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00:00:56.600 watching, Grid One is watching the stream on his phone. When he literally, he has the,

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00:01:09.500 That's a fucking 50 DKP Minus! Oh my goodness. What the fuck was that shit?

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00:05:56.820 Appreciate it guys. All right. Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce

00:06:00.840 themselves. So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from and education. Go

00:06:05.860 ahead. My name is Soph. I'm 19. I'm a seasonal stagehand and traveler and I'm originally from

00:06:10.480 South Florida. All right. And, uh, any education? Are you going to college or? Uh, yeah. I recently

00:06:16.360 graduated, uh, for a trade school for audio engineering called, uh, Conservatory Recording

00:06:20.380 Earths and Sciences in Phoenix, Arizona. And you're a musician, right? Yes, sir. Okay. What kind of music do you do?

00:06:26.000 Um, really anything. Uh, recently I've been experimenting more with, with ambient drum and

00:06:31.500 bass, but I like to branch out into whatever I can. Okay. Like recently I just kind of sing.

00:06:36.080 Do you sing? Yes. Can I sing? No, but I do it anyways. Sure. Yeah. And you also do urban

00:06:43.680 climbing, urban exploration. Uh, you call it that? Yeah. Well, do you do urbac? It's called urbax.

00:06:53.000 Yeah. So it would be urbax for sure, but you'd mostly do climbing, right? Yeah. That that's my

00:06:57.680 thing. So whether it's like side of a boulder, I really like going up, you know, South Florida

00:07:02.080 doesn't really have any mountains. So did you email us the video you took earlier today? No,

00:07:06.440 I didn't. I'm sorry, man. Well, maybe like not now, but when you get up, you can email it to us

00:07:12.920 and we'll show the stream. But Nick, we do have a video of some of her climbing in the discord.

00:07:17.640 Uh, it's actually quite impressive. So Nick, it's going to be in the, hmm, where did I put it?

00:07:26.740 Where did I put it? Oh, I think it was behind the scenes tab. Yeah. The first one, uh, you'll

00:07:33.260 click the first video, make it full screen. And you, you sent us some voice notes too. So here's

00:07:39.040 what I did. I, I, pause it. I created a montage of some of your climbing and I overlaid the voice

00:07:47.520 note that you sent to me. Oh God. So it's, it's going to be very, uh, I love it already. Let's

00:07:52.620 pull it up.

00:07:56.140 It's me, bro. No balls, bro. I got fire ticks. Trust, trust, trust. I know I'm not that like

00:08:00.840 woman lead, but you said you're casting girls and I'd be girl and I'm pretty dude-ish, pretty

00:08:07.180 dude-ish. But I got tits and a pussy. Makes me a woman type shit. You know what I mean?

00:08:13.180 Type shit. Type shit. Type shit. I literally fly out. Like I'm in Florida right now, but

00:08:16.400 I literally fly out just to ramble. Ramble time. Talk about towers and shit or whatever

00:08:21.100 the fuck y'all talk about. Oh God. On the whatever podcast. My fault. This is all joke. My fault.

00:08:27.740 But if you want me, I'll fly out. No joke. Just for fun. Fuck it. Why not? The only payment

00:08:32.900 I ask is that you let me climb on the roof of your facility and I'll take a video from

00:08:39.140 the roof of your facility and promote the whatever podcast. No balls. You won't get an urban climber

00:08:44.040 on your podcast. No balls. No balls. No balls. I don't even know what no balls is. I don't

00:08:48.100 know what it is that y'all yap about. I just saw one of your videos. Don't talk about dudes

00:08:51.820 and things. I don't know. I got a boyfriend. He's pretty dope. I don't think he's allowed

00:08:56.300 on the podcast, but if he can come, he's great, dude. I love my boyfriend. Shout out

00:09:00.120 my boyfriend. Shout out my boyfriend. I don't even know what I'm saying. You're not going

00:09:04.000 to respond, but if you want to respond, if you want to get probably one of the most androgynous

00:09:08.980 people you've gotten on the podcast. Shout out. That's 19 and from South Florida and was

00:09:13.400 living out of her car for two years and climbs big ass towers. Oh God. Hell yeah.

00:09:17.560 Yeah. Count me in, bro. I'll fly out just for it. I saw that you got a Kyber on there.

00:09:22.900 Shout out my girlfriend. I'll be down. You can stop it. All right. We get the idea. We

00:09:26.300 get the idea. That's cool though. How long you been doing urban climbing for? I mean, not

00:09:31.160 that long. I mean, when I was young, I would always just be scaling palm trees and climbing

00:09:35.680 Publix rooftops. Are you kidding me? Oh God. Sorry. Hearing my own voice scares me, but it hasn't

00:09:41.440 been too long. I mean, it's only been like a couple of years, but it's not, I'd say my niche,

00:09:46.760 but it's, it's accidentally what got this whole algorithm thing started up. I was just

00:09:51.380 like a small town ranch girl in rural Colorado until, what was it? Late May. And then I made

00:09:56.700 one little video. And then next thing I know, a couple of months later, boom, 200 K boom.

00:10:01.040 I'm in LA. It's weird. I'm not used to it. That's why I don't really know how to act,

00:10:05.540 uh, put on like a persona. I'm just, I'm me on voice memo and right here, you know,

00:10:10.840 what's the tallest structure you've ever climbed? Um, I think tallest. Well, there was a

00:10:16.420 500 foot that I topped out with my friend that was somewhere in Pennsylvania. Um, there might've

00:10:22.680 been, I might've hit like a bridge in, in Germany that was a little taller. Ooh, I cannot do the

00:10:28.320 conversion right now, but I did hit a hundred meter windmill with my friends. They took me

00:10:31.880 up there. Are there girls that like other girls that do this? Cause I feel like it's mostly guys

00:10:35.340 urban climbing stuff. It is mostly dudes, but, um, do you, do you, is there a fear response

00:10:42.760 in you when you do that stuff? Not anymore. I mean, like you, you're 500 feet up, no harness,

00:10:48.840 right? You don't, you don't hook into anything. You're at, you're climbing some tower that's

00:10:54.260 sometimes not even meant to be climbed. Right. It's just bars, you know, but it's not like a ladder.

00:10:58.740 Um, no fear. Well, I mean, there is the automatic amygdala response of like, yo, don't fall. You

00:11:07.220 probably will die, but they're not is the looking down and getting, when you look down in place of

00:11:12.860 it, there's just like a, an adrenaline rush. Like even me, if I watch like a, have you done

00:11:18.040 any free solo stuff? Uh, a little bit. When I was out in Colorado, I was, you know, driving from stage

00:11:22.680 gig to stage gig and there were, there would be some, you know, cliff sides and I'll be like,

00:11:26.240 I don't really have a harness. I'll just, I'll just free solo it. Like what, would you ever,

00:11:29.580 what, what's his name? Alex Honnold or what that, you know who that is? Yes. Yes. I don't know if I

00:11:33.720 said his name right. Like he free soloed El Cap. Yeah. Yeah. Would you ever do that? If, okay. I

00:11:39.400 would need training. Or you're, you're not like a rock climber. I want to be, but I've never really

00:11:43.940 had much rocks grown up, you know, Florida. It's probably a different skill set. It is. Yeah. Cause I

00:11:50.400 guess urban climbing is very mechanical. It's just like peg, peg, peg, peg, peg for like a good half. Like I feel

00:11:54.860 probably for rock climbing, the grip is a bit more cause the bars, it's just whatever. Yeah.

00:12:00.480 It's mechanic. Exactly. Yeah. But like, I would love to like truly get into rock climbing and free

00:12:05.760 soloing and just send something crazy. Cause even for me though, watching those videos,

00:12:10.120 like my hands get all clammy, just even watching it. So I can't even imagine doing it. Have you ever

00:12:16.680 fought like slipped and fell? Knock on wood. Sorry. That's a Slav thing. Slav say when they say

00:12:22.780 knock on wood, but knock on wood, no, not yet. Hope I don't, you know, life is worth living.

00:12:26.580 And you're from Florida. Yes. Born and raised. Yes. So you're Florida woman. You know how there's

00:12:31.900 Florida man? You're like Florida woman. Yes. She knows. You're also from Florida. Yes. Yeah. Okay.

00:12:38.760 Well, that's cool. Um, all right. So, uh, Oh, one quick thing guys, I forgot to mention this during the

00:12:46.860 intro for the merch stuff. If you guys do buy something, it comes through stream labs. So

00:12:53.100 we can actually see when you buy something. So we just had a couple of purchases there. Jasmine,

00:12:58.100 thank you. I don't know why these didn't come. It's shop.whatever.com. So we'll shout you guys

00:13:07.100 out. Veroxies. It sounds like a house of the dragon, dragon name or something. Uh, we'll give

00:13:13.900 you guys shout outs. If you guys get something at the merch shop. Thank you guys. Okay. Uh, what

00:13:18.120 about you? My name is Shay. I am from San Diego. Um, I am currently a UCSB student. I am going to be

00:13:26.600 doing poli sci major with a minor in math. And then what was the other question? Uh, are you,

00:13:32.900 you're freshman year, right? Yes. Okay. Uh, and you said you're studying poli sci with a minor in

00:13:38.160 math. Okay. What do you want to do, uh, after college politics or lawyer? We will see. I don't

00:13:44.640 think I want to go into law, but I, I'm just so interested in it. I also am kind of considering

00:13:51.640 sociology though. So we'll see. Okay. Changing your major. Okay. Gotcha. And, um, so no idea what you

00:13:59.100 want to do, not even a, like a suspicion or, or hint, maybe like something with sales.

00:14:04.440 I was kind of thinking about like medical device sales. Obviously that is so different than

00:14:08.500 my major. So we definitely have to see, but I feel like interacting with people is something

00:14:16.160 that I really want to do. Sure. Yeah. What about you? Uh, my name is Mahi. I'm from the Chicago

00:14:20.980 suburbs and I'm also a UCSB student and I'm 18 and my major is psych and brain. Psych and brain.

00:14:27.600 What do you want to do with that? Um, I want to get a PhD in clinical psychology.

00:14:32.280 Okay. You want to be a psychologist, psychiatrist, psychologist, psychologist. Okay. Gotcha. And

00:14:37.760 sorry, you said you're from where again? The Chicago suburbs, Chicago. Okay. Chirac. Sorry.

00:14:44.760 Uh, Chicago suburbs. Okay. Um, like born and raised or, um, I was born in North Carolina,

00:14:52.680 but we spent most of my life in like Illinois. Spent most of your time in, um, gotcha.

00:14:57.600 Okay. Okay. What about you? Hey, my name's Brie. I'm originally from Los Angeles, uh, born and

00:15:03.680 raised, um, in the San Fernando Valley. Okay. Um, I have been a matchmaker slash dating coach for the

00:15:11.120 last five plus years, taking a break now, um, to care for my mom who's, uh, who's sick with stage

00:15:17.880 for cancer. So. Sorry to hear that. Um, age. My age? I just turned 36. 36. Gotcha. Yeah. This month.

00:15:25.960 The fifth. And any college education? I studied communications. Yeah. At, uh, uh, got a bachelor's.

00:15:32.920 No. Sorry. What, which college? Uh, I went to Pierce. Pierce. Pierce. Yeah. Pierce. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

00:15:38.380 Where's that? In, in San Fernando Valley. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. In Woodland Hills. Okay. So you

00:15:43.620 got your bachelor's like you completed. Okay. Dropped out. I dropped out. I had a, a, a child

00:15:50.200 at, um, 20, almost 21. So yeah. Okay. All right. And, uh, let's see. So your, your kid

00:16:01.340 is 16? 15. 15. Okay. All right. And, uh, matchmaker. I'll, uh, I'll dive into the matchmaker

00:16:10.660 stuff once we get, well, a little later on in the show. What about you? My name's Hannah.

00:16:15.200 I'm 26. I'm from San Diego and I studied entrepreneurship and architecture at NYU. And I kind of used my degree.

00:16:23.480 I went to go to business school and now I work at a fintech startup doing operations. Gotcha.

00:16:29.340 So you live, are you living in California? I live in San Diego. San Diego. Yeah. But

00:16:33.520 and you're from New York. Did you San Diego also? I went to NYU. Okay. There's my confusion. Yeah.

00:16:39.980 And you, so you got your degree in entrepreneurship and architecture and architecture. Yeah. I went

00:16:45.540 to a weird school. It was Gallatin. So you sort of take your interests and merge them together

00:16:50.620 into a degree. Um, mainly went there for a business school. Okay. Gotcha. What about you?

00:16:57.700 I'm Bella. I'm from Los Angeles. Also the San Fernando Valley. Um, yeah, I go to Santa Barbara

00:17:04.960 community college and I'm studying communications. Uh, first year, second year, second year. And

00:17:10.460 so you're, uh, are you 18, 19? I'm 19. 19. Gotcha. Studying comm. Do you have a sense of,

00:17:15.840 uh, what you want to do for work? Are you going to, are you going to transfer to a two years?

00:17:19.740 I'm going to tag to UCSB. Go to UCSB and continue with, uh, comm. Yes. Okay. And then from there,

00:17:26.380 do you have ideas of what you'd like your career to be or? No, I'm very much like a people person.

00:17:31.600 So obviously comms is a good major for that. And we're going from there. Okay, cool. What about

00:17:36.740 you? Hi, I'm Kennedy. I'm 20 and I study communications in Santa Barbara at SPCC and I own a clothing line.

00:17:45.540 Um, all right. And, uh, you said you study comm? Yeah. Communications. Gotcha. And where are you

00:17:52.480 from? I'm from Dana Point, California. Dana Point, California. All right, cool. What about you?

00:17:58.700 I'm Karina. I'm 33. I just turned 33 last week. Um, this past week. Um, yeah, I'm a repossession

00:18:07.060 agent from South Florida. Um, I've been doing that for five years. I recently got saved. So I'm a

00:18:15.880 newborn, uh, born again, Christian as of a year and a half ago. So I do a lot of ministry work via

00:18:22.320 social media and online coaching. All right. Uh, how long, you said you've been doing repo for

00:18:28.500 five years? Yes. And, uh, you're repoing cars. Do you repo other stuff or? Just cars. Just cars. So

00:18:37.080 you have like a tow truck. Yeah. And how quick can you, uh, like what's the process for repo?

00:18:44.180 Well, I don't know. How does that work? Um, well, so we use an application on our phone and they give

00:18:49.140 us accounts and we run these accounts to try and locate the vehicle. And if the vehicle is there,

00:18:53.520 we hook it and book it, hook it and book it. Yeah. And so like you just, you back your truck or

00:19:01.080 whatever into the thing, you slide the thing under. Yes. And so what, it had gone in 60 seconds

00:19:06.140 basically. Yes. Have you ever had any, um, altercations? Um, I've had a few, I had a bouncer

00:19:14.400 come out with a gun. Um, I had a whole family lock me in their driveway. Like I, I hooked up to the car

00:19:21.760 and they closed the gate on me. So yeah, that was interesting. But what did you carry? No,

00:19:30.040 not at this company. Oh, okay. Cause I feel like it can be kind of a dangerous job, you know?

00:19:35.140 How did you get out? Yeah. What did you do when you got locked in? Um, well, the daughter swung on

00:19:39.540 me a few times, but the, the brother, um, kept blocking it. So every time she would like lift her

00:19:45.520 arm to swing, the brother would hold her back. So I was, it was fine. Um, in those kinds of

00:19:51.200 situations, I tend to get a little bit snarky cause you know, um, yeah, so I didn't really help,

00:19:57.940 help the matters and make them good at all. Um, but I did, um, I did, I did get out eventually.

00:20:06.680 The, the, the father, um, opened the gate for me. Yeah. So good times. Um, and, uh,

00:20:16.240 do you get a commission? How does that work? I'm a, I, I'm paid salary here. Yeah. At this company

00:20:22.640 at the other company I used to work for, it was, it was a commission per car.

00:20:27.540 All right, cool. Well, uh, welcome everybody. We're going to go around the table once more.

00:20:31.920 What's, uh, your current relationship status. If you're single, how long have you been single

00:20:36.040 and longest relationships starting with you? Uh, I'm currently taken. I love my boyfriend.

00:20:40.880 He's dope. Uh, and my longest relationship, uh, about three months. So is that your current

00:20:48.660 boyfriend or? We're actually pretty new. Oh, how long have you been seeing your current boyfriend?

00:20:53.480 Uh, about a month. One month. We, we met each other at a show back when I was in Florida. It was like

00:20:57.840 deep in Miami and he was visiting in from Pennsylvania and he was with all his friends and he's like,

00:21:03.700 oh, we're just driving in for the show. And I was opening, I was opening for this email band called

00:21:06.720 to set my friends on fire. And they were like, you just want to come with us? And I'm like,

00:21:10.880 yes, please get me out of Florida. So I joined them on the road trip. And then from that day

00:21:15.320 up until when I flew out to LA, we were in literally jointed at the hip for like the past month.

00:21:20.360 Shout out. He's flying in like on Wednesday. I love you, Lance. Sorry. All right, cool. Does he also

00:21:25.300 do the, uh, urban climbing stuff? Not as much as I do. So our first day I did take him on a tower,

00:21:30.360 but it wasn't really that high up. It was only like a hundred, 150 feet. Was that his first time? Yes.

00:21:36.720 Okay. Did you tell, you tell, told him what you were going to do, right? Yes. Like imagine

00:21:42.640 showing up to a date with a girl and she's like, all right, we're climbing this shit.

00:21:46.000 It was literally first day. Our, actually our first kiss was on that road trip up somewhere

00:21:50.400 in like North Carolina. And it was at a, oh, wow. So romantic. Just climbing. Oh,

00:21:57.420 we kissed at an abandoned pool. Wait, question for you. Um, let's say he showed up to the date,

00:22:02.760 right? I know you told him what you're doing, but he shows up, he, he sees it. He sees the thing he's

00:22:08.440 about to climb and he's like, eh, you know, I'm not really, I'm not going to do it. Are you, is,

00:22:14.100 is it deal breaker? No, no, not at all. What if he's like, he's, he's like, I'm scared. He says,

00:22:19.420 you're fine. Yeah, of course. Okay. Of course. No, it's totally understandable. It wouldn't be like,

00:22:24.700 it's not a deal breaker. A deal breaker for me is like intellect. Like if, if you cannot intellectually

00:22:28.940 keep up with whatever conversation I got going on, if something I'm rambling about is quote unquote

00:22:33.680 too deep, that's my deal breaker. But if you don't want to join me on whatever risk taking

00:22:38.000 bullshit I do, dude, understandable, protect your life, you know? Makes sense. Yeah. Okay. Uh,

00:22:45.420 all right. What about you? Um, I have been in a relationship for six months at this point and my

00:22:51.740 longest relationship was like one and a half, two years. All right. So the current relationship,

00:22:57.780 uh, six months, does he also go to UCSB? No. Is it long distance? Yes. It's long distance. Um,

00:23:05.220 you're wait, remind me you're from San Diego. Is he in San Diego? Yes. Where, where's he though?

00:23:10.360 Um, right now he's a senior in high school, so he's graduating next year and then NYU is where he's

00:23:17.620 trying to go. I see. Okay. Uh, so you guys went to the same high school. Sorry. Uh, you guys went to

00:23:26.380 the same high school then? We met at work. Okay. Yes. Um, and he, so he's 18 or? Yes. Okay. Uh,

00:23:34.560 but he's just a grade below you. Okay. We're like the same age. Gotcha. And, uh, wait, hold on. So,

00:23:42.320 okay. He's in San Diego. Yeah. Are you planning to like go back to visit him? Um, I visit him actually

00:23:48.900 two weeks ago and that was really nice. We, um, went out, we went to like some restaurants.

00:23:56.340 That was super fun. We actually went rock climbing. No way. Yeah. Let's go. But it was an

00:24:00.880 indoor one. We, we don't do all that risky stuff. Still though, that's hard. Yeah. Okay. Um,

00:24:07.040 do you think that the fact that you guys, I, you know, I wouldn't even say it's long distance.

00:24:10.980 I would say it's medium. Medium. For sure. You're in a medium distance relationship. Uh,

00:24:15.380 you think it's going to present any complications or issues for you guys or?

00:24:20.180 It has a little bit. Um, but I feel like our communication is really strong. So we just talk

00:24:26.800 through our problems. We have like little date nights every once in a while where we just like

00:24:32.140 call, watch a movie or play video games. And that has been, it's honestly been really good so far.

00:24:39.020 I can see this definitely improving our relationship. Improving the relationship. Okay. Uh,

00:24:44.040 we have a chat coming in here from Adzils. Thank you, man. Appreciate it.

00:24:47.820 Adzils donated $200. Yo, thank you, man. Hey, Brian, your favorite Brit is back. Give me a salute.

00:24:54.660 Fine, sir. Hashtag free Felicity. Hashtag Brian. I see fight. Hashtag Michael Jackson is king.

00:25:01.200 Amen. Uh, Adzils. Appreciate it. Uh, thank you, man. Michael Jackson is king.

00:25:09.160 Sure. Michael Jackson is king. You're, you're really big.

00:25:12.840 Michael Jackson fan. By the way, uh, I think I've shared this a few times before on the show.

00:25:18.200 When I was young, I actually, I went to, don't worry, nothing happened. Went to Neverland Ranch

00:25:23.160 when I was like 10.

00:25:27.180 And I met Michael and he was chill. He was cool.

00:25:30.780 Nothing weird, you know, got a bunch of free food. Neverland Ranch.

00:25:35.360 Oh, yeah. Hard. Yeah. So W. Michael Jackson or I, RIP. Anyways, um, good talk. Uh, relationship

00:25:44.880 status for you? Um, I'm currently in a relationship of a little over two years.

00:25:48.840 Two years. Okay. Uh, and, um, longest relationship I'm assuming. Okay. And you guys met in high

00:25:56.060 school and? Yeah, we met junior year. High school sweethearts. Um, does he go to UCSB?

00:26:03.240 No, he's back in Illinois. He's at Urbana-Champaign, UIUC. He's in Chicago. Got it. Oh, no, Urbana-Champaign.

00:26:10.060 So that's not. It's like. Different part of Illinois. Yeah. And, uh, so long distance then.

00:26:15.140 Mm-hmm. Um, how long, so it's been, wait, you're a first year, right? Yeah. Okay. So you just moved

00:26:19.660 here. Okay. Any, any issues with the long distance? Um, a little bit, but we were used

00:26:25.940 to being, like, five minutes apart. So, like, going from that to, like, long distance, obviously

00:26:30.200 there'd be complications, but honestly, it's been going pretty well. Gotcha. Okay. Um,

00:26:36.380 and are you guys planning to try to see each other? Like, he comes here, you go there, or

00:26:44.500 are you guys going to kind of more so wait maybe till the holidays? Like, I don't know if

00:26:47.720 you're planning to go home during Christmas? Um, yeah, the next one I'm seeing is going

00:26:50.760 to be Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Because he's also a biomedical, like, engineering, so

00:26:54.700 it's kind of hard for him to come visit and, like, ignore school for a long time. Uh-huh.

00:26:59.300 But I know in May, for sure, he'll come visit because he gets out earlier since UCSB is on

00:27:03.460 a quarter system, so he'll come for, like, a week. Is he the one? Yeah, I honestly would

00:27:07.340 say that's why I want to, like, do long distance because he's, like, halfway across the

00:27:10.520 country. Gotcha. All right. What about you? Um, funny you ask. Uh,

00:27:17.680 that's a little complicated at the moment. Tell us. Been with my current partner for

00:27:23.680 over five years. Uh, we got engaged, actually, in New Zealand, um, this February. Um, but

00:27:32.060 I'm not wearing my ring at the moment. Taking a little bit of space. Uh, yeah. Just, yeah.

00:27:39.280 Just to, um, I don't know, reassess, I guess. And, uh, I have bigger fish to fry, honestly.

00:27:45.880 So, um. What do you mean bigger fish to fry? Like, as far as, like, my personal life is

00:27:50.720 concerned, um, romantic love isn't at the forefront of my mind at the moment. So, so

00:27:58.040 just taking a little space, I mean, yeah. But five plus years, not my longest relationship.

00:28:03.500 Um, my only other relationship has been with, um, my son's father for seven and a half years.

00:28:10.060 And those are the two relationships I've had. Were you ever married? Never married.

00:28:13.800 No. Okay. Um. But definitely planned to be. Uh, really quick, just on the, your son's

00:28:20.100 father. Yeah. Uh, are you guys co-parenting? We are now. Yeah. Okay. It took us a really

00:28:27.180 long time to get there, but, uh, but we are now. Okay. Uh, does he pay you child support?

00:28:31.560 Um, no, he doesn't. Do you pay him child support? No, I don't. Okay. Is there, has this been

00:28:42.220 litigated in the court or has it been handled informally? Informally. It's a long story, but,

00:28:48.460 um, yeah, no, it's just not worth it to. Okay. And you said you were 19 when you got pregnant?

00:28:53.080 Technically. Technically. And then you had your kid when you were 20. Correct. So he was

00:28:58.060 also young? Correct. Young guy? He was, um, 24 and I was, I think, 18, 19. So not too big

00:29:05.360 of an age difference. My current partner is, um, 18 years older than me. So quite a, quite

00:29:12.800 a bit. So he's 53. 53. 53. Okay. Yeah. And you're 36. Um, it's complicated though. How long

00:29:22.080 has it been complicated and how long have you not been wearing your ring? Um, it's been complicated

00:29:28.580 for, for a bit. Um, he has a child from a previous marriage. He's been previously married. I have not

00:29:37.820 been married, but you know, long-term relationship and I also have a kid. So it's been really hard

00:29:43.880 to do that. Um, the blended family, um, for us. So that's been quite a challenge, I would

00:29:52.380 say. Among other things. And, uh, among other things. So you said you took the ring off because

00:30:03.140 you guys are, were engaged. Yeah. I mean, technically. So how long have you had the ring

00:30:08.360 off? Um, recently, like a few days ago, a few days ago, but this is not the first time

00:30:14.780 I've taken it off. So. All right. Okay. Not the first time you've taken it off. No, it

00:30:19.380 isn't. What is there specific reason you guys are fighting? Um, yeah, things are just, um,

00:30:27.600 they're not, they're clashing, you know, and I would say that I don't feel like he necessarily

00:30:35.000 knows how to provide certain things that I've very vocally tried to, um, you know, get him

00:30:42.480 to provide as far as like emotional support goes, things like that. Cause like I said,

00:30:45.760 my life is at a pretty rocky moment. Um, and yeah, and he just doesn't get it. And, um,

00:30:52.360 he doesn't get it. He doesn't get it. There, there is also a cultural difference. So he's,

00:30:56.380 um, he's Bulgarian. Um, so he's from Bulgaria. So there, yeah, it's a, what's the difference?

00:31:05.460 Um, I think he was just raised very differently. Um, how so I have a way more traditional

00:31:15.600 understanding of love and relationships based on my, you know, personal life experience with

00:31:21.480 my parents, my grandparents, et cetera. Um, he also has his own kind of version of that

00:31:27.220 and it, and it's just very different and it's not necessarily wrong. It's just different.

00:31:31.300 And so we sort of clash in that, in that way.

00:31:34.500 Just a reminder for everyone, please don't read the chats as they come on the screen.

00:31:39.440 Okay. Um, okay. So you say he's not providing, you say he's not providing, um,

00:31:50.020 emotional support. What does that mean? You know, it's so funny. I think a lot of guys don't

00:31:59.800 necessarily know what that means. Um, it really just means to be present, like present, present,

00:32:05.940 like emotionally present, not just there's a, there's a very distinct difference between being

00:32:10.100 physically present and actually being emotionally present and saying, Hey, I recognize and acknowledge,

00:32:16.660 you know, what you're going through in your life. You know, my mom is very sick. Um, you know,

00:32:23.240 very sick. And, you know, my son is also having, you know, his, some of his own personal issues as

00:32:29.480 well. Teenager. Yeah, exactly. Difficult period. Totally. Totally. So I just really require a certain

00:32:36.640 level of support. And that's what I mean by that. And I'm just not receiving it at the moment. And I'm at

00:32:42.360 an age where, I mean, I don't have my biological clock ticking because, because once again, I already

00:32:47.700 have a child. So I'm, I'm okay with not having any more children, but marriage is impaired. Like that,

00:32:53.780 that is very important for me. And so we've been together for long enough where I feel like

00:32:58.800 it's either you do or you don't. And that's that. Oh, so he's, you guys have been, how long have you

00:33:05.740 guys been engaged? Since February of this year. Oh, okay. So wait, are you saying that he's not

00:33:13.480 wanting to pull the trigger on the actual marriage? Correct. Okay. Uh, and he's not providing you the

00:33:20.500 emotional support, uh, that you need at this moment. Okay. Yeah. Um,

00:33:26.940 Hmm. Hmm. Okay. Uh, we'll come back to that a little later, but okay. What about you? Um,

00:33:37.800 I'm currently single. My longest relationship was five, maybe five and a half years. Yeah. And it was

00:33:44.380 just my honestly high school boyfriend and he was not great. So, sorry, you've been single how long?

00:33:53.060 Um, since maybe three years ago. Yeah. Single for three years. Gotcha. Okay. Uh, who broke up with

00:34:02.800 who? The five-year relationship? I broke up with him. Broke up with him. Yeah. Was it ever on again,

00:34:06.760 off again, or was it pretty much just clean? It was on, on again, off again. Yes. How many times?

00:34:10.980 Um, I don't know, maybe five or six. And in each of those instances, was it always you ending it?

00:34:18.940 Um, no, it was the other times it was him mostly. Um, and I think part of it. All the other times.

00:34:26.780 Yeah. Except for the final one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Why would he break up with you five times?

00:34:31.300 I think part of it was maybe emotional manipulation, honestly. And I, I had a. How did you

00:34:36.500 emotionally manipulate him? No, he emotionally manipulated me. Did I get that in reverse?

00:34:41.160 I think, I think I was very attached and we met when I was very young and I was looking for marriage

00:34:49.460 and kids and family. Um, I took steps towards that and I just felt that he didn't over that time.

00:34:58.080 And you don't have any kids? No. Okay. No. So he didn't, he also didn't want that.

00:35:03.300 Yeah. He was just honestly abusive and yeah. Okay. And cheated on me in the end. Cheating.

00:35:11.900 So. Okay. Yeah. You said you met him when you were very young. Was he about the same age

00:35:16.760 as you or? He was four years older. So I was 17 and he was 21. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Is

00:35:25.340 that, this is in California, right? Yeah. Cause you're from California. Yeah. I'm pretty

00:35:29.420 sure that might've been a crime, but, um, I don't know. I know there's like Romeo and

00:35:35.240 Juliet, but I don't even think California has that. California. Not in California. Yeah.

00:35:40.260 So yeah. Okay. All right. A little, uh, so you were a junior in high school. Yeah. I was

00:35:47.580 a junior in high school and I was selling weed on college. No. So I took college classes since

00:35:53.840 I was 15 and a half cause my school didn't have AP classes. Okay. I went to sort of a charter

00:35:58.960 school that worked like a college. You go in twice a week, get your homework. And I supplemented

00:36:05.080 that with college courses at night. Okay. A little bit of a yikes there with, he was 21

00:36:12.160 and you were 17. A little bit of a yikes. A bit of a yikes, I guess. Uh, okay. And you

00:36:19.120 said he was abusive. Um, may I ask how so? Uh, emotionally, verbally, physically, physically.

00:36:25.280 Yeah. Okay. It got that way. All right. Uh, was that reciprocated? Um, honestly at the

00:36:32.920 beginning, yes, but to me at that time I would consider it more so like fighting back. Like

00:36:40.220 I would yell back at him and then I sort of got to a point where I grew a lot and I stopped

00:36:46.820 doing that, but he sort of continued with what he was doing. So, you know, he treated me badly

00:36:53.000 and I ended the relationship. Gotcha. Um, any police intervention at all where police

00:36:59.140 ever called for, cause you said it got physical a few times. So yeah, no. Okay. Um, and then

00:37:06.620 you've been single for three years, any, anything in that time period, like a situationship or,

00:37:12.640 um, not a situationship. I was in one other relationship during that time. So I've had two

00:37:17.740 boyfriends. Um, when did that end? That was last year around this time. How long had you

00:37:23.860 been dating the, this other guy? Um, maybe like three months, three months. Okay. Not

00:37:28.960 very long, but you guys did call each other boyfriend girlfriends. Okay. So you've been,

00:37:34.480 and you said earlier this year, uh, last year at this time. So a year ago. Yeah. Okay. So

00:37:39.280 you've been, we could say you've been single for one year instead of three, any besides this

00:37:44.780 three month guy. Has there been anything long or just him? Um, I sort of have gone on dates

00:37:51.060 and seen maybe one other guy, but not really, um, a boyfriend. All right. Gotcha. But you,

00:37:59.900 you've been dating and are you on any dating apps currently? I used to be, but I sort of had a bad

00:38:05.580 experience with that and I guess ended like my time on the apps. Fair enough. Did you put that in

00:38:12.820 the notes? Yeah, I did. I'll get, I'll get to that later. Okay. Okay, cool. Um, all right. So

00:38:19.140 single for one year, three years ish. And, uh, I had another question on this, but maybe it'll come

00:38:27.780 to me later. What about you? I've been single for all 19 years of my life. All 19 years. Girl

00:38:33.500 blasters. Yeah. I'm mad about it. Uh, keep it that way. Have you had a situationship? I mean,

00:38:40.180 of course, like never, never like an official boyfriend. No. Uh, what's the longest period of

00:38:46.160 time? I guess, regardless of how you would categorize it longest period of time, you've

00:38:50.360 seen a guy. Yeah. So I was exclusive to, um, a guy that I lived with for, um, in a co-ed

00:38:56.900 house for about six months, six months. Okay. Uh, but not boyfriend, girlfriend. No. And when you

00:39:03.060 say you were exclusive to him, are you saying it was one directional? No, it was, I mean, I'd hope it

00:39:09.100 was both directions though. Um, I don't know for sure. Well, did, did you guys ever have like any

00:39:15.260 overt conversation? Like, yeah, I mean, are we, they were definitely seeing each other people? Yeah. I mean,

00:39:21.200 we know that, um, we both knew that, um, we both knew that we didn't want to be like sleeping with

00:39:25.600 other people because it's just like our personal preference. So that's what we did, but there were

00:39:30.380 no labels or anything. Okay. Got it. And, uh, besides the six month, any, any other kind of

00:39:38.600 situationship? No. Two month, three month, one month? No. I mean, yeah, maybe a few weeks. A couple weeks.

00:39:44.620 Yeah. Okay. And with, there's, has there been a couple of these few week ones? Yeah. I'd say

00:39:50.800 two. Three, two, three. Okay. And, uh, they last what, two, three weeks? Yeah. And then is it, you lose

00:39:57.520 interest, they lose interest, mutual? I mean, one was they lost interest and the other one was I, um,

00:40:03.460 lost interest in the fact that they wanted other people, you know, all the time. Sure. The six month

00:40:11.200 one, who ended that? I'd say it was mutual. Um, we both were going to the same school and that's why it

00:40:18.800 was, um, um, exclusive, but he lives in Utah. So during the summer, it kind of got hard. I went

00:40:26.200 to see him in Utah and it all kind of like collapsed there. Wait, was, uh, the six month

00:40:32.300 one, was this here in Santa Barbara? Yes. Okay. I see. All right. Uh, any guys in the picture

00:40:38.360 currently? No. Nobody? No. Not even texting? Nope. A little sneaky link? Nothing? No, not

00:40:44.120 at all. Okay. And then for you, since you're also single, any guy in the picture right now?

00:40:48.720 Not right now. Nothing? No. Not even a little flirtation? Not a, you know, nothing? The guy

00:40:54.160 you, nothing? No. They're married to the bed. I'd rather be single than just date someone I'm

00:41:00.760 not going to marry. Preach. Uh, what about you? I'm single for all my life. So 20 years

00:41:07.740 now. Okay. Uh, longest anything? I've never been in a situation. Nothing. Okay. Uh, wait,

00:41:18.680 like a week? No. Not a week? No. Have you been on a date? No. Have you held hands with

00:41:24.760 a guy? No. No? First kiss? Yes. Oh, okay. First kiss. All right. Uh, okay. Um, like hookups,

00:41:35.160 anything like that? Yeah. I mean. Here and there? Yeah. I mean, college, you know. College

00:41:40.600 stuff. Um, but no boyfriend, no. No boyfriend, no situationship. Okay. With the hookups, have

00:41:46.520 you ever, like, is it just like a one-time thing or will you? One time. I've never. Never

00:41:51.620 done a two-for-one deal or what? No. That doesn't even make sense. What's the one that

00:42:00.800 you get? Um, uh, so it's a one and done. So you're like a little player, you know? Well,

00:42:07.360 like you're breaking these guys' hearts. I wouldn't. Like they're all trying to wife you

00:42:10.820 up and you're like, nah, I'm good. I wouldn't say that. Um, okay. I think, you know, kind of

00:42:18.380 what she said, um, there's been opportunities for people to, or men to take me out, but I

00:42:26.820 just, realist, like realistically, I don't think it would, those options would have worked.

00:42:33.120 Are these guys for the streets? Is that what you're telling me right now? We're dealing

00:42:37.560 with, we're dealing with college boys. So not everyone is, um, gotcha. Yeah. Okay. And

00:42:44.140 what about you? Um, I'm single. All right. How long have you been single? A year and a

00:42:49.140 half. Any guys in the picture currently? No. All right. A year and a half. Longest

00:42:54.120 relationship? Two years. Two years. Who broke up with who? Me. All right. Any ever

00:43:00.120 married? No. Any kids? No. All right. Um, and you're, I think in your notes, if I recall

00:43:08.600 correctly, you're celibate. Yes. You've been celibate for a year and a half? Yes. Okay. All

00:43:13.320 right. Uh, okay. Since my salvation, that, that's a year and a half ago. Tell us the

00:43:19.440 story on that really quick. So you like, you, something about in your notes, you, you went

00:43:24.220 to hell. Yes. Tell us that story if you can. Okay. Um, the long version or the short

00:43:31.020 one? Uh, short one. Give me one sec. I'm going to let this chat come through.

00:43:34.900 Adzils donated $200. Good man. Not a bad word on the King. I was worried. I thought

00:43:43.000 I'd have to come to Santa Barbara to stomp on your dumpy. All jokes aside. Oh, all is

00:43:48.660 well, Brian. Great run of shows recently. Yo, Adzils. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Uh,

00:43:55.300 it. What do you guys think? Yo, Adzils, you want me to ask the, do you guys like, I don't

00:44:00.260 know what, he's got some obsession with Michael Jackson, the King of Pop. Uh, do you guys

00:44:05.440 like Michael, MJ? Hell yeah. Of course. You guys like Michael Jackson? He's iconic. Oh,

00:44:09.200 Adzils most will tell you. Iconic, yeah. Does anybody know how to moon? No. Wait, what's

00:44:12.800 it called? Moon dance? Moonwalk. Moonwalk. No. Moonwalk. Anybody know how to moonwalk?

00:44:17.680 I can. Wait. I can two-step. No dancers here? No. No. I can throw down. Okay. Well. Like, I can

00:44:22.680 slam dance, but moonwalking, no. All right. Sorry, Adzils. I was going to see if anybody

00:44:27.340 can bust a moonwalk for you. Uh, yo, Jean, thank you for the, uh, looks like you bought

00:44:32.680 some merch here. And then, uh, Ray, no, it was Brooke. Brooke, thank you for the t-shirt

00:44:37.780 purchase. Thank you. Uh, go ahead with your, uh, your story. Okay. So essentially I was

00:44:42.720 on drugs. I did a lot of cocaine for two months of my life last year. Um, one night I just did

00:44:48.360 way too much and I actually died and I got sent to hell. Um, all I can say to

00:44:55.140 describe what hell was for me, because I do believe that hell is going to be

00:44:58.400 different based on everyone's life here on earth and the way that they sinned and

00:45:01.740 their weaknesses and everything. But for me, it was a dark black abyss of

00:45:06.060 nothingness. Um, demons were laughing all around me. I was being tortured. It was like

00:45:11.640 I was being held down and I couldn't move. It was just a whole blackness away from

00:45:18.420 consciousness. It was consciousness away from God is basically what I would

00:45:21.640 describe it as. Um, and while I was down there being tortured, it felt like

00:45:26.220 forever. Don't really know how long it was. Um, God's voice came in through the

00:45:31.320 darkness and said, you can wake up now. And when he spoke, the demons started to

00:45:35.420 tremble. Um, just like in the Bible, it says demons shake at the sound of his voice.

00:45:40.100 Right. So they started to tremble and I woke up on my bathroom floor. I still

00:45:45.220 thought I was dead. I walked around the house, like completely, like didn't even

00:45:50.320 know what was going on. And then when I got back to the bathroom, I looked into

00:45:54.400 the mirror, I saw blood on my face. I must've like cracked my face. I have a

00:45:58.020 scar actually. I must've cracked my, my face open on the, on the counter when I

00:46:02.440 went out and fell down. But the blood is how I realized I was still alive.

00:46:06.780 Damn. Yeah. Uh, so you, you OD basically. Yes. Damn crazy. Yes. Uh, so

00:46:14.300 you're, you've, were you religious before that or? Nope. Okay. But then you found

00:46:19.560 God, you found, you're a Christian. What denomination? I'd like to say more of a

00:46:24.060 charismatic Christian. What is that? I don't know what that is. Um, is that a

00:46:28.560 denomination or? Well, uh, so basically it's just, we're very into, um, the miracle

00:46:36.000 working power of Jesus and the Holy Spirit and, you know, deliverance, healing, uh,

00:46:42.440 speaking in tongues. Do you know, do you know how to speak in tongues? I mean, it's

00:46:48.080 a gift of the Holy Spirit, so. But you, you have the gift. Yes. Can we get a

00:46:53.080 demonstration? Can I ask something? Is it? Hold on, hold on. Can we get a

00:46:56.960 demonstration? Ah, you're going to put me on the spot like that. Go ahead.

00:47:01.680 Ha, she, kese, re, basa, namah, ta, she, kese, kere, basa, nanah, ta, she, kese,

00:47:07.620 siku, sata, ta, ta, shamanatata, swatata, ta, shakese.

00:47:12.460 Bars.

00:47:18.600 Bars.

00:47:19.760 Nice. Okay. Uh, yeah.

00:47:22.400 I totally understood everything you just said. Um. So you can interpretate the

00:47:26.200 tongues. I'm an interpreter. I interpret. I'm an interpreter.

00:47:29.940 You have a question?

00:47:32.340 Oh, I just wanted to know if it was similar, the charismatic Christian, to like Foursquare, like Pentecostal.

00:47:39.240 Pentecostal, yeah.

00:47:39.860 That's how I grew up as well.

00:47:42.960 Okay.

00:47:44.720 Interesting.

00:47:45.680 And do you consider yourself, so you're born again?

00:47:48.440 Yeah.

00:47:49.760 Were you ever, do you have to be Christian first to become born again?

00:47:54.520 I don't know.

00:47:55.240 You're born again?

00:47:55.980 Are you born again Christian?

00:47:57.060 Is that what it's called?

00:47:57.460 Born again is just you're dying to your old self and you're reborn with Christ.

00:48:01.420 You could be a Christian before and then be born again.

00:48:04.920 I see.

00:48:05.740 Are you a born again virgin?

00:48:08.880 I was, I had no religious background prior.

00:48:12.040 No, but like, are you, now are you a born again virgin?

00:48:16.000 Oh, well.

00:48:17.020 Is that how that works?

00:48:18.040 I don't know.

00:48:18.640 I mean, I get, not really.

00:48:20.460 Well, because you've been celibated.

00:48:21.640 Are you waiting until marriage?

00:48:23.540 Yes.

00:48:24.420 Waiting until marriage.

00:48:25.440 Okay.

00:48:25.660 Yes.

00:48:26.960 Gotcha.

00:48:27.460 Now, it doesn't like wipe away everything that I've done.

00:48:30.680 Which is what?

00:48:31.360 Which, you know, well, I have my OnlyFans.

00:48:34.340 You used to do OnlyFans.

00:48:35.400 Yeah.

00:48:35.680 But you stopped a year and a half ago?

00:48:37.940 Nope.

00:48:38.080 Or, when did you stop?

00:48:39.780 So, it took me a few months after becoming a Christian to actually shut down the page.

00:48:44.660 It wasn't like.

00:48:45.320 Okay.

00:48:45.920 I see.

00:48:46.420 You know, it changed like that.

00:48:47.560 And then just curious, I actually, nobody else here does OF, OnlyFans, any like sex work stuff?

00:48:55.820 Okay.

00:48:56.200 So, nobody here, I mean, you did it in the past.

00:48:58.460 I'm just going to say, don't do it.

00:49:00.680 I can be your role model.

00:49:03.180 You did it in the past, but you don't do it anymore.

00:49:05.700 So, nobody here does any of that stuff.

00:49:07.720 Okay.

00:49:07.920 Cool.

00:49:08.980 Sweet.

00:49:09.440 Nobody on the panel does OF.

00:49:11.400 All right.

00:49:11.960 Rock and roll.

00:49:12.480 So, that's everybody's relationship status.

00:49:15.180 We're going to dive right into the show here.

00:49:18.940 Let's see.

00:49:21.280 Where do we begin?

00:49:25.800 The matchmaking stuff.

00:49:27.080 I want to touch on that.

00:49:27.880 How did I know?

00:49:28.940 I want to touch on that.

00:49:30.720 So, I think we've had one or two matchmakers on the show before.

00:49:35.480 You said you've been doing matchmaking for five years, is it?

00:49:38.720 Yes.

00:49:39.220 And you work with quite a variety of clientele.

00:49:42.760 Most of your male, is it primarily men?

00:49:46.200 It's predominantly men, yes.

00:49:47.940 Okay.

00:49:48.140 We do have some female clients as well.

00:49:50.640 And so, basically, somebody comes to you, hey, dating apps suck, dating sucks, help me

00:49:56.980 out, basically.

00:49:57.860 You know?

00:49:58.280 I'd rather be set up.

00:50:02.180 Let's see.

00:50:02.800 Hold on.

00:50:04.140 Okay.

00:50:04.680 I'm just finding your notes here.

00:50:06.740 And you're also a dating coach, too.

00:50:08.660 So, you're a professional matchmaker and a dating coach.

00:50:10.780 Yes.

00:50:12.080 I mean, my first...

00:50:13.260 Actually, wait, before I get into that.

00:50:14.720 Okay.

00:50:16.880 Actually, no.

00:50:17.500 We'll just dive in.

00:50:18.140 If somebody tells me they're a matchmaker and a dating coach, the question that it always

00:50:25.120 begets is, why aren't you married?

00:50:30.120 I know you're engaged, but...

00:50:32.080 No, that's a valid question.

00:50:34.920 Honestly, I just had a really unconventional start.

00:50:37.700 Like I said, I met the father of my son very young.

00:50:44.680 I actually did not date in high school.

00:50:47.680 I was a professional.

00:50:49.580 I was pursuing professional modeling.

00:50:51.480 I was kind of getting my career going.

00:50:53.720 And then, lo and behold, I met my now ex.

00:50:57.660 And it was kind of a whirlwind, to be honest.

00:51:02.020 And I was young.

00:51:02.800 I was 18, 19 years old.

00:51:05.040 You know, what do you know at that age?

00:51:06.760 Girl, I don't know anything.

00:51:07.640 Like, honestly.

00:51:08.880 No, but like, honestly, you're just like ignorant.

00:51:11.020 And I would say that I was raised in like a very extremely like sheltered household.

00:51:17.140 Like my, excuse me, my dad was, you know, the breadwinner.

00:51:20.480 My mom basically oversaw everything else.

00:51:23.200 And she is Latin.

00:51:24.900 So she was very like present, but almost suffocatingly so.

00:51:31.380 So I didn't...

00:51:31.840 Puerto Rican, correct?

00:51:33.040 Dominican, Puerto Rican.

00:51:34.300 Yeah, both, both.

00:51:36.100 Same thing with Eastern European parents.

00:51:37.740 They're suffocating.

00:51:38.960 Yeah.

00:51:39.380 They're right at you.

00:51:40.240 My mom's Romanian, Moldovan.

00:51:41.600 I mean, God, God love her.

00:51:42.820 And I know she meant like super well by it.

00:51:44.820 But, you know, when you're raised in like an extremely sheltered household, a lot of times

00:51:51.260 you tend to rebel.

00:51:52.200 And that's kind of what I did.

00:51:53.660 And so I met like the probably worst candidate of a person for me.

00:51:59.500 And, and like I said, it was like this whirlwind.

00:52:04.340 And yeah, I met him through my best friend at the time who I had known since kindergarten.

00:52:11.920 She was like, yeah, she was like a sister to me.

00:52:15.140 So yeah.

00:52:16.440 And then the rest is history.

00:52:18.260 So that's why I'm not married.

00:52:20.160 I, it's, I just, I was young and dumb, honestly.

00:52:23.940 Okay.

00:52:25.160 You also in your notes, you say you've turned down a handful of billionaires and very, very

00:52:31.100 wealthy, high level executives.

00:52:33.700 You say some of them are very down to earth and act like regular people.

00:52:36.760 Money and power only changes people if you allow it to.

00:52:39.940 And it certainly doesn't equate to happiness or having an easier time.

00:52:43.480 Yes.

00:52:43.860 Finding love.

00:52:44.880 Um, you say some of your clients want and try to date you, uh, you're flattered, but you've

00:52:54.580 always kept things professional, never crossed that boundary.

00:52:57.260 Never.

00:52:57.600 Um, on the billionaires though.

00:52:59.400 So you, when you say you've turned down a handful of billionaires and they're very wealthy,

00:53:03.520 high level executives, you're talking as clients or you're talking as men who are interested

00:53:09.440 in you?

00:53:10.260 Both.

00:53:10.900 Both.

00:53:11.360 Okay.

00:53:11.460 Both.

00:53:11.900 Yeah.

00:53:12.040 Um, really quick though.

00:53:14.040 So for, from the client angle, just why would you turn someone down?

00:53:18.300 Are they like, they smell bad or something?

00:53:20.220 No, not at all.

00:53:21.200 No, honestly, most of, um, the clients that I've worked with have actually been a pleasure

00:53:25.900 to work with for the most part.

00:53:27.720 Of course you always have, you know, the stragglers.

00:53:30.360 There's always the exceptions to the rule, but to be honest, I've had really, really good,

00:53:34.060 um, relationships with my clients.

00:53:37.140 It's just, it's just ethics.

00:53:38.640 As far as I go, I just don't ethically feel good.

00:53:41.080 Sorry, when I say, uh, like you've turned down a client, not for dating, but as your

00:53:46.760 client, you turn them down.

00:53:49.120 No, no.

00:53:49.680 I don't want to work with you.

00:53:51.140 That's what I mean.

00:53:51.580 No, I, I keep them as clients.

00:53:53.360 I just, yeah, yeah.

00:53:54.640 I see.

00:53:55.080 Okay.

00:53:55.360 So moving, sure, sure, sure.

00:53:56.720 Moving off of the clients then, uh, just purely romantically, not even clients.

00:54:01.020 You've turned down a handful of billionaires.

00:54:03.740 So I wouldn't say there's been at least two.

00:54:09.280 And then, and then there have been extremely high level executives for like billion dollar

00:54:16.000 industries that I have also turned down.

00:54:19.780 Yes, I have.

00:54:21.420 Okay.

00:54:21.960 Gotcha.

00:54:22.620 Yeah.

00:54:22.800 You turned down a billionaire.

00:54:24.020 I swear.

00:54:24.740 Yeah.

00:54:25.000 I have the proof.

00:54:26.140 Yeah.

00:54:26.520 I have.

00:54:26.940 Shit.

00:54:28.260 Yeah.

00:54:28.620 I feel like I would, like what, why, you know, just the, you know, wasn't feeling it.

00:54:33.960 It's not.

00:54:34.460 I would, if a, if a girl billionaire was like hitting me up, you know, I'd, I'd probably

00:54:39.500 feel it.

00:54:40.080 I'd say go for it.

00:54:41.140 I'd probably feel it, you know, although there are all the female billionaires are a bit

00:54:46.460 on the older side, you know, well, I guess the male billionaires are too.

00:54:49.840 So for me, um, it's not about money, status, power.

00:54:56.320 Um, it's not, no, it's, it's honestly not.

00:54:59.240 No, I really, I really truly care about like, like how, like how the person is like their

00:55:05.800 values, their morals, like where they come from, how they grew up.

00:55:09.820 Can we have, you know, long, intimate conversations, things like that.

00:55:15.100 Like I, I, and I care about looks as well.

00:55:17.260 I'm not going to lie.

00:55:18.080 Looks important.

00:55:18.720 The looks are very important for me.

00:55:20.440 Yeah.

00:55:20.700 Yeah.

00:55:21.140 Assuming they're a good person, let's say they're a billionaire.

00:55:23.580 They're a good person.

00:55:24.420 Yeah.

00:55:24.980 But you don't like, they're not abusive.

00:55:27.460 They're not going to mistreat you.

00:55:28.540 Yeah.

00:55:29.060 But you mentioned you want to have those long, deep, deep convos.

00:55:34.660 Yeah.

00:55:34.980 What if everything else about them, I'm not saying they're perfect, but they're good.

00:55:39.260 Okay.

00:55:40.080 But they, you can't have long, deep convos with them, but they're a billionaire.

00:55:44.580 Do you take the trade?

00:55:45.340 It really depends on the, the person.

00:55:51.300 It really depends.

00:55:52.040 They're a good person, but you're never going to have some deep philosophical convo.

00:55:55.860 You know, you just.

00:55:56.620 Can I tell you something?

00:55:58.440 Sure.

00:55:59.400 My current partner, I don't have deep philosophical conversations.

00:56:02.360 Oh, okay.

00:56:02.880 Is he a billionaire?

00:56:03.740 He's not.

00:56:04.460 Oh, well, shit.

00:56:05.340 Okay.

00:56:05.520 Then there you go.

00:56:06.200 Okay.

00:56:06.320 So, so to be clear then, if you can't have those, you would, you would date a billionaire?

00:56:10.720 Yeah, of course.

00:56:11.480 Because it's, yeah, I would.

00:56:12.980 Because I don't know, some people say.

00:56:14.300 Yeah, no, I would make the trade.

00:56:15.360 Sure.

00:56:15.840 Okay.

00:56:16.200 I'd do that trade.

00:56:17.620 Like I'm dating a female.

00:56:18.720 I'm literally currently experiencing it.

00:56:20.060 So, yeah.

00:56:20.960 Dating a female billionaire, but.

00:56:22.820 Although he's not a billionaire.

00:56:23.820 Although truth be told.

00:56:25.240 Sorry.

00:56:26.140 Even if she worked at Chick-fil-A and there was a lack of capacity for really deep convos,

00:56:32.480 I think I'd be okay.

00:56:33.680 I think I'd be fine.

00:56:35.040 But, all right.

00:56:37.100 So, how does that go when you turn down a billionaire?

00:56:39.880 Is it on their private jet or in.

00:56:41.660 No, no.

00:56:43.060 Where do you typically turn them down?

00:56:46.160 Literally via.

00:56:47.400 Oh, text.

00:56:48.280 Text or.

00:56:49.380 Yeah.

00:56:49.600 You know, I just politely decline.

00:56:51.480 I'm never.

00:56:52.120 I'm never disrespectful.

00:56:54.920 Respectful.

00:56:55.520 I always maintain a level of respect and professionalism.

00:56:58.960 I mean, that's very important in anything you do.

00:57:01.400 But, ultimately, yeah.

00:57:03.020 You just have to sort of set the line and the boundary.

00:57:06.080 And that's that.

00:57:06.760 So.

00:57:08.180 And my partner knows all about this.

00:57:09.540 Just that.

00:57:09.780 Wait, question.

00:57:10.400 The billionaires that you did.

00:57:12.660 Yeah.

00:57:13.380 Reject.

00:57:13.980 Yeah.

00:57:14.720 Were they like terrible people?

00:57:16.460 No, not at all.

00:57:17.660 They were.

00:57:18.340 No.

00:57:18.700 Chill?

00:57:19.200 Yeah.

00:57:20.100 Yeah.

00:57:20.520 And they were like trying to like date you?

00:57:23.480 Yeah.

00:57:23.660 For real?

00:57:24.260 For real.

00:57:24.540 For realsies?

00:57:26.100 I swear.

00:57:27.460 Yes.

00:57:28.100 No, no.

00:57:28.360 I believe you.

00:57:28.840 I'm just saying like.

00:57:29.400 Yes.

00:57:29.680 They were.

00:57:30.260 Okay.

00:57:31.200 Yes.

00:57:31.960 And you turned down a billionaire?

00:57:33.560 There's like.

00:57:34.740 Yes.

00:57:35.460 That's rare though.

00:57:36.200 I literally.

00:57:36.620 I can show you that.

00:57:37.240 That's like.

00:57:37.760 Yeah.

00:57:38.680 Yeah.

00:57:39.020 You marry a billionaire.

00:57:41.200 No, because it's not.

00:57:42.040 It's like.

00:57:42.340 Because.

00:57:42.800 Thousand year dynasty levels of wealth.

00:57:45.760 You know.

00:57:46.300 When you think.

00:57:46.720 Never have to work.

00:57:47.580 Can I say something?

00:57:48.620 When you think of billionaire.

00:57:49.720 You think of.

00:57:51.180 Oh my God.

00:57:51.960 This person has Boku money.

00:57:53.760 And Boku this.

00:57:54.600 And Boku that.

00:57:55.320 And clout.

00:57:55.980 Etc.

00:57:56.500 And.

00:57:57.060 And they do.

00:57:57.720 A lot of the times.

00:57:58.620 Obviously.

00:57:59.040 They're a billionaire.

00:58:00.080 Yeah.

00:58:00.560 However.

00:58:01.200 That doesn't necessarily equate.

00:58:03.280 And I think a lot of people.

00:58:04.400 Like get this wrong.

00:58:05.460 But like.

00:58:06.060 Just because you have.

00:58:07.680 Wealth and affluence.

00:58:08.820 And influence.

00:58:10.120 Yeah.

00:58:10.360 Doesn't necessarily equate to.

00:58:12.520 Being generous.

00:58:13.660 Being.

00:58:14.360 You know.

00:58:14.780 Wanting to share that with somebody.

00:58:17.060 And for me.

00:58:18.460 You know.

00:58:19.280 Like.

00:58:20.500 You're in it together.

00:58:22.020 You know.

00:58:22.720 So.

00:58:23.640 Wait.

00:58:23.900 So.

00:58:25.460 You've been on dates with billionaires.

00:58:27.240 And they're trying to split the check.

00:58:28.780 Or.

00:58:29.300 Um.

00:58:30.640 W.

00:58:31.000 That's such a power move.

00:58:33.320 Like imagine being a billionaire.

00:58:35.180 No.

00:58:35.460 Not.

00:58:35.780 Not split the check.

00:58:36.840 No.

00:58:37.240 No.

00:58:37.540 It's never that.

00:58:38.360 But.

00:58:38.660 But.

00:58:39.940 Um.

00:58:40.740 The one that I'm specifically referring to now with you.

00:58:44.760 Literally was like.

00:58:45.860 Oh.

00:58:46.180 Yeah.

00:58:46.680 Um.

00:58:46.940 50-50.

00:58:47.920 Uh.

00:58:48.460 You know.

00:58:49.200 I.

00:58:49.620 Uh.

00:58:49.860 I don't.

00:58:50.740 What is.

00:58:51.140 What did he say?

00:58:51.740 He was like.

00:58:52.140 I.

00:58:53.020 I'll.

00:58:53.400 I'll help you with your business.

00:58:55.560 But like.

00:58:56.600 That's.

00:58:57.060 As far as it goes.

00:58:58.000 So.

00:58:58.260 Like.

00:58:58.400 He wanted to maintain.

00:58:59.520 Like a very.

00:59:00.120 Distinct line.

00:59:02.780 Between.

00:59:03.880 Between.

00:59:04.600 Like.

00:59:05.020 So he wasn't interested in marriage?

00:59:06.820 Is that?

00:59:07.000 No.

00:59:07.300 And he wasn't interested in marriage.

00:59:08.740 And that was like.

00:59:09.500 The deal breaker of all deal breakers.

00:59:11.180 Oh.

00:59:11.920 Okay.

00:59:12.660 Yeah.

00:59:12.680 I think generosity has nothing to do with.

00:59:14.480 How much is in your bank account.

00:59:15.580 I think it truly comes from the spirit.

00:59:16.800 Because when I had no money to spend.

00:59:18.360 To buy flowers.

00:59:19.560 For my partner.

00:59:20.840 I literally went down the street.

00:59:22.040 And handpicked my favorite bouquets.

00:59:23.420 And gave it to him.

00:59:24.000 And the same exact thing goes.

00:59:25.140 I don't think your status financially.

00:59:28.520 Has anything to do with your heart.

00:59:31.180 And your innate sense of generosity.

00:59:33.060 Then again.

00:59:33.700 What do I.

00:59:34.840 That's absolutely.

00:59:35.780 Adzils donated $200.

00:59:38.140 W panel.

00:59:39.140 Thank you man.

00:59:39.500 No only fans.

00:59:40.880 They love Michael.

00:59:42.040 Can't complain.

00:59:43.440 Kind of cool.

00:59:44.400 Chair four is a dating coach.

00:59:46.440 Would have been cool to see Ji Kwon here.

00:59:48.580 Since he's won two.

00:59:50.780 Yeah.

00:59:51.260 We'll get him back soon.

00:59:52.160 Thank you Adzils.

00:59:52.820 Appreciate the TTS.

00:59:53.640 By the way.

00:59:55.220 I totally agree with you.

00:59:56.260 Absolutely.

00:59:56.820 On the money.

00:59:57.420 Yes.

00:59:58.420 Yes.

00:59:59.100 No pun intended.

01:00:00.200 Pun intended.

01:00:01.120 Pun totally intended.

01:00:01.560 The pun was intended.

01:00:02.660 Yes.

01:00:03.600 Yeah.

01:00:04.340 Wait so.

01:00:06.960 But I mean like.

01:00:08.520 You look perplexed.

01:00:10.940 Why.

01:00:12.200 Are you sure they weren't just like.

01:00:13.640 Trying to do something casual.

01:00:16.400 Potent.

01:00:16.800 You know.

01:00:17.100 Honestly.

01:00:17.580 Potentially.

01:00:18.200 I'm not going to say that.

01:00:19.360 That wasn't the case.

01:00:20.280 I mean.

01:00:21.140 I was propositioned.

01:00:24.020 As a.

01:00:26.760 As a person that they.

01:00:28.040 They literally asked.

01:00:29.080 If they could date me.

01:00:30.220 So.

01:00:30.560 I don't think it was necessarily casual.

01:00:32.440 However.

01:00:33.340 However.

01:00:34.340 I.

01:00:35.200 Made the specification.

01:00:36.600 That marriage.

01:00:37.560 Was.

01:00:38.180 An extremely important.

01:00:39.500 Factor.

01:00:39.940 Non-negotiable for me.

01:00:41.260 And then.

01:00:41.820 They very transparently.

01:00:42.960 Said that that wasn't on the table.

01:00:44.420 For them.

01:00:45.100 So.

01:00:45.640 I mean.

01:00:46.020 Everything was super transparent.

01:00:47.520 And open.

01:00:48.780 Yeah.

01:00:49.340 And how many.

01:00:49.900 You said a handful of billionaires.

01:00:51.100 So was it two.

01:00:51.780 Three.

01:00:52.120 Four.

01:00:52.380 Five.

01:00:54.520 Less than four.

01:00:56.120 More than two.

01:00:58.060 Okay.

01:00:58.820 So three.

01:00:59.860 Yeah.

01:01:00.300 Yeah.

01:01:00.840 Yeah.

01:01:01.340 Give or take.

01:01:02.000 Yeah.

01:01:02.980 Okay.

01:01:04.140 Turn down.

01:01:06.220 I'm trying to think.

01:01:07.040 What kind of trade off.

01:01:07.840 You know what.

01:01:08.180 This is a good segue.

01:01:09.340 Opening it up to the rest of the panel here.

01:01:11.620 I know a lot of you are currently in college.

01:01:13.520 I'm sure most of you have career ambitions of some sort of or the other.

01:01:20.940 Assuming this billionaire is a good person.

01:01:25.000 But you know I don't want to maximize all the potential traits.

01:01:29.260 So good person treats you well.

01:01:33.740 You know maybe nobody's perfect.

01:01:35.480 But he's a billionaire.

01:01:36.220 And you like him.

01:01:39.180 He likes you.

01:01:39.960 You guys are dating.

01:01:40.900 Whatever.

01:01:41.940 Here's the trade off though.

01:01:47.620 You get to be with a billionaire.

01:01:49.060 You get to marry a billionaire.

01:01:50.220 But he says.

01:01:53.200 I don't want you.

01:01:54.380 I know some of you are first year.

01:01:56.080 Second year in school.

01:01:57.220 He wants you to drop out of school.

01:02:00.540 And he doesn't want you to work.

01:02:02.540 He's rich.

01:02:03.360 You don't need to work.

01:02:04.260 Right.

01:02:05.560 But you're going to go.

01:02:06.660 Work from some corporation.

01:02:07.920 Make 70K.

01:02:08.940 Essentially offer you like the trad life stream.

01:02:11.980 A little closer to the mic if you're speaking please.

01:02:13.900 But yes.

01:02:14.560 Got you.

01:02:15.160 So.

01:02:17.580 If you have hobbies.

01:02:18.820 You can still do them.

01:02:20.580 But you can't like.

01:02:22.180 If you're in music.

01:02:23.480 You can't pursue it as a career.

01:02:24.900 You can do it as a hobby.

01:02:26.680 But no career.

01:02:28.000 No college.

01:02:29.240 Marry a billionaire.

01:02:30.540 Do you take the trade?

01:02:31.620 Hell no.

01:02:32.680 Hell no?

01:02:33.320 No.

01:02:33.840 No?

01:02:34.600 No.

01:02:34.980 No?

01:02:35.940 Yeah.

01:02:36.680 Yep.

01:02:37.280 So I can't monetize anything.

01:02:40.660 I mean why though?

01:02:41.680 He's a billionaire.

01:02:42.320 He's a billionaire.

01:02:43.680 My hobbies include turning my lifestyle into businesses.

01:02:48.000 Honestly.

01:02:48.800 Yeah.

01:02:49.060 I actually have a couple different ones.

01:02:51.360 What do you mean your lifestyle?

01:02:52.860 So I own a classic car.

01:02:54.900 And I turn that into a car rental business.

01:02:57.740 Where I rent out my car and other people's classic cars around San Diego.

01:03:02.620 Oh yeah.

01:03:03.140 That shit.

01:03:03.980 I mean you can collect.

01:03:05.320 You can have your own private collection of amazing cars.

01:03:08.620 And assuming you're being a billionaire.

01:03:10.160 Every single car you could possibly ever want you could possess.

01:03:14.460 But no you can't rent out.

01:03:16.320 Why do you want fucking random people farting in your car?

01:03:19.400 Sitting in your car.

01:03:20.240 It's just for photo shoots and it's like their special moment in their life.

01:03:24.000 Like it's fun.

01:03:25.180 It's you know.

01:03:25.820 There's other people who do that.

01:03:27.320 They can see somebody else.

01:03:28.880 But not you.

01:03:30.060 Do you take the trade?

01:03:30.940 No.

01:03:31.780 Don't take the trade?

01:03:32.720 Wait.

01:03:32.960 Hold on.

01:03:33.520 Really quick.

01:03:34.420 What are some of the other lifestyle things?

01:03:36.560 Is it just that?

01:03:37.100 I sell vintage clothing online.

01:03:39.520 Oh yeah.

01:03:40.060 Yeah.

01:03:40.300 So you go thrift shopping and sell it?

01:03:41.880 I just enjoy making businesses out of things.

01:03:44.980 Like I had a shopping addiction honestly when I was younger.

01:03:47.700 And I turned that into a clothing business.

01:03:49.460 Sure.

01:03:49.760 Where now it cash flows.

01:03:51.040 So if I buy things and you know don't use them anymore.

01:03:54.600 I turn it into cash.

01:03:56.820 Are you a depop?

01:03:57.980 Depop.

01:03:58.340 Yeah.

01:04:01.280 Sorry go ahead.

01:04:02.080 No.

01:04:03.040 I wouldn't take it.

01:04:04.300 What about you?

01:04:05.180 I would say no.

01:04:06.480 Well don't take the trade.

01:04:07.440 What about you?

01:04:08.080 Did you take the trade?

01:04:10.300 Is he a follower of Jesus on the narrow path to eternal life?

01:04:13.680 Ma.

01:04:14.140 He's Christian.

01:04:14.860 Is he Christian?

01:04:15.940 Like following or just believing?

01:04:18.860 Wait here.

01:04:19.380 Speak.

01:04:19.940 Try to be straight with the mic.

01:04:20.980 Okay.

01:04:23.580 He's equally yoked.

01:04:25.760 Oh.

01:04:26.920 I like that you know the terminology.

01:04:29.300 So yes?

01:04:29.840 Yeah.

01:04:30.360 Okay.

01:04:30.700 So yes.

01:04:31.440 Yes.

01:04:32.080 The rest of you no.

01:04:33.320 Interesting.

01:04:34.700 Interesting.

01:04:35.180 Interesting.

01:04:35.620 Okay.

01:04:36.160 So why?

01:04:38.800 Starting with.

01:04:40.060 Actually we'll go this direction.

01:04:41.700 Why?

01:04:42.880 I don't feel comfortable having someone hold me back that much.

01:04:46.740 If I enjoy making money it excites me more than spending money honestly.

01:04:51.520 So if that's the only thing they can offer is their money and kindness then that just wouldn't

01:05:00.260 do it for me if my partner is holding me back.

01:05:02.960 Well I suppose they would offer you some of the other positive traits that you would desire in a person.

01:05:08.340 Right.

01:05:08.560 But the trade off is just you can't work.

01:05:13.580 I personally enjoy working and I do.

01:05:17.680 Do you have a job currently?

01:05:19.260 I own a clothing brand.

01:05:21.400 So I've been hand making clothes since I was 14 and I've been selling them online ever since.

01:05:27.160 Okay.

01:05:27.600 What about you?

01:05:28.520 You said no.

01:05:29.160 I said no because not even with holding someone back from working I'd love not to work ever again.

01:05:35.940 It's more of the power of like the fact he could change his mind or find something better and then I'm just stuck.

01:05:43.800 Well let's assume does it change anything if you in the hypothetical you know he stays with you.

01:05:53.540 Does that change anything?

01:05:54.400 Possibly yes.

01:05:59.000 Possibly.

01:05:59.620 Yeah if I know that it's going to be a forever thing then.

01:06:04.200 Well let's say it's even five years.

01:06:07.420 Even five years.

01:06:08.240 Yeah I'd do five years.

01:06:08.960 That's a lot of money you're going to get in the.

01:06:10.680 What's that?

01:06:11.400 I'd do it for five years.

01:06:12.880 She'd actually prefer five years because she can get the money.

01:06:15.140 Then I'll go back.

01:06:15.960 And then she can do whatever she wants.

01:06:16.920 No so I guess then the hypothetical would have to grant you he stays with you forever but you stay with him forever.

01:06:25.720 So it's not like no loophole where well okay I divorce him in five years and then I get to do my career in college and all that stuff.

01:06:33.800 I do.

01:06:34.240 If it's for infinity.

01:06:36.360 Infinity.

01:06:37.080 Yeah.

01:06:37.500 I'll say yeah.

01:06:39.000 You do it.

01:06:39.560 You take the trade.

01:06:40.380 Okay I see.

01:06:41.240 The concern there was I see.

01:06:42.820 The cut off.

01:06:44.380 Why you said no.

01:06:45.500 Why not?

01:06:46.220 I think no because it's kind of a part of my personality honestly.

01:06:51.580 Renting out cars?

01:06:53.540 Not just cars but I just love business.

01:06:55.900 I love working.

01:06:57.260 I think it's enjoyable.

01:06:58.700 It's part of your identity.

01:06:59.740 And it's something I'd want to do but I would honestly take yeah a five year break or like ten year break to raise kids or something like that.

01:07:07.060 But I enjoy it.

01:07:09.220 Okay.

01:07:09.560 And I think he would be supportive of that.

01:07:12.080 What about you?

01:07:14.180 I really want to work.

01:07:15.340 Like that's something like I see for myself like doing it like most of my life and I think it'll be like fun and I want to help people so.

01:07:22.500 And you said you wanted to be a psychologist?

01:07:24.700 Yeah.

01:07:24.880 Right?

01:07:25.200 Okay.

01:07:26.200 All right.

01:07:26.800 Want to work.

01:07:27.460 What about you?

01:07:28.000 I want to build a life for myself.

01:07:29.560 I want, I love learning so if I didn't have college then I would just be stuck.

01:07:36.080 And I think that building your own career is so rewarding and being successful enough to support yourself and support those you love is so important to me.

01:07:46.020 But assuming in this situation, in the hypothetical, you would stay with this person for your whole life, wouldn't you be able to manifest these things through the wealth of your husband?

01:07:57.940 I want to build it myself.

01:07:59.880 I don't need someone else doing that for me.

01:08:01.480 Wait, what do you want to do for work again?

01:08:02.680 You said sales.

01:08:03.560 Um, I'm.

01:08:04.840 You said medical.

01:08:05.940 Medical device sales.

01:08:06.680 Device sales.

01:08:07.780 I am also, I'm like on the fence.

01:08:09.520 I don't know exactly what I want to do.

01:08:11.320 I know I want to help people.

01:08:12.460 Does that require a lot of traveling or can you stay local?

01:08:15.660 Um, it depends where you, it depends where you're at.

01:08:18.540 Like if you're in a major city, maybe like LA, you could maybe stay local.

01:08:21.340 Yeah, for sure.

01:08:22.300 There's probably traveling medical device sales people.

01:08:24.860 Right.

01:08:25.120 Um, do you think that like when you're 60 or 70, 80, whatever.

01:08:33.360 You're on your deathbed.

01:08:36.460 You think you're, you're going to look back at life and be like, man, that one time I sold that MRI machine.

01:08:44.580 That was the pinnacle of fulfillment in my, it's like, I sold that fucking MRI machine and I, you know, he gave me this rebuttal and then I, he raised this objection and I countered it with my sales tactics.

01:09:00.300 It's not just that though.

01:09:01.620 What is it?

01:09:02.280 What is the ultimate fulfillment of medical device sales?

01:09:06.520 Okay.

01:09:06.940 So someone I know who's in medical device sales, she works for a company that takes placentas to use them as arm grafts.

01:09:13.700 Like that is, it's a life-saving thing.

01:09:16.280 And being able to bring that into other hospitals to help people who don't have access to that, like currently, I think is so important.

01:09:24.860 And obviously not just, you know, the placentas, there's other technology.

01:09:29.660 But I think expanding on that and furthering that is really important.

01:09:35.060 Okay.

01:09:36.140 What about you?

01:09:38.220 See, don't get me wrong.

01:09:39.260 I understand that historically there always have been divine masculine and feminine roles that naturally we fall into.

01:09:45.280 And maybe us being at our young age and also having like a Gen Z mindset of hyper-independence, the girl boss mentality.

01:09:54.020 I don't think that's fundamentally wrong because I think we all should embody that.

01:09:57.940 But I think it also should be a role of a man.

01:10:00.380 And I can say this firsthand.

01:10:02.140 For example, the first time I ever had a door held open for me, I resisted it.

01:10:07.600 This is with my current partner.

01:10:08.920 I was like, stop, bro.

01:10:10.120 Let me be like a hyper-independent, strong woman in peace.

01:10:12.560 I think it is part of a man's job to break that.

01:10:14.720 Now, I agree with all these people.

01:10:16.640 I want to build a life for myself.

01:10:18.120 And I don't like being given things without working for them.

01:10:21.320 I don't think autonomy should be assigned a gender.

01:10:25.520 You know what I mean?

01:10:26.120 But then again, when I'm 80 years old and I got my cottage in the middle of like rural Colorado with the love of my life and we're tending the goats, hell yeah.

01:10:35.800 I'll take care of my grandkids.

01:10:37.440 You can go work the fields.

01:10:39.360 I'm going to go milk the goats.

01:10:40.440 You know, but I like the idea of harmony.

01:10:43.260 I don't think this is necessarily so black and white.

01:10:46.020 Like I need to be entire.

01:10:47.300 Isn't that the point of a relationship, unity and harmony?

01:10:49.680 Like I said, I might be too young.

01:10:51.760 But my ideal life would be building a business with somebody.

01:10:55.080 Pursuing a creative endeavor or a financial endeavor with somebody.

01:11:00.040 In my case, it would be traveling the world or pursuing something that we aspire together as one.

01:11:06.500 Now, if we have.

01:11:06.880 Just really quick.

01:11:07.660 We got food for everybody.

01:11:09.500 Anybody not want pizza?

01:11:11.580 And is anybody like vegetarian?

01:11:13.160 Thank you.

01:11:13.860 You want pizza?

01:11:14.820 Yeah, I do.

01:11:15.420 Everybody pizza?

01:11:16.160 Thumbs up, thumbs up.

01:11:16.900 I do, yeah.

01:11:17.600 Pizza.

01:11:18.320 You're good.

01:11:19.740 Chair five, no pizza, please.

01:11:21.460 Okay, so my follow-up question is this.

01:11:27.920 So most of you won't trade your college, career, educational ambitions for a billionaire.

01:11:36.100 What about this, though?

01:11:37.700 Would, if, hypothetically, we presented to you a scenario, new hypothetical.

01:11:43.900 Okay.

01:11:44.160 You get to work, you get to have a job, but it changes a little bit.

01:11:50.260 You have to drop out of somebody, I don't know, some eccentric, I don't know, the owners

01:11:56.460 of Walmart, really eccentric, right?

01:12:00.240 Not actually, I don't know.

01:12:01.380 But the owner of Walmart is super eccentric, approaches you, and just really likes you

01:12:06.680 for some reason.

01:12:07.740 And they say, I want you to drop out of college, forget your career plans, but I'll pay you

01:12:15.720 $1 million per year.

01:12:17.860 That's a lot.

01:12:18.640 Honestly, I'd be surprised if, no offense, I'd be surprised even if at your peak, any of

01:12:24.020 you ever even end up making a million dollars in here.

01:12:26.720 No offense.

01:12:27.180 Don't take it the wrong way.

01:12:28.000 All he wants you to do is be a door greeter.

01:12:33.960 You just greet people at the door, welcome to Walmart, you get paid a million dollars

01:12:38.020 a year.

01:12:38.940 You can't quit after five years, oh, I've made five mil, I'm going to, no, you got to

01:12:42.880 work until retirement.

01:12:45.740 All right, you know what, we can even, you work till you're 50, I don't know, whatever,

01:12:49.340 50, retirement, they pay you a million dollars a year.

01:12:52.580 Over the course of your, you know, you'll make 30, 40 M.

01:12:55.420 You can pursue any kind of romantic relationship you want, and you get to work.

01:13:01.700 You're working.

01:13:02.560 Do you take that trade?

01:13:04.400 To be honest, I'm sorry, I still know, and that's not because of my relationship ideals,

01:13:08.300 it's because of fundamentally who I am.

01:13:10.200 If I am a door greeter for five years of my life, disregarding the whole man thing, I

01:13:16.380 consistently crave change, adaptability, adventure, and naturally I fall into, like, I'd fall into

01:13:21.880 a crazy depression, screw the million dollars.

01:13:24.000 It's an average 40-hour work week, so it's like, you can still climb towers and shit on

01:13:29.360 the weekends, after work, before, it's not like, you know, you get breaks and shit, you

01:13:34.080 know.

01:13:34.460 It would tie me down locationally.

01:13:36.540 Now, I think it's all, I think it's all conditional, you know, maybe if it's somebody that I'm deeply

01:13:41.300 intertwined with, I would, my stance would be a maybe.

01:13:44.180 I think it's a lot more specific than...

01:13:46.340 You could build your own tower and climb that shit with a million a year, but okay.

01:13:50.440 Do you take the trade?

01:13:51.440 Can we go to different Walmarts?

01:13:54.060 Different Walmarts?

01:13:55.200 Yeah.

01:13:57.960 You can work at the Walmart in Hawaii if you want to.

01:14:03.680 You can work at whatever Walmart in the country you want.

01:14:06.140 I mean, maybe you can't move every two weeks, but if you want to move, you can move.

01:14:11.180 Oh, yeah, you guys can eat.

01:14:12.620 Feel free.

01:14:13.520 I need a good slice, too.

01:14:14.360 Fine, I'll break the seal, bro.

01:14:15.760 Just try not to be a little far back.

01:14:19.960 Do you take the trade?

01:14:22.200 Honestly, probably.

01:14:27.040 You take the trade?

01:14:28.560 Yeah.

01:14:28.900 Okay, why is that?

01:14:29.560 Because it's, well, okay, it's not given, I'm not getting it for free.

01:14:38.300 It's not just, like, I'm working.

01:14:41.100 Obviously, it's not worth a million dollars to be a door greeter.

01:14:44.980 Yeah, it's like maybe 30, 40K a year in reality.

01:14:48.180 So you're kind of...

01:14:49.160 I don't know.

01:14:50.080 Kind of getting it.

01:14:51.140 Yeah.

01:14:51.440 Getting a real good deal.

01:14:53.480 But you said you'd do it.

01:14:54.740 Yeah.

01:14:54.860 You said you'd take it because you're earning the money.

01:14:57.760 Yeah.

01:14:58.100 Okay, so you take the deal.

01:14:59.820 What about you?

01:15:00.340 You take the deal?

01:15:01.240 No.

01:15:01.760 Don't take the deal.

01:15:02.980 Does it change if we up the price?

01:15:04.860 10 mil?

01:15:05.360 No, not the price.

01:15:06.200 Doesn't matter.

01:15:06.860 No.

01:15:07.000 10 mil?

01:15:07.780 No.

01:15:08.140 Interesting.

01:15:08.700 Okay.

01:15:09.500 Why?

01:15:10.760 Like, I'm genuinely really interested in psychology, and I want to do that.

01:15:14.400 Like, I want to help people, and...

01:15:16.140 I have a pitch for you.

01:15:17.680 You can psychoanalyze the people as they come into Walmart.

01:15:21.960 A lot of characters in Walmart, you know, here's my couch, sit down.

01:15:26.920 You can do some Freud shit.

01:15:28.500 Nope.

01:15:29.000 Okay.

01:15:30.440 You said you took the husband, so...

01:15:32.660 Do you take the deal?

01:15:35.120 Oh, man.

01:15:35.940 Maybe.

01:15:36.220 You take the deal?

01:15:36.840 The Walmart deal?

01:15:37.340 I don't think so, honestly.

01:15:38.240 You can't do your little car thing, your clothes thing?

01:15:40.960 I don't think so.

01:15:41.600 To me, it's more about the freedom of choice.

01:15:43.880 It's the autonomy.

01:15:44.920 Well, you still get to work, though.

01:15:47.120 Is the work fulfilling or not?

01:15:49.400 It matters, I think.

01:15:50.960 I mean, you get to smile at people and be pleasant, but not super fulfilling, I would

01:15:56.620 say.

01:15:56.780 What if you're just really bad at greeting people or don't want to be on your feet all

01:16:00.100 day?

01:16:00.120 I don't know if you have an RBF.

01:16:00.960 There's so many...

01:16:01.660 Show us your normal...

01:16:02.960 Do you have an RBF?

01:16:03.780 I can't because you're making me laugh now.

01:16:05.600 Okay.

01:16:06.320 But yes, I do have an RBF.

01:16:07.760 Oh, shit.

01:16:08.520 Okay.

01:16:10.180 Okay.

01:16:10.540 So, you don't take the trade.

01:16:13.980 Don't take the trade.

01:16:14.720 A million dollars a year is a...

01:16:15.900 Curious, you do have your own business.

01:16:20.120 How much do you make per year currently?

01:16:23.300 Maybe like 80 to 100.

01:16:25.980 Okay.

01:16:26.360 Maybe.

01:16:26.600 And then at your peak of your career, I guess, what do you think you'll be earning?

01:16:31.600 Six figures?

01:16:32.440 100K?

01:16:33.140 I'm guessing...

01:16:34.680 Well, I work at a startup right now.

01:16:36.980 Yeah.

01:16:37.700 You have stock options or...

01:16:39.380 Yeah, I have equity.

01:16:40.540 Equity?

01:16:41.160 Okay.

01:16:41.340 So, if that does well, I will do well.

01:16:45.460 Okay.

01:16:46.120 So, but no, you don't take the trade.

01:16:47.880 No.

01:16:48.220 What about you?

01:16:48.820 Do you take the trade?

01:16:49.380 I take the husband.

01:16:50.540 Oh, wait.

01:16:51.700 After...

01:16:52.260 After the infinity...

01:16:53.640 Oh, after I said if he stays with you.

01:16:55.200 I see.

01:16:55.600 Okay.

01:16:57.100 Do you...

01:16:57.580 Question, though.

01:16:58.500 Between the husband and this new thing, which of the two do you prefer?

01:17:03.260 I'd still take the husband.

01:17:04.380 Still take the husband?

01:17:05.260 And then for you?

01:17:06.180 Still take the husband?

01:17:06.780 Absolutely.

01:17:07.500 The billionaire?

01:17:08.180 Okay.

01:17:08.440 What about you?

01:17:10.540 I think yes.

01:17:14.400 You take the $1 million greeter job at Walmart?

01:17:18.320 Oh, sorry.

01:17:18.780 No.

01:17:19.320 I wouldn't.

01:17:20.160 You don't take it?

01:17:20.860 I wouldn't take it because since I do have my own business and I do feel confident that

01:17:28.080 I will work hard enough to do well, hopefully I'll be making more than a million a year.

01:17:33.800 And, yeah.

01:17:35.780 I mean, you know, but...

01:17:38.400 I also think the job, like she said, could be pretty boring.

01:17:41.760 Question.

01:17:42.100 How much do you make currently?

01:17:43.800 Currently as a student?

01:17:45.680 Well, you're active in your business.

01:17:47.840 Oh, yes.

01:17:48.180 With your clothes.

01:17:49.080 Yeah.

01:17:49.360 Your clothing brand.

01:17:50.860 How much do you make currently?

01:17:52.260 I would say about $7,000 to $10,000 currently.

01:17:56.260 A year?

01:17:57.360 Per month.

01:17:58.100 Monthly.

01:17:58.400 So you make $7,000 to $10,000 per month?

01:18:01.960 Yes.

01:18:02.460 Okay.

01:18:02.700 So you make six figures.

01:18:04.500 Oh, that's pretty good.

01:18:05.220 You're 20, right?

01:18:06.160 Yes.

01:18:06.620 Okay.

01:18:06.900 That's pretty good.

01:18:08.640 How long have you been doing the business?

01:18:10.580 I started on a selling platform, like...

01:18:15.560 Shopify?

01:18:16.640 No, like Depop.

01:18:18.720 Me too.

01:18:19.840 Yeah.

01:18:20.000 My freshman year of high school, so I was 14.

01:18:22.180 That's where I got the ball rolling.

01:18:24.020 And then I created my own website this August.

01:18:27.640 Wait, question though.

01:18:28.440 Clarification.

01:18:29.460 Profit or revenue?

01:18:30.820 The $7,000 to $10,000?

01:18:31.700 Is that revenue?

01:18:33.020 Profit, because I hand make all my clothing.

01:18:36.000 So my profit margins are pretty good.

01:18:38.800 Okay.

01:18:39.180 Yeah.

01:18:40.260 But your calculus here is you plan to go on to make a lot of money with your business.

01:18:47.120 So you think you'll actually out-earn this Walmart $1 million a year greeter gig.

01:18:52.780 What if we boost it, though?

01:18:53.900 Let's just say, you know, maybe, okay, you do go on to be very successful and you make

01:18:58.840 a mil or more a year with your clothing brand.

01:19:02.980 Let's boost it to 10 mil a year at Walmart.

01:19:06.320 Do you take it then?

01:19:07.720 I would absolutely take that deal.

01:19:09.720 Oh, you take the deal then.

01:19:11.060 Okay.

01:19:11.400 I see.

01:19:12.400 Yeah.

01:19:12.620 She takes it then.

01:19:13.340 I would take that deal.

01:19:14.880 Okay.

01:19:15.960 So here's my confusion with all of you guys.

01:19:20.640 Not all of you, but some of you.

01:19:22.700 Some of you take the $1 million a year greeter job, which requires you to kick it in the Walmart

01:19:31.580 for 40 hours a week.

01:19:34.140 But you won't marry, and you have to give up all the other stuff too, right?

01:19:38.360 You'll give up college, give up your preferred career for the Walmart greeter $1 million a year

01:19:44.020 gig.

01:19:47.200 But you, like, I don't know.

01:19:49.260 Do we need to type out how much a billion is?

01:19:51.180 There's, like, really good videos on how much a billion is.

01:19:55.960 I don't know if we can.

01:19:56.720 It's a lot.

01:19:57.240 Nick, I'm going to see if I can find a video.

01:20:00.120 I think it's hard to conceptualize.

01:20:01.420 Oh, shit.

01:20:02.200 Oh, fuck.

01:20:02.740 I have to do a few things.

01:20:03.500 Oh, man.

01:20:03.800 Don't mind if I interject, but why are we placing so much stress on finance and money?

01:20:08.280 A billion versus a million when it comes to your lifestyle?

01:20:11.080 It depends what your dream lifestyle is.

01:20:12.620 Hold on.

01:20:13.080 A billion versus a million is a huge difference.

01:20:14.180 It's a lot.

01:20:14.760 Don't get me wrong.

01:20:15.800 Don't get me wrong.

01:20:16.720 But at the end of the day.

01:20:17.680 You might think a million is a lot, but, like, probably.

01:20:19.960 I mean, if you're really frugal, that could, it'll set you up really well.

01:20:25.600 But, eh, that's not.

01:20:27.080 After a certain point, your lifestyle can only get so good.

01:20:30.700 Oh, hold on.

01:20:31.220 But, okay, a million, that's, like, you're going to buy a fucking condo in Southern California,

01:20:37.340 and you're still going to have to have the job.

01:20:39.120 You're still going to have to work until you're retired, even if you get a million-dollar windfall.

01:20:43.720 Now, you can invest it and blah, blah, blah, but a billion, you're good.

01:20:49.380 Yeah.

01:20:49.820 You're fucking good.

01:20:51.220 You don't have to worry about money for the rest of your life.

01:20:52.460 Go ahead.

01:20:53.000 The only reason I say this is because some people crave lifestyles that require higher wealth.

01:21:01.120 You know, obviously, I've just recently seen some of these Beverly Hills mansions.

01:21:04.660 Yeah, they cost a lot.

01:21:05.740 I've just dropped into California.

01:21:07.200 It costs a lot.

01:21:08.420 But the reason that I have the answers that I do are not because of any feminist basis or any hyper-independent basis.

01:21:14.300 And don't get me wrong.

01:21:14.940 I am feminist.

01:21:16.140 I think we all are.

01:21:16.980 I think we grow Boston over here.

01:21:18.980 But it's just not a matter of.

01:21:20.220 You'd have to ask the rest of the panel on that one.

01:21:21.460 It's, I mean, that's for you to open up.

01:21:23.700 That's not my, but at least my standpoint is, sorry, I just crave a simple life.

01:21:29.080 And the life I crave does not require a billion dollars.

01:21:32.620 It truly doesn't.

01:21:34.020 So I don't put so much emphasis on a man's financial status or how much I'm making.

01:21:39.580 As long as I'm making enough to lead a life that makes me and my long-term partner happy, that's truly all I care about.

01:21:45.360 So that's more traditional than, I guess, you're letting us to believe.

01:21:49.280 Because it's down to the fundamentals.

01:21:51.380 I just want a simple, happy life.

01:21:53.160 And I don't think that there's so much stress on money, money, money.

01:21:56.260 It's like, come on, bro.

01:21:58.140 Is this like a dating podcast?

01:22:00.360 Let's talk about love, man.

01:22:02.360 Well, I mean, it's interesting you bring that up.

01:22:04.560 Although if we look at divorces, the primary thing cited to for the reason for divorce is financial issues in the relationship.

01:22:12.140 So this idea that finances are completely separated from relationships are ridiculous.

01:22:17.580 Even feminist liberal women frequently want men to be providers despite their claims of desiring equality.

01:22:25.360 In fact, we can go around the table on this.

01:22:28.220 Who here would consider themselves more liberal or would consider themselves feminist?

01:22:32.820 Starting with you.

01:22:34.440 I would say I'm pretty liberal.

01:22:35.780 I'm not, I'd say as far as the political compass goes, right or left.

01:22:39.580 I don't think I'm either.

01:22:40.280 I'm just straight down.

01:22:41.000 I'm just very anti-establishment.

01:22:42.660 But I guess.

01:22:43.060 So you're like an anarchist?

01:22:45.700 Yes, I'd say so.

01:22:48.400 You're a feminist though, correct?

01:22:49.760 I'd say so, yeah.

01:22:50.500 What about you?

01:22:51.760 I would say I'm more liberal and a feminist.

01:22:55.080 And feminist?

01:22:55.640 Okay, what about you?

01:22:56.580 I would say I'm liberal and a feminist.

01:22:57.900 Okay, what about you?

01:22:59.440 I would say lean more towards traditional values and conservatism.

01:23:06.240 Sorry, wait.

01:23:06.860 Repeat that first part.

01:23:07.620 I missed it.

01:23:08.200 More traditional.

01:23:09.840 Traditional values.

01:23:10.780 I see.

01:23:11.080 Okay.

01:23:11.280 Conservative.

01:23:11.560 And not a feminist?

01:23:13.260 No, I wouldn't consider myself.

01:23:14.100 Okay, what about you?

01:23:14.640 I'm the same, more conservative.

01:23:16.120 More conservative, not a feminist?

01:23:18.140 Non-feminist.

01:23:18.960 What about you?

01:23:19.820 Same.

01:23:20.480 As who?

01:23:21.320 As these two right next to me.

01:23:23.540 More conservative.

01:23:24.740 Yes.

01:23:25.160 Not feminist.

01:23:27.080 Less feminist than most.

01:23:29.620 What does that mean though?

01:23:31.620 It's a spectrum.

01:23:32.800 Yeah.

01:23:33.940 I wouldn't be all the way up there, but you know.

01:23:37.240 Equal rights, but not.

01:23:38.540 Should we smash the patriarchy?

01:23:41.560 Um, yeah, why not?

01:23:44.600 Okay, you're a feminist.

01:23:46.280 What about you?

01:23:48.640 I would say I lean towards more the conservative side.

01:23:53.640 More conservative.

01:23:54.300 And I'm not all the way feminist, but I do agree with some of the values.

01:23:58.220 Some stuff.

01:23:58.860 Okay.

01:23:59.200 I understand it's not completely black and white.

01:24:03.000 What about you?

01:24:04.380 Conservative, not a feminist.

01:24:05.700 Not a feminist.

01:24:06.400 Feminist.

01:24:06.720 Okay.

01:24:07.440 Question going around the table.

01:24:10.960 Where do I start?

01:24:12.540 Let's start over here.

01:24:14.860 Even if you're a feminist, not a feminist, everybody can just answer the question.

01:24:18.820 You might want to scoot into the table a little bit just so you're closer to the mic.

01:24:23.620 Should men pay on first dates?

01:24:24.840 Yes.

01:24:27.620 Yes.

01:24:28.160 Okay.

01:24:28.540 What about you?

01:24:29.540 Yes.

01:24:30.040 Yes?

01:24:30.720 Yes.

01:24:31.400 Yes.

01:24:31.720 If he asked me out, yes.

01:24:33.560 Well, okay.

01:24:34.640 I'll come back to that really quick.

01:24:35.560 Go ahead.

01:24:36.140 That's a hard yes.

01:24:37.340 Hard yes.

01:24:38.140 Okay.

01:24:39.080 If he asked me out, yes.

01:24:40.480 Well, you're currently in a relationship.

01:24:42.160 I don't know if you went on like a formal, not formal, but you went on the first date with

01:24:45.720 your boyfriend.

01:24:46.360 Did he pay for the date?

01:24:48.340 I don't even remember what our first date.

01:24:50.020 We were like really young.

01:24:51.200 It was like 16.

01:24:51.720 Currently, does he still pay for dates?

01:24:55.140 Honestly, no.

01:24:55.700 We do split pay.

01:24:56.780 Like if it's my birthday.

01:24:57.380 To be fair, you guys are both young.

01:24:59.360 We're young, yeah.

01:24:59.660 I don't expect him to pay for me.

01:25:01.240 So it's kind of a bit more common when you're both young.

01:25:03.940 What about you?

01:25:04.520 Should the guy pay?

01:25:05.240 I think it depends on who asks who out.

01:25:06.980 So if a guy asks me out, then he should probably pay.

01:25:10.500 Okay.

01:25:11.120 I'll come back to that.

01:25:12.060 What do you think?

01:25:13.420 It doesn't matter to me.

01:25:14.600 It truly doesn't.

01:25:15.720 I paid for a couple first dates.

01:25:16.920 I'm okay with that.

01:25:17.680 That's fine.

01:25:17.960 Going back to you and you, you guys say, well, whoever asks should pay, if he asks, he should

01:25:24.720 pay.

01:25:25.440 How many times have you, how many first dates would you say you've had?

01:25:30.120 A couple or?

01:25:31.380 Yeah, a couple.

01:25:32.520 What?

01:25:32.960 Three, four, five, six, seven?

01:25:35.280 10, 20, 30, 40?

01:25:39.480 I don't know.

01:25:40.080 I guess we'll say, like, seven or eight.

01:25:43.740 Okay.

01:25:44.580 Of the seven or eight first dates, did you ask, first dates, first dates, did you ask

01:25:50.640 the guy or did he ask you?

01:25:55.260 I feel like it's less formal the way, like.

01:26:00.620 Yeah, it's just kind of like, yo, let's hang out.

01:26:01.760 Yeah.

01:26:02.060 Let's hang out.

01:26:02.580 It's, you know.

01:26:03.580 Okay.

01:26:03.860 I understand that, you know, it's not like dinner in a movie, especially when you're

01:26:07.940 young, you're not always doing, like, a really formal date, but who's the one who's taking

01:26:13.900 the, I guess the easiest way I could frame it, the sort of initial initiative of requesting

01:26:19.660 some sort of romantic rendezvous?

01:26:22.760 I'd say it's probably half and half, split.

01:26:24.820 50-50?

01:26:25.440 Yeah.

01:26:26.180 First date?

01:26:26.740 Mm-hmm.

01:26:26.960 Okay.

01:26:27.460 What about you?

01:26:29.180 Or, sorry, no, no, no, this is for you.

01:26:30.980 Oh.

01:26:31.160 You say men should pay, if men ask, they should pay.

01:26:33.980 Do you ask men that on dates?

01:26:36.500 Yeah, more informal, like that, just a hangout, but I haven't really, not directly, like, do.

01:26:41.920 Well, have any of you, have you been on a formal date where the guy's like, hey, let's go,

01:26:46.560 or I guess you could have said, hey, first time hanging out, really, or whatever, let's

01:26:51.620 go grab coffee, let's go grab some food.

01:26:55.060 Yeah.

01:26:55.740 You've had more formal.

01:26:57.460 Mm-hmm.

01:26:57.640 Not just, I don't know, Netflix and chill, or let's hang out.

01:27:01.340 Uh, you, you have formally asked a guy out for dinner, first date, I'm not talking about

01:27:07.820 your boyfriend.

01:27:09.800 Not for a first date, I haven't formally asked like that before.

01:27:13.300 So, how many formal first dates have you been on?

01:27:16.800 I, I don't know.

01:27:18.220 Three, three, I'll need, you don't need to tell me exact, just an approximation, three,

01:27:22.580 four, five?

01:27:25.580 Somewhere in that, three, four, five.

01:27:27.020 And was it always the guy who asked for the formal date?

01:27:30.900 Yeah, I guess.

01:27:32.280 Okay.

01:27:32.820 What about you?

01:27:33.880 Maybe ten.

01:27:35.340 Ten formal dates?

01:27:36.540 Yeah.

01:27:36.860 Okay.

01:27:37.280 Did you, did the guy ask?

01:27:39.200 Yeah.

01:27:39.760 Every single time?

01:27:40.620 All of them.

01:27:41.280 Okay.

01:27:41.480 So this idea, well, whoever asks should pay, does conveniently ignore the fact that de facto

01:27:47.120 men are initiators, men are the askers, uh, almost all the time.

01:27:51.880 I agree.

01:27:52.160 The majority of the time.

01:27:53.360 So it's kind of, look, I would, this idea of whoever I should pay, I could be on board

01:27:58.540 with that if it was the case that men and women asked each other out at comparable rates,

01:28:04.320 but they clearly don't.

01:28:05.500 It's probably like 90, 95, five.

01:28:09.660 Can I add?

01:28:10.300 Sure.

01:28:11.080 Sometimes if there's not going to be a second date, I will pay half usually.

01:28:16.540 Cause you know, and I've definitely paid for dates as well.

01:28:22.780 Well, first dates.

01:28:24.320 Yeah.

01:28:24.860 Like I get, if you're dating a guy, you know, okay.

01:28:27.540 You had something?

01:28:28.620 Yeah.

01:28:28.820 I just want to say that I'm like, I don't mean my boyfriend has a really weird way we

01:28:33.220 met, but I just want to like, it started because I kind of like told him first that

01:28:36.840 I liked him and then the guy kind of did that.

01:28:40.760 So cause you said, I guess I, I kind of initiated us like talking, getting to know each other

01:28:48.220 more.

01:28:49.560 Okay.

01:28:50.160 Yeah.

01:28:50.320 Me too.

01:28:50.720 I literally asked my boyfriend out.

01:28:52.200 Wait, do you want the pizza or?

01:28:54.140 Um, I'm good for now.

01:28:55.540 Okay.

01:28:56.080 Let's, uh, maybe Felicity, when you get them home, are you guys done with your pizzas?

01:29:00.560 Yeah, I'm done.

01:29:01.860 Okay.

01:29:02.120 Maybe we, I guess we'll leave them.

01:29:03.860 I will eventually.

01:29:04.260 We'll leave them there for a little bit, but just if you guys want to nibble, um, wait,

01:29:10.380 sorry, you were saying something about, you hit on your boyfriend.

01:29:14.100 Yeah.

01:29:14.920 So you guys went to school together?

01:29:17.020 We did.

01:29:17.500 We met through a mutual friend and, um, the person who introduced us also liked me and

01:29:24.340 we all kind of knew it, but I was interested in my boyfriend.

01:29:27.620 So we kind of, I confessed to him like secretly and then we kind of started seeing each other

01:29:32.380 for a month until we told everyone.

01:29:34.260 So, uh, Matt, thank you for the merch.

01:29:36.980 Chris, thank you for the merch.

01:29:37.840 Appreciate it, guys.

01:29:39.380 Um, okay.

01:29:41.020 So wait, hold on.

01:29:41.800 Let me just get back to the original point here.

01:29:45.840 Oh, right.

01:29:46.480 The whole like feminist thing or whatever.

01:29:49.460 I'm trying to remember where I was going with that.

01:29:52.160 Um, you were making a point about how you're more feminist.

01:30:00.320 Yes.

01:30:00.920 And because of this, you don't care as much about money.

01:30:03.640 Not really, no.

01:30:05.120 Then again, to be fair, I've never really had a formal date.

01:30:07.700 I mean, most recent one was I got taken out to Dave and Buster's, you know, once my boyfriend

01:30:12.100 got a spare paycheck.

01:30:12.220 I'm not sure how that's relevant, but thank you for sharing that.

01:30:13.940 So, going back to this, uh, who here said they were feminist and also said men should pay

01:30:21.240 on first dates?

01:30:22.020 I think it was you.

01:30:24.240 I think.

01:30:24.580 Whoa, that's not what I said.

01:30:25.840 I think you said men should pay, right?

01:30:27.400 No, she said it was conditional.

01:30:28.500 It was like based on the circumstance.

01:30:29.880 And I've also paid for dates, like first dates too.

01:30:32.440 And I literally asked.

01:30:33.280 Is it the majority?

01:30:35.040 Or you said 50-50?

01:30:35.980 50-50.

01:30:36.560 And also, I was the one who asked my boyfriend to date me.

01:30:40.000 Yeah, this, this does happen.

01:30:41.860 Although I would say there's no dispute that women do ask men out.

01:30:45.860 There's no dispute that women do pay for first dates.

01:30:48.400 Right.

01:30:48.700 But what I'm trying to get at is I'm, I'm talking more so in averages.

01:30:52.980 Gotcha.

01:30:53.540 So, and it's not even average.

01:30:56.260 The majority experience would be men are going to be the initiators and men are going to pay

01:31:00.880 for dates, right?

01:31:02.400 Not to say that there aren't instances where women will initiate, where women will

01:31:06.360 pay for dates.

01:31:07.680 I don't, I don't have an exact, you know, there was a study on it.

01:31:12.140 I would put it to be conservative.

01:31:15.880 95% of the time, the guy initiates.

01:31:18.500 95% of the time, the guy pays for the first date.

01:31:22.720 I'm curious, though, to hear from any women here who, like for you, for example, have you

01:31:28.480 ever paid for a first date?

01:31:34.160 Not that I can recall, no.

01:31:35.840 And you're 36.

01:31:37.460 How many first dates do you think you've been on?

01:31:39.080 Dozens?

01:31:39.860 Oh my God.

01:31:40.860 Hundreds, maybe?

01:31:42.360 I don't know about hundreds, but quite, quite a few.

01:31:44.900 Yeah.

01:31:45.120 Maybe like 40, 50, 60.

01:31:47.120 Probably around that.

01:31:48.100 Yeah.

01:31:48.720 I mean, look, if you, you've been dating since you were 18, you know, you go on two or three

01:31:54.520 dates a year, you're at 40, 50, 60.

01:31:56.980 I was single for five, for five years.

01:31:59.400 Sure.

01:31:59.860 So, yeah.

01:32:00.420 And sometimes people go on 10, 12.

01:32:02.120 Yeah.

01:32:02.320 I went on a lot.

01:32:02.940 Bunch of dates in a short period of time.

01:32:05.660 Mm-hmm.

01:32:06.540 Never paid for a first date.

01:32:09.040 I split, I split a first date one time.

01:32:13.700 The guy actually reached over and grabbed my food, which I was disgusted by.

01:32:21.560 And then we split it and I, I blocked him.

01:32:26.920 Good times.

01:32:27.980 And have you ever asked the guy out first?

01:32:31.240 I've never asked a guy out.

01:32:31.940 Never asked a guy out.

01:32:32.580 No.

01:32:32.740 Anybody here never asked a guy out?

01:32:35.280 Never.

01:32:35.760 Never asked a guy out?

01:32:37.500 Is that, sorry, are you saying no, you have?

01:32:40.560 Like mutual, mutual hangout, but like not directly.

01:32:45.260 Have you ever been on a dating app?

01:32:47.020 Yeah.

01:32:47.260 On a dating app, did you ever say to a guy, hey, let's go out?

01:32:51.540 Or was it always the guy asking?

01:32:53.200 Usually the guy.

01:32:54.100 Usually the guy.

01:32:54.760 Anybody here?

01:32:55.420 Never asked a guy out?

01:32:56.560 No.

01:32:57.060 Never asked a guy out?

01:32:58.380 By the way, guys, just people, audio, podcast, so instead of, like, just.

01:33:04.100 Never.

01:33:05.480 No, I have not.

01:33:07.560 Okay.

01:33:08.440 No.

01:33:09.040 No.

01:33:09.400 Ever asked a guy out?

01:33:10.140 Never asked a guy out?

01:33:12.340 Now, here's the real kicker on this.

01:33:14.680 Has a guy ever asked you out?

01:33:15.960 Yeah, exactly.

01:33:18.840 Yes?

01:33:19.440 Oh, my God.

01:33:21.020 Is that a trick question?

01:33:22.920 Like what?

01:33:23.760 Hundreds of men have probably.

01:33:25.680 I'm not saying you went out with every guy.

01:33:27.360 You guys have probably rejected tons of men, but hundreds of men have asked you out.

01:33:33.660 Thousands even, maybe.

01:33:35.680 This includes, like, Instagram DMs, dating apps, in person.

01:33:41.100 Yeah, of course.

01:33:41.800 Yeah, probably.

01:33:42.420 Fucking some dude, you're repoing his shit.

01:33:43.940 Actually, that has happened a couple of times.

01:33:47.760 We got to talk about that.

01:33:48.640 Have you ever, like.

01:33:49.240 Good times.

01:33:50.160 You're fucking repoing.

01:33:51.100 I feel like that's a media red flag, though.

01:33:53.000 It's like, fuck, I'm repoing this dude's car, but he's kind of cute, you know?

01:33:56.660 In South Florida and Miami, I get a lot of the old men.

01:33:59.600 Oh, yeah.

01:34:00.100 Oh, those old men.

01:34:00.920 I repo their car.

01:34:03.000 Like Boca.

01:34:04.140 Going to you, how many times have you been asked out?

01:34:07.100 Social media and in person.

01:34:08.200 And, by the way, not saying you actually went out with, you could have rejected them, but

01:34:11.780 how many times total?

01:34:13.060 I would say.

01:34:14.180 A couple dozen, a hundred.

01:34:15.320 I would say a couple dozen.

01:34:16.420 A couple dozen.

01:34:16.860 What about you?

01:34:17.340 A hundred plus?

01:34:17.500 I agree, a couple dozen.

01:34:18.840 A couple dozen, a hundred plus.

01:34:19.980 A hundred plus, probably.

01:34:20.880 A thousand plus.

01:34:21.900 I don't know.

01:34:22.740 You don't know?

01:34:23.480 What about you?

01:34:23.820 Probably not.

01:34:24.460 A hundred plus.

01:34:25.160 How many guys?

01:34:26.780 You know?

01:34:27.080 A couple dozen, I guess.

01:34:27.840 A couple dozen.

01:34:28.840 Like, 40, 50.

01:34:30.100 40, 50.

01:34:31.140 Online, a couple dozen, but in person.

01:34:32.760 Into the mic.

01:34:33.220 Into the mic.

01:34:33.700 Sorry.

01:34:34.360 Online, a couple dozen, but in person, it was always like, we were friends, and then it

01:34:38.780 just fell in naturally.

01:34:40.120 So, there was, it's a hard conversation, because it's like, I didn't ask him out, he didn't

01:34:43.100 ask me out.

01:34:43.720 It just grew naturally.

01:34:45.540 So, I've never really been on, like, a formal date.

01:34:47.620 That's why this is so hard for me to answer.

01:34:49.300 Okay.

01:34:50.300 I guess to kind of wrap this all together, link it all together, I was asking you guys

01:34:55.360 about, would you give up college and career for a billionaire?

01:35:00.580 Would you give up college and career for a job that pays you a million dollars?

01:35:05.320 I'm just so confused.

01:35:09.220 Like, who doesn't, why would you not pick the billionaire?

01:35:13.980 That's my confusion.

01:35:15.720 Like, you want to rent your car out?

01:35:18.820 Seems like, hold on, all you guys wanting to do all this work, and I gotta go to class

01:35:23.760 and study for my final.

01:35:25.560 I gotta, I have to play this for you guys.

01:35:27.400 Hold on.

01:35:28.320 Wait, hold on.

01:35:28.820 Where is it?

01:35:29.200 I don't know, man.

01:35:31.040 That sounds like a lot of work.

01:35:34.040 It sounds like a lot of work.

01:35:36.040 You can meet a, you meet a billionaire, you, you never have to work a day in your life.

01:35:41.600 I hate that.

01:35:42.220 You're taken care of.

01:35:43.580 Your family's taken care of.

01:35:45.060 Your kids are taken care of.

01:35:46.540 Your grandkids are taken care of.

01:35:48.160 Maybe dozens or hundreds of generations of your future, well, great-great-great-grandchildren

01:35:56.020 taken care of.

01:35:58.040 Generational wealth.

01:35:58.860 Yeah.

01:35:59.480 Yeah.

01:36:01.120 Which is kind of interesting.

01:36:03.000 Why is that?

01:36:03.700 I've seen what wealth does to people generationally, especially being from South Florida, going to

01:36:10.600 school and living in like a very, very, not just, you know, actual status, like how much

01:36:17.920 you have, but the money mentality.

01:36:20.700 I'm just not a fan of it.

01:36:22.360 You've already, you already have the money.

01:36:24.080 So then ultimately though, this wouldn't have really anything to do with the money.

01:36:28.300 It would come down to your parenting.

01:36:29.460 You can still be an obscenely wealthy and you could raise your kids in such.

01:36:34.320 I'm not suggesting that, I mean, you can take care of your kids exceptionally well, but

01:36:38.940 you don't have to spoil them.

01:36:40.140 They don't have to be a little spoiled brats.

01:36:41.620 In fact, you can hide the degree of your wealth.

01:36:45.740 You know, you don't need to let on to your children, by the way, you know, we're super

01:36:48.880 rich.

01:36:49.360 You can, I mean, they might get some hints through your lifestyle.

01:36:52.000 You can still raise them simply with financial stability.

01:36:55.480 I understand that.

01:36:56.180 It's just a matter of locking myself down to a Walmart.

01:36:59.600 Now, if you were to tell me like, Hey, or to a billionaire man, it's personality based.

01:37:06.020 I would rather struggle with somebody.

01:37:07.540 I would rather be sleeping on the streets with somebody.

01:37:09.560 If that somebody aligns with my soul, you'd rather be homeless.

01:37:12.540 No, that's not what I said.

01:37:13.860 Sleeping on the streets.

01:37:14.860 What I'm saying is it's about the character.

01:37:16.820 Aren't you homeless currently?

01:37:18.220 Technically.

01:37:22.000 Well, you do like the travel shit.

01:37:23.840 I mean, conditionally, I guess.

01:37:25.880 But what I'm saying is, look, if the billionaire just so happens to be my aligned karmic soul

01:37:32.680 twin, the other end of my red string, and he just so happens to be a billionaire, beautiful.

01:37:36.780 But that's not what I, that's not what I think about when I think of relationship and marriage

01:37:42.280 and long term.

01:37:43.100 I just, I just want a soul that.

01:37:45.660 Okay.

01:37:45.920 What about the other?

01:37:46.540 Let's hear from the other girls.

01:37:47.760 Sorry.

01:37:48.040 My fault.

01:37:49.140 What do you guys think?

01:37:51.180 To me, it's just like not a fulfilling life.

01:37:52.920 Like, I love shopping and I love, like, doing nothing.

01:37:55.600 You love shopping.

01:37:56.140 Yeah, but how long can I do it for?

01:37:57.600 Like, my whole life, just shopping and doing nothing, traveling.

01:38:00.140 No, like...

01:38:00.600 That's it.

01:38:01.060 Yes, you travel, shop, hang out with your billionaire boyfriend, husband, whatever.

01:38:06.120 Have kids eventually if you want to have kids or not, whatever you want to do.

01:38:09.260 But that's just, like, not fulfilling.

01:38:10.920 Like, working.

01:38:11.180 What's fulfilling?

01:38:11.920 Like, working.

01:38:12.520 I want to help people.

01:38:13.100 Why is work, I don't understand why this idea of work as fulfillment.

01:38:18.060 Why is work fulfilling to men?

01:38:20.420 Why is work fulfilling to you?

01:38:22.180 Sure, sure.

01:38:23.100 I, yeah, yeah.

01:38:23.920 So, well, first off, if even I, if we're going to view it from the frame and lens of it is

01:38:31.820 more so within the male traditional or male gender expectation, traditional gender roles

01:38:37.180 that men, men are primary breadwinners or men are supposed to get fulfillment from work,

01:38:43.820 even I take the trade.

01:38:45.020 Even I take the female billionaire over my really fulfilling gender.

01:38:52.040 The reality is, the reality is, now, some of you may go on to have fulfilling careers.

01:38:57.900 I think careers can be fulfilling.

01:38:59.720 However, I would wager for the vast majority of people, 97, 95% of people, you're going

01:39:08.860 to be slogging away, slaving away for some megacorp, some corporation, doesn't, cold corporation,

01:39:16.680 doesn't give a fuck about you.

01:39:18.720 Your boss is going to say, be here at this time.

01:39:22.620 These are going to be your hours.

01:39:23.800 Some of you may go on to be self-employed, whatever.

01:39:25.860 However, then you're, uh, you're a slave to somebody else, which would be your consumer

01:39:30.320 or your client or whatever it is.

01:39:34.180 This idea that ultimate fulfillment comes from career seems a bit misguided.

01:39:38.520 I don't think even really successful people who have had fulfilling careers, uh, they sit

01:39:44.000 on their deathbed and they think, wow, I closed that fucking sale.

01:39:46.920 I, I did, you know, I, I did X, Y, Z.

01:39:50.800 The, I think ultimate fulfillment from life will come from, uh, family primarily will come

01:39:57.820 from friends will come from those sorts of, uh, 1,000%.

01:40:01.940 Again, not to say that you can't enjoy and get fulfillment from a career, but in terms

01:40:07.860 of ultimate fulfillment and, and to finish my point off, I think most people don't even

01:40:16.460 have careers.

01:40:16.960 I think most people have jobs and like, unless you're some rock star or, you know, you're

01:40:24.600 doing some really, I can maybe see like, if you're a doctor or like in healthcare or something,

01:40:30.400 there can be some degree of fulfillment where you're like, there are some jobs where there's

01:40:35.240 like a component of actually helping people.

01:40:37.540 But if you're just like, I don't know, an HR manager for like NVIDIA or like you're, you're

01:40:44.560 some like project manager for, um, what's like kind of like a, like Microsoft.

01:40:54.640 How you're, you're really, Oh my God.

01:40:59.520 I didn't hire that one person deathbed reminiscing like you're on your deathbed

01:41:06.280 reminiscing about, wow, I sat in a cubicle.

01:41:09.740 I sat in an office for fucking like 30 years of my life.

01:41:16.140 Like, look, some of y'all might have cool jobs, I guess.

01:41:19.140 That's the exact, most people aren't, most people aren't.

01:41:21.500 Y'all going to be hustling and grinding.

01:41:23.560 Work is stressful.

01:41:24.300 Wake up at fucking 7am, get off at 5, 6pm.

01:41:30.380 Do it again, repeat it every single day.

01:41:32.440 Shit.

01:41:32.800 I don't have enough free time.

01:41:33.740 Is that not the circumstance you gave us with the Walmart question though?

01:41:36.040 Like, yeah, you're earning mega bread, but at the end of the day, it's the same exact

01:41:38.320 thing.

01:41:38.700 You're greeting people out of Walmart 40 hours a week.

01:41:40.720 Is that not the same feel?

01:41:41.720 Unless you truly enjoy greeting people out of Walmart.

01:41:44.320 Is that not the same exact thing that you were just talking about with your office job that

01:41:47.440 you're slaving away?

01:41:48.040 Aren't we just slaving away at a Walmart too?

01:41:49.420 Well, that is to assess, that is to assess if, so what I'm trying to achieve there is

01:41:57.100 the billion, if you're married to a billionaire, the sort of passive wealth that that passes

01:42:02.420 on to you and opens up to you far exceeds if you just earned a million dollars per year.

01:42:09.600 But some people get bogged down in, well, I want to earn it and I want to work, blah,

01:42:14.580 blah, blah.

01:42:14.780 So I just ask, okay, but I guess the reason I bring that up is, well, if you're married

01:42:20.260 to a billionaire, you're going to have, probably have a maid, you're going to have a private

01:42:24.980 chef, you'll never have to work.

01:42:27.520 Your husband, who's a billionaire, is never going to be like, okay, show up.

01:42:32.720 You got to wake up at 7 a.m. and you got to stay here and you can't leave until, like

01:42:38.940 that's essentially what a job is.

01:42:40.880 Show up, 8 a.m., 9 a.m., 10 a.m., stay there, do your job.

01:42:46.540 Sometimes you can have a chill boss or whatever, or sometimes you have a boss like me, who's

01:42:50.620 a little snarky sometimes, a little snappy, a little snarky.

01:42:55.100 And then, you know, show up here, do this, do that.

01:43:00.940 Your husband's never going to do that.

01:43:02.240 So that's my confusion.

01:43:03.740 You can open yourself up to obscene levels of wealth through marrying a billionaire and

01:43:09.160 never having to work, but some people pick, oh yeah, I'll just do menial, like for 40 years,

01:43:16.160 I'll just greet people at a Walmart, which is like low-skilled job.

01:43:20.540 I mean, that's my confusion.

01:43:22.360 That's the reason for the comparison.

01:43:23.800 I see.

01:43:24.180 I understand.

01:43:24.700 Misunderstanding.

01:43:25.160 Yeah.

01:43:25.900 Honestly, if I was going to do a 9 to 5 job, I would have picked the billionaire, but I'm

01:43:29.880 not picking a career that's 9 to 5.

01:43:31.700 So that's why.

01:43:32.440 Well, I mean, you'll be working a lot, right?

01:43:34.360 I'll be working a lot, but after I get my PhD, then I can pick what I want to do.

01:43:37.760 I can become a professor.

01:43:38.880 I can do my own practice.

01:43:41.500 I can, I also kind of want to write, like try writing a few books.

01:43:44.400 So that's why I think it's fulfilling.

01:43:46.280 I think I'm helping people.

01:43:47.360 But if I know, like if I wasn't doing psychology, if I probably would have gone into like marketing

01:43:51.240 or something, I probably would have, yeah, married a billionaire because then I didn't

01:43:55.880 want to do a 9 to 5 job.

01:43:56.900 And that's something also why I picked psychology, because I don't want a 9 to 5 job.

01:44:00.140 Yeah, I don't know.

01:44:03.800 Your car rental, like really?

01:44:06.060 People did used to work in agricultural societies where they would all work together as a family

01:44:11.660 on the farm.

01:44:12.740 So I think working is a fundamental part of life that we're kind of ignoring here.

01:44:18.060 Wait, but hold on.

01:44:18.700 It's not throwing out all your work to marry some billionaire for money.

01:44:22.300 Like there are other parts of life that work together that I think the questions ignore.

01:44:27.060 Well, so you're saying, so if I were to go back in time when we were like an agrarian

01:44:32.760 or agricultural society or even like industrial, I don't even know.

01:44:37.240 And we went back.

01:44:38.220 So, okay, some family's living on the farm and all the kids fucking wake up at 5 a.m.

01:44:43.960 The wife wakes up there.

01:44:46.200 Everybody's working.

01:44:46.880 The boys, the girls, the wife, they're all working, milking cows or some shit, whatever.

01:44:50.960 Or, I don't know, tending to the crops.

01:44:54.300 You think if they were given the opportunity, hey, you guys can live on your farm, still

01:44:58.700 live on your farm, but like all the shit will just be automated for you?

01:45:02.180 You don't think that they take the trade?

01:45:04.960 I think living like that makes you sluggish and kind of messes up your brain.

01:45:10.080 I think there's good things about work that, you know, you can find fulfillment in that

01:45:15.900 too.

01:45:16.340 So, you think if I went down to like, went back to like, what is it, fiefdoms or like

01:45:21.820 surfs in the middle ages or some shit.

01:45:26.480 They're just like in some like super rainy place in Europe and there's just like muddy

01:45:31.200 ditches like in England and it's just fucking cloudy and miserable all the time.

01:45:34.800 And they're just shoveling.

01:45:35.840 Their entire life is just shoveling fucking dirt and mud.

01:45:39.320 You think they wouldn't, like they wouldn't take, not even for a million dollars, they're

01:45:42.700 just like, hey, somebody can come do this job for you and all your benefits, you keep

01:45:47.580 your benefits, but you just get to kick it.

01:45:50.160 You don't think they take the trade?

01:45:51.240 They're like, nah, I want to shovel this shit.

01:45:53.400 Well, why do older people get jobs even if they don't need the money?

01:45:56.720 I think there's fulfillment in that.

01:45:58.480 That's a compelling argument.

01:46:00.400 I would say that has to do with a lack of imagination.

01:46:04.340 So, these people, when they're older, they get bored.

01:46:06.500 Uh, I think that that's just, there's things to do absent work.

01:46:11.560 I think that that's a lack of imagination.

01:46:13.800 Uh, if you're, I mean, you might say, well, traveling eventually gets boring.

01:46:19.120 Um.

01:46:19.720 What do we define as work though?

01:46:21.640 Are we defining work as something that gives us a salary, something that can, is earned

01:46:25.520 or is work, let's say.

01:46:27.260 Volunteering.

01:46:27.580 Building a homestead.

01:46:28.840 Volunteering.

01:46:29.340 It's still labor.

01:46:30.700 You know, you're still sweating.

01:46:32.560 You're still grunting.

01:46:33.460 You're still slugging around logs, but you're working towards something.

01:46:36.480 I think work is fulfillment.

01:46:38.760 You're kind of missing a huge port.

01:46:41.060 Because it's such a Western mindset that work is fulfillment.

01:46:43.240 It is fulfillment if you're working towards something that brings you passion.

01:46:46.180 So, her conversation about psychology.

01:46:48.320 Absolutely.

01:46:48.900 Do I want to be a stagehand slugging around amps for the rest of my life?

01:46:52.160 Is it what I want to build my whole career on?

01:46:54.180 Is that my identity?

01:46:55.160 No, but you know what?

01:46:56.020 I slug around gear for four hours a day and I get to see a beautiful show and that is

01:47:00.140 like, in that moment, it brings me peace.

01:47:02.440 It brings me joy.

01:47:03.140 I think, I don't know, man.

01:47:05.400 Is this like a dating podcast or a money podcast?

01:47:07.760 Let's talk about love.

01:47:08.300 I already answered your question.

01:47:09.960 You know?

01:47:10.420 This is completely, it's literally baked into the question is, would you date?

01:47:14.920 Because she turned down billionaires and then it segues into like, because I think,

01:47:20.260 and this is actually, you say it's not about dating, but I'm actually prepared to completely

01:47:24.220 refute and destroy your point here, is it's actually, this is probably one of the most

01:47:29.480 pressing issues as it relates to dating, as it relates to marriage, and as it relates

01:47:34.460 to, I mean, the propagation.

01:47:36.140 I mean, you can't really extract having children from, well, I mean, people can be child-free

01:47:41.480 or whatever, but for the furtherance of humanity, people need to have children, obviously super

01:47:48.340 important, if we have put propaganda out there, which, if we've put propaganda out there to

01:47:57.840 propagandize women to put career first and say family comes secondary, which has been the

01:48:08.240 case, which has been massive amounts of, unfortunately, extremely successful feminist propaganda, then

01:48:15.920 that's going to have an impact on how late people get married, it's going to have an impact on

01:48:20.420 fertility, if you start having kids, look, to be clear, you can have kids into your late 30s,

01:48:25.700 even 40s, it becomes harder, some people face fertility issues, we're below replacement, at

01:48:31.760 least of the, I mean, it depends which, which country you're looking at. If you look at the so-called

01:48:38.540 native populations of a lot of European countries, feminist propaganda below replacement level,

01:48:47.780 going to be massive population collapse, massive demographic changes in not just the United States,

01:48:54.540 well, sorry, I should say not just in Europe, but also in the United States, Western countries,

01:48:58.820 we see this happening in Korea, Japan, et cetera, it's going to be massive, massive societal issues.

01:49:04.480 Um, the reason it's related to finances is, uh, women have been propagandized. I'm not saying,

01:49:14.220 I'm not saying, oh, just become a trad wife and get married and have kids at 18. That's not

01:49:18.700 necessarily, it's not necessarily what I'm saying, but there's been a massive push to, to be like,

01:49:27.500 okay, boss, babe, boss, babe, boss, babe, career, career, career. That's ultimate fulfillment. And,

01:49:34.140 uh, husband, marriage, secondary. And then it has a negative impact on the children too,

01:49:40.000 because if you want to be a boss, babe, career woman, that's great. Well, that's where it becomes

01:49:46.940 complicated. So I personally think, look, I, to be clear, I'll preface this by saying both parents

01:49:53.400 can work and that doesn't mean your child's going to turn out terribly. That's not the case. Uh,

01:50:00.980 however, if we're talking about maximizing results, if we're talking about min maxing,

01:50:07.120 if we're talking about what's most optimum, what's most optimal, I think the most optimal thing

01:50:12.960 would be you have the parent taking care of the child, not here's a, okay, go to childcare where

01:50:22.320 some minimum wage worker isn't going to change their diapers as frequently as they should, isn't

01:50:26.860 going to feed them as frequently as they should. Uh, I think the ultimate thing would be, honestly,

01:50:32.220 look, if you're rich enough as a woman and your husband's cool with it, even better for the husband

01:50:37.600 to be staying at home than pawning your child off to some fucking daycare or a great nanny or whatever

01:50:46.340 it is. Uh, but the re economic reality due to a bunch of reasons in order to actually, for most

01:50:53.180 people, the financial and the economic reality, two people will have to work in order to have a

01:50:59.960 family. There's a bunch of reasons for that that we don't have to get into, but I do think it is the

01:51:05.880 best for the child. If we do approach it from a more traditional dynamic dynamic is husband breadwinner

01:51:13.320 wife, stay home and take care of the kids. That's the best thing for the children. And I believe once

01:51:20.900 you do have children, your selfish ego driven desires for fulfillment from career, I, I believe,

01:51:31.980 and this applies to men too, right? Your selfish desires as a man ought to take a backseat to the

01:51:39.100 interest of your children. You had something good. Yeah. So as a woman that works in a male dominated

01:51:45.780 industry, I've been a repo agent for five years. So I work 10 to 12 hour shifts. I used to do night

01:51:51.580 shifts and then I switched over to day shift. When you're young, it looks and appears like this is

01:51:57.660 how you're going to find fulfillment is by having a steady career and be able to take care of yourself,

01:52:02.200 right? It's something that like, it gives you that independence to where, Oh, any man can come into

01:52:09.240 your life and they can leave and you'll be all right. Right. But that is not how we were designed.

01:52:13.180 We were not created to have that kind of discord. The woman was actually created as the helper to the

01:52:20.280 man. Okay. They're created to be an emotional support to the man while the man provides because

01:52:25.820 they are actually built for that 40, 50, 60 hour work week. And so now that I'm older and marriage

01:52:32.560 and I have found a new perspective on everything, um, there's no way I'd be able to take care of a

01:52:38.840 family. I can barely take care of myself because I get home so tired that cooking, even just a steak

01:52:45.460 is like a whole chore. So I end up with ramen or something super fast and go to sleep just so I can

01:52:51.780 do it all over again. There is no fulfillment. It's like being in a hamster wheel. And I would

01:52:57.920 absolutely have somebody wanted to go out on a date with me that wasn't billionaire that had the same

01:53:03.560 values as me and was, um, supportive in me being able to minister to people, even, um, financially

01:53:12.040 supporting my vision, um, with God. Then yeah, I would absolutely take that over working 40, 50, 60

01:53:20.240 hours, um, by myself. I understand where you're coming from, but I think that also kind of, there's a

01:53:26.240 difference between job and career like we talked about before. Well, even if you have a job or a,

01:53:35.060 well, sorry, even if you have a career, I don't think this actually challenges anything that I said

01:53:39.580 as it relates to, uh, what's best for the children. Yeah. I mean, I'd also like to, you know, I went on

01:53:47.540 for a bit there in response to what I said, does anybody have any objections? I feel like I don't agree

01:53:53.720 because I grew up with like two working parents and my mom, like she loves her job and she's a

01:53:59.340 food scientist. And obviously she's a food scientist, food scientist. Yeah. And she obviously

01:54:04.360 like, I mean, I could say in elementary school, I was kind of sometimes felt like sad because I had

01:54:09.240 to take the bus and some parents would drop their kids to school. But then as I grew older, I realized

01:54:13.560 like my mom's her own individual. Like she is still a very good mother. We had dinner as a family

01:54:19.240 every night. We, on the weekends they'd spend as much time as they could. And I feel like they had a

01:54:23.280 very, both my parents worked, but they still treated us like really good. And, and even in

01:54:27.560 high school though, my mom actually would have to drive an hour to work and drive an hour back

01:54:31.620 and would do like full days. And my dad was actually like cooking us dinner and he was doing a lot for

01:54:37.520 us, but I didn't ever feel like neglected by my mom. Like growing up, I still think she's like the

01:54:41.760 best mother she could have been. So I feel like it depends. Like maybe if some, if, but if you are a

01:54:46.560 parent and you're not giving enough attention to your children, yeah, then I could see you'd feel

01:54:50.340 neglected and that's not the best parenting, but coming from a person who's both parents worked

01:54:55.480 and they both worked a lot of hours, I still never felt neglected. And I think I grew up to be like

01:55:00.060 pretty. Yeah. And just to be clear, to reiterate here, the, the suggestion, the suggestion is not

01:55:06.240 that, you know, oh, everybody who's grown up in like a two parent household where, you know,

01:55:13.020 the man worked and the woman stayed home and took care of the kids, that all the children under that

01:55:18.720 dynamic always turn out like perfectly. And then in the other dynamic where both parents go out and

01:55:24.280 work, the children always turn out awfully. That's absolutely not the case. Uh, but I'm, I'm just

01:55:29.760 looking in terms of what is optimal, what is best. And again, my position would just be, uh, while it,

01:55:36.720 while it works, it can work. Things can be totally fine. I, again, I do think, and it sounds like it was

01:55:44.720 perfectly fine for you. There's no disputes there. I do think it is the best to have at least one

01:55:52.380 parent there who's taking care of the kid. Yeah. Like that's the, that's the most optimal.

01:55:58.580 That's the most optimal. And especially, I don't want to send my kid to, uh, to daycare,

01:56:04.280 to childcare. Yeah. Don't want to do it. So any objections from anybody else on panel? Wait,

01:56:10.800 actually, sorry. Before you do keep that, save it, save it. I need to let some chats come

01:56:16.440 through. Sorry for the delay guys. I apologize. I should have got it in sooner. Sorry, man.

01:56:22.060 I'm donating Brian. I love yours and Andrew's work. I saw your post of that evil woman wanting

01:56:28.480 to hurt your innocent cat. Oh yeah. That's crazy. Happens to your cat. Me and the boys are ready

01:56:34.000 for war. Yeah. There's some, there's some wicked evil people out there, man. Say some weird

01:56:40.380 shit. Uh, but thank you, Teddy Westside. Sorry for the delay on that. Thank you for, uh, appreciate

01:56:45.780 your first time, uh, sending a, a dono here. Thank you, man. Doc Venabilis has missed donated

01:56:50.900 $200. Yo, thank you, man. These young ladies have been sold a bill of goods. Did you mean

01:56:55.720 a false bill? Any of you value motherhood over boss bimbo? You will reach age 50, childless,

01:57:01.380 oh shit. Driveled hoo-ha, and Zoloft dependent. Anybody want to respond to, uh, Doc Venabilis?

01:57:09.480 May I? Yeah. I do want to be a mama. I do want to be mama's self. I absolutely. So there

01:57:14.620 will, but I also do want to work. Maybe it's not as much as in the future my husband works,

01:57:20.200 but also keep in mind our age groups here. We just left. I'm talking 17, 18, 19. I left home

01:57:27.520 a little earlier than usual. I left home at 17, and I've been living alone since then. We just

01:57:31.820 barely stepped into adulthood. I get it. Biologically, we're fertile. We can pop out kids

01:57:37.200 now, but that's really not the move, and we've seen it several times before. It's good to wait

01:57:41.340 until you're in your 20s. Our brains are developing. So you know what? I'm seeing this. If you don't

01:57:46.720 want me asking, how old are you? 33. 33. How old are you, sir? 36. 36. You guys are coming from a

01:57:52.440 perspective of a decade over us. Yeah. So it's not like we're inherently wrong. You're inherently

01:57:59.160 right or vice versa. We have to take into account. We're still developing. I'm still, and this is to

01:58:05.680 prove your point. I do want to be a mama, and I do have those random spurts of, damn, I kind of want a

01:58:11.040 kid right now. I kind of want baby fever, brother. I want to be sitting there making pies for my kid,

01:58:15.000 but at the end of the day, I also still want to fulfill something for myself. So why can there

01:58:18.660 not be both? Why can I not build something along with my partner, and when the time comes, you know,

01:58:25.160 if the split is, okay, we're going from 50-50 work, building something for our family, and then once

01:58:30.740 we build that family, maybe my work is a little bit less and his is a little bit more. It's not so

01:58:36.880 black and white. It's not about some boss bimbo shit. It's about just general autonomy. It is all in

01:58:42.120 our divine nature. It is, as you were saying, I'm not inherently Christian, but I do believe

01:58:46.680 in that value that while they're, look, I'm androgynous. I'm super androgynous. What does

01:58:51.380 that have to do with anything? Because I'm saying I have a masculiness, and so I have a lot of masculine

01:58:55.840 aspirations, but at the end of the day, it's natural. It's in our DNA to want to nurture. I'm

01:59:01.840 sorry. I talk really loud. Continue. Go ahead. But you got to give us at least a little bit of the slack

01:59:05.860 of, we're still developing in ourselves. I want to ask a question. Let me do a quick response,

01:59:11.120 and I'll let you go, then I'll let you go. So, you know, I understand that I'm a bit older than

01:59:16.320 some of you. However, I also was also once 18, 19, 20. And if somebody asked me when I was 18,

01:59:24.260 19, 20, slogging away through college, and they were like, hey, Brian, you know, you have your little,

01:59:30.420 you know, your ambitions with, you know, you want to do career, you want to get an education. Mind you,

01:59:37.500 at least Mike's, I know people have varying experiences in college. I found college to

01:59:42.240 frankly be a massive waste of time. I always thought, well, at least after I dropped out,

01:59:48.680 never to let college get in the way of your education. In any case, I'm sure the college

01:59:56.500 girls are going to love that one. If somebody proposed to me, Brian, if at 18, some billionaire

02:00:04.980 woman came along and was like, hey, I'll marry you. You don't have to work. We're good.

02:00:12.440 There's no question. I don't, you know, back when I was 18, who knows what I could, you know,

02:00:17.740 who knows? I would have taken it. And you might say, well, Brian, retrospectively, trust me,

02:00:23.540 at 18, I would have taken that shit. Even, even though the male biological imperative is to

02:00:30.860 provide, still take it, still take the trade. So that's just what's in it. I don't know. It's

02:00:37.080 kind of interesting. It's kind of interesting. Oh yeah. Oh, well, hold on. I want to go in order

02:00:42.680 here, but really quick. Wait, did I, did the one from pasty George come in a message from the

02:00:49.560 government of Canada? Pasty George. I'll let you guys go after this. Hold on. Sorry for the delay,

02:00:54.320 Pasty. I'm sorry. Since ancient times, men have worked for the sake of their families.

02:00:59.680 Their actual fulfillment is knowing they have a legacy, which is their kids. Women have lost that

02:01:05.640 because of feminism. Good point, Pasty George. Thank you, man. Good to see you in the chat.

02:01:10.620 Sorry for the delay, man. My bad. I was in, I was in the midst. So I think you go, you go, you go.

02:01:16.320 So going back to what we were talking about before, the world is also changing. We, you can

02:01:22.020 work from home now. Well, it depends. It depends where we're talking about. Sorry, I didn't mean to

02:01:26.960 interrupt you. Go ahead. But you can work from home. Both parents can have a job, work from home,

02:01:32.060 and still take care of their children. And they can still be attentive too. Like you can have different

02:01:36.620 schedules. Like for example, my mom works at 4 a.m. to like 12. And then my dad is always working.

02:01:44.600 Um, but it, that's always worked for us because she's still there to take care of us. There's

02:01:53.580 always been, like the point is you can have two parents working and it can still be beneficial

02:01:59.780 for the kids and you have an extra income as well. Okay. What did you have? I would just say

02:02:07.040 that I would honestly give up my businesses to raise kids, you know, if it worked for our family.

02:02:13.420 I like my want and need to build something for myself has almost zero impact on situational

02:02:21.700 choices. But I think after your kids age out, when it's 25 years down the line, I'll still want to keep

02:02:28.200 working and do something productive. And I want to ask everybody here if you would do that as well.

02:02:33.740 Yes. Yes. To an extent? Yes. Do, do what? Can you, do what? If you would give up just for a time,

02:02:43.220 your career is to raise kids and then go back to it. If you were given the choice. I think that's,

02:02:49.380 if the answer is yes, how long? Are we talking career pursuits long-term? Like, you know,

02:02:56.860 her studying for her PhD or are we talking careers in your day-to-day job? Like,

02:03:01.860 wait, wait, wait, hold on. Let's, let me make this simpler. Uh, who here wants kids?

02:03:05.440 Show of hands. You don't want kids? No kids? Maybe it'll change. Who knows? I already have one.

02:03:12.500 Yeah. Yeah. You want more kids? Maybe kids? No kids? Don't want kids. Okay. Maybe it'll change.

02:03:17.800 Who knows? As of right now, no. Well, no, no. So just to be clear, I don't mean, I don't mean like,

02:03:21.820 uh, kids right now. I, you know, I, I totally understand that, but maybe. Yeah. Down, as of

02:03:28.260 right now, down the line. In your late, mid, late twenties, early thirties, even then a hundred

02:03:34.100 percent certain. I mean, maybe, maybe it would change, but yeah. But don't even see it down the

02:03:39.880 line. No. Why? Just curious why. I'm just curious why. Um, that's just like not the life I see for

02:03:46.140 myself. I like kids and everything, but I kind of just want to work and I would want to get married,

02:03:51.180 but I'm happy with just those two. What's the point of getting married? I, anyways. I mean,

02:03:55.920 I want a partner though. I want a partner for life. Just have a boyfriend for life. Well, I don't,

02:04:00.060 I kind of like that. You've been dating a boyfriend for two years. He's also on board. I'm assuming with

02:04:04.680 the no kids. Yeah. I mean, he, I, he, I'm, we've talked, I mean, I don't know. He like, he

02:04:10.100 isn't pressure me or anything. I mean, he maybe wants kids, but after being with me, I think he's also

02:04:14.580 just realizing he maybe doesn't want it. So like, have you guys had the convo or I

02:04:20.100 had a convo, like nothing serious. It's just, I said, like, if I were to marry someone, they

02:04:24.060 have to be, they have to respect that. I probably won't have kids and I don't want to feel pressured

02:04:27.860 about it. And so, and he said, and he was fine with it. And I mean, I don't think he, I mean,

02:04:33.340 we don't really know. I know. I don't really want kids. He doesn't think he wants kids either.

02:04:37.100 So sure. Uh, why don't you guys want kids? Just, I just don't see it. Don't want to push out a

02:04:42.880 football out of the, absolutely not. Babies are big, you know, might be painful. What

02:04:49.640 about you? I just don't see myself being something that a child like not needs growing up, but

02:04:58.180 I don't, as of right now, I'm not kind of that nurturing, loving person. I do believe

02:05:02.900 that a child deserves to be 100% cared for and nurtured to the fullest. And I think as of

02:05:10.360 right now, I'm not someone that would be very like empathetic if something, I don't

02:05:17.900 really know how to explain it, but. If it was your child that came out of your body,

02:05:21.640 I think you would, you would feel that. George donated $200 and four cents. If women are still

02:05:28.460 developing mentally until the age of 25, then why do they have the right to vote at 18?

02:05:34.120 Shouldn't they be incompetent and thus denied voting until age 25?

02:05:37.820 Humans, Pasty George, humans are still developing mentally until the age of 25.

02:05:43.280 That'd actually take longer to develop mentally.

02:05:45.360 Yeah, exactly.

02:05:46.520 That, that doesn't mean anything.

02:05:48.400 Well, so then should we, uh, including both men and women, should we raise the voting age

02:05:52.840 to 25 for both?

02:05:54.880 That leans into a whole different conversation.

02:05:56.920 I'm okay with that. I'd be okay with that.

02:05:58.960 Yeah. With that in mind, can we still buy a gun at 21, but can't vote until 25? Or are we

02:06:04.480 changing all of these to 25?

02:06:05.800 You gotta, hold on. Please don't make me have to remind you once more. I've, how many times

02:06:10.580 has it been? Five, 10? You gotta speak closer to the mic, okay?

02:06:13.420 I'm sorry, sir.

02:06:14.100 Just do, it's, just make the fix.

02:06:16.340 I'm sorry.

02:06:16.820 Finish your, finish your thought.

02:06:18.060 Um, well, this is leaning to a whole other conversation, but if we're going to be changing

02:06:22.340 voting age to 25, why don't we change all the other things that come with adulthood

02:06:26.360 to 25, including drinking?

02:06:28.020 Here, read this from Rachel Wilson. Read that from Rachel Wilson.

02:06:31.600 Stop the cope. You don't want the responsibility and don't want to have to think of anything

02:06:34.740 but yourself. Shame.

02:06:38.920 Appreciate that, but, uh, I do want the responsibility.

02:06:43.320 I respect, I respect your opinion, though.

02:06:45.500 Uh, somebody else had, had something I think you wanted to jump in. I'm going to step away

02:06:49.300 for just a moment. Go ahead, though.

02:06:51.400 Um, yeah, I just wanted to say, actually, when I was, um, 18, um, right before I actually

02:06:59.400 met the, the father of my son, I met someone who was much older than me at the time, uh,

02:07:07.660 too, but who wanted, who actually gave me the offer to settle down. Um, and I didn't take

02:07:14.840 it because I just wasn't attracted to him and he was much older and all of these things.

02:07:19.700 And he told me, like, I'll put you through school and I'll do all these, you know, these

02:07:23.640 things. And, and then I, you know, kind of refused it and went on to meet my now ex.

02:07:31.040 And I can just tell you that, um, being older and a little bit wiser that if, not that if

02:07:38.240 I could go back in time because I would never not want to have my son, but I, I will say

02:07:43.560 that that choice of me refusing that, like, an easier life as opposed to, like, the struggles

02:07:52.260 that I endured for decades and the trauma that I endured for decades after, um, it changes

02:08:01.860 you, you know, it really changes you. So I would just, I know you guys are all very, very

02:08:07.020 young and you don't have, you know, you don't have as much life experience, but, um, it really

02:08:12.720 does change you as a person. Yeah. And, um, yeah, that's all.

02:08:16.980 And I think had I gone through or had any of us had that retrospective stance that you have,

02:08:21.940 and it seems like you have a little bit as well. We probably would agree with that.

02:08:25.560 However, I, well, so when I was like younger, like you got your age, 18, 19, 20s, whatever,

02:08:31.640 I never wanted kids either. And I was all about like the feminist movement and moving towards,

02:08:37.200 you know, just a career, figuring my life out, like no guy's going to come in the middle

02:08:42.760 of that. Like no kids, never wanted kids ever. Um, but there comes a point when you get

02:08:47.940 to a certain age where like you realize it was kind of backwards the way that you were

02:08:52.980 thinking and the reality of like all those years wasted kind of hits you. And I'm not

02:09:01.200 saying it in a way that I'm going to, I'm trying to say that I don't agree with your perspective

02:09:06.660 because I've been there. I've, I've been there. I've thought those same things and I'm not arguing

02:09:11.360 that I'm better than or, or worse than anybody. I am just saying out of my experience that I hope

02:09:17.740 it resonates with you now. And maybe one day you'll look back and be like, Oh, you know,

02:09:22.660 I was just like trying to give you loving advice, um, for the future.

02:09:27.420 Yeah. Same for me as well. Like, cause, cause when you're young, you know, um, you don't,

02:09:33.020 you don't see the foreseeable future. You're thinking about, you know, your present moment and how

02:09:37.420 you want to, you know, thrive. And as you should, I mean, I don't want to take that away from any of

02:09:42.240 you. You should focus on yourselves and your life and your betterment and your personal growth and

02:09:46.740 development. But honestly, like when you're in a car scrounging for change because you can't afford

02:09:53.500 McDonald's, you know what I mean? As opposed to like being, having your school paid for and like

02:10:00.860 it, it's just a completely different lifestyle.

02:10:03.440 You know, once you're living it, you know, you guys have a wisdom and I can't speak for the rest

02:10:07.660 of the ones who are, you know, 18, 19, you know, our age, but at least the way I see it is,

02:10:11.480 I don't know this. I haven't lived through this circumstance yet, but I can look in your eyes

02:10:16.440 and I can tell that there is truth in this. It's just not a truth that I or any of us have experienced

02:10:21.220 yet. And maybe that's something we just naturally have to go through. I think I'm already getting baby

02:10:25.920 fever, man. You know, if I were given that opportunity that he was the hypothetical that he was talking

02:10:30.300 about marrying a billionaire, it was, it was a pretty weird hypothetical because it was all

02:10:34.160 based on money. But let's say my karmic, you know, the love of my life, you know, same with

02:10:39.760 y'all, the love of your life, your absolute dream man also happened to be grinding and give you that

02:10:45.640 easy life when you're in the midst of the struggle that we haven't experienced yet. We probably take

02:10:50.020 it too. We're just not there yet. That is the beauty of feminism. It's not, it's to have the

02:10:54.540 choice. It's to have the choice of to be a stay at home mom or to be hardworking and everything

02:11:01.740 in between. That's truly what it is. It's to have the free will. If you want to be a child

02:11:05.520 wife, hell yeah. I can see myself being a child wife when I'm like 80, cooking pies for my

02:11:09.380 grandkids, milking, milking the cows, you know, bringing some, some cereal. My dad comes home.

02:11:15.420 Not my dad. Oh my God. It's so hot.

02:11:17.020 By the way, just to your point, it's never too late to find love. I just want to let you

02:11:22.680 guys know that because I feel, no, it's no, honestly, it's truly not. No, I've, I've met

02:11:29.140 people personally. I've worked with people who are significantly older and they're 60s,

02:11:34.320 70s and they've gotten married and they found love. So like, I wouldn't say that there, if

02:11:41.960 you want to have kids, there is obviously a very biological timeline. Of course. Yes.

02:11:47.020 There's, you know, but to find love and to find like a meaningful connection, you can

02:11:51.620 find that at any point in time. So I met an 80 year old the other day who told me that

02:11:56.320 he just got married. Yeah. And also there's always adoption and other options as well for

02:12:02.980 having a kid. I'm 19 and I want kids. I find it really strange when I meet other women that

02:12:09.380 are not maternal and don't have that instinct, but like to each their own. I do think some women

02:12:13.500 should not be mothers. I agree. But it's weird and unnatural to not be maternal. Like,

02:12:22.020 do you know what I mean? To not crave that is, that's like, I think literally in our DNA.

02:12:28.000 I think it depends. It depends on how you're, how you're raised. Yeah. So for me, I was raised.

02:12:34.360 No, no, no. I'm saying, um, wanting a child or not wanting a child. It really, it depends on how

02:12:39.680 you're raised and like, you know, the nature versus nurture type thing. That's what I'm

02:12:44.740 saying. I suppose. I don't know. I just find it a little, um, sociopathic when I meet a

02:12:51.080 woman that's not maternal at all. Maternal in nature, I think we all have, but she does

02:12:55.880 bring up a good point. Extensive family abuse and trauma can warp your perception of what

02:13:01.200 family means. That that's what I mean. Our nurture is all, I don't know about y'all, but

02:13:07.400 I've been taking care of little animals since I was like four years old. I got a

02:13:10.800 gator tattooed on my foot cause I took care of a little gator. I called, he was my, he

02:13:14.500 was my son, right? We all have that. But a lot of people go through traumas that turn

02:13:19.100 them away for the same reason that a lot of people are opposed to love, opposed to

02:13:23.000 marriage because there's, there's a nature, nurture a nature dynamic. That's all I'm

02:13:27.020 going to say. But I agree with you. I'm 19 and I also want kids. And this is coming

02:13:30.620 from someone who, like you said, is pretty dude-ish, you know, in, in demeanor. I got, I got

02:13:35.080 a fair amount of androgyny, but at the end of the day, I'm girl. I want to soulfully

02:13:38.820 scrambling around. I'll teach him how to climb towers. That's my train of thought.

02:13:42.540 Yeah. For me, I feel like I came from a house that wasn't very.

02:13:49.240 Nurturing. Nurturing. So obviously there's a lot of love or there was a lot of love in

02:13:53.480 my household and everything, but there wasn't like, let's say I'm like, I lost a tennis match

02:13:58.840 or something like that. There's no like, like, like there wasn't like, okay, I'll

02:14:03.780 take you guys to go get pizza or I'll bake you cookies. Like when you're sad, it's more

02:14:07.260 get up, thug it out and life goes on.

02:14:12.260 I was also raised similarly.

02:14:14.080 So it's not that, you know, I don't feel like, um, like obviously like I would love to

02:14:19.560 have children, things like that. But where I'm at currently in like kind of my head space

02:14:24.480 is I wouldn't want to give a child like a disservice because I can't do that for someone

02:14:28.940 else. But that's just my take.

02:14:31.180 So what I had said earlier.

02:14:32.160 One sec, one sec. I'll let you come in.

02:14:34.120 $29 donated $200. Your mindsets of not wanting children will eventually kill off the species.

02:14:42.780 South Korea is a prime example of this. Quit drinking the feminist Kool-Aid. You will regret

02:14:48.980 it later in life. Trust me.

02:14:51.480 Uh, yo, Teddy, Teddy Westside. Wait, is this like a, a how I met your mother?

02:15:00.840 Teddy, Teddy Westside. Yo, thank you, man. Teddy Westside. Uh, appreciate it. Send in another

02:15:06.300 one. Confirm or deny if you're a how I met your mother fan. You got pasty here.

02:15:10.620 The government of Canada. Pasty George donated $200 and four cents. Nice. Many women infected

02:15:17.540 with feminism should heed the warnings from women like Kate Mulvey, Nora Vincent, Candice

02:15:22.980 Owens, Rachel Wilson, Bettina Ant, and more. Their stories and advice are gold. Yo, pasty

02:15:29.940 George. Thank you, man. By the way, pasty George here. Uh, he's a Canadian. He's a very intelligent

02:15:35.080 Canadian man. Very intelligent. So, you know, you should always listen to a Canadian. I don't

02:15:42.940 know what I just said. I'm Canadian. You're Canadian?

02:15:45.440 Both of my parents were born there. Oh, do you have citizenship or? I could get it, but

02:15:50.200 I don't actively have it. Uh, oh, I have a question, but I know you wanted to come in.

02:15:54.200 What, what did you have to say? Yeah, no. Um, I guess I kept getting interrupted every time

02:15:58.660 I tried to say this. It's okay. Um, no. So I understand feeling like you don't have the

02:16:03.900 nurturing ability. I was raised by my father, right? I, my mom left to Argentina and then

02:16:08.600 I got involved with drugs really young and I just was always like trying to be like my

02:16:13.040 dad. So that's why I have more of that masculine side to me. Um, but when it comes from you, when

02:16:22.000 the baby is in your body and it's being formed, I definitely think that it would just naturally

02:16:29.120 come to you. And I think we get in our own head space about how we're supposed to feel

02:16:35.120 and if we are actually built for this, but like you are, you are built for this. And until

02:16:41.360 that time comes when like, there's no way that you're going to see your own flesh and blood

02:16:45.240 and not have love and affection and empathy for it. There is something spiritual about it.

02:16:50.900 Yeah. There is something absolutely spiritual about it. Right. With the point of feminism,

02:16:55.660 I'm a feminist, but I want to be a mother and I am, if this is the situation, willing to

02:17:04.380 try that same home lifestyle. If that is what's best for my family, but I don't want to give

02:17:09.160 up, not my, but our creative pursuits for this. I know identical twin sisters raise equally

02:17:15.940 one wants children. The other does not. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. But it's, I've seen it first

02:17:22.900 in, you know, I watched my little sister be born and that was, and like I said, I'm not

02:17:27.740 inherently Christian, but I am omnistic. So I believe in your faith. I believe in, I believe

02:17:35.700 in a God, a creator. And there is nothing more pure and holy than seeing a newborn child

02:17:41.080 and that awoke something in me at a very young age. And I want that. Just not yet. Yes.

02:17:46.620 Sorry.

02:17:48.000 All right.

02:17:48.860 Can I say, I want to say something controversial. Is that okay?

02:17:52.100 Yeah, go ahead.

02:17:52.500 To your point?

02:17:53.160 Yeah.

02:17:53.340 It's a little bit controversial because as a mom, I can tell you, yes, having a child

02:17:59.880 does change your life and it does make you look at the bigger picture, of course, because

02:18:06.060 how can you not? You know, you're literally alive to keep another human being alive. However,

02:18:12.720 I will say not everybody is inherently born with a maternal instinct. I've seen it. I've experienced

02:18:19.200 it. Even myself because of the things that I, I would say I am very nurturing, but because

02:18:26.260 of what I endured in that relationship, it deeply affected me and traumatized me and it

02:18:32.960 really actually affected my son. And it affected me being a parent to my son because of the previous

02:18:40.840 experiences. So it's all like a learning curve and experience. And to your point also, I think

02:18:46.640 it is wise for you to know your limitations and for you to know like where you're at, to have

02:18:53.740 that self-awareness because I myself didn't. And I think now looking back, it potentially caused my

02:18:59.600 son a lot of unnecessary harm. So yeah, I think you're both right. Yeah.

02:19:07.840 So next question here. Uh, okay. Would you rather clean sewers for a hundred thousand dollars or have

02:19:19.980 a high profile fulfilling job, but you make zero, you make no money? What do you mean by high profile

02:19:28.520 fulfilling job? Uh, you're an attorney, you're a doctor, you're, but you can't make any money from

02:19:33.820 it. Can't make any money. So clean sewers for a hundred thousand dollars or whatever. You can,

02:19:41.600 you can pick the job, whatever it would be. You can't, can't be like rock star or like it can't

02:19:48.420 be something like where the status is like insane. Wait, are you getting any money from anywhere else?

02:19:55.140 Yeah. Good question. No. So like you're not surviving then because you make money, uh, unless you marry

02:20:02.020 a rich guy or, uh, you just have, I don't know. Yeah. You're not making money. So it's like a high

02:20:07.320 profile unpaid internship versus a dirty work job, but you're getting paid fat stacks. No, it's not an

02:20:13.880 internship. You're not fetching coffee for a doctor's office. You're, you're the doctor. You're the lawyer.

02:20:19.960 Correct. So it's volunteer work essentially. Sure. It's volunteer.

02:20:25.140 Interesting one. I'm gonna get back to you on that. I'm gonna get back to you.

02:20:28.680 You got to pick one. Here else. Can I start? Can I start? Okay. We'll come back. I got to pick

02:20:32.860 real quick. Which do you pick? Well, I mean, you need money to survive in this world. So I would

02:20:36.280 obviously pick the one paying you money. You can't live without the money. Okay. What do you pick?

02:20:41.600 Yeah. I'd have to do the sewer. Cause how can I see that? Sewer. I think. Oh, sorry. My bad. I meant the opposite.

02:20:47.920 I would do the non paying. Okay. Yeah. Just live in poverty, but yeah. Yeah. I think the fulfilling job you said,

02:20:54.140 if you have a husband, you know. Maybe does that kind of destroy the purpose of the hypothetical a

02:21:03.740 little bit? Chat should, uh, let me ask the chat. Um, Hmm. Should there be chat? Do we, do we allow

02:21:14.540 them to like have a rich? I mean, I don't know. Yeah. We got all the hypotheticals.

02:21:19.460 What if you're a doctor and you take donations? How about, how about this? Um, let's just fast

02:21:24.460 forward. You are married, but, uh, your husband isn't earning enough. Like, uh, he earns enough

02:21:36.740 where you guys are just getting by. You're just getting by, but you guys are going to have

02:21:41.200 like face certain financial issues, blah, blah, blah. So you're not like destitute, but

02:21:48.600 yeah. How about that? So we're, if, if it means taking care of not just myself, but the family

02:21:57.420 that I build, I'll do whatever, I'll do whatever it takes. I'll clean up dog shit. Sorry for

02:22:01.720 my language, but I will do what I have to do to take care of the family that we'll have down

02:22:05.280 online. What about you? Yeah. Yeah. Sewer still then. I stick with my choice. I think just

02:22:13.740 getting by is just getting by. So I'd, I'd stick with my choice. I'd take whatever it gives

02:22:19.340 the most money, which is sewers. I agree. Sewer. I don't like this question. I feel like this

02:22:30.700 is like setting up for some sort of like checkmate that's kind of like already on a very intricate

02:22:36.860 thing. It's definitely a setup. It's a setup. That's what it feels like. It feels like a

02:22:41.300 setup. How is it? You're, I think you're overthinking it to be honest. I got to overthink

02:22:45.240 it. We're on the whatever podcast. I think the root of the question is money versus the

02:22:49.760 fulfillment. Look, here's the point of the question is here's the point of the question. I guess

02:22:54.620 you, uh, if you ask men and women, this question, men are far more likely to pick the sewer job

02:23:00.320 and women are far more likely to pick the unpaid, but like, uh, you know, kind of more, more

02:23:06.200 glamorous, let's say career. That makes sense. Yeah. I mean, that checks out because men are a bit

02:23:11.480 more money motivated than women are providing motivated. I think let's, let's shift that

02:23:16.240 mentality. If we're talking about a traditional providing, you know, let's, let's, let's get money

02:23:21.540 out of this money is here to provide, right? So that's easy for, as a woman to say, but let me

02:23:29.220 explain why this will never go away. Okay. So this idea, so just to be clear, your contention

02:23:36.820 is with me saying men are more motivated to get money. Okay. Yeah. Is that, was that, do you,

02:23:43.240 do you disagree? Is that your contention? No, actually you think women are just as motivated

02:23:48.360 as men are. I think recently we've been getting more and more motivated, but if we really zoom

02:23:53.280 out on the time scale, no. Yeah. So men have historically been more on the must provide

02:23:59.040 for my family. I would even argue modern day today. Yes. No, I agree. Well, men are more

02:24:05.560 motivated to make money because of the, the binary that we've established for several millennia

02:24:11.840 already. It's kind of ingrained within us. Who established it? Ourselves. Is it men? You think

02:24:17.400 so? Yeah, that's how it started. I'll, I'll, I'll frame it like this. Uh, so I think when it comes

02:24:23.320 to survival needs, I would argue that men and women have comparable motivation as it relates to making

02:24:29.440 money related to survival, right? That's the most important thing. You need money to survive. You need

02:24:37.280 food, you need water, you need a house, you need shelter, et cetera, et cetera. Both men and women need

02:24:43.660 those two things. Both of them, whether you're a man or woman, you're paying the same rent. You're

02:24:49.520 paying the same, well, men actually, maybe I'm being a bit pedantic. Men probably pay a little bit more

02:24:55.240 for food because we have a higher calorie requirement. Anyways, that's kind of irrelevant. Um,

02:25:00.640 very minor fucking nitpick on my, myself, I guess. Um, however, uh, the, I would say the second

02:25:09.020 most important, uh, biological imperative, uh, next to survival would be to have kids to reproduce

02:25:18.920 and the, the, the mechanism by which people reproduce is engage in monogamous. Well, it doesn't,

02:25:28.880 I guess, I suppose it doesn't have to be monogamous, but you need to have a relationship. You need to

02:25:32.660 date. You need to be appealing to the opposite sex. Women's finances are nearly completely irrelevant

02:25:39.920 to your attraction to the opposite sex. Men overwhelmingly don't care for certain, uh, you

02:25:49.420 know, to be charitable. There are certain economic and financial realities to like most people,

02:25:56.200 both people are going to need to work. That's the economic reality, but the woman's money or her

02:26:01.740 success doesn't make her more attractive to men. Whereas the same isn't really true in the opposite

02:26:09.360 direction. Um, now I know most of you, a lot of you are young, you're in college. You probably don't

02:26:14.480 give a fuck about, Oh my God, he's got a great job. You don't care. You're dating college guys.

02:26:18.980 They're broke. You probably don't care. You're just like, he's fun. He's cool. He's hot. That's

02:26:23.980 probably all you care about. Maybe he's a good person, the dream, you know, not very few men at the

02:26:29.320 college age already are millionaires. If they are fantastic, but it's at least the dream or the

02:26:33.960 ambition of, Hey, I'm broke right now, but I want to start a business and I want to care for you and

02:26:38.440 your family. And I am 19 years old, so I don't have that yet, but I'm going to start that. That's

02:26:42.160 what my boyfriend is. I would argue, um, perhaps ambition as a woman gets older, becomes a bit more

02:26:48.260 of a priority. I think most 18, 19, 20 year old women are going to prioritize fun, good personality,

02:26:56.100 hot. I don't think most really. No, I, I have dated people who have had no ambition and it is

02:27:04.500 terrible. I need someone who, I'm not, I'm not suggesting that they have no ambition, but, um,

02:27:12.800 I would say I definitely look for that and intellect and you need to be emotionally, um,

02:27:19.260 um, emotionally intelligent too. You need to be able to communicate. You need to have

02:27:23.980 emotional intelligence plan for a future. We'll talk about emotional intelligence.

02:27:28.000 I also think that also depends like slightly on the way that you were raised and brought

02:27:32.660 up in my opinion. Yeah. But just to finish my point here on this, um, so as a man, if you want

02:27:41.460 to get romantic attention from the opposite sex, not to say, look, you could be broke and

02:27:48.980 fucking pulling, but, uh, for most men, uh, women place, I would say women, it's actually

02:27:59.540 women who uphold this year. We were talking about who set that up women, even in 2025, women

02:28:04.400 that have had the vote for a hundred years. Um, this idea that like, there's some evil patriarchy

02:28:10.460 that's like insisting that men pay for first dates. And it's actually just women's own individualistic

02:28:16.180 preferences that there's a tendency towards wanting men to pay for first dates. You enjoy

02:28:21.060 the benefit of not having to pay for the date. Women uphold this. There's no like evil male

02:28:26.680 conspiracy to be like, Hey men, we all want to waste money on dates. Not at all. It's actually

02:28:31.460 women who uphold this. So for a guy to be able to, and it really from pretty much anywhere across the

02:28:39.060 board for a guy to get laid, for a guy to get romantic interest back from a woman, for a guy to

02:28:45.420 uh, get into a relationship, for a guy to get eventually get married. Um, he has to,

02:28:51.360 uh, there's a financial component to that.

02:28:58.540 Like if I want to go on a date with a girl,

02:29:02.140 maybe look, I'll, I'll frame it like this. Let's say 50% of this country is conservative.

02:29:09.620 99% of conservative women want men to pay for first dates. And then the other 50% of women are liberal.

02:29:15.420 Even liberal women, progressive women, Kamala voters, Democrats, even liberal women love the

02:29:25.480 benefits of traditional gender dynamics. So long as it benefits them. So even liberal women, yeah,

02:29:31.800 guys should pay for the first date. Maybe I'm not saying all, but even if I were to be conservative

02:29:37.220 and say, you know what, it's, uh, of the 50% of the women who are liberal,

02:29:42.880 20%, uh, well, so I guess, here, let's just say 50% of liberal women want men to pay for first dates,

02:29:49.700 right? You can, you can bicker with me on that if you think it's less or you think it's more.

02:29:55.220 That means 75% of women have an expect, uh, uh, one directional gender expectation that men pay for first dates.

02:30:01.740 Okay. You've just introduced finances mattering when it comes to dating, getting laid, getting

02:30:09.620 relationship. So finances are absolutely inextricably linked from dating, even casual dating.

02:30:19.240 So I see the paradox you're trying to bring up and I cannot speak for myself. The paradox of no,

02:30:25.960 no, I understand what you mean. Like feminism are providing for yourself,

02:30:29.360 but enjoying the benefits of traditional values that are seen in conservatism.

02:30:33.140 I cannot speak on that. I can only speak from my own experiences.

02:30:37.400 I have never, like I said, never had a formal date. Every time something has happened,

02:30:41.240 I've paid for it just out of the love and care. Money does not matter to me. It is loyalty because

02:30:45.580 that is harder and harder to find, especially knowing that in our generation materialism,

02:30:49.220 it goes both ways on a broad generalization. Like I said, there are exceptions. We have a lot of

02:30:53.540 exceptions in this room, including myself, including her. There's materialism that goes both ways.

02:30:58.460 You know the reason I haven't had that many partners? I've had two or three.

02:31:02.640 I don't, I don't really show my body and that is what men seek out. That is what men desire.

02:31:06.440 I'm a little stinky. Uh, I, I do fairly quote unquote boyish masculine stuff, but when it comes

02:31:12.600 down to it, I am loyal and I'm, I'm feminine in my essence when I am loved and cared for.

02:31:17.160 We, um, how do I explain this? I did not develop masculinity or in other words, this cover to

02:31:25.760 gain male attention. It was to avoid male advantage. You know what I mean? I, I cover myself up to avoid

02:31:34.400 objectification. That, that's a whole other train of thought, but the materialism itself goes both

02:31:38.640 ways. There is, I guess on a very broad sense.

02:31:41.840 So just to be clear, you're like, what, what do you think about Muslim majority countries where

02:31:47.160 the women cover up? I mean, I'm, are you in favor of, I mean, the United States is pretty

02:31:52.860 liberal on this. Like they, we don't have like requirements to wear hijab. We don't have

02:31:57.780 requirements to wear that sort of Muslim garb. So you, would you be, are you, but there's rampant

02:32:03.700 objectification in the United States. So are you just curious, are you more, which way do you lean?

02:32:08.780 Like, well, on one hand, how do you balance women's freedom to dress as they like? The United States

02:32:16.800 women can dress however they want, but that entails like some degree of objectification.

02:32:21.560 There's objectification either way. I was dressed exactly like this when I was sexually abused,

02:32:25.260 when I was 12. And I don't mean to start like trauma dumping, but it does not matter. You're

02:32:28.640 closed. I'm sorry. But I mean this to say, Muslim women will still get raped. They'll still get

02:32:33.400 sexually assaulted. They'll still get abused. No matter what you're wearing, I'm covered head to toe.

02:32:37.320 And that abuse will still happen. So the reason in these Muslim countries, they, they do this is

02:32:41.860 to prevent, well, I mean, there's, there's actually quite a bunch of reasons, but one of the, uh, even

02:32:47.120 if it's an unintended consequence would be the limiting of sexual objectification of women.

02:32:52.960 Yeah. So, okay. Well, um, I'm a little bit confused here though. You said that, uh, it's so, so men,

02:33:01.780 you, you dress the way you do. So men don't objectify you. You said that that's what men do.

02:33:07.760 Men are men just objectify women. If they're wearing like a tank top, I guess, I don't know

02:33:12.640 why that would be the case. I don't mean that entirely, but the generalizations go both ways.

02:33:16.420 So do, are women like perfect angels that don't objectify men? No, not at all. That's exactly what

02:33:21.860 I'm trying to say on a broad sense. Now, like I said, there are exceptions on men's case and women's

02:33:25.860 case. It's, it is human to have bias and to have very fast assessments because it's, it was about

02:33:34.200 survival. Let's, let's date back millions. Let's, sorry, not millions. Let's date back several

02:33:38.260 millennia to hunter gatherer situations. Men looked at the size of a woman's hips to determine if those

02:33:45.720 hips could bear his children because back then it was about survival. Same thing with, with a man's

02:33:51.840 strength, with a man's ability to carry a deer on his back. This is, this is some amygdala. I don't

02:33:57.060 know how to explain this. This is innate, you know? So I don't think it's the bias that we should keep

02:34:02.360 attacking on each other. Men objectify women. Women objectify men, this and this and this.

02:34:06.860 There's a middle ground to this. And I believe that's what should be focused on in saying that.

02:34:11.040 Where are you right now? I'm, I don't know. You're not really addressing my, any of my central

02:34:16.040 points or arguments here. Um, I, I'm just trying to make a statement and try to find some sort of

02:34:20.860 middle ground. So yeah, but the width of women's hips, birthing hips, I, I'm a little confused.

02:34:27.440 Because I'm saying generalization and bias and judgment is innate. I'm confused by the segue.

02:34:30.620 It is innate. Okay. We were talking about materialism with finance. Well, yeah, I was going to make my

02:34:37.940 motivation point, but I'll get to that in a moment here. Message from the government of Canada.

02:34:43.760 Pasty George donated $200 and four cents. Many ambitious men are now older, divorced,

02:34:51.840 and lost half, if not most, of their hard-earned wealth to women who wanted men with ambition.

02:34:57.640 Others gained families with traditional non-feministic women.

02:35:03.280 Good boy.

02:35:03.900 Yeah. Maybe just don't get married, gentlemen. Don't get married.

02:35:10.140 I disagree. Uh, yeah, I mean, uh, wholeheartedly.

02:35:16.200 Well, I guess, uh, really quick, I, I want, uh, once she's back from the bathroom, I want to finish

02:35:21.340 up my point about men's and women's different motivation because I didn't finish my point on

02:35:26.180 that, but really quick to do a segue on marriage. Uh, tell me what I, as a man, what do I get in

02:35:33.460 marriage that I can't get from a long-term, like forever girlfriend?

02:35:38.260 Sex benefits.

02:35:40.940 Uh, yeah, maybe.

02:35:42.440 Sex for some people.

02:35:43.660 Sex?

02:35:44.400 Yeah, some people wait until marriage.

02:35:46.600 Oh, okay, sure, if you're a Christian. What about from a, uh, secular perspective, though?

02:35:53.200 Are you Christian?

02:35:54.900 I'm a Christian, yeah.

02:35:56.880 Do you wait until marriage? So you're a virgin?

02:35:59.000 Yes, I would like to.

02:35:59.860 Are you a virgin?

02:36:00.300 I'm not.

02:36:00.960 What denomination of Christianity are you?

02:36:04.060 I'm non-denominational.

02:36:05.360 Non-denom?

02:36:06.080 I just, I just read the Bible.

02:36:06.760 How long have you been celibate?

02:36:08.700 Um, oh my gosh, maybe three years since my...

02:36:13.860 Three years?

02:36:15.220 Wait, so hold on, you were, uh, you said you were, initially you said you were single for

02:36:19.640 three years, but there was a guy who you dated for like...

02:36:22.260 Yeah, we didn't.

02:36:23.220 Three months, six months?

02:36:24.320 And then another...

02:36:24.740 Have sex.

02:36:25.020 So neither of those two guys you referenced?

02:36:27.080 No, we didn't have sex.

02:36:28.120 No sex, no.

02:36:28.620 Okay, um, okay, well that's a different topic, but, uh, so you are a hundred percent waiting

02:36:35.040 until marriage then?

02:36:36.260 I would like to, yes.

02:36:37.040 You would like to, okay.

02:36:38.620 Yeah.

02:36:39.240 Uh, well, okay, um, I suppose that's a compelling argument if you're a Christian man, but I think

02:36:44.940 the greater argument if you're a Christian would be, I mean, that's, it's beyond just

02:36:52.220 sex while you get married, uh, as a Christian man.

02:36:55.320 And so, what about from a secular perspective, though, what, what can I get out of marriage

02:37:01.480 that I can't, if I just stay with a girl for the rest of my life, but we never get married?

02:37:08.520 For you?

02:37:09.060 I'm not secular, so I don't know.

02:37:10.800 I...

02:37:11.080 Oh, okay.

02:37:11.960 Well, um, so I guess, uh, so then aside from what do men get out of marriage besides fulfilling,

02:37:19.760 like, a component of their religious faith and sex, I guess?

02:37:24.000 I think marriage represents the highest version of love.

02:37:31.660 I think marriage in and of itself is sacred, and there is sanctity in it, and it's not just

02:37:40.460 about religion, and it's not just about children, but it's about mission, and it's about purpose,

02:37:46.940 and if you are married to the right person, key word, right person, then it can be a very

02:37:55.200 beautiful and fruitful thing, not just for you, yourself, but for everybody that you're

02:38:00.280 surrounded by, or surrounded by you.

02:38:03.860 It's greater than just two people, in my opinion.

02:38:09.360 But, I mean, from a secular perspective, if I just, I can't actually think of a difference

02:38:13.680 if I just stay with my girlfriend for the rest of my life, and we have kids, versus get married,

02:38:19.320 like, there's actually no difference.

02:38:21.280 I think there's putting a higher amount of trust into that person.

02:38:24.280 It's the ultimate form of commitment.

02:38:26.720 It's sacred.

02:38:27.720 It's spiritual bonding.

02:38:28.760 I think there's a higher level of trust if you don't get married.

02:38:32.460 How so?

02:38:33.420 Oh, sure.

02:38:33.900 Well, once, so I think when there becomes a, basically if you get married, and you're

02:38:39.700 the breadwinner, and a woman could be the breadwinner, so this could be an issue if, for

02:38:48.540 women too, and women do end up sometimes paying alimony and this sort of thing, it does sort

02:38:54.820 of put an extra incentive.

02:38:56.640 So, if you're vaguely unhappy in the marriage, if there's this idea of, well, if I leave, I'm

02:39:07.360 going to reap certain financial benefits through alimony, community property, I almost feel like

02:39:13.480 that that pushes, can actually be the thing that pushes someone over the edge into getting

02:39:19.100 a divorce, into the breakup of the marriage.

02:39:23.560 So, I actually think that there can be a compelling argument in the other direction, that if you

02:39:32.420 can't get anything financially out of breaking up with your boyfriend, you won't, you're

02:39:40.120 less, less reason to do it then.

02:39:41.840 See what you're trying to say?

02:39:42.760 Like, the binding can lead to being trapped and shackled in this, whereas with a boyfriend,

02:39:47.240 you can break up with him at any time.

02:39:48.440 With a husband or a wife, there's, it's almost like you're locked in, you know, but.

02:39:53.000 Well, I mean, people get divorced all the time, but I think the thing, the thing is, is that

02:39:58.820 like, let's say you're dating a guy and you're not married, it would seem like, you know, maybe

02:40:05.680 you're just vaguely unhappy.

02:40:06.940 There's no abuse.

02:40:07.820 He's not cheating.

02:40:09.060 He takes care of the kids fine, but you're just vaguely, you know, whatever.

02:40:13.260 I'm a bit unhappy, vaguely unhappy.

02:40:15.400 Oh, and if I divorce him, I get alimony for 10 years and I get 50%.

02:40:26.800 That what could have been worked out in just a boyfriend, girlfriend relationship, maybe

02:40:37.540 ooh, that money looks really good and I can fuck new people.

02:40:42.300 I mean, okay.

02:40:43.780 I think if you're only.

02:40:45.400 Oh, clutch your pearls.

02:40:46.600 I think if you're only intending on being married for materialistic reasons, like assets, like homes,

02:40:54.540 like whatever the person has and you're one, either with the wrong person or your intentions

02:41:01.660 are not right to, you're not in the, in the position to be married.

02:41:07.000 Does that make sense?

02:41:07.860 Okay.

02:41:08.020 Well, hold on.

02:41:08.780 Yeah.

02:41:09.400 Right.

02:41:10.280 Okay.

02:41:10.540 So everybody, everybody here, every, all the women here are fine signing a prenup.

02:41:15.360 Yes.

02:41:15.860 I am.

02:41:16.160 Yes.

02:41:16.420 No issue with it.

02:41:17.560 My current situation said, asked me to, and I said, yes.

02:41:21.380 So, okay.

02:41:21.740 That's, I mean, we have some really angelic women here at the table, but if I actually draw

02:41:26.940 my attention to what actually play, like realistically plays out when it comes to divorce, women don't

02:41:35.780 seem particularly generous when it, when the lawyer gets involved and the lawyer says, by

02:41:41.660 the way, you're owed, not just, ah, your husband can be a nice guy.

02:41:45.760 No, no, no.

02:41:46.080 You're entitled to, and you're owed alimony for this many years, thousand bucks a month,

02:41:52.860 2000 bucks a month.

02:41:54.060 You get 50 and 50% of the house, 50% of the car, 50% of X, Y, Z.

02:42:00.100 Eh, lawyers are going to be very convincing lawyer.

02:42:03.940 You know, maybe you're a really, uh, as a woman, you know, you're very, uh, angelic and

02:42:09.220 you would never think about, you'd never think about demanding or wanting your entitlements

02:42:15.420 when it comes to divorce, but invariably it seems to be the case that when women do get

02:42:20.520 divorced, ah, all of a sudden they start talking about what they're owed.

02:42:25.380 So we can, you know, maybe you guys are all outliers here and you would never demand anything

02:42:30.660 in a marriage, but it seems, it seems, go ahead.

02:42:36.640 What if they're like a stay at home mom?

02:42:38.020 Then I feel like the assets should be divided because.

02:42:42.200 Perhaps.

02:42:42.760 Yeah.

02:42:43.160 But I think.

02:42:43.580 Perhaps, but, um, I think situations such as those, um, are only acceptable.

02:42:52.360 Like if, you know, you guys are high school sweethearts, for instance, right.

02:42:56.980 And then you go through life and you have your kids and everything is la-di-da, but then,

02:43:03.540 you know, um, you guys stop having things in common, you know, life starts lifing and your

02:43:11.360 kids grow up and then you have like nothing in common and like one party chooses to seek

02:43:16.240 out another person, for instance, you know, I then think that that's an acceptable reason

02:43:21.840 if you're older, if you're not, you know what I mean?

02:43:24.060 For, for things like that.

02:43:25.380 But if, if any other circumstance, then I, then I do think it's wrong.

02:43:31.260 Then I do think it's wrong.

02:43:32.200 What's wrong?

02:43:32.780 Sorry.

02:43:33.100 To go after, um, somebody for monetary reasons.

02:43:37.400 Well, I mean, you might say it's wrong, but it seems like women are not shy about doing

02:43:41.800 this in the event of divorces.

02:43:43.840 Women frequently attempt to, uh, get alimony, do community property.

02:43:50.560 And look, maybe you're a good hearted woman.

02:43:52.520 You're like, you know what?

02:43:53.360 I'll go my way.

02:43:54.240 You go your way.

02:43:55.700 Uh, except when that, when that lawyer who has a financial incentive, because he'll get,

02:44:03.300 he'll get some sort of, either he'll get paid more hourly or he'll get some, you know, I

02:44:07.720 don't know if they do portions of it.

02:44:09.520 They, they get some degree of the settlement or whatever.

02:44:13.060 Uh, they have a massive incentive.

02:44:15.040 Lawyers are incredibly convincing.

02:44:16.700 They're skilled in the art of rhetoric.

02:44:18.720 Uh, and like a naive woman who's going through the divorce process, who's not familiar with

02:44:22.860 the, uh, the family court system.

02:44:25.540 She's going to probably defer to him on this or, well, whether the lawyer is a man or woman,

02:44:30.000 she's going to defer to the lawyer and the lawyer is going to be like, Hey, look, you

02:44:34.080 know, I know you're not really, you know, but you're, you are entitled to X, Y, Z.

02:44:38.160 And, uh, we're just trying to protect you and look out for your financial interests.

02:44:41.860 Your husband's trying to screw you over here in the divorce.

02:44:44.160 Lawyers are going to be very convincing and law women who might otherwise have good intentions.

02:44:48.560 You know what?

02:44:49.340 Okay, go ahead.

02:44:50.540 And the, the other thing here is even if, uh, even if you're a Christian woman, uh, in

02:44:56.760 the event of a divorce, really your faith isn't what oversees the divorce proceeding.

02:45:02.180 The state oversees the divorce proceedings and the state dictates that there's certain

02:45:06.620 laws and, uh, you know, uh, you're sighing over there.

02:45:12.860 Why, why is that?

02:45:13.880 Why are you sighing?

02:45:15.600 Um, if I get married, divorce isn't on the table.

02:45:20.000 That's what I was going to say also.

02:45:21.560 Okay.

02:45:21.800 Well, same for me, same for me.

02:45:26.360 That's why I'm not, you know, the amount of restoration that it has to go down in the

02:45:30.020 spirit, like the spiritual realm, God has to restore everything that is broken in a divorce

02:45:35.120 because a marital covenant is a sacred act under God.

02:45:39.520 That's right.

02:45:39.980 That represents the love Jesus has for his bride.

02:45:43.080 I mean, just not going to happen to me.

02:45:46.180 Divorce is not, is not on the table unless there's like actual real harm being inflicted

02:45:52.300 to either you, the other party or children.

02:45:55.680 I think that's the only acceptable.

02:45:57.240 Sure.

02:45:57.580 If there, if there's abuse, absolutely.

02:46:00.040 Yeah.

02:46:00.240 That's it.

02:46:00.660 What if though, under your guys' perspective, well, I'll actually just ask everybody.

02:46:06.840 How about this scenario?

02:46:08.020 You're married to a guy, you have kids.

02:46:10.700 He's not abusive.

02:46:11.940 He's not emotionally abusive, verbally abusive.

02:46:13.960 He's not physically abusive.

02:46:15.260 None of these, uh, he's loyal to you.

02:46:17.980 He treats the kids fantastically, but you're just vaguely unhappy.

02:46:25.200 He he's a nice guy.

02:46:26.480 He treats you well, but you're vaguely unhappy.

02:46:29.120 Two questions.

02:46:30.660 Have you ever been in a relationship or dating a guy where the guy was loyal to you?

02:46:36.480 He wasn't abusive in any sort of way, but you just were vaguely unhappy.

02:46:41.500 Let's start there.

02:46:42.480 And then I'll ask the follow-up question.

02:46:44.200 Yeah.

02:46:44.720 Okay.

02:46:45.800 Yeah.

02:46:46.680 Yes.

02:46:47.440 Yes.

02:46:47.900 And I think that had to do with me.

02:46:49.840 Well, I've never been in a relationship.

02:46:51.360 Well, whatever.

02:46:52.720 Any, any guy?

02:46:54.340 Uh, no.

02:46:55.040 What about you?

02:46:55.660 Yeah.

02:46:56.500 Vagely.

02:46:56.940 Can I ask, did you break up with the guy?

02:47:00.780 Well, it wasn't just because of that, but we did end up breaking up, obviously.

02:47:05.540 Okay.

02:47:05.840 Yes.

02:47:08.000 No, I'm currently in it.

02:47:11.040 So no.

02:47:11.600 Okay.

02:47:12.400 But never?

02:47:13.760 No.

02:47:14.260 You've never, there's, there's a guy you were dating, you know, he wasn't abusive, treated

02:47:22.040 you well, loyal.

02:47:23.540 No.

02:47:24.420 So every single guy who hasn't abused you and has been loyal, there's never just been

02:47:31.180 like a loss of something, loss of connection?

02:47:35.060 Of course.

02:47:35.780 There's always been abuse or something?

02:47:37.160 Of course.

02:47:37.480 No, I think it's not.

02:47:38.680 I mean, listen, we're, we're people and we're humans and we go through things and we have

02:47:45.060 experiences that take from us and that give to us.

02:47:48.300 And there are always going to be points in our lives when, you know, we feel better than

02:47:53.380 normal.

02:47:53.720 I'm at a super low, low right now.

02:47:55.800 You know what I mean?

02:47:56.420 In my personal life.

02:47:57.420 However, I'm still maintaining whatever relationship I have, because to me, it's, it's more worthwhile

02:48:06.440 to save something than just to move on, in my opinion.

02:48:10.360 Okay.

02:48:10.880 Well, I guess the question here is then the follow-up question.

02:48:14.140 Uh, if you're married, assuming all those things, he's loyal, treats the kids well, he's

02:48:21.260 not abusive to you in any sort of way, but you're just, you've fallen out of love with

02:48:25.960 him, is divorce warranted?

02:48:30.820 Sorry, you lost me.

02:48:31.620 I'm still trying to stay awake.

02:48:32.540 I'm so sorry.

02:48:33.300 Say that question one more time.

02:48:35.480 I'm trying to stay locked in.

02:48:36.660 I've been up for like 24 hours.

02:48:38.600 I've had three energy drinks.

02:48:39.700 All right.

02:48:40.900 Come back to me.

02:48:43.580 Okay.

02:48:44.740 Go ahead.

02:48:46.500 I'd say, like, obviously it depends on situation to situation.

02:48:50.720 You're married.

02:48:51.520 I'm married.

02:48:52.220 You're married and you have, I know some of you said you don't want kids.

02:48:55.720 So whatever your circumstance is, but let's assume two kids, treats the kids well, he's

02:48:59.540 loyal, treats you well, but you've fallen out of love with him.

02:49:04.400 I think if you-

02:49:05.440 Does it warrant a divorce?

02:49:06.920 If you try to fix it and you can't fix it, then yeah.

02:49:10.820 Yeah.

02:49:13.020 Maybe I'm just like really young, but I feel like if I'm, whoever I marry, I know, like,

02:49:17.800 I know they're going to meet my partner for life and I feel like I'd be with them for

02:49:20.560 a long time before I get married to them.

02:49:22.100 So like, I don't know if I could ever-

02:49:24.040 But you think in the history of romantic relationships, somebody has thought that exact thing and

02:49:30.340 then a year, two years, three years, four years, five years later, things change, fall out

02:49:35.400 of love.

02:49:36.220 I mean, yeah, if I wasn't happy, then I would, but I don't know if I'd ever have married

02:49:39.800 that person in the first place.

02:49:41.060 Like the divorce rate, I think it's what, over 50% or something.

02:49:44.500 I, you know, I, some people probably make mistakes when they get married, but I feel

02:49:48.440 like most people, when they get married, I don't think they're thinking like, I think

02:49:54.480 they're pretty certain.

02:49:55.460 Like, this is my person, one, two, three, four, five, six, however many years goes by.

02:50:00.740 Nope.

02:50:01.580 So like, I don't think people get married, like going in with the expectation of like, by

02:50:05.720 the way, I'm getting, I'm going to get a divorce.

02:50:07.960 I don't think they go into it with that expectation.

02:50:10.300 But what about you?

02:50:12.080 Absolutely not.

02:50:12.820 A divorce warranted?

02:50:13.820 Absolutely not.

02:50:14.620 Okay.

02:50:14.820 Stay with them.

02:50:15.540 What about you?

02:50:16.180 I wouldn't get a divorce because I think that you can work on those things.

02:50:20.420 I think you go in and out of happiness throughout a very long relationship.

02:50:23.620 I think my happiness is based on my own mental state and that I'm responsible for me.

02:50:30.320 He's responsible for him.

02:50:31.700 And I think you can work at falling back into love.

02:50:34.680 I think even if it takes 10 years, 15 years, I would keep working at that because we'd probably

02:50:40.080 have a family and a life built together.

02:50:41.860 And I think things like loyalty and commitment are more important.

02:50:45.380 That's exactly what I'm saying.

02:50:46.360 I think it warrants for divorce.

02:50:48.100 Warrants for divorce.

02:50:49.180 I agree.

02:50:49.860 What do you think?

02:50:50.580 No.

02:50:51.380 Stay with him.

02:50:52.100 Okay.

02:50:53.040 Here, I want to get back.

02:50:54.240 There's one thing I want to finish off on.

02:50:55.780 We had some chats coming through.

02:50:57.120 A message from the government of Canada.

02:50:58.760 Sorry for the delay.

02:50:59.580 Oh, there's another one too.

02:51:00.740 Oh, my goodness.

02:51:08.100 Such a pessimist.

02:51:10.120 Totally.

02:51:16.420 Pasty, have you ever been married?

02:51:18.480 Have you been married?

02:51:19.260 How many to Pasty here?

02:51:20.840 Oh, such a...

02:51:21.740 Pasty, you probably dropped like $2,500 already just on this night, dude.

02:51:27.260 Hey, this is nothing.

02:51:28.000 This is like a couple bucks to him.

02:51:31.360 Maybe he's a billionaire.

02:51:32.360 He's got some money.

02:51:33.620 He's got some...

02:51:34.140 He's got Buku bucks.

02:51:35.660 Who knows?

02:51:36.360 Buku, he's Canadian.

02:51:37.680 Dropping a little French there.

02:51:39.200 Buku bucks.

02:51:39.940 Pasty, do you also speak a little bit of French?

02:51:43.400 Just...

02:51:43.720 A message from the government of Canada.

02:51:45.940 Pasty George donated $200.04.

02:51:49.680 Thank you, man.

02:51:50.300 Chair 1, my mother was a residential school survivor and became a feminist because of it.

02:51:55.620 You claim that you suffered similar trauma, and that is why you hide your femininity and embrace feminism.

02:52:02.640 Where did residential school survivor come from, Mr. Pasty George?

02:52:05.780 I had my effeminate for a long string of reasons, and because, you know, I don't want a trauma dub, I'll just keep it plain and forth.

02:52:16.980 Oh, my Lord.

02:52:18.120 Crazy.

02:52:19.560 I was bullied out of my femininity.

02:52:21.660 I was actually a very feminine kid.

02:52:23.440 Very.

02:52:23.960 No, my birth name's Sophie, but I went by Sophia.

02:52:26.700 I wore tiaras and everything, and I was bullied for it.

02:52:29.340 I was called too weak, too sensitive.

02:52:31.360 I had men up that I was a crybaby.

02:52:33.940 I was too emotional.

02:52:34.740 So, I had it bullied out of me.

02:52:36.280 So, I lost touch of my femininity at a very young age.

02:52:38.080 This is just to answer your question.

02:52:39.080 This is on a whole different ramble.

02:52:41.060 So, I developed a masculine coat because it wasn't girls bullying me.

02:52:44.760 It was dudes bullying me saying, I'm too girly.

02:52:46.840 I got to man up.

02:52:47.880 And so, I did man up.

02:52:49.360 But I was still taking advantage of my femininity.

02:52:53.040 So, it doesn't do anything at the end of the day.

02:52:55.340 So, part of my coming of age experience in the past, like 17, 18, 19, has been trying to embrace my feminine from the inside out.

02:53:02.900 From more of a...

02:53:04.360 Oh.

02:53:05.520 Jay Ekin donated $200.

02:53:06.660 Yo, Jay, thank you, man.

02:53:08.600 Shout out to Grid One Motorsports in the studio.

02:53:12.140 Can we get him on the panel?

02:53:14.160 Shout out to the Discord gang.

02:53:16.440 Yeah, we'll do.

02:53:17.100 We'll do.

02:53:17.700 Happy birthday, JC, for tomorrow.

02:53:19.400 Yo, shout out, JC.

02:53:20.540 Thank you, Jay.

02:53:21.400 Yeah, we'll have Grid One do a little cameo later.

02:53:24.020 A little later in the show, we'll do a little cameo.

02:53:26.700 He'll come say hi for a sec.

02:53:29.060 Thank you, man.

02:53:29.520 Appreciate it.

02:53:31.320 Darius Monk, with a Canadian 200.

02:53:34.740 Chair 3 is an example of Brian's point about the need to be raised by a stay-at-home mom.

02:53:38.900 Her mother selfishly prioritized her career over raising her.

02:53:42.560 Therefore, she imprinted the same.

02:53:46.140 Monkey see, monkey do.

02:53:47.380 Mother avoiding responsibility.

02:53:49.080 Begets daughter avoiding responsibility.

02:53:52.220 Don't shoot the messenger.

02:53:53.340 Do you have a response to Darius?

02:53:55.160 I mean, I don't know if there's anything wrong with me.

02:53:59.240 I think I'm an independent woman.

02:54:00.940 I'm in college, and I did well in high school.

02:54:03.780 I don't think there's anything wrong with what I've been doing in my life.

02:54:08.300 Okay.

02:54:08.820 All right.

02:54:09.340 There it is, Darius.

02:54:10.300 I don't know if you have a follow-up for her, but there it is.

02:54:14.120 Okay.

02:54:14.320 I need to get up momentarily.

02:54:15.540 Felicity is going.

02:54:17.840 Oh, wait.

02:54:18.100 No, I need to finish my point about motivation,

02:54:19.880 and then we'll get into some of the other questions here.

02:54:23.820 So I guess we kind of got a little sidetracked there.

02:54:26.620 I was finishing the thing about motivation.

02:54:28.520 Just really quick, though.

02:54:29.340 So my original claim was men are more motivated to make money.

02:54:33.740 Some of you disagreed.

02:54:34.900 Just curious going around the table.

02:54:36.480 You disagree?

02:54:37.680 I didn't disagree, but I neither agreed.

02:54:39.200 I think men are more motivated by the binary to provide.

02:54:43.640 I don't know if that necessarily means material.

02:54:45.480 In the modern day, that does mean money.

02:54:47.620 But I think I agree and disagree,

02:54:51.660 but that's a whole other train of thought, but you can continue.

02:54:54.160 Similar.

02:54:54.720 And then also I think it really depends on how you're raised.

02:54:56.880 Like I'm way more motivated by money than my twin brother.

02:55:01.760 Yeah, I understand that there are women who are super motivated

02:55:06.040 and there are men who are lazy.

02:55:09.260 I would say just as a sort of average or general principle,

02:55:12.500 I would say that I think men are more motivated, generally speaking.

02:55:16.720 Not to say there's women at this table who are probably more motivated

02:55:23.140 than plenty of men, but your thoughts?

02:55:27.780 I would say yes.

02:55:28.420 I feel like you have to give it a few more decades to see

02:55:31.120 because I feel like only the past few decades women have really been

02:55:33.960 finally encouraged to be motivated and to seek out more than they ever been used to.

02:55:39.100 So I feel like right now, yes.

02:55:40.320 But if you give it a few more decades in time, you'll see the difference.

02:55:45.160 Yes, I think men are primarily biologically wired to protect, provide, and lead.

02:55:51.980 However, I will say that nowadays in today's current society,

02:55:57.080 I definitely see that things are changing,

02:55:58.880 and I think they will continue to change and adapt.

02:56:04.380 I agree.

02:56:05.780 I agree.

02:56:06.760 Yeah, I agree that things are changing, but there still is that society.

02:56:10.180 There's too many agrees.

02:56:11.700 So you agree with her, you agree with her, you agree with me.

02:56:15.220 Men are more motivated.

02:56:16.300 What do you agree with?

02:56:17.840 I agree men are wired to provide.

02:56:20.300 I agree with men are wired to provide.

02:56:22.120 Yeah, I think they're wired to provide and that, yes,

02:56:24.960 there has been an uprise on women becoming more motivated

02:56:28.920 to do more entrepreneurial things and make money.

02:56:31.720 But I do think that there's still that societal pressure that, you know,

02:56:36.040 men kind of grow up learning, like, you need to be the provider, make money,

02:56:41.060 things like that, along with, like, a biological, in a biological way as well.

02:56:45.280 Your thoughts?

02:56:46.760 Yes, I agree with you.

02:56:48.660 Okay.

02:56:49.860 I'll give a quick response, then I'll let you go.

02:56:52.120 So my primary argument here as to why I think this is the case,

02:56:57.040 I think I kind of basically already made it,

02:56:59.620 but if we look at our biological imperatives, survive, reproduce.

02:57:04.540 So both men and women, you need to make money to survive.

02:57:10.500 Food, house, et cetera, all those things.

02:57:13.580 So I'd be prepared to grant that the survival motivation

02:57:18.260 is probably equal between men and women.

02:57:20.680 But added on top of that would be the, I guess,

02:57:25.440 the reproduced side of the biological imperative.

02:57:28.840 Men, generally speaking, are not assessing women

02:57:33.100 for their ability to financially provide.

02:57:37.180 It can be a nice little extra bonus.

02:57:39.460 Like if she, sometimes it can actually be a detriment

02:57:42.000 for some men who are more traditional-minded,

02:57:45.080 the career boss babe can actually be a negative versus a positive.

02:57:51.960 Overwhelmingly, though, I would say men prioritize other things

02:57:55.220 in terms of what they find attractive in women.

02:57:57.920 I'm not even talking about looks necessarily.

02:58:00.260 I'm talking about other characteristics, other personality traits,

02:58:04.140 then like ambition, success, et cetera, et cetera.

02:58:07.080 Well, I think men can want a woman who's ambitious,

02:58:09.120 just perhaps ambitious in other ways, like family ambition.

02:58:14.100 You know, you could be health-oriented ambition.

02:58:18.340 But career ambition, typically not a massive priority for men.

02:58:22.400 And also there's just a women, not all women,

02:58:28.560 but a good amount of women, I'd say the majority of women,

02:58:31.560 do have certain gendered expectations that men provide.

02:58:34.840 Even if it's just he pays for the first date,

02:58:37.560 then we're 50-50 from there on out.

02:58:39.380 Even this would create enough of a shift,

02:58:42.100 enough of a motivation, I think, albeit minor,

02:58:45.900 for men to just be more motivated to make money.

02:58:48.680 Because I think both men and women, but you could even argue,

02:58:52.780 I think men are more romantically motivated.

02:58:56.220 Men are more, like for, well.

02:58:59.620 I think you could word that a little bit differently.

02:59:02.620 Romantically motivated to do what?

02:59:03.460 I take issue with what you said.

02:59:06.160 Wait, say that again?

02:59:07.120 I didn't hear him, sorry.

02:59:08.140 You say men are more what?

02:59:10.700 Well, you said men are more romantically motivated.

02:59:13.160 To do what?

02:59:14.540 To provide?

02:59:15.560 No, no, no.

02:59:15.980 So I'd say I think men, well, how about this?

02:59:22.740 This is an easy one.

02:59:23.720 I think men are more sexually motivated.

02:59:25.760 Oh, for sure.

02:59:26.660 And so, like, for most men, probably, like, first few steps to,

02:59:33.360 even if you're just, like, strictly looking for casual sex,

02:59:35.940 but there are men who want the total package.

02:59:38.300 They want the girlfriend, but obviously they want sex, too.

02:59:40.920 Men are just testosterone.

02:59:42.240 Men are, have higher sex drives than women.

02:59:47.420 Not to say that women love sex.

02:59:50.040 I'm not saying that men generally, on average,

02:59:53.020 have higher sex drives than women.

02:59:54.420 Yes.

02:59:55.000 And, like, if the bottleneck to getting sex is,

03:00:00.320 okay, well, take me on three dates, and you have to pay.

03:00:03.420 I'm not, by the way, I'm not saying that that's, like, verbatim,

03:00:06.560 what women are saying.

03:00:07.260 But just an approximation of the dynamic, if the bottleneck to getting sex

03:00:12.740 as a man is you have to be somewhat financially coherent and, like,

03:00:18.440 be able to afford the first date and pay for the first date,

03:00:22.500 and also I think women are, you know, there's other factors that can make

03:00:27.480 a man appealing besides just his willingness to pay for the first date,

03:00:30.420 but being also financially secure is another component,

03:00:34.080 then men will do the thing that gets them the girlfriend

03:00:38.300 or do the thing that gets them the sex.

03:00:40.660 Whereas for women, I don't think you're, like,

03:00:44.120 if you want to just get laid, your money,

03:00:48.100 I know most women you probably want the boyfriend, too,

03:00:50.500 but if you're just trying to get laid,

03:00:52.720 the man does not care whatsoever.

03:00:55.340 He's not going to praise you on your money when it comes to getting laid.

03:01:01.700 He's just going to praise you on your body and how you dollar yourself up

03:01:04.580 and how you dumb yourself down.

03:01:07.500 Dumb yourself down?

03:01:09.340 I don't know.

03:01:09.780 I just wanted to bring up the point that women...

03:01:11.940 Seems like a trope, but...

03:01:12.880 No, I mean, at least I've seen it firsthand.

03:01:15.560 Well, yeah, okay, cool.

03:01:15.580 Yeah, men want a physically attractive woman, but...

03:01:18.780 Submissive to the point of being stupid

03:01:20.760 because women having intellect, I'm not talking about feminine,

03:01:24.180 I'm just talking about intellectual women, scare men away.

03:01:27.120 No, completely disagree.

03:01:28.900 I think, actually, high intelligence is incredibly attractive

03:01:31.780 for a couple of reasons, but I think primarily...

03:01:35.440 Until it's higher than a man.

03:01:36.720 Well, if you want to, at least when it comes to having kids,

03:01:40.360 if you want to confer the maximum benefits to your kids,

03:01:43.520 it would be, like, good-looking and smart.

03:01:47.100 Like, I want high-IQ children.

03:01:49.320 So, like, this idea that men just want, like, drooling, dumbass women,

03:01:53.020 I'm not actually sure that's the case.

03:01:55.420 Like, maybe for casual sex, maybe.

03:01:58.100 But, like, actual long-term relationship,

03:02:00.840 if she's a pleasant woman and she's high IQ,

03:02:03.440 not a problem whatsoever.

03:02:04.880 Go ahead.

03:02:05.260 Okay, so going back to what a few of you guys said,

03:02:08.480 I actually disagree that it is a biological thing.

03:02:12.540 I think that men learn this through their environment and...

03:02:17.540 Men learn what?

03:02:18.360 That they need to be providers.

03:02:23.200 Like, you guys are saying that they're wired to do that,

03:02:25.680 and I think that it's something that goes back so far in history.

03:02:30.680 It's conditioned.

03:02:31.300 It's conditioned, exactly.

03:02:32.860 And that also kind of relates...

03:02:33.960 Is it...

03:02:33.980 No, I'm talking.

03:02:35.200 That kind of relates to your point as well.

03:02:37.120 Clarifying question, but okay.

03:02:38.700 Go ahead.

03:02:39.060 It relates to your point as well that you're saying women have these expectations

03:02:43.820 because men force that, kind of.

03:02:47.420 Men force it?

03:02:48.340 Yeah, they enforce it.

03:02:49.780 Men enforce it?

03:02:50.820 Enforce and force.

03:02:52.080 How do men enforce it?

03:02:53.440 This is completely a gynocentric thing.

03:02:55.380 Can I finish talking?

03:02:56.460 Well, I was responding to your point, so...

03:02:58.320 I'm not done, though.

03:02:59.580 Okay, finish your point, then.

03:03:00.660 Go ahead.

03:03:00.860 What I was saying was that men have these expectations.

03:03:08.380 They're learned, they're conditioned to want to provide, okay?

03:03:13.920 So, that being said, women are then kind of forced into that as well,

03:03:20.580 to being the more submissive or the person who doesn't go out, make money, provide.

03:03:28.860 They have these expectations, so they are telling a woman to stay at home

03:03:34.100 or to not get a job.

03:03:35.980 Like, this is, you're kind of saying that it's all on women, but it's really not.

03:03:41.380 Well, I didn't actually say that it's all on women.

03:03:43.340 It's what you've been implying, though.

03:03:45.880 Well, I'm saying that this is something that women do tend to uphold,

03:03:52.120 but I'm not saying it's strictly women or strictly men.

03:03:55.340 I think there's a shared responsibility as it relates to this.

03:03:59.240 I think that's just important to keep in mind, though.

03:04:00.940 You were responding to them saying, they said that there's a nature component.

03:04:05.360 So, I think that it's, I don't know if it's exactly 50-50,

03:04:09.700 but I think that there's both a nature and a nurture component.

03:04:13.140 But you think when it comes to, like, men paying for dates

03:04:16.760 and women having an expectation that men pay for dates,

03:04:20.100 do you think it's only nurture?

03:04:22.000 I think it's a very high percentage nurture.

03:04:25.840 We can all agree that this is a mix of nurture and nature.

03:04:28.700 It's just the perception that is difficult.

03:04:29.960 Why do women find tall men attractive?

03:04:32.520 Well, that is a biological thing.

03:04:34.160 I love my short things, actually.

03:04:36.640 I'm with a shorter guy.

03:04:37.440 But hold on, hold on.

03:04:38.740 But women have higher faculties and women have intellect,

03:04:43.000 and they can come to a determination that, well, hold on,

03:04:46.100 a man's height has actually really no bearing on really anything.

03:04:51.440 Right.

03:04:51.700 It has no bearing on his goodness.

03:04:54.400 It has no bearing on his virtue.

03:04:56.100 It has no bearing on really anything.

03:04:58.380 He can be a high earner.

03:04:59.420 He can protect you, et cetera, et cetera.

03:05:02.460 So, it's interesting, though, women's attraction to tall men,

03:05:08.040 that's nature.

03:05:10.260 Right.

03:05:10.540 Like I said, it's both.

03:05:11.380 I think it's a very, very high percentage nurture, though,

03:05:16.380 in your environment, how you grow up.

03:05:18.280 Well, I mean, if it's nature there,

03:05:20.300 then I would say it's also nature that women are drawn to men

03:05:25.440 who can provide and protect.

03:05:28.440 I'm just going to chime in and say that I love my short kings.

03:05:31.340 Thank you.

03:05:31.980 It's not.

03:05:32.440 By the way, to be clear, I don't know the exact breakdown,

03:05:35.500 but I think it's a combination of nature and nurture.

03:05:38.780 I don't think it's just social programming.

03:05:45.860 It's both.

03:05:46.820 And can I say that I think that, to your point about how most men

03:05:51.520 don't necessarily care about how much a woman earns, for instance,

03:05:58.140 like in her career, in her job, et cetera, maybe it's controversial.

03:06:02.540 I'm sure it is.

03:06:03.180 But I think that if a man does put a very high emphasis on this,

03:06:09.100 that it shows signs of femininity.

03:06:12.500 And I'm just going to say what I said.

03:06:15.000 I mean, I also, it's a fair point.

03:06:17.180 It's a good point.

03:06:17.920 I think that the more money a man makes, in fact, the less he cares.

03:06:24.360 It's a bit the reverse, actually.

03:06:25.860 The more money a woman makes, even if she has the capacity to fully provide,

03:06:31.040 like let's say she's a super high earner.

03:06:32.480 She makes a million dollars a year.

03:06:35.000 She's a high-powered attorney.

03:06:36.800 She's not going to go date a male barista.

03:06:39.680 She's going to look for somebody who's also high-powered and high-earning too.

03:06:44.300 She's going to say, I want equal to or more.

03:06:48.940 That's right.

03:06:49.400 Whereas a man's like, so when a man makes a bunch of money,

03:06:52.180 his dating pool just opens up massively.

03:06:54.000 When women start making more money, their dating pool shrinks.

03:06:58.000 Because, I mean, unless you're willing as a woman,

03:07:00.260 high-powered attorney to go date.

03:07:02.140 Like, for example, the doctor, he'll date nurses.

03:07:05.160 He'll date the receptionist.

03:07:06.940 Female doctor, she wants another doctor.

03:07:10.440 She wants an attorney.

03:07:12.200 Now, look, there's exceptions.

03:07:13.840 There's always exceptions to the rule.

03:07:15.820 But once women make money, they want a guy on her level.

03:07:20.940 Like, I'm a pretty decently high earner.

03:07:24.720 I'll date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A.

03:07:26.240 Don't care.

03:07:27.040 It's not even...

03:07:28.200 Look, don't have, like, an insane amount of debt or something.

03:07:32.420 Of course.

03:07:32.720 But, I mean, look, if she's really amazing, whatever.

03:07:35.400 You got $100,000 of debt, whatever.

03:07:37.840 But, like...

03:07:38.280 You would really be okay with that?

03:07:41.180 If she's, like, amazing otherwise, $100,000, whatever.

03:07:44.560 Don't care.

03:07:44.740 If she fits all...

03:07:45.540 Like, checks her box.

03:07:46.260 Yeah, if she's attractive.

03:07:46.920 Yeah, yeah.

03:07:47.960 If she's nice, wants kids and values, you'd be like...

03:07:50.840 You would accept her.

03:07:51.480 $100,000 of debt, whatever.

03:07:52.940 Don't care.

03:07:53.440 Okay.

03:07:54.140 Don't care.

03:07:55.020 Like...

03:07:55.260 Okay.

03:07:55.740 But, I mean...

03:07:56.440 That's fair.

03:07:58.040 Like, ideally, at least no debt.

03:08:00.320 Yeah.

03:08:00.600 But, okay, you have, like, $100 in your savings account.

03:08:02.760 Don't care.

03:08:04.300 Can we at least come to a mutual understanding across the whole panel that the fundamental

03:08:09.060 male need to provide is a very rocky gray combination of nurture and nature?

03:08:15.840 We can all agree that it is both.

03:08:17.480 Now, the percentage varies.

03:08:19.580 Well, I think it is, but I think other people think it's mostly...

03:08:22.640 There is a nurture aspect and there is a nature aspect.

03:08:25.080 Can we all agree that to some way or another, there's a nurture and nature aspect?

03:08:28.440 I agree.

03:08:28.840 Well, I think she thinks it's mostly nurture.

03:08:31.700 Okay.

03:08:31.940 We're talking about a combination.

03:08:33.200 But we're saying that whether the percentage is 10 and 90, 80, 20, it doesn't matter.

03:08:37.480 There is nurture and there is nature.

03:08:38.940 Well, unlike this common ground thing.

03:08:40.200 So, this idea that, okay, well, if there's a massive difference between...

03:08:44.400 Isn't this how debate works?

03:08:45.360 We try to find some sort of, like, noodle ground.

03:08:46.500 No, no, no.

03:08:46.900 That's not how debate works.

03:08:48.260 Heard.

03:08:48.940 Understood.

03:08:49.220 So, there's a massive difference between something being 99% nature and 1% nurture and something

03:08:57.740 being 50% nurture, 50% nature.

03:09:01.060 That's, like, massive.

03:09:02.240 99% is basically 100%.

03:09:04.060 I know.

03:09:04.320 Just sometimes it's nice to establish what it is we agree on so we can kind of get more

03:09:08.880 into the specifics of...

03:09:10.480 Sorry.

03:09:10.840 Go ahead.

03:09:11.100 Go ahead.

03:09:11.420 We agree that it is nurture and nature, correct?

03:09:13.380 Can we just set that?

03:09:14.240 I don't even understand this line of logic, though.

03:09:15.980 So, okay.

03:09:16.520 Like, can we find some common ground between Republicans and Democrats?

03:09:20.640 Yes.

03:09:21.060 Absolutely.

03:09:21.660 Like, should we, like, get rid of...

03:09:24.220 Like, should murderers go to prison?

03:09:26.680 Like, 99% of Democrats and Republicans probably agree.

03:09:29.860 Like, who cares, though?

03:09:31.480 I don't know.

03:09:31.880 Just something about this feels so cyclical.

03:09:33.980 Like, I'm trying to sit here.

03:09:35.260 Like, isn't the point of a debate to find...

03:09:37.080 Nope.

03:09:37.700 Agree to disagree?

03:09:38.840 Nope.

03:09:39.020 You know?

03:09:39.660 No, no, no.

03:09:40.240 Not at all.

03:09:40.840 That's not the point of this debate.

03:09:41.720 Any sort of compromise, any sort of, hey, you have a differing opinion that I do based

03:09:45.300 on your experience.

03:09:46.280 You have a differing opinion than I do based on your experience.

03:09:48.820 Here's where we are like.

03:09:50.120 Here's where we differ.

03:09:50.980 Here's why we differ.

03:09:52.460 This...

03:09:52.920 It just feels like we're just trying to argue instead of debate.

03:09:55.260 Let's find some sort of common ground and understand...

03:09:57.340 Well, conversation might be the common ground thing.

03:09:59.500 But when you're actually debating, unless through my rhetorical prowess, if I can change

03:10:09.040 your mind, but this whole agree to disagree, nah, I'm good.

03:10:16.120 What's the point?

03:10:16.800 What does that even mean, agree to...

03:10:18.060 Okay, so you still believe what you believe.

03:10:20.200 I believe what...

03:10:21.140 But we agree that we both disagree.

03:10:23.520 I think she wants to...

03:10:24.360 You're trying to find a common ground, right?

03:10:26.000 Yes.

03:10:26.440 I'm trying to find some sort of way.

03:10:27.840 Like, you've...

03:10:28.780 I've been able to, from what you have explained, I'm understanding a little bit of the male

03:10:32.980 perspective more.

03:10:33.800 But it seems like through all the women that have come through your podcast, it seems like

03:10:38.120 we haven't been able to show you at least a little bit of what it is like to be a woman.

03:10:42.860 Oh, I know.

03:10:43.340 I've heard from over a thousand women.

03:10:46.240 Yet you still uphold a lot of these, like, hardcore, traditional values.

03:10:48.720 Wait, I don't understand the entailment here.

03:10:52.660 So the entailment is, I need to change my position.

03:10:56.620 Why can't they change their position?

03:10:59.400 How about we both do it a little bit?

03:11:01.260 That's kind of a whole common ground thing.

03:11:03.140 My mind has changed a little bit.

03:11:04.780 Let's hope yours has too.

03:11:05.940 That's kind of where we meet in the middle.

03:11:07.360 This is cyclical.

03:11:08.140 No, I believe you can be firm in your beliefs and stay true to what you believe in.

03:11:12.740 There we go.

03:11:13.040 So I don't understand this, like, virtue signal of, like, well, we can, like, sing kumbaya

03:11:20.540 and, like, agree to disagree and all come...

03:11:23.720 Low key, yeah.

03:11:24.880 Let's find common ground.

03:11:26.480 It's like, I'm fine with common ground.

03:11:29.680 But your common ground seems that you're trying to establish with the, like, nature versus

03:11:34.940 nurture thing seems like a token.

03:11:38.900 It's, like, technically true, like, but the difference here is she might think that nurture

03:11:45.940 is 90% and I think it's, or 99% and I think it's 50%.

03:11:50.200 So, go ahead.

03:11:51.680 I think what the main point that she's trying to get across is that this is starting to

03:11:55.320 feel a little bit like an attack rather than a debate.

03:11:58.580 And I think we need to kind of have a conversation.

03:12:02.440 Yeah, we're having a conversation.

03:12:03.580 It doesn't feel like an attack.

03:12:04.420 It just feels like we're going in circles and I think let's try to bring some other

03:12:07.900 thoughts in the...

03:12:09.260 Some other ideas, some other questions.

03:12:11.260 Well, I mean, we have other topics, but to your point, the point of debate is not, I'm

03:12:18.240 going to completely change my worldview to accommodate your differing position.

03:12:23.720 And mine vice versa.

03:12:24.940 That's the middle ground.

03:12:25.480 Yeah, but the point of debate...

03:12:26.420 I mean, unless your debate opponent is...

03:12:29.900 Most people, even if they can be, like, proven wrong logically, are going to stick to their

03:12:36.400 guns.

03:12:36.940 The point of debate...

03:12:38.140 I'm not here to convince any of you.

03:12:40.160 I'm here, really, to put on a fun show, but to convince the audience, right?

03:12:46.800 Understandable.

03:12:47.040 To convince the audience, I don't go into these ever expecting to change somebody's mind.

03:12:52.380 If I do, great.

03:12:53.760 But most people are so, so hopelessly a nerd to their own...

03:13:00.760 You're so hopelessly a nerd to your worldview that you're not going to...

03:13:06.360 Like, even if I provide compelling logic, you're not going to change your perspective.

03:13:10.260 I don't really care, though.

03:13:12.060 How do you know that?

03:13:12.980 I just haven't seen proof of that compelling logic yet.

03:13:15.140 If anybody has noticed, I've already shifted a little bit of my mentality to understand some

03:13:20.120 more traditional values that maybe I didn't see at first.

03:13:22.300 Isn't that...

03:13:23.080 Okay, well, then good.

03:13:24.140 Then good.

03:13:24.660 I'm happy for that.

03:13:25.640 Good.

03:13:25.900 Congrats.

03:13:26.360 I love that.

03:13:26.780 Can I just say, I think men and women are inherently different.

03:13:31.040 However, so both things can be true.

03:13:34.420 However, we each need each other.

03:13:37.040 I mean, let's face it.

03:13:38.200 Like, a world full of women alone is going to be catty BS.

03:13:44.820 You know what I mean?

03:13:45.540 No, it truly is.

03:13:47.360 And then a world full of...

03:13:48.660 We should ask the other women that.

03:13:50.740 Okay, well, can I...

03:13:51.720 Let me just finish really quick.

03:13:53.260 That's the point I was trying to be.

03:13:53.820 And then a world full of men alone is going to be completely lonely.

03:13:58.520 Well, I'd actually like to ask the women this because I actually hear this feminist talking

03:14:02.940 point.

03:14:04.600 Like me as men, I would never want 50% of the population to disappear.

03:14:09.900 Women are great.

03:14:12.700 Don't think the world would be better without women.

03:14:15.380 Right.

03:14:15.560 We need women, et cetera, et cetera.

03:14:18.200 However, I hear a lot of...

03:14:19.880 And you guys might object to this, but feminist position that the world would be better without

03:14:27.960 men.

03:14:29.120 I'd like to ask that question.

03:14:30.280 Would the world be better without men?

03:14:31.880 And assume, you know what?

03:14:32.960 I'll be charitable.

03:14:33.660 Women can just asexually reproduce.

03:14:35.660 So you can still have, like, baby girls, I guess.

03:14:38.880 Would the world be better without men?

03:14:40.680 No, but the world would be better without toxic masculinity.

03:14:43.240 Oh, no.

03:14:44.540 But the world would be better without hardcore toxic masculinity and hardcore toxic femininity.

03:14:49.520 But to put it shortly, no.

03:14:51.760 So better with men?

03:14:53.500 Yeah.

03:14:53.780 I think men just need to chill the fuck out a little.

03:14:55.040 What do you think?

03:14:55.320 That's my standpoint.

03:14:55.900 Which wording are you going with?

03:14:57.720 Better or worse without men?

03:15:01.100 Would the world be better without men?

03:15:04.460 No.

03:15:05.820 No.

03:15:07.180 Absolutely not.

03:15:08.260 No.

03:15:08.780 No.

03:15:09.440 Definitely not.

03:15:10.520 No.

03:15:11.380 Okay.

03:15:11.880 Pretty reasonable then.

03:15:15.040 I don't know where we even were here.

03:15:17.120 We have some chats.

03:15:17.840 I got to let some chats come through.

03:15:19.580 We have Teddy Westside.

03:15:20.940 Sorry for the delay, man.

03:15:22.780 Appreciate the message.

03:15:24.040 Westside 29 donated $200.

03:15:27.180 Have you met Ted?

03:15:28.820 Some of these women just proved that they are willing to sacrifice their family for their happiness.

03:15:34.420 Most men will sacrifice their happiness for their families.

03:15:38.220 Good.

03:15:38.880 Chair 458.

03:15:41.180 True.

03:15:41.760 That's an interesting saying.

03:15:43.180 Men will sacrifice their happiness for their family.

03:15:45.700 Women will sacrifice their happiness.

03:15:47.900 Or sorry.

03:15:48.420 Sacrifice their family for their happiness.

03:15:51.720 Okay.

03:15:52.240 Thank you, Teddy Westside.

03:15:55.780 Legend.

03:15:57.500 Wait for it.

03:15:58.740 Dairy.

03:16:01.220 How I met your mother.

03:16:02.640 How I met your mother.

03:16:02.740 I can't even disagree with you, Mr. Teddy Westside 25.

03:16:20.120 You can hear it.

03:16:20.920 I can confirm that she does not smell like cigarettes.

03:16:23.740 I can confirm that I do smell like cigarettes.

03:16:25.780 She's quite lovely.

03:16:27.200 I like her.

03:16:28.140 Thanks, man.

03:16:28.540 Should we debate if she smells like cigarettes?

03:16:31.460 I like her.

03:16:32.000 Pasty George donated $200 and four cents.

03:16:35.540 Oh, God.

03:16:36.200 Many men find intelligence in women very appealing and attractive, but they are turned off by intelligent

03:16:41.820 women who are turned into knee tards when infected by feminism.

03:16:47.280 Fire.

03:16:48.280 Yo.

03:16:48.680 Can we go back to the cigarettes thing?

03:16:49.860 I appreciate it, man.

03:16:52.360 Feel free to roast me.

03:16:53.340 I love it.

03:16:53.460 Appreciate it.

03:16:54.140 Keep it coming.

03:16:56.220 Yeah, man.

03:16:57.780 I smell like cigarettes.

03:16:58.840 No, you don't.

03:17:00.060 I smell like asbestos, though.

03:17:01.140 I explored some abandoned buildings earlier.

03:17:04.400 Okay.

03:17:04.680 I can do a kind of smell bad.

03:17:05.520 You should definitely not smell it more.

03:17:07.380 Yeah.

03:17:08.620 Yeah.

03:17:09.720 It's okay.

03:17:10.740 It's not good.

03:17:11.540 Wait, what?

03:17:12.240 It smells like asbestos?

03:17:13.520 What?

03:17:14.140 Oh, I was exploring some abandoned buildings.

03:17:16.240 Oh, you have asbestos?

03:17:17.980 Asbestos.

03:17:18.620 Great.

03:17:20.880 Wonderful.

03:17:21.460 That's great.

03:17:22.100 Wait, so I had a question for you.

03:17:23.700 Yeah.

03:17:24.380 So you had said that you would be okay with if she had $100 in her bank account.

03:17:29.000 Oh.

03:17:29.440 $100 in her bank account.

03:17:30.820 Sure.

03:17:30.940 And nothing else.

03:17:31.840 But you were kind of on the fence and not okay with her having $100,000 in debt.

03:17:35.740 Wait, what?

03:17:37.720 That's what you said.

03:17:40.640 No.

03:17:41.720 Wait, I don't understand.

03:17:43.020 Yeah, so you said that you were okay if you dated this girl at Chick-fil-A, but you made

03:17:46.680 a lot of money, but the girl at Chick-fil-A only had $100 in her bank account.

03:17:50.480 Yeah.

03:17:50.680 You said that was 100% fine.

03:17:52.460 Yeah.

03:17:53.140 But you had a slight inclination, like a problem, if she had $100,000 in debt.

03:17:59.140 How are these?

03:17:59.900 I just want to know why.

03:18:01.160 How are these conflicting?

03:18:01.840 No, it's for my, because I struggle with the debt piece ever since I left OnlyFans.

03:18:06.700 So I want to know why the $100 is different from the debt to you.

03:18:12.260 Well, the difference would be that if she has $100 in her bank account, I guess the entailment

03:18:18.800 there is she doesn't have $100,000 in debt.

03:18:21.520 But the two are not the same.

03:18:25.840 You do realize that, right?

03:18:26.940 Yes.

03:18:27.140 Yeah.

03:18:27.380 I'm just asking why the debt piece was so important to you to just, you were almost to say, no,

03:18:33.720 you wouldn't date her.

03:18:34.860 Well, okay.

03:18:35.140 I guess I could put it super simply.

03:18:36.860 So you have two guys, right?

03:18:38.280 One of them has a net worth of $100 and then the, and zero debt.

03:18:45.720 And then the other guy has a net worth of negative $100,000.

03:18:50.860 Mm-hmm.

03:18:52.140 That, that's the, the issue.

03:18:55.800 Okay.

03:18:58.120 Well, so I'm just wondering why, why the debt was just so important to you.

03:19:02.560 Well, that's it.

03:19:03.600 Well, like in, let's say it's like a traditional marriage dynamic.

03:19:06.660 I, I don't, I think, do you take on your partner's debt when you marry them?

03:19:12.180 I think.

03:19:13.900 I think you do, can, I don't know.

03:19:17.120 Uh, that, in any case, that would be a financial liability in the relationship.

03:19:21.740 I don't really understand what is not.

03:19:24.960 No, I just, I just wanted to know why it was important to you.

03:19:28.640 That's all.

03:19:29.980 Well, yeah, it would be, I mean, it's not, it's not like a positive.

03:19:32.560 It's not a positive thing to add.

03:19:33.480 It's not ideal.

03:19:34.300 It's not ideal.

03:19:35.080 For sure.

03:19:35.400 Yeah.

03:19:36.920 But, because when I left OnlyFans, I had, I had a 780 credit score from last year.

03:19:42.360 But my, this past year of my life, I've dropped down to a 470.

03:19:46.360 Because I had to give up that huge chunk of income and I had like a lot of stuff go wrong.

03:19:51.320 Okay.

03:19:51.840 Um, so I really would kind, it would kind of suck if I met someone and they turned me down

03:19:59.300 because I had all this credit, this credit debt that I just obtained.

03:20:03.320 Right?

03:20:03.680 Okay, I see.

03:20:04.920 So that's why I was asking.

03:20:06.160 It wasn't anything against your question or why.

03:20:07.980 I'm just like, for my personal, I'm like, wow, if that's really that important, maybe

03:20:11.820 I should work on it a little harder.

03:20:15.440 Well, I mean, I don't know what kind of, I'm assuming you want like a more traditional

03:20:20.000 dynamic.

03:20:20.480 You said you're Christian.

03:20:21.400 Yeah.

03:20:22.040 So like a guy is going to be looking at the liabilities of a woman who he's interested

03:20:26.960 in long-term relationship with, um, like, uh, coming into a relationship with a hundred

03:20:36.200 thousand dollars of debt.

03:20:37.200 And if you're going to be looking to him to like help you with the debt, that's going to

03:20:42.040 have some sort of impact financially on, on you, the family.

03:20:46.180 I don't know if you're planning on having kids.

03:20:47.660 Um, he's going to look at that as a liability and he might say like, for example, okay,

03:20:54.540 well I can just date a woman who has zero debt.

03:20:58.880 It is a detractor, I would say.

03:21:00.900 Yeah.

03:21:01.080 But I don't think it's an imminent no for some guys, depending on how much, you know,

03:21:05.920 depending on the type of guy they are.

03:21:07.600 So just depends.

03:21:08.560 What if she was actively working on it?

03:21:11.660 Like I get it.

03:21:12.280 I don't know if it's going to be a deal breaker necessarily for a guy, but it depends his financial

03:21:16.620 standing.

03:21:17.620 It depends what you're, if you're looking for him to save you basically.

03:21:22.740 I mean, it really depends.

03:21:23.880 But, um, I, I wouldn't say having debt is ever a positive.

03:21:28.880 Like I don't think it's ever a positive.

03:21:30.660 Some guy might be like, whatever.

03:21:32.240 If, I mean, if, if he otherwise likes you, but that will be that, I mean, it's literally

03:21:37.800 going to be a financial liability in the relationship and in the marriage.

03:21:42.940 So, uh, I'm trying to think of like a, um, yeah.

03:21:50.460 No, that's fine.

03:21:51.400 I just had that question.

03:21:52.300 I mean, but I even said like, if the woman's perfect, um, that wouldn't be a deal breaker.

03:21:56.580 But the, the, the point I was trying to make there was not make a statement about, uh, my

03:22:03.120 willingness to date women who have debt.

03:22:04.920 My position there was more so to articulate that men really like in terms of a woman's

03:22:11.420 finances, um, even if you're really high earning guy, uh, it is like the, the hundred

03:22:20.700 K in debt that that's obviously less than ideal, but men don't care about woman's money.

03:22:27.960 Really?

03:22:28.360 Like if, like to the same degree that women care about it, like if, again, if you're a

03:22:35.660 doctor and if you're a female doctor, female attorney, really good chance.

03:22:40.340 I don't care if the guy's really cool and good looking, whatever.

03:22:43.440 You're probably not dating the guy who works at McDonald's, even if he's like a great guy

03:22:49.140 and good looking or whatever.

03:22:51.700 Because, okay.

03:22:52.560 I'm speaking in generalities here.

03:22:54.480 Generalities.

03:22:55.040 Yeah.

03:22:55.200 But there are some, some super successful cutthroat lawyer is going to date the manager at McDonald's,

03:23:04.560 I guess.

03:23:05.060 I mean, it happens, I guess, but it's the, I'm just doing a comparison here.

03:23:11.100 It's way less likely.

03:23:12.180 Of course.

03:23:12.500 Uh, a message from the government of Canada.

03:23:16.280 Pasty George donated $200 and four cents.

03:23:20.020 Yo, thank you, man.

03:23:20.640 Whenever a feminist's views and ideologies are challenged, they always resort to the I'm

03:23:25.540 feeling attacked claim and, or they tone police the conversation, just waiting for the claims

03:23:31.080 to come up.

03:23:32.180 I don't know that that was directed towards Pasty, but I don't feel attacked at all.

03:23:36.200 I feel this is just a normal conversation and debate.

03:23:39.500 So I don't know where that came from, but I don't feel attacked at all.

03:23:42.120 I don't think anybody here feels attacked.

03:23:44.220 I think we're just trying to have a normal conversation.

03:23:46.500 So I'm going to do a couple of shout outs.

03:23:48.280 I do kind of smell like I always smoke cigarettes.

03:23:49.640 I don't even smoke cigarettes.

03:23:51.540 Aaron, thank you for the $5 on Cash App.

03:23:54.060 Nick, pull, guys, TTS 200 read, or sorry, sorry, TTS 200 read 100.

03:24:01.700 If you guys want to get it in, streamlabs.com slash whatever, Venmo, Cash App, whatever pod,

03:24:06.000 twitch.tv slash whatever, drop us a follow and a Prime sub.

03:24:12.520 Guys, it's been, hey, we need some, we need a little support over there on Twitch.

03:24:17.100 Yo, Maggie, thank you for the Prime.

03:24:19.380 It's been one hour since we've had a Prime sub.

03:24:21.100 I think it's Bugged Boys.

03:24:22.020 Can you guys check for that?

03:24:23.280 Also, shop.whatever.com, limited edition drop, those orange ones, limited edition.

03:24:28.260 You have 10 days to get it, ends at the end of October, and then Discord, discord.gg slash whatever.

03:24:35.200 That's fine.

03:24:36.420 And like the video, guys.

03:24:38.600 And, okay, I need to get up for a sec.

03:24:41.320 Felicity, if you want to sit here and then as I get up, you can switch to my seat when she's back.

03:24:48.640 If you want to do, like, this stuff, this string of stuff.

03:24:55.580 Okay, what years were World War I?

03:24:58.260 World War I?

03:24:59.320 Yeah.

03:24:59.680 I'm going to be dead honest, I do not remember.

03:25:01.680 1914 through 1917.

03:25:03.760 Guess.

03:25:06.740 In 1914.

03:25:09.300 I'm sorry, dude.

03:25:11.440 And you said 1914 to 1917?

03:25:14.560 Yeah, it might have been 1919, but who said?

03:25:16.560 What do you think?

03:25:17.460 1914 to 1918.

03:25:20.120 I don't know.

03:25:22.380 Guess.

03:25:23.540 1914 to 1918.

03:25:24.480 Guess?

03:25:25.320 Whatever.

03:25:26.060 She sounded the most accurate.

03:25:27.660 Did you say 1914 to 1918?

03:25:30.880 That.

03:25:31.320 What do you think?

03:25:31.820 1914 to 1918.

03:25:34.020 1914 to 1918.

03:25:36.080 I'm not sure.

03:25:37.240 How about...

03:25:37.660 Oh, wait.

03:25:38.980 Go.

03:25:39.320 Sorry.

03:25:39.440 Um, I know that it's early 1900s, so I'm going to say, like, 1910 to 1915.

03:25:47.780 Okay.

03:25:48.200 How about if you know it for sure, don't say anything.

03:25:50.940 Okay?

03:25:52.080 Um, yes, it's 1914 to 1918.

03:25:55.020 What about World War II?

03:25:58.320 Girl, I don't even remember.

03:25:59.340 You gotta guess.

03:26:00.340 You gotta guess.

03:26:00.860 Uh, 1931.

03:26:04.540 I really couldn't tell you.

03:26:05.660 1931 to when?

03:26:08.080 I truly don't know.

03:26:09.500 You have to guess.

03:26:10.420 This is fun.

03:26:13.000 May I ask why?

03:26:15.520 Um...

03:26:15.920 The answer is, I don't know.

03:26:17.080 I don't remember.

03:26:17.900 I'm off zero sleep, and I can't think back to what I learned in freshman year of high school.

03:26:23.040 How many years do you think it lasted?

03:26:24.920 Uh, you're putting me on the spot.

03:26:29.940 I don't know.

03:26:30.420 Let's give it, like, five years.

03:26:31.560 I truly don't remember.

03:26:33.040 I'm not a history buff.

03:26:35.020 I don't think you have to be a history buff.

03:26:37.240 I just think I gotta remember what happened in high school, which I really don't remember,

03:26:39.940 because I all blocked it out of my brain.

03:26:42.020 My school was rough.

03:26:43.020 Okay, next.

03:26:43.820 Around 1939 to 1947.

03:26:46.320 Hey.

03:26:46.580 Okay, what do you...

03:26:47.360 I know it.

03:26:48.120 Okay, skip.

03:26:49.640 1938 to 1945.

03:26:51.720 Okay, what do you think?

03:26:52.420 30 to 45.

03:26:53.160 1938 to 1945.

03:26:57.520 I'm gonna say 1940 to 1945.

03:27:00.180 I think nobody had a right answer.

03:27:01.660 What is it?

03:27:02.440 1939 to 1945.

03:27:03.600 Oh, dang.

03:27:04.680 I said 1940.

03:27:05.940 Not too bad.

03:27:07.280 Not too bad.

03:27:08.100 Close.

03:27:08.880 I said 30.

03:27:09.240 One year off.

03:27:10.180 Can we not do the history?

03:27:12.220 Okay.

03:27:13.760 Or math.

03:27:14.520 Please, God, don't math.

03:27:15.220 Name three countries.

03:27:18.300 From what continent?

03:27:20.240 Any continent.

03:27:21.180 Algeria, Romania, Philippines, Moldova, Germany.

03:27:24.820 Only three, only three.

03:27:26.480 Don't repeat, guys.

03:27:27.920 That's why only three, only three.

03:27:29.100 Okay, Philippines, Romania, Moldova.

03:27:31.360 Okay.

03:27:31.800 Chad, Taiwan, and South Africa.

03:27:35.980 India, Japan, and China.

03:27:38.440 Italy, France, Spain.

03:27:39.980 I was gonna say Italy, France, Spain.

03:27:41.700 Ireland, Great Britain, or, I mean, Britain, depending on your opinion.

03:27:49.880 Portugal.

03:27:51.700 Italy, China, France.

03:27:53.740 I think China was already said, and Italy.

03:27:56.080 And France.

03:27:57.180 Oh, well, are we supposed to name ones that aren't said?

03:28:00.140 You can't repeat.

03:28:02.960 Well, I don't know what was said.

03:28:04.900 I don't remember.

03:28:05.740 I'll just throw out three new ones.

03:28:07.540 No, no.

03:28:12.020 Okay.

03:28:14.700 I don't know.

03:28:16.880 I mean, there's a lot of countries.

03:28:18.260 You got this.

03:28:19.200 You go to UCSB?

03:28:20.420 I don't go to UCSB.

03:28:22.040 Oh.

03:28:22.540 You go to college, right?

03:28:23.960 I go to, yeah.

03:28:24.840 You go to college?

03:28:25.540 Yeah.

03:28:25.860 I mean.

03:28:26.540 They both go to UCSB.

03:28:28.180 Yeah.

03:28:28.720 Yeah.

03:28:29.620 Maybe that's why?

03:28:30.420 Yeah.

03:28:30.780 Yeah, that's why.

03:28:32.600 I'm just kidding.

03:28:33.580 Okay.

03:28:34.460 But you have to guess.

03:28:38.040 Italy, China, France.

03:28:40.360 That's all I know.

03:28:41.780 That's all I know.

03:28:42.900 Do you know what country you're in right now?

03:28:45.040 United States.

03:28:46.000 Okay.

03:28:47.000 I can't.

03:28:48.040 Yeah.

03:28:48.440 And like, what's the one above the U.S.?

03:28:50.620 Canada.

03:28:51.220 And what's the one below?

03:28:55.420 Below the United States?

03:28:58.780 What's below us?

03:28:59.960 Um, hmm, Alaska, Antarctica, whatever.

03:29:06.060 No.

03:29:06.420 I'm sorry, what?

03:29:07.700 Ew.

03:29:08.500 No, no.

03:29:09.200 Like, what is below the United States?

03:29:13.240 What country?

03:29:14.080 I don't know.

03:29:15.640 You don't know?

03:29:16.480 No.

03:29:16.960 Wait, I'm sorry, what?

03:29:18.760 Is that like the border?

03:29:20.980 You definitely know the border.

03:29:22.020 Oh, Mexico?

03:29:22.160 The border.

03:29:22.740 Well, is Mexico to the side?

03:29:25.320 No, it's from the coast.

03:29:26.600 Mexico is not to the side, but, well, it's, it's there.

03:29:31.180 South of the border.

03:29:31.540 Okay.

03:29:32.140 Well, I helped you with that.

03:29:33.680 Um, what's your guess?

03:29:34.740 Let's do.

03:29:35.180 Or three, three countries?

03:29:36.700 Um, I'll do Korea, Croatia, and London.

03:29:43.480 London's not a country.

03:29:44.680 Oh, sorry.

03:29:45.440 Um, let's do Korea, Croatia, and Kenya.

03:29:48.380 Okay.

03:29:49.100 Sorry.

03:29:49.700 You're so funny.

03:29:50.320 Chile, Argentina, and Brazil.

03:29:53.500 Okay, now, name a continent.

03:29:57.340 Let's do Antarctica.

03:29:59.660 Get it out of the way.

03:30:00.500 Asia.

03:30:01.460 Africa.

03:30:02.880 India.

03:30:05.340 North America.

03:30:06.020 Wait, no, stop.

03:30:07.220 No, no, no.

03:30:07.740 Oh, shit.

03:30:07.980 We can't skip that.

03:30:09.720 What did you say?

03:30:10.280 You said India?

03:30:11.080 Oh, my God, yeah.

03:30:12.320 Uh, North America.

03:30:13.600 I just said North America.

03:30:14.780 Yeah, she just said North America.

03:30:15.700 South America.

03:30:16.420 Okay.

03:30:17.040 You're up.

03:30:17.960 Okay.

03:30:18.560 We're not going to get to all the countries, but there's one left.

03:30:21.300 Russia?

03:30:21.700 Or not countries, continents.

03:30:22.560 My bad.

03:30:23.300 I was...

03:30:24.560 Uh, what'd you say?

03:30:26.900 Russia?

03:30:27.840 No.

03:30:28.680 What's that?

03:30:29.560 That's not a country.

03:30:30.820 That's not a country.

03:30:31.760 That's a country.

03:30:32.540 I'm going to make an observation about the way this podcast is set up and designed.

03:30:36.660 Australia.

03:30:38.320 Yeah.

03:30:39.300 Really, really strong.

03:30:40.440 Not a single break.

03:30:44.200 It's very interesting.

03:30:45.500 I've actually...

03:30:46.120 I talked to some girls.

03:30:47.600 Wait, what?

03:30:47.740 And I was like, is there something I should know about this podcast?

03:30:50.460 What?

03:30:50.940 Hmm?

03:30:52.940 What?

03:30:53.160 I don't wait to make her criticism until I'm back.

03:30:55.960 Okay.

03:30:56.460 And then so I can address it.

03:30:58.080 Hard.

03:31:00.640 I just really got to pee.

03:31:02.240 Okay.

03:31:03.340 Um...

03:31:03.860 Should I do the minimum yearly income?

03:31:08.580 Wait, what did you say?

03:31:09.360 Yeah, I did.

03:31:10.460 Okay.

03:31:11.360 What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?

03:31:14.760 Minimum yearly income?

03:31:16.000 Yes.

03:31:17.260 Uh, if he makes 50 and I make 50, we can make it work.

03:31:20.740 So, 50?

03:31:21.660 A thousand a year, yes.

03:31:22.480 Yeah.

03:31:22.760 Okay.

03:31:23.940 Well, that also depends where I'm living.

03:31:25.300 Like, are we assuming we're living here?

03:31:26.860 Or...

03:31:27.100 Wherever you want...

03:31:28.380 Where do you want to live?

03:31:29.440 I don't know.

03:31:30.580 Okay.

03:31:30.820 Let's say you're in...

03:31:31.600 You're here.

03:31:32.120 You're in Southern California.

03:31:33.000 Um, that really just depends on what I'm making.

03:31:38.460 Like, hopefully, similar.

03:31:42.320 Which is, like, can you give me a range?

03:31:45.500 Hopefully, like...

03:31:47.500 Well, I mean, I want to be making at least, like, 100K.

03:31:51.020 So, 100?

03:31:52.280 Probably.

03:31:53.440 Okay.

03:31:54.180 What about you?

03:31:55.140 200 to, like, 400K.

03:31:57.600 Dang, girl.

03:31:58.880 That's a lot.

03:31:59.180 Are you in Southern California?

03:32:01.120 I mean, I'm not really from here.

03:32:02.580 I don't really know the prices.

03:32:03.500 I'm from Chicago.

03:32:04.960 But, I mean, like, do you...

03:32:06.800 Are you planning to live in Southern California?

03:32:08.620 Like, is that what your answer's based on?

03:32:10.560 Because she was like, oh, the location...

03:32:11.940 I mean, it's just in general.

03:32:12.880 It's kind of what...

03:32:13.700 It would just match my job.

03:32:15.540 So, just some way to mind.

03:32:17.240 Okay.

03:32:17.460 What about you?

03:32:18.440 Minimum 80.

03:32:19.480 Okay.

03:32:21.560 I've dated guys making 200 to millions of dollars.

03:32:26.700 So, maybe, like, 200, honestly.

03:32:30.040 Okay.

03:32:30.480 Or less.

03:32:31.400 80 to 100.

03:32:33.160 I would say in Southern California, 3 to 500,000.

03:32:38.720 Okay.

03:32:40.040 Next.

03:32:43.000 Probably 150 to 200.

03:32:45.980 Okay.

03:32:46.280 There was some high answers there.

03:32:49.840 But, honestly, I can't...

03:32:51.700 I'm not going to debate you guys on that.

03:32:53.000 I'm not good at that.

03:32:54.060 So...

03:32:54.200 What's your answer?

03:32:55.840 I put 150, I believe.

03:32:58.260 Because I live here.

03:33:00.060 And I'm from here.

03:33:01.280 And I plan on living here.

03:33:03.080 I feel like 150 is good for Santa Barbara.

03:33:05.300 My answer is lower.

03:33:06.120 Because I could never see myself living in California.

03:33:09.120 I would live in...

03:33:10.060 Even if in the States.

03:33:11.300 I'd live in, like, a rural part of either Montana or Idaho, Colorado.

03:33:16.260 But, to be honest, I might not even live in the States.

03:33:19.860 Montana's beautiful.

03:33:20.820 Montana is beautiful.

03:33:22.140 I actually applied.

03:33:23.140 Like, complete conversation change.

03:33:24.760 If I get this job, oh, my God.

03:33:26.000 I'm going to be a rancher in Montana, dude.

03:33:27.640 I'm so stoked.

03:33:28.820 That's what I do.

03:33:29.540 I do seasonal work.

03:33:30.400 Can I just say the cost of living, like, is exorbitant and absolutely insane.

03:33:36.920 And I think we should talk about it.

03:33:39.480 Because it's truly not okay.

03:33:43.900 Pretty bad.

03:33:45.220 You know what I mean?

03:33:46.060 Like, come on.

03:33:46.500 Yeah, that's kind of why I picked the amount that I picked.

03:33:50.000 Because I make between 80 and 100K by myself.

03:33:53.200 You're scraping by.

03:33:54.280 And I can...

03:33:54.760 Yeah.

03:33:55.020 Yeah.

03:33:55.200 So, it's, like, to have a whole family and a house and, like, that's not enough.

03:33:59.840 Okay.

03:34:00.120 I have another question.

03:34:02.160 Would...

03:34:02.840 Okay.

03:34:03.700 Listen.

03:34:04.600 Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?

03:34:11.180 Random.

03:34:11.840 Random.

03:34:12.280 Okay.

03:34:12.600 Starting with you, chair one.

03:34:18.320 Set me out on the hike.

03:34:19.940 How far am I from civilization?

03:34:22.680 I mean...

03:34:23.360 Black bear or brown bear?

03:34:24.840 It doesn't matter.

03:34:26.000 They're both equally angry.

03:34:27.080 So, it's random.

03:34:28.960 You're...

03:34:29.040 Let's just say you're on, like...

03:34:29.800 Bear got kids?

03:34:30.880 Is the man, like...

03:34:31.540 Is the man, like, a gay, like, hey?

03:34:33.840 Or is he, like, a scruffy guy?

03:34:35.420 Like, the man...

03:34:36.820 It's, like, a random man that you would pass on the street.

03:34:40.760 Which street, bro?

03:34:41.700 There's a lot of types of men out there.

03:34:43.180 There's a lot of bears out there.

03:34:44.600 Polar bear versus...

03:34:46.320 Random, like, San Francisco gay dude?

03:34:49.460 I'd always choose the gay dude.

03:34:50.540 Well, that's the point.

03:34:50.600 But if we're talking black bear versus some random Chicago tweaker, yeah, I'm going to choose the black bear.

03:34:56.080 The point is that it's random, so you don't know.

03:34:59.580 It's random, so I don't know.

03:35:01.160 Yeah, it's totally...

03:35:01.800 Do I have a weapon on me?

03:35:03.560 Well, you're hiking, so...

03:35:05.260 So, I probably...

03:35:06.100 On my hikes, I have taken knives with me.

03:35:08.000 Okay.

03:35:08.900 No weapon.

03:35:09.860 No weapon.

03:35:10.480 Okay, okay, okay.

03:35:15.660 But...

03:35:16.220 It's like a regular hiking trail.

03:35:18.840 Okay, I can out-climb a bear.

03:35:21.920 Yeah, you're a good climber.

03:35:23.260 I'm a good climber, so I'm actually going to choose...

03:35:24.880 I'm going to choose the bear simply because I have more survival...

03:35:29.780 I have a higher survival rate with a bear.

03:35:32.020 Why do you think that?

03:35:33.120 I can climb like a motherfucker.

03:35:34.900 But you're not...

03:35:35.720 You know bears can climb.

03:35:36.940 No, you make a good point.

03:35:40.460 I've actually come across a bunch of bears in Colorado, and most of them have been chill.

03:35:43.920 They're pretty similar to gators, actually.

03:35:46.280 They just kind of square you up, unless they got kids or unless they're a brown bear.

03:35:49.660 But if we're thinking average bear, average bear is a black bear.

03:35:52.080 Black bears, as long as you ain't fuck with them, they ain't fuck with you.

03:35:54.780 So, I'm going to go with the bear.

03:35:55.700 Okay, that's just my standpoint.

03:35:58.920 What's your answer?

03:35:59.400 The person.

03:36:00.220 The man.

03:36:00.640 Yeah, the man.

03:36:01.600 The man.

03:36:03.080 The man all day, every day.

03:36:05.600 The man.

03:36:06.960 Man.

03:36:08.160 The man all the way.

03:36:10.200 Okay.

03:36:10.560 So, I actually got chased by a black bear up a mountain in New Hampshire.

03:36:15.400 So, I know firsthand that I'm going to choose the man.

03:36:19.140 So, you're the only one that picked bear, and you picked bear because why you think the

03:36:24.680 random man is more of a threat?

03:36:26.580 It depends.

03:36:29.140 If both of them had a threatening demeanor, I'd rather...

03:36:33.260 I think I could outrun a bear before I could outrun a man.

03:36:37.320 You know what?

03:36:37.980 You're probably right, because I've never been chased down by a bear.

03:36:40.420 So, I truthfully don't know.

03:36:41.520 I truthfully don't know.

03:36:42.580 You might not be able to outrun either, honestly.

03:36:44.800 Yeah, good point.

03:36:45.840 But I'd rather die from bear than die from man.

03:36:48.060 What did you do to like...

03:36:48.900 How did I survive the bear attack?

03:36:51.240 So, literally ran for a mile up this mountain.

03:36:55.260 It took forever, and I almost like gave up and sacrificed myself to save my dog.

03:37:00.340 Like, I was just so tired.

03:37:02.500 But I was with a man, a guy, and he chopped up a branch and started just whipping them at

03:37:09.360 the bear, and one of them got the bear in the forehead, and it ran up a tree and left

03:37:13.520 us alone.

03:37:14.240 Okay, so you think the random man is more of a threat, basically, is what you're saying?

03:37:19.780 To an extent, yeah.

03:37:21.420 I mean, it's very situational.

03:37:23.160 So, why do you think that?

03:37:26.400 I've...

03:37:27.480 Maybe it's because...

03:37:29.480 You ever...

03:37:29.900 This is...

03:37:31.540 You ever, like, walk through the Fort Lauderdale Bright Line Station at, like, three in the

03:37:37.640 morning?

03:37:38.000 Yeah.

03:37:38.540 It's pretty bad.

03:37:40.520 Then again, though, actually, you know what?

03:37:42.480 I will have to change my answer if it's a hiking situation.

03:37:44.660 Most male hikers I've met, they're pretty chill.

03:37:47.180 They're pretty chill.

03:37:47.820 So, if it's a hiking situation, I guess I choose a man.

03:37:49.920 If you're on a hike, like, yeah, I was going to say, what type of men do you typically

03:37:53.580 see on a hike?

03:37:54.540 Like, usually when people...

03:37:55.660 You're right, yeah, yeah.

03:37:56.740 I get some, like, Gregory Allen Isakov type.

03:37:59.620 And they're very friendly.

03:38:00.520 I was thinking, like, average city male and city bear, but, like, male hikers, they can

03:38:06.080 be chill.

03:38:06.420 I've had some great conversations with male hikers on the top of a 14er, dude.

03:38:10.760 What if it's a koala bear?

03:38:12.020 Aha, I didn't think of that, did ya?

03:38:13.400 Don't...

03:38:13.720 Oh, sorry.

03:38:14.580 Don't, don't.

03:38:16.420 Yeah, don't, don't read them.

03:38:18.340 I'm full.

03:38:18.920 I'm full.

03:38:19.180 I'm full.

03:38:19.920 Like, um, so, but, like, a city man is, like, a regular man, too.

03:38:28.380 Like, what do you mean?

03:38:30.240 All I'm saying is that when I randomly walk down the streets of Fort Lauderdale and I

03:38:36.460 see a man, I'm in a lot more of a threat than I'm walking down a random trail and I see

03:38:41.300 a man.

03:38:41.780 So, I didn't put that into perspective of, we're on a hike.

03:38:44.780 So, you know what?

03:38:45.420 Sure.

03:38:45.740 I'll choose the man.

03:38:46.220 I could probably juke out the man, but when it comes to, like, threat, a man can do a lot

03:38:52.100 worse things to me than a bear can.

03:38:53.740 But, like, why do you think the man would potentially be a threat?

03:38:57.280 It's just the way that I was conditioned.

03:38:58.560 I don't hate men at all, but I naturally fear men.

03:39:04.840 Why?

03:39:05.920 Because of what has been done to me by men in the past.

03:39:08.740 It's not all men.

03:39:10.020 But in my case, it's always been a man.

03:39:12.420 How many men do you think would be a threat?

03:39:16.140 You want me to give it, like, a percentage?

03:39:18.320 Sure, yeah.

03:39:18.980 20%, but that's enough for me to be afraid.

03:39:24.860 That's pretty much it.

03:39:26.740 Because it's happened before.

03:39:28.500 And I'd rather just not take the risk.

03:39:30.600 I'd rather just get ripped to shreds than the bear her to-do list.

03:39:34.960 Oh, wait, sorry.

03:39:35.300 All right, I'm back here.

03:39:40.640 I couldn't help but notice, conveniently, you say you claim you're not very feminine,

03:39:47.240 but, well, I'll get to that in a bit.

03:39:49.620 It was convenient when I stepped away.

03:39:53.180 It was only at that moment when I wasn't here to defend myself, defend the podcast,

03:39:57.600 that you wanted to do this sisterhood thing of basically trying to throw the show,

03:40:03.140 my name, myself, under the bus.

03:40:05.680 I find that very convenient, typical feminine strategy, reputation destruction,

03:40:12.980 especially when somebody's not there to defend themselves.

03:40:15.660 Now that I've returned to the table, though.

03:40:17.660 That was not my intention.

03:40:18.580 I apologize.

03:40:19.380 You seemed like, conveniently, when, and Felicity's not, no offense to Felicity,

03:40:24.940 but she's not particularly equipped to make a defense of the whatever podcast.

03:40:30.340 So, again, conveniently, while I was gone, you chose, despite, what are we at?

03:40:34.960 We've been streaming for nearly four hours now.

03:40:37.140 You've had plenty of opportunity to raise your criticisms.

03:40:40.520 The moment you chose to raise your criticism happened to be the moment I was briefly away from the table.

03:40:47.720 Why don't I engage you on your criticism then?

03:40:51.300 Go ahead.

03:40:52.040 For sure.

03:40:52.680 Okay.

03:40:53.680 For one, it's everything down to all bright white lights.

03:41:00.540 I understand we're given water and everything, but something about being in here for, maybe this is just because of my ADHD brain,

03:41:08.640 but, like, seated here for seven hours at a time in constant interrogation, in constant conversation, in constant debate,

03:41:16.040 that's the reason I've taken a couple steps out, is just because the way my attention span works, I really can't stay like this for a while.

03:41:23.100 And I've talked to a couple girls, and they kind of say the same thing.

03:41:26.160 Like I said, I understand that this is supposed to be a discussion, but it seems like every question has some sort of ulterior motive.

03:41:35.300 But, you know what?

03:41:35.920 To be fair, then again, I didn't look at any of these podcasts coming in before.

03:41:38.860 I thought this was a dating podcast.

03:41:40.960 Like, y'all were going to ask me, like, ask us some silly, crazy questions about, like, some dating experiences.

03:41:45.820 But we're really doing, like, a deep dive into feminism, and to be honest, I'm not equipped for this.

03:41:50.080 I was not mentally prepared to dive into a whole debate on gender roles, and you know what?

03:41:55.660 Although I'm rolling with the punches, to be honest, my brain's fried, dude.

03:41:59.040 I've been traveling nonstop in 10 hours straight.

03:42:02.560 Okay.

03:42:03.020 10 hours, dude, 10 hours total sleep over the course of a week.

03:42:06.260 So every time I pause on, like, an answer, it's like, oh, you're done.

03:42:10.020 I'm like, no, dude, I'm just tired, man.

03:42:12.200 Like, I don't know.

03:42:13.360 There's something a little, like, I don't know.

03:42:18.140 There's a lot of, like, police interrogation attacks.

03:42:20.220 Like, the bright overhead lights going right on you.

03:42:23.040 Like, seven hours straight, you're sitting here just having the same exact conversation.

03:42:28.000 It's like, damn, man.

03:42:29.620 Let me have a smoke break or some shit.

03:42:31.400 Oh, you're right.

03:42:32.660 Maybe I do need a smoke break.

03:42:34.200 Okay, so bright lights feels like you're in a police interrogation.

03:42:40.720 I mean, the lighting is so bright in here.

03:42:42.820 I typically, like, first off, this is like a Hollywood movie trope.

03:42:48.880 The swinging light at the dark room, total trope.

03:42:53.880 Maybe that was the case in the 80s.

03:42:55.440 Maybe if you actually look at, like, modernity, you look at modern police interrogations, the room is lit.

03:43:08.000 So I don't understand that.

03:43:10.180 The bright lights.

03:43:12.460 I don't know if you've ever been on a film set.

03:43:14.820 But these are actually, while bright.

03:43:19.380 They could be brighter.

03:43:20.300 I'm aware of that, yeah.

03:43:21.180 Actually, there's way more, like, I don't know if you've ever done anything on stage.

03:43:26.000 No, sir.

03:43:26.280 Where the lights are literally blinding and you can't even see the audience.

03:43:29.860 Yeah.

03:43:30.960 I don't really understand the criticism about the lights.

03:43:34.900 Um, you said we, you were anticipating talking about dating.

03:43:38.540 Yeah, I thought it was, I honestly thought it was going to be, like, some really silly conversation.

03:43:42.800 I was not equipped to dive right into all this.

03:43:46.060 So you kind of caught me off guard with a lot of these questions.

03:43:48.280 And I will be honest with you, like.

03:43:49.780 So I'll address that.

03:43:51.420 So, I mean.

03:43:53.040 I should have done my research.

03:43:54.460 That's on me.

03:43:55.060 I thought this was going to be, like, some real silly, just casual banter.

03:43:59.860 I was not equipped.

03:44:00.740 How could that possibly be the case when you even admitted yourself that you talked to three girls or a few girls who had been on the show before?

03:44:08.920 So on one hand, you're playing this sort of game where you say, well, Brian, I didn't know what I was getting into.

03:44:14.380 But on the other hand, you talked to girls who had been on the show who told you what you were getting into.

03:44:20.900 I talked to them literally a couple hours before then.

03:44:23.980 So I had, like, two hours to be like, oh, shit.

03:44:25.740 Now, I actually dispute, though, that we haven't been talking about dating.

03:44:31.260 We've actually pretty much only talked about dating for the vast majority of the show.

03:44:36.660 All that stuff about money, I made it.

03:44:39.720 I presented a really compelling case for why it's actually really related to dating.

03:44:44.220 No, it is.

03:44:44.600 Money is related to dating.

03:44:46.220 All the feminism stuff.

03:44:47.380 It was still within the lens and framework of a dating conversation.

03:44:50.640 I could go, like, if we're having a feminism debate, if I started going off and, like, oh, the 18-whatever Seneca Falls Convention and blah, blah, blah, and I'm trying to think of some other stuff.

03:45:03.660 If we start getting into, like, draft conversations and, like, women's suffrage in the 1920s.

03:45:08.800 It's all in the lens of dating, and I understand.

03:45:10.160 Then we could be like, okay, we're getting a little bit off of dating.

03:45:13.440 Yeah.

03:45:13.880 No, I understand.

03:45:14.300 But the conversation has been pretty much about, like, gender roles, dating, et cetera, et cetera.

03:45:21.940 So there's a confusion there.

03:45:24.480 I guess, though, I mean, I think, I don't know if you reiterated this, people are free to get up and step away from the table if you want to use the bathroom.

03:45:33.960 We're not, so people can take breaks.

03:45:36.540 It sounded like when I was away, you were saying, we're not allowed breaks.

03:45:40.380 People can take breaks.

03:45:41.320 You've gotten up a couple times.

03:45:42.980 Other people have gotten up a couple times.

03:45:45.660 We have food back there.

03:45:46.800 We fed you guys.

03:45:47.900 Appreciate that.

03:45:48.520 So I don't really think that this is really a fair characterization at all.

03:45:54.760 Got pizza.

03:45:55.860 There's a bunch of snacks back there.

03:45:57.620 Actually, I might take you up on that.

03:45:58.960 I have not eaten today.

03:46:00.120 So thank you for the food, actually.

03:46:01.680 Is it typical in police interrogations that you're provided with breaks whenever you want?

03:46:07.880 You have a really schnazzy bathroom.

03:46:11.320 You're given food.

03:46:13.900 You know, you do make a valid point.

03:46:15.480 I don't have any rebuttal against that because you do have a good point.

03:46:18.160 And also, any of you, if, I mean, we'd like you guys to say, but if any of you were like, you know what?

03:46:22.680 Fuck this shit.

03:46:23.240 I'm leaving.

03:46:24.760 You're not detained.

03:46:26.080 None of you are detained.

03:46:27.200 None of you are here.

03:46:27.560 Like, you can't just walk out of a police interrogation.

03:46:30.840 Well, I guess there's, I'm not going to get into the, I mean, if you can be arrested and being interrogated, in which case you're not free to leave.

03:46:41.120 Anyways, that's kind of besides the point.

03:46:42.700 What was your other criticisms?

03:46:45.800 Honestly, that was pretty much it.

03:46:47.520 Then again, it could be a factor of my ADHD brain and my sleep deprivation.

03:46:50.960 So I will actually take you up on the bathroom break and the energy drinks.

03:46:55.280 And I do appreciate it.

03:46:56.660 Thank you, man.

03:46:57.260 Yeah, we're really just a jail here.

03:47:00.940 We're just, you know, with our energy drinks and our pizza.

03:47:05.900 And I'm just confused about the, like, the bright lights.

03:47:10.780 Didn't you say something about water?

03:47:13.460 Like, Felicity's gotten you refills like four times or something.

03:47:16.580 No, no, no.

03:47:16.700 That's not what I mean.

03:47:18.380 I said no.

03:47:19.000 I said we absolutely do get water and we do get food.

03:47:20.920 But there's just something about the environment and the atmosphere that it, I don't know, man.

03:47:26.100 That's why.

03:47:26.560 It's, maybe, I'm just not used to the Hollywood shit, dude.

03:47:29.320 This is probably how every podcast is run.

03:47:31.240 But this is the first time I've gone on an eight-hour long podcast like this.

03:47:34.640 So maybe this is how it's all supposed to be.

03:47:36.500 Maybe that's why the wage gap exists.

03:47:38.600 Well, I don't think it actually exists.

03:47:40.240 But I think most men would be just chilling, having a conversation for eight hours.

03:47:48.160 In fact, shouldn't women be better attuned to just sitting around having a conversation?

03:47:54.160 I don't think it's particularly physically hard to do it.

03:47:56.520 I'm not that good at sitting in one place for too long.

03:47:58.440 I get very jumpy.

03:47:59.840 That's just me.

03:48:01.100 My other question here is you had reached out.

03:48:04.840 You DM'd us asking to put you on the show.

03:48:07.680 You know, as far as you not, there should have been perhaps an effort on your part to have watched the show that you requested to be on and flew all the way from Florida to be here to do and took a train and did XYZ to be here.

03:48:29.420 Don't you think that says more about you than it would say about me?

03:48:33.160 It could.

03:48:34.720 Yeah.

03:48:35.240 What is going on with the mic?

03:48:36.660 You got to make me aware.

03:48:38.160 I can't see the mic.

03:48:38.980 No, I'm sorry.

03:48:39.480 You got to let me know.

03:48:42.000 Yeah, just leave the mic where it is, please.

03:48:45.980 So isn't that more a lacking on your part than anything that I'm doing on the podcast?

03:48:52.580 To an extent, yes.

03:48:53.840 Like you asked to be on the show, you know, you saw Kybra's clip, like that was clearly the clip that you saw with Kybra, clearly like a contentious adversarial conversation that we were having with her.

03:49:05.240 So I don't understand where the confusion here is.

03:49:10.340 Yeah, you're right.

03:49:11.200 To an extent, I'll be dead honest with you.

03:49:12.520 I knew exactly what I was getting into.

03:49:14.180 I knew exactly there would come a point where I'm sitting here.

03:49:15.540 Oh, so you lied?

03:49:16.880 What do you mean I lied?

03:49:17.800 Well, you, you, hold on.

03:49:18.960 I didn't do like intentional research on this.

03:49:20.900 You said you knew exactly what you were getting into, but then also didn't, I'm a little confused.

03:49:27.860 Well, I already see a pattern.

03:49:29.020 For example, when you were setting up the table, I noticed that in the interview with Kybra, you had Kybra sitting specifically right here, which is very interesting that you put me right here as well.

03:49:40.240 It seems like you also made comments about, well, aren't you homeless?

03:49:43.740 Bringing up a lot of personal things that had nothing to do with the concept of anything we were talking about.

03:49:47.980 It just seems a lot of it was, well, what, what's the criticism of the positioning of where people, what's the issue with the positioning?

03:49:54.880 And then I'll do the, I'll adjust the homeless thing.

03:49:56.480 There's just some weird alignments to it.

03:49:57.860 Weird.

03:49:58.220 Either way.

03:49:59.280 Weird alignments?

03:50:00.300 What does that even mean?

03:50:00.940 We're running in circles.

03:50:02.380 No, we're not running in circles.

03:50:03.740 I'm asking for clarification.

03:50:06.040 What is your next question, man?

03:50:07.180 Oh, are you stonewalling?

03:50:09.800 Is this what you do in relationships?

03:50:11.380 So I think it's perfectly fair if you're, yeah, I know, shocked.

03:50:14.880 That's exactly what you're doing.

03:50:16.160 I think it's perfectly fair if somebody accuses you of something to at least have some sort of evidence to be able to back it up.

03:50:22.120 I'm simply asking what you brought up.

03:50:24.800 Brian, you're toxic.

03:50:26.480 You put people in certain positions.

03:50:28.560 Can I say something?

03:50:31.640 Hold on, one sec.

03:50:32.620 No, actually, I would like to listen to her talk because we're having a back and forth and you keep forgetting that there's a whole panel, man.

03:50:37.860 So I'm going to take back and let you say what you have to say.

03:50:40.220 Look, you're the one who brought this up.

03:50:43.960 You conveniently, again, brought it up when I was gone and Felicity was here.

03:50:49.800 Conveniently wanted to make a criticism when I was away.

03:50:52.660 I'm here now.

03:50:53.500 I think I'm not being particularly belligerent, but I'm challenging you on your assertions.

03:51:00.220 I think it's fair for you to explain your criticism.

03:51:06.140 I mean, this is really milquetoast pushback here.

03:51:09.200 I have the kid gloves on conversationally.

03:51:13.680 I already said what I had to say, man.

03:51:15.680 But what about the positioning did you object to?

03:51:18.620 I'm confused there.

03:51:20.640 Is there some grand conspiracy?

03:51:22.220 No, there is no grand conspiracy, man.

03:51:25.960 There is no grand conspiracy, to be dead honest.

03:51:28.920 I am really exhausted.

03:51:30.300 I'm going to grab another energy drink, if that's okay.

03:51:32.540 And I'll let y'all continue the conversation.

03:51:34.360 I have to use the bathroom.

03:51:36.000 Is that okay?

03:51:37.740 Avoidant?

03:51:38.180 Well, I've been having to pee for the past, like, while.

03:51:40.100 And I'm honestly so done with this, dude.

03:51:42.660 You're done because I'm giving you, like, a little bit of pushback on your criticisms of the show?

03:51:50.540 No.

03:51:50.900 I just need to take a break.

03:51:52.020 Is that okay?

03:51:52.880 I'm just asking you, what is the objection to the placement of people?

03:51:59.060 I'm trying to understand what the objection there is.

03:52:04.080 No, it was just one of the weird alignments I noticed here.

03:52:05.820 I mean...

03:52:06.160 What does that mean?

03:52:07.220 I don't know what alignment means.

03:52:08.620 What does that mean?

03:52:09.580 It's just something I noticed.

03:52:10.880 It feelsies?

03:52:12.260 Jesus Christ.

03:52:12.740 Just the vibe?

03:52:13.420 Yeah, just the vibe, dude.

03:52:14.540 No, dude.

03:52:16.600 I'm sorry, sir.

03:52:17.500 I think it's a valid question.

03:52:19.640 It was your claim.

03:52:20.520 I'm just...

03:52:21.380 I'm asking for you to explain your position.

03:52:25.700 I've even given you pushback on your position.

03:52:30.600 I'm just asking...

03:52:31.100 Catherine, please, ma'am.

03:52:32.940 All right.

03:52:33.720 If you want to talk about it when you come back.

03:52:38.280 I'd love to, ma'am.

03:52:39.180 I think she brought it up because the questions were about geography and World Wars history.

03:52:46.560 So a lot of us haven't been in school for 10 plus years, which, you know, that seemed like a gotcha.

03:52:52.860 I think that was just her point in bringing it up once you left.

03:52:55.500 Felicity asks, but you would acknowledge that that was like a three-minute filler conversation that she undertook while I was gone.

03:53:03.640 And the 99% of the rest of the time of the podcast has been mostly...

03:53:08.640 About dating, yeah.

03:53:09.820 Dating related.

03:53:10.260 I agree.

03:53:10.680 So, you had something?

03:53:14.360 Go ahead.

03:53:14.440 Yeah, look, I think she's young and I think she's inexperienced and I've...

03:53:20.080 Sisterhood.

03:53:20.900 Go ahead.

03:53:21.300 No, I mean, no, seriously, though.

03:53:22.820 I want to stand up for her because she's obviously brought up the fact that, like, she's had issues with men.

03:53:27.740 And, look, I think you've been nothing but respectful.

03:53:30.820 I think you have done your part as a host.

03:53:34.160 Like, I have absolutely nothing bad to say about you or anything that you've done.

03:53:38.240 But I also want to kind of stand in the middle for her as well because she's clearly uncomfortable.

03:53:45.600 She's clearly young.

03:53:46.920 You know, she's clearly inexperienced.

03:53:48.200 She wasn't uncomfortable when I was gone.

03:53:50.400 She's uncomfortable.

03:53:50.600 No, no, no, no.

03:53:51.140 She's uncomfortable.

03:53:51.420 When I was gone.

03:53:52.340 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

03:53:53.000 And she had no problem amongst the women who weren't going to push back.

03:53:55.880 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

03:53:55.980 Hold on, hold on, right, right, right, right.

03:53:56.060 She's uncomfortable with men.

03:53:57.940 She's talked about it.

03:53:59.840 I'm not saying...

03:54:00.520 Can I ask you a question?

03:54:01.240 If I was black and she said she had a bad experience with a black person, that that would be ever a justification to say you're uncomfortable with a black person?

03:54:08.300 No, I'm not.

03:54:09.020 And I'm not saying you've done anything wrong.

03:54:10.700 I haven't victimized her.

03:54:11.160 I haven't victimized her.

03:54:12.020 I'm not going to allow you to do this feminist thing where we're going to say...

03:54:15.220 I'm not a feminist.

03:54:16.180 Hold on.

03:54:16.760 Because somebody has had a bad experience with men, that they can then map that onto all men in the same way that I would object if somebody's had a bad experience with a black person.

03:54:26.060 That you can then map that onto all black people.

03:54:28.580 That's racism.

03:54:29.600 I'm against that.

03:54:30.520 I'm also against sexism as it relates to men.

03:54:33.340 I understand.

03:54:34.080 I'm just trying to quell things.

03:54:35.520 And I can see that you're clearly irritated, which is fair.

03:54:38.940 Whoa, a little bit.

03:54:39.920 Which is fair.

03:54:40.880 I'm, like, validating your feelings.

03:54:42.300 Well, I'm more upset that you won't...

03:54:44.620 I'm more...

03:54:44.920 How is this funny?

03:54:45.780 This is not funny.

03:54:46.560 She's clearly uncomfortable.

03:54:47.800 She's, like, about to cry, you know?

03:54:50.020 And I get, and I get you're also uncomfortable, and you're also perturbed.

03:54:53.920 Like, I get it.

03:54:54.660 I get both sides.

03:54:56.060 However, like, she...

03:54:57.760 Just try to give her a little bit of a break.

03:55:00.120 That's all I'm saying.

03:55:01.140 That's all I'm saying.

03:55:02.260 It's not about feminism.

03:55:03.040 It was...

03:55:03.480 I am not a feminist in any regard.

03:55:05.520 But, like...

03:55:06.200 That's up for debate, but...

03:55:07.420 I'm not.

03:55:08.580 Okay, that's great.

03:55:09.340 Can anybody else say...

03:55:10.040 Like, can anybody else...

03:55:11.160 Like, I'm not pointing you out, and I'm not saying that you have done anything wrong at all.

03:55:15.940 At all.

03:55:16.520 I do think she is being very respectful, and it is...

03:55:18.980 Her, or...

03:55:19.840 Her.

03:55:20.560 I...

03:55:20.720 Yeah, she's not...

03:55:21.520 I'm...

03:55:21.820 She's not being disrespectful.

03:55:23.480 At all.

03:55:23.960 But...

03:55:23.980 I think just, like, we should just tone it down a notch and, like, restart.

03:55:27.080 Yeah.

03:55:27.600 Well, the thing is, I think none of you...

03:55:30.720 Like, if somebody's coming and making a claim against me, none of you here are gonna come to my defense.

03:55:37.640 I think it's perfectly reasonable that, like, I don't think it's...

03:55:42.600 It's...

03:55:43.600 My frustration isn't so much with the content of what she's saying.

03:55:47.520 It's that she's refusing to engage...

03:55:51.680 Like, I'm...

03:55:53.380 You think I'm a jerk.

03:55:54.620 Why am I a jerk?

03:55:55.340 I'm not gonna tell you.

03:55:56.980 Okay.

03:55:57.740 Well...

03:55:58.380 I can't...

03:55:59.620 I can't do anything with that.

03:56:00.980 I want to explore why she thinks what she thinks.

03:56:04.500 Can I give you a little feedback?

03:56:06.100 I think it's...

03:56:06.800 Sure, go ahead.

03:56:07.280 Okay.

03:56:08.100 I think...

03:56:08.880 I think it's, like, based on your delivery.

03:56:10.980 Once again, I don't...

03:56:12.280 It's a tone.

03:56:12.940 I don't know.

03:56:13.740 It's a tone.

03:56:14.100 No, it's...

03:56:14.700 It is your delivery.

03:56:15.680 And once again, I don't think you've done anything wrong, necessarily.

03:56:18.740 I just think that she's extra sensitive.

03:56:20.900 And I...

03:56:21.120 Well, I didn't like her tone, either.

03:56:22.660 No, fair.

03:56:22.820 I didn't like her tone...

03:56:23.960 That's fair.

03:56:24.100 ...when I was away from the table, and she was like, you know what?

03:56:27.500 Fuck this podcast, basically.

03:56:29.520 I didn't...

03:56:29.820 She didn't say that verbatim, but that's the impression on it.

03:56:32.260 No, I think that's fair.

03:56:33.220 You're in the right, as well.

03:56:34.580 I'm not telling you...

03:56:35.660 Okay, well, whatever.

03:56:36.460 Her tone was her tone.

03:56:37.360 I wanted to actually explore the content of what she was saying.

03:56:40.140 The tone is kind of secondary to me.

03:56:43.340 Okay.

03:56:44.380 Did you have more?

03:56:46.480 No.

03:56:48.440 Okay.

03:56:49.660 Do you want to start with a different question?

03:56:51.160 Maybe some levity?

03:56:52.260 Maybe, like, I don't know.

03:56:53.300 That's good to be.

03:56:54.280 No, it's always good to get...

03:56:57.200 For things to get interesting.

03:56:58.980 But, yeah, I mean...

03:57:01.960 Look, my position is, if somebody is going to forward a criticism, I think it's a bit cowardly

03:57:10.280 when you ask them to back up.

03:57:12.280 Why are you doing this?

03:57:14.120 Oh, because of what this person's saying, which is crazy.

03:57:16.500 Oh, the super chat?

03:57:17.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:57:17.820 Okay, I didn't see the super chat.

03:57:18.460 Oh, yeah, not you.

03:57:19.420 Not you, not you.

03:57:20.700 I do think if you ask somebody to defend their position, and they, like, run away, and they

03:57:30.880 won't actually back it up with any evidence for the claim, yeah, I think that's a bit cowardly.

03:57:37.380 Fair.

03:57:38.620 Fair.

03:57:38.820 Like, I would have...

03:57:39.940 I didn't want to get bogged down in this meta conversation.

03:57:42.160 She brought it up.

03:57:44.960 So, if you bring something up, I'm going to want to address it, like, simple as that.

03:57:52.120 Okay.

03:57:52.660 If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

03:57:55.780 No, understood.

03:57:56.500 I get it.

03:57:57.000 I mean, we're literally in a open forum, like, debate setting.

03:58:01.660 So, like, I get that.

03:58:02.980 I get that.

03:58:03.480 Absolutely.

03:58:04.140 If she didn't want to receive pushback, she probably shouldn't have voiced her criticisms.

03:58:11.220 I hear you.

03:58:12.280 Like, if somebody accused you of murder, are you supposed to just say, you know what,

03:58:15.520 yes, even if you didn't do it?

03:58:17.660 No.

03:58:17.900 You're right.

03:58:18.480 I did commit murder.

03:58:19.800 Guilty as charged.

03:58:20.800 Put me in the execution chair.

03:58:23.180 No, of course not.

03:58:24.000 You would defend yourself, right?

03:58:24.920 Right.

03:58:25.260 Yeah.

03:58:25.940 So, in this case, I disagree with her assessment.

03:58:28.920 I think it's fair for her to mount a defense of her position.

03:58:34.600 I think we should leave it there.

03:58:35.700 And do you want to ask us, like, another question about the relationship stuff?

03:58:38.900 Or you said you had some stuff written down.

03:58:42.300 Did you want to start with that?

03:58:42.900 Well, I think, is she, did she, is she returning?

03:58:46.440 I think she just needs a little break.

03:58:47.920 A break right now.

03:58:48.920 A break.

03:58:50.040 Okay.

03:58:51.440 Well, I mean, I will want some explanation upon return, but for the time being, I'm going

03:58:57.740 to move on.

03:58:58.440 There's some chats here.

03:58:59.540 All right.

03:59:00.940 Yo, someone, thank you for the, it looks like you bought some t-shirts.

03:59:03.900 Uh, Felicity, one.

03:59:06.000 My bad.

03:59:06.380 I'm actually rescuing a bee.

03:59:08.060 The fuck are you?

03:59:09.340 What?

03:59:09.640 Rescuing a bee.

03:59:11.240 A bee.

03:59:13.320 Okay.

03:59:14.000 Just.

03:59:15.260 It was a bee, so I'd rescue it.

03:59:17.920 At the table, or?

03:59:20.000 On the floor.

03:59:24.060 Okay.

03:59:24.420 All right.

03:59:25.480 Trying to move things on, but draws my ire once more.

03:59:29.540 All right.

03:59:31.680 Teddy Westside, 29, donated $200.

03:59:35.400 Felicity, you can take the seat.

03:59:36.460 Jerry looks like an undercover cop.

03:59:38.140 Chair one, you look, you drive a utility van.

03:59:41.580 Chair two looks like she wants to punch Brian.

03:59:44.840 Jessica breaks mine.

03:59:46.880 Felicity runs from police.

03:59:49.180 Chair four, five are based.

03:59:51.960 Thank you.

03:59:52.760 Chair two looks like she wants to punch Brian.

03:59:55.280 I actually went to college to be a cop when I was 20.

03:59:58.960 I totally see that.

04:00:00.080 Good job, Teddy.

04:00:00.780 Well, I'm not going to punch you.

04:00:02.620 Sounds good.

04:00:03.320 Cool.

04:00:04.280 We do not condone violence on the whatever podcast.

04:00:07.320 I don't know that either.

04:00:09.460 Nash Unabo donated $200.

04:00:12.380 Thank you, Matt.

04:00:12.680 For Brian WTF.

04:00:14.540 Why?

04:00:15.580 See one, please.

04:00:17.100 For the love of all that is holy.

04:00:19.400 Shut up.

04:00:20.400 You are complaining about being tired, but you won't shut up.

04:00:23.700 Dot attention seeking drama.

04:00:25.300 Kids are the worst types of people on earth.

04:00:27.620 Oh, is this a rage quit?

04:00:36.500 I think it is.

04:00:37.560 Milk toast.

04:00:39.000 Milk toast pushback.

04:00:40.840 Do you want to at least explain the rage quit?

04:00:44.680 Do you want to come back for a moment?

04:00:46.120 Don't quit.

04:00:46.860 Don't quit.

04:00:47.880 Yeah, listen to her.

04:00:48.640 Don't quit.

04:00:49.180 Come back.

04:00:50.100 It was a fun convo before that thing.

04:00:52.880 Look, we have your back.

04:00:56.760 We have everybody's back.

04:00:58.020 Let's just like that.

04:00:58.440 No, they have your back.

04:00:59.340 Don't worry.

04:00:59.660 They don't have my back.

04:01:01.260 They don't have my back.

04:01:01.780 No, it's okay.

04:01:02.540 I just validated your feelings.

04:01:05.380 Validate.

04:01:06.000 Yes, I did.

04:01:07.320 You should appreciate that.

04:01:09.160 Look, you guys don't need to have my back.

04:01:11.420 You can have her back.

04:01:12.300 I don't care.

04:01:12.800 It can be unfair.

04:01:13.660 It doesn't have to.

04:01:14.620 Okay.

04:01:15.060 Can I say something?

04:01:15.780 It doesn't have to be one or the other.

04:01:17.360 It can be both.

04:01:18.220 I know.

04:01:18.860 I can see your side.

04:01:20.120 I'm a Libra, man.

04:01:20.940 I just had a birthday.

04:01:21.900 Like, come on.

04:01:22.460 I can see both sides.

04:01:23.980 Okay.

04:01:24.100 Do you want some applesauce?

04:01:25.240 I can see.

04:01:25.660 You want some applesauce?

04:01:27.080 We have some applesauce.

04:01:28.160 What do you want?

04:01:28.880 Applesauce?

04:01:29.400 What do we have?

04:01:30.340 We have a...

04:01:32.300 I want her to come back.

04:01:35.280 She can have a popsicle.

04:01:38.700 Um...

04:01:39.700 I'm not really used to, like, sitting in one place, but, like, eight hours should be

04:01:47.680 a constant conversation.

04:01:53.500 But...

04:01:54.020 Okay.

04:01:58.380 Yeah.

04:01:58.580 Just take a break.

04:01:59.340 Yeah.

04:02:00.080 Just...

04:02:00.560 Okay.

04:02:06.220 That's fine.

04:02:07.300 That's all good.

04:02:08.080 Take a breather.

04:02:09.060 I want to give her a hug, but she's crying, man.

04:02:11.980 Like, yeah.

04:02:12.600 I want to give her a hug.

04:02:13.200 That's the goal.

04:02:14.080 Don't you understand that?

04:02:14.660 No, no, no, no.

04:02:15.300 It's not...

04:02:15.880 It's not...

04:02:16.600 I sat there for four hours of shit.

04:02:17.840 Take some accountability.

04:02:19.240 That's not the goal.

04:02:20.260 The goal is not to make people cry.

04:02:21.760 No, it doesn't have to be...

04:02:22.140 You're doing that shit on your own.

04:02:23.400 Take some fucking accountability.

04:02:24.880 It doesn't have to be like...

04:02:25.740 My goal is never to make anybody cry.

04:02:27.600 That's a completely ridiculous, ludicrous fucking accusation.

04:02:31.260 You continue your bullshit.

04:02:32.900 I was perfectly polite there, and I said, if you need to take a break, take a break.

04:02:36.080 But you double down on your fucking bullshit accusations.

04:02:40.240 Never is it ever the goal to make somebody cry.

04:02:42.740 Never, ever.

04:02:43.740 That's on you.

04:02:45.000 That's on you.

04:02:46.040 Don't put that shit on me.

04:02:48.600 I think you should just give her a minute.

04:02:50.920 Okay.

04:02:51.280 Ah.

04:02:52.460 She can say that I'm trying to make people cry, but I defend myself, and I'm the bad

04:02:57.320 guy for...

04:02:58.040 I mean, yeah.

04:02:58.680 Defend yourself, but give her a minute.

04:03:00.260 I literally said, go take a break, and I was about to get into it, and then...

04:03:07.140 Was it my questions?

04:03:09.140 There's an idea of instigation here, I guess.

04:03:14.500 So, anyways.

04:03:15.540 I was literally trying to move it on.

04:03:17.720 I was trying to move it on.

04:03:18.680 Wait.

04:03:18.820 I want to say, the World War II, World War I questions are not to make you guys feel

04:03:22.800 stupid.

04:03:23.700 It's just fun and a change of pace.

04:03:25.640 It's just lighthearted because Brian's not here.

04:03:27.660 I'm not a debater by any means.

04:03:29.100 And it's just fun.

04:03:30.560 I think she felt it was a gotcha.

04:03:32.420 It's not.

04:03:33.020 We do it every single show.

04:03:34.140 I know.

04:03:34.600 I've seen it.

04:03:35.500 I think she just felt like that.

04:03:36.980 No, I mean...

04:03:37.540 And needed a break.

04:03:38.920 Those are just the questions that I typically ask because I'm not a debater.

04:03:42.580 That's fair.

04:03:43.400 You know what's actually kind of funny about this?

04:03:45.880 If she didn't...

04:03:47.020 Like, the chair four, if she didn't say anything, and I was just like, yeah, take a break,

04:03:50.760 go on the balcony, whatever.

04:03:52.440 She actually made it worse.

04:03:55.780 Actually made it worse because it's kind of like, I don't know.

04:03:57.860 Like, affirming the...

04:04:01.180 I don't know.

04:04:03.780 Like, should have just honestly...

04:04:07.140 Just let her go on the balcony.

04:04:10.040 I was like, can I go...

04:04:11.940 Anyways, whatever.

04:04:12.980 A message from the government of Canada.

04:04:16.320 Pasty George donated $200.04.

04:04:20.340 Brian is correct.

04:04:21.920 As soon as he left the table, she went off to trash talk his show while in the company

04:04:26.740 of other women.

04:04:28.200 Sisterhood ball poop.

04:04:33.180 I don't know.

04:04:34.500 Also true.

04:04:35.240 I mean, technically, that's exactly what happened.

04:04:40.560 Pasty George never misses...

04:04:42.240 A message from the government of Canada.

04:04:46.860 Pasty George donated $200.04.

04:04:51.000 Hey, Brian.

04:04:52.040 If some panelists feel tired, should I do a coffee pop to help stimulate their minds and

04:04:57.140 improve their focus?

04:04:58.700 We have energy drinks.

04:04:59.980 We don't, like, require somebody to send in, like, a pop.

04:05:06.940 Like, we just have energy drinks back there for the guests.

04:05:10.420 We've had that for a super long time.

04:05:15.040 Most people, I mean, most people just opt to not have the energy drinks, I guess.

04:05:19.500 But, yeah.

04:05:20.840 A message from the government of Canada.

04:05:25.360 Pasty George donated $200.04.

04:05:29.460 Chair, one running away from Brian's simple questions is what feminists do.

04:05:34.240 They always run away when their viewpoints and positions are challenged.

04:05:38.680 Then the sisterhood jumps in to ruin the day.

04:05:42.040 I mean, I just don't understand why that was so escalated.

04:05:46.560 She brought up the criticism.

04:05:48.680 You came back and you asked about it, and I feel like it just got really out of hand,

04:05:52.660 and I don't understand why.

04:05:54.280 Well, I think there's a tendency sometimes, if you feel like you're on the back foot,

04:06:01.040 like, if you've said something and you're not really prepared to defend it,

04:06:07.540 you're going to resort to my feelings.

04:06:10.400 So, I think that's what happened there.

04:06:18.200 Hold on.

04:06:19.040 We have a super chat here from Pelagic.

04:06:22.480 Pelagic, I don't believe her.

04:06:24.240 This came in, like, 25 minutes ago.

04:06:27.300 Thank you for the super chat, man.

04:06:28.560 Don't believe her.

04:06:30.600 I don't know what this is in reference to.

04:06:32.000 Pelagic, you can include more with 100 super chat.

04:06:36.280 Yeah, you can put more words there, man.

04:06:39.640 Appreciate it, man.

04:06:40.580 Appreciate it.

04:06:42.360 Let's see here.

04:06:43.220 Guys, $200 TTS, $100 read, Venmo, Cash App, whatever pod.

04:06:50.260 You want to pull it up?

04:06:53.740 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:06:56.000 Shop.whatever.com.

04:06:57.320 Get yourself some merch.

04:06:58.300 Discord.gg slash whatever.

04:06:59.700 Like the video.

04:07:01.740 I show speed.

04:07:02.860 Chat.

04:07:03.180 Who's ready for me to come on the podcast?

04:07:04.740 Any week now.

04:07:05.480 It's happening.

04:07:06.920 I show speed.

04:07:07.820 Coming on the show.

04:07:09.040 Chat.

04:07:09.380 Who's ready for me to come on the podcast?

04:07:11.740 Here, I'll just get rid of that.

04:07:13.040 That's already come up.

04:07:15.320 Yo, Dan.

04:07:15.880 Thank you for the super chat, man.

04:07:16.840 Appreciate it.

04:07:17.400 Thank you.

04:07:17.700 Thank you.

04:07:18.240 Nice duck photo, by the way.

04:07:20.400 Also, hashtag Big Labia Matter BLM.

04:07:23.020 Very important movement.

04:07:25.340 All right.

04:07:25.580 Now that everybody is thoroughly uncomfortable.

04:07:33.200 What was I saying?

04:07:34.240 What were we talking about?

04:07:35.480 What were we talking about before all that?

04:07:37.440 The drama.

04:07:39.000 Yeah.

04:07:39.600 Her criticisms of the show.

04:07:41.120 Criticisms of the show.

04:07:42.620 About, like, the seat placement and everything.

04:07:44.660 Oh, the seat.

04:07:45.840 Just malicious seat placement.

04:07:50.160 I mean, I know why.

04:07:51.080 I don't even understand.

04:07:51.880 Most people, like, isn't it kind of a privilege to get chair one?

04:07:56.840 Like, you get to go first?

04:07:57.980 I mean, I think it's whoever is the chattiest.

04:08:05.400 Yeah.

04:08:05.820 I mean, I sometimes have a general read on people, and I'm like, okay, who's going to be, like,

04:08:09.400 more chatty?

04:08:10.040 I'll put them in chair one.

04:08:11.940 I mean...

04:08:12.480 But, like, what can you infer that is...

04:08:15.360 Well, she said, like, her friend was in chair one, right?

04:08:18.120 Maybe she's thinking there's some, like, ulterior motive.

04:08:20.760 Like, you have some...

04:08:21.720 What is it?

04:08:22.600 I don't know.

04:08:23.340 I'm just guessing.

04:08:23.860 What is the ulterior motive?

04:08:25.260 That you want to...

04:08:26.660 I mean, I put the person who I think is going to, like...

04:08:29.880 I tend to put the people who I feel get a sense who are more conversational.

04:08:33.520 I'll put them here.

04:08:34.500 But that can vary.

04:08:35.620 That can vary.

04:08:36.460 Yeah.

04:08:36.760 I know this.

04:08:37.880 I just don't know why she's...

04:08:40.000 I don't know.

04:08:40.560 I mean, she doesn't know this place.

04:08:42.680 So...

04:08:43.120 What was the other one after that?

04:08:44.780 It was the...

04:08:45.520 The lighting?

04:08:46.220 No, no.

04:08:46.540 There was the chair thing.

04:08:49.580 The police interrogation?

04:08:50.540 The ordering of the chair.

04:08:52.040 No, no.

04:08:52.380 It was after the...

04:08:53.540 Eh, whatever.

04:08:55.800 We have...

04:08:56.360 A message from the government of Canada.

04:08:59.620 Pastey George donated $200.04.

04:09:03.840 Entitlement, tone policing, sexism, misandry, false allegations, beck, etc.

04:09:10.720 These are some of the reasons why men are moving away from women influenced by feminism.

04:09:15.760 Hmm.

04:09:16.260 Hmm.

04:09:23.780 Well, there definitely was tone policing.

04:09:27.280 Was there misandry?

04:09:29.700 False allegations, I guess?

04:09:31.260 Well, you got a little irritated, but I don't think tone policing is...

04:09:35.580 Because you weren't irritated before until it started becoming like a back and forth.

04:09:40.980 Well, I wasn't all that irritated.

04:09:42.620 Like, people have criticisms of the show.

04:09:44.620 I'm...

04:09:44.900 I think you both were just irritated with each other.

04:09:47.140 I was irritated that she kind of started wanting to put on the tears.

04:09:54.440 And like...

04:09:54.700 Was she crying?

04:09:56.140 Eh, well, not...

04:09:56.960 Maybe that's an exaggeration, but like...

04:09:59.720 But getting emotional is like an escape.

04:10:03.060 I'm so tired, blah, blah, blah.

04:10:04.500 Oh, my God.

04:10:05.260 It's like...

04:10:07.280 At least back up your position, you know?

04:10:11.180 Anyways.

04:10:11.720 Some people...

04:10:12.920 I don't know.

04:10:13.660 Just more sensitive, I guess.

04:10:16.560 Do you think so?

04:10:19.280 Yeah.

04:10:19.740 Some people are more sensitive.

04:10:20.740 I know girls that I would, like, never invite here because they're way too sensitive and would get offended.

04:10:27.160 All right.

04:10:27.680 We have Pelagic here.

04:10:30.080 Brian, it was clear.

04:10:31.320 Bro, this was such a mistake that this girl said.

04:10:33.960 The chair four said this.

04:10:36.680 Because now it's like, okay, I'm going to console you for 30 minutes in the bathroom.

04:10:40.700 Yeah, where did the panel...

04:10:42.060 This is why I'm like, whenever I'm upset, I don't want to be consoled.

04:10:46.420 Just let me chill out for like 10 minutes and then I'm good.

04:10:49.580 Like, I don't want to...

04:10:50.280 Oh, let's talk about it.

04:10:51.720 Do you want to hug, Brian?

04:10:53.700 No, not really.

04:10:54.480 Oh, Brian, you want to hug?

04:10:55.860 No, but this...

04:10:56.560 A big bear hug from the hike.

04:10:58.060 Yeah.

04:10:58.500 Yeah.

04:10:59.440 No, but like that thing, I feel like sometimes if somebody's upset, just let them fucking cool off for like 5, 10 minutes.

04:11:05.780 Now she's like, I'm going to affirm all your feelings and let's have a fucking therapy session in the whatever podcast bathroom.

04:11:13.280 Therapy doesn't work.

04:11:14.680 Validate.

04:11:15.400 Validate.

04:11:16.040 Oh, validate.

04:11:17.240 Yeah.

04:11:17.420 It's just, I don't think it's productive, especially in this scenario where it's like, just listen to your music on the balcony.

04:11:22.820 That's totally fine.

04:11:23.600 I mean, she's seen a message from the government of Canada.

04:11:25.900 I'll pull this back up, Pelagic.

04:11:26.940 Hasty George donated $200 and four cents.

04:11:31.080 If chair one is not used to sitting in one place, as she claims, then why did she come on the podcast when she was informed before the show on how long it could last?

04:11:40.520 Bull poop.

04:11:41.200 Yeah, she knew.

04:11:42.420 She knew the details.

04:11:43.240 Is she here?

04:11:44.960 Are we just like shit talking her while she's not even here to defend herself?

04:11:49.040 Funny how the shoe is on the...

04:11:51.000 I'm just asking because like, it's like we're talking about her.

04:11:55.800 Well, we're talking about the situation that just happened.

04:11:58.100 No, it feels like we're having like all these kind of fair game.

04:12:00.560 And she's not even coming back to like defend herself.

04:12:02.960 So I'm confused.

04:12:03.780 Like, is she coming back or not?

04:12:06.380 I'm not sure, honestly.

04:12:07.120 Or is she just listening to this?

04:12:08.600 I don't know.

04:12:08.720 There's some long therapy session in the bathroom.

04:12:10.940 Pelagic six.

04:12:11.640 Brian, it was clear she was reading the chat, so I called her out.

04:12:13.920 Chair one.

04:12:14.440 Okay.

04:12:15.600 Pelagic, thank you for the super chat, man.

04:12:16.720 Appreciate it.

04:12:17.260 All right.

04:12:17.480 Well, I'm going to get off the meta conversation then.

04:12:19.760 We'll get back into some of the topics here.

04:12:22.160 I know some of you guys sent in some pre-show notes, so we'll just do that.

04:12:25.720 Let's see here.

04:12:29.680 Shay.

04:12:31.420 If it's the first one, I'd prefer not to talk about that.

04:12:36.020 But I'll talk about two or three.

04:12:40.020 Like, can I read it and you just say no comment?

04:12:42.700 Is that cool?

04:12:45.860 Loki, I'd prefer if not.

04:12:47.140 That's fine.

04:12:47.600 I'll respect that.

04:12:48.500 Thank you.

04:12:49.940 Let's see.

04:12:50.560 Situationships, you say people are scared of commitment.

04:12:56.960 You said lots of mismatched expectations in relationships, parentheses, who is expected

04:13:02.460 to pay, et cetera.

04:13:04.600 Who is expected to pay?

04:13:06.320 Just remind me.

04:13:06.980 I know we kind of talked about that, but what's your position on that again?

04:13:10.620 From what we all talked about, it seems like there's a general expectation that men should

04:13:17.060 pay.

04:13:17.240 That's what I was talking about, but obviously that's not how everyone feels.

04:13:23.920 Okay.

04:13:24.400 I mean, do you think that that's wrong?

04:13:25.940 Do you think that shouldn't be the case?

04:13:27.280 What do you think?

04:13:28.280 I think we should move more towards like a even split.

04:13:32.700 I don't think it should be.

04:13:34.280 Even if the guy asks?

04:13:35.700 If the guy asks, that's totally different.

04:13:37.840 But I think that having that.

04:13:38.980 But somebody has to ask, right?

04:13:41.660 Wait, I'm sorry.

04:13:42.300 Ask what?

04:13:43.040 Somebody has to ask.

04:13:44.180 Somebody, right?

04:13:44.960 Oh, are you talking about paying?

04:13:46.640 No, for dates.

04:13:47.360 Somebody has to ask somebody out for the date, right?

04:13:50.200 Yeah.

04:13:50.440 But I think people should just communicate that more is what I was trying to get with

04:13:53.920 that.

04:13:54.780 Communicate what more?

04:13:56.640 Expectations.

04:13:57.400 And also when you're in a relationship, how you're feeling, where you stand.

04:14:04.240 Like we talked about earlier, the having kids and stuff like that.

04:14:08.280 I feel like that conversation can come up too late into relationships.

04:14:11.060 Nick, can you close the door for a bit?

04:14:14.520 Just fully close.

04:14:17.040 Okay.

04:14:19.060 And would you like to see a point?

04:14:23.800 Like, do you think, like what about the other things though?

04:14:27.040 Like paying for dates should be equal?

04:14:28.640 Should women initiate as frequently?

04:14:30.860 I think women should initiate more.

04:14:32.800 Should initiate more?

04:14:33.740 Okay.

04:14:34.800 Obviously that's not going to happen overnight.

04:14:36.940 I don't know if it'll ever happen.

04:14:37.980 I think we're moving closer to that.

04:14:41.200 I don't think it'll be equal necessarily, but I think it should be more common.

04:14:47.260 I mean.

04:14:48.700 Well, like for example, I asked my boyfriend out.

04:14:51.000 I told you this earlier.

04:14:52.500 And I think that that was 20 years ago.

04:14:54.400 That probably wouldn't have happened.

04:14:56.220 I mean, not necessarily.

04:14:58.240 Perhaps it's a bit more common now.

04:14:59.820 Yeah.

04:15:00.060 That's what I'm trying to imply.

04:15:01.260 But you guys weren't like mutual friends or something first?

04:15:04.300 We were, but I like officially asked him to be my boyfriend.

04:15:09.040 Oh, so you guys had already been dating though.

04:15:12.480 Not.

04:15:13.160 Like you guys had.

04:15:14.080 Well, not like officially.

04:15:15.700 So you guys never even like hung out romantically and.

04:15:20.100 Well, yeah.

04:15:20.900 But I'm saying.

04:15:21.320 You confessed your interest in him and.

04:15:24.080 The point is.

04:15:24.720 Will you be my boyfriend?

04:15:25.680 The point is that I officially asked him to be my boyfriend when that's not a very common thing.

04:15:31.600 That's all I'm saying.

04:15:33.140 I actually don't know if that's the case.

04:15:35.700 Have any of you guys asked a guy out officially?

04:15:38.560 Well, hold on.

04:15:39.040 There's two different things.

04:15:40.140 There's like been dating a guy for three months, but you're not boyfriend girlfriend yet.

04:15:46.320 And then there's like making those initial efforts and initial moves.

04:15:51.940 So if you've already been dating the guy for a period of time, like you'd agree you can be dating somebody and he's not your boyfriend.

04:15:59.340 I wouldn't call it dating.

04:16:00.860 I would say like you're in a situation ship at that point, probably.

04:16:03.740 Or that's just like talking.

04:16:04.720 Yeah.

04:16:04.940 Talking.

04:16:05.340 Well, the talking stage, right?

04:16:06.700 Yeah.

04:16:07.720 But.

04:16:07.900 Right.

04:16:08.060 But somebody can be in the talking stage for one, two, three months.

04:16:11.160 Right.

04:16:11.600 Let me go around real quick, though.

04:16:12.820 Like, has anyone officially asked a guy to be their boyfriend?

04:16:16.780 Well, the better question is.

04:16:18.740 Would be.

04:16:21.660 Proportionality.

04:16:22.820 So if you've asked a guy out a hundred times to be your boyfriend.

04:16:26.580 Or sorry.

04:16:29.200 If the guy asked you or ninety nine of your boyfriends or whatever.

04:16:34.060 Sorry, I'm getting my words mixed up here.

04:16:36.700 The point I'm trying to make is just that it's not as common as I think you're thinking it is.

04:16:40.600 So, like, have you ever asked a guy out to be your boyfriend?

04:16:43.260 No.

04:16:44.040 No.

04:16:46.120 No, no, no.

04:16:46.660 You gotta say it.

04:16:47.800 You gotta say it.

04:16:48.280 No.

04:16:49.220 No.

04:16:49.920 No.

04:16:50.540 No.

04:16:51.420 I think I answered this earlier and said no.

04:16:54.240 But I might have when I was in high school.

04:16:57.840 Okay.

04:16:58.220 But the point is that's two of how many people are we?

04:17:01.020 Like, nine or something?

04:17:01.840 Mm-hmm.

04:17:02.420 So, that's all.

04:17:03.560 Wouldn't that bolster my position?

04:17:06.120 She's also saying it's not common.

04:17:08.040 Yeah.

04:17:08.300 That's all I'm saying.

04:17:09.020 Oh, you're saying it's uncommon?

04:17:10.000 Yeah.

04:17:10.820 Oh.

04:17:11.360 Okay.

04:17:11.680 Well, I mean, there's.

04:17:13.080 I agree with you.

04:17:13.900 I think you guys have the same position, that women ask men out less.

04:17:18.680 Yeah.

04:17:19.080 Way less.

04:17:19.480 I don't know why you're arguing with me for that.

04:17:21.760 Significantly less.

04:17:22.600 Okay.

04:17:23.060 Yeah.

04:17:24.020 Yeah.

04:17:24.400 Okay.

04:17:24.880 Someone bought a hoodie.

04:17:26.760 Hold on.

04:17:27.300 Why is that not pull up?

04:17:28.840 Hold on.

04:17:30.040 One sec.

04:17:31.780 Thank you, whoever that is.

04:17:33.060 Oh, you don't have to show it.

04:17:33.900 That's okay.

04:17:34.340 Thank you, man.

04:17:36.940 Okay.

04:17:38.680 In your opinion, dating apps seem to be more about finding male validation

04:17:42.280 than actually finding a relationship.

04:17:44.860 People don't see online people as real individuals.

04:17:47.780 So they'll just ghost them.

04:17:50.320 So wait, you've been on a dating app?

04:17:52.860 No, I haven't.

04:17:53.560 Oh, you haven't even been on a dating app?

04:17:54.940 Mm-mm.

04:17:55.220 I'm speaking from like experience.

04:17:56.260 Like your friends?

04:17:57.160 Yeah.

04:17:58.000 Oh.

04:17:58.520 Yeah.

04:17:59.300 And so are male friends or female?

04:18:00.460 I met my fiance on a dating app.

04:18:02.460 I'm not going to say which one, but I did.

04:18:04.360 Wait, so you're saying dating apps, it's about men finding male validation

04:18:11.960 and not the reverse?

04:18:13.560 That's not what I was saying.

04:18:14.820 In my opinion, dating apps seem to be more about finding male validation.

04:18:18.540 I think that, well, both.

04:18:20.600 I think that women seek male validation and vice versa as well.

04:18:25.000 Oh, okay.

04:18:25.760 Wait, wait, wait.

04:18:26.120 Sorry.

04:18:26.380 I wrote that really quick.

04:18:27.520 Let me clarify.

04:18:28.220 I think I see what you're saying.

04:18:29.180 So you're saying that the women are looking for male validation?

04:18:36.300 I think both people are more, okay, let me just clarify since no one else is reading this.

04:18:41.560 What I wrote was I think dating apps are more about people finding like validation or like

04:18:48.720 hookups rather than actually a relationship and building a solid foundation and a connection.

04:18:55.260 I would say that's true.

04:18:56.340 Agreed.

04:18:56.700 I would say that's true.

04:18:57.580 I mean, the, I think both men and women can use dating apps for validation or to receive

04:19:04.820 validation from the opposite sex.

04:19:06.780 And I don't know if this is how you've meant to frame it, but my, like I said, I wrote that

04:19:11.280 in like two minutes.

04:19:12.300 Maybe my original misinterpretation was that men use the dating apps to like get validation

04:19:18.120 from women more so than women use it to get validation from men.

04:19:22.480 No, I was saying both.

04:19:23.660 Okay.

04:19:23.880 It's just, it's just my, my only gripe there would simply be, I agree with you, both men

04:19:28.440 and women do get validation from dating apps without any genuine intention of like meeting

04:19:35.740 somebody or whatever.

04:19:37.120 I would argue though, that it's more so the case that women use dating apps for validation

04:19:42.100 than the reverse.

04:19:43.120 I agree with the, like it's way, for example, um, I think if you're a guy on a dating app

04:19:51.020 and a girl's like, Hey, I'd like to go on a date with you.

04:19:53.380 I think it's way more likely that the guy's going to take her up on that than like you're

04:19:58.340 a girl on a dating app and the guy's like, Hey, I'd like to take you out on a date.

04:20:01.440 A lot of women, they just enjoy the attention, the validation, uh, not to say that men don't

04:20:09.400 do it, but to say that this is more pronounced in women.

04:20:13.220 I somewhat agree with you, but I do think that, um, like the standard of modern dating

04:20:21.340 is, I just think that people in general have just become a lot more flaky, less reliable

04:20:27.500 and less dependable, you know, cause I know plenty of people who, you know, have maybe

04:20:34.340 reached out via, uh, you know, Instagram or social media or whatever to a guy, for instance,

04:20:40.140 you know, to show interest and then the guy like never responds, you know?

04:20:44.120 So that also does happen.

04:20:45.420 It also does occur, does it occur less than what a guy to respond to or a guy to, um, approach

04:20:52.080 a woman like online?

04:20:53.220 Yes.

04:20:53.520 I also agree with you on that.

04:20:55.340 So, yeah.

04:20:56.660 Okay.

04:20:57.500 Uh, speaking of which, uh, you know, I think it's fair game.

04:21:02.520 I was asking you before, so you were originally supposed to appear with a friend on the show

04:21:08.540 and she like, by the way, I didn't say this before the show, this is, she's been trying

04:21:14.300 to be on the show.

04:21:15.040 We were, we've been talking to her, to your friend since 2023.

04:21:19.540 Okay.

04:21:20.080 So this is a third time that she's flaked on us last minute, by the way, last minute.

04:21:24.520 Um, so, you know, whatever.

04:21:28.280 It's the third time we gave her chances.

04:21:31.200 Strike or what?

04:21:32.200 So, yeah.

04:21:33.180 Um, she was supposed to be on the show today and then she claimed she fell off a horse and

04:21:40.220 hurt her rib.

04:21:41.400 That's what she told me.

04:21:42.660 Yeah.

04:21:43.460 Verbatim.

04:21:44.260 Chat.

04:21:44.920 Do you guys think?

04:21:46.440 Verbatim.

04:21:46.860 That's what she told me.

04:21:47.820 I don't believe it.

04:21:48.740 I don't know.

04:21:49.080 I looked at her IG story.

04:21:50.620 She's all, she's, unless these are from like a-

04:21:53.360 Are you going to show it?

04:21:54.260 No, I'm not going to show it.

04:21:55.480 Okay.

04:21:55.720 But she looks good.

04:21:56.800 She's on a walk at the beach with a dog.

04:21:59.880 Chilling.

04:22:00.320 I saw her.

04:22:00.840 She looks good.

04:22:01.800 Last Sunday.

04:22:02.560 She's eating a, a, a, a burrito wrap.

04:22:06.020 Today?

04:22:06.220 She lied to you.

04:22:07.420 She's, she's walking around with her dog.

04:22:10.380 Just walking around her, maybe that's from a different day.

04:22:13.340 I don't know.

04:22:13.920 Her loss.

04:22:14.920 I don't know.

04:22:15.440 Maybe she's lying.

04:22:16.320 Maybe she's lying.

04:22:17.420 But she looks good.

04:22:18.620 She looks like she's doing okay.

04:22:20.140 Actually, should I just-

04:22:21.040 Good.

04:22:21.360 I hope she is.

04:22:23.320 Not the IG.

04:22:24.140 I don't know.

04:22:24.620 I hope she's good.

04:22:25.360 Who knows, though?

04:22:26.400 Who knows?

04:22:26.960 Sometimes with the, I don't know.

04:22:28.480 Just thought it was related to your thing here.

04:22:31.240 A message from the government of Canada.

04:22:33.480 Usually girls are offended.

04:22:33.920 Pastey George donated $200.04.

04:22:37.720 When women say stuff like we should base the relationship on our feelings, she wants the

04:22:43.080 relationship to be focused solely on her wants and needs.

04:22:47.360 Traditional non-feministic women do not think that.

04:22:52.160 What should the relationship be based on?

04:22:54.640 I never even thought of it like that.

04:22:58.200 Okay.

04:22:59.280 All right.

04:23:00.200 Moving on here in the notes, we have, let's see here.

04:23:05.020 Hold on.

04:23:07.120 Nope.

04:23:07.620 No faith.

04:23:09.520 Yeah.

04:23:09.700 So, you're eliminating her from ever coming?

04:23:14.260 Is that how it goes?

04:23:15.740 Honestly, she'd have to pay like a $300 deposit if she wanted to.

04:23:19.460 Wow.

04:23:19.980 Sorry, not even the deposit rebooking fee.

04:23:21.920 This is the third time she no-show, well, flaked, no-show, whatever.

04:23:26.000 So, she'd have to pony up.

04:23:31.080 Normally, after one flake.

04:23:33.180 Like, no, yeah, I mean, that's how it typically is.

04:23:36.560 But we gave her a few passes already, so.

04:23:39.560 That's kind of, yeah.

04:23:40.300 Okay.

04:23:41.180 Hannah.

04:23:41.660 No, it is.

04:23:42.220 It is.

04:23:43.200 You're a non-denominational Christian.

04:23:45.540 You said you had a man try to scare you by talking about serial killers and punching

04:23:49.680 at your face.

04:23:50.820 Yeah.

04:23:51.420 Inches away.

04:23:52.360 Yeah.

04:23:52.860 But not hitting you.

04:23:53.680 I stopped using dating apps because of it.

04:23:57.460 I just, yeah, he tried to scare me.

04:24:01.320 Yeah, that's scary.

04:24:02.120 I didn't give him the satisfaction.

04:24:03.560 I just went in stone-faced, and he was, you know, punching inches from my face, and I just.

04:24:09.120 Like multiple punches?

04:24:10.300 Yeah.

04:24:10.660 Like trying to get a reaction.

04:24:13.840 And, yeah, that's a good example of, you know, evil masculinity out there.

04:24:18.400 But I think most men in general have a positive view towards women and want to protect them.

04:24:24.920 Okay.

04:24:25.480 Yeah.

04:24:26.180 Yeah.

04:24:26.720 That was just a.

04:24:27.340 Gotta be careful on the dating apps.

04:24:28.140 Just a bad experience.

04:24:29.020 Gotta be careful.

04:24:29.540 Why was he trying to do that?

04:24:31.320 He was talking about boxing or something and was just.

04:24:34.840 Was he drunk?

04:24:35.440 Not that that excuses him.

04:24:36.660 I don't think so.

04:24:37.220 I think he was just crazy.

04:24:39.100 So, like, you met up with him.

04:24:40.600 Like, show us how close to your face he was.

04:24:42.500 It was an inch, I'd say.

04:24:45.420 That's a yikes.

04:24:46.560 Like, how does this even, like, start?

04:24:47.740 What was he trying to demonstrate?

04:24:49.420 He, I think he was genuinely trying to scare me.

04:24:52.460 His strength.

04:24:52.680 I think it was a power thing.

04:24:54.220 So cringe.

04:24:54.940 But, like, were you guys just, like, on a date, and then all of a sudden he starts being,

04:24:58.020 like, trying to punch you and talking about serial killers?

04:25:01.400 Yeah.

04:25:01.880 It was, started off talking about, you know, death metal, serial killers.

04:25:07.140 He started saying, like, what if I was?

04:25:09.840 And, yeah, it was a crazy experience.

04:25:12.180 But it just seemed to me, like, what I read from it was he was trying to get a response,

04:25:18.400 a reaction out of me.

04:25:20.160 And I just didn't, didn't give it to him.

04:25:23.340 And then ended there.

04:25:25.120 Yeah.

04:25:25.460 We were in a public place.

04:25:26.780 There were people around.

04:25:28.160 What the fuck?

04:25:29.280 Sorry.

04:25:30.800 That was my bad.

04:25:31.680 That was on me that time.

04:25:36.840 What the fuck was that shit?

04:25:40.480 Grid one redeemed.

04:25:43.760 Redemption arc there.

04:25:46.320 I just felt he treated me as not a person.

04:25:50.940 Like, it was a date so that he could get something out of it.

04:25:54.700 And I think people treat relationships as transactional now rather than, you know.

04:25:59.700 What was he trying to get out of it?

04:26:00.660 Like a fucking sparring match or some shit?

04:26:04.220 I don't know.

04:26:04.900 I don't know.

04:26:05.540 He's trying to spar with you?

04:26:06.300 Yeah, maybe.

04:26:06.860 That's weird.

04:26:07.720 That shit's weird, man.

04:26:08.660 Someone he could steamroll, maybe.

04:26:10.360 I don't know.

04:26:10.840 Damn.

04:26:11.500 Okay.

04:26:11.900 He's just an extremely weak person.

04:26:13.680 You also said women are to blame for hookup culture.

04:26:17.480 Yeah.

04:26:17.700 That's a hot take.

04:26:18.520 You say it's largely women's fault.

04:26:20.740 Women control, you say this, women control access to sex.

04:26:24.240 And when it's given away so easily, it conditions men to expect it.

04:26:27.560 Yeah.

04:26:27.880 And so the valuing it.

04:26:28.840 You want to elaborate a little bit there?

04:26:31.120 Yeah.

04:26:31.740 I think when women just allow men to access to their bodies with nothing in return, no commitment,

04:26:38.280 nothing, it sort of ruins dating for the rest of us that have high standards and are waiting

04:26:43.600 for people that will treat us with respect and value us for more than just our bodies.

04:26:49.200 I think it creates more men that seek out women's bodies instead of a relationship.

04:26:57.420 Okay.

04:26:58.700 Gotcha.

04:26:59.480 Anybody on the panelist?

04:27:01.560 I agree.

04:27:02.140 I think that women, they think like...

04:27:03.960 Maybe let's hear from disagrees first.

04:27:05.680 Okay.

04:27:09.040 Agreed.

04:27:09.580 Do you agree?

04:27:10.580 Are women to blame?

04:27:12.620 That's her position for hookup culture.

04:27:14.500 No, I feel like it goes both ways, I feel like.

04:27:16.780 I mean, I agree with what you say, but also I feel like it's also...

04:27:20.880 You could also say that about like sex work and like OnlyFans and stuff like that.

04:27:24.580 I feel like hookup culture itself, I feel like it goes both ways.

04:27:28.440 Like I know a lot of men who treat women really disrespectfully and like they're the ones who

04:27:33.980 always, we're getting with multiple women and I don't know, I just...

04:27:37.640 I think the punishment for that would be you never have a fulfilling relationship with

04:27:42.620 a woman though.

04:27:43.380 I think if men act like that towards women, they should be punished for their actions and

04:27:48.560 I think when men act like that, yeah, that's their reward.

04:27:53.840 Can I ask you something?

04:27:55.200 Yeah.

04:27:55.540 Is that a Coke spoon on your neck?

04:27:57.560 No, it's a tennis racket.

04:27:59.860 Whoa!

04:28:01.100 I thought it was like one of those little spoons.

04:28:03.720 I'm sorry, I was just staring at the hand.

04:28:06.100 What the fuck?

04:28:06.740 Thank you though.

04:28:07.760 No, I've never done drugs.

04:28:09.880 Sorry.

04:28:10.760 I have bad vision.

04:28:11.840 I'm blind in one eye.

04:28:12.600 That's alright.

04:28:13.060 Yeah, it looks like a racquetball.

04:28:14.720 It has, yeah, it's a tennis racket with a pearl.

04:28:18.420 A Coke?

04:28:19.160 Yeah, like the little spoons.

04:28:20.900 How do you know about that?

04:28:21.340 I don't know what that is.

04:28:22.500 How would you know about that, Felicity?

04:28:23.960 Because you see them on the internet.

04:28:25.640 Oh, yeah, in Minecraft?

04:28:28.560 What?

04:28:28.960 Yeah, in Minecraft.

04:28:29.980 What the fuck?

04:28:31.060 Yeah.

04:28:32.640 I think you can't change men's nature though.

04:28:35.880 Chill out, Brian.

04:28:36.300 Chill out.

04:28:36.880 Yeah, that's all I was making my point with that statement.

04:28:41.260 I think a lot of women tend to think like if I have sex with him, he'll want to date me.

04:28:44.800 Yeah, I agree.

04:28:45.880 And it's not true.

04:28:47.320 I think you can't change a man's nature.

04:28:49.600 Like if you offer him sex, he's going to say yes.

04:28:52.160 He's going to take it.

04:28:53.100 You're giving it to him for free.

04:28:54.300 You know, he doesn't do any work.

04:28:57.720 Why would he want a relationship with a woman who's going to give that out to anyone?

04:29:02.560 I think men always naturally have the expectation of getting sex in return for something.

04:29:10.600 And I think you're completely right in the fact that it's up to us to decide whether to allow access or limit that.

04:29:19.920 So I agree with you there.

04:29:21.360 So did she leave or what's going on?

04:29:27.900 Hold on.

04:29:28.740 I don't know.

04:29:29.220 I'm just confused.

04:29:31.840 What's the sitch?

04:29:33.020 What's the situation, Mary?

04:29:35.920 Hello?

04:29:36.700 Is Mary there?

04:29:37.520 Yeah.

04:29:38.360 What's the sitch?

04:29:39.200 Just talk to Mary.

04:29:41.100 Okay.

04:29:42.500 No, just hang tight, Nick.

04:29:43.660 Well, I'm going to continue on with the notes.

04:29:47.900 I'm not going to linger on that.

04:29:49.740 Hold on.

04:29:50.320 I need to change one thing here.

04:29:53.720 Let's see.

04:29:56.260 No, I think we're pretty much done with your notes, Hannah.

04:29:59.620 Yeah, that's it.

04:30:00.720 Going to, forgive me if it's Mahi?

04:30:04.000 Yeah.

04:30:04.460 Mahi.

04:30:04.760 You said that couples in college shouldn't restrict each other.

04:30:10.420 Your partner is not your parent, should not tell you what you can and can't do.

04:30:14.380 If you want the best for your partner, you shouldn't tell them they can't go out.

04:30:17.520 So, like, going out to parties, I'm imagining.

04:30:19.760 Maybe also, like, what to wear, that sort of thing?

04:30:22.560 No, just, like, parties.

04:30:24.560 Oh, no, just, like, parties.

04:30:25.640 Just parties.

04:30:26.200 Okay.

04:30:26.900 So you're fine with a guy saying, boyfriend saying, don't wear that?

04:30:31.900 No.

04:30:32.920 Like, he shouldn't be able to say that.

04:30:34.000 Oh, he shouldn't say that.

04:30:34.680 No, he shouldn't say that.

04:30:36.360 You say, because you should want them to have as much fun as they can.

04:30:40.520 As long as they're respectful, they should be allowed to do whatever they want.

04:30:44.860 Okay.

04:30:46.000 Anybody here just agree with her position?

04:30:49.900 Who agrees?

04:30:52.300 Agree, agree, agree.

04:30:53.840 I agree.

04:30:54.180 Yes, yes.

04:30:54.960 I think you should be able to wear what you want, but I also think men can have their own standards.

04:31:01.140 Okay.

04:31:01.540 And, you know, if they don't want a girl who's going out and partying, they should not be with that woman.

04:31:06.980 I agree.

04:31:07.460 Whereas other men do appreciate that and want that.

04:31:12.060 Okay.

04:31:12.560 Maybe less, but...

04:31:14.540 Okay.

04:31:14.980 I think you should be able to wear whatever it is you want and have the autonomy to do that.

04:31:19.840 However, I do think that if you're in a respectful partnership and your significant other does have an issue with something you're wearing, they should be able to freely vocalize that and then at least have some kind of a maybe conversation or something.

04:31:32.300 Uh, okay.

04:31:40.280 Because, I mean, with the going out thing, right?

04:31:43.220 Like, I think it's reasonable that if you meet somebody and they're single, you perhaps expect them to be acting in a way that's commensurate with being single.

04:31:54.740 But once you're in a relationship, I think the thing, like, for example, when it depends how we approach the logic here.

04:32:04.600 So if the logic is, well, things that are acceptable when you're single, can they ever become unacceptable when you're in a relationship?

04:32:11.340 I think we would agree, like, for example, you can technically sleep with whoever you want when you're single.

04:32:17.100 But when you're in a relationship, that would be cheating.

04:32:20.080 In this case, it's like, what is the sort of acceptable behavior that you can and can't do once you're in a relationship?

04:32:27.700 And so, I guess my question is, maybe this might help paint a picture or articulate the male position.

04:32:36.940 Would you be okay with your boyfriend going to a strip club?

04:32:39.980 No.

04:32:40.500 Why not?

04:32:40.980 That's really controlling and insecure of you.

04:32:44.480 I mean, I would never go to any type of strip club, like, filled with all men.

04:32:48.920 All I'm talking about was more just, like, the college aspect of it.

04:32:52.180 Like, going to frat parties and going to house parties.

04:32:54.820 Especially, like, I came, this is, UCSB is known as a party school.

04:32:58.820 Yeah, it's a party school.

04:32:59.540 But my boyfriend has no problem with it because he does the same.

04:33:02.640 He goes to frat parties.

04:33:03.560 He goes to house parties.

04:33:05.020 All I'm saying is I think people do it in a way, like, they're trying to prevent their partner from cheating.

04:33:09.580 Like, they think, I'm doing this.

04:33:11.520 So, I think it's more they're trying to prevent cheating, even though I don't, if someone's going to cheat, they're just going to do it.

04:33:17.500 I feel like putting these, like, preventative measures in place doesn't give any, like, use.

04:33:23.860 And also, like you were saying, like, if you don't want someone who's partying, like, you shouldn't be with someone like that.

04:33:29.380 But I have a lot of friends who now are struggling because their boyfriends knew they partied in high school and they knew they went out.

04:33:35.660 But now, all of a sudden, it's a problem that they're in college, even though they knew that's how they always were.

04:33:41.760 I think if you're scared of your partner cheating, you shouldn't be with them.

04:33:45.440 Yeah, that too.

04:33:46.980 So, then what's the objection to the strip club?

04:33:50.720 I just think it's just, like, half naked woman.

04:33:54.340 I don't know.

04:33:54.700 I just would feel uncomfortable with it.

04:33:56.120 That's it.

04:33:56.580 I mean, but in terms of, like, the cheating component of it?

04:34:01.400 Well, a strip club is mainly just for, like, sex and not having, obviously.

04:34:07.760 But, like, it's very...

04:34:09.980 The sexual appeal?

04:34:11.020 Yes.

04:34:11.960 Like, what's the reason he's going there?

04:34:13.360 Like, I don't, like, most men...

04:34:14.680 He's got a bunch of frat boyfriends?

04:34:16.940 I mean, I wouldn't compare going to a strip club, like, compared to a frat.

04:34:21.580 Like, I don't think it's at all, like, measurable.

04:34:23.680 Like, a lot of people have broken up with their boyfriends just for going to strip clubs.

04:34:27.420 Like, even if they didn't engage in anything, it's just kind of, like, why are you there?

04:34:30.980 Well, I mean, my position on this would be, I think it's far more likely that somebody cheats at a bar or club versus cheats at a strip club.

04:34:39.080 Because the difference is, when you go to a bar or club, there's people who will fuck you there.

04:34:45.340 You go to a strip club, strippers...

04:34:49.360 I mean, but strippers will do it for a price, right?

04:34:52.420 Strippers do not want to fuck...

04:34:54.160 Well, sure, then we're getting into prostitution.

04:34:55.920 I mean, even if they're not...

04:34:56.720 But most strippers aren't prostitutes.

04:34:58.740 I mean, but you go to a strip club, trust me, the strippers definitely don't like the male clientele.

04:35:06.260 They think they're pathetic.

04:35:07.940 They would never even...

04:35:09.240 They think the male patrons are pathetic.

04:35:12.460 They think they're lame, whatever.

04:35:16.060 They're tricks.

04:35:16.700 They're marks.

04:35:17.240 It's just money.

04:35:18.460 They'll give the men attention, but it's just...

04:35:21.460 They're trying to get money out of these guys.

04:35:24.400 They're not...

04:35:25.120 Like, there's a better chance...

04:35:27.700 If I step into a club, there's a better chance of getting laid in the club than getting laid at the strip club.

04:35:34.200 Hmm.

04:35:34.840 Well, why do a lot of young guys go to, like, house parties because they want to get some...

04:35:42.240 Uh, yeah.

04:35:43.380 I don't know.

04:35:44.120 I wouldn't date someone to parties a lot.

04:35:46.480 You can party sometimes, but I don't like that.

04:35:48.560 Oh.

04:35:50.460 So, she's not coming...

04:35:51.780 Like, she's...

04:35:52.620 I'm assuming when you say she's not coming back on the show...

04:35:55.580 I'll come back to this topic really quick, but I just have to address this.

04:35:58.740 Like, she's not coming back to the table.

04:36:00.920 Right.

04:36:01.800 Is she still in the building?

04:36:03.020 Yes.

04:36:03.420 Okay.

04:36:05.040 Uh, Nick...

04:36:06.280 Camera up.

04:36:08.560 One sec, guys.

04:36:10.360 Uh, is she...

04:36:11.480 Can she hear me?

04:36:14.780 Yeah, I mean...

04:36:15.980 Well...

04:36:16.700 All right, guys.

04:36:18.440 I mean, it's probably not going to be a rage quit on camera, but I'll film it, put it on the Discord, I guess.

04:36:23.920 But, um...

04:36:25.700 You got your camera, Nick?

04:36:27.300 Sorry, guys.

04:36:27.720 I have to step away from the table.

04:36:28.780 Felicity, if you want to continue the conversation momentarily.

04:36:31.960 Uh, so...

04:36:33.160 Yeah, that's a delayed rage quit, but, um...

04:36:38.460 Yeah, okay.

04:36:39.440 Be right back.

04:36:39.900 Go ahead, Felicity.

04:36:41.780 Um, I honestly think that, like, girls, we don't always go out for, like, oh, I want

04:36:49.340 to get some...

04:36:51.000 I want to have sex, you know?

04:36:52.720 Whereas guys, I think that's more of their goal when they go out.

04:36:55.640 Like, girls...

04:36:56.480 You're right.

04:36:57.200 We kind of were like, oh, I want to go out with my girls.

04:36:59.400 You're totally right.

04:36:59.520 But, like, when you walk up to, like, a group of guys that's out, especially here...

04:37:04.240 Yeah.

04:37:04.620 Um, very lustful.

04:37:06.440 I think it's fine to go out every once in a while, but, like, I don't know.

04:37:12.260 Just the values that someone that parties a lot has, it doesn't align with mine.

04:37:16.300 Like, not someone that I would date.

04:37:18.560 Partying once in a while is fine, but if they're, like, doing it every weekend, not my thing.

04:37:24.560 Um, what do you guys think?

04:37:27.600 I think if somebody is out partying on a consistent basis, it clearly means that there's a disconnect

04:37:36.080 going on in the relationship that should be further looked into, I would say.

04:37:40.920 I mean, to be fair, like, college age, they, like...

04:37:43.440 I mean, like, all the time.

04:37:45.520 Yeah, I mean, when you're young, it's different.

04:37:47.120 But, like, as you get older and you mature and you grow, that sort of becomes less of a priority.

04:37:52.300 Because, like, we talked about, it's typically, like, you know, family.

04:37:55.580 It's typically, like, that type of thing.

04:37:57.060 Not for everybody, but for majority, you know?

04:37:59.560 So, um, if that is to occur, like, on a very consistent basis, then there's probably some

04:38:05.200 underlying issues, I would say.

04:38:07.100 I think it's about balance.

04:38:09.180 I agree.

04:38:09.760 Like, I like to go out sometimes.

04:38:11.080 Yeah, like, if somebody has the freedom to go out and do whatever you want and you have

04:38:16.120 that trust with your partner, go for it.

04:38:18.640 No, totally.

04:38:19.180 I agree.

04:38:19.680 Yeah.

04:38:19.860 And also, like, UCSB, like, I honestly, I like going out every weekend.

04:38:23.300 Like, I have fun.

04:38:24.220 And especially, like, it's all me and my roommates.

04:38:26.740 Like, I don't have my boyfriend here.

04:38:28.160 And he's probably, like, he's not going to be here the whole year.

04:38:30.500 So, it's just me and my girlfriends.

04:38:32.800 And a lot of them are single and we like going out.

04:38:34.500 Especially, I'm a freshman.

04:38:35.640 Like, we, I worked a lot in high school and I came to a good college.

04:38:39.460 And then, but also, UCSB is known as a work hard, play hard school.

04:38:43.060 Like, all the parties here end at 12.

04:38:44.960 And then...

04:38:45.260 And you're young.

04:38:46.080 Yeah.

04:38:46.240 So, go live your life.

04:38:46.840 Well, can I ask you, like, how is your relationship now?

04:38:50.220 Like, you started off being, like, normal distance and now you're long distance.

04:38:54.320 Like, has that changed anything in the relationship?

04:38:56.820 Like, has it made anything harder?

04:38:58.180 Or, like, what is the dynamic of that?

04:39:00.360 Obviously, it's made stuff harder.

04:39:01.760 Like, we, we lived, like, five minutes away from each other.

04:39:04.180 We went to the same school and that was how it was for two years.

04:39:06.560 And the summer, right before we left, we were together all the time because we have

04:39:10.900 also a lot of the same friends.

04:39:12.120 But it has been hard, but I wouldn't say it's been super difficult.

04:39:16.180 Like, we call when we can.

04:39:18.460 He's really smart.

04:39:19.540 So, he honestly helps me with a lot of my chem stuff right now.

04:39:21.840 So, we've been calling a lot because of that.

04:39:24.360 But I feel like I honestly would not recommend this, though.

04:39:27.660 Like, I'm doing it just because I can see myself marrying him.

04:39:30.300 I don't think for sure, like, I'll be marrying him.

04:39:32.640 Like, obviously, there might be things that come up.

04:39:34.380 But I wouldn't, I wouldn't be putting this effort in for anyone.

04:39:37.820 Like, if I couldn't see myself marrying him, I wouldn't have done it.

04:39:40.840 I would have just ended it and then done whatever I wanted here.

04:39:43.460 You think he's the one?

04:39:44.620 Yeah.

04:39:45.040 Okay, that's cute.

04:39:46.220 Yeah, I mean, usually, honestly, I hear really bad things about relationships that end up

04:39:50.120 being long distance in college.

04:39:51.580 But I'm happy for you that, like...

04:39:53.420 I'm also in a long distance relationship.

04:39:55.300 Oh, really?

04:39:55.900 How's that?

04:39:56.300 And I honestly feel like it's going to improve our relationship, like, in the long term.

04:40:01.440 Really?

04:40:01.800 Yeah, because now that we're apart, we have more time with our friends and doing things

04:40:08.280 that are actually really important to us versus, like, seeing each other every day.

04:40:12.380 Because when you're near each other, that's, like, what you want to do.

04:40:14.540 You want to see each other and hang out.

04:40:16.180 So I feel like it's kind of good for us to have our independent lives a little bit more

04:40:21.460 and then also reconnect, like, at the end of the day.

04:40:23.600 Like, distance makes the heart grow fonder.

04:40:25.840 Got it.

04:40:26.200 And then, like, when I went back home and we met, it was so nice.

04:40:31.200 It was, like, it was amazing being able to see them in person and, like, you know, so...

04:40:38.580 How long have you guys been dating?

04:40:40.300 Not that long.

04:40:41.520 It's only been six months, but...

04:40:43.440 Oh, okay.

04:40:44.100 Yeah.

04:40:44.660 So cute and fresh.

04:40:45.920 Honestly, I agree with you, though.

04:40:46.960 Like, I don't think...

04:40:47.980 Obviously, like, it's halfway across the country.

04:40:49.640 I would have preferred if it was closer.

04:40:50.900 But I don't know if I would have wanted to go to the same school with my boyfriend either.

04:40:54.900 Even if we had the chance to, I feel like it's just you're too close together.

04:40:58.520 Like, you need to grow.

04:40:59.420 And that's why also a lot of, like, high school-college relationships don't work out.

04:41:03.460 Because you're not letting your partner grow and you're always, like, clinging to each other.

04:41:07.320 Like, you need to have independence.

04:41:09.360 Right.

04:41:09.500 And, obviously, it would have been nice if we're closer.

04:41:12.200 But, I mean, that's what we're getting.

04:41:13.420 And it's also been, I guess, nice getting used to, like, a different life.

04:41:17.780 But then also knowing when I go back home, I have him.

04:41:20.100 Yeah.

04:41:21.180 And the next time you're going to see him is Thanksgiving.

04:41:23.680 So when was the last time you saw him?

04:41:26.140 Like, mid-September.

04:41:30.000 Wow.

04:41:31.260 You're, like, a trooper.

04:41:32.700 I could not do that.

04:41:34.560 So you're comfortable?

04:41:35.240 I could never.

04:41:35.760 Wait, so you are or you're not comfortable with him going out and partying?

04:41:40.340 No, I'm completely comfortable.

04:41:42.020 Honestly.

04:41:42.460 I think, like, I want him to have fun, honestly.

04:41:44.800 Like, he's also really not the type of person, to be honest.

04:41:47.720 Like, he'll go out maybe, maybe, honestly, like, no, maybe every, not every.

04:41:52.540 He doesn't go out every weekend like I do.

04:41:53.860 He goes out maybe, like, every two weeks.

04:41:55.860 But, honestly, I told him to join a frat.

04:41:57.460 I told him, you should be going out every weekend.

04:41:59.840 Sometimes he'll be texting me, like, oh, like, I'm just going to stay.

04:42:02.020 And I'm, like, what are you doing?

04:42:02.980 Like, you should be going out.

04:42:04.960 And I don't know.

04:42:05.640 I think he just should have fun.

04:42:07.220 Like, all of high school, he worked so hard.

04:42:08.740 He didn't really go to a lot of parties.

04:42:10.580 When we started dating, I actually started taking him with me to a lot of the parties.

04:42:14.400 I think it's just, like, fun.

04:42:15.440 Like, I feel like you should have a balance of life.

04:42:17.040 And he wants to go to med school.

04:42:18.960 And I know in med school, he's not going to go to parties.

04:42:21.340 He's not going to go clubbing and, like, stuff like that.

04:42:23.560 Like, in college, you should enjoy it.

04:42:25.700 That's cute.

04:42:27.080 Wait, so did he end up joining that frat?

04:42:28.700 No, he didn't.

04:42:29.320 Oh, okay.

04:42:30.140 He really didn't want to join a frat.

04:42:32.120 Honestly, I would not encourage.

04:42:34.360 And this is just me.

04:42:35.500 Like, this is not.

04:42:36.280 I would not encourage my boyfriend to join a frat.

04:42:39.120 Because I don't trust frat guys.

04:42:41.340 No.

04:42:41.720 Not at all.

04:42:42.040 Like, the stuff that goes on in those houses.

04:42:44.980 Hmm.

04:42:45.920 The more of them there are, the less brain cells, you know?

04:42:49.480 That's why he didn't want to join.

04:42:50.540 Why did you want him to join?

04:42:52.040 And why did you want him to go out?

04:42:53.420 I think because for a guy to go out, it's so hard.

04:42:55.620 Like, in welcome week, for a lot of colleges, like, they can go to every party.

04:42:59.360 But now, like, he has a hard time getting into a lot of parties.

04:43:02.660 Because, like, either he has to pay, like, $20.

04:43:05.120 Or they just don't let him.

04:43:06.300 They always let girls in.

04:43:07.420 Because, I mean, obviously.

04:43:08.860 I just thought it would be nice for him to join a frat.

04:43:11.460 Because, like, he could easily, like, party, like, a lot more.

04:43:15.120 But also, like, he's in a lot of, like, really hard classes.

04:43:18.740 And that's how it was in high school.

04:43:20.260 But he had, like, his sport.

04:43:22.060 He had, like, track to meet other guys who are more similar to him.

04:43:25.160 So, obviously, in a frat, I didn't want, like, he shouldn't have been, like, a top frat.

04:43:28.460 Because they're usually not really the smartest guys.

04:43:30.760 But if he was, like, a mid-tier, kind of, he would have probably found people similar to him

04:43:34.400 that would be different in his classes.

04:43:36.200 So, I thought, like, it would have been nice for him.

04:43:38.040 It would be more similar to in high school for how it was.

04:43:40.980 Why not a hobby, though, instead of a frat?

04:43:43.260 I mean, he did join, like, a track club.

04:43:46.260 But, honestly, a lot of it was just because it's easier for him to go out.

04:43:48.900 Like, now it's kind of, like, he's struggling.

04:43:50.980 And it's, like, no fun, honestly.

04:43:52.340 Like, I know in college, like, if it was hard for me to go to parties, like, what do you really do?

04:43:56.960 Nick, can you open the door for me?

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04:45:00.680 Okay, so finishing off this, I did want to come back to this conversation about men should

04:45:06.800 not be controlling in this way.

04:45:08.180 They should, you know, you're saying men should not, you know, try to control their girlfriend.

04:45:15.120 Like, just let her go to bars and clubs and parties, et cetera.

04:45:19.340 I would, yeah.

04:45:19.820 I say if they're respectful, then, of course.

04:45:22.500 Like, I would, I know for me, and I know a lot of the people around me, like, they would

04:45:26.740 be loyal.

04:45:27.300 Like, they like to go out.

04:45:28.120 They like to party.

04:45:28.820 But I would, they would never cheat.

04:45:30.680 But obviously, that's not fully true.

04:45:33.200 Like, sometimes women go out and they do cheat.

04:45:35.320 But at least for me, I know I won't cheat.

04:45:37.740 So I don't really want, like, any limitations preventing me, like, thinking, like, oh, like,

04:45:42.020 this is going to help her, like, not cheat.

04:45:44.320 Like, this is going to help her not cheat.

04:45:45.460 But I don't really need any of that.

04:45:47.220 Like, I know how to be respectful and still do what I want to do.

04:45:50.900 If your boyfriend, like, let's say you texted your boyfriend and you go out next weekend.

04:45:56.900 And you, here's my outfit, babe.

04:45:58.400 And he was like, hey, you know what?

04:46:01.460 You're fine to go out and party.

04:46:02.820 But, like, can you wear something less revealing?

04:46:04.760 Would that become an issue in your relationship?

04:46:07.220 Or would you, I guess, at the least have a conversation about it?

04:46:11.800 I mean, I feel like I would never really wear anything, like, too revealing.

04:46:17.380 Like, he does know, like, I do like to dress.

04:46:19.940 Like, I guess I'm, like.

04:46:21.120 But if you did, if you wanted to.

04:46:22.600 Maybe Halloween's coming up.

04:46:24.280 People tend to dress a little.

04:46:25.320 I mean, Halloween's coming up, yeah.

04:46:25.880 But, like, I mean, it's literally the next weekend for us, for UCSB.

04:46:29.000 Yeah.

04:46:29.240 It's our whole weekend.

04:46:30.080 So I will be going out a lot more.

04:46:32.080 But.

04:46:32.120 I don't know.

04:46:32.420 What are you, like, a sexy cat or something?

04:46:35.460 I'm Piglet from Winnie the Poe.

04:46:37.180 Sexy Piglet.

04:46:39.100 Thank you.

04:46:39.760 And.

04:46:40.820 I mean, we have a few, but that's, like, one of them.

04:46:43.040 But, yeah.

04:46:44.000 You have a couple different outfits.

04:46:45.480 Yeah.

04:46:45.640 But, okay.

04:46:46.220 How about you have the conversation, and he's like, look, babe, I'd feel way more comfortable

04:46:51.880 if you wore, you know.

04:46:53.600 He doesn't want you in a burqa, but he's like, hey, can you, you know, put on something

04:46:57.520 less revealing, I guess.

04:46:59.400 Like, what am I wearing?

04:47:00.160 That's.

04:47:01.040 If I found it reasonable, maybe.

04:47:02.580 I don't know.

04:47:02.720 Well, like, you've been out to parties, right?

04:47:04.240 Yeah.

04:47:04.420 Because girls were walking around in lingerie.

04:47:06.620 Mm-hmm.

04:47:07.540 Yeah.

04:47:08.160 Basically.

04:47:10.520 He was like, you know what?

04:47:11.560 Maybe can you put a jacket on or, you know, something like that?

04:47:14.060 I mean, yeah, sure, I guess.

04:47:14.940 You do it?

04:47:15.500 Yeah.

04:47:15.800 I mean, if it really is, like, reasonable, then sure.

04:47:20.520 Would you feel the type of way about it, though?

04:47:22.660 I mean, I really don't think I would ever dress a certain way where, because I feel like

04:47:27.620 I never, there's a limit, and I would never exceed a limit.

04:47:30.580 Like, even I don't want people looking at me in a weird way.

04:47:32.700 Like, I do it where I feel, like, good about myself, but also, like, I don't want any unwanted

04:47:37.280 attention.

04:47:38.180 Mm-hmm.

04:47:38.420 So.

04:47:39.460 What do you think about, would you date a guy who plays video games?

04:47:45.140 Yeah, I did.

04:47:45.860 Do you think it's okay for a girlfriend to tell her boyfriend to not play video games

04:47:51.020 or play less video games?

04:47:52.480 Like, you think that's reasonable?

04:47:54.340 I mean, if he was only ever playing video games and nothing else, then.

04:47:58.360 Well, if it was his hobby, then no.

04:47:59.540 It wasn't, like, catastrophic to the relationship, but there was times he wanted to play video games

04:48:03.340 that she wanted to spend with him.

04:48:06.440 Mm-hmm.

04:48:06.960 So he gave her some attention, but.

04:48:10.560 It would be a little weird.

04:48:11.640 I feel like I could understand, like, why the woman would want that, because she feels,

04:48:14.700 like, kind of ignored.

04:48:15.700 Mm-hmm.

04:48:16.140 But I feel like if he does it in moderation, if that's his hobby, like, you can't, you

04:48:19.460 shouldn't be able, you shouldn't really stop him.

04:48:20.900 Okay.

04:48:20.920 Because I think a lot of women have a strong preference to date men who don't play video

04:48:26.760 games or just really in moderation.

04:48:30.420 Mm-hmm.

04:48:30.780 I guess this is a bit gendered, though.

04:48:33.320 It's a bit of a gendered issue as it relates, not the video games, but as it relates to,

04:48:36.800 like, going out, partying, and why men, perhaps more so than women, have a more vested interest

04:48:43.440 in not wanting their girlfriend to party, even if that's how they even met.

04:48:48.040 I think things can change once you're in a relationship.

04:48:51.220 It's like, okay, well, you're, like, the guy could go in thinking, well, she's single,

04:48:55.340 she's going out, whatever.

04:48:56.300 Now that I'm in a relationship with her, I kind of, like, don't want her going out

04:49:01.400 because, and, well, there's a few reasons, but because the experience that men and women

04:49:08.240 have when they go out is really differently.

04:49:10.060 Like, if I go out to a bar or club and just mind my business the entire night, no girl's

04:49:16.040 talking to me.

04:49:16.660 I could go out 10 nights, 20 nights, 30 nights.

04:49:21.340 I just have my, my beer, whatever, just at the bar, not, not scowling, but just, you

04:49:27.640 know, open body language, whatever.

04:49:30.480 No girls are coming to talk to me.

04:49:32.300 No girls.

04:49:33.800 Maybe if you're a really good looking guy, maybe occasionally, like, a girl might come

04:49:37.220 up to you.

04:49:37.580 Well, if you're really good looking, that's different.

04:49:42.460 But you put any girl in a bar or club, average looking, good looking, really good looking,

04:49:46.760 she's getting approached.

04:49:48.980 She's getting hit on.

04:49:51.100 This doesn't mean she's going to cheat, but I do think it's a bit of a different dynamic

04:49:54.920 that, and we do have to factor in, like, okay, the difference is here.

04:49:58.440 So I think the big thing is, I guess I would paint it like this.

04:50:02.880 Would you be okay with, like, your long-term boyfriend going to, I know you say he goes

04:50:09.840 to frat parties, right?

04:50:11.420 But, like, we understand the dynamics in these parties.

04:50:14.420 Not to say that women never, like, will flirt, never initiate, but, like, usually the guy

04:50:19.800 has to make the move, and, like...

04:50:21.660 He has been hit on, actually.

04:50:23.140 Sure.

04:50:23.660 I don't deny that it happens.

04:50:25.560 No, but, like, I mean, and it doesn't...

04:50:27.500 But if a guy gets hit on once a night, the woman gets hit on ten times a night.

04:50:33.720 I mean, you just have to, like, think about it, though.

04:50:35.340 There's, like, especially here, there's so many beautiful women that go here, and all

04:50:40.380 of, like, everyone...

04:50:41.460 I don't know, like, it's just, I think people overestimate how much their girlfriend will

04:50:45.780 get hit on, because in reality, you're surrounded by a beautiful woman.

04:50:48.860 Like, you have to be able to show maybe just a little interest.

04:50:51.340 Obviously, like, guys will come up, you shut them down, they leave you alone.

04:50:54.940 But also some guys, I feel like here, or at least what I've seen, like, they want you

04:50:59.440 to show a little interest, and then they'll go up to, they'll keep talking, whatever.

04:51:03.460 Yeah, and look, I think things have changed quite a bit, you know, with social media, dating

04:51:09.440 apps.

04:51:10.380 There's, like, before dating apps, I mean, before social media, if you wanted it, you

04:51:16.700 can slide into somebody's DMs, you can match with them on the dating app.

04:51:19.680 You had to approach somebody, whether that's at a party, whether that's after class, whether

04:51:24.400 it's on camp, whatever it is.

04:51:25.620 You had to approach somebody in person, or you can meet through friends, whatever.

04:51:28.920 But now, I think it is the case that men are going to, at least in person, are going to

04:51:35.580 shoot their shot less often, but it definitely still happens.

04:51:39.740 But I think you take, like, an average girl, average guy, you put them in a bar, nobody's,

04:51:45.120 like, the guy's just going to sit there all night twiddling his thumbs, and the girl, you

04:51:50.760 know, she might get a couple guys hitting on her.

04:51:52.700 So I think there's just this difference we have to be aware of as to why men more so than

04:51:58.340 women will, like, have an issue with it.

04:52:02.520 And I think the other thing is, is that men, like, we, I get that women will shoot their

04:52:09.280 shot, but it's so, it's really rare.

04:52:13.520 And so, I think when you're in a relationship, like, for example, do you think the way the

04:52:21.140 majority of women go about putting themselves out there, it's not to do the thing that guys

04:52:26.460 typically do, which is, okay, I'm going to hit on 10, guys might be like, all right, I'm

04:52:32.640 going to hit on 10 girls tonight.

04:52:35.160 I don't think women do that generally.

04:52:36.820 I think women will be like, I'm going to go to the place and put myself in the situation

04:52:42.980 to then be approached, right?

04:52:46.220 Not that some women shoot their shot, but, so I think men and women, men are salesmen, women

04:52:52.700 are marketers, so y'all make yourself, you put yourself in the environment that would

04:52:59.080 facilitate a man approaching you, but you won't actually generally, like, go and shoot

04:53:03.000 your shot, or you won't hit on, like, 10 dudes in the night, whereas men will, maybe you guys

04:53:08.740 have seen some dude at the party bouncing from girl to girl, shooting a shot, rejected,

04:53:12.980 rejected, rejected, okay, boom, this one.

04:53:15.920 And so, I mean, it's literally like that on, like, dating apps, for instance, like, I know

04:53:21.220 a lot of guys who will literally go on dating apps and just swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe,

04:53:26.120 like, that's, like, totally normal, whereas women, you know, it's like, we only swipe for

04:53:31.240 the guys that we're somewhat interested in, you know?

04:53:34.080 Yeah, it's a different dynamic.

04:53:36.440 Yeah.

04:53:36.580 And so, but I think, though, when you get into a relationship, obviously the guy needs to

04:53:44.100 give up his strategy, so the guy gives up his strategy of, I'm going to just flirt with

04:53:49.700 a bunch of girls, but we don't ask women to give up their strategy, which is...

04:53:56.220 Meaning?

04:53:56.780 What do you mean?

04:53:57.280 Well, the woman's strategy is put yourself in these environments to be approached.

04:54:03.400 That's the woman's strategy, but you continue doing this strategy, even in a relationship.

04:54:08.880 I know your intention...

04:54:09.600 Like, just going to parties, that's...

04:54:11.600 That's...

04:54:12.160 That is...

04:54:13.100 That's how people meet each other, right?

04:54:16.600 I don't agree.

04:54:17.700 I mean, I know a lot of girls, like, we just like to go out and we just like to dance.

04:54:21.560 Like, we don't really want male attention.

04:54:23.540 Also, I feel like it's more than just that you say, like, we market, and I agree with

04:54:26.880 that we market ourselves, but I think it's more strategic than that.

04:54:30.740 Like, we'll put ourselves in the guy's eye line.

04:54:33.040 Like, we'll be closer to them.

04:54:34.500 Like, just us going isn't, like, marketing ourselves.

04:54:37.240 I feel like a lot of times, like, I like to go out because I actually have fun.

04:54:40.520 I like to dance.

04:54:41.320 I like the music.

04:54:41.980 Well, I think it's a combo.

04:54:43.920 So I'm not going to say women only go out to get male attention, but I'm not going to

04:54:48.720 say, especially if it was a woman single, she's not only going out for fun.

04:54:55.680 Otherwise, my objection there would be...

04:54:57.920 My objection there would be, if it's really the case, these women hate it when they get

04:55:04.520 some guy comes up to them.

04:55:07.000 They fucking hate it, right?

04:55:09.620 Why aren't there, like, just female-only nightclubs and bars?

04:55:12.420 If it's just, I want to dance with my girlfriends.

04:55:14.480 There is some component of the mixed-sex dynamic.

04:55:21.160 Otherwise, women...

04:55:21.920 Or you would just go to your girlfriend's house.

04:55:24.740 But it's, like, it's not just, like, a different environment, though.

04:55:27.820 Like, it's, like, you're with a bunch of people.

04:55:29.840 You meet people.

04:55:30.620 Like, I am meeting, like, a lot of girls who are, like, a lot nicer, like, in these parties.

04:55:34.020 Yeah.

04:55:34.280 But also, like, I can't go to clubs and I can't go to bars.

04:55:37.100 Sure, yeah, you go to the parties, right?

04:55:38.200 So these house parties and these frats are, like, what we have.

04:55:41.260 Well, I guess, but, I mean, once people turn 21, you know, there are these environments.

04:55:46.460 And nothing's actually, and I would actually say overwhelmingly the people who do throw the parties,

04:55:51.120 typically the men.

04:55:52.500 But what is stopping, like, even women who are under the age of 21 from them hosting or throwing the parties

04:55:57.780 and saying, you know what, just women, only women can come in, never see it.

04:56:03.040 And then, I guess the other, is anybody here in a sorority?

04:56:07.660 I lived at a sorority house.

04:56:09.580 But not in a sorority.

04:56:10.780 You're in a sorority.

04:56:11.600 Why is it the sorority girls?

04:56:13.260 You guys have great.

04:56:14.560 The houses are really nice.

04:56:15.680 You guys have better houses than the frats.

04:56:16.960 But they're going to get trashed.

04:56:18.140 Yeah, so why don't the sorority girls, if it's just about, well, let's cultivate the environment to party,

04:56:25.380 why aren't the sorority houses just having parties at the sorority houses amongst her sisters?

04:56:32.100 They do.

04:56:32.660 We do.

04:56:34.060 Like, literally, my friend last, on Friday night, was at a little get-together with her.

04:56:39.460 Well, a kickback or a pre-game or whatever.

04:56:42.420 But also, it's like these-

04:56:43.040 Are the sorority houses throwing parties at scale that the frat parties are doing?

04:56:47.440 No, but I also really can't answer.

04:56:48.780 Like, historically, like, frats have always just thrown.

04:56:50.760 I can't name a, like, I don't know any sorority that would throw parties.

04:56:54.920 Right.

04:56:55.400 But so that would, I think that would speak to my point, which is, it would speak to my point, which is nothing is stopping sororities from just hosting girl-only ragers.

04:57:07.920 Girl-only ragers?

04:57:09.160 Let's go.

04:57:09.640 You can even have non-sorority girls come over.

04:57:13.080 But also, none of the houses are built for it, though.

04:57:15.380 Like, these frat houses are, like, are actually built for it.

04:57:18.420 I mean, you can throw a party kind of wherever, I guess.

04:57:22.560 But I don't know.

04:57:25.880 There is, I think there's a dynamic here where it's like, people do go to these parties.

04:57:29.640 Yeah, sure, to have fun.

04:57:30.920 But I think there's a component there of, am I going to meet, am I going to meet a guy?

04:57:35.860 If you're single.

04:57:37.400 If you're in a relationship, then, yeah, it's like, probably 99%.

04:57:41.740 You're just there for fun.

04:57:44.080 Yeah.

04:57:44.380 But maybe there's still, like, ooh, I get to reject a guy.

04:57:47.360 I don't know.

04:57:47.820 Whatever.

04:57:48.480 But you don't have to go to a party.

04:57:49.520 Still get the male validation, I guess.

04:57:51.100 You don't have to go to a party or a strip club or a sorority or whatever to meet somebody.

04:57:54.920 I mean, you can literally go to the grocery store.

04:57:57.280 You can literally put gas, like, in your car.

04:57:59.960 You know what I mean?

04:58:00.920 There's always a time and place to meet someone.

04:58:03.200 So that's why I don't necessarily agree.

04:58:05.280 Well, yeah, sure.

04:58:05.940 I agree.

04:58:06.720 Like, for example, a girl could get hit on at Trader Joe's.

04:58:10.520 Should the boyfriend be like, no, you're not allowed to go to Trader Joe's because you might get hit on?

04:58:14.560 No, I wouldn't say that.

04:58:16.340 But I think I would say that when it comes to parties, bars, nightclubs, these are, like, very purposeful, intentional social gatherings.

04:58:27.740 And, like, you know, I've never seen some girl getting finger banged in the middle of a Trader Joe's.

04:58:38.300 Because I was young.

04:58:40.480 I was young.

04:58:41.100 I know I'm Boomer Brian over here.

04:58:43.480 No, you're not.

04:58:43.920 But I was young once and I saw some crazy shit go down at college parties.

04:58:50.340 I'm from Santa Barbara.

04:58:51.620 Trust me.

04:58:52.360 I saw some insane shit.

04:58:54.660 People, like, fucking in the corner over there.

04:58:57.060 Fucking crazy shit.

04:58:58.240 I believe you.

04:58:58.720 Just crazy shit.

04:58:59.560 I believe you.

04:59:00.220 When I was in my 20s, I also saw some stuff.

04:59:03.340 Yeah, and these were, like, sex parties.

04:59:05.280 It was just, like, here's a keg.

04:59:06.980 It wasn't, like, some weird sex party.

04:59:08.900 No, it's, like, house parties and all kinds.

04:59:10.440 Yeah, yeah, I know.

04:59:10.840 It was some, like, house, random house party.

04:59:12.760 People, like, fucking in the fucking bushes or some shit.

04:59:15.520 I know.

04:59:15.920 People fucking on the beach.

04:59:16.980 Y'all know what I'm talking about.

04:59:17.760 I know.

04:59:18.560 Not that you do it, but you've seen.

04:59:19.960 No, I've seen it.

04:59:20.660 Yeah.

04:59:21.100 Well, let's just go down to the beach.

04:59:23.020 And, anyways, I don't know.

04:59:25.480 I'm just saying, like, it's a different vibe at Trader Joe's.

04:59:29.840 True.

04:59:29.980 And, also, there's, like, a component of, when it comes to cheating, there is a degree

04:59:35.980 of, in any scenario, of temptation.

04:59:39.020 So, like, there are circumstances that could be tempting.

04:59:41.840 And secrecy.

04:59:43.240 Yeah, so, well, I think.

04:59:44.240 But then, why would you want to be a partner who gets tempted like that?

04:59:46.580 Like, I feel like these.

04:59:47.720 Honestly, I feel like you should be.

04:59:49.020 Why would you want to put yourself in a position, though?

04:59:51.780 Wait, let it finish.

04:59:52.080 But I feel like you should want to.

04:59:54.100 You would want your partner to experience these things to see how they react.

04:59:56.920 And I feel like I would, if my, like, boyfriend is getting.

05:00:03.120 Sorry, you're good.

05:00:04.980 Like, I kind of also want to see, like, how my boyfriend responds to things.

05:00:07.900 Because then it also shows me who he is as a person.

05:00:10.000 And if I don't like what he's doing, then I don't want to, like, think.

05:00:14.140 Like, I don't want to take away all these scenarios from him.

05:00:16.340 And then later, when we're more serious, I find out that he actually, like, does, can get tempted pretty easily by other women.

05:00:23.380 So.

05:00:23.660 Well, I think people can make mistakes, regret those mistakes.

05:00:27.480 You throw alcohol into the mix.

05:00:29.240 You throw all a bunch of factors.

05:00:33.900 Question, do you have a celebrity crush?

05:00:36.420 No.

05:00:37.220 No?

05:00:37.580 Anybody have a celebrity crush?

05:00:39.480 Brad Pitt.

05:00:40.620 Question, if anybody was, like, question, would you, if Brad Pitt hit you up?

05:00:46.300 Yeah.

05:00:46.440 He's like, you know what, leave your fucking fiancé or whatever.

05:00:49.920 Yeah.

05:00:50.300 You leaving your fiancé?

05:00:51.240 No.

05:00:52.300 No.

05:00:52.620 Not for Brad Pitt?

05:00:53.340 No.

05:00:53.660 Okay, how about, um, who's, like, a younger?

05:00:55.900 Come on, the likely, come on.

05:00:56.920 Well, no, you're in an age gap, so, I mean, you're probably fine with Brad Pitt.

05:00:59.800 Yeah, I like, yeah.

05:01:00.980 Yeah, exactly.

05:01:01.360 He's like my older men.

05:01:02.480 You know.

05:01:03.460 You know.

05:01:04.680 I don't know.

05:01:05.260 Who's a bit younger?

05:01:06.440 Henry Cavill.

05:01:07.520 How about Henry Cavill?

05:01:08.400 Oh, no.

05:01:09.320 No.

05:01:09.860 No.

05:01:10.380 All right.

05:01:11.360 I'm just saying there's certain temptations, you know.

05:01:14.160 Yeah, you're not wrong.

05:01:15.280 You're not wrong.

05:01:15.660 There's a lot of alcohol in the mix.

05:01:16.740 I'm not saying it's a guarantee, but, um, here, we have some chats come through that

05:01:21.820 I got to read here.

05:01:23.800 Sorry, guys, I was, did any?

05:01:26.740 Oh, no, I think we're good.

05:01:28.000 Or, wait, let me double check.

05:01:29.520 Then we're going to continue on with the notes.

05:01:33.560 There it is.

05:01:34.240 Sorry, Pace.

05:01:34.740 Oh, just came in.

05:01:36.640 A message from the government of Canada.

05:01:38.420 Yeah, yeah.

05:01:39.500 Pasty George donated $200.04.

05:01:43.580 My brother has been married to an Asian woman for two years now in Southeast Asia, and he

05:01:48.660 noticed that feminist women back home are insecure and seek constant validation, while traditional

05:01:54.580 women do not.

05:02:04.660 Was there a question?

05:02:05.720 Yeah, yeah.

05:02:06.780 Yo, Pasty.

05:02:07.540 Thank you, man.

05:02:08.320 Felicity, why don't you take that seat?

05:02:09.400 Well, uh, uh, well, how about this final thought on this?

05:02:14.600 This is, uh, I'm going to do, I'm going to read it off here because I wrote it down.

05:02:18.720 Dream world hypothetical scenario.

05:02:20.980 I'm going to create a dream world for, for all of you.

05:02:23.280 Do I have a sound for this?

05:02:26.080 I don't think I do.

05:02:27.160 Um, whatever.

05:02:28.580 Uh, okay, here it is.

05:02:34.120 Dream world scenario.

05:02:34.820 So, would you be okay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a nightclub bar

05:02:39.620 or party-type environment where throughout the course of the night, he's going to get

05:02:44.100 approached, flirted with, and sexually pursued by numerous attractive women, some of which

05:02:49.820 might be more attractive than you, could potentially be a better partner than you.

05:02:54.200 These women are buying him drinks, getting him drunk, and enthusiastically, enthusiastically

05:03:01.580 want to sleep with him that night and steal him away from you.

05:03:06.160 All the friends he is going out with are single, by the way, and they're all kind of

05:03:10.260 fuck boys, you know?

05:03:11.160 They want their friend back.

05:03:13.300 They want to do some hood rat shit, but he's like wife, wifey with you, you know?

05:03:18.040 Not actually married, but whatever.

05:03:20.020 So, they want him back.

05:03:21.460 They're like, our boy is all locked up with his girlfriend, whatever.

05:03:25.420 Maybe they don't have the highest opinion of you either, right?

05:03:29.300 Sometimes it's the case.

05:03:30.140 And he does this regularly, once or twice a week, I guess instead of spending time with

05:03:38.900 you.

05:03:41.380 Would you be okay with that scenario?

05:03:44.220 No.

05:03:45.500 If he would go for them, then I don't want him.

05:03:47.360 Felicity, you can come.

05:03:48.720 Go ahead.

05:03:49.880 If he would go for that, then I don't want him.

05:03:52.180 No, no, no.

05:03:52.580 It's not that he would go for that, but that's the position that he finds himself in.

05:03:56.020 Oh, well, what is his response?

05:03:58.580 I don't know.

05:03:59.120 You're good.

05:04:01.100 I mean, like...

05:04:02.500 The only thing that bothers me about that is just, like, he prefers to go out than spending

05:04:06.600 time with me.

05:04:07.360 That's, like, the only thing.

05:04:08.820 Like, and also, this was, like, if he did this, obviously, like, I can't help that he

05:04:11.960 would have single friends and whatever.

05:04:13.840 So, if he did this every, like, two, three weeks, like, sure, if this is how he wants to spend

05:04:18.220 his time with his friends.

05:04:18.440 Well, how about he, uh, you spend as much time with him as you want, then?

05:04:22.020 But, I mean, you guys are long distance.

05:04:23.520 So, he's doing this at whatever school he's...

05:04:26.200 Yeah, then I guess...

05:04:27.740 High school parties, I guess.

05:04:28.900 What the fuck?

05:04:29.160 Okay.

05:04:30.460 I mean, yeah, then I'm fine with it.

05:04:31.880 I would want to see how he reacts to it, then.

05:04:34.060 Hell no.

05:04:34.680 Hell no?

05:04:35.820 Free will doesn't bother me.

05:04:37.360 It's what you do.

05:04:38.940 Okay.

05:04:39.540 So, if he put himself there, no, I probably wouldn't be with that man.

05:04:43.580 Okay.

05:04:44.000 What about you?

05:04:44.280 I don't like the situation.

05:04:45.500 You don't like it.

05:04:46.300 Okay, what do you think?

05:04:47.500 I don't like the situation, obviously.

05:04:50.540 I mean, as a partner, like, nobody just wants girls harassing their boyfriend just in general.

05:04:58.000 Like, I just find that so annoying.

05:05:01.140 But I would expect, like, the reaction out of my partner to respectfully decline.

05:05:07.160 Right.

05:05:07.340 And also mention, like, hey, I have a girlfriend so that he...

05:05:11.280 Or the person does, like, stop pestering him.

05:05:14.080 It sounds like he's being harassed.

05:05:15.760 What about you?

05:05:17.580 I don't understand why, if you're in a relationship, you want to put yourself in a position to be tempted in any way.

05:05:25.840 Or a mistake could happen.

05:05:28.000 Because there's not always going to be, like, a consistency.

05:05:33.160 There might be one night where, you know, he's feeling a little weak or she's feeling a little weak or something.

05:05:37.260 Or he's just had an argument.

05:05:38.480 It's like, yeah.

05:05:39.520 It's like, why are you going to put yourself in a position where lust can take over?

05:05:45.260 The Bible says, I'm going to bring it to the Bible because this is the truth, right?

05:05:48.980 The Bible says to flee from lust.

05:05:52.020 I know, but I have to bring it up because that's where my heart is.

05:05:54.200 Yeah, but that's not going to be compelling to an atheist.

05:05:56.480 Well, I have to plant the seed.

05:05:58.500 Okay.

05:05:58.800 That's my job.

05:05:59.420 Go ahead.

05:06:01.020 Yeah.

05:06:01.480 So, I mean, we have to flee from lust.

05:06:03.980 That's just the thing.

05:06:04.920 And I don't know why, if you're in a relationship, that you would put yourself in a position to be tempted.

05:06:10.580 Especially if it's consistently.

05:06:12.460 What I find interesting is...

05:06:13.980 I forgot your name.

05:06:15.040 Sorry.

05:06:15.280 It's Mahi.

05:06:15.820 Mahi.

05:06:16.360 Rude.

05:06:16.580 I'm sorry.

05:06:17.780 I'm so sorry.

05:06:18.940 I think you owe her an apology.

05:06:20.460 I asked her.

05:06:20.980 I'm sorry.

05:06:22.120 Forgive me.

05:06:22.660 Go ahead.

05:06:23.560 No, how she actually says the opposite.

05:06:26.400 I find that super interesting.

05:06:27.580 She's like, I want to see what my guy's going to do and how he's going to react.

05:06:32.160 I 100% would not be that confident.

05:06:36.140 Personally, I'm like, oh, no, no, no.

05:06:39.000 You stay home.

05:06:40.080 Whatever.

05:06:40.720 But she's totally on another...

05:06:42.780 You know what I mean?

05:06:43.360 So, to each their own.

05:06:44.600 I think it's nothing to do with confidence.

05:06:46.280 It's just like if...

05:06:47.880 I would want to find out sooner than later.

05:06:50.040 Like, say he didn't go partying.

05:06:52.120 Say he didn't do anything.

05:06:53.320 And then we get married.

05:06:54.560 And then 10 years later, like, he somehow ends up at a party.

05:06:57.080 And then he ends up cheating on me.

05:06:58.640 Like, I just...

05:06:59.380 It's not like I want him to be constantly tempted.

05:07:01.240 But I want to see how he acts in these situations.

05:07:03.700 Just so I know he's the right one.

05:07:05.400 Like, I don't want, obviously, someone who's lustful for other women.

05:07:09.040 But if he's not put in these situations, how will I ever know?

05:07:12.960 To play the devil's advocate, though, like, how would you know?

05:07:16.740 I mean, if...

05:07:17.680 I mean, I mean, most people...

05:07:18.960 I'm just playing the devil's advocate.

05:07:20.040 I don't know.

05:07:20.560 I feel like if you find out your, like, husband's cheating on you, maybe you don't find it immediately.

05:07:24.180 Sometimes people don't find out at all.

05:07:25.640 But, I mean, with social media, with, like, all their apps and everything, like, I feel like you could find it on his phone.

05:07:31.880 Lust is inevitable at this point.

05:07:34.360 So, it's better to find out sooner than later the temptation of lust that you were talking about.

05:07:38.760 Like I said, I'm not Christian.

05:07:39.980 Yeah.

05:07:40.180 But I do...

05:07:40.960 I like the truth in that statement.

05:07:42.600 It's like, if you detach yourself from lust or from any temptation, this could go with drugs.

05:07:47.500 Or, in this case, it's going with love.

05:07:49.380 You don't even have to deal with it.

05:07:50.400 But let's say in that situation, I'd rather find out sooner than later, I could let my boyfriend roam free with dozens of models.

05:08:01.800 And I know that at the end of the day, because we are built on a foundation of trust, he'd still choose my stinky ass.

05:08:08.280 Because it's down to the soul, you know what I mean?

05:08:11.060 So, I'd rather find out sooner than later.

05:08:13.040 It's down to the soul, man.

05:08:14.140 I guess the point of the dream world hypothetical, it's to articulate the point of the gender difference.

05:08:22.600 So, what I described there, where your boyfriend, he goes to the club, and all these girls are hitting on him and trying to buy him drinks, and they want to fuck him that night.

05:08:31.220 That doesn't happen.

05:08:32.920 The reverse happens.

05:08:34.420 Women go to the club, and men buy you drinks.

05:08:37.320 They're flirtatious.

05:08:38.480 They want to sleep with you that night, if they can.

05:08:42.000 That's...

05:08:42.640 Or it's a party, whatever.

05:08:43.900 If you're not 21, that's the reality.

05:08:47.960 And so, it's like, when you flip, when you kind of put it in that paradigm, it's like, I don't know if I'd feel comfortable with, like, hordes of women just, like, enthusiastically offering up sex to my boyfriend.

05:09:02.020 Yeah.

05:09:02.340 You can kind of see...

05:09:03.280 But you can maybe better see the perspective.

05:09:06.100 Because from us men, it's like, if we go to the club and we're being good, girls ain't coming.

05:09:12.100 Girls aren't coming up and talking to us.

05:09:14.360 Well, they might.

05:09:14.860 Generally speaking.

05:09:15.640 They might.

05:09:16.260 I mean, like, look.

05:09:17.220 It depends on the man.

05:09:19.620 And also, like, as far as you go, I mean, okay, I'm not going to even talk about, like, looks.

05:09:25.220 But, like, because you are sort of, like, a notable figure, women will 1,000% talk to you, you know, try to associate with you because they know who you are.

05:09:35.980 That's a very real thing also.

05:09:37.320 My audience is mostly men.

05:09:38.940 So, I mean, it's like 80-20.

05:09:41.460 It's like 80% men.

05:09:43.300 But, girl, look.

05:09:44.420 I think for that level of clout, like, you need to be either, like, it has to be an interest of hers or, like, you have to be proper famous and be, like, a musician, actor, like, something else.

05:10:01.760 Like, girls don't really, like, girls don't really, I think they don't really care that much.

05:10:06.440 Like, if you're, like, semi-famous on YouTube, like, girls don't really give a shit.

05:10:13.480 Unless they're a fan.

05:10:14.480 Now, that's different, though.

05:10:15.640 But, like, if I was at a club and some girl was, like, hey, yo, that's that guy with that pod.

05:10:21.600 First off, they'd be, like, fuck that guy.

05:10:24.280 They'd be, like, fuck him.

05:10:25.560 But they're not, like, the girl would be, like, oh, okay.

05:10:30.620 Cool.

05:10:31.480 I don't think they're going to, like, I think, unless, again, unless she's a fan, then that's a different dynamic, though.

05:10:37.660 Then you've got a groupie.

05:10:39.100 That's different.

05:10:39.660 But, like, a girl could see somebody who's got real high status, like, famous athlete, musician, actor, whatever.

05:10:48.860 Right.

05:10:49.020 Even if she's not really familiar with him, that status will become attractive in that context.

05:10:56.340 But a YouTuber, I don't think girls give a shit.

05:10:58.940 I don't know.

05:10:59.300 I've seen a lot of girls just go up to guys.

05:11:02.540 Like, especially at, like, the parties, the UCSB.

05:11:06.620 It's a lot of girls going up to guys.

05:11:08.940 Sure.

05:11:10.060 Yeah, I was actually going to say that.

05:11:11.240 Like, you said, like, it's a lot, like, the majority is men.

05:11:13.760 But I was going to say, what I've seen, like, I would say it's, like, maybe, like, 30, 70, 60, 40.

05:11:19.820 That was ultimately my point is even if women will go up to guys, I would say, and I think that attention is a bit skewed.

05:11:29.420 So, like, you'll have, you'll have, say you have 100 girls in a club, 100 guys in a club, 100 girls in a party, 100 guys in a party.

05:11:39.220 The tension will be skewed.

05:11:41.940 Like, men will more proportionately distribute the romantic or sexual interest to all the girls.

05:11:48.440 Whereas, like, I think the girls are going to, like, hyper-focus in on, like, 10 of the dudes out of the 100.

05:11:57.640 And you actually see this with, like, dating apps, for example.

05:11:59.900 I feel like recently men get shyer and shyer and, like, more and more scared of, to talk to women.

05:12:06.040 Probably for a good reason sometimes.

05:12:08.020 But I would argue, though, that if you do look at the frequency of which people get approached at the bar or club, to your point,

05:12:18.880 that even if it is the case that women do occasionally approach men,

05:12:23.080 what I'm trying to talk about here is, even though that happens, it's overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly the case that women are going to be the ones who get approached.

05:12:38.200 Like, I would say, you put an average dude, like, think about the last time you went to Target or Walmart or CVS.

05:12:47.100 You put the cashier at CVS in a nightclub.

05:12:50.140 No girls are, that guy's not talking to anybody the entire night if he's just kicking it.

05:12:57.220 You put the girl who works at CVS in a nightclub.

05:13:02.720 Bro, she's getting, she's, seven dudes, ten dudes are coming in to talk to her.

05:13:07.680 Coming to talk to her.

05:13:09.420 That's how it is.

05:13:10.640 Like, I just want to, like, I know women, it's, yeah, if you look at it, majority women get hit on more.

05:13:16.300 But if your partner is respectful, why does it matter?

05:13:18.600 Like, she would reject him and go on with her night.

05:13:21.300 Like, that's what I'm saying.

05:13:22.120 Like, I know so many people who, their boyfriends still limit them.

05:13:25.460 But I've seen them.

05:13:26.420 Like, they reject the guy.

05:13:28.220 Like, they've never even played into it.

05:13:29.920 Yeah, sure.

05:13:30.380 And that's what, like, that was what I said.

05:13:32.620 Like, I feel like you shouldn't, relationships shouldn't be like that.

05:13:34.960 Like, you shouldn't be restricting your partner.

05:13:36.320 Especially if they're respectful.

05:13:37.380 I don't understand really what they're worried about.

05:13:39.920 I feel like they should also be, not like happy, but like, they should be, I don't know.

05:13:44.860 Like, they should be happy that their partner is also rejecting and they should also have more trust in a relationship because of that.

05:13:50.340 That was just, like, mostly my point.

05:13:52.420 Do you think, like, in all instances of somebody cheating that, like, there was major issues in the relationship?

05:14:01.560 Or could it be the case that, like, alcohol, hot dude, hot girl, oops, made a mistake, cheated?

05:14:10.260 But then also, if you found out your partner cheated, shouldn't you, I guess, kind of be glad that you found out and you aren't, like, putting a lot more effort into the relationship or spending more time with them?

05:14:22.960 Like, at least that's how I think about it.

05:14:24.540 I think that's how my partner also thinks about it.

05:14:27.120 Like, we are kind of, like, we don't, we're putting each other, like, we don't care that we're putting each other, like, we're in these situations.

05:14:33.320 It's because if one of us ever messes up, then that kind of just shows the type of person we are and that we wouldn't want to waste any more time or effort that we're putting into the relationship.

05:14:41.780 Well, I think that's a compelling point, and it's a good argument.

05:14:44.740 I think what I would point to, though, is that people make mistakes.

05:14:48.440 People fall into temptation.

05:14:51.780 And, hold on, what?

05:14:55.020 Somebody's saying something in the chat.

05:14:56.920 I have no idea what.

05:14:59.260 I think people make mistakes.

05:15:00.840 People fall into temptation.

05:15:01.980 You throw alcohol in the mix.

05:15:04.960 I think it's okay for people to, in a relationship, to do, it's called, like, mate guarding.

05:15:12.960 So, like, trying to, you might consider controlling or whatever.

05:15:17.820 I do, I personally consider more so having boundaries.

05:15:21.960 I think that's kind of normal.

05:15:23.740 And it's like, hey, I don't want you doing X, Y, Z.

05:15:28.660 I don't know.

05:15:30.000 We're going to move on to a new topic.

05:15:31.600 We have Pasty George here.

05:15:32.880 A message from the government of Canada.

05:15:34.020 From the government of Canada.

05:15:35.900 Pasty George donated $200.04.

05:15:39.200 That's the thing about today's modern women influenced by feminism.

05:15:43.100 It's all about them.

05:15:44.580 And a man can never have a hobby.

05:15:46.720 She will often sabotage or guilt trip him from enjoying his chill time.

05:15:52.320 Who hurt you, George?

05:15:53.280 Wait, can you just, again, just, if you're going to speak, please speak into the microphone.

05:15:58.960 Do you want to repeat it into the mic so we can?

05:16:00.720 Who hurt you, George?

05:16:03.840 George?

05:16:04.240 Who hurt you, George?

05:16:05.740 Who hurt you, George?

05:16:07.500 I love how he's just, like, putting out statements and, like, there's not really any questions, but.

05:16:14.160 It's fine.

05:16:15.040 No, it's cool.

05:16:15.560 I think it's fine.

05:16:16.240 It's cool.

05:16:17.140 He's welcome to ask questions, though.

05:16:18.620 Who hurt you, Pasty George?

05:16:20.020 Was it some, some, it was a, it was a, it was a Vancouver chick, wasn't it?

05:16:27.320 He's Canadian.

05:16:28.320 Some girl from Vancouver broke this guy's heart.

05:16:31.020 Broke my heart, Vancouver.

05:16:33.220 Okay, anyways.

05:16:36.040 Oh, whoops, what the fuck?

05:16:37.520 Why did I play that?

05:16:39.680 Okay, we're going to get into this thing really quick, but you're, welcome back.

05:16:43.780 Welcome back to the table.

05:16:45.040 I did tell you, though, we would try to at least finish off your criticisms when you did rejoin.

05:16:49.620 Did you want to finish that convo off?

05:16:53.400 Sorry, say that again?

05:16:56.780 Did you just not hear?

05:16:57.960 I spaced out for a second.

05:16:59.060 I'm genuinely sorry.

05:17:00.360 I spaced out.

05:17:01.000 Can you repeat that, please?

05:17:01.760 Yeah, just, again, though, can you just speak closer to the mic?

05:17:05.180 I'm sorry.

05:17:05.860 Can you repeat that again, please?

05:17:07.600 Yeah, you stepped away for a moment.

05:17:10.420 You said when you came back, you'd be fine to finish off the convo we were having.

05:17:15.400 I don't intend on lingering on it long.

05:17:18.080 No, it's all good, man.

05:17:19.840 It's just been a long week.

05:17:21.520 I had to take a little moment.

05:17:22.780 You know, I'm not really used to sitting in one place for like eight hours of time and just talking and talking.

05:17:27.580 So, I had to take a little step out, but I'm all good.

05:17:30.240 Your ancestors...

05:17:33.260 Wait, did you say you were Eastern European?

05:17:36.700 I'm Moldovan, yes.

05:17:37.880 Moldovan.

05:17:39.320 Your great, great, great, great ancestors before they came to the United States, do you know your family tree?

05:17:44.960 Um, vaguely.

05:17:46.020 They're from this tiny little Moldovan village called Chilukani, and we all got butt-fucked by the Russians.

05:17:52.140 Not like actually.

05:17:52.680 Do you know when, like, your family, like, immigrated here?

05:17:56.680 Oh, yeah.

05:17:57.060 I'm a first-gen American.

05:17:58.600 Both my parents are fresh out in Moldova.

05:18:00.760 Oh, okay.

05:18:01.620 All right.

05:18:02.360 I was going to say, if you've been here a couple generations, I was going to say, like, shit.

05:18:05.680 Going back to, like, 1700s, 1900s or whatever, your ancestors came here on a boat, and the journey took six to eight weeks, and half the people on the boat died, and you're sitting, and fucking, you got scurvy and shit.

05:18:21.600 It's like, come on.

05:18:22.560 You know what I mean?

05:18:23.660 I wish that was the case, but my dad smuggled my mom across the border by plane.

05:18:28.500 Yeah.

05:18:28.820 That's also kind of a little crazy, right?

05:18:31.480 There's a lot to unpack.

05:18:32.580 Your dad...

05:18:33.240 She's legal now.

05:18:33.840 Your dad sat on an airplane for 20 hours coming from Moldova.

05:18:38.800 You know, you got a transfer in fucking Paris or England.

05:18:41.760 I was just out there.

05:18:42.660 Moldova's fucking beautiful.

05:18:44.660 Shout out.

05:18:45.560 I was planning on staying there and just becoming, like, a goat farmer.

05:18:50.300 Yeah, Europe's cool.

05:18:51.520 Europe's dope.

05:18:52.100 What were we talking about?

05:18:53.440 Yeah, just, I wanted...

05:18:54.480 Again, I really don't want to linger long.

05:18:56.520 I just wanted to get through the conversation super quick.

05:18:58.940 Your criticisms.

05:18:59.980 I just wanted to get through your criticisms.

05:19:01.640 Do you want to at least elaborate a little bit?

05:19:04.380 And again, I'll literally...

05:19:05.720 We get through it.

05:19:07.000 I'll be off of it within five minutes.

05:19:08.520 Correct me if I'm wrong.

05:19:10.240 Maybe this is just because sitting in one conversation and talking about, from what it seems to me,

05:19:16.060 are very superficial frat sorority.

05:19:18.840 Boy, girl, boy, girl, at least from my perspective, under this white light for, like, eight hours straight.

05:19:26.260 I'm offended on her behalf that you're throwing sorority girls under the bus.

05:19:29.640 This is really rude to Greek life, okay?

05:19:33.480 Greek life.

05:19:34.040 Nothing wrong with Greek life.

05:19:35.000 Plenty of high IQ conversations happening at SIGAP.

05:19:38.300 Trust me, big, big, high IQ conversations happening at SIGAP, at, what is it, ATO, at, I don't know the other frat, too.

05:19:49.600 Beta.

05:19:50.260 Delta, Zeta.

05:19:51.320 Mahi knows her geography, though, and history.

05:19:54.320 Like, she's A1, weren't you, like...

05:19:56.120 Yeah, she...

05:19:56.580 No, I love my sorority homegirls.

05:19:58.980 It just kind of feels weird for, like...

05:20:01.100 I don't know, you're, like, 36 years old, sir, if you don't mind me asking.

05:20:04.400 He's just kind of, like, sitting here, like, asking about the intricate dynamics of, like, Greek life.

05:20:09.160 I don't know.

05:20:10.100 It's just new to me, but I...

05:20:11.940 You brought up the...

05:20:11.960 I wasn't asking about the...

05:20:12.960 You brought up the Greek life.

05:20:13.980 It's just, for eight hours straight, I can't really concentrate on it much, and I'm...

05:20:18.700 We weren't talking about Greek life.

05:20:19.620 ...constantly recorded.

05:20:20.640 It's just all new to me, so I need to take a step back, but...

05:20:24.440 Hey, man, this is your show, and you let me in on here, so I'll take breaks as needed, but it's, like...

05:20:30.320 It's to each their own.

05:20:32.880 I appreciate being here.

05:20:34.060 I just had to take a little moment out.

05:20:36.160 I'm just not used to yapping for, like...

05:20:38.720 You're still yapping.

05:20:39.800 ...seven hours straight, but you wanted to continue the conversation, so that's just me finishing it up, but, like...

05:20:44.500 Appreciate it, man.

05:20:45.320 No, but...

05:20:46.060 What does any of that have to do with your original criticisms?

05:20:51.220 We wanted to talk about this, and...

05:20:55.400 What's the next conversation?

05:20:56.580 Wait, you invoked my age.

05:20:58.220 I'm a little confused there.

05:20:59.420 What was the, like, issue with the age thing?

05:21:02.220 I don't know.

05:21:02.580 It just feels kind of off to me.

05:21:05.040 We have a 33-year-old, 26-year-old, 36-year-old...

05:21:08.700 Don't remind me.

05:21:10.280 Like, sometimes the panel's younger, sometimes the panel's older.

05:21:13.680 We try to diversify the panels a little bit, just so it's not just, like...

05:21:17.580 It's not just 30-year-olds.

05:21:19.620 It's not just 20-year-olds.

05:21:21.620 For sure.

05:21:22.240 But what's weird about it, I guess?

05:21:24.300 I don't know.

05:21:24.660 It just kind of rubbed me off the wrong way, considering...

05:21:27.640 Why?

05:21:28.040 Why can professors who are, like, in their 50s, 60s, and 70s talk to them for hours on end, but I can't have a one-time...

05:21:37.240 Good point.

05:21:38.400 That's fair.

05:21:39.740 Good point.

05:21:40.120 And, by the way, they have to, like, pay the professors.

05:21:43.220 Like, they probably...

05:21:43.940 Some of them are going into debt, taking on student loan debt.

05:21:47.980 I mean, I don't actually see the issue with somebody who's older talking to a younger adult.

05:21:53.700 What's the actual criticism?

05:21:56.320 You want to walk that one back, or...?

05:21:58.720 It's all good.

05:21:59.260 We can just move on.

05:21:59.680 It's all good, broski.

05:22:01.140 It's all good, broski!

05:22:02.980 No, it's...

05:22:04.160 What is it...

05:22:05.040 It gives you the ick?

05:22:06.860 No.

05:22:07.320 So, is it, like, if a father talks to his adult, like, young adult daughter, that's weird because he's older than her?

05:22:14.820 Listen, man, it's...

05:22:16.680 Don't get into your feelings about it.

05:22:18.300 Wait, don't get into your feelings about it.

05:22:20.360 I'm not, man.

05:22:21.320 I'm not, man.

05:22:22.000 I'm just ready to move on to the next conversation.

05:22:25.980 Well, you bring these things up that...

05:22:28.860 You brought it up.

05:22:30.260 No, well, you're like...

05:22:31.520 You brought up, Brian, it's kind of weird that you're...

05:22:34.060 36, blah, blah, blah.

05:22:34.940 It's like, okay.

05:22:36.400 You beget the conversation.

05:22:39.820 So, you don't want to explain why it's weird?

05:22:41.800 Like, I'm just trying to understand.

05:22:43.300 She said fair point.

05:22:45.300 Like...

05:22:46.100 About the professor comment.

05:22:47.560 Yeah, I said fair point.

05:22:49.020 Well, about the professor comment, but she still thinks it's weird.

05:22:53.940 Can we just move on, please, man?

05:22:57.520 You brought up this conversation.

05:22:59.180 I spoke my thoughts.

05:23:00.000 You spoke your thoughts.

05:23:00.800 I said fair point.

05:23:01.740 Let's move on to the next conversation.

05:23:02.960 Oh, yeah.

05:23:03.160 What about the other criticisms, though?

05:23:04.680 There was the other stuff.

05:23:06.820 This was like an hour ago, dude.

05:23:09.020 I said my points.

05:23:10.460 You said your points.

05:23:11.320 I said fair point.

05:23:11.840 Why are you getting in your feelings about it?

05:23:13.240 I'm not upset.

05:23:14.680 Neither am I.

05:23:15.600 You seem a little upset by it.

05:23:18.800 You're like, move on.

05:23:19.840 If it wasn't a big deal, you wouldn't be like, just move on.

05:23:22.420 You're pouting.

05:23:25.860 Now you're pouting.

05:23:26.420 I'm not pouting, man.

05:23:27.700 I just genuinely want to talk about something else.

05:23:29.780 Your tone's completely...

05:23:31.020 I just genuinely want to talk about something else.

05:23:33.640 Weren't we just going back to our whole conversation?

05:23:35.120 Okay, but now we're in a meta conversation.

05:23:37.320 If I say, hey, I want to hear your criticisms, I'll address them, then we'll move on.

05:23:41.640 But now you're doing a stone wall where you're like, eh, I'm just not going to state my criticisms.

05:23:45.740 But I already did several times, and you're just kind of picking at them, so I'd rather just continue with the conversation we were having before.

05:23:54.640 I spoke my mind, and that's all I really have to say.

05:23:56.820 But I was asking for clarification on what your criticisms were.

05:24:08.620 I don't know why you...

05:24:09.980 I'm really not even pushing all that hard here.

05:24:13.760 Dude, me neither.

05:24:14.360 I would rather just discuss something else.

05:24:16.080 But you're like, oh my god, you're like imploding in.

05:24:19.340 I would rather just discuss something else, man.

05:24:22.220 But you brought all this up.

05:24:25.660 This originated with you.

05:24:27.620 I stepped away.

05:24:30.480 You got up.

05:24:31.880 As I did.

05:24:32.400 You got up.

05:24:33.340 Come back ready to talk about, join the conversation that we're having.

05:24:36.640 But the moment I step back in, it's like, I was trying to contribute to their conversation.

05:24:40.960 Yeah, no, but when you were back there, I said, hey, when you come back, and before you left, you said you needed a breather.

05:24:47.760 I did.

05:24:48.040 We said we would revisit the conversation so you could have the breather, and then finish off the conversation.

05:24:52.920 I'm being good faith.

05:24:54.840 I said, I just want to have the convo, and then we'll move right.

05:24:58.960 You're just stalling.

05:25:00.100 You're delaying.

05:25:00.840 We'll move right back into the dating conversation.

05:25:03.040 But I think it's fair when you, like, I step away from the podcast, and you're like, yo, fuck this podcast.

05:25:09.000 It's really superficial, especially considering that, like, a 36-year-old man is leading a full-grown conversation, almost like, really, like, gritting into, like, 18, 19-year-old girls about our relationship with birth and sex.

05:25:23.300 And we're still discovering this process, and every time we make a remote flaw and lapse in judgment, it's just, look, maybe I have this wrong.

05:25:34.560 Maybe I have this incorrect, like I said, I'm not really used to Hollywood or being filmed for eight hours straight, but it's just something I'm a lot used to it.

05:25:41.420 Trust me, if you're on the Hollywood film set, they film for 12 hours, so I don't, I don't.

05:25:46.520 Well, now I know.

05:25:47.920 Now I know.

05:25:48.340 Like, major shows, like, if you look at Game of Thrones, it's an absolute fucking grind.

05:25:53.260 I don't really understand the objection.

05:25:57.440 But, again, the age thing, I can't really change my age.

05:26:04.560 You guys can't change your age.

05:26:05.960 It is what it is.

05:26:06.940 I don't see why that's a criticism.

05:26:10.380 Like, you think this would be a more productive conversation if some, like, frat boy who's never had a girlfriend was leading the convo?

05:26:15.720 No, I just, I wasn't expecting, like, an eight-hour straight conversation about just pretty superficial topics.

05:26:24.480 I don't know.

05:26:25.000 I thought.

05:26:25.620 I think this has actually had, the conversation has had massive amounts of depth.

05:26:29.860 Superficial would be, like, what's your favorite sex position, which we've never done any of that.

05:26:36.040 Good point.

05:26:36.720 I think this is not super fit.

05:26:38.440 What's the opposite of, chat?

05:26:39.660 Look, I apologize.

05:26:41.200 Chat, what's the opposite of superficial?

05:26:43.220 Like, deep depth?

05:26:44.720 I apologize, man.

05:26:46.200 Let's just keep this going.

05:26:47.460 I think that the nature of the conversation has actually been quite deep.

05:26:52.960 We've talked about all kinds of different things.

05:26:55.360 We've talked about, I think oftentimes I have criticisms that people find the show is superficial.

05:27:04.140 You know, we talk about what's your body count or, you know, what do you rate your looks on a scale of one to ten?

05:27:09.440 We haven't even got there yet.

05:27:11.180 We've been talking about, I think, deep shit.

05:27:13.300 We've been talking about children, marriage.

05:27:17.460 Which, I think that that's actually a pretty valid conversation.

05:27:23.180 Good point, for sure.

05:27:24.240 It's just, at least on my shoes, it's been eight hours straight of this.

05:27:28.540 And I really have admiration for these guys' stamina.

05:27:32.200 Because, to be honest, I'm ready to knock out.

05:27:34.620 I'm ready to go to sleep.

05:27:35.920 So, I just want to let y'all take the rest of the conversation.

05:27:38.180 We're all the same.

05:27:39.040 Yeah.

05:27:39.320 Like, I've spoke my mind.

05:27:40.860 I've spoke my truth.

05:27:41.620 So have you.

05:27:42.100 I've taken a breather.

05:27:43.200 I'd rather just go back to the conversation we were having.

05:27:45.380 Because, you got me cornered.

05:27:46.560 Look, man, like, I had my critiques.

05:27:50.220 You had your, you know, objections to those critiques.

05:27:53.860 And I said fair, valid point.

05:27:55.940 And now I think it's time to move on.

05:27:57.940 Like, we've been ruminating on this for too long.

05:27:59.660 Look, you got to understand, it's not your podcast.

05:28:01.900 I'm the host.

05:28:02.940 So, you're not going to really dictate the terms of what we talk about, what we don't.

05:28:06.940 I think it's fair game, especially as the host.

05:28:10.300 If somebody raises a point for me to engage them on that point.

05:28:13.440 If I want to talk about banana bread for the rest of the show, you guys will be hard-pressed to actually prevent me from even doing that.

05:28:22.280 I'm going to be so down to talk about banana bread for the rest of the show, dude.

05:28:24.900 In any case, though, I guess the final question here is, you said that it's a very superficial conversation.

05:28:34.240 Why don't you ask a profound dating-related question that's actually profound?

05:28:39.760 Go ahead.

05:28:40.080 It doesn't have to be profound, but...

05:28:43.080 I thought this was too superficial for you.

05:28:45.040 I thought you were bored.

05:28:46.560 It's not that I'm bored.

05:28:47.540 Okay.

05:28:47.700 Okay, well, it's too superficial for you.

05:28:48.680 Can y'all tell me some sweet stories about, like, the hardest you've fallen in love?

05:28:52.860 Oh, my God.

05:28:53.200 Or what love means to you?

05:28:54.280 Oh, my God.

05:28:55.180 What?

05:28:55.940 What?

05:28:56.440 Womp womp.

05:28:57.820 I don't know.

05:28:58.460 I just wanted to lighten it up a little bit, man.

05:29:01.220 That's fucking disgusting.

05:29:04.740 Sorry.

05:29:05.460 Sorry.

05:29:05.740 That sounds more superficial than what we've been talking about, but...

05:29:12.740 Can you guys tell me a little moment where you spooned your boyfriend and he was a small spoon,

05:29:20.480 a little spoon, and you pegged him afterwards?

05:29:22.680 I don't know.

05:29:23.740 That...

05:29:24.460 Good talk.

05:29:25.740 All right.

05:29:28.520 A message from the government of Canada.

05:29:31.400 Pastey George donated $200.04.

05:29:35.280 To answer Chair One's question, I'm just quoting facts from the statements and experiences of many men who had relationships with feminist women.

05:29:44.640 Also, we all know you are hurting, and you show it LOL.

05:29:48.740 Oh, for sure.

05:29:50.800 Not gonna argue with you on that.

05:29:52.020 Like, yeah.

05:29:52.520 I just want to keep the conversation moving.

05:29:54.740 I want to hear these girls' opinions.

05:29:56.680 I spoke my truth for the past, like, seven hours.

05:29:59.720 Is it not something I'm used to?

05:30:01.140 I don't know.

05:30:01.460 What does that mean, speak your truth?

05:30:03.680 I spoke my mind.

05:30:05.160 I don't like...

05:30:05.840 I don't like that.

05:30:09.120 Speak...

05:30:09.760 Speak my truth.

05:30:12.880 I believe in the truth.

05:30:14.820 I believe in individual truths.

05:30:17.060 I believe in the truth.

05:30:19.240 Like, objective truth.

05:30:20.600 It's just the same.

05:30:22.520 No, I know it's something that's...

05:30:24.960 It's just a saying.

05:30:25.700 Everyone has their own truth.

05:30:26.860 It's my truth that the earth is flat.

05:30:29.260 Well, objectively, the earth isn't flat, you know?

05:30:32.280 Can we just continue this conversation?

05:30:34.040 Like, I don't want this to be that long.

05:30:35.380 I want to...

05:30:36.420 Uh, okay.

05:30:37.340 You brought me back on here, and I'm trying to, like, have a group discussion, and it's immediately back to boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

05:30:43.800 Like, dude, you want it?

05:30:48.020 It's cool.

05:30:49.520 I was off of...

05:30:51.060 I was making a jab at your...

05:30:53.900 My truth.

05:30:55.360 Yeah.

05:30:56.240 By the way, five hours is not eight hours, just saying.

05:30:59.040 Okay.

05:30:59.180 Feels like it, man.

05:31:00.060 God, I know these lights.

05:31:01.000 It feels like...

05:31:01.580 She it.

05:31:02.560 She it.

05:31:03.180 Uh, here, we're going to do, uh, a little, uh, okay.

05:31:08.120 Andrew Tate, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.

05:31:12.420 Andrew Tate.

05:31:13.920 Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.

05:31:16.100 You can't pick seven.

05:31:17.780 So rate your own looks, scale of one to ten.

05:31:19.720 Can't pick seven.

05:31:20.500 Oh, I buy.

05:31:21.180 Starting with you.

05:31:22.200 Go ahead.

05:31:23.220 I'd say three on an average day.

05:31:24.840 If I doll myself up correctly, I could work my way up to a five, and that's about it.

05:31:29.920 Lovely.

05:31:30.500 What about you?

05:31:33.180 Six point five.

05:31:34.880 Uh, let's avoid, like, half decimals.

05:31:38.960 No.

05:31:40.060 Six?

05:31:41.280 I guess it's going to have to be a six or an eight, if you have to pick one.

05:31:44.940 Can't pick seven.

05:31:48.780 Eight feels high.

05:31:49.780 Six feels low.

05:31:51.560 That's why he doesn't want us doing seven.

05:31:55.680 Um, six.

05:31:58.340 Okay.

05:31:58.800 What about you?

05:32:00.300 Eight.

05:32:01.140 Eight?

05:32:01.500 Okay.

05:32:01.720 Is this actually Andrew Tate asking?

05:32:04.260 No.

05:32:04.960 Yes.

05:32:06.240 Boy, bye.

05:32:07.060 I refuse to answer this question.

05:32:08.620 Okay, it's not actually Andrew Tate asking.

05:32:10.820 Now do you want to answer the question?

05:32:12.820 I, I, I abhor this question.

05:32:15.920 I don't.

05:32:16.180 Because Andrew Tate asked it?

05:32:17.260 No, no, just in general.

05:32:18.340 So if it was, like, Kamala Harris who asked it, would you be fine with it?

05:32:21.000 Anybody who asked that?

05:32:21.960 What would it be worse if Kamala asked it?

05:32:23.560 Not going to answer it.

05:32:24.520 I refuse.

05:32:24.660 Because I think you're conservative, right?

05:32:26.420 I am.

05:32:27.260 I'm not going to answer that.

05:32:28.600 Why, why?

05:32:30.860 Just curious.

05:32:32.240 Um, because we as people are so multidimensional and it's, no, it's the truth.

05:32:41.180 No, not in looks.

05:32:42.380 I mean, just in general.

05:32:43.240 Yeah, but the question is about looks.

05:32:44.240 This is the most, like, basic of the basic of questions in my life.

05:32:50.220 I love basic questions.

05:32:50.860 I love it now.

05:32:51.840 I don't, and I refuse.

05:32:53.200 I am becoming superficial like she accused me of.

05:32:55.920 I refuse.

05:32:56.540 What's that Eminem lyric, like, I am whatever you say I am.

05:33:00.040 If I wasn't, then why would you say I am?

05:33:01.600 This, this is exactly the same, this is exactly the same response that I would give to anybody

05:33:06.200 who asks, um.

05:33:08.460 Is it because you're a 10?

05:33:10.000 No.

05:33:10.760 Okay.

05:33:10.960 Who asks, um, what do you bring to the table?

05:33:14.160 Boy.

05:33:14.240 What's wrong with that?

05:33:14.980 Boy.

05:33:15.880 Bye.

05:33:16.400 What is wrong with that?

05:33:17.300 Boy.

05:33:17.580 Boy.

05:33:17.900 This is the most.

05:33:18.420 I love that question.

05:33:19.600 Offensive.

05:33:20.440 The most.

05:33:21.340 Why is it offensive?

05:33:22.180 No.

05:33:22.380 Why would it be offensive?

05:33:23.180 No.

05:33:23.780 Okay.

05:33:24.080 We'll come back to the table thing.

05:33:25.640 All right.

05:33:25.840 What about you?

05:33:26.380 I'm not offended by the question.

05:33:28.720 W.

05:33:29.000 Hannah in the chat.

05:33:29.960 Yeah, I think people judge on different scales depending on what you're attracted to.

05:33:37.900 How the fuck was that?

05:33:38.740 Eight.

05:33:39.560 I don't know.

05:33:40.700 Eight?

05:33:41.120 Okay.

05:33:41.680 I'd say eight as well.

05:33:42.900 Eight.

05:33:43.380 I would also say eight.

05:33:44.540 Eight.

05:33:46.440 Ten.

05:33:47.340 Ten?

05:33:47.740 Oh, I should have started over here on this side.

05:33:49.720 Yes, queen.

05:33:52.040 What the fuck?

05:33:54.320 What the fuck?

05:33:55.360 I'm a girl's girl, okay?

05:33:56.800 I'm a girl's girl.

05:33:57.480 Oh, boy.

05:33:58.340 Okay.

05:33:58.900 So, we got a ten.

05:34:00.360 And I think you want to say you're a ten.

05:34:02.120 Is that it?

05:34:02.460 No.

05:34:02.980 No, that's not it.

05:34:04.280 No, that's not it.

05:34:05.220 I just, I absolutely hate the question.

05:34:07.560 I don't.

05:34:08.260 She hates it.

05:34:09.040 I hate it beyond measure.

05:34:10.480 I will not answer it.

05:34:11.420 Period.

05:34:12.820 Sue me.

05:34:14.040 I will litigate this.

05:34:16.540 I'm filing a lawsuit tomorrow.

05:34:18.180 And that is the response of the true ten.

05:34:19.740 I will.

05:34:22.620 Period.

05:34:23.600 How would you rate yourself once a ten?

05:34:24.960 Oh, yeah, yeah.

05:34:25.520 I forgot to rate myself.

05:34:28.040 I give myself a five.

05:34:30.860 Nice.

05:34:31.340 Give myself a five.

05:34:31.920 Cool.

05:34:33.300 You should bump that up.

05:34:34.940 Can you go?

05:34:36.280 Me?

05:34:36.800 Yeah.

05:34:37.420 Oh, I always say six.

05:34:38.940 She's a ten.

05:34:39.840 Eight.

05:34:41.400 I give myself a five, yeah.

05:34:45.600 Question.

05:34:46.120 Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?

05:34:48.220 I am engaged to a guy who's shorter than me.

05:34:51.500 In heels?

05:34:52.860 No, he's two inches shorter than me, regularly.

05:34:55.980 Oh, shit.

05:34:57.000 That didn't work.

05:34:59.140 But he doesn't like me to wear heels, which I think is ridiculous, because I love my femininity.

05:35:05.480 I love to wear heels, so I don't like that.

05:35:07.840 I wouldn't.

05:35:08.760 Girl.

05:35:08.960 I wear heels whenever I'm not with him.

05:35:11.500 Let's put it that way.

05:35:13.060 But he doesn't like it.

05:35:14.980 Would you date a bald guy?

05:35:16.380 No, I can't do the bald man.

05:35:17.960 Oh, okay.

05:35:18.860 I can't do the bald man.

05:35:19.600 I was the bald guy.

05:35:20.920 What if he goes bald, like, eventually?

05:35:23.660 Is that a deal breaker?

05:35:24.180 Okay, that's, no, that's different.

05:35:25.960 That's different, because you're like,

05:35:27.160 Like, would he need to get?

05:35:28.320 Some people can really, like, pull off the bald man.

05:35:30.640 We'll go to Turkey, and we'll fix it.

05:35:32.480 We'll fix it.

05:35:33.240 Like, I got you, boo.

05:35:34.340 Like, we'll go to Turkey.

05:35:35.580 But, no, I can't do bald.

05:35:37.160 No.

05:35:37.380 Can't do bald.

05:35:38.120 No, no.

05:35:39.100 Why?

05:35:39.800 Why is that?

05:35:40.440 It gives me the egg.

05:35:41.560 It gives you the egg.

05:35:42.200 It really does.

05:35:43.220 Wait, and so.

05:35:44.140 My dad's bald.

05:35:45.400 Maybe that's why.

05:35:46.160 Hey, my dad.

05:35:46.600 Oh.

05:35:46.940 Maybe that's why.

05:35:47.660 My dad's bald.

05:35:47.880 It's like some kind of.

05:35:49.680 Childhood thing.

05:35:50.300 No.

05:35:50.820 No.

05:35:51.420 I can't do it.

05:35:52.380 No.

05:35:52.780 Shorter, though?

05:35:54.220 I love me a short king.

05:35:55.400 Okay.

05:35:55.800 I love me a short king.

05:35:56.620 I love me a short king.

05:35:58.020 I'm with her on that.

05:35:59.100 I don't know about shortes.

05:36:00.340 Same.

05:36:01.040 I'm 5'10".

05:36:01.900 I'm 5'10".

05:36:05.160 I can't do short.

05:36:06.960 See?

05:36:07.540 There you go.

05:36:08.400 Yeah.

05:36:09.360 Well, I guess.

05:36:10.500 So, okay.

05:36:11.800 You would then assess.

05:36:15.700 You would then assess a guy with a perfect full head of hair is up here, right?

05:36:20.480 Like, there's a hierarchy.

05:36:21.600 Like, full head of hair, up here, bald, like full on bald.

05:36:26.960 Or maybe Larry David.

05:36:28.420 I don't know if you know who that is.

05:36:29.660 No.

05:36:30.160 Of course.

05:36:30.860 I love Larry David.

05:36:32.120 Curb your enthusiasm.

05:36:33.360 It's like amazing.

05:36:33.520 Like, he doesn't shave his head.

05:36:34.680 He's just got, like, the hair on the side.

05:36:36.280 No, I can't.

05:36:36.300 I can't.

05:36:37.140 And he's down here in terms of hair.

05:36:39.400 Like, he's down here.

05:36:40.080 I can't do it.

05:36:40.220 I can't do the no hair.

05:36:41.000 Wait, question.

05:36:41.480 Would you date Larry David?

05:36:43.420 No.

05:36:44.460 I just like him.

05:36:45.640 Who cares?

05:36:46.340 He's rich.

05:36:46.560 I already told you.

05:36:47.340 I told you from the start.

05:36:49.000 I'm like, looks matter to me.

05:36:51.220 Looks do matter.

05:36:51.880 Of course they matter.

05:36:52.960 Oh.

05:36:53.540 Of course they matter.

05:36:54.460 So, some men are better looking than other men.

05:36:56.740 Of course.

05:36:57.480 I mean, duh.

05:36:58.120 Duh, of course, right?

05:37:00.080 Duh, yes.

05:37:00.340 But you could maybe, like, let's say you had a hundred men in a room.

05:37:04.080 Okay.

05:37:04.860 You could maybe.

05:37:05.640 Bring them out.

05:37:06.080 Bring them out.

05:37:08.080 Good song.

05:37:09.020 You could maybe be like, like, if I were to ask you.

05:37:12.580 Yeah.

05:37:12.880 Not rate them.

05:37:13.440 But you could be like, could you put them in order of which one is most attractive?

05:37:17.640 Oh, I see what you're doing here.

05:37:19.980 Could you do that?

05:37:21.220 Yes.

05:37:22.180 Okay.

05:37:22.460 Yes, I could.

05:37:23.400 And so maybe.

05:37:24.420 Yes, I could.

05:37:25.540 A hundred.

05:37:26.120 Well, I mean, it wouldn't exactly work out this way.

05:37:28.200 What are you trying to get at, Brian?

05:37:30.080 But, well, essentially, I'm saying.

05:37:31.500 Where are you trying to go?

05:37:32.140 You're able to establish a hierarchy.

05:37:34.400 You're able to establish this guy's better looking than this guy.

05:37:38.120 Based on my subjective preferences, though.

05:37:40.360 Because, look, right?

05:37:41.100 She just.

05:37:41.680 No.

05:37:42.140 It wouldn't be purely subjective.

05:37:43.520 She just said we're literally the same height.

05:37:45.100 I'm a tall girl.

05:37:46.720 She's also.

05:37:47.240 I'm 5'10 and a half.

05:37:48.240 She's 5'10.

05:37:48.920 And I said, I love me a short king.

05:37:51.080 I literally let a short king put a ring on it.

05:37:53.720 Okay?

05:37:54.920 Amongst, like.

05:37:55.520 What about the baby daddy?

05:37:56.620 Was he a short king?

05:37:57.480 No, he was my height.

05:37:58.940 Okay.

05:37:59.320 My height.

05:38:00.180 But.

05:38:00.940 Maybe.

05:38:01.440 But she won't do a short king.

05:38:03.440 But, see, I can't do bald.

05:38:04.740 So it's, like, interchangeable.

05:38:05.680 It's all subjective.

05:38:07.200 All subjective.

05:38:07.540 Well, yeah, but I would say.

05:38:08.380 Personally, I love my long hair.

05:38:09.680 Maybe that's just because I like emo boys.

05:38:11.180 Hold on.

05:38:11.480 I thought you wanted the other girls to get involved in the convo.

05:38:14.180 I know.

05:38:14.740 I feel like you're equipping.

05:38:16.480 Do you know what a quip is?

05:38:17.260 I feel like you're equipping a little bit.

05:38:19.200 I just wanted to add another conversation.

05:38:21.380 I'm sorry.

05:38:22.200 I'll keep my mouth shut.

05:38:23.080 Well, it's one thing.

05:38:24.040 It's like, okay, you want the other girls to, like, have their time.

05:38:27.200 Be able to participate.

05:38:28.540 But you find the need to, like, quip about.

05:38:31.760 I just call it ad-libbing.

05:38:33.420 It's like somebody says something.

05:38:34.820 I'm like, retweet.

05:38:35.680 I get that.

05:38:36.040 Or, like, she says something.

05:38:36.940 I'm like, yeah.

05:38:37.720 I get that.

05:38:38.240 She says something.

05:38:38.480 I'm like, yeah.

05:38:39.180 You add up all those ad-libs.

05:38:40.600 It ends up being, like, 30 minutes of quips.

05:38:42.660 But, anyways.

05:38:44.800 So, okay.

05:38:46.020 Hey, look.

05:38:46.840 Sorry.

05:38:47.440 If you engaged in the debate earlier, I would have been just like, that's fine.

05:38:51.280 But you're like, you want, hey, move the conversation on.

05:38:54.040 Brian, talk to the other woman.

05:38:55.700 Okay.

05:38:56.120 Well, then maybe reduce the quipping.

05:38:59.180 Anyways.

05:39:00.120 Okay.

05:39:01.040 I'm still here.

05:39:01.940 I have a break.

05:39:02.780 Of course.

05:39:03.860 Saw that coming.

05:39:04.720 A little rage quit again.

05:39:05.980 It's not.

05:39:06.540 I'm just taking a break.

05:39:07.600 I really can't sit in one place for too long.

05:39:09.360 All right.

05:39:09.560 Okay.

05:39:09.720 If you're listening to this.

05:39:10.180 I'm still engaged.

05:39:11.240 I appreciate that.

05:39:12.580 So, ultimately, the point I was trying to make here was, was that you would be able to create

05:39:17.420 a hierarchy.

05:39:18.360 And then, if we were to look at that hierarchy, we would be able to attribute some sort of ranking

05:39:23.980 to the hierarchy.

05:39:25.580 Sure.

05:39:25.900 One, two, three.

05:39:27.840 And it could be the case, for example, it wouldn't be like, well, you know, if it's a one to

05:39:32.740 10 scale, 10% are 10, 10% are nine, 10% are eight.

05:39:36.800 It could be like, you know, there's three who are 10, five who are nine, 10 who are eight,

05:39:46.320 10 who are seven, 20 who are six, 20 who are five, 20 who are four, five who are three,

05:39:52.900 five who are two, one who's one.

05:39:55.360 Okay.

05:39:55.520 It could be something like that, right?

05:39:56.640 Sure.

05:39:57.000 You would be able to rank order it.

05:39:58.120 So, the point is, is that you, you abhor, you abhor the conversation, right?

05:40:04.120 You abhor the question.

05:40:05.740 I find it banal.

05:40:06.960 I find it.

05:40:07.720 Banal.

05:40:07.980 I do.

05:40:08.540 Yes, I do with my vocabulary.

05:40:11.060 No, I do.

05:40:11.760 I find it banal and I just don't, I think there are way better uses of our brain cells.

05:40:18.580 Let's put it that way.

05:40:20.160 Well, I, I guess my objection here is just simply.

05:40:23.040 I mean, look, I know I'm not ugly and I know I'm not Adriana Lima.

05:40:26.760 Like, I was a professional model, a signed model at that.

05:40:29.620 So, I clearly am above average attractiveness.

05:40:33.140 And that's literally all I'm going to say about that.

05:40:36.900 That's it.

05:40:37.440 Okay.

05:40:38.440 Sounds good.

05:40:40.920 We have a chat coming here.

05:40:42.260 A message from the government of Canada.

05:40:44.360 Pastey George donated $200.04.

05:40:48.500 Chair 4, what do you bring to the table?

05:40:51.400 It does not seem like much.

05:40:53.620 Also, you are a 5 on the attractiveness scale of 1 to 10.

05:40:57.940 You won't answer because you do not have much to offer.

05:41:01.100 Neatard.

05:41:02.700 Please.

05:41:04.900 That is objective.

05:41:05.780 And that's why you're behind the screen and I'm in front of it.

05:41:09.080 Oh, shit.

05:41:09.880 Pastey George.

05:41:10.780 Hi.

05:41:11.780 Behind the screen.

05:41:13.620 Why don't you come in front of the screen?

05:41:14.360 Oh, shit.

05:41:14.380 She got you, Pastey George.

05:41:16.120 Why don't you come?

05:41:17.120 Yeah.

05:41:17.580 Did you get paid for your looks ever in your life?

05:41:20.080 I don't think so.

05:41:21.040 Actually, he's a very handsome guy.

05:41:21.900 Okay.

05:41:22.320 Well, he needs to get his eyes checked.

05:41:24.500 He's very tall.

05:41:25.080 Very handsome.

05:41:26.040 Couldn't care less.

05:41:26.780 Huge penis.

05:41:27.540 Could not care.

05:41:28.000 How would you know that?

05:41:29.320 How would you know?

05:41:30.240 Couldn't care less.

05:41:31.080 Wait, wait, wait.

05:41:31.760 He just has big dick energy.

05:41:33.340 Is there something you need to tell us?

05:41:36.040 Yeah, right?

05:41:36.860 Is this like a...

05:41:38.100 Huh?

05:41:38.540 Wait, I have a question.

05:41:40.200 How did you guys know?

05:41:41.040 Has anyone ever noticed how blue Brian's eyes are?

05:41:44.080 Wow.

05:41:45.300 Is there something you need to tell us, Brian?

05:41:47.780 Look, look.

05:41:48.540 They are blue.

05:41:49.520 But I feel like they were more blue when he was younger.

05:41:52.440 It's true.

05:41:53.000 Can we see a picture?

05:41:53.480 I like how you segwayed.

05:41:54.640 They've become colder as I've aged.

05:41:56.280 Can we see a picture?

05:41:56.940 I've aged.

05:41:57.540 Wait, just wait a little bit, Felicity.

05:42:00.400 I know you're trying to goon over my young pictures or whatever.

05:42:02.760 Just wait, okay?

05:42:03.360 We'll get to it later.

05:42:04.380 Look, I've been...

05:42:05.460 Like, I was bullied, okay?

05:42:07.120 Like, since I was a child.

05:42:08.940 Like, like...

05:42:09.440 Well, let's not talk about the table thing.

05:42:12.040 No, but I'm just saying.

05:42:13.220 So, like, this is not new to me.

05:42:14.920 Like, your opinion is totally cool and fine.

05:42:17.940 You can think however you want about my outward appearance.

05:42:21.040 But, like, I don't need anybody's validation for how I feel about myself.

05:42:25.200 Period.

05:42:26.200 I see.

05:42:26.760 Okay.

05:42:28.880 Period.

05:42:29.600 But you also didn't like the question, what you bring to the table.

05:42:34.340 Yeah, I don't like that question.

05:42:34.980 What's wrong with that?

05:42:35.900 What do women bring to the table is my question.

05:42:39.940 I can think of things, but I'm curious what you guys think.

05:42:43.120 You want our children, apparently.

05:42:46.180 Yeah.

05:42:46.900 You've been talking about that for, like, the past.

05:42:48.980 Hey, Mary.

05:42:49.500 Yeah.

05:42:50.020 Quiet back there, please.

05:42:51.400 I know it's not your fault, but you guys don't be whispering back there.

05:42:55.380 Fucking.

05:42:57.840 Fucking and shit.

05:43:03.860 No, I didn't mean it like that.

05:43:05.940 I said fucking, and I didn't have anything to follow it up with.

05:43:10.300 All right.

05:43:12.260 What do women bring to the table?

05:43:14.020 Is that, like, a legitimate question right now?

05:43:16.680 What does anyone bring to the table?

05:43:18.680 We literally are the portals to life.

05:43:22.160 You know that you would not be in existence right now without one of us, correct?

05:43:27.880 Yes, I'm aware.

05:43:29.040 Like, period.

05:43:30.020 What kind of a question is that?

05:43:31.900 No, but I'm a little bit confused.

05:43:33.620 So, like, for example, she doesn't want to have kids.

05:43:37.500 Okay.

05:43:38.680 She's in a relationship.

05:43:39.860 She doesn't plan to have kids at any point.

05:43:41.580 I assume she brings something to the table for her boyfriend to want to be with her unless she is the table.

05:43:47.920 I don't know.

05:43:48.320 But, like, this idea that women, like, that's the ultimate, defeat, or women have children.

05:43:54.660 Are they, first off, are women actually doing a good job of having children?

05:44:00.320 Do you want to be in a relationship with a woman, and why?

05:44:05.280 What?

05:44:06.200 Do you want a man?

05:44:07.340 Do you want a man or a woman, and why would you want a woman?

05:44:10.100 I guess he's asking for, like, what positive traits do you bring to a relationship?

05:44:14.120 Aside from childbirth?

05:44:16.380 Yeah, like, personality traits.

05:44:17.580 Pause, wait.

05:44:17.980 Do you want a man?

05:44:19.120 No, I'm straight.

05:44:20.260 Wait, so then what?

05:44:20.920 Are you straight?

05:44:22.120 Yeah.

05:44:22.680 Is anybody here, like, bi or anything?

05:44:24.160 Just curious.

05:44:24.820 No?

05:44:25.120 Women clearly bring something.

05:44:26.340 Okay, so here's a better way to put it.

05:44:27.220 Yeah, I can articulate it.

05:44:28.180 Here's a better way to put it.

05:44:28.940 What positive characteristics do you have as an individual that you could bring to a partnership?

05:44:35.580 Well, really quick before you answer that question.

05:44:37.620 Okay.

05:44:37.780 You said, like, this women bring children, but okay, how about, like, when a guy is dating

05:44:44.420 an 18, 19-year-old, 20-year-old woman, there's not an expectation that she get pregnant anytime soon.

05:44:50.540 So it's like, what is a woman bringing to the table beyond just children?

05:45:02.020 Femininity.

05:45:03.420 Nurture.

05:45:04.160 Okay.

05:45:04.780 Loyalty.

05:45:05.660 Exactly.

05:45:06.380 Loyalty.

05:45:07.360 Thank you.

05:45:07.780 So intelligence, intellect.

05:45:09.180 Wait, also men bring...

05:45:10.740 Guidance.

05:45:11.860 Insight.

05:45:11.920 Men can bring these things, too.

05:45:13.300 No, no, no.

05:45:13.580 I was going to say men also...

05:45:14.840 Men, it's like, you need men to have children also.

05:45:17.960 Intuition.

05:45:18.400 So men would bring that to the table.

05:45:19.940 Intuition.

05:45:20.140 Yeah.

05:45:20.900 Like, spiritual intuition, once again.

05:45:23.400 Really?

05:45:23.960 Yes.

05:45:24.360 Women bring intuition?

05:45:25.660 Absolutely.

05:45:26.820 Wait, let's test this out.

05:45:28.100 Of course.

05:45:28.800 Who here has dated a bad guy?

05:45:32.780 Show of hands.

05:45:34.020 Bad guy.

05:45:34.720 Yeah.

05:45:35.040 Abuser.

05:45:35.760 Yeah.

05:45:36.200 Narcissistic.

05:45:36.640 Psychopath.

05:45:38.500 Sociopath.

05:45:38.980 Some would say.

05:45:40.320 Some would say.

05:45:40.720 Oh, no.

05:45:41.000 I feel like every girl has, like, I dated a narcissist story.

05:45:43.580 I mean, that doesn't...

05:45:44.380 That intuition.

05:45:45.260 Yeah, that...

05:45:45.760 Intuition.

05:45:46.960 That doesn't negate intuition.

05:45:48.800 Thank you.

05:45:49.160 And I think you can see signs when you're younger and also ignore those signs at the same

05:45:54.120 time, and then when you're older, you learn not to ignore the same thing.

05:45:57.000 But how is a man going to benefit from your intuition?

05:46:01.300 Like, what does that benefit your partner?

05:46:03.380 She has an intuition that he should not date her.

05:46:05.440 Making life choices.

05:46:07.220 I mean, I'm not saying you can't have a great intuition.

05:46:10.220 I'm saying, like, what?

05:46:10.880 Having a solid support system.

05:46:13.900 Why are the majority of men, you know, dealing with loneliness, with higher suicide rates?

05:46:22.100 Well, how is your intuition going to help that?

05:46:24.900 Because you are bringing something that a man does not innately have.

05:46:30.940 That's why.

05:46:31.380 Men don't have an intuition?

05:46:32.280 They have...

05:46:33.340 They operate from a different operating system.

05:46:35.840 They have more logic.

05:46:38.180 We have more spiritual, emotional intuition.

05:46:43.660 That's my take.

05:46:45.400 That's my take.

05:46:49.480 That's my take.

05:46:50.300 I don't know.

05:46:50.760 I mean, I know plenty of women that are like, I'm not spiritual.

05:46:53.520 I don't believe in all that.

05:46:54.220 That's fine.

05:46:54.660 So that doesn't apply to every woman.

05:46:56.680 Are you talking about yourself?

05:46:57.800 I'm speaking...

05:46:58.380 Yeah.

05:46:58.700 Okay.

05:46:58.920 Of myself.

05:46:59.340 Yeah.

05:46:59.860 Mm-hmm.

05:47:01.260 Ultimately, though...

05:47:02.100 Look, if women can ask men what they bring to the table, that's fine.

05:47:05.200 I think it's fine when men ask women what they bring to the table.

05:47:08.480 I think the difference is, is that men tend to better answer the question.

05:47:13.580 What do you bring to the table?

05:47:14.220 Yeah.

05:47:14.520 Answer the question, then.

05:47:15.840 How did I not answer...

05:47:17.060 How about you answer the question first, then?

05:47:17.920 I did answer your question.

05:47:19.860 I thought you hated the question.

05:47:21.420 What do you bring to the table?

05:47:22.100 Oh, I personally...

05:47:23.340 I just answered the question for myself.

05:47:25.380 What do you bring?

05:47:26.120 What do I bring to the table?

05:47:27.400 Yeah.

05:47:27.500 Yeah, sure.

05:47:27.820 I'd be happy to go into that.

05:47:29.240 So, I mean, I think people bring all kinds of different things into a relationship.

05:47:32.080 I think...

05:47:32.580 You.

05:47:33.160 Yeah, I know.

05:47:33.640 I'm going to get to that.

05:47:35.140 So, I think that, obviously, both men and women care about looks.

05:47:38.640 We care about personality.

05:47:39.760 We care about certain things.

05:47:41.380 So, looks-wise, I think I'm pretty average-looking, but I think I do have one or two things in my

05:47:46.020 favor.

05:47:46.960 I'm tall, six foot one, blue eyes.

05:47:49.520 That's probably positive characteristics on looks.

05:47:52.500 But, again, average-looking guy.

05:47:54.260 Don't think it's, like, most of what I'm bringing.

05:47:58.240 The other thing I bring, though, is in terms of my success, I'd probably put myself in top

05:48:07.040 one percent...

05:48:07.880 Top...

05:48:08.440 Well, I guess, are we using percentile or percent?

05:48:11.340 Top 99 percentile in terms of my success.

05:48:15.660 This would mean that I am more so looking for a more traditional dynamic.

05:48:22.500 So, whoever I'm with never have to work a day in their life.

05:48:26.440 Everything will be taken care of.

05:48:28.300 Not to say that I don't have any expectations of a woman.

05:48:30.620 I definitely do.

05:48:33.380 But everything will be taken care of.

05:48:35.180 You might not value that, but there are plenty of women who highly, highly value that.

05:48:39.480 And then the other thing I would say is I have my head on pretty fairly straight.

05:48:43.940 Don't drink.

05:48:44.800 Don't do drugs.

05:48:45.820 Don't smoke.

05:48:46.700 Don't gamble.

05:48:47.520 Don't really participate in any vices.

05:48:50.560 Some women might not care about that, but I have my head on fairly straight.

05:48:54.800 So...

05:48:55.120 All I'm hearing is money and no addictions.

05:48:57.960 And height.

05:48:58.280 So, what else?

05:48:59.780 Oh, yeah.

05:49:00.320 I'd say I'm massive amounts of ambition.

05:49:03.460 I'm very creative.

05:49:04.840 Hard-working.

05:49:05.920 What's that?

05:49:06.560 Hard-working.

05:49:07.060 I've heard you say that before.

05:49:08.160 Yeah, I'm very hard-working.

05:49:09.720 Very ambitious.

05:49:11.520 I'd say I'm generally pretty good leadership.

05:49:16.100 Can I ask you a question?

05:49:18.400 How much of your personal success can you attribute to a woman?

05:49:24.000 I don't really understand the question, but...

05:49:27.100 Are you saying...

05:49:28.580 Zero?

05:49:28.920 I guess.

05:49:29.700 So, your mom having you, raising you, caring for you, you would say that contributed nothing

05:49:37.440 to who you are today.

05:49:38.840 Is that what you're saying?

05:49:39.960 You've totally shoehorned in this.

05:49:42.740 No, I'm just asking.

05:49:43.200 I mean, your question is completely incoherent.

05:49:44.860 You're talking about my success with my business?

05:49:47.680 I'm saying.

05:49:47.880 In terms of my...

05:49:48.760 Hold on.

05:49:49.580 Like, you...

05:49:50.400 Okay, your argument is incoherent, and I'll explain why.

05:49:53.380 Okay.

05:49:54.020 And you wanted to do this, like, straw man, basically.

05:49:56.920 What do you mean?

05:49:57.560 You wanted to do a little gotcha there.

05:49:59.120 I see what you're doing.

05:49:59.820 No, I didn't.

05:50:00.560 No, I'll explain it.

05:50:01.300 I just genuinely want to know.

05:50:02.080 You said, how much of your current material success is related to your mother?

05:50:06.680 Not material.

05:50:07.640 Just personal success in general.

05:50:10.380 Just all of the things that you described.

05:50:11.780 Well, then I would have to say that your parents are, like, probably the number one influence

05:50:14.420 on your life.

05:50:15.520 Okay.

05:50:16.200 But you wanted to not make it about my parents or my mom.

05:50:19.080 You wanted to make it about women in general.

05:50:21.760 So, my parents raising me would entail both my mom and my father.

05:50:25.580 Fair.

05:50:26.080 Okay.

05:50:26.500 Okay.

05:50:26.800 But you're trying to do some gotcha.

05:50:28.480 So, 50% of that?

05:50:28.980 Well, your mom's a woman.

05:50:31.060 So, but however.

05:50:32.100 Did you interpret it that way?

05:50:33.340 Because that's not.

05:50:33.860 That's exactly how I interpreted it.

05:50:35.740 Okay, well.

05:50:36.500 And also, I don't see how it's relevant.

05:50:38.080 How is it relevant?

05:50:39.620 Like, yes, I'm prepared to sit here and say, yes, both my mom and father shaped me.

05:50:45.900 That's all I'm asking.

05:50:46.380 Helped craft me.

05:50:47.540 That's all I'm asking.

05:50:48.600 But, I mean, a lot of it is also, like, I'll give them props.

05:50:52.200 Like, had great parents, wonderful parents.

05:50:54.080 But, I also believe in having my own agency.

05:50:58.940 And I would attribute my success to, look, I had wonderful parents.

05:51:05.200 They brought me into the world.

05:51:06.820 They raised me.

05:51:07.400 They took care of me.

05:51:08.300 Still a fantastic relationship with my parents.

05:51:11.080 They're great.

05:51:11.800 Love them.

05:51:13.060 But, like, in terms of, I don't even know how to quantify this.

05:51:17.880 My parents didn't give me a million dollar loan.

05:51:20.820 Okay.

05:51:21.140 You know, like Trump did.

05:51:22.100 I'm self-made.

05:51:23.940 Okay.

05:51:24.200 And so, perhaps, I don't know, how do we extend this to any other?

05:51:28.980 So, then, by this logic, anybody who's ever successful, ever, what percentage do we attribute that to their parents?

05:51:37.600 I don't know how to.

05:51:39.240 I mean, yes, we all came from someone.

05:51:42.800 I don't, what was the point?

05:51:43.740 That was sort of my basic point.

05:51:45.220 Even if you had shitty parents, that can motivate you.

05:51:48.680 Okay, my dad's an alcoholic.

05:51:52.060 I'm never going to touch alcohol.

05:51:53.400 I'm not going to ever have a sip of alcohol.

05:51:55.280 My dad was, you know, my mom, she was abusive.

05:52:00.580 And I used that pain as motivation to become rich.

05:52:04.280 Okay.

05:52:04.860 So, I don't really understand that.

05:52:06.420 I don't know.

05:52:06.720 I just don't understand the question.

05:52:07.780 The conversation has been totally derailed.

05:52:09.840 We're talking about what you bring to the table.

05:52:11.620 Yeah, I know.

05:52:11.900 And you said what you brought to the table.

05:52:14.160 And it was like, well, all I'm hearing is blank.

05:52:17.440 Yeah, I don't know what that is.

05:52:17.860 It was kind of like belittled your reasons.

05:52:21.860 Oh, all I'm hearing is that you have no addictions and that, or whatever.

05:52:24.980 I didn't say that.

05:52:26.200 I said, your reasons are your reasons.

05:52:27.940 That's all.

05:52:28.360 Uh, yeah.

05:52:33.060 I mean, uh, I mean, I'm just trying to, there's obviously like, I don't know if you guys want

05:52:37.560 me to just like list some of the givens.

05:52:41.800 Like, I don't know.

05:52:42.500 I like treat my girlfriend well and like will care about her and love her.

05:52:49.200 Like, but I feel like that's just like, it's not even worth saying.

05:52:52.540 I'm trying to think of specific things outside of just like the bare minimum givens.

05:52:58.360 Like, so I don't know.

05:53:00.220 Um, well, you, you just listed your positive.

05:53:04.480 There's probably other, I'd say like, I'm like a, maybe a six or seven on the funny scale.

05:53:11.080 But sometimes my humor is like, that was funny.

05:53:16.060 Some people, you know, humor, humor is kind of a, uh, some people might think I'm like

05:53:20.740 fucking Koreans, but I think I'm, uh, probably like slightly above average when it comes to

05:53:25.100 humor and like women value humor.

05:53:27.260 So I don't know.

05:53:28.560 Um, what do you bring to the table?

05:53:31.360 You, you asked me what I bring to the, what do you bring to the table?

05:53:34.920 I know how to communicate.

05:53:36.960 I feel like that's just like given though.

05:53:39.100 No, it is not.

05:53:40.860 It is not a given.

05:53:42.300 Well, no, I am very emotionally intelligent and I'm also intelligent period.

05:53:47.340 I have ambition.

05:53:49.220 Sorry.

05:53:49.580 Have you taken the IQ test?

05:53:51.620 No.

05:53:52.740 Half of those are like fake bull.

05:53:55.920 Um, I am a very nurturing person.

05:53:59.340 I have a lot of goals and ambition.

05:54:02.200 I am a very, yeah.

05:54:04.540 I'm a very, I'm a very caring.

05:54:06.960 Yeah.

05:54:07.220 That, that can be a pro from it.

05:54:08.640 When you say you have goals and ambition, you're talking about your career, right?

05:54:12.280 I'm talking about wanting to make, like, what is your question?

05:54:17.820 You're not making sense.

05:54:18.080 No, when you say you have goals and ambitions, that's related primarily to like education and

05:54:22.980 career, right?

05:54:25.320 Yeah.

05:54:26.180 Yeah.

05:54:26.760 That's, men would not view that as something you bring to the table.

05:54:30.180 That is something I bring to the table.

05:54:32.980 Your perspective and my perspective.

05:54:34.180 I have a Pokemon card collection.

05:54:36.220 I bring that to the table.

05:54:37.240 That is a very different, that is not a comparison.

05:54:39.100 But I don't think like.

05:54:39.800 Women don't give a fuck about, it's not worth anything.

05:54:42.600 Women don't give a fuck about my Pokemon card collection.

05:54:45.040 I don't actually have a Pokemon card collection.

05:54:46.880 But I don't think like men want someone who's like lazy.

05:54:49.380 Like they would want a woman who will.

05:54:51.060 Oh, she can be.

05:54:52.780 Well, I just know, I know a lot of men who wouldn't want someone lazy.

05:54:55.120 Like they think ambitious is a good thing.

05:54:56.920 Like they want to do something for themselves.

05:54:58.580 Men don't care about your money, your career.

05:55:01.480 They don't care.

05:55:01.960 Well, they just want, I don't know who you know.

05:55:04.180 But out of the people I know, yeah, that's a very important factor.

05:55:07.480 So whenever.

05:55:08.640 All the frat boys care.

05:55:10.200 I don't care about frat boys.

05:55:11.860 Oh yeah, man.

05:55:12.660 She's a, she's a STEM major.

05:55:14.660 Yeah.

05:55:15.360 That's.

05:55:16.020 Oh my God.

05:55:16.480 They don't care.

05:55:17.000 That intelligence is hot.

05:55:17.920 Yes, intelligence is hot.

05:55:18.880 Do you all agree?

05:55:19.340 Yes, being intelligent is hot.

05:55:21.400 But your ambition and the money that you're going to reap from said ambition.

05:55:24.460 I'm not talking about money.

05:55:25.920 What about Ben Shapiro?

05:55:27.440 He brags about how his wife is a doctor all the time.

05:55:33.160 He's successful.

05:55:33.880 Okay.

05:55:35.180 Uh, sure.

05:55:35.980 His wife is a doctor.

05:55:36.980 It's a running joke.

05:55:38.160 Yeah.

05:55:38.340 I'm familiar with that.

05:55:39.800 Um, again, you can point to the, uh, the exception to the rule, but I think.

05:55:44.500 Yeah, it's not number one.

05:55:45.480 I'm just saying like, I feel like the type of men.

05:55:46.900 It's a factor.

05:55:47.500 That I go for, I'm probably guessing that she goes for, like they want ambitious, like

05:55:50.840 they like that we're ambitious.

05:55:52.120 And that's what they'll tell you because feminism has sold you on a lie that you must put career

05:55:58.500 above all else.

05:55:59.560 That's not what we're doing at all.

05:56:01.300 I'm telling you your, your peers, even if they're your friends are going to be terrified to

05:56:06.040 ever challenge any of the mainstream narrative related to this.

05:56:09.960 I'm telling you if, if I don't know if you have any honest male friends.

05:56:14.320 Well, there's two things here.

05:56:15.440 There's your male friends.

05:56:16.480 And then there's the guy who's the guys who you're dating.

05:56:19.580 I'm telling you, I'm telling you, especially living in the, in the California, living in

05:56:23.580 a liberal area, going to a liberal college.

05:56:26.280 Trust me.

05:56:27.320 Uh, men are really uncomfortable being honest.

05:56:30.440 I'm telling you men are really uncomfortable actually even putting forth, even like milquetoast

05:56:36.220 conservative positions, but we're 20 years older than me.

05:56:39.980 You don't know.

05:56:40.800 There's 18 year olds who are more conservative than me.

05:56:43.140 Exactly who I'm around.

05:56:44.300 You don't know what our generation is like, and you don't know who I surround myself with.

05:56:49.940 I, well, I think it's nurturing.

05:56:52.120 Well, I think it's sure.

05:56:53.420 That's fine.

05:56:53.740 I think it's nurture and nature.

05:56:55.600 So I think just, you can say that there's a nurture that's occurring where these men are

05:56:59.640 like basically brainwashed into believing this sort of thing.

05:57:02.980 But I would say that if we're having a conversation about nature, not nurture, then men don't

05:57:09.940 really care about the intellect is different than like your career.

05:57:13.820 And also here's the other thing I would say.

05:57:16.500 Do you think men lie?

05:57:18.600 Everyone lies.

05:57:19.640 Like, let me ask you a question.

05:57:21.200 Let's say you as a woman or any woman is like really, really big on like college and really

05:57:29.480 big on her career.

05:57:30.720 And that's her primary focus.

05:57:32.760 Do you think if, uh, what do you think if a guy's like trying to have sex with her, you

05:57:38.580 think it's going to help him to be like, honestly, I like your personality.

05:57:44.740 I think you're attractive.

05:57:45.980 Don't give a fuck about your career.

05:57:47.580 You think that's going to help him get laid?

05:57:49.120 I'm not trying to get with someone who's just trying to have sex.

05:57:51.320 I want a relationship.

05:57:52.360 But the point is, is that men, like, for example, if a girl has tattoos and the guy

05:57:56.540 doesn't like tattoos and it's not going to help him, then he's not going to get with

05:58:00.960 her.

05:58:01.840 If he doesn't like the tattoos, men will, men will sleep with women that don't meet

05:58:08.040 certain, certain factors of their criteria.

05:58:12.020 Okay.

05:58:12.740 Well, she's like more liberal in a liberal area.

05:58:15.460 I think liberal men actually do care if a woman has a job.

05:58:18.740 Cause I think even if let's go 50, 50, you have to work.

05:58:22.000 I work.

05:58:22.540 I don't want to provide for a woman.

05:58:24.180 But you're thinking like ambition as just like career.

05:58:27.400 Like we're just saying like, we want to do something with our lives.

05:58:30.620 Like we are striving to do something better for ourselves.

05:58:33.860 But even that men, that doesn't.

05:58:35.660 So if we're talking, I'm, I'm, that's good for you.

05:58:38.820 Like, I think it's fantastic.

05:58:40.180 Like you're just saying like, oh, we're putting our career over everything.

05:58:42.360 Like you're making me seem like we're so ambitious that like, but I'm not saying it's

05:58:45.780 bad for you.

05:58:46.740 Like, I'm not saying it's bad for you guys.

05:58:48.460 That's great.

05:58:49.080 Fantastic.

05:58:49.640 It's good for my partner.

05:58:51.240 Uh, except I would think that my boyfriend in 2025 wants to be the only person bringing

05:58:58.960 money to the table and I can just spend whatever I want whenever.

05:59:03.420 No, they want someone who's also contributing.

05:59:07.260 That might be the economic reality.

05:59:09.240 But what I'm talking about here is attraction and it doesn't, I don't think it's an attraction

05:59:16.140 trigger in men.

05:59:17.960 Men don't care.

05:59:19.520 Like they might care from a pragmatic economic financial perspective.

05:59:23.640 Like shit rent's expensive, but not like I'm more attracted to that woman because of

05:59:31.280 her career.

05:59:31.860 Whereas I would argue you look at hyper six, like status, for example, status can do a

05:59:37.800 lot of heavy lifting for a man.

05:59:39.420 If he's rich and he has status, it can do a lot of heavy lifting.

05:59:41.960 But like, for example, Beyonce billionaire, I think, uh, Beyonce is a billionaire, massive

05:59:48.860 amounts of status.

05:59:49.700 One of the most popular music artists of all time.

05:59:52.500 You put her in a club next to like some batty 21 year old who has no money.

06:00:00.200 I'm telling you the dude, the guys in the club aren't looking at Beyonce.

06:00:04.380 Like, well, I can promise you they are looking at Beyonce.

06:00:07.240 Well, if they, if you, if they're going to pick, they're picking the 20 year old, 21

06:00:12.880 year old.

06:00:13.560 I don't agree with that.

06:00:14.880 They are a lot of young guys.

06:00:16.380 They like the cougars nowadays.

06:00:18.200 I'm just, I'm just saying, look, genuinely speaking, I'm telling you, they really do.

06:00:23.040 Yeah.

06:00:23.880 The times have changed.

06:00:25.280 Honestly, they have.

06:00:26.300 But so I kind of associate like intelligence also with ambition.

06:00:29.920 Like if you're so intelligent, I feel like you would want to do something with that intelligence

06:00:34.600 and therefore you're trying to do something with your life.

06:00:37.500 And that kind of equals like ambition.

06:00:39.140 Like if you're saying like, oh, like men don't like women who are ambition, you're basically

06:00:42.920 saying like, they don't like women who are intelligent.

06:00:44.760 It's just not part of the equation.

06:00:46.760 I'm not saying it's wrong that you're ambitious.

06:00:49.260 My, my primary argument here is that it's great for you if you're ambitious, wonderful,

06:00:55.480 but.

06:00:57.720 A guy's not going to be attracted to someone who's lazy.

06:01:00.220 If you just lay around and you don't do anything, you're not going to like that.

06:01:03.880 Well.

06:01:04.100 So I, this question, what do you bring to the table?

06:01:07.360 The only reason that I don't like it, and I don't know if this is the reason that you

06:01:10.280 don't like it is because every time that I have been asked this question, it had to do

06:01:13.780 with my finances and my career.

06:01:16.000 And that was why I didn't like to have that question asked.

06:01:19.140 Yeah.

06:01:19.380 Oh, well that's, I mean.

06:01:20.540 Yeah.

06:01:20.860 No, no.

06:01:21.320 She's right.

06:01:21.900 I would agree with you on that.

06:01:23.240 Yes.

06:01:23.640 Yeah.

06:01:24.000 But then that's a guy who actually cares about the finances or whatever.

06:01:27.940 I would agree with you on that.

06:01:29.180 Yes.

06:01:29.660 To her point.

06:01:30.480 Yes.

06:01:32.780 Generally, generally speaking though, even young guys.

06:01:35.960 It's not a, it's really not a factor.

06:01:40.060 It doesn't make you more attractive.

06:01:41.340 I mean, attraction comes first.

06:01:43.260 It comes first for women as well, but that's not the only thing that anyone looks for in

06:01:48.880 a relationship.

06:01:49.760 Well, okay.

06:01:50.500 So do you guys think there's perfect in terms of what men want, what women want?

06:01:55.160 It's just men want the exact same things as women.

06:01:58.400 No.

06:01:58.860 There's, is it fair to say that there's differences between what men find attractive, what women

06:02:03.440 find attractive?

06:02:04.320 Absolutely.

06:02:04.580 Right.

06:02:04.760 So I think in this specific regard, I believe in asymmetry exists.

06:02:08.820 I think women place way more value.

06:02:11.600 I'm not saying it's the only thing.

06:02:13.100 I'm not saying women are gold diggers.

06:02:14.400 I'm not saying any of that.

06:02:15.520 Women place more value on status.

06:02:17.400 They place more value on ambition.

06:02:19.960 They place more value on, on money, et cetera, et cetera.

06:02:23.340 Yeah, absolutely.

06:02:24.340 Men care far less.

06:02:26.980 That is true.

06:02:28.020 That is true.

06:02:28.740 Men are extremely visual and women, you know, I mean, once again, things are,

06:02:34.760 are definitely changing.

06:02:36.240 But yes, fundamentally, I think women do tend to like men who are masculine or exhibit

06:02:44.100 masculine qualities who want to lead, provide, protect.

06:02:47.080 And I think you're one of those guys.

06:02:48.320 I mean, you just said like, you know, my, my woman is not going to have to worry about

06:02:52.600 anything.

06:02:52.920 Like to me, that shows that you're a masculine man.

06:02:56.180 And you want to lead your woman.

06:02:57.840 You want to provide for her.

06:02:58.700 You want to protect her.

06:02:59.740 So I agree with that wholeheartedly.

06:03:02.980 Okay, cool.

06:03:04.000 Uh, we have a chat coming in here from our good Canadian message from the government of

06:03:08.160 Canada.

06:03:08.540 Here we go.

06:03:08.980 Pasty George donated $200 and four cents.

06:03:13.160 Wow.

06:03:13.560 Therefore, why would I waste my valuable time showing my face to used up 304s with high

06:03:19.920 body count, especially to feminist ones?

06:03:23.540 I had to work hard for my money and never lived on easy mode until now.

06:03:28.820 Good for you.

06:03:31.020 Do you want a cookie?

06:03:32.560 All right, we have multiple, uh, okay.

06:03:36.100 Boy, bye.

06:03:37.040 Oh, do we, we have the gender swaps.

06:03:39.160 Do you have them pulled?

06:03:42.380 All right, really quick.

06:03:43.380 We're going to go around the table.

06:03:44.580 Uh, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time?

06:03:48.780 In 10 years time?

06:03:50.040 Yeah.

06:03:50.240 Better looking in 10 years time.

06:03:51.400 Oh, I don't know.

06:03:52.500 Wait, let's get, uh, you want to beckon her back on this?

06:03:56.240 No.

06:03:56.520 Uh, no.

06:03:57.560 Okay.

06:03:57.760 Better looking in 10 years time.

06:03:59.380 Same.

06:04:00.540 Okay.

06:04:01.040 Better looking.

06:04:02.100 No.

06:04:03.000 No?

06:04:03.600 And you're, uh, 36.

06:04:05.060 Were you better looking at 26?

06:04:07.220 No, I wasn't actually.

06:04:08.760 So better looking now?

06:04:09.340 Yeah.

06:04:09.560 Okay.

06:04:09.940 Uh, better looking in 10 years time?

06:04:11.740 No.

06:04:12.860 Okay.

06:04:13.600 Uh, better looking in 10 years time, better looking?

06:04:16.220 Yes.

06:04:16.900 Okay.

06:04:17.260 Uh, how about 20 years time, 40?

06:04:20.600 Um, no, but I don't think that'll, there'll be, um, like big decline.

06:04:28.000 Not a big decline.

06:04:28.740 Okay.

06:04:29.020 What about you?

06:04:29.540 Based off my mom.

06:04:30.500 33, better 10 years?

06:04:31.960 Like fine wine.

06:04:34.420 Okay.

06:04:35.320 Uh, 20 years?

06:04:36.880 You are a 10 girl.

06:04:38.920 53.

06:04:41.680 Um, I'm going to consistently stay just like super 10 all the way through.

06:04:47.240 Still 10.

06:04:47.600 Oh yeah, I didn't.

06:04:48.220 I should have dug in on the 10 thing a little bit.

06:04:50.880 Um, and then better looking now or better looking 10 years ago at 23?

06:04:55.880 Um, at 23.

06:04:58.100 Yeah.

06:04:58.440 Woo.

06:04:58.820 No.

06:04:59.600 Wait, so better looking now at 33.

06:05:01.000 Yeah.

06:05:01.140 Will you be better looking at 43 than you were at 23?

06:05:04.540 Um, were you like, yeah, because I was strung out at 23.

06:05:07.960 Well, just your looks though.

06:05:09.740 Just your looks.

06:05:10.780 Like if you weren't strung out.

06:05:12.940 Um, I, I, I feel so.

06:05:15.540 Listen, I'm going to explain that the 10 is going to be a 10 from when I was born to when

06:05:19.580 I go into heaven.

06:05:22.140 All right.

06:05:22.440 Because I see you.

06:05:25.200 Yes.

06:05:25.520 I'm going into it.

06:05:26.540 You're going to ask anyway.

06:05:27.800 So I'm just going to explain.

06:05:28.940 I'm created in the perfect image of God.

06:05:31.000 Okay.

06:05:31.720 That's it.

06:05:33.480 Um, okay.

06:05:35.740 Would you, um, so you don't care when it comes to like who you would date though.

06:05:38.740 Do you not care about looks?

06:05:40.480 He's going to be a perfect image of God too.

06:05:42.340 And he's going to be the one that God chooses to send to me.

06:05:45.200 So are you going to date an obese four foot 11?

06:05:47.920 Listen, you, you, my, my, my,

06:05:49.580 my track record, I, I've never had, I've never had a type.

06:05:56.400 I mean, I've had some questionable ones, so we'll see.

06:05:59.880 Uh, and then you better looking in 10 years time.

06:06:03.480 Me?

06:06:04.320 I feel like I'm going to be uglier in 10 years time.

06:06:06.600 Okay.

06:06:06.840 Is that the question?

06:06:07.800 Yeah.

06:06:08.060 That's the question.

06:06:08.540 Oh yeah.

06:06:09.100 No, my, my lineage ages horribly did George donated $200 and four cents.

06:06:15.200 After this segment, especially the young ones don't care about women.

06:06:19.580 Women's degrees, ambitions, and careers.

06:06:22.200 She likes it.

06:06:22.700 She likes it.

06:06:22.720 She likes this.

06:06:25.420 Only brainwashed simple libtard men do.

06:06:28.620 People are stupid.

06:06:30.040 Word.

06:06:30.880 Oh my God.

06:06:31.720 Look, it's just a.

06:06:32.880 He has a lot of time on his hands.

06:06:34.380 And a lot of bread too.

06:06:35.500 Let me just tell you.

06:06:37.080 Oh my God.

06:06:37.900 You have nothing better to do on a Sunday.

06:06:40.600 There is nothing better to do than watch the whatever podcast.

06:06:44.300 For eight hours?

06:06:44.400 Oh my God.

06:06:45.420 It's each their own, I guess.

06:06:46.300 And you must have a lot of money to spend on this.

06:06:48.960 I don't think he's interested.

06:06:50.140 Sorry.

06:06:51.140 I'll just drop in my cash.

06:06:52.300 Interested in what?

06:06:53.280 I'm definitely not interested in him.

06:06:55.040 Why not?

06:06:55.700 He's so amazing.

06:06:56.540 Absolutely not.

06:06:57.400 Never.

06:06:57.960 It seems things are a little.

06:06:59.060 Never.

06:06:59.640 Things are a bit on the fence with your fiancee, you know?

06:07:02.580 Even so, never.

06:07:03.700 Uh, okay.

06:07:05.820 Look, ultimately, you might hate to hear it.

06:07:09.200 Um, it's an uncomfortable truth maybe for, for women.

06:07:13.120 Uh, there's not, like, because I think women will attribute how they feel towards men and

06:07:17.800 think men must feel like there's reciprocity, there's symmetry.

06:07:23.640 There's not.

06:07:24.480 Men don't care about your money.

06:07:26.240 They don't care about your, your career.

06:07:29.320 They don't care.

06:07:30.140 They don't care.

06:07:31.720 From an attraction point of view.

06:07:33.700 Now, they could care about, well, nah, I won't get into that, but, um, guys, we got

06:07:39.520 a fun segment coming up here.

06:07:41.100 We have put all of you through AI.

06:07:43.780 We've put all of you through AI.

06:07:45.220 Oh, God.

06:07:46.180 And we've aged, advanced all of you, although most of you don't think you're going to be,

06:07:50.020 so whatever.

06:07:50.860 Um, but we'll do it anyways, just because it's fun.

06:07:53.500 Oh, no.

06:07:54.340 Nick, we're going to blast through it.

06:07:55.780 If you can pull it up for me, good sir.

06:07:57.480 Oh, no.

06:07:59.040 All right.

06:07:59.580 Go ahead.

06:08:00.020 Oh.

06:08:00.640 Oh, God.

06:08:01.020 You know what?

06:08:01.820 It checks out.

06:08:02.980 It checks out.

06:08:04.200 That's what my grandma looks like.

06:08:05.960 I'm not going to look at this.

06:08:07.080 That is exactly what my grandma looks like.

06:08:09.380 All right.

06:08:09.580 Next.

06:08:12.100 Oh, my God.

06:08:13.240 That's low.

06:08:13.880 Yeah, you're cute.

06:08:15.580 Yeah.

06:08:17.800 Okay.

06:08:18.580 For her, yeah.

06:08:19.500 You know what?

06:08:20.280 Slay queen.

06:08:21.600 Guilt status.

06:08:23.120 I took some milf.

06:08:24.340 All right.

06:08:25.080 Guilt.

06:08:25.480 Oh.

06:08:26.780 Who said that?

06:08:28.940 All right.

06:08:29.460 Next.

06:08:31.060 Agent, like, find one.

06:08:32.340 Oh, my God.

06:08:32.960 Okay.

06:08:33.360 Here you go.

06:08:34.400 It's pretty good.

06:08:35.360 Yeah.

06:08:35.560 Yeah.

06:08:36.080 Not bad.

06:08:37.860 You don't like it?

06:08:38.340 I'm not going to look at it.

06:08:38.940 All right.

06:08:38.960 She doesn't like it.

06:08:39.640 Next.

06:08:39.820 You're going to be prettier than that.

06:08:41.440 I'm not looking.

06:08:42.080 Oh, my God.

06:08:43.840 Guilt.

06:08:44.460 Aw.

06:08:45.040 Guilt.

06:08:45.520 It's not terrible.

06:08:46.520 That one's good.

06:08:47.040 That one's good, yeah.

06:08:47.940 Thank you.

06:08:48.840 Totally.

06:08:49.280 Guilt.

06:08:50.340 Next.

06:08:50.980 I'm going to still get it.

06:08:53.000 Okay.

06:08:54.060 Guilt's across the board.

06:08:55.180 Oh, yeah.

06:08:56.400 Hillary Clinton over here.

06:08:57.940 No, she looks like, what's the one in Barbie?

06:09:00.580 Margot Robbie.

06:09:01.220 Yeah.

06:09:01.580 Yeah.

06:09:01.860 Yeah, yeah.

06:09:03.140 I guess, yeah.

06:09:03.700 Do you get tired of hearing that?

06:09:04.980 It's always, hi, Barbie.

06:09:07.120 Oh, okay.

06:09:07.840 It's the line.

06:09:08.680 It's the line.

06:09:09.480 Very original.

06:09:10.780 Does it get tiring, though?

06:09:12.480 No.

06:09:12.920 It's kind of nice.

06:09:13.780 It's a compliment.

06:09:14.840 I like how tall guys fold.

06:09:16.440 You play basketball?

06:09:17.800 Yeah, that happens, too.

06:09:18.980 Volleyball basketball.

06:09:19.860 Uh, next.

06:09:20.840 Oh, my God.

06:09:22.600 Guilt.

06:09:22.880 Oh, that's good.

06:09:23.400 Guilt's across the board.

06:09:24.980 Cute.

06:09:25.900 Cute.

06:09:26.500 Crazy.

06:09:27.160 Next.

06:09:29.380 Aw.

06:09:30.780 Cute.

06:09:32.560 This is how none of us are going to look, by the way.

06:09:35.060 With plastic surgery and, like.

06:09:37.200 Ew.

06:09:37.640 Don't get plastic surgery.

06:09:38.680 We're going to be looking fine as hell.

06:09:40.620 No, don't do that shit.

06:09:41.920 We will.

06:09:42.660 I was planning on living to see 20, let alone, what is it, 80?

06:09:46.140 Look at Kris Jenner.

06:09:47.320 She looks incredible.

06:09:48.980 And faceless.

06:09:49.980 She looks incredible, though.

06:09:51.240 Yeah.

06:09:51.660 Like, come on.

06:09:52.200 Lindsay Lohan.

06:09:53.340 Incredible.

06:09:54.500 Come on.

06:09:55.140 Just age gracefully.

06:09:56.700 I don't know.

06:09:57.040 I just accept it.

06:09:58.000 Accept it.

06:09:58.540 Accept the wrinkles.

06:09:59.400 Wait, why are we doing this?

06:09:59.900 If I have the money.

06:10:00.880 Next.

06:10:01.140 It feels weird.

06:10:02.600 Aw.

06:10:03.200 Cute.

06:10:04.680 Okay.

06:10:05.460 Ex-cop.

06:10:06.220 Lunch lady.

06:10:07.060 Yeah.

06:10:08.920 All right.

06:10:10.200 Oh.

06:10:10.900 Next.

06:10:12.100 Next.

06:10:12.800 Wait.

06:10:13.120 Where's you, Brian?

06:10:14.120 It's coming.

06:10:14.760 It's coming.

06:10:15.420 Hell yeah.

06:10:15.900 Okay.

06:10:16.960 Oh.

06:10:17.760 Cute.

06:10:18.000 Next.

06:10:18.760 Oh, yeah.

06:10:19.100 It's like fine wine.

06:10:20.020 Oh.

06:10:20.540 That checks out.

06:10:21.580 Oh.

06:10:21.980 That checks out.

06:10:23.140 Sexy.

06:10:23.880 Where's the other one?

06:10:24.780 I like the other one better.

06:10:26.420 I don't like that one.

06:10:27.300 You still have those bright blue eyes, Brian.

06:10:29.520 They screw me over, bro.

06:10:30.120 You look like Santa.

06:10:30.720 Find the fucking, no, you don't have to find it.

06:10:32.380 That's accurate.

06:10:32.980 He looks like Santa.

06:10:33.640 All right.

06:10:33.660 Listen.

06:10:34.980 Like a cute.

06:10:35.660 And now, the next AI we've done, we've gender swapped all of you.

06:10:39.600 Oh, my God.

06:10:40.560 Let's go.

06:10:41.140 We've made all of you men.

06:10:42.560 Ew.

06:10:42.960 Made all of you men.

06:10:43.800 I'm already like half a dude anyways.

06:10:45.540 Let's do it.

06:10:46.520 All right.

06:10:46.820 So, um.

06:10:47.660 Fuck yeah.

06:10:48.740 You ready, Nick?

06:10:50.580 Okay.

06:10:51.560 All right.

06:10:53.340 Oh.

06:10:53.760 What?

06:10:54.960 No.

06:10:56.280 Ah.

06:10:57.260 For real?

06:10:58.680 For real?

06:10:59.660 For real?

06:11:00.680 Wait, run that button.

06:11:02.340 Hold on.

06:11:02.760 I was trying to find something here.

06:11:06.960 Wait, there's.

06:11:08.440 Ah, whatever.

06:11:11.580 Maybe Nick hide us a little bit.

06:11:13.140 He could get it.

06:11:13.740 Oh, yeah.

06:11:14.540 He cute.

06:11:15.180 My brother do not.

06:11:15.920 He's cute.

06:11:16.980 I have a twin, so let's see.

06:11:18.500 He's chopped as fuck.

06:11:19.820 I don't know what y'all talking about.

06:11:21.160 He's cute.

06:11:21.640 If you're single, would you date the male version of you?

06:11:23.840 Absolutely not, bro.

06:11:26.220 Is that for real what I'm looking at?

06:11:27.660 Yeah.

06:11:28.020 Oh, I see what's going on.

06:11:32.300 Oh, how adorable you.

06:11:34.060 I'll let him hit.

06:11:35.180 I'll let him hit.

06:11:35.740 Does your twin brother look like him?

06:11:36.740 Not at all.

06:11:38.440 Would you, if you were single, would you date the male version?

06:11:40.760 Wait, pause.

06:11:41.200 Let me see again.

06:11:41.820 Sure.

06:11:42.020 Super cute.

06:11:46.160 Maybe.

06:11:47.060 Maybe.

06:11:47.600 Okay.

06:11:47.860 Yeah.

06:11:48.140 I don't love the hair.

06:11:49.100 All right.

06:11:51.020 Next.

06:11:55.340 Would you date the male?

06:11:56.620 No.

06:11:57.440 Not bad, right?

06:11:58.340 He's good looking.

06:11:59.160 No?

06:11:59.480 You wouldn't date, you only date white guys or what's going on?

06:12:02.440 What?

06:12:02.780 No.

06:12:03.800 What?

06:12:04.240 What?

06:12:05.640 No.

06:12:06.040 I can't even say what my boyfriend was.

06:12:08.880 Is it, is he white?

06:12:10.360 I mean, he is white.

06:12:11.140 Hey!

06:12:12.240 He knew.

06:12:13.000 Oh, shit.

06:12:13.260 That's what I knew.

06:12:15.160 Oh, shit.

06:12:16.040 Okay.

06:12:16.820 That's cool.

06:12:17.660 Next.

06:12:20.100 Hey!

06:12:21.200 No.

06:12:22.680 You wouldn't date the male version of you?

06:12:24.260 Honestly, he looks Middle Eastern, so.

06:12:27.020 He's like Gumby.

06:12:27.920 He looks.

06:12:28.340 For some reason.

06:12:28.780 He looks sort of like my, I don't know, a little bit, but way better looking.

06:12:33.420 So, maybe.

06:12:33.920 Oh, okay.

06:12:34.380 Yeah, I probably would.

06:12:35.360 Oh, there you go.

06:12:35.820 All right, next.

06:12:37.160 I don't like blondes.

06:12:37.840 He might be a giga-chad.

06:12:39.440 You don't like blondes?

06:12:40.240 I don't like blondes, so this is a problem.

06:12:41.880 Do you like white guys?

06:12:42.980 Huh?

06:12:43.440 White guys?

06:12:45.260 Most guys I've dated have been, like, Spanish.

06:12:48.220 Yeah.

06:12:49.080 Okay.

06:12:49.900 Italian.

06:12:50.600 Lots of Italians.

06:12:51.400 All right, let's see.

06:12:53.680 Okay, well, the eye got a little fucked up there, but assume he, his eye's normal, I

06:12:57.900 guess.

06:12:58.120 He looks very, yeah.

06:12:58.420 Good-looking guy.

06:12:59.080 It's a good-looking guy.

06:12:59.640 Yeah, I don't date him.

06:13:00.560 Would you date the male version of you?

06:13:02.500 Yeah.

06:13:03.240 Why not?

06:13:03.480 But you don't like blondes, though?

06:13:04.540 I don't like blondes.

06:13:05.480 Probably not.

06:13:06.360 But you'll give him a pass.

06:13:07.960 He kind of looks like a jerk.

06:13:10.740 Not gonna lie.

06:13:12.300 He looks very Eastern.

06:13:13.180 European.

06:13:13.540 He looks like his name's like-

06:13:14.360 He looks super Eastern European.

06:13:15.900 It's like Kyle.

06:13:16.780 He kind of looks gay.

06:13:18.080 Yeah.

06:13:18.720 A little bit, you know?

06:13:19.740 It's the blonde.

06:13:20.780 It's the frosty tips, you know?

06:13:22.720 He does.

06:13:22.940 Nothing wrong with that.

06:13:24.000 It's a little Justin Timberlake moment there.

06:13:26.980 Do girls ever get frustrated?

06:13:28.320 Like, you meet a guy, and you're like, damn, he's so handsome, and then you're like-

06:13:32.240 Worst personality?

06:13:33.620 Yes.

06:13:33.840 Oh, oh.

06:13:34.220 You know what I mean?

06:13:34.720 All the time.

06:13:35.360 Gay wasted potential.

06:13:36.400 Gay guys, yeah.

06:13:37.400 Gay guys are the finest.

06:13:39.340 Like, you see something-

06:13:39.880 Gay guys are in shape.

06:13:41.100 He's good-looking, and you're like, ah, he's gay.

06:13:42.140 I have the best look with bi men.

06:13:44.060 French charm.

06:13:44.520 Because they're like, damn, I like men.

06:13:45.640 And I love men.

06:13:46.580 Oh, he's gorgeous.

06:13:47.480 All right.

06:13:47.800 Next.

06:13:48.080 Get one combination.

06:13:50.320 Ooh.

06:13:50.620 Okay.

06:13:51.040 You.

06:13:51.780 Would you-

06:13:52.680 Yeah, why not?

06:13:54.560 Okay.

06:13:55.320 All right.

06:13:56.260 Chiseled jawline there.

06:13:57.860 Yeah.

06:13:58.420 Chiseled jawline.

06:13:59.020 All right.

06:13:59.480 They made all of this, like, bearded.

06:14:00.440 Next.

06:14:03.080 Oh, wow.

06:14:03.820 I don't know.

06:14:04.560 Okay.

06:14:04.700 They did you so dirty on that one.

06:14:07.140 AI needs to move.

06:14:09.100 AI is bad on that.

06:14:10.160 They gave him, like, a cleft lip.

06:14:11.900 They did her so dirty on that one.

06:14:15.800 He looks like Kamzat a little bit.

06:14:19.420 You know what I mean?

06:14:20.080 Kamzat, Kamayev, UFC fighter.

06:14:22.940 What do you do?

06:14:23.720 I like Dears.

06:14:24.160 Yours was the cutest.

06:14:25.240 Do you have a preference?

06:14:26.340 Do you like white guys, black guys?

06:14:28.220 I don't have a preference.

06:14:29.280 You'll date anybody?

06:14:30.560 Okay.

06:14:31.000 I think just a height preference.

06:14:32.440 Okay.

06:14:32.660 Just a little taller.

06:14:33.740 All right.

06:14:34.320 Next.

06:14:36.840 Okay.

06:14:37.400 Oh.

06:14:38.840 Okay.

06:14:39.460 Would you date him?

06:14:40.540 Yes, because I almost have.

06:14:42.540 Have.

06:14:43.760 He looks like one of the guys that I've dated.

06:14:45.980 It is Florida.

06:14:46.560 That's so funny.

06:14:47.820 You dated your brother?

06:14:49.920 No.

06:14:50.880 You said you.

06:14:52.820 No.

06:14:53.380 Like, that person.

06:14:54.760 That guy.

06:14:55.360 I have dated that person.

06:14:56.940 Oh, shit.

06:14:57.520 Before.

06:14:58.000 Maybe you guys might be related, though.

06:14:59.380 You might want to.

06:14:59.780 Yeah, that's weird.

06:15:00.620 You should do a DNA test before you.

06:15:02.200 Oh, my God.

06:15:03.940 I got dark.

06:15:04.720 Oh.

06:15:05.460 The rest, I guess.

06:15:06.560 There's more.

06:15:07.320 Next.

06:15:08.760 Okay.

06:15:09.140 Hey, Felicity.

06:15:09.980 Not bad.

06:15:10.460 Felicity's been worse, right?

06:15:12.700 Yeah, he was cute.

06:15:13.360 Yeah, he's cute.

06:15:14.180 You don't really?

06:15:15.480 No, he's cute.

06:15:15.680 His hair's not all fucked up like it usually is.

06:15:18.520 I guess you're her.

06:15:19.660 He's cute.

06:15:20.660 Really?

06:15:22.260 That's creepy.

06:15:23.040 Okay.

06:15:24.080 Next.

06:15:25.360 There we go.

06:15:27.140 Yeah, I would date myself.

06:15:28.680 If I was.

06:15:29.300 Yeah?

06:15:30.340 Well, not myself, but I would date her, I guess.

06:15:33.300 Yeah.

06:15:33.780 Yeah, sure.

06:15:34.840 Let's do it.

06:15:36.060 I feel like you're using a different app for you.

06:15:38.620 That's what I'm asking.

06:15:39.420 Yeah.

06:15:39.640 I think you're cheating.

06:15:43.660 I mean, to be fair, though, it has to make up for, like, the other one.

06:15:47.720 The age-advance one was way more favorable for you guys and really harsh.

06:15:52.160 Not really.

06:15:52.680 Really harsh on me, you know what I mean?

06:15:54.460 A message from the government of Canada.

06:15:56.400 Oh, my God.

06:15:56.960 Pasty George donated $200.

06:15:59.520 Yeah, thank you, bro.

06:16:00.560 Keep spending that money, honey.

06:16:02.040 They love the messages.

06:16:03.100 If we were the last man and woman on Earth, I would ditch her because she's a strong, independent

06:16:10.400 woman who doesn't need a man.

06:16:11.580 Oh, shit.

06:16:12.080 L-O-L.

06:16:13.880 What?

06:16:14.520 I'm not listening.

06:16:15.700 Hmm?

06:16:16.440 Ha-ha.

06:16:17.000 Why are you?

06:16:17.620 He keeps spending his money.

06:16:19.160 So, keep spending your money on me, honey.

06:16:21.100 Keep spending it.

06:16:21.980 Mm-hmm.

06:16:22.520 Uh-huh.

06:16:23.080 Uh-huh.

06:16:24.000 Mm-hmm.

06:16:25.200 Keep spending that coin.

06:16:26.940 Okay.

06:16:27.140 We got more notes.

06:16:27.780 We got to blast through.

06:16:28.680 I think we got, let's see, we have Karina.

06:16:31.020 Mm-hmm.

06:16:31.460 Uh, you're, you, did you, your repossession agent, repo agent, did you repo your soul?

06:16:40.740 What?

06:16:41.580 Because the whole, like.

06:16:42.760 Repossess your soul.

06:16:44.160 You know how you, like, the whole.

06:16:47.480 Me, me too.

06:16:48.260 I also feel that way.

06:16:49.320 No, it's been going off for the past, like, two hours.

06:16:53.280 Okay.

06:16:54.300 Um, thank you.

06:16:56.280 Uh.

06:16:57.680 What about repoing my soul?

06:17:01.460 Yeah.

06:17:05.580 What do you, can you, can you explain what you mean?

06:17:10.160 Because you're a repo agent and you, like, found Jesus or.

06:17:15.020 Oh.

06:17:15.920 I actually made a shirt that says that.

06:17:18.120 Oh, man.

06:17:19.080 Yes.

06:17:19.600 Okay.

06:17:20.000 Um, you said delivered addict?

06:17:22.360 What does that mean?

06:17:23.300 Delivered?

06:17:23.860 It's, I think it's in your IG bio.

06:17:25.620 Yes.

06:17:26.140 Okay.

06:17:26.760 Um, because I, I've been delivered from addiction.

06:17:30.220 Okay.

06:17:30.700 Gotcha.

06:17:31.020 Yeah.

06:17:32.020 Was it, you said it was cocaine or other stuff too?

06:17:35.880 Or.

06:17:36.120 Um, this time around it was cocaine.

06:17:38.040 Oh, this time around.

06:17:38.840 Shit.

06:17:39.820 Okay.

06:17:40.500 Um, you said you're single and celibate.

06:17:42.680 You're, wait, hold on.

06:17:43.580 You're homeless and living for Jesus.

06:17:45.780 Oh, hey, look.

06:17:47.300 I know.

06:17:47.920 I was waiting for you to bring that back up so that I can chime in.

06:17:50.860 But.

06:17:52.740 Gotcha.

06:17:53.140 Um, so, okay.

06:17:54.880 Uh, how long you been homeless for?

06:17:58.220 Four months.

06:17:59.260 So you're just like crashing on couches or what?

06:18:01.640 Um, I was hotel hopping for a while.

06:18:04.360 Um.

06:18:04.840 Well, that's not homeless.

06:18:06.600 Well, I have a job because I'm a repo agent.

06:18:08.920 So I can afford.

06:18:09.420 But you live in a hotel?

06:18:10.500 I, I was hotel, but I'm homeless.

06:18:12.200 I don't have a home.

06:18:13.160 I'm not on the street.

06:18:14.840 I'm not in a tent.

06:18:15.420 I don't think that that's homeless.

06:18:16.800 But I'm still like, I don't have a place where I reside.

06:18:20.960 So I'm hopping.

06:18:21.400 Is there, have you ever, uh, like slept in your car?

06:18:24.720 Like.

06:18:26.400 In my whole life?

06:18:27.400 Yes.

06:18:28.000 I have.

06:18:28.360 No, but like.

06:18:28.780 But right now, no.

06:18:30.180 I don't know if that, is that homeless?

06:18:32.060 I don't think that's homeless.

06:18:34.280 That's not homeless.

06:18:36.120 She doesn't have a home.

06:18:37.940 Wait, so hold on.

06:18:38.540 If I was, if I lived in a hotel for a year, am I homeless?

06:18:43.200 Technically, yes.

06:18:44.040 A hotel is not a home.

06:18:45.180 She's not like, she doesn't have to be like sleeping on the street.

06:18:46.900 Well, hold on.

06:18:47.160 By, by this extension, renting is not your home either.

06:18:50.600 Renting is your home.

06:18:52.080 You signed a lease.

06:18:53.220 Your name is on the paperwork.

06:18:55.400 Wait, what?

06:18:55.820 You can't stay in a hotel for a year anyways.

06:18:58.300 You have to like switch it up.

06:18:59.440 In a hotel, you're living day by day.

06:19:02.560 So if you don't have.

06:19:04.100 Extended stay.

06:19:04.760 If you don't have money per day or per week or whatever for that hotel, you are homeless.

06:19:11.060 How long have you been homeless?

06:19:11.920 So, so hold on.

06:19:13.300 Let me explain the whole thing.

06:19:14.640 No, I don't, well, you don't need to explain the whole thing.

06:19:16.700 I'm not going to explain the whole thing, but let me explain.

06:19:18.680 So I was homeless hoping, hopping from hotels to Airbnbs and all over the place for a few weeks.

06:19:24.920 And then I was gifted a place to stay for the last few months.

06:19:30.820 So how long total have, wait, so you, you are homeless or you're not homeless?

06:19:36.260 I don't have a home, but I.

06:19:38.300 How long have you been staying at this?

06:19:40.980 You've been gifted a place like it's your own place?

06:19:43.100 No, it's just a temporary stay while I find a place to live.

06:19:46.380 So you're like living with a friend?

06:19:48.520 Yeah.

06:19:48.860 Do you have a bedroom?

06:19:50.560 Yes.

06:19:51.560 Do you share the bedroom or is it your own bedroom?

06:19:53.400 No, it's my bedroom.

06:19:53.920 Do you have your own bathroom?

06:19:54.920 Yes.

06:19:55.380 You're not homeless.

06:19:56.120 That's ridiculous.

06:19:57.080 But it's not my home.

06:19:58.080 Actually, it's better.

06:19:59.520 Hold on.

06:19:59.980 What's it called?

06:20:00.040 That's even better than renting.

06:20:01.440 You're not paying money, right?

06:20:03.540 You said it's gifted to you, right?

06:20:05.120 Yes.

06:20:07.400 Own bedroom, own bathroom.

06:20:09.120 For three months.

06:20:10.240 I have to be out by the end of the month.

06:20:12.340 You're not homeless.

06:20:14.300 I would like that.

06:20:15.920 Also, even if you were living in the hotel, you wouldn't be homeless.

06:20:18.100 Well, that's not a fun situation to be stuck in someone else's place and having to find.

06:20:22.060 Well, I think it's better than having to pay rent.

06:20:23.860 For three months?

06:20:24.580 She's not paying rent.

06:20:27.320 I don't know.

06:20:28.380 Okay.

06:20:29.280 All right.

06:20:29.640 Whatever.

06:20:30.060 It's not super.

06:20:31.000 The Lord's hand was on it.

06:20:32.260 Okay.

06:20:32.600 So that is how that happened.

06:20:33.540 You're not homeless, though.

06:20:34.760 Hmm?

06:20:35.120 You're not homeless.

06:20:36.760 For four months, I didn't have my own place.

06:20:39.760 You have.

06:20:40.600 You're living in a home?

06:20:45.660 It's not my place.

06:20:47.300 Like, I couldn't afford.

06:20:48.320 So if you have roommates, you don't have a home?

06:20:50.440 Why?

06:20:51.000 We don't got to argue the definition of home.

06:20:52.840 Yeah.

06:20:53.840 Semantics.

06:20:54.120 It's just like, I don't have a home to live.

06:20:56.680 It's not quite semantics.

06:20:57.420 You're just not homeless.

06:20:58.240 I think, like, hotel hopping is homeless.

06:21:00.620 But, I mean, you have a place to stay temporarily.

06:21:02.980 You're not.

06:21:03.160 It was a temporary place.

06:21:03.580 So if I'm hotel hopping for three years, I've been homeless for three years?

06:21:07.080 Yes.

06:21:07.380 In the same way that somebody who's been living on the streets for three years is homeless?

06:21:11.220 Well, there's obviously a difference.

06:21:12.460 Because you're not living on the street.

06:21:13.640 I'm going to ask the chat.

06:21:15.180 Chat.

06:21:15.560 If you've been hotel hopping for, and by the way, she's been living rent-free at a house

06:21:24.240 for three months.

06:21:25.340 Yeah, I don't know.

06:21:25.600 Where's my boy George at?

06:21:27.620 Chat.

06:21:29.200 If, chat.

06:21:30.200 If I'm staying at the Ritz-Carlton and I'm switching between different Ritz-Carlton's.

06:21:36.320 Oh, she's not staying at the Ritz-Carlton.

06:21:38.140 Who cares?

06:21:39.140 She's staying at, like, holiday.

06:21:39.560 Hold on.

06:21:40.100 If I'm going from Ritz-Carlton in Miami to Ritz-Carlton in New York to Ritz-Carlton in Santa Barbara,

06:21:47.600 and I'm switching up the hotel, am I homeless?

06:21:51.380 Would you say she has a home?

06:21:53.140 I'm eating caviar at the Ritz.

06:21:55.720 I'm eating caviar at the Ritz-Carlton.

06:21:57.300 That's not what I'm doing.

06:21:58.240 Am I fucking homeless?

06:22:00.180 George, put her in a Ritz, man.

06:22:01.880 How's this rage fade?

06:22:03.120 This is rage fade.

06:22:04.160 How's this rage fade?

06:22:05.260 She goes a lot.

06:22:06.020 Pull up the fact check.

06:22:07.140 She's not living.

06:22:07.840 Or she's not staying at the Ritz-Carlton.

06:22:08.980 If you're hotel jumping and every single night you are paying for a hotel, you're not homeless.

06:22:17.460 I can't believe that.

06:22:18.340 If she loses her job tomorrow and she does not have money to pay for the hotel, she is then homeless.

06:22:25.940 So, technically, yes, she is homeless.

06:22:27.600 Technically, well, they might still have to.

06:22:29.340 Period.

06:22:30.180 It depends on.

06:22:30.920 Where are you going with this?

06:22:32.640 Period.

06:22:33.080 I don't want to talk about fucking hotels and homelessness.

06:22:35.380 All right.

06:22:36.000 What do you want?

06:22:37.520 I want a concession that she's not homeless.

06:22:40.060 That's all I want.

06:22:40.780 I'm temporarily not residing anywhere permanently.

06:22:47.080 And also, she's been living in the house.

06:22:48.820 She's not hotel hopping.

06:22:49.500 Okay, so that is different.

06:22:50.900 I don't think that's homeless.

06:22:51.540 Is she homeless like she said she's been living in the house?

06:22:54.280 So, staying in the house, no.

06:22:55.200 I don't think that's homeless.

06:22:55.880 Anyways, thank you.

06:22:56.840 W.

06:22:57.520 Lawyer.

06:22:57.860 What the fuck?

06:23:00.700 Wretch guy donated $202.02.

06:23:04.760 Men need resources.

06:23:06.380 Experiencing confidence should be taken seriously.

06:23:09.560 Women just need to be submissive, peaceable, have reasonable morals.

06:23:14.260 But feminism is leading women to become the man they desire.

06:23:17.380 You really seem to object to what he had to say there.

06:23:20.100 What?

06:23:20.500 Wretch guy.

06:23:21.140 Thank you, man.

06:23:22.100 You.

06:23:22.900 Why are you laughing?

06:23:23.620 What do you disagree with?

06:23:25.060 Oh, this is just so funny.

06:23:26.120 Well, what's funny about it?

06:23:27.120 All of this.

06:23:27.980 All of it?

06:23:30.000 Okay.

06:23:31.040 No need to expand.

06:23:33.800 What's his point?

06:23:35.720 Who knows?

06:23:36.720 Who freaking knows?

06:23:37.660 All right.

06:23:38.420 We have Pasty George here.

06:23:39.920 Message from the government.

06:23:40.440 Where he at?

06:23:41.360 Where he at?

06:23:41.900 Pasty George donated $200.04.

06:23:45.220 Spending that money, honey.

06:23:46.100 Being homeless means not having a house or apartment and actually living on the streets.

06:23:51.520 That is not homelessness if you are staying in a hotel, P&B, temporary,

06:23:56.260 home slash house, et cetera.

06:23:58.360 So why don't you give her a house then if you have so much money to drop?

06:24:01.120 Well, I guess it's not living on the streets, but I do see it as less secure.

06:24:06.320 Period.

06:24:07.220 That wouldn't mean she's homeless.

06:24:09.140 Yeah, I see the difference.

06:24:10.680 She's less secure.

06:24:11.460 Less secure living.

06:24:12.700 Less secure living.

06:24:13.560 Yeah, but hold on.

06:24:14.260 Wait, I don't even understand this.

06:24:16.060 Seriously.

06:24:16.540 Why are we arguing this?

06:24:17.380 Hold on.

06:24:17.780 Hold on.

06:24:18.080 Final point on this.

06:24:19.400 Literally.

06:24:19.640 So here, how about this?

06:24:21.920 I live, hypothetical scenario.

06:24:24.860 Can we get a campaign?

06:24:25.800 Stop, stop.

06:24:27.100 Please.

06:24:27.440 Stop.

06:24:27.740 Let me get through my thought, Felicity.

06:24:30.560 God damn.

06:24:31.580 Okay.

06:24:31.760 So who's more or less secure?

06:24:34.900 A billionaire who's hopping from a luxury hotel to luxury hotel or the person who has

06:24:41.680 a mortgage but has a house but they're living paycheck to paycheck?

06:24:45.060 Who's more secure?

06:24:47.780 What do you mean?

06:24:48.460 Obviously, the billionaire.

06:24:49.520 They have billions of dollars.

06:24:52.020 Right, but he doesn't have a house.

06:24:55.120 The billionaire?

06:24:55.960 She's not a billionaire.

06:24:56.940 Obviously.

06:24:58.500 Right, but I don't understand.

06:25:00.660 Oh my gosh.

06:25:01.420 The reason I was given a place to stay was because if I, I can't disclose who it is because

06:25:08.340 it's just like a conflict.

06:25:10.060 I don't want them to see it on this show.

06:25:13.480 But I wouldn't be able to work anymore.

06:25:16.480 I have my dogs and if I couldn't continue to, like I could have ended up on the streets

06:25:23.860 but if I had to do that, I'd have my dogs and I wouldn't be able to go to work anymore.

06:25:28.120 So I needed a place to keep my dogs so that I could go.

06:25:31.460 But like what is the proportion of people who are paycheck to paycheck in this country?

06:25:35.200 Like this idea that it's the degree of secure, isn't it the case like a majority of people

06:25:41.980 live paycheck to paycheck?

06:25:44.240 This means they're one paycheck away from like complete catastrophe.

06:25:48.660 Yeah, they're less secure but that doesn't mean they're homeless.

06:25:51.920 It's, I don't understand, I don't even understand that.

06:25:55.960 I don't, whatever, I'm going to move on.

06:25:57.040 I thought we like, I guess discussed that it was a non-secure living.

06:26:00.380 Yes!

06:26:01.140 Pacey George donated 200.

06:26:02.560 They love it, Pacey George.

06:26:03.620 Every time you send one in, they love it.

06:26:04.860 When I was a little boy, my mother was homeless for a year and was actually living on the streets

06:26:09.820 while I was put into a foster home because she lost her job over a bullsh-tee reason.

06:26:14.920 Here's what I want you to do.

06:26:16.580 Pacey George, Debbie.

06:26:17.440 Is that why you're hurt?

06:26:18.500 Hold on.

06:26:18.860 Here's what I want you to do.

06:26:21.940 I want you to go to Skid Row in Los Angeles and be like, we're the same.

06:26:28.020 I relate to you.

06:26:30.700 That's not what she's saying.

06:26:31.800 She would never do that.

06:26:32.680 We are both homeless.

06:26:34.300 If I go to Skid Row, you know I'm going to minister to everybody over there.

06:26:37.860 Oh my God.

06:26:38.540 I'm going to evangelize.

06:26:40.240 I'm going to bring Jesus to the streets.

06:26:41.860 There's homeless people in Santa Barbara.

06:26:45.840 I want you to go up to a homeless person in Santa Barbara and just be like, man, I relate,

06:26:52.020 dog.

06:26:52.900 I relate, homie.

06:26:54.660 She's not even saying that.

06:26:56.100 Yeah.

06:26:56.720 That's what she says.

06:26:57.360 She's homeless.

06:26:57.660 You're totally taking this out of context.

06:26:58.940 How else am I supposed to bring up this?

06:27:00.800 Chill out.

06:27:01.140 Chill out, Brian.

06:27:01.980 Chill out.

06:27:02.380 Yeah.

06:27:03.140 Are you mad from earlier?

06:27:04.300 Are you good?

06:27:05.320 Oh, I'm just having fun.

06:27:06.400 Chill out.

06:27:06.760 Okay, so there's that.

06:27:09.160 We talked about the, that stuff.

06:27:14.280 Okay, you think OF is demonic, but we're not going to get, nobody here does OF, so whatever.

06:27:17.800 Yeah, nobody, yeah.

06:27:21.720 Currently celibate.

06:27:24.640 Mickey.

06:27:26.320 Wait, who's Mickey?

06:27:28.860 Mouse?

06:27:29.660 Mickey.

06:27:31.440 Who's Mickey?

06:27:33.200 Oh, yeah, that was a flake.

06:27:36.120 Never mind.

06:27:37.520 Okay, did we do, oh, Mahi.

06:27:41.800 Let's see.

06:27:42.500 No, we did her notes.

06:27:43.680 Some of hers.

06:27:44.260 We didn't finish them.

06:27:45.380 There's only a few more.

06:27:47.420 Hey, you know, honestly, I blame, I blame.

06:27:50.380 I blame George.

06:27:51.840 Yeah, it's all George's fault.

06:27:53.240 The reason the show's going long.

06:27:55.780 So anyways, okay.

06:27:58.340 Let's see here.

06:28:00.520 You say relationships only work when the guy loves the girl more.

06:28:03.500 It doesn't mean the girl loves them very little,

06:28:05.420 but the guy has to love the girl more.

06:28:07.880 Yeah.

06:28:10.060 Why is that?

06:28:10.700 I think if, like, women are internally done with the relationship,

06:28:15.580 they still will keep trying and holding on to the relationship,

06:28:18.820 but I feel like when men are done in a relationship,

06:28:21.020 they are just done.

06:28:22.420 Like, they will leave.

06:28:24.340 No, I think it's the opposite.

06:28:25.760 I think that, uh, I think men, they'll just linger in that shit.

06:28:32.600 They'll linger.

06:28:33.440 I think when a girl's done, I'm not saying she's going to dump the guy right away.

06:28:39.120 I don't know.

06:28:40.520 I feel like what I've seen majority,

06:28:42.320 I feel like women will stay in it and try to keep it working,

06:28:45.200 but if a man is just done, they will just break it off.

06:28:48.380 Uh, they'll go on to somebody else.

06:28:51.240 That's what men do.

06:28:52.260 They just hop.

06:28:53.560 No, that's what women do.

06:28:54.800 Both people do.

06:28:55.760 No, but yeah, both people do do it.

06:28:57.740 I think women do it more often.

06:28:59.720 Women.

06:29:00.320 I think it's way more often the case that when there's a breakup,

06:29:03.320 the woman's already got the next guy in line, ready to go.

06:29:07.680 Guys take a lot longer to get over a breakup,

06:29:09.980 a lot longer to get a new chick.

06:29:11.460 Generally speaking, I think it's the case.

06:29:13.620 That's actually scientifically proven that men are emotionally more damaged by breakups.

06:29:19.420 And I also think that, um,

06:29:21.680 Let's go, Hannah.

06:29:22.460 Cook.

06:29:22.940 Go off, Queen.

06:29:24.040 Go off, Queen.

06:29:25.760 Go off, Margo.

06:29:27.440 Don't call me Margo.

06:29:28.940 Okay, Barbie.

06:29:29.600 That's not my name.

06:29:30.420 Do it.

06:29:30.700 Oh, Barbie's fine.

06:29:31.600 She likes it.

06:29:32.240 Okay.

06:29:32.960 Yeah, I just,

06:29:33.960 I just think that both parties usually have difficulty with, with breakups.

06:29:40.300 Yeah.

06:29:40.400 I also know men that will lead women on for sex as well.

06:29:45.120 It depends on who breaks up with who.

06:29:46.260 So men stay in relationships too, for different reasons than us.

06:29:51.420 Fair enough.

06:29:51.920 But I will say that like when, when, um, the partner of a man, like, let's say they,

06:30:00.420 it's old age and the woman dies before the man, the man will immediately,

06:30:05.540 I've seen it many times, immediately find somebody else as a replacement.

06:30:09.720 They waste no time, no time.

06:30:12.980 And women are not that way.

06:30:14.840 They're not that way.

06:30:15.840 I don't know.

06:30:16.160 I feel like girls, like girls are more likely to have guys in the friend zone.

06:30:19.520 You have guys waiting in the wings and, uh, I don't know.

06:30:23.280 But look, it, it, it varies.

06:30:24.900 Um, oh, look who it is.

06:30:26.900 George.

06:30:28.100 A message from the government.

06:30:29.200 George donated $200 and four cents to chair four.

06:30:35.380 I was stating what actual homelessness is.

06:30:38.340 And I never blamed my mother for losing her job because her boss was racist.

06:30:42.980 But since you laughed at her misfortune, you can say, Felicity, just stay for it.

06:30:47.180 He's really giving you a lot of money.

06:30:49.080 Uh, I know.

06:30:50.440 Send it to my, send it to my bank account.

06:30:52.680 I think he's a little obsessed with me.

06:30:53.900 I think he, I think he loves me.

06:30:57.180 You want to give me a ring?

06:30:58.600 Go for it.

06:30:59.620 You guys gotta stop arguing with him.

06:31:01.100 He's going to keep sending it.

06:31:02.060 Uh, okay.

06:31:02.840 It's better for you guys.

06:31:04.500 You said body count shouldn't define who you are as a person.

06:31:07.860 For the whatever podcast?

06:31:09.460 Not me.

06:31:10.800 I'm trying, I'm trying to rush through this guys.

06:31:12.420 Just if you just let me get through.

06:31:13.640 Body count shouldn't define who you are as a person.

06:31:15.660 The people I know with high body counts.

06:31:17.980 Well, you know, with high body counts are still very genuine people.

06:31:21.580 Your own boyfriend, your own boyfriend doesn't agree, uh, with you on this.

06:31:26.040 However, W boyfriend, you know, can we get some W's in the chat for Mahi's boyfriend?

06:31:29.800 W can we free him?

06:31:30.880 Just kidding.

06:31:31.200 I'm kidding.

06:31:31.740 I love you guys.

06:31:32.480 You guys have a great relationship, but, um, you guys fight on the body count thing.

06:31:36.820 I don't want to say we fight about it, but we disagree about it.

06:31:39.160 Okay.

06:31:39.900 Um, and so, uh, just curious though.

06:31:42.240 You said that your friends, um, you, you know, girls.

06:31:47.120 Yeah.

06:31:47.560 Who have, or maybe guys, I don't know.

06:31:49.320 You know, people who have high body counts.

06:31:51.140 Is it girls, guys, both?

06:31:52.400 Um, yeah, a few girls, honestly.

06:31:54.580 I mean, I know, I think.

06:31:55.560 How much?

06:31:56.040 Just curious.

06:31:57.240 For the, for the girlfriends.

06:31:59.100 I know one of them has like eight or nine.

06:32:02.060 Okay.

06:32:02.480 And is that the highest or?

06:32:04.020 Um, yeah.

06:32:04.460 For our age.

06:32:05.220 Maybe for your age.

06:32:05.920 It's a bit, a little bit, I guess.

06:32:08.000 I know.

06:32:08.380 Who knows?

06:32:09.000 Some people be putting up 30 freshman quarter, you know, first freshman quarter, you know,

06:32:13.920 shit.

06:32:14.720 Sorry.

06:32:15.140 You know what?

06:32:15.520 Um, like, obviously, like sometimes maybe it does reflect your personality if you are

06:32:20.020 sleeping with a lot of people, but I feel like a lot of people like to generalize if

06:32:23.600 you have a high body count that it automatically means you're just like a bad person, like

06:32:28.640 a lesser person.

06:32:29.320 But like the people that I've seen is like, they're all like still very intelligent.

06:32:33.600 They hold on one sec.

06:32:35.640 Uh, hold on, uh, guys, hold on.

06:32:38.560 We'll, we'll be right back in 10 seconds.

06:32:45.520 Uh, okay.

06:32:57.440 Sorry about that, guys.

06:32:58.100 We had a, okay.

06:33:00.160 Um, sorry.

06:33:02.320 So you were saying.

06:33:04.220 I just feel like people automatically assume that they're lesser than or like they don't

06:33:09.380 want a lot from life.

06:33:10.380 Like, I just think like I've seen people who are like the exact opposite of that.

06:33:14.500 Is she coming back or are you coming back?

06:33:16.940 I was here and unfortunately, um, if I, if he doesn't scoop me up now, he's, he's going

06:33:23.000 to leave me here and he's my only, um, way to get to LA.

06:33:27.540 To LA?

06:33:28.640 Is anybody driving to LA?

06:33:31.480 Like, are you going back?

06:33:33.220 Are you?

06:33:33.540 No, it's all good.

06:33:34.380 Do you need a ride?

06:33:35.020 We can get you a ride from one of the gals.

06:33:36.820 Okay.

06:33:38.000 He drove all the way here.

06:33:39.540 Do you want to just say goodbye into the microphone or whatever?

06:33:44.280 Felicity, if you can.

06:33:45.140 Yeah, I've asked you.

06:33:47.940 I appreciate it so much.

06:33:49.900 Um, nothing has, has to do with this.

06:33:53.140 It's, it's just like, I got a lot of other stuff going on and this was kind of like the

06:33:58.700 worst time to have it all going on because there's like three cameras with all of this

06:34:04.240 going on, but you guys are incredible people.

06:34:06.740 Even me?

06:34:07.960 You know what?

06:34:08.800 Yeah.

06:34:08.980 Even you, even you.

06:34:10.300 Aw, thanks.

06:34:10.880 Yeah, you're cool, man.

06:34:12.080 There's just, there's just a lot going on and outside world.

06:34:16.120 And while this is all happening.

06:34:17.120 He needed the validation.

06:34:18.100 So it's like, there's literally like cameras and people watching while I have all this

06:34:24.020 shit going on.

06:34:24.760 So it's, it's just that, but my ride's down here and he's been waiting for me for the

06:34:29.860 past half an hour.

06:34:30.920 And if I, if I don't catch it with him, he's going to leave me here and I'm not going to

06:34:34.600 be able to find a way back or a place to stay.

06:34:36.620 So he's my only way out.

06:34:38.200 We'll let you leave.

06:34:39.000 One final thing.

06:34:39.580 One final thing.

06:34:40.260 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

06:34:41.560 One final thing here.

06:34:42.540 We were talking about body count.

06:34:44.280 You said that, you know, body count shouldn't define who you are as a person.

06:34:47.420 Uh, we often, you know, just go around the table on this, um, body count, um, if I'm

06:34:53.180 correct, it's a three and all of them.

06:34:57.100 We were going around the table, body count.

06:34:59.760 I'm not going to share that.

06:35:01.420 Do you want to do, you don't have to give an exact number.

06:35:03.540 Would you feel more comfortable doing a range?

06:35:05.560 Like range.

06:35:08.480 Less than 10.

06:35:12.260 Yes.

06:35:12.760 Less than five.

06:35:13.540 Yes.

06:35:13.860 Okay.

06:35:15.400 Four.

06:35:16.180 Four.

06:35:16.560 Okay.

06:35:17.040 Also not going to divulge.

06:35:18.700 Range.

06:35:19.440 More comfortable with a range.

06:35:21.100 Uh, less than five.

06:35:23.180 Less than five.

06:35:24.000 Okay.

06:35:24.500 Don't want to say.

06:35:25.340 We talked about this earlier though.

06:35:26.700 We did?

06:35:27.260 Yeah.

06:35:28.700 I don't think we did.

06:35:29.720 Range.

06:35:30.160 Do you want to do a range?

06:35:31.600 Less than.

06:35:32.500 Do you want to do a less than?

06:35:34.180 More than?

06:35:34.840 No.

06:35:35.160 50?

06:35:35.360 I just don't want to say.

06:35:36.020 100?

06:35:36.520 200?

06:35:37.660 I'm not.

06:35:38.180 I'm not implying.

06:35:39.100 I'm just.

06:35:40.860 No, it's okay.

06:35:41.580 By the way, Pacey, George has a nice comment for you.

06:35:43.900 Um, after.

06:35:44.880 I'm not trolling.

06:35:46.180 Wait, seriously?

06:35:47.460 Yes.

06:35:48.320 Seven.

06:35:48.640 Finally.

06:35:49.720 Seven?

06:35:50.340 Okay.

06:35:50.980 Less than 10.

06:35:52.020 Less than 10?

06:35:54.420 I honestly don't know.

06:35:56.520 Did you lose count or lost track?

06:35:58.900 I stopped counting.

06:35:59.900 Stopped counting.

06:36:00.240 Probably in my 20s.

06:36:01.620 Do you know where you stopped counting at?

06:36:05.860 Like at 100?

06:36:06.860 No.

06:36:07.540 20?

06:36:08.060 No, it's definitely.

06:36:09.320 33?

06:36:09.780 Low 20s or he hasn't even made it to 20.

06:36:12.720 So.

06:36:13.260 And you, when you used to do OF, were you, like you didn't do, did you do hardcore stuff?

06:36:19.120 No.

06:36:19.700 Uh, the only men that I brought in were my actual boyfriends at the time.

06:36:24.320 Do you want to stay for the roast session that we're about to do?

06:36:27.300 I think she really has to.

06:36:28.580 Oh, no, I'm just saying.

06:36:29.640 I can stay.

06:36:30.780 I'll text her.

06:36:31.540 Oh, the Pasty George TTS come through here.

06:36:34.120 A message from the government of Canada.

06:36:35.760 Do you want to guess?

06:36:36.260 Pasty George donated $200 and four cents.

06:36:40.040 Hey, see ya.

06:36:41.260 Appreciate that.

06:36:41.900 Nice guy.

06:36:42.580 It's all love.

06:36:43.400 It's all love.

06:36:44.040 I know it's all love.

06:36:45.500 There's nothing you did wrong.

06:36:47.200 There's nothing any of them said.

06:36:48.600 There's just other stuff going on.

06:36:50.440 It was like the worst timing.

06:36:52.220 So, I'm just here for the free food.

06:36:55.620 Damn, what the fuck?

06:36:56.540 So, can I be dead honest with you?

06:37:00.320 This was, I hit y'all up as a joke.

06:37:03.780 I wasn't even planning on coming out to LA for this date.

06:37:07.140 I was probably going to like bail out last minute.

06:37:10.340 You made it though.

06:37:11.140 Couldn't make it because I was stuck in Florida and I was stuck in like a conservatorship situation.

06:37:16.620 And literally on Wednesday, I like fled from that shit and used like the last little bit of money for my last seasonal job to go to the one place where I knew I could probably couch up and make something work out.

06:37:26.800 And I thought I was making money from this and I realized I'm not getting paid for this.

06:37:30.840 Wait, hold on.

06:37:31.420 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

06:37:33.100 You asked to be on the show.

06:37:35.660 I don't know why the assumption would be anything to the contrary.

06:37:38.180 So, I last minute said, okay, you know what?

06:37:41.400 I'll make it work.

06:37:42.260 I'll come in.

06:37:42.760 Well, I'll just survive these eight hours of getting roasted so I can get.

06:37:50.560 You barely trust me.

06:37:51.900 I've had way more intense debates with people.

06:37:55.340 This was light work.

06:37:58.380 Usually, it's not like this.

06:38:00.660 Like, I don't cry like this.

06:38:02.280 It's just there's other stuff going on.

06:38:04.660 I understand.

06:38:05.180 So, it's like I sat here and I'm trying to hold myself together.

06:38:08.040 I'm like, all right, bro.

06:38:09.340 Five more.

06:38:10.220 Four more hours.

06:38:11.560 Four more hours and then you can get free food.

06:38:14.080 But I don't really.

06:38:15.520 Well, we had the food pretty early on.

06:38:17.240 Like, you didn't travel all this way for fucking free pizza.

06:38:23.000 But anyways.

06:38:23.660 I thought it was like making.

06:38:26.340 Genuinely speaking, though, I know we disagreed.

06:38:28.140 I know we had a heated moment earlier on in the show.

06:38:30.300 It's this cool, man.

06:38:31.700 It's peace and love.

06:38:32.940 Yeah.

06:38:33.280 I mean, I just wanted to say I know.

06:38:34.840 Look, we disagreed.

06:38:36.200 It sounds like there's some other stuff going on with your life.

06:38:38.440 You mentioned the conservatorship.

06:38:40.720 I'm sure there's, you know, a lot going on there I have no idea about.

06:38:45.540 I, again, I know we had a little heated moment exchange.

06:38:49.100 I genuinely wish you nothing but the best.

06:38:51.720 I hope that if you're on, if you're moving to Cali or heading back to Florida or whatever.

06:38:56.600 But I genuinely wish you the best.

06:38:59.100 And despite our disagreements.

06:39:01.460 So, yeah.

06:39:01.820 It's all good, dude.

06:39:03.140 And if there's anything, you know, else beyond just the disagreements on the podcast going on in your life,

06:39:09.420 I wish you Godspeed in resolving all those, all those things or, you know, so, yeah.

06:39:16.180 Yeah, appreciate that, bro.

06:39:17.440 Yeah, take care.

06:39:18.560 Thank you, guys.

06:39:19.220 Go get your ride.

06:39:20.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

06:39:20.800 Appreciate it.

06:39:21.440 You guys are fucking awesome.

06:39:23.180 And by the way, also another compliment for you, another compliment.

06:39:27.040 I, you're, the, the urban climbing stuff is actually quite impressive.

06:39:32.900 Oh, I appreciate that.

06:39:33.720 Super impressive.

06:39:34.520 It takes a lot of courage.

06:39:36.640 Like, I, I get uncomfortable.

06:39:38.240 I'm afraid of men.

06:39:38.940 I get uncomfortable.

06:39:41.040 Yeah, so, and that's super cool.

06:39:43.080 So, I appreciate you.

06:39:44.180 Thank you for coming on.

06:39:44.880 Appreciate it.

06:39:45.400 Appreciate that, man.

06:39:45.680 You guys are fucking awesome.

06:39:47.400 Felicity, if you want to.

06:39:48.760 All right.

06:39:49.240 Get home safe.

06:39:49.940 Thank you.

06:39:51.740 Appreciate that.

06:39:53.040 All right.

06:39:53.640 Speaking of, we have.

06:39:58.120 Nashu Navo donated $200.

06:40:00.840 Go ahead, Felicity.

06:40:01.360 For what it's worth, sorry, C1.

06:40:03.620 Brian belaboring the point with his tism was more triggering.

06:40:07.840 I, I am autistic, so that's probably part of it.

06:40:10.700 Yeah.

06:40:15.140 Good talk.

06:40:15.960 Anybody else here autistic?

06:40:18.780 Anybody?

06:40:19.800 Nobody?

06:40:20.280 Really?

06:40:20.880 I have ADHD or ADD.

06:40:22.680 You have ADHD?

06:40:23.980 Mm-hmm.

06:40:24.320 That's practically autism.

06:40:26.160 Okay.

06:40:26.540 So, sure.

06:40:27.260 That does, I'm not even sure if that's true.

06:40:29.020 Whatever.

06:40:29.420 I'm just, I'm just making shit up at this point.

06:40:31.840 Okay.

06:40:32.220 Body count, shouldn't define.

06:40:33.240 Did you want to do range on the body count?

06:40:35.000 Let's get in a little bit.

06:40:36.000 Oh.

06:40:37.000 Um, I really, I think it's like low 20s.

06:40:40.920 I don't, I think that's what it is.

06:40:42.520 All right.

06:40:43.400 Uh, but really quick on the finalize the body count conversation.

06:40:47.660 Um, do you think men are insecure if they do care about the woman's body count?

06:40:51.060 They're like, oh, she's got a body count of 15.

06:40:53.520 I wouldn't date her.

06:40:54.840 No, but I do think like some, I understand it, but I think some men take it to like a

06:41:03.320 level of just like disrespecting the woman as a whole instead of just kind of respecting

06:41:08.860 what she's done.

06:41:10.420 I mean, instead of like, I don't know, I feel like they just kind of disrespect her of who

06:41:13.740 she is and doesn't, and just judges her like completely.

06:41:17.600 Uh, Nick, uh, hold on.

06:41:20.460 Sorry.

06:41:20.640 I got to go one sec.

06:41:22.100 I just got to do some private cons here really quick.

06:41:24.160 Guys, we'll be back in five seconds.

06:41:37.460 Uh, okay.

06:41:38.160 Sorry about that guys.

06:41:38.860 Just had to do a private con there.

06:41:40.520 Uh, okay.

06:41:41.400 Well, I actually don't, I don't actually see the issue with guys caring about this.

06:41:47.100 Women have all kinds of preferences, standards, whatever.

06:41:49.640 If a guy doesn't want to date a girl because she's hooked up with X amount of guys, I think

06:41:56.020 that's fine.

06:41:59.600 I don't even think you, it doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad person, but you do acknowledge

06:42:04.820 that like people, I don't really know.

06:42:07.440 Like I feel like people just kind of look down on them for their body count.

06:42:11.200 I wouldn't say bad person, but they do look down.

06:42:13.300 Uh, curious on this, like maybe going around the table, would you date a guy?

06:42:20.160 I know some of you guys are in a relationship, so hypothetical if you were single, uh, would

06:42:24.520 you date a guy who previously had sex with men?

06:42:28.360 No.

06:42:29.820 Yeah.

06:42:30.680 Yeah.

06:42:32.600 Okay.

06:42:33.080 No.

06:42:34.340 Uh.

06:42:34.880 He's bi.

06:42:35.460 He's bi or whatever.

06:42:37.380 So he's not, he's not like gay.

06:42:38.760 He's not.

06:42:39.300 If he was open and transparent about it and didn't hide it in like secrecy.

06:42:44.020 Yeah.

06:42:44.040 He just told you.

06:42:44.540 He's like, you know, when I was younger, I had slept with a couple of dudes S to the

06:42:48.840 D.

06:42:50.180 Potentially.

06:42:50.820 Maybe.

06:42:51.960 Okay.

06:42:52.400 What about you?

06:42:52.860 I don't think so.

06:42:53.720 Don't think so.

06:42:54.440 No.

06:42:54.880 No.

06:42:55.460 Personally, no.

06:42:58.700 We're going around the table.

06:43:00.340 Currently bi, like right now in this moment.

06:43:02.940 Um, how about this, just for the sake of it, uh, used to be bi.

06:43:09.020 No longer doing that, but used to be.

06:43:12.240 Okay.

06:43:12.760 Then I would.

06:43:14.100 You would?

06:43:14.740 Yeah.

06:43:14.940 If it was in the past, then.

06:43:15.960 In the past.

06:43:16.520 Yeah.

06:43:17.180 Okay.

06:43:19.020 But why not?

06:43:20.460 He's.

06:43:22.400 I mean, if he's bi, then yeah, I wouldn't.

06:43:26.500 But.

06:43:26.720 No, no, no.

06:43:27.100 That's what I said, though.

06:43:27.740 He's bi.

06:43:28.040 Yeah.

06:43:28.080 I bet you said it after.

06:43:29.340 Oh, did I?

06:43:29.980 I'm sorry.

06:43:30.300 Maybe I mixed that up.

06:43:31.260 Yeah.

06:43:31.500 But if he was bi, then yeah.

06:43:33.380 Then you'd be fine.

06:43:34.000 Like he's.

06:43:35.000 Does it change if he was the top or bottom?

06:43:37.600 Oh, my God.

06:43:38.600 Oh, my God.

06:43:39.560 Like, imagine your boyfriend.

06:43:41.680 Can we not, though?

06:43:42.800 In your mind's eye.

06:43:44.200 Oh, my God.

06:43:45.160 What?

06:43:46.120 Are you guys.

06:43:46.820 What do you guys have against gay sex?

06:43:48.880 Nothing.

06:43:49.440 We're like doing nothing.

06:43:50.400 We don't have to go.

06:43:51.580 What did I just say?

06:43:52.540 Shay, you are such a homophobe.

06:43:54.840 George, you have any more money to spend?

06:43:56.220 That is the most bigoted thing.

06:43:57.440 How dare you, Shay?

06:43:58.420 You realize I just said that I would, right?

06:43:59.180 Are you homophobe?

06:44:00.540 Huh?

06:44:00.880 You're funny.

06:44:01.580 I'm messing with you.

06:44:02.720 He's hilarious.

06:44:03.480 Actually.

06:44:04.680 I don't know.

06:44:04.980 Y'all are the one who, oh, don't make me think about gay male sex.

06:44:08.500 Well, I don't like in depth, you know?

06:44:10.300 What's wrong?

06:44:10.880 What's wrong about thinking about that?

06:44:13.420 You just took it to the next level.

06:44:16.100 I'm just saying, I'm just saying, imagine, imagine your boyfriend, like, doggies by another

06:44:23.240 dude.

06:44:23.660 Like, that doesn't do anything.

06:44:24.780 Oh, Lord.

06:44:27.120 I would question.

06:44:27.940 I think you're trying to think about this.

06:44:29.780 Yeah.

06:44:30.140 You're on to me.

06:44:31.160 You're on to me.

06:44:32.540 She got me.

06:44:33.200 I'm gay.

06:44:33.600 Yep.

06:44:33.920 I really think it.

06:44:35.060 She got me.

06:44:36.160 Got me.

06:44:36.900 Yeah.

06:44:37.120 Are you bi, perhaps?

06:44:38.040 I can, like, see it.

06:44:38.300 No.

06:44:39.260 No.

06:44:39.800 Although I have a really good gay voice.

06:44:41.620 Oh, my God, Shay.

06:44:42.560 You're just so cute sitting over there with your little necklace and your little polka dots

06:44:46.880 or whatever the fuck that is.

06:44:48.600 It's very natural for you.

06:44:50.400 Mahi, you're just so elegant.

06:44:51.960 I love it.

06:44:52.720 You're just so poised and elegant.

06:44:55.760 And I just think, you know, you're going to be a great psychologist when you're older.

06:45:00.580 Oh, my God.

06:45:01.240 Slay queen.

06:45:02.680 I think this is the real you.

06:45:04.560 Oh, yeah.

06:45:04.900 This is the real me.

06:45:06.340 Also, Hannah, Hannah, oh, my God, my little Margot Robbie.

06:45:10.620 Oh, my God.

06:45:11.040 You were just, like, the perfect little Barbie.

06:45:12.920 You should have just been her stunt double.

06:45:16.400 Ten out of ten.

06:45:18.240 Okay.

06:45:18.720 I got the rest of the table.

06:45:20.160 Hold on.

06:45:22.220 Oh, my God, my little cutie, little Christian girl.

06:45:24.660 You are just so fetch.

06:45:26.780 And then.

06:45:28.100 That's pretty good.

06:45:28.800 I love that you have your little clothing business.

06:45:31.480 That's so amazing.

06:45:33.580 Wow.

06:45:33.980 Thank you.

06:45:34.420 And then over here with you.

06:45:36.980 I feel like you didn't really say that much.

06:45:39.080 I don't know what to say to you.

06:45:41.760 Your curls.

06:45:42.920 Oh, my God.

06:45:43.440 To die for.

06:45:46.080 You.

06:45:47.100 Me.

06:45:50.980 You're speechless?

06:45:52.600 Wow.

06:45:52.800 I'm just trying to think of something.

06:45:55.780 Oh, my God.

06:45:56.580 You are the best MILF at this table.

06:46:00.380 I think you're the only mom.

06:46:01.920 Oh, my God, Felicity.

06:46:04.060 You are, like, just the cutest little felon ever.

06:46:07.640 Sorry.

06:46:08.180 Misdemeanor.

06:46:08.840 Was it a misdemeanor?

06:46:09.540 No, it was a felony.

06:46:10.600 What did you do?

06:46:11.700 No.

06:46:12.120 Guys, I'm just kidding.

06:46:13.340 I'm kidding.

06:46:13.720 I'm kidding.

06:46:14.320 She's the cutest little.

06:46:16.600 I was never convicted, so.

06:46:18.340 Yeah, you're fine.

06:46:19.160 Anyways, whatever.

06:46:19.840 Moving on.

06:46:20.040 All right.

06:46:20.220 We don't do that.

06:46:20.580 Innocent.

06:46:20.940 Moving on.

06:46:21.300 Okay.

06:46:21.480 It was funny.

06:46:23.900 If you can't see yourself marrying your high school partner, you don't think there's any.

06:46:27.100 Okay, that's fine.

06:46:27.960 Skip that.

06:46:29.280 Attraction matters a lot in a relationship.

06:46:31.320 People say as you grow older, you shouldn't focus on looks, but you personally, you want

06:46:35.100 a partner you're super attracted to.

06:46:37.420 It makes it harder for you to stay mad at them.

06:46:41.000 Your precious, my precious boyfriends.

06:46:44.000 No, my previous.

06:46:45.520 Oh, okay.

06:46:46.560 I thought, okay, okay.

06:46:47.760 Previous, not precious.

06:46:48.860 I was like, okay.

06:46:49.420 Maybe he was gay.

06:46:52.980 You said you weren't attracted to them, and it was so easy for you to stay mad at them.

06:46:56.940 Ooh, a little toxic.

06:46:58.720 You're a little toxic then?

06:46:59.840 I mean, I was super young back then, so that's also a lot what had to do with it, and I think

06:47:04.820 I was very insecure, so I thought they were the best I could do, but I think I've grown

06:47:10.600 since then.

06:47:11.260 But also, I still do think attraction matters a lot to me, and it is an important thing

06:47:15.520 that I want in a relationship.

06:47:18.780 Okay.

06:47:19.420 Um, look, I think whether you're a man, you're a woman, I think women care about looks, men

06:47:24.720 care about looks, totally acceptable for both genders.

06:47:27.980 I actually don't have any issue with your position.

06:47:32.140 What's that?

06:47:33.100 You want me to argue with her?

06:47:34.820 Okay, fine.

06:47:35.220 This is shocking.

06:47:36.300 No, don't.

06:47:37.240 It's 11.45.

06:47:38.440 Yeah.

06:47:39.680 Um, let's see here.

06:47:41.440 We have school tomorrow.

06:47:42.680 Thank you.

06:47:43.780 Oh, my goodness.

06:47:44.280 8 a.m.

06:47:44.560 So sassy.

06:47:45.580 You're a sassy.

06:47:46.140 Wow.

06:47:46.720 I love her.

06:47:47.700 Sassy Shay over here.

06:47:48.920 I love her.

06:47:49.400 A little sassy Shay wants to, you know, be a little sassy.

06:47:51.920 I like it.

06:47:52.140 You deserve that.

06:47:52.840 I like it, too.

06:47:53.140 You deserve the cattiness.

06:47:54.400 Okay.

06:47:54.760 Thank you.

06:47:55.120 Appreciate it.

06:47:55.820 Here, I got something for this.

06:47:58.160 Where is it?

06:47:58.580 No, just call me.

06:48:00.940 Mine was better.

06:48:02.560 Whatever.

06:48:02.880 Okay, Hannah.

06:48:05.140 We did.

06:48:06.000 Hold on.

06:48:06.300 We're almost done.

06:48:06.840 Guys, I'm telling you.

06:48:07.680 We're almost finished.

06:48:09.120 We're almost finished.

06:48:10.100 Sure.

06:48:11.100 Okay, we did Hannah's notes.

06:48:12.960 We did.

06:48:14.460 Oh, we forgot to do.

06:48:16.140 I guess I'll just have to read it.

06:48:17.200 The girl who was sitting there.

06:48:18.160 No, I think that's okay.

06:48:19.540 No, it's one thing.

06:48:20.620 She says she wanted to talk about, by the way, superficial.

06:48:23.520 She said she has some fire past sex locations, LMAO, like Taco Bell backshots.

06:48:32.580 That's literally what she wrote.

06:48:35.080 She's getting backshots at the Taco Bell.

06:48:40.040 At least, like, let it be.

06:48:42.920 I'm sorry.

06:48:43.700 That's hilarious.

06:48:44.480 Like, at least do it at a Chipotle.

06:48:46.960 Not to be rude, but that's, like, fucking, like, really gross.

06:48:50.160 That's hilarious.

06:48:50.680 That's, like, bottom of the barrel.

06:48:52.020 Like, why is that a fire past sex location?

06:48:54.620 I don't even know.

06:48:55.320 Maybe it was really good for her.

06:48:59.200 Maybe it was really good sex at the Taco Bell.

06:49:00.720 Good for her, but that's just, like, Taco Bell is just dirty.

06:49:04.660 What are some other, like, chain Mexican restaurants?

06:49:10.240 Chipotle.

06:49:11.100 Chili's.

06:49:11.860 El Torito.

06:49:12.720 Chili's.

06:49:13.120 El Torito, yeah.

06:49:14.620 Del Taco.

06:49:15.600 Chili's is, like, fusion.

06:49:16.780 Oh, yeah.

06:49:17.300 Del Taco.

06:49:17.980 El Torito.

06:49:19.180 El Pollo Loco.

06:49:20.260 I don't know.

06:49:20.800 That's a good one.

06:49:21.280 I'm at, man.

06:49:22.380 She should have.

06:49:24.080 She's forgetting about the El Pollo Loco back shots.

06:49:26.640 Let me tell you.

06:49:26.920 I feel like that's worse.

06:49:28.460 Okay.

06:49:29.200 Do we have Holly?

06:49:30.460 Who's Holly?

06:49:31.600 Holly?

06:49:32.340 Oh, no.

06:49:32.860 Sorry.

06:49:33.040 That was, okay.

06:49:34.280 Boom.

06:49:36.280 Bree.

06:49:36.980 I think we have your notes.

06:49:38.340 Uh-oh.

06:49:41.140 That's actually it.

06:49:41.900 Just Bree's stuff.

06:49:42.780 Okay.

06:49:42.940 We'll do Bree's stuff.

06:49:43.800 Here we go.

06:49:44.320 A few fun things.

06:49:44.820 Then we'll get this right.

06:49:45.700 Actually, you know what?

06:49:46.340 Here's what I'm going to have to do, guys.

06:49:47.660 We're going to do, uh, we're going to lower the TTS.

06:49:51.180 Hey, y'all.

06:49:51.660 Oh, my goodness.

06:49:52.420 Hey, come on.

06:49:52.880 You guys, you guys are in college.

06:49:54.720 You know?

06:49:54.940 You guys stay out 2 a.m., 3 a.m.

06:49:57.060 You guys got, get these girls a slice of pizza.

06:49:59.380 You guys want pizza?

06:50:00.400 I'm going to feed you.

06:50:01.120 Shay, I got you.

06:50:02.680 Mahi, you want some pizza?

06:50:03.700 Yeah.

06:50:04.080 Get these girls some food.

06:50:04.940 I want pizza.

06:50:05.460 Are you guys okay with cold pizza?

06:50:08.080 How dare you?

06:50:09.480 Absolutely not.

06:50:09.760 I'm sorry.

06:50:10.520 Shay, I apologize.

06:50:11.700 Thank you.

06:50:12.120 Very considerate of me.

06:50:13.040 You should apologize for all of this.

06:50:14.140 It's just, we can't use the microwave as the issue because it interferes with the Wi-Fi.

06:50:21.000 I swear.

06:50:21.720 What about the oven?

06:50:23.120 You have an oven?

06:50:23.560 We're streaming.

06:50:24.580 We can't, we can't fuck this shit up.

06:50:25.880 Oh, my.

06:50:26.600 I see an oven.

06:50:27.560 If you want, Nick will use friction.

06:50:29.540 Rub two pizzas together and just warm them up that way.

06:50:32.640 That's what he brings to the table.

06:50:33.760 Yes, yes.

06:50:34.280 I got you.

06:50:34.640 I got you.

06:50:35.100 Guys, here's what we're going to do.

06:50:36.180 We're going to lower the TTS.

06:50:37.120 We're going to do $69 TTS if you guys want to get a roast and $69 TTS.

06:50:41.300 The girls are giving me daggers with their eyeballs because they're like, Brian, oh, my

06:50:45.280 God.

06:50:46.540 So, I got to feed these girls.

06:50:48.020 I got to feed these girls.

06:50:48.800 I'm going to feed Mahi.

06:50:49.480 I'm going to feed Shay.

06:50:50.540 Who wants some pizza?

06:50:51.620 You want some pizza?

06:50:52.460 Pizza?

06:50:53.280 Pizza?

06:50:54.000 Pizza?

06:50:54.440 Maybe.

06:50:54.640 Okay, feed the girls.

06:50:55.300 They're hungry.

06:50:55.760 They're hungry.

06:50:57.400 Hungry.

06:50:57.780 They're hangry.

06:50:58.380 Okay.

06:50:58.740 I haven't eaten.

06:50:59.480 I should probably eat.

06:51:00.900 But I'll wait.

06:51:02.120 I'll wait.

06:51:03.480 Pizza?

06:51:04.640 Pizza?

06:51:05.440 Yes.

06:51:06.000 For you?

06:51:06.720 Yes?

06:51:07.060 Yes?

06:51:07.600 So, one, two, three, four, five, six?

06:51:10.540 Did you count me or not?

06:51:12.140 Oh, wait.

06:51:12.580 One, two, three.

06:51:14.580 Wait.

06:51:15.120 You want or don't want?

06:51:16.080 Yeah, yeah.

06:51:16.440 Oh, okay.

06:51:16.900 One, two, three, four, five, six.

06:51:20.120 Six slices.

06:51:21.740 Por favor.

06:51:22.600 Big slices.

06:51:23.600 Don't be stingy, Nick.

06:51:25.020 Nick, give them.

06:51:26.500 Don't, don't, you know, save the big slices for you.

06:51:28.760 Give them the big slice.

06:51:29.720 Okay.

06:51:30.020 Okay?

06:51:30.920 Okay, Nick.

06:51:31.500 Wait, is that a piece of glitter on your mustache?

06:51:35.000 What?

06:51:37.400 It's maybe a flake.

06:51:39.780 It's a sign he's gay.

06:51:41.240 Is it food or glitter?

06:51:43.260 Where have you been, Frank?

06:51:44.200 Either way, clean your mustache.

06:51:45.880 I'm being serious.

06:51:46.340 Is there actually glitter?

06:51:47.520 It's like a piece of glitter.

06:51:49.140 Okay, I'll have to go to the bathroom and fix it then.

06:51:51.740 Thank you for delaying the fucking...

06:51:54.020 Felicity, stop with your quips, bro.

06:51:56.420 I'm trying to wrap the show.

06:51:57.380 Hello?

06:51:58.020 Be considered a fucking...

06:51:59.280 You're the one derailing it.

06:52:00.580 Really?

06:52:00.840 You're talking about fucking glitter on my beard, lady.

06:52:03.300 Calm down, lady.

06:52:04.540 8 a.m.

06:52:05.320 I'm just scrolling you, relax.

06:52:06.500 How?

06:52:07.700 Okay, can you pass it?

06:52:08.540 Hey, Felicity, is that like a little hair grown from your mustache?

06:52:11.500 Yeah.

06:52:12.080 Okay.

06:52:12.540 My mustache is probably bigger than yours.

06:52:14.500 Whoa.

06:52:14.960 What else is...

06:52:16.400 A lot.

06:52:17.020 Never mind.

06:52:18.960 So you're...

06:52:19.800 Do you have a penis is what you're saying?

06:52:21.380 Oh, yeah.

06:52:22.020 That's fine.

06:52:22.400 Good times.

06:52:23.040 She, Felicity's got a giant wank.

06:52:28.440 Yeah.

06:52:30.200 All right.

06:52:30.760 $69 TTS if you want.

06:52:32.420 Get them in.

06:52:33.860 The bow video?

06:52:35.380 Okay, we'll do that.

06:52:36.580 What?

06:52:37.420 We'll do that.

06:52:39.500 Hold on.

06:52:41.300 I need to change a few things here.

06:52:43.440 Why don't you play the bow video?

06:52:44.980 Felicity, you run them through the bow video.

06:52:46.560 Yeah, explain it to them.

06:52:50.800 Explain it to them.

06:52:51.400 Okay, so this is a video of Brian's ex-girlfriend.

06:52:53.840 The question is...

06:52:54.380 That I took.

06:52:54.980 Would you bow for the perfect man?

06:52:58.600 Hmm?

06:52:58.960 What?

06:52:59.100 Would you bow for the perfect man if he asked you to?

06:53:03.520 I bow to Jesus.

06:53:05.260 But would you bow for like the perfect man?

06:53:09.440 Sure.

06:53:10.180 Yeah, show them the video.

06:53:10.980 Show them the video.

06:53:12.460 Put just window tab.

06:53:13.540 It's fine.

06:53:14.020 Window tab.

06:53:15.040 Thank you.

06:53:15.800 All right, go for it.

06:53:17.300 Guys, watch the video.

06:53:18.960 It's very short.

06:53:20.940 Go for it.

06:53:22.560 Boom.

06:53:23.280 Boom.

06:53:23.700 Huge bow.

06:53:24.640 Huge bow.

06:53:25.300 This is my expectation for my girlfriend.

06:53:27.800 She's got to hit a bow.

06:53:29.420 Got to hit a bow.

06:53:32.400 And then I had my...

06:53:34.340 I had my dinner ready.

06:53:37.840 Very nice of her.

06:53:38.840 She had my dinner ready to go.

06:53:41.620 Very, very based, submissive housewife.

06:53:44.420 I had to actually dump her, though, because...

06:53:46.520 Back to her ex-boyfriend?

06:53:48.180 Yeah.

06:53:48.940 Dumped her.

06:53:50.000 Oh, wow.

06:53:50.460 Dumped her.

06:53:51.720 Over.

06:53:53.080 That's quick.

06:53:54.200 I'm sorry.

06:53:54.880 One more time, Nick.

06:53:56.500 One more time.

06:53:57.220 Just the bow portion.

06:53:58.480 Boom.

06:53:59.300 All right.

06:53:59.700 So would you, for the perfect...

06:54:01.160 I guess the perfect guy, would you bow?

06:54:02.960 Yes.

06:54:03.200 Would you do that for the perfect guy?

06:54:05.100 What?

06:54:06.140 Perfect guy.

06:54:06.680 That's kind of silly.

06:54:10.740 Is he doing it for me, too?

06:54:12.560 No.

06:54:13.760 I don't know, man.

06:54:15.220 Next.

06:54:17.140 Okay.

06:54:18.320 As a joke, I think that'd be hilarious.

06:54:20.600 Like, every time they walk through the door, I just bow.

06:54:26.420 We're going around the table.

06:54:27.880 One at a time.

06:54:29.100 No.

06:54:29.320 One at a...

06:54:30.580 No?

06:54:31.460 Sure, why not?

06:54:32.240 Sure.

06:54:32.680 Sure.

06:54:33.120 Sure.

06:54:33.640 Yeah.

06:54:34.140 Yeah.

06:54:34.540 Oh, okay.

06:54:35.240 W?

06:54:35.680 No?

06:54:36.080 No, I don't think so.

06:54:36.800 You wouldn't do it?

06:54:37.480 No, I don't think so.

06:54:38.020 Question for you, though.

06:54:38.720 So you're a Christian, right?

06:54:40.540 You're a Christian?

06:54:41.140 Mm-hmm.

06:54:41.480 You said you would do it, or...?

06:54:42.820 Yeah.

06:54:43.360 Oh, okay.

06:54:43.760 So this is just for you, then.

06:54:45.020 Uh-huh.

06:54:45.360 Go ahead.

06:54:46.780 So you're a Christian.

06:54:49.920 Yeah.

06:54:51.720 So what does it say should wives in the Bible, right?

06:54:58.740 You like to cite to religion.

06:55:00.360 I will cite to religion also.

06:55:02.000 So the Bible does tell wives to what?

06:55:05.500 Submit.

06:55:06.340 Obey your husbands.

06:55:08.100 Yeah.

06:55:08.560 So if your husband said, hey, babe, I'd like you to bow for me, why would you not do it?

06:55:15.720 Well, I would hope that he wouldn't ask me that.

06:55:18.140 But if he did, I would have to if he was my husband.

06:55:21.620 So you would do it.

06:55:22.360 But I don't feel like God is going to send me someone that's going to make me bow to him.

06:55:25.300 So God will only send you a husband where there's never any disagreements, where he just agrees with you 100% on everything?

06:55:35.480 I don't think the guy that God has for me is going to make me bow before him.

06:55:39.500 I think also it says submit to your husbands as Christ does the church.

06:55:45.420 It also says submit to one another.

06:55:47.560 And it also says that husbands should die for their wives as Christ died for the church.

06:55:53.600 If you look at it in holistic content.

06:55:58.460 Well, I'm not.

06:55:59.300 So the final part you said there, yes.

06:56:01.200 I'm not sure about the submit to each other thing.

06:56:04.100 I'm not sure entirely.

06:56:04.840 They submit to one another.

06:56:06.100 I'd have to see the actual Bible verse.

06:56:07.880 And I'm not a theologian.

06:56:10.540 But there are specific.

06:56:11.920 So, okay, who submits to who?

06:56:13.380 Does the husband submit to the wife?

06:56:15.760 In the biblical marriage, does the husband submit to the wife?

06:56:18.920 No.

06:56:20.280 It says submit to one another.

06:56:21.960 No.

06:56:22.880 Look, I'm not going to argue that specific theological point.

06:56:26.640 But from a Christian perspective, Christian worldview, the wife should be submissive to the husband.

06:56:33.620 And it does not go the other way.

06:56:35.340 It also says that if he asks you to do anything that goes against what God asks you, you're not allowed to go against what God says.

06:56:45.560 So if he's asking you to do something immoral, you wouldn't do that.

06:56:49.360 Of course, of course.

06:56:50.000 Just to be clear.

06:56:50.820 So if you're a Christian.

06:56:51.360 So he's supposed to have this positive view and, you know, only ask good things of you as God would the church.

06:56:59.720 Sure.

06:57:00.260 Sure.

06:57:00.860 Of course, whether it's biblical submission or even regular submission in a secular relationship, if your boyfriend or husband says, okay, well, I'm dominant.

06:57:13.060 You're submissive.

06:57:13.720 Go jump off that building.

06:57:14.760 Of course, the woman can say no.

06:57:16.900 There's no dispute there.

06:57:18.940 Or, okay, smuggle these drugs for me.

06:57:23.540 Do these drugs.

06:57:24.520 The woman should say no.

06:57:26.800 But, like, okay, I want you to bow.

06:57:31.220 I probably should bow.

06:57:32.780 I said yes.

06:57:33.500 If you're Christian.

06:57:33.920 Yeah, I know.

06:57:34.420 I know.

06:57:35.740 Okay.

06:57:36.140 What was the next thing that we had?

06:57:39.080 Oh, Breeze Notes.

06:57:40.160 Breeze Notes.

06:57:40.640 Thank you, Felicity.

06:57:41.760 $69 TTS, guys.

06:57:43.220 $69 TTS for us.

06:57:45.060 Get them in, boys.

06:57:46.140 Get them in.

06:57:46.680 Speaking of, it's everybody's.

06:57:48.360 It's Shay's favorite Canadian.

06:57:51.660 Oh, my goodness.

06:57:53.520 I prefer my parents.

06:57:54.860 Thank you.

06:57:56.820 Third favorite Canadian.

06:57:58.100 Pasty George donated $70.

06:58:04.640 Hey, Brian.

06:58:05.940 Remember when Thin Brows wasn't your Caucasian when she refused to remove her makeup so you could get an Apple iPhone Air?

06:58:13.200 It was such an easy, simple act of kindness, too.

06:58:18.180 It's so true.

06:58:19.560 Oh, I was on whatever Wednesday.

06:58:21.120 Pasty was about to drop.

06:58:23.220 He was going to do an iPhone Air pop for me so I could buy an iPhone Air.

06:58:26.880 But then the girl wouldn't, like, do something that he asked, so he didn't do it.

06:58:32.820 Yep.

06:58:33.660 Yo, but W. Pasty George, man.

06:58:35.420 Hey, you know, she didn't.

06:58:36.840 Yeah, whatever.

06:58:37.340 She could have been the homie, but she wasn't the homie, so whatever.

06:58:40.480 Oh, we have our good friend Wisdom.

06:58:43.680 Barrier Wisdom donated $69.

06:58:46.380 Thank you.

06:58:47.040 Great show today, Brixen.

06:58:49.020 As a Woodland Hills local and Valley homeboy, I've analyzed Chair 4's liberal sass.

06:58:54.500 Ego inflated.

06:58:55.160 Oh, shit.

06:58:55.820 Grace depleted.

06:58:56.880 Oh, my goodness.

06:58:57.740 Redirect all LA-304's to Fueroa Street for reprogramming.

06:59:04.620 Nice.

06:59:05.380 Muchas gracias.

06:59:06.380 Good times.

06:59:07.260 Good times.

06:59:07.960 Thank you, Wisdom.

06:59:09.320 We have Wizard here.

06:59:12.620 Hold on.

06:59:13.200 Do you want to respond to that?

06:59:35.760 I didn't read it properly.

06:59:37.500 I didn't read it properly.

06:59:38.520 It was spoken.

06:59:42.500 Do you have trauma?

06:59:45.520 No.

06:59:45.880 Okay.

06:59:46.380 Okay.

06:59:46.420 Okay.

06:59:46.820 W.

06:59:47.880 W.

06:59:48.480 Um.

06:59:49.760 W.

06:59:50.440 No trauma.

06:59:50.940 Okay.

06:59:51.140 Uh, oh, it's our favorite Canadian.

06:59:53.580 Pasty George donated $70.

06:59:58.020 If all of the panelists do this easy, simple, selfless act of kindness of removing all of their facial makeup, then Brian gets a free iPhone Air.

07:00:07.200 If not, if not, this says a lot about them.

07:00:10.580 What if I just don't want Brian to get a free iPhone Air?

07:00:12.920 Yeah.

07:00:13.060 Yeah, she could be lit.

07:00:14.240 She could just do it out of spite.

07:00:16.400 Do it out of spite, Pasty.

07:00:18.520 I'm going to do it.

07:00:18.980 And she was going to take her makeup off.

07:00:21.020 By the way, Felicity doesn't.

07:00:23.100 Who wants to take their makeup off?

07:00:24.440 Anybody?

07:00:24.800 I don't wear makeup.

07:00:25.940 I'm not really wearing any.

07:00:27.500 Makeup?

07:00:27.900 You want to take it off?

07:00:28.600 Makeup?

07:00:28.980 Anybody?

07:00:29.640 Nope.

07:00:30.280 Uh, Hannah?

07:00:31.640 They said if any of the women.

07:00:33.400 Wait, did he say?

07:00:34.100 He said all.

07:00:34.900 Oh, he said.

07:00:35.720 Wait, does that include Felicity?

07:00:37.240 So we all have to agree?

07:00:37.840 Yes.

07:00:38.260 Yeah.

07:00:38.700 So if one of us doesn't agree, then.

07:00:40.460 Yo, I'll give you guys a kickback, though.

07:00:41.840 I'll give you guys a kickback.

07:00:42.860 You're going to give us a kickback for taking off our makeup?

07:00:45.340 Each of you gets a $2 bill.

07:00:47.760 Bro.

07:00:48.180 That's lame.

07:00:49.000 Do you know how much a $2 bill is worth?

07:00:51.160 $2.

07:00:52.060 Do you know how much a $2 bill is worth, Shay?

07:00:54.180 I have a lot of those.

07:00:56.080 Oh, my gosh.

07:00:56.960 You can go to a bank and ask for them.

07:00:59.480 Yeah.

07:01:00.020 Or you could just get it for free.

07:01:02.400 Wow.

07:01:02.720 Free $2?

07:01:03.920 Huge.

07:01:05.140 Huge.

07:01:06.000 Also, these $2 bills are special $2 bills.

07:01:09.440 Ooh.

07:01:10.000 Why?

07:01:10.200 That you can sell for, like, $2.50, probably.

07:01:13.180 That's right.

07:01:14.300 $2.50?

07:01:14.760 Okay.

07:01:15.240 Sorry, Pasty.

07:01:15.720 I don't think it's happening, Pasty.

07:01:17.460 But you know what?

07:01:18.380 I think if...

07:01:19.820 You know what I think we can do, Pasty?

07:01:22.420 If...

07:01:23.220 If...

07:01:23.700 You know what?

07:01:26.220 If you don't do the iPhone AirDrop, I'm going to have my homegirl here come to fucking

07:01:30.500 Canada and repossess your fucking Lambo, dude.

07:01:34.340 He's got...

07:01:34.820 No big deal.

07:01:35.760 He's got a Lamborghini.

07:01:38.320 I'm going to...

07:01:38.940 My homegirl here is a fucking repossession agent, son.

07:01:42.400 We know...

07:01:43.080 We'll find you, bro.

07:01:43.920 If he wants to give me the Lamborghini, I'll remove my makeup.

07:01:47.300 Oh, he wants to pay us.

07:01:48.300 We're going to find you, Pasty George.

07:01:49.380 If he wants to pay us, I'll take off my makeup.

07:01:51.140 Pasty George, we're going to...

07:01:51.720 That's a good deal for me.

07:01:52.620 None of it goes to you guys.

07:01:53.580 I'm going to negotiate with George.

07:01:54.740 Hey, fuck that shit.

07:01:56.140 Pasty George, we're going to fucking repossess your fucking maple leaf.

07:02:01.700 We're going to repossess your...

07:02:04.760 What do Canadians...

07:02:06.660 Hockey.

07:02:07.780 We're going to take your hockey pucks, Pasty George.

07:02:11.260 Take his hockey pucks.

07:02:12.360 Your poutine.

07:02:12.760 Poutine.

07:02:13.260 We're going to fucking repossess your poutine.

07:02:15.360 How did you say that term was?

07:02:16.820 You ship it and flip it?

07:02:18.640 What was the thing you said?

07:02:19.320 Hook it and book it.

07:02:20.180 Hook it and book it.

07:02:20.780 She's going to hook it and book it.

07:02:21.960 She's going to get all that poutine.

07:02:24.480 She's going to hook it and book it.

07:02:25.560 She's going to take your Lambo.

07:02:27.560 She's going to take maple syrup.

07:02:32.600 Pasty George, you know how Diddy had like a hundred cans, a thousand cans of like baby

07:02:37.660 oil or whatever?

07:02:39.300 Pasty George has like stacks on stacks on stacks of maple syrup.

07:02:44.080 Should we be concerned?

07:02:45.360 You should.

07:02:47.200 Wow.

07:02:47.660 I am.

07:02:48.680 Pasty George, he loves that on breakfast, on lunch, on dinner.

07:02:54.100 Sometimes if he's having a bad day, he puts a little hair, he puts a little bit of maple

07:02:59.200 syrup in his hair.

07:02:59.880 What do you think keeps it up?

07:03:00.740 How do you know this?

07:03:02.160 He tells me.

07:03:02.700 Have you been to his maple syrup parties?

07:03:04.660 Yes.

07:03:05.340 No.

07:03:05.740 Are you guys like friends or something?

07:03:07.360 This is interesting.

07:03:09.020 Yes.

07:03:09.500 He's my brother from another mother.

07:03:11.300 Okay.

07:03:12.840 He's my Canadian from another.

07:03:16.500 Nevermind.

07:03:17.620 Okay.

07:03:18.380 Sorry.

07:03:20.080 Sorry.

07:03:20.560 Pasty George donated $70.

07:03:25.400 It doesn't include Felicity because she is not a panelist.

07:03:29.940 Only 70 bucks?

07:03:31.020 So if the other girls, once the TTS got lowered.

07:03:33.600 That's funny.

07:03:34.560 Oh, I need to change that too.

07:03:37.780 You guys won't do it.

07:03:38.720 You guys won't do me a solid.

07:03:39.620 I thought we were all homies.

07:03:40.580 You're not my Caucasian.

07:03:42.020 Are you my Caucasian?

07:03:43.560 Boy, what?

07:03:44.480 Are you my Caucasian?

07:03:45.640 Yes or no?

07:03:46.800 Are you my Caucasian?

07:03:47.960 I don't think she likes you.

07:03:50.560 Thank you, Felicity, for pointing at fucking Sherlock Holmes over here, pointing out the

07:03:56.160 obvious.

07:03:56.520 I'm just letting you know.

07:03:57.940 Wait, Hannah's getting up.

07:03:59.020 I was about to ask if she's my Caucasian.

07:04:00.640 Are you my Caucasian, Jay?

07:04:02.620 No.

07:04:03.280 Rude.

07:04:04.100 Rude.

07:04:04.700 I can't say this to non-white people.

07:04:06.460 I'm half white, but I still would say no.

07:04:08.080 Still not?

07:04:08.760 Are you like Italian?

07:04:10.860 I'm kind of like a New Yorker.

07:04:11.780 I'm Middle Eastern.

07:04:14.000 Are Middle East?

07:04:14.680 Are they Caucasian?

07:04:16.300 Well, like racially, yeah.

07:04:18.560 They kind of are, you know what I mean?

07:04:20.400 Ethnically, yeah.

07:04:21.360 Well, like the Caucasian mountains in the Caucasian actually don't lie.

07:04:23.780 Well, mountains in Dagestan.

07:04:24.880 Wait, what?

07:04:25.860 Oh, my God.

07:04:28.100 Okay.

07:04:30.980 Probably not.

07:04:33.360 Probably not.

07:04:34.280 Are you my Caucasian?

07:04:34.960 What does this mean?

07:04:36.440 Are you my Caucasian?

07:04:37.160 What does this mean?

07:04:38.080 Dab me up, bro.

07:04:39.160 Are you?

07:04:40.340 Why would I do this?

07:04:42.440 Are you my Caucasian?

07:04:43.340 Um, but what is the question?

07:04:46.320 Just wait.

07:04:46.780 I'm almost, we're almost done.

07:04:47.720 Oh, my God.

07:04:48.020 Relax.

07:04:48.460 Okay.

07:04:48.720 I'm relaxed, but.

07:04:49.880 I'm talking to her.

07:04:50.600 I'm also Hispanic, so.

07:04:52.680 Oh, from where?

07:04:53.660 But you can be a white Hispanic.

07:04:55.480 Yeah.

07:04:55.580 Well, which country?

07:04:57.020 My mom is from Argentina.

07:04:58.420 Okay.

07:04:58.980 You mentioned that.

07:04:59.180 You're white.

07:04:59.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

07:05:00.640 You're white, bro.

07:05:02.400 There's a lot of Germans in Argentina.

07:05:05.780 Yeah, it's true.

07:05:07.440 So, are you my Caucasian?

07:05:10.500 Probably not.

07:05:11.380 I don't know that.

07:05:12.060 That's fucked up.

07:05:12.600 I don't know it.

07:05:14.460 Don't do it.

07:05:16.040 Do you guys not understand the Caucasian?

07:05:17.980 I don't know.

07:05:18.340 I don't get it.

07:05:19.100 You know, like how.

07:05:19.640 I understand.

07:05:20.300 I would never say this, but I'll have to explain it.

07:05:22.620 She knows what I'm talking about.

07:05:24.040 So, it's like.

07:05:24.900 Like, you know how black people can be like.

07:05:27.160 I'm not going to say it.

07:05:28.000 My N word.

07:05:29.200 Like, you're my N word.

07:05:30.820 You know?

07:05:31.340 Like, you could even say that to a white person, right?

07:05:33.480 Like, that's major props, by the way.

07:05:34.820 For, like, a black person to say that to a white person.

07:05:38.600 Like, do you want to say?

07:05:39.520 Just kidding.

07:05:39.820 Don't say that shit.

07:05:40.420 Um, but like.

07:05:43.340 Okay, Felicity.

07:05:44.240 Chill out.

07:05:45.120 But it's like.

07:05:47.140 It's the.

07:05:48.260 Uh, the.

07:05:50.000 Like, my Caucasian.

07:05:53.760 Okay.

07:05:54.540 Good talk.

07:05:54.840 Are you Irish?

07:05:58.480 Uh, I don't know.

07:05:59.680 I think I'm French.

07:06:00.800 And, like, Eastern European.

07:06:02.280 Did you just say?

07:06:04.700 Oh.

07:06:04.960 Yeah, because I am too.

07:06:06.560 Wait, what the fuck?

07:06:07.840 That was, like, kind of racist.

07:06:09.200 She's disgusting.

07:06:11.080 Wait, what countries?

07:06:12.440 I don't know.

07:06:13.300 She said.

07:06:13.680 What are you going to check my fucking 23 on me?

07:06:15.420 What are you?

07:06:16.680 Slovenian?

07:06:17.300 No, I'm not that.

07:06:18.880 And I'm.

07:06:19.520 Why, why, why would you say ooh to that?

07:06:23.440 Because she doesn't want to be related to it all.

07:06:25.420 Wow.

07:06:25.820 Okay.

07:06:26.140 That's.

07:06:27.180 That's kind of fucked up.

07:06:28.300 But I'm actually hurt.

07:06:29.780 I'm really hurt and depressed.

07:06:31.440 Well, nobody is.

07:06:32.280 You're Caucasian stuff this whole time today.

07:06:34.940 I'm a good sport.

07:06:35.260 I don't want to hear it.

07:06:35.960 I'm a good sport.

07:06:36.760 I can hear it.

07:06:37.300 Don't think people understand what a billionaire is.

07:06:41.520 It's average $270,000 per day income.

07:06:45.640 Most of you will be in debt for most of your life.

07:06:48.280 Oh.

07:06:48.780 Good luck.

07:06:49.640 Glad you're faithful.

07:06:49.940 Chance of anyone getting to $1 million in the U.S. is 6%.

07:06:54.200 Why is he so salty?

07:06:58.160 Yo, by the way, Wizard, did we get?

07:06:59.960 I know you sent in, like, a hundred a while ago.

07:07:02.300 And I think you sent a message.

07:07:03.780 We got it, though, right?

07:07:04.960 I'm pretty sure I got it, but it was a bit delayed.

07:07:07.300 Oh, that was a good crack.

07:07:09.800 Pasty George donated $70.

07:07:12.740 Brian, I don't like sports cars or expensive cars, remember?

07:07:17.700 Besides, I'd rather go canoeing on my reservations lake than drive an overpriced car.

07:07:23.600 However, I do like going skidooing and a-teeving.

07:07:27.180 Skidooing.

07:07:28.460 Skidooing.

07:07:29.400 Skidaddling.

07:07:30.480 Thank you, man.

07:07:31.240 Appreciate it.

07:07:32.280 Why don't you pull that up?

07:07:34.500 Eh, fuck it.

07:07:35.040 Whatever.

07:07:35.380 It's not worth it.

07:07:36.900 Yeah, I'd just forget it.

07:07:37.920 Barrier Wisdom donated $69.

07:07:41.140 Thank you, Pasty.

07:07:42.040 Ladies, great night overall.

07:07:43.720 These convos matter, cause modern datings is twisted.

07:07:47.580 We got to reevaluate politics, manners, culture, and figure out why things fell off.

07:07:53.420 Good night, y'all.

07:07:54.660 Except share for-

07:07:55.860 Good night to you.

07:07:56.720 I love you.

07:07:58.260 Yo, Wisdom.

07:07:59.100 Thank you, man.

07:07:59.680 They said except for me?

07:08:00.520 Yes.

07:08:00.920 Yes.

07:08:01.400 Oh!

07:08:03.060 You know what?

07:08:03.800 He likes skidooing.

07:08:05.280 I think they're really obsessed with you.

07:08:06.900 They?

07:08:07.640 Pasty George likes skidooing.

07:08:08.960 Why are you all so hateful?

07:08:10.740 I don't care.

07:08:10.840 Imagine if-

07:08:11.640 Maybe you might have to see you.

07:08:12.060 Yo, Pasty George, where's the fucking BMW pop?

07:08:15.060 Rude.

07:08:15.880 I'm so hateful.

07:08:17.320 Me?

07:08:17.700 Oh, we need to finish Bree's notes here.

07:08:20.920 Okay, Bree, we're going to blast through these.

07:08:22.840 $69 TTS, guys, get them in.

07:08:24.680 We're wrapping the show up here momentarily.

07:08:26.940 Fingers crossed.

07:08:27.880 Unless you guys start, you know, whatever.

07:08:30.220 Okay.

07:08:31.000 You've turned down a handful of billionaires.

07:08:32.800 Talked about-

07:08:33.360 Yeah, I know.

07:08:33.720 Talked about that.

07:08:35.320 You said that you've had a lot of clients try to date you.

07:08:38.440 You're a dating coach, professional matchmaker.

07:08:41.160 You said you worked with a matchmaker agency in OC, and there was one matchmaker.

07:08:49.100 They were dating multiple clients at the same time on the side, which is, I guess, against

07:08:54.300 the rules or whatever.

07:08:55.480 Well, duh.

07:08:56.540 Yep.

07:08:57.460 She was supposed to be matching them with actual people, but she was just hooking up with

07:09:01.820 them, dating them, whatever.

07:09:03.200 Yeah.

07:09:03.800 She was dating them off the books, you say.

07:09:06.060 She got caught and fired.

07:09:07.560 Some of the clients complained about her, and she was using her personal girlfriends

07:09:12.100 as matches and was charging the girls.

07:09:14.840 So, you're not supposed to charge the girls for matchmaking.

07:09:16.800 Charging the guys.

07:09:17.900 You charge the guys.

07:09:18.960 Mm-hmm.

07:09:19.520 Charge the guys.

07:09:20.500 You know, what's actually interesting related to something we talked about earlier is the

07:09:24.680 men being more-

07:09:27.200 I don't know if we really touched on this.

07:09:28.900 I think men are a bit more motivated when it comes to dating, relationship, sex, to the

07:09:34.480 point that, like, I don't think any girls here, like, would pay money the same way men

07:09:40.000 will pay money, whether it's sex, whether it's a matchmaker.

07:09:43.700 How much do these guys pay, typically?

07:09:45.440 A lot.

07:09:45.960 Like, 10K?

07:09:46.940 Five figures?

07:09:47.360 Minimum.

07:09:48.280 Minimum.

07:09:48.620 10K minimum.

07:09:49.620 Minimum.

07:09:50.020 And then do some men pay, like, six figures?

07:09:51.640 Way more.

07:09:52.540 Yes.

07:09:53.120 That's how desperate-

07:09:54.420 That's how desperate men are.

07:09:56.540 Are some of you guys out there?

07:09:58.380 You need my help?

07:09:59.040 Hey, do you want to recruit any of these girls?

07:10:00.960 I mean, actually, mostly-

07:10:01.680 Can you help me?

07:10:02.460 Not right now.

07:10:03.240 She needs some help.

07:10:04.160 She needs some help.

07:10:04.900 I need some help.

07:10:05.480 Maybe Hannah needs help.

07:10:06.680 She needs help.

07:10:07.860 Hey.

07:10:08.240 They got boyfriends.

07:10:08.960 You guys want help?

07:10:10.260 I will point-

07:10:11.060 Yes, I'll point them all in the right direction.

07:10:13.000 But it is interesting, like, women would never even think about spending this kind of money.

07:10:18.920 For sure, yeah.

07:10:19.920 And so, it's just interesting, the differences between-

07:10:23.780 I mean, I think that's actually a-

07:10:25.520 That's an indictment of men.

07:10:28.240 So, I should switch careers, is what you're saying?

07:10:32.660 If you want to, girl.

07:10:34.160 Why did you get into that?

07:10:35.680 We'll talk about this later.

07:10:36.420 Yeah.

07:10:36.620 Yeah, yeah.

07:10:37.540 Text me.

07:10:38.460 Yeah, I will.

07:10:39.140 But yeah, you were talking about this girl who's, like, dating the dudes, whatever.

07:10:42.120 She was dating a very wealthy lawyer.

07:10:44.900 He paid for her plastic surgery.

07:10:47.380 She got an entire makeover.

07:10:49.240 He paid for it.

07:10:50.140 Yep.

07:10:50.680 Man, that's crazy.

07:10:53.500 She was supposed to pay him back, but when she, whatever, she dumped him and never paid him back, I guess.

07:10:58.660 Yep.

07:10:59.180 Damn, crazy shit.

07:11:00.500 Yep.

07:11:01.680 Yep.

07:11:02.460 Okay, let's see here.

07:11:04.240 All true.

07:11:05.900 You talked, okay, young mom, toxic relationship.

07:11:08.880 We talked about that.

07:11:10.080 You think modern dating is complete garbage.

07:11:12.260 Pretty much talked about that.

07:11:13.620 Yep.

07:11:13.840 And then we talked a bit about your background, like Christian background, more like traditional family, so and so forth.

07:11:22.820 Trying to see if, okay, I think that's pretty much it for your notes.

07:11:29.060 That's pretty much it.

07:11:29.880 Did you want to go in a little bit in detail in, like, the matchmaking stuff?

07:11:35.060 Like, what about, what do you mean?

07:11:36.780 Oh, is there, like, a, does it work?

07:11:41.100 Like, are there, how about, can I ask you a question?

07:11:44.200 I've heard from, like, there's a TV show.

07:11:47.460 There was a woman, a female matchmaker.

07:11:49.300 Yeah, yeah.

07:11:49.500 And she was like, she actually didn't like working with women because she said the women were, like, way too picky.

07:11:56.880 Honestly, the women are the hardest to work with.

07:11:59.500 It's not the male clients.

07:12:00.840 They're actually pretty easygoing, even though they're powerful, affluent, have clout, and et cetera.

07:12:06.800 It's the women that are actually harder.

07:12:08.340 And when you say that, like, just high expectations.

07:12:11.120 Extremely high, yes.

07:12:11.840 And do you ever have to break it to a woman and be like, look, you're not going to get that kind of guy?

07:12:18.600 Do you ever have to do that?

07:12:19.920 There are times.

07:12:20.540 Yeah, yeah, there are times.

07:12:21.700 I mean, you do it very politely.

07:12:23.000 But, like, so when a woman comes to you, like, do you ask her what she wants?

07:12:29.080 Yeah, of course.

07:12:29.740 Oh, yeah, you thoroughly interview.

07:12:31.140 You thoroughly interview the client, obviously, because they're the paying client.

07:12:34.800 So, of course, you prioritize them above all.

07:12:38.780 And then, yeah, of course, you have to also interview the female, you know, potential counterparts as well.

07:12:44.800 So you do two separate interviews.

07:12:46.780 And then based on those interviews, you know, and your, you know, expertise, intuition, et cetera, then that's how you make the matches.

07:12:54.760 Yeah.

07:12:54.860 So what, I guess, like, would a girl, would a woman come to you and say, I'm a guy who's this tall, makes this much money, this kind of career, whatever, like, and do you ever have to tell the girl, be like, look, you're not going to get six foot three.

07:13:12.340 You're not going to get a billionaire.

07:13:14.420 Yeah.

07:13:14.840 You can do 250K.

07:13:16.660 And he's going to be five foot nine.

07:13:20.700 And he's going to be a little balding.

07:13:23.140 You ever do that shit?

07:13:23.760 Yeah, of course.

07:13:24.720 Okay.

07:13:24.920 Absolutely.

07:13:26.020 What's the most unrealistic ask?

07:13:28.760 We'll do both.

07:13:29.920 Unrealistic ask from a woman and from a man.

07:13:33.320 Okay.

07:13:34.980 Unrealistic ask for a woman is just, like, extremely wealthy.

07:13:41.780 No kids.

07:13:43.020 That's, you know, height is very important for most women.

07:13:50.240 I mean, like, literally 90% of the women I work with are, like, I only want a guy who's, like, so that's hard, you know, to get them to agree to date, you know, guys that are not at a certain height.

07:14:02.240 Height is a big one.

07:14:04.440 Obviously, money is a big one as well.

07:14:08.420 But, obviously, if they're a client of ours, then that's not typically an issue.

07:14:12.080 For men, it's usually they're much, much, much older.

07:14:16.960 And they don't want, they want women who are basically supermodel, beautiful, no kids.

07:14:23.200 Beautiful, young.

07:14:23.860 Certain eye color, certain hair color, certain skin.

07:14:27.120 You know what I mean?

07:14:27.620 Just, like, the whole nine yards.

07:14:29.720 And, but they're not really working with that physically.

07:14:33.780 You know what I'm saying?

07:14:34.500 So they're, like, trying to.

07:14:35.660 That makes sense.

07:14:36.000 Yeah.

07:14:36.380 So those are it.

07:14:37.840 Okay.

07:14:38.280 Let's see.

07:14:40.740 We have Pasty here.

07:14:42.380 Final call, guys, on the TTS.

07:14:44.140 Final call.

07:14:44.700 Get it in.

07:14:44.940 Pasty, George donated $70.

07:14:45.960 Final call.

07:14:46.620 Get it in.

07:14:46.800 I'm sorry, Brian.

07:14:48.560 I used the reservation reference.

07:14:51.240 Skidooing is snowmobiling.

07:14:53.140 I also once thought about taking flight lessons and buying a plane.

07:14:56.860 But I still fear heights.

07:14:59.260 LOL.

07:15:01.400 Nice.

07:15:02.620 Nice.

07:15:03.360 Okay.

07:15:04.040 Let me just see here.

07:15:05.420 There's, like, two or three more things super quick.

07:15:08.100 Then we're, promise you guys, we're getting out of here soon.

07:15:11.320 Let's see here.

07:15:14.360 Won't linger long, but I want a quick thing on this.

07:15:18.940 I know feminism came up briefly.

07:15:22.220 Do you guys think that women have equal rights to men in the USA?

07:15:29.260 Do you think women have equal rights?

07:15:32.180 We'll skip Felicity.

07:15:33.680 No.

07:15:34.380 Women don't have equal rights?

07:15:35.400 Okay.

07:15:35.620 What about you?

07:15:36.720 Yes.

07:15:37.380 Yes, they do.

07:15:38.280 Okay.

07:15:40.440 I don't.

07:15:41.420 I'm not quite sure, to be honest.

07:15:43.040 I don't.

07:15:43.560 Okay.

07:15:43.960 I'm leaning more towards no, though.

07:15:46.880 Okay.

07:15:47.360 But I'm sure.

07:15:48.560 I think we do.

07:15:49.760 You think you do?

07:15:50.700 Yes.

07:15:51.440 We do.

07:15:52.220 Okay.

07:15:52.960 So, was it you and you?

07:15:54.920 You guys said you think women don't have equal rights?

07:15:58.480 I'm unsure.

07:15:59.180 I'm not.

07:15:59.600 Yeah.

07:15:59.820 Quick follow-up.

07:16:00.580 Just what, I guess, what is the right that men have that women don't?

07:16:05.820 It's not necessarily, it's not necessarily, like, well, okay.

07:16:11.240 I guess maybe not right is the same word, but there's definitely not equal treatment.

07:16:15.320 Like, even the Equal Rights Protection Act wouldn't get passed, and that has gone through many

07:16:21.980 times and still won't.

07:16:25.360 Equal Rights Protection Act?

07:16:26.560 Equal Rights Act.

07:16:27.780 Yeah.

07:16:28.400 Something like that.

07:16:29.220 I'm not sure quite what you're referencing.

07:16:32.360 Well, what was the act trying to achieve?

07:16:35.320 Like, making men and women literally equal in the Constitution.

07:16:39.960 Was this federal level?

07:16:41.520 Was this in California?

07:16:42.320 It was federal level.

07:16:43.660 It's been tried a few times, but specifically during, like, civil rights movement in the

07:16:48.280 1960s.

07:16:49.260 Yeah.

07:16:49.420 I was going to say, like, isn't it Equal Rights of the 1960s or something like that?

07:16:52.640 Wasn't that passed?

07:16:53.780 Wasn't?

07:16:54.260 No.

07:16:54.500 So, Equal Rights Act of 1965 and 1964, the voting ones, those were passed.

07:17:00.320 But there was a specific one for women and men, and directly saying, like, in the Constitution,

07:17:07.620 women.

07:17:07.960 Because right now it just says men.

07:17:09.860 Obviously.

07:17:10.980 Well, wait, hold on.

07:17:12.080 You're talking about the Constitution?

07:17:13.480 Mm-hmm.

07:17:13.980 But you...

07:17:14.840 Like, making amendments.

07:17:16.360 But you do realize that it's sort of an English practice, but when you refer to men, like, it's

07:17:24.660 not, that's not actually, I know this might be hard to wrap it up, it's not actually gendered.

07:17:30.120 Like, mankind, for example, that refers to all of men and women.

07:17:37.140 It's not, like, mankind that it says, though.

07:17:39.480 It's, there is gendered language in there, and the point of it was to try to make it equal.

07:17:45.600 But...

07:17:45.920 And it wouldn't get passed.

07:17:46.900 I'm not an expert in...

07:17:47.820 And also, like, wage gap and everything.

07:17:49.320 Like, I know you said you don't think that exists.

07:17:51.300 Sure.

07:17:51.520 I think in some fields, it is 100% prevalent.

07:17:55.080 Like, even...

07:17:57.300 Well, actually, I can't bring that up.

07:17:58.600 Never mind.

07:17:59.360 Bring one up.

07:18:02.200 Come on.

07:18:02.920 Just say it.

07:18:03.480 No, like, never mind.

07:18:04.620 We're not supposed to talk about it.

07:18:05.960 Talk about what?

07:18:08.600 Oh, like, essay?

07:18:09.680 Is that what you're...

07:18:10.000 No, no, no.

07:18:10.560 Never mind.

07:18:11.780 Pause.

07:18:13.380 Wait, I'm confused.

07:18:15.580 Okay, well, I mean, as far as the etymology of men, somebody could probably break this down

07:18:20.440 way easier.

07:18:21.500 I actually don't recall the precise argument.

07:18:24.660 On, like, etymology?

07:18:27.300 Etymology?

07:18:27.840 Like, no, I know etymology.

07:18:29.400 But there's a specific term.

07:18:31.640 And maybe somebody...

07:18:32.840 I don't know if somebody's able to send in a TTS.

07:18:34.560 I'm not trying to bait.

07:18:35.220 But there is something with, like, men, the term men, or the term man, or mankind, more

07:18:43.300 specifically.

07:18:44.780 That does also apply to women.

07:18:52.960 Etymologically.

07:18:54.400 It's...

07:18:55.000 The point is, there are so many aspects of life where women and men are not equal.

07:19:04.040 In terms of rights, though?

07:19:07.340 Treatment.

07:19:07.740 But treatment, if somebody's a jerk to you, that's not, like, government-enforced...

07:19:14.820 Well, government isn't enforcing equal treatment, either.

07:19:18.540 Like, there's...

07:19:19.340 Well, for example, there's so many...

07:19:24.580 How do I say this?

07:19:26.220 The difference in crimes that...

07:19:33.060 Well, actually, I don't know.

07:19:33.960 That's kind of moving away from that.

07:19:36.160 No, go ahead.

07:19:36.560 Finish the thought.

07:19:37.380 Finish the thought.

07:19:38.440 I feel like you...

07:19:40.020 Like, I think we do have equal rights with men.

07:19:42.080 But I feel like you're just saying, like, societally, we're still not equal to men.

07:19:45.160 Like, the way we're looked at, just as, like, a whole society view, I feel like there's

07:19:48.960 a lot more that men can do that we can't, or, like...

07:19:51.140 Like what?

07:19:52.640 I feel like women still get a lot more self-shame than men.

07:19:55.480 Like, I feel like women get...

07:19:57.040 I think we're looked at a lot more differently than men, I feel like.

07:20:00.160 And I feel like...

07:20:00.740 Like, that's one aspect.

07:20:01.500 Like, I just feel like in aspects, I feel like women just have so much...

07:20:04.160 Still a lot more expectations than...

07:20:08.340 And men don't.

07:20:09.280 And we still get a lot more judged.

07:20:09.960 There's not expectations on men?

07:20:11.740 I feel like there is, like...

07:20:13.120 Less expectations on men?

07:20:14.360 I feel like there are less expectations on them.

07:20:16.320 And more on women.

07:20:17.500 I feel like we're just judged a lot more...

07:20:19.540 Men are judged more harshly?

07:20:21.160 Yeah.

07:20:21.360 Like, men are praised for, like, having a lot of partners, for instance.

07:20:29.020 Like, the more partners a man has, sort of, like, the more clout he has.

07:20:33.940 But then, like, for a woman, it's, like, there's stigma around it.

07:20:36.940 Well...

07:20:37.800 And also, like, men are praised for taking care of their baby.

07:20:42.500 No, I get it.

07:20:43.100 When mothers are, like, expected to do that.

07:20:45.400 And then if they take a break, they're abandoning their child.

07:20:48.840 Well, let's just, let's examine one thing at a time here.

07:20:51.420 And we won't examine everything, obviously, just for the sake of time.

07:20:54.360 The, like, the difference in, like, slut-shaming or whatever.

07:20:59.580 Me, personally, I dislike promiscuity in men.

07:21:03.960 I don't think it's cool.

07:21:05.280 I don't think it's good.

07:21:06.380 I think neither men or women should be promiscuous.

07:21:09.960 I don't think it's good for society.

07:21:11.480 I don't think it's good on the individual level, whether you're men or women.

07:21:14.100 I do think there are some differences between, clearly, differences between men and women as it relates to this, the potential impact of promiscuity on somebody.

07:21:24.400 Women carry, just because women face the risk of pregnancy, I think there's a bit of a higher burden there.

07:21:30.680 Like, if a woman is promiscuous, there is a potential higher risk there.

07:21:35.540 But also, kind of more from a dating lens, it's actually kind of, it's, like, about the difficulty of it.

07:21:44.340 Like, any woman can be a slut.

07:21:46.020 It's kind of, like, hard for a guy to be a slut.

07:21:48.100 Or it's harder, anyways.

07:21:49.700 Like, you take an average girl or even, like, an ugly, not to be mean or whatever, an ugly woman, she can be a massive slut.

07:21:56.720 Not so sure, like, an ugly guy, like, who's otherwise average, the ugly woman who's otherwise average, she can be a massive slut.

07:22:06.700 Ugly guy who's otherwise average, he can't be a slut.

07:22:10.640 Can't be a slut.

07:22:12.600 So, I think there's just a difference where it's, like, for women to get laid, you just kind of have to show up.

07:22:17.720 Whereas for a guy to get laid, it actually takes, like, something, you know?

07:22:22.620 Like, you have to have game, or if you lack game, you have to be good-looking.

07:22:27.780 If you lack that, you have to be funny.

07:22:29.400 If you lack that, you have to be, and sometimes you can be an amalgamation, but you have to have status.

07:22:34.420 You have to be famous.

07:22:35.120 You have to be something.

07:22:36.620 But, like, look, I'm not, and there are, well, I was going to say there are average guys who are plowing through chicks or whatever, but he's probably got game.

07:22:45.920 He's got something.

07:22:47.100 A woman can have no redeemable characteristics besides that she's just offering up pussy, and she can – I would actually argue this.

07:22:56.080 I think an unattractive, average, unremarkable woman, she can get laid more than a top-tier guy.

07:23:05.080 But that's not my argument.

07:23:07.040 Well, it's sort of – it's like, well, why – what's the difference here?

07:23:12.000 The reason why men get big-upped, yeah, man, that's dope, is because if something – like, for example, if you pat your head, that's easy to do.

07:23:25.740 But what if it's difficult for somebody to do that?

07:23:28.440 So there's a level of difficulty when it comes to getting laid that exists in men or some men that does not exist in women.

07:23:36.740 Any women, any woman can get laid super easy.

07:23:42.380 Just walk up to a guy.

07:23:43.160 Hey, do you want to fuck?

07:23:44.000 Sure.

07:23:45.100 If I walk up – and we've done this – I've actually done this experiment back in the day.

07:23:49.760 And I had a girl do it, too.

07:23:51.260 The girl walks up to dudes.

07:23:53.980 Hey, what's up?

07:23:54.480 You want to have sex?

07:23:55.700 Boom.

07:23:56.280 Yep.

07:23:56.820 Let's do it.

07:23:57.720 Where's your place?

07:23:58.440 Let's go.

07:23:59.300 If I walk up to a girl.

07:24:01.400 Hey, what's up?

07:24:01.860 I thought you're – I can even be, like, as tactful about it as one could be.

07:24:07.840 Hey, I think you're cute.

07:24:08.820 Do you want to go hook up?

07:24:09.960 Do you want to have sex?

07:24:11.860 Not happening.

07:24:12.720 Watch.

07:24:13.180 Check this out.

07:24:14.600 Who's single here?

07:24:15.360 Should we – after the show, do you want to have sex?

07:24:18.720 No.

07:24:19.240 After the show, do you want to have sex?

07:24:20.280 No.

07:24:20.620 After the show, do you want to have sex?

07:24:22.660 Break your celibacy.

07:24:23.560 Do you want to have sex?

07:24:25.740 See, exactly.

07:24:26.460 See?

07:24:26.800 Shit.

07:24:27.920 I feel like y'all could go up to a – and by the way, I wasn't – that was just for the sake

07:24:31.520 of – argument.

07:24:32.720 I wasn't actually rudely propositioning you guys.

07:24:36.800 Just for the sake of – to make a point.

07:24:38.760 So it's harder for men.

07:24:40.260 It's harder.

07:24:40.920 That's why it's – now, again, I don't think promiscuity is good in men.

07:24:44.540 And especially what bothers me is these guys will lie to women.

07:24:50.220 They'll – you girls can probably relate to this.

07:24:52.260 Well, not signaling any of you out, but some dastardly thing guys will do is they'll tell

07:25:00.400 the girl that he has, like, a more serious interest in her just so he can get laid, and

07:25:07.320 they'll lead a girl on.

07:25:08.260 They'll lie to the girl, and he has no interest.

07:25:10.420 He just wants to get laid.

07:25:11.740 He has no interest.

07:25:12.960 Now, look, some women are fine with casual sex.

07:25:15.940 But there's definitely a component of guys misrepresenting their interest, making them

07:25:25.980 seem like they want something more, but they don't.

07:25:28.580 They get the sex.

07:25:30.680 Maybe they ghost.

07:25:31.600 Maybe they hit and quit it.

07:25:33.580 But they led you on to think that they wanted more.

07:25:36.260 That's wrong.

07:25:36.900 100% wrong.

07:25:37.760 Shouldn't do it.

07:25:38.300 So, yeah, I don't think men should be promiscuous because no bueno.

07:25:45.180 No bueno here.

07:25:46.020 But we'll move on from that.

07:25:47.480 We have chats.

07:25:49.620 Pasty George donated $70.

07:25:52.340 There were actually two constitutions in Canada.

07:25:55.660 In the former one, the government had less control than it has now.

07:25:59.700 Also, social spending was much better back then compared to today.

07:26:06.000 W. Pasty George.

07:26:07.080 Thank you, man.

07:26:08.300 Thank you, Pasty George.

07:26:11.700 We have another one coming in from Bug Pullout.

07:26:14.200 What the heck?

07:26:14.840 Bug Pullout donated $69.

07:26:16.940 What is that?

07:26:17.480 What's the name?

07:26:18.060 Equal Rights Act 2020 added gender identity language.

07:26:22.460 Men are not women.

07:26:23.940 Feminism bullcrap.

07:26:26.840 But as far as rights go...

07:26:28.460 Wasn't he kind of putting his weight?

07:26:33.420 Okay.

07:26:34.440 Well, I mean, obviously, you listed a bunch of things.

07:26:37.560 I obviously don't have time to debate you on every single one of them.

07:26:41.200 But I haven't actually heard a truly compelling way in which men possess rights that women don't.

07:26:49.860 Is there anything you can point to super quick?

07:26:51.600 I won't really linger on it, but...

07:26:53.160 Shay?

07:26:55.780 Like, any right that the man has?

07:26:58.020 Like, what right do I have that you don't?

07:26:59.900 Sorry, I'm actually exhausted.

07:27:05.760 We are being kept here an hour and a half.

07:27:08.000 That's right.

07:27:08.380 They're all chained to the table.

07:27:09.800 An hour and a half.

07:27:10.600 They're...

07:27:11.000 More.

07:27:11.360 But do you want to just engage super quick?

07:27:13.000 No.

07:27:14.280 You don't want to?

07:27:15.020 No.

07:27:16.300 One thing?

07:27:16.960 Just throw out?

07:27:17.480 No, I'm good.

07:27:17.680 Throw something out?

07:27:18.400 Okay.

07:27:18.600 Do you think, really quick then, do you think women are oppressed in the USA?

07:27:24.520 I think they're...

07:27:26.600 I wouldn't say oppressed.

07:27:28.980 I would say they're...

07:27:33.900 Oppressed is too far, but I don't think we're equal.

07:27:37.660 That's it.

07:27:40.000 In terms...

07:27:40.780 But not in terms of...

07:27:41.720 Not oppressed.

07:27:45.800 Okay.

07:27:46.180 All right.

07:27:47.100 Not oppressed.

07:27:49.360 Do you think men are more privileged in society?

07:27:52.280 Yes.

07:27:52.420 Okay.

07:27:52.960 I mean...

07:27:53.400 For sure.

07:27:54.480 How so?

07:27:55.500 I think, actually, women possess certain rights that men don't, and I actually would make the

07:27:59.720 argument that in many metrics, like the worst life outcomes, men disproportionately occupy

07:28:07.600 the worst outcomes in life, and, yeah.

07:28:13.560 I feel like women always have to, like, prove...

07:28:15.460 We always have to prove ourselves.

07:28:16.860 Like, I feel like men...

07:28:17.960 So do men.

07:28:18.820 No.

07:28:19.200 No.

07:28:19.500 I feel like men...

07:28:20.260 I feel we have to earn more respect.

07:28:22.040 Like, in a workplace, I feel like...

07:28:23.480 There's affirmative action.

07:28:25.100 Women actually...

07:28:25.920 Affirmative action in California is not.

07:28:26.680 But I'm not saying it'll affect us in any way.

07:28:27.940 It got revoked, bro.

07:28:29.680 No, it's still there.

07:28:31.440 Look that up.

07:28:31.840 I'm pretty sure.

07:28:32.720 Look that up.

07:28:33.020 I could be wrong, but...

07:28:33.920 Look that up.

07:28:34.580 Okay.

07:28:34.900 I looked it up.

07:28:36.200 I'm right.

07:28:36.580 No, just kidding.

07:28:37.160 Go ahead.

07:28:37.600 I guess, like, if we look at, like, the most negative outcomes in life, you look at homelessness,

07:28:48.040 you look at suicidality, you look at workplace deaths, you look at violence, men are more

07:28:55.100 likely to be victims of violent crime.

07:28:57.660 Violent crime, yep.

07:28:58.640 You disagree?

07:29:00.000 Men are more...

07:29:00.500 I don't know why you're laughing.

07:29:01.380 Men are more likely to...

07:29:01.800 I want to see your stats on that.

07:29:03.900 I'm not talking about SA.

07:29:04.820 I'm talking about overall, in totality.

07:29:07.600 Violent crime.

07:29:08.420 Men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.

07:29:10.840 Victims and commit the crimes.

07:29:12.480 Yeah.

07:29:13.240 Well, I'm not talking about the perpetrators.

07:29:15.040 I'm talking about the victims.

07:29:15.640 I know, but it's true.

07:29:16.240 It's a fact.

07:29:18.000 Oh, yeah, sure.

07:29:18.620 I'll grant it.

07:29:19.120 For the sake of conversation, men are more likely to commit violent crimes.

07:29:22.560 Sure.

07:29:24.380 And?

07:29:25.280 I'm just saying what you said was true.

07:29:27.800 Oh, yeah.

07:29:28.880 Yeah.

07:29:29.240 Okay.

07:29:33.400 And, you know, if we look at education as a metric by which men or women can have it

07:29:38.560 better, even at UCSB, the school you guys go to, I believe the breakdown is 60-40, something

07:29:44.660 like that, 60% women, 40% men, women are much more.

07:29:48.900 Ever since the 1980s, women have been more likely to go to college, graduate from college, get

07:29:53.840 a college education, get a degree, if these are all metrics that in the past, when women

07:29:57.940 have to, to get a job where men can, men can what?

07:30:02.420 Men can get jobs easier because they don't have to prove themselves.

07:30:06.060 People automatically assume men are going to be better at specific jobs.

07:30:09.640 So you're saying, uh, hold on.

07:30:13.420 Um, women have to go to college to compete with men who are not college educated.

07:30:20.280 There's definitely that.

07:30:21.300 So she wants to be a psychologist.

07:30:23.660 Yeah.

07:30:23.940 She has to work harder to prove herself, especially in a male, demonstrate it, demonstrate it.

07:30:28.000 So hold on.

07:30:28.480 So she, your, your position would be that she has to go to, I don't know if you have to

07:30:33.640 go to med school for you, you do like a graduate program or whatever.

07:30:38.000 So the, the guy who dropped out of city college gets her job, a clinical psychologist, or does

07:30:47.720 she have to go do all the schooling to become a clinical psychologist harder to get the same

07:30:53.060 job?

07:30:53.360 What evidence do you actually have for that?

07:30:55.100 Look it up.

07:30:55.760 How does she have to work hard?

07:30:56.800 What?

07:30:57.280 So, okay.

07:30:57.580 When you take a test, does the professor be like, okay, here, um, here's a coloring book

07:31:03.580 for all the men coloring the lines and the women, uh, here's like advanced, uh, here's

07:31:10.360 like a 100 point, a hundred point multiple, multiple answer.

07:31:15.060 What is a multiple answer?

07:31:16.720 Multiple choice.

07:31:17.440 Thank you.

07:31:17.780 Multiple choice question.

07:31:18.960 Uh, the, the women get the hundred question, multiple choice questionnaire.

07:31:21.920 Uh, the men, uh, good boys, good boys.

07:31:25.960 Here's a color in the book.

07:31:28.740 You think that's how it is?

07:31:29.860 Or the same test that she takes.

07:31:31.900 You have a way of trying to just make arguments sound stupid when they're not.

07:31:36.020 Am I gaslighting?

07:31:36.820 You are.

07:31:37.280 Is that what I'm doing?

07:31:38.040 No, but is it actually the case?

07:31:39.440 Do the men in college receive different tests?

07:31:43.680 That was never what I was arguing.

07:31:46.580 But okay.

07:31:47.240 But if, if the metric, if the, and actually, well, I won't go there, but.

07:31:51.920 If the metric is, uh, your, your argument is, well, the, the women have to work harder.

07:31:57.540 They get the same test.

07:31:58.960 They have the same assignments.

07:32:02.300 You think the professors are just benevolently sexist towards men and they're like about college.

07:32:07.760 It's not about in college.

07:32:09.660 Ah, so there's no sexism in college.

07:32:12.100 Aside from the fact that women are more likely to go to college.

07:32:16.040 I never said there was.

07:32:18.300 Okay.

07:32:18.600 No, but you said it's not about college.

07:32:19.820 You're always trying to twist words.

07:32:21.080 I've noticed that as a theme.

07:32:22.940 No, but you said women have a harder time.

07:32:24.780 So wouldn't this, wouldn't an extension of that, it wouldn't just be the workplace.

07:32:28.680 It would also be in university.

07:32:30.460 That would make sense.

07:32:31.280 It would make sense to me that if women broadly have things harder, they have to work harder

07:32:36.460 in, at a job, I would assume they have to work harder in college too.

07:32:39.600 Right.

07:32:39.960 Or is there a perfect equality?

07:32:41.320 And did you go to college?

07:32:41.980 Uh, yeah.

07:32:43.780 Well, I dropped out.

07:32:44.580 Mm.

07:32:44.980 Yeah.

07:32:45.380 Mm.

07:32:47.520 Okay.

07:32:48.160 So, and?

07:32:49.960 Interesting.

07:32:50.500 Again, I never let my, uh, I never let college get in the way of my education.

07:32:55.760 I'm doing pretty well.

07:32:57.260 Okay.

07:32:57.980 Good for you.

07:32:58.480 Look, I'm fine with college sort of ish, but I, I don't think that college is necessarily

07:33:05.160 an indicator of one's, uh, intelligence or one's capacity for knowledge or wisdom or

07:33:12.240 any of these things.

07:33:12.920 Are you dissatisfied?

07:33:15.740 I don't have the proper, I don't have the 1230 AM and I don't have the proper bonafides.

07:33:21.620 How do you say it?

07:33:22.440 The bonafides or whatever.

07:33:24.280 Uh, what would, if I graduated from UCSB, would that be, would what I'm saying matter more?

07:33:30.200 Okay.

07:33:30.420 She's checked out.

07:33:31.480 If I graduated from UCSB, would my, would I say hold more weight for you?

07:33:35.380 It's 1230 in the morning.

07:33:36.360 Just answer the question.

07:33:37.520 I don't even know what you said.

07:33:38.700 If, if I graduated from Harvard, would what, what I'm saying here hold more weight?

07:33:47.960 I'm just asking.

07:33:48.800 You can answer the question.

07:33:49.880 That's right.

07:33:50.120 I didn't see what you said.

07:33:51.000 I hear what you said.

07:33:52.240 You just asked me to repeat it.

07:33:53.560 And I just did.

07:33:54.980 I mean, it's just making the show go on longer.

07:33:57.720 Okay.

07:33:57.900 I mean, you can just answer, but whatever.

07:34:01.620 Pasty George donated $70.

07:34:03.520 Here we go.

07:34:03.840 I wish Rachel Wilson was on this show to put some of these delusional feministic panelists

07:34:09.780 in their place because they will always be bad faith with Brian because he is a man.

07:34:15.100 Sexist.

07:34:15.680 Yeah, Rachel, Rachel would be good.

07:34:18.660 Oh, this is pretty bad faith.

07:34:21.600 Okay.

07:34:21.860 Just saying.

07:34:22.520 I guess.

07:34:24.880 Can women be sexist?

07:34:26.500 Let's just prove them wrong that it's not just because, because Brian is a man that you're

07:34:30.500 not answering the question.

07:34:31.740 Just answer his question.

07:34:32.880 Because that's, I was, I was actually ready to, I was ready to move on.

07:34:36.360 Oh, okay.

07:34:36.880 Perfect.

07:34:37.480 I never said that.

07:34:38.440 I don't, I actually, and to be fair, I don't think she's refusing to answer the question

07:34:41.880 because I don't think it has to do with the fact that I'm a man.

07:34:44.860 To be fair to her, I don't think it's because I'm a man.

07:34:46.800 Oh, he's a man.

07:34:47.620 I'm going to stick it to him.

07:34:48.440 No, I don't.

07:34:48.940 I think if it was a woman arguing this, she'd probably be the same.

07:34:52.440 How about this?

07:34:53.160 Can women be sexist towards men?

07:34:55.900 No.

07:34:56.800 No.

07:34:57.040 Okay.

07:34:58.400 Does this also.

07:34:59.100 Wait, why are we just asking me questions?

07:35:00.400 I don't know.

07:35:01.780 Cause you seem like you're the most.

07:35:04.400 Do I seem like I'm here enough?

07:35:05.700 The most feminists of the group.

07:35:07.940 How about this?

07:35:08.680 Here's it.

07:35:08.940 I'll open up to the whole panel.

07:35:11.000 Not dating related at all, but fuck it.

07:35:12.760 Whatever.

07:35:13.120 Felicity begged me to ask this.

07:35:14.340 Um, if women can be sexist towards men, can, uh, people of color be sex or, excuse me,

07:35:21.080 can people of color be racist towards white people?

07:35:25.240 Starting with you.

07:35:25.980 Then we'll go around the table.

07:35:28.340 Like in a Hispanic person, be racist towards pale pasty white.

07:35:34.400 Nope.

07:35:34.860 Okay.

07:35:35.180 What do you think?

07:35:36.380 Yes.

07:35:36.780 But it's not systematic racism.

07:35:38.660 Like every person of color is experienced.

07:35:41.880 So yeah, actually.

07:35:42.940 Yeah.

07:35:43.720 Well, I'm just, I get, I understand there's different categories of racism, but I think

07:35:48.340 in the like common parlance, is that even a word?

07:35:51.200 Uh, I feel like it kind of, like, I feel like it's not comparable though.

07:35:55.900 Like obviously there is, and I feel like you have to make that clear.

07:35:58.920 Like there can, you can't be racist to white people, but not to the same degree of everyone

07:36:03.680 else.

07:36:04.060 Well, are you talking systemic or just across the board?

07:36:06.160 You can't be systemic to, you can't, there can't be a systemic racism towards white people.

07:36:10.780 Well, it's technically possible.

07:36:14.780 But when has it ever happened?

07:36:16.900 Well, I guess it depends on what system is.

07:36:19.560 Like there's no place in the world that ever.

07:36:21.360 Well, how about like, for example, um, if we're talking about affirmative action in the

07:36:26.520 university system, so we've, we've often, often seen, um, that with the preferential

07:36:33.200 enrollment, for example, Asian Americans, uh, and I, well, are you, you're in, in the

07:36:41.820 UK, for example, are you like, uh, what's your ethnicity?

07:36:45.360 I'm sorry.

07:36:45.860 I'm Indian.

07:36:46.880 Indian.

07:36:47.360 So they would, some in the UK, they would consider, consider Indian Asian, right?

07:36:51.580 I don't know if you would make that distinction, but we're South Asian.

07:36:55.020 Yeah.

07:36:55.320 Yeah, exactly.

07:36:56.520 Um, so I think this would actually, you would fall under this criteria at Harvard, um, in

07:37:01.620 order for you to, you're, you're like SAT scores, other metrics to be able to get into Harvard.

07:37:07.540 Um, it actually would be, uh, it has to be higher than a white person's.

07:37:14.300 And it also goes in a different direction though.

07:37:16.740 Um, you have to have higher SAT, way higher SATs than the black person or a Latino person

07:37:21.900 or native American person to get into Harvard.

07:37:24.420 And so this was discrimination towards, uh, Asian people.

07:37:29.100 But I don't, that, that occurred.

07:37:30.660 I don't really consider that racism though.

07:37:32.880 But if it's the case, for example, you say white people, um, if it's harder as a white

07:37:38.520 person to get into Harvard than it is for a Latino person or a black person, just, and

07:37:43.780 this is, you can look it up.

07:37:45.340 There's a lawsuit over this.

07:37:46.880 Um, Harvard was doing preferential stuff with SAT scores.

07:37:52.120 You had to have a higher SAT score as this.

07:37:54.600 Well, I've seen, yeah, I've seen the study.

07:37:55.920 Like I've seen people sue because of it, but I don't.

07:37:58.900 Right.

07:37:59.100 But so would it then be like some sort of evidence if at Harvard, it was harder to get into Harvard

07:38:06.060 if you're white.

07:38:07.380 But that's not like the systemized race that I'm talking about.

07:38:09.140 It's a system.

07:38:09.160 Oh, hold on.

07:38:09.940 The university.

07:38:10.820 It's not the scale compared to everyone else's though.

07:38:12.700 Wait, the university system is.

07:38:15.100 By the way, university system.

07:38:16.740 But I'm talking about like major, like.

07:38:17.560 It's a system.

07:38:18.980 And it, there's, you'd agree it's a system?

07:38:21.940 Universities?

07:38:22.400 But I'm.

07:38:23.120 What system are we talking about?

07:38:25.140 Sorry, go ahead.

07:38:25.520 Like I'm just talking about like every, like Indians, like the white people colonized us

07:38:29.440 for like hundreds of years.

07:38:30.580 And for black people, there was slavery.

07:38:32.880 Native Americans, they were.

07:38:34.580 Terrible stuff.

07:38:35.220 Yeah.

07:38:35.500 But I don't, that's never really happened to white people.

07:38:38.100 Like no.

07:38:38.840 Are you sure?

07:38:40.180 What?

07:38:40.700 Well, you know the origination of the term slave?

07:38:42.780 Slav, Slavic.

07:38:45.780 So white people have been slaves.

07:38:46.940 But was it white against white though?

07:38:49.380 It wasn't like.

07:38:50.520 Well, if you look at like the Muslim conquests into Europe, they absolutely took slaves.

07:38:55.460 If you look at the Muslim conquests.

07:38:57.340 But in like recent day, like in the past few like centuries.

07:39:01.240 When did they expel, like when, when was the, so the Muslims made it up to, was it

07:39:07.720 the Ottoman?

07:39:08.560 I'm forgetting.

07:39:09.360 They made it up to Vienna in Austria, right?

07:39:11.440 I believe.

07:39:12.780 I think that was in the 1600s.

07:39:15.360 Okay.

07:39:15.720 But like 17th century onward.

07:39:17.820 Because that's really what we truly learn about.

07:39:19.600 But then I would just turn this around at you and say, well, when was slavery ended?

07:39:23.020 Just because something happened a long time ago doesn't mean.

07:39:25.180 But it wasn't really a long time ago.

07:39:26.600 Yeah.

07:39:26.820 Sure.

07:39:27.780 African-American slavery in the United States is more recent.

07:39:31.000 Yeah.

07:39:31.700 Yes.

07:39:31.920 And like, so like, so in India too, we haven't even had, they haven't even had a hundred

07:39:35.720 years of like a free.

07:39:37.360 Yeah.

07:39:37.600 I mean, I would point out that actually Western countries, which are a white majority actually

07:39:43.700 have ended slavery sooner than like other countries.

07:39:46.280 I know.

07:39:46.540 But I'm just saying like white people have never had that type of like oppression.

07:39:49.800 It's only been.

07:39:51.300 But has it been from a different type of race?

07:39:53.960 The Barbary slave trade.

07:39:55.060 But a different type of race.

07:39:56.180 Yes.

07:39:56.700 Other races.

07:39:57.540 But then that was like so long ago.

07:39:58.540 Other races have definitely enslaved white people.

07:40:01.060 We just like to conveniently ignore it.

07:40:02.600 And just to be clear, you know, the plight of African-Americans or at least their ancestors.

07:40:07.720 I mean, we've grown as a society too.

07:40:09.040 Absolutely terrible thing.

07:40:09.800 Terrible thing.

07:40:10.240 That happened so long ago.

07:40:11.760 And the past few like centuries, it's still happened.

07:40:14.480 Yes.

07:40:14.640 I realize that certain things are more in recent history.

07:40:18.000 But it's all been recent.

07:40:18.900 Like for every, mostly all, every other race has been recent except for white people.

07:40:23.140 Slavery is not my field of expertise, but we do see that there's in fact, slavery still

07:40:29.200 ongoing in certain countries.

07:40:31.700 And it's not white people who are enslaving people.

07:40:34.460 Well, I'm not saying it's all white people.

07:40:35.100 But I'm just saying like nothing of that, nothing has ever really happened to white people in

07:40:39.240 that area in the past few centuries.

07:40:41.120 Like it has happened to every other race.

07:40:44.120 You know, I'm, again, this isn't my wheelhouse.

07:40:46.740 I do think that there might actually be some, some evidence that in say the past 200 years,

07:40:53.880 there probably has been.

07:40:56.720 But anything like wide scale, like to the degree of every other race.

07:41:00.460 Right now there are more slaves than there ever were during the period of period of period

07:41:04.280 movement.

07:41:06.200 Most of them are white people.

07:41:10.240 Sex trafficking.

07:41:11.100 yeah wait grid you want to just sit down really quick because we're wrapping the show here so if

07:41:26.060 you want to do your do your little cameo do your little cameo grid uh why don't you do you want to

07:41:31.700 just felicity you want to scoot over one oh wait felicity you scoot over one and grid's taking

07:41:37.440 chair one oh uh have him go that way have him go that way but wait hold on um i don't want to no go

07:41:46.480 ahead go ahead come come sit um so we were talking about like can people of color be racist towards

07:41:53.840 well i'm just saying here i want to move off of i'd agree with you generally like white people have

07:41:59.320 certain uh like white people are the majority of the country perhaps they confer some benefits from

07:42:05.580 this but i'm when i'm talking about racism i want to and i acknowledge that there are systemic there

07:42:10.480 is systemic racism whatever um if a white person walks up to a black person and calls them the n-word

07:42:18.480 and then beats them up is that racism why are you thinking about it yeah of course right uh if a

07:42:24.860 black person walks up to a white person says i you you piece of shit white person beats them up is that

07:42:30.240 racism take a little longer on this answer this isn't systemic this is individual racism or do you

07:42:40.140 is that i mean adding the n-word to it is racist okay the black person calls them i'm not going to

07:42:46.700 say it but calls them the c-word and i understand that that doesn't carry as much weight as the n-word

07:42:52.420 well yeah that is but i said from the beginning like you can be racist towards white people but

07:42:57.700 it's not systemized racism but okay so here i'll remove the slur component because there's a

07:43:04.200 there certain slurs are more offensive than others uh black person walks up to a white person says

07:43:09.760 uh hey uh whitey or maybe i should not is that pro i don't know hey white per i don't like white

07:43:18.260 people boom punches them in the face yeah that's racist if if the black person did that did i say

07:43:24.180 the white person does it to the black person no you had it right yeah you were good yeah

07:43:29.180 so it's racist both ways yeah oh okay i just said there it's white people don't face systemized

07:43:36.140 oppression like systemized racism like all the other races though like i'm not saying i'm not denying it

07:43:40.720 but i think also like there's different levels to it and if uh can i if i were to go to india

07:43:48.200 and people there were like tolerant could there be systemic racism against white people in non

07:43:56.760 white majority countries

07:43:58.580 yes why why the hesitation like if i went to china and you still really understand well if i went if i

07:44:10.220 went to china and like what are my hopes of ever like infiltrating the ccp and like having any sort of

07:44:17.620 power in their government um like what as a as a white person in china you would agree that

07:44:25.480 chinese people are the majority people in china so what i don't have i don't have systemic power

07:44:32.180 in china i'm white chinese people have systemic power in fact i would argue actually america is quite

07:44:40.080 uh you can't own property uh yeah scooting to the table just sorry yeah you're good um yeah in china

07:44:47.600 you can't own property there's a lot of freedoms if you're you know if you live in america say that

07:44:52.780 systemized racism though you can't you can't vote in their elections you can't i would say that's

07:44:56.800 individual racism yeah if you wait in china if i'm in china yeah like that's still not systemized

07:45:01.740 racism because there's never been a period in that place where white people were oppressed

07:45:06.080 like wide scale well what what if okay how about this um the the chinese government passed a law that

07:45:14.060 only like native born chinese people can ever have a place in the and i don't know the immigrant i don't

07:45:20.940 know if you can like move to canada and become a canada you can move to china and become a citizen

07:45:25.500 but what if china passed a law and said hey even if you move here as a white person and we grant you

07:45:33.900 citizenship you can never uh have any role in government would that be systemic racism

07:45:38.980 i guess but that that's not existent anywhere in the world so it's just well hold on absolutely it

07:45:45.960 absolutely does absolutely you can't be you don't think asian countries are racist they're racist

07:45:53.100 against each other well i'm asian i'm right yeah i would know that yeah indians and the pakistanis the

07:45:59.880 yeah angladesh i don't know that's somewhere over there uh you know that's more religion

07:46:04.140 like indians and pakistanis that's well it's also nationality too they're different but a lot of it's

07:46:10.240 rooted in religion religions are systems as well sure yeah i know but i'm just saying like indian

07:46:15.200 and pakistanis it's not like yeah it's like countries are a thing it's like a lot of it is just because

07:46:19.320 of religion that's why there's so much conflict between them well i mean you could take yeah you could

07:46:24.020 take the chinese and the uh uigur the uigurs the uigurs and um and they're they're yeah and tibet i

07:46:32.380 mean tibet taiwan um yeah you go a little further um chinese occupied mongolia they took um way back

07:46:42.580 in the day i mean obviously this has been a few hundred years but they took slobs isn't there like

07:46:47.620 a caste system in like india too like yeah um well i mean they expelled the seek right in india the

07:46:54.940 seek no from afghan i don't know it's it's a little slightly north of there but they expelled the seeks

07:46:59.820 are dope are like though i like the seeks yeah they got their little daggers and shit any seeks do

07:47:05.440 we have any do we have any seeks in the chat w seeks um they're cool uh pretty badass but yeah i mean

07:47:12.020 i don't know i you you can't envision like a like you look at latin america you look at africa you

07:47:23.440 look at uh asia white people are the minority in all those places you don't think it's possible for

07:47:32.960 white people to experience like systemic racism in the non-white majority countries don't don't forget

07:47:40.840 the boar that's it right now oh in south africa i don't think it's very comparable to

07:47:46.520 well i think minorities actually probably have more rights in the united states than like if

07:47:52.240 you're a minority in any of these countries yeah it's true like for example you can be japanese oh

07:47:59.580 yeah i honestly but also i'm not very educated about like all this like yeah i just know my wheelhouse

07:48:05.480 either yeah but i'm just saying like i i always like i just in my opinion i just think you system

07:48:11.980 my systematic racism can't be applied towards white people i'm not super educated on it i don't know how

07:48:17.140 to work in other countries i just know in the western world just for the sake for the sake of convo i'd be

07:48:22.560 willing to grant that in white majority countries this could be the case but how could it ever be the

07:48:28.520 case in like in an asian dominated country or or like in africa they're black like i i don't really

07:48:35.860 understand that but for example i actually think if a japanese person moves to the united states and

07:48:41.420 become a citizen they become an american if i move to japan i don't know i don't even know if i can

07:48:48.760 become a citizen never because i'm never gonna be japanese immigrants right now i don't know if i move

07:48:54.680 to india and i've lived there for 20 years am i an indian i mean i don't think you'd honestly face

07:49:01.380 a lot of racism in india well i'm not even asking that i'm just saying if i move to india do but do i

07:49:05.360 become an indian no you have to go through the right steps no i'm saying i let's say i don't know the

07:49:11.500 citizen if you can even do that but let's say you can if i become a citizen of india am i indian

07:49:16.700 technically yes i mean by nationality but i like if i move to i mean i'm american but i'm indian i was

07:49:26.580 born here so sure but i there would be a bit of a distinction here i'm talking like if if i'm

07:49:33.740 but that's national if i moved to well if i moved even then though i don't know if i would

07:49:39.980 like i can i can have a neighbor who's japanese korean vietnamese who's indian who's pakistani who's

07:49:48.000 who's black who's whatever uh who's from uh costa rica who's from mexico whatever they can become

07:49:55.960 an american they can become an american i can't become if i move to mexico i'm not mexican and i like

07:50:05.920 i become a citizen or whatever i'm not mexican i mean the perfect example my wife is chinese she

07:50:11.100 is now an american citizen i can never become a chinese citizen ever yeah so it seems like almost

07:50:18.300 like america's kind of super dope we are dope we are i feel like america's not quite as bad as people

07:50:24.500 make it out to be you know so um i just don't understand like if i what what systemic power if i went

07:50:33.440 to like nigeria what systemic power i don't know i honestly like in school i study mostly like

07:50:39.140 systemic racism in the western world so i really cannot tell you what would be in asia africa and

07:50:44.680 i really sure but i mean just you don't even need to be a study it or be an expert like isn't it just

07:50:51.120 simply purely through reason through uh through reason through rationality through logic isn't it

07:50:58.440 logically possible that in like hold on we're almost done hang tight hang tight almost done

07:51:04.240 just hang tight i can't just wait just wait just wait just wait i'm so sorry i have a two-hour drive

07:51:09.140 hannah i'm wrapping so much i appreciate it 10 minutes 10 minutes hannah very rude hannah disappointed

07:51:15.300 okay so uh i guess my final thing on this and i'll let the rest of the chats come through

07:51:19.500 um i just if if the country's like majority uh japanese 99 japan's 99 japanese white people don't

07:51:31.680 have any systemic power in these countries japanese people have systemic power in this country

07:51:35.320 how could you not face potential systemic discrimination

07:51:40.600 as a white person in a non-white majority country

07:51:45.740 okay well i'll leave it i'll leave it there i'm just saying logically it's a good

07:51:52.100 possible conversation to have but it's late to have yeah we'll let the chats come through

07:51:55.940 sorry for the delay guys george donated 70 dollars care to asking the question if a brian

07:52:02.280 a man if he went to college is a feministic shaming tactic pathetic

07:52:07.200 i actually got a degree in psychology it was the worst money ever spent

07:52:14.260 nice uh okay yo uh pasty it was a shaming tactic but i'm not going to take it personally it is what

07:52:21.100 it is uh thank you aloo aloo donated 69 dollars ain't no billionaires ever looked at chair force way oh

07:52:29.340 shit she's a mid-feminist transformer that brings nothing but high body count and stds what the

07:52:35.020 fuck the fucking cap hey be nice to my homegirl feminist motherfuckers oh wait she's not my caucasian

07:52:40.220 everyone you want to see the receipts actually yes after the show you can show me the receipts

07:52:45.300 i'll show you i want the proof um i'll show you why do i have to lie pasty george donated 70

07:52:53.860 dollars yes ethnic minorities can be racist to caucasians i am first nations korean not only have i

07:53:02.060 experienced racism but i have seen caucasians receive it too enough of the bulsh tea

07:53:08.100 oh i have a scenario i have a scenario um when barack obama was president let's say he didn't

07:53:15.600 want to hire a white janitor at the white house would that be would that be racist

07:53:21.740 yes okay and what if hmm how do i how about this uh okay well there's nothing to argue then

07:53:32.140 it would be it would be racist i guess yeah it would be systemic okay i mean multiple times

07:53:36.580 to me i think you can be racist to white people but it's not systemized racism like every other race

07:53:42.520 has gone to through and like the western world can i ask you a question how about this final one on

07:53:47.420 the race thing and then i'll move it off uh a black owned corporation say it's a big corporation

07:53:53.280 um we'll just say not multinational but we'll say that it's uh national so black owns company

07:54:01.560 black owned corporation black ceo black majority black maybe there's like a whatever

07:54:06.580 dole yeah we'll just say like in this hypothetical scenario there are like really successful um black

07:54:13.660 owned companies really successful black majority like uh the the executives black majority right

07:54:19.300 uh if they were like you know what we don't want to hire white people would that be systemic yes

07:54:26.780 every like no but would it be systemic no but it's a national company massive influence massive

07:54:34.380 system would that be racist what's the like what is like the definition of systematic well you use the

07:54:41.360 term so yeah well like i would think of a to me like honestly i haven't i learned about this maybe a

07:54:46.440 year or two ago but to me it's like like a wide scale movement and i feel like one company doing

07:54:54.440 that is in a wide scale obviously it's racist but it's not systematic to that type of scale

07:54:59.120 mythology well i would say there would have to be some some like broad broad system that enabled it

07:55:06.620 so in this case if there was like a broad hiring policy like for example if a major corporation

07:55:12.100 said we're not hiring black people would this be regular racism or would it be systemic racism

07:55:17.600 wait let's just have her i'm not like saying there's like different types i'm just saying like

07:55:24.400 and the generality of it like the racism against people of color have always been it's always been

07:55:29.400 systemized and white people in the western world have never been through a systemized racism like i'm

07:55:35.900 not i wouldn't say be like in different scenarios like oh that's systemized racism that's racism

07:55:40.280 i would just it is racism but i'm just saying are spanish people white

07:55:45.040 okay so i mean there were massive amounts of uh like north african muslim conquests into uh

07:55:54.900 i don't know what the historical term for the region was into i guess modern day spain i don't know if

07:56:00.360 it was like anatolia or some shit back in the day into portugal uh these were um and there were

07:56:06.420 massive like hundreds centuries centuries centuries and uh yeah white people were absolutely uh

07:56:13.940 probably systematically oppressed by the uh muslim invaders into spain and portugal and then you see

07:56:20.400 this in like some of the uh more eastern around like even wasn't that a time where slaves were just

07:56:28.220 like normalized in general like every nation did that yeah go ahead yeah so let's say that we had a

07:56:34.380 system where she wanted a job and she wanted a job and she wanted a job and i was had a set of rules

07:56:42.340 in front of me that said i could only hire her with over any of these other ladies would that be

07:56:49.080 systemic racism based on a race by the way just look i'm just saying the racism that people of color face

07:56:55.580 is systemized racism i'm not going to be like in every different scenario it's just it's well because

07:57:00.720 i've said this like so many times you just kind of keep asking in different ways right but but we

07:57:05.200 have that system currently it's called dei well didn't didn't trump take it away that's most of

07:57:12.900 it's gone yeah not all of it so we don't have it it's still kind of remaining in the corporation

07:57:16.560 it is it is um just for to be fair to the panelists i do have to move it off of the race

07:57:21.720 sure sure uh we're gonna let the chats come through then i'll get you guys out walker donated

07:57:26.060 69 get these girls more pizza just a million if they want if you want pizza we got you

07:57:31.360 you dumb bimbo of course you would never call them out bc they are black and black people can't be

07:57:37.420 racist in your racist world view grow up oh shit uh thank you man appreciate it all right we have

07:57:44.740 a pasty george here oh shit nay pasty's gonna make the next cameo pasty george donated 70

07:57:51.520 dollars grid one is that really you he should have sent you look great man what a surprise i have

07:57:57.720 glasses and wear a black cat oh shit you guys are homies nice yo pasty uh by the way something's

07:58:04.360 coming up but uh thank you pasty george we have one from british east india company

07:58:10.920 british east india company donated 69 dollars two more following india's independence in 1947

07:58:20.820 the treatment of anglo-indians shifted from a privileged position under british rule to a

07:58:26.120 marginalized one as the community faced suspicion and resentment

07:58:30.120 yeah true uh thank you uh thank you for that appreciate it british east india company oh my god

07:58:39.940 yo wait pasty pasty george donated one thousand dollars this is for you appearance by grid one

07:58:48.740 motorsports thank you brave and a decent man he's a pioneer uh pasty um i don't know if you want to

07:58:55.360 send in one final chat because it's the end of the show i can't do a champagne pop because i need to

07:58:59.620 get everybody out pasty can are you fine if i just save it for i'll do the champagne pop next

07:59:04.480 sunday if you're fine with it yeah i don't drink anyway so okay yeah uh thank you pasty though guys

07:59:09.300 w's in the chat for pasty what a fucking legend barrier wisdom donated 69 dollars so racism changes

07:59:16.220 by zip code now hates hate you don't need a system to be ignorant chair three please don't major in

07:59:23.860 sociology don't buy that school taught propaganda open your eyes to reality

07:59:29.060 even if we go ahead and grant that there is systemic racism in white majority countries wouldn't

07:59:36.600 the logical extension have to be that there's systemic uh systemic racism towards non-white

07:59:43.060 people in not white non-white countries like i just think that's logically consistent

07:59:47.720 in fact you could even argue that minorities minorities in white countries they're treated

07:59:56.760 better than white people are treated in non-white countries

08:00:00.760 i mean right now i mean i don't know i really don't know how it is in the rest of the world i

08:00:07.600 haven't done any research or anything like for example um look there's crimes that happen in all

08:00:13.220 sorts of countries but i believe in certain i don't want to use like some kind of like out out

08:00:21.040 there woozy-wazy thing but like for example if you're a white person in certain african countries

08:00:25.300 like they'll just kill you a white person in south africa no not in south in there's certain african

08:00:33.700 uh african countries that uh molly is one they'll even do this to like for example if you're

08:00:40.420 i feel like hate crimes are everywhere i know black person there's like some witchcraft shit voodoo

08:00:45.520 shit they'll kill black albinos i don't know because they're like oh the i know that sounds

08:00:52.440 crazy but it's actually true and it's such a random i shouldn't even have gone there i mean it's an

08:00:56.760 interesting fact yeah it's that's i probably should it's just like an exception kind of argument

08:01:00.940 probably shouldn't have made it kieran marken question for chair three who did the white slave

08:01:04.720 traders buy slaves from in africa i never said there's never been like a person of color

08:01:10.380 on person of color like i've never said there wasn't that i just said i never like ever said

08:01:16.660 deny that ever okay um all right well uh okay we're gonna get this all wrapped up here let me

08:01:25.400 hey thanks for having me on i appreciate the cameo man it was good to finally meet you man it's been

08:01:30.120 this is like two three years in the works sure um are women just as physically strong as men

08:01:36.020 anybody how about five final one i swear i promise i promise are women the primary victims

08:01:43.400 of war okay are women the primary i swear i'm sorry am i being a goblin yes you like actually

08:01:50.860 really freaking are oh my gosh shay i thought we were cool i have a flight to catch i know i'm

08:01:56.360 wrapping so i have an 8 a.m all right tell you what if you guys are down we'll run it back we'll

08:02:00.500 run it back okay anyways i'll wrap the show all right gg well played gg well played are we forgetting

08:02:07.160 anything nick are we good i think i think we're good i yeah we're good all right gg well played guys

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