Whatever Podcast - Psycho Troll ASSAULTS Nick？! GETS KICKED OUT! She DISAGREES With EVERYTHING？! ｜ Dating Talk #159

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00:02:50.620 channel with that said and without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves

00:02:55.420 so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead hi my name is alissa i'm from

00:03:03.340 california i'm 18 and i'm a student here at ucsb what are you studying i'm studying psychology right

00:03:09.340 now psych and you're a freshman then yeah okay what about you hi my name is missy i'm 36 i live in

00:03:16.620 kingston ontario and i work in health care but people have known me from working in sports in the past

00:03:22.380 all right so uh kingston what uh it's like two hours east of province yeah ontario yeah close to

00:03:32.060 toronto yeah okay hi my name is diana i'm turning 36 thursday and yep i'm a health care entrepreneur

00:03:41.180 and um been doing that from saint pete florida and you're you're a rn is that right yes okay all right

00:03:50.700 what about you hi my name is blassie i'm from the south side of chicago illinois and i am a i'm a neat

00:03:58.540 not in employment education or training age i'm 22 years old 22 south side of chicago is that the uh

00:04:10.940 is that the bad side yes that's the bad side uh yeah i born born and born and bred there yeah okay i've

00:04:17.020 managed to nick a few uh gunshots you you nicked a few guns yeah like they almost nicked me oh okay

00:04:24.060 yeah did you did you any have you fired any gunshots do you want me to do gun signs i can um but i'm i'd

00:04:31.900 be a little bit scared about when i come back all right let me show you this you probably shouldn't

00:04:37.420 throw this is the probably shouldn't throw no i shouldn't uh uh yeah you know just for your own

00:04:44.700 safety probably uh well whatever um so okay so okay you grew up there your whole life my whole life but

00:04:56.620 i'm i'm on twitter now and i'm uh and you're you're on the mean streets of twitter i'm in the mean

00:05:03.180 i'm in the even meaner streets moved from the south side of chicago to the twitter yeah yeah

00:05:09.580 i sometimes get lumped into right-wing twitter although i don't feel that way i i don't feel any

00:05:14.780 way at all i just make jokes um and uh yeah that's that's really what what i've got to say if you've

00:05:21.740 got any other questions no no that's it all right what about you my name is macy i'm a student at ucsb

00:05:26.780 and i'm 19 so i live here uh where are you from originally uh the bay area like sonoma county

00:05:32.940 okay up north north cal uh what are you studying at ucsb i'm a film and media studies major but i'm

00:05:38.380 probably going to double in comms do you know what you want to do with that you want to be a director

00:05:42.300 get into hollywood or well if i double in comms that's definitely more like the marketing side i

00:05:46.940 know some um girls who like what's it called internship at like universal to do like publicity 0.96

00:05:52.140 for movies and whatnot so probably more that aspect of it okay got it what about you um i'm natalia

00:05:57.980 i'm originally from san diego but i'm a full-time student here at ucsb and i'm 18 19

00:06:02.780 on sunday 19 on sunday and then uh what are you studying at ucsb i'm a sociology major

00:06:09.740 sos okay there you have it what about you hi my name is alex with a y i am 25 i have a destination

00:06:19.500 wedding and elopement videography business all right welcome welcome actually quick question for you on the

00:06:25.420 wedding thing uh how many weddings would you say you've uh filmed for a shot um i've probably

00:06:33.500 been a part of somewhere between 70 weddings um as far as my own like this year i have like

00:06:43.420 22 weddings so i second shoot sometimes for other um videographers how long have you been doing that

00:06:49.180 for full time this will be my third wedding season like coming into this three years yeah yeah three

00:06:55.340 years do you keep tabs on any of the people you shoot for like have you ever shot a wedding and

00:06:59.900 then you're like yeah they're gonna get divorced have you ever had that experience no i've had a really

00:07:07.420 really great no bridezillas truly i feel like a lot of times family getting involved and having a

00:07:13.660 say and a lot of stuff is usually where some bumps in the road come from but my couples have been

00:07:18.380 really great i've been fortunate because uh we've had i don't know if you're familiar with chase who

00:07:23.580 we've had on the show a couple times yeah i don't know a dozen times or so he does or used to do wedding

00:07:30.060 wedding uh photography videography and he told me he'd like he could tell having gone and shot all these

00:07:38.700 weddings which of the marriages were gonna last and he actually like was able to predict some divorces

00:07:45.740 i i try not to be in that mentality sure on their wedding day i don't i don't really think about

00:07:52.060 that i'm excited for my couples so but i my friend did tell me about him i tried to find his

00:07:56.860 his photo stuff but i haven't yeah uh mason mike my caucasian yeah

00:08:03.420 oh super awkward i love it uh traditional whiteness um yeah you're like caucasian yeah 0.99

00:08:12.540 exactly yeah yeah uh so yeah my name is mason gregoire uh i'm 28 years old i am a mechanical

00:08:21.180 engineer uh but i'm currently switching over into air force special warfare uh so i've been going

00:08:27.980 through that process for a while did you have the mustache last time i don't know i mean i've always got

00:08:33.020 the top gun you're doing the top gun yeah it's a little classic air force it's like a ginger 1.00

00:08:38.060 mustache though yeah like my beard is also really red wow so it's i've it's like a genetic uh uh

00:08:46.060 uh abnormality that's i have a couple red hairs it's like yeah okay yeah i have half a soul there you

00:08:53.820 go there you go uh okay cool so uh and when when are you uh shipping off shipping out um i don't have

00:09:01.980 ship dates yet uh because for special warfare you have to pass this initial fitness test

00:09:07.740 um so currently uh i pass everything except the run i haven't run in probably six years so i'm uh

00:09:16.220 getting back into shape i'm about a minute off the time i need to hit from my mile and a half run

00:09:20.860 okay yeah all right and but so you don't like they just kind of tell you the day before and then

00:09:27.740 you leave well no no no so any sense of when yeah uh so they try to keep a special warfare candidates

00:09:33.580 in the same flights uh for basic training and then uh assessment and selection so i know the next ship

00:09:41.420 date for uh i know the guys that i'm going through the training pipeline with right it's uh june 25th

00:09:49.900 so i could be out of here june 25th okay yeah sweet sweet and uh okay that's everybody so going around

00:09:58.540 the table once more what's your current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship

00:10:05.980 friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem whatever it may be if you're single

00:10:13.260 how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting

00:10:17.660 with you go ahead um i'm single right now i've been single for i would say a year and a half i think

00:10:26.300 the longest relationship i've been in was like 18 months something like that 18 months okay so sometime

00:10:34.780 was that the one that ended 1.5 years ago yeah yeah right before i came to school okay so it was

00:10:40.780 like a high school relationship yeah sort of like sophomore to senior year kind of or yeah junior to

00:10:46.540 senior it was more i was a junior or i was like okay sophomore summer something like that and you went

00:10:52.220 to did you go to prom was there prom no no prom get to prom no oh you broke up before the okay the

00:10:58.220 senior prom all right rip uh okay and so you but you've been single for uh you're a freshman at

00:11:05.820 yeah ucsb you said i've been single since i think it was october of my senior year yeah since then okay

00:11:14.140 well utsb number one party school i mean you know there's are you in a sorority i'm not no okay

00:11:19.420 no dating prospects at all there's a lot of handsome handsome men at ucsb right i really

00:11:27.260 don't think anyone here is looking to date especially first years like no one's taking

00:11:32.060 anyone serious is that what you're looking to do take someone serious yeah um i'm not like focused on

00:11:38.140 that okay if like the situation where like i really liked a guy where it came up i would take him

00:11:42.780 serious but any sure any flings or anything short term anything short term nothing

00:11:49.420 nothing oh okay not really she told the truth

00:11:57.260 i feel like she's got riz so she does have riz yeah okay all right are you guys are you guys

00:12:03.900 housemates roommates yeah we're roommates yeah in in the dorms yeah okay like so it's a triple no well

00:12:10.700 actually she's our suite mate so we're in the same room and then we share bathroom with natalia

00:12:15.420 okay so it's like four people total two people in each room five people i have a roommate they're in

00:12:22.380 a triple and then it's oh yeah triple double okay i see yeah i see good times all right and i'm trying

00:12:29.340 to think what else uh doesn't go down in the dorm dorm room nothing no no dorm room

00:12:36.620 yeah got it uh what about you so um i have been single for eight years and my longest relationship

00:12:45.740 was probably close to two years yeah for eight years yeah a long time when you say you've been

00:12:51.340 single for eight years have you been celibate for uh i have been so for six in the last six years i've

00:12:57.500 been with two people so yeah largely celibate um not intentionally so but i i'm two and a half

00:13:05.340 years sober so i struggled with addiction for a long time so i was not really like a viable option

00:13:10.780 for people to date i kind of took myself out of the game because i knew i was like too much of a mess for

00:13:15.660 a long time to do that um and then like through my early recovery like i'd put on a lot of weight i

00:13:21.340 i didn't have a lot of confidence and so i started working out and working on that but i find dating

00:13:26.860 now is oh my god it's just gotten so much worse in 10 years so i don't want to waste my time with

00:13:32.780 like some guy you know i want the guy i don't want to waste my time with someone so okay and we'll

00:13:38.700 definitely get into you provided quite a bit of pre-show notes so we'll get into as much of it

00:13:43.580 as we can congrats on the two-year sobriety thank you thank you thank you very much what was it

00:13:49.100 alcohol alcohol yeah so i mean like a long time ago i did drugs for a short time like because it

00:13:55.020 was what was available um but that affected me like really badly and so you know alcohol is more

00:14:01.180 socially acceptable so i kind of fell into it just socially and then uh yeah just snowballed from

00:14:07.580 there so okay i see uh so uh and you are on a dating app i am we will do later on we will do a

00:14:16.780 review of your dating app profile thank you for providing that why did i do that it's a good one

00:14:21.820 though it's a good it's good uh so uh and actually hold on nobody here has only fans correct no no no

00:14:29.820 and nobody here has ever done ever done only fans correct no any form of s work no no look at that

00:14:39.100 look at that faking improvement whatever podcast they only bring on they only promote these degenerate

00:14:48.380 this is your comeback story exactly i don't know i think maybe i was a degenerate

00:14:53.740 well we can get into that yeah we'll get into that in other ways in other ways yeah yeah more

00:15:00.140 acceptable ways maybe i don't know but hopefully yeah what about you um i've been single for five years i

00:15:08.540 just recently um got into a relationship my longest relationship was uh marriage for 14 years

00:15:17.900 all right but so there's a new relationship you're currently in a relationship

00:15:23.500 how long has that been going on two months two months are you guys boyfriend girlfriend or is it

00:15:29.420 kind of more casual title i don't i think as you get older you don't really mess with the titles as much

00:15:34.940 it's like are you guys monogamous yes you've had that over you've had an over conversation about

00:15:41.340 that yes okay we had those conversations early on and he was very open about like

00:15:49.500 i think it's there's a difference between men that are a little bit older and like women sometimes on

00:15:54.700 how they approach dating so in my experience in five years especially going through the pandemic

00:16:01.260 where like you know dating apps completely exploded it was like a man will find a woman and be like

00:16:08.460 okay i want to just like focus some men i'm not talking about f boys right but um and women are more 1.00

00:16:16.540 of like laissez-faire like let's just get to know people and not have expectations and stuff oh i'm still

00:16:22.220 not like that yeah that's a hot take you're saying women are more so yeah because we don't want to get hurt 1.00

00:16:28.540 emotionally so we try and like stay the distance and kind of have like options that's what i've

00:16:35.900 always been taught by my uh older mentor you know lady a woman or who your mentor is she a woman or a 0.88

00:16:44.380 man she multiple multiple different women you've had multiple female mentors who have instructed you 0.98

00:16:50.780 and advised you to entertain multiple options is do i understand that correctly yeah when you're on the

00:16:56.540 dating scene until you actually get serious and you know if everything aligns just casually getting

00:17:01.660 to know so two months ago were you doing that prior to meeting this current guy that you're now i was

00:17:09.580 on all the dating apps well you're on all the dating apps so how many options three months ago were you

00:17:14.860 entertaining um i only had a couple that i was uh you know considering and what do you mean what when you

00:17:22.700 say considering what do you mean a couple of good men that were you dating them all at the same time

00:17:27.980 seen getting to know them yeah but so okay you would be like on the you'd be this guy on the third date

00:17:35.980 this guy on the fourth date this guy on the seventh date like until you become exclusive yeah that's like

00:17:41.100 very common sure and so how many people were you uh just dating at the same time well there's a difference

00:17:47.820 between getting out there putting yourself out there and just meeting people yeah and then

00:17:52.060 there's a difference between consistently dating someone to get to know them so maybe two or three

00:17:56.860 guys that you were consistently seeing for a couple oh yeah for a few weeks yeah and they do they all

00:18:03.420 know about each other and like well they were doing that you have open conversation and you tell them

00:18:07.900 like i just put myself out there i'm meeting people like you're very upfront so yeah i feel like it's

00:18:12.540 like there's our conversation i'm dating like i'm going on dates with people or like him and i are

00:18:17.100 dating yeah that's different it's a verb yeah so you were going on dates with right and the men were

00:18:22.940 cool with it like they they were just like that's good you do you and let me know yeah i feel like

00:18:27.820 early on you don't need to like when you first meet someone you don't need to until you have a

00:18:31.980 conversation all of that yeah you have to get to know them okay well i'll come in on this in just a

00:18:37.340 second but so what about what's the most amount of guys that you've you were seeing like uh seeing

00:18:44.380 at one time i don't know because the pandemic was a cluster so if you like i are so why don't you

00:18:52.380 clarify the question like how many men was i meeting just like back to back trying to get to know

00:18:57.980 or consistently dating because that's a very different posture so how about this at the the peak of the

00:19:04.220 cluster how many total men did you go on a first date with in the period of a

00:19:19.180 and i mean in the beginning like there's context there's context there right like i i i got married

00:19:25.820 at 17. i was married for 14 years i have five kids so for me five kids for me to get out on the dating

00:19:34.060 scene it's a very intentional thing anyways go ahead so for for me to get out on the dating scene

00:19:46.220 it's like i'm very intentional i'm trying i'm trying to seek a partner to continue like raising kids with

00:19:53.420 and things like that right well i'm a little confused though you you said you were intentional

00:19:56.700 but you also said earlier that you don't want the title because you don't want no no no words in your

00:20:05.100 mouth i'm trying to remember precisely what you said yeah you said something along the lines of

00:20:09.020 you'd want to i'll tell you exactly what i said if you'd like to know what i said okay so what i said was

00:20:15.260 the gentleman and i that are in a relationship don't necessarily need the titles we are exclusive

00:20:20.700 we'd had those conversations we are monogamous there's something you said before that though which

00:20:24.620 was along the lines of like women um women should be seeing multiple men women are kind of like i

00:20:31.340 didn't say they should be i said that's what typically is happening i don't remember verbatim

00:20:35.580 what you said precisely but what there was something else that you said that kind of contradicts your

00:20:40.620 statement of you wanting to date intentionally that you kind of wanted to like explore your options

00:20:46.060 basically because i would say i think there's also an intention there with exploring options you're

00:20:51.660 getting so i think people i think what brian's getting at is you you express this interest in

00:20:58.780 being intentional with getting to know uh this guy because hey i got five kids i don't even be

00:21:03.820 screwing around when i have like children at home i want to make sure that you're the guy that can like

00:21:09.820 help me raise these kids so um there's that and you seem very disciplined and decisive about those

00:21:17.260 things but then there's a very laissez-faire kind of attitude when it came to you're like oh i don't

00:21:24.060 really want to define like early on i don't really want to define it we don't really that's not what

00:21:28.780 i said i said we didn't have to use titles because we've already had conversations around being

00:21:34.300 monogamous and exclusive so okay so but there was something like a generally a generally accepted

00:21:40.540 definition of like hey he's my boyfriend hey he's my girlfriend just in the context this

00:21:45.740 conversation is hey we're exclusive yeah exactly like in in the in the i guess area of this

00:21:52.940 definition we could say you're probably boyfriend boyfriend and girlfriend i'm not saying like you

00:21:59.100 guys call each other that i'm just saying in the in the context to refer to well when as soon as you

00:22:03.900 decide to be like monogamous and exclusive i would say that title or not that's essentially what you're

00:22:09.660 getting yeah i don't know all i know is when i like i one time was talking to this guy and he was

00:22:15.340 like if you're even just talking to me even before the first date i only want you talking to me not to

00:22:20.700 any other guy and that's kind of been my experience with men that they want you to focus on one person

00:22:26.540 at a time so so as much as women want to do that and i totally understand you're like just getting out

00:22:31.580 there you want to explore your options in my experience the men are like i don't want you if you're 0.94

00:22:36.220 talking to a bunch of other guys we'll get into that we'll get into that so uh just going back to 0.94

00:22:41.500 my question though uh at the apex of your the the cluster fuck whatever in the pandemic how many 0.67

00:22:51.740 first dates in like with different men in the period of one month time 0.95

00:22:55.580 i would probably say like 30 sometimes i'd go on coffee dates sometimes dinner dates sometimes

00:23:06.620 lunch dates just depends so like one almost one date per day if it was was there more

00:23:11.900 no did you ever go on two dates in one day well yeah that's what i said sometimes it's a coffee date

00:23:17.920 sometimes it's a dinner date and it also depends on like whether or not i have my kids right like

00:23:22.140 that's what i'm saying it's a different posture whenever you're a single parent because you only

00:23:26.320 have this amount of time without kids or you have to pay for child care so you go and you get to know

00:23:31.020 people i feel like that makes a lot of sense to me like you're just like trying to get it yeah

00:23:34.660 figured out okay so did you ever go on three dates in one day no two so the max was like two dates one

00:23:43.580 day so you would do like did you ever cut a date short because you had another date coming up

00:23:49.100 no okay i'm a lot more disciplined than that with my time okay but you did go essentially on

00:23:56.340 in a one month period you went on 30 dates yeah okay let's not even talk about my five-year

00:24:03.040 singlehood life was was it more it's so sad just like it's there there were a lot of first dates like

00:24:12.060 i'm very open about this conversation because like you can get to know someone and chat with them

00:24:17.500 on the online dating world and they're charismatic they're witty you know all these different things

00:24:23.780 and then you meet with them in person and the vibe is off and they're super like shut down they're

00:24:28.480 actually like introverts they can't even hold a conversation or their pictures are like 10 years

00:24:33.980 old and they're 30 pounds heavier and you know they look like they've been through the ringer and i'm

00:24:38.500 just like i've been authentic so that's where it you know that that cycle comes in where you're just

00:24:44.580 like meeting people and weeding them out you're like yeah that's a no no no no you were on the

00:24:48.020 dating apps you said correct yes and you said you were authentic on the dating apps yes okay would you

00:24:54.580 uh do i know you're currently in a thing but do you still have them on your phone no oh you deleted

00:24:59.160 them okay i was gonna say i know we mentioned it before the show i was gonna say we could look at

00:25:05.520 your uh dating apps and see if that checks out well i'm looking so how did you find the time in a one

00:25:13.680 month period to go on 30 dates you have five kids i imagine that would keep you fairly preoccupied

00:25:19.500 well it just depends on how you do your you know schedule but yeah i have like you know child care for

00:25:27.660 my kids or they're gone with their dad or in the summertime they were you know gone for a week at a time

00:25:32.880 and i was home you know i had them for a week at a time i'm an entrepreneur i have a lot of control

00:25:37.480 over my work hours and work schedule right so everybody goes to lunch during a work day

00:25:42.460 yeah sometimes i go on a date so you do a 30 minute date or something like that yeah okay a lot of coffee

00:25:49.020 dates for sure can i ask a question did them did the men usually pay for the dates um no i've got i mean

00:25:55.820 i've gone dutch a lot i've bought my own food you know some men will make it a point to be like

00:26:00.700 no no you know i insist and um my cultural background is a lot more like conservative

00:26:07.940 eastern european men will actually like even take offense you know yeah try and pay for it and stuff

00:26:13.380 so i was just like very aware but i was dating a lot in the pacific northwest at the time and there's

00:26:19.360 a lot of like super liberal like men won't they're afraid to even open doors for women because they feel

00:26:25.980 like someone's gonna like you know i can open my own door you know i'm an independent woman yeah

00:26:31.860 ryan loves roast beef poon donated two hundred dollars my sprinkler goes like this

00:26:37.380 okay uh i mean it's true comes back like this

00:26:47.500 it is unfortunate you know the blm my non-profit big labia matter it's 0.96

00:26:54.540 i'm doing it for the movement doing it for the culture

00:26:58.380 um anyways uh okay so i'm trying to i was gonna ask did your husband pay for the first date

00:27:07.580 my ex not your sorry not your husband sorry the guy you're dating right now oh absolutely yeah

00:27:14.520 can i ask a question yeah um dating like around 30 guys in a month how did you like get rid of them

00:27:19.900 if you just weren't filling the date did you ghost no i don't ghost i typically don't i give good

00:27:25.880 feedback you you get feedback especially if they have a very inauthentic dating app profile i will

00:27:33.500 let them know oh yeah i think that's fair like if someone's well i could be called on that too

00:27:38.900 so so you would you would frequently encounter these men who are inauthentic in the beginning

00:27:44.600 and you would tell them to you know hey this is inauthentic of you yeah well what are your views

00:27:50.700 on women wearing makeup um i think if it's have like i that's a that's a really huge thing actually

00:27:58.040 like it's scary to see some women that are like you know in their they look like they're in their 1.00

00:28:04.540 60s or 70s and then they put makeup on and the shape and and whatnot and then they look like they're

00:28:10.700 in their 30s i feel like if i were a man i would feel super betrayed and um i think makeup is you know

00:28:18.760 great for like enhancing natural beauty but it shouldn't you shouldn't look like a completely

00:28:22.840 different person when you take it off sure so that's my opinion although i would argue i mean

00:28:27.260 you say enhancing natural beauty that's sort of like the marketing spin of what i could just describe

00:28:34.060 that as being inauthentic that's not what you actually look like and i would argue if makeup

00:28:39.880 didn't make you look better than you actually look without makeup you wouldn't wear it i for that

00:28:45.820 like i mean i will call myself on it i wear makeup i use filters on my photos it's completely

00:28:51.860 inauthentic and i know that but i i feel like it's it's hard to live in a society that um put so much

00:28:59.740 pressure on you to like look a certain way and if i felt like i could show up as my natural self

00:29:05.320 like no makeup whatever and be appreciated even at my age as i'm getting older i would do it in a

00:29:11.560 heartbeat and save myself the money and the trouble i i just feel like unfortunately you have a lot of

00:29:17.460 people who if you show up as you are that's not going to be good enough and you shouldn't care what

00:29:21.740 other people think but when you're dating you certainly care of course you care you want to

00:29:25.680 be confident you want to feel good so yeah it's a lie it's a lie but it's sometimes you feel like you

00:29:30.420 don't have a choice i think it's this i mean it's a very similar conversation to men with beards have you

00:29:35.260 ever seen those like side by side like it's really deceptive to see a guy that has a big beard and

00:29:40.560 then if they get rid of it they're like i mean totally different completely different well as

00:29:44.960 somebody who has a beard exactly so i i do have to give a bit of pushback on this they're not

00:29:52.200 comparable now you can certainly you can make the argument that a man for example and to be good

00:29:57.320 faith and charitable a man who has a weak chin for example he can grow a beard and hide his weak chin

00:30:02.140 however it's very different for for one makeup's just it's not natural right also i would

00:30:10.380 argue most makeup typically tends to be applied applied on the top half of the face typically

00:30:15.900 that's where the primary i mean there's lipstick and shit but mostly it's the top half of the face 0.84

00:30:20.640 i would argue that when it comes to beauty and physical attraction someone's top half of their 0.95

00:30:25.660 face is a much is going to contribute much more to how somebody is going to be attracted to you than

00:30:33.640 the bottom half of your face so you said if a man has a weak chin what about if a woman has weak

00:30:39.720 eyebrows or bags under her eyes that are just genetic yeah like my eyeball eyebrows are balding 1.00

00:30:45.540 so you know or people people that are oncology patients that they don't have here let me ask you

00:30:51.820 a question right let me let's talk about hair so i do think it's different because uh one makeup is

00:30:59.020 not it's it's fake like it's not like it's not natural like hair like hair is within the realm

00:31:06.540 of grooming whereas makeup is something totally different but let me ask you a question if a man

00:31:11.260 was balding for example and he was wearing a hat oh i've called plenty of those out too you think

00:31:18.520 that's disingenuous yes okay i don't think because and if that's disingenuous then you have to concede

00:31:23.660 that women wearing makeup is disingenuous too much makeup yes i agree any makeup i don't i disagree i mean

00:31:30.560 then clothing too like we're talking about everything we put externally on our body at this

00:31:35.620 point i think i think so we should just walk around naked like adam and eve and then we know

00:31:40.520 the whole package well i think we can admit it is disingenuous but at the same time um we live in a

00:31:47.420 culture and society that really does not accept us as we are and so at the same time you can call a

00:31:53.620 woman out and blame the woman for oh she's she's trying to look different than she actually looks 1.00

00:31:58.060 you know we have to call it a culture that puts the pressure on the woman to look a different way 1.00

00:32:02.380 so like go ahead and blame me for wearing makeup and you know wearing a push-up bra or whatever else

00:32:07.860 i'm doing but at the same time like blame the society that makes me feel like i have to have

00:32:13.180 these things like it's it's yeah but women women have agency and you can i mean yes there is certainly 1.00

00:32:19.220 pressure on women i can i'd actually be prepared to argue there's actually a greater pressure on men when

00:32:23.820 it comes to this but uh in a sense yes i i would agree with that but but at the same time i mean

00:32:30.980 like yes i have agency but if i show up in my natural self nine times out of ten the men are not going to

00:32:38.160 pick it and it's unfortunate they can preach all they want about authenticity but what they actually

00:32:44.640 do in practice is completely opposite well sure so for example for example hold on let's let me give you

00:32:49.940 an example then let's say i worked at mcdonald's but it was uh expedient for me to lie on my dating

00:32:57.460 profile and say i was a doctor an attorney women tend to find these professions very attractive and i

00:33:04.660 would argue most women who are perhaps in their late 20s early 30s probably wouldn't date a guy who 0.74

00:33:09.880 works at mcdonald's even if he's otherwise a great guy or even attractive they wouldn't maybe take him

00:33:15.560 seriously as a long-term prospect now it would get me the girl to lie and say that i'm an attorney

00:33:22.560 i'm a lawyer i'm a doctor when i'm not that doesn't mean it's a right to do so your argument that

00:33:28.900 well if i did show hold on hold on but your argument though was well if i did show up without

00:33:34.680 makeup the men would find me less attractive if i was on the dating apps and i didn't use filters and

00:33:39.720 i didn't wear makeup less men would swipe on me i'd get less dates well i can make that same argument

00:33:45.740 about the deceptive practices that men make the same argument with a guy who's balding yeah but

00:33:50.480 here's the thing yeah for me in order for this bald man to get more likes or more matches yes hey

00:33:57.780 let's throw a cat yeah so but all of a sudden i'm gonna be understanding and compassionate and

00:34:04.000 that's the difference would you prefer would you prefer to date a guy with a full head of hair

00:34:07.180 i really wouldn't care i want a good man genuinely i really want a good most women 1.00

00:34:11.880 would prefer i'll tell you so okay so years ago yes i mean so yes that is anecdotal i'm different

00:34:18.060 now so i mean that's awesome for you awesome that you are at a place in your life where you're not

00:34:22.700 going to judge a man for being bald that's that's great i think more women should be like you 1.00

00:34:27.300 but thank you statistically just like on average population average uh women will care it's it's 1.00

00:34:33.980 they will demonize men for putting a hat on if they're bald like covering up those things that 1.00

00:34:40.120 they are insecure about when they're doing the exact same thing just with different this is what

00:34:45.180 i'm saying so instead of like i'd like to say something to that oh that's fine yeah so i mean

00:34:50.580 instead of trying to demonize men and accost them for oh you're hiding your uh the things that you're

00:34:57.340 insecure about maybe you should sit back be like what if i were in his shoes i am in his shoes

00:35:03.540 actually because i'm covering stuff up yeah i and that's how i personally feel at this age in this

00:35:09.040 place in my life i i totally get it listen i've got things that make me not as authentic on my dating

00:35:15.240 profile whatever but i also call myself out on it i frequently will post things that don't have a

00:35:20.220 filter and say this is a filter every time someone compliments it but listen like i i understand men

00:35:26.420 have the same pressure but what i'm saying is a lot of times on this podcast you guys want to like

00:35:30.940 come at the women for the things that they do and put on that are fake and whatever but and and the 1.00

00:35:37.080 thing is like men are doing it to us and we are doing it to them and so what i'm saying it's a 50 50 0.96

00:35:41.180 thing if we could all just cut the bullshit and be our real authentic selves but i don't know that

00:35:45.460 that's going to happen i don't think that's going to happen and that's why you know the greatest

00:35:49.780 compromise and the best service that you can do to the public like dating scene is you know if

00:35:55.960 you're insecure about hairline or about skin or whatever post a couple of like your best self

00:36:00.920 when you feel your best but then post a couple of authentic ones too no filter no makeup how do i

00:36:05.980 look when i go camping or how do i look like first thing in the morning or a gentleman that wants to

00:36:10.640 wear like baseball caps because he hates his balding hair but at least sneak one in there where you're

00:36:15.340 like hey my hair is not perfect yeah i give a different prescription like just don't care about social

00:36:22.920 media what if he's your seventh i know i know social media it's it's my i can tell you all the

00:36:30.300 comments that i've received about my physical appearance that have led me to want to change

00:36:34.280 this or that have been said to me in real life at school at work at church at all the places i've

00:36:41.120 been that's where i've received the most okay i understand that that's your experience yet again

00:36:46.400 anecdotal is a big problem but since the inception of social media all of these negative uh

00:36:53.820 well mental or disorders skyrocketed yeah anxiety yes like how people perceive me i all of a sudden

00:37:02.800 i care about that way more not saying that it wasn't a factor because we're social animals we care about

00:37:09.580 what people think of us yes but when you start when you start putting yourself out there on social

00:37:15.900 media on dating apps on the internet all of a sudden that that care becomes amplified and yes i i

00:37:23.180 understand it's easier said than done but if you really wanted to fix that problem that's that's how

00:37:29.920 you well what i i'll say for one thing quickly is that um i never had an insecurity about how i looked

00:37:35.980 until i started using filters and now when i see myself in the phone camera i was a year ago i was

00:37:42.100 posting pictures just as i am no makeup whatever and then i started using a filter just for fun just

00:37:47.740 i never had used them never used snapchat and now it's like i see my face without a filter and it's

00:37:52.800 like holy crap what the hell is that instant botox as you get i know you ladies probably don't feel 1.00

00:37:58.640 it as much but when you get older years down the line things change and i swore i was that girl i'm 0.98

00:38:03.300 like oh i'll take care of myself it'll be great i'll never look like that do you on your dating

00:38:07.220 app do you have any photos with filters i have like three with filters and i think two without

00:38:11.680 filters any without makeup uh i have the one but it has a filter on it yeah um but okay there's also

00:38:20.100 on my social media videos of me recently crying after a hair bleach fail no makeup no filter what just

00:38:28.020 yeah yeah i mean look when it comes to this whole inauthentic thing um i would argue though on dating

00:38:35.040 apps for example absolutely there are men who are going to post photos that are maybe not representative

00:38:39.900 of what they look photos from when they're younger uh maybe even filters i will say somebody myself who

00:38:46.520 was on dating apps uh the i i can't speak from the girl's perspective i'm sure there's guys who

00:38:53.680 post filtered photos i would suspect that the incidence rate of men posting deceptive photos

00:39:01.040 is far less yeah it's so much more common than you think though being on my side it like literally

00:39:08.420 seeing a man with multiple filtered pictures what was your age range on the dating apps because i do

00:39:13.360 know like older guys like that demographic is probably a bit more likely to use filters whereas

00:39:18.600 like a 25 year old my age group well i mean i'm not gonna date a 25 year old right right but you're

00:39:23.100 probably dating like 35 to 45 right right yeah those guys even one filtered even like one filtered

00:39:30.220 photo to me is just like that's just it's just yeah it's super cringy it's like red flag number one

00:39:36.100 like that you have any filtered photos though no okay no a lot of women though like i get that feedback 1.00

00:39:41.740 i could pull up a dating app right now we could look at the women and there are a lot of women that 1.00

00:39:46.580 are not even on there for dating they're just there to promote their only fans or their socials

00:39:51.500 or things like that we can come back to the makeup thing i do want to continue going around yeah on the

00:39:56.340 relationship status we haven't finished that up what about you go ahead okay so i'm 22 when i was 19

00:40:02.800 i dated a jewish dermatologist for two and a half years on and off and he was insane and now i and in 0.54

00:40:12.440 santa barbara i flew in private i i think i i think i've got a crush on my pilot is the thing

00:40:18.740 what's your current relationship status uh well i i think me and my pilot might have a thing going on

00:40:26.240 does he know yeah is this a unilateral yeah he know he knows it hopefully he'll watch this he'll watch

00:40:35.320 this did you talk to him like beyond the flight yeah i mean i mean do you know your pilots yeah

00:40:43.320 i'm yeah so what's your relationship status it's complicated okay i know you're just answer the

00:40:51.240 question though that is the answer to the question it's okay you're you're claiming you took a you took

00:40:56.500 private flight to santa barbara from los angeles to santa barbara that's correct so it's like a

00:41:02.960 private jet why it's a little cessna why didn't you fly commercial uh because i would prefer to fly

00:41:12.680 private why wait hold on you said you're neat what did you make a bunch of crypto or something

00:41:19.640 no i'm scared of crypto i was asked to promote uh a certain uh a certain coin but i didn't i didn't

00:41:28.360 do it um but uh what okay so okay you said you're not in you're not going to school you don't have a

00:41:40.040 job that's correct how do you afford to fly how much was the private jet flight all right dude i mean

00:41:47.820 am i asking you how much your your flights cost you know well you're the one who talked about

00:41:52.800 yeah we're just like asking questions i did i i flew in private okay i believe you how much

00:41:58.760 how much i mean because because you guys don't don't put up the cost for the flight do you

00:42:03.260 no we don't or the accommodations either i'm staying in a nice place i'm not going to disclose

00:42:09.620 why i'm in a nice place did somebody you know there was a there was a there's a motel six

00:42:14.180 across the across the okay okay stop so did somebody else pay for the flight no you paid

00:42:24.260 for it yes okay do you have a trust fund just seems a bit dubious no i i don't have a trust

00:42:30.780 fund i grew up i like i said first generation immigrant my parents immigrated here from mexico

00:42:36.000 so well that's that's why i'm that's why i'm asking because you're not in school you're not

00:42:41.960 employed but but you don't ask these sort of questions you're not supposed to ask she did

00:42:45.260 date a rheumatologist dermatologist dermatologist two and a half years i mean he was okay if you

00:42:51.420 want me to say what he was he was a jewish doctor he was from coney island he he didn't grow up with

00:42:57.420 money but he did he listen i'm sorry barry but i'm gonna i'm gonna blast you out here um he went

00:43:04.580 to darvin the darvin school of medicine oh okay we just want to know how you how you made money

00:43:12.720 because you don't have a job yeah exactly like where is the money don't you just don't you realize

00:43:17.340 that's somewhat curious that is somewhat curious that would lead that would lead a lot of people

00:43:22.380 to ask questions no i of course i did but but i'll tell you this i i'm a writer i have a sub stack

00:43:28.720 all right it's a sub stack.com at blassie uh slash yeah yeah answer the question what was the

00:43:35.880 question oh we're getting lost in all this how did you afford the flight here sorry i have a hair

00:43:42.280 on my face if if i walked into a studio and sat down and said hey i don't have a job i i'm not

00:43:50.720 making money in any way oh i'm you didn't say that but by all uh appearances yeah you're not making

00:43:58.180 money in any way sure but i flew on a private jet yeah i did i mean do you guys know your

00:44:05.180 super nice little place so you're sleeping with the pilot i'm not i'm not i i never said i was

00:44:10.780 sleeping with the pilot you're sleeping with the person who paid for your flight here and the nice

00:44:15.140 accommodations i mean i don't know how she would get it if you're not working and you don't have

00:44:19.300 money from your family or like it just it just feels like you're jerking our chain here yeah oh yeah

00:44:24.380 totally a troll i'm sorry call me yeah because i was asking you your relationship status and you're

00:44:29.340 doing this like performative thing of well me and the private jet pilot you know there's

00:44:36.020 okay i mean i mean i could i could text him he saved in my in my uh phone so you met him a couple

00:44:43.340 hours ago no i've met him a few months ago oh that changes things does it all right i'll be honest

00:44:51.060 he's my boyfriend i like him very much he happens to be a pilot so i don't i don't know

00:44:57.740 if i can believe anything you're saying it just sounds yeah okay so wait when i asked your

00:45:03.860 relationship status what it was complicated so now you have a boyfriend right that's true

00:45:09.840 um those two things are they're contradictory i mean are you asking the question which one's true

00:45:17.060 that it's complicated or that you have a boyfriend i've listen i've got i've got a boyfriend okay is

00:45:23.520 he a friend boy or is he a boyfriend he's a boyfriend you can ask him how long you've been

00:45:28.980 dating him um not that long it's it's a it's a new thing okay so like maybe like a couple weeks

00:45:39.260 what's your longest relationship my longest relationship like i said i started my first

00:45:43.680 boyfriend was when i was 19 it was two and a half years on and off or so um he was a jewish

00:45:50.900 dermatologist i'll say what kind of doctor he was he was a jewish dermatologist from coney island he

00:45:56.020 went to darwin medical school so i'm sorry i'm gonna put all the business out there um about you

00:46:01.760 okay um i have so i'm 19 i have just been single my whole life i've been i've been in like talking

00:46:08.960 stages but never like an official relationship what's the longest i guess talking stage you've

00:46:14.120 had probably like four months four months so four months is like the longest consecutive period of

00:46:19.720 time that you've seen a guy yeah but it wasn't you wouldn't consider him your boyfriend yeah like

00:46:24.920 it wasn't labeled it was just like talking and then yeah it's like a situation okay how long ago was

00:46:29.980 that uh that was like a year ago it's when i was in high school okay were you guys exclusive uh we

00:46:36.860 no not really it was like we would talk about being exclusive but we never like were officially

00:46:41.200 like well i was but yeah and so uh is that why it ended yeah any prospects here in college

00:46:51.060 no like going back to what alissa was saying i feel like a lot of people a lot of guys first years

00:46:55.960 like you'll be talking to someone and a lot of people don't want to take it seriously or they

00:46:59.720 just kind of want to they're looking for like hookups not like official relationships okay uh

00:47:05.160 question for you two actually have you ever friend zoned a guy uh yeah did he want a relationship with

00:47:10.740 you yeah so there are men you're just not attracted to them well here yeah sure yes i mean i guess i have

00:47:22.800 but like i don't know how i'm sorry i don't know how serious they really were at the end of the day

00:47:29.340 like we can't give them the benefit of the doubt that they were going to take me serious

00:47:32.860 you know what i mean okay yeah you're not obligated to date a guy just because he's nice

00:47:38.020 you know that's true what if sure but the complaint it's just it's just it's it's your own it's your own

00:47:43.760 personal complaint was like oh no guys want to actually take a relationship seriously if you if you

00:47:49.260 don't oh go ahead go ahead but i'm gonna friend zone the guys who probably are more serious than

00:47:54.960 the rest right because women if they don't want to women either want to don't don't see a guy as a 1.00

00:48:02.200 human being or they want to ruin their lives over a guy and is that so wrong is that our fault um i

00:48:09.480 don't think that's accurate i would not agree you guys wouldn't agree you guys you know ruin your

00:48:15.900 life over a man or or ruin his i don't know what you even said but women are dogs that's what i'm 1.00

00:48:22.640 saying that's not true i'm just saying you heard it here first folks you know either either you would

00:48:28.940 ruin your life over a man or you don't even see him as a person or you would have a healthy

00:48:34.380 functioning relationship imagine that well maybe you're not latina i'm latina and so that's how i

00:48:41.160 feel all mexicans are dysfunctional in relationships yeah don't you know this 1.00

00:48:48.580 come on it's being sarcastic this isn't that this isn't true sarcasm i'm just saying because you live

00:48:54.500 a life of dysfunction does not mean that all i don't live a life of dysfunction i live a life of

00:48:59.800 great function yeah wait yeah also like i i this this whole trope of like well i'm a fiery latina

00:49:05.960 like that i'm not saying that there's plenty of latina women who are like name five name five of 1.00

00:49:12.600 them in healthy relationships really she just said her mother yeah do you know him right there do you

00:49:19.200 know him i want to ask the two other latina wait are you latina okay yeah what do you guys have to

00:49:25.100 say about are you gonna let her slander the latin culture one of those like stereotypes that some 0.91

00:49:32.520 people like to feed into and other people like don't and i really don't think it's accurate and i

00:49:38.860 specifically don't like to feed into someone says are her parents illegal they might be deported next

00:49:43.940 year what do you think i think what a dog you are what a dog and like you might be one of those

00:49:51.240 people who feed into that like fetish of like i'm like i'm spicy i don't know what it's like in the 0.85

00:49:55.740 south side of chicago it's probably a white guy none of you guys know what it's like in the south

00:50:00.260 side of chicago i do i have plenty of friends out there really what part uh well some of them live

00:50:06.260 in niles and some of them legitimately grew up chicago proper of chicago that's not niles is not

00:50:11.820 chicago proper okay not now tilt your mic down a little bit they've moved like this a little less

00:50:17.560 like this yeah there you go good job great proud of you all right all right thank you uh okay okay

00:50:24.920 what about you your relationship status um i've been single my whole life what's the longest period

00:50:30.300 of time that you've seen anybody it was definitely one-sided like just between me he definitely didn't

00:50:35.020 like me but i kept like um basically like he didn't like you no definitely not yeah it's like that

00:50:43.500 quote saying like he's not talking to you he's responding that's that was my whole life whole

00:50:49.700 senior year okay and so you were like in this whatever it was like it was like a thing a

00:50:57.640 situation ship for like two weeks and then i was like coming to college and i'm like he didn't take

00:51:00.740 me serious all year you know what wait two weeks yeah two weeks it was literally two weeks well how

00:51:05.040 long were you talking to him though for two weeks oh two weeks you've only crushed on a guy you've

00:51:09.600 only crushed on a guy for like two weeks like there was no one in high school that you all senior

00:51:13.360 year but he didn't like me back just till like the end of senior year and i was like kind of like

00:51:17.280 at that point but you've never honestly i did get bored of it and i ghosted him but you're beautiful

00:51:21.940 you've never had a guy that was like really interested in you that you like entertained and

00:51:26.460 talked to and kind of got to know i've been on like one date but after that i was kind of like

00:51:29.520 yeah i don't see anything so would you say you're kind of picky or yeah definitely in what way

00:51:34.700 like what are your standards um i like a cool guy like well that's like a bad boy guy like this

00:51:43.680 that's a person like she's going out vibes and there's nothing wrong with that surfer skater guy

00:51:49.360 it's definitely that's cool surfer skater boy and a surfer skater boy would not provide for you

00:51:54.080 no she's in college you're like i go to ucsb hello there you go yeah i think with girls who are in

00:52:00.920 college i don't think they're super preoccupied with like the guy's income yes you're just dating

00:52:06.240 everybody's just getting started at that time yeah it's not as um okay so uh uh surfer

00:52:15.220 do you have to be tall yeah i'm pretty i'm how tall are you i'm five six so like bare minimum height

00:52:21.680 what are we talking like five nine oh that's that's not unreasonable that's like the average

00:52:27.140 that's not unreasonable that's good i'll just say when you get older that may change because

00:52:33.080 do they shrink no it's just great question they do actually coming from a nurse they do you think

00:52:39.240 that you're gonna settle when you're younger holy god you'll settle a lot more when you're older and

00:52:44.420 i'm telling you like i disagree no no you will because the the i don't think she's unreasonable 0.83

00:52:50.300 like five no no no it's not unreasonable sorry that dropped but uh it's not unreasonable it's

00:52:56.540 just i don't know why should we tell women to settle we shouldn't tell women to settle no but

00:53:01.820 realistically everyone's going to settle for something why why is no one's perfect no one's

00:53:06.660 perfect you'll never find the person who that's not true you might you might just find them i don't

00:53:11.160 i don't think there's a settle i think it's compromise yeah what are your negotiables what are

00:53:15.860 your non-negotiables i think women don't even know what they want going in 1.00

00:53:19.500 i think women they'll find something and then they'll they'll see that this is what they like 1.00

00:53:24.260 and it'll it'll totally transcend any of the previous i think that's a blanket statement that

00:53:29.640 doesn't apply to all women that's why relationships don't work when people go into it just saying well 1.00

00:53:34.760 i like this person i'm attracted to this person you don't think about your goals or your values or

00:53:39.780 your boundaries or any of those things and so you have nothing to base a proper relationship on it's

00:53:44.340 just like oh this is fun and then it fizzles out because it doesn't always stay fun

00:53:49.120 forever you speak french no why do i have a slightly french accent well you said you're

00:53:53.580 in toronto you're in the i'm in kingston i mean i could sing a french song just we and pizza but

00:53:59.260 that's about it okay uh let's go back to you uh your relationship status i am in a relationship

00:54:05.240 i've been in a relationship for about a year and a half you guys engaged no just just boyfriend

00:54:11.780 girlfriend yeah okay yeah longest relationship um this one okay all right mason what about you

00:54:19.260 give us the whole details the whole detail all the details yes okay um so i am single uh my longest

00:54:26.540 relationship has been a year um uh yeah i'm not really looking for anybody right now because

00:54:34.560 if i were to find somebody and then get into the air force special warfare i'd be like i'll see you in

00:54:40.100 like two years yeah and uh that's not conducive to a relationship yeah whole details though whole

00:54:47.120 details whole detail oh yeah okay sorry brian i apologize um i am uh also a virgin waiting till

00:54:54.720 marriage um that's awesome i'm a i'm a uh really devout christian so that's really important to me

00:55:02.620 and brian uh is my gatekeeper to make sure that i find somebody who is also a virgin oh my god he's

00:55:10.860 your chastity belt he is my chastity belt that's not for you they have to be a virgin they uh or like 1.00

00:55:17.640 it depends who you ask i think mason how are you gonna find out yeah what do you mean is that like

00:55:22.440 first date question ask ask him yeah um yeah so uh yeah i uh my lawyer would uh say that they have

00:55:33.320 to be a virgin i'll respond to i will respond on his bath as his counsel as his counsel wait that's 0.75

00:55:39.340 kind of hot what's hot like you like you taking care of his chastity belt like you you holding the 0.79

00:55:45.980 yeah i i would say it is would anybody agree with somebody with what a brave soul agree with me

00:55:52.160 have you guys seen challengers the movie challengers with zendaya and mike face no okay so yeah what

00:56:02.420 direct any questions so if she was not always a christian became a christian and is now celibate

00:56:08.620 is that still no counsel no no well he it she has to be christian right okay she has to be

00:56:18.420 christian and is like recommitted are you what are you protestant what are you yeah i'm protestant

00:56:22.480 orthodox no i'm not orthodox all right so

00:56:26.840 under certain circumstances my client would consider dating a woman who's not a virgin

00:56:33.860 although that would not be our first negotiating position he does he would prefer to date a woman

00:56:40.760 who's a virgin it's not a hundred percent a deal breaker but there will have to be additional

00:56:45.480 compensation and consideration uh if her chastity is not intact his chastity is he is waiting until

00:56:54.080 marriage is that correct you're waiting until marriage before you have carnal knowledge of a

00:56:58.100 woman is that why don't you guys just get at it you two this is a professional 1.00

00:57:03.860 relationship he is my counsel i'm yeah we would never we would never ruin this yeah with whatever

00:57:10.760 you're insinuating but like we're also both heterosexuals sure but this is all this is all

00:57:15.940 this can all be uh you know you're taking care of him that's that's that's a nice thing

00:57:21.760 i have a question are you asking her on the first date because if you are how would you find out if

00:57:29.380 there is like compensation what is compensation yeah what are we in like freaking tanzania where

00:57:35.960 there's a bride price like please yes like how are you even gonna find that out she's perfect in

00:57:41.780 every way like wait find what out that she's like the perfect girl like you know what i mean a good 0.94

00:57:46.740 match that her hymen is intact how would you find out if she's a good match if you're like dropping her 0.99

00:57:52.400 after finding out she's not a virgin you know well look there's other factors that are involved you

00:57:58.460 know obviously he wants he's look at this physical specimen here if she's a physical specimen that 1.00

00:58:04.140 would be helpful obviously her christian values and ethics and morals very important you know her

00:58:09.640 willing willingness to be uh cooperative and submissive because in the christian faith you have

00:58:15.880 you have christ husband wife children yes that's the sort of biblical order and then what else what

00:58:26.320 else do we have oh let's let's keep let's keep going what does her bmi have to be i want to know

00:58:30.660 i grew up you might be okay wait mason what's that i have a question for mason hold on grid one

00:58:37.420 motorsports donated two hundred dollars i have a plane does that make me cool my wife is awesome and 1.00

00:58:44.540 neither of us settled do not buy into this woman prattle there is a reason they are single ladies 1.00

00:58:50.880 how may the patriarchy help you today yo grid one what kind of plane do you have

00:58:56.940 yeah don't i'll tell you if that makes you cool or not okay i like you're yelling inside voice please

00:59:07.120 wait let's get back to this yo grid one thank you for the for the uh message she is curious what

00:59:13.000 kind of plane you have sure so are you interested in grid one not really not at all he had his wife

00:59:19.440 he's a wife he's not interested he's got a wife he's just he's just showing off his plane yeah there 0.52

00:59:25.020 you go okay so i had a question for mason wait hold on you had a question first i think and then we'll

00:59:29.620 get to you what was your question again oh um are you asking on the first day asking what like if

00:59:36.180 she's a virgin wait can i ask you what if her what if her hymen was broken in a bicycle on a bicycle 1.00

00:59:44.960 wait hold on hold on hold on you gotta scoot the microphone that way just once i place it just leave

00:59:50.620 it where it is scoot it down now scoot it towards you towards you yep and then scoot it to your left

00:59:56.480 there you go okay i don't don't touch it don't move it anymore okay how about it so yeah he would

01:00:03.340 he would ask how about if her hymen was broken uh riding a bicycle that would not or a horse yes

01:00:10.360 if they're using tampons or if they're horse riders some women don't even without those things don't 1.00

01:00:17.340 necessarily have a hymen you could just hope that they're honest individuals and they just tell you

01:00:21.560 the truth i know that's a difficult concept for you to grasp why is that a difficult concept for

01:00:26.540 me to grasp well you seem to be a bit like playing a game i mean yeah there has been evidence to the

01:00:31.080 contrary and which is it well your omission when i asked you your relationship status you weren't

01:00:37.960 just up front and you just didn't well can i can i ask you something out of all the women that have 1.00

01:00:43.100 been on this show what it what how many have you bagged you know because i this is my first time

01:00:48.280 that i've been to santa barbara this is the one of the most beautiful places i've ever been in my

01:00:52.600 entire life i see how this is relevant i i i'm gonna make it relevant this is one of the most

01:00:57.980 beautiful places i've ever been to in my entire life it's seriously gorgeous and you're in a den

01:01:03.700 taking uh women to places where it looks like they've gotten caught like shoplifting and how many

01:01:09.620 how many people are talking about no i kind of get that this looks like a place where where you go

01:01:14.620 after you get caught shoplifting at cvs and how would you know that and the security takes you

01:01:20.300 and but but this is this is such a wonderful place come on don't act like you don't know what i mean

01:01:25.260 and this is this is the place that you have them in and you're negging them and so what what's the

01:01:31.260 what's the deal why aren't you bagging these women why aren't you taking them to bed 1.00

01:01:35.480 that's my question i don't think you understand what's happening here wait i don't no she doesn't

01:01:41.600 well it's a total non-sequitur yes well maybe because you're canadian i may not you may not

01:01:46.720 understand i don't understand anything because i'm sorry guys it's my canadians sorry you know

01:01:51.720 sorry sorry a boot like you know the whole thing like it's like a different it's a different culture

01:01:58.840 all i'm gonna say is you're i think you're trolling this whole show and like derailing the

01:02:02.740 i'm not trolling this whole show i'm asking honest questions that i have you really are

01:02:07.400 yeah so so we i'm not going to address your non-sequitur because we're in the midst of a

01:02:12.300 conversation about mason perhaps later on i was being deposed with you there yes that's right

01:02:17.120 yeah so to answer your question yeah he would probably yeah we we'd ask we are you are you

01:02:24.240 will you be accompanying every day so okay it's a it's a bit you don't have a you don't have a

01:02:29.500 answer to the question stop interrupting it's a bit uh if girls are interested in mason they're 1.00

01:02:35.720 dming him mason do you get a lot of dms from from girls i get dms from females he gets a lot of dms 0.99

01:02:41.300 from from ladies and so through the dms he can negotiate however he wants uh as his uh his

01:02:48.820 acquaintance his friend he's certainly welcome to ask me for advice on anything and i think i have a

01:02:53.840 pretty good eye for uh you know who could potentially be a good match or not but uh you know this is

01:02:59.500 mostly just a bit for the show but i mean i certainly advise mason that given that he's a

01:03:05.880 virgin i think it would it would make sense to me that he can find a girl who's a virgin he's an

01:03:11.160 attractive guy he's got good ethics and morals and values all that so i don't suspect he'll have

01:03:17.300 any trouble if that's what he desires i don't think he'll have any trouble finding a virgin but it's

01:03:21.600 not i don't think it's clear to me that that's a hundred percent deal breaker for you like if you

01:03:24.980 meet a fantastic woman who's had a previous one two three partners doesn't what's the limit on the

01:03:29.700 body count uh limit i i i would definitely want to blow five uh statistically five or above you 0.77

01:03:38.020 like only a 20 chance of successful marriage you've had virgins contact you correct yeah yeah i 0.99

01:03:45.060 definitely have oh i'm sure how old are you 28 okay i have a little question though because you

01:03:51.120 were saying about like the dating apps now i imagine that looking the way you do you probably

01:03:56.160 have a lot of women who just come to you but you say like you know the dating apps we should all get

01:04:00.840 off the dating apps and social media and i do agree i'd love to be off the dating apps but how would

01:04:05.600 you advise meeting people when like outside of the dating apps because i i found it kind of interesting

01:04:14.220 as uh i don't know grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars oh have a few the coolest is

01:04:22.540 a long easy not a cessna unemployed mullet girl is completely bad faith and useless she should plant 1.00

01:04:29.200 a tree for the oxygen she wastes daily frank castle this is sparta if you if you can tell me how to plant a

01:04:37.700 tree if you can tell me how to plant a tree then i then i'd be glad to do it what does he say have a

01:04:44.260 few the coolest is a long easy not a cessna all right first of all a cessna is great if you have

01:04:50.200 a little plane to yourself that you can fly around the you don't have the plane to yourself you have

01:04:54.900 someone okay do you have one i'm sorry you're talking like you're toting a boeing 47 you know

01:04:59.740 47 you know what i mean unfortunately not all of us are materialistic and i'm just letting you

01:05:06.120 and maybe that's why you're single because i don't chase materials it doesn't even make a lick of

01:05:11.440 maybe maybe if you were maybe if you were you know you should cool your jets and try and learn from

01:05:17.040 other women that have gone cool your jets i'm i'm already cooling my jets i'm in a cessna 40 i i 0.53

01:05:24.700 flew here you're screaming and how much did you have to drink today because you're screaming and 0.95

01:05:30.660 you're trolling and you're being ridiculous no offense i'm sorry i'm sorry of course you're 0.70

01:05:36.620 sorry because you're canadian but listen because i'm a kind person have you ever read have you ever 0.99

01:05:40.920 read the book why men love bitches have you ever read it no because i haven't read it there you go 1.00

01:05:47.440 fakeness no no no you haven't read it because it's true we got our guy in the back going no i'm 0.99

01:05:54.120 serious why men love bitches you got to read it well actually you'd be better off reading like 1.00

01:05:58.840 freudian psychoanalysis that's how old are you i'm gonna be 37 in july so you should shut your mouth 0.99

01:06:05.740 a little bit because why is that you why is that because do you have a husband no i don't okay

01:06:12.420 it's by choice it's by choice i'm waiting is it really by choice is it really by choice

01:06:17.420 yes no it's because you're too argumentative and you're and you're and you're pretending

01:06:21.760 because you're pretending you're pretending to like not care back on track because we all came 0.98

01:06:30.340 here to have a discussion about relationships and you're fucking derailing everything and all right 0.98

01:06:34.920 well don't say the f word that's not that's not very nice i can do whatever the hell i damn well 0.98

01:06:38.980 please oh my gosh and she said the h and the d word oh my god goodness gracious is she even from 0.84

01:06:45.540 canada am i even from canada someone please my family friends who are watching please vouch for

01:06:51.820 me canadian sue me god all right jeez i'm sorry i just can't handle the like the ridiculousness we're

01:06:59.880 here to have a conversation please stop screaming please let everybody have a conversation without

01:07:04.300 all the insanity we're all having a conversation no you're having no you're having a monologue that's

01:07:09.820 very different all right is it so bad if i have a monologue because you're in my ear having a

01:07:15.640 monologue this is not all right well you can move you could no i can't i was assigned here

01:07:19.840 that's not that was in my doing it wasn't my doing it's that's literally your doing nobody

01:07:25.980 it wasn't my doing to have you sat where the place you are anyway i'm sorry that you guys don't

01:07:30.600 have husbands i'm sorry that i might have one in a year i'm sorry about that i can guarantee you

01:07:35.840 whatever marriage i'm sorry i'm sorry for your husband for your future husband yeah i'm sorry 0.99

01:07:40.000 no uh wait yeah sorry you didn't pay him is not going to work out because you're a lunatic you're 0.99

01:07:45.460 a raging lunatic i will i may be a lunatic some people like that get you got to read the book 0.99

01:07:50.340 god almighty save me i'm sorry god you're sorry all right we get it you you don't have to be 0.98

01:08:02.480 disrespectful yeah you are so disrespectful no because you start you know you first leave leave

01:08:07.280 the floor to everybody else for a little bit like can you just like you first it started with them

01:08:11.820 not letting me put on my sunglasses i mean i'm blasphemy for christ's sake that's what i do i have

01:08:16.660 read the fine print i put that i'm not i'm not reading anything i'm having people read it for me

01:08:22.020 okay oh my good god and see david trezny you know what you are my polish man don't just donated

01:08:27.940 ten dollars he's having a great time come on people we're having a great time having no you're

01:08:33.160 having a great time by yourself and why aren't you you are in my ear having the monologue you are what

01:08:38.960 is making women look bad i've never met one girl we're not gonna yeah please god take control so

01:08:47.180 we don't have to keep doing well i'm just i mean you're big girls i'm just letting i just cannot

01:08:51.560 i've never met one girl who didn't take can i ask a question that's the mc's job yes all right

01:08:57.380 will somebody read it i'd love to see what he says play one thing

01:09:00.360 i didn't think i'd get in a fight while i was here i'm gonna read a couple chats we have dylan

01:09:09.300 lolly ladies would you prefer to be college educated and work or be a housewife please explain your 1.00

01:09:14.500 answer gustava spoke english last thought i feel betrayed uh so we're gonna start with you would

01:09:19.940 you prefer to be college educated and work or be a housewife and explain your answer please

01:09:24.020 i definitely want to go like finish college and get an education and get a job but if i were to meet

01:09:32.740 a guy who could like support me and my family that i would potentially have and he told me that it was

01:09:39.160 like okay to like just be a housewife then i would be okay with quitting my job but i don't want to have 0.60

01:09:45.920 to depend on him and not be able to just leave him if i needed to so that's why i want to continue

01:09:51.880 like with my let's assume he was like a good you know it wasn't going to devolve into some like

01:09:57.080 abusive situation like he's just going to be a good husband but you know he's well off and he's like

01:10:03.220 babe you don't need to work i want you to just take care of the kids take care of the household 1.00

01:10:06.620 uh you do that i'll take care of everything else well i would carry out with my education i'm not

01:10:12.500 going to not like finish it sure so you'd finish that by the time you're what 21 yeah no i actually

01:10:19.400 want to go like get a master's get a master's let me ask you a question what if you met a guy

01:10:23.840 in your junior year he was maybe a couple years older than you and he maybe he's already working

01:10:32.420 already successful and you could tell like okay this guy's going to be able to provide for me maybe

01:10:37.560 out and have to work and he's like hey i want to take care of you let's start a family let's do it

01:10:44.920 now don't go get your master's in what you what did you say you were studying uh psychology psychology

01:10:50.280 yeah forget that uh just get your graduate or your uh your bachelor's degree that would honestly make

01:10:57.740 me question his character exactly not support my goals my ambitions because i want to do that like i

01:11:04.020 want to be able to have an education and a career like i don't see why he would want me to depend on

01:11:08.620 him well for in further instance do you want you want to get married one day yeah have kids yeah okay

01:11:15.620 how much do you know how many kids you want um two what if he wants seven seven sons 0.99

01:11:21.040 seven sons seven sons i don't think i can control the gender well you just keep going until you have 0.72

01:11:27.740 seven so i don't think i don't think we would get along well then i don't think it would be a good match

01:11:32.000 she doesn't align with that person yeah obviously i don't think it would work out so he could say you

01:11:36.520 never have to work another day in your life i will take care of everything but you would still want to

01:11:42.600 do would you when you say your career what would your career be um i want to be a psychologist

01:11:48.440 eventually like a do clinical psychology like see patients yeah so just to be clear uh and would

01:11:54.380 you want to work full-time i'm not sure yet and so would you be treating people who have is there

01:12:00.320 like a specialty you want to pursue i don't know just like talk therapy probably counseling yeah okay

01:12:06.840 what do you think would be a better use of your time talking to total strangers for money that you

01:12:14.940 just hear them complain all day and then you hear perhaps their trauma which could have some impact on

01:12:20.540 you uh hearing people tell you their terrible stories day in day out having to put all your empathy

01:12:27.000 and nurturing into total strangers in exchange for money or you don't have to work a day in your

01:12:33.540 life you don't have to deal with any stress uh at least that's related from work you take care of the

01:12:38.580 household you take care of your husband you take care of your children do you still prefer having the

01:12:44.260 career over if if your husband's successful enough to provide you with uh you not having to ever work a day

01:12:51.120 in your life which do you prefer the only thing that i'd be scared of is that one day i wouldn't

01:12:56.800 want to be with him anymore and now i can't leave him because i have no way of providing for myself

01:13:01.260 well if you're married let's say you were married to him and there was no for example

01:13:05.120 there was no prenuptial well even if there was a prenuptial agreement you would still be entitled to

01:13:09.380 uh the money that was earned during the relationship um certain entitlements when it perhaps even

01:13:16.480 came to alimony child support etc so even if that did happen you wouldn't be totally out on the

01:13:21.740 streets and i assume you'd have a family support system even if it did happen let's assume it didn't

01:13:26.100 though um are you concerned that you would leave him despite him being for example let's say there's

01:13:32.740 no abuse in the relationship yeah maybe you just you fall out of love but he's still he's a wonderful

01:13:37.960 father wonderful husband treats you well supportive provider no alcohol no no drug abuse no gambling

01:13:44.500 nothing great guy but maybe you just you get bored you fall out of love would that be the scenario that

01:13:50.060 you're worried about hypothetically are you also saying that he's never going to get into any kind

01:13:56.680 of accident become a paraplegic or quadriplegic and actually need for her to go and support the

01:14:02.000 whole family including the kids that's true because if he's a bowling ball then i don't know if i want

01:14:06.220 him anymore a bowling pin yikes okay uh no but that that's the reality because this is you know this

01:14:12.160 actually hits close to home with me i have a non-profit for domestic violence survivors

01:14:16.320 fleeing with children and many many women you think that's a majority of women's experiences

01:14:22.700 or just a majority of people that go through the this organization you're talking about so

01:14:27.820 let me allow me to explain what happens wait actually hold on i did that before you do i did

01:14:33.760 ask you a question so assuming all those things are true that i listed out yeah would you still want

01:14:40.060 to pursue your career over your family ambitions i want to have like at least like the education

01:14:47.140 i don't have to have started like my career well okay what if your husband and he listens to you but

01:14:53.560 he says well uh would you look to your potential husband to help you finance your career or your

01:15:02.100 your because it's is it pretty expensive to get a master's degree yeah okay um what are your plans for

01:15:08.660 that currently how are you how are you going to finance your master's degree i'm not sure yet

01:15:13.640 maybe student how are you financing your current education my parents your parents are paying for

01:15:17.800 it yeah okay master's degree are they going to pay for it too or what are you thinking we haven't

01:15:22.140 discussed it yet but they know that that's like the route i want to take possibly student loans

01:15:26.880 because i do have siblings that want to go to college as well how many siblings do you have i have

01:15:31.160 two okay and are they in college yet or are you the oldest i am the oldest okay so they're not in

01:15:36.520 college yet but they will be soon yeah and they're probably i assume they're also going to want to go

01:15:39.620 to university get an education okay uh so let's say you had to take out student loans to do this okay

01:15:50.300 yeah but your fiancee let's say he's proposed to you says well i think we should save that money

01:15:56.840 and put it towards our future family so the question is like would i be okay with that

01:16:05.940 and just stopping school after my bachelor's and just starting a family yes um i would be okay with

01:16:12.500 that yeah okay cool did you have you had something right yeah i think oh hold on oh there's two

01:16:23.480 one motorsports donated 200 planning ahead for a divorce is ultimate cringe women submit to their 1.00

01:16:31.440 husbands who leads the family the lack of faith in your ability to choose a good man or keep a good

01:16:37.560 man is terrible be better all right sounds like a basement dweller no i think that he's actually

01:16:43.140 correct because planning for a divorce i think it's being realistic yeah you don't know what's going

01:16:48.280 on through someone's but but the point is if you have like the right clothes for a family dylan lolly

01:16:53.880 donated 200 dollars stop it brixton they get no education that's fully dependent or fully independent

01:17:01.040 i'm gonna pull up the original one you're right so the original one was thank you dylan was would you

01:17:06.920 prefer to be college educated and work or be a housewife and then explain your answer so i guess it's

01:17:13.180 like so you i'm assuming you mean hey drop out of college either or either or yeah either or okay

01:17:20.140 i'm not but does so does this uh scenario does it mean that

01:17:25.960 so they can't wait or be a housewife okay well so it's college educated and work or be a housewife

01:17:37.700 so you i so there's no like there's no like hey uh maybe after i get my education and we have a

01:17:44.960 family maybe i'll work or like we're not blending the two it's either you work and have a college

01:17:52.040 education or you're a housewife there's no like in between yeah so like gun to your head you got to

01:17:59.440 make a decision yeah which one are you picking um oh so so it's you're college educated but you

01:18:06.720 never end up having a family basically basically i think so i think that's what it is you're caught

01:18:10.940 you get to do your college educated work be college educated never get to have a family or you never

01:18:16.520 get college educated never have a career but you are a have kids family but in a relationship they

01:18:21.920 say like well no i don't i don't think it's necessarily you can't have a family right it's like

01:18:26.820 you you can have a family which one do you prefer but like you're if you're working if both of you

01:18:31.460 are working then hey we're gonna have to pay for child care we're gonna have to let the state raise

01:18:37.240 our children things like yeah dylan do you want to just clarify really quick dylan so is it they get

01:18:42.760 to pursue a career be college educated but never have a family or never have a career never be college

01:18:49.320 educated and but have a you know family kids husband is that is that what you're getting at

01:18:55.180 we'll come back to that really quick we'll go around the table on that one last thing on the

01:18:58.900 virgin virginity thing i think you guys over here had a question did you have a question for this did

01:19:03.680 you yes yeah i yeah my question was have you had those conversations how did they go like on the

01:19:10.460 first date you ask a girl if she's a virgin it's like i don't know yes i do i do ask i do ask the

01:19:16.880 question um it usually comes in the form of like have you been with any guys before or have you dated

01:19:24.120 guys before and if she says yes i've dated or faith conversation maybe what are your yeah generally

01:19:29.420 exactly yeah yeah so yeah i'm doing a lot of digging and then naturally that is going to come

01:19:34.180 up yeah so i'm because i can i can understand where they're coming from are they somebody who puts

01:19:41.040 themselves out there in that way i can usually gauge that just by talking with somebody who also who

01:19:47.720 their friends are like how they live their life that's right um yeah wait is anybody just uh is

01:19:53.180 anyone else here a virgin i was when i got married i don't know yeah but is anybody ever anybody else

01:20:04.000 a virgin i mean i'm largely celibate but certainly not a virgin

01:20:08.020 you're you're a virgin yeah i was just kidding yeah unsurprising okay why is that not surprising

01:20:19.340 okay anyway no i mean you said it so i had a question for you mason your virginity i like what

01:20:25.820 phase in your life of like your religion did you say i'm i'm gonna be a virgin till marriage

01:20:30.800 so because you went through your 20s and like 20s you like you know you drink you do this or i don't

01:20:37.720 know if you do so i think this all just kind of goes back to how i was raised i give my parents

01:20:44.620 i i they are my heroes my dad is the greatest man i have ever known and my mom is the greatest

01:20:52.780 woman i've ever known they gave me incredible examples they when they were growing up in their 20s

01:20:59.640 they definitely weren't like me they were partiers they were crazy sleeping around like but i mean the

01:21:07.080 lord does incredible things and they totally changed their lives around lord changed them completely so

01:21:13.520 give so much credit to them so i think they i guess pulled maturity out of me from a very young age

01:21:21.400 so when i was in high school i'm already thinking through these things they're helping me think

01:21:26.640 through these things what's important to you uh let's turn to god's word what does it say

01:21:31.740 so what do we think about god's word if it is commandment not just because hey do this because

01:21:38.460 i say so but do this i know it doesn't feel in the moment like it's great but it's for your ultimate

01:21:43.800 good it was kind of instilling that into me at an early age so when i got to my 20s i was already

01:21:51.500 somewhat a mature man of course i'm gonna mess around and well i guess depends what you mean

01:21:57.480 about mess around but i'm gonna mess up make mistakes but uh i'm usually miles third base

01:22:03.960 that's really cool that's amazing yeah props to you i'm gonna read it actually um for these hundred

01:22:10.320 ones uh what's your name again alissa alissa i'm gonna have you read the hundred ones

01:22:15.520 this one right yeah i'm sorry it says my disability insurance is so far beyond what i

01:22:23.720 need any disability and my salary doesn't change wife and kids set me a vegetable all right matt

01:22:30.940 thank you for soup chat man appreciate it thank you very much and then we will get back to dylan's

01:22:35.240 comment here he did add a clarifying thing we have just gerald and then alissa let me have you read

01:22:42.580 this one this one up here yeah you don't need to go into it now what was so bad in the marriage that

01:22:52.460 it couldn't be worked on what was going on that justified breaking the family and giving your kids

01:22:57.320 probable abandonment issues you want to give a quick response oh absolutely um as a domestic

01:23:04.200 violence survivor who left with five kids the youngest one being two years old i realized pretty

01:23:09.620 quickly when my eight-year-old said um while we were doing homeschooling living abroad um he looked

01:23:15.880 down at his paper after his dad had finished you know having a very loud altercation with me and said

01:23:21.360 i'm so glad i wasn't born a girl so at some point you have to leave for your kids even though you want

01:23:27.920 to stay for your kids and i don't think anyone that gets married actually gets married with the

01:23:34.520 intention of getting a divorce but i do think those are conversations that need to be had on the

01:23:39.100 forefront so that everyone understands what you're getting into what kind of ramifications happen with

01:23:44.420 these kids and then as they stay in a even a confusingly like hostile marriage how much trauma

01:23:52.160 bonding happens and how that impacts them in their adult lives and how much you have to like

01:23:56.860 go backwards and rewire and unlearn certain things such as like yelling at your spouse or following

01:24:04.680 your spouse around the house to yell at them which is called domestic terrorism things like that so

01:24:09.360 breaking up a family is a lot you know that's a much more loaded topic than just like what we're

01:24:16.400 making it out to be a convenience so to go back to uh dylan lawley's scenario here it was uh would you

01:24:23.860 rather be uh get college educated or be a housewife and he provided some clarification he says they do

01:24:33.000 not get to have a family they do have their dream career so you get your dream career or be a housewife

01:24:41.220 to a loving man so we'll start here again if you want to re-answer it um i in that scenario i'd rather

01:24:49.960 be a housewife i don't want to not have a family well um like my grandma always told me um because

01:24:56.880 she did that and she told me to go out and build a life for myself and then find someone but i can tell

01:25:02.080 you as a single 36 year old woman my time is running out to have a family and um that's something you 0.98

01:25:09.300 can't get back i can't get my 20s back i wish more young women under understood so you can have a 1.00

01:25:15.240 career whenever the heck you want there's 80 year olds that i've seen in college you can build

01:25:19.140 whatever you want you can build it even better if you've got somebody by your side who's a partner

01:25:23.320 to you and i fully regret not doing that and uh i know there's still a little time but i would 100

01:25:30.840 percent choose the housewife plus i love to bake and cook and knit and sew so like i'm down gardening

01:25:35.860 all that love it what about you well as a woman that's done both um you know my intention when i first

01:25:43.980 got married was just housewife i got pushed from every single corner to finish my education to have

01:25:51.400 a career and did thrive and you know i finished my associate degree in nursing um while having our

01:25:59.020 first child returned back after a week had my bachelor you know finished while i was getting induced with

01:26:05.380 our second child helped my ex-husband finish his education while having our third child all while

01:26:11.680 working um had a fourth and fifth child in washington state while having a full-blown critical

01:26:17.180 care career starting up our first you know medical facility so you know i don't think you know if i were

01:26:24.660 to choose and there were a man that actually would have which was the intention yes i don't i don't think

01:26:30.780 any woman that has like that traditional biological clock ticking desire to like be the mother maybe that 1.00

01:26:37.380 you never got to see or or um have the household that you just answer the question from your frame

01:26:43.320 of view right now i'm grateful that i have a career but i would have chosen with a good man to be a

01:26:51.520 housewife and a homemaker because that's a career in itself but but that's past tense let's talk

01:26:57.060 currently right now if you were presented right now with the option of your dream career or

01:27:03.940 being a housewife to a loving one thousand percent housewife okay i love being at home with the

01:27:09.700 kids i would like to just chill i think that if i if i if i had a bunch of kids i think i would

01:27:17.420 probably drown them and so that's not oh that's not that's what i'm that's that's my answer i mean

01:27:24.280 that's a pretty um graphic and so you're just trolling yeah i don't i think it's unproductive

01:27:30.800 but i would i would like i like i would like to just chill and i would like i would like not to

01:27:36.700 have a career and i would like to just hang out you know i'm just gonna say i'm not religious but i

01:27:43.080 will pray for you because i think something is going on with you that is i pray a lot i actually

01:27:48.380 went to the mission yesterday in santa barbara and i knelt and i prayed and it was great although they

01:27:53.480 were closed god needs to touch your soul i'll tell you that he's saying you're gonna try your

01:27:58.020 children that's we should move on yeah yeah that's uh pretty dark it is dark um yeah are you

01:28:07.800 gonna actually like answer the question in good faith though the i answered the question and in

01:28:13.820 good faith it was it was i would rather i think i would just like i would just hang out there's

01:28:19.460 no hanging out you're either a mom and a high five or a career woman there's one or the other

01:28:23.760 and what would your dream career be hanging out well that's not a career option so i'm sorry to tell

01:28:29.540 you that you're sorry but it's true it is okay okay can i ask a question like on the question

01:28:36.760 sure um so you're not allowed to or to pick one or the other if you choose a career would you still

01:28:43.220 be able to like have a family like just with no no no i mean like just like with a husband or a

01:28:49.060 boyfriend does that consist like the family or is it with kids i think the context is kids like

01:28:54.620 housewife yeah building a family kids family husband or dream career yeah no kids no family

01:29:02.980 no husband oh no husband so that was my clarification okay okay then i'd probably yeah i'd probably go with

01:29:08.960 a housewife then i guess but okay what about you uh 100 educated and with my career you you'd pick

01:29:15.680 the career 100 to be single though go without a husband i'd go single i think you can still like

01:29:22.220 yeah that's my question but i don't think you can just in the commitment i'm fine without kids i

01:29:28.680 personally think like if you didn't go to school that's cool you know dope on you but i think it's

01:29:33.020 so cool to like be educated and like it's a flex like if i'm going to uc santa barbara like one of

01:29:37.620 the top 10 like best public schools in the nation i'm going to flex and i'm like i did this i got to

01:29:42.620 where i'm at you have a family dope on you super cool but you know what but i pay for it if i can

01:29:47.760 say something to that i'll say that like okay so i was really sick in my 20s and i'll tell you what

01:29:52.580 was never there with me was my job and my education it was my family that got me through and when your

01:30:00.040 parents oh i could still have parents they're not when your parents are gone what will you have

01:30:04.340 well yeah i'm sorry but there's no wrong answer there's no wrong answer that's what you choose

01:30:10.060 and that's what it is what you choose i'm just saying that there may come a day like you're so

01:30:14.400 young right now and i'm just saying there may come a day when you are older when you realize like this

01:30:19.340 is wonderful and i'm so proud of myself for accomplishing this and for doing this but

01:30:23.160 but you're still going home to the same four walls alone every day after your friends leave

01:30:29.240 you can have a boyfriend right you'd be so you would pick your dream career over husband family 0.99

01:30:33.860 kids okay and just what uh do you have a sense of kind of what career you want to pursue um i want

01:30:40.040 to do kind of like this is so like vague but like in the realm of like law enforcement so you want to be

01:30:45.780 a law enforcement officer you want to be a cop i want to get i want to be i want to be higher in the

01:30:50.260 field but like what do you mean higher in the field i would you could say detective or detective level

01:30:55.220 why don't you have to start as a police officer yeah yeah you definitely have to start a police

01:30:59.640 officer and just raise my way but her goal her career that's cool that's a good are you comfortable

01:31:03.480 with shooting someone um yeah that's cool that was a cold-blooded yeah she's like sign me up

01:31:11.140 exactly okay so one question what if uh she didn't answer alexis well no we'll get one question for

01:31:21.960 you so let's say you met a very well-off man so i mean there's no there's never going to be

01:31:29.420 concerns over finances let's just say he makes like a million a year that's pretty good um with

01:31:34.640 that sort of lifestyle they provide you you never have to work day in your life you're the stay-at-home

01:31:39.260 wife take care of the kids have kids have the husband would that be a more appealing trade-off or 1.00

01:31:45.360 still even with that sort of lifestyle that a man who's making seven figures a year would you still

01:31:51.060 not take it then no because i i can make i can make a lot of money i can't probably not that much

01:31:56.720 in like law enforcement but i can make some money myself and like my mom she's a housewife and ask 1.00

01:32:02.180 you a question yeah if i if i could snap my fingers right now and give you five million dollars

01:32:09.620 10 yeah yeah we'll just say hold on wait yeah five million right now untaxed

01:32:15.840 but you're not allowed to ever pursue a career would you take it no so just to be clear you're

01:32:21.720 going to work but there's a there's a there's a reasoning behind it like tell us a little bit

01:32:26.040 about your background right like your your mom your dad that dynamic my siblings yeah my mom's a

01:32:32.260 housewife and i'm the first one here at college and i'm living my life and i love it and uh well

01:32:36.560 college is yeah no college is fun and i've done internships in law enforcement and i even loved it

01:32:41.200 even more and i like have connections at our home police station and like if i'm ready to do that i

01:32:45.680 have my foot in the door and i just think it's so dope to like be educated like so to be clear

01:32:50.340 if i could give you five million dollars right i wouldn't take it you wouldn't take it you'd rather

01:32:55.020 work how how you want to work until you're 60 yeah like until i'm 60 so you could you could just

01:33:01.560 you could retire at your what almost 19 you could travel see the world you could retire

01:33:08.880 never have to work a day in your life you could pursue any hobbies you want uh you wouldn't i look

01:33:17.080 i think uh being a police officer is a commendable job but i mean there's certain negative you know

01:33:23.480 you uh have to deal with annoying people it's it's stressful sometimes you can be in violent

01:33:28.340 situations you can be in life-threatening situations it can be a very stressful job yeah

01:33:32.540 police officer is probably one i can't think of a harder job than police officer try being a

01:33:38.720 critical care nurse well okay well i don't know stressful but i i would i'm not saying critical

01:33:44.840 care nurse is not stressful i'm saying police officers police officers psych patients that

01:33:50.820 are like i mean yeah okay but it depends on how much you want to shoot people and you want to

01:33:56.860 sedate people police officers literally deal with the bottom of society every single day they are in

01:34:03.260 their car sitting there every interaction they have was probably with somebody that's like

01:34:08.420 could have weapons yeah whatever and i know bottom of society like patients are dangerous but they're

01:34:13.640 the most stressful job in the world i like patients are very easily sedated you give them a shot

01:34:19.060 it's usually in the context of being a nurse okay okay who else is a nurse here

01:34:23.580 it's a little bit of howled a little bit of ben and drew a little bit of stop stop stop stop

01:34:30.260 all right so just to be clear are you saying that your job is like as stressful as a police officer

01:34:36.600 it's comparable comparable yeah so you're saying that in the psych what is it what was it the psych

01:34:42.180 you know in the in the er or in the critical care unit you're dealing with lower level society

01:34:49.040 homeless people drug addicts they have shanks they have needles dirty needles probably they i mean 1.00

01:34:54.980 perhaps they made contact with police officers first yeah maybe or they walked in the police officer

01:35:01.480 is like in their eyes the enemy they're the ones who have to grab them be like hey we are taking you

01:35:07.960 you guys like okay they're gonna be there but hey we're gonna help you no no that's not how it

01:35:13.960 goes down people are hallucinating people are violent i understand i've had police officers that

01:35:20.200 sit outside of the room while they let us handle the patient but the thing is that's not the only

01:35:24.980 type of patient you deal with as a critical care nurse so you're talking about like the vast majority

01:35:29.520 have you ever um i'm sure it's happens but it's probably far more rare um in the critical care unit

01:35:39.780 uh how frequently are you having to like dispatch the people that are freaking out like have you ever

01:35:48.400 after has anyone ever have to like shoot and kill a patient shoot and kill people grab them by their arms

01:35:55.520 yeah we don't like chem they have chemical restraint i'm making an argument here to point out

01:36:02.660 so that there as a nurse there's we don't have to shoot we do have to restrain people with leather

01:36:08.700 restraint but it's usually with a group of other nurses police officers have to encounter people

01:36:17.000 who are armed and have intention to kill them yeah and it's usually when they're one-on-one or like

01:36:23.800 nurses don't have weapons and the majority of nurses are females so for us to have men in the 1.00

01:36:30.740 industry is really huge who's more likely to encounter like some uh lethal force scenario a

01:36:38.440 nurse or police officer a police officer obviously because they're out in the streets i'm saying it's

01:36:42.980 comparable you guys are turning it into like this no it's yours is dangerous it is still dangerous 0.78

01:36:48.200 let's not minimize no no no no let's not minimize the risks that police officers absolutely and i

01:36:54.960 wasn't minimizing the way this conversation went down it's not comparable we were talking about

01:36:59.080 police officers how dangerous it is i said yeah that police officer i can't think of a harder

01:37:04.400 more stressful job and then a comment was made by you uh try being a critical care nurse yeah and i was

01:37:11.440 like okay yeah i'm not saying it's a it's not a stressful job dangerous not just stressful but

01:37:18.480 you said like try being critical care it's like why are we having this argument though that's the

01:37:23.500 thing i made a comment i know i know you guys went ham on it but that's fine no no no nobody's been in

01:37:30.420 my shoes and had to deal with like people in portland where illicit drugs are literally i can look i can

01:37:35.860 look at i can look at statistics for police officers self-deletion police officers have the highest rate

01:37:41.340 there are all of the negative side effects of having a job police officers will tend to have

01:37:47.660 the most negative effects so i can look at statistics not anecdotal evidence not hey in my

01:37:53.720 my experience as a critical care nurse it's really difficult i'm not saying it's not have you ever

01:38:00.240 looked at statistics for critical care nurses oh my gosh i'm just saying police officers lead it don't

01:38:05.760 call it anecdotal when there's actually anecdotal it's research we're not did not we are we are not we're not

01:38:11.320 saying that it's not hard it's not a i'm not saying it's oh it's an easy job it's just not the

01:38:16.340 i'm just saying police officer is harder i didn't claim stressful it is more i did not claim that it's

01:38:22.700 the same i said it was comparable it is comparable because it is unless you've been a nurse and you've

01:38:28.660 worked in the er or in the critical care unit something to that i have been because you're trying

01:38:33.440 to shut me down so we're having a disagreement and a dialogue that's what happens in a disagreement

01:38:37.420 i can say something i'm disagreeing on the fact that you're minimizing and saying it's a stressful

01:38:43.780 job yeah sure but it's not necessarily dangerous it is dangerous but it's just not as dangerous being

01:38:49.780 police officer i've been in a psych ward i've been an alcoholic i've been in homeless shelters i've been

01:38:55.920 in recovery i've seen the mental crises and i'm telling you right now it is not the same let me define

01:39:01.800 comparable or comparable of equivalent quality worthy of comparison so it's not clear to me

01:39:10.960 that being a critical care nurse is of equivalent risk or danger as being a police officer and that

01:39:21.660 doesn't say equivalent i use the word comparable comparable comparable yes but i just gave you the

01:39:26.660 definition you're saying it's like essentially an equivalent and it's absolutely not and it's not

01:39:31.580 and it's not and it's not saying that your job isn't dangerous it's not saying that you don't take

01:39:35.600 risks in your job but you are at less risk than a police officer who usually you are in a hospital

01:39:41.900 setting most of the time or in a clinical setting with many nurses many doctors around people who can

01:39:47.200 help you and come to your aid and your rescue i know i work in a health care situation i totally

01:39:51.900 understand that but i'm saying that i like i've seen the violent patients i've heard the codes called

01:39:57.560 but i'm telling you it happens less frequently and also not to the degree that police officers get and

01:40:04.780 i'll tell you i used to hate police officers when i was a far left person but i'm telling you their job

01:40:09.920 is one of the most dangerous jobs and and it's not to minimize you but it's not i didn't even it's not

01:40:15.740 even about me it's about in general but you said an er nurse or a critical care nurse that works in

01:40:21.000 the south side of chicago for example versus a police officer that works in beverly hills or

01:40:25.560 somewhere that's not a fair comparison do you get what i think there's like different statistics like

01:40:29.180 we're talking about different variables right how about we compare it can be comparable let's compare

01:40:34.160 a critical care nurse in the south side of chicago to a police officer in the south side of chicago

01:40:40.300 right i've seen they don't do much i made a simple comment that it's comp it can it's comparable yes we

01:40:46.560 realize nursing it's stressful it's difficult you're dealing with like you can be dealing with

01:40:51.660 violent patients we totally get it it's not comparable to a police officer it's i filed a

01:40:57.880 couple police reports in the south side of chicago i'll tell you one thing that nothing was done i'm

01:41:03.680 telling you they're not doing too much down there i am just saying as somebody who's filed at least

01:41:09.820 three of them nobody cares nobody nobody cares so then so then so then so then how do you are you

01:41:17.400 gonna say that you know what a police officer in the south side of chicago goes through or what

01:41:22.800 they're doing i don't think you're having the same conversation as any of us at any point in this

01:41:28.700 entire evening nothing you have said i don't think so it's a total non-secondary hold on stop i think

01:41:36.020 it's got plenty to do with what we're saying we're gonna did you answer the question or no

01:41:39.820 really quick coming back to you uh i know i don't believe donated two hundred dollars nick

01:41:46.440 we latinos on the chat had a vote please set up the mic number four to drunk latina mode

01:41:52.380 if that doesn't work have gus shoved the pointy side of his german hat down her vocal cords 1.00

01:41:58.200 afuera uh thank you doc vanablis um hold on so coming back to you really quick so i don't know

01:42:11.740 if you really answered no you did so if i snap my fingers give you five million dollars you'd still

01:42:16.560 get a career 50 50 years yeah 50 like you wouldn't you know have you been to hawaii

01:42:23.860 i haven't been to hawaii she lived in san diego what do you need to go to hawaii for san diego 0.97

01:42:28.640 san diego is like beautiful i'm just saying like i said i did an internship the police officers that

01:42:33.660 i've like done ride-alongs with or like the detective that um was supervising me he wasn't

01:42:38.560 in the office 24 7 if i gave you five million dollars i wouldn't take it and so over the course

01:42:45.140 of your career you might not even over 40 50 year career you might not even make that much over the

01:42:51.300 course of the career and if you get five million i have a house i'm chilling yeah but the thing is

01:42:55.000 especially in this area you will not be able to afford it on your own and this is another reason

01:42:59.220 why i think people should pair up because fiscally it's freaking can you afford it right now do you

01:43:04.280 have a house no god not by myself i have a i have an apartment and i and i that's kind of crazy

01:43:11.580 that's kind of crazy though that you wouldn't take i wouldn't five million i think i think there's a

01:43:15.680 lot of like family dynamics and maybe like history like i i'm not gonna like say but for me

01:43:21.140 for example seeing my mom i'm also first generation let's call up your mom right now yo mom this dude 0.92

01:43:26.240 on this podcast just offered me five million take the fucking money yeah five mil or i could just 1.00

01:43:32.540 go ahead and be a housewife you an idiot but a strong-willed like first generation first college 1.00

01:43:38.520 educated like immigrants it's super important to have that autonomy because we saw our parents 1.00

01:43:43.660 you don't think five million dollars no i didn't say that but i'm saying she's still young like

01:43:51.320 she's still she's still figuring out life right i'll fix her but you have a deeper sense of purpose

01:43:56.440 using that yeah moving on what's your answer to the uh question my answer would be housewife i uh

01:44:02.620 got my college education i have my own business and i could have a thousand could have a thousand

01:44:09.520 percent still be doing what i'm doing and having a successful business without going to college

01:44:13.680 yeah um but that being said there are plenty of career paths that you need to do that

01:44:19.780 mine sure in particular i didn't um but yeah i i think that being a housewife would be great

01:44:27.500 that would a thousand percent be my option mason would you be a housewife 1.00

01:44:30.820 yeah if i were a woman i would definitely be a housewife there you go we're gonna yeah guys go to

01:44:38.080 twitch.tv slash whatever drops follow drops the prime sub if you have one twitch.tv slash whatever

01:44:43.860 in the chat and um guys get us to 70 000 followers if you can guys we're so close we're so close

01:44:50.700 i'm gonna read a couple chats here we have uh actually alissa can i have you read these yeah um

01:44:58.400 can the blonde please explain domestic terrorism does she know who timothy how do you say that

01:45:05.760 mcveigh is a quick answer if you can go ahead domestic terrorism is when you are arguing with

01:45:12.600 someone and it's a hostile environment one person it's usually intimate partner tries to leave the

01:45:18.100 room or leave the conversation the other person is very hostile and following them around to argue

01:45:23.880 and escalate the conversation i do not know timothy mcveigh no okay and then we have usmc

01:45:31.760 usmc text and hey thank you man appreciate it alissa if you can read it teacher appreciation week

01:45:38.400 nurse appreciation week female domesticated jobs always say they are in the hardest and reach for 1.00

01:45:44.040 the most sympathy where's mechanic appreciation week sympathy leverage control yes that's okay

01:45:51.540 and then we have woke go broke thank you man go ahead alissa combat warm zone infantry or er nurse

01:46:00.340 please explain also can the blonde oh wait is that the same one no you can read it is the blonde 1.00

01:46:05.160 can the blonde in the red dress please tell me who timothy mcveigh is i don't think you don't know

01:46:10.440 who timothy it's orange but i don't know who timothy mcveigh is i'll probably i feel like he probably

01:46:14.180 killed his entire family yes something i can't remember but so combat war zone infantry or er nurse

01:46:22.120 which is more stressful combat war zone absolutely okay yeah okay 100 woke go broke that is the

01:46:33.280 question uh hold on let me see where we're at here in our notes we went around on that we got everybody's

01:46:40.640 relationship status oh i wanted to ask um uh i i heard something recently about how women who are on 0.93

01:46:48.860 birth control it can impact the type of men they're attracted to like women who are on birth control

01:46:53.780 will be more attracted to men who display a bit more feminine characteristics whereas women who are 0.99

01:46:59.580 not on birth control tend to prioritize uh uh more masculine characteristics in a partner uh so just

01:47:06.640 going around the table like is anybody here on birth control starting with you no i'm not ever ever

01:47:11.820 been no uh i was on birth control for a very long time like i think close to 10 years um i've been off

01:47:17.920 it for about two years i think my mental health improved a lot after i got off it yeah i'm i would

01:47:25.420 agree i've been on birth control and not being on birth control is definitely a very different lifestyle

01:47:31.040 better um i've never been on birth control if somebody asks i do lie and i say yes oh great

01:47:37.800 wait what you lied to the men to say that you're on it yes i have so that he could get you pregnant 0.87

01:47:45.800 right wow but i thought you said you wanted to yeah you said you wanted to drown your kids right so 0.99

01:47:54.340 you know i have oscillating feelings towards these things sometimes i'm hot sometimes i'm cold it

01:47:59.080 depends on what about you um i was on it for a little bit and i like never been someone who was

01:48:04.980 like a depressed person but after i got on it like i went through like a spiral yeah it's like

01:48:09.360 definitely so that i stopped never been on it um i was on it in high school early college but i

01:48:15.940 haven't been on it in years all right rock and roll we got everybody's answers here we are going

01:48:20.640 to go around the table stifler is asking a question here ask the ladies to rate their looks 1.00

01:48:24.620 on the scale of one to ten starting with you go ahead um i would go with six i would say like

01:48:33.300 maybe a five yeah six there's no right answer there's no right answer to this question either

01:48:39.980 people are going to say you're going too low or you're going too high i mean there's like the same

01:48:44.320 thing with body count there's just no right answers to that question it's either it's it's just

01:48:49.160 i think there is so that's all i'll say yeah i'll just say six i'll say seven yeah i was gonna say

01:48:56.080 seven uh seven and a half oh it was he only wanted the ladies to answer but i will answer

01:49:01.500 i give myself like five five um brian would you rate us uh oh yeah i know they ask you sometimes i'm

01:49:11.280 curious i'll only rate you on each individually if you are okay with me rating you if you don't want

01:49:18.860 me to rate you i won't do it but if you're like go for it brian i don't yeah go for it brian i think

01:49:22.140 so it'll hurt my feelings but so i'll just first i'll just ask if you want to just all if you want

01:49:27.860 a rating okay are you sure yes or no you need consent you don't want it you can say no

01:49:35.000 yeah yeah it's fine oh yeah sure fine yes sure have at it yeah lord i'm cool yep okay and just

01:49:45.560 before i go just remind me what you gave yourself what your rating was oh before or after let's get

01:49:52.420 a sincere answer from you yeah that's true you already you already gave your answers i just

01:49:58.000 forgot all of them okay we'll tell you it's authentic um okay i think uh let's see starting with you

01:50:05.180 hold on let me it should it didn't have to take that long no you got to make an assessment here

01:50:14.440 yeah oh i shouldn't have asked this question guys uh like uh it was looks i want to say like a solid

01:50:22.560 like 7.5 yeah i was solid 7.5 uh you it's okay it's okay you're pretty you know you used to be

01:50:35.880 when you're when you're more confident people like you more it's okay i would i i think you wanted you

01:50:42.820 asked this so yeah just be honest yeah okay i'll give you a 4.5 okay thank you five yeah good lord

01:50:50.200 thank you hey i rated myself the same thing so it doesn't hurt my feelings it's fine i'm trying

01:50:54.540 to be concerned also you know there's the age yes of course weight all that yeah but don't be so hard

01:51:00.720 on yourself i'm not being honest like 5.5 six uh i disagree with what i disagree with what you say

01:51:11.360 yeah i disagree 4.5 whatever you said i disagree and you're welcome to it uh six

01:51:19.300 i didn't need a rating i think she's like you did i thought you said yes yeah i'm chilling like

01:51:25.220 i'm oh now you don't want it no i said i i said i'm chilling like i'm chilling as an oh you don't

01:51:29.760 know oh okay

01:51:30.820 you said yes i was fine okay you're fine with it and then uh five okay yeah all right let's go

01:51:42.500 but guess what we're tens to all the men that i would have i would have to say that many people

01:51:47.260 disagree with the blassie rating i think that's all i'll have to say listen there's people who

01:51:52.440 disagree yeah i know there's people who will disagree with me rating myself that they may

01:51:56.960 think i'm lower they may think i'm higher but i'm honest enough to say that i used to be

01:52:02.540 a lot different listen hon don't be so hard on yourself i'm not because if you if you if you

01:52:07.380 if you display a lot of confidence in yourself and how you look then people then then no because

01:52:12.780 you said you're like a four or something like that but no no no no but i'm saying like if you

01:52:16.940 confident doesn't mean you rate yourself something way above what you actually are being

01:52:21.240 confident means who you are no no no if you say things then people will start to believe them

01:52:28.200 i'm just saying people will start myself as a five i love myself as a five okay so you you should

01:52:34.220 be able to give yourself an honest assessment of how i look like okay are there things i can do to

01:52:40.420 change that yeah so and i know for me like when i was in high school junior high i wasn't a very good

01:52:46.800 looking dude so i started getting into the gym and i really invested myself into that because i knew

01:52:53.000 i saw guys who didn't go to the gym and then they turned 30 and yes it's like i don't want to look

01:52:59.620 like that well and then i look at guys who consistently in the gym like natural guys who

01:53:04.700 you know i'm not going for the crazy i'm not i'm not going to shoot up and become a bodybuilder

01:53:10.540 if you do that i guess more power you more power to you but well i wouldn't suggest it if i can share

01:53:16.800 it so for me i was always very very thin i definitely people would have rated me higher i've

01:53:22.860 had people say what happened to you well alcoholism happened to me um however since i've gotten sober i

01:53:28.960 lost like 50 pounds last year it's something i'm currently working on so you know what maybe i'll

01:53:34.200 be a five right now maybe a few months from now i'll be a six a seven you know who knows

01:53:38.980 you can be honest about who you are and where you're at and you should be and you should love

01:53:45.920 yourself where you are because the problem is and i agree with the men here and red pill logic when

01:53:50.020 they say women are rating themselves way above what they actually are and shooting for people 1.00

01:53:55.160 who are like way beyond what they can normally get and and it's causing them to not be realistic

01:54:00.420 in relationships i think that's a blanket statement i don't agree with either it's not women i think 0.97

01:54:05.260 some women not all women no but but in general in general terms when you're going off the dating apps

01:54:11.100 and social media etc there is a tendency in women to have an over inflated sense of self when they're 1.00

01:54:19.380 at their in their prime and i'll tell you for me social media gave me access to men that i would

01:54:26.060 not normally ever be able to get and my body in my 20s and all of that and i had nothing to really

01:54:32.400 offer them i had an over inflated sense of self and i see it all the time in young women and then

01:54:36.980 what happens you hit my age and reality hits and then you've really got to like be honest with yourself

01:54:42.800 about where you're at yeah i think there's like this natural like system that falls into place and when i was

01:54:48.420 in college one of my classes we did this exercise basically you got a number you need to put it on

01:54:53.280 your forehead and you need to walk around and like try to get the highest number that you could and it

01:54:59.160 was so interesting because you didn't know what you were necessarily but you had to go based off what

01:55:02.820 other people did and by the end of it all of us were naturally paired to like a number just below

01:55:08.240 or just above us because you're like okay i walk up to a 10 and i'm like can we pair and they're like

01:55:12.900 no what is that based what was it based on like your look just look no it was the number just the

01:55:18.000 number it was like the objective metric of hey i want a high number with me yeah oh so i'm just

01:55:23.740 saying that naturally so that's actually speaking naturally you will pair off with someone that's

01:55:29.720 i think yeah naturally speaking it's equitable and looks and all the other departments i think

01:55:34.560 that's just kind of naturally what humans do whether we want to acknowledge it or not

01:55:39.400 we judge ourselves based on how other people see us oh of course we do so one that puts emphasis

01:55:45.260 on who we surround ourselves with so i'm going to surround myself with men who are really intense

01:55:52.300 upon making me a better man they're gonna be there to tell me hey mason you're getting you're letting

01:55:57.760 go of yourself get it back to get it together get into the gym do your thing or hey i'm slacking off

01:56:04.340 at work hey mason what are you doing you you want to provide for a family not gonna be able to do

01:56:09.220 that if you're doing this yeah it's like those are the guys i want to surround surround myself

01:56:13.760 with so i surround myself with high value people and that's wonderful but i think the reality is

01:56:18.300 most people are not doing that yeah well it's because they do not have their values set they are

01:56:22.680 not surrounding themselves with good influences they live in this world where they think i deserve

01:56:27.680 everything because i am incredible yes yes you have value but no but you need to live in reality

01:56:35.000 i do think you can increase the value you can increase your ranking or whatever i can say

01:56:40.340 maybe i look the way i look and i'm not the hottest thing in the world anymore or ever was but i would

01:56:46.940 say see this is the one thing i do disagree with the podcast or red pill about is that women maybe 1.00

01:56:52.140 their beauty is not what it was as they get older however what i have grown and my personality and my

01:56:58.920 ability to love and give and be kind and caring and nurturing and generous that has only grown with

01:57:04.760 age and my wisdom that i've attained from it so i think it looks wise value sure you know it's where

01:57:10.500 it's at but there's more inherent value that can grow in you as you age um but i i think the reality

01:57:16.660 is most people are just not i don't think i don't think we would disagree with that statement yeah

01:57:21.460 no but it's we want uh we as men we put a uh higher value on somebody who is younger because

01:57:32.060 there are multiple factors oh i know they're able to give you a family well so it's family but it's

01:57:37.040 also um there's a lot less baggage that will probably just by a number of years okay someone who is 20

01:57:45.860 years old is probably gonna have less baggage than someone who is 35 40 of course generally

01:57:51.240 speaking you can make that assumption yeah they'll also have a lot less wisdom yeah that's a lot

01:57:55.840 less conflict resolution that's not necessarily true well i think okay i mean life experience begs

01:58:00.800 begs to differ but i'll say the majority of people who have baggage do not do the work on themselves to

01:58:06.140 actually get to a point so that that comes into play with how you see yourself i think this activity

01:58:12.260 rating yourself on one to ten yeah it's a really good microcosm to figure out how you are thinking are

01:58:17.540 evaluating yourself being realistic so it's okay am i gonna keep myself accountable so it's it's

01:58:24.380 asking yourself the question so in a relationship what are the things i need to work on yeah because

01:58:28.400 my partner is identifying these things hey you're really combative you're subverting leadership you

01:58:36.300 are undercutting me at every corner it's those things when you can step back and objectively measure

01:58:44.680 yourself and say okay i'm a six yeah but then you can also step back and say hey there are these

01:58:51.640 things in this relationship that i'm not very good at i need to work on yeah and hey i want my partner

01:58:57.280 to help me tackle that well and someone who can't objectively say i'm a six is probably not going to be

01:59:05.960 able to take that bigger leap and say i have this personality yes characteristic that is undesirable well

01:59:12.660 what i'll say for me like being in recovery the one thing that i'm so grateful for is that you do a lot

01:59:18.780 of work on yourself about your character flaws and all the things that led you there um so working on

01:59:25.460 those things like when i was in my 20s my mid-20s and i was flying here and there with this guy that guy

01:59:32.280 whatever i was doing like an idiot um i didn't value myself very much in a sense but i did overvalue 0.65

01:59:38.760 myself and i really looked at what i could get from relationships whereas now in my 30s i focus so 0.95

01:59:46.820 much more on what i have to give someone um than what i can actually get out of it so i feel like

01:59:51.580 it is possible like you were saying to do the work on yourself to to turn your baggage into wisdom and

01:59:57.540 learned experience but i think a lot of people are not doing that i think every man wants a beautiful

02:00:03.140 mid to call his own what okay okay anyway no i think there's a combination of like the bystander

02:00:10.360 effect where people are not really like actively proactively giving feedback to people in their

02:00:15.820 circle and being like hey yeah your your sets have been shit this week okay i'm just letting you know 0.83

02:00:21.260 we go to the gym at the same time and you're slacking or you're super gassed what are you doing with 0.96

02:00:25.180 your nutrition but there's also a difference between like being entitled versus being empowered

02:00:30.120 and people are getting that confused and they're just going through the route of like i'm going to

02:00:35.780 be entitled because i look a certain way because i get a certain number of likes because i have

02:00:39.940 hacked the algorithm or whatever you know and i would generally you generally see that not with men

02:00:48.200 you see that with women more often than not yeah i'm not saying that's good bad i think it's backlash

02:00:55.020 from like insecurity yeah women are much less secure than men in general in looks department because 1.00

02:01:01.540 men know there's a saying in romanian he can be a little bit cuter than the devil and that's like 0.99

02:01:07.680 the rough translation which basically translates to women care more about like it's the psychology

02:01:13.800 behind it this financial stability also the emotional stability is he a safe person does he want to

02:01:20.420 provide and like create the house where i can be safe and be in my feminine energy and things like 1.00

02:01:25.480 that women put a lot more on that whereas men are i mean biologically wired to look at looks i are her 0.97

02:01:33.720 hips of childbearing every proportions you know does she look healthy is her skin clear isn't it 1.00

02:01:40.100 accurate that women are much more picky when it comes to looks than men i think that's a 0.91

02:01:44.840 yeah oh 100 that must be a modern thing a modern dating thing exactly no it's not a modern thing

02:01:51.340 because for like for centuries for eons and eons like men have chased that um sexual urge that's

02:01:58.580 their natural biological instinct so yeah i i i just i don't think that's like a modern take on it i

02:02:05.240 don't know they're saying the opposite they're saying that women are more no women are more picky but

02:02:09.900 that's why i'm saying they're more picky when it comes to looks yes and men are not because men are

02:02:14.440 men are pursuing yeah the sex and they just yeah well i think men have a specific hormone pumping

02:02:20.720 through their body that makes them not care nearly as much exactly sorry i was shouting there also

02:02:24.980 speaking i think it came up earlier on in the conversation speaking of you know you're mentioning

02:02:30.820 how women have these like insane standards that they have to you know beauty standards etc yeah and i 1.00

02:02:37.660 was actually you know little devil's advocate here i can actually make a very compelling argument

02:02:41.940 that the corresponding male beauty standards are actually you know if we're talking about the uh

02:02:48.960 shoot there's a specific word for it that's evading me right now but the uh male beauty standards are

02:02:54.720 actually far more difficult to attain and achieve than i would agree with that because for a lot of

02:03:01.660 anybody disagree disagree disagree i want to hear your i disagree honestly i disagree okay you because

02:03:08.060 the man is you don't have to be that hot well let me just have that you have to have charisma you have

02:03:11.920 to have you know well yes men can make up for their deficiencies in perhaps certain ways that women

02:03:18.680 can't but when it comes strictly to physical appearance if we're if we are talking about physical

02:03:25.100 attraction uh most women rate i think the the study or the statistics on this are uh most women rate

02:03:33.460 like 80 of men as unattractive and like this is evidence but why though yeah so what that's why i

02:03:41.060 said i disagree because i feel like the com the comparable to like apples to apples whereas you know

02:03:47.520 for for women it's the looks but for men i feel like the heightened you know expectation in society is

02:03:53.920 like they've got to make at least six figures and they've got to have a house and they've got to do

02:03:58.400 this and they need to pay all of our bills and my money is my money and his money is our money and

02:04:02.720 like i think that's maybe where i would agree more with like the unrealistic expectations and standards

02:04:08.620 in today's society but not necessarily in looks i think for like women though we can easily go to 1.00

02:04:13.240 like a salon or whatever and get our nails done our makeup done our hair done we can change a lot

02:04:18.240 about ourselves we have all these options but like men can't grow taller men can't you know

02:04:23.300 a haircut makes a big difference yeah have you ever seen a man have tattooed like hair on his

02:04:28.160 bald head like they're doing stuff too there are barbershops that do that but i would say it is

02:04:33.040 probably harder for men to attain those standards however i will say a lot of men just kind of don't

02:04:38.740 put in like i put in a lot of effing effort you know maybe some men don't like the effort i put in

02:04:44.080 but i put in a lot of effort to like look presentable a lot of men just kind of show up

02:04:48.300 and i feel like that's not true though i don't i don't agree with that i don't know i don't know

02:04:52.620 if maybe it's in canada because i'm looking through the the apps and on the street and i'm just like

02:04:57.640 i feel like i'm doing a lot okay but my counter to that would be well what are all the things that

02:05:03.360 men need to do in order to be attractive to women like he has to work on he could have to work on

02:05:09.480 himself for years whereas you say oh well i got to spend the next 30 minutes in front of the 0.95

02:05:14.500 fucking mirror no i think if a guy's funny it goes a long way i totally agree like like i say this 0.92

02:05:22.820 but yeah but in a sense for me like what i would like in a guy i just want him to to to maybe take 0.98

02:05:29.140 care of himself in the sense that he's like well groomed um i don't care so much about his height i

02:05:34.580 don't care so much about his weight like i'm not picky i want a man who's relatively average even in

02:05:40.680 his income i just prefer someone above average attitude above average that's all i'm looking for

02:05:46.820 someone with a great attitude and so i'm saying like there are women out there who prefer that 0.99

02:05:51.260 it's not like we're like you've got to do xyz but a lot of right but i'm not really interested

02:05:55.340 in speaking about outliers yeah i know it is an outlier that's true it is true but i'm just saying

02:06:00.500 i'd rather speak in generalities because i could talk we could have a conversation about well what are

02:06:06.020 the dating what's the dating meta of like you know if you're if you have dwarfism yeah we could talk

02:06:12.680 about it um i just don't think yeah it's really productive to have a well what if you're a dwarf

02:06:17.720 yeah well i just i guess i just don't because i feel like a lot of people who consume this content

02:06:25.420 and it is very like intriguing and insightful but i feel like sometimes it's it's so maybe it's real

02:06:32.580 but it's very negative and i just i don't want people to feel like there's not how's it negative

02:06:36.680 because it may be truthful but i just feel like when you consume content that just constantly tells

02:06:41.760 you that like women are all after your money essentially and men can never do enough to 1.00

02:06:45.560 please the women no but but it's when you're saying that like you know there's men have to do way more

02:06:51.680 to impress a woman and all these things that's factually true generally it's factually true i'm

02:06:56.720 saying the reason i said it is because it's not always true and i know you hate the outliers but i just

02:07:01.540 want people to know there is hope out there so okay if i can concede that it's not always true

02:07:06.060 yeah can you concede that it's generally true 100 yes 100 so i guess i just wasted your time i forgot

02:07:11.880 what the question yeah i was just like what was your what was your original thought one time i

02:07:16.940 one time i watched dwarf porn and i felt really bad afterwards thank you for sharing that thank you

02:07:23.100 so what was the original thought well my position was that even speaking strictly when it comes to

02:07:28.820 physical appearance i actually think there are far more stringent uh beauty uh i don't beauty

02:07:35.960 is not the perfect word but beauty let's just physical attraction there's there's far more

02:07:40.380 stringent beauty standards on men than the reverse for example here's one example and we can actually

02:07:44.940 show you a couple things but i would argue that when it comes to body fat percentage which is just

02:07:49.320 one metric that people typically use for finding somebody attractive i would say that the acceptable body

02:07:54.980 fat percentage range in terms of body types that men will find attractive versus the reverse

02:08:00.720 it's much more wider in women so women can why women can fall within a much greater diversity when it 1.00

02:08:09.320 comes to body fat like a man will can like a woman with a low body fat percentage you know thin 1.00

02:08:14.880 athletic boom boom boom all the way to like thick actually most men don't like women with low body fat 0.99

02:08:21.160 because they feel like it looks too masculine even well okay and then when i say yeah healthy

02:08:25.860 we're just saying the range yeah healthy range i think that i i mean just anatomically like if you

02:08:32.000 learned anything about like anatomy and physiology women naturally inherently have hover around a 20 to 1.00

02:08:38.680 30 percent body fat range that's just naturally where we are especially as we age men only super 0.96

02:08:45.040 athletes are like six percent body fat so the average is somewhere closer to like six you know

02:08:50.400 10 to 16 percent but it it displaces and it places differently on men than on women because women 1.00

02:08:57.280 are childbearing we have like fat cells that are there for storage for like you know whenever you're 0.98

02:09:03.800 breastfeeding and you're having a baby and your body's preparing for that so it's just a different

02:09:07.880 i think just a different composition is what it is not just numbers sorry i but i think the reason

02:09:13.640 that like men have maybe a wider range of what they will go for is because men are looking for

02:09:19.240 something that women are looking for something different the men are are usually looking for

02:09:24.100 a sex partner even subconsciously they're being driven by their natural biological urges which is

02:09:29.820 driven by attraction and sex so they're which is why why do they want sex biologically because they

02:09:35.660 were born that way because they want to procreate yes exactly that's the natural biological wiring but

02:09:41.620 that's why i'm saying that like men will have a wider range of what they will find physically

02:09:45.100 acceptable because they have an urge to procreate so they're going to take maybe women also have an 1.00

02:09:51.520 urge to procreate oh yeah they do but i'm but i'm saying that it's uh women are less driven by sex 1.00

02:09:56.360 and attraction so they're more so looking for like generally um a relationship or that kind of thing

02:10:02.480 so i just think that's why women are looking for something a little bit different like they're they're 0.99

02:10:07.500 more specific about what they want whereas men are like i don't actually think that that's even true

02:10:12.280 i think what ends up happening uh are you familiar i'm assuming that since you've seen the show you're

02:10:17.720 familiar familiar with the term hypergamy yes so here's what i think ends up happening it's not that

02:10:22.660 there's a lack of men that are not willing to commit to women here's what i think the major thing is

02:10:29.480 is that and this relates to your position on promiscuity how you think that well actually promiscuity

02:10:36.200 like the promiscuity in women is actually kind of men men are you know to sort to blame basically no

02:10:42.560 no no that's not at all what i said okay well we can get into that later but but when it comes to

02:10:47.220 hypergamy so what ends up happening is there are plenty of men that are willing to be in relationships

02:10:51.160 with women however they tend to be they're mostly entirely invisible to women they're overlooked because

02:10:56.940 women are hyper focusing on the most attractive men the most attractive men the most desirable men get 1.00

02:11:04.260 all the attention yeah all the attention and these men have no mo there's no reason they really have 0.99

02:11:10.360 very minimal substance there's no reason for them to commit they can get all the women and but the 0.97

02:11:16.260 women want those men for commitment but they're not going to commit yes i totally agree with you i on 1.00

02:11:20.840 that i understand that it's the flip side is true as well it is true because i mean i had men when i was

02:11:26.920 flip side is also true what's true men men will also seek out like the instagram fitness model body

02:11:34.240 type and whatnot a lot of them i'm not i'm not throwing blanket statements but that's the general

02:11:38.500 we're talking generalities generally speaking men have told me oh i don't like plastic surgery 0.91

02:11:44.320 fake tits are great when they're covered but not when they're uncovered and i'm like okay then why are 1.00

02:11:49.200 you so attracted to exactly women that have triple d's i don't think the argument that brian's trying 0.99

02:11:54.180 to make is uh men don't find super attractive women super attractive no but that they flock 0.88

02:12:00.660 no no they flock just like he's saying what he's saying is that attractive men what he's saying is

02:12:06.140 that a most women will only seek relationship from a higher tier of man so like like attractiveness 1.00

02:12:15.260 uh wealth so like athlete uh celebrity actor something like why shouldn't women be in charge of who 1.00

02:12:22.860 gets to procreate why why shouldn't women be be in charge of who gets trying to make an argument 1.00

02:12:28.420 you know i i understand you want to butt in but just let me finish what well that's the whole point

02:12:33.760 of the thing everybody no no no no okay go ahead no just let me finish so but men conversely yeah we

02:12:41.020 will recognize that super attractive women are super attractive but we are going to be willing to 1.00

02:12:47.080 find release find relationships with people who are on our level or sometimes below i would agree

02:12:55.000 with that that's we're much more yeah we have a higher proclivity to do so i think with time and

02:13:01.080 with age that changes for women i think like this whole thing when you're younger yeah like i i totally

02:13:08.440 agree there's like this whole like and it goes back to life experience like your life experience is

02:13:14.100 a little you know younger men or boys they're pumped with testosterone they really don't care

02:13:19.940 like they just you know they see a cute girl like they want to talk to her whatever right but as you

02:13:24.480 get older like i actually as i was gaining i felt really naive and i actually had a question for you

02:13:30.320 because i wondered if you if you feel at all sometimes when you go out on the dating scene

02:13:35.520 more naive than maybe like other people that have just had like free reign in dating to just like go

02:13:42.240 explore self-discovery like experience learn through fails walking in walls things like that

02:13:48.920 like i found myself pretty naive with like oh these men look attractive and then and then you know the

02:13:55.420 natural inclination is well i want the abercrombie and fitch looking guy right but then you start

02:14:00.280 realizing that literally i i started actually not engaging with the men that look like gym rats or that

02:14:08.440 they're obsessive with like you know the gym because they're not going to give the quality of

02:14:13.060 relationship and emotional connection that someone that doesn't dedicate all of their time to physical

02:14:18.020 aspects but that comes with time and like life experience so i to answer that question uh i'm i think i

02:14:26.460 came to that realization without having to go through the hard experience i think i'm a rare bird when it

02:14:33.700 comes to that i think you can come to that realization i i'm going to give credit where credit

02:14:40.060 is due with my parents uh they they taught me from their own experience sounds like they were really

02:14:46.880 transparent with you which is also something that's not so super common they were transparent with the

02:14:51.780 lessons they learned and uh kind of where those came from but my dad uh i don't really know what

02:14:59.660 went on between the ages of like 18 to 30 because he doesn't want you to know well yeah well he doesn't

02:15:06.140 want to give you any bad ideas like you turned out so it's bad ideas yeah exactly but uh all i know it

02:15:12.060 was uh it was not very good but all of the lessons that they taught me uh by their own example like

02:15:20.120 own marriage uh i saw how they interacted with each other i thought it was incredible that's kind of

02:15:25.420 where i learned all that stuff from so i don't really think it's necessary to go through uh the

02:15:31.360 experience i think the experience will generally bring baggage and baggage means more problems and

02:15:37.200 i didn't ask if it was necessary i asked do you sometimes feel more naive on the dating scene

02:15:42.780 especially like do you ever feel like man i was really duped like it's happened of course because

02:15:48.860 like first you really give someone the benefit of the doubt and then you're like yeah they that was

02:15:53.340 i should have probably less likely to do that if you have the right values to begin with like you

02:15:59.120 are less likely to fall for those scenarios no this is such a non-sequitur like i appreciate the

02:16:04.940 question but you've totally derailed the conversation that was actually in hand how did we go from you

02:16:10.360 love to talk about non-sequiturs what i did want to say about the original conversation is this

02:16:15.460 i will agree that when i was younger i did overlook good men because i was chasing something that was

02:16:23.240 seemed better and not just in terms of um appearance but in terms of what they could

02:16:27.860 offer me i'm not talking finance i've never asked for people to like spend their money on me but they

02:16:32.560 could give like a better access to a better life in a sense and so i certainly overlooked good men to

02:16:39.420 pursue something that probably was way above what i could qualify for those men were dating down

02:16:45.200 i think they had um they had looser standards than i had i had higher standards and i was certainly

02:16:51.180 trying to like date above what i was probably qualified for and i'm sure i have missed many

02:16:56.400 good men or at least a few good men along the way so it certainly does happen and it's a regret that

02:17:02.100 i have and i i do wish people would stop putting like materialism and attraction is like the number

02:17:09.140 one thing to chase after because there's plenty of good people around us we just don't see them

02:17:14.380 because we don't value them or what they bring to the table so i agree with what you're saying

02:17:18.180 i know guys in particular is the guy that goes to my church i'm not going to name them but

02:17:22.000 uh he's not very he's not very talkative he's very introverted he's an incredibly smart man he has a

02:17:29.680 very good job he's kind of like to himself uh he's manly dude but no girl will talk to him because

02:17:36.980 he's not super charismatic he's not super like he doesn't make uh it takes longer to get to know

02:17:45.220 him he's an incredible guy but it takes investment to get to that point where you realize oh geez this

02:17:53.200 guy has some serious depth he is a high quality dude he's he's easy to talk to but it's like you

02:18:00.640 have to get to that stage instead of clouding your clouding your judgment with oh he makes me feel

02:18:08.060 really good right now eventually the feelings are going to go away they'll dissolve and i think that's

02:18:14.040 something that's a problem with most dating relationships but it is most of those guys

02:18:19.580 those super high quality guys might not have all of those flashy attributes but i think that happens

02:18:30.360 naturally as a woman gets older yeah because it could be experienced but it also hold on i'm sorry

02:18:35.700 we're going to redirect can you put this amount of work required to look good uh women nothing just 1.00

02:18:42.580 don't eat like a fucking hippo every single day men years of hard work at the gym many times a week 0.97

02:18:48.260 and a strict diet with enough proteins and little fats and sugars okay i first off i like to try to 0.99

02:18:53.520 be charitable i do think that this isn't a perfect comparison like the woman granted the woman on the

02:18:59.580 left i would argue like the vast majority of men would find her body type attractive uh whereas 1.00

02:19:08.860 i mean maybe a more fair comparison the woman should have been a bit more fit but like you can't be 1.00

02:19:16.680 fit if you don't eat though that's more of like anorexic looking which would align with like not

02:19:21.500 you think that's true what do you mean what's true like do you the photo the what are you disagreeing

02:19:30.180 with do you think that it's easier for women to have a more attractive physique than it is 100% 0.99

02:19:37.640 100% what for a woman to have let's just talk body let's remove face from this yeah yes absolutely 0.99

02:19:44.800 for a woman to have a body which is deemed attractive by the vast majority of men

02:19:49.300 okay can i ask you you need not ever even exercise or step foot in the gym it helps but it's never

02:19:57.900 necessary now a man who has absolutely no muscular development how do you know this have you been

02:20:03.020 in a woman's body oh jeez god yeah he was born as he was conceived i haven't seen he has been in a

02:20:09.960 woman's body i don't know if that's a great argument yeah in a different context but i mean this is just 0.57

02:20:15.120 like a it's a it's a dumb comment so i'm gonna yeah that's fair that's right yeah but uh yeah like i

02:20:21.280 mean okay we can just look at it from the perspective of like who are the casting in superhero roles

02:20:26.280 like if we're talking about beauty standards we'd look to media okay the women in media versus the 1.00

02:20:32.260 men in media so if we look at superhero roles if we look at uh wonder woman and scarlett johansson 0.99

02:20:38.020 she's i don't know who the fuck she plays but i don't really watch that kind of shit but you look 0.98

02:20:42.260 at their body types and compare it to their male hold on but you compare it to their the male leading 1.00

02:20:48.440 uh actor celebrity these males are like they have to treat the gym like a full-time job some of them

02:20:55.900 a lot of them take steroids to achieve the beauty standard however what i will as women need not 0.92

02:21:03.760 take steroids but the women do too like you're talking about wonder woman you're talking about 1.00

02:21:07.960 black widow scarlett johansson they're all working out you have to like literally hit protein goals

02:21:13.720 as a woman too and metabolically your hormones really get in the way this goes back to your 1.00

02:21:18.040 thing with the well the nurse versus the cop it's not saying it's easy no but you're saying

02:21:23.260 easy but you did say that you said that it's easier for women but it's not because metabolically 1.00

02:21:29.560 it's not we are prone to adding more fat to our bodies through our hormones to bear children this

02:21:35.480 is why i wanted to ask men have more testosterone naturally in their metabolism which burns fat

02:21:41.420 this is still harder to achieve the ideal idealized because you're because you put up a you put up a

02:21:49.700 picture of like six packs and whatever but then you put a woman that has like basically no muscular 1.00

02:21:54.360 definition right but if i go to the gym and i want muscular definition i have to hit protein goals and

02:22:00.780 go to the gym just as much if not more we will be more charitable with the photos then that i i will

02:22:06.480 i will grant you reasonable i will grant you that the the comparison from the meme although it is

02:22:11.560 trying to sort of articulate the point i actually think it's true the photos used are not the ideal

02:22:17.820 uh most ideal but we do have some other photos that we can pull up so nick go into the dropbox

02:22:22.700 folder go into the beauty standards folder we're gonna do uh let's see we'll do some of the

02:22:30.940 superheroes so pull up why don't you pull up uh there's pull up wonder woman she's got massive 1.00

02:22:37.080 thighs she has to work out for those like she like wonder woman has yeah she has like what's 1.00

02:22:43.320 her name she's gal gadot has massive thighs no i'm not saying like when i say massive i'm not saying 1.00

02:22:50.080 like fat or what i'm saying she has muscle nick don't even drag it over we're just gonna look at 1.00

02:22:55.360 all of them so click the first one and we're gonna view it in the uh photo viewer does that make sense

02:23:00.100 we'll just and then i think you can use the mouse buttons to like sort through them

02:23:05.300 yeah yeah yeah uh okay we'll we'll just gonna go through all of them and can you just double

02:23:14.700 check that you're able to mouse through them or not mouse uh arrow on the keyboard

02:23:21.040 we'll get it okay and then but then get the men ready to go right after and then we'll do thin men

02:23:29.180 thin woman comparison okay so let me know when you have that while you do that let me i don't have any 1.00

02:23:35.480 chat so we're good on that for front um hold on what did i have here you have the photo you have them

02:23:44.660 both just have it ready oh actually okay that's fine we'll just go through women then we'll go 0.90

02:23:52.460 through men go ahead okay so can you go f11 all right this is gal gadot the woman with the she's

02:23:59.920 pretty thin she's thin there but that's not what she looks like in wonder woman she's like she's 0.99

02:24:05.220 actually fit in wonder woman because it was a very athletic role they go through waxes and wanes too 0.96

02:24:09.720 i mean this is this is the exact actress we're talking about so pull her up as wonder woman and 1.00

02:24:14.420 see what her body looks like go to google image search wonder woman gal gadot you can do like the

02:24:20.520 i don't think it's necessary but we'll do it just i mean for an athletic role just like men

02:24:25.380 women prepare for that we'll get there we'll get hold on we'll get there 1.00

02:24:30.640 wonder woman gal gadot we're compare we're we're i thought the question was like we're comparing how

02:24:37.640 much effort it takes not how they look yeah right that's what their looks but you can tell by like

02:24:44.140 how much okay honestly she's probably about scroll scroll down nick let's see because she's mentioning

02:24:49.120 the leg muscular development uh there's yeah you talked about like black widow you talked and like

02:24:56.080 i think she's probably about the same yeah i don't think that other photo was really uh yeah from my

02:25:01.180 from my expertise i feel like she's probably about in the same shape that one just saying that she's 0.92

02:25:06.860 not she doesn't look as thin as she did in that other photo i'm sorry i disagree it's pretty similar

02:25:11.800 i mean it's very scroll back up nick like can you do full like full body wait that was somebody else

02:25:19.180 i think i don't know okay yeah they probably got look-alikes

02:25:21.660 okay that's not her and that full body one 1.00

02:25:29.500 sure

02:25:31.800 yeah i mean she she looks like she's done yoga a couple times that's it all right she's not like 1.00

02:25:41.740 fitness model look at her arm down there on prompt hunt right there where look at that muscle she 1.00

02:25:47.020 actually has on her shoulder bro you just can't take the other one like i refuse because i know how i i

02:25:54.620 have had five babies come through my body and i know how much effort it takes to actually get your

02:25:59.220 hormones and balance work out and have muscle mass that's irrelevant to the conversation no it's so

02:26:03.840 relevant because i'm a woman and you're saying that it's so much easier for us to achieve a certain

02:26:08.000 body he didn't say though that it's easy he said that it's he said it's easier let's compare a

02:26:12.780 childless woman to a childless man well are that would be on birth control is she not on birth 0.98

02:26:17.940 control does she have enough you always want to make the argument to the outlier i thought i thought

02:26:22.780 discussion was like part of the come part of the pull up the meaning for this we're gonna go

02:26:27.340 through all of these okay next

02:26:31.000 all right that's still gal gadot next this is scarlett johansson next gal gadot again next i think this

02:26:41.680 is brie larson next there she okay brie larson who plays what what is she captain marvel and that's 1.00

02:26:49.540 not how she i mean like i'm bro this is her though yes it's probably her yeah like a lot of

02:26:56.040 those photos be good faith holy shit next honestly yeah like it's impossible for these roles these

02:27:02.360 women probably don't have to go through nearly as much as gal gadot i have read the same movies 0.99

02:27:07.280 are we talking about hollywood are we talking about in general because i thought this was a

02:27:11.080 general statement like we're talking generally well so the question was like hold on let's get

02:27:16.780 through these next uh scarlett johansson scarlett johansson scarlett johansson scarlett johansson

02:27:25.580 i this is these body types we've shown you are achievable by the vast majority of women 1.00

02:27:33.320 they just there's perhaps some physical training but it's mostly can be achieved through diet i mean

02:27:39.780 i'll tell you i did hardly anything at the gym last year and i lost 50 pounds i am very active i work

02:27:47.040 out a lot and i if i could snap my fingers and look like that i would but i'm above average in the

02:27:54.400 activity level of most people my age probably and i still don't look like that and i do you like i

02:28:00.020 i would say i eat pretty well well but on you have to be in a caloric deficit so even even if you're

02:28:07.080 active eating is being being active doesn't contribute nearly as much and you have your

02:28:14.720 body composition as diet does i would agree i would agree with that yeah i'm just saying i am the right

02:28:19.260 i'm saying yeah being active that's a great thing i yeah i am the last person that will say being

02:28:25.060 active is you shouldn't be active but if you want to change your body composition how much fat you

02:28:31.060 have your weight it's all it's like 90 diet yes i lost 50 pounds last year and i'm telling you i

02:28:38.000 literally did not have to do hardly anything at the gym to do it i just changed well you did cut out

02:28:43.920 alcohol and alcohol is really high how much were you drinking uh three liters of wine a day or a liter

02:28:51.060 and a half of gin a day can you get it quick can i just say i cut out alcohol for a year and did not

02:28:56.080 lose one pound that time it wasn't until my second year that i started working out losing weight

02:29:00.880 i just think brian saying that it would be easy to achieve that physique he's not saying it's easier

02:29:07.980 we're doing a comparison of of actors who have leading roles in superhero movies which we can argue

02:29:14.920 that this is conceivably we're talking about beauty standards um and in this case i do agree with you

02:29:21.340 can i say one thing i know you're not going to like it let me just get through this okay sorry okay you

02:29:26.640 tell me when okay so this is uh what's this guy's name chris evans chris evans okay uh this is liam

02:29:34.100 hemsworth uh chris pratt a little more achievable on chris pratt uh this but this okay wolverine

02:29:41.600 this body type with i'm pretty sure he uses steroids first are naturally uh naturally unachievable

02:29:50.440 for 99 naturally that that body right there it would take probably 10 years of work of like

02:29:58.740 dedicated work i like i've probably spent the last six years consistently training i run 20 miles a week

02:30:06.460 i lift a lot of weight and i do i i'm in the gym you're a fit constantly and i have nothing near

02:30:13.740 that no you're pretty good bro like i mean well yeah you guys are like in love with each other or

02:30:18.260 something he's probably on the cut like dehydrated so he's he's like extremely it's probably touched

02:30:23.500 up a little bit but whatever right but this is what they show well this is what you get and i don't

02:30:28.380 think girls expect that at all right but the female the female what if you guys kiss next yeah 1.00

02:30:36.220 okay jason momoa okay next next michael b jordan and a lot of these a lot of these hollywood

02:30:45.420 guys also have like there's that new like plastic surgery for the six-pack situation and things like

02:30:50.700 where's the rock rock next next next next and then unachievable all these physiques are absolutely

02:31:04.960 unachievable by the average man whereas those body types you can go to the beach and see some chick 1.00

02:31:10.960 looking just like the a-list movie stars that you see in the movies yes i had that body 10 years ago

02:31:16.820 so yes it was super easy i did nothing to achieve it i'll agree with you but what i will say and i

02:31:22.180 know you're not gonna like this because i'm pretty sure people have said this on here before is that

02:31:26.200 i don't think the vast majority of women that may be what the media portrays but when i've spoken to 1.00

02:31:31.620 women in real life over and over they generally prefer like dad bod types they're not going for 1.00

02:31:37.080 these super no i disagree you think that most women are going for that like for me fitness is like 1.00

02:31:43.580 literally on the top of the list because if you're not driven on your own to be fit to be healthy to

02:31:48.320 eat healthy then why i'm not going to sit around and police you as a grown person and statistically

02:31:54.220 speaking a waist circumference of over 35 inches i believe it is i can't remember is like 50 percent

02:32:01.340 higher cardiovascular event so are you going to measure your future okay stop stop stop the aspirational

02:32:07.080 body type for men yeah and women if we're comparing the aspirational body type so this would be kind 0.82

02:32:13.740 of like it doesn't have to be like the ultimate 10 out of 10 fucking maxed out to the just like pretty 0.86

02:32:19.300 close to the ideal like you're 80 percent of the way there yeah yeah is very achievable for most women 1.00

02:32:28.380 whereas for men you're going to need some combination of like full-time dedication to the gym

02:32:32.880 like elite level genetics or uh steroid intervention yes i agree to achieve that level

02:32:41.360 of muscularity yeah and it's not fair i agree with you right but this whole trope of oh my beauty

02:32:49.920 standards it's so hard as a woman because it can be hard for both beauty standards this is the thing 1.00

02:32:55.680 it's hard for both people i fully recognize that men have it bad i love men i appreciate what they bring 0.99

02:33:01.720 to the table and i realize right now especially in society they're getting shit on all the time

02:33:05.700 and they have these unrealistic standards i totally understand that but that doesn't say 0.95

02:33:10.040 that oh women do not also have pressures on themselves also i'm saying that it's both both and

02:33:17.020 we can't we can sit here and have this war of like oh who's more oppressed who's who's got more issues 0.98

02:33:21.760 that are higher harder to achieve and whatever and it's like we all have shit we're dealing with 0.90

02:33:27.120 so we can all be a little bit more compassionate understanding to each other right no but what 0.93

02:33:31.500 but this is so this is where are we getting at this what's the goal so the issue is is when men

02:33:37.200 present hey there is whether it's good bad whatever we're presenting a inequality or something that

02:33:44.240 women hold us to a higher standard than they would themselves the immediate response is usually 1.00

02:33:50.380 well i have it hard too yeah see but i didn't say any of that well it's not saying i'm not saying

02:33:54.840 you came immediately back with i had no he is bringing up stuff that i said pre-show to to make

02:34:00.880 it seem like i'm i'm somehow challenging this argument i'm not i feel for men well it's usually

02:34:05.180 so when men bring something like this up it's usually met with a belittling comment i would agree in

02:34:13.180 general circumstances yes okay so but that's like pretty much all of the conversations we've had here

02:34:20.040 where there's been a disagreement where we try to put something forward where men struggle with this

02:34:24.760 at a disproportionate amount it's usually met with a belittling comment yes and i think if we're

02:34:31.620 going to try to sit back and assess just like we talked about before with your appearance we should

02:34:39.960 sit back assess put ourselves in the other person's shoes and realize hey shoot men really do have this

02:34:47.200 particular thing very difficult uh maybe i need to change how i look at them most women are 1.00

02:34:53.060 unable to do that yes and i like i fully agree with you i have had that self-assessment and actually

02:34:59.800 this may sound crazy but i feel like this show has helped me in preparation um like for months i've

02:35:05.940 been listening to this podcast i've seen things from a different side a different point of view i think

02:35:11.380 most women are not listening to men when they bring it forward just make an argument just make an 1.00

02:35:16.380 argument what what what am i supposed to argue with when i agree with what you're saying i'm not

02:35:20.200 trying to be rude but you're kind of just prattling i agree with you i can't what do you want me to do

02:35:25.440 there's there's all this like extra like feel good just make an argument i i don't have an argument

02:35:31.340 against that i you're just kind of no offense you're just kind of like speaking to speak no like

02:35:37.120 make a coherent point okay everyone else can speak i'm not allowed to agree with no it's just

02:35:42.040 like you you have to add on like so much no okay then i'll stop talking like that's fine can i say

02:35:49.440 something about like just the like to the point of like men taking this many years and like oscillating

02:35:55.660 mk donated two hundred dollars can we turn off the mic for number two she's been talking more than

02:36:02.540 every other girl combined also wake up my queen in the shades she's the most beautiful one on the 1.00

02:36:09.260 panel do you want to get married is that the pilot that might be a pilot everyone is welcome to speak

02:36:15.000 so everyone can speak actions speak so much louder than thank you mk cool thank you uh yeah so

02:36:24.680 i mean look i appreciate the back and forth but it's just like not really hearing an argument it's

02:36:31.820 just like well i agree with you but uh you know they're it's like a kumbaya session like oh yeah

02:36:39.780 well i'm sorry i'm not an argumentative bitch i will i'm not gonna topic i'm gonna move it on i will 0.98

02:36:47.540 point out we got one more thing to get through we're gonna go through a comparison thin women versus 1.00

02:36:53.180 thin men we'll do women first then we'll do men we love our scrawny men there you go scrawny men all right

02:37:00.700 so i'm just gonna i actually i want to just go through this make sure everything's kosher here

02:37:05.380 uh so i think it's all fine uh we'll just go through there's like uh 14 so we'll just blast through

02:37:11.900 um okay we got a skinny woman skinny woman skinny woman skinny woman skinny woman skinny woman skinny 1.00

02:37:21.660 woman skinny skinny woman i would argue that a lot of men despite these women not really you know some of

02:37:28.660 them have a little you know your body fat gets low enough you're gonna have like some uh abs showing

02:37:33.840 a little bit even if you don't work out but uh these women don't look particularly like trained or 1.00

02:37:39.520 anything maybe they do a little bit but they're not you know that's what we like to call skinny fat

02:37:44.760 they're no i don't think these women are even skinny fat they're just they're just thin i would argue 1.00

02:37:50.100 healthy body fat now nick pull up the the men now these are just untrained thin men and i would argue

02:37:57.120 the untrained thin uh thin man body most women like most men if we compare like going back to the 0.99

02:38:04.520 women that we just saw most men i would argue 80 90 percent of men will be like those women are hot

02:38:10.540 they're sexy they're attractive looking at the men who have not stepped foot in a gym most likely i 0.94

02:38:16.900 would argue most women are and be like damn that's i'm not attracted to that guy based off his body 0.56

02:38:22.060 go ahead next average male body average untrained male body average thin this guy's a bit more on 0.96

02:38:30.360 the thin side twink i would love him great thin male thin male untrained another twink oh my god i

02:38:37.580 would argue that most women would not pull down his box this is not like what's up like these body 1.00

02:38:44.020 types are like the average thin male i would argue that most women they're not oh god he's serving 0.66

02:38:52.160 next next next that's it i would argue comparatively speaking that there will be more men that find

02:39:03.180 those women that we just looked at attractive than there will be women who find those men physically

02:39:08.420 attractive just on body just on body comparable you're saying if they're naked basically if

02:39:13.500 they're at the beach pretty much because you can't really tell when someone's wearing like a

02:39:17.560 yes just clothing and stuff okay the photos we just looked at i would argue that the majority of men 0.99

02:39:23.980 would find those women to have perfectly acceptable attractive sexy bodies yeah but men will fuck a 1.00

02:39:32.660 fucking mcchicken they would be okay fine they'll literally fuck anything i'll take it even beyond 1.00

02:39:37.520 casual sex they would happily be in a relationship with these women too based off of just how they 1.00

02:39:41.880 look i think it goes both ways because both oh i would argue can improve their body like a fit man

02:39:47.860 if he sees a thin woman he's like she can she can go to the gym and she can build of course same with 1.00

02:39:52.380 a woman that sees a thin man like that's something that's an easy fix yes of course there will be 1.00

02:39:57.480 women and i've seen a man fucking make chicken it was horrible stop with the mayonnaise hey stop of 1.00

02:40:03.540 course there will be of course there will be women who find those types of men attractive 0.99

02:40:09.640 not attractive i think it's just not a deterrent what it's something that's easier men so you're you're

02:40:17.820 saying that uh women will find those guys and say hey they can work on themselves they can the gym

02:40:22.440 whatever but men would prefer most men would prefer a woman just to stay like that they don't care if 1.00

02:40:29.660 they go to the gym that hasn't been my experience on the dating scene when i had that body i never

02:40:34.020 had a man like care if i went to the gym exactly that's the point i've had plenty of men say that

02:40:39.620 they prefer you know fit women that actually have like meat on their bones but they would not prefer 1.00

02:40:45.760 a cultural shift that's happened from social media which category do you fall in the woman with a bit

02:40:51.760 more meat on her bones slim thick yeah and these men are telling that that are do these men have a

02:40:56.680 romantic interest in you and they're telling you this i mean obviously most of the time when we're

02:41:02.920 having these kinds of conversations who are no i have guy friends too that are like that too okay yeah

02:41:08.040 and well this actually falls back to men finding a wider range of uh body fat acceptable or attractive

02:41:15.000 even but i would argue if you're hearing this from men who are interested in dating you or sleeping

02:41:20.940 with you newsflash men will lie and tell you men men will uh pander to you i have brothers too yes i

02:41:30.080 have okay cool 51st cousins like i have men in my life that are not just if you were dating a guy and

02:41:35.420 he was interested in pursuing you do you think it would go over well if he was like well you're not

02:41:40.560 my ideal body type but you think it would go over well no but it wouldn't go it wouldn't go over

02:41:47.900 well the other way around either yeah but guys are gonna gas you up and be like oh babe you're so

02:41:52.020 fucking sexy i like you just how you are most men are not going to be honest with a woman especially 0.87

02:41:56.320 if he's pursuing her romantically well then it just it this is the law of like reciprocity that's like 0.98

02:42:04.540 it's mutuality it's for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction like i think it goes both

02:42:10.160 ways the argument we're trying to make is that yeah preferably a man uh men in general will probably

02:42:17.940 want a woman who's fit who goes to the gym whatever but our range of hey we're gonna yeah 0.99

02:42:24.160 so acceptability like i will i will continue a relationship with a woman if she is within this

02:42:30.620 range of body composition is way wider than it is for women do you wonder why we're biologically like 0.99

02:42:37.380 that i'm just saying women go through pregnancies like men are wired to accept a wider range men don't

02:42:44.720 go through pregnancies for a man it's literally just negligence that will like not keep him fit like 0.72

02:42:50.020 he's just not gonna go to the gym not gonna watch his diet drink a lot whatever for a woman there's

02:42:54.640 less control like you get pregnant you don't control your hormones the rate at which you like 0.89

02:43:00.160 you have very small little to no control of how much you're actually i don't think you're

02:43:04.120 understanding the actual argument here i am understanding it i'm saying biologically men

02:43:08.940 are wired to accept a wider range because women will change and their body will morph throughout

02:43:14.940 their adult lives yeah we already made the argument that men find a wider body fat percentage range

02:43:20.460 acceptable again though we're talking about something different i'm not saying that we showed those image

02:43:25.980 of the more thin women i'm not saying that men wouldn't date women who had a higher body fat percentage 0.98

02:43:32.680 range i was trying to make a comparison between the thin man versus the thin woman and i would argue

02:43:39.280 that comparatively speaking those women that we showed you more men will deem them attractive than

02:43:45.960 there will be women who deem those thin men attractive no women will deem them attractive come on don't

02:43:51.140 you know women love twinks how many people love timothy chalamet i mean come on he's like the greatest

02:43:55.960 actor you you know greatest actor okay i'm not jeez god that's a statement i think you're failing to

02:44:01.720 understand my argument i am saying that there will be more men who find that body type attractive that 0.97

02:44:10.780 body fat percentage that's not true women will settle for a lot less oh fuck like a guy who works 1.00

02:44:15.880 at a pizza shop or something like that just statistically inaccurate it's true i don't know okay let's go 0.98

02:44:21.340 around the table you saw the guys that we showed do you think that that's like in terms of what you

02:44:26.480 find attractive in a man physically speaking body type wise would you say that's like were those like

02:44:33.020 attractive body types for you it could be some women like thin thin men maybe it's not the ideal though 0.99

02:44:40.280 honestly yeah i do find it like attractive but like it's not like my ideal like type but at the end of

02:44:48.560 the day like there are people outside of my type that i still find attractive sure i've dated all

02:44:55.200 types so do you have a problem with that i'm just saying i've dated all types uh so in terms of that i

02:45:03.120 really don't have a problem with it there's only maybe one guy that i would say was like a little too

02:45:08.340 thin for me but i'm open to a range um but yeah i'd say generally speaking most women i agree with 0.99

02:45:14.560 your statement i prefer a fit looking man i mean you're kind of making the argument that these men

02:45:22.340 would their body types would not you would not find them fit to me yeah you're sort of agreeing

02:45:26.260 with them fit to me equates to healthy so hold on wait wait hold on just a sec here but there's

02:45:34.060 room for somebody to grow hold on stop hold on one moment nick just letting you know okay um

02:45:40.560 um blasi before the show i requested that we had like there was a negotiation here that you not

02:45:49.420 wear your sunglasses there was no such thing you were all present every person at this table can

02:45:54.900 disagree with that liars okay we asked you not to wear your sunglasses i look better look at look at

02:46:00.780 this okay that's cool so look you've been kind of trolling this whole time i'm not going to make a

02:46:05.120 big thing of it um but like you just keep trolling you've now put on your sunglasses we asked you

02:46:10.680 very politely before the show not to like so just kindly like don't make a scene but just leave

02:46:17.660 okay that's fine just nick you can we need a little video hello nick oh my god

02:46:32.040 don't yeah keep your hands off hey

02:46:44.880 keep your hands off of him what are you doing

02:46:51.340 just just yeah just leave like you don't just get out of here what are you doing

02:46:56.820 just unprofessional assaulting the audio guy leave leave leave what are you doing 0.65

02:47:07.140 trying to punch him oh my god it's crazy she should have been kicked out like so long ago my gosh

02:47:16.060 holy oh my god she there was a high likelihood that that was gonna happen oh i knew it was gonna 0.82

02:47:24.460 happen i knew it not the violence but the insanity i just thought it would be against me

02:47:31.560 people who can't see that yeah just make sure yeah i'm sure brian's making sure that happened but

02:47:40.120 for people who are watching uh yeah she she did not go quietly no yeah i she's going home and um

02:47:49.000 in a private yeah she's going home in a private pilot guy maybe you should uh call the authorities

02:47:58.840 take your seat that was nuts we were talking you okay nick yeah so okay for you guys who don't

02:48:10.040 know like i mean i was very polite just asked her to leave uh nick just it's our policy if we're

02:48:15.000 kicking someone out we just record it and um she uh she like hit you or she'd like grab the phone

02:48:23.560 oh she's trying because nick started recording so she tried to grab his phone yeah it's like look

02:48:28.040 we got throwing punches did she try to punch you nick or i don't know if she tried to punch it it

02:48:33.560 kind of looked like it but it was a pathetic effort it was i mean it was like someone who's never 0.86

02:48:38.520 punched before who's trying to throw a punch um she broke your necklace nick yeah how much does it cost

02:48:46.600 i'll i'll uh i'll replace it it's like 20 bucks okay i'll throw you a 20. did you guys see that though

02:48:53.720 she attacked us we've never had that happen before she's literally everything that negative about like 0.92

02:49:01.000 latinas like she was the embodiment she's like such a negative i mean you guys were all here we told 1.00

02:49:11.720 her before the show hey don't put your sunglasses on you guys know she was trolling the whole time yeah

02:49:16.440 yeah i she put the sunglasses back on she was asking to be kicked off i didn't make a scene i 0.98

02:49:21.720 was just like hey just just leave uh but it was totally uh it's one thing to troll but then to

02:49:27.000 actually like she assaulted nick yeah i mean nick if you wanted to you could all over there there's

02:49:31.880 well you have video recording so you could press did it come through on the like were you already

02:49:35.960 recording or yeah part of the struggle when she just had her hands on me i was holding it i don't

02:49:40.680 know how much i got okay we need we need like i should have yeah the camera over that way next

02:49:47.400 to trooper did you swipe at youtube gustavo he had the he had the uniform on she wasn't trying

02:49:54.680 she wasn't even daring that just on camera like for the whole internet but the minute i'm filming it

02:50:00.360 yeah it doesn't make sense yeah she had a glasses on for it too she likes that oh my gosh i thought it

02:50:06.600 was going to be me at the end of the night honestly it's it's weird yeah that doesn't make sense like

02:50:11.160 you're you're on camera already nick's just recording you because that's just our policy

02:50:16.600 he just grabbed her and you're done good job nick you okay nick you're all right okay i mean yeah

02:50:23.240 she was like assaulting nick but i was i was kind of sitting here thinking

02:50:27.160 does she really think she's gonna win that fight i was thinking he's got a lot of self-control oh yeah

02:50:32.360 same here i was like she was swiping at him i know she was swiping at him he has a lot of

02:50:36.440 self-control you just restrained her so yeah yeah he was like i had to settle down he was guarding

02:50:41.160 himself more um we might need to clean up maybe could somebody yeah i just walked through the chips

02:50:47.640 did you step on them yeah i did a little bit i'm sorry i tried not to all right

02:50:53.000 she's not in the building yeah maybe spencer take you want to hold on wait nick mute the mute the audio

02:50:59.480 really quick oh wait hold on unmute it joe murphy donated two hundred dollars who on the panel

02:51:05.720 identifies as a feminist based on your answers can you clearly describe your definition of feminism

02:51:12.200 as a whole it's a good question we can keep it simple referring to western feminism not eastern

02:51:18.680 yo joe murphy um mute the audio we'll get to that mute the audio for just a second it's muted um

02:51:24.920 um spencer just uh take the keys and then just go to the bottom of the stairs make sure the door is

02:51:31.480 closed all that and uh sweet thank you spencer you got the keys nick what's that you should take the

02:51:38.280 pepper spray yeah do you guys actually have that yeah you're good you're good okay guys um

02:51:44.040 interesting fun in the studio i feel i feel bad i feel like we're not all that surprised though

02:51:52.120 none of us were surprised by it i'm not i mean like i was trying to give her passes with the trolling

02:51:57.800 and shit hoping it would get better but but now we have the lovely madison at the table so big 1.00

02:52:03.240 the nicest thing you've ever said about me is it yeah no i just called me lovely oh yeah lovely 0.98

02:52:11.800 madison i appreciate it yeah uh yeah we have madison at the table so i think we've just that was major

02:52:17.080 upgrade major upgrade um and uh anyways she was kind of funny she was funny she was funny at times

02:52:25.320 it's very random just to give you guys the man also just to give you guys some context oh we could

02:52:31.640 actually re-recording so we could even play the video oh yeah just to show you guys so like before

02:52:36.680 the show nick had a talk with her because we don't want people wearing sunglasses it's maybe happened

02:52:40.760 a couple times before but like part of the thing is is like part of communication you want to be able

02:52:45.080 to see people's eyes right and so nick politely just had a convo with her and she's like hey can you

02:52:49.800 take the glasses off uh if you're hiding your your eyes you can't really like it's part of communication

02:52:57.080 body language and then uh she was putting up a fight with nick and then i had a conversation with

02:53:01.560 her polite i was just like hey you can't wear the sunglasses she's and then she she agreed to

02:53:06.680 not put the sunglasses on and then she put the sunglasses on she was trolling the whole show i 1.00

02:53:10.440 mean i saw it coming so no big deal anyways we're gonna move on uh we did have that super chat that

02:53:15.160 came through nick how is your is your uh you have like did you have a uh adrenaline dump like fight or

02:53:21.800 flight yeah i mean that's what that's what happens when somebody like gets in your face like that but um

02:53:27.560 um shout out to nick man he's yeah go nick he's a trooper um you're good though right she didn't

02:53:36.200 like actually like injure you i don't think she could have she wanted to yeah he's so much was she

02:53:42.760 drunk like that's what i'm wondering she was just under the influence of something she kind of sounded 0.85

02:53:48.120 like she was slurring she was she was trolling for it was an act she was trolling but she's outside

02:53:53.720 the door just oh yeah just wait hold on mute it really quick uh like trying to get back in or

02:54:02.200 what do you think she's probably watching the stream

02:54:06.200 if you're watching you deserve to be kicked off this is the last thing that police are gonna care

02:54:11.000 about right now in this town well she got physical just keep a keep an eye on it okay um yeah i don't

02:54:17.880 want to get jumped yeah i mean you guys might try to make sure she's not like recording this outside

02:54:24.040 or like taking pictures of it or anything oh yeah is it unmuted lasting that yeah i mean info on there

02:54:31.560 and i mean whatever it's it's fine yeah um hashtag whatever yeah right whatever there it is all right

02:54:41.000 uh okay we're gonna reach joe murphy donated two hundred dollars who on the panel identifies as a

02:54:51.720 feminist based on your answers can you clearly describe your definition of feminism as a whole 0.98

02:54:58.120 we can keep it simple referring to western feminism not eastern uh so we'll go around the table on that

02:55:04.440 if you guys want to answer the question i don't identify as a feminist no no yeah okay uh i i would

02:55:13.400 say i used to identify as a feminist uh i no longer do because i used to think feminism is asking i don't

02:55:19.720 know the difference between the western and eastern feminism but i used to believe that feminism was about 1.00

02:55:25.160 equality between the sexes and now i realize there there will never be equality because we are not the 0.62

02:55:31.160 same um we can certainly have you know equal opportunities in certain areas but yeah so i

02:55:37.240 think feminism has become like way beyond equality and now it's about like building a matriarchy so i 0.58

02:55:43.240 don't i don't support that yeah well at what point did that shift occur honestly over the last couple

02:55:49.800 years it's funny like this one guy i was seeing um i freaked out on him when i was still very far left and

02:55:56.360 feminist and man hating and because he told me he listened to jordan peterson and i'd only heard 0.99

02:56:01.160 little bits of jordan peterson and i was like you asshole i went on i was drunk i went on a tirade for 0.98

02:56:06.440 three hours uh just shouting at him and i don't know why he listened but anyway then one day i was like 0.98

02:56:11.560 i'm gonna listen to jordan peterson just see what he's saying i started listening to more right-wing

02:56:16.520 people and i started listening to like different voices than what i'd heard for so long and i was like

02:56:21.640 dang i actually agree with them on some things and over time it just sort of shifted and i really

02:56:26.680 opened my eyes up so i just listened to different perspectives than what i yeah was fed i think that's

02:56:31.160 extremely important i think you did you did the thing that most people will not do whether you're

02:56:36.120 on the right or the left it's listening to opposing opinions and reasoning through that i think most

02:56:42.440 people don't do that well like i lived in a like uh what do you call it you know it's just everything

02:56:48.120 was coming back to me was only what i wanted to hear you know tunnel vision yeah you lived in your

02:56:52.680 own bubble in my own bubble and so it was just every idea i had was reinforced by that worldview

02:56:58.520 and when i finally stepped outside that worldview i was like oh dang it there's different opinions

02:57:03.720 that maybe are right on some things and maybe i'm doing things because certainly my relationships

02:57:07.640 weren't working out so it just re-evaluated everything and even listening to this podcast like

02:57:12.360 it's just been growing since then so yeah yeah i think yeah it's it's important to listen to people you

02:57:17.240 don't one don't know i think it's a phenomenon with jordan peterson in particular yeah he even

02:57:23.400 says he doesn't think he's right wing he's he's just kind of an intellectual yes he critical thinking

02:57:29.800 he's critical thinker hates communism yes loves the free market stuff like that yeah i don't know about

02:57:35.800 free market but he loves like freedom in general yeah over uh security well i've been listening to

02:57:41.160 like michael knowles ben shapiro like all of that stuff well just different voices i i definitely

02:57:45.480 don't agree with all of those yes but i guess coming back to the topic of feminism it's uh trying 1.00

02:57:51.880 to take a critical evaluation of all sides of people who are pro-feminism anti-feminism what is

02:57:57.800 the reasoning behind it and thinking about that yeah do i see what are the negatives i see uh play out

02:58:04.440 in our society that generally has kind of swung towards the hey let's push feminism and see what happens 1.00

02:58:11.320 yes well i felt for a long time like i had to think like a man and behave like a man especially

02:58:16.040 in regard to relationships or else i wouldn't succeed if i just didn't put my feelings first

02:58:21.320 if i just tried to like have fun and fool around and then i found oh i don't operate like a man because

02:58:27.640 i'm not a man and it's actually doing me a disservice to try to be a man and that's why like

02:58:33.400 my whole attitude has changed because i've realized like everything i did for so long was not working for

02:58:38.920 me and it was all colored by this world view and i was very angry when i was far left super feminist

02:58:44.760 i could not listen to man i could not listen to anybody other than myself we'll we can definitely

02:58:50.120 get into that let's let's move on to the yeah move on to the next person yeah and then we'll yeah

02:58:55.480 we'll definitely dive more into that no no it's okay it's okay it's okay so i don't know the difference

02:58:59.880 between eastern and western feminism honestly i don't really but i do identify with a traditional

02:59:05.880 feminist versus a modern feminist i believe um yeah i believe in like equity you know i believe

02:59:13.320 that you know women do you know should have rights they shouldn't be property they should have the 0.81

02:59:18.120 right to vote so you mean equality not equity yeah not equality equality and equity are different so

02:59:25.480 equity is more of like you know we're we're contributing but we also contribute in different

02:59:32.600 ways so for example if i'm the second income of the household but i'm also a mom you know and a

02:59:38.680 homemaker that's also contributing so i shouldn't be expected to pay 50 of the bills for example

02:59:45.320 but i can contribute if needed right that's equity versus equality equality is like 50 50 down the middle

02:59:52.440 well i think equality classically defined by most people who talk about this is uh

02:59:59.480 uh equal opportunity versus equal outcome equality being equal opportunity and then equity being

03:00:05.960 equal outcome so uh when two people are in a game uh equality means they have the same starting line

03:00:13.400 so uh it's determinant upon the effort that the person puts in to where they end up versus uh equity

03:00:21.560 which is we are going to try to analyze each person individually set them at different starting lines

03:00:27.720 so they end in the same place so i've heard it um talked about differently and the way that i

03:00:34.600 contributed it but my bottom line of it is um i want all of my children to live in a world where

03:00:42.280 the woman and the man alike are you know respected in their own right for their contribution value equally

03:00:49.720 exactly okay like we all bring something to the table and then at the end of the day you know all jobs

03:00:56.360 exist and all like finances and structure in the world exist for the one the greatest job right

03:01:03.080 yeah i think the woman to to you know be able to bear children and rear them and contribute to society 1.00

03:01:09.400 yeah i think the two most important jobs that there are are being a father and being a mother

03:01:14.200 um yeah i think when society puts the emphasis off of those two things saying hey a career is more

03:01:21.400 important than raising your own family not saying that it it can't be something you consider but it

03:01:26.440 takes priority over i think you see issues and i think uh traditional feminists so like first wave 1.00

03:01:33.960 feminists would a hundred percent get down with uh historically they would be totally down with saying 1.00

03:01:41.080 that men and women have equal value but they are definitely not equal yeah they're different

03:01:47.080 they contribute different things to society and i think so that's what i would identify yeah

03:01:51.880 their different contributions are what makes society thrive i think when you try to suppress that

03:01:59.160 you get a whole lot of issues in their natural roles that they naturally gravitate to yeah yeah

03:02:04.920 okay madison i would not consider myself a feminist i think i just concede on your definition of what

03:02:10.520 feminism is uh just the equality of men and women but obviously it's transpired into different things 1.00

03:02:15.880 um i think men and women are equally important when it comes to contributing to society and like we

03:02:24.200 just talked about and value but they're we're not actually equal yeah yeah i definitely agree to like

03:02:30.600 a certain extent i believe that minimum should be equal and i i think more so even like going beyond like

03:02:36.840 i think that in today's day and age um feminism has definitely changed into like pushing like almost like 1.00

03:02:43.000 in the workforce at least for example like trying to hire more women to like equal it which does like 0.96

03:02:49.560 sorry this is gonna like make no sense but that makes sense but i think that um yeah

03:02:55.400 so to make it you sorry no you're good that was just word jumble but i believe that they should be equal

03:03:02.280 i don't necessarily think that we should try and like push getting women more jobs because i feel like

03:03:07.320 that then doesn't make it equal anymore yeah i think that if everyone's looking at it at a level

03:03:12.040 playing field eventually it would like level out to be just who um has the qualifications to get that

03:03:18.440 job in the form like marriage um my at least for my family example my mom works and so does my dad and

03:03:25.240 they both um they're more feminist in the form that they both like contribute to the bills and whatever it 1.00

03:03:31.640 is um like with what they can and like my mom doesn't make as much as my dad so she can't maybe

03:03:37.640 like help as much in that form i know that um yeah so yeah that made sense yeah okay so you don't

03:03:44.200 consider yourself a feminist i do in the form that i believe that in like having it be equal and i think

03:03:50.280 that men and women should both be working so you're kind of yes like earlier wave feminist yeah like not

03:03:54.760 so much today's though yeah yeah i am i'm a traditional feminist but i feel like some people

03:04:00.520 have pushed it a little too far out and like just started a bunch of controversy and just like

03:04:05.080 dragged it out but i am yeah equal equal opportunity okay do you think women wait who here is a feminist 1.00

03:04:13.080 traditional feminist traditional feminist what about you i'm not a feminist feminist really cool

03:04:19.080 question for those of you who are feminist uh what do you guys think about the current

03:04:24.040 inequality when it comes to draft registration between men and women so being a feminist you 0.92

03:04:30.200 said you believe in what was it equal equality right opportunity do you believe in equality though

03:04:35.720 yeah do you believe in equality yeah equality in equity and you missed our conversation about the

03:04:42.360 difference between traditional and modern feminism well let me ask you guys a question then and perhaps 0.81

03:04:47.800 you can weigh in two given this that you believe in equality wouldn't the equal thing be to equalize

03:04:55.880 uh military conscription so should do you think women should be subject to the draft yeah okay yeah i'd 0.95

03:05:02.200 agree if you're gonna ask for in other aspects of life you have to like that's fair what about you i

03:05:07.640 disagree with that well how can you be a feminist and believe in equity and equality like i said 0.80

03:05:16.680 grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars feminism has failed all women egalitarianism is a 1.00

03:05:24.200 crack addicts pipe dream mean and women are not equal the patriarchy values women for being women 0.84

03:05:30.840 and stands ready to assist her return to reality okay philosopher so you believe in equity i'm not

03:05:39.080 really sure so i explained it because you were gone so traditional feminism to me means you know the 1.00

03:05:46.600 suffrage women should vote and contribute to society right and all jobs pretty much exist to support the 0.98

03:05:53.720 traditional feminist role which means having children raising a family that's not a feminist 1.00

03:06:00.200 yeah a modern feminist is very different it's more of like a hate men stance and posture i mean it's 1.00

03:06:06.520 always been that way but no it hasn't the original feminists that fought for you know voters rights and for 1.00

03:06:14.040 women to not be treated as property did not come from an angle of we hate men came from an angle of

03:06:19.560 i am human too just like you know black people when they were in slavery right and things like

03:06:25.160 that i mean i i don't think there's a difference there women didn't women couldn't even sign a lease 0.60

03:06:30.680 on their own with their own credit not for like over what 50 years ago or 100 okay fake news so it's not

03:06:38.840 fake news because it's it's legal it's in it's in our history books it's law told you do you know the

03:06:43.960 nwo the national or sorry not the nwo that's something else the national organization for women

03:06:49.240 now you familiar with it so this is one like the early leading feminist organizations uh feminism 1.00

03:06:57.960 does have uh feminism has always been against the nuclear family breaking up families it's actually one 1.00

03:07:05.320 of the stated goals of feminism it's this idea that traditional feminism was all for women being 0.86

03:07:10.520 like having families no feminism has always been at least one of its attempts has been to destroy the 1.00

03:07:16.600 family and it's been quite successful at it i think i think that's a blanket statement again and i think

03:07:21.720 that we have like a mix of the population of what traditional feminism started as it may have been 0.81

03:07:27.960 a few small a small few of leaders that had different ideas and ideologies but the grand in the grand scheme of

03:07:36.280 thing of things the women that did mobilize and fight for rights came from a very different place 1.00

03:07:42.600 of i don't want my daughter to live in a world where she feels oppressed and she doesn't get paid equally

03:07:50.200 but might work twice as hard in the workforce or things like that like if we're going to ask women 1.00

03:07:54.760 to bring a second income in the household or something shouldn't they be compensated for the 0.79

03:07:59.080 you know the same amount of work that they're doing too and and the fact that they have other

03:08:03.240 responsibilities at home as well you know but back to my point traditional feminism

03:08:09.400 became came to fruition as a movement of like we don't want our daughters to be property we want 0.82

03:08:15.800 our daughters to be daughters in god's eyes we there is no woman there is no man in god's eyes

03:08:21.000 that's what the bible says i think they have

03:08:23.160 you don't know that women were legally property so you could buy a woman no not that sense but 0.99

03:08:39.080 we can talk about slavery that's something else you could buy a man a woman could not go and do 0.99

03:08:43.960 anything without permission from her husband if she was married she was every sorry no it's okay no if

03:08:49.960 she was married back in the day any money that she would earn would belong to her husband and her 0.89

03:08:53.800 children would belong to her husband so if she were to try and get divorced from him they would 1.00

03:08:58.200 be his property that like they'd be his kids she wouldn't that wouldn't make a woman the property 1.00

03:09:03.960 of the husband even if that is true it wouldn't make him them the property i feel like it wouldn't

03:09:10.520 grid one motorsports donated 200 you have been lied to women could always own property a woman was 1.00

03:09:18.680 elected mayor in 1877 you need to read a book and learn the real history return to the patriarchy we

03:09:26.280 will enlighten you yeah so i i yeah i kind of i i agree with grid one um the history of women uh would 0.99

03:09:36.440 heavily disagree with uh what feminists push right now feminists love to push this idea that women have 1.00

03:09:43.960 suffered throughout history where in fact when the feminist agenda was being pushed the vast majority 1.00

03:09:50.680 of women pushed fanatically against it and the people that were actually pushing this feminist agenda 0.96

03:09:57.240 were large corporations and lobbyists because hey if i can give equality to women as well as men 0.84

03:10:06.440 now and they have a vote they can get in the workforce all of a sudden i have twice as many

03:10:13.400 people i can start taxing twice as many people i can start getting all of their money from it has never

03:10:19.960 been an altruistic hey this is just better for the world that's what they peddled that's what they said

03:10:25.800 that's what they promoted but secretly that's never been the ideal of feminism and most women had 1.00

03:10:32.280 pushed against it at the time but most women didn't have the voice that major corporations and major 1.00

03:10:39.080 people in government did but i think i think the whole push for it was that at some point like

03:10:44.360 especially later in feminism it's because like women lost um the trust that they should have had in the 1.00

03:10:50.280 men around them to provide and protect for them like a lot of people talk about now like i don't want to

03:10:56.040 rely on a man for um if for our income for our family like if he leaves me then what am i going

03:11:03.080 to do i'll have no education and nothing to rely on but i think like the what you're saying about how

03:11:07.880 feminism like has tried to destroy the nuclear family is true because essentially you would have a 1.00

03:11:13.160 man who would be a provider and protector and who would protect that woman she wouldn't have to feel the

03:11:18.600 need to fight against that for her own freedom because she would have faith in her husband to care for

03:11:24.920 that her properly and care for her family properly and provide for them well just historically speaking 0.99

03:11:30.200 it's not accurate like like i said feminists love to paint a history where women were dumb they were 1.00

03:11:36.760 property they were traded it's just not true women were overwhelmingly happy with the arrangement they

03:11:43.640 were also extreme i would that's a stretch no no historically accurate no because women at 14 years 0.90

03:11:51.080 old were being sent off to marry men that were much older than them even as children so let's not

03:11:57.800 like talk about like how happy women were if you like i come from a very very conservative background very

03:12:04.440 traditional background okay there's a lot of religious indoctrination a lot of cultural conditioning

03:12:09.480 a lot of stuff that happens out in the world it's not just like in america america's a very free

03:12:15.400 society and yes i understand feminism before you pull the world card like i'm i'm not ignorant to

03:12:22.040 what's happened around the world what happens around the world actually women in other countries 1.00

03:12:27.480 are generally way more happy in their marriages than women in the u.s i lived in a foreign country

03:12:33.000 for most for all of high school i've met people like that i've met people who hey it was an arranged

03:12:39.000 marriage at first i didn't know this person but because the constraints on marriage are so

03:12:45.080 tight in most other countries you're forced to be in that uh the uh the hot pot where you have

03:12:53.000 to work on things because there is no there you cannot break this it is that covenant but eventually

03:13:00.200 you come out the other side and those two people love each other and generally speaking that's what

03:13:04.680 happens and generally speaking it is because the man will provide for the family and it frees up the

03:13:11.560 woman to do what she wants to do which is raise teach because women generally speaking in history 1.00

03:13:19.560 were very intelligent taught their children because most uh i think it's uh uh the education of colonial 1.00

03:13:29.560 day children was probably equivalent to college right now probably to a master's degree their vocabulary

03:13:37.400 but that's also the literature that was being put out the things that people were reading the way

03:13:41.480 people were talking you've got to like take the whole like picture with it they had tutors they

03:13:46.360 had a lot of different things in a society that was run by men yeah but yeah operated by women too 0.94

03:13:53.160 like that like i'm saying that's the whole dialogue we need because the women really enjoyed that 1.00

03:13:58.040 didn't just do everything yes they provided opportunity and did a lot of the brute force work but then women 1.00

03:14:03.800 also executed i'm not saying that women did nothing things i didn't i didn't say women did nothing 0.97

03:14:09.000 they were very traditionally they were extremely happy with the role that they were given where

03:14:14.920 they were the housewife the stay-at-home mom the teacher uh the one who nurtured all the children

03:14:21.640 they were intelligent they had to be because they had to teach their children whereas nowadays

03:14:27.080 women can just pawn off their children to the government and say hey please teach our my child 1.00

03:14:32.760 and how can a woman teach their children though if they don't have an education which is kind of like 1.00

03:14:38.040 the conversation we were having which i wanted to have a little yeah yeah well education nowadays

03:14:43.800 holds very little weight i know specifically in the corporate world when i was an engineer

03:14:49.800 like oh most of the uh having a degree as an engineer is important but for most other jobs

03:14:57.160 experience is king they do not care if you have a degree right but you're talking about women 1.00

03:15:03.000 teaching and child rearing and educating children don't they need an education themselves as well so

03:15:08.120 they don't need a formal education and how are you going to learn if you don't get the get a formal

03:15:13.160 education see this is another thing this is another thing that the government schooled all five of my

03:15:17.880 kids until this past year like i if anybody understands what it means to actually homeschool kids

03:15:23.480 and have an education versus not have an education it's pro i'm probably the most qualified one at

03:15:27.800 the table final thoughts from the both of you on this no yeah this is just it's it's it's debatable

03:15:33.560 i think uh but no it's not debatable because no our our modern education is vastly vastly inferior

03:15:41.960 compared to what we had in the past when we didn't have government supplied education people were way

03:15:48.920 more intelligent it's almost like it's only it's almost like people in power want people under them

03:15:54.840 to be dumber of course they do so they can't be challenged the literacy rate alone is like horrific

03:16:00.760 and uh and it's just getting worse so exactly you don't need a formal education in a school in the 0.97

03:16:06.280 public school system or a college degree my sister is i think a formal education is way way overrated it 0.99

03:16:12.600 is and what kids are being taught in school these days has very little to do with a proper

03:16:17.480 education and certainly they don't have the life skills that they should have to function in

03:16:22.360 society you know how to manage their money how to you know how to cook or like sew something like

03:16:28.280 these skills that you could use or how to work on a car like those tangible skills it's logic it's all

03:16:33.240 of those things that were that used to be taught to children yes but are no longer anymore because it's

03:16:38.200 not expedient i saw a video of this little farmer boy and he he was like spreading seed and he knew all

03:16:45.400 about the tractors and he was so well educated like that education he's he was so young but he knew so

03:16:51.720 much about farming more than i could ever hope to learn and that education comes from his parents and

03:16:57.080 that's what i'm saying like you can provide a good education this is this is the point we're at right

03:17:02.280 now with uh education with uh the state of the nuclear family all of these things have had a have

03:17:13.160 been affected dramatically by the input of a feminist agenda in our society yes i'm not saying it's the

03:17:19.400 only thing but a major contributing factor is pulling women out of the house yes and saying okay now women 1.00

03:17:27.560 don't have this job anymore all of a sudden someone needs to take care of those children let's send them

03:17:33.160 off to caesar and we wonder why they come back looking like romans yeah i i yeah i mean obviously

03:17:41.880 you guys can probably tell i'm not a feminist really yeah i know very surprised to tell but yeah i i think

03:17:49.080 if you do your own research into uh the history of just humanity in general yeah there are men are

03:17:57.880 stronger than women and therefore probably have a uh uh like more possibility to uh commit atrocities 1.00

03:18:07.640 but generally speaking men in the past valued women they valued their job immensely and they fought died

03:18:15.080 and provided so that their women could have that coveted job because men were built to do that they 0.93

03:18:21.960 love doing that that's patriarchy and patriarchy in its purest form protects those women that are 1.00

03:18:29.480 under their care just like there's a fine line between being a woman empowerment traditional feminist 1.00

03:18:36.040 as i like to call it versus a modern feminist there's also a fine line between being a you know part 1.00

03:18:42.200 of the patriarch and and founding fathers and protecting women and children and the vulnerable

03:18:46.840 population versus like misogyny there's like just a fine line that people are towing now in our

03:18:52.920 modern society day in and day out yeah like men and women throughout history those misogynists

03:18:59.400 those people who abused that system were far littler and it didn't it uh then we see with the feminist 1.00

03:19:07.640 agenda infecting the women in our society and men in our society i don't know if it's far littler i

03:19:13.400 think maybe that's debatable too yeah well i think just historically accurate because i mean you see

03:19:21.000 when feminism has been injected into our society all of these negative things have have come about

03:19:26.440 whether you want to say that that first wave feminism was a great thing it has led us to where we

03:19:32.280 are right now yes so we can't discount that feminism when it was introduced has led us to where we are 1.00

03:19:39.160 right well feminism is all about women seeking independence from men to have agency and control 1.00

03:19:43.720 over their own lives that does not do well to contribute to the nuclear family right like as 0.96

03:19:49.560 soon as you have that you have a woman who's not being submissive to her husband not trusting him to

03:19:54.120 lead and it's funny like for years my brother would say i know this nice guy i know that and

03:19:59.160 it's like i don't want a nice guy and i realized like i was seeking somebody that could lead somebody

03:20:04.200 i could submit to i just didn't know how to put it but uh yeah i agree i think and i think there's

03:20:10.120 a purpose to attacking the nuclear family and i think there's a purpose to like trying to make 0.96

03:20:14.280 us all dumber and it's so we're easier to control all right moving things along we're going to get into 0.76

03:20:20.440 the dating app segment of this so the first thing we're going to do we're going to actually do the not 0.97

03:20:25.720 the reaction to her profile first we're going to do the bumble segment okay nick if you can pull up

03:20:31.800 uh bumble and then so what we're going to do is we're going to go on bumble and you're going to

03:20:37.320 swipe on guys you get 20 swipes 20 swipes each so just a yes or no and uh that's pretty much it

03:20:45.400 do i uh put us on the other side do we have to keep track of our slides yeah all right so starting

03:20:53.880 with you no

03:20:57.880 what is he single wait yeah they're just they're just a bridesmaid uh yeah just yes or no on these go ahead

03:21:08.440 wait did you say no uh which one is no the previous one i don't even know which one i didn't even hear

03:21:13.080 anything yeah i didn't say anything we don't know which one they are these are all just put these

03:21:16.600 as automatic no's i guess or skip you can you scroll down yeah no we're just gonna do like first

03:21:23.880 impression no no no no no

03:21:33.080 uh yeah no no no no that's what i'd say are you yeah i would have said yes it's a couple of them

03:21:52.920 personal preference personal preference yeah you guys are older yeah yeah you have like five more

03:22:01.240 swipes okay no that's a good looking that would be a yes to me like that's what they're just like

03:22:08.520 they look old they look really well what's the oldest you would date um i'm 18 so probably 20 and

03:22:19.720 that's like pushing it because what's the oldest guy you've ever dated like 18 they're in high

03:22:27.000 school so no yeah uh keep it here nick can you get that maddie oh yeah go ahead keep going the

03:22:33.480 oldest guy i've ever dated was like a year older than me at the time sorry mason what

03:22:39.880 yes no oh no no no all right all right so how many that was like that was like 80 percent no's

03:22:55.640 i said two yes all right they're picky all right what about 90 oh wait was i supposed to be counting

03:23:00.280 along with her no okay no it's my turn okay maybe no i don't know it's a no no no what i i just

03:23:12.200 don't find that appealing all right okay all right okay all right all right oh wow yes he looks so

03:23:19.720 cool cool yes uh i don't know which guy but probably no no

03:23:31.480 in crocs i can't even see the face card no oh no sorry he was handsome you know

03:23:41.880 it's the pictures it's not even the guys it's the freaking picture i can't see him so i'm gonna say yes

03:23:46.920 yes yes yes yes to this guy uh yes to one of them

03:23:56.520 maybe i really can't see his face with the sunglasses and this guy looks like he's seven

03:24:02.040 eight feet long but uh i'm gonna say yes i talked to him yeah no he looks like he's risen up the camera

03:24:09.960 yes to this guy so i don't know how many that was i didn't count but um wait actually

03:24:16.920 before we move on we're gonna do a review of your oh great bumble profile great thank you

03:24:24.200 so nick if you get that and then we'll have everybody else do their swiping all right so this

03:24:29.320 is your bumble profile oh you ate there that's cute would you okay you ate it's cute oh thank you

03:24:35.800 thank you that's apparently my most popular photo i've tried to change it but bumble keeps putting it up

03:24:40.360 there so all right next can you read this for us i'm in santa barbara for a few days i'd love to hang

03:24:47.800 out with someone to explore santa barbara together i'm a happy healthy sober but fun canadian lady

03:24:53.880 anti-hook-up culture but make up for a great connection and making friends i'm five at four

03:24:59.240 active do you want me to read all that oh you're open to kids yeah open to kids yeah like i'd like to

03:25:04.840 have kids but if i don't at this age i mean okay i've dealt with it all right looking for a long-term

03:25:09.720 relationship yeah we'll just go through all of it next i love baking as you can see okay next

03:25:17.640 yeah next having the same values and goals knowing each other's boundaries mutual respect and defined

03:25:23.560 roles okay yep next actually working out that's no filter there you go

03:25:28.360 well no there's no filter still wearing mate well full makeup yes okay all right is that

03:25:36.280 i will put a no makeup one up just for you um i think there's one more but it has a filter some

03:25:42.280 of those have filters some of those don't go back to uh go back to the first one and then

03:25:49.080 i can do a side-by-side shot of what i what i don't look like i just want to make it out here so

03:25:54.520 okay there's the sb thing and then there's also go next one next next next hold on uh wait next

03:26:06.520 having the same values and goals knowing each other's boundaries when you say defined roles

03:26:11.800 what do you mean i prefer traditional gender roles i that doesn't necessarily mean like a guy is um

03:26:17.640 being a sole provider because honestly i'm not 20 i don't expect a man to do all of that for someone

03:26:24.120 who's 36 but um i certainly prefer a man who takes on a more leadership masculine role in the

03:26:29.960 relationship i'm very feminine nurturing caring that sort of thing why does that matter with age

03:26:34.760 i'm sorry um so on your profile you said you were looking for a long-term relationship given that you

03:26:40.840 do live in canada yeah correct and you said that you're in santa barbara yeah what were your intentions

03:26:46.200 behind so my intentions and my conversations were just that i don't know the area i was coming here for

03:26:51.960 four days i was hoping that someone would just be like willing to go out and make friends and i did

03:26:57.080 find someone and we just went out and had fun out like nothing romantic completely platonic that's

03:27:03.720 all i was looking for and i was really clear about it on the dating apps um i made it clear i'm here

03:27:08.600 for just a few days i really just want to explore the area with someone you still could meet the one

03:27:12.440 yeah and to be fair like a long distance relationship am i open i've always done lots of long

03:27:17.160 distance relationships i've dated people in many well not many states but like oklahoma north

03:27:22.120 carolina los angeles so i've done it um i'd prefer a local relationship but yeah if i met the right

03:27:27.880 person of course maybe there's another canadian here yeah you never know you never know but uh

03:27:33.640 yeah i also did try on the bumble bff to meet women locally who would like go out and do fun things

03:27:39.880 and i could not find one volunteer so i tried so i just really wanted to go out and have fun for the

03:27:45.400 few days that i'm here so yeah okay i know it's a red flag because you probably think oh she's

03:27:51.240 looking for somebody hooked up with but no i didn't and i wasn't well i mean if like you're

03:27:55.960 looking for a long-term relationship the process if you live in canada like what do you expect well

03:28:02.360 in that meeting a guy here like any girl who's like wants a long-term relationship but she's like

03:28:07.720 traveling and she's like i'm in town for the weekend yeah that to me is like well there is no long-term 0.98

03:28:13.720 potential at all so you either just want to fuck no i think that's your opinion i will i i would like 0.95

03:28:22.280 for what other reason i would support hers because we're in our 30s it's very different 0.99

03:28:26.760 we're not in our 20s like for us finding a life partner is very different than like in your 20s when

03:28:32.520 you're just exploring i am open to meeting the right person for me wherever on earth it doesn't

03:28:36.840 matter it doesn't matter to me and i'm not saying that's going to happen in this few days

03:28:41.000 but i don't know perception though i do not know how else to go out and meet somebody that i can like

03:28:47.320 go out with in a city i don't know like i walked around in sketchy ass areas passing drug deals and 0.64

03:28:53.880 like really scary things because i did not know where i was going i researched but it would have

03:28:58.440 been really nice to have you know somebody with me to make sure i'm not getting into that and just

03:29:04.280 like go to a restaurant with me you know whatever and i understand most people will not read it that way

03:29:10.040 but i was pretty clear well and i i grew up in a small town in arkansas like you know your neighbors

03:29:15.880 it's a small town you know whenever you go and travel you know sometimes you are like let me just

03:29:21.800 meet someone they're in the city you never know where there's a spark there's a kindle you get to

03:29:26.280 know each other even if it's friend zoned or whatnot and you get to know each other and then at some

03:29:30.680 point it doesn't have to be sexual you know just you're just meeting someone and uh but it's putting

03:29:35.640 yourself out there yeah putting yourself out there and like i never do it i never travel

03:29:40.360 and uh i will say in kingston ontario i am not finding my person so that's why i'm open to anyone

03:29:46.280 anywhere not anyone but like the one yeah i don't want to make it sound like your match yeah yeah yeah

03:29:52.440 wherever he is all right we're going to continue on with the uh bumble thing we'll have you do it

03:29:56.920 uh nick if you can pull that back up

03:30:02.520 it's tough we i feel like uh the the age thing like we'd have to adjust the age range

03:30:08.360 the filter because you're you're gonna get like 20 year old guys with here if i didn't know his

03:30:12.760 age though i'd still be like attracted to him like he's an attractive guy so maybe he's good looking

03:30:18.200 he's handsome if you guys just just so we don't have to tinker with it too much maybe next time on a

03:30:23.000 different panel we'll do it um just like envision him like either either make them younger or older

03:30:28.840 like just just cover the age honestly if he moves the picture a little bit more like our video then

03:30:33.880 we won't even see the age so yeah that would be a yes for me okay

03:30:40.440 no 0.99

03:30:43.320 no no fuck boy yes yes no no 0.99

03:30:53.560 i can't really see him but i'd say a yes if i could 1.00

03:30:58.200 no no

03:31:03.480 no

03:31:05.320 these guys oh no

03:31:08.840 police no no comparable you know no okay oh my god

03:31:16.280 no

03:31:16.680 i don't know which one it is but i'll just air on the side of no

03:31:23.800 jose jose jose yes

03:31:29.080 yes

03:31:31.880 no

03:31:34.200 no

03:31:34.520 next

03:31:36.440 uh do we just skip madison just i think you already did

03:31:39.240 yeah yeah all right uh well so we will go to you uh go ahead nick no

03:31:46.920 yeah he looks fun no no no no no yes

03:31:58.520 no oh okay all right yes

03:32:01.400 this one's a yes this one's a yes and the other one wasn't yeah no uh no he looks like

03:32:10.040 trouble uh yeah he seems chill yeah

03:32:14.280 yeah no no no be nice to gilbert no no

03:32:25.960 instruments are cool

03:32:26.840 no no yeah yeah that's it okay that was 20 okay what about you uh no no no

03:32:40.600 no no reminder just age them down if you have to yeah no

03:32:51.080 yeah how could you see him no i saw the nature and i'm like that's cool okay uh no

03:32:57.160 no no uh no uh no yeah yeah

03:33:07.880 no no no no yeah

03:33:15.640 no she likes the surfers yeah 1.00

03:33:18.360 oh she likes the fuck boys oh my god uh yeah see this is a sweet voice not a 1.00

03:33:24.680 whole thing yeah that's it that's it oh i want that one too 1.00

03:33:29.080 yeah too bad i think everybody told yes to that one 0.98

03:33:31.800 too bad um damn y'all picky okay i'm gonna pass all of them 0.97

03:33:36.520 well just i know you have a boyfriend no i told him i wouldn't do it okay that's 0.98

03:33:40.040 he didn't tell me to not do it i told him i'm not doing it all right

03:33:43.160 w girl that's fair okay so you want to you want to go again take five of hers yeah 1.00

03:33:47.480 yeah go for it uh yes she's like uh yeah

03:33:54.440 no what that was scary no yeah honestly

03:33:59.480 oh cool guys yeah

03:34:01.640 the whole friend group oh oh yes yes yes

03:34:07.000 that was fine all right 1.00

03:34:10.200 damn y'all picky shit okay i feel like they were a lot less picky than not not as picky as some other 0.99

03:34:15.720 people still still a little picky i saw some we should do this for you guys 0.99

03:34:21.080 uh-huh yeah for sure that's actually yeah we could it's a great idea you would probably be

03:34:26.760 extremely picky i would think you'd be surprised

03:34:31.880 well in what context like to sleep with or to to date you know it's two different things i don't i don't

03:34:39.400 sleep with girls unless i'm interested in dating them long term okay that's good yeah 0.91

03:34:44.760 good you are kind of picky though but i still think you're picky yeah he is picky and that's not a bad

03:34:49.880 thing like it in certain i'm actually not that picky looks wise well yeah personality so much

03:34:56.760 more picky on other that's what i'm saying i'm actually i don't think i am i like to say selective

03:35:02.200 not necessarily like picky yeah like picky has a negative connotation but it's okay to like know

03:35:07.480 what you want and to look for that and to say if this person is i mean you want it to work out

03:35:12.680 for the long haul you've got to be selective to some degree all right guys go to twitch.tv

03:35:17.560 slash whatever drops a follow on the prime sub if you have one twitch.tv slash whatever drop us

03:35:22.040 a follow on the prime sub guys we're trying to get to seven 70 000 followers on twitch and uh

03:35:28.680 yeah so drops a follow if you are watching over there the stream quality tends to be a little

03:35:32.520 better over there on twitch also i got reports that apparently the mute function nick could you pull up

03:35:37.240 the chat really quick there were a couple times i asked nick to mute it apparently it didn't mute it

03:35:43.960 i don't think we said anything bad but so chat uh yes or no was it was it muted yes muted no not

03:35:52.680 muted not muted didn't mute they just didn't say anything there was no mute they just wanted to

03:35:57.560 hear what did we say again oh never muted oh okay well we're gonna have to wait nick hit the button

03:36:05.320 really quick the mute testing testing testing testing testing okay on obs it still comes through okay we

03:36:12.440 gotta well nick the the other way you can do it well you undo it there um the other way you could do it

03:36:18.600 do you see on the left there there's the sound bar yeah uh there is yeah you can we're gonna do a test

03:36:28.040 mute and then you can take it off was it just muted there was it muted there we just just for practice

03:36:34.200 was it muted there i'm assuming it was muted muted muted yeah okay we're good okay that's it we're we're

03:36:43.000 good we're good boys by the way nick just just for your own self-knowledge uh i think the the attack

03:36:50.840 on you was visible in this area right here yeah yeah so i was thinking about that the reflection

03:36:57.240 it was in the reflection people can go back and look at it so it's kind of yeah so just letting

03:37:01.560 you like i feel like you could see if there's any question if she were to say no he he hit me or you

03:37:07.080 you know well we all saw it we all saw it we'll all be witnesses we all saw it all witnesses and it

03:37:12.040 was here and you were recording it so uh and the chat seems to agree indeed yeah she uh nick you

03:37:19.240 trying to press charges yes saw her swatch did anybody check if she's still outside no no no no okay

03:37:24.920 stop stop stop okay um moving on moving on um let's see here really quick i won't i don't want to

03:37:34.600 linger too long on this but i do want to go around the table and i'm actually i'm gonna start with

03:37:40.200 someone in particular we won't linger along on it because we've already talked about it twice but

03:37:44.840 the previous show when i wanted it to be the main topic of conversation it really didn't go over so

03:37:49.720 well uh have you guys seen the man versus bear thing man or bear okay oh yeah so the question is

03:37:56.760 would you rather be stuck in the woods with a man or a bear i want you to go first

03:38:04.600 and then we're going to go around the table like this and then we'll circle back to you so go

03:38:07.640 ahead all right go ahead it's a man or a bear would you rather be stuck in the woods with a man or a

03:38:15.480 bear a bear okay what about you yeah bear a man do you want us to explain why or no yeah we'll come

03:38:22.840 back to that a man probably a man um probably a bear oh okay got the friend group here and what

03:38:33.080 about you 100 a man okay so we got man man man bear bear bear okay did you only say that because

03:38:42.120 your two friends over here said bear and you feel like i can't go against my friends

03:38:45.720 i don't know honestly i just think that i would be able to outrun the bear

03:38:52.760 no you can't

03:38:53.320 no you can't you can't

03:38:54.680 taking her own runs

03:38:55.560 if i just like

03:38:56.520 you can't do that

03:38:58.040 like if i didn't provoke the bear

03:39:00.520 erroneous

03:39:03.240 i feel like if it didn't provoke the bear nothing would happen but like

03:39:06.920 that's not true

03:39:07.560 that's not necessarily i don't know i feel like men like a scary man is scarier than like

03:39:15.320 oh boy yeah but but you didn't but you didn't say you didn't specify what the intentions of the man

03:39:20.360 was yeah yeah well hold on like a regular man interesting with here's what's interesting to me

03:39:26.120 with this question no one is assuming wait hold on how do i want to frame this yeah um ill intent

03:39:31.800 of the man i'm assuming a baby cut everyone seems to assume the man is bad yeah like no one is

03:39:38.280 assuming the bear is good yeah so how do we not like what if we just apply let's say they're both

03:39:43.800 have bad intentions oh i'd rather get mauled alive than

03:39:49.080 i think i could i'd have better odds against fighting off a man yeah me too 100 you'd have better

03:39:55.320 and if i were to just walk into the woods alone and i came across a bear the fear that would go

03:40:00.200 through me compared to if i came across a man i scared if i came across to me i would be a little

03:40:05.960 off-put bears i'd be like oh there's there's something but if i saw a bear i would like i

03:40:11.160 would freak out i probably would say i feel like you can't reason with a bear you can reason with a

03:40:16.760 man i have better i have better i feel like the argument stems from like of the worst a bear can do

03:40:22.440 is like hit you more you like kill you but there's like so much more than a man can do like

03:40:26.440 not all men obviously but like a man with ill intent can do like before he kills you and i 0.61

03:40:31.480 think that's what goes through a lot of women's when they choose a bear first see i would feel like

03:40:36.200 if i'm in the woods i'm probably lost so i'm i'm gonna go up to that man and hope he can help me

03:40:41.480 find my way out zero survival skills if you're going straight up to a man in the woods well no but

03:40:46.360 uh the man we didn't say he's dangerous that's actually a great virus yeah probably great goal

03:40:51.000 for the wait we have a chat here would you rather be stuck in the woods with a man or sunglasses and

03:40:55.720 handle of jack feel scared for the imaginary pilot oh dang it i choose the man i over that yeah although

03:41:05.240 that would be a lot more i'm choosing the man um nick does that pull up a photo is it like just

03:41:12.200 the photo or is it also show the yeah perfect um one of my viewers wanted me to ask this one

03:41:20.840 this is just a fun thing um so this is the man let me know when you get it nick

03:41:26.760 oh so this guy or he kind of looks like a bear uh this guy with men to the offended

03:41:32.200 donated 200 no way you just said you cannot run a bear yeah they can climb trees too you ain't

03:41:40.040 escaping a bear i think it's more like if i'm gonna get killed by a man or a bear i'd rather be

03:41:45.720 killed by the bear really because of what the man do before he kills me yeah the man can get away

03:41:51.880 with it too well what if the man like a bear would wait question let's say the man doesn't want like

03:42:00.760 because it's like the assumption here is like they're gonna say you or whatever what if they

03:42:04.200 don't want to say you but they they do have like violent intention they want to kill you but they're 0.76

03:42:08.360 gonna like they're not gonna like torture you or anything they're just gonna like shoot you or

03:42:11.560 something would that be so you know for a fact the man would grid one motorsports donated 200 0.99

03:42:19.480 for fuck's sake you will never know the man was there he knows you will just be a drain on his 0.91

03:42:24.440 resources and and add nothing but warm and prattle so we'll hide and watch the bear get indigestion 0.99

03:42:29.560 into bear indigestion yeah i'd rather just get shot so the scenario is like the guy you know the

03:42:36.040 guy will shoot you or this bear is going to try to maul you you don't know he no he's the bear's 0.96

03:42:41.400 aggressive and wants to attack you yeah i would rather just get shot i'd rather get mauled by the 0.99

03:42:45.880 bear wait pull the photo up real quick i don't i don't really understand which guy this guy or the 0.98

03:42:50.200 bear i think it's a bear still the bear because the big i could run faster than that i'd rather my name

03:42:56.840 make headlines like oh that's mauled by a bear rather than killed by a man and i want to get

03:43:01.400 taken out by a man is like not in the best so bears older bears also they they don't they're not good

03:43:07.800 killing machines yeah they they're not effective so all they do well so they will yeah they eat you

03:43:15.720 alive yeah so most of their diet is fish um and fruit dead carcasses fruits uh sometimes it'll be

03:43:24.680 other animals but they're not very effective killing machines so they will eat you while

03:43:29.720 you're still kicking yeah and oftentimes people who get mauled by bears if they do die it's very

03:43:35.240 very later and if they survive they're ultra traumatized exactly it's rough yeah so yeah generally

03:43:41.400 for for this argument or this discussion uh it didn't really i don't think it got the point

03:43:47.720 across that it wanted to get across to me uh it just pointed out that uh a lot of people think with

03:43:54.200 their feelings and not with their head yeah i think there's also like a bunch of layers of mistrust

03:44:00.520 right we've seen so many negative things happen especially now that we have internet and had heard

03:44:06.120 all these stories about i think the negative things and things like that like it just naturally

03:44:11.720 inclines you towards i i also think the negative things are the things that come to the surface

03:44:17.480 way more than the positive things i think generally speaking that's news in general yeah yeah it's just

03:44:22.200 news in general i think men in general would rather protect a woman and bears in general could care

03:44:28.040 less yeah could not care what you're doing now let me ask you guys a question those of you who said

03:44:31.880 bear let's change the setting from woods to a 10x10 room does that change anything huh

03:44:38.840 i'm starting with you a 10x10 room 10x10 room does that change anything

03:44:43.320 how big is that 10x10 okay okay just think of this area this living room

03:44:50.760 oh my god that changes it yeah what's the answer is that the same man that you showed before same man

03:44:55.880 same thing what no no no it's just it's a it's a random man the man okay yeah i mean it it would

03:45:03.640 probably change it just because in that setting like there's really nowhere for you to go well

03:45:07.320 yeah i guess then yeah well in the forest arguably there would be nowhere for you to go well more

03:45:11.800 forest like because this this hypothetical like you run farther well my understanding i mean the

03:45:16.840 hypothetical would seem to indicate that you will make contact otherwise what if you don't make

03:45:23.400 contact in the hypothetical what would the issue be so in both scenarios you're making contact

03:45:29.240 if it's actually if it's like a man with malintent then i don't know but it's a random man if it's

03:45:34.840 random man is it random no i'm just kidding uh yeah it's a random man so they could be it could be for

03:45:41.480 example the random man the random man that generates could be your brother or father it could be

03:45:48.200 because it's right or it could be a good man well it's actually very it's more likely than not that

03:45:55.880 whichever random man you get is going to be a good man could be a skinny man oh my god then if he's

03:46:02.440 going to be a good man then i'll say man no no no hold on i know it's a random man there is the

03:46:08.200 possibility it could be a terrible but the probability is yes higher than what about you um i think going

03:46:15.160 into like when you first said the question i was thinking about which one would i rather be killed

03:46:19.080 by so in like this i guess i would change my answer like even in the woods i would say a man

03:46:25.000 and in the room i would say well even if you pick the bear it doesn't necessarily mean that you're

03:46:29.240 going to get attacked doesn't necessarily mean you'll be just the probability i don't know i feel

03:46:33.080 like there probably is a higher chance that i would be able to okay she's changing it up now okay

03:46:37.800 well just like i had thought about it i was like i don't i would rather be killed by the bear

03:46:42.120 but your gut instinct yeah so i was like gonna get killed like for sure like i'm getting killed 0.64

03:46:49.240 i'm not even sure if you'd want yeah even then if you'd prefer to be i think you're just misinformed

03:46:54.600 i think i don't know i feel like it's like we hear more go ahead sorry no you go ahead then you go

03:47:00.280 ahead go ahead i feel like we hear more like horror stories about like sexual assault and so that fear is

03:47:06.280 like ingrained in my head like i would never want that to happen to me but i don't hear about like

03:47:09.960 getting mauled by a bear much so yeah yes exactly i'm just like not well there aren't too many bears

03:47:15.000 in the city right yeah well like it's just not like one of my biggest right yeah but okay and then

03:47:21.160 you were gonna say kind of piggyback off of alyssa it's just kind of like um in the like initial like

03:47:26.760 or on tick tock when that question was like circulating it is more like about like the essay

03:47:31.160 and things that like would happen if it wasn't a man with malintent and then what would your decision be

03:47:35.880 but if it's like always like you said a random man and it could be good then all right switch

03:47:40.200 this is like a perfect situation because i had no idea what the reference was to so it was just my

03:47:45.880 inherent response but sounds like you ladies had some backstory to it and that impacted like your 1.00

03:47:52.760 actual response yeah well like when i saw it before like on tick tock or whatever platform it was on

03:47:57.320 that was like what a lot of like the responses was and then that would get me thinking like yeah i've

03:48:00.920 heard all these horror stories or i've had i think this is more of an oh it's more a negative comment

03:48:06.120 on like how uh our social media and how media in general portray men because the image that you're

03:48:14.200 getting of men is obviously pretty negative whereas generally speaking men are not like that they're

03:48:20.280 probably it's it's like we said it's more likely you'll meet a a kind-hearted man in in the woods than

03:48:26.920 you will a kind-hearted bear i do agree that i think that um the what gets pushed out in the

03:48:33.080 perspective of men is definitely negative and i think that's just because that's what like sells

03:48:36.520 more and gets more views um but yeah i think yeah do you feel like the reverse is also true like women 1.00

03:48:42.200 get a bad rap that just because they want maybe a financially stable secure man that's going to take 0.76

03:48:47.160 care of them now women are all of a sudden considered so you have to super like materialistic and 1.00

03:48:54.280 gold diggers and all that stuff so if we just put a blanket statement like for example let's

03:48:58.760 if we put men in this situation like would you rather i don't know if the bear thing is perfect

03:49:04.520 yeah i don't would you rather be in the woods with a bear or with like a gold digger well because

03:49:09.880 there's no threat there that's the thing so we have to find a natural yeah i know it would have to be

03:49:14.440 something else but would you would you agree that if men had this uh this uh prejudice towards women

03:49:21.880 being gold diggers would you agree that that's sexist would you would you agree it's sexist if 0.99

03:49:28.440 men had a prejudice against women that women were gold diggers is that sexist towards men yeah so 1.00

03:49:35.960 now women you mean no towards men uh or wait from men towards women would it be uh well would it be um

03:49:43.560 yes would it be a sexist view towards women yeah i or well would the men be sexist to have that prejudice

03:49:50.920 uh i i think it is yes because they're automatically assuming that the woman is not capable of harm

03:49:58.280 right like i think it goes the same way so are women sexist for having a prejudice against men for 0.96

03:50:05.320 viewing men as dangerous and unsafe and as predators sexism goes both ways that's that's all i was saying

03:50:11.800 sexism goes both ways i'd like to hear from the other girls here because it's not clear to me if women 1.00

03:50:16.040 are prepared to say yes i am sexist because i have this irrational fear of men and you might even argue

03:50:21.960 that it's irrational fear i i don't know for like for that i would say like for a long time i felt that

03:50:29.560 way i'm so glad i'm not dating donated two hundred dollars there's a bear it's clearly about to attack

03:50:36.760 you your choose your defense a six 130 pounds skinny sweet genuine average nerdy gamer or six five

03:50:46.520 plus 255 pounds murder convict covered in tattoos from head to toe good question uh which one number

03:50:55.560 one or two starting with you who would i want to defend me yes yeah um the larger man

03:51:07.720 i would wonder about the murder convict because maybe he has some great self-defense skills that's

03:51:13.160 what i'm saying just answer the question doesn't have to be that deep that's the answer that was my

03:51:17.800 answer just gerald donated 200 alaska here laughing at those that choose the bear outrun a bear i can't

03:51:27.400 stop laughing it hurts oh no maybe she did track no she did not she did not we went on a run before

03:51:34.840 and she could not do the right no she was she's bears are like a thousand pounds and faster than usain

03:51:40.760 bolt yeah like i i would i would choose the convict to defend uh the first one because he's probably

03:51:47.560 still strong enough to protect me yeah i'd say the first one yeah the 130 pounds skinny guy i mean

03:51:53.400 he's a man he's probably still strong enough to protect he's never from a pair of flight situation

03:51:59.240 i don't want to be murdered yeah because what happens no but they're defending you they're

03:52:03.880 defending you you're not just stuck with them yeah okay then the second one yeah i feel like i thought

03:52:08.120 about it came in the second one yeah i mean i still think the the six five guys gonna get 0.72

03:52:15.720 fucked up no yeah so i would pick the convict for a totally different reason i am gonna probably bet 0.81

03:52:21.880 that this guy's probably a little bit overweight and is not as gonna be as fast as me or as you guys 0.86

03:52:27.480 so all you have to do is just be faster than him that's true i actually would pick the convict so like

03:52:33.800 if the bear were to kill him like the bigger guy could like wear the bear out first yeah i don't

03:52:38.760 know about where he's bigger you'll maybe have time to get away if he's preoccupied yeah what about

03:52:43.160 you oh i said the convict after what you said because because also if he's bigger then the bear's

03:52:49.000 probably gonna want like the bigger meal right while he's like eating that guy i could like go for

03:52:52.200 it the convict yeah the what convict the convict okay all right i just don't get this whole uh i don't

03:52:59.240 i just think that the most gals that you're probably talking to don't really have like the 1.00

03:53:05.320 context the shy guys donated 214.82 the real question is would you be stuck with a bear or with

03:53:15.160 a woman and why is it the bear you gals never had a survival training i would say this should be 1.00

03:53:21.480 mandatory for everyone gustavo's hair roll i don't know if that makes any sense woman

03:53:29.240 but i did i did pose a question i did ask okay so if men's prejudice towards women being gold

03:53:35.400 diggers is sexist is women's prejudice towards men being broadly dangerous or unsafe is that a sexist 0.63

03:53:44.280 there's a degree of mutual sexism that happens i think from women though it comes from trauma 1.00

03:53:49.800 answer the question i i agreed with you earlier that yes it was let's get everybody's answer to

03:53:54.200 this starting with you yes yeah um i feel like it's also sorry i feel like it's also it's not

03:54:01.320 necessarily sex well i guess you can't say it's sexist because we have this one view for men but i

03:54:06.120 think it's engraved in our head because it has happened so much like if you with a woman who's a 0.99

03:54:11.240 gold digger she's might be trying to steal your money but she's not trying to like hurt you it's not 0.99

03:54:15.560 that we think that all men are like this it's that we have to take precautions to think a certain way 0.70

03:54:20.440 because it's happened so many times well i mean you can rationalize your sexism as much as you want

03:54:25.640 just like the southern states rationalized slavery yeah for a very very long time or any like regardless

03:54:32.360 regardless of the rationale it's it was still racist i understand so i guess regardless of your

03:54:38.360 rationale you can still like acknowledge that it's sexist yeah i'll acknowledge that it's sexist but i

03:54:43.560 think it has its reasons behind it okay yeah

03:54:52.760 i already said yes that's what i would have said you got into the mic sorry that's what i would have

03:54:57.720 said what she said yeah okay good talk i guess progress good talk uh there's one last thing we can

03:55:07.640 pull up really quick nick on this uh shout out to uh get that pulled up what's that private chat oh

03:55:14.600 okay oh i don't yeah yeah pull that up uh shout out to uh the tin man on tin men excuse me on instagram

03:55:23.800 pull it up when you're he did a little thingy put us on the other side uh make it bigger please

03:55:29.480 make this bigger one more yeah uh okay men or bear yet another thought experiment go next

03:55:42.840 all right so men have spent their entire adult lives being educated by dehumanizing social media

03:55:47.560 thought experiments and this time it's bears i guess they've done this before with other things next

03:55:53.720 no squirrel uh no that's fine women would you rather be stuck in a forest with a man or a bear i want 1.00

03:55:58.840 to say the man i really do but i can't shake the idea that i would be safer with a bear let the

03:56:02.600 latest viral meme asks if women would rather meet a man in a forest or a bear next

03:56:09.160 some people have even done mathematics to claim we would all be safer with bears it is however

03:56:13.720 dishonestly phrased question next every year women encounter thousands of men and following these

03:56:21.160 thousands of interactions around 0.9 of american women will be a victim of violent crime annually

03:56:27.720 that's from the u.s department of justice from 2020 next so perhaps a better question would be if you

03:56:34.360 swapped all 124 124 million american men fathers sons brothers friends and granddads with bears

03:56:41.080 would violent crime rates go up next yes it's because yes it's true 80 percent of violent crimes are

03:56:48.360 committed by men but it's also true that only 0.2 percent of american men are arrested for violent crimes

03:56:55.400 each year that's from the fbi next and if you like bears then here's another women are the primary 1.00

03:57:01.320 abusers of children in america and it's mother only 43 father only 27 so which would you rather so

03:57:08.600 leave your child alone with a woman or a crocodile next oh the answer the answer of course is the

03:57:17.800 woman because only a teeny minority of parents are abusive and the vast majority of women are 1.00

03:57:23.160 perfectly kind to children next so man or bear father seen identifying as a bear while entering

03:57:30.920 family court in the hope he receives less prejudice which would you choose so that's a great the 10 men

03:57:38.440 they're a great uh resource there on instagram uh some great stuff on that so i'll be sure to check

03:57:43.320 it out but yeah i mean it comes down a bit to like encounters right i mean you have to ask like per

03:57:49.480 encounter like think of all the men you've walked by that you've met that you've even hung out with

03:57:55.080 privately that perhaps maybe some of you have encountered terrible men it certainly may be the

03:58:00.680 case but if you were in the same scenario all you replace all those scenarios where you encountered a

03:58:07.560 man replace it with a bear and you can even distribute that proportionally to the type of bear because some

03:58:13.400 bears are more aggressive than others but if you were just you know whatever the distribution is you

03:58:18.920 know it's what 10 percent polar i don't know what the distribution is um

03:58:24.920 you get up by a bear i'm just saying the bear is the terrible choice

03:58:30.360 yeah no also on this if we were to place man with a racial or ethnic group would the question then become

03:58:40.200 racist

03:58:44.360 like racial ethnic group versus bear like would you rather be in the forest with

03:58:48.840 x racial like let's we'll just even say it's still a man but if you would you rather be in the

03:58:55.880 woods with a bear or a or a black man would that be a racist question it's both racism and sexism

03:59:05.720 right right well if it's racist it certainly has to be sexist too 0.97

03:59:09.480 well i'll just i'll ask you guys actually would you rather be in the woods with a bear or a black man

03:59:21.560 a bear when you asked the question the first time i i envisioned like a big like strong old white man

03:59:28.600 i did as well wait so you'd still pick the bear though yeah i initially said bear and it wasn't

03:59:34.600 because of the person's race it was because it would be because of their sex so okay no but i'm

03:59:39.560 saying hold on i know so the question is i've changed the question yeah would you rather be in the woods with

03:59:44.680 a bear or a black man bear i get i stick with bear still stick with a bear okay um i changed my mind about it

03:59:53.560 um okay this is the man so all right in the case it would still be i'm gonna we won't linger on this 0.87

03:59:59.640 for too long i'll give a couple other fun scenarios here uh what about a uh giant lesbian woman 1.00

04:00:09.080 does that change anything no do you what do you pick there bear still the bear yes what i choose her 0.99

04:00:14.920 oh wait am i getting the can you yeah okay would you rather be in the woods with a giant lesbian woman 1.00

04:00:20.600 she probably chops one no i'm sorry that's good or a bear bear um 0.99

04:00:31.960 the bear survival the bear okay all right i would like admit that this would be sexist but i would 0.98

04:00:37.880 say the lesbian woman okay the woman okay what about hold on um what about the gay man 0.99

04:00:47.240 a gay man no just like a gay man or a bear 1.00

04:00:54.520 gay man oh interesting okay yeah a gay man the gay man yeah i think the fear here is like the okay 0.97

04:01:02.600 well uh what about also include gay man to just man yeah that could be one of the right no that's 0.99

04:01:08.840 actually really good yeah that's a really good point honestly the random man could end up being a gay

04:01:14.040 man but also he could could it be like i understand your argument what about a

04:01:22.360 woman serial killer versus a random man do i do i is like do i know she's a serial killer 0.96

04:01:31.000 so or like she will be a serial well that yes you do know because i'm i'm asking the question but so

04:01:36.440 serial killer woman verse random man so you could get a man with bad intention but you could also get

04:01:44.280 a woman the woman fight her off does she have like a weapon or anything no no weapons she needs more 1.00

04:01:53.160 information i would go i would do the man because if i know 100 this girl's a serial killer i would 1.00

04:01:58.280 obviously go for the one the intention to be clear she wants to kill you i would want to kill her too 1.00

04:02:03.320 oh okay all right what about you i would say the man just because i know that this like woman has 1.00

04:02:09.880 killed other people before she's like capable yeah she wants to kill you she's gonna kill you 1.00

04:02:14.920 if she has a weapon or not the intentions of the man so i'm gonna give him like the 0.99

04:02:18.440 have you killed somebody i still take the woman guys i have trust all right 1.00

04:02:23.880 what if she's a lesbian serial killer 1.00

04:02:25.720 then she could say you and kill you yeah does that change anything still still the i could fight 1.00

04:02:33.320 her off what if she does jujitsu yes and i you know i had a i have a little bit of boxing experience 0.98

04:02:40.840 what about okay i just how about um what about a man who's dressed as a bear versus a bear

04:02:47.240 i feel there's gonna be obvious difference unless the costume's really good man what about you

04:02:55.320 the man why does the costume change it well they look the same i i guys by the way i have terrible

04:03:01.880 vision so i probably won't even be able to tell my vision is terrible um it's the man in the bear

04:03:10.520 costume is like okay yeah so man who's dressed as bear random man random man and okay furry i guess

04:03:16.760 yeah yeah but what kind of bear costume too you know

04:03:24.920 it makes me think twice just because i'm like does he have a mental instability because he's dressed as

04:03:30.040 a bear and is he really going to just like i agree with that he's gonna want to protect you yeah

04:03:34.920 just the man okay and then all right we're gonna move on uh really quick guys go to twitch.tv

04:03:41.480 slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you're watching over there appreciate it guys

04:03:45.640 uh let me do a couple of the chats uh bring it back to hold on can i have you read this one

04:03:54.760 woman chico choose the man let him have his way with you so when you inevitably run into a predator 0.95

04:04:01.320 any way you can expect him to take you take the hypothetical bullet and die protecting good wow

04:04:08.120 okay um thank you thank you nicolette uh i'll touch on that one too really quick actually uh 0.74

04:04:18.440 would you want a man that you were dating to sacrifice his life for you take a bullet for you 0.98

04:04:25.960 or no hold on let me reframe it would you not be willing to date a guy

04:04:34.040 who was unwilling wait hold on is this a double negative now i think so wait hold on would you

04:04:40.600 or would you not date a guy who was unwilling to say down the road uh say when you're in love you've

04:04:47.720 been dating for a while even married who would be unwilling to sacrifice his life for you say in the

04:04:53.800 hypothetical scenario he can take the bullet or you can take the bullet but he wasn't willing to take

04:05:00.200 the bullet for you would you date that man um i think i would expect him to protect me in that way

04:05:08.280 if we've been dating for a long time yeah okay like it would you so you would not date the guy who

04:05:16.520 was unwilling to take a bullet for you yeah but i wouldn't expect him to do that if we were only dating

04:05:21.480 for like a couple months you know okay like it's like something down the road okay so like a year

04:05:32.680 i don't think i would expect him to do that like sacrifice his life for me after dating for a year

04:05:39.160 i would want him to but i wouldn't expect it hmm i wonder let me ask you a follow-up question

04:05:49.000 he doesn't have to sacrifice his life but he does have to do something and in order to protect you

04:05:57.320 he ends up with a um not it wouldn't be a life or death scenario but he ends up with

04:06:05.480 uh is it is this one out of focus nick the one that's on her i'll change it uh

04:06:11.640 i'm trying to think he like a disability yeah like i don't know he like vegetative or he loses a

04:06:21.720 he loses a leg yeah what what's the question he loses he loses a leg to prevent you from losing a

04:06:31.400 leg leg for life and what's the question yeah i don't know like there's like would she continue

04:06:38.120 dating him even though he's disabled is that what you're saying there's a car coming there's a car

04:06:42.120 coming and like you're in the street and had if he doesn't grab you move you out of the way your leg

04:06:47.640 gets crushed but if he grabs you and moves you out of the way his leg gets crushed what's the question

04:06:54.280 so which if the guy was unwilling to do that would you date him like to make that sacrifice god this

04:07:01.480 i don't know if this makes sense um what do you mean no it wasn't your fault go ahead and answer the

04:07:09.160 question that's like a hard question i i would be willing to date him still yeah

04:07:20.920 uh well you're saying like we're in love yes i would be willing to date him

04:07:24.440 if he wouldn't no way if he wouldn't yeah i that's i really don't care that much about that

04:07:31.880 i mean of course like it's a nice thought that he would like you know die for you or whatever but

04:07:37.000 like i would do the same for my family i if he doesn't want to i i just it's not on my top priority

04:07:43.400 i guess so like you would date someone who would sit there and watch you get your leg destroyed or

04:07:47.960 mauled by and not attempt it's just literally for that reason exactly because i know i would

04:07:53.960 do the same thing i would not be dating that person anymore like if you're not the same dedication and

04:07:59.560 like to save me so or whatever we save each other i don't know i just think in that kind of a

04:08:05.320 situation like people have all kinds of different reactions and do you have a problem with me like

04:08:11.800 speaking no because she she went into the same she went into her reasons you guys are asking me

04:08:17.480 questions so i just will not answer anything that's fine no just okay i answered my question

04:08:22.520 yes i would be willing to date him still i said that if he wasn't willing to take a bullet for you yes

04:08:28.120 i said no you wouldn't okay i wouldn't be willing to date someone who isn't willing to take a bullet

04:08:33.640 for me because i don't think willingness has to do with like capability if that makes sense like

04:08:41.800 say like in my relationship i appreciate that frankie and i would both be willing to die for each

04:08:46.680 other but when it comes to in terms of capability like we've discussed that he'd be more capable

04:08:54.200 to be mentally stronger to live on and take care of our children

04:08:59.080 if that makes sense i don't know if that makes sense but

04:09:03.160 i feel like i wouldn't if i was in a place where i felt like i would be willing to take a bullet for

04:09:07.880 them and they weren't willing to take a bullet for me then we wouldn't be at the same level of i

04:09:12.200 guess love or dedication to one another so i would stop i would i wouldn't take a bullet for

04:09:17.640 someone personally so i wouldn't expect it or you wouldn't i wouldn't so i wouldn't like you wouldn't

04:09:21.800 expect it i wouldn't expect them to do it for me okay and you want to be a cop

04:09:24.680 i would not date a man that's not willing to sacrifice any and at any of those levels for me

04:09:38.760 and i think my boyfriend day one would have still jumped in front of a car or whatever he walks on

04:09:44.840 the side of the street that's closer to cars i expect that um with reciprocated okay honor and

04:09:52.120 respect to him yeah but see like i so the reasoning for the boyfriend walking closer to the side of

04:09:59.160 the road is what protection is sidewalk rule from a car he's the one that's what so okay you would

04:10:05.960 want the van drives up to you and snatches you because you're on the side of the road okay

04:10:10.040 or if someone runs he's in between me and the thing that's most likely to cause harm so you'd

04:10:14.200 want the guy to like get run over by the car versus you he'd be in a better position to protect you from

04:10:18.440 that i want the sacrifice of him getting run over instead correct correct obviously i would hate

04:10:24.520 that but i wouldn't want to be with a man who wouldn't do that now going back around this way to

04:10:28.760 the table do you think it would be like less attract maybe uh you would still date the guy but would

04:10:34.920 it be less attractive and would he be less masculine if he was unwilling to sacrifice his life

04:10:42.200 for his girlfriend wife whatever it may be yeah that's unattractive no don't care at all okay yeah 0.94

04:10:49.400 i think it'd be less attractive less attractive i think it would be less masculine actually i don't

04:10:54.280 know because like it doesn't make me more masculine that i'm willing to take a bullet for

04:10:59.560 the person that i love doesn't it it was attractive or not attractive

04:11:02.360 yeah yeah sure it's unattractive but i don't think it's like you should expect it from like

04:11:08.440 the start yeah of dating it's less attractive

04:11:15.640 i don't know if you heard the question what was the question uh would it be a man who is unwilling

04:11:21.240 to sacrifice his life for you is it would you view him as less attractive or less masculine

04:11:27.000 maybe slightly not fulfilling his role um as like a protector but i i don't know i

04:11:37.240 maybe because i've been independent for so long i take on that role more myself so i just don't see

04:11:42.120 it as like a deal breaker but yes maybe a little i don't see myself ever being in the position to like

04:11:50.360 sacrifice my life for a man so i feel like it's kind of a double standard to expect him to do that for

04:11:56.200 me if i'm not willing to do it for him so at the end of the day like i don't see that as less

04:12:02.760 attractive okay fair enough fair enough i don't know if we go full into this condo here if i reveal

04:12:10.520 my position on it yeah we youtube video the tweets are out because well you can yeah um we're not going

04:12:21.160 to do the youtube video was there something else we were going to pull up i'm trying to remember

04:12:26.840 nah uh we need to do well i mean on this note um

04:12:33.880 i think it's actually so if you're a woman and you're like a traditional woman and you want a guy

04:12:38.840 to protect you i think that's totally valid but if you're not a traditional woman you can't be demanding 0.97

04:12:43.400 a man to be you can't be like upset if a guy wouldn't be willing to uh risk his life not risk

04:12:51.240 his uh life for you yeah even if you would do the same for him but like it's crazy to me because like

04:13:00.360 those of you who answered bear like you'd want a guy to you'd want your boyfriend to sacrifice his life

04:13:05.880 for you but y'all pick bear over man well this is your boyfriend that like you love and like you're

04:13:11.640 devoted to and it's not a random yeah exactly not a random man i would go as far to say that i would

04:13:16.360 expect a man on a first date to act in that way so to sacrifice his life on a first date on a very

04:13:21.480 first i would let me ask you a question explain a bit further but i'll i have a follow-up like i would

04:13:26.920 expect a man to step in and be a protector in any scenario if that even if it means losing his life

04:13:37.400 on the first date yeah interesting now let me ask you a question though so we heard from her earlier

04:13:43.880 that she went on 30 dates in one uh in one month time she sometimes she even went on two dates in a day

04:13:50.680 um now do you think that a man knowing that you know for example let's say she she went on a date

04:13:58.920 with a guy it was the lunch date and that man knew that right afterwards she was going on a dinner date

04:14:05.560 that very night with a different man do you think that a man in that situation should sacrifice his life

04:14:13.000 for a woman who's dating multiple other men at the same time um i don't think it necessarily has to

04:14:19.720 do anything with like a romantic relationship it's more of a man's role in a man's um oh so

04:14:26.920 he should do it for a stranger even yes a man should even sacrifice his life for a total stranger yes

04:14:31.640 let me ask you a question you're in a relationship right yes uh your boyfriend would it be

04:14:38.040 i'm so glad i'm not dating donated two hundred dollars if i was married to a hormonal 0.97

04:14:44.200 raging entitled non-submissive three hundred and four if someone attacked us and it was life or 0.99

04:14:51.000 death i would shoot her in the chest so the attacker didn't have to live with the pain 1.00

04:14:56.760 okay that makes a lot of sense so you had thank you i'm so glad i'm not dating good to see in the 0.99

04:15:01.400 chat if you had a boyfriend or you sir excuse me you currently have a boyfriend yes you've been dating

04:15:06.920 for 1.5 years you would want let's say you do you want to have children with this guy one day

04:15:14.520 let's say you have kids right would you want him to potentially in let's say he saw some conflict

04:15:19.240 going on and he was going to do the heroic thing try to get involved he actually ends up dying by

04:15:23.640 trying to break up this conflict try to say it was a woman he was trying to save a woman would that be

04:15:28.760 worse or would that be better or worse for your family for him to go and die but do the heroic thing

04:15:34.840 um it'd be heartbreaking but i actually you would and i'm very confident that he would do that you

04:15:42.440 would but you would still well let's fine let's say he would do that so he's in the service

04:15:49.640 that's another point like military people are doing that every single day for strangers and that's

04:15:54.680 kind of like the one of the talking about a different context here but so that would no we

04:16:00.920 would not be better off without him okay that's the answer but you would still desire for him to do

04:16:05.720 that i think for the protection of someone else yeah i think that that is a heart level commitment

04:16:16.600 and thank you during huh i'm thinking somebody don't worry about it okay um yeah i just i think that

04:16:24.120 that that would be what would happen and i know that and so hopefully lord willing that never

04:16:30.600 happens but i know that going into our relationship that that's the kind of man that he is he would

04:16:35.640 so just going like accepting that you know i'm also accepting him going to fight if he has to

04:16:41.400 for our country for people who don't give a rip about what he's fighting for so where's your boyfriend

04:16:46.200 deployed is he deployed you said he's in the military yeah he has been where was he was he in

04:16:52.040 afghanistan i'm not sharing information okay but yeah is he really def i mean is he really

04:16:59.000 defending i don't i don't think i need to have a military company yeah i don't i don't want to share

04:17:03.800 more information but he's definitely been in dangerous situations and but okay on the micro

04:17:10.600 level i absolutely like support individual soldiers on the macro level frankly a lot of these wars that

04:17:17.240 we're involved in have absolutely nothing to do with the defense of america or the people of america

04:17:23.640 we've wasted i don't know was it trillions of dollars in the middle east for what we were in vietnam for

04:17:30.280 what we get we were involved in all these conflicts for what so it's not clear to me at least in more

04:17:37.080 modern military conflicts if uh these men are really protecting

04:17:46.120 well at least that's the idea that they're given right that's what are they protecting the nation

04:17:50.360 or hold on or i'm sorry sorry here mason yeah or but or is it in the interest of the oligarchs

04:18:00.280 and the people that have you know the military industrial complex who have an interest in you know

04:18:06.040 there's financial component yeah there's i think what she was speaking to is the sentiment behind

04:18:10.840 it and there's so many things that i would say are like amazing about the military but

04:18:15.640 i do respect so much our country in the way that we are protected in a general sense i am not saying

04:18:23.960 it's perfect by any means and i don't really want to like dive deeper into that but i'm really

04:18:29.240 really really grateful no but i think look on the micro level the soldiers i think they all have

04:18:34.520 good intentions and that's what they want they want to protect their nation they want to protect

04:18:39.160 you know but i think the military conflicts on the macro level that we find ourselves in

04:18:45.000 it doesn't really now in the future we could be we could be involved in something a righteous war

04:18:51.480 i mean there's some debate there but i'm not the most the more recent military conflicts i'm like

04:18:57.880 are we just really brutalizing these people in these countries i don't know i don't know if you

04:19:04.040 want to weigh in on this mason i mean you're joining the military yeah so i guess speaking to uh more

04:19:10.360 recent conflicts the experience that has been i guess relayed by the people who've been over there

04:19:18.040 the enemy that we were fighting in most of these recent conflicts mid in the middle east were

04:19:23.640 absolutely like monsters of human beings so i mean like hanging dead corpses into the in the streets

04:19:31.640 and uh there was oh gosh well i can't remember his name one of um i hate i hate that i don't 0.51

04:19:38.520 know saddam hussein not saddam hussein it was like his um uh his underling what is his name he was he was

04:19:44.760 like a more active in the uh terrorist scene he was like the uh one of the main leaders you're not

04:19:51.080 talking about bin laden are you no no no not bin laden uh no it wasn't saddam's underling it was

04:19:57.480 i think he was associated with bin laden i cannot remember his name for the life of me but anyway

04:20:02.600 just absolutely uh probably tortured and killed hunting tens of thousands of people so um i mean

04:20:09.720 there there is yeah okay there are uh motivations by people in our government that are not

04:20:16.280 not altruistic and great but there is very good work being done and especially um the uh the part

04:20:24.760 of the military that i want to go into the special warfare community uh the vast majority of those guys

04:20:31.560 are like men's men usually pretty conservative traditional guys who they get sent on the missions

04:20:39.400 where they are protecting a whole lot of people that do not have protection uh i that speaks very true

04:20:46.520 to what i want to do i want to be that kind of guy i want to have that kind of training um especially for

04:20:53.000 the future fight when our vision is now set on china russia um yeah two nations that are very opposed to

04:21:04.680 america in general how we prioritize freedom over security uh but to i'm just gonna move it on i'm

04:21:13.720 just gonna move it on but i mean just to bring it back to the original question was so like for

04:21:17.400 example how she's going on 30 dates with you know you went on 30 first dates if i recall correctly in

04:21:22.360 a while i did yeah yeah you went i was meeting people you occasionally went on right but like let's

04:21:28.040 let's phrase it correctly though i was meeting people they were first dates i wasn't dating multiple

04:21:33.160 men like a serial dater okay fine that's what you're like you know some of the men you're

04:21:37.800 posturing no well it's kind of i mean i was this characterization is a bit we're not yeah you're

04:21:43.560 kind of like weaponizing information how am i weaponizing it's like it's it's making it out to

04:21:49.720 be like this like these women that are dating all of these men all at one time and should men really

04:21:55.160 even be like protecting them and you know i i'm of the opinion yeah like a man that i met for a first

04:22:01.000 date i have no expectations of him i could be a perfect stranger you know to to him and vice versa

04:22:06.760 right so the i mean the point i'm arguing though the point i'm arguing though is that like as a woman

04:22:12.920 in order for you to be to feel like you're entitled to this extreme sacrifice on the man's part

04:22:20.920 uh i think you should be trying to move in like a so okay men's hold on you asked me about my early

04:22:27.240 date i don't think so but hold on but we can get back into that but so there's so a man willing to

04:22:34.120 sacrifice his life for a woman would be the ultimate form of chivalry there is no greater 0.61

04:22:39.800 sacrifice a man can make than to lay down his life for a woman so what is the so okay if there's this

04:22:47.000 expect excuse me expectation on men to be chivalrous there ought to be a corresponding expectation on

04:22:53.640 women to be ladies and i would argue in order to be a late a respectable lady to be deserving of a man 1.00

04:23:02.760 to sacrifice his life for you you certainly can't be dating multiple men at the same time even going

04:23:10.520 just on first multiple first dates so in this scenario with her if i was on a first date with a woman 0.87

04:23:17.880 and i was inclined to sacrifice my life for a woman i would advise a man that it would be ludicrous to 0.99

04:23:23.880 sacrifice your life for a woman who has a date planned with another man right after you you're 0.90

04:23:31.080 not getting you're gonna do the ultimate chivalrous thing die for her and she's gonna see another guy 1.00

04:23:39.720 later that night that would be crazy to me but under your uh your framework you think a guy should die

04:23:45.400 for a woman who's gonna go date another guy that night is that your position so just answer the

04:23:50.680 question do you think he should still die under those circumstances yes can i give more info

04:23:57.880 so your answer is yes yes go ahead okay so i also to put it into more of like my mindset is um

04:24:05.720 like we do this whole i had this whole you know epiphany kind of thing in college we had this like

04:24:10.120 active shooter um scenario training in one of my classes and they talked about like how you i mean

04:24:19.080 basically like you should be willing to jump on that shooter the man the men no just anyone so i

04:24:24.920 would i was thinking through they're like whoever's closest to the door they're coming in the door

04:24:28.200 the best way to stop the active shooter is to attack that person and so i was like dang like that

04:24:33.000 is crazy like that's such a challenge like i don't know if i could do that blah blah but like

04:24:36.440 it really got into my head and i thought about it a lot and i'm like man i could i could protect the

04:24:42.040 other people that are there i'm the closest person there like what am i gonna do like that is this

04:24:46.040 isn't really relevant i'm just saying that i would want to do the same thing so the man no matter who

04:24:51.960 the girl's going on a date with afterward he should still should still do it because if i were in that

04:24:57.160 position i'm not going to be like wait are you a felon wait like are you yeah whatever you can't know

04:25:01.320 everybody's history wait so do you hold yourself to that same stage right but like let's let's zoom

04:25:06.840 out yeah and like let's let's just actually analyze it if we know all the facts should a man here i'll

04:25:13.880 just i'll just give you the extreme example and see where like see where there's logical consistency

04:25:19.080 here let's assume that man's going on the first date with a girl and she's currently sleeping with

04:25:23.400 three other men if we're zoomed out and we're doing an analysis on that situation should the man then

04:25:29.800 sacrifice his life for a woman who's currently having sexual intercourse with three other men 0.98

04:25:34.840 i think that's kind of insane let her answer the question 0.98

04:25:40.680 she's coming from an unbiased place she's coming from a place of human to human yeah like she's not

04:25:45.800 putting labels or you know you're putting a label on the man that he needs to act in a certain way he

04:25:52.520 needs to sacrifice his life i'm putting the we sacrifice our lives as women too by having children 1.00

04:25:57.800 child okay that's we have one of the highest like maternal death we're getting into a logical

04:26:03.240 fallacy here that's a it's not a fallacy yes what about ism what about us women who have to 1.00

04:26:09.240 sacrifice in this other way that's totally unrelated to the scenario i'm giving it's life

04:26:13.880 still many women die in childbirth of all the men that you've had first dates with did you have

04:26:18.840 children with every single one of those men no and i also didn't sleep with every single one of

04:26:23.720 those men and i also didn't right but she's making the argument that a man even on the first date

04:26:30.280 he should sacrifice his life for that woman she's coming from an unbiased perspective

04:26:37.320 that i'm not really following but so even in the scenario i painted the woman is sleeping with three

04:26:43.000 other men should the man lay down his life for that woman i think a respectable man still would so okay so

04:26:49.000 and is a man sacrificing his life for a woman chivalrous yep okay so why do you have this why do

04:26:57.160 men have to be chivalrous for i would would you agree with me that a woman who's currently sleeping 1.00

04:27:03.720 with three men and going on a first date with this new guy would you consider that the the uh

04:27:09.640 what's the right word the there's no there's not chivalry there's not chivalry yeah there's not

04:27:15.640 chivalry for one would that be ladylike of her no so are women who are not ladylike deserving of 0.99

04:27:20.920 chivalry yes why because i believe in grace and i also like but why wouldn't women have grace for

04:27:27.640 men in that scenario that's crazy because you're you're literally saying well men should have grace

04:27:33.240 for women and men should have this role in society where it's their natural inclination to provide and 0.98

04:27:37.560 protect and and lay down their life when there's no expectation on the women to do the same to have 0.67

04:27:43.640 i have expectations for women i like i have expectations for everyone in this scenario in

04:27:48.920 the scenario no go ahead no in this scenario she's sleeping with three men so she's not 0.96

04:27:54.920 meeting that expectation and yet there is the expectation on the man that's what i'm saying

04:28:00.120 and i agree with this point listen there's a lot of things i don't agree with but i totally agree with

04:28:03.800 the fact that you cannot expect a man to be a gentleman if you are not behaving as a lady and i have

04:28:09.560 learned that lesson the hard way so you believe in she's asking for it kind of things like like if

04:28:15.960 she because you're like are you talking about essay like you're like oh if she's not acting like a

04:28:20.680 lady then a man doesn't have to act like a gentleman that has nothing to do with that okay

04:28:25.240 it's extreme take it's extreme take but anyway you're warping i know you're completely warping

04:28:29.240 what she said okay she asked a question i'm sorry but that's a crazy question to ask based on what i

04:28:35.240 am saying that's like such a far leap so if she's sleeping with three guys you think she deserves 1.00

04:28:39.640 to die what i never said she deserves to die but in this scenario there's a car coming okay i'm not

04:28:45.240 saying that she doesn't expect a chivalrous man she shouldn't expect him why would a man give up his 0.99

04:28:50.520 entire life his his existence on this beautiful planet for a woman who doesn't give a shit enough to date 1.00

04:28:56.920 only him that's crazy i'm sorry i i believe you so i so i agree with you like personally i would give my 0.97

04:29:04.600 life for one regardless no mason well no no it's because i'm a man of extreme conviction yeah but

04:29:14.040 most men are not men of extreme conviction it's very much like why would i why would i be chivalrous

04:29:21.080 to a woman who is not going to be a lady for me like it there is so much effort that's being put on

04:29:27.800 me so much expectation as a man but there is very little expectation upon a woman and listen i

04:29:34.440 think a man if he is following the true like traditional masculine path i think he should

04:29:39.480 have the inclination but he should have the self-respect to know like hey i'm not being

04:29:43.800 treated with reciprocity here there is not a woman who is meeting this expectation as a lady and 0.99

04:29:49.400 therefore that's insane to give up my fucking existence on this beautiful planet for a woman 0.99

04:29:55.160 who doesn't give a shit about me that goes both ways and he should have the inclination but that 0.98

04:30:00.200 doesn't mean that it's right for him to do it listen i feel all the time i think of these active 0.98

04:30:05.000 shooter situations i feel like i jump in front of a bullet for fucking anybody because i'm a caring 0.98

04:30:09.080 nurturing loving person but i'm telling you when it's on a date like i don't understand why women 1.00

04:30:14.280 are expecting men to open doors pay the bill and show up and do all these things when women are out 0.99

04:30:19.800 there texting 5 000 men at the same time setting up all these different dates and sleeping with all

04:30:24.440 these different okay but let's not demonize women men are doing it too like i said we're not 0.97

04:30:29.640 we're talking we're not right open the door is not that serious men are dogs listen men are dogs 0.66

04:30:35.560 too but we're talking about in this scenario the expectation that's on men versus women we're not

04:30:41.560 talking about how men i know men who've slept around listen every time that i slept around with

04:30:46.040 a man there was a man waiting right there to exploit my brokenness so yes i know what you're saying

04:30:50.280 but what i'm saying is i didn't act like a lady so they didn't act like gentlemen and i shouldn't

04:30:54.600 have expected them so then you feel like you deserved it because of that or what i think that i

04:30:59.160 i think that i was not behaving in a way that if you're not if you're not a lady why do you

04:31:04.280 you're not going to be treated like a man to be a gentleman yeah that's it don't aren't obligated

04:31:09.160 it's wrong life for strangers and they're not obligated to open doors and do all these things for you 1.00

04:31:13.800 they do it because they want to do it for a lady who who cares for them who is willing to put in the

04:31:18.920 same effort on her end maybe in a different capacity because she's a woman and not a man 1.00

04:31:23.960 but i'm saying it's supposed to be a mutual thing here it's not supposed to be men do this amazing

04:31:28.600 chivalrous thing all the time and take care of us and treat us well and and and yet women can do 1.00

04:31:34.440 whatever the hell they want i don't think i don't want to propose that either though i don't think

04:31:38.680 that it's been shifted towards though i think it's just crazy that you can sit here and say that

04:31:46.200 there there would be an expectation on a man to def to sacrifice his life ultimate chivalry for a

04:31:54.120 woman who's just totally degenerate who's a total degenerate who's not a lady who's not moving in a 1.00

04:32:03.320 traditional way who's currently having sexual intercourse with three other men how like i don't 0.99

04:32:09.240 understand the logic like he should have the inclination as the man like yes i have this inclination

04:32:14.680 as my natural masculinity i do want to provide and protect but like if we are never going to

04:32:19.800 progress as a society if we don't look at how both of us have a responsibility to act in a certain way

04:32:25.720 towards one another you can't expect something from one gender do you want to respond to anything

04:32:31.640 yeah i mean i just i get like i see i see your point of view it's unfair i think and i just okay i

04:32:39.960 yeah i see your point of view jesus walked this planet and literally went and talked to prostitutes

04:32:48.680 tax collectors all of the sinners in the streets right yeah and he did not hesitate to die for all

04:32:55.880 of humanity yeah so this is if you guys are talking about like christianity biblical values things like

04:33:01.560 that where literally you know but jesus didn't marry the prostitutes and he he saved them through

04:33:08.280 great we're not talking about anybody marrying anybody right if you didn't if you didn't jump

04:33:12.120 in front of a car with this relationship scenario if you didn't jump in front of a car i wouldn't i

04:33:16.680 wouldn't like hold that against you you know like i still my point what about the bullet the bullet the

04:33:21.720 bullet if you didn't jump in front of the bullet for some random girl you just went on a date for 0.98

04:33:25.400 i wouldn't be like that you wouldn't be dinged as a man yeah i would just be like that's a crazy

04:33:30.440 situation a lot yeah a lot of women do want a man who'd be willing to sacrifice themselves for them 1.00

04:33:37.480 and i do too but i wouldn't right i i just wouldn't like berate you for that decision if you didn't

04:33:44.760 right jump in front of a car a bullet or whatever would it change if that man's like your dad or your

04:33:49.960 brother i would expect my dad if my dad didn't jump in front of a bullet yeah i wouldn't expect i

04:33:56.280 i wouldn't expect a boyfriend but i would expect my dad yeah yeah exactly it ultimately just comes

04:34:01.160 down to this right so i get your point though i really do right so there's you have non-traditional

04:34:07.000 women who demand and expect and feel entitled to traditional treatment from men now the bullet one's 0.99

04:34:14.760 an extreme example although there's even non-traditional women who are prepared to demand the ultimate

04:34:20.120 traditional treatment the ultimate sacrifice for men but on a more realistic scale you'll have

04:34:25.480 non-traditional women who demand men be generally be protectors generally be providers pay for first 1.00

04:34:32.440 aids open car doors be chivalrous but they're not the there's no reciprocity there they're not doing

04:34:39.000 anything traditional so that's kind of my criticism is that you have this demand that men be traditional

04:34:46.440 but y'all want to be modern women y'all want but you're throwing general like i feel like those are 0.93

04:34:51.800 outliers too no it's not no it's not it's actually not an outlier because look at how many people say

04:34:56.760 they're feminist and then and then they still want a man to pay for the first date like that's that's 1.00

04:35:01.560 if you are a feminist why are you not splitting the bill it does not make a lick of sense you have 1.00

04:35:06.200 traditional women that do want traditional treatment from men but on top of that you have a 0.97

04:35:10.840 whole bunch of modern women who are not traditional at all that still want the exact same things they want 1.00

04:35:17.320 all the traditional treatment from men i have a question though okay go ahead why are generally

04:35:24.120 speaking men feeding into this culture of these modern feminists by subscribing to their only fans 0.95

04:35:32.840 by sending them money by opening by opening their doors by doing all of these extra things like that's

04:35:39.560 also a challenge being a more traditional independent woman and being out on the date scene

04:35:46.040 but how do you how do you get to know them without going and on a first date like you gave me a lot of

04:35:51.320 heat about being on like 30 different yeah 30 different first dates but how do i get to know

04:35:57.000 somebody if i don't meet them you can talk to them for like a day on an app i've told you i talked to them

04:36:02.200 on an app and they're completely different in the virtual realm than they are that's something you do

04:36:06.760 you can do it one person at a time and it's totally it is one person at a time but i'm getting

04:36:10.920 well within a month if there's 30 people it's not one it was in the beginning of my day so passing

04:36:15.800 judgment first of all it's just bad i i'm allowed to share my thoughts and opinions whether you like

04:36:21.960 it or not okay but you're not supposed to butt in either and let me just like share my view so how are

04:36:28.360 you supposed to actually meet yeah so how are you supposed to actually meet people without meeting

04:36:32.760 people like i get it hard to date one person at a time so going back to your whole 30 dates but it's

04:36:38.360 not like dating all of those people consistently can we all agree that modern dating is not like

04:36:43.800 when you say you're dating someone exclusively or even to get to know them that's you're serially

04:36:49.080 dating them if you're just putting yourself out there and starting to meet people and see who you

04:36:53.400 can possibly have a match or connection with you're meeting them it's not different than going to a

04:36:58.840 church event at multiple different churches and meeting different people how is that any different

04:37:03.320 okay so explain that phenomenon to me you're specifically you're meeting people okay you're

04:37:08.120 creating opportunity to meet someone and speak to them modern dating though and then you're saying you

04:37:12.040 expect traditional treatment so like the whole point is you're participating in the modern date modern

04:37:17.080 dating we're all participating in modern dating because guess what we can't not be in the modern

04:37:21.480 dating scene because it's modern day today there's plenty of people that don't move like that

04:37:27.480 that that aren't like right going on that aren't going on 30 date first dates in a month if i was

04:37:34.040 if i was encountering a girl and she's like brian i have a date planned for if i was on a date with

04:37:38.680 her on saturday brian i have a date for sunday monday tuesday wednesday thursday i'd be like well

04:37:42.600 obviously that's not how you deal with that kind of okay so then what if you go to a mixer what if

04:37:47.880 you go to a mixer at church for example and there's 30 women there and 30 men there and you meet all

04:37:52.680 30 of them and you as a girl how's that different and you as a girl go up to each and it thirsting

04:37:57.720 over 30 dudes or the dude how are you thirsting if you're getting to know them that's not like

04:38:02.360 that's not unreasonable i'm sorry when you say mixer are you saying like when you say

04:38:06.440 there's nothing wrong with getting to know people and meeting people there's nothing wrong with it

04:38:10.280 just because i went on 30 dates doesn't mean i was romantically invested in that's crazy it's a

04:38:15.160 romantic endeavor that's crazy but 30 dates like going on dates with guys is like a romantic endeavor

04:38:20.120 you might not be developing romantic feelings towards the other person because you're turned 0.88

04:38:24.280 off by something about them it's one day you explore it and then you close the chapter and

04:38:29.240 you move on it screams like a desperation for romantic attention like i'm not saying i understand

04:38:35.160 exactly where you were in life exactly but the thing is that's the point the thing is

04:38:39.560 it's extremely unhealthy regardless of where you were like you were in that situation and you

04:38:46.600 responded in an extremely unhealthy way right and then i went through therapy and then i handled all

04:38:51.800 those things yeah but it would behoove all of us to not pass judgment on people because of the way

04:38:56.840 that they came out there and explored their life there's like we all we all treat judgment as this like

04:39:03.640 cuss word people judge all the time people use their judgment but not judge people it is important 0.98

04:39:11.000 to judge people you need to i judge that this person is a scumbag their character but you don't 0.88

04:39:15.640 exactly them as a person and they're what is that how is that any different the bible says you judge 0.73

04:39:21.400 yourself so that you won't be judged at once with the rest of the world right i think you need to read

04:39:26.840 that passage in context i've read that entire no it says no i know the passage remove the

04:39:32.120 plank from your own passage i know what it is it's matthew chapter seven and actually jesus himself

04:39:37.800 commands you to judge in that passage yes later in the passage he tells them you will know them by

04:39:42.280 their fruits yes a good tree produce good produces good fruit and a bad tree produces bad fruit right

04:39:48.040 and you will know them but you will not judge them because judgment is left for our lord and

04:39:52.600 in the very no no no no in the very beginning of that passage he also tells you not to cast your

04:39:57.720 pearls before swine do not tell people about your judgment when they're just going to trample all over

04:40:02.840 it right so they're productive conversations he commands us to judge he's not saying we are the

04:40:08.520 ones who are going to judge people at the end of time that's contextual judging you as a person when

04:40:13.640 i'm but judgment is important it's an important part of well that's how it comes off but that's

04:40:18.040 your personal perspective can i ask her a question just one sec i will let you come in here really

04:40:23.160 quick so okay yeah going on 30 first dates with 30 different men in a period of a month is absolutely

04:40:30.680 excessive you're within your right to do it but i would argue most men like if the guys are just 0.97

04:40:37.080 trying to fuck you they then maybe they don't care no the guys are doing the same thing they're 0.98

04:40:40.840 trying to meet someone that they can date consistently there's nothing wrong with you think 1.00

04:40:45.240 most men are capable of going on 30 first dates with 30 different women in one month most men don't

04:40:52.280 have that kind of optionality but you as have you ever been in a long term what was your long

04:40:57.640 longest term relationship i've dated a girl for five years okay yeah so that was your longest

04:41:02.920 relationship sure mine was 14 years how is that relevant at all it's relevant because when you have 0.97

04:41:08.040 not been out on the dating scene dating is not just about like fucking like you keep saying about sex 0.59

04:41:14.200 it's not about it's not about that dating is about getting to know people meeting people finding out 0.73

04:41:21.160 what is your type of person and a potential match so you have to meet people you're not even making

04:41:25.640 an argument but the intention is also with romantic interest right versus going to church and meeting

04:41:31.080 people at church you're not romantically interested in every single people go to youth convention

04:41:35.640 christian youth conventions all the time to hopefully meet their future wives or husbands

04:41:40.040 if i'm going to church like i i hope i find my wife at church that'd be awesome but it's not a

04:41:45.560 guaranteed i am going to this function to find a potential romantic interest that's why every

04:41:52.280 single date is every single date is and that's bad when you go to church that's not the immediate

04:41:58.680 intention the immediate intention when you go to church is i'm here to worship god exactly and then

04:42:04.680 hopefully maybe i'll find a woman here that also shares the same values that's not that's not the 0.93

04:42:09.400 purpose of yeah it's not going that's not it shouldn't be however it can quickly become that

04:42:15.080 sometimes churches have like singles like clubs and ministries and stuff removing religion from this

04:42:20.680 i would argue that yeah like going on if imagine the yeah this is my future wife the first day i met her 1.00

04:42:28.760 i knew it was love i i i knew i knew she was the one she did go on that date immediately after our

04:42:36.440 date with the other guy and who knows how far along they got but yeah like i it's a bad look there's

04:42:43.080 impropriety there for you to be going on that many dates i think that's that's your perspective and

04:42:47.720 your perception i think it's my perception is i would hope that my person has been out on the dating

04:42:54.200 scene has explored all their options by the time they get to me or vice versa we know what we want

04:43:00.280 and we know to stay and to invest time and attention to that but can i ask are you a traditional woman

04:43:07.160 would you say yes i have five children but that is a non-traditional dating like that yeah that is

04:43:13.160 non-traditional dating you are absolutely correct because i lived a very traditional very conservative

04:43:18.760 ultra-religious lifestyle but you're saying you're currently still traditional and so just what i'm

04:43:23.400 saying is if you participate no i'm a critical thinker and independent i have recreated you said

04:43:28.840 yes you were traditional so that's why i'm asking you because that is traditional participating in the

04:43:33.160 hookup culture which is what that is if a man ever told me he's got 30 dates lined up you're making

04:43:37.880 assumptions that every date was a hookup i never said that you guys are no no that's why they were

04:43:44.920 first dates that's why it's so frustrating that you guys are lumping no one is assuming that oh i still

04:43:50.600 even if you didn't sleep with any of those i still absolutely would object and that's your opinion

04:43:55.960 and you're entitled to it and my opinion is that you should explore there was a girl in here before 0.96

04:44:00.680 that did something really similar and i don't remember you giving her such backlash i always

04:44:05.320 well i always did the girl that was like i didn't date until i was 20 and then she went on a date she's

04:44:09.880 like married her number 14 or something like that i there was actually ryan and listen like i really

04:44:15.240 like you as a person i'm not attacking you and like i don't i don't remember so like how far

04:44:20.840 how far in advance would you plan these dates say with like for the whole entire month no just day by

04:44:25.720 day or absolutely i mean you're matching you're getting to know somebody you're like okay let's

04:44:30.520 meet like i'm not the person that's also gonna create like a textationship because like i said i had

04:44:36.520 i started learning really quickly someone's going to present a certain way electronically

04:44:40.600 and they're going to be probably very different and it took me a while to hack the system and figure

04:44:45.720 out and filter out like how many total first dates do you think you've gone on in the past

04:44:51.000 you said the start i don't know i i i don't know but i met people out on the scene

04:44:55.480 gone over on over 100 first dates does it matter does it matter because i found someone that actually

04:45:02.040 sees me for who i am i know exactly what i want and when i identified him we locked it in

04:45:08.120 monogamously so right but okay doesn't even matter what the journey was how many first dates do you

04:45:13.000 think you went on i don't know and i'm honestly not going to tell you why because because all you're

04:45:18.120 doing is weaponizing it and making me look like i'm this no one is trying to do that hungry person

04:45:26.120 i'm less of a value woman just because i went on multiple dates no but that's what's being

04:45:30.520 but you said yourself i did ask you at one point i asked you if you thought that was a healthy

04:45:35.320 pattern and you said no and yet you're defending it right now and so i'm telling i am defending it

04:45:40.600 because everyone goes through their own healing journey and it's not our part listen yeah everyone

04:45:46.280 goes through their own healing journey of dating hundreds and until you've been in an actually

04:45:51.880 abusive controlling relationship and have not had any control over your life you really have no

04:45:56.840 i'm going to tell you right now that you do not know my past but i'm telling you i have slept with

04:46:01.400 a lot of people i have a pretty significant past and i am able to sit here and say it was unhealthy

04:46:07.080 it was wrong i will not defend it i wish i didn't do it i wish i could have done things differently and

04:46:11.720 it was not traditional and i'm just saying if you are wanting to say you're traditional and you it's

04:46:17.240 you recognize it's not healthy we shouldn't be perpetuating that this is somehow worthy of like

04:46:21.960 a chivalrous man who's going to be expecting you to be like it's not ladylike it's not traditional

04:46:27.160 and i'm just saying we're not attacking you we're attacking the ideology let me let me jump in really

04:46:32.040 quick let me jump in really quick i'm gonna ask you guys a question here uh do you want a long-term

04:46:35.480 relationship do i want one do you want one um yes do you want a long-term relationship yeah do you want

04:46:42.840 a long-term relationship okay my question to you is let's say you went out went on a date with a guy 0.99

04:46:48.040 and your goal you're not just trying to fuck him it's not like a casual hookup you're like hey i 0.90

04:46:53.640 want a long-term relationship that's your goal this guy tells you by the way i have 30 40 50 0.96

04:47:02.280 more dates lined up i have a date tonight i have a date i have dates with other women all this week 1.00

04:47:08.920 do you think if you were desirous of a long-term relationship that this would be the type of man

04:47:13.080 that you ought to pursue no no no because i don't think i'm getting a fair chance at that point

04:47:20.600 that's a good it's a good point because you're you're he's not going to give you a fair chance

04:47:24.840 um so i mean if you're desirous of a long-term relationship

04:47:31.160 it's just not a good look i don't care about the look it really doesn't impact me at all because i know

04:47:36.360 who i am as a person and i know that my person and my match is going to identify you can do i am

04:47:41.720 and vice versa so like i've never been on dating apps or anything before by a lot of friends that

04:47:47.480 have and you can you can easily talk to go on a virtual first date with 30 people like really

04:47:55.480 quickly i would assume right by just messaging them like do you view that differently than meeting them

04:47:59.960 in person like what's your perspective on that because i feel like you can be like hey what's up

04:48:04.920 and be like having and that actually wasn't even a function because i got on the dating scene a month

04:48:10.120 before the pandemic hit i've literally seen the evolution of the app yeah so they didn't have

04:48:15.240 a film i'm pretty sure they always had no they did not have picture function they did not have video

04:48:20.200 camera that was an evolution that happened but like late in 2020 but like couldn't you just be like

04:48:24.920 texting 30 people easily i wouldn't date a girl like that look i'll just give you my i'll just give 1.00

04:48:30.120 you my perspective on this uh maybe i don't move the same way as a lot of guys like if i'm interested in

04:48:35.880 a woman that's who i'm pursuing and i'm gonna get bring it as far as i can and that's if it doesn't 0.91

04:48:43.320 work out with her then huh and hope it sticks right if it doesn't work out with her then i'll start

04:48:49.560 entertaining other options but i don't do this thing of okay i'm just going to talk to like 10

04:48:54.440 chicks fuck three of them keep them on the the back burner for three months and then the one i like 1.00

04:48:59.480 the most maybe i'll give you see how you're painting that picture like that's not what i did and that's 1.00

04:49:03.320 what you're making it sound no i'm just talking about myself i'm not even saying that's what you

04:49:07.720 did i'm just talking about myself but perhaps you weren't to that degree but you said you were dating

04:49:13.800 or going on dates with multiple i was going on first dates to me that's literally the same thing

04:49:19.480 thank you for it is not the same thank you for reiterating exactly what i said it's a date did

04:49:24.440 any of these men you went on second dates with third dates with and that was in like the beginning

04:49:29.320 phases and i kid you not all of them were like first dates like nope nope nope nope nope doesn't

04:49:35.720 matter i was learning what i what i wanted and my question to you is like in life when you were

04:49:41.720 younger and you were like out on the dating scene and stuff did you have any restrictions or were you

04:49:46.440 able to like meet as many women or young ladies as you kind of wanted to and get to know them i mean

04:49:51.480 certainly there's been periods and i've had period hold on let me finish there's been periods when i i was on

04:49:56.280 the dating apps but i mean i was fairly intentional like if i'm not i have no interest in sleeping with

04:50:02.280 a girl once if i want to get with the girl there's going to be there's going to be continuity look it's

04:50:06.920 certainly possible that she doesn't want to continue seeing me although that's relatively rare uh but 0.98

04:50:11.560 yes there's absolutely going to be continuity so i don't want to just fuck a girl once and never talk 0.92

04:50:16.120 to her again right to me that's pointless it's a waste of time i'm very like i'm i'm a busy person i don't 0.98

04:50:21.240 have time to be just oh let me just fuck a girl once and then put in all the effort and never talk 0.95

04:50:25.400 to her and that doesn't that's not what but and that's not what i'm even like propagating or talking 0.98

04:50:30.840 about i'm talking about meeting people yeah but i don't even have i don't have an interest i don't

04:50:35.960 have an interest in if i was on it i would probably screen it out to begin with you know if i'm meeting

04:50:41.720 a girl and she's like i this actually happened to me when i was on dating apps and look i know this is

04:50:46.600 how people move on dating apps i was on a date with a girl and uh you know i'm trying to remember the

04:50:51.800 exact details but i was on a date with her she told me she just downloaded hinge it was a hinge date

04:50:56.280 and i think she'd had it for three days she told me i'd only been on the app for three days it's my

04:51:01.320 first date with her i think it was a saturday she tells me on the date credit to her i guess so i

04:51:06.440 could disqualify her immediately she told me by the way you know because we were just talking oh so

04:51:10.760 how's your experience been on the dating apps blah blah that's how we got to it she tells me oh yeah

04:51:15.240 i've already been on two dates and then i have three dates three other dates planned for this weekend

04:51:18.920 and then a couple other dates planned i was like i mean i was uh you know i continued the conversation

04:51:23.720 with her for a bit but then i was yeah and that's but that's also a different posture like how

04:51:29.640 disrespectful can it possibly be for you to be like oh i've been on a couple of dates and i also have a

04:51:34.440 few dates after you like i give that person my attention but you don't know wait because i'm not

04:51:39.480 going doing that's not exactly what you're doing that she just asked me are you planning are you

04:51:44.760 pre-planning 30 different dates like that no i'm connecting with someone i'm talking to them

04:51:50.200 now i want to meet them in person see if they're a good match but you're talking about not i move on

04:51:54.440 to the next two in a day i mean that sounds like pretty like you're setting up a roster and honestly

04:52:01.160 like i'll be honest like when i'm on a dating app i have maybe a few conversations with people they

04:52:05.800 fizzle out whatever but i'm not like setting up i i'm not trying to judge you i'm just saying like

04:52:11.320 well that's the way you choose to do life and then i choose to do life but you can't say it's

04:52:15.400 a traditional way of living if i'm going to give a prescription here my advice to men would be

04:52:21.480 you ought only date women whoever who are immediately giving you their undivided romantic 1.00

04:52:28.680 and sexual attention i have a question for you go ahead so if that girl were to want to just pursue 1.00

04:52:34.520 you after that first date and canceled all the rest of her dates would you still consider her

04:52:40.680 or would you still disqualify her right it it depends a little bit it's still not i mean if

04:52:46.120 she's like okay i really like brian i'm gonna cut off everybody else yeah then yeah that's i give

04:52:52.280 her some leeway but it's still like not the most ideal way to be moving in my in my yeah no i agree i

04:52:58.600 don't because i think okay well what about the past has she been sexually involved recently with

04:53:02.440 anybody else like i don't want to date a girl who just like i'm going on the first date with you and

04:53:06.600 you hooked up with a guy the night before i don't want to date you yeah that totally makes sense and

04:53:11.400 i like don't agree with what you did but i would assume that if you wanted to pursue one of the guys

04:53:17.400 that you went on i've just had that yeah you would cancel the other dates and continue to pursue that guy 1.00

04:53:24.040 i don't know i for me personally like i'm pretty straightforward i don't like to play games i'm 0.88

04:53:28.520 just gonna tell a girl i like you like it's gonna be a fucking another one i don't know what do i 0.99

04:53:35.000 say wrecking ball no it's just gonna be like i'm not gonna play a game where we're like for three 0.99

04:53:39.480 months we're in a situation ship and like you're fucking other dudes i'm fucking up i'm fucking 1.00

04:53:44.360 other i was about to say i'm sleeping with other girls like i'm gonna be very intentional i like you 0.99

04:53:51.240 if i sleep with you i want to continue seeing i agree with that posture and i know that modern

04:53:55.800 dating for the most part handles it the way you just said situationships three months that's how

04:54:00.680 it is non-exclusive sleeping around whatever and then that's what gets you into a pickle people are

04:54:05.880 incredibly dissatisfied with this whole situation ship but i would not use that as a blanket to like

04:54:13.640 meeting people i fully expect and like you know yeah so sure people should meet people and get

04:54:20.280 to know you're not like sleeping with multiple people but i would still disqualify a girl who's like 1.00

04:54:24.840 entertaining that many men because you're also like to some degree you are you are probably

04:54:29.720 subconsciously comparing them to each other in a sense you're like well this date went like this

04:54:34.520 with this guy and then that date goes like this with that guy and like you can't be satisfied because

04:54:38.680 like you're just constantly moving on to the next the next the next and maybe there would have been

04:54:42.760 somebody that would have been worthy but you just were so busy setting up all these dates that you

04:54:47.960 know you kind of didn't even give anybody maybe a viable chance it just it screams like i i i need

04:54:53.560 romantic attention but i do not want to form connections with people because i'm scared of

04:54:58.120 being hurt well i have a question a scenario right if you're sitting at a dinner table and you have a

04:55:04.040 guest and this guest has had consistent meals and eaten well-fed well-raised whatever how do you expect

04:55:12.120 that they're going to eat their food are they going to use their forks properly right properly like

04:55:18.760 normally so then if you're at a dinner table with someone that has been lost in the woods without

04:55:25.240 any food starved to the point of almost death and you've invited them to dinner after 30 days of not 0.90

04:55:32.920 eating how are they going to eat listen how would they eat in front of you i understand like a pig with

04:55:38.600 their hands with their like they're in survival mode sure okay so we can't just throw these judgments on

04:55:45.080 people like i'm speaking for all other domestic violence survivors today i said that listen we do

04:55:51.320 need to have compassion and empathy for people because not everybody's operating under the same

04:55:55.640 level of uh their faculties due to whatever they've been through blah blah blah but it does not absolve us

04:56:01.080 of personal responsibility and we have okay so you're in your example the person who comes starving for a

04:56:07.880 very long time and gets food there's no moral uh like it's not morally wrong to like start shoveling

04:56:15.480 food down because you're hungry but it is morally it's wrong to lead these guys on you're not leading

04:56:22.440 them on if you've gone on one date and you've said i'm not interested thank you that's not morally wrong

04:56:28.120 that is actually morally correct it's morally wrong to have multiple men on a roster and to just keep

04:56:34.520 them there hanging for three months at a time that you just that day you just randomly swiped on a

04:56:41.240 random guy matched with them said hey let's meet up in like a couple hours like no but a couple of

04:56:46.920 days prior has nobody ever matched on an app and had some conversation so you had many guys planning

04:56:53.080 out your week dependent upon no i wasn't planning out my week don't put words in my mouth because i

04:56:58.280 never said somebody you have to i've been on that in order to meet 30 guys in a month you have to

04:57:03.160 have some kind of planning it out and you have a life it's logistically impossible i gave a

04:57:09.720 okay can i ask a question what one thing really quick so as somebody who used to be on the dating

04:57:15.160 apps been off them for a while uh at least from the guys perspective maybe it's it could be different

04:57:21.400 from from women if you were a bit more making yourself a bit more available from my perspective it's 1.00

04:57:27.240 very difficult to get a woman on a date same day that you match them even you even if you ask for

04:57:34.920 the date let's say you don't match with them on thursday you're typically going to have to plan the

04:57:40.520 date out a couple days most people are not available dinner dates and longer dates yes agreed but a quick

04:57:48.040 coffee date in downtown wherever you are doesn't take much planning if you have a flexible schedule which

04:57:53.640 i have to be like hey how are you are you a sane person are you you have conversations with these

04:57:59.000 people i would i said that obviously i would argue most of the dates that i've been on from from

04:58:03.800 dating apps was not like spontaneous let's meet today it's maybe happened a couple times the vast

04:58:09.880 majority of them were uh okay it's it's currently monday uh what are you doing thursday what are you

04:58:15.720 doing friday are you like we plan it days in advance and that's the difference between being single and not

04:58:21.000 having children and being single and actually having to like would it be even harder around

04:58:26.840 whatever you don't have kids you have even more to plan around yeah you could i feel like if you

04:58:31.720 have kids you would have to plan it even more you probably have less dates especially you gotta

04:58:35.320 arrange that's crazy anyways we are going to move on we do got to move on let me read a couple

04:58:39.000 chats oh wait did this did this one guys donated 200 did this come through the real question

04:58:45.000 uh i'm gonna have alissa read the one that's about to come up while we do that guys go to twitch.tv

04:58:51.560 slash whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one uh twitch.tv slash whatever

04:58:56.840 drop us a follow in a prime sub if you have one and we have uh oh we got two coming in right now

04:59:01.960 hold on guys it's coming in just a moment any second now any second now it's going to come in i

04:59:09.080 feel it's coming there it is hey go ahead alissa oh boy would you rather be in the woods with a

04:59:17.720 trans man who by definition is a man or a trans woman who by definition is a woman with a beard and 0.98

04:59:24.760 her junk hanging out this is uh okay just one or one or two i guess oh lord which one are we answering 0.96

04:59:33.960 yeah sure i'm confused by that question even just say one or two the first or the second i don't even 0.99

04:59:39.320 remember what trans man or trans woman trans man or trans woman i have no preference i don't i'll 0.92

04:59:46.760 say it quick but i don't agree with the definition part and i don't want someone's junk hanging out so

04:59:51.560 i don't i i don't know i'd off myself no answer trans woman yeah so no preference uh no comment 0.99

04:59:59.000 whoever's biologically a man okay but trans woman with her junk hanging out is a penis right 1.00

05:00:04.680 alissa can you read this one yeah i thought you had therapy for this so why are you trying 1.00

05:00:10.920 so too hard to cope with your decision you know was unhealthy by the way you hopefully have someone

05:00:17.800 tell you to slow down and chew your food or you'll choke

05:00:20.840 can we move on well put nickelodeon okay we're gonna move on from that i'm finally gonna get into

05:00:30.600 some of my pre-show notes here so starting with alissa you said you wanted to talk about cheating

05:00:35.720 so have you been cheated on or um i have been cheated on yeah was that by your you said you were

05:00:42.120 in an 18 month relationship is it that one yeah he i don't know if i would consider it cheating because

05:00:48.280 i never like caught him in the act of like doing anything with her but the thing the big thing was

05:00:54.360 that he would like constantly go to the gym with this girl and i didn't know what was going on so i

05:01:00.120 just like decided to confront him about it and once i confronted him about it i like caught him picking

05:01:06.440 her up from like another place like some someone else like one of my friends had seen him do that

05:01:12.280 so then that like kind of confirmed the fact that he was like hanging out with her without me knowing

05:01:17.000 especially because we were like supposed to hang out later that day were you in a long distance

05:01:21.480 relationship with him no we were living in the same city at the time sorry you said something about

05:01:28.200 controlling your boyfriend's following what does that mean like following on instagram yeah yeah we

05:01:33.160 were talking about whether or not like that should be allowed i personally don't think that we should

05:01:38.280 have control over it but natalia was talking about it i said um i personally wouldn't want

05:01:48.200 my boyfriend following all these girls i i just wouldn't and um i would want him on not like he

05:01:54.920 could follow like a maybe a childhood friend or his mom his sister blah blah blah like ig models like 0.97

05:01:59.560 that yeah yeah absolutely not like if i see summer ray on his following list i'm

05:02:03.480 following like a model but i wouldn't be against him following like his friends like better girls

05:02:09.480 like female friends yeah okay so i mean uh i'm trying to think here uh i mean me personally i don't

05:02:16.280 follow anyone on instagram um even on my personal page well i follow my own whatever page and then

05:02:22.280 whatever page only follows me but um i think it's i don't think women are wrong for feeling that way 0.98

05:02:32.120 but i think it's it's massive l for a dude to be following girls like random hot chicks that's just

05:02:41.480 it's an l not even from the frame of girls don't like it it's just an l in general like why are you

05:02:48.760 following like you're cooming over these like random hot chicks never talk to you that would never give 1.00

05:02:56.440 your shot you're oh you're so beautiful it's like yeah it's like embarrassing to see a guy in the

05:03:03.240 comments of like a supermodel who's never gonna notice him it's just like why are you even doing

05:03:07.480 let me give you the the male corresponding thing on this so if i just say if i were to agree with you that

05:03:15.480 it's a bad look for men to be like following these ig models or you know whatever it is liking their 1.00

05:03:21.320 photos um would you guys be willing to concede that if you're dating a guy it's not a good look

05:03:27.480 for you to be posting immodest photos like bikini photos in general like if your boyfriend objected

05:03:34.600 to you post i have a bikini photo up right now and i would still keep it well but so here's the thing

05:03:38.840 right if you don't if you wouldn't like your guy liking those photos and following those women that 1.00

05:03:45.000 post those kind of uh photos i think he's just he's just as righteous in not wanting you to have

05:03:54.600 revealing and modest photos on your instagram you're doing the thing that you don't want him

05:03:59.720 to be looking at so it's me objected it i think i would take it but it's yeah but if you're looking at

05:04:05.960 so that's the problem is like honestly i'm sure some of my photos are immodest but honestly if i was

05:04:12.600 dating somebody who uh had a problem with it i would totally take that into consideration because

05:04:18.280 i value his input and i wouldn't want him to feel uncomfortable all right and then the other thing

05:04:22.920 what is the two man's thing i think two of you oh yeah we wrote these together like what is the two

05:04:28.120 man's thing we were basically talking about it and how it's like kind of like a fun exciting like

05:04:33.480 thing to do but like some people think it's just weird it's kind of like how are we talking and when

05:04:40.840 we're like saying this we're like going more into like the college lifestyle and wait but so

05:04:45.640 explain what is two man okay two two man yeah okay two man is like when two guys like their friends

05:04:54.040 get two girls and they hang out but the the like plan is to hook up at the end of the day oh so it's

05:05:01.160 not just like let's go bowling and that's it no a two man is like we go bowling like a double date

05:05:05.640 kind of a double date but then but y'all try the happy ending yeah yeah double date okay

05:05:12.040 uh wait so you guys have gone have you no i haven't no two men but they're the guys are so

05:05:17.480 okay just to be just so i understand so the guys will like hit you up and be like instead of just

05:05:24.440 being like hey do you want to hang out they'll be like hey do you have a cute girl for me and my

05:05:28.600 friend yeah you know it's funny people even make like on dating account or dating what are they dating

05:05:33.400 apps they'll make like two man profiles yeah like we're looking for a third i see what you're

05:05:39.960 talking and like i've seen girls do that too they'll be like hey it's me vanessa and becky

05:05:45.240 looking for it too and they're looking for it yeah oh no that's kind of weird yeah i think it's kind

05:05:50.360 of it's and it's like it's already hard enough like just making a connection just one-on-one

05:05:56.360 but then like let's say other people's energy let's say let's say you have a connection with the guy but

05:06:01.480 then your girlfriend isn't digging the other dude it's just awkward well if you agree to go

05:06:07.000 to on a team like oh my god like i had to take one for the team take the grenade oh yeah and when

05:06:12.520 you the young people crave drama yeah and it just did it put injects so much drama also i feel like

05:06:22.040 nobody's like going on double dates here like it's purely hookup culture which is why like a two-man is

05:06:28.120 like a double date but it's like the best we could get dang that's sad as bad as it sounded

05:06:35.480 now you wanted to uh what's the thing on splitting the bill on dates what were your thoughts on that

05:06:39.960 oh we were also talking about that we think that that's like wrong like i wouldn't split the bill

05:06:45.240 the man should pay i think i think the man should pay hold on wait but on the first date on the first

05:06:52.600 date for sure like going forward like yeah yeah i would offer but on the first date yeah if you

05:06:58.440 asked me to split it i'm gonna be like yeah okay i came out i was talking about this with my boyfriend

05:07:03.320 sister and i was like what how do you feel about this and she had a really good point she was like

05:07:08.600 i feel like whoever initiates is the one that needs to pay so whether that's the girl or the boy and i was

05:07:13.160 like oh that's actually really fair because you're like hey i want to get to know you i want to take you

05:07:16.680 out my tree but how often does the woman actually initiate the date because it's mostly the man who

05:07:23.160 initiates asking someone out and women expect the man to initiate nine times i think girls initiate a 0.92

05:07:28.840 lot more these days than normal but but yeah maybe by a small degree but you would probably prefer a man 0.85

05:07:35.400 be the one to say hey i really like you i'd like to take you out you would prefer that so so the whole

05:07:40.920 point is that like the splitting the bill thing like you're expecting a man to pay but he's the

05:07:46.360 one who's always asking you out so it's always going to be him yeah even if i were to ask a guy

05:07:52.280 out on a date if it went really well i would expect him to end up paying for it yeah even if it went

05:07:57.880 really well even if she asked oh if you asked you would expect him okay yeah yeah if it went well

05:08:04.760 yeah what if a date goes badly do you still expect him to pay yeah yes i still think i think the

05:08:11.320 initiator i said i still like that i stand by that i think that's yeah let me ask you guys a question

05:08:15.800 so the man um okay so the man should pay on the first date right women should i'm trying to think 0.51

05:08:26.360 what would be the corresponding thing here if men should do it's it's always interesting like there's

05:08:31.800 never any pushback if a woman says men should do x traditional gender role but if a man says women 0.81

05:08:38.680 should do like for example women should i this isn't my view but i'm going to give you this as an

05:08:43.800 example women should oh my god i'm gonna get clipped i don't know if i should say it say it 1.00

05:08:51.320 okay it's gonna get do it before you thank you much do it in your cool we all know where it's coming

05:08:56.920 are you saying like be properly single or no like i mean i could the the more the more extreme one

05:09:02.200 would be like women should be virgins i was gonna say disclose your body count or something but that's 1.00

05:09:07.240 i mean let me give something a bit less extreme uh women should be in the kitchen 1.00

05:09:15.640 is that sexist no or women should dress up nicely with heels and whatever for a day i think that's like

05:09:20.760 like i've been on a date i'm not gonna pull up in heels in a dress i pulled up in a casual clothing

05:09:32.200 and he's that's by the way that's not don't clip me that's not this is different i think men a lot

05:09:37.000 of men these days would prefer a woman just to dress like more modestly rather than like flashy and and

05:09:42.440 all done up and everything um maybe it's not true for everyone but from what i'm seeing it seems like

05:09:47.480 more men are leaning that way but uh yeah it's also not equivalent because like women aren't 0.98

05:09:52.120 losing anything to put on a way i have a question yeah that's right so do you know any girls that 1.00

05:09:56.120 like they're kind of doing the hookup thing where they're like they got a roster you know any girls 1.00

05:10:00.680 like that you know any girls like that no any girls like that do you think that the man should still

05:10:05.240 pay like let's say he's taking a girl on the first date but she like hooked up with a guy it's not 1.00

05:10:09.560 like he knows though but they're not saying hey by the way i hooked up with this guy before

05:10:13.960 you i feel like if you're in that situation like he asked her on the date yeah i feel like so so

05:10:18.920 just to be clear the guy should be chivalrous traditional pay for the first date still pay

05:10:22.680 for the first date even though she's fucking another guy and even if it goes bad if you don't like 0.92

05:10:26.920 another girl and she's supposed to tell what if he's not though what if he wants you know what if 0.89

05:10:31.480 he's not and keep in mind when i'm like there's like an automatic like they're sleeping with

05:10:36.920 everybody so it doesn't matter what i do but that's we go to ucsb yeah

05:10:41.000 there's there's no scenario there's no scenario where i'm gonna pay i'm not even going on a date

05:10:51.320 with her i'm not going on a date i want anything if a girl's sleeping with another guy i don't want 1.00

05:10:56.840 anything to do with her i don't i don't even want to fuck her once how are you gonna know i don't 1.00

05:11:01.720 want to kiss her i don't want nothing what do you do to screen that before going on a first date yeah 1.00

05:11:07.480 i mean hopefully i because i are you seeing other people right now hopefully they tell you

05:11:11.880 the truth if you're led by your values and you try to find somebody who seems like they're i know you

05:11:16.840 don't know them at first but try to find someone who seems like they're more aligned with your

05:11:20.200 values then hopefully you can trust a little bit that they're telling you the truth and you ask them

05:11:25.480 important questions generally yeah someone who's in their dating profile is going to highlight all the

05:11:30.520 things that are important not nothing that's like superficial they're not going on a bunch of dates

05:11:37.320 like one after another um yeah they're they're not pushing all of this stuff all of the this stuff

05:11:44.840 that signals a modern dating lifestyle someone who sleeps around a lot um yeah those things kind of

05:11:52.440 clue you in wait so going back to you so yours men should pay for first dates right yeah yeah going 0.93

05:11:57.880 around the table on this actually men should pay for first dates if they initiate yeah yeah if they

05:12:02.680 ask then yeah yes i've paid for plenty of first dates should men pay though do you prefer them to

05:12:07.960 pay um i leave it up to them i'm as i like i will offer and then if they insist then i'll thank them

05:12:15.480 because it's a kind gesture but i'm not going to like lead with that expectation i would prefer it

05:12:21.560 but i it really depends on how the date goes i don't want a guy to pay if i'm not into it and you

05:12:25.720 said yes yeah okay so so that kind of means that you guys buy into traditional gender roles if you

05:12:32.280 think men should pay for the first date right yes so but so why is it okay for women to say 1.00

05:12:36.920 men should pay for first dates we can also say men should protect women and you know we already 0.87

05:12:43.640 talked about the bullet thing men should sacrifice their life for women but it's not okay for men to

05:12:48.600 say women should dress modestly i think it's okay for men to say that i never said it wasn't okay

05:12:53.080 well i'd argue most women would be like you shouldn't be you shouldn't control what i wear 1.00

05:12:57.080 i think you have a pretty cons i don't i wouldn't call us like conservative but like a lot more of a

05:13:03.320 level-headed group in the room than maybe you typically have you have a bikini photo on your

05:13:10.200 instagram right i do okay so if we were dating and i was like actually you know the the gangster move

05:13:17.320 for you would be like i don't even have to tell you you just take that down you just get it like

05:13:23.480 for example you don't want to tell a guy to have to behave in the ways you want him to behave you

05:13:28.440 want him to just do it automatically right you won't have to teach a guy no no no no you're

05:13:33.720 mom no no edgar yeah as a guy that would be the biggest turn on you in the world you don't it does

05:13:39.960 not take that much effort to make a man fall for you it's literally yeah doing stuff like that respect

05:13:46.440 that's like respecting me but if i was like hey i want you to take that photo down would you do it

05:13:51.880 if you came to me and like express a concern about it i'd be like all right you know like begrudgingly

05:13:56.760 take it down no i wouldn't take it down i mean a post is a post like all right uh and then what

05:14:01.720 about okay would it would it be okay for a man to say women should cook for men um 0.68

05:14:09.160 my dad's like that and i always tell him off on it with my mom you tell him off yeah i tell him off i

05:14:14.280 said like once he tried to make me like serve my brother and i said no he could get up and do it

05:14:17.800 himself i'm not going to serve him and i'm not going to cook for a man that says woman needs to 0.99

05:14:23.080 cook for him like if i do it kindheartedly and i want to do it for him because he's a good man i'll

05:14:27.080 do it but i'm not going to do it just because he's a man well but but why then should a man pay for

05:14:33.320 a first date just because he's a man and you're a woman it's just the way i feel it's how you feel

05:14:38.760 that's just the way i feel it's a okay so so you're fine with the statement men should pay

05:14:44.280 for first dates but you're not fine with the statement for a first date hold on hold on

05:14:48.760 women should cook for men you're not fine with that statement no why because i've seen the way like 1.00

05:14:55.160 my mom like she's so submissive and it annoys me i'm not going to do that wait it annoys you that your

05:15:00.520 mom is submissive and that way that she will like immediately get up serve a plate is she doing 1.00

05:15:05.160 does she do it happily yeah is she happy yeah she probably is like i have a stepmom who it is

05:15:10.680 that is how she loves yeah yeah let her answer her life her background go ahead go ahead can you ask

05:15:16.680 it again i got like lost my mind is your mom happy with that arrangement is she happy yeah she's happy

05:15:21.560 with arrangement to each their own i don't uh is she you know yeah like does she nag about the things 1.00

05:15:31.880 yeah she does okay so she's not happy yeah she's happy with him but that part like you know i will

05:15:37.960 when i'm talking about i'm talking about like in his hispanic perspective that's like expected

05:15:41.880 a man is like wait question does your mom is she uh like work at all or she stayed at home she stay at

05:15:46.520 home and your your father they're still married right they're still married uh your father he's the

05:15:51.240 sole breadwinner of the household yeah um is he can do you mind saying what he does for work

05:15:56.360 uh he's a manager manager okay is he successful or doing well um he provides for i have five

05:16:04.440 siblings he's provided for us okay so but she doesn't like it when he says hey can you cook for

05:16:09.960 me but he's the sole breadwinner she's not complaining but she's not complaining about that

05:16:13.880 um it's more of me complaining about it but i've seen it because i've seen that like try to get

05:16:19.640 reinforced onto me if your father decided do you have siblings five five siblings and sole breadwinner

05:16:27.800 right one one income if your father was like well i just don't feel like going to work anymore

05:16:34.520 would you question that decision absolutely because he's not the man so but if it's his role

05:16:40.840 to be the provider and go to work wouldn't it be your mom's role to manage the household 1.00

05:16:47.560 yeah how many is he work how much uh hours a week do you think he works 50 yeah does he have two jobs

05:16:54.600 no just one just one job works monday through friday yeah well does he work full time he works full

05:17:01.720 time okay so just to be clear you have no objections to him being uh

05:17:08.520 a slave to the labor market but you do object to your mother cooking for her family

05:17:20.120 i never said that yeah or you okay you object to

05:17:23.080 she's coming from a different life experience yeah so stop okay so you object to

05:17:30.200 you object to the expectation that your father has

05:17:33.800 on your mother his wife to cook to the extremity that he does it yes how does he 0.88

05:17:40.360 is he eating multiple dinners a night it has to be done if it's not done by the time he's off of

05:17:45.400 work he gets annoyed um she's worried like if we're out doing something it's oh i have to be home in

05:17:52.040 time to cook for your dad so i just wouldn't want that type of and well and cook for the family too right 0.97

05:17:56.520 cook for the family too yeah okay so would you what just one last thing one last thing okay so

05:18:03.160 do you think that do you think that if your father stopped working do you think that your mother his

05:18:10.280 wife would find that annoying she would find a job she would you don't think they would cause 1.00

05:18:17.640 relationship problems if he just decided to not do his role he had a knee problem she was immediately

05:18:23.480 like about to start working so okay but if he just said you know i just don't really feel like

05:18:29.000 that's a little different what that's different like a health issue yeah sorry different health

05:18:35.720 reasons it's like a health reason versus like a character flaw yeah well character flaw then yeah

05:18:41.480 she didn't ever say that her mom was like super unhappy with the arrangement she doesn't want 0.93

05:18:46.360 a divorce i just said that i don't want that she doesn't want that forced on her but she wants 1.00

05:18:51.160 the man to be a traditional it's pay for one day i'm not asking for a hand in marriage pay for a date

05:18:57.880 i'm i'm what 2019 i'm 19 about so it's like you're trying to go on a movie no i'm not asking

05:19:04.280 you're picking and choosing the the the traditional man treatment that you want i feel like so like

05:19:10.760 it you kind of have your the man who is going to be a traditional guy who is going to want to pay for

05:19:18.280 a first date is also going to ask of you those traditional things that man will men will want

05:19:26.280 and i feel like this goes more off of my previous answer on like the wanting a family and a marriage

05:19:31.160 and everything over a career and education so that should just like show you my viewpoint i'm just saying

05:19:35.800 like if you're not looking for the traditional relationship like i'm not saying like you don't

05:19:42.920 want a man but you're not looking for a man who's going to be a leader who's asking you to submit to

05:19:48.600 him his leadership and you're not looking for that then oh so you are looking for that i never said that

05:19:54.760 either i just said i don't well okay so from all of the conversation that we've had you have very much

05:20:00.360 suggested that you're against female submission to their partner um so is that we spoke about

05:20:08.360 cooking you said specifically you were turned off by the word submission like submission like my mom

05:20:14.520 submits to my dad and it kind of like irks me that's you you said in the context of her because we don't

05:20:20.520 know what her life and her upbringing was like just like it doesn't really matter it does matter so

05:20:25.480 much because in your family you have respect no no okay if someone says if someone says

05:20:31.720 regardless of how they were brought up regardless of their history it irks me that my mom submits to

05:20:37.640 my dad that's but that's coming in her context it's not just an off the cuff yeah well we also know in

05:20:43.240 the context that it seems like loving parents and you got a great example of what so from what we've

05:20:48.520 talked about it seems like that her parents have a pretty good relationship that her mom's not

05:20:54.280 miserable like public but there people stay for multiple different reasons but that's you making

05:21:02.760 an assumption that there could be some no i'm speaking from experience no but you're speaking

05:21:06.840 from okay well you can't you can't apply your experience coming from a large family and also

05:21:12.040 first generation you're talking about also very submissive culture like you know i i know i and i see her

05:21:18.920 struggling to to articulate herself because she's a little bit younger she hasn't had to argue her

05:21:23.400 viewpoint but i know how big of a turnoff it was to me to see like my dad talking to my mom in a

05:21:29.880 demeaning maybe tone just because he was raised to be clear is your dad being demeaning towards your mom

05:21:35.960 when we talk about cooking and that was the whole topic yeah so there are things that people come to

05:21:42.120 the table with and that's it's not but anyways i do anyway i just there's so many notes i have to

05:21:49.560 get through i don't know if i'll even be able to get through all of them um i think really quick

05:21:53.800 though on the who pays thing again i'm just kind of confused of if it's okay for for a woman to say

05:21:59.720 i think a man should pay for the first date why is it also wrong for a man to say i think i want

05:22:04.600 a woman to make me a sandwich i feel like it's unfair make me a sandwich only just make me a sandwich 1.00

05:22:10.120 once though yeah no well i would say i think it's unfair to equate one the first day he's paying for

05:22:16.200 the first date to a lifelong obligation of paying or making meals for like your husband i think if you

05:22:21.240 like work out an agreement eventually or not even an eventually just by the second date where it's

05:22:25.720 like you're more open to splitting the bill or you offer like that's more of like a give or take

05:22:30.440 relationship like it doesn't one date shouldn't equate being the lifetime of um meals i just think

05:22:36.280 it's funny like so how women hate when men ask to go 50 50 on a date but are perfectly comfortable

05:22:43.080 with 50 50 in a divorce i would i think it's just the first date we're talking about yeah we

05:22:49.480 i would be willing to split on the second date let me ask you guys just you guys a question real

05:22:53.240 quick okay just tell me why like make an actual argument why men should pay on the first date

05:23:00.440 yeah because i think it's a way of showing interest well hold on showing investment yeah

05:23:05.960 okay so why should to put like work into this like what because a female invests in herself too they 1.00

05:23:11.480 dress up they buy jewelry they do their nails stuff like that but that's not an investment in the man

05:23:15.960 sorry that's not an investment in the man that's an investment in herself right i put in a lot of

05:23:20.040 effort to be here on the state you asked me to come to i expect you to pay for it well didn't the

05:23:25.240 guy put in just an equal amount of effort if not more he asked me to go on the date though

05:23:30.120 i didn't bring this upon him he brought it upon me have you ever asked a guy out on a date no okay

05:23:35.640 well hi i have guys and what's that i have and he paid i and he still i hate to admit it but but

05:23:43.880 more often than not like for you when it comes to first date like of the times you've been asked

05:23:47.560 out by a guy more often than not is it the guy asking or are you asking i've asked once the other

05:23:52.520 times the guys asked and so you asked one time how many times what ten times if guys have been on

05:23:57.240 you i don't know three times three times what about you uh like two times two times okay more

05:24:02.600 often than not men are the ones initiating here so um it's kind of this like very convenient position

05:24:10.760 to say well you asked you should pay well what what's the alternative okay fine as a guy i'll just

05:24:17.320 sit back and wait for women to ask me out on dates so that they can pay for the date but then that 1.00

05:24:25.240 then that man gets faced with the brutal reality of he's never going to get asked out on a date

05:24:30.280 most men never get asked out on dates well that's just the way like it is okay but so what's the art

05:24:36.120 what's the actual argument for why a man should pay and you answered but what about you i agree with her

05:24:40.840 answer be because they asked yeah that's the argument they wanted you to go so why wouldn't they pay for

05:24:49.240 it but you see how that's unfair because you never asked me to go right but women never 1.00

05:24:56.440 really ask the man so it's always going to be on the man and then you're we're having the same

05:25:01.480 conversation what do you think i think it's one day and if they're gonna like i kind of said it

05:25:07.480 earlier like after the first day i'd totally be open to splitting it honestly i'd be open to

05:25:11.320 splitting the first day i would probably be like okay you don't like me that much then if like you

05:25:15.000 want to split it just because i think it is the investment thing huh go ahead um but yeah yeah

05:25:20.680 the investment thing well let me go around the table starting with you if you go on a date with

05:25:24.360 guy and he he wants to split will there be a second date if the date went well yeah

05:25:35.000 yeah yeah yeah i'm sorry sorry guys yeah wait yeah there will be a second there yeah it depends

05:25:42.920 how the date went and if i knew them before yeah if the date went like really well then yeah

05:25:48.120 i don't oppose to splitting i just prefer the man to pay same yeah i kind of prefer splitting the first

05:25:52.840 date i don't think there would be a second date okay all right okay we're gonna move on we're gonna

05:25:57.880 move on let's see let's get back to some do the bow thing oh yeah that's not that's decent yeah all

05:26:04.120 right here's my view fine men should pay for first dates in my own view i think women should bow 1.00

05:26:13.000 nick play the video all right this is what i think a woman should do boom hit look at that bow great 1.00

05:26:20.440 technique great skill look at it look at the attentiveness get putting putting in the dirty

05:26:27.000 laundry hamper look at that come home from a long podcast come home from a hard day's work the dinner's

05:26:33.480 ready look at this she's attentive she's got she's got my drink oh my noodles need stirring yep

05:26:41.000 look at that boom very a bit a bit too much but okay i'll accept it and one more time one more time

05:26:49.480 with the bow look at the bow boom i want i want a girl to bow um would you if you were dating a guy 1.00

05:26:58.280 and he was like hey i want you to every time you see me i want you to hit a bow would you do it no i

05:27:04.600 almost feel like that's his way of like establishing dominance like what if he paid for every day if

05:27:10.920 he paid for everything he pays for everything he's the provider like the house you live in in this in

05:27:15.560 this one in this first date in this like immediate interaction he's providing he's the big man he's

05:27:20.520 the big man he's dominating in the financial aspect like he you're gonna he's probably gonna dominate

05:27:26.680 the conversation yeah like like he's probably gonna be the one that's asking the questions because

05:27:32.040 generally speaking when i've gone on dates it's me who is going to have to generate all the

05:27:36.360 questions because i asked the person on the date i feel like there's a burden upon me to like kind of

05:27:42.120 carry the conversation i think generally speaking that's kind of the the what women ask of men in

05:27:48.920 first dates so what do you do about i pay for every day well no no so okay so the first date this in

05:27:57.240 this hypothetical world if i'm going to pay for a date i i it'd be kind of cool to see a bow first

05:28:04.920 date like respectable like i respect you as a man joke on the first no no no i respect you i respect

05:28:12.840 you as a woman so i'm going to provide for you i respect you as a man therefore i'm going to bow

05:28:18.280 that's crazy if you're bowing on the first date yeah i think it's crazy if a man would always pay

05:28:24.280 for the first day i don't even think it would be good if she bows on the first day i'll accept

05:28:29.560 second date if you're on a date with a girl and she legitimately bowed with bowed for you you'd be

05:28:33.720 like oh my god like no like that's like weird i would wife her on the spot yeah that would be like 1.00

05:28:52.440 a massive green check like please sit down i will pay for whatever you would you would you do a bow

05:28:57.960 um i'd make a joke of it yes but i have cooked and baked for men on dates and they did not come back

05:29:03.640 so i don't know if it's actually going to work but would you hit a bow no for a man never even

05:29:09.320 you're not remove the first date thing from this let's say you're just you've been dating a guy for

05:29:14.040 six months and all of a sudden he's like i'd like for you to bow to me would be hilarious i was gonna

05:29:20.920 say something highly inappropriate but no well i don't i feel like bowing was instilled for like

05:29:27.000 people that were a lower social class and stuff right kingdoms things like that that's what's up 0.74

05:29:32.840 would he bow to the girl like she was like it's not money but if she were to be cooking every day

05:29:37.640 for him even if it is money let's be honest sometimes women make a lot of money too if she 1.00

05:29:43.080 because sure the if they're like traditional like men bring money to the table but like women bring 0.98

05:29:48.920 something else to the table like yeah nurturing loving yeah exactly like would you bow to the female

05:29:53.160 for if she's but the man's doing everything that desire for a woman to do i think bowing is a

05:29:58.280 posture it's like a thank you if you're gonna expect the woman's a way of life for just bringing 1.00

05:30:03.320 like but that's like breadwinner of the family but you're not gonna about her for if she's hitting 1.00

05:30:07.080 everything that's why she's gonna bow hold on but okay we're just going like you want the guy to

05:30:13.080 pay for the first date you won't hit a bow you want a guy to die for you you won't hit a bow

05:30:17.320 like that's like equality the thing is like traditionally speaking like in in the history

05:30:27.000 historically speaking women they're they had incredible respect for men because of what the 0.90

05:30:33.720 role that they played the provider the protector i'm going to make sure that you have a safe place

05:30:38.600 to raise our children so that you can create the next generation and continue my legacy there's like

05:30:44.120 incredible respect that was given to men because of that that's traditionally and so when you expect

05:30:51.000 men to provide on the first date by paying i'm not saying it has to be a bow but there's like

05:30:57.880 he doesn't i want the bow i want the bow oh you want the bow i want the bow i i influenced you

05:31:03.160 you definitely yeah but like it's that's a tangible way to show that you respect the man for the role

05:31:09.320 that he plays i would find it endearing i would definitely if i asked for it i was like yeah

05:31:14.280 what's up babe let me see about real quick super serious about it because that's kind of concerning

05:31:18.760 if you're like no like bow like if they were it seems like you're pretty serious about them paying for

05:31:23.640 the first date i would impress it i would it's not like something no no no i'm not saying like uh i'm

05:31:28.360 i will not you must bow yeah if it was like hostile like coming here's here's the here's the frame

05:31:37.560 right we want if we ask we and okay we ask we want you to want to do it yeah yeah yeah it's not like

05:31:46.920 us to pay for the date we don't want to have to ask but it would be very beneficial but an asian

05:31:53.880 culture males and females bow to each other that's a keeper right there nice and asian

05:31:58.920 culture men and females bow to each other it's a sign of mutual respect i'm such a white guy i'm

05:32:03.400 sorry so that's what i was trying to get at when i was saying earlier how thing if your wife is doing 1.00

05:32:08.200 everything that you want her to like in traditional form what you would want her to do it's like a

05:32:11.800 mutual like she brings 50 of it into the relationship if he brings 50 yeah you're bringing different

05:32:16.200 aspects he might be the breadwinner but she's doing everything else that you'd want her to do i

05:32:20.680 understand you like see that as her respecting you by like so wait you want you want the guy to do

05:32:25.640 the bow no i'm just saying that if they're doing she was saying that in asian culture they both bow

05:32:31.320 because they respect what each each other brings to the table that's not that's not why they do it

05:32:35.720 men bow to other men in asian culture i don't know the details i don't know the details

05:32:39.080 i don't think women want the guy to bow to them though no i want to be a leader that's the whole

05:32:46.200 point though is that women are a man opening a man opening a door do you want to like peg a guy 1.00

05:32:52.040 too oh my god what are you talking about you just said you wanted a woman i don't know you just to 0.99

05:32:56.600 bow to you how is it different i got an intuition a man a man opening a door for a woman is the

05:33:01.960 equivalent no i would not you want to bend i'm sick of this you want to dominate a man i'm sick of this 0.90

05:33:07.160 you want to dominate all right we didn't get around to say like let's say you pay for the date so

05:33:12.600 then i bow but the next day she cooks the meal are you bound nope because the man is supposed to

05:33:17.800 the bow back no man is supposed to be the leader and the woman is supposed to submit to him in a 0.99

05:33:22.200 traditional relationship therefore like if he's bowing to you it's not like a mutually equal that's

05:33:27.320 like more feminist ideology so ideally that's the situation if a woman cooked for me like i would do 1.00

05:33:35.640 a ton for her i wouldn't bow but like i would give his life i would give my life you give his life

05:33:40.600 anyways you make me a sandwich i'll jump in front of a ball around the table did everybody answer on

05:33:45.400 the bow thing i think you said no yeah i said no madison would you bow left and right wait did you

05:33:52.120 hit a bow i told you to hit a bow for frankie i told you i did oh you did but i okay to be fair

05:33:56.920 i don't yeah i don't think he got the right message because i did do this one about and then

05:34:01.560 he bowed back because he thought we were gonna play ninja or something frankie's a simp

05:34:06.600 not but no would you hit a bow i'd hit a bow but i'd i'd hope he'd hit a bow back eventually

05:34:13.480 in a funny way yeah but not serious yeah i'd hit a curtsy yeah no i would i asked him i asked my

05:34:19.080 boyfriend about this though he was like no i wouldn't want you to do that and but i think of it like

05:34:24.800 you know if i were to say hey it would make me feel really respected and special if you did x whatever

05:34:32.400 you know i think in relationships like that kind of conversation happens a lot okay but yeah i would

05:34:38.320 i kind of make a joke now to him like i'll randomly be like i bow to you alissa can you read this video

05:34:43.360 so if the man should pay for the first date should the man be expected for the first time

05:34:48.640 and birth control if not who pays the consequence what should the man be expecting

05:34:54.720 for the first time men can't get pregnant bro um can't be expected expected to get some for the 0.67

05:35:02.720 first time yeah no i don't that's that's like expected to pay for like a plan b or something

05:35:08.880 is that what he's trying to get at and like birth control because he's talking about buying it for

05:35:11.920 them i don't really understand the question maybe could you clarify um i don't yeah i don't understand

05:35:18.960 the question i'm sorry ben could you try to clarify a little bit okay more notes more notes oh man this

05:35:23.920 could be okay i'll try to i'm gonna get through these quick uh hold on uh okay the we did the two

05:35:32.320 man thing talking stage splitting the bill do guys ever get over their first love we're gonna skip that

05:35:37.760 no offense uh hot takes if it were the right person it would be the right time what does that mean

05:35:43.520 i think a lot of times like we try to like deflect why a relationship didn't work out we were like

05:35:49.360 oh like he was the right person but it just wasn't the right time he was in the right place but i think

05:35:54.320 if it is the right person he's gonna make an effort for it to be the right time and a lot of people are

05:36:00.160 like delusional about that and they keep making up excuses for you and then the next thing is lasting

05:36:05.920 too long as a guy during sex is a real thing we were talking about this because i feel like it's just

05:36:11.600 like a sign of like them being addicted to porn if they last too long yeah okay because i feel like

05:36:17.600 they're like oh look closer to the mic i feel like it's like a sign of that because what are they doing

05:36:24.240 like i did have an experience with a guy where he like lasted way too long and i had asked him about

05:36:30.880 it because i don't know i was like maybe this is like a me problem but he said that like he had like

05:36:35.520 had like a year where he would just like edge like all the time oh for fun like to train himself

05:36:42.960 or something and now it's like a problem and so uh how long did he last like an hour lord that's

05:36:52.640 pretty pretty long i guess yeah you guys you said you were talking about with your girlfriends though

05:36:57.520 have you had that yeah no what's like okay so going around the table really quick quick answer like

05:37:02.320 what's the um ideal period of time for a uh encounter to last you think god

05:37:12.000 it depends i would say for me no more than half an hour because god my body can't take it okay

05:37:20.080 maddie can i skip this question if you don't want to answer that's fine god i'm not if you don't

05:37:25.360 want to answer that's fine any girls any other girls no answer no comment no comment yeah i don't

05:37:31.200 want to answer either oh okay for how long i don't know well i feel like it's different for

05:37:37.840 every encounter that yeah i think there's definitely sometimes a quickie can be good

05:37:42.720 the lower you get to there's more factors involved so yeah yeah i mean women don't stay 1.00

05:37:49.040 wet forever too so i mean yeah you're gonna it just depends yeah some men have

05:37:54.160 a lot of issues and it depends on the interaction it depends on like what's going on situation

05:37:59.120 you guys are talking about just penetration then that's like a whole different i think like a sod

05:38:03.280 like 30 seconds is pretty good though yeah wait did you say yes no i did wait yeah you agree okay 1.00

05:38:12.640 well i speaking of double standards what the fuck was that that fucking fly came for me wait did you 0.99

05:38:18.720 lose something nick you're just like that's weird okay speaking of double standards why is it that 1.00

05:38:29.360 when a man premature ejaculates that's bad but it's good for a woman like if she comes too quick so 1.00

05:38:39.520 unfair how's that unfair the man's relieved because he got her off and she's the more yeah she's the more

05:38:46.800 complicated one to get to orgasm women take on average like 20 minutes just takes longer bad 1.00

05:38:53.840 joke like okay hold on for example would you agree though like if it's too like if a guy comes too

05:39:00.080 quick though that's also a problem right oh she okay i don't know like three pumps what if you're

05:39:08.800 what if you don't get satisfied like what if you're not satisfied but he went on there's other

05:39:12.480 though no i know but i i but that wasn't the question you said like if he's done fast well

05:39:17.680 comes fast if it happens every single time like maybe there's something we can talk about but talk

05:39:23.440 about talk about a boot sorry uh because like no i don't think there's any guy there's no guy who's

05:39:31.520 like i wish she didn't come so fast said no man ever you know i i don't it's a relief i don't usually say

05:39:40.240 that about men in the past i think men have to deal with all of this stigma of like oh my gosh

05:39:48.400 there's so many nerve endings and whatever how could you possibly not make a woman orgasm but it 1.00

05:39:52.640 is complex women get in their brain a lot more it's not just mechanical yeah like it's very different 1.00

05:39:58.800 i heard an interesting thing that you said and i don't know if i can say it go ahead well you said

05:40:03.520 about like not going down on women in one of your things yeah and i found that interesting because like

05:40:08.080 i personally find that to be like some like a too intimate thing so i don't know i just found

05:40:12.720 that interesting that you feel that way well okay so my i mean when it comes to sex i want her to come 0.98

05:40:17.280 first yeah but there's other ways to do it than yeah than that but like no matter what i wanted to come

05:40:24.400 first then i can go but that's the ideal yeah it's crazy though i mean some of these women 1.00

05:40:30.240 got like multiple orgasms come after like three seconds shit's crazy son 0.99

05:40:36.640 yep it's good it's good double standards though if a guy's like busting after three seconds that's 0.99

05:40:41.920 not most women are not going to be satisfied with that well then he's kind of like actually

05:40:46.960 right huh ladies can what go ahead say it say it i just say that multiple if it's that fast and he's 0.98

05:40:52.480 like out of commission like he can do like you know like oh like rebound like yeah exactly well

05:40:56.880 like girls if they finish first like technically like you can like you can just you can like 0.99

05:41:02.480 continue you can technically keep going like the guy like he's done then he's done yeah like you

05:41:08.640 can do other things but he can't necessarily just okay yeah hop back to it you know yep yep good times

05:41:14.640 good times uh sorry no it's all good okay uh last okay lasting too long bad friends with benefits

05:41:23.920 never works you've had the friends with benefits didn't work no okay you're just from your you see

05:41:29.440 it from your friends yeah you said the situationship is only a situationship to one person and nothing

05:41:34.160 to the other yeah i think if you're in a situationship it's only that to you and then the other person

05:41:40.720 obviously doesn't see it that way or else he would just take you serious three you said there's a

05:41:44.640 three-month rule if he doesn't ask you to be his girlfriend within three months of you guys talking

05:41:47.920 he'll never ask oh yeah i don't think so because at that point he's just dragging you along because

05:41:54.800 you're gonna let him well actually i think the woman should ask for the relationship not the man 1.00

05:42:00.320 really yeah yeah i don't think so yep in what way like you like what ask him to be your boyfriend

05:42:06.320 like is that what you like yeah that should be on you and why wait why yeah both of you tell us well

05:42:11.680 generally speaking i would argue now this maybe not might not really apply to me because i'm pretty

05:42:18.640 like i'll laser focus in and like i'll bring it there but uh if your desirous of commitment of being

05:42:31.360 whatever if you want monogamy you want commitment you want to be his girlfriend you want him to be your

05:42:36.320 boyfriend you should probably push for that well that's why that's also pressure they don't know

05:42:42.800 if the man feels the same way yeah well better find out sooner than later right yeah but i think

05:42:47.920 there's also like a stigma around it especially if you like being our age like stigma like a like a

05:42:53.120 way people like view it at least how guys view it if you're like especially at our age like if you're

05:42:58.480 in a talking stage with someone and it's like going on forever like to the guy you might just be like

05:43:03.520 someone he's talking to like if you're texting him first like he's texting someone else first

05:43:08.000 but i want to i do actually want to give this advice to women um so you can just entirely avoid

05:43:14.400 a situationship or just getting strung along or just being like used as a uh for sex um

05:43:23.600 you shouldn't be do this thing of like well i'm gonna wait a couple months and then like check in

05:43:28.400 uh that's how you get into a situationship just be super up front but ask him on the 0.92

05:43:33.520 fucking if you really you should only i i think women you should only date a guy who you have the 1.00

05:43:39.520 who you see yourself having those feelings for who you will have those feelings for but you also want 0.99

05:43:45.040 him to have those feelings for you so i think very quickly early on you should be like put the

05:43:51.440 pressure on i did that and i got let on yeah well he would like crack under pressure and he would

05:43:58.640 respond to me and everything but he just like wasn't there and also i feel like and that's

05:44:03.680 actually like that's it i was i was like talking to him he was just responding that's it but if he's

05:44:07.680 scared if he's scared away then i don't think he's really like don't you want to like be with someone

05:44:15.360 that like really fucking likes you and you really fucking like them do you want to be in the 0.91

05:44:20.320 situation where you're like you're on the fence about them they are on the fence about you don't 0.98

05:44:24.800 you want that like mutual like really strong desire yeah but if a man is initiating the first date or a

05:44:32.400 man is asking for marriage then wouldn't the man also say i have i think i feel like i'm developing

05:44:37.680 really strong feelings can we have this conversation like why is it only the i think it's obviously a

05:44:42.560 mutual thing once again where you're communicating you're saying like hey we're really hitting it off and

05:44:47.600 whatever and you may open the topic and the conversation but not necessarily being the one

05:44:53.920 that's putting the pressure and saying when are you going to give me the girlfriend title or when 0.98

05:44:58.080 are you gonna like we we hear a lot about i mean i see a lot about it people women putting pressure 0.99

05:45:03.600 on like when are when's the rock where's the rock where's the and and there's like a negative

05:45:08.480 connotation to it so i mean that's i think that you know pushing for the you know that is a bigger 0.94

05:45:15.360 commitment than just pushing for like let's be monogamous let's be exclusive fuck you can ask 1.00

05:45:20.480 that real quick as a woman yeah but if we're not asking if we're not wired to ask those other things 0.66

05:45:25.760 then how could you expect for us to ask the one in the middle do you get what i'm saying like i am

05:45:30.720 wired to ask those but what problem is that when i do even when i've tried to date a man who says he

05:45:35.680 has these more traditional values and he's like oh yeah we're really hitting it off and he's so in and

05:45:40.560 it's all the way it's like it's it's so mutual um then i say okay i'm deleting the apps i want

05:45:47.040 to be with you like let's do this and then he's like oh this is a lot um i don't know if i can

05:45:52.080 handle this and even the men who say they're so traditional and it's like happened to me this is

05:45:58.640 why i've been single for so long even when i've been trying to date again because they just ghost

05:46:03.040 they ghost so it's really hard to find the guy if the guy really likes you oh well yeah sure if the guy

05:46:09.520 really likes you and you start leaning on him yeah on the third date and you lean on him like hey i

05:46:16.960 want commitment i want monogamy i want boyfriend girlfriend relationship and he's like i don't

05:46:23.200 know he's just not that into i think he kind of just wants to keep you around for sex for a couple

05:46:27.520 months and then like i look i know it seems like whoa it's a bit too much too soon but if he really 0.98

05:46:34.080 likes you and you fucking lean on him and it's like yeah okay i might lose this chick if i like 0.99

05:46:40.640 well the last time that i like hooked up with somebody it was kind of a situation like that 0.99

05:46:45.360 and then and that was the time i decided i'm not doing this anymore like i am not hooking up with

05:46:50.960 some guy before we have this thing figured out like what we both want where where this might be going

05:46:56.800 because it hurts like it hurts terribly when that happens and then you're right he just wants to keep you

05:47:02.240 on the line for sex and yeah look and i think relationships can also develop on a slower

05:47:08.400 timeline too you can start out a bit more casual maybe there's even other people in the picture

05:47:12.880 and it could eventually get to you know something more serious it happens all the time but i personally

05:47:19.280 i take perhaps maybe this is a radical approach like i prefer moving i prefer erring on the side of

05:47:25.600 moving a bit too quickly than too slowly yes and so like if i really like a girl like i don't know

05:47:34.400 you should go for it yeah i'm not gonna do this like fence sitting thing you know yeah and and i but

05:47:40.000 i think women haven't even should be even more motivated because like men like a lot of men hey if

05:47:45.920 we can be sleeping with a bunch of random chicks at the same time not random but if we can like have a 1.00

05:47:50.880 roster whatever yeah they'll do it but like as a woman i feel like most women some women are fine 0.98

05:47:56.720 with that i guess i feel like most y'all don't want to really be around with multiple dudes no i think

05:48:02.400 most women don't want that i do not i could be wrong i don't know but that's why i think there's 0.54

05:48:09.360 that's why if it's more important for you as a woman to get the commitment i mean i'm giving you advice 0.98

05:48:13.760 for from for the women here like lean on lean heavy on the dude lean heavy all right i will 0.99

05:48:24.160 moving on we have macy here oh wait actually last thing with you you said you shouldn't be getting 0.81

05:48:29.200 left on delivered for hours he just doesn't care it's like you text him and he's just not responding

05:48:33.440 yeah a lot of girls will be like oh he left me on delivered for like 15 hours he's just busy he's

05:48:38.000 just like doing this would you ever leave guys on delivered or do you respond right away i'll leave

05:48:42.000 them on delivered if i don't care about them yeah well so then they don't care about you then 0.63

05:48:45.760 yeah exactly well actually that's not true like my friends even who will be like making excuses for

05:48:52.400 guys who will leave them on delivered for hours at a time and i'm just like he really just doesn't

05:48:55.840 care about you yeah yeah they'll prioritize if they want to it's just like any business unless they

05:49:00.640 have like legitimate reasons obviously i actually my perspective on this as somebody who's like

05:49:05.760 incredibly busy uh yeah i'm leaving you on i'm leaving i'm not responding yeah but these college

05:49:10.960 guys aren't yeah in terms of the people that we're talking they're not like they're on their

05:49:15.360 phones like they're just deciding not to respond some of them will be like oh i'm just not on my

05:49:19.680 phone like that like that's not true you just don't care yeah and if they really do care then they

05:49:24.240 would take the time that two seconds out of the day that it would take to respond but i i definitely

05:49:28.720 like i could genuinely really like a girl and like take forever to respond well i think it's different

05:49:34.240 that's a little yeah 18 year olds are very different sure uh macy you said if you met

05:49:38.640 them on the dating app he's not your man you're just on the roster but wouldn't this apply the

05:49:42.480 other way around too yeah i think it would well yeah no like so so many of my couples met on dating

05:49:50.400 apps i agree and i think from the college like a lot of this is from the college somewhere it did

05:49:56.640 start somewhere but especially with dating apps like like tinder like the people on that that are on

05:50:02.640 there at our age they're not looking for like long-term relationships and they are like not

05:50:06.880 necessarily going on like first dates with people but they're swiping and talking to like every

05:50:11.920 single match like it's not like and they're being direct they're asking right away hey you're pretty

05:50:16.960 and you say hey thanks dtf yeah like really i get that literally men that will sit at a table and

05:50:23.760 super swipe no literally and i've seen someone do that i'm like what yeah and i think it's like

05:50:29.040 there has been like i feel like i've definitely been hearing about it more often like

05:50:32.320 not a whole lot of people but some of my friends um that are a little bit older like they'll say that

05:50:36.320 they've been like they met a guy on a dating app and they were hooking up for a really long time and

05:50:39.840 then it turned into a relationship but that like really doesn't often happen like that's definitely

05:50:44.240 that's rare yeah yeah it's rare and i feel like people who go on to dating apps like that and are like

05:50:50.000 like religiously hooking up with this like one guy like he's probably also hooking up with other

05:50:53.680 people and they'll think that it's eventually going to get there but like nine times out of ten it's not

05:50:58.160 ever going to get there the other thing you said you said if you hook up on the first day or night

05:51:02.320 you're never going to be more than that so you're just kind of stern um my message um yeah i mean

05:51:07.280 we were discussing this last night and i just feel like if they're gonna hook up with you on the first

05:51:11.840 date then they don't like really respect like they'll well you put it well sorry god i just said that

05:51:19.440 personally like if i like hypothetically were to pick up hook up with a guy i just think he

05:51:26.880 doesn't like respect me and it's vice versa you know i'm not gonna throw it down and say oh like

05:51:33.840 he should respect me or i respected him because i slept with him first like no i just that's my

05:51:38.320 personal opinion if you disagree and you think he respects you then i agree honestly like if you're on

05:51:43.680 the first date and he's like trying to make a move like that that's kind of like okay like you don't

05:51:48.560 respect me and it's all it's on the girl too no i actually disagree on this but okay i have more

05:51:53.840 experience let us know yeah i was just gonna say like from the girl's perspective too like if you

05:51:58.320 end up doing it like you just have to understand that like it's not gonna don't expect it don't

05:52:03.360 expect it you can't expect them to be doing that with like every first sure exactly well but here's

05:52:08.800 the thing right it's not clear to me if you were to make that guy wait for this till the second date

05:52:14.000 third date fourth date fifth date however long you make him wait obviously you know the some men

05:52:19.600 just are not gonna wait for example like three months or something um but it's not clear to me that

05:52:27.120 he would then take you into consideration for a long-term relationship even if you made him wait

05:52:34.800 i think and i've talked to a few guys and just to add one thing even the guy let's say the guy

05:52:40.000 would want a long-term relationship with you but you sleep with him on the first date it's not clear

05:52:45.600 to me if that would be a like that would preclude that would then all of a sudden he would totally

05:52:52.320 shift and not want to be in a long-term relationship with you yeah because there's i understand where

05:52:56.960 you're coming from and i know we also talked about like the box theory like if he met you like you know

05:53:01.120 what's that they like people say like guys like they'll put you in a box when they first meet you like

05:53:05.440 the girlfriend box or like the hookup box and it's hard to like switch boxes um but just like

05:53:10.720 even talking from guys that we like know that are our age it they'll even say like if they're hooking

05:53:15.600 up with the girl like on the first date and she'll like agree to hook up with them then she's not like

05:53:19.760 girlfriend material like she's probably sleeping with all these guys yeah some people do have 1.00

05:53:23.760 certainly something that comes with age i think that comes with age honestly because i i also disagree i

05:53:29.200 think i have plenty of girlfriends that are in their 30s that have told me like

05:53:33.040 like first date sex and they've had like long-term committed relationships even got married you

05:53:39.120 know it's just you have to use your discernment your discretion and see like is the connection there

05:53:43.680 but i would not advise most women to do that because i think most of the time it's not going 1.00

05:53:48.800 to pan out into something why women like it goes both ways i think i think people are you like especially

05:53:54.800 women i i was told to read a book by some of my girlfriends early in the dating um journey and i felt

05:54:02.480 like everything i was hearing was like this power play of women abstaining or withholding sex 0.95

05:54:08.640 but only to kind of like egg on and get more and more investment from the man into the relationship

05:54:16.080 which i don't necessarily agree with either like that's like a bargaining chip i i agree with you on

05:54:22.320 this i mean i've had most of almost actually all of my long-term relationships i've had a five-year

05:54:29.280 two-year one year like you know some some that were shorter six months nine months i don't know

05:54:33.760 if i call consider those fully long-term relationships uh all these women that i had

05:54:39.680 good relation you know sometimes relationships don't always you know continue on forever but they

05:54:44.320 can still have been good right relationships um it wasn't like oh let's wait three months it was like

05:54:51.120 typically like first second or third date we had sex well yeah for all my long-term relationships

05:54:57.040 and then i've had you know shorter term things where you know wait wait five dates and then

05:55:05.440 doesn't go anywhere too so um i uh i don't i mean i think there would be better indicators than like

05:55:13.520 how quickly i think the a bigger thing would be like where are you meeting them so like yeah if

05:55:19.840 if like you're at a uh like a party in isla vista you're at you know you're at a frat party and the guy

05:55:25.600 wants to hook up with you that night yeah obviously but if the guy like if the uh the context in which

05:55:32.640 you're meeting is perhaps like i don't know you've been talking for a while maybe he um you met in

05:55:38.320 class or something i think the context there is a bit different because you've built essentially a

05:55:44.000 friendship or relationship yeah i mean i certainly wouldn't make somebody wait forever to sleep with

05:55:48.720 me but i would just want to know it's going beyond maybe one date i mean unless there's like insane

05:55:53.680 chemistry but in my experience like i've had those moments and it did not pan out and i had hurt

05:55:59.600 feelings after because i can't sleep with somebody without having some degree of feelings involved it's

05:56:03.680 just who i am yeah like if for example if i if i met a girl and i'm like i like this girl

05:56:11.440 i see potential long-term uh you know i mean it's possible after it's possible after we hook

05:56:19.600 up then the crazy comes out or something but like right i mean i don't think if i had her in the like 0.97

05:56:27.440 in relationship i mean i don't even have like a hookup category though for me like if i have sex 0.99

05:56:33.040 with a girl i'm gonna see her again absent her doing some crazy shit like post-sex like she'd have 1.00

05:56:39.440 to try to stab me or some shit i don't know i guess i would then i wouldn't see her again if 0.98

05:56:43.440 she tried to stab me has not frequently been my experience if i've done it uh quickly i'll say that 0.95

05:56:49.600 but it's not impossible it just has not been my personal experience but i would yeah for me it

05:56:54.240 wouldn't be but i mean like if there's an undeniable connection like of course like you're i'm human i

05:56:59.680 would like to it's hard to not want to explore that with someone if you feel like it's there but then i

05:57:04.720 also wouldn't like refuse to continue seeing a girl if she was like well i want to wait a little

05:57:10.080 bit yeah although i wouldn't i don't think i would be down to wait like some crazy extended period of

05:57:14.720 time yeah especially especially if she's had sex with guys quickly previous to me then i'm like okay 0.67

05:57:21.920 hold on what's going like i mean you're entitled you're entitled you could you could have had sex with 0.92

05:57:27.120 you could have had sex with a hundred men on the first date and then you roll the dice and you land 0.74

05:57:32.720 on me and then you want to wait until marriage you're allowed to do that as a woman to say well 1.00

05:57:38.880 all the other guys i dated i fucked them right away but now that i want a relationship with you 0.98

05:57:44.080 i want to wait six months i want to wait there's not a high likelihood that that would happen i feel 0.95

05:57:47.680 like well actually there's a lot of well especially women involved in the church who yes yes used to be 0.92

05:57:54.000 promiscuous but then now they were you know born again okay now you want to wait until marriage

05:57:59.200 um well the one thing i would say to that is that yeah that's a loaded that's a loaded combo but i

05:58:04.880 agree but the one thing i would say to that is that um like in that context i think it would

05:58:10.480 really depend how recently in the past those like a million guys she slept with right away kind of 0.94

05:58:15.760 thing is um how much time there's been between that because sure i think if somebody's having some

05:58:21.120 like massive religious conviction like you have to like you can't always hold somebody to their past or

05:58:26.080 else they'll never grow and learn but i do understand you being like well why the hell

05:58:30.400 should i wait if no one else ever had to you know so i can understand both sides i do think you can

05:58:37.200 you absolutely can hold people to their past your past has consequences yes now can you be redeemed

05:58:44.320 like if we're talking from like a christian worldview you can absolutely be redeemed and turn your life

05:58:49.920 around yes but men are not obliged yeah you know to accept that and yes essentially be forced no no

05:59:00.080 and they shouldn't be and they shouldn't be obliged and they shouldn't be forced but i do think it's

05:59:04.080 just you know well i mean there's so there's forgiveness in christianity but uh there's also the

05:59:10.720 fact that like those things are still going to cause like those sins in your life are going to cause you

05:59:17.760 hardship yes sin is negative in your life it's going to be negative effects are going to come

05:59:22.800 with that yeah so you you have to understand both those things moving to natalie that's how you say

05:59:29.440 your name right natalia natalia you wanted to talk about aftercare what did you mean we did these all

05:59:35.680 together a lot of them are like the same basically like just like the concept of aftercare like with

05:59:41.440 hookups yeah do you guys know aftercare is like cuddling like he just tells you are you talking

05:59:46.720 no like after you're talking like bdsm what is that like whoa well i thought aftercare was in the

05:59:55.600 context of like bdsm no there's like a concept but at least for like i feel like in hookup culture

06:00:01.600 it's like there's this thing well it probably originates from bdsm but okay so it's nothing crazy

06:00:07.760 it's just so basically uh explain it yeah explain that um okay so aftercare basically is like

06:00:14.960 you hook up with someone or you could even be in a relationship and it's like you have like a sex

06:00:19.680 and everything and it's not just an immediate like all right like get up let's go like throw a towel

06:00:25.840 on you no it's like a cuddling like just like reassurance i guess bonding it's a love after

06:00:32.560 oh and then just love bombing it is love bombing wait why are you looking at me mads because you

06:00:37.600 were looking at me no you started you started looking so you're talking about like the expectations

06:00:42.320 even if it's just a hookup like there needs to be a little bit something no i feel like we actually

06:00:45.840 it's a hot take that like you don't want like if you're gonna hook up i feel like it's a really big

06:00:52.560 thing here even when you're in a way in a relationship that's different if you're in a

06:00:57.680 relationship yeah wait so you guys are saying if you guys are hooking up with a guy you don't want

06:01:02.400 the guy to like do all those affectionate like post-sex cuddle like that kind of if the guy knows

06:01:08.240 that he's not gonna be like actually like interested in you after and like trying to pursue you in a

06:01:12.880 relationship form and you hook up with this guy and he like crazily love bombs you like it's telling

06:01:17.600 you like you're all this and that and then like the next day is just like bye like this is like not

06:01:22.480 chatting you ever again like it's just i feel like it builds this delusion for a lot of girls

06:01:31.440 that they'll like start hyping up this guy and then they're like hooked on this person

06:01:34.720 when really he was just doing that to like do it in the moment it's just it's not like a terrible

06:01:39.440 thing but so what would be some examples of like aftercare it would be after you like sleep with the

06:01:45.200 guy like you're there and he's just like love bombing you like telling you you're all like you're

06:01:50.240 amazing and you're all this and that and like acting almost acting like he's your boyfriend

06:01:53.600 for the night or whatever time span you're in and then just like pretending like he doesn't even

06:01:58.960 know you the next day like he's gonna give you all this attention and all this like uh like admiring

06:02:04.160 you is it but so what's the context of the hookup do you are you guys just meeting at a party yeah like

06:02:08.480 they're meeting you at a party and then you're like going home like in that sense you know

06:02:12.480 i'm assuming there's like i mean there's probably been alcohol yeah uh well i mean a lot of people

06:02:17.680 like will do these hookups maybe the both men women maybe it's pure i don't know uh guys like

06:02:25.760 cuddling too i guess but same with you like if they're like what's the example of after care that

06:02:31.440 these guys are doing like what we just said like cuddling and like just being overly effective i don't

06:02:36.640 think we would say and what about you no yeah it's the same thing i just don't want them to be doing

06:02:42.160 that if like they don't actually care but so just to be clear you'd prefer the guy i'd to just like

06:03:02.480 like like literally come and then just immediately just stop stop and be like you can leave no

06:03:11.200 your uber's outside the best form after would be like pay for my uber home like that would be like

06:03:17.680 oh no but like i would be like so offended we're talking in college context here if it's a hookup you're

06:03:24.400 at a party you're drunk you hook up with this guy it's a mutual agreement that all right let's get on

06:03:28.400 our way pretend this never happened but the thing is i think a lot of like a lot of it's like a sad

06:03:33.680 attempt to make it not emotional yeah one of our friends like fully expects it and she gets upset

06:03:40.320 if he doesn't like provide aftercare but at the end of the day you met him at a party he didn't owe

06:03:44.640 you aftercare you guys aren't well i yeah i don't think i don't think you're owed aftercare but like

06:03:49.040 the also the opposite side that's like inhumane to not do it though it's like why are you even

06:03:54.240 connecting sexually if there's no we're also talking about in a sense of you're going to a

06:04:00.160 party you're just hooking up yeah like obviously it's not going to go anywhere yeah and you said

06:04:05.840 it's inhumane for them not to do it which like i do understand your viewpoint on that but i feel like

06:04:10.880 it's almost like it hurts more for them to do it because they give you all this hype that like they

06:04:15.120 think you're like this and they're into you and then like for them to just like don't hook up with

06:04:20.160 i think yeah i don't think alcohol should be involved at all like meaning that i don't like

06:04:29.440 maybe once you're dating like i agree yeah you have a night out whenever you both go home together

06:04:34.640 yeah i think just putting alcohol in the i i mean i think it's but i don't know i think it's

06:04:41.040 definitely a hot take well for the but so you would prefer you just hooked up with the guy for the guy to 1.00

06:04:47.920 be like you don't exist by i don't want it to be i don't want it to be too dickish but he's just 0.67

06:04:57.200 like he literally like he comes gets up and he's like uh yeah you can go no it's not the context we

06:05:05.360 were talking about though it's like if it did happen where he did do that i'm not going to be like

06:05:10.160 upset and like hold it against him because you'd be more upset if he treated you no it's not that he

06:05:15.360 treated you well it's that he like i love it he's love bombing you like it's totally you just want

06:05:19.520 him to be up front yeah it's but it's but if it is love bombing if it's just sex what difference does

06:05:25.600 it really make because i think the thing is we can delude ourselves into thinking during these hookups

06:05:30.000 because i've done them we delude ourselves into thinking like we can separate our feelings if this

06:05:34.880 happens or that happens or whatever most of the time as a woman subconsciously even if you're not

06:05:40.560 aware of it you have those feelings innately regardless of whether he cuddles you or whether

06:05:45.120 he doesn't it's i think it's very hard to separate sex from feelings i think some women might be okay 0.93

06:05:51.280 with this but i think it would actually be a terrible advice to give men yes because like

06:05:56.080 if you're going to just like they're not saying like disrespect we're not saying like

06:06:00.400 but it would respectfully just like help her like it was nice to meet you or like she could like like

06:06:06.560 yeah i think respectfully it would be like don't take her to bed if you don't have intentions

06:06:13.280 i completely agree with that but like in the context of like like i love this pop culture yeah

06:06:21.280 like it's bad one way or like whatever this is just like a hot take we have and in like

06:06:25.680 the context of how like isla vista works and how like people in this community

06:06:33.360 it's just like we're kind of just saying like we like if you're gonna do that you have to be

06:06:36.800 realistic like as a girl like you can't have false hope that this hookup is gonna yeah and we are 0.98

06:06:41.120 talking about like the delusion but it's very hard it's very hard for a woman to separate those that 0.95

06:06:47.440 false hope it's very hard to separate your feelings from a sexual encounter no matter what you

06:06:51.280 you're gonna discard her just be up front with it like yeah don't like from the from the jump

06:06:56.160 exactly and let the woman decide okay like i'm cool with it yeah and then go we agree with you

06:07:01.440 we're just saying like that doesn't happen either way it should be a conversation beforehand i would

06:07:06.320 think like this is just sex and that's it be respectful no we think you should but like we're

06:07:12.960 saying that as a girl you can't get mad if they don't yeah like obviously if it does

06:07:17.360 like this is like totally contradictory yeah let me read this from ben george he said trying to

06:07:22.560 clarify or alissa could you read it oh yeah trying to clarify if the man is to pay for the first date

06:07:30.080 because he asked for it is the man responsible if you get pregnant when do you bear some responsibility 0.57

06:07:35.840 who pays the consequence a kid i don't know if i still really understand it so i mean if the man is

06:07:44.560 to pay for the first date because he asked for it i think he's talking about like having to pay child

06:07:48.640 support and stuff like that if the female decides to keep the kid well if you have consensual sex 0.81

06:07:54.800 then you're it's a risk both people took for it yeah i don't know where it comes into like paying for

06:08:03.200 the first date situation but because a kid is not the same as a first date but like i guess where i'm

06:08:08.160 confused is he's saying like if the man pays for the first date like these are two separate things

06:08:16.880 yeah that's where i'm confused so like one doesn't necessarily follow the other like yeah doesn't even

06:08:25.440 compare i guess i could just generally ask you guys is the man responsible if you get pregnant

06:08:32.880 is that the question i'm still confused i think it's mutual yeah yeah when does the man bear some

06:08:42.480 responsibility i would say to an extent you know of course and it's like as much takes two people to

06:08:49.360 have sex when you're going into it you know that that's might be a consequence i guess to his point

06:08:54.080 it takes two people to go on a date yeah so or you're saying because i'm not making his argument i'm

06:08:59.760 just like yeah yeah but because trying to be as charitable as possible well legally legally in the

06:09:05.120 event of a child both both people would be responsible for the child so uh sorry ben george

06:09:13.120 if that's not satisfactory but oh boy we got shit um hold on let's see here after care 0.85

06:09:21.840 well what about if you're even dating the guy and he's your boyfriend but he's like 0.81

06:09:25.280 oh that's that's different we just mean like sorry i didn't mean to interrupt just in the

06:09:32.320 context of hookup culture because that is so big here it's like a falsehood and thinking that you're

06:09:36.640 going to get more than you're going to get in a relationship then yeah aftercare is obviously

06:09:40.720 important and making it it's a reassurance all right uh let's see moving on to alex here you said that

06:09:46.720 uh let's see looking at my notes here i'd love you wanted to talk about submission you're all for it

06:09:57.040 yeah okay yeah i just think that it's one of those things that everyone thinks it's such a terrible

06:10:07.040 word and i'm just on the side of like i would submit to someone who's worthy of submission and that

06:10:14.960 doesn't mean that like the bowing video like right because you said brian's idea of submission and

06:10:19.600 bowing you wanted what did i say were you against it um or you're i think yeah i'm for it i think that

06:10:28.240 people just assume like submission means that like you're a slave that you're in a dictatorship in a

06:10:33.520 relationship but that's not that's not my viewpoint like i think i do i do agree with gender roles i do

06:10:40.880 believe that men and women are created differently not you know one's more valuable than the other

06:10:46.720 but um we are we are made with specific um roles to be fulfilled and that doesn't mean that like a

06:10:55.760 boy has to like blue and a girl has to like pink like not like that but i think we're we're supposed

06:10:59.600 to be a partnership although um the man should have the leadership role but that doesn't mean that the

06:11:07.280 woman is like you know a zero in the equation right so um yeah i just wanted to touch on that i guess 1.00

06:11:17.040 okay yeah and looking at your other notes here you said uh marriage is not just a contract actually

06:11:24.000 first height difference what was your thing on that i think i was listening to one episode once

06:11:28.160 here you just asked like about height difference and people caring a lot about that so i'm like i'm

06:11:32.720 5'10 like i'm a tall girl so that's always been something i've thought about i've always wanted

06:11:36.960 to be with a guy that's taller than me um but i will say that like as i've gotten older i've cared

06:11:44.000 a lot less about that my boyfriend is taller than me he's like six two or three i don't know okay we'll

06:11:49.200 go around the table really quickly on this uh how tall are you and what's the bare minimum height

06:11:54.000 five six five nine and five three like five six five two five six five five five ten you say the

06:12:03.120 minimum height that we would accept yeah what's your height bare minimum height my height's five

06:12:07.600 foot four and i sorry five foot four and i would say like i don't know five five five six i'll take take

06:12:14.000 it five three and five six okay we have uh i'm not going to be able to get to everybody's notes

06:12:23.760 unfortunately so if any of you we could always have you some of you back to hit on everything but

06:12:28.480 i will try to hit on a few for you two a few of your things and then we will try to wrap up here

06:12:34.160 soon so let's see we have uh diana what you mentioned something about fail fast girl what's that

06:12:42.640 um well you were kind of like talking about it even like you get to know someone you kind of explore

06:12:49.040 like are we potentially a good match or not if not then done move on to like the next person to get

06:12:55.520 to know them see if they're a good match whereas other people kind of just like prolong you know

06:13:02.240 the dating process so so what is the fail what does that mean to be a fail fast girl well my i mean my

06:13:10.000 girlfriends called me that in the beginning because they were like you need to give a you 1.00

06:13:13.360 need to give guys a lot more time and whatnot and my position was i've gotten to know them

06:13:19.200 in a conversation like i'm not interested there's no reason for me to give more time or dedicate more

06:13:23.360 time to this you know dating situation okay uh let's see here then uh field uh looking at some of my

06:13:36.400 notes i might come back to some of your stuff here in just a sec missy you said that you made a lot of

06:13:42.560 bad decisions you're promiscuous you do agree with a lot of what the podcast is saying but i also think

06:13:49.360 you say you also think that we fail to point out that everyone has character flaws even if they have

06:13:54.800 low body counts and more importantly that there are ways that women and men but especially women can

06:13:58.880 redeem themselves if you ever want to oh you'd be thrilled to okay uh you said you're a former far

06:14:05.760 left now politically moderate conservative former feminist now someone who falls between center and

06:14:10.160 traditional um i think we already talked about the redemption thing uh so i mean i don't know where

06:14:20.480 what really the argument is but so um for example even if a woman has changed her life and stopped being

06:14:30.000 promiscuous um i think a man can absolutely consider a woman's past promiscuity even if she stopped being 0.54

06:14:37.440 promiscuous and disqualify her as a potential partner do you disagree with that i don't disagree

06:14:43.600 with that but i do think that um i think that like context in that situation matters in terms of like

06:14:50.560 is she screwing around people like a week ago like is is her promiscuous past like a week or a month ago or 1.00

06:14:56.800 whatever like how long ago it is sure um i would also say like what she has done to sort of change

06:15:01.680 her life but i do also think like a man's past is if he has been like promiscuous is as relevant in my

06:15:08.720 opinion um i would i would consider like if a man's been with like 200 women i would also want to maybe

06:15:15.520 disqualify him but i think it's like worthy of having a conversation i i think like some people do grow and

06:15:21.600 change i think a lot of people don't and they carry a lot of that baggage with them um yeah i i think

06:15:28.320 that's yeah and you said in the pre-show notes although i do have a high body count you said around

06:15:33.280 60 yep uh i haven't actually had a lot of uh sex because the vast majority of those were maybe once or

06:15:39.520 twice yeah person 95 of the sex you've had outside of a relationship was under the influence of alcohol yeah um

06:15:47.440 um i think that like like in that sense like you guys have talked about pair bonds maybe not so much

06:15:53.600 tonight but in the past um i feel like alcohol like sort of inhibits that a little bit like i

06:15:59.280 personally don't really think of the people i've been with i don't feel like i have these like

06:16:03.440 these horrible ties to them that i just can't shake or anything like that i don't know if i

06:16:08.160 would carry all that into my relationship i think i've done in eight years of being single even if some

06:16:13.440 of that i was still in addiction i've done a lot of work on myself and self-reflection to figure out

06:16:18.480 what i've been doing wrong um i think a lot of people don't take that time they just jump from

06:16:23.280 relationship to relationship or person to person and yeah so i take accountability for my past i i

06:16:28.880 totally do i wish i could change it i wish i did something different but i didn't and i hope a man

06:16:33.520 doesn't hold that against me someday got it and i have so many notes from you i know it's so late

06:16:39.520 we can't that's all right if you're down we'd love to have you back sometime i would love that

06:16:43.040 garrett i can make you a commitment that we'd be able to get through much more of it yeah i mean

06:16:48.240 same with you potentially but just for you two since i have i wasn't able to get through all your

06:16:52.560 notes just so i can give you each one last thing i guess um is there one specific topic or anything

06:16:57.840 that you did provide in your notes that you would like to talk about and then i'll have you go after

06:17:01.600 if there's one last thing that each of you would like to hit on i guess that i would just want to say

06:17:06.240 like in terms of where we're at as a culture and a society with this hookup culture and modern dating

06:17:12.000 i think that men need to have as much responsibility as women even if women are the gatekeepers of sex 1.00

06:17:16.960 i think the way men conduct themselves in terms of trying to acquire that sex is as important as the

06:17:22.480 women who are not gatekeeping so i think we're all responsible for the mess we're in and it's going to 1.00

06:17:27.360 take all of us to live a little differently and to do things a little differently to change the mess we're

06:17:31.440 in okay all right and anything from you um i think my like biggest and final thought and honestly like

06:17:40.400 what i stand for the most is um i'm hoping that you know men as well but women specifically because

06:17:47.200 i am a woman and i speak for myself that they really do you know get educated um learn about covert

06:17:54.480 abuse learn about narcissistic abuse learn about healthy relationship communication strategies things like

06:18:00.720 that um that way you can actually approach dating in a safe and in a um productive more productive way

06:18:10.080 that way you know you have you you have less traumas that you bring into your later adult life you know

06:18:18.240 so that's one one thing that i would say that i've really learned from my like fast and furious dating

06:18:25.120 experience that's fair okay we're going to do a 10-minute segment here actually wait before i do

06:18:31.440 that uh here we'll do it really quick uh we're going to do a chaos called the whatever chaos segment

06:18:38.240 tts is now 20 for the last 10 minutes of the show so if any of you psychos out there want to send

06:18:43.840 anything in uh the trigger is now 20 we'll do that for 10 minutes then we're going to wrap

06:18:48.640 um if you can switch it up on twitch for any of the mods let me just make sure i change everything

06:18:55.120 on here uh so you said uh body count 60 plus yeah uh no around 60 just right around question for the

06:19:02.240 ladies uh would you object to a man caring about body count and i guess starting with you and then 1.00

06:19:06.880 we'll go around the table caring caring a what caring about oh a woman's body count your body count 1.00

06:19:13.440 do i think they should care do you would you object to it would you feel like that shouldn't matter

06:19:17.440 it's insecure no i wouldn't you don't object i would not object to it i don't care therefore

06:19:22.960 i think they should not care oh you don't care about a man's body count therefore so you would

06:19:27.440 object then to if i understand correctly you would object to a man caring about body count yeah okay

06:19:35.920 you would object to it um so you think men shouldn't care about a woman's body i think

06:19:40.880 mutually yeah okay manson no what about you um i think nickelodeon donated 99 dollars lesson of the

06:19:50.240 night hit that bow and don't come up till there's mayo in that mcchicken what the

06:19:56.240 hit that now crazy glass i wouldn't i wouldn't object unless like if they had a really high one and then

06:20:03.680 they were like upset about with their girlfriend because she had a high one i think that's like

06:20:07.840 unfair and i would object yes but otherwise i wouldn't no totally you don't object okay so

06:20:14.160 sorry ask the question again there's like so is it a problem if he cares do you object to men caring

06:20:20.080 about women's body count oh i don't object loose energy donated 20 dollars you let him hit it raw 0.98

06:20:28.240 this is you didn't have second thoughts now you're a single mom now you're a single mom you said i'm

06:20:34.480 have his kids don't care if he's here or not now you're a single mom yep baby rage at the end of 1.00

06:20:40.720 it at the end of his cts it was like a face i'm not sure i don't know um hold on one sec i'm getting

06:20:51.920 a couple things changed up here we're doing this any while that's oh uh not yet hold on uh okay so going

06:21:00.160 around the table once more what's your body count starting with you well i said around 60 i don't

06:21:06.160 know the exact number i'm guessing sure that's that's it um i don't want to disclose do you want

06:21:11.440 to give a if you don't want to give an exact number are you cool with like a range like there's no range

06:21:16.560 it's not like above double digits i just don't want to talk i don't want to say it nope wait but hold on i

06:21:24.720 i thought it doesn't matter it doesn't matter and this is why i'm not going to talk about it

06:21:29.760 obviously if i talk about it with anyone it would be my person okay can i make a little amendment and

06:21:34.720 just say but i haven't slept with i slept with two people in six years i just want to be clear it's

06:21:38.800 not like a very recent thing uh going around the table with the question this is a pass is this a

06:21:45.280 pass maddie okay what about you oh it's it's only two two two okay no comment pass range zero comments

06:21:59.360 range range i give you opportunity for range no so i'm the only one who bared her soul

06:22:04.800 are you gonna give us a range brian oh i don't share my body yes that's the one thing i had already

06:22:10.000 pre-decided i fully object to that because i feel like if it's relevant and to ask people you should

06:22:16.560 be made donated twenty dollars to the future cop that won't take a bullet would you help girl in

06:22:22.720 orange get out of her terrible 14-year abusive relationship that she had five kids with 1.00

06:22:29.680 how does anything to do with anything ben george donated twenty dollars sorry for being so confusing

06:22:36.800 wish you all the best thank you ben george appreciate it you're legend ben george appreciate

06:22:43.360 it you are a legend sir and a scholar thank you thank you sir thank you thank you very much

06:22:50.000 uh let me check a couple things here uh any final thoughts from anybody else on the panel

06:22:56.240 anything going once going twice i know we went late jayekin donated twenty dollars

06:23:04.160 let the bear pay for the first date and take the bullet long mason congrats on your enrollment

06:23:10.640 thanks jay i appreciate it yes congrats congrats man congrats yo jay wait we dude jay we showed your

06:23:17.040 photo nick pull up the bear photo oh uh the the photo of the guy that was jay that's jay oh oh that's

06:23:24.080 that's jay yeah he was like brian please i need to let's go j six hundred and ninety six six

06:23:30.080 Sextillion nine hundred and sixty nine quintillion six hundred and ninety six quadrillion nine hundred and sixty nine trillion six hundred and ninety six billion nine hundred and sixty nine million six hundred and ninety six thousand nine hundred and sixty nine donated twenty dollars.

06:23:48.620 Sixty bodies. 0.99

06:23:50.160 Jeebus fucking Christ. 1.00

06:23:52.120 She belongs to the streets. 1.00

06:23:53.600 Yeah.

06:23:54.280 The only reason she wear panties is to keep her ankles warm. 0.99

06:23:58.600 That's so funny.

06:23:59.660 Real Trump donated twenty dollars.

06:24:02.060 Real Trump.

06:24:02.500 Did you guys watch the roast of Tom Brady?

06:24:05.080 I did.

06:24:05.380 The jokes about Kim Kardashian having tons of black guys doing touchdown dances in her end zone comedy.

06:24:11.900 He Joyce.

06:24:12.660 Yeah, I heard that.

06:24:14.160 That was a good.

06:24:14.640 It was a funny.

06:24:15.500 It was a good roast.

06:24:16.660 The roast is hilarious. 0.99

06:24:19.220 Tony Hinchcliffe fucking destroyed it. 0.99

06:24:22.600 Oh, my God. 0.99

06:24:23.780 That was brutal.

06:24:24.960 It was great.

06:24:26.020 It was great.

06:24:27.560 Let's see here.

06:24:28.560 What else?

06:24:29.600 I think we fit on everything.

06:24:31.960 I need to get up for just a sec.

06:24:33.940 We'll just let a few more come through.

06:24:35.820 Guys, the TTS is now twenty.

06:24:37.480 Chaos.

06:24:38.100 Chaos section.

06:24:39.280 Twenty dollar TTS.

06:24:40.400 Look for the bear necessities.

06:24:41.880 The simple bear necessities.

06:24:43.860 Forget about your worries and your strife.

06:24:45.820 I mean the bear necessities.

06:24:46.820 That's why a bear can rest at ease with just the bear necessities of Lee.

06:24:51.740 Don't look.

06:24:52.920 Okay, here we go.

06:24:53.640 Vassla's Normandy donated twenty dollars.

06:24:56.620 We need to bring back old-fashioned values on both sides of the field, but ultimately feminism has deteriorated men. 1.00

06:25:03.720 And also, Brian, next time I got you for backup, bring me on and we'll fight feminism low. 1.00

06:25:09.260 Nice, nice, nice.

06:25:10.240 Master Baker donated twenty dollars.

06:25:14.800 Fake traditional blonde orange shirt is a cautionary tale on dealing with women that are know-it-all. 1.00

06:25:20.900 Insufferable, argumentative woman. 1.00

06:25:23.420 God help any guy she is with. 1.00

06:25:26.500 Scathing review.

06:25:27.700 Wes Watson donated twenty dollars.

06:25:29.800 This is just...

06:25:30.300 Brian, I miss you from the bottom of my heart.

06:25:32.720 You became a victim of the worst possible crime for a man.

06:25:35.740 S.A., in the South Chicago next file a police report.

06:25:40.160 Then you will start to care, B.R.O.

06:25:43.220 Oh, jeez.

06:25:44.720 Another.

06:25:45.220 Nate donated twenty dollars.

06:25:47.500 To the girl that wants a guy to be deceased over a girl getting railed out by everyone.

06:25:52.540 Should Gustavo do the same?

06:25:54.880 Yes.

06:25:55.740 I mean, he is a soldier.

06:25:59.980 Nemesis donated twenty dollars.

06:26:02.700 Excuse the interruption, boss.

06:26:04.620 Oh, seven for Nick.

06:26:06.720 Poor lad had to deal with a rager.

06:26:08.980 W for an OOF panel.

06:26:11.220 Yeah.

06:26:11.620 Oh, seven.

06:26:12.520 No OOF, no OOF. 0.88

06:26:13.740 Yeah, that's kind of wow.

06:26:15.240 Jay Ekin donated twenty dollars.

06:26:17.820 Brian, I didn't beg you.

06:26:19.940 I thought it'd be funny, because in no I look like a convicted murderer.

06:26:23.680 But thank you all the same.

06:26:25.180 Honestly, Jay, you kind of look like a teddy bear.

06:26:27.400 Yeah, he looks cool.

06:26:27.580 I know too many guys like you.

06:26:30.000 Yeah.

06:26:30.300 Chris Charges against Blassie donated twenty dollars.

06:26:33.400 Domestic terrorism is defined by law as involving criminal acts dangerous to human life on U.S. soil that appear intended to coerce a civilian population or influence or affect the government.

06:26:45.580 Yeah, I thought the definition given here was a little strange.

06:26:47.920 Real Trump donated twenty dollars.

06:26:50.560 Gustavo looks like Hitler's dream incarnated. 0.91

06:26:53.500 Blonde hair, blue eyes, and extra white.

06:26:55.980 Hey, Gustavo, I dare you to hold out a high five for ten seconds.

06:27:02.540 Wes Watson donated twenty dollars.

06:27:05.460 The Latina didn't hit or tried to hit Nick. 0.93

06:27:07.800 She just wanted to grab the phone.

06:27:10.120 Because she didn't want to be recorded, I saw IT all clearly on the reflection.

06:27:15.120 Shame on the panel, you guys.

06:27:17.300 I mean, I was here watching it.

06:27:19.380 He donated twenty dollars.

06:27:21.080 I would like to see a Carolina girl on the panel, please.

06:27:25.640 Who is that?

06:27:26.620 I don't know who that is.

06:27:27.960 Carolina girl, if you want to be on the panel, DM whatever.

06:27:31.200 There you go.

06:27:32.300 That's how.

06:27:33.680 Wait, why are you laughing for that one, Gustavo?

06:27:36.200 That's what you would have said.

06:27:37.720 Yeah, exactly.

06:27:38.400 Oh.

06:27:38.720 Yeah, dude.

06:27:39.960 Uh, well, just to answer the previous one.

06:27:42.820 Okay, never mind.

06:27:43.740 Here we go.

06:27:44.000 Kaiju donated twenty dollars.

06:27:46.360 You need an average looking guy on here.

06:27:49.060 The middle class.

06:27:50.520 You always have high maintenance people on here.

06:27:53.860 Hearing from guys like me could be valuable.

06:27:56.780 Don't forget about the little man.

06:27:58.940 Yes.

06:28:00.560 Truth Speaker donated twenty dollars.

06:28:03.760 I'd quote you insecure guys are smoking.

06:28:06.380 The woman in orange is what we need more of today. 0.95

06:28:09.000 She's hot AF, knows what she wants, and actually holds men to a high standard. 1.00

06:28:14.460 Keep doing your thing, please.

06:28:17.440 Okay.

06:28:18.620 Cecilia donated twenty dollars.

06:28:20.680 Hey, thank you guys.

06:28:21.180 Thank you guys for all the messages.

06:28:22.880 Canada, I'd marry you.

06:28:24.680 Maddie, you are great.

06:28:26.360 The young ones read some books.

06:28:28.660 Bridal, where's Andrew?

06:28:32.920 I'll get them on my dining program.

06:28:34.720 D-Underscore-Huge-Underscore-A-B donated twenty dollars.

06:28:39.000 Girl in the black on the right.

06:28:40.860 What if a guy checks every box, but is thirty-three and looks twenty-eight?

06:28:45.280 Could you see yourself being a mom and wife by age twenty-two?

06:28:50.040 Wait, answer.

06:28:51.160 Theda Shinobi donated twenty dollars.

06:28:54.000 Orange Dress was with an abusive guy for fourteen years and gave him five kids.

06:28:58.380 Yikes.

06:28:58.860 She deserved IT.

06:29:00.640 I know she was abusive back.

06:29:02.300 By the way, this is the whatever roast, okay?

06:29:04.760 It's the whatever roast.

06:29:05.700 Don't take it personally, guys.

06:29:07.060 Don't take it personally. 0.97

06:29:07.760 A crazy Chicago Latino, Nick and Brian, come on. 1.00

06:29:10.680 Oh my gosh. 0.97

06:29:12.500 I want the fade.

06:29:13.940 Okay.

06:29:14.560 Yeah.

06:29:16.940 Oh, wait, this is her.

06:29:19.660 I don't know if it's actually.

06:29:22.280 It's probably fake.

06:29:23.360 A lot of scuffed definitions donated twenty dollars.

06:29:27.980 Equity means everyone is provided specific resources they need to be successful.

06:29:33.280 Equality means everyone is treated the same exact way, regardless of differences and specific

06:29:38.940 needs.

06:29:40.320 Word.

06:29:41.100 Yeah.

06:29:41.240 Ben George donated twenty dollars.

06:29:43.500 Hey, thank you, Ben George.

06:29:44.320 Thank you. 0.85

06:29:44.580 A bear asked a rabbit if crap sticks to his fur. 0.95

06:29:48.280 The rabbit said, no. 1.00

06:29:50.200 The bear picked up the rabbit and wiped his ass with him. 1.00

06:29:53.480 No man asked that question of a woman in the woods. 1.00

06:29:56.720 Did they?

06:29:59.140 What?

06:29:59.580 What?

06:29:59.820 What?

06:30:00.780 What?

06:30:01.920 Brian, I wish you from the bottom of my heart you became a victim of the worst possible

06:30:06.420 crime for a man.

06:30:07.760 Essay, in the South Chicago and next file a police report.

06:30:11.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

06:30:12.160 Then you will start to care.

06:30:13.940 BRO.

06:30:16.360 She did technically assault me. 1.00

06:30:18.720 Yeah, she did.

06:30:19.480 Brian, you need to start doing pranks again.

06:30:22.860 This is not what I subscribed for twelve years ago.

06:30:26.380 Uh, this is here to stay, man.

06:30:28.900 This is here to stay.

06:30:30.640 I appreciate the long time support, though.

06:30:32.720 Nickelodeon donated twenty dollars.

06:30:33.800 Yo, thank you, Nickelodeon.

06:30:34.400 Appreciate it.

06:30:34.640 It is sad.

06:30:35.120 The only thing these girls learn in college is to tell boys not to snuggle with them after 1.00

06:30:39.920 course.

06:30:40.200 Yeah, that's crazy.

06:30:41.340 We learn a lot.

06:30:42.100 It's kind of wild.

06:30:42.360 He's not wasting his hard-earned money on your lack of education.

06:30:45.980 Yeah, it's definitely a hot take. 1.00

06:30:48.240 You're crazy. 1.00

06:30:48.680 You're crazy. 1.00

06:30:48.900 Every year I get older, the more I understand Passport Brothers. 0.97

06:30:54.600 41 now, and the West just looks worse and worse every year.

06:30:59.140 Enjoyed the decline.

06:31:00.680 I have.

06:31:01.640 I have.

06:31:02.320 Passport.

06:31:03.060 Passport Brothers.

06:31:03.760 Real Trump donated twenty dollars.

06:31:06.040 Glad to see that the chair where Gore locks sits can still hold the weight of an average

06:31:10.040 American woman.

06:31:11.480 I was worried that the hydraulics might have blown out after the second visit.

06:31:15.520 Yo, Ontarius.

06:31:16.840 Ontarius.

06:31:17.360 Which country did you go to?

06:31:19.280 Are you in South America or Asia?

06:31:22.180 If any guy, including your boyfriend, boss, coworkers, do not enthusiastically vow to protect

06:31:28.860 you, they are not men.

06:31:30.720 Period. 1.00

06:31:31.680 They can cope like a coward, but the best way to die is heroically. 0.93

06:31:35.680 Not old. 0.97

06:31:36.820 Sorry, sorry.

06:31:38.060 And Peterson.

06:31:38.840 She heard you behind the scenes, but she's off camera.

06:31:41.140 Mark Rudolph coined the phrase dating as legal prostitution way back in the late 90s.

06:31:46.120 He's a legend.

06:31:47.740 I'd love to see him as a guest on the podcast.

06:31:50.140 Mark Rudolph.

06:31:51.140 Thanks, Brian, and all whatever stuff for all you.

06:31:53.960 I haven't heard of him.

06:31:57.220 I can check it out, but I mean, an OG would be like Tom Likas.

06:32:02.620 Tom Likas or like maybe Adam Carolla, although he wasn't like, they just kind of gave more

06:32:07.920 like general dating advice, but Tom Likas would be, he lives.

06:32:13.440 I think Tom Likas lives.

06:32:15.520 Oh, by the way, guys, it has to be through Streamlabs.

06:32:18.180 We'll show these, but it does have to be through Matt.

06:32:21.480 I appreciate it.

06:32:22.200 Thank you, man.

06:32:24.480 This guy thinks, who's Maple Leaf?

06:32:26.680 Marry you.

06:32:27.700 Okay.

06:32:28.180 All right. 1.00

06:32:28.820 Shoot your shot, bro. 1.00

06:32:29.600 Just a reminder, do it through Streamlabs, guys, for the TTS to trigger. 0.98

06:32:35.180 It's not through, it won't trigger through YouTube.

06:32:38.540 Yeah, Tom Likas would be a come up, though.

06:32:40.140 He lives in Santa Barbara, I think.

06:32:41.660 Warzone donated $20.

06:32:43.500 You're right, anyways.

06:32:44.040 I don't tend to get into discussions like this, but I am, as far as the body count argument

06:32:49.420 is concerned, I believe the only time it should matter is if it is objectively excessive age

06:32:54.720 equals count or higher.

06:32:58.020 Hmm.

06:32:59.240 Word?

06:33:00.480 Yeah.

06:33:01.920 Is concerned, I believe the only time it should matter is if it is objectively excessive.

06:33:06.500 Antarius donated $20.

06:33:08.640 Okay.

06:33:08.860 Central America is the way to go. 1.00

06:33:10.900 Latina greater than Asian. 1.00

06:33:12.920 To clarify, I still live in the U.S., but I'll be retired in 10 years.

06:33:17.580 No way would I ever want to date an average 40-year-old U.S. woman. 1.00

06:33:23.640 What do you guys think about the Passport Bros thing?

06:33:25.940 I totally understand that.

06:33:27.160 Like, dudes who are, like, leaving the United States.

06:33:29.540 I didn't know that was a thing.

06:33:30.840 Brian's lint roller donated $20.

06:33:33.680 Chicken Orange left her five kids to get dicked down by 30 randos on Tinder. 0.99

06:33:38.880 Whoever her mentors are, they're corrupting society.

06:33:43.240 You want to respond to that?

06:33:44.900 I didn't leave them to get dicked down.

06:33:46.440 I didn't even have dicked, so...

06:33:48.500 Chicken Orange, I feel kinda bad we went so hard on you.

06:33:52.900 But in the future, if you find yourself dating again,

06:33:56.100 give the man on the date as much consideration as you give your dinner entree.

06:34:00.000 $20 time, donated $20.

06:34:05.180 Oh, they like you.

06:34:05.700 Woman in orange is sexy. 1.00

06:34:07.320 I hope you find a good man to grow old with.

06:34:10.820 You clearly have worked really hard and deserve the best.

06:34:14.300 P.S. Passport Brothers are cringy AF.

06:34:19.080 Nate donated $20.

06:34:21.780 Can someone on the panel tell me exactly what Gawlock's chair smells like?

06:34:25.900 By the...

06:34:26.400 Flaming Heron wants to know.

06:34:28.400 Yeah, probably.

06:34:30.460 Tell me exactly what Gawlock's chair smells like.

06:34:32.600 Maddie actually smelled it, like, after the show, so...

06:34:35.620 Which chair is that one?

06:34:36.320 Actually took it home and stuff for sure.

06:34:38.520 We actually...

06:34:39.400 We actually...

06:34:40.240 It's up for sale on eBay.

06:34:42.040 Vegas Vinny donated $20.

06:34:43.980 Orange has typical DV worker indoctrination.

06:34:47.360 Ask her how equal was her 10-year marriage.

06:34:50.620 Was it 50-50?

06:34:52.020 Was it 50-50?

06:34:52.760 No, it was not.

06:34:53.500 I was the sole breadwinner for the last decade.

06:34:55.600 You were the sole breadwinner?

06:34:56.480 Real Trump donated $20.

06:34:59.040 The only time I've seen a Latina do-bo is to pick up a dropped tortilla. 1.00

06:35:03.500 Asians are better than Latinas by far. 1.00

06:35:05.880 Not even...

06:35:06.760 There's a dispute in a comment battle.

06:35:10.060 Between the fight.

06:35:11.660 Sidney donated $20.

06:35:13.700 Hey, Brian, huge fan.

06:35:16.060 So proud of how far this podcast has come.

06:35:18.560 Thank you, Sidney.

06:35:18.940 Thank you.

06:35:19.220 Maddie, you are so pretty.

06:35:20.980 Thank you.

06:35:21.180 Glad to see Mason back.

06:35:22.900 Thank you.

06:35:23.280 Opinion of Age Gap Relationship?

06:35:26.960 Depends on their...

06:35:27.560 By the way, because of the TTS trigger, we won't be able to linger too long.

06:35:30.840 What do you guys bench?

06:35:31.940 Bob Saget asking the real questions.

06:35:34.340 Bob Saget, wow.

06:35:35.060 From the grave.

06:35:35.660 Yes.

06:35:36.600 Opinion of Age Gap Relationship.

06:35:38.600 Maddie, Opinion of Age Gap Relationship?

06:35:40.760 Uh, I don't really mind.

06:35:42.440 Don't care?

06:35:42.720 696,96,969,969,969,969,969,969,969,969,969. 1.00

06:36:00.340 F that idiot Watson. 1.00

06:36:02.760 I don't think it's not the actual Wes Watson. 1.00

06:36:04.720 I think it's actually a low-key supporter who's just roasting.

06:36:10.680 That's hilarious.

06:36:11.520 I think that it's just a low-key supporter.

06:36:13.180 Super Silver donated $20.

06:36:15.620 This was a great example of why guys shouldn't be paying on the first date.

06:36:20.300 The lack of compassion and perspective proves why you should stick to going Dutch. 1.00

06:36:25.020 Bo.

06:36:25.180 If you screen the girl, if you screen the girl and she's a, like, you can pay, but, like, 0.57

06:36:30.560 a lot of these girls don't deserve it, to be honest. 1.00

06:36:32.800 They listen to, like, four negatives.

06:36:34.840 Brian, how many Bitcoin or WoW items would need to be donated to never have to me on again? 1.00

06:36:39.740 Compounding extreme stupidity with a Mickey Mouse voice is so insufferable. 0.99

06:36:44.920 I'll do it. 1.00

06:36:46.040 You got a Bitcoin?

06:36:46.560 Ben George donated $20.

06:36:48.060 You want to throw me a Bitcoin?

06:36:48.340 I'll do it for a Bitcoin.

06:36:49.100 One Bitcoin.

06:36:49.240 It may seem silly, but hopefully in the end all of this silliness makes everyone think.

06:36:53.920 Love all of you.

06:36:55.820 Yeah, I've had a few too many, but am I wrong to want people to think?

06:37:01.000 No, it's legit.

06:37:01.860 Yeah, that's fair.

06:37:02.120 What are you drinking, though?

06:37:03.680 You drinking beer?

06:37:05.020 Question for the ladies. 0.99

06:37:06.360 Guinness?

06:37:06.860 Would you still wear makeup if the zombie apocalypse happened tomorrow and all the men on planet 1.00

06:37:11.800 Earth turned into zombies?

06:37:13.600 No.

06:37:13.880 Yes.

06:37:14.640 No.

06:37:16.400 No for everybody.

06:37:17.340 Heretic donated $20.

06:37:19.340 Brian, you're doing great work here.

06:37:21.280 Thank you, Heretic. 0.52

06:37:21.480 Appreciate it.

06:37:21.860 Madison, you're a perfect 10.

06:37:23.920 Your facial expressions are the backbone of this podcast.

06:37:28.340 Wait.

06:37:31.840 Larson donated $20.

06:37:33.660 Thank you, Heretic. 0.52

06:37:34.260 Appreciate it.

06:37:34.600 Huge fan of the show, Brian, and love what you're doing, Mason, but legit question, can

06:37:38.880 an average guy be on the show or just woman can message you? 1.00

06:37:42.480 Uh-oh.

06:37:43.400 You said that, like, most of them choke, right?

06:37:46.360 Yeah.

06:37:46.900 Bob Saget donated $20.

06:37:48.560 I'm really selective with the guys.

06:37:51.380 No, but really.

06:37:51.480 What do you bench?

06:37:52.580 Uh, 430.

06:37:54.760 Uh, I'm pretty selective when it comes to, like, the guys we have on the show.

06:37:58.000 Um, typically, they have to have, like, some background, like, content creation, public speaking.

06:38:02.340 I expect meow donated $20.

06:38:05.020 They have to be validated.

06:38:05.980 Don't you just tweet it when your cat wakes you up like this?

06:38:07.980 Sexism. 0.97

06:38:08.680 Meow.

06:38:09.620 Meow.

06:38:09.940 People pay $20 to do stuff like this?

06:38:12.340 Oh, yeah.

06:38:13.220 It's the internet.

06:38:13.840 Easy, easy money, baby.

06:38:15.480 Meow.

06:38:15.800 Meow.

06:38:16.700 Meow.

06:38:17.620 Meow.

06:38:18.400 Okay.

06:38:18.880 Meow.

06:38:19.820 Meow.

06:38:20.740 Meow.

06:38:21.880 Meow.

06:38:22.700 Meow.

06:38:23.180 Meow.

06:38:23.780 Meow.

06:38:24.900 Meow.

06:38:26.000 Meow.

06:38:26.420 I didn't think there was this many meows.

06:38:28.240 Yeah, I didn't read that many.

06:38:30.080 Yeah, that was kind of...

06:38:31.460 I mean, but I guess to kind of answer Larson's question, yeah, I mean, I've given a lot of

06:38:36.000 guys chances on the show.

06:38:40.860 Some normal guys.

06:38:42.100 Even some guys who claim to, you know, a lot of people choke on the show.

06:38:47.200 And, yeah, I've given a lot of chances.

06:38:51.160 And then, actually, we had this one guy.

06:38:52.620 I haven't talked about this yet.

06:38:53.760 We had this one guy who came on the show, had 1,000, 2,000 Instagram followers.

06:38:58.400 I don't really...

06:38:58.900 Like, honestly, you could have zero Instagram followers, but if you can, like, debate and

06:39:02.740 hold your position and actually, like, have conversations about this, because most men 0.99

06:39:07.040 are not really prepared to be honest about this short sort of shit. 0.99

06:39:11.000 $22. 0.98

06:39:12.640 Boneless wings or traditional wings?

06:39:14.900 Traditional.

06:39:15.260 Love the podcast, Brian.

06:39:16.420 Traditional.

06:39:17.320 Boneless.

06:39:18.020 I'm a boneless man.

06:39:19.820 Boneless.

06:39:19.980 They're just chicken nuggets.

06:39:20.960 I love boneless.

06:39:21.980 Boneless.

06:39:22.060 It's so good.

06:39:23.400 I don't want to have actual chicken nuggets.

06:39:26.280 Yes.

06:39:27.700 I wonder if this guy follows Tim the Tab Man, because that's a Tim question.

06:39:31.580 Going back to the guy thing, I've invited guys on either...

06:39:33.980 Typically, a lot of times, they just choke, and they say nothing the entire time.

06:39:40.460 Like, it's hard, granted, but you have to be willing to, like, try to insert yourself

06:39:44.460 in.

06:39:45.060 Like, I'm not going to, like, hand-hold you to, like...

06:39:47.560 I'm not going to, like, give you a layup for you to get your point in.

06:39:51.420 Like, you got to be aggressive a little bit on this podcast if you want to get your word

06:39:55.600 in.

06:39:56.080 And as a guy, like, I'm not going to, like, hand-hold you, oh, what do you think?

06:40:02.080 No, like, you got to come in if you want it.

06:40:04.760 Maybe you might say that makes me a bad host, but, like, I'm not going to give you layups.

06:40:08.280 Like, you got to just go for it.

06:40:10.320 And, like, all the best guys who've been on the show, I never have to give them layups.

06:40:14.100 Andrew Wilson, don't have to give them a layup.

06:40:16.300 Chase, don't have to give them a layup.

06:40:18.020 Mason, don't got to give them a layup.

06:40:19.620 Don't have to be like, well, what do you think about this?

06:40:21.840 And let me help you along in the conversation here.

06:40:24.460 If I want a guy to come on...

06:40:25.740 If a guy wants to come on the show, he has to be at that level.

06:40:29.180 He can expect me to give him layups.

06:40:31.080 And I've had two guys complain about this after the show.

06:40:34.820 They blame me.

06:40:36.120 I'll get into that in a sec.

06:40:37.220 Question for Mason and Brian.

06:40:38.920 Would you rather be in the forest with a bear or a 4'11 woman who knows jiu-jitsu? 1.00

06:40:44.520 Hashtag free jai-jacket, Nick.

06:40:46.260 Hashtag free mad dog.

06:40:47.940 Hashtag free Gustavo.

06:40:49.360 I like short women, so... 1.00

06:40:50.360 That's Brian's dream.

06:40:51.920 Teleprime donated $20.

06:40:54.080 Perfect.

06:40:54.300 I paid $20 just to say that black shirt on the right seems really F.

06:40:59.560 All answers had some kind of compromise or realistic answers.

06:41:03.840 Stay real queen.

06:41:04.360 Stay real queen.

06:41:05.180 Stay real queen.

06:41:05.840 You fine.

06:41:06.720 Thank you.

06:41:07.100 Hello.

06:41:07.400 Do you want to say anything?

06:41:08.280 I'm a fan.

06:41:09.280 Can you slide into the DMs?

06:41:11.760 Uh, I'm going to try.

06:41:13.500 All right.

06:41:13.940 All right.

06:41:14.140 Okay.

06:41:14.240 Uh, but yeah, last thing on the whole guy thing.

06:41:16.960 I mean, uh, I, I've had, I've invited two guys on the show, uh, who gone on afterwards

06:41:22.440 because I didn't handhold them and I didn't give them layups. 0.84

06:41:29.300 Went on to go ahead and talk shit about me after the show, even after I was perfectly polite 0.98

06:41:34.820 to them, perfectly nice to them after the show, during the show, et cetera. 0.99

06:41:38.940 Oh, Brian didn't do enough to give me a layup.

06:41:43.240 Yeah.

06:41:43.680 Now, do you see what we're dealing with on the modern dating scene?

06:41:46.600 What do you mean?

06:41:47.460 Like men, the, the general, like they just won't communicate even.

06:41:51.280 They won't.

06:41:51.660 Well, I mean, these, these, no, but they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they,

06:41:55.980 A underscore war zone donated $20.

06:41:58.940 To give some clarification on my previous message, the age equals count is I believe one

06:42:04.480 per year of your life would be a teetering on the edge of excessive while hopefully having

06:42:08.980 healthy relationships.

06:42:11.180 I agree with that.

06:42:12.420 Okay.

06:42:13.880 Yeah.

06:42:14.180 I mean, for me, it's not like a general statement about men.

06:42:18.180 I do think some men can get in over their heads because it's one thing to be like sitting 0.89

06:42:22.400 behind your computer, watching the show, be like from the comfort of your own house, your

06:42:26.440 own room.

06:42:27.260 Oh, I would say that when they say this, I would say this, I would say this. 0.99

06:42:30.100 It's like, it's, have you ever had like a shower argument where you're like, you fucking smoke 0.79

06:42:34.520 them in your mind, but then like, but then you smoke them. 0.55

06:42:37.660 But like in the, during the actual argument, you can't, you're not like as, oh, and you're

06:42:42.280 like, how many people here have been in an argument? 0.95

06:42:44.280 And then after the fact, you're like, fuck, I should have said this, this, and this. 0.98

06:42:47.620 I'll probably feel that way after tonight. 0.99

06:42:50.000 Yeah.

06:42:50.200 Yeah.

06:42:50.420 I'll probably feel that way after tonight.

06:42:51.780 Like I had a lot on my mind, but then you get here and you're nervous and you really can't

06:42:55.740 formulate.

06:42:56.560 It's harder.

06:42:57.280 It's harder in person.

06:42:58.280 There's the lights, cameras, a bunch of people around the table. 0.98

06:43:01.020 I'm being a dickhead. 0.98

06:43:03.060 It's all right. 0.99

06:43:03.180 It's hard.

06:43:03.820 It's hard. 1.00

06:43:04.500 I'm an asshole. 1.00

06:43:04.980 I can debate anything and have strong positions. 1.00

06:43:08.400 BTW, you have to fly me in from Sweden.

06:43:11.900 Yeah.

06:43:12.120 That's not happening.

06:43:12.780 Sorry.

06:43:12.840 Why are you stopping?

06:43:13.360 Diverse passport, bro.

06:43:17.160 Yeah.

06:43:18.280 So, I mean, it is what it is, you know?

06:43:22.120 And I try, I've given guys shots.

06:43:24.280 And then obviously now we, I mean, there's another layer here where we have like security concerns.

06:43:30.000 Yeah. 0.99

06:43:31.020 Like we've had crazy shit, you know? 0.99

06:43:34.120 Like tonight. 1.00

06:43:34.620 Like tonight, that chick fucking. 1.00

06:43:35.520 Yeah, perfect example. 1.00

06:43:36.540 It would have been a guy.

06:43:36.920 Even the chicks.

06:43:37.900 Even the girls. 1.00

06:43:39.220 Fucking trying to murder Nick. 1.00

06:43:40.860 Yeah. 1.00

06:43:41.300 Hashtag free Nick.

06:43:43.240 Hashtag free Nick.

06:43:44.120 Nick's will. 1.00

06:43:45.040 Goddamn. 1.00

06:43:46.140 I'm tired of this shit. 1.00

06:43:47.020 I'm tired of this shit. 1.00

06:43:47.040 I'm tired of this shit. 1.00

06:43:48.660 Drop the names, Brixen. 1.00

06:43:50.520 You can't be like the women on your podcast. 1.00

06:43:53.200 If you're gonna say this happens to you, you have to drop the details, which men have said

06:43:58.440 this.

06:43:59.120 I can do it.

06:43:59.980 I'll do it in a sec.

06:44:01.020 Up here, Aquatic donated $22.

06:44:04.700 What kind of place should the woman be taken to for the first date? 1.00

06:44:08.540 Benihana, son.

06:44:09.460 No, I'm just kidding.

06:44:09.960 Don't do that.

06:44:10.820 Don't do that.

06:44:11.480 I would say for coffee, honestly.

06:44:13.280 Don't do that.

06:44:13.600 Or lunch.

06:44:14.480 You're just getting to know each other.

06:44:15.660 Or just like straight to your house.

06:44:16.860 Donated $20.

06:44:18.560 You do have a point, Brian.

06:44:20.100 Just come over.

06:44:20.480 It just sucks not having our voices heard.

06:44:23.140 But respect, man.

06:44:24.460 I understand your reasoning.

06:44:26.080 Well, the other thing is I get hundreds of requests per week from men wanting to come on.

06:44:31.080 So, um, uh, what's it called?

06:44:34.460 Uh, I'm not a troll, Brian. 0.98

06:44:35.560 You should have kicked. 0.98

06:44:36.220 Oh, bro. 0.99

06:44:36.600 You have 10?

06:44:37.500 You. 0.93

06:44:38.440 Goblin. 0.98

06:44:39.240 Goblin.

06:44:40.480 Goblin.

06:44:41.380 Sterling Burnett donated $20.

06:44:44.120 Brian, your show is the reason I've been getting better at debating and strengthening my moderate views.

06:44:49.980 Thank you, man.

06:44:50.380 Thank you, man.

06:44:53.360 Yeah, the other thing is we get, like, 100 requests per week for men wanting to be on the show.

06:44:58.480 And, I mean, you know, we can't accommodate everybody.

06:45:01.540 I don't have time.

06:45:02.440 Like, I would want somebody to submit videos, for example.

06:45:05.360 Okay, talk about, without a script, talk about dating for two minutes or something.

06:45:12.660 Did I do that for you?

06:45:13.440 Yeah, you did that with me.

06:45:14.260 I was like, yo, send me, send me, like, a video.

06:45:16.420 Yeah, I had to send videos of me discussing dating topics.

06:45:20.020 Just off the cuff.

06:45:20.980 Yeah.

06:45:21.340 And I'll, for example, some guys, I'll, like, look at their profile.

06:45:25.060 I'll be like, maybe.

06:45:26.060 And I'll be like, okay, send me a video of you talking about a thing.

06:45:28.500 They even want me to hand-hold them.

06:45:30.580 And I just say, send me a video of you talking about a dating topic.

06:45:33.460 They're like, well, what?

06:45:34.440 And I'm just like, huh?

06:45:35.220 I'm already starting to, like, have a hesitation there.

06:45:38.040 Don't make me hand-hold you.

06:45:39.640 Stochastic decay donated $20.

06:45:40.060 You've got to, like, send me.

06:45:41.060 30 dates times $50 a date.

06:45:44.140 $1,500.

06:45:46.680 Life on easy mode.

06:45:47.860 Also, did that chick break something when she left? 1.00

06:45:51.780 P.S.

06:45:52.100 Good thing you have Alpha Nick there to pop your bottles and protect the panel.

06:45:56.020 She was like, there's a bowl of chips.

06:45:58.860 Real Trump donated $20.

06:46:00.240 She made a mess. 1.00

06:46:01.160 Brian, I'm a 38-year-old divorced HVAC technician.

06:46:04.940 And let's be honest, no one wants to hear from some average dude like me.

06:46:09.520 I'd much rather watch Andrew Wilson make these women look like art arts. 1.00

06:46:13.440 Can we all group all the women together? 0.99

06:46:16.120 Brian's underscore feeder underscore 69 donated $20.

06:46:20.560 Uh-oh.

06:46:20.920 But it's in the orange is just like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

06:46:28.340 While the Canadian is like, sir, I don't chow. 0.91

06:46:31.240 Sorry.

06:46:31.640 Sorry.

06:46:32.240 Sorry.

06:46:32.540 Sorry.

06:46:33.280 Don't you know.

06:46:33.820 Don't you know.

06:46:34.540 Don't you know.

06:46:35.540 Don't you know?

06:46:36.240 That's what I mean is, though, I think, right?

06:46:38.400 But yeah, I mean, to real Trump there.

06:46:40.560 You could have no, like, it's not a clout thing, by the way.

06:46:48.340 I'll bring on a guy who has zero followers, who has an average job.

06:46:53.160 It's not your job.

06:46:54.200 It's not your clout.

06:46:55.300 Don't care.

06:46:57.700 It's your ability to actually be able to effectively participate in the debate in the face of people who strongly disagree with you to actually be able to articulate good arguments.

06:47:09.240 I'm not even that good of a debater.

06:47:12.000 That's why I like to try to have, like, a little backup, you know?

06:47:16.180 That's why I have Andrew on.

06:47:17.300 He's a fantastic.

06:47:18.380 He's one of the best.

06:47:19.240 I don't know if I've seen anybody whose debates nearly as well as Andrew.

06:47:23.380 Yeah. 0.99

06:47:24.020 He's a fucking powerhouse. 1.00

06:47:26.020 He scares me. 0.99

06:47:26.700 And I actually, like, I think I'm one of the first ones who really, like, I think when I first messaged Andrew, he had maybe 10,000 subscribers on YouTube.

06:47:35.880 He's now at, like, 60,000, 70,000.

06:47:38.260 That's probably mostly from whatever.

06:47:40.660 Johnny Law donated $20.

06:47:43.200 Second girl from the right, would you date a 40-year-old Army infantry veteran that makes 60K a year to be a stay-at-home dad? 0.97

06:47:51.960 Wait.

06:47:52.400 So he's working, but then he's also a stay-at-home dad?

06:47:54.920 I don't get that.

06:47:56.900 He's in the infantry.

06:47:57.200 40-year-old Army infantry veteran makes 60K a year.

06:47:59.980 Oh, he's always out.

06:48:01.340 Oh, yeah.

06:48:02.020 Yeah, 100%.

06:48:03.200 Yeah.

06:48:04.220 But, I mean, just.

06:48:04.880 If he's a good man.

06:48:06.560 Yeah.

06:48:06.840 Who loves me.

06:48:07.280 Just to give context, though, like, when it came to Andrew, right, I saw videos of him, and he, I was like, this guy's a fantastic debater.

06:48:14.440 Yeah.

06:48:14.800 Grimseth donated $20.

06:48:16.180 He didn't care about his following.

06:48:17.100 It was irrelevant.

06:48:17.840 Brian, you're a pioneer and a decent man.

06:48:19.720 I agree with 99% of everything you say.

06:48:22.900 Thank you, man.

06:48:23.340 Long-time viewer, I have to say.

06:48:25.600 Thank you, brother.

06:48:26.140 You're doing the Lord's work.

06:48:27.400 Thank you.

06:48:27.860 He's a brave and a decent man.

06:48:29.600 He's a pioneer.

06:48:30.440 Thank you.

06:48:31.640 Thank you.

06:48:32.360 Thank you.

06:48:32.940 Thank you.

06:48:33.620 Appreciate it. 0.99

06:48:34.600 But, yeah, I mean, Andrew, like, clout, don't give a fuck. 1.00

06:48:37.640 Don't give a fuck. 1.00

06:48:37.960 Chase. 1.00

06:48:38.860 No following.

06:48:39.760 The good guys donated $20.

06:48:42.020 Don't care.

06:48:42.600 How are you guys still awake?

06:48:44.380 Yeah.

06:48:44.800 Shut out, night owls. 0.96

06:48:46.160 We're going to end soon. 0.97

06:48:46.800 Just woke up.

06:48:47.540 Yeah, we played four hours.

06:48:48.200 Meow, meow, meow, meow.

06:48:50.040 Goose, you look like my son.

06:48:52.220 Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.

06:48:55.180 Shut out, fellow good guys who GTFO cities.

06:48:58.880 Yeah.

06:48:59.600 Good times.

06:49:00.660 The two, I will say who the two were.

06:49:03.160 I don't even honestly remember their names.

06:49:06.100 One of them was, there's a panel where, like, three girls got kicked out. 1.00

06:49:12.360 I'm trying to remember.

06:49:13.480 I think, was Nick there for this one?

06:49:15.600 It was, like, this guy who sat here said nothing. 0.99

06:49:20.160 Um, then he went on to, like, talk shit because he, these people have a poor performance on 0.99

06:49:28.740 the podcast. 0.99

06:49:29.160 And instead of, like, reflecting and be like, hmm, got in over my head.

06:49:33.120 I actually don't know to, like, how to debate at all.

06:49:35.700 They want to just blame me for not giving them the layup, not giving them the handhold.

06:49:41.000 I forgot what that guy's name was. 0.99

06:49:43.320 There was a guy who recently, actually, very recently talked shit. 0.97

06:49:46.320 Um, it was the private security guy with the beard, uh, or the, he did, like, uh, I'm trying 0.99

06:49:53.780 to remember.

06:49:54.200 No.

06:49:55.300 He was a security consultant or something.

06:49:58.920 Beard. 0.99

06:49:59.440 And talked massive shit, like, some, some, uh, I don't know if he was a, he was, like, 1.00

06:50:09.840 big guy, beard, uh, Steve? 1.00

06:50:14.400 Steve Ross or something?

06:50:16.480 So the male guests need to be master debaters. 0.83

06:50:19.880 Sorry, hat two.

06:50:21.900 I mean, they don't have to be, you don't have to be, like, Andrew Wilson level, but, like.

06:50:26.860 Not just male guests, though.

06:50:28.060 I feel like female guests also, like, well, also, yeah, I also do want women who can come 1.00

06:50:32.580 on and actually share. 0.99

06:50:33.640 For a minute, I felt like you were being a real asshole tonight, but then. 0.99

06:50:36.440 No, I was. 1.00

06:50:36.760 I was being a dick. 0.99

06:50:37.740 Yes, you were, and I kind of took in what you were doing, and it was hard not to internalize 0.99

06:50:41.500 it, but I tried to do, be better.

06:50:44.080 I tried.

06:50:45.620 I, I will say.

06:50:49.720 Oh, no.

06:50:50.440 God, I don't like that face.

06:50:51.660 You do have a tendency to be, like, and I don't think it was wrong.

06:50:59.380 I don't try.

06:50:59.960 You do tend to be, like, I need to say something in response to everything.

06:51:05.260 Well, because I feel like it's, like, an interesting conversation.

06:51:08.960 I don't think you're wrong for it.

06:51:10.180 I don't think you're wrong for it, but I'll try not to jump in so much.

06:51:14.460 I tried at the end.

06:51:18.740 Okay.

06:51:19.880 We're going to get the Twitch rate going, then we're going to wrap up here.

06:51:24.460 Yeah?

06:51:25.240 Don't trust anything that bleeds without dying. 1.00

06:51:27.840 What the fuck? 1.00

06:51:28.720 Oh, my gosh. 1.00

06:51:31.300 Misogynist, bro.

06:51:32.460 Disavow.

06:51:32.940 Did anyone ever correct the blonde in orange on domestic terrorism? 0.80

06:51:37.220 She gave a definition to domestic violence earlier. 0.88

06:51:40.720 Timothy McVeigh is a domestic terrorist.

06:51:43.080 Oklahoma City bombing. 0.99

06:51:44.700 I forgot.

06:51:45.360 Yeah, yeah.

06:51:47.580 And Terry has donated $20.

06:51:50.060 Shout out to the woman a few weeks back who in her pre-show notes said,

06:51:54.100 I'm a feminist, and then the very first question, I'm not a feminist, 0.87

06:51:58.000 and said nothing else the entire show.

06:52:00.040 That's great.

06:52:00.740 Up here, Aquatic donated $20.

06:52:05.620 Another real question.

06:52:06.340 Does pineapple belong on pizza?

06:52:07.880 No.

06:52:08.180 No.

06:52:08.960 No.

06:52:09.520 Does not.

06:52:09.680 No, it does not.

06:52:10.580 Does not.

06:52:11.080 That's heresy.

06:52:11.820 Ugh.

06:52:12.660 That's heresy.

06:52:13.700 Nick, we're going to raid Stay Safe TV on Twitch.

06:52:18.000 Kaiju donated $22.

06:52:19.780 Yeah, thank you, Kaiju.

06:52:20.460 It would be cool if you could do a two-minute video type thing,

06:52:23.760 but I do understand how much of a pain that is.

06:52:27.240 Maybe one day something can happen.

06:52:29.680 Good night all.

06:52:30.740 Yeah.

06:52:32.120 At this point, it's just there's way too many people who, like,

06:52:35.480 request to be on.

06:52:37.220 Like, if they don't, if honestly, if they don't have, like,

06:52:40.920 any history of, like, content creation public speaking,

06:52:43.380 I tend to just overlook it.

06:52:45.460 I'll occasionally make exceptions.

06:52:46.640 But, like, you'd basically have to message me.

06:52:49.600 If you were interested, you'd have to message me.

06:52:51.800 Here, Brian, here's a two-minute video of me speaking unscripted.

06:52:54.640 Don't script it.

06:52:56.420 Maybe I'd be open to them.

06:52:58.220 But, yeah.

06:52:59.180 Bob Saget donated $20.

06:53:01.320 Are they fighting?

06:53:02.060 McGregor or Chandler?

06:53:07.440 McGregor.

06:53:08.560 I'll do McGregor.

06:53:10.080 Okay.

06:53:10.400 So, we're going to do a Twitch raid.

06:53:12.780 After that, I'll do my outro, or I'll do my outro, then we'll.

06:53:15.400 Wait.

06:53:15.740 Before that, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

06:53:18.960 If you can pull that up, Nick.

06:53:20.860 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

06:53:24.080 Yep.

06:53:24.420 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

06:53:25.400 Drop us a follow on the Prime Sub before we head on out here, guys.

06:53:28.200 I'm going to get this wrapped up here pretty soon.

06:53:30.080 We are going to do a raid, so stick around on Twitch. 0.99

06:53:31.920 Going to send you to a fucking legend, a gigachad. 0.99

06:53:35.880 Twitch.tv slash whatever. 1.00

06:53:37.120 Drop us a follow.

06:53:37.580 Drop us a Prime Sub.

06:53:38.820 If you're watching on YouTube, drop us a follow over there if you can.

06:53:42.220 And then, so, let's see.

06:53:44.580 Before I do the Twitch raid, GG.

06:53:47.920 Well played to the plan.

06:53:49.140 Plannel?

06:53:49.740 Panel.

06:53:50.140 Thank you, guys.

06:53:50.720 Thank you, guys, so much for coming.

06:53:52.480 I thought it was a good convo.

06:53:54.780 Definitely an interesting show.

06:53:55.960 Well, Antarius donated $20.

06:53:59.500 Needs more WoW streamers.

06:54:01.400 I'd donate a champagne pop if I see Simonize on this podcast.

06:54:06.100 We've had Stay Safe on, and I'm trying to get P.O.

06:54:08.280 And Asmongold, if anybody knows Asmongold, we'll get S. Fond.

06:54:11.280 We'll get all those guys.

06:54:12.360 All those guys.

06:54:12.920 If you know them, we'll get them on.

06:54:14.420 Last call.

06:54:15.020 Hit the like button, please, on your way out.

06:54:16.260 Thank you for tuning in tonight.

06:54:17.040 You can have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.

06:54:19.580 I appreciate that.

06:54:21.320 And I will do the raid before I do a final outro.

06:54:23.340 But thank you to everyone who Superchats, Donates, supports the show.

06:54:26.740 We will be live again.

06:54:28.740 Is that Tuesday?

06:54:29.840 Yep.

06:54:30.460 We will be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific.

06:54:32.420 Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram. 0.61

06:54:35.260 If you can make it to Santa Barbara, 07 is in the chat.

06:54:37.980 We're going to do the Twitch raid first,

06:54:39.500 and then we'll have a final message on YouTube really quick.

06:54:41.600 Nick, can you pull up Stacey's stream?

06:54:43.020 No, we love the whatever podcast.

06:54:44.180 What the frick? 1.00

06:54:45.580 Fuck, what was I going to say? 1.00

06:54:46.780 Okay. 0.99

06:54:47.380 Thank you, those of you who are watching on Twitch.

06:54:49.340 I'm going to send you over there in just a moment.

06:54:51.540 So the raid is going, what is he watching?

06:54:54.540 What is this crazy guy doing?

06:54:57.360 Curtis underscore Leon underscore donated $20.

06:55:01.100 Girl in the orange doesn't have baggage. 1.00

06:55:03.560 She has a U-Haul truck.

06:55:05.280 Canada, why haven't we invaded them yet?

06:55:07.880 Yeah, we should answer them saying it.

06:55:09.140 That's what I think that's in BDI.

06:55:10.640 Yes, yes.

06:55:11.340 They never did apologize for Justin Bieber.

06:55:13.200 We need to annex.

06:55:14.180 I'm so sorry for that.

06:55:15.020 We're going to annex Canada. 0.52

06:55:16.420 Okay, see you guys on Twitch.

06:55:18.300 Thank you for watching over there on Twitch.

06:55:19.520 I'm going to raid now.

06:55:20.160 Thank God we beat them to the punch.

06:55:22.160 Boom. 0.98

06:55:23.920 And then, what the frick is this guy? 0.93

06:55:26.260 What is he? 0.95

06:55:27.640 What the frick is this guy watching, bro? 0.95

06:55:29.980 What is he? 0.98

06:55:31.300 There it is.

06:55:31.800 Oh, move. 0.99

06:55:32.320 Hide us, Nick.

06:55:32.920 Hide us, Nick.

06:55:34.300 It is Brian and the whatever podcast.

06:55:36.900 Hey, welcome.

06:55:37.840 Welcome, guys.

06:55:38.420 You can put this back.

06:55:39.000 Put this back.

06:55:39.420 Put this back.

06:55:40.200 Whatever likes to choose you, dude.

06:55:41.960 It's because I like Brian and I are good friends.

06:55:44.100 Brian is a secret World of Warcraft player.

06:55:47.060 Is the audio all the way up?

06:55:48.260 I don't know about secret.

06:55:49.500 Oh, wow.

06:55:50.720 I've also been on the whatever podcast two times.

06:55:53.520 He's been on two times.

06:55:54.740 We'll get him on soon.

06:55:55.480 Anyway.

06:55:55.700 He's been such a busy boy.

06:55:57.160 No, thank you.

06:55:57.760 Welcome, everyone.

06:55:58.580 Guys, we are.

06:55:59.840 Anyways, that's it.

06:56:00.420 Okay.

06:56:01.200 He's watching the street.

06:56:02.500 You can X out of that, Nick.

06:56:04.000 You can X out of that.

06:56:05.240 Let me just make sure we aren't missing anybody here.

06:56:11.340 That's all X'd out. 1.00

06:56:12.560 Puffy's English teacher donated $20.

06:56:18.680 Puffy has been working on his grammar.

06:56:21.340 Any chance that he'll be on?

06:56:23.220 He got mad.

06:56:24.220 He blocked me on Instagram because I took too long to read one of his super chats.

06:56:31.040 It took us too long or something, so he blocked me.

06:56:34.740 He won't reply to my DM.

06:56:35.860 And I tried to get Madison to bug him a little bit, but yeah, he was deeply offended.

06:56:42.820 I underscore spend underscore to underscore much underscore and underscore here donated $20.

06:56:48.860 They're not getting married.

06:56:49.400 The thick redhead got the mommy milkers-wah milkers, mommy-wah milkers, mommy-wah milkers, mommy-wah milkers, mommy-wah milkers, mommy-wah milkers, mommy-wah milkers, mommy-wah milkers. 1.00

06:56:58.500 This will be the last question.

06:56:59.900 This will be the last question.

06:57:00.840 Skeet, skeet, skeet.

06:57:01.840 so would the girls

06:57:05.200 really quick, would you date

06:57:06.280 would you date

06:57:08.980 me, would you date

06:57:10.540 Mason, and would you date

06:57:13.160 Gustavo

06:57:14.680 did you hear that?

06:57:21.240 no

06:57:21.840 to all of us?

06:57:23.820 no to me

06:57:25.560 it's an age thing

06:57:28.500 I wouldn't date any of you

06:57:29.720 even if like

06:57:30.700 Mason, let's see the double bicep

06:57:34.520 share with the double bicep

06:57:37.180 look at that

06:57:38.120 he's too old

06:57:39.360 he's 10 years older than her

06:57:43.720 I'm feeling his trapezius

06:57:45.880 right now

06:57:46.320 it's huge

06:57:47.720 it's not a huge gap

06:57:51.720 I mean it's not

06:57:52.360 when you're 18, 28

06:57:55.320 well here's the value add

06:57:56.360 what if I was like, you know, second date, Hawaii

06:57:58.260 still a no-go

06:58:00.840 no

06:58:01.300 that's crazy, yeah

06:58:02.800 I would say

06:58:04.500 and Gustavo

06:58:05.180 what would you

06:58:05.920 what was your value?

06:58:07.480 Gustavo, how old are you, bro?

06:58:08.640 you're like

06:58:08.820 23

06:58:09.040 is that 20?

06:58:10.360 it's anything over 20

06:58:12.080 she said 20 0.98

06:58:12.280 damn, okay 0.99

06:58:13.620 that's crazy 1.00

06:58:14.300 it's just because once you're 21

06:58:15.860 you could go to like

06:58:16.620 bars and clubs

06:58:17.520 I'm not trying to drink with a girl 1.00

06:58:19.340 Nickelodeon donated $20

06:58:21.040 blonde in the middle

06:58:22.820 almost bit a hole

06:58:23.980 in her lips

06:58:24.600 staring at Mason

06:58:25.620 oh my gosh

06:58:27.380 I met a girl

06:58:28.520 I was just standing here

06:58:30.740 oh my gosh

06:58:31.340 what was that tooth thing

06:58:31.740 what was that tooth thing

06:58:32.560 you were talking about?

06:58:33.160 that tooth

06:58:33.760 is this like a tooth man here?

06:58:36.680 sorry I'm an active listener

06:58:38.220 I'm a grand

06:58:38.740 I'm like a dinosaur

06:58:39.800 so it ain't happening

06:58:41.240 it ain't happening

06:58:42.160 even if I

06:58:42.960 even if I offer Hawaii

06:58:44.540 that's hilarious

06:58:46.700 you ever been to Hawaii?

06:58:48.000 that's funny

06:58:48.420 no

06:58:48.740 I'm messing around

06:58:50.680 would you

06:58:52.860 do I have to answer this question?

06:58:55.520 actually no you don't

06:58:56.420 because it was

06:58:56.900 not a TTS

06:58:58.000 and whatever

06:58:58.500 oh okay

06:58:58.860 you don't want to hear the answer

06:59:00.780 I was like

06:59:01.520 no I didn't mean it like that

06:59:06.180 no I just

06:59:06.820 we're moving on

06:59:08.000 would you date Mason?

06:59:10.020 no

06:59:10.280 would you

06:59:10.740 take a slice of that 1.00

06:59:12.140 wait what the fuck 0.99

06:59:13.100 am I trying to say 0.99

06:59:13.560 bicep

06:59:14.160 a slice of that bicep 0.99

06:59:15.580 would you cut yourself

06:59:16.260 a slice of that

06:59:17.240 oh god

06:59:18.020 I would say maybe to you too

06:59:19.600 but I don't know that guy

06:59:20.880 that's my opinion 0.98

06:59:21.720 damn it 0.99

06:59:22.580 I just 0.99

06:59:22.860 I wanted to end it

06:59:23.560 before the 7 hour

06:59:24.320 oh wait

06:59:24.820 we can still end it

06:59:25.440 oh my god

06:59:26.380 we're gonna end it

06:59:27.000 cherry donated $20

06:59:28.460 we're gonna end it

06:59:28.820 before the 7 hour

06:59:29.420 thank you Mason

06:59:30.160 for being the only one

06:59:31.440 to get my master debate

06:59:32.900 a comment

06:59:33.560 I got it

06:59:35.080 master debater

06:59:35.820 master debater

06:59:36.800 okay guys

06:59:37.260 thank you guys so much

06:59:38.680 for tuning in again

06:59:39.340 we will be live

06:59:40.240 Sunday

06:59:40.700 Sunday 5pm Pacific

06:59:41.880 got some good shows

06:59:43.460 very good shows

06:59:44.360 good guests coming

06:59:45.000 on the way

06:59:45.800 07's in the chat

06:59:47.460 07's in the chat

06:59:48.460 goodnight guys

06:59:49.620 day 4pm

07:00:04.200 good night

07:00:06.000 I don't know

07:00:06.200 it's a great gesagt

07:00:07.220 good night

07:00:07.900 got some goodvos

07:00:08.120 good night

07:00:08.680 good night

07:00:08.920 good night

07:00:09.260 good night

07:00:09.720 good night

07:00:09.980 good night

07:00:10.140 good night

07:00:10.340 good night

07:00:11.160 great fittest

07:00:11.800 good night

07:00:12.180 good night

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Whatever Podcast - May 08, 2024

Psycho Troll ASSAULTS Nick？! GETS KICKED OUT! She DISAGREES With EVERYTHING？! ｜ Dating Talk #159

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