She Came To DEBATE?! Andrew Wilson! Traditional Escort?! Traditional Stripper?! | Dating Talk #143
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7 hours and 46 minutes
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This episode is dedicated to Akira Toriyama, who tragically lost his battle with cystic acne at the hands of a plastic surgeon. This episode also features a special guest, a streamer, a content creator, and a friend of the show.
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dbz we got we got the dbz vhs tape sorry there's a bit of glare on the table but those are the french
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vhs tapes get this shit right it was further along in france than in the united states so uh
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so i got i got a little extra early news back in the 90s or whatever when it came to dbz so um
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in any case dbz was a huge part of my childhood and i suspect for hundreds of millions of other men
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and boys so rest in peace akira toriyama disclaimer the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily
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reflect the views of the whatever podcast without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce
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themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead oh my name is adeline star
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i am 26 i'm originally from texas but now local to la and i do professional things um and also a media
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personality and streamer so just a variety what a professional things what does what does that mean
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um corn okay i think i have a pretty good idea what you mean there yeah all right how long have
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you been doing that for uh i've been in the industry for uh actually this month makes about three years so
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yeah you said you're originally from texas i i don't know if i just i'm detecting a bit of an accent
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also i'm local to born and raised texan okay just moved here yeah okay got it what about you
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my name is lexi i'm 23 years old and i'm a legal courtesan now for people who don't know what that
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is what is a legal courtesan a legal escort in the state of nevada at the moonlight bunny ranch
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all right and you offer your services which are what why why are you looking at me that adult
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entertainer okay i was just trying to figure out the wording okay got it what about you uh my name
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is meg i'm from australia and i'm 34 and i'm studying personal training and i'm sort of running
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an instagram about dating coaching but it's not really serious at the moment but okay and maybe
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we will pull up some of your instagrams in a bit uh what part of australia are you from brisbane brisbane
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yeah brisbane what's the rugby team out of brisbane i don't know you don't know okay i used to remember
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in years past what about you um hi my name is angeline i was born and raised in oxnard california
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um i'm 21 years old and i'm an exotic dancer okay welcome what about you hi i'm rose um i'm 21 as of
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this month and i'm from new jersey uh what do you do oh i'm a waitress wait school at all or yeah i go
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to school i go to college um in new jersey but waitressing on the side what's your major english
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and criminology english criminology i don't know what i want to go to ruckers no tcnj okay
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got it okay cool what about you hi i'm selena i'm 37 um i'm a stay-at-home mom uh and i'm a student
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um my daughter she's four months old and um i'm from san antonio texas i was like oh there's one
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where i was forgetting what it was san antonio texas um allison i'm 30 years old i'm originally
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from rhode island um but i currently reside in scottsdale arizona and i'm a school counselor
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i'm morgan i'm a turning point usa contributor and political and cultural kind of everything
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commentator i'm 24 years old and i've been doing this for about three four years um and i live in
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phoenix right now but i'm from california and texas all right welcome everybody so we're gonna go
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around the oh well hold on now we have one more person name is uh andrew wilson host of the one and
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only crucible uh one of the if not the fastest growing debate channel uh on the internet thank
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you guys for having me it's a pleasure to meet you all all right welcome everybody so we're gonna go
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around the table once more what is your current relationship status so are you single talking
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stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult whatever
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it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've
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ever been in go ahead i'm currently in a relationship how long have you been in that it's recent
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three months three months three months what's your longest relationship um two years two years
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are you sure you're from texas yeah i'm detecting like a not i'm detecting a not american accent i'm i'm
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american no i see what you mean but then like she'll talk again i'm like oh she does have an
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american accent are you like in like intermittently putting on like no i'm i'm half hispanic half
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white i've grown up all over i've traveled all over so some enunciations or pronunciations or whatever
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you want to call it might be might differ so yeah your accent also are just hearing me for the first
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time too so sure your accent has been colored by your many travels we'll just say that okay uh so you
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said yeah you're recently in a relationship is it monogamous it is okay what about you i'm single
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and i've been single for about two years now all right longest relationship um like three years
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three years so you've been on the whatever podcast is it two or three times i believe this is gonna be
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my third time is this your third time i think any any dating prospects at all since your last
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appearance um no nothing no zilch no you were on dating apps right previously no no dating apps are
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you currently on any dating apps farmers only not even farmers only christian mingle christian mingle
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tinder hinge bumble nothing nothing nothing you promise yes okay uh so you're are you i was about
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to ask if you're celibate but that's a pretty stupid question to ask um are you civilianly celibate
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yes actually is that a word civilian civilian yep in a civil civilian sense to me but it makes sense
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to you makes sense to me what about you i'm engaged all right engaged uh how long have you two been
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together um about three years but i've known him for about seven years three years uh longest
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relationship seven years seven years yeah but that's not your current no that was my previous part
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were you previously married no no okay how long have you been engaged um um a year maybe yeah okay
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and who proposed to who um my partner my fiance okay he prefers to me okay you know things are changing
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it's 2024 no he definitely prefers women are proposing to men no men are proposing to men
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so it's all good uh okay all right what about you um i'm single as of right now how long have you been
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single for um for like three months about three months three months about three months yeah longest
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relationship a year one year yeah my ex he was actually on this podcast he was the first guy you
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interviewed oh brandon brandon oh okay does he know that you're coming on today yeah i was like oh you
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told him i i was like where's the address like i was like i don't know please don't
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no i wasn't okay okay okay okay okay you were answering me so yeah okay just
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no i wasn't gonna say the address uh hold on one sec are we getting um
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uh chat can you tell us what your uh what the issues are are you guys lagging is the frame rate bad is the
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show quality bad uh maybe try doing a refresh but one in the chat if the quality is an issue two in
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the chat if uh it's yeah okay we're gonna keep going um uh was that the guy who so you said you've
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been single for three months so the previous guy you were dating is that brandon yes wait just yes
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kindly reminder when you speak we need you speaking into the microphone okay i apologize it's okay
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go ahead oh um yeah i'm in a relationship how long it actually was five months as of like two days
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ago five months grid one motorsports donated 100 i am 53 retired from tn married two kids and a
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raging headache as an unofficial member of the panel i represent the patriarchy and all it offers
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reforming feminists that is grid one motorsports he's also part of the panel today and he's also
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been part of the panel in many other of our shows so uh what uh thank you for joining us once again
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to the whatever podcast grid one appreciate you welcome welcome uh so five months longest relationship
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um i don't like a year about a year maybe one year okay how much uh and when was your one year
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relationship that was in high school that was a long time ago sure yeah okay what about you uh i've
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been with my husband five years that's my longest relationship can i have you just tilt your mic down
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just a little bit okay okay five years you're married right yes five years and that's your longest
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relationship you said yes we uh okay we're together less than a year before we got married okay yeah
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five years so dating like six years total five years total there's four years total married oh we
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just yeah we just celebrated our four-year anniversary okay but so together five years i see okay and you
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have one kid two kids i have two two kids i have an 18 year old who lives in la that's why i was out
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here okay and um a four-month-old gotcha and uh different different fathers or correct i see okay
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got it okay uh what about you um i'm currently single i've been single for about five years now
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and my longest relationship was about seven and a half years almost eight
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sorry what was the last part seven and five years and what um my it it was about a seven year
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relationship seven and a half years okay and so you've been single for five years yes so from 25 to 30
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yes i've only been casually dating i would say in that period of time this most recent period uh in
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this most recent five-year period where you've been single what's the longest period of time that you've
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seen anybody i've noticed kind of a trend like three to six months has kind of been like the mark
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yeah did you consider any of those your boyfriend or did it never get um yeah one point i did um but it
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lasted about three months and there were certain reasons why we broke up but why did he dump you
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i actually ended things oh excuse me yeah whoa brian because this is assuming he dumped her
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whoa whoa whoa very uh some values just didn't align okay so your 7.5 year relationship was that from
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like 18 to 25 then you got it yep throughout college and then i went to grad school and moved
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were you guys engaged no kid any kids with anybody no why did that 7.5 year relationship end uh one
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day he just came to me and he was like hey it was a nice ride but you know i don't want to do this
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anymore and he gave me a pat on the back and pat on the back that was that was it it was a tough
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can you demonstrate on morgan the pat on the back it was it was a nice ride oh wow brutal
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that's brutal yeah seven and a half years yes yeah okay wow okay good times but so you've been
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single for five years correct um are you on dating apps i am i'm currently on bumble just bumble
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what about hinge anything else um i got blocked from some of the apps randomly and i don't know why
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i did too i got blocked as well yeah and they didn't disclose were you guys soliciting money
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no like here's my cash app no i actually got blocked for bullying oh yeah why don't you tell
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us that story real quick i don't know there was just some some uh some men on there that were like
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a little too entitled so you know tell us about the bullying what the what were you doing i can't
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even be mad at you i feel you right yeah they're just some guys like they thought they thought they
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were like great and i don't know had to had to what did you come on give us the details here what
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is roasted them how how how did you roast them on it could be anything it could be anything i don't
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know one guy one guy like bleached the the tips of his hair like blonde and i just kept calling him
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frosted tips and he didn't like it so but what did he so okay you said they were kind of being
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maybe entitled or whatever so what how were they being how were they acting for you to start roasting
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them entitled and demeaning okay give us an example give us a well very objectifying they would be
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hitting on me in like rude ways in the sense that like um trying to think of an example like send you a
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kind of kind of yeah like emojis yeah emojis emojis and vulgar talk like it started with the emojis and
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then it led to like give us an example let's hear it um okay did any of them say something along the
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lines of excuse me madam i wish to have carnal knowledge of your nether regions yes yes that that sounds
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kind of that's pretty polite i mean no not in that way though but not in that way they did it in the
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very the inappropriate way i see i see okay all right so then you talk shit back and then you got
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banned exactly and i i don't think your life's over i don't think it was justified if you're if you ever
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get out of this wait you're did you say you're no you're in a relationship right i am in a relationship
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it's done once you're out of that relationship he's a lot better than these men online these men
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online think they think they're hiding behind a screen they're they're hiding behind they're hiding
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behind a screen all right okay and you know it's like no don't don't hide don't hide where did you
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get you got banned from tinder and hinge and hinge i did yeah so now same reason you're in the both
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bumbles what's left you've got one place it's a recluse see i don't it's a sanctuary bumbles your
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sanctuary i am happy but you're in a relationship yes um morgan your relationship status i am single
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but dating intentionally uh no dating apps right now and the longest relationship i've been in
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is like eight months i want to say six eight months what was the other one uh how long have you been
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single for how long have i been single for a little over a year one year so you've been on the podcast i
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i think two times right uh no no prospects since no prospects from from the whatever crew
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unfortunately or maybe fortunately but uh i i have been dating intentionally they're actually what does
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that mean though to be dating intentionally dating intentionally no sleeping in the same bed no
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napping i'm waiting for marriage waiting for marriage yep uh going on dates intentionally with
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the intention to get married at the end that doesn't mean that i'm dating the person that i'm going on
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the dates with is who i'm going to marry but it's mutually knowing that we are dating in a way that is
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for marriage and honoring that and i if i recall the dating intentionally thing that's been your standard
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since you were last on the show yes from the first time even i think and i don't recall exactly when
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your first appearance was i think it's been like eight nine nine months i think nine months maybe your first
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appearance um have you kept because you listed well okay not no sleepovers no napping none of that
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have you been have you been have i've been what's the word there's a word there's a good word for it
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have i stuck with it have you been fuck what's the word hold on let me just pause the podcast for 20 seconds
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to try to buy a vowel wait have you been fourth no not it's not forthright uh it's it's it's like
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something right obey the fuck consistent have you been it's like i'm i'm evoking like something like
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an arrow just going straight i don't think you're evoking anything right now called out wait what's it
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yes i have stuck to my morals god damn that's gonna bother me not fuck engaged and then actually
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hadn't kissed anyone in over a year so they since my one i know and nothing else nothing else because
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you could literally excuse me sorry you said how long have you been single intentionally dating this
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person no so i so right now i'm i've been intentionally dating but i'm single you're single
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wait sorry so you're single but you're intentionally dating somebody like i've gone on a not
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someone like like i've gone on three dates in the last in intention to find marriage yes
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with the goal to be married at some point in the future
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okay so like if i'm going like somebody like a man asked me on a date like i will go on a date i
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want to get to know them i want to them like this is a future partner and different guys like you're
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like well no i i've gone on three dates in the last two months with two dates two months yeah okay
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that's it but yes i've stepped by my morals and have not done anything
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andrew is a it's like shopping around for a husband andrew's it's almost like shopping around
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for a husband well i'm not shopping for but like seeking out but i am seeking marriage like i don't
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want to casually date i'm not hooking up i'm not going on dating apps to you know just go on a
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bunch of dates or waste somebody's time and i know my values and i know what i'm looking for in a
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future partner like you know i'm not going to marry someone currently if they're not also waiting for
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marriage right now or re-waiting for marriage is totally fine but you know i need to make sure
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that those values and those morals so just have you always done this or is this like have you done
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this in the past so i have been doing this for about four years now four or five five years maybe
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longer it's been a while uh an example so with my husband when we met um 33 and 35 he was 35 a year
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and a half older me whatever at the time anyway so when we met normally i have to have that conversation
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with somebody like hey i want i have a kid but i want more kids but i'm not gonna have any if unless
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i'm married and and all of that they normally i have to have that conversation um i didn't with
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him he was like hey you know i've already traveled i've already done everything i'm gonna do like i
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want a family if you don't want that um let's part ways right now and i was like oh my god you're
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staying you know because that was my dating with intention right um both of us were had the same
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same ideas of what we wanted in our life the same goals and um i i believe it was five months later
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we got married or no excuse me nine months four months later he he proposed to me nine months later
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we had gotten married i'm just asking because like a lot of days nowadays people don't you know
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what i mean they're just like hookup culture and stuff right so thank you for explaining that to me
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andrew wilson what about what about you yeah i'm uh married have been for uh over a decade
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all right uh so really quick on everybody's relationship status so single single me no i was
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pointing at her uh and then we have single here and then also single uh what does that really mean
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to be single there's no guys in the picture whatsoever come on you're brian what's your
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dating status can we ask you i've got to keep it it's top secret i'm a don't say virgin you're about
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to no i was gonna say i'm a monk which is essentially kind of the same i'm on monk mode right now a
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secondary virgin no now that i don't believe if you can be a born again virgin that's laughable but
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um uh there's no guys in the picture come on come on there's like you got some sugar daddies though
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right okay i have a question you said that you work at as a legal at a legal brothel yes okay in the
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moonlight bunny ranch okay how many men have you seen in the last month via doing your job um i would
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have to grab my notebook for that do you have it with you no on like average if like you were just
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it depends do you see that as just a job or you know when you're doing that or any of those men
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any intention at all or date them yeah no i keep my work stuff separate from my personal stuff
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i will not be dating my clients are they just one nights or do they are they reoccurring
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um we have i have regulars um yeah wait can you scoot your mic this way that way yeah um
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why are you why are you looking at me that way what the fuck no i'm just no i'm just okay question
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how many clients do you have do i have that's a really like how many clients do i see a day
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sure yeah let's do that's that's easier how many clients i'll just see one client a day
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and sometimes you'll see two two and sometimes you'll see this is like a dr seuss book sometimes
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you'll see three well that's green eggs and ham about the weather like i really don't know how
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many clients what's the most clients you've seen in the day
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has anybody ever told you that like when you look at somebody it's kind of intense like i feel
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like you want to beat me up no oh my gosh you've got that like look in your eyes like i'm no
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fuck you up okay just says that i when did you start like are you intimidated by me no i'm just
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are you upset no by the question no okay not at all okay sorry maybe you just have like
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that look anyways moving on uh so okay you see did you say how many the most you've seen four
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four that's it five never crossed your mind one guy all it takes is just one party sometimes you
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know what i mean one all it takes is one what one one client yeah what do you call one client
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you call them marks tricks ever call them that privately i why do you know but have you no i i just
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believe in discretion and i encourage discretion so that's that's all i'm going to say have you
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discreetly engaged in escorting or prostitution i have not okay i'm just you know just asking but i
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do believe in discretion all across the board especially when it comes to the adult entertainment
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industry you definitely we're we're here to provide you know a service and um a courtesy
00:29:06.660
sometimes a fantasy and so it's beautiful it's that's just part of it and yeah that's great i know
00:29:13.400
but what but so are you object are you saying that because you're objecting to me asking
00:29:16.680
about the no i'm letting her have her own space and if she wants to share that i'm not gonna stick up
00:29:22.420
for her no but the question was do you refer to them as marks or johns which is just sort of like
00:29:27.640
a descriptive term oh i don't know that's so i personally don't use those terms with my clients
00:29:35.040
because i think that those terms are just a little disrespectful i like to be respectful in the
00:29:41.780
environment that i'm in okay the environment that i'm in is legal like i said yeah and um we don't go
00:29:47.680
around talking about our clients like their clients that's definitely not what we like
00:29:51.760
i've heard bunny ranch to not not the moonlight bunny ranch do you want to tell us one more time
00:29:58.060
where you well i'm just saying like they're at the establishment it's important for us to not treat
00:30:02.760
our customers like that you know of course of course i have heard some and i'm gonna say it multiple
00:30:07.480
times just so you're aware of where i work you know appreciate it uh yeah where where is that again
00:30:14.900
yeah one more time the legal moonlight bunny ranch the the legal he didn't hear me that and i've said
00:30:22.380
it a couple times yeah yeah that's why i keep he's hard of hearing andrew's hard of hearing sometimes
00:30:26.240
you need to repeat things just so uh uh okay so you're single also uh but uh you know is there any
00:30:36.120
guys in the picture any prospects any um dating so i'm a stripper of course my relationships are not
00:30:42.920
going to last well you said you were dating that guy before how long were you and brandon dating
00:30:47.660
for a year but he met me there he met you at the club he yeah um okay and any you said that
00:30:59.700
relationship ended three months ago okay yeah any you know rebound anything yeah of course but more than
00:31:08.640
a couple rebounds um like talking to guys yes but it didn't last because i'm a stripper so it didn't
00:31:16.500
last because you're a stripper yeah they don't i guess like guys think that they can get in my pants
00:31:23.760
because i'm a stripper but um that's not the case so um well i i kind of it would occur to me that
00:31:34.980
somebody who's sexually open enough to be fully nude in front of men or groups of men i mean
00:31:44.360
most guys are probably going to assume that you're not exactly waiting until marriage to have
00:31:50.680
sex that's fine but i'm not gonna give my pussy up just do you want to be in a relationship
00:31:56.620
um not as of right now no eventually do you want to be like married and in a long-term relationship
00:32:04.940
how long have you been dancing for about a year or more than a year what how did you get into it
00:32:18.020
um well i was kind of tired of the nine to five jobs so um i wanted the fast money and it's kind
00:32:28.560
of hard to get out of the fast money after a while so yeah i i'm just trying to get in my bag and i
00:32:34.920
want to hustle and make money are you hustling in other ways besides dancing no you said it's hard to
00:32:41.380
get out of fast money once you start is do you have a second plan of you know eventually wanting to
00:32:46.340
leave the stripping industry and going into something else yeah um i want um i want a man
00:32:54.060
to save me out of the industry but then you said that it's really difficult for men to date you
00:32:59.660
because you are a stripper oh my god that's the word steadfast is the word sorry to interrupt i
00:33:06.720
wanted to thank you hold on thank you who is it in the fucking chat you said it earlier you said i
00:33:13.960
didn't hear steadfast god that's such a good word great so you have been steadfast okay i didn't go
00:33:22.220
ahead continue you you seem to have raised an eyebrow at something she said no i was just saying so you
00:33:27.200
said that you eventually want to be in a relationship you want a man to save you but you are currently a
00:33:32.660
stripper and you expressed that now a man it's difficult to date because you are in the stripping
00:33:38.600
industry i kind of see that as a oxymoron almost of like if you do want so i'm only 21 i'm still
00:33:44.620
really young right um if a man later on in life wants to um look past my you know stripping career
00:33:53.200
if he asks me to stop stripping i will stop stripping you know if he wants to still respect me
00:34:02.160
for my past and um he wants to provide for me and he wants to settle down and um ask to marry
00:34:08.760
me then i will stop stripping for him that's a great answer and someone will do that for you
00:34:13.620
yeah and in that case a man is not saving you you you know like he's he's he might be picking you up but
00:34:22.240
he's not saving you you know what i mean like never say that a man's saving you never never say that
00:34:27.620
man's saving you well i don't know well you want a guy to be i would like a provider yes that's what
00:34:32.600
i was gonna ask like i would like a provider so i want to be a stay-at-home mom a man would be saving
00:34:37.780
her by providing her money so she doesn't have to continue engaging in in the yeah in that kind of
00:34:45.760
work okay what made you want to get into stripping i know you said fast money you were working nine to
00:34:50.580
five before but what was appealing to that industry was there something that was like this is what i want
00:34:54.400
to do and why well i kind of got tired of working at mcdonald's and and um uh i wasn't i didn't grow
00:35:03.900
up in a um in a wealthy household so i grew up poor and i wanted to make money somehow you know so yeah
00:35:13.760
i thought the best way to make money was off my appearance and off my looks for some reason and
00:35:21.500
that's how i got into it you said you were born and raised in oxnard 805 yeah okay uh
00:35:28.440
can you show us the neck tattoo that you have just pull your hair back
00:35:32.940
what does it say um it says ismael what's that that's one of my grandparents okay yeah grid one
00:35:42.280
motorsports donated 100 she believes in discretion and that is for certain a discreet blows said no one
00:35:51.080
ever the bunny girl and stripper might be using more copium than the hippie from the other night
00:35:56.460
this will be fun thank you grid one motorsports appreciate it dude thank you man appreciate it do
00:36:02.920
you have more back and forth with uh so you've not been you you it sounded like you had a rebound
00:36:10.860
what do you mean uh you had because you said you broke up three months ago but there was another
00:36:18.420
guy kind of in the picture yeah so i was never i was always loyal to um to brandon but
00:36:25.740
to me cheating was flirting with other guys even through text so that's what i did you did oh so he
00:36:34.260
broke up with you because it was on both terms both terms it was a really toxic relationship
00:36:41.420
oh yeah okay um wait and did brandon tell you to come on the show no he didn't he actually encouraged
00:36:50.180
me not to come on oh he encouraged you okay brandon and he told me first off let me just send the
00:36:55.540
message to brandon i didn't i was not privy to brandon's a friend of mine i was not privy to
00:37:01.580
the really relationship here so uh no but i'm not gonna um come on here and bash him like okay
00:37:08.880
um yeah i'd request you not say anything i wasn't negative it wasn't i was just saying our
00:37:15.580
relationship status as of right now we're still cool we still talk you know i still does he still
00:37:20.020
uh work yeah he still works he still works and um okay it was just a toxic relationship but i feel
00:37:26.860
like we're better off as who was more toxic like was it you be honest um latina of course i'm gonna
00:37:34.500
be oh no because i mean i've i've had quite a bit of back and forth with brandon and uh he's got his
00:37:40.560
head on pretty straight so yeah he's he's yeah strikes me as a super level-headed yeah and um i think
00:37:47.580
brandon because before him i didn't really know much but a real man passes knowledge and because of him
00:37:53.520
i think um i know a lot more like he taught me a lot of things okay and so yeah so i can say that
00:38:03.100
about him but just the relationship itself was very toxic what's some toxic things that you did
00:38:08.580
um i memorized his following list his following list you like everybody he follows on instagram
00:38:16.340
yes you memorized it yeah like in your head i mean i would like you could like name the the people
00:38:24.740
like no not like that this is tiffany becky who's that gertrude no not like you got curious when you
00:38:33.020
saw him following gertrude you're like who's gertrude brandon um sometimes yeah um did he like
00:38:40.000
who's ursula okay so yeah um did he like other girls burners on instagram do you know like he would
00:38:46.100
comment under the photos and i'm just like you don't even follow me on instagram you don't even like
00:38:51.720
my pictures wait what's some toxic shake that you did though
00:38:54.400
i'd rather not disclose that slashing did you slash tires
00:39:00.460
burn clothes no no burn clothes no no oh i've done that before that's really fun i
00:39:09.500
i actually um i went to jail for like a few hours
00:39:17.840
for what i don't want to say oh okay yeah a couple hours
00:39:26.820
okay terrorism no okay but i was built conspiracy to defraud the government treason
00:39:37.920
was it treason i have a feeling it's treason no treason light treason no heavy treason no medium
00:39:46.140
treason okay all right i'm i'm off uh okay but any dating apps are you on dating apps no would you
00:39:56.640
date a customer at your club no okay moving on well i'm gonna come back actually you said you burned
00:40:04.860
clothes what huh yeah has any okay have you done other shit have you ever broken something i've yeah
00:40:25.260
no oh let me let me do the singular have you slashed a tire i'm not gonna let you off on the technicality
00:40:33.960
um have you slashed a tire a singular tire yes for legal reasons no wow that was did you see
00:40:46.560
she she tried to use the loophole of plural she tried to use plural to get out of it but i
00:40:52.000
fucking saw that what did they do singular um what kind of tire was it
00:40:58.160
oh i see what you're trying to do you're trying to catch me um well i mean you did that
00:41:06.280
happened to my best friend they did it to my best friend it wasn't done to me i am way more aggressive
00:41:11.820
when it's to someone i love or so i care have you stabbed somebody shanked no okay i'm not a criminal
00:41:18.360
wait so it was your best friend's boyfriend you kind of just pleaded the okay in your best friend's
00:41:24.400
boyfriend he was like really like that good better like okay so i mean more so in like a dating
00:41:33.740
context you know he was burned clothes well burning clothes i feel like that's not bad
00:41:40.160
that's pretty that's vandalism property damage you know probably a misdemeanor like why did you burn
00:41:46.680
his clothes because he was being rude to you yes what did he was the guy you were dating no it was
00:41:54.900
another it was a different why are you like doing this revenge shit on dudes you're not even dating
00:42:01.420
i'm confused were you dating him no he was also another one of my friends so we burned together
00:42:07.060
we burned his shirt together i was kind of like helping you said you burned it okay you said you
00:42:12.020
burned it because he was rude what how was he rude well he was just leading her on in a sense
00:42:17.260
what do you mean leading her on like there was this thing where they were going today or expected
00:42:25.360
today and then it just like didn't happen so that war wow that's fucking so yeah it does i think it
00:42:33.900
does i don't know so if a guy were to take you on a couple dates and be like hey like maybe leading
00:42:39.380
you on and then you're like you know i just he's not seeing it and then you just burn his clothes
00:42:44.120
if i have access to them okay i i just i think that's a little unreasonable just a little well i
00:42:52.600
mean um the way that i would frame it is um psychotic behavior psychopathic lunatic that's that's how
00:43:00.520
that's how i would frame it if you were you know to burn people's clothing because you were upset at
00:43:06.740
them but that i mean that's just me i mean college is college i was i was about to say i mean like
00:43:13.220
that's time consuming doing that to someone else and like so it's like did you video record it and
00:43:19.120
then send it to him and was like look what i did or was it on his like at his house like where did
00:43:25.380
this take place how many clothes wear there it was in my apartment and the fire alarm went off okay
00:43:31.240
yeah and so then it must have been raging girl you were like i'm gonna do this in my apartment complex
00:43:38.060
or just totally sober let's burn his shirt he was leading you on yeah okay there was so what did you
00:43:45.780
burn it in oh um a lighter no you took the lighter and then where did you put the clothes
00:43:51.400
and so it just started like going up in flames so you just lit it lit it on the floor you lit it on
00:43:56.540
the floor just like like it was like on your kitchen floor yeah it was a it was like a cutoff like you
00:44:01.420
didn't you weren't like over the bathtub lighting it on fire like you were just straight up in your
00:44:06.000
kitchen just like lighting it on fire i was just she was like my friend was just kind of chilling there
00:44:10.820
and this was this was like my idea so did you film it um i tried to but i got like a little bit
00:44:18.800
about it on film and then um it just started like going up in flames and i really like ran
00:44:22.760
can you send us the video faramere's note dead donated one hundred dollars brian good show cool
00:44:32.360
to see andrew morgan lexi will we ever see in rattlesnake plus latina plus vegas resident panel
00:44:38.440
would be peak bands who's the latina which latina
00:44:43.700
uh i'm a latina there's several here i don't know which latina you're referring to thank you for
00:44:51.540
the tts um jake's dope we'll always love to have him back on i'm not sure who the vegas resident is
00:44:58.760
who's from vegas oh maybe you no he said lexi yeah he said he said my name i'm assuming
00:45:04.500
yeah jake's great yeah he's fantastic he's great thank you uh appreciate that
00:45:10.380
were you guys having more back and forth about the clothes burning or i have questions
00:45:15.220
i just feel like what extent like how what would you do like your boyfriend now you're in you're
00:45:19.360
an eight-month relationship if y'all broke up like would you like it was toxic or something happened
00:45:24.320
like what extent would you do because i feel like this is a reoccurring thing i don't know um i feel
00:45:31.480
like he's very genuine i wouldn't do anything to harm him like i wouldn't like you wouldn't harm some
00:45:38.860
like him yeah i wouldn't but burning clothes i feel like burning clothes is just like it's like
00:45:44.460
it's a piece of clothing you know you can like always buy it again so what if a guy broke up with
00:45:48.920
like what if you broke up with a guy and they had a piece of your clothes and burned it like i feel like
00:45:53.880
you would be like they're toxic that's horrible behavior they're crazy i just feel like yo that's
00:45:59.600
kind of crazy but i would like i would just laugh at him what yeah i mean if it well i know if a guy
00:46:08.500
like burned my clothes i would think that's pretty pretty like psycho i don't know i think it's kind
00:46:15.760
of funny i would show my friend and be like yo look who just burned my shirt that's what that's a new
00:46:21.460
one wait wait what you would you would think it was funny yeah i would think it's funny i mean i don't
00:46:28.500
know did you bring a spare set of clothes that brian can take outside and set on fire or
00:46:32.820
you're not full screen what the heck girl i'm sorry that's a little wild i mean that's
00:46:39.140
if someone like okay super weird just gonna let you know that's really weird burning an article of
00:46:45.020
clothing yes yeah it's also i mean i i've returned clothes from like previous exes of like we've broken
00:46:51.680
up good or bad terms like i'm not going to damage your property like i will mail it back to you
00:46:57.700
over a certain amount of damage isn't that like a higher like charge wait you're you're gonna say
00:47:04.820
i'm sorry no go ahead go ahead actually me um brandon would always like he would he wouldn't
00:47:11.160
burn my clothes he wouldn't throw in the trash he would actually like bag it up and uh return it
00:47:15.820
yeah he would return it like that's a respectful thing to do it might have been in like a trash bag
00:47:21.120
but like he returned it you know but oh because you had like clothes at his place and when you guys
00:47:27.420
broke up he gave you back your stuff yeah the amount of times that he packed up my clothes from
00:47:32.040
my closet in his apartment was like so he was like breaking up with you oh it was no it was on again
00:47:39.200
off again type shit yeah that okay he didn't burn it he would no you give you the but like he would be
00:47:45.500
the one breaking up with you no like here's your shit goodbye um it was back and forth yes
00:47:52.520
dude i think that's a respectful thing to do like even though your relationship was toxic and
00:47:57.180
unconventional at least you had the baseline respect of hey i'm gonna return your things and not i would
00:48:02.460
be like can i please just like have my clothes back like don't do anything to it or anything like
00:48:07.260
that and i appreciate that at least i didn't some questions for you here well you mean this uh this
00:48:12.940
totally sane man uh bagged your clothes up and just gave them back to you he didn't even burn them
00:48:20.320
he didn't he didn't destroy your stuff that's great i can't i can't believe it i've returned clothes i
00:48:26.080
have don't get me wrong i've returned clothes before here let me ask some clarifying questions so
00:48:32.000
this wasn't somebody you dated it was a friend's love interest yes what how old were you guys
00:48:40.060
um this was you said college yeah this was this was a while ago maybe you're 21 so what a year ago
00:48:49.280
two years ago two years ago 19 okay so let's get some details about let's see if there's any sort of
00:48:57.320
justification here so he you said he was leading her on right okay so how many times did they
00:49:07.720
date go on dates how many times did they meet up pretty often like i'd say a few times a week for
00:49:14.720
how long for like over three months they were dating so you but so what what was the point
00:49:24.520
there must have been some occurrence or event that precipitated the clothes burning
00:49:29.860
you burning the clothes yeah well was that what um i guess like cheating in a sense he cheated
00:49:41.260
were they ever exclusive were they yeah so you were technically the side chick the side chick
00:49:49.840
wait no i don't think she was involved oh no i wasn't it wasn't my relationship okay
00:49:54.380
never mind so they were never officially exclusive okay they were they okay it was on like both ends
00:50:02.500
there was there's different answers there's different answers to that i'm so confused there
00:50:06.840
was different answers to that so like according to one they work or another they were it was different
00:50:11.820
times like thrown up but so she was seeing other dudes he was seeing other no she wasn't
00:50:20.380
she was seeing him but he ended up seeing another girl and so you guys were like well she was being
00:50:27.780
led on by this guy so let's burn a shirt yes there's definitely two sides to the story for sure
00:50:34.980
he probably thought this was like a casual hookup did she ever bring up are what are we are we in a
00:50:43.840
relationship are you my boyfriend did she ever have that conversation with him yeah i believe so
00:50:49.860
and so what did he say i believe it just like went in like circles like never really like a definite
00:50:57.340
answer so he was just wanting to hook up yeah he was just wanting to see but he he never agreed he
00:51:02.920
never said yes you're my girlfriend correct he said nah let's see how it goes type shit yeah i believe so
00:51:10.120
you believe so yeah because the way now do you see where there's an issue this is no she never
00:51:16.620
dated him i never i never dated i know but you burned his clothes right yeah she said it would
00:51:20.980
make her feel better it would make her so you were just okay but then you said you would also
00:51:25.720
possibly do that it with a partner maybe um with a partner i don't yeah i'm not as like i'm not as
00:51:34.980
like that with myself as i am with like my friends other people with my entire situation it was also
00:51:39.680
was that the same friend different friend they're two different friends two different situations
00:51:43.460
with two different friends okay so she's just a ride or die bestie wow is what i'm hearing that's
00:51:49.500
yeah not for me i'm not because the way you originally described it you said well he kind of led her on
00:51:55.900
a little bit which makes me think they were never in a relationship it sounds like they were just
00:52:02.740
just like he was they were having sex and just for a long time with my other friend they were
00:52:10.720
dating grid one motorsports donated one hundred dollars less than smart blonde girl realize this
00:52:19.040
is me calling you a liar you do not have to lie to be more interesting and it is a sin
00:52:24.500
gentlemen this is why you cannot believe sheet women say i'm not lying buddy all right okay i i
00:52:33.820
don't know it does it does sound a little more fantastical as we go on here just saying i don't
00:52:38.760
know that the situation of like their relationship and like it's their relationship so i don't want to
00:52:44.900
like say i mean i can also say this there's all there's a huge tendency oftentimes for uh
00:52:51.500
uh i mean i don't want to make this like totally a gendered thing but i've definitely experienced that
00:52:57.440
women more so than men have a tendency to minimize the things they've done wrong and emphasize the
00:53:04.940
things that their partner's done wrong in order to garner favor from whoever they're telling their
00:53:10.540
fucking bullshit sob story to um if i'm ever asking anybody for advice i'm gonna say here's what i've done
00:53:17.920
wrong here's what they did wrong and i'm gonna try to be as like unbiased and neutral as possible
00:53:23.200
but people tend to minimize like i said the ways in which they're culpable and they'll try to um
00:53:30.300
they'll try to uh what's the term for it elevate the ways in which the other person has done wrong
00:53:36.720
they're gonna downplay themselves and then they're going to hyper inflate every story around them because
00:53:41.240
it also women just do that in general because they want to sound important and feel important and feel
00:53:46.460
listened and heard to so in any story most of the time women are exaggerating not all the time not
00:53:51.740
all the time there's honest people out there i'm i know i'm not lying i just don't want to i don't
00:53:56.540
want to tell the story wrong because it's not like my story to tell so i don't i'm not lying it was
00:54:00.620
your clothes to burn apparently i did burn the shirt it was your clothes to burn the shirt but it's just
00:54:05.660
it's not my well the shirt part yeah but we need to get this guy on the pod we need to come on the
00:54:11.120
podcast see what the story is yeah um he knows the shirt was burned i'm so sorry but um may i use
00:54:18.280
the restroom yeah go for it thank you you you don't need to ask by the way you just feel free to
00:54:22.400
thank that's that's fine though um and then you're single over here yeah uh single for five years
00:54:29.280
so any dating apps um i'm on bumble oh yeah do you mind if i just ask her a question oh okay
00:54:36.080
i've been um sure i just wanted to ask you like was it worth it like doing those things oh burning
00:54:41.900
the shirt yeah and like slashing the tires for your friends like was it worth it um i'd well for
00:54:47.620
the shirt i'd say the burning the shirt was kind of it was like funny to us in a sense i don't know
00:54:52.660
it was it was funny it made her feel better and it was just a it was a like what if murdering him
00:54:58.100
made her feel better and it was just funny to you justification it was just like a nothing shirt
00:55:06.020
it was like it was like a cutoff what if it was like let's say his dad was in the uh you know
00:55:13.460
he was in bosnia son he was in the shit and that was his dad's last shirt he wore before he got
00:55:21.860
you know it wasn't that was his his dad's shirt that he wore in the bosnian war son
00:55:29.240
how you gonna burn that shit straight up i wouldn't burn that it's it was just like a nothing
00:55:34.800
throwaway priceless it was priceless how did you know token of war what if it was his favorite gym
00:55:41.060
shirt but do you did you ask him were you like hey is this your favorite shirt before i burn it
00:55:46.440
well i do i do kind of like know him wait so what was his reaction what was he was like yo that's
00:55:55.620
crazy yeah very much so crazy yeah you're crazy but like in a funny way like he didn't really care
00:56:03.040
here i have a i want to give you a scenario let's just flip the genders and a dude burned a girl
00:56:14.800
wasn't ready to commit to this guy she'd been seeing for a while and but they were hooking up
00:56:21.480
but just she wasn't ready to commit you know and uh she she the guy then had
00:56:30.320
one of him and his male friends conspired to go and burn an article of clothing of hers
00:56:44.500
the braunasons donated one hundred dollars jesus christ the crazy chick is nuts she is too ugly and
00:56:53.620
has a cups you do not get to burn stuff and slash tires unless you 36 dd know your place say christ is
00:57:01.600
lord well that's a bit rude right he's not wrong i mean oh well i don't know if you should admit
00:57:13.960
so i'm just wait he's not wrong about the 36 double d's part you're only allowed to burn stuff if you
00:57:20.960
have large mammaries 36 double d's okay like that's so crazy okay if that's if that's
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minor triple you can so okay like i just painted the scenario where it's basically you're allowed
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to burn the genders are reversed i'm a bit of a pyro so i was wondering if you gained satisfaction
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and if you let him know because it just at the end of the day it just sounds like call yes it is
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problematic behavior i will not dismiss that but it just sounds like two girls one was hurt one was
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like hey let's burn his shirt yes and um okay let's do it but for me i i would have like at least
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videoed it or something and i would have done it in a safe place yeah and then you know just like
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kind of like express that but you know like at the end of the day like if you didn't have anything else
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going on you didn't have anything better to do it just sounds like yeah college behavior exactly
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what yes it is problematic no that's not typical that's not typical college okay what what do i i i'm
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not going to say i'm a college kid or i i went to college very briefly but i that just sounds like
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another crazy college story it is so that's that's all i have to say about that i mean that's a great
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way to just sort of sum it up and this is why you shouldn't go to college oh okay yeah how come typical
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college behavior isn't um oh i don't know learning higher education but rather it should be it should
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be but things like american and burning people's clothes why is that standard college behavior just
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out of curiosity uh it's a balance it's a balance of oh yeah it's a balancing act it's the prostitution
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to education ratio you know it's a balance of education and um having fun with your friends
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can i add something sure and then we're going to move on from this um i think going back as you
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mentioned gender roles right the switch is if it was uh you know females clothing being burned i feel
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like they would call campus police you know and it'd be a legal thing so i think it would be escalated
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higher not everybody but i think that the situation would have been different i will say stuff like
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this happens all the time on my campus okay um so going to you uh i think i was asking your single
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status uh any prospects at all are you currently dating anybody um currently just started talking
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to somebody like this what does that what does it mean to just be talking to somebody um phone calls
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phone calls yeah we matched match on bumble correct yeah we matched on bumble and um we've
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been just having phone conversation it's very new like probably three days have you uh you guys live
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in the same city yep we both live in arizona how many phone calls have you had maybe like four
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it seems i mean it seems a little excessive to me but uh we haven't gone on a date yet but we
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have one plan when i come back to arizona after this podcast okay all right and uh so single for
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five years was it just like string after string of yeah i mean if i'm being honest with you i just
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noticed like a pattern um like three to six months i would have like kind of a fling and then somehow
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i would get ghosted or it would just end it and then i noticed that after they dated me they ended up
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you know in a relationship or engaged or did have a baby on the way so did you sleep with them sorry
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um no not like all of them no not all of them all of them what do you mean so you there's multiple men
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that you dated for three to six months and you didn't sleep with them i rather not like disclose
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that information but i'm not honestly not all of them no okay so you're telling me there's some men
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that you'll sleep with prior to three months but other men you wouldn't like i just that doesn't
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make any sense to me um that's just kind of how it happened like they didn't want to fuck or you
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were making some men wait and other men you would just fuck on the first date um probably a little bit
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of both if i'm being honest with you so you would be in a
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why the differing standard there i mean that would if i was dating a woman who
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if i was dating a woman who her previous guy she was in a relationship with she fucked him on the
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first night and then she's gonna make me wait three to six months and then the next guy she fucks she
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fucks on the first night i'm gonna be like well why did you make me wait three months but the last guy
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you fucked was immediately and the next guy you fucked was immediately i'd be like what yeah i
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can understand so is that but that's what you were doing basically well it's been five years right so
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like within that time i've grown up right so i was like 25 recently single after eight year relationship
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so i was kind of seeing things a little bit differently and now that i'm 30 like going back
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to i'm dating with intention of like i want something serious i want to get married i want a family
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so that's kind of how it changed i guess over time because i matured so are you waiting until marriage
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um no i mean i'm not really sure honestly i don't really have a stance on that um yeah
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i had a question of course could it be that um in in that time you um
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with whichever with every relationship where there was three to six months whatever um you
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went through something and um that's why the next one you probably bounced into it too quickly and
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you're like no no no i'm gonna do things differently yeah and then it ended up being the same result no
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matter what you did yeah um because i could kind of see that that's why some were and some weren't
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people that you slept with right kind of because we're kind of like emotional creatures that's why
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like back-to-back dating is not great for women yeah because of the emotional toll it can take on us
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yeah um but that's the only thing i was kind of thinking that maybe why you had some encounters with
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right what is the word you use brian you had some carnal knowledge and others you did not
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yeah and i i think you're exactly right i mean in between those times of course i took
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like a couple months off of dating somebody i mean i i guess i've just been single for so long
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that um i think there was two or three months in between and then i would meet somebody else like
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i wouldn't just jump from a relationship nickelodeon donated 100 dollars lol emotional depends on how
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many white claws and fireballs she's knocked back that night
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thank you nickelodeon appreciate it um i mean i have a bunch of thoughts on this but i'm there's a
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bunch of uh tts's that are about to come through so i'm kind of just waiting on it but guys go to
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seven million seven hundred and seventy seven thousand seven hundred eighty seven donated 100
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He was asking, we'll come back to the whole single situation.
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So, you were saying that you would maybe earlier on in this 25 to 30 single period, you would,
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did you have any like casual hookups or one night stands, anything like that?
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I would say, I would say, I would say hook, oh, okay.
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And were these like from dating apps or you'd go out to bars and clubs or?
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Um, I don't think there was, they were, I think dating apps were kind of like, like a little
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I wasn't really on them because I was single for so long, but I would just, um, cause I
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So from the guy's perspective on this, um, on one hand, um, I'm not saying that women
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And if it's your genuine value shift of, okay, well, previously I was engaging in promiscuity.
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Maybe I should wait longer periods before having sex with men.
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Uh, I still kind of look, it's your, it's your prerogative, of course, at the end of
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the day, but we as men are also allowed in the same way, for example, if you encountered
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a man who you, you, he was kind of, uh, he wanted to go 50, 50 and he never took you on
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any trips and he was, um, he, he wasn't ready to give you monogamy immediately, but then
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you find out that in all his past relationships, he gave monogamy very quick, quick to all his
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He was a provider protector, never 50, 50 would be, he would just always be providing, paying
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But then he says, well, I'm not doing any of that stuff because I really like you.
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And all those previous girls were just short-term flings and mistakes.
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So when girls say, well, all those guys in the past that I immediately, immediately had
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They were fuck boys and assholes and they weren't deserving, but I really, really like you.
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We're going to wait three months for you to receive this, this benefit of having sex.
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I can understand where you're coming from for sure.
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And if they make the conscious decision of, you know, I am going to wait to have sex with
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this person, whether it's until marriage, whether it's six months, whether it's a year
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engagement, whatever it is for that person, which personally, I do believe that waiting
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for marriage is 10 times more beneficial for every single relationship, but you can have
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a past and then also be saved or make that decision of I'm going to date with intention
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You need to find a guy who's willing to accept that, in my view, frankly, kind of subpar, suboptimal
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But I also think it's a double standard for guys.
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Well, my personal recommendation though for men is that's not an acceptable scenario.
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So she should, she ought to go find a guy who's willing to accept that the 10, 20, 30 previous
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But when you finally come along after she's had her fun in her twenties, now she's 30,
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all of a sudden she's going to change up and then you're going to wait three months,
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Is it the same standard for a man if he slept with 20 or 30 women?
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And then all of a sudden it was like, I don't have, I want to wait.
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As a woman, if you're desirous of having sex early on in a relationship and the man, despite
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his past of promiscuity is like, well, I've turned a new leaf and I'm waiting until marriage
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as a woman, you're certainly also inclined to say, well, I don't want to wait to have
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You fucked a bunch of chicks really quickly in your past.
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I don't think, I don't think women hold that position as frequently as men do, but
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Women can have the exact same standard on this as men can.
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And so just to my personal view on this, if that was always her standard from the very
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beginning, from the very beginning, then, then that's a different conversation.
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But if you're going to, you fucked a bunch of dudes in your twenties.
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Now you're 30, now you're trying, it makes the guy feel like a sucker.
01:10:44.700
Now, women are in this damned if you do, damned if you don't position though, because I'm not
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Because I don't think that they should just necessarily, we talked about this last time,
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because if a woman is getting into a new relationship with a man and she decides to hook up with him
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and it doesn't work out in her favor, then she is adding another man to her body count, which
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is then going to negatively impact her for her next relationship.
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And so I think it's 10 times more valuable if that woman were to hold out and say, you
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I am not ready to have sex with this partner until you get to know them.
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And I think that's just an equal honoring and respecting.
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So is this, is this kind of like from the view of the future potential partner's position,
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So he's going to judge her in a certain type of way like that, or is that for her own self?
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Because like, let's say she's, she slept with 50 men and then, okay.
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If she has another one after the 51 or 52, it won't necessarily make a difference.
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She's still like, her body count's still going to be a massive disqualifier.
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If you're at the 10 or under mark, like, you know, having another intimate relationship
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does psychologically and hormonally, you know, impact a woman more than it would impact
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Then she should also wait to receive all the benefits that she would all otherwise receive
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So maybe she, she doesn't get any provider benefits because she should wait, right?
01:12:12.520
So are you saying that a woman can only provide sex?
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No, but provide, but, but when we're, what do you mean?
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Like if a man is paying for a first date, what does the, okay.
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You know, that is showing her, if she is waiting, she wants a man that's going to be able to
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provide the, okay, little things that are shown there.
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So men are typically expected to make the first move, approach, initiate, set up the date,
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plan the date, handle the logistics, pay for the date, go for the first kiss, move things
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So that's, what's expected very early and upfront from the man.
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So if that, that's kind of what men are expected to do, then what are women expected to do early
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I would say respect them, show them feminine intentions and just be a feminine woman.
01:13:15.140
Like if, if a man is putting in this much effort to go and see you, you know, you're
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going to do your hair, you're going to look nice, you're going to give him attention, you're
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You know, if he's opening up your door for you, if he's going to offer him to pick you
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Like if you want a feminine woman and I'll use the word like biblically, right?
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You know, in marriage, a woman will submit to her husband's authority because her husband
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is submitting to the, to Christ and is leading the household.
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So you're trusting that they are going to lead you in the future.
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So as a woman, when you're going on a date, you know, it's not an interview.
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You're just getting to know that person and you are appreciative and thankful for them,
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you know, being the leader and showing that masculine energy.
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And you there are being feminine and showing your feminine qualities because it is an equal
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You previously slept with your past 10 sexual partners.
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But you're not going to take every girl out on a first date, you know?
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Like if you were intentionally or looking to date someone, you'll take them on a date.
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Like then you can like have a more intense bond with her anyway, or else it's better for
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But if you're talking like a woman who is like, you know what?
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If you've been celibate for three years and then you want to wait, fine.
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But don't like, don't pull this game of like, oh, I want to wait three months, but then you
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That's, that's the issue I have with it is being consistent in your values.
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If you don't mind, I wouldn't mind engaging a bit on this topic with you.
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So to speak to his actual point with no deflection at all, what would the TPUSA position on this
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Would the TPUSA position on this be that if a guy does end up, you know, dating a chick
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who was very promiscuous just a month before and she has suddenly turned to Christ in her
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thirties, of course, that he should date her, that, that he should wait.
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I mean, what, what, what is the prescription here?
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Well, if you're going to be charitable to Brian's view.
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No, I, I actually agree with Brian when it comes to if somebody had been promiscuous
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for months prior, and then all of a sudden this has decided, okay, you know, today's
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the day I'm going to go on a date and I'm going to save myself.
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I think there's a lot more work that goes into that than just one week of hooking up
01:16:13.120
with someone and all of, then all of a sudden the week later, you want to go on a date
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Like there's a lot of steps that we're missing here.
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So of course, if a woman has slept with, you know, 10 men or however many, and then
01:16:23.580
is now going on a first date a week later or a month later, I do think that's a little
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Personally, I do think that's a little early to be like, okay, now I want to wait.
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I think as a woman, you would need to honestly reevaluate yourself and not date for a little
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From a man's perspective, that should be a massive red flag, right?
01:16:48.680
So then I don't even understand what your argument with Brian is about then because that's what
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That's literally all the guy is saying is, well, how is this not a red flag that you decided,
01:17:01.880
As you tend to see many of the porn stars, even who come through this show, who suddenly
01:17:09.340
They continue to do porn, interestingly enough, but they claim that they did anyway.
01:17:13.980
Are we supposed to give an excuse or excuse their past 100 sex partners just because now
01:17:26.080
No, it's 100% a red flag, 100% because it's a lack of judgment and I do believe that Jesus
01:17:32.120
Christ does save us for our sins, but I don't think it's going to be an overnight switch
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of one day, like the day you become saved, the next day all of a sudden, clean slate.
01:17:41.440
Well, it is a clean slate, but it's not like the next day you're going to jump into a relationship.
01:17:44.440
I mean, this is a years and years and years long process.
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So if somebody has decided to save themselves, like let's say five years later and then you
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become into a monogamous relationship, let's say you're an ex-porn star, whatever it is.
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But no, I'm not disagreeing with Brian if looking at the timelines of a one week to a month.
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Well, then I guess you're going to have to look at Brian and say, Brian, you were right.
01:18:12.160
If a woman has waited two to three years and has not engaged and has truly dedicated her
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But I will give you that you're right with the red flag.
01:18:44.020
Well, statistically, if you're looking at like her history of like past hookups and dating
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and then she claims she seeks salvation, it's something to like, I feel like something to
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But at the same time, according to like, if we're getting into religious purposes, like
01:19:21.280
To skew this, as a man whore until I was 32, when I dated with intent to marry and met
01:19:29.240
We had sex the first night and have not been apart since.
01:19:35.880
Yeah, I mean, I can speak from my own personal experience also, Grid One.
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I mean, I've had a five-year relationship, two-year relationship.
01:19:42.760
I've had other long-term, I've had a nine-month, one-year relationship.
01:19:46.540
Most of these were not like, let's, let's go on the dates for three months and then finally
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Wait, so, you're saying something about, well, considering a woman's past promiscuity is
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I'm saying it's, like, you can take it into account, but I'm saying, like, let he who is
01:20:28.480
Are you suggesting men should not consider women who've slept with a hundred men previously
01:20:36.880
No, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that they, they can consider whoever they want, however
01:20:43.200
I'm saying, like, to judge them openly, verbally.
01:20:53.700
And that's, that's, that's all, that's all he's saying, right?
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I don't really, I'm not going to, like, have a laugh and be like, oh, you fucking slut.
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No, it's just, it, to me, it's like me advising other men, don't date those kinds of women.
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And for me personally, I would not date that kind of woman.
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That's the extent, that's the extent of my commentary.
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I don't make it a, a mission to go out of my way and be like,
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look, look at this particular woman who's a slut.
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Now, in my own assessment, I'm, I'm of course thinking, well, I don't think this would be
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a good person to date, but that's really the extent of it.
01:21:36.700
I'm not going to go on the offensive and be belligerent and attack you for it.
01:21:42.440
This is a suboptimal dating choice, dating move.
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And for me personally, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be about it.
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But look, I mean, I think it's wonderful if women are choosing to move in less permissuous
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ways, if you, you know, try to prioritize long-term relationships, I think that's great, but do
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realize even if you do make that proactive choice to change up the way you move, that
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men are still going to consider perhaps her past actions and behavior.
01:22:22.540
And even, even though you've changed, still preclude you from wanting to pursue you for
01:22:28.240
a serious relationship or any kind of relationship.
01:22:30.720
And, uh, in that scenario though, I can just tell, I'm just sort of explaining the guy's
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perspective here of, well, because for example, we had, I'm not going to expose her, but we
01:22:41.960
had a Christian girl come on the show and she said multiple times that she was waiting
01:22:46.660
I think she, she'd been on the show twice and then she came back on the show and she
01:22:52.200
said, well, I'm waiting till marriage to have sex.
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She came back on the show and she, I mean, I give her credit for at least admitting this.
01:23:02.540
I had sex with somebody and then it'd be very hard.
01:23:08.340
For example, if I had been dating her in between that time and then, but she was like, oh, I'm
01:23:16.120
And then I find out like a week after we break up, for example, after I dated you for three
01:23:21.000
months and despite, you know, my desires to have sex, you're like, no, no, no.
01:23:25.720
And then as soon as we break up, you go and fuck another guy.
01:23:31.580
But I'd be like, well, did you really think that?
01:23:36.380
And then similarly, if I was about to pursue a woman who said.
01:23:50.140
It's that withholding sex is a tool of manipulation.
01:23:58.400
I don't think women should use sex as a tool for manipulation.
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A woman shouldn't withhold sex within marriage personally.
01:24:06.400
Well, he's even talking before, before that, but if you're going on dates, well, they're
01:24:11.240
using it for compliance or leverage to secure, um, to secure a long-term relationship or
01:24:21.060
What do you mean for the guy or no for, well, either way, I just, I don't think you should
01:24:30.180
Um, I'm trying to remember where I was, what I was saying.
01:24:34.880
I would also kind of feel like, uh, getting a, a bit of a raw deal if I just met a girl
01:24:41.460
and she told me that a month ago she had a one night stand with a guy, but now that she's
01:24:52.140
I'd be like, my dude, a month ago, you fucked some dude in a club.
01:24:59.200
Good for you, but I feel like I'm getting a raw deal here.
01:25:03.220
Like, that's, it's not like, it's not me feeling entitled to anything.
01:25:09.340
It's me like, okay, I feel like a sucker in this situation.
01:25:20.000
Would there be like nothing else you were getting from the relationship?
01:25:25.480
Because normally, like, when you consider a relationship, you consider like multiple
01:25:31.160
Sure, I, oh, you can obviously, women offer a great deal outside of sex.
01:25:35.480
What if there was something else that you like found in her, like another quality that you
01:25:39.020
She'd basically have to be a slave for me to accept this very suboptimal scenario where
01:25:47.480
I'm essentially a sucker for a month ago, because this is the scenario I gave.
01:25:52.240
A month ago, she had a one night stand with some dude, and now she's telling me she wants
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to wait three months, six months, or until marriage to have sex.
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Because she's going to have to basically be a slave for me.
01:26:10.620
She's got to clean, do some Mr. Miyagi shit, paint the, paint the fence.
01:26:19.980
In this suboptimal scenario, yes, I understand where you're coming from.
01:26:26.200
Um, I also don't think any sane woman who wants to date you would say, oh, hey, by the
01:26:34.720
way, I just got banged two weeks ago, but I want to wait with you.
01:26:41.920
So this is a far out hypothetical that probably will never happen.
01:26:49.580
It's about like, just again, y'all are going to love me for this discretion, right?
01:26:55.220
You don't need to know anything about what I did two weeks ago.
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You don't need to know about the date I had two weeks ago.
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Because if I find out, if we're, let's say we get engaged and you fucking lied to me about
01:27:16.280
I don't care if the wedding is fucking planned.
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And if you fuck, you should never fucking, you shouldn't lie to a guy like that.
01:27:33.440
I don't see a nick wall, so I was just making sure.
01:27:43.700
So I think it's a really far out hypothetical situation that no woman's going to go on a
01:27:49.940
date with you and then tell you that they did something two weeks ago.
01:27:53.980
And if she wants to wait for three months, then like, yeah, it's a shitty situation.
01:28:02.220
Well, the thing is, is like, I assume on this first date there would be some conversation
01:28:08.640
about, you know, where our values align or don't align when it comes to the rapidity
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with which we would, oh, this sounds, I'm framing this in, you know, when it comes to, do you
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And so if on that date she says, well, I'm waiting till marriage, but in like the scenario
01:28:32.900
you gave two weeks ago, she fucked some dude, uh, you know, that would be, I'd find that
01:28:43.980
Like that's not really in alignment with what you just told me.
01:28:47.000
And then that's your choice to pursue that or not.
01:28:49.800
And that's what she was saying is it takes time to kind of make those changes and you have
01:28:55.260
to also, and like that girl who said she had a slip up, it takes time to implement these
01:29:06.880
So is your advice then to you, you ought to omit or lie to men and not reveal?
01:29:13.240
My, my, my stance is it's so hypothetical and it's so far fetched that like most girls
01:29:21.920
If I'm actually interested in a girl, one of the questions I might ask her when first
01:29:26.760
meeting her and screening her out is when's the last time you've had, I mean, the phrasing
01:29:37.880
No, I said, when's the last time you've had sex with someone?
01:29:40.660
That's a question I might ask because I want to know you fucked a guy last week, not interested.
01:29:48.420
But so would you recommend a woman in that situation to lie?
01:29:53.140
She needs to say like, okay, you know, like she needs to be forthcoming.
01:29:57.940
I'm just saying like most women wouldn't have that kind of switch up or would say that.
01:30:04.220
So then wouldn't it be wiser, wouldn't it be wiser advice then to say that if this is something
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which is new to you, if you've just made this switch over in your life, that you should
01:30:14.800
I wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly agree with that.
01:30:23.120
It's just, I got animated when I was talking to you and she was just like, okay, let's just,
01:30:30.120
Um, okay, so, well, why don't we, I wonder if there's any other, maybe I could give another
01:30:38.880
Someone recommended to me there's a handbag analogy that's good for this one.
01:30:45.320
Um, that's, now, now people are going to, I'm making sure there's no nip slip guys.
01:30:51.740
I'm, people are like, oh, he's trying to take a peek.
01:30:57.820
We have, can we get the rating started and wife scale, please?
01:31:02.460
So he's talking about the rating one to 10, uh, wife scale, I guess.
01:31:14.780
Like, are you wife material on a scale of one to 10?
01:31:20.440
So we'll go around the table really quick on this.
01:31:25.920
I, I have full capabilities of becoming a wife.
01:31:35.300
I mean, you're, you are a, correct me if I'm wrong, you are a sex worker, right?
01:31:44.540
Why would you, why would you think that you would make a good wife?
01:31:47.940
Just because I have a certain profession does not take away from my ability to care, love
01:31:55.300
and provide something that my partner is seeking.
01:32:02.640
Have you ever heard of a phenomenon called pair bonding?
01:32:06.220
Are you aware that the less sexual partners a woman has, the more, the easier it is and
01:32:12.080
the more likely it is that she can pair bond with her first sexual partner.
01:32:17.140
But that doesn't mean that I can't bond with my person now.
01:32:21.760
You could be the exception to the rule, but wouldn't it throw up a red flag if it was,
01:32:26.200
if it was known that the more sexual partners a woman had, the less likely it would be that
01:32:35.780
For instance, the more men you sleep with, the more likely you are to be divorced, for
01:32:40.640
The more men you sleep with, the more likely you are to step out of a long-term relationship.
01:32:45.880
All of those things are true, and that's probably due to this pair bonding thing.
01:32:50.380
So, why would a man want to trust a sex worker to be a wife?
01:32:54.420
Maybe he has also been a part of the industry and understands.
01:33:00.900
And also, there are men who make allowances or grace for women and their past.
01:33:08.500
There are men out there, and it's not a subpar choice.
01:33:14.900
And as far as pair bonding goes, I believe that it is up to the woman and her own intuition
01:33:22.040
and her own body and her own ability to connect with oneself when it comes to connecting with
01:33:30.340
You have to know deep down, like you can get all scientific, you can bring me statistics,
01:33:35.020
but all it boils down to is the woman's self-awareness and the connection that she has with herself.
01:33:47.460
Well, I was just curious, as we get into more of the scientifical data here, if we can maybe
01:34:01.240
If your son came to you and said, Mom, I'm going to marry a sex worker, what would your
01:34:10.660
So my advice to my son, if he wanted to pursue a sex worker, was does she have an exit plan?
01:34:23.640
And if not, what is that trajectory going to look like?
01:34:29.460
And there's no just like copy and paste answer to this.
01:34:36.900
And if it's not a good fit, then it's not a good fit.
01:34:39.840
And it's not going to be beneficial or healthy for everyone.
01:34:44.700
Now, let's say he came home with Betty Sue and he loved Betty Sue.
01:34:55.360
And their prospects look about the same to you.
01:34:58.440
Which one would you recommend your boy go with?
01:35:13.240
Should I go with the prostitute or with Betty Sue?
01:35:17.080
I would look at either one's, either girl's ambition and what they want to do with their life.
01:35:28.960
And that prostitute or whoever it is can be self-sufficient and want to add value.
01:35:37.660
And they both have about the same resources to go to veterinarian school.
01:35:41.400
If you had to choose, which one would you tell your boy he should go with?
01:35:44.940
Whoever's going to add the most value to his life.
01:35:47.740
And if this prostitute or whoever it is can give him more life advice or more knowledge
01:35:55.000
that's going to help him in the long term, then so be it.
01:36:00.520
And which one would you just intuitively say, without looking at any scientific data at all,
01:36:06.340
if your boy asked you, which one do you think will be more loyal to me?
01:36:10.000
Which one would you think you would tell him would be more loyal, was more likely to be more loyal to him?
01:36:16.480
I believe it's all about their own personal choice to commit.
01:36:21.420
I mean, you can look at someone's past behavior.
01:36:25.960
But it's about the commitment and the now and the choice that they're making.
01:36:29.180
So, Betty Sue may have, she may have not been with anyone else and that might motivate her to pursue other options.
01:36:36.700
As opposed to this prostitute who has been with several people and knows what else is out there,
01:36:42.440
knows that my son is a good man and that she is winning the lottery because she has experienced all of these other things.
01:36:50.480
But sexual experience means nothing in the dating world because if your son, hypothetical son,
01:36:56.240
is going into a relationship with a sex worker, which both of you are.
01:37:04.360
Left to right, Morgan wife eight, purple jacket three, not a wife, already a wife,
01:37:09.820
angry A cups four and not a wife, Kmart Cardi B four, Queen of Australia six wife,
01:37:16.360
Bunny Ranch thought four, Leche banks three, not a wife.
01:37:24.780
We have one more coming through and then Morgan will finish with her question there.
01:37:32.940
Oh, so the guys before me weren't good enough for you to settle down with,
01:37:40.780
Now I'm the man of your dreams, but I don't even get what the bums got.
01:37:47.180
I mean, that's going back to what I was talking about before.
01:37:50.480
So women will like, it's just funny with that, like they'll give the sexual benefit
01:37:56.200
to these, you'll say they're fuck boys, they were jerks, assholes, not deserving of it.
01:38:02.660
And then the guy who is actually deserving of it, he's the good guy, whatever.
01:38:10.840
Men are waking up to this and seeing that's kind of a raw deal.
01:38:19.980
I was just curious, just curious on this, just back to you real quick.
01:38:23.020
How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
01:38:45.120
She would tell him neither because her degenerate ass will be desperate to keep the only man
01:38:57.180
Angie, do you want to explain that really quick?
01:38:58.680
Yeah, so this question, and it's more of a meme, it doesn't really have any scientific
01:39:10.860
If you ask a person what they had for breakfast this morning, you're engaging, or how would
01:39:16.020
they feel if they hadn't had breakfast this morning?
01:39:19.380
What you're doing is you're engaging in a hypothetical and you're trying to examine what they think
01:39:24.800
they would feel like had they not eaten breakfast, but there's many people who can't engage in
01:39:30.040
hypotheticals, and so they just respond with, but I did have breakfast this morning, and
01:39:40.140
And you, just to be clear, you did have breakfast this morning.
01:39:45.200
Okay, all I hear is breakfast right now, so let's keep it rolling.
01:39:50.120
The point I was making is that if there is a woman who has a significantly high body
01:39:57.020
count, a sex worker, and then a woman who does not, statistically, morally, physically,
01:40:02.800
you can know your inner being as much as you want, but if you have slept with 100 plus people
01:40:08.320
or even 50 plus people, that woman is going to most likely cheat on her husband, she is
01:40:15.460
going to want to divorce her husband, she is going to want to leave in that situation,
01:40:21.640
You can sleep around with as many people as you want in your past life and then going
01:40:25.420
into a marriage, but that sexual experience is not actually offering anything to the marriage
01:40:30.480
other than her actually being insecure in that marriage and always constantly comparing.
01:40:36.340
And Andrew was bringing up pair bonding, and it's the oxytocin, it's the hormones in a
01:40:40.680
woman's body that is being released that when you are engaging in intercourse with a man,
01:40:45.520
you are being bonded to that person and then creating the inability to be able to connect
01:40:50.780
with future partners for a longer term relationship.
01:40:53.980
But I've also heard people being like, like older people being like, like 30s in their 40s
01:40:59.280
being like, I've only slept with my wife and da da da da da, and this is why we're breaking
01:41:06.780
And like, I wish I got to experience more people when I was younger.
01:41:09.980
And I feel like that the man or the woman, a lot of the times the man, a lot of the times
01:41:17.300
the man, which I mean, sure, that may be like a five to 10% of, I don't think it's a 10%
01:41:24.300
There is a significant large gap between women who have a lower body count versus women who
01:41:30.340
have a higher body count and the happiness in marriage, success in marriage and divorce
01:41:34.560
I mean, 53% of marriages end in divorce in America and 80% are initiated by the woman.
01:41:43.820
Also the multiple relationships, multiple, the sexual relationships, whatever.
01:41:51.480
You're also practicing to divorce because you're never committing to anything.
01:41:58.680
And so the more partners that you're having, the more likely it is that you're going to divorce.
01:42:03.800
You'd have to work 10 times as hard to stay in that relationship had you been somebody
01:42:12.280
How do you not have feelings for people that you have sex with?
01:42:20.900
It's about compartmentalizing and it's a choice.
01:42:33.400
Because at the end of the day, like it's a job and it's like, okay, are you like, I'm
01:42:40.980
not going to chalk it up to anything because it's its own field and there's no right comparison
01:42:46.900
and I would be doing it injustice if I tried to make a comparison.
01:42:50.620
But it's about compartmentalizing and it is the choice to kind of turn on those feelings
01:42:59.640
And if you are someone who does not have that ability, then maybe that's not the right field
01:43:04.920
or maybe you need to get in touch with yourself a little bit more before you start to engage
01:43:11.940
Do you think it's gotten easier to compartmentalize the more you've been in the industry?
01:43:23.300
Um, it's something that you have to have kind of already and you have to have that relationship
01:43:30.700
That's why this industry, this profession is not for everybody.
01:43:34.620
And that's why so many people do have problems.
01:43:37.540
That's why you do hear these stories is because the women themselves have not done that self
01:43:45.020
So then that means that it's, you, you, as you go, it's becoming more and more common
01:43:50.780
for you to be able to not pair bond with your sexual partners.
01:44:05.840
You have, I mean, you can have control over your own feelings and your own emotions as
01:44:15.060
So I can feel something for her and I can feel that strong connection and I can say, no, I
01:44:21.840
don't want to pursue that because that will not honor me in these other ways.
01:44:25.980
But when asked, most women will say, and this is, you can, you, again, you can look up data
01:44:32.280
on this as well, that they don't have a choice as to who it is they're attracted to and who
01:44:37.460
Of course, uh, the reason for this is pair bonding.
01:44:40.580
So if you're saying I can now compartmentalize that and you're basically saying now I can
01:44:46.700
control who it is that I fall in love with and don't fall in love with, it's not even
01:44:53.820
Or now it is a choice, whereas before it would not have been.
01:44:56.900
Wouldn't you consider this to be kind of a pushback against this idea that, um, you know,
01:45:05.040
maybe you're not so great with the pair bonding.
01:45:09.860
Like, why couldn't you just turn it off like that with your boyfriend too?
01:45:19.720
So I, I mean, and some encounters are, I'm going to, it's a progression, right?
01:45:26.020
So when the first time you have sex with someone, you might feel like really, really into them.
01:45:31.020
And then the next time it's, it's not really there, or you might have sex with the first
01:45:38.060
It's great, but you don't feel that connection.
01:45:40.320
But the next time after time has progressed, you feel a deeper connection.
01:45:48.160
Yeah, but, but what I'm saying to you is, is that if most women don't have a choice, let's
01:45:55.880
say on a biological level, they fall head over heels for the person that they engage
01:46:02.140
with the very first time in a sexual romantic relationship, their bio, their biological drive
01:46:17.760
Wouldn't the guy be like, you can just turn that on and off?
01:46:22.420
I mean, that, then that's just, I mean, not everyone's going to have that ability.
01:46:31.940
Not everyone's going to have that ability, but women who've had many, many, many sexual
01:46:36.260
partners, especially who are in the porn industry, I could see them having that ability very
01:46:47.100
So I don't, it seems like that would be, um, like a massive red flag, right?
01:46:54.140
Well, are you, if you're in a relationship, are you able to control it as much as it is
01:46:58.260
opposed to like, say one of your clients or anything like that?
01:47:13.220
Um, so, um, to answer your, your question is for me, sometimes I have to, you know, like
01:47:23.020
with my partner, it's sometimes I want to go and I can dive deeper into that.
01:47:28.700
And then sometimes I just want that sexual satisfaction from my partner.
01:47:32.400
So not everyone all over the world, every time they have sex is going to feel that deep
01:47:38.480
connection with their partner every single time.
01:47:42.100
And it has to be the right moment, the right time.
01:47:45.660
Um, and so if like you, you and your husband are horny and wherever, and you only have a
01:47:51.900
certain amount of time, you're not going to be able to have that whole like special interaction,
01:47:56.400
that special feeling, that magical moment whenever you're crunched for time.
01:48:00.560
So I think it's, it applies all across the board is like, you have to actively seek that and
01:48:10.760
Um, we, the original question was going around the table.
01:48:40.360
I think I'm decently high up there on the wife scale.
01:48:47.200
I feel like, especially with my current partner now.
01:49:00.040
My husband would say 10, but I would actually say like an eight, nine, but I say that because
01:49:06.320
So like, um, wifely duties, like intimacy and stuff has been a little on the lesser side
01:49:15.800
Cause I feel like some of my duties, uh, I haven't been performing a hundred percent because
01:49:21.640
Oh, wait, that's not, that's not a mark against you.
01:49:24.460
That's not a mark against you that you just had a baby.
01:49:26.580
And so you're exhausted and you're staying up all night, taking care of your baby.
01:49:38.960
I was thinking that when the question was asked, I was like, oh, I'm not really like
01:49:43.140
Well, now does your husband have to get up in the middle of the night and go do any of
01:49:48.680
We, um, well then that's, yeah, that's negative numbers.
01:49:55.020
Actually, like, so with, uh, with the pumping, um, he decided like, look, you've been getting
01:50:01.960
up so much, I will take on like, just leave me a bottle and I'll get up with her.
01:50:06.180
Oh, I thought you were going to say he was going to pump.
01:50:14.020
Like, so like, we, we, we came with, you know, uh, uh, a routine.
01:50:35.360
I mean, I have, I just have a caring heart and I feel like I'd be a great wife and I'm
01:50:40.060
great with children and I want a family and that's like where my mindset's at right now
01:50:45.760
The reason I'm a bit, is incredulous the right, is that the right word?
01:50:54.220
That would be the correct context for the word.
01:50:57.400
I also, Brian, am very incredulous, but I'll let you lead off here.
01:51:01.140
You say you're a nine in the wife department, but you've been single for five years.
01:51:14.040
Maybe she's waiting for the right guy to give it to.
01:51:22.200
I'm just, you know, I want the right person and obviously in my past for the five years,
01:51:28.460
And I've been learning and growing and, yeah, I mean, I'm not perfect.
01:51:33.020
I mean, that's a very, that's a high, that's high on the wife scale.
01:51:36.940
I would assume you would have no problem finding a partner if you're a, you know?
01:51:46.080
Wait, did you say of the, like, these three to six month relationships?
01:51:50.240
More often than not, were you ending them or was the guy ending them?
01:51:53.780
Because if you're ending them, you could probably make an argument for you being a nine on the wife scale.
01:52:00.460
But if they're ending it, you know what I mean?
01:52:05.220
But most of the time, maybe I've ended it because I started to realize I want something, you know, more seriously.
01:52:10.860
And some of them weren't taking, you know, taking it as seriously into a relationship.
01:52:25.800
Now do I, because she also rated, do I need to grill you as hard?
01:52:45.860
A lot of guys will actually swipe up on my recipes.
01:52:50.200
I am willing to forego career to pursue motherhood and being a wife.
01:52:57.640
Since I was a kid, I've always wanted to be a mom.
01:53:00.560
Would you still consider, because I mean, you're out there kind of as a, how do you describe
01:53:10.540
Media personality, political commentator, maybe.
01:53:13.700
So, but are you going to, when you, you want to totally retreat from public life once you
01:53:20.920
get married, or will you still kind of do stuff?
01:53:24.640
So, there will be, Instagram and YouTube will still be there, but that will not be at the
01:53:31.440
It will be like, if I have a news hit, or if I have a podcast appearance that I can make,
01:53:36.460
but it's not going to be my current schedule of traveling four times every week, it will
01:53:52.980
I need sons to continue the lineage and take care of the daughters.
01:53:57.420
Brian, what are you on the wife's, I mean, the husband scale?
01:54:33.260
I feel like I'd be much, I think I'd be higher on the father scale.
01:54:44.920
I've never been asked this question, so I feel like I need to, like, think it over.
01:54:48.200
You've got to ask questions that you could be able to answer.
01:54:52.180
So I always get, I always get bamboozled when someone's like, well, tell us about you, Brian.
01:55:00.380
I mean, I can tell you, uh, seven on the husband scale.
01:55:06.900
I'm actually a zero on the husband scale because don't want to get married.
01:55:17.500
But like in the colloquial sense of like a husband, sorry, dandruff, um, fucking just
01:55:25.940
Uh, yeah, I'm a zero because I don't want to get married.
01:55:32.900
I could have a, I could have a, a wife, I'm sorry, not a wife.
01:55:36.880
I could have a, someone I'm with for the rest of my life.
01:55:45.460
Um, maybe a religion, a religious ceremony, but then I'd have to look into the various
01:55:50.480
legalities when it comes to even if you even have a religious ceremony, do you have a common
01:55:58.080
If I ended up moving somewhere, I'd have to look into the legalities of it.
01:56:01.840
If you want to have like a token ceremony or excuse me, I shouldn't say token ceremony.
01:56:07.400
If the, if you're really dead set on having a ceremony, but in the government side and the
01:56:21.620
It's just like, what here, let me ask you a question.
01:56:25.300
What can I get in a marriage that I can't just get from a long-term monogamous relationship?
01:56:33.380
I guess there's like different legal benefits and like-
01:56:51.560
Do you think your kids will care that you're not married to their mom?
01:56:59.280
Maybe if you're raising them in that environment.
01:57:00.740
I mean, there's really no, there's no longer any societal stigma to, uh, to having kids out
01:57:06.620
of wedlock and there's no societal stigma to divorce.
01:57:09.560
So I don't think they would, as so long as we're loving and caring parents, I, I can't
01:57:14.880
imagine the kids, if we raise them in like, for example, a household that doesn't elevate
01:57:20.060
marriage, I don't think they would care to be honest.
01:57:24.700
I mean, depending if they, their, their influence within their friend group, I mean, I don't
01:57:32.800
But so in the, in the spirit of, of Dragon Ball Z, the Dragon Ball Z theme that Brian's
01:57:41.120
been going with since nobody asked me, but I'll tell you anyway, on the husband scale,
01:57:49.540
I am quite possibly the best, which has ever existed on the husband scale.
01:57:55.720
My, um, forementioned, it's over 9,000 orientation around duty to my family.
01:58:07.700
Plus, plus my, my wife said I was a 10, so I'm just, I'm just, I'm just regurgitating
01:58:12.380
But I do, I'll open the question up to the rest of the table, then we'll move on to something
01:58:16.080
But what can I get, or what, what can I get in a marriage that I cannot get in a long-term
01:58:36.060
What do my children get if I'm married to my partner versus just a long-term monogamous
01:58:47.320
No, but it's a long-term, let's say, let's say that relationship goes for life.
01:58:59.380
Like, you know, everything's good compared to me in a long-term relationship.
01:59:20.920
Like, you know, it's going to continue like this.
01:59:36.620
Like if you're looking at it from a religious perspective, it's like.
01:59:42.540
But secular, secular marriage itself doesn't make sense.
01:59:45.940
And to Brian's point, the response that you had was.
01:59:48.940
Well, it seems like it's easier for you to escape.
01:59:55.860
Because right now it's easier for the woman to, quote, escape.
01:59:58.840
And the woman who gets, quote, the benefits, right.
02:00:02.520
Whereas the man does not in the current marriage market for secularists.
02:00:10.960
But what would actually be the point of a secularist getting married?
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I really, I don't understand what the point of that would even be.
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Like, I'm coming from this from a religious point of view.
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But from a secular view, there really isn't a necessary point.
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Oh, you just want to be married on a piece of paper.
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But if you are 100% secular, you're living with your partner, you're sleeping with your
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partner, you're cooking, you're cleaning, you have kids together, you have dogs together.
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It's going to be virtually the same as, than if you were married.
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I think that secularism has tainted what marriage is and the beauty of marriage because it was
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intended of, yes, you get to live with your partner when you're married.
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You get to be intimate with your partner when you're married.
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You get to do these things together when you're married.
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But now in society, we're doing that all before marriage to where it's true.
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What is the point of commitment and having a marriage and having that unity if you're
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Which, so I agree, when there are guys that are like, what is the point of getting married?
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I feel for that because truly within the society that we live in now, what is the point of
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getting married if you're not holding out or waiting or intentionally doing those things
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Yeah, it's really, I don't, there's not really much in it for men right now.
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Because, yeah, everyone can have, men can have anything they want really before marriage.
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And I don't want to be like the black pill, like no one should get married, because I do
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But I do think that women and men both need to raise their standards.
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I think they need to raise their standards to where they're not pursuing something that
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Do you even consider secular marriage marriage?
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You're married, quote unquote, within, you know, government standards.
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But no, I view marriage between a man and a woman under the eyes of God.
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So basically, the panel's advice to the viewers here, if you're not religious, there's no reason,
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Well, also, just to piggyback off that further, there never was, there never was a reason to
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get married other than through religious sanctification.
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If there was, I would like to know what it was.
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And if I can piggyback off of that, not only is there no reason, no beneficial reason to
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get married, there's actually plenty of reasons why you shouldn't get married outside of a
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There's numerous reasons why you should, well, there's numerous reasons why a woman should
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But there's a lot of reasons from the male perspective why you shouldn't do it.
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You can come crying back to me after you get divorced and we'll talk about it.
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So then, so then what, when you want to dispute the prenup because you feel like the prenup was,
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was, uh, unconscionable, you signed an unconscionable contract.
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Then we're going to be paying, we're each going to be paying, or if I'm the breadwinner,
02:03:53.420
I'm going to be paying for my lawyer, and then I have to pay for your lawyer for us
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to argue over the legalities and the, the, uh, enforceability of this contract, which
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Wouldn't the ultimate prenup be to just not get married?
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Okay, I'm going to read these two chats, then we got some more stuff.
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Yes, a woman's past is very important to a man.
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If women were open about their past, honest about every aspect of it, and use some common
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sense, maybe they'd have a better chance of finding good partners and long-lasting relationships.
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And then we have Daniel W., if you can read this one.
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I have dealt with my children daily when I say, quote, when are mom and you going to live
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Happy is a state of mind, and it wanes and grows.
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Women are taught today to give up and classify everything as abuse.
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Yeah, this is a fantastic point that the super chatter Daniel brings up, which is that marriage
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It's about submission to God, and it's about growing a family.
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It's not about, it's never been about, you can have whole years, multiple years in a
02:05:20.840
marriage where you're miserable due to the conditions that you're in.
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And it's like, it's never been the point that you get married because of happiness or you
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That's why I don't think secularists can really make it in marriage and why they fail so often.
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Or the Christians who basically identify as being Christian but who are actually secularists
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as well is because they see it as a happiness index rather than as what it's supposed to
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be, which is a long-term commitment under God that you're not supposed to break the covenant.
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And even if you're miserable, you're supposed to work through that shit together.
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Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10, starting with you.
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I may not be a 10 to you or anyone else that you may meet, but I'm a 10 to someone, and
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What would you say that you are to most people?
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I'm not inside most people's heads, so I'm not going to answer that.
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Well, you're not inside anybody's head, but you just said...
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I'm not going to entertain this question because I feel like it's very degrading.
02:06:37.740
You just said to somebody you're a 10, so apparently you can read somebody's mind,
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Well, somebody's going to tell me that I'm a 10 to them.
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If you can read at least one person's mind that they're going to think you're a 10,
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The ones that I interact with, and if they don't think that I'm a 10, they don't need
02:07:13.260
So who are these people that are just randomly rating you a 10?
02:07:17.100
I'm just saying, but to some people, or a lot of people, or the ones that I interact
02:07:21.480
with, I am a 10, but it's not like a, hey baby, you're a 10.
02:07:27.500
I check all the boxes for a lot of people, and that's it.
02:07:46.680
I don't think that's the definition of degrading, but...
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So for me, I'm not going to engage with this anymore.
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Any preference at all when it comes to a man's height?
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So, speaking of grades, speaking of numerical ranking,
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you are making an attractiveness assessment on a man
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when it comes to your potential romantic partners
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But I'm not like you're an 8 because you're not 6'0".
02:09:30.880
but I'm not saying that I feel that way for that question.
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I'll just make it very, very quick, very brief.
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but if he had a choice to know that he was naked or not,
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this is like a pinpoint in your, in your lovely show.
02:10:37.480
like I, I think that I'm a tend to someone out there,
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All right, here, well, let's go around the table.
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I'm a 7, but my feelings, I think, is I'm a 10.
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you don't have to give yourself a precise rating,
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Maybe there's someone out there who thinks I'm a 10.
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I thought the last time you said you were a seven.
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but I think it's cap from most women who are like,
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we just wanted an honest assessment of what you think you are.
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Are you going to ask me if I like Donald Trump?
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When it comes to your disposition towards Donald Trump,
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Now there is only one right answer to this question.
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anyone can be any number they want in their head.
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and maybe you wouldn't even say this to his face,
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would you disagree with his assessment of himself?
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I'm not asking if it matters or it doesn't matter to you.
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would you disagree with his assessment of his own attractiveness?
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Because what he thinks in his mind does not matter to me.
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the question really is comes down to freedom or
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let's let's role play uh I'm a woman you're a man
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just like see whether you're interested first and
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looked at you at all I'm in the Trader Joe's you
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think I'm attractive um okay maybe I would like
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this or what are you what are you buying and then
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if you were like looking if you look like don't
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I'm buying cantaloupes you look don't touch me or
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don't talk to me sorry then I would just be like
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back off I would not I would not continue but if
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she's she's like oh hi um yeah let's role play the
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conversation um I want to say I'm not good at this
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because I'm not not a dude so I don't know what
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okay checkmate you lose okay um hi there what are you up
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to today I'm shopping at Trader Joe's all right then
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have a good day you don't seem interested so I would
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back off oh okay yeah okay seemed a little bit yeah
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that's how like 99% of women are gonna respond men face
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so much rejection that when they are just getting to the
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first date that is a huge milestone so I will say like
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100% it is way more difficult for men to date because women
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will be approached 10 times more than any man will ever
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even just get to the first date point that is really hard
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part about being a man you have to get rejected a lot that's
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that's what you have to do who faces more rejection men or
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women men okay so that wouldn't wouldn't you be able to
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make the argument that the sex that faces more rejection
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would mean that it's harder to date no I wouldn't say that
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so women have dating harder because they face less rejection
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than men no I'm not talking about rejection I'm saying
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that's part of dating is that not part of dating yeah but
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there are different ways that dating can be difficult I
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think rejection is the hard part for men and I think there
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are different things that are hard for women because
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what's what's hard what's hard for women I've just
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listed them I mean you you listed this this fear of
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violence but that's like abnormal that was like that's
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a pretty abnormal dating scenario huh it was one of my
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many other points okay okay who has an easier time getting
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laid men oh sorry women if they wanted to get laid a woman
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probably could okay now isn't that sort of kind of the first
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step towards dating no if you can't even definitely not the
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first step in dating well depends on who you ask but I mean I
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would argue for the vast majority of like let's exclude like
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religious people from this let's just look at kind of what
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secular dating looks like I would argue most adult
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relationships perhaps even for religious people maybe they're
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not super religious it's not let's date for three months and
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then have sex most people I would argue are having sex fairly
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early on in the courtship process so we're just talking about
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what most people do because how's that working out it's not
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working out very well sure I agree so I don't think they I
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don't think if it's the case for most men that it's hard to
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get a date get a relationship get sex it is hard but it's not and
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if it's easier wait what do you mean it's not as hard as it is
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for women yeah so I'm just repeating my point okay uh so if
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you stacked up the list of things that like a man would have to do
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in a relationship as opposed to things a woman would have to do
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in a relationship you would say like that more is on the man's
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side right um in dating um I think men have to prove themselves
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more so it's harder if men have to prove themselves wouldn't it stand to
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reason that dating is harder for men um I think it's harder for women right
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now and like our climate and now is it what's happening right now yes I just
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don't understand what makes it harder for women in this current culture that
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we live in which I will agree with you that the dating culture absolutely sucks
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right now and that I think there's a lot of problems going on with like
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feminism and honestly I feel like women are trying to more like compete with men
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during dates instead of actually being just the feminine woman that they're
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designed to be it's hard because most women are brainwashed and they're
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competing with men instead of being feminine but I don't think that that
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makes it harder for men because there are men that are still accepting that
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being brainwashed is hard no it is hard but I'm saying men have a harder time
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dating right now than women do because even a more masculine woman who isn't
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necessarily a super feminine girl and has more masculine traits she's still
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going to have an easier time getting a date with a man than a man is gonna have
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trying to get a date yes but that's not the goal like a woman could get a date
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with any guy and it doesn't it's just a waste of her time if he's a dud
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factually if you stacked it up though like but you can has more options to at
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least you can get there like most women can at least get to that point like
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there's there's men out there who can't even get a date and it's a decent
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portion of men because at most I would argue like most men are invisible to most
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women and that's why they seek my services oh my god that in there
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I don't think it's hard for men I'm not saying it's not hard for men especially
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I'm just saying it's harder for women so but it's hard for everyone if if being
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constantly rejected is not a big deal then why why women why don't women
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approach men more often because that's not our role to approach men it's not
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going to go well if I approach a man I'll be like hey he'd actually probably be
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very he's shocked most men would be super flattered I think I could easily
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get sex which is what happens to the approaching but I couldn't maintain a
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relationship because you approach just by virtue of you approaching I'm
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beginning the relationship taking on the masculine role that sets the tone but
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you can you can approach a man first off most women don't do cold approach most
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women aren't going to like do an overt approach they're gonna do like what you
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said oh I'm I made eye contact with him so that's me taking initiative which
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really isn't but um so uh where am I going with this um I think a woman could could
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approach a man and still like give him room to kind of take over and lead and
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still be feminine you don't need to like approach a dude and be like wanna fuck I
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think there is a way to show like dropping the hanky sort of thing you know right you're
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like on there and that's like how we I I actually think like if if a girl
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approached a guy the thing is though I what occurs to me is women would just
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approach the really hot dudes and actually probably wouldn't even approach
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like the guy the guys who are on their level because they're like well if I'm
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gonna take my shot I'm gonna take my shot with like a really attractive dude so
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perhaps in that scenario yeah you're just gonna get sex but if you actually
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approach a guy who's commensurate to your attractiveness I would actually argue
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that your chance of success is insanely high let me uh let me ask you a question
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if you don't mind you said that on the approach that women would be less
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successful than men due to the fact that that's the masculine role correct um long
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term um making a general statement yes I think there are individuals that I would
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work out for because it's like maybe that's what would work for them maybe
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there's like a masculine woman and like kind of a feminine dude as a dating
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coach do you think that that's a more masculine or feminine role which one
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which approaching being a dating coach um um uh hmm I don't know probably a
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masculine kind of thing yeah but that's not I'm not dating my job let me let me
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make sure that you are a dating coach is that correct I'm not I'm not I'm just
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interested in the subject and that's why I like to go I'm definitely open to
05:06:54.680
learning more about the subject I'm not saying I know everything just saying
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that's the topic interest interest me but I don't think there could be a
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really feminine woman I've encouraged anyone I'm definitely open to learning
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I don't I'm not saying I know everything I think there could be a really
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feminine woman who's teaching other women also how to embrace their
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femininity within dating hold on but you say in your Instagram bio DM me
05:07:13.320
dating for a free guide to dating you have a guide I'm I'm available but I'm yeah
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oh wait wait hang on back up back up hang on you mean you're available I'm like if
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someone DMs me that thing 24 guide I'll send them a guide is it okay is it a
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paid service do you do you get a page are you in a paid service of any kind I'm
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just I just want to like I'm just interested in the subject it's a free
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guide I'm not I'm thinking hopefully down the down the road I'll be really good
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at it but I'm not saying I'm a professor of dating right now so it's just
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free okay I'm not lying to anyone sure swindle anyone uh no I'm not well I'm
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not saying that but assuming for a second because you're interested in the topic
05:08:01.660
that you're gonna go pro do you think that that would be a more masculine or
05:08:06.360
feminine role and do you think that clients should move over towards men for
05:08:10.820
don't I don't really understand what you mean but I feel like having a career
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oh let me let me rephrase so that you do understand what I mean I want to be very
05:08:21.200
specific here assume for a second that you did enter into the role where people
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paid you for dating advice is that a role that you would ever accept if I was if I
05:08:32.320
felt like I was giving good advice and helping people yes sure would that be a
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more masculine or feminine role it would probably be a it could be both
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depending on the situation but maybe leaning more masculine I'm not saying that
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women are 100% feminine all the time I feel like women women can behave in
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math yeah I'm not beating you up about that I'm not saying that it's I'm just I'm just
05:08:54.980
trying to to understand would you think then that men going to a dating coach who
05:09:00.380
is a male would be better for them than going to a dating coach who is female I
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yeah I think men should probably go to a dude I'm I'm being trying to be available
05:09:10.060
for women here let me okay so just on the whole who's who's got harder when it
05:09:15.780
comes to dating just some questions for you have you ever approached a guy um no
05:09:21.880
never how many just curious how many boyfriends have you had I've had two two
05:09:28.280
boyfriends only two um have you had shorter term relationships no you know
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I've had a seven-year relationship and like a year when I was 18 okay um how did
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did they meet you in person did they slide into your dms how did you meet them in
05:09:47.440
person in person so they approached you okay and you've never approached a guy
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okay uh have you ever been rejected by a guy yes you have so how did you how were you in a
05:09:59.340
position to be rejected um at the end of my seven-year relationship oh well that's not what
05:10:05.000
I'm I'm talking about that is rejection for a woman if a man doesn't want to have exclusivity
05:10:10.420
with her we'll get married have children that's a breakup that's rejection when I'm thinking you
05:10:15.060
mind um I'm sorry I really don't mean to keep harping on this but I'm on your Instagram right
05:10:19.760
now and it literally says dating coach dating coaching
05:10:28.660
I just I just want to make sure oh the highlight yeah
05:10:33.600
are you that you're not a dating coach I haven't had any experience I would like to offer it
05:10:40.040
I'm I'm giving free advice okay all right okay I've never said I was a dating coach
05:10:46.360
I like an insurer I was like I'm studying to a PT and I'm I think I said I'm interested in
05:10:51.900
has a guy ever slid into your dms yes have you ever slid into a guy's dms no okay um has a guy
05:11:00.960
ever asked you out on the first date yes have you ever asked a guy out on the first date no of all
05:11:06.580
the times that you've kissed someone for for the first time did you go for the first kiss
05:11:11.780
or did the guy go for the first kiss the guy okay of the times um and you've never initiated
05:11:18.840
the first kiss okay um of all the times a guy has initiated the first kiss have you ever turned the
05:11:24.160
guy down of course yeah definitely okay um of all the times that or uh anything's been ended whether
05:11:33.260
short-term or long-term it sounds like you haven't done really any short-term dating even for three or
05:11:37.680
six months is that correct nothing like that so you've only been romantically involved with two
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okay uh of all the times you've of your two well you so you've only been had one breakup
05:11:58.560
i've had two breakups oh two breakups okay who ended it the guy or you the guy okay have you
05:12:07.020
ever made a guy wait for sex um yeah has a guy ever made you wait for sex no okay well i mean going off
05:12:18.120
your questions it seems like dating sounds like a little harder for men do you want to elaborate
05:12:24.600
okay you've never been rejected you've rejected men you've never had to go in for the first kiss
05:12:32.860
you've always just you've you've been very passive in your dating experiences that is what a woman does
05:12:39.760
right but so then we can assess well is it easier to be the one who has to be proactive or is it easier
05:12:47.720
to just be passive because i can give my my point of view on this as somebody who's been on both ends
05:12:54.360
of this because i'm out there on the content in the content game i've had girls dm me it's way
05:13:00.240
easier to just pick among the girls who like you and who are contacting you than you having to like
05:13:07.240
put yourself out there it's way fucking easier and i've been on both sides of that and i can tell you
05:13:12.880
it's way better to be you have denying you're a man of like higher status probably than most of the
05:13:20.020
guys who are well that's not even what i'm arguing i'm just saying i've had the easy feed i've had the
05:13:23.900
experience of women approaching me i've also been on the other side of that before i kind of came into
05:13:28.800
the i'm not saying i'm like crazy famous but and i don't even get i get less the dms than a 19 year
05:13:35.260
old college chick okay like an average college chick who's a nobody that wasn't on my list of things
05:13:41.300
hmm yes yeah but so in my own experience from having dealt with like women coming to me versus
05:13:49.780
me putting myself out there it's way fucking it's a way stronger position i shouldn't say strong it's
05:13:56.160
just a better position to be in to have people coming to you than the reverse and it's you you i mean
05:14:04.540
it's easy oh you like me cool it's so easy um that's that's an interesting point of view from you
05:14:13.700
yeah i think maybe some guys would enjoy you think hot hot women just throwing themselves at men you
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think they're gonna be like no i'd rather just chase women who are who are on the fence about me
05:14:26.840
i'd rather just i think because you have a bit more status like i don't think if you were like didn't
05:14:31.780
have a podcast and you weren't knowing you were just some dude off the street and you didn't have
05:14:35.020
any money oh no girls would dm me no girl and i yes i remember those days yes so what's your point
05:14:41.900
it's easier now that you've got that you actually have some value yeah but i can say from being on
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both sides of it yeah because you've never been on the side of yes i have i've just told you i've never
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i've i've been broken up with no no you've never been on this you've never experienced
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like having to be the one like pursuing you don't women don't really pursue women don't pursue
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precisely but i can speak as someone who's been pursued and who's done the pursuing it's way
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fucking better to be pursued i'm sure it is yeah but i don't really think that's like the hardest
05:15:18.020
thing in the world to to pursue a woman you get rejected well again that's very convenient it's so
05:15:23.500
convenient for you to say yes that's not our job to pursue our job it's just select but we can have
05:15:29.060
empathy for men who are the ones like it's it's it's not that hard i already preface it's not that
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hard but it's harder for men to get women than it is for a woman to get a man that's just like the
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basis of it which i think like if a woman does have some sort of interest in a man like yeah tell
05:15:50.340
it and be like i like like whatever it is but i know i agree it's not the woman's job to you know
05:15:56.460
initiate a date or seek after men you know we as women want to be pursued because i do agree if
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you're starting the relationship in that way then you're starting the relationship with the more
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masculine role and then you know not really allowing them to continue that does that make sense that's
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why it's easier for us right what you're saying right we don't have because we don't have to do all
05:16:15.500
these things so it is easier for us how about this i think it's hard to select from if i had
05:16:19.800
like heaps of dudes coming at me all the time you're like oh i'd have to be like oh which one
05:16:23.720
is like poor you hot men just want to buy you drinks they don't want to marry you dinner they don't
05:16:29.080
want to have sex with you they just want i don't want to have sex i don't want to have sex okay but
05:16:33.800
there's oh it's fine it's not the same it's fine they want to wait three dates like i have to
05:16:41.540
select which guy is just trying to fuck me and which one wants to marry me that's right you can
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have very good but that's not necessarily harder than the men's i think it's hard to be rejected
05:16:52.960
i think that sucks but i don't think it's i don't think it's the hardest thing in the world i think
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well there's more to it than just being rejected i think being rejected is a learning thing like
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make it be like oh you know what i kind of i kind of agree with you insofar as i actually think
05:17:11.460
one of the reasons why men strive and achieve is because of rejection women reject them they're
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like shit let me start let me hit the gym let me go build a business let me go achieve let me
05:17:27.360
let me get status yes so uh and it's good in the sense of like being rejected can romantically
05:17:36.860
can absolutely light a fire under your ass so many men have absolutely made massive transformations
05:17:43.580
they hit the gym they get ripped they start a business because they got because they got burned
05:17:49.500
because they got rejected would they have that if they weren't rejected if they would just got a girl
05:17:54.340
and it's like oh hey it doesn't it doesn't diminish would he ever have that fire it doesn't diminish
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the degree that it sucks to be rejected and it's just it's just objectively more difficult to be the
05:18:04.000
pursuer achieved that happiness and level of success so what is this like the silver lining like
05:18:11.400
yeah you got like absolute brutally rejected by a bunch of women but you know yes i think if a man
05:18:18.220
doesn't provide value he shouldn't be selected so then doesn't mean it's not what he's learned he's
05:18:24.900
like oh i'm not doing anything that's that's valuable to the women because i'm because she's
05:18:28.740
saying no i'm gonna go and work on myself it doesn't mean that it's not harder it's it can still
05:18:34.100
be harder and there can also be benefits of rejection isn't meant to be easy and like sure
05:18:39.340
yeah yeah would you rather pursue or select though um i would always prefer to be a woman
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so i would why why would you rather select because that's what i'm born to do
05:18:52.940
but it's some lady gaga song here but suppose like you were suppose you weren't deciding like
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between being a man or a woman regardless like just take that out of the equation like would you
05:19:07.040
rather pursue or select um select because it's easier no because um i don't know i can't really put
05:19:16.720
myself in a man's mind i don't really know what it's actually like to be a man so i guess that does
05:19:22.760
bias me a lot i'm just glad my husband got uh rejected so much because i found him so
05:19:31.680
i mean if i can just bring it to a bit of a niche scenario here too uh i would actually argue women
05:19:39.200
women who have certain uh character claws or bender the offender donated 100 dollars
05:19:49.320
so she is basically complaining about play the game of life on easy mode do you want to play on
05:19:55.740
hard mode or something i don't want to be a man i'm very happy that i'm a woman i think it's very
05:20:01.060
hard overall i think overall it is harder to be a man than to be a woman does that extend to dating
05:20:09.380
are you mean overall to you mean in life too i mean that's kind of based in life it is way harder
05:20:15.940
to be a man yeah to be a woman oh okay all right next disagreement let's let's go through all of
05:20:21.540
these let's go through all these you also said oh okay this is going to be a contentious one the
05:20:25.920
women are going to turn well they probably did um you say you support plastic surgery to a point
05:20:31.340
in makeup so i've stated previously on the podcast that i'm a i'm a natural body supremacist i'm not a fan
05:20:37.840
of makeup i'm not a fan of cosmetic surgery plastic surgery so lip fillers breast implants lipo
05:20:44.900
bbls uh labia labiaplasty that's a huge one um i think women are
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okay i'll give the scenarios right i'd prefer a woman with flat boobs than big fake titties i'd prefer
05:21:00.140
a woman with a little belly fat than lipo belly i prefer a woman with a small upper lip than lip filler
05:21:05.100
i'd prefer a woman with a small bum over the bbl which looks ridiculous and i'd prefer
05:21:16.040
okay cool that's your preference and also i prefer minimal or no makeup over makeup all right have you
05:21:25.200
heard of um is it david buff who's that or i've heard the name is an author or something he's an
05:21:31.340
author i'm pretty sure he talked about psych um uh if you want to look it up he wrote a really
05:21:37.160
important book about about plastic surgery no how men select women like what what features they look
05:21:43.980
they look for you don't know who david buff is oh so here i'm prepared to agree with you that
05:21:49.560
generally speaking men find large breasts attractive men find large butts attractive my position though
05:21:57.500
is it and i think a lot of men would agree with me on this it ought to be natural and you can't just
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because you're you're trying to basically fraud and trick us and you've pulled this veneer over you
05:22:11.660
doesn't mean that that's how you actually look i think and i think i think bbls look ridiculous i
05:22:16.400
don't think bbls look good either i agree okay i think it's i think it's gone a bit crazy i think i
05:22:20.760
definitely think it's you have plastic surgery correct yes okay lip filler fake tits i don't want to
05:22:26.860
talk about specifically what let's just let's stick to the argument um but i would say that if all
05:22:34.380
women stop doing it yeah i think it would be fine i just think everyone is women are competing to be
05:22:40.360
really pretty so it's and i and i will say i've been an average looking girl and i've been a pretty
05:22:47.180
looking girl and it's life is a lot easier as a pretty girl and i will say men treat me a lot nicer
05:22:55.580
because because i'm pretty people treat me a lot nicer because i'm pretty well was that do you are
05:23:00.980
because you have fake tits right so is that what you're talking about i don't want to talk about
05:23:05.020
specifically i will say that there was there's definitely been a bit of a glow up and i have
05:23:11.400
experienced life on both ends and it's i appreciate i kind of see appreciate men a bit more
05:23:19.220
because they open doors for me they're they're very nice but beforehand it was kind of like i wasn't
05:23:25.460
even looked at sure pretty privileged is a thing but i mean at the end of the day natural beauty i
05:23:30.220
think will always precede fake beauty because i think the beauty standards one like women are
05:23:35.480
constantly competing with other women i don't think that women are going through these procedures for
05:23:40.220
men but they've been told that getting lip fillers they've been told that getting you know a boob job
05:23:46.480
is going to attract more men which sure objectively you know bigger boobs might attract more men but
05:23:52.000
also are they attracted to that or they attracted to your personality so i don't know just contradict
05:23:56.400
yourself though and she just say that they're not going for they're not going for these procedures
05:24:02.240
to attract men and then the next breath you said sure they're doing this because it attracts men
05:24:07.400
i will say like lip fillers if you're getting botox or fillers in your face bbl something that's
05:24:13.140
way beyond a natural appearance then yes they will not be physically attracted to that but
05:24:21.120
contrast to that if you look at society now versus go back 30 some years i think we live in this hyper
05:24:27.860
pornified society to where that kind of unattainable beauty standard is something that's being put in front
05:24:34.620
in the media more than natural beauty yeah sure but it's still to attract men
05:24:40.400
i've honestly like women compete with women more for beauty i agree yeah but why what are they what
05:24:49.120
are they competing for just to be the prettiest one like genuinely so that they can so that they can
05:24:55.140
get what they're self-security like it's self-reassurance are you guys just it's low
05:25:01.240
women have such low self-esteem that they're doing it for themselves and they're doing it for other
05:25:06.540
women which i know sounds crazy but it does sound so crazy it sounds insane there's no way there's no
05:25:12.960
way that women are getting fake boobs to compete with other women they're getting fake boobs so that
05:25:17.620
they don't know i'm talking about like i'm talking about fillers in their face they're getting botox
05:25:21.780
they're getting lip fillers they're not getting that for men they're getting that because they're
05:25:26.020
competing with other women if they see another woman or their friend starting to get wrinkles
05:25:28.780
they're going to get botox because they don't want wrinkles can we just call it for what it's mental
05:25:32.580
illness was it can we just say it's mental illness wait oh she agrees i agree with you
05:25:38.840
oh okay all right based lexi well hey i'm i agree with you based based lexi
05:25:45.020
yeah i mean what is it sure that they're doing it for for male attention honestly i've really
05:25:51.600
i'm not buying into that we just do it because women like to compete with each other for no
05:25:56.660
particularly good reason the the entire competition hierarchy between women seems to be based along
05:26:03.380
the lines of how much male attention from the highest status men they can get that's what beauty
05:26:07.820
standards are about but that's what all the propaganda women are creating unrealistic beauty
05:26:13.400
standards where women are continuously getting more procedures done in this unrealistic way to
05:26:19.060
where it's changing the standard but women are the one that are making that standard where men
05:26:22.960
continuously are saying that they're more attracted to natural women and i get a lot of girls that are
05:26:28.060
like oh my god i want my body done just like hers i want it done just like hers i'm showing her
05:26:32.920
i'm surged exactly what do you what do you have women are brainwashed what do you mean wait what
05:26:38.500
what what you huh wait what what are you saying ryan oh what surgeries do you have i mean i know you
05:26:47.920
have fake yeah that's it but like um that's it you don't have anything else no oh i thought you're
05:26:57.240
talking about yourself i don't even wear makeup okay you got fake lashes in come on hey that's it and i
05:27:02.520
don't have like nothing else my eyebrows my face do you have eyebrow tattoo uh microbladed yeah
05:27:08.460
that's it you have the eyebrow tattoo i don't have like foundation on nothing so cool um wait so
05:27:17.000
previous point yeah let's go back yeah the um indra thinks women do it like for male attention but i
05:27:24.180
feel like i agree with it's probably both and saying it's probably it is a competition it could be a bit
05:27:29.960
of both but speaking from like at least a personal point i mean i can't speak for all women but i mean
05:27:35.340
i know how my insecurities can kind of like go a little bit deeper than that and then want me to
05:27:41.060
change certain things but it's not necessarily for men i mean if you but let's assume for a second let's
05:27:46.500
just buy into this for a second let's assume that your insecurities are because you think that the
05:27:50.960
women who are around you are far more beautiful and plentiful than you are if suddenly the by the next
05:27:56.860
day nothing changed about you but you had all the male attention would all those bitches be jealous
05:28:02.160
and would your insecurities suddenly be alleviated well personally for myself i like i have an image
05:28:10.620
that i set for myself and it doesn't matter like the male attention or female attention that i get as
05:28:16.740
long as i'm not seeing that for myself i have to be satisfied with myself not yeah but how would you
05:28:22.620
know what the standard was for yourself it's a standard if it was not for how many men gave you
05:28:30.380
attention wouldn't that inform your standard for you um not necessarily it's for me it's a standard
05:28:37.140
that i set for myself it's like a compilation of what i aspire to be in a sense how i aspire to look
05:28:43.420
just for myself but i mean i even i have a boyfriend and i like he could tell me i'm pretty a thousand
05:28:50.840
times but i would still want to change certain things about myself not necessarily to like
05:28:55.100
appease him to appease other men but just so i mean that's one guy but what if it was all the guys
05:29:00.720
all the guys were teasing towards you i've had men tell me no don't get lip fillers i'd rather you not
05:29:07.840
get botox not i have absolutely no work done at all and i've had men that have told me don't get any
05:29:13.540
of these things done but then i've had women oh you should get half a syringe with me come with me to
05:29:17.600
the meds bar just get a couple units of botox that will help with your fine lines and wrinkles
05:29:21.740
to where women are encouraging other women to get these cosmetic surgeries and like these small
05:29:27.920
plastics because men are more attracted to natural women so that's so wait so wait you think they're
05:29:35.220
sabotaging you i mean to an extent i mean women are constantly just attracted to getting these kinds
05:29:41.680
of procedures and i've experienced men not wanting me to get any of that done which i am on board with
05:29:47.560
i'm like i don't want to get any of that done yeah so you didn't get any of it done right right but
05:29:51.340
that's what i'm saying so then the assumption there is that you don't get it all done because
05:29:55.080
you get more male attention if it's not done that's the assumption so then why are women then why are
05:30:01.020
you saying that women are getting all of these procedures done for male attention if at the end of
05:30:04.540
the day well not every woman's going to be in your situation take for instance her uh not dating
05:30:08.880
coach friend over here who said she's been on both sides of the spectrum my assumption here is
05:30:13.700
that before she was on the side of the spectrum where she was perceived as quote hot she this was
05:30:19.460
pre-boob job cosmetic surgery things like this am i wrong are you asking me life yeah life was easier
05:30:26.760
as a pretty girl yeah and that was post having stuff done right but yeah then so then so then this
05:30:36.040
would go to my point again that yes it is possible that you can have a natural beauty and so
05:30:41.660
living on this court donated 100 saying women compete because of men is like the girls point
05:30:48.300
earlier about men competing amongst each other for women andrew is it just a functional difference
05:30:54.340
between these yes because women don't value power the same way that men do and that was what the
05:31:00.960
point was that we were addressing earlier was whether or not men will compete for status for
05:31:06.000
status's sake and they will women seem to be less inclined to do this rather they seem hillage
05:31:12.040
donated 100 a 100 naturally attractive female that doesn't care for the beauty standards of these
05:31:19.540
days and doesn't compare herself to other females or seeking male attention are the holy grail of women
05:31:25.540
right and i would agree with this so kind of back to this point which is to say that not every woman's
05:31:32.720
going to be a quote natural beauty so it's easy to say well naturally beautiful men are more attracted
05:31:39.880
to me etc etc whereas on the other side of the spectrum you have a gal here who says well i was on
05:31:44.800
that side where my natural beauty sucked and nobody liked it until i had these cosmetic enhancements
05:31:49.900
it still seems like it's competition for men on both sides to be honest with you that's what it
05:31:56.080
looks like from my perspective i mean i won't say there's no competition with men at all like i'm not
05:32:02.760
going to say it's like zero percent competition with men because that is a factor with attractive
05:32:06.560
in general we got killer killer of cereal donated 100 thank you everybody for all the reach a certain
05:32:12.380
age the amount of work done doesn't keep up with the rest of your aging body it makes you look
05:32:17.860
physically ill plastic women competing for the crypt keeper brian i'm a life guy i'm a life guy what
05:32:25.080
does that mean i'm a life can i make a point like the board game life the board competing for the crypt
05:32:30.780
keeper let me just read one of these chats that's about to come in and i'll have you come in uh we
05:32:35.480
have johnny crypto we all have to compete for what we want in life men compete against men for women
05:32:42.620
women have to compete with women for men if you can wear makeup i can wear shoe lifts thoughts from the
05:32:47.960
ladies uh really quick on let's do shoe lifts and toupees shoe lifts and toupees yay or yeah you're fine
05:32:54.720
with a toupee yeah wouldn't feel a little little misled okay um i think women uh change their
05:33:01.300
physical appearance whereas men lie about their status and success so is that like equal like one
05:33:06.460
to one fair like fair game right they lie different ways like if a woman has fake titties he can lie about
05:33:11.240
his job that's an interesting one um i mean he can lie but and it's a woman should try to get the truth
05:33:21.280
i guess like i've been lying to any about who i am what i've done so yeah but don't men uh tend to
05:33:29.600
elevate physical appearance more so than women do although i mean i've had differing takes on this but
05:33:35.600
whereas a woman might be more attracted to a guy because of his success or career or status or ambition
05:33:42.180
so if if women lie about the predominant thing that makes them attractive to men would it not be fair
05:33:47.700
to say that men should or could or ought to lie about the predominant thing that that women find
05:33:54.340
attractive in men i see what you mean it's in there's an inconsistency there um i think it's
05:33:59.340
harder for men to keep up the lie though men can't really keep up the lie and it's a little different
05:34:05.780
it's not a one-to-one fair comparison but um oh to uh just around the table on this shoe lifts and
05:34:13.800
toupee what is that a toupee it's like a hair piece so like they're bald but they like have hair
05:34:20.280
like a hair it's like a wig it's a wig and i'm like answering like yay or nay like would you kind of
05:34:26.080
feel a little like oh because maybe you like a guy with a full head of hair and you'd be like
05:34:30.720
and then he like takes it off after you fuck and you're like wait hold on i thought you had a full head
05:34:36.160
of hair go ahead lexi you got this yay you're oh you've you're down with the toupee sure okay all
05:34:47.400
right lexi thank you for contributing that was beautiful i can say i can say toupee yes shoe lifts
05:34:52.980
no against the shoe lifts against the fine with the toupee that's an interesting one what about you
05:34:58.960
neither uh and i'm not cool um because number one genetics like i wouldn't want my son to have
05:35:05.060
to go through that and then have to go through the rejection of it right of right and then being
05:35:09.860
short genetics again short men or now couldn't we make i'm sorry now if we don't know what a woman's
05:35:16.960
face actually looks like and her body looks like and she's gotten all these plastic surgeries to change
05:35:23.380
how she appears wouldn't that have an impact on how our children end up appearing yes yes so well
05:35:30.400
oh interesting okay for her personally yeah yeah yeah what about you um toupee yeah i think either is
05:35:38.640
fine fine you wouldn't you know you date a guy and after you fuck he takes his toupee off nothing
05:35:45.600
i mean i might be a little caught off guard you know like you're laying there in bed you're laying
05:35:51.320
there in bed you it was like the best sex ever and he just like he comes back from the bathroom and
05:35:56.840
like throws it at you like a dead rat be a little caught off guard i'm ordering a plan b like
05:36:03.240
oh shit like no organ toupee yeah see to your point i'm all natural i would personally like if i'm
05:36:14.320
married and they need a toupee cool we're already married but if it's like yes in the dating scene
05:36:19.540
and and they have a toupee yeah i'm sorry hold on guys yes this hair is natural and i'd like my
05:36:26.720
kids to also have a head okay all right um okay so wait okay so you said okay but you wanted to
05:36:35.760
disagree with me so like you say you support plastic surgery to a point and makeup and i don't so let's
05:36:44.820
argue oh did we already just argue about that i don't think so really i think it's okay to enhance
05:36:50.660
natural features i will yeah and there are obvious changes that give you a certain advantage in the
05:36:59.460
dating scenario situation and i think that it has been taken to excess for a lot of people which
05:37:07.880
isn't really appealing to men it's become a different more of a like it's become a market really
05:37:14.000
like there's people some the um makeup or the plastic surgeons are making money okay so my
05:37:19.380
position on plastic surgery and makeup is that it's a facade it's not true it's not how you actually
05:37:24.300
look uh i think it's a lie it's a bamboozle yeah it's paint but so you think no makeup at all i don't
05:37:32.780
mind a little like uh eyeliner maybe but like i prefer no makeup who do you think is the most beautiful
05:37:38.580
woman in the world i mean it's very hard to say for you i i don't really have like celebrity crushes
05:37:46.340
like i don't i don't think i could all right well i mean i've previously said that uh a woman who i
05:37:52.660
think is very attractive i don't know i don't think she's the most beautiful woman i've ever seen but a
05:37:58.160
woman who i think is very attractive is oh i'm blanking on her name chat knows it better than me
05:38:02.800
uh oh my god what's that girl from smallville oh the asian one the yeah the asian girl half asian
05:38:09.680
girl kristen krueck thank you i think i don't know if she's the most beautiful woman i've probably seen
05:38:15.180
more attractive women than her i think she's very attractive yeah she's really pretty yeah um i guess
05:38:23.140
what i'm trying to make is that i think men seek beauty beauty can be inspiring and i don't i think
05:38:29.260
maybe it's nice to sort of try and be a little bit prettier like i'm not against women like up
05:38:35.800
until a point until it's like absolute lies and bullshit it's nice it i think men like beautiful
05:38:43.000
women and i think as long as i think that's nothing wrong with that i mean i want to ask the chat this
05:38:48.580
nick if you can pull up the chat well okay i know guys i know she's 41 now but i'm talking you know when
05:38:54.740
and she's a little younger and i don't think she got married or had children so she's an old she maybe
05:38:59.120
hey kristen krueck i'm i'm available i hope she froze her eggs uh okay so chat do you prefer women
05:39:08.700
with plastic surgery or without so with plastic surgery without with without with without i personally
05:39:27.040
killy donated one hundred dollars question at what point do you think it is a lie
05:39:37.160
at what point do you think it is a lie like how much plastic that's a lot of that's a lot of without
05:39:43.660
that's a lot i just want to make a point and i'm probably going to offend a lot of men but i think
05:39:49.060
the pool of men which you take these surveys from are not the happiest of men with women so you think
05:39:55.740
well-adjusted happy men want a woman who's pumped full of chemicals and has and spending tens of
05:40:01.540
thousands of dollars on surgeries and is what is potentially what i'm trying to say your but your
05:40:07.420
argument is well your pool of men are are uh unhappy what's your um what's your evidence for that
05:40:13.880
i think um the men who watch this show don't seem like they seem like they're struggling i don't think
05:40:20.720
a man who is really your evidence is your feelings um wait i'm making assumptions i'm making a lot of
05:40:27.340
but hold on your feeling your your evidence is i think if we tested it i could be true it could be
05:40:32.460
let's just assume it out like let's assume what you're saying is true though wouldn't a man who's
05:40:38.040
really struggling with dating be more willing to accept a woman who's undergone plastic surgery
05:40:46.020
because for a man to say for a man to say well i want to exclude this subset of women excludes them
05:40:54.380
as potential partners so that means they're demonstrating a higher level of selectivity excuse
05:40:59.460
me so what couldn't you make the argument that if a man's struggling he has he's in less of a
05:41:04.480
position to be sexually selective with women i would make the point that they've probably been
05:41:09.720
through so much rejection that they want to reject themselves to make themselves feel better that's a
05:41:15.000
reach um so they're they're just conveniently only rejecting the women with fake tits and bbls is
05:41:21.840
that no i'm not saying that i'm saying that yeah maybe it feels nice i don't know chat are you guys
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just traumatized and and is it the trauma that you is that why yeah i mean where did you come up with
05:41:34.840
this where did you where where are you coming up with it like other than i just think this because
05:41:39.720
i feel this way where are you coming up with this stuff it's just an assumption i'm making what if i
05:41:44.820
told you that i actually surveyed my viewers and they're all six three giga chads with massive peens
05:41:51.560
and they're super rich and they have a bunch of crypto and they're super charismatic and funny
05:41:56.560
and they're super dope and and they're the happiest from anywhere and none of them have any stds and
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they're great people from a solid household like one in the chat if that's you one in the chat if
05:42:10.600
that's you just saying like i think we're gonna see a lot of ones in the chat here of all these men
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who are like these six three giga chads look at all these fucking legends in the chat well look
05:42:28.280
yeah there you go whatever brian says all right i'm proven wrong there you go they didn't get all
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of their stats from an outback steakhouse brian so there's that yeah but so okay hold on so look
05:42:43.800
i'm gonna here's a hot take i'm when i run for mayor of santa barbara morgan are you going to be
05:42:52.020
my political advisor for my campaign you know what i will be your political advisor my and maybe um
05:42:58.480
chief of staff maybe there we go yep yeah when i run for mayor of santa barbara i'm going to outlaw
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plastic surgery in the county oh no no my mayor okay sorry city of santa barbara outlawed what do
05:43:13.040
you think about that i think that's you know outlawed i don't really banned yeah that'd be great for
05:43:20.580
like because it'd be all natural women and they all probably feel a lot comfortable check check this
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out that's nice plastic surgeons straight to jail straight to jail straight to jail um
05:43:31.840
what if someone gets in like a horrific car accident that's okay that's okay so they can
05:43:38.220
yeah we're we're we're we're not when we're oh my god i'm starting sorry uh so when we're talking
05:43:46.600
about cosmetic surgery it's like purely cosmetic yeah they're like yeah yeah it's not okay if you've
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had severe burns or an injury disease and that's fine or what if you're born with like disfiguration
05:43:59.000
like like a cleft lip yeah that's okay that's okay but if you want to implant triple f titties
05:44:09.000
sorry i think that's if you get voted in you should make your own utopia that's good luck good luck to
05:44:14.160
you yeah i'm people in the chat are saying that's anti-freedom when did i ever say i believed in
05:44:19.960
democracy i'm a democracy disrespecter i believe in an authoritarian no i'm an authoritarian yes
05:44:27.860
i'm gonna seize the reins of power and i'm just gonna change everything yeah i'm sure a lot of
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men it'll be a dictatorship it'll be great um big labias tiny titties perfect i love it thank you
05:44:43.360
sign me up sign me up but okay what so what do we disagree on here on the on the plastic surgery
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thing i don't know i feel like it's been beaten to death is there another okay i'll just yeah we'll
05:44:55.620
move on i'll just say i have a speech i want to give meg what i see is an assault against the physical
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and mental health of our mothers sisters daughters girlfriends wives and all women the cosmetic
05:45:13.800
industry it's a nearly half a trillion dollar global industry as men we are protectors and that
05:45:20.620
extends beyond just immediate physical threats but threats of body and mind my view is that plastic
05:45:27.520
surgery and cosmetic use is a threat to body and the bombardment of advertisement aimed at making
05:45:34.820
women feel less than if they don't wear this much makeup or get this bullshit procedure is an attack
05:45:41.220
on their psyche and their physical and mental health so we as men as obvious protectors we have a duty to
05:45:49.500
protect women and the duty to let women know they're beautiful and attractive and sexy without
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any of that bullshit plastic that's lovely that's really nice you're welcome you're welcome big labia
05:46:02.220
matter hashtag hashtag big labia matter okay all right moving on to the next thing oh my god sorry guys
05:46:08.640
before you before you move on before you move on yeah yeah because i don't know if i'll ever get the
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opportunity to say this again on this show so i'll do it in the best voice that i possibly can
05:46:18.080
uh-oh shut up meg what i just i just have always wanted to say that and the opportunity came up
05:46:26.940
so i was able to say it family guy appreciate it all right we've done how to meg on this show before
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i'm gonna read this really quick blondie thinks it's harder because they see high value men all the time
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1950s women weren't dming sinatra yeah hypergamy has been gained 99 of women have always been with
05:46:44.780
simple men thank you uh olympia marketing for your super chat really appreciate it man um oh we have
05:46:52.200
truth bomb donated 100 i will say i'm very sad sitting on my eight figure net worth i use this show for a
05:47:00.500
good laugh it was a nice thought though christ is king wow that's beautiful truth bomb thank you
05:47:07.780
sitting eight figure net worth oh was it was it doge was it doge or was it shiba inu what was it
05:47:15.880
truth bomb tell us okay and then we have jay ekin it's been said before men fall in love with looks
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that's why women wear makeup women fall in love with words that's why men lie yes oh that's poetic
05:47:29.820
shakespeare over here thank you there let me read this other chat here that we have from
05:47:35.140
we got stochastic decay hashtag brown alex 2024 i was born in france so does that preclude me from
05:47:42.640
running for president am i precluded well it depends did you have one naturalized parent
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well so i i have a u.s citizenship my mom's a u.s citizen it doesn't matter if you have u.s
05:47:55.420
citizenship did one of your parents have u.s citizenship yeah my mom
05:47:59.200
well then yeah you're not precluded oh i thought you had to be born on u.s soil or something
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you were born in france no that's you have to oh my god you have to be born to well i mean if that
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was the case like then soldiers overseas would have all kinds well look in any case it really is
05:48:19.200
irrelevant because i'm gonna stage a coup d'etat so who cares about the constitution or whatever
05:48:24.840
it's just gonna be a coup d'etat i'll just fucking like i said we'll we'll seize the reins of power
05:48:30.360
by force if necessary i mean you know so by the way that's not i'm for the fucking doj i'm that's a
05:48:39.160
joke okay i'm hearing a lot of president atlas over here right now there we go uh pepe silva brian
05:48:45.420
shave your beard and show that weak jawline from the dad bod admit your beard grooming is the man's
05:48:51.260
version of makeup love the podcast but god call out hypocrisy when i see it look i mean you uh i have
05:49:00.440
photos of me on my instagram without the beard i've got videos of me dating back 10 years without the
05:49:06.880
beard the beard's pretty new in uh so uh i'm not i feel like in that scenario i'm not really hiding
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anything but um i do have the dad bod that's for sure i'm working on it i'm trying to lose it trying
05:49:20.220
to lose it and i don't think the beard to makeup comparison is really that fair though i don't think
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that's a fair comparison to make because and arguably like i've made this argument before if what we're
05:49:36.400
judging on physical attractiveness i would argue the the top 50 of your face is what's going to be
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deemed like is what's going to be make or break in terms of your physical attractiveness as compared
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to the bottom 50 of your face so uh well also considering that facial hair on men is natural
05:49:56.080
makeup isn't right it's hair is natural whereas makeup is paint so so yeah okay let's see what else
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oh we were what were we getting into we were uh was that wait i was reading a chat holy shit i got
05:50:11.560
lost here uh at what point do you think this is a lie that was from hilly jr i think we did that
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okay we have women are better than men at child rearing i don't think i've actually argued that maybe
05:50:26.200
andrew did i had someone say i don't know if it's grid grid one motorsports or i haven't seen him at
05:50:32.440
all but um yeah someone did someone say that do you want to argue about that or no i would well okay
05:50:39.440
the only thing i have to say on this is that when you look at single mothers versus single fathers
05:50:44.180
children coming from single father households tend to fare better so better how less their outcomes
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their outcomes in life are better they do better from educational standpoints they do better from
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less prison sentences they do better outcome based if they're raised by a single father versus a single
05:51:07.720
mother um from what age did they have their mother at the start well no we're talking we're talking
05:51:13.320
very young children like how old yeah even even down to infants so a single father looking after a
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baby is rate is has better outcomes than a than a single mother looking after it just on average
05:51:28.800
on average and have these studies been showing like when they're adults like how well yeah well
05:51:34.480
that's like that's what they're doing right is they're following they're following these children
05:51:38.100
how long is the study yeah i'm trying to explain it okay so they're following these children from
05:51:44.160
infancy into adulthood and they're looking at the outcomes some of them are 30 plus years
05:51:50.620
but it used to be that feminists would make the argument so i can give you an argument for yourself if
05:51:56.420
you want one but what feminists used to argue is that well that's because there's a whole hell of a lot
05:52:02.420
more men who are in the custody of a single mom but that has changed over the years now there's a lot
05:52:10.240
more men who are getting custody of their children than there used to be and we still see similar
05:52:14.720
outcomes so yeah that's what that's what brian is alluding to is it just one study well okay so no
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it's a multitude of studies there's even been meta-analysis over this i really like how what
05:52:27.220
what period of time because this is well it depends on what you're referencing specifically but
05:52:32.460
it's not very difficult go oh andrew i was just gonna say let's i think the easiest way to tackle
05:52:38.460
this is just look at criminality so yeah i was well i was just gonna bring that up it's not very
05:52:44.040
difficult um if you if you judge on outcomes just on education and criminality what are other things
05:52:51.040
that you would be looking for as markers what's happening nothing nothing nothing i i'm really
05:52:58.300
curious about these this the studies because it's really hard to do a study for that long
05:53:04.480
um i've never heard of any studies that have yeah well i mean have you looked for them and have been
05:53:09.720
shown validity have you yeah what are they called who did it well give me a second and i can pull them
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all up for you but what would be the point of doing that hang on what would be the point of doing
05:53:21.120
that when you can't access stop stop talking and let me finish what would be the point of doing that
05:53:28.100
if you have no reference point the point of doing what giving you a study that you can't reference right
05:53:35.800
now and i you said you have a study i'm asking you what yeah i know but what would i do with it do
05:53:43.300
you want me to fedex it to you like what do you what how would that help you right now even if i
05:53:48.400
provided the data for you um if you're going to engage in this you can say you can say listen
05:53:53.780
i don't know of any of these studies and that's fine to do right you can you can hang on stop stop
05:54:00.380
let me finish and then i'll let you talk just let me finish what i'm saying okay okay you can say i
05:54:05.760
don't have the information on this and that's fine there's not there's not a problem with that or you
05:54:10.780
can say i have now i've not read the data that's fine too but you know at least give some kind of
05:54:17.520
logical argument back me just citing a study to you which i can do i can pull up the data for you
05:54:22.840
but what good does that do you in your position you can't look at it
05:54:26.520
i can look at it later okay well then i'll send it over later would you like the references now
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yeah i mean this is not uh this is not something okay we'll pull them up sure and i think and i
05:54:44.200
think one let me ask you a question do you think in a two-parent household fathers tend to have the
05:54:49.360
role of disciplinarian yes okay and mothers tend to what nurture okay so perhaps it might be the case
05:54:58.940
in a single mother household a mother might be more likely to find this um all the references are
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actually right here but you can also reference rachel wilson's sub stack there's 45 years of
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data this is what it's called disproving the myth that husbands are the abusers
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though we can start with that included in that sub stack are multiple studies including a meta
05:55:20.460
analysis which followed children uh and they were looking at the outcomes over a multitude of years
05:55:27.540
you can also find an easy reference point which guides all these studies from medium medium did this as
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well and showed how the outcomes for males uh coming from these single parent homes were better
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than females now medium itself is an article you can reject but they do cite the and the data in the
05:55:49.020
actual article here let's let's not get too much into the weeds but so if there was evidence statistics
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were to back up for example that children coming from single father households as compared to single
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mother households if the data showed that women were far likely to get into sex
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hillage donated 100 a father figure instills respect in a child women instill emotions and care
05:56:16.280
question for the panel are men necessary in a relationship if not why yes going around the
05:56:24.920
table real quick are men necessary in a relationship yes gustavo oh yeah absolutely yeah yes and i've
05:56:32.340
had this personal personal story on on this myself okay yeah nuclear families everything yes i agree
05:56:40.500
so if there was a stat or study that showed that children growing up in single father households as
05:56:47.680
compared to single mother households that the children were less likely to get involved in sex work
05:56:52.780
or less likely to become criminals would you would that be convincing for you i mean
05:57:00.580
it would change my entire worldview because i traditionally a mother is the best a man can't be a better
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mother than a woman what i think a child needs a mother and a father and you're saying that i think
05:57:19.740
children need a mother at the very beginning of their life up until like very much more than a father
05:57:27.180
at least until eight especially why till eight specifically um i think that's probably when they start to
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go out into the world a little bit and sort of start to break away from their mother
05:57:41.080
is that eight i mean it's gradually their whole entire life but elementary school i was fucking
05:57:47.840
rebelling it's crazy yeah well i mean it's just it's weird like i understand your thought process
05:57:53.620
of saying infants who are being breastfed they need to have their mother at least for the you know
05:57:58.500
first what um you know 18 months or whatever it is that you're breastfeeding the kid um but outside of
05:58:05.920
this external to that what do they need the mom for exactly it's the love you need the love of your
05:58:12.780
mother yeah but you can get the love of your father it's not the same love wow yeah no i get it
05:58:18.560
but we're just talking in what's optimal right so i'm saying i agree with you that mommy and daddy at
05:58:24.600
home is the best scenario there's no if ands or buts about it but if you had to choose between a single
05:58:29.820
parent household it the if the preference is man or woman that's what the question is
05:58:35.820
so i can i can i add something to this sure okay so i had a my daughter's 18 so for 14 years she i was
05:58:45.800
a single parent and i was not doing very good with her because i i was the only one working and um the
05:58:51.480
only thing i could provide was emotion yeah um and i tried discipline but girl and girl it's discipline
05:58:58.080
is like hard maybe even for a boy it'd be hard for a mother to a son uh when i met my husband uh he
05:59:05.040
came in and brought that stability into the household the discipline and the other half of
05:59:11.100
what i was missing and now my daughter through you know working with her and all that now she's that's
05:59:16.500
great that's wonderful i think that that's like a child needs a man a father and a mother yeah
05:59:21.640
definitely brian johnson actual donated 100 i hope you mean eight months well for the sake of time we
05:59:30.900
can't linger on this one for too long but and i don't really this is not a like i said just like
05:59:37.380
i was just throwing something out as a demonstration however long it takes uh it's going to be only in
05:59:43.820
the early life of the infant yeah so whatever that may be eight months nine months ten months whatever it
05:59:51.720
is can i just say one thing can i end it can i say sure sure i just these studies i asked about the age
05:59:58.820
because i think yes a mother is needed more than a father early on and if they don't have
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a mother at the start of their lives um it's can be significantly detrimental to them later on well
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you you asked him for a study do you have a study for that i'm that's a traditional value it's worked
06:00:19.920
for centuries that a mother and a mother has done a motherly role and a father has well the two-parent
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household is i'm not yes i never said the two-parent household isn't optimal that it is optimal
06:00:32.060
but you're so your position is that my position is that a father can't be a better mother than a
06:00:39.760
mother yeah but a mother can't be a better father than a father so the question still remains as to
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whether or not a father can't the outcomes of the child raised by a single mother or single father
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which one is more optimal and the data is against you not against me i think i think like up until a
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certain age yes the mother becomes less and less needed sorry what age you just came up with eight
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that was arbitrary though right um yeah okay anyway whatever anyway mother being a mother is needed a
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lot at the start and then the father is needed a bit longer just like kind of push the kid out
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because the mother is very like protective and doesn't want the kid to go you know off into the
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world and the father's meant to discipline and be like you're fine and push them out into the world
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i'm just saying i'm not saying anything that groundbreaking so then so then would you say then
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that fathers probably provide for better outcomes for children in single parent households i moved out of
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home when i was 15 and lived with my dad and that was i was great i love my dad was so in your
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personal experience then yes it would you say yeah so even in your personal experience my life
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and my father could not have provided that role so this is actually an excellent segue because absent
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data and i don't expect you to have any and you're at a disadvantage because you can't look it up
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so i'm not going to hold any of that against you but even from your own personal purview it is
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true that a single father household was better for you um you're not i think i think i don't know
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what we're arguing i feel like you have i don't feel like we're arguing the same thing i feel like
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you should answer my question i feel like you're trying to entrap me i feel like i don't care how
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you feel and you should answer my question so from your own personal purview from your own personal
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experience the single father household was better right i think when i was young i needed my mother
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and when i got older i needed my father yeah that doesn't answer my question can you just answer it
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you can say the try this word yes or try this other word no you can try one of those
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go on she wants you to restate the question what what's that she wants you to restate the question
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okay well i'll restate the question so from your own purview your purview you your own personal
06:03:02.100
experience absent studies was the single father household better than the single mother household
06:03:07.280
my mother wasn't a single mother she had i had a stepdad okay great and which one did you end up
06:03:12.880
living with my dad okay and was it better um it was different i definitely needed my dad there
06:03:20.920
oh it was different so you moved in there because you just wanted something different look
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my argument no no you look you just moved in there because you wanted something different my argument
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you're twisting my words and you twist everyone's words you're not gonna oh yeah yeah i'm just
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twisting your own words against you what a psychopath now answer my question did you just call me a
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psycho what did you say i well you have to the problem is you can't hear me over your own mouth
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what i'm saying to you specifically is this me using your words and quoting them back to you
06:03:56.920
is not me doing something wrong and it's not twisting anything you're twisting my words here let me
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i don't think we're gonna make any progress on that let me move it on i just normally we don't
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read these sarahi if you want just send you gotta if you don't have ig normally we do all our talent
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recruitment through instagram at whatever can you create an instagram or i suppose you can email
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uh just email brian at whatever living underscore donated 100 lexi i actually think you are a
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traditional girl i looked at your instagram and you can't even completely see your butthole
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okay thank you for that thank you for that here shifting gears here shifting gears you i'm we're
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gonna get through these guys you said women should date multiple men at a time i didn't say i have
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sex with no don't have sex with them date them date multiple how many when you say multiple men three
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three men is more i think more would be okay though as long as you're not having sex with them i think
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it would be way too hard to date more than three men at a time okay so i mean
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soul fist donated 100 thank you thank you all of society's degenerates were raised by single mothers
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criminals sex workers drug addicts alcoholics etc a single mom cannot stop a teenage boy if he
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decides he no longer wants to listen i think i think we need dads we need dads single moms are bad
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thank you selfist for for that uh so you said that women should date multiple men at a time should
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men date multiple women at a time yeah oh okay well uh i mean i'll give you my point of view on this
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if i was dating a girl and she told me that she was dating other men that would be a goodbye and i don't
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know if we talked about this how many dates in like if it's like you're going on a first date and you
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just went on a first date last week or oh you're you've been seeing this girl now for a whole month
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you've gone on three dates you're gone on three dates with three other girls like i feel there's
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there's a spectrum yeah yeah so i'm a i'm a loyalist absolutist so you go on a date with one girl
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she has to be she has to be single properly single how recently if she went on a first date on
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the week before your first date how recently can she can she have last been on a date look
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uh let me maybe i should try i'm also i'm also a loyalist i only date one man at one time yeah
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so uh if here okay here's the here's the easiest way for me to explain this
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if i go on the first date with you and you want to go on a second date with me
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it has to be a wrap with those other dudes okay so i can at least i'll give you a little leeway if
06:07:00.680
there was you know you if you were sleeping with another guy and i went on the first date with you
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done i think that's a done sleeping with a guy she shouldn't be that's dating other men that's the
06:07:10.240
leeway i'll give but uh if i go on the first date with you and you want to see me again it's got to
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be done with those other dudes bare minimum on the second date second no if okay if i go on the
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first date with you and you want to see me again you can't be going on another on another date why
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what promises why why why does a woman have to give up all her choices are you gonna be going on
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another second date oh i'm i fucking am a sniper i'll laser in on a chick if i like her i like her
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and that's it well how does she know that are you gonna tell her what does that this mean fuck
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i'll tell her before the first day i'll i'll see how far i can push the boundary i'll be like
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yeah i don't want you talking to other dudes um see i think that's respectful first message
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hi nice to meet you nice to meet you i'm brian you must swear off all other men in fact even if we
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only go on a date and it doesn't go anywhere you have to join the nunnery if you're being that's
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how fucking extremist i'm a fucking extremist on this shit you are saying that you want to be
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exclusive with her and and so you're not dating anyone else and she's not gonna then she's that's
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what's up then they both agreed that you don't want to date anyone else and that seems fine
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that's a shizzle yeah i think like third date in like you should a woman shouldn't be seeing
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more than like another like maybe two people at the same time because i think if you're investing
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your time it's actually going on a date with the man you're showing him interest and after a first
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date if you don't want to go on a second date like you're done like but you shouldn't be seeing
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i think three to four men and entertaining multiple men at the same time i think you're i think you go
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and you date three men go on three dates if you don't like him after three dates you toss him and if
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i'm trying to schedule a date with a girl i like for friday night for friday evening and she's like
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sorry i'm dating i'm going on a date with another guy okay it's over that's that's like that's fair
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if you don't if you don't want to i don't want it i don't want it that's cool i i don't think women
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should be dating multiple men i think they should have one they should date one guy three dates give
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him three dates if you don't like him oh that's not dating men like multiple men i don't think you
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should date three men for like forever you should give him three dates and if you don't like him
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you should you should tell him and then until you find the one you want to marry more than one
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person at the same time look you can do what you want but like again i'm a fucking extremist on this
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yes um hold on hillage donated 100 monogamy is dead the future doesn't look good brian is spot on
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nothing hurts more than her lying to you and the one guy you worried about is the first person she
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runs to after it do work also to add to this kind of the anecdote i gave before like i want a girl who's
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not encumbered with some like psycho ex or any of that shit i want a girl who's properly single so
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that can mean there's not some fucking weirdo ex in the picture all the way to she's just not
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entertaining other dudes casually even for casual date like not even hooking up certainly like if
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she's having sex with another dude not interested i don't think i've lost interest hook up have kiss
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be physical with a guy okay but even if she's just like talking to another dude i want let me again
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maybe this was maybe the i don't even think it's extremist this is how things just normally used to be
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but shit is so fucked up now i want a woman's undivided romantic and sexual attention as early
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on as possible of course you do of course every guy wants that of course why do you deserve that
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what do you mean why do i deserve it what are you giving her are you giving are you gonna marry her
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you're gonna have babies with her what wait i don't really sorry go ahead go ahead morgan i was gonna
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say if a man is properly pursuing a woman and initiating a date going on a date then a man would
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receive that loyalty i think from a woman that is just what a woman should do if she is also
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interested in that man to where i don't think a woman even needs to be talking to and entertaining
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three to four men at the same time going on three dates and like didn't work out i'm gonna toss them
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like you can find that out with just one man and being you know i'm gonna be intentional and talking
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to one person at a time and devoting that time to that person getting to know them all right well i think
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women don't have as much that much time i think they should date three guys three dates three guys
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three dates if it works i mean if it works for you guys i'm just speaking from and again i'm probably
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an outlier in this regard i don't have time for that a lot of men what tolerate a lot of bullshit but
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me personally like my kind of position is like i'm going to be entering your life like a fucking
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whirlwind there's not gonna be this like this like uh probationary period for three months where
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we're fucking other people no boom i meet you it's fucking on that's it that's nice that's a nice way
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to be no i don't know how i could talk to three men at the same time i'm being so honest like i could
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not entertain and go on different dates in three dates with three men and trying to coordinate that
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that's i think harming a woman more than helping her i personally agree with that i mean going back
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into what um that we were just talking about i mean i think i would be upset if i knew the guy was
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going on a second third date with is dating other people and taking them on dates that would make me
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feel some type of way i came in like a wrecking ball sorry sorry sorry all right then that's good luck
06:12:46.940
to you guys i hope you guys find someone well i mean if you go on a third date with a man right and
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then he's saying oh yeah like i actually have two more dates this weekend with these other women i'm
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not really sure i feel about you because i'm also going on these dates with these two other women
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how would that make you feel um he hasn't promised me i've sexual exclusivity he hasn't said well you're
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not having sex but i mean if you knew that the guy you were interested in was also seeing three other
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women that's pretty common if he hasn't made a commitment to me then he's free to do what he wants
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yeah i am kind of curious here um can you can you tell me why there would actually be a moral
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problem this is to uh tp usa can you tell me why there would actually be a moral problem with a
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woman dating multiple men if she wasn't physically engaging with them she was just looking at her
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various suitors and trying to determine which one she preferred to be with i mean she could anyone
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can do whatever they want but i mean even no no no no no no i know she can i know she can we've
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established she can so let me re-ask the question what is the actual moral problem with her doing so
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if she's not engaging in a physical relationship with them if she's not engaging with a physical
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relationship with them there's not necessarily a moral problem with a woman going on multiple dates
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but i've seen cases of women being serial daters where they constantly are going on multiple dates
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with multiple different men or entertaining relationships and talking to multiple different
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men and none of them are really working out because i feel like women are so quick to have like a fear
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of a better option to where instead of actually devoting time and getting to know somebody intentionally
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they're instead just going to the next date and someone else who's new and shiny you mean like
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leading them on you're talking about leading them on yeah yeah but that would be kind of nefarious
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assuming she's not leading them on she's just looking for the best suitor and so she dates multiple men
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but they're actually just dating dating doesn't it doesn't have the modern connotation of sleeping
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with you they're just actually going on dates and she let's say she's dating six at the same time
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uh to find the best suitor what's the actual problem with that i mean if it's a first date if
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you're going on six first dates i don't see a issue with that it's when you're starting to continue that
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relationship and getting to know a person that that's when you would need to shift your mindset
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in devoting time to actually intentionally getting to know that person but that's just my that's my
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personal opinion morally if a woman's going on six first dates no there's nothing morally wrong with
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that if there's no sexual interactions going on there's getting to know a person then fine but when
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you get to that second third fourth date time period and you're talking offline you're not just talking
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in person on a date then you know you are devoting and spending time and effort with that person and
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wanting to get to know them so i think i would agree with you here um to an extent that if you
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map it on to reality that women probably aren't going to be dating multiple men if it's not to
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lead them on or to get some sort of resource or something like this i understand that i'm just
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curious from your purview if they're actually doing something wrong if there's no nefarious intention
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behind it no i which that's where i agree there is if a woman is going on multiple first or second
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dates i will say second dates at the third date you should know you know who the suitors are
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but first and second dates we're going on a couple of first and second dates no there is nothing
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oh it's our friend natalia uh hey natalia thank you so much for the gifted 20 memberships you're a legend
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always love seeing your comments uh after the videos thank you appreciate it natalia
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uh actually i want to come back to something you said so i said i want a woman's
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i want a woman to be oh my god how am i blanking on the thing i just said what did i say about uh
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no but it's not exclusive what's the word i used
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is it exclusive hold on let me google this thing
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one sec guys hold on uh somebody sing a song really quick while i'm googling this shit
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undivided thank you nick you're a fucking legend
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okay i said i want a woman's undivided sexual and romantic attention immediately and you're like
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well why do you deserve that and i actually think that it's i'm giving a girl a better deal
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actually than the reverse what is what are you giving how many women complain about these guys
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are commitment phobic they don't want to commit blah blah blah they just want to fuck around and
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be players you're giving i actually think that i'm giving you exactly what you want so you can
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you can hop on the ride or you can get off i think that's if you are so sure about a girl and
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it's not about what i deserve really why do i deserve it i i when you said i want this from
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a woman yes i i didn't know what you were what you were giving in return if you're going to give
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like a lifetime commitment to her take care of no not lifetime commitment that's not what we're
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that's what women date for well most women how am i supposed to give a lifetime commitment that can
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i don't really understand i can bridge the gap here i think i see what she's saying
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so your your question back you're asking why is it that a woman should give you her undivided
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attention if if she's dating multiple suitors she can find the one who's going to give her a lifetime
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commitment did i get that right yes yes okay so then what what brian's saying is well look
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if it's me i think that i'm i'm enough of a prize or i have enough that i'm giving immediately that i
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don't want to have the competition of other men that i'm competing with and the kind of woman who
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would string me along to give me competition with other women i don't want to be involved in
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and you as the person who wants his resources you would want to take that into consideration right
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because that would be exactly the type of steadfast man you would want a woman to be with for the rest of
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her life i don't want resources for like a short time i want it forever that's what i want a full
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yeah i know but the kind of man who wants your undivided attention is the type of man who's
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probably the most likely to give you those resources forever right most likely yeah but not yeah most
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likely so so then his point that's checkmate for brian then is it okay yeah that would be checkmate for
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brian so if if it's most likely true that the type of man who wants your undivided attention
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is also the type of man who's the most likely to give you all those resources for your lifetime
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then it seems like you would want a man who you gave your undivided attention to
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most likely just doesn't cut it if if i can add something here so i do think that perhaps my paradigm
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is both an old one and a new one in so far as my view on this is probably was actually perhaps
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fairly standard decades ago but now it's kind of new because there's this expectation that well
06:20:10.680
people are just out there dating multiple people i certainly know on dating apps the expectation is
06:20:16.280
going to be this person's dating multiple people you're lucky if they're not sleeping with one other
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person and that's kind of a tragic thing um but it's this new paradigm but an old paradigm
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and shit i lost my train of thought god damn it fucking
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wait okay so hold on hold on i got this i can do this get it fucking together brian okay
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should we go to the next point soon very soon but um you're trying oh my god i totally lost my
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train of thought checkmate himself no i didn't checkmate myself i just totally lost my train of
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thought which is that's a that's a that's a mulligan we're gonna call that a mulligan that's a
06:21:10.320
mulligan i was arriving at some point um but i totally forgot it'll probably come to me in five
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minutes when we're talking about some other shit um but uh wait it was oh thank you ab check okay let
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fuck it didn't come to me all right we're gonna move okay so hang on hang on i can jog your memory
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yeah here's here's where here's where we were at yeah yeah i was saying that if it's true that
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she feels like the type of man who's the most likely to give her long-term resources would be
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the kind of man who wants and desires her attention exclusively um then i don't i don't really understand
06:21:52.460
what her argument is because from your perspective that's exactly what you want to be is that man
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yes so you're providing a a lifetime commitment no what the what well no but he would be the most
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likely type of man who would if he wanted your undivided attention and was giving you the resources
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right now he would be the most likely to do that long term well why should she stop looking for other
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men when and that she might find another guy who will give her a lifetime commitment like well the
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problem well how how would she determine which type of man is going to give her a lifetime commitment
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it wouldn't be on the first date right so if the type of man who's going to give her a lifetime
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commitment wouldn't that be exactly the type of man who would say i want exclusivity i think you
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need to go get to know a person to see whether you can trust them and if they say they want to be
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exclusive um and they want they're looking for they're looking for a lifetime commitment i'm
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saying they promise right there on the third date they want to marry i'm just saying that that's what
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they're that they're they want to work on together exclusively i think then they should stop dating
06:23:05.880
other people this is kind of weird though because let's assume for a second that you're in this
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situation where you have three different suitors and one of this the two suitors say they're okay with
06:23:16.200
you having the other two suitors they're fine with it they'll compete and one of the suitors says no
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fuck that i'm not competing with nobody i want to date exclusively and that's that and you need to
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kick these other assholes to the curb wouldn't that be the guy you would be most likely to think would
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have the long-term commitment to you um i just don't think you can imply that it's reaching a little
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bit i mean it's nice that he wants exclusivity that's nice but it's not he's not he could just want
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have her exclusively for a short time yeah but so the other two haven't made any commitment they
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haven't even all they've said is sure we'll just continuously like you don't know if that's all
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the information you have to go off of wouldn't you go for the guy who wants exclusivity well the thing
06:23:59.780
is we don't have just three men to choose from we've actually got three men at a time um if one guy
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doesn't want to what want to wait i don't know not wait but like
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if one guy just um can't provide commitment to a woman and he doesn't want to do that then she
06:24:22.660
should stop dating him but is an exclusivity commitment
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um yeah i guess you you need exclusivity um you need to that you a promise like it's for a future
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it's like forever you need to like decide like how much time you're going to spend together yeah but
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i mean he's not going to say i'm going to do this forever right away but saying that i want this to be
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an exclusive relationship seems like that would be step one on that larger course right i think it
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would be a bit of a red not red flag i don't want to say red flag but like that would be the opposite
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of a red flag right date if a guy said i want to you're the one i want to marry you i would be a
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little bit oh i wouldn't say that shit so you so you would date a girl for a few times you said you
06:25:07.560
come into her life like a train or something and be like you're the one i want to be you don't be
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dating any other men so how many dates like well hopefully she's not dating other dudes even on that
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first date but i will give a little bit of leeway it's still suboptimal the best scenario is the
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girl's properly single and then from the get-go that's the best that will make you more appealing
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to a man than if he knows that you're just dating other dudes in my view in the i mean like she's not
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um being physical with any men don't care okay well that's fine it's up to you if you don't want to
06:25:45.660
if you want to date a woman who isn't dating any other men i don't want like here's the thing right
06:25:51.060
i don't want a fence sitter and as somebody i mentioned it before as somebody who's been on
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both sides of of this where women will show interest in me i show interest in women i take
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the initiative they've taken the initiative i want a woman who's like really fucking into me i don't want
06:26:06.080
some chick that it's like she's playing hard to get and it's and it's a chase it's just better if
06:26:10.980
she just like like instantly what let's turn it around let us assume for a second that you were
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dating a guy who had four different girls he was dating would you recommend that the girl who said to
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him that she wants him to exclusively date if his goal was long-term commitment that he go with that
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one uh it's up to him really like i don't think men date for i think if a woman was like i want to be
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exclusive with you and he's and if he felt the same way then he should be exclusive with her
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no i think he's asking what advice you would give to a woman who's dating a man who's dating five women
06:26:50.500
oh i would be like don't sleep with him yeah right but but wouldn't you say that he she should put
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herself in a position where it's exclusive that's that's the goal for sure right if that's the goal
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then why wouldn't that be the goal for a man as well to say i want exclusivity um i don't i think
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i'm not saying men that's not the goal i think it's harder for a man to give up sexual exclusivity
06:27:17.080
than it is for a woman to give up that that does that make sense yeah i don't think men like to
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wait i i think we're arguing a little bit past each other so what i'm arguing i would actually concede
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to you that in terms of you being able to potentially find or get the bet well find the
06:27:35.620
best guy it might be better for you as the woman to date multiple men because you have more options
06:27:40.980
however what i'm saying is from the guy's perspective from the guy's view i would find it
06:27:47.520
more attractive in a woman to learn that she's just dating me or she's not dating a bunch of other dudes
06:27:54.420
i would be much more inclined to just immediately reject her if i know she's dating other men and i
06:28:00.180
wouldn't even bother pursuing her i'm like and you know it's not worth my time let me go find a girl
06:28:05.320
who's properly single so that's where you will end up potentially losing out on certain men by you know
06:28:10.960
having the sort of conduct where you're just dating around dating multiple men i hope you're forthcoming
06:28:15.660
about that with potential partners or men might just assume it but it might look it ultimately might be
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the best move for you maybe i think but from a guy's perspective again i me personally i don't
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reckon i don't encourage men to date women who are dating other men i think it's a suboptimal dating
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move go find yourself a girl who's properly single that's it okay i can understand how it would be
06:28:39.000
unappealing if a woman was dating other men yeah yeah i can understand that yeah precisely so i think
06:28:44.340
what you're arguing is this is what's best for women and it may very well be but it's not really
06:28:50.020
what's best in my view for men yeah to date a woman who's dating other men yeah i can't it's 100
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my view is my my prescriptive view is if she's sleeping with a guy that's a no-go instantly of
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course if there's another guy in the picture sexually it's a no-go woman's like kisses another
06:29:09.000
guy she should not date the other men she should not date three men and be physical with them she should
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just date them and don't do anything physical just get to know them and then if she likes one
06:29:22.000
she's like that's the one i want to focus on she should focus on that one but a lot of men
06:29:26.560
don't even realize some men like are just either maybe their dating prospects are lacking so they're
06:29:32.860
prepared to accept what i view as a suboptimal arrangement but my strong recommendation to men
06:29:40.040
your bare minimum looking to the men your bare minimum ought to be you do not entertain any sort
06:29:47.120
of relationship with a woman who's currently engaged in a uh a sexual relationship with another
06:29:54.740
man that's an instant of course sexual yes gone absolutely but i think women don't it's an instant
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yes out she goes i think um i think women don't have as much time as men so they that's why i think
06:30:08.720
i'm like encouraging the three-day rule and i don't think women should be physical because i think that
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do you oh do you think women should wait until marriage to have sex maybe that's the next segue here
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yeah why do you say like that i mean i wouldn't i think that's the best option is that what you've done
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i don't want to talk about me i'm not talking okay that's a no that's a no relationship that's a no
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i'm gonna say i'm gonna assume that's a no but i'm not talking about me but i think it's better to
06:30:37.540
do a long courting period and get to know each other i understand that men want that that's like
06:30:44.080
their number one thing um but i think women fall in love through good fall in love do it yes but we
06:30:52.200
could fall in love with the wrong man so i think i think when we fall in love it's through sex and
06:30:58.940
when a man falls in love it's when he's made a commitment so why should a woman give up her
06:31:07.480
so you're talking about marriage waiting until marriage is that what we're talking about here yeah
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yeah yeah look i mean that's good if you're if you're religious i suppose um i certainly wouldn't
06:31:24.340
recommend a secular man wait until marriage with a secular woman you could make that argument for
06:31:30.100
a religious woman but i think it's well take away religion and just talk about the statistics of
06:31:36.840
pair bonding and body count and all of that meaning something then if you are getting into a relationship
06:31:42.520
with someone that you with the intention of possibly being married in the future or a long-term
06:31:47.200
monogamous partner whatever it is you know waiting until that establishment at least of okay we're
06:31:53.440
monogamous partners for life or slash marriage same difference because you know holding out until that
06:32:00.900
point i think does offer benefits within the relationship well we are we did already have the
06:32:06.940
conversation about uh marriage and what's the point of secular marriage and religious marriage um just
06:32:13.540
moving gear shifting gears here you said women should be hypergamous so what does it mean to be
06:32:18.560
hypergamous uh it means dating choosing the best man the most high value man and so is that kind of
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that's related to the also women should date multiple men so you can find the highest quality yeah god okay
06:32:33.800
yeah women should be hypergamous huh should they though i want to say that i think i said earlier that
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women are brainwashed and they're not making the best choices of men right now i think that some i think
06:32:51.340
in society right now the wrong men are being elevated and given more status and so women are picking
06:32:58.880
sort of what they're being told is good and i don't and maybe they're not that great you know
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interesting what have they been brainwashed by like what happened to all the masculine men
06:33:12.400
feminism exactly but feminism is just another name for brainwashing it's just this this i don't know i
06:33:20.680
don't want to say you know them the matrix the state or whatever whoever is the elite people yeah be
06:33:26.160
careful with that one okay so i don't want to say exactly but that's what i don't want to go with
06:33:30.420
but anyway okay um yeah but you would agree that feminism is part of this massive brainwashing
06:33:37.320
apparatus for women yes feminism has been a tool of a brainwashing and isn't feminism about female
06:33:43.460
empowerment no absolutely no what is feminism about um um uh it's about um just making women
06:33:56.160
be men i guess it's kind of empowering women but it's the facade of women's empowerment it's not
06:34:03.120
actual true women's empowerment of embracing femininity the feminist movement has distorted that
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wait one thing really quick this came in sorry j miles rip riple it came in but the tts didn't trigger
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oh wait sorry this one okay one sec oh there it is yo brian and andrew please ladies and thought
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hogs what the fuck watch larson farms millennial farmer on youtube authentic great people men like
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zach are and chet will get them okay what minnesota men 30 foes blank pigs 49 year old farm boy mic drop
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wow okay that was some shakespeare shit right there thank you j miles sorry that it didn't trigger the
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tts there's a curse word in there so it didn't trigger um hypergamy hypergamy women should be
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hypergamous yeah what do you mean they should be hypergamous they should pick the most the best value
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man the man provides the most value do you think yeah but that's not what hypergamy is what do you
06:35:08.120
think hypergamy is it means picking the man with the best who provides the best value yeah but that would
06:35:14.880
also include inside of hypergamy that they will do mate replacement meaning that they'll leave a man
06:35:20.900
for a higher status man even if they're in a committed relationship with that man
06:35:25.660
i think if a woman's married and she's made a commitment to a man and he's made a commitment to
06:35:33.040
her she should and she's had children with him especially she should stay with him even if a better
06:35:39.680
man right so then so then hang on so then actually what you're saying is that hypergamy needs to be
06:35:44.380
controlled um i feel like it's already kind of being controlled no i feel like it already kind
06:35:52.240
of isn't being controlled so i want to dive into this a little bit more and ask you if hypergamy is
06:35:58.180
about mate replacement for higher status men once you make a commitment then what you're saying is that
06:36:03.360
an apparatus needs to be in place to control hypergamy do you mean so women should not be hypergamous
06:36:09.540
as in like you're not allowed to get divorced is that what you mean i'm not saying you're not allowed
06:36:14.060
under some circumstances to get divorced i'm saying that there should be barriers for breaking
06:36:18.040
commitments and penalties for doing so yeah i think i think you should there should be um you know like
06:36:25.640
it used to be more shame around getting divorced you should be more societal consequences if you did
06:36:32.320
that so i think that's so keep hypergamy under control is what you're saying that society should do what
06:36:37.620
it needs to in order to keep female hypergamy under control yeah if i if what i just said is what you
06:36:43.880
mean then yeah i think yeah okay so then earlier your statement that females should be hypergamous was
06:36:50.800
actually not correct they should not be hypergamous in fact society should go out of its way to make
06:36:56.740
sure that female hypergamy is kept under control but they should still be hypergamous no well okay well
06:37:03.440
then we're back to this then why should they be hypergamous is your definition of hypergamy just to
06:37:09.100
say that at first they should find the best mate that they can and then commit to them for life
06:37:15.160
yes that's what i mean okay well then that's not hypergamy hypergamy is mate selection replacement
06:37:23.960
that is not hypergamy i don't think hypergamy is not interchangeable with promiscuity
06:37:29.180
okay yeah so so that's that's not hyper that's not what hypergamy is so you would actually have
06:37:39.880
a stance against hypergamy um all right then maybe i've yeah made a mistake there if that's the if
06:37:46.480
that's i don't know what the what's the what's the dictionary definition of hypergamy hypergamy would
06:37:51.640
just be mace or mate replacement based on resource allocation i think or physical attraction so
06:37:58.820
hypergamy is just woman go with best standard option that she has available at the time well
06:38:04.980
i think women should find the most value man pick him commit to him for life not right so even if he
06:38:13.800
even if he gets into a tragic accident and loses his legs she should stay with him in order to take
06:38:19.860
care of him in a committed relationship and not trade up right in this individual circumstance
06:38:25.700
um i think she should that would be nice if i had to look after him right so then that would not be
06:38:33.720
hypergamy then okay so what's the dictionary definition of hypergamy i just told you what is
06:38:39.920
it i just i literally just told you what i'm not a dictionary is does anyone okay fine you want me to
06:38:44.920
give you a dictionary definition of hypergamy to reaffirm what i already told you it was
06:38:48.780
hey guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one also
06:38:58.380
subscribe to our clips channel yep it's the propensity of individuals to form unions in which
06:39:05.940
the women of lower status than the man meaning in this case the woman's going to upgrade her status
06:39:12.740
to the higher status man which is available it didn't mention replacement in there okay so what
06:39:17.840
do you think the propensity of individuals to form unions in which a woman is of lower status than the
06:39:22.140
man is the man would be of higher status correct of course okay so then if the man became lower status
06:39:29.780
than the woman the natural inclination of this would what would be the logical implication of that if
06:39:36.000
your husband became lower status than you you would what anything about it doesn't make anything okay
06:39:42.660
one more time the propensity of individuals to form unions in which the woman is of lower status than
06:39:47.700
the man so if the man status drops below the woman the implication is what it doesn't imply that
06:39:54.340
what does it imply it implies what it said a man which is a woman of lower status than a woman pick
06:40:02.180
higher status men then they make uh-huh and they make a union uh-huh that's it that's what the
06:40:09.220
definition and then if a man falls to a lower status and then the woman and the woman's picking for a
06:40:15.400
higher status man then what happens you create another word for that because that's not in what is
06:40:20.520
it what what would the word be that's not the same thing you need another word it's the same
06:40:25.280
fucking thing if the propensity of the woman is to go for the higher status man and you're interjecting
06:40:30.740
that there's a lower status man now then she would go for the higher status man that's the point
06:40:36.220
um should we move on it's implied that's when you can i have so many notes i don't even know how you
06:40:45.460
could get anything else from that i have so many notes that i need i want to try to include everybody
06:40:50.740
here there's a lot of notes a lot of notes here oh look at that he's lit lighting up ciggy okay
06:40:56.340
we have cha-cha that was me yeah uh you said that a guy broke up with you because he said
06:41:02.740
do you want to tell us the story broke up with you because well i think i said that uh when we broke
06:41:11.440
up he took the trash can i think the question was uh what was the craziest thing or something like
06:41:16.540
that he broke up with you because he said what no i never said anything about what he had said
06:41:23.480
you said a guy okay in your pre-show notes you said a guy broke up with you because he said you
06:41:29.180
were too fat oh no okay that's a different the other question no so i was talking to a guy once
06:41:36.340
and um pretty early on he said that i was too fat yeah so uh i was 130 pounds i could lift like
06:41:45.300
i think it was like 135 uh 130 pounds right um i was benching uh i i could run a 16 17 two mile
06:41:54.740
like is that good yes for 4 11 yes it's a 16 minute two mile is that that's eight minute
06:42:02.080
it's an eight minute mile is that good for one yeah 4 11 is that good yeah is an eight minute mile
06:42:07.480
good sorry sorry i don't even know if i can run an eight minute mile oh you could do it morgan you
06:42:12.580
could do it yeah i was i was pretty fit you know and he said i was too fat so i was like oh okay
06:42:18.840
okay and so you feel like that was wrong or he was he you weren't or because you you said you're
06:42:28.440
4 11 and you were 130 pounds should we pull up the mbi mbi calculator nick bmi sorry sorry yeah i was
06:42:38.620
probably nick do you want to pull that up it does i think there's a tab for it scroll it up
06:42:45.960
yeah you probably need to pull us on the no make this bigger the screen
06:42:52.940
all right yeah height 4 11 and then i can't believe i'm doing this okay
06:43:05.860
uh bmi 26.3 indicating your weight is in the overweight category for adults of your height
06:43:14.400
oh yeah oh yeah i always have been i'm in the military so uh i've always had a tape in the military
06:43:20.620
weight but was he so he was he was right no definitely not because uh weight standards
06:43:30.520
need to change but i mean the bmi scale like i've learned doesn't consider muscle density
06:43:38.240
and it's like somewhat i mean wouldn't that apply more so to men than women because men are more
06:43:42.720
have more muscle i mean it can apply to to men and women i mean sure i there are bmi is not perfect
06:43:49.840
from a scientific standpoint like okay all right just that's just what i've learned curious okay
06:43:54.820
all right uh we have oh she's up at the bathroom let's get allison we haven't heard much from allison
06:44:00.020
we got allison here right there she is there she is two months ago wait oh wait oh the soccer coach
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you want to tell us that story yes um so i went on a first date with a guy who's a soccer coach
06:44:14.060
um the date went well um we just went for a drink and then uh we were just kind of throwing some
06:44:20.120
questions back and forth like what's a non-negotiable for you um i can't remember the term off the top of
06:44:25.300
my head stag stag so he said i believe in a stag relationship so i'm thinking i don't know what
06:44:30.540
that means so i'm thinking you just stay with one person but it turns out that he needed me to be with
06:44:37.100
somebody else like sexually before being able to be monogamous with me and he would have to pick
06:44:44.560
that partner and he had like a criteria so yeah so obviously i ended things after that but i never
06:44:53.820
heard of what a stag was before and um so he like so it's it's a stag is a he he needed to find a man
06:45:01.980
for you to sleep with that he chose and he wanted to watch correct yeah in the same yikes i'm gonna
06:45:08.980
send that so that's a cook right yeah that's that's definitely a cut yeah yeah that's definitely
06:45:14.820
sending the asteroid on that one um and he said it was the only way he could move forward to getting
06:45:22.100
to know you better so but you didn't take him up on this i'm assuming no not at all all right you
06:45:27.200
also wrote yes uh specifically you wanted to talk about gender roles dating in this generation i'm a
06:45:31.800
traditional female and would like a male to lead in a relationship as well as within the dating
06:45:36.400
talking stages did we do the traditional not traditional for your instagram fuck it let's do
06:45:42.140
it oh i don't think we did pull up allison's instagram you can also slide into her dms here if
06:45:47.000
you want she's single and she wants to get beyond the six month mark it'll happen we have faith
06:45:53.400
traditional not traditional fitness freedom faith you're a school counselor clinical psychologist
06:45:59.200
and a child advocate all right scroll down all right her okay oh there's a is that a bikini i don't
06:46:08.000
know all right so nick if you can pull up the chat here not bad traditional or not traditional
06:46:13.960
traditional or not traditional traditional or not traditional stop lifting weights red flag sorry
06:46:23.160
uh let's see too much so much gym belongs to the streets squat dough no trad not bad not trad
06:46:33.100
not tried red flag thick thick bra thick bra non-traditional gym rats are red flag oh i don't i don't
06:46:41.240
know if a girl who goes to the gym necessarily is a she takes care of herself never red flags
06:46:46.220
uh somebody said trad kelsey oh that's a woman though okay that's maybe your friend
06:46:51.980
uh okay there you have it i see i saw trad there was a oh there we go trad is a trad or not trad okay
06:47:01.240
uh so there's that you want a male to lead and okay that's no problem there you said modern dating we
06:47:08.300
are all corrupting the natural process of an organic connection relationships specifically with dating
06:47:13.440
apps dms we are our own worst enemy and always looking for the next best thing yeah or and is
06:47:19.440
that the case for you like you're always looking for the next best thing um no but i feel like
06:47:26.120
obviously i i fed into it with dating apps and stuff like that so yes in the past i have
06:47:31.240
um i can't deny that for sure but okay i'm just looking for all right got it we had morgan here morgan
06:47:39.700
wanting to talk about birth control so going around we haven't done the birth control question
06:47:43.860
oh yeah well we'll go around the table who here is on birth control starting with you not i not me
06:47:53.300
no yes i am gustavo what you got yes you got a vasectomy you got one of those vasectomies or what
06:48:02.500
aren't reversible yes no just curious which uh what if you find what type of birth control iud
06:48:11.300
the pill nexplanon depo the shot the shot what about what you rocking i'm on the pill for like
06:48:19.500
the once a day yeah okay what about you the newborn birth control makes sense okay what about
06:48:27.300
what about you um yes i have an iud copper or the marina marina is that the hormonal that's copper
06:48:33.900
no no marina is the hormonal i used to be i should probably know what's okay not on birth control
06:48:40.160
anymore dope why are you uh you're not a fan of birth control not you want to talk about not a fan
06:48:46.260
yeah i'll talk briefly about it for the ladies that are on birth control or anyone watching who's
06:48:50.140
on birth control it is poisoning your body at the end of the day everyone gets on birth control
06:48:54.220
because they want to regulate their hormones when in reality the hormones don't need to be regulated
06:48:58.860
we need to be doing things to our body like eating the right foods you know staying healthy and not
06:49:04.540
taking a prescription of some kind to regulate that when we're just tricking our bodies uh and i mean
06:49:11.860
though i think the most fascinating thing about birth control is that our physical attractiveness of
06:49:16.020
who we're attracted to changes when we're on birth control versus off birth control on the pill when
06:49:21.060
you take your period week you're tricking your body into having a period when that's not necessarily
06:49:26.200
when you would have it so it's really interesting with just attractiveness it it's really interesting
06:49:31.620
with your hormones your mood levels i mean look at how many women are on ssris for their anxiety and
06:49:37.160
depression which may most likely is caused by birth control so there's a lot of issues that we look at
06:49:43.980
with just women's psyches that is caused by birth control but you never actually are aware of those side
06:49:49.820
effects because doctors just want to continue to make money off of pharma there's my five second
06:49:55.480
rant do you think there's been any um societal consequences of the pill societal consequences
06:50:02.040
absolutely because now it's actually legal to purchase over the counter uh to where i mean you
06:50:07.880
could have 13 14 year old girls going into a drugstore to buy birth control because it's the next cool new
06:50:13.860
thing because they just wanted to regulate their hormones and i don't think that's normal i mean like
06:50:19.680
the invention but like in the 60s oh yeah i mean it was invented for eugenics going back to even the
06:50:25.960
abortion industry like the reason that birth control existed in the beginning was because of the eugenics
06:50:31.920
movement because they didn't want african americans to reproduce and have children but and then you know
06:50:37.340
that feeds into um the abortion industry so then now modern women they've just been sold to continue to
06:50:44.720
even with feminism and the lies that we've been talking about with that well take birth control so you can
06:50:49.220
stay in the corporate world longer so you don't have kids and you don't have to get married and have
06:50:52.960
children and be at home and so instead why don't you just work a job and go on birth control or
06:50:57.420
have you been yeah i've said personally at least i've started birth control just because i wasn't
06:51:03.700
like getting a period like i was having struggles with like regulating my period and i wasn't really
06:51:08.960
getting it it kind of went away um so that's what like the doctor recommended have you ever gotten a
06:51:15.680
hormone panel done to see your actual hormone levels in your body to see because women's cortisol
06:51:21.740
levels and different hormones that we have within our body we go through natural cycle changes like
06:51:27.480
women in a month go have different cycle like so we have a cycle we're kind of like on a body clock
06:51:33.840
to where getting on birth control sure you may have a period but getting off of it and actually learning
06:51:39.860
your body and tracking it and using something like natural cycles or tracking your hormone levels
06:51:44.800
is going to be way more beneficial for the long run is that encouraging i'm just curious but i but
06:51:51.600
that's the case but for a lot of when i got off my birth control the first thing my doctor said was
06:51:56.740
you're gonna regret this are you sure you don't want to be back on birth control i said well what
06:52:00.660
are the side effects and she was like oh you can read them they're on the pamphlet so women are so
06:52:04.880
ill-informed when they do get on birth control when i was on the Mirena IUD for six years i didn't have
06:52:09.940
a period which isn't normal but my doctor said it is normal you're fine you're not going to get
06:52:15.080
pregnant and i'm like well how am i supposed to know my body what do you think i mean what do you
06:52:19.880
think about non-hormonal forms of birth control like the IUD or a copper IUD there's definitely
06:52:24.860
side effects absolutely but uh definitely side effects of the copper IUD not as bad as uh
06:52:30.240
in terms of the hormonal sure but i mean if you know non-hormonal birth control i would honestly
06:52:36.060
just consider would be like condoms um but or natural cycles i don't know if y'all heard natural
06:52:41.200
cycles but you can physically track every single day based off your temperature and it uh will tell
06:52:46.920
you you're fertile and non-fertile days because why are we medicating ourselves 365 days a year when
06:52:52.000
really we can only get pregnant five to six days out of the month interesting interesting you know
06:52:58.680
isn't it the case though that the hormonal birth control i think you mentioned this uh it tends to make
06:53:04.060
women more attracted to feminine men yep so cross my mind and weight gain weight loss is a huge thing
06:53:13.040
would women be more or less attracted to me to me on birth control
06:53:20.760
yeah i always got to make it about me right it's always about you it's always about me i was just
06:53:29.180
like no but women are attracted to more feminine men on birth control because i i'm not like the
06:53:34.220
total manly i'm not like super manly man but i feel like i'm also not a soy boy you're no you're
06:53:40.320
not a soy boy so like am i kind of neutral am i a bit neutral you're in the safe i'm one of the
06:53:46.920
boys yeah one of the girls brian's one of the girls oh great i'm just around too much
06:53:51.880
you're around too many women doing this it might be i've i find people tell me i'm starting to say
06:53:58.480
like milk because if you don't oh i've been starting to say like a lot though it's bad
06:54:04.240
you're turning brian check your nails that's not like it's like a valley girl oh yeah i did it like
06:54:09.260
that okay yeah you're you're thinking i was gonna do like that right okay just checking i had to see
06:54:12.860
i still have a little man in me left okay all right so there's that maybe we'll i'll come back to
06:54:18.000
some more stuff here oh really quick on the draft uh who's the primary victim of war men or women
06:54:26.040
men okay yeah anybody think it's women i'm kidding okay all right uh
06:54:34.120
yo exo shawnee thank you for the uh 50 appreciate it thank you exo shawnee now me uh rose we're going
06:54:44.080
to rose here with our notes finally you said you should your first message to us when you dm'd us
06:54:50.740
was you should really put me on your podcast which is very confident very confident and so i'm curious
06:54:58.940
why i don't know i just i just thought that would be interesting i feel like sometimes i have some hot
06:55:05.800
uptakes uh some crazy stories yeah like burning your clothes or slashing a tire yeah tell us about
06:55:13.080
the the the guy who asked you out on a date who
06:55:17.080
oh you know you know what i mean that story um yeah so i was asked out on a date by a this is the
06:55:27.960
the gay yeah okay yeah um by a guy who was gay and um he wanted to use it as a cover-up
06:55:39.220
to is that a beard is that what that's called a beard i yeah i believe so you were the beard no you
06:55:45.480
were the beard i was the beard yeah he won't how old was he um this was this was like senior year of
06:55:52.660
high school so i was like 18 why would i i don't know why a young guy would want a beard like that's
06:56:00.160
he had a crush on this guy um in my high school and um it was the type of scenario where it was like
06:56:08.120
um he was the nerdier quiet kid and then he had a crush on this jock and it was being cycled
06:56:17.220
throughout the school that he had a crush on this this other kid in my school so he came out to me
06:56:27.160
yeah so um he came out to me that day um literally just vented everything and explained the whole story
06:56:41.660
and admitted that it was true and i was like wow this is a lot of information to trust me with
06:56:46.400
and then there's something about makeup and um something about makeup what did i say with that
06:56:52.700
he the dude wore makeup yes yes he did he wore makeup okay yeah he wore makeup he was fully like
06:57:01.920
he painted his nails like you could tell he was gay he was like but i need a girlfriend
06:57:05.920
to prove that i'm not okay that's all right that's it is that so no no no no so um we went on
06:57:15.740
like i don't it wasn't like a date date but like i don't know i consider it like hanging with a friend
06:57:21.420
or whatever but you had carnal knowledge i what was there carnal knowledge what does that mean
06:57:28.760
like carnal knowledge carnal carnal knowledge like a popcorn colonel what no carnal was there carnal
06:57:36.640
knowledge carnal did you have carnal knowledge with this man who's attracted to men car carnal
06:57:43.980
carnal knowledge carnal sexual intercourse oh with another man no did you have sexual intercourse
06:57:51.760
with the the dude no no oh okay he wanted to but you said he was gay that's what i'm saying i know
06:57:59.100
but what kind of proof did he want did he want to record it and then like excuse me
06:58:04.140
that's what i'm saying he was trying to he was either like i think he was trying to not be gay
06:58:11.920
wait yo yo yo i have a theory i got a theory there's like some dudes it's like the most pathetic
06:58:18.720
game ever but they'll like pretend to be gay to get pussy it's the weirdest fucking thing he was he was
06:58:25.920
but it definitely happened we were at this like frozen yogurt place and he asked me he was like
06:58:29.900
it's actually kind of predatory because they're like oh my i can let my guard down around him
06:58:33.760
we were at this frozen yogurt place and he was like so now that like you're my girlfriend can i kiss you
06:58:40.620
and i was like fuck i was like yo what i was like um but like you're you're gay why would you want to do
06:58:47.640
that and he was like just so i could like have the experience of kissing a girl because so i don't know
06:58:55.660
if that means he just wanted to like i don't know what his goals were here you know what i'm saying
06:59:02.020
but so technically yeah i want but the whole time his nails were painted and he had makeup on and i was
06:59:09.500
like what the fuck yeah literally like dude and then he just fully asked to kiss me and then i was
06:59:17.560
like no and i got up and i left you also said that there was a uh there was a trans man who tried
06:59:27.180
to ask you out what yes that that was also true um yes i my high school was interesting we had a lot
06:59:36.960
but you said that he he told you he wasn't trans even though you knew her way i'm so confused right
06:59:43.800
wait this is how you phrased it also a transgender man tried asking tried asking me out and told me
06:59:49.380
he wasn't trans even though i knew her as a woman right so this is a girl who's now a guy
06:59:56.060
asking you out i like participated in like sports and like i knew this person but um she just lied
07:00:05.580
but no they were like i don't even know what to call them but they fully like went through um
07:00:13.460
this like whole transition they were like i'm a new person now so i was never i would get bottom
07:00:19.220
surgery i was never that i don't know but then told you even though you knew this person before
07:00:24.940
the transition told you that they weren't trans yeah damn that's crazy yeah that's crazy oh i went to a
07:00:32.440
very interesting high school would y'all date a trans man oh yeah we could go around the table on
07:00:38.080
that would you date a trans man i don't know i honestly don't know no i wouldn't i don't know
07:00:52.980
would you more of them traditional values coming out i don't know couldn't tell you
07:01:01.400
super trad this is such a trad table super trad no no no no never dating again
07:01:09.680
would you sooner date a trans man or a trans woman
07:01:15.280
what i i don't know what does that mean though like a woman becoming a trans man is a woman to a
07:01:26.660
man a trans woman is a man to a woman yeah it's just opposites just think of it like opposites
07:01:38.260
no no no no no i'm not is that what you mean oh no i no that's all i no my question was would
07:01:47.980
neither neither no if you had to pick if you had to pick
07:01:55.020
actually yeah because that's a biological man so yeah i would date i would date a trans woman over
07:02:02.980
a trans man because a trans woman would be a biological male so you're confused there you go
07:02:08.160
but then that's become a nun confused and tired because but neither i think andrew would said he
07:02:14.860
would rather take the bullet is that right andrew that's correct okay let's see we have uh okay
07:02:23.020
moving on identity and honest okay we uh you said you're christian and faithful to your religion
07:02:28.980
you think p stars cannot separate their job from their relationship and their work is
07:02:35.380
that's fucking disgusting and sinful you said you think modern dating is lustful and straying away from
07:02:44.520
love i think from a biblical perspective that um it does like that line of work does stray away and
07:02:53.140
caters towards the lustful like it's an industry looking to make money through lust okay and so from a
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christian perspective then i would say that that whole industry in general like yeah implores like
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lust well you said i think porn's p stars cannot separate their job from their relationship and their work
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is disgusting and sinful we have two girls that are really close to you proximal when we're in
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proximity i'm not like do you want to just say it right to their face i'm not shaming them for it
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i'm not shaming them for it no you just think it's disgusting other sinners sinning sinners for
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sinning differently huh yeah it's yeah there are different lexi throws down by the way so just
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say it right to her face no no no because it's funny like there is different other sinners in
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different ways like i oh yeah girl how do you say tell us your sins my sins yeah burning people's
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shit fucking clothes there we go i sin too i'm not saying like one sin is worse than that would than
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another but i'm saying according to like a religious question i have a question i'm totally
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interrupting gustavo do you know do you watch dave chapelle have you seen the chapelle show
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you know that like robot dance you know the can you do do you know how to do it can you just do it
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for like the rest of the show in the corner over there how much longer is that i don't know just do
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it you don't do it what are you get okay wait so how do you sin how do i sin sorry derailed
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derailed of course everybody's a sinner burning shirts i burn shirts okay all right we all sinned
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but we also christians she just called you guys disgusting and you're not gonna say anything because
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that's her opinion like do you boo boo the industry is i'm not think less and live more no no no is
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that what the tattoos on your palm said yeah i agree with the think less part i don't think
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they're disgusting i think the industry in general i'm gonna look at you like that oh no the sex work
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industry 100 is i don't know if you want to kill me or fuck me it's really yes that and that's what
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i'm saying the sex work industry kidding it's a joke is a lot of people say the same thing though
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that's funny yes i don't think the people are disgusting i don't think individual people unless
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you have that intention are disgusting human beings for the record i think the industry in
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general but i am with you when i say yes the sex work industry is a vile industry that i do think
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benefits and praise off of women that are self-objectifying themselves and causing other men to lust
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also i don't i don't understand the take um why aren't individual women who are engaged in pornography
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not disgusting individuals because i think they're pretty fucking disgusting individuals
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like just to be perfectly honest with you uh to unequivocally put this the best way it possibly
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can if you are a woman who is engaged in prostitution or pornography you are a disgusting fucking
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individual why is it that you can't say that because i'm not going to take an individual person
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and tell them that they're a disgusting human being why not i can offer a christ-like approach
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what they're doing what they're doing can't you say what you're doing is fucking disgusting yes i
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can say that the acts that in which a woman is engaging in in the pornography industry and the
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prostitution industry and the sex work industry with that industry is disgusting behavior great then
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look over at them and point at them and say what you're doing it's okay to be narrow-minded
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it doesn't that's not narrow-minded you're really narrow-minded but i would rather
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but i don't think we can agree to disagree to even have the conversation i would rather approach the
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conversation of talking about how the industry harms women and encouraging future women and
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encouraging women like these to remove themselves from the industry and tell them about the harms that
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they're doing to society and their bodies and other men and even as they partake in it why don't you talk
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about the murder industry how the murder industry all the murder industry does is that it it leads
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people towards murder and so you know i'd rather talk to these murderers about the murder industry
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rather than the fact that they're doing the thing that you're against calling individuals disgusting
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it's not christ that's not christ like it's not loving exactly you know what's christ like what do
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you know what do you know what's christ like you know what's christ like you know i mean you want me
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to go over you want me to go over to a bunch of prostitutes and go well i'm not going to tell you
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what you're doing is disgusting because that's not very christ-like that's insanity right i will have
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discernment and call somebody out on their actions and talk to them about their actions
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but for me to go in front of someone's face and say you are a disgusting human being that is not
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acting like how jesus christ would yeah i would take how many like what jesus had smoked
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this entire actual balls to look at a person and say hey what you're doing is horrible and you need
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to stop and that's what i said i i heated me can i tell you something can i say something
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you and that how many sigs have you smoked this entire podcast and what's wrong with that you
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smoked pole that you know the entire last week well it's just crazy because like you sat here this
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entire time smoking so many sigs has that ever affected your dating life are we just going to
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glance over the brilliant i just want to know since this is a dating podcast wait what i said it since
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it's a dating podcast i just want to know because genuinely you've smoked a lot of them
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andrew has lungs of steel has what to do with what what the hell does that have to do with
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anything oh what does me what does me being a prostitute have to do with you what does me being
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a legal have to prostitute have to do with you what your your prostitution i'm not doing anything
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to live in it has to do with the perpetuation of one of the most smoking harms i can think of
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not just yourself you can't talk while the same at the same time that i talk you ask me a question
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let me give you the answer what you're doing is perpetuating one of the most horrific things
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on planet earth through that perpetuation what i've seen is the society which i live in collapsing
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around me due to degeneracy literally due to degeneracy which you are perpetuating and instead
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of us saying this is what you people are doing we go well abstractly the porn industry is actually
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very harmful what do you mean you people what you mean you people i just said what they're doing
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wait andrew you muted yourself yeah do you think they're so stupid that they think that we're not
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talking about them when we say the porn industry i can talk to a person without calling a human
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being and saying you are disgusting human being i can talk about their actions and i can bring them
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and show them light and salvation and grace and give them what jesus would give them because jesus
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did love prostitutes and brought them to salvation to follow him did he not beat him over the head
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beat him over the head of the bible he'll be right back underneath the guy next week you know it's like
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i wish at some point somebody would just call out what's going on i'll pray for you here let's uh
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i'll pray for you right now that wouldn't let's join hands calling someone disgusting doesn't you
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gotta like kind of do a spin while you do it too i think yeah because because calling somebody
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disgusting is definitely going to change our viewpoint also all you are doing is polarizing
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everybody by this kind of behavior by this kind of talk you look like an polarizing andrew good
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polarizing issue it's the same reason that you see tp usa hand over fist support homosexuality
07:11:10.320
it's the same reason they refuse to call out whoa whoa whoa whoa when when did i say when did i
07:11:16.400
say i support homosexuality when i just said that marriage is between well we're going off the rails
07:11:20.640
folks we're going off the rails we're talking about it's the end days it's anyways ruby or sorry
07:11:28.220
rose my bad ruby sorry i don't know why i can fucking holy moly the whatever podcast at the
07:11:34.520
seventh hour is getting fucking heated boys wait okay uh a couple more notes here from everybody i
07:11:40.180
want to get everybody in so you said that you uh you considered herself feminist by the way the views
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expressed by the panelists do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever podcast oh feminist in
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the sense that like i should have rights well so when i uh in our pre-show notes here you said you
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consider you could oh no you sorry you didn't consider yourself a feminist but i think you considered
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yourself feminist on some things and those two things that you cited was intersectionality
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and bodily autonomy right okay so those are the things that i do and you said other than that i'd
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say my morals are typically faith-based and conservative right by this i mean the with
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intersectionality by this i mean the experiences of women across different cultures and women as a whole
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and how they each define their perspectives on society right yeah so i'm so are you saying like
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with the bodily autonomy stuff you're pro uh pro choice is that correct i i would say yes okay and
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then i didn't really totally get the intersectionality component but let's just disregard that this the
07:12:47.660
bodily autonomy thing is somewhat related to dating just because you can get sex pregnant etc um
07:12:53.860
so you're you consider yourself a christian correct and you're faithful to your religion
07:12:58.440
well so i have a question for you if the christian faith by the word of god and in in bible oh my god
07:13:04.660
hold on yeah i know it's just tongue tied in biblical scripture and text and if the preeminent
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theologians and there were let's say there was an ecclesiastical determination that abortion is forbidden
07:13:17.620
by the tenets of the religion would you then change your stance to be pro-life um
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it's it's a topic i've grappled with i will say that the reason i do lean towards pro so sorry i'm not
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laughing at you sorry i know the reason i do lean towards pro-choice is because um there are very like
07:13:41.520
there are many arguments that you can argue within biblical context but the main reason being that
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um there's the same in the bible that says that um god blew breath into the life of adam so it's the
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argument that life begins at first breath when do you believe that life begins now i do believe there's
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a certain point in which you should be able to terminate a pregnancy and um at what point would
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you say that i would say with it has to be done within the first trimester the first trimester so
07:14:17.900
what constitute that being less of a life than after than during the second trimester because there's a
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difference in the fetus's capabilities and um and growth so do brain waves and a heartbeat classify as
07:14:33.240
life um it's a it's i would say within the cellular stage is when you should be able to
07:14:41.140
terminate it so cellular stage would be max two to three weeks at six weeks the fetus has full brain
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waves six and heartbeat at six weeks it depends it differs case to case if it's like a sa case right
07:15:00.480
then i think which i can understand cases in that but then you brought up the first breath first so
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i'll bring up you know the lord and us together in our in our mother's womb and he's known us since
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the moment of conception and that from that moment of conception that a baby's genes are entirely known
07:15:17.840
the eye color hair color everything is known that entire mapping of the baby is known at conception
07:15:23.280
but just because a life is at six weeks versus 12 weeks versus 24 weeks doesn't make the value of
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that life any less different right yeah no i i agree with you which is why i'm like very like
07:15:35.820
flexible in the sense of um terminating a pregnancy i wholeheartedly believe in sa cases like i said
07:15:44.520
like that should be but in the case where it was like you have the means to provide for the child
07:15:50.820
you're stable that it's let that you should have less to someone of lower income be able to get an
07:15:59.680
abortion more than someone of a higher income because by societal standards they may not be
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able to provide a as nice lifestyle for the child not if it's not as life and nice a lifestyle but if
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it's a lifestyle in which they would not be able to care for the child at all i mean there are options
07:16:16.580
of like adoption right or foster care as well um it's just it i to me it's case by case um does
07:16:25.720
anyone know when a baby can feel pain isn't it like eight i want to say eight to ten weeks yeah within
07:16:32.580
gestation so not that long but yeah not that long that's why a lot of people don't realize like how
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early on a human being is being developed and you know the physical even trauma that women go through
07:16:47.320
when they do go through an abortion so and even the reason i brought up the value scale of like
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somebody of a lower income versus higher income is you know are we placing value on that human being's
07:16:57.980
potential life because who's to say that the child born into a lower income family isn't gonna
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be you know one of the wealthiest men or women in the country so i don't think it's fair for
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us to place value on life when every single life is value and every single life is wanted
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uh and it's not up to us to choose abortion i mean i am pro-life conception to natural death
07:17:23.400
in all circumstances because no life is invaluable even if it is essay even if it is you know some of
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those special cases those special cases are less than one percent of all abortions in our country
07:17:34.840
and when the 99 are elective abortions for women that are using it for pure convenience
07:17:40.820
that's very unfortunate i mean millions of convenience is a little um worse cases than
07:17:49.840
than most so that's about 99 like is 99 of abortions that happen in america are due to either convenience
07:17:59.260
or because they didn't want the child so abortion should not be like a form of birth control
07:18:05.240
so i would say that's the 99 and majority of those women that are getting birth control or that are
07:18:11.320
going to get an abortion those 99 of abortions in our country is also may or may not have been on
07:18:17.020
birth control may or may not have used a condom but they're got pregnant and ended up just going and
07:18:22.380
getting abortion because they didn't want the child so that's what i mean by elective abortions
07:18:31.920
wait so you're pro choice i'm i think it goes case by case but um okay i do believe that like
07:18:42.080
the choice of the mother all right it should be taken into consideration especially in like
07:18:50.280
certain cases like i mentioned of like sure essay or okay yeah just really quick going around the
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table who are you pro-life or pro-choice i'm pro-choice pro-life pro-life pro-life pro-life
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andrew naturally naturally yeah very much pro-life okay all right last notes here for adeline adeline
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adeline let's see you wanted to talk about body positive oh my god uh body positivity what's that
07:19:25.380
about no i just i think that um we should celebrate women's bodies of all sizes and styles and that's
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pretty much it i'm not saying oh my god i'm just saying should obesity be celebrated no no at what
07:19:45.620
point do we classify obesity then whenever your mobility is limited and you can no longer walk
07:19:52.300
from here to there that should not be celebrated that would be like morbidly yeah not for like i'm
07:19:57.440
talking about like a forex who's just like i love my body i'm beautiful everyone and leave comments in
07:20:02.820
my comment section i'm a beautiful woman and so and you're gonna tell me that i'm fat and beautiful
07:20:08.480
i am not going to say that for me i encourage fitness but i also encourage body positivity and
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you can have extra weights you can be a 2x a 3x and you can still be active you can still have a fit
07:20:25.020
lifestyle that is what i believe in and that is what does uh what does body positivity mean to you
07:20:31.480
body positivity means not looking at someone and saying you are disgusting because you are fat
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that is not okay that's fucking disgusting what if they are oh that's your opinion do you think
07:20:46.240
that the body but do you think that do you think that it would be a shared opinion
07:20:50.460
how do you mean by like i don't know most people if they saw like a i don't know 300 350 pound
07:20:57.040
chicks something like that you think they might go oh that's gross that is their own inner judgment
07:21:03.420
that is their own choice to judge but what's wrong with having judgment on something that's clearly
07:21:08.420
gross and not good why shouldn't you judge you want to cast judgment on someone that you don't even know
07:21:14.040
or you don't know their circumstances that's your choice yeah well here's the thing yeah maybe it is
07:21:20.020
a choice maybe it is a choice to use judgment i assume you use judgment right well yeah yeah so
07:21:26.100
why what's the problem with somebody else using your judgment to say hey being 350 pounds that's uh
07:21:30.520
that's pretty disgusting you should probably do something about that would you go up to a person
07:21:34.540
that you saw that was fat and say you are disgusting you know are you the type of comment under people's
07:21:40.020
photos and say you are disgusting that is what i say when it comes to body positivity you do not
07:21:46.360
encourage that kind of behavior hang on hang on that's where mine comes into play i'm trying to
07:21:50.780
answer your question different stance you're still probably let me finish let me answer the question
07:21:55.840
don't prattle let me just answer your questions directly inside of the commons no i wouldn't break
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the piece by just walking over to somebody and insulting them that seems absurd yeah but that does not
07:22:07.280
mean that if some big fat chick went on social media and said hey look at me this big used chewed up
07:22:15.420
piece of bubble gum said look at me tell me i'm great oh my god sorry keep going i'm not gonna i'm
07:22:21.020
not gonna walk over or i'm not gonna be like oh yes you are that's insanity and i'm not encouraging
07:22:26.920
that either would you say well then what then what is body positivity then body positivity is whatever
07:22:32.800
it is to you like it's my definition is going to be very different from anyone else's i'm just saying
07:22:39.540
it's not right to sit here and cast judgment on someone because they do not fit your ideal
07:22:45.040
image of what a woman or man or body type should be oh that's not that's not okay if that's not
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right okay then what is it right that we're allowed to cast judgment on can we cast judgment
07:22:57.000
on anything you can cast judgment on anything that you want but it's about whenever you go
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out of your way to be disgusting and terrible to a person but aren't they going out of their way in
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order to present themselves in such a way where we're supposed to be positive about it you poor
07:23:12.560
fragile fat phobic person that it offends you that someone is fat aren't it here's the question
07:23:20.420
aren't they going out of their way to present themselves up for public scrutiny to say no
07:23:27.760
i'm big and bold and beautiful and if you put yourself out there to make that claim why shouldn't
07:23:33.940
people have the judgment value to claim otherwise that's their choice to put themselves out there
07:23:39.140
anytime you put yourself on the internet you are subjecting yourself to that kind of like just
07:23:45.060
behavior and those kinds of comments and that's that person but for me where it comes into play
07:23:49.300
is you should not you should not sit there and be fat phobic that's all i'm saying what's yeah well
07:23:56.760
no that doesn't make any sense you just got to have to make sense to you you are fat phobic
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no no by your own logic this makes no sense let me finish what i'm saying you say if you put yourself
07:24:07.840
out on the internet you're going to be subjected to ridicule i am brian is everybody at this table is we
07:24:12.640
all understand that that's true how in the world can you then say that if you put yourself out there
07:24:17.760
to be scrutinized by other people that it's wrong for them to give a judgment value on you being morbidly
07:24:24.960
obese doesn't that seem insane no no what's what's insane is literally going out of your way to
07:24:33.720
degrade somebody well you're going out of your way to present yourself as somebody who shouldn't be
07:24:38.560
degraded okay yeah but why is it okay for you to present yourself that way but the alternative
07:24:44.460
opinion of saying no that's bullshit is not just as valid as your opinion you're really losing me my
07:24:50.040
stance is yeah i know that you're i'm really losing you because you need that's because you won't pay
07:24:54.120
attention you talk more than you listen so listen thank you very much if you put yourself out and
07:25:00.180
you put a value judgment out there you say look i'm here to be scrutinized okay and then people
07:25:06.760
scrutinize you okay you're saying that i'm big and i'm beautiful and then other people say no that
07:25:12.160
shit's gross why are they wrong and you're right i didn't say that my whole point is is that you should
07:25:21.140
not literally go up to someone you should not cast that kind of judgment if someone has a few extra
07:25:27.200
pounds or that they do not conform i don't think that's what your ideal image wait morgan you had
07:25:31.760
something quick and then i have a quick question then we'll move on do you think the body positive
07:25:35.700
do you think that the body positivity movement has encouraged obesity and embracing fatness
07:25:40.740
i think that each body positivity definition can be different i think that it's not necessarily
07:25:49.000
about the weight it's about your natural appearances your stretch marks it doesn't have to do exactly
07:25:55.100
with weight it can be about your natural body and your natural but in society there's been a hyper
07:26:01.540
fixation on embracing fatness and that has been morphed into the body positivity movement where i mean
07:26:07.840
on mac on health fitness magazines you're seeing obese people and you see the health industry
07:26:13.360
encouraging people to like eat horrible foods and i mean as a society it's now just more accepted to be
07:26:19.600
fat and i'm not saying that i promote that specific narrative my narrative is that you should
07:26:25.960
appreciate a woman's natural body and and you should not cast judgment you should not be ugly towards
07:26:33.360
someone because they do not fit your ideal image but i also think a person should look like that is
07:26:38.940
it that is all but women women have let themselves go and have continued to gain weight and then expect
07:26:45.260
everyone to still say well you're beautiful instead of actually encouraging them but that's more part of
07:26:49.880
my narrative one thing one thing you said that the the initial way that you kind of framed this was
07:26:55.780
for women do you also hold the same thing for men too absolutely but if a man because you did say
07:27:02.420
for women i mean that's that's the whole hot hot topic that's the debate that's what gets
07:27:07.840
engagement is the women but men men can have whatever body they have okay let's see notice the
07:27:15.420
convenience factor of it mostly being very heavy women who also tend to promote body positivity have
07:27:22.740
you noticed that trend who are you asking you okay and i know plenty of people who do promote body
07:27:30.760
positivity who are not plus size or these extra pounds and i don't appreciate what you're
07:27:35.940
insinuating what did i insinuate i just said have you noticed that trend the reason that i think such
07:27:42.120
a trend exists is because i think that people who push that trend themselves don't like it when they hear
07:27:49.960
comments from other people saying hey we don't want this as being the normative trend in society so i think
07:27:55.180
they have a vested interest in pushing back against that by saying no this is beautiful when
07:28:00.200
it clearly isn't okay moving on gotta move on got a couple more notes here i want to try to wrap soon
07:28:07.260
okay you said you traveled solo through europe your first year doing of and tindered in prague paris
07:28:12.480
poland so you were on tinder while you were traveling yeah red flag um how many tinder dates were you on
07:28:18.780
while you were solo traveling in europe how long were you so solo traveling in europe and how many
07:28:23.040
tinder dates um so one month i did a full month in europe and i did two tender dates
07:28:32.040
just two just two oh okay it's great all right you also said uh i want to try to prompt you to say
07:28:39.980
this but you said you're pretty open but you do feel everyone should oh i feel like everyone should
07:28:47.860
get out there and date i believe that people should get out there and date and explore
07:28:53.480
what is out there so that they can decide for themselves what they want when you say that
07:29:01.040
by see what's out there and learn more about themselves do you mean get ran through by a bunch
07:29:08.580
of dudes no it doesn't have to like that does not have to include sexual stuff that does not have to
07:29:15.840
include sex it can talk about traits habits qualities mannerisms ambitions not just oh okay
07:29:25.000
all right because that's what like i'm translating i'm i'm a translator and when a woman says i want to
07:29:32.300
go explore and find myself sounds like you want to be bi i think that sounds like you want to just get
07:29:39.900
run through by a bunch of dudes and that's your personal opinion and a man does not
07:29:45.060
wait we got to hear andrew's laugh when he's at my mom and are you on push to talk andrew or
07:29:51.240
yeah no i um you know i have my my chat over here okay i don't i of course i'm not going to interrupt
07:29:57.460
the show and the good flow uh by by talking over anybody okay uh i do appreciate the the
07:30:04.440
engagement by the way i know that we have conflicting opinions but i do think that these
07:30:09.760
things need to be discussed they do yeah okay last few things here and i swear we're going to wrap soon
07:30:15.220
i swear it ladies and gentlemen okay meg back to meg really quick you got a lot here for us one of your
07:30:24.240
hot takes that you said you said men exist to serve women and you said that women created men not the
07:30:33.700
other way around that the bible states so i have two quarrels here one that men exist to serve women
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that's that's questionable and then two and i'd like perhaps i'm going to defer to
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andrew on this before i first i'll give you a chance to respond is that biblically accurate
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it's very late i'm very tired you got this i you got this um well i just bust out some what what's
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the thing that australians eat the vegemite you're chilling wax p donated 100
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curious do the moralists think being a legal escort is as damaging to society as of
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one is accessible to adults in discreet places one is online for kids to access prostitution is proven
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i would say sorry it's uh it's proven to get banned in basically every society that it's in in the west
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uh specifically because it has so many bad results and uh not only does it have bad results
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on the prostitute themselves but even on the people who are partaking the activity that's why they arrest
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both and so yes i would say you've proven over time to do what to to degradate society to make it a
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little bit worse than it was the day before yeah i would agree with that i mean 100 i would agree with
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andrew on this and i would also say in current society standards i would say only fans is worse
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due to the sheer amount of views that they're getting in children etc i'm just going to read this quick
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nickelodeon i don't know what i don't know that life has or will have value as is unfortunately displayed
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here but the potential for great life shouldn't be squandered that's from nickelodeon hey thank you man
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appreciate all your patrons that's a brilliant observation right you only get it once
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you only get it once and nobody wants to be on their deathbed saying i engaged in prostitution i
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don't i don't believe that i just don't believe it oh i don't know if that's in response to that i
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think it probably had to do with the pro-life pro-choice conversation we're having a few
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minutes i'll just put a put an extra flavor yeah sure wait scoot your mic to the edge of the table okay
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you got this i believe in you get some vegemite you got this um so i'm basically referring to like
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natural selection wait just get the mic to the very very edge if you can wait natural selection
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is an evolutionary term you're a christian okay here i'll repeat it i'll repeat it so okay you said
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men exist to serve women um let's start there and then we can address the woman created men not the
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other way around but the bible states so men exist to serve women yeah can i can i read my thing sure
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so basically i'm referring to oh my god i'm sorry okay natural selection so um women only choose men
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that do what they put your head on the other side you're getting blocked women only choose men that
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do what they can't do um men that can't get disposed of um don't get oh sorry sorry um don't get to
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carry on their genes that being said women don't select the best men right now good men are being
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disposed of women's selection process has been meddled with women's ability to bond and choose
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has been manipulated by tv movies celebrities that's what i have to say no but you gotcha can
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you can you explain the idea for the the women created men thing i'm too tired to explain that
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now it's too late you got it where's the energy drink get her and i need i have to try to catch a
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plane like at this time men but you said it's like four o'clock in the morning it's pretty late
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though um it's a very complicated you got this i believe in you oh it's gonna how complicated could
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it be it's gonna be pulled apart very easily because i don't have i don't have the the faculties
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to discuss it but um i'm just confused because i mean god created adam but then
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women came from adam's rib biblically from a biblical perspective so i don't know how i mean even
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women could make men when that's not possible from a biblical perspective and even women were
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created even eve was created to support and provide and to help adam yeah that's why it's
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a controversial thing to say because i said that i said it's not like what the bible said sir thank you
07:35:06.500
for explaining so how did um how did women create men so i guess what i'm sort of saying is when
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you're a baby it's really whatever you're a woman you're everyone's a girl first right in the womb
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you everyone everyone starts off as a female and then something everyone every baby is a is a female
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first and then you then something happens with the um you'll have to look up science i no i understand
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i understand that okay so i'm not going to dispute that i'm just curious are you saying that biblically
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you think that men came from women i think men are like created to to do stuff for women to prove
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themselves to push society and evolution forward that's why you take more risks that's why you're
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more disposable because you're meant to and women are the ones who select so the men if you don't mind
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i'm really sorry to cut you off did god create woman or man first um i think he created women first okay so
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now we get to the actual heart of it none of all the bullshit we finally cut through all the
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bullshit what what makes you believe that god created women before men i just i just kind of said
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it and i think it's going to be too confusing as morgan keeps whispering under our breath so i don't
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think i really want to talk about it okay well then can i just ask a follow-up then that's way simpler
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okay how is it that you reconcile the view of evolution with your christianity
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um i'd say i believe in god and i'm catholic leaning but i wouldn't i don't i don't go to
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church um have you been confirmed by the church yeah okay so you were baptized maybe as an infant or
07:37:06.580
something yeah okay so how do you how do you i'm still how do you reconcile these two views i wouldn't
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say i'm like uh indoctrinated like not like a completely like devout catholic i just don't
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understand i get it i get that you're not a devout catholic but did did god create man or did god
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create a single cell organism which over time evolved into all of life that's my question i would love to
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talk more about this but i think i wish we had brought it up a bit earlier in the night because
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it's seven minutes to one in the morning and i'm just going to talk gibberish i need to sleep okay so
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you don't want to address the bible one that's fine another time yeah we could have you back if you're
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down uh do you want to engage on maybe that's a complicated one to gain john but the men exist to
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serve women thing that's confusing it's kind of a similar kind of thing but it's talking about
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natural selection oh i just kind of read it i read out my point natural selection men exist to serve
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women it's isn't it like but from a religious perspective isn't it god husband uh wife children
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in that hierarchy well who knows i mean the catholic church would consider that a complete heresy that she
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claims that women were created by god first so it's like it's just it's just gibberish at this point
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they would literally consider it heretical i feel like i lose either way i feel like i try to explain
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it i'm too tired let me and then i don't say anything let me give you some credit here whoever
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steps to andrew loses anyway it doesn't matter so it's like you might as well you try your best you
07:38:48.020
give it the old college try you're gonna lose anyways it's like it's like think about it this way a
07:38:52.980
kid playing going up and debating against or sorry playing against a grandmaster in chess you're gonna
07:39:00.020
lose but you're do you're just gonna do it just for the andrew is much better at being rational and
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logical than i am so it's very hard for me to get to get my point across um yeah i just don't think
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it's gonna especially like right now i'm not sure i'm like trying to understand what you're saying i think
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i know so textually in the bible it says that adam was created and then eve was created from adam's rib
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but i think the point maybe you're trying to make is that women create men in the sense that like they
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could like grow them in the womb um is that like sort of maybe kind of i don't i'm not really anyways
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here let's uh i think she's tapped out so last question last question super quick super easy
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your theory on this does it include lilith by chance what what no it doesn't doesn't include
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lilith no is that like a diablo i'm just curious four is that diablo four sorry well i mean yeah
07:40:02.820
diet diablo did adopt a little lilith floor yeah okay all right all right cool we got this chat here
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we have my wife won the lottery j ripple dumpster fire comment about i can't even read this bro gold
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hearted hung calm tough kind straight family men larson farms chet larson and z johnson millennial
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farmer that what we're this is like middle english bro i can't fucking read this shit that we're grown
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in for the good trad gals you three out folk ankles r2 lower see you next tuesday rather play i'm i'm
07:40:36.980
actually doing a great job here uh w andrew and that was impressive i'm i'm a i'm a
07:40:45.540
fucking legend okay all right guys we're gonna wrap up the show there um let me see what other last
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things i have to do we're all caught up on that we're caught up on that gustava do you want to take
07:40:56.100
a seat here while i do my little wrap up all right guys thank you this is a perhaps our longest show
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ever so w's in the chat for that or l's in the chat for that i'm not sure which one uh let's also um i
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just say to all of you ladies who are here i don't take any of this personally i hope you don't either
07:41:15.140
my job is to provide pushback on worldviews that's what i do and i very much appreciated meeting all of
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you uh wholesome homo wholesome how nice andrew cyber yeah there we go all right so those of you
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on twitch thank you for tuning in on twitch i'm gonna see if i can raid somebody uh let me see who
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i can raid on twitch who's who's up oh we got frost adamus i think i'm gonna i'm gonna send oh stay safe
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is also hmm do i raid we're gonna raid stay safe okay all right let me start a raid there for stay safe
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yeah yep okay we're raiding him and sorry uh so if you're on twitch you might be leaving
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soon but thank you those of you watching on twitch uh oh i want to do a shout out here for nick can you
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find andrew's youtube channel let's pull that up i want to give him a shout out there uh so guys last
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you guys being uh you know good sports and staying here till the end thank you guys you guys were dope this
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was a great panel we will be live again uh we might there might be a stream on thursday but
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it's tentative possibly thursday uh we'll see but dating talk will be back sunday 5 p.m pacific and
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then again tuesday 5 p.m pacific any girls who want to be on the show dm out whatever on instagram if you
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uh did i rate it while he was gone hold on let me do let me just double check the rate here
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what do we have one sec hold on guys i'm just getting a couple things sorted here on twitch
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any final thoughts while i'm just wrapping up a few tech things here that was fun had fun oh thank
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you thank you lads lads and gentlemen uh oh let's can you pull up andrew's channel uh guys this is the
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subscribe button yeah look at look at all oh he's got some uh yeah he's got so he's been on uh
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you know whatever channel there's he does he's debated destiny and uh i gotta see that one yeah so uh
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any final does he ever win i don't think just yeah um andrew any final final thoughts no i just
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really appreciate it uh again to the whatever podcast thanks for hosting me i know you were
07:44:29.780
feeling under the uh weather and um i appreciate everybody for showing up cool yeah yeah sorry
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guys i'm just finishing up the last few things here uh one sec boys one sec and okay that's okay that's
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good okay last one boys hold on and then uh anybody morgan you want to shout out any tp usa stuff any
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any shout out turning point usa for allowing me to do this awesome job
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turning point and go sub to me on youtube and instagram yep her ig and her youtube are linked
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slash whatever um so just saying just throwing it out there right cool sweet hey gustavo have a good
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night too brother yeah all right i think we got okay we got all the twitch stuff out of the way
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i'm just want to double check did we forget anything okay we're good we're good we're good
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okay all right guys uh thank you so much for tuning in to the show guys thank you once again
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thank you to the wonderful panel oh sevens in the chat good night guys we'll see you next time