She Is "Single" But STILL Hooks Up With Her TOXIC Ex?! | Dating Talk #96
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Summary
This week, Elizabeth and Bryan are joined by a very special guest to talk about the night before. They talk about their first time on the mic, the dangers of drinking on the streets of Santa Barbara, and how to get a labia place.
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Welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast. Thank you for tuning in tonight. You could
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have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me. I appreciate that. We are coming
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to you live from Santa Barbara, California every Sunday and Tuesday, now at 5 p.m. Pacific.
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I am your host, Brian Atlas. I'm joined by my co-host, Sydney Watson. Name change again.
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It was Ashley St. Clair. Used to be Kiki. Now it's Dr. Sydney Watson. Dr. Sydney Watson.
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She's a bit shy. Guys, a few quick announcements before the show begins. My sincere apologies
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that we are about 30 minutes late here. We had four no-shows. Not even Flakes just didn't
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let us know they weren't coming. I confirmed with them the night before. Sorry about that.
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Four no-shows. Super rude. If they could have told us, they wouldn't have been able to make
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it, but it is what it is. And we tried to go to the streets. Nikki and Maddie went down
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to the... Nikki and Maddie? Did I... Nikki? Oh, sorry. Nick. Do you like that nickname, Nick?
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You want to be Nikki? I'll pass on. Nikki? Okay. Nick and Maddie, excuse me, went down to the
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mean streets of Santa Barbara. It's dangerous. You see us in this high rise. It's to protect
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us from the dangers on the street. They tried to gather. They approached probably 10, 15
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different groups of people, tried to get them on the podcast. Unfortunately, just the way
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we've done it a couple times before and we've had actually semi-decent luck, but very unfortunately,
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Go subscribe. Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please
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tell us your name, age and occupation. Go ahead. Hi, I'm Ali Boba. I am 26 years old and I'm from
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Los Angeles, California. And you got, you got speaking to the mic. Oh, I'm sorry. Um, sorry.
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I'm Ali Boba. I'm 26 years old and I'm from Los Angeles, California and I am currently a streamer.
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I stream games and just chilling. Okay. On Twitch, kick, YouTube. I'm on kick right now. Okay.
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Okay. Um, I am Elizabeth Wynn. I was here last time. I am 23 from Los Angeles, California.
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And I am a model. Not last time, but. Oh wait, I'm 24. What? My birthday was last week.
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My birthday was last week. Yes. It's all downhill after 24. What? Yeah. Why do you say that?
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You're scaring me. You can confirm, right? It's all downhill after 24. Yeah. Okay. 24 is the,
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just your back starts to hurt. Back hurts. Needs hurt. Ovaries hurt. I'm not an old lady. What do you
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mean? I'm not sure. Um, wait, your ovaries hurt? Yes. My ovaries and gonads are hurting. Is that
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what they're called? Um, go ahead. Oh yeah. Um, I'm a model actress. Yep. Don't. How was your last
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time? Don't. Do you guys remember me? Well, not last time, like two months ago or something. Yeah. A while
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ago. I don't know if anyone remembered me though. You were on before. Yeah. Yeah. Uh,
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well, don't undersell yourself. You also, what? I was around a business. Family business. What
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about the ice skating? Don't forget the ice skating. Oh yeah. I forget. Olympics? Was there
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Olympics or something? Two times double gold medalists. What? Olympic? Uh, it's like throughout
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the US. Yo, FTG, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships. That triggers, uh, hold on. Boom.
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Fireworks. Yeet. Thank you. FTG, appreciate it. Uh, so you were nationals? Yes. It's like
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internationally. Um, I represented the USA. Okay. And I did Youth Olympics. I didn't do actual
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Olympics, but Youth Olympics. Got it. Very cool. Um, and you said you, if I recall from last
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show, you own supermarket businesses in various South East Asian countries. Is that about right?
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Yes. Family business. Yes. Is it money laundering? Huh? No. Huh? What? Okay. Okay. Okay. What
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are you trying to make me say? No, I don't know. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. Cause a lot
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of people in the chat were like, what's going on here? So that's, I read everything. I'm like,
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eh, if they don't trust me, that's your problem. Like I know myself, you know? Okay. All right.
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I stand for who I am. Um, I also was Maxim magazine cover winner, cover model. Rock and roll.
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What about you? Hi, my name is Amber. I'm 22 years old. I'm a content creator from Los Angeles,
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California. What kind of content do you make? I do YouTube and I do brand, I do a lot of things.
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Like I'm just, I do a lot of things. So on YouTube, I do a bikini hauls. I do like fashion.
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I love fashion. Cause like if, if you just say you do YouTube, you could ostensibly do
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like my play Minecraft video, like video games, you know? Yeah. Oh no. I do bikini hauls.
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I do like fashion hauls. That's I love that. Got it. Uh, hold on. Let's, let's allow Dr.
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Sidney Watson to, uh, weigh in here. Okay. Uh, nevermind. All right. What do you mean?
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I'm clicking on, they're not coming up. Oh, geez. There's always something weird. I'll try,
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I'm trying to figure out why that might be. Um, uh, Morgan, why don't you introduce yourself?
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Hey, I'm Morgan. I'm 24. Also just turned 24 last week. So maybe we're B day twins and as my
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best friend now calls me old. So that's funny, but I, um, and I am a turning point USA contributor
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and I do social media and content full time, social media stuff. Sorry. Age again. 24, 24. Okay.
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Now Madison God. My name is Madison. I am 18 years old. I do the whatever podcasts. I am a host at a
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bar as well as a student at Santa River City College studying accounting. Okay. Welcome. Sorry guys.
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We're having an issue, an issue with our stream yard. I don't know why it's not, uh, working. No,
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that's not the issue. Um, I'm trying to, sorry guys. Hold on one sec while I'm trying to troubleshoot this
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right now. Madison, why don't you tell us about the, uh, your situation with your dad from last show
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while, while I'm trying to figure this out. Oh yeah. So basically after the show went out, we kind of
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took a moment to kind of rewatch it and everything. We didn't really appreciate kind of the things that
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each of us shared. So we're not really on talking terms anymore. Oh wow. Um, what if you click on
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live? Nope. The next one. No. Okay. Uh, sorry guys. It's been a shit show today. Um, y'all messed it up
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for me. Y'all ruin my relationship with my father. Wow. When was this? How long ago? Last week. What did
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he say? Last week. We had my dad on the show. He was on the show? Oh my God. Yeah. Thank you FDG
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for that. Um, that's fireworks again. Also a fit check. So I'm going to go behind the scenes really
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quick. Try to get that fixed. And, uh, so Madison, if you want to lead a fit check. I'm ready. If everyone
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just wants to scoot out and stand up for a sec. Oh my God. Fit check. Fit check. Is this
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a new thing? Is this a new thing? I didn't do this last time. I guess so. If you'd like
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to explain your outfit, please do so. Like in the mic like this or? Honestly, I think the
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shoes make the fit. So show us the shoes. You gotta show the shoes. You gotta show the shoes.
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I like that. I'm just cozy vibes today. Well, my, my fit. Do you see my fit? Yeah. Okay.
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My fit was inspired by you guys. You guys wanted this top. I saw some people mentioned
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it. This one. Oh, is it a dress? It's a dress. Oh, thank you. Cute. All right. Fixed. We
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got it fixed. Outfits. Oh, if you. My fit is just from white fox and ever crummy jeans.
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Um, and then they said comfy shoes. So hokas, I love them. They're like the best.
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They're like so cute. Bro, your titties are about to pop out. No, they won't. I promise. Okay.
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Okay. Okay. I was, I was like, Oh fuck. We're going to get TOS. Okay. All right, guys. So I got
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stream labs working. Uh, let me just, you know, thank you, Eric, for becoming a member. Thank you.
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Oh fuck. I hot. Shit. I lost one. Um, David Carter. Thank you for becoming a member. Sorry.
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I unstarted one. The memberships is like from New York. Somebody I'm, I apologize. Mark C. Ferg.
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Thank you for being a member for three months. Keep up the amazing work, bro. Love the show. Hey,
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thank you, man. Appreciate it. Uh, did we pull this one up? I think we did. Uh, thank you,
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Kenan. Uh, all right. Okay. So we're going to go around the table once more. So what is your
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current relationship status? Are you single? Are you talking stage, situationship, friends
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with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex cult? How, if you're single, how long have
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you been single? And also what's your longest relationship? Go ahead. Um, I'm currently
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single and it's by choice. Um, a lot of reasons for that, but mainly just because I'm focusing
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on myself and like career stuff right now. Um, also to the dating pool is like terrible. Um,
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you live in LA, right? Yeah. Born, born and raised too. So it's rough. Yeah. And I, I've
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been in a relationship before, but I was actually younger. It was from 18 to 21. He actually ended
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up cheating on me. So good times, great times. Um, and that was actually like my last, like
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real serious relationship. So did you cheat on him too? I didn't, I should have back.
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So you were the loyal one. Yeah, I was. I did. And you know what? Like everything that
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happened, it was like, whatever, you know, but I feel like sometimes breakups just like,
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you know, they kind of make you. So everything happens for a reason. He was just not meant
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to be how it goes. Everything happens for a reason. That's what I say. Yeah. So if they
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break on, break up on you, what? Okay. So everything happens for a reason, right? Yes. Have
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you heard of the brain eating amoeba called Nigleria fallowry? No, I have. So basically if this
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is why you gotta be very careful in like hot springs or still water. So not, it's not a risk
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in ocean water, but if you're ever in like a lake, you don't want to dunk your head under
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the water because, especially in the hot spring, because what they do is this brain eating amoeba
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travels up your nose, dating podcast, by the way, travels up your nose. And it's like the
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death rate is 99% and you're dead within like five days. Yeah. Ooh. Nigleria fallowry.
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I think I'm pronouncing it right. So does everything happen for a reason? Like the brain eating
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amoeba son and then donated your organs and saved someone's life. I mean, yeah, I don't
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know about, but what were you talking about? Like everything was for a reason. How is that
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like a category of that though? Well, getting, I got the brain eating amoeba. Everything
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happens for a reason. I think more of an example would be like a death of like your mom or something
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like that. Maybe that would be a better example. That's still pretty bad. That's true. Pretty bad.
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You would have to learn how to like become stronger. My entire family got wiped out in a meteor strike.
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I mean, it doesn't work like that. It doesn't work like that. It is true.
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Okay. Okay. Um, wait. So, okay. So you were in this relationship for three years from like
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18 to 21. Okay. Then you cheated on you and then you swore off men. Is that correct?
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Yeah. Okay. And you've just been, you know, it's funny though. I didn't really tell you
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the full story. Oh, he actually ended up being gay. What? You turned him? What? I swear.
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You turned him? I think I turned him. I think I did. Wait, how did, did you, so in the three
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years you were dating him, Eden, were there hints? Well, we were like really traditional old
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school. Right. So like we, I'm going to be honest, we weren't intimate until I turned
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18. So like, it was like, you know, and like, wait, hold on. So you were dating him before
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you were, I was 17 when he started courting me. He was also 25 years old. Oh, let's see.
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Yeah. When you were 17? Yes. That's a yikes. He's 25 and 25 and I was 17. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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What? Wait, did he cheat on you with a guy or with a girl? With a, well, I don't know the
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terminology for it, but it was like a guy, a girl, a guy turning into a girl. Oh, a trans woman.
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Yes. Yes. Wait, wait, wait, he cheated on a trans? Hold on. Not only, wait, oh, he cheated
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with, on me with a trans. Oh, he's not trans. He's not, but I think. He's not. Wait, can you
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just scoot the mic that way just a tad? No way. This way? Yes. Okay. So cheated on
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you with a transgender woman? Yes. Or transgender man? So a man that's actually
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turning into a woman. Yes. So it's a trans woman. So used to be a man. Yes. Became a woman.
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So pretty much she had the boobs, but still had the thingy down there. Had the pee-pee. Huh?
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He had the pee-pee still. So does that make you gay or not? That's gay. Right? I think so.
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Yeah. I would say so. Yeah. He was getting banged in the booty. 100%. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. I think.
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You don't think that's gay, Brian? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's gay. What I was about to say is,
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I think if you're a dude and you're sucking dick, that's kind of gay. I'm just going to say,
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I'm saying it. I think that's like. I think so. How is that not. I think a lot of people.
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Wouldn't that be gay? Yeah. Yeah. Is that not. I just filmed a video on this last week. Are we getting canceled?
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And I asked like 200 college kids, like, is it gay to date a trans man? Like if a woman's dating a trans man. Okay. We're canceled.
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It's funny. It's funny. Some people just don't think it's gay, which. It's gay. Yeah.
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I think so. Interesting. So you've never dated ever since?
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I dated some, like I had situationships, we'll call them. Oh, okay. Yeah. Multiple situationships.
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One year long situationship. One year long. Oh, wow. And not a relationship?
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Honestly. Commitment issues? I see this one. He had commitment issues. And here's the thing I learned.
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And when a guy says he's not ready for a relationship, he's probably not ready for one just with you.
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This is why I say like, if you're going to introduce me into a situationship, best believe I don't want you.
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You know what I mean? I'm like, that's a huge turn off. I'm sorry.
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If it's a situationship, I'd rather just be single. You know what I mean?
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I want a guy who actually knows what he wants and not a situationship. He's just going to play.
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So during this situationship, were you seeing other guys or were you loyal to him?
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I honestly think so because when I ended things, he popped out with a relationship three weeks later.
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He popped out with a new relationship three weeks later.
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But he called it a relationship or a situationhip?
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And after he told me I lived far away when I was, he lived in East LA, I lived in the Valley.
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Like, sure, that's long distance in LA terms, but it's not.
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That is not long distance. I've done multi-space long distance.
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Well, I wouldn't even drive. She has to just come to me, you know?
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If you're in a relationship, driving an hour is nothing.
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When it comes to, like, love and relationships, a lot of people think, like, it's about, you know, shared values, loyalty.
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If you're close, if you live five minutes from the person.
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I mean, okay, sure, it makes it easier, but that doesn't mean long distance doesn't work out.
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You can, like, know somebody multi-states away.
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And I think it is honestly dependent on the man.
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So, like, you said you're in a situation ship, and then he came into a relationship later.
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If a guy actually wants to date you, he will date you.
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If he doesn't want to date you, he'll say, well, I'm not ready for a relationship, and that's your sign to go.
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I think convenience is underrated when it comes to relationships.
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But long distance relationships are, they're hard.
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But if you're passionate about each other, it shouldn't, like, the distance shouldn't matter, is what I believe.
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For me, it's, like, long distance is, like, not a thing.
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Because it just depends on the person, because I'm very, like, touchy.
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Like, I want, when I feel like I'm having a mental breakdown, like, I want somebody to be there for me.
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You know, I don't want you to call me or you can't even, like, you know, come and hug me or something like that.
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I think it just comes down to prioritizing each other.
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Like, if he can prioritize you and you prioritize him, like, it does work.
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So, how frequently are you having mental breakdowns?
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Are you a once a week mental breakdown type of chick?
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So, is it better now or worse, your mental breakdown frequency?
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I think it's better because I've had things that, you know, I go to the gym.
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Honestly, I feel like we kind of underestimate people having mental illnesses.
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Brandon Melz donated $99 in donating specifically to say hi to Madison.
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I just feel like we're just underestimating a lot of people.
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They might look like they're fine, because you can't tell.
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And comes back like better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.
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Thank you, seven deadly simps with your poetic TTS.
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I just feel like we just kind of underestimate people.
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They look like they're really, they look perfectly fine, but inside they're struggling
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I think now that we prioritize mental health more, like it's talking about a lot more,
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but the thing is, so I said I'm anti-therapy, which, you know, some, it works for some people,
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but also largely a lot of therapists are prescribing women antidepressants, anti-anxiety medications.
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And then, I mean, now more than ever, women are hooked on pharma and self-medicating
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those types of things, or you have ADHD, you're now on antidepressants, you're on anti-anxiety
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medication, you're on Adderall, you're on Vyvanse, whatever, and your entire hormonal,
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And I feel like, you know, as much as we talk about mental health and it's, we should talk
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But I also think that therapists kind of use it as a way just to make money.
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Well, I just, I, my therapist is different from my psychiatrist.
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Psychiatrist prescribes you drugs, therapy, just to talk to somebody and like have somebody
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like there to tell you, you know what, I see a cycle that you're doing, or like, hey,
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like you're kind of dating somebody like your dad's traits.
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You know, I really love talking to someone like that, that actually has experience or,
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you know, years of experience that has seen, you know, people that have had the same stuff
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as me, you know, just talking to somebody like kind of helps me a lot to just like,
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oh, wow, I didn't, you know, realize this stuff about myself.
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Wait, you said you would talk to your therapist about guys you're dating and she,
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And she'd say something about your dad's traits?
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Just like, um, for example, like, well, my dad's an alcoholic and I, you know, I don't
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I don't want to date somebody that, you know, the truth.
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Do you need a therapist to tell you that though?
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Like, I think she needs to, I think she just wants someone to guide her.
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I think somebody that like someone, you need a strong masculine boyfriend.
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I actually think it's a red flag to be dating a girl who's in therapy.
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I think I'm healing myself from like things that I've had in my childhood.
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Like, you know, like I really like talking about it and telling me, you know, she's kind
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She has like, you know, 10 years of experience.
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So she can tell me like, these are ways that you could actually cope with that or try this,
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you know, try to go to the gym and stuff like that.
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I want somebody that has experience, you know, as well as obviously I'm looking for a good
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guy, you know, but that comes with like fixing myself from the inside first and bettering
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Well, I guess you, but like, is your therapist a feminist?
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Cause, um, she, she just, I mean, actually I've only gone once with her cause I changed
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Like she wasn't really like telling me like, Hey, I want somebody like be straight up with
00:25:00.320
me, you know, and be like, Hey, this is what you're doing.
00:25:02.140
You know, like, um, you're doing this and that straightforward.
00:25:07.460
I do want to cultivate it, but I want something that I could tell, like, you know, I have
00:25:11.820
So like I want someone that I could not, you know, someone professional that won't say
00:25:16.080
my secrets that I could actually talk to, you know, um, it's very different talking to
00:25:20.360
like, you know, a friend or something like that, like a boyfriend.
00:25:23.280
Cause you never know where you're going to break up with them and then they're just going
00:25:30.320
And when a therapist, you can never like break up with them and they'll tell them your secrets
00:25:34.040
You know, that hopefully, hopefully that's the goal.
00:25:36.320
Hopefully they, I mean, by law, they can't do that.
00:25:39.120
Therapy is great if you just like want to vent to somebody.
00:25:41.340
And then I feel like a lot, a therapist though, will tell you kind of what you want to hear.
00:25:46.380
It can work through things, but I mean, our generation, Gen Z mental health wise is down
00:25:54.280
But then the thing is, is I think more than ever, our society lacks God.
00:25:58.920
And I think a lot of people need to come back to Christ, honestly, because I mean, in the
00:26:04.500
church, you have accountability, you can talk to your pastoral team.
00:26:07.880
You can have almost like counseling through the church to where you're rooted in biblical
00:26:12.580
So, I mean, I don't go to therapy, but I have biblical mentors to where then, you know,
00:26:19.400
And then it's rooted in scripture and rooted in truth instead of just, you know, Hey, cause
00:26:24.500
I used to go to therapy when I was younger, when I was like seventh grade, eighth grade,
00:26:28.420
And it's like, you know, Hey, journal this and like, tell me how you feel.
00:26:32.120
But I think a lot of things, it's like when you pray about it, when you talk to God about
00:26:35.280
it and you read your Bible, you finally, you have that peacefulness and knowing that your
00:26:40.800
anxieties and your troubles, like God's got it.
00:26:44.200
And, you know, you just have to like talk to them about it and work through those things,
00:26:50.220
You said, you kind of talked to your therapist about some like relationship type stuff.
00:26:54.800
What were, what was the guidance that she gave you on relation, like dating a particular
00:27:01.360
Cause basically like I'm in a on and off relationship for two years.
00:27:05.280
But it's like a very like emotional abusive relationship.
00:27:17.780
Elizabeth, you tell us your relationship situation.
00:27:26.260
I've been single for 24 years, but I'm talking to someone and.
00:27:31.500
I mean, hopefully you were single from like at least the first 14, 15, you know?
00:27:43.120
Like definitely you wouldn't be dating at like one year old, you know?
00:27:45.520
So you've been single for 24 years, but like, were you, were you really going to be
00:27:51.180
Like, no, but then as in, I wasn't really seeking, I wasn't seeking anybody.
00:28:37.380
Because last time you were on, I think you were single.
00:28:39.220
Um, actually I could be wrong, but I think he found me from the last podcast.
00:29:13.100
It's just like that's when I find someone best believe that he has checked on my boxes
00:29:18.160
As in when I say high standards, listen, it's why are you giving me that face?
00:29:23.060
She hasn't talked to the guy on the phone even.
00:29:32.580
But you said you're in a, you're in a relationship with him.
00:29:36.220
I call it, I call it that because we both trust.
00:29:56.560
Since, I said since the last podcast, which was like two months ago.
00:30:23.040
And also I found out that we have like a mutual friend.
00:30:27.800
But how have you gone two months though without like a phone call or a FaceTime, but still
00:30:33.980
Like through, I guess we communicate through stories.
00:30:49.240
He's really focusing on his career as well, which is respect because I want to focus on
00:30:55.060
It's either be single and focus or like, because I, that's, that's all I really want
00:31:01.040
It sounds like you're in a situation ship, but you just said you're not down for a situation
00:31:16.280
Your boyfriend who you've never even spoken to.
00:31:20.360
It's because like I'm not, I'm not the one to look around.
00:31:24.580
What does looking around have to do with you having a phone call with your boyfriend?
00:31:29.940
Like honestly, what if I say like, I'm not even, like.
00:31:39.360
Like I'm not like ready to date yet because I'm still focusing on my career.
00:31:46.220
You said he's your boyfriend, but you're not ready to date.
00:31:57.820
You don't have time to call him or actually meet him, go on a date with him, but you are,
00:32:04.560
you know, I sort of see you're in a, you're boyfriend, girlfriend, but you're so busy.
00:32:12.440
Yeah, we're both so busy because we're both working on each, like ourselves.
00:32:19.540
But in the sense that you're in like a relationship?
00:32:31.720
Yeah, well, if you say a country, it's not going to.
00:32:40.560
Do you feel like you're like wasting time ever?
00:32:42.620
Like, do you actually see it being a relationship eventually?
00:32:57.000
Because it's rare when you see someone with good qualities.
00:33:00.740
Did you see that on his, when he was doing his TikTok dances?
00:33:29.080
Here, send something, send a chat where Elizabeth would be able to confirm, like, if you guys
00:33:35.160
have some inside joke or something that would reveal that this is actually the dude that
00:33:54.740
How can you be in a relationship with someone you've never spoke to, let alone seen?
00:34:03.800
Yo, Mr. Ben Having, thank you so much for the Streamlabs tip, man.
00:34:08.380
Um, people keep telling me about the real natch.
00:34:15.980
Um, but word, like, it doesn't really make a lot of sense.
00:34:27.120
So you wouldn't consider yourself single right now?
00:34:30.520
Yeah, because I respect him, because I don't want to be talking to anybody else.
00:34:39.440
Are your parents, because last time you were on the show, your parent, both your parents,
00:34:58.320
Tell them to stop watching so we can get into the nitty gritty.
00:35:52.040
Um, and he's a 9, 10 plus hour flight away from you.
00:36:11.480
Like, I'm pretty sure he sees that as, like, more like a friend.
00:36:20.980
He's your boyfriend, but you don't know if he's religious?
00:36:25.920
But how, you've never had the, the quick convo.
00:36:35.680
Would it bother you if you knew right now he was just, like, getting down with some fraulein?
00:36:48.400
No, it wouldn't bother me, but I don't, it doesn't matter.
00:36:52.440
No, because, like, I don't think, you know what I mean?
00:36:57.260
It's not about, it's not about whether you want to think it or not.
00:37:00.440
That's like trust issues in this, in this sense.
00:37:02.640
It's not about, I mean, you, you've never met in person.
00:37:13.180
He's got, you said 12 million followers on TikTok, 1.5 million on Instagram.
00:37:17.400
There's probably chicks in his, there's probably women in his DMs.
00:37:20.660
You're probably just, I mean, I'm just being, don't shoot the messenger.
00:37:24.020
You're probably just on the slow burner for him.
00:37:28.400
Like, at one point, he'll meet you and then, but he's probably seeing other women.
00:37:37.520
Because there's, like, a bunch of guys trying to hit on me.
00:37:50.820
Do you, does that upset you that your boyfriend is fucking other women?
00:37:56.200
Why are you saying this into my head when it's not facts?
00:37:58.760
Well, I don't, I can't say definitively, but like, given the information you've provided,
00:38:04.380
I could be wrong here, but given what you've told me, I'm strongly leaning towards,
00:38:15.200
Do you, do you actually, the, the, not a catfish, could you want to issue a, a breakup
00:38:20.100
Because I'm, like, 97.33% sure he's cheating on you.
00:38:38.640
Actually, did we, there was a little, you know, last.
00:39:02.600
See, and I hope you enjoyed talking to him, but, like, I don't understand how you can
00:39:06.840
not have a phone call or a FaceTime, and, you know, I'm not saying he's a catfish.
00:39:10.260
Like, he definitely probably is real, but if you want to be in a serious relationship
00:39:14.260
with someone, you said you're a Catholic, how can you date someone you don't even know
00:39:17.020
their religion, you don't really know where they're at, and, like, I don't understand
00:39:20.780
Um, I believe he's Christian, so, like, probably because...
00:39:29.240
Because he's on articles I read before, you know what I mean?
00:39:31.720
So it's kind of like you get to know someone through that.
00:39:35.160
But, I mean, it's, I feel like it's either they're Christian or they're not.
00:39:41.040
So what, what did you specifically read that would make, lead you to believe that he might
00:39:47.620
Um, he has this, reminds me of, like, the same morals as me, like, throughout his childhood
00:39:54.520
In the articles you mentioned that were published, in any of those articles, does he say anything
00:40:00.400
about his faith or Jesus or any, mentioning any...
00:40:10.220
No, I'm just trying to connect the dots, like, how do...
00:40:24.560
Are you still in that situation-ship that you were in?
00:40:28.900
You're single for, how long have you been single?
00:40:34.220
When's the last time you hung out with your on-again, off-again, two-year situation-ship?
00:40:44.700
I mean, if you want to make this podcast spicy, I can.
00:41:15.760
Thank you for the, uh, gifted 20 worships, man.
00:41:33.340
Well, I'll try to ask questions to make things concise.
00:41:36.440
So, you previously mentioned that you were dating the guy for about two years.
00:41:55.560
Uh, I think towards, like, the end of the two years, um, it was very, like...
00:42:02.080
Um, we didn't really share that much, like, interest.
00:42:16.480
Obviously, like, I was, like, we're fighting too much.
00:42:26.120
So, you've been single for two months, but my question was, when's the last time that
00:42:57.680
You said, okay, because you said you've been single for two months.
00:43:07.020
Because the thing is, like, I grew up Christian.
00:43:08.880
I grew up in, like, in the Christian community.
00:43:11.240
And, um, I, my sexuality actually got, like, suppressed.
00:43:21.140
Like, I'm more of a, you know, like, emotional, you know, attachment or emotional connection
00:43:35.500
So, you've broken up, but you guys are, do you hang out every day?
00:43:41.200
How frequently do you hang out in a friendly capacity?
00:43:54.860
No, because I think I'm focusing on myself right now.
00:43:56.840
I feel like I really want to, like, kind of fix the things that I have.
00:44:09.680
Organized religion is all well and good, but it is an echo chamber.
00:44:13.740
Just like social media, it confirms individual truths.
00:44:20.300
Always ask questions, especially from the people giving you advice.
00:44:47.200
Don't you think for the sake of moving on for yourself and him that you probably shouldn't
00:45:00.500
We used to live together, but it just got really toxic.
00:45:02.580
So we like, kind of like separated and not live together anymore.
00:45:05.720
Did you pull an amber herd and take a shit in his bed?
00:45:27.860
I understand people that are in toxic relationships because it's an addiction.
00:45:32.460
Like, I feel like, you know, obviously you relapse, but I'm the type like if, if you're
00:45:36.760
gonna ruin my like mental health, just leave, you know, or be violent.
00:45:42.180
But wouldn't you want to leave that in the past and like not be around him if he did these
00:45:46.620
And I mean, and you're working past those things and working your own life.
00:45:49.940
Why would you want to continue to enable him in a sense?
00:45:52.480
Because if you're hanging out with him, you're giving him a sense of like, well, maybe I could
00:45:58.420
But I did think like that before I was in a relationship like this.
00:46:01.240
I was like, why can't people just leave in toxic relationships?
00:46:03.680
Like you just leave, you know, people that hate, you know, other people until you're
00:46:08.000
And it's so hard because you're emotionally attached and you're codependent to that person.
00:46:11.300
And it's so different when you're in it because it's like, wow, like, you know,
00:46:18.520
But probably because you haven't met like the right person.
00:46:21.000
Like if you met someone with better qualities, you could compare and contrast.
00:46:35.340
And I'm not, I am not, when I say this, I'm not advocating that you be toxic or abusive.
00:46:41.080
However, one of the worst things that you can do is bore a woman.
00:46:45.440
And I think that a lot of women find it exciting to be involved with these bad, that's why you,
00:46:55.000
Like, so women are attracted to them because oftentimes they display these dark triad personality
00:47:05.960
But like a lot of women will say, I like bad boys.
00:47:19.480
A trauma bond is like, for example, like my parents, like, I think it's what you see
00:47:23.300
Like your parents dynamic is, um, if your parents didn't have like a toxic environments like
00:47:29.060
Like that makes you feel comfortable because your whole life you've been like, you know,
00:47:33.140
kind of like used to parents fight all the time.
00:47:35.740
They get, you know, like separated, they come back together.
00:47:38.300
And as a child, like you see that, that's normalized to your parents divorce.
00:47:42.220
Um, I think your psych, your psychiatrist or psychologist, therapist, therapist, did
00:47:50.680
No, I think I figured out about myself and you know, it's true.
00:47:56.080
Like she doesn't do anything like that, but their dynamic has been for 25 years.
00:47:59.320
Like he tried, my mom tried to help my dad and he didn't want help.
00:48:04.640
He literally told me like, I don't want therapy.
00:48:09.380
And then like, he feels sorry, blah, blah, blah.
00:48:13.080
Um, this idea that like what you witnessed as a child with your parents relationship dynamic
00:48:18.980
means that you are going to be compelled to chase after or engage in similar relationships.
00:48:25.740
This is why I'm kind of like psychology is not a science because for example, you could
00:48:31.940
have a father who's an alcoholic and that could either lead you in two different
00:48:36.960
paths, it could either lead you to not drinking at all because you witnessed it or you too
00:48:43.640
So that's why I question like psychology because like you have the same, you could take two
00:48:49.660
people with alcoholic fathers and one of them, as I just said, swears off drinking entirely
00:49:00.660
Like my sister, like she's, I mean, obviously I don't drink at all because of my dad and
00:49:05.620
My sister, like obviously we're very different.
00:49:10.620
Um, she didn't actually like, she has a healthy relationship and stuff like that.
00:49:15.340
Um, obviously she didn't like end up with an alcoholic, you know, she got married.
00:49:21.600
So, but so he's kind of thrown your, he threw your makeup out the window.
00:49:28.800
Your boy, your ex-boyfriend who drove you here today.
00:49:31.080
But, um, you know, like I have my other relationships weren't like that though.
00:49:37.780
How long did those last compared to the toxic one?
00:49:40.940
Well, like I said before, I was raised Christian.
00:49:42.440
So all my relationship last two years, like two years, a year, six months.
00:49:49.040
Like I have, you know, my hidden myths, like I'm really in the middle with things.
00:49:55.060
Is this toxic relationship your longest relationship you've ever had?
00:49:58.620
Um, no, uh, my first ever relationship was like three years.
00:50:09.340
But like, you know, for me, like, I believe like, what's the point of a toxic relationship
00:50:14.840
when the person is just going to weigh you down?
00:50:17.540
Like, don't you want someone to kind of uplift you up?
00:50:20.620
It's kind of like, I, for me, I envision, um, you're a person, right?
00:50:25.580
Doing, to kind of grow and build your life together with them and not like, should I say
00:50:31.900
Like you don't want, someone's going to hurt your future.
00:50:41.380
If there's a good masculine man, I don't think they're boring.
00:50:44.800
But if given the choice, if given the choice between like a good guy who's like.
00:50:51.780
If you want like a good, healthy marriage and the husband and a family in the end, you
00:50:55.600
have to kind of know that you don't want the toxic relationship.
00:50:58.880
I don't think anyone wants like a toxic relationship.
00:51:04.440
Like no one wants to settle down with a toxic man or woman.
00:51:07.680
See, I think women just have a problem where they think they can fix and change a guy though.
00:51:12.520
There is a guy that comes in who's super toxic, but you're like, no, I can fix him.
00:51:19.280
It's going to come down to the guy's choice, which I mean, and for your sake, like, I'm
00:51:27.740
And it's like us women also have to be strong enough to leave those situations and know
00:51:35.540
Because if you do want to find, you know, a good guy that's going to support you, going
00:51:41.300
I mean, stability is not going to come with toxicity.
00:51:44.060
And I'm not saying toxic masculinity, because I also don't think toxic masculinity exists.
00:51:51.400
And if he has toxic behavior, then that's not healthy for you.
00:51:54.860
And I feel like a lot of just people with toxic behavior, like that lead into very toxic relationships
00:52:06.140
I'm just curious, like why you broke up with him.
00:52:11.160
I mean, typically the best MO after a breakup for the breakup to actually work is you can
00:52:19.720
I was going to ask if just like you hanging out with him still, do you feel like that
00:52:24.060
interferes with your path to, I guess, focusing on yourself?
00:52:30.900
But I feel like how I see kind of like an addiction, because I feel like that's what
00:52:39.660
You know, you can't just leave a vape and just cold turkey.
00:52:42.320
Some people can do that, but some people can't.
00:52:44.220
They have to be like, okay, I'm not going to vape.
00:52:57.200
Are you saying you need to taper off your toxic, abusive ex?
00:53:07.380
I think everybody like deals with it differently, you know?
00:53:11.580
I do think that a lot of people deal with it differently.
00:53:13.840
Like this is definitely not the first time that I've heard about a situation like this.
00:53:19.060
And like I said earlier, like it's really hard to leave a toxic relationship.
00:53:23.420
And a lot of people don't know because they're not in one.
00:53:35.600
Like trauma bonding is like, I feel like it's real and like it's hard.
00:53:46.260
You mentioned that he threw some makeup out of the window.
00:53:51.700
You said he threw the makeup out the window and he, did he break your phone or he just,
00:54:03.040
Are those the only two things he did or was there more?
00:54:10.280
So it was just like throwing things, breaking property, but he never laid hands on you.
00:54:14.280
I think verbal was like one of like, for me, verbal is, you know, that's worse than
00:54:21.320
You know, like I feel like, cause it's like, it's like, you know, psychology wise, like
00:54:28.060
Like, um, I don't think anybody should go through this and that's why I like, I kind
00:54:35.660
Um, when people insult you with your insecurities, like if someone like, what's an example of
00:54:45.140
Um, he would attack like insecurities of mine that I like, um, told them to protect, you
00:54:52.100
Like for example, like, Oh, nobody's going to like you because you do this and this and
00:54:55.880
Um, like things that like, obviously he knows that I'm insecure about what do you do?
00:55:00.020
Um, like for example, like you play, you collect Pokemon cards.
00:55:09.480
Oh, like, um, Oh, I'm going to go and what did he say one time?
00:55:15.260
He's like, Oh, like, I'm not going to, um, next girl that I'm going to get, she's going
00:55:20.320
to have a big ass and stuff like that, you know?
00:55:22.540
Cause he knows I'm insecure about my body, you know?
00:55:24.360
Like, you know, my whole life they call me skinny and stuff like that.
00:55:34.880
It's like, I don't think, you know, nobody should deal with that.
00:55:40.320
He's not, he's not the one to protect, you know, that's what a man should do.
00:55:43.740
Like, you know, like be there to like protect, protect, you know, it's a protector.
00:55:48.220
Are there any other examples of anything he said that was insensitive or mean?
00:55:53.040
Whenever he doesn't get his way, he's like slut ho, like just like kind of like insulting
00:55:59.400
And I'm like, so what makes you still want to hang out with him then?
00:56:05.760
Oh, well like, you know, like convenience just cause like he's there and you know that
00:56:10.800
Like, do you feel like you're still getting, it's almost like negative attention from him
00:56:15.160
Like, even if he's saying something that you do want to hear, but you know that he's bad.
00:56:20.560
It's about like, cause when I came to LA, he was the one that was there for me the whole
00:56:26.580
And nobody, obviously I didn't know anybody in LA.
00:56:29.540
Um, and then that kind of, you know, kind of gives that bond of like, oh, like he's been
00:57:01.420
I don't think he's like a fetish and you just don't know this.
00:57:04.100
He kind of just, I guess, picks on you because he's older.
00:57:10.980
Like a lot of men that, or just women in general, when they're feeling insecure, I feel like
00:57:14.480
they attack you because, you know, they feel like they're not good enough.
00:57:17.700
You know, like maybe he feels like he's 33 and he, he's not where he wants to be in
00:57:21.600
And that's why he insults me because he sees that.
00:57:27.820
I mean, like what he's doing is a hundred percent wrong, but I was almost anticipating this would
00:57:33.280
be like a younger guy, like it seems like kind of an immature thing, like very, but
00:57:37.820
I feel like, okay, well, uh, if he is watching this show, that's going to be an awkward ass
00:57:50.500
You, like you guys are, I'm about to make a podcast just to like say all this stuff
00:57:56.040
that you eventually want to kind of just like cut ties with him.
00:58:01.300
Cause you're right now you're like weaning off, right?
00:58:05.920
I don't want to, I want to stop seeing him now.
00:58:09.840
The tape, the taper thing was this like a methadone clinic.
00:58:13.780
You got to fucking, okay, I'm going to go from four days a week to three days a week to
00:58:21.860
Babe, I just broke up with you, but can you please still be my support while going through
00:58:26.380
the breakup that I was like, obviously I relapse, you know, like I, it's hard.
00:58:36.220
This is why she has her, she needs a therapist, right?
00:58:39.920
Cause she has mental illnesses because of this guy.
00:58:57.560
I guess you just have to appear on the whatever podcast more.
00:59:01.100
I want an update and you have to come back in two weeks.
00:59:11.020
Morgan, you had something there before I had to make the method.
00:59:13.540
I just want to know, like, okay, you're, you're weaning off.
00:59:17.080
When do you, in your mind want to be like, all right, now we're done.
00:59:21.280
Because I feel like you're just instigating not only his own feelings of, you know, maybe
00:59:24.860
we'll get back together if he does want to get back together with you, but also your
00:59:27.980
own feelings of you're not actually going to be able to work past him if you're still
00:59:31.700
So when is that like timeframe of like, okay, it's been two months.
00:59:37.220
Like, obviously, like, I hope that if I work with a therapist or like, I know I have support
00:59:41.480
with my friends, but you know, it's not the same.
00:59:43.820
It's not the same when you're your friends, your friends are not going to be there all
00:59:50.380
It's just so hard what I obviously been through, but at the same time, it's like when nobody's
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there, like obviously he's there, you know, I understand that that's not okay.
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But I feel like now that I'm working on myself now, like I'm working myself more than I have,
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you know, progress, you know, I'm going to the gym.
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Like there's like a little later on, you have to learn how to like, not depend on him.
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It's just like, for me, it's a lot of patience.
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You know, I'm going to do a poll in the YouTube chat and the poll is going to ask, does she
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Um, I don't know if I've been this befuddled, but I just don't understand why you don't
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Cause like, if you look at every relationship, even if the guy is in control, if a woman decides
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to leave, she can leave and the guy can chase and chase and chase, but women hold the control,
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whether it's, you want to sleep with a guy, you're the one that says no or yes.
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You know, if you want to date the guy, you're the one that says no or yes.
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So really women do have the control in that situation.
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You need to tune in every Sunday and Tuesday, 5 PM.
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She needs to learn how to be able to function by yourself.
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To be a strong, independent woman, you have to know how to function by yourself.
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I encourage you to go out, find some new friends, you know, find some new guy friends.
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I'm really proud of that, but I can't, you know, like she needs some help.
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You know, like you can't, you can, you have the capacity to be independent.
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And I think women also need to be independent with themselves before going into relationships.
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And a man also has to be mature and independent with himself.
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So when you come together, you actually make a good harmonious unit.
01:02:15.040
So you've listed a couple of things about your boyfriend kind of being toxic, doing some
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If you had to say, what is, what are one, two, or even three things that you did wrong
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I think what I did wrong is not give him enough space to him being independent and like just
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Like, for example, like I too clingy like that.
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So for example, I told him to live with me for three months rent free for him to save
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And I think that's part of the mistake that I made.
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So you were, were you 21, 20 when he moved in with you?
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Brian, talk about how I saved you from that house fire.
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I actually had a situation ship with a crypto guy that was 23 years old before.
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So I broke up with my boyfriend and I had a situation ship.
01:04:23.800
That doesn't make you any more attractive just like women do not like Mr. Nice Guy.
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Because Elizabeth said she's strong and independent.
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Nice guys with 11 million followers on TikTok and 1.5 million followers on Instagram that
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live in Germany and are definitely, definitely not loyal to you and sleeping with other men.
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You haven't tied into any other guy in your entire life.
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You just don't understand because the thing is, my parents, like I said, I think my mom,
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So this is why I'm still keeping strong to my religion.
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And this is why I only see one guy as like, you know what I mean?
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One guy as in your soulmate to remember I mentioned that last time.
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Did you ever date an ice skater dude or are they all gay?
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I noticed guys, they have a crush on me, but like I said, I don't give them attention.
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Is this the first guy you've ever like talked to in your entire life?
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Because it's so, I mentioned too last time, it's very easy for me to friend zone people
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because I don't see that initial connection right away.
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Or there's something that bothers me to make, to decide for them to be a friend.
01:06:18.780
Nick, can you pull up the pop-up chat and put it over to the window tab and pull up the
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We'll show it and then I'll pull it up, show it on the Twitch tab.
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So pull up the Twitch tab and then we'll pull up the Twitch tab.
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We'll show the results of the poll, which we took about, is she going to get back?
01:07:03.340
Let me shout out the Twitch people really quick.
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Yo, Mac, Zach, think for the 10 community subs or the gifted...
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They think you're going to get back together with your toxic ex-boyfriend who moved in.
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You know, I let him for three months and he didn't save money at all.
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Like, he didn't buy a car until, like, this year.
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Like, where you can make a lot of money from it, though?
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I mean, he's been working in that, like, for two years.
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It's normal, but, like, the fact that, like, he told me, like, not to do some stuff and
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I'm like, okay, then get a better job if you don't want me to, like.
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Like, he told me, like, oh, like, you shouldn't, like, do this, blah, blah, blah.
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And I'm like, okay, then get a better job for me not to do that.
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Like, content on the internet, you know what I'm saying?
01:09:08.240
Yeah, he did pay for groceries, but I feel like, for me, like, it wasn't enough.
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Like, I was struggling and I feel like, you know, I was struggling a year ago.
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And he didn't really do anything to actually better his life.
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I have, you know, a better job now than I had a year ago.
01:09:30.740
And he's still kind of in the same position of, like, you know, right now he lives at
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I feel like someone like that is just kind of, like, holding you back, you know?
01:09:39.720
Like, you obviously, you know you have the potential to get a better job, focus on yourself,
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get a better life than you did have, like, what did you say, a year or two ago?
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Like, you know you have the potential to do that.
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Because he's been the same person he has for the entire time that he's known you.
01:10:00.680
From the beginning, what actually attracted you to him?
01:10:02.820
Because it sounds like, yeah, like Maddie said, like, he's had, like, a track record
01:10:07.540
Okay, he moved into you rent, with you rent free.
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So what actually made you want to stay with him, like, three months in?
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Because I feel like us women, you know, we have our boxes, our checklist boxes when we're
01:10:24.400
What red flags were you really missing from the job?
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Well, we met as a, we did a commercial together.
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We really had the vibes of, like, you know, like, the humor and stuff like that.
01:10:39.460
We really got along with what we did, you know, because we were both actors.
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Just, you know, it was cool to, like, have somebody, like, to relate to and everything
01:10:58.380
I mean, especially when you're first meeting someone, you don't really know who they are
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Even in, like, you can get into a relationship with someone.
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We need to go to Morgan and then we'll go to Madison.
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I've been in a couple of relationships, but, yeah, I've been single for six months.
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So, my relationship before that was a couple of months.
01:11:33.800
And that was my first, I would say, like, grown-up relationship.
01:11:37.800
Like, waiting until marriage, you know, practicing just religion is, like, really important to me.
01:11:43.820
And then my longest relationship has been six months.
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Like, I've been asked to go on dates, but I've respectfully declined because I'm right now focusing on my relationship with God, which that's really important to me.
01:12:00.900
And I want to be, like, I want to be whole, you know, have my reading down, my journaling down, be in the Word, and be 100%, like, plugged in.
01:12:09.580
I'm serving at my church and stuff like that before I can, you know, fully do that, which, I mean, I plan to be in a relationship, right, in, like, a year.
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I feel like, you know, somebody's going to come to you.
01:12:28.380
Right, but if a guy says to me, and I feel like it's right, then I'll go on a date, yeah.
01:12:47.600
Oh, well, yeah, men have to work on themselves to attract women.
01:12:54.000
Well, the guys have to initiate, generally speaking.
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So, like, a guy can't just be like, a girl will come to me.
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I think the guy definitely searches more than the girl.
01:13:09.060
Well, because the guy will have to ask the girl on a date, take her out, and whatnot.
01:13:12.760
But I think for women, it's honestly, in a sense, easier.
01:13:18.260
But also, when it gets to the point where I'm like, you know, I'll probably be in a
01:13:31.500
I'm sure you could bring girls to the show, too.
01:13:39.760
I mean, it's unfortunate because it wasn't just flaking.
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So flaking would be the day before, hey, sorry, can't make it.
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No show is, I checked in with them the night before, we're going to be there.
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No, hey, we're not going to make it, just not showing up.
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Which is super rude because I don't like, if someone flakes in under 24 hours, I don't
01:14:04.760
like that either because it's hard to get people last minute.
01:14:08.560
But if someone just no shows, they're basically just locking in three seats.
01:14:15.400
So, yeah, as far as real Nat, I'm sure he could bring girls on the show, too.
01:14:20.540
So I've had some really bad experiences with guys who are like, oh, give me, because we
01:14:27.920
And they're like, oh, well, one of the things we used to do is like, can you bring some girls?
01:15:06.220
Okay, can someone explain to me what 304s mean?
01:15:16.280
But no, we invited, we've invited, there was this dude who came on an episode and he
01:15:21.060
was like, he literally took up the entire booking.
01:15:23.740
He booked seven girls and he showed up with like two.
01:15:36.120
You want to, and also we, oh, the other thing when it comes to guys, look, I know a lot,
01:15:40.720
maybe some of you watching have reached out wanting to be on the show.
01:15:43.940
The reality is, guys, is we've given a lot of normal guys the opportunity to be on the
01:15:50.080
show, even some normal women to be on the show.
01:15:52.280
Well, it's different with the women, but, and a lot of guys are like, oh, let me be on
01:16:01.960
And they come on the show and they're sitting in front of 3000 people.
01:16:07.080
They're sitting across from people who probably disagree with them and they fucking choke.
01:16:13.580
They don't, they detract from the conversation.
01:16:17.380
So as when it comes to the guys, so I'm getting fucking worked up because I'm like, I've had
01:16:29.320
And then when it comes down to the being on the show, they fucking choke and they waste
01:16:34.160
a seat and they sit there fucking nodding their fucking head.
01:16:45.800
It's just like, it's very easy from the comfort behind your screen to be like, oh, I would,
01:16:54.420
But in the moment, in person, it's a lot harder.
01:17:03.960
You didn't say much during your appearance, but I appreciate your support, man.
01:17:08.380
But, and then listen, Brandon, there's, there were a lot of guys who been on the show.
01:17:15.380
I'm not trying to call you out, but like, it has been our experience when we invite dudes
01:17:21.560
That's why, like, I'm very, very picky with the guys we invite on.
01:17:25.520
Typically they have to like have some proven track record of public speaking, content creation,
01:17:30.860
doing something with public speaking, because again, a lot of guys, it's, I was this way
01:17:38.900
Like, it's very easy from the comfort of your home, watching the stream.
01:17:42.920
Oh, I would respond to, I would say this when they say this.
01:18:01.140
Well, would you girls 18 to early twenties be attracted to a 40 year old high value man?
01:18:50.380
I've been, I've actually dated somebody that was 45.
01:19:00.480
Had a lot of fun dating him, but it just didn't work out.
01:19:46.940
I'm preempting because there's another super chat about to come in here.
01:20:00.580
I will become the best debater the world has ever seen.
01:20:08.080
Yo, one in the chat if you want Brandon to come back on the show.
01:20:11.740
One in the chat if you want Brandon back on the show.
01:20:28.840
Yeah, I see people saying like I'm their girlfriend too.
01:20:31.440
Brandon was on the show, what, three weeks back?
01:20:45.980
I think some of the people are thinking like old school Brandon with the face tats.
01:21:14.340
If you guys don't think it's real, then that's your, that's your opinions.
01:21:18.560
Like I know what's in my head and I know what's, what I have.
01:21:21.460
No, I don't think they're claiming that it's like.
01:21:25.580
If you're saying it's imaginary, I think it's like.
01:22:38.000
Stochastic Decay thinks you should bring back Brandon and add Puffy Vegas with all his
01:23:08.260
Ladies, would you rather have an average man who's your height and is monogamous or a great
01:23:12.880
man who's above six feet but isn't monogamous but expects you to be?
01:23:24.460
Ladies, would you rather have an average man who's your height and is monogamous or a
01:23:28.320
great man who's above six feet but isn't monogamous?
01:23:31.120
An average man that's my height and is monogamous.
01:23:33.980
Yeah, the average man who's monogamous, not monogamy.
01:23:41.500
I will never understand why beautiful women go for losers.
01:23:45.200
One day you will look back on the time you spent with this guy and realize how you wasted
01:23:49.600
years of your life when there are legitimately good men out there.
01:24:00.500
So, like, let's say a great guy tomorrow asks you out on a date.
01:24:06.180
Is your toxic ex-boyfriend going to drive you to the date?
01:24:25.240
The entire car ride, was he, like, trying to talk you back into taking him back?
01:24:34.540
Did he throw that out the window on the highway?
01:24:37.800
He threw out the window and then he, like, bought them back.
01:24:39.900
But I know, like, it's not the same, like, obviously.
01:24:42.120
Can I have you just tilt your mic a little bit that way?
01:24:45.840
Whenever you guys hang out, does he initiate the hangout or do you...
01:24:53.180
Bro, you gotta go cold turkey on the way to hit.
01:25:03.700
I'm like, wow, like, one more hard thing, you know?
01:25:25.760
Well, I said before he lives at his dad's house, so...
01:25:31.360
He has slept over at your place since you've broken up.
01:26:03.380
And I asked, in the two months, have you hooked up with him?
01:26:09.600
Like, it's something that's, like, really, like, personal, you know?
01:26:12.580
So how are you supposed to move on if you're continuing?
01:26:23.500
I mean, if you're still sleeping together, then are you actually broken up?
01:26:29.320
I think, honestly, if you're still seeing each other to a certain extent, you're not
01:26:33.400
completely broken up because the way that he constantly will ask you to hang out, he
01:26:39.700
Which gives him the message that one day that you're going to go back to him.
01:26:44.020
So when's the most recent time you guys hooked up?
01:26:59.320
Like, I have, like, this thing where I'm really scared of, like, you know...
01:27:05.180
Dude, I think I'm too hyped on fucking caffeine right now.
01:27:20.600
So, like, there may or may not be, like, performance-enhancing drugs in there, but, like, PEDs, like, if I tried to, like, do a race or some shit, like, they'd probably...
01:27:32.360
I'd probably get pinged for, like, you know, the juice.
01:27:35.940
So, Morgan, were you on the show where I was like, hmm, I don't want to pay for first dates?
01:28:02.680
There's a bug that went into our, like, extremely hot lights.
01:28:18.540
You can't stop talking about certain preferred subjects.
01:28:22.420
Elizabeth, feel like I've seen you at Javier's.
01:28:31.720
Bro, that dragonfly is actually, like, special.
01:29:05.480
Brian, you'd be such a good hype man if one of your friends were in a fight.
01:29:57.280
We're, I don't know where the fuck we're going.
01:30:03.760
He says he's autistic, so he can't be a guest on the show.
01:30:08.920
Hey, that doesn't prevent me from being on the show, son.
01:30:18.940
Can't stop talking about certain preferred subjects.
01:30:20.360
Elizabeth, feel like I've seen you at Javier's, not once, but can you outskate Kim?
01:30:54.020
Wait, so Morgan, were you on the show where we were talking about me not wanting to pay
01:30:59.960
I think it was mentioned, but I know Alex was on that show.
01:31:05.520
Well, so one of the arguments I make when it comes to not paying for the first dates
01:31:14.420
Like a girl could say she's single, but she'd be fucking her ex-boyfriend.
01:31:20.220
A guy could say he's single and sleeping with his ex-boyfriend.
01:31:26.120
Right, but I mean, you don't have to spend $100 on a first date, $200.
01:31:34.180
If I was on a first date with Amber and because you said you hooked up with your, you said you've
01:31:44.600
You're still cuddling with your toxic ex-boyfriend and you slept with them yesterday.
01:31:57.880
Because the thing is, I wouldn't want to do that to somebody.
01:32:00.520
I'm not that person that's going to be like going on a date to see if like.
01:32:14.100
This is one of the reasons why I don't think dudes should be paying for first dates.
01:32:19.560
Because if I was on a date with you and it's like, yeah, I fucked my ex yesterday.
01:32:24.480
You spent five bucks on a cup of coffee and, you know, you end it after five dollars on
01:32:32.100
Like, if a guy finds something out and that's a major red flag, like, leave the date.
01:32:36.680
You're not bound by two hours sitting at a dinner table.
01:33:56.060
Somebody donated money and they said, like, they called you hot.
01:34:17.640
Brian, what would you rate him on a scale of one to ten?
01:34:55.620
You want us to pull up his Instagram right now?
01:35:06.660
They donated the money and they said, oh, like, watch out, guys.
01:35:28.560
You're single, but you're tapering, but you fucked him last night.
01:35:36.420
I don't think he thinks you guys are single yet.
01:35:48.140
I don't think so because I feel like I need to be emotionally detached from somebody and
01:35:53.460
like fully like, hey, like, I don't want to be with you anymore to actually see myself
01:36:00.800
You're supposed to emotionally detach, though, if you're still sleeping with him.
01:36:14.080
Was it the same day he threw your makeup and your phone?
01:36:30.980
He threw like your stock, your entire stock out or just some of it.
01:36:38.580
I think it was like, like my highlighter, like my bronzer.
01:37:18.800
I was talking if you guys fuck, not throw fisticuffs.
01:37:39.340
You only have that if you're in a toxic relationship.
01:37:48.660
How often do you and your sort of kind of not really, but sort of boyfriend.
01:37:58.160
Well, when you're single or when you're in a relationship.
01:38:06.360
But is it because your partner doesn't initiate?
01:38:08.920
No, it's because of like, for example, like my current relationship.
01:38:14.900
Like if he does something to me, like I'm not attracted to somebody like that.
01:38:20.620
But it's probably because I'm like confusing me right now, to be honest.
01:38:47.840
I think if you curse in the TTS, guys, it won't trigger.
01:38:56.920
You need to come on this podcast every two weeks for your therapy session.
01:39:03.660
You can call me Dr. Brian, and I will try to help you.
01:39:15.480
And physically, because, I mean, the more you're sleeping with him.
01:39:18.940
It's just like, you know, like, it's just so hard for me.
01:39:25.180
So, I think the more you sleep with someone, the more emotionally attached you're going
01:39:30.080
So, I think maybe just start off with not sleeping with him.
01:39:33.360
You go three months without fucking your boyfriend?
01:39:36.340
That is, first off, that's grounds for a breakup.
01:39:41.100
Or you just don't sleep with them until you marry.
01:39:44.380
You're married, and then it's not an issue because you're committed to that person, and
01:39:52.000
you know you're committed to that person forever because then when you sleep with them, it clouds
01:39:58.740
Did you miss the part, Morgan, where Amber said that she was a Satanist before the show?
01:40:32.000
See, but look, this goes back to what I was saying is women have the powers.
01:40:34.560
If you decided to stop sleeping with him, then he would still try and get you back, but you
01:40:40.120
And that's why I think, you know, even in hookup culture, women need to say, no, I'm not going
01:40:44.900
Because I think hookup culture wouldn't be a problem if women just decided to, you know
01:40:48.520
what, actually, I am going to treat my body with respect, and I'm not going to hook up
01:40:54.560
I'm not going to hook up with you two weeks into the relationship, three months into the
01:40:58.460
Like, ladies need to hold out for it until, you know, and if, you know, I think you should
01:41:13.000
I'm just saying, like, I thought that too, but, oh my gosh, like, size matters.
01:41:26.180
I know why you're, I know why you're hung up on your toxic ex.
01:41:44.860
Like, it's just, like, I've had before, like, you know, smaller than five.
01:41:51.480
I've had experience, and I don't think it matters.
01:41:54.540
I understand, like, when you love somebody, like, it doesn't matter and stuff like that,
01:41:56.860
but, like, as the little relationship goes on, I'm like, dang.
01:42:00.780
But don't you think that intimacy is something that should be learned between a man and a
01:42:04.080
woman, and that you can learn what each other likes?
01:42:06.420
Like, that's the beauty of intimacy with somebody.
01:42:08.460
Yeah, like, it's really different, like, with, you know, obviously Christianity, like,
01:42:13.840
Like, you know, when people, two people love God, you know, that's first.
01:42:17.280
And then the relationship, it's like a foundation.
01:42:18.960
But, I mean, sexual intimacy is still a huge part of, like, the marriage.
01:42:23.520
Like, I don't think a woman should ever withhold sex from their husband because, like, then
01:42:27.360
why would you put your husband in that situation of, like, withholding sex from them?
01:42:30.820
But when it comes to, like, size, like, that's something that I think is learned together.
01:42:35.100
What happens if you, like, date for marriage, and then you find out, and then you don't
01:42:45.380
Like, obviously, you cry so much, and, like, you don't like it.
01:42:50.680
But if you're waiting until marriage, like, you're probably at least somewhat religious.
01:42:56.880
So, like, till death do us part in sickness and in health.
01:43:01.620
Well, the thing is, like, I feel like sex is different to people that are religious.
01:43:09.600
Like, if God, if God intends you, intends for you to marry a guy with a micro penis, like,
01:43:17.360
Well, I also think this also begs the question.
01:43:32.720
I'm going to open this up to the other girls here.
01:43:48.140
The thing is, like, I think I saw something, you know, it is true, like, it depends how
01:43:52.740
I think, you know, like, he could have a, you know, a micro, whatever, and then he knows
01:44:03.680
Like, it goes back to, like, I still have, like, you know, religious beliefs of, like,
01:44:11.960
Like, I kind of want to go back one day to that.
01:44:18.060
I think, for me right now, I'm, like, doing stuff that, like, obviously is not okay, you
01:44:31.120
You know, I think it's just, like, a whole, like, I need to actually be super into, like,
01:44:39.920
Like, and for me, like, I don't think I'm 100% there yet, you know?
01:44:43.640
But also, I think God can find us in our lowest places.
01:44:46.460
But you can get into those dark places, and that's when you can come to Christ.
01:44:50.020
Speaking of low and dark places, her boyfriend has a giant fucking dick.
01:45:01.640
Okay, well, Brian, you always say, like, you know, body count mattering, experience, and
01:45:06.920
Like, you want a virgin, I think, you know, lower body count is better, so then, but then
01:45:13.220
sexual experience, that's what, going back to, like, does size matter?
01:45:17.000
No, because I don't even, like, body count matters to the extent, because then you can
01:45:27.300
So then, like, I'd argue a virgin could be equal to, like, you know, maybe a smaller size,
01:45:32.520
because, you know, if they're a virgin, they don't know what they're doing in, like, societal
01:45:37.400
A guy who has a smaller thing, you know, may know how to whatever, but if a guy's a virgin,
01:45:42.260
he's never done it before, so you still have to learn that intimacy in the same way that
01:45:45.220
if, you know, you have slept with somebody, and you're working together in that relationship.
01:45:49.840
Like, if the person really wants to, like, really loves that person, they will work hard to,
01:46:03.580
I mean, you're right, you know, like, I don't think it matters.
01:46:06.260
I think it's absolutely fine for you to have a genitalia preference, because it happens
01:46:11.680
to be the case that I've got a genitalia preference.
01:46:37.620
Would you girls, 18 to early 20s, be attracted to a high-value man?
01:46:43.100
How much is an age of 10 to 15 years a factor in considering a relationship?
01:46:47.700
Personally, I like to date men kind of around my age, within five years older, I would say,
01:46:58.140
because I'm kind of on the same page as them, in a way.
01:47:04.520
I feel like if I were to date an older man, they'd have more, they'd just, like, want
01:47:10.120
to settle down faster than I do, or they want to do things more than I do, because you're
01:47:13.700
older, you know, like, you're just on different wavelengths of life.
01:47:18.420
Well, there's maturity differences, developmental differences.
01:47:21.100
You also have to think about, you know, if you're 60, when you're older, and you're dating
01:47:24.380
someone who's 80, well, if that person passes away, you know, you have time to live, that
01:47:29.340
they're not going to be there with you and your support.
01:47:31.260
And, you know, I'm not opposed to, you know, if you want to date someone older than you,
01:47:35.340
I, like, I think my limit, I'm 24, my limit would probably be, at this point, 28, so four
01:47:40.140
years older, because I think it is important, like, when you are building a life with somebody,
01:47:44.220
you know, men do develop emotionally a little bit later, maturity level a little bit later,
01:47:51.780
And then it gets to the point, you know, if they're old enough to be your dad, that's,
01:47:56.020
you know, it's like, where is their head up to?
01:47:58.300
So, yeah, I think it just depends, like, on the person, like, I could see that.
01:48:01.520
Like, if, if you're more mature, then you would want probably an older guy, you know,
01:48:06.020
to match with your level, but if you're not on the same page, I guess you would know when
01:48:12.000
you talk to someone, you see their common ground, yeah.
01:48:20.700
A lot of older women can be very, very immature.
01:48:24.280
I think for me, it was always just, because I've tried to date guys that were either younger
01:48:28.440
or, like, within the same age group, and it's just, I feel like I was always at such
01:48:31.800
a different level, because I had the party phase.
01:48:35.440
And I, when I started dating guys that were a little bit older than me, I was like, okay,
01:48:38.460
like, because, like, I'm at the point in my life, I'm going to be honest with you,
01:48:40.420
if I met someone that, you know, provided for me and gave me, you know, we had a good
01:48:44.880
relationship, a healthy relationship, I would definitely settle down.
01:48:57.200
What's your age, or your dating age preference?
01:49:19.880
I'm thinking of becoming, what's the male version of a nun?
01:49:52.140
You're going to save yourself for Jesus forever?
01:50:03.940
Do you think, like, he would, like, have a wife?
01:50:06.820
Like, he comes back and have a wife, you think?
01:50:18.860
There's a lot of things that have been coming true in Revelation lately.
01:50:28.220
Would you be in line to, like, slide in his DMs?
01:50:38.540
Like, when you know, when you, like, say, like, oh, who would you want to eat dinner with?
01:50:42.580
Or, like, if you could go back in time, where would you go?
01:50:48.160
We're going to ask the girls if, like, Jesus is your type.
01:51:07.720
So, ladies, is, like, would you, would you, are you, like, DTF for Jesus?
01:51:15.000
Like, are you down for, is this, did he really look like that?
01:51:18.760
That one on the right corner, that white one right there, that looks like.
01:51:24.980
Well, Jesus is also a real man, but that's, like, like, a modern man acting like Jesus.
01:51:38.260
You know, the guy from The Chosen, is that what you're saying?
01:51:40.440
The guy, the guy from, uh, Passion of the Christ.
01:52:30.860
I mean, Jesus Christ was the strongest man to ever live.
01:52:42.460
Um, can you also just, really quick, Jesus the walking dead?
01:52:53.340
Bro, we need to get you some typing classes, Nick.
01:53:07.020
God, I'm always bringing in the conversations to learn classes.
01:53:15.140
Never even went around the table, I don't think, with the.
01:53:41.780
It's almost like, he looks like a bum in front of me.
01:54:19.180
The Dragonfly was in therapy, but the therapist wasn't able to talk about it.
01:54:36.500
So wait, we didn't go all the way around on relation.
01:54:45.720
My longest relationship is my current relationship.
01:55:06.800
And I felt, I felt bad when during the, uh, our last podcast with the American Gladiators
01:55:19.440
I was like, Frankie, I, I didn't say anything, but like, I was, I was like, man, that's kind
01:55:25.480
And I was like, no, Frankie, I was going to, in my head, I was like, Frankie's a really
01:55:29.300
And like, I actually do think that you guys are going to go the distance.
01:55:31.780
So, I think congratulations on your, I wish you guys the best.
01:55:37.480
He wear, you know, the shorts that you gave him, he, he's been wearing them for like five
01:55:47.940
Oh, shout out to mentality for sending us a bunch of, uh, merch.
01:55:56.360
I know we kind of lingered on the relationship status stuff for a while and I will, I will
01:56:03.020
Um, I actually want to come back to you really quick.
01:56:13.840
I had like, I would date casually, but I also wanted to clarify when I did that.
01:56:17.940
Um, I will not sleep with you unless I know for a fact that we are like, we make this
01:56:23.860
like communication that we are only sleeping with each other and yeah, that's good.
01:56:28.440
Just cause like, I don't, I don't do hookup culture.
01:56:37.700
Not a one night stand, but the same day or night you met him?
01:57:12.340
But, but so, uh, when's the last time you were involved with a guy, whether it was relationship
01:57:20.580
I ended things like it was like a year long situation ship.
01:57:23.780
And it wasn't, it was such a weird relationship because I even hate saying that word.
01:57:33.820
And it was one of those things where I honestly was just, I'm going to be honest.
01:57:38.520
I was just because like he would feed me certain things and it was like the whole, he was insecure
01:57:44.120
to be with me because of what, one, what I do for work.
01:58:15.460
And like, I think he also, I'm going to be honest with you, like on Twitch.
01:58:23.220
Um, so if you know, I'm sure, you know, streaming, most of your income comes from donations and whatever.
01:58:31.280
I think, can you, you need to scoot your mic, like scoot it to the very end of the table.
01:58:42.540
He had an issue with the Twitch streaming, but you don't do OnlyFans.
01:58:55.340
Cause I'm saying, I don't do any of like the exclusive content that most people do.
01:58:58.680
So I was like, I feel like I'm PG if anything compared to what other people do these days.
01:59:05.420
And then I finally told them, I was like, look, I'm going to be honest with you.
01:59:14.780
Like I've only seen him like twice since I was here.
01:59:25.880
I'm born and raised from LA, but during the pandemic, I moved to San Diego.
01:59:39.540
So again, it was me kind of, it was a one-sided relationship.
01:59:44.440
Because I'm sure in his head, I'm, I'm almost positive.
01:59:51.000
It's just kind of blocking your face a little bit.
01:59:54.880
Um, but I feel like it was one-sided just because like I said,
01:59:58.220
I literally ended things and three weeks later, I saw he was posting another girl already
02:00:03.840
and like they're in a relationship, like they're in a full-blown relationship.
02:00:07.320
She lives all the way up North and he lives out here and he flies her out.
02:00:12.140
And when he used to tell me like, yeah, hours too far and hours too far.
02:00:16.540
So when you say it's one-sided, it was one-sided on my end.
02:00:20.860
Like, so you were giving more or he was giving, I was giving, she was giving.
02:00:28.740
We, we were in the beginning when we, when we, um, like the first six months of the
02:00:32.200
situation ship, he would come see me, um, every now and then we-
02:00:40.360
We would literally go on dates and we would go to like, we would go to like Nobu.
02:00:43.340
We would go, you know, to like just little stuff like that.
02:00:46.380
Like, and it was like, it wasn't, it was very nice.
02:00:48.480
You know, I'm a captain, you all left ten and donated one hundred and one dollars.
02:00:56.640
Were there any obvious signs you missed but you realized after in hindsight?
02:01:06.520
So he started, so like I said, we weren't really, I'm going to be honest, like I'm not a sexual
02:01:11.620
When I was younger, I was like, you know, it was my first relationship and it wasn't, you
02:01:15.660
know, it was just like a typical, like, you know, I didn't know any better.
02:01:19.660
And when we first moved in together, we only lived together for a year.
02:01:23.680
I was cleaning his laundry and I opened one of his drawers and I saw a bunch of fucking
02:01:28.140
sex toys and I was like, okay, seriously, one, we don't use them.
02:01:36.520
I swear, full on, like male lingerie, everything.
02:01:42.800
I confronted him and I was like, male lingerie, male, like a dog strap, like a, yeah, like velvet
02:01:48.440
I don't, I was like, whoa, like my mind was blown and keep in mind, I was probably like
02:01:54.280
So then you asked him and I asked him and he says, oh, I just, I have like a dark side
02:01:58.460
Like, I like to be a little freaky and I was scared to ask you.
02:02:01.060
Like, he was just like scared to almost like, like I thought in my mind, he was scared to
02:02:05.760
ask me to do like things in the bedroom that we weren't normally doing.
02:02:11.080
And we slept together a year into our relationship.
02:02:15.840
So you waited a year, moved in together, found this two years later.
02:02:46.460
Well, like, in the past, depends, but now, I'll wait two years, three years, when there's
02:03:09.120
I mean, I think a year should be bare minimum, honestly.
02:03:11.260
Like, even if you're not saving yourself for marriage, and you're dating intentionally,
02:03:25.460
Are you talking about people doing the first date?
02:03:28.080
Whatever hookup culture exists, people doing the first date.
02:03:31.700
Wait, why does it have to be, the girl has to put out for me?
02:03:38.200
But you said you're not paying for the first date.
02:03:40.520
So you're not going to pay for dates, and then you expect for her to sleep with you on
02:03:43.680
Wait, what does me paying for the date, or not paying for the date, have to do with
02:03:54.860
No, because you, it's not mutually beneficial, actually, because it's harming the woman emotionally.
02:04:09.280
I still love you, Morgan, but not like in a romantic way, but like in a friendly sort
02:04:15.740
If you're not going to marry that woman, okay, then she's now going off to her next
02:04:25.940
When I, okay, I've said this before on shows, but my goal, not my goal, but if I sleep with
02:04:31.320
a girl, I'm not interested in a one night stand.
02:04:33.820
I'm not interested in sleeping with a girl just once and never talking to her again.
02:04:37.520
So if I sleep with a girl, my intention is for there to be a continuity and for me to
02:04:59.900
My current boyfriend, I actually hooked up with him the very first time we hung out alone.
02:05:10.800
Well, you have a different perspective on, like, waiting till marriage.
02:05:15.740
I mean, some of my old relationships, though, did start, you know, with that.
02:05:21.560
In an ideal world, like, I 100% agree with you.
02:05:32.360
Yeah, I mean, it's very non-societally conventional anymore.
02:05:37.200
No, and I mean, I think, like, having family, that's wonderful.
02:05:50.720
Maybe, like, a strong, independent Latina woman might be able to convince me to marry
02:06:04.380
She's stacked up here, but I don't know about down there.
02:06:07.580
Morgan, this is kind of a haram conversation to be having with you right now.
02:06:16.820
I mean, Elizabeth, you might be able to talk me into it, but you got to take me on a couple
02:06:30.720
Not a lot of, but a few men in my family have actually been passport bros, and it's come
02:06:46.060
It's like with someone you truly love, and that's like your ride or die.
02:07:07.800
No, so I found out, because that was my first suspicion.
02:07:21.400
Did you believe him when he said, like, oh, it's just, like, my dark side?
02:07:25.980
And I did, but I undercover, low-key investigated.
02:07:29.260
So when he was at work, this is, like, the Snapchat days, right?
02:07:35.040
And this is how I was able to hack onto his Snapchat.
02:07:36.960
I was being a little intoxica, and I was like, okay, let me just go through his stuff.
02:07:46.820
But I literally went through his stuff, and I, like, opened his email.
02:07:50.860
Like, I changed his email password, because I had his laptop, and his email was on there.
02:07:54.360
So I switched the email, changed the password so he couldn't get in while he was at work.
02:08:01.800
Like, because you know how you can save photos?
02:08:11.280
But, like, I feel like you would have had to gone a step further to confirm the gayness.
02:08:46.440
Would you call that you were, like, in love with her?
02:08:50.420
That was my first love, but now that I'm older and, like, I've, like, dated and experienced
02:09:05.360
But scoot it closer towards you and scoot it this way.
02:09:12.060
So, that was definitely, like, my first love experience, but I've definitely been in, like,
02:09:15.940
love before after that, and it was more of, like, you know, I've experienced love, if
02:09:22.240
I'm honestly, like, now that I think about it, I probably can say that I've never really
02:09:25.220
been in love with somebody like that, like, deeply, like, to where we're spiritually...
02:09:39.920
Especially now that he's dating, like, a trans person.
02:09:41.220
So, like, shortly after you guys ended things, did he...
02:09:45.040
I kicked all his shit out of the house, and, like, that was it.
02:09:49.100
You kicked, like, you threw his shit out of the house?
02:09:51.480
I was sobbing, like, on the floor, and my mom and my best friends at the time just came
02:09:56.140
and got all trash bags, got all trash bags and just a bunch of stuff to, like, just, like,
02:10:02.220
get everything out as fast as possible, because I was literally, like, sobbing.
02:10:42.140
And you moved in, and you threw all his shit out?
02:10:46.600
Because I was providing the home for him to come home to.
02:10:49.060
He's working, like, all the time, and I'm providing that home.
02:10:54.620
When you were sleeping with him, was he sleeping with other guys?
02:10:59.880
He actually didn't really hook up with guys until after I...
02:11:06.120
Do you think he was ever going to tell you if you didn't find out?
02:11:14.140
Throwing his shit out of your shared apartment.
02:11:16.900
It was prompted by the fact that you found out he was gay.
02:11:26.060
I saw videos and conversations of him, like, sending dick pictures of other gay guys sending pictures.
02:11:45.380
How long was he sending, you know, nude images to other men and, like, you know, emotionally?
02:11:50.380
I mean, at that point, it's basically physically cheating.
02:12:20.820
Because it's, like, also, too, like, I can't change you.
02:12:32.640
And that's why when I hear your story, I'm like...
02:12:34.760
Because, like, I was like, you know, you learned so much from relationships.
02:12:40.220
I thought you were looking at me in a certain type of way.
02:12:47.300
But, I mean, moral of the thing is, like, I mean, it's just, like, it definitely built me.
02:12:51.820
Was it shitty at the situation at a point in time?
02:12:55.180
But I'm so grateful for it because I definitely wouldn't be here if it wasn't, you know?
02:13:05.600
I don't know if that one is an everything happens for a reason.
02:13:08.180
But then, like, at least you learn from every downfall.
02:13:11.260
I do want to come back to, so you waited a year to hook up with him.
02:13:16.780
You've been celibate since April from your one-year situationship.
02:13:24.860
When we were, like, kind of talking in the beginning of the year until April, it was,
02:13:30.240
So, it wasn't, like, like, he came to see me a couple times when I moved back, but we
02:13:35.960
You were never intimate with the situationship that ended in April?
02:13:40.920
So, when's the last time you hooked up with a guy?
02:13:49.020
I just consider it, like, just saving my energy and just not, you know.
02:13:55.240
I think sexual interaction is so much energy being exchanged back and forth.
02:14:09.860
I like to see sex as in, I said, a special intimate moment with your person, your partner,
02:14:24.980
I mean, you're physically giving a part of you, emotionally, physically, to that other
02:14:40.980
You must remain blind for the remainder of the show.
02:14:46.920
Wait, are you, don't, what, are you trying to read the?
02:14:50.220
No, I just like, I can't, like, it really hurts to like see you guys.
02:15:02.720
I actually prefer people viewing me in, like, a semi-blurry state.
02:15:08.380
I look, yeah, I've got, you know, I've got a little acne occasionally.
02:15:15.580
Yeah, you can't, like, really see your perfection.
02:15:17.560
So, like, it's almost like you got beer goggles on right now.
02:15:20.280
So you're just like, wow, this guy must be awesome.
02:15:25.940
I don't know if that's how math works, but, okay.
02:15:39.920
The last guy you were with, you say you wait how long?
02:15:44.420
I'm going to be honest with you, because, like, after hearing your thing,
02:15:49.180
But I haven't had a guy where the vibe's there.
02:16:00.800
It's just all about, like, I feel like, also, too, guys, just, like, target, like,
02:16:04.960
girls that look a certain way, I feel like, because they just want to date you because
02:16:11.620
I would date you for how kind you are, for your heart.
02:16:17.820
I would date you for your sick gaming montages and skills.
02:16:23.540
I would date you for all the things you bring to me that are definitely not of a physical
02:16:39.600
A guy doesn't care about what a girl does for work.
02:16:41.620
If he's immature and doesn't know what he wants, then it's different.
02:16:58.660
No hate to servers if you're a restaurant server.
02:17:00.720
But if a woman is a server at a restaurant, and this guy is, like, some multi-millionaire,
02:17:04.540
but she's loyal to him and wants to be with him and, like, will do anything, be a housewife,
02:17:09.720
whatever he wants, he will marry her more than, you know, another woman that has millions
02:17:21.960
I did actually ask a bunch of college guys at Arizona State University last week.
02:17:25.540
I said, would you date a girl with an OnlyFans?
02:17:27.700
And I would say it was about 80% of guys said no.
02:17:30.020
But the ones that said yes were very much low-value men.
02:17:34.440
They were, there was this one guy in particular that told me he would actually show her off.
02:17:38.520
And I was like, so you would be okay with your potential girlfriend selling her body
02:17:42.180
on the internet for other men, and you would show her off because you think she's, like,
02:17:46.380
And I was, but that, again, like, that doesn't make him a high-value man.
02:17:55.320
Like, there was a guy that, like, wanted to date a girl, would date a girl with an OnlyFans.
02:18:03.360
He would ask his girlfriend's, boyfriend's permission to show his girl off.
02:18:16.380
But yeah, moral of the story is, like, you know, you said guys don't care about, really,
02:18:21.140
Kind of being a little jokey, you know, but, you know, all right.
02:18:34.340
Oh, I saw on your, I don't know if it was your Instagram or maybe your kick.
02:18:47.260
So, honestly, like, when I play video games, I turn into a different person.
02:18:50.620
I'm like, I'm honestly, I'm not going to, I'm pretty good at video games.
02:18:57.420
And I get a little passionate when I'm playing, so I scream, curse a little, I rage.
02:19:03.040
I mean, have you a little brother or something?
02:19:15.520
No, it was, you literally had it in your kick or your, was it your Instagram or your.
02:19:44.160
I think, I don't believe there's, like, something innately in Latino.
02:19:50.760
Like, I think that's just, like, cope to justify shitty behavior.
02:19:56.940
Like, oh, well, you should just deal with my shitty behavior because I happen to be Latina.
02:20:05.740
I actually agree with that when it comes to relationship stuff.
02:20:27.920
So, earlier you said, and in your pre-show notes to us, you said you're traditional.
02:20:36.120
You say, you said you come from a traditional family.
02:20:43.500
I have a very old school view on dating, and I feel like I'm one of the rare ones that
02:20:54.760
I mean, I'm going to just say, because social media is such a spectrum, you know?
02:21:00.260
Obviously, it's not going to represent the entire world.
02:21:02.560
But from what I'm seeing on social media, I see girls that are promoting, like, and it's
02:21:07.960
It's just, like, the whole, like, for example, like, the OnlyFans thing.
02:21:10.760
Or the whole, like, I think feminism is actually a little bit toxic in a sense of, because,
02:21:17.720
It's like, feminism all of a sudden is like, oh, you show your hoo-ha.
02:21:36.260
I personally believe, like, as soon as I become a wife, I am...
02:21:44.840
Can you just tilt the mic down towards you a little bit?
02:21:54.200
So, I think, like, again, like, once I find my husband, he is my...
02:22:04.040
If he's getting up in the morning to go to work, I'm getting up at 4 a.m. to make sure
02:22:22.140
I do feel like it's really rare to find someone...
02:22:28.780
You want me to wash your toilet stains, I'll do it.
02:22:30.540
But also, too, you better be providing for me when I need to make sure...
02:22:39.040
I just want to make sure that I'm comfortable and every single day I wake up knowing that
02:23:00.120
You're going to need a Mercedes Sprinter for that.
02:23:32.540
I just feel like that's like the biggest thing for me.
02:23:40.200
But also, too, it's like everybody wants that life and you say that.
02:23:43.140
But it's so much more than just being a housewife and being cute in your cute little Pilates outfit.
02:23:48.620
Because I've seen it, like I said, I saw my mom do it for us.
02:23:52.360
I would thrive to be in a relationship like my parents one day.
02:23:56.540
My parents have been together since they were 15.
02:24:00.880
I mean, because you're kind of shaped by the way your parents raised you.
02:24:03.280
Yeah, I don't want the relationship with my parents.
02:24:06.640
It's about the nuclear family and having an actual mother and a father in the household is super important because you're raising the next generation.
02:24:17.440
We moved to apartment to apartment because my dad couldn't contain his financial, like, things.
02:24:21.940
And my mom was the one, like, always there for us.
02:24:24.400
Like, my dad really just was working, came home, and that really didn't have a relationship with us.
02:24:31.540
He had more of a relationship with, like, my sister.
02:24:34.780
And then I'm more of, like, a mommy's girl because my mom was always there for me.
02:24:40.380
We, you know, I obviously couldn't talk to him about, like, personal stuff or, like, what I'm...
02:24:43.960
You know, what actually is going on with my life.
02:24:47.680
My mom left my dad for a couple months, and then she came back with him.
02:24:54.940
And then we moved to Mexico for a year when I was in high school because we couldn't afford rent.
02:25:07.840
It goes back to what relationship your parents had when you were a kid.
02:25:15.420
And that you, like, kind of see your parents, and that's kind of how you imagine a relationship.
02:25:22.360
It's kind of like, what do you think this is what love should feel like?
02:25:26.720
Because your parents are, like, raising you, you know?
02:25:28.880
I mean, look at Fatherless Homes, and the women that are coming out of Fatherless Homes
02:25:32.100
are most likely, you know, going to be on OnlyFans.
02:25:34.080
They're going to go into things because they didn't have an actual leader in the household
02:25:40.380
So you're saying that you grew up in a kind of toxic environment,
02:25:46.060
and that has been a blueprint, a framework for your current relationship.
02:25:55.760
Perhaps it might even be the case for your future relationships.
02:26:05.960
You're using it as justification to remain in your toxic relationship.
02:26:13.740
I just kind of have this ingrained in me, and I guess I have to be in a toxic relationship
02:26:22.720
You are not chained to the relationship dynamic with your parents.
02:26:39.200
Bro, I'm gonna open up a extremely expensive in fucking Malibu, a rehab facility for women
02:27:02.580
Have anybody here been to drug rehab or anything?
02:27:21.480
Wait, so okay, and previously we're talking about like, well, in my past relationships,
02:27:24.620
I waited really long before sleeping with a guy, so I'm going around the table on this.
02:27:28.520
How long do you think you should wait before hooking up with a guy?
02:27:32.860
I think if the vibe is there and you guys communicate that, like I said before, that you were both
02:27:58.700
I think you would know when you communicate the feelings and there's...
02:28:01.860
It's mutual and then you can move on from there.
02:28:17.340
Like everybody has a different opinion on things.
02:28:25.440
What's the quickest also that you've ever done?
02:28:42.800
You're being a little evasive there, Elizabeth.
02:29:57.820
No, because I didn't go to his house until a couple weeks later.
02:30:06.680
I was living in San Diego and he was living in LA.
02:30:23.540
First, like first time meeting, second time meeting, third time meeting.
02:30:41.020
Society-wise, I think a woman should hold out as long as physically possible.
02:30:45.000
Because as soon as you add sexual intimacy into a relationship, a situation-ship,
02:30:53.740
And, you know, a man will chase after you and court you if that's actually somebody you want to be with.
02:30:59.480
But also in marriage, a woman should never withhold sexual intimacy from her husband.
02:31:05.800
Faith-wise, I think a woman and a man should wait until marriage for that intimacy.
02:31:12.720
Like I don't think a woman or a man like they're...
02:31:16.000
When you're going into a marriage, you can learn that and you don't need to do that.
02:31:22.300
And I will always say that and be open and honest with a partner about that.
02:31:25.100
And also, like my partner would be honest with me of, you know, where he's at.
02:31:31.360
But when going into a marriage, as I've gotten older, I've realized like that just clouds everything.
02:31:36.180
And like traditionally, like you just don't need that.
02:31:41.340
And I'm expecting to be engaged, like, I mean, after a year to a year and a half, like be engaged.
02:31:47.180
Well, yeah, you're, I mean, you're walking a different path now.
02:31:52.140
I have a, and you brought up an interesting point.
02:31:54.020
Like in marriage, the wife should not withhold sex.
02:31:57.260
Well, before, Madison, I want to have you answer the original question.
02:32:01.820
Wait, Madison, you're hiding too much behind the...
02:32:05.980
Personal experience, I've never been like, I've never been, I was never introduced to the fact that like you had to wait or like waiting was better.
02:32:14.460
So, I can't really say like, I don't know, the fastest I've done it was like first hangout.
02:32:24.480
And I think that you can also learn with that person.
02:32:31.420
I mean, of all my long-term relationships, it's like I've had a five-year relationship, two-year, one-year, one-year.
02:32:40.580
Uh, it was pretty early on for all of them, either the, pretty sure either the second, by the second or third hangout, we hooked up.
02:32:50.360
And I don't think, so long as you're both interested in pursuing something long-term, I don't think it's, it's kind of arbitrary.
02:32:58.420
I, if, but if your standard is like, I'm waiting till marriage, then obviously waiting makes sense.
02:33:04.240
But if it's just like, sort of this arbitrary thing.
02:33:08.740
But also, you don't know if you're going to marry that person by a second or third date.
02:33:11.060
So then at that point, you're just confusing the relationship and adding a, like for a woman, adding to her body count is really important as if she has to go into another relationship and you don't actually end up together.
02:33:27.460
You know, because let's say going into a relationship, she has a low body count.
02:33:31.520
And then she dates the next guy and okay, it's going well.
02:33:36.040
But then all of a sudden they break up six months later and then she goes into another relationship and she's just, you know, at this point adding more men to her roster.
02:33:42.760
Well, now she's creating the inability to have bonds with more and more men instead of withholding a little bit longer, even if it is six months, you know, at least you can get to know that guy.
02:33:53.240
And if you break up, well, it's okay because you did not have sexual intimacy with that person to where then going into another relationship, one, the breakup will be easier because you didn't create that bond with that person in that way.
02:34:04.380
When it comes to like, I'm talking like actual having sexual intimacy, but then into the next relationship, she is way better off and ready to be in an actual relationship to be married at that point.
02:34:14.360
Because what's the point of dating and relationships if it's not procreation and marriage at the end of the day?
02:34:22.860
So, I mean, if you want to have like sex, like date three, sure.
02:34:27.120
But I mean, you're just emotionally and physically harming each other if you do not end up with that person.
02:34:37.220
Have I ever been harmed physically or emotionally by having sex with a woman?
02:34:51.060
Lady in black, stop using vibe because that's just code for attractiveness.
02:34:55.900
Gold medalist, fly to Germany and see that dude.
02:34:59.180
Toxic relationship, fix yourself and leave him.
02:35:14.940
I've been told that I've dated guys that are way below my league.
02:35:20.040
Because I do not care about what you look like physically.
02:35:22.880
After the show, I want to see your exes because-
02:35:28.360
It's crazy because guys who, you know, below a more attractive girls league are more likely
02:35:35.060
to actually chase after the more attractive woman because the really good looking like Chad dudes
02:35:39.620
aren't necessarily going to go after the super attractive girls because they're-
02:35:46.200
Because, I mean, they're ugly guys that never got girls in high school and then it's like
02:35:50.360
They date girls that are really pretty because they're taking revenge out of like, they didn't
02:35:55.340
date me, so I'm going to like, you know, do this to her, do this to her, you know?
02:36:01.120
He can be ugly and he can be a really nice guy.
02:36:05.800
I mean, bringing it back to Eric's super chat here, talking about the vibe, I think it
02:36:13.460
really ultimately does come down to the physical attractiveness has to be there to begin with,
02:36:19.620
I think, for their- I mean, obviously, can a guy be charismatic?
02:36:27.440
But I think, because there's also this thing where behavior that a woman would otherwise
02:36:36.780
find flirtatious, if the guy's not attractive, she's going to label it as creepy.
02:36:43.100
So like, the exact same sort of behavior, if it's coming from a guy you're not physically
02:36:48.240
attracted to, it's going to be framed as like, creepy, but like, a guy you're attracted to
02:36:53.400
doing the exact same shit, you're like, oh, flirting.
02:36:58.280
So it's like, I don't know, the vibe's kind of-
02:37:03.940
Of course, there's like, clearly creepy shit that even if he's attractive, it's like, whoa.
02:37:10.580
Hey, do you want to come check out my knife collection?
02:37:14.620
Actually, I think some chicks might be into that.
02:37:26.480
And he wasn't, like, attracted, like, I definitely wasn't attracted to him, like, not someone
02:37:39.340
So basically, I was like, he had like, six friends with him.
02:37:42.960
So it was like, him and his six friends, and I was like-
02:37:49.020
I was walking out of Chipotle, and he, like, walks up to me, and he's like, oh, like, you're
02:37:55.940
Like, I hope you have a great rest of your day.
02:38:00.960
He was like, I play basketball, like, all this stuff.
02:38:08.020
And then he was just like, I had, like, cool, like, conversation with him, but I wasn't,
02:38:12.540
like, giving ideas that I was attracted to him.
02:38:19.840
And then he was like, oh, well, you and your boyfriend should come to my basketball games.
02:38:32.940
That's like, that's like, what's your boyfriend got to do with me type of shit.
02:38:39.620
Probably never going to go to one of his basketball games.
02:38:47.000
Even when he wasn't- even though he wasn't attractive to me, he was just not-
02:39:20.720
Like, just pause and then was waiting for a response?
02:39:26.280
Like, I hope you have a great rest of your day because I was, like, getting in my car.
02:39:33.440
No, I was walking out of Chipotle getting in my car.
02:39:38.420
And his, like, six friends were just standing there watching us conversate.
02:39:53.600
We were all still standing within, like, five feet of each other.
02:40:05.440
I didn't know, like, the exact conversation we had.
02:40:27.380
And then he was just like, oh, like, I play basketball, too.
02:40:44.800
Because I'm never sorry that I have a boyfriend.
02:40:55.660
He was like, oh, like, maybe I shouldn't be talking to you then.
02:41:13.860
He's just like, oh, he should come to the games.
02:41:14.960
Yeah, and he was like, oh, you and your boyfriend should come to my basketball games.
02:41:18.620
And then his friend started laughing and was like, haha, maybe.
02:41:32.600
You know, it's kind of like, check out my Ferrari.
02:41:42.400
Oh, we were going around the table, like, how long you should wait.
02:41:56.220
If I were to propose to you, right, with a ring-
02:42:16.740
We were engaged, and now you're dating some fucking German chad who's got way more followers
02:42:51.240
Someone said, like, right after that podcast, you are rizzing up another girl.
02:42:59.700
Someone said, oh, my gosh, Brian cheated on you or something on the next episode.
02:43:12.200
Madsen, I haven't done the ring thing in a long time, right?
02:43:17.800
This is the first I'm hearing about this fucking new guy.
02:43:28.680
I haven't talked to you in two months, but I thought we were, like, engaged and shit.
02:43:33.900
And now I find out tonight on the fucking stream that you're cheating on me?
02:43:42.180
You think the thing with you and your boyfriend is weird?
02:43:52.800
So I thought that's what it was, that we're so busy.
02:44:35.700
If I decide that I want my kids to be homeschooled.
02:44:42.600
I'm not putting my kids in public school, especially the way things are going.
02:44:51.980
See, there's, it comes when it, if it's a sense of morals and you're guiding me, okay,
02:44:57.080
But if it's like an argument, like a normal, like, come on, you're a couple, we argue.
02:45:07.920
You hold that shit in and then a week goes by and you're like, eh, whatever.
02:45:19.320
You can, uh, you're, you're going to have to, maybe once a year, I'll allow like a boil
02:45:34.400
Our relationship, our marriage is a dictatorship.
02:45:55.220
I'm trying to think of what other ways one could be traditional.
02:46:00.400
Because you said you're like waiting for, you're not waiting for marriage, but you would
02:46:03.660
sleep with someone, you know, like after a year.
02:46:06.640
Because it sounds like, you know, you are religious.
02:46:08.220
You do have all these traditional morals, these values, homeschooling.
02:46:10.940
Like, these are very biblical, traditional, traditional things and society traditional.
02:46:16.100
So what's, you know, why, why not wait for marriage then in that case?
02:46:30.260
It's just not, like I said, like dating is so hard.
02:46:41.020
There's a lot of guys who are intimidated by women who are actually strong and want more
02:46:45.420
Because there are men that want traditional things out there.
02:46:48.140
But some guys are scared of that because they're like, oh, she actually knows what she wants.
02:47:01.480
But sometimes when they're younger, they're like almost unaware.
02:47:04.480
Where they're like, oh, you like, I need to provide for these things.
02:47:08.760
And you're like, yeah, and I will provide back.
02:47:13.520
Well, I mean, from a financial approach, I feel like a guy's not going to.
02:47:21.800
So he's 21, 22 by the time he gets out of college.
02:47:33.380
Yeah, I was going to say, I could be married right now and have a kid.
02:47:42.700
I mean, I have a feeling I'll be married probably by the time I'm like 28,
02:47:54.280
What if somebody like, can I be, like if somebody, a male saw you on the whatever podcast
02:48:00.680
and then he slid into the, do you check your DMs?
02:48:32.040
I don't, you know, you can identify as a woman.
02:48:34.220
Then you're definitely not invited to her wedding.
02:48:38.160
If you want to identify as whatever you want to identify, it's short, but like.
02:48:43.780
What about, is Blair White coming to your wedding?
02:48:53.940
Okay, I don't know where I'm, well, I'm taking that there.
02:48:57.320
But sure, Brian, you can, you can come to my, um, fictitious wedding.
02:49:23.880
No, you don't like, you'd rather do crab cakes and lobster rolls?
02:49:27.840
There have, listen, you have to promise me that there will be crab cakes at your wedding,
02:49:41.980
So, you have to be there, if it's somebody who's watched me on the podcast.
02:50:06.000
I grew up in like, the most south of the San Diego.
02:50:09.880
If you like, I like truffle oil on it with some parsley.
02:50:17.740
Bread crumbs, and it's like put into like a little, like a patty.
02:50:22.240
Okay, so Allie, you're a very traditional woman.
02:50:26.520
However, we need to do a background check on you to make sure that you're actually traditional.
02:50:31.820
Don't blow the IG because that's, you have to understand I'm a brand and I have to bring
02:50:38.280
Speaking of which, Nick, can you go and pull up Addis?
02:50:55.820
By the time you give her the ring, please take the cash from this TTS and take her to
02:51:01.300
that in Slash Shout hot dog joint you like to celebrate the engagement.
02:51:11.820
So he's not familiar with In-N-Out, but there's definitely a joke somewhere in there.
02:51:18.580
Are we, you want to get some In-N-Out after this?
02:52:23.680
No, it was, didn't we go with, it was Nick, Madison, was Stay Safe on that phone?
02:52:33.200
No, we went, us, Stay Safe, that girl, and her dad.
02:53:00.440
Wait, was it, was it just me, you, and your parents?
02:53:04.400
It was just me, you, and my parents who went in and out.
02:53:32.240
Okay, let's pull up our dear friend Allie's Instagram page.
02:53:58.320
There's literally one photo with a chair in it.
02:54:11.900
Is it like the gaming one or like the gaming version?
02:54:16.700
Let's just not talk about the fact that you're like naked.
02:54:48.180
Brian, are you going to take that ring back, then?
02:55:18.340
Don't say red flag, because I was raving before it was cool.
02:55:30.020
Those are during the pandemic, because that was a drive-up rave.
02:55:50.240
Like, traditional isn't the first word that comes to mind.
02:56:01.060
So, my thing with that is, like I said, I look at it as a brand kind of thing.
02:56:05.180
I financially support myself right now, and where I draw the line is obviously exclusive
02:56:13.620
It's just because I think it's a little different, because in that sense, you're essentially
02:56:17.200
paying somebody, like saying, hey, send me an ass picture for $5.
02:56:28.200
And when it comes to, like, for example, let's say I did meet a man that's like, hey, I don't
02:56:34.420
If he's financially supporting me, and he's taking care of me, sure.
02:56:39.520
But what kind of men are you attracting by posting photos like that?
02:56:45.940
I will never date anybody that has social media.
02:56:47.720
But wouldn't you want a man to find you attractive for your own just personality and who you are?
02:56:53.460
And, you know, because I feel like that's almost, like, counterintuitive is you want a traditional
02:56:58.220
I used to post bikini pictures on my Instagram.
02:57:00.040
Now they're completely scrubbed because it's like, I know that that's not the attention
02:57:04.000
And if a man is seeing me on the internet, then I want them to know, like, that is authentically
02:57:18.660
Women don't have to put out just for you to get tips and money, you know?
02:57:26.440
Like, you know, I never really took Instagram seriously until I started streaming.
02:57:30.960
But on stream and stuff, like, you know, it's like...
02:57:38.660
You'll make more money than the last clothes you have on.
02:57:40.920
But I also feel, like I said, if I were to meet somebody, it's probably going to be somebody
02:57:45.680
that I meet on the street or through a mutual or through a family friend.
02:57:49.400
Like, especially like you said, what kind of man am I attracting that looks at me like
02:57:53.260
But, like, okay, let's say you meet that guy in that organic way and he's a traditional
02:58:02.040
Find your Instagram or you'll tell him your Instagram and...
02:58:06.480
And some guys, like, from my experience, they are cool with it and some aren't.
02:58:10.260
And I, like I said, I respect, like, their opinion, you know, just like as if, like,
02:58:14.860
I was dating someone and they did something I didn't like.
02:58:19.740
Like, if you were just dating a guy and you weren't married, he's not financially supporting
02:58:23.440
You're just in a relationship out of respect for him.
02:58:27.620
Like, I don't want, you know, my girlfriend on the internet posting like this.
02:58:33.000
Because, like you said, he's not financially supporting.
02:58:39.160
But what if he has those traditional qualities?
02:58:42.880
I don't think you can be traditional if you can't financially support me.
02:58:52.760
Like, I've dated guys that have taken care of me.
02:58:56.320
And this is before I started streaming and doing, like, social media as a job.
02:59:00.680
Now that I'm in it and I'm, like, in it, like, full force and stuff.
02:59:04.500
I probably, like I said, that's probably why I don't want a relationship right now.
02:59:06.600
Because I'm just trying to make my money and do it while I can while I look like this.
02:59:17.400
But are you building a brand based off of your love looks right now?
02:59:21.540
But it's just, like I said, I don't really use Instagram that much.
02:59:26.700
Like, if, like I said, like, I like to post more, like, silly clips of me doing stupid shit.
02:59:32.160
I mean, I think you could still make the money, arguably, without having to post or without having to put out.
02:59:37.340
And a guy who, you know, wants to date you, who actually respects you for who you are, out of respect for you, would also ask that you remove them, you know?
02:59:45.620
Because it's, like, they're not, it's not only you respecting yourself and being, and I won't even say, like, fully modest, you know?
02:59:51.320
Like, there's nothing wrong if you're, like, wearing a bikini out and, like, posting a photo.
02:59:55.680
But it's, like, the way in which a woman posts a photo that's attracting that, like, you know, negative attention.
02:59:59.420
And I think if a man is, like, hey, you know, I really don't want you posting like this on the internet.
03:00:03.340
But, like, I want you to respect your own body, and I respect you for that, too.
03:00:08.640
It'll go back to, like, she said, it's a brand right now.
03:00:10.860
Like, she's definitely going to get rid of it later.
03:00:17.060
Like, when she finds, you know, she wants to be stable, she's going to, like, you know.
03:00:20.240
But why not build the brand off of who you actually are?
03:00:23.400
Because I don't, can I be honest with you, just for personal reasons, I'm sure, you know, streaming is really dangerous.
03:00:30.400
And for protection of my family and everything.
03:00:36.800
And it's because, like I said, it's different on gaming.
03:00:39.800
Because gaming, it's like there's a lot of people that genuinely, like, don't leave their house.
03:00:46.320
So I choose to represent myself on social media a certain way.
03:00:52.240
I, like, don't like, like, I like to keep my personal life completely separate from social media.
03:00:57.000
But don't you think it might be an incumbrance?
03:01:03.820
So, I mean, you might be prepared to take it down once the guy starts financially providing for you.
03:01:08.320
But do you think it could be a hindrance to that sort of guy who's prepared to be that provider?
03:01:16.480
He's, like, might look at your Instagram and say, well, this girl's posting these kind
03:01:22.460
She's not traditional, ergo, I'm not, I'm not going to even get involved with her or I'm
03:01:27.420
just not going to give her the traditional treatment.
03:01:29.340
I think it goes back to, like, that him knowing her.
03:01:31.680
Obviously, they're going to go on dates and knowing you for who you are.
03:01:42.580
She's just doing it for the brand because you don't pay my bills, you don't pay my rent.
03:01:45.280
I have to do it, you know, somehow because you weren't there when you were going to pay
03:01:49.940
Well, I mean, if anyone could just use that argument, someone could say, I had to prostitute
03:01:58.000
It's kind of like the feminist OnlyFans mentality in a sense.
03:02:00.860
Like, I know you're not physically selling, you know, your body on OnlyFans, right?
03:02:06.740
But you're still putting out in a way that is encouraging the over-sexualized society
03:02:11.900
because we live in a very over-sexualized society, sex cells, but you're encouraging
03:02:17.100
that to where your viewers are, it's almost counterintuitive.
03:02:21.480
Well, compare, I mean, it's low on the totem pole comparatively.
03:02:25.620
Like, posting bikini pics and kind of provocative or revealing photos, it's not as bad as,
03:02:32.140
for example, like, if you're shooting boy-girl content on OnlyFans.
03:02:37.120
But, like, there is still, like, a subset of men who's going to be like, hmm, they're probably
03:02:41.240
But I also think it's the way in which a woman also posts on the internet.
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Because there's, like, very more, like, respectful poses, like, a woman could do, you know, if
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There's ways on which it will look more classy versus, like, hey, I'm showing off my body.
03:03:00.660
Wait, can you go back to the tagged Instagram, I think?
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Like, whatever you want to do, like, it's up to them.
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Also, too, I feel like if a guy really is, like, I'm not going to date you because your
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Instagram photos, no offense, like, I don't want to date a guy like that.
03:03:18.000
I like businessmen that are on their phone all the time and...
03:03:20.560
Wait, what does that have to do with you posting bikini photos and...
03:03:26.000
What does someone being a businessman have to do with...
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A businessman's not going on Instagram and worrying about what I'm doing.
03:03:34.720
I feel like you'd be worried about how you present yourself on social media.
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But would a guy of that high value and that stature necessarily, you know, it's like,
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oh, hey, it's like, can I see your girl's Instagram?
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Maybe if a guy's like a hype man, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, I usually ask my partners not to share that alley boba.
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You know, I like a normal guy who usually is just like, oh, cool.
03:04:21.320
Like I said, I'm at that point in my life where I'm like, okay, this is the one.
03:04:25.000
And like I said, devote my life and time to becoming a mom and a wife.
03:04:41.200
I've never met a man that didn't cheat in the NBA.
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And I'm like, they took her private jets, like the yachts or whatever.
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You know, those guys are very tempted because girls are throwing themselves at them.
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So if a man wants it, he wants that woman and he will stay loyal to that woman.
03:05:06.800
But if he doesn't want that woman, then he won't.
03:05:08.760
Wait, who here has had an offer from a guy to be flown out somewhere?
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Either flown out to Vegas, Miami, whatever it may be.
03:05:21.900
Uh, have any of you taken up the flown out offer?
03:05:32.820
And he actually was like this multi, like super like investor guy.
03:05:47.160
Um, he just wanted a little something more serious than what I wanted, honestly.
03:05:50.920
Wait, but you literally just said that you want to get married and have kids and...
03:06:10.500
Also, if you try to speak to me that instead of speaking to Morgan...
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Like when someone offers something, it kind of scares me away.
03:06:43.060
To clarify, we did FaceTime before multiple times.
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I want to just go on a plane, yeah, with a stranger.
03:06:50.040
So, but you've moved in circles with NBA players?
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And you've moved in circles with athletes and musicians and actors and...
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One of them, I found out, ended up having a freaking girlfriend.
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And she messaged me one time and she was like, hey, I think you're dating my boyfriend.
03:07:31.200
And then I tried talking to another athlete that my friend actually knew because he did
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Like, I just can't be around the partying and all that constantly.
03:07:59.200
I mean, I can't go to a nightclub because it's so boring to me.
03:08:08.080
It's hard to be at the social level that your drunk friends are when you are at, like,
03:08:16.720
So, is everybody here sober besides alcoholic Madison over here?
03:08:50.480
Are you talking about the one of me smoking the blunt?
03:09:04.020
Well, that was the other thing I was going to ask.
03:09:07.660
Isn't, like, getting baked out of your mind on weed, is that traditional?
03:09:18.540
Like, that's terrible to me because I like to be functional.
03:09:23.160
I just dab at night for my, like, when that's my content.
03:09:38.560
The most that you can, maybe occasionally a glass of wine, but you're, maybe you can have
03:09:54.520
I mean, you can have a minivan and I'll put you up in my shed.
03:09:59.460
If I have a shed in my backyard, you can camp out there.
03:10:10.960
I think the girl should have, like, a separate, your wife should have a separate room.
03:10:27.620
No, I've never done a sleeping stream, but I'll fall asleep to my friends.
03:10:34.880
Scoot the mic this way and then tilt it towards you.
03:10:41.780
And then just breathe, like, straight back and don't slouch.
03:10:50.260
Yeah, I definitely think separate bedrooms is the way to go.
03:10:53.700
Well, you know, Jewish culture, they don't sleep in the same bedroom.
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Are you, like, taking back your proposal, Brian?
03:11:23.740
You can have, like, five wives, different houses.
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I might come off a little bit mean on TikTok, but that's just content.
03:12:01.380
It's not the same thing as a man liking another girl's picture.
03:12:09.160
I hate how, like, dating has become, like, so one-sided because I'm, like, used to dating
03:12:14.660
somebody and giving them, like, the equal respect that they give me.
03:12:17.660
So, for example, if I ask my man to unfollow, let's say, an Instagram model who happens to
03:12:24.420
post a little bit more, you know, over-the-top photos or whatever it may be, showing off their
03:12:29.540
body, etc., I think it's only right for me as a woman that's, you know, trying to respect
03:12:35.280
my man, if he's respecting me by unfollowing these girls, what gives it a right for me to
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be allowed to post, let's say, over-the-top photos of me showing my body?
03:12:45.540
And I think it's really fucking annoying how these women try to be, like, oh, women
03:12:50.440
But it's, like, you're literally preaching the fucking opposite.
03:12:59.180
Now, the TikTok that you posted just before that one, play that one.
03:13:10.200
Because the way you got me feeling right now, everyday girl, I want to see you.
03:13:30.400
But, like, how do you go from that TikTok to what you say?
03:13:38.040
The point of that TikTok, if you watched the video before, it's a girl saying...
03:13:41.700
She's pretty much saying that if I tell my man to follow a picture of a girl in a bikini,
03:13:45.940
I still can post one, which I think is stupid as fuck.
03:13:53.200
But, like I said, again, if I were to, later down in life, meet a man, he's like, don't
03:13:58.940
But, like I said, I'm only doing content and doing this stuff right now while I can.
03:14:06.000
I don't want to be, like, you know, doing this to my boy.
03:14:08.360
Don't you ever want to find something that you're passionate about and then you could do
03:14:18.220
I just don't know how you can justify being traditional.
03:14:20.220
Like, traditional, but then actively posting things that are not promiscuous.
03:14:30.640
Those kinds of videos, a man's going to watch that and going to like that.
03:14:37.580
So, how can you claim, okay, I'm traditional, I want all these great things, but then still
03:14:42.380
And I know it's, like, you're saying it's your character and it's just content.
03:14:45.500
But the thing is, like, that content lives forever.
03:14:54.200
And that's the image that everyone is going to have of you.
03:14:57.920
And I think that determines from, and this is, I think, the problem with social media these
03:15:02.660
days, is people base their entire identity and life off social media to justify themselves
03:15:08.900
I literally look at social media, I'm going to be honest with you, with money.
03:15:11.040
Like, hello, I'm in this business, I'm a businesswoman.
03:15:14.300
And it's just, like, I'm going to do it, like I said, while I can right now.
03:15:18.940
But wouldn't you rather make money in a more glorifying way to your own self?
03:15:26.700
But why do women feel the need to put out on the internet to make money?
03:15:33.920
Like, my whole family, we're all within, like, the medical field.
03:15:36.660
Like, my uncle is a doctor, a nurse, dermatologist, I have dentists.
03:15:42.520
You can go to cosmetology school for nine months.
03:15:48.880
The point is, you don't have to sell your body on the internet to make money.
03:15:52.860
I think women have been lied to that it's, like, oh, it's super glorifying.
03:15:56.680
This is women's empowerment of, like, actually, no, you can post your body, be super promiscuous,
03:16:02.840
But then you're seeking the opposite negative attention of a man.
03:16:06.660
And, I mean, women also, it's, like, male validation.
03:16:13.600
And so it's, like, are you seeking out that negative attention from men?
03:16:17.200
But I'm saying, like, are women seeking out that negative attention from men by posting on the internet?
03:16:22.860
And it's, like, no, you don't have to do that to make money.
03:16:37.280
Simply by, I mean, even, like, the TikTok NPC trend.
03:16:40.440
Like, that is very over-sexualized with women that are doing it.
03:16:45.000
Actually, Madison, we had our first Madison NPC.
03:17:08.980
So, I think the sticking point for us, because you, in your pre-show messages, and I think
03:17:14.920
during the show, you said that you're traditional, that you have old-school values.
03:17:20.300
You said that you're very old-school view when it comes to dating.
03:17:24.620
But, like, if you look at, like, the Instagram, for example, you know, there's lingerie photos,
03:17:29.660
bikini photos, ass photos, rave attire, blunt smoking.
03:17:36.920
Like, that doesn't strike me as the epitome of traditional, you know?
03:17:42.620
When I go on dates, and let's say they do know what I do, they meet me in person, they're
03:17:47.300
Like, you were so the opposite of what I thought you were going to be.
03:17:51.900
Your personality, like, what you're looking for in a man, like, the way you move in a
03:18:00.520
But what I would argue is, I don't think you can, there may be some traditional things
03:18:05.820
about you, but I don't think you can just blanket say that you are traditional or that
03:18:11.800
you do have fully across the board old-school values because some of these things seem negotiable
03:18:17.600
with you, like, just based off the pictures you're posting, the smoke in the, is it a
03:18:26.860
Again, it doesn't, your public-facing, your public-facing presentation doesn't strike me
03:18:37.760
You could have traditional values, but a part of being a traditional person is also living
03:18:44.900
No, I was just gonna say, like, back when I was in college, I posted bikini photos, I
03:18:48.340
was drinking, you know, used to smoke weed, but then once I was like, no, I'm going to
03:18:53.320
live a traditional life because that's also what I want to attract is I want a traditional
03:18:58.120
Well, okay, I'm not gonna post a bikini photo, I'm not gonna drink anymore, I'm not gonna
03:19:01.140
do these certain things and as it progressed in life.
03:19:03.040
So it's like you can have traditional values, but that being a traditional person, it looks
03:19:12.200
Uh, but didn't she say she doesn't want to date someone traditional right now because
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And then later on, she's gonna, like, you know, actually delete all the stuff like you
03:19:20.960
did, you know, like you had a past that it was bad and you change it because you want
03:19:24.980
to be a different way and that's still valid, you know?
03:19:27.520
Like, if people change, people change, you know?
03:19:32.080
But you actively know that you want to change, so why not do it?
03:19:38.120
Fine, so, like, if you're passionate about gaming, still game.
03:19:44.800
No, the gaming thing was, like, you know, like I said, it's a passion.
03:19:56.480
I was on Twitch for a year and then I went to Kik.
03:20:04.160
I was just going to add to what Morgan said, but just, like, I feel like a majority of traditional
03:20:08.700
women can most definitely put pictures of, like, that for their body online to gain money,
03:20:15.980
but keep to their values so they don't do that.
03:20:19.000
But, okay, part of, like, you could argue, part of, like, tradition, old school values,
03:20:31.400
It's, like, reputation or, like, the way you portray yourself.
03:20:35.980
One of the traditional things or an old school value is modesty.
03:20:46.100
I mean, come on, I'm wearing a little pet shirt.
03:20:49.540
But that's, like, me claiming I'm a virgin, but I slept with 30 people.
03:20:57.620
Did you have more on this that you wanted to...
03:21:04.020
Like, there's probably that guy that was, you know, wants to be traditional.
03:21:25.300
If, like, my boyfriend was, like, protecting me and murdered someone for me, then yeah.
03:21:37.260
You know, their past is their past, and, like, it's the person who they are now and who
03:21:42.880
Who believes that, here at the table, your past is your past?
03:21:49.540
If they've actively repented and changed their entire lifestyle, then yes.
03:21:55.540
Would you date a guy who, in his past, slept with a hundred different prostitutes?
03:22:17.600
Within that relationship that you have with someone, and you discuss your past, and
03:22:20.440
you discuss what you want, and stuff, like, that's up to that relationship.
03:22:23.800
It's up to everybody who has a different opinion.
03:22:31.100
Let's just say, like, a man has, like, an OnlyFans.
03:22:40.900
They do, though, but I honestly think they're...
03:22:47.440
I mean, it's less risky than him saying, like, a hundred prostitutes.
03:22:54.760
No, I'm telling you, I feel like that's, like, the normal nowadays.
03:22:57.020
Yeah, I was saying there's, like, a ten cup of course.
03:23:00.560
Going to you, Amber, in your pre-show notes to us, you said that you...
03:23:07.780
You mentioned something about a spiritual fuckboy.
03:23:12.300
This is a guy that, when I broke up with my toxic boyfriend, I met this guy from mutual
03:23:25.180
And it's crazy, because I didn't know there was spiritual, you know, like, F-boys.
03:23:31.480
It's crazy to me, because it's like, he seems like a really nice...
03:23:33.860
Like, you know, you would expect spiritual people to be like, okay, you know what?
03:23:41.500
And they're not going to play games with you, right?
03:23:45.180
Even in the Christian community, I mean, there's...
03:23:48.860
Do you mean religious, or do you mean, like, heart chakras, fucking yoga type shit?
03:23:57.800
Bro, you got to send these when she's at the table, brother.
03:24:38.620
So, like, heart chakras, fucking stones and shit.
03:24:45.660
Like, he told me, he's like, I don't believe in therapy because, like, I do ayahuasca and...
03:24:57.520
You enter his house, above the fireplace, there's, like, a lion that has so many colors because
03:25:03.300
they have, like, this UV light that shines into it.
03:25:06.860
One time I went to his party and he had, like, a bowl of shrooms.
03:25:11.300
Just casually, like, people could just do shrooms however they want.
03:25:22.920
He believed that you can get cured with, like, ayahuasca and the spiritual and, like, going
03:25:35.920
He was, like, tell me all this stuff and, you know, obviously, like, I'm stupid and I
03:25:47.940
And, yeah, and the way that he just, like, portrayed himself was so different.
03:25:54.840
Like, if you're spiritual and stuff like that, he lied about it.
03:26:00.400
Oh, he's like, yeah, I have a Tesla, but my brother's borrowing it.
03:26:05.960
And I'm like, if you need a car, then why don't you ask your brother to give your Tesla
03:26:14.300
He was, like, this crypto guy that was, like, you know, like, oh, my God.
03:26:23.860
So, you said this was after you broke up with your current ex.
03:26:29.780
So, this was within the past two months that you were involved with the spiritual fuck
03:26:43.520
Probably, like, a month after I figured out that, like, he was like...
03:27:31.960
I love how open and honest you've been this entire show.
03:27:44.020
I really thought this guy was, like, a really nice guy.
03:27:50.160
He kept saying, like, oh, you would be such a good wife.
03:27:54.740
Did your current guy that you're, like, toxic ex slash not ex know that you went and hung
03:28:17.460
And there was, like, this part where, like, he just, like, he was so inconsistent.
03:28:24.740
Like, one time I hanged out with him at a mall.
03:28:31.400
He was looking at other people while he was talking to me.
03:28:54.000
I'm like, you didn't even tell me, like, hey, like, it was a great time.
03:29:07.200
And I put very strong air quotes on breaking up with your toxic ex.
03:29:12.400
How soon after breaking up with him did you get involved with spiritual fuckboy?
03:29:33.080
Under which context would you shower with somebody?
03:29:40.340
You just don't want to say you fucked him because you're still in this weird situationship...
03:29:52.900
In some universe, I could imagine, you guys were at the beach together, and you showered
03:30:07.820
But you hadn't had sex yet, but you were comfortable showering naked together.
03:30:16.460
So, as a consolation prize, you showered with him naked?
03:30:34.040
I'd rather just not do that and have a pleasant shower without you stealing all the hot water.
03:30:41.160
I mean, it wasn't stealing because, to be honest, he lives rent-free.
03:30:47.700
I'm not trying to make a point about the utilities here.
03:30:55.600
It's more so just like if you're showering with someone, it's kind of like,
03:31:17.580
They rub on each other, but when they're wearing clothes, like, it's the same.
03:31:28.380
Doesn't mean you can't get a little soaking action in.
03:31:40.620
Pretty much, no, because he actually texted me a couple, like, weeks ago.
03:31:47.480
And he sent me a picture where I was really traumatized, like, that night, and he...
03:31:52.800
There was a night where I got really high to the point where I cut, like, getting high.
03:31:59.660
Like, I was so paranoid that I wanted to call the cops on him.
03:32:05.020
And I was like, oh, I want to relax a little bit.
03:32:14.740
Yeah, and I realized that, and I was like, I don't want to do that anymore.
03:32:28.600
Yeah, and it wasn't the fact that, like, I was at a stranger's house.
03:32:33.700
You wanted to call the cops because you were freaking the fuck out on weed?
03:32:43.140
Yeah, because I was so scared that he, like, kind of, you know, like, did something to it.
03:32:48.960
Like, I was scared because it's like, this never happens, kind of, to me.
03:33:02.220
Like, if you could possibly just take too much, it could get you, like...
03:33:07.980
But the way that he handled it was so scary to me.
03:33:21.240
But, obviously, because he's used to that, like, used to doing drugs and stuff like that.
03:33:29.180
You said you hung out with him three times total, correct?
03:33:31.420
Was it the first, second, or third time you hung out with him?
03:33:45.580
The second date, you went to his place, though?
03:34:17.480
And what I didn't like is, like, he looked at me in the eyes.
03:34:34.260
But I would see how you would take that in a way where you were in the state of paranoia.
03:35:17.160
And then afterwards, he literally, like, sent me this whole, like, paragraph later on getting mad.
03:35:38.260
Perhaps in the moment, you had a fear that he...
03:35:44.620
But it sounds like you're just having an edible, like...
03:35:47.460
Who knows, anything could have fentanyl in it nowadays.
03:35:50.760
Instead of, like, cuddling me or something like that, tell me it's okay.
03:35:58.420
Because this is why I actually don't smoke weed.
03:36:02.220
When I was very young, I was 17 in high school.
03:36:13.480
I don't know if it was a strain or I smoked too much.
03:36:28.980
In any case, haven't smoked weed since I was 17, whatever.
03:36:45.340
I've heard from a lot of people that they have, like, these strange experiences on weed.
03:36:53.300
So, you can definitely have some weird shit going on.
03:36:55.780
But you probably just had, like, a panic attack.
03:36:59.640
Like, whenever I agree now, I just feel like I'm not myself.
03:37:05.980
I think if you have anxiety, like, that triggers it.
03:37:15.660
If you have, like, an anxious personality or you have panic attacks, do not smoke weed.
03:37:22.480
If you do smoke weed, you have to know what you can handle.
03:37:29.120
He texted me this picture saying, like, crazy night.
03:37:35.800
Not freaking out, but, like, before, like, when we were, like, having dinner.
03:37:51.540
Despite your distaste for the way he handled your freakout when you were on weed, you still
03:37:57.500
opted to see him a third time and then shower naked with him?
03:38:02.500
Well, because he said, he, like, actually said, like, you know what?
03:38:04.940
Like, I understand what, like, kind of he was, like, nice.
03:38:10.300
That wasn't whenever he freaked out about, like, the whole, like, calling to house.
03:38:13.760
No, he was actually nice at the beginning whenever it happened the day after.
03:38:17.400
And then why didn't you see him again after the third time?
03:38:25.060
I stopped seeing him after, like, the third date.
03:38:32.020
Because it wasn't a day we went to the mall together and we just, like, hung out, to be honest.
03:38:53.880
And all this while, all this while, you were still seeing your current situation show?
03:39:14.820
So now, everything that you say is, like, questionable.
03:39:19.940
No, but earlier, you said, oh, I haven't, two months.
03:39:25.460
I don't know, but I'm shy, but I'm not going to say it in, like, in live.
03:39:30.720
Like, people can come back in the future and be like, you know.
03:39:59.800
I'm a Taurus, but I don't know what that means.
03:40:14.740
I'm not like a zodiac sign girl, but that's what I hear.
03:41:39.760
Wait, people tell you to stay away from Taurus?
03:41:43.160
I see it on TikTok sometimes, but it's always like...
03:42:00.920
Apparently, like, a lot of Taurus men just don't bring anything to the table.
03:42:08.080
Yeah, it's a good thing they don't matter, right?
03:42:09.860
Yeah, I guess I don't bring anything to the table.
03:42:35.140
Yeah, well, that's astrology is planets, but that doesn't really correlate with...
03:43:12.260
I think you're living a double secret life, so your parents don't find out.
03:43:21.760
Because your parents are watching the stream, I feel like you're not being honest.
03:43:27.680
I like to be strict with myself because, honestly, they raised me a certain way,
03:43:32.320
and I actually like to enforce strict rules or boundaries for myself because it feels empowering
03:43:42.880
You mentioned in your messages to us before the show, multiple groups of famous TikTok
03:43:47.360
boys and other TikTok stars are doing the most to get my attention.
03:43:51.360
The groups are actually enemies in the entertainment industry.
03:43:54.400
They desperately want to be my boyfriend because of the way I view life, and they think I'm the
03:44:00.920
Most of them look like bad boy players, and keep in mind, I'm still the the virgin, lol.
03:44:17.560
What's the, have you, what's the, have you gone like third base?
03:44:28.600
So, when a man and a woman love each other very much.
03:44:49.920
In acting class, because I'm an actress, they teach you how to do it there.
03:45:05.400
Have you only ever kissed people in acting class?
03:45:18.660
There was acting class, but then did you have, like, a role?
03:45:26.020
It was a script, which is, after I told my parents, you know, they kind of stick with
03:45:33.360
We just didn't like, I didn't like the acting class at all.
03:45:41.960
Was it just, like, a three-week course or something?
03:45:48.000
What was the, was it through, like, an acting school?
03:45:52.140
Or, why the fuck, they don't, why would they teach, wait, what?
03:45:58.720
They probably have, like, written scripts and make you act them out, and there's a kissing
03:46:22.300
They, oh my gosh, my acting class, they, they teach you everything.
03:46:34.500
Did you, so it's like, yo, was this like some porn acting?
03:46:40.220
I went to class, and they're like, we're going to orgasm, and I'm like, what's orgasm?
03:46:44.140
You know, I'm like, I don't even know what that is at that time, okay?
03:46:47.980
When, when a man and a woman love each other very much.
03:46:58.300
I was going to say, that's like, Hollywood grooming.
03:47:05.900
I mean, still though, you don't need to do that.
03:47:16.640
And every single day, it was something like that.
03:47:20.640
So like in the class, were you just like diddling yourself trying to come?
03:47:35.900
You would actually do it or like acting it out?
03:47:49.260
I mean, I guess like in an acting capacity, like an actor could be tasked with in a scene.
03:47:58.440
And if you get cast for that role, then like you as an actor, if you needed to like learn that, you could get a separate code.
03:48:08.880
That doesn't seem appropriate for like an educational setting.
03:48:18.420
And like, I was in acting school in L.A. for years.
03:48:21.140
And it was like the most super, I've never had to do anything.
03:48:23.300
It was a very popular acting class in Hollywood.
03:48:40.580
This is like Scientology infiltrating Hollywood.
03:48:53.740
Like, they probably have a website that you can go and sign up for.
03:49:06.800
Like, was it specifically like a sexual like learning class for like certain scenes?
03:49:22.620
This one is the thing that I didn't tell my parents about.
03:49:24.980
But I told my mom that they had really inappropriate things that I did not feel comfortable about.
03:49:30.480
And they always chose me because they would pick on me.
03:49:54.740
I mean, because I mean, there's different types of acting classes.
03:50:03.440
It's just a group class for like, anyone can come.
03:50:13.300
It was the whole class on like, sexual experiences?
03:50:20.700
And like, especially when you did improv and comedy.
03:50:28.400
And I was so out of place because I didn't have any.
03:50:35.540
Do you know when they're at the poker table and they're like, kind of talking about sex?
03:50:53.000
And they're like, well, tell us about the tits.
03:51:08.980
The other day with my friends, we were talking about sex scenes in Hollywood and how it just
03:51:13.680
I feel like it's too gross and like it's doing too much.
03:51:16.440
And how like a movie can easily portray that action without actually doing it.
03:51:21.360
Because I recently watched a video on like how sex scenes are actually done and the barriers
03:51:41.280
Oh, if you were dating an actress and she was casted in a role to play a sex scene, like
03:51:47.200
making out full on sex scene, but there's a thin barrier, would that be cheating?
03:51:51.880
Me and my friends were having this debate earlier.
03:52:00.460
She's playing a role that she's in a sex scene and making out with another dude.
03:52:09.380
I don't know if it's like cheating, but like I would very much not like it and I would ask
03:52:25.000
For the money, like for the job, for the role, you're still willing to do it.
03:52:29.060
I don't know if it's cheating in the sense of like...
03:52:33.120
Because again, what makes it different since...
03:52:39.640
So you're doing it all of a sudden, like it's okay to do it then.
03:52:43.560
But if you're just like doing it without making money, it's like not a role.
03:52:47.280
I don't know if it's cheating, but it's a very...
03:52:55.900
Because you still have to be intimate with someone else.
03:53:00.220
Probably a discussion you have to have with your other, like significant other.
03:53:11.740
In any case, I would not want my partner to do the scene.
03:53:15.680
Whether I would categorize it as cheating, I'm leaning towards no, but I wouldn't want
03:53:27.540
I feel like people in relationships shouldn't do sex scenes.
03:53:35.420
But this whole, the whole school thing, that's so fucking weird.
03:53:59.580
Because it sounds like they almost focused on you.
03:54:15.060
It's a dark world of Hollywood, praying after young girls.
03:54:18.500
Like, you want to make money in the industry, become actors, and like, seemingly, hey, come
03:54:23.920
Like, this is what you've got to do in the industry.
03:54:38.580
Are taken advantage of because they feel like, oh, well, I have to go to this class.
03:54:41.720
I have to do this in order to make it in the industry.
03:54:46.760
It wasn't even like in a one-on-one private setting.
03:54:49.660
Like, this is in front of, what, 30 other people?
03:54:56.180
It was like that for the whole year and a half that you were there.
03:54:59.560
And then they would always sign me up for roles to where I was very uncomfortable with.
03:55:06.980
They wouldn't even get your consent to those roles.
03:55:12.940
I felt like I trusted my teacher too much when I shouldn't have.
03:55:17.260
At that time, I was 20, you know, like, a little younger.
03:55:26.280
Did you have any friends also participate in this class?
03:55:38.080
I was trying to Google it and see if, like, people had, like, mentioned it.
03:55:42.440
I had a group of, like, five girls all together.
03:55:46.900
Like, every time we go in, there's that group of five girls.
03:56:34.360
So, why can't men be straight up of what type of relationship they have?
03:56:40.800
Is emotional cheating worse than physical cheating?
03:56:49.840
They want the princess treatment, and they want to be chased.
03:57:01.220
Generally speaking, and we'll go around the table on this.
03:57:08.180
My generation, like, in their 20s, I feel like it's just, like, princess era.
03:57:15.120
Maybe because I'm in L.A., but in general, like I said on the first question, men ain't, you know?
03:57:24.380
Like, they just don't want to, like, back to the traditional thing.
03:57:39.760
You know, I've seen a lot of things of, like, commitment issues, emotionally unavailable.
03:57:49.360
Some people do, and I feel like men just be straight up with women.
03:57:58.760
And that's okay, because there's so many women out there that will accept, because they don't want that either.
03:58:02.720
They don't want to emotionally get attached to you.
03:58:07.040
Be straightforward if you actually want a relationship, because then what if the woman doesn't?
03:58:16.300
I don't understand why it's so wrong to say, you know what?
03:58:19.200
I just want to have sex with you, and that's it.
03:58:21.480
I don't want to have a full-on relationship with you.
03:58:25.580
If a guy ever said to you, I just want to have sex with you, and that's it, would you have sex with him?
03:58:32.840
I mean, that's the reason why they don't say it.
03:58:36.280
I understand, but it's like, there's other women that will, though.
03:58:47.080
Like, there's some degree of, like, most women, if you...
03:58:54.100
You cannot just walk up to a girl and say, hey, do you want to fuck?
03:59:00.140
Like, I don't want to be a boyfriend right now.
03:59:05.800
There are girls that are down for, like, friends with benefits, though.
03:59:13.260
I'm not recommending men should lie, but, like...
03:59:16.620
You wish men were more up front on what they are looking for?
03:59:22.660
I think the thing is, though, is that you're not saying...
03:59:26.480
When you say, I wish men were more up front, you're not saying, because I would accept whatever
03:59:32.760
they are proposing, you're saying, I wish men could be more up front, so I wouldn't...
03:59:39.940
Reserve the option and have more knowledge about their motives, so I could not date them.
03:59:46.260
Because if he doesn't want a relationship, and you want a relationship, and, you know,
03:59:49.740
he just wants to hook up, then, you know, you want to know.
03:59:52.760
I'm trying to explain, like, it from not my point of view, but men who are maneuvering
03:59:59.460
...who might not want to be in a relationship with you.
04:00:09.420
There's a certain degree of gamesmanship that men are going to undertake.
04:00:16.420
You know, obviously not up front with that sort of shit, but they're going to...
04:00:25.920
Like, a lot of guys will just say what you want to hear to get you in bed.
04:00:34.180
That was, like, a majority of the men that I've experienced.
04:00:37.060
But I also think that there's some component of...
04:00:43.680
They don't want to be like, yeah, I'm just down to fuck.
04:00:50.940
In the event that maybe it starts casual, but then it leads to something serious,
04:00:56.420
they want the plausible deniability to say, even though I was initially just looking for casual sex,
04:01:05.940
I don't want you to think I'm a slut type of thing, you know?
04:01:08.860
I mean, it's all about, like, people's opinion, like, what they want, and, like, the person.
04:01:16.080
Couldn't it be the case that there's a cohort of women that are also down for, like, friends with benefits or casual sex?
04:01:28.700
Couldn't it be the case that there's a cohort of women that would be down for one-night stands or casual sex or friends with benefits,
04:01:35.020
but they are going to play like they want a relationship?
04:01:50.700
Like, I'm in L.A., and I haven't seen, like, women really, like, oh, my God, man, like, let's have a relationship.
04:01:57.660
I put, you know, I missed, you know, like, I had sex with this guy, and then I'm going to go.
04:02:04.680
They're, like, I feel like girls are more up front to men and being, like, I don't want anything serious.
04:02:11.000
Fair, but, I mean, I said liberals, but it's, like, kind of true.
04:02:22.720
And, like, this is actually empowering when it's actually quite the opposite.
04:02:25.100
It's anti-empowering for a woman to do that, and, like, I think a large part of the feminist movement has prayed into men, which is why, you know, you said men ain't crap now.
04:02:36.060
Well, do you not think, like, women are kind of to blame for that?
04:02:39.100
Because women have been saying, like, I can do it myself, that, like, feminist mentality, to where then men are, like, all right, then, you know, you pay for the first date.
04:02:48.000
Like, I'm not going to be that masculine man because the whole feminist movement is telling me toxic masculinity and embracing my own masculinity is toxic, but it's really the opposite.
04:02:56.340
We should be encouraging men to be a masculine man, be the provider, when that's really what women want.
04:03:02.180
Because even the feminist liberal, they still want to settle down eventually, and they're still going to have a kid, but then it's a problem when the man wants to provide for the household.
04:03:10.120
Like, no, I can do it myself, but then are they really being a mother and a wife?
04:03:13.380
So it's, like, this whole contradiction, I think, between, if you look at first-wave feminism to now, it's, like, a funny thing.
04:03:19.480
First-wave feminists did not fight for your right to be a hoe.
04:03:24.240
Because now it's been completely distorted decades later, or really centuries later, of, okay, women can sleep around, and that's all of a sudden women's empowerment, but it's not.
04:03:38.820
Like, yeah, there's consequences to your actions, but I can still do it, you know?
04:03:43.940
Like, a girl, a woman could sleep with whoever she wants.
04:03:49.080
Guys are up front, but they're always going to naturally, instinctually want a relationship and be with a woman, where a girl holds that power.
04:03:57.400
And I feel like women nowadays more, it's the feminist side that are, like, I can sleep around with whoever I want with no consequences.
04:04:03.520
And, I mean, that's the same thing with abortion, how that comes into play, too.
04:04:07.100
It's, like, well, I can sleep with whoever I want.
04:04:10.960
Let's have abortions, and I can continue to be empowered.
04:04:20.820
I used to do, but I hopped off, and I feel great.
04:04:34.460
I had the IUD for six years and got off of it three months ago.
04:04:39.980
I didn't have a period for six years of my life.
04:04:43.280
And I feel like a huge part of the birth control movement with feminism and, like, you know, take control of your body is actually harming women more.
04:04:51.800
I mean, it's already statistically, like, women are attracted to different men when you're on birth control versus off birth control.
04:04:59.160
And it's like we've bought into this lie that this is empowerment when, really, you're harming yourself.
04:05:18.040
I mean, it prevents pregnancy, but you could have lifelong.
04:05:27.380
But the thing is, when you get on it, you don't actually know what the side effects are to you and your attraction.
04:05:33.900
You also don't, like, realize the side effects that it has on you until you get off of it.
04:05:38.700
I mean, I did get off of it for, like, a couple months and nothing changed.
04:05:51.020
But I went off it and then I went back to get it again.
04:05:52.960
I think you have to be off of it for, like, a consecutive period of time.
04:06:02.900
But, like I said, they medically found cancer cells in me when I was younger.
04:06:10.020
See, and I will say that there are certain medical conditions where birth control, estrogen,
04:06:29.160
Birth control has been sold as this one-size-fits-all.
04:06:33.680
14-year-olds are going to their gynecologist and saying, like, oh, I just got my period.
04:06:38.660
When I got off my birth control, my OB was like, are you sure?
04:06:42.640
Like, totally gaslit me and telling me, like, I'm so not validated.
04:06:50.860
And I just think, like, women have largely just been sold, like, this is your one-size-fits-all.
04:06:57.600
I mean, there's different types of birth control.
04:06:59.220
Like, they can actually regulate some of the ones that they put.
04:07:02.440
They can put less hormones or more hormones in you.
04:07:18.160
Can't you buy birth control, like, over-the-counter now?
04:07:27.380
And it's the first ever over-the-counter, or over-the-counter pill birth control.
04:07:33.340
So, it's just like, you know, if you were to get a pack of birth control pills prescribed.
04:07:41.340
It's even going to be available in some gas stations.
04:07:45.900
Because think of how many 13- or 14-year-old girls who may want to be sexually active,
04:07:51.580
And so, all of a sudden, they don't go to the doctor's office.
04:07:55.600
Think of the girls that are going to abuse it and overtake medications.
04:07:58.960
And I think it's just highly unregulated and, like, not allowed.
04:08:02.960
But it's being pushed because, like, this is accessible for underserved communities.
04:08:07.000
But, I mean, it's been proven that underserved communities and, you know, poor areas,
04:08:13.260
It's because, you know, they want you on birth control
04:08:15.220
and they want you to have more and more abortions so you don't actually get pregnant.
04:08:18.880
And it's the younger you are, the younger you started.
04:08:21.240
I mean, there's girls literally getting on birth control now at 11, 12, 13.
04:08:23.880
I mean, I would rather be in birth control than, like, have a child, low-key.
04:08:27.000
So you're saying, is your toxic ex-boyfriend just blasting?
04:08:33.460
No, but I'm just saying, like, even if he doesn't...
04:08:39.540
I'm just saying, you said you don't want to have a kid.
04:08:49.480
I'm not going to say it, but connect to the dots.
04:08:53.120
I still want to, like, be protected, like, as much as I can, you know?
04:09:00.460
If you're, like, sexually active, but if you're not...
04:09:03.580
I mean, my parents never educated me, like, in, like, what sex was and, like, birth control
04:09:09.200
They never did, and I wish they did so I could actually go with them, you know, to, like,
04:09:14.120
actually get something, you know, together or something like that.
04:09:18.740
Like, I had to, like, find out about sex in the playground on, like, elementary school.
04:09:33.800
I think what's crazy is that women don't actually know that you can only get pregnant.
04:09:37.100
What, on the fucking monkey bars you guys were talking about that shit?
04:09:44.620
They eventually educate you about it in, like, middle or high school.
04:09:55.780
Well, sex ed now is starting, like, frickin' five-year-olds.
04:09:58.560
But I went to private school, so they teach you sex ed differently, actually.
04:10:02.940
But, I mean, public school, sex ed is, like, just...
04:10:05.140
Is it when a man and a woman, they love each other very much?
04:10:08.380
Yeah, they, like, emphasize, like, make sure you're married, make sure you're married.
04:10:15.700
And when they love each other so much, a baby comes out.
04:10:17.860
And then nine months later, the stork delivers.
04:10:22.260
Here's the thing about birth control, though, is women can only get pregnant three to five
04:10:26.920
So why are we medicating ourselves for 365 days a year when we can really only get pregnant
04:10:33.700
So if you just track your cycle properly, don't have sex those days.
04:10:45.200
I actually think, like, five days out of the month, that's when you wear the condom.
04:11:06.060
She used this thing where it tells you when you're fertile.
04:11:12.300
Like, it's like this thing where it tells you...
04:11:15.420
Because if you check your temperature, there's a whole thing about body regulation.
04:11:24.120
Like, if you're a Taurus, if it's the month of April, you actually can't get pregnant
04:11:31.300
If the moon isn't risen and it's, like, full moon, you're being protected by the Taurus energy.
04:11:42.160
So, if you're fucking Aries, whatever the fuck month that is, you're good to go.
04:11:52.760
We have to wrap up here in about 10-ish, 10 minutes or so.
04:12:42.100
Stallion, thank you for the five community sub gifts.
04:12:44.500
The Italian Stallion, thank you for the Tier 1.
04:12:53.400
Okay, so final thoughts here before we wrap up.
04:12:57.220
Is there anything before we wrap up that you just really want to get off your chest?
04:13:23.480
Stifler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
04:13:35.360
I think I'm a Latina queen, so I'm going to give myself a 10 out of 10.
04:14:07.920
I thought it was another month this month, too.
04:14:18.160
Pride Month was in June, but, you know, now it's every month, apparently.
04:14:31.860
So, you're a 10 out of 10 because you're a Latina queen or just for other reasons?
04:14:35.320
I mean, inside and out, I'd say I'm a good person.
04:14:45.900
I always say, if you don't have a panza, you don't have a chansa.
04:15:19.680
Honestly, she talked some shit about my podcast recently.
04:15:31.080
I know we have our differences, Sydney Watson, Dr. Sydney Watson, but I wish...
04:16:14.220
She's a Mexican-Australian, come to think of it.
04:16:21.160
It's getting hard to cross the border in the U.S.
04:16:42.380
I would love to hear an Australian person speak Spanish.
04:17:10.420
I mean, that's a whole other podcast topic, dude.
04:17:30.420
She immigrated from the Philippines when she was five.
04:17:43.280
My mom is a little bit more than half, but yeah, she's half.
04:17:49.800
Other than that, I'm like British, Scottish, like very European.
04:17:57.000
Like, my mom was born in Manila and like immigrated to the States.
04:18:16.720
And like she's like a more light-skinned Filipina.
04:18:28.700
Like I am a first generation, like literally American after my mom.
04:18:53.820
Like an illegal immigrant from the Netherlands.
04:18:56.060
Like if you want to come to the United States, come legally, do it the right way, get the papers.
04:18:59.880
Like I know it takes time and I know it takes effort, but like I know people that it took
04:19:03.800
Half of my Filipino family that are like my Filipino side of my family are all immigrants.
04:19:11.000
What if she just wants to get married, to get citizenship?
04:20:06.220
I thought it seemed like you were upset by the immigration conversation.
04:20:09.280
I wish we could have talked about this if we had more time.
04:20:22.940
That was definitely Morgan who brought that up.
04:20:26.260
Morgan, why you got to throw me under the bus like this?
04:20:30.840
I take full accountability for that because I don't remember what you said, but then
04:20:42.640
Like my grandma literally had to come here because she was getting, she was forced to
04:20:52.080
But when you have no life and that's your life and you have nothing and you will take,
04:20:56.880
you will fucking fight, you will walk barefoot through the night of like the fucking terrible
04:21:08.180
I know, but I feel like, I feel, I feel like you're upset at me.
04:21:15.120
Trust me, because I have friends that are like super like, yeah, mega.
04:21:26.040
And it's not even political, because I'm not political at all.
04:21:31.840
Wait, Nick, can you pull up the photo that we showed last time?
04:21:48.620
I feel like I've interrogated you quite a bit, though, so I don't know.
04:22:06.100
What if it was just, like, false the whole time?
04:22:11.380
Well, don't you have to say allegedly to everything that you do?
04:22:14.360
Because then you get, like, in a lawsuit and stuff like that.
04:22:45.140
He said he was going to put in this big TV, too.
04:23:01.560
Why didn't he just, like, tilt his head, though?
04:23:05.420
Nick, right-click on the photo and do open an image and new tab.
04:23:15.200
You know, like, if he saw the camera, he could have just...
04:23:38.400
If you were in bed with a guy and during the act, he called you another girl's name,
04:23:50.000
What if it was, like, you had kind of similar names?
04:23:56.320
What if it was, like, like, your name's Allie, right?
04:24:14.760
I'd be, like, I would literally stop and be, like, who is Gertrude?
04:24:59.160
Guys, give me, like, an old lady name that would be ridiculous to say.
04:25:10.900
Like, if you're with a girl and she's like, oh, Bartholomew.
04:25:15.920
Oh, Bartholomew is, like, an old, like, English.
04:25:20.240
I knew a Bartholomew and he went by Bartholomew.
04:25:21.580
Can you really talk dirty if the dude's name is Bartholomew, though?
04:25:28.860
What about, like, Meredith, Lucille, Debra, Martha, Helga, Agnes, Agnes, Lucille is such
04:25:36.300
a southern name, Debra, Mabel, Mabel, Matilda, Betty White, Blanche, Dorothy, Maxine, Blanche,
04:26:07.180
I feel like Dolores is coming back after, what was that show on HBO?
04:27:00.620
Trump family, they're great, but would not date Donald Trump.
04:27:09.660
He said, I don't like, I don't like dating older, older, older.
04:27:36.860
It was a small group, but it was really like, we had some good points of views.
04:28:00.200
Men just need to have masculinity and actually stand up and do something.
04:28:07.860
I feel like a lot of girls will go through one bad experience with like two guys and be like,
04:28:15.320
They have like two bad experiences with like fuck boys or like they pick the wrong dudes
04:28:20.300
and they're like, oh, all guys are fucking dicks.
04:28:23.320
I think my best advice is like, especially you, because you're still like, you know,
04:28:26.220
you're young 20s, like date as much people, different types as you can.
04:28:29.620
You don't have to necessarily sleep with them, but like, you know, just get to see what
04:28:33.400
Cause you know, I'm so tired of it going on date.
04:28:38.080
Like you'll be, you'll be friends with the guys.
04:28:39.900
I love, I always tell people like you should be friends with someone first and then see if
04:28:52.200
I don't think you should be friends with somebody first.
04:28:58.340
Why should a, that, that makes me question every single male friend you have.
04:29:02.800
If you should start as friends and then it should lead into a romantic relationship.
04:29:08.260
I think romantic relationships ought to start from the jump romantically.
04:29:14.060
Now, of course, look, if you're, if you have a friend and it develops, that's okay too.
04:29:20.400
But I don't, I'm not a, I certainly don't think it's wrong to like, from the moment you meet
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somebody for it to have like romantic undertones.
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Like if you're like friends in class first and then like it.
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But this idea that, oh, let's start as friends.
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No, because I think that's the dude just like being a P word because like the guy needs
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Kind of just like get to know each other, not just like over strictly friends first.
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No, but it's like if, as the guy, if, I mean, it's like a friend zone.
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Like if you're up, if you're being upfront with your romantic interest and she's like,
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I feel like a guy should just cut his losses at that point.
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I'm like, you're not that, you're not that into me if you want to be friends.
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I think if you're in a relationship, you should have no male friends.
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I do think it's a bit of a red flag if a girl has a lot of male friends.
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What if she just has like, like few male friends, you know?
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Are the, I think women can genuinely have friendships with men.
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It's not clear to me if men can genuinely have friendships with women.
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Because you know, if the girl told the guy, hey, I want to hook up, you know he's an idiot.
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If you're in a relationship, you know, you're not hanging out with a guy friend alone.
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You're not like late night calling a guy alone.
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But like if your boyfriend or husband is also friends with that person, like same thing with
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like, you know, there's multifamily friendships, family friends.
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That's, I mean, if it's, I think that's okay, but.
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Like most guys, most guys who you would consider to be your friends, if you were like, hey,
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Or maybe even if they're in a relationship, if you said, hey, do you want to hook up?
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Here, do you, you have a male friend you want to text?
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So I was going to say, text him and say, hey, do you want to hook up?
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I think if a guy has an opportunity, I think if he had an opportunity, that little door,
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Because girls put boundaries, but men obviously, you know, you know.
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Nine times out of ten is the girlfriend sending the guy.
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And then the guy is like, okay, well, I'll still be your friend.
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And I think there's, there's like a lot of male friends that are like, they like you
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and they're just biting their, maybe you're in a relationship.
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Like, that's on them if they want to think that and not be straightforward, you know?
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But it would make, it would perhaps make your boyfriend uncomfortable for you to have a
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relationship, a friendship with somebody who like has these ulterior motives.
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Because if he didn't tell me, how am I supposed to know?
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I know, I know a lot of like gay best friends that are like best friends with girls.
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I had a response to something, but it slipped my mind.
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I said about her friend, something about her friend.
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I said if you never like actually, if they never tell you, like how, how would I know?
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Oh, like if the guy who's your friend doesn't have a review.
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Every single male friend of yours wants to sleep with you.
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No, but like if they're secretly like waiting for the opportunity for you to be single,
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I think, but I do think that you like can have like a genuine relationship.
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For me, like for me personally, like I grew up with older brothers, so it's easy for me
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He used to like be with girls and stuff like that, but he has like a whole story and I
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love stories about like dating because it's so interesting.
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I love the main comments about like the shower.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
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Thank you to the panel, those of you who showed up.
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Thank you to Britt, who is helping with timestamps.
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Any women who want to be on the show, DM at whatever.
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Any women who are considering a labia place to eat, my DMs are open.
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I'll convince you as part of my nonprofit organization, Big Labia Matter, to, you know, not.
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My first boyfriend, I never did anything because then, like, it was Christian.
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And then the second one, I didn't really do anything, like, because I was still, like,
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And then the third one, like, the third boyfriend that I had, I did do stuff with.
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I stand by what I said last podcast, and I'm not going to share, and I think, and I'm not
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disclosing, but I do think that body count is something that should be discussed in a
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serious relationship because it does matter, which is why I don't share.
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I gotta come in here in Madison's defense, right?
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She has been in a long-term relationship with Franklin.
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As far as me, as a man of God, I do not share my body count.
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So, the schedule for next week, the schedule for next week, or sorry, this week, we are
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Tuesday is 5 p.m., assuming we don't have any hiccups with our pre-show.
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We've been pretty good with starting, like, pretty much on time for, what, the past month
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It's been really consistent with starting on...
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You know, we used to be, like, 10, 15, 20, 30 minutes late a lot of time.
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Thursday show, we have a very, very, very special guest coming.
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I don't want to reveal it because, I don't know, I don't want anything to throw up, you
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But, be sure to tune in Tuesday, tune in Thursday.