Whatever Podcast - Pregnancy WORSE Than War？! 300+ Body Count？! $1,000,000 To Date Her？! Andrew W! ｜ Dating Talk #243

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00:04:12.400 of other stuff. And if you're my Caucasian, you will join the Discord. This is from... Was 0.97

00:04:20.980 this... No, this is from... Andrew was on one of these previous ones. We've put... There's

00:04:26.600 a bunch of behind the scenes featuring Andrew. He always, for some reason, Andrew Wilson

00:04:30.420 here, my Caucasian, always gets into trouble whenever he's here in the studio. So I don't

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00:04:48.740 behind the scenes, so like all the crazy happening... I tell Brian if it happens again, I get hazard

00:04:53.300 pay. Yeah, it's true. It's true. And let's see. Oh, disclaimer. The views expressed by the

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00:05:04.620 one person. Chad, I want your input on this. We had somebody running... Not Andrew. Andrew

00:05:09.300 gets a pass. But we had a girl running 30 minutes late. And she came all the way from 1.00

00:05:16.060 L.A. And I had to turn her away. Chad, do you think that's fair? Do you think that's

00:05:21.180 fair? If you're going to be 30 minutes late to something, better luck next time. You know,

00:05:26.040 you got to show up on time. If you... You know, we give a little leeway if you're 5, 10, maybe

00:05:30.040 even 15 minutes late. We'll accommodate it. But 30 minutes late, that's crazy. And she blew 1.00

00:05:34.200 up. She got mad at me because she was 30 minutes late. Let me know what you think.

00:05:38.140 If I should have accommodated or it's just like, hey, you're going to be 30 minutes late

00:05:41.380 to a production? It is what it is. Anyways, with that said, without further ado, we're going

00:05:44.980 to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, occupation,

00:05:49.400 where you're from, and education. Go ahead.

00:05:51.000 Hello, I'm Shannon. You can find me online at Shannon, S-H-A-N-N-O-N-D-A-V-I World, W-O-R-L-D.

00:06:04.120 Thank you for the shameless plug. How old are you?

00:06:07.960 I'm 29. I live in Los Angeles, and I have four small businesses. I'm mainly a content creator,

00:06:17.960 and I run a marketing agency, and dabble in a few other things, pet sitting, stuff like

00:06:25.100 that.

00:06:25.500 Any education?

00:06:26.840 Yes, I am college educated. I have my bachelor's.

00:06:31.020 In what?

00:06:32.180 Comedy, writing, and performance.

00:06:34.480 They, what?

00:06:36.800 I think we talked about this last time. Yeah, that's a thing at Columbia College, Chicago.

00:06:43.020 That's where I went to school.

00:06:43.840 Like, is it the same branch of that school in New York, Columbia?

00:06:47.820 No, this one's in Chicago.

00:06:48.640 It's like a separate.

00:06:49.920 It's not associated or affiliated with Columbia University.

00:06:53.220 No, separate.

00:06:53.880 Sorry, the degree is comedy writing, is it?

00:06:56.380 And performance.

00:06:58.040 And performance. Okay. And it's a bachelor of art?

00:07:02.200 Yeah.

00:07:02.380 Or, okay. And that's, do you have a other, a minor or anything?

00:07:05.720 Did you think that was maybe a bachelor of science?

00:07:08.900 They could offer, maybe.

00:07:10.560 I was minoring in, like, communications and PR, but I didn't end up following through

00:07:16.760 on that.

00:07:17.300 Wait, you used to work at NPR?

00:07:19.100 No, no, no. I was getting a minor in communications slash PR.

00:07:23.920 Oh, PR.

00:07:24.800 Yeah, actually, I started there as a musical theater major, and then I switched to comedy

00:07:29.160 writing and performance.

00:07:30.240 And it's a university in Chicago, you said?

00:07:32.960 Yeah.

00:07:33.280 Okay, got it. All right, what about you?

00:07:35.040 Hey, y'all. I'm Guidance. I'm 37 years old. I'm from Louisiana originally, but I moved

00:07:41.840 to California to be a professional chef. So I have a soul food restaurant here in Santa

00:07:47.840 Barbara. I do a little TV and content creating, stuff like that. I'm also a pastor, so I have

00:07:54.320 a pretty forward-thinking church here locally. And I'm currently getting my degree in culinary

00:08:02.020 arts and marine biology here in Santa Barbara.

00:08:05.360 All right. And, sorry, did you say your age? I might have missed that.

00:08:08.780 37.

00:08:09.480 37. Got it. And so you're from where originally?

00:08:12.020 I'm from northeast Louisiana originally.

00:08:13.780 Louisiana. Okay.

00:08:14.960 That's right.

00:08:15.400 All right, nice. And you are, do you already have a bachelor's degree or you're working

00:08:20.580 on it currently?

00:08:21.420 Working on it, yeah.

00:08:22.160 Working on it. Okay, got it. All right. And you said you're a chef?

00:08:27.480 That's right, yeah.

00:08:27.920 A chef?

00:08:28.180 I'm a food chef.

00:08:28.780 You should have brought us some Cajun food.

00:08:30.680 My restaurant is right down the street.

00:08:32.520 Okay.

00:08:34.320 And you said you're a pastor?

00:08:39.000 That's right.

00:08:39.500 Okay, we'll come back to that after the introductions. We'll explore that. What about you?

00:08:43.940 Hi, I'm Natalie Stavola. I'm 37 from Los Angeles, and I am a career and dating coach for men.

00:08:49.120 Okay. And age? Oh, sorry, you said 37. I meant to say education.

00:08:54.420 Sure. Florida State University, bachelor's in psychology with a minor in propaganda and media.

00:09:00.040 Minor in propaganda and media. And it's a BA, right?

00:09:03.800 I actually did. It's a BS, but when I graduated right before, they offered me the BA because I did

00:09:12.260 take a lot of just random philosophy. Sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

00:09:17.260 Sure. So they offered and they said, do you want a BA or a BS because you have enough credits to have

00:09:23.280 the BA? And I told them, I was like, I can't say I have a BS degree from FSU. Just put BA.

00:09:28.640 Okay. Got it. Got it.

00:09:30.080 So both.

00:09:31.060 And so you're from Florida originally or?

00:09:34.060 Originally from Connecticut.

00:09:35.180 Connecticut.

00:09:35.380 Lived in Florida for a long time and then moved out to LA about 11 years ago.

00:09:38.740 Got it. And you said there was a minor in propaganda. So what?

00:09:41.720 Media, communications. I was double major criminology and psychology for a while and then

00:09:45.860 switched over to psychology and communications. I just focused more on PR propaganda.

00:09:50.680 So that was my focus. But psychology.

00:09:52.760 Got it. Does propaganda have a negative connotation though?

00:09:54.880 It does. That's why they rebranded a PR.

00:09:56.760 Okay.

00:09:58.480 Absolutely. Right?

00:10:00.120 Checks out. All right. What about you?

00:10:02.520 Sure. My name's Joey, aka the Filipina Latina. I'm a cosplayer and a streamer. I also am an

00:10:09.620 accountant during the day. So we wear many hats. I'm 38 years old.

00:10:14.320 38. And where are you from?

00:10:17.860 Currently I'm living in Vegas. I moved around a lot. Navy brat.

00:10:20.360 Navy brat. Okay. Gotcha. And any education, any degrees or anything like that? 0.80

00:10:25.600 I have a certificate, but I never got to fulfill my college career yet.

00:10:30.920 Got it. Okay. And you said you do cosplay. Cosplay?

00:10:34.660 Cosplay. What's cosplay?

00:10:36.400 Cosplay. I don't know.

00:10:37.120 It's costume play. So we call it cosplay.

00:10:39.480 And you don't have like OF or anything like that?

00:10:42.000 Not anymore.

00:10:42.980 Okay. You used to though?

00:10:44.020 Yes.

00:10:44.440 Got it. Okay. And how long have you not been doing OF?

00:10:48.820 OF? OF specifically, that platform, it's been, I don't know, probably over a year. I was doing

00:10:54.240 some like exclusive content on a different site, but it was really more just like more

00:10:58.760 risque pictures. Nothing. You know, it gave me an opportunity to talk to people on a more

00:11:04.000 one-on-one level. So people that follow me.

00:11:07.100 Gotcha.

00:11:07.320 Gotcha. So you deleted it or is it still active?

00:11:09.760 It's probably, it's, it's not active. It's there, but it's not active.

00:11:13.280 Okay. Gotcha. And Shannon, did you, you used to do OF too?

00:11:16.880 Yeah. I did OF for two years.

00:11:19.500 Got it. Okay. And you were like top percent or something?

00:11:22.520 Yeah. I was at one point in the top 1%.

00:11:24.400 Top 1%. Okay.

00:11:25.880 Same.

00:11:26.460 But you stopped.

00:11:27.420 Really?

00:11:27.780 Yeah.

00:11:28.160 Wow.

00:11:28.540 You're done though. You stopped.

00:11:29.440 Yeah. It's been like almost two years.

00:11:31.440 Yes. Okay. And have any other involvement in anything else like dancing, like stripping?

00:11:37.840 Oh, no.

00:11:38.420 No. That's the only sex work.

00:11:40.700 Yeah.

00:11:40.880 The OF stuff. Okay. What about you?

00:11:42.940 Did you say same?

00:11:44.440 Yeah. I used to do burlesque. I did OF for a little while back in Arkansas. So yeah.

00:11:49.980 Arkansas.

00:11:50.860 Nice.

00:11:51.660 You were in the top 1% too?

00:11:53.420 Yeah. Yeah. Make a lot of cannabis content and adults.

00:11:56.880 Wait, you combined cannabis content with burlesque?

00:12:00.360 With burlesque, with my spirituality. Cannabis is a big part of me. So even my church is centered

00:12:05.180 around cannabis.

00:12:06.520 What the hell is burlesque?

00:12:08.440 Burlesque? 0.93

00:12:09.180 It's like a fancy word for, it's like a fancier stripping kind of.

00:12:14.560 Kind of vintage stripping.

00:12:16.480 Yeah.

00:12:16.960 Like Dita Von Tees.

00:12:19.080 Vintage stripping. 0.97

00:12:20.000 Who the hell is that? 0.96

00:12:21.940 Oh, no. That's unfortunate. 0.97

00:12:25.440 I know. I know. My degeneracy skills are not up to snuff. Who is?

00:12:29.860 She's like a famous burlesque dancer. Like the most. 1.00

00:12:33.540 I feel like this is a circle. I'm like, what is this dancing? And you're like, this chick 0.98

00:12:36.760 is, well, who's that? The chick who did that type of dancing? 1.00

00:12:38.720 Oh, yeah.

00:12:39.180 So it's like.

00:12:39.620 I will say burlesque dancers consider it more of an art form.

00:12:42.860 They're not just twerking on stage.

00:12:44.320 Right.

00:12:44.940 It's a performance.

00:12:45.680 Eventually it gets there.

00:12:46.680 Eventually it gets there.

00:12:47.680 It's less. It's like, yeah, it's a stage, right? Whereas I guess like at a strip club, like

00:12:52.960 the burlesque dancers, they don't do like private rooms. 0.99

00:12:55.680 They're not doing backstage stuff.

00:12:57.120 No, no. There's no stripping. Usually. I mean, you can.

00:12:59.920 It's like a stage.

00:13:01.240 Yeah.

00:13:01.440 It's more about art. 1.00

00:13:02.100 They do that shit at a theater. There's a strip club, right? It's like. 1.00

00:13:05.300 I'm offering a $500 reward for a comprehensive degeneracy cheat sheet. I'm not ever caught

00:13:11.140 not knowing what these terms mean again. Okay. We're off to a great start. Yeah. And so.

00:13:19.640 Someone's going to take that seriously. Watch. Yeah. And then what was like the nature of

00:13:23.540 your OF? Were you doing solo content? Was it a boy, girl content? Solo girl, girl, sometimes

00:13:29.880 mostly revolving around cannabis. Yeah. So you guys would be like, like making out and

00:13:37.460 there's cannabis in the background? No, we're usually smoking a J. Like, is there like a

00:13:41.340 bag of like cannabis on your head or something? No. Like the, like footlong bongs and blunts

00:13:47.680 and beautiful. Okay. Okay. I'm honestly, I'm a little surprised to hear that because I didn't

00:13:52.700 think that they allowed smoking on there. You have to be very creative with cannabis content

00:13:59.540 in general, but especially when you have like OF platforms like you were saying. Yeah.

00:14:04.200 I mean, that would be, we're just one step too far to let pot. Right? How dare you?

00:14:09.640 Just that if you're really crossing the threshold there. I like that. That's what I do. Cross thresholds.

00:14:14.500 What about you? Hi, my name's Gabby. I'm 18. I'm from Michigan. I currently work at a hostess,

00:14:20.740 as a hostess at a steakhouse and I completed high school and did some college. Okay. And, uh,

00:14:27.780 you did some college. What, what were you studying or? I just did art education. So it was mainly art

00:14:33.600 focused classes like drawing, studio art. Um, I had an English class as well in another class,

00:14:39.400 but I forgot what class that was. All right. What about you? Hi, my name's Wen Yu. I'm from China.

00:14:45.080 I'm 29 years old and currently a visiting PhD student at the UCSB in linguistics. All right. And, uh,

00:14:53.880 uh, how far, do you, do you have your master's? Yeah. Okay. From China. Gotcha. And, uh, how close

00:14:59.980 are you to, uh, getting your PhD? Have you done your dissertation or working on it? Working on it.

00:15:05.920 Working on it. Okay. And you're, you got another one year, two years? Um, hopefully one or two years.

00:15:13.460 And, uh, but you said you started working on your dissertation. Does that have a title?

00:15:18.380 Not yet. Not yet. Um, and you said you're studying linguistics. Yes. Uh, can you tell us a bit more?

00:15:25.660 Is there a specific thing you're working on with that or? Yeah. I focus on like interactive forms

00:15:31.640 such as interjections and discourse markers in Mandarin, like well or oh, like if I give English

00:15:39.160 examples. Yeah. Like little items like that. Give us an example in Mandarin.

00:15:44.180 Um, for example, uh, uh, would be like a filler. Yeah. Oh, okay. Got it. Yeah. Okay. All right.

00:15:55.860 And, uh, where, where are you from specifically in China? From Shandong province. It's like five

00:16:01.300 hours drive from Beijing. From Beijing. Got it. Okay. North. Got it. Cool. What about you?

00:16:07.340 My name is Felicity. I'm 19 from Santa Barbara. I'm a full-time student majoring in business.

00:16:14.180 All right. Welcome Andrew. What about you? Yeah. I'm Andrew Wilson, the host of the crucible.

00:16:19.080 I'm a political analyst, a political satirist, uh, engaging debates and conversations all over

00:16:24.060 the world. I'm happy to be with all of you here tonight. All right. Welcome everybody. We're

00:16:27.660 going to go around the table once more. So what's everybody's current relationship status?

00:16:31.680 If you're single, how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been

00:16:35.860 in? Go ahead. All right. Well, I'm in a relationship and I, my longest relationship was

00:16:44.580 around two years. I've been in this current relationship for a year and a month.

00:16:53.760 All right. One year, about one year. Uh, how did you guys meet? We met on Bumble.

00:16:59.880 Oh, what was your opening message? I don't remember. We were actually, I know our first

00:17:06.280 conversation was talking about Easter and that he was with his family and I was a little confused

00:17:13.260 because on his profile, part of the reason I matched with him was because it said he was

00:17:18.040 Jewish. So I was like Easter, but I guess his family is half. So they celebrate both, uh,

00:17:25.100 holidays, Passover and Easter. And so we chatted a little bit about that. You were looking specifically

00:17:31.540 for someone who's Jewish? Yeah. Is it because you're Jewish? I'm Jewish. Yeah. All right. And

00:17:36.880 the two-year relationship who broke up with who? Um, it was kind of mutual, I would say.

00:17:43.280 Mutual. Yeah. Okay. All right. What about you? Oh boy. Um, recently engaged, like in the last week,

00:17:51.680 um, have a wonderful fiance. Um, before this, uh, was married to a man twice. So two different

00:17:59.040 marriages, both to the same guy, different guys, different guys. Okay. Yep. Then I've been married

00:18:03.780 to one other, uh, woman. And so I've got, um, I would consider myself a lesbian, but you know,

00:18:10.120 at times I've been kind of bi. Um, I'm also right now monogamous, but prior to this engagement,

00:18:16.860 I've lived a polyamorous lifestyle. Um, I preach that openly at my church. So, um, longest relationship

00:18:23.960 would probably be to my ex-husband. We were together like 12 and a half years, something

00:18:29.160 like that. Uh, let me just get a bit of clarification. So you were married twice, right? Um, in terms

00:18:36.040 of chronological timeline, you were married to a woman also, correct? So is that three marriages

00:18:41.160 total? Uh, yes. That's right. And then in terms of chronological timeline, can you just tell

00:18:45.660 us like, was it, was it the man, the man, the woman, or like, what was the order, I guess?

00:18:49.820 Funny. Uh, yeah. So man, man, then woman, woman, and now again, almost yeah. Woman again. So 0.99

00:18:57.160 wait, so you've been married three times. Oh, but then you were in a relationship with another woman

00:19:01.700 and now you're currently engaged to a woman. That's the same woman. So

00:19:05.360 okay. I see. And then this fourth one to my current fiance. And you're engaged and she's a woman. 0.76

00:19:11.020 She's a woman. Gotcha. Gotcha. Um, and then also, uh, you said you're polyamorous. I'm more

00:19:18.780 monogamous now recently. Um, uh, you know, it's a struggle. I'll be honest. You know, she knows

00:19:25.280 I'm honest about it. Um, monogamy is a struggle for me. Um, even being very religious and being

00:19:31.180 a pastor, um, I have different views than most on relationships and monogamy, but I'm doing

00:19:37.420 it. Couple, couple further clarifying questions. Um, the length of your marriages, uh, the first

00:19:43.020 marriage, how long was your first marriage? Like three years. And was it monogamous or open?

00:19:47.480 Uh, monogamous. That was, yeah. Okay. Uh, your second marriage, uh, how long did that one last?

00:19:51.940 That one was longer. Um, we were both very deep into church. I was a deaconess. He was a deacon.

00:19:57.580 We were in like a traveling gospel band. That marriage and relationship was, uh, 12 years. It was

00:20:03.840 mostly monogamous until right up at the end. Um, when we opened my, our marriage up because I came

00:20:09.700 out. So, Oh, okay. And you said towards the end and it was a 12, you were married. So what'd you say

00:20:14.580 in like, was it year 10, year 11, year 10, my ex-wife right there at the end. Oh, okay. All right.

00:20:24.120 Man, this is, there's a lot of lore here. Um, okay. So, and then, uh, how long, excuse me,

00:20:32.560 how long was your third marriage? That one? Oh goodness. Seven years. Seven years. Yeah. And

00:20:37.640 how old were you when you first got married? Um, oh goodness. Uh, 1920. Yeah. 1920. Okay. And then

00:20:45.780 the guy who you married, how long had you been dating him prior to the marriage at 1920? Three

00:20:50.480 years. Okay. So you guys were like high school sweethearts then? No, he was 13 years older than me

00:20:55.860 or still is. Um, so. Wait, and you met when you were held? Um, that one, I was 26, around

00:21:02.920 26 or so. Wait, I thought you, wait, but I thought you met him when you were, uh, 19.

00:21:08.060 That was my first. There's a lot to take in here. I know. I'm trying to keep up.

00:21:13.480 That's right. That's right. So, okay. Wait. So you, the first one, your first marriage was

00:21:18.400 at 19. 19, two or three years. Okay. But you had been dating him like maybe like how soon

00:21:24.860 after meeting him did you get married? Okay. So I grew up as a Jehovah's witness. I didn't 0.99

00:21:30.440 really date or do any kind of interacting until I was 19. Met him online. This was back

00:21:36.720 when like Yahoo Messenger and AOL Messenger was still a thing. Okay. I think we chatted on

00:21:42.160 that platform for about a month or two before he met me in person. And then we had like a

00:21:48.760 three year relationship. Okay. Got it. Okay. I'm not celebrating Christmas. Um, yeah. I

00:21:56.720 was like, Oh yeah, he celebrates Christmas and birthday. So I'll give this a shot. I had

00:21:59.720 never done that before until I was in my twenties and never celebrated my birthday or anything.

00:22:04.180 Yeah. And so you've pretty much been, it sounds like there weren't really long periods of being

00:22:10.000 single. No, you were married, married, married, married pretty much. Uh, I mean, what was the

00:22:15.280 longest break from my, I guess the age of 18 to now at 37, uh, like of actually being

00:22:21.180 single, I guess, or not married, I suppose. Um, a couple of months. I mean, so little that

00:22:26.760 I really couldn't even date when I was single. Like I couldn't tell you at what chronological

00:22:31.640 point I was actually saying, well, I've always been active. Got it. And, uh, I'm trying to

00:22:39.280 parse all this information that's coming at me. It's a lot. I should have went last.

00:22:43.240 No, it's good. It's good. And, uh, you said you were a Jehovah's witness. Uh, are you still

00:22:49.760 like, what's your denominator? You're Christian, right? Um, Christian, uh, slash a little Shinto, 0.99

00:22:54.800 a little Buddhism. My church kind of incorporates spirituality from a lot of different religions.

00:23:00.180 Um, especially like nature based, a little bit of Christianity, but you know, it's mostly

00:23:05.600 love that neighbor, love the earth and love yourself. That's a church of spiritualism.

00:23:10.340 Yeah, pretty much. It's called the water. So very, very nature. Well, we'll come, come

00:23:13.940 back to that. I'm sure Andrew has a couple of questions on that one, but we'll get everybody's

00:23:18.240 relationship status. So, okay. Uh, and your longest relationship you said was 13 years, 13, 12

00:23:24.860 years. Okay. Currently. And how long have you been seeing your current partner? So we met

00:23:29.920 on new year's day this year, got engaged, uh, on Valentine's day this year. Um, that's

00:23:35.960 when I asked her to marry me and then she turned around and asked me to marry her like a week 1.00

00:23:40.400 ago. So double. Okay. So you guys been together for about five, six months, six months. All

00:23:45.500 right. That engaged very. And you, you proposed in six weeks. She was also, so like with you

00:23:52.160 with the Jewish thing, I really thought that was interesting. Cause like for me and her, she

00:23:56.240 had also shared a Jehovah's witness past for almost the same amount of time as me. And

00:24:00.760 that was like very connecting for us, uh, for her to understand that part of my history

00:24:06.140 and vice versa. So we connected really fast. Okay. All right. Uh, and you said, uh, you

00:24:15.580 were a deaconess. Yeah. Was that when you, was that under Jehovah's witness? No, that's

00:24:21.080 Baptist. So that 12 year marriage. So what's the transition from, you start as Jehovah's 1.00

00:24:26.220 witness, correct. And then you became Baptist and now, and then was there, were you a Presbyterian

00:24:33.120 or what was the transition to where you're at now currently? I would honestly say atheism.

00:24:39.160 I went from a very strict, uh, religious, you know, lifestyle for the majority of my life.

00:24:45.960 Um, I, you can't really leave being a Jehovah's witness once you commit. Um, so like the shunning. 1.00

00:24:51.500 Yeah. So I got shunned or disfellowshipped as they called it. Uh, can't talk to my family

00:24:56.220 or friends or anything, mom, you know, all that. So still like you, you're not in touch

00:25:00.840 with your, not really. No, my mom passed. So I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah. Uh, what about

00:25:05.340 like other family that's still Jehovah's witness? Have you, no, no. When's the last time you spoke

00:25:09.440 to them? Years. Um, I was raised by a white family for 10 years also. Were you adopted or what?

00:25:15.920 She basically, I mean, she was also a Jehovah's witness. My mom was going through a really hard

00:25:20.520 mental time. And so she came in, you know, changed my life. They really did. Um, she's

00:25:25.800 also a witness, so can't really talk to her. So left that or got kicked out of that, went

00:25:31.920 into the Baptist religion. When I met my ex-husband, he was already really deep in the church.

00:25:37.160 So that just really took off. You ever miss dating guys or are you kind of over it? Um, yes

00:25:45.320 and no, I mean, it, we've only been together, me and my fiance six months. So before that

00:25:50.140 I had dated a guy or two, you have to be really special to slip through that gate for me, so

00:25:54.400 to speak. Um, so I don't really miss it, but you know, yeah. And then final question here,

00:26:00.160 you said you've, uh, you're, you've had periods of polyamory. Yeah. Uh, so I guess, uh, what,

00:26:07.980 when was that? Very recently. I mean, it's, it's a more recent thing. Okay. And then you

00:26:12.980 were, uh, what's the most amount of people you've dated at one time? What do you consider

00:26:19.320 dating? Just like hooking up with all the way to like a relationship? Did you have poly

00:26:26.380 partners where you're like, you have multiple. Yeah, there were definitely some polycules.

00:26:31.120 There was multiple polycules. Okay. Yeah. What tell us about the polycules? Oh goodness. Well,

00:26:37.580 I mean, for me, I would probably say four at the, it was like the max of me dating at the same time,

00:26:43.640 those four people, but then especially back in the South and being in the LGBTQIA community,

00:26:50.260 there's not a lot of us. So like those same four probably dated the same four who dated. Yeah.

00:26:56.140 Okay. And what, what was the break, uh, the gender breakdown for the polycule? Was it?

00:27:01.940 Honestly, it was mostly girls and those girls' boyfriends. I'm not sure why those girls'

00:27:07.280 boyfriends seem to have a thing. But you were just dealing with the, the,

00:27:10.320 it was a group of four girls or was there one guy?

00:27:12.600 Separate girls. Okay. Four different girls and. I see. Okay. Got it. Wait, and they had boyfriends?

00:27:18.960 Most of them did. But would you be like dealing with the boyfriends too? Yep. Yep.

00:27:24.080 So you were the unicorn? I guess so. Yeah. For the four, the what? Oh, the unicorn.

00:27:32.660 The magical creature. It's like if a boyfriend and girlfriend are looking for a threesome,

00:27:36.960 the, the third person, the third party is the, is the unicorn. Okay.

00:27:44.700 Are unicorns referenced in the Bible at all or no? No. Okay. So I haven't read that.

00:27:50.020 Cause I just, I don't know if they're like co-opting unicorn or something. Anyways, um,

00:27:53.200 there's so much, we'll come back to some of that stuff. No, it's great. No need to apologize.

00:27:59.340 I was just asking you some clarifying questions, but what about you? Go ahead. Okay.

00:28:03.280 What was the questions again? Yeah. How do you follow that?

00:28:09.040 But I'm having a field day as a dating coach and my mind is like, okay. Um, yes.

00:28:14.000 Can I have you just tilt your mic down slightly? Perfect. There we go. So it's, uh,

00:28:18.080 what's your current relationship status? How long have you been single? If you're single,

00:28:21.660 single for about a year, longest relationship, five years, longest relationship, five years,

00:28:26.900 who broke up with who in the five-year relationship? I broke up with him on the five

00:28:30.140 year. And was the five-year relationship, the one that ended a year ago? No, that one was, uh,

00:28:34.780 like three years, three years. Who broke up with who in that one? I think he broke up with me.

00:28:42.000 That one was kind of mutual. Okay. Or mutual. Sure. I'm sure he broke up with me on that one. I can't

00:28:47.540 remember. Got it. Okay. What about you? Uh, longest relationship. I was married for 13 years. Um,

00:28:54.240 I'm currently single. And the last time I dated someone was probably six months ago.

00:29:00.320 Six months ago. All right. The marriage, uh, who broke up with who? I ended that. You ended it.

00:29:07.720 So you filed for divorce? Yes, I did. Only marriage? Only marriage. Only marriage. Okay. Uh,

00:29:12.900 what? Um, I don't want to go into too much detail, but there was, um, these terms. What's

00:29:18.860 only marriage? Wait, what? Only marriage. Wait, what did I say? Oh, I meant if it was

00:29:24.220 her only marriage. Oh, her only marriage. I was like, does that mean two OnlyFans people 0.88

00:29:27.980 are married? Like, what does that mean? He's learning a lot today. Only marriage.

00:29:32.020 No, just if it was, uh, if she had been married. Okay. Uh, no, it was my only marriage. Uh,

00:29:37.340 there was DV involved. So yeah. Got it. Okay. And, uh, did that, and if you don't want to

00:29:43.500 talk about this, totally fine. Was that something that was always present in the relationship or

00:29:47.260 manifested later on? I think those are things that kind of happen. It's like a cycle on and

00:29:52.340 off. So it was always present. Not a lot in the beginning. Eventually. Yeah. Got worse. Got it.

00:29:56.680 Okay. And you said you've been single for six months. Was that when the marriage ended or is

00:30:01.340 that a different relationship? I've been divorced about five years. Five years. Got it. Um,

00:30:05.280 the last person that I considered seriously dating was when we ended, it was about six months ago.

00:30:10.080 And how long were you seeing him? I want to say maybe eight or nine months. All right. It was a

00:30:15.320 long distance relationship. So it was different for me. Very different. Who broke up with who?

00:30:19.160 I want to say it was mutual, but honestly, I'd say he did. Yeah. All right. Got it. What about you?

00:30:26.960 Um, my longest relationship was a year. I'm currently single. I've been single for like

00:30:32.620 two, three months maybe. Um, and then I had a relationship not too long ago. So,

00:30:38.860 oh, sorry. Got it. Uh, the one year relationship who broke up with who? Um, I broke up with her

00:30:47.320 because we were having issues from previous circumstances and things that happened.

00:30:54.380 Okay. Uh, and actually I think it might be worthwhile to go around the table on this.

00:30:58.740 Uh, what's your orientation? Are you bisexual? I'm bisexual. Bi? Okay. Yeah. Have you, uh,

00:31:03.860 your most recent relationship? It was with a guy. It was with a guy, but the longest was with a

00:31:08.840 woman. Is that correct? Okay. Uh, got it. Okay. So bisexual. I think, oh gosh, I don't know. I would 1.00

00:31:18.140 consider myself straight. I've only dated men, but I've definitely experimented with women. So not

00:31:23.440 dating specifically for a relationship. Got it. What about you? Same straight experimentation,

00:31:29.560 but straight. Okay. Uh, by. Lesbo. No, I'm kidding. 99.9% of the time. Yeah. All right. What about you?

00:31:39.080 Bye. Okay. Bye. Um, and then your relationship status? Uh, I'm single. Single? I've been single for

00:31:46.020 two years and a half. Uh, my longest relationship was like three years and a half. It was like with

00:31:52.960 my high school classmate. And then I went to Germany as an exchange student. It was long

00:31:58.080 distance relationship. And I felt like I broke up with him. Got it. Yeah. Okay. And the three-year

00:32:05.440 relationship, you said it was in, it was in high school? From high school. You knew him from high

00:32:10.780 school, but it was when you were a bit older or? Uh, it was like from the third year of high school.

00:32:15.800 Okay. And until the third year of my bachelor. So you were, uh, like 17, 18 when you met him?

00:32:22.380 Uh, I knew him. And then you dated him until like 20, 21? Uh, I started dating him when I was like

00:32:27.240 17, but I knew him from maybe earlier when I was even 13 or 14. Okay. Got it. And then you said,

00:32:34.740 is that your only relationship you've had? No. You've had others? Yeah. How long were you in Germany

00:32:39.260 for? Um, one year at that time. One year. Do you speak German? I do. Uh, can we get a little

00:32:44.720 demonstration of some German? Oh, nice. There you go. Uh, did you, did you date in Germany at all?

00:32:53.060 Yeah. Did you have a boyfriend? She said that like with a German accent. Yeah. Uh, no, it's good. 1.00

00:32:59.340 Uh, you didn't, uh, how long were you dating the guy in Germany? Um, actually I went to Germany twice

00:33:06.320 and I had different experiences like in, like once in Cologne and once in, uh, Eastern Germany,

00:33:12.560 like, but none of them was with German guys. So like. It was, uh, other like Chinese international

00:33:19.360 students or? One time with a Chinese international student, one time with an Indian guy. Got it. Okay.

00:33:25.860 Uh, did you date, like maybe even go on a singular date with a, like a German guy though?

00:33:33.020 Hmm. I think he was born in Brazil, but he immigrated to Germany. And have you, besides

00:33:41.200 Germany, have you lived anywhere else for an extended period of time? Not really. So

00:33:45.840 China, Germany for like the year, you said it was a year? Uh, like, uh, two years in total

00:33:50.580 because I went twice. You went twice. Okay. And then you've been, you've been in the U.S.

00:33:54.720 for how long? Uh, I came here last September last year. Okay. So you've been here for, uh,

00:34:00.020 what, nine months, nine months, more or less, 10 months. Yeah. Do you speak German or English

00:34:05.800 better? English better. Yeah. And, uh, you speak three languages or do you speak more? Um,

00:34:12.300 I have learned more than eight languages, but I, I'm only fluent in English, German and Chinese.

00:34:18.900 Got it. Okay. All right. Got it. Okay. So you're, you've been single for two and a half years.

00:34:25.120 Have you done any dating here in the United States? Not yet. Nothing? No. And no,

00:34:30.900 any dating apps or anything like that? No, I actually don't know what to do. And also like,

00:34:35.900 like rationally, yeah, I think I shouldn't date here because I'm, I need to go back to China next 0.98

00:34:42.780 year. Like I don't see the like relationship going anywhere. And I was heartbroken in my last

00:34:50.720 relationship and it took me, I think more than two years to almost recover. So you said you've

00:34:58.580 been single for two and a half years. Uh, was that, uh, what was the length of the relationship

00:35:03.300 from two and a half years ago? It was actually less than one year, but it was devastating.

00:35:09.240 Devastating. And that was in China, that was in China? In China. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. All right. 0.89

00:35:14.320 Uh, cool. Felicity. What about you? I'm in a relationship. It's the longest relationship

00:35:19.980 going on two years. All right. Andrew Wilson. What about you? As possibly the only actual

00:35:26.900 heterosexual here at the table. Been married. What the fuck? How are you going to throw me 1.00

00:35:35.240 under the bus like that? Possibly the only heterosexual. It's possible. And as Andrew as the possibly

00:35:42.240 the only, the only one has never experimented with a member of the same sex. Um, Hey, I

00:35:47.060 saw your stream with Jake earlier. You got a little, you guys got a little cozy. I'm just,

00:35:54.280 you know, yeah, it's never too late. Yeah. So, uh, I'm happily married and have been for

00:36:00.080 a long, long time. All right. Rock and roll, rock and roll. And then, uh, Oh, orientation

00:36:05.520 straight, straight. Okay. And then Felicity straight by Andrew gay. 0.83

00:36:12.240 Are you a gay man? Um, we have some chats here. We got to get to, and then we'll get 0.95

00:36:17.400 to some. I'm a lesbian. Andrew, Andrew's a lesbian. He's actually a black lesbian. Okay.

00:36:24.260 If it doesn't work out with your, do you have a type by the way? Uh, woman. No, I actually

00:36:29.520 like white girl. Do you like white women? I do prefer white women. You prefer, is your 1.00

00:36:33.220 current fiance? She's a, she's a, she's a, got it. Italian and Latina mixed. Okay. There you go.

00:36:39.060 Spicy. Yeah. All right. FYI. Uh, Oh, he bought something on our, uh, merch, merch store. Pull

00:36:45.920 up the, yeah. Shop.whatever.com. It doesn't tell us what it is, but I'm assuming given the

00:36:50.120 price, it was a, Oh, plus a donation there too. Thank you, man. I think he bought, he

00:36:54.620 must've bought a hoodie. I probably bought a big labia matter hoodie. Thank you, man.

00:36:58.820 Appreciate it. Uh, there's, well, we have a lot of bisexual women here. I'm just curious. 0.95

00:37:02.900 Do you guys have a preference? Like, do you prefer innies or outies, Andrews?

00:37:10.260 Do you want us to go in order to answer that? Yeah. If you're bisexual, do you have a preference 0.89

00:37:15.140 for innies or outies? I prefer my partner. So, and he has. That's a great answer. Okay. 0.99

00:37:19.900 That's a man. He doesn't have anything. Same. Cause I'm sure mine's watching, but that's

00:37:22.840 also an honest answer. But I, I like my ladies thick. So. Oh, okay. You like. I love that

00:37:27.880 shirt. It's yeah. That you found on the hoodie. Okay. Yes. I have no preference. She doesn't

00:37:35.980 care. All right. Um, Andrew, do you think this is appropriate to pull up? Um, I mean,

00:37:46.580 probably I would still do it, but probably, probably yes. No, it's probably not. Um, chef

00:37:53.340 dill pickles. Here's what we're going to do. We got a, uh, it's probably a, I want to be

00:37:57.120 respectful to the panelists here. If you send in a $10, I'll treat it as a, uh, I'll

00:38:01.760 treat it as like a TTS and we'll read it. You're going to have to send in something

00:38:05.560 more appropriate. That's the chef dill pickles. Uh, it's, uh, he's being slightly

00:38:11.780 racist. So I can't pull it up. Uh, can't pull it up guys. Uh, and by the way, keep the

00:38:17.320 discipline good in the YouTube chat as well. Moderators keep, keep the discipline. Uh,

00:38:23.640 yeah, JJ mad. I'm not pulling up your super chat. Keep the discipline good guys.

00:38:27.100 We're not going to pull up, uh, like anything race related or anything like

00:38:31.640 that. So, uh, yeah, really quick coastal operator. It's below the threshold, but I

00:38:37.140 want to respond to that. If you've got the hookup for the white jazz cups, do you

00:38:41.880 have the 16 ounces? Cause I need to get my hands on some. Cause I, I contacted the,

00:38:46.920 the, uh, what's it called? The supplier, not the supplier, the group manufacturer

00:38:52.260 directly. They said, yeah, we stopped making them 2022. So coastal operator,

00:38:56.960 can you just bump a DM on Instagram or wherever? Yeah. Just bump a DM on

00:39:02.560 Instagram at whatever. And I would appreciate the hookup guys. If you want to

00:39:06.500 get a message in a hundred dollar read TTS is 200. And then you can also support us

00:39:11.720 Venmo cash app, whatever pod. And then let me see what else there is. Like the video

00:39:17.620 if you're enjoying the stream so far. Thank you guys. Okay. Uh, let's see,

00:39:22.920 where do we begin? Andrew, I think would be interested in, uh, exploring the whole

00:39:29.200 pastor thing with you. Um, although it sounds like you're not strictly Christian.

00:39:34.620 No, with your, with your religion. So you're just a spiritualist, right?

00:39:38.520 Very spiritual. Yes. Yes. Okay.

00:39:40.460 We incorporate many different religions into our practice. Okay. So when are you

00:39:44.240 a universalist? No, I wouldn't really say that because there are some things that

00:39:49.940 really don't align with, um, I would say my teachings are viewpoints, but we don't

00:39:56.040 turn down any viewpoints as long as the religion or spirituality is based in love

00:40:00.620 and respect for the planet we live on and its people. We pretty much align. Okay.

00:40:05.720 Whatever that is. Yeah. Okay. All right. So let's see here. Where do we begin? We're

00:40:13.600 going to start with, uh, Shannon here with your notes, Shannon, you previously stated

00:40:21.160 that you will not date, uh, somebody who makes less than seven figures. Has that

00:40:29.460 changed at all? I said seven figures. Yeah. You said you only date six to seven

00:40:35.520 figure or six, six or seven. Okay. Fair. Figure earning men. And you'd love to discuss

00:40:42.380 your experiences. Sorry. So. Oh, were you laughing? Like, oh, okay. I think she sneezed.

00:40:49.060 Oh, it was a sneeze. Oh, okay. I thought it was like a, it was a laugh. It might've been

00:40:52.700 a laugh. All right. I'm going with laugh. We can talk about it. Um, go ahead. So yeah,

00:41:01.140 we talked about that in our previous show that I was on that I did previously date men who made

00:41:10.080 six or have six to seven figures. However, my current relationship that I'm in, he, it's

00:41:17.640 a little complicated in regards to that. However, I have negotiated for myself that sort of want

00:41:28.180 in a partner because he brings so much else to the table. Like what? Well, we have a lot

00:41:38.580 in common. We have a lot in common. Like I mentioned, we're both Jewish, so we have religion

00:41:45.240 in common. I mean, we're both not super religious, but we do have where we grew up celebrating the

00:41:51.200 same holidays and having similar traditions and stuff like that. But you don't go to temple

00:41:54.180 any of that. We used to go to more of like a reformed sort of temple, but we stopped going

00:42:02.220 because it was outside and it's just kind of gross to, it was like in a park. It was weird.

00:42:09.080 Maybe we'll start going again if they like start doing services inside, but when it's too cold

00:42:14.780 out or too hot, it's weird. Uh, we also are both into comedy. So he's, uh, into comedy writing

00:42:21.160 and performance as well. And yeah, we just have very similar like wants for our future

00:42:28.140 and stuff like that. So what's he making? Um, so he does a few different things as well

00:42:35.600 for income. I don't know his exacts of what he's making. Um, but he has a lot of different

00:42:41.580 investments. So do you make more than he does at the moment? I think I might actually, it depends

00:42:50.880 on the month and what we're doing, but some months I probably do make more, but he, in

00:42:56.920 the grand scheme of things has more resources and things like that. Gotcha. Okay. So you

00:43:04.800 don't know how much your person you're dating makes? Well, he doesn't have like a standard

00:43:11.860 job. He's more like a gig economy type with his work. Like he does video editing and he'll

00:43:19.240 do stuff in the arts for film and stuff like that. Um, but he also just started his own

00:43:25.160 business with my help. Cause I run my own businesses, a few of them. So he's starting

00:43:29.900 a photo booth company. So that's kind of new, but he did have some help from his family and

00:43:36.380 starting that up. So that's where it's a little complicated.

00:43:39.780 And what's the complication?

00:43:41.720 Well, like his specific like income, it's like, he's maybe not making money yet from the actual

00:43:46.320 business, but he has like family income resources, things like that.

00:43:50.280 So you definitely will date outside of a six or seven figure bracket.

00:43:54.400 I mean, it depends on the person. I normally before meeting him would have probably not been

00:44:00.280 that open to it just because of my previous experiences with men who've brought in that

00:44:05.280 type of income and just being kind of comfortable with like upper middle-class life. Uh, but like

00:44:13.640 I was saying, he has so much that he like brings to the table and we really get along and yeah,

00:44:19.540 he's opened me up to, to doing that.

00:44:22.340 Is he older or younger?

00:44:23.520 He's older. He's about 10 years older.

00:44:27.080 Gotcha. Okay.

00:44:29.940 But before him, my past two relationships had, uh, more income coming in from like working

00:44:37.140 and stuff like that.

00:44:39.240 Gotcha. Now, did you do a lot of content creation, right?

00:44:42.860 Yeah. So did you meet this person? Cause they were doing like clips for you or something

00:44:45.700 like that?

00:44:46.460 No, we met on Bumble. Yeah. We went on a dating app.

00:44:50.220 Oh, okay. Gotcha. All right. Well, I guess, um, I don't have the notes here.

00:44:56.880 Hang on.

00:44:59.160 That's yeah.

00:45:00.140 All right. Um, sorry. You have to get up. I'm like, I just couldn't keep that going.

00:45:05.260 Um, has anybody tried the water?

00:45:12.960 Yes. I did a sip.

00:45:14.360 Did it taste weird?

00:45:16.420 Yeah.

00:45:17.160 I don't know. I took one sip.

00:45:18.420 I don't really think.

00:45:19.380 I don't know.

00:45:20.140 Does it taste weird?

00:45:20.880 Like tap.

00:45:21.480 Is it tap?

00:45:22.280 It is tap.

00:45:23.240 Yeah.

00:45:23.460 It tastes like tap.

00:45:24.360 But.

00:45:26.020 Should I be concerned?

00:45:26.960 Do you want to let us know why it would taste weird?

00:45:31.280 No, it's, uh, we just put in fresh water.

00:45:36.000 Oh, okay.

00:45:37.260 But it's running through like this filter.

00:45:39.420 And I think the, like the, it's probably not harmful, but like the, the filter or something

00:45:45.580 is like giving it a weird taste or something.

00:45:49.460 Oh, you think it smells?

00:45:50.660 I think it smells, it tastes fine, but it smells weird.

00:45:54.520 It tastes fine, but it smells like a fishy.

00:45:55.860 Oh, I didn't smell that.

00:45:57.020 Yeah, it smells a little citrusy.

00:45:58.460 Oh, it smells like a fishy.

00:45:59.600 Citrusy?

00:46:00.340 We all smell in different things.

00:46:01.840 Okay.

00:46:02.320 What is going on?

00:46:03.660 This is fishy.

00:46:05.020 There you go.

00:46:05.820 What did I sign up for?

00:46:07.840 Like a fish tank.

00:46:08.920 Did y'all smell fishy?

00:46:09.480 But it, it does smell like a fish tank.

00:46:10.940 Does the water taste, the water taste, the water taste, the water taste.

00:46:13.260 Like an aquarium.

00:46:13.740 Yeah.

00:46:14.120 But it smells.

00:46:15.660 Like an aquarium.

00:46:16.120 No, it does.

00:46:16.600 Oh, it smells fishy.

00:46:17.740 Does it taste like fish?

00:46:18.600 No.

00:46:19.360 No.

00:46:19.540 But that's, that's interesting.

00:46:21.020 It does smell a fishy.

00:46:22.240 I don't even know how that's possible.

00:46:23.900 How is that possible?

00:46:24.920 Can someone Google that?

00:46:26.240 Wait, chat.

00:46:27.240 Okay.

00:46:27.520 Here's, here's what I think it is.

00:46:30.400 Chat, can you help any scientists in the chat help us out?

00:46:34.580 So, I had, this was like one or two months ago, we bought octopus from Costco.

00:46:43.880 Okay.

00:46:44.720 Well, hold on, hold on.

00:46:45.740 And I kept it in the refrigerator for one day and then we used it during the show and

00:46:52.740 then we tossed it.

00:46:54.600 I think, this is my hypothesis, theory, I don't know, whatever.

00:46:59.200 I think somehow, and mind you, the octopus was plastic wrapped.

00:47:05.020 You know, like it's totally wrapped.

00:47:07.000 Yeah.

00:47:07.200 I think somehow the octopus is so powerful, it seeped into, seeped into the air of my refrigerator

00:47:18.720 and somehow it's, it's been, it's not been in there.

00:47:23.280 It was in there for one day and I've cleaned the refrigerator.

00:47:26.100 Minuscule, minuscule particles of octopus have somehow, I don't know, this might not make

00:47:40.020 any sense, but I think we have, like.

00:47:42.860 No, it sounds very scientific.

00:47:44.080 Yeah, this is.

00:47:45.220 I'm enjoying this.

00:47:46.060 But for what other reason would the, it smell like seafood?

00:47:51.220 Well, there's a, like just a possibility that the filter's broken and whatever the chemical

00:47:55.520 compound is smells somewhat close to fish.

00:47:58.620 Oh, the, that could actually explain it.

00:48:02.180 Is that possible?

00:48:03.360 It sounds a lot better than octopus particles.

00:48:05.660 Well, when you open your refrigerator, do you get whiffs?

00:48:09.060 No, no, I don't.

00:48:10.200 No whiffs.

00:48:10.900 I don't smell it at all. 0.99

00:48:11.700 That was just my, like, really stupid low IQ hypothesis of, okay, there was octopus in 0.98

00:48:18.780 there, like, in a day, but it permeated somehow and there's just octopus particles and then 0.99

00:48:27.320 they're getting into.

00:48:29.140 I'm going with his.

00:48:30.120 The filter.

00:48:31.200 Did you rinse the octopus?

00:48:32.480 No, chances are pretty good that there's just like a bad filter and the compounds smell

00:48:36.180 fishy.

00:48:36.820 You think it's a bad filter?

00:48:38.660 Oh, it didn't start to?

00:48:39.560 Yeah, probably a bad filter.

00:48:40.420 Does someone know if, if that's possible to have a filter that can smell like fish?

00:48:45.420 Can, like, clean the chat.

00:48:46.340 I'm looking at what, let me see what the chat says.

00:48:48.400 Yeah.

00:48:48.880 Help, please.

00:48:49.840 This is about to turn into a crazy live.

00:48:53.120 Water filter contains charcoal.

00:48:56.040 Yes.

00:48:56.820 So.

00:48:57.360 Octopus particles.

00:48:59.980 No.

00:49:01.180 Clean your fridge.

00:49:02.200 I cleaned it.

00:49:03.040 The girl from China knows something.

00:49:11.600 What?

00:49:12.720 It is, yo, it is zero water.

00:49:14.740 Evildoer.

00:49:15.300 It is zero water.

00:49:17.720 Hold on.

00:49:18.320 Give me one sec.

00:49:18.820 Guys.

00:49:19.200 I can't be.

00:49:20.080 I know you guys want, want us to talk about like dating and whatever, but I can't be having

00:49:24.760 my guests drinking octopus water.

00:49:27.660 Fish water.

00:49:27.860 I drank the entire thing, Brian.

00:49:29.180 Oh my God.

00:49:30.420 Andrew, you've.

00:49:31.400 No, zero warning whatsoever, Brian.

00:49:33.040 Yeah.

00:49:33.600 I didn't know.

00:49:34.780 I didn't know.

00:49:35.920 Look, but also Andrew.

00:49:37.220 It tastes fine though.

00:49:38.040 It's fine.

00:49:38.340 Andrew.

00:49:38.800 Yeah.

00:49:39.280 Andrew liked the octopus water chat.

00:49:41.160 It's still better than well water.

00:49:42.900 Well, that's true.

00:49:43.540 Yeah. 0.98

00:49:43.760 Well water sucks. 0.95

00:49:44.500 Wait, isn't well water good? 0.99

00:49:46.140 It's good for you.

00:49:47.160 Yeah.

00:49:47.380 But it doesn't taste very good.

00:49:48.660 No.

00:49:49.020 Yeah.

00:49:49.400 No.

00:49:49.620 And I ran all the glasses through the dishwasher with the soap last night.

00:49:55.540 Did you have an octopus in your dishwasher?

00:49:57.780 Is that where it was?

00:49:59.800 Did he have an octopus in the dishwasher?

00:50:02.100 Yeah.

00:50:02.140 I'm just trying to figure it out.

00:50:03.420 No.

00:50:03.820 The dishwasher is brand new too.

00:50:05.960 All right.

00:50:06.300 Like I, it just, a brand new one got put in like two months ago.

00:50:09.620 But how did we get to the octopus in the dishwasher?

00:50:11.760 Like what's the line?

00:50:12.500 Because I figured, he said it was in the, in the refrigerator and then it, but it doesn't

00:50:16.900 smell there.

00:50:17.520 So I'm like, well, maybe he washed the octopus in the dishwasher.

00:50:20.700 I was, yeah.

00:50:21.800 Because the sink. 0.99

00:50:22.380 She's going with the sink. 0.69

00:50:23.160 You know what, Felicity?

00:50:23.900 You should have just not said anything.

00:50:25.520 Oh my God.

00:50:26.560 You should have just, you should have just allowed the octopus water.

00:50:28.140 No, I'm sure someone would have figured that out.

00:50:29.160 People wash their octopus in the dishwasher?

00:50:32.460 It's not too, too bad of a smell, but it's, it's there.

00:50:35.300 No.

00:50:35.860 Yeah.

00:50:36.440 Well, I'm sure it's fine.

00:50:37.720 It's, it's, it's good.

00:50:39.640 Minerals.

00:50:39.880 We've been drinking it.

00:50:40.720 And Andrew's been drinking it for the past three days.

00:50:44.460 So apparently.

00:50:45.920 Okay.

00:50:46.260 He's fine.

00:50:47.160 Well, good, good detection there, Felicity.

00:50:49.820 I have been drinking a lot of alcohol for three days too.

00:50:52.000 So they could be canceling themselves.

00:50:54.100 All right.

00:50:55.080 We'll get back to the show if, uh, yeah.

00:50:57.320 All right.

00:50:57.700 Yeah.

00:50:58.220 Let's see.

00:50:58.640 Let me check if there's any chats that came through.

00:51:00.720 We have, uh, Dill Pickles.

00:51:03.260 Did you want to revise your message?

00:51:05.220 Let me see if you did.

00:51:06.300 Scroll up.

00:51:06.900 Don't show these, please.

00:51:08.120 Just don't scroll up.

00:51:09.260 I'll, I'll pull them up.

00:51:10.920 All right.

00:51:11.480 We have, oh, we have some people who bought some merch.

00:51:14.840 Uh, Trevor.

00:51:16.240 Thank you, man.

00:51:16.760 Appreciate it.

00:51:17.360 Thank you.

00:51:17.700 Looks like you got a t-shirt.

00:51:19.020 We have Brad who bought a hoodie.

00:51:22.900 Looks like we have Dwight who also bought a hoodie.

00:51:26.780 Thank you, Brad.

00:51:27.420 Hashtag BLM.

00:51:28.480 Guys, shop.whatever.com.

00:51:29.940 If you want to get this new merch we got, Big Levia Matter. 0.98

00:51:33.620 Mr. Enigmatic, immediately get an octopus in the dishwasher t-shirt.

00:51:37.260 Yeah, we need it back right away.

00:51:40.020 We're going to do some new merch.

00:51:41.180 Uh, thank you for the t-shirt purchase there.

00:51:43.360 All right.

00:51:44.080 Dill Pickles, get your revised one in.

00:51:45.880 Like I said, I can't pull it up, but if you want to revise one, 10, just 10 bucks so I can

00:51:49.920 see it.

00:51:50.800 All right.

00:51:51.380 Uh, oh my, there's a lot of chat to get through.

00:51:53.260 Okay.

00:51:53.360 So, uh, your current boyfriend though, I don't know if you guys discussed this while I was

00:51:58.020 investigating the octopus gate.

00:52:00.280 Uh, how much does he, your current boyfriend make?

00:52:04.160 We were talking about that a little bit.

00:52:06.460 It's complicated because he's part of like the gig economy and he also has like some investments,

00:52:14.600 like his property and things like that.

00:52:17.740 Um, and he just started a new business and he's getting some help from family with starting

00:52:23.280 that up.

00:52:23.840 So that's why I say it's a little complicated because he's got his hat and a few different

00:52:28.160 things.

00:52:29.040 And you said that he got you a promise ring.

00:52:32.320 I'm wearing it right now.

00:52:33.920 Yes.

00:52:35.960 Nice.

00:52:37.080 Congrats.

00:52:37.600 So what, what is a promise ring?

00:52:39.680 And basically we've been together for a year and it's kind of like his commitment to obviously

00:52:47.680 being loyal and to having a future together, but it's not an engagement because we're just

00:52:53.760 not really ready to be engaged.

00:52:55.860 Uh, he knows that I have pretty like high standards when it comes to like the person I'm with and

00:53:02.980 making a certain amount of income.

00:53:04.280 So he wants to work for the next year to get me a better engagement ring.

00:53:10.400 Okay.

00:53:11.600 I think I haven't heard about promise ring since high school.

00:53:15.640 Yeah.

00:53:15.860 It's old fashioned for sure.

00:53:17.960 Okay.

00:53:18.860 All right.

00:53:19.560 And then, uh, you wanted to, these are your new notes.

00:53:24.480 You'll be talking to your doctor about skin removal surgery.

00:53:27.500 Yeah.

00:53:28.060 Is that, that's the most recent ones you sent us?

00:53:30.360 Yeah.

00:53:30.480 Okay.

00:53:32.340 Okay.

00:53:32.780 So last.

00:53:33.360 Last time I was on the show, I was down about 80 pounds and I've maintained that weight loss.

00:53:41.580 So I've basically been losing weight for like two years.

00:53:44.500 The first year I lost the 80 pounds and then this past year I've maintained that loss.

00:53:50.920 And so now I'm trying to basically do it again.

00:53:54.180 And by the time that I do another like 75 to 80 pounds, I'm planning to get skin removal surgery.

00:54:01.320 So I'm talking to my doctor about that right now.

00:54:04.140 And that's kind of like what I document of my own content of kind of like my glow up weight loss journey.

00:54:11.680 Mm-hmm.

00:54:12.580 Yeah.

00:54:13.200 Okay.

00:54:14.680 And, uh.

00:54:15.220 The journey.

00:54:15.940 Yeah.

00:54:16.400 We talked about that last time.

00:54:17.300 It's the journey.

00:54:18.100 Mm-hmm.

00:54:19.420 And, uh, okay.

00:54:21.280 We're going to move over to, uh, nope.

00:54:26.060 She was going to be here, but she was 30 minutes late.

00:54:28.740 So no notes for her.

00:54:31.540 We have, like, the notes Nazi, like the same as the soup Nazi. 0.82

00:54:36.280 No notes for you.

00:54:37.520 Yeah, exactly.

00:54:37.980 Oh, wait.

00:54:38.140 I have something that I want to talk about with the skin removal.

00:54:41.580 Oh.

00:54:42.320 If we go back to that real quick.

00:54:43.460 Is it dating related?

00:54:44.200 Yeah, it is.

00:54:44.820 Okay.

00:54:45.420 Um, so the reason that I'm thinking about it now is because I'm trying to talk to my doctor

00:54:50.960 about getting it through my insurance.

00:54:52.800 However, my boyfriend has given me the money to get a tummy tuck.

00:54:59.600 Okay.

00:55:00.320 Yeah.

00:55:00.720 There you go.

00:55:01.400 Yeah.

00:55:02.100 And he said I can talk about it.

00:55:03.700 Like, we've, we've discussed what I, you know, can share on the podcast.

00:55:06.820 Don't you usually when you do a tummy tuck, though, you do all the weight loss first and

00:55:11.000 then do the tummy tuck, right?

00:55:12.120 Yeah.

00:55:12.400 So we're trying to plan out when that tummy tuck's going to happen, but I already have

00:55:16.300 the money to either do that or if insurance can cover that, then I want to get, like,

00:55:22.280 my arms and potentially my thighs done.

00:55:25.380 So I have the money to do it.

00:55:27.400 So I feel pretty motivated.

00:55:28.920 Amazing.

00:55:29.920 Okay.

00:55:30.600 Uh, here, I'll do chef tail pickles really quick. 0.74

00:55:32.740 Uh, the agent chef that taught me how to cook would always put the octopuses in the dish.

00:55:38.700 Oh my God.

00:55:39.800 It's standard culinary practice.

00:55:42.220 It's standard culinary practice. 1.00

00:55:42.880 Don't be ignorant, Andrew. 0.98

00:55:44.600 I love that that's a thing now. 0.99

00:55:46.100 This is great.

00:55:47.000 And then, uh, oh, we have.

00:55:48.560 Don't put your octopus in the dishwasher, ladies. 1.00

00:55:50.600 It's never going to work out.

00:55:51.420 Wash your octopus.

00:55:52.980 Crypto Haydo bought, uh, shop.whatever.com, bought a, looks like a BLM hoodie.

00:55:59.780 Thank you so much, man.

00:56:00.500 Appreciate it.

00:56:01.080 Thank you.

00:56:01.360 Thank you.

00:56:01.820 Crypto Haydo.

00:56:03.020 All right.

00:56:03.680 We're going to get to Gabriella.

00:56:06.240 Gabriella there.

00:56:07.420 It's Gabrielle.

00:56:08.540 Oh, my bad.

00:56:09.440 Okay.

00:56:09.700 Gabrielle.

00:56:10.140 Let me fix that.

00:56:10.840 You just call me Gabby.

00:56:13.020 Okay.

00:56:13.380 Um, are those reading glasses or?

00:56:16.580 Uh, yeah.

00:56:17.360 Well, they're like prescription.

00:56:18.920 I have to add them on.

00:56:19.800 I can't see.

00:56:21.000 Okay.

00:56:21.360 That's fine.

00:56:22.080 Um, you said in your notes here, one time you hooked up or a guy you hooked up with.

00:56:27.800 We didn't hook up.

00:56:28.620 We didn't hook up.

00:56:29.420 Well, I'll read it as you wrote it, but one time a guy you hooked up with dated, hooked

00:56:35.380 up with and dated lied to you about his age because he knew you wouldn't get with him

00:56:41.380 if he told you his actual age.

00:56:45.340 Okay.

00:56:45.780 I thought it was something else, but yeah, he lied about me, lied about his age to me.

00:56:50.820 He was, uh, two years younger than me.

00:56:53.220 Oh.

00:56:53.600 How old were you?

00:56:54.500 I was, I was 17 turning 18, but I was very strict on how, like, much younger I dated because

00:57:00.940 I have a little sister.

00:57:02.340 He's in the same age range as her and that's just weird.

00:57:04.960 So, 17 going 18, so he was 15?

00:57:07.780 He was, he just turned 16.

00:57:10.200 Okay.

00:57:10.640 And you were 17?

00:57:11.680 Yeah.

00:57:12.120 Okay.

00:57:12.740 So, all right.

00:57:13.400 He lied about it.

00:57:13.920 I mean, it just bothered me.

00:57:14.860 No, that's, I mean, he, I don't think there's, is, is there an issue there with the 17 with

00:57:19.820 the 16?

00:57:20.200 I mean, not, not necessarily, but it's just more uncomfortable.

00:57:23.480 The issue was he lied.

00:57:24.360 Oh, yeah, and it was just uncomfortable with me because it's just weird.

00:57:28.680 Okay.

00:57:29.460 Uh, you said that traditional, you think traditional values that are pushed onto men and, and women

00:57:36.720 in relationships, wait, hold on, was there more to that?

00:57:44.820 I don't remember.

00:57:46.040 It's been a minute.

00:57:47.100 Okay, here, I'll pull it up directly.

00:57:48.780 Uh, wait.

00:57:55.020 Oh, you had a guy try to tie you up with a bandana?

00:57:59.020 Oh, my gosh.

00:58:00.000 Oh, wait, that, wait.

00:58:03.980 Okay.

00:58:04.780 How did somebody get tied up with a bandana?

00:58:06.620 Bro, it was a miscommunication.

00:58:08.220 He took things the wrong way.

00:58:09.700 Oh.

00:58:10.280 We were watching the show.

00:58:11.660 As someone does.

00:58:12.940 I made a, I made a joke about something that was happening on TV, and then he was like,

00:58:16.700 oh, you want me to tie you up with a bandana?

00:58:18.120 And then started to get up and grab it, and I was just like, what are you talking about?

00:58:21.340 No, no.

00:58:22.260 It was just weird, odd.

00:58:26.380 Did he tie you up with the bandana?

00:58:28.120 No, no, no.

00:58:30.660 Was it because it was a bandana and not rope?

00:58:32.880 Or?

00:58:33.720 Maybe.

00:58:34.520 Maybe.

00:58:35.160 Okay.

00:58:35.380 Okay, so going back to this, though.

00:58:39.980 So it was, any dating topics or takes you want to speak on, if so, what, to which you

00:58:45.220 wrote, I think traditional values that are pushed onto men and women in relationships

00:58:50.880 or otherwise.

00:58:52.780 So are you against traditional values that are pushed onto men and women, or are you in

00:58:57.180 favor of them?

00:58:58.380 Not necessarily.

00:58:59.840 I mean, it's, I think it's really up to what the people, like, the people in the relationship

00:59:03.840 wants.

00:59:04.800 But when you're trying to push that agenda onto people who aren't practicing that, that's

00:59:09.900 when it gets negative.

00:59:11.900 I see.

00:59:12.880 Okay.

00:59:13.160 And what, negative how, I guess?

00:59:17.440 I mean, it's like, it's just judging people for living their life the way you don't want

00:59:24.060 to live it, I guess.

00:59:25.340 Like, it gets, like, let's say a girl's out sleeping with multiple people not in a relationship

00:59:30.880 and then someone who, like, is in the long term, they just start hating on that person.

00:59:36.860 I think it's just mind your own business because it's not your life, I guess.

00:59:41.560 Things like that.

00:59:43.160 Do you think it should be that way just with strangers?

00:59:45.420 What about people that are, like, in your family?

00:59:47.460 I mean, in your family, you can advocate it, but it gets, like, if, you can advocate for

00:59:52.040 having a better dating life, but if you're pushing it in a way that's shaming them for

00:59:59.220 how they're doing things, then it's inherently negative, I guess.

01:00:06.300 Okay.

01:00:09.640 So if somebody, I'm trying to think of an example here.

01:00:13.160 If a guy didn't want to date a woman because of her body count and he was, he prescriptively

01:00:19.840 was like, yeah, that's a bad thing.

01:00:22.060 People shouldn't be promiscuous.

01:00:23.540 Would you object to?

01:00:25.760 No, because that's his preference.

01:00:26.980 That's what he thinks.

01:00:27.760 Yeah, but he's trying to instill his, like, he's trying to put out to the world, like, don't

01:00:35.860 do that.

01:00:36.980 Well, I mean, you can advocate for it.

01:00:38.660 Okay. 0.64

01:00:39.560 But if you're calling someone a slut because of it, then that's where it gets foggy. 0.92

01:00:47.860 Gets foggy. 0.88

01:00:48.600 Okay.

01:00:48.820 And then I noticed in some of your Instagram photos you wear a cross.

01:00:53.500 Are you Christian?

01:00:56.640 Not necessarily, no.

01:00:58.820 I'm trying to get back into it.

01:01:00.940 I was a Baptist for most of my life, and I just fell out of the belief when I was in middle

01:01:08.640 school, and recently I've been wanting to get back into it.

01:01:12.120 Got it.

01:01:13.000 Okay.

01:01:13.600 And then you also wrote, oh, as far as disagreements with the show, you said you had a lot, but

01:01:21.840 you can't pinpoint all of it.

01:01:23.040 I can't pinpoint it because I just have a really bad memory.

01:01:25.800 Oh, my God.

01:01:26.320 It was like, I can't remember.

01:01:29.240 Okay.

01:01:29.940 So you said probably his opinions on body count.

01:01:34.480 What are my opinions on body count?

01:01:36.540 Well, I can't remember, but I think it's just, like, the fact that it matters.

01:01:42.180 I guess.

01:01:43.000 I mean, it does, but it doesn't.

01:01:45.920 What's your body count?

01:01:47.100 Two.

01:01:47.920 Okay.

01:01:49.980 So I guess, why does it not matter?

01:01:53.800 If you're looking for some of a little body count, then look in that dating pool. 0.90

01:01:59.580 Let me ask something different, too.

01:02:03.620 If you count, like, BJs, fingerings, all that stuff, does your body count change?

01:02:12.080 It goes up by, like, one.

01:02:16.060 Okay.

01:02:16.780 So it does change.

01:02:17.720 I wouldn't add it.

01:02:18.620 I wouldn't include that in the body count.

01:02:20.040 Well, I'm just curious.

01:02:20.960 I'm just curious, like, is the criteria for body count just penetrative sex?

01:02:25.580 No, because I think that rules out a lot of non-heterosexual things.

01:02:28.040 Yeah, because then, like, homosexual women, that wouldn't be a body count then, right? 1.00

01:02:33.120 This is a good point.

01:02:33.560 Well, I think you would have a separate category, but the heterosexual body count, I think, strictly

01:02:40.140 would refer to intercourse. 0.99

01:02:41.740 So if a chick was like, Brian, I'm a virgin, but I sucked 100 dicks, that would be, like, 1.00

01:02:46.120 You know she'd be really good at it. 1.00

01:02:48.860 So that could be judged.

01:02:51.460 Yeah.

01:02:51.760 But I wouldn't consider it a body count.

01:02:56.540 That's still, it's still not good.

01:02:59.900 It's still not great. 1.00

01:03:01.480 I think if you suck a dick, you've got to add that to the body count. 1.00

01:03:03.780 Well, you just reminded me with the 100 BJs. 1.00

01:03:06.740 Oh, I just reminded you of something, didn't I?

01:03:11.040 Yeah, I want to talk about Bonnie Blue at one point today.

01:03:14.900 Okay, sure.

01:03:16.220 I mean, I'm pretty sure, like, half the things she does and says are just lies just for attention.

01:03:23.200 I've seen her Twitter.

01:03:25.120 I don't know.

01:03:25.700 Yeah, I mean, she faked a pregnancy, like, both those, Bonnie Blue, who's the other D-Gen? 1.00

01:03:30.240 Lily.

01:03:31.020 Lily Phillips.

01:03:31.680 Yeah, they're just, I think they do some D-Gen stuff, but I think a lot of it is just, 1.00

01:03:36.200 like, oh, I'm going to do the most, like, claim I did the most salacious thing, or, you

01:03:41.620 know, I don't think they actually do a lot of D-Gen, D-Gen, D-Gen stuff.

01:03:45.760 They claim they do.

01:03:47.080 I've seen some.

01:03:49.200 Yeah, I don't doubt.

01:03:49.780 I haven't purchased anything.

01:03:50.900 Yeah, I don't doubt that they do it.

01:03:51.200 But I've seen it on Twitter.

01:03:52.680 But I think they sensationalize some of this stuff and they just make it up because they're

01:03:56.620 like, oh, I don't have to actually do the thing.

01:03:59.000 I can just say I did the thing and still receive the benefit.

01:04:02.360 Do you think that that chick, Bonnie, is really in her 20s?

01:04:06.200 No.

01:04:06.740 I don't know.

01:04:07.340 I think she is, but some people just.

01:04:10.040 I don't think she is.

01:04:11.500 I think.

01:04:11.620 You think she's in her 30s? 0.99

01:04:12.600 Yeah.

01:04:12.760 I mean, she should be lying about her age, but I don't think she's in her 30s.

01:04:15.760 For sure, that chick is in her 30s. 1.00

01:04:18.940 Early 30s, but I think she's in her 30s.

01:04:21.080 I think she's had some work done, which makes her in the face.

01:04:26.000 I don't know.

01:04:27.240 I don't know.

01:04:28.200 You just reminded me.

01:04:29.280 The 100 BJs. 0.66

01:04:31.340 But so wait, where were we?

01:04:32.820 Oh, the BJ, does that count towards body count?

01:04:36.320 I mean, like, for example, Andrew, I wouldn't say a woman whose body count is zero, but she's 1.00

01:04:42.260 given 100 BJs is nearly as desirable or the same as a woman who has a body count of zero 1.00

01:04:49.920 and is also given zero BJs.

01:04:52.620 So, okay, so hang on.

01:04:53.800 But I wouldn't categorize it as, like, a body.

01:04:59.020 But what if she's only had one body, right, given zero BJs or anything, and the other one 1.00

01:05:04.940 has zero bodies, but it's given 100 BJs?

01:05:07.180 Which one would you select for?

01:05:09.320 The one with one body.

01:05:11.360 Yeah, right.

01:05:12.200 So then.

01:05:13.820 So, yeah, you see what I'm saying?

01:05:15.600 So it seems like you do categorize it as at least on par or something close to on par with

01:05:21.180 it.

01:05:21.320 Yeah, but I mean, I could, I would say, like, okay, a woman who's had three bodies, but

01:05:26.100 she, it was like, it was group sex is, could be arguably worse than a woman who has three 1.00

01:05:34.140 individual partners or even, like, four or five, like, individual bodies, but they were,

01:05:38.360 like, long time.

01:05:38.800 Because of the nature of the act, right?

01:05:41.520 Right.

01:05:41.940 Yeah, yeah, I understand that.

01:05:43.060 But I just think that, like, if a dude, you know, if you, like, finish it in a chick's 0.99

01:05:48.280 mouth, like, I'm just going to count that as the same thing, dude.

01:05:51.180 I just count it as the same thing.

01:05:52.640 Yeah, that's fair.

01:05:53.440 I mean, perhaps you could ask, it would be fair to ask a clarifying, like, okay, well,

01:05:58.000 if your, your, your sex body count is this, what's your job body count, I guess. 0.98

01:06:03.680 But I wouldn't call it a, fuck, maybe we could throw it in there, but I've, when I think 0.99

01:06:10.860 of body count, I've always considered it. 0.99

01:06:12.580 What's the blow count?

01:06:13.560 What's the blow count?

01:06:14.300 What's the blow count?

01:06:14.940 You know what?

01:06:15.480 Maybe, you know, maybe there's been a lot of, a lot of, you know, the girl claims.

01:06:20.940 A lot of the virgins.

01:06:22.580 Virgins.

01:06:22.900 And who have a high blow count. 0.99

01:06:24.640 But the, but the oral sex count, very high. 1.00

01:06:28.320 Shit. 1.00

01:06:29.040 I need to start. 1.00

01:06:29.420 Like, it's a, like, it's a DUI thing, right?

01:06:31.320 It's like, you know, did you blow six?

01:06:33.320 Did you blow seven?

01:06:34.280 Right?

01:06:34.520 For the DUIs.

01:06:35.240 It's true.

01:06:35.880 That's a good.

01:06:36.880 Well, you know what though?

01:06:37.860 Here's the other thing that I've, oh, I have, I had something on this is so, and maybe the panel,

01:06:44.560 the women on the panel could weigh in on this too, is, so there's the body count, right? 1.00

01:06:49.820 You could have a girl who has a body count of one and a body count of one. 1.00

01:06:53.980 But if you look at the specific guy that each of those women was with, that could have an impact.

01:07:01.860 Like, even if it's, she has one, she, she has one. 1.00

01:07:05.180 If they dealt with a, just like a filthy dude, like just a scumbag. 1.00

01:07:11.400 Like, like I'd almost like a grimy, like a fucking grimy dude. 1.00

01:07:15.680 That's just an amplifier. 0.99

01:07:16.680 Like if it was, I don't know, like, who's a fucking grimy dude? 0.94

01:07:19.900 Like Lil Xan or Tekashi 6ix9ine or like NLE Choppa or the Island Boys. 0.97

01:07:27.080 Oh, wait, Mary, Google Island Boys.

01:07:30.340 Yeah.

01:07:30.680 Google Images, just so the girls here know what I'm talking about.

01:07:33.380 If a girl's been with a grimy dude, that's like an amplifier.

01:07:39.540 That's like 3X.

01:07:40.800 You got a 3X, the body count.

01:07:42.440 I don't, yeah, I don't think it's just like who she slept with, with that one too.

01:07:45.940 I think you're also questioning why she's with that person and if she's overcome her trauma and like, if she's addicted to chaos.

01:07:54.520 These guys, can you like, like, open a new tab?

01:08:01.440 Yeah. 0.72

01:08:02.160 Thank God I'm gay. 1.00

01:08:02.840 If a girl has had sex, if she's only had sex with one of the Island Boys, that's like 30 bodies. 1.00

01:08:10.680 She might as well have a body count of 30. 1.00

01:08:13.420 Yeah, that's, it's a 30X, 30X amplifier. 0.99

01:08:17.100 So that's another component of the body count discussion where if she fucked a grimy dude. 1.00

01:08:24.220 You got to count all of his. 0.99

01:08:25.760 Okay, so one more question.

01:08:26.780 Do we have the photo really quick?

01:08:27.920 One more question about this.

01:08:29.240 What about, what about times?

01:08:30.640 So if it's like, a girl's slept with two guys, but only once each, but slept with one guy a hundred times.

01:08:43.380 Oh, that's an interesting, well, it could almost go both ways, couldn't it?

01:08:48.520 Because on one hand, a one night stand is kind of grimy.

01:08:53.620 Yeah, it's pretty grimy. 1.00

01:08:54.400 Uh, but then, whereas the other one, you would say, well, it was like a long-term committed monogamous relationship, but then, yeah, shit. 0.99

01:09:04.660 I don't know. 0.94

01:09:05.780 I don't know, that's a, I would frame, you know what, here's how I, here's how I would frame this, right?

01:09:11.740 Okay.

01:09:12.060 And there's probably variations based on like, if you start going more, if there's like more.

01:09:17.480 Uh, so it'd be something like this.

01:09:20.960 If a girl has one body, and she slept with a guy one time, versus she had a boyfriend, and she slept with him a thousand times, honestly, I would prefer the girl who just slept with a guy one time. 0.97

01:09:35.200 Okay.

01:09:35.920 I know, yeah.

01:09:38.240 And then I'm number two, yeah.

01:09:39.860 Okay, but what if it's three?

01:09:42.060 Three.

01:09:42.840 One time.

01:09:43.980 Yeah, three one time.

01:09:45.120 And then a chick with one guy.

01:09:46.880 With one guy, but like a thousand times.

01:09:50.100 Hmm.

01:09:50.800 Really, even if it was a long-term relationship.

01:09:52.980 In that case.

01:09:53.800 She's being monogamous and safe, you're just like, no thanks, I want the one night. 0.99

01:09:57.360 No, I'm not saying, hold on, I'm not saying I wouldn't date, I'm not saying I wouldn't date her, I'm just saying what would be more preferable.

01:10:04.060 Yeah.

01:10:04.280 So the, I'm not excluding the one in the long-term relationship in the one v one example he gave, but so you're saying three one night stands versus one, I'd pick the one in that situation.

01:10:16.380 Me too.

01:10:16.880 I'd pick the one in that situation.

01:10:18.020 Me too.

01:10:18.640 But if it's like equal for equal, so, but then if it starts getting, hmm.

01:10:23.280 Okay, how about this, Andrew, to you?

01:10:25.120 Mm-hmm.

01:10:25.380 Uh, 10 one night stands or 10 long-term relationships where they had sex a hundred times each.

01:10:31.740 So how do you know they had sex a hundred times?

01:10:34.240 Can you have 10 long-term relationships?

01:10:35.980 That's what I was going to say.

01:10:36.420 I would say she's like 35 and she's, uh, sure.

01:10:40.520 Nah, at that point I would take the 10 one night stands if I had to choose between it.

01:10:42.960 10 one night stands, interesting.

01:10:44.540 Because the long, I mean, if you're in a long-term relationship that's failed nine times, that's a problem, right?

01:10:49.620 That's a bigger red flag than, than just having, oh, that's interesting.

01:10:54.240 That's, I didn't think of it that way, but yeah, that would be, yeah.

01:10:58.020 But then, I mean, the other one's not great either.

01:11:00.300 No, it's not great either.

01:11:01.260 Neither are.

01:11:01.860 Yeah, well, this is, you got to push the button, right?

01:11:04.140 Right, yeah.

01:11:04.680 This is the, this is the body count trolley problem.

01:11:07.740 This is the, yeah.

01:11:09.160 I know.

01:11:10.040 The body count trolley problem?

01:11:11.440 Is it like, it's like low quality or whatever?

01:11:15.060 Go ahead, you can pull it up super quick.

01:11:16.600 If you had to choose.

01:11:17.960 And you had to pick.

01:11:19.440 Oh, God. 1.00

01:11:21.640 Yeah, if, if a girl was a virgin but fucked one of these guys, I'm sorry. 0.99

01:11:26.180 That's, that's 30X amplifier. 0.99

01:11:28.240 I think it's also because they're from Florida.

01:11:29.780 I mean, chat, chat, do you agree? 0.98

01:11:36.140 Like, if they, if a girl has sex with a grimy dude, it's a, it's like a amplifier. 0.61

01:11:40.760 It's like an X. 0.82

01:11:41.780 It's a multiplier.

01:11:43.160 Definitely a multiplier.

01:11:43.280 I feel like this should apply to guys too.

01:11:45.020 Oh, yeah.

01:11:45.540 Yeah, if you, if you're, if you are sticking to something and something nasty and you're

01:11:50.920 like, that's, that counts.

01:11:52.020 What would be the, I wonder what, who's like a grimy chick? 1.00

01:11:55.400 Oh, we got plenty.

01:11:57.000 Who's a grimy girl? 1.00

01:11:57.760 Name one.

01:11:58.880 There's a lot.

01:11:59.780 I don't know.

01:12:01.340 Oh, I don't know.

01:12:01.740 Come on.

01:12:01.860 The ones that I think are bad, though, probably aren't that bad.

01:12:03.400 Come on, wait, who, who?

01:12:04.520 Oh, I mean, we could, we could use her example.

01:12:07.100 Like, if you knew a guy had, well, it's different though, because girls, like. 1.00

01:12:13.400 To sue me.

01:12:14.020 Okay, if, do you guys know who Lily Phillips is?

01:12:16.760 Yes.

01:12:17.220 Bonnie Blue?

01:12:18.200 Yes.

01:12:18.880 Okay, they, they.

01:12:19.500 I keep up.

01:12:20.400 She does.

01:12:21.240 I know, sorry, I don't like anybody in my scene.

01:12:23.580 That's pretty grimy.

01:12:25.020 But that's over the top, though.

01:12:26.520 It's like, she's worse than the Island Boys would be the other way.

01:12:28.980 Brooke Candy is like an Island Boy, but as a woman. 0.98

01:12:32.180 Well, there you go.

01:12:32.720 I'm not sure who that is.

01:12:33.120 I get that picture in my head.

01:12:34.400 I'm not sure who that is.

01:12:36.640 All right.

01:12:38.480 Let's see here.

01:12:40.700 But so, going back to you, what, what were the disagreements, I guess?

01:12:45.500 Like I said, I can't pinpoint them.

01:12:47.160 You say, but pinpoint.

01:12:48.400 Go ahead, pinpoint.

01:12:49.120 Bro, I can't.

01:12:49.720 What do you mean?

01:12:50.440 Pinpoint.

01:12:50.920 Go ahead, body count.

01:12:51.960 So, okay, of what you just heard, and we were talking about grimy, women sleeping with grimy dudes.

01:12:59.480 No pushback there.

01:13:00.820 No.

01:13:01.380 No. 0.99

01:13:01.660 Because the Island Boys are disgusting. 1.00

01:13:03.360 They're disgusting. 1.00

01:13:04.520 All right. 0.97

01:13:04.760 I'm pretty sure they did OnlyFans together, too, or had something on Twitter.

01:13:08.440 They did that.

01:13:08.900 That was disgusting.

01:13:10.120 Yeah.

01:13:10.440 I saw, like, a video.

01:13:12.100 No.

01:13:12.900 That was absolutely disgusting.

01:13:14.040 But, like, if a girl tells me that she, like, slept with a famous rapper, I'm just like, ah. 0.57

01:13:21.920 That's a 30X multiplier on the body count.

01:13:24.140 But what if it's famous rock star?

01:13:27.060 Oh.

01:13:27.740 Also bad.

01:13:28.620 Yeah, but which one's worse to you, though?

01:13:31.000 Gene Simmons, rock stars actually have talent, so I'm going to have to say, you know, it's, although.

01:13:43.500 Is that worse?

01:13:44.600 So you're going for, like, Metallica fangirl over Diddy fangirl?

01:13:51.440 It would be, like, who's, like, I don't know.

01:13:55.320 Do you listen to rap music?

01:13:57.700 Yeah.

01:13:58.020 All right, who's, like, a big rap artist right now?

01:14:03.060 Kendrick Lamar.

01:14:04.440 Kendrick Lamar's a sweet one.

01:14:05.820 He's married.

01:14:07.060 Or, like, Drake or something.

01:14:08.540 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:14:09.180 Okay, well, if a girl fucked Drake, yikes. 1.00

01:14:14.960 Yeah, because then she has at least good taste in music. 1.00

01:14:18.220 Like, if she fucked, like, Axl Rose from Guns N' Roses or some shit. 1.00

01:14:23.020 Like, yeah, I'm going to give her, although, man, that guy's, he's been around since the 80s, so that's a rough one. 0.99

01:14:29.480 I have a question.

01:14:30.720 Is it different for you if she actually, like, was in a relationship and dated a, like, famous musician and then they broke up?

01:14:39.120 Like, it wasn't just a one-time thing?

01:14:42.120 Well, the body is still grinding.

01:14:44.880 Mm-hmm.

01:14:45.400 Okay.

01:14:45.880 Because they still slept with the dude. 1.00

01:14:48.220 I don't know if it really changes that much.

01:14:50.740 Oh, but here, okay, but hang on.

01:14:52.540 Oh, boy.

01:14:53.140 All right.

01:14:53.420 Go ahead.

01:14:53.600 If we get back, if we get back to the B question here, right, if they blew one of the Island Boys, wouldn't you consider that the same thing in that case?

01:15:05.000 Yeah.

01:15:06.640 Nah.

01:15:07.280 No?

01:15:07.560 It's still bad.

01:15:08.160 Don't get me wrong.

01:15:08.940 It's still bad, but it's, like, it's the, what's it?

01:15:13.980 It's, like, the progression of worseness. 0.98

01:15:16.740 So, like, if, if they just, like, held hands, then kissed, then, like, second base, oral sex, full, you know, sex, it's, it's the progression of disgust. 0.99

01:15:32.680 Oh. 0.99

01:15:33.420 The disgust progression. 1.00

01:15:36.740 I think that shit's just as gross, dude. 1.00

01:15:39.500 Oh, it's, it's bad. 1.00

01:15:41.460 Yeah.

01:15:41.760 I think it's just as bad.

01:15:43.460 I'm putting them both in the same category.

01:15:44.960 Okay, no, but, but, so, when we were talking about, like, is it a body, I wasn't even attributing necessarily to, is it as bad or not? 0.98

01:15:53.240 There could be some dispute over whether oral sex is, in terms of the disgust response, is as bad as sexual intercourse. 0.97

01:16:05.580 It's disputable, I guess. 0.99

01:16:09.620 The girls are loving this conversation. 1.00

01:16:11.260 Go for it.

01:16:16.260 Here's the, I mean, it's dating related.

01:16:18.200 Yeah.

01:16:18.580 Wait, Spyro did a algorithm here.

01:16:21.140 I can't even parse this.

01:16:23.840 Okay, Spyro.

01:16:24.360 I can't.

01:16:24.980 Hey, where's, where's the, uh.

01:16:26.300 Oral times body count is greater than three.

01:16:29.000 Oh.

01:16:29.540 Bro.

01:16:30.000 Well, maybe.

01:16:30.320 She's, that's linguistics. 1.00

01:16:32.220 All right.

01:16:32.740 One night soon.

01:16:33.420 Thank you, Spyro, for the, oh, updated math.

01:16:35.580 He did the updated.

01:16:36.720 Yeah.

01:16:36.760 Thank you, Spyro.

01:16:37.820 I can't even parse that out.

01:16:39.360 I don't even know.

01:16:40.540 Wait, did he include it for the, the grimy?

01:16:43.120 Is there, was there a grimy fact?

01:16:44.220 Pull back up.

01:16:44.460 Just use your order of operations.

01:16:45.560 I lost it.

01:16:47.400 It got, uh, let me see.

01:16:49.320 It got unstarted.

01:16:50.160 Cosign.

01:16:50.720 Yeah, use your order of operations.

01:16:52.020 We'll figure this thing out.

01:16:52.860 Yeah.

01:16:53.000 So, look, ladies, me and Andrew here have just been talking about grimy dudes and body counts.

01:16:57.780 Are you guys going to push back at all on this?

01:16:59.720 You guys seem to really love it.

01:17:01.380 You seem very entertained by grimy guys.

01:17:03.600 I think we're all kind of in agreement, but the thing is though, how are you going to

01:17:07.380 know if somebody who's maybe not famous, but still equally grimy?

01:17:11.120 Like there are men out there who sleep around crazy and don't talk about body count.

01:17:14.960 So like, I get you're having the discussion about it, but it's like, I don't know how

01:17:18.260 to like, well, women don't, women don't have the same intuitive disgust about it that

01:17:22.500 men do.

01:17:23.260 That's the interesting part.

01:17:24.400 You think?

01:17:24.700 Same intuitive disgust?

01:17:25.700 Yeah.

01:17:26.300 Yeah.

01:17:26.720 Well, this is.

01:17:27.640 In what way?

01:17:28.660 Yeah.

01:17:28.820 Yeah.

01:17:28.960 So, um, paternity tests, those are pretty recent inventions, right?

01:17:33.700 Yeah.

01:17:34.000 How would men assure paternity before a paternity test?

01:17:37.900 The way that they looked when the Bobby, when the baby came out.

01:17:41.340 How else?

01:17:42.120 What would be the best way to assure that the child was yours? 0.99

01:17:44.920 Make sure that you're the only one having sex with her. 0.99

01:17:47.120 Right. 0.99

01:17:47.140 You're the only one.

01:17:47.800 Right.

01:17:47.900 So for the, for the assurance of reproduction for the purposes of survival, right?

01:17:54.780 It's, it makes sense why men have this kind of like revolt carriage to women with multiple

01:18:00.360 men.

01:18:00.860 So they want to assure that that's their offspring.

01:18:03.380 They can't assure that it's the offspring.

01:18:04.800 It also is detrimental to the mother because then they can just deny it.

01:18:09.980 Right.

01:18:10.640 It's not mine.

01:18:11.420 You slept with multiple men.

01:18:12.740 So that's it.

01:18:14.540 And that's why that revolter disgust is there for men. 0.85

01:18:17.120 You don't think that that's societal in there too?

01:18:20.140 What do you mean?

01:18:21.060 Um, I don't know if there's, this is just what you find socially when you, when you,

01:18:26.100 you know, when you, uh, give different polls and different questions between the sexes.

01:18:30.500 Correct.

01:18:31.000 It's not that women don't care about it. 1.00

01:18:34.020 I'm not saying that.

01:18:35.240 Right.

01:18:35.720 And some women really care about it. 1.00

01:18:37.380 Just that they seem to care about it less than men care about it with them.

01:18:41.060 Or a different reason why, like for women, it'd be protection or safety because if you 0.99

01:18:45.660 have someone that's sleeping on a lot, right.

01:18:47.940 We, well, we might, yeah.

01:18:49.600 So if you use that terminology with someone, a guy might go revolted, a women, we might 1.00

01:18:53.780 forgive more or something, or we might look at a different angle.

01:18:57.720 That would tell me that it's just not as, as prominent of a deal breaker as it is for

01:19:02.460 men.

01:19:02.800 Or if we, maybe if you just did how you ask, you know, cause I do think that there's women 1.00

01:19:06.740 that are going to be like, I don't want a guy that's sleeping around too much because 0.88

01:19:09.900 I don't want to catch something or I don't want to.

01:19:11.500 Yeah.

01:19:11.860 But let me like, here, I'll show you a big distinct difference that I think will maybe

01:19:15.620 change your view on this.

01:19:16.580 So if you tell a guy, well, you know, there's a woman and she's 28, 29 years old, right.

01:19:23.880 And she's still a virgin.

01:19:24.860 They think, well, that's a pretty good catch, right.

01:19:28.180 28, 29.

01:19:29.440 But the flip side is, is that women will often reject men at 28, 29 who are virgins because 0.99

01:19:34.060 they think what, what the fuck is wrong with this guy that no woman wants him. 0.98

01:19:37.600 So that happens often to men. 0.99

01:19:39.320 Um, I don't know.

01:19:40.600 I've seen it in, in coaching.

01:19:42.020 It just depends on different societies.

01:19:43.820 And then also I have a lot of clients that are thirties and forties who are virgins.

01:19:48.400 Mostly men though, right?

01:19:49.480 Just, just, I coach women too. 1.00

01:19:51.760 Just one sec, we'll come right back to it.

01:19:54.000 Jungle.

01:19:54.440 Yo, jungle guys, W's in the chat for jungle.

01:19:57.380 Pop champagne.

01:19:58.440 Yo, Brian.

01:19:59.480 What up?

01:20:00.740 Pop that bottle. 0.99

01:20:01.920 Andrew is going to need it with all these lesbians. 1.00

01:20:04.800 Thank you, brother. 0.96

01:20:05.380 History and Bubba Jacob bringing all the race jokes to life on the other side. 0.95

01:20:10.080 Who here wants, who here wants champagne?

01:20:13.580 Champagne?

01:20:14.200 Champagne?

01:20:14.860 Yes?

01:20:15.580 Yeah.

01:20:15.920 No?

01:20:16.660 I'll take some.

01:20:17.260 Yes?

01:20:18.080 Sorry, you can't have any.

01:20:19.200 Yes?

01:20:19.540 Yes.

01:20:20.220 So wait, yes.

01:20:21.740 Yes.

01:20:23.840 Yes.

01:20:24.560 Wait, yes, yes, yes.

01:20:25.800 Okay, so five total.

01:20:27.340 Yo, jungle.

01:20:28.100 Thank you so much for the champagne pop, man.

01:20:29.680 You're welcome.

01:20:30.140 By the way, they better not be, and if they are, they should probably shut that stream

01:20:35.740 off and be done with it. 0.99

01:20:38.200 If they were to do something that stupid, you know, they should probably not do that. 1.00

01:20:44.660 Just saying. 1.00

01:20:46.880 Oh, because it's on your channel.

01:20:48.520 Yeah, just saying.

01:20:49.380 Probably shouldn't be doing that.

01:20:52.140 But jungle, thank you so much for the champagne pop.

01:20:54.900 You're legend, sir.

01:20:55.800 Thank you.

01:20:56.100 Thank you so much.

01:20:57.360 All right.

01:20:57.940 We'll get this pouring.

01:20:58.920 Sorry, you guys can continue on with your conversation.

01:21:01.960 So you were talking about your clientele and how they don't really care.

01:21:05.060 I think it just depends.

01:21:07.660 As far as for being a virgin, if the guy's insecure about being a virgin, he'll naturally

01:21:14.180 go towards and by accident date women who will say something like that, right?

01:21:19.040 But the more he heals from that insecurity, the more that all of a sudden he's naturally

01:21:22.500 around people that really don't care.

01:21:23.920 But as far as societal, we've noticed that certain countries don't necessarily consider

01:21:30.240 body count or care like Spain.

01:21:32.860 Spain, for instance, women are very much so more sexually dominant there. 0.82

01:21:37.740 They even go half on the bill or pay the bill is usually that kind of.

01:21:44.060 So some of it's societal, some of it's very primal, of course.

01:21:47.840 Like you want to make sure that you're procreating that your seed is, that's yours.

01:21:51.720 So of course there's something to it on that one.

01:21:53.680 So I think it's also how you phrase the question to someone.

01:21:56.780 All right, let's do a really quick...

01:21:59.380 I don't know if it, I don't know if it would be how you phrase it.

01:22:02.580 What do you mean how you phrase the question?

01:22:04.240 If you ask a woman, hey, would you care if you were dating a guy and he was sleeping around 0.99

01:22:08.440 with a whole bunch of women, you know, while you guys were in a relationship, I'm sure

01:22:12.660 she's going to have like a repulse factor in that, right? 0.90

01:22:14.980 Yeah, of course.

01:22:16.800 But that's not really what you would ask, right?

01:22:19.300 So what the question determines is like, if you're asking previous partners, right?

01:22:24.900 So if you were, I think if you were to keep all things equal, right?

01:22:29.220 And you were to say to any number of different women, there's a man here who has a 100 body

01:22:35.220 count, right?

01:22:36.720 Versus there's a woman here to the same equal amount of men who has a 100 body count that 1.00

01:22:41.280 the men would be far more revolted by that than the women. 0.96

01:22:43.960 Sure.

01:22:44.260 And I'm just saying with that one, sometimes we notice that that has a little bit to do

01:22:48.000 with society, like in Spain compared to here, for instance.

01:22:51.020 But yes, you have, you have that for sure.

01:22:53.420 So I'm picking up on a lot of words, like you said, primal.

01:22:58.540 I think you said something about like when you're selecting a mate to procreate and everything.

01:23:03.960 Like for me, body count and like putting value on anybody, male, female, whatever, based

01:23:11.400 on who they've touched or not touched, like we're making equations and trying to figure this 0.99

01:23:17.940 shit out. 0.94

01:23:18.420 But like at the end of it, like we're not in BC era. 0.99

01:23:22.720 We don't have to pick mates on how much they said.

01:23:25.820 We do still have to.

01:23:26.800 Because.

01:23:27.080 Well, you can go get pregnant by yourself as a woman without a man even being involved. 0.99

01:23:31.440 So I just feel like we're at this point in our society.

01:23:33.740 Well, no, you definitely can't get pregnant without a man being involved. 1.00

01:23:35.780 Well, you got to have some sperm. 1.00

01:23:37.000 So I guess what I mean is without intercourse or without worrying about how many persons that

01:23:42.320 man or woman have been with, I just think that putting value on a person because of body count

01:23:48.300 is so not 2025 because like we don't have to do that anymore.

01:23:52.680 Yeah, but it's still part of a survival mechanism.

01:23:55.480 For who?

01:23:55.900 For men or heterosexual men or everybody?

01:23:58.440 Well, I'll explain it.

01:23:59.000 Okay.

01:23:59.740 So human beings.

01:24:00.640 Wait, really quick.

01:24:01.440 Yep.

01:24:01.580 We've got to do a cheers.

01:24:03.160 Oh, cool.

01:24:04.640 Cheers.

01:24:05.360 Salud.

01:24:06.120 Salud.

01:24:06.480 To Jungle.

01:24:08.040 Welcome to the Jungle.

01:24:08.980 Thank you.

01:24:09.320 Appreciate it, man.

01:24:10.200 Woo.

01:24:12.320 So human beings are pattern recognition machines.

01:24:16.060 That's how we live our lives.

01:24:17.620 Patterns change.

01:24:18.500 Just keep going.

01:24:19.180 Sorry.

01:24:19.400 How do you know they change?

01:24:21.140 That's evolution, sir.

01:24:22.400 Right.

01:24:22.740 So you know patterns change because they don't fit the pattern that you're used to.

01:24:27.460 Yep.

01:24:27.740 That's how, right?

01:24:28.560 Pretty much, yeah.

01:24:28.880 That would be the way.

01:24:29.460 So if you're a pattern recognition machine and you notice a pattern between people who

01:24:34.860 do this type of behavior, right?

01:24:37.600 This is what I see with them.

01:24:38.700 People who do this type of behavior.

01:24:39.900 This is what I see with them.

01:24:40.800 Some people, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

01:24:43.160 The reason that's ingrained inside of you to do, to make those risk calculations, is

01:24:47.380 so that you can survive and thrive long term.

01:24:49.600 And every human being does this, like all of them.

01:24:52.780 In ways, I get to.

01:24:54.220 Yeah.

01:24:54.540 But you know, I just feel like as society advances, some of our mindset has to advance

01:25:00.760 and change too.

01:25:01.500 Because we're not out here catching AIDS and STDs as much as we used to because we have

01:25:06.420 those.

01:25:06.700 Because STDs are at almost an all-time high, I believe.

01:25:11.120 Like they're increasing.

01:25:12.760 They're increasing.

01:25:13.280 Yeah.

01:25:13.640 In fact, STDs we almost got rid of.

01:25:15.740 Yeah.

01:25:16.160 Are now back with a bang.

01:25:17.580 That's interesting.

01:25:18.420 So that, to me, that says that more, you know, I may be wrong.

01:25:21.920 No, this is just like a personal opinion.

01:25:23.380 Like maybe if STDs are kind of on a rise or not going down, I mean, it seems like promiscuity

01:25:30.240 is in, in a way, because people who have STDs are obviously still having sex and having

01:25:35.940 sex and having sex. 0.86

01:25:37.020 So some consider it a very important thing. 0.85

01:25:40.200 Well, there's reasons though, right?

01:25:41.500 Like it may be, well, there, there could be trends you could point to that promiscuity

01:25:45.720 is going down actually.

01:25:46.980 But, but what is going up is things like sex work and the amount of people who are involved

01:25:52.440 in sex work.

01:25:53.340 Well, that is a place where you would grab a lot of STDs and get them out to the general

01:25:57.300 public, right?

01:25:58.040 Your risk assessment for that is way, way, way higher.

01:26:00.360 So that's the case.

01:26:01.680 Yeah.

01:26:02.180 You wouldn't actually need general societal promiscuity to go up just a small portion

01:26:06.840 of the society to engage in high risk behavior and then move it out.

01:26:10.420 That's what happened with HIV, for instance.

01:26:12.420 Yeah.

01:26:12.600 Right.

01:26:12.880 Same thing.

01:26:13.400 It was a small subset of the population, but they were heavily promiscuous that moved out

01:26:17.540 to the other subsets, the population.

01:26:20.360 Yeah.

01:26:20.480 In a way.

01:26:20.880 Yeah.

01:26:21.180 Yeah.

01:26:21.360 I think it's also because there's a lack of sexual education in schools now. 0.92

01:26:25.340 Yeah.

01:26:25.980 No, there's not.

01:26:27.660 Well, where I'm from.

01:26:28.760 Um, I, I took a sex ed class fourth grade just because of puberty and I had one, one 0.57

01:26:34.660 semester of one in seventh grade, but my high school never taught it.

01:26:39.100 My, this middle schools I used to go to, they don't teach anymore.

01:26:42.500 I don't know anyone who's younger than me who gets taught sex ed anymore.

01:26:46.440 My son is 17 and he had no idea what that was.

01:26:49.580 He goes to a local high school and he's like, no, no, no one's teaching them condoms and STDs.

01:26:53.860 That's part of the general curriculum for most schools.

01:26:55.680 It definitely should be.

01:26:55.980 I think it's so, I think it's the area.

01:26:58.160 It's the areas.

01:26:58.660 It's the areas.

01:26:59.500 But also it's not like, you know, I've never really bought this.

01:27:02.820 The, the, there's not enough sexual education in schools. 1.00

01:27:06.140 There was a huge primary campaign run on that throughout the nineties and in the early two

01:27:10.360 thousands and it didn't do anything, nothing.

01:27:13.400 And here's the thing, convincing me that the average 13 to 15 year old doesn't know anything 0.99

01:27:18.180 about sex and modernity is fucking insane. 0.99

01:27:20.560 You're going to learn. 0.99

01:27:21.100 You're going to learn things.

01:27:21.520 You're going to learn.

01:27:22.560 You can Google things now.

01:27:23.880 I don't, I, I, with sex education and everything, it's like, you're not going to really understand

01:27:29.460 a lot of it until you experience it or make the mistakes and you won't even hear it anyway.

01:27:35.080 A lot of it too, like trauma, trauma has a lot to do with whether or not you're escaping

01:27:38.900 in sex and that it's at any age.

01:27:40.740 So, you know, you can tell someone all day long, you shouldn't do this.

01:27:44.100 You shouldn't do that.

01:27:45.000 But they're, they're going to, I think trauma is a cope.

01:27:47.860 I think that, so what I, here's what I think.

01:27:50.420 I think that a lot of women utilize the trauma excuse for their promiscuous past when they 1.00

01:27:54.920 really just wanted to get dicked down by a stud and they, what they do is they cope about

01:27:59.760 it and they're like, no, see the reason that I went down and got dicked down by so many

01:28:03.700 studs is because my trauma that happened when I was, when I was younger, this bad thing 1.00

01:28:08.860 happened to me and that's what made it so that all these handsome men just had to fuck 0.99

01:28:14.160 me, right? 1.00

01:28:14.720 Maybe the younger ones, the older ones are owning it. 0.71

01:28:17.260 So I, hang on.

01:28:17.760 So I hear that and I think to myself, ah, you know, maybe not, maybe it's not the fact 0.92

01:28:22.760 that you were traumatized, but the fact that you just wanted to have sex with a lot of good 0.96

01:28:27.840 looking guys.

01:28:28.320 I mean that, absolutely.

01:28:29.980 Of course.

01:28:31.140 That can be healing in ways.

01:28:32.560 Yeah.

01:28:33.000 I think so that like if a guy said like, oh, I just had a really bad breakup and she really

01:28:37.200 broke my heart and you know, like, oh, I'm back on the streets, you know, the boys would

01:28:41.140 be like, yeah, yeah, get back on the streets, you know, but like when women do that, like 1.00

01:28:44.380 you said, it's kind of where you really hurt like this, is that really a trauma response

01:28:49.300 or are you just being wow?

01:28:50.660 Well, what it is, yeah, it's coping.

01:28:52.340 What it is, is they're doing this, they're going, look, my dating chances drastically go

01:28:58.300 down because I've slept with like, and now the numbers are astronomical, like 50, 60,

01:29:03.600 70 guys, right?

01:29:05.320 I've slept with that many guys.

01:29:06.720 You have?

01:29:07.400 Wait.

01:29:07.840 When people realize that. 1.00

01:29:09.060 60, 70 shit. 1.00

01:29:10.340 I mean dudes. 1.00

01:29:10.980 Boy, you got me, Brian.

01:29:12.100 So, that's what they'll, that, yeah, that's what they'll say, right?

01:29:15.920 Yeah.

01:29:16.640 And so, if they do, right, their chances for having like the kind of more high status man,

01:29:22.060 especially in their 30s, is going to greatly decrease in comparison to women who haven't. 1.00

01:29:26.040 So, if that's the case, like, they have every reason to make an excuse to cope about

01:29:30.600 it, it's to be like, no, it's not my fault, it was some trauma that I had that got treated,

01:29:34.520 this type of thing.

01:29:35.180 Yes and no.

01:29:35.720 So, if you're still engaging in that behavior, so if there's a quality man who's healed and

01:29:39.700 he's ready for marriage and he's dating a woman who, obviously, you can tell if someone

01:29:43.440 still, like, doesn't love themselves and they're acting out and they're seeking love and validation

01:29:47.980 from other men, then sure, but if someone's healed.

01:29:50.020 I don't think men get healed. 0.97

01:29:51.240 I think they get, I think they get tired.

01:29:53.400 You can do it.

01:29:54.040 Yeah, I think they get tired.

01:29:54.900 I do, we do NLP and hypnotherapy with my guys. 1.00

01:29:57.580 Yeah, hypnotherapy's bullshit, by the way. 0.96

01:29:59.360 There's a little bit, all it is is hypnotherapy, all it is is that you go in and you can rewire 0.99

01:30:04.240 or reframe some memories so that you're not as freaking loaded by them.

01:30:07.680 It's the least scientific form of, especially any sort of hypnosis.

01:30:11.760 But it's kind of fun.

01:30:14.120 But the thing that's interesting about this is, like, they don't, it's not that men are

01:30:19.180 coping or get healed.

01:30:20.460 They're not healed.

01:30:21.620 They just get tired of it.

01:30:22.780 So, playing the field for men who can, right, it's fun for a little bit and they just get

01:30:27.400 sick of it.

01:30:27.900 And it's not that they're healed from, they weren't traumatized, right?

01:30:30.800 They're like, what are they traumatized from? 0.97

01:30:32.500 Oh, I had sex with a bunch of beautiful women. 1.00

01:30:34.380 Oh, my God, the trauma. 1.00

01:30:35.820 Oh, the trauma.

01:30:36.700 No, well, that's not where trauma comes from.

01:30:38.420 Of course they're not traumatized.

01:30:39.240 That's not trauma.

01:30:40.880 They're not traumatized by it at all.

01:30:42.200 They're sick of it, right?

01:30:43.480 And the same thing with women. 1.00

01:30:44.720 They do get, in some ways, traumatized by women. 1.00

01:30:47.100 But mostly, it's just they're sick of women's bullshit, right? 1.00

01:30:50.260 Well, sure. 1.00

01:30:50.720 But that's not trauma.

01:30:52.060 Well, what is trauma for them?

01:30:53.220 Trauma is when you're, like, if you're getting actually abused, beaten, hurt.

01:30:58.260 Like, I've had clients that were, like, for men, actually dated narcissistic women, which 0.93

01:31:02.860 is surprising.

01:31:04.360 Not surprising for me, but a lot of people don't realize that men can be in abusive relationships.

01:31:08.340 Of course.

01:31:08.760 Right?

01:31:09.080 Yeah, sure. 0.95

01:31:09.460 Psychologically abused, physically abused. 0.66

01:31:11.100 Yeah.

01:31:11.240 And they can hold those scars over.

01:31:12.480 They can go through terrible divorces. 0.85

01:31:13.500 But, no, dating a bunch of women and trauma. 0.99

01:31:15.420 Yeah.

01:31:15.820 But I'm talking, when I talk trauma, I mean that. 0.98

01:31:18.620 I don't mean the superficial coping shit. 0.98

01:31:20.700 I mean actual, like. 0.98

01:31:21.280 Yeah, but the amount of women who express that they've been traumatized, and then you 0.98

01:31:24.600 find out what they've been traumatized by is just the same rigmarole shit that most 0.99

01:31:29.260 every human being has to go through. 0.99

01:31:30.720 I'm like, that's not trauma.

01:31:32.220 Yeah.

01:31:32.440 That's cope.

01:31:33.220 Oh, yeah.

01:31:33.540 Because now, right now, with, you see, like, influencers right now.

01:31:36.360 I have such a grip with this one.

01:31:38.040 They take the word trauma.

01:31:39.760 They take the word narcissist.

01:31:40.560 They take the word, and they overuse it to the point where, when you are actually having

01:31:44.860 that, or having trauma, or having abuse, it's like it's gotten so blown out of proportion

01:31:49.140 that, you know, the people who actually do need help, or do actually have it.

01:31:52.020 Well, actual narcissists are rare.

01:31:53.880 And so, what's happened is, every woman on planet Earth thinks she's a psychologist. 0.98

01:31:58.800 I have no idea why, but they read something online about narcissistic tendencies and traits

01:32:03.780 and don't realize how common the miscalculation between confidence and narcissism is.

01:32:08.840 Oh, that was a confident man who was assertive and aggressive in his boundaries. 1.00

01:32:12.560 I don't like that, so he's a fucking narcissist. 1.00

01:32:15.080 He's a narcissist. 1.00

01:32:15.120 It's like, no, that's not a narcissist. 0.65

01:32:16.980 Correct.

01:32:17.400 Yeah.

01:32:17.720 So, that's a very common female cope. 1.00

01:32:20.000 Yeah.

01:32:20.280 I think that'll change when we have more females talking to other females about that one. 1.00

01:32:26.180 Like, no, you can't say that, Becky.

01:32:28.720 That's what I don't understand.

01:32:28.840 How would that be the case when, like, the whole field of psychology is completely inundated

01:32:34.240 with women.

01:32:35.200 It's, like, saturated with them.

01:32:37.460 And they mostly treat women. 0.55

01:32:39.620 Men don't usually seek psychological help because they have the boys.

01:32:43.200 Yeah.

01:32:43.480 They go out with the boys.

01:32:44.500 They grab the drinks.

01:32:45.800 Right?

01:32:46.160 They do that stuff.

01:32:47.100 Yeah.

01:32:47.380 They're not grabbing many female coaches either. 1.00

01:32:49.160 They're grabbing their buddies.

01:32:50.980 They're grabbing their pals.

01:32:52.040 They're grabbing their groups.

01:32:53.120 Maybe they might not tell you.

01:32:54.780 No, most men are not.

01:32:55.900 I've never heard of them.

01:32:56.260 I mean, most men by the numbers. 0.51

01:32:57.260 Oh, yeah.

01:32:57.480 There's a lot.

01:32:58.380 Just like most men by the numbers. 0.96

01:32:59.560 I do boot camps all over the world.

01:33:01.080 Sure.

01:33:01.440 With men.

01:33:02.260 With men.

01:33:02.740 What I'm saying is that they're not going to female psychologists.

01:33:05.320 They're not even really going to male psychologists.

01:33:06.160 No, but that's why I'm saying I'm not a psychologist.

01:33:08.060 They have that, like, nice little, I'm a coach.

01:33:10.220 So, for me, if they're coming to me, it feels a little bit less like, oh, I'm not going

01:33:14.060 to someone because I'm messed up.

01:33:15.340 I'm not going to a psychologist.

01:33:16.700 Although, I do encourage it.

01:33:18.100 I think there's, talk therapy doesn't help with certain things, but it's great to talk

01:33:22.240 things out.

01:33:22.740 But there's different modalities of, like, CBT or EMDR or, you know, whatever it is.

01:33:27.880 So, yeah.

01:33:28.680 I think most women seek out psychological assistance from psychologists. 0.96

01:33:31.920 So that they can learn various forms of manipulation in order to manipulate whoever it is they're

01:33:36.660 trying to manipulate.

01:33:37.480 And they want the assistance from somebody who's a professional at it.

01:33:39.940 Yeah.

01:33:40.200 Weaponizing.

01:33:40.660 So, it's weaponizing therapy talk.

01:33:42.120 Right.

01:33:42.400 We have men that do that.

01:33:43.420 But anyone.

01:33:43.980 Anyone who's traumatized who's not really, or an a-hole or whatever, who's not willing

01:33:47.480 to take a hard look at themselves.

01:33:48.880 Oh, they're going to go in there.

01:33:50.060 They're going to use that.

01:33:50.700 I look at the numbers, though.

01:33:51.480 And I look at the numbers of women who seek psychologists versus men.

01:33:54.260 It's overwhelmingly women. 1.00

01:33:55.480 Yeah.

01:33:55.640 And it's overwhelmingly women in the field. 1.00

01:33:57.660 Sure.

01:33:58.080 So, can you always make the case, oh, the other sex also engages in that? 0.93

01:34:01.100 It's like, yeah.

01:34:01.760 But to the degree of it, it's not even close.

01:34:03.540 Yeah.

01:34:03.660 Unless they Google it.

01:34:04.660 You can Google all day long and not have to go to someone and spend money and $300 a

01:34:10.040 pop to go to a psychologist to learn the jargon.

01:34:12.540 You can just Google it online.

01:34:14.060 It's true.

01:34:14.320 It's everywhere on Instagram.

01:34:16.060 You know it.

01:34:16.340 Well, psychology is a study of the mind.

01:34:18.200 Right?

01:34:18.480 Yeah.

01:34:18.640 I've never even considered, I don't consider it even scientific.

01:34:21.640 I never have.

01:34:22.400 They have scientific elements for data gathering and things like this.

01:34:25.560 Sure.

01:34:25.980 But it's not itself a science.

01:34:27.300 That's why it's considered a soft science.

01:34:29.280 Soft science.

01:34:29.980 Yeah.

01:34:30.800 I mean, I would just consider it not science.

01:34:32.860 They learn more and more.

01:34:34.960 It's nice that it grows.

01:34:36.220 I mean, I remember back in the day when I was in psychology courses and we thought back then

01:34:39.760 that you only use 10% of your brain.

01:34:42.000 And I mean, that's what we learned back then.

01:34:43.820 They didn't know.

01:34:44.580 And there's so much more.

01:34:45.860 It's just a growing thing.

01:34:46.300 Well, that's because what happens is a sociological study will come out that has no reputations

01:34:50.840 to it, has not been replicated.

01:34:52.300 But because it's the most modern study, everyone will reference it as though it's gospel.

01:34:57.360 Within two years, the reputation comes out.

01:34:59.200 But what?

01:34:59.600 Everybody inside their mind, they already have this bad information, right?

01:35:03.240 Right.

01:35:03.640 Yeah.

01:35:03.800 Oh, exactly.

01:35:04.300 They already have the bad information.

01:35:05.260 I still hear people say we only use 10% of our brain.

01:35:08.060 Oh, you do?

01:35:08.200 I still hear people say that left-handed people are more creative.

01:35:11.020 I still hear people say that people with blue eyes are generally taller.

01:35:14.820 I see people say all sorts. 1.00

01:35:16.760 I see people say all kinds of crazy shit, right? 0.99

01:35:21.000 That has been refuted, repudiated, completely decimated for years and years and years. 0.99

01:35:25.020 But because it's allowed to permeate within the decade of reason that these people are

01:35:30.020 in, they hear it.

01:35:31.360 It sticks.

01:35:32.300 They're not looking for reputations years later.

01:35:34.160 That's the problem with psychology.

01:35:36.380 It's a complete building block of lies.

01:35:38.920 Psychology, but that's the thing, is that psychology isn't that building block of lies.

01:35:42.100 It's the fact that you can take a zoom out and look at the fact that that's a pattern.

01:35:45.000 We talked about patterns earlier.

01:35:46.620 Patterns do, I do agree.

01:35:48.000 Patterns actually repeat.

01:35:49.280 It's what human behavior doesn't necessarily change.

01:35:52.400 Our circumstances might or the way things look might change, but there's a pattern to

01:35:56.540 that.

01:35:56.700 So over the years, every decade has some sort of bad information that gets caught up with.

01:36:01.860 But it's way worse in sociology and psychology.

01:36:04.100 You're talking 60, 70% of the studies suffer from the replication crisis.

01:36:07.720 All science suffers from the replication crisis.

01:36:09.640 The hard sciences, very low.

01:36:12.380 When you go back to replicate a chemistry experiment, really easy.

01:36:17.760 You take this chemical, this chemical, this chemical, you put it in the same conditions,

01:36:20.800 right?

01:36:21.020 The human element is very confounding, especially when you're not studying the direct biological.

01:36:25.560 So they go out to replicate the sociological studies like 70%.

01:36:29.300 In Canada, it's worse.

01:36:30.280 Canada, it was worse.

01:36:31.140 It was like 80% plus.

01:36:32.740 They couldn't replicate the studies if they got the same participants, the same scientists,

01:36:37.600 and the same control conditions.

01:36:40.920 So it's like, why the fuck would I ever trust any science that's 80% wrong or 70% wrong 0.80

01:36:45.520 or 60% wrong? 0.96

01:36:46.820 I don't know.

01:36:47.440 I do that too because I remember people were talking about Freud for a long time. 0.99

01:36:52.280 I was fucking nuts. 0.98

01:36:53.940 I hated it. 1.00

01:36:54.480 But wait a second.

01:36:55.560 He made psychotherapy and he did a lot of hypnotherapy.

01:36:58.500 He did.

01:36:58.840 He did.

01:36:59.140 He did.

01:36:59.380 We took a lot of that.

01:37:00.380 And hopefully you grow.

01:37:01.540 Hopefully you learn.

01:37:02.340 The one thing that I like about it is like, hopefully you can take a mistake and learn

01:37:05.120 from it and grow from it and do better.

01:37:06.600 But I mean, there's some cool elements.

01:37:08.280 Take what you like.

01:37:09.160 Discard the rest.

01:37:10.180 You know?

01:37:10.820 I mean, that's about it.

01:37:12.160 I think it goes back to control.

01:37:13.820 Because like what we were talking about with the body count thing and even this, like,

01:37:18.620 it's unpredictable.

01:37:19.560 You can't quantify it.

01:37:20.720 You can't hypnotize it.

01:37:22.600 Like, we keep trying to put these calculable elements on dating and love.

01:37:28.440 And like my mindset on it all is not.

01:37:30.600 Like, it doesn't matter how many people you've had sex with.

01:37:33.780 It doesn't matter.

01:37:34.540 I won't say your trauma.

01:37:35.440 But like, we're trying to calculate the human experience, especially relationship-wise.

01:37:41.220 And it's incalculable.

01:37:42.480 Like, you don't wake up and you say, I'm going to eat eggs.

01:37:45.380 And I'm going to eat eggs every day for the rest of my life.

01:37:47.280 And I'm going to have a pizza.

01:37:48.300 And I'm going to be bad if I have pizza.

01:37:49.840 You know? 0.99

01:37:50.080 Like, your genitals are not one-time use. 0.99

01:37:53.720 Because if that was the case, the first person you linked it with or had sex with, you would 0.99

01:37:57.760 only be able to orgasm with them. 0.98

01:37:59.340 You would only be able to procreate with them. 0.90

01:38:00.880 Like, we have multi-use organs, but we try to make them single-use or monogamous. 0.69

01:38:08.180 And that's cool if you find that.

01:38:09.760 But I just feel like, biologically speaking, we're not even biologically set up for monogamy.

01:38:15.460 Yeah, but if you can do a thing, it doesn't mean you should do a thing.

01:38:18.620 Yeah, I mean, and that's very circumstantial.

01:38:19.680 And not only that, like, I think that you would even agree that not really, like, there's

01:38:24.600 a lot of calculable risks that you intuitively know.

01:38:27.300 Like, you've heard this advice from your parents, for instance, right?

01:38:29.920 Like, don't date someone who treats you bad.

01:38:31.980 Something simple, right?

01:38:33.160 Yeah, sure.

01:38:33.480 Or you'd be looking for patterns for bad, bad treatment, right?

01:38:36.660 So there's, like, no way around pattern recognition, especially when it comes to dating and things

01:38:40.720 like this, so that you can mitigate risk.

01:38:42.660 You go, oh, you're treating me bad.

01:38:44.520 Don't be with a person who treats you bad, right?

01:38:46.320 Yeah, right?

01:38:47.240 That's calculating risk.

01:38:49.440 Quick thing here.

01:38:51.220 We have two champagne pops.

01:38:54.200 Jeez.

01:38:55.980 From Jungle.

01:38:57.060 I'm actually sober.

01:38:57.880 Do you know what?

01:38:58.040 Do you know what?

01:38:58.900 Yeah.

01:38:59.120 Pop champagne.

01:39:02.720 Get another one, Brian.

01:39:04.380 And Andrew was just a light jokey joke.

01:39:07.080 They all good.

01:39:08.160 No, he's good.

01:39:08.460 Bubba Jake is keeping it classic for the crew.

01:39:12.160 Jungle, Jungle.

01:39:13.160 Okay, so Brian moderately questioned your integrity briefly, but I did explain to him that your

01:39:21.700 integrity is not to be questioned.

01:39:23.680 Well, if we get, like, crazy, first off, if it's legit, and I'm assuming it's legit.

01:39:29.800 It's legit. 0.99

01:39:31.080 Then that's, this guy's a fucking legend. 0.99

01:39:34.160 Thank you, Jungle. 0.99

01:39:35.060 I'll just, we gotta be careful.

01:39:36.340 Somebody's, like, they could just, like, try to screw us over and just be, like, do a credit

01:39:41.020 card dispute or something, but, um.

01:39:42.300 Except that that guy sent, like, $20,000 to the cruise pool and never disputed a single

01:39:46.240 thing ever.

01:39:47.340 Yeah.

01:39:47.860 Sweet.

01:39:48.140 So, so, so, so, so, so, like, the little faith in my, my boy, Jungle.

01:39:51.100 No, yeah, I just wanted to clear that up.

01:39:52.920 That's wonderful.

01:39:53.500 That's why I was asking. 0.98

01:39:54.120 But, yo, Jungle, you're fucking legend, and we're about to pop, I, I had to have my, my 0.98

01:39:58.200 girl, because we're, we're actually out of Champagne. 0.99

01:40:00.240 You, you tapped us, Jungle. 0.99

01:40:02.040 But, so she had to go down, she had to go get some more Champagne, and by the way, so

01:40:05.520 he did, too.

01:40:09.060 Jungle donated $1,000.

01:40:11.640 What a legend.

01:40:12.160 Pop Champagne.

01:40:12.940 Thank you, man.

01:40:13.540 Wow.

01:40:13.740 Keep them coming, Brian.

01:40:15.340 Papa Jake is keeping it lights and classic.

01:40:18.180 We good in the hood.

01:40:19.320 Oh, it's one of these weird.

01:40:22.940 Not one step back.

01:40:24.480 And one SB.

01:40:25.320 Oh, no.

01:40:25.880 It's one of these weird ones.

01:40:27.140 This is a good time for me to get a smoke.

01:40:29.240 All right.

01:40:30.020 Yo, Jungle, you're a legend.

01:40:32.080 Yep.

01:40:32.280 You're a legend.

01:40:33.300 All right.

01:40:33.700 Thank you, Jungle.

01:40:34.400 Appreciate it, man.

01:40:35.160 I'm in the crosshairs. 0.99

01:40:35.780 By the way, Jungle, if you want to do some, some fucking top G, Giga Chad shit, by the 0.99

01:40:41.360 way, join our Discord. 0.99

01:40:42.640 When you do Champagne Pop, you get a free legendary role on the, whatever, Discord.

01:40:47.480 That's discord.gg slash whatever.

01:40:50.240 We have crypto options.

01:40:51.940 I don't know if you're a crypto guy.

01:40:52.780 We have Ethereum.

01:40:53.320 We have Crystall, which is, let's see if I can show it here.

01:40:59.120 Oh, is it not on the, oh, here it is.

01:41:01.900 This is a ball of, empty ball of Crystall.

01:41:06.760 And you can, for one Ethereum, we'll pop a ball of Crystall, which is, it's like a $500

01:41:12.700 bottle.

01:41:13.300 So, very nice ball of champagne.

01:41:14.560 And so, we have those.

01:41:16.060 All right. 0.98

01:41:17.660 While I'm getting this popped, while I'm trying to, oh, shit, don't want to get this popped. 0.96

01:41:22.300 While I'm getting this popped, Felicity, go ahead. 0.93

01:41:26.620 Take over.

01:41:30.000 All right.

01:41:32.440 You got this, Felicity.

01:41:33.580 We believe in you.

01:41:34.940 Oh, my God.

01:41:36.340 Oh, is this just?

01:41:38.040 Oh, that makes me nervous.

01:41:39.700 Oh, God.

01:41:40.440 Wait.

01:41:42.140 Hold on.

01:41:42.580 How old are you, Felicity?

01:41:47.600 I'm 19.

01:41:48.580 Oh, my God.

01:41:49.840 Okay.

01:41:50.400 How old did you think I was?

01:41:51.820 I mean, in your 20s, at least, you know, you look very mature.

01:41:55.080 You're closer to my son's age than mine.

01:41:57.220 I get, like, mixed, mixed opinions.

01:42:00.580 Like, some people think I look really young.

01:42:01.840 Some people think I'm, like, 24.

01:42:03.460 I'm like, I'm not 24.

01:42:04.320 I just turned 19, like, not even a month ago.

01:42:06.500 Happy birthday.

01:42:07.520 Thanks.

01:42:08.260 So, does body count still matter for, like, your age group?

01:42:11.400 Because I'm old, so man.

01:42:13.020 I know, right?

01:42:13.720 But then again, as we get older, we don't care.

01:42:15.820 Even the guy, I got to say this.

01:42:17.060 The guys that I coach, honestly, once they start healing and stuff, they literally don't

01:42:20.820 give a, they don't care.

01:42:22.140 There's some people that will, I'm sure.

01:42:24.120 Of course.

01:42:24.720 And there's some people that will.

01:42:25.860 But there's, sometimes it's just, you just, you care about more about the person.

01:42:31.240 Yeah.

01:42:31.600 I've honestly never encountered someone who was like, oh, I have an issue with body count.

01:42:35.180 Now, I don't date very often.

01:42:36.460 I do.

01:42:37.400 I have not.

01:42:38.080 I would prefer someone to have, like, the same body count as me if I'm going to date

01:42:41.700 them seriously.

01:42:42.520 Well, you're younger, too.

01:42:43.700 I can't imagine a 19-year-old being like, I've had 500 women. 1.00

01:42:47.500 You're like, in what time?

01:42:48.780 Right.

01:42:49.160 In what time?

01:42:50.240 Are you going to school?

01:42:51.760 Yeah.

01:42:52.040 Do you have hobbies?

01:42:53.540 If you're dating, like, an older person who had, like, three times your body count,

01:42:57.240 I could see how that would be awkward.

01:42:57.940 Like that, I would understand more, like, if I was dating someone that was a few years

01:43:00.860 older than me, I'd understand if they had a lot more.

01:43:02.240 Right.

01:43:02.420 But, um...

01:43:03.420 Perspective.

01:43:04.700 Yeah.

01:43:05.540 I'll have a lot.

01:43:07.140 Okay.

01:43:07.500 Thank you for that answer, though.

01:43:08.920 That's, yeah.

01:43:09.760 You'll have some?

01:43:10.400 I'll have some.

01:43:10.940 So, what are the age demographics for, like, most of your clients?

01:43:14.540 Because I have two boys, and once I get married, we'll have eight boys in between the two of

01:43:19.060 us.

01:43:19.740 So, just, like, as a future husband-mom, you know, moms, like, what are the age groups

01:43:25.320 of clients that you...

01:43:26.160 For me?

01:43:26.620 Yeah.

01:43:26.840 I coach anywhere from 18 to, uh, I have a client, uh, in his 80s, mid-80s.

01:43:31.840 Wow.

01:43:32.340 I have a couple, actually, I have a few clients in their mid-80s.

01:43:34.560 Oh, my goodness.

01:43:35.020 Yeah, like, I've never heard of, um, a coach that handles that kind of thing.

01:43:39.120 Honestly, I didn't either.

01:43:40.540 I didn't really know about it.

01:43:41.880 I knew about Tony Robbins, but I didn't know that I, that this kind of thing existed.

01:43:46.480 I knew about pick-up artists a little bit, um, but, no, I got sober eight years ago today,

01:43:52.560 actually.

01:43:53.060 Today's my eighth year sobriety date.

01:43:54.800 Congratulations.

01:43:55.340 Thank you.

01:43:55.680 So, I just, like, took a cake for eight years and then came here.

01:43:58.480 What, what was your poison?

01:44:00.220 Uh, uh, alcohol and cocaine.

01:44:02.400 Eight, and then pretty much whatever anyone had in their hand.

01:44:04.520 It really wasn't, I was like, that, whatever, put it in me.

01:44:08.880 Um, but then, uh, I was doing odd jobs.

01:44:12.620 I had a great resume, but I was just, I had to heal so much.

01:44:16.260 And then, eventually, um, I was debating on going back to getting my, um, master's and

01:44:21.100 PhD, um, but it just, I didn't like the idea of being in school for that long.

01:44:26.140 Um, and so I just waited and then I had a friend of mine call and she was like, hey,

01:44:29.560 we've got a friend.

01:44:30.240 She's a dating coach for men. 0.99

01:44:31.280 I think you guys would be a great fit.

01:44:32.380 Cause I was always helping people.

01:44:33.680 I was always helping men.

01:44:34.700 I was always guiding.

01:44:35.400 I was always giving advice.

01:44:36.240 Right.

01:44:36.660 Yeah.

01:44:36.900 And then all of a sudden it was like, oh my God, this is a thing.

01:44:39.760 And then honestly, when I started coaching is when I started really taking a better look

01:44:44.260 at myself and taking massive accountability.

01:44:46.960 I learned so much by coaching men.

01:44:49.420 I was like, whoa, we're a lot more similar than I thought.

01:44:51.940 And then I want to continue my education and doing like NLP and all that.

01:44:55.360 Yeah.

01:44:55.480 Can I tell you that I'm always, I'll just be honest with you.

01:44:58.440 I'm always skeptical of dating coaches.

01:45:00.460 Me too.

01:45:01.100 Are you kidding? 1.00

01:45:01.760 So they suck. 1.00

01:45:04.080 A lot of them. 1.00

01:45:04.980 Sorry.

01:45:05.280 There's a lot of great ones.

01:45:06.180 So if I was, let's say I woke up tomorrow, right?

01:45:08.660 Meteorite hit my house and went through the wife.

01:45:11.480 She's dead.

01:45:12.140 Right.

01:45:12.340 I'm single with my kids tomorrow. 0.99

01:45:13.980 I wouldn't have a fucking clue about the modern dating market. 0.99

01:45:17.760 And I wouldn't give a shit. 1.00

01:45:18.700 I would literally give up. 0.99

01:45:20.120 I'm fine with that.

01:45:21.360 Yeah. 0.94

01:45:21.680 The rest of my life in isolation on a mountain top somewhere and just enjoy the shit out of 0.96

01:45:26.140 it. 0.97

01:45:26.360 I'm fine with that.

01:45:27.140 Honestly, sounds great.

01:45:28.000 But here's the thing is like when I, when I talk to the dating coach,

01:45:34.020 it seems very scammy to me.

01:45:36.840 Yes.

01:45:37.180 It seems very much like, uh, they fluff their resume for how many success stories they've

01:45:42.640 really had.

01:45:43.200 It seems like they kind of fluff their experiences.

01:45:45.780 And here's what I mean by this.

01:45:47.420 My dad gave me a great piece of advice when I was 14 years old.

01:45:50.620 He said, never take financial advice from someone who's broke.

01:45:54.000 Right.

01:45:54.840 So if you're talking about dating coaches, should people take advice from single dating coaches?

01:46:00.900 Yeah.

01:46:01.320 It's dating.

01:46:01.880 I'm dating.

01:46:02.320 I'm in the pool, but I also have,

01:46:04.020 amazing relationships.

01:46:04.940 I get that.

01:46:05.460 But like, doesn't that follow the same logic of like, don't take financial advice from

01:46:09.660 people who aren't rich.

01:46:12.000 But you, you answered it.

01:46:13.520 It would, you take dating advice from someone who's dating, you know, who's in it, who sees

01:46:17.800 it, but who's also had, but also you're someone that discerns, like you're someone

01:46:21.740 that like for you personally, you might not need it because you're reading people.

01:46:25.860 You're, you are an analyst.

01:46:27.240 You're not going to be as, as the marriage, like the marriage aspect shows that you were

01:46:31.020 successful in the dating.

01:46:32.220 Right.

01:46:32.680 Oh yeah.

01:46:33.140 I do.

01:46:33.500 I mean, yeah.

01:46:33.820 My, that shows like I was just like the million dollars shows that you were successful in

01:46:38.440 the financial markets.

01:46:39.500 Yeah.

01:46:39.760 It's like when you say, well, I'm in the dating market, I'm successful at dating.

01:46:43.140 It's like, yeah.

01:46:44.020 What's the prize of dating though?

01:46:45.440 Isn't it marriage generally be the prize? 0.93

01:46:48.220 Well, what happens with a lot of them is, um, and I get this a lot, so I'll have a program

01:46:52.020 that's called from like toxic to triumph and I do career as well too.

01:46:54.900 Like I do have multiple careers and I, I, I have success in there.

01:46:58.180 So I do get to pass that on.

01:46:59.180 Um, but the main thing is also like what I help a lot with is stop dating the toxic ones,

01:47:05.560 the ones that you actually don't like, you know?

01:47:07.460 So like all of them.

01:47:08.740 Yeah.

01:47:09.060 Right.

01:47:09.280 So a lot of them stay single for a while now.

01:47:13.020 I like a financial advisor for love and relationships.

01:47:16.800 And we do career as well too.

01:47:18.160 We do.

01:47:18.640 I get to unblock in, in, in there on.

01:47:21.520 Like, so I, I read, and again, this is my studies, right?

01:47:24.920 So you take it with a grain of salt as well.

01:47:27.300 You should.

01:47:28.520 But, uh, some, some, some data is better than others, uh, that you can judge better than

01:47:33.760 others.

01:47:34.000 Like if it comes from a dating website, it's usually fairly good.

01:47:37.160 It's not great, but it's usually fairly good.

01:47:38.860 There's less bias, things like this.

01:47:40.960 Um, but one thing is like, there used to be dating placement agencies.

01:47:45.620 And so what they would do, and there's, they still exist.

01:47:48.500 Yeah.

01:47:48.760 They still exist.

01:47:49.360 Yeah.

01:47:49.580 Yeah.

01:47:49.660 Is that they would just like link people up for dates.

01:47:52.040 Right.

01:47:52.480 And then, you know, let the chips fall where they may.

01:47:55.120 When it came to the track record of those agencies versus straight dating coaches, those

01:47:59.720 agencies had a way better track record because what they were doing is putting people with

01:48:04.980 people, with people, with people.

01:48:06.380 And it's like, it's, it's the natural course that if you run into more people, your chances

01:48:11.220 for success increase versus decrease.

01:48:13.800 Right.

01:48:14.260 So they come to me when they go to those pools, but they keep picking the ones that don't work

01:48:19.200 out.

01:48:19.580 Then we find out why you're picking, you know, this person over here versus if you actually

01:48:24.720 want a quality woman who you're aligned with, who you would get married to, but yet you keep 0.97

01:48:28.660 dating the ones that are, you know, having good times with the Island boys.

01:48:32.360 Like what, why do you keep getting around those?

01:48:34.520 So we identify, why are you around those women that are in those parties versus if you want

01:48:39.600 a quality woman, where would you go? 1.00

01:48:40.880 And then I could point them back to like, well, go to this dating pool or go to this

01:48:44.420 one or do this one or tweak your bio this way.

01:48:46.480 You know, men or women are better at dating coaching for men. 0.85

01:48:50.320 I think both.

01:48:51.740 Honestly, I think as long as you, you know what you're doing and you care.

01:48:54.420 Cause I, I, I, women would be better dating coaches for women. 1.00

01:48:58.100 I, again, I mean, for, all right, look for me personally, if, if, if it's a guy and he's

01:49:07.020 wanting advice on a woman, you're going to, you're, we read, we read women a little bit

01:49:11.200 faster, but for me, like there are a couple of my girlfriends that I'll go to cause they, 1.00

01:49:15.640 they, they speak dude and I'm, I'll go to them.

01:49:18.000 They gave it to me straight.

01:49:18.860 There's no fluff, but if I'm dating someone or if I have questions about it, cause I have

01:49:22.120 my own blind sides, right?

01:49:23.360 I have my own like things that'll come up.

01:49:25.780 I'm going to go to a guy cause guys, you guys do read men a lot faster.

01:49:29.460 You think it, you get it, you are in it.

01:49:31.040 So I typically, I do like that, but I'll, I'll go to both and hear like what they both

01:49:37.060 have to say.

01:49:38.220 So, I mean, it would stand, it stands, so it stands to reason to you that men know men

01:49:41.400 better, women know women better. 1.00

01:49:43.020 Yeah.

01:49:43.500 I can't say that like as a complete thing.

01:49:45.840 Cause you, you know, you can, you can, you know, you can read women and there's women 1.00

01:49:49.000 that can read men. 0.94

01:49:49.640 There's an interesting phenomenon here.

01:49:50.940 That's interesting, right?

01:49:51.700 Yeah.

01:49:51.940 This is why I asked.

01:49:53.000 Yeah.

01:49:53.460 What are you setting me up for?

01:49:54.760 Well, I'm not even setting me up.

01:49:55.980 It's just, it's just, this, this is a trend that's, that I see a lot.

01:50:00.000 If I ask a female dating coach and they answer both ways, right? 1.00

01:50:03.840 Usually female dating coaches will actually say women are just better to go to period when 1.00

01:50:08.260 it comes to dating coaching, because you know, the advice for women, it's better. 0.80

01:50:12.880 And then the advice you get from men, they don't, you know, it's not as good, right?

01:50:16.840 They'll, they'll just kind of phrase it this way.

01:50:18.820 Yeah.

01:50:19.140 Now there's some who like you will say, well, you should go to, to men.

01:50:23.760 Yeah.

01:50:24.180 If you're a woman, because they're going to read men better, or you should go to a woman 1.00

01:50:27.800 if you're a man, cause they're going to read women better. 1.00

01:50:30.620 Right. 0.94

01:50:30.880 But here's the problem that comes up is that women are way worse at holding elongated relationships 1.00

01:50:36.620 with each other than men are with each other.

01:50:39.400 With friendships?

01:50:40.420 Friendships.

01:50:41.000 What does that have to do with relationships?

01:50:42.360 Well, that's what's interesting, right?

01:50:43.740 Yeah.

01:50:43.840 It's like everything, all of these aspects are interpersonal.

01:50:47.300 So it just means interpersonal dynamics, right?

01:50:49.440 Correct.

01:50:49.540 Yeah.

01:50:49.920 I love that.

01:50:50.500 So a friendship is still, it's an interpersonal dynamic.

01:50:53.660 Yeah.

01:50:53.800 Friendships actually take, in some cases, more work than, than a relationship.

01:50:58.900 My longest right now, I just messaged with her over 20 years.

01:51:02.000 Right.

01:51:02.420 But what I'm saying is like men.

01:51:03.700 I agree with that.

01:51:04.460 I think that you should look at who, what are your relationships.

01:51:06.460 But if men do generally better in interpersonal relationships than women do, shouldn't men 1.00

01:51:10.340 and women both go to men for relationship advice? 0.81

01:51:13.220 I think it just depends on the person.

01:51:14.240 There are better interpersonal relationships with women and men for friendship.

01:51:17.260 I mean, we're not going to go down on the street and just grab any man and be like,

01:51:19.760 help me with my dating advice.

01:51:21.400 Like, I think it just depends on, you know, if the guy, if the guy is good, he's good.

01:51:25.000 If the girl's good, she's good.

01:51:26.480 You know?

01:51:26.960 Yeah.

01:51:27.080 But again, you're going to be able to read them and just read them and hopefully they're 0.98

01:51:30.080 not full of crap. 0.95

01:51:31.400 I go to my girlfriends, you know, my friends who are female for more emotional, you know, like 1.00

01:51:37.980 social advice, you know, not that we are not intellectual because duh, we are.

01:51:42.480 But if I was having a relationship issue, especially since I date girls mostly, then I would maybe

01:51:48.060 go to like guy friends or something like that for more like analytical advice.

01:51:52.740 Like, I feel like y'all see it from that more, you said primal earlier.

01:51:57.920 I'm going to use that phrase, but cause it kind of fits, but not really.

01:52:00.920 But I feel like men see the world and women and relationships for more of that, like primal

01:52:06.980 thing, like how do I made, how do I, you know, provide those things.

01:52:11.000 And then women see it more from like that emotional, like, you know, how do I make sure 0.98

01:52:15.660 I have a loving partner?

01:52:16.700 How do I find a supporting partner?

01:52:18.220 Things like that.

01:52:18.960 So I think again, we just go, for me, it goes back to love and dating is uncalculable.

01:52:25.060 So I think, I think that one of the best pieces of advice is in modernity for men, right?

01:52:30.520 And you can, you can love this or hate this is that generally speaking, taking advice

01:52:35.900 from women about anything is a terrible idea. 1.00

01:52:38.960 Basically always a terrible idea.

01:52:41.720 And it's almost, what women are you around? 1.00

01:52:43.920 Who hurt you?

01:52:45.300 See what I mean?

01:52:46.220 Like that, like the, the feminist comes out right away, right? 1.00

01:52:49.080 So who hurt you?

01:52:49.940 The idea, the idea of who hurt you comes down to your blanket idea, your psychological training

01:52:55.180 of trauma, right?

01:52:56.240 You might, you assume that there must be some trauma.

01:52:58.300 There's not trauma, it's just pattern recognition, right?

01:53:01.120 No, but it'd be your pattern recognition.

01:53:03.140 Everyone's got a different pattern.

01:53:04.300 Yeah, but here's the thing, right?

01:53:05.080 Because you do have a lot of guys that like, if they grew up with a lot of women, then they

01:53:08.480 actually do tend to go towards more women. 0.96

01:53:10.340 And if they had like, if they had bad, right, but if they had a bad relationship, like I

01:53:14.300 have a lot of guys that, um, if they had abuse from men or bullying from men, they actually

01:53:18.720 don't trust the men.

01:53:19.380 You go immediately to a trauma analysis rather than a logical analysis.

01:53:22.240 That would be logical.

01:53:23.080 That would be logic.

01:53:24.240 No.

01:53:24.640 Logic one plus one equals two.

01:53:25.780 If my friend group of men is mean and I go to them and they give me bad advice, then

01:53:30.620 I'm not going to go to them.

01:53:31.500 That's logic.

01:53:32.040 That's one plus one equals two.

01:53:33.160 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:33.340 No, well, hang on.

01:53:35.000 There's a distinction.

01:53:35.860 When you use a analysis, a trauma analysis, meaning the first, the very first thing you

01:53:41.940 said to me is, who hurt you?

01:53:44.380 Well, it's not the first thing.

01:53:45.180 I think we've already, I now we're in.

01:53:46.360 The second I said something, the second I said something you disagree with, it was who

01:53:49.620 hurt.

01:53:49.920 Now you'll find this trend with women, right? 0.98

01:53:52.380 The second you say you make a claim that they think is effective women as a category,

01:53:57.980 instant trauma response.

01:53:59.140 Must be trauma.

01:53:59.920 Who hurt you?

01:54:00.820 What happened to you?

01:54:02.140 Emotional.

01:54:02.860 What is this thing that, uh, that triggered this?

01:54:05.580 Right.

01:54:05.740 And it's like, actually, there doesn't always have to be a thing.

01:54:08.380 In fact, there most, most often isn't.

01:54:10.200 You can just use logic and reason to assess the situations around you based around the 0.99

01:54:14.440 social relationships people have and determine that women usually give really fucking bad 1.00

01:54:18.900 advice, especially to each other, especially to each other. 0.98

01:54:23.080 Uh, but men generally speaking, especially older men tend to give really good advice and

01:54:27.200 they usually tend to solicit it, right?

01:54:29.020 Only when you're asked them for it.

01:54:30.660 And it's usually pretty good.

01:54:32.260 Women often will give advice. 1.00

01:54:33.980 Nobody fucking asked for, right? 0.99

01:54:35.740 Nobody asked for it. 0.99

01:54:36.860 They don't care about it, but they can't wait to give it to you.

01:54:39.420 So it's like, um, what I see with the pattern is that generally speaking, women give terrible 1.00

01:54:43.700 advice to women and men and men tend to give, especially if they're older men, fairly good

01:54:48.160 advice to the people who ask them for advice.

01:54:50.320 That's just what I see as a trend.

01:54:51.760 So if I see that as a trend, of course, my logical brain says most men and women probably

01:54:57.920 shouldn't go towards women for, for advice. 0.92

01:55:00.780 They probably just shouldn't do that.

01:55:02.080 It's probably not a good idea.

01:55:03.420 I'm going to let you guys respond.

01:55:04.560 I'm going to let you guys respond, but we have a, another champagne pop and we still

01:55:09.360 need to do a cheers. 1.00

01:55:13.680 Jungle donated $1,000 pop champagne.

01:55:18.340 Brian, IDM you on it.

01:55:20.120 I let the air out.

01:55:20.620 Nothing to worry about.

01:55:22.300 The air got let out.

01:55:23.380 It was into a pop.

01:55:23.980 Can someone make a popping?

01:55:25.180 No pineapples.

01:55:25.800 So that, that, that wasn't a champagne pop.

01:55:28.880 It was, it was a champagne.

01:55:30.200 It was a champagne gust.

01:55:31.420 It was a gust.

01:55:32.180 It was a champagne gust.

01:55:33.000 It was a gust.

01:55:33.320 Yes.

01:55:33.480 Uh, so, uh, there's multiple, so we need to do three cheers, I think.

01:55:38.280 Right?

01:55:39.280 We need to do three.

01:55:41.000 All right.

01:55:41.900 Um, so, uh, we're going to double fist this.

01:55:44.700 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:55:44.720 The ladies on the panel here. 1.00

01:55:46.380 How's your guys' singing voices?

01:55:48.380 Singing?

01:55:48.600 I'm a good singer.

01:55:49.160 Okay.

01:55:49.400 You're a good singer?

01:55:50.120 You're a good singer?

01:55:50.820 Good singer?

01:55:51.540 Yeah.

01:55:52.280 Decent-ish?

01:55:52.880 I'm a fun singer.

01:55:54.340 Fun singer.

01:55:54.840 Okay.

01:55:55.080 Good singer.

01:55:55.420 What are we singing?

01:55:56.380 Okay.

01:55:56.860 Okay.

01:55:57.120 What are we singing?

01:55:57.720 Can you, since Jungle sent in like four grand, can you guys all sing, He's a Jolly Good

01:56:02.160 Fellow?

01:56:02.640 Would you do it?

01:56:03.520 Okay.

01:56:03.640 All right.

01:56:04.440 All right.

01:56:04.680 All right.

01:56:04.740 All right.

01:56:05.060 With us, right?

01:56:05.980 I'll sing with you.

01:56:06.520 Okay.

01:56:06.700 Thank you.

01:56:07.200 Okay.

01:56:07.220 Ready?

01:56:07.900 One, two, three, go.

01:56:10.480 For he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow,

01:56:18.980 that nobody can deny. 0.95

01:56:22.400 Everyone fucks up the end, every single time.

01:56:24.200 Thank you, Jungle.

01:56:24.940 It was very kind of you.

01:56:26.260 Which nobody can deny?

01:56:27.540 Yeah.

01:56:27.720 Who?

01:56:28.180 Is that what it is?

01:56:28.720 Yeah.

01:56:28.760 It's which nobody can deny.

01:56:29.380 Yeah.

01:56:29.580 What prepositional phrase is it?

01:56:32.220 Okay.

01:56:32.460 Salud. 0.89

01:56:33.120 Double fisting over here, Brian's crazy. 0.69

01:56:36.080 Is that propositional?

01:56:38.160 Prepositional?

01:56:38.660 Is that a propositional phrase?

01:56:40.280 That in which on about.

01:56:42.220 Yeah.

01:56:42.420 That in.

01:56:42.820 Yeah.

01:56:43.200 So she said that.

01:56:44.160 So that would be, yeah.

01:56:45.020 Propositional phrase.

01:56:46.020 Yeah.

01:56:46.080 Which nobody can.

01:56:46.860 I think it's which.

01:56:47.200 Which nobody can.

01:56:48.540 Yeah.

01:56:48.740 Which nobody can.

01:56:49.860 Yeah.

01:56:50.260 Yeah.

01:56:50.420 All right, guys.

01:56:51.020 All right.

01:56:51.140 Well, next time we'll get it.

01:56:52.540 To Jungle.

01:56:53.580 Welcome to the Jungle.

01:56:54.740 Thank you.

01:56:56.720 I'll fill up if they need some later.

01:56:58.420 Okay.

01:56:58.980 Did you guys want to continue on the, you're talking about dating?

01:57:01.700 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:02.020 Well, I was just, I was pretty much done there.

01:57:04.180 I just said, that's the pattern that I've noticed is that women generally. 1.00

01:57:07.140 Yeah.

01:57:07.440 And here's the thing.

01:57:08.780 I don't just see that.

01:57:09.880 I don't see this in one occupation.

01:57:12.300 I see this across occupational boards.

01:57:13.880 Like for instance, women are often in HR departments and they usually make things. 1.00

01:57:17.940 It's 200,000 times worse for everybody because they're in HR departments and it's just awful. 0.82

01:57:23.820 They're just awful at HR departments.

01:57:25.340 Well, why are women in HR departments? 1.00

01:57:27.320 Because normally, like, I think that kind of goes back to like the systemic change.

01:57:31.500 It's like, we're in HR because that's all we can do.

01:57:34.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:34.460 Right?

01:57:34.580 I'll explain, I'll explain why.

01:57:36.380 I'll explain why in HR departments, they're problematic, especially when it comes to men.

01:57:41.580 So, HR, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:43.820 I'm going to tell you, this is true.

01:57:47.840 When you go to a human resources department, they have psychological training courses that

01:57:53.600 they often go through.

01:57:55.540 And during the psychological training courses, they're taught to use a specific tone, which

01:58:01.020 is designed around the feminine, just like in school.

01:58:04.360 In schools, men are disadvantaged.

01:58:05.880 Boys are disadvantaged because it's usually a feminine curriculum. 1.00

01:58:09.680 And that's why women excel in school. 1.00

01:58:11.800 Men don't. 0.98

01:58:12.720 They have a feminine curriculum. 1.00

01:58:14.780 This idea of like, sit at the table, have your hands folded, listen quietly while the teacher's

01:58:19.420 teaching. 1.00

01:58:20.160 Men don't do that shit. 1.00

01:58:21.140 But they want to throw stuff at each other and be obnoxious. 1.00

01:58:24.440 They want to throw stuff at each other.

01:58:25.540 Well, I know.

01:58:26.040 I'll push back on that though.

01:58:26.900 There's plenty of men who do great in school though.

01:58:29.060 We used to see that a lot more.

01:58:30.320 Yeah, women excel in comparison because of the rules which are there, right? 1.00

01:58:35.040 So, for instance, when I was younger, he got into a fist fight.

01:58:38.540 It was maybe suspendable.

01:58:40.580 It was not a police arrest you and you go to jail.

01:58:43.400 Sure, yeah.

01:58:44.140 If I came home with a black eye and bloody nose, I lost.

01:58:46.780 That's all that that meant.

01:58:48.120 Or unless he had more bruises or something.

01:58:50.080 You could have won on that one. 0.98

01:58:52.060 Yeah, but the point is, is like, nobody gave a shit. 0.97

01:58:54.560 It wasn't like, oh my God, these kids, they started knocking each other around. 0.91

01:58:58.060 Oh my God, they're the cops, right?

01:58:59.020 Well, I think once there was more shootings and stuff, I don't know.

01:59:02.060 There was a massive amount of gang violence inside of schools before any of that mass stuff

01:59:08.080 started happening, right?

01:59:09.140 Yeah.

01:59:09.300 But still, men, especially young men, learn differently than women. 0.98

01:59:14.160 But because they're inside of a very feminine zone, they actually can't excel the same way 1.00

01:59:19.180 they do in all boys schools and things like this, where they excel much better.

01:59:22.640 Um, what's interesting is, is in HR departments, since they're always inundated with women, 1.00

01:59:28.740 right?

01:59:29.300 It's always from the feminine perspective too. 0.95

01:59:31.440 So men, let me tell you some things that men hate.

01:59:34.020 Can we have a little conversation?

01:59:36.160 Every man who hears that does this. 1.00

01:59:38.700 Oh God, can you just come down and lightning, Zeus lightning bolt me through the fucking chest. 0.99

01:59:44.400 Yes, please do that so I don't have to go in to this room. 1.00

01:59:48.460 I think women have that too. 1.00

01:59:49.660 The moment we hear any of that. 1.00

01:59:50.780 With this fucking insufferable woman. 1.00

01:59:52.040 Can we have a talk? 1.00

01:59:53.040 Oh.

01:59:53.820 As a more masculine presenting person.

01:59:55.060 Or how about this one?

01:59:56.960 As a woman, I agree. 1.00

01:59:58.520 We hate that shit. 1.00

01:59:59.100 So what we're going to do here is a little bit of coaching. 1.00

02:00:01.280 We're going to do a little bit of coaching.

02:00:02.520 I don't talk like that.

02:00:03.340 Or how about, we're going to, you know, I'm just here to assist you with some of the problems

02:00:07.720 that we've been seeing you having. 1.00

02:00:09.460 And they have their little like fucking stupid post-it notes and shit. 1.00

02:00:12.140 Like every guy on planet earth, right? 1.00

02:00:15.080 Even the most like cringe dude thinks, the second they hear that, all they can think

02:00:21.140 of in their head is this.

02:00:22.400 And this is what's on repeat, right?

02:00:24.040 Now you can believe me or not believe me, but this is what's on repeat. 1.00

02:00:26.460 Shut up, bitch. 1.00

02:00:27.160 Shut up, bitch. 1.00

02:00:27.700 Shut up, bitch. 1.00

02:00:28.200 Shut up, bitch. 1.00

02:00:28.600 Please shut up, bitch. 1.00

02:00:29.480 Please shut up. 1.00

02:00:30.100 That's all they're thinking on repeat. 0.99

02:00:32.260 Now me saying that out loud to a group of women, you think, you think even right now,

02:00:37.000 man, that's harsh.

02:00:38.300 That's actually kind of harsh, but it's like, that's actually how we think about it.

02:00:42.140 We're just like, please, can this end?

02:00:45.380 How quickly can this end?

02:00:46.660 But do you think that that's why that tone is being made?

02:00:48.920 Because a confrontation, because I feel like men can only hold it in before they go.

02:00:52.860 They lose it.

02:00:53.700 You know?

02:00:54.140 And so it's like, they have to take a softer tone.

02:00:56.600 Almost like, I don't want to say speaking to a child, but just being softer to create

02:01:00.760 this open space.

02:01:01.240 No, no, no.

02:01:01.580 See, I think that that misses the whole point.

02:01:04.000 Okay.

02:01:04.140 And that's the feminine prism too, right? 0.99

02:01:06.240 They don't actually give a shit. 0.97

02:01:07.980 What they really want to say to you is like, everything that you're about to tell me, 0.99

02:01:11.420 I don't give a fuck about any of it. 0.98

02:01:13.240 I don't care. 0.97

02:01:14.240 It means nothing to me.

02:01:15.800 I'm only trying to get through this meeting as far as I can to keep this job. 0.99

02:01:19.440 But everything coming out of your mouth, I literally don't give a fuck about. 0.99

02:01:23.140 I think women are that too. 1.00

02:01:23.760 That's what they actually are thinking in their brains.

02:01:26.020 I think women in that circumstance are also thinking the same thing. 0.88

02:01:29.480 Hold on, hold on.

02:01:30.720 Going to you, you are not enjoying what Andrew's saying.

02:01:38.340 What are your thoughts?

02:01:42.820 The reason why she doesn't date in America. 1.00

02:01:45.420 Oh, I was thinking why you could make such conclusions like without giving any examples.

02:01:51.880 Like you need to like support your own opinions.

02:01:55.140 But even his examples would be his.

02:01:57.540 So if you're asking for like data for these examples, right now this is an anecdotal conversation.

02:02:02.460 Yeah.

02:02:02.680 So I preface this conversation by saying this is based on the pattern recognition experiences that I've seen.

02:02:08.560 Yeah.

02:02:08.760 Not preferencing it on like, oh, I have a massive data packet here that's sociological in nature.

02:02:14.180 Probably will never be replicated.

02:02:15.760 In order to show my findings that this is what men think.

02:02:19.560 But based on all the conversations that I've had with men, and I've had thousands of them all across the world say thing with women, this is what they think.

02:02:27.680 Sure.

02:02:27.800 But there will be something called confirmation bias in this as well too.

02:02:31.620 Yeah.

02:02:32.260 The thing is though, is like I think pattern recognition assists with eliminating confirmation bias.

02:02:38.060 That's what it's there for.

02:02:39.020 Not really.

02:02:39.400 Confirmation bias is better.

02:02:40.040 Because you wouldn't be able to assess your own like patterns and your own confirmation bias in it or awareness of it.

02:02:47.440 If you understand what I'm saying with that one.

02:02:49.260 But sorry, I don't want to take a conversation with you.

02:02:50.980 Well, you're good.

02:02:51.300 But let's just talk about it from the ideological.

02:02:54.340 You can hold ideologies which are false based on confirmation bias like you're talking about.

02:02:59.460 Yeah, many people do.

02:03:00.720 Until they are moved into a position where their ideology is tested and doesn't fit with the pattern, then they enter cognitive dissonance.

02:03:08.100 Because their confirmation bias shatters based on new pattern recognition.

02:03:12.060 You hope.

02:03:12.720 But it actually doesn't happen unless they're like forced to recognize it and forced to face the information.

02:03:17.780 That would be new patterns.

02:03:18.420 Now, what we see in dating is confirmation bias is huge.

02:03:21.760 Yeah, of course. 1.00

02:03:22.060 If you have a belief system that all women, all men are shit or nothing or all women are toxic, I'm sorry. 0.99

02:03:28.200 But if you put someone in a room full of quality people or nice people, they'll make it up in their head. 1.00

02:03:34.280 You will make it up in your head.

02:03:35.340 You will actually physically hear it differently.

02:03:37.980 And you will repeat it back differently.

02:03:39.660 You can ask someone with confirmation bias. 1.00

02:03:41.340 I would never say that the idea of like all women are shit. 1.00

02:03:45.940 No, no. 1.00

02:03:46.340 I was giving an example of that.

02:03:47.420 I know you didn't say that.

02:03:48.720 Like in these monolithic tones.

02:03:50.580 No.

02:03:50.700 But I do think.

02:03:51.560 But we generalize.

02:03:52.980 Yeah, of course.

02:03:53.880 We generalize.

02:03:54.360 But that's part of pattern recognition is generalization.

02:03:57.180 But that's a good one to recognize.

02:03:58.840 I'm generalizing.

02:04:00.020 So my pattern is that I'm generalizing and I'm seeing these people and I'm putting them into this.

02:04:04.100 Well, no.

02:04:04.300 I'm generalizing based on patterns.

02:04:06.200 So I would just say like, for instance, I don't get in very many car accidents.

02:04:10.120 So I think driving is pretty safe for me.

02:04:12.380 That would be a pattern that I would recognize.

02:04:14.080 But if you were to see the data.

02:04:14.960 But if I were to, well, how about just I were to be moved to a large city where there was massive traffic congestion and now suddenly I'm driving a lot more and I'm getting into more accidents, I might enter into like, oh shit, my pre-assumption about driving being safe is actually driving is only safe under these circumstances.

02:04:32.420 If that happened, but you could also go to that big city and suddenly only drive like, you know, 2 p.m. when there's no traffic.

02:04:38.160 So you could absolutely still hold that belief system.

02:04:40.860 You can.

02:04:40.880 But that makes my point for me.

02:04:42.060 It's safe to do.

02:04:43.080 Right.

02:04:43.320 But that makes my point for me that the ideology, unless presented with new patterns, is going to hold still based on pattern recognition.

02:04:48.740 Yes, based on pattern.

02:04:49.560 But that's why it's on the individual as well, too.

02:04:51.660 So you said like women are like less like not available, but reliable for like advice and stuff like for me, it's much different.

02:05:00.380 Like growing up in the South, like my mom and my grandmother, my aunties, like those powerful women were the ones leading the family, like giving advice, cooking all the meals. 1.00

02:05:10.280 And like I couldn't really name maybe like one or two males that really had a dramatic impact on my life where I would say like, oh, yeah, like that.

02:05:19.240 Well, I need you to remember this, though.

02:05:20.700 Yeah.

02:05:21.000 That I didn't actually say who was more available for advice.

02:05:23.580 No, that was a bad, that was a bad.

02:05:25.080 What I said was the ones I would actually go to for advice.

02:05:28.760 See, for me, you wouldn't be a man.

02:05:30.400 I actually said women are more available, a lot more available for advice and a lot more likely to be given to it. 1.00

02:05:36.620 It depends on the subject.

02:05:37.460 I think it depends on what you're asking them advice on.

02:05:39.880 Right.

02:05:40.260 Because women would be experts on makeup, for example, like stereotypically. 1.00

02:05:43.820 Raising kids.

02:05:44.980 Well, you know, here's the thing. 0.99

02:05:47.520 Why the fuck would a guy go to a girl for advice on makeup? 0.99

02:05:50.620 We can answer that. 0.99

02:05:51.880 We're in L.A.

02:05:52.400 Let's give you an example.

02:05:53.380 Like women are excelling in certain things. 1.00

02:05:54.360 But I mean, let's actually dive into like the examples, right?

02:05:57.340 Okay.

02:05:57.600 Sure.

02:05:57.860 So the example of like makeup. 0.99

02:06:00.120 Guys aren't going to go to fucking women for advice on makeup because they don't wear it. 1.00

02:06:02.820 I'm just saying like when women go to other women for advice, it's on their expertise. 0.99

02:06:05.980 What would men be going to women for advice for? 0.77

02:06:08.580 Emotions.

02:06:10.240 On how to get women.

02:06:11.020 That's about it.

02:06:11.840 That's part of it.

02:06:12.900 Well, when you think about it, like let's break it down.

02:06:14.800 A woman who makes a lot of money. 1.00

02:06:15.740 There's not actually that much for men to go to women for advice on.

02:06:20.420 So if they wanted to talk to very wealthy people, plenty of men who are very wealthy,

02:06:24.120 usually more wealthy than women. 0.58

02:06:25.600 If it was going to come down to an occupational like skills, there's no way women are going 1.00

02:06:30.500 to get better advice on electrical, roofing, you know, concrete mixing.

02:06:34.880 It depends.

02:06:35.160 Just like I said, makeup was one of them.

02:06:36.740 It doesn't depend.

02:06:37.880 What woman are you going to go to for advice on mixing concrete? 1.00

02:06:41.240 Come on.

02:06:41.800 Well, some women are better at sales specifically. 1.00

02:06:45.020 Sales.

02:06:45.640 It depends.

02:06:46.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:06:46.660 But here's the thing.

02:06:47.660 Even then, right?

02:06:48.940 Wouldn't you, if you were a man, go, okay, well, there's some disadvantages I have immediately. 0.84

02:06:52.320 Like I don't have boobs and I'm not cute and I don't have this and I don't have that. 0.99

02:06:55.220 You're going to go to who for the best advice on how to sell shit as a man, man. 0.99

02:06:59.480 I think you're going to go with, yeah, someone that looks like you that that way you're like, 0.99

02:07:02.840 how do you do what you do?

02:07:04.500 And with that part, I agree with advice for women on if they're the person you're trying 0.88

02:07:08.980 to sell to, you get advice on being better at sales through that.

02:07:13.800 That would be market research.

02:07:15.720 Yeah.

02:07:16.160 Except the most successful marketers on planet earth were men.

02:07:21.020 But they probably asked women. 1.00

02:07:21.960 And they got the entire planet to smoke and they got the entire planet to do it.

02:07:25.220 all of these other things, which are.

02:07:26.840 This isn't the greatest argument right now.

02:07:29.260 Well, actually, actually it is.

02:07:30.880 No, no, no, I'm kidding.

02:07:31.820 It is.

02:07:32.060 I got you.

02:07:32.680 Imagine you can get the.

02:07:33.200 Like imagine all the bad, but you said good advice.

02:07:36.220 Well, imagine that you can actually get through crafted, through like crafted propaganda,

02:07:42.400 the whole population of smoke, that was men who were able to at least craft that propaganda.

02:07:46.680 Sure.

02:07:46.780 Work for men and women. 0.99

02:07:48.380 Yeah.

02:07:48.880 Yeah.

02:07:48.980 So it's like, and they weren't like.

02:07:50.140 But men were the ones who were first able to get into those roles.

02:07:50.540 And by the way, that was like the most misogynistic society ever.

02:07:53.600 They weren't.

02:07:54.300 What's that?

02:07:54.720 I think that's the, what she said was that men were the first ones who would get in that

02:07:58.160 role.

02:07:58.560 And I think that.

02:07:59.620 So they have, you know, they're a step ahead of women. 1.00

02:08:02.760 That's what's changing.

02:08:03.780 Like now, like I'm an executive chef when you wouldn't really see executive chefs in a

02:08:08.520 female role. 1.00

02:08:09.200 Like now my fiance is a pilot. 0.97

02:08:11.320 Like women are terrible at marketing. 1.00

02:08:14.300 Oh, actually. 0.79

02:08:15.120 How many women are in that marketing field? 1.00

02:08:18.000 Do you remember Bud Light?

02:08:19.720 Bud Light had a massive controversy where they put, where they put Mulvaney on a Bud Light

02:08:23.760 beer can, right?

02:08:25.000 And then lost the entire market share of Bud Light spearheaded by a woman, right? 1.00

02:08:31.100 Spearheaded by a woman trying to sell this beer. 1.00

02:08:33.680 Not because she understood Dylan a woman.

02:08:37.220 What's that?

02:08:38.020 Well, that depends on, cause I know a little bit about your background that I'm assuming

02:08:42.560 you don't see Dylan Mulvaney as a woman.

02:08:44.980 I don't see the woman in charge of the marketing campaign as a woman. 0.99

02:08:47.300 Okay. 1.00

02:08:48.060 The woman in charge of the marketing campaign who had a vagina is definitely a woman by 1.00

02:08:52.980 any criteria I can think of. 0.99

02:08:55.320 Okay.

02:08:55.700 I don't know if you're talking about Dylan specifically or if your opinions have changed.

02:08:58.300 No, the person who put Dylan on the can.

02:09:00.780 Okay.

02:09:01.400 That was a female in charge of that. 1.00

02:09:03.760 Completely fucked it all up, right? 0.99

02:09:05.600 There's multiple marketing campaigns actually spearheaded that they fucked up because they 0.98

02:09:10.100 don't take in the male element. 0.96

02:09:11.160 They take in the female element. 1.00

02:09:12.220 That was a campaign.

02:09:12.780 I think that that's something to learn for sure.

02:09:14.120 That was a campaign led by empathy.

02:09:15.100 I'm sure we can point to men failures as well, too.

02:09:17.980 You know what I mean?

02:09:19.100 On marketing.

02:09:19.860 But there was a study that did come out and I can't remember the guy's name, so I haven't

02:09:23.200 gotten to say it.

02:09:24.420 But he just, there's studies that have come out and we can debate it or whatever, but

02:09:29.160 apparently women make excellent CEOs and better CEOs. 1.00

02:09:32.480 No, they don't.

02:09:33.560 That's not, there's data on that one.

02:09:35.800 No, but here's the thing.

02:09:37.280 You can look on that one.

02:09:38.320 Someone else can Google that.

02:09:39.040 Hang on, hang on.

02:09:39.240 There's also data on this.

02:09:41.080 There's also data that says that if you have corporations that do diversity hires, they

02:09:45.660 actually do better than corporations that don't.

02:09:47.600 That was a study that came out that I was just debating the other day until I came into

02:09:51.860 the debate with all of the modern refutations to the study based on, of course, the new evidence

02:09:57.120 which emerged when they went back to replicate that study.

02:10:00.120 It turns out those companies were already doing great.

02:10:02.140 They just had so much money they were able to start playing with the EF.

02:10:04.060 Turned out like Costco?

02:10:05.600 There was tons.

02:10:06.380 There was a bunch of Fortune 500 S&Ps.

02:10:08.680 Right.

02:10:08.980 They just had so much money that they were able to start playing around with this model.

02:10:13.060 Right.

02:10:13.300 It's not a diversity hires.

02:10:13.840 It wasn't that that model made them rich. 0.98

02:10:16.480 They were already fucking rich. 0.79

02:10:17.740 They just had enough money that they could start playing with the model. 0.98

02:10:20.220 What's the term for that? 0.98

02:10:21.440 That's a, damn, I'm blanking on it. 0.99

02:10:23.800 DEI. 0.99

02:10:24.120 No, no, no.

02:10:24.720 You know when like something looks like it's coming from this.

02:10:27.420 There we go.

02:10:27.720 Correlation.

02:10:28.020 It was a correlation, not a causation.

02:10:29.320 Correct.

02:10:29.800 Exactly.

02:10:29.980 They actually said like they took a correlate and then pretended it was a causation when

02:10:36.900 it wasn't to affirm a bias.

02:10:38.340 Yeah.

02:10:38.500 So the thing is, it's like anytime I look at this stuff, right, I realize that whenever

02:10:44.260 it's led by empathy first, which women usually lead their morality by empathy first, it's 1.00

02:10:48.880 usually a massive failure.

02:10:50.200 It's usually a massive failure.

02:10:52.060 I hope that they mix both.

02:10:53.640 I think that we can learn from both men and women.

02:10:55.100 I agree because I think that if a woman's just coming in and she's only looking at the 1.00

02:10:57.860 empathy, then yeah, absolutely, you're losing it.

02:11:00.240 But if a guy's coming in and he's only looking at one thing as well too, I think that, you

02:11:04.520 know, yeah, if you open yourself up and think about different things and new ways of attacking

02:11:07.800 it.

02:11:08.100 Yeah, but I wouldn't dispute that.

02:11:08.680 I wouldn't dispute the idea that there's going to be some, so I wouldn't monolith anything.

02:11:13.520 I wouldn't say anything's always in all of anything.

02:11:15.500 But if we look at general trends, what we can see is that women lead with empathy

02:11:19.800 first, right?

02:11:21.500 Men tend to lead with reason first.

02:11:22.980 Yeah, when I coach differently, like if I coach women, I have to get them to like stop 1.00

02:11:28.040 with feeling stuff.

02:11:29.300 It's I just need you forward motion.

02:11:30.960 But with men, I need them stop forward motion because you're making mistakes and not assessing.

02:11:35.360 So I need you intuitive.

02:11:37.140 So men can listen to your gut.

02:11:38.480 You've done it and you've said it.

02:11:40.000 You can, you right now could look at someone or look at someone's profile and intuitively

02:11:43.680 kind of know based on logic, based on things, based on whatever.

02:11:46.360 But you could know who that person is, what they're about to do or say or whatnot, or if 1.00

02:11:50.900 they're a good person, decent person or full of shit. 0.99

02:11:52.620 Well, I've had, I've had a significant, but I've had significant advantages of having, 1.00

02:11:57.800 of, of having tons and tons of interpersonal conversations with thousands of different

02:12:03.340 people all over the place, right?

02:12:05.080 So it helps your intuition.

02:12:06.480 I have significant advantages that the general public would not have when it came to, to

02:12:11.660 understanding what people are saying, why they're saying it, what type of worldview they're

02:12:14.720 leading from.

02:12:15.500 Yeah.

02:12:15.880 Most people don't have that.

02:12:17.180 No.

02:12:17.400 And because they don't, right, it's easy enough for me to just say, look, generally

02:12:21.480 women do lead with empathy. 0.99

02:12:22.920 Yes.

02:12:23.300 And generally men do lead with reason.

02:12:25.300 Yes. 0.98

02:12:25.640 If that's the case, right, who the fuck would you want in charge of every situation? 0.99

02:12:29.980 Both. 0.99

02:12:30.180 Probably the sex that led with reason.

02:12:31.040 I want the person, I want either one that's unlocked both.

02:12:34.580 So for a man, if he's got intuition.

02:12:36.300 Why?

02:12:36.360 What advantage does empathy give you over reason?

02:12:38.240 Because you're a human.

02:12:39.380 Think about it as intuition.

02:12:40.500 No, no, not intuition.

02:12:41.560 That's not my question.

02:12:42.580 What advantage does a man, if a man has empathy?

02:12:47.640 If a man has, is able to do forward motion plus empathy, I feel like he's lethal.

02:12:52.820 What?

02:12:53.520 How?

02:12:54.280 What is, what does the empathy give him?

02:12:56.040 In the marriage market, like if you're in the dating pool, a woman's going to look for 1.00

02:13:00.400 a man who has empathy as well as strength.

02:13:02.440 EQ.

02:13:03.020 But if you have reason, can she just fake the empathy?

02:13:06.080 Who's faking it?

02:13:06.800 Who's going to get married to someone who's been faking for that long?

02:13:09.700 And you usually can spot red flags.

02:13:11.100 So like the idea, I'll give you, I'll give you this great example of this, right? 1.00

02:13:15.360 And almost probably every man will do this where his woman comes to him with some stupid 1.00

02:13:20.220 fucking problem. 1.00

02:13:21.140 He doesn't give a shit about, but she does, right? 1.00

02:13:23.620 She cares about it for whatever reason. 0.99

02:13:25.280 And it's literally fucking meaningless, totally meaningless, means nothing, totally irrelevant, 0.98

02:13:30.540 totally nonsensical. 0.99

02:13:31.880 Nobody on planet earth gives a shit. 1.00

02:13:33.360 He's like this. 1.00

02:13:34.080 He goes, it's okay, honey.

02:13:36.160 Right now in his mind, I'm going to tell you what he's thinking. 1.00

02:13:38.240 What he's thinking in his head is, God, this is fucking stupid. 1.00

02:13:41.120 And I hope that you just stop with this fucking shit in the next 20 minutes. 1.00

02:13:44.480 That would be great. 1.00

02:13:45.320 I got other shit to do. 0.99

02:13:46.560 I can't even believe that you're hysterical about this. 0.99

02:13:49.060 This is, they're faking empathy.

02:13:51.100 Well, if you do that, do you care about me?

02:13:53.820 Hold up.

02:13:54.940 We have to do that too.

02:13:57.400 We know.

02:13:58.160 It's called a relationship.

02:14:00.160 Yeah.

02:14:00.620 Are you not?

02:14:01.320 No, no, no.

02:14:01.800 I'm kidding.

02:14:02.660 I'm kidding on that one.

02:14:03.880 Don't jump down my throat on that.

02:14:05.500 Are you actually that way with your wife?

02:14:07.360 Sometimes.

02:14:08.560 There's been times where my wife, for instance, just like every woman on planet Earth, she's 1.00

02:14:12.840 been on her period, completely irrational, says some stupid ass fucking shit. 1.00

02:14:16.960 I've told her things like, go to your room. 1.00

02:14:18.620 Literally go to your room and take a fucking nap. 1.00

02:14:20.960 Until you can act and take a nap like a fucking human being. 1.00

02:14:24.420 Go to your room and take a fucking nap. 1.00

02:14:26.640 Does she speak to you or something? 1.00

02:14:27.720 And you know what she does? 1.00

02:14:28.680 She goes to her room and she takes a fucking nap. 1.00

02:14:30.960 And the next thing I know, she acts like a rational human being. 0.99

02:14:33.320 Does she speak to you that way too though?

02:14:34.840 And I mean that in a good way.

02:14:36.140 But do you guys get to communicate like, you know what I mean?

02:14:39.660 Let us pretend for a moment.

02:14:40.820 Because I'm Italian.

02:14:41.560 So we talk like that as women too in our families. 0.94

02:14:43.860 Yeah, I'll respond to this.

02:14:44.420 So I'm just saying that it's a good thing.

02:14:46.020 I'll respond to this. 0.99

02:14:46.500 Let us pretend for a moment that for a week out of every month, I completely lost my fucking 0.99

02:14:53.180 mind due to hormones. 0.99

02:14:54.600 It started like, oh, I don't know, ripping doors off of hinges.

02:14:57.840 I'm sure she probably wouldn't be very pleasant about that.

02:15:00.520 No, yes, exactly.

02:15:01.560 But guess what?

02:15:02.220 But guess what?

02:15:02.800 She's like, go take a nap. 1.00

02:15:04.340 Because I'm not, I don't have what is called hormonal lunacy once a month.

02:15:08.840 You don't have to worry about that.

02:15:10.160 Men lead with reason.

02:15:11.700 So no, of course my wife, my wife's not going to talk to me like that. 1.00

02:15:14.580 Maybe you might have some reason.

02:15:16.800 But you suppress emotions and you emotionally explode in anger.

02:15:20.220 You're supposed to suppress emotions.

02:15:21.880 Yes, absolutely.

02:15:22.900 Go for it.

02:15:23.440 Suppress.

02:15:23.900 Men out there, suppress. 0.94

02:15:25.240 Yes, suppress.

02:15:26.360 You don't want to see what happens.

02:15:27.580 Push it down.

02:15:28.840 You only allow it.

02:15:29.560 Horniness and anger.

02:15:31.320 Really quick before I move this on.

02:15:33.560 You've been grimacing these times.

02:15:35.580 I know.

02:15:36.360 And she had such a great point.

02:15:39.500 She's not been happy.

02:15:41.140 Yeah, come back to us. 0.95

02:15:42.280 What do you think about this terrible misogynist? 0.89

02:15:47.660 What misogynist? 0.97

02:15:49.720 I can't believe what I've just heard.

02:15:50.880 I'm terrible, yeah, I know.

02:15:51.700 Yeah, that's exactly why I don't turn to men for help.

02:15:55.800 What did he actually say?

02:15:58.960 Like he doesn't care about what the girl is talking about.

02:16:01.900 Like her feelings, saying like lunacy, hysterical, all these words.

02:16:06.260 Like even hysteria, the word estymologically is like anti-women. 0.99

02:16:11.600 Like it's made up by men to saying women are crazy. 0.94

02:16:15.440 So I don't know. 0.80

02:16:16.740 Do women, let me ask you a question. 1.00

02:16:18.160 Do men get periods?

02:16:21.200 No.

02:16:21.800 Okay.

02:16:22.120 No, they do change hormonally.

02:16:24.080 We've noticed.

02:16:25.080 Not like that.

02:16:25.620 No, they don't.

02:16:25.920 You do have hormonal frequencies.

02:16:26.900 Hang on.

02:16:28.360 Do women one time per month have massive hormonal changes, which affect literally how they think? 1.00

02:16:36.120 Yeah.

02:16:36.440 Not everybody.

02:16:37.740 Not every woman.

02:16:38.680 No, not everybody.

02:16:40.160 You can actually have smaller.

02:16:41.580 Like, why do I turn to women for help? 1.00

02:16:45.400 It's because like when I feel really sad, I need to have emotional support.

02:16:49.620 Yeah, you want them to lie to you.

02:16:50.900 Yeah, you want them to lie to you.

02:16:52.240 I can calm down and then like I can reason myself.

02:16:55.360 I can think it's true.

02:16:56.360 And also my...

02:16:56.780 See, we don't want them to be lying to us.

02:16:58.860 We want them to have genuine empathy, which they don't really have.

02:17:01.500 Oh, come on. 0.87

02:17:01.520 They lie.

02:17:02.220 Women lie to each other all day. 1.00

02:17:02.860 Oh, we all lie.

02:17:03.580 That's fine.

02:17:04.040 No, we all do.

02:17:05.040 Of course.

02:17:05.820 I don't even care about that.

02:17:06.280 We'll come right back to this.

02:17:07.120 I need this chat.

02:17:08.260 I'm very sorry I missed it.

02:17:09.620 Or a TTS came in 25 minutes ago.

02:17:12.060 I apologize.

02:17:12.660 Normally we're on top of these, but I missed it.

02:17:15.080 Rule 21 donated $200.

02:17:17.420 Thank you, man.

02:17:17.960 I apologize for the delay.

02:17:19.200 Women with high body count, 6 plus, have a greater likelihood of cheating, relationship 1.00

02:17:23.940 dissatisfaction, can't pair bond, depression. 0.93

02:17:27.800 And it's just disgusting.

02:17:29.780 Why would any guy want that?

02:17:31.400 Actually, the last part of what that chatter said is the most important part. 0.91

02:17:35.460 And it's just disgusting.

02:17:37.360 That's all that needs to be.

02:17:38.640 If it is the case from the man's prism that it's revolting and preferences are fine to

02:17:43.920 have, then that's enough.

02:17:45.340 Sure.

02:17:45.700 Absolutely.

02:17:45.980 We don't need any more.

02:17:46.680 Your preference.

02:17:47.280 Your preference.

02:17:48.260 But that preference is changing.

02:17:49.960 It's very uneven where men feel like it's okay for them.

02:17:52.780 Where if a woman has a higher body count, it's a no. 1.00

02:17:55.280 I think that that's where there's a disconnect and it just doesn't seem fair.

02:18:00.540 Well, here's the thing.

02:18:01.560 Well, let me ask you a question.

02:18:02.800 Yeah.

02:18:03.420 You go on first dates, yeah?

02:18:05.540 Of course I go on first dates.

02:18:06.260 When's the last time you've been on a first date?

02:18:07.980 It's been a while.

02:18:09.720 How many first dates have you been on?

02:18:12.660 In my ripe age, I'm not really sure.

02:18:14.880 I'll say maybe in the last year, I've gone on, I don't know, eight first dates.

02:18:20.240 Okay.

02:18:20.260 Who paid for the dates?

02:18:22.500 The men have.

02:18:23.840 Did you offer?

02:18:24.640 One time, yes.

02:18:26.940 And I actually paid and the guy decided not to get anything.

02:18:29.100 Yeah.

02:18:29.620 And then, but you said-

02:18:30.460 One out of eight.

02:18:31.000 And he didn't pay for anything.

02:18:32.460 He didn't ask for anything when I offered to pay.

02:18:34.800 Oh, right.

02:18:35.120 So I was like, all right, fine.

02:18:35.960 I'm getting my own thing.

02:18:36.920 So, I mean, we can discuss about what's fair, what's unfair or double standards or benefits

02:18:42.360 that men receive, benefits that women receive, male privilege, female privilege.

02:18:46.600 You seem to have a double standard as it relates to who pays on the first date.

02:18:50.900 So what's the actual problem?

02:18:51.960 I don't think it's a double standard.

02:18:53.180 I think that-

02:18:54.320 Do you pay for dates?

02:18:55.820 I have.

02:18:56.720 Okay.

02:18:57.220 Other than the fact that he didn't order anything, I was very willing to pay for himself.

02:18:59.880 But okay.

02:19:00.200 So seven of the eight dates that you went on just this year, the man paid for all of them.

02:19:06.580 Yes.

02:19:06.920 Because he asked me out on a date and I was like, sure.

02:19:09.020 Do you ask men out on dates?

02:19:10.640 No.

02:19:11.200 Oh, okay.

02:19:11.800 So conveniently, it's just very convenient.

02:19:14.300 This whole men should pay on dates. 1.00

02:19:15.960 Whoever asks should, or excuse me, whoever asks should be the one who pays on dates.

02:19:20.740 But women conveniently never ask men on dates. 1.00

02:19:23.840 So your argument as to, if your argument is whoever asks should pay would make sense to

02:19:31.700 me if men and women asked each other out at equivalent rates, but they clearly don't.

02:19:36.240 So you're kind of going around the bush as to beating around the bush, or not beating around

02:19:41.080 the bush.

02:19:41.100 I'm actually interested in how this correlates to my thing about Bible.

02:19:44.300 Okay.

02:19:44.520 Why is it okay for a man? 1.00

02:19:45.960 Sure, sure.

02:19:46.360 So here's the example.

02:19:48.000 So you were saying, well, it's kind of okay for men to have a high body count, but when

02:19:53.720 women have a high body count, there's an issue with it. 1.00

02:19:55.760 So there's a double, you claim there's a double standard that exists, right?

02:19:59.000 Yes.

02:19:59.560 Right.

02:19:59.800 And you might say, for example, as follows.

02:20:01.800 If a guy himself has a high body count, it would be unfair or unreasonable or hypocritical

02:20:07.960 or a double standard for, as a man with a high body count, to desire a woman who has

02:20:13.300 a low body count. 1.00

02:20:14.460 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:20:15.480 So definitely, he can desire someone. 1.00

02:20:17.720 Yeah.

02:20:17.980 I just don't think it should be shamed.

02:20:20.120 Like, oh, it's disgusting.

02:20:21.240 We're not.

02:20:21.600 I don't think we're talking about, well.

02:20:23.000 That's what I thought was the right.

02:20:23.900 To use that term, disgusting, to describe a person because of their human experience.

02:20:27.940 It's like, why is it disgusting for the women? 1.00

02:20:29.020 No, I'll explain it.

02:20:30.500 So, for example, body count sort of moves it far away from what a sexual encounter actually

02:20:38.300 is.

02:20:38.640 So, for example, and there could be differentials here.

02:20:42.740 You'll probably respond like, oh, well, a woman could have a high body count, but she's 1.00

02:20:45.700 been celibate for three years.

02:20:47.040 But I'd point to it like this. 0.70

02:20:48.820 For example, here's how it's disgusting.

02:20:50.720 If a woman slept with a different guy the night before and she goes on a date with me 0.99

02:20:55.720 and I sleep with her, that's disgusting. 0.99

02:20:58.420 To you? 0.99

02:20:59.440 To most men, that's going to be disgusting if a woman in recently slept with another man, 1.00

02:21:06.960 especially if she fucked him without a condom, especially if she let him come inside her. 1.00

02:21:12.760 Can I say why? 1.00

02:21:13.640 Can I just ask why?

02:21:14.680 I'm sorry.

02:21:14.780 Why do you know that?

02:21:16.180 Well, I mean, why is it disgusting?

02:21:18.660 Biologically, socially, or emotionally?

02:21:20.320 What is disgusting?

02:21:21.080 All of the above.

02:21:22.440 Okay, can we break those down maybe individually?

02:21:24.480 Yeah, sure.

02:21:24.540 I would love that.

02:21:26.160 Sure, actually, let's just start with the biological.

02:21:29.340 Personally, I actually wouldn't disagree with you.

02:21:31.880 Now, although I have gone on dates and things like that, I would not disagree with you.

02:21:35.680 I just mean, in general, I just want to know why it's okay.

02:21:38.500 She knows she wants to discuss it, but I don't disagree.

02:21:40.620 If she was with somebody, went raw, he came in her, whatever, and then goes on another

02:21:45.000 date, and then that's going to happen the very next day with a new person, I'm not in disagreement

02:21:49.580 with you.

02:21:50.020 The main point I was going to say here is that when it comes to the unfairness, I think

02:21:53.880 you're pointing towards the double standard or the potential hypocrisy.

02:21:57.620 Now, the thing is, my view is, when it comes to both men and women, we are allowed to desire

02:22:02.620 things in a partner, traits in a partner that we ourselves don't possess.

02:22:07.240 For example, I wouldn't find it a double standard necessarily or hypocritical if a woman who 1.00

02:22:15.120 was poor was attracted to and dated or wanted to date really rich men.

02:22:22.000 I don't think that that would be hypocritical or double standard.

02:22:25.220 A guy who has a high body count, for example, I don't think it would be hypocritical or a

02:22:29.140 double standard if, despite him having high body count, he has a preference for women

02:22:33.860 with a low body count.

02:22:35.140 I think it's different because I think it's...

02:22:36.900 How would it be different?

02:22:37.740 Go ahead.

02:22:38.560 Go ahead.

02:22:38.740 I think because it's morally.

02:22:40.880 If you're loose with yourself with other people, then maybe the person that doesn't

02:22:45.480 have as much money, your example was of a poor girl. 1.00

02:22:49.160 Okay.

02:22:50.060 No, no, no.

02:22:50.440 Go ahead.

02:22:50.700 I have a response though.

02:22:51.440 Go ahead.

02:22:51.520 Okay, sure.

02:22:52.320 So if your example is like, okay, there's this poor girl or somebody who's maybe just

02:22:56.500 like a server.

02:22:57.100 She doesn't get a ton of money. 1.00

02:22:58.140 She wants to date someone who makes six figures.

02:23:00.000 Who knows, whatever, a multimillionaire.

02:23:02.500 I don't think that that's the same morally.

02:23:04.480 Maybe she hasn't had the same opportunities to somebody who, a guy that sleeps around.

02:23:08.980 Okay.

02:23:09.260 So I'll respond to that.

02:23:10.600 So are you stating that when it comes to preferences, people are only entitled to having preferences

02:23:16.600 as it relates to morals?

02:23:19.420 Because women have... 1.00

02:23:20.820 One last thing and I'll let you respond.

02:23:22.620 Women have plenty of preferences for men that have nothing to do with morals. 1.00

02:23:27.060 And they do, and they also have preferences that do relate to morals.

02:23:30.720 Just relationally, even to just attraction, right?

02:23:33.680 It sounds like we went off topic from shaming someone, though.

02:23:36.000 Not really.

02:23:36.720 Like, we're still on...

02:23:37.520 I think it's still somewhat on topic.

02:23:39.120 Yeah, yeah.

02:23:39.520 It's kind of low.

02:23:40.640 Go ahead.

02:23:41.120 Okay.

02:23:41.840 I'm going to let this come in, but then you can respond.

02:23:43.600 Christopher Murphy donated 200 dollars.

02:23:45.200 Thank you, Christopher Murphy.

02:23:46.120 Sorry for the delay.

02:23:46.960 Andrew, you can't reason with these women. 1.00

02:23:49.180 They're driven by emotion and are therefore unreasonable.

02:23:52.580 Reason and logic push society, ladies, not your feelings. 1.00

02:23:57.060 That sounds like an emotional response.

02:23:58.380 But when you go home...

02:23:59.380 Right.

02:24:00.040 Because when you go home, you want that woman with feelings.

02:24:02.920 You don't want a woman that sits there and is analytical. 1.00

02:24:05.300 You don't come home to a pair of boobs that are hard as rocks. 1.00

02:24:08.180 You come home to a soft... 0.99

02:24:10.380 Some do.

02:24:11.180 And, you know...

02:24:11.940 I mean, like...

02:24:12.740 I think there's a balance.

02:24:14.020 There's just that balance that we have to...

02:24:15.840 You make...

02:24:16.420 Well, you make a fine point.

02:24:17.760 I would just give the quick reputation before Brian and the gal get back into it. 0.95

02:24:21.960 The only thing I would say is this.

02:24:23.720 It is the case.

02:24:24.440 You are right.

02:24:25.280 That men are perfectly happy to have women who lead with emotion in their life if they 0.99

02:24:29.840 submit to them.

02:24:30.740 Yeah.

02:24:31.400 I mean, like, I'm more a mask in my relationship.

02:24:33.960 And my current partner and fiance, she's more feminine.

02:24:37.300 And she definitely, like... 0.99

02:24:38.060 She submits? 0.86

02:24:38.640 She submits to me because, like, I...

02:24:40.660 I mean, she makes... 0.93

02:24:41.260 But she makes more money than me as a pilot and me as, like, a chef and doing, like, more 1.00

02:24:45.760 gig work and stuff like that.

02:24:47.220 That has nothing to do with what submission is, ultimately.

02:24:49.320 Well, no.

02:24:49.700 No, I definitely know that.

02:24:50.860 But I just mean, like...

02:24:52.800 Did you want to continue?

02:24:54.280 If you don't mind just repeating, I kind of lost track of the...

02:24:58.880 You guys were focused on whether or not it was hypocrisy, Brian.

02:25:02.040 Oh, because of, like, the more...

02:25:02.680 There was a focus on the higher body count for men versus women.

02:25:06.400 I mean, I think that if long-term you're looking for somebody, like, obviously you're going

02:25:11.500 to want to connect on moral things, on...

02:25:13.640 Compatibility is, you know, a factor in a long-term relationship.

02:25:17.380 So, yeah, I think that if you're going to be, not asking, but looking for the preference

02:25:21.060 of somebody who has a lower body count, you yourself should not have been, like, a hoe 1.00

02:25:24.520 as a man.

02:25:25.140 Well, let me see if I can make a response to this by just asking you a simple question.

02:25:29.860 Would it be a deal-breaker for you if you met a man and he had all the right criteria?

02:25:34.360 He was a millionaire, perhaps.

02:25:38.080 He met the attractiveness skill that you wanted.

02:25:40.720 If he had slept with 150 women, but he wanted to settle down with you?

02:25:44.180 I think he was...

02:25:44.960 If he was ready to settle down, then that's fine as long as he's clean.

02:25:48.280 And now it's just him and I were...

02:25:49.260 So that wouldn't be a deal-breaker, right?

02:25:50.640 Right.

02:25:51.060 Okay, but for men, that's a deal-breaker.

02:25:54.180 But for a majority of men, I want to know why.

02:25:56.940 Yeah, okay.

02:25:57.940 Maybe logically.

02:25:59.440 Yeah, yeah.

02:25:59.780 Well, actually, it should logically make sense.

02:26:03.100 Hypocrisy, people use this word the wrong way.

02:26:06.720 Hypocrisy doesn't mean I'm guilty of the thing in which I'm telling you not to do.

02:26:10.960 That's not hypocrisy. 0.62

02:26:12.680 Hypocrisy has an experience of pretending.

02:26:17.340 So let me give you an example.

02:26:18.260 I smoke, but I tell my children not to smoke.

02:26:21.180 Does that make me a hypocrite? 0.68

02:26:22.280 Should I tell my 10-year-old they can smoke?

02:26:26.720 Well, I mean, 10 years old, there's a lot of things you shouldn't do at 10.

02:26:29.560 As a parent, I do think that it's confusing for the child if you're telling me not to smoke.

02:26:36.200 That's why it's not hypocrisy.

02:26:37.920 Pretending is what's the hypocrisy. 0.98

02:26:39.260 So if I were to say it's wrong for anybody on planet Earth to smoke and then smoked, I'd be a hypocrite. 0.96

02:26:46.060 But if I'm like a fat person, let's say I'm really fat, right, and I'm around another fat person, say, hey, you should lose some weight, right? 0.89

02:26:53.380 That's not hypocrisy.

02:26:55.120 That person actually maybe should lose some weight.

02:26:57.580 You actually being fat doesn't have anything to do with whether or not that person should lose weight or not.

02:27:01.980 It would only be if you said, right, I myself, right, as a not fat person, am telling you not to lose weight. 0.99

02:27:10.620 That would then make you a hypocrite, right? 0.98

02:27:13.160 But hypocrisy has – you have to have some type of pretending associator. 0.98

02:27:19.260 It's not hypocrisy.

02:27:20.440 People confuse this with just you are guilty of the same thing you're telling the other person not to do.

02:27:26.080 A great example of this.

02:27:28.040 I was a former drug addict, let's say, and I'm telling people not to be drug addicts. 0.91

02:27:32.860 Am I a hypocrite?

02:27:34.080 No, because you've changed your ways and you're trying to – I would think that as a man, you're trying to lead by example.

02:27:39.400 Right.

02:27:39.580 That's what a traditional man is. 0.97

02:27:40.720 But if I was – if I said, okay, I'm a former drug addict, you should stop being a drug addict and secretly did drugs, would I be a hypocrite then? 0.97

02:27:49.820 Yeah. 0.95

02:27:50.300 Right.

02:27:50.860 That's what actual hypocrisy is.

02:27:53.180 So if a man –

02:27:53.700 I need to see the definition.

02:27:54.560 No, I'm just kidding.

02:27:54.980 If a man – so if a man has a preference and he says, I don't want a woman who has a high body count, right? 1.00

02:28:03.540 But he's fine with his own high body count.

02:28:06.000 That's not hypocrisy.

02:28:08.380 Okay.

02:28:08.900 I mean, to me, I'm still not convinced.

02:28:11.080 It still seems like an unfair – like, I mean, obviously, people can have their preferences.

02:28:15.260 Well, you can say it's not fair.

02:28:16.600 Yeah, I just don't understand.

02:28:17.420 You can't say it's hypocrisy.

02:28:19.000 I don't know.

02:28:20.500 What's hypocritical about it?

02:28:22.100 Being guilty of that which you're accusing the other person, that's not hypocrisy.

02:28:25.540 Depending on the why.

02:28:27.860 But so when you say it's unfair, right?

02:28:30.020 I couldn't – I can't think of a better word to use.

02:28:32.520 That's why.

02:28:33.240 That's fine.

02:28:33.260 But let's go ahead and grant –

02:28:34.380 Double standard, maybe?

02:28:36.080 Yeah.

02:28:36.480 That might be better.

02:28:37.480 Let's go ahead and grant –

02:28:38.280 Why is there a double standard?

02:28:39.300 Yeah.

02:28:40.140 I'm so sorry.

02:28:40.920 That's okay.

02:28:41.720 Let's go ahead and grant that it's unfair.

02:28:45.060 So?

02:28:47.140 Yeah.

02:28:47.780 I'm just trying to understand where the logic is behind it.

02:28:51.480 If you guys –

02:28:52.320 What do you mean?

02:28:53.340 The logic of what?

02:28:54.580 The logic of why it's okay for – I'm not going to say you.

02:28:57.720 Men typically always are – they are known for sleeping around.

02:29:01.440 If they can get it, they're going to take it because maybe women – 1.00

02:29:04.120 I'm sorry.

02:29:04.920 Well, can you clarify?

02:29:05.980 When you say it's okay, what specifically –

02:29:08.680 Because I don't think I'm making the claim that it's okay for men to be promiscuous.

02:29:14.460 But I am saying it's okay for a man who has a high body count to date a woman who has a low body count or who's a virgin.

02:29:22.640 And I'm not disagreeing with that. 0.99

02:29:24.680 I just think it's the shame and the you're disgusting and you're calling – 0.98

02:29:28.920 It's revolting and yet they're sleeping around doing the same. 0.98

02:29:32.340 I'm actually fine with that too.

02:29:33.920 I'm fine with that too.

02:29:34.960 Andrew, of course you are.

02:29:35.940 But are you saying it's revolting for both to be doing it?

02:29:39.160 Or just women? 1.00

02:29:39.820 Like both to be promiscuous or just women? 1.00

02:29:41.180 So I – my viewpoint always follows from Christian ethics.

02:29:44.540 So promiscuity in men is just – from my view, right, is a no-no just like it is with women. 1.00

02:29:50.640 But while that's prescriptively true, meaning this is a prescription I give men and women, I'm also going to give a descriptive truth.

02:29:57.340 The descriptive truth is that it's less of a big deal for women than it is for men.

02:30:01.380 And because that is the case that women perceive it that way versus men, the societal damage is always going to be lesser if men do it than if women do. 0.96

02:30:07.900 Sure.

02:30:08.320 Yeah, that makes sense.

02:30:09.220 Simple.

02:30:09.740 Honestly.

02:30:10.540 There's my prescription.

02:30:11.740 My prescription is that neither of you should do this.

02:30:14.400 But descriptively, if this behavior is found in one sex versus the other, it's more damaging.

02:30:18.940 That's why we have virtues.

02:30:20.540 That's what femininity and masculinity is. 1.00

02:30:22.900 It's a tie to virtue from the sex, right? 0.83

02:30:25.160 So if women engage in one type of virtue and it does way more damage if they abandon it versus men, it's feminine.

02:30:32.240 It's masculine. 0.89

02:30:33.220 If men refuse the virtue and does way more damage to society, that's a masculine virtue. 0.96

02:30:37.100 So you're saying societally because men typically do do it – hold on.

02:30:41.680 Let me take this back.

02:30:42.320 No, no.

02:30:42.680 The ramifications on society are – it's not as bad, right?

02:30:47.860 The outcomes are not as bad if men –

02:30:49.280 Because women are generally more accepting of a high body.

02:30:51.500 No, not just that.

02:30:52.300 Because of reproduction.

02:30:53.060 There's a reproductive element which goes into it, which would make it worse, especially for the outcome for children, if it is the case that women are promiscuous versus men. 0.98

02:31:04.080 For instance, you could have 300 promiscuous men all screwing the same woman, right, for the purpose of reproduction or whatever.

02:31:15.220 That would be less bad than if you had 300 women get pregnant and be single moms, right? 1.00

02:31:20.040 Ultimately, that would be worse, right?

02:31:21.900 Wait, worse for what?

02:31:23.060 Just for society in general.

02:31:24.540 If there was 300 single moms versus one single mom, right, that would still be worse, you would agree, right? 1.00

02:31:31.680 I don't know.

02:31:32.220 Are you trying to make kids?

02:31:33.620 I don't – yeah.

02:31:34.580 It's not a matter of making kids.

02:31:35.920 I get what you're saying with that.

02:31:36.400 I'm just trying to give you a scale.

02:31:37.980 Yeah.

02:31:38.420 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:31:38.520 That's it.

02:31:38.920 Just like a sliding scale.

02:31:40.300 Yeah.

02:31:40.600 I'm not saying any of it's good.

02:31:42.040 Right.

02:31:42.360 Just which would be more optimal, which would be better.

02:31:44.620 Which makes sense.

02:31:45.060 Personally, my boyfriend and my ex right before him both had very low body counts.

02:31:53.780 I don't know the exacts, but I know it's pretty low.

02:31:56.120 And I actually appreciated that in him.

02:31:58.940 Okay.

02:31:59.600 Yeah, we're not even saying that there's a matter of appreciation.

02:32:02.740 We're just saying that ultimately, here's what I see, that women, generally speaking, have a lesser interest in the male body count than the men do with the female body count.

02:32:13.880 And I also see the outcomes of if you have promiscuous women because they can reproduce and men can't seems to actually be worse if women are promiscuous than men because men can be promiscuous with a small pool of women, right? 0.69

02:32:26.460 But if women become promiscuous with a large pool of men, there's going to be reproduction. 1.00

02:32:30.740 Is there a component here, too, to the – I guess the unfairness and the double standard is that – and I agree with Andrew insofar as I don't think either men or women should be promiscuous. 0.95

02:32:42.880 I don't think promiscuity is good in men or women. 0.98

02:32:46.040 But I do know that there is some cohort of men who – for example, if a woman sleeps with a bunch of men, she's a slut. 0.99

02:32:55.540 If a guy sleeps with a bunch of women, he's a stud. 1.00

02:32:58.340 Like it's – and not all – trust me, there's men who frown on the guy who's promiscuous, too, like I just said.

02:33:05.700 Right.

02:33:06.160 Like me. 1.00

02:33:06.840 I call them fucking degenerates. 1.00

02:33:09.640 I like that we've gotten here, though. 1.00

02:33:12.220 This is great.

02:33:12.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:33:13.520 But there is some men who will be impressed by a man who's sexually successful with a lot of women.

02:33:26.200 So is that a component of your argument?

02:33:28.720 Yeah.

02:33:29.280 I mean that's a huge part of it.

02:33:31.100 So I mean I'm understanding where Andrew came from with the whole –

02:33:34.060 Right.

02:33:34.600 I mean I would – again, just to be clear, not in favor of male promiscuity.

02:33:39.060 Right.

02:33:39.560 But my – I guess my response to that would be when it comes to the impressiveness factor or men who sleep with a lot of women, they're like, oh, that's – you're such a stud.

02:33:48.920 You're so cool. 0.99

02:33:49.580 So the reality is any single woman, if she wanted to, could be a slut. 1.00

02:33:55.580 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:33:55.940 Any single woman could be a slut. 1.00

02:33:58.080 Very, very few men can be a slut. 1.00

02:34:01.360 Like most men, average man, he can't sleep with a new girl every single day. 0.99

02:34:08.960 Every single girl at this table, if you wanted to, you could sleep with a new guy every single day of the week. 1.00

02:34:16.000 You could probably fuck three guys in a day. 1.00

02:34:17.680 You could probably fuck ten guys. 1.00

02:34:18.960 Oh, man. 1.00

02:34:19.520 I see you shaking your head.

02:34:20.820 I will prove this to you.

02:34:21.900 I will put a bet on the table right now for 500 bucks that if you and I go out to the street right now with a cardboard sign, you hold it up and say I'll sleep with any man who wants, and I hold it up and say I'll sleep with any woman who wants, which one of us is getting picked up first?

02:34:35.160 Which one of us is getting picked up first?

02:34:36.820 Probably me.

02:34:37.320 Yeah, why do you disagree, I guess?

02:34:40.960 I mean, yeah, it's easier for a woman to go out and sleep around, but for some women, that's not the case. 1.00

02:34:48.820 And for some men, it's easy to go sleep around.

02:34:51.220 So it's like, you can't even say it's easier for one gender over the other because it's up to looks at the end of the day.

02:34:57.640 There's attractive men who can sleep around, and there's attractive women who can sleep around. 0.99

02:35:01.260 Well, okay. 0.98

02:35:01.960 So look, just to be clear, I'm not saying that there's zero men who are sluts. 0.96

02:35:07.520 That's not even my argument. 0.98

02:35:08.820 There absolutely are men who can sleep with a bunch of women. 0.80

02:35:12.880 This is not what I'm disputing.

02:35:15.300 And then I think men, either if they're really good looking, they can do this.

02:35:18.360 If they have exceptional top tier charisma or personality, they can do it. 0.63

02:35:24.360 If they're super wealthy but they're a dork, it's probably still going to be a little hard. 0.57

02:35:29.720 But, like, if they're super rich, it might help.

02:35:32.960 And then if status, like she said, status celebrity, so like a professional athlete, a musician, an actor, these men, even if they're not really that good looking or they don't have great personalities or whatever.

02:35:46.140 Although sometimes status tends to give the aura or the halo of charisma, even if there's not actually any there. 0.87

02:35:54.120 But, yeah, so those are the scenarios in which men can be sluts, so to speak. 0.96

02:36:02.240 But I don't think most men fall into those categories. 0.69

02:36:06.240 Most men don't fall into those categories.

02:36:08.700 So the reality is you can take – here, look. 0.81

02:36:11.720 You can take a woman who's average looking, who's got a terrible personality, no personality, terrible personality. 1.00

02:36:18.900 She has zero status. 0.96

02:36:20.360 She has no fame.

02:36:22.340 She has no money. 1.00

02:36:23.400 She's not – she doesn't have any of these things.

02:36:26.420 She could hop on Tinder and sleep with three guys a day if she wanted to.

02:36:32.020 Most women don't want to do that, but if they – if she could is what I'm trying to get at. 0.90

02:36:38.260 Whereas, like, most men just can't do that.

02:36:42.700 You mean physically?

02:36:43.900 I'm sorry.

02:36:44.540 What do you mean physically?

02:36:45.500 You mean they can't do that physically?

02:36:47.860 No, what I'm saying is they wouldn't –

02:36:49.480 Like on the apps.

02:36:50.140 They're not going to get enough apps.

02:36:51.220 Why can't they do it?

02:36:52.020 Even with, like – so there's a degree of effort too, right?

02:36:56.720 Like a guy who's really good looking but he stays inside all the time and doesn't communicate with women but otherwise could get laid, isn't going to get laid.

02:37:04.960 So there is a degree of effort that's involved.

02:37:06.740 But I would argue, like, an average looking guy, even if he's, like, putting in, like, a really good faith effort, like he spends three hours a day on dating apps.

02:37:14.920 He spends another hour or two messaging back and forth with different women.

02:37:19.120 He's not going to get laid every single day.

02:37:22.200 Whereas a woman, I think you could get on a dating – you could spend about an hour on a dating app, do some messaging. 1.00

02:37:27.360 You could fuck three dudes in a day. 0.99

02:37:29.100 See, I think us women see it completely – for me, anyway. 1.00

02:37:32.780 I see it completely opposite.

02:37:34.240 I was on, like, every app there was.

02:37:37.100 And I got a lot of play, especially as, like, a masculine-presenting person.

02:37:40.960 But I think it was because I was a more masculine-presenting person that I got so much play.

02:37:47.020 So for me, I would definitely say that if I was biologically male, it would be so much easier for me to swipe right and link up than it would be for – because then, like he said, like, women have periods. 0.94

02:37:59.940 You know, you should try that.

02:38:01.020 I mean, we just –

02:38:01.960 You should try that.

02:38:03.160 I have, and it was great.

02:38:04.640 Going to you, though, have you been on dating apps at all?

02:38:07.640 Yes.

02:38:08.020 Okay.

02:38:08.940 How many guys do you swipe no on the dating apps?

02:38:13.320 I don't know.

02:38:14.180 I haven't been on recently, but quite a few.

02:38:18.720 Quite a few.

02:38:19.940 Like what percentage of men?

02:38:21.280 I don't know.

02:38:21.400 If there's 100 guys, how many do you say no to?

02:38:24.280 Probably, like, 60-40.

02:38:26.460 60-40.

02:38:27.340 Okay, but how many of – okay, so how many of those guys do you meet up with?

02:38:31.860 Two.

02:38:32.420 You've only met up with two.

02:38:33.460 Yes.

02:38:33.580 Okay, let me ask you a question.

02:38:34.680 Of all the men that you've wanted to sleep with, did you sleep with them?

02:38:40.520 No.

02:38:41.380 Okay, what's the rejection rate? 0.99

02:38:43.640 So just to be clear, so you offered essentially not super – I'm not necessarily suggesting super directly, but you offered to the guy basically, here's some pussy. 0.98

02:38:55.080 You gave it to him on a silver platter, and he's like, no. 0.97

02:38:57.440 No, it's not always been the case, but it's been more or less, like – I don't know.

02:39:04.500 In my experience, it's been – I've been willing to, but then it's just, like, the personality is just – I don't know how to explain it.

02:39:12.620 The guy's personality?

02:39:13.700 Yes, it's like –

02:39:14.580 Wait, that's making Brian's point.

02:39:16.040 But it's not good, and it just makes me, like – 0.86

02:39:20.100 Wait, you were willing to have sex in general, but that specific guy – well, I mean, I think we're all willing, in general, to have sex with people.

02:39:29.160 But, yeah, of course – so you're saying – well, that's just a rejection, then.

02:39:31.960 I mean, yeah, but I mean –

02:39:34.040 But, so, okay, but you were saying that – wait, I'm just confused.

02:39:41.140 So, okay, of the men that you've offered sex to, were you turned down?

02:39:47.060 One time, yeah.

02:39:48.380 But just to be clear, I'm not saying, like, you had a boyfriend, and one time he was sick, and he didn't want to have sex that one time.

02:39:54.440 I'm just saying –

02:39:54.960 No, I've been turned down before, yeah.

02:39:56.220 You've been rejected.

02:39:56.880 Yes, I've been – 0.95

02:39:57.620 How many guys have you turned down for sex? 0.99

02:40:00.100 For sex? 0.99

02:40:01.280 I don't really have –

02:40:03.440 Well, I have a way to maybe demonstrate this that everybody will agree with.

02:40:09.040 I call it the flasher hypothetical.

02:40:11.280 It works like this.

02:40:12.640 It works like this.

02:40:14.960 We'll take a 25-year-old random man, 25-year-old random woman. 1.00

02:40:19.760 They have an overcoat on and nothing underneath, and they're flashing people in a random Walmart parking lot.

02:40:25.880 And what they do is they open up the overcoat, and they say, hey, you want to go have sex? 1.00

02:40:29.660 What the fuck? 1.00

02:40:30.440 Tell me, which one, man or woman, is going to have sex almost immediately versus the other one, man or woman? 1.00

02:40:37.920 Who I would have sex with? 0.99

02:40:39.440 No, no, no. 0.97

02:40:39.860 Who any normal person normally would?

02:40:42.780 Probably a woman. 1.00

02:40:43.800 Okay, next.

02:40:44.700 I'd definitely say a woman.

02:40:45.960 Next?

02:40:46.440 Oh, yeah.

02:40:47.460 Next?

02:40:48.200 Next?

02:40:48.420 Wait.

02:40:49.240 I'm kind of confused on the question.

02:40:50.540 Woman? 0.96

02:40:51.140 Woman? 0.96

02:40:52.080 Okay, that's the end of that then.

02:40:53.540 Right?

02:40:53.900 Done.

02:40:54.880 That's the end of that.

02:40:55.460 Women are more desirable. 1.00

02:40:57.300 But you're done.

02:40:58.980 To bring it back to this, though, the whole thing was is like, okay, why is there this double standard where men are kind of exalted for their promiscuity?

02:41:07.620 Not by all people, but by, you know, some group of men, whereas women are almost kind of universally looked down upon if they're promiscuous.

02:41:16.120 It really just comes down to the impressiveness of the achievement.

02:41:19.720 That makes sense.

02:41:20.100 I think, I think to some degree, it's incredibly easy for women to get laid, whereas for men, there's some degree of skill and complexity in order to achieve that.

02:41:34.140 So for men?

02:41:35.720 Like, as a woman, you don't need skill to get laid. 1.00

02:41:38.840 By the way, as demonstrated by our hypothetical.

02:41:41.400 Yeah.

02:41:42.020 Okay?

02:41:42.740 As demonstrated by our hypothetical.

02:41:44.420 Go ahead.

02:41:44.640 I don't know.

02:41:45.340 I've seen some pretty grimy, not, I don't know how to explain it.

02:41:52.040 Just some grimy guys being able to get laid easily.

02:41:54.940 Sure.

02:41:55.900 Yeah.

02:41:57.120 There's a guy who actually spread STDs around a school in my town because he was just sleeping around.

02:42:03.720 Well, was he grimy because of the STDs?

02:42:05.060 And there's going to be lots of other men who were around him who were like, how did you do that?

02:42:08.940 He was just grimy in general.

02:42:09.340 But if a woman's doing that, there's no women around who are like, how did you do that? 1.00

02:42:13.140 They all know how she did that.

02:42:14.280 Right.

02:42:14.380 She just offered it up and men were like, sure.

02:42:16.360 Yeah.

02:42:17.100 Simple.

02:42:17.440 So it kind of comes down to like a skill thing.

02:42:19.860 Like, oh, you don't even have to work for it.

02:42:21.580 So it's not.

02:42:22.380 So men are just, are they angrier then?

02:42:24.660 Are some men angrier?

02:42:25.460 I mean, they wouldn't be angry.

02:42:26.180 That.

02:42:26.460 No.

02:42:26.980 No. 1.00

02:42:27.460 Or just that they're like, damn, I want to be able to have sex more, but women get to do it easily. 1.00

02:42:33.360 Let me, I guess. 0.99

02:42:34.460 No, it wouldn't be either of those things.

02:42:35.720 I pose this question to you, I guess going around the table.

02:42:40.120 Of the men that you've had sex with. 0.97

02:42:42.540 Or, well, of the men that you wanted to have sex with. 0.91

02:42:46.220 And let's be reasonable here. 0.72

02:42:47.260 Like, you probably wanted to have sex with some like really attractive celebrity, but he's not in your, he's not in your orbit, really.

02:42:55.000 I'm talking about men you have like in-person contact. 1.00

02:42:58.260 What the fuck, what the fuck, what the fuck is going on here? 1.00

02:43:02.800 What the fuck is going on here? 1.00

02:43:04.720 What is, what is this? 1.00

02:43:06.800 What is this?

02:43:07.820 What happened?

02:43:09.040 Yeah.

02:43:10.120 Well, you said like celebrity.

02:43:12.640 And then I looked over, she's beet red.

02:43:15.260 And giggling.

02:43:16.440 She's beet red.

02:43:17.260 Okay.

02:43:17.720 So spill it.

02:43:18.460 Spill the beans.

02:43:19.180 I'm in filmmaking.

02:43:20.080 Oh, okay.

02:43:21.680 Okay.

02:43:22.360 Why are they repeating your lines?

02:43:23.560 Was it?

02:43:24.160 That was for your lines.

02:43:25.420 Was that my line?

02:43:26.640 Jared Leto?

02:43:28.120 Yeah.

02:43:28.580 No.

02:43:28.920 But I have friends that, no.

02:43:30.480 Did you say ooh?

02:43:31.520 No.

02:43:32.040 Oh.

02:43:32.360 She said ooh.

02:43:32.960 Did you?

02:43:33.620 I mean, I guess.

02:43:34.460 Was there a Leto connection?

02:43:36.720 No, not from, I know people that know him and that are on him.

02:43:39.980 No.

02:43:40.620 That would be great.

02:43:41.220 Spill the beans.

02:43:42.280 No.

02:43:42.700 I'm on, I can, I see some of these people.

02:43:45.640 Spill the beans.

02:43:46.060 We're on the red carpet.

02:43:46.960 Spill the beans.

02:43:47.140 Your face was bright red.

02:43:48.660 It was bright red.

02:43:49.760 Okay.

02:43:50.360 Spill the beans.

02:43:51.280 No, he didn't get to finish his sentence.

02:43:53.640 That's obfuscation.

02:43:54.700 Don't let her obfuscate.

02:43:55.760 She's got to spill the beans. 0.99

02:43:56.860 Yeah.

02:43:57.400 He was, you were in the middle of saying something.

02:43:59.020 Here, why don't we do this?

02:44:00.360 Was it an athlete, musician, or actor?

02:44:02.540 Actor.

02:44:03.260 Actor.

02:44:04.020 Actor, actor.

02:44:06.320 A-list?

02:44:07.460 Yes.

02:44:08.620 Leo?

02:44:09.540 Nah.

02:44:10.520 I was actually, I used to be, Leo's great.

02:44:13.620 No, not Leo and I, but I've met Leo a couple times.

02:44:16.380 No, Leo's great.

02:44:18.400 I met him a couple times.

02:44:19.500 I really liked him.

02:44:20.360 Please don't take this offensively, or don't take offense to this.

02:44:24.420 You're probably too old for Leo.

02:44:25.860 I think so.

02:44:26.240 I think that's what happened.

02:44:26.960 No, I think that's what happened.

02:44:27.840 By possibly a couple of decades.

02:44:29.220 I think that he met me and he was like, ooh, so close.

02:44:29.940 He only dates like 20, under 25 or whatever.

02:44:33.060 And that's okay.

02:44:33.720 I'm okay with being too old for that.

02:44:35.680 We're going to read a couple chats, but we can come back to the convo in a bit.

02:44:38.260 We got four.

02:44:39.340 It looks like Lucas.

02:44:40.080 Because, yes, there are double standards.

02:44:43.300 It just is.

02:44:44.400 Trust me.

02:44:44.840 There are double standards that go the other way.

02:44:47.140 When I turned 18, this is Lucas, by the way.

02:44:49.320 I signed up with selective, I'm pretty sure.

02:44:51.380 Selective service, you didn't.

02:44:53.220 When the Titanic goes, and he's going to continue here.

02:44:56.420 Thank you, Lucas.

02:44:57.060 Appreciate it.

02:44:58.180 Two.

02:44:58.900 We just.

02:44:59.680 Titanic goes down.

02:45:01.080 You get whisked away to the lifeboat.

02:45:02.820 I hang out and listen to the chamber orchestra.

02:45:05.760 If we each go to the new trendy club, and for those who don't know the reference, when

02:45:10.900 the Titanic was going down, the symphony orchestra was playing.

02:45:14.480 They're women. 1.00

02:45:14.980 They've all seen the Titanic.

02:45:16.060 I don't know.

02:45:17.140 I had it when it was like double VHS.

02:45:19.500 If we each go to the new trendy club, you get in right away without paying cover. 0.90

02:45:24.520 I wait in line like a schmuck for hours, only get in if I'm lucky, and still pay the $100 0.97

02:45:30.720 cover. 0.96

02:45:31.280 When the beaches of Normandy needed storming, a bunch of 18-year-old boys were sent off to

02:45:40.400 do the storming, while you stayed back and played Rosie the Riveter, double standards

02:45:45.920 are simply part and parcel of the complementary, yet contrasting reproductive strategies.

02:45:52.200 I don't think they're complementary, ultimately.

02:45:54.520 I think that one's dominant, and the other's not dominant.

02:45:59.400 I don't even think it's complementary.

02:46:00.480 I wouldn't even give it complementarian status.

02:46:05.220 I'm just unwilling to do that.

02:46:07.020 I have better arguments for why it's not complementarian.

02:46:09.720 Dude, I know who it was.

02:46:11.780 Who?

02:46:12.100 Carrot Top.

02:46:13.140 Oh my god, no.

02:46:14.520 What?

02:46:15.020 You definitely did Carrot Top.

02:46:16.220 You know what?

02:46:16.900 Listen.

02:46:18.240 No, but in, yeah.

02:46:19.780 Would you do Carrot Top?

02:46:22.060 Who's Carrot Top?

02:46:22.740 You know what I'm talking about?

02:46:23.400 Are the lights off?

02:46:24.360 He's not as like...

02:46:25.280 He's like 18 or 19.

02:46:26.400 She would.

02:46:27.480 Carrot Top, dude.

02:46:28.040 Is he still out and relevant?

02:46:30.560 I don't know if he's done any comedy things lately. 1.00

02:46:32.660 He draws his fucking eyebrows in. 0.99

02:46:34.500 I mean, come on. 1.00

02:46:35.120 Oh, we have a message here from Andrew's wife.

02:46:37.100 This is Rachel Wilson, Andrew's wife.

02:46:38.440 Rachel.

02:46:38.940 The hormonal roller coaster is real.

02:46:41.680 Andrew is right.

02:46:42.460 Sometimes I just need a nap, and I'm being hysterical.

02:46:45.140 Women need to understand this so they don't blow up their lives because of mood swings. 1.00

02:46:50.000 You've got a big face on this.

02:46:52.080 Do you want to...

02:46:52.700 What do you think about the comment from Andrew's wife?

02:46:55.040 What do you think there?

02:46:56.540 Well, she can accept it.

02:46:58.520 That's why she is his wife. 0.78

02:47:01.240 Sorry.

02:47:01.880 Okay.

02:47:03.780 I mean, you can just like kind of lie and pretend that that doesn't happen with women, but it 1.00

02:47:08.080 fucking happens with women. 1.00

02:47:10.020 Yeah. 1.00

02:47:10.180 And if you talk to every man who's been in a relationship with a woman, they all have 0.90

02:47:15.620 seen this time and time and time again, where it's like, how come you're 1.00

02:47:19.080 how come my normally rational and pretty reasonable significant other has just lost her fucking 1.00

02:47:24.320 mind? 0.99

02:47:24.960 And by the way, they actually, and this is something a lot of men won't tell you.

02:47:30.160 A lot of men take preparation.

02:47:31.720 They have preparations for this event. 0.99

02:47:33.580 They actually, like a survival kit, like a fucking survival kit in their home, like a 0.98

02:47:38.480 first aid kit, like a, like a flare kit. 0.94

02:47:41.060 But if you're, if you're stuck on the side of the road, they have a preparation strategy

02:47:44.860 where they're like, here's what happens.

02:47:46.580 When this thing happens, I'm ready for it.

02:47:49.520 Bam, bam, bam.

02:47:50.620 They have it all in place.

02:47:52.200 You think I'm crazy.

02:47:53.200 There's going to be men in the chat right now are telling you, I'm telling you, they're

02:47:56.000 going to be like, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

02:47:59.840 I'm ready.

02:48:00.540 I'm ready.

02:48:00.960 I'm ready.

02:48:01.600 I love this just because it's like all we're asking for some understanding.

02:48:04.640 I'm not saying I'm being rational on that one month.

02:48:07.000 Sometimes I'm extra sleepy.

02:48:08.280 It's like I'm in a coma or it could be the opposite.

02:48:10.200 So I'm not saying I need you to lie to me.

02:48:12.540 Just understand that if I'm losing my mind in this moment, how do you differentiate between

02:48:17.720 when a woman's being hysterical to you and when she actually genuinely does need you?

02:48:21.760 Here's the thing that's really interesting about delusion.

02:48:24.780 The thing, and it is, it is, well, hang on.

02:48:27.180 It is a form of delusion.

02:48:28.200 I'll explain.

02:48:29.040 If you have a rush of hormones you would not normally have, right, it can make you crazy.

02:48:34.840 You could do this with any human being on planet Earth.

02:48:37.100 You could perhaps take a man, right, and rush him with all sorts of like positive male hormones 0.97

02:48:42.640 and they go fucking berserko, right, and, you know, possibly rip doors off, handles, do 0.99

02:48:47.560 crazy shit like that. 0.99

02:48:48.800 The thing about delusion, which is so interesting, is that the person who's deluded doesn't know 1.00

02:48:52.780 they're deluded.

02:48:53.740 So you can't actually rationally, reasonably.

02:48:56.600 But how do you as her husband know when she's being delusional versus when she's like

02:49:02.260 genuinely meeting you?

02:49:03.420 It's just like, I've been with her for years and years and years.

02:49:05.740 But what about someone who's in a new marriage, let's say, or a new relationship?

02:49:08.380 Well, it's not hard to detect, usually for most men, that like, wow, this person was 1.00

02:49:13.480 really cool 24 hours ago and now they've lost their fucking mind. 1.00

02:49:17.500 That's really weird. 1.00

02:49:18.920 And they continue, and then, wait, four days later, they seem like they haven't lost their 0.99

02:49:22.940 fucking mind anymore. 0.99

02:49:23.880 That's really odd. 0.99

02:49:24.980 But I think like as the woman who's going through something that you might consider delusional

02:49:29.600 and maybe she, in the back of her mind, does know, realistically, this is not something

02:49:33.780 to blow up about.

02:49:35.000 It's about having a partner who understands that like...

02:49:37.400 They do blow up about it, though.

02:49:38.880 Who?

02:49:39.400 That's the problem with the delusion, right?

02:49:41.000 It's like, if you're in the delusion, you don't know how bad you are.

02:49:43.760 I know, I know, but eventually you cool off, and it's like having a partner who has the

02:49:46.800 empathy to like ride with you through that rollercoaster of emotion, because what you're

02:49:50.400 saying is...

02:49:50.760 How is that empathetic?

02:49:51.960 The empathy towards...

02:49:53.040 Because it's something you said hormonal that you can't even change.

02:49:55.520 No, where is the empathy the other direction?

02:49:56.640 The empathy the other direction should be like, look, I'm literally Jekyll and Hyde, and when 0.92

02:50:01.920 I turn into fucking Hyde, I want you to be empathetic. 0.99

02:50:04.700 It's like, what the fuck is that? 1.00

02:50:06.080 No. 0.99

02:50:06.820 When you turn into Hyde, when you become the monster, right, from Dr. Jekyll, it's

02:50:12.720 like, the best empathy they have...

02:50:15.100 It's not just taking a pill on purpose to make it happen.

02:50:17.040 It doesn't matter.

02:50:17.960 It doesn't matter why you turn into Hyde.

02:50:20.060 It doesn't matter why you turn into Hyde.

02:50:21.700 It just matters that you do.

02:50:23.280 Well, sometimes it does matter.

02:50:24.760 Like, if your wife, for example, is drinking heavily, and she turns into Jekyll because of

02:50:29.340 her drinking, that's a choice.

02:50:30.820 But to have a period, it's not a woman's choice to have. 0.98

02:50:34.120 Yeah, but what would a man do in both situations?

02:50:35.680 Same thing.

02:50:36.800 Be like, well, you gotta stop drinking, so you don't turn into Hyde, right?

02:50:39.660 You can't stop having a period.

02:50:40.940 Right, but here's the thing that's interesting about that, right?

02:50:44.400 You can't stop that.

02:50:45.640 But it's actually maximum empathy for a man to be like, look, you don't get to treat 0.99

02:50:49.880 me like shit, even if you can't help it. 0.99

02:50:52.580 I agree. 1.00

02:50:53.060 That's fucking bullshit. 1.00

02:50:54.420 I agree with that. 1.00

02:50:54.440 Not to treat anyone like that.

02:50:55.860 Not disagree at all.

02:50:57.500 Yeah, correct.

02:50:58.560 There's boundaries.

02:50:59.440 There's levels to it.

02:51:00.240 But if the woman's not name-calling, she's not, you know, throwing things, she's not being 1.00

02:51:03.420 extremely hysterical.

02:51:04.500 No, that's not it.

02:51:05.360 That's not it.

02:51:05.840 There's a spectrum to it.

02:51:06.880 No, no, no, no, no.

02:51:07.520 That's not just it.

02:51:08.780 It also is like, you might not be making rational decisions, even if you're being nice to me,

02:51:13.880 that you normally would make.

02:51:15.700 You know what I mean?

02:51:16.520 Things like that.

02:51:17.060 It's not just a matter of like, you need to still be nice to me, even when you turn into

02:51:21.240 Hyde.

02:51:21.720 Yeah.

02:51:21.920 It's also, you're not allowed to make like big, big financial decisions, big decisions

02:51:26.360 about this. 0.98

02:51:27.120 You're not allowed to like, I don't know, embarrass me at a fucking party or something like you're 0.99

02:51:32.160 not allowed to do any of those things. 0.99

02:51:33.280 I get having boundaries around those things.

02:51:34.840 I just would hope that, you know, since you're married to a woman who can't help but have 0.98

02:51:39.700 those things happen to her each month, that you would have some empathy for her situation

02:51:43.920 that she's not choosing to turn into the jackpot.

02:51:45.940 But don't you understand like the biggest amount of empathy is exactly the idea of like,

02:51:50.280 I'm still going to listen to you because I know, right?

02:51:53.980 Somewhere in me, I know that this is not, even though I can't quite detect it, like most

02:51:58.780 women can't, they don't know when they're in it, that they're in it, right? 1.00

02:52:02.100 Even though they kind of do, right?

02:52:04.900 They kind of do.

02:52:05.900 In the moment, it's hard to admit.

02:52:08.160 Yeah, it's hard to admit and it's even hard to like deal with, right?

02:52:11.900 So isn't the best thing to do from the empathetic level to deal with a rational

02:52:15.600 person guiding you through that to be like, look, you're out of control, stop, and you

02:52:21.100 actually listen.

02:52:22.780 Like imagine that.

02:52:23.980 No, I think it works both ways too.

02:52:25.620 Yeah.

02:52:26.300 Having a good partner that has your back like that.

02:52:28.400 Got to move on just a little bit here.

02:52:29.760 I did want to come back just for a moment before we have to do a couple chats here.

02:52:34.040 Just going around the table, when I was talking about, well, it's with a double standard,

02:52:39.100 well, it's easier for women to get laid, harder for men to get laid. 1.00

02:52:43.080 Do you guys agree with that?

02:52:45.600 I think it's easier for women to get laid for sure, especially with the apps. 1.00

02:52:49.440 Yeah.

02:52:49.820 I agree.

02:52:50.460 Yeah, I agree.

02:52:51.180 I agree.

02:52:51.740 Disagree?

02:52:52.380 Agreed?

02:52:52.920 I'm if you are.

02:52:53.560 You disagree?

02:52:55.120 I agree that I understand why it's considered an achievement for men to like have more body

02:53:02.140 count, but it doesn't explain why like it's despised that women have more body count. 1.00

02:53:08.080 Like it's like a different thing.

02:53:09.580 Uh, yeah, well, we kind of, we kind of talked about it, but, uh, I think Andrew got into

02:53:14.960 it with, did you bring up paternity?

02:53:17.000 No, I'll search it here.

02:53:18.040 They find it.

02:53:19.400 It's a, it's a matter of revulsion.

02:53:21.180 So men find it more revolting than women. 1.00

02:53:23.320 Right.

02:53:23.500 She was asking.

02:53:24.480 Literally find it more revolting.

02:53:25.780 So like, I mean, at its root, you're asking a fine question.

02:53:30.480 So you're saying, okay, I get it that there's a higher achievement, right?

02:53:34.000 A higher achievement level.

02:53:35.060 That's why men would honor that over a woman who has a no achievement level because she can 1.00

02:53:38.500 just open her legs and a hundred men will run in. 1.00

02:53:40.440 Right.

02:53:41.520 But what about the revulsion level?

02:53:43.580 If one sex is less revolted by an activity than another sex, right? 0.95

02:53:47.900 How do you reconcile that?

02:53:49.400 Like, what do you do about that?

02:53:51.960 Revolting meaning disgusting?

02:53:53.360 Yeah. 0.61

02:53:53.560 They just find it more disgusting than the other sex does. 1.00

02:53:56.720 You mean men find that more revolting? 0.96

02:53:59.260 They find it more disgusting when women have a higher body count than women find it disgusting 1.00

02:54:02.680 when men do. 0.57

02:54:03.860 Why is this so?

02:54:04.920 I, I hear.

02:54:05.660 I think it's, I think it's rooted.

02:54:07.340 It's more of like a cultural thing.

02:54:08.640 I don't think it's cultural.

02:54:09.700 I actually have something really good on this.

02:54:12.040 Um, would you agree that women will find physical weakness in men, uh, as less attractive

02:54:21.700 than if men, than men finding, uh, physical weakness in women?

02:54:26.640 Does that make sense?

02:54:27.820 No.

02:54:28.660 So, okay.

02:54:29.120 When it comes, okay.

02:54:29.840 He asked it wrong.

02:54:31.020 Yeah.

02:54:31.180 Okay.

02:54:31.700 The trait of physical weakness.

02:54:34.280 Yeah.

02:54:34.500 Men are going to be very forgiving of physical weakness.

02:54:37.920 In women. 0.92

02:54:38.220 In women. 0.92

02:54:38.900 However.

02:54:39.320 Maybe prefer it.

02:54:41.100 Hmm.

02:54:41.700 Sometimes.

02:54:42.240 Uh, sure.

02:54:43.020 Whereas I think physical, like demonstrable physical, like imagine a five pound weight

02:54:48.160 and the guy's like struggling to lift a five pound weight or something like that.

02:54:52.740 I know that's an extreme example, but I, uh, women are going to find physical weakness. 1.00

02:54:58.040 I think much more unattractive.

02:55:01.400 Than men. 0.69

02:55:02.160 Does that make sense?

02:55:02.680 It depends on the person.

02:55:03.800 Does that make sense?

02:55:03.900 Because I know women who love a lanky boy.

02:55:06.120 Listen, listen.

02:55:06.640 You know, there's no example you could ever give about anything on planet earth where

02:55:10.140 we couldn't say it depends on the person.

02:55:11.340 Yeah.

02:55:11.620 We could talk about murder.

02:55:12.620 Sure.

02:55:12.640 Exactly.

02:55:12.840 We could talk about murder.

02:55:13.840 We could talk about theft.

02:55:14.780 We could talk about the most amorous.

02:55:16.320 We could talk about incest.

02:55:18.140 It depends on the person.

02:55:19.740 Doesn't actually help us with this, right?

02:55:21.800 Yeah.

02:55:21.960 If we're looking at it from a social scale, we would have to look at it at the social scale

02:55:26.140 of how these sexes generally seem to respond to this.

02:55:29.520 Is it the case that generally speaking, at least in all of your experiences, you would definitely

02:55:34.000 prefer to have a man who is at least stronger than you?

02:55:36.640 I mean, that depends.

02:55:39.260 We're in 2025, so you're not building me a house.

02:55:41.740 You're not building me a hut.

02:55:42.860 You're not fighting off saber-toothed tigers.

02:55:45.000 Yeah, but all of those same reasons, like the building the hut and the fighting off the

02:55:51.040 saber-toothed tiger and this and that, would be rudimentary why it was that women were 1.00

02:55:55.160 attracted to that to begin with.

02:55:56.400 Yeah.

02:55:56.640 It's built in biologically.

02:55:58.140 Well, no.

02:55:58.460 It's just always.

02:55:58.640 Well, kind of back in the day.

02:55:59.300 You still had tribes where there was women that were the warriors, too. 0.55

02:56:02.780 Yeah.

02:56:03.060 I know.

02:56:03.580 You can do this, that, this, that.

02:56:05.540 Not really.

02:56:05.980 Okay, but even then.

02:56:07.180 Belize?

02:56:07.380 Yeah.

02:56:07.660 No, there really wasn't.

02:56:08.780 So even with periods and.

02:56:09.660 Yeah, there were tribes out of the warriors that were women, but that's, yeah. 1.00

02:56:12.800 And weakness and all of these things.

02:56:14.520 There really wasn't that many tribes where there was women warriors. 1.00

02:56:16.580 I didn't say there was that many.

02:56:17.780 I just said that there was.

02:56:18.880 I don't think so.

02:56:20.320 It's dubious.

02:56:21.100 It's, it's, it's, it's very, the anthropological evidence.

02:56:25.540 Jungle.

02:56:26.100 Jungle.

02:56:26.500 Jungle back again.

02:56:28.120 This guy's a legend.

02:56:29.560 No pineapples?

02:56:30.820 Brian, Andrew needs some pizza pop.

02:56:33.720 So is this a pizza pop?

02:56:35.420 Yeah.

02:56:35.900 Jungle, is this a pizza pop instead of a champagne pop?

02:56:39.200 It's a pizza pop.

02:56:39.820 It's a pizza pop?

02:56:40.800 Why do?

02:56:41.220 Pizza pop.

02:56:41.820 Okay.

02:56:42.020 I'll order us.

02:56:42.840 I'll order, I'll order pizza for the table.

02:56:46.180 We'll do a, we'll do a little pizza.

02:56:48.260 Am I the only one that likes pineapple and pizza?

02:56:50.400 I mentioned it.

02:56:51.100 Don't even say that around him.

02:56:52.640 Oh yeah.

02:56:53.160 I know pineapple.

02:56:54.760 He will just lose his mind.

02:56:56.040 Maybe it's the Asian Pacific island. 0.96

02:56:57.340 My wife, my wife loves it too, but that's how I know that, you know, Satan is involved.

02:57:05.700 There's a little bit of Satan in there somewhere.

02:57:08.340 Somewhere.

02:57:09.120 Does that make sense at all or no?

02:57:11.540 So you're talking about biology.

02:57:14.480 Like if she's a virgin, you're sure that's your kid. 0.79

02:57:17.320 Are you talking about that?

02:57:18.100 Well, yeah.

02:57:18.460 In that case, but he gave you a different example.

02:57:21.320 If it is the case that women are generally attracted to men who are strong.

02:57:26.060 Yeah.

02:57:26.360 So this is like biology or like evolution, right?

02:57:30.340 Like if we're talking about evolution.

02:57:31.780 Well, in this case, we're just talking about even if you didn't know anything about evolution,

02:57:35.620 you knew nothing about it.

02:57:36.840 Let's just pretend you knew nothing.

02:57:38.440 It didn't even exist.

02:57:39.240 Because you would still at least observe that men or women were attracted to men who were strong.

02:57:44.960 Yeah.

02:57:45.300 Yeah.

02:57:45.900 So you can at least observe that.

02:57:47.300 You don't even need an evolutionary explanation.

02:57:49.800 You can at least observe it.

02:57:51.120 And that men generally aren't attracted to women who are stronger than them, right?

02:57:56.300 So you mean it's natural?

02:57:58.320 Well, just observable.

02:57:59.900 You would at least observe that that is the case, right?

02:58:03.860 So, but like you give this example.

02:58:06.140 I need you to answer the question.

02:58:08.180 I see that you're kind of like not answering the question.

02:58:11.720 Is that observable or not?

02:58:14.360 Observable that women prefer strong men. 0.99

02:58:17.900 Yeah.

02:58:18.620 Yeah.

02:58:18.860 Okay.

02:58:19.440 So you can observe that that is the case.

02:58:21.800 Okay.

02:58:22.340 Got it.

02:58:22.740 And then you can observe the counter that men don't seem to prefer particularly strong women.

02:58:30.080 It's not a preference they have. 0.99

02:58:31.560 So when they're looking for women, they're not like, oh, the fact that she can really lift up heavy shit is a big deal for them, right? 0.99

02:58:38.240 Mm-hmm. 0.99

02:58:38.820 You can observe that, right?

02:58:39.980 Yeah.

02:58:40.200 Okay, great.

02:58:41.700 So what Brian's point was is like, if that's the case, we're talking about the distinction and observation in the intersexual dynamic and in the interpersonal dynamic.

02:58:53.580 What were you moving it into from the attraction portion?

02:58:58.680 Sorry.

02:58:59.420 It already slips my mind.

02:59:00.900 Are you serious?

02:59:02.040 Yeah. 1.00

02:59:02.700 I just went through that whole fucking thing. 1.00

02:59:05.340 He's on pizza. 1.00

02:59:06.880 I was on the pizza thing.

02:59:08.260 Well, no, we were, when it came to the disgust thing, right?

02:59:12.220 Oh, yeah, the disgust thing.

02:59:13.200 It would be the same thing.

02:59:14.080 It would just be like, if it is the idea that if like really masculine women, meaning they were stronger than the men, disgusted men, or really weak men, disgusted women, is that like a double standard?

02:59:28.320 I maybe have something.

02:59:29.580 Are there anything when it comes to, for a guy you're thinking about dating, are there any behaviors or traits that you might find disgusting?

02:59:43.320 Being not clean?

02:59:45.420 Okay.

02:59:45.800 Well, I think that could go both ways, but that's fair, certainly.

02:59:48.400 But are there anything maybe specifically related to this guy?

02:59:53.980 Jungle.

02:59:54.860 Okay, hold on.

02:59:56.040 This guy.

02:59:57.380 Okay, this guy.

02:59:58.600 Pizza Pop, bro.

02:59:59.900 And he's getting me a burrito.

03:00:01.280 Jungle for only $1,000.

03:00:03.040 Pop champagne.

03:00:04.620 This guy's a giga chat, dude. 1.00

03:00:06.240 Holy shit. 0.99

03:00:07.180 You're welcome, Brian. 0.98

03:00:07.980 Yeah, thank you, Ian. 0.97

03:00:08.720 Fucking welcome, Brian. 0.99

03:00:10.280 Jungle. 1.00

03:00:10.720 If the man of your dreams fits all your desires, asks you to bow for him, would you?

03:00:15.400 He's a bow fan.

03:00:17.020 He's a bow fan and a bow enjoyer.

03:00:19.200 Really quick.

03:00:19.760 Wait.

03:00:20.300 It's a bow.

03:00:21.020 Bowing.

03:00:21.340 This is a great question.

03:00:22.360 If the man of your dreams fits all your desires, asks you to bow for him, would you?

03:00:27.600 We have to play the bow video.

03:00:29.600 I'm going to get on the, here, let me write down pizza.

03:00:31.180 Oh, is there, this is something different.

03:00:32.560 Hold on.

03:00:33.200 Wait.

03:00:34.100 Jungle, you're a legend, sir.

03:00:35.680 Pizza, I got to also, I got, he's getting. 0.99

03:00:37.620 If he gets fucking pineapple pizza, you're going right off that balcony, dude. 0.98

03:00:41.200 What do you want? 1.00

03:00:41.460 You want pineapple?

03:00:42.860 You want pineapple?

03:00:44.060 Yes.

03:00:44.480 Pepper.

03:00:44.840 Pepper, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, pe, peperoni.

03:00:46.900 Right off the balcony, Brian.

03:00:47.860 You want pepperoni?

03:00:48.600 Pepperoni.

03:00:49.240 Pepperoni.

03:00:50.380 And he did a burrito pop, too.

03:00:52.900 So we'll pull up the bow video in just a sec, then we'll ask them the question.

03:00:56.800 I really quick just wanted to finish up on this.

03:00:59.400 Anything, like, gender specific when it comes to disgust?

03:01:03.140 I'm only thinking about pizza and burrito.

03:01:05.360 Like, how about this, maybe?

03:01:06.800 Like, would you date, are you typically attracted to men who are, like, shorter than you?

03:01:11.860 No.

03:01:12.600 No.

03:01:13.060 Okay.

03:01:13.320 So that would be a bit of an example.

03:01:15.380 It's kind of related to the ick.

03:01:16.680 You guys all get the ick when it comes to guy stuff.

03:01:19.760 You explained the paternity uncertainty, right?

03:01:21.740 Yeah.

03:01:22.000 Yeah.

03:01:23.140 Okay.

03:01:23.760 Last thing I did.

03:01:24.560 Well, I mean, it just comes down to ick.

03:01:26.160 Yeah.

03:01:26.480 It comes down to the ick.

03:01:27.080 It just comes down to preference and ick.

03:01:28.700 Yeah.

03:01:29.000 I don't know why that means more stuff.

03:01:29.820 The Christopher thing for the 20 gifted membership.

03:01:31.940 It comes down to the ick.

03:01:33.140 They get the ick.

03:01:34.000 I have a quick test.

03:01:34.660 Well, you guys get the ick.

03:01:35.720 Yeah, yeah.

03:01:36.020 Guys get the ick.

03:01:36.840 I have a really quick test before we get into the bow video on the, like, the whole, like, 0.93

03:01:40.820 easier to get sex thing because you had some disputes about it.

03:01:44.240 It sounded like you maybe had some disputes.

03:01:46.020 I don't know.

03:01:46.760 So, here, we can test this out really easy.

03:01:51.540 Let's do this.

03:01:52.940 How do we – you gave the example of the coat flasher guy.

03:01:57.460 Yeah.

03:01:57.580 I call it the flasher hypothetical.

03:02:02.020 The flasher hypothetical.

03:02:03.740 The flasher hypothetical.

03:02:04.420 Okay.

03:02:04.540 Here, we're going to do it like – I don't want to do this.

03:02:07.280 Are you pulling up?

03:02:09.200 Oh, no.

03:02:09.620 I'll just – we'll do a really easy test. 1.00

03:02:13.500 We'll go – what the fuck? 0.99

03:02:15.460 Here. 1.00

03:02:17.460 Gabrielle, after the show tonight, would you like to have sex with me? 1.00

03:02:22.620 Go. 1.00

03:02:24.460 I'm sorry.

03:02:25.100 I forgot your name.

03:02:25.720 It's okay.

03:02:26.060 I'm not going to answer.

03:02:26.720 Nameless woman. 1.00

03:02:27.180 Joey. 0.96

03:02:27.320 I forgot your – this is the best way to proposition a woman for sex, by the way, not knowing her 0.98

03:02:32.280 name. 0.88

03:02:33.720 That's a no.

03:02:34.540 Thank you.

03:02:35.060 Miss – excuse me, lady. 0.99

03:02:36.340 Would you like to have sex after the show tonight? 0.99

03:02:38.080 I'm good. 1.00

03:02:38.500 Thank you.

03:02:38.720 Okay.

03:02:39.800 You've been celibate for, like, three years or something. 0.97

03:02:41.740 Would you like to have sex after the show tonight? 0.92

03:02:43.540 No. 1.00

03:02:44.180 See, you've just been offered sex on a silver platter. 0.99

03:02:47.180 You turn it down. 0.99

03:02:48.360 But wait.

03:02:48.900 There's a silver platter.

03:02:50.320 Hold on.

03:02:51.360 More to it.

03:02:52.040 We're also on a public forum.

03:02:54.000 What if one of these ladies wants to but doesn't want everybody to – that's fair. 1.00

03:02:57.920 No, wait a second.

03:02:58.560 So you guys are lying.

03:02:59.320 Wait, wait.

03:02:59.960 Hang on.

03:03:00.160 I'm being devil's advocate because I've been in situations where I'm lying. 0.99

03:03:02.080 So you guys are lying and you do want to have sex with Brian. 0.98

03:03:05.740 Maybe I don't want a thousand people. 1.00

03:03:06.900 I knew it.

03:03:07.940 I knew it.

03:03:08.520 I still have a chance.

03:03:09.700 But even if that's the case, wouldn't that make his point that, like, if any of you said 0.98

03:03:14.200 yes, he looks like a fucking king, right? 0.73

03:03:17.700 But if after – if after the fact you're like, actually, Brian, you know what? 0.98

03:03:22.060 I actually do kind of want to, like, you know, do this thing with you, right?

03:03:26.000 After the fact.

03:03:27.360 Isn't it because you feel like you're devalued if right now you said yes?

03:03:31.620 What if you're just a private person?

03:03:34.820 Yeah, a private person, why?

03:03:36.940 Like, if you were going to get some, like, esteem boost from that or, like, some crowns

03:03:40.460 for that, wouldn't you be like, yeah, sure?

03:03:42.100 Yeah.

03:03:43.200 Not if we knew that as a heterosexual, which I'm not, like, for these ladies sitting here,

03:03:48.840 if they said yes to that question to one of you guys –

03:03:52.420 You should.

03:03:53.280 Maybe they should.

03:03:54.420 And maybe they want to.

03:03:55.600 You know, but then when they leave here, the other guys who may think like y'all will

03:04:00.740 then devalue them because their body count –

03:04:03.400 But that's the whole point.

03:04:04.360 Yeah.

03:04:04.740 I think we all agreed on that one.

03:04:05.540 Like, you literally hit the nail on the head, right?

03:04:06.820 So the whole point would be he gets the crowns if they say yes, they get the shame if they

03:04:11.320 say yes.

03:04:12.100 So, like, what if after the show we could make some, like, little arrangement or something

03:04:16.660 like this, right?

03:04:17.780 But how –

03:04:18.180 In this case, you don't get the shame portion, right?

03:04:20.360 Isn't that the point? 0.99

03:04:20.720 And whoever does have sex with me after the show, that's your last body. 0.99

03:04:23.720 Like, we're getting married. 0.96

03:04:25.840 So you don't have to worry.

03:04:26.500 Wait.

03:04:26.840 And that is kind of cool.

03:04:27.820 I thought you're someone who doesn't really believe in marriage.

03:04:30.320 Am I wrong?

03:04:30.920 I'm just –

03:04:31.600 Well, first off –

03:04:32.380 Who's taking one for the two days?

03:04:32.980 The question –

03:04:33.920 Just to be clear.

03:04:35.100 Someone husband that man up. 1.00

03:04:37.440 Just to be clear.

03:04:37.940 I feel like I've heard that. 1.00

03:04:39.120 You're all fucking – all of you. 1.00

03:04:40.560 All of you. 1.00

03:04:41.240 All fucking degenerates. 1.00

03:04:42.760 All of you fuckers are degenerates. 1.00

03:04:44.540 Every one of you fucking DJs. 1.00

03:04:46.640 Yes. 0.99

03:04:47.280 Just to be clear, I wasn't genuinely propositioning you guys here.

03:04:51.580 This was for the –

03:04:52.180 Right.

03:04:52.440 What?

03:04:54.720 Wait.

03:04:55.200 Now they're upset.

03:04:56.480 You're getting mad. 1.00

03:04:57.840 What the fuck? 1.00

03:04:58.440 They're like, what the – 1.00

03:04:59.120 Wait a minute. 1.00

03:05:00.800 What the fuck? 1.00

03:05:01.300 What is this? 1.00

03:05:02.140 How dare you say no?

03:05:04.020 How dare you say no, right?

03:05:06.200 Pizza, burritos. 0.99

03:05:07.200 I'm turning them down and they're like, shit, maybe I shouldn't say that. 0.99

03:05:09.960 Maybe I shouldn't say yes. 0.99

03:05:11.300 Yeah.

03:05:11.760 Yeah.

03:05:11.860 Yeah.

03:05:12.300 Supply and demand.

03:05:13.220 Now he's like – 1.00

03:05:14.760 Shit. 1.00

03:05:15.840 Damn, it's crazy. 1.00

03:05:16.820 Okay, I need to get on this pizza. 0.99

03:05:18.100 And then I need to –

03:05:18.160 And she started it.

03:05:18.880 And she was like, well, but Brian, what if after the show it's the case?

03:05:23.900 Just saying.

03:05:25.200 Just saying.

03:05:26.240 Just saying.

03:05:27.040 Yeah.

03:05:27.640 But yeah.

03:05:28.400 Just – 1.00

03:05:28.900 Don't feel uncomfortable with the rest of the show being like, did that guy just try to fuck me? 0.99

03:05:33.500 No. 0.99

03:05:33.640 It was just for the sake of the – what would that be?

03:05:38.600 A rhetorical solicitation of sex? 1.00

03:05:42.160 Fucking de-jet. 1.00

03:05:43.220 No. 1.00

03:05:44.540 It was a rhetorical solicitation of sex. 0.75

03:05:48.020 This is great. 0.82

03:05:49.040 All right.

03:05:49.380 We have – 0.61

03:05:50.000 I was rhetorically asking for sex for the purpose of demonstrating – 0.51

03:05:53.960 Like a rhetorical question.

03:05:54.860 Yeah.

03:05:54.880 I was trying to demonstrate an argument.

03:05:57.860 Yes.

03:05:58.600 Yeah.

03:05:58.900 Yeah.

03:05:59.220 To make a point.

03:05:59.980 Yeah.

03:06:00.220 Because like next time you should make it more extreme, you should be like, hey, will 0.99

03:06:04.440 you give me a blowjob after the show? 1.00

03:06:06.220 You should just like take it one step like to the next, you know what I mean? 1.00

03:06:09.540 Just to make it –

03:06:10.200 More than sex. 0.61

03:06:10.620 Oh, just like, oh, she won't have sex, but maybe – 0.99

03:06:13.180 Yeah. 1.00

03:06:13.400 Maybe a blowjob. 1.00

03:06:14.280 Brian would think that's less than – 0.99

03:06:15.680 He doesn't count me out of the body.

03:06:16.720 But that's what I mean.

03:06:17.320 It's like he could just keep going through them, right?

03:06:20.160 Yeah.

03:06:20.280 He could be like –

03:06:20.940 Do you want to make out?

03:06:21.580 Maybe he should go back.

03:06:22.260 Well, how about – yeah.

03:06:22.880 How about a make out session then?

03:06:24.720 Oh, no.

03:06:25.260 All right. 1.00

03:06:25.440 Well, I'll just take a blowjob. 1.00

03:06:26.360 You don't want to kiss me, but – 0.99

03:06:29.180 The real rhetorical win here would be if they offered – now they were like, well, 1.00

03:06:33.960 Brian, would you like some pussy after the show? 1.00

03:06:36.440 Oh, yeah. 1.00

03:06:37.060 Hang on.

03:06:37.640 But, Brian, let me ask you this.

03:06:38.740 Yeah.

03:06:39.060 Would you believe him?

03:06:42.040 Probably not.

03:06:42.740 Yeah, same.

03:06:43.160 Well, I mean, if it –

03:06:44.020 So I can't really – is it really a rhetorical win then?

03:06:46.440 Would you take it?

03:06:48.360 Wait.

03:06:48.640 Now I'm getting confused.

03:06:49.760 Yeah.

03:06:50.320 Now I'm just confused.

03:06:52.440 He's not confused.

03:06:53.740 Women are awesome. 1.00

03:06:54.600 All right.

03:06:56.900 Pizza.

03:06:57.400 Got to do a couple of super chats.

03:06:58.940 Pizza.

03:07:00.660 Christopher Murphy.

03:07:03.140 Murphy.

03:07:03.580 Thank you for the gifted 20 – and you sent it in twice.

03:07:05.740 Thank you for the 40, man.

03:07:06.680 You're a – 0.99

03:07:06.840 I feel like he keeps –

03:07:07.480 You're a legend.

03:07:08.020 But what about 60?

03:07:08.880 I've seen his name a few times.

03:07:09.840 Yeah.

03:07:10.120 The grift.

03:07:10.460 Oh, what about 60?

03:07:11.380 What about the grift, Christopher?

03:07:13.460 Pasty George.

03:07:14.240 Yeah.

03:07:14.440 Send in an ice cream pop.

03:07:16.040 Only Brian and Andrew can eat –

03:07:17.720 Oh, my God.

03:07:18.160 This is great.

03:07:19.000 Here's the thing.

03:07:19.480 Oh, no.

03:07:19.900 Is anybody who does a pop – I'm going to make this new rule.

03:07:24.820 If you can actually specify in your pop in your messages, whether it's champagne, pizza – I guess it's too late now for some of you who did it previously.

03:07:32.400 If you want to single out somebody to not get champagne, like if you're doing a champagne pop and you're like, ah, chair two is annoying me.

03:07:41.360 They don't get champagne.

03:07:42.720 You can specify.

03:07:45.820 So, Pasty George, if you want to preclude someone from having ice cream, you can do so.

03:07:51.660 But this is the second super chat you sent about an ice cream pop.

03:07:54.620 So, you better – 1.00

03:07:55.400 You better pop that fucking ice cream, George. 1.00

03:07:59.300 What's the word, though, for saddle up? 1.00

03:08:03.020 Is saddle up.

03:08:03.860 You don't say saddle up.

03:08:05.380 Saddle up.

03:08:06.000 You don't say saddle up, no.

03:08:07.780 He can do it.

03:08:08.820 You can bring it back.

03:08:09.600 Coco.

03:08:09.940 You can't bring it back.

03:08:11.300 He can do it.

03:08:11.580 Thanks for the five.

03:08:12.100 Look at him.

03:08:12.640 He got it.

03:08:13.720 We have Chef Dylan, chair two.

03:08:17.440 That's for you.

03:08:18.200 What are the five mother sauces?

03:08:20.500 Oh, my goodness.

03:08:21.620 I'm not sure what that means.

03:08:22.060 I've had at least five things of champagne right now, so I'm not quite sure.

03:08:26.760 No, you haven't had that much.

03:08:27.740 No way.

03:08:28.660 For me, yeah.

03:08:29.220 Mother sauces?

03:08:30.520 Um, no idea right now.

03:08:32.900 What is mother sauce?

03:08:34.140 Is that like a –

03:08:35.060 Yeah, well, there's like five sauces for cooking that are like the staples.

03:08:39.080 Christopher.

03:08:39.300 Wow.

03:08:39.960 That's another 20.

03:08:41.580 All right.

03:08:42.020 There's some chats from Lucas.

03:08:43.940 Is Worcestershire sauce one of those sauces?

03:08:45.960 It is not.

03:08:47.420 Not a thing.

03:08:49.700 Worcestershire.

03:08:50.240 Yeah, what's his hair sauce?

03:08:51.280 What's his hair sauce?

03:08:53.500 Thank you, Christopher.

03:08:54.400 Appreciate it.

03:08:55.220 All right.

03:08:55.500 We have a bunch of chats from Lucas here that I'm going to get through.

03:08:58.480 Here we have Lucas.

03:08:59.820 Can we please – oh, remind me of the bow video for our good friend Jungle.

03:09:04.940 Can we please, for once and for all, stick a fork in this blank slate?

03:09:11.780 Social constructionist theory.

03:09:13.320 Men have been since time immemorial and will continue to be viscerally and subconsciously revolted by promiscuity in women.

03:09:22.460 This has been settled science for decades.

03:09:26.000 And it was also settled even before the scientific method was even introduced as a method.

03:09:32.760 Right.

03:09:33.000 This was something which was a matter of law prescribed by almost all societies globally because he's exactly right.

03:09:40.600 It is a social constructionist theory, this idea that this doesn't exist, blank slate theory, that we have no preferences that are ingrained in us for the purposes of being revolted.

03:09:49.400 He's totally right.

03:09:50.400 Yeah.

03:09:50.720 No, a lot of us have said it is primal.

03:09:52.680 Like, that's the thing.

03:09:53.340 It's just I think some of us were asking why.

03:09:55.620 We were trying to get deeper on why.

03:09:57.040 Like, when she was asking earlier.

03:09:58.360 I think every time I ever ask someone, why is it revolting?

03:10:00.100 Yes.

03:10:00.380 Why is it disgusting?

03:10:00.600 We keep going back to that.

03:10:01.480 It is.

03:10:01.900 It is.

03:10:02.440 Oh, she's a ho – that's the default. 1.00

03:10:05.320 Yeah, but I feel like I gave you actually pretty –

03:10:06.900 Oh, no, no.

03:10:07.320 You – yeah.

03:10:07.940 I'm understanding.

03:10:08.700 I'm just saying that that's why that discussion happened.

03:10:09.800 And by the way, Lucas – yeah.

03:10:11.760 Lucas is totally right.

03:10:12.760 We already know.

03:10:13.360 We already agreed to a lot of that.

03:10:14.660 And Lucas is mostly, by the way, totally right, except for me.

03:10:17.820 I'm totally right more than you, Lucas.

03:10:19.120 But other than me, Lucas, you're the most right.

03:10:22.020 Battle.

03:10:22.420 Lucas has some continuations.

03:10:23.840 Jungle, I'll get to it once I get through all of Lucas' continuations.

03:10:27.360 Jungle's – who is it?

03:10:28.800 Who is this guy?

03:10:30.500 Jungle F. 0.69

03:10:31.100 There's Jungle.

03:10:31.840 What does the F stand for?

03:10:32.940 Brian.

03:10:33.520 What?

03:10:33.840 Fever.

03:10:34.440 He's trying – you know, the Crucible likes to support the channels that support the Crucible,

03:10:39.640 Brian.

03:10:40.540 No, I'm grateful.

03:10:42.060 Yeah, that's all.

03:10:42.980 When I say, who is this guy? 0.99

03:10:44.420 I'm like, this guy's a fucking legend. 1.00

03:10:45.640 He is a fucking legend. 1.00

03:10:46.520 He's a – here, let me play this thing for him. 1.00

03:10:48.560 He's a – 0.94

03:10:48.800 He's a brave and a decent man.

03:10:50.280 Oh, my God.

03:10:52.040 He's a brave – what does the F stand for?

03:10:55.500 Fever.

03:10:56.060 Jungle Fever.

03:10:56.520 Jungle Fever.

03:10:57.660 It has to be Fever.

03:10:58.440 It's got to be Jungle Fever.

03:10:59.300 What if it's Jungle – 1.00

03:10:59.940 Jungle, fuck you. 1.00

03:11:03.100 What if it's Jungle Fallopian Tube? 1.00

03:11:05.320 Wow.

03:11:05.720 Oh, there it is.

03:11:06.660 Okay.

03:11:06.980 Yep.

03:11:07.260 That's it.

03:11:07.920 I think I could be –

03:11:09.660 I think you're right.

03:11:10.820 I think it's possible.

03:11:11.700 Lucas, two, this isn't the hill to die on.

03:11:14.600 You're not changing fully entrenched preference.

03:11:17.840 Likewise, don't hearken to evolution as to why this primordial aversion to promiscuity should no longer apply, since we are now enlightened beyond our primitive impulses.

03:11:29.760 Yeah, that's so funny.

03:11:29.940 How about it?

03:11:30.280 Continued.

03:11:31.400 Three.

03:11:32.220 Oh.

03:11:32.580 It's an incontrovertible fact that almost all animals, including humans, have not changed, i.e. evolved.

03:11:40.860 In the last 200,000 years behind, a de minimis – oh, my God, this guy is on fire.

03:11:47.900 Lucas, you're on fire with the words that thesaurus has been brought out.

03:11:51.640 Minimal local adaptations.

03:11:54.760 He's Googling.

03:11:56.080 Oh, my God, de minimis.

03:11:57.240 That's a legal term, by the way.

03:11:58.800 Well done, Lucas.

03:11:59.540 He's an attorney.

03:12:00.240 A very powerful attorney.

03:12:01.680 Chat, if you need an attorney in New York City, he's your guy.

03:12:08.560 Okay.

03:12:09.220 Minimal local adaptation.

03:12:11.580 Why are we doing the voice?

03:12:12.600 I don't know.

03:12:13.380 I kind of like it.

03:12:15.520 Evolution literally takes millions of years.

03:12:18.760 Chair three.

03:12:19.920 As a male dating coach, I recommend against trying to convince men, at least conservative men, they should look past body count.

03:12:28.120 Otherwise, you're looking at an incredibly short foray.

03:12:32.460 As a men's dating coach, of course, if you're advising simp liberal soy boys, then disregard and Godspeed to you. 0.97

03:12:40.420 Well, he makes two really good points.

03:12:41.920 Let me respond to both of them real quick.

03:12:43.120 The first great point he makes is right at the end of it.

03:12:46.780 Actually, progressives utilize feminism and utilize female promiscuity as a mating strategy. 1.00

03:12:52.820 They actually do. 0.67

03:12:54.180 They are the ones you'll see at the forefront promoting OF and promoting all of the female promiscuity they possibly can. 1.00

03:12:59.880 Which men are you saying are promoting this?

03:13:01.060 Progressive liberal men.

03:13:02.340 Progressive liberal. 1.00

03:13:03.080 Instead of conservative traditional men, progressive men tend to do this because it's a much better mating strategy for them because they're pussies. 1.00

03:13:11.700 Literally. 1.00

03:13:12.360 It's because they're pussies. 1.00

03:13:14.240 There's some men that actually really love a woman with a high count. 1.00

03:13:17.640 I'll take this Pepsi challenge any day of the week.

03:13:19.700 Progressive men.

03:13:19.900 I mean, sure, with that one, yeah.

03:13:21.720 But I've definitely noticed that, yeah. 1.00

03:13:23.140 They're pussies. 0.99

03:13:24.260 I just think if it's your preference, it's your preference. 1.00

03:13:26.540 Whatever.

03:13:26.800 The other point that he says is, like, he's right.

03:13:29.320 So the modern incarnation of humanity is only, what, 200,000 to 400,000 years old from an evolutionary standpoint that's, like, meaningless.

03:13:38.720 Yeah.

03:13:38.880 That's like a drop in the bucket.

03:13:40.100 Evolution takes millions of years for even gradual changes.

03:13:43.800 So even if it were the case that this is the incarnation of humanity that's 400,000 years old, we have not gotten past this idea of, like, we're revolted by this for recently.

03:13:54.500 Yeah, but it's interesting because a lot of us have already agreed that we already all came to it that we're like, oh, yeah, we know men have this revolting thing against women with high body counts.

03:14:02.600 Yeah, got it.

03:14:03.240 Move on.

03:14:03.800 The next topic was why.

03:14:05.380 And then we're like, why are we.

03:14:06.920 There was a lot of different questions.

03:14:08.540 There were, but we pushed it because we're trying to get a full flesh out.

03:14:11.780 Yeah, we wanted to know.

03:14:12.780 Understanding.

03:14:13.260 At least that's where I come from.

03:14:14.140 Now, the only thing that I do is I've said that there are people that, like, I mean, women, too. 0.99

03:14:19.400 Women can have a revolting thing against that, too. 1.00

03:14:21.780 You can absolutely have women that are like, I am revolted against a high body count, men or women. 1.00

03:14:26.000 We're just looking at the idea of, like, I would never dispute that.

03:14:30.620 Yeah.

03:14:31.040 I've known women who are, like, absolutely not, like, playboys, things like that, disgust them visibly.

03:14:35.920 Yes.

03:14:36.320 But generally speaking, if you're talking to a woman and you ask her the question I asked her, would you accept a man who has, like, a hundred body count if he fits all the other criteria?

03:14:45.880 Yeah.

03:14:46.120 She said, yeah.

03:14:47.200 But you ask a man, but you ask the man the same question.

03:14:50.480 Right.

03:14:50.840 Would you accept a woman who meets all the criteria but she has, like, a hundred body count? 0.87

03:14:55.280 They say no.

03:14:56.000 Is it really important to ask?

03:14:57.540 That's another question I have.

03:14:58.780 What if I just don't want to know?

03:15:00.060 I don't think it used to be as important, but I think it sure is important now because of trends.

03:15:06.320 You think that the answer is really going to change that much depending on if the man's more conservative or more liberal?

03:15:12.580 Yes.

03:15:13.300 Okay.

03:15:14.200 So I think that that kind of shows that different men have different...

03:15:18.980 Oh, listen, listen.

03:15:19.000 One hundred percent. 0.99

03:15:20.460 I've had men who are sitting right across from me who literally say, I prefer that my woman is certified pre-fucked. 0.99

03:15:26.280 Okay? 0.99

03:15:27.120 They've said it out loud.

03:15:28.860 No, I've heard it too.

03:15:29.780 Okay?

03:15:30.100 Yeah.

03:15:30.380 They've said it out loud.

03:15:31.540 And the reason is, is because they're like, you think I'm an ally, right?

03:15:35.220 You like me now, right?

03:15:36.420 I'm an ally for women's rights, right?

03:15:38.320 And it's all a strategy to try to get it laid.

03:15:40.640 But those men are getting more women these days sometimes than some of the traditional guys.

03:15:46.580 Shoot, if that's their tactic and that's what they want to do, more power to them.

03:15:49.300 Let them live their best lives. 0.82

03:15:50.120 Even if they're going undercover sometimes.

03:15:52.380 Like, you're not outright saying, I'm a Trump supporter. 0.98

03:15:54.380 The men who showed up to, like, the Women's March and wore pussy hats on their head, let me tell you something. 1.00

03:16:00.700 Those are not guys who are getting a lot of pussy. 0.99

03:16:03.080 I'm just going to say they're not the guys. 0.99

03:16:05.100 I think it depends on their looks.

03:16:06.540 Yeah.

03:16:06.800 Yeah.

03:16:07.340 I mean, sure.

03:16:08.440 Because remember, women don't care as much. 1.00

03:16:09.940 If the girl has good looks, is the kind of guy who's going to show up and wear a pussy on his head? 1.00

03:16:13.120 If the girl he's really into wants him to, maybe. 1.00

03:16:16.420 No, no, no, no.

03:16:17.300 No way.

03:16:18.140 I think, like, we've acknowledged that these preferences and stuff exist.

03:16:22.640 Yes.

03:16:22.820 I think for me, and just watching the younger side.

03:16:26.880 Oh, this dude is definitely don't know.

03:16:28.620 Okay, so we need burrito.

03:16:31.600 Pop champagne.

03:16:32.820 Was there a spill?

03:16:33.240 I scream pop it.

03:16:34.420 Oh, a little bit.

03:16:35.280 No pizza or a bright scream for chair one.

03:16:37.480 That's okay.

03:16:37.860 I'm definitely not a hypocrite, even though I'm having pizza and ice cream right now. 1.00

03:16:42.800 Fucking hypocrite. 0.99

03:16:44.320 Okay, so we're going to do pizza, ice cream, and I have to get a burrito for me because he insisted on the burrito. 1.00

03:16:51.100 Is there any way of doing gluten-free?

03:16:52.540 That's so bad.

03:16:53.200 I keep on saying that.

03:16:54.180 I know.

03:16:54.720 I was waiting so long to say it.

03:16:56.440 I am.

03:16:56.960 It's bad.

03:16:58.060 I'll take the cheese.

03:16:59.280 It's not bad.

03:16:59.520 No, you just got to.

03:17:00.720 It's a preference.

03:17:01.320 Gluten.

03:17:01.600 Gluten is kind of poison, so I don't blame you.

03:17:05.980 Yeah.

03:17:06.560 It's not on purpose.

03:17:07.400 Wheat, in general, is such a bad gut irritant.

03:17:10.160 Yeah.

03:17:10.520 Yeah.

03:17:11.040 Have you tried it overseas or in a different country, though?

03:17:13.160 Anyways, we have a message here from Rachel Wilson.

03:17:15.480 Liberal beta men are the only ones who see high body count in women as good because it signifies a willingness on her part to do anything with anyone, which is the only way they're getting any.

03:17:24.900 Exactly.

03:17:25.020 That's Andrew's life there.

03:17:25.820 Totally agree.

03:17:26.380 Thank you, Rachel.

03:17:27.800 Appreciate it.

03:17:28.880 Oh, bow video.

03:17:29.700 Okay, bow video.

03:17:30.820 Yes.

03:17:30.880 Then I'm going to get all the food situated.

03:17:33.200 Mary, pull up the bow video. 1.00

03:17:34.380 Should we wait?

03:17:35.080 We got to wait until she's back from the bathroom. 1.00

03:17:36.940 Okay.

03:17:37.720 Here, while we're doing that, I'll read some of the pre-show notes.

03:17:40.280 We got some stuff to get through. 0.99

03:17:42.700 What the fuck was your Priscilla? 0.99

03:17:44.500 What's that Priscilla voice, bro? 1.00

03:17:46.320 Why are you Priscilla?

03:17:47.440 Why are you Priscilla modding?

03:17:50.160 I don't know.

03:17:50.560 I don't know.

03:17:51.860 I think I'm...

03:17:52.880 It's the champagne.

03:17:55.720 It's the champagne.

03:17:56.620 I liked it.

03:17:57.480 Priscilla modding.

03:17:57.800 I will do the next 10 minutes of the show in a Priscilla voice.

03:18:05.640 Oh, that would be great.

03:18:07.100 If we do a crystal pop, one Ethereum, one Ethereum, I'll do the Priscilla voice.

03:18:17.400 You can do that for 10 minutes?

03:18:19.020 I can do it.

03:18:19.440 He can do it.

03:18:20.340 Oh, pretty.

03:18:20.720 You know how he'll do it?

03:18:21.800 But here's the thing.

03:18:22.780 I'll hold him to the fire.

03:18:24.800 Yeah.

03:18:24.980 You just got to shotgun questions at him so that he can't divert it to run the time.

03:18:30.740 That's how we do it.

03:18:31.800 That's how we do it.

03:18:32.640 That's fair.

03:18:33.240 That's fair.

03:18:33.800 I like this.

03:18:34.260 You guys can ask me anything.

03:18:35.160 This is fun.

03:18:35.740 Yeah, you'll ask me anything.

03:18:38.200 All right.

03:18:39.000 Once she's back, we'll do the bow video, but we do have some other notes we're going to

03:18:42.200 get into.

03:18:43.560 Gabrielle, just curious.

03:18:44.860 You got two lip piercings, right?

03:18:48.440 Everybody's getting what the...

03:18:49.740 Do anybody want a...

03:18:55.740 What is it called?

03:18:57.880 Oh, my God.

03:18:58.500 I'm sorry.

03:18:58.760 Water?

03:18:59.220 Champagne. 1.00

03:18:59.840 God damn, bro. 1.00

03:19:01.220 God damn. 1.00

03:19:02.380 I kind of like this. 1.00

03:19:03.880 Okay, hold on.

03:19:04.380 Let me gather my thoughts here.

03:19:05.740 Through the alcohol.

03:19:07.360 Hold on.

03:19:08.980 An appetizer of...

03:19:10.880 We have popsicles.

03:19:12.880 Anybody?

03:19:13.740 What kind are they?

03:19:15.400 Fruit popsicles?

03:19:16.460 Yeah.

03:19:17.460 Sure.

03:19:17.940 Why not?

03:19:18.920 I have a meeting.

03:19:19.200 All right.

03:19:19.460 Hook it up.

03:19:20.740 Who wants one? 0.97

03:19:21.960 I'll take one.

03:19:23.540 I'm not allowed.

03:19:24.660 Don't be...

03:19:25.340 Don't like...

03:19:26.100 Do you want one?

03:19:26.680 They told me I'm not allowed.

03:19:28.020 Oh, my God.

03:19:28.820 They told me I'm not allowed.

03:19:30.240 We got to do one at a...

03:19:31.280 Let's do one at a time so there's not like a amalgamation of like popsicle sucking sounds

03:19:37.120 into the mic.

03:19:38.180 So do one at a time.

03:19:39.200 Did you want a popsicle?

03:19:40.880 Okay.

03:19:41.220 Get her a popsicle. 1.00

03:19:42.580 Then when she finishes, it's got to be one by one.

03:19:44.940 I just can't have all of you doing the popsicle.

03:19:47.580 Or like two at a time.

03:19:48.920 What's that?

03:19:49.280 It's the misophonia.

03:19:51.500 The what?

03:19:52.140 Oh, it's a thing.

03:19:53.420 People, they get bothered by noises.

03:19:55.800 What's...

03:19:56.420 I don't mind.

03:19:57.280 It's just the...

03:19:57.920 It picks it up in the microphone and they're going to murder me if they're like, this is 0.97

03:20:01.300 disgusting.

03:20:02.040 Or if people are like, this is ASMR. 0.68

03:20:03.760 Wait, so you have the two lip piercings.

03:20:05.960 Yes.

03:20:06.060 Do you have any other piercings?

03:20:06.940 I have a eyebrow piercing and I have chest piercings.

03:20:12.920 Chest.

03:20:14.020 Okay.

03:20:14.620 Got it.

03:20:15.540 Nipple piercings.

03:20:16.580 Okay.

03:20:16.780 And when did you get the lip piercings? 0.94

03:20:20.280 I got them on my 16th birthday.

03:20:23.080 So it's about to be three years, I think.

03:20:26.640 All right.

03:20:27.620 What are your...

03:20:28.560 Did you go...

03:20:29.380 What did your parents think of the...

03:20:31.460 My parents think...

03:20:31.920 Were they on board or...

03:20:32.880 Yeah.

03:20:33.240 My mom's the one who took me to get them.

03:20:35.060 Your mom?

03:20:35.620 Yeah.

03:20:36.260 She took you? 0.97

03:20:37.180 To get my lip piercings?

03:20:38.380 Yeah.

03:20:38.600 Did she have piercings? 1.00

03:20:39.700 She used to have like a nose piercing. 1.00

03:20:41.480 My dad had a nose piercing.

03:20:44.460 They're not really...

03:20:45.380 They don't care that much.

03:20:46.340 It's their whole thing.

03:20:47.800 It's like it's you.

03:20:49.300 What you do.

03:20:49.980 It's whatever.

03:20:51.500 Okay.

03:20:51.760 How it affects you is how it's going to affect you.

03:20:54.060 Let's see.

03:20:54.940 And then you...

03:20:56.560 If there's anything else in your notes here.

03:21:00.520 Disagreements, but we'll get to those later.

03:21:02.840 Let's see.

03:21:03.980 Victoria.

03:21:06.280 Who's Victoria?

03:21:08.260 Was that the 30-minute late girl? 0.98

03:21:10.320 Victoria?

03:21:10.760 Oh, she... 1.00

03:21:13.720 Yeah.

03:21:14.660 That's a no-go.

03:21:16.020 That was another no-show.

03:21:17.760 Oh.

03:21:20.180 Joey?

03:21:21.180 That's me.

03:21:21.780 Oh, but you're up at the table.

03:21:23.640 Okay.

03:21:25.100 Natalie, going to you.

03:21:26.200 You're a dating coach, a hypnotherapist, an author, and a producer.

03:21:28.780 You didn't say you were a hypnotherapist in your intro.

03:21:30.980 I didn't.

03:21:31.380 I have a lot of things.

03:21:32.060 I'm sorry.

03:21:32.780 I did say it eventually.

03:21:34.400 All right.

03:21:34.580 Can you hypnotize us all right now?

03:21:36.360 No.

03:21:37.040 Come on, do it.

03:21:39.300 Or we should wait until Andrew's back.

03:21:41.180 Yeah, right?

03:21:41.660 Well, no, he knows.

03:21:42.860 It's not like that.

03:21:43.880 It's like a...

03:21:45.080 What I do is I teach people how to do a meditation where it's more somatic, where you can go back

03:21:50.240 into a memory and reframe that memory so you're not as triggered by that memory anymore.

03:21:54.140 That's really it.

03:21:55.840 Let's see.

03:21:56.820 Not to make it as anticlimactic, but...

03:21:59.820 Right.

03:22:02.320 Mm-hmm.

03:22:02.780 I don't do as much as the woo-woo stuff.

03:22:05.380 All right.

03:22:06.180 We have a chat here named Taken.

03:22:07.380 Men are as disgusted by women with a high bod count as women are disgusted by men with 0.99

03:22:11.880 a huge Pokemon card collection.

03:22:13.500 That's a lie.

03:22:14.240 All right.

03:22:17.040 Some girls like that. 1.00

03:22:18.340 Listen.

03:22:18.680 I like Pokemon.

03:22:19.260 I forgot how to have a Pokemon card collection.

03:22:21.080 I'm like, oh my gosh.

03:22:22.520 Does the popsicle count as ice cream?

03:22:26.920 Is that part...

03:22:27.980 Is that...

03:22:28.460 Am I being a goblin here?

03:22:30.700 I think that might be what I meant.

03:22:31.740 I got to wait until everybody's back at the table before I get into the...

03:22:34.380 Wait, here.

03:22:35.740 Just hang at the table unless you're...

03:22:37.400 Because I think Andrew's in the bathroom right now.

03:22:38.980 So here, let's do the bow video while we have everybody at the table. 0.98

03:22:42.320 This is going back to Jungle's question.

03:22:45.200 So keep this in mind while you're watching this following video.

03:22:49.320 The question is, if the man of your dreams fits all your desires, asks you to bow for him,

03:22:56.720 would you?

03:22:57.220 Go ahead and play the video.

03:22:58.060 No audio video is fine.

03:23:03.860 It's fine.

03:23:04.940 Go ahead.

03:23:06.680 This is my ex-girlfriend, by the way.

03:23:08.400 Boom.

03:23:08.880 Huge bow. 1.00

03:23:10.320 Did you see that shit? 1.00

03:23:12.260 And she got rewarded. 1.00

03:23:13.600 Huge bow.

03:23:14.200 Huge bow.

03:23:14.960 Giant bow.

03:23:16.220 And then, you know, this is the rest.

03:23:17.840 She's, you know, doing the whole hamper thing. 1.00

03:23:21.860 This was after a long podcast shoot.

03:23:23.920 I, you know, she had my dinner ready.

03:23:26.540 She's got my beer ready.

03:23:28.520 My noodles ready. 0.99

03:23:30.360 I don't know what the fuck was in the left corner ready. 0.99

03:23:33.700 Tomatoes. 0.99

03:23:34.180 Whole tomatoes, Ryan.

03:23:35.000 Whole tomatoes ready.

03:23:36.220 I actually dumped her because of that. 0.99

03:23:38.940 And then, get ready.

03:23:40.280 Play it.

03:23:40.820 Play it again.

03:23:41.480 We're just going to watch the bow part.

03:23:42.760 By the way, while you're doing ordering, you got to order in some of those.

03:23:46.500 Huge bow.

03:23:47.060 Do you see the depth?

03:23:47.900 Do you see the depth of bow?

03:23:48.620 That's a really good bow.

03:23:49.700 I had to teach her that.

03:23:51.100 Like, she tried to do, like, give me a half-assed bow. 1.00

03:23:53.320 I had to say no.

03:23:54.700 Full.

03:23:54.940 To your teacher?

03:23:56.060 Full bow.

03:23:56.800 Huh?

03:23:57.160 Did you say teacher?

03:23:59.280 Yes, that was my, also my, I was groomed.

03:24:05.260 I don't know.

03:24:06.620 You had to teach her.

03:24:07.900 My bad.

03:24:08.680 It took audio processing.

03:24:10.220 So, the question was, if the man of your dreams, fits all your desires, asks you to bow for him. 0.99

03:24:16.880 Don't ignore the other shit after the bow. 0.99

03:24:18.660 Just the bow. 0.99

03:24:19.820 Would you?

03:24:20.380 I feel like the man of my dreams wouldn't want me to bow, but if for some reason he was on something and wanted it, sure.

03:24:35.340 No, go ahead, go ahead.

03:24:36.860 Guidance doesn't bow to anyone, first of all.

03:24:39.880 So, no, but if I had to.

03:24:41.580 Okay, let me, hold on.

03:24:42.500 Let me, let me paint.

03:24:44.660 Okay, so, you said you like thick white women. 1.00

03:24:48.800 That's right. 0.99

03:24:49.200 So, she's thicky icky. 1.00

03:24:51.420 Racist. 1.00

03:24:53.860 She's the thickest white girl you've ever, why are your eyes, you're like, your eyes are closed and you're like picturing that shit. 1.00

03:25:01.340 That's right, that's right. 1.00

03:25:02.420 She's thick. 1.00

03:25:03.440 Thunder thighs. 0.96

03:25:05.020 Thunder thighs. 0.96

03:25:06.400 That's right.

03:25:07.180 Thicky icky. 0.77

03:25:08.140 Mm-hmm. 1.00

03:25:09.220 Fucking degeneracy knows you. 1.00

03:25:10.880 What the fuck? 1.00

03:25:11.580 No problems. 1.00

03:25:12.600 I'm trying to help her out.

03:25:13.840 All right, all right.

03:25:15.080 I like the picture you're painting.

03:25:16.680 All right.

03:25:16.900 Yeah.

03:25:17.520 And she's got, she's got, do you like girls with like color in their hair? 1.00

03:25:22.280 Oh, as long as they have beautiful hair, I don't care what color it is.

03:25:24.560 Beautiful hair.

03:25:25.180 Okay.

03:25:26.000 You like preferably blondes? 1.00

03:25:27.580 Blondes. 0.99

03:25:27.780 No, I actually don't like blondes. 1.00

03:25:28.960 That's crazy, but I like brunettes or black hair. 1.00

03:25:30.940 But if it was a blonde, would it be a disqualifier? 1.00

03:25:33.920 I think it would.

03:25:34.760 I mean, that's just for me.

03:25:35.600 I'm not sure why.

03:25:36.340 You'd be like, oh, you're a beautiful woman, but you're blonde. 1.00

03:25:38.700 No way.

03:25:39.460 Yeah, you got to have a lot more to back that blonde hair up. 1.00

03:25:42.860 So, no to the bow, okay?

03:25:45.580 Would you bow for your perfect eye?

03:25:46.980 Yes.

03:25:47.320 Yes.

03:25:47.720 Yes.

03:25:48.420 Yeah, I'll even kneel.

03:25:49.900 You'll kneel?

03:25:50.540 Oh.

03:25:51.040 Yep.

03:25:51.760 She went there.

03:25:53.740 She went there.

03:25:55.140 Wait, hold on.

03:25:55.840 I got to play something.

03:25:56.260 Die of my dreams?

03:25:57.360 Oh, yeah.

03:25:57.900 Yeah.

03:25:58.680 Anything you want.

03:25:59.700 That's awesome.

03:26:00.940 Yeah.

03:26:02.340 Absolutely.

03:26:04.240 Oh, yeah.

03:26:04.940 I feel like over the course of a couple of years, you have, like, really driven this

03:26:11.160 point home to the point where the answers are completely 180 from what they used to be.

03:26:16.400 I have single-handedly shifted the cultural zeitgeist.

03:26:18.540 You brought the bow in, Brian.

03:26:21.880 I've brought it in.

03:26:22.800 Well, you know, it depends on the panel.

03:26:24.960 This panel seems.

03:26:25.940 Would you bow for your perfect man?

03:26:27.840 Is it a one-time thing, or do I have to do it every day?

03:26:30.560 Every day.

03:26:31.240 Every day?

03:26:31.800 No.

03:26:31.840 Every day.

03:26:32.740 How about three times a week?

03:26:35.820 That's a good deal.

03:26:36.900 Perfect guy.

03:26:37.820 That's a good deal.

03:26:38.220 Three times a one-time.

03:26:38.760 Perfect guy.

03:26:39.380 And he's not German. 0.53

03:26:42.720 Because, I don't know, you had some...

03:26:43.940 I don't know.

03:26:44.560 I don't know. 1.00

03:26:45.360 Stupid. 1.00

03:26:46.100 Nah. 1.00

03:26:47.260 No, he can be less perfect, and I don't have to...

03:26:49.700 The Asian chick won't bow. 1.00

03:26:51.240 The Asian chick won't bow. 1.00

03:26:52.460 That's fucking hilarious. 1.00

03:26:52.480 She goes, less perfect. 1.00

03:26:54.020 The perfect guy?

03:26:55.280 You wouldn't...

03:26:55.600 The perfect guy.

03:26:56.440 So, like...

03:26:57.340 Yeah, I think this deal makes him less perfect already.

03:27:00.340 But, just one clarifying...

03:27:02.720 And, Felicity, you'd...

03:27:04.180 Of course.

03:27:05.260 Of course.

03:27:05.900 Of course.

03:27:06.600 Of course.

03:27:06.900 Of course.

03:27:07.720 She's been having some relationship problems, because she doesn't do the bow. 0.96

03:27:10.880 No.

03:27:11.420 She doesn't do the bow. 0.59

03:27:12.580 Now she's mad, of course.

03:27:13.940 I'm just kidding.

03:27:14.000 There is no relationship problems.

03:27:15.400 I'm just saying she should do the bow.

03:27:16.600 So, okay.

03:27:17.980 For you, though.

03:27:19.200 Wait.

03:27:19.520 You said no bow, no bow.

03:27:21.200 My girl bows to me, sir.

03:27:22.780 That doesn't...

03:27:23.380 Okay.

03:27:24.240 Wait, so you were like...

03:27:24.960 A bow's in bow.

03:27:25.560 I don't know how, like, the lesbian relationships work, but there's a... 1.00

03:27:27.960 Yeah, but I really like this kneel thing that I came from that hair and about.

03:27:31.160 Was that good?

03:27:31.880 I think the kneel is better than the bow.

03:27:33.680 Huh?

03:27:34.860 I would have...

03:27:35.560 Sure, yes.

03:27:36.180 Yeah.

03:27:36.400 The kneel is better than the bow. 0.84

03:27:37.960 The kneel is better than the bow. 0.84

03:27:39.100 Because it's like kneeling on your knee, like, proposing type?

03:27:42.660 No.

03:27:43.140 No.

03:27:43.460 I think...

03:27:43.980 I think I need...

03:27:44.840 Wait, can you demonstrate on the chair?

03:27:45.260 I really feel like I need both knees.

03:27:47.780 No, not a kneeling.

03:27:48.620 Yeah, I feel like I need both knees.

03:27:50.800 Not a kneeling bow, but can you just do it on your chair?

03:27:53.700 No, the knighting is the one knee.

03:27:55.700 You don't have to do that.

03:27:56.220 You don't have to do that.

03:27:58.200 No, it's a kneel on the chair.

03:28:01.540 What?

03:28:01.960 On the chair?

03:28:02.580 I was saying if she would kneel on the chair. 1.00

03:28:03.860 What the fuck did... 1.00

03:28:04.840 How do you kneel on a chair? 1.00

03:28:07.180 You can do it.

03:28:10.260 She doesn't... 1.00

03:28:11.760 Her legs wouldn't be pointing towards the back of the chair. 0.99

03:28:14.180 She'd have to be... 0.98

03:28:15.360 She'd have to change her orientation to do it... 0.96

03:28:18.300 To kneel on the chair.

03:28:19.920 Straight? 1.00

03:28:20.400 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

03:28:21.060 What are you... 1.00

03:28:21.800 Kneel on a chair? 1.00

03:28:23.760 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

03:28:24.480 I wear the Priscilla voice. 1.00

03:28:25.940 Like this.

03:28:26.440 Oh, she said on one knee.

03:28:27.620 Oh, one knee or both knees.

03:28:28.940 Oh, wait.

03:28:29.860 No, both knees.

03:28:31.140 But that's still lower than just the...

03:28:33.080 When you say kneel, are you saying kneel like you're on both your knees?

03:28:37.080 No, because I can't get up right.

03:28:39.900 Wait.

03:28:40.520 Like a proposal kneel?

03:28:41.840 Like I'm going down on a knee?

03:28:42.600 Like a football huddle kneel? 1.00

03:28:46.220 Like your fucking football coach? 1.00

03:28:47.980 No, but you're proposing. 1.00

03:28:49.360 Are we proposing?

03:28:50.320 All right, team.

03:28:51.060 Take a kneel.

03:28:51.620 That's lower than the bow. 0.89

03:28:52.380 Take a knee.

03:28:53.580 I get it, though.

03:28:54.840 I think both knees.

03:28:55.360 It's got to be both.

03:28:56.560 No, it's got to be both.

03:28:57.780 That's what I'm saying.

03:28:58.360 It has to be...

03:29:00.360 No, the kneel has to be both.

03:29:01.720 Really?

03:29:02.080 I would do two...

03:29:02.800 Yeah, I would do the kneel.

03:29:04.000 For sure.

03:29:04.700 Man of your dreams, kneel.

03:29:06.580 It's got to be both.

03:29:07.680 Man of my dreams.

03:29:08.380 I'll say this.

03:29:09.500 For the perfect woman, I'll do the best.

03:29:12.680 That's the question.

03:29:13.900 Would y'all kneel to the girl of your dreams?

03:29:17.100 That's what we wanted to hear.

03:29:18.320 That's the question.

03:29:18.420 That's right.

03:29:18.700 For the perfect woman. 0.92

03:29:19.640 Bro, that's like doing the Black Lives Matter thing where you kneel. 1.00

03:29:24.480 It's the same shit. 1.00

03:29:25.500 You don't kneel for the perfect woman, dude. 1.00

03:29:28.060 No, he said bow.

03:29:29.040 Andrew, it's a compromise.

03:29:31.940 Right.

03:29:32.460 Thank you.

03:29:33.660 That's the most important thing in relationships is compromise.

03:29:36.220 Well, that's the only thing I would compromise on.

03:29:37.840 Nothing else.

03:29:38.060 But it's a compromise.

03:29:38.840 Sure.

03:29:39.260 That's fine.

03:29:39.740 Let's start.

03:29:40.260 Everything else has to be my way.

03:29:42.240 Are you doing it every day or just three days a week?

03:29:43.640 Everything else has to be my way.

03:29:44.900 But then again, are you in a relationship right now, Brian?

03:29:47.920 I'm asexual.

03:29:49.960 That doesn't mean you're not in a relationship.

03:29:51.720 And a monk.

03:29:52.560 I don't do that.

03:29:54.540 But you're not bald.

03:29:56.640 You would bow?

03:29:57.220 No, I wouldn't kneel.

03:29:58.260 I would bow.

03:29:59.120 That's if it...

03:30:00.940 You know what?

03:30:01.340 That's not loud enough.

03:30:02.900 The kneel's kind of weird, though.

03:30:05.000 The bow?

03:30:05.580 But if it's sexual?

03:30:06.220 The bow?

03:30:06.920 Yeah, whatever.

03:30:07.700 It's behind closed doors.

03:30:08.780 No one has it.

03:30:09.080 Okay, but here's...

03:30:09.720 Right.

03:30:10.340 Oh, and listen to this part.

03:30:12.060 So here's the entailment of...

03:30:13.960 You would bow for the perfect woman? 1.00

03:30:14.640 Hold on.

03:30:15.140 Here's the...

03:30:15.640 I can't get it.

03:30:16.260 Here's the entailment of what...

03:30:17.840 Give it a try, Andrew.

03:30:18.420 Your wife might like you.

03:30:19.360 Here's the entailment... 1.00

03:30:20.100 Yeah, fuck. 1.00

03:30:21.200 Yeah, right. 1.00

03:30:22.120 I'd never do...

03:30:23.040 You could...

03:30:23.880 There's...

03:30:24.360 No way.

03:30:25.240 That would never happen.

03:30:26.180 Here's the entailment of the...

03:30:28.480 Wait. 0.94

03:30:28.980 Pasty, you are a little goblin, dude. 0.96

03:30:31.440 You said you were going to do an ice cream pot. 1.00

03:30:34.420 You fucking... 1.00

03:30:35.640 This Canadian guy... 1.00

03:30:36.400 This is obfuscation. 1.00

03:30:37.480 This is fucking obfuscation. 0.99

03:30:39.080 It's obfuscation, dude. 1.00

03:30:39.680 No, I'll debate you on the bow.

03:30:41.100 I will debate you on the bow.

03:30:42.660 You're obfuscating.

03:30:42.940 I'm going to debate you on the...

03:30:43.960 Hold on.

03:30:44.360 Just hold on.

03:30:45.460 I just need to call Pasty out because you said you would do an ice cream pot, and where

03:30:49.680 is it at, Pasty?

03:30:50.360 Obfuscation.

03:30:50.980 Jungle ain't going to protect you.

03:30:52.720 Jungle's not coming to help you out.

03:30:54.360 Buddy.

03:30:55.640 Okay.

03:30:56.340 Pelagic, Bebop, and Rocksteady.

03:30:58.020 Okay.

03:30:58.240 Not sure what...

03:30:59.020 Thank you, Pelagic.

03:31:00.300 Oh, no.

03:31:01.320 What is that?

03:31:01.960 I don't know what that is.

03:31:03.360 Okay.

03:31:03.780 Is that an inside joke?

03:31:04.780 No, it's not.

03:31:06.320 But it just registered with me, and it is pretty funny.

03:31:10.280 But the bow?

03:31:11.800 The bow?

03:31:12.760 The bow?

03:31:13.720 Oh.

03:31:15.040 Okay.

03:31:15.600 The bow?

03:31:16.500 Exact angel of your special.

03:31:18.520 Thank you, Spyro, for the messages.

03:31:20.360 Every time I see an impression on me.

03:31:21.260 These are great.

03:31:22.200 It would have been worked.

03:31:22.780 I'm not going to forget, Brian.

03:31:24.100 Hold on.

03:31:24.460 Like, I'm not going to forget, Brian, about this bow thing.

03:31:28.000 Wait. 1.00

03:31:28.280 I wrote down notes in case Andrew fucking challenged me on this shit. 1.00

03:31:33.640 Hold on. 1.00

03:31:34.480 I need my fucking response. 0.99

03:31:36.840 What's it called when people have response trees? 0.99

03:31:38.620 A retort?

03:31:39.280 Or a rebuttal.

03:31:41.000 No, but a list of them?

03:31:42.720 Wait.

03:31:43.160 What is it? 1.00

03:31:44.480 Fuck. 1.00

03:31:45.800 Wait. 1.00

03:31:45.980 Oh, man. 1.00

03:31:46.780 I had my fucking. 1.00

03:31:48.120 I had. 1.00

03:31:48.780 Oh, you know what, though, Brian?

03:31:50.300 You know, I just feel like we should.

03:31:52.480 I'm going to change the subject.

03:31:53.780 I just feel like we should change the subject.

03:31:55.440 No, because you know you're about to get, like, BTFO'd on the bow.

03:31:59.740 You're right.

03:32:00.540 Let's do this.

03:32:01.540 But I just want to make sure that you know you insisted.

03:32:04.200 Wait.

03:32:04.440 Hold on.

03:32:04.720 Before we do that.

03:32:05.360 You insisted, bro.

03:32:05.880 You insisted.

03:32:07.180 Hold on.

03:32:07.620 We'll do it.

03:32:08.020 We'll do it.

03:32:08.400 But let me let.

03:32:10.700 Wait.

03:32:11.120 Let me let these chats come through, because I don't want to be a goblin.

03:32:13.700 Yeah.

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03:32:35.380 We have Lucas here.

03:32:36.620 And then we have Big Jungle F.

03:32:38.800 Uh-oh.

03:32:39.300 Hey, you didn't clarify jungle.

03:32:40.500 Uh-oh.

03:32:41.100 What the F stands for.

03:32:43.020 But, uh.

03:32:43.620 Oh.

03:32:43.900 He doesn't need to.

03:32:44.640 Now I feel like it's part of the mystique.

03:32:46.120 Yeah.

03:32:46.940 I feel like we know what that F stands for.

03:32:48.900 Jungle Felipe.

03:32:50.340 Who?

03:32:50.940 Jungle Fernandez.

03:32:52.080 It's that.

03:32:53.020 It's Felipe.

03:32:55.020 Jungle Fred would be so disappointed.

03:32:56.860 Uh, Lucas.

03:32:57.480 Someone in the chat suggested that Andrew and I debate each other.

03:33:00.100 If I had to handicap it, this is how it would go.

03:33:02.460 I believe this, this, and that.

03:33:04.340 Yep, I agree.

03:33:06.500 I submit to you this.

03:33:07.700 Jungle F donated $1,000.

03:33:09.820 So technically, I'm the man of that.

03:33:10.840 Pop champagne.

03:33:12.380 Share five.

03:33:13.580 You are dreaming of me.

03:33:14.680 Oh, because he said you wouldn't kneel.

03:33:15.140 So technically, I am the man of your present dreams.

03:33:18.760 Congratulations.

03:33:19.360 Share five.

03:33:20.200 Oh.

03:33:20.920 When you bow after kneeling, dreams come true.

03:33:23.640 You know, you know, Jungle, you're kind of hoeing around on the crucible a little too much. 1.00

03:33:28.340 You know, you're hoeing around a little too much here, Jungle. 1.00

03:33:31.860 You know, I get the whole, you know, support the people who support, but geez, you know,

03:33:37.760 how much is that, by the way, for Jungle?

03:33:40.540 I think it's been six.

03:33:42.180 Six thousand dollars.

03:33:43.280 Six, seven.

03:33:43.740 Cheers to you, Jungle.

03:33:44.720 Speaking, I mean, hold on.

03:33:46.000 What does Jungle do?

03:33:47.020 In retort to Andrew on this, Jungle, if you'd like, I'll arrange. 1.00

03:33:51.720 Do you want to go on a date?

03:33:53.160 I think, do you want to go on a date with Jungle? 1.00

03:33:54.920 Jungle?

03:33:57.360 Yes.

03:34:01.560 No.

03:34:02.680 I'm sorry.

03:34:03.620 Can we see the picture?

03:34:04.560 I don't know.

03:34:05.220 He didn't like you anyways.

03:34:06.740 He didn't like you anyways.

03:34:07.720 He was just messing around.

03:34:09.060 It was a hypothetical.

03:34:10.380 It was a rhetorical.

03:34:11.120 Yeah, it was a rhetorical.

03:34:12.040 You know, Brian, it cracked this perfectly good joke, and I feel like you made it kind

03:34:15.300 of weird there.

03:34:16.180 What?

03:34:16.680 Not, you know, nothing.

03:34:18.260 Nope.

03:34:19.160 I think you made it weird.

03:34:20.320 Nothing, no.

03:34:20.900 I think you know him better.

03:34:22.200 I think you made it.

03:34:23.000 It was definitely you.

03:34:23.880 Oh, okay.

03:34:24.260 Thank you.

03:34:25.720 Oh, Pasty, you are a little goblin, Pasty. 1.00

03:34:29.440 You just. 0.98

03:34:30.600 Pasty.

03:34:31.060 Well, should I do a champagne pop or an ice cream pop?

03:34:34.600 Bro, I haven't.

03:34:36.120 Wait, what?

03:34:37.740 Thank you, Andre.

03:34:38.480 Okay, thank you guys for the super chats.

03:34:40.080 Wait, let me find in my notes, Andrew. 0.97

03:34:42.080 Who the fuck is that Spurg, dude? 0.99

03:34:43.960 Who? 1.00

03:34:44.300 I don't know.

03:34:44.980 Whoever you didn't find out is just Spurg it out.

03:34:47.140 I didn't even read it.

03:34:48.220 Oh, well.

03:34:48.680 I'm just clicking through it.

03:34:49.880 Yeah.

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03:34:55.780 By the way, thank you, Jungle.

03:34:56.980 It's been awesome, man.

03:34:58.220 Thank you for so many champagne pops.

03:35:00.400 You've been fantastic this evening.

03:35:02.240 Thank you, bro.

03:35:02.740 He's a brave and a decent man.

03:35:04.040 He's a pioneer.

03:35:04.980 Thank you, dude.

03:35:05.560 You're a legend.

03:35:06.040 And we need to, you know what?

03:35:08.520 I feel like we've got to give Jungle something.

03:35:10.560 Jungle's amazing.

03:35:11.460 How about you send Jungle a, like, a whatever labia sweater? 0.73

03:35:15.600 Jungle's like, look.

03:35:17.140 I got, maybe he just wants, like, a whatever one instead.

03:35:20.320 How about, how about, well, no. 0.59

03:35:21.760 A big labia one? 1.00

03:35:22.660 That's, like, very niche.

03:35:23.420 How about both?

03:35:24.120 Give them both.

03:35:24.720 Okay.

03:35:25.300 Yeah, give them both.

03:35:25.700 I'll do both.

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03:36:28.380 Ba-da-ba-ba.

03:36:29.160 Okay.

03:36:30.260 So, me and Andrew, we're going to debate, but I need to find all my notes here to just

03:36:34.820 totally wrap them.

03:36:35.200 But until you can, we should probably get into some of the show notes.

03:36:38.980 It seems like you're kind of, like, a little scared.

03:36:41.740 That's the second time you demanded it.

03:36:43.460 Find the notes.

03:36:44.900 Second time, bro.

03:36:46.840 Hold on.

03:36:47.160 A little reverse psychology there for Brian.

03:36:48.660 Do you already have notes prepared for this?

03:36:51.420 For, like...

03:36:51.740 It was bound to happen.

03:36:52.540 Yeah.

03:36:53.100 Oh, so he knew.

03:36:53.700 It was bound to happen one day.

03:36:54.840 Okay.

03:36:55.700 One day.

03:36:56.240 He was like, I know one day.

03:36:57.440 I know.

03:36:57.660 He's like, I know one day.

03:36:59.020 I'm going to admit that for the perfect woman, I would bow, and I'm going to have to have 1.00

03:37:02.360 this debate with Andrew.

03:37:03.900 Here are the notes.

03:37:04.900 It's going to be...

03:37:05.460 Here's how it's going to go, too.

03:37:06.660 It's going to be hypothetical, hypothetical, hypothetical.

03:37:09.280 Andrew wins.

03:37:10.060 Watch.

03:37:11.580 I think he's going to make some really good points, though.

03:37:15.220 He's got to find it.

03:37:16.120 I'm excited for the points.

03:37:17.400 Cope.

03:37:17.720 Brian, Cope.

03:37:18.740 Hold on.

03:37:19.140 Cope.

03:37:19.240 I got it, bro.

03:37:19.740 A little Cope.

03:37:20.800 I got it.

03:37:21.380 Hold on.

03:37:22.540 Brian, I don't know what that is.

03:37:24.520 So, oh, before we get into it, before we do, I need to pose her a question.

03:37:28.400 I need to pose her one thing on the bow thing. 1.00

03:37:30.480 So, okay.

03:37:31.080 So, you're a perfect guy.

03:37:32.600 What?

03:37:33.220 What?

03:37:33.560 That's fair.

03:37:34.340 That's fair.

03:37:34.860 Yeah.

03:37:35.140 You're a perfect guy, right?

03:37:36.460 So, this would be the perfect guy in terms of what you would find most physically attractive,

03:37:43.680 perfect guy in terms of what you would find in terms of personality, and then if you

03:37:48.320 want, you could add on, like, he's a trillionaire.

03:37:50.440 So, he's the richest man in the world.

03:37:53.300 That's, when I'm saying perfect, that's what I'm willing to grant for the hypothetical.

03:37:58.580 Would you bow for that, man? 1.00

03:38:00.700 If you just saw what just happened, you would have lost your fucking mind. 1.00

03:38:04.680 Is it on? 1.00

03:38:06.560 It's not a big deal.

03:38:07.660 I'm just talking smack.

03:38:09.060 It's not a big deal.

03:38:09.820 No big deal.

03:38:10.340 Is it like a flash?

03:38:12.160 No, no, no.

03:38:12.680 Nothing like that.

03:38:13.480 Oh.

03:38:13.940 That I walked by the camera?

03:38:15.480 Yeah.

03:38:15.740 No, no, no.

03:38:16.400 Oh.

03:38:16.560 It had nothing even to do with you.

03:38:19.240 Is it like TOS?

03:38:20.240 No, no, no.

03:38:20.700 Nothing like that.

03:38:21.540 Yeah.

03:38:22.660 Oh.

03:38:23.380 Anyway, go ahead.

03:38:24.240 Sorry. 0.99

03:38:25.220 Now I want to know what the fuck is going to happen. 0.99

03:38:26.240 Yeah, right. 0.99

03:38:27.220 Oh, okay.

03:38:28.020 So you're all like OCD'd out all the time.

03:38:31.660 And so if the cameras aren't like where they're supposed to.

03:38:33.780 Oh, she bumps the camera? 0.92

03:38:34.740 No, she walked in front of it and we saw the back of her head for like a good five seconds. 1.00

03:38:38.520 Oh.

03:38:38.940 Before it's, oh yeah, right.

03:38:40.720 Whatever.

03:38:41.420 Whatever.

03:38:41.960 Whatever.

03:38:42.680 It's not a big deal.

03:38:43.440 All right.

03:38:45.380 Okay.

03:38:45.980 He's a changed man.

03:38:47.380 Answer.

03:38:47.740 Yeah, right.

03:38:50.880 Three times a week?

03:38:53.220 Yeah.

03:38:53.740 Yeah.

03:38:54.300 She's negotiating it.

03:38:55.560 He's saving children and world hunger.

03:38:58.480 When you do it, well, I'm going to up it, but would you, for, yeah, three times a week,

03:39:01.700 would you do the bow?

03:39:02.920 Okay.

03:39:03.560 Okay.

03:39:04.000 Seven, uh, every single day.

03:39:07.780 No.

03:39:08.460 I don't understand the differential though of like, yes, three, three days a week, but

03:39:12.640 no, not to seven days a week.

03:39:15.660 Like what's the, what's the, uh, reasoning there?

03:39:22.620 Let me ask you a question.

03:39:23.760 Um, you're working on your PhD, right?

03:39:26.200 Yeah.

03:39:26.320 Once you get your PhD, do you want to become a professor or you want to, I assume you want

03:39:30.380 to get a good paying job?

03:39:32.460 I want to become a professor.

03:39:34.040 A professor.

03:39:34.840 How much do professors make? 0.99

03:39:36.700 Oh, I don't know.

03:39:37.760 I work in China, but not very much.

03:39:40.360 Okay.

03:39:41.060 Uh, if somebody came along, uh, some like really weird autistic guy came along and said,

03:39:48.400 I don't know, he came along and he was like, I'm going to pay you a million dollars a year

03:39:54.460 and all you have to do is, uh, you have to work at my restaurant for 10 minutes a day.

03:40:01.500 And all you have to do is just bow to the guests who are coming into the restaurant only

03:40:06.740 for 10 minutes a day.

03:40:07.640 And he'll pay you a million dollars a year.

03:40:09.660 And that's it.

03:40:11.100 Would you do it?

03:40:12.300 I would do it.

03:40:13.780 Interesting.

03:40:14.560 Okay.

03:40:15.220 So that's a million dollars a year, but you wouldn't, you wouldn't do it for your perfect

03:40:21.920 man.

03:40:22.340 Who's a trillionaire who conceivably your shared wealth would far exceed making a million dollars

03:40:27.760 a year.

03:40:28.100 I think it's a different thing because that would be a job, but now we're talking about

03:40:32.380 my partner.

03:40:33.440 Like, why does he want me to do that?

03:40:35.460 I think there's some like, um, like power, like difference.

03:40:40.340 Yeah.

03:40:40.700 Let's even grant for sure it is.

03:40:42.540 Let's even grant that it is a power thing and he just gets off.

03:40:46.740 He gets off to it.

03:40:48.260 Same thing as the employer though.

03:40:50.700 The employer?

03:40:51.680 Employer.

03:40:52.420 Well, I mean, if he has you come in for 10 minutes a day to bow and gives you a million

03:40:56.380 dollars, it's not about power.

03:40:58.920 Well, is it, it's gotta be about power, right?

03:41:02.220 But you would still do it.

03:41:03.080 Even if it was about power, the employer just wanted to see you out.

03:41:06.440 What if in every other aspect he's treating you with respect, it's everything that your

03:41:10.760 perfect man, your, your relationship is about.

03:41:13.060 All he's asking is for a moment of submission to be like, I love you.

03:41:17.400 Everything you're giving me.

03:41:18.320 Like, I appreciate everything you've given me.

03:41:20.260 Yeah.

03:41:20.660 It's almost like a thank you more than just like a, I'm your, I don't know, subservient.

03:41:25.520 Yeah.

03:41:25.700 Yeah.

03:41:25.920 It's not really in that way.

03:41:27.120 I think sometimes people hear submissive and they think very negative.

03:41:30.900 Would you?

03:41:31.280 It's really hard to imagine that.

03:41:33.480 Well, she's not into it, it seems like.

03:41:36.080 So he's like, he's not the right match then if she's not into it too.

03:41:40.420 It's just interesting because she's willing to do it for pay, but not for the perfect partner

03:41:44.720 of her dreams who were, she can probably live the rest of her life in a certain time.

03:41:47.400 I kind of get some of that with it being like your partner.

03:41:49.900 Cause that's the person you share every meal with.

03:41:51.820 You spend every night, usually sleeping in bed with.

03:41:54.560 So to know that that power dynamic is like off for her for the rest of her life in that

03:41:59.020 relationship, whereas a job, she could come in a couple shifts, get a couple million dip. 1.00

03:42:03.200 But look at, but look at you, what you're pursuing, um, masters, doctors, which one?

03:42:08.860 PhD.

03:42:09.520 A PhD.

03:42:10.100 A woman pursuing a PhD or with a PhD is probably not bowing to anyone. 0.99

03:42:15.880 So I think it goes right back to the substance of person.

03:42:18.300 A PhD would bow for a million dollars a year.

03:42:20.420 We got one right here who has her nose turned up and I would, I mean, she's willing to do

03:42:25.460 it as a job, but she's not willing to do it for the partner of her rest of her life.

03:42:29.700 So this one, I have a, a bit of an internal conflict with, do I think that there's men

03:42:36.660 out there who are very prideful and would be very dominant in a relationship, but would

03:42:42.160 still go to like a Caesar's palace and bow for 10 minutes for a million dollars a year?

03:42:46.240 I think they would.

03:42:47.220 I think so.

03:42:47.580 I don't think that that's even problematic or contradictory.

03:42:51.380 The whole point here is the, the matter of like love and respect.

03:42:55.720 The idea is, is that your partner, if they feel like it's showing them love and respect

03:43:00.000 for you, for you to take the submissive position, they want to see that in a bow.

03:43:04.540 Is that appropriate?

03:43:05.680 That's really what the heart of the question is. 0.99

03:43:07.360 Now, whether or not you go to a Caesar's palace and bow for a fucking million dollars 0.99

03:43:10.960 because almost anybody would, right? 0.99

03:43:12.380 Yeah.

03:43:12.720 That's simple.

03:43:13.480 That's yeah.

03:43:14.040 10 minutes. 1.00

03:43:14.660 If it would benefit my entire family to go to a Caesar's palace and bow for 10 fucking 1.00

03:43:19.600 minutes in order to get a million bucks. 1.00

03:43:21.420 Yeah. 0.99

03:43:21.640 I'd fucking take the million bucks and laugh on my way out. 0.92

03:43:24.120 But in regards to what we're comparing here, where it's her job for part-time work of a 0.99

03:43:29.260 million dollars a shift.

03:43:30.440 And then the rest of her life is being spent with somebody.

03:43:33.600 It's like you going to Caesar's palace and they're saying, you have to give up your wife

03:43:36.880 and your children.

03:43:37.680 Here's a million dollars.

03:43:38.760 But now you're with me.

03:43:40.100 Yeah.

03:43:40.160 Yeah.

03:43:40.380 But that's a completely different type of hypothetical that really doesn't dive in.

03:43:44.500 I don't think that, I don't think the hypothetical gets to the heart of what we're trying to

03:43:48.160 get to.

03:43:48.700 No, that's her argument is that she would be willing to do it for work for the 10 minutes 0.99

03:43:53.200 of bowing at a restaurant.

03:43:54.060 Which is exactly why I think the hypothetical doesn't get to what we're trying to get to.

03:43:57.480 Yeah.

03:43:57.780 I would just concede that I think that most men, if I went to basically any man on planet

03:44:02.800 earth and was like, Hey, show up for 10 minutes and bow to people and I'll give you a million

03:44:05.760 bucks. 1.00

03:44:06.180 He doesn't give a shit. 1.00

03:44:07.260 And that takes like one moment. 0.99

03:44:07.820 He's like, whatever, I'll take the million bucks and laugh all the way to the bank.

03:44:11.260 Right?

03:44:11.580 Yeah.

03:44:11.920 That doesn't really get to the heart of what we're after here.

03:44:14.380 The heart of what we're after is, is that if a man wants that type of submission from his

03:44:18.820 woman, right, just wants it. 1.00

03:44:21.740 Yeah.

03:44:21.820 For some reason, he feels like this is the ultimate way in which he receives respect and

03:44:26.360 you really adore him and love him.

03:44:28.040 Would you do it?

03:44:28.820 Yeah.

03:44:29.540 I've also dated men.

03:44:33.600 Jungle donated $1,000.

03:44:36.640 Pop champagne.

03:44:38.200 Don't want to date.

03:44:39.680 Don't need a date.

03:44:41.160 My woman is stacked with gracious femininity. 1.00

03:44:44.300 The both of me is, if I want, she gives because she trusts me.

03:44:48.680 I don't ask for it.

03:44:49.900 BTW, I'm leaving the effemistry.

03:44:53.040 There we go, Jungle.

03:44:54.800 There we go.

03:44:57.080 I've dated guys that were like that, that like they loved that kind of dynamic, but they

03:45:01.240 also appreciated that I, you know, stronger in other areas.

03:45:05.240 It wasn't like I'm always subservient.

03:45:07.480 I'm always like submissive.

03:45:08.920 It was like they loved that I was strong and had a career and they empowered me in it.

03:45:13.260 And it was this really cool power dynamic.

03:45:14.940 A different example that you could give her that wasn't specifically a bow.

03:45:18.380 I'm wondering if it's the bow that makes it seem like it's a less than tender.

03:45:21.380 Oh, I think, I think the bow is, I think the bow is fine.

03:45:24.620 Champagne?

03:45:25.460 Champagne?

03:45:26.000 I think that, I think that the bow is a fine, fine example.

03:45:29.500 You know what, I'll just pass the bottle down. 1.00

03:45:30.460 The idea here is like women get on their knees and suck men's dicks. 1.00

03:45:33.700 It's like, don't, don't give me a bunch of shit about how bowing is too fucking, it's 1.00

03:45:38.860 a little too much to bow. 0.99

03:45:40.780 It's like, no, it's not.

03:45:41.920 Give me a break.

03:45:42.860 For every day to the same person, maybe they'll like, you know.

03:45:46.480 Made by Brian Ellis, by the way.

03:45:48.460 I mean, if there's reciprocity though, if the guy, if the guy's on his knees for you.

03:45:52.840 This is how I frame the argument.

03:45:54.280 And it's like, okay, you won't bow to a guy, but on the first date, you'll have sex with 0.99

03:46:00.260 him. 1.00

03:46:01.100 You'll give him head. 1.00

03:46:02.240 You'll let him blast on your face. 0.99

03:46:04.840 That's because I like that though, Brian.

03:46:07.560 The women feel like they're getting something out of that. 1.00

03:46:10.180 Whereas the bowing, they might think is just like a, it's just weird for some women. 1.00

03:46:14.460 I think she just may be an exception to the rule. 1.00

03:46:16.200 There's always going to be exceptions.

03:46:17.440 She may be the one of, you know, one out of the power woman. 1.00

03:46:21.320 No, I'm not going to.

03:46:21.960 We found the diamond in the row.

03:46:23.220 That's fine.

03:46:23.780 I think that's what it is.

03:46:24.520 I think, I feel like the majority, other than because you, you're a little more masculine

03:46:28.140 presenting.

03:46:29.000 Yeah.

03:46:29.240 I think the majority of us were like, yeah, we're going to do that.

03:46:31.440 I think the more feminine women may bow. 1.00

03:46:34.380 What the fuck? 1.00

03:46:34.960 He skipped it this way. 1.00

03:46:36.120 What the fuck? 1.00

03:46:37.240 What the fuck? 1.00

03:46:38.360 It's here. 1.00

03:46:39.060 That's yours.

03:46:40.180 No, that's yours.

03:46:41.380 No way.

03:46:41.960 No, that's yours.

03:46:42.560 No, it's not.

03:46:43.120 I've been drinking from the bottles.

03:46:44.880 Did you want any more?

03:46:45.680 No, I'm okay.

03:46:46.180 I've been drinking from the bottle.

03:46:47.160 Do you want more?

03:46:47.700 Yeah.

03:46:48.160 Fill up more for you.

03:46:49.600 Fill up more for you.

03:46:51.060 And then the rest is for, oh, wow.

03:46:53.780 Okay.

03:46:54.180 I mean, we have a little bit more time.

03:46:56.500 Yeah. 0.99

03:46:56.820 She's not fucking around. 1.00

03:47:00.060 Jungle, you're a legend, sir. 0.99

03:47:01.480 Thank you, sir.

03:47:01.960 Thank you, Jungle.

03:47:02.420 Thank you, Jungle.

03:47:03.400 Oh, my God.

03:47:03.800 This guy is on fire.

03:47:04.900 Sure.

03:47:05.400 I still have some of the original bottles, so we'll do a cheers.

03:47:09.340 Cheers to bowing.

03:47:15.120 Yeah.

03:47:15.920 I haven't.

03:47:17.100 By the way, Brian, I just want to let you know, two times, two times now, you're like,

03:47:22.080 Andrew's running away from the bow debate.

03:47:24.060 And I just wanted to kind of bring it back real quick.

03:47:28.780 Just saying.

03:47:29.820 I'm out, boys.

03:47:30.420 I'm out, boys.

03:47:31.100 By the way, the pizza and the burrito and the ice cream is coming.

03:47:34.100 It's coming.

03:47:34.560 It's on the way, boys.

03:47:36.300 Not for you.

03:47:37.360 You get nothing.

03:47:41.660 I've done that.

03:47:43.760 I did.

03:47:44.500 One time.

03:47:44.960 Well, okay.

03:47:45.480 There's one time.

03:47:46.380 You guys can find this.

03:47:47.240 There's some lore, right?

03:47:49.100 I don't know if the frame was on me.

03:47:51.840 Maybe they moved the frame off.

03:47:52.900 Maybe Brian can put it behind the scenes.

03:47:54.460 But one time, there was like an almost full champagne bottle. 0.99

03:47:58.140 And I was like, fuck, nobody's drinking anything. 0.97

03:48:00.500 So I had to make some content. 0.99

03:48:02.020 So I tried to toss it back.

03:48:03.640 And the whole thing flared up.

03:48:04.760 And it just went all over me.

03:48:06.620 It was terrible.

03:48:07.420 And there's something about champagne that bubbles more.

03:48:09.780 Andrew Pastey's asking what he wants to do a specific kind of pop.

03:48:16.200 In front of the female panelist.

03:48:19.080 What do you mean?

03:48:19.400 What do you mean?

03:48:19.420 So what could, like, there's the pizza pop.

03:48:21.420 There's the ice cream pop.

03:48:22.980 The burrito pop.

03:48:24.060 The champagne pop.

03:48:25.200 He wants to do a unique kind of pop.

03:48:26.320 I refuse to do any type of monkey activity in front of women. 1.00

03:48:30.000 Ever.

03:48:31.320 I actually refuse to do that.

03:48:33.800 Yeah.

03:48:34.400 Hmm.

03:48:35.340 I mean, pasty.

03:48:36.780 Pasty.

03:48:37.600 We have bottles of Cristal for one Ethereum.

03:48:42.420 My Ethereum thing is in the description of the video.

03:48:47.100 So you can do Cristal if you want to do something a bit unique.

03:48:52.080 There's also some.

03:48:53.060 Oh, I know.

03:48:53.640 Hang on.

03:48:54.240 Hang on.

03:48:54.520 I know.

03:48:54.920 I know what we could do.

03:48:56.220 And this will really piss off Brian.

03:48:58.200 And that will make everybody happy.

03:48:59.580 If you send in Brian one Ethereum, I'll light up a smoke in this room.

03:49:03.660 No, no, no.

03:49:04.440 Yes.

03:49:05.200 Yes. 0.99

03:49:05.640 Oh, he'll be so fucking mad. 0.99

03:49:07.340 He will be so pissed. 0.99

03:49:09.020 Look, honestly, I don't care.

03:49:10.320 It's the landlord.

03:49:11.240 Well, you'd be all right, bro.

03:49:13.040 One cigarette won't do it, bro.

03:49:15.000 Andrew, don't do it.

03:49:15.460 When it's out, dude.

03:49:18.820 Here's some options, Pasty George.

03:49:20.560 I'll propose some options.

03:49:22.020 For a pop, so a thousand, you can have one of the guests, including me.

03:49:28.940 Andrew, are you willing to do it? 0.99

03:49:29.580 I ain't weighing on the fucking hat, bro. 0.99

03:49:30.360 You're not wearing the hat. 1.00

03:49:31.100 No way.

03:49:31.620 Okay.

03:49:31.900 I'll wear it.

03:49:32.340 Do it for Andrew.

03:49:33.140 For 10 minutes, they'll wear the helicopter hat.

03:49:37.140 You also, I have a couple Dr. Seuss books.

03:49:40.460 You can ask one panelist.

03:49:41.740 I do want to see you wear the helicopter hat.

03:49:43.060 You want to see me wear the helicopter hat?

03:49:43.740 I do.

03:49:44.360 For no, I don't have, I have no good reason for it.

03:49:48.340 He's trying to deflect because he doesn't want to wear it. 0.99

03:49:50.480 I'm not wearing the fucking hat. 0.99

03:49:51.100 It should be for Andrew. 1.00

03:49:53.140 Cat in the hat.

03:49:54.080 Somebody has to read Cat in the hat.

03:49:55.760 I have green eggs and ham, and I have the butter and ham.

03:49:59.980 I do want to kind of see you read Cat in the hat.

03:50:02.480 For no good reason at all.

03:50:04.080 So, pasty, those are some options.

03:50:06.520 Read Harry Potter.

03:50:08.180 Those are some options.

03:50:09.220 In the hat.

03:50:10.160 I feel like he's stalling anyway.

03:50:12.460 It could be.

03:50:13.120 He's just, he's enjoying the attention.

03:50:15.220 He's enjoying the attention.

03:50:16.260 He's either Brian's altering.

03:50:17.660 We have name taken.

03:50:19.060 Whoa, wait.

03:50:19.620 So, anyone who dropped 6K can get a date with the women who appear on whatever. 0.99

03:50:23.060 Looks like Brian has officially advanced to the position of E-pimp, shaking my head for shame. 0.99

03:50:27.980 Fucking D-gen. 1.00

03:50:28.780 Fucking D-gen. 1.00

03:50:29.620 Wow. 1.00

03:50:29.820 Name taken.

03:50:31.140 Wow.

03:50:31.280 Look, hold on.

03:50:31.880 Hold on.

03:50:33.340 Look, it's not about the money, guys.

03:50:35.340 Yeah.

03:50:36.220 I just, that's my girl.

03:50:38.340 Gabrielle's my girl, and I'm trying to do her a solid.

03:50:40.780 I'm trying to do her a solid.

03:50:42.480 Jungle's the homie as of today. 1.00

03:50:45.100 I'm trying to get, you know.

03:50:46.240 What do you mean as of today?

03:50:47.420 He's my homie as of yesterday and the day before.

03:50:50.840 He's both of our homies.

03:50:53.200 He's your homie and he's my homie.

03:50:55.640 And he's my Caucasian.

03:50:56.940 Why are you going for the date?

03:50:57.380 Why is Jungle going for the date?

03:50:59.220 He's going for the date because he likes mixed-race women with piercings. 1.00

03:51:05.840 He likes frizzy-haired, sorry, curly-haired. 0.94

03:51:09.480 What the hell?

03:51:09.980 I mean, what?

03:51:10.260 I'm not frizzy.

03:51:11.180 I'm beautiful.

03:51:12.600 I'm beautiful.

03:51:13.100 She likes, he likes- 0.98

03:51:14.280 What the hell? 0.99

03:51:15.020 Sexism's going around here, Bobby. 1.00

03:51:16.780 What the hell? 0.98

03:51:18.440 He likes curly-haired women with glasses and daddy issues and piercings. 1.00

03:51:27.980 Wait.

03:51:28.480 Sorry.

03:51:29.140 You need a way bigger shovel to bury that hole, though.

03:51:32.300 No, I mean-

03:51:32.980 You need a way bigger-

03:51:33.740 I love you being by me.

03:51:35.200 I love this group.

03:51:36.240 Like, we all got each other.

03:51:37.360 You meant something else.

03:51:38.220 I didn't want to say that.

03:51:39.280 That was just like the champagne.

03:51:41.300 It was her fault.

03:51:43.100 She distracted him. 0.97

03:51:45.040 Oh, Pasty, you goblin. 0.82

03:51:47.020 Okay, I gave you options. 0.70

03:51:48.580 We got Kat in the hat.

03:51:49.480 Okay, come on. 1.00

03:51:50.160 I want to see Brian wear the fucking hat. 1.00

03:51:51.020 He's trolling 10 Canadians every time. 1.00

03:51:52.140 I'll wear the fucking- 1.00

03:51:53.060 No, I'll wear the hat. 1.00

03:51:55.120 True.

03:51:55.740 If you want, but you've got to specify who you want to wear the hat. 0.99

03:51:58.240 Brian, Brian's going to wear the fucking hat. 0.98

03:51:59.480 Avon, thank you for the soup chat. 1.00

03:52:00.920 Appreciate it, Avon.

03:52:01.960 I think Brian would wear it and have fun with it.

03:52:04.620 Andrew would hate it.

03:52:05.480 I would hate it.

03:52:06.220 Yeah.

03:52:07.280 And I would not do it.

03:52:08.680 I think people have been really supportive tonight.

03:52:11.180 Yes, they have.

03:52:11.760 Because of the just total, you, the past three days, Andrew, you have had a complete, you've

03:52:20.780 had three debates.

03:52:21.860 Lewandowski for the hat trick.

03:52:23.400 And somehow he's put it in.

03:52:25.500 Oh, my word.

03:52:26.380 This is one of Lewandowski's plaintiff.

03:52:29.540 Hat trick.

03:52:30.380 Andrew, you, really, three debates in a row.

03:52:33.200 You did fantastic.

03:52:34.460 You secured the W's.

03:52:35.660 You secured the victory for all three of your most recent debates.

03:52:39.660 And I think this is just the audience coming in and they're doing a little celebration here.

03:52:44.880 As well they should.

03:52:46.120 But, Brian, there's more.

03:52:48.520 Aren't there more debates coming, including tomorrow?

03:52:51.320 Yes, we have, guys, tomorrow, 3.30 p.m., big debate.

03:52:56.900 Possibly this might be bigger than all the previous ones.

03:53:00.000 And then we have a special show on Tuesday.

03:53:01.920 So be sure to tune into that.

03:53:03.780 Don't miss it.

03:53:04.780 Both of them are going to be good.

03:53:06.140 They're going to be good.

03:53:07.220 Wait, do you guys have like a master class type of, I feel like I heard something like that.

03:53:10.820 Debate University, yes.

03:53:12.060 Yes.

03:53:12.500 Speaking of.

03:53:12.640 Get over to Debate University.

03:53:14.060 You're welcome.

03:53:14.480 Give me all of your money so I can go buy guns with it.

03:53:17.140 But you will get something in exchange.

03:53:19.080 You will learn at a debate.

03:53:21.660 Wait.

03:53:22.120 And it will be good.

03:53:23.940 He said one Ethereum.

03:53:25.760 One?

03:53:26.320 Somebody said they sent an Ethereum.

03:53:28.580 You got an Ethereum?

03:53:29.840 Wait.

03:53:30.400 Wait.

03:53:31.340 So this guy on Twitch said one Ethereum, there you go, four minutes ago.

03:53:38.500 But I do not see any indication of an Ethereum.

03:53:42.500 Ethereum lies.

03:53:43.400 And that's 10,000?

03:53:45.000 It's like right now I think it's 2,500 last I checked.

03:53:47.960 Oh.

03:53:48.240 For one Ethereum.

03:53:49.160 One Ethereum.

03:53:50.100 Crypto.

03:53:50.680 But I don't see it.

03:53:51.700 So maybe it was a little bait.

03:53:53.960 Okay.

03:53:54.720 Oh my God, bro. 0.93

03:53:55.860 Pasty, you are being a little goblin, dude. 1.00

03:53:59.040 Saddle up. 0.96

03:54:01.720 Saddle up, bro.

03:54:02.620 Stop with these super chats.

03:54:04.600 You're talking a big game.

03:54:05.760 Give him no more attention.

03:54:07.400 That's what you do.

03:54:08.000 You just dry it out.

03:54:09.680 Andre, thank you for the – these two – okay.

03:54:12.200 Isn't that what they say we should do with you guys?

03:54:13.660 Thank you, Andre.

03:54:14.660 What?

03:54:15.020 Don't give him attention?

03:54:15.860 Don't give any of you any attention.

03:54:17.280 Oh my God, Christopher Murphy, you're a legend, sir.

03:54:19.220 I mean, but I'll just keep it.

03:54:19.600 Thank you for the effort to money.

03:54:21.020 Thank you, Christopher.

03:54:22.500 All right.

03:54:23.040 We should get back to the show, though.

03:54:24.660 And then, you know, me and Andrew will debate a little later on about the battle.

03:54:28.900 By the way, I just wanted to ask everybody who's in the audience currently, either if you're watching from The Crucible or hear from The Great Whatever,

03:54:35.900 did you see that that chick from yesterday decided to take five to seven days off for mental health? 1.00

03:54:47.260 I did see that.

03:54:48.200 Yeah.

03:54:48.620 Andrew. 0.77

03:54:49.060 I didn't do shit.

03:54:51.040 I was super nice. 1.00

03:54:52.340 You monster, Andrew. 0.99

03:54:53.440 What happened? 1.00

03:54:54.400 In 1v1 debates, I'm always super nice unless the other person's a fucking dickhead. 1.00

03:54:59.120 Yeah. 1.00

03:54:59.560 That's fair.

03:55:00.260 Do you usually see any people who are just almost opposite of your viewpoint?

03:55:03.920 Even – no.

03:55:04.460 That's what the debate – yeah.

03:55:05.380 I haven't seen 1v1 debates.

03:55:06.580 A lot of times, the closer they are, the more brutal the debate.

03:55:09.460 Really?

03:55:09.760 I can see that.

03:55:10.820 Yeah.

03:55:12.040 Yeah.

03:55:12.300 But you like debating.

03:55:13.680 Well, I just think that my view is correct.

03:55:16.800 Yeah.

03:55:16.920 So I debate it from a passion form because I think it trumps all other worldviews.

03:55:22.360 That's what I debate.

03:55:23.960 Sure.

03:55:24.200 That's why I'm good at it is because I honestly believe my worldview is better.

03:55:29.760 That's why.

03:55:31.500 Oh, man.

03:55:32.140 This – hold on.

03:55:33.580 Jungle.

03:55:34.540 You might laugh.

03:55:35.940 No, no.

03:55:36.660 I bet you can see it in you.

03:55:38.100 You can see it in you.

03:55:39.880 Jungle donated $1,000.

03:55:41.900 Oh, he wasn't trying to get at –

03:55:44.520 You're destroying everything on Sir Jungle's name.

03:55:47.920 I have a woman. 0.75

03:55:49.100 She adores me.

03:55:50.460 She's watching with me.

03:55:52.120 Brian.

03:55:52.500 Oh.

03:55:53.520 You need to kneel, Brian, and apologize.

03:55:56.340 Right.

03:55:56.860 What did I do?

03:55:57.680 You might have a bow.

03:55:58.320 I didn't do anything.

03:55:59.280 There might be a bow from the guys. 0.83

03:56:00.840 You need to kneel a bow.

03:56:01.520 You need to kneel a bow. 1.00

03:56:01.560 You need to have a guy up who's got a fucking chick at home, Brian, after he supports the 1.00

03:56:05.260 show. 0.99

03:56:05.680 Oh.

03:56:05.820 I'm doing that.

03:56:06.480 First off, I'm also out of shame.

03:56:07.800 Hey, Brian.

03:56:08.580 Hey, Brian.

03:56:09.140 Brian.

03:56:09.760 Brian.

03:56:10.260 Oh, no.

03:56:10.760 I apologize.

03:56:12.800 For what?

03:56:13.560 Apologize.

03:56:14.180 For trying to –

03:56:15.140 Oh, my God.

03:56:15.780 There was just a misunderstanding, in my opinion. 1.00

03:56:17.300 Fucking horrible, Brian. 1.00

03:56:18.140 Yeah. 1.00

03:56:18.500 Outside perspective, it was a misunderstanding.

03:56:20.000 Why would you do that, Brian?

03:56:20.460 Wait.

03:56:20.860 Here, let me play his last message, though.

03:56:22.940 Okay, play it.

03:56:26.080 Hold on.

03:56:26.900 You're telling me this isn't –

03:56:27.880 Hang on.

03:56:28.700 Let me listen to it.

03:56:29.380 How does that equate to he wants a date, Brian?

03:56:46.720 I don't know.

03:56:47.560 That's not even in the same universe.

03:56:49.560 He's making – he's literally contrasting a hypothetical.

03:56:53.020 He's like, so since it is the case that you're dreaming of me all the time, just remember

03:56:57.780 I'll always be here when you bow in your dreams to a man like me.

03:57:00.980 How does that equate to, like, he wants a date, dude? 1.00

03:57:03.580 Oh, shit. 1.00

03:57:04.280 Hold on. 1.00

03:57:04.680 Wait.

03:57:04.940 It's obfuscation. 0.99

03:57:06.060 It's fucking obfuscation, bro. 1.00

03:57:09.680 What's going on? 1.00

03:57:10.820 What the fuck? 1.00

03:57:11.760 What the fuck? 1.00

03:57:13.480 Pizza? 1.00

03:57:13.880 Pizza and burritos. 1.00

03:57:15.280 No, I just – I need to order the shit. 1.00

03:57:17.260 Fucking odd dog, dude. 1.00

03:57:18.840 Hold on. 1.00

03:57:19.860 Hold on. 0.99

03:57:19.920 What kind of obfuscation – what the fuck kind of obfuscation? 0.97

03:57:22.540 I still think it was a misunderstanding, so I will – 0.97

03:57:25.300 How was that a misunderstanding?

03:57:27.600 Because he said, you're dreaming of me.

03:57:30.140 Now, I know he probably meant a man like me, but it sounds like, oh, me, jungle F, here's

03:57:35.460 a thousand –

03:57:35.760 No, he actually meant him.

03:57:37.200 Okay.

03:57:37.560 And then he says, I'm in your dreams.

03:57:39.780 That doesn't equate to, like, I want you.

03:57:41.620 That equates to, like, you want me.

03:57:44.540 If I say, I'm in your dreams, how does that equate to, I want you?

03:57:47.720 But wait, is that still okay for you to say if you – like, would your wife be okay if

03:57:51.600 you said something to that?

03:57:53.140 Yeah, if I said, oh, look, this chick, I literally dominate her mind in her dreams. 1.00

03:57:58.280 My wife – how would – why would she be upset by that? 0.98

03:58:00.360 But why you specifically?

03:58:01.360 You could –

03:58:02.100 Because that would be who X person would be dreaming of.

03:58:06.200 I get it.

03:58:06.920 I still think there's a –

03:58:07.960 It could be easily misunderstood.

03:58:10.160 That's all I'm saying. 0.99

03:58:10.380 No fucking way. 0.99

03:58:11.240 I could see where Brian was trying to give him a shot. 1.00

03:58:14.820 You know.

03:58:16.200 He settles her out and said chair five. 0.94

03:58:18.560 Look, Jungle, Jungle, I got your back.

03:58:20.900 I feel like I got your back pretty good here.

03:58:23.660 Brian does, too.

03:58:24.240 I'm just saying Jungle, we understand. 0.99

03:58:25.820 Hey, Brian does, too.

03:58:26.660 Chair five, we have your back.

03:58:27.660 He does, too.

03:58:27.860 Yeah.

03:58:28.320 Well, I've got Brian's, too.

03:58:29.580 Brian was like, yeah, I just thought I was doing something good.

03:58:32.180 That part.

03:58:32.900 That's what I'm saying.

03:58:33.420 And, like, it could have been easily misunderstood. 0.71

03:58:36.640 Wait, Jungle, I don't want you to feel like you're getting screwed over here.

03:58:40.180 We're out of champagne. 0.97

03:58:41.440 You put on the dunce cap, bro. 1.00

03:58:42.900 Put on the fucking dunce cap. 1.00

03:58:43.560 Door dash that. 1.00

03:58:44.580 Can you tell me what you want?

03:58:45.620 You don't have to send in a thousand.

03:58:46.980 Send in, like, a ten. 1.00

03:58:47.040 Put on the fucking dunce cap so I can flick it. 0.99

03:58:48.600 He didn't specify. 0.99

03:58:49.700 Yeah, but did you see what you did?

03:58:50.800 He didn't specify. 1.00

03:58:51.300 Put on the dunce cap so I can flick the fucking propeller, Brian. 1.00

03:58:55.400 After what you did. 1.00

03:58:56.240 Okay.

03:58:56.500 It could sound like the monkey music.

03:58:57.600 This is Jungle F.

03:58:58.440 We've got to take a bit of initiative here.

03:59:00.400 I'm assuming instead of the champagne pop, we're going to do a dunce cap pop. 0.99

03:59:05.900 So, I'm going to wear that shit backwards, though. 0.99

03:59:09.040 Spin it, spin it. 1.00

03:59:11.660 What the fuck? 1.00

03:59:12.460 Oh, my God. 1.00

03:59:13.840 No. 0.99

03:59:14.120 The dunce cap is a dunce. 0.99

03:59:15.720 No. 0.99

03:59:16.780 Oh, he got it.

03:59:17.980 Hold on.

03:59:18.660 Let me put it on tight.

03:59:19.600 Maybe I've got to do it, like, a little tighter.

03:59:21.560 I think your head's too flat.

03:59:23.300 Wow.

03:59:23.720 Thank you.

03:59:24.800 The hat doesn't want to sit.

03:59:26.300 All right.

03:59:27.220 Wait.

03:59:28.020 Hold on.

03:59:28.580 It's still... 0.99

03:59:29.120 God damn, this is small, man. 0.99

03:59:30.200 This is for... 0.99

03:59:30.960 I feel like I have to fix this propeller.

03:59:34.880 What the...

03:59:35.680 Sorry.

03:59:37.860 One sec, guys.

03:59:38.460 All right.

03:59:38.960 One sec.

03:59:39.320 We're close.

03:59:39.540 We're close.

03:59:40.220 We're almost there.

03:59:40.820 We're almost there.

03:59:42.760 All right.

03:59:43.220 Here we go.

03:59:43.920 Here we go.

03:59:45.720 There we go.

03:59:46.520 There we go.

03:59:48.800 There we go.

03:59:50.640 There you go, Jungle. 0.96

03:59:52.300 Revenge, Jungle.

03:59:53.380 Revenge.

03:59:55.900 Here, dude, again.

03:59:56.840 All right. 1.00

03:59:57.260 Oh, what the fuck? 1.00

04:00:00.960 You're too strong, Andrew. 1.00

04:00:01.960 It's a bad startup.

04:00:02.680 There we go.

04:00:03.060 It was a bad startup.

04:00:04.160 Hang on.

04:00:04.440 Let's get it really moving here.

04:00:07.960 There we go.

04:00:08.800 Now, look into the camera, Andrew.

04:00:10.180 Look into the camera.

04:00:10.800 I think we're going to join this.

04:00:14.180 Make the eye contact.

04:00:15.460 It's important.

04:00:16.280 It's important.

04:00:18.820 Okay.

04:00:19.400 All right.

04:00:21.700 The show's been derailed for like an hour at this point.

04:00:24.280 I feel like we should get back into it.

04:00:25.940 Well, Jungle started it.

04:00:27.640 It's all Jungle. 0.98

04:00:28.500 Jungle.

04:00:29.080 It's all your fault.

04:00:30.020 Yeah.

04:00:30.440 All your fault.

04:00:31.480 We have a message here. 0.99

04:00:32.400 One shot.

04:00:33.020 Andrew, what's up?

04:00:33.700 Forgive me for the simping I'm about to do, but...

04:00:36.880 No, no, no.

04:00:37.220 That's enough.

04:00:38.180 Oh, wait.

04:00:38.740 That's enough.

04:00:40.600 Forgive you for the simping.

04:00:41.460 I can't forgive you for the simping I'm about to do.

04:00:42.740 Wait.

04:00:42.880 We got to do a sim tax, though.

04:00:44.520 Here's what we're going to do.

04:00:45.620 Sim tax?

04:00:45.640 Sim?

04:00:45.900 I'm going to read it, but you're going to pay the sim tax.

04:00:48.560 One shot.

04:00:49.760 There's a luminous glow about you that captures everyone's attention. 1.00

04:00:56.380 That's fucking disgusting. 1.00

04:00:58.340 What the fuck? 1.00

04:00:59.440 I'm like... 1.00

04:01:00.280 I'm just going to start hitting the button, Brian.

04:01:01.900 Your elegance and radiance glows like the midday sun and are impossible to ignore.

04:01:07.780 Okay.

04:01:07.860 Now he's...

04:01:09.140 Thank you.

04:01:09.720 Excuse me. 0.99

04:01:10.900 What the fuck? 1.00

04:01:13.580 Ew. 1.00

04:01:14.260 What the fuck? 1.00

04:01:16.540 Ugh. 1.00

04:01:18.300 Dude.

04:01:18.960 He's really Brian.

04:01:19.820 I'm not impressed. 1.00

04:01:20.720 What the fuck? 1.00

04:01:22.080 One shot. 1.00

04:01:23.280 Yo, one shot. 1.00

04:01:24.760 You got to do a fucking champagne pop. 1.00

04:01:27.580 That's your sim... 1.00

04:01:28.400 You know what?

04:01:28.960 Nah.

04:01:29.200 Look.

04:01:30.520 Actually, yes.

04:01:31.340 You got to do a champagne...

04:01:32.160 If you're going to do a simp message, you got to pay the simp tax, and that's a champagne

04:01:36.040 pop.

04:01:37.020 Avon.

04:01:37.420 Thank you for the super chat, man.

04:01:38.560 Appreciate it.

04:01:38.940 Or I'll leave it up for a little longer.

04:01:40.100 These are below the read, though.

04:01:41.980 Guys, if you're enjoying the stream, $100 read.

04:01:44.000 TTS 200.

04:01:44.960 I know we've been kind of getting off topic here, just like meta conversation.

04:01:48.940 We're going to get back into the substance of the show, talking about dating.

04:01:52.160 But, um...

04:01:54.480 Hold on.

04:01:56.720 This guy.

04:01:58.800 This guy, bro.

04:02:01.560 Okay.

04:02:04.160 This guy. 0.99

04:02:06.060 This guy's crazy. 0.92

04:02:09.120 Chair 5 can wear it.

04:02:10.840 I DM whatever so you can check that later.

04:02:13.160 I'll check my DMs.

04:02:14.160 I can wear it just because.

04:02:16.280 I DM whatever so you can check that later.

04:02:19.180 And Andrew is 100% exactly correct.

04:02:22.640 Then Chair 5 can wear it just because.

04:02:24.460 Where did you DM Jungle on...

04:02:28.340 Is it my personal Instagram, or did you DM on whatever?

04:02:31.760 Because I don't see you on whatever.

04:02:33.760 One sec.

04:02:34.320 Let's see.

04:02:34.700 Did you send it to my personal?

04:02:36.780 Did he do it to the personal Instagram?

04:02:39.700 All right, guys.

04:02:40.100 If you're enjoying the stream, like the video also. 0.99

04:02:45.740 Damn, bro. 0.98

04:02:46.200 I don't see it. 1.00

04:02:47.300 Where did you DM?

04:02:48.240 Tell me where you DMed Jungle. 1.00

04:02:49.580 All right.

04:02:50.760 I have a quick question for you, Brian.

04:02:52.540 What's that? 0.95

04:02:52.700 With your big labia matter. 0.99

04:02:54.060 Is that, like, a deal breaker for you?

04:02:56.880 I'm just curious.

04:02:58.000 I'm just generally curious.

04:02:59.340 Like, you know how people have their deal breakers and you're advocating for it? 0.90

04:03:02.300 What if you met your perfect woman, but she doesn't have big labia? 1.00

04:03:06.120 I don't even know what big labia would... 1.00

04:03:08.300 What the size is. 0.54

04:03:09.280 Are you measuring?

04:03:09.760 Are you, like, an innie or an outie?

04:03:12.260 Is that what you're talking about?

04:03:13.160 I'm not going to discuss mine.

04:03:14.880 I'm just curious if that's a deal breaker for you.

04:03:17.940 If she doesn't...

04:03:19.280 If she doesn't have what you consider big labia, but in every other aspect, that's your... 1.00

04:03:22.560 No, it's not a deal breaker.

04:03:24.220 Oh, okay.

04:03:24.560 It's not a deal breaker.

04:03:25.060 I was just curious.

04:03:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

04:03:26.500 That's a good question.

04:03:26.600 Because I see a lot of these men buying your BLM hoodies.

04:03:30.720 Oh, speaking of which...

04:03:31.400 I'm just curious.

04:03:32.580 Speaking of which, guys, shop.whatever.com.

04:03:35.900 We've got big labia, big labia matter hoodies, t-shirts, if you want to get one, shop.whatever.com.

04:03:44.980 And we'll give you a shout out if you send one in.

04:03:48.520 Streamlabs can show merch purchases.

04:03:50.740 Yeah, it's not a deal breaker, but it is a preference.

04:03:54.580 Preferences are a lot.

04:03:55.900 That's right.

04:03:56.900 I mean, women have genitalia preference. 1.00

04:03:58.560 You guys want a guy who's cut. 1.00

04:03:59.920 You guys want a guy with a big dick. 1.00

04:04:01.480 Yeah, no, no. 1.00

04:04:01.880 There's nothing wrong with preference.

04:04:03.100 I was just curious because some people are very like...

04:04:05.880 I know some women who are like, oh, you can't be under a certain... 1.00

04:04:08.820 Which to me is crazy, but everybody has their preference.

04:04:12.780 Yes, pasty.

04:04:14.120 We could probably do this, assuming it's available.

04:04:17.500 But yeah, we could probably do that.

04:04:19.720 But if it's like some super unique alcohol, but I think Andrew would really like this.

04:04:24.080 So yeah, we'll go and buy it if you do the pot. 0.90

04:04:27.540 But I got to wait until he's back.

04:04:28.800 He's out on the balcony smoking a cig.

04:04:31.000 So, but yeah, we'll do it, pasty.

04:04:32.420 I'm going to hold you to that though, pasty. 0.97

04:04:34.500 Pasty needs to put his money where his mouth is.

04:04:36.960 He's been doing 10 for...

04:04:38.380 What the...

04:04:39.340 Wait, I'm going to pull that up for...

04:04:41.940 Yeah, I'll tell him.

04:04:44.120 Thank you, Akon.

04:04:45.400 Or wait, what?

04:04:46.600 Okay, where are we here?

04:04:48.180 Let me get through some of the show notes while we're just waiting.

04:04:52.020 Let's see here.

04:04:55.280 Everybody's gone from the table.

04:04:57.320 Oh, Natalie, are you going to do some hypnotherapy for us or what?

04:05:02.140 No.

04:05:03.380 Okay.

04:05:04.380 Is hypnotherapy somewhat comparable to like placebo effect where it's like, okay, maybe if

04:05:09.500 they think they're making something happen?

04:05:11.740 So yeah, actually.

04:05:12.940 So some of it is that too.

04:05:14.640 Like affirmations have been shown and proven that like if you force yourself to believe

04:05:19.760 something or say it over and over and over again, you'll actually behave that way and

04:05:23.540 can break through any limits or fears that you have.

04:05:26.360 Tony Robbins is really good about that.

04:05:27.980 So Tony Robbins has this thing where like he'll do this trick and technique where whenever

04:05:32.760 you're feeling down and out, you just get up, start moving around, move that energy,

04:05:36.120 move that whatever.

04:05:36.680 And then what he does is he'll like scream affirmations until he forces himself to believe

04:05:42.520 it.

04:05:42.840 So you can dilulu your way into an amazing life for sure.

04:05:46.480 So yeah, that's kind of whatever you believe.

04:05:49.280 If you can force yourself to believe that you're worthy and you're good enough, then you can

04:05:52.080 definitely break limits, make more money.

04:05:55.560 Oh my God, who the hell can't?

04:05:57.400 I'll be, go first. 0.79

04:05:58.920 I ate a bunch of chips.

04:06:01.380 Sorry if I'm like.

04:06:02.140 Can I ask her a question?

04:06:03.480 Is it about hypnotherapy?

04:06:04.660 Because please don't, more about like her, her strategy, I guess, for clients and stuff.

04:06:13.060 So like, have you ever been, have you ever been engaged or married and have you gotten

04:06:20.220 people married through your services?

04:06:23.160 I'll leave it on for a bit.

04:06:23.940 Yeah.

04:06:24.160 A lot of my clients, I've been coaching for a long time.

04:06:28.300 Coming up, I'm close to a decade.

04:06:30.280 I have a lot of clients right now that are, they're finding themselves, they're, you know,

04:06:33.900 getting better in their career, they're finding the love of their lives, the women that are

04:06:37.640 good pairs for them, getting married, all that.

04:06:40.080 I was close to getting engaged, but he wasn't the right one.

04:06:43.220 And I knew it.

04:06:44.500 Have you been to their weddings?

04:06:46.020 Like, did you get invited as the matchmaker?

04:06:48.480 I typically don't really break those.

04:06:51.160 I kind of like, there's only been very, very few clients that I've met in person, unless

04:06:55.540 I'm doing a bootcamp.

04:06:56.340 But I try and keep that, yeah, I keep that, that space.

04:07:00.560 So you don't engage in like matchmaking services?

04:07:02.160 Oh my God, who the hell can?

04:07:04.620 Me too, bro.

04:07:05.940 That's my workout.

04:07:07.320 That's my dating.

04:07:08.640 I mean, I'm sorry, your hat is way more entertaining.

04:07:11.840 It's true.

04:07:12.640 It is.

04:07:13.020 The hat is much better.

04:07:14.180 It is true.

04:07:14.720 Okay.

04:07:15.020 Remember, boys are more, you know, they have a different...

04:07:17.300 They have the thing.

04:07:18.080 Yeah.

04:07:18.300 You have no therapy though.

04:07:19.680 No, I don't really, but I told him, I was like, I don't really...

04:07:21.700 I asked her if it was like placebo effect.

04:07:23.460 Yeah, and you can, like I said, you can delusion your way into believing whatever you want.

04:07:28.380 You know that.

04:07:29.140 Yeah.

04:07:29.580 I do.

04:07:30.240 Yeah.

04:07:31.320 Christopher Murphy donated $200.

04:07:34.560 How do you guys like bourbon or cigars?

04:07:37.160 Love.

04:07:37.660 Rob Samuels is a family friend.

04:07:39.140 You know, I love cigars.

04:07:40.440 I do.

04:07:41.000 Yeah, man.

04:07:41.320 So I could hook you up with some custom maker's mark.

04:07:42.880 That'd be dope. 0.98

04:07:43.620 I'd love that.

04:07:44.560 Thank you, Christopher Murphy.

04:07:45.780 Send it through.

04:07:46.420 Just send me a DM on Instagram and we can arrange for that.

04:07:49.440 Somebody bought some merch on the merch store.

04:07:52.080 It just says someone.

04:07:53.840 Looks like they bought a t-shirt, so appreciate that.

04:07:55.760 I think the food's here.

04:07:57.640 Yep.

04:07:58.500 Okay.

04:07:59.100 So really quick, where do we have...

04:08:01.280 You see the women's like... 1.00

04:08:02.260 Oh, eyes light up.

04:08:04.320 Andrew, there's a...

04:08:05.640 Is there a liquor ordering service in your area?

04:08:07.500 If so, could you order a bottle of liquor of Andrew's favorite liquor so he could enjoy

04:08:11.660 a glass of it, but not the whole bottle for a pop?

04:08:14.760 Yes.

04:08:15.120 What's your favorite alcohol?

04:08:16.280 So I'm a partial to vodka and soda, but you can get it pre-canned.

04:08:20.700 And I did tell Brian about this.

04:08:23.420 I can actually walk right next door and grab those right now, Brian.

04:08:26.060 It'll only take me a minute.

04:08:27.620 Wait, you can get vodka in a can?

04:08:29.740 Vodka and soda.

04:08:30.520 Wait, wait, hold on.

04:08:31.080 Would you like to have one with me?

04:08:32.380 No, I mean, you're sober today.

04:08:33.680 Yes, I would, but I can't break that.

04:08:38.580 But yes, I would, but not right now.

04:08:41.440 Everyone else can have one.

04:08:42.480 Is there a brand?

04:08:43.320 Like, do you want whiskey?

04:08:44.220 There's a brand.

04:08:45.500 Okay.

04:08:45.860 What is it?

04:08:47.140 Well, I just told you.

04:08:48.460 It's called Mule, yeah.

04:08:49.780 Oh, here.

04:08:50.300 Let me write it down.

04:08:51.180 Thank you for asking, too.

04:08:52.100 Or I can just walk right next door.

04:08:53.240 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

04:08:53.960 Okay.

04:08:54.140 Wait, wait, wait.

04:08:54.520 Okay, okay.

04:08:55.080 No, no, no, no.

04:08:55.800 Hold on.

04:08:56.260 Okay.

04:09:03.680 Do you want him to pay before you order, or do you want to already have it on hand for

04:09:15.080 the pop?

04:09:15.180 No, he has to do the pop, then we'll get it.

04:09:17.100 Then we'll get it.

04:09:17.620 Yeah.

04:09:17.900 We were waiting for you to put your money.

04:09:19.860 We'll get the drink.

04:09:20.140 Okay, so we'll get the drink, but you've got to do the pop.

04:09:22.540 I'm like, you've got to pay first.

04:09:23.260 No more, okay. 0.99

04:09:25.040 No more bullshit. 0.97

04:09:26.300 Andrew, can you ask a question for the panel while I get the food all suggested? 0.93

04:09:30.940 Thank you, Brian.

04:09:32.620 And thank you, Jungle.

04:09:33.520 I feel like he just wants to not be on camera with that dunce cap.

04:09:36.840 It's restarting when you get back, Brian.

04:09:39.340 I'm keeping time.

04:09:41.620 Yeah, it pauses.

04:09:42.540 I'm sure that's...

04:09:43.780 Yeah.

04:09:44.520 Okay, so let's talk about hypnotherapy.

04:09:46.340 Oh, God.

04:09:47.140 Okay, let's do it.

04:09:48.540 Why do you do hypnotherapy? 1.00

04:09:49.820 You know it's bullshit. 1.00

04:09:50.840 It is. 1.00

04:09:51.860 Why do you do it?

04:09:52.880 Some of it...

04:09:53.280 But I don't do it that much.

04:09:55.020 I do a little bit.

04:09:56.640 Yes.

04:09:57.460 Is it...

04:09:58.140 Yes, yes.

04:09:58.740 Yeah.

04:09:58.940 There's gluten.

04:09:59.860 No.

04:10:00.500 You can't do it.

04:10:01.580 It's okay.

04:10:02.460 One, two, three.

04:10:04.080 That's more pizza for me.

04:10:05.360 Yeah.

04:10:05.780 He can have mine.

04:10:07.280 I would eat the meat off of it.

04:10:11.320 You just do the toppings.

04:10:13.680 Yeah.

04:10:13.980 I'll just scoop that off.

04:10:15.520 It's very keto.

04:10:16.360 You can just wait until all of the...

04:10:18.880 Like, everybody grabs their piece.

04:10:20.220 You know how at the bottom of the pizza, there's always, like, up to the toppings?

04:10:22.840 It's so good.

04:10:22.940 Two drops of cheese at the bottom.

04:10:23.920 It's my favorite.

04:10:25.020 Yeah.

04:10:25.360 Whenever I'm coffee stuff.

04:10:26.080 The pizza box, it's, like, treats for fat kids, where you just, like, grab them, and you

04:10:29.400 just, you know... 0.54

04:10:30.440 Yeah.

04:10:31.360 Okay.

04:10:31.740 To answer your question, honestly, like, I've done some of it, and I understand, like, affirmations.

04:10:37.200 So, I understand that if someone else comes in and gives me better thoughts than what

04:10:41.640 I'm telling myself...

04:10:42.760 Like, I grew up with a voice in my head that said some nasty things and mean things.

04:10:47.120 A voice in your head?

04:10:48.180 Do you not have, like, a voice that tells you things?

04:10:50.660 Like, an idea?

04:10:51.520 Like, ideas.

04:10:52.280 Well, okay.

04:10:53.020 I have an internal dialogue.

04:10:54.440 Internal dialogue.

04:10:55.020 But that's my voice.

04:10:56.140 That's what I mean.

04:10:56.940 Yeah, okay.

04:10:57.080 So, there was my internal dialogue that didn't say very nice things.

04:11:00.320 So, there was, like, hypnotherapy or people who would give me better affirmations or better

04:11:06.180 things for me to say in my head, my internal dialogue.

04:11:09.360 So, that.

04:11:10.140 But, honestly, with a lot of it, getting the hypnotherapy certification, and I'm just going

04:11:17.300 to say it, getting the hypnotherapy certification was easy.

04:11:21.500 And, really, honestly, I love NLP.

04:11:24.300 I do NLP.

04:11:25.000 I do love that.

04:11:25.780 What's NLP?

04:11:27.080 Neurolinguistic programming.

04:11:28.060 Tony Robbins does a lot of it.

04:11:29.640 You do it, essentially, too.

04:11:31.380 You have, like, you know patterns.

04:11:32.800 You spot patterns.

04:11:33.580 People reveal everything.

04:11:34.840 So, you do a form of it for sure.

04:11:36.880 Like, you listen, you hear, you figure it out.

04:11:39.980 That, I really like that certification.

04:11:41.700 But when I went off on my own, I started my own company, and I started my own business.

04:11:45.860 I just...

04:11:46.580 Oh.

04:11:47.040 Yeah.

04:11:47.300 I like to the...

04:11:47.820 She can't do gluten. 0.91

04:11:48.900 Okay.

04:11:49.580 Oh, yeah.

04:11:49.980 Does everyone have...

04:11:50.580 She got one.

04:11:51.220 You got one.

04:11:51.780 I'm trying to, like, direct.

04:11:52.800 I'm so sorry.

04:11:53.440 No, you're good.

04:11:54.100 Food's important.

04:11:55.580 And then one more for her.

04:11:57.660 I'll take this one.

04:11:58.600 Yeah.

04:11:58.800 That's all right.

04:11:59.480 Thank you.

04:12:00.040 There we go.

04:12:00.620 There we go.

04:12:01.480 I just liked all of the little fancy...

04:12:05.220 Not fancy, but the things.

04:12:07.240 They'd be like, I've got this, and I've got this, and I've got this.

04:12:09.520 I'm a certified hypnotherapist.

04:12:10.800 Yes.

04:12:11.080 I'm a certified this.

04:12:12.080 Exactly.

04:12:12.940 Yeah.

04:12:13.420 There's some little things that I'll do, but yeah.

04:12:15.360 Exactly.

04:12:15.720 And I'm being honest with it.

04:12:17.240 I did the certifications and all that because I wanted to be like, look, I know what the

04:12:20.700 heck I'm doing.

04:12:21.440 I'm going to help you. 1.00

04:12:22.520 I'm going to pull your head out of your ass. 1.00

04:12:23.880 Isn't that kind of like guru shit, though? 1.00

04:12:25.360 I hate guru shit, but yeah. 1.00

04:12:26.800 But that is guru shit. 1.00

04:12:27.380 But don't we all have it? 1.00

04:12:28.700 No.

04:12:29.140 No.

04:12:29.200 Don't you, with a debate?

04:12:31.920 I specifically make sure that I don't give advice.

04:12:35.660 So I always tell my audience, I'm not your guru.

04:12:38.200 Oh, yeah.

04:12:38.920 I'm not here to give advice.

04:12:39.620 I'm an entertainer.

04:12:41.020 Yeah.

04:12:41.480 Yeah.

04:12:41.860 Yeah.

04:12:42.360 And you're really good at it.

04:12:44.360 I try...

04:12:45.640 I mean, there's advice that I'll give, but mostly it's like you are trying to get the

04:12:49.320 person to figure out what it is that they want and go after it.

04:12:52.160 So, but I mean, I'm sure if someone came up to you and actually asked for advice, you'd

04:12:55.160 be able to give it.

04:12:56.040 I don't.

04:12:56.820 No?

04:12:57.020 And here's why.

04:12:57.880 So from my perspective...

04:12:59.940 Yeah. 0.95

04:13:00.680 You don't want to fuck up their life.

04:13:02.640 Exactly.

04:13:04.060 Well, it's not just they don't want to fuck up their life, but I think that unless you

04:13:08.480 intricately know a person's situation from the inside out, and it takes a long time to

04:13:13.120 do that.

04:13:13.700 Yes.

04:13:14.060 To really get to know a person, that any advice you give them is...

04:13:19.320 ...is likely going to be bad unless it's basic.

04:13:21.900 Yeah.

04:13:22.060 So here's what I mean by that, right?

04:13:23.400 Like, don't stick your face in that fryer.

04:13:26.420 That's pretty basic advice I think anybody can give, and it would probably be pretty good,

04:13:30.500 right?

04:13:30.880 Right.

04:13:31.240 The type of woman you want is X? 1.00

04:13:33.540 Way different.

04:13:35.020 Yes.

04:13:36.020 Right?

04:13:36.360 Way different.

04:13:36.380 But I won't do that.

04:13:37.420 I'll have them write that out, and then I can at least tell them why they're not maybe

04:13:41.860 getting that.

04:13:42.500 But usually with decision making, no.

04:13:45.640 They can write it out.

04:13:47.500 You can figure out how to go after what you want.

04:13:51.200 I'm just there as also someone to take accountability or help you with accountability, too, to get

04:13:56.060 it.

04:13:56.420 Yeah.

04:13:57.180 But like...

04:13:57.920 I think there'd be a better way of saying it.

04:13:59.240 Accountability.

04:14:00.240 Yeah.

04:14:00.540 I get that.

04:14:01.460 But the hypnotherapy thing, do you actually engage in that?

04:14:05.020 No, not really.

04:14:05.880 There's only like...

04:14:06.500 What does that mean, though?

04:14:07.320 See that caveat?

04:14:08.280 You're like, not really.

04:14:10.500 Because I guess...

04:14:11.180 So there's this that would be, I guess, considered under the umbrella.

04:14:15.600 Let's say someone has a really big insecurity.

04:14:19.520 They feel like they're not good enough.

04:14:21.640 And so they're not going after the woman that they really want.

04:14:24.300 Or they're not going after their...

04:14:25.380 You give affirmations, don't you?

04:14:26.900 Yeah.

04:14:27.140 There's affirmations.

04:14:28.120 So yeah, exactly.

04:14:29.360 Where you can just kind of overcome that.

04:14:30.880 So that'd be under the umbrella.

04:14:31.680 Do you ever tell them to go to church?

04:14:33.060 If they want to.

04:14:34.280 Yeah.

04:14:34.980 But like...

04:14:36.860 I have clients that you can...

04:14:38.420 I could tell.

04:14:39.080 Like, they're spiritual and they want that.

04:14:41.020 And I would say, like, try different things.

04:14:43.340 Or like, what are your hobbies?

04:14:44.400 What are the things that really light you up?

04:14:45.820 And they'll reveal it.

04:14:46.980 They'll be the ones that say, I used to do this.

04:14:49.100 I'm kind of feeling like I'm disconnected.

04:14:51.020 So I get to tell them, like, look, if that's what you're really wanting, what are you doing?

04:14:55.280 What's stopping you?

04:14:56.640 Why aren't you going?

04:14:57.700 So then you try to give them like a gentle push if they kind of reveal that.

04:15:00.620 Yeah.

04:15:00.980 I feel like most people with church art don't want it until they actually open up to it.

04:15:06.180 Yeah.

04:15:08.140 What is that?

04:15:13.520 It's amazing.

04:15:14.980 Round of applause, ladies.

04:15:16.660 Yeah.

04:15:21.480 This is for Jungle.

04:15:22.900 Yeah.

04:15:26.820 That is amazing.

04:15:28.900 Brian, Brian.

04:15:30.980 That's a good song.

04:15:33.260 That's some intensity for a burrito.

04:15:34.100 Is it going to be a delicious burrito?

04:15:36.920 Is that big, fat burrito you're about to stick in your mouth, Brian?

04:15:40.880 Oh, man.

04:15:42.900 What's happening?

04:15:46.880 With the hat on, bro.

04:15:48.300 Twirl it.

04:15:48.980 Twirl it.

04:15:49.380 Honestly, Brian, like, the points are just going through the roof, I feel like.

04:15:54.500 We got the dunce cap with the burrito.

04:15:56.160 This is the perfect.

04:15:57.140 I love this. 1.00

04:15:58.540 This is payback for that fucking pineapple pizza, you piece of shit. 1.00

04:16:02.280 He made you eat pineapple pizza? 1.00

04:16:03.800 It is payback.

04:16:04.400 It is payback.

04:16:05.200 Yeah, it is payback.

04:16:06.160 You got me there.

04:16:07.520 I don't know what else.

04:16:08.320 Remember that time you tried to keep me from In-N-Out?

04:16:09.940 I got the In-N-Out, Brian. 0.99

04:16:11.280 I got the fucking In-N-Out, and I posted it. 0.99

04:16:13.840 Did you enjoy the In-N-Out? 0.99

04:16:15.500 Yeah.

04:16:15.920 It was so good.

04:16:16.660 Exactly.

04:16:17.420 Why would someone deny you In-N-Out? 1.00

04:16:19.500 Because he's a fuckhead. 1.00

04:16:20.780 Sometimes Brian's a fucking dick. 1.00

04:16:22.640 Was he trying to help you? 1.00

04:16:23.900 No.

04:16:24.420 No, no, no, no. 1.00

04:16:25.020 He was just fucking with me because it was funny. 0.99

04:16:28.420 And it was funny. 0.99

04:16:29.220 Look, it was funny.

04:16:30.560 Okay.

04:16:31.000 Look at that.

04:16:31.560 Ah, ah.

04:16:32.560 Ah.

04:16:33.380 There we go, Brian.

04:16:34.240 And he made eye contact.

04:16:35.000 How's that make you feel, Brian?

04:16:36.780 I got my...

04:16:37.600 Yeah.

04:16:37.760 I feel great.

04:16:38.800 Yeah. 0.96

04:16:39.180 Actually, that does look really fucking good. 0.83

04:16:40.760 I feel great. 0.95

04:16:41.220 I'm not going to lie.

04:16:41.520 It looks pretty good.

04:16:43.160 Yeah.

04:16:43.720 It looks good.

04:16:45.940 I'll eat like a third of it.

04:16:47.220 I can't eat all of it.

04:16:48.560 I can't eat all of it.

04:16:49.900 Is there...

04:16:51.160 Is it on the inside?

04:16:52.280 Would I be able to...

04:16:53.180 If you don't finish it?

04:16:54.560 Whoa.

04:16:55.280 Oh, you think you're having some of this?

04:16:58.100 You think you're going to have some of my...

04:17:00.240 Burrito.

04:17:01.400 I mean...

04:17:02.160 I'll bow for it.

04:17:04.020 Let's see it.

04:17:04.760 Let's see it.

04:17:05.240 Let's see it.

04:17:05.680 No, no, no.

04:17:06.060 Hold on.

04:17:06.480 I don't agree.

04:17:07.560 I don't agree.

04:17:08.100 I know.

04:17:08.660 I'm not going to go eat and agree.

04:17:11.880 He's like, no, I didn't agree to this.

04:17:13.800 I'm just saying.

04:17:14.380 I'm trying to negotiate a good deal.

04:17:15.680 Okay?

04:17:16.100 I'm trying to negotiate a good deal.

04:17:17.680 It does look like she could probably have a lot of that burrito, though.

04:17:21.260 Because she's not having pizza.

04:17:22.860 Just saying.

04:17:23.720 Empathy.

04:17:24.520 Look, there's a lot of gluten in this burrito. 0.98

04:17:26.720 There's rice.

04:17:27.400 There's the tortilla.

04:17:28.040 Rice is gluten-free.

04:17:29.240 Is that gluten?

04:17:29.800 Okay, there's the tortilla.

04:17:30.980 Yeah, but I think...

04:17:31.960 She eats around the tortilla.

04:17:34.120 She eats around the tortilla.

04:17:34.880 Bro, it's a burrito.

04:17:35.740 How do you eat around the tortilla?

04:17:37.180 You open it up.

04:17:38.400 You open the tortilla.

04:17:39.280 That's a perfectly good waste of a burrito.

04:17:42.240 I think so.

04:17:43.400 How could you ever...

04:17:44.180 That's blasphemy, Andrew.

04:17:46.120 Listen, I agree that it's borderline satanic to open a burrito.

04:17:51.400 It is.

04:17:51.820 I agree with that, too. 0.98

04:17:52.580 She might be the devil. 1.00

04:17:54.140 Yes. 0.97

04:17:54.620 I also agree with that, too.

04:17:55.800 Oh, my God.

04:17:56.140 There's going to be people listening who actually believe that. 0.96

04:17:59.160 You're hypnotizing people, you devil?

04:18:01.800 She's like... 0.86

04:18:03.620 You did add guacamole.

04:18:07.640 Mm.

04:18:08.180 Yes.

04:18:08.660 Oh.

04:18:08.960 Where's the steak, Brian?

04:18:11.740 It's chicken. 1.00

04:18:13.320 The fuck? 1.00

04:18:14.020 You got a chicken burrito? 1.00

04:18:15.260 Who gets a fucking steak burrito? 1.00

04:18:16.520 Everybody who's a man gets a steak burrito. 1.00

04:18:19.020 I mean, shredded beef burrito.

04:18:20.420 No, steak.

04:18:21.620 Oh, my God.

04:18:22.340 Yeah, straight steak.

04:18:23.720 It's got to be from a good place. 0.99

04:18:25.180 Who the fuck doesn't like steak? 0.99

04:18:26.480 Yeah. 1.00

04:18:26.760 Look, you out there in the whatever... 0.98

04:18:28.300 Can you fucking tell, Brian, the steak burrito is the way? 0.99

04:18:32.720 That's the way. 1.00

04:18:33.540 Chicken fucking burrito? 1.00

04:18:35.740 It's a steak bet. 1.00

04:18:36.740 You can stuff that thing with anything.

04:18:39.060 You put chicken...

04:18:39.440 I'll go get a steak burrito.

04:18:42.880 Does another burrito pop, and then I'll have the steak burrito.

04:18:45.680 There we go.

04:18:48.160 Fair.

04:18:49.280 Can we...

04:18:50.160 Where's Felicity? 0.63

04:18:52.380 Can you collect...

04:18:53.780 Are you guys all done with the food?

04:18:55.000 Maybe all done?

04:18:56.560 I apologize.

04:18:57.340 They put way too much sauce.

04:18:58.940 They put way too much sauce on the sauce.

04:19:02.940 You can just pass down the...

04:19:03.940 Oh, it looks like it.

04:19:04.860 But he didn't get gluten-free.

04:19:07.380 Look, it's the woman goes back into her native habitat and grabs the plates. 1.00

04:19:13.140 Let's all watch as she... 1.00

04:19:15.540 She's bringing them over to clean up the...

04:19:17.660 That's funny.

04:19:18.860 Yeah, you...

04:19:19.480 That's funny.

04:19:21.640 Let's watch her in her habitat. 0.99

04:19:24.720 Blimey, I can't believe she did it.

04:19:27.280 These little critters can be really tricky sometimes.

04:19:30.920 Don't...

04:19:31.620 Don't make eye contact.

04:19:33.380 She might slam the plates. 1.00

04:19:34.540 You know, you ruined it.

04:19:37.600 I did.

04:19:37.860 It was a perfectly good joke.

04:19:38.860 It was great.

04:19:39.660 And I just... 0.99

04:19:40.040 You just fucked it all up. 1.00

04:19:41.260 I fucking did. 1.00

04:19:41.980 I felt it too. 1.00

04:19:43.000 I actually felt it.

04:19:43.700 I have it on good authority.

04:19:44.820 There's an Australian right now. 0.98

04:19:46.360 Literally, the prince of Australia, who is watching this right now, who is so fucking disappointed 0.95

04:19:53.420 with it. 0.96

04:19:53.720 Yeah.

04:19:54.260 I disappointed him.

04:19:55.320 And I own it.

04:19:56.320 I own my mistakes.

04:19:56.980 I actually have this on 100% good authority.

04:19:59.360 There actually is the prince of Australia.

04:20:01.220 Not kidding.

04:20:01.860 I believe you.

04:20:02.540 Watching this.

04:20:03.420 Yeah.

04:20:03.820 And he is disappointed.

04:20:04.940 Yeah.

04:20:05.120 Now, the true king of Australia, his name, he has an Italian name.

04:20:08.320 He's super weird.

04:20:09.080 Vinny.

04:20:10.120 But...

04:20:10.560 Hey, Vinny.

04:20:11.720 I'm pretty confident he's watching, too.

04:20:13.880 The true king of Australia.

04:20:14.940 And I'm just telling you, you ruined the whole joke.

04:20:17.680 I did. 0.99

04:20:17.880 You fucked it all up. 0.98

04:20:18.800 I did. 0.99

04:20:19.340 Everything was perfect. 0.99

04:20:20.320 You fucked it up. 0.84

04:20:20.560 I hope I get redemption later. 0.99

04:20:22.120 But I don't think I'm going through.

04:20:23.760 Brian, give him the dunce cap.

04:20:25.080 Take the dunce cap off.

04:20:26.120 No!

04:20:26.240 No, you got to get the dunce cap for that. 1.00

04:20:28.860 So ridiculous. 0.99

04:20:30.460 It was too quick. 0.96

04:20:31.900 Yeah.

04:20:32.400 Yeah.

04:20:32.600 There you go.

04:20:33.700 Pass it down.

04:20:35.100 Put it on.

04:20:36.940 See it?

04:20:37.640 You got to twirl the propeller.

04:20:39.820 Oh, yeah.

04:20:41.020 There you go.

04:20:41.980 There we go.

04:20:42.700 Hey! 0.99

04:20:43.160 I got it going.

04:20:45.300 All right.

04:20:45.880 Cool.

04:20:46.120 In the natural habitat.

04:20:48.960 That's good.

04:20:49.540 It's a good look.

04:20:50.160 That's good luck.

04:20:50.880 Good look for you.

04:20:52.040 All right.

04:20:53.400 Hopefully, we'll get to that.

04:20:55.000 There's a bunch of chats that have come through.

04:20:56.760 We'll get through the chats, and I promise we'll get to the show.

04:20:59.820 So, and we do have ice cream, too, for that ice cream pop.

04:21:04.760 What kind of ice cream?

04:21:06.540 There's more?

04:21:07.240 Pasty, where are you, bro? 0.52

04:21:08.880 Pasty.

04:21:09.200 Oh, wait. 0.98

04:21:09.860 Pasty, this freaking legend. 0.98

04:21:12.380 Did he do it? 0.99

04:21:13.060 This legend.

04:21:14.000 He did it?

04:21:14.620 Did he do it?

04:21:15.580 You know what?

04:21:16.160 He did it?

04:21:16.600 I had my doubts.

04:21:17.480 He did it?

04:21:18.680 I had my doubts.

04:21:20.000 All right.

04:21:20.480 Pasty, are we doing a cheers to Pasty?

04:21:21.920 He is a man of his word.

04:21:23.560 He is a true gentleman and a scholar.

04:21:26.300 Pasty, please. 0.99

04:21:26.780 No shit. 1.00

04:21:29.160 Wow. 1.00

04:21:30.060 Pasty, George donated $1,000.

04:21:32.240 Only for us.

04:21:33.340 Pop champagne.

04:21:34.080 Oh, my God.

04:21:34.920 This is only for Andrew.

04:21:36.220 Only for the...

04:21:37.480 Andrew and Brian.

04:21:39.140 You're not worth it.

04:21:39.920 Thank you very much.

04:21:40.760 Hello, Elton Andrew.

04:21:42.420 Get your favorite alcoholic drink and enjoy it.

04:21:45.100 Yes, I would like to do that.

04:21:46.400 Okay, we'll do that.

04:21:47.600 I'll get that going.

04:21:49.960 Can you...

04:21:50.680 Do you have your phone on you?

04:21:51.640 Can you text me what it is?

04:21:53.440 Of course.

04:21:53.800 And then I'll send it to Mary.

04:21:55.420 Oh, wow.

04:21:55.740 We have Barry here.

04:21:57.280 Yo, Pasty, you're a legend.

04:21:58.600 Thank you, Barry.

04:21:59.280 Thank you for the...

04:22:00.020 You bought a t-shirt, it looks like, on shop.whatever.com.

04:22:04.580 And then somebody else...

04:22:06.600 No name, but items three.

04:22:08.420 So it looks like you bought like three t-shirts.

04:22:10.660 Thank you so much, man.

04:22:11.340 Real quick.

04:22:11.380 Can you ask our OBS gal over here? 1.00

04:22:14.100 There's the box of those things that's like right there in the fridge.

04:22:17.380 He could just snap a pic and send it to you.

04:22:21.120 Yeah.

04:22:21.860 Yeah, I'll go real quick.

04:22:23.740 I'll tell her where they get it.

04:22:26.000 Hold on here.

04:22:26.880 Real quick.

04:22:27.520 Andrew, I'm going to have two chats come through.

04:22:29.640 Let them go.

04:22:30.220 Can I have you read them?

04:22:31.300 Gotcha.

04:22:34.040 Curtis Leon donates $100 of Brian.

04:22:36.280 Great job on your decade-long weight loss journey has not taken.

04:22:40.720 It appears that you have gone down in weight from Jabba the Hutt to Pizza the Hutt.

04:22:47.500 Lafla may... 1.00

04:22:49.280 Might give you a chance.

04:22:50.580 No, no, no, no.

04:22:53.040 Jungle F for a big $1,000.

04:22:55.040 Jungle F. 0.69

04:22:55.860 Pop of champagne. 0.99

04:22:57.540 Holy crap. 0.98

04:22:58.140 Pop champagne. 0.99

04:22:59.680 Chicken is for chicks. 0.58

04:23:01.440 Steak is the only way.

04:23:03.240 Andrew deserves a smoke in the studio.

04:23:06.040 We hereby declare your DM should be there now in the personal.

04:23:10.780 Okay.

04:23:11.380 So real quick, Brian.

04:23:12.800 It was the drinks that I just had.

04:23:15.020 You can just check the cans in the trash maybe.

04:23:16.980 They're like the little purple cans.

04:23:19.860 They're the vodka soda mixers.

04:23:23.220 Okay. 1.00

04:23:23.780 So I do deserve a smoke in the studio, but Brian's obviously being a little fucking bitch and there's 1.00

04:23:29.520 no possible way that he's going to allow that because you know what I mean? 0.99

04:23:33.840 So maybe we can compromise somewhere else, Jungle. 0.71

04:23:36.960 I don't know.

04:23:37.800 Maybe we can compromise some other way.

04:23:40.380 I have no clue.

04:23:41.340 Film him smoking outside.

04:23:42.680 He's really butthurt.

04:23:43.880 You won't let me smoke in the studio at least one cigarette. 0.95

04:23:46.600 Jungle's mad.

04:23:47.820 Here's what I'm willing to do when I'm moving out of this place. 1.00

04:23:53.320 What a fuck, dude. 1.00

04:23:56.260 Bro, I can't get evicted. 1.00

04:23:58.560 I can't get evicted, Andrew.

04:23:59.620 That's fair.

04:24:00.140 That's fair.

04:24:01.320 Not all of us are homesteading with like hundreds of guns on our expansive Michigan luxury mansions.

04:24:13.900 But some of us are in like a small farmhouse like myself and do have that.

04:24:19.820 No, I know.

04:24:20.280 And I'm happy with it.

04:24:21.620 That's good.

04:24:22.460 Yeah.

04:24:23.360 Yeah.

04:24:23.840 All right.

04:24:24.860 Curtis, I saw your message, by the way.

04:24:26.680 I like it.

04:24:27.760 Thank you for the well wishes.

04:24:29.300 She likes it.

04:24:30.020 She likes the dunce cap.

04:24:31.260 I love it.

04:24:32.060 It looks good, honestly.

04:24:33.680 It has a well-toothed head.

04:24:35.460 It brings out the blue of your eyes.

04:24:36.300 It brings out the intelligence in your eyes.

04:24:38.100 Right?

04:24:38.440 Thank you.

04:24:39.040 I was waiting.

04:24:40.300 This is the first hat that's ever fit me.

04:24:43.040 Uptown, it looks like you bought a, maybe a big labia matter.

04:24:47.440 You bought a hoodie on our shop.

04:24:49.360 Man, they are buying up the merch tonight, Brian.

04:24:50.860 It's crazy.

04:24:51.640 They're buying it up.

04:24:52.620 I want a hoodie.

04:24:54.020 Can we get a t-shirt over there? 0.84

04:24:57.100 The big labia one.

04:24:57.820 We've got to have the dishwasher, you know, squid shirt going.

04:25:03.400 Octopus.

04:25:04.020 Octopus.

04:25:04.820 The dishwasher octopus.

04:25:05.500 Was Jungle, that last pop he did, was he saying I have to go get a steak burrito now?

04:25:11.340 No.

04:25:12.420 No. 1.00

04:25:12.780 He was saying that steak, that chicken burritos are for bitches. 1.00

04:25:15.780 Chicks. 1.00

04:25:16.020 And that steak burritos. 1.00

04:25:16.920 Well, I'm going to say bitches. 1.00

04:25:18.040 Well, no. 0.99

04:25:19.140 That's what he meant.

04:25:19.860 That's what he meant.

04:25:20.360 But chicken for chicks sounded really good.

04:25:21.960 You sent one in, so tell me what you, what you want instead of, I'll go, I'll get

04:25:26.320 a second burrito.

04:25:28.860 By the way, you don't have to send, don't send, you don't have to send in a thousand.

04:25:31.720 Just send in a ten to clarify.

04:25:33.460 Nah.

04:25:33.580 Support Brian Dwight lost her in a thousand.

04:25:35.540 Pasty George.

04:25:38.140 Thank you. 0.99

04:25:38.300 The pizza looked cheap and ass. 0.99

04:25:40.160 Dude. 1.00

04:25:40.720 Actually.

04:25:41.000 It was pretty good.

04:25:41.680 It was pretty good.

04:25:42.380 Well, here's what happened.

04:25:43.220 So I asked for a bit light on the cheese and extra sauce.

04:25:46.780 And they took that to mean no cheese and a fuck ton of red sauce.

04:25:52.780 It was a saucy pizza. 0.97

04:25:53.280 It was way too saucy.

04:25:54.740 I apologize for that.

04:25:56.260 I thought it was fine.

04:25:56.580 It looked all right.

04:25:57.260 Yeah.

04:25:57.400 I feel like that's a little more Italian style.

04:25:59.640 You got a lot of sauce on them.

04:26:00.240 Dude, everybody is losing their mind over this burrito thing.

04:26:02.640 Look.

04:26:02.660 Steak burritos are superior. 0.99

04:26:04.460 They're fucking superior. 0.99

04:26:05.760 Steak-like carne asada? 0.99

04:26:06.800 Pasty, we're getting to it in just a moment.

04:26:09.040 I feel like it depends on the steak where you're getting it from.

04:26:11.380 Even my wife eats the steak burrito, Brian. 0.78

04:26:13.300 Even my wife eats the steak fajita and the steak burrito. 1.00

04:26:15.920 Or even she loves chicken, and she still eats the steak burrito.

04:26:20.800 I don't know what to talk about. 0.99

04:26:23.160 Who the fuck eats a chicken burrito? 0.99

04:26:25.400 All right. 1.00

04:26:25.680 My pronouns are she, her.

04:26:27.040 El pastor.

04:26:27.780 My pronouns are she, her.

04:26:30.840 I know.

04:26:32.640 My man card's been revoked because of my burrito preferences.

04:26:37.800 Ash.

04:26:38.100 Oh, yeah.

04:26:38.480 We'll do this, Ashley, in just a moment.

04:26:39.840 Are we reading?

04:26:40.440 Michael G.

04:26:41.180 Chair two.

04:26:42.420 What's in the trinity?

04:26:44.200 These are below the threshold.

04:26:45.340 Just FYI, guys, we're pulling them up.

04:26:47.360 Oh, wait.

04:26:48.400 Someone asked me if I slept with a client. 0.87

04:26:50.620 Have you?

04:26:51.480 No.

04:26:52.420 She's a chef. 1.00

04:26:53.080 No.

04:26:53.460 Have you thought about it?

04:26:54.380 It's good pizza. 0.99

04:26:55.040 They fucked it up. 0.97

04:26:56.460 In the beginning, there was a couple. 0.98

04:26:58.200 Because people are surprised. 0.95

04:26:59.880 People think that, oh, only ugly dudes will go get help. 1.00

04:27:02.860 I have some.

04:27:04.220 Because I do career coaching, too.

04:27:05.460 So, I'll have some clients that are, like, gorgeous, you know, very good looking, well

04:27:10.900 to do.

04:27:12.020 But once you start, like, talking about, you know, your family life and your problems and

04:27:16.200 everything, and I'm just there.

04:27:17.380 Like, I turned to, like, a mom.

04:27:17.980 Isn't that like a first date?

04:27:19.200 Oh, yeah.

04:27:19.520 True.

04:27:20.200 Right?

04:27:21.840 Yeah.

04:27:22.300 Yeah.

04:27:22.520 Good point.

04:27:23.140 Isn't that, like, just a first date?

04:27:24.520 Yeah.

04:27:25.340 No, it's never, never.

04:27:27.300 I have a quick question, Andrew.

04:27:28.740 This goes way back into earlier in the podcast when you had mentioned that men do actually

04:27:33.900 better interpersonally, and they have really close relationships with other men and things

04:27:37.460 like that.

04:27:37.840 So, why is it when it comes to women in a relationship, they automatically go, nope, 1.00

04:27:42.160 and let me find somebody else?

04:27:43.280 But with other men, you said, questionably, even with close friendships, it could be a little

04:27:48.720 bit harder to keep those, like, they have to work a little bit harder for those relationships. 0.98

04:27:52.400 I'm sorry.

04:27:52.820 I'm trying to make sure I, I understand what you're saying.

04:27:58.440 Okay.

04:27:58.980 Wait.

04:27:59.180 So, if you're fine with this, Andrew, can you hold that question for later on in the

04:28:04.580 show just so we can move things along just a little bit?

04:28:06.700 Oh, yeah.

04:28:07.000 A hundred percent.

04:28:07.640 But I'm happy to have you ask the question a bit later.

04:28:10.160 Guys, really quick, go to Twitch on TV slash whatever.

04:28:12.180 Guys, it's been 33 minutes since we last got a Prime.

04:28:14.480 I think it's bugged, boys.

04:28:15.840 33 minutes, Brian.

04:28:17.500 I know.

04:28:17.960 That's insane.

04:28:18.920 Check if you have a Prime sub available.

04:28:20.680 Check if you have a Prime sub.

04:28:21.920 So, that's Twitch.tv slash.

04:28:24.040 You guys have, like, the best chorus singing voices ever.

04:28:27.140 Oh, no.

04:28:27.580 Let's just try this.

04:28:28.660 Can we just, hang on.

04:28:29.960 Can we just get this?

04:28:30.660 Sir.

04:28:30.840 Can we just get this?

04:28:32.140 It's, ma'am.

04:28:33.400 Can we just get this?

04:28:34.680 Can we just get this, madam?

04:28:36.680 Can we just say, Prime sub.

04:28:40.920 Okay.

04:28:41.080 Let's try it.

04:28:41.720 Ready?

04:28:42.320 On three.

04:28:43.160 I got this.

04:28:43.780 We got, you got this.

04:28:45.500 You're a good singer.

04:28:46.480 I am.

04:28:46.940 On three.

04:28:47.420 One, two, three.

04:28:53.000 Prime sub.

04:28:57.460 God.

04:28:59.460 Wait, it came together?

04:29:01.740 I'm a little surprised on that one.

04:29:05.200 I did what I could do, right?

04:29:07.200 Yeah.

04:29:07.620 I did what I could do.

04:29:09.560 It was good.

04:29:10.220 It was good.

04:29:11.220 It doesn't cost anything to Prime sub.

04:29:13.740 And you guys know you enjoy the show.

04:29:15.300 So, just Prime sub.

04:29:16.600 By the way, everybody out there watching right now like this video.

04:29:19.800 It helps boost it in the YouTube algorithm.

04:29:22.020 Especially as live viewership is popping off.

04:29:25.540 Really appreciate that from everybody.

04:29:27.680 Appreciate you guys.

04:29:28.840 Especially Jungle F. 0.97

04:29:29.900 We did try to do the Prime sub.

04:29:32.360 I don't know.

04:29:32.860 I think you should make that like part of your soundboard now.

04:29:35.460 Prime sub.

04:29:35.860 I could.

04:29:36.840 I could definitely.

04:29:37.380 That's kind of cool.

04:29:38.960 There we go.

04:29:40.700 This is for pasty, right?

04:29:42.420 Yes.

04:29:42.680 The preferred drink, vodka soda.

04:29:45.640 We have two.

04:29:46.220 She loves those.

04:29:47.580 Well, it was just for you two.

04:29:50.500 Shall we crack at the same time?

04:29:51.460 Did he give you guys the pop, though?

04:29:53.000 Three.

04:29:54.400 Yeah, he bought it.

04:29:55.140 I should have done it.

04:29:55.900 He bought it.

04:29:56.620 I'm just trying to.

04:29:57.240 I know, right?

04:29:58.100 Too pasty.

04:29:58.520 Yeah, down the hatch.

04:30:00.120 Oh, no, I can't do that.

04:30:01.720 Bro.

04:30:02.300 Dude, I don't drink.

04:30:03.240 I don't drink like that.

04:30:04.180 We're going to try this.

04:30:05.080 We're going to try it.

04:30:05.580 I'll drink as much as I can.

04:30:06.680 Okay, one, two. 1.00

04:30:08.360 Oh, what the fuck? 1.00

04:30:09.400 Oh. 1.00

04:30:09.940 What the fuck? 1.00

04:30:10.920 I already started. 1.00

04:30:12.080 What the fuck? 0.99

04:30:12.640 I didn't know you were going to do a countdown. 1.00

04:30:14.580 We're going to do a countdown.

04:30:15.380 Okay.

04:30:15.600 One.

04:30:15.800 All right.

04:30:16.320 Three, two.

04:30:17.800 Wait.

04:30:19.080 Okay, three, two, one.

04:30:21.700 Go.

04:30:25.080 Are they tugging?

04:30:25.920 Are they tugging?

04:30:26.000 With passion fruit, vodka, and pineapple.

04:30:27.980 At your nearest.

04:30:28.800 No, I'm just kidding.

04:30:30.260 Please drink your June shine.

04:30:32.680 You're manly.

04:30:34.060 I'll drink the rest of it.

04:30:35.300 Thank you.

04:30:35.840 Pasty.

04:30:37.480 Cheers to you.

04:30:38.380 Thank you, man.

04:30:38.880 You're a legend.

04:30:39.580 In your purple can.

04:30:39.960 Passion fruit, vodka, soda.

04:30:41.580 But they wanted some.

04:30:43.180 Can they have one?

04:30:44.400 Wait for Pasty. 0.90

04:30:45.740 We've got to be considerate to the.

04:30:47.340 Pasty said it was just.

04:30:49.200 But there's four in the pack, right?

04:30:51.120 We're just going to have to drink three each.

04:30:55.200 Wait.

04:30:55.880 Three.

04:30:56.160 Four.

04:30:57.140 Oh, my God.

04:30:58.500 Bro.

04:31:02.100 Okay.

04:31:02.880 Nobody's leaving here tonight.

04:31:04.320 It's okay.

04:31:05.680 This is just not going to happen.

04:31:07.380 This is great.

04:31:08.260 24 hour.

04:31:09.060 24 hour stream.

04:31:10.120 We'll just get a bunch of food.

04:31:11.060 I don't know what I expected tonight.

04:31:12.860 But it wasn't this.

04:31:13.560 And this is great.

04:31:14.720 These volumes of the panel.

04:31:16.520 I think they're trying to keep us here.

04:31:18.180 Yeah, I know.

04:31:18.840 I'm great. 1.00

04:31:19.340 And you all suck. 1.00

04:31:20.660 But I'm great. 1.00

04:31:21.800 But they're here for you.

04:31:24.200 Thank you guys over there on Twitch.

04:31:26.140 We have Jungle here.

04:31:27.560 They did the. 1.00

04:31:28.480 Why did you give like the bullshit. 0.99

04:31:31.380 They did the fine stuff pretty good. 1.00

04:31:33.540 It was okay.

04:31:35.200 Jungle donated $1,000.

04:31:37.560 I don't know.

04:31:38.260 Pop champagne.

04:31:39.840 Chair three.

04:31:40.360 We have different tasting vocals.

04:31:42.900 Wait.

04:31:43.460 Chair three needs that. 1.00

04:31:47.620 Oh, damn. 0.99

04:31:48.960 Bro, I was hoping. 1.00

04:31:49.820 He was like, get the fucking steak. 1.00

04:31:51.240 Have a nice steak. 1.00

04:31:52.600 Thank you, man. 1.00

04:31:53.860 You're a fucking legend. 0.99

04:31:55.600 Cheers to you, Jungle F. 1.00

04:31:56.980 Of course, always cheers.

04:31:58.220 I'm going to pour one out for my homie Jungle F. 1.00

04:32:00.560 Into my drink.

04:32:01.820 I poured out some liquor.

04:32:03.740 And cheers to the Crucible crew.

04:32:05.580 Thank you, Jungle F, for coming through big tonight.

04:32:07.840 Really appreciate that very much.

04:32:09.540 I think around $8,000 from Jungle.

04:32:12.920 Who is this guy?

04:32:14.100 None of your business.

04:32:15.040 Hey.

04:32:16.000 He's my Caucasian now. 0.71

04:32:18.060 Boy, I mean, he has to be after that.

04:32:19.560 Is he white? 0.71

04:32:21.600 Do you really think a black man could have that? 1.00

04:32:24.440 No, I'm kidding. 0.97

04:32:25.180 I'm kidding.

04:32:25.600 Andrew.

04:32:26.780 Hey.

04:32:29.520 What did he say?

04:32:31.520 What did he say?

04:32:33.200 Say what?

04:32:34.160 What?

04:32:34.560 What?

04:32:35.040 What? 0.99

04:32:37.940 Listen, the two black lesbian women at this table will not stand for this. 1.00

04:32:41.940 No. 1.00

04:32:42.340 I've been drinking.

04:32:43.360 I've got to go have a smoke.

04:32:44.100 I've been drinking.

04:32:45.160 It's not my fault.

04:32:45.780 It's not my fault.

04:32:45.800 It's not my fault.

04:32:46.500 It's not my fault.

04:32:46.780 It's not my fault.

04:32:47.060 It's not my fault.

04:32:47.360 I feel like we need a purple can for that.

04:32:50.200 I think Andrew should advocate for them.

04:32:51.860 That's the lead.

04:32:52.480 Andrew should advocate.

04:32:53.500 Yeah, yeah.

04:32:53.880 All right.

04:32:54.080 Although, baby girl is underage, though.

04:32:56.040 Okay.

04:32:56.360 Never mind.

04:32:56.640 What do we have to do?

04:32:58.300 I have to protect you.

04:32:59.080 I'm sorry.

04:33:00.040 Okay.

04:33:00.940 I'm trying to remember.

04:33:01.720 Oh, you know what?

04:33:02.440 Here.

04:33:02.680 Let's do some show notes.

04:33:04.060 We've got to do the questionnaire.

04:33:05.160 We've got a bunch to get through.

04:33:06.200 I'll try to do it quick.

04:33:07.720 It's just been a pretty wild night here.

04:33:10.160 Getting through to the rest of the notes, we're going back to Natalie.

04:33:15.980 Natalie.

04:33:16.580 Yes. 0.96

04:33:16.840 You said you had a first date take you to a sex shop. 0.84

04:33:20.040 I did. 0.77

04:33:20.440 And he was also high on...

04:33:22.440 Cocaine.

04:33:23.200 Cocaine.

04:33:23.840 Yes.

04:33:26.000 What's that song by Lit?

04:33:30.440 I'm on a plane.

04:33:32.160 You know that song?

04:33:32.980 I haven't heard it well.

04:33:34.100 No.

04:33:34.440 I think we need to hear it.

04:33:35.420 I'm not going to sing it.

04:33:36.160 Never mind.

04:33:36.240 No.

04:33:36.560 You're doing great.

04:33:38.140 It's doing good.

04:33:38.520 It's like...

04:33:38.760 Go for it one time.

04:33:39.560 I'm on a plane on cocaine and I don't know how I am.

04:33:45.000 That.

04:33:45.500 Yeah.

04:33:45.780 That thing.

04:33:46.100 I don't know.

04:33:46.580 I don't know.

04:33:47.060 Lit.

04:33:47.440 Anyway.

04:33:47.720 Okay.

04:33:47.940 Whatever.

04:33:48.280 Yeah.

04:33:48.400 Were you aware during the date that this was happening or was it later that you were

04:33:51.220 like, wait a second?

04:33:52.040 Yeah.

04:33:52.400 It was kind of all of a sudden I'm realizing that he's talking a lot and his eyes are bulging.

04:33:59.000 And I just was going with the flow.

04:34:00.560 I was like, sure.

04:34:01.540 I was early 20s.

04:34:02.600 Because I wanted to impress him and say yes to whatever.

04:34:06.200 And we wound up at a sex shop.

04:34:08.260 And I don't have anything wrong with that.

04:34:11.740 I think it's great.

04:34:12.360 On a first date, not knowing the person and then watching them high on cocaine was crazy.

04:34:15.820 What?

04:34:16.120 No?

04:34:16.420 You're going to eat pizza?

04:34:17.060 I was responding to that.

04:34:18.840 That's Dorian.

04:34:19.660 That's in there.

04:34:20.220 Dorian with Pacey's either trolling or he's in there.

04:34:21.400 Yo, Christopher Murph, you think for the gifted 20 memberships, you are a legend.

04:34:25.460 Christopher Murph has been all night.

04:34:27.180 Christopher, oh my goodness.

04:34:27.760 Oh my goodness.

04:34:29.520 They are on fire tonight in the chat.

04:34:32.280 Let me play that.

04:34:33.660 Okay.

04:34:34.120 And then you were on a different date with a guy.

04:34:36.140 You really liked him.

04:34:37.060 He drove you up the coast to his favorite restaurant at sunset.

04:34:40.740 Because you said you loved seafood.

04:34:43.500 It was simple, thoughtful, effective.

04:34:50.280 Yes.

04:34:50.820 What sound is he?

04:34:51.500 Yeah.

04:34:51.780 It's going to be like a wah, wah, wah. 0.73

04:34:55.780 I don't know, man.

04:34:56.860 That sounds like a lot of work. 0.99

04:35:02.240 Oh, bitch, all these rules. 1.00

04:35:05.440 Oh, no. 1.00

04:35:05.840 That sounds like a lot.

04:35:07.780 That sounds a lot.

04:35:08.780 Unless that he likes it, too.

04:35:11.000 Like, if he was just doing it, going out of his own way.

04:35:13.520 But, I mean, he liked seafood, too, and it was his favorite spot.

04:35:16.680 It was, like, something that he was already going to in Malibu, you know?

04:35:20.320 It's like a tag-along, kind of.

04:35:22.060 Yeah.

04:35:22.660 There you go.

04:35:23.160 I personally think the best first date is to have the girl come over and do your laundry. 1.00

04:35:29.340 Absolutely.

04:35:29.860 Just ask her and see.

04:35:30.780 And then if she does, you put a ring on it, right?

04:35:32.660 That way you don't have to, like, date her.

04:35:34.440 You could just get married to her.

04:35:35.600 You skip some steps.

04:35:37.240 Yeah.

04:35:37.480 On a first date, would you guys fold to do laundry, starting with you?

04:35:44.800 No?

04:35:45.540 No.

04:35:46.160 You don't do laundry? 0.81

04:35:48.720 For others, no.

04:35:49.980 Into the mic.

04:35:51.120 Into the mic.

04:35:51.540 For others, no.

04:35:53.040 For your perfect guy, would you fold his laundry?

04:35:56.440 No.

04:35:58.080 Why is this perfect guy also always asking me to do weird stuff?

04:36:03.380 She's like, my perfect guy would ask me to do.

04:36:04.860 I love her.

04:36:05.860 Are your parents still together?

04:36:07.760 Yeah.

04:36:08.180 They're married?

04:36:08.860 Yeah.

04:36:10.000 In the household, like, do they both work?

04:36:13.180 Yeah.

04:36:13.840 Or do they both have jobs?

04:36:15.020 Yeah.

04:36:15.260 What does your mom do? 1.00

04:36:16.480 She works at a high school, but not as a teacher.

04:36:20.240 In the office.

04:36:20.760 Administration?

04:36:21.360 Yeah.

04:36:21.700 Okay.

04:36:22.000 And what does your dad do for work?

04:36:23.200 Um, he used to be a high school teacher, but later he became a, like, environmental engineer.

04:36:29.060 I see.

04:36:29.580 Wow.

04:36:29.780 Okay.

04:36:30.560 So you wouldn't do a, what, okay, not on the first date, but, like, you're married to

04:36:35.940 the guy and he was like, hey, I'm going to, I want to marry you, but you have to do all

04:36:41.420 the household, or, no, hold on.

04:36:43.340 You just have to do the laundry, all the laundry in the house.

04:36:47.140 Would you do it?

04:36:49.460 Like, that's, only in this condition will he marry me, or what is this?

04:36:54.760 Sure.

04:36:55.000 Like, forever?

04:36:57.480 Like, I have to do the laundry?

04:36:59.300 Forever.

04:36:59.700 Well, there could be extended circumstances, like, you're injured, you're extraordinarily

04:37:04.700 sick, there's external problems which happen, and so because of those, he does the laundry

04:37:12.680 because you're unavailable to do so, due to no fault of your own, but for the most part,

04:37:17.920 you're doing the laundry.

04:37:19.220 Is he doing the rest of the housework?

04:37:21.200 No.

04:37:22.820 So who does the rest of the housework? 1.00

04:37:24.600 Are we allowed to hire it out?

04:37:26.840 Yeah.

04:37:27.440 And get, like, a maid? 0.71

04:37:28.340 No.

04:37:29.080 No.

04:37:29.460 No?

04:37:30.000 Well, and even if you could, let's just assume it would only be for the means of which you

04:37:34.480 could, and if the means were not there, then you're doing it.

04:37:38.500 Okay, well, I have a good example from my own life, because we kind of...

04:37:41.660 Well, well, well, but hang on.

04:37:42.800 Okay.

04:37:42.960 Let's let her answer first.

04:37:44.220 Okay.

04:37:44.720 Come on.

04:37:45.300 Then no.

04:37:46.280 No.

04:37:47.100 Who wants ice cream, by the way?

04:37:48.400 Show of hands.

04:37:49.060 What kind?

04:37:49.520 It's just vanilla.

04:37:50.900 This is why, you know, hey.

04:37:53.680 What?

04:37:53.860 The Chinese, you know, this is why foreigners come into the United States, they get feminized, 1.00

04:37:59.260 they become feminists, just saying. 1.00

04:38:01.860 They do.

04:38:03.520 She also went to Germany, which is really feminist.

04:38:05.680 Yeah, but, you know, it is.

04:38:07.800 That's true.

04:38:08.440 But, you know, even the United States is pretty bad, too.

04:38:11.660 Yeah, but she just got here, you know. 0.56

04:38:13.480 Got here what?

04:38:14.260 You said two years, right?

04:38:15.600 Nine months ago?

04:38:15.920 No, like last September.

04:38:17.460 Oh, yeah.

04:38:18.040 So Germany feminized her. 0.97

04:38:19.320 Who would have ever thought that Germany would crank out feminists, you know? 1.00

04:38:26.160 Their history is not, it's not really a very feminist history.

04:38:31.320 They went, like, the opposite.

04:38:33.300 Extreme, obviously.

04:38:33.900 Yeah.

04:38:34.200 They kind of went.

04:38:34.920 Yeah.

04:38:35.320 Yeah.

04:38:35.920 It happens.

04:38:36.520 It happens after a world war.

04:38:39.980 Mm-hmm.

04:38:40.740 We have Christopher Murphy here.

04:38:42.500 Hey, is the audio lower?

04:38:43.680 Christopher Murphy.

04:38:44.660 Yeah.

04:38:44.820 When you check the audio, it's way lower.

04:38:46.920 Can we silence chair three for 15 minutes?

04:38:49.260 Is that enough to silence somebody?

04:38:50.460 Was it lower?

04:38:51.720 Oh, that's weird.

04:38:52.760 Can we silence her for 30 minutes?

04:38:54.780 Yeah.

04:38:55.720 So, my understanding with the, it's, you have to do chair three.

04:39:00.260 Oh, you have to do, it's 499 for a 20-minute mute.

04:39:07.740 Mute.

04:39:08.420 Mute.

04:39:08.560 Mic mute.

04:39:10.060 That's the threshold if you want to do it.

04:39:11.160 Five minutes?

04:39:11.900 20 minutes.

04:39:12.360 Five minutes, though, for 200?

04:39:15.300 Yeah.

04:39:15.700 We'll do five minutes.

04:39:16.980 Yeah.

04:39:17.200 Yeah, I'll do five minutes for a 200 if you want to send it.

04:39:19.360 Oh, well.

04:39:20.000 That's fair, I guess.

04:39:20.860 He donated a lot of subs, too.

04:39:22.000 Does he have to send it?

04:39:22.840 Yes.

04:39:23.420 I talked a lot.

04:39:24.340 I'm fine with that.

04:39:25.680 Thank you.

04:39:26.880 We'll compromise.

04:39:27.860 Wait, no, the TTS is 200, so I don't think that's.

04:39:30.960 Oh, yeah, that's true.

04:39:31.800 That's not fair.

04:39:33.620 Send in another 200, and we'll silence our mic for the whole duration.

04:39:36.560 Christopher, if you do another 200, we'll, we'll duration the show?

04:39:39.940 No, no, no, for 15 minutes.

04:39:42.140 The whole duration of what it is.

04:39:43.500 Okay, that's fair.

04:39:44.280 Yeah, that's fair.

04:39:44.820 Send in another one, Christopher.

04:39:47.360 All right.

04:39:48.920 Pasty George, Andrew enjoying his two packets and bypassing the smoke.

04:39:53.640 Thank you, Pasty.

04:39:54.320 I'm trying, man.

04:39:55.220 I'm trying to do what I can do.

04:39:56.340 Guys, if you want to get a message in, read is 100, TTS is 200.

04:39:59.420 Also, if you're enjoying the stream, like the video of ML Cash App, whatever pod, if you

04:40:04.180 want 100% of your contribution, go towards us.

04:40:06.880 Mary, you want another one?

04:40:08.240 No, no, no.

04:40:08.800 Me and you.

04:40:09.360 You got to finish that.

04:40:10.020 Oh, no.

04:40:10.500 I can't.

04:40:11.180 How much is even in there?

04:40:12.380 Oh, my God.

04:40:12.740 You're fine.

04:40:13.720 Come on.

04:40:14.920 A little more.

04:40:15.660 Ready?

04:40:15.960 Give me a new one.

04:40:17.160 What?

04:40:17.800 You touched the lip part.

04:40:19.220 No, I didn't.

04:40:19.740 I touched this part.

04:40:21.220 I'm a germaphobe.

04:40:22.420 I'm sorry.

04:40:22.980 Andrew?

04:40:23.640 It's not.

04:40:24.140 Don't take it.

04:40:24.540 Don't be offended.

04:40:25.620 It's not.

04:40:26.020 If it was anybody sitting there and they touched this part, give me a new one, Mary.

04:40:29.560 Oh, my gosh.

04:40:35.360 It's yours now.

04:40:37.380 Unbelievable.

04:40:38.500 Yeah.

04:40:39.040 Very wild.

04:40:40.440 That's going to get close.

04:40:41.440 Unbelievable.

04:40:42.720 Can y'all clip that, please?

04:40:43.900 You touched.

04:40:44.660 I didn't even touch the lip.

04:40:46.680 Look, Andrew, your hand went like that.

04:40:49.280 Okay, I think I understand now.

04:40:50.160 Oh, my God.

04:40:50.680 You got to grab, Andrew.

04:40:51.940 You got to grab.

04:40:52.980 Look, let me show you the proper, and then the pinky has to be out, okay?

04:40:55.780 You got to leave the pinky out.

04:40:56.460 The pinky out. 0.64

04:40:57.460 When you drink, you got to.

04:40:59.560 Is that good?

04:41:02.580 I love it.

04:41:03.320 Is the pinky out?

04:41:04.100 It's so good.

04:41:05.360 Wait, was I going to do something?

04:41:06.600 I don't know what you were going to do.

04:41:08.600 Remember, I was going to do a voice, but I forgot.

04:41:11.160 Priscilla.

04:41:12.120 Priscilla.

04:41:12.720 Priscilla.

04:41:13.400 Priscilla.

04:41:14.020 Priscilla.

04:41:14.980 I forgot if somebody asked for that.

04:41:16.740 I don't know.

04:41:18.360 All right.

04:41:19.360 All right.

04:41:19.940 Yeah, let's do it.

04:41:20.760 Okay, but, okay, if I judge the can, if I hold it from the bottom.

04:41:26.460 I can't drink like that, Andrew.

04:41:28.040 Are you trying to get me drunk, bro?

04:41:30.120 Kind of.

04:41:30.540 Are you trying to?

04:41:31.920 A little bit.

04:41:32.880 We got ice cream coming, by the way.

04:41:34.500 Okay, ready?

04:41:35.480 Here we go.

04:41:36.240 I'll finish the rest of this while Brian goes.

04:41:39.080 I'm going to take some very feminine sips.

04:41:40.780 Or this pinky. 1.00

04:41:41.640 Put your fucking pinky out. 1.00

04:41:42.900 Put your fucking pinky out. 1.00

04:41:43.140 I get to do it my way, but the pinky has to be out. 1.00

04:41:45.160 All right.

04:41:45.600 Pinky out. 0.93

04:41:46.240 All right.

04:41:46.340 Here we go.

04:41:46.980 One, two, three.

04:41:51.200 You'd probably drink faster than this.

04:41:52.680 Oh, my God.

04:41:53.440 It's so cute.

04:41:58.440 Oh, my God.

04:41:59.880 It's a chipmunk.

04:42:00.760 Delicious.

04:42:01.840 Oh, my. 1.00

04:42:02.980 What the fuck is this? 0.99

04:42:06.000 There's no bowls? 0.99

04:42:07.400 I don't have bowls, so we're eating out of plates.

04:42:09.720 Out of plates?

04:42:10.340 We're eating ice cream out of plates.

04:42:11.840 Keep the ice cream going.

04:42:13.160 Give it to her, then pass it to her. 0.56

04:42:14.640 I get first dips.

04:42:16.240 Actually, give it to Andrew.

04:42:17.080 Andrew gets first dips.

04:42:18.080 Sorry.

04:42:18.420 No offense, Sharon.

04:42:19.800 Shannon?

04:42:20.360 Sorry.

04:42:20.860 Yeah, that's how you.

04:42:21.840 Yeah.

04:42:22.280 Andrew's been getting me.

04:42:24.360 Andrew's been getting me.

04:42:25.840 Those things.

04:42:26.780 No, we know.

04:42:28.500 Oh, we know.

04:42:29.540 We know.

04:42:30.460 All right.

04:42:31.280 All right.

04:42:31.840 First, cheers.

04:42:33.360 Is that vanilla ice cream?

04:42:34.480 It's vanilla.

04:42:35.460 Yes.

04:42:35.900 What do you look like?

04:42:36.620 You don't like vanilla?

04:42:38.820 Wait, put me.

04:42:39.760 Okay.

04:42:40.140 I'm a fan of vanilla women, but not of vanilla ice cream, okay? 1.00

04:42:43.440 No, give it.

04:42:44.580 Go ahead.

04:42:45.220 Pass it down.

04:42:46.260 I guess so.

04:42:47.300 I like chocolate ice cream.

04:42:48.420 With the exception of my ex-wife, I like chocolate ice cream.

04:42:50.900 Well, Jungle.

04:42:51.920 This is very good ice cream.

04:42:53.340 Do you want?

04:42:53.920 Thank you, Jungle.

04:42:54.600 Oh, does it have like the vanilla bean?

04:42:56.740 Okay.

04:42:58.020 It's actually good.

04:42:58.780 I feel pretty good about having the chew pack in and eating the ice cream at the same

04:43:02.500 time.

04:43:03.340 It gives it like a little bit more flavor.

04:43:04.960 A little kick.

04:43:05.460 Mm-hmm.

04:43:06.020 Mm-hmm.

04:43:06.520 Yeah.

04:43:07.940 We got to get back to the show.

04:43:09.180 This has been like two hours of food.

04:43:11.700 Of having fun.

04:43:12.460 Yeah.

04:43:13.520 Well, you know, look, I want to.

04:43:15.080 Are people having too much fun, Brian?

04:43:17.580 Is that upsetting?

04:43:18.280 It's not allowed.

04:43:18.780 I'm the fun police.

04:43:19.880 Is that upsetting to you, man?

04:43:21.340 I'm the fun police. 0.99

04:43:21.900 We got a woman over here with a dunce cap who got a fucking mic muted. 1.00

04:43:25.440 Thousands of dollars in super chats, right? 1.00

04:43:28.240 You had to eat a fucking burrito. 1.00

04:43:29.660 Now you're eating ice cream once. 1.00

04:43:30.880 It's just a little too little fun for Brian.

04:43:33.540 Have you ever seen the movie Casino?

04:43:36.340 Yes.

04:43:39.000 There's a scene at the very beginning where they're introducing the characters.

04:43:43.480 And I think it's, I'm trying to remember who's the character narrating.

04:43:48.400 Joe Pesci's narrating.

04:43:49.660 I forgot the name of his character in the film.

04:43:51.720 Robert De Niro plays the protagonist of the film.

04:43:54.620 I forgot his name in the movie.

04:43:56.340 Ace is his name in the movie.

04:43:58.220 Yeah.

04:43:58.320 And he was running sports betting when he was younger.

04:44:00.940 That's correct. 0.93

04:44:01.440 And they're all making a fuck ton of money. 0.88

04:44:03.740 There's this, there's this, I can't, I forgot exactly verbatim what he says, but, uh, Ace 0.98

04:44:09.240 was making the, the mob, the mafia fucked on the money, but he needed protection.

04:44:13.800 Who put the protection on him? 0.84

04:44:15.940 Who put the, the Godfather put the protection of Joe Pesci on him, bro.

04:44:19.900 But the point I was trying to make here is that in the scene, when Joe Pesci is narrating

04:44:24.560 it, he says something along the lines of, and he was making money hand over fist, but 0.93

04:44:29.400 he, he never had any fucking fun with it. 0.92

04:44:32.020 Yeah. 0.97

04:44:33.080 That's me.

04:44:34.120 Hold on.

04:44:34.460 Let me let him out. 1.00

04:44:35.520 What the fuck is that? 1.00

04:44:36.460 What? 1.00

04:44:36.760 Hold on.

04:44:37.440 Uh, casino, transcript.

04:44:42.580 I don't think the guy ever had any fun with it.

04:44:45.600 You know, he just, he did it methodically.

04:44:47.900 That's basically what you're talking about.

04:44:49.600 Yeah.

04:44:50.020 Yeah.

04:44:51.040 Here, I'll read it.

04:44:52.080 Nicky.

04:44:52.640 But the only thing he had directed was the casino.

04:44:54.960 He made his first bet when he was 15 years old and he always made money. 0.99

04:44:58.940 But he didn't bet like you or me, you know, having some fun with it, shit like that. 0.98

04:45:04.520 Uh, wait, hold on. 1.00

04:45:05.540 Where the fuck? 0.99

04:45:06.320 Now it's, oh my God. 1.00

04:45:07.600 He bet like a brain surgeon.

04:45:09.920 Wait, what?

04:45:10.540 Ah, this isn't even, it's not even accurate.

04:45:12.420 Yes, it is.

04:45:12.780 That sounds exactly like the dialogue.

04:45:16.480 He'd find out the kind of inside stuff nobody else knew.

04:45:19.420 And that's what, what he'd put his money on.

04:45:21.920 Even back home years ago, when we were first hanging out together, he'd know if the quarterback

04:45:26.080 was on Coke, uh, if his girlfriend was knocked up, he'd get the wind velocity so he could 0.71

04:45:32.320 judge the field goals.

04:45:33.480 He even figured out the different bounce you got off different kinds of wood they used

04:45:37.940 on college basketball courts, you know. 1.00

04:45:40.780 He'd be working on this shit day and night. 0.99

04:45:42.820 There's nothing about a game he wasn't going to bet that he didn't know. 1.00

04:45:46.720 Uh, season after season, the prick was the only guaranteed winner I ever knew.

04:45:50.720 But he was so serious about it, all that I, all that I don't think he, wait, he was so

04:45:56.500 serious about it, all that I don't think he ever enjoyed himself.

04:46:00.340 But that's just the way he was.

04:46:03.140 Brian.

04:46:03.800 That's me, bro.

04:46:04.740 Did, did Ace need protection, Brian?

04:46:08.080 Yeah, he also.

04:46:08.980 Yeah, he needed protection, Brian. 1.00

04:46:10.440 He also married a fucking degenerate. 1.00

04:46:12.120 Hang on. 1.00

04:46:13.460 Did he need protection though, Brian? 1.00

04:46:15.220 Did he take his cowboy friend and beat his face in with a fucking phone for disrespecting 1.00

04:46:19.600 Ace? 1.00

04:46:20.360 Yes, he did.

04:46:21.320 He did need protection.

04:46:22.020 Yes, he did.

04:46:23.000 Just saying.

04:46:24.000 Just pointing this out.

04:46:24.760 So I need fun protection?

04:46:25.760 No, you just need to have some fun.

04:46:28.080 Oh.

04:46:28.580 Even Ace had some fun. 0.99

04:46:29.740 Well, now it is true that Joe Pesci started fucking Ace's girl, though. 0.99

04:46:32.860 I'm just pointing this out. 0.99

04:46:34.340 He did. 1.00

04:46:35.100 He did fuck Ace's girl. 1.00

04:46:36.040 He did fuck Ace's girl. 1.00

04:46:39.060 And then he got in the black book. 0.99

04:46:40.920 But when she tried to get him to kill his best friend, he did say, like, no, I ain't 1.00

04:46:47.020 gonna, I ain't gonna do that for you, stupid bitch. 1.00

04:46:48.880 So that was cool. 1.00

04:46:50.800 I watched Goodfellas recently.

04:46:52.360 Good movie.

04:46:52.900 Great movie.

04:46:53.860 Love that movie.

04:46:54.780 Yeah.

04:46:55.060 These girls don't know what we're talking about. 1.00

04:46:56.260 No clue.

04:46:56.960 What do you mean?

04:46:57.540 Am I a clown? 1.00

04:46:58.460 Am I a fucking clown? 1.00

04:46:59.640 Bop, bop, bop. 1.00

04:47:00.280 I've seen it.

04:47:00.960 That's not how that scene went.

04:47:02.780 Well, I didn't say I knew it word for word, but I've seen the movie.

04:47:06.340 That's not how this scene went.

04:47:07.560 Am I a clown?

04:47:08.480 Bop, bop, bop. 1.00

04:47:09.440 What the fuck? 1.00

04:47:11.640 You just disrespected. 1.00

04:47:12.880 Shannon, what do you want to know, fellas?

04:47:13.520 It's not a disrespect because he saw it two days ago and I saw it like 10 years ago.

04:47:17.060 Before that, before that, I know what movie you mean.

04:47:19.200 We got Stan here.

04:47:19.860 Bop, bop, bop.

04:47:21.460 We got Stan here, bought some, two items on the shop.

04:47:25.740 Yo, thank you so much.

04:47:27.120 Excuse me.

04:47:27.560 Thank you so much, man.

04:47:28.460 I'm a big fan of Andrew's crew.

04:47:30.180 Thank you both for what you guys do, trying to shed light on what's going on.

04:47:33.080 Yo, Stan, thank you for the merch purchase.

04:47:35.220 Appreciate it very much, man.

04:47:36.040 Appreciate it, man.

04:47:36.060 You're a legend.

04:47:36.700 Thank you, thank you, thank you.

04:47:37.860 Is everybody done with the ice cream?

04:47:40.480 Are you done?

04:47:41.380 I'm still working on it, man.

04:47:43.120 Oh, it's done.

04:47:43.880 I'm still working on it. 1.00

04:47:45.240 Damn. 0.99

04:47:46.280 That's a lot of ice cream. 1.00

04:47:47.800 Oh, no.

04:47:48.340 We're getting fed well tonight.

04:47:49.580 Bop, bop, bop.

04:47:50.720 All right.

04:47:51.660 Bop, bop, bop.

04:47:52.380 Okay.

04:47:52.680 Oh, my God.

04:47:53.080 The viewers are hating this.

04:47:54.260 We got to bring it to the show.

04:47:56.440 Let me mix my cultures.

04:47:58.900 Shannon, we did all your notes.

04:48:00.020 How are the viewers mad about us talking about Casino and Goodfellas?

04:48:03.100 Well, no, that's good.

04:48:04.380 That's good.

04:48:05.060 But the food stuff, they're probably like, all right, guys, come on, move it on.

04:48:09.100 You know what I mean?

04:48:09.920 I wish I could see the chat.

04:48:10.960 But we're talking about Casino and Goodfellas.

04:48:15.400 Yeah. 0.99

04:48:16.640 Who the fuck could ever be mad about that? 0.99

04:48:19.240 Maybe they haven't seen it. 0.99

04:48:20.460 What's your demographic?

04:48:21.480 Maybe they're under a certain age.

04:48:22.380 No, they definitely, my audience has seen it.

04:48:24.580 Oh, okay.

04:48:25.180 I don't know.

04:48:25.500 My audience has impeccable taste.

04:48:27.020 Oh, yes.

04:48:27.540 In film and cinema.

04:48:29.240 The Crucible crew is slightly better, though.

04:48:31.500 That's debatable.

04:48:31.900 I'm just going to point this out, that The Crucible is slightly better with pop culture references.

04:48:38.560 Probably.

04:48:38.760 I'm sorry.

04:48:39.700 Probably.

04:48:40.820 I might be making this up, and I might be completely wrong, but I'm standing by it.

04:48:44.720 Why is everybody up from the table?

04:48:46.400 I don't know.

04:48:46.880 It's supposed to be one at a time. 0.99

04:48:48.160 Because they had fucking melted ice cream. 0.99

04:48:50.040 They're trying to wipe their hands off, bro. 1.00

04:48:51.440 Oh.

04:48:54.080 All right.

04:48:55.160 All right.

04:48:55.420 Okay, let's get into it.

04:48:56.380 Can I have a slave, please?

04:49:00.940 You seemed like you were very good at that before.

04:49:02.880 You know what?

04:49:03.340 It's not a slave.

04:49:04.100 That's me being a mom.

04:49:05.220 It's Felicity's mom.

04:49:05.580 I got the mom instinct in it.

04:49:06.700 Oh, you're a mom. 0.99

04:49:07.540 I am a mom.

04:49:08.220 Can you collect all the plates now?

04:49:08.980 So I said, hon, let me pick up your plates, because that's what you do. 0.98

04:49:11.540 Are you done with your ice cream?

04:49:12.400 I'm done.

04:49:12.960 Yeah.

04:49:13.180 Okay.

04:49:13.680 I can't wait.

04:49:14.120 I got you guys.

04:49:14.960 I'm not a big fan of the sweets.

04:49:16.840 Thanks, Felicity.

04:49:18.280 All right.

04:49:18.880 Please pass it down.

04:49:20.280 Oh.

04:49:21.100 You know, it gets in your beard.

04:49:23.420 It's no good.

04:49:24.040 Okay, guys.

04:49:24.540 Chat.

04:49:24.640 You're tasting vanilla the whole night?

04:49:25.920 Chat, we're going to get into some good stuff.

04:49:28.660 All right.

04:49:29.400 Mary, get on the computer, please. 0.84

04:49:32.140 All right.

04:49:32.560 We're going to do a quick react.

04:49:33.760 Then we're going to do, I need everybody back at the table, though.

04:49:37.520 Hello?

04:49:38.720 All right.

04:49:40.400 So, guys, I'm going to have you react to this.

04:49:42.440 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

04:49:43.340 Wait, hang on.

04:49:44.160 Before you do that, sit down. 1.00

04:49:47.400 Where's the fucking hat? 1.00

04:49:48.900 It's right here. 0.99

04:49:49.520 Yeah, it's not on.

04:49:50.680 It's not working.

04:49:51.380 Yeah, there we go.

04:49:52.860 Can somebody get the propeller spinning, please?

04:49:56.420 Yeah.

04:49:57.520 Yeah, there we go.

04:49:58.740 Okay, now you can.

04:49:59.800 There you go.

04:50:00.980 Can you take that water off the table there?

04:50:04.420 Just leave it on the side or something.

04:50:06.040 All right.

04:50:06.520 Mary, pull up the react. 0.98

04:50:08.380 On the table.

04:50:09.520 Okay.

04:50:10.260 Oh, wait.

04:50:11.860 Yeah, we're going to react to this.

04:50:13.180 This went viral on Twitter.

04:50:15.480 This is this guy's Tinder profile.

04:50:19.900 Why are you already laughing?

04:50:21.720 The fish. 1.00

04:50:22.300 What the fuck? 1.00

04:50:22.940 Why are you already laughing? 1.00

04:50:23.820 No, you ain't laughing about the fish.

04:50:25.440 No, I am. 1.00

04:50:25.980 You're a foolish, yeah. 1.00

04:50:27.680 I really was laughing because the fish picture is just. 1.00

04:50:30.640 Make it bigger. 1.00

04:50:30.660 Fuck it. 1.00

04:50:30.940 It's bullshit. 1.00

04:50:31.800 Too big. 1.00

04:50:32.260 Wait, are we rating profiles?

04:50:33.420 I'm not sure what we're doing here.

04:50:34.260 So, okay.

04:50:35.000 Well, let me explain.

04:50:36.480 Don't over there.

04:50:36.580 Let me explain.

04:50:37.180 So, there's this app called Tinder Insights, and you can input your Tinder data, and you'll

04:50:42.140 pop out your, like, swipes.

04:50:44.760 So, he swiped two million.

04:50:48.420 I'll repeat that.

04:50:49.360 Two million times.

04:50:51.060 He, right swiped.

04:50:52.880 Yeah, two million.

04:50:53.720 He matched with 2,000.

04:50:56.580 Only 2,000 women. 0.93

04:50:58.660 He chatted with 1,200 of them.

04:51:03.340 He went on one singular date that led to nothing.

04:51:07.720 So, two million swipes for nothing.

04:51:16.700 Hang on.

04:51:17.620 I got to ask a question here.

04:51:18.860 Sure.

04:51:19.080 Go ahead.

04:51:19.340 Go ahead. 0.99

04:51:20.060 If it is the case that this poor bastard did this, I still want to go fishing with him. 0.94

04:51:27.060 Like, would the whatever podcast link with the Crucible so we can go fishing with this 1.00

04:51:32.520 fucking guy? 0.99

04:51:33.560 Who is he? 1.00

04:51:34.220 Find him. 1.00

04:51:34.420 Who the fuck cares? 0.99

04:51:35.760 Let's go fishing. 1.00

04:51:36.840 Oh, you just, I thought you wanted to go fishing with him.

04:51:38.860 Yeah, I wanted to go fishing with him.

04:51:40.400 I thought you just wanted to.

04:51:41.280 Okay.

04:51:41.600 Yeah, we'll do it.

04:51:42.260 Let's do it.

04:51:42.800 We got to find the guy.

04:51:43.500 We got to find the guy.

04:51:44.700 That's really sweet.

04:51:45.680 We got to find the guy.

04:51:46.300 Christopher Murphy, Streamlabs doesn't process Amex.

04:51:48.780 Communist.

04:51:49.260 Chair 3 is muted. 1.00

04:51:50.760 Chair 3 is fucking muted. 1.00

04:51:51.480 Do you know how to mute, Mary? 0.99

04:51:53.440 You've already been gone for a long time.

04:51:55.160 You know what?

04:51:55.780 She has some self-control.

04:51:56.640 I think she can self-mute.

04:51:58.120 Yeah.

04:51:58.520 Can you self-mute for 15 minutes?

04:52:00.720 So, it's 9.50.

04:52:03.140 Mary, let us know in 15 minutes.

04:52:04.400 Oh, my God. 1.00

04:52:04.980 Shut up. 1.00

04:52:06.280 Fucking ridiculous. 1.00

04:52:07.980 15 minutes. 1.00

04:52:08.840 That's all we have.

04:52:09.460 We asked for 15 minutes. 0.99

04:52:10.960 Holy shit. 1.00

04:52:12.100 All right. 0.99

04:52:16.880 So, ladies. 1.00

04:52:19.700 Reaction to the little thing I just showed you. 0.97

04:52:23.300 It's really shitty. 0.95

04:52:25.080 Dating apps are terrible, I think, for finding your, like, let's be for real. 0.96

04:52:29.340 Wait, this almost, remember the conversation we had earlier when it came to, like, dating 0.88

04:52:34.700 easier for, or getting sex easier for women? 1.00

04:52:38.220 So, let's pull it back up really quick. 0.83

04:52:40.840 Look.

04:52:42.420 That's a really big fish, by the way.

04:52:45.260 Look, he's, uh...

04:52:48.340 Honestly, here's the thing. 1.00

04:52:51.380 His female equivalent, she'd be a massive slut. 1.00

04:52:55.820 Huge slut. 1.00

04:52:57.440 100 plus body count. 1.00

04:52:58.800 This poor guy swipes 2 million times.

04:53:02.880 Nothing.

04:53:03.940 Nothing.

04:53:04.800 Was he in the fishing boat, you think?

04:53:06.960 Was he in a fishing boat? 0.99

04:53:08.040 When he was 2 million fucking times, dude. 0.99

04:53:11.260 Can you imagine doing this 2 million times? 0.99

04:53:14.220 It does say, like, 5 1⁄2 years.

04:53:15.960 I mean, if you're swiping.

04:53:17.060 Oh, yeah, that's fair.

04:53:17.460 I saw the time equivalent on there.

04:53:19.220 We only got one date after 5 1⁄2 years?

04:53:20.520 No, no.

04:53:21.360 No.

04:53:21.920 That's why dating for a while is in my date.

04:53:22.860 You're not paying attention. 1.00

04:53:24.500 What the fuck? 1.00

04:53:25.060 It didn't say one date. 1.00

04:53:26.300 Wait, I thought that's what I saw.

04:53:26.620 He went on one date.

04:53:27.720 Yeah.

04:53:28.220 One date.

04:53:28.780 One single date.

04:53:29.500 That was it.

04:53:30.420 And he did the date.

04:53:30.720 I'm not paying attention.

04:53:33.580 It's the alcohol.

04:53:34.660 Uh-huh.

04:53:35.400 We'll go with that.

04:53:36.200 There was one date, but there was no spark.

04:53:37.860 So, I'm assuming, like, he went on the date, but it didn't go anywhere, right? 0.99

04:53:42.600 2 fucking million times. 0.98

04:53:43.920 2 million times. 1.00

04:53:45.160 These poor men.

04:53:45.320 I think it's the fish photo.

04:53:46.940 Oh, my God.

04:53:47.300 No.

04:53:47.500 No.

04:53:47.600 No.

04:53:47.960 The fish photo.

04:53:49.880 You think it.

04:53:51.100 You like the fish photo?

04:53:52.180 Look, I'm about to say this, right?

04:53:54.260 I'm about to say this.

04:53:55.100 Y'all saying it's the fish, right?

04:53:56.680 No.

04:53:57.080 Here would maybe be the equivalent for a dude.

04:53:59.920 So, you're a white woman with, like, multiple in your bio. 1.00

04:54:04.220 Wait, why are you making racial, bro?

04:54:05.880 Because he's a white guy?

04:54:06.480 I feel like it's appropriate.

04:54:07.180 Okay, that's fair.

04:54:08.440 That's fair.

04:54:08.960 That checks out.

04:54:09.640 Go ahead.

04:54:10.340 Actually, I probably.

04:54:11.380 Thank you for that.

04:54:12.500 I will bring it there.

04:54:14.120 You have a woman.

04:54:15.260 A woman.

04:54:15.820 There we go.

04:54:16.780 She's got a Tinder profile with three kids in her photos, and she's like, yo, I got three

04:54:22.920 separate baby daddies.

04:54:24.060 I'm looking for the fourth.

04:54:25.420 Like, I think in women's minds, like, that would be the equivalent for the fish photo. 0.99

04:54:32.480 Except she's a girl.

04:54:33.180 You can just dump the fish photo.

04:54:35.820 Dump the fish.

04:54:36.080 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

04:54:36.340 Hang on, hang on.

04:54:36.360 In Brian's defense, in Brian's defense, that woman will get way more dates. 1.00

04:54:40.900 That's what I'm saying.

04:54:42.180 Way more dates.

04:54:43.900 Maybe for the wrong reasons.

04:54:45.880 I think, like, women know that she doesn't work and likes. 1.00

04:54:49.320 Like, that's kind of like an inside thing between women. 0.98

04:54:52.200 Like, if a guy has a fish photo, I feel like a lot of, I've heard a lot of women talk about 1.00

04:54:56.340 how they wouldn't go for a guy if he has, like, fish photos on his Instagram.

04:54:59.680 Why?

04:55:00.800 Not me, but I just have heard that.

04:55:02.580 I think it's just like, yeah, it's like an ongoing meme.

04:55:04.620 It's kind of like a joke.

04:55:05.880 Why?

04:55:06.440 I don't know.

04:55:07.220 What the hell is wrong with menu fish?

04:55:08.740 It's so common.

04:55:10.480 It's common.

04:55:11.440 Did you see the size of the fish?

04:55:13.520 That was not common.

04:55:14.840 That was not common.

04:55:16.580 It's an impressive fish.

04:55:18.180 Impressive-sized fish.

04:55:19.180 To be able to reel in, he can reel in the fish.

04:55:21.400 He's strong.

04:55:22.020 You're like, oh, this guy likes fishing. 1.00

04:55:23.980 Fuck this guy? 1.00

04:55:25.220 No. 1.00

04:55:25.860 Like, what the fuck did he do? 0.99

04:55:28.020 You have only so many. 0.99

04:55:29.720 It's too much.

04:55:30.480 You know what, too?

04:55:31.060 That guy looks like the type who catches the fish and then releases it.

04:55:34.700 He does look like that. 1.00

04:55:35.380 See, I'm the fucking type of prick. 1.00

04:55:36.840 I pull up those giant fish and I'm like, I ain't putting it back. 1.00

04:55:40.100 Fuck you. 1.00

04:55:40.700 I'm not. 1.00

04:55:41.220 There's no way I'm putting that back.

04:55:43.160 What are you going to do with that big-ass fish?

04:55:44.820 Well, I just...

04:55:45.820 Listen, listen.

04:55:47.220 I'm not going to even do anything with it.

04:55:50.300 But it's mine.

04:55:51.660 You see how that works?

04:55:52.540 It's like, it's mine, though.

04:55:54.020 I'm like, I don't need to do anything with it.

04:55:56.720 I caught it. 0.99

04:55:57.880 It's fucking mine. 0.99

04:55:59.180 That's how that's supposed to work. 0.99

04:55:59.800 And you have to take a photo with it and then post it on a dating app.

04:56:02.920 It's kind of cute.

04:56:03.500 It's like their hobby.

04:56:04.700 It's like their hobby.

04:56:05.620 They're expressing their hobby.

04:56:06.920 We're taking that guy out for a fishing trip.

04:56:08.760 Let's do it.

04:56:09.400 The Crucible's taking that guy out for a fishing trip.

04:56:11.380 Oh, also, can we do this?

04:56:12.720 I don't know if you saw this on Twitter.

04:56:14.380 It's not dating related.

04:56:15.880 But this poor kid, he looked like a 9 or 10-year-old, got beat up in a playground by

04:56:21.820 like a couple people.

04:56:23.960 Shiloh.

04:56:24.280 Shiloh.

04:56:24.600 Shiloh.

04:56:25.340 Huh?

04:56:25.660 Shiloh.

04:56:26.480 Shiloh?

04:56:26.940 No, nothing.

04:56:27.420 No, no, no.

04:56:27.960 Nothing?

04:56:28.460 Oh, Shiloh.

04:56:29.060 Shiloh Hendricks.

04:56:29.980 No, no, no.

04:56:30.580 There's this poor kid, like a little chubby kid.

04:56:33.300 He got like, some kids were making fun of him, or they were throwing, I forgot, were

04:56:38.860 they throwing rocks at his dog?

04:56:40.220 I forgot.

04:56:41.260 I forgot what it was.

04:56:42.800 And then these kids, he confronted them, and then one kid jumped him, and then another, 0.99

04:56:47.440 it was like a two-on-one, and he was all bleeding and shit. 0.97

04:56:50.760 I kind of want to do something for that kid. 0.98

04:56:53.600 If anybody who's watching, who knows what it is, whatever.

04:56:57.060 And then a bunch of like people on Twitter saw, and all these MMA fighters offered them

04:57:00.640 like jujitsu lessons and stuff.

04:57:03.060 So we can maybe back some of those MMA fighters up if they help this kid out? 0.97

04:57:09.620 Yes.

04:57:10.340 I saw that.

04:57:11.140 That was that little portly kid who was in a fair fight, and they got knocked out from 0.99

04:57:14.240 behind?

04:57:14.580 It wasn't even a fair fight, because the first one was a cheap shot, and then another 0.99

04:57:18.640 kid came in, and another cheap shot, totally fucked up, and he was crying. 0.99

04:57:22.840 It was cheap. 1.00

04:57:23.520 It was sad.

04:57:25.860 At least fight fair, you know?

04:57:27.780 Yeah, one-on-one.

04:57:28.900 Yeah. 1.00

04:57:29.340 That's stupid. 1.00

04:57:30.660 Mary, pull it back up really quick. 1.00

04:57:32.080 Here's what we're going to do with the panel.

04:57:33.240 I want you guys to give him a looks rating on a scale of one to ten.

04:57:36.960 And don't lie. 0.99

04:57:38.120 Don't fucking bullshit us. 1.00

04:57:39.880 Starting with you, give him a looks rating, scale of one to ten. 1.00

04:57:42.520 I think he's an attractive guy.

04:57:44.740 I would say, like, am I allowed to say seven for them?

04:57:47.820 We can't say seven for ourselves, but can I say that for him?

04:57:50.960 You're going to go on a date with him?

04:57:52.660 I am taken, but if I was single, honestly, I'd be interested.

04:58:01.740 If I were single, he's someone I would have swiped on.

04:58:03.520 You know what I feel like?

04:58:04.900 I feel like because you've got the back story here, that if I see what Brian should have done,

04:58:11.680 just pulled this up and said, would he rate him?

04:58:13.580 I think it would have been a two.

04:58:14.920 But because you have the back story, you don't want to feel like there's pressure on you.

04:58:19.520 He's kind of high-type.

04:58:20.240 Or like you would be a monster.

04:58:21.060 I wouldn't give him a two. 0.89

04:58:22.220 I mean, to other women, I know he might be a two.

04:58:25.320 But, I mean, I thought he was cute.

04:58:26.580 Do you see what I'm saying, Brian?

04:58:27.740 I feel like if the back story wasn't told, the ratings would be different.

04:58:33.800 It's true.

04:58:34.300 What do you rate him on a scale of one to ten?

04:58:35.980 Oh, he's like a six.

04:58:38.500 Oh, dude.

04:58:40.000 Oh, is the mute?

04:58:41.940 Oh, I guess we've got to skip it.

04:58:43.140 Okay.

04:58:43.420 Just write it.

04:58:44.940 Party.

04:58:45.360 I give him a three.

04:58:47.220 The roof.

04:58:48.260 The three?

04:58:48.880 Okay.

04:58:49.040 I think people are going to judge me.

04:58:50.260 I give him a three.

04:58:51.280 Probably like four or five.

04:58:53.300 Okay.

04:58:53.680 He looks like he gives good hugs.

04:58:55.580 I don't know why that at all.

04:58:56.620 That's not what I was about to hear about.

04:58:59.040 I don't know.

04:58:59.400 He looks like a sweetheart.

04:59:00.140 Does anybody rate based on hugs?

04:59:02.620 I do.

04:59:03.680 No, you come on.

04:59:04.880 I love a good hug.

04:59:05.600 But, okay, wait.

04:59:06.360 I love a good hug. 1.00

04:59:06.760 Give me a fucking break. 1.00

04:59:08.760 Oh, you know what? 1.00

04:59:09.820 I can't wait to go.

04:59:10.660 He looks like he gives good hugs.

04:59:11.900 Are we writing strictly on looks, though?

04:59:14.340 Because I can take personalities to count.

04:59:16.540 But if we're just writing on looks, that's my number.

04:59:17.780 Just looks. 0.99

04:59:18.600 And what you saw, you are swiping, I don't know, whichever way fucking women swipe on these apps. 1.00

04:59:24.180 But you come across this, you see him, which way are you swiping? 0.98

04:59:30.080 I don't know.

04:59:30.920 The next.

04:59:32.260 The next.

04:59:32.960 Yeah, exactly.

04:59:33.800 I don't know.

04:59:34.380 Left or right.

04:59:35.620 What do you rate him?

04:59:36.760 I would say four.

04:59:38.280 Four?

04:59:38.780 Okay.

04:59:39.980 He's kind of nerdy.

04:59:41.200 I like nerds, but I give him like a five.

04:59:43.420 Give him a five. 0.97

04:59:44.840 Okay.

04:59:45.200 You like hugs? 1.00

04:59:48.380 What the fuck? 1.00

04:59:49.380 We all love hugs. 1.00

04:59:50.240 A fucking hugs for shit. 1.00

04:59:51.760 You know what I do? 1.00

04:59:52.540 He looks like he's a really good hugger.

04:59:54.920 I know, man.

04:59:55.960 Brian, does any man ever want to hear, you look like you give great hugs.

05:00:00.400 Does anybody?

05:00:01.700 Oh, come on. 0.87

05:00:02.360 That's terrible.

05:00:02.980 Why is that a bad thing?

05:00:04.960 Why is that a bad thing?

05:00:05.380 Because what the man wants to hear is like, you look like you plant my face in the pillow. 1.00

05:00:09.580 They don't want to hear, oh, you look like you give good fucking hugs. 0.99

05:00:12.720 Okay, imagine me opening with, I want you, you, it sounds friendzoney. 1.00

05:00:18.080 It's like a woman. 1.00

05:00:18.800 It does sound friendzoney, yeah.

05:00:20.100 It's like a woman saying he would make a great husband. 1.00

05:00:24.440 Yeah.

05:00:24.860 Yeah, that's brutal.

05:00:26.220 Oh, wait, that's not a compliment?

05:00:28.580 No.

05:00:29.040 No.

05:00:29.640 No.

05:00:30.540 It all has to be like a red, but sexual? 1.00

05:00:32.840 Because what that sounds like is like, I wouldn't fuck you. 1.00

05:00:36.440 I wouldn't fuck you, but you do seem like you're a good husband material, so I will fuck you. 1.00

05:00:41.340 So, but don't men kind of judge that way, too? 1.00

05:00:43.760 Like, that looks like a whatever, I'm going to try for that, I'm going to fuck her, but 1.00

05:00:47.200 I want to marry this girl because she looks like a good wife. 0.99

05:00:48.880 I think that men's criteria and what they want in a wife is way less than what the criteria

05:00:53.780 is for what women want in a husband. 1.00

05:00:56.080 So do you?

05:00:56.820 No, no.

05:00:57.560 Well, it's not just a matter of looks.

05:00:59.660 I think that men look for maternal instinct.

05:01:02.700 Okay.

05:01:02.960 I think that they're looking for, like, women who could be really good mothers for their

05:01:07.420 kids.

05:01:07.720 So, like, if I were to see you and I saw the tats and this and that, I'd be, again, no 1.00

05:01:13.040 offense, but I'd instantly make the presupposition, you're going to be a fucking terrible mom, fuck 1.00

05:01:18.920 that shit. 1.00

05:01:20.060 But my priority is also children, right? 1.00

05:01:23.900 Other men might look at you and think, ah, it should be a fun ride, right?

05:01:28.460 Okay.

05:01:28.700 Literally amusement park, fun ride.

05:01:31.020 The question becomes this, though, if we're, you know, kind of like all things equal, I

05:01:36.940 think that men's standards for what they're looking for in wives is a much lower standard

05:01:42.640 than what wives are looking for for husbands. 1.00

05:01:46.360 So, like, what are you looking for if you had perfect husband? 0.97

05:01:50.900 Are you married right now?

05:01:52.300 I'm single.

05:01:53.220 Right, right.

05:01:53.660 I was married, I'm single.

05:01:54.980 So, let's go perfect husband versus perfect wife. 0.56

05:01:57.900 What does that look like?

05:01:59.960 Perfect husband versus perfect wife. 1.00

05:02:02.260 Yeah.

05:02:02.600 So, your perfect husband is what?

05:02:05.600 I think that that's somebody who is a provider, not just for myself, but for the family, the

05:02:13.000 household.

05:02:13.080 We got the provider.

05:02:14.220 Sure.

05:02:14.580 The provider is a, sure.

05:02:15.940 Somebody who is leading by example, somebody who's looking out for us to maybe correct us

05:02:20.900 That would be strong moral character, right?

05:02:22.960 Yes, strong moral character.

05:02:23.980 Strong moral character and provider.

05:02:26.080 What next?

05:02:26.620 Somebody who provides some emotional support in that sense, I think, because I also bring

05:02:34.080 some financial to the table.

05:02:36.400 But even if I didn't, obviously, be able to understand me to undergo, just like you were

05:02:41.180 talking about earlier with the whole once a month.

05:02:44.060 You're out with your husband. 1.00

05:02:45.940 A guy walks over, a rando, and he grabs your ass. 1.00

05:02:49.720 Your husband's got to knock that fucker out, right? 1.00

05:02:52.800 In my opinion. 1.00

05:02:53.500 He's got to, right?

05:02:55.100 In my opinion, yes.

05:02:56.680 Yeah, he's got to.

05:02:58.120 So, I think that comes with being the leader, the protector.

05:03:01.060 So, it's not just a matter of provider, right?

05:03:05.660 Protector in the home.

05:03:07.160 But it's also a matter of protector outside of the home.

05:03:10.520 Other people come.

05:03:11.520 Of myself and of our family.

05:03:12.840 Of course.

05:03:13.180 Of course.

05:03:13.880 So, he's got to be strong and a little bit tough, right?

05:03:16.940 He's got to be.

05:03:17.580 So, there's actually a little bit more criteria here, isn't there?

05:03:20.800 Okay.

05:03:21.420 What is he looking for in you?

05:03:23.920 I don't know what he's looking for.

05:03:25.020 You don't know what he's looking for?

05:03:26.280 No.

05:03:26.580 What is he looking for for me to just be?

05:03:28.100 I'm asking you.

05:03:29.560 What is he looking for?

05:03:30.840 What is this guy who's a great provider? 0.99

05:03:33.200 He's fucking epic. 1.00

05:03:34.460 A guy grabs your ass out in the club. 1.00

05:03:35.920 He's going to knock him the fuck out. 1.00

05:03:37.880 What's he get? 0.99

05:03:39.620 I mean, I would reciprocate as much as I can on every other level.

05:03:42.640 I mean, I can't beat up somebody.

05:03:44.920 No, I'm not asking you to beat up somebody.

05:03:46.580 What does he get, which is similar to what you're getting?

05:03:49.460 Loyalty.

05:03:50.600 You expect loyalty from him.

05:03:52.220 Yes.

05:03:52.820 That's not something new you're bringing to the table.

05:03:55.140 Okay. 1.00

05:03:55.640 Him knocking a motherfucker out is something you can't do, right? 1.00

05:03:58.540 Okay. 1.00

05:03:59.060 Because he's a man.

05:04:00.100 He's physically stronger.

05:04:00.780 So, without the equalization, you say loyalty, you're going to get loyalty from a guy.

05:04:07.640 Maybe loyalty brings in a lot of other things.

05:04:11.560 We talked about being submissive or subservient.

05:04:14.300 I know a lot of people take that as a negative.

05:04:16.080 But it's like, I'm not really sure.

05:04:19.780 I've never really thought about it.

05:04:20.780 Right.

05:04:21.040 Not really sure.

05:04:22.040 I'm not really sure because, as you guys have said, it doesn't take a lot more.

05:04:26.020 It doesn't...

05:04:27.060 Men don't look for the same things.

05:04:27.820 Oh, so the standard is lower for men.

05:04:30.660 I'm not saying the standard is lower.

05:04:32.440 It sure sounds like you're saying that.

05:04:33.680 I'm not saying the standard is lower.

05:04:34.860 I'm just saying I've never really thought about that because literally...

05:04:38.440 Because...

05:04:38.980 But men always think about that.

05:04:40.920 Do they?

05:04:41.120 That's what's so interesting.

05:04:41.860 Yeah.

05:04:42.020 I don't think men always think about that.

05:04:43.400 Yeah, they actually do.

05:04:44.780 They think about things almost starting in a transactional rate, right?

05:04:48.900 Like, what do I get versus what you get?

05:04:50.780 Okay.

05:04:51.160 Maybe.

05:04:51.180 And then they move into what they'll settle for versus what they won't settle for, right?

05:04:55.400 You, what you get is the privilege of saying, I've never really thought about that.

05:05:01.280 Isn't that kind of like slightly problematic?

05:05:03.900 It's not, but personally, it's not only because personally, I'm not actively dating or searching

05:05:10.680 for my ideal person.

05:05:13.460 Have I thought about it?

05:05:14.340 Maybe.

05:05:14.400 You've dated plenty, right?

05:05:15.940 I've dated.

05:05:16.660 Sure.

05:05:17.520 I've dated.

05:05:17.840 Sure.

05:05:18.360 And it's still never crossed your mind.

05:05:20.280 I don't think it's...

05:05:21.640 Okay.

05:05:23.280 We're not...

05:05:23.740 It's still never crossed your mind.

05:05:25.160 No, no, no.

05:05:25.840 It's not that it's never crossed my mind.

05:05:28.040 I think it's just in a way like, so I'm going to take it a couple steps back to where, when

05:05:33.380 I was married, I kind of had my role switched where I was the one financially providing.

05:05:39.520 I was the one, you know, my husband...

05:05:41.400 Like a good wife? 1.00

05:05:42.360 Like a good wife. 1.00

05:05:43.000 There's going to be times, occasionally, perhaps your husband's sick, perhaps he has problems,

05:05:47.880 things like that.

05:05:48.200 No, I'm saying for the majority of my marriage, I was the one that did that.

05:05:50.980 Why though?

05:05:51.100 So I think roles...

05:05:52.640 Because I actually don't want to get into the details of it.

05:05:56.100 Okay, okay.

05:05:56.680 But whatever the reason is, right?

05:05:58.780 My point is, from my perspective...

05:06:00.040 You did choose that man, though.

05:06:02.600 I did, but I think I felt years into it that there could have been forms of manipulation

05:06:09.220 or masking.

05:06:10.180 Fair.

05:06:10.760 And when kids come into the equation...

05:06:11.720 I'll just grant it all.

05:06:12.640 I'll just grant it all.

05:06:13.540 Okay.

05:06:13.880 But you move forward, right?

05:06:15.180 You move forward.

05:06:15.440 So you're moving forward.

05:06:16.780 How could it be possible that you can tell me what your value is or the value of women 1.00

05:06:21.020 are?

05:06:21.300 But when I ask you, the opposition, like, what is it that the man's getting on par?

05:06:26.680 You're confused and don't know.

05:06:28.460 Because she doesn't have to.

05:06:29.600 Hang on.

05:06:30.120 Let her answer.

05:06:30.840 Go ahead.

05:06:31.560 No, no, no.

05:06:32.020 It's okay.

05:06:32.460 Can you say that to me one more time?

05:06:34.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:06:35.900 What were you confused about?

05:06:37.520 You said, I'm confused.

05:06:38.440 I'm not really sure.

05:06:39.800 I think because I've never been in a relationship.

05:06:44.260 I haven't gone past a few dates.

05:06:47.600 I know you don't like the word trauma, but maybe I was a little traumatized from my marriage

05:06:51.320 that I don't really know what a strong person should look like in a maybe traditional, more

05:06:57.840 conservative type of relationship, which is something I would like to seek based off

05:07:01.220 of hearsay and other people's anecdotal kind of situations.

05:07:06.000 But I think that's why it's harder for me to say because I'm not sure.

05:07:09.380 Let's pretend that we take you and we take you out of your skin and we put you in a man's 1.00

05:07:15.180 skin.

05:07:15.880 Right?

05:07:16.540 Okay.

05:07:16.780 So women supposedly are great at empathy. 1.00

05:07:20.080 I've never thought so.

05:07:21.060 I've always thought men were more empathetic and I have great reasoning ability to demonstrate

05:07:26.980 they're more empathetic, but I'm just going to leave it and assume for a second women are 1.00

05:07:30.520 actually more empathetic.

05:07:32.560 Just because you lead with empathy doesn't mean you're actually more empathetic from my

05:07:36.500 view.

05:07:37.100 But here's what I would say.

05:07:39.160 Let's take you.

05:07:40.060 We're going to put you in a man's skin. 1.00

05:07:41.820 You swipe across yourself at like 35.

05:07:45.220 You're a 35 year old man.

05:07:46.300 And you've been in the dating field, this and that.

05:07:48.120 I look at you.

05:07:49.400 What do I see?

05:07:52.540 I see.

05:07:54.200 Let's start with negatives.

05:07:55.500 Okay.

05:07:56.040 Negatives. 1.00

05:08:00.320 You're really asking me to look at myself.

05:08:03.340 Yeah.

05:08:03.840 I'm really asking you.

05:08:04.880 Hold on.

05:08:05.060 Let me, let me put myself out.

05:08:06.460 Right.

05:08:06.720 Okay.

05:08:06.920 If I'm a guy.

05:08:08.120 So hang on.

05:08:08.740 Let me, let me, let me, let's do this again.

05:08:11.060 I want to make sure there's no confusion.

05:08:12.420 Okay.

05:08:12.780 You are supposing in your mind, hypothetically, you're a man tomorrow.

05:08:18.200 You wake up, you have your same mind, everything else.

05:08:21.600 And you're looking to date.

05:08:23.340 You swipe across yourself.

05:08:26.820 What are the negative things you see?

05:08:28.780 Um, I think the first thing is going to be age.

05:08:32.660 What is this person doing on a dating app at her age?

05:08:36.240 What age is that?

05:08:37.040 I'm 38.

05:08:38.100 Okay.

05:08:38.420 So, but I'm not on dating apps.

05:08:39.960 There's plenty of 40 year olds on dating apps.

05:08:41.700 There are.

05:08:42.080 There are plenty of them.

05:08:42.740 So what are the negatives?

05:08:43.940 Okay.

05:08:44.100 So I think for men, that would be a negative.

05:08:46.680 I feel like a lot of men look for younger women.

05:08:49.120 So that would be one.

05:08:50.180 Okay.

05:08:50.580 Um, I think depending on the person, I know you mentioned tattoos.

05:08:54.000 That could be something.

05:08:55.180 I got my tattoos with my, you're a man.

05:08:57.280 I am a man in this hypothetical.

05:09:00.100 What do you see when you see the tattoos on the sleeves and the arms?

05:09:03.960 Um, tell me what you see as a man.

05:09:06.760 I don't know.

05:09:10.760 I don't, you don't know.

05:09:11.920 The reason why I'm telling you this is because, you know, I'm looking, what type of tattoos

05:09:16.180 does she have?

05:09:16.860 Maybe the person that I'm looking for will be similar to me.

05:09:20.080 I have anime tattoos on me.

05:09:21.700 I have, you know what I mean?

05:09:22.700 Like these are all, this is from video gaming.

05:09:24.920 Maybe she's a little bit of a nerd. 1.00

05:09:26.120 If I'm being observant, if I don't like, you got, you got seven fucking seconds that 0.99

05:09:31.840 you're looking at these, hang on, hang on, seven seconds looking at this profile. 0.96

05:09:35.720 Yeah, exactly.

05:09:36.600 If that.

05:09:37.260 Okay.

05:09:37.480 So three seconds.

05:09:38.560 What do I see?

05:09:39.940 Let me actually, I'm you.

05:09:40.880 What do I see?

05:09:41.440 Let me actually take this back because you're like, let's look at the negatives, but if

05:09:45.060 I'm like, let's start, hang on, hang on.

05:09:46.520 But if I'm like, we'll get to all the positives.

05:09:48.180 No, I don't forget the positives.

05:09:49.200 I just want to see the negatives first.

05:09:52.140 Forget all the negatives. 1.00

05:09:53.400 No, fucking bullshit. 1.00

05:09:54.380 No, no, no, no. 1.00

05:09:55.480 Bullshit, cope. 1.00

05:09:56.460 Start with the negatives. 1.00

05:09:57.360 It's actually not a cope.

05:09:58.440 What I'm trying to tell you is I'm looking as a guy going on a dating app.

05:10:01.580 Yeah.

05:10:02.300 They probably would see me as, oh, she's showing skin.

05:10:05.680 Maybe the age I can put to the side.

05:10:07.480 Okay.

05:10:07.920 Age just puts it to the side.

05:10:09.180 So age.

05:10:09.660 Okay.

05:10:09.800 So, okay.

05:10:10.340 She's showing skin.

05:10:11.180 What does the skin, let's start.

05:10:13.140 We're going to do, hang on.

05:10:14.020 We're going to do one at a time.

05:10:15.020 Which can be seen as a negative.

05:10:15.980 What is the skin?

05:10:17.400 What do you think the skin is signifying to the guy?

05:10:19.440 Um, I think she's, you know, comfortable with showing herself a little bit.

05:10:26.780 She's probably a little bit more outgoing.

05:10:28.780 She's not going to be.

05:10:30.500 Does it, does it signify perspicuity maybe?

05:10:34.320 Um, I think for a majority of men, yes.

05:10:36.480 Okay.

05:10:36.780 So we got that.

05:10:37.920 What's next?

05:10:38.660 What's the next negative?

05:10:39.660 Uh, I don't know.

05:10:41.220 That's it.

05:10:42.220 Those are all the negatives.

05:10:43.420 You show a little bit of skin.

05:10:45.040 That's it.

05:10:45.500 That's the only thing they see in the dating profile.

05:10:47.820 If I have seven seconds, I'm seeing age, I'm seeing skin, I'm seeing tattoos.

05:10:52.200 If you don't like the tattoos, um, maybe, I mean, I don't want to necessarily, but maybe

05:10:57.200 racially, not their preference.

05:10:59.280 Hang on.

05:10:59.540 Let's back up.

05:11:00.260 I want to show you something that's interesting.

05:11:02.140 And I think you'll agree.

05:11:03.360 Okay.

05:11:03.860 There's, uh, many, many videos, many videos of an infant dropping from a high altitude

05:11:12.480 off of like a rail or something like that.

05:11:15.100 And a man catching, and a man catching them.

05:11:17.820 Okay.

05:11:18.180 Or even a woman catching them.

05:11:19.520 Okay.

05:11:20.340 Now think about this.

05:11:22.080 An infant falls off of like a four story balcony.

05:11:26.320 You have how many seconds?

05:11:28.520 You just have to react like that, right?

05:11:32.140 But all of the things that are processing in that microsecond is like, this kid's going

05:11:37.680 to die.

05:11:38.600 Here's what's going on. 0.84

05:11:39.760 You can process so much information in a microsecond.

05:11:44.300 Okay.

05:11:45.460 But we can't do that with a dating app.

05:11:47.560 I just don't know.

05:11:48.400 We can do that with a dating app.

05:11:50.780 We spend less than seven seconds on dating apps.

05:11:52.440 So if that is the case, right?

05:11:55.340 And I can make a, like a microcosm decision as to when to die for that infant processing

05:12:03.180 all that information in a nanosecond, right?

05:12:06.480 And catch it.

05:12:07.820 You should be able to tell me what you see as the negative within that same nanosecond

05:12:11.980 about yourself.

05:12:13.000 I guess I don't, I told you the biggest thing that I think would be a negative, the biggest

05:12:17.300 things, because it's like a quick thing is the age and the showing of skin.

05:12:23.060 Those are the tattoos.

05:12:24.320 No, I did mention tattoos in case someone doesn't.

05:12:26.840 So that's the third negative.

05:12:27.960 Anything else?

05:12:28.380 It could be a negative.

05:12:29.580 Anything else?

05:12:30.220 Um, I don't know.

05:12:31.160 I don't know.

05:12:31.460 Now, if we pull that picture up, let's do this as an experiment.

05:12:34.720 Brian, where are you?

05:12:35.760 Pull the picture back up of the fishermen.

05:12:38.000 Okay.

05:12:38.480 I want to show you something interesting.

05:12:40.360 We got three things from you.

05:12:42.120 Okay.

05:12:42.680 Right? 0.98

05:12:43.640 Don't bullshit us. 0.97

05:12:45.380 Are we talking about looks? 0.99

05:12:46.820 You got three seconds to evaluate.

05:12:50.100 Give me all the negatives and tell the truth.

05:12:54.340 They'll see right through it if you don't.

05:12:56.060 Tell us the truth.

05:12:57.100 What do you see?

05:12:57.600 The only negatives that I can see, and I'll be honest, are the fact that he might be

05:13:01.740 overweight.

05:13:02.440 Okay.

05:13:02.760 He's overweight.

05:13:03.380 What else?

05:13:03.960 That's it.

05:13:04.600 He's got, other than that, he's got a great smile.

05:13:07.000 He has good energy. 0.98

05:13:07.780 Yes, he's got a big ass fish. 0.97

05:13:09.220 I've gone fishing. 0.54

05:13:09.900 I know what that's about.

05:13:11.000 Nice background.

05:13:12.020 All mostly positives.

05:13:13.220 The biggest thing is that he might be overweight.

05:13:15.300 Not my type.

05:13:16.060 That's it, huh?

05:13:17.440 Yeah.

05:13:17.960 There's nothing else.

05:13:19.340 Let me see what it said on the thing.

05:13:20.980 If I, if I actually take the time to read it, cause most guys won't read what's on the

05:13:24.620 bio.

05:13:25.300 If I'm, if I'm not home, you can find me at the lake.

05:13:28.460 There you go.

05:13:28.940 So because he's single, he spends time on the lake fishing.

05:13:33.140 Okay.

05:13:33.900 Okay.

05:13:34.120 All right.

05:13:34.440 So did the chat see through that?

05:13:38.080 It does sound a bit copish, but okay.

05:13:40.960 What do you mean when you say copish?

05:13:42.380 I know you've mentioned that even earlier.

05:13:43.940 I'm just, I'm just trying to get an understanding.

05:13:45.140 So like cope is the idea that, um, you know, that there's some type of problem, but you refuse

05:13:55.020 to acknowledge it.

05:13:55.880 So you give excuses for the problem.

05:13:57.660 That's called cope, right?

05:13:58.800 Okay.

05:13:59.560 So there's more about him.

05:14:02.020 There's more that you see about that.

05:14:03.480 Oh man, I could give a laundry list.

05:14:06.580 In fact, let me just make it even easier.

05:14:08.560 I'll give a laundry list about me.

05:14:10.100 Right.

05:14:10.600 Okay. 0.99

05:14:10.980 I'm fucking old. 0.99

05:14:12.500 Right. 0.99

05:14:13.060 I'm setting my ways. 1.00

05:14:14.500 I got a fucking beer gut, right? 0.99

05:14:17.760 I mean, what do you, is that how you can kind of look in your picture? 1.00

05:14:20.520 I'm literally, I'm literally a fucking abrasive. 0.97

05:14:24.200 I don't give a shit what most people think, but even just off of a picture, if I give, put 0.99

05:14:28.560 my best self forward, right? 0.98

05:14:31.880 It would still be something akin to like some interest that I had or some shit like that.

05:14:38.420 And he would still look at it and be like, he's old, right? 0.95

05:14:41.740 Maybe his teeth are a little crooked. 0.99

05:14:43.520 Maybe his eyebrows a little too curked, whatever the fuck it is, there would be all kinds of 0.99

05:14:48.640 things that you could associate with me just on a picture look that would disqualify me 0.99

05:14:52.840 instantly.

05:14:53.800 Right.

05:14:54.360 Now you don't get to see the fact that I am extraordinarily charming and charismatic, but

05:14:59.660 what you would see is just the picture image, right?

05:15:03.600 And that's it.

05:15:05.080 And there's no fucking way that all of that is not processing the same time you look at 0.98

05:15:09.240 that guy with that fish. 0.98

05:15:10.380 There's just no way.

05:15:11.200 I think if I'm looking at it in a split second and going, this guy is not my type, I'm not

05:15:15.560 thinking about it.

05:15:16.200 Exactly.

05:15:16.740 But I also don't.

05:15:18.120 It's intuitive, right?

05:15:18.840 It's sure.

05:15:19.880 I'm not thinking all the other things.

05:15:21.220 By the way, this isn't a dunk on you.

05:15:22.760 No, no, no, no.

05:15:23.440 And I'm not taking it that way.

05:15:24.780 And again, as I've said, I think that didn't. 0.99

05:15:26.580 Holy shit. 1.00

05:15:27.520 She's got two babies? 1.00

05:15:28.780 Wow.

05:15:29.060 There's twins, Brian.

05:15:31.140 Twins, Brian.

05:15:32.180 Twins.

05:15:32.840 Yeah, but I mean, if you'll note, if you'll note two separate fathers.

05:15:36.620 Oh my God.

05:15:38.460 I mean.

05:15:39.020 It's not the same dad?

05:15:41.800 Well, no.

05:15:42.700 How can they be twins?

05:15:44.920 What?

05:15:46.200 I don't know.

05:15:46.760 What do you mean?

05:15:50.980 Okay. 1.00

05:15:52.040 Have you ever heard of a recessive gene, you fucking racist? 1.00

05:15:56.240 This is fucking ridiculous. 1.00

05:15:57.740 There's no recessive gene from this thing. 1.00

05:16:00.560 Drink it or dispose of it.

05:16:02.380 I think my biggest thing, though, is I think that dating apps are terrible.

05:16:05.480 I haven't done dating apps.

05:16:07.100 I don't think that.

05:16:08.740 If I met that person in, like, IRL.

05:16:11.800 I thought he went to bed.

05:16:14.080 I thought he went to bed.

05:16:14.320 Pop champagne.

05:16:15.580 So my wife asked, and I accepted.

05:16:18.100 She says that her attraction to me was my vast humor and stunning decisiveness.

05:16:23.280 I lead.

05:16:24.240 She follows.

05:16:25.440 And she agreed.

05:16:26.360 What a legend.

05:16:27.020 Chair five has to put on the hat.

05:16:28.620 Chair five gets the hat.

05:16:30.040 Give her the hat. 1.00

05:16:31.000 Ha.

05:16:31.980 Give her the hat. 1.00

05:16:32.900 And I'm going to do a little freebie for jungle here. 1.00

05:16:36.680 I put on the shit. 1.00

05:16:38.280 Oh, wait. 1.00

05:16:39.100 Holy shit. 1.00

05:16:40.060 Wait. 1.00

05:16:40.260 This was.

05:16:40.680 I accidentally triggered it twice.

05:16:42.580 I accidentally triggered it.

05:16:43.220 Well, I put it.

05:16:43.640 Now I want to see it.

05:16:45.460 What?

05:16:45.940 Well, now you did the did, did, did, did.

05:16:47.940 Now I want to see what the chat was.

05:16:49.300 Even if you triggered it twice.

05:16:50.820 It was the same one.

05:16:51.560 Yeah, I want to see it.

05:16:52.300 You want me to trigger it again?

05:16:52.980 Yeah, trigger it again.

05:16:53.520 All right.

05:16:53.660 I'll trigger it again.

05:16:54.180 Why not?

05:16:55.560 All right.

05:16:56.320 Here.

05:16:56.620 I got to do a freebie.

05:16:57.640 It's coming up in just a second. 0.99

05:16:59.300 Fuck. 1.00

05:17:00.200 Here's more wise men. 1.00

05:17:01.320 I think it's super cute.

05:17:02.380 Yeah.

05:17:02.740 You get to wear a Pokemon hat the rest of the show.

05:17:06.980 There we go.

05:17:07.360 Yes.

05:17:07.440 This is Ash's hat.

05:17:08.420 That's Ash.

05:17:09.880 She wants to be the very best.

05:17:14.340 Whoa.

05:17:16.180 So my wife asked.

05:17:17.000 There we go.

05:17:18.880 Felicity.

05:17:19.480 Pop champagne.

05:17:20.400 Come on.

05:17:20.660 Felicity.

05:17:21.060 So my wife asked and I accepted.

05:17:23.360 Who said it?

05:17:23.600 She says that her attraction to me was my vast humor and stunning decisiveness.

05:17:28.160 Oh, never mind.

05:17:29.680 Switch hats.

05:17:30.500 Not paying attention.

05:17:31.600 There it is.

05:17:31.800 This chair five has to put on the hat. 0.70

05:17:36.120 Jungle.

05:17:38.560 Thank you.

05:17:39.160 You're a legend, sir.

05:17:39.840 Okay.

05:17:40.100 Let's hear.

05:17:41.280 Oh, man.

05:17:41.840 God.

05:17:42.100 Everybody gets up when I'm trying to do some.

05:17:44.500 God.

05:17:44.820 Who got up, bro?

05:17:45.720 One person.

05:17:46.320 She has to go potty. 1.00

05:17:47.400 It's one person.

05:17:48.960 But I got it.

05:17:49.840 This segment has to.

05:17:51.220 It's like a go around the table segment here.

05:17:53.340 You know what?

05:17:53.720 I'll come back to it.

05:17:54.680 She barely speaks English anyway.

05:17:56.120 You know, it's just.

05:17:59.300 True.

05:18:00.380 Yes.

05:18:00.740 Here, Shannon, getting into your notes.

05:18:03.720 We're going to do some stuff from here.

05:18:06.060 What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? 0.99

05:18:09.900 I said.

05:18:10.860 Or wife, I guess.

05:18:12.120 A hundred.

05:18:12.580 Well, I'm with someone who I'm hoping to get married to.

05:18:15.960 So I'm hoping between a hundred thousand to a hundred and fifty thousand.

05:18:20.440 Okay.

05:18:20.740 What about you?

05:18:21.140 Um, same.

05:18:23.240 Close to three.

05:18:24.100 You know, like three hundred thousand.

05:18:25.320 Three hundred thousand?

05:18:26.340 That's right.

05:18:26.360 Have you ever been with someone who made three hundred thousand dollars?

05:18:30.260 Currently.

05:18:31.040 So I'm happy right there.

05:18:31.780 I feel like.

05:18:32.200 Okay.

05:18:32.760 Oh, man.

05:18:33.780 Okay.

05:18:34.360 She makes three hundred.

05:18:35.720 What does she do for work? 1.00

05:18:36.680 She owns several businesses.

05:18:38.240 She works in aviation as well.

05:18:40.260 So do you guys have a mansion?

05:18:42.240 Not yet.

05:18:43.000 Working on that.

05:18:43.720 But.

05:18:44.240 Okay.

05:18:44.680 Well, here's the thing, though.

05:18:46.740 Forgive.

05:18:47.620 You always have something.

05:18:48.460 Forgive my.

05:18:49.360 Right.

05:18:49.780 Like, forgive my skepticism.

05:18:52.440 Uh-huh.

05:18:52.740 Uh-huh.

05:18:53.080 But I do okay for myself.

05:18:56.780 Just a little bit.

05:18:57.880 I do okay for myself.

05:18:59.680 Um.

05:19:01.380 Even here.

05:19:03.260 Even here.

05:19:04.520 If you have the combined income you're talking about.

05:19:07.240 Like, you're doing three hundred to six hundred thousand per year.

05:19:11.540 I would think you would have a really big sprawling pad, right?

05:19:15.900 Well, we've only been together six months.

05:19:17.760 And we have eight kids.

05:19:19.560 So.

05:19:20.120 Eight kids?

05:19:21.220 Eight kids?

05:19:21.600 Yes.

05:19:21.840 Wait.

05:19:22.180 What?

05:19:22.360 What?

05:19:22.860 I said that earlier.

05:19:23.680 Wait.

05:19:24.160 Wait a second.

05:19:24.720 I don't think anybody caught it.

05:19:25.240 We all missed that.

05:19:25.660 That's right.

05:19:26.240 We all missed that, Ryan.

05:19:28.340 Yeah.

05:19:28.800 Let's rewind that.

05:19:30.200 I have two boys.

05:19:31.480 She has six.

05:19:32.780 Biological.

05:19:33.440 Like your kids.

05:19:34.340 That's right.

05:19:35.000 And six of hers.

05:19:36.540 So even though our income is pretty great.

05:19:38.320 So you've all hopped up on the old pogo stick a few times.

05:19:40.580 A time or two.

05:19:42.220 Wait.

05:19:42.460 Your household is polyamorous?

05:19:44.280 No.

05:19:44.600 Not currently.

05:19:45.260 No.

05:19:45.520 No.

05:19:45.660 It's just me and her.

05:19:47.320 How many of your kids live with you guys?

05:19:49.680 Well, hers are older.

05:19:51.040 You're the first two or three are like grown.

05:19:53.880 Okay.

05:19:54.100 We have everybody at the table.

05:19:55.760 Oh, we were going.

05:19:56.760 Okay.

05:19:56.920 We'll go around on that.

05:19:57.800 Then we'll get to the other thing.

05:19:59.020 All right.

05:20:00.320 Minimum income for your future husband?

05:20:02.100 As much as me.

05:20:03.020 Which is what?

05:20:06.720 Over 300K.

05:20:08.460 All right.

05:20:08.980 What about you?

05:20:09.420 I say 75K, just not in California.

05:20:12.200 Okay.

05:20:12.400 I'm good with that.

05:20:13.180 What about you?

05:20:13.880 60 to 70K.

05:20:15.640 You said 100K.

05:20:16.920 I said 100K?

05:20:17.880 100K.

05:20:18.540 60.

05:20:19.100 Well, you said 60K to 100K.

05:20:21.500 What?

05:20:22.140 60 to 100.

05:20:23.120 Oh.

05:20:23.680 Well, I don't know why I wrote 100K, but.

05:20:26.020 Okay.

05:20:26.660 60.

05:20:26.980 Aim high.

05:20:27.360 What about you?

05:20:29.320 3,000 per month.

05:20:31.280 So like.

05:20:31.860 You said 36,000 a year.

05:20:33.640 Yeah.

05:20:34.040 Okay.

05:20:34.440 Reasonable.

05:20:35.340 That's very more than reasonable.

05:20:37.940 Somebody understands mathematics.

05:20:39.520 Here's what we're going to do.

05:20:40.460 We have.

05:20:41.660 Or wait.

05:20:42.200 Before we do Stifler, everybody stay at the table while I read these.

05:20:45.280 Christopher Murphy, Andrew's hair is top tier Chad.

05:20:48.560 I agree.

05:20:48.940 I agree.

05:20:49.420 It's very nice.

05:20:49.820 I'm not bald. 0.99

05:20:50.880 Holy shit. 0.99

05:20:52.440 It's lovely. 0.99

05:20:53.580 He's got great flow.

05:20:55.460 It is.

05:20:57.220 Maga Ramble.

05:20:58.380 Hey, thank you so much for the super chat, man.

05:21:00.020 Andrew, I have a boat in Fort Lauderdale.

05:21:01.620 It's mahi season. 0.99

05:21:02.820 Come on down. 0.94

05:21:03.520 Also, woman don't like me. 1.00

05:21:05.720 Fish.

05:21:05.920 Fish.

05:21:06.640 What?

05:21:07.000 Is he a pirate? 0.99

05:21:08.020 Women don't like me fish pigs. 1.00

05:21:10.300 No, no, no, no. 1.00

05:21:11.480 What the fuck was that voice? 1.00

05:21:12.900 Okay. 1.00

05:21:13.160 Women don't like me fish pigs. 1.00

05:21:15.180 That's the right way, dude. 0.99

05:21:17.380 Women. 0.81

05:21:17.760 I was like a leprechaun.

05:21:19.140 Yeah. 1.00

05:21:19.400 What the fuck? 1.00

05:21:20.000 I don't know, dude. 1.00

05:21:20.840 I get leprechauns and pirates mixed up. 0.99

05:21:23.080 It's women don't like me fish pigs. 1.00

05:21:25.640 Women don't like me fish pigs. 1.00

05:21:27.020 What the fuck? 1.00

05:21:27.860 It's worse. 1.00

05:21:28.860 You made it.

05:21:29.740 You just took it.

05:21:31.040 It made it twice as cringe as the first time.

05:21:33.760 Trying to think of like.

05:21:34.920 Slap at the base.

05:21:35.920 Slap at the base.

05:21:38.320 Okay.

05:21:39.040 Because they hate men having hobbies they can't control.

05:21:42.520 Yeah, that makes sense. 0.93

05:21:44.420 I don't have a problem with the fish pigs.

05:21:46.760 Maybe the fish thing is the same.

05:21:49.520 But fishing is so much doper. 0.51

05:21:51.540 But it's like women with fake nails, especially the long ones. 1.00

05:21:55.180 Maybe that's like the equivalent. 1.00

05:21:57.120 Like men don't get that shit. 1.00

05:21:58.360 It's still type of these. 1.00

05:21:59.900 You know what I mean?

05:22:00.680 Like the new Oblivion came out.

05:22:02.760 The new Oblivion game.

05:22:04.600 And it's remastered and I couldn't wait to get my hands on it.

05:22:08.140 And man, what I rolled was epic.

05:22:10.800 I made my own class.

05:22:11.960 It's called a paladin class.

05:22:13.160 And it literally focuses on restoration and blade and a few other things.

05:22:17.460 And it's not in the game.

05:22:18.480 Is that 33? 0.97

05:22:20.180 Don't fuck up my monologue. 0.77

05:22:21.720 So we get into Oblivion. 0.86

05:22:24.560 I got it.

05:22:25.520 My wife comes out and she's like, honey, what are you doing?

05:22:27.580 I said, it's Oblivion. 0.95

05:22:28.360 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

05:22:29.180 And she was like, absolutely. 0.99

05:22:30.780 And I sat down and I played it for 13 fucking hours straight and I wasn't done. 0.97

05:22:35.520 I couldn't wait the next day. 0.97

05:22:37.440 And she was like, don't you have to stream?

05:22:38.760 And I was like, yeah, probably. 0.99

05:22:39.840 But I'm playing fucking Oblivion. 0.99

05:22:41.940 Right? 0.98

05:22:42.340 And it's remastered.

05:22:43.420 And this is awesome.

05:22:44.860 So here's the thing.

05:22:46.800 My question.

05:22:48.760 Right?

05:22:49.240 The ultimate question. 0.99

05:22:50.860 If your man's playing Oblivion, do you shut the fuck up and leave him alone? 1.00

05:22:54.900 You got to shut the fuck up. 1.00

05:22:56.140 For 13 hours? 1.00

05:22:57.740 Is it the weekend or is it the worst? 1.00

05:22:59.140 Fuck the weekend. 1.00

05:23:00.040 13 hours. 1.00

05:23:00.740 Okay.

05:23:01.060 If it's the weekend, go for it.

05:23:01.960 I did the equivalent of calling in sick. 0.99

05:23:04.460 I was like, I'm moving the fucking stream. 0.98

05:23:06.280 I'm playing Oblivion more. 0.98

05:23:07.840 To be fair, it looks like a new game.

05:23:09.840 So valid.

05:23:10.120 Yeah.

05:23:10.420 So good.

05:23:11.300 So good.

05:23:11.700 Guys, twitch.tv slash whatever.

05:23:13.240 Drop us a follow.

05:23:13.620 Drop us a prime sub.

05:23:14.580 Like the video.

05:23:15.040 Venmo.

05:23:15.340 Cash up whatever.

05:23:16.020 Do you play Oblivion?

05:23:17.060 What?

05:23:17.620 Do you play Oblivion?

05:23:18.960 I saw the trailer for the remastered.

05:23:21.620 Get it.

05:23:22.220 It's good.

05:23:22.900 I played it like way back.

05:23:24.680 Like originally briefly that I didn't get to.

05:23:26.740 I was more World of Warcraft, you know?

05:23:28.360 I'm still on the other stage.

05:23:29.780 Okay, guys.

05:23:30.840 Stifler, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.

05:23:36.320 You can't pick seven.

05:23:37.140 Starting with you.

05:23:37.720 Go ahead.

05:23:38.060 I need this question.

05:23:38.660 Okay, so last time I was on, I said six or six and a half, and apparently I'm incorrect

05:23:44.680 to your audience.

05:23:46.520 So I'll go down to a five.

05:23:48.520 Was I too mean before?

05:23:54.700 Do you think I was too mean?

05:23:55.880 You did laugh.

05:23:56.800 You weren't here in person, so I think it was depersonalized.

05:24:01.760 I don't blame you.

05:24:02.900 I'm not mad at you.

05:24:03.760 I still agree with my former position, even though I'm here in person.

05:24:07.440 Okay.

05:24:07.720 There is no possible way you can give yourself that assertive.

05:24:11.580 A five?

05:24:12.360 No way.

05:24:13.260 I mean, I see myself in the dating pool.

05:24:15.520 I am partnered.

05:24:16.900 So clearly.

05:24:18.940 All right.

05:24:19.600 Before we get into it, why don't we have everybody go?

05:24:22.920 Eight and a half.

05:24:23.960 Okay.

05:24:24.580 Eight and a half.

05:24:25.520 There you go.

05:24:26.440 Now you got to do it.

05:24:27.140 You got to answer the question.

05:24:28.260 Is she past her mute time?

05:24:30.040 Oh, no.

05:24:30.400 The mute's over.

05:24:31.220 Oh, it is?

05:24:32.080 Yeah, mute's over. 0.99

05:24:32.780 Damn, I wasn't trying the shit out of that. 0.99

05:24:34.860 So were we. 0.99

05:24:36.160 Yeah.

05:24:37.100 How are you guys?

05:24:37.520 It was great.

05:24:38.920 Five.

05:24:39.960 Okay.

05:24:40.460 Oh, no.

05:24:41.140 A six.

05:24:41.860 Okay.

05:24:42.480 A ten.

05:24:44.440 Oh, wait.

05:24:46.640 Was it on this angle when she said?

05:24:50.560 Oh, okay.

05:24:51.420 Ten?

05:24:52.140 Okay.

05:24:53.240 Seven point five.

05:24:56.120 Six.

05:24:57.640 Andrew, what do you give yourself?

05:24:59.920 I don't know. 1.00

05:25:00.340 Fucking three or two. 0.99

05:25:01.800 So over here, though, I got to ask you to the ten, right? 0.99

05:25:06.120 Yeah.

05:25:06.700 I just want to be sure.

05:25:08.460 Do you think you're the prettiest girl at the table?

05:25:11.320 Obviously not, no.

05:25:12.740 That's weird.

05:25:14.320 I think I'm pretty to myself.

05:25:15.660 Yeah, but what was the question, though?

05:25:17.600 On our own looks, on a scale of one to ten, can't pick seven.

05:25:22.120 I chose ten.

05:25:23.280 Our own.

05:25:23.900 Oh.

05:25:25.320 But I don't understand.

05:25:27.600 You consider yourself to be a ten by your own scale, but you consider that there's other

05:25:32.580 women at the table who are more attractive than you, who lower their own rates for themselves. 1.00

05:25:36.680 That's what they think of themselves, but this is what I think of myself.

05:25:41.000 I personally think I'm a ten.

05:25:42.180 I'm not saying I'm the ten out of everyone, but to me...

05:25:46.280 Somebody spin the helicopter on your hat. 0.73

05:25:48.260 All right.

05:25:48.880 Well, let me ask you...

05:25:49.680 Let me ask you this.

05:25:51.600 It's actually an important question, and there's a reason...

05:25:54.440 We're not answering for what we think.

05:25:55.100 We're answering for what you would think general population.

05:25:58.800 Well, here's the thing that's interesting, right?

05:26:00.800 That we're all...

05:26:01.420 Like, objective.

05:26:02.380 Well, everything moves into the perception.

05:26:05.420 The question being asked itself is just a determined delusion.

05:26:09.800 Very simple, right?

05:26:11.560 So, we could assume that if I asked every man that I walked across, rate yourself on a scale

05:26:17.740 of one to ten by looks, how would you rate yourself?

05:26:21.740 I think that the majority of men I came across would rate themselves somewhere between a four

05:26:26.060 and a six, even if they were very good looking.

05:26:28.080 For instance, there's a man right now who's watching this podcast.

05:26:32.460 Guarantee it.

05:26:33.380 His name is Jake.

05:26:34.540 He's better looking than from the female standard, all of you, and from the male standard, all of us, right? 0.99

05:26:40.760 He would never rate himself a fucking ten in a million years. 0.98

05:26:44.940 The question becomes, why do you? 0.99

05:26:47.060 Is it because, A, you misheard the question, because I don't think you did, because you

05:26:51.720 repeated it, or B, is it because you have a false sense of security when it comes to

05:26:57.460 your own looks?

05:26:59.020 I don't have a false sense of security.

05:27:01.060 I think I'm attractive to myself.

05:27:03.820 Yeah, yeah, sure.

05:27:04.780 So, if there was 100 men, and they were all in an audience, and you went up in front of

05:27:10.240 the audience, and they had to rate you, right behind them, all of the women on this panel 0.93

05:27:14.380 came behind you, and then they gave their ratings after, where would they place you?

05:27:19.640 I don't know.

05:27:20.640 What do you think, though?

05:27:21.940 I'm not sure.

05:27:22.800 Of course you're not sure.

05:27:24.400 That's why I'm just asking you for, like, what your subjective opinion would be.

05:27:30.440 I don't know.

05:27:31.780 You don't know your own subjective opinion?

05:27:34.400 Out of a group?

05:27:35.200 No.

05:27:35.580 Okay.

05:27:35.860 If it's other people rating me, I don't know what they would think.

05:27:38.460 Well, let me ask a different question for all the women who are here. 1.00

05:27:42.860 I'm asking for honesty.

05:27:44.360 I'm not sure I'll get it, but I am asking for it.

05:27:46.920 When all of you sat down, and you made an assessment of your surroundings, as human beings

05:27:51.820 tend to do, did you, at any point, scale things on the sense of, like, her hair is nice?

05:27:58.820 Her body's nice? 0.99

05:28:00.720 Her skin is nice?

05:28:02.020 I wish I had eyebrows like hers.

05:28:04.380 I wish I had eyelashes like hers.

05:28:07.320 Did any of you make those assessments?

05:28:09.540 Sure.

05:28:10.020 Can you raise your hand if you did?

05:28:11.720 Yeah.

05:28:13.660 Why?

05:28:14.780 I think it's just, like, naturally, when you're, like, meeting new people, and that's, like,

05:28:18.540 the first thing that you know about them, you just kind of go off of their looks.

05:28:22.560 Fair.

05:28:23.120 Why?

05:28:24.460 Um, I don't know.

05:28:27.140 Well, I think that's because that's what people, like you said, that's what you, your first

05:28:30.380 impression of a person is what you see.

05:28:32.220 And we are just, by nature, we can, do we do comparisons like that?

05:28:36.560 Why?

05:28:37.400 Yeah.

05:28:37.760 Just natural.

05:28:38.680 It's instinct.

05:28:39.640 Same?

05:28:40.200 Same.

05:28:41.820 I like looking at people.

05:28:44.040 I think I'm not very happy with my own body image.

05:28:47.960 So you compare yourself to others?

05:28:49.520 Yeah.

05:28:50.080 Fair?

05:28:51.100 Just acknowledging other people.

05:28:52.860 Just acknowledging.

05:28:53.740 Okay.

05:28:54.000 We forgot to rate ourselves, by the way.

05:28:55.480 Oh, no, he did.

05:28:56.860 You were rating?

05:28:58.300 What?

05:28:58.940 Uh, we forgot to rate ourselves, if I recall.

05:29:01.740 I rated myself.

05:29:02.720 Oh, did I forget?

05:29:03.660 You forgot.

05:29:04.100 Oh, I gave myself a five.

05:29:04.720 Okay, sorry.

05:29:05.340 Sorry.

05:29:05.500 So, well, I didn't forget, Brian.

05:29:08.180 But anyway, back to this.

05:29:10.320 So the very idea to me, then, becomes all of you made assessments in comparison to the other

05:29:17.660 women who were there.

05:29:18.680 And if you're making those comparisons, did any of you, let me just ask this, by a hand

05:29:24.880 raise, sit at the table and think that there was other women at the table who were more 1.00

05:29:29.840 attractive than you?

05:29:30.920 By a hand raise, go ahead and raise your hand if that's the case.

05:29:35.680 That makes sense to me as well.

05:29:38.140 So when we get to the rating system, what do you think we're asking here?

05:29:42.920 Like, what do you think we're asking here?

05:29:44.660 Clearly, there's a diametric difference in distinction between the looks of some of the

05:29:49.980 women on this panel versus others.

05:29:52.360 It's not even an insult.

05:29:53.960 There's massive differences in looks between the men who are here right now.

05:29:58.440 Obviously, I'm very much better looking than Brian.

05:30:01.620 But the point...

05:30:02.860 And he rated him high.

05:30:04.300 Yeah, exactly.

05:30:04.880 But the point is, right, is that obviously there's distinctions here.

05:30:10.320 So on that assessment, understanding that that is the case, understanding that you even

05:30:17.020 grant that you were making those judgments, would any of your self-ratings change by a

05:30:23.100 show of hands?

05:30:25.280 No.

05:30:25.760 Not a single one?

05:30:26.740 No.

05:30:26.920 No.

05:30:27.700 Okay.

05:30:28.380 I said what I said.

05:30:29.080 Okay.

05:30:29.520 Well, I got some stuff I want to say.

05:30:32.560 Can you carry the show, Andrew?

05:30:34.300 Don't carry the show, Andrew. 1.00

05:30:35.460 What the fuck, Brian? 1.00

05:30:36.600 A lot of mixed messages, Brian. 1.00

05:30:39.540 I can't keep up with you, Andrew.

05:30:42.120 You've been getting me sloshed off of vodka, all this.

05:30:45.500 I've been...

05:30:46.380 You drink heavily.

05:30:47.380 I rarely drink.

05:30:48.480 What do you mean I drink heavily?

05:30:49.680 I barely drink.

05:30:51.560 Okay.

05:30:52.040 You drink mostly heavily.

05:30:54.940 Most of the time.

05:30:55.720 That is rude.

05:30:56.000 I'm having a smoke. 1.00

05:30:57.160 I can't take this shit, Brian. 1.00

05:30:58.940 You just said you were hotter than me. 1.00

05:31:01.400 What's that?

05:31:02.300 What's that?

05:31:03.080 Hey.

05:31:03.800 Did you hear how he said that?

05:31:05.260 He said that like...

05:31:05.920 Wait a second.

05:31:06.820 I said like I'm his son.

05:31:08.820 Wait a second.

05:31:09.640 And I said...

05:31:10.380 I cursed.

05:31:12.640 What?

05:31:13.500 Dude, I actually...

05:31:14.760 No, when he said that, I felt fear.

05:31:17.180 You should have. 1.00

05:31:17.840 He was like, what the fuck did you just say? 1.00

05:31:19.420 You fucking piece of shit. 1.00

05:31:20.160 So, okay, hang on. 1.00

05:31:21.020 In my defense, from the charismatic perspective, it was a way... 1.00

05:31:23.880 The fuck you said to me, you little shit! 1.00

05:31:24.560 Hang on, hang on. 1.00

05:31:26.000 It was a way to provide like a sense of comedic relief.

05:31:29.900 It's not because I actually think that I'm better looking than Brian, even if I am.

05:31:33.560 Oh, no.

05:31:33.920 It was a joke.

05:31:34.780 Even if I am.

05:31:35.560 I'm not upset by it.

05:31:37.000 You seem pretty upset by it.

05:31:38.160 I'm not... 1.00

05:31:38.580 What the fuck? 0.99

05:31:39.220 I'm not upset. 1.00

05:31:39.660 Nobody's convinced, Brian.

05:31:43.840 Is anybody convinced Brian's not upset?

05:31:45.680 I'm not upset.

05:31:46.080 Show of hands.

05:31:47.220 I think you're upset.

05:31:47.760 I have captured the entire...

05:31:48.980 I think you're...

05:31:49.380 I've captured the entire panel of mine.

05:31:51.340 No.

05:31:51.520 I've captured them, Brian.

05:31:53.020 You're going to turn them against me.

05:31:54.680 You're going to turn them against me.

05:31:56.520 Well, I'll ask a couple questions.

05:31:58.400 To you, the 10, the soul 10 at the table.

05:32:01.060 Can you tell us a guy, like maybe a celebrity, famous person that you think is a 10?

05:32:07.860 I think is a 10?

05:32:08.800 Yeah, like a guy, who you think is a 10.

05:32:10.760 Ooh.

05:32:18.520 No celebrity crushes.

05:32:20.200 No.

05:32:23.020 Okay.

05:32:23.920 One vitality is...

05:32:26.200 Maybe Messi, the soccer player.

05:32:32.860 Okay.

05:32:35.500 All right.

05:32:35.820 My whole plan is failed.

05:32:39.580 Right.

05:32:40.440 Thanks, you.

05:32:40.920 I just wondered.

05:32:42.100 In terms of looks you're talking about...

05:32:44.580 He's cute.

05:32:48.400 I mean, he's rich and one of the best soccer players ever and status and successful and

05:32:55.480 all that.

05:32:57.940 He's like an average-looking guy, though.

05:32:59.940 I mean, he's an average-looking guy.

05:33:03.220 I don't need a 10 out.

05:33:04.100 When you say 10, like, come on.

05:33:05.780 Really?

05:33:06.560 Like, don't...

05:33:07.120 Look.

05:33:08.520 10? 0.99

05:33:09.300 Is he a 10 because of all the other shit surrounding him? 0.98

05:33:12.600 The fact that he's one of the best soccer players ever? 0.98

05:33:15.380 No.

05:33:15.660 He's just cute.

05:33:16.420 He's cute.

05:33:17.800 Wait.

05:33:18.140 Is cute a 10?

05:33:19.280 Can you be a 10 and cute?

05:33:20.460 Yeah.

05:33:20.520 I feel like 10 is like...

05:33:21.800 Yeah.

05:33:22.420 Like, jaw-dropping.

05:33:24.020 You literally...

05:33:25.080 They walk past you and you just are in awe.

05:33:29.140 Your head snaps and you turn.

05:33:31.400 Head turn.

05:33:32.360 Head turning.

05:33:32.500 You want me to give a different celebrity then?

05:33:33.860 Sure.

05:33:34.060 Give me a different celebrity.

05:33:35.540 He's also kind of short.

05:33:37.400 I don't care about short.

05:33:38.400 He's probably shorter than you.

05:33:39.820 Maybe.

05:33:40.100 I don't know.

05:33:40.660 Okay.

05:33:41.000 I don't think he is.

05:33:41.640 He's a great guy, though.

05:33:42.880 Give me a different celebrity.

05:33:47.900 Can it be a girl celebrity? 0.76

05:33:50.600 No.

05:33:50.880 It has to be men. 0.96

05:33:51.620 It has to be men. 0.96

05:33:53.180 Michael B. Jordan, I guess, then.

05:33:55.240 Mm-hmm.

05:33:55.740 Okay.

05:33:56.220 Real fine.

05:33:56.520 Michael Jordan.

05:33:57.640 Michael B. Jordan.

05:33:58.720 Michael B. Jordan.

05:33:59.460 Huge difference.

05:34:00.180 Okay.

05:34:00.520 Oh, yeah.

05:34:01.020 Huge difference.

05:34:01.480 He was in Sinners.

05:34:02.240 Have you slid, slid, slid into his DMs?

05:34:05.560 Now, why would I do that?

05:34:06.480 No, he's...

05:34:06.980 I'm pretty sure he's married.

05:34:09.580 I mean...

05:34:10.500 Why would I sign to his DMs?

05:34:12.960 I didn't know he was married.

05:34:14.580 Is he?

05:34:15.780 So that's...

05:34:16.580 So you're a 10.

05:34:17.340 He's a 10.

05:34:18.800 Is that...

05:34:19.480 Do you think that's a good...

05:34:20.500 If he was single, would that be a good match?

05:34:22.900 No.

05:34:23.160 So he would be settling for you?

05:34:28.300 Yeah.

05:34:29.020 Oh, okay.

05:34:32.260 But you're both 10s.

05:34:34.200 Bro.

05:34:35.340 Okay.

05:34:36.080 Bro.

05:34:37.020 Tell me, bro.

05:34:37.860 Tell him.

05:34:38.280 What's up, dog?

05:34:39.160 Okay.

05:34:40.620 What's up, dog?

05:34:41.440 Tell me, dude.

05:34:42.380 The thing is, one, he's significantly older than me, so I think that'd be a deal breaker.

05:34:46.140 Two, he...

05:34:46.240 For you or for him?

05:34:47.740 For him.

05:34:48.480 And possibly for me, too.

05:34:49.760 I mean, I don't mind.

05:34:50.520 But probably for him.

05:34:52.120 Okay.

05:34:52.160 Two, he is rich and famous.

05:34:54.380 I don't think he wants to settle for a hostess in a little town barely anybody knows about.

05:35:00.240 Yeah, but guys don't really care about a woman's status. 0.98

05:35:04.580 I don't...

05:35:04.940 It just wouldn't be a good match.

05:35:06.080 I don't want to be with someone famous.

05:35:07.560 All right.

05:35:07.820 That's fair enough.

05:35:08.280 That'd be inconvenient.

05:35:09.060 All right.

05:35:09.420 Name Taken says, so wait, Oblivion is the reason we haven't had any TikTok invasions recently. 0.72

05:35:13.940 Andrew, fair?

05:35:14.500 Uh, no.

05:35:16.560 I've given you guys actually more TikTok invasions recently than you've ever gotten, even with

05:35:21.940 Oblivion.

05:35:22.740 But that's because I need to afford the DLCs.

05:35:24.340 You should stream it.

05:35:25.100 I needed to afford the DLCs.

05:35:26.740 That's for me, Brian.

05:35:28.020 Oh, that's fair.

05:35:29.000 That's for me.

05:35:29.520 By the way, all of you, you got to get your super chats in because I'm only going to be

05:35:32.940 here another half hour.

05:35:33.740 I always have a hard out at two o'clock my time, which it almost is, and I got a debate

05:35:39.460 tomorrow.

05:35:40.080 So just, just throwing that out.

05:35:41.420 Does that mean we're all out Andrew's time?

05:35:43.020 Nope.

05:35:43.300 Nope.

05:35:43.660 Nope.

05:35:45.020 But unless you guys can convince Andrew to stay a bit longer, we'll say that and I'll try

05:35:48.860 to get through the important stuff.

05:35:50.060 All right.

05:35:50.160 Let's get through it.

05:35:50.980 Okay.

05:35:51.400 So going to you really quick, can you give us a, like a guy who you think is on your level

05:35:55.920 who's maybe like famous or celebrity, just looks wise?

05:35:59.700 Because you said 7.5, right?

05:36:03.740 Oh, I can't think of any because I think they would look better if they are famous, like

05:36:13.080 if they are movie stars.

05:36:16.220 Well, I mean, I, Brian's famous.

05:36:21.280 You're pretty famous, Brian.

05:36:22.340 You are more good looking.

05:36:23.640 What's that?

05:36:25.560 I'm more good looking.

05:36:27.580 I mean, she, she is right.

05:36:30.500 She fired him.

05:36:31.380 But he's, he's very, he's way more famous.

05:36:33.740 I don't know.

05:36:36.600 Andrew's pretty famous.

05:36:37.580 You're pretty famous.

05:36:38.440 Andrew's pretty famous.

05:36:41.960 Andrew's a famous guy.

05:36:45.980 Would you date Zijin, what's his name?

05:36:51.060 The president of China?

05:36:53.820 Zijin Ping.

05:36:54.580 Would you, would you date him?

05:36:55.700 You don't know Zijin Ping's?

05:36:57.200 I can't, bro, I don't know how to pronounce, I'm sorry.

05:36:58.960 All this political, oh, man.

05:37:03.240 Zijin Ping. 0.99

05:37:04.120 I know the fucking spelling, but I don't know how to pronounce it properly. 0.98

05:37:07.380 Would you date him? 0.99

05:37:08.060 No.

05:37:08.600 No.

05:37:09.060 The most powerful man in China?

05:37:10.800 No, no, no, no, no.

05:37:11.460 No?

05:37:11.960 No.

05:37:12.260 No, no, no, no, no, no.

05:37:13.180 No.

05:37:13.820 Why not? 0.83

05:37:14.120 He's kind of fat. 1.00

05:37:15.600 Yeah, but he's fucking fat. 1.00

05:37:16.640 He is kind of fat, right? 1.00

05:37:18.120 He's kind of fat. 0.94

05:37:18.840 Is he married?

05:37:19.320 Oh, you're not going to, is the CCP going to do away with you when you get home?

05:37:23.120 Is the CCP coming?

05:37:25.240 First of all, he's married.

05:37:26.600 Also, he's old, so.

05:37:29.040 Okay, fair enough.

05:37:29.760 Can you say, can you say, I'm not a CCP spy?

05:37:33.080 No. 0.97

05:37:33.800 And Zijin is fat. 0.91

05:37:35.440 Andrew. 0.96

05:37:36.080 I'm not going to say it.

05:37:36.480 All right.

05:37:36.700 You're not going to say it.

05:37:37.700 Yes.

05:37:38.200 Well, she does have to go home. 0.88

05:37:39.380 Oh, my God.

05:37:39.860 Just saying.

05:37:40.500 All right.

05:37:41.440 Let's see here.

05:37:42.140 We have, oh, going around the table, just to finish off on the looks rating thing.

05:37:47.680 Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?

05:37:50.780 Better looking 10 years' time?

05:37:52.500 No.

05:37:53.600 Okay.

05:37:54.600 You're 37.

05:37:55.440 Better looking in 10 years' time?

05:37:56.580 Yep.

05:37:57.180 20 years' time?

05:37:59.340 Yeah.

05:37:59.920 30 years' time?

05:38:00.920 Nah.

05:38:01.780 Okay.

05:38:02.120 So better looking at.

05:38:02.960 10 years.

05:38:04.260 Yep.

05:38:04.500 You're 37.

05:38:05.820 That's right.

05:38:06.420 So you're better looking at 57?

05:38:08.540 Uh-huh.

05:38:08.940 Okay.

05:38:09.760 What about.

05:38:10.200 Oh, and clarification.

05:38:11.480 You're 29.

05:38:12.520 Were you better looking at 19?

05:38:14.440 Or better looking now?

05:38:17.540 Honestly, I'd say pretty even.

05:38:21.420 Can you just tilt your mic down a little bit?

05:38:22.940 Okay.

05:38:23.140 Pretty even.

05:38:23.620 What about you?

05:38:24.380 37.

05:38:24.900 Better looking at 27?

05:38:26.060 No.

05:38:26.360 I was about 400 pounds back then.

05:38:28.800 And then 18 versus 37?

05:38:30.860 Even bigger.

05:38:31.680 Even bigger?

05:38:32.460 Back then. 1.00

05:38:33.200 Damn. 1.00

05:38:33.440 Okay. 1.00

05:38:34.160 You're 37.

05:38:35.080 Better looking in 10 years' time at 47?

05:38:36.740 Come on.

05:38:38.080 Come on.

05:38:38.360 Come on.

05:38:38.540 Come on.

05:38:38.820 All right.

05:38:40.700 Yep.

05:38:41.480 Go ahead.

05:38:43.380 Go ahead.

05:38:43.680 Go ahead.

05:38:43.780 Go ahead.

05:38:44.480 No.

05:38:46.000 And then were you better looking at 27 versus now at 37?

05:38:49.840 Now.

05:38:50.440 Better looking now.

05:38:51.120 Okay.

05:38:51.460 And then 18 versus 37?

05:38:53.500 Better looking now.

05:38:54.240 Better now.

05:38:54.800 Okay.

05:38:55.100 You're 38.

05:38:55.620 Better looking in 10 years' time?

05:38:57.380 No.

05:38:58.220 Okay.

05:38:58.560 And then going back 10 years, 28 versus 38?

05:39:00.940 No.

05:39:01.360 I was probably prime at like 35 a few years ago.

05:39:04.780 Yeah.

05:39:05.160 Three years ago.

05:39:06.060 Yeah.

05:39:06.160 And then 18 versus 38?

05:39:08.420 I don't know.

05:39:09.640 That's almost a different person.

05:39:11.560 We look like two different people, 18 and me now.

05:39:14.000 So would, yeah.

05:39:15.040 Which one's better looking, I guess?

05:39:16.820 I think that that's going to be a little bit subjective.

05:39:19.560 At 18, I looked very young, like a little girl still, a middle schooler.

05:39:23.780 So it just depends.

05:39:24.780 Okay.

05:39:24.800 But you were an adult, but.

05:39:25.680 I mean, 18, sure.

05:39:26.860 But yeah.

05:39:27.400 Yeah.

05:39:27.580 Well, were you better looking at 18 or at 38?

05:39:29.660 I don't know.

05:39:32.320 I don't think I can answer that.

05:39:33.680 All right.

05:39:33.920 That's fine.

05:39:34.680 18, will you be better looking in 10 years' time?

05:39:37.160 Yes.

05:39:37.880 20 years' time?

05:39:39.880 Possibly.

05:39:40.620 But I'll say yes.

05:39:41.400 30 years' time at 48?

05:39:43.640 No.

05:39:44.240 Okay.

05:39:44.800 You're 29.

05:39:45.540 Better looking in 10 years' time at 39?

05:39:47.400 No.

05:39:48.400 And then you're 29.

05:39:49.560 Were you better looking at 19 or better looking now at 29?

05:39:52.560 I think I'm 19.

05:39:55.180 Wow.

05:39:55.540 That might be the first ever honest answer ever on this.

05:39:58.160 Because here's what we've done.

05:39:59.360 Okay.

05:39:59.580 She's pretty rational.

05:40:00.720 She's been asking very rational, very based questions the entire night. 1.00

05:40:05.060 She's been like, can you justify the shit that you're saying? 0.99

05:40:07.700 And I'm like, actually, I would prefer to do that. 0.99

05:40:12.080 It checks out.

05:40:13.460 So here's what we've done.

05:40:14.700 We've put every single one of you into an AI filter.

05:40:18.560 We've aged all the time.

05:40:19.060 But before you show that, can I ask a couple of questions?

05:40:23.860 Actually, I'm going to start with you guys.

05:40:26.100 Because I'm always wondering about this.

05:40:29.160 So you said if you were to retract time, you're more attractive now than you used to be.

05:40:35.820 So if I go back 10 years, you're more attractive now.

05:40:38.160 Yeah.

05:40:38.580 Now let's say that you had the same access to the resources you do right now.

05:40:43.720 Oh.

05:40:44.400 Hang on.

05:40:44.760 And you had the same, like, thought process on giving yourself augmentations, whether they're breast implants or lipo or whatever they are.

05:40:57.180 Right?

05:40:57.660 I don't know what they are, and I don't care.

05:40:59.060 But I'm just saying whatever they are, you had the same, like, mindset for that and for exercise, diet, would you be as attractive now as you were then?

05:41:07.280 Yeah.

05:41:07.400 It was sobriety.

05:41:08.900 Back then, I wasn't sober, and I looked terrible.

05:41:11.680 So that's gone.

05:41:12.080 That's gone.

05:41:12.160 So, yeah.

05:41:12.600 So if I have sobriety back then, and I have that, oh, my God.

05:41:16.800 Yeah.

05:41:17.160 That's.

05:41:18.000 Okay.

05:41:18.460 Yeah.

05:41:18.740 So you just made poor choices when you're younger.

05:41:21.260 Yes.

05:41:21.620 But if it was equalized, you still think you would be attractive when you were younger?

05:41:25.900 That I might be more attractive 10 years ago if I was sober then.

05:41:29.080 I might still look the same.

05:41:30.780 I don't know.

05:41:31.280 But, yeah, definitely a lot of it had to do with, like, drinking a ton and looking terrible.

05:41:36.700 Same over here.

05:41:37.380 I think at 18, if I was more, because, I mean, I wear makeup and stuff.

05:41:40.920 Sure.

05:41:41.120 Again, very young.

05:41:41.800 I think if I had all the same access, I mean, I guess my assumption was we don't have, like, in 10 years from now, we're not talking about, like, oh, if I can get some degrees.

05:41:49.900 Yeah, no, I understand.

05:41:50.880 I understand.

05:41:51.080 Okay, okay.

05:41:51.380 I just want to make sure I'm getting this correctly.

05:41:53.180 At 18, sure.

05:41:54.060 If I wasn't still very young-minded, I had my mind now, I was maybe taking care of myself, sure.

05:41:59.180 Then at 18, I probably would be more attractive than I was at 35.

05:42:02.760 Here's why I bring this up.

05:42:04.480 I ask this question often.

05:42:06.020 I'll ask it real quick to this panel before he pulls up the AI images, right?

05:42:10.180 And we'll just do it by a show of hands.

05:42:13.680 If I were to ask you who's the fairer sex, men or women, let's start with men by hand raise. 0.95

05:42:21.300 Let's start with, now let's do women by hand raise. 1.00

05:42:24.280 Are they the fairer sex? 0.51

05:42:26.460 Fairer meaning, yes.

05:42:27.780 Better looking.

05:42:28.420 Are men or women the better looking sex? 0.98

05:42:31.620 Is it men by hand raise?

05:42:34.120 Is it women by hand raise? 1.00

05:42:36.880 Okay, so basically everybody says women.

05:42:39.940 Now let me ask you this way.

05:42:42.340 If it is the case that women no longer have access to makeup or any sort of augmentation, meaning breast implants, meaning lip fillers, meaning any period,

05:42:52.260 if I ask the same question, who is the fairer sex, men or women, raise your hand if your answer changes?

05:42:59.820 I think it might.

05:43:00.660 I think it might, yeah.

05:43:05.200 Because I think that there's a lot of men who are naturally like pretty attractive and they don't have to do a lot of like changing to their appearance.

05:43:13.620 But there's some women who are like attractive just solely on like their extra stuff. 1.00

05:43:19.740 My challenge would be this.

05:43:22.000 Men have not changed much since 1800 if you go back and look at pictures, right?

05:43:26.700 There's still no makeup for us and there's still basically just beards.

05:43:30.080 We get beards.

05:43:31.360 We don't get much else.

05:43:32.660 Right?

05:43:33.000 We get beards and that's about it.

05:43:35.040 The ones who are lucky.

05:43:36.220 Yeah, the same.

05:43:37.180 Yeah, exactly.

05:43:37.840 Same thing in the 1800s, right?

05:43:39.460 Yeah.

05:43:39.640 But if you go back and look at the women of that time versus the women of now, whew, I think you would be way more hard pressed when you're talking about who is the fairer sex when we get rid of all the augmentation in makeup. 0.66

05:43:53.840 That's all I'm saying.

05:43:54.880 I thought men did wear makeup.

05:43:56.880 They did.

05:43:57.340 I mean.

05:43:57.760 Well, no.

05:43:58.640 No, no, no, they didn't.

05:43:59.680 The white face.

05:44:00.840 The over English times.

05:44:02.460 Yeah, yeah.

05:44:02.880 But even in those times, women still wore makeup and men usually only wore it when they were in courtly positions.

05:44:10.400 But are you looking at them, though, from a male or female gaze?

05:44:13.440 I would look at it from both.

05:44:15.200 But I don't think you can see the way that maybe a woman might look at a man and go, yeah, she looks great. 1.00

05:44:19.660 I feel like I'm way better at juxtaposing myself in the shoes of women than women are good at juxtaposing themselves in the seat of a man. 0.89

05:44:27.100 Okay.

05:44:27.320 So when I look at it from the woman's perspective, right, I understand why women think in modernity especially that women are the fairer sex.

05:44:35.720 But they have every shortcut available, which men don't. 0.62

05:44:39.820 We have two choices.

05:44:41.700 Banger bodies and beards. 1.00

05:44:43.080 That's about it.

05:44:44.480 Good choices.

05:44:44.860 We can't decide on balding.

05:44:47.100 We can't decide on any of these things, right?

05:44:49.900 We have those two things, and you can't shortcut those two things.

05:44:52.980 If you're a man, you don't get a banger body. 1.00

05:44:54.780 Some of it's genetic, but you've got to be fucking disciplined no matter what, right? 0.99

05:44:58.520 Men can't wear makeup. 0.98

05:45:00.020 They get shamed if they do liposuction.

05:45:02.660 They do height extensions.

05:45:03.900 They do any of these types of augmentations. 0.99

05:45:06.540 Fuck no. 1.00

05:45:07.920 That's out, right? 1.00

05:45:09.080 Woman gets a butt implant, great. 1.00

05:45:11.000 Boob implants, great. 1.00

05:45:12.220 Tummy tuck, great.

05:45:13.260 Lip filler, great.

05:45:14.520 Massive amounts of makeup, great.

05:45:16.640 And that's why it's like, are they really the fairer sex, you know, when we start to break it down?

05:45:22.760 Are they?

05:45:23.340 That's a good point.

05:45:24.420 Men don't have to do anything.

05:45:25.460 They just roll over.

05:45:26.080 I always said that, too. 1.00

05:45:27.040 Men could just roll over and, like, look amazing, and you're like, damn. 0.96

05:45:29.300 But that's because I still think that women appreciate and find older men attractive, 0.99

05:45:34.100 where men, as a majority, look at women when they're younger as more attractive.

05:45:38.320 So that's why I bring up the male-female gaze. 0.85

05:45:40.680 Yeah, I understand the distinction.

05:45:42.660 That goes back to the trench coat thing, though.

05:45:44.860 If you're taking a bare-naked woman, bare-naked man, and you expose themselves, 0.97

05:45:50.720 I think, you know, it kind of sucks for guys, 0.99

05:45:53.420 but the bottom line of it is no vagina-carrying person at this table has to do much, 1.00

05:46:00.140 but carry a vagina, and we're going to get play. 1.00

05:46:02.260 Correct. 1.00

05:46:02.500 Women don't have to. 1.00

05:46:03.720 We are already the elevated sex.

05:46:04.720 Totally agree.

05:46:05.560 I mean, that's just what it is.

05:46:06.780 Well put.

05:46:07.880 That's right.

05:46:08.700 That's right.

05:46:09.560 You know, we're going to actually save the AI thing for a little later, Mary.

05:46:12.320 Pull up the one, though.

05:46:14.000 Here's that Fisher guy as a woman. 1.00

05:46:16.460 Now, look.

05:46:16.900 Wow.

05:46:17.260 She's super cute. 1.00

05:46:17.720 She's a bit big-boned. 1.00

05:46:19.580 Every fucking, like, 50% of the guys who saw her is going to bang her, right? 1.00

05:46:24.100 She downloads Tinder. 1.00

05:46:25.840 She's getting laid that night.

05:46:28.540 Yeah.

05:46:29.020 That hour?

05:46:29.740 You mean that hour?

05:46:30.840 That hour, sure.

05:46:32.440 Total differential.

05:46:33.420 Just thought it was worth pulling it up. 1.00

05:46:34.900 If she put, like, come over right now and fuck me, she's getting fucked, right? 1.00

05:46:39.440 I mean, girls don't have to even be that direct. 1.00

05:46:41.980 But if they did.

05:46:42.480 But if they did.

05:46:43.520 Yeah, sure.

05:46:44.280 She would get a guy. 0.98

05:46:45.320 Yeah.

05:46:45.520 It would come off pretty sleazy, but, yeah, she could do it.

05:46:48.220 All right.

05:46:48.480 So here's what we're going to do.

05:46:49.400 We're going to get into the questionnaire.

05:46:50.760 So we're going to, let's see.

05:46:52.740 I don't think there's really anything on the height thing that I found particularly shocking.

05:47:00.340 Joey.

05:47:01.200 Yeah.

05:47:01.620 No, actually.

05:47:03.140 Yeah, nothing too crazy on the height.

05:47:04.600 We'll just do bear then.

05:47:05.840 Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on the hike?

05:47:09.140 I think I put man.

05:47:11.800 I think that's what I put.

05:47:13.280 What about you?

05:47:14.020 Take the bear any day.

05:47:15.320 You?

05:47:15.820 Random bear.

05:47:16.720 Random bear.

05:47:17.560 Okay.

05:47:17.780 I said man.

05:47:20.180 You wrote neither, but you have to pick one.

05:47:22.060 I'll pick one.

05:47:22.960 Probably man.

05:47:24.800 Probably man?

05:47:25.860 Man.

05:47:26.420 Okay.

05:47:27.740 Why do you pick bear?

05:47:28.660 Why do you pick bear?

05:47:29.200 There was a time I was actually hiking and I was out in Zion and this guy started following

05:47:33.780 me.

05:47:35.220 Okay.

05:47:35.760 Yeah. 0.99

05:47:35.980 And in that moment I was like, fuck, if there was a bear, the bear probably would have run 1.00

05:47:39.260 away. 1.00

05:47:40.420 Because the bear is probably thinking about eating me or chasing me. 0.90

05:47:43.480 The man may be thinking about killing me, murdering me.

05:47:46.020 What kind of augmentations do I have?

05:47:49.360 All of those other things that some of them.

05:47:51.980 Why would you think about your augmentations?

05:47:53.780 I mean, all of the things that we kind of brought up today or that some of the men brought

05:47:57.580 up today is why I would choose a bear over a male any day.

05:48:00.680 Here's what I'm going to do on this one.

05:48:02.540 So me and Andrew would just totally, just totally destroy you guys on this debate.

05:48:09.800 So here's what I'm going to do.

05:48:11.120 I'm just going to state categorically that we've won the debate without even arguing the

05:48:17.840 points.

05:48:18.580 Sure.

05:48:19.800 Sounds like a good man thing to do.

05:48:21.840 Why are you robbing me?

05:48:22.900 Andrew said limbo.

05:48:23.560 Why are you robbing me, Brian?

05:48:24.540 Because there's better stuff.

05:48:25.380 All right.

05:48:25.780 If you can stay longer.

05:48:26.640 I'm staying for a second.

05:48:27.900 If you can stay longer.

05:48:28.480 No, I can't stay for longer, but I'm going to.

05:48:30.080 So if the hard's out, yeah, I'd rather get it to other stuff.

05:48:33.160 All right.

05:48:33.900 Okay.

05:48:34.440 So let's see here.

05:48:35.680 But I do like the preemptive declaration of victory.

05:48:39.080 I'm a big fan of that.

05:48:40.180 Sure.

05:48:40.640 Yeah.

05:48:41.080 It was.

05:48:41.620 Okay.

05:48:42.140 So what's men versus women and we were outnumbered and we still won exactly how it should be. 0.92

05:48:46.560 Andrew, what would interest you more?

05:48:48.380 The tea stuff or the like women oppressed feminism stuff? 1.00

05:48:51.980 Let's start with tea and move on to feminism. 1.00

05:48:53.780 Okay.

05:48:53.900 So we'll be quick on the tea stuff.

05:48:55.100 I'll make a little bit of extra time if necessary as we go through it.

05:48:58.860 All right.

05:48:59.140 So we have, let's see, Moon, you say it's wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because

05:49:08.180 they are trans.

05:49:09.300 And in addition to that, Gabby, you said a man dating a trans, or you agree a man dating

05:49:15.000 a transgender woman is straight. 0.72

05:49:16.440 And you also say you agree a man dating a transgender woman is straight.

05:49:22.240 So that's Gabby.

05:49:23.800 That's you.

05:49:25.100 And then Moon, you said you didn't say that it's straight, but you did say it's wrong to

05:49:30.280 refuse to date a transgender person because they're trans. 0.52

05:49:33.480 We'll start there. 0.60

05:49:34.860 Why?

05:49:35.260 Just curious.

05:49:35.760 So if I refuse to date a transgender woman, that would be wrong.

05:49:38.940 Why is that?

05:49:39.420 Depends on your reasoning for not dating her.

05:49:42.180 Is it just because she's trans?

05:49:45.400 Yes.

05:49:46.200 Sure.

05:49:47.440 I believe personally that a transgender woman is in fact a woman.

05:49:53.560 Why?

05:49:53.660 So if you, if you're speaking biologically, if she's had biological surgery that presents

05:49:59.320 as a female, I believe that is presenting as a female. 0.91

05:50:03.560 It's like if you drive a truck, I mean, you, let me give you, let's, let's try to, I'll

05:50:09.800 be as good faith on this as possible if you are.

05:50:12.340 So let's, let's back up.

05:50:14.240 Yeah.

05:50:14.840 What is a woman for you? 1.00

05:50:16.980 What does that mean?

05:50:17.780 For me as a woman who dates women, I would say someone feminine, someone probably with 0.99

05:50:25.240 breasts, probably with a vagina, um, like a real one, you know, real as in, yeah, a physical 1.00

05:50:33.720 vagina. 1.00

05:50:34.320 Yeah. 0.91

05:50:34.580 Uh huh.

05:50:35.020 Like born with it?

05:50:36.760 No, not necessarily.

05:50:38.440 No.

05:50:38.800 So let me ask you this.

05:50:40.300 If I were to ask you, but let's, let's pretend for a second.

05:50:44.180 I'm like your 10 year old son.

05:50:45.600 All right. 1.00

05:50:45.980 And I come to you and I say, mom, I'm not gay, but I'm going to go suck my girlfriend's 1.00

05:50:52.080 dick. 1.00

05:50:52.780 I'm not gay, but I'm going to go suck my girlfriend's dick. 1.00

05:50:55.700 All right. 1.00

05:50:55.980 I hear you.

05:50:58.320 How do you reconcile that with him?

05:51:01.180 Or no, not 10.

05:51:02.100 Let's say like 14.

05:51:03.580 How do you reconcile that with him and be like, uh, no, you're right. 1.00

05:51:09.080 That's not a gay act to go suck your girlfriend's dick. 1.00

05:51:12.780 Can you just like walk me through the logic there? 1.00

05:51:16.160 Yeah.

05:51:16.320 I know it's probably going to be different than yours, but first of all, I wouldn't care

05:51:19.660 because that's my child.

05:51:20.720 I'm not saying you care.

05:51:21.800 I'm not saying that from your view, there's anything that's wrong with that.

05:51:26.760 All right.

05:51:27.320 We're asking a specific question about homosexuality, heterosexuality, gay or straight.

05:51:33.420 He's asking this question.

05:51:35.120 Is it gay? 0.99

05:51:36.780 If I do that, am I a gay person? 1.00

05:51:39.180 If I go suck my girlfriend's dick, you say to him, what? 1.00

05:51:45.060 Have fun. 1.00

05:51:46.260 Yeah, I know.

05:51:46.680 But, but that's not, what's his question though?

05:51:49.540 My son wouldn't have a question.

05:51:52.400 Yeah, I know.

05:51:52.760 But if he did, but if he did, what is this question that I asked you?

05:51:57.140 I would say you're gay is a term that people in society chose to, to describe your sexuality.

05:52:05.620 Whatever my child, whatever descriptor he wants to use to describe his sexuality, that's up to him. 0.98

05:52:12.080 It doesn't matter who he's having sex with.

05:52:14.100 Yeah, I know, but what's, what I'm asking you for, repeat back to me the question that your 14-year-old son's asking you. 1.00

05:52:21.540 I'm having sex with a transgender woman? 1.00

05:52:24.820 Am I straight? 1.00

05:52:25.520 No, no, no, no.

05:52:25.820 What's the question your son's asking you?

05:52:28.760 Maybe I'm not getting it. 1.00

05:52:29.420 If I suck my girlfriend's dick, mom, am I gay? 1.00

05:52:33.460 I want you to repeat that so I know that you know what he's asking you. 1.00

05:52:37.840 If I suck my girlfriend's dick, am I gay? 1.00

05:52:40.720 Yeah. 1.00

05:52:41.280 Okay.

05:52:41.560 What is, how do you walk him through that?

05:52:44.500 Tell me.

05:52:45.960 Easy.

05:52:46.900 Okay.

05:52:47.580 Do you like this person?

05:52:49.140 Sure, he likes this person.

05:52:50.800 Is this person like you?

05:52:52.100 Absolutely. 0.72

05:52:53.080 Are y'all going to be engaging in this sexual activity in a safe place?

05:52:56.740 He says sure.

05:52:58.160 All right.

05:52:59.680 Are their parents okay with it since they're probably both minors?

05:53:02.280 Sure.

05:53:02.540 They say sure.

05:53:03.760 Have fun.

05:53:04.740 Okay, great.

05:53:05.600 But what's the question though?

05:53:08.220 There is none.

05:53:09.340 And for there to be one, I would not even say that I was a loving parent towards my child

05:53:15.440 if there was any other question that didn't involve their happiness and their safety.

05:53:20.060 So you just basically never answered the question?

05:53:23.880 No, because there isn't one.

05:53:24.840 Right.

05:53:25.340 Okay.

05:53:26.040 And then who was the next one?

05:53:28.000 Yeah.

05:53:28.340 So Gabby, you said that it's straight for a man to date a transgender woman.

05:53:33.980 So Gabby, your son comes to you.

05:53:36.600 I'm going to ask you the same question.

05:53:37.920 And he says, hey, mom, right?

05:53:42.140 I'm 15.

05:53:43.340 I can make my own decisions now.

05:53:45.040 I'm in a sexual relationship. 1.00

05:53:46.100 I'm going to suck my girlfriend's dick. 1.00

05:53:48.340 Is that gay? 1.00

05:53:50.340 No. 0.94

05:53:50.520 Hang on.

05:53:51.800 Can you walk me through what you would say?

05:53:54.820 Wait.

05:53:55.100 Why do they got to be 15?

05:53:58.420 16, whatever.

05:54:00.080 Because she's the mom.

05:54:03.720 And so I'm like 15, 16, 17, whatever.

05:54:06.780 Okay.

05:54:07.180 Yeah.

05:54:07.560 Whatever.

05:54:07.800 It doesn't matter.

05:54:09.340 It's irrelevant for the point.

05:54:11.000 Do they present as a girl, as a woman?

05:54:13.160 Sure.

05:54:14.100 Oh, no.

05:54:14.780 It's not gay. 0.67

05:54:15.300 That's a lady. 1.00

05:54:15.960 Lady with a dick. 1.00

05:54:17.620 A lady with a dick. 1.00

05:54:18.820 Yep. 1.00

05:54:19.100 I'm a lady with a dick. 1.00

05:54:20.300 What? 1.00

05:54:20.500 When I want to.

05:54:21.300 I mean, so does that make my partner hetero when I wear a strap?

05:54:25.360 No.

05:54:25.940 Well, hang on.

05:54:26.840 I feel like you just lied to me.

05:54:28.460 How? 1.00

05:54:29.140 Do you have a physical penis? 1.00

05:54:31.140 Nope. 1.00

05:54:31.700 Well, then why did you just say you're a lady with a dick? 1.00

05:54:33.400 You just lied. 1.00

05:54:33.940 Because a dick is something that goes inside a vagina. 1.00

05:54:36.460 It doesn't have to have blood. 1.00

05:54:37.320 So a cucumber's a dick? 0.98

05:54:39.500 If you use it as such, I mean. 0.99

05:54:41.620 Oh, yeah. 0.99

05:54:42.900 So a cucumber's a dick? 0.99

05:54:44.380 If you attach it to a person, I believe, hey. 1.00

05:54:46.260 I feel like when I say the word dick, I mean a penis that is attached to a male. 1.00

05:54:52.560 And when you say dick, you don't actually mean the word dick. 1.00

05:54:56.120 I sure don't. 0.99

05:54:56.900 Right.

05:54:57.220 Because.

05:54:57.420 Exactly.

05:54:57.960 So what you do is you just avoid the question.

05:55:00.420 No.

05:55:00.780 Because does the girl get off on the cucumber? 1.00

05:55:02.900 Or does the person with the vagina? 1.00

05:55:04.420 Sure. 0.99

05:55:04.460 Let's just assume they do. 1.00

05:55:05.540 This would be like me saying pussy is like peanut butter. 1.00

05:55:10.740 It's peanut butter, bro. 1.00

05:55:12.040 If I got a piece of meat from the grocery store and made love to it, that that's a pussy. 1.00

05:55:20.740 Not at all. 1.00

05:55:21.680 That's not the same at all. 0.99

05:55:23.520 You literally said like a banana or like a cucumber would be a dick. 1.00

05:55:27.400 Obviously, a piece of meat isn't the same shape or anatomy as a vagina, though. 1.00

05:55:31.460 I don't know. 1.00

05:55:31.880 Whatever the fuck it looks like. 0.98

05:55:32.740 No. 1.00

05:55:32.920 So maybe if you said like if you carved a piece of meat into a vagina and put a hole in it. 1.00

05:55:38.680 Is there such a thing as a dildo? 1.00

05:55:40.820 Of course there is. 1.00

05:55:41.320 Is there such a thing as a male penis? 1.00

05:55:43.500 As a male penis? 1.00

05:55:44.840 Like a. 1.00

05:55:45.320 Yeah.

05:55:46.160 What's the difference between the two?

05:55:47.940 One has blood pumping through it.

05:55:49.600 One does not.

05:55:50.240 Okay, great. 1.00

05:55:51.360 So then it is the case that if I were to say to you that you're going over to suck your girlfriend's penis, we're talking about one category, not the other, right? 1.00

05:56:01.280 We're talking about a flesh, what I call a fleshy penis. 1.00

05:56:03.420 Okay. 0.99

05:56:03.680 So if we are talking about that, then how can you possibly say a cucumber is a penis to you? 1.00

05:56:09.480 Because the same way if I put on a strap tonight and I go home and my girlfriend sucks my dick. 1.00

05:56:13.520 Then you have made the category differential that that's a dildo and not a penis. 1.00

05:56:17.120 No, it's not about the, so it's not about the equipment, it's about the wearer. 0.99

05:56:21.560 If you put on a fake vagina today, right now, and you said to us, I am now a woman, I have on a, quote, fake vagina. 0.99

05:56:30.460 Wait, it's fake though. 1.00

05:56:31.820 I mean, that's what I'm saying.

05:56:32.960 It is fake though.

05:56:34.180 To us it may be, but if you are presenting and telling us to respect you as a female person.

05:56:40.440 But is it true?

05:56:41.780 Do you believe it's true?

05:56:43.380 I know.

05:56:44.460 Okay.

05:56:44.780 Of course not.

05:56:45.740 It's like objectively not true, right?

05:56:48.680 I think exactly.

05:56:49.900 So that's why it's not about what you feel like.

05:56:53.420 It's about what the wearer feels.

05:56:54.060 I just want to say, I know it's objectively not true because you made the differential yourself. 0.99

05:56:57.740 There's a difference between a dildo and a penis. 0.99

05:57:00.280 Of course there is. 1.00

05:57:01.140 So if there's an attachment distinction, if you have that same attachment, homosexual meaning same sex, you suck on the penis of the same sex. 1.00

05:57:11.500 How is that not gay? 1.00

05:57:13.620 I don't think there's a difference. 0.99

05:57:15.140 Because gay just means you're having sex with someone of the same sex. 0.99

05:57:20.760 Got it. 1.00

05:57:21.720 However.

05:57:22.800 Wait, wait.

05:57:23.140 No, no, no.

05:57:23.820 What does gay mean? 0.99

05:57:24.900 That you're having sex with someone of the same sex. 1.00

05:57:28.300 And if you're having sex with someone in this case, who you call your girlfriend and has a penis, they are the same? 1.00

05:57:37.540 No, because if that girlfriend with the penis decided that she wanted to be a he or a they, it's not about the sex. 0.99

05:57:48.800 It's about the orientation of the person. 0.99

05:57:51.620 I have a full vagina biologically, but if I present it as male and I said I'm a male and my partner respects me as a male and uses he, him pronouns, that makes me a male. 0.98

05:58:06.160 You said gay is somebody who engages in sex with somebody of the same sex. 0.99

05:58:13.280 That's right. 0.99

05:58:13.880 If you engage with sex with a person who's a male who has a penis, even if they present as a female, by your own logical criteria, they would have to be gay. 1.00

05:58:29.340 I want to put it this way. 0.98

05:58:30.780 I think that your questions are reserved for a specific subset of people who simply don't get it and never will.

05:58:40.280 And that's just fine with me because those who do.

05:58:42.480 But you do realize that like logic has to be consistent or so logical.

05:58:46.220 No, I feel like the human sexual experience is not quantifiable, calculatable, or describable.

05:58:50.780 Oh, I can't wait to hear this.

05:58:51.920 Go ahead.

05:58:52.280 No, I have a question about like the words that you use.

05:58:57.400 So you're saying, is it gay?

05:58:59.860 Is it gay? 0.99

05:59:00.260 Is it gay? 0.99

05:59:00.720 Wait, wait, wait, wait. 0.83

05:59:01.720 No, no, no.

05:59:02.540 Wait, wait, wait.

05:59:03.500 Don't lie. 0.63

05:59:04.600 I asked her what gay means, didn't I? 0.89

05:59:07.200 Well, yes.

05:59:07.920 And what did she say?

05:59:08.960 I mean, I don't think anybody can deny what gay means. 0.80

05:59:09.500 Hang on.

05:59:09.900 And what did she say? 0.99

05:59:11.060 She said that it's having sex with someone of the same sex. 0.95

05:59:14.040 So it's not me. 0.94

05:59:15.140 Hang on.

05:59:15.500 So then before you get into whatever you're about to get into, I actually asked what her

05:59:21.520 criteria for gay was and used that, didn't I?

05:59:25.920 Hang on. 0.58

05:59:26.540 Didn't I use actually what her criteria for gay was?

05:59:30.640 So can I... 0.59

05:59:31.260 Hang on.

05:59:31.780 Hang on.

05:59:32.340 Yes.

05:59:32.820 Didn't I...

05:59:33.400 Yes.

05:59:33.920 Okay.

05:59:34.320 Now go ahead.

05:59:35.840 What if we, instead of using the word gay, used the word queer?

05:59:39.880 Okay.

05:59:40.460 Well, queer means what? 0.98

05:59:41.920 Queer means like having sex with people of either the same gender or a different gender 1.00

05:59:48.160 than you, but it's still not like... 0.99

05:59:51.240 What makes you queer, though?

05:59:53.420 Like what makes...

05:59:54.380 I guess in that instance it would be the gender part of it would make it not specifically gay

05:59:59.420 or straight. 0.86

06:00:00.260 So if I were having sex with a biological female as a biological male, but she identified

06:00:06.680 as being a male and I identify as being a female and we change nothing.

06:00:10.360 We change no phenotypical...

06:00:12.620 Hang on.

06:00:13.060 It's up to you guys.

06:00:13.900 Hang on.

06:00:13.920 Stop.

06:00:14.880 So then all that makes it queer is that we self-ID that we're queer?

06:00:18.740 That's right.

06:00:19.120 Yeah.

06:00:19.160 Because who cares about what you think or what you think or what you think?

06:00:22.420 So then how does that word have meaning?

06:00:24.440 It doesn't.

06:00:25.300 It doesn't.

06:00:26.180 It doesn't.

06:00:26.400 Exactly.

06:00:27.000 That's right.

06:00:27.600 Perfect.

06:00:28.520 What do you think about this argument, Andrew?

06:00:30.380 In a way.

06:00:31.540 If when women who are lesbians told us we were lesbians, we actually said...

06:00:38.180 Yeah.

06:00:38.300 What makes Brian not a lesbian, actually? 0.99

06:00:39.760 He doesn't have a vagina or identify with a vagina. 1.00

06:00:42.320 Oh, that's crazy. 1.00

06:00:43.680 That's crazy to me, though.

06:00:44.660 Are you a woman?

06:00:46.160 Do you consider yourself to be a female?

06:00:47.900 That's not the argument.

06:00:48.860 If Brian's...

06:00:49.220 It's about his identity.

06:00:49.940 I know.

06:00:50.360 It's about his identity.

06:00:51.260 I'm not ready for that yet.

06:00:51.800 I've just got to ask. 1.00

06:00:52.640 If Brian flopped out his penis and said it's a vagina and a woman sucked it, is he a lesbian 1.00

06:00:59.780 than if he identifies as a woman? 1.00

06:01:01.800 Are you guys able to scoot over?

06:01:02.860 If he identifies...

06:01:03.800 This way?

06:01:04.400 This way.

06:01:05.420 Just a tad.

06:01:06.300 Yeah.

06:01:06.540 Sorry.

06:01:06.820 Go ahead. 1.00

06:01:07.040 So if Brian identifies as a lesbian, he whips out his penis, a woman sucks it, right? 1.00

06:01:12.100 Mm-hmm. 1.00

06:01:12.980 He's a lesbian. 0.96

06:01:13.740 Is he...

06:01:14.800 I mean...

06:01:15.220 If he wants to say he is, then he...

06:01:17.160 That's up to him and the woman is doing it. 1.00

06:01:18.460 He might be ridiculous, but... 0.97

06:01:20.780 Then what are we pointing to here with these words? 0.98

06:01:22.880 They're empty labels.

06:01:23.620 Like me, I'm Andrew.

06:01:25.620 I...

06:01:25.940 You guys all know that I'm Andrew.

06:01:27.880 What makes me Andrew, though?

06:01:29.980 What makes me an Andrew...

06:01:31.060 If there was another guy sitting here, like, let's say Brian's name was Andrew, there's

06:01:34.960 two different Andrews, right?

06:01:36.680 Yeah.

06:01:37.020 The label is empty, then.

06:01:38.820 It doesn't point at anything.

06:01:40.380 It's just a label that says, I'm Andrew.

06:01:43.580 But if I wanted to give a descriptor for something like heterosexual, homosexual, I'd have to be pointing 1.00

06:01:49.420 towards some behavior, activity, something, right?

06:01:53.820 Something I'd have to be pointing to.

06:01:56.420 So what am I pointing to?

06:01:59.060 If the question is labels, I can't speak for any other LGBT person, but...

06:02:02.600 No, it's not just labels.

06:02:03.700 It's definitionally, if Brian says he's a lesbian, what makes him a liar?

06:02:11.360 It's that he doesn't have the follow-through of actually showing that that's what he's interested

06:02:17.000 in.

06:02:17.360 What does that mean?

06:02:18.100 That doesn't mean anything.

06:02:19.060 He's not dressed like a woman. 1.00

06:02:20.500 He's not presenting as a woman.

06:02:21.780 So you can only be that gender... 0.99

06:02:23.880 He's never taken on that identity.

06:02:25.320 So you can only be that gender if you present that way? 0.98

06:02:27.420 Nope.

06:02:27.840 If you...

06:02:28.480 Well, then that's a contradiction.

06:02:29.700 For him.

06:02:30.140 All right, fine.

06:02:31.040 We can move on.

06:02:32.440 Are there transgender people in China?

06:02:34.460 Yes.

06:02:34.940 Yes.

06:02:35.320 Oh, yeah.

06:02:35.780 Is it accepted, though?

06:02:37.280 Yes.

06:02:37.980 Not widely.

06:02:39.700 Not widely.

06:02:40.320 Okay.

06:02:40.680 It's providential, right?

06:02:42.840 Like secretly?

06:02:43.880 Yeah.

06:02:44.140 I guess so.

06:02:45.860 But there is a famous dancer as well as a comedian, a talk show comedian who is like

06:02:52.940 trans, like she.

06:02:55.560 Okay.

06:02:56.100 But it's also hated, right?

06:02:58.600 Okay.

06:02:59.360 So...

06:02:59.560 Right.

06:02:59.920 Right.

06:03:00.680 That makes sense.

06:03:02.000 Yeah.

06:03:02.160 You wouldn't want your family to be trans. 1.00

06:03:03.780 You said a man dating a transgender woman is straight.

06:03:05.980 Why do you think that is?

06:03:07.960 It's all a matter of definition.

06:03:10.080 Like if you say it's transgender woman, you already define it, like define her as a woman.

06:03:16.160 Then automatically, like that person would be straight.

06:03:19.700 Right.

06:03:19.880 She's right.

06:03:20.400 It's just trivially true.

06:03:22.120 So if you define it as such, it would just be trivially true, but it doesn't point at what

06:03:27.220 we're trying to point at.

06:03:28.820 So she's right.

06:03:29.900 Like it would just be trivially true.

06:03:31.840 If you said a woman is anybody who identifies as a woman, identify as a woman, then it's trivially 0.97

06:03:37.000 true that I'm a woman.

06:03:38.100 Right.

06:03:38.580 But it doesn't point at anything, right?

06:03:42.120 We're not pointing.

06:03:43.220 Who's pointing?

06:03:44.040 I feel like I'm in the middle.

06:03:45.260 I understand what you're saying, but I understand the people who have that mindset as well.

06:03:49.500 Yeah.

06:03:49.520 Because anytime we make a definition of anything, we want it to point to the thing we're pointing

06:03:54.760 to, right?

06:03:55.500 Why does any human feel like they need to define or point towards any other human sexuality

06:04:00.600 or what they're doing behind those doors?

06:04:00.760 Because we couldn't have communication if we didn't have definitions for what we're trying

06:04:04.100 to communicate.

06:04:04.820 Well, that needs to change.

06:04:05.860 No, it doesn't.

06:04:06.540 If I'm smoking a cigarette and everybody knows what cigarette means and you're trying to

06:04:11.080 convey the information that I'm smoking a cigarette, but I'm actually chewing gum.

06:04:15.100 Does it make sense that you say cigarette for gum?

06:04:17.320 If nobody understands what you're saying?

06:04:19.300 Unless you're chewing nicotine gum.

06:04:21.260 Yeah, but that's what I'm trying to say about gay and queer, it's that the reason that

06:04:26.780 in this circumstance of the example you were giving before with the son and the transgender

06:04:32.560 girlfriend, it's that you wouldn't specifically say is it gay because the person is queer.

06:04:39.720 He does ask that.

06:04:41.320 So I would say queer. 1.00

06:04:42.520 So what is a woman? 1.00

06:04:44.580 A woman? 0.80

06:04:45.740 I mean, oh my gosh, I have to get into it. 0.99

06:04:48.860 Like a woman basically is usually a person who is born with a vagina and the genitalia of 1.00

06:04:57.980 what we typically would know as a woman. 0.97

06:04:59.860 Usually it's doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

06:05:03.100 Usually?

06:05:03.720 It is.

06:05:04.360 It's doing a lot of...

06:05:05.120 Because I know that there's people who don't...

06:05:07.400 So what is a woman? 1.00

06:05:09.040 Like when we point to a definition, we don't say usually, right?

06:05:14.120 No, I know.

06:05:14.320 Because otherwise the definition doesn't mean anything, right?

06:05:18.220 Like if I said a camera is usually a component base that a camera had, but also an electrical

06:05:25.780 board had, I'm not pointing at anything.

06:05:28.340 So what is a woman? 1.00

06:05:30.460 A woman is someone who has a vagina. 1.00

06:05:33.900 Born with a vagina? 1.00

06:05:35.360 Yeah. 1.00

06:05:35.640 Wait, can I ask a clarifying question on that?

06:05:37.900 So you're familiar with the term neo-vagina?

06:05:41.640 Actually, I'm not.

06:05:43.140 Okay, so you know, but she said born with. 0.65

06:05:46.060 Oh, is that something like you...

06:05:47.700 Did she say born? 1.00

06:05:48.380 I thought she was a woman with a vagina. 1.00

06:05:52.060 Can you repeat it one more time? 1.00

06:05:53.400 I would say a woman born with a vagina. 1.00

06:05:55.820 Oh, okay, fair enough. 1.00

06:05:56.740 What's a woman? 1.00

06:05:58.420 Anyone who presents or identifies as a woman.

06:06:02.200 Your definition? 1.00

06:06:04.480 Has a vagina. 1.00

06:06:06.620 Same. 1.00

06:06:07.140 Has a vagina. 1.00

06:06:08.280 Wait, just to be clear. 1.00

06:06:11.420 Transgender women can get a surgery that gives them what they would call a vagina. 1.00

06:06:18.480 So I just want to clarify. 0.98

06:06:19.880 They wouldn't be biological, but they would be a woman. 0.99

06:06:22.820 A transgender woman. 0.96

06:06:24.080 Yes, that's what I'm getting to because I don't consider the transgender surgery, what they do, the bottom surgery, that's not a vagina. 0.97

06:06:36.800 So I just want to be really precise in our language here. 0.97

06:06:40.000 Are you saying a woman born, like born female with a vagina? 1.00

06:06:45.360 So a woman who's born with a vagina and then a transgender who goes through the surgery is transgender woman. 0.96

06:06:52.020 What other people want to call themselves and do, yeah, that's up to you to label. 0.94

06:06:57.360 Okay.

06:06:57.700 So are you agreeing with her?

06:06:59.060 I'm agreeing with the same.

06:07:00.100 Okay, so a transgender woman is a woman.

06:07:01.560 I do see a distinction between the two, but they're both women. 1.00

06:07:04.660 Okay.

06:07:05.640 What is a woman? 1.00

06:07:06.940 A woman is someone who either presents himself as a woman or goes through the process to be able to present themselves as a woman because there's a difference between sex and gender. 0.97

06:07:16.960 Okay, and what is a woman? 1.00

06:07:19.880 Like a woman is a person with a vagina, but like I know people are sometimes born with no complete vagina. 1.00

06:07:28.600 Like intersex? 0.99

06:07:30.020 Hermaphrodite. 0.95

06:07:30.820 Intersex? 0.94

06:07:31.600 Intersex, like they have both. 1.00

06:07:33.780 They can be. 0.99

06:07:34.600 They would call those chimeras or hermaphrodites.

06:07:37.040 Yeah.

06:07:38.040 I'm not sure about those cases, but there are cases that like their genes are like...

06:07:44.000 XXY?

06:07:44.760 No, but XX, but however, they're... 0.84

06:07:48.380 Sure, they're still males.

06:07:50.540 No, they're females. 1.00

06:07:53.080 XX is male.

06:07:54.480 XY is...

06:07:55.280 No, I'm sorry.

06:07:55.840 XY is male. 0.82

06:07:56.620 XX is female. 0.74

06:07:58.000 But you can't have XXY, right?

06:08:01.580 And things like this where you're still the opposite sex. 0.98

06:08:04.520 Yes, but I'm not talking about that case.

06:08:06.920 What is a woman? 1.00

06:08:07.900 Just define it. 1.00

06:08:08.540 A woman is a person with a complete vagina, or like they have problems with their vagina, 1.00

06:08:20.800 but they were raised up like as a social female. 1.00

06:08:29.160 Okay.

06:08:29.640 So you're talking like a birth defect.

06:08:31.860 Yeah.

06:08:32.420 Okay.

06:08:32.740 Sure.

06:08:33.000 What about transgender women? 0.95

06:08:35.440 Are they women? 1.00

06:08:37.960 Like, do they still have a penis? 1.00

06:08:41.360 But I'm a bit confused because you said born with a vagina. 1.00

06:08:45.680 No, I said with a vagina, I think. 1.00

06:08:48.620 Yes. 1.00

06:08:48.900 Oh, you said a woman is someone with a vagina, not born with a vagina. 1.00

06:08:54.380 Right. 0.99

06:08:55.220 Okay, so that would include trans... 0.86

06:08:57.220 At least in your view, that would include transgender women. 1.00

06:08:59.980 Do they still have dicks? 1.00

06:09:01.860 Yeah, they cut their dick off. 1.00

06:09:03.200 Sure, let's say they get rid of the penis. 1.00

06:09:05.320 Yeah, then it's okay. 1.00

06:09:06.320 Okay.

06:09:06.580 Then it's a woman. 0.99

06:09:07.100 Okay, cut one follow-up on that.

06:09:10.200 Can a male become a female? 0.99

06:09:12.940 Well...

06:09:15.340 Okay.

06:09:15.780 They can do whatever they please and identify with, but personally, I just...

06:09:21.820 Hold on, hold on.

06:09:22.640 So I'm asking you a question.

06:09:24.060 Yes.

06:09:24.640 So there's gender... 1.00

06:09:26.460 Can a man become a woman? 1.00

06:09:27.620 No, no, no.

06:09:28.160 There's gender and sex. 1.00

06:09:29.540 Yes.

06:09:29.620 So I'm talking gender.

06:09:31.780 A man can become a woman. 0.96

06:09:34.060 I think some of you are going to say yes.

06:09:36.340 If we're talking about sex, can a male become a female? 0.81

06:09:41.500 If it's not about gender, no.

06:09:43.420 Okay.

06:09:43.780 Can a male become a female? 0.99

06:09:45.780 I don't think I get the question.

06:09:47.180 Can you scoot your mic that way?

06:09:48.500 I think I do.

06:09:49.220 So the separation between sex and gender.

06:09:51.500 Gender is your expression of how you identify.

06:09:54.480 Sex is your actual, like, physical body.

06:09:59.480 Yes.

06:10:00.380 Can a male actually become a female? 0.95

06:10:03.500 Quick answers if you can, guys.

06:10:04.880 Yes.

06:10:05.140 If they're a hermaphrodite and you have both inside of you... 1.00

06:10:08.140 I'm speaking in generalities here.

06:10:09.540 I'm not looking for, like, the...

06:10:11.140 I'm even willing to accept it.

06:10:12.800 I'm actually willing to accept the specifics.

06:10:15.640 So if you think a hermaphrodite can become the other sex, I think that that's fine. 1.00

06:10:19.380 Yeah.

06:10:19.860 Okay.

06:10:21.040 But can I...

06:10:21.700 But I don't think we got really definitive there.

06:10:23.880 Can a male become a female? 0.99

06:10:25.180 So, yeah. 0.84

06:10:25.620 So if he was, like, presenting, but he has ovaries.

06:10:28.320 Okay.

06:10:29.040 Right?

06:10:29.520 Yeah.

06:10:29.980 But that's...

06:10:30.780 Okay.

06:10:31.000 But, like, how about there aren't birth defects?

06:10:35.700 Like an otherwise normal, healthy male.

06:10:38.000 Can they become a female? 1.00

06:10:39.620 He can't have...

06:10:41.100 He can become a woman, but female with ovaries, if you're looking at biological... 1.00

06:10:47.220 Okay.

06:10:47.260 What about you?

06:10:47.880 No.

06:10:48.720 No.

06:10:50.380 Not completely the same as...

06:10:52.700 Okay.

06:10:53.100 I just want to point out, you are...

06:10:55.920 All of you who said, a woman, is this, that, you're all biology...

06:11:01.160 Excuse me.

06:11:01.760 You're all science deniers.

06:11:04.360 All of you are science deniers.

06:11:06.120 Biology is a hard science.

06:11:09.760 Hard.

06:11:09.860 It's not a soft science, like psychology and sociology...

06:11:14.280 And economics.

06:11:15.120 Hard sciences, like biology, for example, with established facts, it's not up for negotiation.

06:11:22.420 It's not up for debate.

06:11:24.200 Sure.

06:11:25.080 Just to be clear.

06:11:25.980 Who's...

06:11:26.340 I think that depends...

06:11:27.660 So, for me, I would ask this.

06:11:29.760 Why do you, specifically you, as a hetero, married, happily, as you mentioned, man, why

06:11:38.680 do you care?

06:11:39.620 Well, I'll dive into it, and I'll show you why.

06:11:42.360 Actually, this is a...

06:11:43.900 I'm sorry.

06:11:45.280 I know I was having a conversation.

06:11:47.140 You couldn't help but butt in.

06:11:48.260 Go ahead.

06:11:49.420 I feel like I kind of understand why.

06:11:50.840 And I don't care.

06:11:51.300 But anyway, so back to this conversation over here.

06:11:53.540 I can't believe that you just butted in while we were having the discussion, but you

06:11:57.860 couldn't help yourself, but here's the thing.

06:12:00.620 I think that that's a fair question, and I'll explain my position, but let's start

06:12:05.540 with this.

06:12:05.920 I want to show you something that's super important.

06:12:08.140 Okay.

06:12:08.820 In philosophy, we call this an infinite regress.

06:12:12.940 An infinite regress would be if I ask you, in this case, for like a definition, and you

06:12:19.800 give me the thing that I'm asking about as the definition, it infinitely regresses.

06:12:26.140 And I'm going to show you how this works in real time.

06:12:28.680 So I asked you, what is a woman? 1.00

06:12:30.820 And you said, a woman's anybody who identifies as a woman.

06:12:33.740 That seems fair, right?

06:12:35.780 Okay.

06:12:37.540 Is she a woman? 1.00

06:12:39.240 To me, looking at her sitting here, yes.

06:12:41.680 Am I a woman?

06:12:42.960 No, because you definitely don't present and have stated that you are not.

06:12:47.100 That seems fair that there's distinctions between the two of us.

06:12:51.200 So if I ask the criteria again, what differentiates me from her?

06:13:00.800 If you say a woman's anyone who identifies as a woman, okay, I'm a woman.

06:13:06.260 All right.

06:13:07.120 What differentiates us now?

06:13:09.420 Well, despite the fact you became a woman five seconds ago.

06:13:13.080 But I am now.

06:13:14.860 Physically.

06:13:15.360 What differentiates us?

06:13:17.640 The physical characteristics of being female.

06:13:21.320 At this point in your transition, ma'am, that's a big difference.

06:13:26.940 And what are those differences? 0.51

06:13:30.100 I don't see boobs. 0.99

06:13:32.120 I don't think there's a vagina present. 1.00

06:13:34.760 Then it sounds to me like when you say woman, you actually don't mean anybody who says woman 0.94

06:13:39.800 because that doesn't give you enough information.

06:13:42.020 It sounds like you mean there has to be other criteria there.

06:13:46.900 Otherwise, how could you make the distinction?

06:13:50.800 Because you would tell me, like you just did, you'd say guidance, I'm a woman.

06:13:54.860 And from there on out, I would respect you.

06:13:56.780 Yeah, but why is it that you would instantly see her as a woman and not instantly see me as one?

06:14:03.320 The same reason why you would look at me and say African-American and not Latino.

06:14:08.160 That makes sense.

06:14:09.180 So if I were to say like black definitionally, I might point to like skin.

06:14:13.380 I might point to hair.

06:14:14.840 I might point to all sorts of physical differentials, right?

06:14:17.720 That's right.

06:14:18.020 I would not say anybody who identifies as black, would I? 1.00

06:14:21.100 Nope.

06:14:21.640 Why?

06:14:22.280 Because you can't really and truly choose that race is different than sex.

06:14:28.600 Yeah, yeah.

06:14:29.120 But hang on, hang on, hang on.

06:14:30.940 I'm not saying they're the same.

06:14:33.000 I'm just asking you this one question.

06:14:36.540 Yep.

06:14:36.980 What would make me not black? 0.98

06:14:39.000 You're not. 0.98

06:14:41.040 You don't.

06:14:41.960 You're not black. 1.00

06:14:42.080 So if you gave a definition of black versus white, you would be pointing to criteria,

06:14:46.560 which made a differential between black and white.

06:14:49.260 You can't choose that.

06:14:50.640 That you can look at me and say, how is it that you can look at me and say, man, look

06:14:54.760 at her and say, woman. 1.00

06:14:56.520 Because you are presenting as man.

06:14:58.300 But the second I say, but I identify as a woman, suddenly those distinctions go away.

06:15:01.720 That's an infinite regress.

06:15:03.140 What that means is, what is a woman? 0.97

06:15:05.360 A woman is anyone who says they're a woman. 1.00

06:15:06.960 Yeah.

06:15:07.140 But what is that though?

06:15:08.380 Well, anyone who says they're that thing.

06:15:10.180 But what is that?

06:15:11.640 Anyone who says they're that.

06:15:13.140 But what is it though?

06:15:15.040 It's anyone who says they're that, right?

06:15:17.100 I don't think the people, there's no one asking that question.

06:15:20.100 Yeah.

06:15:20.340 But that's what they are asking.

06:15:22.340 I, that is what they're asking.

06:15:24.580 And so the thing is.

06:15:25.440 That's what y'all are asking.

06:15:26.700 Yeah.

06:15:26.780 It is what we all are asking.

06:15:29.080 People who are on that spectrum, we don't care. 0.99

06:15:31.140 No one else cares.

06:15:31.780 I know you don't care, but it's super important to us.

06:15:33.840 Other than men who are not happy with the state of males in the country.

06:15:37.060 Yeah.

06:15:37.280 But it's still super important to us because.

06:15:38.460 To who's us?

06:15:39.260 Yeah.

06:15:39.680 So to the people who don't believe in the ideology.

06:15:42.380 There you go.

06:15:42.900 I think that answers.

06:15:43.900 Wait a second.

06:15:45.480 Anybody can just identify as anything to become that thing.

06:15:48.780 You say, no, they can't.

06:15:50.000 But when I say, what's a woman? 0.95

06:15:51.340 You say, anybody who identifies as a woman.

06:15:53.340 I say, well, what distinguishes me from her?

06:15:55.620 This, this, this, this, this.

06:15:58.720 And then I say, okay, so what is a woman? 0.99

06:16:01.500 Well, anybody who identifies as a woman.

06:16:03.400 You're not pointing at anything.

06:16:05.160 You have an empty label.

06:16:06.600 It points to nothing.

06:16:08.180 I think because.

06:16:09.340 Listen, I want to explain this so that you know.

06:16:12.040 You've been explaining it.

06:16:12.720 It's a logical, it's, it's actually logically fallacious.

06:16:16.940 It's called an infinite regress fallacy.

06:16:19.680 What you're doing is you're infinitely regressing.

06:16:22.680 So you're just always saying the same thing, but never pointing to anything.

06:16:26.340 So if I were to tell you, if I were to ask you, what's a guitar?

06:16:30.100 And you said, anything I point to and say, it's a guitar.

06:16:32.660 Have you told me what a guitar is?

06:16:34.620 No.

06:16:34.800 But I think most people, when you say guitar, they form an image of a guitar in their mind.

06:16:42.400 Yeah.

06:16:42.540 So if you just say, I mean, you know, hey, if you want to play a drum as a guitar, you

06:16:46.920 can do that.

06:16:47.680 But I think.

06:16:48.320 I totally agree with this.

06:16:50.060 We're removing the human experience from all of this.

06:16:53.500 It's only the human experience, which can identify what is a guitar.

06:16:56.680 Who can make a guitar besides a human?

06:16:59.220 Oh, I don't know.

06:16:59.900 Nobody.

06:17:00.780 Nothing can make a guitar, but a human as far as we know.

06:17:03.600 So if that's the case, when I say, what is a guitar?

06:17:06.840 And you say, you say anything I point to and say, it's a guitar.

06:17:09.260 You say that tells me nothing.

06:17:11.200 I agree.

06:17:12.160 Hey, you would, if I asked you this question and just describe it for me, what is a guitar?

06:17:19.600 An instrument with strings.

06:17:21.620 What does it look like?

06:17:24.380 That's, there's so many shapes of guitars.

06:17:26.700 Yeah.

06:17:27.020 But what do they generally at least look like?

06:17:29.200 Long stick strings and a bottom part.

06:17:32.000 I don't even know what you call that.

06:17:32.960 So based on that, I can at least say that I can rule out everything without strings as

06:17:38.280 an instrument as not being a guitar, right?

06:17:40.780 Sure.

06:17:41.180 Now we're getting, now we're getting to what a definition is, right?

06:17:45.080 Sure.

06:17:45.460 And that's the distinction between an empty label and a definition.

06:17:48.760 When you say that's a guitar, at least I can point to what that is. 0.61

06:17:52.820 When you say anything I point to is a guitar, that tells me fucking nothing about what a 0.97

06:17:57.280 guitar is. 0.88

06:17:57.820 So are we so simple minded in 2025 that if we don't have a distinct description for a

06:18:04.380 person, their sexuality, their preferences, if we can't define it, it's not right.

06:18:10.760 If we can't define, oh no, no, I listened to you for a long time.

06:18:13.360 Okay, go ahead.

06:18:13.800 If we can't define it, it's wrong.

06:18:16.080 If we can't define it, it's confusing.

06:18:18.040 If we can't define it, it's not scientific.

06:18:20.380 There are a lot of things in science and biology and history and art that are undefinable.

06:18:25.100 You cannot define a person.

06:18:28.720 And honestly, just blatantly speaking, people like you do not have a seat at the table because

06:18:34.280 it's not for you.

06:18:35.000 We're the only ones who have the seat at the table.

06:18:36.560 That table is just for y'all.

06:18:38.980 But I would think that I know that the people who are on the rainbow spectrum, we don't care. 1.00

06:18:47.600 But y'all do.

06:18:48.940 And it's interesting because I feel all I hear behind it to me is we don't understand y'all,

06:18:54.360 so we feel threatened.

06:18:55.620 No, no.

06:18:56.200 Why?

06:18:56.840 What are you threatened by? 1.00

06:18:57.680 Does my fake penis really do something that big to the male ego? 1.00

06:19:04.300 Does my strap really do that? 1.00

06:19:06.380 I guess it does.

06:19:07.660 You do understand us.

06:19:09.000 It sounds to me like you're saying you do understand us and we feel threatened by that.

06:19:14.400 I feel like you have to define us.

06:19:17.460 Why do you have to define us?

06:19:18.580 Well, here's the thing.

06:19:19.340 It has to be the case.

06:19:20.820 Does it?

06:19:21.380 Yeah, logic.

06:19:22.740 You can't beat logic.

06:19:23.880 You can't put logic to love and human experience.

06:19:26.240 You can't put logic.

06:19:28.000 It's unquantifiable.

06:19:28.600 Right.

06:19:28.940 Logic is the one thing you can't ever refuse.

06:19:31.880 Is love logical?

06:19:33.040 Yes.

06:19:33.300 Have you experienced love?

06:19:34.120 Actually, love is logical.

06:19:35.540 Yes.

06:19:35.740 Or is it emotional?

06:19:36.800 It can be.

06:19:37.880 No, it's not can be.

06:19:39.120 It is logical.

06:19:40.140 No, we just ran the experiment.

06:19:41.680 It is logical.

06:19:42.820 No, no, no.

06:19:43.360 We just ran the experiment in front of everyone here based on swipes.

06:19:48.980 There's no logic in a swipe.

06:19:50.800 You get a five, six second, oh, I like that.

06:19:54.160 I don't like that.

06:19:54.880 I like what I see.

06:19:55.600 I don't like what I see.

06:19:56.860 And then you get into the deeper parts of that person.

06:19:58.720 Hang on.

06:19:58.840 Let me respond.

06:19:59.600 Let me respond.

06:20:00.260 Let me respond.

06:20:01.240 Actually, there is.

06:20:02.380 Not only is there a logic to it, but the whole reason we're having the discussion is about

06:20:06.600 the logic of it.

06:20:07.940 Oh, dating?

06:20:08.360 Just because if you say, well, what happens, Andrew, is that there's an influx of emotion

06:20:15.580 which, based on these emotions, humans have interactive experiences where they swipe left,

06:20:20.920 swipe right, blah, blah, blah, blah.

06:20:22.000 Well, that's within the compliance of logic.

06:20:24.700 There's absolutely nothing illogical about that.

06:20:27.640 Saying, I have emotions, therefore I act on emotions, logically follows.

06:20:32.080 There is nothing illogical about that.

06:20:34.360 There is, however, something highly illogical about giving an empty label to a definition

06:20:41.660 of a thing you're trying to describe.

06:20:43.960 That's completely illogical.

06:20:46.460 I don't think the label can't, I mean, I don't know the history of it.

06:20:49.700 We're not talking about labels, we're talking about defining a thing so that it can be even

06:20:55.120 understood.

06:20:56.140 At the end of the day, I don't care what the person, who the person I'm interacting with,

06:21:02.100 whatever their label or definition for themself is, that's great for them.

06:21:06.860 So would it be fair to say you don't care about logic?

06:21:09.420 I don't care about descriptors and definitions of humans.

06:21:13.620 So can you even have logical interactions without descriptors?

06:21:17.040 Heck yeah.

06:21:17.580 How?

06:21:17.820 And if you can't, then that means a lot to be said for you.

06:21:20.180 Is there a single thing that you can logically express without a descriptor?

06:21:23.060 All words are descriptors.

06:21:24.780 Yeah.

06:21:26.360 Feelings are descriptors, too.

06:21:27.220 Aren't all words descriptors?

06:21:28.600 Yeah, but how do you describe feelings?

06:21:30.380 With words.

06:21:31.060 Yeah, exactly.

06:21:31.780 So all words are descriptors.

06:21:33.960 When you say feelings, you're describing something.

06:21:36.200 I don't think we, I think our disconnect is, I'm not disagreeing with you as far as there

06:21:41.160 are labels, there are definitions.

06:21:42.960 I'm not talking about labels.

06:21:44.300 There are words to describe people.

06:21:46.180 There are scientific terms and things to describe genitalia.

06:21:51.220 None of that's false.

06:21:52.960 1,000% with you.

06:21:54.780 I think my personal standpoint on that is none of that matters to those that it doesn't matter

06:22:01.420 to.

06:22:01.700 But to those that it does, that's great.

06:22:03.720 is there, if you want to quantify that information and use it in your dating experience, like

06:22:09.960 by all means.

06:22:10.860 But for me as a person, the first thing I'm asking or looking for when I swipe left or 0.99

06:22:17.200 right or talk to a person is not, is your vagina cervical or biological? 1.00

06:22:22.700 It just isn't. 0.98

06:22:23.380 But this doesn't answer the question, like, how come I'm not black?

06:22:26.840 I don't know.

06:22:27.640 You have to ask your mom that.

06:22:28.920 You don't know why I'm not black? 0.84

06:22:30.800 Mm-mm.

06:22:31.320 You don't know?

06:22:32.180 No. 0.76

06:22:32.700 I just want you to look me in the eyes and say, I don't know why you're not black. 0.91

06:22:36.140 I don't want to get, like, surgery to present as black either that I know of. 1.00

06:22:40.960 Yes, you can.

06:22:42.400 African-American?

06:22:43.280 Yes, you can.

06:22:45.340 And did Michael Jackson get surgery?

06:22:47.680 Yeah.

06:22:48.340 He became white.

06:22:49.800 Yeah, but did he get surgery also?

06:22:51.660 Yes.

06:22:52.060 And so the thing is, is like, if I could get surgery, that would make my skin look like

06:22:57.600 your skin.

06:22:58.380 Mm-hmm. 0.66

06:22:58.620 Am I black?

06:22:59.860 That depends.

06:23:00.780 Do I care?

06:23:01.820 No.

06:23:02.520 I mean, I...

06:23:03.740 That is my question about whether you care or if I am black.

06:23:06.680 It kind of is, because if you ask the person who really debated that kind of thing with

06:23:11.160 people and that kind of stuff mattered, of course, they'd have an opinion and they'd

06:23:14.800 have an answer, but...

06:23:15.480 So you have no opinion on if I bleached or in some way changed my skin to be black, would 0.93

06:23:22.480 I be black?

06:23:23.120 Your experience of blackness, authentic or not, biological or not, is yours. 0.97

06:23:30.120 My authentic experience of blackness is mine.

06:23:32.960 And your experience as a newly...

06:23:36.140 Would I be black or not?

06:23:38.440 That's not up to me.

06:23:39.560 No.

06:23:40.020 He just doesn't answer any.

06:23:41.480 He just don't answer questions.

06:23:42.800 This is the biggest problem with this whole ideology, right?

06:23:45.480 It's like, you can't answer a single question.

06:23:49.860 You go...

06:23:50.620 I'm not even asking the question.

06:23:51.240 You just go like this.

06:23:52.040 You just go like this.

06:23:52.760 You just go, maybe.

06:23:55.260 And it's like, it tells us nothing about anything.

06:23:58.380 It just literally tells...

06:23:59.100 Because we don't care.

06:23:59.840 I think it's only our age group and up.

06:24:01.800 There's really like...

06:24:03.020 I feel like you're saying...

06:24:03.620 There's nothing to get.

06:24:05.720 There's nothing to get.

06:24:07.100 No, I'm...

06:24:07.780 What I'm saying is objectively true.

06:24:09.860 And what she's saying is objectively nothing. 0.53

06:24:12.520 So when you're saying if you suddenly got a surgery and became black tomorrow, would 0.68

06:24:17.520 you be considered black by everybody? 0.91

06:24:20.300 And the thing...

06:24:21.620 No, that's not what I'm asking.

06:24:23.600 Would you be seen as black? 0.86

06:24:25.160 Nope. 0.54

06:24:25.520 That's not what I'm asking either.

06:24:26.600 So if we're relating it back to gender...

06:24:31.340 What am I asking?

06:24:32.160 Start with this. 0.99

06:24:33.380 Before you strawman the entire position to fuck it all up. 0.98

06:24:36.560 What am I asking? 0.98

06:24:37.540 What am I asking?

06:24:38.680 We started with gender, didn't we?

06:24:40.320 Stop spurging.

06:24:41.060 Stop spurging.

06:24:42.240 And just answer my question.

06:24:43.340 What am I actually asking?

06:24:44.800 And then I'll tell you, if it's wrong, what I'm actually asking.

06:24:48.360 Would you be considered...

06:24:49.980 No.

06:24:50.180 Or seen as black?

06:24:51.160 Nope. 0.94

06:24:51.420 He's just asking, is he black?

06:24:53.520 I'm not asking about perception.

06:24:56.900 I'm not asking about any of that.

06:24:58.200 Would you be?

06:24:58.580 I'm asking, would I be?

06:25:01.620 So let me ask you this again. 0.99

06:25:03.320 That's why I don't allow people to strawman my position with bullshit. 0.95

06:25:07.060 If I were to somehow go through and get all of my skin reconstructed to look exactly like 0.99

06:25:14.260 hers, would I actually be black or not?

06:25:17.880 In my opinion, no.

06:25:19.260 Okay.

06:25:19.980 Thank you.

06:25:20.720 That's why I don't...

06:25:22.000 That's right.

06:25:22.420 Can we go back to gender real quick?

06:25:23.140 That's it.

06:25:23.680 No, no.

06:25:24.160 That's it.

06:25:24.760 Okay.

06:25:25.180 The whole debate right now, what you just did was you demonstrated how illogical the entire

06:25:30.840 position is of saying, but if I presented as a woman, you would be. 0.99

06:25:35.020 That's fucking absurd by your own logic now. 0.99

06:25:38.000 But if you're dating, how would we know that you're not biologically black? 0.99

06:25:41.620 I want to go off of your point with that statement in regards to gender and kind of mapping it

06:25:48.960 onto each other.

06:25:50.000 If you decided tomorrow to become a woman and you didn't have the experiences of a lifetime

06:25:55.940 of being a woman, I...

06:25:57.580 Like no man does?

06:25:58.540 Yeah.

06:25:59.120 I, as a cisgender woman...

06:26:00.140 So then no man could become a woman? 0.93

06:26:01.860 I'm going with your point here that I would be upset.

06:26:05.120 So then no man can become a woman, can they? 1.00

06:26:06.940 It's for me now.

06:26:11.060 Yeah, no.

06:26:11.840 Exactly.

06:26:12.520 For me now.

06:26:12.720 All right.

06:26:13.280 I'm good.

06:26:13.700 I'm going to go off and smoke.

06:26:14.920 And I feel like the whole argument kind of takes away from cisgender women kind of rallying

06:26:22.440 together almost for a certain type of feminism. 1.00

06:26:25.540 Hold on.

06:26:25.840 Well, you asked why this matters.

06:26:28.960 Yeah.

06:26:29.300 Why this matters.

06:26:30.360 I'd like to give you three reasons.

06:26:31.900 All right.

06:26:32.060 And you might not agree with the gravitas of why this would be important, but I...

06:26:38.040 Can I ask also, why does it matter and who does it matter to?

06:26:41.360 It may be part of your answer, but I think that's important.

06:26:43.280 Yeah.

06:26:43.540 So I think the first one I'll give you will matter to everybody.

06:26:48.280 Okay.

06:26:48.980 And that's the truth.

06:26:51.220 That is the reason?

06:26:52.200 The truth is the...

06:26:52.800 So that would matter to everyone.

06:26:54.460 And that's the first reason I would give you as to why it matters.

06:26:58.080 Truth.

06:27:02.060 So are we speaking in terms of like you're dating someone...

06:27:05.300 I'm speaking about the truth.

06:27:06.380 I'm speaking of the truth.

06:27:08.220 Not your truth.

06:27:08.840 Not my truth.

06:27:09.920 The truth.

06:27:10.580 The truth of the matter.

06:27:12.120 In terms of dating though, right?

06:27:13.340 Or are we just talking about generally speaking?

06:27:15.140 No, I'm speaking about that males can't become female.

06:27:21.020 Males, like, that's... 1.00

06:27:23.760 Biologically.

06:27:24.380 Well, I'm not even...

06:27:26.080 Look, I don't think you can...

06:27:28.740 I'm willing to grant that within the ideology, I guess it's accept you can change your gender.

06:27:37.580 But I link gender and it's irremovable from sex in my worldview. 0.85

06:27:44.940 Sure.

06:27:45.140 So in my worldview, a man can't become a woman. 0.99

06:27:49.400 And a transgender woman is a transgender woman, but she's not a woman. 0.95

06:27:54.960 Sure.

06:27:55.500 Because to me, in my worldview, woman is linked to sex and it's irremovable. 0.93

06:28:02.020 I don't think any of us disagree with that.

06:28:03.740 Now, the second thing is, is that, since it's a dating podcast, I'll relate it to dating.

06:28:10.220 I think that, one, transgender women have a duty to disclose to potential romantic partners.

06:28:17.680 Agreed.

06:28:18.100 Because, one, I think it would be good for their own safety.

06:28:21.520 Yes.

06:28:21.860 So if you're a transgender woman and you're trying to date a, I don't like this term, a

06:28:26.140 cis man, for your own safety, you should disclose beforehand so that they can choose

06:28:32.980 whether, perhaps for them, they don't want to date a transgender woman for their own

06:28:36.940 safety.

06:28:37.300 I think they should disclose.

06:28:38.600 But if we start getting into too deep into, well, transgender women are women and this

06:28:44.260 is non-negotiable, then it's like, okay, well, what is the, do regular women have to disclose 0.97

06:28:49.780 to men?

06:28:50.380 By the way, I'm not a transgender woman.

06:28:52.400 So we get into this kind of murky territory where there's less of a duty for transgender women

06:29:00.980 to disclose.

06:29:01.660 They might even feel like, no, it's actually perfectly acceptable for me to essentially

06:29:06.500 trick men into sleeping with me.

06:29:09.940 Right.

06:29:10.360 Uh, so I think they have a duty to disclose.

06:29:12.840 And then also related to dating, what of, if I, as a man don't want to date a transgender 1.00

06:29:18.940 woman, am I, if, if the narratives allow to fully manifest itself, manifest themselves

06:29:27.140 as it relates to this ideology, what kind of social repercussions are there when I have

06:29:33.480 a preference towards not dating transgender women?

06:29:36.040 But if on a long enough timeline, it becomes determined.

06:29:40.680 Like if, if the greater right now, there's a massive culture war related to this issue,

06:29:46.620 but let's say I'm in the minority one day, you know, and maybe the, the leftists, the

06:29:52.720 LGBTQ activists, they went on the culture war. 0.80

06:29:55.420 And 90% of people are like, that's a transgender woman.

06:29:58.900 And you can't ask them if they're transgender. 0.96

06:30:00.620 And if you don't sleep with them, you're a bigot. 0.98

06:30:03.120 And what do bigots deserve? 1.00

06:30:04.900 Bigots deserve violence. 0.99

06:30:06.660 Bigots deserve to lose their jobs. 1.00

06:30:08.740 Bigots deserve. 0.94

06:30:10.000 So, so.

06:30:11.260 Yeah.

06:30:12.000 Bigots deserve all kinds of repercussions, both social and sometimes when it comes to

06:30:16.900 violence. 0.97

06:30:17.620 Isn't that what transgender people have been getting for tens? 0.96

06:30:20.820 Sure.

06:30:21.140 I'll go ahead and grant.

06:30:21.900 So the tables turn and now we're upset.

06:30:23.940 Well, hold on.

06:30:24.780 I don't think that's.

06:30:25.440 Well, I don't want violence either.

06:30:26.480 Right.

06:30:26.800 Violence either way.

06:30:27.720 I don't think that's fair, but I don't think people should be subject to violence.

06:30:31.820 No.

06:30:32.120 Correct.

06:30:32.380 For their dating preferences.

06:30:33.860 Right.

06:30:34.120 But I could see some sort of scenario in the future where if somebody does have a stated

06:30:39.100 preference of not wanting to date somebody who's transgender, if that is bigotry, if we're

06:30:44.680 using that metric as big, bigotry, people are happy to enact violence to against bigotry.

06:30:53.200 And then, and then, so that's the second thing.

06:30:55.360 Hang on.

06:30:55.640 Before you get into this, I want to bid the whatever podcast ado.

06:31:01.140 Wait, Andrew.

06:31:01.560 I brought in.

06:31:04.620 Hang on.

06:31:05.380 Hang on.

06:31:05.860 I brought in tons of great viewers.

06:31:08.340 Hang on.

06:31:08.780 Tons of cash tonight.

06:31:10.140 I got to be fresh tomorrow for a debate break.

06:31:12.140 Got to be fresh tomorrow.

06:31:13.480 What if Mary goes and gets me now? 0.92

06:31:14.760 It has nothing to do with that.

06:31:16.040 I got to be fresh.

06:31:16.700 That's fair.

06:31:17.040 That's a pretty good.

06:31:17.740 And fresh for a debate tomorrow.

06:31:19.000 I appreciate.

06:31:19.780 Andrew.

06:31:20.340 Can I.

06:31:21.020 Brian.

06:31:21.520 Here my pitch.

06:31:22.280 Here my pitch.

06:31:22.820 There's no pitch.

06:31:23.720 This right here.

06:31:24.260 This right here.

06:31:24.780 This right here.

06:31:24.880 Are you going to delay the debate for tomorrow?

06:31:27.100 Okay.

06:31:27.480 See you later, Brian.

06:31:28.120 Wait.

06:31:28.580 Guys.

06:31:29.200 All of you.

06:31:29.880 Wait, Andrew.

06:31:30.720 I might be able to delay.

06:31:32.840 Actually, no. 1.00

06:31:33.460 Fuck this. 1.00

06:31:33.600 Yeah. 1.00

06:31:33.880 No.

06:31:34.220 You're not going to delay.

06:31:34.880 That's fine.

06:31:35.280 That's fine.

06:31:35.380 All right.

06:31:35.640 I got to get some sleep.

06:31:36.820 Everybody out there.

06:31:37.580 Everybody out there at the whatever chat.

06:31:41.400 Thank you so much for having me this fine evening.

06:31:44.440 I appreciated talking to all of you fine women. 0.74

06:31:47.380 I take nothing personally.

06:31:49.000 I've never taken anything personally.

06:31:50.600 We're here to debate worldviews and talk about dating.

06:31:54.180 And I really, truly appreciate it.

06:31:55.760 All of you have.

06:31:56.680 She's going to clip. 1.00

06:31:57.760 Sorry.

06:31:57.960 What?

06:31:59.140 She's going to be like, I made him rage quit.

06:32:01.100 Go ahead.

06:32:03.500 It's all love, bro.

06:32:04.500 That's all.

06:32:04.840 I won.

06:32:05.440 Didn't mean to interrupt her.

06:32:06.340 Goodbye.

06:32:06.760 Sorry.

06:32:07.020 Go ahead.

06:32:07.580 You're really trying really hard here, Brian.

06:32:09.780 Have a wonderful night, my friend.

06:32:11.200 Have a wonderful night, ladies.

06:32:12.620 Take good care of you.

06:32:13.100 Good night, Andrew.

06:32:13.660 Great meeting you.

06:32:14.740 I will see you tomorrow, Andrew.

06:32:16.400 Seethe, Brian. 0.99

06:32:17.140 Fucking seethe, Brian. 0.99

06:32:18.500 Seethe, Brian. 1.00

06:32:21.720 Honestly, just scoot it down one chair.

06:32:23.660 All right.

06:32:24.400 So I was saying the third point, the third point on this is laws.

06:32:30.900 And I'll just ask a simple question on this.

06:32:32.420 Then we'll move on to a different topic.

06:32:34.740 So the first is truth.

06:32:36.040 The second is like dating.

06:32:37.080 Dating podcast.

06:32:38.780 Do you think that we should criminalize, say, if you were a dictator, like, do you think

06:32:45.880 misgendering, for example?

06:32:48.320 Intentional.

06:32:48.900 Intentional.

06:32:49.380 So somebody refuses to acknowledge, so somebody's pronouns, it's a transgender woman, and she, my pronouns are, I want to be referred to her as a she or her.

06:32:59.960 But somebody, excuse me, ideologically differs from her view.

06:33:06.540 And thinks, that's not a woman, and refuses to use the pronouns and says, you're a he, you're a him.

06:33:14.920 Do you think that this should face, if used in certain circumstances, should face criminal punishment or some sort of punishment?

06:33:23.720 Not necessarily, I guess.

06:33:25.720 Not necessarily, I guess.

06:33:26.880 I mean, it's hate.

06:33:28.900 I mean, I don't know.

06:33:29.980 It's hate?

06:33:30.860 How's it hate?

06:33:31.680 Okay.

06:33:31.800 You're saying they're purposely not using the correct pronouns, or they did on accident?

06:33:39.520 Intentionally.

06:33:40.240 Not using the correct pronouns.

06:33:41.760 But not in a rude way.

06:33:44.300 You might say it's rude on the surface already, but not like, like, not in a mocking or condescending way, but like, in the same way that they would say it's a she, says he.

06:33:58.060 You're this person's, like, are you over this person in a place of hierarchy?

06:34:01.740 Like, you're their boss, and this person is...

06:34:03.580 It could be any scenario.

06:34:05.100 But they're not, they're not like, like, intention, when I say intentional, they're not intentionally being condescending or rude about it.

06:34:13.040 They're just like, this is what I believe.

06:34:14.920 I'm not saying it in like a snarky way.

06:34:17.440 It's just like, Felicity, that's a she. 1.00

06:34:21.400 But if she thinks she's a he, I'm just, I'm not like, oh, she's, she's great. 1.00

06:34:29.020 If that makes sense.

06:34:30.060 If you're her boss, I think then you have an obligation to your employee to use the pronouns that they are choosing.

06:34:37.160 If you're her friend or something, I mean, she can't really do anything or have any backlash towards you.

06:34:43.040 But if you're the dictator, if you were the dictator, right?

06:34:45.080 That's already in itself a problem, but okay.

06:34:48.560 Would you pass a law criminalizing intentional misgendering?

06:34:54.260 Depends on who the law is for.

06:34:56.260 Bosses and CEOs and people of power?

06:34:59.040 Sure.

06:34:59.520 I mean, they haven't...

06:35:00.880 Okay.

06:35:01.480 But like me and you, if I called you a he, I mean, I'd hope you wouldn't sue me. 1.00

06:35:05.340 No, I wouldn't care.

06:35:06.800 No criminalizing on this one for me.

06:35:08.640 No criminalizing.

06:35:09.380 The mean streets of Santa Barbara.

06:35:11.840 Oh, yeah.

06:35:12.360 Oh, God.

06:35:13.120 Brutal, brutal.

06:35:13.720 It's crazy.

06:35:13.980 It's wild out here.

06:35:17.920 Incriminization can be like a fine or are you talking about like jail time?

06:35:21.320 Well, let's start with just a fine.

06:35:23.320 It's a $500 fine to misgender.

06:35:27.060 No.

06:35:27.400 I misgender people about, well, I guess mistake. 0.55

06:35:29.580 Yeah.

06:35:30.000 There's mistakes and stuff.

06:35:31.180 I say no.

06:35:32.440 Clearly intentional.

06:35:33.560 So here would be the example.

06:35:34.520 Still no.

06:35:34.820 The person says, here are my pronouns.

06:35:38.400 And the person refuses to use them and says, he, you know, he instead of she.

06:35:43.700 Yeah.

06:35:43.980 No criminalizing.

06:35:45.460 Intentionally.

06:35:46.040 Should that be criminalized?

06:35:48.120 Should there be a fine?

06:35:49.040 No.

06:35:49.400 No.

06:35:50.900 Me and you standing on the balcony.

06:35:53.020 I tell you I'm a he.

06:35:54.060 You continue to call me a she.

06:35:55.720 No fine.

06:35:56.480 Me and you sitting right here on this podcast live.

06:35:59.420 And I have said to this group, I identify as a he, him.

06:36:03.140 And you continue to call me she, her, you're getting sued.

06:36:06.880 That's all it is to it.

06:36:09.000 Oh, yeah.

06:36:09.260 But that's different.

06:36:10.280 And that's different than like criminalizing.

06:36:11.920 Then it's like you're in libel, slander.

06:36:14.020 Yeah.

06:36:14.240 You're civil.

06:36:15.100 That wouldn't be libel or slander.

06:36:16.920 What would be, what would it be?

06:36:18.300 But yeah.

06:36:18.820 But essentially that's a civil case.

06:36:20.200 Right.

06:36:20.560 So are you in favor of civil penalties for.

06:36:23.900 Well, that's on the individual.

06:36:25.840 In that situation, like, cause it's a whole thing with IDs and passports.

06:36:29.760 Now, like, do they have to have it legally put on their stuff that they are that gender? 0.82

06:36:35.740 Or are they, cause that's, if it's legal and there's legal ramifications, then you could

06:36:41.020 just change it back.

06:36:42.360 Like tomorrow.

06:36:43.520 Why is sex on our, like why at this point, or is sex even on our IDs and stuff?

06:36:49.100 We don't need to know if you're male. 0.99

06:36:50.100 But should there be like a fine for misgendering?

06:36:53.300 I don't think you could bring it into law because like I was saying, there's stuff with IDs.

06:36:58.660 It's like, people don't automatically just change those legal documents.

06:37:04.040 Okay.

06:37:04.600 Yeah.

06:37:05.420 It's murky, but I think that there should be.

06:37:07.380 You can't get a fine for name calling.

06:37:09.360 Huh?

06:37:09.640 No.

06:37:09.760 What do you think?

06:37:10.240 No, I don't think there shouldn't, there shouldn't be a fine.

06:37:13.100 What do you think?

06:37:13.940 No, fine.

06:37:14.540 Well, what about this?

06:37:16.260 High school students.

06:37:18.060 So their classmates, right?

06:37:19.360 That would be a new context.

06:37:21.120 Should there be like maybe a detention for a misgendering, intentional misgendering?

06:37:27.000 Or should there be, maybe if they repeat it three times, should there be a suspension?

06:37:32.020 No, I think it depends on the person.

06:37:33.700 That person knows that they're causing harm.

06:37:35.360 So it's not even about the misgendering.

06:37:37.120 It's about that you're intentionally trying to cause someone harm.

06:37:40.020 So there should be a repercussion if you're, especially if you're in school.

06:37:43.280 Yeah.

06:37:43.380 But you would just make the reverse argument that by them using, like if it's just totally

06:37:49.560 separate, maybe they're religious.

06:37:50.920 You would be causing the individual harm because they're causing them self-harm by lying.

06:37:57.280 If they think it's lying, if they don't think it's the truth, then you're inflicting harm

06:38:02.140 on them.

06:38:02.800 It does no harm for you to say he, she, they, or them to a person.

06:38:07.800 I think then we're playing the victim.

06:38:09.440 There's that playing the victim on that.

06:38:11.540 For his argument, he thinks it's lying and people are against lying. 0.99

06:38:14.100 You can justify a lot of crazy shit if you go into other people's business and go, you 0.97

06:38:18.400 said this thing and I'm offended by it, which is what we don't like. 0.99

06:38:21.780 I'm offended by everything.

06:38:23.720 You said this, you're making me do this.

06:38:26.080 So yeah, no fines.

06:38:28.100 Okay.

06:38:28.340 Uh, okay, but, um, intentional harm is intentional harm.

06:38:34.460 Like she said, if you know that a person has stated to you legally, otherwise I identify

06:38:40.540 as such what harm, whether you believe it or not, it doesn't matter if they want to sit

06:38:45.060 there and be a potato, let them be a potato. 0.63

06:38:47.120 You're not eating the potato.

06:38:48.840 You acknowledging that that person feels that way about themselves does nothing to you at

06:38:55.400 the end of the day.

06:38:56.020 It just does.

06:38:56.480 So usually if you don't like something, you just get away from them.

06:38:58.760 Someone's an a-hole.

06:38:59.760 You should just get away from them.

06:39:00.900 If someone's misgendering on purpose, just get away from it.

06:39:03.060 It's like dating.

06:39:04.520 Okay.

06:39:05.000 So there's probably scenarios where just for like the, like simplicity sake, some people

06:39:11.080 are really hard line with this.

06:39:12.580 Like if I'm just not interested, like in like a particular case offending somebody or I'm

06:39:19.140 just not like it doesn't, there's situations where I just don't care.

06:39:22.620 It doesn't matter.

06:39:23.360 I'd probably like go along with it just because like to avoid the situation.

06:39:28.420 There's probably situations where like if you're a student in college and your professor's

06:39:33.480 transgender, like that's probably like, you're probably going to have to bite the bullet just 1.00

06:39:37.640 for the sake of getting a good grade in the class, even if it's against your thought process.

06:39:41.760 But like I'm speaking, you know, outside of these, uh, outside of these specific instances, there are

06:39:50.020 situations where, or not rather not situations, but if we're having a conversation about the issue

06:39:55.880 itself and we're actually, well, is it a woman?

06:39:59.380 I, that's what we're talking about here.

06:40:01.400 We're, we're talking about the truth.

06:40:05.900 Yeah.

06:40:06.340 Whose truth?

06:40:06.740 Yours or that person?

06:40:07.640 No, I see.

06:40:08.180 Yeah.

06:40:08.500 I get what you're saying.

06:40:09.740 He's saying there to a certain degree, like we all have to live in the same society and

06:40:14.140 we all do to a certain point have to agree on what is the truth.

06:40:18.320 Yeah.

06:40:18.700 I don't think it's any different than what, like she had mentioned earlier.

06:40:21.640 If it's something you're just not in agreement with, or it's a situation that makes you

06:40:24.600 uncomfortable, get out of it.

06:40:25.940 Now, if it's like a work school situation, you guys, you got to learn to, to figure it

06:40:30.480 out.

06:40:30.840 Do I think it should be criminalized?

06:40:32.020 Probably not.

06:40:32.960 And what Brian's argument is, is that in the war going on between our society of people

06:40:40.400 who are in agreement and disagreement, let's say he's saying someone's in school, let's

06:40:45.600 say you have a super liberal principal.

06:40:47.560 And so they're like taking the side of the student who's trans or using like different

06:40:55.200 pronouns than they normally would.

06:40:57.700 So of course, like you're at a super liberal school, maybe they're siding with that student.

06:41:01.860 Whereas if you go to a more conservative school, they might be telling the other student,

06:41:06.660 like, hey, you're going through some sort of, like, it depends on the, the place you

06:41:12.480 are in society.

06:41:13.680 And like that, that is an issue I see long-term in society is that we have these two opposing

06:41:20.440 views and it is clashing.

06:41:23.240 And how do we come together?

06:41:23.980 By admitting that we're all human and our genitals do not matter. 0.54

06:41:28.080 At the end of the day, why, why do we even have, I'm not saying why do we have genders, 1.00

06:41:32.880 but why is it, who cares?

06:41:34.940 Like if you put in your resume, I shouldn't be worried about whether you're male, female,

06:41:39.140 or what you present.

06:41:39.820 You're a human being.

06:41:41.020 And I think when we come down to making those gender distinctions, that's why we're at war. 0.94

06:41:45.820 At the end of the day, we're all just humans.

06:41:48.840 It doesn't really, we, this is just us classifying each other. 0.97

06:41:53.220 Like, oh, I'm not going to respect you because the genitals you have don't match with your 1.00

06:41:56.640 pronouns.

06:41:57.200 At the end of the day, they're, they're a person, their experience matters.

06:42:00.820 And that's it.

06:42:01.820 It doesn't really matter what they have down there.

06:42:04.900 I mean, it just doesn't.

06:42:06.380 Yeah, no, no.

06:42:06.820 Or what they call it.

06:42:07.640 I would agree with that.

06:42:08.460 But I, I feel like, especially like in a, maybe a school or work situation, you're probably

06:42:13.040 going to talk to somebody more directly.

06:42:14.320 Hey, can you do this for me?

06:42:15.460 Not, hey, she, I think that there's, there's really only particular situations.

06:42:19.900 And I think that's why he's asking, if you're a dictator, would you criminalize this in some

06:42:23.540 for, and I, I think it almost, it's a slippery slope because then it comes down to belief.

06:42:29.140 Some people truly believe that gender and sex are the same thing where people see the

06:42:34.040 opposite.

06:42:34.520 So how do you criminalize that?

06:42:36.420 And then, then what's next?

06:42:37.820 Then is it religion?

06:42:39.020 Yeah.

06:42:39.480 You know what I mean?

06:42:40.340 So you'd have to criminalize ideology on that one.

06:42:42.440 Exactly.

06:42:42.920 Yeah.

06:42:43.340 And that's why people are scared because I think people who have that mindset that they,

06:42:48.680 them, the transgender people, you know, the non-binary is becoming more and more and more

06:42:54.420 prevalent.

06:42:55.180 And the people who don't identify with that way of life are, in my opinion, freaking out.

06:43:00.760 Like, how do we navigate these LGBTQIA people? 1.00

06:43:05.200 Just, just respect and love them just the way you would a non-LGBTQIA person.

06:43:09.920 And if those situations arise, address them with empathy and love.

06:43:14.420 This person says, yeah, he, they, whatever.

06:43:16.660 I don't really agree with it.

06:43:18.900 I'll call them that while I'm addressing them because that's how they feel.

06:43:22.820 But at the end of the day, I'll go home and still feel the same way.

06:43:25.920 Like, is you respecting that person going to change your mindset?

06:43:30.520 Obviously not.

06:43:31.640 So why not just give them that respect and empathy while you're addressing them, especially

06:43:36.200 if you're in a professional setting.

06:43:38.040 At the end of the day, they're just a human.

06:43:40.500 What they decide to call themselves should not matter to you and what you do with your

06:43:45.660 life.

06:43:46.040 It does matter to a certain group of people, though, who are trying to maintain a certain

06:43:51.800 order in society.

06:43:53.940 And are they right?

06:43:54.860 Are they wrong?

06:43:56.000 Personally, I'm not exactly sure.

06:43:58.320 But it does matter to them because if these wars between the cultures continue on, it's

06:44:08.240 just going to wreak havoc.

06:44:09.940 And I think part of, while conservatives have their own issues, I think part of the issue

06:44:15.280 that they're having with this is that they see these people as having a very severe mental 0.98

06:44:20.040 illness.

06:44:21.040 And while they can respect them as a person, they can't respect the mental illness of it 0.98

06:44:26.240 all.

06:44:26.500 So what do you do if a person has an illness?

06:44:28.280 You disrespect this.

06:44:29.440 And if it is, I wouldn't say you disrespect them, but also you don't go blindly with their

06:44:33.760 beliefs.

06:44:34.280 But if they're sick, then you disrespecting or not respecting their beliefs is not going

06:44:39.800 to heal them.

06:44:40.600 They're still going to.

06:44:41.200 I was saying earlier, you don't cause harm to people on purpose.

06:44:45.740 However, some people on the more conservative side would be saying, well, they're causing

06:44:51.380 me harm because they're being so mentally ill that it's becoming almost a hassle on society. 0.98

06:44:58.260 So do we sit there and say the same thing about obese people? 0.51

06:45:01.420 Some people do.

06:45:03.060 For the sake of time, I've got to move it on.

06:45:06.520 We have one chat here from Lulu.

06:45:09.780 If this would actually work.

06:45:11.680 Thank you, Lulu.

06:45:14.240 Lulu donated $200.

06:45:17.220 Trans sympathizers are basically willing to bend truth and logic for the sake of trans 0.97

06:45:21.980 people's feelings.

06:45:23.680 Chair 2, do you think that making choices based on feelings and emotions is wise for society?

06:45:30.260 I do.

06:45:30.980 I believe that using your human instincts and treating people with love and respect is how

06:45:39.640 we are going to survive as a race, not by describing each other's genitals or using pronouns.

06:45:47.380 I think at the end of the day, none of that will matter to the success of the human race

06:45:53.180 is whether you're they, them, trans or what.

06:45:56.020 I think that us as a people supporting and loving each other and having community, that's

06:46:00.980 it.

06:46:01.860 All right.

06:46:03.000 I'd be more than happy to engage further in it, but we've got a bit more to get through,

06:46:07.260 so I'm going to have to move it on.

06:46:08.260 Guys, we've lowered the TTS.

06:46:11.580 This is going to be the roast threshold, so if you guys are holding out for the $29 TTSs,

06:46:17.960 we're just going to do $69 TTS, and that'll be the roast session, and then we'll wrap.

06:46:24.800 So don't hold out for the 30s because 69, that's going to be the end of it.

06:46:30.140 So let's see here.

06:46:32.000 Oh, let's do, you know, that was kind of a heavy topic.

06:46:34.340 Let's do the AI stuff.

06:46:35.380 That'll be fun.

06:46:35.820 All right, so we have age-advanced, all of you here.

06:46:41.880 I saw a little summer living pictures.

06:46:44.520 I'm so excited for this.

06:46:47.440 All right, go ahead and pull it up. 0.99

06:46:50.340 It's going to be so dumb. 0.98

06:46:52.280 Okay. 0.98

06:46:53.200 Is the first picture of this movie what I look like today?

06:46:56.680 When did you pose for this?

06:46:58.660 It was when I did the story.

06:46:59.720 Oh, okay.

06:47:00.840 I'm like, when did we do this? 1.00

06:47:02.020 Oh, shit. 1.00

06:47:03.060 I was goofy. 1.00

06:47:04.080 I'm kind of like goofy as a look. 0.54

06:47:05.760 I know I made a grandma.

06:47:06.940 Yeah.

06:47:07.300 I'm so sad.

06:47:09.740 Nice.

06:47:10.280 Okay.

06:47:10.720 All right.

06:47:11.120 There you go.

06:47:11.220 You look like a fun grandma.

06:47:12.420 All right.

06:47:12.840 You look good.

06:47:13.540 Right.

06:47:15.220 And then whoever is doing these, I think we've done some adjustments.

06:47:21.340 Mara and the Discord, thank you.

06:47:23.340 I think so far, that one looks a bit better than usual.

06:47:26.460 Usually, it goes a bit, the AI goes overboard with it.

06:47:29.300 So, well done.

06:47:30.520 All right.

06:47:31.080 Next.

06:47:31.480 What are the age differences?

06:47:32.760 Oh, horrible.

06:47:33.780 Yeah.

06:47:34.560 Absolutely horrible.

06:47:37.160 So, this relates to our, like, will you look better in 10, 20, 30, 40 years?

06:47:39.720 Is that 10, 20?

06:47:40.800 There can't be 10, 20.

06:47:42.040 I don't know the exact breakdowns.

06:47:43.820 Okay.

06:47:44.880 All right.

06:47:45.620 There it is.

06:47:46.940 Next.

06:47:48.480 Aw.

06:47:50.380 You look sweet.

06:47:52.200 I'm not.

06:47:53.160 No kidding.

06:47:56.200 Except the compliment.

06:47:57.500 Thank you very much.

06:47:58.660 I am receiving that.

06:48:00.900 All right.

06:48:01.700 Next.

06:48:03.000 Oh, my God.

06:48:04.300 That was so scary.

06:48:06.180 Did the AI.

06:48:07.900 Wow.

06:48:08.640 You went from Asian to Latina. 0.71

06:48:11.300 I look like my grandmother.

06:48:13.080 I'm not going to lie.

06:48:13.900 You look like Janae Aiko.

06:48:16.200 I've had a couple people tell me that.

06:48:18.200 I think from a certain angle, maybe.

06:48:20.220 But, yeah.

06:48:20.620 She's actually more.

06:48:22.420 No idea.

06:48:23.180 She's Asian.

06:48:23.700 You should look her up, Ryan.

06:48:25.440 Next.

06:48:27.520 Not Asian gracefully. 1.00

06:48:29.800 Dang. 0.84

06:48:30.460 I'm chopped. 0.95

06:48:30.720 I hope you keep those piercing.

06:48:32.300 Chopped?

06:48:32.820 Did you just say chopped?

06:48:33.780 Yeah.

06:48:33.980 Yeah, I'm chopped.

06:48:35.400 Into the mic if you can.

06:48:37.820 Yeah, no.

06:48:38.260 That's horrible. 0.99

06:48:39.600 I hope I die before the age of 50. 0.99

06:48:41.180 Because, no. 0.97

06:48:41.760 No.

06:48:42.360 Oh, my gosh.

06:48:43.800 RIP me. 0.95

06:48:44.400 That's so extreme.

06:48:45.200 That's extreme.

06:48:46.000 It's only because you're a baby.

06:48:47.020 That's you at 98.

06:48:48.640 That last one.

06:48:50.420 All right.

06:48:51.660 Next.

06:48:53.140 Oh.

06:48:57.780 Oh, no.

06:48:59.060 Oh, you look so sweet.

06:49:01.060 Seriously.

06:49:03.640 All right.

06:49:04.400 I will buy whatever you're selling, is really what I'm seeing.

06:49:09.700 Ew.

06:49:11.500 Ew.

06:49:12.080 That was awful.

06:49:13.340 Ew.

06:49:14.120 Oh, my gosh.

06:49:16.560 It's not the worst, though.

06:49:18.320 Yeah, it is the worst.

06:49:19.260 It's not the worst.

06:49:19.780 It's not the worst.

06:49:20.440 It's actually, like, the second worst.

06:49:22.420 Yeah.

06:49:22.780 All right.

06:49:23.260 Here we go.

06:49:23.640 This is probably Andrew next. 0.99

06:49:26.300 Oh, darn. 0.99

06:49:27.160 Oh, my gosh. 1.00

06:49:28.200 Oh, my gosh.

06:49:28.260 Oh, my gosh. 1.00

06:49:28.480 Darn. 0.99

06:49:28.840 It would have been great. 1.00

06:49:30.040 Oh, wow.

06:49:30.940 He would have loved that.

06:49:31.940 All right.

06:49:32.200 Next.

06:49:32.520 Next.

06:49:33.780 Oh.

06:49:35.540 They used, like, an old.

06:49:37.680 That's an old photo.

06:49:39.120 That's kind of scary.

06:49:40.180 And why?

06:49:41.040 Oh, my gosh.

06:49:43.040 Thanks.

06:49:43.400 Thanks.

06:49:43.720 It's a really bright picture.

06:49:45.620 Yeah.

06:49:46.380 Lots of light.

06:49:47.620 Yeah.

06:49:48.300 A headshot?

06:49:50.180 Uh, no.

06:49:52.000 Your eyes don't look good.

06:49:52.640 I feel like I'd want to see you now with the beard and the AI do it.

06:49:57.420 Yeah.

06:49:58.540 Is there another one?

06:49:59.900 Or is it gender now?

06:50:01.900 Can we do it?

06:50:02.060 Gender.

06:50:02.520 All right.

06:50:03.260 Oh, God.

06:50:04.480 Before we do gender. 0.99

06:50:08.180 Oh, I've done this before.

06:50:09.260 They did this, me as a dude.

06:50:10.860 Oh, whoops.

06:50:11.320 Sorry, Lulu.

06:50:11.880 I'm going to change the threshold.

06:50:13.720 I'm not sure why that happened there.

06:50:15.980 One sec.

06:50:16.880 There's, like, five questions in one right now.

06:50:18.700 We're going to do boom.

06:50:19.800 Boom.

06:50:22.000 Yeah.

06:50:23.080 Sorry, Lulu's messing.

06:50:23.960 Lulu donated $69.

06:50:26.860 Share 2.

06:50:27.440 Do you think trans people should be allowed in women's sports? 1.00

06:50:30.980 What do you think about the girls or JK Rowling's that are against that?

06:50:35.760 Is there validity to their qualms?

06:50:38.240 Quick answer on this, if you can.

06:50:42.060 I'm not too versed on the JK Rowling things, other than, like, she's against or not, like, for trans people.

06:50:47.800 I would say I dated a trans woman very recently, and she was very biologically male, like, muscles and all.

06:50:56.400 I would think that, like, a person with that type of body, I wouldn't put them in a women's sport. 1.00

06:51:02.980 I would maybe put them in a different, like, maybe a sport for transgender women or have a league for just transgender women. 1.00

06:51:11.040 I think that's very circumstantial, though.

06:51:13.960 This person had, like, lots of muscles, though.

06:51:17.080 All right.

06:51:17.700 Let's do gender swap. 1.00

06:51:19.040 Let's do this.

06:51:20.440 Oh, yeah.

06:51:20.860 I love this.

06:51:22.500 I don't know.

06:51:25.640 By the way, Matt, I saw your chat.

06:51:27.340 Look, the thing is, is that it's funny when you're anonymous, sending in, like, insulting messages, like, making comments about, like, people's weight or their race or whatever.

06:51:37.380 But, like, if you're in a room with somebody, that's completely unacceptable and inappropriate.

06:51:43.820 And, like, sometimes they slide through accidentally.

06:51:47.340 And you can call me a simp if you want, man.

06:51:49.460 But there's just, like, a certain degree of these are guests here on the show.

06:51:54.020 And a lot of the, a lot of the, look, there's very few other YouTube channels, live streams, where they would ever allow through some of the chats that we do allow through.

06:52:09.340 And there's just some that are just, like, just strictly insults.

06:52:13.020 So, sometimes they get through, but we're not gonna, like, if you're just being egregiously insulting and you're not actually criticizing, like, anything that they're saying, it's just an insult.

06:52:27.960 Like, you can attack their, you can attack, you can attack their arguments, you can attack their ideology.

06:52:33.200 But if you're just, like, personal attacks, that's really not gonna fly.

06:52:39.480 And I don't know how else to say it, man.

06:52:42.480 I don't know else how to say it.

06:52:43.880 You guys can call me simps in the chat.

06:52:46.080 But it's just, and it's just, it's not conducive to, like, the topics that we talk about are already controversial to begin with.

06:52:54.820 And then, like, we're gonna throw on top of that, we're just gonna outright insult the guests.

06:52:59.860 That's never my goal.

06:53:01.460 Again, we're already having, like, uncomfortable conversations as it is.

06:53:06.320 I don't need the guests to feel further discomfort just by, by just getting straight up, like, insulted over, you know, like, race and stuff.

06:53:16.940 That's crazy, guys.

06:53:17.980 That's, that's crazy.

06:53:18.760 I'm not gonna allow it.

06:53:19.760 If you don't like that, I don't know what to tell you.

06:53:21.960 Um, and as far as the TTS, it's already very late.

06:53:25.920 We'll be here way too long if the roast is, uh, if the roast is lower.

06:53:31.660 So, um, yeah, because there's a ton more to get through.

06:53:34.940 So sometimes we don't always get to do, like, a roast session at the lower rate.

06:53:38.860 It is what it is.

06:53:40.000 It was a kind of a pretty, uh, hectic panel tonight.

06:53:43.080 So, uh, yeah.

06:53:44.900 That's integrity.

06:53:45.920 Thank you so much, because that's leadership right there.

06:53:48.180 That is amazing.

06:53:49.440 Yeah.

06:53:49.720 No, thank you.

06:53:50.420 You're setting boundaries. 0.99

06:53:50.820 I fucking love that. 1.00

06:53:51.960 That shit's so sexy. 1.00

06:53:54.940 It is. 1.00

06:53:57.460 Okay.

06:53:58.080 That kind of killed it.

06:54:01.020 Hey, uh.

06:54:03.240 Thank you.

06:54:04.760 Hey, I, I, Andrew was dunking on me today, so I'll take a comment.

06:54:07.400 Yeah, yeah.

06:54:08.540 Um, yeah, like, it's just, um, I don't know.

06:54:12.660 Uh, and sometimes, look, sometimes some comments get through and it's like, nah, that one's probably

06:54:16.380 a little on the fence or, uh, it's just like, guys, if you enjoy the, here, here's the best

06:54:23.500 way I could put it that I think people will be understanding of not wanting certain chats

06:54:28.880 to go through.

06:54:29.420 So, if we want to get guests on the show, like, and somebody is contemplating coming on the show who could be extremely entertaining for you and you'd want to hear either their arguments or you'd want to hear them debate against me, against Andrew, against somebody else.

06:54:48.040 It is not in furtherance and not conducive to securing guests for the show.

06:54:54.060 If somebody pulls up a stream and it's just like super chat after super chat of just straight up, like, racism and insults and all this stuff.

06:55:05.200 Uh, so if you guys want me to put on a good show, like, the actual content, like, the super chats are fun, but the content of the show is the conversations.

06:55:15.240 And trust me, guys, like, the amount of people, and the show's already walks the line, like I said, uh, there's plenty of people who we've had scheduled to be on the show or we've invited.

06:55:27.660 Well, I'll start with people who've been scheduled on the show.

06:55:30.800 The amount of people who flake as is just due to the nature of the conversations, but there's a component of, like, the super chats that makes people hesitant to come on the show.

06:55:40.540 So there's that.

06:55:42.060 It's already difficult enough as it is, guys, to, like, book guests to come on the show.

06:55:46.920 We're down to one show per week.

06:55:49.000 If it's really in terms of, uh, and I apologize for yapping here, guys, but, uh, I feel it's important to explain this to the audience.

06:55:59.220 Uh, it, we're already down to one show per week due to guest, uh, well, part of it's, there's a couple reasons, but one of it is difficulty with guest booking. 0.88

06:56:09.700 The super chats are fucking brutal.

06:56:13.240 People don't want to be associated with that. 0.99

06:56:15.140 They just don't.

06:56:16.240 Um, they don't want to be associated with it.

06:56:18.360 And so, um, I'm very supportive and, or I'm very grateful for people who do support the show via super chat and whatnot.

06:56:26.480 But I just, I gotta be considerate of the guests and I gotta be considerate of my own platform to ensure that I can continue to get guests for the show.

06:56:36.440 So it's anyways, that's it.

06:56:39.660 So, all right.

06:56:40.820 Just wanted to explain that.

06:56:42.220 Cause I saw Matt's chat.

06:56:43.400 So, um, we have Christopher here.

06:56:44.880 There's a video where a guy asked something like if it's illegal for men to use steroids and bodybuilding competitions, why isn't it?

06:56:51.000 Why isn't it?

06:56:52.080 Isn't, oh my God.

06:56:53.180 Sorry.

06:56:53.360 I'm still drunk.

06:56:54.020 Uh, why isn't it illegal for women to use makeup and beauty pageants? 1.00

06:56:58.360 Thought thoughts.

06:56:59.200 Quick answer on this from anybody.

06:57:00.900 That'd be an awesome pageant. 1.00

06:57:05.200 Nothing.

06:57:10.020 Yeah.

06:57:10.620 I think there should be two types of pages.

06:57:12.120 That's a good point though.

06:57:12.920 He's got Christopher's.

06:57:14.340 Yeah.

06:57:14.880 Very, very good point there.

06:57:16.620 Christopher.

06:57:17.240 Yeah.

06:57:17.620 Uh, okay.

06:57:18.040 So the next thing we're going to do here with the AI is a gender swap. 0.96

06:57:20.900 We're going to gender, we've gender swapped all of you. 1.00

06:57:22.780 So the question you're going to ask yourself is, would I date the male version of me?

06:57:28.860 Go ahead.

06:57:29.180 Pull it off.

06:57:29.600 Okay.

06:57:31.200 Oh, wow.

06:57:32.480 Interesting.

06:57:33.600 Wait, I need to see it again.

06:57:35.300 I need to see it.

06:57:37.140 Hmm.

06:57:39.240 Maybe.

06:57:40.420 Yeah.

06:57:40.880 I think I would.

06:57:41.660 I'd go on a date or two.

06:57:42.860 There you go.

06:57:43.480 Yeah.

06:57:43.660 All right.

06:57:44.760 Next.

06:57:46.960 With the purple hair.

06:57:48.520 With the purple hair.

06:57:52.780 I'm a lesbian.

06:57:55.520 But you've dated many.

06:57:56.520 Yes.

06:57:57.340 I'm sure.

06:57:57.920 I'd give me a shot.

06:57:58.800 Why not?

06:57:59.580 One date.

06:58:00.420 Next.

06:58:01.060 The goatee thing or whatever is not doing it.

06:58:02.600 Whoa.

06:58:03.140 Ha ha.

06:58:04.440 It's kind of hot.

06:58:06.000 Whoa.

06:58:06.800 Give her without the beard. 1.00

06:58:07.700 Felicity.

06:58:08.460 Give her without the beard. 1.00

06:58:09.640 If you have her transition, she's right. 1.00

06:58:11.240 She's right.

06:58:12.300 Hey.

06:58:13.620 Would you date the male version of you?

06:58:16.000 I'd give him a shot.

06:58:17.500 Which do you prefer?

06:58:18.220 The beard or no beard?

06:58:19.820 I think I like the beard, right?

06:58:21.740 Well, I don't know.

06:58:22.120 Let me ask her.

06:58:22.780 No beard.

06:58:23.100 No beard?

06:58:23.580 Wow.

06:58:23.900 I don't really like facial hair on guys usually.

06:58:25.480 Okay.

06:58:25.700 For her, I'm going no beard.

06:58:28.760 Okay.

06:58:29.440 All right.

06:58:30.880 Let's do next.

06:58:32.260 I was scared.

06:58:33.100 Oh, no.

06:58:33.580 Oh.

06:58:34.380 Wait.

06:58:34.580 You guys said yes.

06:58:35.640 I'm just not being my type.

06:58:36.940 Oh.

06:58:38.420 What?

06:58:38.900 You don't like Asian guys?

06:58:41.240 I didn't say that.

06:58:42.660 Wow.

06:58:42.940 I've just never dated an Asian guy.

06:58:44.880 I'm not going to lie.

06:58:45.620 Middle one looks like my brother.

06:58:46.480 Wait.

06:58:46.500 You've never dated an Asian guy?

06:58:47.500 I've gone on one first date with one Asian guy.

06:58:50.100 I think most Asian guys don't approach me.

06:58:52.060 Oh.

06:58:52.780 So I'll just put it that way.

06:58:54.380 Uh.

06:58:54.800 But I also don't go on a lot of dates.

06:58:56.280 Do you date like white guys, Latino guys?

06:58:59.320 Um.

06:58:59.520 Yeah.

06:58:59.780 I've dated a mix of white.

06:59:02.540 Black. 0.93

06:59:03.060 Hispanic. 0.76

06:59:04.060 Black. 0.93

06:59:04.660 A mix of all those.

06:59:06.000 So.

06:59:06.180 Who's the baby daddy?

06:59:08.360 Uh.

06:59:08.560 Half white, half Mexican.

06:59:09.900 Okay.

06:59:10.520 Got it.

06:59:11.100 Yeah.

06:59:11.680 Yeah.

06:59:11.700 All right.

06:59:12.360 Okay.

06:59:12.720 So is this a no?

06:59:13.720 Is this a no though?

06:59:15.560 Uh.

06:59:16.900 I don't know.

06:59:18.240 Sure.

06:59:19.140 First date.

06:59:19.640 Let's see where it goes.

06:59:20.300 All right.

06:59:20.680 I'm off.

06:59:21.220 Let's draw vibes.

06:59:22.720 No, you're blocked.

06:59:24.080 Yikes.

06:59:24.480 No, you're blocked.

06:59:26.460 Yikes.

06:59:26.740 No, you're blocked. 0.99

06:59:27.440 I look like I do drugs. 0.87

06:59:28.480 Oh. 0.97

06:59:29.880 No, you're blocked.

06:59:30.720 You're such a cute nerd.

06:59:31.960 I look like my friend.

06:59:36.180 I look like my best friend.

06:59:37.640 You look like a late bloomer.

06:59:39.120 You just need some time.

06:59:40.260 I know exactly who I look like and I know he's watching.

06:59:42.960 This looks just like you do.

06:59:44.560 Wow.

06:59:45.800 All right.

06:59:46.740 Next.

06:59:49.580 Oh, no.

06:59:50.700 I look terrible.

06:59:51.980 I would date you instead of myself.

06:59:53.880 Okay.

06:59:54.460 I'll take it.

06:59:55.840 You look like a professor.

06:59:57.460 No.

06:59:57.680 I think it matches.

06:59:59.440 But you look handsome.

07:00:01.200 Oh, thank you. 1.00

07:00:01.700 Oh, shit. 1.00

07:00:01.960 Yeah, you're the hotter one. 1.00

07:00:02.960 She's trying to.

07:00:04.460 I'd be short, though, even if I transitioned.

07:00:06.460 You can't fix the height.

07:00:07.240 I'm short anyway.

07:00:08.220 Are you okay with the arms?

07:00:09.780 You can love connections up here.

07:00:13.040 This isn't a matchmaking show?

07:00:14.820 Oh, yeah.

07:00:15.140 Wait.

07:00:16.000 Oh, boy.

07:00:16.740 Ew.

07:00:17.360 Bring up the other one, the pink one.

07:00:18.960 That one was better.

07:00:19.560 It's lost forever.

07:00:20.760 That one is ugly.

07:00:22.020 Wait, no.

07:00:22.620 No.

07:00:23.540 That's great.

07:00:24.560 I think the middle one looks like a K-pop. 0.99

07:00:26.560 The hair's all fucked up. 0.99

07:00:27.300 The bangs. 1.00

07:00:28.560 The bangs.

07:00:29.180 Men should not do bangs like that. 0.94

07:00:31.080 No.

07:00:31.180 That just doesn't work.

07:00:31.960 But that's just, he just got out of the shower.

07:00:34.260 Here, Felicity, cover the hair up. 1.00

07:00:36.900 Like, go like that.

07:00:37.820 Hold. 0.96

07:00:38.520 Yeah.

07:00:39.180 That's a cute white boy.

07:00:40.420 Yeah.

07:00:40.840 You know, just push the bangs back.

07:00:42.840 All right.

07:00:43.460 Next.

07:00:44.180 Yeah.

07:00:44.340 That's, oh, that's younger Andrew Wilson on the left.

07:00:48.020 I was like, who is that?

07:00:49.500 What is on the right?

07:00:50.680 Wait, on the right?

07:00:51.800 Yeah.

07:00:52.040 He's Asian all of a sudden. 1.00

07:00:53.080 How did he get younger Asian? 0.99

07:00:54.980 It's the age.

07:00:55.740 He's like, no, Waysian. 1.00

07:00:57.540 Waysian there.

07:00:59.640 Wait, what?

07:01:00.320 He looks attractive as an Asian.

07:01:02.700 As an Asian woman?

07:01:04.200 Waysian.

07:01:05.080 Waysian.

07:01:05.900 Yeah.

07:01:06.600 Okay.

07:01:07.140 Yeah, sure.

07:01:07.860 I don't know how they got there, but Andrew would love that one.

07:01:12.140 All right.

07:01:14.360 Next.

07:01:17.620 Oh, my gosh.

07:01:18.380 Oh, my God.

07:01:19.180 Are they?

07:01:20.300 What?

07:01:21.020 I don't think AI is doing the right thing.

07:01:25.240 Maybe it's getting confused with the beard.

07:01:27.360 A second homegirl with a little bit of filler. 0.99

07:01:29.280 Super cute.

07:01:30.000 I like the left one.

07:01:31.220 The left one's good.

07:01:32.400 Honestly, though.

07:01:33.400 That's what I'm saying.

07:01:33.900 Guys, tell me what you think about this.

07:01:35.340 So, the one on the right.

07:01:36.660 So, the transition from my beard to there.

07:01:39.000 Yeah.

07:01:39.440 Like, I got one of those.

07:01:45.720 Like, that's a model. 0.99

07:01:49.140 You know how models can be looking kind of like aliens and shit? 0.99

07:01:52.900 Not like a Victoria's Secret model, but like one of those. 0.99

07:01:56.780 Like a runway model.

07:01:57.840 No, like that makes a lot of money.

07:01:59.500 Does that, like, check out, I guess?

07:02:02.560 Yes.

07:02:03.160 Does that parse, I guess?

07:02:04.460 Yes.

07:02:04.940 Like, you have the features where it's like, oh, okay, wait, hold up.

07:02:07.900 I got to see the walk.

07:02:08.740 But then all of a sudden.

07:02:10.260 No, you take.

07:02:11.460 That girl takes a photo, and you're like, oh, my God. 1.00

07:02:14.180 If she's tall.

07:02:14.820 Like, you can't, like, she's hot, but ugly at the same time. 1.00

07:02:18.840 Model.

07:02:19.140 Yeah.

07:02:19.260 Like, you don't know.

07:02:20.300 Different.

07:02:20.860 Very different.

07:02:21.480 Like, alien looking chick.

07:02:23.840 Yeah.

07:02:24.540 I see.

07:02:25.020 Like, that's what the runway model.

07:02:27.220 They look for, like, unique features.

07:02:29.120 Yeah.

07:02:29.260 That's like something you can't find anywhere else.

07:02:30.680 That's a unique looking chick right there. 1.00

07:02:32.000 You're unique.

07:02:33.420 All right.

07:02:33.840 Christopher Murphy.

07:02:34.640 Thank you for the super chat.

07:02:35.380 Yeah.

07:02:35.540 Send it through, brother.

07:02:36.280 Send me a DM.

07:02:36.940 Thank you.

07:02:37.240 Thank you, brother.

07:02:37.800 Nice.

07:02:38.300 All right.

07:02:38.540 We have, uh, we have this coming.

07:02:42.540 Hold up.

07:02:43.780 Ang says, raw donated $69.

07:02:46.640 Appreciate you, man.

07:02:47.280 Thank you.

07:02:47.300 Do you think transgender women or men, fully intact, should be allowed in women's locker 1.00

07:02:52.260 slash dressing rooms?

07:02:53.820 Do you think it's fair to ask biological women to open space, knowing some have been 0.99

07:02:59.080 Sid?

07:03:02.080 Wait.

07:03:02.620 Do you think it's fair to ask biological women? 0.99

07:03:04.440 Quick response on this, if you can.

07:03:06.000 Knowing some have been.

07:03:06.980 I think this is for you, Moon, if you will.

07:03:12.180 Um, as far as the locker rooms, I'm going to say, yeah, I mean, because for me, like,

07:03:19.240 what, what does it matter if they're changing clothes next to you?

07:03:22.260 Like, everyone changing clothes next to you isn't trying to have sex with you.

07:03:25.660 You know what I mean? 0.75

07:03:26.120 Like, let them change clothes and shower next to you.

07:03:28.760 It's not a big deal.

07:03:30.000 You don't have to be in a relationship with them.

07:03:32.200 Yeah.

07:03:33.180 I don't think someone who's changing genders is really trying to jump your bones.

07:03:36.960 I don't know if it's not.

07:03:38.960 And either way, like, it's, if someone wants to essay someone in a locker room, they're

07:03:43.080 going to do it whether or not.

07:03:44.100 Same gender, different gender, all genders.

07:03:45.960 They're just going to go there and do it.

07:03:47.040 Yeah.

07:03:48.100 Moon, in your notes here, or while in the questionnaire, you agree with the following statement.

07:03:54.460 Women are just as physically strong as men.

07:03:56.960 Can you just clarify?

07:03:57.940 How do you think?

07:03:58.800 Some.

07:03:59.400 Definitely.

07:03:59.820 I wouldn't say myself, but yeah, some women, definitely, or more. 1.00

07:04:03.400 But if, in general, would you agree that men are physically stronger than women?

07:04:07.660 I would say that men have the biological makeup to be stronger than us.

07:04:13.180 But if a man doesn't work out and a woman does, she's going to be stronger. 1.00

07:04:17.720 Y'all are set up to be stronger.

07:04:19.360 Yes, of course.

07:04:20.120 Because that's undeniable.

07:04:20.920 Yeah, I agree with you that there are certainly, there are women who are stronger than some 1.00

07:04:26.000 men.

07:04:26.420 Yep.

07:04:27.040 Perhaps many men, even.

07:04:28.340 But if we, generally speaking, men are physically stronger than women, generally.

07:04:34.340 Most men.

07:04:35.140 Do you disagree?

07:04:36.100 You seem a little, I can't tell.

07:04:38.580 Oh, you're just kind of, maybe it's just how you.

07:04:41.100 Yeah, it's the champagne.

07:04:42.660 Oh, it's the, of course, the champagne.

07:04:44.900 What do they call champagne in China?

07:04:48.180 In Chinese, yeah.

07:04:48.860 Xiong Binh.

07:04:50.100 Xiong Binh? 0.91

07:04:50.620 Xiong Binh? 0.91

07:04:50.780 Yeah.

07:04:51.160 Xiong Binh? 0.91

07:04:51.880 Xiong Binh.

07:04:52.620 Xiong Binh? 0.91

07:04:53.320 Xiong Binh.

07:04:53.940 Binh. 0.95

07:04:54.500 Bean?

07:04:55.080 Yeah.

07:04:55.460 Xiong Binh.

07:04:56.200 Xiong Binh.

07:04:56.980 Xiong Binh.

07:04:57.340 Yeah.

07:04:57.780 Xiong Binh.

07:04:58.580 Do they make champagne in...

07:05:00.460 Xiong Binh.

07:05:01.060 Xiong Binh.

07:05:02.460 Sparkling wine, I guess.

07:05:03.600 Yeah.

07:05:03.720 Why would they not? 1.00

07:05:04.760 What the fuck? 1.00

07:05:05.060 Xiong Binh. 1.00

07:05:05.820 Right.

07:05:06.880 Xiong Binh.

07:05:07.140 Xiong Binh.

07:05:07.980 I feel like we should talk about dating in China.

07:05:10.840 Oh.

07:05:11.940 Do you have any thoughts on that?

07:05:13.660 Any...

07:05:14.140 All the dates that I had were, like, marriage-oriented.

07:05:19.720 It's very...

07:05:20.560 Do people hook up in China? 0.99

07:05:22.700 To get sex? 0.98

07:05:23.640 Yeah. 0.97

07:05:23.900 Like, just, you know, they go to a party.

07:05:26.240 They...

07:05:26.640 Like, I'm assuming there's, you know, nightclubs.

07:05:28.880 You go to a nightclub in China, in, you know, wherever, and people just...

07:05:34.360 Yeah.

07:05:34.700 Some people do that, but such behavior is not considered decent.

07:05:38.520 Like, you wouldn't want, like, all your classmates or your friends to know that, unless you are

07:05:43.520 all the same kind of people.

07:05:45.160 I see.

07:05:45.760 Okay.

07:05:46.980 And...

07:05:47.820 Well, I feel like there's definitely...

07:05:50.940 People definitely got to hook up in China.

07:05:52.860 Yeah.

07:05:53.340 Because, I mean, there's a lot of people in China.

07:05:55.340 Yeah.

07:05:56.480 What is it, like...

07:05:57.200 It's a lot of kids.

07:05:58.540 It's 1.4 billion.

07:05:59.540 They're...

07:06:00.020 Billion. 1.00

07:06:00.880 They're having sex in China. 0.99

07:06:02.340 They have hook-up culture. 1.00

07:06:03.640 They're having sex. 0.99

07:06:05.060 Okay.

07:06:05.420 But, like, people have to get married first.

07:06:07.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

07:06:07.760 Yeah.

07:06:08.000 And, let's see here.

07:06:10.480 Do you want to get married or have kids?

07:06:12.440 Yeah.

07:06:13.020 You do want kids?

07:06:13.740 Yeah.

07:06:13.980 Okay.

07:06:14.680 All right.

07:06:15.440 And, do you have...

07:06:17.200 I forgot to ask, do you have a preference for when it comes to, like, would you date...

07:06:21.300 Because you said you dated another Chinese international student when you were in Germany,

07:06:26.380 and an Indian guy.

07:06:28.540 You have not dated a white person or a black person?

07:06:32.540 No.

07:06:33.360 Or a Latino person? 0.93

07:06:35.040 No.

07:06:35.280 Like, Mexican? 0.98

07:06:36.340 Not yet, no.

07:06:37.340 Would you, or do you prefer to date Asian men?

07:06:43.240 I think I can date Latinos, but, like, I dance salsa and bachatano, and, like, I know a lot

07:06:51.720 of Latinos and Latinas.

07:06:53.520 Yes.

07:06:53.940 Right.

07:06:54.160 Because, like, I have a little bit issue with, like, their punctualities, and some people

07:07:00.440 just don't respond to my messages at all. 0.99

07:07:02.940 Oh, shit. 0.99

07:07:03.680 I mean, it's just, like, certain people. 1.00

07:07:06.440 And then, like, would you date a white guy?

07:07:09.460 Yeah.

07:07:10.060 Black guy? 0.91

07:07:10.400 I don't know. 0.97

07:07:12.020 I think my parents would cry.

07:07:14.340 Like, literally, my grandma was crying when she heard that I was dating an Indian guy,

07:07:20.060 and we wanted to live outside China.

07:07:22.940 Like, she was in her 90s.

07:07:26.240 Can I, uh, can I ask you a question?

07:07:29.240 Uh, are people pretty racist in China?

07:07:32.660 I think people are not aware of, like, this issue, because there are not enough foreigners.

07:07:40.360 Like, people, like, who haven't been to the big cities have not seen any foreigner in

07:07:45.020 their whole life.

07:07:46.280 So, people don't know whether they are actually racist or not.

07:07:50.480 But I would say, like, because I dated this Indian guy, so I, like, would notice a lot of

07:07:55.920 comments in the internet, they were pretty, like, racist.

07:08:00.300 Just, especially against, like, brown people or black people. 0.99

07:08:04.820 Got it. 0.97

07:08:05.460 Okay.

07:08:06.320 Uh, moving on to the questionnaire.

07:08:08.340 We won't, probably won't do all of these, but we'll just do a few more.

07:08:11.340 Um, Shannon, you, you did a squiggly line. 1.00

07:08:14.660 People of color can't be racist towards white people.

07:08:17.840 I don't think the word should be.

07:08:19.500 To which you agree.

07:08:20.980 I put squiggly, because I think the wording, I don't think that they can be racist, but

07:08:25.640 I think that they can have.

07:08:26.480 Prejudice.

07:08:27.000 Yeah, they can be prejudiced.

07:08:28.200 And then, Gabby, you also circled that people of color can't be racist towards white people.

07:08:32.620 Nope.

07:08:32.960 What's your position there?

07:08:34.120 It's the same thing.

07:08:35.200 You can be prejudiced, but not racist.

07:08:38.980 Okay.

07:08:39.640 Uh, can you explain it to me?

07:08:41.220 Racism, based, it's more systematic when you really think about it, because we had the

07:08:47.260 civil rights movement for a reason.

07:08:48.920 We were, well, I can't say weak, so I'm mixed.

07:08:51.740 I mean, I don't know.

07:08:52.500 Are you, like, 50-50?

07:08:55.000 Yeah, 50-50.

07:08:56.500 But, it was...

07:08:57.680 Uh, dad's black, or mom's black? 0.90

07:09:00.080 Uh, dad's black. 0.95

07:09:00.960 Got it, okay.

07:09:01.500 Yeah, but, um, it was a more or less of a thing that black people had to fight for the

07:09:07.260 rights, as well as other people of colors.

07:09:09.700 And to this day, there's still ways that they're being oppressed.

07:09:14.920 And, um, the prison system is a way that it really shows.

07:09:19.120 Um, black people get incarcerated at higher rates, um, and you, when you're in prison,

07:09:26.040 you work, work for, like, five cents. 0.56

07:09:28.960 Wait, one, one question on that.

07:09:30.200 So, you said the, related to the prison thing.

07:09:33.020 Mm-hmm.

07:09:33.640 So, you're saying there's a disproportionality comparing whites to blacks in the prisons. 0.94

07:09:41.040 Like, uh, black people are more likely to be convicted of crimes. 1.00

07:09:44.400 Incarcerated, yes. 0.98

07:09:44.980 Incarcerated.

07:09:45.420 And you think, is it, would you say that's because of racism?

07:09:50.860 Not inherently, no, because everyone commits crimes, but a part of it kind of is.

07:09:56.800 The whole prison system, like, the working, initially, when it was started, it was just

07:10:02.100 a way to incarcerate black people and have them do slave, more, more slave work. 0.98

07:10:07.620 Historically, yes. 0.88

07:10:08.360 And it was mainly in the South.

07:10:09.120 Yeah.

07:10:09.340 Yeah, historically, yes.

07:10:10.580 There's an incentive there.

07:10:11.900 There's still, like, a lot of money.

07:10:13.000 But they still work, they still work in prison for, like, peanut wages, and, well, sometimes

07:10:18.340 they get, they get time off, but.

07:10:20.280 It's iffy, but it's more or less, like, racism is the systematic oppression, not just the hate

07:10:26.420 of their skin color.

07:10:27.580 Okay, but, question for you.

07:10:29.540 So, you, you're pointing towards, there's a, uh, discrepancy in, uh, convictions and incarceration

07:10:36.140 between whites and blacks, uh, but what if I told you that discrepancy is orders of magnitude

07:10:43.000 greater comparing men to women?

07:10:45.520 So, and you're pointing towards, well, uh, the discrepancy between white and black, that's

07:10:51.600 due to racism, right?

07:10:53.560 Well, then, surely, following your own logic, you would have to say that the discrepancy between

07:10:58.100 men and women in the prison system must be due to sexism. 1.00

07:11:01.920 Um, no, and that's a different thing, black, black men are most of the time prosecuted

07:11:07.160 because of their skin color and sent, like, they get charges against them, but, and there's

07:11:12.780 other ways black women face racism, specifically. 1.00

07:11:16.980 Well, white men are more incarcerated than black women. 0.67

07:11:20.240 That's a, that's what I'm getting to.

07:11:22.220 There's, it's different a little bit for the genders within the black community, but the 0.62

07:11:26.920 thing is with black women, it's also, um, they're less likely to get proper treatment 1.00

07:11:33.180 in hospitals and things like that.

07:11:35.100 There, there's a, I don't know.

07:11:38.020 Yeah, but let's stick to the prison thing.

07:11:39.600 Um, well, okay.

07:11:41.000 Can you explain that?

07:11:43.160 Well, so my question to you was, uh, you're pointing towards the discrepancy between whites

07:11:50.520 and blacks in prison as evidence of racism, and I'm telling you that there's an even greater 0.82

07:11:56.920 discrepancy between men and women in prison.

07:11:59.940 So that too should then be evidence that would be due to sexism following your own logic.

07:12:06.860 No, because that's a whole different thing.

07:12:09.200 How's it different?

07:12:09.800 That's a gender breakdown, not a race breakdown.

07:12:11.700 But if you're saying a discrepancy exists, right?

07:12:16.500 Between the races, yes.

07:12:18.200 Between the races.

07:12:18.920 And you're saying this discrepancy exists because racism.

07:12:23.140 So you would have to, you'd have to acknowledge that there is a discrepancy between, uh, men

07:12:29.060 in the prison system and women in the prison system.

07:12:30.980 There's far more men.

07:12:32.280 That discrepancy is far greater between men and women than it is between black and white.

07:12:37.480 So this must be due to sexism, right?

07:12:41.700 Mm-mm.

07:12:42.760 I'd say more or less because most men commit more violent crimes and things like that.

07:12:48.140 There's a higher percentage of men committing violent crimes.

07:12:50.540 You sure you want to make this argument?

07:12:52.060 Uh, yes and no, but you're probably going to be right.

07:12:55.600 Hold on, but if I were to present to you evidence that, uh, if there were statistics that showed

07:13:01.540 that black people committed more crimes, would that, would that then explain away your claims

07:13:07.260 that it's due to racism, uh, for the discrepancy between white and black? 0.88

07:13:14.440 Depends on the crime.

07:13:15.480 I know it's not my question, but I think it depends on the crime.

07:13:18.180 A little bit, yeah.

07:13:19.080 But, um, I can't really defend that because, honestly, um, I did some research on this,

07:13:27.400 but not as much as I probably should, which is kind of crappy.

07:13:31.620 But, um, I'd say that's more or less because of the, um, just higher incarceration, right?

07:13:38.780 And also because of other things within the black community itself, like gang violence

07:13:42.720 and things like that.

07:13:43.520 So, I mean, yes and no.

07:13:45.820 I don't.

07:13:46.960 I do think that there might be some sexism in there, for sure.

07:13:49.580 I mean, the, we allow men to push down their emotions and they go bigger, right?

07:13:54.680 Women are doing more small crime and small things. 1.00

07:13:57.380 You get the slap on the wrist.

07:13:58.720 So, there's definitely both cases.

07:14:00.840 You have sexism and racism going on, for sure. 0.85

07:14:03.180 Yeah.

07:14:03.420 Well, I mean, if you look at, uh, sentencing disparity, right?

07:14:07.580 So, there's, there's some statistics that indicate, uh, and I'd, I'd actually have to do

07:14:11.880 more research to say something definitive, uh, that there's a sentencing disparity.

07:14:16.520 So, the length, uh, you know, uh, the length of the sentence, the prison sentence between

07:14:22.140 whites and black, there's disparity there.

07:14:24.300 Yeah.

07:14:24.520 But the disparity, again, not just the incarceration rate, but the disparity in terms of sentence

07:14:30.340 length, incarceration length is again, uh, the, the disparity between men, uh, men and

07:14:36.600 women dwarfs the disparity between white and black. 1.00

07:14:40.180 Yeah.

07:14:40.660 And so, oftentimes, for example, uh, I mean, look, I could give you anecdotes.

07:14:44.740 You guys could probably give me anecdotes in return or perhaps it's not anecdotes, but

07:14:49.160 I mean, uh, and I think this happened in Ventura Felicity.

07:14:53.820 So, I don't know if you, like, you're kind of living in that, you're like, you live further

07:14:57.080 down South.

07:14:58.100 Um, there was this woman who was smoking marijuana with her, uh, boyfriend or like hook, casual

07:15:05.840 hookup or situationship.

07:15:07.220 And she had like marijuana induced psychosis and then she stabbed him to death and also 1.00

07:15:12.840 stabbed her dog.

07:15:14.720 She, he, he died. 0.86

07:15:16.720 She got let off with probation and community service.

07:15:22.580 Wow.

07:15:22.920 I would find it very unlikely if a man murdered a woman, even if it was marijuana induced psychosis,

07:15:33.260 whatever that is, uh, stabbed her to death that he would get off.

07:15:40.040 Yeah.

07:15:40.220 He would not see the inside of a prison cell.

07:15:43.000 Unless he's got a lot of money, like a whole boatload.

07:15:46.420 Even then.

07:15:47.260 Yeah.

07:15:47.540 And he's fleeing the country.

07:15:49.000 And she stabbed her dog. 1.00

07:15:49.840 Oh.

07:15:50.060 Yeah.

07:15:50.940 But I think that's two separate things.

07:15:52.260 Like the sexism thing that's going on where it's like, yeah, I agree.

07:15:54.680 Like, it's like, and I think a lot of us do where women can get away with certain things 1.00

07:15:58.400 that men can't.

07:15:59.360 And then, but then the disparity of race, of course, is a separate.

07:16:02.760 Can I ask for some clarification?

07:16:03.760 Sure.

07:16:03.920 Because isn't the question why people can't experience racism?

07:16:08.400 So if something was.

07:16:09.020 Yeah, we can bring it back to that.

07:16:10.180 We got it.

07:16:10.700 I'm just a little, well, I'm just a little confused.

07:16:12.700 I'm asking because obviously it's not a, it's not really like my question or my fight.

07:16:17.040 Right.

07:16:17.240 But I'm just wondering, so if somebody were to do a crime, because you're talking about

07:16:21.200 prison system, against someone because they were white, is that not racism? 0.93

07:16:26.280 I hope I don't sound ignorant. 0.75

07:16:27.720 I'm really just trying to clarify.

07:16:28.640 No, that's fine.

07:16:28.660 That was a good question.

07:16:29.660 That's a good question.

07:16:30.280 That is a good question.

07:16:31.440 And in that sense, I'd say, yeah, I guess.

07:16:37.940 Probably, yeah, that would be a form of racism.

07:16:41.840 It's just the bigger picture is systematic.

07:16:43.900 I'd say more prejudice, I guess, because it's based in just hate and a dislike for that,

07:16:50.340 I guess.

07:16:50.880 For that race, though, right?

07:16:51.880 Yes, for the race.

07:16:52.700 Maybe I'm not understanding, maybe I feel, I feel like maybe I don't understand what

07:16:57.240 the word racist definitionally means.

07:16:59.800 I don't know.

07:17:00.160 But so are there any instances where a black person can be racist towards a white person?

07:17:06.740 You're asking me?

07:17:08.020 Oh, I thought you were squiggly on this.

07:17:09.520 Oh.

07:17:09.800 Because you said it was prejudice, right?

07:17:11.480 Yeah, just the word.

07:17:12.200 Yeah, but I'm asking racist.

07:17:14.340 I agree with, what was your name again?

07:17:17.680 Gabby.

07:17:18.340 Gabby.

07:17:18.660 How could you forget my homegirl's name?

07:17:21.900 I apologize.

07:17:22.940 I'm here for hours.

07:17:23.840 It's me and my memory is really bad.

07:17:25.140 It's okay.

07:17:25.580 It's okay.

07:17:27.020 Yeah, I would just say I agree with you that it's like racism is systemic and like white 0.83

07:17:33.720 people don't face the same type of systemic racism.

07:17:36.820 So other races can be prejudiced towards white people, but it's not the same exact racism.

07:17:43.660 Yeah.

07:17:44.300 I mean, there's some counter arguments here.

07:17:47.120 I think you could argue that affirmative action is systemically racist against white

07:17:52.420 people.

07:17:53.220 Why?

07:17:53.720 Women got so many benefits out of affirmative action. 1.00

07:17:56.540 We benefited.

07:17:58.060 White women? 1.00

07:17:58.980 Well, there's like, there's gender-based affirmative action, race-based affirmative action.

07:18:03.960 So you would argue if like, uh, perhaps, uh, otherwise, uh, more merit-based white candidates were

07:18:12.240 overlooked because, because of their race, uh, you actually see this happening a lot with

07:18:16.800 Asian students in particular.

07:18:18.380 Uh, so like there's a big scandal with these Ivy league schools, Harvard, for example.

07:18:22.620 Uh, so as an Asian person, you had to score way higher than white people, Latino people, uh, and black

07:18:32.040 people to be able to get in.

07:18:34.080 So that was like a sort of, uh, and Asian people are minorities, but they're like, they're not the 0.61

07:18:40.160 right kind of minority in the, in the sense of, well, they're, they're discriminated against in a

07:18:47.420 different sort of way.

07:18:48.820 That is still discrimination.

07:18:50.200 It is still discrimination.

07:18:51.360 But like with Harvard, basically they're like, you know, these Asian people are way too smart 1.00

07:18:57.480 and we're letting too many of them in.

07:18:59.360 Well, that's, but that's, that would be a, uh, racist against Asian people just in a sort of

07:19:05.200 different way.

07:19:06.240 Absolutely.

07:19:06.860 Um, but, and it's also just unfair.

07:19:09.380 I think the best people, the best people should, uh, get the acceptance into the university.

07:19:16.360 Yes.

07:19:16.920 And so, and when you overlook the best people, the smartest people and well, you know, we, we got to

07:19:23.060 do the, what is it?

07:19:24.320 The, the inclusion thing.

07:19:26.920 Yeah.

07:19:27.100 No one's really doing it.

07:19:28.040 Yeah, I get, I get what you mean though.

07:19:29.540 Yeah.

07:19:29.720 And it should be the best candidate.

07:19:31.000 I think a study just came out, um, that showed, and they did, um, across the board, they did

07:19:35.560 all fake, you know, applications or whatever.

07:19:37.740 Um, but a study over several years, uh, not, and I'm not debating anything.

07:19:41.780 I'm just sharing the information.

07:19:42.740 Uh, but, uh, they did white and black candidates, um, all fake applications and they did, uh, white 0.73

07:19:50.260 two, four groups, white that had no criminal record, white that had criminal record, black

07:19:55.660 that had no criminal record and black that, you know what I'm talking about? 0.90

07:19:58.040 And then black with criminal record. 0.98

07:19:59.180 And what they showed is that a white person with a criminal record was getting more job 0.97

07:20:03.700 opportunities than a black person with no criminal record.

07:20:06.420 So I, I, I, I get that we shouldn't do a crazy thing where it's like, you should just

07:20:11.780 get people in because of no one's really doing that though.

07:20:14.760 Um, but I think that, um, here, here's something I can share.

07:20:19.040 I didn't realize that I had a bias.

07:20:21.000 I had an, uh, bias in me and I was coaching.

07:20:23.820 You don't like black people?

07:20:24.820 What? 0.96

07:20:25.120 No, not that kind of bias.

07:20:26.020 Oh my bad.

07:20:27.140 Sorry.

07:20:27.780 Not that kind of bias.

07:20:29.420 I meant like I, I, I go towards or move towards or select things that look like me.

07:20:34.180 And I didn't know that I was out doing that years ago.

07:20:36.900 I was working underneath a boss of mine and, um, she was having me do, um, the, uh, the 0.95

07:20:43.680 articles.

07:20:44.800 And so she's Latin.

07:20:46.260 I was doing the articles and I was selecting photos for the articles, doing it for months,

07:20:50.020 thought I'm doing a great job.

07:20:50.920 And she sat me down and she was like, Hey, let's, uh, let's look at this over.

07:20:54.460 She goes, look at the articles I posted and published and look at the articles that you

07:20:57.680 posted and published.

07:20:58.640 Do you see any difference?

07:20:59.860 I looked at them.

07:21:00.620 I was like, no, they look good.

07:21:02.140 I think I'm good.

07:21:03.080 Doing a good job.

07:21:03.880 And she was look again and I'm looking and I can't see it.

07:21:06.820 And she goes, uh, Natalie on mine, I have Asian, black, white, I have all different ethnicities

07:21:14.020 and races.

07:21:14.460 She's like, you only put, keep putting in white people. 0.95

07:21:16.860 And I was like, Oh, Oh, so that's, I, yeah.

07:21:21.620 So, so going back to the, I guess the original thing here, people of color can't be racist

07:21:25.520 towards white people.

07:21:26.360 So it's, it's just, uh, when it comes to the definition of racism, you've, you've changed

07:21:31.400 the definition to be prejudice plus power, basically, right?

07:21:34.320 Is that your definition?

07:21:35.860 And, uh, it's, you've, you've changed the definition to suit you so that often, well,

07:21:42.280 not saying not actually accusing you guys of this, but they've changed it so that your

07:21:47.180 racism or your sexism can't be labeled as such.

07:21:49.960 But, um, I think that, look, ultimately I think people should be judged as individuals,

07:21:58.360 not as part of some group identity.

07:22:00.740 But, uh, one question to you, let's say there's a, uh, a company and the, the CEO is black,

07:22:07.840 the board of directors are black, uh, and they refuse to hire a white janitor.

07:22:13.100 Would that be racism? 0.92

07:22:14.080 Um, why are they refusing to hire just because of the race?

07:22:18.420 Because he's white, but I'll let you answer. 0.81

07:22:20.520 Go ahead.

07:22:23.320 Those circumstances based in power pretty much.

07:22:26.180 Mm-hmm.

07:22:26.840 Yeah.

07:22:27.500 Yeah.

07:22:28.160 Why do you feel hesitant to just be like, yeah, that'd be racist?

07:22:31.600 Well, it is racist.

07:22:33.240 Oh, okay.

07:22:33.560 All right.

07:22:34.300 And would you agree, like, would you agree with that?

07:22:36.280 If a, uh, a black CEO of a multi-billion dollar company refused to hire a white janitor, would 0.82

07:22:43.660 that be racism? 0.67

07:22:45.780 It's solely just based off of his race and yeah, probably.

07:22:49.200 Okay.

07:22:50.200 We wouldn't call it discrimination.

07:22:50.980 Fair enough.

07:22:51.620 But, yeah.

07:22:52.800 But?

07:22:53.640 But?

07:22:54.000 But?

07:22:54.440 Oh, there's a but.

07:22:56.060 Go ahead.

07:22:56.420 Go ahead.

07:22:57.160 Let's hear it.

07:22:57.420 The broader thing for me is just mainly the systematic issues within racism itself.

07:23:04.620 It doesn't benefit, it benefits the white people more than it does people of color. 0.77

07:23:11.760 So, that's my main issue and that's why I see racism, racism the way I do.

07:23:17.200 Mm-hmm.

07:23:18.080 Okay.

07:23:18.380 I also just don't think me, well, me personally, because I'm half white, I don't think I can 0.95

07:23:22.680 be racist to white people.

07:23:23.640 So, it's just like, you can't be racist to your own race.

07:23:29.520 I can't be racist to my own race.

07:23:31.260 Can't you though?

07:23:32.200 No.

07:23:32.380 Wouldn't you?

07:23:33.020 Oh.

07:23:33.500 Wait, but hold on.

07:23:34.500 Wait, wait, wait.

07:23:34.960 Let me give you an example. 0.98

07:23:36.700 Someone who's fully black refuses to hire black people because they have negative opinions 0.98

07:23:44.100 about black people. 0.98

07:23:45.760 Wouldn't that be racist? 0.96

07:23:46.840 I think that would be racist.

07:23:47.840 Internalized racism.

07:23:48.920 That's internalized racism.

07:23:49.800 Well, it'd still be racism.

07:23:50.800 I mean, I'm like, I'm not racist, so it's just like, there's nothing I do that would

07:23:55.200 be considered racist.

07:23:56.340 I don't really know.

07:23:57.460 Well, you wouldn't do racist things because you're not a racist, I guess.

07:24:01.540 Yeah, I guess.

07:24:01.920 Wait, this is going to sound really bad, but I have to, I have autism, so I have to ask

07:24:07.200 it.

07:24:07.360 Are you actually?

07:24:08.160 Huh?

07:24:08.540 Never mind.

07:24:09.020 Are you?

07:24:09.520 Do you have autism?

07:24:10.320 No.

07:24:10.500 Are you trying to bond over this or something?

07:24:12.060 No, I'm not autistic.

07:24:12.920 I'm sorry.

07:24:13.340 Oh, okay.

07:24:14.540 So, can you, not, don't do it now.

07:24:20.160 I'm just asking, can't, like, are you allowed to say the N word?

07:24:24.700 Don't say it.

07:24:25.760 I'm just saying, like, are you allowed?

07:24:27.420 There's so much debate about it that I don't even know at this point because people say I'm

07:24:34.040 white passing.

07:24:35.000 I don't know.

07:24:35.900 I don't know.

07:24:36.680 Um, I get told I look white passing.

07:24:39.480 I get told I'm, I don't look inherently white, but I don't look just black either.

07:24:44.020 I look mixed.

07:24:45.060 Yeah, I would.

07:24:45.500 The thing is, is because we're mixed, we don't align with just one race.

07:24:50.200 We're both.

07:24:51.440 And the thing is, they expect us to align with one more than the other.

07:24:56.040 And it's also just, you're not fitting into the groups themselves.

07:24:59.940 Like, it's hard to bond with a just white group. 0.66

07:25:03.360 And then sometimes it's hard to bond with just a black group.

07:25:05.920 And it also comes down to, like, my family as well.

07:25:08.680 I am not close with either side.

07:25:10.900 It's, I only have a few people I'm close with.

07:25:13.880 And that's just because of my parents.

07:25:15.780 But it's just the matter of fact that I don't fit in anywhere.

07:25:18.940 And it's just, like, you're within your own thing.

07:25:21.680 And some people say I can say it.

07:25:24.600 Other people say I can't.

07:25:25.120 But have you said it and has somebody gotten, like, upset?

07:25:27.740 Mad at me for saying it?

07:25:29.760 No, I mean. 0.95

07:25:30.820 Because, I mean, I can tell, like, you, you look like you're half white, half black. 0.99

07:25:34.980 Like, it's not that, yeah.

07:25:37.680 So, I don't know.

07:25:38.400 I don't know.

07:25:38.880 And it's just also that mixed people don't really face the exact same racism as fully black people do. 0.90

07:25:45.580 So, that's another issue within itself.

07:25:47.420 There's just a ton of things.

07:25:49.800 But I have, like, had, like, a few people, like, just, like, one or two really be serious about me saying it.

07:25:58.500 And it was literally just, like, me lip syncing a freaking TikTok. 0.85

07:26:02.560 I have someone in my comments be like, you're not black. 0.93

07:26:04.620 I'm like, okay, thank you.

07:26:05.600 But I do have people just, like, try to be funny saying it.

07:26:10.620 Like, I'm not going to really point out who in my life did this.

07:26:16.760 But there's a white girl. 0.98

07:26:18.040 And she was saying, Amber, around me.

07:26:21.140 And I was like, you can't say that.

07:26:22.340 And she was like, why can't I say it?

07:26:24.320 You're half white. 0.99

07:26:25.140 If I called you my Caucasian, would you be offended by that?

07:26:34.760 It would just be funny.

07:26:35.920 I mean, I'm still.

07:26:36.980 Like, if I dapped you up.

07:26:38.440 My Caucasian.

07:26:39.440 My Caucasian.

07:26:40.020 I would just laugh.

07:26:41.000 I'd be like, my white. 0.61

07:26:42.220 I don't know.

07:26:42.660 My cracker.

07:26:43.260 I don't know.

07:26:43.520 I would say it's funny.

07:26:45.540 Okay.

07:26:45.900 Avoid the word if you can.

07:26:47.320 But it's fine.

07:26:47.960 Really?

07:26:48.340 Yeah, it's okay.

07:26:49.160 It's okay.

07:26:49.440 Okay.

07:26:50.000 Don't worry.

07:26:50.560 You didn't know.

07:26:50.980 It's not a big deal.

07:26:52.160 I mean, no.

07:26:53.100 I'm still Caucasian.

07:26:54.380 I mean.

07:26:54.620 I'm so white.

07:26:55.400 I'm so black.

07:26:55.940 I mean.

07:26:56.020 I guess I set that one up a little bit.

07:26:59.560 Charlie Johnson.

07:27:00.920 Did anyone here choose to be the race and gender we are?

07:27:03.360 Or did we all just get put here and now have to deal with our own choices in this life?

07:27:07.840 My father always said no one chose to be the way they are.

07:27:10.980 We're born.

07:27:12.580 I say judge people by the content of their character.

07:27:15.380 That's beautiful.

07:27:16.000 Oh, my God.

07:27:16.580 Charlie.

07:27:17.320 I love you.

07:27:18.540 Charlie.

07:27:18.900 Charlie.

07:27:19.100 Oh, Christopher Murphy.

07:27:27.980 There's a vast generational difference regarding the race topic.

07:27:31.640 Being raised colorblind used to be a virtue. 1.00

07:27:34.480 Now we have to kiss the ass of those who look differently from white people. 1.00

07:27:38.480 Well, that went to the other. 1.00

07:27:39.540 Thank you, Christopher Murphy, for your message.

07:27:42.780 I'm going to let these two chats come through.

07:27:44.200 We got.

07:27:47.400 Oh, boy.

07:27:48.380 Well, it is the roast session. 1.00

07:27:49.660 So, fuck it. 1.00

07:27:50.280 Why not? 1.00

07:27:51.200 We got to let a couple of roasts go through.

07:27:52.900 Based Thor donated $69.

07:27:55.840 Sorry.

07:27:56.400 Brian, you need to give credits to your whatever chairs for putting up with the heavy amounts of weights, dump trucks, and stank bunnies.

07:28:03.180 He's talking about me.

07:28:04.320 He's talking about me.

07:28:05.660 Well, I need to look at those poor chairs.

07:28:08.820 Do we disinfect the poor?

07:28:10.220 We clean them after the show, usually.

07:28:12.920 What kind of incel comment is that?

07:28:15.040 Based Thor, you're such an incel.

07:28:17.540 That's what she said.

07:28:18.400 Curtis Unders Corley on donated $69.

07:28:20.640 I firmly don't believe you can change their race or gender, but maybe your species. 0.96

07:28:27.380 Brian seems to be transitioning from human to a beached whale.

07:28:31.880 Yeah, you know. 1.00

07:28:32.280 Damn. 1.00

07:28:33.180 They really get down. 1.00

07:28:34.560 Look, guys.

07:28:35.220 I've gained a bit of weight.

07:28:36.680 It's in the...

07:28:37.160 You know, I'm going to lose it, though.

07:28:38.240 It's coming off.

07:28:38.980 It's coming off.

07:28:39.640 I've been saying this for years, but it's a work in progress.

07:28:42.400 What do you do to lose weight?

07:28:43.580 What do I do to lose weight?

07:28:45.420 Eat more burgers.

07:28:46.600 You have to think.

07:28:47.440 You don't do nothing.

07:28:47.880 Wait.

07:28:48.300 What do you...

07:28:48.740 Do you look great?

07:28:50.460 I'm confused.

07:28:51.920 Well, somebody said you didn't, so...

07:28:54.780 You were...

07:28:55.320 And you lost weight, too, didn't you say?

07:28:57.420 You lost, like, a lot of weight. 0.99

07:28:59.260 I lost a bit of it, but I put that shit back on. 0.99

07:29:03.180 It's a work in progress, though. 0.98

07:29:04.560 Yeah.

07:29:04.920 It's a work in progress.

07:29:06.580 All right.

07:29:07.140 Okay.

07:29:07.400 Let's do a couple more here, then.

07:29:09.280 Let's see.

07:29:09.800 We have...

07:29:11.000 Oh, we did need to do...

07:29:12.320 Okay.

07:29:12.580 A woman's past should not matter. 1.00

07:29:14.440 We did talk about body count a little earlier.

07:29:16.760 Moon, you agree a woman's past should not matter. 1.00

07:29:20.940 Gabby, you agree a woman's past should not matter. 1.00

07:29:23.820 And remind me, the pronunciation, when you...

07:29:27.300 When you...

07:29:27.900 When you...

07:29:29.120 Yeah.

07:29:29.700 Did I do it right or no?

07:29:31.860 Kind of.

07:29:32.460 A woman's past should not matter. 1.00

07:29:35.280 This is kind of related to body count.

07:29:37.220 Why do you say that?

07:29:43.080 Yeah.

07:29:43.620 I mean, isn't that objectifying a woman? 1.00

07:29:46.480 Like, if you consider that, like, she had sex with different people.

07:29:52.300 I don't know if it's objectifying, but...

07:29:55.480 Here, what's your answer?

07:29:57.960 Why doesn't...

07:29:59.200 Why her past doesn't matter?

07:30:01.040 Yeah.

07:30:01.300 Why should a woman's past should not matter? 0.95

07:30:04.620 It depends on whether or not she's, I mean, I guess, changed from what she used to do.

07:30:09.780 It's also down to what that person is looking for.

07:30:12.460 If it matters to you, then it matters to you.

07:30:14.960 But inherently to me, it doesn't matter.

07:30:18.080 And I don't think it really should matter in the long run.

07:30:20.860 Because what you do in the past, you can't really make up for it, you know?

07:30:24.940 Like, what you did, like, ten years ago.

07:30:27.100 And you bring it up.

07:30:28.120 And then someone's like, oh, I don't like you because of that.

07:30:29.980 Why does that matter?

07:30:32.500 It was a decade ago, you know? 1.00

07:30:34.580 So I think inherently, it's kind of like just a stupid way of thinking. 0.99

07:30:39.600 Is this question just... 1.00

07:30:41.200 Oh, go ahead.

07:30:42.080 ...just regarding body count or just like a woman's past in general?

07:30:45.800 Uh, it could be taken either way.

07:30:47.860 Yeah.

07:30:48.120 Well, because I know that we already had, like, the body count conversation.

07:30:50.740 Yeah.

07:30:50.760 So I'm just curious.

07:30:52.200 I mean, it could apply to other things.

07:30:53.980 But typically, we're just talking about body count.

07:30:55.660 Wait, you do ASMR, right?

07:30:56.960 The rest of the...

07:30:57.400 Oh, my God.

07:30:58.180 Oh, did you see my hidden ASMR channel?

07:31:00.320 No, but in the notes or I think in your bio, you do ASMR.

07:31:05.360 The rest of the show, you have to do ASMR.

07:31:07.980 No.

07:31:09.200 You don't like it?

07:31:09.760 For free?

07:31:10.480 No, I'm just kidding.

07:31:11.180 I'm just kidding.

07:31:11.540 And then, Moon, you sit...

07:31:13.780 Not like the weird kind.

07:31:15.780 A woman's past should not matter. 1.00

07:31:17.340 Why is that?

07:31:18.080 I mean, I'll just use myself for an example.

07:31:20.700 If we're talking, like, you know, maybe body count and even maybe, like, criminal history.

07:31:24.420 Like, you wouldn't look at me and know I've been in jail twice.

07:31:27.800 You wouldn't look at me and maybe, you know, guess my body count.

07:31:30.880 Like, I can say that I have a pretty high body count.

07:31:33.320 But, like, with that being said, like, I'm not a criminal.

07:31:36.900 I've never even really committed a crime.

07:31:39.160 You know, that's part of my past is not who I am now.

07:31:43.060 Sure.

07:31:43.320 And, like, yeah, I'm a loyal person even though I have a high body count.

07:31:47.240 Okay.

07:31:48.100 Got it.

07:31:49.480 So, here, actually, I want to ask...

07:31:52.940 You know what?

07:31:53.700 We'll do the body count question.

07:31:56.140 We're going to go you, Felicity, then you.

07:32:00.080 Okay, so what's your body count?

07:32:01.460 Two.

07:32:02.300 Felicity?

07:32:03.220 Sorry, what?

07:32:03.720 Two.

07:32:04.160 Two?

07:32:06.840 27.

07:32:07.960 27.

07:32:08.280 Do you want to do the breakdown between men and women?

07:32:11.620 Sure.

07:32:12.320 I would say 10, maybe, with the men.

07:32:18.420 10 guys.

07:32:19.300 10 guys, and that would be, what, 17 females?

07:32:22.060 Women. 0.81

07:32:22.480 What about you?

07:32:23.840 Last time I was on, I said...

07:32:26.560 I didn't answer because I'm in a relationship.

07:32:28.580 And this time, you're answering, right?

07:32:30.680 No, same answer.

07:32:31.940 I have a boyfriend, and he...

07:32:34.140 Do you want to do range?

07:32:35.960 Him.

07:32:36.680 He's my range.

07:32:37.680 Okay.

07:32:38.860 At least one.

07:32:40.060 At least one.

07:32:41.980 Okay.

07:32:42.780 What about you?

07:32:43.820 One. 1.00

07:32:45.860 That's bullshit. 1.00

07:32:47.400 Wait, men and women are separate? 1.00

07:32:49.320 Yeah, separate them, please.

07:32:51.180 I would have to say probably under 25.

07:32:53.620 I haven't counted, but that's my guesstimation.

07:32:55.560 Some of them were couples, so...

07:32:56.620 Under...

07:32:57.280 Oh, you've, like, threesomes?

07:32:58.380 Bodies, yeah.

07:32:59.340 Okay.

07:32:59.660 Yeah.

07:32:59.800 All right.

07:33:01.540 What about you?

07:33:02.600 I think I'd better not say it if I still want to get married.

07:33:05.480 That is...

07:33:05.980 Oh, come on. 0.87

07:33:07.020 That is not true.

07:33:08.320 Not at all.

07:33:09.100 We just...

07:33:09.580 Not at all.

07:33:11.100 Here's what we're going to do.

07:33:12.800 Oh! 0.60

07:33:13.360 Oh! 0.60

07:33:14.580 He's got the way!

07:33:15.480 He's got the way!

07:33:17.360 So, we're now engaged.

07:33:19.180 Put it on.

07:33:20.520 So, now you don't have to worry.

07:33:22.520 Like, you're engaged.

07:33:23.480 You can just share that.

07:33:24.360 That was so clutch.

07:33:25.400 That was great.

07:33:26.800 Do you want to tell us a range?

07:33:28.220 How about that?

07:33:30.320 Less than 10.

07:33:31.860 Okay.

07:33:32.560 So, 9?

07:33:33.600 No.

07:33:35.220 All right.

07:33:36.060 Well, I'll say this to that.

07:33:38.040 Where is it?

07:33:38.820 Hold on.

07:33:39.720 Where is it?

07:33:41.100 Wait.

07:33:41.540 What the...

07:33:42.320 Multiply it by 3, and that's the real number.

07:33:44.980 Ha! 0.89

07:33:46.000 Maybe.

07:33:46.620 Give us a range.

07:33:48.260 I have honestly no idea.

07:33:50.180 Did you lose count?

07:33:50.960 Yeah.

07:33:52.980 Okay.

07:33:53.380 But I never counted, so I couldn't lose it.

07:33:58.780 I never counted.

07:34:01.280 But yeah, what do we got for me?

07:34:02.540 What do you got?

07:34:04.040 Is there a noise?

07:34:05.000 Do you want to...

07:34:05.520 Is it above 100?

07:34:11.560 Men or women? 0.78

07:34:13.380 Give us the breakdown.

07:34:14.680 I don't...

07:34:15.240 I honestly wouldn't even know the breakdown.

07:34:16.800 But yeah, there's a...

07:34:17.600 Total.

07:34:18.300 Total.

07:34:18.700 Above 100?

07:34:19.800 Above 100.

07:34:21.360 Is it above 100?

07:34:22.620 Yes.

07:34:22.920 Oh.

07:34:23.580 Yeah, yeah.

07:34:23.880 No, I said above 100.

07:34:25.140 Above 200?

07:34:26.560 Oh, I...

07:34:27.140 Maybe?

07:34:28.500 No.

07:34:29.580 I'm sure.

07:34:30.680 I was like, look, Charlie Sheen was a good aim.

07:34:33.120 I was drunk for like 17 years.

07:34:35.320 No, it wasn't Charlie Sheen.

07:34:36.800 Wait, you were drunk for 17 years?

07:34:38.240 Yes.

07:34:38.620 I was drunk for like 17 years.

07:34:40.260 Every day?

07:34:40.980 Did you drink like almost every day?

07:34:42.860 Yeah.

07:34:43.380 It started to get to that.

07:34:45.180 Okay.

07:34:45.860 And good times.

07:34:49.020 Yeah.

07:34:49.600 Yeah.

07:34:49.820 Yeah.

07:34:49.980 Above...

07:34:50.900 Was it above 3?

07:34:52.920 300?

07:34:54.180 I have no...

07:34:54.640 This is...

07:34:55.940 Sparta!

07:34:58.560 If I get that noise for saying above 300, sure.

07:35:02.420 Yes, absolutely.

07:35:03.580 Okay.

07:35:04.040 Yeah.

07:35:04.880 I mean, here's another one.

07:35:07.300 It's over 9,000!

07:35:09.360 Oh my gosh.

07:35:10.980 There it is.

07:35:11.860 All right.

07:35:13.000 Oh my God.

07:35:14.020 Thank you for making that fun.

07:35:15.500 That was lovely.

07:35:16.420 That was good.

07:35:16.980 That was good.

07:35:17.500 Okay.

07:35:18.340 So, but it's actually over...

07:35:19.820 It's over 300.

07:35:22.100 I...

07:35:22.460 Yes, it's over 300 if you're pushing that button.

07:35:25.400 Nope.

07:35:25.780 No button. 1.00

07:35:25.880 Damn it! 0.99

07:35:26.420 I messed it up. 1.00

07:35:27.380 I messed it up.

07:35:27.900 Zero buttons.

07:35:28.680 Zero buttons.

07:35:29.460 No buttons.

07:35:29.720 I really like that button.

07:35:35.500 Llama. 1.00

07:35:38.140 Well, it includes me in the roast, so fuck it. 1.00

07:35:40.520 Three pigs in the same room. 1.00

07:35:42.580 Huh? 0.99

07:35:43.240 What does that mean?

07:35:44.840 I think it's referencing my weight.

07:35:47.660 Because I need to lose some weight.

07:35:49.400 Thank you for the soup chat. 0.99

07:35:51.060 You guys are going ridiculous. 1.00

07:35:52.380 You guys are ridiculous. 1.00

07:35:54.360 Did we do the one from Curtis Leon? 1.00

07:35:56.200 He said, I firmly don't believe you can change your race or gender, but maybe your species.

07:35:59.820 Yes.

07:36:00.540 And he called me a beached whale.

07:36:01.860 He did.

07:36:02.660 Oh my God.

07:36:03.540 He did.

07:36:04.340 Thank you, Curtis.

07:36:05.140 Appreciate it.

07:36:06.240 I don't...

07:36:06.780 It doesn't offend me.

07:36:07.560 It doesn't bother me.

07:36:09.140 Thick skin, I guess.

07:36:10.200 Okay.

07:36:11.320 Wait, where...

07:36:12.060 Oh, body count.

07:36:13.100 Okay, we did.

07:36:14.520 Boom.

07:36:15.640 Boom.

07:36:16.180 All right.

07:36:17.400 I think there's just two more things, maybe.

07:36:20.940 All right.

07:36:22.180 So, Shannon.

07:36:23.280 Yeah.

07:36:23.720 You say women are oppressed in the USA. 0.97

07:36:27.560 Or actually, hold on.

07:36:28.220 We'll do men are... 0.97

07:36:28.920 No, we're going to do men are more privileged in society than women.

07:36:32.240 You agree.

07:36:33.320 Moon, you agree.

07:36:36.160 Gabby, you agree.

07:36:37.260 When you...

07:36:39.260 When you...

07:36:41.200 Did I say it right?

07:36:42.480 When you...

07:36:43.080 She's going to say...

07:36:43.700 Yeah.

07:36:44.540 Here.

07:36:45.220 Yeah.

07:36:45.980 Yeah.

07:36:46.580 Yeah.

07:36:47.080 Yeah.

07:36:47.920 Yeah.

07:36:48.280 Yeah.

07:36:48.380 Yeah.

07:36:48.540 Yeah.

07:36:48.680 Yeah.

07:36:49.040 Yeah.

07:36:49.180 Yeah.

07:36:49.440 Yeah.

07:36:49.880 Yeah.

07:36:50.540 Yeah.

07:36:50.800 Yeah.

07:36:52.000 What's your...

07:36:52.600 Do you go...

07:36:53.280 That's your Chinese name, right?

07:36:54.420 But do you go by, like, Sally or something?

07:36:56.860 Yeah.

07:36:57.020 You know how, like, a lot of Chinese students, they'll do, like, oh, my name's Sally. 0.98

07:37:01.040 I'm in the linguistics department, so I taught everybody how to pronounce my Chinese name.

07:37:05.440 I like that.

07:37:07.580 I can't learn.

07:37:08.560 I will say I'm Cassie.

07:37:10.160 Cassie.

07:37:10.740 Okay.

07:37:11.340 I see.

07:37:12.280 That's...

07:37:12.720 That's her alter ego.

07:37:13.860 Always pick the worst, like, names, though.

07:37:17.760 Like, it's always...

07:37:18.520 Like, maybe it would have made sense, like, in the 80s or 70s, but you guys got to get,

07:37:22.840 you know, like, do, like, a crystal or something.

07:37:25.180 I've never heard, like, a Chinese person who's using, like, an American name.

07:37:29.780 They're...

07:37:30.500 It's never, like, anything new.

07:37:32.460 Like, modern.

07:37:33.260 It's never, like, Crystal or, like, Shaniqua.

07:37:35.960 Yeah.

07:37:36.440 Or, like...

07:37:36.980 Dakota.

07:37:37.900 Tanika.

07:37:38.620 Tanika.

07:37:39.380 Never Tanika.

07:37:40.540 You should start...

07:37:41.240 Or sounding like a P.D. Pablo song.

07:37:43.040 Yeah.

07:37:43.300 Or, like, Becky or something.

07:37:45.100 Oh, that would be great.

07:37:46.640 Becca. 1.00

07:37:47.420 Becca, fucking... 1.00

07:37:48.960 What about, uh... 1.00

07:37:50.840 Yeah, Crystal or Sapphire or...

07:37:53.800 Monique.

07:37:54.760 Or Chastity or...

07:37:56.420 Chastity. 0.99

07:37:57.340 Or...

07:37:58.100 What's, like, a stripper name?

07:38:00.200 Destiny.

07:38:00.960 Destiny.

07:38:02.040 What...

07:38:02.360 No, there's a...

07:38:03.540 Candy.

07:38:04.520 What's, like, the go-to stripper name for a woman? 1.00

07:38:07.020 Isn't that it?

07:38:08.640 Crystal.

07:38:09.380 I don't know.

07:38:09.740 I think it's Crystal.

07:38:11.020 I think it's Crystal.

07:38:12.300 All right.

07:38:12.620 Well, anyways, whatever.

07:38:13.920 Okay.

07:38:14.580 But I feel like anyone watching now has that list, so that's good.

07:38:17.540 So, Shannon, men are more privileged in society or in society than women.

07:38:22.540 Why is that?

07:38:22.940 It's just how it's been for most of our society, and it hasn't really changed that much.

07:38:30.260 I mean, it's slowly changing over time, but it just hasn't really flipped that script in

07:38:36.380 our society.

07:38:37.840 What's, like...

07:38:38.820 Give me just one example of men's privilege.

07:38:41.540 Men having privilege? 0.80

07:38:42.880 Yeah.

07:38:43.040 I mean, men don't face as much, like, SA as women do, and they have just more opportunities

07:38:50.440 to, in the business world, usually, advance in their careers.

07:38:56.660 Do they?

07:38:59.000 Typically, yes.

07:39:00.620 I mean, also, it's not clear to me if, like, when it comes to...

07:39:04.040 Like, when I think of privilege, I tend to think of something...

07:39:12.080 How can I best put this?

07:39:14.140 When I think of privilege, like, it's something that's granted, right?

07:39:17.140 Like, trying to think if there was...

07:39:22.320 There would be a...

07:39:25.040 Like, so, for example, men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.

07:39:29.140 Is it a privilege to...

07:39:31.920 Is it a privilege that women have that they're less likely to be victims of violent crime 1.00

07:39:36.580 as compared to men?

07:39:38.260 Would you say that's a female privilege? 1.00

07:39:39.840 I mean, I think that women do face a lot of violent crime in our society as well. 0.98

07:39:44.140 So, I think it's just violent crime is the issue.

07:39:47.320 Not as much as it's a privilege for women because women still have to deal with it. 1.00

07:39:51.860 Right, but men also are SAID, so...

07:39:55.480 But it's different because it's, like, for women, part of... 1.00

07:39:59.140 Of the assaulting is because of their...

07:40:02.600 Because they're women. 1.00

07:40:03.340 They're women. 1.00

07:40:03.740 So, just to be clear, when bad things happen to women, it's because they're women. 1.00

07:40:07.820 And when bad things happen to men, it's just because.

07:40:09.820 I would say more specifically when it comes to SAID, it's a way for men to basically, like,

07:40:17.240 control and have dominance over women, usually without their consent.

07:40:21.320 And so, it is something that because you're a woman, you're more subjugated to than if 1.00

07:40:28.360 you're a man, you have the privilege of usually not being...

07:40:31.920 Yeah, I mean, I don't want to really go down...

07:40:34.260 I don't want to go down a deep rabbit hole of, like, the SA topic.

07:40:37.260 I was always confused, though.

07:40:39.000 And look, perhaps it's the case.

07:40:40.360 Maybe there's studies on it.

07:40:41.960 I'd be curious to see them.

07:40:43.320 This idea, like, this idea that it's about power, like, maybe it is, but to me, the thing 1.00

07:40:51.300 that would make the most sense is it's, like, just a piece of shit who's horny and wants 1.00

07:40:59.500 to have sex. 1.00

07:41:00.780 But, like, what gets them going? 0.99

07:41:02.680 Like, what makes them horny?

07:41:04.020 I think it's, like, the thrill of the power that they have over that other person, right?

07:41:08.280 I mean, it's psychological a bit than just the, like, physical...

07:41:13.560 Yeah, there could be, like, maybe they get off to, like...

07:41:17.240 Well, what if it's not about power?

07:41:18.880 They get off to harming somebody.

07:41:20.940 That is a power dynamic, though, because you're causing harm to someone.

07:41:25.340 They're weaker than you in that instance.

07:41:27.520 But in any case, you mentioned when I said that men are more likely to be victims of violent

07:41:31.940 crime, you said, well, but so are...

07:41:34.300 Women also are victims of violent crime, but they're not... 1.00

07:41:38.280 as likely to be victims of violent crime as men are.

07:41:41.480 Wait, is SA not violent crime?

07:41:43.080 Sorry.

07:41:43.480 It's a component.

07:41:44.260 Yeah, I would say it's...

07:41:45.360 Yeah, it falls under the umbrella.

07:41:47.100 It sounds like it's not counted in that for some reason.

07:41:50.500 Like, SA isn't considered the violent crime, but the different violent crime...

07:41:53.400 No, they counted in the statistics, and overall, my understanding is overall, including all

07:41:59.040 violent crimes, men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.

07:42:02.740 Interesting.

07:42:03.540 So, yeah, the numbers that I saw were the other way.

07:42:07.300 But I'd love to see that.

07:42:08.660 Yeah.

07:42:09.820 It's pretty well established.

07:42:12.820 You can look at crime statistics.

07:42:14.160 Yeah.

07:42:14.460 But that's why I wasn't sure if SA was in there.

07:42:16.360 Men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.

07:42:17.700 Or if they put that under DV.

07:42:18.640 The other thing, though, is the definition of grape, for example.

07:42:23.200 Yeah.

07:42:23.600 In certain jurisdictions, like, men can't be victims of grape.

07:42:29.160 That's awful.

07:42:30.460 Like...

07:42:31.340 That's terrible.

07:42:32.500 Yeah.

07:42:32.960 If a woman grapes a man, you might not believe that that's actually possible. 1.00

07:42:36.880 No, it's possible.

07:42:37.440 No, it's definitely possible.

07:42:38.040 But the actual definition of it, they don't consider a woman forcing herself onto a man.

07:42:45.100 They wouldn't consider that grape.

07:42:47.200 Do you know why they don't?

07:42:48.300 That's terrible.

07:42:49.560 Well, I think it's just the specific definition.

07:42:52.000 It's like there's like a penetrative component to the crime.

07:42:56.180 So, I suppose, like, a man could grape under that specific jurisdiction.

07:43:02.600 A man could grape another man is minor. 0.95

07:43:05.780 But even some of the definitions include the term, like, vagina, for example. 0.99

07:43:09.040 Yeah.

07:43:09.720 So, maybe that just needs to be updated.

07:43:11.280 It varies based on jurisdiction.

07:43:12.300 But it skews the data a little bit.

07:43:13.920 But I don't want to linger too long on that topic just because it's kind of a buzzkill.

07:43:20.480 But men are more privileged in society than...

07:43:23.280 Well, I'm moving on to Moon.

07:43:24.580 Why is that, Moon?

07:43:26.180 Oh, definitely, like, in careers.

07:43:28.460 Careers, okay.

07:43:29.260 Even, like, with health.

07:43:30.420 I mean, we talked about the fact that women have periods. 0.99

07:43:32.840 I mean, I know guys get prostate cancer and other things too.

07:43:35.660 But even just having the genitalia of a woman, we get ovarian cancer, cervical cancer. 1.00

07:43:41.200 Like, just all kinds of benefits sometimes, you know, to being a man that we women just don't have, you know.

07:43:49.900 Okay.

07:43:50.420 What about you?

07:43:51.180 Um, I'm not too sure about, like, wage gaps and things like that.

07:43:56.600 Doesn't exist, but...

07:43:58.180 See, I don't know anything about it yet.

07:43:59.680 But, um, I think it's more, like, for me, socially, I guess.

07:44:04.280 Like, just social aspects benefit men more than women.

07:44:08.140 Um, as well as just, like, general hate towards them.

07:44:12.680 And also the fact that there's, like, they're overturning a Roe v. Wade, which is, like, kind of crappy.

07:44:17.480 And then there's just other things that are just very oppressive.

07:44:23.900 Okay, there's a lot there.

07:44:25.060 Um, I won't be able to make counter-arguments for all...

07:44:28.120 Well, I could make counter-arguments for all of them, but for the sake of time, I can't.

07:44:31.820 Uh, it's not clear to me, at least with the abortion argument that you made, that that has anything to do with, uh, men being more privileged.

07:44:39.820 Because males have no reproductive rights whatsoever. 1.00

07:44:43.320 If the woman wants to get the abortion, the man can't say anything about it. 0.95

07:44:46.640 If the woman decides to keep the child, the man can't do anything about it. 0.93

07:44:50.160 So, I mean, men have zero reproductive rights. 1.00

07:44:53.340 Yeah, and I think that, I mean, it's unfair.

07:44:55.680 And I think that's why it needs to be, like, when it comes to abortion, it needs to be a, like, lengthy discussion between you and your partner.

07:45:04.700 Where you guys really weigh the pros and cons and things like that.

07:45:08.180 Uh, well, yeah, but you would agree that even if there was a lengthy conversation and the woman was leaning towards get the abortion and the man was leaning towards keep the child,

07:45:18.280 there's nothing that the man could actually do to force her to keep the child.

07:45:24.800 If she wanted the abortion, she can go get the abortion. 1.00

07:45:27.240 Assuming she's in a state where abortion is legal. 1.00

07:45:29.260 Yeah, that part.

07:45:30.740 Right.

07:45:31.480 Um, what about you?

07:45:33.140 Uh, why are men more privileged in society than women?

07:45:36.900 Why?

07:45:37.520 Are you talking about why?

07:45:38.800 Or how?

07:45:39.420 How?

07:45:39.800 How, rather.

07:45:40.580 Yeah, my bad.

07:45:41.300 In China, uh, employers will still ask about your marriage status, like, at interviews.

07:45:48.660 And, like, when I graduated from my bachelor, some of the boys from my class, they didn't have good grades at all, but they got really good jobs.

07:45:58.740 Just because, like, for English major, if you're a boy, like, they'll just take you.

07:46:03.820 Because all the others are, were girls. 0.86

07:46:06.600 But they weren't boys.

07:46:07.400 Hmm.

07:46:08.420 I can't, I'm not really particularly well-versed when it comes to, like, feminism in China or the, the gender, uh, the gender specifics in China.

07:46:19.520 Um, I, I, I am aware that there were, there are certain, uh, sexist practices in China.

07:46:26.420 Uh, you know, for example, I believe with the one-child policy, uh, there seemed to have been some preference towards, uh, male.

07:46:34.960 Yeah.

07:46:35.240 Uh, boy, boy babies.

07:46:37.400 Uh, but I'm just not well-versed enough in, uh, the, the Chinese, um, uh, gender politics or whatever to really be able to address that adequately.

07:46:51.560 But, uh, I'll just say this, though.

07:46:55.340 What do you got?

07:46:55.760 I'll just say this.

07:46:56.420 I'll just throw out my, my favorite argument on this.

07:46:59.680 All of women's collective grievances just fall completely flat in the face of a singular soul male grievance. 0.95

07:47:12.060 And that's war.

07:47:15.720 And you can look at that as military conscription.

07:47:18.220 I would even consider it within the purview of the volunteer, men who volunteer.

07:47:22.880 But forced military conscription, I would argue.

07:47:26.600 And there's, uh, the, the suffering that men have exclusively faced in wartime and in war, uh, cannot be understated.

07:47:37.800 I would argue that if we're looking at amount of suffering or amount of grievance, I don't think you can look at anything and tell me there's a singular female or even in totality of all.

07:47:53.460 But you put together all of women's grievances and they fall flat in the face of war and forced conscription. 1.00

07:48:02.180 Wouldn't that be, though, you guys are fighting other guys or fighting because, I don't know, some dictator is doing some crazy stuff overseas.

07:48:09.060 So, I mean, you're fighting other men, right?

07:48:11.240 And women didn't tell you to do, like, that system was set up by men. 1.00

07:48:15.720 We didn't set up.

07:48:16.740 Yeah, stop fighting.

07:48:18.100 Right.

07:48:18.820 Do away with it if we don't like it.

07:48:20.640 And just to be clear.

07:48:21.260 Stop killing each other.

07:48:22.140 Throughout history, there have been queens.

07:48:24.180 Yeah.

07:48:24.440 Currently, there are, uh, heads of state that are female that are involved in, to some degree, military conflicts. 0.94

07:48:30.840 Yeah.

07:48:31.200 Um, or I, let me revise that a little bit.

07:48:33.920 There are, uh, there are countries with, uh, female heads of state that are involved by proxy with certain wars and evens. 1.00

07:48:44.940 Anyways.

07:48:45.940 But queens, for example, they actually did a study. 0.99

07:48:48.880 They looked at kings versus queens and they actually found that queens were more likely to go to war than kings.

07:48:56.080 Was that because people were going after them because they were female or was that studied at all?

07:49:01.140 I'm just curious not to, you know what I mean?

07:49:03.400 I don't know the specifics of it, but my understanding of the study was, is that these monarchs, these queens, they were more likely to go to, uh, I don't know if it was start a war.

07:49:16.360 Hmm.

07:49:16.520 I'll have to further look into that.

07:49:17.920 But I believe it's, they were more likely to start a war than kings.

07:49:22.280 Yeah.

07:49:22.500 I'm curious on it because I'm wondering if it is that they're like, oh, there's a female head. 0.99

07:49:26.940 Oh, let's go after her. 0.94

07:49:27.780 We can grab her land. 1.00

07:49:28.680 And then she was having to defend.

07:49:30.240 But no, there was, but there was, um, what's the name of that one queen in, um, Bloody Mary. 1.00

07:49:34.560 Yeah.

07:49:35.000 She had a lot.

07:49:36.400 But I don't know.

07:49:36.900 You made a point of like, but it's men who are sending the men to war.

07:49:41.220 Yeah.

07:49:42.420 So like, what would that, why would that matter?

07:49:46.220 Like men are not this hive mind collective, like.

07:49:49.680 And neither are women though. 0.88

07:49:50.920 Yeah.

07:49:51.020 I'm not saying that though.

07:49:52.500 Well, you're saying like our, our, our collective grievances don't amount to the war thing.

07:49:57.400 And I mean, maybe so, but I guess how does that.

07:50:00.700 Well, so when I'm talking about collective grievances, the difference here is, so you've, you're talking about something else.

07:50:07.140 You're saying, well, who you're asking, whose fault is that?

07:50:11.280 Whose fault is that?

07:50:12.640 That doesn't really relate to my statement as it relates to grievance comparison.

07:50:19.940 So.

07:50:20.660 So you're saying y'all should be able to cry more than us because you have to go to war.

07:50:23.880 Is that what it is?

07:50:24.820 Uh, I'm not saying men have to cry more.

07:50:29.400 I'm saying if, for example, we're looking at, if we're, if we're looking at things through the land, through the lens of, uh, oppression or hurt or damage or suffering, uh, or privilege or lack thereof.

07:50:45.840 Then this specific thing, I think is worse and has caused more suffering in the specific gender men in this case, then all of women's collective grievances.

07:50:57.900 So you add all the up.

07:50:59.120 Oh, we couldn't vote for a period of time.

07:51:01.860 And, uh, we couldn't, uh, we, we couldn't, women can vote. 1.00

07:51:07.360 But you, uh, the claims about SA, the claims about, um, gender gap, the claims of whatever it is, add them all together.

07:51:17.080 Not as bad as all the men who have died or been forced to go to war.

07:51:22.280 I think it's all of it to that though, that, okay, obviously dying is the worst situation, especially in war.

07:51:30.720 However, think about the women who collectively lost their husbands to war. 0.98

07:51:35.900 They're grieving.

07:51:37.040 Obviously dying is the worst situation, but grieving that death, having to raise the children and then having all of that collective stuff that you kind of just downplayed a bit.

07:51:45.740 Uh, it's, it's, there's a lot of layers to a woman's grieving.

07:51:51.380 I'm not saying, no, I'm saying that obviously dying is, but then, but who's left to take care of when the men die?

07:51:58.760 It's like the women who they've left behind and obviously like dying, like I've said, is the worst situation in war.

07:52:06.940 However, life does continue to go on after death and who's there to have to.

07:52:11.720 Oh, I see what you're saying.

07:52:12.900 Go ahead.

07:52:13.000 To deal with the ramifications.

07:52:13.920 It's the women who you already admitted have been through these traumatic situations.

07:52:19.300 And I'm not downplaying men's part in war is obviously completely traumatic.

07:52:26.420 We see that.

07:52:27.320 Um, it's just different types of trauma.

07:52:29.740 Like women have to carry with them the trauma of having a husband who's died in war as well.

07:52:34.440 Yeah.

07:52:34.880 So is your position that, uh, I mean, you didn't indicate it here.

07:52:38.420 Do you think, uh, women are the primary victims of war?

07:52:40.660 No, because dying is obviously.

07:52:45.180 Okay.

07:52:45.400 So you're saying men are the primary victims of war, but, and I don't disagree with you. 1.00

07:52:48.840 Well, I also wanted to just kind of recap in saying that, that I don't think that it should really be taken as a issue of the sexes or genders.

07:52:57.100 I think it should be taken that we collectively as men and women are actually basically fighting against like the 1%, the people who are in power, who are causing wars to actually happen.

07:53:09.780 Like we were saying, kings and queens, we're turning it into a gender argument. 1.00

07:53:13.240 But like we just said, both sexes, genders, whatever we want to call it, suffer immensely from war.

07:53:20.620 Men suffer from war. 0.64

07:53:22.000 Sure.

07:53:22.480 Okay.

07:53:23.060 Are you disputing that?

07:53:24.640 I mean, death is the ultimate suffering.

07:53:27.300 So I'm not going to say that that's not true.

07:53:30.800 However, women have to carry on life after death. 1.00

07:53:35.500 And that is a terrible process of grieving.

07:53:38.920 And then having to take care of children that are still alive who actually don't have a parent in the home anymore.

07:53:46.940 So it's, it's terrible all around.

07:53:50.920 Yeah.

07:53:51.660 So, yes.

07:53:52.780 So I'll, I'll engage there.

07:53:54.000 So I think the, the, where I would be, where I would begin with this is that you would, you would also have to acknowledge that men have male relatives too.

07:54:05.020 So that would be further, not just female suffering when men die, but also male suffering when men die, whether it's fathers, brothers, friends, or sons.

07:54:15.040 And I agree that those men usually have to step in and kind of take care of the children of the, yeah, in the community.

07:54:22.000 My next point would be though, is that while I'll agree with you that men aren't the exclusive sufferers when it comes to war.

07:54:29.880 Yeah.

07:54:30.820 Women also suffer. 0.97

07:54:32.100 Children suffer.

07:54:32.840 Boys and girls suffer when it comes to war, war, everybody suffers.

07:54:37.360 Right.

07:54:37.720 But I think it's a, it's going to be a hard sell to tell me that when we're looking at something that's gender specific, in this case, every single country in the world, I think, except for maybe there might be some small one.

07:54:51.320 I'm not aware of, or Israel, where, uh, forced military conscription is exclusively male in all the other countries absent, uh, maybe one or two.

07:55:01.320 In any case, it's, uh, I, it doesn't matter because of all the major countries, only men are subject to forced military conscription.

07:55:09.920 Do you have something?

07:55:11.320 Yeah.

07:55:11.720 Actually, um, recently there's a bill imposed certain states.

07:55:15.220 You do have to sign up for, uh, women do have to sign up for drafts. 1.00

07:55:20.320 There's, uh, it's, it's not, it's not true.

07:55:25.880 It's, it is, it's often, it's women can volunteer to join the military, but there's no, first off, it wouldn't be at the, it wouldn't be at the state level that this would be, be done. 1.00

07:55:37.180 The selective service system is a federal system.

07:55:40.380 So it'd be, it would be done at the federal level.

07:55:43.100 So there's this idea that on this individual state level, some of the women can be drafted. 1.00

07:55:47.840 It's just not true.

07:55:48.780 Um, and there's no bill. 0.94

07:55:51.040 I can't, maybe there's some dumb bill that's been introduced in a state legislature.

07:55:55.660 I can't imagine it's enforceable. 0.52

07:55:57.780 Uh, I don't, I don't even believe that that's true, but it would be at the federal level.

07:56:02.440 Oh no.

07:56:03.300 See, I think it's more of a class war situation than it is the actual like gender war that we want to make it into.

07:56:09.300 Because like we just said, men are suffering immensely from going to war.

07:56:13.520 Women are suffering immensely from not having their husbands around in the home to care for the children. 1.00

07:56:19.180 Everyone's suffering.

07:56:20.520 And I think it's collectively because like usually the people suffering the most are the lower class.

07:56:24.760 Cause those are the ones who are getting drafted or deciding to go into the army.

07:56:29.860 Okay.

07:56:30.320 So I want to finish making my point here.

07:56:33.800 Okay.

07:56:34.180 So I'm trying to remember, recall exactly what, oh, okay.

07:56:39.340 You were saying, well, the, the wives and the, the mothers and the daughters, they all suffer, right?

07:56:45.340 When men die in war.

07:56:46.680 Um, what would you think if I made the following argument that in rebuttal to the pain that women experience when they're essayed, I said, well, their brothers and their fathers and their boyfriends and their husbands suffer when women, and I'm, I'm using that to miss, to redirect and misdirect from your claim about the suffering.

07:57:12.080 It causes women when they're essayed and I say, yeah, but let's think about the men in their lives.

07:57:18.640 You would find that objectionable.

07:57:20.380 I'm sure.

07:57:20.960 Well, they're the ones doing the essaying usually the brothers and the boyfriends, but men in general.

07:57:27.880 So it does hurt the, the people in the women's life, the men in the women's lives who are getting essayed.

07:57:34.540 It does hurt them because it hurts their reputation.

07:57:37.040 And also like they could say something to other men to try to help prevent these things.

07:57:43.600 It's, I don't feel like you're actually contending with my argument.

07:57:46.580 So I'll give you a different example.

07:57:48.220 Uh, when women go through pregnancy, it's really hard for the husbands.

07:57:54.320 And I mean, husbands have a part in making a child, so it should be hard for the husbands as well.

07:57:59.760 Well, I don't think it should be, but, uh, yeah, I mean, if your wife or the person who you are having a baby with is suffering, then like we were talking about way at the beginning of this conversation, you should have empathy for your partner.

07:58:12.940 So if your partner is having a hard time, you then also would be having a hard time as well.

07:58:18.360 If I said because of the frustrations or whatever that men experience during women's pregnancy, and I used it to try to dismiss your point about the suffering that women experience or the pain that women experience or the discomfort that women experience when it comes to pregnancy and childbirth, you would find this laughable.

07:58:36.000 I mean, to a certain degree, because it's like physically happening to the woman where it's like more of a mental strain for a man or like financial strain.

07:58:44.600 But you can't genuinely tell me that you would say that the discomfort and pain that women experience during pregnancy and childbirth is anywhere near comparable to the, uh, supposed, uh, frustration or pain, mental pain that the man might feel.

07:59:01.060 Uh, cause it could be, you know, seeing your wife giving birth and she's in physical pain.

07:59:06.000 That could be distressing to a man, but you would never say that that's anywhere near approaching the woman who's actually going through the childbirth.

07:59:14.160 You'd never say that it's anywhere approaching the level of pain or suffering she's going through.

07:59:19.720 That's true.

07:59:20.880 Okay.

07:59:21.800 So I think we're going to have to agree that the suffering that men experiences war is dwarfs the, the, look, just to be clear, if you lose, uh, if you're a woman and you lose, uh, uh,

07:59:35.740 a son or you lose a husband or you, whatever it is, you lose a male figure in your life in war, that's terrible.

07:59:43.900 That's going to be an awful experience.

07:59:45.320 That's that you're going to, you're going to be grieving.

07:59:47.480 That's going to be awful.

07:59:48.700 But the thing is, is that people can come back from grief.

07:59:52.860 People come back from grief all the time.

07:59:54.780 People, parents die, grandparents die, and people get back to their life.

08:00:01.140 When you're dead, you're dead. 0.51

08:00:03.280 It's final. 0.97

08:00:04.380 It's over.

08:00:05.120 Your life's over.

08:00:07.440 I'm saying in regards to comparing women and men's suffering, I would say, obviously, dying is the worst situation.

08:00:17.960 However, it is final.

08:00:20.440 However, the person who is grieving that, like I was saying, you have to raise potentially children alone now in a situation.

08:00:27.380 So it's an ongoing suffering on top of the suffering we already previously talked about where you were saying, like, women couldn't vote. 0.97

08:00:38.360 Women didn't have as many rights. 1.00

08:00:39.680 Like, it's adding trauma.

08:00:42.940 I know that's a buzzword.

08:00:44.960 Well, adding trauma, what do you mean?

08:00:47.200 Like, if women? 0.99

08:00:48.280 If the husband dies in war?

08:00:50.380 Yeah, that's traumatic.

08:00:51.500 Yeah, I'm not disputing that it's going to be really bad if your significant other dies or your brother dies or whatever it is.

08:01:00.920 But if you're trying to compare the suffering between men and women, women's, after that point, like, you die, you're done. 0.66

08:01:07.200 Women, it's ongoing suffering. 1.00

08:01:09.560 You're forgetting one important thing, though, is that the suffering that men experience in war is not strictly related to death.

08:01:19.300 That's true.

08:01:19.820 There is the PTSD of it.

08:01:21.340 There's PTSD. 1.00

08:01:22.380 There's the actual, like, in the shit. 0.99

08:01:26.640 You know, like, if you look at historical wars, for example, and if we're allowed to say that women's historical grievances are, you know, if you bring up women often or feminists often bring up women not being able to vote. 0.99

08:01:39.980 Okay.

08:01:40.220 So I'm going to bring up World War I, World War II.

08:01:42.660 These were absolutely brutal wars.

08:01:43.380 These were absolutely brutal wars, trench warfare, totally catastrophic.

08:01:46.860 What they witnessed, what they experienced, absolutely terrible.

08:01:51.480 They came back with just either debilitating physical injuries if they didn't die or just mentally completely thrashed and destroyed.

08:02:01.220 And, you know, shell shock, war fatigue, or there's a different term for it with fatigue, PTSD, as it's now called.

08:02:09.380 I completely understand.

08:02:10.500 And I think that if, instead of having conversations about which gender is suffering more, we can collectively agree we're all suffering under this system.

08:02:22.040 And so why don't we band together and say, hey, we're all collectively suffering here as a lower class people, and it's really the people above us in, like, the top 1% who are causing these wars to happen, who are profiting off of us and this collective trauma.

08:02:38.020 Yeah, I have a response to this.

08:02:39.700 All right.

08:02:40.160 Do you think there should be a revolution?

08:02:45.200 I'm not exactly sure what should happen, to be honest.

08:02:47.300 Are you, in terms of your political leanings, would you consider yourself, like, a communist or socialist?

08:02:53.840 I would say I lean more towards socialism.

08:02:56.620 However, I don't really have, like, this utopian concept personally.

08:03:02.500 I'm not exactly sure what the right answer is moving forward.

08:03:05.680 But you think the, you're saying the people who don't have the means of production should band together and overthrow the bourgeoisie?

08:03:17.300 I'm not exactly sure if an overthrowing is exactly what needs to happen.

08:03:21.300 I don't know if it could even happen.

08:03:23.160 But clarify, you said the, what, the lower and middle class should band together.

08:03:28.420 Yeah.

08:03:28.800 And do what?

08:03:29.660 Do what?

08:03:31.100 I think that instead of having conversations where we're saying women suffer more, no, men suffer more,

08:03:37.560 we should collectively say we as lower class people are all suffering together, and we should definitely try to implement some change.

08:03:45.680 I don't know if it's an entire revolution.

08:03:48.800 I don't think that is potentially even possible with just how life is nowadays.

08:03:53.240 However, I do think that having conversations together instead of trying to play trauma dump Olympics is going to be the answer.

08:04:07.020 Like, we're all collectively suffering when it comes to things like war, and war is typically something that the upper class uses towards the lower class to keep them in place and to cause suffering, like we just said.

08:04:20.260 But, I mean, you're talking about, okay, so I mean, to what end do you want the lower and middle class to band together?

08:04:28.300 I'm assuming it would be like revolutionary.

08:04:30.700 If we look historically at revolutions, you look at the communist revolution in, well, the USSR, Russia, well, it became the USSR.

08:04:38.280 Did that, I mean, did they not have a military?

08:04:44.760 Did they not send men to war? 0.80

08:04:46.460 In fact, my understanding, if you look at the communist revolution, World War II, they lost a fuck ton of men. 0.96

08:04:56.680 A fuck ton of men died in World War II who were part of the Red Army, the Soviet Army. 0.70

08:05:01.740 I don't have an ultimate answer of a utopia here.

08:05:06.600 I just think my theory is that instead of making it where we're competing against who's suffering more, we should have a collective mindset that we're all suffering under this system.

08:05:19.460 But hold on.

08:05:20.420 Isn't that feminism? 1.00

08:05:22.880 Women suffer more. 1.00

08:05:24.800 Women are disadvantaged as compared to men.

08:05:27.240 So you're trying to disregard my arguments as to male suffering and say, well, we shouldn't play these games of oppression Olympics, but this is a game that feminism started, right? 0.99

08:05:41.240 So you're going to have to completely dismiss feminism and you're going to have to say feminism's bullshit. 1.00

08:05:49.780 Feminism sucks. 1.00

08:05:51.580 Women's rights advocacy, like all that. 1.00

08:05:53.860 You have to dismiss all that and say it's bullshit because that's exactly what feminism is, comparing men to women, saying here's how women have it worse compared to men. 1.00

08:06:06.660 Well, they have had it in regards to their rights and abilities worse than men until very recently. 0.98

08:06:13.860 I disagree.

08:06:14.400 I think men have had it worse, not just – men have it worse today and historically.

08:06:19.860 I mean, it depends on the man and the situation.

08:06:24.940 I don't think that's generalizing that.

08:06:27.140 I'm not sure.

08:06:27.920 If anyone else wants to –

08:06:28.860 Yeah, feminism, yeah. 1.00

08:06:30.600 Look, there were men who were homeless in the 1910s and there were women who were like living incredible – they were part of the upper class and they were living great lives.

08:06:43.280 And there were also women who were also on the streets? 1.00

08:06:45.040 Well, actually, I mean, when it comes to homelessness, men are much more likely to be homeless, but both in modern day and historically.

08:06:52.980 But she was trying to make the point, well, you have to – it depends on the person and it's like, well, we can look back historically or modern day, we can find evidence of women who have it worse than a particular man.

08:07:04.780 And we can look at a particular man who has it worse than a particular woman.

08:07:08.460 Yeah.

08:07:08.780 It's not really helpful.

08:07:09.440 I don't think women are saying that we have had it worse than men.

08:07:13.880 That's feminism. 1.00

08:07:14.560 We're just saying –

08:07:15.280 Feminism just means equal rights. 1.00

08:07:17.480 You're talking about ultra-feminism. 1.00

08:07:18.980 Not worse.

08:07:19.800 Feminism just means equal rights for men and women and then ultra-feminism is what you're describing. 0.98

08:07:23.660 Feminism has always been a grievance movement related to women have it worse. 1.00

08:07:30.240 That's it.

08:07:30.620 I don't know anyone who's saying that we have worse or that it's just not good.

08:07:35.480 It's not who's worse.

08:07:36.460 We want to vote.

08:07:37.200 That was it.

08:07:37.840 It was like feminism. 1.00

08:07:38.700 Hey, we want to vote.

08:07:39.540 How about that?

08:07:40.180 And then we're like, hey, you also suffer.

08:07:42.380 Why don't we do something about it?

08:07:43.480 What's the solution?

08:07:44.600 Okay.

08:07:44.940 But so hold on.

08:07:46.160 So you said feminism is an equality movement, right? 0.93

08:07:49.400 Men and women for equal rights is the definition of it.

08:07:53.540 Does that include gender roles?

08:07:56.320 What do you mean by gender roles?

08:07:57.300 Well, I mean, there's been a big push by feminists to dismantle and destroy gender roles, especially traditional gender roles as it relates to women. 1.00

08:08:05.160 But I want to-

08:08:05.980 Ultra-feminism. 1.00

08:08:07.360 So there's different levels.

08:08:08.800 We even learned that in psychology a long time ago.

08:08:10.540 There's actually like different levels of feminism. 1.00

08:08:13.040 And then you have people that are like extremely egregious.

08:08:17.520 Look, it's mainstream feminism. 1.00

08:08:20.940 Mainstream feminism is about destroying traditional gender roles for women. 1.00

08:08:25.820 Mainstream feminism is about grievances. 1.00

08:08:29.620 Mainstream feminism puts forward this, I think, dubious patriarchy theory. 0.99

08:08:38.100 And it paints men as the oppressors and women as the oppressed.

08:08:42.040 This isn't like fringe radical feminism. 1.00

08:08:45.600 Mainstream, mainline feminism is patriarchy theory, women's grievances, and men oppressors, women oppressed. 0.98

08:08:55.080 That's basic patriarchy theory you're going to learn at like any college in a feminist studies program. 1.00

08:09:00.980 I wish that we didn't label it, though, because back in the day, we decided to start labeling it that and then going, okay, mainstream feminism. 0.99

08:09:09.020 And then what happened was it was like, oh, crap. 0.87

08:09:10.920 You know, there goes the labels on that, just like overdoing it with narcissism and trauma. 0.95

08:09:14.820 And now when you actually have what the real word actually means, you don't get to use it anymore.

08:09:19.760 Because the moment I say feminism, everyone's going to have a trigger. 1.00

08:09:22.320 I mean, it's always been bad.

08:09:23.680 No, it was.

08:09:24.200 It's always been bad.

08:09:25.040 And I'll explain.

08:09:26.260 No, no, no.

08:09:27.040 I think that women coming to the table and going, hey, we want to come to the table for you, too. 1.00

08:09:32.920 I don't think that that's a bad thing.

08:09:34.400 I don't think y'all should go to war.

08:09:35.560 I have two sons.

08:09:36.500 Yeah.

08:09:36.780 I don't think that would go to war before I send any of my boys to fight.

08:09:40.540 But that's not a we suffer more versus you.

08:09:43.580 No, yeah.

08:09:44.460 Men suffer so much.

08:09:46.040 We're not sending y'all.

08:09:46.460 We want it to be over.

08:09:47.560 We would just rather.

08:09:48.820 It's systematic sexism towards men.

08:09:52.100 You're absolutely right.

08:09:53.040 Who's doing it, though?

08:09:53.860 Not us.

08:09:54.240 It doesn't matter.

08:09:54.860 It wouldn't matter.

08:09:55.920 So look.

08:09:56.100 None of us are disagreeing with you.

08:09:57.620 But it's men.

08:09:58.380 But it's men who do it.

08:09:59.460 I'll tell you.

08:10:00.280 Look.

08:10:01.120 Men as a group didn't create male-only selective service.

08:10:07.080 Men don't maintain it. 1.00

08:10:09.620 Like, I as a man have no more say in how selective service is run than does a woman. 1.00

08:10:17.460 So we as women are trying to say that we feel for you, and we don't want that to happen

08:10:21.820 to you as men.

08:10:23.040 And we want a seat at the table to vote against it.

08:10:25.520 Yeah.

08:10:25.880 We want to be able to vote.

08:10:27.380 But here's where I'm going to get you guys.

08:10:29.800 So here's where I'm going to get you guys.

08:10:32.080 And there are a couple things I want to say.

08:10:34.560 But really quick, before I address the draft thing, you were saying how feminism, like 1.00

08:10:42.500 feminism has never been about equality. 0.98

08:10:44.820 And I can prove it.

08:10:45.580 So women got the right to vote in 1920. 0.90

08:10:48.700 Yes.

08:10:49.000 Right before that, just a few years before that, was the most catastrophic, brutal, worldwide

08:10:54.720 war that has ever occurred.

08:10:56.620 World War I, right?

08:10:57.940 Yeah.

08:10:58.100 I forget the exact numbers.

08:11:00.000 I think it's 10 million, 20 million deaths or casualties.

08:11:03.960 Casualties would include injuries and so forth.

08:11:06.920 Completely brutal.

08:11:08.640 Just look, if you guys want to have a glimpse of the understanding of how brutal World War

08:11:15.680 I is, go watch or, well, you could also read the book, All Quiet on the Western Front.

08:11:20.940 I think it's on Netflix.

08:11:22.220 All Quiet on the Western Front.

08:11:24.200 Totally brutal.

08:11:24.980 I think most people don't, no offense to you guys, do you guys, like, have you seen like

08:11:30.400 even a historical fictional war movie?

08:11:33.340 Yes.

08:11:33.600 Yeah.

08:11:33.860 Like, yeah, a lot.

08:11:35.080 War is brutal in ways you can, and those movies don't even capture 1% of the brutality and

08:11:41.960 suffering men have experienced.

08:11:43.480 Yeah.

08:11:43.640 But World War I happened a few years before women's suffrage in 1920.

08:11:51.660 Why is it the case that women were able to secure the right to vote without any corresponding 1.00

08:11:57.460 responsibility?

08:11:58.940 Men have duties. 0.98

08:12:01.660 Women don't. 1.00

08:12:03.060 What kind of duties are you talking about?

08:12:04.380 Were we trying to?

08:12:05.940 Did we want those duties?

08:12:07.080 So, a lot of women didn't want to get the right to vote because they were worried if 1.00

08:12:11.160 they did get the right to vote, they would be treated, they would, because they were fighting

08:12:15.340 for equality, they would be treated as equals to men, meaning they would be subject to forced

08:12:20.060 military conscription, right?

08:12:21.820 This is, something that's coming up as you're talking, though, is interesting because it feels

08:12:25.820 like when it was feminism, and don't get me wrong, it really was from the beginning, 0.99

08:12:29.660 there was a delineation between feminism and ultra-feminism. 1.00

08:12:32.480 I do remember that from 20 years ago.

08:12:34.180 It does feel like there's this kind of counterpoint here going on that it's like, a lot of us

08:12:40.420 are coming to the table and go, yeah, you guys shouldn't be suffering, and you shouldn't

08:12:43.420 be suffering at the hands of other men, you shouldn't be suffering at the hands of women, 1.00

08:12:46.680 we are coming to the table, it's like, yes, two things coexist, we're trying to make it

08:12:50.340 a causality and a thing, instead of it doing two separate things, yes, women, right to 1.00

08:12:55.420 vote, doing certain things, and at the same time, men suffering is terrible, and I have

08:13:00.720 friends that have been going in hard on trying to get more money to the VA, and more work

08:13:05.300 for men, and more, you know, all kinds of things, because it does affect our entire community,

08:13:09.380 it affects everyone, obviously, we've said that, in different ways, sure, on the war

08:13:14.960 thing, whatever, but, not whatever, but you know what I mean, it affects, you guys come

08:13:19.640 home, there's a lot of PTSD, the women takes it too, there's PTSD in the home, the child gets

08:13:24.460 PTSD, all kinds of things, it, sure, what's the solution?

08:13:29.220 Well, I'll address that in just a moment, I just want to make it clear, though, feminism

08:13:32.820 has never been about equality, and I'll prove it, so, 1914, 1918, World War I, 1920, women 0.99

08:13:40.380 get the right to vote, but they also don't have any, like I said, corresponding responsibility

08:13:45.200 as it relates to forced military conscription, they're, they're exempt from having to register

08:13:50.960 with selective service, and they're exempt from the draft, right?

08:13:54.840 And then women suffer to do that. 1.00

08:13:56.640 And so, mind you, it's been a century, right, we've had a century of feminism, I don't hear 0.98

08:14:01.860 women, or, excuse me, I don't hear feminists advocating for, let's equalize the draft, I 1.00

08:14:07.440 don't hear that.

08:14:08.040 You do.

08:14:08.860 No, but let me just...

08:14:10.280 You have it in Israel.

08:14:11.100 Let me know more trying to...

08:14:12.780 Stop, stop, stop, I'd like to finish my point, I'd like to finish my point.

08:14:16.200 And so, it's never been about equality.

08:14:18.300 Just to be clear, feminism is a woman, the most charitable, I'll be, is a women's advocacy

08:14:25.020 movement.

08:14:26.040 I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of misandry in the movement.

08:14:30.840 I think, I think...

08:14:32.160 I can see that.

08:14:32.980 Yeah, I agree.

08:14:34.120 So, it's, it's man-hating, I think it's man-hating, patriarchy theory, total conspiracy theory,

08:14:39.460 it paints men as predators, it paints women as perpetual victims, men are the oppressors,

08:14:46.240 women are the oppressed. 1.00

08:14:47.020 First, it's, feminism's never been about equality, but if I'm going to be as charitable

08:14:50.740 as I can be, feminism is a woman's advocacy movement. 0.70

08:14:54.600 And there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy.

08:14:57.760 But to try to parade that as some sort of equality movement, if you're advocating for

08:15:03.720 women, great. 1.00

08:15:04.660 What does that have to do with equality?

08:15:06.800 Absolutely nothing.

08:15:07.820 And I'll continue to prove it once more.

08:15:09.440 So, as related to the draft, again, it's 2025, women have had over a century to equalize 1.00

08:15:15.760 this, not equalized, feminism, women have plenty of political capital. 1.00

08:15:21.840 Most elections are dictated by women, except for this most recent one. 0.84

08:15:26.840 Women make up the majority of the voter base.

08:15:29.980 If you guys wanted to, you could, with your political capital as women, could get this 1.00

08:15:36.060 passed.

08:15:36.920 But it's just not, one, it's just not politically tenable because women enjoy their privilege 1.00

08:15:41.740 of not being subject to military conscription.

08:15:45.320 I think it's, I certainly don't think it's a privilege that men are the exclusive, I'll

08:15:51.840 just say, victims of forced military conscription.

08:15:54.260 You're talking about a couple things, though, in there, too.

08:15:55.960 You're also adding in power.

08:15:57.240 Sorry, continue.

08:15:58.420 Just a few more things here on this.

08:16:00.700 There's other examples, too, where, look, outside of giving the examples, I'll just say

08:16:06.200 this.

08:16:06.860 If conceivably, equality, a form of equality would not stand to benefit a woman, but it 0.99

08:16:16.600 would be equality, like we would agree that there could be a form of equality that could

08:16:22.240 be to the detriment of women, feminism will not fight or advocate for said equality if 1.00

08:16:29.500 it conceivably comes, like I said, to the detriment of women. 1.00

08:16:34.420 And this is exactly how the feminism movement is not an equality movement. 0.68

08:16:39.860 I think that there's 50-50 in that, and I agree with that. 0.97

08:16:42.420 I think that, that's why I said, I was like, there's a part in there that we're also starting

08:16:46.060 to talk on now, which is privilege and power, because now all of a sudden, now all of a

08:16:50.300 sudden, when you've been at the bottom, so to speak, or you look at yourself as the bottom,

08:16:54.020 when you view yourself as the oppressed, sometimes what happens is if you don't heal from that

08:16:58.320 mindset, you start to get power or you start to get that privilege, and suddenly you don't

08:17:03.040 really want to have that taken away or you don't want the full part of it.

08:17:07.880 So women with each other, we have our own communication. 1.00

08:17:11.760 We have our own, like, you know, you said it, we talked about it earlier, women shame other 1.00

08:17:15.440 women. 0.81

08:17:15.860 Women are still, like, we're still working on, for instance, when I tell women that I'm

08:17:20.220 a coach for men, they're like, oh good, they need it.

08:17:22.760 And immediately I'm like, no, we do too.

08:17:25.120 And that's, it's just ridiculous, because if you don't heal, regardless of who hurt you,

08:17:31.280 you're just going to wind up giving that pain to someone else or continuing to take it on.

08:17:34.940 So there's a lot to be said that it's like, yeah, we hear you, we know.

08:17:38.000 There's a lot of women who would love that right to be able to go into war and do that, 1.00

08:17:42.620 and some countries have that, and that's what they wanted.

08:17:45.560 So we're looking at, like, you know, the Karens of the world, too. 0.99

08:17:50.300 We still have to battle. 1.00

08:17:51.260 And other women have to battle that shit. 1.00

08:17:53.500 You had something? 1.00

08:17:54.240 Yeah, that's why I think now this is more of a class issue than it is a gender issue, 0.99

08:17:59.360 because women can fight in war and actively choose to participate because of the benefits 0.95

08:18:05.480 that going into the service gets them, because they're usually lower class people.

08:18:11.960 Yeah, they can agree with you that women can volunteer to join the military. 1.00

08:18:16.980 Yeah, so it's like, it didn't fully, like, equal out, obviously, because women haven't 1.00

08:18:20.220 been able to for so long until more recently.

08:18:22.680 But women still actively do go into the service. 1.00

08:18:27.500 Yeah.

08:18:27.720 Well, voluntarily, but even if you look at the volunteer...

08:18:31.480 You can't do it voluntarily, though, if you're somewhat forced into it because of your class.

08:18:36.500 No, they're never...

08:18:36.860 Hold on.

08:18:37.260 Nobody's forced to join the military.

08:18:39.740 You're not forced, but there is a pressure when you are of lower class.

08:18:43.180 No, look, I cannot...

08:18:44.200 Yeah, because there's...

08:18:45.100 There's an incentive.

08:18:46.420 There's incentive.

08:18:47.240 There's an incentive, but there's also an incentive to get a job at McDonald's.

08:18:51.540 There is?

08:18:52.220 Yeah.

08:18:52.420 There's more incentive, though, when it comes to the military because they prey on the lower 0.80

08:18:57.320 class.

08:18:57.840 I mean, I'm talking to recruiters now, and they are telling me the same thing.

08:19:02.000 Like, for me, being, like, a single mom and student, it made sense for me to enlist because,

08:19:07.500 I mean, that's housing, that's school, that's health, that's dental.

08:19:10.360 Yeah.

08:19:10.620 My kids are covered.

08:19:11.780 Those are all selling points.

08:19:13.080 Those are all selling points.

08:19:14.420 And so if you're already at a lower class status and you're already struggling, you're already

08:19:18.840 disparaged, you're already those things, somebody offering you pretty much a set future for

08:19:24.300 the rest of your life to sign up for it, it's going to look pretty good.

08:19:28.880 I mean, like, it does.

08:19:29.880 That's why you have people enlisting every day, women and me. 1.00

08:19:32.100 I do want to...

08:19:32.840 We have women in our family that have enlisted a lot, too.

08:19:35.880 I'm going to address really quick just the draft thing, right?

08:19:38.460 And I think this will maybe change your mind.

08:19:40.100 And so you guys all said, well, maybe we should just get...

08:19:42.780 War is so bad, there should never be war. 0.99

08:19:45.620 Oh, we wish, but that's fucking utopia. 0.99

08:19:48.140 It doesn't exist. 0.98

08:19:49.100 You know, and there should never be crime, and nobody should ever have any cancer or injury.

08:19:54.980 Are we talking about Norway?

08:19:56.280 I'm sure we can all agree.

08:19:57.240 Are we describing Norway and Switzerland?

08:19:59.600 We can all agree that, yeah, how the world should be.

08:20:02.660 But if we're looking at how the world is, right, war is going to be a reality.

08:20:08.960 Yeah.

08:20:09.020 Like, there's no escaping it, and even if, as a country, you're like, well, I don't want

08:20:15.540 to have an army, you do so at your own peril, because if you do get invaded, you've just

08:20:23.700 lost your sovereign nation.

08:20:27.760 And so the point I would make is this, and I think I'll perhaps change your mind on the

08:20:32.480 draft.

08:20:33.600 Look, I don't think the draft is good, but I think it's one of those...

08:20:37.260 There's a specific term for this, not a necessity, but a...

08:20:42.840 Necessary evil?

08:20:44.020 Sort of a necessary evil.

08:20:46.780 So, which I will acknowledge men are the victims of, and it's awful, and it shouldn't happen,

08:20:57.740 but it does, but I'll explain it like this.

08:21:01.020 Here's the scenario.

08:21:04.060 I...

08:21:04.540 This...

08:21:05.460 Well, should I use China?

08:21:06.840 Okay, we'll use China.

08:21:08.440 All right, I'm gonna...

08:21:09.620 So, okay.

08:21:10.520 Here, we live in the United States, right?

08:21:12.200 Uh-huh.

08:21:12.780 We live in the United States.

08:21:14.900 And China...

08:21:16.320 We know China's gonna invade our country. 0.99

08:21:19.500 It's hypothetical.

08:21:20.620 No!

08:21:21.460 Definitely not.

08:21:22.740 I know, I know.

08:21:22.960 We're not invading any country at all.

08:21:24.380 No, I know.

08:21:24.880 I'm just...

08:21:25.640 I'm just...

08:21:26.140 Fine, I'll change it to...

08:21:28.180 Russia? 0.61

08:21:30.160 No, I'm gonna pick...

08:21:31.220 I'm gonna pick...

08:21:32.320 Let's do Kazakhstan. 0.72

08:21:34.740 Yes.

08:21:35.140 Kazakhstan becomes a superpower somehow.

08:21:37.960 I don't know.

08:21:39.400 And... 0.90

08:21:39.960 Or we just become, like, really shitty. 0.88

08:21:41.660 I don't know. 0.98

08:21:42.000 And this country, though, they're going to invade us. 0.99

08:21:46.800 And this country is evil.

08:21:49.520 And we know what's gonna...

08:21:51.000 And they invaded another country near them.

08:21:54.020 And we know what happened to that country.

08:21:56.240 This is what happened to that country.

08:21:57.920 They killed all the men. 0.85

08:22:00.260 And then they took all the women as war brides. 0.86

08:22:04.160 That's happened.

08:22:04.960 Yeah.

08:22:05.440 And, I mean, historically, yes, this has happened.

08:22:07.420 That's happened.

08:22:08.000 And they essay all the women.

08:22:09.640 Yep.

08:22:12.000 And we know that this country, when they do invade us, in, say, a year, they're planning

08:22:16.720 the invasion, we find out.

08:22:18.060 In a year, they're gonna invade us. 0.97

08:22:21.160 If we don't draft men to fight for the country, they're gonna kill all the men anyways. 0.99

08:22:26.500 And then they're gonna essay all the women. 0.97

08:22:29.160 Under these circumstances, are you, as women, here's the entailment. 1.00

08:22:33.540 If you don't...

08:22:35.080 Let's say, and you all get to vote on if there should be a draft that happens.

08:22:38.600 If you don't vote to draft the men to go to war, there's not gonna be enough of a military

08:22:47.960 force to repel the enemy.

08:22:51.000 There's just not...

08:22:51.980 You have to force the men to fight.

08:22:53.500 Because the volunteer force isn't strong enough to repel the enemy.

08:22:58.240 Question.

08:22:58.740 If you don't, you're gonna get essayed and all the men are gonna die. 0.96

08:23:01.560 Yeah.

08:23:01.760 Do you vote to draft the men?

08:23:03.980 Question.

08:23:04.540 Sure.

08:23:05.860 Are in this scenario, or what do you believe?

08:23:08.720 And I'm just curious.

08:23:09.760 Do you think that women... 1.00

08:23:10.640 Well, you guys gotta answer the question before I give my position.

08:23:12.620 No, but I meant, so for this, would it be that women can also be drafted? 1.00

08:23:16.420 Can we, are we voting in that women get drafted as well, too? 0.98

08:23:19.080 No, just the men.

08:23:20.180 Really?

08:23:20.660 Yeah, it's just the men.

08:23:21.200 But then why, but do you think that women should have, also be a part of that draft? 0.91

08:23:25.540 I mean, they have it in other countries.

08:23:26.560 Well, in my specific example, it's just the men.

08:23:31.320 And, I mean, that's how most military conscription works around the world.

08:23:35.840 It's just the men who are subject to it.

08:23:39.300 It sounds like we're losing either way, draft or no draft.

08:23:42.200 In this scenario?

08:23:42.900 No, in this scenario, I'll just go ahead and say, in this scenario, if you do draft the men, you do win.

08:23:48.640 Okay, that was my thought.

08:23:49.840 I mean, I could make it, I could change the scenario where it's like, well, you know for sure if you don't draft the men,

08:23:56.200 you're going to lose.

08:23:57.540 But if you do draft the men, it's even 50-50.

08:24:02.140 We can change it to that.

08:24:03.780 So would the women in here reenact the draft if war was imminent with some country? 1.00

08:24:07.580 Would you vote to draft the men?

08:24:09.180 I would say yes.

08:24:10.480 I would say yes.

08:24:11.720 Yeah.

08:24:12.500 Everybody's suffering, so I'd say yeah.

08:24:15.480 You have to pick the...

08:24:16.460 Even if that takes away men's free will, because you would... 0.93

08:24:22.800 Just like being drafted.

08:24:23.620 Well, you would be sending men who don't want to go and fight, to go and fight.

08:24:27.600 So you're taking away their free will and agency.

08:24:30.800 And all their wives and mothers and all those people would get S-8 if we decided not to. 0.66

08:24:37.560 And they'd probably all die.

08:24:39.340 Because we have no military force. 0.71

08:24:40.760 Yeah, they would die anyway, so I guess we would have to.

08:24:43.300 Death or death.

08:24:44.260 I don't know.

08:24:44.840 Either way is death.

08:24:45.800 I would say no, just because I wouldn't send my...

08:24:49.080 Death seems imminent.

08:24:50.600 I wouldn't send my sons over there just to prevent me or some other woman from getting S-8. 0.51

08:24:56.800 I would say no.

08:24:58.180 We're all fighting and we're all dying.

08:25:00.260 Yeah, honestly, I would push and I would keep advocating for if that's the case, then I think women need to be in the draft on that one, too. 0.99

08:25:06.920 We all need to be.

08:25:07.680 World War II, we had it where women went to the workplace and started doing that. 1.00

08:25:11.020 It's not the same, but that means that we can do something if that's the 40s and we can sit there and push for like, hey, this is eminent, which means that if it's eminent, then we're going to have a serious conversation on, well, if that's the case, then women need to be in the table on the draft. 0.99

08:25:23.880 And that would be the push.

08:25:25.000 But the opposing nation isn't going to have a conversation.

08:25:27.060 They're ready to go.

08:25:28.000 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

08:25:28.960 And then it's like, you can do that quickly.

08:25:30.160 You can do an executive order where you go, hey, women are now in this draft order. 1.00

08:25:35.040 Because you said it's a year away.

08:25:36.920 They found out that it's a year.

08:25:38.080 So I'm pushing for.

08:25:42.700 Here's what we're going to do just to get this wrapped up.

08:25:44.640 We'll do a brief roast session.

08:25:45.940 You know, whatever.

08:25:47.100 $30 TTS, then we're going to wrap.

08:25:48.880 So if you want, you guys have like five, ten minutes to get a roast in, then we've got to get this wrapped up because it's super late already.

08:25:55.060 Okay, we have these.

08:25:56.840 Oh, my God.

08:25:57.700 Christopher, California.

08:25:59.740 And Christopher, I'm really sorry for the delay on these.

08:26:02.920 I apologize.

08:26:03.380 Christopher Murphy donated $69.

08:26:06.280 Body count over 300 and you're giving advice to people.

08:26:10.340 Close your legs and your mouth. 0.94

08:26:12.380 You first.

08:26:14.620 All right, Christopher.

08:26:15.780 Sorry for the delay on that one.

08:26:18.040 Nicely done.

08:26:18.660 California.

08:26:19.300 Donated $69.

08:26:21.700 Dear Brian, we are reaching out in regards to a report of you operating a dump truck without a proper license.

08:26:28.060 Make necessary actions or ICE will deport you.

08:26:31.440 Taylor Drift.

08:26:32.040 And how to drive also.

08:26:34.720 It's been a minute since I heard Taylor Drift.

08:26:36.840 Okay, thank you, man.

08:26:37.740 Appreciate it.

08:26:38.380 Christopher Murphy donated $70.

08:26:41.320 I'll let these ladies in on a little secret.

08:26:44.040 Most men live a life of pain and tolerance. 1.00

08:26:47.020 You enjoy your peace while we take the blows to maintain that life for you.

08:26:51.440 Call your father.

08:26:53.140 Oh, there's this great quote.

08:26:55.440 Is it from Winston Churchill?

08:26:57.320 People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

08:27:07.200 Have you ever met an Italian woman?

08:27:09.120 Okay.

08:27:09.420 Oh, apparently it's attributed to somebody else, I guess.

08:27:14.260 Oh, I heard that quote, though.

08:27:15.760 That's, yeah.

08:27:16.500 It's a good quote.

08:27:17.040 All right.

08:27:17.780 Guys, if you want, get them in.

08:27:19.160 $30 TTS.

08:27:20.720 $30 TTS.

08:27:21.800 We'll let it go for about five, ten minutes.

08:27:25.600 One last, I guess one or two last things from the questionnaire here.

08:27:29.840 Women are oppressed in the USA. 0.99

08:27:32.100 Shannon, you agree.

08:27:33.500 Moon, you agree.

08:27:36.080 Let's see.

08:27:36.780 Anyone else?

08:27:38.280 Gabby, you agree.

08:27:40.200 Just really quick, how are women oppressed in the USA? 1.00

08:27:44.220 I know we talked about privilege, but how are they oppressed?

08:27:46.540 I would just say it's baked into our society.

08:27:52.300 Like, women still don't seem to have the same level of seriousness when it comes to the workplace. 1.00

08:28:00.080 Like, women aren't taking us seriously. 1.00

08:28:02.900 And, yeah, just in general, socially, like, women aren't taking us seriously as men. 1.00

08:28:09.200 Okay.

08:28:10.300 All right.

08:28:11.080 What about you, Moon?

08:28:12.460 How are women oppressed? 1.00

08:28:14.360 You know, no offense, but, I mean, I would even say, like, just the fact, like, this podcast in general,

08:28:22.520 we are having to defend basically who we are, what we believe in,

08:28:28.180 and some of the stuff that we didn't even have any control over, such as, like, the draft and stuff.

08:28:33.080 You know, I get war.

08:28:34.680 I think it's horrible.

08:28:35.540 You know, I think all of that's just disgraceful.

08:28:38.160 But, like, to me, nothing compares to childbirth.

08:28:41.200 And the day that a man can pull another human out of his body, then we'll talk.

08:28:45.500 I mean, war is war, but none of that has any balance towards childbirth, if you ask me.

08:28:54.020 Voluntary childbirth. 0.54

08:28:55.760 Not all childbirth is voluntary.

08:28:58.040 What percentage of childbirth is voluntary?

08:29:00.200 I have no idea, but not all childbirth is voluntary.

08:29:02.240 And childbirth lasts nine months.

08:29:04.660 Some women die. 1.00

08:29:05.560 It's a horrible thing, and no man can do it.

08:29:09.020 And then when y'all sit here and you say, but aren't we stronger than you?

08:29:12.500 Then go to war. 0.57

08:29:13.340 Why are you crying about it like that?

08:29:14.960 Why is it this big thing?

08:29:16.480 You just said y'all are stronger.

08:29:19.220 You want women with low body counts. 1.00

08:29:20.980 You want us to be at home.

08:29:22.260 You want us to be that model woman that's beautiful and soft and submissive.

08:29:27.640 But you don't want to go, like, you can't have it both ways.

08:29:30.360 You can't have us.

08:29:32.220 And then, no.

08:29:34.020 I mean, if this just.

08:29:36.240 I believe we should not send men to war at all, and we should just send the women. 1.00

08:29:39.400 I think we all.

08:29:40.120 I'd be sick.

08:29:40.920 I want to send Gabby to war. 1.00

08:29:42.740 She'd do it. 0.99

08:29:43.680 She'd be lethal. 0.99

08:29:44.740 What'd you say? 0.57

08:29:45.460 I want to send you to war. 0.99

08:29:46.940 I actually was thinking about it with the proper training. 1.00

08:29:50.420 Because college sucked.

08:29:54.560 I think women will make great soldiers. 1.00

08:29:55.820 I got to, hold on, I got to address that first point you made, though.

08:30:00.160 Childbirth is worse than, like, the brutality of war?

08:30:05.560 I would say because the amount that most women, most women are going to have to go through childbirth. 1.00

08:30:13.300 I mean, sure, some volunteer to give birth.

08:30:17.200 Most women want children. 1.00

08:30:18.660 Men want children. 0.99

08:30:19.580 But we are the only sex that has to go through nine months of usually uncomfortable living and then painful birth or surgery.

08:30:30.320 Yeah, I agree.

08:30:31.320 Look, I'm not going to dispute that pregnancy and childbirth is painful or discomforting or suffering or whatever.

08:30:39.460 But I don't think you're going to make a compelling argument that childbirth can be nearly as bad as war.

08:30:50.300 No, I'm saying, for me personally, it's like, like she said, too, I think, there are things and suffering on both sides.

08:30:59.280 And most women today, I think, especially the ones sitting here, we don't want any of us to suffer. 0.92

08:31:04.140 We don't want y'all to go to war.

08:31:05.520 We don't, like, I get your argument.

08:31:08.160 But I think my question behind the whole men going to war thing was, like, what's your point?

08:31:12.780 Like, we get it.

08:31:13.580 We see it.

08:31:14.360 We don't like it.

08:31:16.080 What is your point behind it?

08:31:17.460 Like, oh, we also deserve a blankie because we suffer, too.

08:31:20.620 We knew that.

08:31:21.160 Yeah, like, what do you want women to do about it? 1.00

08:31:23.500 I'll explain.

08:31:24.380 Yeah, I'll explain.

08:31:25.420 Because we want to do something about it.

08:31:26.620 No, I'll explain.

08:31:27.240 So feminism has always been about a comparison. 1.00

08:31:31.460 Women have it worse to men. 1.00

08:31:33.460 But I just reject this categorically, both modern day and historically.

08:31:38.360 So this idea that, like, the point I'm trying to make by bringing up warfare is that it's clearly ignored as a gender-based grievance.

08:31:51.420 But it clearly is a gender-based grievance if you look at the distribution of men who are soldiers.

08:31:59.280 And not just that, but even if you do do a comparison between male soldiers and female soldiers, men are almost exclusively the front-line soldiers, exclusively the ones that are injured, exclusively the ones that are front-line combat that are getting killed.

08:32:16.340 Yep.

08:32:16.600 So this comparison, feminism's always been about a comparison. 1.00

08:32:44.020 And I'm saying, actually, now that you're playing the comparison game between men and women, I'm going to play it, too. 0.57

08:32:52.480 And I'm going to say that if we're looking at the totality of circumstances, and there's a bunch of, by the way, besides war, men are more likely to be homeless.

08:33:01.900 Men are less likely to go to college.

08:33:04.080 Men are more likely to unalive themselves.

08:33:06.440 Men are more likely to be incarcerated.

08:33:08.700 Men are more likely to be a victim of violent crime.

08:33:11.660 There's plenty of things that I can tell you besides just the war argument where men are disproportionately impacted with negative life outcomes.

08:33:19.480 It's interesting to me.

08:33:21.320 I think part of feminism is the apex fallacy. 1.00

08:33:25.120 You look at the top 1% or 10% of men, and you attribute that lived experience, oh, that's how all men must experience life.

08:33:35.780 But the reality is, here's my argument, is that while it might be the case that there's more male CEOs, and there's more men who are rich, and there's more men who occupy boardrooms, and there's more men who occupy positions of power,

08:33:48.920 I'm not going to argue any of that, I'm not going to dispute any of that, I'm going to go ahead and agree and grant it.

08:33:54.420 However, I think a greater proportion of women enjoy what I would call the middle, the comfortable middle. 0.99

08:34:03.660 And then, though, if we're looking at this like a pyramid, sure, let's just go ahead and put men on top.

08:34:08.100 And then in the middle, where it's like, you're living like your life's good, your life's okay, you're not a superstar CEO, or you're not, you don't have power, whatever.

08:34:19.780 Although, we can have conversations of the soft power that women do have. 1.00

08:34:24.040 But at the very bottom of this pyramid, you see almost exclusively men.

08:34:28.500 The most dangerous jobs, the dirtiest jobs, the most negative life outcomes are disproportionately men. 1.00

08:34:38.460 So, yeah, maybe it's true that you don't get the corner window office at your company.

08:34:48.900 It's not even clear to me if like being a wage slave for some company is like this big win.

08:34:53.660 But the worst negative life outcomes, it's almost always men. 1.00

08:35:00.820 So, it's like you were saying that feminism is like women's advocacy. 0.98

08:35:05.680 So, we're all...

08:35:06.660 There's the men.

08:35:07.480 And also like trying to help men as well.

08:35:10.120 Just trying to make things better for majority of people.

08:35:13.160 And so, women are coming together and we're having conversations and we're explaining these grievances.

08:35:17.780 And we're usually voting things in to make this change.

08:35:20.960 Whereas, it sounds like men just want to maybe just complain about the tasks they have to do in society.

08:35:27.760 And I get your grievances.

08:35:29.780 But like what do you want us to do now that we're listening to them?

08:35:34.300 That's a great question.

08:35:35.140 I don't want women to demonize men.

08:35:37.240 I don't want women to view all men as predators.

08:35:39.900 I want men... 0.91

08:35:40.180 Agreed.

08:35:40.840 I want women... 1.00

08:35:41.160 I feel like that's a conversation you should have with your fellow man as well.

08:35:44.640 What?

08:35:45.880 But hold on.

08:35:46.700 Feminism is always like we want men to acknowledge our grievances. 1.00

08:35:51.460 Yes.

08:35:52.100 And you want equality on that.

08:35:53.520 You want to also be acknowledged in your grievances.

08:35:56.280 Which is great.

08:35:56.840 Yeah.

08:35:57.200 Yeah.

08:35:57.500 This is good.

08:35:58.420 But I don't...

08:35:59.180 Like once you open up this game of grievance, then we have to...

08:36:07.100 I think it's completely fair for men to be like, wait, hold on.

08:36:10.620 You're saying that just by virtue of me being a man, I'm so privileged and my life must be so easy because I'm a man.

08:36:18.640 But the reality is, is that's just, it's just not true whatsoever.

08:36:23.680 And this idea, it's kind of this, it's almost, it is sexist to just say, well, men are privileged.

08:36:29.900 Men just have privilege in comparison to what?

08:36:33.640 In totality of what?

08:36:35.800 I think it's a privilege to not have a period every month.

08:36:38.980 I think it's a privilege that the majority of women in this country don't have their genitals mutilated upon birth. 0.99

08:36:45.340 And I think we can both have our grievances.

08:36:47.620 But at the end of the day, are you voting to make that change happen?

08:36:50.580 Because like we can't vote to change having periods.

08:36:53.780 But you could potentially talk to your fellow brother in about the situation.

08:36:59.540 But instead, you're like complaining to us.

08:37:01.580 And it's like, what do you want us to, we hear you and we have empathy for you.

08:37:06.060 It's like, we want you to have empathy for us.

08:37:08.080 But at the end of the day, like you have to talk to your fellow man about that situation.

08:37:12.640 Or us too.

08:37:13.000 Well, hold on.

08:37:13.520 Us too.

08:37:14.000 I could actually talk.

08:37:14.480 Because we can vote.

08:37:15.200 Yeah, you can.

08:37:15.760 This conversation is actually what helps us a lot.

08:37:18.900 Because when we hear that you guys, wait, we're like, wait a minute.

08:37:21.860 Like it blew my mind when I'm realizing that I had been programmed to believe that men didn't have feelings and emotions.

08:37:27.800 I had to do a lot of work to realize that I was like, oh, I need to be more mindful of what I'm telling someone.

08:37:33.760 Especially with a partner and in a relationship.

08:37:35.840 Like you do have thoughts and emotions and feelings and grievances and pain and trauma.

08:37:40.360 And like, and I watch that.

08:37:42.040 I've seen women destroy men and emasculate and all that. 1.00

08:37:45.440 So it's like, wait a minute.

08:37:46.800 Women do have some work to do. 1.00

08:37:48.280 Now that we're at the table, there should be some solution.

08:37:50.860 We can keep going with the, he said, she said, you do this, I did that.

08:37:54.180 But I, and, but it is, it is more like, hey, there are grievances.

08:37:57.440 What's the solution?

08:37:59.040 And men asking for help more too.

08:38:01.040 Personally, I don't identify as misandrist.

08:38:03.300 I have empathy and care for men in my life.

08:38:06.340 I have a relationship with my boyfriend and it's very close.

08:38:09.360 And I understand his own grievances when it comes to being a man in our society.

08:38:13.260 I do, however, have friends who are feminists who are misandrist. 1.00

08:38:16.380 So I understand what you're saying where.

08:38:18.160 Why would you be friends with a misandrist?

08:38:19.820 Well, she has certain opinions, but her overall, she's a kind human being.

08:38:24.980 She just has differences of opinions. 0.98

08:38:27.060 My friend's racist, but, and like hates this group, this racial group. 0.99

08:38:31.160 Well, like you probably have friends who are like, like extreme, extreme conservatives.

08:38:35.400 You don't have the same exact viewpoints as them all the time.

08:38:38.900 You're still friends with them.

08:38:40.160 Does she like identify as misandrist?

08:38:42.240 I think just some of her takes maybe go a little too far.

08:38:46.700 I wouldn't say that like mainstream conservatives are sexist or racist, really.

08:38:52.380 It depends on which people in the group.

08:38:55.160 I think most mainstream conservatives have pretty reasonable takes on gender stuff.

08:39:00.840 But like once you, because like, you know, on both sides of the spectrum politically, you can go too far on either way.

08:39:08.300 So it's like, you probably have friends who have opinions that are too far, but you're still friends with them, even though you don't agree.

08:39:15.740 Or maybe not.

08:39:16.300 Yeah, sure.

08:39:16.920 I'm definitely friends with people who have positions that I don't agree with.

08:39:20.240 I don't think I, I don't know if I would be particularly inclined to be buddy-buddy with somebody who was like demonstrably like viciously racist or, you know, something like that.

08:39:33.820 Or like hated, like if somebody.

08:39:36.240 Women? 1.00

08:39:36.720 Like hated women. 0.99

08:39:38.520 Yeah. 0.81

08:39:38.840 Blanketly.

08:39:39.520 Like misogynist?

08:39:40.760 Or do you not believe in that term?

08:39:42.840 Well, I think the term misogyny gets thrown around a whole bunch.

08:39:46.520 It does.

08:39:46.880 Where it doesn't necessarily apply.

08:39:51.360 But if somebody just blanket hated women, I, I'm against that.

08:39:56.940 I don't think you should blanketly just hate women.

08:39:59.680 I think if they like hate them because of their experiences, then I'm just like, oh, that's just a really like traumatized, unfortunate event type person.

08:40:10.680 And so they're like taking it out on that specific gender. 1.00

08:40:13.180 And I feel like that's a similar conversation we're having where it's like you as men feel like unheard.

08:40:19.380 You don't feel like you have the same.

08:40:23.240 I mean, do you feel like as a man, you don't have the same opportunities as women?

08:40:26.840 Like you do feel oppressed.

08:40:28.500 Is that the sense that you're getting from men nowadays?

08:40:33.320 The oppressed word is a difficult one.

08:40:35.400 But are you saying that in relation to opportunities?

08:40:39.100 Yeah.

08:40:39.300 Affirmative action.

08:40:40.380 Absolutely.

08:40:40.640 Now, granted, I'm not in the like professional corporate world, so I can't speak to that.

08:40:47.540 I'm self-employed.

08:40:48.800 However, what I can tell you is I've had hundreds of men and I've, there's, there's been journalism on this topic.

08:40:56.320 There's been investigation on this topic.

08:40:58.120 You look at what's going on in Hollywood.

08:40:59.760 I have a lot of friends, male friends, white male friends in the entertainment industry in Hollywood.

08:41:05.400 And yeah, there's been massive amounts of affirmative action in the entertainment industry and in Hollywood where they're like, we only want to hire.

08:41:14.260 And I believe, I don't know if it was the Oscars or the, they're like, look, in order for your film to qualify for this thing.

08:41:21.100 I know there's incentives for diversity.

08:41:22.820 You need to have 40% or 50% of this demographic, you need some transgender people, you need some black dwarf lesbians, you need whatever it is. 1.00

08:41:33.860 And it's just, there's absolutely affirmative action that's hurting men and hurting white people and specifically hurting white men. 0.92

08:41:43.600 I mean, if, if they want to band together to start creating laws and get them passed and like they have every right to do that.

08:41:51.780 Sorry, what?

08:41:52.420 Don't they have the rights to, to make laws and get things changed? 0.62

08:41:56.460 If, if that is such a cross to bear, then like, go ahead.

08:42:00.660 Because that's what women have to do, right? 1.00

08:42:01.960 No, but hold on.

08:42:02.640 I'm, I'm literally addressing your argument.

08:42:04.560 You asked me, uh, are men or white people or white men losing out on specific opportunities?

08:42:10.360 And if affirmative-

08:42:11.460 And you're saying, yeah.

08:42:12.580 If, uh, if, uh, if corporations either through their own internal policies or there's, there's like social pressure or whatever it is through DEI policies,

08:42:21.580 or affirmative action is like, you can't hire white men.

08:42:25.700 And that would seem to, that would seem to indicate to me that yes, white men are not being given opportunities.

08:42:32.380 I mean, the same thing could be said for women in the past and for people of color.

08:42:38.180 So it's like the reason that these things have changed is because there's laws that have like started to create that change because people are voting them in.

08:42:45.300 So if it's such an issue for you guys, then like, why not do the same thing?

08:42:49.340 Vote it in.

08:42:50.020 Because we can't go backwards.

08:42:51.180 And I mean, I hate to say it that way.

08:42:52.440 But hold on, it's not even, like, these are-

08:42:53.940 But if that's, if there's enough of them who are upset and they want to vote it in, then like, you have every right to, right?

08:42:59.860 Oh, wait, well, hold on.

08:43:01.280 But just to be clear, so if you're, you would be fine with a company only wanting, and this is their internal company policy, only wanting to hire white men?

08:43:11.220 Personally, I don't approve of that messaging.

08:43:15.260 But if they're able to get it voted in, like, if it's hurting such a large group of people, and they all collectively decided that they want this law to now be put in to be more inclusive towards them, then they have every right to do that, right?

08:43:30.640 Well, California, this was on the ballot a couple years ago, and I think it failed, actually.

08:43:34.780 But they were trying to essentially get rid of, I forget the specific terminology, maybe somebody in the chat knows.

08:43:41.840 It was on the California ballot.

08:43:43.460 They were trying to undo the, somebody in the chat may be helped, but basically they were trying to make it so that you could discriminate in hiring practices.

08:43:54.640 But the discrimination that they wanted to do was discrimination towards hiring minorities and women, and discriminating in terms of being able to not hire men or white men.

08:44:10.800 Wait.

08:44:11.440 Huh?

08:44:12.400 Did everyone get discriminated on on that one?

08:44:14.720 What do you mean?

08:44:15.660 Sorry, it sounded like you said discriminated minorities and white men.

08:44:20.460 Huh?

08:44:21.200 I got a little confused.

08:44:22.000 It sounded like you said hiring.

08:44:23.540 You get discriminated against.

08:44:24.040 Who's getting discriminated against?

08:44:25.520 There's positive discrimination.

08:44:27.060 So discriminating, the discriminating towards, I want to hire black people, that would be discrimination in their favor, right?

08:44:35.920 I thought discrimination just always meant that you are against.

08:44:40.600 Well, it depends on the phrasing, but yeah, you would, in other words, you would be discriminating against white people or white men or men.

08:44:47.680 And it didn't pass.

08:44:49.100 Great.

08:44:49.540 I believe, I don't recall the outcome of it, but my understanding is it did not pass.

08:44:55.320 Yeah.

08:44:56.240 I mean, look, I understand the overcorrection of things, and now we're at the table going, all right, there's an overcorrection and there's a lot of people screaming.

08:45:05.560 How do we do it where there's more of a meritocracy?

08:45:07.880 While also helping out identifying confirmation bias or what's the familiarity bias?

08:45:12.680 How do you account for that?

08:45:15.480 How do you, what's the, again, what's the solution?

08:45:18.380 How do you, yeah.

08:45:19.200 Sure.

08:45:20.820 Hold on.

08:45:22.360 Moon, you said women are oppressed in the USA. 0.98

08:45:25.740 How are women oppressed? 1.00

08:45:27.660 Oh.

08:45:28.280 Didn't you answer?

08:45:28.620 I think I did, but, you know, kind of just goes back to, like, what she said.

08:45:32.880 I mean, childbirth, periods.

08:45:35.160 Oh, maybe you did.

08:45:36.380 By the way, guys, $30 TTS, I'm going to let them come through here in just a moment.

08:45:40.000 And you also said women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.

08:45:43.300 Can you explain that?

08:45:44.620 Equal rights? 0.97

08:45:45.880 Yeah.

08:45:46.340 So, let me ask you this.

08:45:48.460 What right does a man have that a woman doesn't? 1.00

08:45:50.640 Um, you're going to scoff at this, but, like, the right to not have a child in some states,

08:45:58.720 especially if you get pregnant and you do not want to carry that child.

08:46:02.720 Okay, so abortion rights. 1.00

08:46:04.060 Yeah.

08:46:04.420 Your reproductive rights. 0.61

08:46:05.440 We don't have, you know, and I think you said something earlier.

08:46:08.360 I can't remember what it was.

08:46:09.500 We were talking about, like, promiscuity, and you were like, well, basically, my point

08:46:14.260 is one man can get.

08:46:16.600 But let's talk about rights.

08:46:17.500 Let's talk about rights.

08:46:18.380 I mean, this goes back to those reproductive rights.

08:46:21.040 Like, one man can get 1,000 women pregnant, but a woman can only get pregnant one time 1.00

08:46:26.560 a year.

08:46:27.140 Like, so, a woman being promiscuous still does not equate to the social damage of a promiscuous 0.99

08:46:34.520 man.

08:46:34.820 If you're looking at their ability to just procreate endlessly, I mean, you could knock

08:46:40.360 up seven, you can knock up, I mean, as many times as you can, you know, produce.

08:46:44.680 But each of those individual women would have to, I assume, be promiscuous. 1.00

08:46:48.380 In order to be knocked up by, like, one guy.

08:46:52.480 No, to be knocked up by one guy?

08:46:54.020 How would she be promiscuous? 0.97

08:46:55.520 Well, logically, it could be the case that, like, this one guy has managed to get, in a

08:47:00.880 short period of time, seven virgin women pregnant.

08:47:03.880 I find this kind of unlikely, but...

08:47:05.960 Why would they need to be virgins? 1.00

08:47:07.500 No, I'm not saying they need...

08:47:08.660 I'm saying it's possible, and this would point to, although some people would make the argument

08:47:14.060 that a virgin woman just getting knocked up, they might consider that promiscuity, but, 1.00

08:47:20.860 like, given the low body count, I don't know if I would necessarily categorize it as promiscuity,

08:47:25.820 but probably if one guy is getting, like, seven different women pregnant, I think that would

08:47:33.100 also point, it would point to his promiscuity, it would also point to their promiscuity. 1.00

08:47:38.620 Like, if a girl hadn't had a relationship in three years or a month, and she meets you and

08:47:43.860 gets pregnant, she's promiscuous. 1.00

08:47:45.360 Yes, I'm agreeing that in this scenario, the seven women that this one man, or the seven

08:47:50.740 women that this one man, he's getting them all pregnant, they could all be virgins. 1.00

08:47:57.160 I think it's probably unlikely.

08:47:58.840 Oh, yeah, I think that it is, too.

08:48:01.440 So, like, then why does the value of promiscuity for women, like, why is it so high when we 0.98

08:48:06.140 can't go out and get other people pregnant? 1.00

08:48:08.420 Is there, besides the abortion thing and that thing, is there anything else in terms of rights?

08:48:13.860 Mm-hmm, I'm going to just stick with those rights that men have that women don't. 1.00

08:48:16.920 Okay, and then finally, this is the final thing, then the chats, then we're out.

08:48:21.400 Gabby, you said women are oppressed in the USA, how?

08:48:23.960 Actually, I want to change my stance on that, that I thought about it.

08:48:27.040 No one benefits from society these days.

08:48:29.460 No one does.

08:48:30.400 Everyone's a victim.

08:48:31.440 There we go.

08:48:32.340 Rich people are the only people benefiting from anything. 1.00

08:48:37.080 I fuck with that. 0.99

08:48:38.140 All right, sweet. 1.00

08:48:38.920 So, guys, we're going to do the roast.

08:48:40.260 $30 TTS.

08:48:41.180 Nice job.

08:48:41.460 If you want to get it in, we're going to get it in.

08:48:43.860 All right.

08:48:44.700 Reap what you so donated $30.

08:48:46.980 Thank you, man.

08:48:47.560 This is why women can't be dating coaches. 1.00

08:48:50.580 The dating coach chose bear over man and doesn't know the difference between a biological male 0.82

08:48:55.500 and female.

08:48:56.900 Choose another occupation.

08:48:59.000 California Prop 18 or 16.

08:49:02.540 These are great.

08:49:04.580 All right, we have professional victim.

08:49:08.360 Oh, boy, they're roasting me.

08:49:09.680 Professional victim donated $30.

08:49:11.740 Brian, if you want to lose weight, join the army.

08:49:16.260 Yep.

08:49:16.580 Just got back from basic training and lost 30 pounds.

08:49:20.660 The only incentive for women to join the military is citizenship and money. 1.00

08:49:25.440 Thank you, man.

08:49:26.580 PB 133 donated $30.

08:49:30.520 In half black too, they gave me half an end card.

08:49:33.260 They didn't give you the half end card.

08:49:35.080 Ah, man.

08:49:37.660 I got the full one because of my dad.

08:49:39.840 Because of my dad.

08:49:41.260 Ang says Roar donated $29.99.

08:49:45.520 Thank you, Ang.

08:49:46.000 Nothing any of you has said is oppression, which is defined as prolonged, cruel, or unjust

08:49:51.780 treatment or control.

08:49:53.640 I had twins vaginally and the pain was like cramp sex 10 and my epidural failed three times.

08:49:59.980 Oh, no.

08:50:00.980 Christopher Murphy donated $30.

08:50:04.080 Thank you, Chris.

08:50:04.760 I'm over it tonight.

08:50:05.840 I hope my donor can get kind of on the show one day.

08:50:09.220 That would be awesome.

08:50:10.600 That would be nice.

08:50:11.160 Thank you.

08:50:11.900 Thank you, Christopher.

08:50:12.640 Appreciate it, man.

08:50:13.720 We've got a few more coming through.

08:50:15.240 Get them in if you guys want.

08:50:16.500 Final call.

08:50:16.600 Lizzie B95 donated $30.

08:50:19.680 On note to the childbirth versus war.

08:50:22.600 As a nurse for eight years, we all have different pain thresholds.

08:50:26.600 Some women go through childbirth like a breeze. 1.00

08:50:29.820 Some women don't. 1.00

08:50:30.980 We also forget the pain and want more.

08:50:35.360 Based Thor donated $30.

08:50:37.880 How you gonna call me the insect?

08:50:39.760 Uh-oh.

08:50:40.100 Thank you, Based Thor.

08:50:40.440 Have you looked at yourself in the mirror?

08:50:42.380 I bet you can't wait till June calls.

08:50:44.800 That's your only month to shine.

08:50:47.040 Too bad ICE can't deport whatever you identify also.

08:50:52.200 Lulu donated $30. 1.00

08:50:53.720 Feminism wants to erase the shit that women have to take. 1.00

08:50:58.160 But the point Brian is making is that men have to take shit no matter what. 1.00

08:51:02.540 Men can't opt out of the shit they have to take. 1.00

08:51:05.480 Stop complaining. 1.00

08:51:06.420 No one's complaining.

08:51:08.800 No one's complaining.

08:51:09.840 Thank you, Lulu Lulu.

08:51:10.540 And then we have Carl Chiders.

08:51:12.140 Carl Chiders donated $30.

08:51:15.280 You were talking about Prop 16 earlier.

08:51:17.980 That was what was defeated. 0.99

08:51:19.980 Also, childbirth ain't shit compared to rounds coming down range, killing your friends and brothers. 0.98

08:51:25.720 Yeah, I'll just pull this up really quickly just because it came into the conversation earlier. 0.99

08:51:30.340 And, uh, all right.

08:51:32.140 It was a 2020 California Prop 16.

08:51:35.620 It was a failed California ballot proposition that appeared on the November 3rd, 2020 general election ballot,

08:51:41.400 asking California voters to amend the Constitution of California to repeal Prop 209 from 1996.

08:51:48.300 Proposition 209.

08:51:50.660 Excuse me.

08:51:51.340 Proposition 209 amended the state constitution to prohibit government institutions from considering race, sex, or ethnicity,

08:52:00.760 specifically in the areas of public employment, public contracting, and public education.

08:52:06.120 Therefore, Proposition 209 banned the use of race and gender-based affirmative action in California's public sector and public university admissions.

08:52:15.340 Scroll down.

08:52:17.120 Uh, and then that was just right there.

08:52:19.200 Uh, so it was, it was pretty close.

08:52:21.940 Uh, so yes, they wanted to, uh, they voted in favor of it.

08:52:26.260 No.

08:52:27.020 So it's a little confusing because, uh, they basically said,

08:52:31.760 originally, they're like, you can't consider race.

08:52:38.040 So like, if the person's black, this is back in 1996.

08:52:41.300 If the person's black, you can't use that against them.

08:52:45.460 Or if they're a woman, you can't use that against them. 1.00

08:52:48.360 You can't discriminate on the basis of their race or sex.

08:52:51.260 But then with Prop 16, what they're trying to do is they're trying to say,

08:52:55.400 no, we do want to be able to hire people based on their race or sex.

08:53:01.540 But this typically dealt with minority groups.

08:53:04.460 So we said, it's basically, they wanted affirmative action.

08:53:08.840 Does that make sense?

08:53:10.880 It looked like they wanted to repeal of affirmative action.

08:53:14.300 Uh, no.

08:53:15.220 So I got you.

08:53:16.660 Yeah.

08:53:16.980 Affirmative action was essentially disallowed.

08:53:19.500 Oh.

08:53:20.360 And they, but they wanted to employ affirmative action, but this meant they wanted to allow

08:53:25.180 for discrimination.

08:53:26.560 So the previous law said discrimination is illegal, but they wanted to allow discrimination.

08:53:33.940 Yeah.

08:53:34.520 But in a way that they view discrimination as positive.

08:53:38.200 Sure.

08:53:38.480 Right.

08:53:38.680 I got you.

08:53:39.180 I see what you're saying with a, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

08:53:41.720 And that happens all the time, especially in California, you have all those, uh, props

08:53:44.700 and everything.

08:53:45.180 People get really confused on them because it's tricky language.

08:53:48.040 Sure.

08:53:48.560 All right.

08:53:48.980 This is the final one.

08:53:50.060 It looks like Mar go home.

08:53:51.300 Well put.

08:53:52.380 Great final chat.

08:53:53.660 Go home.

08:53:54.560 Oh, that was it.

08:53:55.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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08:54:30.020 Thank you to the panel.

08:54:31.040 We went, this was a long stream.

08:54:32.540 So you guys are all, uh, dope.

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08:54:45.120 Well played.

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Whatever Podcast - May 19, 2025

Pregnancy WORSE Than War？! 300+ Body Count？! $1,000,000 To Date Her？! Andrew W! ｜ Dating Talk #243

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