Whatever Podcast - Rachel Wilson vs. HATER Feminists & Woke Liberal Girls？! E-GIRL Bankrupts Men？! ｜ Dating Talk 288

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the

00:00:28.540 whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape. I'm your

00:00:32.960 host, Brian Atlas. We're going to just jump right in. Sorry for the delay there. Sorry we're a little

00:00:38.120 about seven, eight minutes late. Go ahead and introduce yourself. First person. Hi, everyone.

00:00:44.500 My name is Reena. I am 25. I am from Phoenix, Arizona. In my occupation, I am a mechanic. I am

00:00:52.180 a fabricator. I'm a business owner. Anything and everything. Cars, mechanical, building things from

00:00:57.960 scratch. Love it. And I'm dabbling in business now. I'll be buying my first pre-existing business

00:01:03.340 here soon. Oh, one request. I totally forgot. Can I have you pop the sunglasses off? Not the

00:01:08.380 Gucci shades. Yeah, Tiffany, can you snap this? Just hand them behind you for me. Sorry about that.

00:01:13.920 I totally slipped my mind. Sorry. All right. So, and you're a mechanic. Yes. Oh, and education.

00:01:19.760 Sorry, I missed that one.

00:01:21.360 I graduated from a school called UTI.

00:01:27.080 That's a really unfortunate acronym.

00:01:29.380 I'm in a room full of women. 1.00

00:01:30.940 You're like, oh, you have a UTI.

00:01:32.480 No, I don't have a UTI.

00:01:35.200 I guess permanently I have a UTI because I have a degree from there.

00:01:39.380 But yeah, so I have an Associates of Arts in Mechanical for Auto and Diesel Technology

00:01:45.020 from the school called UTI.

00:01:47.680 So that would be me.

00:01:48.760 All right.

00:01:49.760 Cool. And how long have you been doing work on cars?

00:01:55.540 I'd say a little over five and a half years now.

00:01:58.660 And then I'd say about four years professionally.

00:02:01.100 So I used to be a dealership technician, and I was working on your cars, and you bring them into the dealership.

00:02:05.520 I started off doing oil changes, and then I just progressively learned more and more.

00:02:09.540 And I got certified and realized, wow, they're taking a lot of the money that I could be making.

00:02:16.360 so then I just kind of opened up my own thing and yeah that's where I'm at now okay all right

00:02:22.000 what about you my name is Maya I'm 22 I'm from California and I am a line cook and receptionist

00:02:28.080 and I have no college education all right um and you said you're from where again you're

00:02:35.420 California Eureka California Eureka got it what about you hi my name is Raven I was it on oh

00:02:42.620 okay is it what i was wondering if the mic was on off oh yeah no it just sounded off it just

00:02:49.060 sounded off to me i don't know why it sounded off yeah it's just my ears i don't know it sounded

00:02:54.760 off compared to the other one it doesn't matter wait what okay all right don't worry about it

00:03:01.780 it's on don't worry about it you're good my name is raven i um i don't reveal my age on social

00:03:08.760 media is due to privacy reasons because of what I do.

00:03:13.100 Can you explain that, though?

00:03:14.480 Yes, I do Fyndom.

00:03:16.420 Okay, but because of what you do, so you don't reveal your age because you do Fyndom. 0.68

00:03:20.840 Yeah, just for privacy reasons.

00:03:23.040 Okay, but what are the concerns?

00:03:27.260 I just don't like for subs to know too much about my personal life.

00:03:35.180 that's pretty much it yeah i mean i'm over 18 so

00:03:43.280 are you younger than 30 yes okay sometimes it's hard to tell you know so oh yeah yeah what about

00:03:54.400 you oh did you finish your intro no i did not okay continue um so i did some college but then

00:04:00.980 my college shut down suddenly so okay and where are you from los angeles okay all right uh what

00:04:08.620 were you studying when you were in college musical theater all right what about you my name's grace i

00:04:14.660 am originally from northern california currently living in san diego county i'm 44 and i have a

00:04:20.820 cosmetology license and i've tried to get a degree a few times but you know my ex-husband was in the

00:04:27.460 Marine Corps, so following him around kind of dampered that. Okay, what about you? My name is

00:04:34.960 Mariana. I am 25 years old. I'm from Oregon, and I'm a certified stoner. I have no college

00:04:43.040 education, got my GED, so I'm just learning about cannabis right now. I'm Annie. I'm 35. I'm from

00:04:52.180 Pennsylvania near the Philadelphia area. I'm a full-time social media influencer, content creator,

00:04:59.340 and I have a background in real estate photography and graphic design. You said 35 and 25 for you.

00:05:07.360 Okay. You're a professional smoke smoker or what was it? Certified stoner. I made it. I made it

00:05:14.340 a job. Switch the camera angles, please. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I create content regarding it.

00:05:21.940 and want to help people understand what it is because I feel like there's a lot of stigma around

00:05:27.660 it. Okay. All right. How long have you been smoking? Seven years. Are you currently

00:05:36.280 rocked right now? Yeah. No. All right. What about you? My name is Olivia. I'm 33. I majored in dance

00:05:46.440 at Dean College, and I'm re-enrolled in theology and minoring in pre-law with Liberty University,

00:05:52.980 and I am a faith-based, anti-feminist, conservative content creator, and I am from

00:06:00.480 Michigan. I'm sorry, could you repeat your age for me? I might have missed it. 33. 33, okay,

00:06:06.660 thank you. All right, what about you? Hi, my name's Lexi. I'm 30 from New York. I am a full-time

00:06:15.260 live streamer. I wouldn't say content creator. I kind of, you see my Instagram, it's very empty.

00:06:22.700 I am only live streaming right now currently on this app called Favorited, but I do have plans of

00:06:30.120 getting my real estate license and a few other fun projects. And I originally went to school

00:06:38.440 at Iona for criminal justice and psychology. And then, sorry, I did graduate school at John Jay

00:06:46.680 for my master's in forensic mental health counseling. Gotcha. When did you get your

00:06:51.860 master's degree? So I technically didn't finish it. Okay. You went there for your master's. Okay.

00:07:00.520 I needed to take maybe two or three classes, including an externship, and kind of realized a few years into working in the psychology field that it was a lot more than I could emotionally handle.

00:07:18.380 So I chose to take a step back and focus on being an entrepreneur.

00:07:25.240 Okay.

00:07:26.420 So you were last in school when?

00:07:30.520 three and a half years ago four okay got it uh rachel what about you i'm rachel wilson

00:07:44.820 i'm 45 years old i am the wife of the handsomest debater on the internet i'm also a mom of five

00:07:53.120 homeschooling advocate debater myself and best-selling author uh i have a phd from

00:07:59.240 debateuniversity.com go there get the verbal judo one and two and um i think that's it did you say

00:08:09.440 where you're from i'm originally from michigan now living in texas all right welcome everybody

00:08:15.980 we're going to go around the table once more uh what's everyone's uh relationship status

00:08:20.540 if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever

00:08:25.000 been in okay well i am currently taken very happily taken uh over two years now with my best friend

00:08:32.540 and he is my longest relationship so all right uh for how long for over two years now two years

00:08:40.100 okay got it i'm single i've never been in a relationship and i don't plan to have had like

00:08:46.020 situationships and stuff like that so you said you don't plan to be in a relationship no i'd have

00:08:50.980 no desire to like ever get married or be in a long-term commitment with someone else okay uh

00:08:58.700 what's the longest period of time you have seen somebody probably eight months six months six

00:09:04.800 to eight months was it uh exclusive monogamous uh it was exclusive for me for me but not for him

00:09:12.200 he was seeing other people all right so longest situation eight months but never like official

00:09:18.880 never boyfriend girlfriend did you say i love you to him no have you said i love you to anybody

00:09:23.680 other than like family and friends yeah just like in a romantic sense okay um so why is it that you

00:09:30.220 don't want to ever be in a relationship i just see all my friends relationships and everyone around

00:09:36.580 me and i feel like a lot of the times if people aren't mature enough to have an actual like good

00:09:41.240 relationship and it turns into almost like a controlled dynamic of like i don't want you

00:09:46.340 hanging out with these people like where are you right now and like texting all day long and i am

00:09:52.240 just independent and i don't ever want to have to be attached to someone like that and i don't like

00:09:57.960 being held accountable for my actions and that's kind of what a relationship is

00:10:01.320 can you uh can you repeat that part the last one i don't like being accountable for my actions

00:10:13.260 and being in a relationship what are some actions that you've I just taken that you don't want to

00:10:17.800 be accountable for I'm just thinking like I go out like almost every weekend multiple times a week

00:10:23.100 and like I I just do stuff a lot of people in a relationship would I feel like be like I don't

00:10:27.720 want you doing that anymore like why are you like what I don't I don't know I'm mostly just going

00:10:32.260 out and I don't like like partying yeah partying drugs not drugs but partying drinking like going

00:10:37.660 to clubs stuff like that and a lot I feel like a lot of times men especially will get jealous if

00:10:42.940 their girlfriend likes to go to clubs and stuff because they feel like they're only going there to

00:10:46.200 hang out with other guys or get hit on by other guys. And I feel like it would take a very specific

00:10:50.300 person to not get jealous. So in the calculus of what matters most to you, the trade-off of even

00:11:00.480 if you did have to sacrifice those things, it wouldn't be worthy enough of sacrificing your

00:11:06.660 desires to do those things than to have, like, a long-term, loving, committed relationship?

00:11:13.660 I've never craved that. Like, of course, I crave, like, love and affection, but I feel like I get

00:11:17.460 enough, like, love from my friends. I've never wanted, like, a deeper connection on a romantic

00:11:23.160 level. Okay. What's your orientation? I'm straight. Okay. Have you ever dated women? I've never dated

00:11:30.300 a woman, no. Okay. So no desire. No desire to date a woman. Never dated a woman. I don't find 1.00

00:11:34.560 woman attractive do you want kids no absolutely not absolutely not well you're still young you're

00:11:40.400 22 I grew up like what I was I was homeschooled through high school and I worked at a horse farm

00:11:47.100 and I dealt with a lot of kids and a lot of kids that had special needs a lot of really little kids

00:11:51.440 and it's just a lot like kids are a lot they're a lifelong commitment it's not just raising them

00:11:56.280 until they're 18 you have to raise them until you die and that's just like not something I want to

00:12:01.820 have a dog that I love so dearly and that is my child do you suspect your kids are gonna be

00:12:10.780 I shouldn't say retarded but I do that is a concern well not just a concern but you have 1.00

00:12:16.460 like a is there a well no no no something in the family it's like well I just I look at like my

00:12:22.220 whole entire family like everyone my grandpa was an alcoholic my mom's an alcoholic I I'm not an

00:12:29.100 alcoholic but I do like to go out and I like to drink and stuff so I'm just looking at like

00:12:34.180 especially where my brother is now too and stuff like that and I I also just don't like the way

00:12:38.720 our world is going like politically climately all that stuff and I would never want to bring a child

00:12:43.380 into this yeah um she's like Rachel she's she's said a few different things there do you want

00:12:51.480 anything there that you have any thoughts on Rachel uh yeah I mean this if you think things

00:12:56.500 are bad now then you don't know history we are living in it seems like things are really bad

00:13:01.720 and it's not that we don't have problems but like historically your ancestors went through

00:13:06.080 much worse things for you to end up being here and after all of the think of what it takes for

00:13:12.580 you to ever be born how many people have to survive and procreate over the generations for

00:13:17.520 you to be born and you're just like nah bro i just want to party like screw that gene genetics are

00:13:24.460 ending here sorry ancestors like I'm out because I want to go to the bar don't you think that's 0.68

00:13:29.820 extremely selfish and short-sighted and like really really lazy and taking the easy way out

00:13:35.820 it's not even that though it's more so like kids are like I wouldn't even be able to like 0.78

00:13:40.560 hang out with friends or something like having a baby is like a full-time commitment like you

00:13:45.520 when they're first born unless you have the money to have a nanny or something like that you

00:13:48.780 have to be there all of the time and going back to work and stuff and considering I would never

00:13:53.340 want to have a partner i wouldn't have anyone else to rely on and assuming if i had a kid i

00:13:58.680 get married this is a deep question to get into this early in the podcast but like what's the

00:14:03.460 point of life to you i think having fun and making people laugh and that you already have in your

00:14:08.980 life i think that i think having fun and making people laugh good job good job yeah that's my

00:14:14.920 goal excellent okay make us laugh right now um say something funny oh i don't have any jokes

00:14:20.740 They concoction my mind

00:14:23.540 And then they go away

00:14:24.740 I'll think of something and if I have something funny to say

00:14:27.080 I'll make sure it comes out

00:14:28.720 Although I wonder if

00:14:31.300 That question is unfair because if a woman 1.00

00:14:33.280 Sat here and said well my life goal

00:14:35.540 Is to get pregnant 1.00

00:14:36.440 Should I ask her if she would like to get pregnant 1.00

00:14:39.340 Right now I don't know maybe

00:14:41.240 Let me rethink that I guess

00:14:42.520 The purpose of life is procreation

00:14:44.820 You could be like hey

00:14:46.160 I just think the purpose of life is to like

00:14:48.840 enjoy your best life and live like in the day in the moment in the present meaning no meaning i

00:14:54.560 don't think i don't think there's any god i don't think that there's any full like meaning to life

00:14:58.840 i think humans the entire like goal they're always just searching for a purpose searching for like

00:15:03.520 some greater meaning or some reason to be alive but in reality i don't think there really is one

00:15:08.020 i think just our own mortality scares us so much that we are trying to find a reason to be alive

00:15:14.320 and a reason to be doing what we're doing and i think that's also like that's why a lot of people

00:15:18.000 commit suicide and stuff like that is because they feel like they don't have a reason to their life

00:15:20.980 well all i can say is you're a little sponge and you've soaked up the anti-natalist

00:15:26.360 nihilistic propaganda like crazy and it seems cool at 22 you will not think it's cool at 42

00:15:34.260 it won't be cool at 42 i've never even been to a church or opened a bible never read a bible

00:15:39.740 anything like that like i was raised very like extremely atheist and i didn't you just say

00:15:45.760 though that like your mom and your grandpa and the people that raise you are like kind of toxic

00:15:49.180 kind of not doing great so why would you want to do what they're doing because well my grandpa's

00:15:53.720 dead and i feel like i i also i disassociated from my mom's half of the family like relatively

00:16:00.600 young in life and i feel like i've just since then been going on and trying to like do my own thing

00:16:05.640 and be my own independent person and even when i was like living at home and stuff my like i was

00:16:10.680 basically raising myself took the bus everywhere to work i had my own online school that i was

00:16:15.840 doing i wasn't like actually homeschooled it was like an online program thing so it sounds like a

00:16:21.000 lot of people failed you really badly i can relate same i had a very similar childhood uh and you're

00:16:27.420 trying to avoid pain that's what it sounds like to me but we can we can see as we go forward and

00:16:33.280 talk sure uh relationship status first of all i agree i agree with a lot of what she just said

00:16:39.020 who um what's your name Maya Maya okay because she and she oh so oh it was a bit vague no no

00:16:50.660 hard feelings at all but Maya I agree with a lot of what you just said um so you don't want kids

00:16:56.720 no no it's not that I don't want kids I just agree with the point that I feel like

00:17:03.380 in my experience I feel like we make ourselves as humans kind of miserable by just searching

00:17:11.460 for a meaning in life and I feel like time just passes us by just we're just looking for a meaning

00:17:18.020 every day and sometimes it's good to just stop in the now and just breathe and enjoy the moments

00:17:25.960 oh what i also think it's super respectable like i your independence and everything

00:17:35.200 and i think you're really smart but yeah anyway all right okay um can i have you scoot actually

00:17:43.800 scoot your microphone back like two inches that way uh relationship status for you i am single

00:17:48.760 i've been single for about a year all right what's the longest relationship you've ever been in

00:17:56.380 three years three years okay um orientation i exclusively date women exclusively date women

00:18:06.420 yes so are you bisexual or lesbian i'm mostly i'm i'm lesbian i just don't label it but yeah

00:18:15.900 You have dated men, though?

00:18:17.760 In the past, yes.

00:18:19.260 When's the last time you dated a man?

00:18:23.580 In high school.

00:18:27.540 When did you graduate from high school?

00:18:30.820 You're trying to get me.

00:18:32.500 I see what you're trying to do, Brian.

00:18:34.420 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:18:35.180 Yeah, you're trying to get me.

00:18:36.200 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:18:38.280 Let's say about four years ago.

00:18:44.020 Yeah, about.

00:18:45.520 All right.

00:18:45.960 She's 23.

00:18:46.720 We figured it out.

00:18:47.740 Okay.

00:18:49.220 So, okay.

00:18:53.140 The last time you dated a man was four years ago, and you've been single for one year.

00:18:57.940 Any women in the picture currently? 0.96

00:19:00.340 No.

00:19:01.340 Okay.

00:19:02.400 The relationship that ended a year ago was with a woman.

00:19:05.680 Yes, it was.

00:19:06.320 Is that correct?

00:19:06.620 Okay.

00:19:07.260 Would you date a trans woman? 0.54

00:19:11.380 I would.

00:19:12.900 um it just depends on the woman it just depends um I would like it depends on how far along and

00:19:23.520 then in the transition she is as well okay so bottom surgery yes okay what about no bottom

00:19:30.200 surgery but fully uh transitioned otherwise probably not to date that's not my preference

00:19:37.940 Okay. Would you date a trans man? No. Before surgery, so there's still a vagina? No. 1.00

00:19:45.260 Interesting. Okay. Okay. And I'm trying to think. Single for one year. All right. What about you?

00:19:54.280 Um, I, my last relationship ended September last year. Um, it was with my daughter's dad. We were

00:20:01.020 engaged. Um, we were together since 2020. And then before that, my longest relationship was

00:20:09.100 with my ex-husband. Um, that was from 2004 to 2018. So 14, 14 years, almost 15. And then you've

00:20:19.140 been single for about uh six months six months okay and you've been married one time yes and

00:20:24.880 then you were you were engaged I was engaged to one other person the most recent guy yeah uh so

00:20:30.480 you're single yes okay uh you have how many kids two two uh you have one from uh my son is 19 from

00:20:41.060 my ex-husband and then my daughter is gonna be four in May let me four okay yeah uh and you said

00:20:47.580 you're you're 44 okay so you got pregnant at 39 40 um yeah i um turned 25 when i was pregnant with

00:20:55.580 my son i was 39 turned 40 when i was pregnant with my daughter gotcha and children are like

00:21:03.120 the greatest blessing like i i've learned so much from them and they've brought so much joy into my

00:21:08.300 life like your dog yeah like they don't a little child can look back at you and like i love you

00:21:15.420 mommy or you don't know my dog my dog my dog looks at me like how my cat is people think

00:21:21.340 babysitting is like having your own child they are nothing alike people will people will take 0.79

00:21:26.420 care of someone else's kids and be like oh my god this is awful and it's so much work there's

00:21:30.080 something magical that happens when it's your child that is just not even comparable to babysitting

00:21:36.400 or working with other people's kids so yeah i've had friends that i hate everybody's kids but i

00:21:41.600 love mine I think some people choose pets as children because it allows them to not be held

00:21:46.840 accountable for that being unlike a child see I that's I think that's exactly what I'm doing I

00:21:51.640 I'm worried that if I raised a kid like just thinking of the way I kind of like grew up I

00:21:56.880 wouldn't want to be like hypocritical about certain things and I don't know I just don't I don't trust

00:22:01.580 myself to raise a kid yeah but what's cool about it so like yeah my mom was a raging alcoholic 0.95

00:22:07.160 pretty pretty awful uh had a really bad childhood it was really really rough and uh my family life

00:22:13.580 was a disaster and what i did was grew up had my own kids and created that intact healthy happy

00:22:20.440 family broke the cycle that i never had yeah and really like leaned into motherhood and gave it

00:22:25.880 everything i had and it's to there's no way to put it into words for other people to understand if

00:22:31.300 they're stuck in that mindset of like baby bad i don't want to fail you sound scared to fail

00:22:36.520 you sound scared to fail and like you're avoiding you know risking pain your whole entire body after 0.98

00:22:42.700 giving birth i mean like you're fucking coochie and like your stomach like oh man like that just 1.00

00:22:48.460 sounds terrible no everything is hell everything is intact it's made to do that i've done it five 0.99

00:22:55.780 times there's nothing nothing nothing catastrophically blew open and didn't come back to

00:23:00.320 like that's it's not the outcome for everyone though no but most of the time it's fine most

00:23:06.440 of the time it's fine and you don't even remember the pain it's not and you're 22 like i wouldn't

00:23:11.640 make that a final decision like you know five years ten years from now yeah you know you might

00:23:17.280 be in a place too so okay you've been single for six months have you had a rebound no no i'm a

00:23:22.840 Latter-day Saint, no.

00:23:24.020 No, dating Latter-day Saint.

00:23:26.680 I've gone on some dates.

00:23:28.640 I recently...

00:23:30.880 LDS.

00:23:31.520 Yes.

00:23:32.680 Have you always been LDS?

00:23:34.200 I was baptized when I was 20.

00:23:36.020 20, okay.

00:23:37.580 Where do you live?

00:23:38.640 San Diego.

00:23:39.440 Oh, not Utah?

00:23:40.620 Okay.

00:23:40.900 No.

00:23:41.760 I've never lived in Utah.

00:23:43.680 I have lots of friends there,

00:23:44.660 but I actually prefer Latter-day Saint culture outside of Utah, over Utah, a lot.

00:23:51.500 Are your parents LDS?

00:23:53.800 Nope. I'm the only one in my family.

00:23:55.780 I'm sorry. What is LDS?

00:23:57.500 More Mormonism. 0.97

00:23:58.660 Oh, that's what he said.

00:23:59.960 Mormonism.

00:24:02.320 Okay.

00:24:04.180 So, okay, you

00:24:05.240 questioned for your

00:24:07.200 marriage. It was 14 years, the marriage?

00:24:10.460 And had you been dating for longer?

00:24:12.820 He was in the military

00:24:14.260 and we dated long

00:24:15.900 distance.

00:24:17.660 So you guys got married pretty quick.

00:24:19.620 Pretty quick, pretty young.

00:24:20.600 Yeah. I think we got married almost exactly a year after we met.

00:24:23.640 Okay.

00:24:23.960 But he was in Kuwait the majority of that time.

00:24:27.520 Gotcha. Who initiated the divorce? 0.98

00:24:30.180 Me.

00:24:30.900 Was there a particular reason or?

00:24:33.340 I don't know that I ever felt like I was a huge priority.

00:24:37.480 It was a dysfunctional relationship.

00:24:40.020 I, you know, I would say I have a decent relationship with him now.

00:24:44.200 You guys co-parent?

00:24:45.780 Well, my son's 19.

00:24:47.520 I guess prior to being an adult.

00:24:49.540 Yeah. I mean, if I think push comes to shove, I needed something, I could call him. I'm pretty close friends with his wife.

00:25:00.520 And you said it was a dysfunctional relationship?

00:25:05.680 You know, I mean, I think he's a good person. I think I'm a good person. I've used the analogy that it's like we're oil and water. We shake it up, we act like we mesh well, but then we repel each other.

00:25:17.580 Was there anything in the divorce? Was there anything cited specifically, you know, irreconcilable?

00:25:24.580 California is a no-fault state, so irreconcilable.

00:25:26.740 Just irreconcilable differences. Okay.

00:25:28.600 Yeah.

00:25:29.480 And did he pay you alimony?

00:25:35.720 Yes.

00:25:36.320 Does he still pay you alimony?

00:25:37.840 I get a percentage of his military retirement because we were married over 10 years.

00:25:42.040 Wait, so...

00:25:43.000 Our son graduated high school in June, so alimony and child support stopped at that point.

00:25:49.260 Okay.

00:25:51.260 And was he enlisted or was he an officer in the military?

00:25:55.660 He was enlisted.

00:25:56.520 Yeah.

00:25:56.800 And what did he go on to do after the military, his career?

00:26:00.440 Basically the same thing.

00:26:01.580 He was military police, so he is...

00:26:04.680 Okay, he stayed in the military for a long time.

00:26:06.420 Yeah.

00:26:06.800 Okay.

00:26:07.000 He retired at 15 years.

00:26:09.200 They did an early retirement because they were trying to...

00:26:11.480 I see.

00:26:11.580 lower the numbers. And so wait, you, you married in, was it 2004, 2004, and you stayed with him

00:26:18.140 until it was 26? 2018 was when our divorce was finalized. We filed in 2015. And you were with

00:26:23.880 him. So 14 years, right. And so, so it was finalized in 2018. Yeah. Okay. He retired in

00:26:32.460 2015. So they figure I get 50% of the 11 and a half years, basically, because that's when we

00:26:40.500 were together that he was earning the retirement so will he be paying you alimony for the duration

00:26:47.000 of his life the retirement yes wow um and uh it's not a ton of money but you know it helps

00:26:56.200 okay and uh he was also paying you child support too now what i'm assuming it sounds like this

00:27:02.600 arrangement was dictated by the court yeah the court it wasn't like informally

00:27:08.300 I mean, we worked with the mediator through a military base legal mediator helped us come up

00:27:16.380 with numbers. Were you working at all at the time or? So when we lived in Okinawa, Japan,

00:27:22.180 I had a salon in our house. My son was kindergarten when we moved there. So

00:27:28.280 I was able to do hair while he was at school. When did you move back to the USA?

00:27:32.960 um so i was in japan end of 2012 through may of 2015 and then he retired in august of 2015

00:27:42.740 i see okay yeah okay uh and then do question for you do you think it's fair that he has a

00:27:53.540 uh essentially you guys were together for 15 years which to be fair is a long time

00:27:58.860 In my understanding of the law, once you've been married beyond 10 years, that's when some of these long or sometimes lifelong alimony responsibilities start to kick in.

00:28:12.320 Do you think it's fair, though, that given that you guys have been separated for such a long period of time, eight years at this point, that he should still be paying you money?

00:28:23.220 Well, I mean, the retirement, I basically was an extension of him.

00:28:28.400 you know following him everywhere the Marine Corps sent us so the Marine Corps moves him

00:28:33.740 around every three years so it's often he was in the Marine Corps yes what was his job in the

00:28:39.240 military police oh he's military police yeah so he would enforce military laws among the

00:28:46.740 basically like a cop on yeah well you can't call a Marine a soldier but they're Marines

00:28:52.200 soldiers army aren't marines soldiers no well they will will they get offended by that i've

00:29:00.200 never heard that so yeah um so air forces airmen navy seamen marines the marine

00:29:07.500 yeah well they're all they're all soldiers nope if you're in the navy you're a soldier nope if

00:29:15.200 you're in the army you're a soldier am i i don't know maybe somebody in the chat general population

00:29:19.560 The motivation probably agrees with that.

00:29:22.260 I would defer to you.

00:29:23.200 But anybody in the military community would say otherwise.

00:29:27.200 I have a question, too.

00:29:28.980 Was he also LDS?

00:29:30.780 He was raised in the church.

00:29:32.360 He was not active when we got married.

00:29:35.540 He started going to church right before we moved to Japan.

00:29:39.880 That was actually part of why I moved there.

00:29:41.800 I thought they were pretty against divorce is the reason I was wondering.

00:29:45.620 Without a good reason.

00:29:47.040 just like i'm not feeling it anymore usually i thought they weren't into that i mean we get to

00:29:53.920 do what we want to do i mean i i'm not gonna let my religion dictate my life well you should

00:30:00.260 no i know i know but like okay so we have for example what's called the word of wisdom which

00:30:06.420 part of is no alcohol so i've had a lot of people why do you let your church tell you you can't

00:30:12.040 drink i'm like well they say hey this is a good health standard there's lots of problems that come

00:30:17.980 with excessive drinking and whatnot you know you could be an alcoholic but then i choose if i want

00:30:23.320 to follow it or not yeah but does the church see marriage as a religious sacrament or just like a

00:30:28.280 contract with the state your church i mean we have these gorgeous temples all over the world and when

00:30:35.240 you get married in a temple it's called being sealed together so you're you are sealed together

00:30:41.280 for time and all eternity well what's the point of that if you can just break it because you're

00:30:45.920 just like i don't feel very important um well it was more than that but that was i mean yeah um

00:30:55.120 what was there like abuse going on or was there i mean infidelity or there was no

00:31:00.640 like physical abuse i would say he was emotionally abusive to me emotionally abusive emotionally

00:31:06.480 abusive uh just to we'll dive more into that but a few clarifying questions so um you said you

00:31:14.020 when i asked you if you think it's fair that despite you guys being separated for eight years

00:31:20.340 at this point you now your child is now an adult so his child support just to be clear child support

00:31:25.840 now that stopped in in june last year when my son graduated my understanding in california

00:31:30.560 sometimes in california you have to pay sometimes even beyond uh yeah like through college so it

00:31:37.220 could be 21 22 yeah so it's just a military retirement i see um but i asked if you if you

00:31:45.300 thought it was fair that he was still paying you money um all this time and you said well i was

00:31:50.060 i was i followed him wherever you were an extension now you said he was a military

00:31:56.260 police officer uh i would imagine that a military police officer would encounter the same sort of

00:32:02.040 things that like a civilian police officer deals with whether it's you know um enforcing the laws

00:32:08.200 of the military and so sometimes and you know they probably do traffic stops on base or they'll do

00:32:14.160 they'll be handling issues with the uh the marines and uh so i guess what specifically

00:32:23.120 were you doing what what were your law enforcement obligations i didn't mean it like that i was i

00:32:31.160 was saying that i was an extension of him basically because where the marine corps sent him

00:32:36.680 you like i went also could in a i mean a corporate job could send a husband to 0.90

00:32:43.660 north dakota or alaska and uh so yeah okay

00:32:51.080 could you voluntarily be like look um it's been you paid your child support you paid the alimony

00:33:01.480 you know maybe i'll let you off the hook could you voluntarily do that potentially i guess

00:33:09.200 so what would it take for us to convince you here that because your obligations to him have

00:33:15.760 completely ceased correct like you don't still sleep with him right no right you haven't slept

00:33:20.620 with him i'm assuming since perhaps even well before the divorce right so the uh your obligations

00:33:28.700 to him have completely ceased but despite you you were engaged to this other guy and you've maybe

00:33:34.620 dated other men in since that time he still has this ongoing obligation to you which i find i mean

00:33:42.520 look the law it's not entirely your fault insofar as the the law the court system that has this

00:33:50.600 set up to and enables it but maybe you could voluntarily say you know what forget it would

00:33:58.160 you do that so the majority of our relationship I was a stay-at-home mom I had some retail jobs

00:34:03.980 before our son was born when he was just over two I went to cosmetology school and then I've worked

00:34:13.120 like in home um when he got to kindergarten age um but um where was i going with that

00:34:22.600 what you were saying that uh so we have a son together um after the divorce the divorce decree

00:34:31.660 said that i could live in san diego county orange county and riverside county but really i was only

00:34:38.300 allowed to be in Oceanside because that's where our son was in school so having you know basically

00:34:45.600 been a stay-at-home mom and then being in one of the most expensive places in the United States 0.99

00:34:51.060 like it's been a struggle okay uh sure so yeah I could have chosen to move someplace less expensive

00:34:59.980 but I would have given up custody well I mean just to be clear so I'm gonna go ahead and grant that

00:35:07.040 the alimony that you received in addition to the child support was let's just go ahead and although

00:35:12.680 I might have some contentions with it let's grant that uh up until your son became an adult

00:35:17.380 it was warranted and justified but now that your son is 19 you said yeah um you could move so where

00:35:25.720 is your son in school in San Diego um he was going to go to UTI um so I've yeah but then

00:35:33.640 Instead, for him to say that he went to UTI and it is for me.

00:35:37.380 He did want to go to school to be a mechanic, but he...

00:35:41.040 Well, so where is he now?

00:35:42.140 He's just working.

00:35:43.520 He's in San Diego?

00:35:44.540 Yeah.

00:35:44.880 Okay.

00:35:45.720 Does he live with you still?

00:35:47.700 No, he's mostly living with his dad right now.

00:35:50.180 Oh, he lives with his dad.

00:35:51.260 Okay.

00:35:52.920 Well, so, but I understand the justification.

00:35:55.800 Yeah.

00:35:56.020 Like, okay, look, you took time away from work so that you could stay at home, take care of the kid.

00:36:03.180 but now that there's not a kid involved and this is basically the same thing as like a 401k

00:36:08.820 like would you be asking somebody who is really splitting a 401k post-divorce he worked for it

00:36:15.700 well no but he receives a military was it military retirement pension retirement yeah

00:36:22.760 i mean it's essentially the same thing um uh well and you know i was taking care of him

00:36:31.400 all those years that we were taking care of you food utilities the rent he paid everything right

00:36:38.940 that seems like at some points for well for a 15 year period of time when you guys were living

00:36:44.900 together it you were staying at home it sounds like he was the primary soul breadwinner even

00:36:49.980 i mean he was at certain points um while we're in japan i definitely i was pretty successful

00:36:56.080 while we're there. Okay, sure. You did your part in moments. Can you do that now? Can you

00:37:03.680 work now? Unfortunately, I get pretty bad sciatica, so doing hair full-time

00:37:10.420 unfortunately caused a lot of pain. What about a desk job or something like that? Can't you

00:37:15.340 find another career path? I'm working on it. I'm sorry, I keep asking you to define things,

00:37:21.260 but can you define the sciatica? I don't know what that is. Oh, it's the sciatic nerve

00:37:26.020 goes through your back down to your legs and if it gets pinched it causes like I would rather

00:37:32.840 be in labor than have sciatica sciatica is way worse I mean you could definitely work from home

00:37:38.160 like on the computer you could lay on the I'd like my boyfriend literally he works on his computer

00:37:42.340 oh sorry my boyfriend works from his computer from home a lot and he can lay on the couch he can

00:37:47.980 do whatever he wants I mean there's definitely jobs out there for sure especially in this day

00:37:51.740 age that you know you could most definitely do that would not you know compromise your health

00:37:57.780 with that condition though was your husband active duty like was so he was in combat ever no he he

00:38:05.400 was deployed to kuwait prior to us getting married but that was the only deployment did he ever

00:38:10.280 discharge his weapon in the line of service i mean aside from training exercises i don't believe so

00:38:17.040 okay i'm sorry the whole like i did my part sometimes by having some retail jobs and that

00:38:22.740 equates to equal value of him putting his life on the front line to defend your freedom that's

00:38:28.240 going to be a no for me but same same well it sounds to be fair it sounds like he wasn't a

00:38:35.740 combat soldier he was a military police which yeah so he was police officer on the base basically

00:38:41.300 Right. Which, I mean, does carry risks. Still carries risks and is just stressful. I mean, being a law enforcement officer is a stressful job. You're often dealing with complicated people, let's say.

00:38:56.420 The stories.

00:38:57.200 I'm sure

00:38:58.420 even though they were soldiers

00:39:00.400 or marines

00:39:02.240 can different branches

00:39:07.360 I assume he would only be

00:39:09.740 policing marines

00:39:11.200 because there is interfacing sometimes

00:39:13.560 between different branches

00:39:15.380 I mean it depends where you are

00:39:16.640 so when we were in Okinawa

00:39:18.720 they had every branch of the military

00:39:20.820 but they all had their own bases

00:39:22.640 so the only

00:39:24.240 there's overlap between

00:39:25.800 like on a Marine Corps base, there will be a Naval hospital. So the Navy does all the medical

00:39:31.120 on Marine Corps base. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just thinking like, cause sometimes the military

00:39:35.840 police, like, let's say there's a, a cadet or recruit or whatever, or Marine who's like out

00:39:41.700 drunk in the, the bar area of Okinawa or whatever. Like I'm assuming like, and he's acting a fool, 0.97

00:39:48.780 like a military police officer is going to come. And if there's also like an airman who's in the 0.93

00:39:54.500 group and they're all i don't know if there would be some sort of authority over the uh even though

00:40:01.460 it's a different branch if like the airman's part in in cahoots with the marine who's acting

00:40:09.460 ridiculous it doesn't matter but no i get what you're saying i do believe in something like that

00:40:15.440 they would try to call his command but i don't know maybe we could uh maybe you could just let 0.92

00:40:20.160 him off the hook what do you think today no maybe some down the line down down the line does he is

00:40:26.060 he or wait do you think that he's bothered by it is he bothered by i hope he bothered by it 0.96

00:40:32.740 i'm fucking pissed like imagine think of it like this think of i i know maybe some of you haven't 0.90

00:40:39.320 been married in these situations but think about some ex-boyfriend from years ago and like every 0.99

00:40:44.180 month you got paying 300 bucks yeah i know you'd be like what the fuck the kid's gone i know somebody 0.86

00:40:49.000 that's in this situation who's not divorced and the person won't sign the paperwork and they were 0.97

00:40:55.520 military and she's literally holding on to it just for a paycheck that's horrible and he has ptsd for

00:41:02.760 me like a combat veteran he served in iraq and yeah she literally sees him as a paycheck

00:41:10.580 i guess my better question is are you are you intentionally doing this because you're vengeful

00:41:17.100 or is it just because it is how it is and you haven't ever thought about the fact of how he

00:41:22.460 could be responding to that emotionally like if he's never complained about it to you to your face

00:41:29.780 and you don't have the vengeful intention why break something that wasn't broken like if it's

00:41:36.380 working for you if it's working for you and you know he's not mad about it or he's at least not

00:41:41.060 vocal about it why break something that's not broken i mean it's legally what was that's what

00:41:49.820 i'm saying you guys had a mediator though so it wasn't amicable hold on legally used to be able

00:41:54.200 to own slaves not today though i legally you could own slaves was it was it was it correct yeah

00:42:02.940 like we could i mean perhaps in your position you might not agree with this but

00:42:10.200 there is some social current that does seem to point towards certain degrees of alimony and

00:42:19.760 child support as being a bit unfair towards the payer. Like, should you be bound for, imagine,

00:42:28.780 say you were married from the age of 20 to 31, and then this woman at 31, she divorces him.

00:42:36.260 I'm not saying you did this. Let's say she cheats on him. Legally, she's still owed alimony. 0.99

00:42:42.380 I mean, you could even remove the cheating component to it. But that is a scenario where

00:42:48.520 the woman can be at fault for the cause of the divorce and still receive the benefits. But 0.99

00:42:53.640 should this man, say, 30 years later, still have to pay her alimony? I think not. I don't think,

00:43:04.580 okay you married at 20 you divorced at 31 it was past 10 years sometimes i think it depends on the

00:43:10.140 state the laws vary but i think past 10 years you can get into permanent life alimony territory

00:43:16.660 and which we didn't we agreed to just have the alimony go until our son graduated high school

00:43:22.340 so well the child support no alimony alimony and so you're not getting alimony anymore or you're

00:43:27.860 just getting the retirement that's the retirement well that's alimony that's still not alimony

00:43:32.800 well i could um well it's an asset regard i i would suppose regardless of how we categorize it

00:43:40.420 he owes you a financial burden like he has to pay you money beyond the course uh

00:43:46.380 like for forever yeah i don't know like if it was before we moved to japan we were contemplating

00:43:56.740 getting divorced at that point and that was when he decided to start going back to church and i said

00:44:02.680 you know if if we do if i do go to japan with you and we do try it'll put us over the 10-year mark

00:44:10.160 and it'll change things financially afterwards oh you had that conversation i didn't have that

00:44:13.780 conversation with him and the marriage was in california yes and the divorce proceedings i'm

00:44:19.860 assuming in california yeah california uh life alimony cutoff date i don't know if that's gonna

00:44:27.960 prompt it there's no automatic lifetime alimony for marriages of 10 years or more the court the

00:44:35.980 court often keeps jurisdiction indefinitely allowing support to continue until death of

00:44:42.460 either party so if 10 years that in california at least where where you had your marriage and 0.97

00:44:48.540 divorce it is 10 years so damn that's uh yeah that sucks that i don't know i don't know that's 0.93

00:45:00.720 the risk of marriage everybody has to know that going into it you could lose everything wait a 0.98

00:45:05.460 minute i think everybody at this table probably besides me and maybe a couple well a few of you

00:45:10.440 but that side of the table is gonna say men and women are equal so why is it only the men that

00:45:15.760 have to pay but why do you assume that no you don't think that men and women are equal

00:45:20.600 i don't believe that men and women are equal in the physical and emotional sense by scientific

00:45:29.260 biology we're not but i don't believe that because of biology we should be treated and legally equal

00:45:35.140 though you believe in legal and political equality between men and women i would assume it's pretty

00:45:41.220 rare that i come across women who don't like i believe that should happen or do i believe that's

00:45:45.680 what's in society that's how it ought to be i believe that is how it ought to be okay then if

00:45:50.920 you believe that's how it ought to be why is it only the man that has to pay the alimony

00:45:55.300 or the spousal support that's country law that's um belief by i understand what is why ought that

00:46:02.360 be the case why aren't you saying look if we have equality there should be equality in divorce too 0.97

00:46:07.820 i believe that is true and that's why i was like that's the risk if you're marrying with the laws

00:46:12.780 that way that's the risk you take unless you want to deal with that then don't get married

00:46:18.600 so men don't get married that is like the simple point no one wants to have that conversation

00:46:24.980 because like that's wild why not get married but also divorce is a pain you know and i feel like

00:46:30.840 a lot of people don't think through their decision of marriage because i mean we're having this

00:46:36.080 conversation right now like if it's fair or not but that was i think the solution is to change

00:46:41.340 the laws i don't think that marriage should even be through the laws and the courts that should be

00:46:45.520 governed by the church but we can get into that later yeah well so like hypothetically in my

00:46:50.520 situation say i had been the active duty military member and he had been a stay-at-home parent

00:46:56.340 after getting divorced i absolutely would be paying him the money so it's not the

00:47:01.400 the because he was the man it was because he was the breadwinner and that was an asset that was

00:47:08.040 earned during the marriage so she she is right insofar as uh it's not the the laws are not 0.98

00:47:15.260 specifically gendered that says men it's it's right but do men are men typically women have

00:47:22.860 the children and so everything's set up that you know if you just decide i'm not happy you just

00:47:28.560 leave and he owes you for life i don't know that that don't seem right i mean it was something it

00:47:34.440 was probably more complicated than i just wasn't happy the relationship wasn't good well we're here

00:47:39.880 to talk about relationships so like maybe you can give us like a hint as to what else was going on

00:47:44.840 or i mean he would yell at me often like i don't think women should tolerate being yelled at by

00:47:50.840 their husbands well i think i think there's i think there's definitely times when uh your

00:47:58.980 husband might need to set you straight and i don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that

00:48:04.200 i mean wives yell at their husbands plenty don't they if i was going to be giving somebody 1.00

00:48:09.060 constructive criticism to set them straight do you think yelling at them is going to be the way to

00:48:15.080 have them receive the message? I think that expecting men to act like women and be 1.00

00:48:23.880 to psychologize everything and sound like an HR manager, men are not going to, this is what women 0.67

00:48:30.260 need to understand. If you want to get married, don't have the expectation that a man is going

00:48:34.140 to sit down and go, now, sweetie, I would like to share with you my feelings about what just

00:48:40.360 transpired and it's okay if you want to share i'm gonna share like that's not how men communicate

00:48:45.880 men are more straightforward and they'll say they'll usually try to talk to you first and go

00:48:50.620 hey i don't like this this behavior needs to change whatever and then when we cry or equivocate

00:48:56.860 or give them all kinds of trouble or dance around it or turn it into a five day long argument they

00:49:01.100 usually have enough and then they explode and then they yell now maybe that's not what happened

00:49:06.380 with you. But when women say emotional abuse to me, the first thing that comes to my head is 0.94

00:49:11.640 they're thinking that the man needs to act like a mommy. He needs to act like a girl. He needs to 0.99

00:49:17.160 communicate like a female would. And that's not fair to expect from men. And I think that if you 1.00

00:49:22.880 want that, you should marry a woman. I mean, don't marry a woman because that's not a thing. 1.00

00:49:26.480 I feel like in our relationship, I was probably more in his mommy role versus his wife role,

00:49:32.940 because it's like hey the lawn needs to get mowed yeah i'll do it tomorrow and it's like hey can you

00:49:40.020 just see that the lawn needs to get mowed and i'm doing xyz and that sounds like every yeah that

00:49:45.200 sounds like every marriage yeah it's like i don't think it's too much to ask for another grown adult

00:49:51.640 to actively be participating in the home instead of it isn't but is it worth breaking a family up

00:49:57.360 over because the grass is a little long like you really this no i mean that was just one example

00:50:02.620 Well, it's just one example. What I, what I, and I used to do this myself when I was younger. I used

00:50:07.280 to do this too. And I've seen all the women in my life do this. You're watching the man and you're 0.79

00:50:12.220 going, he didn't see, does he not see that the grass needs to be mowed? And did he not see that

00:50:17.260 he dropped his socks on the bathroom floor and didn't pick them up? And I've told him to for a

00:50:20.940 million times. He doesn't care about me. I've told him I don't like that. That means he doesn't care

00:50:27.420 about me. He doesn't love me. That's emotional abuse. But in men's minds, they're going, I got

00:50:32.460 to go to work. I got to deal with my boss. I got to make sure that bill gets paid. I'm exhausted.

00:50:37.940 20 other people are calling me with things that they want. I'm going to get to, it's just fucking 0.98

00:50:42.460 grass. You know, in a man's mind, it's like, it's just socks. It's just grass. They're not trying to 0.99

00:50:48.200 say, I don't love you. And if you can understand that and go, it's just grass. We'll get, we'll get

00:50:53.440 through the grass. I had this big aha moment with my husband years and years ago where we were

00:50:58.640 fighting over something small and stupid. It was so small and stupid that I don't even remember what 1.00

00:51:02.360 it is. And I just wouldn't drop it. I was probably on my period, to be perfectly honest, because I 1.00

00:51:07.620 only get like that when I'm, you know, that time of the month. And finally, he just looked at me,

00:51:11.840 said, are you going to divorce me over this? Is it that important to you that you're going to

00:51:15.560 divorce? Are you going to walk away and divorce me? And I went, no. And he was like, all right,

00:51:21.380 then drop it. And I was really mad in the moment. But when I walked away and calmed down, I went,

00:51:26.200 you know, he's right. Like our marriage, our family together is way bigger than whatever

00:51:30.460 this petty thing is or even a bunch of petty things and maybe I should try to be more understanding

00:51:36.780 of like where his mind has to be what it takes to be a breadwinner and a provider all of the things

00:51:42.280 that he carries on his shoulders that we don't really think about and I think women we process

00:51:47.200 everything through our own experience and our own feelings and we personalize stuff so much that

00:51:52.180 when men do little things like that uh and I've just seen this happen to so many of my friends

00:51:57.440 and family members like a couple I know got divorced because and the woman said he sets his

00:52:02.280 coffee down on the on the counter every day and it drips and it leaves a ring and I've told him a

00:52:08.000 million times that I that bugs me and he just won't wipe the all he has to do is wipe the coffee

00:52:13.920 and that's how I know he doesn't care about me okay but at the same time if he's the breadwinner

00:52:18.940 if he's the breadwinner and you're staying home like you're cooking you're cleaning you're being

00:52:23.060 the traditional wife yeah then like i'm not gonna lie he's out there making all the money paying all

00:52:28.420 the bills then like it's okay you can pick up the socks like that's your job you know like you can

00:52:34.000 maybe you can't mow the lawn and maybe if he if he's truly too busy or he just really hates mowing

00:52:39.920 the lawn maybe maybe go to him and go you know would it make sense to pay somebody to come and

00:52:44.080 mow the lawn can we afford that maybe that would be better um i just think we are i think and i

00:52:50.740 think it's a lot of cultural influence that tells us to constantly keep track of everything the man's

00:52:54.720 not doing and every little infraction that he makes instead of being like really generous and

00:52:59.180 going you know men have a lot on their plate they don't cry about it he's not going to come tell me

00:53:02.980 all his problems he's going to keep it in here and try to deal with it so I don't know and we call

00:53:08.760 it being an independent woman and they just call it being an adult and go about their lives and I

00:53:13.300 find it really interesting that as a majority women obviously love testosterone when it comes 0.98

00:53:18.900 to paying for things, providing, protecting, putting their life on the line in the bedroom.

00:53:24.320 And I know that because even though the majority of the brainwashed feminists online say they 1.00

00:53:28.760 hate being controlled by a man, statistically what's funny is when they are alone in their

00:53:34.060 rooms at night, the most viewed adult content topic is what? Being controlled by a man. So

00:53:39.080 it's almost like they're denying their biology so hard. And then when they're alone, it just

00:53:44.120 comes out and they can't deny it. Um, but it's kind of unfair that we're willing to enjoy the

00:53:50.040 benefits of testosterone, but then unwilling to nurture it when it comes to us needing to be kind

00:53:55.840 and understanding of those things. Like they are tenfold because our emotions are haywire,

00:54:01.520 which we can admit through, it seems like silly memes, like, Oh, I said that crazy thing on my

00:54:07.340 period. But when you're asked, it's like, no, sorry about what I said when I was hungry.

00:54:11.260 exactly it's like no vote for her for president it's okay if she bombs texas when she's pmsing 1.00

00:54:16.920 like no so none of that makes sense to me and it's not hard to just wipe up the ring call someone to

00:54:23.420 mow the lawn or yeah do it yourself or you know and to be fair though our generation we're about

00:54:29.120 the same age our generation especially the boomers um that everybody born between like 1960 and 1990

00:54:35.880 we had movies tv magazines radio programs everything in the media everything in the 0.87

00:54:41.660 pop culture was like men suck think of every every sitcom homer simpson everybody loves 1.00

00:54:48.380 raymond like all the men are idiots they're bumbling fools and the wife's just like 1.00

00:54:52.920 this guy is so stupid and i have to take care of everything and he just wouldn't be able to live 1.00

00:54:58.680 if i didn't do every little thing what an idiot and it's like we just really got bombarded with 1.00

00:55:03.000 that propaganda. And I think it made all of us look at our relationships and constantly count 0.99

00:55:08.980 everything that we think he should be doing that he's not doing or all the little ways that he

00:55:14.380 didn't take into account our feelings or nurture our emotions or things like that. And the truth

00:55:19.180 is like marriage is a lifelong commitment. You're going to have a lot of ups and downs. You're going

00:55:23.840 to disappoint each other. You're going to say bad things to each other. You're going to get into bad

00:55:27.240 habits that you got to break. And it takes, you know, wanting to work through that stuff. But

00:55:31.580 I just I just feel like when I hear emotional abuse more often than like real emotional abuse

00:55:38.040 would be something like he wouldn't let me speak to my own children uh he wouldn't let me leave the

00:55:43.000 house and you know uh see my friends or like something major like that not like I told him

00:55:49.260 to mow the lawn and he said he would do it tomorrow and then he didn't so an example of something that

00:55:53.660 would probably fit a little bit more with what you're saying is he liked to kind of buddy up

00:55:59.240 with whoever my closest girlfriend was and like try and talk bad about me and like try to like

00:56:04.860 you know so you have to invade a man poison there well well that would be legitimate yeah that would 1.00

00:56:11.780 be legitimate and then because i mentioned women i don't think you should do that i don't think you 0.98

00:56:15.860 should get together with your friends and talk shit about your husbands either so i don't know 1.00

00:56:19.740 with your partner stays with like if you have an argument yeah you're not gonna go tell your friend 0.98

00:56:23.180 what is wrong with you it's it's not a relationship with you your partner and your friend it's between

00:56:28.280 you and your partner it's private so and you're gonna forgive and then you mentioned everybody

00:56:33.160 loves raymond raymond was horrible about using weaponized incompetence about like i'm gonna just

00:56:41.040 do this so badly that she doesn't ask me to do it and it's like i mean the show worked it made you

00:56:48.240 and then and then as as a mom my job never ends like am i allowed to be like oh yeah i've been

00:56:57.520 playing with the kids all day or I've been feeding them or you know do all the mom stuff and like hey

00:57:02.440 can I have a day off like are you gonna like most most no moms get days off yeah I don't know I had

00:57:10.300 five so if I only had one that would seem like literally a vacation to me I I don't think that

00:57:15.620 one would ever have given me although actually now that I think of it having one is harder than

00:57:20.560 having two or more because when you only have one you're like their whole world you're their only

00:57:25.440 person um you know until they're much older so it can be really tough up until they're like six or

00:57:30.720 seven but uh I don't know I just feel like what do you think it was worth it now like investing all

00:57:41.100 that time and then just and getting divorced and or do you wish you could go back now and do things

00:57:46.700 differently you know having um had a child with somebody else um my son's dad was definitely a

00:57:55.160 much more hands on dad i don't have any complaints about his participation and like the parenting

00:58:00.820 aspect of it that's good um you know i i felt like it was i was his arm candy like he he liked 0.94

00:58:07.720 me because he thought i was hot like it's a big part of our value that's fucked i'm sorry like 0.99

00:58:14.320 i don't know why women always it's always like oh our values are our looks it's always our looks 0.99

00:58:18.880 but no i mean no i know but it's fucked that it is because like we have so much more to offer 0.94

00:58:23.700 then why are there so many people capitalizing on it because they choose to like what i'm a mechanic 0.96

00:58:30.280 bro i fix those cars wait wait hold on let me just paint a picture of what you just said

00:58:36.100 i you said women have so much to offer yes and i asked you uh not in a dismissive way but i asked

00:58:44.320 you in a asking for clarification way i guess i asked you what and your first answer is my 0.96

00:58:50.640 occupation absolutely is that you're a mechanic absolutely why would a guy why the fuck so okay 0.88

00:58:56.160 is what are you dating are you dating men who have like 10 cars that are old and they're all 0.94

00:59:00.940 constantly breaking down no i'm singing like bringing value to society we're talking wait

00:59:07.000 how about bringing it to a relationship like a marriage for your husband wasn't that the context

00:59:11.480 i'm saying bringing value in general to the world but wait no no no hold on no because because

00:59:17.080 women's looks to the world that's that's all the value we bring okay i see so you're saying we're

00:59:20.940 bearing children we're looking hot you know it's like i'm saying no we have so much more to bring

00:59:25.600 not i mean obviously to relationships do we have that's different okay i thought it was within the

00:59:29.740 context of relationships and i was like no i'm just saying in general like we have so much more 0.98

00:59:34.440 to bring than just our tits and like our asses and like it's i don't know i just feel like a lot 0.98

00:59:39.360 of women are just your statement about the looks thing that was within while women can bring their 1.00

00:59:46.900 looks and that can be a value if you're a model or something i guess you were talking about

00:59:53.180 relationships um i see it in a way i don't agree with that is unfortunately accurate and true to

00:59:59.340 society where they are paying for only fans i mean it's an obvious statistic that there are over four

01:00:06.300 million girls doing only fans and there aren't anywhere near four million men doing only fans

01:00:12.600 because women wouldn't pay for that they pay for smutty romance novels to secretly replace their 1.00

01:00:17.820 husbands instead so they go on to look for body parts and things like that and that is why i think

01:00:26.700 it's important in a relationship to like avoid the toxic side of that because it's like hey

01:00:30.780 if i pick the person that i think is the best in every way why am i going to go google boobs when

01:00:36.800 i have my favorite ones right here and that's where like the value lies but i think there's

01:00:41.420 unfortunately a monetary value and i know women know that with um pink tax and when feminism 1.00

01:00:48.360 happened even though women were given the right to and i'm not saying all women there are women

01:00:52.640 in untraditional jobs which is great but most of them are choosing jobs in hair makeup fashion

01:01:01.080 things that have to do with the way they look that's true so it feels like women feel that way 1.00

01:01:06.320 on a mass level but don't really want to admit it because they want to find another reason to label

01:01:11.060 something misogynistic i think it's firm uh okay i've actually said a few times after going to

01:01:19.240 beauty school that it kind of saved me i was in a really low place before that but everything that

01:01:25.700 i learned um in beauty school just really helped me like have more of an identity too

01:01:32.720 yeah the whole i need to find myself i don't have an identity i don't get that maybe you can

01:01:40.280 explain that because women say that all the time. And I've, that's a problem I've never had. I've

01:01:44.400 always known who I am. I've always known what my identity is. I don't know how you get. How old

01:01:48.960 were you when you got married? The first time I was 22, 23. Okay. I feel like, you know, I got

01:01:58.780 married young. I hadn't developed a career of my own. I didn't do that. I had my first baby at 20.

01:02:04.760 I followed my ex-husband everywhere the Marine Corps sent him. So at that point in time, if I

01:02:09.120 had met you I would have said my husband does this my son is this age I didn't really have something

01:02:14.480 aside from I'm a mom yeah but before that like growing up I was known as the smart girl who

01:02:22.320 was really good at art and music I played like seven instruments I painted I drew I had stuff

01:02:27.680 that was in art galleries um I got ridiculously good grades without trying very hard so that was

01:02:33.340 like my identity then I became a mom and I was like this is amazing I want to do this as much

01:02:38.320 as possible and so now I'm all those things and I'm a mom and then I got married and so now I'm

01:02:44.000 all those things plus I'm a mom and I'm a wife and I'm a Christian which is my primary identity

01:02:49.640 over everything else that will never leave me my whole life so I don't I think when women say I

01:02:54.820 didn't know who I was or I lost my identity when I had a kid or things like that what they're really

01:02:59.860 saying is like I need to find something to do I have too much time on my hands and I'm bored

01:03:05.320 to be honest I think I mean we psychologize everything and turn it everything into this like

01:03:11.540 massive problem or crisis when it's not it's like you have food you have a roof over your head

01:03:19.000 you're not starving you're not in pain you're you don't have cancer you're not dying you're fine

01:03:24.140 you're like if you don't know your identity like get a hobby I just I think I just I don't get

01:03:31.120 that it drives me nuts what's wrong with being a mom being in such a large part of an identity

01:03:37.060 I don't think there's anything wrong with it like hey I take care of someone but that's it

01:03:41.920 like I just don't understand I just made this whole person and molded them from absolutely

01:03:46.580 nothing who am I I feel like right now as a 44 year old like I love the I'm a mom identity like

01:03:55.780 i really i feel like i've grown into that you heard a lot of messaging telling you that being

01:04:00.760 just a mom was like for lazy people or losers like you know you don't even have a career wow 1.00

01:04:06.700 like well like what do you do all day there was definitely the aspect of like he was the one who

01:04:13.840 was working and like i had been working before our son was born and you know child care is so

01:04:20.420 ridiculously expensive that often if a mom works the majority of the money goes to child care

01:04:26.220 anyhow so well why do you think you needed a job like what I mean that was like 20 years ago

01:04:33.580 like yeah what do you think it was when you were in your 20s and you felt like I'm nobody because

01:04:38.740 I don't have a job I think had I been in a relationship that I felt I was happy in I mean

01:04:46.180 yeah but relationships aren't for making you happy this is another

01:04:50.260 no it's like but you were looking to him for no no that's not what i'm saying i'm saying

01:04:57.940 if if you are in a relationship where you both are feeling fulfilled and you know supported and

01:05:06.220 like you're happy then so you have a different mindset i guess yeah yeah i guess i'm wondering

01:05:13.580 So like, because it sounds like you had the mindset that all of the pop culture tells women to have, you know, where you're constantly look, you're almost looking for the unhappiness.

01:05:23.560 There's two major studies that have been done.

01:05:26.100 One was at Cambridge.

01:05:27.120 The other was, I think, University of Pennsylvania.

01:05:29.540 Huge, sweeping, broad studies that lasted.

01:05:32.240 The first one was like 10 years.

01:05:34.480 The second one was about the same.

01:05:36.280 And the first one they did mostly in the West.

01:05:38.440 The second one they did other cultures to see if they could duplicate the results.

01:05:42.120 The first one was called The Paradox of Female Happiness.

01:05:45.660 The second one, almost the same name, The Paradox of Women's Declining Happiness. 0.58

01:05:50.440 And it's funny because in the intro where the authors break down their findings, they said,

01:05:55.880 we have found overwhelmingly that everywhere and every time across time, regardless of race, culture, or financial situation, that women are unhappy.

01:06:07.760 Women are just more affected by negative emotion. 1.00

01:06:10.780 they are just more they're more up and they're more down we just do this a lot and I think the

01:06:16.380 worst advice we give young women is you should be happy if you're not happy there's something wrong 1.00

01:06:23.100 if you're not happy you need a life change you either need to switch a career or get a divorce

01:06:27.940 or find a new man it's like you're gonna be unhappy and the only way you solve that is

01:06:33.740 finding it like you know within you through God understanding you know that simply the fact that

01:06:39.920 your life is a miracle and that's enough and that every single day you get to decide what you're

01:06:45.440 going to do with your life that day and who you're going to be that day and even when you're going

01:06:49.840 through it and things are not good you still have that power to to make those decisions every day

01:06:55.120 but what the pop culture tells us is if you're unhappy it's probably a man first of all like

01:07:03.120 Sabrina Carpenter and Taylor Swift would tell you they are useless um or that or that you need

01:07:10.560 you know a job you have to have a career you need to be fulfilled and like all those words are

01:07:16.080 buzzwords that don't really mean anything at the end of the day and I think it sounds to me like

01:07:20.540 you got really hit with all that propaganda from our generation I did too I did too I think we all

01:07:25.560 There's probably a little bit of that, too, but, like, you know, there would be times where, like, he would, like, continue to go at me and go at me until, like, he got me to cry, and then, like, the next day, he would always come back and be like, oh, I told myself I need to stop, but, like, there was just something in him that he wouldn't stop, like, getting upset with me until I was crying.

01:07:49.260 hmm uh well let's continue on with uh people's relationship status what about

01:07:55.260 what about a really quick actually here we gotta um no no hold on hide that uh

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01:08:10.980 we need to get the likes we're at 1500 likes we need to get the likes to 3 000

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01:08:27.140 relationship status please i am in a relationship almost two years now but the longest one i've had

01:08:34.420 was three years all right what about you um i'm married to jesus amen okay so you're going to

01:08:42.860 become a nun? No, I'm just, I'm celibate. I'm, you know, fully focused on myself, my son.

01:08:49.740 Okay. So you're single. Yes. Longest relationship? Um, I think it was 10 or 11 years. My son's

01:08:56.620 father. Were you married? No. Ever married? Nope. How long you've been single for? Um,

01:09:03.140 a while, a few years. Uh, okay. And then also I, in your introduction, you, uh,

01:09:10.880 there was something you wanted to share about you i did that you wrote why don't you share that

01:09:19.560 what did i write that oh um on ig is that what you're talking about yes oh you you want me to

01:09:27.740 share that yes please share it oh okay i'm a pardon j6 sir

01:09:31.140 cool so you stormed the capital yeah allegedly allegedly allegedly you may or may not

01:09:40.760 okay cool pardons though fist bump trump do you have do you have like a pardon from trump i do

01:09:47.940 i do you should is it like a piece of paper or how did so they actually they sent digital because

01:09:53.960 there were so many of us that got a part in the same day okay they sent digital copies nice yeah

01:09:59.240 so an official u.s pardon attorney sent me the compelled you to go riot at the capitol a lot

01:10:06.700 that was not a peaceful protest there you will never see i've never in my lifetime i've never

01:10:13.020 seen weapons there were they were there were the guns you didn't see the video of the cop like

01:10:17.740 getting shoved a riot is what happens when black lives matter shows up and burns down the whole 0.99

01:10:22.040 town this was a bunch of people meandering through the capital you know that there was the fbi the 0.91

01:10:28.100 only person who got killed was one of the protesters they were chanting what kill nancy

01:10:34.020 poloski is that what they were saying and didn't her husband's house get broke something like that

01:10:37.760 happened i remember that happened you wanted those likes that brian yeah you wanted those

01:10:42.860 well um do you think you said you've never seen anything like that before

01:10:47.860 did you participate have you participated in like no kings or any protest i haven't been to

01:10:53.800 any protest ever you've never been i've never been to protest i just no offense you look like

01:10:58.640 i look i can see that i can see that i mean i don't i feel like going to a protest like

01:11:04.680 yes you can show like this is what i stand for this is what i support whatever but in reality

01:11:09.160 like being there like what what is that going to do like that literally doesn't do it yeah you're

01:11:13.540 just standing you're just standing there in the street with signs and i mean so no blm protest

01:11:18.520 no i stuff you were shaking your head what about you i've been to many protests and led protests

01:11:25.440 as well you've led uh how many hold on how many protests what is your goal uh when's okay how

01:11:32.200 recently have you participated in the protest when was the probably the no kings protest well

01:11:39.600 there's one just this weekend but okay then it was like a month ago it was like a it was like

01:11:44.680 last year okay you've said that you've participated you said that you've participated

01:11:52.180 in many protests going back to when ever since i was a kid like like your parents

01:12:01.800 forced you into that no no i was i've always been more active like i've always been more of an

01:12:09.560 activist than pretty much anyone in my family for what your family for what cause i have the same

01:12:14.800 question for the january 6th though what is the goal hold on hold on hold on we're exploring her

01:12:20.360 her thing now so um okay you what was the first protest you ever went to and that how young the

01:12:27.800 first protest i ever went to i believe was a women's march okay so was this like donald trump

01:12:34.500 no it was before that me too the women's march i yeah me too me too yeah me too we're women's

01:12:43.140 country yeah uh hold on that's secondary so right back to this um okay but did you participate in

01:12:50.500 blm protests yes ice protests yes um i'm trying to think uh march for our lives okay so like all

01:12:59.060 the george floyd stuff yes and you said not only did you participate but you also organized or led

01:13:05.740 yeah through high school what so when you say led what protests were you leading um there was

01:13:13.680 a protest um after there was a um am i allowed to say the word um after you

01:13:23.100 shoot okay after a shooting no no no not after not no um but there was um the parkland parkland

01:13:33.260 school so shooting yeah after the shooting um i led a protest against what like i led it for

01:13:43.840 gun laws so okay yeah stricter gun laws such as such as yeah well what what what gun laws did you

01:13:55.100 want yeah what did you want to just it to be a stricter system i don't necessarily believe that

01:14:01.360 that people don't have the right to bear arms i just here's a question should we um

01:14:08.000 should we ban uh semi-automatic rifles yes okay what is a semi-automatic rifle

01:14:15.920 we're sorry i shouldn't say should we buy excuse me i misspoke should we ban semi-automatic

01:14:21.920 firearms i think that any weapon that can fire like 20 bullets within like but

01:14:35.420 sem i'm asking specifically semi-automatic firearms i'm sorry what's a semi-automatic

01:14:42.720 you let a hold on you let a protest okay first of all i was a i was a kid during this time i've

01:14:50.300 I've done a lot of different protests.

01:14:52.180 So you were in high school at the time?

01:14:53.140 Mm-hmm.

01:14:54.160 Were you like a senior or junior?

01:14:57.120 O'Brien.

01:14:57.960 Mm.

01:14:59.620 So anyways, but okay, so would you like to see a ban on semi-automatic firearms?

01:15:08.840 Is that like an AR-15?

01:15:12.140 Yes, it would include AR-15s.

01:15:14.680 Yes, a weapon like that.

01:15:17.040 It would also include my 9mm.

01:15:19.140 Wait, so just to be clear, a scary-looking weapon.

01:15:22.020 I think, no, I think that, I don't know.

01:15:26.700 I don't believe, I have family members that do own guns for safety.

01:15:32.900 But, okay, so you do want to see semi-automatic firearms banned.

01:15:40.900 What is a semi-automatic firearm?

01:15:43.400 She doesn't know, Brian.

01:15:44.640 She's just against the thing.

01:15:46.060 She's just against the current thing.

01:15:47.300 I'm against what can happen.

01:15:49.980 I'm against what can happen.

01:15:51.280 How do you know what can happen if you don't know what it is?

01:15:53.020 Hold on, wait, wait, hold on.

01:15:54.260 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

01:15:57.500 Even people who are pro-Second Amendment, who are conceivably, hey, who probably want looser gun restrictions, are also against bad things that can happen.

01:16:08.220 Yeah.

01:16:08.820 But so it seems like you should have a basic understanding of firearms if you're going to do anti-firearm advocacy.

01:16:15.660 okay but to be fair i mean i haven't done any type of movement against firearms since i was

01:16:25.600 very okay since i was younger so i didn't know i it's true like i didn't know at the time but i

01:16:32.120 haven't done any research but at the time you led a protest and you didn't know what a semi-automatic

01:16:36.180 firearm is yeah but it was more it was more than just that it was more it was like there was more

01:16:43.480 of a reason that i was doing that okay so just to be yeah just to be clear um a semi-automatic

01:16:49.980 firearm so that would include an ar-15 yes it would also basically cover almost any pistol

01:16:56.840 right so semi-automatic means you pull the trigger one bullet comes out you pull it again another

01:17:03.100 bullet comes out okay so you can a big long gun like a ar-15 yes that is semi-automatic but also

01:17:11.080 So a little teeny concealed carry pistol that is also a semi-automatic firearm.

01:17:17.660 Okay.

01:17:18.320 So you would be wanting to essentially ban almost all firearms.

01:17:23.900 Okay.

01:17:24.340 So I think...

01:17:25.360 There's already laws against people owning automatic firearms.

01:17:29.120 Okay.

01:17:29.700 So that's probably more so what I'm talking about.

01:17:33.580 But that's been the case.

01:17:34.660 That's already banned.

01:17:35.860 Okay.

01:17:36.460 That's already...

01:17:36.860 So what specific gun restrictions...

01:17:39.960 Oh, no.

01:17:40.480 so my opinion is not really on type of gun restrictions as much i guess it's more so on

01:17:50.640 the people that are able to get the guns or just background checks in general most of these

01:17:56.720 shooters are typically especially like school shooters they're typically young with no criminal

01:18:00.980 history yeah i know it can be really easy to get a lot of times they don't buy it they take it from

01:18:05.300 someone else yeah yeah stricter gun laws will actually make it easier for criminals to get

01:18:12.800 that i can see your point a lot of people will be more unsafe than safe yeah i can see your point

01:18:18.260 on that um i don't know i just thinks it's like bad when people die and stuff you know

01:18:25.820 i like i do think it's bad it's like so sad i do find it we shouldn't march about it

01:18:30.800 yes exactly yes i mean it is bad but um what what are the solutions

01:18:38.460 marching just being unemployed holding no i i will say no i will say that in my opinion

01:18:48.320 i won't i won't say that this is always the case but i do have my own opinions about like

01:18:55.660 just regular peaceful protests about how much they actually do in terms but um but really quick

01:19:04.120 final thing on the firearm thing here really quick so i think even if you were to outright ban 0.87

01:19:10.220 firearm ownership entirely and you had police going door to door and fucking gestapo steal 0.90

01:19:17.560 taking the guns even if you did that in an effort to stop school shootings for example 0.57

01:19:22.300 once somebody like for example you'd agree that various hardcore drugs are completely criminalized

01:19:29.220 they're completely illegal people still manage to get their hands on them if you've made a 1.00

01:19:33.980 determination you're that mentally ill you're that dead set on being a piece of shit and murdering a 1.00

01:19:38.880 bunch of people in the school um you're prepared to you're prepared to to uh accept the crime of 1.00

01:19:45.800 uh, or take on being charged with the crime of murder, uh, mass murder, then you're prepared

01:19:53.140 to take on the charge of illegally obtaining a firearm. That's like, so, so they've already

01:19:59.000 made the determination. A lot of times they take themselves out too. So even if you were to pass a

01:20:05.580 law that says, well, this isn't, you can't own a firearm. They've already committed to doing

01:20:09.920 something illegal so they will illegally come into possession of a firearm so banning firearms

01:20:15.980 would not prevent these uh tragedies i don't think firearms are necessarily like the only

01:20:23.640 evil in the situation though like i think they're well like they're not the only like it's not

01:20:30.600 it's not the firearm killing people like i'm not obviously yes it's people so i so i do think that

01:20:38.780 i do think it's people so there's other things yeah do you know the group of people who's been

01:20:45.880 doing the most of that lately there was recently a school shooting where i live at a high school

01:20:51.900 in kind of a more rural area and one of my friend's moms is the like bus driver and drives 1.00

01:20:57.220 all the kids to school and the kid before it wasn't a school shooting but he shot someone

01:21:01.040 on school property before that happened she had said there were so many signs that he was going

01:21:05.660 to do something like that. And they tried to report it to, well, she tried to report it to

01:21:09.920 like the staff and administration and nothing was done. And that was the outcome. But I don't think

01:21:14.120 that had to do with the gun involved. I think that was poor, like people not helping in the

01:21:20.560 situation that they could. Here, before we come back to the protest stuff, we were doing, I just

01:21:28.220 want to finish up relationship status really quick. So single, I think, yeah, I asked you about

01:21:33.480 January 6th, I guess. What about you? I am engaged. I am getting married in 10 days.

01:21:40.440 Congratulations. He is a Navy veteran, and he owns an art gallery, and he is an avid Pokemon

01:21:48.160 collector and seller. All right. How long have you been together? It's going to be three years

01:21:52.140 in June. And longest relationship? Just under eight years. Got it. Married before? No. I haven't

01:21:59.660 okay no kids no okay what about you um i'm single i've been single for at least a year all right

01:22:08.360 longest relationship a little over a year a little over a year was that the one that ended a year ago

01:22:17.320 no okay all right uh and rachel what about you i've been with andrew for almost two decades now

01:22:25.940 been married a really long time that's my longest relation are you anxious i just realized that

01:22:32.420 okay yes that is rachel wilson in the flesh um okay going back to the protest thing uh what were

01:22:41.920 the other ones that you were like the leader or organizer of um i will i more so helped out with

01:22:48.920 some other women's marches that was like the main ones okay and you did like some blm i did yes

01:22:55.860 stuff or whatever okay i have a question yeah pro-life or pro-choice

01:23:00.720 pro-choice so babies don't count as okay

01:23:07.740 they're not babies though

01:23:11.040 they're not babies they're absolutely babies

01:23:15.160 they're not babies let's uh let's save the abortion 1.00

01:23:22.560 we can do it though but i i do want to finish off on some of the protest stuff so okay the blm

01:23:29.860 i want to know about marching for women's rights what rights are we marching for that we don't 0.51

01:23:34.160 have what rights are we missing exactly in this current day and age i mean i the last time i went

01:23:41.100 to a women's march was like a while ago so well so you don't believe in that no no i do okay so

01:23:49.260 what rights are we missing that we still need it's more so how we're treated in society okay

01:23:57.180 tell me about that i have something to add to that i remember i think it was 2016 when trump 0.99

01:24:01.640 said like grab her in the pussy or something like that that led to a woman's march because he was 1.00

01:24:05.960 going to be our president well really quick on that so even if you and i think those comments 1.00

01:24:11.320 even as somebody who uh voted for trump uh i disagree with those comments i think those

01:24:16.920 comments are in bad taste however how would this actually somebody saying 20 years ago in private

01:24:22.840 some private offensive comments as uh offensive as they may be how would this actually be evidence

01:24:29.180 of some sort of widespread uh you know discrimination that that women face and

01:24:35.940 warranting mass nationwide protests because i feel like a lot of people look up to our politicians

01:24:42.520 like a lot of people really worship trump so when he's saying stuff like that and he's treating

01:24:46.880 women like that, they're going to look at him and say, okay, 1.00

01:24:48.940 I can treat women like this. I can 1.00

01:24:50.680 talk to women like this. Didn't Trump 0.99

01:24:52.480 say, hey, you know. Wasn't Trump in the Epstein

01:24:54.920 files? No. How would that be relevant?

01:24:56.900 He absolutely was not. No, he wasn't.

01:24:59.080 Tell me. I don't see how that's relevant.

01:25:00.620 I'm going to. Come on.

01:25:02.400 You've got to let me. Listen, you just mentioned.

01:25:05.240 Okay, first let's go back to the 1.00

01:25:06.620 grabbing by the pussy. Are you saying that's not 1.00

01:25:08.600 simply a fact that there's

01:25:10.580 a ton of women, a ton 1.00

01:25:12.760 of women out there who will let any 1.00

01:25:14.720 rich, high-status man

01:25:16.460 do whatever they want i don't think they were letting him though no he said okay but it's not

01:25:23.120 about what he did it's about what he said and what he said is if you're super rich and famous 1.00

01:25:28.480 women will just let you grab them by the pussy yeah why why is that okay to say it's not why is 1.00

01:25:33.940 it true what's wrong about it tell me how it's wrong because if someone walked up to you walked 1.00

01:25:39.980 outside right now and someone walked up to you and said oh i'm gonna grab you by the pussy or 1.00

01:25:42.900 grabbed that is no you are equivocating that's not what i said that's not what he said what he said 1.00

01:25:48.620 was if you are a rich famous high status man a lot of women will just let you grab them right 1.00

01:25:55.140 by the pussy how's he wrong it's that mindset that's but how's he wrong that's what i'm saying 1.00

01:25:59.960 it's the mindset that is wrong that he is thinking it's not a mindset it's true why would tell me how 1.00

01:26:04.820 it's not why is that where you would take your mind tell me how it's not it's a fact of life

01:26:10.040 okay well wait what's a fact of life that if you that a lot of women will let any very rich famous 1.00

01:26:16.820 high status man grab them by the pussy that's a fact of society ever yes that's a fact the fact 0.99

01:26:22.520 is that women chase high status very wealthy men and and but that also generalizes all women 1.00

01:26:30.460 and that also he didn't say all women exactly my point he said exactly my point a lot of women a

01:26:36.820 of women how's he wrong you know it's a completely accurate factual statement you don't like it you

01:26:42.980 don't like how it makes you feel you don't like how it sounds it's icky fine but is it wrong i just

01:26:47.700 don't understand how you as a woman are okay with hearing our president saying stuff like that 0.92

01:26:55.060 because he said it in private it was locker room talk between guys that happened way before he was

01:27:00.500 president and i know for a fact he's correct there's a reason why groupies exist there's a

01:27:06.020 a reason why you see girls that come on this podcast there's a girl named chloe comes on all 1.00

01:27:09.920 the time throwing herself at soundcloud rappers trying to get their attention women throughout 1.00

01:27:15.560 all of human history tale as old as time have thrown themselves at rich high status men especially

01:27:22.140 if they're famous it's a it's just he's correct so no it doesn't offend me it's the truth and he

01:27:28.120 was pointing out more hold on uh we have a tts we have a tts coming through but we have something

01:27:34.880 interesting that i want to bring up the unknown soldier donated 200 thank you for the tts it

01:27:40.160 makes complete sense that chair three is a fin dom oh she's clinically arson and couldn't do an 1.00

01:27:46.080 actual job speaking of a man with her brain would be destitute and homeless is this my con or off

01:27:52.560 check check don't do that but um hey unknown soldier thank you man appreciate it well

01:27:59.520 Well, question for you.

01:28:01.620 Yes.

01:28:02.040 He did address you there.

01:28:05.100 Do you have an issue?

01:28:07.080 Because you were the one who went to the Women's March protest.

01:28:09.880 Do you have an issue with the statements that Donald Trump made?

01:28:14.640 Yes.

01:28:15.300 Okay.

01:28:15.780 And you do, I don't know if you said this in your intro, you do Fyndom.

01:28:18.880 Yes.

01:28:19.140 Did you say that in your intro?

01:28:19.680 I do, yes.

01:28:20.320 You do Fyndom. 0.81

01:28:20.820 And this includes, so you make money bullying men.

01:28:24.040 I do.

01:28:24.520 So there's a bit of confusion here.

01:28:27.840 perhaps it's a bit contradictory on one hand you have a criticism of donald trump saying something

01:28:33.480 in private but you publicly have some perhaps objectionable things that you say about men

01:28:40.700 yes and i have some tweets i'd like to pull up right now oh good guys what is

01:28:45.440 financial domination so if you guys don't know what fin dom is are the girls it's men who have

01:28:53.260 weird fetishes where they want to be

01:28:55.440 dominated. They want to give chicks 1.00

01:28:57.380 money. They're definitely mentally

01:28:59.480 ill. There's something wrong with them. 1.00

01:29:01.140 It is men who give 1.00

01:29:03.580 girls money and expect nothing 1.00

01:29:05.600 in return. It's to get humiliated.

01:29:07.800 But you also engage

01:29:09.460 in... Actually, well,

01:29:11.480 I have them in the notes, but first I want to show the

01:29:13.380 tweets. And so I want to hear

01:29:15.480 I guess from both of you, I just

01:29:17.580 want to make sure that we're consistent

01:29:19.100 in our application of

01:29:21.560 principles but if it's wrong to have these you know certain views then i want you both i guess

01:29:29.240 you have to admonish yourself and you're going to have to make a criticism of her go ahead pull the

01:29:33.960 first one up this one's not really that bad but oh my god hello scuffed already you scuffed it

01:29:39.100 already where's it scuffed that you you've gone f11 and obs please fix okay um so okay this is

01:29:47.540 this is just building a picture here this one's not that bad but you claim a simp bought you a car

01:29:53.020 yes okay so just to be clear that's just establishing something uh tab over to the

01:29:58.400 next one uh you said men don't deserve women okay so i guess that's because you date women i guess

01:30:06.460 yes okay well that's uh if men don't deserve women i assume that means you think that the

01:30:11.860 species should end no so i actually made that post because i was just like thinking about like how 0.99

01:30:19.120 pretty girls are so i was just okay yeah next please yeah i was just i just i just like shit 0.89

01:30:26.100 post on uh can you read these for us just read them out sure not in your brain i did i was trying 0.93

01:30:35.040 to make sure that was me because i have accounts that like pretend okay girls thought because it's

01:30:41.540 so true women will take your heart out crush it in front of you while smiling i can't resist them 1.00

01:30:46.540 however and i do not like men yay for me you don't like men no and you you mean in the general sense

01:30:53.620 like you don't like men not just for from a romantic perspective i don't i don't like most

01:31:02.460 men most men most men that i have personally met i do not like okay let me ask you some

01:31:11.140 questions here. Do you think men suck? Yes. Do you think men are trash? Sometimes. Do you hate 0.99

01:31:17.920 men? Sometimes. Sometimes. How often is sometimes? Most of the time. Most of the time. 99% of the

01:31:26.880 time. Yes. Okay. And you're not exaggerating. Like that's genuine. Yes. Okay. You genuinely

01:31:33.100 hate men. Okay. Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. A few more questions. If you could snap 0.90

01:31:40.720 your fingers and all men disappeared and let's say women this wouldn't be the end of the human 0.92

01:31:45.700 species let's say women could reproduce absent men do you take the trade yes oh so you want to 0.94

01:31:53.820 work on an oil rig hold on you want to go weld underwater and stuff no i didn't say that i

01:31:58.620 personally i'll do that dude i'll do it with you but like let's not get distracted let's not get

01:32:03.380 distracted here so uh what else uh uh so okay you snap your fingers all men disappeared

01:32:11.700 you you take that trade yes no no no no no no no don't walk it back

01:32:19.460 okay that's your position hold on hold on hold on uh do you think um 1.00

01:32:24.900 what else would be inculpatory here okay so you think men are trash you think men suck you hate 0.99

01:32:32.900 man that's probably good enough what's the closest relationship please pull it up uh and then read 0.99

01:32:40.420 this is that four yeah okay read it i love lying to men about what i'm spending the money on that

01:32:47.680 they're sending me just another way to mess with their brains okay now look really quick you're

01:32:52.120 smiling because there's a certain there's a certain i didn't even realize i was smiling that

01:32:57.500 was so not intentional but there's a certain uh what there's a term for this that is evading me

01:33:03.480 right now there's a certain joy or uh what's the term well like when when somebody is like

01:33:11.760 feeling a degree sadism maybe satisfaction in somebody else's suffering uh there is a certain

01:33:18.500 women reveling that some women do when men are painted in a bad way or men are aggressed upon

01:33:28.880 by women. I just think it's funny when people post like that on social media because I like, 0.72

01:33:33.700 it's just like, it wasn't even the content of it. But stick with that. So it's funny when women say 1.00

01:33:41.980 misandrous things about men publicly, which will have a tendency to influence

01:33:47.360 other women influence society but uh a uh surreptitiously record i guess it wasn't 1.00

01:33:55.420 surreptitious because he was probably hot mic or whatever a 20 year old uh private audio recording

01:34:01.500 between donald trump and this guy where he was just bantering with him and it was locker room talk

01:34:06.700 as objectionable as you might find it i'm sure your jaw was agape in disgust when you heard that 0.99

01:34:13.800 But you hear her, as I was looking at you, as she was saying that she thinks men are trash. 0.98

01:34:19.400 You're laughing now. 0.99

01:34:20.560 I have something to say.

01:34:21.660 I have something to say.

01:34:22.160 So, hold on. 1.00

01:34:23.560 As she was saying men are trash, men suck, she hates all men, and that she'd be fine with all men disappearing, which is genocide, I guess. 1.00

01:34:35.500 Bonkers. 1.00

01:34:36.680 You find this amusing. 0.98

01:34:38.080 So how can you possibly tell me that you have any principles as it relates to Donald Trump's statements, and here you have a full-blown admitted misandrist, genocidal maniac, essentially? 0.85

01:34:52.740 No.

01:34:53.460 Okay, I want her to correct me if I'm wrong, but for her job, these men are consenting to be treated like this, and it's part of her persona online to be aggressive towards men.

01:35:05.440 So the difference is consent in these situations.

01:35:07.540 Oh, wait. Wait a minute. Because Donald Trump was saying they let you grab them by the pussy. They let you. He wasn't saying you do it against their will and you grape them. He said, hey, look, when you're rich and famous, these women will just let you do it. They consent.

01:35:24.300 How do you know the women aren't scared? How do you know the men she's talking to are mentally ill? How do you know they're not mentally ill? That's a completely different argument. 0.97

01:35:32.240 wait Rachel that's a fantastic point by the way

01:35:34.380 that's the consent argument

01:35:36.180 fantastic I'm sensing

01:35:38.060 something here and I don't know if I want to

01:35:40.240 say it yet or if I want to wait

01:35:41.820 say it

01:35:42.820 I think that the reason you're so gleeful

01:35:46.160 about her hatred of men is that

01:35:48.360 you're not very successful with men

01:35:50.120 no I

01:35:51.260 or at least not the men you want

01:35:54.340 no I have never had a

01:35:56.260 problem getting with men

01:35:57.660 I have had a problem with men wanting to be 1.00

01:36:00.200 with me in a relationship long term

01:36:02.120 okay no they want to be in a relationship i don't want to be in a relationship but are they

01:36:06.300 are you one of the girls who's aiming at the guys who are like a eight nine ten and then they sleep 1.00

01:36:11.220 with you but they don't want a commitment but then the guys who are more on your level do want

01:36:15.340 a commitment you think they're icky and they're not i also don't just sleep around i don't just

01:36:19.420 go out and just take someone new home every single night like if i like someone i'll sleep

01:36:23.560 with them where does your hatred of men come from because i sure her name's goddess raven so i

01:36:28.340 already kind of know where that comes from but i have zero hatred towards men i don't think as like

01:36:33.680 i don't think men are bad people at all i don't think you can generalize why do you think it's

01:36:37.900 so funny to humiliate men but when trump says hey a lot of chicks like you know rich famous dudes 1.00

01:36:44.860 they'll just let you grab them by the pussy why is that so offensive you realize that's cognitive 1.00

01:36:49.320 dissonance it makes no sense like i said consent this is her persona this is how she makes money 1.00

01:36:54.000 She's making money by these men. 1.00

01:36:55.540 Can mentally ill men consent? 1.00

01:36:57.500 Can a mentally ill woman consent to being grabbed by the pussy? 1.00

01:37:00.000 What do you think? 1.00

01:37:00.880 No.

01:37:02.060 Why are you assuming that they're mentally ill? 0.89

01:37:04.280 Not all of these men are mentally ill. 0.86

01:37:07.380 If I could play devil's advocate. 0.99

01:37:10.000 And definitely not all the women who are groupies chasing after rock stars are mentally ill. 1.00

01:37:14.540 They're just pussy bimbos who want a rich, famous dude. 1.00

01:37:19.320 Also, really quick. 0.99

01:37:20.060 I think it's worth pointing out.

01:37:21.680 she's on the podcast right now

01:37:25.160 and so you might be able to

01:37:26.980 raise this defense as it

01:37:29.020 relates to her Fyndom

01:37:30.360 but she's not in Fyndom

01:37:33.080 mode. She made a

01:37:34.960 genuine admission 0.99

01:37:36.680 of thinking men are trash, 1.00

01:37:39.000 men suck, she hates men 1.00

01:37:40.900 and she honestly 1.00

01:37:42.640 she would not nuke them.

01:37:45.100 What if they're watching the podcast?

01:37:46.740 That's my argument. In either way, the men that are

01:37:48.980 paying her know that that is her money.

01:37:50.720 even if that is truly her mindset i think everyone's entitled to their own opinion like

01:37:54.260 why would you say wait wait so are men entitled to misogynistic opinions if they want as long as

01:37:58.900 they don't act on their opinions they can think whatever they want but if they're going trump

01:38:01.960 just was talking no but he there's epstein files i you guys say he's not in there nothing you tell

01:38:08.120 me tell me this because i've asked this question and andrew's asked this question not one of you

01:38:12.320 tiktok brain liberals ever has an answer for it where in the epstein files does it say that

01:38:16.900 donald trump did anything to anyone the fact that no one was on epstein's island just to hang out

01:38:21.840 like they weren't he wasn't even on the island you don't you don't know that you heard here's 0.98

01:38:27.140 what happened here's what happened tiktok brain girl who needs to really like get her shit together 1.00

01:38:32.460 you heard some people say that you said i don't like him so that must be true and i'm going to 1.00

01:38:38.720 repeat it as if it's a fact and you shouldn't do that that's bullshit it's not just trump too 0.84

01:38:42.640 you don't have any evidence okay give me some evidence that donald trump did anything to any 1.00

01:38:48.600 underage people go ahead i don't have any evidence of that exactly so shut up shut up 0.99

01:38:53.880 just stop just stop we don't care about your faux outrage at this point anyway because you get all 0.99

01:39:00.020 upset about donald trump making a locker room joke but when she's sitting here saying this

01:39:03.660 stuff about men you're giggling you think it's so funny you're like was she on an island with

01:39:07.860 underage kids that Trump was never on you don't know that he was there and you don't know there

01:39:13.500 were underage kids there are people in the files because they were just named in an email of

01:39:19.900 something that had nothing to do with anything you don't even know what you're talking about

01:39:24.600 I feel like I saw something I feel like I saw something I feel like I heard someone say you 0.99

01:39:28.860 don't know what you're talking about shut up shut up stop talking if you don't because you don't 1.00

01:39:34.200 know what you're talking about you're ignorant have you you're just talking out of your ass i am 1.00

01:39:38.800 talking about yeah so shut up however just shut up he was there shut up you don't know anything 1.00

01:39:43.380 shut up i don't understand this accusation that if somebody so epstein files encompass like for 0.99

01:39:49.140 example he were he uh i i believe received an email from blizzard customer service because he 0.80

01:39:56.660 was enrolled to play world of warcraft so does everyone who ever played world of warcraft do

01:40:02.460 Do they have some sort of connection to Jeffrey Epstein because Blizzard technical support sent him an email?

01:40:09.400 There are thousands of people in the files who were completely unrelated to Epstein. 0.99

01:40:17.400 This is what you stupid liberals need to shut your mouths about because you're talking about stuff and damaging people's reputations. 0.99

01:40:23.600 This is why they had to redact so much information because dummies like you are going to go, ooh, their name's in the files. 1.00

01:40:29.420 Oh, my gosh, that means they're a PDF.

01:40:31.680 No.

01:40:32.120 that is not how that works it's it's thousands upon thousands of emails with thousands upon

01:40:38.040 thousands of people's names in there that does not mean that they were all pdfs on an island

01:40:41.700 doing god knows what 100 because michael jackson was there rescuing kids justin bieber was there

01:40:47.560 against his will as a kid the writer of the simpsons was there for intel so like i think

01:40:52.640 your intention for protect the kids i'm with you on that a hundred percent now when people were

01:40:58.080 making these accusations about trump even though i am a supporter if there's an accusation i'm like

01:41:02.600 okay where are the facts i found pictures of a little girl with a blacked out square and then

01:41:07.640 i was like oh metadata remove that oh it's his daughter you weirdos okay next and then i'd keep

01:41:11.980 looking and then i was like oh you know he did have a moral slip up hold on but i'm not really

01:41:16.440 interesting in like diving deep into the files sorry that's not material to the conversation

01:41:22.460 really um in any case nobody knows anything about it yet anyway everybody's just playing

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01:47:34.340 So I guess I wanted to finish off a bit on the protest stuff.

01:47:40.200 Yeah.

01:47:40.840 Still want to hear what women's rights were lacking. 1.00

01:47:43.280 Yeah, that's a good one.

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01:47:48.140 What was it?

01:47:50.000 How we were saying that it's just the way that women are, like, it's accepted for them to be talked about and treated in society is not fair.

01:47:56.120 i don't think it was about like rights as much as it was the conversation and the verbiage and

01:48:00.360 stuff that's being used by these politicians people around women but a lot of people use 0.96

01:48:04.800 that same verbiage about men so sabrina carpenter at her concert with thousands and thousands of 1.00

01:48:10.120 people telling the the crowd to cheer along with her and call men useless stupid you know that 0.98

01:48:17.480 whole thing that's okay i think that is so different than like being okay with like i feel 0.98

01:48:23.360 Like, women are, let me think of my words, like, when men are talking about, like, sexually assaulting women or, like, objectifying their bodies and stuff like that, I don't think that's a fair way to talk. 0.99

01:48:33.400 But if they wanted to go and say, like, women suck, I hate women, that's one thing. 1.00

01:48:36.960 But when it becomes something that could turn into a physical component, I think that's where, like, the line is going. 0.99

01:48:41.540 Why is the premise, though, that this is within the context of non-consent?

01:48:46.300 Because that's what I thought, that at least I don't know much about any of the protests, but at least back in 2016 when there was that women's march.

01:48:52.920 i thought that was because of trump saying really quick i have something on me on this um nathan

01:48:58.560 can you pull up my my personal instagram brian atlas and then there's a post that i did i think

01:49:04.060 it's like either the most recent or the one below it it's a woman wearing a t-shirt lily reinhardt

01:49:10.380 she has 24 million followers on instagram she's like a b-tier c-tier actress um do you have it

01:49:18.200 nathan my ex my personal ex uh it should be if you just scroll down it should be like the most

01:49:26.660 recent or second most recent post um i just want to get your guys's perspective on that so click

01:49:32.240 click on the photo actually uh so she has a shirt that says i support a man's right to shut the 1.00

01:49:38.660 fuck up and then i wrote if a male actor wore a shirt like this about women he'd be dropped by his 0.91

01:49:43.480 agency talent agency and banished from hollywood not to mention backlash from the public journalists 1.00

01:49:50.360 media etc she's got 24 million followers on instagram she's not a nobody yeah um so what

01:49:56.940 do you think of her t-shirt first of all is that wrong i i don't think it's wrong i do agree that's

01:50:02.060 like if a man wore that you sorry you don't i don't i think everyone is entitled to their own

01:50:06.060 opinion she can think whatever she wants but when girls do it it's cute but when boys do it it's 0.95

01:50:10.160 great see that is what other people if a man wore that shirt i'd be like damn that's kind of crazy

01:50:14.540 but like society would probably be a lot more upset about that but me personally i'm not going

01:50:19.380 to see a man wearing that shirt and throw an outrage about it so what is it that men are doing

01:50:23.600 to women that you think requires marching i've never i've never marched but okay what are you

01:50:29.360 what do you think men are doing to us that requires us marching in the streets i feel

01:50:33.800 like there's too many things to even name i mean one okay list okay there's okay comments about

01:50:43.320 women 24 7 but women make comments about men 24 7 okay i would say then here s a well let's list

01:50:53.100 it so okay mean so like misogynistic comments yes okay so they're s a yes okay what else

01:51:01.840 just feel like not just sexist comments but sexual comments like very derogatory

01:51:14.880 okay just like overly derogatory women do that too like a woman's very capable of essaying a man 1.00

01:51:23.540 the same way a man can do that to a woman i also best believe i've dealt with essay by 0.83

01:51:29.000 looking man walk by. Wait, wait, wait. Let her finish. Let her finish. Go ahead. But you think

01:51:32.740 women don't cackle either? I hang out with my girlfriends and I see a good looking guy. I'm

01:51:37.080 like, look at, you know what I mean? Yeah. So girls do it too. Maybe men are more open and more

01:51:44.600 doggis if, if you want to say that. And I can't agree to that, but everything you're stating

01:51:50.240 goes both ways. It sounds like policing speech is what I hear. I do agree that it goes both ways.

01:51:57.120 i think there's just major differences i think that men do it a lot more and or is it just not

01:52:04.080 as reported no men i but even in experiences men don't speak up often they don't speak up

01:52:10.820 men are not going to go and report it if a woman if a woman gives a man like a shoulder rub he 1.00

01:52:16.120 didn't ask for he's not going to go to hr and report i don't i don't believe in that either

01:52:20.060 i do not think that i do not think that a man should be touched in a way that he does not want

01:52:25.620 to be touched i do i do not think that consent goes both ways i completely agree with that

01:52:33.380 have you guys ever seen the there's like a video compilation that's always circulating online

01:52:38.740 of justin bieber when he was young like before he turned 18 all the different actresses and people

01:52:44.680 touching him making sexual comments about him yeah like it happens quite a bit to men too and

01:52:50.660 we just give women a pass on it well and it depends actually really interesting about that

01:52:54.740 rachel is that while they're you know and many of these clips have kind of resurfaced more recently

01:53:00.780 in the moment there was absolute pretty much no backlash but um if you reverse the genders if you 0.98

01:53:07.140 do a gender swap i mean these people if it was a man doing that to a young a girl oh my gosh

01:53:13.480 the career over but there's really not when you gender swap these situations there's not the

01:53:20.760 outrage there's not the losing the job there's not the getting dropped dropped from talent agency

01:53:26.820 thing it's like acceptable to be anti-male or say uh negative things about men etc etc so

01:53:34.220 well and you were saying no you can talk um so in your hr example with somebody in the shoulder rub

01:53:39.980 depends on if she thinks he's attractive or not if if if a woman if a woman that is creeped out 0.97

01:53:46.600 by a guy because he's gross or a loser 0.84

01:53:48.520 or unattractive to her, she's 1.00

01:53:50.480 going to be like, oh, sexual 0.51

01:53:52.420 harassment. But if it's somebody

01:53:54.500 that she's like, oh, let's go on a date, you know.

01:53:56.460 Give me more of that. Yeah, if it's the boss and he's rich and hot, 0.99

01:53:58.580 she might let him grab her by the pussy 1.00

01:54:00.380 even. Oh, really quick, we do 1.00

01:54:02.500 have a TTS coming in here. Let me just let this 0.98

01:54:04.460 through from Cha. One moment

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01:54:15.260 The fact that a girl who 0.83

01:54:16.360 does find them as a job while talking about how she participates in protests is a vile irony 0.95

01:54:21.640 you're a monster and you're preying on vulnerable men who desperately need help

01:54:26.540 quick you have a response to that and then we have one more chat coming in how did they know 0.99

01:54:32.760 he needs help like why are they just assuming that's not normal but it is for some people

01:54:38.060 it's an addiction it is like gambling or it's like addictive drinking it's a drug

01:54:44.520 that is true she's enabling it if a man was enabling that kind of so if a man had a girlfriend 1.00

01:54:52.940 who was a little not all there upstairs right she has some mental problems and he's you know

01:54:59.040 telling her to pretend to be a dog and sleep in a dog bed at the end of the bed and uh telling her

01:55:04.240 she's a coat rack and hanging her coats on him and or his coats on her and things like that

01:55:08.840 you'd be outraged you'd say he's abusing her that's that's awful i wouldn't say that i would

01:55:13.540 if i think as long as it's two consenting adults i don't think it i don't think it's any different

01:55:18.900 i think someone's mental health if they like obviously if they have a mental health issue

01:55:23.000 family around them is going to know they're going to try getting them help that's not

01:55:25.520 if women consent to being treated badly by a man that's fine if they're saying if they're sitting 0.99

01:55:32.360 like bdsm if a woman's sitting there saying i want you to like smack shit i mean while we're 1.00

01:55:36.360 having sex that is consent and that's fine i don't have i don't think there's any issue with 0.99

01:55:40.540 that as long as people have kinks people have kinks yeah but are there ever instances where

01:55:47.460 even if consent exists does it go beyond consent these people that are in these relationships like

01:55:54.440 that that have like fin dom relationships or anything like that there they have safe words

01:55:58.640 like there there's a lot of communication i i've never been in one don't never known anyone in one

01:56:03.320 but from my understanding is there is consent and many conversations and safe words and it's just

01:56:09.740 like i'd like to speak on that because i actually did fin dom for like three months and um i don't

01:56:16.000 know your experience but in my experience it felt that i had to really discern things and i ended up

01:56:22.340 leaving because in every experience it became unethical and there were like men who would

01:56:29.600 hey i'm gonna give you my kids graduation money and other women online would accept that and think 1.00

01:56:36.540 well that's my job and that's okay but that's the responsibility of you as the business owner like

01:56:41.580 if if you go like a lot of people don't like mcdonald's because of how mcdonald's what they

01:56:46.900 put in their food and all that so in that same way right it is up to that business owner like

01:56:52.440 you wouldn't go to mcdonald's if you didn't think that their policies are great you wouldn't go

01:56:56.640 there right and um they are feeding off sick people might i ask that you you raise a good

01:57:02.540 point. Uh, might I ask the, I guess the question was, does anything go beyond consent? So for

01:57:08.520 example, even within the purview of BDSM, are there some acts that you feel like even if you

01:57:14.260 give consent and even if you are of sound mind that that's too far? Like for example, sometimes

01:57:20.920 there's, uh, uh, instances where, you know, you, you'd agree that BDSM typically will involve,

01:57:28.840 can involve physical pain. Now, what about, what about this, uh, scar, scars, something that will

01:57:36.600 leave a scar? Can you consent to that? I think if you're an, if you're a child now, but if you're

01:57:40.540 an adult and yes, we're talking about adults, but so how far does that go though? So what if, okay,

01:57:51.140 a scar maybe not so bad um what about um breaking a pinky bone can you consent to that that that

01:58:00.380 wouldn't it would heal i've never i've never thought of that really but let's say a woman 0.97

01:58:04.760 did have a kink where she wants just her pinky bone to be broken can she consent to that i mean 1.00

01:58:12.340 i don't i guess i don't really know but i think so i think how about but let's how how far can we

01:58:18.280 go. The whole hand smashed with a hammer. Now, maybe it could cause permanent damage,

01:58:27.400 maybe not, but can she consent to it? I think, I mean, like I said, never been in a relationship

01:58:33.300 like that, never really put much mind to BDS in a relationship, but I think if something

01:58:36.900 is being done that could possibly cause irreparable damage, then that's where the line should be

01:58:41.680 drawn. Well, what about a scar, though? But some people want to be cut, for example.

01:58:45.940 That's not going to mess up their life if they have a scar on them.

01:58:49.940 If their hand's broken and they can't use their hand anymore, then that's going to mess up their life.

01:58:53.400 Well, if she drains their wallets to the point where they have to go through bankruptcy proceedings, 1.00

01:59:00.160 that could have longstanding financial consequences to them.

01:59:04.620 I'm asking her, has that ever happened?

01:59:06.940 She probably has that on her page. 0.97

01:59:10.180 I know, but do you know of any scenarios where someone has gone into bankruptcy or has gone into something like that?

01:59:14.840 That's part of the kink.

01:59:15.340 what was the example you gave where it was like they want to give the graduation money from their

01:59:20.460 kids these men will go to the like it's an addiction they will do absolutely everything

01:59:25.080 and they won't they some guys won't even eat oh i'll just send you like my lunch dinner money

01:59:29.840 and i'm sure like you've had that and that i feel like is your responsibility to see like you need

01:59:36.500 help like if somebody was gonna you know you brought up the example of physical pain like

01:59:41.120 if somebody was like hey i'm gonna or i'm i'm willing to be cut can you like cut me or break

01:59:45.500 my pinky bone i'd be like let's send you to the doctor let's talk about let's dive deeper into

01:59:50.100 that i have definitely denied requests um and also i've definitely ignored a lot of messages

02:00:00.600 i do have to let this chat come through but we'll come right back to it we have desert

02:00:03.920 Jorge. Thank you, Desert Jorge.

02:00:07.040 Okay, let's cut through the nonsense.

02:00:10.120 When a man does something bad, it's all men are bad. 0.98

02:00:13.880 When a woman does something bad, it's woman empowerment and all good. 1.00

02:00:18.540 This is actual hypocrisy on display.

02:00:20.980 Yeah, and Rachel brought up something, Desert Jorge, thank you for that.

02:00:25.320 With Sabrina Carpenter, Rachel brought up that as a really good topic

02:00:30.920 because it goes beyond just at the concert.

02:00:33.180 she's got that what's the title of the song man man child so yeah she is uh alluding to men being 0.99

02:00:39.380 stupid and useless and all this sort of thing but even going a little bit deeper um in many of her 0.98

02:00:44.860 music videos not just that video she uh like physically assaults and even kills men and it 1.00

02:00:51.280 is like getting to a deeper level of analysis where it's like she is she is kind of uh i think

02:00:58.300 there's a bit more depth there in terms of the misandrist messaging it dehumanizes men what about

02:01:04.320 on a very large scale to young girls who are really impressionable yeah well also we'll get

02:01:09.600 to that but really quick with sabrina carpenter sabrina carpenter also and an award ceremony

02:01:14.060 because i think look you're going to bring up rap and i think in the artistic expression itself

02:01:19.300 i don't think you can you can still make a criticism but there's more leeway but she's 0.50

02:01:24.560 doing well hold on well i i think it's fair for both in both directions that in artistic expression

02:01:30.720 there's a bit more leeway given than like but she was giving a speech and in the award ceremony

02:01:36.500 and she said that the the key essentially i'm i'm uh not verbatim here uh the key to writing a hit 0.96

02:01:44.680 song is uh you should call all men stupid in your song that's basically what she said right 1.00

02:01:51.000 well she she did in fact say that but there's some surrounding context that's relevant and it's like 0.98

02:01:56.400 that's going a little further into like anti-male sentiment but um i'm just begging all the men on

02:02:02.500 sabrina carpenter's tour who handle her stage her lights her audio all of you men that put together

02:02:08.400 her whole show when she starts doing that song just shut it all down there you just shut it all 0.99

02:02:13.000 off and go what now what all the men are useless and stupid or would you like us to turn your 0.99

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02:03:17.820 Look at that.

02:03:18.380 Hey, just really quick.

02:03:19.280 Who here would date Cowboy Larry?

02:03:21.340 That's his avatar.

02:03:24.060 I'm trying to wingman this guy.

02:03:25.720 He's super nice, you guys.

02:03:27.500 If he's nice, then yeah.

02:03:30.220 All right.

02:03:30.660 Well, hey.

02:03:31.280 I tried my best.

02:03:32.520 So I can't say anything.

02:03:33.460 Yeah, of course.

02:03:34.220 Well, to the single women. 0.99

02:03:35.120 He seems cool, though.

02:03:36.560 The single women. 0.99

02:03:37.540 But thank you, Cowboy.

02:03:37.980 And he's a big fan.

02:03:39.320 There you go.

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02:03:46.620 rights women's rights I think

02:03:49.460 that's where we left off

02:03:51.360 so it's more just we don't like

02:03:53.400 things that random dudes

02:03:55.520 say about random women 0.99

02:03:56.740 do we have anything more than that

02:03:59.180 because that seems like a very

02:04:00.380 something I would add to that is I feel like women 1.00

02:04:03.100 also will put themselves into a position

02:04:05.480 to seem like less than than men 0.99

02:04:07.520 like there was a trend going around fairly recently

02:04:09.360 that was like when I do good in the blue store

02:04:11.540 so I get to go to the pink store like women 1.00

02:04:13.220 will intentionally make themselves look stupid in order to like appear cute to a man sometimes 0.99

02:04:18.680 and i don't feel like that's a like that's women taking ourselves back further in society so it's 0.98

02:04:23.840 not all just men i feel like there's like um like there's that streamer cavicular or whatever and

02:04:28.760 he just always has women surrounding him and like people are like oh like he shouldn't be treating

02:04:32.500 the woman that way but it's also i feel like just as much on the women that are there and

02:04:35.820 entertaining him that like they're sitting there doing the same thing so would that apply to

02:04:41.360 president trump's comment that these women should they're they're putting themselves in the position 1.00

02:04:46.640 where they're letting that happen they enthusiastically chase dudes who will why is it

02:04:51.360 different because it's trump no it's different that is assault because it's assault women are 1.00

02:04:56.680 letting them you said how do you you said it's based on consent yeah how do how is it unless

02:05:03.940 because the language he used is they will let you so if he had said they don't want you to but you

02:05:11.780 can do it anyway you might have a point but we can only go off what he said we can't speculate about

02:05:16.860 anything else all we can do is take the statement itself at face value and discuss that you can't

02:05:22.880 like leap to other things that you think might have been going on but you really don't know it's

02:05:26.240 like but okay so i your comments fair i'm still trying to figure out what what unfair treatment

02:05:33.780 or you want to talk about women's rights go to a different country yeah what's worth getting in 0.99

02:05:38.780 the street and marching and protesting about like what are we lacking i'm i just trying to figure

02:05:44.400 that out i feel like women like are putting themselves into a position where they let me 1.00

02:05:51.540 let me think let me think let me think okay raven you're a protest organizer so i and you seem like

02:05:57.140 you've if you're organizing protests you might have must have thought about these issues to some

02:06:01.340 degree so like what do you think is still going on in the world that women need to be out marching 1.00

02:06:06.160 about it i really think it's just how women are treated i think it's the way by who but everyone

02:06:12.880 everyone yes and i do i do agree that there are women who also do make that worse by making 1.00

02:06:19.480 themselves like uh yeah I've saw okay but I don't understand men can and do all the time get in

02:06:29.040 trouble for saying anything to a woman at work that is off color uh for saying anything online

02:06:35.100 to a woman that's bad like men get in trouble for that all the time you don't have a problem 1.00

02:06:40.520 with women talking about men like that what's the difference women aren't act like like you guys had

02:06:45.920 said that men may not be coming forward about their sexual assault or something like that but

02:06:49.440 following what i assume most of you believe that men are physically stronger than women

02:06:53.120 if a woman comes on to a man and tries to sexually assault him what's stopping him from just like

02:06:57.980 pushing her off what if it's a child well we're not going to talk about children we're always

02:07:04.540 talking about adult relationships on the show but okay let me throw a statistic at you did you guys

02:07:09.140 know that in all if you take all the uh domestic violence cases that are non-reciprocal meaning

02:07:15.960 it's one party being aggressive and the other party is being the victim that the aggressor is

02:07:21.740 the woman 70 percent of the time i still think are you aware of that i did not know that yeah

02:07:28.320 what do we do about that should the men march and demand that the women stop assaulting them 0.99

02:07:34.980 men could always march if they wanted to i think everyone has a right to believe whatever they want

02:07:39.740 you can believe whatever you want but there's also facts so like if if 70 percent of non-reciprocally

02:07:45.880 violent domestic violence cases are the woman aggressing against the man like uh taylor frankie 1.00

02:07:52.500 paul that's her name right the bachelorette that they just canceled her whole season because this 1.00

02:07:57.160 video came out of her just attacking her ex-husband throwing chairs at him even with her 0.89

02:08:02.260 daughter in the room acting totally unhinged i i'm seeing a lot of that and statistically

02:08:08.080 it's that 70 of the time how many men are murderers though like looking at that's another

02:08:14.680 a good question but did you know that almost all the victims of the murder are men no that is so

02:08:19.700 true it's absolutely true think about like ted bundt like they they those men there's like so

02:08:24.520 many prolific there's very few of those though so if you take all murders if you take all murders

02:08:30.240 yes men are the most offenders when it comes to murder but they're also the highest uh share of

02:08:35.460 victims why does it matter men kill other men because we're talking about the difference what

02:08:40.200 do women need to march over so if if men were the primary murderers and 90 percent of their victims 1.00

02:08:45.800 were women you'd have something but it's something like 90 percent of the victims are men so i just

02:08:51.120 think everyone has the right to think what they want and if they want sure yes and if they want

02:08:54.700 to go if they want to go out on the street and protest and walk about it and show their support

02:08:59.220 and have a group of people showing that that's i mean yeah you can't you can go march in the street

02:09:03.620 and say i think rice krispies are better than cocoa puffs that is fine but i'm asking you guys

02:09:09.760 I said, well, what do you mean, what's the issue with that? 0.89

02:09:11.360 It's retarded to start with. 1.00

02:09:13.680 It's dumb. 1.00

02:09:14.700 So I'm trying to see why do I care? 0.99

02:09:17.800 Because I want to know where all of your political outrage is coming from.

02:09:22.260 I want to know where all your outrage against men is coming from.

02:09:24.820 We've told you like three times.

02:09:25.500 But I've proved to you that there's no water.

02:09:30.000 Your statements don't carry any water.

02:09:32.040 This delusion you have that men are constantly trying to victimize you and be bad to you

02:09:36.560 is a figment of your imagination.

02:09:38.880 it doesn't really exist there's also a vast difference between them no it's there are do

02:09:44.400 you agree that there are objective facts yes okay it's an objective fact that you have every right

02:09:51.700 in this country legally that a man does and probably more and it's an objective fact that 0.91

02:09:56.780 you're not at least i know of any victim of some kind of overarching oppression by the patriarchy

02:10:03.720 correct? Or are you? And if you are, I want to know specifically what that is. I just think

02:10:10.080 some men somewhere say mean things about some women sometimes. It's more societal than it is

02:10:15.020 political, I would say. I would say as a society, women are treated differently. See, I think as a 0.99

02:10:20.500 society, women are very privileged over men. I think we're privileged, but I don't think we're

02:10:24.560 privileged over men. I feel like a woman should feel safe walking home at night alone. And I

02:10:30.560 don't feel like that's always the case like if you're in a city or something and a woman's trying

02:10:34.580 to walk alone at night i guarantee you she either has pepper spray or something like that a man 1.00

02:10:39.100 walking alone at night in the city always feels safe probably not but i think exactly a man's

02:10:44.580 probably worried about being beat up a woman's worried about being raped tortured kidnapped 0.69

02:10:48.940 and that's saying that can't happen to a man but i am saying it's more likely to happen to a woman 0.98

02:10:52.980 did you also know that if you factor in prison rape men are actually a higher share of rape 0.86

02:10:57.960 victims and women are such a different that's not like they're not in i'm just saying there's a

02:11:01.800 reason that the world is not fair and bad things happen what i'm looking for is actual evidence

02:11:06.900 that women are somehow uniquely oppressed as a group by men i feel like the only reason i have 1.00

02:11:12.260 and if you start your statement with i feel like that's by definition not going to be factual that's

02:11:17.800 going to be just opinion the only reason i have my opinion about the way women are being treated is 1.00

02:11:21.800 because how i've been treated and how i've seen my friends be treated i'm i don't know but that's

02:11:26.060 anecdote that's not proof that society has a problem okay but the thing is if all of these

02:11:33.480 women are coming together to say hey i've personally dealt with these issues with men

02:11:39.100 i've felt i've i've gotten s-aid by men i've had this happen i've been uncomfortable like all of

02:11:45.440 these things if there's tons of women coming together then that kind of there's a message 1.00

02:11:51.360 there oh okay well if that's the case then what if a bunch of trump supporters come together on

02:11:58.020 january 6 and say we really feel like this election wasn't fair i mean it has to be proof

02:12:03.780 that it's true because a whole bunch of people came together black people stormed the capitol

02:12:08.580 they would have all been killed yeah they would have all been killed is that why nobody that is 0.98

02:12:13.720 once again that is once again you making a totally insane completely baseless assertion that you

02:12:20.060 pulled out of thin air please listen i'm gonna try to be nice but i need you to focus and not 0.96

02:12:25.840 just say like wildly crazy totally baseless shit i need you to try to live in reality and like 0.62

02:12:31.240 come come back to something that's true for any of the people on jit i don't i don't know much 0.99

02:12:35.460 black people were allowed to riot in the streets and burn down entire cities for a whole summer 1.00

02:12:40.380 and nobody went around that was a mowing them down that was a government building that they 0.97

02:12:44.320 broke into and i like i said i don't pay that much they have surrounded federal bill yeah you

02:12:49.040 don't because you would know they've surrounded federal buildings they have they have surrounded

02:12:54.640 federal buildings they have infiltrated federal buildings they have where where portland seattle

02:13:01.020 my husband covers these all the time on his channel where did they of leftist protesters

02:13:04.820 breaking into buildings like the ice protest yes right now they're right now are they in the

02:13:11.920 buildings in portland they broke in the cops had to actually like shelter and leave because they

02:13:16.820 broke into the building yes i just what do you mean you don't know do you think i made that up

02:13:22.700 do i not seem like pretty well informed on my facts you do but you could also just be really

02:13:26.340 confident in what you're saying so i haven't seen any personal evidence but i'm trying to look it

02:13:31.100 up if you'd like but there's been several they set up an autonomous zone in two different cities

02:13:36.680 and took over multiple city blocks and nobody killed them nothing happened to them and you

02:13:42.180 probably think that's fine so again please let's get back to this show me any evidence of widespread

02:13:48.480 oppression of women by men other than I just feel like women just feel unsafe okay you feeling

02:13:54.800 unsafe isn't proof of anything I'm going you might feel unsafe and be perfectly safe I look at I can't

02:14:02.360 do anything about your emotional I look at what I've gone through and what my friends have gone

02:14:05.900 through and stuff that men have done to them and I just think of like that can't and it happens

02:14:10.960 everyone that's why like those protests those people that are out at those protests most likely

02:14:14.400 have had something happen to them and i feel like that gathering of people show something but that's

02:14:18.060 anecdotal and there's how many men do you think out there could talk about their experiences with

02:14:23.400 women getting baby trapped by women getting their kids taken and stolen from them in family court

02:14:28.440 when they didn't do anything wrong a woman cheating on them and leaving and taking the kids 1.00

02:14:32.100 a woman draining the bank account and taking off and leaving women actually assaulting them and

02:14:38.240 being domestic abusers and they can't even get police or anybody to really take them seriously

02:14:42.600 why aren't they just stopping them and because what i'll tell you why what do you think happens

02:14:48.660 if a what do you think the risk is for a man if there's a woman that he lives with and she's

02:14:55.280 getting drunk and throwing things at him and coming at him with sharp objects and things

02:14:59.620 day after day and he finally in order to protect himself i know a guy that this happened to a woman

02:15:06.100 drunk woman coming at him with a chunk of glass and finally he threw her off of him she went to 1.00

02:15:11.840 the police and said he he threw me against the wall i have a bruise he beat me up the guy went

02:15:17.060 to jail i would just love to see a statistic that says women are more prone didn't you say that 70 1.00

02:15:21.960 percent of the cases are domesticated i would love to see that my father was stabbed by a woman and 1.00

02:15:26.160 almost died well we can have brian pull it up again i mean if you listen i do this for a living

02:15:31.400 i don't say these things unless i know exactly where to pull the data from i posted it to my

02:15:36.320 ex so if brian wants to pull up my ex um and fbi statistics uh these are very easy things to look

02:15:43.900 up but yes it's yeah this is that's the way this is the way the world is as like crappy as as

02:15:53.060 shitty as that sounds the world is the way that it is i don't think that you have every right to

02:15:58.340 do what you want but i don't think protesting is going to change anything i don't think that

02:16:02.020 changing uh here we have the data oh word just uh

02:16:06.880 read this 2001 that was over 20 years ago okay so was trump's statement x no the stuff i posted

02:16:16.920 to x was much more recent i think it's actually gotten worse since this but i can't see it good

02:16:23.100 enough to read it. Um, okay. If you go to my, I don't know if you can dig it up in my X though.

02:16:32.180 Um, but yes, it, I don't know why you're so, uh, doubtful of my statistics, but I just,

02:16:38.120 I just find that very hard to believe. Why? Here's the reason you want to know why. And again,

02:16:42.920 you're doing a woman thing. You're going, this is my experience. This is reality. This is my 1.00

02:16:47.720 experience. And I'm telling you, there's a whole world out there that is not your experience. Um,

02:16:52.320 i've had things happen to me that most people never have happened to them i don't assume that's

02:16:56.400 everyone's universal experience that's not very smart i feel like i've heard more often than not

02:17:01.360 in my personal life these what does that have to do with anything i think you understand that your

02:17:06.560 personal let me just say this again your personal experience does not have any bearing on the

02:17:12.880 population at large and what the statistics are you understand that right okay then let's not

02:17:18.000 talk about that okay okay and then like in your personal experience you should in the moment am i

02:17:24.940 feeling this because society tells me i should or is this something that like i've had experience

02:17:30.560 with this like i remember growing up probably you've seen you know you're a woman on the elevator

02:17:36.140 and a black man gets on and you hold your purse more tightly like for a while i was an uber driver

02:17:41.080 And, you know, I picked up some Muslim people at a mosque and I, I'm like, if I was going by what the world says, I should feel like, oh my gosh, they're going to do something horrible to me because I'm a woman. 1.00

02:17:55.080 I'm not saying even that women shouldn't be cautious.

02:17:57.620 I'm not saying that there aren't men that do bad things.

02:18:00.300 I'm, I'm asking them specifically.

02:18:02.700 It's a very specific question and they've given me nothing.

02:18:06.160 What rights do women not have? 1.00

02:18:08.500 what evidence is there of widespread oppression of women by men like how are you oppressed by men

02:18:15.040 that you need to march in the streets we just keep saying the same thing over and over and I

02:18:19.400 and I you know what a defeater is so if you say we're having a debate you say something I say

02:18:26.340 something that cancels out your something and makes it null and void and kills your point

02:18:29.880 then you have to we were saying our point over and over but your point is just I feel like

02:18:34.580 that's not evidence of anything that's not a logical argument in favor of anything it's not

02:18:39.520 proof of anything like you there has to be a good reason do you know what justification is

02:18:44.040 absolutely so if you believe something and you have a belief you should have a good justified

02:18:48.360 reason to hold that belief otherwise it could be a delusion and we don't want to live and operate

02:18:53.880 off of delusions i think we'd all agree that's not smart so we're trying to see if you're feeling

02:19:00.100 that women are still generally oppressed by men is accurate so i'm asking for evidence of your 1.00

02:19:07.040 claim that women are oppressed by men i no evidence i have i don't i have never went to

02:19:12.360 college i'm just basing off i also never went to college but you i do this for a living i'm

02:19:17.300 literally just some random person that works an everyday job well i'm just the whole point of

02:19:23.740 this show is to take normal average everyday women which i was up until like what two years ago 1.00

02:19:29.160 so it's not like I've been famous in my whole life or something like that or and I'm still like a

02:19:33.960 very d-tier internet niche celebrity it's not that big but the whole point is to talk to I'm really

02:19:40.460 not a big deal no big deal we're trying to talk to normal people normal women and explore their

02:19:47.260 worldview and what they think and why they think it and the rub with most women is the why they 1.00

02:19:52.900 think it part they're very sure what they think they have very strong opinions but when you say

02:19:57.560 why do you have that opinion? What's your justified, you know, what's your justification

02:20:01.020 for holding that belief? They usually just kind of go, uh, or they give you reasons that

02:20:06.220 are not rational or not logical or don't hold weight when you examine them. So that's what

02:20:11.280 I like your example of women should like carry mace or whatnot. If they're walking alone at night, 1.00

02:20:15.860 I said they might feel the need. But, but that would be more justified if you're walking in a 0.59

02:20:21.980 place where like there is a lot of attacks on women like if there's not really if that's not 1.00

02:20:30.080 something like I don't imagine this is a dangerous place here in Santa Barbara

02:20:33.580 Santa Barbara is relatively safe but I mean you know actually the statistics show

02:20:39.420 that actually men are more likely to be victim of violent crime yes that's what I was yeah I 0.99

02:20:45.100 could see that I could definitely see that because of just yeah I think you were trying to get some

02:20:50.120 more stuff out of the list of the rights that women supposedly I'm still waiting for the rights 1.00

02:20:55.860 that we need or evidence of the widespread oppression of women can I ask a question quickly

02:21:01.160 can you give me an example of how you've been oppressed by a man specifically in your life

02:21:07.680 and why was it oppressing

02:21:09.480 let me think

02:21:12.640 you should have a lot you just told us your whole life experience

02:21:17.980 Very strong views on it.

02:21:19.840 Your whole life experience is just men 1.00

02:21:21.760 endlessly oppressing you.

02:21:23.420 I never said it was men endlessly

02:21:25.920 oppressing me. You said your whole

02:21:27.740 experience, you, everyone you know,

02:21:29.800 just like your whole experience. You said

02:21:31.720 a lot of your statements were

02:21:33.920 based off of your experience

02:21:35.600 as well as your friends, which means

02:21:37.840 based off of your experience, what

02:21:39.840 have you experienced?

02:21:42.120 There we go. There's the source.

02:21:45.060 2007.

02:21:46.020 That is still like almost 20 years ago.

02:21:47.980 i can go google more updated stats i really quick on the date really quick on the date here uh it

02:21:56.220 would occur to me that society has been moving uh away from misogyny yes so it almost seems like

02:22:05.920 if the data 10 20 30 years ago indicated that the rates were like this then i i think my and

02:22:14.380 my understanding is there's, uh, violence against women trending downwards, uh, certain crimes

02:22:20.780 trending downwards towards women. So even though the studies are from 10, 20, 30 years ago or

02:22:25.940 whatever, I mean, 2007, that's about 20 years ago. Uh, I don't think that's actually, uh,

02:22:32.740 contrary here. You know what else you guys should consider? The most violent domestic

02:22:37.760 relationships are lesbian relationships. I have friends that are lesbians and I, I, I've seen 0.99

02:22:43.620 that myself well actually that's a really good point you raise rachel my understanding is

02:22:47.980 when you uh look at the not just lesbian relationships but you compare uh homosexual

02:22:54.200 versus heterosexual relationships so including gay men uh you have two men and this i assume

02:23:01.100 your position is men violent you have two men in a relationship those relationships actually

02:23:05.860 interestingly enough are the least violent when there's two men in the relationship then you have

02:23:11.360 heterosexual relationships in the middle and then the most violent relationships are when you have 0.94

02:23:16.500 two women and how would you explain that well i can explain it if you don't know so women there's 1.00

02:23:23.900 a couple things going on men growing up have to do rough and tumble play with each other they play

02:23:29.300 sports they play contact sports they very quickly learn how easy it is to hurt somebody and that

02:23:33.780 they're strong and that they can hurt somebody and that they've got to get that under control

02:23:37.000 women don't really experience that as much. So that's one thing. The second thing is this is

02:23:42.560 actually proof of women being so safe and comfortable with men that they feel totally 0.81

02:23:47.160 safe attacking them in domestic situations. The woman is not really scared he's going to do

02:23:52.820 anything back. She knows she's legally probably going to get away with it and that he really

02:23:57.580 doesn't want to hurt her and because he could. So women must feel very comfortable attacking men 1.00

02:24:04.880 in romantic relationships if the rate is 70% of them of the aggressors are women so I don't know

02:24:11.980 if I buy this narrative that women are just so terrified of men because they're so violent

02:24:16.020 towards us and they're just waiting for any chance to that's not what I'm trying I just I think

02:24:20.080 everyone should not hate each other no one should be shooting I agree I think we all agree like I

02:24:24.700 just want violence unity I don't think yeah I don't think it matters who's so it sounds like

02:24:28.960 we changed your mind no no I never I never was on the standpoint of men or abusive men

02:24:34.240 yes you were i know i was on the standpoint of men are i thought if you're saying that statistic

02:24:41.220 is correct which i'll believe you if that is what i'll look it up later when i'm home and see if

02:24:45.260 there's anything more current but i'm just saying that like violence overall is bad it doesn't matter

02:24:50.040 the restroom and i'm gonna do it like this because you're walking it back right now so yeah yeah i

02:24:54.620 changed i changed the angle doesn't matter it doesn't matter who's committing the violence

02:24:57.480 violence is bad we need to stop hurting each other peace and love yeah so all that jazz uh

02:25:02.780 so i guess what what were you trying to draw like let's say that what if we were to grant

02:25:09.680 some of your positions that men commit these crimes more often what what are we supposed to

02:25:15.680 do with that well this all originated from her protesting and i you guys were saying why are you

02:25:22.180 protesting what do you think you're going to get done why does it matter well so what why does what

02:25:27.980 matter why does her doing what she wants with her free time matter to anybody else and why if she is

02:25:32.540 in the streets walking how does that what does that have to do well i mean hold on there's a

02:25:37.000 couple different questions smuggled in there but uh one i think that you know oftentimes these

02:25:42.480 left-wing protests or protests that originate from more like progressive liberal leftist positions

02:25:48.760 or i guess feminist positions these are typically uh many times are violent in any case though 1.00

02:25:57.460 what are we supposed to draw from these assertions about men from the

02:26:04.780 assertions about men so i don't know can i ask you a question so would you be okay so is this

02:26:10.280 the framework uh men commit these crimes disproportionately women are the victims

02:26:15.760 disproportionately therefore we need mass nationwide protests against men i you know

02:26:25.640 I think all that matters is it's a demonstration of people coming together to show what they support.

02:26:30.000 Like the ICE protests, the No Kings protests, that is showing that our country is not okay with what's happening.

02:26:34.980 Which is what, though?

02:26:36.380 What is the thing that is happening that is not okay?

02:26:39.200 ICE supporting undocumented immigrants and then even documented immigrants deporting them.

02:26:44.920 That is not okay.

02:26:47.060 That's a separate thing.

02:26:48.380 I'd love to get into it.

02:26:50.120 But let's stick to the man component.

02:26:52.680 I don't know.

02:26:53.460 Here, you answer then.

02:26:55.640 we really have to keep talking about men okay um it's pertinent okay okay um what what was your

02:27:05.200 question what are you trying to get at by participating uh what what are you trying

02:27:12.040 to achieve what are you trying to communicate about men about women what what are you trying

02:27:16.420 to say when i'm protesting are men bad is what what are you trying to do while protesting like

02:27:22.760 why do I take to the streets in general yeah sure um I protest for things that I've personally been

02:27:32.640 through things my friends have been through it's kind of it's empowering it's I've had friends

02:27:39.220 like when I organized like a protest before I've had friends literally tell me that they felt so

02:27:44.700 empowered they'd never done something like that so it's not always about just you know oh this

02:27:50.440 protest is going to change something that i want to change it's also to say hey i believe this

02:27:56.800 thing and i think that everyone's allowed you believe i believe in women's rights i believe

02:28:04.600 that women should not be women's rights women should not be what treated unfairly unfairly 0.93

02:28:10.640 talked about the way they're talked about the way talked about in a demeaning way even though

02:28:15.440 women mistreat men, even 1.00

02:28:17.740 though women talk poorly about men. 0.68

02:28:19.340 Men can go riot. They can go protest 0.78

02:28:21.320 mistreats too if they want to. They could. They could. They could absolutely

02:28:23.680 do that. We're not saying they can't. Just because the women are 1.00

02:28:25.600 doing it doesn't mean the men can't. Okay, that's fine. Can I ask you a question

02:28:27.840 though? Is

02:28:29.760 hmm, let me think about this.

02:28:33.240 I want to

02:28:33.880 really

02:28:35.720 quick. We haven't done this segment

02:28:37.580 in a while, but I think it's relevant. Would you

02:28:39.640 rather cross, and I'm going to tie it all together.

02:28:41.820 Would you rather cross paths with a random man

02:28:43.660 or a random bear on a hike?

02:28:45.440 Well, I wouldn't want to compress with the bear, because that would be my life at stake there, and yeah, so I definitely would rather have a man.

02:28:57.480 Let's get the answers, please.

02:28:58.380 I would rather have a bear.

02:28:59.680 Bear?

02:29:00.020 That's crazy.

02:29:00.980 Depends on the type of bear, black bear, bear.

02:29:03.600 It's a random man or a random bear?

02:29:05.740 Random bear.

02:29:06.500 Okay, what about you?

02:29:07.240 What's wrong with you?

02:29:08.540 Random man.

02:29:09.200 Jesus.

02:29:10.580 What would I rather?

02:29:11.800 Man?

02:29:12.400 Yeah, I'm going around the table.

02:29:13.380 Oh, a man.

02:29:14.260 What about you?

02:29:14.840 A man.

02:29:15.440 a man okay so bear bear why do you pick bear why don't you pick man this is my my thought process

02:29:22.220 in that question is that assuming the bear is aggressive so that would assume that the man is

02:29:27.220 also aggressive right is that is that the the situation or are we just doing no random so

02:29:32.820 it's assuming the the myriad and varied ways in which uh bear a bear or a man encounter could go

02:29:43.200 So you would agree that you can encounter a bear, nothing could happen.

02:29:46.900 You can encounter a bear, it eats you to death.

02:29:48.920 You can encounter a man, nothing happens.

02:29:50.640 You can encounter a man, he could punch you.

02:29:52.800 You could encounter a man, he could torture you and do all kinds of terrible things.

02:29:57.260 It's just like that.

02:29:58.120 I don't care if I see a man or a bear.

02:29:59.500 I've been hiking and I've seen both men and both bears.

02:30:01.860 But if it's in the situation where I'm assuming they're both hostile and aggressive and want to hurt me, I would choose a bear.

02:30:07.060 But that's not granted in the question.

02:30:08.920 You're more likely to walk away from a man attacking you than a bear attacking you.

02:30:12.860 maybe she doesn't think that no but i've seen bears they've never attacked me i've hiked in

02:30:17.360 tahoe i've been like grandma has a cabin in tahoe there's bears outside never been attacked by a man

02:30:22.240 or a bear on a hike so i've walked past many men without being attacked what's your answer

02:30:25.620 what's your answer bear and my answer is that because let's let's just say that the bear was

02:30:34.980 violent and literally you know ended my life um and let's say the man happened to be violent

02:30:42.760 and ended my life i would be more scared about what a man would do regardless of just ending my

02:30:53.060 life what else he might do versus the bear but at least he would live no no no i'm saying that

02:31:01.960 if i'm assuming that the man does end my life the bear ends my life i would rather have it done by a

02:31:09.280 bear because at least that i have the expectation that that bear is the bear how the bear is going

02:31:15.460 to kill me and my life okay but this this sort of smuggles in an assumption that in both instances

02:31:24.160 you will be attacked you now you also have to do a an analysis of the likelihood of an attack

02:31:31.120 yes so but when this started being talked about on social media um a lot of the reason that the

02:31:39.260 women that women were talking about this is because of the point that i'm saying right now

02:31:44.460 not just oh men are more likely to attack you than a bear or any of that it was more so that

02:31:51.680 women were scared about what a man what a aggressive man might do versus an aggressive 0.79

02:31:57.820 bear sure you guys are getting the question too open-ended what's that it's well you're leaving

02:32:01.840 it with too many hypotheticals like if i like i said i've seen a man and a bear neither of which

02:32:06.060 have attacks no but built into that you can so okay even if you don't make a a hypothetical

02:32:12.700 granting of the nature of the person so it's just left up to could an attack happen by the man

02:32:19.660 could an attack happen by the bear it could be yes or no in both instances if either of them

02:32:24.420 could hypothetically attack me i hypothetically don't care yeah uh get the discord going in the

02:32:29.820 resources there's a bear segment i want you to get that ready to go in just a moment um i want

02:32:36.220 to reef if i were to reframe the question and if maybe this might help uh do you so i guess a

02:32:42.140 couple clarifying questions is it okay for women because of their own experiences to choose bear

02:32:47.200 over men like everyone can have their own opinion they would rather i mean that doesn't have anything

02:32:52.360 to do with me but i think if they want to choose a bear over a man they have the reason to do that

02:32:58.280 I was reading the comment

02:33:01.640 Yeah, don't read those

02:33:02.660 Focus on the conversation

02:33:03.960 Okay, what was the question?

02:33:05.980 Are you serious?

02:33:07.300 Is it okay for men because of their own experiences

02:33:09.680 To choose bear over men? 0.84

02:33:12.600 Okay for women? 1.00

02:33:13.820 Okay for women or men? 0.61

02:33:15.500 I'm sorry, is it okay for women because of their own experiences

02:33:17.820 To choose bear over men? 0.84

02:33:19.120 Yes it is

02:33:19.780 Is it okay because women have 1.00

02:33:25.020 Seen crime statistics

02:33:27.480 that indicate that men perpetrate crimes more frequently than women

02:33:32.200 for women to have a justified or even unjustified fear of men.

02:33:38.480 If they're afraid of them.

02:33:39.420 They can, yeah, if someone is afraid of someone, they're afraid of someone.

02:33:44.080 Is that okay? Okay.

02:33:45.000 I mean, a man can be afraid of a woman, too.

02:33:46.840 Exactly.

02:33:47.040 It goes both ways.

02:33:47.740 Yeah, yeah, sure.

02:33:48.180 You guys are speaking to this one side so heavily, but it goes both ways,

02:33:51.340 and that's what we're saying.

02:33:52.500 Chill out. Let me get through it.

02:33:57.480 Hold on. I lost my train of thought when you were prattling.

02:34:02.700 What was the other one?

02:34:05.000 Oh, if a woman, say she hasn't had her own experiences of violence, 1.00

02:34:10.680 but she's been exposed to many, many TikTok videos or media pieces

02:34:15.440 or news reportings of men who have attacked women,

02:34:20.920 that even if she hasn't had her own firsthand experience,

02:34:23.760 that this would then create justification for her picking the bear over a man. 0.89

02:34:29.640 If that's how she feels, yes.

02:34:31.040 She can think whenever she wants.

02:34:32.140 Now, let me change the hypothetical, and you tell me if you find it objectionable now. 0.89

02:34:36.900 A white person was victimized once or twice or three times by a black person.

02:34:43.660 They now pick, when presented the same question, 0.98

02:34:47.120 you replace man in this situation, and you replace it with black person. 0.85

02:34:52.160 and this person's white would you find it racist if somebody were to want to be

02:34:59.660 confronted by a bear over a well not confronted uh encounter a bear over a black person i think

02:35:07.120 racism stems from like an inherent hate for a certain race i don't think you can like i i don't

02:35:13.240 think it's a matter of being could you wait can you inherently hate a gender yes absolutely i don't

02:35:19.000 hate men at all i've never once said that i hate men but i'm saying i didn't you said something

02:35:23.520 about racism i didn't say anything about racism but that's basically what you're implying because

02:35:27.500 you're saying they saw him three times to be afraid of a black man wait so is it sexist to

02:35:33.020 be afraid of a man and i didn't say black man i said black person i think as long like i i see 0.73

02:35:39.080 sexism as someone who like has a deep hatred towards one gender and they act upon those 0.70

02:35:44.040 beliefs as long as they're just thinking it and they're not doing anything okay but so is it why

02:35:49.040 does it matter what so is it sexist for women to pick bear sex for women to pick bear i i think it

02:35:56.360 depends on the reasoning for picking bear and it depends on the way they're thinking of the question

02:35:59.580 of the three things i gave so either they had firsthand uh bad experience with a man they

02:36:05.320 are aware of crime statistics that indicate that men commit crimes more frequently than women

02:36:09.760 uh granting that i guess and then third uh they see like news and media and tiktoks about

02:36:16.080 how bad men are but they haven't had a bad experience themselves um i don't think it's

02:36:23.060 i think that is sexist to just assume because it's a man that they're going to do something bad but

02:36:28.080 i feel like you can read someone's body language too like if they're staring at you a certain way

02:36:31.700 or something like that then that's one thing but i do think it is sexist to just assume

02:36:34.940 to choose bear because so it is sexist i think that is sexist but i think when most people think

02:36:40.880 of that question they are assuming both of the part no i don't think they're assuming they

02:36:45.180 absolutely are they're not assuming that in both instances they will be attacked it's not granted

02:36:51.300 in the hypothetical that's the way i've always thought yes that is the way that it was intended

02:36:55.780 okay well then let me change the hypothetical then uh would you rather would you rather cross

02:37:01.300 paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike and in this hypothetical there's not a granting of

02:37:07.740 in both instances you will be attacked you don't know okay but this was not the argument on social

02:37:14.560 media this wasn't that was no because you can't make that assumption the point of the hypothetical

02:37:22.040 the whole point of the man versus bear question is to assess do women have a realistic risk

02:37:29.060 assessment when it comes to men and their aggressiveness so like if you and here's the

02:37:35.720 reason why usually the follow-up to this question is we get because and women will say what you said 1.00

02:37:40.380 well the bear is not going to grape me but the man might and so i'd rather get eaten by the bear

02:37:45.740 okay and then we go around the table and say what percentage of men do you think would do that to 1.00

02:37:51.540 you if they could get away with it and maybe we should just ask that because some of the answers

02:37:56.940 are wild like what do you what percentage of men on average do you think would grape you if they

02:38:03.540 thought they could get away with it if they could get away with it maybe

02:38:11.860 20 i'm gonna say like five to 15. okay um we've had girls say like 80 percent yeah

02:38:24.640 That's a bit

02:38:26.060 I mean all of the men in my life

02:38:28.960 Hold on but I do want to go back to

02:38:31.060 But do you think it's okay if a woman picks 1.00

02:38:34.640 Bear

02:38:36.560 She can pick whatever she wants

02:38:39.580 You're fine with it

02:38:40.920 Okay is it okay for a white person to pick 0.74

02:38:43.120 Bear over black person 1.00

02:38:44.840 For a woman to pick bear 1.00

02:38:49.160 I think that's fair

02:38:51.220 I think if a white person is black person 0.73

02:38:53.740 A white person picks bear over a black person.

02:39:00.420 I think either way.

02:39:01.600 You would have to agree.

02:39:02.480 I feel like the way I've always thought of that question is that, like I've said this already, but both of them were aggressive.

02:39:07.640 Before you give your explanation, answer my question.

02:39:10.180 I don't think, if you're asking if it's okay, it's not me, not me personally.

02:39:14.320 They can think whatever they want.

02:39:15.720 I'm not going to, this hypothetical person.

02:39:17.640 Okay, but people can think whatever they want, but the question, would you object to their line of thinking?

02:39:25.880 I would have to be in that situation.

02:39:27.100 Do you object to racism?

02:39:28.440 I do object to racism, absolutely, but I don't think that's racism.

02:39:32.840 You don't think it'd be a little racist?

02:39:35.440 I mean, that is, yeah, no, you're right, you're right, you're absolutely right, you're absolutely right.

02:39:38.720 That is racist, but also, like, that's, like, everyone has a different train of thought.

02:39:43.480 Like, you guys are just all hypothetical, like, you're not getting anything specific.

02:39:46.440 What do you think?

02:39:47.860 Would you object to a white person picking bear over black person?

02:39:52.760 I can't really object to something that's going on in their own mind, their own feelings.

02:39:58.440 How can I object?

02:39:59.160 You can definitely object.

02:40:00.580 I mean, you object to how men talk about women or feel them all.

02:40:04.720 What happens when they all have a right to feel how they want to feel?

02:40:06.820 That they do feel.

02:40:07.540 That's exactly what we're saying.

02:40:08.500 That's not worth.

02:40:09.680 Feel inside.

02:40:10.380 Hold on.

02:40:11.100 Wait, wait, wait.

02:40:11.820 Feel outside inside.

02:40:12.880 You don't object to people having thoughts.

02:40:15.400 that's useless in a conversation that's trying to explore whether something is right or wrong

02:40:21.540 i mean i feel like if i if i put myself in that situation i saw three black people and they did 0.96

02:40:26.460 something bad to me they attacked me or something like that and then i saw another black person

02:40:30.120 you're adding a bunch of stuff i know i would you're adding i can't i can't i don't choose

02:40:34.660 i don't know their thought process i don't know you do a lot of this and not a lot of this so

02:40:39.380 let me help you let me you gotta let me help you the point of the hypothetical the reason

02:40:44.900 there's not all these details is to see what your assumptions are and to test yes it is so it's

02:40:52.060 there to test where does your brain go what are your assumptions you're going to make and then

02:40:57.820 what is the logic behind why you're thinking that that's the point of the hypothetical if we load it

02:41:02.700 with a bunch of specifics it's no longer serving the purpose i just feel like it has to be specific

02:41:08.060 in order to be accurate.

02:41:09.960 What?

02:41:10.440 But life isn't specific.

02:41:11.960 I know, but why is this hypothetical?

02:41:14.040 Here, can I change it?

02:41:15.480 That's the point of a hypothetical.

02:41:17.040 That's the whole point of it.

02:41:18.540 Okay, do you think it's wrong for women to, 1.00

02:41:22.140 if, say, it's at night or whatever,

02:41:24.980 and they're walking down the street

02:41:26.460 and they see three men,

02:41:27.820 is it wrong for the women to cross the street? 1.00

02:41:29.640 Absolutely not.

02:41:30.580 Okay, if a white person sees a group of black people,

02:41:34.560 is it wrong for them to cross the street?

02:41:38.060 I don't think it's, I don't think it's wrong.

02:41:41.360 I don't, I think that's racist.

02:41:43.160 That is racist.

02:41:44.040 I will admit that is racist, but if they, and they're like, I, I wouldn't do that.

02:41:47.700 But if that person feels very threatened by black people, then they could cross the street. 0.81

02:41:52.000 That's like, they can do whatever they want. 0.94

02:41:54.120 Okay.

02:41:54.380 But I, you're not asking me personally what I would do.

02:41:57.080 Like, that's the difference.

02:41:58.840 She's just looping. 0.99

02:41:59.860 I don't know what you're going to say.

02:42:02.420 I have a question.

02:42:03.600 Hold on.

02:42:04.300 And what about you?

02:42:04.900 i the first question was can people cross the can a woman cross the street if she sees three men

02:42:13.820 yes is it fine from your perspective for her to cross the street yes okay is it sexist if she 1.00

02:42:21.940 does it is she a sexist i don't know okay cool if a white person sees a group of three black people

02:42:32.300 not specifying their gender even is it racist if they're like three black people i'm crossing the 0.99

02:42:39.380 street that is definitely a racist thought yeah i think in most cases i believe so and is racism

02:42:44.880 bad yes yes is sexism bad yes well yes wait is sexism only bad when men do it to women

02:42:52.860 no no i mean can women even be sexist 1.00

02:42:56.500 yes women can be sexist but wait you at well raven actually on the questionnaire 1.00

02:43:06.060 you indicated uh women can't be sexist towards men and you agree with that statement yeah so i

02:43:11.720 was i was kind of like going through it and i was like technically yes women can say sexist

02:43:19.560 things or do sexist things towards men i just don't think that it equates to the same level

02:43:24.660 how so because men have always been in positions of power men have always like

02:43:32.420 yeah what about now though how would that matter i guess

02:43:36.620 i mean then i'm gonna get into something that that's gonna be a whole different topic which

02:43:43.480 is what i mean the the reason why the president like the reason why the president is who the

02:43:50.180 president is right now i mean that's so you think that kamala harris didn't get elected because 1.00

02:43:56.400 she's a woman yes because she's a woman of color i know i agree yes no okay what evidence do you

02:44:03.780 have any evidence to support that do you guys think michelle obama's transgender too are you

02:44:08.420 those people i i don't think that but i don't see how that's relevant i was just gonna say do you

02:44:13.680 know how many women voted for trump i don't i have no idea probably then how can you a majority

02:44:20.160 sense on that well a majority of female voters voted for trump yes and it's very unfortunate

02:44:25.460 yeah why i'm not surprised by it i mean roe v wade is being overturned how is that that's

02:44:31.600 awesome that's amazing that's no it means that we're not murdering babies in record numbers

02:44:37.380 you think if a woman gets yes babies babies okay what are they they are fetuses okay don't want to 1.00

02:44:43.600 get pregnant and don't have unprotected sex wait let me walk them down the logic tree is a fetus 1.00

02:44:51.480 a human no oh what is it a fetus a human fetus you know that fetus just tells you gestational 1.00

02:45:00.020 age and that the species is human it's a homo sapiens right if it's not human what the fuck 0.99

02:45:06.480 is it? You're not going to change my belief on this. I'm not trying to change your belief. I'm 0.99

02:45:10.380 trying to walk down the logic tree and see where you get the belief. So if it's not a human, what

02:45:15.880 is it? A fetus. A human fetus or like a dog fetus or a pig fetus? A human fetus. Okay. If it's a

02:45:25.180 human fetus and you abort it, you're killing a human fetus. It's not alive yet. What do you mean

02:45:33.400 it's not alive yet why do you have to kill it do any of you if it's not alive you can literally

02:45:39.700 hear the heartbeat is alive okay it's two months it doesn't even it's a biologists uh agree okay

02:45:47.900 don't deny science now biologists agree that it's alive you just think it's not a person right it's

02:45:55.600 not it's not a i don't think she said it's not human which is wild i did not say it's not you

02:46:00.140 said it's not human like three times okay well i finally got you to admit it's not a human being

02:46:06.000 it's not a human being it's not a conscious you know what here's your you don't even know your

02:46:11.220 own position you don't even they don't even know their own position what let smart leftists say

02:46:17.680 not you people but smart leftists say it doesn't have personhood it's human it's alive but we don't

02:46:25.020 consider it a person yet we don't exactly know at what point we do consider it a person or it needs

02:46:29.820 have consciousness there's usually like a cutoff point in some kind of consciousness or personhood

02:46:33.880 argument you guys aren't even smart enough to come up with that so why how on earth did you

02:46:38.700 come up with this idea I think that you're not killing a human being that is alive I think it's

02:46:43.640 funny that conservatives like to attack other people's like character or smarts when it comes

02:46:52.300 to things like this I think it's funny because you don't really see it I think it's funny that

02:46:56.740 you believe in stuff that you don't even know what you're talking about and that you can't

02:47:00.260 explain when you're asked the simplest question i don't think you don't you don't if you believe

02:47:05.480 murder is wrong then you're killing a human being i'm going to say you're not allowed to do that

02:47:11.460 it's not up to your opinion abortion isn't murder though tell me how absolutely tell me how if a 0.96

02:47:16.940 woman was murdered while she's pregnant i'll tell you how it's murder it's murder because it's a 0.59

02:47:22.060 human being who is alive and you don't do anything where do you where do you believe

02:47:27.720 consciousness begins it doesn't matter to me where consciousness begins okay fine if there's a person

02:47:34.300 they're uh 22 years old and they were uh they have a debilitative disease and they don't have 0.55

02:47:41.780 consciousness anymore is it okay for you to kill them if someone's brain dead yeah oh you can just 0.98

02:47:46.580 walk into the hospital and kill them someone is brain dead don't think i don't know much about it 0.77

02:47:50.800 But don't they give you the option to let that take them off the license of vegetables? 0.98

02:47:54.820 They're not brain dead, but they're not conscious.

02:47:56.700 They're in a coma.

02:47:57.740 Well, I would argue that a baby's brain dead.

02:48:00.460 So let's follow the logic. 0.99

02:48:03.900 You think that if somebody is not conscious, it's okay to kill them. 0.99

02:48:06.800 So if Brian has too much to drink tonight and he passes out on the couch, you can kill him because he's not conscious. 0.95

02:48:12.160 That's not what I'm saying at all. 0.81

02:48:13.320 Okay, so it's got to be something else.

02:48:15.000 So what makes it okay to kill a human fetus?

02:48:18.340 Because it is not a conscious being.

02:48:20.260 It is a fetus.

02:48:21.260 I do have to move it on.

02:48:22.180 You know the definitions?

02:48:22.760 Hold on.

02:48:23.120 I do got to move it on.

02:48:24.220 We can come back to abortion later. 0.99

02:48:25.720 Based, Thor donated $200.

02:48:27.960 Thank you, man.

02:48:28.700 At the end of the day, you can trust a bear to be a bear, but can't trust a human man 1.00

02:48:32.820 to be humane.

02:48:34.040 We cannot support this delusion anymore.

02:48:36.880 How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

02:48:40.200 For you two, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

02:48:43.320 I didn't have breakfast this morning.

02:48:44.420 I didn't have breakfast.

02:48:46.520 Oh, my God.

02:48:47.660 Failed.

02:48:48.000 I'm rather failed.

02:48:48.540 Wait, what is the question?

02:48:49.640 Failed the breakfast question.

02:48:50.760 Totally failed it.

02:48:51.420 At the end of the day, you can trust the baby food.

02:48:53.400 Thank you, Bass Thor.

02:48:54.840 Desert Jorge.

02:48:56.140 Talking about brain dead. 0.95

02:48:57.900 Holy cow. 0.89

02:48:58.600 Are you going to call Venus and brain dead?

02:49:00.180 On this panel, chair two and chair three are full on retorted, displaying clinical cognitive dissonance in front of a live audience.

02:49:09.220 Brixen, it's time for the asteroid.

02:49:11.820 Oh, I'll send the asteroid.

02:49:13.040 It's been a while since we've done that.

02:49:14.780 Sending the asteroid.

02:49:16.400 Sending the asteroid.

02:49:17.720 Coming here.

02:49:18.360 by the way we have other options

02:49:21.760 if you want to send one in

02:49:22.740 I have funny missile

02:49:25.020 split missile and I think I have a nuke I can also send

02:49:27.940 I would love to be nukes 0.99

02:49:28.840 this one's crazy 0.99

02:49:30.320 this is definitely not my girlfriend

02:49:33.020 but Brian's girlfriend

02:49:35.080 baby I'm already tired of listening to the 0.98

02:49:37.740 inane mindless who's this in discord 0.99

02:49:39.580 mindless drivel from chair 2 0.96

02:49:41.700 and 3 come home so my

02:49:43.120 my wizard sleeves

02:49:45.880 can cast grip 0.96

02:49:47.940 10 and thrust seven on you okay that's crazy hashtag your girlfriend's wild that is insane 1.00

02:49:55.520 um definitely not that's probably a dude who sent that um uh cowboy larry imagine you flip

02:50:04.400 this around in this day and time men would rather encounter the bear than women only because of the

02:50:08.520 possibility of false accusations and being a creep that's totally fine thank you cowboy larry

02:50:14.700 Thank you for your soup chat. Mr. Northumberland, racism is treating or viewing an individual or

02:50:19.580 group of individuals negatively solely based on their race or sex for sexism, regardless of

02:50:25.380 context or circumstance. Power and privilege are relevant. It's like saying only people in power

02:50:29.880 can hate. That makes no sense. Because you were saying that when women do sexism, it's not as bad 0.83

02:50:36.440 as when men do sexism. It's not as severe because of historical power imbalances and blah, blah,

02:50:42.600 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yes. So can I ask you a question? Yeah. Where,

02:50:47.300 how does the intersection of like socioeconomic or socioeconomics or class factor into this? So

02:50:53.840 like, could a really wealthy women who like sees a homeless man be like, say some like really sexist 1.00

02:50:59.340 shit to him. And that's more severe than, uh, like a broke guy calling Taylor Swift a slut. 1.00

02:51:06.980 because you would you say it's sexist to just like call women sluts just because yes but what 0.99

02:51:15.300 if it's a broke guy calling taylor swift a slut so okay power dynamics come into play there using 0.98

02:51:21.080 your like backwards definition of it but i think i think it's i mean no that's yeah that's like a

02:51:31.920 good point with like the power dynamic thing yeah fin dom has some power dynamics going on yeah

02:51:39.040 that's a good point yeah you that's like your whole basis of uh here we have another tts coming

02:51:46.020 in from this justin thank you man based justin donated 200 i for one would love to watch each

02:51:53.520 and every one of these twits spawn next to an ursity what is that yes please let the healing

02:51:59.280 begin repeal the 19th and make asylums great again what uh base justin thank you very much 1.00

02:52:05.820 for the uh tts really appreciate it man guys w's in chat for justin thank you dude uh ten dollar

02:52:11.120 display hundred dollar read two hundred dollar tts if you want to get one in guys like the video

02:52:15.440 uh like the video let me see where we're at now oh this is unacceptable 3 800 likes guys i need

02:52:22.160 to see we need to get a 4444 i need 4444 likes get it there boys uh and also let's pull up twitch

02:52:31.220 really quick guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a fall on the prime sub i'm holding it

02:52:35.380 hostage until we get three prime subs i need to see three prime subs uh let me see three prime

02:52:41.780 subs holding this shit hostage let me get some follows going too let me see some follows guys 0.84

02:52:46.500 let me shout some people out trucks thank for the prime to gogi thank for the prime jury thank for 0.98

02:52:51.720 the prime uh we got a tier one from half pint hitman thank you man freaking mark thank for the

02:52:57.040 prime reason thank for the prime swalilo thank for the prime jury thank for the prime let me

02:53:02.960 shout out some followers peak mick coco snazzy armed goof clax guys check if you have a prime

02:53:09.960 show some support over there uh you know what i'm a nice guy i'm not gonna hold it hostage

02:53:15.040 okay let the grifting cease i guess uh all right so where were we uh we were talking about the the

02:53:25.120 the protests i think so wait no no no you brought it back to fin dom can i ask a question but yeah

02:53:36.560 If you had to fight a bear and know that he was going to eat you and kill you or be sexually assaulted by a man, but you would live, would you still choose the bear?

02:53:49.280 Probably the man.

02:53:50.040 But that's just, like, and that's a specific situation.

02:53:52.820 But, like, I mean, I would rather be alive than dead.

02:53:57.280 I mean, yeah.

02:53:57.680 I mean, I don't.

02:53:58.840 So, like, that's kind of the ridiculousness of the bear being the choice because, you know.

02:54:04.800 if i was going to be sexual assault a man coming i mean as long as he's not having a weapon most 0.99

02:54:10.000 you have certain things you can do to you know punch him kick him in the balls most men that 0.99

02:54:14.760 kill women end up doing other things to like necrophilia rape like all that stuff torture 1.00

02:54:20.300 but then you would still be alive at the end of that versus if you were murdered after no you 0.99

02:54:25.880 want no i'm saying the other stuff but i don't know it's just too open-ended of a question to

02:54:32.780 give an accurate answer without specifics. Well, we're going to shift off that, but

02:54:36.520 I had a question for you on the Fyndom stuff. So you write that you don't believe Fyndom is

02:54:44.680 taking advantage of men because they are consensually participating. I guess we talked

02:54:50.020 about that a little bit, but I don't know if I got a clear cut answer on the consent thing.

02:54:54.860 They're the ones seeking you out and begging to pay you. Yes. Okay.

02:55:02.780 um and then there's another thing you also don't believe all women should be stereotyped as overly

02:55:07.260 emotional dramatic or reactive we'll come back to that one uh going back to the fandom stuff

02:55:12.700 you describe yourself in some of your bios a spoiled greedy wajin brat yes why do you laugh 0.91

02:55:21.640 at that isn't that it's part of the persona does that make you cringe hearing your own words or 0.75

02:55:28.280 something? No, it's just funny. It's funny. You say you're Wajian. What's your other half, 1.00

02:55:33.180 I guess? Half Korean, half white. Okay. And you also describe yourself as a wallet drainer.

02:55:38.440 Yes. So you drain the wallets. You charge a tribute of $40 to speak to you. Really quick,

02:55:45.240 what is a tribute for those who don't know? That is what a sub has to pay me for me to reply to

02:55:52.880 their dm okay so before i'll even reply okay and you you uh had a simp fund a car so you paid for

02:56:01.940 the whole car no that was not just one simp that funded the car oh okay yeah do your parents know

02:56:08.400 you do this yes are your parents still together uh no do you have siblings no uh is one of them

02:56:15.820 not alive or one of my parents what well i asked if your parents are still together and you said

02:56:24.220 no but oh no my mom is the only one who's like in the picture so okay were your parents married

02:56:30.840 no okay um your mom both your parents know about it though i do i don't think that my

02:56:38.820 father knows about it your mom knows yes is she supportive yeah she was asking how to get started

02:56:44.300 yikes yikes what's the most significant relationship you've had with a man

02:56:50.980 huh me i said what's the most significant relationship because if your dad's not in

02:56:56.660 the picture like do you have any other people in your life you've had a three-year relationship

02:57:01.880 correct yeah oh not with a man oh that but are you do you mean just men in general father like

02:57:08.480 family any any male person not a sexual not a romantic yeah i mean i had my uncle growing up

02:57:17.360 we were really close um so okay your mom wants to also start doing sex work sure if you if you 1.00

02:57:25.000 do believe that fandom is sex work it is sex work okay and you're entitled to believe that then yes

02:57:30.240 well it's not just that i'm entitled to believe it it's factually correct i thought you said it's

02:57:34.220 sexual kink well it's a it's a kink but i also don't believe that all kinks are sexual

02:57:40.060 but it's providing sexual gratification it might be so people are paying you to be sexually 0.95

02:57:48.880 gratified which means it's sex i'm prepared to make the argument that let's say uh even granting

02:57:55.800 your we need to swap that chair get you guys need to be checking the chairs can can you get her 1.00

02:58:01.080 a non-squeaker please um okay so let's say that 80 of your clientele 0.99

02:58:09.240 it is non-sexual let's grant it it's non-sexual but even 20 of them are deriving sexual gratification

02:58:17.220 from it even if the minority of your clientele uh are deriving the sexual gratification

02:58:23.120 you're a sex worker okay now uh you also write that uh do you have a man running your accounts

02:58:33.460 or is it you it's me do you have a manager no okay um what was your most recent post about 0.99

02:58:41.660 i don't know i post on there all the time have tiffany do it 0.99

02:58:48.260 uh like can you verbalize some of the like the way you do fin dom can you verbalize it

02:58:57.460 yeah um the way i do fin dom i mean i just post it's not that complicated guys it's not that

02:59:03.840 complicated uh i post selfies i post like little little video clips like on x just

02:59:13.960 just uh saying like fin dom triggers usually um which are just can you yeah can you give us

02:59:21.340 examples yeah uh just things like send me money for coffee send me um you were born to be my

02:59:30.040 wallet like things like that and um i mean i a lot of subs send me money and then don't like 0.99

02:59:40.380 don't even try to dm me they just send me money you uh you use some hashtags in one of your posts 0.97

02:59:46.760 that i saw sph which stands for small penis humiliation so you humiliate men who have small 0.99

02:59:53.300 penises note the women laughing here like i don't know how most of you would feel if for example i 0.99

02:59:59.000 did fin dom and i humiliated women for having small boobs if it's you would probably they want 1.00

03:00:04.480 it no but even hold on even if it was consensual i think most of you would have some degree of 0.91

03:00:09.180 like objection to me humiliating women who have small breasts i've been teased my whole life for

03:00:14.840 having small breasts right then that's wrong yeah okay okay i don't think that's okay to do okay

03:00:20.540 but are you saying in a consensual way too that we would have a problem if if like you were doing

03:00:25.600 i think i do think women would have a greater objection to a man even consensually uh humiliating

03:00:35.580 a woman consensually for her small breasts uh as as compared to humiliating a man who has a small 0.87

03:00:42.600 penis i think that would be true but i don't think all women would agree with that i think 0.98

03:00:49.280 that if a woman is not maybe experienced with kinks and maybe she doesn't have any kinks of 1.00

03:00:55.980 her own i think if you do have kinks then you can have some degree of understanding give us some of

03:01:03.340 the lingo you said there's like findum terms lingo can you just give us like three or four

03:01:08.000 wallet human atm 0.66

03:01:13.720 cash slut yeah i wrote some down pay pigs you said uh in some of your posts this is what you wrote 0.99

03:01:24.700 i'm only gonna use you go into debt for me drain their pockets two more victims you you have a 0.99

03:01:32.500 subduing DoorDash orders just to send all of it to you. You wrote, you really don't care if you're

03:01:40.600 in debt. Go further for me. You like your ATMs obedient. So you refer to men as ATMs. You're

03:01:47.880 fine draining their pockets. You want them to go into debt for you. You don't care if they go into

03:01:52.820 debt for you. When it comes to consent, this is actual harm that's befalling these men if they

03:02:00.360 are in fact going into debt to fulfill this sexual canker gratification that that can be true but

03:02:07.180 honestly a lot of them aren't actually going into debt there's a lot that literally lie about how 0.94

03:02:13.660 much money they have but they have the fantasy of going into debt and they want that fantasy played

03:02:19.220 out can something can someone consent to something and it still be wrong it depends it completely

03:02:27.480 depends on the situation so like what if a what if a 20 year old woman is dating a 40 year old man

03:02:40.040 it's consensual but do you think there's something wrong with that are you super cool with it

03:02:44.360 it's not my right to say anything i think it's not very dependent on the people i think it's

03:02:50.200 very dependent on the people and it's dependent on what they're do you think a 20 year old girl

03:02:54.760 can consent to being with a 40 year old man she's an adult yeah okay yes fair enough consistent i 0.94

03:03:01.500 guess you also wrote about pay pigs you show nothing so you don't do nudity no even if a

03:03:07.400 guy offered you like 500 bucks to send no i know no i have been offered uh they beg to pay for your

03:03:13.880 nails makeup trips uh you have had vacations completely funded by men you've done it for

03:03:20.300 years now that you say you've made thousands and thousands of dollars bullying men yes how much

03:03:25.420 would you say you've made in total um i've been doing it like on and off for like a couple years

03:03:31.720 yeah uh you started doing it at 18 though yeah yeah uh i saw a tiktok video you said a new sub

03:03:41.420 approached you and already sent you three thousand dollars i don't actually believe you okay like

03:03:49.200 look maybe it happens i personally i just don't get it so those are actually called whale subs

03:03:57.360 and they will pop up once in a blue moon i just don't understand like the i mean maybe the fin 0.72

03:04:05.900 dumb component is different but the sugar daddy guys where it's not necessarily fin dumb like 0.98

03:04:11.500 you could just get not that i think men should do this and i find it disgusting but 1.00

03:04:16.940 prostitutes don't cost three thousand dollars like you could just fuck a woman for like a 1.00

03:04:22.960 couple hundred bucks not that you should that's fucking disgusting the it's gross right but i 1.00

03:04:29.480 don't understand like these men who just like sugar daddy and give these women all that and 1.00

03:04:34.640 it's they just want sex from these women but like you why would you spend x on the whole thing 1.00

03:04:41.700 doesn't make sense i don't understand the sugar daddy situation either to be honest may i is that

03:04:47.120 sure so i think that from what is said men have a lot of risk when they come forward to try to

03:04:57.460 talk to women these days a lot of times they called misogynistic just for approaching a woman

03:05:02.640 so a lot of times it is safer unfortunately for an unhealed man to skip to minute 211 or to pay

03:05:11.680 someone that they don't have to risk being accused things by or they don't have to risk

03:05:16.760 anything unsafe or being painted at a certain light and that's really sad and it's not okay

03:05:21.380 and it's definitely preying on a weakness because men societally do not have an okay space to come

03:05:28.160 forward with anything happening to them and that's i think okay a probable reason uh we have

03:05:34.020 tyler farrell here no breakfast no brains the capybara in red and wednesday adams next to her 0.66

03:05:39.680 are retarded stream okay great music whatever in the wilson's are goaded uh hey thank you very 0.86

03:05:48.120 much for the uh super chat man really appreciate it thank you tyler uh okay well um that's

03:05:55.320 interesting uh yeah the findom stuff i don't know i uh not a not a fan of it

03:06:04.200 uh going to your notes maya hopefully uh you had some not so nice words i think directed towards

03:06:13.320 rachel wilson or andrew wilson so you wrote that uh as one of your disagreements you think

03:06:22.140 considering who his wife is and how she has uh multiple or he has she has multiple baby mama's 1.00

03:06:30.760 daddies whatever you think his views his views are hypocritical well i would assume that your

03:06:37.160 view is being a christian woman would be that you're supposed to be with one partner for life

03:06:40.640 and you have your kids and you make your big happy family but to my understanding you have

03:06:43.820 multiple baby daddies and you have had multiple relationships yes so you probably heard a bunch

03:06:50.100 of stuff on the internet i did then that's what i mean that's what i heard that's correct okay

03:06:54.960 what do you think a baby daddy is someone that you are no longer with who you have a child with

03:06:59.800 because when people say baby daddy i'm thinking like a rando that you have a kid with not somebody

03:07:06.300 you were married to is somebody who you were married to a baby what would you what would 0.61

03:07:09.880 you consider him now that you're not together an ex-husband but what about the father of your

03:07:15.160 children i still yeah i still think it's baby daddy okay but would would it be wrong why are

03:07:23.000 you assuming that it's wrong that i had kids with somebody i'm absolutely not assuming it's wrong i

03:07:27.500 my understanding just from based on what you have said and what i've seen your husband's day

03:07:31.440 that you would be in the position that you are supposed to be with one person only yes you are

03:07:35.700 absolutely you're supposed to be yeah but sometimes people abandon you and sometimes they

03:07:41.320 actually physically abuse you yeah and in that case you don't really have a choice yeah so

03:07:47.300 so is it wrong if that happened to me and then i come out and say i still believe that you should

03:07:56.120 be married okay so i have a question okay so if you feel that way you don't have a choice because

03:08:04.260 he physically abused you which i'm sorry what about women who were raped and want to have an 0.95

03:08:10.300 abortion uh it still doesn't make it okay to kill another human being because the the person who was

03:08:16.500 conceived is not the person who did the crime right so it's such a low percentage what if it

03:08:21.260 was like their dad or their brother or something and there's a very high chance that that baby will

03:08:25.040 have genetic issues actually so i've done some research on that the odds of you having like

03:08:30.860 actual genetic problems from one generation of incest is very very very low um it usually only

03:08:36.860 happens after multiple generations so like a lot of the islamic world has a lot of genetic problems 1.00

03:08:42.220 because they've had first cousin marriages for multiple multiple generations so the odds of that

03:08:47.820 happening would be extremely low just because there's an odd a chance that a baby might have

03:08:52.100 a genetic problem is also not a reason to kill it. Do you think that, so you think a woman that 1.00

03:08:58.720 has been raped gets pregnant, she should have to bring that baby to term. What about, she brings 1.00

03:09:02.280 the baby to term, has the baby, and she can't even look at that baby. She is so sad. It just

03:09:06.720 reminds her of what happened to everybody. And if you guys have adopted kids, why do you think

03:09:11.400 everyone should just adopt? Well, actually everybody can adopt. Did you know that there's

03:09:15.240 a waiting list of people who are waiting for newborns? Newborn babies always, always get

03:09:21.120 adopted i just feel like the the the mother's right should come first to be able to kill someone 0.88

03:09:26.980 and i don't do you know anybody that's been raped okay i've got a great hypothetical to test your

03:09:31.640 logic on this so you might have heard that uh they're expecting we could have artificial

03:09:36.380 wombs in the future right what are artificial wounds literally an artificial womb oh womb

03:09:41.580 no artificial wombs so they're saying maybe within the next 10 years so let's say they have 1.00

03:09:48.420 artificial wombs and a woman goes uh to get an abortion and the abortion doctor says great news 1.00

03:09:54.820 we now have another option we can transplant this fetus into an artificial womb where it can come 0.99

03:10:00.980 be grown to term and then be adopted out by someone else would you like to do that great

03:10:06.580 if you think if i was in that situation but do you still think we should have legal abortion

03:10:12.820 if that option became available i think it's very situational like what would be a reason

03:10:18.980 to still kill the baby multiple generations of inbreeding or that wasn't the situation

03:10:25.180 barring the most bizarre freaking outlier of multi-generational inbreeding okay just

03:10:31.480 any other because you know the vast vast vast majority of abortions are just elective and

03:10:36.740 just because of reasons like i don't have the money or it's not a good time for me

03:10:39.760 so if there was an option to transplant the fetus into an artificial womb do you guys both of you

03:10:46.880 guys who are pro-choice do you think we should still have legal abortion i think i would have

03:10:51.580 to think about that i've i've never heard of that but i would have to think on that but i do think

03:10:55.720 abortion should never be used as a form of birth control if you're having consensual sex and

03:10:59.960 consistently getting pregnant and consistently going and getting abortions that's not okay but

03:11:05.300 i think abortion should be available to the people who have been raped or people that

03:11:08.440 I like how physically detrimental to their body to have a baby I think they should have an issue

03:11:14.240 they should have a reason to but if someone is in there five times in a month getting abortions 1.00

03:11:18.800 I know that wouldn't happen but like okay what about you what do you think if there's an artificial

03:11:23.840 womb option and we can just transplant the fetus it can be born at full term and adopt it out 1.00

03:11:28.840 should we still have abortion rights should you still be able to abort it anyway 1.00

03:11:32.680 is that what's the cost of this it's free no cost it's free what i would what i would

03:11:42.480 personally do is i would of course like put it in the artificial but do you think that

03:11:48.520 women should still have a legal option to terminate the fetus 1.00

03:11:51.960 well how would the procedure look it would just be like um let's say it well it probably

03:12:02.440 wouldn't even be like a full c-section just yeah i know about that sort of thing it would depend on

03:12:06.420 the age too but let's say that there was a way that they could do it endoscopically so you don't

03:12:11.120 even have to have a big scar it's just a tiny incision they can endoscopically go in just like

03:12:15.660 they would to do genetic testing on a fetus they can just remove it place it in an artificial womb 1.00

03:12:20.960 and does the woman have any responsibility no no legal or moral responsibility i might have to

03:12:31.000 think about that a little bit more but that sounds like a good solution okay i was curious what you

03:12:36.980 might say to that because i've asked other women that question and they'll still emphatically say

03:12:41.460 that we need to have the right to just kill it because i and this one girl told me i don't want 0.97

03:12:47.580 some person with half my dna walking around out there it's it's my right to kill that person 0.99

03:12:53.260 and and what i think that's not hot yeah that's not that's not controlling can we tie her tubes 1.00

03:13:00.220 i don't see i don't see a fetus as a human being like i don't i know they're a human i know they're

03:13:06.620 yeah but i don't see them as like would you be okay with a cat having an abortion yeah absolutely

03:13:10.960 a cat yeah they do that sometimes but it's just like expensive like if a cat has an abortion a

03:13:15.660 cat actually is pregnant absolutely a cat can have an abortion well what what i think this question

03:13:19.980 kind of proved to me is that both of you when given the option to just not have the responsibility

03:13:25.700 not be a mother not go through the pregnancy and the birth you did recognize that there's

03:13:31.300 something of value there that should be saved i said i need to think about okay but you did not

03:13:36.020 just immediately say oh it's just a clump of cells why would i even bother you paused and said i

03:13:41.420 probably would so that tells me that something in your mind knows that there's something in there

03:13:46.760 of inherent value so me personally that's not really where i was what i was thinking i was

03:13:54.840 thinking more so that there are women who do struggle when they get an abortion they struggle

03:14:01.700 with the decision it's not just like something they take lightly i think that it would help a

03:14:07.160 lot of women who don't want the baby don't like do don't want to go through the pregnancy any of 1.00

03:14:13.540 that, I think it would help them to be able to do something like that. Yeah. But, but doesn't that

03:14:19.040 also prove that maybe there's something of inherent value there. Maybe it's a human life and maybe that

03:14:24.880 means something. Maybe it's, maybe I can't just dismiss it. Like the clump of cells thing worked

03:14:30.420 when I was a kid, before we had 3d and 4d imaging of, of fetuses and embryos and things where people

03:14:37.140 could see what is in there and that it looks human, that it moves and that it has a heartbeat

03:14:42.340 in a circulatory system, even at six weeks old, I don't think the clump of cells works anymore.

03:14:48.240 Everyone knows it's not just a clump of cells. I think I have my answer on that. I think the

03:14:52.720 woman should always still have the right to choose if she wants to. If that hypothetical does come 1.00

03:14:58.740 into play and there is an artificial womb, I think the woman should still have the right to 1.00

03:15:02.720 choose if she wants an abortion or not, but I think it should be circumstantial. So if like a 1.00

03:15:06.580 woman was raped or there was incest involved, then she can choose to abort it. But if it's someone

03:15:11.780 just coming in because they got pregnant just on a whim then they should have to put it into the 0.98

03:15:15.560 artificial womb and okay why because i feel like the emotional damage of knowing that someone who

03:15:21.820 raped you has no no no i'm saying why in the case of we for the sake of the conversation i'll just

03:15:28.800 grant rape and incest okay we're talking about everybody else elective abortion so why should 0.92

03:15:34.860 somebody just going in for an elective abortion have to choose the artificial womb option because 1.00

03:15:39.480 that is their oh and like that was their fault but if it's just a clump of cells it's not even

03:15:45.360 a person it's just tissue why do we care why bother i mean if that's if that's the argument

03:15:52.660 i would say she should also have the right to abort i think a woman should just they should 1.00

03:15:55.500 well that's your that was what you initially had first said so are you rethinking the whole it's

03:16:00.460 just i do i do think it's just a compass tissue then why would you why would you say she has to

03:16:05.860 choose the artificial womb option i don't know because i don't think she should have been pregnant 1.00

03:16:10.060 in the first place there's something in your mind that's conflicted there's something in your mind

03:16:14.360 pulling you in two separate directions i think my whole stance on abortion isn't necessarily about

03:16:18.880 like is it a clump of cells or is it a fetus it's more of it's a woman's body and she should have a 1.00

03:16:22.720 right to choose with what she wants it's not about like if she what if the fetus is a woman 0.99

03:16:27.100 what woman doesn't have what woman in 2026 doesn't know how to avoid getting pregnant 0.99

03:16:34.580 no they all do yeah so so they did choose they did have the right to choose and they chose to

03:16:39.940 risk it and then they got pregnant so why should they be allowed to kill a live human being even 0.99

03:16:45.320 if you personally don't think it's a person because it's not a human being it is a human

03:16:52.140 it's a human fetus human means homo sapiens it means the species human you're human everyone

03:16:59.980 here is human okay it's a human so it's you can't say it's not human choose a different word it's

03:17:06.540 not it's not formed it's not it like i i don't know how i don't know much about abortions in

03:17:11.760 general but depending on how fully developed the baby is that's one thing but if it's like okay so

03:17:16.300 you've been pregnant for a week like that's are you saying that is a that is a human being it's 0.96

03:17:21.820 a living human being definitionally and biologically you can't disagree that's a fact

03:17:26.940 that's like me saying this is a white table and you're going i disagree yeah it is definitionally

03:17:32.400 a living human being so what is it that makes it okay to kill it because it's not conscious

03:17:38.420 it's not it like but if it's consciousness so we're gonna walk through this it's not conscious

03:17:44.040 what's what's the better word for it like yeah i'm not conscious but like their brain like they

03:17:49.980 don't have i don't think babies are in the womb that like when they're just at that stage they're

03:17:53.800 not for forming thoughts they're not like they could recognize their mother's voice i don't at

03:17:58.660 one week two weeks you think that they're well first of all i unless i think you can only take

03:18:04.080 the pill up until like at eight weeks i don't think you can have the surgical option until

03:18:08.920 at least eight weeks if i remember correctly but uh okay if it's just that it's not conscious 0.55

03:18:15.760 and it can't form thoughts once again somebody in a coma they we should be allowed to just kill

03:18:22.120 him if i'm a caretaker they had a whole life though so my husband was in a car accident he

03:18:26.840 is now in a coma he's in my home i have to like change his you know iv bag i have to change his 0.99

03:18:33.780 tube i have to take care of him but he's unconscious why can't i just kill him because 0.89

03:18:38.300 he had a life ahead of that and you've known him loved him so why does that mean that because what 0.96

03:18:43.780 does that have to do with whether or not it's okay to kill a human being he's been alive and i so i

03:18:49.040 the baby has also been alive it's not though it is alive it maybe it hasn't so you think you have

03:18:57.200 to have experiences do you when does a baby's heart like start beating six weeks six weeks

03:19:02.160 five or six weeks well then why don't we just make it so abortions can't happen for until 1.00

03:19:06.980 almost nobody knows they're pregnant and can get in to get an abortion before six weeks most of 0.78

03:19:13.040 them have to happen after that the only way you can do that is with the abortion pill 0.54

03:19:16.480 well i just think that so so what we've found through this inquiry is that you don't have

03:19:23.540 you have arbitrary metrics based on your feels that's what you have you don't have any like

03:19:29.700 any justified reason for choosing oh this is the criteria of when it's okay to abort and when it's

03:19:35.820 not you're like i just don't think it matters because i just don't i have a question in regards

03:19:40.980 to that, actually. So I am someone that has been in like a crazy accident, you know, a freak

03:19:46.440 accident, one in a million thing. I broke my back. I'm lucky to, I mean, every day I'm grateful and

03:19:52.100 I'm very happy to be alive, but I was supposed to be paralyzed from the waist down. So pregnancy

03:19:57.460 for me, I mean, I obviously, I have an IUD and I am very, very careful, but pregnancy for me is

03:20:03.320 something that could leave me like rendered in a place where I, let's say my nerves decided to,

03:20:10.140 you know, fuck up during my pregnancy and then it leaves me rendered in a wheelchair the rest of my 0.83

03:20:15.040 life. Do you think that that is a, in a case of, you know, where it'd be okay? I wouldn't say it's 0.99

03:20:21.560 okay because you do have the option to just not get pregnant. Like that's always a choice. 0.98

03:20:27.240 Let me, let me, let me give like a really specific case here. I have an IUD, right? Which is over 99%,

03:20:32.240 what is it? Effective, right? But in the rare case that I was to get pregnant or have an even,

03:20:38.200 in a, what is it called, like an optomic pregnancy?

03:20:41.340 Ectopic.

03:20:42.000 So in the case of things like ectopics, that's not a viable pregnancy.

03:20:46.240 The baby can't be.

03:20:47.820 There's only one documented case of, like, an abdominal ectopic pregnancy

03:20:52.060 accidentally making it close to term without the fetus or the mother dying.

03:20:56.340 Okay, well, let's say that it did, you know, regular in the uterus where it's supposed to be,

03:21:01.060 and I still did get pregnant, and even though I've been very careful, you know,

03:21:04.840 let's say it happens, because it does happen.

03:21:06.820 It does.

03:21:07.260 and especially in cases like mine where it would leave me then rendered in a wheelchair for the

03:21:11.740 rest of my life just because i would be well are you certain it would do that because i know there's

03:21:16.640 a chance and i'm not willing to take that chance but that right there and if that's selfish that's

03:21:20.720 okay so then you shouldn't have sex if you're not willing to take that chance a lot of people jump

03:21:25.980 into having sexual relationships and they don't actually understand the risk because if no i do

03:21:31.300 that's why i have an iud and it's very but that's what i'm saying like 99 percent if i were you if

03:21:36.160 you yeah i do want to have a child at some point but i'm planning on just having a surrogate so 0.98

03:21:40.980 well but there's some issues with that too but we don't need to get into that for this

03:21:45.540 but the thing of the thing about those kind of things i've been if i had five dollars for every

03:21:52.200 time i was told by a doctor this is what's wrong with you and they were wrong like i'd be rich

03:21:56.220 i had a doctor tell me after number five that i was never going to be able to lift weights or 0.96

03:22:02.660 walk again and i should just get a walker idiots well they have to tell you things based on um 0.76

03:22:08.460 liability so if there's like the tiniest minuscule chance something could go wrong they will try to 0.98

03:22:13.920 like enforce that to you so that you can't come back and sue them but in my brain like knowing

03:22:18.180 that uh you know we're supposed to trust the doctors right i mean there's a whole bunch of

03:22:22.160 policies with that whole system and everything like that we're not going to get into that but

03:22:25.440 like in my brain i know it's a possibility that it would leave me rendered in a wheelchair

03:22:31.900 so for me that is something that like you know after well i think for the if we were having like

03:22:37.940 a hardcore abortion debate i think it'd be fine to spend time on that but i think for a dating

03:22:41.960 podcast uh taking like the really far outliers i don't know like i was just curious on your views

03:22:47.160 yeah because that's that is my personal view is i would not kill a baby even if there was a risk

03:22:52.300 that i could i mean there's all kinds of risks for healthy normal pregnancies sure absolutely

03:22:56.860 they're they're low they're very low but they do exist and i took the chance you know multiple

03:23:02.340 times so uh you know i had an epidural that went horribly wrong and could have left me paralyzed

03:23:08.280 and luckily it didn't great for me yay but uh i don't know let's see what else do you guys want

03:23:14.580 to talk about does anybody else have a well i wanted to add something real quick because i

03:23:18.340 in my experience i talking from my own experience i did want to abort my son because after

03:23:25.680 subconscious thought, after understanding myself, it was because I was scared to take commitment,

03:23:30.740 to take accountability for actions. I'm a teen mom, had to go to my parents with that, had to tell

03:23:35.140 them, hey, this is what I did. And I was scared. And I didn't admit that I was scared. I wanted to

03:23:40.480 take an easy way out. And for most cases, because great babies are not as statistically, that doesn't

03:23:48.300 happen to the norm of everybody else who are having abortions. And going by, yeah, and going

03:23:53.840 by that statistic a lot of it seems like society just doesn't want to take accountability women

03:23:58.620 who get pregnant don't want to take accountability because yeah because um and this is the argument 0.84

03:24:03.200 i hear that men don't want to take accountability and that's the fault and i'm not saying that you

03:24:08.880 deserve what happens to you i'm not saying that um it was okay but it's still you as the adult

03:24:15.100 making the conscious choice to be in this relationship knowing that you could get

03:24:19.320 pregnant that happens doesn't matter your birth control there are I had birth control after 0.99

03:24:24.560 getting pregnant and I was still talked to about the risk of getting pregnant right after

03:24:28.460 already having a baby there was no the no doctor told me yeah this is going to be fine go ahead

03:24:35.240 have unprotected sex it doesn't you know like you won't have a baby with this in there that's they 0.97

03:24:39.840 they gave me a list of birth controls a list of disclaimers this is not the only thing that will

03:24:45.040 protect you from having a baby is abstinence and no one wants to like really agree with that because

03:24:49.700 of instant gratification i want to have sex and that's fine we're humans we're you know we have 0.68

03:24:54.980 that animal instinct but it's also like the understanding like the whole idea about abortion

03:24:58.820 is the argument of like if it's a baby or if it's not a baby i feel like is useless because the

03:25:05.300 real issue is accountability are you are you somebody that can make a conscious choice and

03:25:11.020 stick to that hey i had sex i got pregnant and now i'm going to do the hard work that's just how it 0.55

03:25:16.740 is because that's your responsibility and we talk about it being women's bodies your choice then you 1.00

03:25:22.640 should already have that choice okay if i'm going to choose to have sex and get pregnant i should 0.95

03:25:28.040 commit to that i was going to ask um raven a question so your moniker online is goddess raven

03:25:35.500 do you actually like believe in like paganism witchcraft anything like that or is it just like a

03:25:40.780 a tagline I actually do believe in witchcraft okay it's actually it's very popular it's actually a

03:25:52.220 very popular thing I've done but you know I've done a bunch of deep dives on it like witch talk

03:25:56.300 look up the hashtag witch talk it's got millions upon millions of hits it's crazy but I believe in 0.99

03:26:01.520 a lot of things actually so I know a lot of women who believe in witchcraft and goddess worship and 1.00

03:26:07.080 like uh nature worship and things like that even a lot of indigenous cultures they actually consider

03:26:12.780 abortion to be like a sacrament like a religious sacrament they do if you go to witch talk you can 0.94

03:26:18.820 find women on tiktok who will show you how to make a religious ritual out of your abortion so i was 0.86

03:26:24.360 just wondering if that's like definitely like not my speed um okay uh we have uh just thought i'd

03:26:32.040 ask hey guys we have it on members only mode i'll take it off members only let's get the likes to

03:26:36.840 we have 10,000 concurrent viewers. Let's get to 5,000 likes. We're at 4,400 likes. Get us to 5,000

03:26:42.940 likes, and we'll open up the chat. So like the video, guys. Also, you know what? We're just

03:26:48.320 going to do a really quick reminder. $10 display, $99 read, $200 TTS. If you want to direct the

03:26:56.300 course of the conversation, you can send in a read, send in a TTS, and you can propose a topic,

03:27:02.800 ask a question so there is that but we have gorlock the destroyer so on a scale of zero to

03:27:10.320 ten yeah on the scale of zero to ten rate your own looks face body total you can't pick seven

03:27:16.560 so when you're responding if you can phrase it something like uh face six body six total six

03:27:24.240 something like that obviously it can it could be face seven or well face six body eight etc etc

03:27:32.200 I'm in the hot seat.

03:27:33.520 Okay.

03:27:34.160 Well, I believe I wrote on my paper seven on the face because, you know, I'm not going to dig into it.

03:27:42.440 Seven on the face.

03:27:44.040 I think I'm a pretty healthy individual, and I gave myself an eight on the body.

03:27:48.340 So we're at a seven and a half total.

03:27:49.980 Okay.

03:27:50.800 I'd say four face, four body.

03:27:53.640 Total?

03:27:54.740 Four.

03:27:55.540 Okay.

03:27:56.100 What about you?

03:27:57.040 Ten face, ten body, ten.

03:28:01.200 okay um what about you um six face eight body so seven

03:28:21.700 all right what about you 10 face 10 body total 10

03:28:27.120 I'm humble. I'll say three face, three body.

03:28:42.120 Okay, that's just being ridiculous. Like you were attractive. 0.87

03:28:46.120 No.

03:28:47.120 You were gorgeous.

03:28:48.120 All right, what about you?

03:28:50.120 Six face, four body.

03:28:52.120 Closer to the mic, please.

03:28:53.120 Six face, four body.

03:28:55.120 total five okay what about you i would say my face it's like a five six my body

03:29:06.360 like a seven i would say i'm a total seven okay rachel uh last time i gave myself fives but i've

03:29:18.400 gotten in much better shape since then so i'm gonna say six face six body total six

03:29:24.340 If you're counting that I'm really old, maybe you could bump me up a half a point for being old.

03:29:29.400 All right.

03:29:29.880 For 45, I'm doing all right.

03:29:32.460 I give myself 4.5, 4.5, 4.5 on all metrics.

03:29:38.720 Well, we're not going to dive deep into everybody's answers, but there's a few that have caught my attention.

03:29:45.880 So we have a 10, a 10, and a 10.

03:29:54.460 You guys, well, hold on, a couple of clarifying questions here.

03:30:01.660 Where do I begin?

03:30:04.080 If you had to assign a percentage, what percentage of women would you say are less attractive than you? 1.00

03:30:11.820 I think all women are 10s. 1.00

03:30:15.880 then it's meaningless

03:30:17.600 it doesn't mean anything

03:30:19.500 it means something to me though

03:30:20.860 I feel like I'm a 10

03:30:22.400 I feel like all women are 10s in different ways 1.00

03:30:24.860 so a way that I'm pretty

03:30:26.560 we're talking about physical attractiveness

03:30:28.620 like look obviously if you add my brains

03:30:31.700 and my amazing personality

03:30:33.140 is Rachel a 10 in your eyes? 0.59

03:30:35.400 I'm incredible

03:30:36.000 is Rachel a 10?

03:30:37.080 I'm kidding

03:30:37.420 are anti-abortionist women 10s? 0.67

03:30:44.020 I can't see

03:30:44.700 I need to see them

03:30:45.820 we're talking about looks here right we're just if we're just talking about looks so you can't

03:30:49.800 meet the person you can't talk to them you're just looking at a picture of their face and body

03:30:53.520 is gorlok the destroyer attend to she is a definitely attend i haven't seen gorlok i have

03:30:59.680 to see them it's not gorlok it's mean well i don't know her name but it's al weasley or something

03:31:06.900 so all women are tens yes are all men tens

03:31:12.360 no right why so why are all women tens and why are not all men tens in my opinion

03:31:23.440 i get that it's your opinion why is it your opinion i i honestly just believe that women 1.00

03:31:31.340 are prettier than men see i kind of feel like i feel like when i'm out walking around in public

03:31:38.020 like i'm just at the grocery store i see a lot especially as people get older when they're

03:31:42.620 younger the the girls might be better looking but we're talking 40s 50s i see a lot of hot dads who 1.00

03:31:47.620 obviously hit the gym and they look pretty dang good and their wife is like heavy and let herself 0.94

03:31:54.860 go and i'm like dang and he's still like rubbing on her and everything and i'm like wow we're lucky

03:32:00.720 men like us a lot you know it's how i feel but so yeah why why is it well how about this

03:32:07.900 are some women more attractive than other women

03:32:12.560 i feel like it depends on who's like to me like can i look at one woman and say i'm more attracted

03:32:23.980 to this woman than the other woman or am i just one's better looking than the other looks more

03:32:30.400 beautiful yeah yeah talking about looks but then that's based on my attraction but sure i mean i

03:32:37.400 can be more attracted to well your attraction aside uh can't you make a determination as to

03:32:44.720 their physical appearance absent attraction but that's but that's kind of like saying like i know

03:32:52.160 that there was there was someone on the podcast that liked like bigger men like there was some

03:32:58.220 there was some girl in the podcast chaser yeah she you know what i mean so it's like an outlier

03:33:03.760 okay yeah it's kind of like it's kind of like all preference based because like she like she could 0.71

03:33:11.340 look at someone who like everyone in here basically could say is more attractive like

03:33:16.600 she could say they're less attractive everyone else could say they're more attractive than the 1.00

03:33:22.560 other person but she still thinks that the other person who's chubbier is more attractive yeah but 0.99

03:33:28.760 let's, let's map that onto like a million people. So are you going to start seeing patterns in terms

03:33:35.820 of assessment? If you say you have a million people, you have a million men and a million

03:33:41.060 women, and you show all those million people, uh, pictures of 10 men and 10 women and say,

03:33:47.480 there are varying attractiveness. Don't you think you would come to like, there's going to be some

03:33:54.020 degree of consensus like yeah maybe the maybe you know this one person gets rates them very high

03:34:01.920 in attractiveness whereas others don't but like um who's a woman who you think is very beautiful

03:34:09.160 there's so many uh olivia rodrigo billy eilish those are just like people in the

03:34:19.600 yeah so yeah sorry do you think that uh do you think that a lot of people would tend to agree

03:34:30.020 with that yes okay so i would agree with that i would agree with that yeah uh okay um i don't

03:34:42.140 understand why looks are so prevalent like why as a society do we care about what people look

03:34:47.400 like surrounding us like that's the basis of attraction i know but i don't that's not my

03:34:51.920 basis of attraction i don't care what someone looks like like if i really i really don't i'm

03:34:57.120 friends with sam like i don't look oriented i won't i wouldn't date anyone this doesn't matter

03:35:02.920 but i just i look at people are you like asexual like you don't have no no no i'll go out so you 0.83

03:35:08.260 have attraction i have attraction absolutely there's absolutely attraction i don't think it

03:35:12.020 If you have a choice between a five foot four bald guy with terrible acne and a six foot two, like, athletic looking Chad, like, which one are you going to say is better looking?

03:35:25.780 Well, they're better looking, but why does it, like, matter?

03:35:28.940 What do you mean, why does it matter?

03:35:29.960 I don't understand why does it matter what people look like.

03:35:32.580 Because you're going to pursue the people you think are better looking.

03:35:35.840 I would pursue the one that has a better personality and I feel like I would be safe with.

03:35:38.960 Yeah, that's total code.

03:35:39.860 No, what happens is they have to pass the looks test for you to be attracted first.

03:35:44.560 To a certain degree, yeah.

03:35:45.160 Then you choose based on personality.

03:35:46.740 I disagree with that.

03:35:47.320 There is no woman on planet Earth who is filtering potential mates based on personality first and looks later. 1.00

03:35:53.580 I do.

03:35:53.760 That's just a lie.

03:35:55.040 I do.

03:35:55.900 That's a baloney.

03:35:56.720 Well, if you're after girls, that's kind of different.

03:35:59.500 Wait, can I ask a question?

03:36:00.480 You already have, like, a disordered attraction.

03:36:02.960 No, I don't.

03:36:03.380 I know you.

03:36:04.060 Yeah.

03:36:04.480 That's your opinion.

03:36:05.520 Being attracted to the same sex is disordered attraction. 0.99

03:36:08.440 Why do you care?

03:36:09.200 No, it is not.

03:36:09.720 yes it is hold on go ahead sorry um i know you're not interested in dating but if you

03:36:16.900 just feeling yourself wanting to go out and get just a little right how would you do that i don't

03:36:26.200 usually do that but if i were to do that i don't know like would you go to a bar or a dating app

03:36:33.460 i wouldn't go to a dating app definitely not but if i ran into someone when i was out

03:36:37.040 baby so how do you know anything about their personality well i would never sleep with someone 0.82

03:36:43.840 the first night i met them i would absolutely never do that if they asked for like my instagram

03:36:47.320 or my phone number or something and we talked and hung out a little bit and then something

03:36:50.360 happened that's one thing but i i have never i have never slept with someone the first night i

03:36:56.500 met them i will put that on my dog who i love so dearly i will put that on my father on my brother

03:37:01.520 I have never slept with someone the first time I met.

03:37:03.180 But is it not wrong to say that the likelihood of you giving an individual your contact information

03:37:10.100 is likely because they were visually attractive before you got to hear what they said?

03:37:15.220 I have never turned to anyone.

03:37:16.560 Anyone who has asked to have my number or contact at any time, I have never said no to them.

03:37:21.380 The amount that I will respond to them is a different story.

03:37:25.080 But if someone gets my number and then is just texting all day, every day, trying to get my attention,

03:37:29.620 I will not respond to them.

03:37:30.180 So a man's looks hold no weight for you.

03:37:34.640 It doesn't matter whatsoever.

03:37:36.120 That's not what I'm saying.

03:37:37.120 I'm saying like.

03:37:38.040 But so why are you at?

03:37:38.920 I don't know.

03:37:39.980 I would just say as a.

03:37:41.000 It's self-defeating.

03:37:42.520 So you do.

03:37:43.220 He just wants to be contrarian.

03:37:44.360 You were asking why does it matter?

03:37:46.980 You know yourself because you just admitted that you care about looks.

03:37:51.240 Yes.

03:37:51.860 But I was more saying why does that?

03:37:53.460 I was saying in the context of like society and people, why does it matter what people look like?

03:37:58.000 That's why.

03:37:58.500 Why does it matter?

03:37:59.180 Because we all choose who we're going to make babies with. 0.99

03:38:02.380 If someone's ugly, they're just like chopped liver. 0.99

03:38:04.460 They're just terrible, right? 0.99

03:38:05.640 Is that a good thing?

03:38:06.080 Well, no, threes match with threes, and sixes match with sixes, generally.

03:38:10.380 Generally.

03:38:11.000 But now we have this problem where all the women all think they're tens. 1.00

03:38:13.800 So they look at dudes who are their looks match, and they're like,

03:38:16.960 ew, he's not good enough for me.

03:38:18.800 I'm a ten, and he's only a seven.

03:38:20.660 It's like, in reality, she's probably a five.

03:38:24.000 She's probably average, and she's dismissing average guys

03:38:27.600 because she thinks she's a ten.

03:38:29.180 i personally would rather date a confident average looking guy versus the who's that because

03:38:36.540 the average guy is going to treat you better i think not all not all across the board i think

03:38:42.180 there's some truth to that when men have all their options open um and i think the guy that thinks oh

03:38:48.160 my gosh how did i get her attention i'm the luckiest guy in the world if a guy thinks like

03:38:52.440 that those relationships simps make my ovaries retreat so i do like a guy who i mean

03:38:58.720 I like a guy who I feel is like

03:39:00.660 I feel like my husband's just a little bit out of my league

03:39:03.480 I feel like I'm punching up a little bit

03:39:05.700 I feel like one day

03:39:07.520 He's going to wake up and be like

03:39:08.640 This is not the wife I ordered 1.00

03:39:10.380 They gave me a different wife 1.00

03:39:11.620 I ordered the eight

03:39:13.180 And I'm just going to ride it until he figures that out

03:39:16.660 I would have rated you higher than you rated yourself

03:39:18.740 Well thanks

03:39:19.220 He rates me higher than that too

03:39:20.940 You have a TTS here 0.99

03:39:22.940 You have your boobs hanging out 0.99

03:39:26.900 And you're all made up 0.99

03:39:28.240 And you don't know why looks matter. 1.00

03:39:30.700 Oh, shut up. 0.99

03:39:31.660 I have no makeup on. 1.00

03:39:32.840 Rachel, you're awesome.

03:39:34.120 Thank you.

03:39:34.860 I have no makeup on, and my hair is up in two, I don't know how I'm all done up. 0.85

03:39:40.040 I have boobs.

03:39:40.980 They're going to be out. 0.99

03:39:42.080 Your outfit says, look here, not here. 0.99

03:39:47.280 She just has boobs. 1.00

03:39:48.560 If she didn't also have boobs. 1.00

03:39:51.280 Her shirt's the same as mine. 0.99

03:39:52.760 Okay, but she has boobs. 1.00

03:39:54.920 She has boobs. 1.00

03:39:55.960 Her shirt's the same as mine. 0.99

03:39:57.780 My shirt is not the same as yours. 0.98

03:39:58.980 Not as base, but you don't have boobs. 1.00

03:40:00.400 If my boobs were in that shirt, it would look the same. 0.89

03:40:01.320 Even if I had boobs, it's completely different respect. 0.88

03:40:04.180 Like, absolutely not.

03:40:05.120 I just choose to wear shirts like that because I know my body.

03:40:09.020 You know, I hear this cope about, like, I'm a busty girl, too.

03:40:12.340 I haven't been my whole life.

03:40:13.200 Even when I was 117 pounds, I had biggins, okay?

03:40:16.300 But, yeah, little tank tops look sluttier on me than they do on my sister, 0.99

03:40:20.740 who's got little boobs. 1.00

03:40:22.060 That's life, you know? 0.99

03:40:23.460 So if you got biggins, you need more coverage. 0.80

03:40:25.960 That's how that goes.

03:40:26.740 We have a chat here from OnlyJokers.

03:40:30.220 After watching for a while the Libby in the Corner, 0.99

03:40:32.680 for men to suck so bad, 1.00

03:40:33.700 you sure have a very comfortable life because of men. 1.00

03:40:36.680 And ironically, your whole life and well-being

03:40:38.660 is centered around men.

03:40:40.220 Do you want to do a response to that?

03:40:43.700 As it should be.

03:40:45.640 Oh, okay.

03:40:47.600 So men should just give you stuff. 1.00

03:40:50.800 Yes.

03:40:51.380 Why?

03:40:52.760 Because I deserve it.

03:40:54.240 Why?

03:40:54.560 because i want it because you exist and you want it yes you don't think that's actually narcissistic 1.00

03:41:01.560 you can call it narcissistic it's entitlement so you're a psychopath so you're a psychopath 0.98

03:41:07.100 do you think that narcissism and entitlement is like fine and you're cool with it and you 0.99

03:41:11.120 think that's good trying to diagnose me with a actual mental health disorder maybe okay we can

03:41:17.760 take that up do you have yeah do you have no i am not no i don't have anti-social personality

03:41:23.920 well have you been diagnosed with anything no don't take any psych meds or anything no no anxiety

03:41:30.900 or no she seems actually narcissistic because she seems super comfortable like hating men

03:41:37.220 taking advantage of them uh she thinks that narcissistic sociopathy is fine but she's worried

03:41:42.600 about men and how they talk about women you realize these things don't make sense in fact

03:41:47.560 it seems more like you're playing a character maybe to support your fin dom grift you know 0.98

03:41:53.780 what i actually think it's completely genuine i think she thinks i think she thinks men are trash 0.99

03:41:59.120 i think she thinks men suck uh and she's comfortable may i ask her a question quick 0.97

03:42:04.820 yeah if if um a woman and she was an attractive woman came on your fin dom and she wanted to 1.00

03:42:10.320 you know do these humiliating things it's a good question would you do it since you

03:42:16.180 you know hate men and love women so i've actually had fem subs like i've actually had females send 0.53

03:42:23.640 me money before um I've never had I've never had a female actually want to be humiliated per se 1.00

03:42:35.420 by me like I've never gotten like specific requests like that but I have had like girls

03:42:41.940 send me for coffee and just like little things and stuff the sisterhood is there any point though 0.95

03:42:49.260 No, like, no, like, there are female subs. 1.00

03:42:54.140 Well, I do got to bring it back to the topic we were discussing, which is the looks rating thing here.

03:42:58.740 So, all men are tens. 0.95

03:43:01.000 Or, sorry, excuse me.

03:43:02.580 You think all women are tens, but not all men are tens.

03:43:07.220 Yes.

03:43:07.900 That's interesting how that works.

03:43:10.540 Are there any men who are more attractive than women?

03:43:17.200 Like, conventionally, yes.

03:43:19.260 But I'm confused.

03:43:20.220 If all women are tens, but not all men are tens.

03:43:23.040 Not all men are tens.

03:43:24.740 Some men are tens, but if some men are tens and all women are tens, 0.68

03:43:30.520 maybe there's a man who's just as good looking as a woman, 1.00

03:43:32.880 but it wouldn't be possible for a man to ever be better looking than a woman

03:43:36.040 from your perspective.

03:43:37.580 Yeah, I think it's just like I'm looking at it in a different way.

03:43:40.300 I think all women are tens just based on, like, not conventionally, 1.00

03:43:46.600 not because of conventional attractiveness.

03:43:49.260 just because like all women are beautiful in different ways like not all men are beautiful

03:43:55.780 in different ways yeah i guess all men can be beautiful in different ways but is it possible

03:44:03.460 for a man to ever be more attractive than a woman conventionally yes but but to but well 1.00

03:44:13.320 non-conventionally no not really i mean so it's impossible for a man to non-conventionally be

03:44:21.820 more attractive than a woman well there's there's men that like a lot of straight women will say are 0.56

03:44:29.320 just like the hottest and they're they're usually really tall like they're built they're like they

03:44:36.480 they look very similar like sure uh most women would come to a consensus on the fact that that 0.72

03:44:46.540 man is like attractive for me personally I probably wouldn't see that man as being that

03:44:54.960 attractive but I can still I still know that most women would say that that's a conventionally

03:45:02.020 attractive man. Going to you, you also gave yourself a 10. Do you think all women are 10s? 1.00

03:45:11.820 I think that all women believe what they want to believe based on societal conditions. The reason 1.00

03:45:18.200 I gave my 10 was because of my own delusion in myself. I feel like if I have to see myself as

03:45:25.380 the best for anyone else to love me unconditionally, because if I don't unconditionally,

03:45:31.660 hold on if I don't unconditionally love myself because I'm not rating myself based on what you

03:45:37.000 said conventional society standards I'm rating on myself on how I see myself in the mirror and

03:45:42.260 that's usually not everybody else's 10 but that's my 10 and if I don't see myself with this

03:45:47.580 unconditional love I can't expect to find that in a partner if I don't see myself as a 10 then I

03:45:53.060 don't know if my partner would also see me as a 10 regardless of conventional standards that

03:45:59.860 sounded great like self-help stuff but i will say first of all i don't think in romantic

03:46:05.080 relationships there's any such thing as unconditional love all romantic relationships

03:46:09.900 are conditional if my husband tomorrow stopped acting like the man he's always acted like and 0.97

03:46:15.020 started acting like some kind of jerk to me i don't think i'd love him as much you know what 0.93

03:46:19.980 i mean and same thing if i started treating him badly or if i cheated on him or something i don't 0.97

03:46:24.300 think he loved me as much either. And, um, me understanding and acknowledging that I am an

03:46:30.820 average looking woman. I'm, I'm not, I don't walk down the street and people like, Oh my God,

03:46:35.920 who is that woman? That's, they're like, Oh, there goes a normal looking way. Yeah. You know, 1.00

03:46:41.400 that's an ego driven decision. My delusion is fed on my own. Like you said, self-help and my

03:46:45.900 own confidence in myself. Okay. But if you think this way and expect other people to look at you

03:46:51.560 with the conventional standard, if you think you're better than everyone else and expect

03:46:55.480 to get a exceptional level of, um, of a man because of how you look, I think that has a

03:47:03.360 lot to do with your own ego and not reality of yourself. If you say, Hey, I'm confident in my

03:47:08.380 body. I know for a fact that in society standards, I would not be considered a 10, but if I can walk

03:47:15.260 in this world and consider myself a 10, I'm walking confident. And I know that my confidence

03:47:20.180 we'll see we'll be more attractive the way i think i'm a very confident person i don't i don't know

03:47:24.560 yeah i don't know if that comes across at all but i i'm confident but my confidence isn't based on

03:47:30.180 me having to tell myself that i am a 10 looks wise or that i'm the prettiest girl in the room

03:47:35.840 or something like that i can say i'm average looking and as a total package i think uh there's

03:47:41.780 a lot of reasons a guy would want to be with me and i could probably get a pretty good guy for

03:47:45.300 myself. Let's test this out though. So using your framework of you think that if you have this

03:47:53.080 confidence that that is going to be magnetic and that is going to enable you to get higher quality

03:48:01.220 men, more top tier men, more attractive men. Let me propose this. A morbidly obese woman who has 1.00

03:48:09.280 perhaps the most confidence in the world she and it's true she genuinely believes that she's

03:48:17.740 a thousand times more delusional than you she she has an aura to her she's so confident she's so

03:48:26.640 has such strong belief in her she weighs 500 pounds versus i could i could also put her in a 0.98

03:48:34.040 room next to the most physically beautiful woman you've ever seen but she's deeply insecure 1.00

03:48:40.400 or just really humble about it maybe yeah but she's just very insecure and she nitpicks her 1.00

03:48:46.300 looks and stuff is it your belief that the 500 pound woman's aura supersedes the palpable

03:48:58.000 jaw-dropping beauty of this woman and she that 500 pound woman would out compete the 1.00

03:49:08.000 beautiful model when it comes to dating no i don't believe so and that's my point is that

03:49:14.480 i don't that was your point wasn't it no my point is that i believe that my own attraction has to

03:49:20.480 come from myself and my confidence and not being humbled and seeing yourself as a 10 for yourself

03:49:26.480 can be true both those things can be true if you are ego driven if this delusional person was like

03:49:33.260 looking at this model right and said no for a fact i could get more men than you if we're going by 0.99

03:49:40.100 that hypothetical then i feel like they haven't done the reflection of society because this is

03:49:46.060 the world and this is society and society does base a lot of their wants on attraction on physical

03:49:52.560 attraction we are human we see and we want and um a lot of people disregard the fact that

03:49:59.700 even though you can be like in very confident in yourself disregard the way of the world

03:50:06.100 this is this is completely contrary to what you just said earlier which was if i have this

03:50:12.420 confidence and i'm moving through the world that's going to enable me to attract uh

03:50:17.480 better men essentially isn't that is that not what you said i guess i misspoke because it wasn't

03:50:23.900 better men but i i feel like what i how i see myself is reflected in other people if i see 0.88

03:50:31.800 myself as a piece of shit looking person i don't expect my partner to see me as this most amazing 0.98

03:50:39.500 beautiful person i don't expect that because if i see myself as a piece of shit subconsciously 0.99

03:50:44.140 they're not going to see me as beautiful either but don't you think it's equally delusional so 0.96

03:50:49.840 I think it's equally delusional for it because you are pretty you got like this cool Pocahontas 1.00

03:50:54.580 vibes thing going on you got a pretty face you're a pretty girl I don't think you need to tell

03:50:58.920 yourself you're a 10 I think you could just say I don't tell myself I'm a 10 I'm answering a

03:51:03.400 question they said do you see yourself as a 10 and I'm not going to be well I see myself as a 5

03:51:07.460 that's my opinion of myself if I have that opinion of myself I want it to be the absolute best

03:51:13.620 and just to be clear we are talking about looks right like you you can see yourself in like a

03:51:22.020 totality sense uh encompassing your personality well that's what i'm saying is that like i have

03:51:27.440 to be able to look at myself in the mirror and decide that i'm a tent not what society decides

03:51:32.340 for me but what i decide for myself i notice you're wearing makeup do you when you look in

03:51:40.360 the mirror because you said when you look at yourself in the mirror uh is your assessment of

03:51:45.260 you are you less are you not a 10 before you put the makeup on no that's not true at all so you're

03:51:52.240 a 10 before you put the makeup on i'm a 10 at all times i'm a 10 at all times yeah defend yourself

03:51:58.880 at all times um i mean but then why the need to put on the makeup if you're already a 10 because

03:52:04.560 it's fun i love putting on glitter it this is the funnest thing that i do yeah my son loves it

03:52:09.680 if i love it if i was gonna have makeup on i would just have glitter on a lot of people feel like

03:52:13.440 there's a reason thank you you've got the face and you've got the fake lashes right and you've

03:52:18.080 got the mascara and you've got some eyeshadow i love the looks and and i love putting on glitter

03:52:24.640 i love the glittery things i love that we are in a world where we can do that kind of

03:52:28.480 i'm not gonna lie i'm kind of a ferret i like sparkly things too and i like the fact that

03:52:33.600 i live in a country where if i choose to wear makeup i can do that if i don't want to wear

03:52:37.520 makeup i don't have to do that it's lit i love dressing up it's fun a lot of people don't do

03:52:43.980 things just because it's always oh if i can get a man or if i can get this i do this for that

03:52:48.740 instead of maybe i just do it just because it's fun and i could die in like two seconds you know

03:52:53.800 you never know what's gonna happen so i'd rather die with you guys think it's wrong to try to look

03:52:57.720 attractive for your man though no no not at all okay i think you should try to look attractive

03:53:03.000 for yourself first but then secondarily like if that's your only goal if you're like if your goal

03:53:09.280 is to make yourself look better because you're insecure that you don't look good that's that's

03:53:17.140 stuff that you need to think about that's not like like some people show up as desperate oh i need to

03:53:21.680 do this this and that and um that way i will earn a person earn a good whatever but your intention

03:53:28.320 is wrong it's super like maybe this is just me being married for a really long time but i think

03:53:33.900 like for me it's important to still be attractive to my husband i still want his attention um i'm

03:53:40.200 still hoping that like when i walk by if he's playing video games he'll at least give me a

03:53:43.700 little and i think that's really important there too because um i heard you say something about

03:53:48.280 like oh like how can i be with this wife who let themselves go i think that in all cases if you

03:53:53.500 look your best to get someone then stay looking your best yeah i think that if you're doing things

03:53:58.960 just to get someone and then completely um stop doing whatever that was i think that is entering

03:54:04.440 a relationship yeah that's false and i think that's show up exactly as you were going to show

03:54:09.720 up you know regardless if you're somebody that puts on makeup every day put on makeup every day

03:54:13.880 if you're doing it only to get a man and then get mad oh my god he doesn't love me because i don't

03:54:18.520 wear makeup there's a there's a lot to say about that really quick on the makeup thing i've been

03:54:23.460 trying to conceive and create and invent a way to properly articulate some of my objections as it

03:54:33.740 relates to makeup because I feel like sometimes it doesn't quite I mean from my perspective and

03:54:39.220 there's obviously it's not just on off switch black or white I think there's a scale to the

03:54:44.660 level of deception fraud misrepresentation a woman wears a bit of eyeliner that's different 0.99

03:54:51.400 than a woman who's full face of makeup, contouring, powder, fake lashes. 0.95

03:54:56.380 Then you can even get into plastic surgery, lip filler, Botox, using filters.

03:55:01.920 There's a scale.

03:55:02.980 There's a severity to it.

03:55:04.740 But I wonder if it was framed like this, and perhaps in the future something like this will be real.

03:55:14.040 imagine nanorobots that hell yeah micro robots that and thousands or even millions of them

03:55:22.520 that can maneuver themselves on someone's face either both a man or a woman maneuver themselves 1.00

03:55:27.460 on on someone's face so as to completely maybe not completely like there's still a character

03:55:33.540 of them there but you know reshaping the jaw like the ai thumbnail exactly there you go

03:55:39.960 You're close. You're close. You're close, Rachel. You're close.

03:55:43.580 That's me from another dimension 20 years ago with plastic surgery.

03:55:48.020 Doesn't even look like me at all. It's very close, Rachel.

03:55:50.980 I mean, you know, look, it was chat GPT. It took its liberties.

03:55:53.980 But yeah, exactly. But I would say that I think women, if, for example,

03:56:00.060 you ran into this guy who's the most beautiful man, handsome man you ever saw.

03:56:04.820 and he had some futuristic nanorobot thing

03:56:09.040 that changed his face

03:56:11.140 and then when he took it off 0.99

03:56:13.660 his skin was all fucked up 1.00

03:56:17.040 and he was balding 0.99

03:56:18.120 and he could create fake hair too

03:56:19.920 and he was balding

03:56:21.140 and I wonder

03:56:22.860 I'm trying to think if I had posted this somewhere

03:56:25.320 let me see if I posted it somewhere

03:56:28.000 I don't know if I did

03:56:29.780 realistically I know a little bit about nanotech

03:56:31.740 because I've read a lot of books on it

03:56:32.960 But you would be able to grow hair again.

03:56:35.580 You wouldn't even need to, like, the illusion of it.

03:56:37.160 You would be able to regrow hair again.

03:56:38.260 Sure.

03:56:38.600 But I guess in this scenario, it's a complete facade, total mask.

03:56:43.960 I think people, whether it's a man or a woman doing this, would feel like this is to some degree a deception.

03:56:50.920 Oh, sure.

03:56:51.300 Like, if it's nanorobots covering your face, and it's changing the jaw, and it's changing the shape.

03:56:57.840 But it's like, well, that's kind of what makeup does to a degree.

03:57:01.000 now depends what the makeup is a little eyeliner well that's not huge but some of the contouring

03:57:07.760 stuff that women do some of the plastic surgery that yeah that does change it and it's like 1.00

03:57:13.120 i wonder if through that lens women would have a greater objection 1.00

03:57:17.860 to uh they would perhaps see male's perspective on the deception that makeup can have 1.00

03:57:25.060 and if women would have a different tune on it if men were wearing some nano robot mask 1.00

03:57:35.700 that looked completely basically real and you you were more attracted to this person

03:57:43.140 because they were wearing it i'm gonna have to have chat gpt like generate an image so

03:57:49.680 So you can really see what I'm talking about, but it's, I don't know, I think a lot of women would feel deceived if there was some nanorobot mask that looked super, anyways, whatever.

03:58:03.200 We have some chats here. We have Desert Jorge.

03:58:07.040 I wasn't a misogynist before tonight's show.

03:58:09.640 After listening to Chair 2 and Chair 3 spew their retortedness all night long, I'm now reconsidering embracing misogyny.

03:58:19.680 Thank you for showing me the truth.

03:58:21.240 Wow, okay.

03:58:22.840 He was an egalitarian until you guys talked.

03:58:25.480 Good job, guys. 1.00

03:58:26.380 Damn it. 1.00

03:58:26.760 He's entitled to his own opinion. 1.00

03:58:28.120 You know, people accuse me of creating all these misogynists, or misandrists, I guess.

03:58:32.220 Or no, misogynists.

03:58:33.500 But it's really the women. 1.00

03:58:36.140 Only Joker's nuke button you talked about earlier.

03:58:39.240 If men left the planet, there goes your income. 1.00

03:58:41.800 If a war started, I can guarantee semi-auto you'd run to men for a fix.

03:58:46.760 when you call a cop, it's men 0.99

03:58:49.380 for fuck's sake, la la, land. 1.00

03:58:52.020 Yeah. 0.99

03:58:53.640 Yeah, if there was a natural disaster

03:58:55.540 tomorrow, you wouldn't be waiting for the women 1.00

03:58:57.440 to come save you.

03:59:01.280 Was that the nuke?

03:59:02.960 No feminists in the Mad Max world 1.00

03:59:05.360 nuclear apocalypse.

03:59:07.000 Finishing off on the rating thing really quick,

03:59:09.620 can you tell me a woman who's a 10? 1.00

03:59:13.860 Olivia Rodrigo.

03:59:14.920 anyone else just curious or yeah billy eilish um olivia rodrigo okay google olivia rodrigo and

03:59:23.340 then what about you a woman who's a 10 i don't remember the actress name but it's manny from

03:59:28.100 um degrassi or degrassi yeah manny from degrassi cassie steele yeah cassie steele okay google her

03:59:34.660 too yeah or what's her name um the super who's the chick that plays superwoman and then gal 1.00

03:59:40.820 gadot that one gal gal gadot okay so those three and then uh tell me a man who's a 10

03:59:46.380 tell me a man who's a 10 while she's thinking um david and james wait is it franco yeah the

04:00:00.580 franco the franco brothers james franco okay to james franco what about you

04:00:04.440 maybe like younger leonardo dicaprio young leonardo dicaprio yeah okay he's still hot in

04:00:16.400 his old age oh and also troy bolton however the his actor name is troy bolton zach efron

04:00:21.000 zach efron yeah oh zach afron okay do zach efron why not chris hemsworth chris hemsworth why not

04:00:28.100 Wait, didn't Zac Efron get like a weird surgery? 1.00

04:00:30.340 He fucked his shit up. 1.00

04:00:31.280 He fucked his shit up. 1.00

04:00:32.280 He fucked his shit up, yeah. 1.00

04:00:34.460 How come nobody ever brings up Jensen Ackles? 1.00

04:00:37.220 I don't know who that is.

04:00:38.740 The guy who plays Dean Winchester from Supernatural?

04:00:41.140 Oh, oh.

04:00:41.760 He's like too beautiful to exist.

04:00:43.700 I don't even know.

04:00:44.060 Do you have all those?

04:00:45.180 Image tab on all those?

04:00:46.660 All right, we're just going to run them up really quick.

04:00:51.000 All right.

04:00:51.880 Also, young Andrew, 10 out of 10.

04:00:53.560 There you go, young Andrew.

04:00:55.000 Okay, so that's Olivia Rodrigo.

04:00:56.860 You said she's a 10. 0.96

04:00:57.780 you're a 10 next see i think she just looks normal she looks like aoc this is gal gadot

04:01:03.460 you said gal gadot's a 10 you're a 10 next uh you said james franco is a 10 there that you're a 10

04:01:11.200 okay tap over young scroll up a little bit

04:01:14.680 scroll up scroll up scroll up uh okay the third one the third one yeah he's cute but he's just

04:01:25.200 he always looks like a baby to me yeah he's a really big head leo's a 10 uh zach efron uh yeah

04:01:32.400 he's chopped zach efron what'd you do and then there should be uh hemsworth or whatever and then

04:01:39.200 okay there you go there's so those are tens you guys are tens um boy boy oh boy um

04:01:48.880 Well, can we ask them what it's going to be in 20 years?

04:01:53.980 Oh, the like, will they look?

04:01:55.420 Yeah, yeah.

04:01:55.920 We actually stopped doing that.

04:01:57.420 We can do that, though.

04:01:58.900 One quick thing, though.

04:02:00.460 So, okay, just to be clear, you listed James Franco, Leonardo DiCaprio, Chris Hemsworth,

04:02:07.380 Zac Efron as 10s.

04:02:09.820 You're a 10.

04:02:11.120 Are those your, is that your league?

04:02:13.280 No.

04:02:14.840 Looks league.

04:02:15.500 Is it your looks league?

04:02:16.340 My looks league? No. I told you, I saw myself as a 10, not based on conventional standards.

04:02:23.480 But if we're going, you know, conventional standards, they're very attractive.

04:02:26.860 And then who was the guy that you said?

04:02:29.060 Young Leo DiCaprio.

04:02:30.740 You said Leo DiCaprio. So is Young Leonardo DiCaprio, that's your looks league?

04:02:36.980 Sure. Like.

04:02:40.780 Oh, boy. All right. Okay.

04:02:43.880 I mean, like, isn't it okay for someone to see themselves as a 10 and also understand that they're not going to get somebody like Zac Efron?

04:02:51.460 Well, not get someone, because, I mean, we're bringing in other factors in terms of attractiveness.

04:02:58.980 There's status, there's money, there's success, there's career there.

04:03:02.880 But just on the looks front, I would still question, say, for example, an average woman who thinks she could land a guy who's an 8, 9, or 10. 0.52

04:03:14.520 Well, that is different.

04:03:16.480 Somebody who thinks, that's what I'm saying, is like if you're delusional in yourself but also don't understand the world, that is a problem.

04:03:24.020 If you are so delusional to believe that looks actually don't matter, that is a problem because this is society.

04:03:29.800 And like I said, we as humans, we do start with the looks, but if you see yourself as

04:03:34.900 a 10 and understand that you as a 10 are not in the leagues of societal tens, I feel like

04:03:40.980 that's fine.

04:03:41.380 To rate yourself a 10, if you acknowledge that there are, so if, okay, if the scale

04:03:46.780 is zero to 10, uh, 10 is the ultimate, how can there possibly be men who you would rate

04:03:55.520 as a 10 that are outside of your league?

04:03:58.720 that's my confusion here there's an inconsistency in the application but yeah I just don't understand

04:04:05.200 I guess what I mean by that is that I don't I personally don't go around judging based on looks

04:04:15.380 first and looks is like the last thing like looks is something that subconsciously is being made in

04:04:21.620 my mind but it's not something that I'm holding attention to I'm not like I can see someone is

04:04:26.600 conventionally attractive like Zac Efron but that is a fleeting thought what stays is who are they

04:04:32.560 as a person is this is this person someone that I feel a trick because attraction isn't just

04:04:37.760 thinking they look good it's it's a literal sexual desire there too yeah but we're just we're like I

04:04:44.240 was saying it's just if you're just looking at a picture right it's not all of those intangibles

04:04:49.140 that when you meet someone and they've got like mad charisma and confidence and they're just like

04:04:53.560 have this aura and all those other things yeah right i mean i guess it is okay but you're just

04:04:58.540 looking at a picture looking at a picture of you looking at looking at pictures and stuff yeah if

04:05:04.120 i looked at a picture of myself and saw myself as a 10 i think that's because of like he said

04:05:08.640 my own delusion in myself i i like to see myself as a 10. okay um i guess uh final question on this

04:05:16.340 sort of. You

04:05:18.020 give me a rating out of 10.

04:05:20.760 For yourself? Yeah.

04:05:25.420 Here's the

04:05:26.380 problem is that I feel like

04:05:27.480 I don't habitually

04:05:30.460 do that. You want me to rate

04:05:32.460 you as... It can be low.

04:05:34.340 I don't care. I won't be offended.

04:05:35.580 I mean, I was going to...

04:05:38.100 It can be

04:05:39.640 with that. I mean, if it's higher, great.

04:05:41.360 I'd say you're a 10.

04:05:42.360 I'd say you're a 10.

04:05:46.340 i don't know what you want me to say like the honest truth i guess i don't know because i think

04:05:50.600 it's strange that we as a society even rates people like this that's what i think that's

04:05:56.100 strange i think it's strange that we always like have and like like looks it we can't we can't

04:06:02.500 change how we look because i vocalize it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist like it's still it

04:06:06.940 still permeates everything like so when a woman looks at a man and makes like a split section 1.00

04:06:11.640 subconscious unconscious it's not well it's not a conscious determination she's subconsciously

04:06:17.380 like whoa that guy's attractive you've you've like looked at his jaw shape like you're making

04:06:22.540 like an instantaneous assessment that is factoring in like yeah he's very sort of superficial

04:06:27.620 assessments right of of humans like okay his interpupillary distance is this much like you'd 0.99

04:06:33.460 be like oh you'd be less attractive his eyes were like fucking over here and shit we're not like 0.99

04:06:38.080 rating on numbers you know we're not like looking at someone yeah so so you know like how when 0.99

04:06:45.080 you're playing uh you you use your iphone or have you ever watched a movie so like you are you

04:06:51.600 familiar with like computer code or anything like coding yeah yeah like it breaks down to zeros and

04:06:56.740 ones everything breaks down to numbers to some degree like you can break almost anything down

04:07:02.680 into a numerical representation of the thing you know like how many molecules are how many

04:07:08.360 how many atoms how many like you can break like how good is you rate stuff on door dash when you

04:07:13.460 get your door dash order you give it four stars you get five stars that's all we're talking about

04:07:19.300 with looks and what women do is they assign all this emotional baggage to oh if i say that she's 1.00

04:07:25.300 not a 10 i'm saying i don't like her and the sisterhood's going to attack me and if i tell

04:07:29.000 brian that he's not handsome he's gonna i guess i like there's something called demisexual and

04:07:34.400 it's like when it's it's it is like difficult and that's when okay i found that it was difficult for

04:07:41.800 me to relate to people who are like this guy's really hot this guy's that's how i am too and

04:07:47.280 and that i didn't know was abnormal growing up i didn't know that like everybody was

04:07:52.020 Stop it.

04:07:53.060 Give some help.

04:07:54.540 Well, hey.

04:07:55.880 You know, it's okay for the world to be that way.

04:07:59.780 Okay.

04:08:00.460 Did you say if you had a boyfriend right now, what does he look like?

04:08:03.800 How tall is he?

04:08:04.880 He's 5'7", or 5'9", 5'9".

04:08:07.040 Okay.

04:08:07.480 Is he good looking?

04:08:08.740 He would call himself a 6.

04:08:10.100 He would tell.

04:08:10.680 He doesn't want to talk about, like, he doesn't.

04:08:13.440 He has a lower love for himself than I feel like I have for himself.

04:08:18.620 Or looks for himself.

04:08:19.720 Like, he looks himself in the mirror and he's like, nah, I'm a 5.

04:08:21.580 Let's do this. Rachel wanted to bring this up. Very good question.

04:08:27.860 Do you think, tell us your age and if you think you'll be better looking in 10 years.

04:08:33.360 Genetically speaking, how, you know, we break down over time. I think it's safe to assume that

04:08:40.040 in 10 years from now, I probably won't look just as good unless I have plastic surgery or have 1.00

04:08:45.160 other stuff done just because genetically I'm white as fuck. So, I mean, somebody that's like 0.99

04:08:50.440 korean like her you know she has over 10 years maybe she'll look better than i would but over 0.99

04:08:55.660 10 years i can almost probably she looks more white than she does asian to be honest but i mean 1.00

04:09:01.720 down to the genome you know you know she looks like winnie cooper from the wonder years so i've

04:09:06.980 been told that so many times yeah i think danica mckeller's her i'd say it's safe to assume in 10

04:09:12.720 years from now i'm probably not gonna look as good that's just how it is okay uh you're 22

04:09:17.980 will you be better looking at 32? Absolutely not. Uh, you are refused to get, I'm going to say

04:09:24.700 23. Will you be better looking in 10 years time? Yes. 20 years time. No. Okay. But yes. Okay. Uh,

04:09:32.240 you're 44 better looking at 54. I would hope to maintain the same. I do think I'm better looking

04:09:38.760 in my thirties and forties than I was in my twenties. Any particular reason? Like some

04:09:43.260 people say, well, okay, I was a fucking heroin addict. I went to beauty school at the end of 0.99

04:09:46.620 my 20s so i beauty school i i know a little bit more about how to do my hair and that kind of

04:09:51.820 stuff might i ask this question let's say you were to transpose your hair that you have now to when

04:09:57.800 you were uh 24 and same makeup routine uh would you be better looking at 24 and uh than you are

04:10:05.780 now at 44? I mean, I probably equal maybe. Wait, wait, wait. Well, let me ask the first

04:10:17.240 question. So 44, will you be better looking in 10 years time at 54? I would like to be

04:10:23.040 the same. You would like to be the same. Doesn't quite answer the question though. Well, I

04:10:27.540 I mean, I eat healthy, I scout, I don't do drugs, I don't do alcohol, like my lifestyle

04:10:36.420 I think is conducive to say that I think I will be equal.

04:10:40.500 So there will be no change in 10 years' time?

04:10:43.040 I mean, I might have a few more gray hairs than I do now.

04:10:45.200 That's it?

04:10:45.680 From 44 to 54, like just a couple more gray hairs?

04:10:49.380 I mean.

04:10:50.280 Oh my gosh, menopause hits and everything just drops.

04:10:52.360 Who are we asking though?

04:10:54.480 Like am I asking?

04:10:55.680 You could ask a woman or a man.

04:10:57.140 like okay but i mean you're still the same yeah yeah am i comparing myself to other 54 year olds

04:11:04.300 or am i saying compared to your 44 year yeah so your 44 year old self do you think you'll be

04:11:09.720 better looking at 54 in 10 years time i don't think i'll be better looking no will you be the

04:11:14.620 same though i think so there won't be degradation if there is maybe a little bit a little bit okay

04:11:22.780 what about uh 64 versus 44 about the same probably better looking at 44 than 64 yes better looking but

04:11:29.460 uh slight very slight change or i i mean i don't think well okay 54 to 64 about the same probably

04:11:40.220 okay i guess 20 year gaps um and then let's go back in time you're 44 going back to 34

04:11:48.460 better looking at 34 or better looking now at 44?

04:11:52.160 I think I was better looking at 34.

04:11:54.540 Okay, and then going back to 24,

04:11:57.820 24 compared to 44 now,

04:12:00.100 better looking now or 24?

04:12:03.220 I would say now. 0.99

04:12:06.480 Were you like a heroin addict? 0.96

04:12:10.460 No, my hair is naturally curly.

04:12:12.480 I just, you know, I didn't really wear any makeup.

04:12:15.320 I mean, I don't really wear a ton of makeup now.

04:12:18.460 I don't know, I mean...

04:12:19.580 Do you have photos of yourself when you were 24?

04:12:22.220 You could show us.

04:12:24.020 I could find something, probably.

04:12:25.360 I feel like you have good baseline aesthetics.

04:12:27.760 Like, you're probably babing it up at 24.

04:12:31.580 Probably, yeah.

04:12:32.300 Maybe you still are, probably.

04:12:34.220 I mean, thank you.

04:12:35.420 You haven't had your rebound yet.

04:12:36.860 I mean, maybe it's...

04:12:38.300 I took some milk.

04:12:41.080 Nathan, why would you press that?

04:12:42.320 I have a really funny story about that.

04:12:44.900 About what?

04:12:45.600 When I was married to my ex-husband.

04:12:47.440 And I was going through the gate to go on base after I had brought him lunch or something.

04:12:52.960 And one of the guys was like, man, she's a milf. 0.92

04:12:56.220 Like, that's a total milf.

04:12:57.860 And then he sees my husband waving at me.

04:13:00.500 And he's like, you know her?

04:13:01.960 He's like, oh, yeah, that's my wife.

04:13:04.260 And so every time I came on base to see my ex-husband at that point, that guy ran away from me.

04:13:11.320 He was too embarrassed.

04:13:13.280 And your husband was a military police officer.

04:13:16.580 he worked with them they were both oh okay oh they were both yeah okay um okay um and then

04:13:23.720 well you okay so better at 44 than 24 okay uh what about 44 and 18

04:13:29.740 probably doesn't change anything but i mean

04:13:33.960 i i i like the way i look better now than when i was wait how about this is not really

04:13:40.300 totally looks related but if you could re-get your 20 year old body would you make the change

04:13:46.980 like would you do the trade there's not a huge difference i mean i probably had a little bit

04:13:51.560 more muscle than i do now you wouldn't you wouldn't you wouldn't do the trade you just

04:13:58.000 get boom 20 year old your bone density would be great again i mean face every year yeah yeah so

04:14:06.060 So having a baby at 25 versus 40, it was a lot easier to recover then.

04:14:11.080 You know, a lot more energy chasing the baby around.

04:14:13.180 You are 25, better looking at 35.

04:14:16.080 Yes.

04:14:16.760 Better looking at 45.

04:14:19.100 No.

04:14:20.260 Okay.

04:14:21.880 You're 35, better looking at 45.

04:14:24.180 No.

04:14:25.660 35, better looking at 25.

04:14:27.660 Yes.

04:14:28.700 Better looking now.

04:14:29.360 No, I was better looking at 25.

04:14:30.840 Oh, at 25.

04:14:31.340 I see.

04:14:32.040 You are, sorry, 23?

04:14:34.220 Wait.

04:14:34.500 33.

04:14:34.780 33.

04:14:35.920 33, better looking at 43?

04:14:38.960 I'll be better looking at 43 because I'll be even further along in my health and fitness journey.

04:14:43.660 So to counteract, even if there are a couple wrinkles based on where I'm at now, yeah, I think that would raise...

04:14:48.740 Good for you.

04:14:49.240 Might I ask you this question, though?

04:14:52.020 Assuming nothing changed between now, I guess you're talking about weight, right?

04:14:59.380 Let's say you stayed the same weight.

04:15:01.300 Would you be better looking at 43?

04:15:03.620 Probably not.

04:15:04.460 Okay.

04:15:04.600 And then 33, let's go back to 23, better looking at 23 or 33?

04:15:10.180 Now I used to be really fat.

04:15:11.780 You were more fat at 23?

04:15:14.040 Yes.

04:15:15.160 Okay, all right.

04:15:16.100 I've lost 67 pounds.

04:15:17.440 There you go.

04:15:17.980 Nice job.

04:15:19.040 You are 30, better looking at 40?

04:15:23.480 Yeah.

04:15:24.540 Better looking at 40?

04:15:26.260 Yeah.

04:15:27.100 50?

04:15:31.600 Not as good.

04:15:33.100 But about the same.

04:15:34.600 yeah

04:15:36.260 uh 60 about the same um respectfully if i have as strong as my mother's genes

04:15:50.120 then i'm very okay with it it's not going to change very much

04:15:53.160 in 30 years time it's not going to change okay i'm sorry did you mean from 40 to 50

04:16:01.140 Well, no, from 30 to 60.

04:16:02.740 From 30 to 60, extremely different.

04:16:05.000 Definitely not going to be as attractive.

04:16:07.340 I thought you meant from.

04:16:08.640 Oh, from each incremental.

04:16:10.440 Okay.

04:16:11.120 Your 30, were you better looking at 20 or better looking now at 30?

04:16:14.440 Better looking now.

04:16:16.260 And you said your mother's jeans.

04:16:17.760 Are you half black?

04:16:19.140 No, I'm Italian and Lebanese.

04:16:22.340 Really?

04:16:25.200 Do you get that a lot?

04:16:27.900 Yes.

04:16:28.220 You get that a lot, right?

04:16:29.320 Yeah.

04:16:29.580 i thought she was half black italian wait you're italian and lebanese she has like actually i can 0.99

04:16:37.320 kind of see i see the lebanese i see the lebanese all right there you go all right um okay and then

04:16:45.680 all three of you girls right next to me have gorgeous eyes they have like really bright 0.98

04:16:52.340 oh whoa she's color contacts oh whoa your eyes are like yellow oh shit that's kind of cool 0.78

04:17:01.400 what's the like technical or like the actual color it just says like a hazel right on my license

04:17:08.300 but yeah but they're like kind of they're they're like a yellowish light super light green then

04:17:15.020 what about i don't know over here like gray blue oh okay and then you've got depends on

04:17:21.280 It's pretty green, but kind of hazel-ish.

04:17:23.180 Sometimes it'll be a blue Gryan. 0.99

04:17:25.900 All right.

04:17:26.460 All right.

04:17:26.840 Well, there it is.

04:17:27.640 There it is.

04:17:29.960 That's interesting.

04:17:30.920 Okay.

04:17:31.180 Well, we have a little fun segment now.

04:17:33.240 We've been grilling you guys for a while.

04:17:35.420 We have put all of you through AI.

04:17:38.000 Oh, no.

04:17:38.660 Oh, no.

04:17:38.980 Now, do we have the two batches?

04:17:40.400 We have, like, the aging?

04:17:42.160 Or no.

04:17:42.480 Wait.

04:17:42.860 Did we?

04:17:43.260 No, no, no.

04:17:43.600 We have the gender swap. 0.99

04:17:44.440 Oh, my God.

04:17:45.300 Oh, I don't like me.

04:17:46.300 The beautification.

04:17:47.440 Okay.

04:17:47.760 Oh, I'm scared.

04:17:48.140 All right, so we have made all of you dudes.

04:17:51.760 Hell yeah. 0.74

04:17:53.020 You're all men now. 0.98

04:17:55.360 You've all been transformed into men. 0.97

04:17:58.520 Oh, my God.

04:18:00.120 And I have something for this, but I can't even find it.

04:18:05.300 To myself.

04:18:06.440 So the question you have to think of when you're seeing these photos is,

04:18:10.240 would you date the male version of you?

04:18:12.420 And then we're going to get into some heated debate. 0.94

04:18:15.760 Destroyed.

04:18:16.460 Okay.

04:18:17.440 All right.

04:18:18.140 i'm so excited all right uh go ahead oh bro okay listen no i need to see that that's funny

04:18:28.800 wait push yourself into frame um yikes bro you're hot so if you're pretty good as a guy

04:18:36.500 okay to be fair my hair's weird i have weird hair so like it's gonna make the guy look weird you

04:18:42.060 know. Would you date him? Kind of a silver fox vibe. With the beard it's not that bad but it doesn't

04:18:50.820 look close enough to my boyfriend so I'm going to say no. Okay next. Oh god can you get that to go

04:19:00.200 right? Absolutely not. Wait you got to zoom these in a little bit because they're like small so here

04:19:08.580 i'll pull it back up would you date the male version of you absolutely not what what's wait

04:19:15.140 whoa remember when she was like i don't care about looks looks don't matter i don't know it's ai 0.98

04:19:21.220 that's not a person i would not yeah but he looks like every every like he looks like every middle

04:19:26.660 aged man no he he looks like the he looks like he's 40. what do you talk about he looks like

04:19:33.220 No, he does not.

04:19:35.020 He looks like 30.

04:19:36.060 He looks like he's 35.

04:19:38.440 What do you think is more attractive, you or the male version of you?

04:19:42.600 I think we're about the same.

04:19:43.680 It looks like Harry Potter to me.

04:19:45.260 Okay.

04:19:46.320 All right, next.

04:19:48.560 Whoa.

04:19:50.120 That's not me.

04:19:51.980 That's not me.

04:19:54.380 I actually went to high school with that guy.

04:19:57.740 That has to be a thin sub, bro.

04:19:59.980 All right.

04:20:01.760 What do you date them?

04:20:03.220 oh hell no you only date women so yeah but like no yeah okay next

04:20:08.580 would you date him start again

04:20:13.060 sure okay uh into the mic still uh next he seems safe oh bro

04:20:21.560 i would say he looks look at that smile wait but you're you're not asian i am asian oh you are

04:20:32.260 Yeah, I'm half Filipino.

04:20:33.320 Oh, half Filipino, half? 0.99

04:20:34.720 Half Romanian.

04:20:36.220 Oh, okay.

04:20:37.620 The Filipinos are strong in you.

04:20:39.360 What's up, dude? That's my title.

04:20:39.940 No, I'm just kidding.

04:20:41.340 That would be fun.

04:20:42.140 I thought you were like...

04:20:43.520 Mexican? 0.63

04:20:44.860 Latina or Native American.

04:20:46.260 Everyone gets that a lot.

04:20:47.820 That's probably what your son's going to look like when he gets older.

04:20:50.360 The Filipinos are like Spanish. 1.00

04:20:52.160 Well, my son.

04:20:53.200 He's a mix of things.

04:20:54.220 He's not coming up.

04:20:55.520 Okay, so you would date him.

04:20:57.140 Yeah.

04:20:57.420 Okay, next.

04:20:59.040 Here, hide the super chat, please.

04:21:01.900 oh god that's rough scuff these no i did her dirty no wouldn't date him he does look super

04:21:08.840 russian he looks like a russian can we change his lip color he needs a track suit 0.99

04:21:13.460 all right next bro what are you guys doing here hold on fix get them fixed before we go to them

04:21:22.400 what do you mean you can't fix them so rude yeah but

04:21:27.800 together okay i see what i don't know why that would okay um that's weird but okay

04:21:35.240 look at the face would you date them i know i look so shady side eye

04:21:40.760 but he looks safe yeah okay not too bad i would thanks oh whoa with beard w on the screenshot

04:21:53.720 it's very good

04:21:55.000 one all the way to the right

04:21:56.780 pretty generous on this one

04:21:59.640 I'm not going to lie 0.99

04:22:00.240 the middle one looks like a lesbian 1.00

04:22:03.120 I don't know 0.97

04:22:03.940 the facial hair helps

04:22:09.620 what?

04:22:10.920 I don't know about that

04:22:12.240 it should have just been a picture of Andrew

04:22:13.480 that does look like Andrew

04:22:14.960 you're saying I look like Andrew

04:22:18.780 no

04:22:20.400 that's your guy

04:22:22.220 that's your man

04:22:22.940 Um, like, let me see it again

04:22:25.080 Not bad, he's not bad

04:22:28.840 He looks like a good guy

04:22:30.920 He kind of does look like he could be my brother a little bit

04:22:34.160 Alright, next

04:22:36.040 Wow, Ryan

04:22:38.500 You're a hot Asian

04:22:39.420 I feel like they're a little generous there, I'm not going to lie

04:22:43.420 A little generous

04:22:44.300 A little generous

04:22:45.620 Well, you know what, I think it's the eyeliner

04:22:49.320 I told you you were a 10 0.99

04:22:51.040 yeah she can she's fucking odd not gonna worry she's odd i know right the hair like shit long 1.00

04:23:01.280 hair shit sign me up sign me up uh and then we did a beautification i think i guess we could 0.99

04:23:08.420 run through that super quick this actually yeah fuck it why not why don't we do it looks like 0.99

04:23:13.360 here uh you know what fuck it we're not gonna do it because it's all out of whack i guess um 0.99

04:23:18.860 all right let's get back into some some debate let's get into some disagreements here uh so 0.98

04:23:25.100 hmm where do i begin let me see if there's anything in the notes otherwise we're going

04:23:29.340 to go to the questionnaire we have uh let's see we did all of raven's notes i think aside from

04:23:39.520 uh yeah no we did all your stuff about the findom uh maya you said uh aside from not

04:23:48.540 dating people apparently yeah uh you believe that having done porn or only fans shouldn't inherently

04:23:54.960 make a girl unattractive no so is this response to something i've said or a clip from me i probably

04:24:00.820 i i don't remember when i filled that out i'm gonna be honest but um yeah most likely i but

04:24:05.860 i don't think it should inherently make someone unattractive i think if a man chooses not to be

04:24:10.600 with a woman because she's done porn or only fans that is absolutely his choice and that is 0.99

04:24:14.920 absolutely fair but like it shouldn't be like oh you're like a disgusting whore because you've 1.00

04:24:20.780 done only fans well that's different so okay um calling a woman a disgusting whore is different 0.99

04:24:25.860 than your first claim which was uh doing porn or only fans shouldn't inherently make a girl 1.00

04:24:31.920 unattractive no but what's the difference between what if a man thinks it inherently makes a woman 0.88

04:24:39.100 unattractive well he's entitled to that opinion but in my personal opinion i don't think

04:24:42.900 helpful well i mean i don't think i i i personally wouldn't go up to like a woman or a man and be

04:24:49.140 like oh you've done porn you've done only fans like you're unattractive immediately because to

04:24:52.540 me it doesn't matter so i don't think it should matter to other people too but if they think that

04:24:56.200 then they can well so it would boil down to preference i i guess but um would it be wrong

04:25:03.440 for many many men to have the preference that just on the just on the basis of them having

04:25:08.660 done sex work or only fans or porn that's the sole metric that is what is disqualifying them

04:25:15.400 just that if it's say 70 men have this viewpoint is this somehow wrong or objectionable to you

04:25:23.560 i don't think it's wrong because i mean you can't like make someone anyone can be attracted to who

04:25:29.080 they want to be attracted to it doesn't matter what well is it so like let's say uh they see

04:25:34.920 women on a dating app who have in their bio used to do porn used to do only fans used to do all of 0.98

04:25:40.300 this and the man like instantly shuts off and that's the end of it he doesn't give her the

04:25:47.060 chance to reveal more about herself is that is that somehow unfair i think that's fair but what

04:25:53.200 i think would be unfair is being in a relationship with someone for like say like six months finding

04:25:57.820 out that they're doing porn or only fans and they really like that person but because they found

04:26:02.440 that out, they break up. Well, you're shifting the goalposts a little bit here. But no, no,

04:26:06.800 I don't think that's fair. I mean, I would agree with you that if you knew the girl was a porn star, 0.98

04:26:11.860 well, I'm saying if she didn't know, and then you found out. Oh, okay. That's interesting.

04:26:16.900 Wait, wait, wait, wait. That's really interesting, actually. Well, what I was going to say is,

04:26:21.440 I think, look, if, uh, if you go into a relationship with somebody and you have full

04:26:27.620 knowledge ahead of time um i think it is fair for you to like maybe start to have issues with it as

04:26:37.080 the relationship progresses but also it's like buyer beware you kind of knew what you're getting

04:26:41.860 into like if she's an only fans girl good chance she's not going to stop it now like six months

04:26:49.020 deep into a relationship but what you said is actually i guess i misheard you you're saying

04:26:53.760 that she has kept this from you and then only six months into the relationship when you conceive

04:27:00.320 you've fallen madly you she's amazing she's beautiful her personality is striking

04:27:07.020 but you find out she does only fan six months into the relationship you then would think it

04:27:12.980 would be wrong for the man to dump her or break up with her after this revelation is that do i

04:27:19.600 is that correct yes yes why would that be wrong i think that would be wrong because i don't think

04:27:24.340 like what someone does should like change your love for them oh wait wait wait and that's okay 0.75

04:27:30.660 it subsets it subsets what if it's porn and she's fucking other men well he should be made aware of 0.95

04:27:37.080 that that should be on her to make either way he was deceived then yeah there's the deception

04:27:41.880 component so you're saying so this would not apply you wouldn't present this hypothetical scenario

04:27:47.680 as her having

04:27:49.240 sex with other men and her keeping 0.98

04:27:51.600 that secret. 0.75

04:27:53.820 When you put it that way, that

04:27:55.700 is wrong. But then I also see it as work.

04:27:58.060 Say she's just doing solo content

04:27:59.900 and she's posting pictures of her 1.00

04:28:01.800 butthole and like dildoing 1.00

04:28:03.940 herself and shit. 1.00

04:28:06.620 You think it would 1.00

04:28:07.840 be wrong in that circumstance where

04:28:09.720 there's not an infidelity happening 0.99

04:28:11.600 insofar as she's fucking other men. 1.00

04:28:13.800 Now she is talking to 1.00

04:28:15.740 other men on OnlyFans, but

04:28:16.920 you might be okay with that it's not you think it would be wrong for the guy to dump her

04:28:22.700 in that circumstance i just feel like it's work it's a job it's not like they're you know oh okay

04:28:29.780 i have a hypothetical then you're let's just i know you don't date guys but let's just say you

04:28:34.560 were dating a guy yes and it's like two months in you really like him he's awesome but then you find

04:28:40.320 out that he works for donald trump he's a donald trump campaign manager i would be fine with that

04:28:47.140 i've had someone who i was like i think you're like super against that well i have had someone

04:28:52.020 i was saying i don't think people's political beliefs should divide them like we're all people

04:28:55.980 at the end of the day and i think everyone should be able to get along with everyone there's people

04:28:59.100 whose political beliefs i haven't known i've gotten to know them became good friends i found

04:29:02.840 them out and i didn't stop being friends with those people because of it like i mean i've i

04:29:07.520 I don't know if this is like

04:29:10.320 Rachel tell me if you think this is like super retarded 1.00

04:29:13.740 What if you found out

04:29:15.980 Six months into the relationship

04:29:17.680 That he worked for NAMBLA

04:29:19.900 What is NAMBLA? 0.84

04:29:21.300 The North American Man Boy Love Association 0.99

04:29:23.980 What the fuck is that? 0.99

04:29:25.320 It's basically 0.99

04:29:26.020 PDF

04:29:27.700 That's illegal

04:29:29.600 That is legal so absolutely not

04:29:31.240 I don't know if that might have been

04:29:34.040 That was way far 0.96

04:29:35.280 If my boyfriend is a pedophile 0.75

04:29:36.820 Well, yes, I am not going to be with him anymore.

04:29:39.640 But what if he's just looking at pictures and he's not actually like...

04:29:42.120 He's still pedophilia.

04:29:44.060 He's not one, but he works for the company. 0.71

04:29:47.900 For the organization.

04:29:48.220 And does the, like helps with their, I mean, it's an advocacy organization.

04:29:52.440 Wait, so they're advocating for child porn or against it?

04:29:54.940 Well, they're advocating...

04:29:57.080 They advocate that young boys can consent and that it's natural.

04:30:00.580 Okay, yeah, no, absolutely not.

04:30:01.540 I don't think a child can consent to anything.

04:30:03.580 Okay, maybe it's a false equivalence.

04:30:07.240 So maybe that's not a fair comparison.

04:30:11.740 Yeah, you asked me if pedophilia is okay.

04:30:14.680 That's not okay. 0.99

04:30:15.580 Yeah, okay, I guess I'm retardedly nuclear, retardedly there. 1.00

04:30:19.820 But in any case, there's the deception component.

04:30:23.980 Like you are either through omission or through hiding this, you are kind of like, for example,

04:30:31.620 I think it's really common when you're just getting to know somebody like a common thread

04:30:35.160 of conversation is oh so what do you do for work and if the woman chose in that moment to not 1.00

04:30:39.960 disclose like hey my primary source of like let's say hmm would you object to this her only job is 1.00

04:30:48.040 doing only fans but she lies about I think that's why I don't think anyone should ever lie I hate 0.95

04:30:54.340 liars and hypocrites and if she's lying about it lie through omission you can lie through omission 0.83

04:30:58.780 If she was like, oh, you know, I'm kind of in between jobs or just, like, not saying what she does directly, I do think that is like, like, she directly asks what I'm for. 0.98

04:31:05.360 What if she said she's a content creator?

04:31:08.080 I mean, technically, that's true.

04:31:10.500 It's just not saying what kind of content creator she is. 0.71

04:31:12.920 If I was on a date with someone and then they told me they were a content creator, I would immediately look them up on all the platforms and figure out what they're doing.

04:31:20.180 So I would figure out, get to the bottom of what they're doing and then make a decision from there.

04:31:23.940 Look, I think you should disclose if you're a sex worker.

04:31:27.180 Absolutely.

04:31:27.540 And I mean, you've kind of keep walking things back and back and back to make your position more tenable.

04:31:33.800 So it's like your original message you sent, having done porn or OnlyFans shouldn't inherently make a girl unattractive.

04:31:41.820 Now it's like, okay, well, what if...

04:31:44.580 Well, if she lied about it, that's one thing.

04:31:46.140 But I don't think like you should immediately like...

04:31:48.580 Screen someone out of their possibilities.

04:31:51.280 Yeah.

04:31:51.840 Like I wouldn't immediately screen someone out if they were against my political beliefs or if they were doing something like that.

04:31:56.680 I would.

04:31:56.720 But I don't think there's anything wrong with that

04:31:58.900 Oh no, I'm just saying

04:32:00.940 Personally, I don't think we should judge people

04:32:02.400 I wouldn't do that

04:32:03.340 But you're saying having done

04:32:05.020 But your claim goes beyond just your own personal preference

04:32:08.400 You're making a social

04:32:10.300 Critique of people

04:32:12.440 Who, I assume

04:32:14.640 Men, who would refuse to date 0.86

04:32:16.620 A woman on the sole basis that she's 1.00

04:32:18.580 Done porn or OnlyFans

04:32:19.840 Like, for example 0.62

04:32:21.320 I would not want to date a woman who has 1.00

04:32:24.640 Done porn

04:32:25.460 that's fair yeah i worded the i worded my answer that i'm so sorry but also i'm worded it wrong

04:32:31.640 you shouldn't shouldn't it shouldn't inherently make a girl unattractive or unappealing yeah in

04:32:38.940 my personal belief but that's not you got to stand on i don't i guess it's okay i well i don't really

04:32:44.760 stand on anything i want everyone to speak happy i'm gonna call you flip-flop you i just want

04:32:50.920 everyone to be happy in the valley i just want everyone to sing kumaya and hold hands sometimes

04:32:56.260 i think it might be nice to live in delulu land with a lot of the other women you guys all just 1.00

04:33:02.580 are ignoring our that the absolute files and all just living in delulu land that trump's not in 0.97

04:33:07.140 there i mean that's the same shit the same thing ice is taking families apart that are even legal 0.90

04:33:13.880 you haven't said anything yet that you had any clue what you were talking about so we're just 0.97

04:33:19.000 going to all recognize that you also have no clue what you're talking about on this one either that

04:33:22.860 is true okay so if somebody gets caught in disneyland and didn't buy a ticket do you think

04:33:26.900 they should get kicked out yeah but what about the people what's the difference between that and

04:33:31.420 ice kicking somebody else because some of them have papers and documents and they're being kicked

04:33:36.160 out anyway who the immigrants not one single person was an american citizen we kicked out a 0.99

04:33:42.120 veteran did you guys see that we had a veteran who served for the united states of america high

04:33:46.000 profile guy that turned out to actually be illegal i don't think he was wait can we test

04:33:50.800 this really quick so okay i actually i so i agree with you as follows yes if ice is making mistakes

04:34:00.080 and if it is the case that they are deporting uh people who have a genuine right to be like

04:34:06.160 actual citizens then that's wrong in the same way that sometimes police officers do make mistakes

04:34:11.520 Of course, like, yes, sometimes sometimes there are genuine cases of of police misconduct, brutality, killings, and oftentimes those are genuinely prosecuted.

04:34:22.640 And then sometimes not, too. Right. If I can agree to that, are you willing to say that I'll stand by you and say either unjustified actions by ICE or unjustified deportations, which my understanding it's compared to the millions of deportations that are happening.

04:34:39.500 we're talking about a handful we're talking about a few even if it is happening it's wrong

04:34:45.040 are you okay with the millions and millions of genuinely viable true deportations that are

04:34:51.900 occurring are you totally fine with those i'm not totally fine with all of them okay so your

04:34:55.580 objection is not about here's the thing america was we were built upon immigrants we were all

04:35:00.160 immigrants we came talking points no because i know we all no we're all she's just heard

04:35:05.300 No, but what are the immigrants doing that's affecting us?

04:35:09.140 Have any of you ever been personally victimized by an immigrant?

04:35:11.960 A lot of people have been victimized by immigrants.

04:35:13.940 What have they done?

04:35:14.660 What have they done?

04:35:14.980 But hold on.

04:35:15.580 Why are we deporting children and tearing families apart?

04:35:17.620 Like, why are we doing that?

04:35:18.160 Well, hold on.

04:35:18.840 So we should keep the children here and separate them from their parents and deport the parents back. 1.00

04:35:22.260 Well, they're doing that anyway.

04:35:24.600 No.

04:35:25.180 Yes, they are.

04:35:26.080 Typically, if you do deportation, the kids go with the parents.

04:35:28.020 That is not true.

04:35:28.920 Yes, it is. 0.68

04:35:29.600 Parents are in different facilities than their children, and there are young girls being raped and getting pregnant in there.

04:35:35.140 That is also not true.

04:35:36.780 She is literally just sitting here saying, I know where you're getting this from, because

04:35:41.540 we do a thing on the Crucible called TikTok invasions, where we go into leftist TikTok

04:35:46.820 and we hear them say this insane stuff and we challenge them on the actual facts and

04:35:50.820 they're always wrong.

04:35:50.840 Can I see some facts that are in, like, do you guys have any documentation that that

04:35:54.000 stuff is not happening?

04:35:54.940 Well, he can bring it up, but you don't have documentation either.

04:35:58.540 Where's your facts?

04:35:59.320 Where's your facts?

04:35:59.680 I don't see it.

04:36:00.140 Yeah, where's your facts?

04:36:01.020 Where's your facts?

04:36:01.600 I don't have a phone.

04:36:02.320 Why are you confidently asserting something then?

04:36:05.440 But you're asking me for evidence, but you don't have to provide evidence.

04:36:08.720 I don't think we would have millions of Americans protesting right now if there wasn't some basis of truth to it.

04:36:14.520 Well, you would be wrong.

04:36:15.860 Because we had you girls protesting in the streets over women's oppression when that's not happening either. 1.00

04:36:22.420 Because you just feel like it is.

04:36:23.960 It's the way that women are being... 1.00

04:36:25.180 We already talked about that.

04:36:26.380 It's the way that women are... 1.00

04:36:28.320 Being talked about and treated.

04:36:29.840 and why like the way that men think it's okay to talk about us and as nobody's talking about you

04:36:35.620 nobody's talking about you i've got a really good question i'm so ready for it okay do you

04:36:41.200 think sometimes when people are baseless assertion when people are doing activism or protests that

04:36:47.420 beyond just finding something objectionable even if it's not like government down like okay in

04:36:53.640 society there's misogyny and oh my god it's so terrible um whether real or imagined would you

04:36:59.620 agree that sometimes the aim of activism or protest could be to attempt to get laws passed

04:37:05.820 i would agree so but okay should we criminalize misogyny criminalize misogyny no because they're 0.97

04:37:13.200 entitled to their own opinion but i think the point so then what the fuck is the point like 0.95

04:37:17.040 what do you want the government to do about men some very small amount of men who sometimes say 0.97

04:37:24.660 mean things about women what do you want them to do the protest isn't the protest is a gathering 1.00

04:37:28.940 of people to show that there is

04:37:30.900 an issue that people are recognizing and seeing.

04:37:33.100 What is this issue?

04:37:34.360 What is the issue?

04:37:36.240 I've said it!

04:37:38.060 Who are you protesting against?

04:37:39.880 We're just trying to show

04:37:41.240 getting together with a group of like-minded people

04:37:44.360 that support you.

04:37:46.480 We're just getting together to loudly

04:37:48.320 complain in public.

04:37:48.680 What are you complaining about?

04:37:52.380 You have not answered that question

04:37:54.900 so stop saying you've answered the question

04:37:56.600 because you have not answered it.

04:37:58.180 What do you want done about it?

04:38:00.080 The point of the protest is that you want what?

04:38:02.880 Something done.

04:38:03.640 No, I'm not saying they want anything done.

04:38:05.920 So they're just protesting for no reason.

04:38:08.040 We just want to complain.

04:38:09.780 We just want to.

04:38:10.700 And what is wrong with complaining?

04:38:11.920 We have freedom of speech.

04:38:12.600 What are you complaining about? 1.00

04:38:13.960 That men are apparently, allegedly, according to you, men are always talking shit about women. 1.00

04:38:20.340 Who? 1.00

04:38:21.120 The amount of time.

04:38:22.080 Who?

04:38:22.340 My question is who? 1.00

04:38:24.000 The amount of horrible shit I have heard men say about women specifically. 1.00

04:38:27.140 On TikTok. 1.00

04:38:27.440 No, I was with a group of guys once

04:38:30.760 And they were all talking about sex or whatever

04:38:32.460 And they were talking about a sex position 1.00

04:38:34.720 Where you do some fucked up shit to a woman 1.00

04:38:36.340 And she tries to get away from you 1.00

04:38:37.440 And they all were laughing about it

04:38:38.900 That is not okay

04:38:39.980 You haven't heard women saying awful things about men 0.94

04:38:42.760 You guys just did

04:38:45.120 You just did on this podcast

04:38:47.520 Wait, this is a complete

04:38:49.080 That's not for public protesting

04:38:51.720 We're talking about public policy

04:38:53.280 Please try

04:38:54.640 I think

04:38:56.520 i'll get into that too i think this is a complete actual misrepresentation of what these protests

04:39:02.040 are actually about now i think it's fine for women to feel upset about some sort of cultural 0.75

04:39:07.240 or social zeitgeist where there's like misogyny or whatever if women feel that way that they can 1.00

04:39:11.920 object to that but these protests are i seem to be more about women don't have rights and we we

04:39:19.060 gotta we gotta rally together to protect the women's rights what are the specific rights in 1.00

04:39:25.320 which you're attempting to secure or protect for women i think more recently roe v way is the one

04:39:29.920 that most women have been protesting for is that one being overturned they're trying to keep that 1.00

04:39:34.820 and we already talked about abortion but i think that's what they're trying to keep in there

04:39:37.660 okay so i have a question for you you said which we're gonna do a little lesson in how to think

04:39:44.500 you said i don't think a bunch of people would be protesting if this wasn't going on

04:39:52.120 right okay do you trust the government no absolutely not okay are you aware of the fact

04:39:58.300 that entities like ngos and the cia have paid protesters that this is a proven fact that there

04:40:06.460 are astroturfed fake social movements and i am also aware that there's people um like that you

04:40:12.040 could go on indeed and find a people that will hire you to go out and protest i'm aware of that

04:40:16.260 yeah so i wrote this little book that y'all should buy on amazon it's called the cult feminism the

04:40:20.900 Secret History of Women's Liberation. And it details how the CIA was actually involved in

04:40:26.500 the creation of Ms. Magazine and multiple other feminist propaganda to push it into the culture 1.00

04:40:33.320 during the Cold War. Do you think there might be something going on right now? Do you think that

04:40:38.500 there could be any of these kind of entities behind some of the like ICE protests or the

04:40:44.680 No King's Day stuff? Absolutely. And I think they're trying to distract us from the Epstein

04:40:48.020 files okay but you have a problem with ice so we're not we're not going to just endlessly talk

04:40:53.620 about that on here because it's also youtube tos and it's all speculation the thing about

04:40:57.900 that is it's all speculation right now so you have a problem with ice deporting people

04:41:02.600 why obama deport more people yes he did he absolutely did but that was over an eight-year

04:41:08.220 term wasn't obama put them in cages too yeah and you don't think trump's putting them in cages

04:41:12.880 we put people in jail have you guys seen the pictures of the ice their air-conditioned

04:41:18.360 facilities they're getting three meals a day yes they are no you're delusional you what what you

04:41:25.640 love to see you guys's evidence i would like to see yours you keep talking about a lot of these

04:41:31.140 facts but you keep going i feel this i think that do you know or do you think because it sounds like

04:41:37.540 you think a lot of stuff that you don't know well what she is is she's a great representation like

04:41:42.560 the marxists put this in all of their writing uh during like the bolshevik revolution they said

04:41:46.960 you've got to get the young women you've got to send them to university because they're the easiest 1.00

04:41:51.300 to capture and propagandize and they're the easiest people to turn into crazy revolutionaries

04:41:56.540 because you can weaponize their motherly instincts and you you show them pictures of kids in cages 0.98

04:42:03.420 you tell them that families are being separate you say the little girls are getting raped by ice

04:42:08.060 and they'll believe that and they'll go oh my god i have to protect the innocent uh undefined

04:42:13.860 thing that can't defend itself right this is why you see insane women in the street trying to fight 1.00

04:42:18.860 ice like literally trying to block them with their suvs and punch them in the face my dear you are 0.99

04:42:24.640 completely brainwashed and totally propagandized and eaten up all the propaganda and you totally 0.97

04:42:30.280 believe it i if i will look up some sources and find some articles once we're done i hope that

04:42:35.440 you do and you're going to find out that you're wrong you're going to find out that you're wrong

04:42:39.040 i look forward to finding out i'm right so the whole i had a big fight with people on twitter 0.98

04:42:42.880 about this there was some other dummy left lefty idiot on twitter who was making the same 0.99

04:42:47.680 allegation all the ice agents are raping and impregnating all the girls in these places 1.00

04:42:52.320 no some of the women that are coming over the border and get detained the even very young girls 0.82

04:42:58.240 are found to be pregnant but it's the coyotes who are human trafficking them across the border who

04:43:02.640 who are impregnating them they show up already pregnant they're not getting raped by ice in

04:43:06.920 prison like you think there's not cameras in these facilities you think there's no oversight like if

04:43:12.060 something like that was going on on a widespread level there'd be we would be seeing a case at

04:43:16.280 least have you guys seen the uh she was like a leftist what's the reporter and she tried to get 1.00

04:43:22.500 a job with ice and they like barely did any interview process any training i really trust

04:43:27.760 the leftist reporter to to honestly report on how ice hiring processes work i mean but can you tell

04:43:34.700 can you tell me why we shouldn't deport illegal immigrants you said you have a problem no person's 0.97

04:43:39.460 illegal so there are okay tell me about that explain how could you say a person is illegal

04:43:46.100 that's so you don't think there should be nations or borders no there should be nations and borders

04:43:50.640 Okay, what makes a nation if you don't have legal citizenship?

04:43:57.580 The people that are here?

04:43:59.640 Okay, like somewhere in the Bible it says something allowed.

04:44:01.860 No, it doesn't say don't.

04:44:03.360 There is something in there that says allow your neighbor in with their assumption.

04:44:07.000 I don't know.

04:44:07.340 It doesn't mean have open borders.

04:44:09.520 We're talking about ancient kingdoms that would literally slit your throat if you crossed their border without being allowed in.

04:44:17.100 Thank you, Brian.

04:44:17.980 do you think it's wrong for japanese people not to let immigrants in no but i think when people 1.00

04:44:25.720 wait wait wait when people when people when people are already here and they have established

04:44:30.600 life and now trump is in office so if you try sneaking into iran and see what iran does to you

04:44:38.140 do you think it's okay if you sneak across the border into iran and they put you in prison

04:44:42.220 do you think it's wrong for iran to do that no but i also wait so why is it wrong for iran it's the

04:44:49.700 way that we're doing it that i think is wrong how should we do it i think we should see that should

04:44:54.460 we put them on a little padded cushion and give and peel grapes and put little grapes in their

04:45:00.860 mouth and sing them songs when they go to sleep we should find i mean if they're not like undocumented 0.99

04:45:07.120 immigrants and they're in america why and they've been here they have a life established here they

04:45:11.580 have children here because their children were born in america and they're citizens why can't

04:45:14.880 we help them get like their proper citizenship rather than just kicking them out i mean they're

04:45:19.540 already here there are some there are some people who are going through that process and are being

04:45:24.860 allowed to do it but it depends on the case and the problem is that this has been going on since

04:45:28.660 before i was born okay so we've had such a massive wave of immigration over the last 50 years 0.92

04:45:35.180 that now we're in a really fucked situation where we got to try to unfuck it and guess what you're 0.96

04:45:40.600 not going to deport millions of people without a little bit of discomfort. And I know women don't 1.00

04:45:44.840 like discomfort, which is why I say men ought to be the ones in charge of all this thing, because

04:45:48.460 even right wing conservative women will often see this stuff and get upset and get worked up and be 1.00

04:45:53.100 like, I don't know, we shouldn't do it. Life is hard. And there has to be rules and there has to

04:45:58.500 be borders and boundaries. And if there's no borders or boundaries, if we're not allowed as

04:46:02.920 a country to enforce our borders, why are you as a woman allowed to enforce your boundaries and 1.00

04:46:08.280 borders like why don't you let immigrants into your home a better way we could be doing oh yeah 1.00

04:46:12.860 i think so i think we should let them stay with you i think we should let jose and his whole

04:46:17.460 family come live with you you can pay for their health care and you can pay for their food

04:46:21.760 i honestly think we're not doing enough yeah we're not doing enough we're not doing

04:46:26.760 tearing families apart isn't enough hold on wait wait tearing families yes oh you're tearing

04:46:32.920 If that's a consequence of somebody illegally immigrating here, then so be it. 0.96

04:46:38.380 So what about the people whose children are citizens and they are not citizens?

04:46:41.900 Because they immigrated to America, had their baby here.

04:46:44.220 That's why we're doing away with birthright citizenship.

04:46:47.000 We've got to get rid of birthright citizenship. 0.98

04:46:48.340 So that you don't have that anymore.

04:46:50.480 So let me check again for consistency.

04:46:53.260 Not talking about the future, but talking about how we're at currently.

04:46:55.460 If I commit a murder tomorrow and I get put in prison, I'm being separated from my children.

04:47:01.800 is that is that okay yes so if i commit a crime and i get put in prison i'm separated from my

04:47:08.300 children that's okay yes so if you are illegally resigning in a country and by the way these people

04:47:14.660 were warned everybody's forgetting about this we gave them a couple of years to get out do it the

04:47:20.480 proper way get their paperwork in order and those who didn't we warned them for a couple of years

04:47:25.880 hey you're going to be deported hey make your plans hey take care of this and they chose not

04:47:31.200 to they very willingly violated the law again and again and again and chose to do that so why

04:47:38.020 is it not okay to deport them murder and wait wait hold on okay rachel brings up a really good point

04:47:44.240 here so if we make them aware of their status like let's say like let's say they just came in

04:47:51.260 and they didn't know and let's say we said you have a year to make arrangements to leave let's

04:47:57.520 say we did that um by the way 99 of them wouldn't uh voluntarily leave do you think that's because

04:48:05.280 of their race are you just saying that like like why are you saying that why don't you think they

04:48:09.600 wouldn't voluntarily leave i know but that's why i'm asking because if they've come here illegally

04:48:14.000 they've they've willfully uh but your hypothetical was they didn't know that it was illegal to move

04:48:18.860 here isn't that what they do know but i'm saying if they didn't know uh wait hold on do you i don't

04:48:24.360 know how that is even racist but you said if they didn't know and they came here and then they were

04:48:29.280 given a year to leave and then you said they probably wouldn't why what is your basis of that

04:48:33.420 why would you say they probably wouldn't they didn't know they weren't because they're already

04:48:38.800 violating the law they're here but your hypothetical is you did they didn't know he didn't say that

04:48:43.220 but then they were warned no i'm saying no i so i said that let's say they did come here and they

04:48:50.100 didn't know that they were violating any law and say they were put on notice hey you know look you

04:48:55.820 you came here you didn't know by the way this is a completely ridiculous hypothetical scenario

04:48:59.600 and we gave them a year to voluntarily leave uh and they don't leave and that would then entail

04:49:08.820 or well and that would then allow us to deport them and this would split up a family would it

04:49:14.140 still be wrong then no i think that's absolutely fair okay so yeah but however the scenario i gave

04:49:21.580 you uh that doesn't exist most of them are aware of their illegal status so they know they know

04:49:29.160 that they're subject to like do you do you think that an illegal immigrant who's here today who's

04:49:35.620 been here for one two three four five years isn't aware of the current like oh they absolutely so

04:49:41.240 they're aware why are they not wait wait so why are they not voluntarily self-deporting it's the 0.96

04:49:45.860 way that why are they not i wouldn't even be involved if they got the fuck out and did things 0.66

04:49:51.900 the way they're supposed to my issue isn't with i don't i'm unbiased to the immigrants completely

04:49:56.200 my issue is how ice is treating like the the process that's a beat oh my god i can't speak

04:50:00.820 the process that is being done to remove the immigrants is the thing i have the issue with 1.00

04:50:05.260 what is you've only seen a handful of stories that the media makes it look super terrible

04:50:11.480 don't you wonder why under obama you didn't see any of those stories no i'm gonna look into them

04:50:18.120 later and i'm gonna look into all you know i'm starting to think that the problem with you is

04:50:22.600 that you were not disciplined enough as a child okay i'm really starting to think that your mama

04:50:28.020 should have should have taken i've been told i've been told i should have been yeah no it's yes

04:50:32.840 but i'm a bit confused so way too confidently ignorant just way too confidently what if we

04:50:40.100 were to do this though you would acknowledge that there are legal immigrants who aren't being torn

04:50:45.300 who don't have family here who don't have children who aren't being their families are being ripped

04:50:49.780 apart are you fine with us uh deporting say i don't know a 25 year old illegal immigrant male

04:50:57.160 who has no family here if they have their life established here yes oh my god all these additional

04:51:02.160 variables. But they have to be additional

04:51:04.120 variables in order to be accurate. 0.99

04:51:05.920 Who gives a shit if they have a life established here? 0.98

04:51:08.220 They can go establish it somewhere else. 0.99

04:51:09.780 You're just going to go throw them off?

04:51:11.880 How would you feel if I just picked you up and took you to

04:51:14.120 Canada right now?

04:51:15.640 That's exactly what should happen to me.

04:51:18.240 If I go to a country where I'm not a 1.00

04:51:20.160 citizen and I'm there illegally,

04:51:21.900 they should kick me out.

04:51:24.240 They do everywhere by here.

04:51:27.280 That's why people

04:51:28.060 come here because it's easy to come in.

04:51:29.980 It's easy to come into America. 0.96

04:51:31.240 It was not wrong for Japan to kick people out. 1.00

04:51:33.580 It's only wrong when the United States got it together.

04:51:35.940 It's the same situation.

04:51:37.080 If they had established a life in Iran somehow, figured it out, and then we just kick them to their... 1.00

04:51:41.780 But they're still illegal.

04:51:42.620 I mean, they kick them to their whole country.

04:51:43.560 Wait, wait, wait, question.

04:51:44.480 Who agrees with her?

04:51:45.800 Like, who's against the deportations?

04:51:49.260 You're against deportations?

04:51:50.540 Anyone else?

04:51:51.880 So I think it's a bit more conservative-leaning panel.

04:51:54.220 But you're also, and I guess, could you echo some of your own positions on this?

04:52:00.860 like what why are you against ice why are you against deportations i don't think that anyone

04:52:06.460 is illegal on stolen land see just regurgitation but that's the truth that is the truth tick tock

04:52:14.300 told me that nobody's illegal on stolen billy eilish we didn't kill native americans 1.00

04:52:25.020 most of the native american native americans who were killed were died from disease that is not

04:52:29.980 true it is absolutely true we killed it we killed it we stole their land even if they did die from 0.98

04:52:36.160 diseases you think it's okay we brought the disease we still killed them indirectly so it's 0.64

04:52:40.300 a colonization problem is it let me ask you a question then about that when spanish explorers

04:52:49.740 came to central america and found that they were performing human sacrifice in huge numbers and

04:52:55.720 they stopped it by force were they wrong no i don't know why not if i walked in like this day

04:53:03.060 and age and saw that i'll be like yeah that's fucked up but back in that time frame i i don't 0.97

04:53:07.020 know what they were doing they could have been having they were performing human sacrifice in

04:53:10.920 huge numbers archaeological in the 15 1600s okay yeah that's a completely different time i mean

04:53:16.020 mummies i mean people were like i mean it was that was just it's just all a completely different 1.00

04:53:19.640 time frame what that's just what are you talking about it's a completely different

04:53:24.360 let's let her talk about it let's let her talk about it go ahead

04:53:27.400 me yeah about my your position why yeah um so all right um yeah no one's illegal on stolen land

04:53:39.060 but uh sorry i literally is there any land i don't understand is there any land that's not

04:53:47.320 stolen yeah yeah when you say yeah hold on when you say stolen land can you what does that mean 0.54

04:53:53.880 no one's illegal on stolen well that's great you just fucking repeated the same thing so 0.89

04:54:02.500 if a land is stolen by people how hold on what is stolen land

04:54:08.720 land that was like stolen land is land that was stolen okay that's through colonization

04:54:17.040 through colonization yes is all land in america colonized land that's that's not really that's

04:54:25.820 not really the point that i was getting i think it's the whole okay so what is stolen land 0.91

04:54:31.000 okay but answer the question what is stolen land land i'm landed stolen that makes no fucking 0.96

04:54:39.940 sense okay what does that mean the same you're asking the same question no but if you say

04:54:45.200 stolen land yes see they they have these catchphrases but they don't even they don't

04:54:50.760 they just repeat no one is illegal on stolen land what is stolen land i believe that it's

04:54:56.080 stolen from native americans okay so are there which particular pieces of land were stolen from

04:55:01.520 native americans and which specific tribe there were different tribes there was and was all was

04:55:10.620 all land in the americas belonging to native americans i don't know if all land in america

04:55:17.740 was belonging well actually most of the land in the united states was actually bought

04:55:21.900 is my understanding yes like the louisiana purchase and most of it was bought

04:55:26.880 okay well my belief at the end of the day wait oh no that's really good really good i have

04:55:32.860 something really good for this okay so do you think native america hold on do you think native

04:55:38.380 americans in the united states or whatever it was before the united states uh in the americas

04:55:45.020 do you think native american americans occupied all pieces of land within the united states

04:55:50.620 or were there probably not were there some pieces of land that were unoccupied there were probably

04:55:55.540 pieces of land that were unoccupied so if i could point out to you perhaps in various state

04:56:01.980 territories that there was land that was not at any point occupied by native americans and it's

04:56:07.520 genuinely it's not stolen land it was just land that was either discovered or purchased or whatever

04:56:13.600 uh and it's property and territory of the united states government and there's an illegal immigrant

04:56:18.980 living on the not stolen land are you fine with illegal uh deportation of illegal immigrants on

04:56:24.200 the not stolen land am i fine with deportation of illegal immigrants on land in the united states 0.99

04:56:32.760 that's not stolen because you'd agree that there's some land in the united states that's not stolen

04:56:37.440 that's perhaps currently a city i don't know i couldn't point to the precise area nevada probably

04:56:43.220 yeah we have some in wyoming right like uh yeah yeah okay so then let's not even say the phrase

04:56:51.240 anymore my belief is still the same wait wait well hold on because you're i tried to walk her

04:56:57.640 through that no no you're focused on the phrase i said that everyone says well you because the

04:57:03.800 basis was it's stolen land so you have no right to deport but we're we've colonized now like the

04:57:09.900 all of america is now us so even the parts that were stolen i don't know the statistic on it but

04:57:14.760 i bet most of the land was occupied by native americans so let's even grant that 60 percent

04:57:20.660 of the land was stolen oh my god 60 of the land was stolen 40 of the land wasn't so if you find

04:57:27.060 an illegal immigrant on land that was not stolen fine to deport them then no because we still own 1.00

04:57:32.240 all of the land how would that be relevant because we how would it be relevant it's relevant because

04:57:37.540 we stole the land that then we all connect i mean we're all connected it's all one thing what i don't

04:57:43.800 I'm so sorry.

04:57:45.360 I'm trying my best.

04:57:47.900 I'm trying my best. 1.00

04:57:50.680 That's what you're fucking doing. 0.99

04:57:52.380 That's so funny. 1.00

04:57:53.300 One of my coworkers compares me to Donnie all of the time.

04:58:00.240 Mouth noises.

04:58:02.120 Literally nothing.

04:58:03.300 Hold on.

04:58:03.660 I have a TTS here, and then we'll get back to it.

04:58:05.760 Thank you, unknown soldier.

04:58:06.720 Good to see you again.

04:58:09.580 Thank you, man.

04:58:13.800 ago when she said she wasn't going to

04:58:16.020 his kids. Thank God.

04:58:18.260 You woke up, brother. It's for you.

04:58:19.660 The world needs a brainless woke trash. 1.00

04:58:21.420 Thank you, Unknown Soldier. 1.00

04:58:22.660 Can somebody be illegal on

04:58:25.760 non-stolen land?

04:58:29.960 I honestly regret

04:58:31.820 even saying that

04:58:33.820 sentence because now I can't talk about

04:58:35.860 my viewpoints. Why not?

04:58:38.280 Because now you're stuck on this

04:58:39.800 sentence. But hold on.

04:58:43.300 Wait.

04:58:43.800 What?

04:58:44.520 Well, now I can't talk about my viewpoints.

04:58:48.400 Well, your viewpoints, here.

04:58:49.860 Okay, so your position, if I have it correct, regardless of whether the land is stolen or not, you still object to deportations.

04:58:58.080 I object to deportations of anyone who is not a violent, I don't, I think that violent criminals can be deported.

04:59:10.820 Illegal immigrant. 1.00

04:59:11.700 Yeah, illegal, violent criminals. 1.00

04:59:15.520 So you're fine with those deportations?

04:59:18.680 If it's literally illegal, violent criminals, I mean, I don't, there's no reason to tear apart families.

04:59:26.260 Yes, there is.

04:59:26.780 What if they're not?

04:59:28.240 What if we're not tearing apart the family, we just say the whole family goes back to their homeland? 1.00

04:59:34.400 They're not doing anything wrong.

04:59:36.800 They came here illegally. 0.99

04:59:38.740 Who, who?

04:59:39.380 Do you own a house

04:59:43.140 Or rent a house

04:59:44.580 Do you have roommates or is it just you

04:59:47.740 No right now I just

04:59:48.820 Right now I have an apartment

04:59:49.960 You have your one bedroom two bedroom apartment

04:59:52.140 Three

04:59:52.680 Just for you

04:59:54.100 Yes 0.63

04:59:54.900 White female privilege 1.00

04:59:57.660 So Brian can just crash there

05:00:01.620 I can just walk

05:00:02.720 Why not

05:00:03.920 Who are you to kick him out

05:00:06.100 That's rude

05:00:06.940 I'm not, I'm like, I'm, yeah, you don't own it.

05:00:09.480 Hold on.

05:00:09.820 So I am occupying one of the empty bedrooms in your three bed.

05:00:15.320 She has a three bedroom apartment to herself.

05:00:17.980 Why haven't you housed any illegal immigrants?

05:00:20.300 Yeah.

05:00:21.940 I would.

05:00:23.220 You would?

05:00:24.060 Yeah. 1.00

05:00:24.800 Bullfucking shit. 1.00

05:00:25.780 Yeah. 1.00

05:00:26.060 Wait, shake on it.

05:00:27.600 Okay.

05:00:28.220 We're going to, we're going to go fine.

05:00:29.240 No, no, no, no.

05:00:32.420 I'm saying this on a, I'm saying this on a podcast right now,

05:00:35.880 But I actually talked to my grandma, and I had a discussion about this.

05:00:39.200 Oh, you talked?

05:00:40.080 Oh, yeah.

05:00:41.480 Hey, everybody, let us know who needs a home, an illegal immigrant who needs homes. 1.00

05:00:47.800 We've got two spare bedrooms.

05:00:49.920 They are free.

05:00:51.560 You know, she would never charge you anything because it wouldn't be right to do.

05:00:55.240 But it can't be a man.

05:00:56.700 No man.

05:00:57.380 No, it could be a man.

05:00:58.260 No, no, she doesn't like men.

05:00:59.940 No, it could be a man.

05:01:00.780 Wait, can we deport the men?

05:01:02.240 Can we deport the illegal men? 1.00

05:01:03.960 Yeah.

05:01:04.160 She doesn't have a beard

05:01:05.140 No, I had a feeling

05:01:07.360 Oh boy

05:01:09.900 So does everybody understand now 0.99

05:01:11.900 Because I get so much shit about this 0.97

05:01:14.460 And I want to ask all the haters 0.98

05:01:15.880 Do you now understand why I don't want them to vote

05:01:18.160 You also

05:01:18.680 You have no proof of anything

05:01:22.420 Neither do you

05:01:23.360 Can I see the proof

05:01:25.260 I would love to come back sometime

05:01:28.020 After I've been able to do research

05:01:30.120 Do a debate with me

05:01:31.400 I will print some stuff out

05:01:32.740 I will write.

05:01:33.540 You want to do a one-to-me-one?

05:01:34.460 I would love to after I have time to prepare.

05:01:37.320 Give me time to prepare.

05:01:38.480 You should have prepared before this. 0.99

05:01:39.000 I didn't know what the fuck we were talking about. 0.97

05:01:40.700 I thought this was a dating podcast. 0.96

05:01:41.660 I will give you as much time to prepare as you want, and you can pick the topic, and

05:01:46.400 we will debate.

05:01:46.860 Rachel will debate you with a blindfold, and she has to be hung up. 1.00

05:01:52.260 Do you drink, Rachel?

05:01:53.100 I can't drink because of my hemochromatosis.

05:01:55.240 Oh, you know what?

05:01:56.780 She can give me super stoned to the point that I don't know where I am, and then I'll 1.00

05:02:01.540 blindfold myself.

05:02:02.460 Rachel will be blindfolded, and we're going to actually have her through sleep deprivation for 24 hours. 0.99

05:02:11.340 We're going to have her listening to something, I don't know, Barbie girl on repeat for 10 hours.

05:02:17.140 Just in her earphones.

05:02:18.680 Yeah, and she will come and debate you just as a handicap. 1.00

05:02:21.640 I need time to prepare, but I guarantee that I will be able to prove more stuff than you guys will be able to prove.

05:02:27.380 I'm ready. I'm down.

05:02:28.500 honestly though i do think it's white liberal women who are kind of 1.00

05:02:33.240 ruining the country a little bit i don't mean i'm i don't i'm no offense i align more with

05:02:39.060 liberal beliefs but i believe all politicians are bad i do not like bill clinton i do not like

05:02:43.500 hillary hillary they're democrats i do yeah but let's not talk about the people we're talking

05:02:48.060 about the ideas the ideas yes but i don't think any politician is good i think they are all corrupt

05:02:52.960 and they are all have alternate means that sounds like other cool stuff you heard someone say

05:02:58.240 that's great yeah yeah i'm so ready okay but what about the will of the people that don't want

05:03:03.700 illegal immigrants in this country the what's the will okay but you're saying well i don't like 1.00

05:03:09.060 uh politicians okay cool that aside uh if there's a will of the people that they don't want illegal

05:03:15.600 immigrants in this country then yeah you have to contend with that not just we're showing 1.00

05:03:21.420 politicians like like all of these protests are demonstrating how much americans that's a tiny

05:03:27.480 tiny tiny minority of the population the vast majority of us voted for trump because we wanted

05:03:33.800 to and there's also a lot of republicans that are now regretting voting for wait i don't even

05:03:37.840 understand this argument they're they're regretting it because he's not deporting enough

05:03:41.860 people there's a lot he needs to yeah he needs to step it up a lot he's way behind wait but i

05:03:47.720 don't understand the argument of well there's all these protests that are against him therefore 0.98

05:03:52.320 he's wrong we have a january 6 she said they let them in i want to go back to that so why the fuck 0.99

05:04:00.060 would they let them in in a protest if that was a good question if that was a black lives matter 0.97

05:04:04.660 protest they would not have let them and they were destroyed you're right you should probably

05:04:08.940 think about why that might be because they're supporting black lives that doesn't make any 0.99

05:04:13.880 no you said i don't understand why they let the jsex protest you should think about nancy pelos

05:04:20.220 just you should think about why they would let in the protesters you should go home

05:04:26.980 and let it let it marinate for a while and maybe you'll come up with a reason why they did that

05:04:33.020 so they were chanting hang nancy nancy poloski weren't they saying that right yes they were 0.98

05:04:38.360 and they were in there and they destroyed shit in there they were stealing shit they broke like 0.99

05:04:42.880 a keyboard that is so i'm so i i need to look up some shit yeah you need to look up a lot of shit 0.99

05:04:48.380 I'm ready to look up some shit because I'm ready. 0.98

05:04:51.420 You've been watching a lot of TikTok. 0.99

05:04:52.760 So there were agitators outside chanting, hang Mike Pence.

05:04:57.840 That's what I meant.

05:04:59.200 But they were proven to be FBI, undercover FBI and Antifa.

05:05:04.820 I would love to see those sources too.

05:05:07.320 You realize there's court documentation of this one.

05:05:09.260 Yes, and I want to look at it.

05:05:10.340 I want to see it.

05:05:11.140 Yes.

05:05:11.580 Oh, my God.

05:05:12.920 Okay, we have a super chat here.

05:05:14.580 Brian asked chair three about the land

05:05:17.740 stolen from tribes by other

05:05:19.260 Native American tribes

05:05:20.780 yeah

05:05:21.560 thoughts on that

05:05:24.080 are you just nuked

05:05:27.480 or what's going on

05:05:28.700 I really need like an energy drink

05:05:31.520 okay

05:05:32.960 we can get her an energy 0.89

05:05:35.160 get her a little energy drink 0.98

05:05:36.780 those purple ones are really good

05:05:38.560 they're zero sugar

05:05:39.920 I think I'd rather have the drink

05:05:43.520 But so, do you think we should return the stolen land?

05:05:48.940 Wasn't that what reservations are?

05:05:50.640 Can you, like, phrase the question?

05:05:53.860 So, about land stolen from tribes by other, so Native Americans stealing other Native American tribes? 0.77

05:06:02.020 Stealing the tribes?

05:06:03.000 No, stealing the land.

05:06:04.120 Stealing the land.

05:06:04.760 I told you I need an energy train.

05:06:06.440 Yeah, so, well, here's something to meditate on.

05:06:11.580 before the appearance of white people in the americas these tribes these native american

05:06:19.060 tribes were warring with each other for uh centuries centuries before before the appearance

05:06:27.220 of the spanish before the appearance of the british before before the appearance of you know

05:06:32.080 any white culture right they've been they were warring with each other they were fighting each 0.80

05:06:36.240 other. They were enslaving each other. You can see this in North America. You can see in Central

05:06:41.800 America. You can see it in South America. You had the Incas. You had the Aztecs. You had the Mayans.

05:06:48.340 You had various Native American tribes in what is now the United States. They were fighting each

05:06:53.660 other. They were conquering each other. And they did it for conquest. They wanted their game.

05:06:58.980 They wanted their land. They wanted the resources. So the question is, if this land, this stolen land, passed through the hands of two, three, four, five, six, seven different tribes and one conquered the next and one conquered the other, to which tribe would we return the stolen land to?

05:07:20.380 to the final native american tribe that had the land that stole it 10 years prior from

05:07:27.340 this uh tribe that had been conquered by you know the apache do we who do we return it to 0.63

05:07:33.920 i think it's far too late for any of that like i feel i feel like it's far

05:07:39.300 like yeah like it's far too late like so much has been done it's far too late for any of that i

05:07:45.860 don't think that that's not i wasn't saying that that should happen i just do your parents own land

05:07:51.620 yes like do they own the house yeah it's not like a apartment it's like a house yeah and they're

05:07:58.140 from california too yes like they own land in california um in a couple places okay oh they

05:08:06.880 own more than one property yeah that's very privileged um in other states yeah uh okay

05:08:14.280 how many different properties do they own two okay so one in california one another state

05:08:20.340 if a native american tribe approached your family and said hey your house is built

05:08:26.580 on our ancestral territory would you be willing to hand the deed over

05:08:32.440 it's far too long i mean it's not my house well okay your parents own it yeah

05:08:44.280 But say either one day you own a house, but, I mean, are you an only child?

05:08:49.920 Yes.

05:08:50.720 Okay, so, I mean, you're the heir of your parents' property,

05:08:55.120 so that land would eventually come to you,

05:08:57.860 assuming they don't sell it before they pass away.

05:09:02.880 So would you be fine with your – well, would –

05:09:07.360 do you think your parents would give it to the Native American tribe that contacted them?

05:09:11.840 Would you be okay with that?

05:09:14.280 I don't know.

05:09:16.360 Again, I think it's far too late for this discussion.

05:09:18.980 Why would it be late?

05:09:20.860 Because it's too late.

05:09:23.420 It happened a while ago.

05:09:24.480 If we're going to talk about stolen land, and you're going to say there's no one illegal on stolen land,

05:09:28.700 that we can't enact laws on stolen land,

05:09:32.500 if the land is, in fact, stolen,

05:09:35.480 if somebody stole something from you, should you give it back to them?

05:09:40.380 If someone stole something from me, should I give it back to them?

05:09:43.960 sorry did i miss that if somebody stole something from you should they give it back to you yes okay

05:09:49.560 so if your parents owned property or you owned property how uh real estate on stolen native

05:09:57.200 american ancestral tribal land should you give it back sure and you would do that sure the reality 0.80

05:10:06.800 is there's no fucking way you spend a million dollars on some property or the the value of 0.93

05:10:12.520 the land and the house is worth a million dollars. 0.99

05:10:14.780 There's no fucking way that you would ever give it, 0.98

05:10:18.340 give the deed to a Native American tribe. 1.00

05:10:21.000 No fucking way you do that. 0.99

05:10:22.420 Okay, but this is just you trying to catch me in something 0.99

05:10:25.380 instead of talking about my beliefs on anything.

05:10:28.180 I mean, we're still on the discussion.

05:10:30.220 No, because we're still on the whole topic of me saying

05:10:34.560 no one's illegal on stolen land.

05:10:36.420 At the end of the day, my viewpoint is not going to change,

05:10:39.440 and i don't think that illegal immigrants should be deported i think he's trying to understand like

05:10:46.860 okay why you yeah like you you say that but then you he asks this hypothetical question you say

05:10:52.960 yes i would give it to him so in a sense like i think he's just trying to understand like your

05:11:00.060 logic behind the fact that you say it's relevant now but then if he's like okay so if native

05:11:05.440 americans are like can you give me back my land back you're saying oh that's too late it's too 0.98

05:11:09.480 late to talk about that but you're making it a relevant excuse as to why people shouldn't be

05:11:15.780 deported you're using the fact that it's stolen land as an excuse so that should that means it's

05:11:20.260 relevant now you're saying it's too late to change true then why is it relevant right now

05:11:24.260 it never should have happened in the first place yeah it never it never you guys are talking about

05:11:28.620 the past exactly right there's been like more war and more very detrimental ways of getting people

05:11:36.280 kicked out of the country than right now i would say i would go as far as to say as though everyone

05:11:40.440 wants to talk about the world being really bad i think we have evolved i think that we are i mean

05:11:46.460 to put it frankly the fact that you have the ability and the freedom and the time to go out

05:11:51.700 and protest for rights is already privileged that shows that we are a lot better in the world

05:11:56.820 because that would not be on somebody's mind 100 years ago

05:11:59.620 when Genghis Khan was killing everybody and conquering land.

05:12:03.720 And he killed so much people that the temperature of the world lowered.

05:12:08.160 So he conquered so much.

05:12:10.580 You know what I'm saying?

05:12:13.000 No one's talking about that.

05:12:14.940 Everyone talks about Genghis Khan being this great leader,

05:12:16.600 but the fact that you're using stolen land as an excuse to right now,

05:12:20.420 to this modern day and age, is kind of ludicrous in my opinion.

05:12:26.820 Like, why use that as an excuse now, but then go back and say, well, like, it's in the past.

05:12:31.060 You know, that means, like, people, warlords, like Genghis Khan, he should be held just as accountable.

05:12:36.540 But he's seen as, like, a powerful person, and no one takes into consideration, like, he literally conquered a lot of the world.

05:12:43.780 I more so mean, like, it's happened so long ago, but it never should have happened in the first place.

05:12:49.640 I'm not saying it should have ever happened in the first place.

05:12:51.960 this isn't the only country that's had land taken stolen whatever you want to use

05:12:58.780 at the end of the day you don't have any proof that the native americans were the first ones

05:13:03.200 here what are you talking about do you have the proof yeah do you have the proof it was

05:13:08.260 it was absolutely concrete okay so absolutely i don't have it on me but i'm sure i could find

05:13:12.740 some factual evidence of native americans but you don't know why are they called native americans

05:13:17.280 because that's just what they were called

05:13:19.640 first of all respectfully

05:13:23.220 when Christopher Columbus came to America

05:13:25.840 was it called America?

05:13:27.800 they decided to call America America

05:13:31.440 so the natives of the land 0.99

05:13:34.440 are Native Americans

05:13:35.960 but how do you know they were the first ones

05:13:41.880 on this specific land?

05:13:43.620 they actually weren't

05:13:44.540 It's been proven that foundational black Americans can go back. 0.99

05:13:50.240 They've gone back over 17 generations now.

05:13:52.700 Either way, they were the ones that were here when we came here.

05:13:55.160 But there were people there before them.

05:13:57.260 So what you're telling me.

05:13:58.660 Oh, my God.

05:13:59.360 Honestly, bro.

05:14:00.560 Okay.

05:14:01.240 So do you think that should we just have open borders?

05:14:06.040 Should anybody be able to come here?

05:14:09.680 I think we should all live off the land and just have cults.

05:14:11.800 Oh, my God.

05:14:12.320 Oh, my God.

05:14:12.880 Basically cults, just a big cult groups that choose their plot of land and they all live together.

05:14:16.840 They have groups like that.

05:14:18.660 They have groups like that if you want.

05:14:20.400 Do I think we should have borders?

05:14:23.100 Some type of borders, sure.

05:14:26.500 I guess.

05:14:26.660 What does that mean?

05:14:27.240 What's the point of having a border if people can come here illegally and have no repercussion for it?

05:14:32.540 I mean, but there's other places.

05:14:34.940 No, what?

05:14:35.780 There's other places that have borders.

05:14:37.400 You're running around in circles.

05:14:38.380 you're saying we should have borders which means some people are allowed to cross and some people

05:14:44.200 aren't so you're saying that when people aren't allowed to do something we should just yellow 1.00

05:14:48.440 fuck it yellow fuck it only women sure fuck it when you say some type of border like what would 1.00

05:14:54.960 be the purpose of your border like what would you want from it ideally it's capable out right 1.00

05:15:01.960 to protect you what's the point of having it then if everyone if anyone can just go in and out

05:15:07.280 without protection okay then no borders like okay but i don't want to it's because i don't

05:15:16.560 want to keep having this argument i i mean we're just circling around the same topic over and over 0.98

05:15:21.740 she wants to talk about small penis humiliation exactly she wants to talk about ball crushing 0.98

05:15:30.300 all right we have uh rakanaki brian remind chair two that in the 1970s a black supremacist 0.99

05:15:40.320 supremacist group excuse me literally stormed the capital with ak-47s they held part of the

05:15:45.540 building and were eventually captured but ultimately many were released and their

05:15:49.120 guns were returned to them chair two assumed racism yeah true that was also in 1970 and we

05:15:55.620 are in 20 wait i love this wait i love this how long ago did we steal the land from native americans 0.87

05:16:01.880 i have no fucking clue it was it doesn't it doesn't matter though because it happened a long 0.98

05:16:06.320 time ago right it's the principle that the fact of the matter is it's fucked up wait can i ask 0.99

05:16:09.960 you a question can i ask you a question uh when did slavery happen oh brother i don't know it was 0.96

05:16:15.140 a long time ago was it the 1970s no no no no was it the 1970s i'm thinking wasn't it 17 1776 around

05:16:24.020 there around there what am i wrong i don't know i have no clue okay slavery it was hundreds of

05:16:30.760 years ago right yes i do i have no fucking idea yeah so uh it happened a long time ago so it 0.92

05:16:37.720 doesn't matter then is that your point no that's not what i'm saying you were saying because you

05:16:42.860 okay he said it happened a long time ago so it does matter slavery does matter because you're

05:16:47.280 like oh my god 1970 that's why are we talking about it's a different time frame so when that

05:16:51.800 happened in 1970s and then it happened again in 2020 it's a that's what is that 50 years i mean

05:16:56.760 that's uh okay guys ten dollar display 99 read 200 tts speaking of tts we have based justin here

05:17:05.200 thank you man appreciate it based justin donated 200 thank you dude i'm happy to offer up a

05:17:11.580 therapeutic i can certainly arrange for you both to get denaturalized to whatever land you think

05:17:18.340 belongs to you let's go english is the official language of uganda

05:17:22.240 yeah i don't know ultimately i think can i go to iceland i would love to go to iceland

05:17:28.760 yeah um oh really quick i need to do a few shout outs here we have uh john straight thank for the

05:17:35.960 25 on venmo michael michael and uh michael w thank for the 25 on venmo i think you sent it twice

05:17:44.100 thank you for the double 25 on venmo katrina katrina d thank you for the 10 and uh troy thank

05:17:51.440 for the 10 if i already didn't say it kristin thank for the 10 on cash app kristin m thank you

05:17:57.560 and christian l thank for the one appreciate you guys okay uh let's get you know what let's

05:18:02.900 let's get into some dating stuff real quick um before the show started you guys were having

05:18:08.140 girl talk a little bit and i heard somebody say i think it was you talking about an ex-husband 0.97

05:18:12.680 and you were pregnant and your feet were hurting

05:18:15.780 and he didn't give you a foot rub.

05:18:18.700 I was getting foot cramps,

05:18:20.120 which is commonly a side effect of being pregnant, 1.00

05:18:22.600 and he doesn't like feet,

05:18:24.160 so he wouldn't help me get the foot cramp to go away.

05:18:27.500 Okay, what does the panel think?

05:18:28.740 Do you think, is it fair you have a disliking towards feet,

05:18:32.300 he doesn't want to do it,

05:18:33.260 or should he have manned up or something?

05:18:36.820 I mean, he could have paid.

05:18:38.280 He was the provider and the protector in their relationship, right?

05:18:41.100 So I was saying to her earlier,

05:18:42.680 you could have paid to go yeah i mean if you don't like feet i okay that's that's a creative

05:18:48.520 solution by the time i got to some place that could do that though it probably would have

05:18:52.680 gone away on its own i thought it was wild because you mentioned your ex was a marine corps right

05:18:58.960 yeah in the marine corps and i was like oh but you wouldn't touch your wife's feet

05:19:04.180 is wild to me that i think is kind of nuts it's kind of weird but you know consent

05:19:10.260 if he doesn't want to touch your feet he shouldn't have to but that also being said

05:19:14.700 she is carrying his child just carrying his child you know you know but i think like consent 0.93

05:19:19.640 if he doesn't want to touch feet like maybe he has a super strong aversion to feet i mean that's

05:19:26.440 totally fine if he doesn't want to then okay all right i mean i didn't like throwing up either but

05:19:32.140 i didn't get a choice about that oh you didn't like throwing up no yeah it's kind of something

05:19:37.600 that happens so when you're pregnant sometimes but you kind of consent to it because you know

05:19:42.520 if you get pregnant that's going to entail some level of sickness i feel like now having had two

05:19:48.480 children i if i got pregnant now knowing that but yeah that would probably happen that was the first 0.99

05:19:55.400 time i want more kids i my daughter's almost four i don't necessarily love the idea of three

05:20:03.400 children by three different guys um hey i mean you can and you know the last relationship really

05:20:11.100 really hurt my trust and i feel like i would need time to get to the point where sure but

05:20:16.940 you know if there was magic button where i could like stop aging or whatnot okay uh desert jorge

05:20:23.220 chair two is the new poster child for why the 19th needs to be repealed i would love to see a fly with

05:20:29.240 my face on it it's to be i i will give up my voting rights for that i'll give up my license

05:20:36.220 i mean like i sometimes i said i sometimes do ponder if it is women who are ushering in

05:20:44.180 policy that will be destructive to the nation 0.98

05:20:48.400 i don't know straight sexist though just because i'm stupid doesn't mean all the other women are 1.00

05:20:56.720 stupid you guys have don't call yourself you may be slightly uneducated but don't don't say that 0.99

05:21:05.000 about yourself that's not kind no i'm just saying though just because i'm i'm one i'm one person 1.00

05:21:10.360 that doesn't mean i keep saying i guarantee it again just because i'm stupid doesn't mean all 0.94

05:21:15.860 the other women are stupid i guarantee i'm okay with that all right i guarantee i just need if i 1.00

05:21:22.400 have time to look up some shit i would i i can be so much smarter i swear so you're uneducated 1.00

05:21:30.000 and ignorant yes and i could be i thought this was a dating show podcast i didn't know 0.99

05:21:36.300 if i knew we were gonna be talking about politics i would have 0.95

05:21:42.960 all right uh going around the table what is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband

05:21:52.020 I feel like I'm still really young

05:21:54.920 25 is young

05:21:56.080 I don't feel like you have to have everything figured out

05:21:59.240 By then you don't have to be making a certain amount of money

05:22:01.280 In order to be capable of dating me

05:22:03.680 Kind of thing

05:22:04.300 Like my boyfriend certainly was not making

05:22:06.780 Let's just get some quick answers

05:22:08.060 I think like 50 grand is

05:22:10.800 80,000

05:22:12.460 75k for wife

05:22:15.480 Future wife

05:22:17.260 If it was a husband

05:22:19.160 How much would he have to make?

05:22:22.020 infinity for it to be a man yes all right what about you enough to buy a house okay 60k all

05:22:29.340 right what about you 50 60 okay enough to pay mortgage and bills based on location all right

05:22:35.800 period i would say ideally around what i make or a little bit more i don't like to say that exact

05:22:48.580 number, but for my area, above average income. Where are you from again? New York. Oh, you do

05:22:56.120 live in Manhattan? I'm at the border of the boroughs. I'm in Brooklyn or Queens. I'm in

05:23:05.360 Westchester County. Oh, Westchester. Okay. All right. So a bit north, right? That's north

05:23:11.040 of manhattan slightly very slight okay uh all right um well rachel you're already married and 0.97

05:23:19.620 andrew's doing quite well for himself uh he does okay but neither of us had shit when we got

05:23:27.600 together so for the longest period yeah you're supposed to grow together yeah all right uh how 0.56

05:23:33.720 tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date i am five five and

05:23:38.640 maybe like five eight you know nothing five six six foot really quick yes remember earlier

05:23:47.680 when you were like i don't care about looks well here's my if i would ever date someone it would

05:23:54.740 have to be such a because i would like if a very specific person came along i probably would date

05:24:00.740 him but the thing is i think it's either going to take me till i'm a lot older to reach that point

05:24:05.360 or it's gonna take like it's i'm not just gonna settle down for anyone if i'm marrying them like

05:24:11.400 wanting to be with them for the rest of my life wait so i was right earlier when i said that

05:24:16.100 you're a mid who's just like but no one's good enough for me unless they're like a nine like 1.00

05:24:20.640 personality wise more than anything i wouldn't say that as long as he's six foot and he's got

05:24:25.720 i just felt like i had to put out an answer i'm sorry i'm just confused because you said you were

05:24:31.000 just there you were saying that uh well if i don't because you you don't want to settle down

05:24:37.640 like you you don't want to get into a relationship but the guy that you would get into a relationship

05:24:43.120 has to be like really good no he doesn't have to be like super attractive right i just wait to just

05:24:50.120 have like a fun little casual thing can he be shorter than six foot absolutely he that's but

05:24:55.020 To be in a relationship?

05:24:56.280 That's my ideal.

05:24:57.020 Wait, that's so backwards.

05:24:58.260 So, like, sort of.

05:25:00.060 So, okay.

05:25:00.740 The guy you'll be in a relationship. 0.96

05:25:01.800 I'll bang anyone.

05:25:02.900 But if I'm going to be in a relationship, you've got to be perfect. 1.00

05:25:06.160 She'll fuck anybody. 1.00

05:25:07.220 That's not what I said. 1.00

05:25:08.820 Go, man.

05:25:09.380 That's kind of what you said. 1.00

05:25:10.420 Fuck. 1.00

05:25:10.720 All right. 1.00

05:25:11.160 What about height?

05:25:12.720 I'm 5'3", and I don't care about.

05:25:15.020 Don't care?

05:25:15.480 Okay.

05:25:15.680 What about you?

05:25:16.340 5'10".

05:25:16.980 I prefer at least six feet.

05:25:18.840 Six feet?

05:25:19.320 But, like, 6'2", 6'4", would be better.

05:25:21.720 6'2", 6'4". 0.99

05:25:22.860 Damn. 0.98

05:25:23.300 Would be better than 6'8". 0.99

05:25:24.460 it would be better but i mean it's like a sliding scale like yeah if somebody is closer to my height

05:25:32.900 they better be like amazing and all the other so i gotta make up for it well like can like a guy 0.99

05:25:37.940 who's six foot five just be a piece of shit no okay no higher you get up uh what about you 0.99

05:25:44.380 i'm five i'm five two and five five five six i'm just at least three inches taller 1.00

05:25:50.700 because I think it's fun to look up.

05:25:54.020 Well, there is a thing, though, where women will, like, 1.00

05:25:57.080 as the guy becomes more attractive, or this even has to do with height,

05:26:00.220 like, if he's taller, women will ignore red flags.

05:26:03.000 Oh, yeah.

05:26:03.720 Like, the more attractive he is, the more leeway you give

05:26:08.040 with, like, red flags and stuff.

05:26:09.540 What about you?

05:26:11.000 I'm 5'8", and as long as there's, like, an inch or two taller, I, you know.

05:26:16.320 Okay.

05:26:16.640 What about you?

05:26:17.340 I'm 5'3", and at least 5'4".

05:26:19.740 All right.

05:26:20.120 What about you?

05:26:20.700 i'm five feet and i would say five four so i can wear heels okay all right i'm five foot six and

05:26:29.520 just my height would be good like my first little puppy love boyfriend was the same height as me but

05:26:35.760 he was really cute so i didn't care okay got it um wait hold on we have chatty wait chatty annie

05:26:43.580 oh these are out of order wait hold on oh no oh no his papers Alexis Lexi that's you right

05:26:51.860 okay hold on oh okay hold on wait let's see uh disagreement uh Raven you disagree yes about the

05:27:00.600 views on women you wrote that as a disagreement what are the views on women that either I or

05:27:06.980 Rachel or I guess Andrew Wilson have that you disagree with because he's here

05:27:13.180 all of them yes i mean but i need specificity what specifically uh

05:27:19.020 wait for one wait wait i think women are great you disagree with that the way you talk you 1.00

05:27:28.340 fucking sexist misogynist i think women are wonderful i think women are great you disagree 1.00

05:27:34.100 with all my views on women wow that's fucked up yeah fuck women honestly all right there you go 1.00

05:27:39.920 But it's okay. What are the views that you find objectionable? 0.99

05:27:44.100 So you said, oh, God, it's honestly a lot of Andrew Wilson's views.

05:27:52.080 Okay, we can dive into it.

05:27:53.340 For sure.

05:27:55.440 First of all, I don't like the way that he talks to women on. 0.91

05:27:59.360 So tone, okay.

05:28:00.760 Tone, for sure.

05:28:01.540 Well, let's list a few before we dive into any.

05:28:03.760 I think he's actually nicer than me.

05:28:05.700 He might be.

05:28:06.260 Don't you think? 0.89

05:28:06.880 You are so mean. No, I'm just kidding.

05:28:09.000 um no you andrew's really patient and he's usually like 95 of the time he's very calm

05:28:16.700 very chill extremely patient he's a teddy bear so you've probably seen clips of the one or two

05:28:23.140 times that after like six hours of some girl just being absolutely obnoxious and horrible he finally

05:28:29.680 got a little bit testy no no i actually watched like a longer video it was actually on the whatever

05:28:37.280 podcast and it was what do you know which one that I'm thinking of it's it's the one where

05:28:45.200 the girl is crying because she had like the not like not boyfriend on a dog bed oh you were upset

05:28:56.960 about that okay oh wait that makes sense because she does that too okay yeah well no so it wasn't

05:29:03.880 even i think what made me upset about that is that she wasn't even like she wasn't even really

05:29:11.320 into fandom or anything it seemed like the guy yeah but it seemed like that guy was the one who

05:29:18.960 wanted all of that and she was just we already talked about that and like look you can probably 0.61

05:29:24.140 find times where i or rachel or andrew have have said things with a certain tone or maybe we said

05:29:30.680 something slightly mean, but your thing here was, yes, with, uh, you disagree with the views

05:29:36.180 on women. I want to dive into the specific views on women. So what, aside from the tone or the,

05:29:43.920 uh, you know, we said something mean, what are the actual views that you disagree with?

05:29:48.780 I don't think that women were put on the planet to be a wife and a baby maker. Like, 1.00

05:29:57.860 i don't think that the only goal in life for a woman is to have children okay did any of us

05:30:05.420 ever say that was the only not that it was the only goal but it was a very strong goal okay so

05:30:11.000 there's that but before we dive in let's have you list the other views um just like a lot of

05:30:21.400 different ones um do you how about this do you think i am a misogynist i think you're a bit of

05:30:28.940 a misogynist okay um well first we need to define our terms what is a misogynist someone who

05:30:35.700 is sexist towards women well define misogyny what is that the act of

05:30:43.620 being sexist towards women the act of having yeah okay so being sexist towards women yeah

05:30:53.520 i suppose that falls within the purview of misogyny although i typically it's more like a

05:30:58.380 i mean it would be hate hatred of women or prejudice towards women which would be sexism

05:31:06.140 Yes. Okay. Um, so in what ways then am I sexist towards women?

05:31:12.180 I think, I think it's, it's just some of the things you say, like, I can't even think of

05:31:18.080 them right now, but no, because I'll watch your videos and like, I've, I've watched some of them

05:31:23.400 and then I'm like, that's sexist. Okay. But you don't need to like, give me a verbatim word for

05:31:29.860 word quote give me the essence of what i say that you object to well i also don't like the way you

05:31:36.460 talk to women sometimes okay so the tone but but not even just the tone the words okay but could i

05:31:41.940 say could i say like in a really mean tone that i love somebody yes right so okay but that wouldn't

05:31:49.380 be sexist to say i love somebody in a mean way that's kind of weird but kind of contrary you

05:31:55.540 You could say something really rude in a really nice tone.

05:31:58.880 Yeah.

05:31:59.140 You could. 0.98

05:31:59.420 But so even granting that sometimes I might be rude or my tone's all fucked up or whatever. 0.98

05:32:05.480 Yeah. 0.96

05:32:05.980 I don't even dispute it. 1.00

05:32:07.020 I'd probably do that shit. 0.99

05:32:09.280 What is the content of what I'm saying that is sexist? 1.00

05:32:14.100 Because you'd agree with me simply by virtue of saying being rude to some.

05:32:18.060 Like you can be rude to a man as you could to a woman in the tone.

05:32:21.980 that wouldn't be evidence of a sexism uh just because you're rude to a woman doesn't mean 0.99

05:32:26.900 you're sexist women are rude to women all the time it doesn't mean they're sexist 1.00

05:32:30.900 can i ask you a question really quickly yeah so you're upset and you think that he's sexist

05:32:37.700 because of how he's spoken to women right i'm not upset well she thinks i'm sexist okay but you

05:32:43.480 don't you don't necessarily like you know that quality in him that he speaks to women you think

05:32:49.020 in a certain tone or aspect or whatever right you think it's sexist from your own words i'm

05:32:54.980 repeating your own yes yeah but then you literally do that for a living like that is what you do to 0.97

05:33:03.120 make money so like do you know that you're a hypocrite or like they want why is it okay for 0.96

05:33:10.280 you but like the women but the women that he talks to on the podcast willingly come here they do 1.00

05:33:16.740 willingly come on the podcast many of them know the nature of the adverse they know the adversarial

05:33:22.280 nature of the podcast yeah i i know that a lot of the people that come on the podcast probably do

05:33:28.540 prior research but there's some that i've watched and i'm like i don't think she knew because they

05:33:35.160 get that might be true but how would i mean uh even if it is true that she herself is i guess

05:33:42.760 a hypocrite and she, I actually think in some ways what she does is for sure worse than what I do 0.96

05:33:48.380 because like I, I typically avoid insults. Sometimes I do. And many times it's playful 1.00

05:33:55.440 jabbing. It's, it's more teasing, but sometimes, yes, I've, I've said mean things. I'll, I'll even

05:34:00.520 admit to it, but, um, you will do, you'll do small penis humiliation. It would never occur to me, 0.99

05:34:08.480 by the way it would never occur to me as someone who's uh believes in genitalia positivity might

05:34:13.840 be a matter movement i actually am count contrary to you i don't think people like we're doing the

05:34:19.520 exact people yes people should not be i'm doing advocacy i'm an activist people should you're so

05:34:25.120 great men and women should not be shamed for their genitalia if a woman has an outie she should not 1.00

05:34:29.440 be shamed if she hasn't any i mean women with indies don't really get shamed for but that's you

05:34:34.160 You know, it's kind of, you know, it's mostly the women with the, you know, the wizard sleeves, wizard sleeves, you know, that are getting shamed and I defend them. 0.99

05:34:46.120 But I don't you do small penis humiliation. 0.99

05:34:48.920 I'll go to I'll I'll go to bat for men with small peens. 1.00

05:34:53.100 I will defend them. 1.00

05:34:54.240 They could have a micro penis. 1.00

05:34:55.800 Men should not be shamed for their penis size. 1.00

05:34:58.900 And that's why I object to terms like big dick energy, small dick energy. 1.00

05:35:02.720 because i find it very offensive for example i think when women throw out these terms big 0.99

05:35:08.500 energy small energy you guys would take pause if men you know the locker room talk like if i 0.99

05:35:15.340 started saying she's got loose pussy energy or cavernous vagina energy you know you guys women 1.00

05:35:24.420 would take pause and be like oh that's kind of vulgar and uh kind of icky and gross and stuff 1.00

05:35:29.600 Or she's got small, small titty energy, small titty energy, like small titty, like I'll 1.00

05:35:36.520 defend women with small titties, big titties, lopsided titties, fucking saggy titties. 1.00

05:35:41.820 I'll defend them all. 1.00

05:35:42.720 You shouldn't shame women. 0.99

05:35:43.800 You shouldn't shame the women for their titties or whatever. 0.99

05:35:46.780 And you shouldn't shame them for their labia, whether it dangles or it's all over the place. 0.98

05:35:50.860 If it's just like a flapping in the air, you know, you should not shame, you should not

05:35:55.220 shame a woman. 1.00

05:35:56.220 Okay.

05:35:56.580 You shouldn't shame a woman.

05:35:57.820 I don't know where I'm going with this. 0.98

05:35:59.600 I guess back to the central thing here is even if you're a hypocrite that wouldn't really be a 0.58

05:36:14.200 defeater to even if I can point out that you also engage in this behavior your criticism of me may

05:36:20.240 or may not be valid so what specifically am I doing what is the content of what I'm doing

05:36:25.200 that is sexist towards women what are my sexist positions

05:36:29.840 well would you

05:36:39.340 would you date a non-traditional woman

05:36:45.420 um

05:36:48.360 I think even if I say yes or no, this wouldn't establish me as a sexist.

05:36:56.000 That would just be a personal preference.

05:36:57.420 Yeah, that would be a preference.

05:36:58.660 But what is the answer that would make you think I'm more sexist?

05:37:04.660 And I'll answer it that way.

05:37:08.180 No, I would never date a non-traditional woman. 0.93

05:37:10.740 How does it make me sexist?

05:37:11.840 I just think that your views on women based on your dating preferences, not just because you have preferences with dating, but just your views on women, is that they should be traditional, that they should always be traditional.

05:37:29.820 Now, Raven, before the show, we had you fill out a questionnaire.

05:37:32.640 Yes.

05:37:33.300 And on this questionnaire, the first five statements are as follows.

05:37:36.760 And we ask you to circle if you agree with the statement.

05:37:40.060 Men should pay on first dates. 1.00

05:37:41.420 men should provide protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to die

05:37:46.000 protecting you take the bullet um so are you a sexist then because you even you adhere although 0.89

05:37:56.480 you're a lesbian so i'm a bit confused but um i guess you if you were dating a man you'd want him

05:38:02.440 to do all these things so you're holding men to a traditional standard does that make you a sexist

05:38:07.980 it could so sexism sexism is fine when you do it or it's fine entirely no it's not fine entirely

05:38:18.380 but so so i don't think if you're a traditional person and you have

05:38:23.040 uh desire traditional dating dynamic i don't think that's sexist

05:38:27.640 no i don't think that's sexist or i mean it depends if we're how strictly we're referring to

05:38:35.480 sexism i was more so saying that i've seen like videos of me talking about your preference no

05:38:44.780 talking about your preferences which are what which are you want a traditional woman which is

05:38:49.900 completely fine that's completely sexist though no for you to want a traditional woman that's not 1.00

05:38:55.760 sexist so but but but the question was what are the sexist statements i've made so if it's not

05:39:00.600 sexist for me to desire traditional woman what are the other sexist statements i've made

05:39:05.160 i don't have a list well again i'm not asking for verbatim but you've you've accused me of being

05:39:12.480 slightly misogynistic slightly sexist it seems or even on a scale of zero to ten how do you rate

05:39:19.140 my misogyny slash sexism like a like a four a four okay so i feel like you need to give at least

05:39:26.240 you gotta do better i need to step my game up what do you rate rachel over here 1.00

05:39:32.940 look at look at this shit she wrote a fucking book 1.00

05:39:36.720 she wrote a book hey the book opens by saying if feminism was a movement by women for women 1.00

05:39:46.380 then we deserve to know the truth about it and that's what the book is about so it's not because

05:39:51.600 i you hate women rachel you just hate women no does she rank higher on this sexism scale than me 1.00

05:39:59.000 yes what's her what's her rate what do you rate her on a scale of zero to ten like like a eight 0.99

05:40:08.300 wow why all right because i said i didn't want you to vote

05:40:16.200 but i only said that because you guys don't know anything about what you're talking about so i will

05:40:23.180 It wasn't just because you're women. 1.00

05:40:26.000 It wasn't just because you're women. 1.00

05:40:27.760 Wait, really quick.

05:40:29.000 We got a little something coming here.

05:40:31.820 We got a little...

05:40:33.340 Oh, hey, what's up, man?

05:40:38.760 How's it going?

05:40:39.800 Oh, wow. 1.00

05:40:40.660 Oh, shit. 1.00

05:40:42.780 Oh, my goodness. 1.00

05:40:45.060 Well, how long you been watching? 1.00

05:40:48.140 Yo, Indy, you're a fucking legend, sir. 0.98

05:40:51.680 Guys, we need W's in the chat for Indy. 1.00

05:40:54.480 Oh, what the hell?

05:40:55.200 We need W's in the chat for Indy. 0.92

05:40:56.860 The guy's a legend.

05:40:57.860 Champagne pop.

05:40:59.840 Yeah, man.

05:41:00.500 Thank you so much for the big champagne pop.

05:41:03.500 I was going to be sad if nobody did a champagne pop when I came back.

05:41:06.940 Thank you, Indy.

05:41:07.720 That's awesome of you.

05:41:08.740 Indy's a legend.

05:41:09.960 I think we saw you, what is it, three, four weeks ago with that situation.

05:41:15.720 Yo, I try to convince that girl. 1.00

05:41:19.400 There's back story.

05:41:20.340 By the way, you never got back to me on the DMs.

05:41:23.000 You never got back to me on, what are you looking for?

05:41:27.600 Oh, I got some here, but wait, hold on.

05:41:31.600 Is everyone over 21?

05:41:33.320 Yeah, everyone's.

05:41:34.040 I don't drink.

05:41:34.880 Yeah, yeah.

05:41:35.300 Who wants champagne?

05:41:35.840 I'm driving straight home after this.

05:41:36.880 So no.

05:41:37.660 I'll be driving too.

05:41:39.700 No?

05:41:40.200 I'll take one.

05:41:40.720 Yes?

05:41:41.380 Two?

05:41:42.000 I can have a tiny sip.

05:41:43.480 Actually, yes.

05:41:44.160 Four?

05:41:44.420 Just a little.

05:41:45.000 Five?

05:41:45.480 Wait, actually, I can't give it to you because you didn't disclose your age.

05:41:49.020 Sorry.

05:41:49.340 Sorry.

05:41:49.540 no champagne for her

05:41:52.520 no you can't

05:41:53.760 you do look young

05:41:56.380 he can't do that

05:41:57.320 I'm sorry

05:41:58.300 you know what though get her an applesauce

05:42:00.940 get her a little applesauce 0.97

05:42:04.620 and a capri sun

05:42:05.500 and some lunchables or something

05:42:08.620 so wait

05:42:10.360 so yes

05:42:11.860 yes yes

05:42:13.120 five

05:42:14.680 a tiny bit

05:42:16.280 look there's a pouch

05:42:18.780 It's an applesauce

05:42:20.180 Those are literally the best

05:42:21.880 No way

05:42:22.900 Oh, you're actually going to eat it?

05:42:24.440 No, you're actually

05:42:25.100 You really 1.00

05:42:25.980 Fuck yeah 1.00

05:42:26.920 We actually might have some 1.00

05:42:28.320 I don't know

05:42:29.760 Capri Sun?

05:42:30.640 I'm not drinking a juice

05:42:32.000 It's not a juice

05:42:33.360 We have a

05:42:33.700 Do you want a Gatorade?

05:42:34.960 Oh, I know

05:42:35.400 Do you want a Gatorade?

05:42:36.940 No

05:42:37.380 Okay

05:42:37.820 I don't know

05:42:39.220 You seem a little 0.99

05:42:40.320 Bro, shut up 1.00

05:42:42.240 I'm trying to figure out 1.00

05:42:45.040 He has to verify your age

05:42:46.720 He didn't give you alcohol

05:42:47.920 how does um how does not show your you have your id i actually don't have it on me how does not

05:42:55.560 showing your age though protect you i'm trying to figure that out yeah i think it's just the

05:43:00.480 regular cups is like if she's younger or if they don't know her age kind of thing they'll be like

05:43:04.140 less attracted because maybe there's pedophiles men like younger women yeah

05:43:07.540 for me it's it's a privacy thing because there's more things that i want to rachel while i'm

05:43:16.180 struggling with the champagne do you want to take over the con yeah sure so since i'm an eight on

05:43:24.180 the misogyny scale what what puts me at an eight i mean i was just throwing out a number really i

05:43:34.780 thought we were just like joking around but i mean i mean i wait if we're joking around why was he

05:43:42.680 four and her eight i feel i feel like i feel like he does have some misogyny but i feel like he's

05:43:51.780 a little bit more subtle with it like like like like i can sense it but i can't really point out

05:44:00.640 specific things at the moment i haven't heard anybody okay so was there something i said here

05:44:10.420 was it like other stuff you've seen or maybe you haven't seen any of my other stuff i haven't

05:44:16.260 actually watched a lot of your other stuff okay so so what i don't want to i can't like pull it out

05:44:24.180 of you you know um i mean i feel like i feel like with the nature of who you're married to i feel

05:44:34.180 like your viewpoints have to kind of align at least well you know people say that a lot and

05:44:41.220 the funny thing is uh hello i'm much like if you if you think andrew's views are like misogynistic

05:44:50.900 mine are probably worse now i don't i don't consider myself misogynistic whatsoever because

05:44:56.340 misogyny means you hate women like without good reason you just broadly as a category

05:45:01.620 hate or dislike women. I do not hate or dislike women at all. Plenty of women in my life that I 0.78

05:45:08.280 love. I have four daughters, but I hate what feminism has done to women. That's what I take 1.00

05:45:15.140 issue with. I believe you said that you didn't believe that men and women were equal at some

05:45:22.560 point. I think they have equal value in the eyes of God, but I don't think that they are equal on

05:45:29.380 a lot of other uh sorry sorry in a lot of other categories so i don't think i think that hierarchy

05:45:36.860 is the natural order of things i think that there's an intentional design for this world and

05:45:42.720 for human beings and that patriarchy is the natural design that's why men are bigger stronger 0.92

05:45:47.940 have the monopoly on force and should generally rule things um women are designed now you said 1.00

05:45:55.160 we shouldn't just be baby machines i've been called a baby factory on this show i've been

05:46:00.020 called a baby machine i've been called just all you do is pop out babies so if anything i feel

05:46:06.380 like i'm the one who's on the receiving end of the misogyny or the sorry of the discrimination

05:46:14.120 i think a lot of other women if anything have looked at me and and said really disparaging 1.00

05:46:18.580 things about me because i have five kids as though i haven't done anything else i saw and

05:46:24.320 you're being disrupted hand you're not disrupting with my men should be in charge

05:46:28.780 yeah this is like the this is sexist right now you're interrupting her

05:46:36.480 do you want me to open it he loosened it for you i thought it didn't 0.97

05:46:42.520 so yeah it's literally fucking stuck i swear to god 0.95

05:46:46.420 literally do you want me to try to do it wait wait you want me to do it i swear i have freakish 0.94

05:46:52.640 grip strength from many years of power lifting i'm kind of memeing a little bit okay good um

05:46:58.460 so yeah it's it's not that i hate it's not that i hate women or i'm misogynistic but i don't think

05:47:03.920 there's anything wrong with the way that everything was done for all of human history until 100 years

05:47:09.080 ago i think the last 50 years is the weird thing and everything else that came before it was the

05:47:15.060 normal thing um and i think that it's very backwards to assert that oh the last 50 years is

05:47:20.500 actually how everything should be and whenever i ask people why they don't know 0.58

05:47:24.400 oh bro oh it didn't even fucking pop what the hell i did get it off that was so anti-climactic 0.98

05:47:30.600 your face is all red it was hey i don't know what was up with that fucking champagne 0.98

05:47:39.480 it was greased it was greased it's greased sorry all right uh you guys wanted champagne 0.99

05:47:48.620 incorrect sorry continue on continue on my apologies i will say that you've um really

05:47:54.580 opened my mind to a lot of things in a very logical way because i feel like i feel like

05:47:59.820 social media does perpetrate people's minds especially like younger kids and i mean we all

05:48:05.960 know that the algorithm is fed to your liking it is literally made so that you believe the world

05:48:11.640 is exactly how you think it is right and the whole point of social media is to keep you on to keep

05:48:17.960 be distracted to keep to for them to make money and they're going to do it in the way that makes

05:48:22.380 sense and when you're like always being fed with yes you're right you're gonna want to be on the

05:48:29.300 app more you're sorry really quick we gotta do the uh we got we gotta do the cheers uh cheers to

05:48:35.180 indy cheers to indy salute

05:48:38.520 Jesus from the bottle 1.00

05:48:44.660 Thank you Indy you're a fucking legend 0.99

05:48:47.320 W's in the chat for Indy 0.98

05:48:49.320 I still owe you one Indy

05:48:51.160 You gotta message me back on Instagram

05:48:52.800 You disappeared there

05:48:54.220 Why am I misogynist

05:48:57.100 Can we just get an answer sir

05:48:59.180 Well she's more misogynist 1.00

05:49:01.060 Sir

05:49:01.380 Sir

05:49:02.760 Sir

05:49:04.520 Okay ma'am let me think

05:49:06.560 uh he liked it i saw that face you like that oh yeah loved it

05:49:12.240 oh god it's late uh have they given an answer yet like to anything we're still waiting no

05:49:20.580 but they haven't had any proof of what they're saying being true they're just you're both

05:49:26.100 he literally brought up a stat you were like it's from 2000 yeah it's from 25 years ago

05:49:33.040 that doesn't mean it's that much less true 21 years ago but why would it have changed in 2001

05:49:39.700 that is 20 no 2007 but i'll look up some more current in relation to the misogynist thing

05:49:46.400 the burn of proof is on her oh yeah no absolutely like if you accuse somebody of something the

05:49:52.640 burn of proof is on you to establish i've watched a lot of your stuff and i disagree with what you

05:49:57.500 say but i do think you're mostly respectful to women and the times i've seen them cry i've the

05:50:01.400 times i've seen them cry on the podcast i feel like it's been when they're like low-key being

05:50:05.980 a little bitch like you're like like you've never said anything that's like directly personally 1.00

05:50:10.320 attacked someone like you've never been like you're a fucking fat whore or something you've 1.00

05:50:14.460 never said that yeah no i almost always of like i almost never go to personal insults there have i 1.00

05:50:21.920 pro like there's like probably thousands of hours of this podcast we've done nearly 300 episodes

05:50:27.800 2000 women been on the show um i maybe one or two times i've insulted somebody a couple times

05:50:39.080 maybe it seems to me that when when ladies have this objection and believe me i get it all the 1.00

05:50:45.400 time andrew gets it all the time and when we ask specifically what they usually either say something

05:50:49.700 we never said that or they'll take something someone else said and then think that we said it

05:50:55.140 or it's more just I feel like you're trying to make women look bad and what I always ask them

05:51:01.540 about that is how is it that I am able to come on here and not make myself look bad this gal and

05:51:07.260 this get like plenty of women have been able to come on the podcast and not make themselves look 1.00

05:51:11.980 bad how is it my fault Andrew's fault or Brian's fault if they make themselves look bad I think

05:51:18.560 i think the reason that i get a misogynistic vibe from brian would probably just be when

05:51:28.840 he gets like an attitude with women but i think it's because that there's mostly women on the

05:51:36.660 podcast all the time yeah so when you're getting an attitude with a woman who didn't have one with 0.95

05:51:42.300 him first yes okay i i haven't actually because andrew and brian are both usually really good at

05:51:50.320 matching energy and they're both usually really really patient and it'll take hours of someone

05:51:55.220 being difficult um not answering questions going off into space asking to repeat the just being

05:52:01.940 difficult or bratty or having a nasty attitude before they usually finally just start to lose

05:52:08.940 their temper a little bit and just you know hand it to them a little bit i mean i'm probably worse

05:52:14.640 with that but i'm i'm even willing to grant that there's there's been moments where i can be uh

05:52:21.080 sharp with somebody or i can be a bit short or whatever but um i don't think that this would be

05:52:27.840 a this might mean i'm a jerk sometimes i don't know if it would establish a strict sense of

05:52:34.840 misogyny or sexism definitely no not a strict sense i think it's just the vibe i got it's the

05:52:42.060 vibes yeah like like i said i could like i said just i guess to move this on here pretty quick

05:52:47.520 but um is there anything you can point to that's concrete as to my misogyny not like a specific

05:52:55.060 thing or even me um if i sorry with andrew when people say this about him i'm like did you have

05:53:02.160 you watched the debates he does against men because he's way tougher on men and he debates

05:53:07.500 way more men people have this weird idea that he only did you only debate underage girls he's never

05:53:13.040 debated anyone underage he's always only debated women who said they wanted to debate but he

05:53:18.760 debates a lot more men and men with much more education much higher status than him and he's

05:53:24.240 arguably way meaner to them alexis yeah lexi um i was gonna say i understand to an extent why

05:53:33.380 a woman could view brian as being slightly misogynistic due to the fact that

05:53:41.620 for this particular podcast it is yes a majority of women so when you have a man coming off as 1.00

05:53:51.620 being combative with a woman I can understand why some people may be so quick to view very

05:54:05.120 superficial superficial clips as being misogynistic but being combative doesn't

05:54:11.280 necessarily make you misogynistic yeah how about the way Andrew stuck up for his wife like that

05:54:16.240 one time I don't remember her name oh yeah she had black hair yeah he finally sticks up for me

05:54:21.340 and then that's misogynistic

05:54:24.600 and then the whole internet attacks him for that

05:54:26.780 and it's like pick one

05:54:28.520 do you want him to be good to his wife

05:54:30.760 or do you want him to just be this

05:54:32.100 they don't know

05:54:33.380 was that the time on the phone?

05:54:35.100 when I called in and told her all the things she got wrong

05:54:38.440 and was saying that weren't true

05:54:40.020 hold on

05:54:41.380 Olivia you said you had

05:54:44.600 one or two disagreements

05:54:45.760 what are those?

05:54:47.420 I think I disagree with everybody on this one

05:54:49.880 No, no, no. But do you have any disagreements with the show slash hosts? You wrote only one or two.

05:54:54.940 Yeah.

05:54:55.680 What are those?

05:54:56.340 I think the way that people are rated, and it might also be because I don't understand the standard and objective that we're going for.

05:55:06.420 And the way that I see it is some people are going to be more into someone like Megan Fox.

05:55:12.580 Some people are going to be more into someone like Megan Sweeney, Megan Sweeney, Sydney Sweeney, right? 0.88

05:55:17.220 They just like a blonde, big boobs, or someone that's not like that. 1.00

05:55:20.820 So what is the measurement that everyone is kind of attaining to when it comes to personal preference?

05:55:27.720 Or is there, like, this unspoken thing where it's like, no, no, no, well, if they have this, this, this, and this, then they have to be like that.

05:55:35.400 Now, I know the obvious lines of, like, don't be morbidly obese, don't be probably a feminist, don't have really bad plastic surgery.

05:55:44.320 You mean the 1 through 10 question?

05:55:46.180 do you get what i'm asking yeah yeah and a lot of people get confused on this for some reason and

05:55:50.660 the whole point of the question is just to see like do you have a somewhat accurate assessment

05:55:55.580 of your own looks or are you like delusionally off the charts with it so even if you have different

05:56:01.140 tastes uh you know maybe i prefer uh curvier blondes and maybe that guy likes uh really skin 1.00

05:56:07.180 dark haired girls or something like that it's still going to be in a private chat it's still 1.00

05:56:11.780 going to be like am I am I more somewhere in the average range am I more somewhere in the above or

05:56:16.820 the below average range and what you find this pattern of this is what the whatever podcast is

05:56:22.520 really good at doing and why I defend it so much it's really good at establishing patterns of

05:56:27.320 behavior that we see in young women and where they come from so if we see it's show after show after 0.98

05:56:32.200 show girls who are clearly average saying they're tense and when we ask them why they're like I just 0.68

05:56:38.680 feel like I'm, you know, and they, they go into all these things that have nothing to do with

05:56:42.340 their looks. It kind of, it lets us understand like what's going on in the psychology of young

05:56:47.260 women that affects dating, that affects mate choice, that affects society at large. If all

05:56:53.740 the women are running around going, you're a 10 girl, you're a 10. And Homath, my friend Homath 1.00

05:56:57.780 does a really great job of explaining this. Women will say we're all 10s because 0.87

05:57:02.720 the the actually hot chicks know that if they don't call the other girls a 10 they'll all gang 1.00

05:57:09.740 up on them and hate them and the girls who are not 10s all kind of instinctually know we all have

05:57:14.840 to all say that we're 10s as well so that you know we can compete in the hierarchy in the sexual

05:57:19.800 marketplace or whatever so like women interest sexual competition among women makes us do some 1.00

05:57:25.180 weird things and i'm not even saying it's wrong but it it kind of helps illustrate what's going

05:57:29.660 on with that i mean i can so i don't disagree sorry yeah really quick just pull up the the thing

05:57:34.880 oh uh could you right click on the image and do uh open image and new tab

05:57:43.660 first one tab over to it okay click on it

05:57:51.320 all right scroll to the top so i mean when when i'm doing a rating it is based off of objectively

05:57:58.180 objective measurable traits. You have the facial harmony. Scroll down. There's the mid-face ratio.

05:58:04.800 There's assessments of the eyes. That would have to do with canthal tilt. 0.88

05:58:10.320 There's skin. If you're scrolling down, there's certain face shapes. You can look at the person's

05:58:17.140 nose. You can look at their lips. There's certain ratios to the lips that are more desirable.

05:58:23.000 There's the maxilla, the mandible, the zygomatic bones, the cheekbones, the chin.

05:58:26.820 um so so there's all kinds of various features that can be objectively measured when it comes to

05:58:34.860 uh ratings so yeah i don't think i disagreed then i think i just lacked understanding so thank you

05:58:41.380 uh here let's do this a couple things from the questionnaire we have uh let's see i guess going

05:58:47.340 to raven uh this sort of ties back to something we were talking about before women can't be sexist

05:58:52.940 towards men I think you're the only one who bid on that but you also think that

05:58:59.660 white people can't or sorry black people can't be racist towards white people

05:59:03.800 why is that I feel like it's because you oh yeah I forgot I can't have feelings 0.53

05:59:15.280 hold on you can have feelings but to be underscore Indy donated $200 I have no

05:59:22.160 social media it's poison wait do what you will with your show i am just a fan so are you saying

05:59:28.580 that whoever sent me that dm with your username that was like an imposter it was a fraud

05:59:35.720 i don't know somebody messaged me and said it was you and it had like the same username

05:59:40.840 on instagram on the whatever instagram so i don't know if somebody was

05:59:44.040 an imposter but then they stopped responding um but thank you for your tts man appreciate it

05:59:49.560 you're a legend uh okay so people of color can't be racist towards white people why is that

05:59:57.580 i believe that people of color can technically say racist things or do racist things against

06:00:06.640 white people i just don't think it's to the same degree it's not as bad when they do it 1.00

06:00:10.960 yeah isn't that kind of racist in and of itself to say when a black person does something to a

06:00:18.120 white person it's not as bad no i don't i don't think or sorry racist i mean i i don't think for

06:00:27.680 that reason it depends on what they do too but i don't think it's for the specific the specificity 0.97

06:00:35.660 of just racism what about this so a white person kills a black person because they're black a black

06:00:42.620 person kills a white person because they're white is that uh equal in uh terms of what would be the

06:00:50.900 right word equal in terms of just as a hate crime like there's no is that an equal wrong 0.93

06:00:56.940 like as a hate crime just they don't like that person because they're black they don't like that 0.98

06:01:02.540 person because they're white so they just and they kill them for that reason i think that's the same 0.99

06:01:06.680 that's the same crime same well it's the same crime is it the same wrong yes are they morally 0.99

06:01:13.040 equivalent in their wrongness yes oh okay um can can black people be racist in africa 0.86

06:01:20.940 towards white people where in africa uh because there's also different places nigeria 0.96

06:01:27.160 no i mean wait black people you did say wait you did say that even the united states black 0.87

06:01:35.840 people can be racist towards white people but the severity is not as wait but you said can black 0.66

06:01:41.200 people in africa be racist against other black people did i say that okay well that's what i

06:01:48.000 that's what i heard okay well can black people in africa be racist towards white people

06:01:52.640 i guess that yes probably because white people would probably be the minority they would be

06:02:01.240 minority and they wouldn't have like systemic uh power in the country like probably all the people 0.98

06:02:06.160 in the government in nigeria are black and they have uh they have the systemic power in nigeria 0.98

06:02:12.880 yes okay uh using your own metric though would black on white racism be worse in nigeria than 0.99

06:02:20.400 white on black racism in nigeria because they hold his systemic power in nigeria 0.99

06:02:27.080 are we going back to the unaliving of like a person like a black person killing a white 0.99

06:02:38.240 person white well we're just going back to you racism in general yeah so you your position is

06:02:43.600 that people of color well you you said that it's not as bad when people of color are racist towards 0.97

06:02:49.120 white people and i'm assuming you're talking about in like a western white country yes right 0.56

06:02:53.740 So then wouldn't it be the case that in a black, well, an African country where they're black, if black people, it would be worse for them to be racist towards white people than white people to be racist towards black people in the predominantly black country? 0.80

06:03:20.300 i guess so that that's kind of interesting i guess i mean i don't know i i mean i've never 0.51

06:03:27.320 personally been but they can't black people in the united states can be racist towards white

06:03:32.300 people it's just not as bad is that correct essentially okay um and then the same with

06:03:39.460 women uh women can be sexist towards men but it's not as bad when they do it yes okay i assume that 0.84

06:03:45.820 applies to all countries then yes okay does it apply to all intersections like

06:03:53.180 intersectionality like as well you would agree that there are some women who are like more 1.00

06:03:57.660 powerful than some men um or women who have more privilege than some men or women who have more

06:04:05.280 money than some men or there's a power imbalance like employer employee like for example let's say

06:04:11.720 Like a poor black homeless man versus a rich white lady. 0.67

06:04:16.040 So basically, can a rich white lady, would it be worse for a rich white lady to be sexist towards a homeless man than a homeless man to be sexist against a rich white lady? 1.00

06:04:31.040 Is that the question?

06:04:33.000 Okay, let's think of an easier one. 0.99

06:04:35.960 Homeless white guy is racist towards Oprah Winfrey. 0.99

06:04:41.720 Wait, racist or sexist? 1.00

06:04:44.040 Racist. 0.94

06:04:44.580 Racist, okay. 0.99

06:04:45.880 Both.

06:04:48.300 Because she's definitely a very extremely powerful and influential woman, 1.00

06:04:52.360 but she is a woman and she's black. 1.00

06:04:54.640 And he is obviously not very powerful because he's poor and he's homeless, 0.96

06:04:58.780 but he's white and he's a man. 0.57

06:05:01.080 So, you know what I mean?

06:05:03.580 Yeah, I think that's wrong.

06:05:05.520 Oh, my God. 1.00

06:05:06.320 Okay, what the fuck? 1.00

06:05:07.800 Okay, you did circle here. 1.00

06:05:09.180 Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.

06:05:11.720 yes I agree where so what are the what are the rights um I guess why do you agree it's it's

06:05:22.060 gonna go into the same thing that I was talking about earlier but which was what which was what

06:05:27.340 yes the vibes no it's the fact that I know I personally know men that they feel completely

06:05:35.160 comfortable walking down the street at night they don't think any they feel like they could

06:05:40.440 take on a potential predator or that they really wouldn't be exposed to a potential predator but

06:05:47.400 pretty much all of the women that i am friends with are scared to walk okay but what do you

06:05:53.760 want us to do about the fact that men are just bigger and stronger what do you want us to do

06:05:59.000 about it i didn't say i wanted to get to the gym but no no you're gonna protest in this you're

06:06:06.880 going to protest about it you know you think it's wrong right you think that that shouldn't be the

06:06:11.620 case how do if that's a problem we need to fix how do we fix that i believe it starts at home

06:06:20.240 i believe it starts when kids are kids like so the old tell men not to rape school there should 1.00

06:06:28.360 never be crime ever yeah i mean there shouldn't be crime but it's like what women are always going 1.00

06:06:35.820 to feel like men could be predators against them because men could they should always feel like

06:06:42.700 men could potentially hurt them because men are bigger and stronger like children should feel 0.59

06:06:49.420 like adults could potentially overpower them because that's just true it doesn't mean the

06:06:54.300 adult did anything wrong by being bigger and more powerful than the child men aren't doing anything

06:06:59.960 to us by simply being the dominant sex when it comes to force and i as we've gone over the stats

06:07:07.500 it's like the problem of violence is more of a male-on-male thing overall didn't you say earlier

06:07:14.140 the least amount of domestic violence is between a man like two wait wait hold on i don't want to

06:07:18.900 get too sidetracked here yeah that would actually be a point in favor of the men showing that

06:07:22.900 between two men there but you just said violence was most common between well that is true but not

06:07:27.520 in romantic relationships they have the lowest domestic violence rates but okay really quick

06:07:32.320 you you listed one that that women feel this wouldn't really have to do with rights though

06:07:38.440 like women feel more even if it's true that women do feel more scared walking down the street it's 0.56

06:07:44.180 not the case that both that that men can they just can skip through the street at night and

06:07:51.260 they'll be safe whereas if a woman just skips through the street at night she's immediately 1.00

06:07:55.800 just going to get robbed and beaten and, or worse. Right. So, and in fact, men are more likely to be

06:08:01.500 victims of violent crime. Men are more likely to be mugged. Men are more likely to be attacked.

06:08:06.080 And I think there's an additional barrier. So in a public setting, like, let's say you're in a,

06:08:11.740 like a kind of a busy, busy nightlife area where there are people around and it's nighttime.

06:08:17.600 I think if you compare the, the risk between men and women in that scenario,

06:08:24.340 women are actually safer yeah when they're if there's people around there's crowds women are 1.00

06:08:30.700 safer and i i think it's because of this so for example if i'm walking say i'm walking down the

06:08:35.820 street and some drunk guys picks a fight with me um and like let's say he's like really big and 0.97

06:08:42.280 like he's gonna whoop my ass i'm fucked i'm screwed nobody's gonna jump in and help there's 0.99

06:08:46.800 not gonna be any there's not gonna be stranger men or women who are gonna intervene on my behalf 1.00

06:08:52.740 like a superhero like superman and save me i'm gonna get curb stomped i'm gonna get fucked up 1.00

06:08:57.840 i'm gonna get my head kicked i'm gonna get beat up no guys are gonna be like yo man what are you 0.99

06:09:03.080 doing you don't punch another man guys don't do that however if you a little dainty wajian bratty 0.99

06:09:09.840 girl or whatever the fuck uh you're at some like kind of nightlife scenario and um there's there's 0.97

06:09:16.720 other men around and they see some guy hassling you and he starts shoving you and he starts grabbing 0.99

06:09:21.780 your arm or he, he like hits you. Not all men will do this, but if other men see that they're

06:09:28.780 going to white night for you. And I'm, I'm not saying that's wrong to like come and protect a

06:09:32.300 woman in that situation, but you as women kind of have bodyguards like free bodyguards. So if a man 1.00

06:09:39.400 sees a woman getting like beat up on, there will be like, I think that guy's going to get mobbed. 1.00

06:09:45.060 And they're the guy who's attacking you as a woman, that guy's going to get mobbed and he's 0.99

06:09:49.720 going to get up by other men who are like, you don't put your hands on the women, which by the

06:09:53.760 way, I don't think women should be being attacked. And I think it's fine for men to intervene to

06:09:58.600 protect women. However, men are not afforded that same level of protection from totally random

06:10:05.840 stranger men. They see a man getting beat up. They're just going to let it go. They see a woman

06:10:11.300 getting beat up. They're going to, good chance you're going to, someone's going to intervene

06:10:17.100 on your behalf and protect you so i think women in some ways are actually uh safer and additionally 1.00

06:10:21.860 let's say i start a fight with a guy i walked up to a guy and call him a pussy i'm like you 1.00

06:10:26.660 fucking pussy bitch and i fucking slap him in the face or something i actually think 1.00

06:10:31.720 i don't know what the percentage is because this is just completely conjecture and speculation 1.00

06:10:37.180 i think you could walk up to i don't know maybe it's 50 maybe it's less maybe it's more 0.99

06:10:43.300 I actually think women could just like walk up to 10 dudes in a night and call them pussy bitches and the guys would never smack them. 1.00

06:10:50.700 You would never get hit back. 1.00

06:10:53.080 Now, if you slapped a guy, there's still some guys that will give you a pass.

06:10:58.700 Like you walk up to a guy and slap him.

06:11:01.200 You'll get a pass.

06:11:02.460 Maybe it depends on how much they're drinking.

06:11:05.300 I do think that the proportion in any case, like even if a woman is being the assailant,

06:11:11.400 the guy's just gonna like try to get away or it's not gonna but like if you put a man in that

06:11:16.960 position and the man you're you're a man being aggressive towards another man you're gonna get

06:11:21.980 into a like that man's gonna put hands back on you so women have uh certain like protections i 1.00

06:11:27.320 actually think uh in this i mean do you disagree with anything i just just said you think that

06:11:32.660 that maps on correctly or i do agree that in that scenario if a man was being attacked they are

06:11:42.160 a lot less likely to be helped by other men for sure i i also agree that there are some men who

06:11:48.840 would definitely help a woman in that scenario for sure so you agree i agree with that yes well

06:11:55.960 yes what i'm saying is is that yes men would step in to protect a woman who's getting beat by a man

06:12:01.640 But many of them would definitely, like far fewer, perhaps even none, would step in to protect another man who's being beat up by another man.

06:12:09.840 They would just see that as like a mutual combat situation.

06:12:13.200 Even if the woman was the instigator.

06:12:17.320 Savage Mike Davis.

06:12:19.000 That is crazy.

06:12:20.920 Mike Godfrey.

06:12:21.860 Thank you. 1.00

06:12:22.480 Damn. 1.00

06:12:22.860 He's got her. 1.00

06:12:24.700 I actually think.

06:12:26.380 And I've seen.

06:12:26.980 Hey, equal rights, equal left.

06:12:28.640 You know what I'm saying? 0.93

06:12:29.300 I actually think, though, in a situation where the woman is the aggressor and the man strikes her back, even if people see what led up to it and see that she was the aggressor first, let's say the girl punches him in the face and he just fucking clocks her, which you might say, hey, that's not fair.

06:12:53.660 but uh i think some men even in that context would be like you never put your hands on a woman boom 0.91

06:13:00.440 and they fucking they i think they might still attack him even in that circumstance now i think 0.96

06:13:05.520 it's less likely than just the instance of like the man being the aggressor but uh so i you know 0.99

06:13:10.160 this idea that um women don't have equal rights because women are more scared i don't really know

06:13:17.500 about that and also men are more likely to own firearms so i think anyways um so it occurs to

06:13:27.400 me that men do seem to and men typically own firearms for self-defense like that's i think

06:13:33.260 the primary reason men own firearms what primary reason anyone owns firearms for self-defense but

06:13:39.300 more men owned firearms so it would occur to me then that actually men seem a bit more heavily

06:13:43.780 invested in their self-defense than women are men have a greater fear of some scenario that would

06:13:50.380 require a firearm yeah i could frame it like that okay well is there anything else besides that when

06:13:56.980 uh you say women do not have equal rights to men in the usa why is it anything else

06:14:01.840 what though what has what has there ever been a okay okay you got this

06:14:10.760 when has there ever been a vote about what a man should do with his own body

06:14:17.100 because because now we're because now we're gonna get let's do it here no but i love it no but here's

06:14:22.900 what i'm saying though is i'm talking i'm going back to abortion yeah we know we know yeah so

06:14:29.580 that's my yeah okay well men have to sign up for the draft when they turn 18 and women don't and

06:14:37.360 if the government calls them and tells them they have to go to war like they did in vietnam do you 0.91

06:14:40.760 know how many men were drafted into the vietnam war and died because the government said we know

06:14:46.680 you don't want to go to war but you have to do anything i don't agree you don't agree with it

06:14:50.320 but it's the case okay but i don't agree it doesn't matter if you don't agree with it it's

06:14:55.720 the case your argument okay you said when has there ever been a law governing a man's body

06:15:01.020 there is one right now men in ukraine and russia i think russia has lost 140 000 guys since the

06:15:07.220 start of their war i thought are they sending any of the women to die is the government of 1.00

06:15:12.200 russia sending women to die i don't think so i think that's a lot worse you're entitled to your 0.95

06:15:19.480 opinion that's worse than a woman not being able to have an abortion true well put it's definitely 0.99

06:15:27.060 worse because because the government is forcing the men the government is taking away the woman's 1.00

06:15:34.240 bodily autonomy whereas the woman in most cases of abortion uh she voluntarily had sex yeah and so 0.99

06:15:42.440 um there's another layer there i wish we could change the conversation from abortions being

06:15:49.060 right or wrong to let's avoid some unwanted pregnancies like everybody knows everybody knows

06:15:54.980 how to do that now though there's not a personal lie there should be more accountability i just

06:15:59.200 feel like yeah yeah well on the note of the whole misogyny charge and women are scared because the 0.96

06:16:06.440 men are so violent and and you had said that you think because I'm married to Andrew that means I

06:16:11.000 must have this misogynist so therefore you're implying he's very misogynistic and I thought

06:16:15.980 about this and when I met Andrew I had just told you guys I got out of this very seriously abusive

06:16:23.120 relationship and he actually took me to a gun range and taught me how to shoot and defend myself

06:16:29.740 so I could protect myself and that ended up being the only thing that got rid of the bad guy

06:16:33.920 so I think that's some good proof that he's not a misogynist in addition to that we were at a party

06:16:39.080 one time and a guy just said something rude and off color to me he was super drunk and he asked

06:16:44.580 me if I wanted to take a shower with him I thought I must have heard him wrong so I said what exactly

06:16:49.100 i said what and right on beat and the guy repeated it and andrew just calmly open palm

06:16:55.820 slapped the guy knocked him out cold right on his feet just for saying something rude to the lady

06:17:01.020 so i think he's actually very chivalrous he also also defended our whole family in a home invasion

06:17:09.180 we had a home invasion at night in the middle of the night the dogs outside woke us up there

06:17:13.820 There were people in our basement, and Andrew went down with a shotgun and scared them away,

06:17:18.420 and they ended up getting arrested, going to prison, all that sort of stuff.

06:17:22.520 So there's at least three times I can think of that he has heroically saved me, a woman.

06:17:30.420 So I'm wondering, like, he's not a very good misogynist.

06:17:34.700 I saw the time with the phone call.

06:17:37.080 That was my first impression of you, and I saw that, and he really went to bat for you.

06:17:43.220 Yeah.

06:17:43.820 he's pretty awesome equal equal rights though is there anything else equal rights

06:17:51.840 oh well you mentioned really quick just to finish off on the bodily autonomy thing

06:17:57.180 so first off abortion isn't isn't fully outright banned in the United States there's many states

06:18:03.020 that still allow abortions so women still do have I suppose restricted to some degree bodily 1.00

06:18:09.960 autonomy. Um, but as to the Rachel listed, one of the ways in which men don't have bodily autonomy.

06:18:16.680 And I think that that particular, uh, way in which men don't have bodily autonomy outweighs the 0.98

06:18:22.240 supposed, uh, restriction on abortion. Uh, there's two other things though. Uh, one is circumcision.

06:18:29.700 So, uh, you, uh, we don't genital mutilate infant girls, right? So baby boys, they have their 0.98

06:18:37.260 genitals mutilated upon birth uh they are obviously are not uh consenting to this um and uh 0.86

06:18:46.160 well although this was a discussion uh this was like related to the dean thing where he like doxed

06:18:54.860 that family it's like well can kids consent in the in the sense of like for medical procedures

06:19:02.900 like obviously a newborn baby

06:19:04.620 doesn't have the capacity to consent or not

06:19:06.840 consent. Well I suppose they

06:19:08.340 Why are you laughing?

06:19:12.320 I don't know where I'm going with that.

06:19:15.980 Circumcision is the

06:19:16.800 parent's decision ultimately and I agree.

06:19:19.060 But I think that

06:19:20.900 if girls, if we were 0.98

06:19:22.400 removing the clitorises or 0.99

06:19:24.840 the hoods of infant girls 0.99

06:19:26.660 you guys would have a problem. They do that in Africa 1.00

06:19:28.680 don't they? And it's wrong.

06:19:30.460 Isn't it? But isn't when

06:19:31.680 But that's how we bombed Iran. 0.99

06:19:34.600 I can't say the word.

06:19:35.880 I'm so tired.

06:19:37.140 Circumcision.

06:19:38.380 Yes, yeah, there you go.

06:19:39.660 That and men, wasn't that just to prevent infection and cleanliness and stuff? 0.97

06:19:43.580 No, it was a Jewish religious thing.

06:19:45.700 Oh, my God, have you seen what they do? 0.99

06:19:47.700 They literally suck it up. 1.00

06:19:49.760 I don't want to fucking hear that shit. 1.00

06:19:52.100 I don't want to hear that shit. 1.00

06:19:53.720 No, seriously. 1.00

06:19:54.460 Yeah, yeah, we know what they do.

06:19:56.300 I don't want to hear it, though.

06:19:57.320 I just feel bad for the kids that got diseases from it.

06:19:59.580 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

06:20:00.020 It is true. 1.00

06:20:01.020 they have uh they can get the fucking they have like herpes or something it's disgusting um 0.99

06:20:06.560 but uh yeah so in that way they don't have uh bodily autonomy and then the third way 0.99

06:20:13.160 um the third way would be hmm we can even maybe tack on the fourth but the third way would be

06:20:19.640 as it relates to child support and so um a man could uh well we did away with debtors prisons

06:20:28.300 So if you owe a debt to someone or a company, uh, in the past you could be sent to prison

06:20:34.360 just for owing a financial debt.

06:20:36.720 Um, but we did away with that.

06:20:38.260 We said, well, if you owe money to somebody, uh, that would never justify you being imprisoned

06:20:43.440 with the exception of one thing, child support.

06:20:46.680 If you fail to pay child support, which while it is technically true, women can be ordered 1.00

06:20:53.120 to pay child support.

06:20:54.780 The majority of child support payments go from men to women.

06:20:57.700 I think it's anywhere from 93 to 97 percent. That's the so disproportionately impacts men.

06:21:04.720 In addition to that, I do think that if we were to account for the discrepancies, I think judges would be less likely to send women who are defaulting on their child support.

06:21:16.800 They actually are.

06:21:18.040 I looked that up.

06:21:19.240 So of women who are ordered to pay child support, a much larger share of them don't pay.

06:21:25.120 And a much larger share of them never even get like a driver's license pulled or go to jail for it.

06:21:30.680 I went to jail for child support.

06:21:32.540 You did?

06:21:32.980 I did. 1.00

06:21:33.340 Oh, shit. 1.00

06:21:33.820 You're a tiny minority. 1.00

06:21:35.240 Let's go.

06:21:36.060 W's in the chat for jail.

06:21:37.120 Only because of J6, they sent me to jail for that. 1.00

06:21:41.400 So they caught you on something else.

06:21:43.320 Well, no, no, no.

06:21:43.980 So they sent me to jail for that.

06:21:45.620 Okay.

06:21:45.940 and then all this support you know my ex filed and oh um yeah so he went for custody and all

06:21:56.980 sorts of crazy stuff because of i got federally indicted are you going to be able to like recoup

06:22:03.280 any of that or sue them back or anything like that uh i have lawsuits right now yeah but i did

06:22:09.260 i did 45 days in jail for child support before the j6 thing though so you were paying your ex 0.85

06:22:14.440 child support or i still do you still do okay interesting um although i'm curious like

06:22:21.720 if you were hmm wouldn't your your circumstances have changed i guess this is a legal question

06:22:28.920 like if if you lost your job or your circumstance your financial circumstances changed

06:22:33.880 then there could have been a um an adjustment of the child support they don't care

06:22:39.620 they don't care well well so yes women uh sometimes do pay child support sometimes they 1.00

06:22:46.320 even go to jail for failing to pay for it but uh there are discrepancies there is a much smaller

06:22:52.220 percentage yeah so but so the way higher proportion of men who uh will get sent to

06:22:58.200 jail for not paying child support that is taking away men uh man's bodily there's another big

06:23:04.560 legal right that women have over men well a way that it's very unequal is that um and i have the

06:23:12.100 study in my phone if you want if you want the source i have it bookmarked in my phone um they

06:23:17.720 did a study of like criminal offense offenses and sentencing um with like 20 different states or

06:23:24.720 something and uh all the different crimes they tried to line it up as much as they could where

06:23:30.660 you're getting convicted for the same thing like you know second degree criminal sexual conduct or

06:23:36.560 whatever they made sure the charges were the same and they found that women had 30 percent lighter 1.00

06:23:41.500 sentences than men did across the board so there's that there yes that's yeah women get a lot lighter 1.00

06:23:48.880 sentences for the same crimes isn't there something to do with i don't quote me on this but i've heard

06:23:55.060 something like along the lines of when a woman is crying the something with the man's hormones 0.50

06:24:01.780 actually activates and they will yeah yeah oh people people are so deeply uncomfortable with

06:24:08.140 women crying that we're willing to literally destroy like all of humanity over it like right 1.00

06:24:13.680 now the birth rates are so low that we're facing like a catastrophic population collapse and

06:24:18.000 everybody's like shh don't upset the women i actually a woman cried last sunday on the show

06:24:23.880 Oh, really?

06:24:24.900 Oh, that was pretty bad.

06:24:25.660 Yeah, yeah.

06:24:26.140 The whole panel actually rage quit.

06:24:29.220 What?

06:24:29.800 How did I miss that?

06:24:31.080 I'll tell you what happened.

06:24:32.300 So, I mean, I'll give you a quick recap.

06:24:35.680 We were talking about looks and stuff.

06:24:38.340 One of the questions, it was actually one of the questions on the questionnaire, which is number 12.

06:24:42.820 A woman should not be rejected because of her weight. 1.00

06:24:45.500 um and she seemed really offended by the idea that uh by the way i think it's totally fine

06:24:52.180 for a woman even to not want to date a guy because he's too chubby or he's too skinny or

06:24:57.560 whatever it is right um but so she got really upset by it and then i started like engaging

06:25:04.960 with her in the debate and uh uh it was kind of funny because she i asked her about her height 0.78

06:25:12.840 preference she was like five foot three and she was like uh well i would only date a guy who's 1.00

06:25:18.000 five foot seven or something and she'd only had one boyfriend and her boyfriend was six four

06:25:22.600 and i was like well you would date a guy who's shorter but conveniently the only man you've had

06:25:28.420 a relationship with happened to be like one percent one percent man in terms of height

06:25:33.400 but she got really bent out of shape and then she started crying and left

06:25:36.800 because of the weight thing but speaking of which back to the questionnaire although really quick

06:25:42.440 any other ways in which women don't have equal rights 1.00

06:25:45.300 nothing have you started to consider that perhaps your interpretation of the vibes was off

06:25:54.340 the vibe no oh so you're one of those ladies that it doesn't matter how much evidence i present what 1.00

06:26:01.520 logical arguments i have you and you told me this you're not going to change your mind i'm not going

06:26:06.840 to change my mind so you don't care about facts or evidence or logic or anything it's all based

06:26:11.380 on how you feel no i do care about facts but you're telling me facts that you're getting from

06:26:17.520 conservative media there's also wait wait wait it's not from conservative media so you've been

06:26:22.900 able to show one source i'm in where you're getting your information well that's because

06:26:25.800 of the nature of what we're doing if i could look it up i could tell you but like my book for

06:26:29.900 instance i don't take anything from conservative media it's all either the writings of feminists 1.00

06:26:34.740 themselves or it's the nih it's the dhs it's um some kind of government agency or some kind of

06:26:40.820 fbi crime statistics something like that so if i came to you with completely non-biased sources

06:26:47.220 and and could show and demonstrate and prove and through logical argumentation

06:26:52.300 show you that my reasoning was sound would you then change your mind

06:26:56.000 it would depend on each scenario like each thing that you're showing me so and this is why i don't

06:27:06.120 want women to vote like i know again people think i'm mean for this but i don't want her deciding 0.80

06:27:12.100 who runs the country and what the laws are i do not i that i don't want to drive next door that's

06:27:16.620 living under female tyranny that's a good thing i agree wait i've got a question on this you look 0.97

06:27:23.140 a bit shocked no i just i think everything you said had was logical everything that rachel said

06:27:31.600 has been based on fact logic um and had basis and it feels like every time the questions had

06:27:38.800 been turned to you it was like a lot of circling and i don't knows and and i feel like if you were

06:27:45.340 to have this strong of an opinion there would be facts and basis the same way that she pulls them

06:27:52.380 out and that's just credibility yeah so uh two two things here uh for you i guess if

06:27:58.980 if we could establish that like through science or something although it is the case as it is

06:28:07.860 but if we were to present you with convincing evidence like actual proof and it is true not

06:28:13.640 just conservative facts conservative news like actually true that life began at conception

06:28:20.360 would you be against abortion in that circumstance

06:28:23.420 but i don't believe that no no but i understand that but but so if there was

06:28:35.920 if evidence came out that it that is the case that life begins at conception

06:28:43.000 under that circumstance would you be against abortion

06:28:48.420 i'm just gonna say no i wouldn't be because and that's not how i believe that's not what i believe

06:28:57.300 no no but if evidence if there was i get that that's not the question but this is hypothetical

06:29:02.460 she makes up her own reality when you're asked a question just answer it though like you've been

06:29:07.440 but you're being asked a question you're on a podcast and all you're doing is kind of circling

06:29:12.920 around and not saying anything you've been asked 1400,000 times what is 1400,000 literally

06:29:19.520 literally yeah you have said so many times that like women are oppressed and this and that what 0.87

06:29:25.360 is the difference between brian and i what can he legally do that i cannot you can't answer the

06:29:30.040 question because there's nothing it's a great question what can he legally do that i cannot

06:29:34.300 you cannot answer this question she can't go off queen is there a reason you're so is there a reason

06:29:41.520 why you can't answer the question because you're frustrating everybody we can see that you have

06:29:46.820 nothing we can see you're not being logical you're not even being reasonable you're not even open to

06:29:51.380 the fact that you could be wrong and you're just doubling tripling down and you're just being

06:29:55.380 obstinate and difficult and you're frustrating everybody that's why most of the people in this

06:30:01.540 room right now have a lot of conservative beliefs you just won't answer the question what can brian

06:30:06.780 I legally do that I cannot.

06:30:08.720 She doesn't have an answer.

06:30:10.080 The answer is nothing.

06:30:11.920 It takes six hours to talk in circles.

06:30:13.800 Just to move it on, Lexi asked you a really good question.

06:30:17.240 I'll ask it straight.

06:30:18.700 What rights or right do men have that women don't? 0.97

06:30:23.700 I already answered this.

06:30:24.900 You didn't answer the question.

06:30:27.280 You deflected the entire time.

06:30:28.360 No, no.

06:30:28.700 What right do men have that women don't? 1.00

06:30:30.860 you don't have an answer because there's literally no answer there's none do you know what the laws

06:30:40.020 are do you know our amendments anything when did women get the right to vote she doesn't know i 1.00

06:30:47.260 feel like i i feel like i'm not answering i feel like the only yeah i feel like the questions have

06:30:53.100 been targeted right here this whole podcast because you don't answer questions that's that's

06:30:59.140 relevant that's red herring so do you want to answer the question though no because she doesn't

06:31:04.540 know the answer i mean here just just so we just so i can move it on quickly restate because you

06:31:11.760 said i already i already explained it just bullet point one two three things what are the rights

06:31:17.540 that uh that men have that women don't bullet point it in literally 10 seconds we can move on 1.00

06:31:23.300 just bullet point it or one wait wait just let her talk bullet point it 1.00

06:31:29.420 this is why she doesn't like men and why she dates women because only women will put up with 1.00

06:31:42.560 this kind of bratty attitude no man in his right mind is ever going to put up with it you're such

06:31:47.400 a misogynist rachel i i find this to be i find this to be a trend that i've seen with women who 1.00

06:31:55.620 are lesbians it tends to be that they have this kind of personality type where they're extremely 1.00

06:32:00.720 difficult and they're extremely obstinate and difficult to deal with and they found men won't

06:32:06.260 deal with that but they can find a dysfunctional woman who will so i'm just saying it's an 0.90

06:32:10.840 observation i gotta play something you just got destroyed right there like that's crazy that was

06:32:21.660 that was that was crazy dog that's insane i feel like there's this habit of just picking up trending

06:32:29.340 opinions and deciding that because something is commonly said by other trending liberals that

06:32:34.780 are fed to you because of what you engage with in your feed then it becomes something that you have

06:32:39.020 to preach and you even said yourself like I don't know why I'm protesting but it's okay people just

06:32:44.000 want to do something different what you want to do something different just feel isn't the whole

06:32:48.380 point of protesting that you want to get your point across that you want to make a change

06:32:51.740 but then it's been over six hours and there's no point and there's no key change that wants to be

06:32:56.860 made there's no nail being hit on the head there is nothing being said except I don't like the way

06:33:02.120 you're framing the question I'm not going to change my point cool why what is your view you

06:33:07.980 have nothing because you've done no research because you're defending this whole persona of

06:33:13.340 wanting to abuse and take advantage of men who no offense over 90 you can laugh but you're still so

06:33:19.340 uneducated you have all this fake knowledge and no wisdom to apply it and that's the problem and 0.95

06:33:24.600 it's humiliating so yes the fact that there's such a large percentage of women like you on the 1.00

06:33:29.180 internet i don't want you to vote i don't either i am almost done i'm sorry but like we will

06:33:34.780 also when you guys answer questions all you do is say i feel i feel i feel i feel never once have

06:33:45.640 you given us a statistic a piece of facts of any kind it's all i feel i feel not i think

06:33:53.720 not i know not logically not it's been proven it's i feel i should have done more research

06:34:00.380 for coming on to this podcast, because I didn't know

06:34:02.400 this was what the

06:34:04.260 topic of conversation was going to be.

06:34:05.620 One sec, we do have a chat coming through.

06:34:08.060 Thank you, Justin.

06:34:10.540 Brian, please refill

06:34:12.140 C3's champagne.

06:34:14.220 I've been watching her commit a felony 1.00

06:34:15.940 for the last 69 minutes.

06:34:18.800 Hashtag cooked.

06:34:20.360 Pack your bags, cutie.

06:34:22.280 And say goodbye to whoever TFI

06:34:24.340 guest might have tried to raise you. 1.00

06:34:26.080 Oh, shit. 0.99

06:34:26.840 wait felony that's crazy crazy yo base justin thank you very much we have a super chat coming 0.99

06:34:35.020 in here from mr northumberland uh can i have you read this can you read it for me into the mic if

06:34:40.720 you can oh yeah most states have laws linking selective service registration to applying for

06:34:47.820 driver's licenses slash state ids 36 states require an id to vote at polls is there anything

06:34:55.940 that government mandated and exclusively applies to women that could hinder the ability to vote

06:35:03.000 or get an id oh my god she's rereading it you're back to me again it was directed at you it was 0.93

06:35:14.100 okay i didn't know we were still backing me uh most days oh my god i'm sorry uh yeah thank you

06:35:22.520 for the soup chat mr north on balloon she just she might be illiterate she doesn't i'm kidding 0.89

06:35:27.860 i'm kidding um but really quick guys guys ten dollar display a hundred dollar read two hundred

06:35:34.260 dollar tts uh venmo cash app whatever pod twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow

06:35:38.580 drops the prime stuff shop the whatever.com uh just like the video guys also like the video

06:35:42.920 also debate university.com debate university you want to become a master debater like andrew

06:35:48.100 wilson rachel wilson i'm like a i'm like a journeyman i'm working on it you're pretty good

06:35:52.340 i'm working i owe a lot of credit to andrew you know i just being witnessing andrew and also you

06:35:58.640 debating i i learned things through observation but i'm a i'm a is journeyman i'm i'm like working

06:36:05.740 on it you know i'm building up i'm working on it you know sometimes i you know senpai the guy who

06:36:10.900 follows the sensei what's the name of the or is it apprentice or like an apprentice i'm the

06:36:16.900 apprentice debater yeah apprentice debater brian i think if you practice you could be as good as

06:36:22.540 charlie i do i practiced i do pretty he gets a lot of practice every week i think you know what

06:36:30.480 i think just like andrew has natural talent though yeah he does i think he's got he's got

06:36:37.040 some natural sorry i know i'm a terrible simp i can't help it simping for her husband um hell

06:36:43.680 yeah but yeah good you know i'll sit with my boyfriend every day of the week i love him

06:36:47.820 i did wanted to ask uh i'm trying to remember where this came from me rachel will simp will

06:36:56.520 simp there you go uh what do you think it is dating podcast right is it gay for a man to date 0.94

06:37:05.320 a trans woman no that's oh wait wait is it gay yeah so yes is it gay oh okay well it kind of 0.99

06:37:15.700 depends on like the trans man so that's a that's a girl oh okay so that's a woman 1.00

06:37:21.380 that was a biological male became a trans woman i'll speak okay do they have a dick 1.00

06:37:31.160 no real like it's a gay man with trans woman no no is it gay is it gay for a guy to be with 0.99

06:37:40.100 a trans woman to date a trans woman well i would say i mean just tell me for both yes pre-op and

06:37:45.480 post-op touchy touchy um you know maybe like four years ago yeah dude i get called trans you'd be 0.99

06:37:55.960 surprised they i saw one on there that was asking but uh anyways i would say if they have a dick 1.00

06:38:03.920 then that would be gay what if they have a whatever the fuck that thing is 1.00

06:38:10.140 if they've like been changed i mean like i guess technically it's not gay because it's not a dick 1.00

06:38:20.360 but at the same time like it's a mentally confused person and like i i wouldn't want 0.94

06:38:26.780 before we give our response we'll have everybody answer uh is it gay for a man to date a trans 0.55

06:38:31.460 woman no period not gay at all okay no it's straight so it's heterosexual 0.73

06:38:39.720 straight straight is slang for heterosexual duh well i don't know you iq is questionable 0.81

06:38:48.820 you're like you're you're you're um wait wait no no the your your your ping is like 300

06:38:57.220 wait what what does that mean like your ping what's a ping like you know when you're playing 0.90

06:39:03.500 a video game and your ping is like 400 milliseconds or whatever she like fucking delay it like there's 1.00

06:39:08.240 like a delay i mean i'm tired as shit right now because i didn't sleep the last couple nights 0.97

06:39:14.660 I'm not going to lie. 0.89

06:39:15.480 Get this girl energy. 0.98

06:39:17.060 I just had one.

06:39:18.240 What's the answer?

06:39:19.380 Give us the answer.

06:39:20.240 Okay.

06:39:20.620 No, it is not gay for a straight man to date a trans woman.

06:39:29.180 Okay, so it would be straight.

06:39:30.580 It would be heterosexual. 0.81

06:39:32.740 Yes.

06:39:33.160 Hetero.

06:39:33.640 Okay. 0.99

06:39:34.100 Gay. 0.98

06:39:34.520 Gay? 0.99

06:39:35.160 Gay. 1.00

06:39:36.320 Gay as shit. 1.00

06:39:37.580 Yes, it's gay for a man to date a man, even if he's cosplaying as a woman with back surgery. 1.00

06:39:41.480 Oh, my. 0.98

06:39:44.260 it you're bi i gotta disagree with gay i would vote extra gay uh really quick before we get into 0.98

06:39:52.100 it uh we do have a tts coming through and then we'll get right into that convo uh stanley boy 0.97

06:39:58.020 tm thank you very much appreciate it stanley boyton donated two hundred dollars despite her 0.99

06:40:03.820 views and sexual preference i will still do the brunette with my micro penis i mean 1.00

06:40:08.800 she's like no you fucking won't no you fucking go here fin dom him or bully him or whatever 1.00

06:40:14.920 not for free right not for fucking free oh shit not sending to me standing boys send in another 1.00

06:40:20.480 200 to mit to the whatever podcast no do it no i won't okay well anyways back to the topic um 1.00

06:40:26.360 so okay uh bisexual and then not gay not gay also even if it was gay why does it why does it matter

06:40:35.160 to anyone what someone's sexual preference is literally wait so even if we were to be like 0.99

06:40:40.100 look whatever you want to date somebody in your private life don't give a fuck but if we're having 0.98

06:40:44.140 a discussion about it then what is the truth i don't think it's gay because that person identifies 0.97

06:40:51.760 as a man i don't remember which man or woman i'm tired but if either way if like even if they're

06:40:58.260 trans that's not a gay relationship epiphany if you guys think that women have an unfair shake

06:41:03.860 in the united states women are oppressed whatever why don't you just identify as a man 1.00

06:41:07.820 problem solved because i'm not a man okay but that shit the trans woman is also not a woman 1.00

06:41:14.780 yes they are no they're a man they're just saying biologically yeah they're not biologically but if 1.00

06:41:22.800 they can just say i'm a woman and still be a dude with a dick why don't you as girls with vaginas 1.00

06:41:29.620 just say, hey, I identify as a man 1.00

06:41:31.780 and then you'll get all that sweet male 0.95

06:41:33.420 print because I don't identify.

06:41:35.500 But you could just pretend. How would anybody

06:41:37.740 know? And then you get all the male print.

06:41:39.380 Why would I want to do that?

06:41:40.840 I like being a girl.

06:41:43.200 It bothers us because...

06:41:44.660 You like being a girl? Why? You're so oppressed.

06:41:47.040 It's so terrible. It's so awful.

06:41:48.720 And I'm still a girl.

06:41:50.300 I guess it's not that bad for you.

06:41:52.620 I guess it's not so bad.

06:41:54.100 I think it bothers women when you said, you know, why does it bother us 0.93

06:41:56.800 so much? I think it bothers women so much 1.00

06:41:58.600 that we have trans men pretending to be us it's like you know it would be really it is insulting 1.00

06:42:04.780 and there was a i think like you think that this is a costume yeah yeah you know just put on a wig

06:42:11.160 did you guys see that video of the 30 37 year uh week old pregnancy guy um he's like oh i'm still

06:42:20.500 working and i'm 37 weeks pregnant and he's cosplaying pregnancy and that's a disorder

06:42:26.220 Really quick, your answer was if post-op straight?

06:42:32.960 I think you said that right?

06:42:34.180 It's like a really blurry line, but like parts for parts, like it's not, I guess.

06:42:40.220 Let's just say this.

06:42:40.960 Whether post-op or pre-op, gay. 1.00

06:42:44.200 I mean, chromosomes don't lie. 0.96

06:42:47.640 She's shaking her head.

06:42:49.480 She's shaking.

06:42:49.960 So, okay.

06:42:50.420 Can I ask you a question?

06:42:51.460 Sure.

06:42:51.660 We can frame it.

06:42:52.260 and maybe you'll think that this is a bit trick uh some some treachery some trickery

06:42:57.160 what does straight stand for heterosexual heterosexual so okay so like the opposite 0.97

06:43:06.380 gender opposite sex yes opposite okay so can you change your sex you cannot change your sex 1.00

06:43:16.980 so just you can change your gender okay you can change your gender i'll grant that for the sake 0.63

06:43:21.060 of the argument uh you would agree though that your sex cannot be changed so the the transgender

06:43:27.100 woman is still male no if it's woman's transgender she's a woman if she no but it's male so okay 0.99

06:43:34.200 now i disagree with this but for the sake of the conversation i'll grant it gender is man woman

06:43:40.640 sex is male female so yes transgender women are male do you agree transgender women are 0.96

06:43:48.860 their sex is male that's their biological biologically yes but biologically yes okay

06:43:54.460 so they're still male you would agree that when a man and a transgender woman are engaging in 0.98

06:44:02.200 sexual intercourse as far as they even can uh you would agree that that's two males having sex 0.59

06:44:11.160 correct well why is this prevalent you just granted you just granted that wait wait hold on 0.95

06:44:18.700 are transgender women males no you wait you said biologically chromosome yeah well there is no other 0.99

06:44:26.960 category yes there is i don't know why you guys care why do you care what people do behind closed

06:44:32.780 doors why do you care if we care because why do you care why can't we care i don't care about

06:44:38.440 Why do you care if we care if I care if she cares? 0.99

06:44:42.820 Because you shouldn't care.

06:44:43.500 I'll give you reasons.

06:44:45.380 Don't tell me how I should feel.

06:44:47.400 I'm allowed to feel however I want.

06:44:49.000 You've said it a hundred times.

06:44:51.220 You've said a hundred times in this podcast

06:44:53.520 I'm entitled to my opinion.

06:44:55.080 You are, but you're speaking hatefully about these people.

06:44:57.300 It's not hateful.

06:44:57.860 It's not hateful.

06:44:59.020 How is it hateful? 0.99

06:45:00.020 You are brainwashed. 0.99

06:45:04.820 Brainwashed NPC. 0.98

06:45:06.340 You guys are saying it as though, like, oh, no, they're, like, you're, you're, what's the word?

06:45:11.960 You're, you're.

06:45:12.780 It's hateful to speak biological truth.

06:45:15.200 No, you're not respecting their identity.

06:45:16.780 It's hateful to identify biological males.

06:45:19.060 It's not that respect he's saying that.

06:45:21.760 I'm not a purple unicorn.

06:45:22.740 You're still not respecting their.

06:45:24.200 Okay, let me ask.

06:45:25.020 If you want to be a unicorn, you can be a unicorn.

06:45:26.600 It doesn't matter.

06:45:27.100 Not respecting.

06:45:27.660 Yes, because what?

06:45:28.760 I think every human deserves respect no matter what.

06:45:31.360 You know what?

06:45:31.760 My pronouns are your royal majesty.

06:45:33.600 I will call you your royal majesty.

06:45:34.760 His royal majesty, your royal majesty.

06:45:36.320 every time you even talk you need to say your royal high or that's no majesty i do prefer

06:45:44.760 majesty because those are my pronouns or adjectives or whatever so if i were to refer to you instead

06:45:51.200 of saying he i would say your royal majesty if that's what you want i can do that to you and

06:45:55.040 bow well that's no transgender person is asking you to do that that's like but i'll tell you why 0.93

06:46:00.720 it matters i'll tell you why it matters uh okay so when it comes to dating do you think trans

06:46:04.640 people have a duty to disclose that they're trans yes absolutely they can't hide it well i why would 0.98

06:46:09.880 you hide that if you're really interested in someone you want them to know obviously they're

06:46:13.080 going to find out you're trans at some point so why wouldn't you just disclose in the first place 0.97

06:46:15.700 and someone who truly loves you some trans women are uh passing visually yeah so why would that 1.00

06:46:23.120 matter though if they come up and they're like about to have sex or something obviously that

06:46:26.900 guy's going to end up knowing that that's not necessarily you don't think in the history of

06:46:30.880 trans women no trans women have ever tricked a man into that's where consent comes into play 0.98

06:46:35.900 what do you mean tricked a man you know if someone has a dick or not when you know not 0.99

06:46:39.200 so what okay then that doesn't i mean that doesn't matter then why what other than genitalia 0.99

06:46:45.620 wait so just to be clear so if a if a trans woman is post-op and has a neo vagina they have they have 0.99

06:46:53.740 no need to say that because they are a woman oh my god i would consider that um you guys are like 0.99

06:47:00.300 it's so interesting they drone they drone

06:47:02.980 on and on about consent but i if a woman if a trans woman did that to me i would actually think 0.99

06:47:13.560 that i was just fucking raped yes no no are you yes absolutely yes 1.00

06:47:20.580 Wait, wait, question, question 1.00

06:47:22.840 Wait, question

06:47:23.900 Let's say a trans woman 0.97

06:47:26.400 Is like super passing

06:47:28.160 And she's aware of my podcast

06:47:29.980 And she knows, like for example

06:47:31.640 I'll just make the statement now

06:47:32.760 In order for me to be willing and able to consent to sex

06:47:36.520 That has to be a biological female 1.00

06:47:38.540 So, and if a trans woman 1.00

06:47:41.060 Somehow dupes me into fucking her 1.00

06:47:43.360 Was I raped? 1.00

06:47:44.580 No, absolutely not

06:47:45.840 So even knowing

06:47:48.120 That this is my boundary for consent

06:47:50.060 That's crazy, bro 1.00

06:47:52.380 Holy fuck 1.00

06:47:53.280 That's not rape 0.99

06:47:54.020 I'm sorry

06:47:54.660 Are you serious?

06:47:56.300 If you like a Ben Thiel or something 1.00

06:47:57.860 What the fuck? 1.00

06:47:58.980 If you consented to having sex with them 1.00

06:48:02.620 If you consented to having sex with them 0.99

06:48:05.820 Why would it matter if they're transgender or not? 0.99

06:48:08.280 Because a condition of me

06:48:09.880 But why does that matter to you?

06:48:12.560 Perhaps it's not strictly rape

06:48:14.600 Under the legal definition

06:48:15.800 Or criminal definition of rape

06:48:17.120 But I think it ought to be 0.98

06:48:18.920 some sort of sex crime but i do think it's fucking rape like that's it's that's some kind 0.96

06:48:23.600 of that is so unfair to put that and rape in the same category that is so far it's definitely 0.98

06:48:27.980 that has to be the same kind of assumption you're making out with someone and then something just

06:48:34.560 comes out of your pants and you had no idea they didn't consent to that person they consented

06:48:39.260 to a woman that you wanted to be to straight people that's horrific that's so scary you can

06:48:45.420 withdraw consent at any point and if that person doesn't respect that then that is rape but if

06:48:49.360 they consent originally that is not right but period what about the deception of being a sex 0.99

06:48:55.940 worker someone had a uh how we were talking about innies and outies of pussies earlier if someone 1.00

06:48:59.940 had an out you didn't consent to fucking them when they had an outie that's a little but you 1.00

06:49:03.320 didn't tell me your vagina was ugly so i didn't consent 1.00

06:49:06.880 That is not the same thing. 0.99

06:49:09.320 No, it's not the same thing.

06:49:11.640 How much longer are we going to be here?

06:49:13.100 What about...

06:49:13.700 I need to go.

06:49:14.920 I'm tired.

06:49:15.420 You said that there was deception for somebody who wasn't disclosing that they're a sex worker.

06:49:20.000 You said that's deception.

06:49:21.420 Yes.

06:49:22.540 I did not say that was deception.

06:49:23.480 My whole standpoint was that if they...

06:49:26.480 That was his point, not mine.

06:49:27.900 Right, but you said that if you got into a relationship and, you know, you thought that

06:49:34.780 it was wrong for them to leave at that point when even though they had they had a boundary like oh i

06:49:40.260 don't want this they can absolutely leave everyone is their own individual person you can't erase

06:49:45.460 what happened with that person that you would that was a facade that you did not want to hook up with

06:49:50.340 prior to that coming why are they any less than a woman than a bio like a born biological because 1.00

06:49:55.380 they're a male they're not they don't have ovaries they don't have a uterus they don't have a period 1.00

06:50:01.800 They had a penis 1.00

06:50:03.880 It is hateful 1.00

06:50:04.700 I have no hate for trans people 0.96

06:50:08.700 Would you be friends with someone that was transgender 1.00

06:50:10.000 Yes

06:50:10.440 I have a trans friend

06:50:11.940 And multiple friends that are transgender

06:50:14.240 And then how are you acting like this

06:50:15.700 Because they're lying

06:50:18.440 Are we not allowed to decide 0.56

06:50:20.540 Who we want to have sex with and why 0.91

06:50:22.320 Okay 0.98

06:50:23.140 My issue is you saying it's rape

06:50:27.300 Okay what if

06:50:28.420 I pretended to be a man 1.00

06:50:31.360 and i got with a dude who was gay and later on he was like what the fuck you know like you're not 1.00

06:50:37.300 rape that is fucking not rape all right that's not rape but no i guess my point of being my it's 1.00

06:50:42.260 not rape but my my point being is like imagine imagine how a gay person would feel especially 1.00

06:50:48.860 because we're going with the gay um uh argument here imagine how a gay person would feel if they 0.72

06:50:53.580 found that out that would if they found out a street person did that and they were like what 0.99

06:50:57.080 the fuck like what weird fuckery is that but the difference between you guys and me is i see 0.98

06:51:01.420 transgender women don't say the difference between any of us it's highly no because i 1.00

06:51:05.920 see a transgender woman as a woman i see a transgender man as a man i don't see them 0.99

06:51:09.660 as being transgender when did i say implants are my boobs real they're not wait wait hold on

06:51:14.720 i actually i don't do this often i might actually want to walk back the claim because i'm thinking

06:51:23.120 of other so i think deceiving somebody while morally reprehensible and wrong i don't think

06:51:30.340 all wrong things necessarily rise to the level i've been mass i've been wronged and i've been

06:51:38.200 deceived and it's disgusting and perhaps it could be some other category of a sex crime i don't know

06:51:44.440 if it raises to the level of rape i wouldn't say right thank you i don't that's all it might though

06:51:49.500 Because I'm thinking of other scenarios where deception is involved, but consent was otherwise given.

06:51:55.880 Like when underage girls lie about their age. 1.00

06:51:57.640 Well, not even that, but it's like, what if a guy lies about his job?

06:52:07.040 That's not even close to his dad.

06:52:09.000 I know it's not as bad, but it is.

06:52:11.580 If they're flat out asked if they're transgender and they say no and lied about it, that's one thing. 0.58

06:52:15.920 I think this is a comparable category.

06:52:16.680 Why should they have the ask?

06:52:18.000 What if you lied about how, if you wanted to be a doctor and you lied about all of your, because this has happened.

06:52:22.700 People have, you know, lied about medical licensing and have ended up doing operations on people's bodies, you know, without having the prior knowledge or the right education.

06:52:31.780 How would you feel if you knew a doctor took that risk on your body?

06:52:35.740 You know, and I know that sounds really crazy, but it's like the idea of deception, right?

06:52:39.140 And consent.

06:52:40.060 Would you feel okay knowing, hey, this person doesn't actually have all of the knowledge and research.

06:52:45.560 Am I okay with them working on my body?

06:52:47.380 such unrelated topics well well hold on related to consent though there is a there is a scenario

06:52:53.520 where for example let's say it's it's dark in a bedroom and a a woman sneaks into like a stranger

06:53:02.300 woman sneaks into a married man's bed and she uh maybe she she pretends her well she doesn't even 1.00

06:53:10.060 have to speak but she acts as if she is the wife of the husband and this could go in either direction 0.94

06:53:15.880 um that is actually uh and the sex is otherwise consensual but there's an act of deception that

06:53:22.700 is rape identity deception an identity deception yeah so i think so it is actually like for example

06:53:27.980 there was a case where a man snuck into a woman's bed and she was married and the husband i don't

06:53:35.760 know what the whole context was but she a man snuck into a woman's bed and acted as if he was

06:53:42.540 the husband and there was a so it was consent the the the sex was not forced but um and i'm

06:53:51.160 not articulating this perfectly i think i know what you're saying that that is right that is

06:53:55.160 legally deemed criminally deemed rape so in this same circumstance perhaps there is an argument

06:54:01.540 where something as so uh critical as to the the identity of the person is being but you still know

06:54:11.920 who they are they don't change when they go yes you but then but if you're straight and you only 1.00

06:54:17.480 like women vaginas actual vaginas because whatever trans people have is not a vagina it is a vagina 1.00

06:54:25.260 it is not a vagina it's a pseudo vagina the problem isn't transgender that's not their issue 1.00

06:54:33.120 their issue is in like trans people stock uterus that's not at all you know oh boy okay i've got 0.99

06:54:39.020 I've got a question for the pro-trans people.

06:54:42.360 When somebody has anorexia and they think they're fat, but they're not, they're actually super skinny to the point that it's dangerous to their health, we don't reaffirm that and say, you should stop eating.

06:54:54.540 You're actually really fat because that's what they want to hear.

06:54:57.500 We get them treatment. 0.90

06:54:59.240 Why do we do the opposite with trans people? 0.99

06:55:01.700 Why, when a biological male says, I think I'm a lady, we don't just go, no, you're not. 1.00

06:55:07.740 How come we are compelled to play into and play along with the delusion, which, in the case of men, is often autogynephilia, which is a sexual kink.

06:55:19.900 Why are we forced to participate in their sexual kink? 0.98

06:55:23.260 No one is asking you to participate in any part of their life.

06:55:26.120 You are if you're asking me to affirm their gender identity, yes. 0.92

06:55:29.700 You are asking me to participate in their sexual kink by calling him a her. 0.99

06:55:34.560 There's dudes that get boners from, yes, autogynephilia. 0.99

06:55:37.740 Autogynephilia is literally a kink. 0.98

06:55:38.920 The majority of transgender people don't have it as a kink. 0.78

06:55:41.320 That is who they are as their identity. 0.76

06:55:42.940 Trans is a topic on adult content because it's a kink. 1.00

06:55:45.320 Yeah, most of the males that transition to female have autogynephilia. 0.97

06:55:49.960 They start with fantasizing about being the female in a sexual act.

06:55:54.380 And then they want to take that on. 0.99

06:55:56.380 Children that are trans, do you think that they have some sexual gratification of being a trans?

06:55:59.600 I don't believe there's any such thing as trans kids.

06:56:01.680 Children get confused very easily.

06:56:02.960 I think that's mothers that push that stuff. 1.00

06:56:05.160 It's indoctrination.

06:56:06.160 we do have a tts we do have a tts coming pancakes donated two hundred dollars thank you man is it

06:56:12.820 morally acceptable to knowingly withhold information that would meaningfully impact

06:56:17.000 consent in a sexual setting is deception acceptable in the context of sexual consent

06:56:22.920 it seems to be a bit of a gray area to be honest on the on some of these things that i'm not i

06:56:30.220 personally i'm not quite sure on but uh well in the terms of the legal implications uh morally

06:56:36.900 i think deception is is always going to be wrong to to varying degrees but um and yes certainly

06:56:44.340 knowingly withholding information that would meaningfully impact consent would be morally

06:56:49.960 unacceptable whether it rises to some sort of criminal or legal uh level is i'm not sure you

06:56:56.700 No, hey, if the person knew this piece of information, they would definitely not consent.

06:57:01.640 But I'm not going to tell them.

06:57:03.380 That's a serious problem.

06:57:04.160 If they know, but why would they want to be with someone, oops, sorry.

06:57:07.440 Why would they want to be with someone that they know is going to hate them when they figure out more of it?

06:57:10.260 Because people are weird.

06:57:12.260 Because they go, I told you, you like trans people. 1.00

06:57:15.080 I just don't.

06:57:15.580 And there's this weird vengeance about it.

06:57:17.020 I don't think I've ever heard of a real life scenario of that actually happening. 1.00

06:57:20.560 Well, okay, so if you're a trans woman and you're attracted to men, most straight men don't want to fuck trans women. 1.00

06:57:29.640 Okay. 1.00

06:57:31.100 So just, but you can't.

06:57:32.720 But wait, wait, wait.

06:57:33.300 And they don't have to.

06:57:34.240 Hold on.

06:57:34.980 Well, yeah, but.

06:57:35.780 But then why would you say it's okay to withhold?

06:57:37.580 Wait, wait, wait.

06:57:38.100 Can I ask you a question?

06:57:38.940 Do you think men, like straight men, sometimes lie to women about their intention, their long-term intentions in furtherance of getting laid?

06:57:47.320 Yes.

06:57:47.720 So, for example, girls might be like, listen, I'm looking for something serious. 0.97

06:57:53.240 And by the way, I think this is wrong when men do this.

06:57:55.840 The men might be like, oh, yeah, of course, babe.

06:57:57.720 I'm looking.

06:57:58.240 I want a girlfriend.

06:57:59.040 I'm looking for something.

06:57:59.620 That happens all the time.

06:58:00.680 It happens all the time.

06:58:01.480 And I do think it's wrong, right?

06:58:02.780 It's wrong?

06:58:03.440 I mean, it's wrong, but it's also not that big of a deal. 0.99

06:58:06.080 It's fucked up. 0.99

06:58:06.800 I think it's a huge deal. 1.00

06:58:07.840 I think it's bad.

06:58:08.420 I've had that happen to me so many times.

06:58:10.320 It is not that big of a deal.

06:58:11.160 Wait, wait.

06:58:11.520 You don't want a relationship, though.

06:58:12.900 No, but I still hang out with people, and then they'll be like, oh, I want to hang

06:58:15.800 out with you more i want to take you on a date i want to treat you right and then i just say no

06:58:18.520 and then they hit and okay so i say no that's not them saying no i want that to be clear

06:58:22.380 you're the bad person then i'm a bad person i'm a terrible person just to be clear so you don't 0.92

06:58:28.180 think that there's anything i think it's amazing that you think you're so cute right now i just

06:58:32.220 i want to go home i want to go to bed that's just so amusing that you both think you're so 0.75

06:58:37.860 fucking cute because you guys are flat out wrong what are we wrong about when you can't even 0.95

06:58:42.280 I have a question. It's a good question. 0.99

06:58:44.960 Okay, go ahead.

06:58:46.540 Let's say Brian

06:58:48.620 let's change the situation.

06:58:50.620 Brian takes a trans person home 1.00

06:58:52.440 doesn't know that they're trans, winds up 1.00

06:58:54.540 having sex with them. 1.00

06:58:56.360 Then he decides that he's going to 1.00

06:58:58.580 punch them and beat the shit out of them 1.00

06:59:00.440 because they didn't tell him and they 1.00

06:59:02.560 raped him, right? 0.99

06:59:03.680 Is Brian 0.94

06:59:05.600 accountable at that point for

06:59:08.180 a hate crime and

06:59:10.300 assaulting that person a transgender 1.00

06:59:12.520 a protected whatever

06:59:14.120 because of what happened

06:59:16.400 because he's angry and lashed out because they didn't

06:59:18.480 tell him the truth and then they violated

06:59:20.620 him. That's not rape and that is 1.00

06:59:22.600 all automatic. It's not rape but it's

06:59:24.500 dissumption and it's sexual assault.

06:59:26.580 I would probably 0.99

06:59:27.500 It's not sexual assault but him beating shit out is what would be assault. 0.99

06:59:30.460 Even if somebody has treaded on you 0.99

06:59:32.160 I would still probably be found guilty

06:59:34.400 of some sort of assault or battery or something

06:59:36.220 even in that situation. I hope you never do that.

06:59:37.660 Now, but I do think, like, even for the trans person's own safety, it would be beneficial to them to actually do a disclosure to prevent them from some, like, I could see some men being like, whoa, this is, you basically induced me into a homosexual act. 0.78

06:59:53.620 Some men might, like, become violent in that situation.

06:59:56.640 Now, look, I don't think you should, that's a terrible situation to be in.

07:00:04.780 Like, you should cover your bases.

07:00:06.200 You probably shouldn't be assaulting people in that situation

07:00:08.320 I wouldn't be surprised if it happened though

07:00:10.640 Like if a trans person 1.00

07:00:12.240 Duped some straight person into sex 0.99

07:00:14.380 Like you gotta watch out for yourself 1.00

07:00:16.460 As a trans person you might get your 1.00

07:00:18.400 Fucking shit wrong 1.00

07:00:19.460 I've never seen a trans person that like 1.00

07:00:21.720 It hasn't been like pretty well known that they're trans

07:00:24.160 Like I feel like most trans people say they're trans

07:00:26.300 And you can tell that they're trans

07:00:27.460 I don't think I've ever seen one transgender

07:00:29.160 But exploring a scenario

07:00:31.680 Exploring a scenario

07:00:34.240 Where because you were asking

07:00:35.820 Why does it matter

07:00:37.400 Because if everybody thought like you

07:00:40.460 Straight men would be getting duped 1.00

07:00:42.500 Into having sex 1.00

07:00:43.420 Your position is trans people have 0.99

07:00:46.320 No duty or obligation to disclose

07:00:48.080 That's your position

07:00:49.180 That's why it matters

07:00:50.460 No offense 1.00

07:00:52.420 I don't want to fuck a trans person 1.00

07:00:54.040 I like natural pussy 1.00

07:00:56.480 Can I just add something real quick 1.00

07:00:59.180 Natural pussy supremacist 0.99

07:01:01.460 You should add that to your time 1.00

07:01:02.520 Let's say hypothetically

07:01:05.480 I was into women 1.00

07:01:06.940 and

07:01:08.540 matched someone on an app, met them at a bar,

07:01:11.980 who cares? Talking to you

07:01:13.660 for a while, we start to get intimate

07:01:15.580 and you whip out 1.00

07:01:17.620 a fucking dick? 1.00

07:01:20.340 Then you have every right to leave. 1.00

07:01:21.940 Ooh, wait.

07:01:22.880 It's not just every right to leave. 0.96

07:01:24.560 You know how fucking scary that would be 0.93

07:01:26.900 as a woman to just think 0.99

07:01:29.320 that I'm going into something 1.00

07:01:30.780 and now there's this huge dick flopping 1.00

07:01:33.360 in my face or something. 1.00

07:01:34.640 Oh, that's good, Lexi. I have something on that, Lexi. That's good, Lexi.

07:01:38.000 And it's scary. Like, if I were into women, and suddenly you pull your pants out, and I see a dick, I think I'm going to get fucked up. I'm scared. I don't know what's going on. You deceived me. Like, absolutely not. And just because I'm a woman doesn't make it more scary. If a man goes out with what they think is a woman, who, too, pulls a dick out, it's scary. 1.00

07:02:02.500 you're lesbian um so your your point was that the trans people have no duty to disclose is that 0.99

07:02:13.000 correct yes is it possible that a sex act could occur in the dark where for example like you would 0.84

07:02:19.520 agree that say this trans person that's super passing and they are post-operative and they 0.97

07:02:23.960 have a vagina and we're getting down to business in the dark and i might not even be able to well 0.94

07:02:29.080 um would it still be would it still bother you if they're pre-operative i should frame it like that 0.99

07:02:34.820 i feel like you this all these situations are so hypothetical because you will never yes that's

07:02:40.520 how you test the logic answer the question answer the question so i can get through it you will

07:02:44.220 never you'll never pick someone up that is trans and you will not know that they are trans that's

07:02:48.040 a lie that's an actual lie that's a literal lie but so just for the sake of moving things on uh

07:02:55.380 engage with the hypothetical okay what's the hypothetical i forgot okay so is it conceivable 1.00

07:03:00.160 um that i could uh this this trans woman could be pre-op hmm how about it so they have a dick 1.00

07:03:11.100 right yeah yeah this i feel like this plays out a little differently in the scenario i'm about to 0.99

07:03:15.300 give but um it's getting because it's a bit different the the physiology is a little

07:03:21.520 different let's let me use the post-op one okay so uh post-operatively it's dark um 0.89

07:03:28.380 could it be possible that i engage in a sex act with a trans woman without knowing that she's 0.94

07:03:35.380 trans would you ever sleep with someone without having a relationship with them like would you 1.00

07:03:39.100 just have one night stand like is this the situation it's a one it's a one it's a one

07:03:42.720 night stand or like this is someone you've been like going out with that's the only question if

07:03:46.440 it's a one night stand it's baked in that we're talking about a scenario in which a trans person

07:03:50.940 is not disclosing that's the scenario what about in the case of a bj what if the trans woman gives

07:03:56.380 you a bj and later you find out that's a dude we'll go there but really quick let me just get

07:04:00.260 an answer on that i forgot what you said okay i'm sorry i'm tired okay so is it possible that

07:04:06.640 i could end up having without there being a disclosure and not knowing could i end up having

07:04:11.440 uh like sex with the trans post-op trans woman yes in this type of yeah so i could insert my 1.00

07:04:18.780 penis into their inverted fucking 1.00

07:04:20.740 gig. I can insert 1.00

07:04:22.960 my penis into their fake 1.00

07:04:24.500 neo-vagina. It's just a 1.00

07:04:26.900 fucking... Inside-out 1.00

07:04:28.940 rectum or testicles. 1.00

07:04:30.720 That's possible, right? So you're a lesbian, 1.00

07:04:33.040 right? Yes.

07:04:34.580 So would it be, would you

07:04:36.840 have some sort of objection and

07:04:38.680 you realize like maybe

07:04:40.700 you're not like getting handsy with the

07:04:42.840 trans person beforehand, right? So 0.95

07:04:44.720 could it be possible then that same scenario that

07:04:46.720 i painted she's with a pre-operative trans woman and that trans woman she's a lesbian by the way 1.00

07:04:52.660 that trans woman slides a penis into her vagina that would not it could definitely happen 1.00

07:04:58.720 it could definitely happen it has i know some like what's upsetting wait wait hold on 1.00

07:05:03.920 it could happen i feel like if that were to happen the other party would have had to be 0.99

07:05:08.660 incredibly intoxicated to not notice that their partner had a penis before they put it inside of 0.98

07:05:13.420 them and in that case that would be right you could just be making out and and then all of a 0.99

07:05:17.000 sudden there's just a dick that's inside you that's not how it works yes you know women often 1.00

07:05:21.680 wear dresses it's not like you would have to take a lot of stuff up it sounds like you guys have 1.00

07:05:25.540 never had sex because the penis doesn't just come out of the pants go immediately into a vagina 1.00

07:05:28.820 you've never like it literally does do that you can see it happens to me almost every day what 0.99

07:05:34.860 are you talking about it's crazy though right out and goes right yes that's how it works so do you

07:05:41.000 What do you mean?

07:05:41.900 You would see it before that happened.

07:05:43.840 You'd be like, wait, stop.

07:05:44.620 I'm not into that.

07:05:45.340 Not if you're in the dark and you're laying next to each other.

07:05:47.440 It's crazy.

07:05:48.420 Absolutely crazy.

07:05:49.160 You've never just been spooning a guy and then just.

07:05:51.840 But you would feel a boner, wouldn't you?

07:05:53.940 Would you?

07:05:54.280 So it's a woman, but you can see that it's not.

07:05:56.640 Wait, but question. 1.00

07:05:57.600 So has a lesbian been raped? 1.00

07:06:00.940 A lesbian? 1.00

07:06:02.220 I'm sure a lesbian. 1.00

07:06:03.360 She does not want a penis inside of her, but it's a trans woman who's free off. 1.00

07:06:07.580 If this happened and she did not want a penis inside of her 1.00

07:06:10.300 and she did not consent, then yes, that would be rape. 0.99

07:06:11.880 But I just don't think that would ever happen.

07:06:14.100 So it's only rape if it happens to the girl. 1.00

07:06:17.080 No, because also, how do you know that as a lesbian, 1.00

07:06:23.240 that that lesbian even likes penetration? 1.00

07:06:27.840 Oh, my God. 1.00

07:06:28.160 Because at that...

07:06:28.680 No, we're saying you weren't expecting it.

07:06:30.420 No, no, but what I'm saying... 0.99

07:06:31.760 You think you're spooning with your lesbian girlfriend. 0.99

07:06:34.840 You know, you're spooning. 0.84

07:06:36.040 she's behind you and you think you're cuddling and she's rubbing your back and then suddenly

07:06:40.660 you know just because you're naked you know you're naked in the bed and you're spooning

07:06:45.500 and then just whoop oopsie yeah what if that happens i'm i'm i think that you guys are the 0.98

07:06:53.440 ones that have never had sex this is so irrelevant though like i i've never had sex with someone 0.81

07:06:58.440 before like if i was going to have sex with someone i would know if they did or did not 0.92

07:07:01.980 have a penis not necessarily how would you not how would you know if they had never got i promise 0.99

07:07:07.820 you i know in real life seeing them in the flesh in a bikini couldn't find the very large penis 1.00

07:07:16.920 that they had really good at i don't know how you i don't know where it goes 0.92

07:07:20.740 there was no not showing honestly i i do want to i do want to move it on a little bit but just to

07:07:28.840 be clear your guys estrogen too it gets small your guys's position on this is that it is in fact

07:07:34.360 it's not gay for a man two males to have sex if they're both consenting no it is not gay even if

07:07:40.880 that is not gay because if it's trans then really quick let me walk through this again so okay 0.93

07:07:47.540 so a trans a man a man with a trans woman who's male two males two males having sex 0.99

07:07:56.000 so homosexual means two males having sex or two females having sex that's homosexual i think 0.95

07:08:03.620 that it has to do with gender it's not it's not it's not sexuality sexuality pertains to sex 0.86

07:08:11.780 not gender it would be homo gender-al if we're talking about gender that's just not the modern 0.93

07:08:18.200 day we live in well you guys are that's crazy dude crazy okay um what is a woman what is a woman 0.96

07:08:26.780 yeah what is a woman whatever the chromosomes are i don't remember if it's the xx or the xy 0.60

07:08:31.600 but whatever it's the chromosomes and that is what a biological or are we talking about female 1.00

07:08:36.620 woman woman woman would be someone that identifies as a woman a woman is somebody 1.00

07:08:41.140 a cat is a fucking cat okay super helpful my gender fluid cat i don't know what is a woman 1.00

07:08:46.960 I can't spay my cat she identifies it 1.00

07:08:49.740 What is a woman 1.00

07:08:50.440 Wait wait just say it

07:08:51.860 Everyone in this room right now we're at this table

07:08:55.480 Besides you

07:08:56.220 What is a woman 1.00

07:08:57.800 I think it can have multiple definitions

07:09:00.900 Biologically

07:09:02.100 It's with

07:09:04.040 X chromosome

07:09:05.580 XX chromosome is female 0.62

07:09:09.160 XY is male 1.00

07:09:10.900 Biologically yes

07:09:12.080 So a man can't become a woman 1.00

07:09:15.420 biologically no but but trans people know this they they know that by a lot they know the biology

07:09:24.260 i've never met a transgender person that wasn't aware that their biology is

07:09:30.060 um but if someone feels like a woman they are a woman why is it my like why is this even a topic

07:09:37.700 of conversation why don't you because obviously you guys are never like you're married i don't

07:09:43.560 know if you have a boyfriend i don't remember you didn't pay attention it's fine but either way like

07:09:47.160 why do you care is not an argument if it makes them happy and it makes them comfortable why

07:09:52.800 can't you just be an adult and have a conversation oh my god okay i tried to give you when you asked

07:09:57.880 that i gave you one reason which is i would want uh i would want to that to be disclosed because

07:10:02.820 i'm a heterosexual male i date women if transgender women are women i don't want to date a transgender 1.00

07:10:08.120 one though like how what is the chance of this scenario coming to fruition you care about all

07:10:12.740 kinds of stuff that doesn't affect you no but i've heard about things long that don't affect

07:10:18.560 you on dating apps so what on dating apps there's a i'm not on dating apps anymore but uh tons of

07:10:25.360 trans women on dating apps tons and it's conceivable that a straight man uh could be duped

07:10:31.600 could be duped i'll give you a few other reasons uh why it matters uh yeah kids should not be 1.00

07:10:37.320 getting fucking hormones and puberty blockers leave the fucking kids alone they don't belong 1.00

07:10:41.880 in the sports and they don't belong in women's bathrooms or women's spaces and uh the truth 1.00

07:10:47.940 matters inherently yes if we can't agree on reality we've got big problems and we're seeing

07:10:54.480 that right now why are you so sure that it's improbable for this to happen but also unsure

07:11:00.000 of the stats behind it because i haven't done research on it you haven't mike mike mike oh

07:11:05.280 sorry i haven't done research on it so my question was how are you so sure she's not of my real life

07:11:10.900 experience none of you have ever had this real life experience does not equate to the rest of

07:11:15.440 the world are you listening at all i'm severely doubting that i don't care what you doubt because

07:11:21.480 you don't know anything at all besides what's trending on twitter i've never heard this happen

07:11:25.780 to anyone in my entire life so okay wait question for you question for you real quick it's not my

07:11:31.000 problem it's fine that you don't care i have a question for you though how many transgendered

07:11:35.840 confirmed people have you met in this is a two-parter okay in my life how many confirmed

07:11:40.640 transgender people have you spoken to physically uh i think three how many transgender people are 0.96

07:11:47.860 there in the world no fucking exactly i'm down for pizza pizza can't eat gluten of course i know 0.99

07:11:57.820 Oh, I know. 0.97

07:11:58.380 Shocker.

07:11:58.740 Oh, boy.

07:12:00.080 Pizza?

07:12:01.520 Pizza?

07:12:02.100 Yes.

07:12:02.960 Yes?

07:12:03.840 Yes?

07:12:04.860 Yes, yes?

07:12:05.940 Absolutely.

07:12:06.800 Rachel?

07:12:06.940 I'll have a piece.

07:12:07.800 Okay, I'll order some.

07:12:09.320 How much longer do you think we're going to be here?

07:12:11.740 I don't know.

07:12:12.160 We'll see.

07:12:12.480 We have some time.

07:12:13.560 I have to drive home after this, and I've been driving since 6 a.m.

07:12:17.220 Read this for me, please.

07:12:19.140 All right.

07:12:19.900 Jamo Juice donated $100.

07:12:22.000 Brian and Rachel would love to hear your opinions and guests.

07:12:25.200 being called a misogynist today is like being called a witch in the past impossible to prove

07:12:31.560 give your proof i think so burn i'll give like a 10 second response to this jama juice thank you

07:12:37.580 for that for that i mean i think it's basically just a convenient labeling it's very easy to just

07:12:42.560 throw out sexist racist transphobic uh all these sort of buzzword labels as a method to kind of

07:12:49.120 tear down your opponent without actually forwarding any proof or evidence for the claim and it's just

07:12:54.660 It can be effective, at least for that side of the political aisle.

07:12:59.620 Yeah.

07:13:00.260 Brian nailed it.

07:13:02.500 Yeah, that was mic dropped.

07:13:03.820 Mic dropped.

07:13:04.100 Very well argued.

07:13:04.660 Boom.

07:13:05.660 Jamma Juice, again, he asks if you can read this one.

07:13:13.220 Oh, is it the same one?

07:13:15.560 Being called a massagist nowadays is similar to being called a witch.

07:13:18.400 Oh, you sent it twice.

07:13:19.260 Well, Jamma Juice, thank you very much for the duplication there.

07:13:21.860 You want to make sure you saw him.

07:13:22.820 Sebby's in the chat for Jammo Juice.

07:13:24.820 Jammo Juice.

07:13:25.620 Welcome, welcome.

07:13:26.820 We've got Pasty George here if you can read this. 0.99

07:13:30.580 Fake kitty cat is not only faking, oh, fucking gross and an abomination to nature, 1.00

07:13:39.280 but is also completely disrespectful to biological women. 1.00

07:13:42.380 Agree.

07:13:43.340 Brian's eeah to the fake kitty was funny as hell.

07:13:47.760 I feel like I have something for, I don't know, I can't find it. 0.99

07:13:52.820 Um, yeah, no, that is, I do want to say, uh, that's fucking disgusting. 0.99

07:14:00.980 I don't know how you could call another human disgusting. 1.00

07:14:03.120 I just think that's so fucked up. 1.00

07:14:04.240 What about pedophiles? 1.00

07:14:05.280 Pedophiles are disgusting. 1.00

07:14:06.180 Humans, but pedophiles are disgusting. 1.00

07:14:07.400 Oh, no, no, no. 1.00

07:14:09.880 So you're putting transgender people and pedophiles on the same level? 0.80

07:14:13.140 No, I'm not, but you're kind of people. 0.99

07:14:13.920 You just called a transgender person disgusting and then said, what about pedophiles? 1.00

07:14:16.480 He said their fake vagina was disgusting. 1.00

07:14:18.820 He said the vagina was disgusting. 1.00

07:14:20.220 The fake vagina was disgusting. 1.00

07:14:21.220 Well, I think deceiving a straight man into fucking you when you're a biological male, I find that disgusting. 1.00

07:14:29.420 I find it morally reprehensible. 1.00

07:14:31.460 I think you have a duty to disclose.

07:14:33.860 Like you already said, it was not good to be dishonest.

07:14:35.260 By the way, just to be clear, I don't have, like, hatred for trans people. 0.98

07:14:39.740 I believe many of them suffer from a mental illness. 0.95

07:14:44.080 Some of them do it for attention. 0.73

07:14:45.800 They have body, is it dysmorphia?

07:14:49.020 Dysmorphia.

07:14:50.200 Dysmorphia.

07:14:50.760 They have body or gender dysmorphia, and I don't want them to be attacked.

07:14:56.140 I don't want them to get beat up.

07:14:57.320 I don't want them to face any violence.

07:14:59.380 I want them to maneuver in the world in a positive way, as positive as they can, and I hope good things for them.

07:15:05.340 I have no resentment or hatred for these people, but if you're asking me in a situation where they could conceivably deceive somebody into having sex with them,

07:15:13.660 I would find it disgusting, for example, if a parent were to give their children, in furtherance of gender-affirming care, the hormones or whatever, or puberty blockers, that is disgusting. 0.70

07:15:26.240 It's reprehensible. 1.00

07:15:26.860 The data that's come out on that now is like, that shit's over. 0.99

07:15:30.160 Because for a few years, they could get away with saying, oh, we think that gender-affirming care helps. 0.97

07:15:34.780 And now we've got another 10 years of data showing that it's really, really bad as far as outcomes.

07:15:40.500 personally i'm very thankful that i was born in 81 versus now because i i feel so bad i've always

07:15:47.980 been a tall skinny girl i got teased for having small breasts and i could easily see if i was

07:15:53.680 born today yeah yeah that somebody would be oh you're in the wrong body yeah i was a top boy

07:15:58.880 growing up when i turned i got called a boy a number of times to get whatever haircut i wanted

07:16:03.380 and i got a buzz cut and i acted like a boy and i played with boys and i had like a radical marxist

07:16:09.300 mom and i think if it was 30 years later she would have pushed me toward maybe being a boy i don't

07:16:14.300 know but i have the exact same experience i was a chumbler growing up too and i was super

07:16:18.020 uncomfortable with my lady body till i was like 19 i wore boys clothes yeah and as a minor if i

07:16:24.960 wanted to get a breast augmentation it would have been really hard to find a surgeon or surgeon that 0.95

07:16:30.220 would have done that to me as a minor you know i think by the time i got to have my brain fully

07:16:35.860 developed i was like i you know i'm good with what i have and you know yeah all right pizza's

07:16:43.700 on its way um okay so uh let's blast through we're gonna move off the trans thing but um 0.99

07:16:48.920 wait do we have to pretend that surgically turning your genitals inside out and pretending 0.99

07:16:54.120 that it's a vagina isn't gross though that is not gross that's super duper disgusting 1.00

07:17:01.280 They slice it. 0.98

07:17:02.520 Have you seen them do it?

07:17:03.860 Have you actually, like, looked up the surgery and seen it?

07:17:05.500 And circumcision isn't gross, then? 0.61

07:17:06.920 It is gross. 0.97

07:17:07.300 That is gross, too. 1.00

07:17:08.620 But it's even worse to slice open a dick and flip it inside out, and then you've got to 0.99

07:17:14.440 stick stuff in there to try to keep it open, and it smells, and there's, like, all these 0.99

07:17:18.120 problems.

07:17:18.740 It's just, no.

07:17:19.500 And then the lasting, lifelong pharmaceuticals you're going to have to put in your body,

07:17:24.940 even take out the surgery, like, that's not good for you.

07:17:28.280 So, okay, Rachel, you asked a really good question.

07:17:31.280 So you have an objection to the, like, the genitalial preference.

07:17:35.180 Yeah.

07:17:35.500 I have an objection.

07:17:36.420 What do you mean by that?

07:17:36.900 Well, so, okay.

07:17:38.500 You object to the categorization that it's gross.

07:17:41.040 So what about this?

07:17:42.940 What if I think it's gross for me?

07:17:45.260 Then that's fine.

07:17:45.820 Hold on, hold on, hold on. 0.65

07:17:46.980 What if I think it's gross for me to cross swords with not a trans woman, but a dude? 0.84

07:17:52.360 Sword fight. 1.00

07:17:53.040 Like, I would think it's gross to touch my penis to another dude's penis. 1.00

07:17:56.520 Then don't touch your penis to another dude's penis. 1.00

07:17:57.840 No, but is it okay? 1.00

07:17:58.400 It's not a penis anymore, and since it's a vagina. 1.00

07:18:00.180 That makes no sense. 0.99

07:18:00.960 Is that okay if he's asking if it still is, though?

07:18:04.040 Listen to the question.

07:18:05.760 This is not a trans person. 1.00

07:18:07.580 This is a gay male. 0.70

07:18:09.620 Okay. 1.00

07:18:11.280 Is it wrong for me to find it gross for me to touch my penis to another man's penis? 1.00

07:18:17.840 Yes, you're allowed to think that it's gross. 1.00

07:18:20.120 Okay.

07:18:20.440 Okay, so, but you're saying it's not gross. 0.99

07:18:24.040 So if that same penile tissue is inverted into a surgically incised hole in the man's pubic or the transgender woman's pubic area, it's still the same tissue. 0.99

07:18:38.220 You agree, right? 0.99

07:18:39.060 It is the same tissue, but it's not a penis anymore. 1.00

07:18:41.140 It's a penis that's flipped inside out. 1.00

07:18:44.020 It is still a penis. 1.00

07:18:45.500 It's even fucking worse. 1.00

07:18:46.320 It's a mutilated penis. 1.00

07:18:47.740 Because now it's like a hole with a wound. 1.00

07:18:53.000 and it's like i'll be honest this is gonna sound gay as fuck i'd rather cross swords than insert 0.99

07:19:00.880 into a whole like i know you swear like that's crazy dog i'm so sorry i hope you guys never 0.99

07:19:08.620 run into any situations to me bag or something you know it's like it's just the fact that anyone

07:19:15.180 ever thought this would could could be normal i've never even heard trans like we've had like 1.00

07:19:20.360 left leftist and like liberal and trans or well we've had like two trans people on the show

07:19:26.200 yeah yeah i've never heard someone like actually garlock was not as hardcore as you i've never

07:19:34.020 heard someone go to wait would it be wrong for me to reject a trans person because they're trans

07:19:38.440 no because that is that if they disclose that they're trans and that's not something you want

07:19:43.000 to do then no okay all right uh new topic uh let's see here we're gonna blast through this as quick

07:19:48.920 as we can uh let's see raven you write you would hold on let's do this actually uh maya oh boy

07:19:57.720 wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex yeah because

07:20:01.800 if you have a girlfriend it's because you love them it shouldn't just be because you want to

07:20:04.840 them it's a big part of it why not just be friends then wait before before we dive in grace you also

07:20:11.320 agree with the statement uh mariana you agree with the statement wrong for a man to dump his

07:20:16.680 girlfriend if she regularly turns in you did circle the statement oh did i okay so do you want

07:20:22.360 to take it back grace but you do agree wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly

07:20:26.760 i mean i would have to understand more context yeah i need more context okay here i'll give a

07:20:31.720 hypothetical and it the the severity could be more or less but uh hmm the boyfriend uh

07:20:41.400 the woman is not sick this wasn't just a one time she's got the flu and she doesn't want to 1.00

07:20:46.200 fuck uh she's otherwise healthy but they have sex one time per month and he's brought it to 0.99

07:20:55.600 her attention like hey babe i love you but listen i i have a high sex drive i would like to have 1.00

07:21:00.680 sex with you more frequently and she's like you know i'm just not i've got a low sex drive 0.95

07:21:06.240 now of course you should always respect boundaries and consent but this isn't a conversation about

07:21:10.860 consent it's is it justified or okay for a man to dump to have to break up with her girlfriend

07:21:17.560 if she is not uh i suppose sexually satisfying him i think i probably misread that because i

07:21:24.320 think sex is important in relation okay so you're fine with it does it change for you i think it's 0.96

07:21:28.780 okay if they dump them if that's their opinion but i think it's fucked up like i don't think 0.93

07:21:32.920 it's correct but if that's the decision they make that is none of my business what are the

07:21:36.700 scenarios in which somebody can dump somebody i don't know it doesn't matter it's their relationship

07:21:41.420 i have no you just said it wasn't okay it's not okay it doesn't matter like it's in my mind that

07:21:47.340 it's a fucked up wait can i ask you a question absolutely that scenario i gave maybe you like 0.96

07:21:51.800 well the guy's being unreasonable in that i don't think so um i'm dating a girl for a year at the 0.99

07:21:57.580 year mark she fully stops having sex with me is it okay to and she wants me to be a monogamous to 1.00

07:22:04.820 her. Yeah. Would it be wrong for me to cheat on her? Yes. Cause you're cheating on her. Okay. I 0.99

07:22:12.840 don't think you should cheat on, but on somebody in that situation, I'd recommend somebody breaking

07:22:16.160 up. Yeah. I'd recommend somebody breaking up. If sex is that important to you? Of course sex is

07:22:20.680 important, but hold on. Um, so, okay. She fully stops having sex with me and I, I've stayed with 0.92

07:22:26.860 her for six months hoping that we could, and we go to therapy and I'm, I have conversations with her. 0.99

07:22:34.820 You're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want with your life 1.00

07:22:36.640 But is it still fucked up for me to dump her 1.00

07:22:39.300 If we haven't fucked for six months 0.99

07:22:40.800 If that happened to me I would be pretty upset

07:22:42.760 But other people's relationships have nothing to do with me

07:22:46.280 Okay let me

07:22:46.720 Oh my god 0.99

07:22:47.780 Your position was it's fucked up to dump somebody 1.00

07:22:50.520 Because they are 1.00

07:22:51.240 They are regularly turning them down for sex 0.97

07:22:54.560 In my mind yes 0.91

07:22:56.040 Okay

07:22:56.440 I would be upset if that happened to me

07:22:57.700 Let's say I've been dating a girl for a year

07:22:59.300 And we're both in love

07:23:00.180 And then she just

07:23:01.180 I don't know 0.98

07:23:01.580 She decides to stop having sex with me 1.00

07:23:03.500 It happens a lot

07:23:04.380 It happened to my best friend who was married

07:23:06.600 I don't know because I've never been in that situation 0.99

07:23:09.320 Okay, but you said it's fucked up 0.98

07:23:11.280 Is it still fucked up in that scenario? 0.99

07:23:13.560 In my mind, yeah 0.98

07:23:14.500 I feel like you love someone for more than their body

07:23:16.420 You love them because of who they are

07:23:17.640 So then I am obligated to stay with this woman 1.00

07:23:19.760 Then do it

07:23:22.480 I mean, that's not my problem

07:23:24.460 Why would you be upset?

07:23:27.860 Wait, what about this?

07:23:29.660 What if, like, take it a step further

07:23:31.560 It's not just

07:23:32.280 Billy Eyelash

07:23:34.100 it's not just dating what if um so i have a best friend who was dating a girl

07:23:41.980 three years eventually they got married and within the first two or three months of them being

07:23:50.200 married everything's gone no more blowjobs barely kissing no sex nothing that is a very big 0.61

07:23:57.520 switch up in a relationship to say that sex is not important and i'm probably one of the 0.99

07:24:03.960 biggest prudes is very inaccurate. You date someone for a reason. It's more than just a

07:24:09.580 physical attraction. There's a sexual attraction there. What is the point of dating someone if

07:24:15.460 there's nothing else after that? For me, maybe it's a traditional point of view, but I'm not

07:24:22.440 going to date Brian for a couple of months and be like, on to the next. I'm going to date Brian

07:24:28.040 because i want to be in a committed relationship see where it goes have a family you know all the 1.00

07:24:35.940 important discussions and if brian puts a ring on my finger and suddenly it was just like fuck 0.99

07:24:42.840 this sex it's never gonna happen again what what do we take vows for what have we been what 0.98

07:24:48.820 yeah also that's a horrific form of rejection that's a very painful rejection i think more

07:24:54.340 for a man than a woman too well a little bit it happened to me in my first marriage for a while

07:25:00.060 and it was extremely painful for me and i thought i'm very young and i'm gonna have to go the rest

07:25:04.600 of my life like i can't do that like what am i supposed to do see i was on the other side of it

07:25:11.080 i i did that to somebody oh and i started sleeping like in the other room and you know i was going

07:25:18.100 through my own shit and blaming them for everything and just in victim mentality so you were like it 0.68

07:25:22.920 wasn't just the sex you were mad at them for other reasons it was yeah i was just not looking at 0.99

07:25:28.340 things i was doing and i was blaming them and i was villainizing them and then it turned into i'm

07:25:34.680 no longer sexually attracted to you i'm gonna go sleep in the other room but i'm gonna say that i 0.74

07:25:38.220 have a backache type of type of situation what did i miss did i miss something she's gonna marry you

07:25:44.180 Who?

07:25:44.680 If you have her name, Marion, she expects some D, Brian.

07:25:48.660 She wants that steady vitamin D if you're going to put her right on. 0.99

07:25:50.940 I do have.

07:25:52.380 I'm like, just my size.

07:25:54.020 Perfect.

07:25:54.580 You've got to do the music.

07:25:55.740 There you go.

07:25:57.580 Thank you.

07:25:58.900 Lexington.

07:25:59.660 Does it fit you?

07:26:00.600 Lexington.

07:26:01.880 Will you marry me?

07:26:03.200 Okay.

07:26:03.820 All right.

07:26:05.520 We do have a TTS coming through.

07:26:07.220 Hold on.

07:26:07.560 Let me let that come through.

07:26:09.320 Thank you, Based Justin.

07:26:10.700 Based Justin donated $200.

07:26:13.320 Thank you, Justin.

07:26:13.880 C2 has clearly not evolved past clump of cells, let alone the frontal cortex.

07:26:18.860 Please make sure she's not ever responsible for anything at all, except for blowing a whistle at ice vehicles.

07:26:26.400 Godspeed, girl.

07:26:27.540 Did you do that?

07:26:28.360 No. 1.00

07:26:29.020 I actually had this situation where my friend was driving and we were pulled over because she was swerving and being a dumbass. 1.00

07:26:36.520 No, but she – 0.99

07:26:37.380 Wait, wait.

07:26:37.640 We had this –

07:26:38.380 Were you just like intentionally being a contrarian so you get all the attention?

07:26:40.920 No, no, no. 0.97

07:26:41.440 No, I'm saying a good thing about this because they pulled us over and the cops were like dealing with us like they were doing the DUI testing on her and shit. 0.96

07:26:48.260 And there was this woman standing there filming being like, oh, like, I'm just concerned about all the ice shit going on and what you're going to get hate crimed and all this stuff. 1.00

07:26:55.640 And I went over and talked to her and made her leave because that was not OK. 0.97

07:26:58.720 I'm not like super unreasonably.

07:27:01.440 OK, so anyways.

07:27:03.320 I was told seven or eight hours.

07:27:04.780 It's been eight hours.

07:27:05.940 Well, it's your fault because you were late.

07:27:08.200 I was too late.

07:27:08.880 Sometimes we go longer.

07:27:10.520 What can I say?

07:27:10.960 A woman should not be rejected because of her weight. 1.00

07:27:14.000 Lexi, you agree.

07:27:16.620 Hold on.

07:27:17.400 Some other people agreed on this.

07:27:19.980 One sec.

07:27:23.120 Lexi, you agree.

07:27:24.520 And then Mariana, you agree.

07:27:26.880 A woman should not be rejected because of her weight. 1.00

07:27:29.260 Why is that?

07:27:31.200 Now I feel like I misread this because is it rejection in the relationship?

07:27:35.700 Like, let's say.

07:27:36.400 No, no, no.

07:27:36.720 this would be like a dating app or like a in a club yeah because that's different if you want

07:27:43.100 if i was like because when i got pregnant my i got big yeah so it's just like an upfront rejection

07:27:48.960 then lexi yeah i take that back closer to the mic i think that

07:27:56.140 when you physically view someone who is extremely overweight it's a health concern

07:28:06.640 um i feel that whether you're a man or a woman it's more the your back thought are you 0.99

07:28:15.960 rejecting a person because ew you're a flat fat slob and you're lazy or 0.97

07:28:23.480 can you potentially look past it a little bit does this person have the ability to lose weight 0.71

07:28:30.060 what else are they bringing to the table i don't think a person's their weight should necessarily

07:28:35.780 be a main factor of rejection but i'll be honest i am not going to date an overly large man because

07:28:46.920 for me it doesn't always seem like you're taking care of yourself but it could there can be a

07:28:53.240 multitude of reasons not fat shaming maybe you're big boned it's genetics you have a health concern

07:28:58.400 see but you have to be sexually attracted to your partner you know so i feel like it's fair

07:29:04.420 to to pick a partner off of weight because if i'm not sexually attracted to him like

07:29:09.040 why you know you have to be i don't know i think both scenarios like so what you you are deriving

07:29:18.360 from their uh them being overweight you might be able to make some some value calls in terms of

07:29:24.780 are they are they lazy are they unhealthy it shows your health but i think i think it's actually

07:29:30.220 perfectly fine let's say they aren't lazy let's say they are uh they are otherwise healthy absent

07:29:36.480 their weight right um i think it's totally fine just from a purely aesthetic perspective yeah

07:29:42.860 even if you're just not like you're because physical attraction it pertains into it too

07:29:47.220 so i think rejection on that basis alone is totally acceptable sure because if you want

07:29:53.260 your kids to look a certain way and you plan on reproducing with them you know it's like

07:29:56.560 you just don't want to get busy you don't want to have bad genes you don't think looks good

07:29:59.880 personally it might be a hot take for me but i just like will not date someone with the fat gene

07:30:07.300 that's just me i'm not even like trying to be that's fine because i i genetically like my

07:30:13.380 everybody in my family you know we're relatively skinny and i genuinely just like that's just a

07:30:20.920 that's just a thing for me all right uh past should not i think this might be the last one

07:30:25.620 or second last one on the questionnaire past should not matter body count to which maya 1.00

07:30:30.800 you think passion don't matter uh hold on uh no raven you might be the only oh no mariana

07:30:41.000 passion not matter body count uh okay uh just you two really quickly why should past not matter

07:30:47.960 wish a body count not matter is it immature for men to care about that i think it's immature for

07:30:54.080 men to care about that if they have a double standard if they have uh insane body count and 1.00

07:31:00.000 expect their woman to be a virgin i think that is ludicrous because that's hypocritical why do you 0.87

07:31:05.200 expect that from somebody else i'm actually i think it's totally fine yeah but why do you think

07:31:09.820 that because it's sorry go ahead rachel yeah because as a woman you might want all kinds of

07:31:16.020 things from the guy that are not going to apply to you and here's the main thing with this i actually

07:31:20.820 just tweeted about this so you would have a point if girls were like really into virgin dudes but 0.62

07:31:28.200 girls almost universally don't find virgin guys attractive we and i'm not saying everyone there's

07:31:34.120 some good christian women out there that want a nice virgin boy and ideally we want to all be 1.00

07:31:38.280 chased until marriage but if we're just talking about what women want in a man they like the men

07:31:43.480 that all the other women like and those dudes have usually been with a lot of women because 0.74

07:31:48.640 they can get the access so if we were all chasing after virgin men I think that would be a fine 0.86

07:31:54.660 standard to have but you can't like put the demand out into the market that we want these

07:31:59.800 sexy player guys that can get whoever they want that's the guys that we all go for but we also

07:32:05.820 want them to only want virgins if we want virgins because we don't want virgins men do want women 0.99

07:32:12.540 with a really low body count or less bodies because of biological reasons for assurance of

07:32:18.440 paternity and just because guys kind of get the ick like we're the on the receiving end of the

07:32:23.460 body fluids just to be perfectly frank okay see but as a woman i get the ick if i you know find

07:32:29.300 out that a guy because if you just ran through bro like i'm sorry that's fine that just no i think

07:32:35.080 i think dudes no no it's yeah i think i think that's fair though if you're not if you don't

07:32:40.140 like that totally fair but i also think that if you're a guy who um has been with a lot of women

07:32:46.660 and you still prefer a woman with a really low body count i think that's also if she's okay with 1.00

07:32:52.040 it then that's her you know but personally i have a very very low body count and my partner i am

07:32:58.040 literally his only one you know he was took his v card i did i did i don't know if i should be

07:33:03.740 really disclosing that on there it is just to be clear like uh i'm totally fine like if a woman 1.00

07:33:12.620 has a preference towards low body count men or even virgin totally fine i mean i wasn't like a

07:33:18.620 virgin hunter i think that's ideal i'm just saying that's not usually like usually the guys that all

07:33:25.700 the women want are the guys who can get all the girls and have gotten them all like is it weird 0.52

07:33:30.900 that like all of my serious relationships we never had that conversation like i never had to ask them

07:33:36.900 oh i always ask i never had asked i'm scared of getting a disease more new it's a bit more of a

07:33:43.200 new thing okay like the asking so i'm old no i mean i just knew no i just think it it's it's like

07:33:52.340 a new more of a new i don't know i'm 45 and every i again a little closer very small sample size i

07:33:57.840 also have only been with a couple of people but it's always been a conversation that's been had

07:34:02.680 i've definitely yeah even before some of the these conversations became a bit more 0.76

07:34:09.420 um mainstream i guess you could say yeah i definitely remember like shit 10 15 years ago

07:34:15.600 being like so how many i didn't say body count but i was probably like so how many guys have you 0.79

07:34:20.040 hooked up with or whatever how many guys have you um so yeah um but the oh well i guess going

07:34:27.260 around the table uh body count so because my boyfriend you know i'm his only one i just feel

07:34:34.540 like i shouldn't because i have that's the only time i've never we'll come back to you body count

07:34:38.540 but you said very low body count no it is very very low yeah it's very low i just don't want to

07:34:43.680 disclose the number passion not matter just so we're clear passion not matter body count should

07:34:48.380 matter but scared to reveal it it's no one's business why is it any anywhere prevalent you

07:34:54.420 You could do a lot to de-stigmatize.

07:34:55.760 We're also like an hour over time.

07:34:57.680 Whoa, wait, wait, hold on.

07:34:59.040 Whoa, I don't need the sass from you.

07:35:00.820 I feel like my time is being disrespected.

07:35:02.740 Your time is being disrespected.

07:35:03.640 Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

07:35:04.400 To be clear, the agreement is to stay for the full show.

07:35:09.300 Yes, but I thought it would be seven or eight hours.

07:35:11.920 Well, hold on.

07:35:12.740 It also says may go longer.

07:35:15.260 And pizza.

07:35:16.200 It does say may go longer.

07:35:16.520 It does say that part.

07:35:17.580 And the pizza's here, but she doesn't want any.

07:35:19.420 Didn't you take work off?

07:35:21.120 I still have to be back.

07:35:22.400 I have two jobs.

07:35:23.020 I have to be back by 3 tomorrow, and I have to be able to get sleep.

07:35:25.140 Yeah, I have to get on a plane at, like, 10.

07:35:27.140 Me, too.

07:35:27.680 I literally have to be up in a couple hours.

07:35:30.800 We're going to blast through it.

07:35:32.280 Okay.

07:35:33.120 So I think that's – oh, body count.

07:35:36.300 Three.

07:35:36.880 Three?

07:35:37.300 Okay.

07:35:37.820 Low.

07:35:38.840 You want to give a range, I guess?

07:35:40.680 Five, I think.

07:35:41.400 Okay.

07:35:41.980 Five.

07:35:44.300 Six or seven, something like that.

07:35:46.160 Four.

07:35:47.060 I can count on my hands.

07:35:49.140 Hands, plural.

07:35:50.660 So more than five?

07:35:51.820 Less than ten?

07:35:52.940 okay did you not believe me already said really low okay I can count on one hand I can count on

07:36:01.600 one hand but I don't want to disclose the number because my boyfriend has okay I'm the only girl

07:36:05.580 I'm a virgin I am a virgin multiply it by three that's all right I believe I believe that is it

07:36:18.300 for the questionnaire we do have some closing things though uh the pizza has arrived rip

07:36:25.200 uh okay let's see what we can get into let me blast through the notes then there's like the

07:36:31.600 questions that need to be asked all right uh one sec guys okay uh let's go to sorry guys uh

07:36:43.920 Lexi the struggle of dating as an influencer slash content creator

07:36:48.580 wait have you ever done like OF or anything Lexi no no sexy snaps no nothing like that 0.93

07:36:56.060 no OF girls here see everyone's like oh Brian remember fucking Drina Drano yesterday there's 1.00

07:37:03.400 a perception that you only bring on sex work it's like there's no fucking well she's a sex 0.99

07:37:07.280 worker but she doesn't do oh she doesn't do like porn or nude content or whatever uh wait grace 1.00

07:37:12.720 okay um uh not sure if you ever talk about domestic violence in september you left your

07:37:20.260 daughter's dad after he got physical with you you're the one that called 9-11 scared but because

07:37:24.280 you bit him you're the one that got arrested you were in jail for 48 hours and all charges were

07:37:29.540 dropped now your ex is manipulating the court system to get custody of your daughter oh he

07:37:35.640 filed a temporary restraining order against me wow wait he was i was a little closer to me yeah i was

07:37:42.220 100 the default parent um he was diagnosed with cancer last year okay um yeah and just some

07:37:49.460 clarifying questions prior to and besides this incident had there ever been any physical

07:37:53.600 altercations or dv before uh no it was so this was like a kind of unique one-time occurrence i mean

07:38:02.020 his ex-wife when he and i first started dating he told me that she called him a narcissist and i

07:38:09.960 was like no she's crazy um yeah um but there wasn't prior to this specific incident he had

07:38:18.160 no physical he had not laid hands on you before okay um had there been ever been instances of

07:38:24.760 non-reciprocal like you were hitting him before okay um and how long had you been with him

07:38:30.760 um we met the end of 2020 so you who initiated the this one physical altercation uh he shoved

07:38:39.700 me first he um what was there something that led up to that like he didn't i'm assuming he didn't 0.99

07:38:47.080 just walk up to you no it was stupid um so with him being diagnosed with cancer last year his mom 0.98

07:38:54.560 and sister decided to come visit for extended periods of time um june last year it was 0.99

07:39:02.080 oh so um i'll get for more context um my best friend last year was also diagnosed with stage

07:39:09.620 four pancreatic cancer the end of january so him being diagnosed and my friend being diagnosed like

07:39:16.620 my stress levels was up here and so i didn't really feel like his mom and sister were

07:39:24.700 the best to come visit in June because I was trying to feed him a clean organic diet and

07:39:32.100 they are very you know generic American diet and I said I thought it would be more helpful for him

07:39:38.540 to come or for them to come visit when his son was going to be there over the summer

07:39:42.280 and then when he was going through radiation treatment and all that and you know my opinions

07:39:48.920 weren't considered at all and I kind of had a little bit of a breakdown while they were there

07:39:56.160 in June. His mom was like putting dishes away in the wrong spot which was really stressful for me

07:40:03.500 because I was trying to control the small little things that I could control. She was trying to

07:40:10.700 put one of my expensive Cutco pots in the oven to cook a roast and I said oh that doesn't go in the

07:40:18.420 oven and instead of being like oh I'm so sorry what would you rather me use she's like fighting 0.79

07:40:23.000 me on like putting my expensive pot in the oven and when I wasn't paying attention his mom and

07:40:34.880 sister completely raided where all of my daughter's clothes was where I was the one who prior to that 1.00

07:40:39.860 was always the one putting it away and taking care of all that so I kind of like went to look

07:40:45.540 for a pair of shorts or something and it wasn't there and it just was like yeah um so then in

07:40:53.960 september um they were coming back after his son had already left and i i had said that i didn't

07:41:01.980 feel like it was a good time and that they should delay their visit and he lied to me and said that

07:41:07.500 they bought non-refundable tickets um i also said that you know it was going to be my birthday and

07:41:13.880 I didn't really want them there for my birthday because I wanted to have a more relaxing birthday

07:41:18.760 low-key. I didn't want extra company there and so this was the DV incident happened two days after

07:41:28.880 my birthday. I had told my daughter earlier in the day that if she didn't eat her food that she 1.00

07:41:34.320 couldn't watch shows later. Her dad and grandma were out running errands and I was home with

07:41:39.420 her aunt and when they got home i went back to my room and was just kind of getting some of my own

07:41:48.160 space um i came back out later to get some food and i saw my daughter watching shows and i said

07:41:55.240 oh you're not supposed to be watching shows so i took the tablet away and she threw a big old fit 1.00

07:42:02.720 and they were all watching a movie so i took her back to my room and i was trying to calm her down 0.91

07:42:08.040 um she i've come to understand more so that especially at such a young age taking a tablet

07:42:18.460 away from a child is a bigger response that you're going to get um so he and his sister

07:42:26.780 came back to my room and started accusing me of abusing my daughter because she had thrown a fit 1.00

07:42:33.640 and she hadn't calmed down yet so I was in kind of mama bear defense mode he and I were arguing

07:42:41.060 I said I didn't want him to take her out what I should have said is I didn't want him undermining

07:42:46.440 my authority I'd given her discipline and was following through with what I said and he it was

07:42:52.520 like something snapped in him and he just shoves me out of the way and takes our daughter to the

07:42:58.180 front and i followed after him um i had her on my hip i was trying to get back to my room and he's

07:43:05.180 blocking the way like this and for the sake of time i'm very sorry there's been a lot of

07:43:10.800 yeah frankly irrelevant well i i think it's actually it's interesting though because it

07:43:16.920 sounds like a lot of very small things led up to this have you considered that like maybe you have

07:43:24.040 like some emotional like regulation problems maybe i mean i know cancer is stressful and

07:43:28.920 things like that but at your age to have a domestic violence incident over like a kid

07:43:34.720 and a tablet or people visiting or a pot or clothes like no so what happened was he grabbed

07:43:40.800 her out of my arms and then he was restraining me from behind and so i bit him on the inside

07:43:44.960 of his wrist but why would you if things are escalating like that why are you trying to like

07:43:51.800 do I feel like it could have been handled like way before it ever got to that point and it sounds

07:43:59.160 like with both relationships you're kind of saying like these things were just happening to you

07:44:04.220 like you didn't have I mean I mean agency in handling things or realizing hey this is just a

07:44:14.320 pot hey I want him to be on the organic diet because I think it's best but if he wants to

07:44:19.200 Put the food in his mouth, you know?

07:44:21.440 No, I mean, at the end of the day, he's an adult.

07:44:23.320 He gets to feed himself what he wants to.

07:44:24.980 Right.

07:44:25.880 Yeah.

07:44:27.840 I'm just saying, like, I would have expected it to be, like, serious.

07:44:33.780 If you were 22, that would be different.

07:44:35.920 But at our age, to get into a DB on that.

07:44:38.140 Had his mom and sister not been there, I don't think this would have happened.

07:44:41.540 I don't think that's a good reason.

07:44:45.100 I mean.

07:44:45.800 Just from this, you're telling the story,

07:44:47.540 So I'm just going off of what you're telling me.

07:44:50.320 Oh, sorry.

07:44:51.480 Didn't mean to cut you off there, Rachel, if you wanted to continue.

07:44:54.500 But can we, I guess, from what I heard, what was the immediate thing that happened prior to the shove?

07:45:06.860 I know there's buildup.

07:45:08.660 He was trying to argue with me, trying to take our daughter out of my room, and I said no.

07:45:12.840 Why did he try to take the daughter out of the room? 0.87

07:45:14.740 because he accused me of abusing her because i took a tablet away from her and she got upset

07:45:19.040 so i wouldn't i mean that wouldn't i don't think that'd be abusive to take a tablet away

07:45:26.260 no but i don't know all the details i don't think so either but if the child if the child is upset

07:45:30.460 and he as the dad comes in and says okay you and her are having a moment you know you she's upset

07:45:37.980 you're upset i'm taking her out of here why would you bite him why wouldn't you let him take the 0.62

07:45:43.720 child out of the situation let her calm down let you calm down why would you bite him and then why

07:45:48.660 would you bite him at that point i bit him when he was restraining me and wouldn't let me go

07:45:53.380 why was he restraining you so he usually when you're restraining somebody it's

07:45:59.980 like you don't just walk up to somebody who's not doing anything he restrained me after he

07:46:05.800 pulled her daughter from my arms but what happened between that like did you happen to say like oh

07:46:11.060 I'm going to do this, or I'm not going to let you take her, like, I'm not saying it's your fault,

07:46:14.980 but is there, like, a detail between when he restrained you and that moment from the tablet?

07:46:20.420 Does that make sense? So I was in my room with my daughter. We were verbally arguing. He decided

07:46:27.640 he didn't want to argue anymore, and he shoves me out of the way. I'd never had anybody put their

07:46:31.900 hands on me before, so he took her daughter in the other room. I got her back and was trying to

07:46:37.400 go back to my room because I didn't feel safe. It sounds like he was trying to de-escalate a

07:46:46.520 situation with you and the kid and you were so worked up because you had you just told me all

07:46:51.640 that other detail to let me know that you were you said I had a bit of a breakdown you know I

07:46:58.720 had a bit of a mental breakdown over all this stress so it sounds like he was seeing that you

07:47:04.420 out of control the kid is upset i gotta separate them and you took that as him you know uh overstepping

07:47:13.620 or trying to take her from you or something when maybe he was trying to de-escalate i don't know

07:47:17.940 i wasn't there but i mean how would you take it if somebody accused you of abusing your child

07:47:26.420 when you were not abusing them well I wouldn't I didn't let her I wouldn't like grab them or

07:47:33.620 try to like I would be like I'm not abusing her the entire time like me telling him that I didn't

07:47:40.640 feel like it was a good time for his family to come visit um but if he has cancer you let his

07:47:47.040 family visit I don't really care you know like yeah there are certain situations yes you're

07:47:52.300 stressed yes it's your home but if the man just got diagnosed with cancer and he wants his mother

07:47:56.980 and his sister there i think you can handle that if you again if you were 22 maybe you don't have

07:48:04.840 those skills yet but i feel like at your age if if your husband gets diagnosed with cancer and he

07:48:08.760 wants his family there are so many other things also yeah maybe everything like it's one in the

07:48:14.800 morning i have to drive home after this it's nine hours like chill out just chill out stop you got

07:48:20.920 i'm sorry that you're not getting any attention no i'm just saying it's one and i was told to

07:48:25.080 be over like 11 30 12. no hold on would you stop whinging this is actually you know you

07:48:32.120 you want to go on the crusade for do you think a woman should be president 1.00

07:48:37.880 i think a woman could be a president i don't think okay then suck it up then so anyways 1.00

07:48:42.200 back to this story you're a strong independent woman you can do it just be a trooper we're

07:48:45.720 we're i'm getting through everyone's notes we're we're at the tail end here just be a trooper

07:48:50.920 Um, okay. But in any case, so you, you are in the, there's a, were the charges dropped? Yeah. You said you were in jail. They had, you did bite him. You bit a cancer patient. Wow. The optics of that are not good.

07:49:05.240 That's kind of insane.

07:49:07.400 A little bit.

07:49:08.480 I mean, what would you do if somebody was behind you, restraining you and not letting you go?

07:49:13.480 It depends on why they were restraining you or scared.

07:49:15.980 so i might bite them so there's been times where um you know i i've had i've been under stress we

07:49:24.420 have five kids in the house i'm having a meltdown because i'm hormonal and andrew literally grabs

07:49:30.640 my shoulders and goes you need a nap and walks me into the bedroom and closes the door that

07:49:35.320 sounds like a more of a loving gesture yeah yeah but it did so i'll just ask you straight up

07:49:41.900 were you being a little unhinged were you acting a little bit off the cuff and and this man was

07:49:49.140 thinking okay this is out of control and somebody's got to get it back under control because

07:49:53.240 there's my child's involved my mom if you say no if you're like no I was completely in control I

07:50:02.060 was calm and handling it I was calm when I picked her up and I said you're not supposed to be

07:50:07.380 watching shows and i calmly brought her back to my room she i mean three-year-olds throw good fits 0.98

07:50:13.960 sure they do but i'm saying prior to what happened with him you said he needed to come in and like

07:50:20.240 push you out of the way to get her now if he came into the room and said when he came in and he tried

07:50:25.720 to say that i was abusing my daughter because she was still crying it had been like five to ten

07:50:31.880 minutes. Okay. She was thrown. So you thought that since he said you were abusing her, that

07:50:37.680 means that we can get physical or was it like he said, I don't think I should have got physical

07:50:45.740 in the first place. I'm not the one who made it physical. He was the one who made it. But were

07:50:49.260 you blocking him trying to get to his child? Right. Because he's the dad too. So if he comes,

07:50:57.220 this is why we need to submit to our husbands okay so he comes in he's like he maybe you thought

07:51:02.300 he also asked me to marry him and then proceeded to never follow through with that um that i don't

07:51:08.980 know what that has to do with anything so you were blocking him from his kid after making his night

07:51:12.920 with cancer with his family about an ipad and a pot and he didn't abuse you he restrained you

07:51:18.260 which was very kind in that situation and it is not your fault well i don't even know i'm trying

07:51:24.000 to be fair to her and figure it out but i'm not at what point did when he had to when he shoved

07:51:30.760 you out of the way was that because he was like let me get her out of here and even if he said

07:51:35.800 something that offended you he said i think you're being abusive and you got very upset and offended

07:51:39.880 by that did he say i'm gonna take her out of here and you were like no and that's why he shoved you

07:51:45.900 out of the way he yeah yeah i didn't cut you off what do you want to say well i was just gonna ask

07:51:54.100 could you visually show us the nature of the shove into the air was it was it a one hand shove a two

07:52:02.060 hand shove was it a both hands he yeah in the shoulder and the chest and the like threw me 0.97

07:52:08.140 kind of i mean it didn't like pick me up off the ground but all right um all right he'd also

07:52:14.120 he had a pattern of

07:52:17.400 deciding he wasn't happy with me

07:52:19.980 for one reason or another and so

07:52:22.020 like the weekend prior to that

07:52:23.860 I don't even remember

07:52:25.960 what happened but he completely

07:52:28.160 ignored me all day Sunday

07:52:29.960 and then Monday was my birthday

07:52:31.940 and he comes and

07:52:33.960 just starts love bombing me and

07:52:35.960 just like there's a

07:52:38.020 cycle of abuse there.

07:52:40.660 Relationships

07:52:41.260 there's always history

07:52:43.720 And they did this

07:52:45.420 There's a lot of stuff that goes on

07:52:47.340 Well okay let me blast through the rest of the notes here

07:52:50.720 I guess what I wanted to know

07:52:51.640 I wanted to make sure that other women know 0.99

07:52:53.640 That in California

07:52:54.980 If you call 911 for domestic violence

07:52:57.720 They have to arrest somebody

07:52:59.240 Well if you bite a guy though

07:53:03.060 I acted in self defense

07:53:05.140 Because he was

07:53:07.380 Because he shoved you

07:53:08.320 Because he was restraining her

07:53:10.460 When you say you were acting in self defense

07:53:13.700 so he was restraining you he was restraining me from behind but was there an escalation of the

07:53:20.300 assault beyond restraining you when i was trying to go back to my room i was holding our daughter

07:53:25.720 and i tried to like push my way through and he's shoving me and he hit our daughter's head on the

07:53:31.420 wall like i didn't want him having her at that point well that sounds very dysfunctional no it

07:53:36.020 was totally dysfunctional very dysfunctional and i'm not happy with that being the way it ended

07:53:40.700 but i'm glad that the relationship is over because but okay um all right well uh going to

07:53:47.520 you mariana a topic you feel strongly about is that the patriarchy has hurt the energy of the

07:53:51.720 divine masculine so i wish we got into this sooner but yeah has hurt the energy of the divine

07:53:56.780 masculine so much so that men don't find pleasure in pleasing a woman when you say pleasing a woman

07:54:02.680 are you not sexually just like and i want to say that i don't it's i after hearing rachel talk i'm

07:54:09.180 very much understanding that my idea of the patriarchy is not what I thought it was but I do

07:54:15.220 believe that I believe that today a lot of men have not done and I think this goes for everybody

07:54:23.800 I think the problem is my something I feel strongly about is that everybody is so out of touch

07:54:28.020 with their selves and so in touch with things like like the gender and asking questions that

07:54:34.640 shouldn't matter and everyone's so outside of themselves and I think like what I meant by

07:54:41.200 men don't want to please women anymore I feel like in today's society it feels like men want to

07:54:47.500 be the simps and they want to be like well what am I going to get from a woman what do I 0.99

07:54:53.220 what is the relationship giving me but I think that's a great question and I asked Brianna that

07:55:00.660 question yesterday because she sat there and told us all the things men need to do better

07:55:05.660 what men's duties are what men's responsibilities are and I said okay fair what are women's

07:55:11.220 responsibilities what are women's duties and she was like what do you mean same thing that 1.00

07:55:16.400 Tommy Lahren said when Andrew asked her this question Tommy Lahren literally said to Andrew

07:55:20.560 you get to have the pleasure of watching me have the stuff you give me duh like that was her genius

07:55:27.180 answer to the question of what do men get from relationships we all are very comfortable telling

07:55:32.360 men what they need to do they're expected to provide and protect and be masculine and you

07:55:38.560 know we have this whole list of what men are supposed to do and then we say okay what are

07:55:41.940 women's duties to men and I've not to this day had a woman tell me what well I feel like I feel like

07:55:49.160 the whole idea that roles are only for certain genders I think that that is um I think that

07:55:59.780 that's an old thought I think that an unconventional thought of mine is that there are archetypes in

07:56:05.220 all relationships and sometimes the woman is taking on what society would call the man's role 1.00

07:56:10.760 and it has to come down to the conversation and what the dynamic should be between them and not

07:56:17.840 oh, well, society tells me that this man should do this, this, and that.

07:56:21.100 I think that everybody deciding what their relationship is based on what society tells them is a problem.

07:56:29.000 I don't think you should get into a relationship based on what society is telling you.

07:56:32.260 I think that if you want somebody to literally worship you and give you all the money in the world,

07:56:38.280 and there's a guy that wants to do that, cool, but that should not be the standard.

07:56:43.360 and at the same time i don't think that men should be caught so do you just to make it more concise

07:56:50.380 do you think there should be a standard or is it just hey everybody just do whatever works for you

07:56:55.280 i think it should be whatever works between the two parties what about when there's kids

07:57:00.560 i that's where the whole idea of having um archetypal roles should not be deduced to gender

07:57:09.140 both men and women have a duty to their children it has nothing to do with sure but you're a mom

07:57:15.160 right yes so only you could carry the baby only you could nurse the baby and especially for that

07:57:22.100 first two years it's mostly mom doing everything it's but it's by biological necessity so if you're

07:57:29.240 breastfeeding that's kind of a full-time job you're doing that all day and all night um right 1.00

07:57:34.320 And if you have little kids and you're a mom and you're full-time breastfeeding and raising little infants and toddlers, you need someone to do the providing and the protecting because you don't have the time to do it yourself.

07:57:48.360 And I believe that we have completely gone away from that whole idea that you do need a protector and a provider when you're bringing kids into this world if you're having kids with a baby.

07:57:58.680 But I don't think that the role should only be divided based on gender.

07:58:05.420 Like, a father can.

07:58:07.140 I, for one, was not breastfeeding my child because he wouldn't latch on.

07:58:11.540 Formula fed.

07:58:12.100 and my son's dad at the time would take the time to wake up and feed the baby and i think that a

07:58:19.880 lot of men are like well that's the woman's job i do think i do think it's the woman's job and

07:58:25.020 this is the reason why um even if you can't nurse for whatever reason and there's a lot of women 1.00

07:58:30.380 i hear this so often i know there are some outlying cases where truly the baby won't latch

07:58:35.960 but most of the time it's that women will give it like a few days and then they're done or they want 1.00

07:58:41.680 to go back to work or it's too frustrating because actual breastfeeding, especially with 0.99

07:58:45.980 the first baby, it can take weeks to really get breastfeeding established and you need help.

07:58:51.420 And it's, you're literally having a baby on there every 20 to 30 minutes. And they're not

07:58:56.580 expecting that because we don't tell women to expect that anymore. So they give up really soon. 1.00

07:59:01.160 Or they just, they just feel, or they just do that no more. And they said, he won't latch on,

07:59:06.100 just stick to formula milk. You know, I didn't know, I did not have that advice, but nevertheless,

07:59:11.280 especially if you have a bunch like I did if you have five you have six you have seven

07:59:15.200 you just have to have the traditional gender roles and they were the people don't seem to wonder

07:59:20.920 why were things that way for all of history until we had technology that allowed women to start 1.00

07:59:27.000 pretending that they're doing man things so like all of us who I don't pretend I do man things

07:59:32.760 I do think that's I do think that's super cool but you can do that because of technology if it

07:59:39.800 were 200 years ago might be a little tougher for you to be like a diesel mechanic or something if

07:59:45.120 you didn't have like hydraulics and you didn't have well we didn't have a lot of rights back

07:59:48.620 then too right well well actually i don't know when did we when did we start like when did we

07:59:52.580 become equal with men i don't know 1919 well that's what no no that's just when suffrage was

07:59:58.500 passed there was never any sort of law saying women can't do traditionally male jobs i don't 0.64

08:00:03.380 even know but because we have this fallacy of looking back at the past through presentism and

08:00:08.980 thinking it must be the same if you don't have birth control if you don't have electricity if

08:00:15.300 you don't have wi-fi if you live in a post or pre-industrial age you as a tiny little lady

08:00:21.660 you're not going to be like blacksmithing you know what I mean you're not going to be logging

08:00:25.380 you're not going to be logging you're not going to be like doing all these traditionally now you

08:00:30.040 would be working hard because you're probably on a farmstead you're probably working day in and day

08:00:34.340 out with your husband and your children you're milking goats and cows and you're bailing hay and

08:00:38.700 doing some pretty heavy duty stuff it's not that women didn't work it's just that society didn't 1.00

08:00:43.600 function in a way that people leave in the morning and go to work and then they come home at night

08:00:46.840 that's just not how it was so the reason that we have this equality now is literally only because

08:00:53.540 technology allows it if the technology ever goes away feminism is done it's over think about that 1.00

08:00:58.500 but yeah uh here finishing off with your notes um so okay the patriarchy hurt the energy of the

08:01:03.980 divine masculine not sure what divine masculine is but uh you say women today are understanding

08:01:09.320 their value and power after generations of objectification and sexual exploitation

08:01:14.420 so do you think marriage do you think marriage like 100 200 300 400 do you think marriage as

08:01:22.160 an institution was the sexual exploitation of women no i don't think that i think child

08:01:29.240 marriage was the sexual exploitation that's not what we're talking about why are you bringing it

08:01:33.440 there um but uh okay that was a very real thing that women like girls did face like being you

08:01:41.680 mean at like 16 like getting married saying like young young women being like groomed and and this

08:01:49.040 is not what's happening i don't believe that's what's happening now but that did come that is

08:01:53.260 part of our history okay but what do you mean when you say that so like it was common for girls to 1.00

08:01:59.300 be married off at like 16 or yeah or even younger yeah in western culture uh not as often it did

08:02:07.100 it did happen sometimes but like in christendom it was usually 15 16 17 something like that but

08:02:12.760 number one people grew up a lot faster we didn't have this idea that you weren't an adult until

08:02:17.680 you were 18 the lifespan was also a lot lower back then yes and it was like once you started

08:02:22.540 menstruating you're kind of considered a woman and at that point it makes some it made sense

08:02:28.620 under the conditions of the time you know so i don't again a lot of you have been told that all

08:02:36.060 of history was just women's enslavement and women's oppression when if you actually go back

08:02:40.600 and read the writings of women themselves they say that was not the case they the women susan b

08:02:46.080 anthony elizabeth katie stanton the pioneers of feminism said women actually have it so good 1.00

08:02:51.020 they're not interested i just posted to my twitter yesterday a quote from elizabeth katie

08:02:55.080 Stanton saying, it's actually the women who don't want feminism. If it were ever up to women, we 0.99

08:02:59.860 would never have the vote. They don't care about it. They already have everything they want. They

08:03:04.240 can go to school. They can work a job. They can own land. They can have their own money if they

08:03:09.760 want. States like New York had all kinds of protective laws for women entering into marriage 1.00

08:03:14.440 that the man couldn't take their money or sell their property without their express consent.

08:03:19.160 And the judge even had to make sure it was not compelled in any way. They had privileges and

08:03:23.800 protections that they didn't want revoked but we've had 100 years of feminist propaganda telling 1.00

08:03:28.380 you guys that all of history before 1920 was woman slave man bad man boot on neck and it's

08:03:37.260 actually just not true so that's why i wrote the book was just to correct the historical record

08:03:41.700 in that sense in that um because i didn't know that i did know what i thought i knew yeah most

08:03:48.380 people don't and I think that my point here is that what I see today in society is women are 0.83

08:03:53.920 in a sense like on the other side of things and are hardcore feminists because it's this 1.00

08:03:59.080 idea that in order for change to happen it needs to be that that radical so we're going to go all

08:04:05.480 the way on the other side of the spectrum we believe that we were completely oppressed

08:04:08.540 so we move to the other side of the spectrum to believe that we should be dominant and I think

08:04:13.800 that's because they're like finding their power without finding their grounding I do need to move

08:04:17.600 things on you're raising your hands i need to go i've been here i have to drive home and i have

08:04:21.600 other obligations tomorrow you said hold on uh you you said that you were taking work off i have

08:04:27.140 two jobs i took off my morning job i still have to be back home at work by 3 30 tomorrow okay and

08:04:32.860 i assumed we would be done by 11 or 12 i don't know why you would assume that we are pretty clear

08:04:36.540 in our communications to you that it goes this long and it might i never thought it would go to

08:04:41.280 1.30 in the morning.

08:04:42.100 We say seven to eight hours.

08:04:43.420 We're currently at the, or, and it may go longer.

08:04:46.360 Okay?

08:04:47.880 Yeah.

08:04:49.180 So, let me, I'm trying to get through it.

08:04:52.460 Trying to get through it.

08:04:53.020 How much longer do you think this is going to take?

08:04:55.040 It's hard to say.

08:04:56.960 I'm nearly done with the notes.

08:04:58.660 I have one thing left on the questionnaire.

08:05:00.640 There's the rapid fire questions, then we're out of here.

08:05:02.840 Can I leave, or no?

08:05:05.600 Can I leave?

08:05:06.240 I mean, I can't, like, I'm not kidnapping you.

08:05:09.880 i'm not holding you hostage but uh they're you signed a contract contract says that's true well

08:05:19.760 she did say she doesn't like accountability okay well okay let me just blast through this

08:05:24.240 like i don't understand it's not that big of a deal um okay let me uh rena uh you men should

08:05:32.940 provide protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to die protecting you taking

08:05:37.640 the bullet absolutely uh you will keep your last name or hyphen in marriage yeah uh what about your

08:05:46.300 kids i mean i would assume that they would have the same last name that we both do i would just

08:05:51.460 take his last name what i would in marriage i would take his last name like i would on the

08:05:58.660 questionnaire you agreed that you will keep your last name or hyphen in marriage is that incorrect

08:06:03.460 Oh, or hyphen.

08:06:05.160 Isn't that...

08:06:05.760 What?

08:06:06.080 Can't you, like...

08:06:06.840 Oh, my God.

08:06:07.540 You can't have, like, two of them?

08:06:08.840 You keep your maiden name and you add his name to it.

08:06:11.560 You circled five.

08:06:12.500 The statement is, I will keep my last name or hyphenate in marriage.

08:06:16.280 Do you agree with that statement?

08:06:18.020 Oh, no.

08:06:19.420 Okay.

08:06:20.040 My bad.

08:06:21.600 Maya Morris, men should provide protect. 0.99

08:06:23.900 You will keep, if you even do get married, you will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage.

08:06:29.900 Okay.

08:06:30.940 Interesting.

08:06:32.320 Although you're not really traditional, so I don't find that super strange.

08:06:37.540 Raven, men should pay on first dates. 1.00

08:06:39.440 Men should provide protect. 0.61

08:06:40.980 Men should be chivalrous.

08:06:42.200 Husband should be willing to die protecting you.

08:06:44.020 All statements you agree with.

08:06:45.620 However, you will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage.

08:06:49.580 I mean, it won't matter.

08:06:49.960 Do you think that's fair?

08:06:50.900 It'll be to a woman, so it won't matter. 0.99

08:06:53.320 I mean, it won't be about men, so. 0.98

08:06:56.540 Okay, you are a lesbian. 1.00

08:06:57.760 Disregard them. 0.98

08:06:58.340 Why does she think men should protect her, though? 0.98

08:07:01.380 I honestly, though, like regardless of how I feel about men protecting me, I was I was answering the statements.

08:07:08.820 Well, how about this? Let me let me reframe. Do you think men in heterosexual relationships, not yours, but men in heterosexual relationships, should they do all those things?

08:07:18.460 Yes. And do you think it's OK in that circumstance if a man is dating a woman? Is it OK for her to keep her last name?

08:07:25.280 Yes. Great. So men get nothing. Grace, men should pay on first dates. 0.99

08:07:29.940 men should provide protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to die

08:07:33.180 protecting you you will keep your last name or hyphenated marriage i changed my last name when

08:07:39.360 i married my ex-husband i didn't want to do it closer to the mic please sorry i changed my last

08:07:44.580 name when i had married my ex-husband i didn't want to do it again my daughter because her dad

08:07:49.620 and i were not married when she was born she has both of our last names not hyphenated so

08:07:56.600 okay i don't believe okay well really quick um frankly if you're not willing to do that

08:08:03.700 you don't deserve any of the preceding things that you think men should do 0.97

08:08:07.460 you don't deserve it why because like let's get to you ah yes you too mariana men should pay on 1.00

08:08:16.080 first dates men should provide protect husband should be willing to die protecting you you will 0.99

08:08:20.500 keep your last name or hyphenate marriage yes hyphenate or keep your last name keep my oh

08:08:24.840 hyphenated but i would i would does he have to hyphenate he can do whatever he wants okay but

08:08:32.200 you're gonna hyphenate what about the kids do they get the hyphenate or do they get

08:08:35.960 your uh his last name they would get his last name that's somewhat more fair but you won't

08:08:41.940 change your last name i find that interesting no man should be willing to die protecting you

08:08:45.960 uh that's for certain uh let's see well i think that if you're a feminist you should have to fill 1.00

08:08:53.360 out a form saying that you waive any rights to uh call the police 9-1-1 have firefighters come

08:09:00.800 unless they are women you can have your own you can start your own feminist police force your own 1.00

08:09:06.100 feminist firefighting club you can hire your own female bodyguards but you don't get to be protected 1.00

08:09:12.960 by the men and you don't get to and in fact let's give them like wyoming we'll just rope it off and 0.98

08:09:19.620 they can build their own infrastructure they can keep the power running by themselves they can have

08:09:24.220 their separatist community without any of the men and without any of the benefits of living with men

08:09:28.760 that's what i think's fair i mean i i just want to understand the name change because my whole

08:09:34.460 my whole reason for that is because i don't want to get married with the government that's my own 0.54

08:09:40.000 issue my boyfriend and i don't want the government like we don't want to sign a certificate with

08:09:45.120 the courthouse that says we are this and when you do that you have to change your last name and that

08:09:50.320 is my you don't you actually don't have to wait really no you don't have to change your name i

08:09:55.940 oh i completely thought that you have to change your name but i listen i do understand not wanting

08:10:03.300 the government involved actually i still i still think the government should not be involved i

08:10:08.240 think that the church should govern it and maybe if you're like pagan or you're a witch or something 0.89

08:10:12.640 you'll have some kind of like mother earth festival ceremony i don't know but um i don't

08:10:18.440 know why you get married honestly if you're not like religious but but i mean uh even if you don't

08:10:23.580 get a legal name change you could still hold yourself out as miss mariana smith right i mean

08:10:29.940 i you wouldn't do that yeah oh no i would do that if it had nothing to do with the legality

08:10:35.940 your stuff i would do that because i that's that's like how you determine family in my in my opinion

08:10:42.700 you like how we even have the only reason we even have last names is to determine families from

08:10:48.420 separate families that's the only reason we have it is to know that this person these people came

08:10:52.700 from i think it's funny when women want to keep their last name because it's actually their dad's

08:10:56.440 last name and if it's not their dad's last name it's their grandpa's last name it's like you still

08:11:00.260 have a man's name uh for i guess those of you here those of you who said men should pay on first

08:11:04.920 dates why uh raven why should men pay on first dates because men should be paying 0.80

08:11:15.460 brilliant holy fuck good job yikes men should be paying because men should be paying because

08:11:22.580 men should be paying yes why i mean i do fendom does it really a surprise to you 0.99

08:11:28.620 that you can't formulate a coherent thought well you're actually you're you're also asking me

08:11:36.840 as someone who doesn't date men if men should pay on a first date yes why should men pay on first

08:11:42.980 dates i think they should pay on the first date i recently went on three dates so the guy he paid

08:11:49.220 the first two dates i paid the third date great you didn't answer my question whatsoever he was

08:11:55.680 the one who asked me out okay so the question was why should men pay on first dates and you

08:12:02.300 said that i just went on the date and the guy paid for the date but that doesn't answer the

08:12:07.020 question as to why the man should pay for the date so is it is your answer though because he

08:12:11.120 asked you out yes okay is there any other reason i mean men typically make more than money make

08:12:20.380 more money than women that's no not even necessarily well uh there's not a wage gap

08:12:26.340 if that's what you're alluding to do you think there's a gender wage gap well i mean depending

08:12:35.100 on which um jobs each person has i think he means like overall no yeah okay um so men

08:12:46.560 make more money, I guess. Therefore, they should pay. So in a situation where a man approached

08:12:51.200 a woman, asked her on a date, but she made $500,000 a year. He made $50,000 a year. Should

08:12:57.040 the woman pay? I mean, maybe not all the time, but yeah. First date. First date. I think 1.00

08:13:07.140 whoever asked the person out for the date. Have you ever asked a guy out on a date? First

08:13:10.960 date? Not that I remember. I did ask on a third date. Well, but I asked about first date. So

08:13:22.940 your position is men should, whoever asks should pay, but you're 44 years old. And I'm not saying 0.53

08:13:29.380 that as a tack, but in your 44 years, you've never asked a man out on a date. If men held

08:13:36.920 the position you held uh they would be a 44 year old virgin if we put you with your same attitude 1.00

08:13:46.780 into a man's body you would be a 44 year old virgin i technically asked my boyfriend on the 0.57

08:13:51.700 first date so i wasn't talking about you but but some people do i mean but it's interesting to me

08:13:57.780 the whoever i should pay would you let a woman pay on a first date with you yeah it's good if a 1.00

08:14:04.100 woman since i think but but am i perfectly prepared if i'm per am i perfectly prepared

08:14:12.280 to pay for the date of course and it's typically what i do but yeah i i wouldn't like do some

08:14:18.300 objection to it i guess actually you know what i probably wouldn't it depends on the circumstance

08:14:22.500 but i don't see how that really pertains i think that men shouldn't pay for dates at all with women

08:14:29.700 who refuse to be submissive i think if you're not going to if you want the man to lead that

08:14:36.320 implies and infers that you must submit if you're not going to do that then don't expect anything

08:14:44.000 amen what do you mean by submit so women will always say like the 1.00

08:14:49.400 bimbo that i debated yesterday kept saying men need to be better leaders they need to do a better

08:14:55.880 job of leading they need to lead more but she was the exact type of woman that if a man was trying 0.81

08:15:00.960 to lead if she was in a relationship and the guy said this is what we're going to do with the money

08:15:05.600 and we're going to buy a house and it's going to be here she would go I don't like that I think we

08:15:10.940 need to do it this way and why do we have to do what you want and why can't we do what I want and

08:15:14.560 so it's like they'll say they want a leader but they'll refuse to follow so you it's and it just

08:15:21.100 first date and then they don't know why every relationship they have is just it's like so i

08:15:26.640 think if you want men to pay for everything if you want them to protect you and provide for you

08:15:30.920 and lead you then you got to be a submissive woman and you have to first date though like 0.98

08:15:34.980 how would you be i'm just trying to like figure out what would be like a like how would the guy

08:15:38.560 know how would you know i've always like 50 50 when i'm especially first getting to know somebody

08:15:44.860 because it's just like there's expectations i feel like you know it's kind of weird it's like well

08:15:49.920 if I buy your dinner will you let me hit you know kind of oh and I don't ever want to feel like that

08:15:55.740 so I've just always kind of like well yes it's wrong for men to have an expectation that just 0.70

08:15:59.500 because you've taken a woman to on a dinner date that that he's owed sex that's weird it's just

08:16:04.360 that's weird I just don't ever want to run into it and I've always done 50 50 and then my boyfriend

08:16:08.620 me and me now we kind of like trade off it doesn't really matter okay well I mean uh really quick

08:16:12.640 going back going back to you though um it's it is interesting on the who pays you've whoever I

08:16:19.160 should pay, but you've never asked a man out. That's very convenient position for women to have. 1.00

08:16:23.600 I might have years and years ago. I don't remember specifically. Um, I also prefer men that are in

08:16:30.540 their masculine energy and I feel like that is something that they would want to do. Well,

08:16:35.600 wouldn't a woman who's in her feminine energy want to take the man's last name in marriage? 1.00

08:16:42.180 I think I was thinking more of the last relationship that I was in and, you know,

08:16:47.760 I'm not completely opposed to it in the future just so you're I really like you're going to

08:16:54.360 punish your future husband because you were in a bad relationship previously if you bring your 1.00

08:16:59.580 past to the current there won't be a future um I also when I was in bars when I was to take my

08:17:11.820 mom's last name um and my grandfather was a really amazing person and you know i do feel like

08:17:18.580 the history of my name means something to me so it's not that i wouldn't ever consider it but

08:17:26.620 you know right now well my money my money means something to me and why should i

08:17:34.560 provide for a wife when the money means something to me i don't want to give her that

08:17:40.740 that paper is a representation of my labor and my toil and my struggle yeah yeah

08:17:50.480 it means something to me the money that i have is that the only thing you think a woman can give a 1.00

08:17:56.360 man though is when they get married oh she can give a lot more than the last name okay but that 1.00

08:18:01.680 from it are you traditional do you consider yourself you're traditional do you want a

08:18:07.060 traditional dynamic in your past relationship, your past marriage, uh, you were the stay at home

08:18:11.960 wife. The man was the primary breadwinner. I think, uh, tradition ought to beget tradition.

08:18:19.400 So if you want a traditional man, you should be traditional. And under the purview of traditional 0.98

08:18:24.880 gender roles and whatever, it is traditional. It is typical that the wife takes the husband's 1.00

08:18:30.240 last name. That is traditional. And I did do that. Right. But I'm just, I'm not saying I

08:18:36.940 100% yes or no I'm saying sure yeah but why should men pay for first dates 0.85

08:18:42.280 I want you want I want men to pay for the first date because I'm a little materialistic I like

08:18:51.000 to be pursued in that sense I want to see like oh they want to riz me oh they want to take me

08:18:55.940 on this first date they want to you know give me an experience that I don't have to financially

08:19:01.000 be indebted to they want to do that for me because in this scenario well i i am good single i haven't

08:19:09.080 pursued um i haven't directly like pursued people until a man has taken initiative um so and that's

08:19:18.380 just like my preference i enjoy that i like being rizzed up i like i like the money i like it's i

08:19:23.260 think it's fun like hey you're going out he's paying for it that gives me a really excited

08:19:29.680 um thing for the relationship but okay well could it be really exciting for the man that this chick

08:19:34.900 is like going against social conventions to be such a simp to break the mold that she she's so 1.00

08:19:43.480 into him that she'll pay she'll go against the mold i mean i think that would actually communicate 0.76

08:19:48.780 a lot more than sort of going along with the status quo of men paying for the first dates but

08:19:53.020 i will move it all along for the sake of time i guess one question related to this is if men

08:19:58.680 should do all these things men should pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be

08:20:02.100 chivalrous husband should be willing to die man should be willing to die protecting you what

08:20:09.760 should and i think rachel might have asked this what should women do i mean i would take a bullet 1.00

08:20:17.000 for him as well it's i mean i expect it from him but i would give it right back to him i'll come

08:20:22.760 back to that but let me get answers from other people provide provide like if they have kids

08:20:26.880 provide for the kids take care of the kids if that's what they're doing kids what are you talking

08:20:31.420 about like for women oh what should women do what should women do yeah they should help take care of 1.00

08:20:37.160 him if they're expecting him to be the breadwinner then they should be the one that's taking care of

08:20:40.640 the house doing stuff like that unless they're both working and they both have yeah yeah unless

08:20:44.080 they both have separate finances and they're like supporting themselves that's a different story

08:20:47.260 but if she's expecting him to take care of her financially she should be doing something like

08:20:51.220 housework to take care of them um submit choose an alpha male to submit to not a beta male so you

08:20:58.440 don't take it out on other men and then um nurture you know i liked your question where it was like

08:21:04.620 how do you do that in the beginning um like if a man were to do that i would show nurturing and

08:21:09.640 appreciation and also show him how i like to cook for him or show other skills that so we can kind

08:21:15.560 of see a window into okay this is a little bit of what it would be like for this person and i know

08:21:20.440 that's not for everybody but in a traditionally submissive standpoint I think that that's who

08:21:26.400 should be paid for on a date because you know that they have the character intention and belief system

08:21:32.600 to follow through with reciprocating that care love and energy and that means you don't just 0.97

08:21:38.420 feel like your wallet's being drained like a freaking psychotic loser you actually feel like 0.81

08:21:42.400 you're investing in a woman that is investing her time love care and energy into you so that's what 0.98

08:21:48.960 makes it worth it but if it's a feminist i mean have her pay that's what she wants so yep uh okay 1.00

08:21:55.360 uh rena your notes you wanted to discuss maybe would be finding someone not sensitive to words

08:22:01.300 like retarded dude yeah i didn't realize it was such a thing and then uh i also do social media 0.77

08:22:07.860 i do youtube and i do instagram and stuff just like recording videos of me working on my car

08:22:11.560 and somebody oh man somebody commented something like oh i think i was saying something about like

08:22:18.240 OnlyFans girls I was like oh you know it sucks that uh some of us out here you know work our

08:22:23.480 asses off for something that you'd make in three days you know I just think you know I just it just

08:22:29.380 kind of sucks I was just making a joke about it and someone said something and I said oh that's 0.96

08:22:34.220 retarded and oh they just freaked out on me and I was like holy shit we should liberate the r word 0.99

08:22:40.740 I feel like it's actually outside of California I think it's okay to say retarded I think as long 1.00

08:22:45.420 as you're not going up to someone down it is okay yeah well that's a whole different story yeah i

08:22:50.040 don't think anybody was ever doing that it's like dude that's retarded it's like how in the 80s we 0.97

08:22:54.280 say dude that's gay and it didn't mean any we weren't we weren't like dissing on gay people 0.96

08:23:00.080 even we were just i have gay friends yeah all right we have uh bender bender pure delusion 0.99

08:23:05.620 number one none of that sounds like hospice number two the dv thing sounds a little sus the

08:23:10.080 girl is cooked uh thank you for your soup chat i don't know if anyone has a response there 10

08:23:15.600 display 100 read uh 200 tts if you guys want to get one in here at the tail end no we're not going

08:23:21.340 to do the roast session uh i think we're i think i have one more person's notes hold on let me just

08:23:28.300 you were asking me something before i think i maybe dm'd you a question uh i don't he asked

08:23:36.060 you to marry him i did i did ask you to marry marry me um let's see uh okay we did the retarded 0.96

08:23:43.420 thing wait did you say you were gonna take the last name or no i would take the last name lexi

08:23:49.060 atlas yeah so she's not locked in uh would you date somebody just going off of her note would

08:23:56.680 you date somebody who used the word retard yes i would not date like a white guy that says the n

08:24:01.560 word though oh why not with an a or an r no no you would not date a woman what about a woman who said 0.92

08:24:10.600 the what if she's like the best yo no and she just called you a retard no you wouldn't date 0.88

08:24:19.780 like she's so hot and she's really good at women things uh never mind what if she was using it in 1.00

08:24:27.120 one of her witchcraft spells it was like hocus pocus retardists no okay okay uh olivia you want 0.97

08:24:36.840 to dismantle feminism you you are an ex brainwashed only fans girl you you say making a sandwich isn't 0.97

08:24:43.320 oppressive um let's see uh yeah i guess you want to dismantle feminism and making a sandwich isn't 1.00

08:24:54.640 impressive do you want to kind of um elaborate i guess yeah so the ex only fans thing um

08:25:02.720 and this is not me blaming but i had an ex of seven years and i was trying to submit to a beta

08:25:12.640 mail my poor choice and he'd be like just post pictures of your feet like if it was this easy

08:25:18.960 for me i do it it's so easy for women so that was the only fans passed um just don't date beta men

08:25:26.140 and then after that um feminism has completely destroyed everything ever since the seneca falls 1.00

08:25:32.440 convention it's been completely downhill since every single wave and then shulamith firestone

08:25:37.960 is just like the most psychotic person so actually every single thing about feminism 0.99

08:25:43.100 has been built on hating men if you do your homework you find out rachel not so crazy 0.95

08:25:49.800 so i just it also it also like pulling women out of the home with family wait what feminism 0.99

08:25:57.020 is she saying oh you mean into the workplace yeah yeah for sure that was like it created

08:26:03.100 two people but that was double the tax burden that was to support the debt-based economy with

08:26:09.680 the uh federal reserve act and the compulsory education system to create the department of

08:26:14.840 education which is another big fat tax everybody gets to pay through their property taxes yeah

08:26:19.560 there was a whole bunch of reasons yeah for it uh anything else on that olivia um i understand

08:26:26.540 on the forefront how it feels power how it feels powerful and positive to hear equality and

08:26:33.200 feminism but just remember that like being an equal doesn't always mean that you're not equal 0.99

08:26:39.560 in value. Women are wonderful. They're amazing. They're needed. And I think if we can just

08:26:43.900 recognize the fundamental differences and allow those things to coexist instead of each individual

08:26:49.900 gender trying to be everything or they, them nonsense or whatever, um, I just own it, dude. 1.00

08:26:57.220 Like you are biologically made a certain way and it's okay. Yeah. Don't let the sisterhood shame you

08:27:04.060 for just wanting to be, just being a mom is like a great, great thing to do with your life. You

08:27:09.920 don't have to have some career and prove that you can do everything guys can do. Yeah. And, uh,

08:27:15.200 I do think there's like, uh, men and women have inherent equal value, equal moral value. And I

08:27:22.200 think the Christian perspective is there's, it's a complimentarian perspective. Men and women

08:27:27.360 complement each other is that yes it's a little bit more of the protestant like newer idea of it

08:27:33.200 um in the orthodox view marriage is a sacrament in which it's it's a salvific path where you are

08:27:39.380 learning to die to your own will and submit your own will to another person and put put other

08:27:44.460 people before you because if you can learn to do that then you can submit fully to god and to christ

08:27:49.200 and and be saved through humility and repentance so uh the biggest problem with feminism that we 1.00

08:27:55.240 never talk about is that it tells women you're perfect the way you are you are a goddess you

08:27:59.780 don't ever need to change everyone else needs to change and there's no reason to be humble and

08:28:04.280 there's no reason to repent and therefore it puts a giant roadblock between you and salvation very

08:28:09.800 healthy and it's okay to change for someone you love it's really not that bad to just say hey

08:28:15.720 this person loves every single thing about me and I could make their lives a little more enjoyable

08:28:20.360 if I worked on this one thing, it's not misogynistic for a man to be honest and say,

08:28:25.240 hey, I love you so much that I want to express to you that it would make me more likely to hold on

08:28:29.860 to you if we could work on this one thing. And that is not mean. They've programmed this knee

08:28:35.700 jerk reaction into women that we're supposed to, anytime a man has a preference, a request,

08:28:41.580 a boundary, that what we are supposed to, our knee jerk reaction should be to rebel against it.

08:28:47.080 and that's why even well-meaning ladies like grace probably do that a lot without realizing it you 1.00

08:28:54.220 know it's just a pattern that's ingrained and it's in the back of everyone's head and you

08:28:58.180 as a modern woman you have to deprogram it it takes effort you have to be like this young lady 1.00

08:29:03.460 here paying attention thinking it through catching yourself where you're doing it and resisting that

08:29:08.920 because it's been built into you since you were a toddler watching superwoman and all the all the 0.99

08:29:14.500 kid cartoons and all the pop stars you grew up idolizing who told you men ain't shit uh don't 0.98

08:29:20.560 ever listen to them uh they're only out to oppress you and you have to prove at every turn that you 0.98

08:29:25.420 don't need them and you don't even want them and you don't need a man in your life

08:29:28.700 reject feminism embrace patriarchy exactly uh with your patriarchy is good for women we're the

08:29:38.660 primary benefactors of patriarchy we get the most benefits very good for women uh okay 0.99

08:29:44.420 you're filipino full filipino half half romanian half filipino sorry half what romanian it's europe 0.89

08:29:51.400 european are you attracted to asian men no i mean like have you dated a asian guy i haven't are you

08:29:59.400 you have not i have not dated an asian man like a wasian guy because you're wasian i guess yeah no 0.90

08:30:05.980 not attracted to them and not that i'm not i just haven't dated one i don't know can i ask you a

08:30:10.400 question. So you're half Asian. Would you rather date a black man or an Asian man?

08:30:17.180 What the fuck is that question? I would date the man that treats me the best and it had 1.00

08:30:24.020 nothing to do with race. That sounds wild to me. Well, I think it's okay to have racial 0.97

08:30:27.220 preferences when it comes to dating. Oh, well, I guess I don't have a racial preference. I've had

08:30:33.340 black men. I've had white men. I've had Mexican men. No Asian men though. But I haven't had the

08:30:40.180 opportunity to have um a relationship with an asian man has a lot of it on you i love when brian

08:30:47.220 goes it's my favorite little observation i don't think an asian man has hit on me like i'll be

08:30:55.340 honest maybe they don't like me they don't maybe i'm the issue i guess i'll reframe the question

08:31:00.300 like this you have dated black men yeah but you have not dated asian men right yeah but not because

08:31:08.260 you wouldn't yeah that has like it's literally just because of the history but yeah it's like

08:31:12.840 the girls who say i would date a five-foot-five guy came up to me if you came up to me and like 1.00

08:31:17.520 did the same riz as like my boyfriend currently did right i would i would i would date him

08:31:23.480 nathan's asian oh really my producer he does not look at him he's i mean is nathan a good guy

08:31:31.860 he's asian irish no oh then no if it's irish i'm so kidding

08:31:36.680 i'm so kidding she's racist 1.00

08:31:40.060 it had nothing to do with asian people was all irish people all right we are getting into our

08:31:45.740 final segment here which is the rapid fire segment of the show pepper your angus because

08:31:51.240 we're gonna blast through this as quick as possible as quick as possible because this poor

08:31:56.120 girl here she's got you know whatever i drove nine hours here and i have to drive nine hours back 1.00

08:32:00.120 okay so i'm gonna blast through this strong woman strong woman we have the uh the two photos pull 1.00

08:32:05.800 those up super quick the the beautification will do that takes 20 seconds okay she's a 10 boom next 1.00

08:32:12.600 what the fuck i feel like i look worse that was so bad okay okay thanks all right uh to the two 0.98

08:32:22.240 tens questions uh do you think you're beautiful yes do you think you're beautiful do you think 0.99

08:32:26.920 you're if you had to like add uh i guess is this an adjective or a descriptor do you think you're

08:32:32.520 below average average or above average looking above average average and i'm trying to remember

08:32:38.620 if i asked this uh the the question was if you had to sign a percentage what percent of women 0.99

08:32:45.400 are less attractive than you oh for you two um i mean if i'm if i'm average then it would be

08:32:52.400 no no but you think you're a 10 right you think you're a 10 so what percentage like are you more

08:32:57.880 attractive than 90 percent of women 80 percent of women what do you think i think i'm more attractive

08:33:02.300 than like 20 okay what about you all women are tens answer the question please just for her 1.00

08:33:10.000 for her sake please please answer the question

08:33:12.980 what's that that's that's my answer what's your answer all women are tens 1.00

08:33:20.060 he has to have a percentage what percentage of women are you more attractive just give him a 1.00

08:33:24.500 number 50 sure random number okay that'd make you mean you're not oh my god i'm giving you a random

08:33:31.520 number because you told me all right well okay um let's see here uh is anybody here waiting until

08:33:37.780 marriage to have sex everybody's here's not a virgin so currently even though oh you mean like

08:33:46.660 I mean, I don't, like, hook up with people, really.

08:33:50.720 I haven't had sex in probably, like, at least a year.

08:33:54.160 At least a year.

08:33:54.980 At least, yeah.

08:33:57.680 At least a year.

08:33:58.500 I'm going on almost two.

08:33:59.980 My fiance and I are waiting together.

08:34:02.000 Aw.

08:34:02.780 Yeah, okay, cool.

08:34:03.800 And the only reason why the streak was broke was because of a very horrible mistake.

08:34:08.980 I would have gone on to probably almost three years by now.

08:34:13.020 Was it, like, a one-time thing, or did you date this guy for a little bit?

08:34:16.660 The streak breaker.

08:34:19.580 The streak breaker.

08:34:22.140 I need to be very clear when I say it was not S-Aid,

08:34:26.060 but I was taken advantage of while drunk by someone who I thought was a friend.

08:34:32.800 Yes, it was consensual, but nothing was okay about what happened.

08:34:38.840 I always warn women about male feminists because that's what they'll do. 1.00

08:34:41.800 They'll try to be your friend and they'll act like they're cool with you

08:34:44.760 and then they wait for a moment of weakness when you're really drunk yes and you've had a bad week

08:34:49.600 or a breakup or something and then they just slide wait so lexi is a one-time thing with that 1.00

08:34:55.080 with the guy yeah otherwise it would be three years it would have been yeah yeah nice i cool

08:35:01.140 good times okay uh moving on uh um i think if men if men should pay for dates if men should provide

08:35:10.920 i already asked this men should be chivalrous what should women do but you guys answered that

08:35:15.260 um do women have any duties that kind of relates we'll skip that uh i think we covered all the 0.96

08:35:22.360 bases guys hold on we're just gonna blast through these um these are the fun questions um

08:35:28.340 i'll skip that okay all right here's the little fun rapid fire questions um name three countries

08:35:35.640 besides the usa mexico canada uh australia can't repeat oh my god i three countries besides the

08:35:49.780 usa uh no right now it's 2 a.m come on come on it is late come on i don't i don't know i i can't

08:35:59.500 think of any just three countries here i'll i'll give you a hint i'll give you a continent europe

08:36:04.300 what are three germany france um and 0.94

08:36:09.060 what's the third one in germany or fuck europe i don't know i have a third one okay what 0.98

08:36:19.600 what country colonized oh wait wait new zealand new zealand oh well okay that's yeah italy korea 0.99

08:36:26.900 japan i'm gonna save two of those uh croatia um england egypt indonesia malaysia and turkey

08:36:37.900 iran north korea and china portugal denmark and spain um did anyone say thailand thailand um

08:36:52.060 it um ethiopia nigeria did anyone say those yeah you want me to skip you rachel

08:37:05.500 brazil chile and guacamole uh how many continents are there

08:37:14.940 five wait yeah yeah five

08:37:17.740 wait wait wait six no six

08:37:22.820 hold on six oh yeah six i'm gonna go seven okay uh yeah i can name them all but i don't have

08:37:34.380 okay name one continent you can't repeat north america antarctica asia south america europe

08:37:43.200 Africa. Australia. That's everybody. Good job. I thought that was going to be harder. For you,

08:37:52.040 what two countries border the USA? Mexico and Canada. How many states in the USA? 50.

08:37:59.880 What is the capital of the USA? Washington, D.C. Okay, how many planets are in our solar system?

08:38:06.760 12 12 12 i think it's 12 12 okay i have no fucking clue throw out a number guess 0.95

08:38:15.280 1 million come on realistic number i'm gonna say 12 because i don't know okay 12 i don't know if

08:38:21.320 you count pluto 7 9 9 it used to be 9 and 8 oh because of pluto yeah uh okay uh what planet do

08:38:32.220 we live on earth good job you got that one see they know stuff yeah uh what is the capital of

08:38:39.580 california sacramento the government building the pentagon is what shape pentagon well done

08:38:47.340 what river runs through egypt isn't that the the nile correct what country is directly north of

08:38:56.840 mexico america well done see these are fun little easy ones uh let's see here

08:39:02.240 what do you call a shape with five sides

08:39:05.360 nobody helped

08:39:18.400 i said it already no who said a no hints don't help wait what i remember saying a shape yeah 0.97

08:39:28.680 she's tricking you the fucking pentagon the pentagon see i was drawing a house with my 0.99

08:39:34.760 finger what do you call a shape with eight sides octagon what country gifted the statue of liberty 0.99

08:39:41.160 to the u.s france oh i have no fucking clue no fucking clue i don't know that one bro 0.97

08:39:47.480 Okay, what gas do humans breathe in to survive? 0.98

08:39:52.660 CO, no, oxygen, and then we turn it into CO2?

08:39:55.940 Is that right?

08:39:56.480 I don't remember.

08:39:56.920 Something like that.

08:39:57.380 We will accept it.

08:39:58.100 What gas do plants absorb from the air?

08:40:01.640 CO2.

08:40:02.560 How many months have 28 days?

08:40:05.580 One.

08:40:06.720 Which month?

08:40:07.500 February.

08:40:08.560 What organ pumps blood through your body?

08:40:11.460 Your heart.

08:40:12.820 What continent is Brazil in?

08:40:15.900 South America.

08:40:17.480 What continent is Egypt in?

08:40:21.880 I'm going to say South America, too.

08:40:23.220 I don't know.

08:40:24.020 You are correct.

08:40:25.120 It is in South America.

08:40:28.500 Yeah.

08:40:29.460 I don't think I'm correct.

08:40:30.280 I don't know.

08:40:32.120 What is it?

08:40:35.200 Egypt?

08:40:36.340 Yeah.

08:40:36.900 It's in Africa. 0.84

08:40:39.700 She didn't read the Bible.

08:40:41.920 Okay.

08:40:42.140 How many dimes make a dollar?

08:40:45.040 Ten.

08:40:45.340 what is the capital of france paris what's the capital of japan um tokyo no what what country

08:40:54.060 is immediately south of the united states mexico took you a second there uh if today is monday

08:41:04.580 what day is it in three days thursday if you have three quarters how much money do you have 0.94

08:41:10.700 75 cents who painted the mona lisa fuck i don't know i forgot his name bro i know it 0.98

08:41:19.420 the leonardo di caprio 0.76

08:41:26.360 you are correct uh what is the name of the famous car company founded by henry ford

08:41:39.080 lexie wow bored good job lexie congratulations wow you got it right if it takes three minutes

08:41:46.920 to boil one egg how many minutes does it take to boil three eggs three minutes

08:41:54.520 you are correct how many nickels make a dollar 0.97

08:42:01.480 25 wait wait niggles five cents whoa whoa please don't be racist 0.79

08:42:09.080 Wait, what? 0.53

08:42:10.340 That's crazy, bro. 0.99

08:42:11.340 This girl's so racist. 1.00

08:42:12.620 Please don't say the N-word on the show.

08:42:13.880 I didn't. 1.00

08:42:14.760 Shut up. 1.00

08:42:15.660 That's crazy. 1.00

08:42:16.300 Did you guys hear that?

08:42:17.060 I heard that. 1.00

08:42:17.820 Fucking racist. 1.00

08:42:18.400 You seen the lady who's talking about the functional microwave cover? 1.00

08:42:22.900 Have you guys seen that?

08:42:23.500 Oh, my God.

08:42:24.080 That was so funny.

08:42:25.140 It kills me every time.

08:42:27.820 How many nickels make a dollar?

08:42:29.720 20.

08:42:30.520 How many nickels make a dollar?

08:42:32.420 Oh, 20?

08:42:35.400 I think.

08:42:36.260 That is correct.

08:42:37.140 What is 12 divided by 3?

08:42:39.940 Four.

08:42:40.500 100 divided by four.

08:42:43.040 25.

08:42:44.620 15 plus 35.

08:42:49.580 Dude, it's late.

08:42:50.900 You got this.

08:42:51.420 You got this.

08:42:51.880 These are easy.

08:42:52.480 35.

08:42:53.500 You got 15, 8, 48.

08:42:56.260 No.

08:42:56.640 You are correct.

08:42:57.680 It is 48.

08:42:58.300 48.

08:42:59.900 90 minus 45.

08:43:03.800 55?

08:43:06.480 Wait.

08:43:07.060 45.

08:43:07.380 That one's 45, yeah.

08:43:08.720 Wait.

08:43:09.080 Wait, 90 minus 45.

08:43:12.040 Yeah, come on. 0.77

08:43:12.760 Do your Fyndom math. 1.00

08:43:14.180 Oh, shut up. 1.00

08:43:16.060 It's money. 0.99

08:43:16.880 I don't know what she's going to do when she's too old to do Fyndom if she has a plan. 0.97

08:43:20.800 We don't have time for that today. 0.99

08:43:22.560 She's going to marry a rich lesbian woman. 1.00

08:43:26.360 90, wait, 90 minus 65? 0.97

08:43:29.340 Wait, what was it?

08:43:29.820 45.

08:43:30.960 90 minus 45.

08:43:32.660 90 minus 45.

08:43:34.240 See, now my brain's going to ours right now.

08:43:39.080 90 hours minus 45 hours.

08:43:41.560 90 minus...

08:43:47.560 I don't know. I'm too tired for this.

08:43:53.960 You did it at the end on purpose.

08:43:56.960 That's not true.

08:43:58.040 It's 2 in the morning. You can't expect us to be a pee break.

08:44:00.800 I'm old and I can still do math.

08:44:02.820 I could answer all these questions while loop...

08:44:06.900 What's the drug they give you?

08:44:08.640 when you get a surgery

08:44:11.460 I could be coming out of my

08:44:15.340 anesthesia days

08:44:17.380 after my third BBL

08:44:19.140 revision surgery and still

08:44:21.400 be able to answer these questions 0.99

08:44:23.120 and I fucking drank 0.99

08:44:25.040 10 0.99

08:44:25.780 bottles of tequila the night before

08:44:29.140 and I just got

08:44:31.140 a concussion

08:44:32.260 and

08:44:33.440 brain damage 1.00

08:44:36.040 I can still answer this shit 1.00

08:44:38.180 I'm so proud of you. 1.00

08:44:38.860 I could be a vegetable and still fucking answer these questions. 0.99

08:44:41.340 I'm so happy. 1.00

08:44:41.880 I could.

08:44:43.720 I'm so happy for you.

08:44:45.260 Be careful. 0.98

08:44:45.760 If you're a vegetable, she'll abort you. 1.00

08:44:47.480 I was just thinking that. 0.84

08:44:48.360 That is true.

08:44:49.080 She would definitely.

08:44:50.700 How many branches of U.S. government are there?

08:44:53.900 Oh, Lord.

08:44:55.060 Legislative.

08:44:55.460 Oh, I don't know.

08:44:56.260 Oh, she's even going to name them.

08:44:57.120 She's going to name them.

08:44:58.000 Wow.

08:44:58.280 I know legislative.

08:45:00.300 Yep.

08:45:01.580 Oh, executive.

08:45:03.080 Yeah.

08:45:03.380 And then I know one more, right?

08:45:06.960 The picture.

08:45:07.560 I don't remember the third one, but I know there's a third one.

08:45:11.700 The Supreme Court is part of the...

08:45:14.460 I don't know the third one, but I know there's three.

08:45:16.120 Hey, please don't be anti-Semitic.

08:45:18.860 Did you hear it?

08:45:19.680 She just called me a Jew. 1.00

08:45:20.820 Oh, no, she's just talking about Jews and shit. 1.00

08:45:23.280 I'm really shocked. 1.00

08:45:25.500 She's a bigot. 0.99

08:45:26.880 The Jews will not replace us. 1.00

08:45:28.740 Let's see.

08:45:30.340 What document begins with We the People?

08:45:33.380 The Declaration of Independence?

08:45:36.300 Declaration of Independence.

08:45:38.300 How many stars are on the U.S. flag?

08:45:40.240 50.

08:45:41.180 What century are we in?

08:45:43.820 21st.

08:45:44.840 What galaxy do we live in?

08:45:49.540 Galaxy.

08:45:50.320 Galaxy.

08:45:51.040 The planet Earth?

08:45:53.600 Wait, galaxy?

08:45:57.480 Okay, I can see why she does sex work. 1.00

08:46:01.240 Be nice, be nice.

08:46:02.360 I'm just saying, look, we all have our gifts and our talents.

08:46:06.360 what what galaxy are we in i don't know yes

08:46:12.280 are we in a galaxy far far away are we here let me ask this let me ask this as i guess a

08:46:18.360 yes or no are we in the andromeda galaxy

08:46:24.760 no yes what galaxy are we i'm gonna sound really stupid if i'm wrong but aren't we in the milky way

08:46:32.760 Are you sure?

08:46:33.360 Yeah.

08:46:33.820 You are correct.

08:46:34.720 See, I almost said that, but I thought that was confusing.

08:46:37.360 How many in one dozen?

08:46:38.800 How many in one dozen?

08:46:40.060 Yeah.

08:46:40.260 Twelve?

08:46:41.140 Congratulations.

08:46:41.620 I'll give you an easy one after that.

08:46:43.060 How many months in a decade?

08:46:44.580 How many months in a decade?

08:46:46.040 Yeah.

08:46:46.380 Twelve to 120?

08:46:47.820 Correct.

08:46:48.420 What year was the U.S. founded?

08:46:50.780 1775, wasn't it?

08:46:51.680 What country did the U.S. gain its independence from?

08:46:55.460 Britain.

08:46:56.500 Who was the first president of the United States?

08:46:59.740 george washington okay what country is the great wall of china in

08:47:07.700 you know i'm gonna go with china on that one how many letters in the alphabet 26 how many days in

08:47:16.800 a year 365 how many days of the week and with the letter y all of them what language do the people

08:47:27.640 in idaho speak english or any other language you are correct uh lexi what ocean is california next

08:47:37.320 to the pacific uh olivia how many years are in a decade 10 how many are in a century 100

08:47:46.520 if a dozen eggs cost three dollars how much is each egg doesn't it if a dozen eggs four cents

08:47:54.240 I don't know

08:47:55.360 4 cents

08:47:55.820 I'm wrong

08:47:56.800 It might be 4 cents

08:47:57.800 Wait if a dozen eggs

08:47:59.140 It costs 3 dollars

08:48:00.640 If a dozen eggs

08:48:01.660 It costs 3 dollars

08:48:02.880 How much is each egg

08:48:05.000 How much is one egg

08:48:05.940 40

08:48:07.680 Yeah

08:48:08.780 40 cents

08:48:09.700 40

08:48:10.360 45

08:48:12.820 What about you

08:48:17.420 Rina

08:48:18.080 25

08:48:21.040 Are you

08:48:23.200 Final answer

08:48:24.060 Dude, it's two in the morning.

08:48:25.200 It's good.

08:48:25.500 Let's go.

08:48:26.240 What is the closest star to Earth?

08:48:30.320 The closest star to Earth...

08:48:33.060 I don't even know right now.

08:48:38.280 Guess.

08:48:38.740 Just guess.

08:48:40.420 You know what it is.

08:48:42.060 I probably would if I was not...

08:48:54.060 uh the sun you are correct the big you know the thing in the sky that provides the light

08:49:04.360 do you know what year the war of 1812 started oh no i have no oh wait wait wait 1812

08:49:09.880 oh you just got me right there yeah i would assume it's 1812 what what weighs more a pound

08:49:15.900 of feathers or a pound of bricks they weigh the same what country is the panama canal in

08:49:21.520 animal well done what country is mount fuji in

08:49:28.900 i don't think fuji is a country what country is oh i don't know i feel like it's in

08:49:38.280 somewhere in china i don't know somewhere in china okay maybe korea

08:49:44.400 japan you are correct uh what country is the coliseum in

08:49:49.880 uh italy what country is the taj mahal i don't even know what that is taj mahal yeah no idea

08:49:59.220 is india is that india yeah what language do people speak in mexico mexican just kidding

08:50:05.440 i'm just kidding okay that was funny

08:50:08.280 if you pass the person in second place what place are you in first second first sorry good

08:50:18.080 second oh second duh you pass them wait if you take it there yeah you pass them oh so your third

08:50:24.660 you're going up second you're going up in front of them where did the attack where uh where did

08:50:29.260 the attack on pearl harbor take place why that's acceptable a farmer has 17 cheap and all but nine

08:50:37.680 die how many are left 17 minus nine is going to be wait 17 wait he has 17 and nine die all but

08:50:45.620 nine die oh nine okay you are correct what country is the eiffel tower in france what currency is 0.99

08:50:52.400 used you know too much japanese shit what country is used in japan what country what country wait 0.99

08:50:58.440 sorry what currency is used in japan you got me oh okay i don't know you don't know lexington 0.99

08:51:03.760 i do um i want to say yen that's china i think that's china oh is it that's china

08:51:10.880 No.

08:51:11.300 No, it's in Japan.

08:51:12.900 Oh, it's the Juan.

08:51:14.940 No, Juan is in Korea.

08:51:17.340 Juan is Korea. 0.78

08:51:19.560 Adolf Hitler ruled which country?

08:51:30.120 Germany.

08:51:31.080 You are correct.

08:51:31.840 Before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the tallest mountain in the world?

08:51:38.340 Bro, I build dungeons.

08:51:39.440 I don't know 0.99

08:51:41.160 I had no fucking clue 0.98

08:51:43.280 Fiji? I don't know 0.99

08:51:44.660 Mount Everest?

08:51:47.160 You are correct

08:51:48.260 Mount Everest was the tallest mountain in the world

08:51:51.880 Oh I see what you're saying 1.00

08:51:54.100 You're just fucking with us 1.00

08:51:55.480 Because it's 2am 1.00

08:51:56.300 No that is not true

08:51:57.340 Yes it is

08:51:59.440 We're at the tail end here

08:52:02.900 What country did the Vietnam War happen in?

08:52:05.920 Vietnam

08:52:06.240 You are correct

08:52:07.180 How much is a quarter of an hour?

08:52:09.440 15 minutes what is 34 plus 66

08:52:13.040 34 plus 66

08:52:18.740 no wait 30 wait 34 i'm tired

08:52:29.180 stop 30 wait wait wait wait 66 wait 7 30 34 plus 66

08:52:39.440 I already did that

08:52:42.740 And I'm what 100

08:52:44.360 You got it

08:52:46.740 Good job

08:52:47.360 Who is the current US president

08:52:51.100 Donald Trump

08:52:53.000 What is 100 minus 66

08:52:55.540 44

08:52:56.500 What is 100 minus 34

08:52:57.960 You're doing this to me on purpose

08:53:00.820 That's not true

08:53:01.660 Go get your money

08:53:04.360 Give me your cash

08:53:05.920 100 minus what

08:53:08.540 34

08:53:09.360 that's a 66 uh what is 77 plus 33

08:53:18.200 uh 120 one wait wait 70 what 77 33 77 plus 33 1.00

08:53:31.720 I'm going to kill you 1.00

08:53:34.860 If you keep asking your math questions 1.00

08:53:37.120 I'm going to kill you 1.00

08:53:38.160 I swear I have like three more 1.00

08:53:41.120 There's like three

08:53:42.220 Come down

08:53:43.100 Can I just answer the math

08:53:45.100 I have like one more math question

08:53:48.940 There's maybe two

08:53:50.360 We're at the tail end I promise

08:53:52.280 Five ten minutes tops

08:53:54.920 He wants to hurt me

08:53:56.720 77 plus 33 i i literally just said that though 120 yeah isn't just 100 i don't you no um

08:54:11.740 table math wait it's 7 plus 110 okay uh if you were if you were born 10 years ago how old would

08:54:20.440 you be today i was born 10 years ago i would be 10 how many world wars were there two

08:54:26.680 uh okay going this is for everybody what decade so when i say decade i'm looking for

08:54:32.420 the 1810s the 1950s the 1730s what decade was world war one oh uh wasn't it like

08:54:42.520 1910 17 i think it was the 1817 sorry 1800s yeah i think so i don't know what do you think

08:54:51.540 1920 okay i don't remember exactly your 1800s though 1800s okay 1820 do you want to just

08:55:00.560 throw out a decade sure 1820 1820 1820 1820 i'm pretty sure it was like 1918 to 1920 something

08:55:08.200 okay what about you um closer to mike between mike mike mike 1910 and 1920 as well okay you

08:55:14.040 said world war one that was 1914 1910s w times yeah uh what was the primary decade of world war

08:55:22.660 ii 1940 something 1940s oh it could be for 19 it was 1935 to 1945 i believe

08:55:36.000 18 so you no 19 1900s um 1950 i don't know the 50s louder please 1940 the primary decade primary

08:55:47.640 decade the 40s i just got tired i'm sorry i didn't mean it to civil war ii thank you um the 1940s

08:55:57.480 i want to say 40s but i think it started in 39. yeah he said the primary decade yeah yeah just 0.88

08:56:07.140 the primary decade what is what is 64 plus 44 oh my fucking god 64 plus 44 66 plus 44 0.99

08:56:17.180 one ten wait yeah one ten okay uh name i guess hmm name one allied power one axis power from 0.99

08:56:31.220 world war ii allied with us here okay i'll give you actually you know what fuck it skip that 0.99

08:56:37.340 name three kardashians 0.99

08:56:38.640 kim

08:56:46.860 kylie is that a well jenner we'll accept jenner okay uh

08:56:53.780 courtney that's three yeah okay anybody listen to k-pop no name three k-pop stars

08:57:05.740 um like jenny kim lisa and jisoo sweet okay uh let's see here

08:57:13.360 almost done promise you guys we got five we got five ten okay what percentage of men do you think

08:57:20.500 are over six feet oh uh maybe like 10 or 20 not too many 40 40 percent yeah uh 50 percent 50

08:57:33.500 percent? Not enough. 20, 30. 25 percent. Under 10. Maybe around 20? I'll go with 30 percent.

08:57:45.820 Rachel? Maybe 15. What percentage of men make at least one million dollars a year?

08:57:50.380 Oh. You're not going to give us the answer? Five or under? It's about 10 to 15. Okay.

08:57:55.440 Oh, sick. I got that. For the previous one. Your answer is? Five percent or under? Five percent. 0.58

08:58:01.980 or under make over a million dollars a year you said right 100,000 oh 100,000 no 1 million

08:58:08.500 yeah what percentage of men make at least 1 million dollars a year under five 1.00

08:58:13.940 just give him a fucking percent please two percent five percent fuck like three percent 1.00

08:58:20.740 three percent two percent two percent ten percent ten percent five percent five percent three percent 1.00

08:58:27.600 I was going to say three.

08:58:28.840 I think it's like 1%.

08:58:29.980 It's less than 1%.

08:58:31.140 It's less than 1% of men make $1 million a year.

08:58:35.740 What percentage of men do you find attractive? 0.86

08:58:40.240 One.

08:58:40.860 My boyfriend and that's it.

08:58:43.380 40%.

08:58:43.900 40%.

08:58:44.620 Zero.

08:58:45.480 Zero percent.

08:58:46.680 Probably 40, 50.

08:58:48.800 50%.

08:58:49.320 40%.

08:58:50.640 Less than one.

08:58:56.780 40.

08:58:58.340 Okay.

08:58:59.220 Andrew.

08:59:00.200 Yay.

08:59:00.560 There you go.

08:59:01.400 What percent of men have yachts? 0.65

08:59:03.960 Oh, my God.

08:59:05.720 Like one, probably.

08:59:07.920 Less than one.

08:59:09.920 Two percent?

08:59:10.960 0.05.

08:59:11.840 Yeah, two percent.

08:59:12.640 Less than one percent?

08:59:14.300 Way less than one percent.

08:59:17.800 I'm going to say 0.01.

08:59:20.380 Yeah, like nothing.

08:59:20.920 It's less than one percent.

08:59:21.800 Yeah.

08:59:22.300 Far less than one percent.

08:59:24.900 Have a delusional state of mind.

08:59:26.080 Let's see.

08:59:27.680 Everyone's balling out of the air.

08:59:28.820 There can't be any more questions.

08:59:30.200 What else could you ask us?

08:59:31.740 Oh, show of hands, and I'll answer some of these perhaps.

08:59:34.620 Have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them?

08:59:36.980 I have.

08:59:37.680 I've done that.

08:59:38.400 No.

08:59:39.100 I've done that.

08:59:39.740 I'm a little, I had a hoe phase. 0.98

08:59:41.240 You're a hoe. 1.00

08:59:41.820 I'm a hoe. 0.99

08:59:42.160 I thought you said you were a virgin.

08:59:43.140 I thought you were a virgin. 0.98

08:59:43.800 I'm a hoe for sure.

08:59:45.340 You said you were a virgin.

08:59:46.940 I am a virgin.

08:59:48.140 Born again.

08:59:49.460 All right.

08:59:49.960 That's right.

08:59:51.640 Yeah.

08:59:53.080 Let's see.

08:59:53.800 Nobody else?

08:59:54.760 Just you?

08:59:55.540 No, just me.

08:59:56.280 It was me.

08:59:56.620 oh wow i think there's some people are omitting their answers on this one um

09:00:02.220 does anybody anyone here ever had the threesome

09:00:07.500 you had a threesome fivesome no no more than the threesome no was it guy guy girl i've done both 0.99

09:00:14.860 you've done a devil's threesome what the fuck is a devil's threesome when there's two dudes yes i 0.96

09:00:19.180 have oh you got eiffel tower i don't know what that means and i don't want to who's had the 0.99

09:00:25.420 the ho phase anyone had the ho phase lexi you had the ho phase into the mic into the mic what was

09:00:31.400 the ho phase like college just went from an all-girls school to suddenly not wearing a 1.00

09:00:39.280 uniform there's boys around um it was definitely phases i dated someone for a very long period of

09:00:47.860 time broke my heart hooked up with a couple people like yeah all right uh who here has

09:00:57.720 hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period considering a threesome yeah oh no just like

09:01:04.380 individual individually is what i'm saying

09:01:06.660 why are you looking at me

09:01:09.840 all right nobody no two guys in a 24-hour period really none of you i've kissed two guys at a

09:01:19.560 party like i've talked i feel like that's too much uh do you believe in collective guilt

09:01:24.260 i don't know what that means like everyone like being like men men bad men have collective guilt

09:01:30.360 i don't know what that means i'm tired all right i don't um are men the problem yes do you believe

09:01:37.560 in collective guilt are men collectively guilty for the sin of being men yes yikes that's 1.00

09:01:44.820 okay um do men suck yes are men trash yes do you hate men yes are you a misandrist yes 1.00

09:01:56.800 you're a fucking awful person yes yes just gotta leave a little positivity there at the end you 1.00

09:02:03.780 thank you are you genuinely though you're not just saying all the shit you genuinely are 1.00

09:02:07.800 all these things i i don't hate all men i don't hate all men but as most men you hate yes okay

09:02:14.580 that's still very objectionable um can we put her in wyoming alone i'll go with you i know it is 1.00

09:02:22.800 beautiful i'll go with her to wyoming septum septum piercing theory septum piercing theory 1.00

09:02:28.680 i just think it's men then you don't get electricity or running water or sewers or 0.91

09:02:35.400 figure it out or 9-1-1 or firefighters car breaks down i still got it that's what we got you 0.98

09:02:40.800 that's true yeah you're her only option i still got it do you uh think men suck no i don't think 1.00

09:02:49.860 that's okay are men trash no do you hate men no are you misandrist no are men the problem i don't 0.99

09:02:54.900 should we repeal the 19th i don't know what that means okay is that what that's what's right to 0.99

09:03:00.700 wait that's woman's right to vote right no no we should not no we should not we should not 1.00

09:03:03.900 repeat no woman's right to vote no we should not take that away i don't believe that i think you've

09:03:07.640 demonstrated that we should oh i just need to do more research all right let's yeah uh let's see

09:03:15.980 hold on there's like two more hold on uh uh what do you think about white men 0.98

09:03:21.740 like the worst ones yikes 0.99

09:03:26.160 wait wait personally white dudes only just saying 1.00

09:03:31.540 wait what do you think about white people 0.92

09:03:35.140 i mean half of my family is white so i mean all white people or all white all white people

09:03:47.200 You can put aside that you like your family

09:03:50.520 But just all other white people 0.99

09:03:52.180 I mean I don't hate

09:03:54.580 All white people at all 0.99

09:03:55.620 Do you hate most white people? 1.00

09:03:57.460 Do you think most white people are bad? 1.00

09:04:00.800 No 0.99

09:04:01.320 Just racist ones

09:04:02.900 Are most white people racist?

09:04:06.660 I wouldn't say so

09:04:08.680 I think it might be about

09:04:12.160 50-50 actually

09:04:13.400 So it's just the white men 0.96

09:04:14.240 You don't like white men 0.99

09:04:16.960 wow okay uh do you think white people are inherently racist 0.97

09:04:20.840 no okay um hmm

09:04:28.080 i think that's it to be honest i think i'm i think that's it hallelujah any final thoughts

09:04:36.740 from anybody before i wrap this up you should try to buy your book to a different country you can

09:04:41.940 buy my book i've traveled to occult feminism the secret history of women's liberation if you want

09:04:47.620 to find out what really happened with feminism and not all the garbage you've been told on amazon 0.98

09:04:52.280 and please buy the book because it goes to andrew's gun collection fund there you go nice 0.89

09:04:59.200 there you go um oh i'm sorry do we need men no oh oh like maybe you speak into the microphone

09:05:08.340 that a man invented one more time and tell us that yeah that was crazy no 0.92

09:05:13.300 so you might not die ending the human race no i'm not no i'm not going to just go in

09:05:22.600 end everyone's life what do you mean but you can we put you in wyoming with this we don't

09:05:28.640 have time for this we've been talking about this all day it is beautiful but how long would you

09:05:34.100 survive there without men purely hypothetical it doesn't matter you're just out in the middle of

09:05:39.060 nowhere in wyoming none of no electricity no grocery stores nothing how how long can you make

09:05:45.280 it i don't know what if you what if you took 10 chicks with you like women or chicken 1.00

09:05:52.140 you took 10 women with you could you survive longer or would you die faster

09:05:57.620 survive longer probably like that like what is what are these questions like let's just wait 0.86

09:06:07.280 why do you why do you hate men just for fun you hate just for fun bonkers that is privilege right

09:06:16.420 that's that is a huge level of privilege to hate a whole like gender species because it's fun she 1.00

09:06:23.800 also didn't get disciplined enough that's all dude my son needed more spanking so you're saying 0.73

09:06:29.220 that like my son single family or single mother and you hate men just no that is a child but will 0.95

09:06:36.200 one day become a man okay one day will grow into a man i do not consider i think we all want to go

09:06:41.000 home like yeah i just thought that to have all of that and then say just for fun for this entire 0.98

09:06:47.760 podcast okay do you think trump wait do you think trump is a fascist i think he is a racist homophobic 0.99

09:06:53.660 fascist pedophiles what is the definition of a definition of fascist because you don't know what 1.00

09:07:02.900 it is homophobic the guy that put rainbow flags on all of the foreign embassies you think he's 1.00

09:07:10.200 homophobic i do my dick sucked by bill clinton though so that's not very homophobic okay i voted 1.00

09:07:15.840 for trump and i'll say his three biggest flaws are he's too pro-gay he's too pro-woman and he's 1.00

09:07:21.600 to pro-israel so that's all right that's great let's go wait hold on okay no we're not going 0.97

09:07:26.540 to get into the fascist he needs to stop hiring women for everything look they call him like 0.99

09:07:29.820 i just don't give a fuck don't use words you don't know yeah really quick just really quick 0.97

09:07:35.220 we won't dive into like the fascist debate but just really what is a fascist isn't it someone 0.99

09:07:40.480 that's like isn't it it's do you know you asked someone like thinks like like i don't know the 0.52

09:07:48.240 right word i'm so fucking tired i know what a fascist is you don't you know what a fascist is 0.96

09:07:52.760 isn't it someone that i don't know you know i don't have the words you're using you're literally 1.00

09:07:58.380 calling someone a fascist and a rapist you don't even know what the fuck i want to go home you 1.00

09:08:02.160 clearly don't give a fuck you're so uneducated honestly i'm being so masculine it's too i would 1.00

09:08:07.400 love to just you're actually you're very disingenuous i am disingenuous i'm a retard 1.00

09:08:13.920 so stupid like i'm the fucking first person i just like i'm uneducated i'm stupid like 1.00

09:08:21.280 autism too a little autism in there probably yes i'm on the spectrum i need a tissue 1.00

09:08:27.760 a tissue we we have there's a paper towels a tissue like yeah yeah just use a paper towel

09:08:34.640 homegirl wait wait hold on well yeah yeah i i swear it's coming it's like right here it's right

09:08:39.880 i promise i promise five minutes five minutes hard stop hard stop okay who here um wait wait

09:08:46.360 uh you're you're filipina yeah yes okay i'll ask this super quick um 1.00

09:08:52.120 ah fuck it wait actually fuck it i'll ask it in a morally neutral blame three 1.00

09:08:58.480 sorry i'm retarded in a morally neutral blame free hypothetical conflict between the u.s 1.00

09:09:04.240 and the uh you were born in the u.s your parents are were born in the philippines though right

09:09:09.800 Do you have an affinity towards the Philippines?

09:09:14.400 I'm sorry.

09:09:15.100 I don't know what affinity means.

09:09:16.720 Like loyalty?

09:09:18.700 Do you have good vibes?

09:09:21.880 I have good vibes for the Philippines, but I'm not loyal to the country. 1.00

09:09:26.720 I've never been there.

09:09:27.540 I think it'd be ludicrous to be loyal to a country that I have.

09:09:30.540 I don't know.

09:09:31.120 My mom didn't teach me traditional ways.

09:09:33.580 That's just like my...

09:09:34.880 Is your dad Romanian then?

09:09:38.060 Mm-hmm.

09:09:38.460 Okay.

09:09:38.760 Romania is orthodox

09:09:40.280 Was anybody here born in a different country?

09:09:44.260 No

09:09:44.420 Anybody here's parents are like

09:09:46.960 Immigrants

09:09:48.320 Yes

09:09:48.900 I'm going to skip that

09:09:51.160 I'm going to skip that line of inquiry

09:09:53.760 And I'm going to wrap the show up

09:09:55.780 That was a good show guys

09:09:58.340 I had a good time

09:09:59.200 Thank you very much

09:10:00.260 I had a great time Rachel

09:10:02.960 Oh wait let me hide that

09:10:05.280 Really quick we'll do our final call for Twitch

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09:10:17.980 i need a prime sub right now this vitesse vitesse quick quickly give me a oh merci beaucoup 0.98

09:10:24.760 big wet be there merci beaucoup big wet be there c'est très bien ça et bien donc uh also you guys

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09:10:41.780 I don't know what 0.99

09:10:42.820 the fucking accent I'm doing. You were born in France, 1.00

09:10:44.960 weren't you? I was.

09:10:47.480 Debateuniversity.com

09:10:48.740 I thought you were African American.

09:10:50.460 Well, I am African American.

09:10:52.420 Because my dad was born in

09:10:54.300 African American. Never mind. 1.00

09:10:55.800 Virginal black man from France. 1.00

09:10:57.280 I am a virgin. 0.99

09:10:59.440 I am a virgin. That is correct.

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09:11:15.600 It's great stuff, guys.

09:11:16.740 Okay.

09:11:17.940 Let me see if there's any shout outs I had to do.

09:11:20.200 John Stray, thank you for the 25 via Venmo.

09:11:23.580 Big ups.

09:11:24.700 Big ups, y'all.

09:11:27.400 Yikes.

09:11:28.120 Yikes.

09:11:28.860 Yikes.

09:11:29.300 what's a what's another accent i can do should i do an accent no you shouldn't no you should not

09:11:35.500 yeah yeah yeah do another one do russian another all right um shake rattlesnake accent i sometimes

09:11:42.600 australia is a bit difficult but i'll do a like an upper crusty british received pronunciation

09:11:48.140 accent tiffany dear go get me my loafers go tiffany chop chop get me my loafers 0.99

09:11:56.900 I'm so over your shit 1.00

09:11:59.920 Listen 1.00

09:12:01.800 I do not want you

09:12:03.320 The lady doth protest too much 1.00

09:12:05.420 Methinks

09:12:06.400 Three more hours

09:12:10.080 I was awake at 5.30 this morning

09:12:12.400 And driving

09:12:13.220 Quiet if your mouth

09:12:16.060 Sir

09:12:16.580 The lady doth protest too much 1.00

09:12:19.140 Methinks

09:12:19.720 Now do a Japanese samurai 1.00

09:12:23.000 Anybody can

09:12:25.360 Maybe I do like the nail salon Vietnamese. 0.96

09:12:27.760 Oh, honey, doing a nail for you, $5.

09:12:30.700 You go to jail with the nail with the shine.

09:12:35.020 Looks so good.

09:12:35.680 You're so preemie.

09:12:36.440 Why you don't have boyfriend?

09:12:37.420 Oh, you don't have boyfriend?

09:12:38.020 I like that. 1.00

09:12:39.140 Honey, nail looks like shit. 0.99

09:12:41.340 I'm just cringy. 1.00

09:12:42.600 I'm about to be charged with kidnapping at this point.

09:12:46.080 So I do got to wrap the show.

09:12:48.180 But I want to say GG.

09:12:49.820 Well played.

09:12:50.980 To the panel.

09:12:52.300 Last couple.

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09:13:27.740 course dm at whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara are we forgetting anything

09:13:33.520 are we forgetting anything nope my ring oh that's true that's true uh i feel like i feel like we're

09:13:43.440 forgetting something um no no we're i very great at 2jz ran on social does your boy thing pay you

09:13:52.560 child support boy thing my what baby you have a kid does do the bd no we co-parent co-parent okay

09:13:58.620 just curious just curious uh i feel like i'm forgetting something we just rage baiting me at

09:14:03.640 this point um okay uh nathan you know the the drill um so okay um

09:14:11.320 oh sevens in the chat thank you guys for tuning in thank you you guys by the way thank you to

09:14:18.720 the panel you guys were wonderful thank you to the panel oh sevens in the chat oh sevens in the

09:14:22.700 chat and we will see you guys next time good night guys okay guys that uh really quick before you get

09:14:31.220 up we are wrapped just one question did anybody lie about anything no i was very like did anybody

09:14:37.560 like the body count did anybody do like do you want to reveal but like did anybody what did

09:14:41.360 anybody lie about the body count we're still live really aren't we what no we the stream's over it

09:14:47.320 says live right there no the stream's over what are you talking about it's not over way more censored

09:14:52.520 with some of my questions but did but did anybody lie about the body count no wait oh my nathan we're 0.97

09:14:59.960 still fucking love oh my god what the fuck nathan yeah wow oh my god stretching why everybody got 0.99

09:15:05.440 watch me stream i think you were off camera yeah wait just put turn put your head in and just 1.00

09:15:13.120 okay okay sorry it's it's his first dream you know i

09:15:35.440 Thank you.

Whatever Podcast - March 30, 2026

Rachel Wilson vs. HATER Feminists & Woke Liberal Girls？! E-GIRL Bankrupts Men？! ｜ Dating Talk 288

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