00:06:49.220Shout out to all the based homies in the whatever discord
00:06:52.840Based JC, based Jay Ekin, based Paddy, based Thor, based Mr. Drake, based Mara, slash Mike, based Jess, based Josh, based B, based Nat, and based Wiggles
00:07:02.920Thank you, based Desert Jorge, appreciate that
00:07:07.820Alright, so before we get into the relationship status
00:07:11.340I do, you know, normally I wouldn't do this
00:07:18.280it's not without a sense of irony that if you those of you who tuned in last show last week
00:07:25.520we had 13 people on the panel because what i do i i overbook i'll usually you know aim to
00:07:32.940like have 15 people on schedule a week out with the anticipation that as the show approaches you
00:07:39.780know we'll get we'll get like five six flakes you know leading up to it the day before the day of
00:07:47.200uh today and by the way i overbooked for today but unfortunately uh it was just a uh what's the0.80
00:07:56.580word like uh perfect storm i don't know just fucking everybody almost everybody except for0.95
00:08:02.460you guys uh fucking like no showed um and i'm gonna get into that here in just a moment uh0.97
00:08:11.860hold the super chats for just a moment while i'm getting through this like just take it off0.99
00:08:16.360Uh, so, um, I feel like it warrants, given the egregiousness of the flakage and the no-showingness and et cetera, et cetera, I feel like it warrants, uh, us calling these people out individually and, uh, also providing and showing their bullshit excuses.
00:08:42.480uh so i i think that's warranted under the circumstances normally i just let it go
00:08:48.420um so the first one which i find the most egregious uh well and by the way let me just
00:08:56.560make something clear guys on like five separate occasions in our comms with the people we have
00:09:03.160on the show we tell them the date we tell them the show time uh especially oftentimes we're
00:09:08.680booking people sometimes we'll be booking people kind of like you know the week of but oftentimes
00:09:13.900we're booking people weeks even months in advance um and it varies it varies but for the most part
00:09:20.780the majority of people we have booked are booked like weeks out weeks out so we send five remind
00:09:26.660like there's a total of five um points where we you know confirm we we sent out initial show
00:09:34.500information. We ask for initial confirmation. A week out, we send like the show information.
00:09:40.580Like midweek, we send a midweek reminder. We send a day before reminder and we send a day of
00:09:46.980reminder. And man, people are just not reliable. So I'm going to show you some of the bullshittery.
00:09:57.580I only had time to take screenshots of some of the messages, but we'll show you each individual
00:10:02.020person. Uh, so the first one we're going to pull up was a, a no show. Uh, go ahead, pull that one
00:10:09.120up, Tiffany. All right. So Jocelyn Silva, uh, she just straight up no showed. And so we called her,
00:10:20.260we called her up and we're like, Hey, uh, and I think we had, you two were there. You witnessed
00:10:27.440missed my frustrated phone call. So I call her up and she actually picks up. I was actually
00:10:33.740surprised. And she says that, oh, what did she, well, she said that at 3 a.m. she had to drive
00:10:43.220her mom to the hospital. And that in, at that moment though, she was, I heard the TV on in
00:10:49.680the background. She was babysitting two children. Now, mind you, she didn't tell us. I had to call
00:10:58.880her. So our meet time is 4 p.m. Our meet time's 4 p.m. I called her at like 4.15, 4.20. She had
00:11:07.640not sent any message. She didn't take like five, 10 seconds to just message us and say, hey,
00:11:12.800I'm sorry. I had an emergency. Something happened. I'm not going to be able to make it.
00:11:17.800she didn't do that and she claims that she you know had to take her mom to the hospital which
00:11:23.100is a lie she was babysitting some kids which i don't know the truth of that but what we do know
00:11:29.940is uh that she was posting as you can see she has some stories active there and uh so um go ahead
00:11:39.960so this was two hours ago hold on so she she says she didn't have time to take you know it takes 10
00:11:46.840seconds to send a message and just say, hey, I'm not, look, I'm not coming. Even, hey, you know
00:11:52.540what? You could just be like, you know what? Fuck your podcast. I don't like it. I'm not coming.
00:11:56.200So two hours ago, so our call time's 4 p.m. It's currently 5 30 p.m. now. Now, so this,
00:12:01.560she probably took this at like 3 p.m., 2 p.m. She never told us. She never reached out. She
00:12:07.280didn't send a message that she wasn't coming. Her excuses she had in emergency, yet she had time to
00:12:13.220post stories to her Instagram. She has time to take a video and then post it. And then think of
00:12:19.020the retarded caption she's going to post and then put all those filters on it. So she doesn't look
00:12:22.960ugly. So, uh, go ahead and play hit play there. So she posts a story two hours ago. Oh, wait,
00:12:30.300whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. What the fuck? Okay. Uh, I don't know what happened
00:12:34.560there. Uh, you're going to have to X out, like close that one down. Close. Just, just that page.
00:12:39.960okay just that one though okay tiffany yeah all right pull it back up
00:12:45.740yeah she deleted it wait wait no did you close the the the oh okay so this is her she has a
00:12:53.240poetry page so she also had the time to her second alt instagram account she didn't have time to take
00:13:00.06010 seconds to be like hey i'm not gonna make it sorry she had time to post some like retarded
00:13:04.020poetry okay cool uh tab over next okay so that's the one of the stories she took tab over
00:13:11.380because i guess she took she privated uh i'm a woman that knows what i'm going to name my kids
00:13:17.280i live on my own and pay my own bills i know what i want of course i'm not easy now she posted this1.00
00:13:23.880she had time to post this retarded shit uh but she didn't have time to message us she's a fucking1.00
00:13:31.340liar she's a fucking scumbag uh tab over there's one more she had time to she had time to post this1.00
00:13:37.580i guess so she had time to post all this shit how do you have time first off she's obviously lying1.00
00:13:46.280about the emergency how do you it's total bullshit by the way you got i don't know if you guys were0.99
00:13:51.380listening uh you guys were listening um did she apologize did she say sorry not once what did she0.98
00:13:59.300say she was annoyed through the whole thing and then she was gonna speak into the mic she was
00:14:03.620annoyed through like the whole conversation like you were putting her out to call her out for her
00:14:08.380crap i was like i was like hi hey this is uh we're calling here from the whatever podcast just0.94
00:14:13.360checking in are you coming and she was like oh uh no i was like okay well and then i think i said0.97
00:14:21.500something like okay well you it's 4 20 the call time was four you're coming from la you would
00:14:27.640have had to you would have known two hours ago if you weren't coming you could have taken 10
00:14:32.640seconds to just say and she was like you know I should have done that she said something like
00:14:37.640you know you're right you're right I should have done that
00:14:41.540the next words maybe I'm sorry no she didn't say sorry and then I was like well what uh what's the
00:14:49.660deal and then like she was like well wait hold on and then hung up on me so like oh I'll hold
00:14:56.940the whole hang up so uh pull back up her instagram though like the you might have to go back a few0.99
00:15:04.080tabs so look i mean she's a piece of shit um go ahead pull it up yeah uh jocelyn silva1.00
00:15:13.980fucking scumbag fucking terrible person fucking piece of shit um and uh1.00
00:15:20.460let's see let's see that dumb ass story again uh you tab over next one next one1.00
00:15:28.660i'm a woman that knows what i'm going to name my kids oh my god you're so you're such a terrible0.99
00:15:34.760person i'm like should i say it chat um i don't honestly this person is so bad i don't think she
00:15:43.720should procreate to be honest like if you don't if you're i think she's i don't know in her mid
00:15:48.340twenties. If you are in your mid twenties and you don't have the courtesy to just be like,
00:15:58.920take 10 seconds when you've agreed to do something and just be like, Hey, I'm not, I'm not coming.
00:16:08.360Look, you could throw in an apology in there, but at least tell the person, Hey, I'm not coming.
00:16:14.640now there's no there was no emergency she was posting instagram stories i'm sorry your mom's
00:16:21.460in the hospital you're babysitting kids you got time to post stories but you don't have time to1.00
00:16:26.500take 10 seconds to message and tell someone you have an appointment with so you don't fuck their1.00
00:16:31.620production over not that i don't you know there's the fucking black baby and the fucking pink-haired1.00
00:16:36.640ashley saint whore and fucking kiki over not that i don't mind it i'm just saying all right now1.00
00:16:43.460that's one of the seven voice crack that's one of the seven motherfuckers who pulled some bullshit1.00
00:16:52.160today next that's one fuck her now this is samantha wheeler who i attempted to call her1.00
00:17:04.220but she just no showed complete no show uh so samantha wheeler she's a content creator she's0.99
00:17:11.820an international, multi-published, petite model. Scroll down a little bit. I just want
00:17:19.160to see, you know, anybody, you know, everyone's calling them. Keep going. Scroll down. Everyone's
00:17:26.440a model. I mean, do you think she has? I don't think she has the chops, to be honest. She
00:17:33.060does not have oh my god put that away god damn put oh my sorry um0.98
00:17:40.120no i tried to call i was like hey you coming she didn't no answer no no no what's it called0.97
00:17:49.120no call no show she didn't hey i'm sorry i'm not coming we sent reminders today yesterday the day
00:17:56.880like uh the day before we had her we've had her on schedule since hold on let me look we had her
00:18:03.520on schedule for like a month i think i think it was a month let me check and uh yeah man so that's
00:18:12.240that's number two that was the number two no show uh that we had so i'm trying to see if i can find
00:18:18.820it but samantha wheeler look if you're in los angeles and you're trying to book a woman who
00:18:24.160looks like she does crack cocaine and like overdoses like every other week i mean maybe
00:18:30.440she's your girl yeah we had her on schedule we we booked her march 11th it's april 12th she was on
00:18:38.520schedule for a month 30 days she was on schedule march 27th sent a reminder april 3rd sent the
00:18:46.940show information uh thursday sent it a reminder saturday sent a reminder sent a reminder today
00:18:53.940so okay that was a no show that was a no show by the way this is going to relate to dating
00:18:59.160because this is how people operate this is how people move this is how people are and it could
00:19:05.920be business it could be friends it could be you're dating people have no respect for time anymore
00:19:12.260I partially blame well social media but I blame this a lot but uh I remember look I don't know
00:19:19.560if I'm, we do have some older women here. We got, uh, you're 50, you're 41. I'm 36. Mason,
00:19:24.580how old are you? Uh, 29 turning 30. And you're 28. So I don't know, maybe you guys might be on
00:19:28.840the younger side, but I remember when I was a kid and I was a fucking seven, when I was a seven0.65
00:19:34.700year old, if I told my friend, Hey, we're meeting at the handball courts. I was at the fucking0.98
00:19:40.260handball courts. I don't care. I could be fucking, if I was sick, I'm showing up, I'm showing up. I1.00
00:19:46.180can't leave my friend waiting at the handball courts we're gonna play tetherball or some shit0.98
00:19:51.060we're gonna fuck i don't know so it's like it's become way too common to just0.98
00:19:58.360it's been very common to just cancel plans last minute i don't know i'm a no g i'm a no g0.99
00:20:07.120you don't fucking do that you say you're gonna be somewhere you're gonna be you you show up0.99
00:20:11.680next person fuck samantha wheeler pull up pull her up again let me just talk some more shit1.00
00:20:19.740real quick but then next person fuck samantha guys this this woman is completely unreliable1.00
00:20:26.100if you want to book somebody you don't want to deal with her she will not show up she won't give0.99
00:20:31.660you you don't don't waste your production if there's any bookers out there in fucking los0.98
00:20:36.800Angeles. Do not, don't book this woman. She's, she's going to fuck your production up. You're1.00
00:20:41.720going to get a fucking, and Hey, look, we, we can roll with the punches a little bit because we got1.00
00:20:46.000a panel show, but you're, you're in LA. You're going to, you're trying to book a zombie shoot.1.00
00:20:50.940Like you're, you're doing the walking dead in Los Angeles and you're trying to book this chick.
00:20:54.920You don't even got to put her in makeup. Like she's already good to go. She's good to go as
00:21:01.000a zombie. She's already good to go, but I'm maybe don't book her. There's a, there's other people
00:21:06.080in LA who need the work. She doesn't need to make, she's already set. You don't need to put
00:21:11.840the zombie face on her. She's already a zombie. Okay, next. Uh, this girl apparently, so okay,0.97
00:21:19.920she, she, this one, Rocky, Raquel, old soul, fucking dumb soul. I'll tell you that much.1.00
00:21:27.900She, uh, so this is what she did here. Why did I post it in the discord? I might have you
00:21:33.060one sec. I might have put it in the discord. I do have the, the, the DM in the discord. Go ahead.
00:21:38.900Pull, pull up the discord. And then, so three 50. No, no, no, no. Okay. Here. Three 55.
00:21:45.380Our meet time is 4 PM. Three 55. Go ahead. Pull it up. Pull it up. Guys, this is what I'm dealing
00:21:52.480with. This is what I'm dealing with every fucking week. Hey, I'm having our meet time is 4 PM.0.99
00:21:58.500hey I'm having some car issues right now
00:22:01.080and I think it's going to hinder me from coming
00:28:08.020Okay, yeah. So she claimed she was in a catastrophic car accident and let me know. When did she let me know? Pull up the Discord really quick. You know what? Never mind. Just to move it on.
00:29:33.120I'm going to blast through the rest of these so we can actually get to the show because it's probably – I'm beating a dead horse at this point.
01:06:45.940What about your respective, was there a distribution of any, he paid you, you paid him, in terms of settling the community property or whatever?
01:06:56.840there was quite a bit of that so there's like a lump sum payment or yes in which direction
01:07:03.980um from you to him or him to you i gave him a house i remodeled the whole thing
01:07:10.380and he moved into it so wait he got the house in the divorce no i kept my house that i built
01:07:20.000oh um but i flip houses slash build ground up and so one of the houses that i was flipping at the
01:07:26.940time was in my same city and so instead of flipping it i just said why don't you just
01:07:33.580keep this house and move into it oh okay so you gave him a house yes and in terms of
01:07:41.840any sort of distribution of uh resources or money or i gave him property yeah oh you
01:07:49.900paid him money too yes did he give you anything or no no so you were the breadwinner in the
01:07:57.100relationship primary yes primary breadwinner he was working but you made more yes but you know
01:08:02.620it's i didn't hate him we didn't have we have three children together we know that um he's
01:08:11.640gonna be in my life forever you know even when they're 18 you know they're gonna get married
01:08:16.760they're going to have grandkids. So I know that if at any given point, uh, he's struggling
01:08:24.520financially, my kids are going to feel that. And I never wanted them to feel that. Okay. That's
01:08:30.160pretty, pretty reasonable, I would say. Um, so you guys were married for 15 years, you said? Yes.
01:08:37.720What was he doing for work? Uh, he's also in the real estate related field, but you were better.
01:08:43.540I was in a more commissionable slash self-employed state, yes.
01:08:48.720He was more of a W-2 paycheck type of person.
01:08:53.040Now, so if you had to do like a multiplier, how much more were you out earning in buy 2x?
01:09:05.120On a slow year, on a good year, 5 or 6x.
01:22:40.180But I think a lot of people don't have that foundation.
01:22:43.380They're very quick to just discard and move on to the next shiny thing.
01:22:45.840Well, and the thing is, I think faith, the biblical point of view, is foundational.
01:22:54.460But we see that through statistical analysis, how quickly women can move into a new relationship.
01:23:01.620And it seems like they're just totally fine versus men.
01:23:04.820I mean, I've seen about a billion Instagram reels.
01:23:08.160of men talking about how like i've been i've divorced they're not divorced broke up with
01:23:13.260this chick five years ago and i'm still not over it um i mean obviously that's like case by case
01:23:18.240but statistically speaking that is accurate because you've also like you use the like
01:23:22.100gone into another relationship i think maybe that's where some of my mindset differs a little
01:23:26.980bit too it's not so as like um like he'll get into another relationship quickly but he's like
01:23:32.680willing to like be with someone else whether it's like physically like quicker yeah well yeah in my
01:23:37.900Yeah, and I'm not suggesting that just because you get into a relationship really quickly, it means that you've healed from your last one.
01:23:45.600I think the vast majority of people who, I mean, pretty much every single person who has gotten out of a relationship and jumps into a new one immediately,
01:23:54.040like, they're trying to heal the pain that they feel by, I don't know, with that new person.
01:24:00.260And essentially ruining the future with this new person.
01:24:03.320And it actually, I mean, it hurts them as well along that process.
01:24:06.860yeah 100 yeah so i gotta say um i was pretty miserable in my marriage for the last two years
01:24:14.640that it lasted and women the reason why women move on really fast is because women will literally
01:24:22.820stay in a relationship until there was nothing left like i tried everything every stone was
01:24:29.280turned over twice and looked at over and over and then you're just numb there's nothing left
01:24:36.820and you just it's time to go and that's when you know when when you would rather live in a cardboard
01:24:42.020box tend to sit in that house for five more seconds you're like this it's just done and
01:24:47.580there's a there's a whole big difference in a scorned divorce and an amicable divorce i know
01:24:53.100lots of people who have divorced just like her they just fell out of it they still loved each
01:24:57.880other but it didn't work they hacked everything they moved on and then i have friends that were
01:25:01.980cheated on that were like i'm gonna take i'm i'm gonna take everything i can get my hands on it
01:25:06.760It depends on what leads up to the divorce, I think, of how it plays out.
01:25:11.140Regardless of sex roles, it's just your mindset going into it.
01:25:16.360Yeah, well, I mean, I understand there are circumstances.
01:25:19.860Yes, I know those circumstances that do happen.
01:25:23.400However, I mean, statistically speaking, it's usually men that will last the longest in a relationship.
01:25:29.220They will go through, like, they realize they're held to that standard, that provider and protector role.
01:25:34.340and they will hold to that even though they are absolutely miserable i know there are times when
01:25:39.040men will initiate a divorce but statistically speaking what is it like 70 to 80 percent of
01:25:44.600divorces are initiated by women yeah i think you're correct on that yeah so like men will
01:25:49.440they will literally yeah they would rather die in with that family unit still intact
01:25:55.580versus i'm gonna go try to find something else but i feel like even though they are miserable
01:26:00.880the reason why women initiate more too is because what you're saying like men will just stay in it
01:26:05.340yeah but like a lot of them will then end up being unfaithful or this not because like they would
01:26:10.120rather go cheat and disrespect versus like just ending the relationship so it almost like takes
01:26:15.220the woman to get to the point of like you know what okay like i'm for them to leave the man well
01:26:20.300i think this also comes into um the understanding of like so women's brains are very emotional i
01:26:25.820I think in men's brains, we see things black and white, very rationally based versus like
01:26:31.900in the moment, I'm not saying women have no rationality, but generally speaking, their
01:26:51.280But anyway, so the reason I think the divorces are initially or so much overwhelmingly initiated by women is that they base their decisions on emotion.
01:27:05.940Like today or like over the last, let's say, two, three years, I felt terribly about this marriage.
01:27:12.780I would rather live in a cardboard box because I feel awful.
01:27:15.460well and then i'm going to base my decision on that even though i know this is going to be
01:27:22.140splitting up the home for these four or five children and it's going to ruin their life but
01:27:27.600emotionally i feel terrible whereas men like we see it very rationally where we look at okay yes
01:27:34.580i feel terrible like those emotions do occur for men as hard as that is to believe i can feel
01:27:39.660terrible but i look at that emotion but then i look at the rational but i'll be destroying our
01:27:47.140family that we've built i can't let that happen because i i know the the terribly rigorous
01:27:53.340stress trauma uh that it's going to bring upon our family it's going to ruin it it's going to
01:27:59.500tear our children apart i know the statistics of like the the children who are in a divorced
01:28:04.480household i know the terrible stuff that comes out of that so i need to make sure i hold this
01:28:08.700together even though i will be miserable till the day i die those people are more important than
01:28:14.020myself and i'm not saying that every man is thinking that like consciously subconsciously
01:28:19.380that is usually the motivation motivation or motivating factor for why they try to hold that
01:28:24.940family together because they are held to the standard of that provider and protector yeah
01:28:30.640i mean it's absolutely valid like a lot of people like you said where they consider like the whole
01:28:36.360like kids and everything i think that's sometimes where it splits too is like um like the role model
01:28:43.140aspect of like is it better to show your children to stay in a marriage you're unhappy and just
01:28:47.700to so like they'll be okay for the moment like until they're like pretty much out of your house
01:28:53.580or is it better for you to show your children like hey like if you're not getting what you
01:28:57.360deserve on both sides male or female it's better for you to walk away and go find what you deserve
01:29:02.740yeah you have to model the relationship because then you're gonna so do you really want to so I
01:29:07.940guess pushing back a little bit do you really want to show them that like splitting up this
01:29:13.520divinely instituted relationship is what you should do I feel like if like okay circumstance
01:29:21.640right like if I'm in this marriage it's not working and we've like gone to counseling and
01:29:27.300we've done all these things to like put the work in and it's still not working or one person's still
01:29:31.540not getting treated the way they deserve then like i would be okay with my child seeing that
01:29:36.460like hey if you put in everything you could and it's still not working because one or both are
01:29:41.680not putting in the effort then like there's a point when you have to walk away but yeah if
01:29:45.980you're just saying like oh well like i'm unhappy right now he's not you know whatever this person's
01:29:50.180whatever but isn't walk away then yeah that's fine well so like but isn't the i'm not happy
01:29:55.000with this like just saying uh we've tried to go to counseling stuff like that but it's not working
01:30:00.240out isn't that really just the what's underlying all of those statements i'm just not very happy
01:30:04.800with this person and you're just trying to usually just trying to make up something to
01:30:09.120justify why we need to end this relationship well i feel like if you've done counseling you've
01:30:13.920actually like had the proper channels of communication to try to figure out how to
01:30:17.660make each other happy and you still have found zero conclusion like where do you i mean where
01:30:22.080do you go from that point like i'm asking i mean i have some thoughts uh at least on this general
01:30:29.300topic um going back to you so okay you got divorced uh when did you guys split up uh end of
01:30:38.2402024 so uh two years ago or one and a half years ago one and a half years ago wait hold on
01:30:46.220wait wait wait wait wait uh like divorced or like separated separated where he we were not sharing
01:30:58.220the same bedroom anymore. A year and a half ago. Correct. And that's why it's not healthy for the
01:31:03.040kids to see that. Hold on. But the divorce was finalized when? 2025. 2025. And, but you were
01:31:12.420separated a year and a half ago. Correct. Do you know what month about? Around December of 2024.
01:31:20.800Okay. Now, so it's April now. So a year, a year and four months. Yeah. We were living pretty
01:31:26.800parallel lives before that parallel lives like we weren't we would never come together really
01:31:32.200um okay until i asked him to you know i think it's better if he moved downstairs now you said
01:31:38.060you were in a relationship for one year 11 months that's sort of may of 2025 okay um how did you
01:31:47.480meet that guy uh one of my long long time friends he was actually at my wedding introduced me to him
01:31:55.600and said um there might be some vibes here um wait introduced go ahead he he said you know why
01:32:04.920don't you um he's like man dating in la is awful you know these these guys are not it they like
01:32:13.520want to be chased they wanted they want the woman to text first like okay princess what's your shoe
01:32:18.780size like you know don't it's so my friend he's like man um and he's uh in a more conservative
01:32:30.720part of town he's like I'm gonna I'm gonna introduce you to this person I'm just gonna
01:32:36.700make the introduction um and if you can get him I will bow down to you I think he's an unattainable
01:32:46.120guy wait the i'm a bit confused the guy who you're currently with uh-huh was introduced to me by one
01:32:55.280of my best friends he was at your wedding he was at my wedding wait your best friend who did the
01:33:00.340introduction yes one of my one of my very good friends the guy guy the guy you're currently with
01:33:06.260yes was he the one who was at your wedding no he was not at my wedding the guy that was at my
01:33:13.220wedding introduced me to my boyfriend so you didn't know him the guy who you're currently with
01:33:20.200no idea who he was okay never met him he basically just did a here i'm gonna show you uh he had
01:33:28.580talked they had like bonded over their divorces and stuff like that and he said uh you know why
01:33:36.560don't you take my friend out and he said oh no i'm not interested in women like they're a bunch
01:33:41.080of trouble he goes here how about now and he's like okay maybe I'll take her out and uh I was
01:33:50.820just gonna go on a date like one date because it's but so you were like what six this is uh
01:33:58.660six months post separation that you met this yes
01:34:03.780and you were married you were together with this guy for 20 years correct married for 15
02:07:29.960Never. Look at me. Never. Never. You promise? You pinky promise? Hand to God. I never was unfaithful. No. No, that's gross to me. I can't. You can't step out like that and come back to the marriage. That's disgusting.
02:08:10.080uh he'd want to channel surf and be sometimes he'd fall asleep downstairs but no matter what
02:08:17.840happened i would always go downstairs to have that closeness with him oh okay so i was exhausted i
02:08:25.780would fall asleep on the couch but he'd wake me up at like midnight or one like it's time to go
02:08:30.760upstairs to go to bed did you ever as you were as he was about to fall asleep did you ever say the
02:08:38.060following uh hey can we talk like right before he's trying to go to bed no
02:08:45.820okay you know that pisses me off so much when uh i'm like trying to fall asleep and she had all day
02:08:57.420he had all fucking day to say this he's like i'm literally i'm i'm going into uh what's it called
02:09:05.860I'm not REM, but I'm, I'm going into that twilight phase. I'm like about, you ever have0.95
02:09:13.500those, like, where you jerk yourself? Like, like I'm, I'm basically there, right? But0.58
02:09:19.420instead of like, it just, my body doing something retarded, it's my girlfriend doing that. Instead
02:09:26.460of like just my body jerking me out, it's my, do you want, can we talk? I'm like, I don't
02:09:33.700know i just don't think women you got to bring that shit up at 3 p.m you can't bring shit i don't1.00
02:09:40.160care how pissed you are you stuff that shit deep down as a woman stuff it down there hopefully you1.00
02:09:48.460know by the time you wake up you've already you're just saying whatever i don't even care1.00
02:09:52.660wait for a bet women gotta wait for better moments to like bring us shit you know like0.96
02:09:58.720For example, I would tell a girlfriend, like, if it's a Saturday or Sunday, even a Monday, like, for the days I do my show, I do my shows on Sundays.0.99
02:10:09.620I don't want any friction on a Saturday the day before because I'm doing work.
02:13:02.660We don't get a lot of appreciation for what we go through when y'all are pregnant.
02:13:07.520and we go through a lot when you guys are pregnant and i do think that truth be told
02:13:14.880um i don't know there are maybe a woman maybe there is a lot of men who do go through a lot
02:13:22.860with a pregnant wife if they're actually like attentive and like absolutely it's a lot because
02:13:29.000you're taking on someone's empathy that i mean truth be told she if if i'm you know like you
02:13:34.740guys have cravings when you're pregnant right like yeah you want that chocolate ice cream you
02:13:39.200want ice cream i personally think you know it say the woman's water just broke but i'm craving like
02:13:45.760some cookies or something i think she should go before she goes to the hospital she should go get
02:13:53.160me what i'm craving with the water breaking like right after the water breaking i think that that's0.96
02:14:01.140ideal but we do have a chat here from bob sorry for the delay not gay women just frustrate me on
02:14:07.140how much standards they want tall guy 18 18 figure salary what is that like that's not i i don't even0.98
02:14:14.580that's beyond trillion uh well beyond trillion pisses me the fuck off thank you ladies for0.98
02:14:22.160making me the 40 year old disabled obese man wait is he talking about me wait what0.99
02:14:27.180no i think he's talking about himself yeah he's talking about he's a disabled
02:14:31.540well bob if given the bob i'm gonna have to grift a little bit here you 18 figure salary uh we have
02:14:41.960some champagne bottles that need to be popped it's a thousand dollar to pop a champagne bottle
02:14:47.040uh and some of those are going to expire soon so it's not that i'm even i'm just looking out for
02:14:52.440the expiration date on the champagne. Not that I'm trying to, you know, get money from you or
02:14:57.160anything. Uh, so if you could just do us a favor, uh, but okay, so hold on. Um, wait, let me, I do
02:15:03.820need to move things on a little bit off this topic and try to get into some other stuff, but okay,
02:15:07.820there's no cheating. Uh, I guess the only other thing I wanted to touch on is you said that women
02:15:14.860move on quicker. Yes, because we'll stay in a relationship until the men move on quicker,
02:15:21.680No, I think men will process it maybe like six months after the split up.
02:15:27.600That's when it really starts to hit them when you have memories of the stuff you guys did together and it starts to really, really hit you with real life stuff.
02:15:37.040But women will stay in a relationship when she's like yelling at you and trying to like rile you up, like wake up, like she's in it.
02:56:01.800What is the negative of, like, women having tattoos, though, like, in a man's opinion?
02:56:06.880In a man's opinion, I would probably say when I see a woman who has tattoos, it generally suggests to me that she makes permanent decisions off of how she feels in the moment.
02:56:20.540Like, I feel like I really want to get this tattoo right now because I just really feel it.
02:56:35.240Yeah, and so when I see a woman with tattoos, I see that she makes illogical decisions in the moment based off of her emotions, and it's a permanent decision.
02:57:08.780So you're making a permanent decision off of an emotional.
02:57:11.240There are plenty of relationships I've been in that if I would have made the emotional decision, I'd probably be married today.
02:57:17.260But I put those emotions aside and made the, I think, right and logical decision by putting my emotions aside and making the hard choice to not continue with the relationship.
02:57:28.340So you're saying that logic and emotion don't ever play hand-in-hand when you're making an impermanent decision?
03:00:47.200Like if I'm looking online and I'm trying to get a massage or something and I'm like looking at three different providers and one of them is super clean cut and has no tattoos versus I see somebody who does have tattoos, I'm going to pick the person who has no tattoos.
03:04:17.380So, like, why does someone get a tattoo?
03:04:19.200Like, I would probably assume and probably be correct in my assumption that the people who get tattoos aren't consciously thinking,
03:04:25.380okay i'm a degenerate person therefore i must go get tattoos because i'm short-sighted and blah
03:04:30.500blah no i'm i'm thinking that like what motivates them to get those tattoos to become not a skin
03:04:36.300virgin is they have these subconscious devils that they have not faced yet and they haven't
03:04:43.740healed from or conquered i want to say so i mean it's it's not again it's just not conscious
03:04:49.000thought? Mine was from a healing. I used to weigh 396 pounds and, um, I made some big changes in my
03:04:57.220life. And the one on my foot is just reminds me, I'm not going back there. So if I ever look down
03:05:04.240and I see this, I know you're laughing. No, sorry. I was laughing. I wasn't laughing at you.
03:05:09.220Okay. I was like, really? But when I look down and I see that on my foot, I'm like, don't look
03:05:14.060down get it together you know you you you have overcome something i overcame stage four terminal
03:05:20.080liver disease you know like i've had a lot of stuff happen and a lot of thought went into that
03:05:25.780and i did it in my 40s and it was um cathartic it was like an end to what was and a reminder of what
03:05:36.760was going to be if that makes sense yeah but again like you i mean you're not trying to flaunt that
03:05:43.100to the world because you're having a spot that's not typically seen yeah and so like yeah so i mean
03:05:47.920i like so you're one of the exceptions to this rule like technically speaking i would still
03:05:53.700prioritize a skin virgin but i get you're like one of the exceptions to the rule i as far as the
03:06:00.600tattoos go i would say do you have tattoos i'm a skin virgin yes i would say like for most men
03:06:09.220Now, there are some men who have fetishes.
03:06:11.240There are some men who maybe they have a tattoo, so maybe they view it as, like, a commonality where it can kind of get into a potentially a positive.
03:06:20.520I would say, though, at least for me, that tattoos are at best neutral or negative.
03:06:29.100There's never – so when I say neutral, it's like I tolerate.
03:06:34.720Like, there's never a woman I've ever seen with a tattoo.
03:06:37.400not just to be clear tattoos are not deal breakers although some like if she's fully blasted it's
03:06:45.200probably like i don't have tattoos like she's it's probably we're so different it wouldn't work
03:06:50.600or whatever not necessarily i mean maybe it could but like we don't see a tattoo and it gets us
03:06:55.900going yeah like i guess it depends it depends a little bit on placement what the tattoo is how
03:07:03.640many tattoos she has it's like a scale i would say it's a spectrum of acceptability so like okay
03:07:10.720she has a heart tattoo on her inner ankle and that's the only tattoo she has honest like
03:07:17.780to me that's totally neutral now would i like slightly prefer her to not have it sure but like
03:07:26.480i i don't really care that much um but would it be better if she didn't have it sure but it would
03:07:31.920be like i don't know how can i what's the thing i can compare to okay your boyfriend makes
03:07:38.440250 000 a year it would be nicer if he made 255 000 a year but it's it's like that's the increment
03:07:50.500it's like okay he's an extra five thousand dollars is like if he's making 250 000 a year
03:08:55.960She's got, like, tattoos that communicate something, actually.1.00
03:08:58.900Like, for example, like, if somebody has an MS-13 gang tattoo, like, that does say something, like, about you, either your current state or your past affairs.
03:09:31.560They do show correlation with higher levels of risky behavior, drinking, drugs, criminal activity, sexual promiscuity.
03:09:40.520There is a correlation, particularly with like certain types or placements, neck, face tattoos.
03:09:50.160There's a professional social image component.
03:09:53.680Now, I don't know if you're like a corporate businessman or you're an attorney or you're going to these functions where not that I do these things,
03:10:04.920But where you're like bringing your wife and they're meeting the CEO and your wife is like blasted in tattoos that could have like in those professional settings that could have an impact.
03:10:18.580There's also just an incompatibility with aesthetics, like aesthetically, you might just be like, I don't think it looks good.
03:10:27.680And it could signal narcissism or attention seeking.0.83
03:10:32.180so all right sorry to pound on you guys for fucking 20 minutes i guess but i feel like we're0.97
03:10:40.360sitting down from most tatted to least well yeah you got the butterfly the the do you have any0.98
03:10:47.280other tattoos or is it just those i have this one and then i have one here also and then one on my
03:10:55.260ankle yeah so like i wouldn't say you're like you're definitely pretty close on the spectrum
03:11:02.740there like you're like okay so like no no tattoos to like whoa that's i mean you what's the style
03:11:13.680called where it's just like fucking just work you have the patchwork yes yeah so i mean this one
03:11:20.320here you got the one there uh do you have like the lip one no on the lip do you have any on your0.85
03:11:27.640fingers oh i i guess the hand one yeah i got the hand one yeah i mean it's uh0.97
03:11:34.300i've seen worse obviously like there's people who are just fucking of course yes like super0.91
03:11:43.360blasted you're not quite there yet but it's definitely a preference but i do regret all
03:11:48.160of mine and I want to get them removed and I do plan to but it's not like an easy thing and
03:11:53.900I'm scared and I think that kind of speaks to what she was saying like you know she didn't put
03:11:59.000as much thought into it right where versus like you and I were like we said like there was so
03:12:04.960much thought that went into it and it was like healing cathartic where it's like I'm and it's
03:12:09.420like people I love so I'm never going to regret honoring the people I love you know versus well
03:12:14.680Yeah, there's varying degrees of the reasons.
03:12:17.780When I was younger, I wanted to get tattoos.
03:12:20.100But one rule I put on it was, if I still want it in a year, I'll get it.
03:12:24.580And if I don't, and I never wanted it.
03:15:08.880I'd prefer my, my girlfriend or whatever down the road.
03:15:12.460When we have kids, she doesn't have to work, but I also want her to be, uh, responsible
03:15:19.220financially, especially if it's my money that she's spending.
03:15:24.500um so for me when i see a woman who's like clearly has mental health issues when it comes to
03:15:33.780plastic surgery like i just think okay every couple years it's going to be a ten thousand dollar
03:15:40.400surgery like i could afford it but no you're not getting it so even if she wanted it even
03:15:48.520if i could afford it no that money can be better spent do you have hobbies that you spend money on
03:15:56.340our money it would be her money because she's it's i think relationships are a hundred a hundred
03:16:03.100well i'm not i'm never getting married so yeah it's always going to be my money it's always
03:16:07.600going to be my money but and a traditional christian woman is going to be okay with never
03:16:11.160getting i'm not christian okay yeah i didn't know that but uh you know it's i mean some of
03:16:16.320these christian women are i i want to do air quotes though christian women most of them are
03:16:23.160completely if they're into you they're just they get completely bulldozed like they just0.99
03:16:31.240they claim one thing and i'm waiting until marriage and then they're fucking like i mean0.99
03:16:39.080not all christian women to be clear there's a lot of hypocritical christians i agree but0.99
03:16:44.340uh yeah i mean i'm not getting married i mean i do agree like you know when you are married right0.94
03:16:53.380like it's an hour thing especially if you're following that gender role of like okay he's
03:16:58.180the one that's going to be working then like it's an hour situation but a good woman is going to
03:17:01.920have standards and most 90s i don't know what percentage it is but
03:17:06.640a vast majority of the good women that you want are going to expect marriage
03:17:11.460um i disagree with that to a degree of course an unwillingness to get married uh definitely will
03:17:20.380close the door for uh perhaps i don't know the percentage i would assign to it uh but there's
03:17:27.720plenty of i think um good virtuous women who would make for good girlfriends good mothers
03:17:34.680well there are some people who are meant for singleness like that's like in the bible like
03:17:38.320some people are i'm not talking about being single no i just mean like that's like unmarried
03:17:43.400like in when you're talking biblically like single like a singleness like god can give to
03:17:48.860a singleness because like you're not meant to be tied to like that rib or that person like you have
03:17:53.480a different purpose but it's not what i'm talking about so um yeah that's so i can have a long-term
03:18:02.720girlfriend stay with her forever being monogamous have seven children with her
03:18:07.960what changes huh he essentially wants marriage just without the government contract right
03:18:16.140yeah yeah i can have so all those things in marriage the children the family i can have
03:18:23.660all those absent marriage why does the government contract scare you so much or
03:18:28.700you don't like, you dislike it so much? Yeah. I mean, primarily just, uh, financial liability
03:18:34.660and I don't need the government involved. The government is retarded. Um, and I don't need0.98
03:18:41.820some woke retarded judge telling me how I should distribute my money and how the assets should go.0.98
03:18:50.080And, oh, my wife cheats on me. I, and we've been married for 15 years in California. I have to pay0.93
03:18:56.420her alimony for her entire life. Fuck the government. Fuck the laws. If she wants to be1.00
03:19:03.040with me, and I hope she wants to be with me for life, and we're going to have a family, and we're
03:19:06.380going to have kids, great. But I'm not going to let the government ever put me in a position.
03:19:12.640Marriage is a contract. Marriage is literally a contract. And I'm a businessman. You know I'm
03:19:20.340businessman because you find me at my places of business. And so when I look at what marriage is
03:19:27.320from a legal perspective, it's a terrible fucking contract. Oh, here's a woman who didn't help you0.99
03:19:34.880build your business at all. And at any moment, she could be cheating on me. Or even if there's
03:19:44.300no cheating. She could just be like, well, I don't like him anymore, which fair, but now he has to
03:19:51.940pay me for the rest of my life X amount of money. That's fucking retarded. I'm not going to ever1.00
03:19:59.300enter into any sort of agreement that would allow for that. That's so dumb. So yes, it's a financial1.00
03:20:08.740liability. What about if you get a prenuptial agreement? Uh, yeah, sure. So, okay. Prenuptial
03:20:14.400agreements can be challenged. Uh, prenuptial agreements can't be unconscionable. So for
03:20:20.460example, the prenuptial agreement cannot state, well, yes, Brian, you make millions of dollars
03:20:26.200per year and you're, uh, going to marry a woman who makes nothing and you're married to her for
03:20:32.32020 years you can in the contract it cannot be like uh she gets nothing that would be an
03:20:39.040unconscionable contract so like prenuptial agreements they're she still gets something
03:20:44.260correct but you agree to it up front and you can have a clause in it that states this prenuptial
03:20:49.320agreement is to be reviewed every year just like you file tax returns every year review it every
03:20:53.700year but so the prenuptial so i believe and it depends on the state i'm not an expert in this
03:20:59.220prenuptial agreements can, can protect assets before the marriage. Anything gained from the
03:21:10.460marriage onwards is the, I don't believe the prenuptial agreement can really address it.
03:21:16.400It would then go community property. So if I'm making a million dollars a year and she's making
03:21:20.860jack shit and we're married for fucking 10 years, trust me, she's getting millions of dollars0.98
03:21:26.560in the divorce regardless of if there's a prenuptial agreement or not i'm sorry i'm not0.99
03:21:33.020giving a woman if she's even if child support is the bigger liability at that point not necessarily
03:21:38.880because that would that would have a limit as to how long it could go and uh if we have children
03:21:45.840uh whether we're married or not that that's something you can't escape right so i why add
03:21:52.300another liability in that case so i don't there's no point yes okay you got me yes if i have children
03:21:58.440with her i would have to technically pay her child support i'm okay with that i get i mean
03:22:03.800i'm actually not so okay with child support i think that can be kind of retarded too
03:22:08.380in some ways because sometimes it it's um most often that's the word most often child support
03:22:13.680isn't even used for the paying for the things child needs not in in some cases the child support
03:22:19.380doesn't cover enough for the child care expenses but sometimes it can be very exorbitant especially
03:22:25.900if you're a high earner uh especially in california where the calculation is based off of
03:22:31.360uh your income and it's just a percentage okay you make this much money uh say you make
03:22:37.000a hundred thousand dollars a month you're going to be paying her ten thousand dollars
03:22:41.340uh in child support a month it doesn't cost ten thousand dollars a month in child support to raise1.00
03:22:46.340a kid fuck the government and fuck her frankly um that's ridiculous that you would ever a lot0.99
03:22:53.800of these child support payments are completely exorbitant is the word i was looking for um1.00
03:22:58.760the woman is going to use the child support for things that have nothing to do with child support0.99
03:23:04.220if the payment is exorbitant so that's bullshit that's completely retarded0.97
03:23:09.520there should be a cap on it i i would challenge you on that a little bit and0.97
03:23:14.520Talk to an attorney about it because I think you're shutting out a lot of women that would be otherwise aligning with all of the values that you have.
03:23:25.440Well, I mean, my perspective on this is like, okay, woman, so if I'm making millions of dollars a year, but I won't give you marriage, but it could work, or you could go marry a guy who makes $100,000 a year, like that's the tradeoff the woman's like going to have to make.
03:24:36.820Because, I mean, all it is now, it's saying, I don't feel like this marriage is working out.
03:24:41.220And I have these divorce laws that I can fall back onto.
03:24:44.700I can have all these incentives and benefits if I do end this marriage and ruin our children's lives, ruin our lives.
03:24:52.760I think, yeah, I think having a marriage where there is no government contract involved makes you think very hard before you get into that marriage.
03:25:02.180You're going to bring up all of those really difficult topics that need to be brought up before you decide to marry this person.
03:25:07.220like all of the do you believe in abortion um what are your political views uh like do you
03:25:14.420think we should be going to church every single week all those extremely hard topics that people
03:25:18.900tend to avoid right now because oh i could just divorce them if we find something that we disagree
03:25:23.920on i mean i think there's both sides because i do agree like i don't really love the role that
03:25:30.440government plays in marriage because i also agree like it's a commitment between you your partner
03:25:34.560and god like i would be totally fine getting married in a field with just me my partner my
03:25:38.860family under god you know but i also think that in one way where yes it does give people that easy
03:25:44.300out it also does make people think like okay like i need to make sure if i really marry this person
03:25:49.920like i'm in this because if we do get divorced like that's messy it can be bad like well so
03:25:56.400this is kind of like going in well going into this i don't know why people who aren't christians get0.99
03:26:02.460married honestly it's the dumbest thing ever like if you don't yeah i think it's so dumb like you0.99
03:26:08.820get in a governmently binding contract to spend the rest of your life with this person like you0.98
03:26:13.900don't really believe that you're in a covenant with them like you're doing it for like i guess
03:26:18.480so you're not alone and you have like a fleshly pleasures with them but like why do people who
03:26:24.840don't believe in god ever get married that blows my mind i have no clue but if you are in a christian
03:26:29.580If you are a Christian, you get married to somebody, and they divorce you, and they take everything.
03:26:34.260Well, if you're part of a good, healthy church, the church is what takes care of you.
03:26:38.060I mean, my church in my motorcycle crash, they took care of me.
03:26:43.080I mean, I had people visiting me every day at the hospital when I was recovering.
03:26:48.240People just lent me rooms in their homes to live in while I recovered until I could start working again.
03:26:54.880The church is designed, and it's really good at taking care of its members,
03:27:15.880And the government sucks at doing that.
03:27:18.460It always prioritizes in the wrong ways.0.88
03:27:20.860It incentivizes people to break that marriage.
03:27:23.880Where, I mean, if you go into a marriage without that government contract, shoot, it's so much better.
03:27:30.380And if you're a Christian and something terrible does happen, there is that you can fall back into your church, and they're there for you.
03:27:40.020The only legalities, then, if you're not married, would be to consult with an attorney of how you can protect your wife or your significant other if something were to happen to you.
03:27:50.420because she doesn't have spousal rights under the laws of man well well so i mean okay if you're
03:27:57.540like thinking of some sort of scenario where you're incapacitated or you you know uh die before
03:28:04.720you otherwise expected to you could that's called a will and testament so okay that's not enough
03:28:11.440huh that's not enough you minimally need a trust a living trust that would make it revocable when
03:28:16.760you die okay but there's a lot you are acknowledging that you can have that sort of way well there's
03:28:21.680there's that's what i said if if if in one way um you believe that the prenuptial isn't protecting
03:28:29.980you then what security or protection does she have and okay so hold on but you're you're now
03:28:37.940that's back to what the woman wants um how do i benefit um how do you benefit uh yeah how do i
03:28:47.540here how i can i can your heirs so hold on i can i can list out all the negatives tell me why
03:28:55.680as a male breadwinner i should get married um you don't have to do anything you don't want to
03:29:02.300I know, but what are the, so, okay. If you're making a case for marriage, if you're arguing
03:29:07.280for marriage, aside from contending with my criticisms, what are the pros? What are the,
03:29:14.880why should I, as the man get married as the male breadwinner? You don't have to, but
03:29:19.260that's not what I'm asking you. I know I don't have to. It'll be easy. I think you're cutting
03:29:24.240off a lot of very traditional women that you're expecting to find. That's actually, I think that's
03:29:29.720compelling to a degree. Yeah. But that's not enough. And have you talked to a family law
03:29:36.740attorney to get all of the laws and specification for the state that you live in? I would want to
03:29:41.760ask all, I mean, I'm not there. I'm not getting married. I just divorced. But if I were to
03:29:47.200remarry, I would want to talk to the family attorney and say, okay, I need a bulletproof
03:29:52.080legal in all 50 states, prenuptial, very blanket, you know, prenuptial. What are my options? I would
03:30:00.020want to educate myself on that before I get married. So, I mean, ultimately, I guess you're
03:30:05.400right that the laws vary state by state. And I don't have like in-depth knowledge necessarily
03:30:14.260about specific outcomes or specific laws, but I have a baseline understanding of marriage and
03:30:24.480divorce laws in the United States. I know, for example, that prenuptial agreements aren't this
03:30:30.560magical contract that means you're going to have a good outcome in the event of a divorce.0.96
03:30:35.560You're still going to get financially fucked simply by virtue of having the marriage.0.86
03:30:39.420you're going to get lawyers involved. That creates an expense right there. It creates a0.97
03:30:45.860financial liability immediately. If you do get married through the court system, then yes,
03:30:51.820you have to get a divorce if you want to separate. That is going to cost money. Whereas, hey, okay,
03:30:57.920we don't want to be together anymore. Well, okay, we got to figure out the child legal situation,
03:31:03.800but that that would be the only legal component should you have children if you're married then
03:31:10.400the divorce comes into play then it's like okay we got to untangle our money if we bought a house0.98
03:31:16.300together if i earned things during the marriage if i had fucking bitcoin you got you're gonna grab0.98
03:31:21.960my fucking crypto you're gonna grab part of my assets you're gonna grab all these things0.98
03:31:26.400and so again i'm asking you why should the why should me as the man the male breadwinner get0.99
03:31:32.600married i'm the woman and i paid it okay so i so just to be clear i i understand that the the laws
03:31:41.800also do apply to women too but i'm asking from from as it is the case that generally speaking0.96
03:31:48.840men are the ones who get fucked in divorce generally i'm not women can get fucked too0.92
03:31:52.800meant women if the woman's making more money and the the man's the stay-at-home dad or whatever0.99
03:31:58.480yeah the woman would uh be paying alimony would be losing money would be in a financially
03:32:04.800bad position so i guess but that's not that's not what i'm asking i guess if if you want to
03:32:12.200divert it to the gender thing why should the breadwinner why should the person who made which
03:32:17.680is mostly men why should the person who makes the most money out of the two why should they get
03:32:22.640married um well i think you would have to be fully educated on it i don't know enough to speak
03:32:30.920intelligently about it yet because i haven't talked to a uh attorney about the prenuptial
03:32:36.360legalities and protections and if you review it every year and you can amend it every year
03:32:40.940i'm sorry but it's going to be very difficult to contend something that you just agreed to last
03:32:44.640year wait what if if you have in my opinion i i don't know enough about it but in my opinion you
03:32:52.400have a prenuptial agreement that gets you both agree before you get married is going to get
03:32:56.280reviewed every year for any changes if any and you agree to it every single year what does that mean
03:33:02.600how are you that doesn't how are you go how is she going to uh defend or contested in a court
03:33:10.020of law when she just signed it last year even if you've been married for 20 years that you're not
03:33:14.940communicating okay so what he's asking is like how do the benefits of getting married
03:33:21.960overweigh the benefits of not getting married.
03:33:25.900So he's listed all of these benefits to not pursuing that government contract.
03:33:30.940How is it getting married outweighs that?
03:33:33.980Because there's a solution to that, to that worry, I think.
03:37:40.340And then the other thing I was just thinking about is, and that is a good point.
03:37:45.580It's like, well, okay, we're having an argument.
03:37:49.860Oh, if I divorce him, I get alimony for the rest of my life and I get like thousands of dollars every month.
03:37:55.760And so it creates an incentive for women or whoever is not the breadwinner to maybe just be like, well, do I receive a benefit by ending this, whereas if I just have a girlfriend and she ends things with me?
03:38:16.240what about her perspective um where you can just leave because she can just leave too0.90
03:38:28.660well right but you are also incentivized not to really try when shit gets hard
03:38:35.160because you just leave i mean so two i guess two things well if you just leave
03:38:40.540you lose what the breadwinner was providing no but let's say she's let's say hypothetically in 151.00
03:38:48.660years yeah after seven kids uh you just turn into a monster to her like you're just an asshole to1.00
03:38:54.400her like verbally abuse her um you slap her once you're like an alcoholic something okay hypothetically1.00
03:39:01.580speaking. Sure. Okay. Okay. And she's trying or, you know, and you're just, she criticizes you on0.98
03:39:10.420it. You know, if you would stop drinking that alcohol, I think, you know, it would be better
03:39:14.900for our relationship. Okay. And you're like, F this, I'm just going to leave. And you leave.
03:39:20.360And you're, and that's no security for her. Well, I mean, if, so if we have children,
03:39:27.320uh the child support would cover some of it um but uh yeah i suppose a woman has to weigh that
03:39:36.620as a potential risk uh however i mean yeah i mean i think it's hard to believe that
03:39:44.440this uh extremely negative behavior just spawned out of nowhere in this guy i mean
03:39:50.700i suppose it could happen i mean i guess it could happen but it's extremely rare
03:39:54.760and like i mean again if you're part of like if you are getting married like i don't again i don't
03:40:02.320see why the people who are not christians get married because you are a christian that stuff
03:40:06.480happens the church is there to help you they're there like the money that people donate to the
03:40:10.840church it's made for these kind of situations well also this hypothetical scenario you like
03:40:18.980couldn't that go the other way too yeah like so it could go the other way too like she could be0.99
03:40:24.580a terrible piece of shit she could cheat on me i did get married to her and we were married for 151.00
03:40:29.960years boom permanent alimony kicks in in california once you're over 10 years of marriage1.00
03:40:35.340she she got gang banged by my fucking best friends or like something fucking terrible could happen0.99
03:40:42.440and now i'm gigafucked like i i think the worst case scenario in both situations is okay the woman0.99
03:40:52.040Brian stopped working and she, um, she was a stay at home wife for 10 years, which
03:41:00.260truth be told, I think is kind of like a pretty damn good scenario. Like, okay, everything is
03:41:06.680covered by your husband. You don't have to work. That seems like kind of a blessing. Like it would
03:41:11.920be wonderful if, if like hordes of women who had a ton of money were like ever came around to men
03:41:19.280or to me in my life and we're like, hey, Brian, I want you to be a pampered little prince and just
03:41:26.120do nothing and take care of the household and raise the kids. Wouldn't it be nice? I actually
03:41:32.160think it's a privilege for women to get to be stay at home and not have to work. I think that's
03:41:37.560a privilege, especially nowadays where economically, financially, it's actually very, very difficult.
03:41:44.140A man has to earn quite a bit of money to actually allow that to happen. Most people are going to
03:41:48.660have to have a two income household so i do think it's a privilege for a woman to uh be a stay at
03:41:53.860stay at home and the guys taking care of all the finances that certainly will be the case uh for me
03:41:58.780the woman will never have to work ever um but so i i i think ultimately though men would get
03:42:05.800the worst end of the stick if we like the worst case scenario in both situations okay i i'm done
03:42:13.380with her and she, we're not married. She's kind of financially fucked. I think you can get on1.00
03:42:19.120your, like, that seems like you can get back on your feet. Um, versus man has a financial duty
03:42:26.940to like, you can have a clean break from somebody like, okay, fuck you're financially in a shitty1.00
03:42:32.260position. You're, you're completely clear from them. You're completely done with them. If I'm0.99
03:42:38.800married to a woman for over 10 years and she does some fuck shit. I am tied to her for life.1.00
03:42:45.820She gets my money for life. I, the government can force my labor. It's literally fucking slavery.
03:42:55.020The government forces me to give her money. So long as I'm working, the government has a right1.00
03:43:00.360to my labor. She has a right to my labor after she fucked another dude for the rest of her life.0.99
03:43:38.800And so, like, I think the scenario you're giving us, I would rather live in a world where, like, that scenario probably happens 0.01% of the time.1.00
03:43:49.280Whereas the scenario nowadays where divorce is absolutely just rampant in our society, it's like 50% of marriages ended in divorce.
03:43:59.940I would rather take the 0.01% risk than the 50% risk.
03:50:22.720I would argue Mason has more in common with an 18-year-old Christian woman than he does with a 30-year-old atheist, liberal, woke, purple hair, septum pierced.
03:50:35.860So this idea that you can't have compatibility and commonality and shared values with somebody younger than you, my argument would be someone much younger than Mason, an 18, 19, 20-year-old, but she's a Christian.
03:50:51.200there's way more alignment there probably a virgin too not necessarily but well more than likely
03:50:58.080higher than a very high chance yes well more more so the chance yes she's a virgin than the 30 year
03:51:06.220old yes indeed but i'm not i'm not holding out for this 18 19 20 year olds being virgins but
03:51:13.280but there's some there's some but uh yeah i mean ultimately uh this idea that i don't know also
03:51:20.600men like they don't they don't know how to file their tax returns they're like barely calling
03:51:25.120insurance companies to insure their car oh no a lot of a lot of them she's barely learning they're
03:51:32.040barely learning they're like little birds just barely she's oh she's young and she's 20 and
03:51:37.920fertile and beautiful and pleasant and doesn't have a fuck ton of baggage, although at 20,
04:39:52.140I mean, obviously we can all just want what we want.
04:39:54.980We all have those preferences and that's absolutely fine.
04:39:57.800it's just more like if you're kind of like i don't want to say like looking down i mean i guess
04:40:05.780looking down on someone who does have a higher body count but you're doing the same thing so
04:40:09.880it just feels a little hypocritical in a way where it's like for instance like he has a no body count
04:40:14.540right like and you just said like he should probably have someone that's like lower as well
04:40:18.940like you're not going to probably put on some girl who has 30 bodies and be like come get mason like
04:40:24.580you're deserving of him because like that's yeah that sure but so in a situation let's say there's
04:40:31.500a guy who he slept with 40 women and he was like you know what i've dated some women who have had
04:40:38.880quite an extensive history i've also dated some women with limited or no experience um
04:40:44.940and he's like i prefer that do you think it's wrong of him i'm by the way i'm not saying the
04:40:53.660women with low or no experience have to date him. I'm just saying, is it wrong for him to say,
04:41:01.740do something like this? Well, I'm going to almost exclusively look out for women with low body
04:41:10.100count or no body count. Well, no, I think everyone's open to their preference. So I think
04:41:15.500it is a little bit hypocritical because you contributed to those women's body counts and
04:41:20.340now you're looking for something that you haven't touched so you're you're you're contributing to
04:41:24.620the problem that you don't prefer why are you doing that well i mean even if it is the case
04:41:33.080that the man contributed uh i i don't see why this should prevent him uh from having a preference on
04:41:41.880this particular issue are we talking like also like preference or like deal breaker too because
04:41:46.500i do like you know i mean like i understand like a preference thing because we all have preferences
04:41:50.440well i mean that we preference i understand that a man who he himself has had a promiscuous past
04:41:57.240or he slept with many women and he uh he is open to dating a virgin or open to dating a low body
04:42:05.180count woman but he might also be open to dating a woman who slept with 10 20 30 men uh so i suppose
04:42:12.920it could not be a deal breaker for him but i guess i'm talking specifically about a guy who
04:42:20.280has a high body count who's only going after women with low body like that's just one of his
04:42:25.360that's one of sure it's a deal breaker yeah well that's where i just feel like it's just
04:42:29.640hypocritical he's not wrong for his own preference i don't think it's hypocritical but i do think it
04:42:32.940is well is it hypocritical for broke women to find billionaire men attractive i mean it's not
04:42:39.740um wrong from the front of them attractive but like if you're like you said someone who's broke
04:42:44.140and you're only like i'm only dated billionaire like i don't think that's right either because
04:42:48.280like you should be trying to elevate and or at least meet your person like you know like you
04:42:54.820should be at your best self so well if we're talking about should so then you're saying that
04:42:59.940a woman should only date a guy that she makes just like she has to make just as much money as him
04:43:06.700Not just as much, but it's more like I don't feel like it's right for you to be broke and be like, okay, well, now I'm about to go get with this billionaire and, like, you know, pretty much come up off of him and add nothing to that.
04:43:17.820Okay, well, do you find professional athletes attractive?
04:43:35.060varsity in high school and then college basketball women's basketball though um but uh yeah ultimately
04:43:43.020though this idea that i guess i would frame it like this i don't believe that in order to desire
04:43:51.140a trait in a partner i don't believe you need to possess said trait so in this case uh
04:44:00.180the man who who he slept with a bunch of women the trait that he wants in a woman is either
04:44:08.920it's chastity it's purity it's uh low promiscuity no promiscuity virgin low body count he doesn't0.89
04:44:16.500possess that trait but he wants it i don't think it makes him a hypocrite in the same way that
04:44:20.960women desire all kinds of traits in men that they themselves don't possess a woman like i don't
04:44:27.800think it's hypocritical for example for a woman to be attracted to and want to date a guy who's
04:44:32.400confident if she doesn't have confidence i don't think it's hypocritical for a woman who
04:44:36.900isn't funny at all to find attractive and want to date a guy who's funny it's all women a woman
04:44:44.280yeah which is pretty much all women um i'm letting the motorcycles go by i don't think
04:44:51.300it's wrong for a woman who um is dull to find men who are very charismatic attractive like i don't
04:45:04.080think like confidence charisma humor these are all things that i think women are very much attracted
04:45:12.140to it's never stopped an unfunny dull lacking in confidence woman from dating those men or
04:45:21.280finding those men attractive like no woman is like hmm I'm not very funny I shouldn't date this
04:45:27.380funny guy because it would be unfair to him I mean I think it's always like hard to generalize in
04:45:34.380general like um like oh it's wrong for them to want that when you're talking about a general
04:45:38.320sense it's because it's controversial I think it's also like if that man who is desiring this
04:45:45.500like virgin is almost who has the high body count is almost saying like if they're talking down to0.98
04:45:50.360women who have a higher body count like you're dirty you're a whore it's not it's like well so0.98
04:45:54.160are you not being funny that's why i say it's hypocritical not being charismatic isn't taboo1.00
04:45:59.660if they're openly like putting down women who have higher body counts like you're gross you're1.00
04:46:03.940disgusting you're a whore it's like okay but you yeah but you're you're smuggling you're smuggling0.99
04:46:07.560in something that wasn't even suggested so there doesn't have to be a component of degradation to1.00
04:46:12.460have the preference the man could just be like uh look i think that women who have little or no
04:46:19.640sexual history, uh, make for better partners. They're more attractive. They're less likely to
04:46:24.520have an STD, all the positive characteristics that are associated with it. Um, I don't think
04:46:31.700it necessarily has to be, I mean, you could have a private judgment, like you could be like, okay,0.96
04:46:38.540you could be a guy who's fucked a hundred women and women can think that that's gross that you0.99
04:46:43.020did that. And you could think that I, as the man in that situation, I would think it's gross that1.00
04:46:48.820the woman fucked 100 men i don't see the problem with it though even if they're the judgment exists0.99
04:46:56.400the preference is still valid so like i'm not okay it is a man who's fucked 100 women0.99
04:47:04.620is he beholden to he can only date women who've fucked a lot of men too no no right but let's say0.99
04:47:14.120you find your dream girl yeah your dream girl exists out there somewhere you're her dream guy0.97
04:47:20.260it's fireworks and magic and you're about to have this beautiful one of seven children
04:47:26.360yeah um and you later find out that she was a hoe yeah well how do you feel now
04:47:34.600because you vetted her you're about i would have so she well part of my girlfriend application i
04:47:40.240ask the body count so i would have known from the get-go but she could lie to you well then now i
04:47:45.740have two issues with her she lied she deceived me she lied she induced me into a relationship
04:47:53.280without my consent uh kind of a little assessment you know a little weird that um most women lie
04:48:00.940and well men should not lie about a lot of things too but nobody should lie um but she also has the
04:48:07.760high body count uh i don't know bro it's probably the end of the relationship honestly i have never
04:48:17.440answered that uh twofold there no good can come of it if it is high i'm automatically judged and
04:48:26.380if it is low i'm a price to be won and i don't want either of those wait but hold on don't you
04:48:31.720wait when you're dating you want to put your best foot forward if i'm 18 19 20 years old yes
04:48:39.260no even if you're hold on not no when you're dating regardless of age you want to put your
04:48:44.580best foot forward if there is something about you a characteristic or trait or what have you
04:48:50.300that is appealing to men or is something desirous to men i i don't see how it be to to your detriment
04:49:00.280i'm being objectified because now i'm a prize to be one it's a thing well hold on a prize to be
04:49:07.780okay so you tell a man but i don't understand so you're objectifying me how would it be objectifying
04:49:13.520if i tell you oh my body count is two how would it yeah i'm a prize that would not be objectification
04:49:19.340that would be you possess a positive trait that like okay what if um well it's private and
04:49:25.900Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. What if a guy wants a woman who likes to read books and you disclose to him that you read books and he's like more attracted to you because you read books?
04:49:40.580Are you a prize to be won? Is he objectifying you?
04:49:43.880No, that's not. That's not objectifying me because that is not a taboo subject.
04:49:50.540That is not that is not that is not a subject of purity, a badge of honor.
04:50:28.060That's why it's being objectified, in my opinion.
04:50:30.820I think there's plenty of scenarios, maybe not the book thing, but I also think I would actually like it, to be honest, if a girl read books.
04:50:42.080One of the girls, the Samantha girl who was supposed to be on the show, she actually apparently, at like the age of, I think she's in her 23, 22.
04:50:51.200she had only read her first book in 2024 whereas like but like at 18 or no she must have been 20
04:51:00.360and i'm like that's kind of sad like you're supposed to read books in school like what
04:51:05.700the fuck but um so i actually would find the book thing kind of appealing but um0.94
04:51:11.320uh so sorry restate your thing uh it's taboo because it's private information you're not0.99
04:51:19.920going to go around parading to people that your girl only has two bodies i wouldn't even but if
04:51:27.400you're so proud you know hey we get along really well we've both read uh the tempest by shakespeare
04:51:34.220together again you know that's something that you can share with other people well hold on but the
04:51:39.340it's not an ego thing internal ego absolutely well it depends what we mean by ego but uh first
04:51:48.040First off, I'm not sharing details about my girlfriend with my friends like that.
04:51:54.340Right, because it's private information.
04:51:56.920Right, so it wouldn't be a badge of honor.
05:03:54.160By the way, George, you are not supposed to eat bears because apparently, even if you cook it, they have, I think, a parasite or something.
05:15:48.540Why would she be more valuable if men and women, if you have one man and one woman, do they have same value or does the woman have more value?
05:15:59.500It depends the age and what they have at home.
05:24:56.240No, but it wasn't granted in the hypothetical that it was some sort of, like, reproduction apocalypse where it's, like, this is the woman who is going to be responsible for, like, propagating the population in society.
05:56:26.600It's like I put a lot into a first date.
05:56:28.520Essentially, what are the men paying for?
05:56:30.820No, but if the argument is men should pay on first dates, because look, and I'm willing to even grant, perhaps in most situations, in terms of preparation, women will probably, you know, with the makeup and whatever, the hair, women's haircuts cost more, although they don't get their hair cut as frequently as men, but whatever.
05:56:50.560um i would say okay sure women spend more money generally speaking but using your logic say i'm a
05:56:58.900i'm a multi-millionaire and she works at chick-fil-a but i'm spending more money getting
05:57:03.680ready for the date logically wouldn't it follow that she has to pay for the date well no because
05:57:09.520i feel like even in that if you're a millionaire like you're like why would you expect well okay
05:57:14.600let me ask you this let's say uh i'm going on a date with a woman and she spends more money
06:27:59.400A little bit of redundancy, but ultimately, I don't know.
06:28:04.420It seems like we're allowed to say men should, but in terms of the ways in which we should say women should, women really aren't doing that.
06:28:14.660I don't think women are doing their should.
06:28:21.860Women are not holding up their end of the should deal.
06:28:25.240yeah like it's so easy to say in our society there's no backlash to saying men should pay
06:28:30.640first dates but there is a lot of backlash for saying women should be chased to deserve a first
06:28:36.860date or even just like even if that's too much of a an ask for a woman to be a virgin women should
06:28:43.460be submissive that's too much too much that's not appropriate it should be 50 50 but only in the
06:28:50.300ways that benefit women i don't know no it's a hundred a hundred i feel like that's more of that
06:28:57.460like feministic mindset though of like um when you're talking about oh women should be submissive
06:29:03.180they don't want to be submissive that is like that like i don't need no man type of mindset
06:29:07.760where like someone who's more traditional which i feel like a lot of us are is that like i have
06:29:13.100no problem submitting to my man like i just also want that you provide me the space to be submissive
06:29:21.260like you're saying like if you're making me go work full time and you're working full time like
06:29:26.420i'm not always going to feel like i can be in my software i can be feminine i can be so you have to
06:29:31.520create that space for your woman to feel safe enough to do that too yeah but would this fly
06:29:36.920in the other direction if a man were to say well i'm masculine but only when the woman has created
06:29:45.460a safe space for me a woman does have to create that space for you to yes well i have to create
06:29:51.340that i'm i'm no longer gonna pay for my wife because she's not being very feminine no it's
06:29:57.480more like no it's communication no no no what i'm saying is what i'm saying is like this this cope
06:30:02.680about oh well I'll be feminine when the man is masculine I'll be feminine when the guy has
06:30:09.080created the safe space and comfort for me but I as the woman am the arbiter of when that safe space
06:30:16.660has been fully manifested and created whereas like you women would not tolerate a guy who's like
06:30:24.260acting feminine but he's like look once I feel comfortable with you and once you've you as the
06:30:31.820woman have created the safe space for me then i'm going to be masculine then i'm going to be a1.00
06:30:35.960leader you'd be like bro you're a fucking bitch what what are you talking about creating that0.99
06:30:40.020space doesn't mean like oh it's all this time that has to pass like creating those spaces can1.00
06:30:44.880be moment by moment for instance like if we're going on a date and you're planning it now you've
06:30:50.060created a space for me to follow your lead to be submissive in that way and same way for a man
06:30:55.940it's like i'm creating if i my man can't go to work all day and then he comes home and i'm like
06:31:01.040you need to clean and then because now i'm not creating that safe space for him to be in his
06:31:06.580masculinity either this idea that simply by virtue of the man uh initiating and paying for the first
06:31:13.320date that that has thus created the space it's for women it's a step it's a i can't tell you the
06:31:18.860amount of women who go on dates and the man pays for the date and he does everything right and1.00
06:31:23.440she's still a contentious vexatious quarrelsome nagging fucking pain in the ass masculine woman0.99
06:31:32.080like me paying for the date doesn't magically make a woman feminine his judgment is bad and1.00
06:31:38.340he didn't bet her correctly well that's secondary this idea that simply by virtue of paying for the
06:31:44.380date that this somehow forces women into femininity is complete no that's not the case
06:31:50.660No, it doesn't force them into it, but someone who is the maturity and the outlook of, like, looking for that, like, date to marry, like, looking for their person, that is going to open that space for them.
06:32:05.800But someone who's just looking to take and get a quick meal or have a quick, yeah, they're not going to appreciate it.
06:51:13.100I think a guy who's in his mid-20s, who's a professional athlete, who makes way more money than I do, who's incredibly fit and good-looking and tall, he would be assessed as having more value by women.
06:51:31.200But so there's not a cope that's going on on my end.
06:51:34.220There are things that can raise your value, lower your value, not as a human being.
06:51:38.400Again, we have equal value as human beings, but the value proposition to the opposite
06:51:45.600sex when selecting for a partner, a husband, a wife, whatever it is, people can have varying
07:27:40.300We're a society, and when we know better, we do better.
07:27:43.740I'm not saying they don't go to jail, but I'm just saying that you can't say that because someone is from somewhere else that they don't have a right to have a better life.
07:37:42.720Okay, you may be able to get in those certain ways, but there are certain prejudices that prevent people from getting in the right way.
07:37:51.440So even if we were to grant that there is, and I actually haven't seen any evidence of this, that there's some sort of prejudice that offers white people preferential treatment in legal immigration, legal immigration is completely irrelevant to, for the most part, it's completely irrelevant to the question of illegal immigration.
07:38:13.660so in this case if you want to levy criticisms of the legal immigration system and suggest that
07:38:20.240it's racist you're welcome to do that but that doesn't pertain whatsoever uh as to illegal
07:38:26.080immigration so uh yeah we should deport all the illegal immigrants i don't care if they've
07:38:31.000committed zero crimes or whatever they all have to go well you can go ahead and feel that way but i
07:38:36.480disagree yeah so um i want to get back to the stolen land thing though so again most i'm someone
07:38:45.220in the chat might be able to correct me quite a bit of american land was purchased so you had the
07:38:50.880louisiana purchased we purchased like alaska for example from russia um so much much of the united
07:38:57.260states was actually purchased um the rest of it was um conquered not stolen conquered that's
07:39:04.320different um all countries in europe uh were conquered one weird like the people were conquered
07:39:11.540there there was kings who were conquering each other fighting each other so um you might not
07:39:17.320like it but uh conquest for all territories in the united states is the way that nations have
07:39:22.940been formed pretty much everywhere um so is european is like european countries are they
07:39:30.440stolen land from other white people i guess um but yeah i don't understand the stolen land thing
07:39:37.740well when i say stolen land i'm not talking about like i mean obviously i'm not talking about every
07:39:44.100single piece of land but there were absolutely instances in our history as far as america where
07:39:49.800they were forcefully purchased right when you say like either you're going to sell us this land or
07:39:57.340we're going to kill you well it might be the case however pretty much every other piece of land and
07:40:04.580on earth is under the same circumstance and i do not agree that that's right so every piece of land0.97
07:40:10.820is stolen what is your proposal should there not be borders i'm not saying there shouldn't be
07:40:14.900borders but i'm just saying but it's stolen i don't everything's stolen land you shouldn't be
07:40:19.300able to is mexico stolen land i mean didn't you say every piece is stolen at this i didn't say
07:40:27.500I'm trying to use your logical, I'm trying to use your logic to be able to come to a conclusion.
07:40:31.920My logic is that I feel like everybody has a right to make a life better for themselves if they're not posing like a violent or dangerous threat.
07:40:41.320If someone wants to come here and make a life for themselves with their family and escape danger from where they currently live, I don't have an issue with that.
07:48:13.540No, but you have to – if your position is, well, even on land that isn't stolen, we still shouldn't deport illegal immigrants, then your argument that we shouldn't deport illegal immigrants because stolen land crumbles.
07:48:29.040There has to be other justification for why we should not deport people.
07:48:32.420Sure, there's other justification besides the stolen land part.
07:48:49.020In a hypothetical scenario, what percentage of the world population do you think, or you could give me a number like 500 million, 1 billion, 2 billion, 3 billion.
07:48:59.820What percentage of people out there in the world, many of which live in third world nations and in like robust, terrible poverty, how many people in the world would like to live in the United States?
07:49:14.280I can't give you a, I don't know that number.
07:50:22.160I understand what you're saying as far as the numbers.
07:50:26.020of like i understand that but i'm just saying that like for me personally i wouldn't be able
07:50:32.280to say like i'm okay with someone just being deported just because they didn't come through
07:50:37.000the proper channels i have you ever been to have you ever been to india no i haven't so let's say
07:50:43.860we were to import 1 billion indians into the united states do you think the united states
07:50:49.200would continue remaining to look wait do you think the united hold on hold on wait hold on
07:50:55.700But if we were to import one billion Indians, do you think the United States would continue to look like the United States or would it look like India within 20 years?