She DISRESPECTED Him？! Based VlRGlN Mason & Brian Atlas vs. Women HEATED DEBATE! ｜ Dating Talk 290
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Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have our first guest, Mason Gregoire, join us to talk about his miraculous recovery from a motorcycle accident that almost killed him. We also get to meet Mason's girlfriend, Ashley St. Whore.
Transcript
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense
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of the modern dating hellscape i uh i'm very sorry for our uh delay there boy do i have some
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stuff to tell you guys um so sorry that we're starting late guys uh my sincerest and deepest
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apologies for that uh we as you can see uh something we've perhaps done only once in history
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uh i had to you know i had to recruit the fuck do you see her her head's like all fucked up
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the the you see that it's like all fucking bloppy jaw i had to fucking we have kiki
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joining us mason's girlfriend they're they're getting comfortable and uh that's ashley
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Before I get into it, I'll let some more people roll in and join the stream.
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So tell us your name, age, location, occupation, and education.
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I'm 19, and I'm originally from Utah, but I live in California now in Santa Monica.
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lds lds yeah okay what does that stand for latter day saints why was there a question
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mark at the end of the because i'm nervous okay all right so and you're um
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what do you do on of is it boy girl content or yeah i do a bit of everything um solo and boy
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girl content. I see. Okay. All right. What about you? I'm Jade. I'm 28. I live in Oceanside. I'm
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originally from Ohio. I'm a holistic health practitioner. Holistic health practitioner.
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Okay. Massage, body work, sound baths, all that good shit. Okay. Any education, any college?
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Yeah. I have my degree from MiraCosta. In what? Kinesiology. When did you get that? In 2022.
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I'm 50 years old and I am from right outside of Memphis, Tennessee.
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I have a bachelor's degree and I am in insurance.
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but Memphis. And are you like, is that where you were? That's where I'm from. Grew up there. Okay.
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Memphis, Tennessee. All right. All right. Uh, college, anything like that or I have a bachelor's
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bachelor's. Okay. Got it. All right. Uh, what about you? My name is Angelica. I am 41 and I
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am a mortgage professional and a real estate developer. I did some college, but, um, I stopped
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once I started my real estate career. Okay. And where are you from? I am from the greater Los
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Angeles area. I'm in the West Valley. Okay. All right. Mason, what about you? Yeah. My name is
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Mason Gregoire. I am 29, turning 30 in like seven days. So hitting that 30 wall. You can find me on
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Instagram, YouTube, I guess Facebook if you're old,
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I got my degree in mechanical engineering, natural sciences.
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I also have another degree in natural sciences from Covenant College.
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But I did all that, threw that away, and now I'm going into the EMS field.
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I'm an EMT working on an ambulance, going in to be a firefighter.
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all right and you had kind of a miraculous recovery about a year over a year ago yeah it
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was over a year ago uh my motorcycle accident yes that was a motorcycle accident um it was
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i think the doctors every single doctor said that by far i should have died it was it's a miracle
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that i'm still alive uh it happened on 9 11 of 2024 so a magical day for oh goodness so many
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people, but obviously being a joke. But yeah, so got in that motorcycle crash, had a grade four
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aortic tear, a open book pelvis fracture, abdominal perforations, compound tib-fib
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fracture, femur fracture, broke my jaw, intracranial swelling, cerebral spinal fluid leakage.
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And then, I mean, I had a colostomy bag for like six months there.
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Actually, last time I was on the show, I had a colostomy bag.
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And about probably a few hundred thousand people saw me take a dump on live footage a few times that day.
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Can you place this African-American baby in that seat there?
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Shout out to all the based homies in the whatever discord
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Based JC, based Jay Ekin, based Paddy, based Thor, based Mr. Drake, based Mara, slash Mike, based Jess, based Josh, based B, based Nat, and based Wiggles
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Alright, so before we get into the relationship status
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it's not without a sense of irony that if you those of you who tuned in last show last week
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we had 13 people on the panel because what i do i i overbook i'll usually you know aim to
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like have 15 people on schedule a week out with the anticipation that as the show approaches you
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know we'll get we'll get like five six flakes you know leading up to it the day before the day of
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uh today and by the way i overbooked for today but unfortunately uh it was just a uh what's the
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word like uh perfect storm i don't know just fucking everybody almost everybody except for
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you guys uh fucking like no showed um and i'm gonna get into that here in just a moment uh
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hold the super chats for just a moment while i'm getting through this like just take it off
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Uh, so, um, I feel like it warrants, given the egregiousness of the flakage and the no-showingness and et cetera, et cetera, I feel like it warrants, uh, us calling these people out individually and, uh, also providing and showing their bullshit excuses.
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uh so i i think that's warranted under the circumstances normally i just let it go
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um so the first one which i find the most egregious uh well and by the way let me just
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make something clear guys on like five separate occasions in our comms with the people we have
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on the show we tell them the date we tell them the show time uh especially oftentimes we're
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booking people sometimes we'll be booking people kind of like you know the week of but oftentimes
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we're booking people weeks even months in advance um and it varies it varies but for the most part
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the majority of people we have booked are booked like weeks out weeks out so we send five remind
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like there's a total of five um points where we you know confirm we we sent out initial show
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information. We ask for initial confirmation. A week out, we send like the show information.
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Like midweek, we send a midweek reminder. We send a day before reminder and we send a day of
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reminder. And man, people are just not reliable. So I'm going to show you some of the bullshittery.
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I only had time to take screenshots of some of the messages, but we'll show you each individual
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person. Uh, so the first one we're going to pull up was a, a no show. Uh, go ahead, pull that one
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up, Tiffany. All right. So Jocelyn Silva, uh, she just straight up no showed. And so we called her,
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we called her up and we're like, Hey, uh, and I think we had, you two were there. You witnessed
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missed my frustrated phone call. So I call her up and she actually picks up. I was actually
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surprised. And she says that, oh, what did she, well, she said that at 3 a.m. she had to drive
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her mom to the hospital. And that in, at that moment though, she was, I heard the TV on in
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the background. She was babysitting two children. Now, mind you, she didn't tell us. I had to call
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her. So our meet time is 4 p.m. Our meet time's 4 p.m. I called her at like 4.15, 4.20. She had
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not sent any message. She didn't take like five, 10 seconds to just message us and say, hey,
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I'm sorry. I had an emergency. Something happened. I'm not going to be able to make it.
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she didn't do that and she claims that she you know had to take her mom to the hospital which
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is a lie she was babysitting some kids which i don't know the truth of that but what we do know
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is uh that she was posting as you can see she has some stories active there and uh so um go ahead
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so this was two hours ago hold on so she she says she didn't have time to take you know it takes 10
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seconds to send a message and just say, hey, I'm not, look, I'm not coming. Even, hey, you know
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what? You could just be like, you know what? Fuck your podcast. I don't like it. I'm not coming.
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So two hours ago, so our call time's 4 p.m. It's currently 5 30 p.m. now. Now, so this,
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she probably took this at like 3 p.m., 2 p.m. She never told us. She never reached out. She
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didn't send a message that she wasn't coming. Her excuses she had in emergency, yet she had time to
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post stories to her Instagram. She has time to take a video and then post it. And then think of
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the retarded caption she's going to post and then put all those filters on it. So she doesn't look
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ugly. So, uh, go ahead and play hit play there. So she posts a story two hours ago. Oh, wait,
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whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. What the fuck? Okay. Uh, I don't know what happened
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there. Uh, you're going to have to X out, like close that one down. Close. Just, just that page.
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okay just that one though okay tiffany yeah all right pull it back up
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yeah she deleted it wait wait no did you close the the the oh okay so this is her she has a
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poetry page so she also had the time to her second alt instagram account she didn't have time to take
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10 seconds to be like hey i'm not gonna make it sorry she had time to post some like retarded
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poetry okay cool uh tab over next okay so that's the one of the stories she took tab over
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because i guess she took she privated uh i'm a woman that knows what i'm going to name my kids
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i live on my own and pay my own bills i know what i want of course i'm not easy now she posted this
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she had time to post this retarded shit uh but she didn't have time to message us she's a fucking
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liar she's a fucking scumbag uh tab over there's one more she had time to she had time to post this
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i guess so she had time to post all this shit how do you have time first off she's obviously lying
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about the emergency how do you it's total bullshit by the way you got i don't know if you guys were
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listening uh you guys were listening um did she apologize did she say sorry not once what did she
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say she was annoyed through the whole thing and then she was gonna speak into the mic she was
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annoyed through like the whole conversation like you were putting her out to call her out for her
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crap i was like i was like hi hey this is uh we're calling here from the whatever podcast just
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checking in are you coming and she was like oh uh no i was like okay well and then i think i said
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something like okay well you it's 4 20 the call time was four you're coming from la you would
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have had to you would have known two hours ago if you weren't coming you could have taken 10
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seconds to just say and she was like you know I should have done that she said something like
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you know you're right you're right I should have done that
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the next words maybe I'm sorry no she didn't say sorry and then I was like well what uh what's the
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deal and then like she was like well wait hold on and then hung up on me so like oh I'll hold
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the whole hang up so uh pull back up her instagram though like the you might have to go back a few
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tabs so look i mean she's a piece of shit um go ahead pull it up yeah uh jocelyn silva
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fucking scumbag fucking terrible person fucking piece of shit um and uh
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let's see let's see that dumb ass story again uh you tab over next one next one
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i'm a woman that knows what i'm going to name my kids oh my god you're so you're such a terrible
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person i'm like should i say it chat um i don't honestly this person is so bad i don't think she
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should procreate to be honest like if you don't if you're i think she's i don't know in her mid
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twenties. If you are in your mid twenties and you don't have the courtesy to just be like,
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take 10 seconds when you've agreed to do something and just be like, Hey, I'm not, I'm not coming.
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Look, you could throw in an apology in there, but at least tell the person, Hey, I'm not coming.
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now there's no there was no emergency she was posting instagram stories i'm sorry your mom's
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in the hospital you're babysitting kids you got time to post stories but you don't have time to
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take 10 seconds to message and tell someone you have an appointment with so you don't fuck their
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production over not that i don't you know there's the fucking black baby and the fucking pink-haired
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ashley saint whore and fucking kiki over not that i don't mind it i'm just saying all right now
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that's one of the seven voice crack that's one of the seven motherfuckers who pulled some bullshit
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today next that's one fuck her now this is samantha wheeler who i attempted to call her
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but she just no showed complete no show uh so samantha wheeler she's a content creator she's
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an international, multi-published, petite model. Scroll down a little bit. I just want
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to see, you know, anybody, you know, everyone's calling them. Keep going. Scroll down. Everyone's
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a model. I mean, do you think she has? I don't think she has the chops, to be honest. She
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does not have oh my god put that away god damn put oh my sorry um
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no i tried to call i was like hey you coming she didn't no answer no no no what's it called
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no call no show she didn't hey i'm sorry i'm not coming we sent reminders today yesterday the day
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like uh the day before we had her we've had her on schedule since hold on let me look we had her
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on schedule for like a month i think i think it was a month let me check and uh yeah man so that's
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that's number two that was the number two no show uh that we had so i'm trying to see if i can find
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it but samantha wheeler look if you're in los angeles and you're trying to book a woman who
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looks like she does crack cocaine and like overdoses like every other week i mean maybe
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she's your girl yeah we had her on schedule we we booked her march 11th it's april 12th she was on
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schedule for a month 30 days she was on schedule march 27th sent a reminder april 3rd sent the
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show information uh thursday sent it a reminder saturday sent a reminder sent a reminder today
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so okay that was a no show that was a no show by the way this is going to relate to dating
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because this is how people operate this is how people move this is how people are and it could
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be business it could be friends it could be you're dating people have no respect for time anymore
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I partially blame well social media but I blame this a lot but uh I remember look I don't know
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if I'm, we do have some older women here. We got, uh, you're 50, you're 41. I'm 36. Mason,
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how old are you? Uh, 29 turning 30. And you're 28. So I don't know, maybe you guys might be on
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the younger side, but I remember when I was a kid and I was a fucking seven, when I was a seven
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year old, if I told my friend, Hey, we're meeting at the handball courts. I was at the fucking
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handball courts. I don't care. I could be fucking, if I was sick, I'm showing up, I'm showing up. I
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can't leave my friend waiting at the handball courts we're gonna play tetherball or some shit
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we're gonna fuck i don't know so it's like it's become way too common to just
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it's been very common to just cancel plans last minute i don't know i'm a no g i'm a no g
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you don't fucking do that you say you're gonna be somewhere you're gonna be you you show up
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next person fuck samantha wheeler pull up pull her up again let me just talk some more shit
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real quick but then next person fuck samantha guys this this woman is completely unreliable
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if you want to book somebody you don't want to deal with her she will not show up she won't give
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you you don't don't waste your production if there's any bookers out there in fucking los
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Angeles. Do not, don't book this woman. She's, she's going to fuck your production up. You're
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going to get a fucking, and Hey, look, we, we can roll with the punches a little bit because we got
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a panel show, but you're, you're in LA. You're going to, you're trying to book a zombie shoot.
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Like you're, you're doing the walking dead in Los Angeles and you're trying to book this chick.
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You don't even got to put her in makeup. Like she's already good to go. She's good to go as
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a zombie. She's already good to go, but I'm maybe don't book her. There's a, there's other people
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in LA who need the work. She doesn't need to make, she's already set. You don't need to put
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the zombie face on her. She's already a zombie. Okay, next. Uh, this girl apparently, so okay,
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she, she, this one, Rocky, Raquel, old soul, fucking dumb soul. I'll tell you that much.
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She, uh, so this is what she did here. Why did I post it in the discord? I might have you
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one sec. I might have put it in the discord. I do have the, the, the DM in the discord. Go ahead.
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Pull, pull up the discord. And then, so three 50. No, no, no, no. Okay. Here. Three 55.
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Our meet time is 4 PM. Three 55. Go ahead. Pull it up. Pull it up. Guys, this is what I'm dealing
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with. This is what I'm dealing with every fucking week. Hey, I'm having our meet time is 4 PM.
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and I think it's going to hinder me from coming
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I'm assuming because she's coming from Los Angeles.
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so i don't believe it i think she's lying i think she's just lying uh anyways fuck uh pull up her
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ig again fuck her uh rocky get fucked you're i think you're a fucking liar show me you know what
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i will retract my rude comments if you send me a dm i with proof of your your triple a
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send me a photo that you actually your car oh your car broke down send me a photo
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and then show me the triple a bill you know what's unfortunate though people can like make ai
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like ai car breakdowns because i i've had people send me like fake photos in the past
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and you can google image uh google reverse image search i've had women send me broken car photos
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and it's like hold on this was posted three years ago i one time i had a girl send me a photo of
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her car broken down and it was foggy and she was in santa barbara and it was clear skies
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i'm like the cloud there's no clouds your car's broken down oh boy anybody remember that show
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that was crazy all right uh next who am i talking shit to next who's next who's next oh this fucking
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Okay, all right, Samantha, okay, this person's ridiculous
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Bro, but this is what you're going to deal with when you're dating
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I'm bedridden, got in an accident last night
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Well, also, it's appropriating car crashes.
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Like if you're in a wreck and you total your car, there's no way you're just bedridden in some wherever,
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like messaging us, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry, I'm bedridden, my back hurts.
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You would be in surgery, you would be operated on.
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There's no way you would be texting the whatever podcast.
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As a professional EMT, I can confirm that is a lie.
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Well, also, it's just like you had your own car motorcycle accident.
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I feel like they're appropriating my suffering.
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And they claim, they'll claim their dog is, is what, wait, wait, wait.
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It's a, no, that, that's like a step down, a service animal.
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One girl came on the show claiming her little poodle was a service animal.
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Now it might be a ESA, an emotional support animal, which is, you can get that.
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You can pay 20 bucks online, get a fucking certificate.
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But what they do is, which I find very troubling, and it's mostly women who do this, is lie about the status of your dog.
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So it's like, so they can, like, for flying and stuff, it makes it easier to, like, I guess, get your dog on board.
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Yeah, or, like, for flights, they'll claim the dog is a service animal, but it's not.
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women overwhelmingly like men probably do that too but women more so do it um also like they'll do it
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like just to get into like for buildings and stuff for events they'll lie and say it's a service
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animal but it's not and that's kind of like it's fucked up just to lie about that but it kind of
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makes people doubt the people who actually need the service animal for a genuine need whether
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it's someone who who has uh i don't know what the pc term is like vision trouble who's um who has a
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disability yeah who's legally blind who's blind yeah and uh or someone who like has seizures or
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whatever it is like these people it's just like they're bullshitting the service animal thing
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whenever i see britney walk in with her like little small poodle she's all dressed up real
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nice and she's like oh it's my emotional emotional support animal who's makes me
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I don't know, you got me, I'm just making the name of it.
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I mean, obviously, everyone with emotional support animals, Brittany, maybe Karen, you know, one of those names.
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But yeah, and then, like, so whenever I see someone who's actually blind, I'm wondering, are they actually blind?
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Do they actually need that support animal?
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It makes me doubt, and I shouldn't have to doubt, but I do.
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Okay, yeah. So she claimed she was in a catastrophic car accident and let me know. When did she let me know? Pull up the Discord really quick. You know what? Never mind. Just to move it on.
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We don't have, that doesn't give us enough time
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to like find a replacement uh you could let us know sooner but i mean at least she let us know
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she didn't know actually you know what uh she would not she probably wouldn't have told us
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so i sent i sent a reminder at like 1 p.m i sent a i send a day of reminder to everybody like around
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1 p.m i don't think had i not sent that reminder i she wouldn't have told us volunteer like she
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If she didn't get that notification, she would have just probably no-showed.
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I'm going to blast through the rest of these so we can actually get to the show because it's probably – I'm beating a dead horse at this point.
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This chick, bro, she did let us know ahead of time at like 2 p.m. or some shit that she was having –
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Okay, actually, go to the Discord then, and then pull up the message.
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So that's like three, two no-shows, four, I think it was like seven total or some shit.
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Pull up the Discord, and then it's going to be the one below the cat photo, the image.
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So I do think I need it, but I'm going to order the Uber, and as long as I'm taking the bus back, I don't need it with me.
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So I'm having a slight transportation issue, just trying to see what my best option is now.
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I should have gotten on that side this morning, like blah, blah, blah.
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The bus with the traffic is getting me there way late and Uber and everything rose.
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She arrived like yesterday or something, not in Santa Barbara.
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She, I told her to fly to Santa Barbara, but she flew to LA and she's crashing in LA.
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and uh i she messaged me at like 1 1 30 that message and i told her i'm like the if you're
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if the bus is going to be late get yourself a fucking uber pay the 200 pay the 250 by the way
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she she canceled she had actually flaked on us like two two three months ago uh and she had
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missed her flight the day of uh this was like two three months ago she i maybe i'll post that in the
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discord she missed her flight um so that that's the second time she canceled on this day of because
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of transportation issues that's a 20 i think that's a 28 29 year old woman and then uh the
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discord there's one more uh pull up the cat one that's the final one then we'll get to the show
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sorry to the panelists here who have to hear me ranting and raving and being a lunatic uh well i
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can't make this shit up i don't know what she did but she's this is a different different girl i
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don't know what she did but she's limping and i need to stay here or take her to the vet i don't
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have people to cat sit her since my roommates are going out of town 10 45 a.m uh by the way that's
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i don't know if you guys remember that woman that's uh emily she's been on the show like two
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times long time ago she's actually kind of based uh and she's cool like i like her um so i'm not
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gonna like show her IG but like everyone else fuck them like fuck all those other people uh Emily
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you owe me something like if we're gonna rebook you you need to give me a fucking deposit and you
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need to send me 300 bucks as a deposit and fucking bring cookies or some bullshit uh but uh I mean
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look I believe her on the cat thing but um to be fair you know you could have taken the the cat
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limping video like weeks or months ago and just like people will use old shit as an excuse
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whenever they need it um but in any case 10 45 a.m meet time 4 p.m you can figure out a solution
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like you could have taken her the cat to the vet right away like to the emergency vet and like i
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don't know got it sorted right away she and then i was like yeah can can you call one of those like
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what's that there's like apps like where where you can have a pet sitter i forgot the names of
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them when i had a dog i used to use the apps all the time to uh like you can you can have people
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do homestays rover and wag yeah you can have them stay at your house you can have bring them to
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their house you could have a friend you could have a family member she's got a boyfriend
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so it's like look i i have a cat of course like yeah that's terrible if you know your cat's
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actually all fucked up or whatever i don't know i think there could have been solutions
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anyways that's it all right uh well okay shows up no i'm just kidding all right all right so um
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i need to get that off my chest guys we deal with flakes and no shows every week
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and i don't feel the need to expose uh the many the dozens or hundreds of people who've done so
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in the past but if you're gonna fuck with our production to i mean today it was just total
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clusterfuck so that made something like seven let me see oops hold on what the fuck one sec guys
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you know what my wrath is not fully complete um final thing here
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final thing because i'm a i'm what's called a i'm a social assassin
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in. I do away with, how do I put this, with, eh, fuck it, whatever. So you were a little
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bit late. I was, yes, I'm sorry about that. I didn't, my staff told me, you know, when
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you came in, I didn't get an apology. I'm really sorry. I wasn't. Was there an apology
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to my staff tiffany did she apologize not an oh not even an apology because maybe
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as my staff greets the guests as they arrive you know maybe there was an apology there
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at 30 minutes late i think an apology was in order i did notify and i sent my location on
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the app and i said it's telling me i'm going to be there at 4 17 i sent my location
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well now you're apologizing for not apologizing
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but just know as a 36 year old having to educate a 41 year old if you're 30 minutes late
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the apology should be unprompted you know it's like the manners you know the manners thing
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the courtesy thing it was very quiet so i wasn't sure um what the protocol um protocol yeah it's
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just you know you're already kind of on edge because you're late and um if i was 30
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minutes late i might offer up hold on actually i'm not going to say that but if i was 30 minutes
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late somewhere i might do you have you ever seen those japanese bows where they actually like
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lay on the floor like i think you you could have done that no i'm kidding but
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apology an apology was in order i'm really sorry and i do have snacks in the car
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by the way which by the way hold on but but but actually the worst thing was
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you you parked in the wrong lot or something don't say where but you like you parked somewhere
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and then you you were slowly well i saw you slowly walking and then you you arrived and
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then you had to go back to move your car and then you slowly walked back to your car and then you
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moved by the way you should you should have just taken the ticket at that point but and then you
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you uh you found a new parking spot and then you slowly meandered back
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just just pointing it out okay yeah but brian she was wearing heels if she was if she was moving
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too fast they could have got stuck in a crack or something well and she would have been like
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another like five minutes late well i was what i was saying i think before she arrived is even
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with the heels if i was 30 minutes late i'm fucking bolting to the i'm running whipping
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the heels off even if i'm wearing if i know i'm keeping the heels on as a man i'm wearing the
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heels okay okay okay and i'm bolting i don't care if i snap my ankle i don't care if i tear my
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achilles tendon i don't care if i get an acl tear lcl tear if i'm 30 minutes late i'm taking the l i
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guess but uh anyways uh oh the girl the jocelyn silva girl who no showed who i called the first
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girl i mentioned she just sent me a dm at least don't pull it up tiffany at least i put my
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responsibilities first thank you for the shout out i can't apologize for taking care of important
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things have a great day though well i don't know if you're watching the stream you fucking retard
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jocelyn silva but taking care of important things even if we were to grant that last night your mom
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had an emergency and you had to take her to the hospital you're not the one being treated if you
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know you're not gonna make it here watch retard bump bump bump hey sorry fuck your podcast you're
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a fuck. I don't like you. I'm not coming. 15 seconds while you're waiting in the waiting room.
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Instead, you're posting Instagram stories. You're posting Instagram stories. You fucking retard.
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You're either lying or even if you're telling the truth, what's that scene from Casino with Robert
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De Niro where that there's that local guy who, where, uh, there was like three jackpots in 15
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minutes. And it's like, you're either fucking in on it, in which case you're fired or you're too
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fucking incompetent to see that you were getting set up and they were rigging the games. In either
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case, you're fucking fired. Either case, even if your mom was in the hospital, you still could
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have said something. You were posting Instagram stories. You had time to post retarded ass
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Instagram stories. You had time to DM us and be like, hey, I'm a piece of shit. I'm not coming.
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you could have done that but you didn't so fuck you
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um trying to think uh pull up mason's instagram i'm going to talk some shit about mason bring it
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up pull up mason's instagram pull this pull up mason this guy get me out of here all right this
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fucking guy uh so guys mason uh click on that first photo mason had it has a documentary
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coming out it's called uh rise under or what we haven't officially named it but rise under is my
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like slo go yeah logo logo not slo go words they're difficult and so yeah guys if you um
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there's a trailer out uh we're not going to be able to like show the whole thing but if you guys
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want to check out the trailer for for mason's recovery uh they're doing like a documentary
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uh it's on his instagram they've posted on youtube but they can just go to your instagram
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right to see yeah and go to my instagram it's just it's this one right the uh i partnered with um
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emily hayes she's an incredible documentary maker um i she's shown me some of like the the content
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uh from the documentary itself and it's absolutely incredible um very surprised at how she how good
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she's done with it but uh yeah go to my instagram page go to hers x there tiffany just so they can
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see the page yeah that's mason's instagram page uh check out his documentary that once is it like
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there's a date so right now we're thinking about june july okay yeah rock and roll okay guys uh
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we're gonna get into the show i needed to cover a few things there at the beginning so sorry that
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we're late sorry for the the the uh that whole uh kerfuffle and uh let's see um uh well okay here
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let's do this uh won't you guys tell uh your relationship status i'm married okay uh for how
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long i've been married for two years now married or engaged i no married i guess i should say
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almost two years because i'm about to turn 20 so like okay a year and and is this your longest
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relationship yes how long were you together before you were married um maybe like three or four
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months okay so about short you've been together for basically two years yeah okay uh all right
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is he LDS also? He is. Okay. Uh, and are you from Utah or? Yeah, we're both from Utah. And you,
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but you both live now in Los Angeles. Yes, we both do. Okay. Um, and you do OnlyFans. Yes,
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I do OnlyFans. Uh, so we're not going to dive into that quite yet, but we will definitely
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talk about the OnlyFans stuff and how that might potentially conflict with being Mormon and LDS.
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yes um uh what about you relationship status single all right how long you've been single for
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um about two two years all right sing for about two years what's the longest relationship you've
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had five years five years okay is that the one that ended two years ago yes okay who broke up
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with who um well he cheated so i left him um but he's deceased now so rest in peace oh okay
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like recently or yeah on march 1st oh shit drugs gracious car accident oh fuck
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damn yeah sorry to hear that so i agree with you know people who appropriate those car accidents
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because real people get hurt real people lose their lives so yeah yeah just like you know look
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if you're don't lie about being in a car accident or like a family member dying just be like i have
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explosive diarrhea yeah like have it be something just to do like i can respect that if you tell me
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i have explosive diarrhea then it's like i okay don't show up yeah please don't show up we beg of
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you yes and like it takes some like it takes some uh gumption some like fortitude some foundation
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to be able to tell somebody, hey, the real reason I can't be there right now
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is because you suck or I have explosive diarrhea.
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I raised my nephew since he was baby, but I don't have any of my own.
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Are you still, like he lives with you, your nephew?
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Yeah, he's a senior in high school, so he's graduating this June.
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In the two years you've been single, any guys in the picture?
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Because I'm moving, too, so it's like I'm not trying to, you know.
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I'm in San Diego, like Oceanside area, so North Carolina.
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Yeah, I'm originally from Ohio, so that's a little more of my speed.
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It's just I'm a little over, like, the facade out here.
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have you ever been to the south yeah oh yeah yeah i have some family um in the south and
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ohio is pretty similar to that area as well so i went to school in the south so i lived there for
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like eight years what when are you moving december december okay okay oh so you're here for another
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nine eight months all right um but so you're in a situationship how long have you been in the
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situationship um well it's been on and off we were like locked in for a couple months and then
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we went our separate ways and we just kind of re um connected how soon after the breakup of your
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five-year relationship did you get involved with the situationship eight months so eight months
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later yeah but between the breakup of your five-year relationship and the now on off
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situationship were there any other guys in between and have there been any guys uh i guess between
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the breakup two years ago with the five-year guy and now any other guys in the picture other than
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one situation no okay so you've been seeing the situationship for over a year is that correct
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yeah like on and off is it currently on it's on right now yeah when's the last so when's the last
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time you saw him yesterday did you guys have cardinal knowledge yes
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what now see this is what is interesting to me is like this is a guy you've been seeing
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granted on and off but you're currently on for it sounds like 14 months or I don't know 15 months
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he was inside of you yesterday but when i asked you what your relationship status was you said
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single yeah now perhaps this is a bit presumptuous and it's you know making an assumption but when
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someone tells me they're single i assume there at least hasn't been a penis inside of them for
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like a fortnight you know two weeks you know that's like the you know what i mean now technically
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look a woman could have had a one-night stand the night before and it was strictly a one-night stand
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she's never going to see the guy again if she tech she's single yes if she was asked what her
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relationship status is would she say single yes but in your case there's been this ongoing thing
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you're loyal to him he's not loyal to you though is that correct
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yeah in a way I guess you could say that like like he sleeps with other women no it's just more like
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we're enjoying each other's company we're enjoying each other and if he wanted to go do that
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he would let me know and then I would just you know take my take my leave because I don't do
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sharing so it's just more I just don't have the title because like that's just not necessary
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because like at the day I'm moving so I'm not gonna like pretty much go pour new energy into
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people for a temporary time versus like spending time with someone who I already have a connection
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with you know the only complication there is how long have you like when did you make the
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determination that you're going to be moving is this a new thing um this was decided officially
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um at the end of last year so december yeah i decided so five months ago yeah but you've been
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seeing the guy for a year and a half or something no no we were involved for a couple months and
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then we separated he was got into a relationship and then once he got out of that relationship and
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then like we just reconnected through there because he had reached back out to me i see
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okay and when was that before the uh november or december of 25 when he reached out back yeah
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when he reached back out to you before you decided or after you decided it was after i had decided
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prior to the breakup did you guys have a title then when you guys were together for what eight
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months or something or um no we didn't have a title because i like i said was out of my relationship
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and i didn't feel like i was ready to be like fully locked into someone okay so it was more
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just like okay this is someone i have a really good connection with we are compatible on a lot
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of things but like i don't want to hold myself or him to a standard that we can't like follow
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through on so until i felt like that but then once we decided to separate because i was more
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ready for a commitment and he was not so I was like okay will you go do you so I guess find what
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I need so you guys pretty much right now you have a planned breakup yes okay got it huh okay I see
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um interesting interesting so although it's all right um you're leaving so you're not trying to
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have anything more I guess um but you're not totally single right so like if a guy were to
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hit on you at the grocery store that you found attractive and he was like hey can I get your
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number would you no so you'd tell him you're taken no it's just I just don't really believe
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for myself being involved with more than one person at a time like physically because I'm
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all about clean and safety so it's like if I'm going to be involved with this one person physically
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that's it and until we decide like okay that's off or I let him know like hey I'm going to go
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explore my options i'm gonna just respectfully decline well let's say um okay i'm just thinking
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of a scenario where like conceivably a guy could approach you who you find more attractive
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than your current guy or whatever yeah what's your reasoning for turning down like an attractive guy
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that comes up to you just say in the store like why are you going to turn him down but you're not
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going to turn down this situationship that you have well as of right now it's because like i'm
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moving so it's like there's no point in me putting like energy or wasting someone else's time you
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know so i guess yeah yeah it makes sense makes sense uh so why are you putting that energy into
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something you know is going to end like what's your justification for that or like it's continuity
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comfort probably um i think it's more just the like it's the ease of like okay like i don't have
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to stress like because of your girl brain right like when you don't have an end date right it's
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like okay well maybe my delulu will kick in i'm like oh maybe he'll want to commit maybe he'll
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want to do this but it's like we both know this is going to end at some point so it takes the
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pressure and the stress of like oh my god like the insecurity all that and because it's just like
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we're just going to enjoy each other for as long as this shit lasts like and that's just it yeah
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i guess so yes i mean i mean from an outside point of view i'm not in your head i'm not in his head
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it just looks like you're using him for sex and like not being alone like you don't want to be
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outside of relationship and you don't want to lose the sex therefore I want to keep this guy
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around I want to keep my arm candy around yeah you can absolutely say that okay that's very fair
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yeah but I guess I the the single thing is you because I asked your relationship status you said
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single well just because like i'm not gonna like claim like a false advertisement i'm not gonna
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claim to be something that i'm not so like he's not gonna tell people i'm his girlfriend so i'm
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not gonna tell him that that's my boyfriend because that's just ridiculous but there would
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be other categories besides single that would describe your situation that don't go to the
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extent of i'm in a relationship i have a boyfriend i would say you are you you might not want to put
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the title of boyfriend i would categorize you as in a relationship but at the bare minimum you are
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seeing a guy you're not single i like to use the term boot up i think that boot up yeah i'm just
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i'm boot up like oh boot up what boo oh boo a boo now yeah a boo okay i get you boot up yeah i
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thought you were saying buddha for a second i thought you were saying boot up like a computer
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that's what i thought second of all boot up does anybody remember that like from the 90s that
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it was like one of the first 3d animated things reboot that was that shit was the that was the
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shit that was the bomb yo reboot with the fucking oh man and then like that little kid grew up and
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he had a fucking he had like a five o'clock shadow and he's all fucking jacked i actually remember
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this and there was like wait fuck there was hexadecimal oh my god wait there's like probably
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like 10 people in the chat who know what i'm talking about reboot it was this 3d thing oh my
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god that was the shit there was hexadecimal there was wait fuck what was the name of the
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the the the the the male bad guy chat what was the name of the male bad guy uh man it was megatron
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fong megabyte yeah megabyte back when megabytes were like actually a lot of space
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goodness nintendo 64 it was 64 megabytes right the nintendo 64 nothing to do with dating by the way
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and guys remember like the purple spheres would like come down and like dude that was so fucking
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cool where are the like kind of like quirky you know i know i know this is totally off topic but
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fuck it where are those like with with i don't know if you guys know this there's like a homogeneity
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homogen homogenous homogeneity i'm not sure if i'm saying exactly how to pronounce it but now
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that you say it i don't know how homogen homogenous well i know yeah i know homogenous
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but homogeneity i don't know movies that thing movies um well yeah movies music and i guess
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all forms of like i don't know it's very like cookie cutter in a way like i feel like with
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music especially like in the 90s that you would have like kind of these like kind of unique
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i don't know i need to think this out homogen homogenetical i don't know you you would have
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like two princes wait no hold on that's not the song i'm thinking of fuck whatever it doesn't
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matter anyways moving on warning incoming game yes and then the fucking bro that shit was so cool
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Oh, fuck. Okay. Anyways, moving on. All right. Relationship status?
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All right. Wow. 25 years. And how long were you with him before the marriage?
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It's going to freak you out. But we knew each other six weeks before we got engaged and six months before we got married.
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I'm kind of actually all for this. So far, you're selling me.
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Okay. So you knew each other six months, you said?
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Yeah, I met him when I was 24 and turned 25, yeah.
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I'm assuming that's your longest relationship, though.
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How soon after the seven-year relationship ended did you start dating your now husband?
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Pretty clean there, unless shit was going down in high school, I don't know, or after
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And you have, were you married to the seven-year?
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um a question for you the custody arrangement from your ex shared custody or
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kind of a long story um give us the short version the short version so
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he basically was not in her life and then his parents kind of got in the middle of it and we
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got a every other weekend situation and then seven years into it he married and then we had
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I never kept her from seeing him but he they wanted a firm agreement which was Wednesday night
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and every other weekend which lasted till she was about 14 and then she just saw him sporadically
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at that point so she was primarily with me and my husband most of her life
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okay all right um did he pay you child support or not at first not at all um and then sporadically
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and then when he got married and they took his taxes he started paying it religiously after that
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um but a very small amount i never asked for an increase until she was about 14 i was pregnant
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with my son and she was going to cheerleading nationals i was like hey can you throw a little
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extra money because i won't be going with her um he told me no he had to pay i think it was like
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285 a month and then when we went my husband said take him back to court this is 285 you know he he
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makes a lot more money this is ridiculous and um they changed it to 996 a month based off of what
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he made when she was in ninth grade so yeah we finally started getting normal but i mean in high
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school you have cars and she cheered and it uh it did help but she was expensive uh yeah yeah
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all right uh what about you my relationship status is in a committed relationship uh but i
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was married for a very long time before that for 15 years and i was with the same guy for 20 before
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that you you're with my ex-husband yeah 20 years total yeah and how long is your current relationship
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status uh 11 months almost a year okay um any kids i have three kids with my ex-husband three
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with the ex-husband yes okay um actually i'm gonna come to that really quick just really quick going
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back to you um any particular reason it ended with the uh the father of your first child
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um so I kept kind of waiting for him to be a man and he was kind of waiting for me to be the man
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and then when I finished college and he was on my couch every week and he still wasn't doing
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anything I was just over it because he left when I was pregnant like I just I'm from the south you
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know you you want to be you're having a baby with this guy you want to be married to this guy you
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want to make this work and it was very I'm doing all the things to make it work while he's laying
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on the couch and this just did he have a job um he did work all kinds of jobs at that point
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like so when you say he was just laying around the house uh did he have a full-time job he did
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he he had more than one job no he just won oh just one full-time job but what I'm saying is
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were you working too oh yeah okay I was I finished college he didn't I was progressing
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our family forward and he was just kind of there it wasn't a team effort it was a one-way effort
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if that makes sense and I just well was he contributing to the bills no but he was working
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though yes and you guys were living together no no well when you say he was just laying around
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the house his his he would come to my apartment like he he would be at my apartment this is when
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you had a kid yes right okay yeah um he was just there and it just kind of just so what were the
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things that you would have liked to have seen him more involved with doing i guess just progressing
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in your life i mean maybe finish your degree um move out of your parents house uh wait how old
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was he at this point if i was uh he was like 26 27 he's almost four years older than me okay um
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now was he assisting like taking care of the kid when he would get her every other weekend but he
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lived when you guys were still together yeah yeah wait when you were still together he was only
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he would get her on the weekends yeah but really his mother got her because he lived there and so
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So he still went out and still did all the things he would usually do.
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When I didn't have my daughter with me, I was young.
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he just wasn't putting forth the effort at all to be together. I see. And he really liked to
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cheat. Oh, he was cheating on you. Was also awesome. Um, yeah, it was a whole thing. You
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know, teenage love when you're young, you don't. Hey, if I'm on my phone, just don't even put it
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on me. You don't, you don't think about, Hey, is this dude going to be a great dad and husband?
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you're not thinking that so and then uh going so going to you um you uh were married when sorry
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when did you split up with your husband uh late 2024 is when the problems really started and
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the divorce was finalized last year okay so when you say problems what do you mean can you give us
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details um we grew apart up in the sense of attraction uh getting our emotional needs met
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uh resentment grew into contempt and that's a recipe for a relationship ending
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who was resentful you or he was also resentful we got we got pretty you know passive aggressive
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with each other which leads to resentment which leads to criticism which leads to
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so it was a mutual escalation of not liking each other uh yes i tried my very best to bring the
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relationship back forward i mean i was pregnant or breastfeeding kids for a long time right so
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you know you kind of put yourself in the backseat you're not important so i started to
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take care of myself again and be the woman he fell in love with and unfortunately it didn't
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who initiated the divorce we got to switch cameras please um huh i i initiated the divorce
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okay um uh what did you cite on the divorce for what was the reason or whatever
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What about your respective, was there a distribution of any, he paid you, you paid him, in terms of settling the community property or whatever?
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there was quite a bit of that so there's like a lump sum payment or yes in which direction
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um from you to him or him to you i gave him a house i remodeled the whole thing
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and he moved into it so wait he got the house in the divorce no i kept my house that i built
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oh um but i flip houses slash build ground up and so one of the houses that i was flipping at the
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time was in my same city and so instead of flipping it i just said why don't you just
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keep this house and move into it oh okay so you gave him a house yes and in terms of
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any sort of distribution of uh resources or money or i gave him property yeah oh you
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paid him money too yes did he give you anything or no no so you were the breadwinner in the
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relationship primary yes primary breadwinner he was working but you made more yes but you know
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it's i didn't hate him we didn't have we have three children together we know that um he's
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gonna be in my life forever you know even when they're 18 you know they're gonna get married
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they're going to have grandkids. So I know that if at any given point, uh, he's struggling
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financially, my kids are going to feel that. And I never wanted them to feel that. Okay. That's
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pretty, pretty reasonable, I would say. Um, so you guys were married for 15 years, you said? Yes.
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What was he doing for work? Uh, he's also in the real estate related field, but you were better.
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I was in a more commissionable slash self-employed state, yes.
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Now, so if you had to do like a multiplier, how much more were you out earning in buy 2x?
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Okay, so it's fair to say you were probably making around half a mil a year.
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Oh, sometimes you made seven figures in a year?
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Well, I get one, I guess, congrats on the success.
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But the reason I say wow is because I think if the roles were reversed while you – well, you said you gave him money too.
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But you're not paying him like an ongoing alimony, which –
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No, I gave him enough assets that are passive income to supplement.
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Oh, so you transferred, like, some real estate holdings to him?
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Assets, assets that generate, not necessarily apartments.
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Sometimes I lend my own money, hard money, and that generates interest income.
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So, and were there lawyers involved in the divorce?
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Okay, was the divorce combative or collaborative?
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Usually the lawyer has to get permission from the other party,
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Because there's a bit of a conflict of interest when usually each person wants their own lawyer.
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I told him, you need to consult with two other attorneys.
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I laid out all the discoveries, basically, and said, this is everything.
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if you need more than you know these are the things that are going to have to happen but
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um he was very fair he wasn't you know and i was very fair too i did not give him
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the short end of the stick yeah you didn't just tell him to fuck off i guess um and he's an he's
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an amazing person we were just not right good for each other question for you though um had
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had he been a bit more litigious, uh, do you think that while you're saying that what you
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offered to him in the divorce was fair, do you think, uh, he could have gotten more given divorce
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laws? Uh, potentially, but the amount would have been negligible after capital gains taxes for
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assets that I would have to sell. Okay. And at the end of the day, uh, they're just assets. I'm
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leaving the kids. So it kind of was, if you want to get rid of them, we can, but you're just taking
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away things from our children. Okay. So you had a lot of, you had things tied up with, you know,
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real estate and yeah. So yeah. Okay. It all, I'm like, this is all, and he's my default person.
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And if I pass away, all of my assets are going to him.
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I'm not going to – I trust him to take care of him.
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Obviously, there are – when the woman is the breadwinner, the primary breadwinner,
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there are instances where she's going to have to give the guy money or give him consideration.
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So I do wonder, though, if the roles were reversed.
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Obviously, I don't know all the details of, you know, your financial situation.
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You're telling me that there's like an equitable, fair distribution.
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But the no alimony, that to me after, because, for example,
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um we had a woman on the show two weeks ago she was married to a guy for like 10-15 years
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she's getting lifetime alimony from him um i guess the no alimony thing when you were
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significantly out earning him is a bit interesting um although it sounds like you have
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offered him you did offer him a good amount and he's he's good but i think i could see perhaps
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a woman in the same situation being a bit more ruthless yeah i mean i don't know yeah i mean
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statistically speaking that's what uh most divorce lawyers see when the role is reversed not saying
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every single time but in the majority of cases when the roles are reversed um uh the the man
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usually says he pays his lawyer here's two thousand bucks come to me when the divorce is over
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he just wants to get over with. And usually, uh, when divorce lawyers deal with the females
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in the, in the situation, it's very much them. I want, I want to fight him tooth and nail. I want
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to take his property, his money, literally everything. Um, which I think there are like,
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I understand where that comes from. Um, but they are very, very, I guess, aggressive in those
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pursuits. I need to, um, I need to get up for a moment to deal with something. Um, can you guys
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like carry the conversation for 10, 15 minutes and like, keep in mind, there's 5,000 people
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watching right now. Please don't make it like boring chitter chatter, like actually have an
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engaging convo. So take it away. I go for it. Yeah. So yeah, I think, um, yeah, in those
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circumstances, uh, for some reason it's just like, I think it's built into females nature
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where they're a lot more aggressive in those divorce proceedings.
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What people don't understand or fail to realize is that when you do have those high profile divorces or high net worth divorces,
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the attorneys are the ones that all they see is a goldmine because they know that there's the ability to pay attorney's fees.
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So if you have the ex-husband paying attorney's fees and you have the ex-wife paying attorney's fees,
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within two years you can rack up half a million dollars in attorney's fees easily so that's
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another thing that I brought up is we can fight each other tooth and nail oh yeah and we can
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have half a million dollars just go poof yeah yeah no I totally agree like in your situation
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I think this is a very this is a very like the extremity situation it's not going to happen
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super often it makes sense because um like what i'm trying to suggest is say the man is making
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as much as you were making and the woman's making as much as he's making or that similar
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circumstance just flipped um that's the case in which most divorce lawyers will see the woman
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fight tooth and nail to make sure like he feels it in the divorce or like in your circumstance
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um like you realize you're in you're the one making most you're the breadwinner you're making
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have three children that we were trying to protect
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i think that is wise um but still in the opposite case like even if three four or five children are
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involved in most cases when it's the situation is reversed it doesn't really seem to inhibit
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that desire from the female's point of view to really want to take everything and make him feel
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that um so i i i i feel like it kind of plays to like gender roles right where it's like as women
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most women I think we feel like it is like a man's duty to like provide and protect so like
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even when you're leaving that marriage especially if there's like infidelity and things there's like
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a sense of entitlement which I can understand from like a woman it's like okay well you're
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making more I'm making less like you've been accustomed to this lifestyle so then like you
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feel like you should still be able to keep your lifestyle based off whatever the circumstances
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were for being divorced whereas men because of the gender roles they might just like not like
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you said be as like cutthroat of like no I'm gonna get mine because they feel like okay well like
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she's the female like it's not her job to provide for me so I think maybe that's why maybe some men
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take a back step but there are men who are ruthless because my sister's ex-husband he cheated
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on her and she was like the full sole provider like he was working for her like he was literally
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getting his money from her and then when they were getting divorced because of his infidelity
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he was still thought like he was going to keep his car his boat the house like all these things
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and was like no baby it's time for you to go be a man and figure out your life because that's why
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you cheated because you wanted something else so go find it and she still like you know gave him
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what he came with you know but it's like I think that's why maybe that's what you're saying like
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Like, some women are more aggressive because there's, like, that entitlement to it.
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Well, no, I think it's just, like, it's the system in general.
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Women are just extremely aggressive in these divorce proceedings.
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Because I think referencing those sex roles where men do feel like they need to provide and protect,
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they are held to a standard that, like, they need to still hold to their typical gender roles or sex roles,
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where women are never like they never need to hold to their gender roles their sex roles they're
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never held to that standard and i think that is just it's reflected in the divorce proceedings
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because a woman doesn't have to worry about being virtuous being accommodating being kind respectful
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because those are the virtues that the are usually seen in like a healthy relationship out of the
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woman and those virtues are essentially sucked out when it comes to divorce and they're not held
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to that standard where men are just usually vehemently attacked when they're not held
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to their own standard of being that provider and protector so that they suffer the consequences
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in those divorce proceedings but usually on the other side when the woman just brushes
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off her gender sex roles there's not really too much consequence for it it's usually met
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with more of an understanding like I get why you're why you do that I can see from your
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situation why you're reacting that way whereas if a man brushed off his gender roles and said hey
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i'm not going to provide i'm not going to protect i'm going to try to pull everything out of her
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like immediately he's attacked he's villainized and um i see it as a huge problem i think it's
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like also like female male brain type of thing where it's like women were obviously more emotional
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creatures like things are very gray area for us and i feel like with men it's very much like black
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and white how they move so it's like if you look at general breakups right like a guy will absolutely
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get over a girl way quicker than she'll get over him and like she could carry that pettiness or
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whatever because i think actually um that's it's actually the reverse usually no it is it's actually
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true i feel that way too yeah um women it usually takes them like it's a lot shorter of a time for
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them to get over a breakup whereas men it takes a very very very long time because there is that
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I think what plays into it a little bit is that having that provider and protector status that
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you're trying to hold on to like we are it's built into our DNA as men we must protect we must provide
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for the woman that we love I say it's it's the way God designed us it's supposed to be our second
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half um so and then one that's stripped away from us it's like well we we've just lost our
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like our meaning in life when it comes to having that second half like it's gone now what do i do
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with that and um i mean uh what we find in the bible and i think we see this in nature itself
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um the the woman is usually is designed as the helper like to be that team player with the man
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the support and um yeah essentially that's taken away uh from the man you're at that support
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and um yeah i think that's it's easier for a woman to get over it's much harder for a man to get over
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yeah maybe i've just encountered i think different men and that's and that's where i guess you can
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say the value stance of it right like you said like when you're thinking of like like you said
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your better half your rib like when you're thinking of it like in a base standpoint like
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But I think a lot of people don't have that foundation.
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They're very quick to just discard and move on to the next shiny thing.
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Well, and the thing is, I think faith, the biblical point of view, is foundational.
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But we see that through statistical analysis, how quickly women can move into a new relationship.
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And it seems like they're just totally fine versus men.
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I mean, I've seen about a billion Instagram reels.
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of men talking about how like i've been i've divorced they're not divorced broke up with
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this chick five years ago and i'm still not over it um i mean obviously that's like case by case
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but statistically speaking that is accurate because you've also like you use the like
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gone into another relationship i think maybe that's where some of my mindset differs a little
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bit too it's not so as like um like he'll get into another relationship quickly but he's like
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willing to like be with someone else whether it's like physically like quicker yeah well yeah in my
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Yeah, and I'm not suggesting that just because you get into a relationship really quickly, it means that you've healed from your last one.
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I think the vast majority of people who, I mean, pretty much every single person who has gotten out of a relationship and jumps into a new one immediately,
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like, they're trying to heal the pain that they feel by, I don't know, with that new person.
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And essentially ruining the future with this new person.
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And it actually, I mean, it hurts them as well along that process.
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yeah 100 yeah so i gotta say um i was pretty miserable in my marriage for the last two years
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that it lasted and women the reason why women move on really fast is because women will literally
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stay in a relationship until there was nothing left like i tried everything every stone was
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turned over twice and looked at over and over and then you're just numb there's nothing left
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and you just it's time to go and that's when you know when when you would rather live in a cardboard
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box tend to sit in that house for five more seconds you're like this it's just done and
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there's a there's a whole big difference in a scorned divorce and an amicable divorce i know
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lots of people who have divorced just like her they just fell out of it they still loved each
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other but it didn't work they hacked everything they moved on and then i have friends that were
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cheated on that were like i'm gonna take i'm i'm gonna take everything i can get my hands on it
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It depends on what leads up to the divorce, I think, of how it plays out.
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Regardless of sex roles, it's just your mindset going into it.
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Yeah, well, I mean, I understand there are circumstances.
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Yes, I know those circumstances that do happen.
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However, I mean, statistically speaking, it's usually men that will last the longest in a relationship.
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They will go through, like, they realize they're held to that standard, that provider and protector role.
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and they will hold to that even though they are absolutely miserable i know there are times when
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men will initiate a divorce but statistically speaking what is it like 70 to 80 percent of
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divorces are initiated by women yeah i think you're correct on that yeah so like men will
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they will literally yeah they would rather die in with that family unit still intact
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versus i'm gonna go try to find something else but i feel like even though they are miserable
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the reason why women initiate more too is because what you're saying like men will just stay in it
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yeah but like a lot of them will then end up being unfaithful or this not because like they would
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rather go cheat and disrespect versus like just ending the relationship so it almost like takes
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the woman to get to the point of like you know what okay like i'm for them to leave the man well
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i think this also comes into um the understanding of like so women's brains are very emotional i
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I think in men's brains, we see things black and white, very rationally based versus like
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in the moment, I'm not saying women have no rationality, but generally speaking, their
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They love to see, I mean, they love to see their children happy.
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I mean, there's that exuberance that comes out of a home because of a woman.
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Me as a man, I don't really bring that exuberance.
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But anyway, so the reason I think the divorces are initially or so much overwhelmingly initiated by women is that they base their decisions on emotion.
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Like today or like over the last, let's say, two, three years, I felt terribly about this marriage.
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I would rather live in a cardboard box because I feel awful.
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well and then i'm going to base my decision on that even though i know this is going to be
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splitting up the home for these four or five children and it's going to ruin their life but
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emotionally i feel terrible whereas men like we see it very rationally where we look at okay yes
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i feel terrible like those emotions do occur for men as hard as that is to believe i can feel
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terrible but i look at that emotion but then i look at the rational but i'll be destroying our
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family that we've built i can't let that happen because i i know the the terribly rigorous
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stress trauma uh that it's going to bring upon our family it's going to ruin it it's going to
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tear our children apart i know the statistics of like the the children who are in a divorced
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household i know the terrible stuff that comes out of that so i need to make sure i hold this
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together even though i will be miserable till the day i die those people are more important than
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myself and i'm not saying that every man is thinking that like consciously subconsciously
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that is usually the motivation motivation or motivating factor for why they try to hold that
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family together because they are held to the standard of that provider and protector yeah
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i mean it's absolutely valid like a lot of people like you said where they consider like the whole
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like kids and everything i think that's sometimes where it splits too is like um like the role model
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aspect of like is it better to show your children to stay in a marriage you're unhappy and just
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to so like they'll be okay for the moment like until they're like pretty much out of your house
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or is it better for you to show your children like hey like if you're not getting what you
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deserve on both sides male or female it's better for you to walk away and go find what you deserve
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yeah you have to model the relationship because then you're gonna so do you really want to so I
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guess pushing back a little bit do you really want to show them that like splitting up this
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divinely instituted relationship is what you should do I feel like if like okay circumstance
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right like if I'm in this marriage it's not working and we've like gone to counseling and
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we've done all these things to like put the work in and it's still not working or one person's still
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not getting treated the way they deserve then like i would be okay with my child seeing that
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like hey if you put in everything you could and it's still not working because one or both are
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not putting in the effort then like there's a point when you have to walk away but yeah if
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you're just saying like oh well like i'm unhappy right now he's not you know whatever this person's
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whatever but isn't walk away then yeah that's fine well so like but isn't the i'm not happy
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with this like just saying uh we've tried to go to counseling stuff like that but it's not working
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out isn't that really just the what's underlying all of those statements i'm just not very happy
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with this person and you're just trying to usually just trying to make up something to
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justify why we need to end this relationship well i feel like if you've done counseling you've
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actually like had the proper channels of communication to try to figure out how to
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make each other happy and you still have found zero conclusion like where do you i mean where
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do you go from that point like i'm asking i mean i have some thoughts uh at least on this general
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topic um going back to you so okay you got divorced uh when did you guys split up uh end of
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2024 so uh two years ago or one and a half years ago one and a half years ago wait hold on
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wait wait wait wait wait uh like divorced or like separated separated where he we were not sharing
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the same bedroom anymore. A year and a half ago. Correct. And that's why it's not healthy for the
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kids to see that. Hold on. But the divorce was finalized when? 2025. 2025. And, but you were
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separated a year and a half ago. Correct. Do you know what month about? Around December of 2024.
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Okay. Now, so it's April now. So a year, a year and four months. Yeah. We were living pretty
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parallel lives before that parallel lives like we weren't we would never come together really
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um okay until i asked him to you know i think it's better if he moved downstairs now you said
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you were in a relationship for one year 11 months that's sort of may of 2025 okay um how did you
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meet that guy uh one of my long long time friends he was actually at my wedding introduced me to him
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and said um there might be some vibes here um wait introduced go ahead he he said you know why
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don't you um he's like man dating in la is awful you know these these guys are not it they like
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want to be chased they wanted they want the woman to text first like okay princess what's your shoe
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size like you know don't it's so my friend he's like man um and he's uh in a more conservative
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part of town he's like I'm gonna I'm gonna introduce you to this person I'm just gonna
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make the introduction um and if you can get him I will bow down to you I think he's an unattainable
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guy wait the i'm a bit confused the guy who you're currently with uh-huh was introduced to me by one
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of my best friends he was at your wedding he was at my wedding wait your best friend who did the
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introduction yes one of my one of my very good friends the guy guy the guy you're currently with
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yes was he the one who was at your wedding no he was not at my wedding the guy that was at my
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wedding introduced me to my boyfriend so you didn't know him the guy who you're currently with
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no idea who he was okay never met him he basically just did a here i'm gonna show you uh he had
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talked they had like bonded over their divorces and stuff like that and he said uh you know why
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don't you take my friend out and he said oh no i'm not interested in women like they're a bunch
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of trouble he goes here how about now and he's like okay maybe I'll take her out and uh I was
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just gonna go on a date like one date because it's but so you were like what six this is uh
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six months post separation that you met this yes
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and you were married you were together with this guy for 20 years correct married for 15
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Grieved the loss of the marriage over two years.
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I begged my ex-husband to take me on a date for two years.
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You told your ex-husband in an effort to make it work, you said what?
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yeah and so he spent time together again and so uh you asked him to take you out on dates
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and he refused yeah i said just plan something buy me flowers on a random tuesday just because
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you're thinking about me it could be a flower he should buy you flowers i wanted him to do
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something for me that he loved me was he depressed i think so but was he just moping around the house
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He was working and then he was out of work for a vast majority of 2024, which is where I said, okay, well, he's not working anymore.
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So maybe now his job is going to be, I'm going to pay attention to my wife here.
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like you mean example um like oh yeah way to go that's a great let's say let's do it harder
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because it's easier for you or you know things comments talking about sex or what are we talking
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about no we're talking about like if we're putting up uh a shelf in like our kids bedroom or
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something when we're redecorating you know getting them like a nursery to like a kid's room
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and we have like a laser pointer and I'm like reading the directions and how to use it on the
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tripod and all that he's like well let's just do it your way because let's do it the hard way
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because it's easier for you or you know very critical okay so he'd be kind of sassy yeah
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and then you said you would be a little bit critical critical towards him how so
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the trash has been full for a while like you know that's your job why don't you do it now was there
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somebody who started this war who took the first shot I did of course I did uh I'm I'm gonna take
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full responsibility for that so you started nagging him yes I resented I resented him for
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a lot of things. For what? Not taking the trash out? Maybe not initiating. There was a moment in
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time where I had our son, our first child. He's 12 now, so this was a long time ago. Yeah. And I
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profusely apologized to him because I was such a bitch and I shouldn't have been. But I resented
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him because as a woman, your life changes. But I still worked. I took care of the child. I still
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had all the domestic duties so and he gets up showers goes to work gets to be stuck in traffic
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for an hour each way like and I have to do all of this by myself so at some point in the morning
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I have my son like crying and I can't even make myself breakfast because I have to tend to my son
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and my emails are piling up, my phone's ringing, and I'm like, I can't even make myself a breakfast
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quickly because he didn't wash the dishes last night. Were you, um, and this is when your son
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was a newborn, your first kid. It wouldn't say it was the first, the fourth, what they call the
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fourth trimester of having children is that newborn. Yeah. And, um, were you taking time
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off work at this point um I did take some time off of work uh but not as much as I could because
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I were you working from home correct I moved my office into my house um but you took some time
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off I'm assuming I did I took about I mean six weeks is not enough but I mean I was still working
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because you just you run a business you have to continue to run it at that time uh because it
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sounds like, uh, you were, you were out earning him, but at that time, were you earning more
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than him or was he the primary breadwinner then? I was still, you were still making more than,
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but not enough to the point where like he, he still had to work. Uh, yes. Uh, at that point,
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I wasn't earning what I earned in the subsequent years, but he actually earned more in the
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He earned more, and this is all real estate stuff.
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I'm in the mortgage and you buy a house, the crappiest house.
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Yeah, the crappiest house in the best neighborhood.
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Correct. Okay. Um, it's not really a world I'm super familiar with, but I don't think that that
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matters all too much, but okay. So you were both doing that. You had a better, uh, you did better
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than him. You were both doing the same thing. Basically. Is that fair to say? He works in a
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more office clerical role. Okay. You were more the hustler. Yes. Okay. So you were flipping houses,
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renovating them turning a profit doing mortgages all this stuff um okay uh you were out earning
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him though but initially he was out earning you uh but you said one time i said these words and
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it was so bad and i apologized profusely for him but it almost everything was his fault and i was
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so critical and he deserves um a medal of patience and honor for the words that i said i mean having
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so much responsibility by myself with no help was very difficult that doesn't excuse the criticism
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that he received well so you said it sounded like there was yeah i said like a really bad thing that
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Yeah. I mean, I'm like, I really need help with the dishes. Like if I'm, if I'm in the bedroom,
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putting your son down to sleep for the night, I need you to be doing the dishes. And one day I
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saw him and he was sleeping on the couch, taking a nap. And I all but yelled, you are not allowed
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to sit on the couch until those dishes are clean. I am in the bedroom, putting your son to bed.
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i need help and that was the wrong way to communicate that very wrong way so i know that
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that was entirely my fault and but so you know when you're in a relationship uh these
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issues can often be ongoing um you gave us one example of an instance where that happened
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But was this a, and perhaps he could have been more helpful, was this a pattern, was this a frequent occurrence happening daily, weekly?
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It was, I want to say, like once or twice a month that it was that serious.
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and was so frustrated and amped up because I was so tired and I just needed support and I wasn't
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getting it um that your hormones are shot because you just gave birth to a baby you have all of this
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work you have very little support at home you're I'm spent you know no one's filling my cup and
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i'm filling everybody else's cup so as my son got older you know we got a better schedule
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um this saint of a man was still there and i i apologized to him i see i knew that was wrong
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but what you apologized a couple months later a couple years later how long a few months later
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when things normalized, when we got our new normal, so to speak, I started reflecting on
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things and I'm like, he didn't deserve that. Um, I shouldn't have said that or communicated that
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way. My delivery was awful. Um, I should have said something different. Now you had, but also
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you went on to have two more kids. So you have three kids total. I would imagine having these
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other kids that creates additional burden uh additional complications it's not just one kid
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which is already a handful it's two kids and then three kids and then managing all that and then the
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increased burden financially of having more kids um but so you took when i asked the question who
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took the first shot in this war you said you did so i mean i suppose on one hand it's you have
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some degree of self you have a degree well not just a degree you do have self-awareness uh you
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are taking accountability um but you you said that uh can you repeat what you said to him that first
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like that first blow up that you had when you said you like you yelled at him what did you say
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asked for help and um it was very difficult to put our son to bed it's like an hour process
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and obviously men cannot breastfeed so that was solely my job um and i need help if i'm doing
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something with your child you know i'm busy i cannot be in the kitchen at the same time
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and i would ask him you know i would really appreciate your help if you can help me clean
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the kitchen while I'm doing our son's bedtime routine and he agreed to do it but I must have
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had an awful day and I came out after an hour hour and a half of putting my son down to bed
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and the kitchen was still dirty and he was on the couch sleeping and that put me into
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not being respectful caring um like i just laid down on the couch for a minute i was tired
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like you're tired like it's it goes into all of those conversations you're tired like
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i work just like you did you know while caring for a three-month-old baby
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okay all the while yeah yeah so okay cooking the meals you know breastfeeding breastfeeding is a
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full-time job like when you're breastfeeding a three-month-old baby you're breastfeeding that
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baby half an hour every three hours now when this whole blow-up happened did it turn into a yelling
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match an argument did he yell back or was he apologetic what was it a long argument i don't
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know if you've ever had like a fucking three hour two hour two hour one hour argument was it just
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that brief one minute blow up or was it it's it's very brief he was very patient that's why i said
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he's a saint for taking all of that he was a saint for me and that's why i said i apologized
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multiple times for that but then i mean obviously i was the first time mom i had no idea what i was
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doing that doesn't excuse or my behavior what did you say again though remind me what you said to him
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now look obviously it's like i can't fuck the maid that's fine i can't fuck you know i can't
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cheat on you like of course but i can't rest in my fucking house okay it's over it's a fucking
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divorce no woman can tell me is gonna boss me around like that i would never i'm sorry it's
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a fucking divorce whatever we're gonna do 50 50 with the fucking kids it's fucking over i'm sorry
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so yeah he's very very patient as you said um but uh in my defense i did ask nicely in the beginning
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and i said how much that helps me that the kitchen's clean in the morning just coming home
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i mean going into the kitchen that's clean it just need his side of the story yo
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where is he tell him the drive where is he where is he at he's in la uh he he lives like two minutes
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away from me yeah all right we're gonna tell it he's that black baby's fucking out here we're
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gonna fucking tell him what is his what's i'm gonna make up a name for him uh fucking
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bartholomew if you're watching this shit bart bartholomew we need your side of the story
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hey this podcast goes long i know it's like a two hour plus drive from los angeles
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luckily you know it's getting later so it's probably after rush hour you get in your fucking
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car bartholome you send me a dm on instagram are you okay with this though if he comes on the
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podcast instagram i usually will not date someone if they're on instagram aren't your own instagram
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whatever it's just my family really it's my kids on there it's not do you think he's watching
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no okay well if she's cool with it because i don't want to blind sign it i don't want to be
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like jerry springer where i'm fucking blindsiding people if she's cool with it and you get in touch
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with me we'll hear your side of the story if she's cool with it and you're down and if you're
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even fucking watching which you probably aren't but i don't know i think he'll be much kinder
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i'm i'm very critical on myself i yeah you know but that's the nice guy he's probably a nice guy
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i don't know but i imagine this was like not it was an ongoing thing uh i don't know maybe you'd
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because look for men respect is everything i know respect is everything and it's like
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men want to feel like they're the man of the house and when you got your wife bossing you
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around you got your wife you can't do this you can't do that do the fucking dishes bitch
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little pussy boy do the dishes bitch i didn't say it like that well that's what that's the
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that's the interpretation yes the frustrating part was that I had communicated I need help I
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just cannot do everything but you were you were working from home right and like he you said he
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was commuting so like he would commute an hour to work an hour back it's a pain sitting in a car
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for an hour uh he's probably he's got his own shit he's working and it's like I mean you were
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working too but i do feel like when you are working from home like you can work and kind of
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multitask a little bit i did i had i had no choice but to i was in massive survival mode
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this is why honestly bro we gotta we gotta bring we gotta bring back traditional gender roles we
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can't we can't have women working because when they're working no offense like when they're
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working right they're just fucking look at from a purely from a purely like pragmatic perspective
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if there are things that need to be done in the household the children need to be taken care of
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and you have a full-time job it's too much something's gonna suffer well it's too much
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so it's like it's just like it's not even about um it's just from a purely realistic perspective
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there's not enough time to both have a full-time job and be like paying attention to the you know
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cleaning the house taking care of the kids this is why i think we need a return to patriarchy
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we gotta i don't know we gotta men men make the big bucks let the men make the big bucks
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you guys make some fucking sourdough bread make the sourdough clean the kids let them suck on the
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nip or whatever, whatever it is you do, the breastfeeding or whatever. Um, you know, have
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you guys seen the, the man boobs? That shit's crazy, but I don't know. I think, uh, in a
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situation where it's like the man's working, the woman's working, it's like, yeah, I think
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something's gonna, like, there's going to be conflict because the kid needs attention.
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The house needs attention. Like, how do you, how do you juggle all those things? Maybe it can be
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done but it's going to be it's going to be stressful it's going to be hard we've tried
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this since like the 60s and 70s it's only gone downhill from then so let's like let's go back
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to where i'm with like things are back things are solid structured back to the i would love to
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go ahead i do agree like it that it's all i do believe it would be better right if one person's
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working and one person's like doing more of the domestic stuff that's just it's it meshes well
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but realistically that's just not going to be the case so I feel like what you hit on like respect
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absolutely is like that's the one thing a man does 100 requires respect like that can make or break
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but I feel like nowadays women also require respect so in a way like she was disrespectful
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for thinking she could tell him like oh you're not allowed to sit on this couch but it's also
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disrespectful and for him in a way to see how exhausted she was and like not just immediately
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do it because what would it take maybe 20 minutes to do the dishes but he let himself fall asleep
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so that's passively disrespectful so i understand what you're saying but how see how her complaint
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wasn't respect it was take me out on dates like show me love give me flowers the special yeah
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romance me again the thing okay so i mean again i'm just gonna dive right into this i mean why
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do you think uh in scripture it tells like the men you need to be able you need to love your wives
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and wives you need to respect your husbands so how she i want my husband to woo me to give me
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flowers to show that he loves me like just ignite something let's get going and he like what killed
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him was her disrespecting him like saying those like you're not allowed to sit on the couch until
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you get this work done like showing that him hey i don't respect that you drive an hour to work
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you work and do your thing and drive an hour home you're not even allowed to take a break like
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from his point of view he's not allowed to even like relax a little bit so it's like taking away
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that respect that he really needs and him taking away the love that she really needs um i mean the
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The way that, since we are wired differently, we need different things.
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And I think, I mean, we're just harping on your story.
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But, I mean, this story is, like, exactly why that is evident.
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That's why the rules, when you go against your traditional gender rules, that's why it doesn't work.
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In that one moment, she emasculated him and became his mother.
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well essentially she's trying to take the husband role yeah i mean you were taking the husband role
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i'm going to make make the most money i'm going to also do the the motherly role and take care
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of the kids so you're essentially taking both roles and it's like there's so many things just
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out of whack with that relationship um yeah essentially just tearing down the foundation
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of all of civilization and saying that ended it though because we came back we had two more
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children. I was mom pro max after the first one with the second one. I mean, I was happy to do
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it all at that point. We're pretty financially set and I didn't have to work as hard and it was
01:55:47.140
wonderful. Um, it was after the second child was born that things started to surface again because
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now everybody is potty trained and or in preschool or school and now okay I'm back I'm I have an
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identity outside of being a mother and you know mothering these children and being pregnant and
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breastfeeding so I started paying attention to myself again and wanted their relationship to
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go back to what it was and I tried very hard but I think it was too late. You know what I think
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it's very hard to have sex with a woman who's disrespecting like you know look i just think
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you know the erection just like if you just aren't the man in the room i just never did that
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again it happened with our first child with the second and third child that's why we had a third
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child because i was mom pro max with the two was there a period of erectile dysfunction no okay i
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read that wrong then well look i don't know i think that uh you told us one scenario that
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happened that was the worst probably there's some other it probably happened other times too i guess
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yeah you know what i think i think i think what wait what's that saying it was written on the
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wall or what what is it the the the it was doomed to fail well i mean yeah but it's wait let me let
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the tts come in while i try to gather my thoughts donated two hundred dollars im disabled in a
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wheelchair and obese and i get ssi benefits this channel has opened my eyes to me too and the toxic
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Like, we're not, no, you should not, you should not hate women.
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Yeah, but going off of that, patriarchy, the best, the best.
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Look, I stayed home for 14 years with my babies as a stay-at-home mom.
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Anybody who says, let me work, they're dumb.
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My husband was a towboat captain, so he was gone every other month.
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and he was gone every other month and so even though I was I was home by myself with a 16 year
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old a two-year-old and a newborn and I remember I looked at him and I said do you have to go back
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to work and he said do you want to eat and I was like well yeah he said so I got to go but I did
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it and when he came home I didn't ask him to do anything I took care of everything because I
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stayed home and he was away from his family what are they're called what are those boats called a
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paddle steamer are you you're talking about like the natchez and like you're talking about the
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ones like they're paddle boats it's a paddle boat paddle wheels but like those boats that um
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wait hold on no i'm not finding it like those little cute quaint little boats with the wheel
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but i found like some big ones i'm looking for some like smaller ones don't they have some of
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those on the boat with wheel the paddle wheel the paddle wheel he used to drive the paddle steamer
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On the Mississippi right there in Memphis on the weekends when we first got married.
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But he worked for 25 years of our marriage, gone a month, home a month,
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I bet if you're a captain of a paddle boat, let me tell you what,
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you get so much pussy if you're like, forget a Ferrari.
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You got a fucking Mississippi River paddle wheeler.
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They like picture this March Wayne individual with a little tie.
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What are your reasons for coming on the podcast?
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We're going to probably get a goddamn good sunset, I'll tell you what.
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It's going to be like a warm summer day, man, let me tell you.
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Well, let me, okay. So back to you, back, back to you. Okay. Hold on.
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Wait, the, your current relationship, you've, you divorced like a year and a half ago.
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I separated. I separated. Yes. A year and a half ago. But, but you've been in a relationship
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for a year and I'm, I was kind of a bit, you know, to, to be together 20 years and then to just
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right back you're you're in a new relationship now and i don't know it's a bit soon like me
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personally if i were to if i was dating a girl for three years i personally think after i'm done
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with her she should go to a nunnery i don't think she should ever i don't think once a woman has
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once a woman has been with me i think she'll never you know maybe she should never even if
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we're just boyfriend girlfriend i think it's just done for her she should never she should wait for
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me that was her peak she should wait for me and just in case i change my mind like she should
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just stay chased and wait for me like on the cliff and every day she goes to the cliff like
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i went off on a boat a steamboat or whatever and cried a paddle boat tears yeah and she's like one
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day he'll be back. Like, that's how I expect a woman once I break up with her. Um, but yeah,
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no, I think a year after 20 years of marriage, it's a little bit, a little bit quick, you know,
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um, a little on the quick side. It is. However, um, I think you were, uh, taking a break when we
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discussed this. Um, women don't leave a relationship usually until they have tried everything and there
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is nothing left. Did you guys do therapy? Um, we did try. Did you go to the therapy? Yeah. Was it
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gay? Um, no, it was just very post-mortem. All of the damage had been done. Um, did the therapist
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agree? Did the therapist agree with you? Uh, that it was done. Yes. Like you went together or
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separately? Uh, together. So, okay. How many times did you do the couple's therapy? About two months.
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we went to therapy for two months and once a week or something yeah it was once a week okay so like
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10 times or something yeah but like did the therapist be say something like i think you
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this is what you did wrong this is or like did the therapist side with one of you more than the
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other not necessarily she said you know uh she's cold with you because you're not she's telling you
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she wants you to romance her and you're not doing it why does the man hold on look i look on one
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hand maybe this is counter this is uh contradictory because i believe in like traditional gender roles
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or whatever but it's like why is the man got to do that shit like why does the burden like he
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already got you you're already married because i would always plan all the vacations all the dates
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set up all of it it's like all right we're going out to dinner so i would find the whole thing do
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you did you ever bring and that puts me in a masculine role that doesn't want to make me
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be submissive did you ever do brunch with your husband how many times did you force him to do
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brunch never i would cook at home all the time you never did brunch outside of the house no with
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your husband you never went to brunch on a saturday sometimes or a sunday with him yeah
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oh that's why the relationship you wanted no no look men don't want to do brunch we very rarely
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Like, okay, your poor husband works Monday through Friday.
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He doesn't want to get some fucking $20 omelet.
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He doesn't, men don't want $20 omelets on a Saturday at 11 a.m.
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let the guy fucking rest at home you took him to brunch you demanded brunch you guilt tripped him
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into brunch it's fucked as a date no i never did a brunch date you did brunch tell me be honest
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no to go out because we had to go out did you have brunch did you ever do breakfast it was a
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brunch breakfast also bad it was 9 a.m 9 a.m on the fucking saturday what got what guy did
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your husband wants to watch i don't know did he like sports was he was he a sports guy yeah
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But all of those games start at like one is the earliest one.
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I guess it's brunch if you want to call it that.
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If it's at 9 in the morning, they did not have sandwiches.
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have you ever been somewhere with hors d'oeuvres uh like a cocktail party like a wedding yes
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we'll get that will that's acceptable sort of but no not like a fancy or like a gala was there
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a gala okay look like a fundraiser you took your you forced your husband to do brunch
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Otherwise, your 25-year marriage is coming to an end.
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I started being that traditional, gender-old wife because I wanted the marriage to work.
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Never. Look at me. Never. Never. You promise? You pinky promise? Hand to God. I never was unfaithful. No. No, that's gross to me. I can't. You can't step out like that and come back to the marriage. That's disgusting.
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Because now you're adding kids, driving them to, driving them back, making the dinner, going to the grocery store, doing the work.
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uh he'd want to channel surf and be sometimes he'd fall asleep downstairs but no matter what
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happened i would always go downstairs to have that closeness with him oh okay so i was exhausted i
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would fall asleep on the couch but he'd wake me up at like midnight or one like it's time to go
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upstairs to go to bed did you ever as you were as he was about to fall asleep did you ever say the
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following uh hey can we talk like right before he's trying to go to bed no
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okay you know that pisses me off so much when uh i'm like trying to fall asleep and she had all day
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he had all fucking day to say this he's like i'm literally i'm i'm going into uh what's it called
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I'm not REM, but I'm, I'm going into that twilight phase. I'm like about, you ever have
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those, like, where you jerk yourself? Like, like I'm, I'm basically there, right? But
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instead of like, it just, my body doing something retarded, it's my girlfriend doing that. Instead
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of like just my body jerking me out, it's my, do you want, can we talk? I'm like, I don't
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know i just don't think women you got to bring that shit up at 3 p.m you can't bring shit i don't
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care how pissed you are you stuff that shit deep down as a woman stuff it down there hopefully you
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know by the time you wake up you've already you're just saying whatever i don't even care
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wait for a bet women gotta wait for better moments to like bring us shit you know like
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For example, I would tell a girlfriend, like, if it's a Saturday or Sunday, even a Monday, like, for the days I do my show, I do my shows on Sundays.
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I don't want any friction on a Saturday the day before because I'm doing work.
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Because I'm not, you want to, oh, you want to argue?
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I'm going to be upset if you bring it to me this day
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this is going to be like a two-hour argument do that shit on a wednesday at like 3 p.m okay so
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if you want us as women to prioritize your sleep right and schedule these arguments to appease
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your schedule yes you must then why can't the man prioritize by scheduling a couple of date nights
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so she doesn't feel like she doesn't matter it's meeting each other's needs any married couple
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that's been married for longer than 30 years will tell you that they always dated each other like
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doesn't mean like oh you have to like do all the time it's like you can go out once a night
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i mean once once a week and just spend time with each other dates are this like new invention
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it's this new invention that came about recently if you go back hundreds of years back in the day
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Obviously, my life is more stressful than yours.
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And if I want to lounge around the house all fucking day, that's how it should be.
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It shouldn't be, oh, like, I work so hard.
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It doesn't have to be the Ballet of the Nutcracker.
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You're going to give them to her, not the other way around.
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I will bestow upon her the gift of my seed.
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You will be pregnant, because Google says men can get pregnant now, apparently.
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Even during the pregnancy, see, it's like, yes, okay, you guys bear the children.
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We have to tolerate you while you're pregnant.
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That goes, that's a lot of, that is a lot of emotional labor that I don't think women account for.
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So I actually think when, us men, we do, there's a lot of stuff we.
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We don't get a lot of appreciation for what we go through when y'all are pregnant.
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and we go through a lot when you guys are pregnant and i do think that truth be told
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um i don't know there are maybe a woman maybe there is a lot of men who do go through a lot
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with a pregnant wife if they're actually like attentive and like absolutely it's a lot because
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you're taking on someone's empathy that i mean truth be told she if if i'm you know like you
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guys have cravings when you're pregnant right like yeah you want that chocolate ice cream you
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want ice cream i personally think you know it say the woman's water just broke but i'm craving like
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some cookies or something i think she should go before she goes to the hospital she should go get
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me what i'm craving with the water breaking like right after the water breaking i think that that's
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ideal but we do have a chat here from bob sorry for the delay not gay women just frustrate me on
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how much standards they want tall guy 18 18 figure salary what is that like that's not i i don't even
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that's beyond trillion uh well beyond trillion pisses me the fuck off thank you ladies for
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making me the 40 year old disabled obese man wait is he talking about me wait what
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no i think he's talking about himself yeah he's talking about he's a disabled
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well bob if given the bob i'm gonna have to grift a little bit here you 18 figure salary uh we have
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some champagne bottles that need to be popped it's a thousand dollar to pop a champagne bottle
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uh and some of those are going to expire soon so it's not that i'm even i'm just looking out for
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the expiration date on the champagne. Not that I'm trying to, you know, get money from you or
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anything. Uh, so if you could just do us a favor, uh, but okay, so hold on. Um, wait, let me, I do
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need to move things on a little bit off this topic and try to get into some other stuff, but okay,
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there's no cheating. Uh, I guess the only other thing I wanted to touch on is you said that women
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move on quicker. Yes, because we'll stay in a relationship until the men move on quicker,
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No, I think men will process it maybe like six months after the split up.
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That's when it really starts to hit them when you have memories of the stuff you guys did together and it starts to really, really hit you with real life stuff.
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But women will stay in a relationship when she's like yelling at you and trying to like rile you up, like wake up, like she's in it.
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She wants it when she stops arguing with you and it's calm.
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it's not peace it's indifference i'm done with it i'm about to leave she's already looking for
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your replacement i could have sworn i could have sworn though that i heard somebody say that
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women take breakups harder i said that you said well not like oh we take it harder but more like
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i feel like men are quicker to like go fuck somebody sooner than a woman i think a woman
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will absolutely find an emotional attachment sooner but i think a dude is more likely to be
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like okay well like i got them yeah hook up quicker than a female i don't know about it's
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more emotional for a female physically i don't know about the hookup but like in just in terms
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of who gets over the breakup sooner do you think it's men or women um like as far as moving on to
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a relationship then no no not okay let here's the situation man and woman breakup neither of them
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date anybody else for a period of a year who is like finding it more difficult to get over the
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breakup in my experience men men get over is that yes men take a longer time to move on no that's a
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different answer than her though she disagrees she thinks uh women women move on faster what do you
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think i think women move on faster women move on what do you think i also think women move on a lot
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faster yeah well i i do think i agree with them that women tend to get over a breakup faster this
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doesn't necessarily imply that they're dating someone faster or sleeping with someone faster
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i'm not making commentary on that i'm commentating on the lack of emotional uh impact that the
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breakup does have i do think um and this might seem like kind of a fucked up thing and this
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perhaps as a purely theoretical, but in evolutionary, uh, I believe it's like evolutionary
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psychology. There's this concept called war brides. So I think one of the reasons that at
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least it could theoretically be explained why women have less of a, uh, like they, they take
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breakups easier. Like they get over it sooner is there's an evolutionary basis for it. So,
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and i'm not saying this is a good thing like this is terrible uh like if you were conquering
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another tribe another group you'd kill the men and you'd take the women for for fucking war
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brides like that they're your prize prize basically like so i think there's a component of
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because women like i'm not even articulate articulating this properly but uh because this
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is like a phenomenon that women experience throughout humanity that it's like okay if
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our tribe gets conquered I'm not going to be put to the sword I'm just going to be like the new
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the fucking warlords fucking strumpet or I don't know whatever uh because we're looking for the
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security because that's what it is I think there's something to that I mean I'm looking this is like
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tens of thousands of years back um you know this has been a phenomenon where okay you have a tribe
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of 300 people warring with 300 people one of the tribes gets conquered they're gonna kill all the
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men and all those women are going so you have to like you could either just be like oh fuck
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like be all sad about it or it's like okay well i'm part of this new tribe now i have a new man
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now whether consensually or not again that's a terrible fucking thing that happened historically
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i'm not saying it's good but i do think that that could be an explanation but it also could be
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it's just a theory okay uh so there is that
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imagine if there's just like conquering women who like just killed all the dudes
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and then we're just like well we're gonna fuck you now that'd be fucking crazy bro all right
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i don't know um here relationship status relationship status oh yeah single as a
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pringle so mason uh you were last time you were on uh you were you were in a relationship oh yeah
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so i mean are you at liberty to uh speak about what the what happened there no i am in prison
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and consulted with them on a few things and they just determined the need to end so
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it had to be cut down how long was your relationship how long was it
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eight months and how long after did you start seeing someone or I haven't started
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yeah no i i um yeah i do not date someone until like i'm pretty well over it i mean i am over it
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like i'm not still pining away for her but um yeah but and i'm also a really picky dude yeah
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so it takes me a while to find somebody yeah yeah so still single
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um wait so why did you guys split up yeah what were the reasons your pastors and you decided
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that it was wait the pastors yeah so the elders of my church i we i sat down with them and i mean
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it was even like a there were a few facetime calls that had between her myself and uh elders
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of my church but um i don't really want to get into the details of that but it was determined
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it needed to end okay was it a religious reason i mean i feel like everything technically within
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the scope of a church is a religious reason but yeah are you yes no no no you said elders so that's
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why no elders uh i mean i'm part of like a um our church has plurality of elders so there's like a
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bunch of guys in our church who are like they're the ones who leave the church now this was and i
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I mean, I'm actually blanking on her name, but she was on the show previously, and you both came on the show.
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This was not long after you kind of recovered from the accident, but still actually in somewhat of a recovery.
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And, like, but are you guys on good terms, or did it end kind of bad, or?
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I don't do friendships after, like, yeah, I don't do that.
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I mean, I'm praying, like, she's chasing the Lord.
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um are you still a virgin indeed okay okay good no she did not take that from me she did not take
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no because yeah you were you were you when you first came on yeah you revert and you're wait
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you're 30 now or how old are you uh turning 30 on the 19th oh shit me and hayden christensen
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share a birthday oh wow is that a deal breaker like for you yeah uh like also need to no no no
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know. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Mason, you fucked up once already, Mason. It's a deal breaker
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now, motherfucker. Hold on. Let me say this shit, bro. Okay. I forgot. Wait, can I be,
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wait, wait. Can I be, can I talk about it? Just go for it. Do your thing. All right.
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so like free speech did i just when you guys okay okay okay when you guys first started dating
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did i tell you what did i tell you mason i don't remember what you told me a lot of people told me
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stuff but you know what though look i want to be okay can i be honest honesty and look
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i don't know that girl very well fair she's been on the show a couple times she stood by you with
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the the whole thing the whole thing i think like when you this was like when you went on one date
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with her i think you had been on the show and we were talking after a show or something yeah and i
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think i said like hey man she's like like there's nothing wrong with her but i was like i don't know
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if it's a good fit i think i told you that but you didn't you did not heed my i she's the warning
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by the way just to be clear i'm not like trying to she's been on the show she's a nice girl
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i'm not i don't really even know her that well there's as far as i know there's nothing like
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i don't know anything bad about her but i just don't think it was the fit
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and i i gotta be honest i think people in the chat know who we're talking about
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i mean she was on the show with you like she was on the show but there's probably
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viewers who yeah they're not watching everything
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i swore i fucking told you i think i do remember this that she was a feminist
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if i recall and like i swore i told you but like and but here's the thing
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tell me i wasn't about i wanted to like i wanted to be like yo i don't know if this is the girl
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like down the road because when we first talked about it i felt like it was fair game because
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you would just like you went on one date with her uh yeah but then she was your girlfriend yes and
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she stood by you when all that shit went down exactly but there was a part of me that wanted
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to be like careful mason i don't know about this i mean so that's why that's why i like included i
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mean maybe i did kind of heed your warning because i mean that's why i included so many of those like
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elders of my church of the godly men because when i look at a pretty lady like i can't i tell
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myself everything i need to hear in order to keep things working so but that's why i include all
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those guys in my in in the situation i tell them everything just so like they can make the rational
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decisions they tell me what those should be and then like i'm like okay this is my pastor talking
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to me this is the elder of my church uh he probably has a little more understanding experience than i
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do um and i weigh that out i mean and the decision was made and they heeded with you brian yeah but
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like i i once somebody's deep enough in a relationship like because i don't know if
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alexa's gonna see this or whatever like like i while you you were like actually dating her
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i never said anything no no like i want to make that clear because some people might be like whoa
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he was trying to like ruin the relationship or something there was not all there was one
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conversation we had when you had just been on like one date with her and i was like i don't know
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you know well hey yeah but then once she like but i don't know when she came on that show
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i was like bro she's a feminist like i'm sorry dude when she came on the show with you
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and i was like oh man she's a feminist like dude she's conservative but she's a feminist
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and i was like i think that's an oxymoron but well yeah a lot of these conservative women are
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covert feminists yeah they're covert feminists for sure like yeah obviously your relationship
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with her haven't dated her for so long like me and you were we're like i don't know if we'd call
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each other friends like dang it hurts my heart no but i mean we're not like hanging out you know
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But once you were deep enough, I felt like it wasn't my place to say anything.
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I'm not going to go into the depths of everything.
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No, what came about is walking through the things with my pastors.
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They were like, okay, Mason, this needs to end.
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Just to be clear to the viewers, there was a question mark there.
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One of the reasons, I think you guys were the same age, right?
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it cannot work when the woman is more sexually or like dating really more experienced than the guy
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it cannot work unequally yoked i it just can't work i like the phrasing it's and look mason but
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bro because even before you got linked up with alexa um by the way look if she's watching this
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alexa i'm not trying to throw shade i got no beef with you don't hate me um
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we're cool i hope probably i don't know but no no but this isn't even about alexa i told you
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like i'm this has been from do you see one do you see that down there i he's the chat i told him
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i told mason and bro you didn't heed my my fucking i told him if he any girl got to come
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through me first before they get to you like you did say no i remember chat remember i told i told
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them i was like if you want to deal with mason let i got a vet this is my boy we are friends
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actually this is my boy mason dog so do you feel like though that like that's my homie dog
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you a girl you're trying to fuck do you feel like you've been so the only way it'll work for him
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then is if she's also a virgin because you're saying a girl's more experienced which i can
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understand but like he his experience is zero so if she's got one it can't work well very strong
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preference for virgin agreed but extenuating circumstances can apply but i'll say this um
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so you but just to be clear you you did not have carnal knowledge no i did not have carnal
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From now on, Mason, and I fucking said this shit before.
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It's just going to be an ex, and you're going to, Mason.
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I tried to warn you, dude, about – so from now on, Mason, your dick is my dick.
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All dick decisions got to come through me.
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Oh, I thought you were going somewhere else.
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I am the peen protector, the vagina virtuoso.
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And I'm going to get you to the fucking Holy Land, Mason.
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So, ladies, if you want to get to Mason, you've got to come through me.
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Now, Mason, being the naive young lad that he is at 30,
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He may not know how to spot a trifling hoe, but I do.
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So if any of you born-again virgin Christian thoughts think you got a shot, no.
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Before you – I know you get a lot of women sliding into your DMs because double-byes.
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Show them – you were supposed to wear the Blink-182 shirt.
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Wait, Mason, let me list your positive characteristics.
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He doesn't have any VD, venereal disease, as far as I know.
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Therefore, we are getting you a beautiful 19-year-old, brown-haired, blue-eyed virgin who will give you seven sons.
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So, ladies, if you've been cracked before, don't bother.
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Now, in all of my goodwill and charity and gent—hold on, I've got to repeat it because it wasn't on me there.
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In all of my goodwill, charity, and generosity,
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we will accept damaged goods under certain conditions.
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Now, any women with more than one body count,
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but I do get to be the best man at your wedding.
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You can DM him, but I'm going to read those DMs.
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I'm going to actually, Mason, you're going to send them a questionnaire.
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I have a girlfriend's application that I use for myself that you could use.
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The next girl you date has to be a virgin.
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Bro, you got too many good positive characteristics.
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You don't got to settle for some girl who's fucked 10 guys.
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Do you live in L.A. or Southern California?
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uh oh goodness gracious what is my type uh i look for uh i don't have like an ethnicity preference
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okay we're gonna get you a white woman with blue eyes no she has okay the the one strict thing i
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i like i this has to be there i mean obviously she has to be a christian she has to be going to
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church that's unspoken that has to be there she has to be a gym goer if she's not a gym goer
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it's not gonna happen you know what we need to do mason tell me you are blocking kiki from the
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center shot can you turn kiki so she's more in the corner i was thinking about that earlier like
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yeah she's not in the shot i just realized that's up this baby's getting all the
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you might have to stand up to move her mason i don't even okay yeah just scooter that way a
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little bit all right yeah there we go anyways let i need i need to bring some of the other
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women on the panel I gotta I gotta you know but look ladies ladies he does not miss a glue day
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ladies ladies uh but look Mason yes no more okay bro you before you even go on the first
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date with a girl you come to me of course you I'm gonna go on the date with you actually really
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I need a chaperone. I'm going to be Mason's chaperone.
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I'll get you. Fair enough. Move to Santa Barbara.
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Mason's going to work for me. I'm going to be your chaperone, though.
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I'm going to go on the dates with you, and maybe we'll do double dates, you know?
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She can bring her slutty older sister or something, and I'll take one for the team.
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Sons in a man's youth are like arrows in a quiver.
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You want more arrows in the quiver than not arrows.
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If anyone else, I'm just amazed he is a virgin.
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But once I, like the last two years of college, that's when I started to blow up pretty good.
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It's, you know, it's like a, what, 10 to 1 ratio or something like that?
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Because that's, you know, you never, he's the age of like my oldest daughter's 31.
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i had i had a line waiting outside the door of virgin women no you did for this man
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and he threw it all away he threw it all away oh goodness are there virgin dating apps because
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he needs to go on it how would they bet it mason in your religion do you do self-flagellation
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do you know what that is isn't that a thing like don't some catholics do that
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the self is that wait do what is the do catholics do self flagellation
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heavily discouraged i thought there was am i just making shit up i don't know mason i think
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There's some people that actually still do that.
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Could be. See, he should have been wearing this the whole time.
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Bro. All right, let me do the introduction.
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Goodness gracious, we're at this far into this.
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Let me get into it, and then we'll get into some stuff here.
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Okay, we did Warbrides, we did that, we did that.
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You know what, before the intro, let me just do one more topic, then I'll actually do it.
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well i i know that i'm not supposed to and it's definitely against um my religion but i started
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due to unfortunate circumstances um what well we moved me and my husband moved here and from utah
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and he had a business, and he got sick, right, so he can no longer work, and our apartment's
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very expensive, and it came down to losing the place where we live or start making quick
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money, so I started doing things to make fast money.
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go on that's it that's it that's all you have to say yeah uh okay so
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uh how long ago was this i started probably three four months ago oh three four months ago
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yeah so this is new new yeah very new okay have you made the money i guess from doing it or
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well yeah I make I make money but the money wait didn't you wait didn't you say you've been doing
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OF for like two years I'm confused no she said a few months perhaps I got it confused then no very
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new um I started basically when I came here we always wanted to move to LA and we well he has
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a business in Utah that finally like started to stabilize but once he he's still sick and we can't
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doctors don't know what it is nobody knows what it is and he he's like struggling he can't really
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do anything anymore so I just I don't know I guess there's definitely other things I could
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have done but my rent's really expensive and we have an extravagant lifestyle so
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um well why did why didn't it occur to you as a first step to pull back on the extravagant
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lifestyle well that would make us sell the car well him because it's his car he would have to
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like sell the car the place where we live and there's also debt so there's not much i mean
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we could do we could get a new place but it is expensive and hard to find places in la that are
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also safe too um now lds although i mean i think some of the main mainline uh denominations would
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probably object to this but lds is uh at least as far as how they view themselves as christianity
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similar yeah well it is from their perspective they're christians
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yeah they do claim christianity a lot well i mean they are christians from their perspective
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um but i mean and then so you draw from the bible you draw also there's the you know the specific
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lds components of the faith my understanding though is that it's completely incompatible
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with the religion is sex work yes so i assume you guys don't take the religion
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you're like nominal mormons at best right i mean i'm like culturally mormon well do you go to church
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yes we do go to church obviously i don't publicly tell anyone there what i do for work
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um both of our families are also mormon like yeah do they know no they don't know you're on a podcast
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so here look into this camera look into this camera right here
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tiffany you gotta hello say hi mom hi mom hi dad hi dad hi brother hi brother hi step brother
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hi stepbrother okay that was weird that you just did that but uh just kidding um yeah
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it's just incompatible yeah I understand that but I mean we we believe we were taught that way
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to be Mormon and we met from our families and stuff like that but I also drank he drinks too
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and you're not supposed to like drink or do drugs no no drugs no no no but I mean couldn't you you're
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from Utah I mean couldn't you move back home you're 19 right so it's not like such a bad I don't know
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if you're on good terms with her parents or sort of they don't know that you do OF no they do not
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but I my parents I moved out when I was like 17 so it's I for me to move back in with I
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with them would be kind of crazy they're also separated so oh your parents are divorced they
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were never oh they were never together yeah okay and then his parents they are married when you
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and you moved to california when uh three four months ago three four when did your uh husband
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have his health issue he so probably just a little bit after we got here i don't even think
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i think so i remember we were about to pay rent and then all this started coming up issues where
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he got extremely sick it was hospital like er visits like every single night if he eats he
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his body starts turning on him it's extreme like we have to go do mris and go to the er
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consistently doctor visits and there's lots of issues there okay well i mean really the only
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thing i can tell you is that it is inconsistent incompatible with christianity or even mormonism
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LDS um you seem to be aware of that though so yeah there's really not much else to I guess say
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on the topic um I'm curious about some of your tattoos though uh what's the tattoo that you have
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on the sternum my chest no like kind of on the belly I guess it says deadly or pretty poison
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pretty poison pretty poison and then you have a a butterfly multiple butterflies I can't tell
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No, it's just one with, like, flowering inside it.
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I got these, I think, all under 18, my tattoos.
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It wasn't like, I'm so beautiful, but I'm toxic.
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No, I found it on Pinterest, actually, all my tattoos.
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I wish I could get rid of them all, but I'm not there yet.
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I don't think I was drinking when I got it, but I just kind of, I would see people with
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tattoos, and I was 17, just moved away, and I was kind of doing, like, just figuring out
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that, oh, wait, now I'm an adult, I can do whatever I want, so I decided to get a bunch
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uh you know i i saw something interesting on this um hey uh tiffany pull up the discord
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go into the research infographics uh it's kind of towards the bottom the research
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bucket the research bucket there's an infographics it's going to be the very first one
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apparently i found some really interesting statistics uh that tiffany's about to pull up
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So this is like the year ranges is when the person was born.
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so blue is male, black is gray or whatever is female,
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uh so for the older generations uh men got more tattoos if you were born 1961 to 1980 it's kind
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of about equivalent although actually no no yeah the wait hold on wait the age does this wait i'm
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hold on because it uh for the 1961 to 1980 um it looks like at the like at the top peak of the age
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yeah so like eventually at the time they got the tattoo wait yeah i'm confused actually by this but
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yeah go ahead yeah well it's so it looks like men initially would get more tattoos than women
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um but women would eventually come out to catch up to them eventually once they got to
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But does that mean that the women are getting
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so like uh there's like a very uh consistent change but then the male graph is more logarithmic
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so eventually like it looks like men would get tattoos sooner um and then it eventually equals
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out to is this just like but this hmm it would seem this is a bit confusing in the sense that
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it's like they hit 18 and then it kind of plateaus up depending on what generation you're in and
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there's way more women now when they hit 18 in the generation of 81 to 2004 getting tattoos than
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there are men. That's what it looks like to me. Well, so I understand like the final reading,
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like for example, 1981 to 2004, more women are getting tattoos than there are men. But I'm trying
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to make, I'm trying to understand what it means. Oh wait. Okay. So the age, say the age is.
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The probability that you're going to find somebody who has a tattoo. That's what I'm
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right oh okay so wait the probability that so if people at this table have a tattoo uh because
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like a born or yeah between those time periods it's it's a little bit confusing or maybe i'm
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retarded it's so different by culturally too like by culture no like by by yeah i'm wondering like
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if the a lot of cultures like for instance polynesians tattoos is like a rite of passage
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like you will get tattoos very young like women and men like they mean certain things like yeah
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but like but i'm wondering if they did this in in america i'm wondering if they took these
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statistics in america it's probably the u.s that's what i'm guessing that's what i'm saying
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yeah but like even if it was like even if it was like polynesian american or it was like world
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statistics i don't think that um like the polynesian and black cultures tattooing is a
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part of like tattooing is part of black culture yeah if you go to yeah if you look well tattoos
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are part of all cultures not tattooing but like you know they have like scarring and things like
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that that was part of like african i'm half black i'm well i mean i would say i mean i lived in
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north africa for four years so i mean i would say that tattooing if we're doing a comparison between
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like black americans and white americans it being part of the culture i would say is pretty
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equivalent well i corrected myself on like the black part because that was more like
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scarring and things in any case though women are getting women are getting more tattoos than men
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and l it's a pretty big l no offense that's actually no offense hey look i what's that
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you you regret them right yeah yeah so i mean um i don't know uh i don't know i brought you have
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a tattoo too i have sean yeah is that your ex no it's my brother who just passed uh oh your brother
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passed too shit your brother and your ex that's damn that's crazy well sorry to hear that uh do
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you have tattoos i do really and i got them when i was in my 40s you would never see it like they're
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what i know you would never see them though they're for me who are like rib tattoo or something
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I have a small one on my foot, and then I have a real small one right here.
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What is the negative of, like, women having tattoos, though, like, in a man's opinion?
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In a man's opinion, I would probably say when I see a woman who has tattoos, it generally suggests to me that she makes permanent decisions off of how she feels in the moment.
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Like, I feel like I really want to get this tattoo right now because I just really feel it.
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I'm not saying that yours don't mean something to you.
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I'm just saying that that is generally what happens.
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Yeah, and so when I see a woman with tattoos, I see that she makes illogical decisions in the moment based off of her emotions, and it's a permanent decision.
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She didn't think through that, and she doesn't have people in her life that help her think through those things.
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So are not all permanent decisions made from emotion, though?
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When you get married, which I assume that I take that as a permanent decision, you are acting out of emotion because you love this person.
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So you're making a permanent decision off of an emotional.
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There are plenty of relationships I've been in that if I would have made the emotional decision, I'd probably be married today.
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But I put those emotions aside and made the, I think, right and logical decision by putting my emotions aside and making the hard choice to not continue with the relationship.
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So you're saying that logic and emotion don't ever play hand-in-hand when you're making an impermanent decision?
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So I think emotions are essentially like a temperature gauge.
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God gave us emotions for a very knowledgeable reason.
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However, if you base your decisions primarily off of emotion, then that leaves you making terrible decisions.
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Some of the most egregious atrocities in history were made by emotional decisions.
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so but so it's the emotion can be a temperature stick why do i feel this way and making that
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evaluation in into coming to a correct conclusion i think that is correct but if your emotions are
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being uh are wild and then you make a illogical decision based off them that means you prioritize
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your decision making using emotions versus making a rational decision here also uh i do want to add
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you were i think you're asking was it you who was asking why the tattoo says something bad
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yes yeah so i mean i would say that the graffiti uh if you see graffiti it lets you know you're
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in a bad neighborhood yeah not always tiffany loves that by the way because she has tattoos
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so i'm basically talking shit about her i guess but um just kidding tiffany love you but um in
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a platonic work sort of way exactly um in a yeah so yeah it's like i i think it displays a lack of
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long-term thinking um which can be associated with sort of other risk taking behaviors um
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and even if it's not rational like for example logically it's possible that a woman could be
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fully covered in tattoos and she could be a virgin she could have never done drugs ever she could
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have never had a sip of alcohol she could be like a highly virtuous person but my just maybe it's
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bullshit maybe it's not maybe it's just reading judging a book by its cover but when i see a
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woman who's tattooed especially heavily tattooed i tend to make assumptions there's a heavy
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correlation between the two and it's not a causation yeah the heavy correlation so i tend
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to think she's probably sexually promiscuous probably into drugs probably into drinking
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probably has mental illness probably has issues that's my now to be clear the tattoo you showed
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me on your wrist they're just no no no i don't think that communicates that not because of the
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symbol necessarily but like it's small the the wrist is and you're also like you can't see it
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and the thing is like you purposely got them in places where people aren't going to be seeing
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because i don't want to go for a job and it cost me a job because you know like you have to be
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rational about it if it means something to you then it really doesn't matter where you put it
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if it's for you and not for everybody else to look at yeah and i can understand like what you're
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saying like placement can matter depending on job and stuff like you know for instance i'm in an
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industry where that doesn't matter what's the industry um like like health and wellness like
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i do because i do massage therapy i do holistic health so it's very independent i like and i work
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honestly no i mean it's never well no like it's not going to inhibit you from having a job but
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Like if I'm looking online and I'm trying to get a massage or something and I'm like looking at three different providers and one of them is super clean cut and has no tattoos versus I see somebody who does have tattoos, I'm going to pick the person who has no tattoos.
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Sure, if you want to label it a prejudice, I'll accept it.
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If I saw a guy in here, he walked in the door, and he has a swastika on, I'm going to be somewhat prejudiced towards him.
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Obviously not saying that tattoos are swastikas.
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If I look at the sex offender registry, I'm going to have prejudice towards that person.
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Everyone can have their prejudgments, that's fine
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but when I was giving that example of the guy who's
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clean cut with no tattoos i'm thinking perhaps more tattoos than you that's like for example let
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me let me put it like this um if i saw you or i saw a massage therapist who had like a tattoo here
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and a tattoo on the forearm i and like i wouldn't not get a tattoo with them or excuse me i wouldn't
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not get a massage with them no because of that but let's say they had like full sleeves
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and like maybe a face tattoo neck tattoo um i might even if they're the only option for a massage
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and i mean there's quite a lot of providers in a medium-sized city but i'd probably like
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have some apprehension getting a massage from them well that's more but if it was a choice
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between a clean cut person whether it's a man or a woman versus a man or a woman with tattoos like
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like full sleeves and neck tattoo or something i would probably pick the clean cut person well
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that's more where i was like trying to get to the bottom of like understanding like okay so is it
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like someone like even with the dating and stuff right are you talking about something that's fully
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added or just because like they have a couple texts i have six right but they're all um at least
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four of them are dedicated to you know people who i've lost who mean something to me and then two
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or just like my birth flower and then because i like to surf you know what i mean like that's
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where i was gonna understand like okay so where are you deciding like okay this person has terrible
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judgment that's not because they have a couple tattoos that mean something to them or are you
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saying like you said we're no offense but like she just saw something on pinterest like fuck it i'm
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gonna get this like you know what i you understand what i'm saying no i get what you're saying but
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it's still like i'm gonna mark up my body with this permanent like marking like i don't know
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I just don't see the forward-thinking, like, future knowledge in that.
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I'm not saying that, like, because you have your tattoos, you're going to hell.
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I'm just – I'm saying, like, there's – and, like, a lot of these thoughts aren't really, like, conscious.
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Like, I would probably assume and probably be correct in my assumption that the people who get tattoos aren't consciously thinking,
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okay i'm a degenerate person therefore i must go get tattoos because i'm short-sighted and blah
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blah no i'm i'm thinking that like what motivates them to get those tattoos to become not a skin
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virgin is they have these subconscious devils that they have not faced yet and they haven't
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healed from or conquered i want to say so i mean it's it's not again it's just not conscious
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thought? Mine was from a healing. I used to weigh 396 pounds and, um, I made some big changes in my
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life. And the one on my foot is just reminds me, I'm not going back there. So if I ever look down
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and I see this, I know you're laughing. No, sorry. I was laughing. I wasn't laughing at you.
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Okay. I was like, really? But when I look down and I see that on my foot, I'm like, don't look
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down get it together you know you you you have overcome something i overcame stage four terminal
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liver disease you know like i've had a lot of stuff happen and a lot of thought went into that
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and i did it in my 40s and it was um cathartic it was like an end to what was and a reminder of what
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was going to be if that makes sense yeah but again like you i mean you're not trying to flaunt that
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to the world because you're having a spot that's not typically seen yeah and so like yeah so i mean
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i like so you're one of the exceptions to this rule like technically speaking i would still
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prioritize a skin virgin but i get you're like one of the exceptions to the rule i as far as the
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tattoos go i would say do you have tattoos i'm a skin virgin yes i would say like for most men
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There are some men who maybe they have a tattoo, so maybe they view it as, like, a commonality where it can kind of get into a potentially a positive.
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I would say, though, at least for me, that tattoos are at best neutral or negative.
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There's never – so when I say neutral, it's like I tolerate.
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Like, there's never a woman I've ever seen with a tattoo.
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not just to be clear tattoos are not deal breakers although some like if she's fully blasted it's
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probably like i don't have tattoos like she's it's probably we're so different it wouldn't work
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or whatever not necessarily i mean maybe it could but like we don't see a tattoo and it gets us
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going yeah like i guess it depends it depends a little bit on placement what the tattoo is how
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many tattoos she has it's like a scale i would say it's a spectrum of acceptability so like okay
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she has a heart tattoo on her inner ankle and that's the only tattoo she has honest like
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to me that's totally neutral now would i like slightly prefer her to not have it sure but like
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i i don't really care that much um but would it be better if she didn't have it sure but it would
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be like i don't know how can i what's the thing i can compare to okay your boyfriend makes
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250 000 a year it would be nicer if he made 255 000 a year but it's it's like that's the increment
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it's like okay he's an extra five thousand dollars is like if he's making 250 000 a year
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so neutral to negative you're falling somewhere on the spectrum neutral here would be like
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versus like all the way here like massive negative obviously we're talking face tattoos
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we're talking whites of your eyes tattoos we're talking like blackout tattoo like
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Like, then we're getting into, like, this other territory.
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She's got, like, tattoos that communicate something, actually.
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Like, for example, like, if somebody has an MS-13 gang tattoo, like, that does say something, like, about you, either your current state or your past affairs.
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I'll just blast them super quick on the tattoo topic.
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So it says something about your impulsiveness, long-term judgment.
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It could signal a pattern of behavior, which someone might make more like emotionally driven choices.
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They do show correlation with higher levels of risky behavior, drinking, drugs, criminal activity, sexual promiscuity.
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There is a correlation, particularly with like certain types or placements, neck, face tattoos.
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Now, I don't know if you're like a corporate businessman or you're an attorney or you're going to these functions where not that I do these things,
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But where you're like bringing your wife and they're meeting the CEO and your wife is like blasted in tattoos that could have like in those professional settings that could have an impact.
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There's also just an incompatibility with aesthetics, like aesthetically, you might just be like, I don't think it looks good.
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And it could signal narcissism or attention seeking.
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so all right sorry to pound on you guys for fucking 20 minutes i guess but i feel like we're
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sitting down from most tatted to least well yeah you got the butterfly the the do you have any
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other tattoos or is it just those i have this one and then i have one here also and then one on my
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ankle yeah so like i wouldn't say you're like you're definitely pretty close on the spectrum
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there like you're like okay so like no no tattoos to like whoa that's i mean you what's the style
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called where it's just like fucking just work you have the patchwork yes yeah so i mean this one
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here you got the one there uh do you have like the lip one no on the lip do you have any on your
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fingers oh i i guess the hand one yeah i got the hand one yeah i mean it's uh
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i've seen worse obviously like there's people who are just fucking of course yes like super
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blasted you're not quite there yet but it's definitely a preference but i do regret all
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of mine and I want to get them removed and I do plan to but it's not like an easy thing and
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I'm scared and I think that kind of speaks to what she was saying like you know she didn't put
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as much thought into it right where versus like you and I were like we said like there was so
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much thought that went into it and it was like healing cathartic where it's like I'm and it's
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like people I love so I'm never going to regret honoring the people I love you know versus well
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But one rule I put on it was, if I still want it in a year, I'll get it.
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Yeah, and I think I had, at some point, some temptation.
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If I still want this in a year, and it's like, but even then, I was like, eh, nah, I'll change.
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my mind like i was never wanting it i always thought i'd do my kids names and i never did it
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and but i think the other thing that we since it is a dating podcast i think one component so if
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you're like let's say you're a man who's wanting to like have a stay-at-home wife and she's not
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making any money and you're making money and she's like a tattoo fanatic that's a financial liability
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like she's gonna come to me wanting me to pay for the tattoos and I'm thinking like that seems like
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from my perspective that would be a waste of money if we're gonna have kids we have a household
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like so what does it say about like a financial responsibility because it does seem to be the
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case that people who are not often in really good financial situations get tattoos and I'm like okay
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that money could have been yeah maybe it's what a hundred here a couple hundred here here and
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there getting a tattoos so sometimes like over a lifetime people are thousands tens of thousands
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of dollars like how much was your two tattoos these were each 150 150 each right like how much
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were your tattoos this one was like 300 300 these were 150 each okay and so it's like you know you'll
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see uh so what you said it's 300 this was 100 total yeah i mean shit 300 for some people that's
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like a lot of money yeah 300 like that's that's your rent that's your food that's diapers so it's
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like i don't know if i was dating a girl and she was like i want to get tattoos this also would
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apply to like a woman who's has high degrees of vanity. So like, I guess as a next, uh, sort of
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hopping off topic, a woman who wears a lot of makeup, a woman who wants plastic surgery, a woman
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who has a lot of upkeep, she's getting Botox, she's getting lip fillers, she's getting procedures
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done. I would want a woman who doesn't have a leaning towards needing, uh, plastic surgery
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or caking on makeup, because I view that as a financial liability in a relationship,
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especially, at least for me, I'm, I mean, I'm in a position where I can take care of
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I'd prefer my, my girlfriend or whatever down the road.
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When we have kids, she doesn't have to work, but I also want her to be, uh, responsible
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financially, especially if it's my money that she's spending.
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um so for me when i see a woman who's like clearly has mental health issues when it comes to
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plastic surgery like i just think okay every couple years it's going to be a ten thousand dollar
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surgery like i could afford it but no you're not getting it so even if she wanted it even
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if i could afford it no that money can be better spent do you have hobbies that you spend money on
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our money it would be her money because she's it's i think relationships are a hundred a hundred
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well i'm not i'm never getting married so yeah it's always going to be my money it's always
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going to be my money but and a traditional christian woman is going to be okay with never
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getting i'm not christian okay yeah i didn't know that but uh you know it's i mean some of
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these christian women are i i want to do air quotes though christian women most of them are
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completely if they're into you they're just they get completely bulldozed like they just
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they claim one thing and i'm waiting until marriage and then they're fucking like i mean
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not all christian women to be clear there's a lot of hypocritical christians i agree but
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uh yeah i mean i'm not getting married i mean i do agree like you know when you are married right
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like it's an hour thing especially if you're following that gender role of like okay he's
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the one that's going to be working then like it's an hour situation but a good woman is going to
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have standards and most 90s i don't know what percentage it is but
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a vast majority of the good women that you want are going to expect marriage
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um i disagree with that to a degree of course an unwillingness to get married uh definitely will
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close the door for uh perhaps i don't know the percentage i would assign to it uh but there's
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plenty of i think um good virtuous women who would make for good girlfriends good mothers
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well there are some people who are meant for singleness like that's like in the bible like
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some people are i'm not talking about being single no i just mean like that's like unmarried
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like in when you're talking biblically like single like a singleness like god can give to
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a singleness because like you're not meant to be tied to like that rib or that person like you have
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a different purpose but it's not what i'm talking about so um yeah that's so i can have a long-term
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girlfriend stay with her forever being monogamous have seven children with her
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what changes huh he essentially wants marriage just without the government contract right
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yeah yeah i can have so all those things in marriage the children the family i can have
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all those absent marriage why does the government contract scare you so much or
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you don't like, you dislike it so much? Yeah. I mean, primarily just, uh, financial liability
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and I don't need the government involved. The government is retarded. Um, and I don't need
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some woke retarded judge telling me how I should distribute my money and how the assets should go.
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And, oh, my wife cheats on me. I, and we've been married for 15 years in California. I have to pay
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her alimony for her entire life. Fuck the government. Fuck the laws. If she wants to be
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with me, and I hope she wants to be with me for life, and we're going to have a family, and we're
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going to have kids, great. But I'm not going to let the government ever put me in a position.
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Marriage is a contract. Marriage is literally a contract. And I'm a businessman. You know I'm
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businessman because you find me at my places of business. And so when I look at what marriage is
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from a legal perspective, it's a terrible fucking contract. Oh, here's a woman who didn't help you
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build your business at all. And at any moment, she could be cheating on me. Or even if there's
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no cheating. She could just be like, well, I don't like him anymore, which fair, but now he has to
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pay me for the rest of my life X amount of money. That's fucking retarded. I'm not going to ever
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enter into any sort of agreement that would allow for that. That's so dumb. So yes, it's a financial
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liability. What about if you get a prenuptial agreement? Uh, yeah, sure. So, okay. Prenuptial
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agreements can be challenged. Uh, prenuptial agreements can't be unconscionable. So for
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example, the prenuptial agreement cannot state, well, yes, Brian, you make millions of dollars
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per year and you're, uh, going to marry a woman who makes nothing and you're married to her for
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20 years you can in the contract it cannot be like uh she gets nothing that would be an
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unconscionable contract so like prenuptial agreements they're she still gets something
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correct but you agree to it up front and you can have a clause in it that states this prenuptial
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agreement is to be reviewed every year just like you file tax returns every year review it every
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year but so the prenuptial so i believe and it depends on the state i'm not an expert in this
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prenuptial agreements can, can protect assets before the marriage. Anything gained from the
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marriage onwards is the, I don't believe the prenuptial agreement can really address it.
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It would then go community property. So if I'm making a million dollars a year and she's making
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jack shit and we're married for fucking 10 years, trust me, she's getting millions of dollars
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in the divorce regardless of if there's a prenuptial agreement or not i'm sorry i'm not
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giving a woman if she's even if child support is the bigger liability at that point not necessarily
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because that would that would have a limit as to how long it could go and uh if we have children
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uh whether we're married or not that that's something you can't escape right so i why add
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another liability in that case so i don't there's no point yes okay you got me yes if i have children
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with her i would have to technically pay her child support i'm okay with that i get i mean
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i'm actually not so okay with child support i think that can be kind of retarded too
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in some ways because sometimes it it's um most often that's the word most often child support
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isn't even used for the paying for the things child needs not in in some cases the child support
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doesn't cover enough for the child care expenses but sometimes it can be very exorbitant especially
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if you're a high earner uh especially in california where the calculation is based off of
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uh your income and it's just a percentage okay you make this much money uh say you make
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a hundred thousand dollars a month you're going to be paying her ten thousand dollars
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uh in child support a month it doesn't cost ten thousand dollars a month in child support to raise
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a kid fuck the government and fuck her frankly um that's ridiculous that you would ever a lot
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of these child support payments are completely exorbitant is the word i was looking for um
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the woman is going to use the child support for things that have nothing to do with child support
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if the payment is exorbitant so that's bullshit that's completely retarded
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there should be a cap on it i i would challenge you on that a little bit and
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Talk to an attorney about it because I think you're shutting out a lot of women that would be otherwise aligning with all of the values that you have.
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Well, I mean, my perspective on this is like, okay, woman, so if I'm making millions of dollars a year, but I won't give you marriage, but it could work, or you could go marry a guy who makes $100,000 a year, like that's the tradeoff the woman's like going to have to make.
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I, like personally, I don't see any benefit to getting a legal government contract to get married.
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And so it's a covenant in God's eyes made between a man and a woman.
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Where is the government supposed to be in that?
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Because the government is essentially incentivizing you in ways, hey, if you do this divorce thing, we'll give you this.
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We'll make it easy, essentially incentivizing people to do a divorce and the marriage for their own vain, feely reasons.
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And, I mean, especially once we've, like, instituted, gosh, no-fault divorce laws.
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Like, I think this absolutely shot marriage in the foot.
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Because, I mean, all it is now, it's saying, I don't feel like this marriage is working out.
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And I have these divorce laws that I can fall back onto.
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I can have all these incentives and benefits if I do end this marriage and ruin our children's lives, ruin our lives.
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I think, yeah, I think having a marriage where there is no government contract involved makes you think very hard before you get into that marriage.
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You're going to bring up all of those really difficult topics that need to be brought up before you decide to marry this person.
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like all of the do you believe in abortion um what are your political views uh like do you
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think we should be going to church every single week all those extremely hard topics that people
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tend to avoid right now because oh i could just divorce them if we find something that we disagree
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on i mean i think there's both sides because i do agree like i don't really love the role that
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government plays in marriage because i also agree like it's a commitment between you your partner
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and god like i would be totally fine getting married in a field with just me my partner my
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family under god you know but i also think that in one way where yes it does give people that easy
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out it also does make people think like okay like i need to make sure if i really marry this person
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like i'm in this because if we do get divorced like that's messy it can be bad like well so
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this is kind of like going in well going into this i don't know why people who aren't christians get
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married honestly it's the dumbest thing ever like if you don't yeah i think it's so dumb like you
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get in a governmently binding contract to spend the rest of your life with this person like you
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don't really believe that you're in a covenant with them like you're doing it for like i guess
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so you're not alone and you have like a fleshly pleasures with them but like why do people who
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don't believe in god ever get married that blows my mind i have no clue but if you are in a christian
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If you are a Christian, you get married to somebody, and they divorce you, and they take everything.
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Well, if you're part of a good, healthy church, the church is what takes care of you.
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I mean, my church in my motorcycle crash, they took care of me.
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I mean, I had people visiting me every day at the hospital when I was recovering.
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People just lent me rooms in their homes to live in while I recovered until I could start working again.
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The church is designed, and it's really good at taking care of its members,
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I'm talking about those megachurches out there that, like,
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No, like really solid churches that are actually your family.
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Like when those messy divorces happen, that's what the church is there for,
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Where, I mean, if you go into a marriage without that government contract, shoot, it's so much better.
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And if you're a Christian and something terrible does happen, there is that you can fall back into your church, and they're there for you.
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The only legalities, then, if you're not married, would be to consult with an attorney of how you can protect your wife or your significant other if something were to happen to you.
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because she doesn't have spousal rights under the laws of man well well so i mean okay if you're
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like thinking of some sort of scenario where you're incapacitated or you you know uh die before
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you otherwise expected to you could that's called a will and testament so okay that's not enough
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huh that's not enough you minimally need a trust a living trust that would make it revocable when
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you die okay but there's a lot you are acknowledging that you can have that sort of way well there's
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there's that's what i said if if if in one way um you believe that the prenuptial isn't protecting
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you then what security or protection does she have and okay so hold on but you're you're now
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that's back to what the woman wants um how do i benefit um how do you benefit uh yeah how do i
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here how i can i can your heirs so hold on i can i can list out all the negatives tell me why
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as a male breadwinner i should get married um you don't have to do anything you don't want to
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I know, but what are the, so, okay. If you're making a case for marriage, if you're arguing
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for marriage, aside from contending with my criticisms, what are the pros? What are the,
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why should I, as the man get married as the male breadwinner? You don't have to, but
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that's not what I'm asking you. I know I don't have to. It'll be easy. I think you're cutting
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off a lot of very traditional women that you're expecting to find. That's actually, I think that's
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compelling to a degree. Yeah. But that's not enough. And have you talked to a family law
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attorney to get all of the laws and specification for the state that you live in? I would want to
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ask all, I mean, I'm not there. I'm not getting married. I just divorced. But if I were to
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remarry, I would want to talk to the family attorney and say, okay, I need a bulletproof
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legal in all 50 states, prenuptial, very blanket, you know, prenuptial. What are my options? I would
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want to educate myself on that before I get married. So, I mean, ultimately, I guess you're
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right that the laws vary state by state. And I don't have like in-depth knowledge necessarily
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about specific outcomes or specific laws, but I have a baseline understanding of marriage and
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divorce laws in the United States. I know, for example, that prenuptial agreements aren't this
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magical contract that means you're going to have a good outcome in the event of a divorce.
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You're still going to get financially fucked simply by virtue of having the marriage.
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you're going to get lawyers involved. That creates an expense right there. It creates a
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financial liability immediately. If you do get married through the court system, then yes,
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you have to get a divorce if you want to separate. That is going to cost money. Whereas, hey, okay,
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we don't want to be together anymore. Well, okay, we got to figure out the child legal situation,
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but that that would be the only legal component should you have children if you're married then
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the divorce comes into play then it's like okay we got to untangle our money if we bought a house
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together if i earned things during the marriage if i had fucking bitcoin you got you're gonna grab
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my fucking crypto you're gonna grab part of my assets you're gonna grab all these things
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and so again i'm asking you why should the why should me as the man the male breadwinner get
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married i'm the woman and i paid it okay so i so just to be clear i i understand that the the laws
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also do apply to women too but i'm asking from from as it is the case that generally speaking
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men are the ones who get fucked in divorce generally i'm not women can get fucked too
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meant women if the woman's making more money and the the man's the stay-at-home dad or whatever
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yeah the woman would uh be paying alimony would be losing money would be in a financially
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bad position so i guess but that's not that's not what i'm asking i guess if if you want to
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divert it to the gender thing why should the breadwinner why should the person who made which
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is mostly men why should the person who makes the most money out of the two why should they get
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married um well i think you would have to be fully educated on it i don't know enough to speak
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intelligently about it yet because i haven't talked to a uh attorney about the prenuptial
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legalities and protections and if you review it every year and you can amend it every year
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i'm sorry but it's going to be very difficult to contend something that you just agreed to last
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year wait what if if you have in my opinion i i don't know enough about it but in my opinion you
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have a prenuptial agreement that gets you both agree before you get married is going to get
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reviewed every year for any changes if any and you agree to it every single year what does that mean
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how are you that doesn't how are you go how is she going to uh defend or contested in a court
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of law when she just signed it last year even if you've been married for 20 years that you're not
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communicating okay so what he's asking is like how do the benefits of getting married
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So he's listed all of these benefits to not pursuing that government contract.
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Because there's a solution to that, to that worry, I think.
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By speaking to an attorney that knows a little bit more.
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It would not be beneficial for you to get legally married.
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And especially if you're not a Christian and you have someone who has the values that you like
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it would not be advantageous for you to go into a legal contract with a woman who brought nothing
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monetarily to the marriage um that is 100 true you if and if i mean that may be a deal breaker
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for her but when you find the right one she might be like hell yeah brian let's do it and you may
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be with her 50 years and have 10 kids you still know my belief is my perspective is is that if
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the woman only wants to be with me on condition that we have a governmental marriage, like
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a legally, uh, like through the courthouse or whatever, she's just not that into you.
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She ain't the one, um, further, like now, if I wanted to date a woman who like, maybe
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and she wanted to have the ritual yes without the corresponding legal uh complexity obviously
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some states there's like common law marriage and i believe if you were to like hold yourself as if
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you were married you would technically have a common law marriage but in california and there's
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other states too i don't know the breakdown of all the states that are have common law marriage
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or whatever california doesn't um but yeah okay you want to have like a ritual you want to have
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i guess i'm okay with that just a profession of love you know like your relationship if she
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really wants it i guess we could do it at in vegas or something vows under god in church
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somewhere but yeah actually having a legal government marriage yeah absolutely not yeah
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no absolutely not wouldn't do it there's pretty much the only reason you should do it i mean i
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would say you should get married if you're christian because that's something you should
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do as a christian right um well it calls for it it calls for marriage however oh boy um however
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they don't like our stream yeah um hold on one sec uh one sec uh wait wait let me just
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check something really quick keep the camera there i think
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i think it's just a fucking bird or something yeah okay cool yeah yeah we're good we're good
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um i don't know um i mean i agree as well like i don't think it's necessary if you're not
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like you said like christian to have that marriage in general because like that is a profession of
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you declaring your love and your faithfulness your commitment under god to that person and if
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you're not under that faith value then it doesn't make sense like for you to just go into a contract
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just for that like especially someone that's more likely to hurt you then well i mean the other
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thing to consider though is all my concerns still apply to christian men like all those concerns
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in terms of the financial liability even though you're a christian and you're called to get
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married you still have to take these things into uh consideration yeah and that's what i mean like
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I wouldn't, like, if my future husband or whatever was like, hey, I don't want to, like, get married on paper, I would be fine with that.
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Because to me, it's the commitment that matters, not this little paper we have to sign.
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Because this is what's going to really matter down the line.
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Yeah, well, I mean, because when you sign that paper, it puts in a bunch of incentives to end it, to get a divorce.
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Incentives start to appear once you sign that piece of paper.
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If you don't sign that piece of paper, there's no incentive to end that divorce or end with divorce.
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And then the other thing I was just thinking about is, and that is a good point.
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It's like, well, okay, we're having an argument.
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Oh, if I divorce him, I get alimony for the rest of my life and I get like thousands of dollars every month.
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And so it creates an incentive for women or whoever is not the breadwinner to maybe just be like, well, do I receive a benefit by ending this, whereas if I just have a girlfriend and she ends things with me?
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what about her perspective um where you can just leave because she can just leave too
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well right but you are also incentivized not to really try when shit gets hard
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because you just leave i mean so two i guess two things well if you just leave
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you lose what the breadwinner was providing no but let's say she's let's say hypothetically in 15
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years yeah after seven kids uh you just turn into a monster to her like you're just an asshole to
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her like verbally abuse her um you slap her once you're like an alcoholic something okay hypothetically
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speaking. Sure. Okay. Okay. And she's trying or, you know, and you're just, she criticizes you on
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it. You know, if you would stop drinking that alcohol, I think, you know, it would be better
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for our relationship. Okay. And you're like, F this, I'm just going to leave. And you leave.
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And you're, and that's no security for her. Well, I mean, if, so if we have children,
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uh the child support would cover some of it um but uh yeah i suppose a woman has to weigh that
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as a potential risk uh however i mean yeah i mean i think it's hard to believe that
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this uh extremely negative behavior just spawned out of nowhere in this guy i mean
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i suppose it could happen i mean i guess it could happen but it's extremely rare
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and like i mean again if you're part of like if you are getting married like i don't again i don't
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see why the people who are not christians get married because you are a christian that stuff
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happens the church is there to help you they're there like the money that people donate to the
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church it's made for these kind of situations well also this hypothetical scenario you like
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couldn't that go the other way too yeah like so it could go the other way too like she could be
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a terrible piece of shit she could cheat on me i did get married to her and we were married for 15
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years boom permanent alimony kicks in in california once you're over 10 years of marriage
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she she got gang banged by my fucking best friends or like something fucking terrible could happen
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and now i'm gigafucked like i i think the worst case scenario in both situations is okay the woman
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Brian stopped working and she, um, she was a stay at home wife for 10 years, which
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truth be told, I think is kind of like a pretty damn good scenario. Like, okay, everything is
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covered by your husband. You don't have to work. That seems like kind of a blessing. Like it would
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be wonderful if, if like hordes of women who had a ton of money were like ever came around to men
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or to me in my life and we're like, hey, Brian, I want you to be a pampered little prince and just
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do nothing and take care of the household and raise the kids. Wouldn't it be nice? I actually
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think it's a privilege for women to get to be stay at home and not have to work. I think that's
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a privilege, especially nowadays where economically, financially, it's actually very, very difficult.
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A man has to earn quite a bit of money to actually allow that to happen. Most people are going to
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have to have a two income household so i do think it's a privilege for a woman to uh be a stay at
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stay at home and the guys taking care of all the finances that certainly will be the case uh for me
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the woman will never have to work ever um but so i i i think ultimately though men would get
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the worst end of the stick if we like the worst case scenario in both situations okay i i'm done
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with her and she, we're not married. She's kind of financially fucked. I think you can get on
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your, like, that seems like you can get back on your feet. Um, versus man has a financial duty
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to like, you can have a clean break from somebody like, okay, fuck you're financially in a shitty
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position. You're, you're completely clear from them. You're completely done with them. If I'm
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married to a woman for over 10 years and she does some fuck shit. I am tied to her for life.
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She gets my money for life. I, the government can force my labor. It's literally fucking slavery.
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The government forces me to give her money. So long as I'm working, the government has a right
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to my labor. She has a right to my labor after she fucked another dude for the rest of her life.
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And so, like, I think the scenario you're giving us, I would rather live in a world where, like, that scenario probably happens 0.01% of the time.
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Whereas the scenario nowadays where divorce is absolutely just rampant in our society, it's like 50% of marriages ended in divorce.
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I would rather take the 0.01% risk than the 50% risk.
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I think like that is a good point like you know because I was in a situation with my ex right we
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were together for five years and then when I had to decide to leave because of like the infidelity
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and you know the unwillingness to change that you know he was the provider like I worked a little
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bit but like he took care of mostly everything but then when I left like I didn't have shit like I
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ended up having to like stay in my car for like two months because in Cali like it takes a while
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to get enough to like you know have a place but like i can understand like that point of like
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that's something you can recover from like it did only take me like two months to like find my
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bearings and get my crap together to like recover from that versus like yeah and does the situation
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suck you can obviously for life yeah exactly and like it is a crappy situation to be like oh my
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god now i like but don't know what to do the suck is only for a relatively a short period of time
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so I do I do understand yeah and it's I mean there's certain arguments to alimony it's like
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okay let's say the woman was on track to have a corporate career but I think like and so she
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she didn't pursue uh she didn't elevate in her career because she chose to stop working and
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stay at home and take care of the kids but it's like okay let's say I meet a girl and she was
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working at chick-fil-a as a fucking i don't know like a minimum wage fast food worker when i say
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chick-fil-a not in the corporate office not as some like big shot regional manager she like entry
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level fast food worker and i meet her and i'm like okay six months after dating let's move in
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together a year later let's have kids take care of everything i'm and and then we break up
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That's like the difference too of like people who
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Wait wait let me just finish my thought on this
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Medical, everything taken care of by the man
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and then you know what maybe he fucked up she fucked up they break up
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she can go right back to where she was working she was at chick-fil-a back you go
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you don't get half you don't get millions of dollars that's bullshit i have a question how
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often does that scenario happen and how likely is it to happen what scenario the chick-fil-a girl
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with a millionaire you so all these basketball players they're just wifing up millionaire women
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no they're wifing up nobody's all these fucking well and that's what i'm gonna say it's the
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intellect has to match because i don't think you would be tied to me i don't think you would go out
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with a chick-fil-a server i think there would be it would be i think there would be a very big
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intellect clash i think there'd be nothing to talk about well hold on there's a couple things there
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so um i actually had a two-year relationship with a girl this was many years ago this was
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gee 2018 i think 2017 2018 so quite a while ago um she worked at chick-fil-a
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as far and she was great girl by the way many years ago though right how many years ago
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But, like, intelligence, like, she's pretty, like, I'd say she's smart.
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But just because you work at a fast food job doesn't mean you're not intelligent.
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Yes, that's why I mean, like, the scenario of someone that is successful and intelligent
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is probably someone that hasn't been educated, maybe 18, 19, 20 years old, still in college,
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doesn't have the intellect capacity to have a meaningful, a lot of meaningful conversations.
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I mean, just because you work a fast food job doesn't mean you're not intelligent or don't have the capacity for...
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Like you don't, you don't know, you don't have the ability to learn.
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I can't imagine having a conversation with an 18 year old right now.
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Besides how's the weather and how was high school?
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Well, I mean, this would be like a value of values compatibility thing.
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I would argue Mason has more in common with an 18-year-old Christian woman than he does with a 30-year-old atheist, liberal, woke, purple hair, septum pierced.
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So this idea that you can't have compatibility and commonality and shared values with somebody younger than you, my argument would be someone much younger than Mason, an 18, 19, 20-year-old, but she's a Christian.
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there's way more alignment there probably a virgin too not necessarily but well more than likely
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higher than a very high chance yes well more more so the chance yes she's a virgin than the 30 year
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old yes indeed but i'm not i'm not holding out for this 18 19 20 year olds being virgins but
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but there's some there's some but uh yeah i mean ultimately uh this idea that i don't know also
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men like they don't they don't know how to file their tax returns they're like barely calling
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insurance companies to insure their car oh no a lot of a lot of them she's barely learning they're
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barely learning they're like little birds just barely she's oh she's young and she's 20 and
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fertile and beautiful and pleasant and doesn't have a fuck ton of baggage, although at 20,
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But, oh, no, but she, I can't date her, though, because she doesn't know.
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It's like when you're talking about certain things, like, hey, babe, I need your W-2.
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In the calculus of do I want to have sex with this woman and or a relationship with this woman, never has it occurred to me.
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she's been all over europe she's been all over asia she's been all over latin america she's been
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all over fucking middle of dubai she's fucked that's what i think i think when a woman especially
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solo travel she's just fucked a bunch that's what i think and also it's like if a woman hasn't
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traveled i want to be her portal to those experiences exactly yes no but if if oh okay
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i don't want her to have the previous baggage it's like i want for example i don't know this
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this is going to sound and this wasn't like this was a woman uh she was 24 and like this is going
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to sound kind of corny and silly she for some reason had never had like certain fruits before
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like she hadn't had like peaches and nectarines and i don't think she had strawberries even
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which is like super common fruit and like for some reason i it felt nice and i was like
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let me i'm gonna buy you some and we'll have this experience together it sounds kind of corny but
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it's like no that actually sounds incredible i was like woman this is what i'm going with the
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capri and lemons i love lemons and i had that experience and i want i have a whole citrus
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laying on my house and it's all the citruses and i love to bring that my i cook with them and i make
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the most amazing homemade lemon curd on a brand new cheesecake and i like to give them to people
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but we will see what i totally relate to what brian's trying to say because like having that
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first experience like i mean purity virgin so that's kind of what i'm going into like the purity
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like they have never had this experience eating this fruit with anybody every anywhere at any
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time her having that experience with me is like that's going to be in her memory forever it's
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so exactly it's like really powerful bonding and she has that with like a ton of things other than
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fruit like travel uh eventually once i get married carnal knowledge like things like that
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like that is a permanent bond that she will always have with me so and the thing is like i'm only
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going to find that with someone who's a little younger i'm not going to find that with someone
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around my age well the the other thing that the good point that mason brings up here is i don't
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know it's like oh man i'm kind of losing my train of thought on this but that first experience like
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i don't know well okay i actually recall i think there will be a degree of appreciation like
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if a woman's been to like some snazzy restaurant 20 times if she's been in another dude's lambo
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she's been in a guy's ferrari she's been in a mclaren there's there's like a she's she's been
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there done that there's no novelty there but then like if you're the first one that can be the portal
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to a new experience for a woman there's an appreciation that she'll have for you that
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wouldn't exist otherwise and it's like whether that's a trip somewhere oh you've never like for
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example a woman tells me she's never been to Hawaii or she's never been to Europe she's never
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been out of the country that to me like me bringing her on a trip to Hawaii me bringing her on a trip
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to Europe that's her first time experiencing that I feel like I'm providing more value to her
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because like it's the first time whereas if i don't know like for example um if you've been
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to hawaii a hundred times or you live in hawaii going to the beach for you isn't like necessarily
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some big event but if you live in fucking uh ohio and you've never seen the beach ever and you're
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going to the beach for the first time it's like you're there's a bonding moment it's like there's
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going to be a level of appreciation there where it's like if she's had all these experiences
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before whether it was through a man or just her own traveling or whatever there's a lack of i don't
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know well it's like that bonding right like you were saying like for instance like i have not
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taken certain trips because that's that's something i would want to experience with my partner like i
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don't want to just go do that by myself like i would want that person to like experience this
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show me things whatever but then in general like when you're talking about age I just feel like
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age doesn't really matter as much because it's all it is about life experience and like I'm
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someone where I experienced so many different responsibilities and like life altering things
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so young that by the time I was 18 I was years ahead of people who are my same age because of
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life experience so I feel like age doesn't matter but their background they're like their environments
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their values whatever like that's where you can determine like okay are we at the same
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i found out why you're looking for someone you all you don't have children i have children so
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i'm looking at things from a different lens i need someone that's been there done that with
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the whole marriage and kid situation well men and women i don't i wouldn't date someone that's
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never been married or that doesn't have children. There's a certain, it makes you grow. It forces
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you to grow as a person. Well, the thing is though, is there's an asymmetry between what
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men find attractive and what women find attractive. So I don't even disagree with you that that's what
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you or perhaps women who are in your position want, but men and women are not attracted to
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the same things so i think there can sometimes be a projection i'm not sure if you're doing it but
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women look at men who are hyper successful who have status who have a lot of money
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you look at them and you think sometimes women think not all women think this women will think
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oh this is what i find attractive men must also men must also find these traits attractive in
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women no but no men don't give a fuck about your career your status your money we don't care about
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it so in that same vein like you're women you're talking more about experience though like you
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wouldn't date a guy who doesn't have a family who doesn't have that experience who doesn't know
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but i would argue that a man who he has kids he has a family you know he's divorced or whatever
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he would still defer to wanting a woman uh who who like it wouldn't be an issue for him to date
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a woman who doesn't have children who doesn't like he would still look for those traits because
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those are just like baseline level traits that men find attractive which if he wants more kids
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yes because she's gonna want kids well i mean that's the doesn't yeah there's a it gets well
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there's other complicated ones you both have children well that is true if his desire is to
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continue having children then that it's actually it's actually to the contrary um it would be
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better for him to find a younger woman who doesn't have kids i mean you could obviously if she's had
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children with other men you could still have kids but um it would be to the man's benefit to like
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go date a younger woman you know in 20 to 30s or something but even if he didn't want to have
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children anymore uh well so wait so if he did want to have kids better to go younger but even
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if he didn't want to have kids still better to go younger yeah still better to go younger that's
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not going to be a compatibility because nine out of ten times she's going to want children
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i mean there's a lot of him for not giving her any i mean there's a lot of young women who are
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not at all ready to have children especially if they're more liberal uh so he could just go
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fuck some liberal chick i guess yeah well and also like that's not with her values you know
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well but if he doesn't want kids then if he doesn't want any more children let's say he's got
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oh he already has children yes well then i i mean i would say that um
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i like even a more conservative woman who well he doesn't want to have more kids but he wants to
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find a life like a long-term partner correct okay but maybe down the line she wants to have kids so
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it would not be it would be incompatible no heck no i don't she doesn't want to have kids right now
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probably um maybe when she's 30 that biological clock is gonna start ticking and he's he met her
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when he was 35 now okay i see what you're saying you know now he's 40 now it's a f no situation i
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don't want to have kids at 40 well i suppose from like a pragmatic perspective if like he wants to
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match up with a woman who is okay with not having kids that cohort of women and he still wants her
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to be traditional that cohort of women is is gonna probably be older women who don't want or can't
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have children but there is there are younger women who don't want to have children um but he's still
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going to be more attracted uh to the younger women regardless yeah physically yes yes physically
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uh compatibility wise it probably won't go long term that's what i mean by so i would say
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compatibility wise still yeah because he still wants he still wants the person who doesn't have
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the in-depth experience in other in those areas of life he still wants to find that person who
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was not as experienced in the types of fruit and like places she's traveled in those life
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experiences so he is still innately attracted to those women so we're not saying that like
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it's going to be a success yeah what i'm what we're not i'm not saying that it's going to be
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a successful relationship i'm saying that's what he's attracted to yeah yeah and women tend to be
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more attracted to guys who have more experience more like stuff that they've done in their lives
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who have like a plethora of experiences i've traveled all these places i know what all the
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good stuff is uh they they are like peak in that area they're attracted to that generally speaking
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yeah it wouldn't turn you off that it's like a child you know that you're still like i just
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you feel that way because you're you feel like that because you're a mom yeah that's what i'm
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saying i think that's where the that's what it is because when i look at him you know all the
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girls were like oh Mason you're the age of my daughter so to me I look at you completely
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different so when he's saying well you could date an 18 year old your mom brain is going
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yeah but it's not it's a grown it's a as my son would say it's a grown-ass woman yeah you know
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like it that's that's the disconnect you're having you're like why do you want to go be with
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this little girl but she's not that's what she's crying that's where I think my mind block is at
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is that I'm in such a different state of my life.
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and not be a parent so we have a skewed mindset when y'all are like what if she's 20 years old
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like to me i could be your mother like it's just you have a different view of it yeah uh we have
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a chat here from red mason is the best example of what a real man should be in today's world
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god-fearing and christian morals men need to stop being simps and supporting these only fans
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was goodness gracious dang fair this is true i mean like i've come to the conclusion in my life
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like i am okay die like i am okay to finish my life being single like i could go the rest of
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my life being single come on hey it's not gonna happen i know hey she was a whore b she was a
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indeed but no like if bro i got you between okay i would rather die as a single man having never
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gotten laid before then wife up a lady who's absolutely contentious who makes me want to sit
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in the corner of my roof who makes me want to run out into the desert and die there proverbs 21 19
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exactly indeed dude proverbs 21 19 i would rather be single for the rest of my life because that is
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that sounds so much better i don't think that i think this is becoming more of a man's view in
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this day and time my son is 18 and i was like you don't have a girlfriend he's like i don't want to
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invest time and money and everything in a girl that i don't want to marry that's been with all
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my friends and he's in high school exactly and i think i don't think people realize this is going
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to become extremely common where men like generally speaking in their nature don't really
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need other people with them I mean humans in general are community like beings so like I can
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go to church I have my boys at church like that's my community I don't need to have a wife I definitely
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want one but I don't need it whereas women in general psychologically sociologically they need
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that partner and when we find women who are single in their 50s and 60s they're crushed
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and because they don't have the tools and the ability and the god-given ability in their nature
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to be able to be single whereas we do and that's going to become very apparent in the decades to
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come well i would agree with that because i think exactly that point is like women we have a need
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for that companionship because that's what we were made for we were made to be a companion
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to man you know we're like man was made man was made first and then we were made but women are
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more women are morphing into something that is unrecognizable yeah well it's adaption right
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no it's not adaption it's it's not adapt it's immorality at 100 i need to do the uh intro for
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the show because i didn't even i forgot to do the fucking intro so uh guys i should have done
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this fucking five hours ago or whatever but um this podcast is viewer supported we rarely yep
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the tts um you can also mute a microphone pop a ball of champagne honestly i feel like we need
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a champagne pop today was very i was very agitated and stressed out today uh with all the flakes and
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no shows and bullshittery it's like i'm not gonna lie guys we it's episode 290 almost 300 shows now
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i do think there was one episode if you are ogs you might remember this but there's probably like
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200 of you who are ogs maybe i don't know there was one episode where we had the full panel but
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they were all friends and they all knew each other it was like a group of nine girls came
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and they did which was a mistake on my end to allow like a group like that to come
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they all wore they were like OF girls some of whom we've had on the show before they all wore
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like uh shirts with their OnlyFans link on them and I was like nah you guys got to change and
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they're like nope we're the only way and they by the way they drove from LA and I was like look
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I'm not gonna like it's probably against YouTube TOS or something or it's gonna get flagged if you
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have only fans text on the shirt, which is going to be on the video. You guys can flip them inside
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out. You guys can change clothes. We're not going to do the show. And they're like, nah, we'll only
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do the show if you let us on like this. So I was like, okay. So I had a full, my fucking team was
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there. This was when Madison and Nick were working for me. Everything was set up. Everything was good
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to go. And so we had no show. Basically I streamed for like an hour or two, just fucking telling
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everyone what happened yo type in the chat if you guys were there for that episode just
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one in the chat if you guys were there for that episode so that was pretty much the there's been
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some other times where we've had some flakes and no shows but like normally we end up like filling
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i don't recall a time where we ever like we should have another like at least three other girls here
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i think so oh some of you were there for that fucking god bro it's crazy they drove from la
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and we they refused to turn their shirts inside out and i was like honestly in retrospect i think
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i should have just gone with it because it was a lost production day i could have got content
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but i was just look it's your building and if somebody's going to disrespect you
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like that so we fucking turned away nine girls and we just it was so funny wait wait wait i
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wonder if i could find it's not even listed but i probably still have the stream
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but uh it was so funny because when we went to this angle like all the chairs were empty and it
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was just me sitting here and i think madison i think if i recall was there yeah so um never had
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anything that bad but uh i don't know where i was going with that um i was talking about like
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the tts or something i don't know where i that came from um uh let's see oh if you want to just
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you have one guys a thousand viewers i need to see three prime subs right now i'm holding this
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since we got a prime sub let me see some prime subs boys um
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pre-roll ads or how did it get i've never seen that pop up he's gonna have seven kids you guys
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pre-roll ads that's weird um he's gonna need all that money
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okay all right uh anyways um let's see what else do we have oh whoops didn't mean to press that
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comfortable you'll actually want to wear them they're very comfortable the high quality premium
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before and it's fuck it's so dog shit you don't even want to wear it because it's uncomfortable
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It's printed on, like, cardboard and Chinese newspapers.
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We print on premium blanks, so get some merch.
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i i that they're just sitting in my fucking house three just somebody fucking buy the pickle hobbas
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please um and then scroll down more and then just keep going to the very bottom very bottom i'm also
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selling cups okay mugs i guess uh what else false on instagram false on instagram at whatever you
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can hide the shop thing uh false on instagram uh at whatever any women who on beyond who want to be
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on the show you can dm us there uh x.com slash whatever follow us there on x follow
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follow me on instagram brian alice x x at brian alice
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and uh also follow my instagram page for blm big labia matter i'm the founder of the non-profit
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and grassroots movement big labia matter or blm for short all labia can't matter until big labia
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matter i'm the chief labia officer of this organization as someone who only dates women
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with large labia this is important for me um it's an important cause you know there's a lot of
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other things going on in the world right now uh we got the conflict with iran we've got venezuela
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keep it up we've got you know uh ukraine we've got middle east all this shit uh immigration
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we've got they're transing the kids that they're the we're not deporting enough people all this
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shit right this is the number one thing uh big labia matter um it's the pressing issue of our
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time because there's 10,000 of these surgeries every year in the USA alone. And these poor
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women, they're chopping their lady parts off. It pisses me off. So, I don't know. I'm just saying.
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No, definitely no ulterior motives from me on this whatsoever. Yeah. Let's see. We've got
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clips channels, guys. I changed one of my clips channels to at Brian. I'm at Brian on YouTube
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for one of the clips channels uh we have a discord discord.gg slash whatever
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i guess you could pull up the discord uh we post our stream schedule behind the scenes hate mail
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research studies a bunch of other stuff i put i've posted like a thousand hate messages i've
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gotten it's insane uh put it on behind the scenes scroll up up behind the scenes yeah just put i
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post behind the scenes i posted you know if you want to see me ranting about all the bullshit
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that like you can even scroll up like scroll up scroll up just so they can get a little taste
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up up up yeah that girl lied by the way about her and you keep going up up up just blast it
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blast it i post a bunch of shit on there check it out discord.gg slash whatever uh and that's it
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okay so back to the show here mason can you read this for me actually you know what uh can you read
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this molly most churches won't bless a union without legal certificate plus overtime common
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law will apply government duty is to protect but benefits from divorce by separating homes to
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increase consumption i'm guessing by separating homes to uh so common law marriage doesn't kick
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in in every state so even if you you know do the things that would trigger common law marriage in
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other states if you're not in a common law marriage state there is no common law marriage
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regardless of your behavior or conduct uh let's see um but yeah i'm i take your word for it i
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would assume probably yeah most churches are not going to be i don't know if it's most churches but
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they won't bless the union without a legal certificate i see rachel hey shout out rachel
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wilson in the chat shout out rachel wilson oh my god the chat is on fire rachel wilson
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hey rachel wilson get let's get you back out here we need to get you back out here pronto tanto
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april late april may let's make it happen rachel back by popular demand
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oh okay okay okay yeah yeah yeah we're better than that yeah no um
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yeah that was kind of it was unfortunate though because i mean obviously we put a lot of time
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into the production planning my staff was there they're getting their day rate so uh anyways uh
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where was i i totally forgot i don't know maybe we'll do some stuff from the questionnaire
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um what is the minimum yearly income to some of you are dating people and married or whatever so
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what is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband um there's i don't really have
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like a minimum or maximum it's just what like if he makes x amount just you have to make your
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lifestyle fit into that and I would so if he made a million dollars or if he made like teacher
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salary I don't know 20,000 for me it's pretty much like if I'm having to work you need to be
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making more than me so like for me I bring in about like 100k so for me I would want to date
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someone who's making the same and up I said 150 but my husband makes more than I said 150 but my
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husband makes more than that okay so what about you i said 300 i'm in a very expensive area of la
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and what part uh west valley okay um west is the guy you're currently dating does he make that much
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i have never asked but i well what's he do for work uh it's a salary around that or more
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Yeah, I mean, you don't have to ask, but I mean, if the guy's a doctor, he's probably not making $20,000 a year.
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I mean, what do I do with someone that's making $75,000 in L.A.? That's rent.
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i'm sorry that doesn't that does nothing for me downstairs it's downstairs in the
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the loins well it doesn't it doesn't make anything happen there carnal knowledge no
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there will be zero carnal knowledge i wonder if i'm a gold digger just kidding i was gonna say it's
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goodness like you know if she's a billionaire that does something in the loins
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for me i would be able to overlook that but like i'll date a broke girl like i'll date a girl like
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i said i date i did date a girl who worked at chick-fil-a i would date a girl who works at
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chick-fil-a don't care about the woman's money whatsoever i've lied about my profession i've
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lied about my profession because i feel like it intimidates a lot of people i don't let them pick
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me up at my house because if they come to my house i wouldn't be like i don't understand that
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though I don't know if men are intimidated by women who make more money I just maybe they think
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it can be suboptimal in certain ways or like the character needed to be successful in business
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or making a lot of money typically those traits don't tend to be feminine traits but like for me
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it would never be about like it I would have no qualms dating a woman who makes more money than
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me but there would be some questions as to like okay well to make more money than me like would
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this be an alignment of what I'm looking for in a woman but I would never be intimidated
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I would just some guys are a lot of men are yeah maybe they are in their head they start
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stacking chips you know what I mean I mean if I was like a making average amount of money and like
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a really wealthy woman wanted to date me like assuming she doesn't have all the defects that
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may come with hyper success um that seems like it'd be kind of a good thing i mean i feel like
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it kind of would depend on like how it translates to home life if you're talking about like that's
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true yeah that is another consideration too like my oldest sister she owns her own company like
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she's very dominant in her work world like she's the boss but then when she's home even though like
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she makes more than her husband like she's submissive at home like you know what I mean
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so she falls into that role at home she doesn't let that carry over but I know like there's some
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women who they don't know how to step out of that so like when they come home they feel like
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they're still the boss and like you can't obviously do that when you're in a marriage
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like you have to yeah I mean the what even if the woman makes more money you can still be the man in
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the relationship you can still lead right but it can complicate it it can muddy the waters a bit
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um it kind of depends I think more so where the woman's at because it's like I don't know if I
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was dating a woman who had a private jet like it's her private jet but it's my private jet
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like she has to understand that like she has to understand that you know she's got to you know
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what's hers is hers and what's hers is yours sort of I guess but it's like look it's your jet
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but like i got you like we're in the jet i got you know i got you know um oh my god i'm so cringy
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i would i would have a very hard time moving a man into my house because i feel like that would
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emasculate him i think i'd want i would rather uh
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well to what degree smaller house together well i mean like for example let's say like
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and also i'm not really i don't really believe in like big purchases or whatever like flashy stuff
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so like i don't really care about having like a fancy car or whatever but like let's say i was
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dating a girl um i don't know who made more than me and she had a ferrari she's not driving the
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ferrari like if we're going somewhere i'm driving her ferrari i'm driving yeah yes she's a passenger
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princes a hundred percent of the time yeah no so oh anytime i see anytime i see a couple driving
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a car and the woman's driving i lose so much respect for the man yeah like even if she like
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let's say she makes more money than me and she has a nicer car than me and we're driving somewhere
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and it's your ferrari exactly well it doesn't i'm driving the car we always take my car but
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Okay, so how tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
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I'm 5'2", and I guess maybe 5'5", just taller than me.
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for now um would you rather cross paths with a random man or random bear on a hike a man
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bear man man why do you pick bear because i feel like men are more unpredictable than bears like
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i know the protocol of what to do if i see a bear men it's i don't know you just never know
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don't you like that don't you walk past men you're talking about in the wilderness
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if i'm just out in the wilderness i'm like no on a hike so this would assume it's like a hiking trail
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yeah oh okay well so it wouldn't be like like wilderness like if i see no but if you're on a
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hiking trail it's not implausible that you're gonna pass people right so it's not just like
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you're out in the sticks in the fucking middle of the woods that's where my mind went though yeah
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okay yeah no but a hike i mean i you could technically be hiking middle of nowhere but
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You could also be on a hiking trail, but it could be a situation where you haven't passed someone.
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Like, there's not a bunch of people around, so you are in that moment.
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It is a place where you could come across somebody, reasonably expect to pass somebody, but there's nobody else around.
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I mean, I also do still feel like I would be more likely to be killed by a man than, like, a bear.
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Like, look at all those hatchet-wielding serial killers.
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like you're a massage therapist right yeah aren't some of your clients men yeah do you do out call
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i do do you do in call i do do you do you have a massage studio or a massage space but is it um
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but there's like protocols i have in place like to protect my safety like if i'm at the resort we
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have like buttons in the tables where it's like if i'm uncomfortable i can hit that management
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don't come in if I do mobile massage like I have I send my location to like my family members before
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I go there so then if you know I'm not done or they don't respond I don't respond after they
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know where to have you had a inappropriate yeah it's my first massage oh really really yeah how
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long have you been doing massage um it's about four and a half years and like so you only had
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one though and it was your first wow bad luck i guess um i felt like it was like the the universe
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where like god tested me like do you really want to do this so like i'm going to give you the
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ultimate test can you handle a weirdo um but i mean you've done all these massages i you massage
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women you massage men and aside from the one you haven't had it sounds like bad encounters really
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Okay, I'm not going to dig in on the bear thing.
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We do have, on a scale of 0 to 10, rate your own looks.
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okay i see mason what about you uh eight i give myself a 4.5 uh yeah i gotta lose some
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weight boys i've been trying man i don't know what the fuck uh you need to go with mason to
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the gym gym bros no it's the diet it's just it's the diet it's 85 food 100 it's a diet it's
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fucking hard um i'm working on that you know i was thinking about this though i was watching
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this video i don't know if any of you guys watch uh asmongold asmongold was streaming earlier
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today and he's reacting to a clip there was a fat acceptance um what was it called it was like a fat
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acceptance uh convention so fat people go to this event this convention and it's like fat acceptance
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and like fat reclamation i'm trying to remember what it was but like and i don't know like some
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people say brian who are you to like say these things because you're kind of you're you're
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overweight you're chubby but it's like i know it and i don't cope about it it's like for example
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i can sit sit here and i think a lot of women don't have this degree of self-awareness like
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so I can sit here and say, I believe I'm overweight. I know I'm overweight. I know
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I'm chubby. I know I need to lose weight. I know it's unhealthy. I know that, um,
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women would find me more attractive if I weighed less, if I had a more fit body. Um, and, but,
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But it seems like women will, like, you can't criticize women.
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Like, women will, like, I think there's a difference between me saying, I know I'm overweight.
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um i mean that's what i was thinking when you walked up today yeah it's crazy obviously
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and uh and i know that it has a negative impact on my dating prospects and i know that uh women
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are going to assess me as less attractive but like i feel like you would i don't know if you
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have to be like a dentist pulling teeth to get a woman to say that like i think overweight women
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i'm not saying all of them but i think overweight women would never say what i just said
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like I don't know right chat I don't know I mean like I used to be 300 pounds and like it wasn't
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until after I lost weight where I was like okay like I understand like with my ex because I was
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bigger when I was with him like obviously I'm not excusing him cheating but at the same time like
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you know I if I want someone to honor me I have to be in my best self as well and if I'm not in
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my best self and I'm not matching my partner in that way like it's kind of is a matter of time
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before something strays because you're not like equally yoked in that way you know for sure
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i think maybe for women is um if they've had children they feel justified by it like this
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is my new mom bod like love me the way i am i gave birth to children yes you did give birth
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but you can do a lot to still take care of yourself yeah but women can be overweight absent
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having children and most like when i was looking at the clips from this fat acceptance convention
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my impression was not these are moms these are women who've had children these were just obese
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women and there's just massive amounts of cope um did they have blue hair and purple hair
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They looked woke and liberal, I guess, but, um, uh, piercings on this.
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I mean, well, look, I think, I mean, look, I think, yeah, obviously when you're a woman,
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you have pregnant or when you're a woman and you're pregnant, uh, you're, you know,
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Uh, there's going, and then just like the expansion of your belly, that's going to,
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you know, maybe you get some, um, what's it called?
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you get stretch marks um you know so the skin's gonna could could be looser so but it's yeah i
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mean really all this is it's just it's easy to grab justifications for why you want to be lazy
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like in i mean i mean i have this card i can play for the rest of my life in my motorcycle crash
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i was supposed to be physically disabled for the rest of my life like i was in a wheelchair for
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two months and during those two months i was in a wheelchair i did not stop going to the gym i would
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still go to the gym and i wheel myself into the 24-hour fitness and uh people are looking at me
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all weird like i've never seen somebody in a wheelchair wheel themselves into a gym and i
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would jump onto the bench press and still outbench most of the guys there so that was nice but it's
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like i didn't like there's a difference between a person who makes excuses and gives those
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justifications for why they want to be lazy and someone who will claw tooth and nail to get out
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of the circumstance that they're in right then and the beginning stages of that is to be able to
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acknowledge hey i'm a fat obese like whale and i need to lose all this weight that's when i can
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start working with somebody i agree yeah yeah by the way pasty george i appreciate the michael
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jackson reference there or no wait no sorry weird owl it was a weird owl cover of a michael jackson
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very nice song the fat no yes yes yes instead of i'm bad yes i love that um and uh w's in the
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chat for pasty george where you been man good to see you good to see you pasty pasty jorge
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is what we're calling you our good canadian friend there uh okay finishing i guess more
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on the questionnaire damn i don't know if there's going to be much uh oh okay well uh we do have
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here we'll do this wrong for high body count men to prefer to date low body count virgin women uh
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jade you agree and then uh angelica you agree so why do you think that is i guess if you guys want
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to why is it wrong for a high body count man to want a virgin woman
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okay i'll go first um for me it's just more kind of like okay if you're out here just giving your
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seed to everybody yeah i'm not talking about just like oh like five six people whatever like you're
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just out here hoeing and then you are holding this woman to a standard of like pretty much like
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loyalty and commitment that you can't even uphold yourself like you have to be the standard that you
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also want so it's like you know if you're gonna have a 50 body count that's crazy for you to say
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like you okay deal breaker and what do you what do you think same thing it's like you guys have
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had different values and different you're more likely it doesn't cause it's not causation causation
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but it's probably correlated to a different kind of uh lifestyle that was had before
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yeah but so okay let i guess let me frame it like this so let's say through a man's
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experience he's dated a variety of women he's dated some women with low body counts someone
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with women with high body counts we all want the best that we can get he's made a determination
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that it happens to be the he believes uh whether from his own experience or just what makes logical
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sense, that women who've had sex with less men, he believes that they make for better partners.
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He believes that there's less of an STD risk. He believes that this woman has a better ability to
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pair bond with him. And it's just his preference. Seems like it'd be perfectly, despite his own,
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let's say it was, I mean, past promiscuity. He's just made a determination. Yeah, the best
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wife for me would be a virgin but he fucked 50 women before but it makes sense like the same
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kind of thing like how do i know like he's a partner i can trust if yeah he's just willy-nilly
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just giving it to everybody you know well so let me make a clarification here a woman who's a virgin
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i'm not saying i'm not saying a woman who's a virgin has to or should date a guy who has she
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can make her own determinations and have her own preferences on that and if if a woman uh doesn't
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want to date a guy who has a promiscuous past i don't have a double standard i think that's totally
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fine um i do think women tend to care less about a man's past if he was promiscuous or he was a
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playboy um there's a couple reasons for that but i don't there's not a double standard of course
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If the woman doesn't want to date the guy, I'm not saying like, okay, the woman who's
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She can be discerning and she could reject him, but I don't see an actual issue with
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a guy who has a past wanting to date the woman who doesn't have one.
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I mean, obviously we can all just want what we want.
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We all have those preferences and that's absolutely fine.
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it's just more like if you're kind of like i don't want to say like looking down i mean i guess
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looking down on someone who does have a higher body count but you're doing the same thing so
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it just feels a little hypocritical in a way where it's like for instance like he has a no body count
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right like and you just said like he should probably have someone that's like lower as well
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like you're not going to probably put on some girl who has 30 bodies and be like come get mason like
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you're deserving of him because like that's yeah that sure but so in a situation let's say there's
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a guy who he slept with 40 women and he was like you know what i've dated some women who have had
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quite an extensive history i've also dated some women with limited or no experience um
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and he's like i prefer that do you think it's wrong of him i'm by the way i'm not saying the
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women with low or no experience have to date him. I'm just saying, is it wrong for him to say,
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do something like this? Well, I'm going to almost exclusively look out for women with low body
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count or no body count. Well, no, I think everyone's open to their preference. So I think
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it is a little bit hypocritical because you contributed to those women's body counts and
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now you're looking for something that you haven't touched so you're you're you're contributing to
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the problem that you don't prefer why are you doing that well i mean even if it is the case
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that the man contributed uh i i don't see why this should prevent him uh from having a preference on
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this particular issue are we talking like also like preference or like deal breaker too because
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i do like you know i mean like i understand like a preference thing because we all have preferences
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well i mean that we preference i understand that a man who he himself has had a promiscuous past
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or he slept with many women and he uh he is open to dating a virgin or open to dating a low body
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count woman but he might also be open to dating a woman who slept with 10 20 30 men uh so i suppose
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it could not be a deal breaker for him but i guess i'm talking specifically about a guy who
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has a high body count who's only going after women with low body like that's just one of his
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that's one of sure it's a deal breaker yeah well that's where i just feel like it's just
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hypocritical he's not wrong for his own preference i don't think it's hypocritical but i do think it
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is well is it hypocritical for broke women to find billionaire men attractive i mean it's not
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um wrong from the front of them attractive but like if you're like you said someone who's broke
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and you're only like i'm only dated billionaire like i don't think that's right either because
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like you should be trying to elevate and or at least meet your person like you know like you
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should be at your best self so well if we're talking about should so then you're saying that
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a woman should only date a guy that she makes just like she has to make just as much money as him
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Not just as much, but it's more like I don't feel like it's right for you to be broke and be like, okay, well, now I'm about to go get with this billionaire and, like, you know, pretty much come up off of him and add nothing to that.
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Okay, well, do you find professional athletes attractive?
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But I probably wouldn't date a professional athlete.
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Did you play, were you, like, JV in high school?
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varsity in high school and then college basketball women's basketball though um but uh yeah ultimately
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though this idea that i guess i would frame it like this i don't believe that in order to desire
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a trait in a partner i don't believe you need to possess said trait so in this case uh
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the man who who he slept with a bunch of women the trait that he wants in a woman is either
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it's chastity it's purity it's uh low promiscuity no promiscuity virgin low body count he doesn't
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possess that trait but he wants it i don't think it makes him a hypocrite in the same way that
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women desire all kinds of traits in men that they themselves don't possess a woman like i don't
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think it's hypocritical for example for a woman to be attracted to and want to date a guy who's
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confident if she doesn't have confidence i don't think it's hypocritical for a woman who
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isn't funny at all to find attractive and want to date a guy who's funny it's all women a woman
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yeah which is pretty much all women um i'm letting the motorcycles go by i don't think
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it's wrong for a woman who um is dull to find men who are very charismatic attractive like i don't
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think like confidence charisma humor these are all things that i think women are very much attracted
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to it's never stopped an unfunny dull lacking in confidence woman from dating those men or
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finding those men attractive like no woman is like hmm I'm not very funny I shouldn't date this
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funny guy because it would be unfair to him I mean I think it's always like hard to generalize in
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general like um like oh it's wrong for them to want that when you're talking about a general
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sense it's because it's controversial I think it's also like if that man who is desiring this
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like virgin is almost who has the high body count is almost saying like if they're talking down to
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women who have a higher body count like you're dirty you're a whore it's not it's like well so
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are you not being funny that's why i say it's hypocritical not being charismatic isn't taboo
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if they're openly like putting down women who have higher body counts like you're gross you're
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disgusting you're a whore it's like okay but you yeah but you're you're smuggling you're smuggling
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in something that wasn't even suggested so there doesn't have to be a component of degradation to
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have the preference the man could just be like uh look i think that women who have little or no
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sexual history, uh, make for better partners. They're more attractive. They're less likely to
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have an STD, all the positive characteristics that are associated with it. Um, I don't think
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it necessarily has to be, I mean, you could have a private judgment, like you could be like, okay,
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you could be a guy who's fucked a hundred women and women can think that that's gross that you
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did that. And you could think that I, as the man in that situation, I would think it's gross that
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the woman fucked 100 men i don't see the problem with it though even if they're the judgment exists
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the preference is still valid so like i'm not okay it is a man who's fucked 100 women
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is he beholden to he can only date women who've fucked a lot of men too no no right but let's say
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you find your dream girl yeah your dream girl exists out there somewhere you're her dream guy
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it's fireworks and magic and you're about to have this beautiful one of seven children
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yeah um and you later find out that she was a hoe yeah well how do you feel now
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because you vetted her you're about i would have so she well part of my girlfriend application i
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ask the body count so i would have known from the get-go but she could lie to you well then now i
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have two issues with her she lied she deceived me she lied she induced me into a relationship
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without my consent uh kind of a little assessment you know a little weird that um most women lie
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and well men should not lie about a lot of things too but nobody should lie um but she also has the
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high body count uh i don't know bro it's probably the end of the relationship honestly i have never
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answered that uh twofold there no good can come of it if it is high i'm automatically judged and
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if it is low i'm a price to be won and i don't want either of those wait but hold on don't you
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wait when you're dating you want to put your best foot forward if i'm 18 19 20 years old yes
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no even if you're hold on not no when you're dating regardless of age you want to put your
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best foot forward if there is something about you a characteristic or trait or what have you
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that is appealing to men or is something desirous to men i i don't see how it be to to your detriment
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i'm being objectified because now i'm a prize to be one it's a thing well hold on a prize to be
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okay so you tell a man but i don't understand so you're objectifying me how would it be objectifying
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if i tell you oh my body count is two how would it yeah i'm a prize that would not be objectification
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that would be you possess a positive trait that like okay what if um well it's private and
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Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. What if a guy wants a woman who likes to read books and you disclose to him that you read books and he's like more attracted to you because you read books?
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Are you a prize to be won? Is he objectifying you?
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No, that's not. That's not objectifying me because that is not a taboo subject.
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That is not that is not that is not a subject of purity, a badge of honor.
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Like, I got a girl that's, you know, she's 30 and she's only had two bodies.
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When do you go, oh yeah, my girl likes to read books.
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That's why it's being objectified, in my opinion.
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I think there's plenty of scenarios, maybe not the book thing, but I also think I would actually like it, to be honest, if a girl read books.
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One of the girls, the Samantha girl who was supposed to be on the show, she actually apparently, at like the age of, I think she's in her 23, 22.
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she had only read her first book in 2024 whereas like but like at 18 or no she must have been 20
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and i'm like that's kind of sad like you're supposed to read books in school like what
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the fuck but um so i actually would find the book thing kind of appealing but um
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uh so sorry restate your thing uh it's taboo because it's private information you're not
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going to go around parading to people that your girl only has two bodies i wouldn't even but if
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you're so proud you know hey we get along really well we've both read uh the tempest by shakespeare
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together again you know that's something that you can share with other people well hold on but the
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it's not an ego thing internal ego absolutely well it depends what we mean by ego but uh first
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First off, I'm not sharing details about my girlfriend with my friends like that.
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It's stroking your own ego that you have somebody that's...
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So wait, it's wrong to desire things that you find positive in a partner?
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The reasoning of why you ask that is to stroke your ego.
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what wait i don't understand so like you have a prize to be won someone that's untouched
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well if her body counts too she's i mean except for he he has all the right to do that because
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he is untouched someone that has somebody hundred people it's they don't have ain't that what is it
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ain't that the pot calling the kettle black no no no no so again you don't need to possess the
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trait to desire or want the trait. Well, that's a taboo trait. It's a controversial trait.
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I don't see, hold on. I don't see how it's taboo. Because it's, it's taboo because there's
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judgment. You immediately have judgment. Are you going to judge someone because they like books?
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Are you going to judge someone because they like to swim? Are you going to judge someone because
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they like to uh dance are you gonna judge someone for another trade so i i agree with this point
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here um the reason we make that judgment is because there are there are a ton of negative
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outcomes that come from a woman who has slept with a lot of guys that's not a trade it's a lifestyle
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yeah i mean yeah yeah exactly causation but i don't know i would argue it could be causation
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just be the correlation does not negate causation so i would say i mean probably causal factor to
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them being a a bad wife is that she has slept with a ton of guys now i'm not saying that every
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single woman who has slept with a ton of guys is a bad wife because i there is a woman out there i
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know she's incredible wife and she slept with way too many men but it's because she has beaten
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herself up for having done that and she's worked extremely hard to get out from that situation
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so i'm not saying that it can occur but the sleeping with a ton of guys has caused it is a
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cause for very terrible traits and to eliminate those hey i'm just going to find a lady who
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hasn't even though i have right so when you're vetting your person all of those negative traits
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will come out without having to ask that but i could just make it easier by asking the hard
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question immediately or very soon you yes i think you you can you you have earned your right and
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well no even say like i had slept with 50 people i want to rip i want to know all these stuff i
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want to know all this stuff quickly because i don't want to invest my time get that emotional
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attachment to this person just to find this later on down the road and the heart and the decision
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to end things is going to be infinitely harder whereas i could have just asked this question
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early on figured it out and been like this just isn't for me i'm sorry and i also feel like at
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the end of the day if you guys have that big of a disagreeance on body count like friends like you
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feel like it's that important and i don't and like that's your deal breaker okay well then you're
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Exactly, which is why you probably should ask that question, figure that out pretty quickly.
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But even if I did have 50 bodies, it's probably good.
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Like, I mean, I can make the determination, okay, a woman who has as few bodies as possible, hopefully a virgin.
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Like, I know that they're not going to have that baggage that I know comes with having a bunch of bodies.
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and I'm going to probably sort through all of the women.
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I'm going to sort through the women that have all those bodies.
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I'm going to pick out the ones that do have very low body counts.
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Look, I think there's nothing wrong if a guy has fucked a bunch of chicks
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and he's like, you know what, I've seen what's out there.
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And it happens to be the case that the women with a low body count,
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I find them more attractive, less likely to have an STD,
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more desirable, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, nothing wrong. If he wants, he could have slept
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with 50 women, a hundred women. Now I'm not saying he's going to get her. Maybe she doesn't want to
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date him. I'm not saying the woman should date him. I'm just saying it's fine. If he, in his
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determination has said this type of woman is more attractive. Therefore I want to date her. There's
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nothing wrong with that i married him the the the strumpets your husband is a playboy he was a wild
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he was a horn dog he was a horn oh boy i didn't know it till i married man though you turned him
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good where where's he from tennessee he's from halena arkansas oh you got them arkansas boy i
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tell you what that men from arkansas they're known for getting some their saw we have been
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married a couple weeks and i asked him and he goes what's yours and i told him and i said what's
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yours he goes no and i was like what do you mean no he goes i'm not telling you and then he finally
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did decide to tell me but he couldn't remember so he carried around a little pad for a few days
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putting tally marks on it and when we got to like i don't even remember but it was just this
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ridiculous was it three figures like a hundred plus it was a lot of hoes that he'd been here
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and i looked at him and i said stop stop i can't she can't do it we're gonna let it go i've already
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done it we're married damn to this day it's a joke around the head it's it's blessed you have
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stepchildren you haven't even met probably i probably probably so i probably have adult
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well i'll tell you what i'll tell you what man um i'm just saying look it i don't see a problem
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with a man who's been around the block wanting a little southern virgin woman like i don't see
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a problem with that i was not a virgin i didn't have a six-year-old i'm not talking about well
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i'm not talking about you but i'm just saying look i don't think there's a problem ultimately
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though the thing is is that men uh men don't want to marry the town bicycle let me tell you that
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much uh yeah us men we don't want the town bicycle we want a woman uh of of good virtue
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and character uh purity we don't want no town bicycle i'll tell you what because uh she's been
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written by everybody brian why do you and i keep going down this line of weird voices
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hold on what if the town bicycle is a ferrari i could do like an italian i could do like a new
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jersey i could do a new york uh what's one i was thinking about doing i could do like kind of an
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upper crusty british accent that i you should do it used to annoy tiffany with tiffany yeah
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Guys, I need to see W's in the chat for DPG thing.
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Because she will be single in a couple months, right?
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she's playing the breakup wait how because you have an age cap though no no he he's like in his
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30s don't worry about it no he's he's like 37 um but so um when are you moving to north carolina
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december okay so like in eight months all right dpg where you live in dpg it's a it's the lighting
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to be honest he's 37 where you live dpg because i'm i got you bro i'm hooking it up
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do you like white guys i mean i don't like i wouldn't say no so he's he's a preference of
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like he saved me from a bear once he'll protect he'll protect you he will protect you rough and
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tough white boy like i can't be like a tech bro you know no he's rough and tough he's got guns
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nice he he was back uh he was uh in high school he won uh county in jv wrestling
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yeah county county uh and um he's he's he's got money he's he's got moolah so dpg big alpha
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I don't like the alpha beta thing, but he is an alpha male.
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okay well if you're i don't know if you're trying to do like an andrew tate like multiple wives
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thing dpg thing we don't share we don't have multiples question for you though
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rich everything like all the traits that you care about maximized personality perfect for you
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money richest man in the world perfect everything perfect in bed perfect body perfect everything
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would you share him no okay all right deal breaker yeah that would be horrible i think
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so i think a good amount of women would share a lot of women would like i think a lot of women
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would share the newport uh newport coast moms they they go in there they walk in oh i didn't
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see nothing i didn't see nothing yoda pasty i cannot do a pasty i cannot do a yoda impression
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i don't know how to do it i can't do it um yeah what do i know i can do the british one the like
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kind of italian i can do uh like a southern uh shit what else can i do uh
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i'd like to learn how to do a vietnamese accent like a fresh dangerous one to be
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fresh fresh off the boat vietnamese female go go to a nail salon i need to pick it up quick
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I want to hire a Vietnamese lady to read the messages so she can do it in the Vietnamese voice.
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By the way, George, you are not supposed to eat bears because apparently, even if you cook it, they have, I think, a parasite or something.
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I did hear, though, you can die from that shit.
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If you don't cook it well enough, you can die from it.
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But it is actually pretty difficult to die from.
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oh if you don't want to do it then yeah i mean if there's no reason you're just like
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no not tonight then i mean yeah i get it you would probably end up getting dumped well i think it's
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okay like in individual instances to just not be in the mood and like that's okay yeah um
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and it's like a pattern but yeah it's more like if there's a pattern like i don't think
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you've been dating you've been dating a girl for three years and she doesn't want to fuck once like
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no you shouldn't break up with her over that but like three months and she's like turning you down
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more often than she's having sex with you pattern recognition something's going on
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that's then i'm like i was i think i'm thinking from like the married standpoint like i had some
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really bad surgery complications and it was a few months oh well yeah yeah you gotta get away from
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me oh well yeah if you're like physically like incapable or you're in pain or you're recovering
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that's different that's different but we're talking like she's able-bodied and she's just
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like there's maybe a mismatch in desire or a mismatch in um uh what's the not desire
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libido so then you got to cut that loose because that doesn't work yeah yeah um
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uh dating is jade you agree with the following statement dating is harder for women
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why is that well just speaking from my experience of like here to be honest because as opposed to
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southern california compared to like where i'm moving to where a lot of like some of my values
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of what like a relationship and marriage is a little more aligned to over there because of
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those moral values where where I'm at in SoCal it's just kind of like everybody's just trying
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to fuck everybody energy and that just like doesn't so it's harder for me to find someone
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because nobody wants to just be with one person and be loyal to that person like they want that
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polyamorous or just that playboy lifestyle so that's what I would say is like just if your
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environment doesn't match your values it's harder okay um i also think that there's a lot of really
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good women out there versus like at least for my demographic then like some of the men
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there's a lot of good women so there's more good women than there are good men like i think the
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way that men are becoming which is like that passenger prince type of vibe is kind of like
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what a lot of women are running into now and to me like that's why it's harder because most women
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are looking for a man and that's just not really what's out there but like right now so men are
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not being men yes are women being women no a lot of women are being men like they're putting their
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no a lot of women are being children tantrum tantruming little baby oh bitches go off queen
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yes well i i think there's a degree of mutual inspiration so i don't want to place full blame
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on women i don't want to place full blame on men well certainly not that but but i do think
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this might fall a bit more on women i'm not saying it's fully women i think that there's a lack like
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for men to be men there has to be what are the incentives and it seems like there's not a lot
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of incentive uh for men and look you can say the same for women but there there's a lacking of
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inspiration so like what would inspire a man to be a man and it's like okay i'm gonna be this
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beacon of traditional values and i'm gonna be a beacon a paragon i'm gonna i'm gonna be a provider
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and i'm gonna be a protector and i'm gonna be the knight in shining armor i'm going to be the
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embodiment of virtue i'm going to be the embodiment of traditional gender roles
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and then they get onto the dating marketplace and they see promiscuous women blasted in tattoos no
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offense uh drug drug addicts and fucking alcoholics and all this shit and it's like
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the the women aren't holding up their end of the deal i feel like um they're they're ran through
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and it's like why should i be a man like why should i be a man to this woman
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when like i don't know why should i for example like a lot of women have an expectation for men
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to protect why should i protect why should i be willing and also for question four husband
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husband should be willing to die protecting you uh husband for all of you you circled that right
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and you're not wrong for circling that but i think to myself like if i gotta die the woman
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should at least be a virgin oh my yeah like i think it's a bigger ask that for for me to
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die or potentially die or have the willingness to die for you then for me to ask women or for
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my woman or a woman to be a virgin i don't think it's a big ask in the sense of i would be willing
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to die for my partner for my husband like if that if i had to take a bullet for my man like i'm gonna
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take a bullet for my man same way i would for my child not not all women think that but i i i guess
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that adds some validity however i would say that in a hypothetical scenario where only one of you
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dies who should die well then that's like an impulse choice because i would never choose
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my husband to die my husband wouldn't let me he wouldn't he wouldn't let you no he wouldn't let
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me be the one but who do you think who do you think should be the one willing to die
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if one of you in a hypothetical has to die i can't answer that okay what do you think
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i like someone comes into our house and enters our bedroom and no it doesn't even have to be
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so okay the hypothetical is simply one of you has to die it could be one of you has to die or i'm
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gonna kill one of your children like no it's just supernatural so like the the grim reaper
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appears and is like you guys can talk amongst each other uh you have to pick i'm taking one
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of your lives all of us or none no my we that's not an option i would be like i'll this is how it
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would go be like i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it and then finally he would just push me out of the
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way and do it like i know our dynamic it would be both of us like i'm gonna do it you know what i
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mean and then finally he'd be like no it would be sit down and he would do it okay but would you
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want him i wouldn't want him to no i would try to do it but you would try to do it i would but
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he wouldn't let me how i read it is like if we're confronted on the street like i do believe that
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a man should walk on the sidewalk side of the street for protection all that so if we're getting
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mugged yeah yes i do expect him to protect me okay but so what do you think i i can you repeat
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the question uh so okay in a hypothetical scenario where the man or the woman has to die
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which one do you think should take the death um for me personally i would do it you would do it
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i would do it okay how about this let me change this scenario a little bit you are on a boat
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and you see a boat in the distance. Now you're not able to intervene because the choppy seas or
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whatever. You're on a boat. You see a husband and a wife on that boat. They don't have children.
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There's one life preserver on their sinking boat. There's no loopholes, by the way. They can't hang
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on to each other. They can't swim. The outcome is pre-decided. Only one of them can get the life
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preserver. The other one will definitively die. In that circumstance, they can amongst each other
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make a decision as to who gets the life preserver. Which person would you more harshly judge
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for getting the life preserver so you see the man uh opting to wanting to survive and taking the
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life preserver the woman dies or the woman uh they came to determination and the woman keeps
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the life preserver the man dies do you judge the woman more harshly or do you judge the man more
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harshly the man would get judged more harshly yes i agree with that and when i'm viewing it
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from a different perspective, the women should live
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because they can go on and carry life and do more.
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In that circumstance, yes, I believe a man would be judged harsher.
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I personally would not because that's just a decision I could never.
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Okay, but you do acknowledge society would judge the man harsher.
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but do you judge harsher the man or the woman i if i if it had nothing to do with me and it was
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just like if i had to pick one just random no you you don't pick who dies they you there's two
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scenarios either the man is choosing to survive or the woman's choosing to survive the man should
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be the one to give it to give his life yes okay uh now you said do you think that men and women
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Well, if I recall, you said that the woman should get the life preserver
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because she can go on to have children and do more.
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Men's genetic material is necessary and needed to have children.
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We need less men than we do women to carry the children.
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I don't even understand the argument, to be honest.
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So the woman could have kids so she's more valuable.
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Why would she be more valuable if men and women, if you have one man and one woman, do they have same value or does the woman have more value?
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It depends the age and what they have at home.
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Then she would probably have more value because she can go and find another man who could, then she could have children with.
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so okay that woman is already on the island and safe she's gonna go find somebody else
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she's already procreating he doesn't she doesn't need him wait what the woman that's already safe
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if you save the man if you save the man the woman you're saying that she he can go find someone and
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procreate with her but that woman was never in danger oh shit dang ah sorry i repeat that
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he can go and find a woman and procreate with her
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They're both 25 and they're on the boat, right?
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At 25, she has more value because she can go back into society and procreate and make children.
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25-year-old men can't go back to society and procreate and have children.
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The argument is that he would only go back into society to find a woman that was never in danger in the first place.
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So she was already going to procreate with other men in society.
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When you were first talking and you told her, pretend you're watching the water and you see a boat out there and there's two people.
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she's talking about the woman that's watching this happen is that correct yes okay she she
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took the scenario you gave her what that's what she's talking about when you said you're you're
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watching the boat go down and there's a man and a woman and only one will survive when you were
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asking her which one should drown she's taken when you said that into effect but that's not part of
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what yeah that's still incoherent yeah it's not part of it it's just when you were trying to
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explained you're talking about the viewer yes yes what that wouldn't change anything
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you're making zero sense let me tell you there's men and women on this boat
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there are two women and two men in society where the fuck did i ever include that in the hypothetical
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because the woman you're saying the woman has you're asking me does the woman have more value
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That's why she's more valuable at that age because she's of childbearing age.
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but the woman is the one that can actually make the baby with somebody else okay with the man but
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but the man isn't carrying the child he's not the vessel he still makes it hold on but there's other
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okay there's other men who can give her seed and there's other women who are the vessel yeah but
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if you get rid of a let's say there's only two people two women left in your society that you're
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going back okay but there was never granted in the hypothetical that this is wait hold on so
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wait wait that doesn't even wait wait this even using your backwards framework so okay let's say
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there's only four people alive or wait hold on wait wait there's four people alive there's two
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men and two women it's getting so complicated okay so then why why are men drafted into the army
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you're all over the place hold on wait that's that's the same logic that i'm that i'm stating
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men are drafted into the army because society will go on more uh successfully if you protect
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the women and the children uh this works in like small tribal conflict uh it it really doesn't map
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because I know they're going to send their men.
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I'm going to send my best versus their best.
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There is a component when it comes to keeping women in the interior and protected.
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There is a historical component when it comes to warfare.
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It is true that when it comes to repopulating, if you get decimated in a war and repopulating your population,
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that yeah like in that sense um like a given woman has more value in that sense but i'm talking about
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moral value inherent value in this in a society like there's billions of people currently alive
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so in this hypothetical scenario the man goes back to society there's plenty of women he can
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impregnate the woman goes back to society there's plenty of men who can impregnate her men and women
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have inherent equal value in uh equal moral value okay so where my mind went was if i had to pick
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one because i have to pick one i have to pick one that's that's why it matters by age
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to me i have to pick one okay so if the woman is 50 and she can no longer have children
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you pick the man they're both 50 uh so the woman no wait hold on women are basically infertile at
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50 yes i know that's what i'm saying okay the man can still bust nuts yes and get women pregnant
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yes at 50 okay great so after at that point there would be no judgment there would be no judgment
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wait no hold on you're going to actually see your logic here you're actually going to have to say
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the moment any woman who's either infertile or doesn't have the capacity to have children
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or she's above a certain age she has to die that would be the that'd be the entailment of your
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position she has to die so any woman basically you know when she has no ability no she doesn't
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they have equal value equal value but hold on your whole argument is the ability to reproduce
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A man can reproduce into his 50s, 60s, and 70s.
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So, therefore, men beyond the age of 45, I mean, women can still get pregnant.
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But then this would have to equally apply to the other women.
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If she dies, I can go in and impregnate other women with my seed.
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If your seed is that desirable, then yes, I agree, but it has nothing to do.
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There's plenty of other men willing to spread their seed already.
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A given woman has opportunities for getting pregnant.
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A man will have future opportunities to get women pregnant.
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If there are, if there are a hundred women to one man, that one man, those a hundred
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So that's why it has to do with, is that male really that critical in that scenario?
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No, he's not that adding that one more man from the boat isn't adding any more value
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There's no, there's no dispute about the biological reality that, uh, eggs are expensive and
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However, it wasn't granted in the hypothetical that this is some, like, reproduction –
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No, but it wasn't granted in the hypothetical that it was some sort of, like, reproduction apocalypse where it's, like, this is the woman who is going to be responsible for, like, propagating the population in society.
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but it's i had to give it a reason who in the hypothetical exists in the uh in the current
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state of affairs of the world which is there's like four billion other women in the world there's
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four billion other men in the world the man can go and fuck a woman and get her pregnant
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the woman can go and get fucked and get pregnant
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it came in six minutes ago sorry i was so zoned in i was so zoned in so uh can you get me uh do
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you wait how old are you sorry uh champagne champagne champagne yes please champagne i'll
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take it all right i'll take uh two chains five cups five wait one two three four four cups four
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cups to you thank you very much let me open see if i can open this uh thank you tiffany
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tiffany pull up that super chat so mullington can read it for us go ahead pull it up for
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mullington for for the rachel comeback tour men don't bail because a woman gains 200 pounds in
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a long relationship but woman will bail if he steps out because she gains 200 pounds
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make it make sense and if rachel ever becomes single i know a guy bro oh my rachel look rachel
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i think she's in the chat by the way uh rachel has a wonderful husband that's crazy that you
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fucking say that wild and i'm fairly certain rachel would bury herself with with her husband
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i you know what i not to be morbid here you know i that that thing we were talking about earlier
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where i was like if a woman breaks up with me i want her like on the oh yeah on the like if i
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take a mississippi boat ride i want her on the cliff crying every evening waiting for me hoping
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i feel like that's what rachel would do i don't know if rachel like starts dating again like i
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don't think she remarries i think she's just like rachel chime in um yeah let us know yeah let us
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know i think rachel just like i don't know if she becomes a nun or something something like that i
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don't think she um i i don't think that she she like starts dating or remarries like i just think
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she's got a picture i feel like she does what the the steve erwin's wife has done just like nothing
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i've met my one true love that's it i'm done rachel confirm or deny yeah confirm or deny
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I don't know if I'm going to be able to open this one.
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Alright, let me pour some liquor here for the fine folk
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Very nice. Andrew has ruined me for all other men. Nobody could ever compete
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with Andrew's ghost. Exactly. See, exactly. Makes sense. Yeah. I was saying earlier that
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like I would ideally want, you know, if I'd been dating a girl for three months that she should
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just be on the cliff side crying every evening, waiting for me to return from my voyage to the
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new world. She should be waiting. She shouldn't be dealing with some other dude. Like, so I feel
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like rachel i don't know i don't think i think she's she's just loyal to andrew in perpetuity
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and in perpetuity good word in perpetuity that's a good one we got to bring that back
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uh okay we have here mason can you read this one for us i'll read it j-o-d okay uh you serious
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panel women literally want men to be their beat bitch i guess i guess i'm sure and don't want
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back backtalk we get called sassy and women don't respect us they want us to obey them and let them
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do as they please this is true this is true that is the typical thing i run into yeah man honestly
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though on that note i think that the relationship works best when the woman is more into you than
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you're into the woman i could see that i think i think that's the best dynamic i kind of agree
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you know what i mean i agree with that this is weird to me because i don't have this kind of
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relationship with my husband like it you're both just into each other yeah we just we have well
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that's okay yeah we're not saying like he's not into you it's like hey i'm gonna be very very
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into this lady but i want this lady to be more very very into me we've been together a long time
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i think it takes that might be okay like at the beginning but when you've been together as long
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as we have it's different yeah no i could agree with that like when i look at my my mom and dad
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like i can't say like there's no way i could ever wait who likes more right right um wait i had a
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thought on something fuck shit totally forgot uh it's like the the admirer or the admired
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admirer or the admired which one is better because the admirer feels like they're getting like
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they're getting more whereas the admired you're just kind of like she's there great
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i don't know i don't know um you have to make a conscious effort i think every day to choose your
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person and to be on both sides of that truthfully wait really quick going back to our little
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dispute here over the sinking boat or whatever uh it's below the threshold but this actually
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brought a good thing one man can impregnate 100 women but one woman can't have 100 children
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now what about this though who's more valuable in wait hold on let me think about this who is
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more valuable who would be more productive or valuable uh there's the sinking boat sinking
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boat and this is an island civilization and it's the only civilization there's a sinking boat okay
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uh and well who would be who would be no you know what fuck it there's not a sinking boat
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there's an island civilization and on that island there's one man versus a hundred women
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or you have a hundred men with one woman oh my god you would want to have so those are two
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separate uh two separate hypotheticals i would argue that that one man is more valuable than
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that one woman yeah in that circumstance oh yeah agreed because that one woman she can only get
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pregnant like she can't get the dudes pregnant but she can die from a hundred men being after
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her all the time so i don't know if we're gonna take that if you're gonna go down that road i
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think we would have to say that you you have a situation a hundred women one men one women a
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hundred men that one man is more valuable comparatively than the one woman this is a
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really retarded scenario i don't know i just made up yeah well technically speaking it's
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well it's is more valuable to have more women it's a well in this in this scenario the other
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scenario that's a more optimal scenario yeah i agree i agree because a hundred women can get
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pregnant only one so your your society is going to be more flourishing but uh that that man okay
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i don't know whatever all the children that it was a really stupid scenario an insentuous society so
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you need more variety at that point true fair true i would do my duties if i'm sure they would
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have to hold a gun to your head to get you i it would be a lot of suffering in that it would be
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so terrible how would you make it how could i ever survive i think they do that with cattle
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with like cows and bulls oh shit one bull and yeah they get all the yeah yo indy but indy indy
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i don't know if he's like watching from like three hours back when did when were we talking
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about homogenous that was a long time ago i think he just referenced homogeneity yeah he just
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referenced what a fucking legend what a legend by the way dpg thing just dipped after i just gave
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him all those compliments and i was trying to get him set up or whatever i was trying to get him
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like a lady friend or whatever maybe he's watching with his lady friend and the lady friend's like
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yeah it's over bro you're never watching this shit again he's trying to i didn't know but to
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be in my defense i did not know that he had he had a lady he had a lady friend all right uh okay so
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dating harder for okay whatever um let's see if there's anything else uh you think women put in
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or effort when it comes to dating and angelica why is that i can speak for myself and my
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friends uh women we hair makeup dress shoes you know shower shave all the things you know it's
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it's a lot of work you know we're we're getting ready for like two hours just cleaning ourselves
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but men don't care you could show up in a paper bag and they'd be like sup
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i mean i think a woman could do like the equivalent of men's prep so like take a shower
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you know maybe just do a bit of stuff to your hair like so it's not a total mess put on your clothes
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and men would be fine with it most also is it women wear makeup for men or they do it for
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themselves pick a lane for themselves um so they're gonna do it for yourself you are back
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you're not i feel better when i have i don't wear a lot of makeup to begin with but fair enough i do
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feel more put together and i don't have a problem going out for your man or do you
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wear makeup for yourself i like to get up and do bare minimum tinted moisturizer well so yeah okay
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that's not necessarily the question i'm asking like are you doing your makeup because
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you like it are you doing your makeup so it appeases the man i like it so i feel put together
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okay so it's for you yes okay so you're not doing it so it's not effort you're putting into the
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relationship it's effort you're putting into yourself you would be putting in yourself
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regardless correct but i would i put on more effort like to do a little bit more if i'm going
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on a date i would so it's a little more effort yes so it's a little day it's five minutes
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uh on a date i'm probably spending 20 minutes okay okay uh yeah so i mean do you do not think
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like i think men put in they're obviously not putting makeup on but i would say they probably
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put more effort in it's just behind the scenes effort that you don't get to see so like the
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only reason a man's gonna be able to date you is he makes more than you so he's gonna have to have
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a job he's gonna have a job that he's been pouring a lot of work into for so many years the all the
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work that you haven't been able to see and like uh and that's just pretty much any any woman that
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sits down at this table i say he has to be making at least what i make her more so he's had that
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behind the scenes work he's also probably uh i'm gonna guess you guys probably uh with like a fit
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man more than an unfit man so you're gonna want a guy who spends hours and hours in the gym i mean
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i love the gym so regardless of uh if i'm gonna have a woman or not i'm gonna go to the gym but
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i've spent i've poured 15 years of my life blood sweat and tears in the gym um there's that there's
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uh he like he has to have had some kind of experience that he can demonstrate that he's a
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mature man who knows his way around a room that uh he like comes off to people like he is authoritative
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He has all of those traits that take a lot of extra work to obtain.
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Traits that I don't know if women tend to have to put that same amount of effort into.
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i think having been in a marriage where i planned the dates was that was easier than the actual
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getting ready part for me because it's a reservation you know and yeah well i'm not
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saying like uh well i mean there is the i mean generally speaking nowadays i mean i'm not speaking
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to your like the situation you were in but men typically have to do all the things i just listed
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plus they have to go out of their way to like ask you on the date which i think is good i think it
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should be a man who does that so he needs to put that effort in but it has to risk getting rejected
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he also has to plan the date which i think he should but he has to plan the date he also has
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to pay for the date um uh eventually i mean then he'll continually have to pay for this relationship
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i mean obviously sometimes maybe you'll throw something in but generally speaking he'll have
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to pay for all that stuff and eventually he's going to be the one who has to buy the ring
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get down on the knee it seems like he's having to put all of this effort in and all you have to do
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is kind of just sit there and have makeup on pretty yeah i'm not saying that's all you do
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but in the dating scheme it seems like that's all you have to do we also have to i mean i haven't
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date in a long time i think i went on obviously four dates before i found the man i'm with today
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and i was appalled you know by what i saw yeah um but i just think
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yes i guess men do uh i guess from a financial standpoint they have to
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pay for a lot of dates to then find the one um yeah but i don't think you know it's not just
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like paying for the dates i also think they put the reputation on the line like i'm gonna go ask
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this hot chick if she wants to go get go on a date with me and if we're in public like she can
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absolutely eviscerate me in front of like a bunch of people i've seen too many videos of that
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happening i mean i'm sure like not just in video format but i'm sure that happens way too often
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like i know guys who walk up to girls at the gym that they're into like it could ruin their ability
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to go to that gym because if that girl goes to the gym all the time well i can't go there anymore
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because goodness gracious uh compare like everyone at the gym is going to have seen me get rejected
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by this girl she's going to rip into me like all this drama could be brought up i don't know if i
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really want to do that so it's like there's a lot of there's a great like social as well as financial
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cost yes upon men um that i mean in the social cost not generally found upon women um i think
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the question was it's harder yeah yeah that's what i'm saying like that'll be harder it's harder
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um women don't get rejected really um and if they do it's very gently yes it was i i never
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approached a man but i did give the eyes like it's okay to come talk to me i don't know he was
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married but he was i didn't see the ring i just his hands were down here uh but he's like i i saw
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you i didn't make eye contact with you because i unfortunately i married but trust me i i did see
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you yeah fair enough fair enough well maybe we can make a determination like this we could you know
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go back and forth women have these struggles men have these struggles i think that men
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would be willing, and this might be the easiest way to settle this, I think men would very happily
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switch in terms of the dynamics when it comes to dating and relationships. I think men would
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very happily switch the dynamic. So women pursue, women pursue, women pursue. We're more passive.
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women come to us we pick amongst the women who uh not not that there's anything that would even
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prevent us from shooting our shot in the same as is the case for women but although women
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overwhelmingly don't do that i i think men would be more willing to change roles not change sex
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to be clear men stay men women stay women but i do think men would be way more open to uh from a
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dating perspective swap roles it would make things easier honestly and when i say swap roles
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the complication though with this scenario is what role specifically like are we talking okay
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are women masculine and are men feminine i don't think i'm talking about that i'm talking about
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like, okay, uh, women approach men, like that dynamic swapped. Um, and maybe the entailments
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of that might change. Okay. Well, in the way that men will pursue women purely for sex and women
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get used for sex. Well, sometimes men get used for sex in the swapped scenario. I think men take
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that trade. I don't know if women take the trade. Like, I don't think, I don't know if women take
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the trade of you guys have to shoot the shot you guys have to pay for dates you guys have to take
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all the initiative excuse me you have to move things forward physically sexually etc you got
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to make all those first moves I don't think women do that trade no we're not because I will say like
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men definitely have more pressure when it comes to like the dating scene because like is it's
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I think back like because I kind of operate off like courtship right you know and it is like the
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man has to go you know talk to the family they have to go pursue this person they have to plan
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the dates and i think sometimes that's also the difference between right man and boy is like for
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women it can feel like we are putting in more when you're dealing with a boy because they're not
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planning the dates they're not putting in the effort to like go the extra mile the way a man
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would if that makes sense well what do you guys think about that scenario i presented so the roles
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to a degree reversed you guys have to be the pursuers you guys have to be the one shooting
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your shot you guys have to be the one who have to deal with like constant rejection i wouldn't mind
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the like the um you see someone who's attractive and you go up and talk to them and you shoot your
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shot that would be fine but then at that point if they're like oh yeah she's i want to go out with
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her it would switch it would like give them the go that i'm not gonna say i don't like you or
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you're ugly or i don't want to talk to you what what have you but then he would take back over
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the mail you know the usual thing of taking you out because he would know where you stand he
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wouldn't have to shoot a shot because you already shot it i mean i i'm glad that i'm a woman and
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the guys do that would you trade um i think women like i was i don't know if you were here but i'm
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like women give you the eye they look at you they do the eye contact they tell you it's okay to
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approach them uh well hold on what okay that doesn't answer my question first then i'll adjust
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that so that's that's kind of giving you the signal i'm not going to reject you i want you
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to come talk to me that still doesn't address my question should uh should women pursue and
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physically walk over would you make that trade no okay so you you enjoy your position of privilege
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of being the pursued i enjoy my position of my privilege yes your privilege yes yeah so yeah i
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do believe it's a privilege to be in this role where you get to sort from the men who approach
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you and this idea that women giving the eyes that's the woman doing the approach simply staring
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at somebody and twitching your eyelid not scary yeah i understand that but uh making eye contact
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with somebody i can that that's not that's not that's takes zero effort that that that's not
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initiative really like okay you glance at a guy for two seconds like no you gotta go no the thing
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is like i've heard like i've heard i've heard a million stories of like guys telling me oh well
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this girl looked at me at the gym or at the bar and i went up to her and tried to talk to her and
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she immediately shut me down so it's like our ability to like discern what you guys mean when
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you guys look at us is pretty garbage so it's like hey maybe like come up and talk to us you
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know i don't know but yeah so the thing is like yeah i mean there is that cost of us trying to
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shoot our shot not saying like i wouldn't i mean i'm a player i'm gonna i'm gonna shoot my shot
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obviously my uh my zero yeah but i mean also this idea like it's also kind of super
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fucking lame for a guy to be like i will only approach if i get like some preemptive
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signal like if a guy's interested in you he should shoot his shot regardless of the signal or
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whatever she's more approachable friendlier more open to communication that's that's what i okay
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Every of all the times you've been approached in your entire life, what percentage of the time did you give the eyes?
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I don't have much experience for that, but I want to say 50%.
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But so, okay, 50% of the men that did approach you didn't have the signal.
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Right. Yeah. So it's like, I mean, the burden is on men. There's an initiative burden. Men have to
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approach. Men have to make the first move. Men have to carry things. Men have to pay for dates.
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There's an expectation. Men have like some financial standing to be able to provide
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and pay for the dates. So my position is dating is harder for, for men. And, you know, again,
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we can each list while women have to wear, put on makeup and women have to do X, Y, Z,
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and they take a lot of time to look pretty i'm not even going to argue with that um i could but
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ultimately though i do think in situations where we could like flip uh you know the just the
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initiative burden like men definitely take that take that trade uh women do not take that trade
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uh so i don't know i think that's a lot of the romance is i'm very attracted to someone
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even if i'm not physically attracted to them there's something about them that came that they
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wanted to talk to me that i appreciate and i thank them for that i'm very flattered
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okay um well speaking of like sort of initiative and paying on dates the final things from the
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questionnaire here all of you uh agreed with the first four statements which are men should pay on
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first dates men should provide protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to die
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protecting me or you take taking the bullet all of you circled those uh all of you agree
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uh why should men do these things then let's start with the first one why should men pay for dates
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i feel like that's just part of their end of the deal they're the man's end of the deal okay uh
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before we get in i'll give everybody a chance what's your thoughts as far as paying for dates
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it's more to me about um like i am putting in a lot of initial investment to get ready for the
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date so it's like the least you do is pay for my meal you know what i mean like that for a first
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date because for if i'm getting ready on a date i'm getting my hair done that's 150 i'm sorry
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hold on really quick i gotta interrupt you uh somebody in the chat audrey here oh shit you're
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gonna get called out uh audrey you know what i'm not gonna even debate you in the chat uh
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come on the show, come on the show and we can have a discussion on the show. You can state
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your disagreements. So I don't know, Audrey, if you're just kind of lacking in critical thinking
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and logical thinking. So me posing questions doesn't mean that prescriptively I'm suggesting
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that there should be a reversal of the roles. That's not what I'm suggesting. Simply having
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a homosexual. Don't worry, I won't call you a
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And then she will say, well, I did eat this morning.
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She's unable to just like think outside of her reality that she lives in.
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But having a conversation about it wouldn't imply homosexuality.
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Tell you what, Audrey, you can come on the podcast.
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I'll buy you a slice of pizza and we can fuck afterwards.
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and then uh we'll see how much of a homosexual i am uh challenge except i think sometimes women
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call you gay to see if you want to like to try to get them to fuck you know like a woman would be
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like call you gay and it's a challenge like oh let me prove to you how much of a heterosexual i am
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like it's uh i don't know she's it's it's weird so look audrey i don't know you might not be my
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type though but we'll see if you if you're you bring me some baked goods let's see how your
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sourdough is and we can talk okay uh you can dm out whatever audrey and we'll get you on the show
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and um and uh we'll have a discussion about my uh homosexuality or lack thereof uh speaking of
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which uh i guess wait so okay back to this didn't mean to cut you off but i had to i saw audrey
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talking shit so i gotta you know i gotta address it audrey send a fucking dm on our instagram at
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whatever send a dm audrey and we'll have you on the show go ahead um yeah just pertaining to like
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a first date i just feel like that there's a lot more financial investment on the woman's side as
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far as preparing for it versus like the man having to pay the one yes that's where yeah yeah well can
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i ask you a question so is your argument the woman invests more time and energy and she spends money
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on the makeup and cosmetics uh and so because she spends conceivably more money for the date
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the man should pay uh pay for the date yeah for the first date for the first date okay so can i
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ask you a question though let's say uh i take a woman who works at chick-fil-a uh out on a date
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and she does put on some makeup she puts on some eyeliner some mascara and maybe i don't know
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something else or whatever i pick her up because uh my part of the date is to pick her up right and
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i'm gonna take her to a restaurant i pick her up in a ferrari i've spent more money showing up to
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that date than she has and she works at chick-fil-a and say i make millions of dollars a year
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because i've spent more money in preparation for that date couldn't i just argue she should
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pay for the date well you didn't buy the ferrari for the date and he didn't buy wait so hold on
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Let's say that makeup that she purchased, she clearly purchased it, say, before she met me.
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And she wears makeup because she likes to wear makeup for personal reasons.
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Well, I mean, yeah, even in general, though, I do still believe that a man should pay for the first date.
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No, but your argument was the man should pay for the first date because conceivably women pay more.
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No, but if the argument is men should pay on first dates, because look, and I'm willing to even grant, perhaps in most situations, in terms of preparation, women will probably, you know, with the makeup and whatever, the hair, women's haircuts cost more, although they don't get their hair cut as frequently as men, but whatever.
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um i would say okay sure women spend more money generally speaking but using your logic say i'm a
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i'm a multi-millionaire and she works at chick-fil-a but i'm spending more money getting
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ready for the date logically wouldn't it follow that she has to pay for the date well no because
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i feel like even in that if you're a millionaire like you're like why would you expect well okay
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let me ask you this let's say uh i'm going on a date with a woman and she spends more money
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because I personally just feel like men should pay
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on the first date. Okay, but so then your argument
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because person no no you're gonna have to abandon that line of argumentation because person x whether
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it's the man or the woman makes more money ergo they should pay for the date but i've just
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demonstrated to you like for example the guy shows the guy's rich shows up with a rolex and
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a ferrari and a super nice suit um i mean you might okay let's say he even buys the suit
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in preparation for the date yeah i can abandon that okay all right i said before because it's
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more about the value wise i did get you to abandon you did i did get you to abandon it though okay
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so why should men pay for me it shows uh generosity should women also be generous i am very generous
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should women be generous if i absolutely okay so what she should pay for the date um or go 50 50
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i have when we are in a committed relationship i have no problems doing that okay but we're
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talking about like first first dates first dates no i so okay but it shouldn't it demonstrate her
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generosity if women should be generous uh generosity is uh i think a trait that is most
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and this is gender roles is more important for men to show initially than women to show it
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so what what trait should women be showing in the in this situation for a traditional man
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all of their traditional values which means which are what which are what yeah which means
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taking care of me that first date wait so yeah what's a woman what are the women what are the
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female traits that they need to be displaying to the man on that first date i'm willing to
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accept it can i pay for that date absolutely you're willing to accept accept what uh behavior
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femininity is receiving also being able to accept and be thankful for that wait so
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the traits that you need to display are that i'm gonna take your stuff no no not take your stuff
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that's what receiving is wait what traits are you displaying are you giving to this man
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to show that i should like me paying for this first date is worth it we have vetted each other
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for a while now i'm not going out i'm not meeting you today and going out with you on a date tomorrow
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i have been talking to you for a minimum of two weeks and we know each other so then why is he
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paying for that date then because you've determined that he's generous he's already displayed that
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i don't know that he's generous we've never been on a date so so what traits are is he finding out
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about you on this first date because you're finding out generosity he knows enough about
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me that he wants to spend time with me physically so so again what what traits are is he figuring
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out about you on this first date because you're figuring out his generosity we'll give you that
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you're figuring out generosity what are you giving shared experiences so we can bond together
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shared experiences time together you bond together you could only talk to each other
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on the phone and text each other for so long before you want to spend more time together
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so i want to spend time what is he investing in our relationship because he knows me for
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you know he knows about wait really quick we're gonna get right back to this topic
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you said you're half black right okay keep going sorry i'm sorry i don't want to know
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i don't want to know sorry sorry sorry keep going that's that's all it is it's just a joke
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it's a joke it's a joke it's a joke it's a stupid you like me enough to ask me on a date
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i will gladly accept i do want to spend time with you and now yes i think because i guess why is the
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man paying because i am more of a traditional woman and i'm going to go for so okay so what
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is that traditional what are the traditional things that a man is expecting uh from this
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first date with a woman um would it turn you off as a traditional man if a woman paid for the date
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uh yeah yeah it would that's why i don't do it okay so what i'm expecting certain things from
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this date what are you expecting what are you expecting obviously i'm not expecting from sleep
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with me but i'm expecting like virtues to be displayed what what i what i always find in
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these in these uh in these conversations i have with women is they never really understand that
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men are looking for a virtuous woman yeah like we're looking for someone a good i don't want
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to say godly man is looking for a virtuous woman who's someone who's kind who is like looking for
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leadership who wants to be a good helper who wants to be able to support you um where she's not
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expecting you to just pay for everything i mean obviously i when i go on a first date i'm going
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to but she's not assuming that of me like she doesn't assume that she just needs to be able
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to receive whatever she can get from me because that's what she deserves as a woman no no no
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she wants to be there like and she wants to display those virtues to me and one of those
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key virtues that gold bar that she should have still have is her virginity like i protect myself
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i i cherish those virtues that i hold strong to so when you take me on this first date i'm gonna
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explain those to you. I'm going to show those to you. I'm going to be extremely kind to the
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awaiting staff. I'm going to be extremely kind to you. I'm going to be interested in you. I'm
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going to display those virtues. I never encountered that in these conversations.
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Like, why are those never talked about? I think those are extremely important for us, man.
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One quick question. I want to ask a question to the chat.
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Do you guys think a woman, like, I don't know, I've had this experience, not that I,
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like i don't really care and i don't think you should necessarily thank the person for just like
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doing what their role is necessarily but i do think from like a purely polite courteous thing
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like for example if a friend treats me to dinner i would thank them i've definitely been on dates
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with women it could even be your girl like i want my girlfriend i think should say thank you
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yeah if i take her if i yeah i mean i'm always going to be paying i'm always paying for the
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food but yeah she should say thank you for the lunch or thank you for the dinner like that's
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just a courteous thing beyond just dating and relationships but yo question for the chat have
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you ever gone on a date with a woman and you paid the entire bill and she didn't do well okay two
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questions for the chat do you think she should say thank you like hey thank you for the dinner
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thank you for the day um and then have you ever been on a date with a woman where you paid for
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the dinner whatever date and she did not thank you say it in the chat say in the chat people in
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the chat are saying yes the woman should say thank you and then tell us um if you've been on a date
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where the girl did not thank you because just saying oh yeah it's the least she can okay audrey
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Oh we got this is pointless with the red hair
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that she pegs men just kidding i'm kidding i am joking she does not do that i made that up
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uh i don't know i've definitely been on dates either first dates or dates with a girlfriend and
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then again do i thank a woman when she cleans my house or does my laundry i fuck her after
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but do i thank her i think that's a thank you to make her come that's a thank you
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i'd rather have the thank you oh yeah are you sure oh yeah are you sure women are good at
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faking so like are you sure she's getting hers or is she just being nice oh uh well i mean i think
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it's uh i should add that to my i should add that to my girlfriend application do you fake orgasms
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like but no women should not fake orgasms and uh yeah no you shouldn't um so i mean it's possible
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a woman's but it's kind of polite what's polite you don't want to like sometimes make someone feel
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bad you know what i mean so it's like you're like okay like i don't care everybody's i don't care
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sometimes but some men do like yeah but that's pathetic like it's almost like you're protecting
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their ego no no no no first off you shouldn't lie it's it's bad and then if the guy thinks he's
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pleasing you but he's not it's really bad communicate women always hold on women women
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complain about how oh men are terrible communicators you guys fucking fake orgasms like
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what that's no here tell the guy what you like uh you know communicate with him tell him what
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you like if he's not rubbing you in the right place or whatever communicate that to him but uh
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yeah no women should not fake orgasms because it's like he if he thinks he's bringing you to
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climax but you're not climaxing he's going to continue to do that thing but it's not always
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like i think when you as you get older like you get more confident to advocate for yourself that
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way in those situations but especially when you're younger you kind of are like learning and you
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almost like don't know if it's you if it's them and then you don't want to like you don't know
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how someone's going to respond so yeah I could say hey like you're not really getting me where
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I need and they can be super offended and like it takes a left turn or they could be receptive
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you don't know but you almost want to like play it safe and just be like okay like yeah that was
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great well I think look obviously there's a right way and a wrong way to go about expressing you
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know, uh, like you, you can go about it in a way and looks, maybe a guy's just insecure
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And even if you, uh, are as diplomatic as possible in your explanation, he's still going
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But I mean, is that really the kind of guy you want to be with?
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But, um, ultimately faking orgasm super, you shouldn't do it.
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unhealthy it's bad communicate it's bad communication it's like then okay you're
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habitually but then you're what you're setting yourself up for down the road assuming i'm
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assuming if you're faking an orgasm this is a guy you want to keep seeing right um eventually like
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you're gonna have to keep that going indefinitely um so there's going to be a point down the road
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where you're like unless you're just indefinitely gonna keep faking orgasms and never coming
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you're going to have to hit at one point or the other you're going to have to hit hit his ego
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at some point so it's like why even start just make it from the get-go just tell the guy what
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you like that's what i said i feel like it's as you get older you get the more confidence but
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when you're younger you're like you especially as a female like you don't have that confidence
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to sit there like i'm talking like 18 19 years old you're not going to sit there and tell that
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person that you're intimate with especially one of your first few partners like hey like that
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didn't feel good that didn't get that didn't get me there like you're just you're not going to have
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that kind of boldness it's a very vulnerable place well when you're young you don't really know what
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you yeah like when you're when you're that young you don't really know women i'm telling you they
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don't, I will tell you 100% sex in my twenties compared to sex. Now it's two different animals.
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Like it's, it's very different. I mean, the orgasm response between women is very, is varied,
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very varied. So, I mean, you can have a woman in her mid twenties, thirties who has significant
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difficulty climaxing and you can have an 18, 19, 20 year old woman who's like multi-orgasmic and
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squirts and does all this shit. So, I mean, it's just, there's a physiological component
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that I don't think you can necessarily ignore. Um, but, uh, yeah, faking orgasms, super retarded,
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terrible communication, super retarded. You shouldn't do it. Um, I don't think it takes
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that even for an, uh, inexperienced, uh, well I would, why would an inexperienced woman,
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like it seems like it would be more of an act to fake an orgasm then don't do it
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no i was just like no because like you know when you're at least in my experience when i was younger
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it's like you also don't like for me in my mindset i didn't know if it was me or if it was him
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because like there are some women who like it's hard for them to get there like true and like
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sometimes they can't so it's like i'm not gonna sit here and tell him it's him if i don't know
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maybe it's not so like i'm just gonna make this a good experience for him at least you know because
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i'm also like if he comes it's a good experience right but some men also get satisfaction off of
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sure yes well yes i agree it is it is satisfying to the man for the woman they ask you like did
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you come and you're like but i lose attraction for you if they can't get you there that's why
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you have to tell them how to get you there but again sometimes it may not be them if you can't
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get a woman off you'll it's better if you can get her off like it makes the sex better um and of
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course as the man you should also be considerate of your partner's pleasure and enjoyment but it
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is the case that for some women uh even they can't even bring themselves to climax some women
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even through masturbation even using toys um so again the the physiological response is is varied
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and it's different between some women um but uh i think if if it is the case that that the woman
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like it's just hard to make her come i don't think that the like it yeah it's better if she could
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come if she could come easily if she could have multiples if she's fucking doing exorcism
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freaking out when she's coming or whatever i guess that's better but like i the this idea that a man
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would be dissatisfied in a relationship with a woman who has like extreme difficulty climaxing
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like regardless of course it's optimal for her to be able to come but if she doesn't i think men
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can still love a woman who has difficulty coming i don't know i'm i don't think it's completely
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necessary and it's it's also not necessary to have children so a man's orgasm is necessary
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to have children a woman's is not now just to be clear i'm not i think a woman's pleasure is
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important and ideally she comes before you as many times as she can but it's not a necessary
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component of reproduction you disagree no i agree it's not necessary i just don't i think
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uh if you can get your woman off i think as a man you would eventually lose some attraction to her
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i think it depends like if other men have made her come perhaps if she's just like a really
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difficult rubik's cube her clits i don't know she's a fucking she's a difficult case she's a
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difficult patient uh then i mean it it would it is what it is some women can't some women can't
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come period some women just can't come so i mean it's better if she comes it's way better if she
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it's better if she's multi-orgasmic and her pussy is like every 10 seconds she's orgasm orgasm like
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that's better but i don't think it would prevent a man from being satisfied in a relationship
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with a woman who just physiologically had either extreme difficulty climaxing or just couldn't do
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it i think she could find love i think she can find a boyfriend and a husband i mean it's still
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pussy pussies like pizza like i had dominoes yesterday regrettably i was just hungry i needed
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some food and it was the only thing open and i gotta tell i've sometimes domino's is good but
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this particular whoever made it it was fucking pretty bad but it was still pizza it's hard to
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fuck up pizza it was still i mean i ate the thing you know pussies like the reflection
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like whereas dick i mean dick can be expired you know like you don't even want the dick
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but like unless the pussy i mean smells bad or something like you can't turn down pussies what
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i'm saying like there's no such thing really as bad pussy like it you have to go out of your way
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mason turns it down well i guess what i'm saying let me most pussy how about this wait wait let me
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change it let me change it up let me none of it's good enough for me most pussy most pussy
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there's minimal friction let's just say there's it's like a cavernous cavernous yeah cave like a
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cave cave-esque yeah wow yeah so i mean i don't know it's honestly though i would say that's rare
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i'll be honest it's did these women have children before no oh my oh wow yeah and i gotta be honest
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it was a bit of an issue wow wow yeah it was a bit of an issue and uh
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it's super rare though like most women like most like i want i don't know i'm not gonna
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review my body count but like most women pussy like there's no issues there what do you say
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you you i'm there's nothing they can do really it's they're just fucked basically oh wow yeah
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what am i supposed to say sorry dear your pussy's too loose felt nothing
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no you would never say that you just got to resort to oral sex or anal i guess
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poor mason poor mason earmuffs mason earmuffs his poor that's why i stick to anal sex
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yeah no but it's rare the loose weight chat loose pussy is rare brian has really bad takes on pussy
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what the fuck is brian a two-incher what the no i said hey first off
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no i don't know who that was first off i think that it's super rare like most women and it's
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totally fine uh but there are there come on chat some somebody in the chat
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oh yeah that reminds me does anybody want a popsicle you don't want a popsicle anybody okay
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i'm straight yeah i'm good uh wait where was i going with that no chat chat like most pussies
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great on a cavern but sometimes like rarely you think like let's be honest it's i don't know what
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the breakdown is maybe it's like three percent i think it might be two to three percent of women
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might have the cavernous vagina uh i'm sorry the cavernous cavernous vagina it's like the grand
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canyon it's crazy uh okay uh molly read this for me please
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into the mic we call it throwing a hot dog down a hallway yep throwing the hot dog down the hallway
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uh so i don't know i don't know i don't know where i was going with that uh we're why should
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men pay on dates that's where we you guys bring it to you guys bring it to crazy places why should
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men pay goodness gracious well i think to touch on what you had said about like you know you want
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to see certain traits which i was going to touch on it was that it's a way of almost like a man
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showing that he's able to lead and then also women showing that she's able to be led in a way like
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if a man is planning the date he's paying for it but but hold on couldn't i lead like this
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get your wallet out you're paying for the date that's leading right that's not leading that's
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leading no go get your purse go get your pink credit card out and pay for the date that would
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be me i'm telling her what to do that's not that's leading that's a gangster by the way you know what
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i did one time that's gangster no i was having dinner at a bar and there was a guy that came up
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to me and he sat next to me and was like oh what are you drinking oh here blah blah blah whatever
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and then the check came he's like oh you gotta split it he's like don't split it i put it i'll
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pay for you baby don't worry and i left don't worry i got you baby you're we're splitting this
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don't worry i got you wow very sassy yeah they put in a cup i wasn't into him i was expecting
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to pay but because he said that to the waitress oh you paid for the whole thing i was like don't
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worry baby i got you here good for him he didn't waste money on a girl who wasn't interested i mean
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it works out but uh i don't know ultimately uh i don't know we're you mentioned alpha before and
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i don't really like the alpha beta thing it's just the to get to the point to the be a descriptor
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yeah i get it well what's more alpha a guy telling his first date take out your credit card you're
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paying for this or the guy who's like hold on um oh i'm i'm gonna pay for the date like come on
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bro it's obviously the it's obviously more alpha for the guy to be like you got this right no that's
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very douchebag that is not alpha it's so alpha male that is so douche you have like a flat bill
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hat with the sticker but anyways why should men pay i'll be honest with you i i like um i like to
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be pursued back in the day and i want a man to want to go out with me and want to go out and
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have dinner and um it is 100 based on um my beliefs and how i feel about it it it's yeah i
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could pay a million times over and after you date for a while absolutely grab the check but i want
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to be taken out and pursued old school way and if a man looked at me and was like bitch by my
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dinner i'd be like deuces because that's not what i want so okay going back to the questionnaire
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men should pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be chivalrous husband or i
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even suppose boyfriend should be willing to die protecting you take the bullet uh to which all
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of you agree if we can say men should do all these things what should women do
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uh hold the fort down what does that mean mean being the cook clean all of it but help make your
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life better while you go to work and go to war and slay all of the dragons whatever makes your
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life better if you want to come home to um i just need my loafers there or i just i need the bed to
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be made every night fine i'll made it what do you know what my husband does he goes to work i do
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everything else i take care of him i think it's more just like the overall support system in
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general not outside like not just the household but like if whatever his dream is for us for our
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family i should be doing whatever it takes to help us achieve that dream whatever way he needs
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whether it's in the household whether it's you know helping him within his business or whether
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it's like you should be his support you should be his rib 100 i mean women should just they should
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take care of everything at home the cooking the cleaning taking care of kids men are supposed to
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work and provide and protect meanwhile everything in the home like we're we're caretakers so that's
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that's a woman's job okay uh so what okay so those are some of the things but it seems the burden of
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should seems very front loaded on men whereas like all these things you described like maybe
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when you move in with a woman she'll do those things but before that women typically aren't
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going to be cooking cleaning you're like if you don't live together most women are not going to
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be cleaning the guy's house most women are not going to be like cook maybe cooking is a bit on
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the fence uh they're not going to be cleaning they're not going to be doing folding laundry
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they're not typically going to be doing those things unless they're living together which can
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be months or like years down the road. I guess I'm looking for when Mason was talking about like
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the women being virtuous, I would say if men should be all those things, should women be
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virtuous? Should women be virgins? I don't think that that translates into like virginity per se
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versus other traits. Like if, okay, yeah, if a man should pay for the dates and set, then yeah,
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you should support him in that way i'm out you should support him paying for the date like no
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like support him as his woman like for instance like the guy i'm dealing with i am a very nurtured
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caretaker person we're not in a relationship right we don't live together like you were saying
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most women do you clean his house um i don't clean his house because he i don't like i don't really
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but i make his meal prep because he works a lot so i know that like he doesn't have time to do
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that so like i make his meal prep for him and i make sure i drop it off to him when he needs it
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so i can make sure he's fed when he has free time on the weekends if i know he's tired after working
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i'm not gonna you know make him say hey let's go out but like the other day i made him come to my
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house i cooked him dinner we took a bath like we you know i'm going to nourish and nurture him
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in those moments as well like well okay is it wrong for a man to say a woman should be a virgin
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no however in society back in the day the average age of marriage was 18 years old
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and now we have women before graduating from high school who have fucked 10 men
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that's real that is also true uh no no correct i mean
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because my mom got married when she was 17 yeah well i mean so i guess like to
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paint Brian's picture that men paying for the first date has not changed since that time however
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what has definitely changed is women being virgins by that first date that first ever date
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that standard has always been held up for men that you must pay for you must pay for that first date
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you must be the one to approach you must have all of these characteristics but women are pretty
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lax with their well the liberal women don't have a leg to stand on for that one agreed but even the
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liberal women can still sit back wait for men to take all the initiative all the burden all that
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stuff they men still have to lead men still have to be if you want to be a feminist and be a liberal
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then you do your 50 yeah but i mean feminism isn't is like completely contradictory because
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like even if you're a feminist even if you say 50 50 like women still sit back women are very
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passive when it comes to dating women generally speaking like don't shoot their shot they don't
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take initiative they don't carry the conversational burden they're not making the first move they're
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not going for the first kiss they're not moving things forward uh physically generally speaking
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and so all that burden falls on to men these are all potential rejection points for men uh men need
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to pay for dates even liberal women will have an expectation not all liberal women but a good
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amount of liberal women still want men to pay for dates and then they have this sometimes they'll
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even rationalize it in this really backwards way of like well uh because of the wage gap and because
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of like my other liberal feminist talking points because of the patriarchy men have like this
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privileged position and power in the wage gap they make more money so therefore they should
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pay for dates and it's all very retarded and uh woke and also retarded i already said that but
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A little bit of redundancy, but ultimately, I don't know.
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It seems like we're allowed to say men should, but in terms of the ways in which we should say women should, women really aren't doing that.
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I don't think women are doing their should.
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Women are not holding up their end of the should deal.
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yeah like it's so easy to say in our society there's no backlash to saying men should pay
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first dates but there is a lot of backlash for saying women should be chased to deserve a first
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date or even just like even if that's too much of a an ask for a woman to be a virgin women should
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be submissive that's too much too much that's not appropriate it should be 50 50 but only in the
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ways that benefit women i don't know no it's a hundred a hundred i feel like that's more of that
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like feministic mindset though of like um when you're talking about oh women should be submissive
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they don't want to be submissive that is like that like i don't need no man type of mindset
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where like someone who's more traditional which i feel like a lot of us are is that like i have
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no problem submitting to my man like i just also want that you provide me the space to be submissive
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like you're saying like if you're making me go work full time and you're working full time like
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i'm not always going to feel like i can be in my software i can be feminine i can be so you have to
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create that space for your woman to feel safe enough to do that too yeah but would this fly
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in the other direction if a man were to say well i'm masculine but only when the woman has created
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a safe space for me a woman does have to create that space for you to yes well i have to create
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that i'm i'm no longer gonna pay for my wife because she's not being very feminine no it's
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more like no it's communication no no no what i'm saying is what i'm saying is like this this cope
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about oh well I'll be feminine when the man is masculine I'll be feminine when the guy has
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created the safe space and comfort for me but I as the woman am the arbiter of when that safe space
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has been fully manifested and created whereas like you women would not tolerate a guy who's like
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acting feminine but he's like look once I feel comfortable with you and once you've you as the
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woman have created the safe space for me then i'm going to be masculine then i'm going to be a
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leader you'd be like bro you're a fucking bitch what what are you talking about creating that
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space doesn't mean like oh it's all this time that has to pass like creating those spaces can
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be moment by moment for instance like if we're going on a date and you're planning it now you've
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created a space for me to follow your lead to be submissive in that way and same way for a man
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it's like i'm creating if i my man can't go to work all day and then he comes home and i'm like
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you need to clean and then because now i'm not creating that safe space for him to be in his
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masculinity either this idea that simply by virtue of the man uh initiating and paying for the first
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date that that has thus created the space it's for women it's a step it's a i can't tell you the
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amount of women who go on dates and the man pays for the date and he does everything right and
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she's still a contentious vexatious quarrelsome nagging fucking pain in the ass masculine woman
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like me paying for the date doesn't magically make a woman feminine his judgment is bad and
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he didn't bet her correctly well that's secondary this idea that simply by virtue of paying for the
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date that this somehow forces women into femininity is complete no that's not the case
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No, it doesn't force them into it, but someone who is the maturity and the outlook of, like, looking for that, like, date to marry, like, looking for their person, that is going to open that space for them.
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But someone who's just looking to take and get a quick meal or have a quick, yeah, they're not going to appreciate it.
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It's just going to be exactly what you're saying.
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All right, we're going to move on to a different topic here.
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but i still um i don't know maybe we could do a thing where if the woman has a body count of more
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than three then she revokes her right to the man paying for the first date what do you guys think
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about that no still should pay what about we got a sex worker here i've previously said on podcasts
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maybe you'll weigh in on this that i don't believe uh women who do only fans or women who are sex
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workers uh deserve chivalry deserve traditional treatment now you might still get it men definitely
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still will pay for dates and do all that shit for sex workers women who are sex workers can still
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get that treatment i don't think they deserve it though and just also let me caveat i don't think
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women who are involved in that kind of work i don't think they should be mistreated they should
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still be treated with respect if a man opts to perhaps mistakenly date her no offense
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but they don't deserve the tradition they don't deserve the chivalry because they're not
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traditional women what do you think about that i mean i definitely think that when you are putting
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yourself in that environment where you are like giving your body in exchange for something to
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like multiple different men like you are you can't really expect a man to have that same kind of like
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respect and chivalry for you because like you're he knows like you're just giving it
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to everybody and it's in the open it's not like what do you think because you're the sex worker
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so i agree with you i mean i wouldn't um meet someone and expect them to like treat me like
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a virgin like I feel like I couldn't talk to you and be like well you you don't want to date me
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like that that would be crazy you know okay what do you guys think um fair proposition that if a
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woman is a sex worker uh the man doesn't have to pay for the date or should he still pay for the
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it i don't know what that world looks like but i would imagine only uh that maybe they're dating
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like people that are also maybe in some sort of related field maybe also male escorts maybe
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there's not enough there wouldn't be enough male only fans creators or male prostitutes or male
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sex workers to be able to match up with the female or just men that have a massive high
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body count that that's not that important to them to seek in a female partner i'll make the
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question super simple does a girl who does only fans do you think she deserves uh when she's
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dating should the guy pay for her dates it depends on who that man is and how he values her
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he wants to take okay i acknowledge that there are men who will take only fans girls out on dates
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and those men will pay for those dates that's not in dispute the only fans girls can still get men
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to pay for dates the question is is do they deserve that
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i i don't know i don't know i i don't i don't have an educated so if it's okay so right now
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would you say if i took a girl out i'm a virgin if i took a girl out and i didn't pay for her
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first for the first date would that be wrong for for me for me no no no it's a regular
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lady a regular lady yes uh-huh and you didn't i didn't pay for the date would that be wrong it
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doesn't align with the values that you have so does it would it be wrong okay yes for you so
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would it be wrong if i did the same thing with a sex worker yes because that is not your value
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system so what are you doing taking one out so that's the question brian's asking so i should
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still provide traditional values to a person who is very much not traditional
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that's a gray area i don't know yeah well i mean according to what you just said yeah i
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you're abandoning your traditional values so go on a date with her
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okay so don't take her out on a date yeah i mean i wouldn't she's not your girl you know so yeah
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but okay you get to pass a law you get to pass a law that determines who pays for dates in what
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scenarios now when you're passing the law uh let's go ahead and grant that if the man
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and the woman neither of them are sex workers i assume you would pass some sort of law that the
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man should have to pay for the date but in the situation in the situation of a woman being a
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sex worker would you pass the law under that circumstance that the man should pay for the date
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uh legally speaking no it is 50 whoever whoever wants to pay for it it's up for debate
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that doesn't answer the question there is no law for that the law it's a hypothetical you're the
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i know and as a dictator i would say there is no law as to who pays it is up to those people going
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out okay so are you saying that but it's granted in the hypothetical that you would
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you are passing the law but you get to make a determination as to which couplings correct so
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the couplings would be traditional traditional the man pays the coupling would be traditional man
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and sex worker he doesn't have to pay he does not have to pay but is highly encouraged to
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because you need to do your own vetting figure it out
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he's go to man school and figure out how to vet a woman i don't know
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okay that's don't take her out if she's not okay yes men should probably not date sex workers like
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yes but that's a separate conversation yes um like okay that's a separate conversation though
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um okay uh let's see here where am i gonna take this um maybe there's a better example i could
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views than like dictator, like passing a law and who has to pay. But, um, uh, okay here,
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we're going to do, let's see here. Uh, Oh, Ooh, this is a good question. Wait. Um,
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I guess I'll do that a little later actually but ultimately though
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I don't know I think if I have to die for a woman
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because i don't know man um it's like i gotta give my life for a woman who's like got a body
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count of like 50 and then like within she'll probably be back on tinder at my funeral
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she'll be getting dicked down within two weeks and i gotta die for her like how about this can
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i ask you guys a question hypothetical scenario you have precognition have you seen minority
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report with tom cruise where he could like tell when crimes like if a crime was about to happen
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or some shit um you have precognition that a man is married to a woman well you don't have
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precognition of that but in the scenario the man is married to the woman and you know that within
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a month of him dying she's going to be fucking another guy
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now you have some some power to like tell him hey bro she's gonna fuck a guy right afterwards
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like maybe don't die for um do you think he should not die for her if she would
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fuck another dude within a month yeah yeah i wait yes sir no he shouldn't he shouldn't die
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no no he shouldn't no he shouldn't no okay so how long though three months like if she
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fucks three months after he dies years no it would how long is the relationship is it like
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they have kids have a family all that they've been together well i mean he's still making the
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ultimate sacrifice regardless of how long they've been together but let's say i mean respectively i
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feel like a year after you're like someone passes you know like for instance like with my ex like
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it took me eight months from just a breakup of a girlfriend boyfriend relationship to even be open
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to go on a date with someone you know so it's like if you're talking about like a marriage and your
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husband just died like I couldn't even imagine dating let alone but like if you had to put a
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timeline I feel like a year is a process a good process of grief but how about you've been together
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with a girl for for for 10 years now how long how soon and and there's a scenario where you have to
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die protecting her how soon can she fuck a new guy where you say he shouldn't be willing to give his
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life for her how soon yeah so does that make sense i don't know i i would probably be so traumatized
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that I that would be so long before I could even well but like so like let's say a woman okay here
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maybe this will simplify things a woman waits one year before fucking a new guy
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should the guy who's been dating her for 10 years right so one year one year is a good
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amount of time right kind of should he give his life for a woman that one year later she'd be
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fucking another guy no no okay what about three years is that acceptable like okay it's been three
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years that's a long time to grieve and get over the trauma i am not dying for a woman who is
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10 years she has to wait a fucking decade and even then i still like in the grave i'm pissed off
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like bitch you should have been the fucking widow like if something happened and he died for me i
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don't you want him to be happy i you want him to i don't think i could be in another woman's
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vagina really i will come back and no i'm just kidding um i couldn't move on fast like i mean
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it would be i don't even know if i ever could that would be so devastating i don't think a man
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the i honestly here's the only scenario a man should die for a woman she was a virgin when
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they met okay she's pregnant she was a virgin she was a virgin and if he dies she never touches
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another man again that is the only scenario in which a man should die for no i'm telling you
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Like, these girls have an expectation, I gotta die for you
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You need to give me perma for me to be perma
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If I'm gonna be perma dead, you gotta be perma sexless
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What if you have children and there's a good man that wants to take care of her and her children?
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i i actually did have this conversation nope i had this conversation with my ex-husband
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and i said if i died and something happened to me i would love for you to have the companionship
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of another woman and i know you would do a good vetting process yeah and i know she would be
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wonderful to you and the children i i well i'm fine like for me i would probably if my
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life of 10 years died you know i'll give it a couple weeks but what i did say is in this scenario
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if i'm in a coma if i'm on a coma do not ever pull the plug i will come back okay well look
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ultimately though i don't know she has to be a virgin if if a woman wants me to die for her
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she has to be a virgin when we meet and then uh she can i have to know somehow i don't know how
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i would ever guarantee this she cannot fuck another man ever ever it's over she's struggling
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Another man wants to love her and take care of her.
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The memory of me should supersede her base desire.
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I actually have a friend whose husband passed away.
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and she's wonderful and in when he was dying he said i would like you for you to move on but
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never forget me always talk about me to our daughters that was his last i'm sorry i just i
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if she won't find someone who will i just have very you know i just want that woman who like
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i'm just the final one you know even again even if we only dated for like a month or something
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keep on she can't fuck any more people like i don't care i could like have after i break up
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with a girl i could have been like with three other women after i broke up with her but she
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can't date anyone after me you're delusional that's a very delulu yeah she's no i feel like
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she's got to be perma stuck to me i'm kidding on that one i'm kidding that one's a bit ridiculous
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but i will i'm not lying i don't think i should have to die for uh a woman who during her time
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on earth after my death would allow another man to put his penis in her thankfully the odds are
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in your favor that's probably not going to happen what's not going to happen uh that you're going
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to have to die for a woman that dramatically i will say sure it's unlikely you're saying like
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oh like if you in that situation where it's like you had to die for her i do feel like you know
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what like in a woman's place it's the least you could do to just like he gave you life basically
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like he let you're the reason you get to walk this earth the least you could do is not fuck
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is not any other men while you're talking regular life like you died of natural causes like in i
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think after some time you grieving like you should be able to like move on but i also feel like it
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wait hold on uh by the way tiffany any uh gifted 20 and over i don't think i told you this not
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your fault uh 20 and over gifted leave them so i can shout them out yo natalia thank you for the
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gifted 50 whatever memberships uh natalia guys w's in the chat for natalia what a fucking
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legend natalia is thank you natalia love you thank you natalia thank you oh my god oh wait
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i can do the gay voice that's the one oh my god molly your little butterfly tattoo is so cute
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you do a good game that was frightening that's right oh my god she's got braces too i just
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noticed oh my god the list is real just like and the little pretty poison you are so pretty oh my
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on you sound gay she's giving me nothing molly gives me nothing okay uh all right next topic
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let me blast through this i'm gonna wrap the show early tonight all right we got mason here
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your virginity is still intact mason you can hide it natalia thank you very much natalia thank you
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thank you natalia thank you that was so bad i my trump impression is not the best uh i think yeah
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maybe uh okay uh i did okay we already talked about the mason stuff uh yeah uh we got jade
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massage therapist uh you have jade you you have is it two fathers or how many you have how many
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kids oh i have my nephew that i've raised oh you don't have kids i'm sorry i got my notes mixed up
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um you oh you've got disagreement some of his opinions on the value of a woman past a certain
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age uh so what are my opinions what have i said i'm trying to remember now the value of a woman
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past a certain age oh i think it was um kind of like when you have mentioned before about like um
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like when as a woman gets older she loses her value like because of one like i think you've
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said before about like um her ability to not have children anymore like you know she just
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loses her values age but then at the same time you've like talked about like women getting like
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you know work done and this and that but women are getting work done to present themselves as
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younger so they feel like they have more value because you've said that like as women get older
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they lose their value what does that have to do with the work done thing though well first off
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i haven't said that you did earlier you were when you were saying about like you would never pay for
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um like your girl to get work done like her botox and this and that what i'm saying that i've never
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said is i've never said that women lose their value as they age i've never i've not so maybe
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it wasn't well that's not what i've said i've never said that um what i can say so um just to
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clear let me preface this by saying that regardless of your age whether you're young or you're old
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all people have equal whether you're a man or woman all people have equal inherent value equal
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moral value now perhaps you've heard me say something like when it comes to your value on
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the dating landscape in the dating marketplace then yes some people have more value than others
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For example, I'm a chubby, overweight 36-year-old.
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I think a guy who's in his mid-20s, who's a professional athlete, who makes way more money than I do, who's incredibly fit and good-looking and tall, he would be assessed as having more value by women.
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But so there's not a cope that's going on on my end.
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There are things that can raise your value, lower your value, not as a human being.
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Again, we have equal value as human beings, but the value proposition to the opposite
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sex when selecting for a partner, a husband, a wife, whatever it is, people can have varying
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So like an obese woman, for example, probably, generally speaking, has a lower value proposition
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than a woman who has a healthy BMI, uh, and a woman who's 70 has lower, a lower value proposition
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on the dating marketplace than a 25 year old supermodel. Like more men are going to want to
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date the 25 year old supermodel than the 70 year old woman. Now, even going beyond just more extremes,
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I believe a 20 year old woman who's beautiful, uh, has a higher value proposition than a 40 year old
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woman who's beautiful. Yeah. I can agree with that when you're talking dating stance. Yeah.
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Right. Yeah. So it's not about like, it's not about saying that a woman as a human has less
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value. It's purely like, just, it's just objectively true that say like a woman who's
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20, who's good looking versus like almost all things being equal, a good looking woman at 20
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versus a good looking woman at 40, more men are going to gravitate towards the 20 year old
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across almost like most age demographics uh just because like let's say that's men who want to have
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children to be look women at 40 can still get pregnant but it's i mean it it it's harder
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greater likelihood of miscarriage birth defects etc etc men have their own potential complications
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as they age too but not to the degree that women do so i don't know if that explains it or if you
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have any pushback or no so would you agree though that generally speaking as people by the way i
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want to make something clear i also think that as men age they also lose some of their value
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proposition in excuse me but i'm tripping over my tongue here in a bit different of a timeline
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than women but like i generally generally think that um like there is a bit of a cope i find in
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some people saying oh well a man peaks in his 40s i'm like well you take like a really attractive
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guy at 25 and put him at 40 i still think like the hot 20 year olds would prefer to date the
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like him at 25 than him at 40 yeah so i think there's some cope there but i do think men have
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a bit more of a, a little bit more of a runway timeline. Men have a longer runway when it comes
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to, um, being, I guess they're attraction, uh, attraction assessment. But I do think like also
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some, some men can age terribly. And, uh, so, I mean, there's all kinds of factors, but, uh,
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yeah, generally speaking, I think it goes, it's, I think it's the both for both men and women.
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And I think as men age, your value can decrease.
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But there are, like, there are, there's intersections here.
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So I think that, like, if a man at 20 was broke, but then, like, when he becomes 30, he's making millions of dollars a year.
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He's, and sometimes often resources accrue with age, right?
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he's increased his value proposition so in that instance you might argue that he
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you know when he's 30 he he's more valuable so to speak no i can agree with that and a lot of
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guys have the experience of when they were 20 they wouldn't get any play but as they got older
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they they got more uh their options increased yeah for sure
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that's it okay um let me see if there was anything else in terms of your disagreements then
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um but yeah generally i would say generally speaking uh men find younger women more physically
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attractive they find them more appealing as partners now can they get them a lot of the
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time. No, like I would argue your average 35 year old guy doesn't have the requisite, uh,
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attractiveness to get like a hot 20 year old, but will they still think that 20 year old women are
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more attractive than 30 year old women? Yes, but they can't fuck them. So they can't get them.
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They can't. So it's like, uh, they have to, beggars can't be choosers, you know? Um, uh,
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uh but yeah um you also disagree with how many bodies she has like and that mattering i guess
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well that was like kind of like with the instance we talked about earlier where it's like um when
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you were saying should someone like a man who has a high body count like kind of like judge a woman
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who also has a high body count that's more where that yeah that's fine but i think that's fine yeah
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um well i guess uh speaking of body count uh what's your body count
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eight four i don't disclose the information you want to do a range like a ballpark
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it's a respectable number less than 10 um it's a respectable number more than 10
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you kissed him it was after nice oh wow okay you did kiss him though yeah it's well it's the guy
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i'm currently seeing oh my gosh what crazy yeah we were walking um the ocean side pier and we
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were just like chilling all of a sudden he just like let go of my hand and walked ahead and i was
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like oh like shit i think he's mad at me or something and he just sprinted towards the
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bathroom and then i finally caught up to him but and he was like yeah i projectile shit it all
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over the bathroom i was like well i guess i guess that's kind of like a girl in his very so he had
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ibs at the time yeah i mean shit i mean that's a that's a good girl though like you did something
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embarrassing on the first date and she still stuck it out stuck it out you know so good good for him
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I guess uh you said why uh why men aren't men anymore oh that yeah like why men aren't men
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anymore as far as like why men do fall more into like the femininity of like um the gender roles
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pretty much like men at least a lot of the men that I've encountered like in my environment is
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I know you don't like the word beta but like they have that aspect of like they would rather be the
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one that's chaste they would rather be the one that's just like you know catered to and that
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they don't like very low effort and then expect immense effort from a woman rather than give and
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take give and take i love that it's a better dynamic i think it's a better dynamic to be
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honest now look i i've i've dated a lot of women i've shot my shot i most of the women i've dated
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i've shot my shot but uh i think it's better for the woman to be the simp it's way better for the
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woman to be the sim now my belief though my belief i think the woman should i think the well one if
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the woman likes you it depends the i mean it depends on the context here if the woman likes
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you and you don't even know she exists like let's say she's a fan of yours like you have a toxic
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podcast and she watches your show and you have no fucking idea who she is how am i supposed to be
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the traditional man i don't know who the woman is who likes me she has to shoot her shot otherwise
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how the fuck am i gonna ever well i don't even mean like shooting the shot because i'm not opposed
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to like a woman like addressing a man and being like yeah like i'm interested but i just mean
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more of like when you are now in the aspect of dating and putting in no effort and expecting
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a hundred percent from you but not giving you that same hundred percent back well i think the
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woman can at least shoot her shot and then you take on the reins from there you're you lead the
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way from there that's been my experience if a girl shoots her shot with me uh i'll take on the reins
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i'll move things forward although it is sometimes annoying when like the woman shoots her shot
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and then she has like zero follow-through and it's just like what does follow through to you
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like it's like okay you're shooting your shot and then like i'm kind of all right cool talk talk
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talk blah blah blah great let's meet and then she's like taking like she's she's uh making it
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like a pain in the ass to actually like make that happen or whatever like making it a big
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fucking complication where some women make it seem like completely seamless it's just like
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okay cool i'll come see you boom make it easy um i don't know but uh okay uh but are women women
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you say men aren't men are women women no a lot of women aren't women anymore it's all fucked up
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we should just i don't know let the robots take over ai um what makes someone uh we're gonna skip
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that one why why do men say they want a wholesome woman but only go for insta hose that's what you
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wrote uh so i think men shouldn't be following any women on instagram to be honest uh they
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shouldn't be liking photos they shouldn't be following them uh but you you say that like a
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lot of these guys um they claim they want like wholesome women but they're following these like
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fake titty women on ig and they're being gooners and degenerates is that is this a fair trade as
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representative of the male delegation by the way i don't follow any women on instagram i don't like
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women's photos i don't care um but as representative of all men obviously do you take the following
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trade us men not me but us men we agree to never follow another woman on instagram we agree to
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never uh like a woman's photo on instagram but in exchange for that you women can't have social
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media that's fine i don't do you take the trade okay maybe that's a big ass though what about
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this uh you women can't post revealing photos you can't post thirst traps you can't post bikini
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photos you can't post photos where it's like here's my ass you can't do that shit do you take
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the trade like you're talking about like in general like when you're in a relationship because
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like if i'm involved with somebody i'm never doing that because that's just disrespectful
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i don't do that period i don't know i'd have to look at your guys's instagrams to be honest
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my babies and my kids well there you go then my business
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okay um yeah uh dana you definitely have raised your daughters to be independent and capable of
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taking care of themselves but they do expect a traditional man what does that mean though to be
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independent? I feel like all women and girls should know that they can go out and they can
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take care of themselves, that they can provide for themselves, that they can get a place to live,
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have a car, pay their bills. Because I never want my girls to one day be married and it not turn
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out how it was expected to. Maybe they're abusive. Who knows what can happen? I don't want them to
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ever feel like i can't get out of this bad situation because i don't know how i'm going
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to take care of myself and my kids like i want them to be able to know it's kind of like me
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even though i didn't work when my babies were little if something were to have happened i have
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an education and i have the ability to go earn as much as my husband if i want and i just i really
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my girls are independent but yet they still want quote-unquote the white picket fence
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situation but I think in this day and time you have to raise your daughters to be strong because
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they are just being unleashed into a society that is nothing like traditional if that makes sense
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yeah I mean obviously the question is is like okay what should a woman do
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prior to meeting a guy she's just supposed to be destitute is she supposed to be homeless is she
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just supposed to stay with her parents um i don't think the answer is yes to any of those
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perhaps the staying with parents is fine but i i think there tends to be a component here where
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what is the woman's career ambition? So, and does her career ambition interrupt or
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what's the right word? Does it conflict or cause problems in a relationship she has with the man?
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And does it prevent her from meeting a man? Because I think it's one thing, okay, great.
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You have a nine to five, you have a regular anticipatory schedule. You don't, you're not
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like some boss babe hustler who's like, it's a guy asked you on a date on a Saturday and you're
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busy with your hustle. Then that becomes like, it, it goes from just, she's making money to
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like sort of provide for a base level of comfort in her life to like chasing something beyond
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that creates complications in a relationship. I've definitely encountered situations where I'm like
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trying to like a girl's just so involved in her business or her hustle or whatever where I'm like
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it's hard to make a plan with her I'm trying to date you right you're too busy you as a woman
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you should never be too busy to go on a date if you like the guy like you should never be too busy
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like that so I think there's a balance that women can strike between make having a job that isn't
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like, I don't know, maybe they shouldn't be, um, some like 70 hour per week attorney where it's
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like, hi, I'd like to take you on a date on a Saturday at 7 PM. Oh, sorry. I got, I got a big
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case coming up. I can't go on a date. Not that I don't like you. So there's a balance that I think
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women should strike there when it comes to being independent. Um, if, if like, it's complicated,
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Like you got shit going on and I want to see you on a, on a, you know, a weekend or something.
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And she can't, it's like, okay, well, well, have you ever heard that saying that those
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Yeah, but there's also gen, genuinely, there are genuinely, uh, types of jobs where you
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And so I think those types of jobs maybe are not well suited for, um, someone looking for
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Cause I, I think like if I encounter a woman who let's, and look, sometimes women will
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use the excuse because they're just not that into you, but let's assume that they are into
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you, but they're genuinely busy to the point where it's a frustration to go on a date with
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you or she cancels like she, Oh, something came up and I've got to cancel. Or you could just have
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a nine to five job where you're not going to get blindsided by some bullshit and, uh, prioritize
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meeting up with me. And I'm like, in my mind, I I've had situations where even like a girl who's
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got like a shitty $20 an hour job, I've had, I've had this situation occur. And I'm thinking in my
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head. Okay. You can get any 20, you get five, you can get fired from your job and you can find
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another job that'll pay you $20 an hour. Like that's not some big career loss to get fired
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from a, like a $20 an hour job. But I've literally like, and I look, I'm, I'm not going to brag,
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but like I make good money and it's like, I'm literally my value proposition that I'm offering
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here is if you're with me, you're never going to have to work. And I have women who will cancel a
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date on me because they got called into their twenty dollar an hour job i'm like are you
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fucking retarded if you're with me you never have to work you're gonna cancel my our date
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because you got called into your twenty dollar an hour job okay i see where you're i see where
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your uh your uh fuck what's it called priorities are and it's like i don't know i think it depends
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on what the woman wants i mean obviously if you're in that kind of situation you don't really want
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to date you you know i don't know but um okay let's see uh going to i think molly's notes right
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um wait where was i how did i get there uh i saw you did some content with churdly's molly are you
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um are you poly you and your husband are you poly dating other people or whatever no okay
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never mind i was gonna i saw you did content with chirdleys i was gonna ask if you smashed
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chirdleys but no you're not poly so disregard uh you went on a date with a guy who happened
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to have a girlfriend he told you up front he was looking for polyamorous relationship and
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you agree to also date him while he still dated her oh i actually was when i was you sent me
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those are the first questions and then the second ones i kind of answered it in my second ones
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what i mean by that is uh me personally i think well for example that's my now husband he had a
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girlfriend which i didn't care because if i'm gonna be with someone forever i feel like the guy
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I wanted him to be able to choose like I'm not I'm not a jealous person so I think it's okay that
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a man can explore his options and choose but when it comes down to like being with someone forever
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you only get one person which he chose to be me okay so he was in an open relationship
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yeah oh she the girlfriend didn't quite like having someone else around but so eventually
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they did break up due to that but yeah so you were both dating him at the same time though
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yeah but we were not dating each other me and her no no not not you and her but you were both
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dating your now husband yes okay she got jealous and then she broke up with him um and now wait
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i'm confused wait wait you said you're married but when did you reach out to us i reached out
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to you like this week you said he's the guy you're currently engaged to when did you get married
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we got married like we got together right about when i just had turned 18
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maybe a few months after that so we had been together i don't know when did you get married
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i don't know the exact date but how do you not know you're whoa that's hold on what
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happened huh how would you wait wait no no that's fucking bullshit that's fucking bullshit
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do you want to call him no that's total bullshit who doesn't know the exact date they get married
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that's like your anniversary date well i have i mean you're putting me on the spot so i have
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anxiety about it i can't answer things on the spot but i am very much could you answer when
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your birthday is you don't have to tell me but right but that's a date like how do you not know
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when you're you got married because i don't know the exact date was there was there a wedding
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not really it was kind of just like just go to the courthouse and well it was in vegas i i honestly
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don't know the date but i like i told you we were so wait you got legally married or you had just
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like a ceremony with an elvis legally married okay um i don't know why i'm being questioned
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for if i'm i don't that's an well because in your messages to us you said you were engaged
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uh-huh and you messaged us a week ago so did you get married in the past week no so then why did
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a week ago you said you were engaged but i i don't know if you realize but i also messed up
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in my other message by saying that I was poly which I'm not when did you say you were poly
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like you just said if you read my first messages they're a little bit different than my second
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group of messages I said that I said yes to being in a poly amorous relationship
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but then I clarified that because when I don't know when I was doing the questions I was
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super excited wasn't thinking but upon answering the second questions you gave me there's way more
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detail and the answers are correct okay so then you were mistaken in your messaging then i guess
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um but you said currently engaged to yes but yeah we're married legally legally married yes we've
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been married for over a year and i mean i'm about to turn 20 we got married like within three or
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four months of being okay um you said it was controversial it's controversial you believe
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women are uh are meant to serve men and men should be treated like what well wait wait
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did you who wrote this for you i wrote this men should be treated like what
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i don't know you said these were your own words yes but i don't who wrote this for you i wrote
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that for myself but i don't know men exactly what i wrote you you wrote women are meant to serve men
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and men should be treated like kings okay okay well i could have answered that but i didn't know
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if i would have wrote that anyone could have answered that but that's so like it okay uh
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that's also not controversial to anything we've talked about today i was expecting it to be
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controversial controversial but i don't know maybe ask these women well i was expecting a bunch of
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liberals so that's why i said it would i'll debate you on any of this but um okay so i mean even
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conservative women will have contentions with conservative women will have contentions with
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you about your claim that women are meant to serve men i don't know i think these women might
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disagree with you and they probably do but i believe that you are are women meant to serve
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men not meant to serve this gladly when the dynamic is correct you have my complete submission
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devotion all of it obviously he has to do his part i'm not meaning any random man but my husband yes
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i'm supposed to serve him all right you you also said that men should also be allowed to
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explore their options in dating is that what you're talking about like date multiple women
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multiple women yes before so like i explained the situation with my boyfriend at the time
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um i believe guys should be able to date multiple girls in the beginning before they
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decide to settle down with someone so they can see if that's the right fit for them
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so re-explain your point again i'm trying to i'm trying to wrap my head around this
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it's very different from probably what you would agree with but um i just believe that if a guy's
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gonna dedicate his life to being with someone to take care of her forever to like like provide
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protect that he has the right to like have choices he shouldn't just meet me and then i should expect
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him to instantly devote everything to me i there should be a period of like the dating period where
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he still has other options and he chooses the best wife for him you could say yeah well
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So I guess what, like, the issue I think Brian is having is, like, I don't know.
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It seems like there's, like, you're saying certain things, but then, like, you come back and infer other positions.
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Like, it does sound like you might not have written these messages.
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my messages i mean i can probably if i don't i don't know how i wouldn't have written them how
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did i know what that one said before he even said it i mean you you wrote it yeah i wrote it i don't
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know what why i'm being questioned i mean did i are you saying if i wrote ai to answer my questions
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i can't answer basic questions like either an of manager or boyfriend i have an of manager your
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boyfriend well i mean even if you uh even if you did have an of manager you wouldn't a lot of women
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wouldn't admit to it but um or it could just be your husband or fiance or boyfriend or whatever
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but uh you say you find your your republican you're very religious but your line of work
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is against all that i mean we kind of talked about that um you said you're very religious though
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yeah so i do believe in god strongly even though i know what i'm doing isn't in line with that i do
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believe in him and i know what i'm doing is wrong but i do consider myself to be very religious
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i don't know how you so you can believe in god believe in religion or whatever
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um but i don't know if you can take the label very religious yeah like i think when i think
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of someone very religious this is somebody who very much observes the religion yeah like at cost
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at own personal cost i will dedicate my life to this religion yeah and so your your worldly
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uh materialism supersedes um because you would agree that people can struggle financially and
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not turn to sex work yeah right so your desire for material through your sex work
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um is contradictory to religion so you might believe in god so yeah i guess but i don't think
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you're very religious yeah i agree with you there maybe i'm wording it like wrong i don't follow the
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beliefs so if that's what being very religious means then i guess i'm not yeah but i do believe
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in god and everything he says but i don't well you know well you know who else believes in god
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and everything he says the devil believes in god and everything he says but he lives his life
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exactly opposed to it so who is your god because it's probably not the one that you say it is it's
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not the devil do you i'm not saying it's the devil i'm what it sounds like it's saying that
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you are your own god because your desires your life is more important than his commandments
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and his desires for your life because i mean you might be able to say that that's not true
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but your life suggests otherwise do you think god wants you doing sex work no no okay um which
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which just it suggests that you don't actually see god as god you see yourself as god because
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your cares and desires and the thing the struggles that you would have to put up with
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are more important than the things that he puts importance upon.
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I believe that God loves everybody, and I know that what I'm doing is wrong,
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And he is able to understand everything everyone is going through.
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Well, do you think he's going to forgive everybody for everything they've done?
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If you kill someone, but he does say that God forgives everybody.
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I don't know what decides, like, you're going to hell, but God will forgive everyone.
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so I guess maybe the people who are in hell are people who went to hell and they didn't repent
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for their sins before they died I do have a chat coming through here uh blah fest I was told
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recently that beer is full of female hormones I disagreed but later on I drank nine or ten pints
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then suddenly I find myself to be quite obnoxious opinionated and I couldn't drive at all
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hops he's i think he's talking about hops in the beer thank you blah fest appreciate it all right
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um i'll just move it on uh you said your first date led to moving into someone's garage less
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than one week in it brought you to a house to a mansion and then living on the beach
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all within 1.5 years is that your current guy yeah okay um we moved in together basically
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immediately very quick um and then he was working on the business in utah and got things going for
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us and it's always been his dream to come to la so we eventually moved here and that's when he got
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sick okay uh you said modern day women have forgotten what being a woman is feminism has
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destroyed so much uh woke okay agreed um wokeness and men hate excuse me wokeness and men hate
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is out of control and is ruining relationships you also think god should be involved
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so uh what is the man hate that you like disagree with i guess i think now a lot of
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women hate men just because for one it's a trend I think just I hate men because who knows really
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why it's just a trend but I hear men are just cheaters men you hear all the things they do wrong
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and all men are bad like the bear example that the most women would say they'd rather be
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alone with a bear than a man which is just crazy I mean you're there's that's just not logical at
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all so I just feel like men get hate for no reason when I mean if you were to say the same example
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about anybody else like I don't know if I was to if I saw a black person kill someone can I be
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scared of all black people now because they killed someone who was white and now I can hate all of
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them no i can't so the same thing should go for men or anybody yeah i mean agreed um
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you uh support ice also uh okay does anybody anybody else here an ice supporter
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hell no hell no yeah i mean yeah mike's guys please yeah yes yes so hell no why do you say
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hell no because i just don't believe that it's well i don't agree with the way that things have
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been handled with ice with how like current situations i do believe that in a country we need
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like areas of protection absolutely there should be enforcements that are there to protect us but
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going after people who aren't an actual threat to us like our own citizens who do also pay taxes
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and i mean if you want to be real like this shit is stolen land at the end of the day
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so okay that's just what it is okay hold on no i just mean like we are all we all come from
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somewhere like i come from like my ancestry comes from somewhere different your ancestry comes from
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somewhere different so i don't think that is a basis of oh because you were not born here you
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don't belong here okay hold on a couple things um what is stolen land well this land was stolen
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it was not into the mic this land was stolen it was not what land like all of america all of
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america so native america wait wait so native americans prior to the arrival of europeans
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they uh native americans occupied all pieces of land in the united states i mean i cannot
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like say oh they occupied a hundred percent of every percentage of land did native americans
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occupy a lot of land but it's just the fact that you can't murder people take the land and like
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Oh, well, but that's what the natives did, though.
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They did horrendous things to each other, taking each other's land.
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I'm not saying they did, but I'm saying when you're talking about immigration, right, where they, colonizers, whatever, right?
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So does that mean every person that comes after them doesn't belong here either?
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They actually traveled here from, what was it, Asia.
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But how can people say then, like, oh, because you weren't born here, you don't belong here.
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Because people invaded this country as non-citizens, demanding all of the benefits.
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Americans have committed domestic terrorism, murdered innocent people and children, and they were from here.
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We're a society, and when we know better, we do better.
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I'm not saying they don't go to jail, but I'm just saying that you can't say that because someone is from somewhere else that they don't have a right to have a better life.
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So if somebody else's child broke into my house and, let's say, broke a vase of mine,
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should I put them in timeout into one of my bedrooms?
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I should tell their parents, hey, you need to punish this kid because he broke something in my house.
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You're talking about someone who has done wrong.
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I'm not talking about people who are committing crimes.
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So say a neighbor's kid just walks into my house.
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Hey, you haven't done anything wrong yet, so you should just stay.
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If a child just walks into your house, you're not going to be like, get the fuck out of my house.
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You're going to inquire what's going on first.
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You're not going to immediately kick a child out of your house.
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Yeah, you're going to kick a child out of the house.
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So you're in favor of deporting the illegal immigrants who commit crimes.
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shit and stuff like that, then no, I don't
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think that's validity to kick someone out.
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civil violations no i'm talking about crimes yeah but if you're talking about like drug crimes
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murder things like absolutely like that's you don't deserve to be here like i understand
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and like i said like i come from you know an immigrant ancestry and i know i do too certain
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areas right like so that have that's deadly for them so like if i'm thinking parent wise right
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if i have an opportunity legal paper wise or not to give my family a better opportunity
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i'm gonna do that and i'm gonna once i'm there i'm gonna earn every day okay so if you're here
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illegally unless you like overstate a visa or something although this might still come
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this might be some other sort of uh immigration crime uh a legal border crossing into the united
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states is a federal crime that is a crime it's eight usc i just looked it up 1325
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yeah it's a federal crime i'm not saying so they are okay but so my position would be
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even if you're completely law-abiding and you're here illegally deport yes yes yes deport yes
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deport them all yeah are you are you an illegal immigrant no i'm not okay don't worry i'm not
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gonna call ice on you you can i know i would even if look if i had an illegal immigrant on the show
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i would not call ice on them i would not that would be um inappropriate but uh yeah so basically
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anybody who is here illegally who is not a citizen they should be subject to deportation
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i disagree okay so i understand what you were saying this argument of well um who wouldn't
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want a better life so perhaps even myself if i was born in honduras or some shit maybe i maybe
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i would try to get into the country but i wouldn't be surprised if i got deported so i i understand
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the motivation for wanting to live in the united states it's one of the most prosperous nations in
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the world i think it's like i said i'm not disagreeing with like the the the department
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of ice in a whole i'm talking about like currently the state of things how things have been handled
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how people have been treated i do not agree with that i didn't you know i wasn't like okay super
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anti-ice but let me make it things have been i do not well there's a lot of propaganda and
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politics involved in that people were being deported in just a similar way back during
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obama back during biden even like going you can go back back back uh illegally in a problem
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i was socially aware of that then as i am now obama deported a bunch of people they're being
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apprehended sometimes physically sometimes violently and if that's i was then that's wrong
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too no it's not wrong to physically detain somebody the way that it's that i see it okay
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so so hold on let's go ahead just let's cut through the noise let's go ahead and grant
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that ICE has made some mistakes in either like their conduct towards citizens of the United
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States or it's certainly if you're going to be mass deporting people yeah there's going to be
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instances where ICE you know was a bit rough or there might have been brutality or whatever
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and I'm going to agree with you in all provable and true instances of police misconduct or police
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brutality or even unjustified killings which whatever let's go ahead and agree that those
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are all wrong now the central mission of uh ice is to deport illegal immigrants that mission uh
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ought to continue going on despite their perhaps look if you're going to be policing an entire
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nation you're going to be uh enforcing immigration laws police are not perfect they're going to make
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mistakes let's go ahead and grant that yeah um if there were instances of unjust killing or there
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were instances of them being too rough or whatever it is that maybe that maybe that should be
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addressed maybe there can be redress in the court system maybe the specific officers involved in
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that should be reprimanded or fired but the core mission of ICE is to deport illegal immigrants
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you're against that i mean for me it's just like if someone is here and they're not
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posing a danger and they're literally just providing a better life for their family they're
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paying the same tax as i am like so i don't see an issue with them being in this country
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except it is damaged it is a threat you know do you know how it's a threat though
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is because it costs the american taxpayer so much money why do you think the taxes in california are
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so high because a ton of fraud is going on who's the who's the guy um the no it was nick shirley
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yeah yeah nick shirley he did he helped uncover like what is it almost like millions i know
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hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud being occurring in california a lot because of illegal
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immigration because they they can take that money with no tax no tax on it they can have all of
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these benefits that we as americans pay for yeah you know be fantastic and would probably lower
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taxes a lot if all of those illegal immigrants were deported then we'd be able to afford the
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housing that we need all all prices prices for things would drop like rocks it'd be so much
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better so it is very devastating and harmful to american citizens but not every immigrant even
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here in california doesn't pay a legal immigrant doesn't pay taxes i know many and they all pay
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their taxes from their job so that's why i'm saying like i'm not talking just about like
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people who are coming and just taking taking like i'm talking about people who are even though they
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didn't come in the way people like like the right way with the paperwork and all that they are doing
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like the same job that i am they are paying their taxes they are being law-abiding citizens
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they are just got themselves so they should be rewarded for cheating the system that a lot of
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people hold up hold up one second that they're being rewarded with being granted into the country
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while other people are waiting in line to be able to get in the right way why should they why should
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the people who are waiting in the line to get in correctly why are they being punished
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for people who shouldn't even be here okay but then you could also say for some of the people
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who are coming here the right way why is it easier for some certain people from different
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countries to get in here faster than others if they are doing at the same time they have the
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same mission why do like white immigrants get to get in here faster which i have seen on many
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occasions versus people from like central america the caribbean like there's a whole lot of there's
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a whole lot of things that come up behind that so if someone comes in from a country who is like
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okay so say someone tries to come in from afghanistan like there's a lot of things i need
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to be able to look into for someone who's coming from afghanistan like i need to figure out if
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they have any ties any terrorist organizations i got to figure out exactly where they're coming
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from who are their connections in afghanistan because there's a lot of shady stuff that goes
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on there however if someone is trying to come here from a lot of shady stuff that happens in
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every country no not like that if someone's trying to come from england like and they're
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there's a lot less I'm going to have to really dig into.
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I'm going to have to figure out, are they a felon? If they're not
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They're going to be able to maneuver through life easier if you speak the language.
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There are a lot less hurdles that they're going to have to jump over to be able to integrate to our society.
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Okay, but when you go to another country, even to travel, you don't learn the entire language immediately.
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Okay, you may be able to get in those certain ways, but there are certain prejudices that prevent people from getting in the right way.
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So even if we were to grant that there is, and I actually haven't seen any evidence of this, that there's some sort of prejudice that offers white people preferential treatment in legal immigration, legal immigration is completely irrelevant to, for the most part, it's completely irrelevant to the question of illegal immigration.
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so in this case if you want to levy criticisms of the legal immigration system and suggest that
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it's racist you're welcome to do that but that doesn't pertain whatsoever uh as to illegal
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immigration so uh yeah we should deport all the illegal immigrants i don't care if they've
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committed zero crimes or whatever they all have to go well you can go ahead and feel that way but i
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disagree yeah so um i want to get back to the stolen land thing though so again most i'm someone
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in the chat might be able to correct me quite a bit of american land was purchased so you had the
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louisiana purchased we purchased like alaska for example from russia um so much much of the united
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states was actually purchased um the rest of it was um conquered not stolen conquered that's
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different um all countries in europe uh were conquered one weird like the people were conquered
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there there was kings who were conquering each other fighting each other so um you might not
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like it but uh conquest for all territories in the united states is the way that nations have
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been formed pretty much everywhere um so is european is like european countries are they
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stolen land from other white people i guess um but yeah i don't understand the stolen land thing
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well when i say stolen land i'm not talking about like i mean obviously i'm not talking about every
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single piece of land but there were absolutely instances in our history as far as america where
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they were forcefully purchased right when you say like either you're going to sell us this land or
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we're going to kill you well it might be the case however pretty much every other piece of land and
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on earth is under the same circumstance and i do not agree that that's right so every piece of land
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is stolen what is your proposal should there not be borders i'm not saying there shouldn't be
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borders but i'm just saying but it's stolen i don't everything's stolen land you shouldn't be
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able to is mexico stolen land i mean didn't you say every piece is stolen at this i didn't say
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I'm trying to use your logical, I'm trying to use your logic to be able to come to a conclusion.
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My logic is that I feel like everybody has a right to make a life better for themselves if they're not posing like a violent or dangerous threat.
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If someone wants to come here and make a life for themselves with their family and escape danger from where they currently live, I don't have an issue with that.
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You can absolutely feel differently, but I won't agree with that.
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So if a homeless man decides he wants to get out of his terrible situation, he breaks into my home and demands that I take care of him.
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He is posing a threat to you by breaking into your home.
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That is completely different than entering a country.
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They broke into the country, and they're going to take the benefits of our country for themselves.
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I mean, as long as you understand that your conclusion has not come from any logical basis, it's based upon literally how you feel.
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Because logically speaking, we're trying to walk you through it, and you're just refusing to do so.
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I am. You're right. I am refusing to do so, because for me, I just can't see it that way.
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Well, really quick, the stolen land thing is curious to me.
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even if we grant that the land is stolen are you saying then thus there can be no laws as it relates
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to uh borders on that land no it's honestly honestly where the root of all of it comes from
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is i personally just i'm all about love and respect and especially within like my faith like
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i just don't believe in turning yes which i don't believe in turning away people who want better for
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themselves what faith christian yes like i just don't there's nothing in christianity that's
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contrary to love my neighbor is absolutely a part of that well they are so no actually actually
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god in his word prior and it gives a hierarchical hierarchical prioritization of who you're supposed
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to love as a man i'm supposed to love my wife above everybody else i will throw my children
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under a bus before i do so my wife and then it goes children so it's your your entire family
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that's your second prioritization. Your third prioritization is your neighborhood in your city.
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The next prioritization is your country. And at the very bottom is every other country. So I'm
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not going to prioritize people of another country over my own country. And that's described in the
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Bible. Yes, I do love people from other countries. I want to share the word with them, but I care
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about people from my country more than I care about them because it's my duty to protect my
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own countrymen and that's that's explained in the bible why do you think god has established his
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country and his people in in the old testament the jewish people like he prioritizes them above
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everybody else why do you think that's good well i can when you say okay like you prioritize
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like your country over everywhere else like you love your country more than anyone else
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i guess that's where the difference is it's because i don't just see it as like
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if someone wants to come here and make a better life for themselves
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Because I care about the people in my country more than I care about the people in other countries.
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Like, I can't say I care about my country more than others.
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So, the nephew that you are, you're parenting, like, do you care about the people outside of your home the same you care about him?
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where you live and wherever you're born is different than like the care you have for your
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child that's different but there is a prioritization for some and like for you that's
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fine if that if you feel those ways because this country is your priority you put this country
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before anywhere else then okay i understand your mindset but that doesn't change mine i don't feel
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like it's in a wrong thing for someone to come here to do better for their family by whatever
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those means are of like if it's but what if it's going to cost what if what if having these these
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people are it's going to cost the people that you live around is that good do you do you not care
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about those people that you live around it's going to cost them it's going to make it harder for them
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to afford their housing to afford their jobs to afford having a family because you want to be
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nice to the people in that other country that are having a hard time whereas they could just make
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their country better they could just start prioritizing the investment they makes it make
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into their own country instead of breaking into ours i mean i think what you can see is like with
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even with our country just because the people of the country want something to be done a certain
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way or different doesn't mean it's going to happen i think saying them saying oh they should fix their
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country now their government should absolutely do that but they a single whatever like a single
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family that mom whatever son that family is not going to be able to change their country
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But they're going to do whatever it takes to change the future for their family.
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No, that's the opinion of literally every country that's ever existed.
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If it's me, I'm doing whatever it takes to provide better for my family, even if that means going into a country legally.
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Which is prioritizing your family over the people that are trying to break into your country.
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and like why do you like it though like do you like why do you prefer living here over Mexico
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or well it's not that I prefer living here it's just like this is what I know this is like where
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my family is so like that's why I would have it's like not like I'm opposed to living elsewhere
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like I this is what my familiarity is this is there's a lot of opportunity here compared to
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like some other country so like that is a main reason why i'm here is because okay opportunity
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a couple things um stolen land there are portions of the united states that are not stolen land
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okay i don't even buy into the stolen land paradigm but if we find an illegal immigrant
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who hasn't committed any well violent crimes um you're fine with us deporting the violent
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to legal immigrants if someone is here yet and they're killing people hurting people like that
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okay then you're fine okay so let's say it's an illegal immigrant who hasn't done any of that
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shit uh but they're on we apprehend them on a piece of american land that was not stolen can
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we deport them i don't see why we have to deport someone who's right so it has nothing to do with
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If you're not willing to grant that on the pieces of American land that is not stolen, if you're...
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Okay, so you can throw out the stolen land, but that's fine.
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Okay, you have to abandon the stolen land thing.
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Okay, that's fine, but I'm just saying there's no... I still don't see...
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No, but you have to – if your position is, well, even on land that isn't stolen, we still shouldn't deport illegal immigrants, then your argument that we shouldn't deport illegal immigrants because stolen land crumbles.
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There has to be other justification for why we should not deport people.
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Sure, there's other justification besides the stolen land part.
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So then you're still in favor, even if it's not stolen land, that we should not deport them.
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Yeah, I think you should allow people to have the opportunity to make better for themselves.
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In a hypothetical scenario, what percentage of the world population do you think, or you could give me a number like 500 million, 1 billion, 2 billion, 3 billion.
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What percentage of people out there in the world, many of which live in third world nations and in like robust, terrible poverty, how many people in the world would like to live in the United States?
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I would argue 99% of people who live in India would rather live in the United States.
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Do you know how many people live in India?
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I think there's a lot of people that would rather be weird.
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Do you think the United States, let's say, and say, you know what?
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It's not 99% of Indian people want to move to the United States.
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So let's say it's 700 million people, which is about double the population of the United States.
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Do you think the United States has the infrastructure and the capacity to allow in 700 million people?
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I understand what you're saying as far as the numbers.
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of like i understand that but i'm just saying that like for me personally i wouldn't be able
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to say like i'm okay with someone just being deported just because they didn't come through
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the proper channels i have you ever been to have you ever been to india no i haven't so let's say
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we were to import 1 billion indians into the united states do you think the united states
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would continue remaining to look wait do you think the united hold on hold on wait hold on
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But if we were to import one billion Indians, do you think the United States would continue to look like the United States or would it look like India within 20 years?
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I don't, I can't say, I don't, I don't know.
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okay for sure so do we as americans as citizens owe a stewardship to our fellow citizens and to
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our country to uh not like entirely fuck up the great thing that we have going for here which is
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america i like i said i can't personally i know it feels good to let all those immigrants in it
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feels like the right thing to do this is honestly i don't know i shouldn't say it you need to
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prioritize your family so we're not gonna let the immigrants in that's your opinion yeah so
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ultimately but but you say it's not like my opinion is changing what's happening
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the the issue is is that uh you say it doesn't have an impact but even if these people are are
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They're our neighbors, they're fucking dope
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But also, like, the people that are going to leave Mexico to come here, those tend to be the ambitious people.
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Mexico needs the hard workers and all that stuff.
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What you have happening a lot of times is called brain drain.
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So, like, the smart people, they're like, fuck, this country sucks.
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I'm not talking about Mexico, but, like, any country.
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like you you can see people leaving like europe because they're like oh i'd rather live in the
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united states or whatever you get brain drain and uh countries need like they're highly intelligent
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high iq people to like be part of the infrastructure be part of the government etc etc
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so you you if you just allow like the best of the best to come to america i mean it's good
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can be good for us i guess um but like then that creates a a system where those countries can't
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flourish because all the talent comes to the united states so in furtherance of uh the flourishing
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of these other countries uh it's actually doing them harm by just allowing all these people to
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come here legally or illegally and i can uh agree with what you're saying as far as like those
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countries do need those ambitious people to like but at the same time like i said that comes from
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like a government standpoint if they're what is a government but the people it's made of of
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individuals okay but the individuals don't control the government and by the way like
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mexico is has some issues but it's not like i'm not even talking about mexico like there's i'm
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honestly the most like the dangerous places i'm even talking about is more like central america
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like el salvador okay they should stop well first off they should stop in mexico then
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first off if you're seeking asylum you're supposed to stop in the first country that is safe you're
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not supposed to like i'm just going to keep going to like the the more preferable country also
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mexico they speak spanish there so like you can assimilate better to the culture in which you
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actually speak the language we shouldn't be taking on people who can't even speak english
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control where people go to whether they stop in mexico or whether they actually can't control
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where people go to do you know how i'm talking about i can't control we deport them okay but
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guess what i'm not going to agree that like on your standpoint we're just not going to agree so
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it's like it's an agree to disagree well there is your opinion that's your well i'm not starting to
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sit here and force you to change your opinion because of mine it's just your okay hold on the
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point the point of this discussion is not for me to try to force your opinion i know it's i know
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it's not you trying to force your opinion on me the point of this discussion is to show the people
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watching at home that there is one opinion coming from logic, reasoning, prioritizing
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the caring of our families, our communities, and there's an argument being made to prioritize
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the emotional, like, I feel like it would be nice to let people in my country to pursue
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a better life, even though it's going to cost my family, the citizens that live around me
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in this country, even though it's going to make our lives harder, it's going to be harder
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to find housing it's gonna be harder to afford our lives here but it's gonna feel nice to let
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people into our country illegally i want to piggyback off what uh mason was saying there so
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even for the illegal immigrants that they're not committing crimes many of the illegal immigrants
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they're not they're not like violent they're not thugs many of them are just like good people like
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you said who want a better life and that's look if i was born in fucking i don't know venezuela
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and my prospects were shit hey shit maybe i maybe even i would do it maybe i would try like shit
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i think people are self-serving in that sense but i wouldn't be all surprised like if i for
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example me maybe japan's super dope right never been uh but look asian women are hot not gonna
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lie especially the japanese like if i just went to japan and i was like you know what i'm just
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gonna stay here fuck the process i'm just running through these asian women like it's nuts and
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they're just like making weird noises during sex it's crazy bro have you seen japanese porn that
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just wild so anyways just kidding but uh i want to stay in japan because the japanese women they're
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more trad they're they're hotter whatever it is right um they make like weird okay never mind i'm
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being cringe um so i wouldn't be surprised though if like japan deported me like would you be i'm
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sure you don't object to like japan uh deporting people i'm not saying like oh like i'm would i
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would be surprised if they deported you it's just more do you think okay hold on is it justified for
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japan to deport me yeah i'm not saying but hold on i've moved there for a better life i'm just
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trying to fuck their japanese women it's not justified at like you said at the end of the day
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like it's a crime that's being committed yes to come into this country no but you're saying we
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shouldn't deport the illegal immigrants but i'm moving to japan for a better life i need that
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japanese pussy but what i'm saying is just because oh me so horny he love you long time
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Just because I feel that way, like, that's just my – like you said, it's like maybe it is coming from that emotional side.
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But, okay, would you be fine with the Japanese deporting me?
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No, I mean, like, I don't feel – I feel the same exact way.
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It's like if you're not committing – you're not a danger to someone, you're not committing a crime, like –
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I feel the same way everywhere as I do about, like, my stance here.
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Like, it's just, like, and it may be out of that emotional, like, illogical, but that's just how I feel.
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Which, someone commented this, is why we need to repeal the 19th.
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I'm not saying it's not, it's, like, 100% logical.
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it is coming from an emotional place but that's just yeah but are you fine with japan deporting
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me no if you're not like hurting yeah i'm not like i don't think it's an issue for like anyone
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to just like go live their best life like and you're doing it like okay well i guess she's
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consistent i guess she's consistent but the thing i was going to point out and just picking piggybacking
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off uh mason's point is you say that they're not hurting anybody but they are so how many
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illegal immigrants do you think are in the united states i don't know the exact number i think it's
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over 10 million it might be way higher it could be 20 it could be 30 i don't know the exact
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numbers um do you do you own the house or do you pay rent i rent you rent uh you're in la
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San Diego you're in San Diego do you think the rent's too expensive yeah do you think it's too
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high yeah yeah so to be I want to be charitable I don't want to be completely unfair uh the the
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state of the economy is not 100% influenced by illegal immigrants I don't know what percentage
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I would attribute to it um it's hard to say precisely I would say that if we have a housing
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stock in the united states and this applies not just to housing but to other resources too
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uh this could be health care it could be it could be food well it's definitely health care
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because they're going they're not even paying their hospital bills yeah um so the housing stock
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though uh the if there's 10 million illegal immigrants they're not homeless most of them
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are occupying housing stock that could otherwise go to American citizens. So I think rent is
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fucking bullshit in this country. I think housing prices are bullshit in this country. And I don't
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know the housing. It could be millions or even in the tens of millions of houses that are being
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occupied apartments, houses that are being occupied by illegal immigrants. If we were to deport all
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illegal immigrants, our housing prices would go down, rent would go down, healthcare costs would
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go down, food costs would go down. You know what, even if it fucking went up, whatever, don't care,
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fair trade-off. But I do think that it does harm people. Rent is bullshit in this country. Rent is
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way too expensive it's fucking bullshit that that uh people who uh can barely afford rent
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and so i'm gonna pass it to mason because i gotta take this nice nice go get the pizza
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yeah i mean i i think it's absolutely garbage um yeah we we should not have to pay for the
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the luxury that people from this country from other countries want to have by coming into ours
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If they really want, if they want to come to our country, they should come through the legal way.
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And I mean, because there are plenty of people in that line.
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I know some of those people and they work extremely hard to get here.
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And some of those people I know who have gotten that opportunity to become American citizens and they're better American citizens.
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Like they're better American citizens than the people I know who are born in this country.
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because they worked hard to get here but one thing i can definitely say about people coming
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here legally they're not very good american citizens they're still waving their flag
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they they stomp on ours they burn ours to the ground i think it's garbage i think they should
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all be deported and if they really want to come back they should come back the right way because
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i know they will be they'll be appreciative of being here they'll be better citizens and i will
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gladly welcome them in yeah i mean i just don't see a logical argument otherwise are you wait are
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you um like you're part black part white part mexican or what's your black and white you're
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black and white okay um you said you're mexican like you were born there or i was born here but
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your parents your second generation i'm first generation born here okay so your parents came
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from mexico yes both of them citizens here so your parents were illegal no i'm kidding i'm kidding
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well quick question for you um in a morally neutral blame-free hypothetical conflict between
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the united states and mexico where neither side is right or wrong to which country is your
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allegiance where i live so the united states okay uh what about your parents what do you think
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their answer would be i think uh my dad passed uh he's sorry to hear that
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it's been a while but my mom would probably stand uh for the country that she currently
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lives in as well okay cool and she'd feel for her home country obviously we should
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look you know i don't think ice is doing enough to be honest i agree they should probably deport
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more people look the americans voted for mass deportations instead we have these currently
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there's this have you seen the dignidad yeah good fucking thing there these republicans in in
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congress are uh trying to pass amnesty republicans are trying to pass amnesty
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cucked l republicans uh not it's it's very uh it's not a lot of republicans but uh
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we're totally ridiculous okay um hold on one sec uh okay next topic let me see if there's any
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further notes uh uh i think wait wait you're not what we did yours oh wait wait angelica um
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you dated a 40 year old guy who started crying after you told him gently and nicely there's
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likely not a second date yes yes here just leave it there for a bit tiffany and we'll deal with it
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in a sec 40 year old fully grown man uh appeared very confident very you know all the good traits
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I like um and then we went on a date the date was well but he couldn't stop talking about
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how much he loved his nephew and that he couldn't wait till until he had kids and I had told him
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I am done having children so if you don't want to have children then maybe maybe this can work out
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um but I'll go on a date with you if you want to ask me okay well he couldn't stop talking about
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When I get married, when I have kids, I want my kids to speak this language because it's my native language.
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I'm like, you're making a lot of plans for these kids that don't exist and that you are really desiring.
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And I'm not going to be able to give these to you.
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if i take her on a nice day and he'll like me enough she likes me enough maybe she'll give me
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a child wait so before he knew i did not want any more children like i just know like you told him
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before the day yes i have three i don't want anymore any that's so yeah it was inconsistent
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like you're you keep talking about your nephew and how much you love him and you can't wait
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weird who wants pizza no yeah yeah yeah yes i need the calories yeah two slices or one
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um one one one one two three three three three for you three for mason all right here mason
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take it away for a bit i'll be like that all right i'll take it away
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i had to tie his hand behind his back okay what to say what to say oh yes hmm we've already talked
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about skin the thing is like okay so i had the plan when brian was going to get up and i was
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going to take over because it happens every once in a while i was going to talk about skin virginity
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but we've already covered that about what skin virginity oh yeah yeah because i'm i am a skin
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virgin me too i i like that that is nice that is nice to hear yeah so i was going to ask i was
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going to interrogate you people be like obviously you guys are not skin virgins but my boyfriend
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has a thing about that he's like i don't know that i would like you if you had tattoos exactly
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i agree i agree yeah but we've already lost that i can't bring that up what else do i talk about
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brian stole your thunder i know he stole my thunder brought up tattoos and ruined it for me
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but he brought me pizza so i guess i can forgive him yeah goodness gracious yeah okay uh no yes
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okay this is important uh do you approve of pineapple on pizza yes i do you do oh my gosh
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okay tell me really all of it are you liberal i don't consider myself i mean you're pro
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i honestly like i don't feel like it would be right for me to say i'm either because like
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there's some things i have like mixed feelings on yeah but just like my like values i feel like
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as far as like um relationship stuff definitely falls like more traditional but i think just
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because of like some of the environments and i was raised in and the things i've seen like
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some of my moral like social stuff kind of falls a little more so i guess like i've experienced a
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lot of how do how are your values in a relationship traditional but you're in a situationship
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how are they traditional when i well because like if i the person who i'm going to marry like that
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yeah and like how that would happen like that's more traditional what i'm in right now is like
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it's just like this is someone i love and care about and it's like i'm here for a limited time
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i would rather put my energy into this person that like i feel safe with i feel comfortable
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with like i know i know he values me like we have our own situation without like going and meeting
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randos and like you know giving myself to any more people whereas but once i move my the way i'm
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intentionally date is like date to marry like i don't you know hook up with random people i don't
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do like apps and stuff like but so would you describe this situationship thing traditional
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no no this yeah so so so i guess your dating isn't traditional if but if i was staying it
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would be like we would be in a more traditional setting but it's like so i guess like what i'm
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what i'm trying to like uh point to is like eventually when you find this man that you
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want to eventually marry who's a traditional man do you think a traditional man is gonna like
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I mean, that's something I would be transparent about,
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And if he's not, then that's absolutely his will.
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Well, yeah, so what I'm trying to ask is...
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I don't think it's impossible to get a traditional man
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Well, yeah, it's not impossible to win the lottery.
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so the like what is the likelihood of you running into a man who has traditional values that is
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going to be that is okay with getting with a woman who has had non-traditional relationships
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i think it's very likely because i know a lot of traditional men who their their wives you know
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had similar situations before had a past that wasn't like you know pristine or virtuous and
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you know the ways that you've described previously yeah well yeah well the thing is like i i don't
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think that uh yeah i'm not saying that like you won't be able to find someone who will agree to
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getting married with you i'm talking about the quality of that marriage because i would say the
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quality of the marriages who i see when the guy like just takes a woman even though she's had a
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checkered past like he says i just want to get married i know these i know these guys i have
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know plenty of these situations where they just like i really want to get married i'll take this
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broken this broken lady and i'll just fix her well and i'm not i'm not saying you're broken
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i know but i'm saying like yeah but a woman who is non-traditional and i'm gonna fix her and i'm
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gonna make her traditional it's never worked out well i can agree with that i think wait sorry i
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do have to move things on just for the sake of time um question uh are you pro-choice or pro-life
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it's tough pro-choice pro-life pro-life pro-life life i would probably lean more pro-choice
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pro-choice question for you uh would you rather have abortion or democracy
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wait i'm sorry so you have to choose oh like the right to abortion or democracy of course democracy
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yeah okay just checking uh all right oh those of you okay let's do this one um
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anybody oh man i don't even want to say it because it's cliche who leo no so not the actor that plays
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thor thor just thor if he shows up is if he shows up is just like hey i'm chris henswood no
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you gotta be thor so if do you get a hall pass yes wait really if real if if yeah does he have
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a thor costume for you no he's no no he doesn't does your the husband can't pull that off the
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husband cannot pull off the thor situation i love him but he he he it would have to wait would you
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actually would you actually though probably not but it is you know it's not chris hemsworth it's
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actually thorne oh my gosh i can't yeah i probably would no i wouldn't i wouldn't does your husband
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have a hall pass oh yeah who well for a long time it was jennifer aniston um but he hasn't really
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said in a long time okay probably give them one celebrity crush roman reigns oh wait um
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wait yeah yeah i think i was looking at your instagram and it's like isn't it just all posts
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of roman reigns in my oh like in my reposts i think your reposts i do repost when he his
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clips come up i'll be like oh so yeah he's probably in there uh celebrity crush none my boyfriend is
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it okay celebrity crush so you don't have a hall pass no uh okay so for you let's say you were
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married but roman reigns is like um would you no but never step out but not not just for a one
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night stand like roman reigns is like i love you i want to be in a relationship with you i will stay
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with you for life no you you don't you don't trade you don't do the trade my husband that's my that's
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my person okay if you say so uh let's see here uh okay we're gonna just do some quick questions and
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then wrap uh these are like rapid fire questions so uh what species are we almost sapiens name
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three countries besides the usa mexico uh india and russia can't repeat same three countries
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uh denmark and greece italy scotland ireland finland finland norway poland okay uh how many
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continents are there six i don't know guess throw the number you just throw one out throw that
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number eight eight continents okay seven seven mason oh i'm not this smart how many continents
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are there five no come on seven uh okay there's actually enough people to not even name all of
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the continents uh name one continent you can't repeat i don't even know what it is wait wait
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hold on hold on i believe wait wait name one continent one continent you got this you got this
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i don't even know what a continent is just guess wait wait wait you got you you hold on wait oh
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wait stop stop stop you don't know one continent no you wait you you don't even know what a continent
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is no say that again i don't know what a continent is oh no yes you do okay wait
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question for you is africa a country yeah okay is south america a country country no
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Maybe we were giving her a hard time on the sex work.
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I was in kindergarten and I know where the continent is.
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i don't know no don't help no hints i don't know i'm so i'm not smart at all that's don't say that
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that's not true that is true i actually don't know what it would be i know mexico is wait is
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mexico north or south south okay point with your finger which direction that is i also don't know
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that i told you i'm not smart wait wait hold on okay so point using your finger which direction
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is mexico i don't know okay which direction is south here put your finger i wouldn't be able
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point in the direction i would not be able to tell you okay but so here some i i want to be
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fair because this question could mean do you mean uh like from my own current orientation
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which direction is south i'm making the question really simple if you're looking at a map
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like a typical standard map which direction using your finger is south
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i don't know wait do that again that way i don't know it's do it above the mic
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south is that way i don't know on the map okay which which direction is north
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up north is north is up i think so on a map i don't know yeah on a map on a map on the map
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Well, if I already said this way and this way, then maybe that way.
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which direction is east pointing with your finger down east is down yeah i don't know
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yeah uh okay um oh uh what what's the other country that borders the usa canada you are
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correct how many states in the usa 51 or 50 51 yeah 50 50 what is the capital of the usa
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washington right like the state yeah washington state yeah is the capital of the u.s
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yeah like washington is washington on the west coast or the east coast
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i don't know i'm i'm not like the state the state of washington is it i don't know where it is it
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i have no idea is the state of washington closer to california or closer to new york
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closer to california but it's the capital also i honestly don't know okay i don't know uh what
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is the capital of the usa okay name three u.s states uh utah texas california this one's too
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easy. Let's go. Name two countries in Europe. I don't know anything about Europe. Just two
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countries in Europe. I don't know any. Wait, wait, wait. I don't know. I believe in you.
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I don't know countries in Europe. Countries, did you say, or cities? Countries. Countries.
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Isn't Europe a country? I don't know. Europe. Continent. I don't know.
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okay well name two cities in europe then is that easier i don't does that help no i just thought
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you were messing with me for a second you don't know two countries and you're you get to go first
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by the way which means like they couldn't repeat like you just get free reign over all of europe
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um no i don't know uh yo savage thank you for the uh looks like you bought some merch there
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hold on let me pull it up thank you savage appreciate the merch purchase uh
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what is okay the country that speaks english what country is that
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russia i don't know russia no they don't speak english russia
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oh england wait what wait what language do they speak oh yeah i guess we should leave it split
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yeah let's leave it split for a minute or i guess we don't we could do center and then
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do that what language do they speak in russia i corrected myself i was just thinking white
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people but no they speak russian aren't they white everywhere in europe well i mean it's
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starting to change but um i was just trying to we should probably do something about that
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we should probably whatever's going on there we got to stop that shit um deport them all
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um uh okay what language do they speak in russia russian what language do they speak in england
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Spain and Iran have had many border conflicts as of late.
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okay all right um two countries in europe please switzerland and italy germany and portugal
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croatia and italy really yeah i didn't know i wouldn't have been able to guess that no oh boy
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okay um how many planets are in our solar system that's another one i have no idea
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nine with pluto nine okay um what planet do we live on
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earth earth are you sure though are you sure okay what is the capital of california
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California? I know it's not. It's one that's like not expected, but I don't remember what it is.
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Someone just told me, but I don't know. I'm also new to California. The government building,
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the Pentagon, is what shape? Pentagon? Final answer. Do you think most buildings are a
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pentagon shape like many of them are squares or rectangles i don't know i don't i've never seen
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it and i yeah are you sure you want to go with pentagon well no because that's probably not
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do you think it's a wreck it's not possible for a building to be a pentagon probably not probably
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not yeah it's probably a rectangle like rectangular anyways probably
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why did you just let me gaslight you what the fuck you had it right um
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i don't know uh what what river runs through egypt i'm sorry no the nile
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you don't know okay well she just said but i don't know maybe it's wrong maybe it's right
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uh okay what what country for you what country is directly north of mexico
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i you ask me this over i'm never gonna be able to tell you well this is a different question
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different question what what is it us what country is directly north of mexico so us then
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the u.s yeah you are correct uh let's see i'm gonna skip some of these um how many sides does
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a triangle have what do you call a shape with five sides
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what country gifted the statue of liberty to the united states you know that you know what
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the statue of liberty is though right yeah so what is the country that gifted it to us
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i don't know was it japan i wasn't even aware that it was here i'm gonna do multiple choice
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for you because i'm a nice guy uh germany japan england france france fuck okay
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uh what gas do humans breathe in to survive
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what are you breathing right now i know the answer i'm not this stupid but i just
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which which one what organ pumps uh what organ pumps blood through your heart
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wait that doesn't hold on what what organ what organ hold on i messed it up what organ
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pumps blood through your body oh your heart i fucked that up okay wait wait uh what continent
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is brazilian i don't know oh actually that is a good idea tiffany to go from center when i ask
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and then just go to split i think that works uh so what continent is brazilian i have no idea
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i don't know on the map i don't i don't look at world maps so i've never looked at the map
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have you ever read a book um no i mean in school like when i was in like like ender's game or
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something or no like when you're to kill a mockingbird yeah probably books like that i've
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never actually read a book did you have to read ender's game in school uh not for class for fun
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yeah it was an assigned book for me in like eighth wait seventh grade really great book by
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the way great book okay uh what continent based w teacher who made me read that book
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uh what continent is egyptian again i don't know
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guess i couldn't even guess okay multiple choice here
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egypt is in europe i don't know oh boy okay brazil north america europe asia south america
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brazil yeah yeah i don't know but it was multiple choice so pick one um i know i don't
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south america i don't know i think it's just because that's the last thing she got lucky
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uh okay this is an easy one what continent is what excuse me what continent is japan
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multiple choice or i won't be i don't know the continents i couldn't even give you names
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like i know that there's south america and that's okay i'm gonna list all the continents
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but i'm not gonna give you like four of them like multiple choice north america south america
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europe africa asia australia voice crack antarctica did i is that all seven did i miss
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did i say seven yeah yeah yeah okay and which one am i looking for one of the seven
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i know but japan japan yeah japan what continent i don't know damn it
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okay how many dimes make a dollar four no that's quarter sorry
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how much is a dime 10 cents so how many cents are in a dollar yeah
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100 so 10 times then you are correct well done what is the capital of france
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i have let's go center and then like for the question then split for the response
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i i don't know anything about france what's the capital though what's the major city in france
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i don't know name one city in france i don't know any one city the city of
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um la italy italy is the city in france i don't know we gotta get her back on the show
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uh okay um i i'm telling you i i have like this thing like even in utah it's a small town if you
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put me there i wouldn't be able to find anything like in utah yeah like it's small like even
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there's like i just don't i don't i don't know what it's called question the eiffel tower is where
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mason look into the camera with me um in these moments uh okay if today
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second guess if a thousand divide by ten hundred if today is monday what day is it in three days
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you're putting me on the spot i can't answer questions as fast obviously okay sorry i'll
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slow it down if today is monday what day is it in three days thursday you are correct good job
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uh if you have three quarters three quarters how much money do you have uh 75 cents you are
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correct who painted i'm gonna skip that one uh who painted the mona lisa da vinci what is the name
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of the famous car company founded by henry ford ford congratulations you got it right i have a
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mustang so that explains it if it takes three minutes to boil one egg three minutes to boil
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one egg how many minutes does it take to boil three eggs you said it took three minutes or
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one minute it would take one minute to boil three eggs yeah well but three minutes to boil one
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it's the same pot of boiling water so one minute they don't take are they all going in at the same
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that's a new one well if you have a pot yes they're all going in at the same time yeah so
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they would each take three minutes but i thought you said how many nickels make a dollar
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i guess i could count it on my fingers but i would have to so that would be a lot
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you can't just brain math it no okay what is 10 plus 10 what is 30 plus 10 40
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i don't know i would have to what is 40 plus 10
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50 so if you i'm just going to explain that i guess if you take five away from the 40 and make
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it 35 and you add 5 to the 10 to make it 15 yeah i'm sure i could go through that but that's just
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a lot so 15 plus 35 is a lot i would have to like go through a whole process in my head i don't just
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know the answer so yeah what's 3 plus 7 10 okay 90 minus 45 i don't know that's another one i could
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eventually find it out but i don't know what at the top of my head what's half of 90
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is it 35 or i don't know i can't tell you i was
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30 half of 90 is no that's wrong that's wrong oh boy 12 divided by three i don't know
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you don't know 12 divided by three no 100 divided by four
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you should look into this camera when you give the answer i don't know um maybe not don't do that
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five times five i don't know at this point i can't think okay count you have five fingers right
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mm-hmm it's just 5 20 mason can can you guys pass the plates down to mason uh if you're done
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uh tiffany if you can come over here and grab the plate 20 5 times 5 is 20 5 10 25 sorry okay
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uh name one branch of the u.s government legislative legislative oh my gosh
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the 20th century 21st 21st we are in the 21st century sorry sorry uh what what galaxy do we live
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I have never even heard anything about galaxies
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are we in the milky way or the milky highway or the milky freeway
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never heard of or the milky boulevard i've only heard of or the milky
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road or the milky street i've never heard of those so what are other things like boulevard
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uh are we on the milky expressway yeah do you like milk ease okay never mind
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12 how many months in a decade i have no idea how many months are in a year
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there's there's 12 years in a decade i don't know decade deck deck decade
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maybe how many years are in a century i have no idea cent century guess i couldn't guess i don't
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how many years in a decade century okay how many uh months in a decade
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yep uh what year was the u.s founded i don't know uh
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i honestly don't remember the exact year 1776 correct correct uh what who was the first president
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of the usa um i don't know was it abraham lincoln maybe yes or no though pick one
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abraham lincoln was the first president of the united states and was he assassinated by george
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washington no who assassinated abraham lincoln i don't know was it abraham lincoln who assassinated
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george washington no well who was the first president one of those two i'm guessing because
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you keep mentioning them i don't know on a one dollar bill who is the president on the one dollar
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bill um george washington i don't know and he was the first president
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okay uh where are we sorry i got lost my oh what country what country is the great wall of china
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in? China. You sure? No. Okay. How many seasons are there? How many days in a year? 365. How
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many letters in the alphabet? How many days of the week end with the letter Y? Tiffany
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goes center for question split as soon as I finish the question. Every day? Okay. What
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language do the people in idaho speak english what uh how many okay we already did that if a
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dozen eggs cost three dollars how much is each egg
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oh i actually don't know that one if a dozen eggs is three dollars how much is each egg yeah
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so like what 40 cents 40 cents 25 cents you are correct congratulations congratulations uh
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are in order do you know what year the war of 1812 started
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1812 oh she got one correct well done what is the closest star to earth
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every time you get a question wrong you have to do an hey gal into the camera no that's too many
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okay fine every three you get wrong you have to do one that's so embarrassing to do it for all
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these people well maybe you shouldn't do it on your instagram then but uh okay
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maybe the moon okay okay it is the sun uh what weighs more a pound of feathers
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or a pound of bricks the same good job good job okay what country is the panama canal in
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um country country yeah you are correct uh what i'm gonna skip some of these what language do
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people speak in mexico what language do people speak in canada is there another language they
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spanish all those mexican canadians i don't know what it is but i know there is one i love those
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mexican canadians um okay if you pass the person in second place what place are you in first
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second you pass the person in second place you're in first okay
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mason mason you're in second place you are in second place congratulations a prize is in order
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uh i guess the product good we speak canonese says pacy george thank you man
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where did the attack on pearl harbor take place
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or no no it was it was here right no it was here sorry where
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indeed um so wait do you think uh pearl harbor took place in japan maybe tokyo
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no not japan no okay i was africa no here but i don't know where
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uh closer to the west coast or closer to the east coast again i have no idea yes though
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um if i had to guess random maybe the west coast okay uh adolf hitler ruled which country
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okay and which country was the nazis um i don't know was it in europe
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i mean somewhere white so i don't know somewhere white yeah what about those african nazis
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no i don't know not them okay uh before mount everest was discovered what was the tallest
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mountain in the world um fuji okay fuji kilimanjaro kiliman okay that's an yeah i have no idea
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well before something is discovered is it still there
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still there oh yeah so you're so tricky that was a tricky one to be fair it's tricky uh it before
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mount everest was discovered mount everest was the tallest mountain in the world uh okay what
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country this is a bit of a trick question though to be fair what country did the vietnam war happen
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in vietnam what continent though did that i don't know what continent is vietnam in i have no idea
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yeah but are they also asian i guess that's probably they would look closest to that so
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that's probably what they are i guess i don't know which primary continent do asian people
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live on final answer good job sorry i'm sorry okay all right we're almost here at the end here
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the 77 plus 33 is actually wrong it's not 100 i know i'm lying i know it's 110
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it's 110 i was gassing that i was gaslighting them okay if you were we're so close so close
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if you were born i need it my fucking pizza's getting cold fuck okay if you were born 10 years
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ago if you were born 10 years ago how old would you be today if i was born 10 years ago yes yeah
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how old would you let's start with you how old would you be today wow good job guys how many
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world wars were there i don't know three or four three or four okay two two two well done uh what
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decade was world war one so what i'm looking for like 1820s 1950s uh 1730s i don't know
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1920s 1910s 1920 1920s what was the primary decade of
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guess just throw that i wouldn't even know throughout the seven
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1650 well it has to be it has to be after right
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so it might be the 1730s it could be the 1790s it could be the 1820s what is it
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um i don't know whatever you 1890s 1890s okay 1930s 40s 1940s 1940s okay uh
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i'm gonna skip some uh can you name three k-pop stars no can you name three kardashians
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we will accept jenner's kardashians or jenner's uh um kylie chris and kendall
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chloe courtney rob there you go uh let's see here uh i'm skipping a bunch of these
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no not a hundred percent all right uh what percentage of men do you think are over six feet
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20 30 percent um over six feet 43 i'd say around 30. 25 what did you say 40 43 to be six feet or
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over is about 15 what percentage of men make at least one million dollars a year
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okay 10 percent 15 15 percent one one point one it's less than one percent uh what percentage
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of men do you find attractive if you're single i guess wait this is hard to ask the relationship
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like the women in the relationships never mind uh what percentage of men have yachts
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five percent okay five percent of men have yachts eight percent eight percent sure
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eight percent of men have yachts around the world or is it i don't care where you are girl
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you could go to monaco i don't even think in monaco motherfuckers be having i don't even
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think of monaco motherfuckers be having some uh they don't they don't got eight percent of men in
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monaco don't have no yachts i'll tell you what okay um who does anybody here keep a list of all
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the men they've been with i'm not raising my hand i was just demonstrating i wanted you guys to raise
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your hands don't get a list who has anyone i'll answer this who here has slept with someone the
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same day that you met them. I did that. At least once. Mason, you fucking slut. Answer
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the question. Who here has had a threesome? Nobody? Really? Even polyamorous? Okay. Has
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anyone had a hell phase no okay has anyone here hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period
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yeah that's gross really nobody okay uh do men suck no are men the problem
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would you prefer to live in a world without men no okay um let's see if there's anything else
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uh do you think white people are inherently racist
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no do you like white people yes okay have you dated a white boy yes okay uh do you think trump
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i don't know if fascist is the right word i feel like he's more like elitist than anything but
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i don't know if there's any i guess i'll wrap it pretty much here is uh any final thoughts
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from anybody before i wrap any final things you guys want to hit or besides
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no nothing final speak now forever forever hold your peace yo
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okay i think we did everything we did boom boom boom boom yeah okay all right uh that was uh a
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small panel but it was fun nevertheless we still had a pretty damn long stream even though it was
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a super small panel i would not have seen that coming but i also was spurging out for like at
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least 30 minutes about at the very beginning it was yeah i was i was on a monologue i'm telling
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I'm telling you what, I was on a monologue right there.
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Goddamn, my pizza is probably cold as shit.
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I'm sending y'all home with some pizza and some muffins.
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I was a little bent out of shape because of all the no-shows.
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but uh shout out to you guys for making it thank you appreciate it uh thank you for coming
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it was a pleasure having you guys on and speaking with you you guys were fun and
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manic episode i don't know what the fuck my spectrum activities my autism my my autism i guess
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So I want to say, though, to the panel, Gigi.
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I want to say, last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
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Also, please leave a nice comment once the live ends.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who supports, donates, and supports the show.
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shout out um uh indy for the champagne pop earlier and uh appreciate you guys couldn't do it without
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you guys uh the viewer support uh we're gonna be live again sunday 5 p.m pacific any girls who
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make sure uh we will see you guys next time don't hit that quite yet tiffany but uh do we need to
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blm big labia matter uh okay you can hide that all right uh oh seven's in the chat good night
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guys i had some new things i added to the soundboard and then i i'll have to bust those
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out later okay anyways uh oh sevens guys it was a fun stream good night guys and we'll see you
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next time so okay uh did anybody lie about anything we're now wrapped
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no anybody lie about their body count or anything mason
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