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00:02:37.320 Without further ado,

00:02:37.980 we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.

00:02:39.380 So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.

00:02:42.140 Go ahead.

00:02:42.780 Hi.

00:02:43.120 I'm Christy.

00:02:44.060 I'm 33 years old.

00:02:45.520 And I'm an OnlyFans model.

00:02:48.420 I'm Monica.

00:02:50.480 I am 22.

00:02:51.920 I do hair.

00:02:52.820 And I'm in airport customer service.

00:02:56.240 You're a hairstylist?

00:02:57.820 I wouldn't say hairstylist.

00:03:00.100 Oh, you cut hair?

00:03:00.920 No.

00:03:01.320 Are you a barber?

00:03:02.300 No.

00:03:02.680 What do you mean?

00:03:03.520 Like, what do you...

00:03:03.980 Like, I braid hair.

00:03:04.800 I do wigs.

00:03:06.080 Oh, okay.

00:03:06.620 Yeah.

00:03:07.520 So you don't cut hair?

00:03:08.880 No.

00:03:09.460 Okay.

00:03:10.220 Because I know people who cut hair, that's kind of a red flag.

00:03:13.720 No.

00:03:14.180 I don't care.

00:03:14.580 Okay.

00:03:14.940 Okay.

00:03:15.300 All right.

00:03:17.040 Hi.

00:03:17.500 My name is Yuan.

00:03:18.260 I'm 36.

00:03:19.300 And I am a physician, specifically a neurologist.

00:03:22.320 You're an MD.

00:03:23.200 Is that correct?

00:03:23.860 I am.

00:03:25.600 And you said you're a neurologist?

00:03:28.440 I am.

00:03:28.820 That's right.

00:03:29.380 All right.

00:03:29.740 Rock and roll.

00:03:31.280 Hi.

00:03:31.700 I'm Kelly.

00:03:32.380 I'm 21.

00:03:33.540 And I'm a personal stylist.

00:03:34.720 And I also do content creation through Nordstrom.

00:03:37.520 And I'm currently also a student.

00:03:39.940 You do content creation through Nordstrom?

00:03:42.480 Mm-hmm.

00:03:43.080 Okay.

00:03:43.620 Yeah.

00:03:44.340 Like, you post to their pages or social media manager?

00:03:49.460 Yes.

00:03:49.720 I have my own page where they'll use my content on their own pages.

00:03:53.420 And then I also do styling videos for the website.

00:03:56.740 Okay.

00:03:57.140 Cool.

00:03:57.400 Yeah.

00:03:58.800 Hello.

00:03:59.080 My name is Madison.

00:04:00.100 I'm 18 years old.

00:04:01.500 I work for the Bryan Atlas.

00:04:03.580 What the fuck?

00:04:05.020 Oh, okay.

00:04:06.100 Well, normally you say whatever podcast, so I guess it's one and the same.

00:04:10.100 I decided to change it up.

00:04:12.020 I'm a host at a bar as well as a student at Santa Barbara City College studying business.

00:04:16.660 Okay.

00:04:17.100 Cool.

00:04:17.900 I'm Alex.

00:04:18.920 I'm the host of the Spillover podcast and also Real Alex Clark on YouTube.

00:04:24.500 Did you say age?

00:04:25.780 Oh, and I'm 30.

00:04:27.180 30.

00:04:27.620 Okay.

00:04:28.880 I'm also 30.

00:04:29.960 My name is Isaac Butterfield.

00:04:31.260 I'm a comedian from Australia.

00:04:32.620 Also a YouTuber.

00:04:33.780 An author.

00:04:34.720 And a father.

00:04:36.400 Yeah.

00:04:36.840 Great.

00:04:37.220 And you've reacted to a couple of our videos.

00:04:39.460 I have.

00:04:40.000 I have.

00:04:40.840 You've got a great channel, man.

00:04:41.900 Oh, thank you, brother.

00:04:42.540 I was really hoping Al Weezy would be in here today.

00:04:45.200 Next time.

00:04:46.020 Next time.

00:04:46.720 I will make the flight back just for Al.

00:04:48.920 Perfect.

00:04:49.920 We'll make it happen.

00:04:51.880 Put me next to her, please.

00:04:53.640 Three times a charm.

00:04:54.940 I'm the QPill.

00:04:56.840 Behavioral scientist.

00:04:57.760 Certified relationship coach.

00:04:58.940 Also author of YouTube.

00:05:01.520 I say YouTube.

00:05:02.780 I'm the author of Amazon's number one new coming book, The QPill and Overdose of Reality,

00:05:07.380 The Remedy for a Cold World.

00:05:08.520 And I do content creation as well.

00:05:11.380 I'm a YouTuber.

00:05:12.720 Anti-political correct.

00:05:14.420 Anti-politically correct.

00:05:15.960 Okay.

00:05:16.120 I'm also 30 years old.

00:05:17.620 30.

00:05:18.020 The 30 corner.

00:05:19.360 It's the 30 corner.

00:05:20.500 The old corner.

00:05:21.360 There you go.

00:05:22.320 All right, great.

00:05:22.880 So we're going to go around the table one more time.

00:05:25.660 So what is your current relationship status?

00:05:28.460 Are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married,

00:05:33.420 polycule, sex, cult?

00:05:35.240 If you're single, how long have you been single?

00:05:37.540 And what's your longest relationship?

00:05:39.060 Go ahead.

00:05:39.880 My longest relationship is three years.

00:05:42.900 I got out of my last relationship five months ago.

00:05:46.740 And I got engaged in the DMs from my ex, a different ex, one of my exes.

00:05:55.480 So I think we're getting married.

00:05:57.220 Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:05:59.260 You were, okay, you were on the last show.

00:06:01.080 You were here on Tuesday.

00:06:02.200 Yeah, I know.

00:06:02.900 A lot has changed.

00:06:03.360 You were single.

00:06:04.520 Yeah.

00:06:05.340 And now you're engaged to your ex-boyfriend.

00:06:08.460 Well, yeah, we got engaged in the DMs.

00:06:10.700 He proposed in a DMs?

00:06:12.700 That's special.

00:06:13.120 Yeah, he's a Republican and he comes from a traditional family,

00:06:16.340 which I know no one believes I can get.

00:06:19.600 But, yeah, so I had to stay here a lot longer.

00:06:22.460 I didn't expect to be here.

00:06:24.240 So one of the only people I knew in L.A. was my Eskimo sister.

00:06:29.140 And our ex, like I keep in touch with him anyway,

00:06:32.660 and I asked him why he's not a dad.

00:06:34.520 And he asked me if he could make me a mom.

00:06:36.800 And I said, it depends where we live.

00:06:38.220 And he said, Florida.

00:06:39.180 So I said, do I have to change my relationship status for the podcast?

00:06:43.520 And he thought it'd be a good idea.

00:06:44.920 And I asked him if this was a marriage proposal, and he said it was.

00:06:49.200 So we're planning a life together.

00:06:51.820 Wait, so, okay, a couple points of clarification.

00:06:54.280 You said your longest relationship were three years.

00:06:56.720 Is this the ex that you're not engaged to?

00:06:58.900 No, no, no.

00:06:59.620 A different ex.

00:07:00.740 Oh, so actually this ex, he kind of called me out the other night

00:07:05.780 because I ghosted him to get into the three-year relationship.

00:07:09.100 And then when we broke up, we started talking again.

00:07:14.560 Wow.

00:07:15.420 So, well, the last time you were on the show,

00:07:19.520 you said you were in the talking stage with a couple people, correct?

00:07:22.000 Yeah.

00:07:22.940 How many prior to this engagement, how many talking stages were you in?

00:07:27.540 You said it was a few.

00:07:28.180 Yeah, like I was talking to two different guys that live in Miami.

00:07:34.540 Oh, just two?

00:07:36.220 There was a few more, wasn't there?

00:07:37.540 Well, like two main contenders.

00:07:39.800 Two main.

00:07:40.380 Okay, so you had two main pieces, I guess.

00:07:42.760 Yeah, two like main.

00:07:43.920 How many side pieces did you have?

00:07:46.340 I mean, I don't know, do my fans count because I got to, I mean, it depends.

00:07:52.660 Sure.

00:07:53.260 I had two main contenders.

00:07:54.820 To be honest, the ex, I didn't expect him to want to mom me up.

00:08:00.360 So that kind of came out of the blue.

00:08:03.400 I do talk to him a lot, but I think it was the fact that I was hanging out with my Eskimo sister

00:08:08.720 that I even asked him about the kids thing.

00:08:12.020 And then, you know, things just escalated from there.

00:08:14.560 There's a lot going on.

00:08:15.440 Yeah, wait, that's a lot.

00:08:17.640 So are you planning to have kids too?

00:08:18.300 I'm still over the proposal in the DM.

00:08:19.800 Yeah, so as long as he moves to Florida, like he says, yes, we will be having kids in a traditional household.

00:08:27.040 Wait, so did he see you on the podcast and that's what?

00:08:31.800 We talk in the DMs, like we keep in touch a lot.

00:08:35.980 But he did react to like a story.

00:08:39.820 Okay.

00:08:40.140 And then I was going to hit him up since I was like with my Eskimo sister anyway.

00:08:43.880 And we were like, we're just confused why you're not a dad by now because like he's

00:08:50.240 kind of in the public eye.

00:08:51.560 So like I'm sure he has a lot of opportunities.

00:08:54.620 And Nick, can you pull up that photo?

00:08:57.360 You know, the photo of the guy?

00:08:58.860 I think I know who this might be.

00:09:01.500 Nick, you know which photo to pull up?

00:09:03.720 I don't think you do.

00:09:05.560 It's not the website.

00:09:07.360 It's the photo.

00:09:09.520 So you're not single anymore.

00:09:11.080 You got it, Nick?

00:09:12.260 I'm apparently engaged.

00:09:13.940 But I'm waiting.

00:09:14.580 I'm waiting to look at the hashtag.

00:09:15.280 There's only one photo.

00:09:16.960 But he did say it was a marriage proposal.

00:09:19.940 I specifically asked.

00:09:21.980 Is it this guy?

00:09:23.160 Oh my God.

00:09:23.860 I wish it was him so badly.

00:09:26.640 Like, I don't want him to like cheat on Melania or anything.

00:09:30.360 But like.

00:09:30.600 He wouldn't do that.

00:09:32.640 But yeah.

00:09:34.120 If he proposed, I would totally trump his daddy.

00:09:38.800 So yeah, I would ghost this guy for a second time, to be honest.

00:09:44.240 Wait, hold on.

00:09:44.740 You would ghost the guy who you're now engaged to for Donald Trump?

00:09:48.440 Yeah.

00:09:48.640 Oh, yeah.

00:09:49.240 Oh, yeah.

00:09:50.080 The fuck?

00:09:51.080 What is it about Trump?

00:09:52.480 What is it about Trump that you like?

00:09:54.060 Everything.

00:09:54.960 I think.

00:09:55.980 Like, it's the way he talks.

00:09:57.680 He's got riz.

00:09:58.660 It's the way he talks.

00:09:59.380 Out of all the presidents, President Trump has the most riz.

00:10:01.980 No one can deny that, whether you're on the right or the left.

00:10:04.840 What is riz?

00:10:05.820 What is Eskimo sisters?

00:10:07.120 Where am I?

00:10:08.120 Welcome to America.

00:10:09.200 An Eskimo sister is somebody.

00:10:11.320 There's like two girls who have hooked up with the same guy.

00:10:13.540 Oh, like.

00:10:14.280 Oh.

00:10:14.520 Or like, you've kissed the same guy.

00:10:16.300 So it's like.

00:10:16.600 Right.

00:10:16.760 We found out after the fact.

00:10:18.640 We actually found out at a wedding shower.

00:10:20.640 Our mutual friends, like, by the way, you both.

00:10:23.540 Yeah.

00:10:24.100 Jeez, twins.

00:10:24.860 Yeah.

00:10:25.500 Sick.

00:10:26.140 But then we ended off because we loved Trump so much.

00:10:28.740 And then we had like the guy in common.

00:10:30.320 And now we became friends.

00:10:33.220 I'm just curious how in a less than a seven day period, you went from being, having multiple

00:10:39.680 talking stages, multiple situationships to not being engaged.

00:10:44.500 Okay.

00:10:45.080 I don't know.

00:10:46.060 Like, it just.

00:10:46.780 Why did you say yes?

00:10:48.280 What?

00:10:48.720 Why'd you say yes?

00:10:49.960 Um, because, well, I mean, he's asked.

00:10:52.440 He's told me he's wanted to date me before.

00:10:54.400 This isn't like anything new.

00:10:56.140 So you're going to marry someone.

00:10:57.360 Wait.

00:10:58.560 I'm waiting until he puts a ring on it.

00:11:00.400 But like, why would you say.

00:11:01.420 But even if he puts a ring on it.

00:11:02.820 I mean, I like him.

00:11:04.280 How old are you?

00:11:05.420 33.

00:11:06.780 That's.

00:11:08.740 No, nothing.

00:11:09.460 No, nothing.

00:11:09.920 I like the way you use quotes, though.

00:11:12.160 Well, yeah.

00:11:12.820 There's a lot of quotes going.

00:11:13.920 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:15.000 Who are you quoting?

00:11:17.560 I'm just saying, like, you never know if it's going to happen.

00:11:20.980 But.

00:11:21.160 No.

00:11:21.600 We had a conversation.

00:11:23.080 It definitely might not happen after this.

00:11:24.680 Well, that's why I'm doing quotes, but.

00:11:27.320 What does power mean on your hand?

00:11:28.300 I'm moving pretty fast here.

00:11:29.480 Power is in the palm of my hand.

00:11:31.020 Can you show it to this camera right here?

00:11:32.520 Oh, those are like power hand jobs or something.

00:11:34.020 Well, that's why it's faded, to be honest.

00:11:36.540 Oh, gross.

00:11:37.040 Actually.

00:11:38.760 It used to just be, like, really black and dark.

00:11:41.880 And there was no holes in the middle of it.

00:11:43.960 So you got.

00:11:44.680 It got faded from hand jobs?

00:11:46.020 Yeah.

00:11:46.980 So it's been walking around smeared dicks.

00:11:48.460 Hold on.

00:11:49.780 My ex got it.

00:11:50.240 33 tracks.

00:11:51.900 You being 33 tracks, apparently.

00:11:55.860 I don't know.

00:11:56.020 I don't know what that means.

00:11:56.940 Mr. Meatball, can you.

00:11:57.920 What do you mean?

00:11:58.600 Can you elaborate on that one?

00:11:59.700 It means it makes sense.

00:12:00.980 It means it makes sense that she's 33.

00:12:02.980 But, I mean, what he's referring to, I don't know.

00:12:05.380 All right.

00:12:05.880 Oh, thank you.

00:12:06.720 Anything?

00:12:07.200 All right.

00:12:07.860 I got it.

00:12:08.020 Do you think he'd be upset by the whole you would.

00:12:11.220 Donald Trump thing?

00:12:12.220 The Donald.

00:12:12.600 Yeah.

00:12:12.860 Oh, no, no, no.

00:12:13.480 He's been seeing my IG stories from the start.

00:12:16.600 He knows my love for Trump.

00:12:18.180 We both love him, but he doesn't love him like I do.

00:12:22.660 Do you think your now fiancé would call off the engagement if he could get with Trump?

00:12:26.860 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:12:28.180 Okay.

00:12:28.700 He doesn't go that.

00:12:29.520 No, no, no, no.

00:12:30.120 Okay.

00:12:30.140 All right.

00:12:30.640 What about you?

00:12:32.060 I'm in a relationship.

00:12:33.680 I've been in a relationship three years.

00:12:36.560 We just hit our three-year anniversary last month.

00:12:41.420 I like to say I'm happily married.

00:12:43.800 I do plan on getting married to him, so.

00:12:45.800 Wait, so are you engaged, or?

00:12:48.120 No.

00:12:49.500 But I like to say I'm happy.

00:12:50.880 Like, that's my little, if people ask, like, oh, are you in it?

00:12:53.440 Yeah, that's my quotes.

00:12:55.200 If people are like, oh, you're in a relationship, I'm like, I'm happily married.

00:12:59.960 But you're not.

00:13:00.520 But I'm not.

00:13:01.060 But I'm not.

00:13:02.020 Okay.

00:13:03.140 But it's the quotes.

00:13:03.920 But it's the quotes.

00:13:05.300 It's the quotes.

00:13:05.900 It's fine.

00:13:07.100 Okay.

00:13:07.700 Your wifey to your.

00:13:09.220 Yeah.

00:13:09.860 Okay.

00:13:10.280 Okay.

00:13:10.800 Gotcha.

00:13:11.660 And is this your longest relationship?

00:13:14.040 Yeah.

00:13:14.720 Okay.

00:13:15.040 What about you?

00:13:16.340 I'm in a relationship for about two years, and my longest relationship is about two and

00:13:20.540 a half.

00:13:21.900 All right.

00:13:23.300 I've been in a relationship for a little bit over a year and a half, and it's my longest

00:13:27.720 one.

00:13:28.480 All right.

00:13:29.680 I'm very happily in a committed relationship, and this is my longest relationship.

00:13:35.100 It's been 11 months, almost a year.

00:13:38.160 I just want to say prove y'all wrong, because y'all thought I was going to only be in it for

00:13:41.140 10 months.

00:13:43.220 Okay.

00:13:43.640 She has proved everyone wrong.

00:13:44.920 Go ahead.

00:13:46.000 I'm single.

00:13:46.940 I've been single for a little over a year, and my longest relationship is a year and a

00:13:51.360 half.

00:13:52.340 Okay.

00:13:52.700 I have been married for a year, and we've been together for the best part of a decade.

00:13:59.960 Been together for a decade.

00:14:01.120 Okay.

00:14:01.300 Yeah.

00:14:01.580 She's the funniest human I know.

00:14:03.860 So that's...

00:14:04.500 Does she also make YouTube content?

00:14:06.380 Yeah, we've got a YouTube channel together, Little Buttsman, and we have a podcast together,

00:14:10.400 the mum and dad show, where we have our son Atticus on.

00:14:12.880 We don't show his face that much, because people in the comment section are weird.

00:14:15.720 They try to diagnose people with...

00:14:17.620 There's a few YouTubers she watches, where they'll have their son or their daughter, and

00:14:22.480 they go, oh, I think that's definitely autism there.

00:14:24.600 They're in the comment section and whatnot.

00:14:26.120 So we sort of just hide his face or hold him towards us, that type of thing.

00:14:31.080 But she's hilarious.

00:14:32.480 She could easily be a comedian.

00:14:35.000 Okay.

00:14:35.440 But yeah, she's a lovely human.

00:14:38.140 Gotcha.

00:14:38.600 And Q, what about you?

00:14:40.200 I'm currently single, unmarried.

00:14:42.700 That's what that means.

00:14:44.200 Okay.

00:14:44.820 I'm enjoying the bachelor life right now.

00:14:47.360 Okay.

00:14:47.700 When I'm ready to settle down, I probably will, maybe in another two years or so.

00:14:52.180 Okay.

00:14:52.460 Do you have any girls in the picture?

00:14:56.360 A couple girls?

00:14:57.080 One girl?

00:14:58.120 Yeah.

00:14:58.720 All of the above?

00:14:59.540 All of the above.

00:15:00.320 Okay.

00:15:00.720 All of the above.

00:15:01.640 Okay.

00:15:01.920 I got options.

00:15:03.620 And so what's your longest relationship you've had?

00:15:07.060 My longest relationship was three years.

00:15:09.060 Three years.

00:15:09.620 Yeah, three years.

00:15:10.400 Okay.

00:15:11.340 Three years.

00:15:12.240 So you've got like a harem, basically.

00:15:15.720 I don't want to say a harem.

00:15:17.100 Okay.

00:15:17.660 But you do.

00:15:18.520 You do, but you don't want to say.

00:15:20.520 Yeah.

00:15:21.140 Okay.

00:15:21.400 You know.

00:15:22.200 Okay.

00:15:22.820 You're a handsome guy, so I mean, I don't, it's.

00:15:25.560 Is it a harem or is it a roster?

00:15:28.580 It probably would more be a roster, if we're being honest.

00:15:32.740 But there is a lady who takes the cake.

00:15:36.080 You have a main girl?

00:15:38.040 Yeah.

00:15:38.500 If I settle down, it's definitely going to be with her.

00:15:40.800 You know, she's leaving the rest of the girls in the dust right now, so.

00:15:43.540 Gotcha.

00:15:43.960 But she knows that you see other women, too.

00:15:46.000 Uh, yes.

00:15:46.540 I always communicate up front with the women that I date that I'm dating multiple women

00:15:50.760 until I decide that one is sufficient enough that I can put all my eggs in that basket.

00:15:57.220 Sure.

00:15:57.700 Until they show me that I can put all my eggs in that basket.

00:16:00.180 How do you keep up with so many?

00:16:02.720 Um, I don't.

00:16:05.080 It's hard.

00:16:05.900 I don't.

00:16:06.700 I don't.

00:16:06.960 It would be hard.

00:16:07.580 Yeah, they kind of, what they do is I'll talk to one here, one there.

00:16:11.620 We'll hang out.

00:16:12.220 We'll do whatever.

00:16:13.220 Then I let them go in the wind.

00:16:15.040 Then just, you know, when they pop back up, I'll be like, oh, you want to do this?

00:16:18.480 You want to go here?

00:16:19.460 They'll be like, sure.

00:16:20.280 You know, I would love to.

00:16:21.680 And I'm like, okay.

00:16:22.520 I think girls like that.

00:16:23.640 Yeah.

00:16:24.140 Yeah.

00:16:24.280 I never had that when I was young.

00:16:25.540 I was super desperate.

00:16:26.580 I was just like, please.

00:16:27.400 And I'm on my male mission.

00:16:28.480 So I'm on my mission in life to become who I want to become.

00:16:30.940 So until I'm happy with myself fully, then I can't fully give myself to a woman until

00:16:37.400 I'm content with where I'm at.

00:16:39.180 So they kind of have to wait it out.

00:16:40.520 So if they just happen to date somebody else.

00:16:46.160 FDG, thank you for the 50 gifted memberships.

00:16:49.660 Really appreciate it, man.

00:16:50.760 Does that trigger a fit check?

00:16:52.200 I don't know.

00:16:53.600 Go ahead with your point, though.

00:16:54.740 Oh, I was just saying, as I'm on my journey to figure out who I am, if they end up dating

00:16:59.620 somebody else, and I tell them, if you want to date somebody else, go ahead, date somebody

00:17:02.200 else.

00:17:02.540 I'll see you when I see you.

00:17:03.900 And the one who's sticking around, that'll be the one that I marry.

00:17:07.440 What qualities does that one girl have that doesn't compare to the others?

00:17:11.580 Oh, commitment and loyalty.

00:17:13.320 Respect.

00:17:14.080 Like, even when it's the most difficult of times, she's still there.

00:17:19.240 She pick up the phone when I call.

00:17:21.200 When I'm hurt, I can count on her to give me a massage, stretch me, cook me dinner when

00:17:25.900 I need dinner.

00:17:26.940 She does pretty much everything.

00:17:28.640 She's there.

00:17:29.120 It's loyalty.

00:17:29.620 Is that loyalty to women both ways, or is it just kind of one-sided?

00:17:33.720 It depends on the type of loyalty you're talking about, because for women, women are typically

00:17:38.360 sexually loyal, whereas a man, we're loyal with who we invest our time in.

00:17:42.560 So, she gets more time than any other woman would get.

00:17:45.820 Lucky her.

00:17:46.560 Yeah, we do more things together than any other woman.

00:17:49.180 So, if I want to be vulnerable, I feel I can be vulnerable with her.

00:17:51.880 I don't necessarily feel that I can be vulnerable or open up to other women.

00:17:54.920 But she knows that you are sexually active with other people.

00:17:58.720 Yep.

00:17:58.920 Okay.

00:17:59.260 And even then, it's seeing how she responds to the situation.

00:18:03.980 See, I don't actually just go out and actively just...

00:18:05.800 So, it's a test?

00:18:07.000 Not a test, but it's so she doesn't feel betrayed.

00:18:11.000 So, it's like, if I do this, know that I probably would do it if the opportunity presents itself,

00:18:15.360 but I'm not going out there hunting.

00:18:16.500 And, like, I'm not approaching women day in and day out, like, I'm trying to talk to you.

00:18:20.060 I'm trying to, you know, I'm not doing that.

00:18:21.820 But if I go somewhere, because I travel and things like that, if a woman pops up, she may come back to the hotel room.

00:18:27.320 She may not.

00:18:27.960 Is she okay with that?

00:18:28.820 And does she know that that's a possibility that might happen?

00:18:31.800 Yeah.

00:18:32.600 Okay.

00:18:32.940 She'd know now.

00:18:33.480 Yeah.

00:18:34.360 She knew before.

00:18:35.740 I wouldn't put her on the spot like that if she didn't.

00:18:37.580 She knew before.

00:18:38.660 She knew before.

00:18:39.280 Plan life.

00:18:39.740 Thank you for the gift and membership.

00:18:41.860 Sorry, Ryan.

00:18:42.240 Would you say that she's your best friend?

00:18:45.660 Yes.

00:18:46.040 I think that's the number one thing with the person you end up with.

00:18:48.740 That's what it becomes.

00:18:49.460 If you can grow old with that person, if you're happy to look at them when they're sitting there in a diaper when they're 80, 90 years old,

00:18:56.080 and still they make you laugh, they make you happy, that's your person.

00:18:58.960 Yeah.

00:18:59.340 So, just to clarify the loyalty part, it sounds like how you interpret loyalty from one way is different from loyalty the other way.

00:19:06.500 Because it's demonstrated in different ways behaviorally between men and women.

00:19:09.620 Yeah.

00:19:09.840 Yeah, as I said.

00:19:10.840 So, women, like I said, I can tell a woman, you're free to do whatever.

00:19:14.940 But if that woman doesn't want to do it, she just made her choice.

00:19:17.760 She doesn't want to do it.

00:19:19.060 And why she doesn't want to do it?

00:19:21.160 She's attached.

00:19:21.900 She's committed.

00:19:22.840 She wants to see what happens between us, what comes between us, you know, what develops between us.

00:19:27.620 Me, on the other hand, like I said, it's with my resources, where my time spent, where my pockets go.

00:19:31.900 So, that's typically how I show loyalty outside of sexual loyalty.

00:19:35.440 Do you think that your attention to, like, other women, say, though, interferes with your investment in this one girl?

00:19:42.740 No.

00:19:44.440 You don't?

00:19:44.940 How many side girls do you have?

00:19:48.020 How many side girls?

00:19:49.320 Side pieces, yeah.

00:19:50.240 Pieces.

00:19:50.500 Maybe only about four.

00:19:55.600 Four?

00:19:56.380 Yeah.

00:19:56.980 Maybe.

00:19:57.220 That's too many.

00:19:58.660 Maybe.

00:19:58.980 Maybe.

00:19:59.060 Maybe.

00:19:59.260 Maybe.

00:19:59.620 Maybe.

00:19:59.780 Maybe.

00:20:00.060 Maybe.

00:20:00.340 Maybe only about four.

00:20:01.620 You can't have four.

00:20:02.700 Maybe only about four.

00:20:04.380 You know.

00:20:04.760 There's a limit.

00:20:05.640 There's dudes out there desperately trying to find love.

00:20:08.080 And you're in here hogging everyone.

00:20:09.660 That's awesome.

00:20:11.340 Disgraceful.

00:20:12.080 So, I hear what you're saying that, you know, what.

00:20:14.160 I'm sorry.

00:20:14.760 What you want and maybe what your partners want are a little bit different.

00:20:17.520 So, hunts you to find loyalty a little bit differently.

00:20:19.420 I guess with ethical non-monogamy, which it sounds like what you're doing, a question

00:20:24.100 that often comes up for me is that time is a finite resource, right?

00:20:28.420 So, if you're spending time with one, you can't spend as much time with someone else.

00:20:32.300 So, how do you sort of think about that with time being such a finite resource?

00:20:38.040 Well, I'm actually a relationship guy.

00:20:40.980 Like, I like being in a relationship.

00:20:42.360 I like being committed to one woman.

00:20:43.920 But as I said, it's one of those things.

00:20:46.200 It sounds complex.

00:20:48.360 One sec.

00:20:49.040 Yo, FTG, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships.

00:20:52.820 Thank you very much.

00:20:53.980 It sounds complex, but I've been navigating it really well.

00:20:57.140 And this has been going on probably since 2016 with just me.

00:21:02.120 Well, I was in a relationship in 2018.

00:21:03.780 I was in a relationship for a year.

00:21:05.220 Was committed.

00:21:06.260 Monogamous.

00:21:06.860 Had no issues there.

00:21:07.820 But as I said, as I'm on my journey trying to obtain everything I'm trying to obtain with this newfound going viral and blowing up here and on YouTube and everything, just traveling, doing different podcasts.

00:21:20.320 I see a different side of life and I'm not ready to settle down yet.

00:21:25.420 So, it's kind of, if you want to stick with me through this journey as I gain more finances, as I gain more resources, then I'm going to remember that.

00:21:35.180 And when it's time for me to settle down, I do have that one girl in mind that I want to settle down with.

00:21:39.820 So, it's kind of like, I'm not going to stop dealing with women just because I'm by myself.

00:21:44.200 Is it that you love women so much that you need more than one?

00:21:48.280 Yes.

00:21:48.700 Yes.

00:21:49.180 There you go.

00:21:49.760 Yes.

00:21:50.260 I love women.

00:21:51.600 If she asked you to settle down now, would you say no?

00:21:56.020 If she asked me to settle down now, would I say no?

00:21:59.280 No, probably not.

00:22:01.140 Probably not.

00:22:02.260 Because...

00:22:02.580 So, you'd risk losing her for not waiting?

00:22:06.460 I mean, you'd risk losing her.

00:22:10.360 Yes.

00:22:10.760 That you can continue.

00:22:11.180 To get where I need to be?

00:22:11.960 Yeah.

00:22:12.220 Yeah.

00:22:12.360 Okay.

00:22:14.360 And I guess sometimes, like, depending on what you're doing in life and where you're going, sometimes you can't take everybody with you.

00:22:19.580 Right.

00:22:20.020 So, you have to...

00:22:21.620 But also, in saying that, sometimes you've got to make sacrifices.

00:22:24.140 Right.

00:22:24.360 So, if you see that this is a very important part of your life to be with this person that you love, then perhaps you need to find a different way to approach how you're creating content, traveling, all these types of things.

00:22:34.500 Mm-hmm.

00:23:04.480 So, in our lives, and, you know, from that, from other sort of sacrifices we've made, we now travel together everywhere.

00:23:10.640 I think that's the important thing.

00:23:12.040 It's like, you've got to see who will come with you on the journey.

00:23:15.080 Yeah.

00:23:15.480 But sometimes you need to sort of change your approach to the relationship to make sure that they are able to come with you on the journey.

00:23:21.780 Right.

00:23:22.360 I got a question for you.

00:23:23.660 Yeah.

00:23:24.500 Are all your girls, like, your main girl, did you say you had, there's one main girl, or there's, like, was it two main girls?

00:23:31.140 No, no, no, no.

00:23:31.860 One main girl and then four side girls, and then maybe there's some other girls that come and go.

00:23:37.400 No, I mean, the four that are my size, they, like, come and go.

00:23:40.600 Okay.

00:23:40.780 So, that's what I'm saying.

00:23:41.520 Like, I don't look for them.

00:23:43.140 I don't search for them.

00:23:44.060 Right.

00:23:44.240 If they hit me up, like, hey, I'm trying to link, I'm like, I'm cool with that.

00:23:47.460 Sure.

00:23:47.640 You know, I don't go looking for them.

00:23:49.080 Okay.

00:23:49.480 Yeah, I don't say, I don't say, yo, I need you to come over, or I want to see you.

00:23:52.480 They don't get that from me.

00:23:53.840 Yeah.

00:23:53.980 Most of the time, it's, the only one who gets that from me is the one that I talk to on a consistent basis.

00:23:58.120 Are they all, including your side girl, all loyal to you?

00:24:01.780 I have no idea, honestly.

00:24:03.400 Well, hopefully, they're not going to be after seeing this.

00:24:05.580 I have no idea.

00:24:07.440 Don't throw them under the bus.

00:24:09.140 I assume they aren't.

00:24:10.600 I assume they aren't.

00:24:11.320 Wait, even your main girl?

00:24:12.540 No, no, definitely not her.

00:24:13.620 I know she's loyal to you.

00:24:15.000 She's loyal.

00:24:15.580 I have a question.

00:24:16.140 Does the main girl, when watching this, know she's the main girl, or are the other four things you like to them?

00:24:21.620 No, no, she knows.

00:24:22.740 She knows.

00:24:23.680 She knows.

00:24:24.040 And she knows that she'll probably be the one that I marry.

00:24:29.160 Do the other four know that they're not that main at all?

00:24:33.300 They can't.

00:24:33.880 They couldn't be.

00:24:34.540 There's no way they could assume that.

00:24:36.680 We don't hang out enough.

00:24:38.000 We don't do enough.

00:24:38.740 We don't see each other enough.

00:24:40.160 I have a question.

00:24:41.200 Sorry.

00:24:41.840 So, you just told her, like, you wouldn't, if she was to say, like, drop everybody, drop all your money.

00:24:49.860 Sorry.

00:24:50.840 Yo, FDG, thank you for the gifted 50.

00:24:53.420 We'll get the fit check in a sec.

00:24:54.540 Go ahead.

00:24:54.820 She just said, like, if she was to say, drop everybody from me, you just say you wouldn't do it.

00:24:58.720 But you're saying, like, but you also say you like being in a relationship.

00:25:02.960 So, I'm kind of, I just need a little bit of clarity.

00:25:05.060 Like, I'm trying to figure out.

00:25:07.160 It's when I'm ready.

00:25:08.160 So, if she asks me to, and I'm not ready, I'm not going to.

00:25:12.160 Once I'm ready, if she wants to come along with that, then that's when, it'll be on my terms, basically.

00:25:17.860 It'll be on my terms.

00:25:19.060 It's that simple.

00:25:20.380 Okay.

00:25:20.820 And there's nothing you can do about it.

00:25:21.880 Some people are just down for a deacon.

00:25:23.680 Yeah.

00:25:27.360 That's the difference.

00:25:28.160 When she asked me that, she said, if she wants it, and it's like, she doesn't determine that, I'll gatekeep my commitment.

00:25:37.240 Okay.

00:25:37.560 So, the gatekeeping of commitment, let me just say this.

00:25:40.120 As somebody who is dating for marriage and has been since probably I was 18, I mean, my entire life.

00:25:47.480 I feel like I encounter that more often, and my friends and I are women who are looking to get married, and it's guys that give BS answers like that.

00:25:55.440 It's not the women who are out here.

00:25:57.440 Like, I feel like the chat makes it seem like all women are, like, hoes, and nobody wants to settle down or get married or live a traditional life.

00:26:03.320 Right.

00:26:03.480 I encounter way more men like that with that mindset than the opposite.

00:26:07.580 Wait.

00:26:07.840 You encounter way more men?

00:26:10.540 Basically.

00:26:11.320 Like, men who are like, I'll be ready when I'm ready, even though I'm 30 years old.

00:26:15.360 Like, I'm not going to get married.

00:26:17.100 Hold on, just a sec.

00:26:18.380 Hold on, just a sec.

00:26:18.420 Donated $100.

00:26:20.320 No.

00:26:20.480 Lots of cognitive dissonance coming from this guy.

00:26:23.720 Do you have a response to Mr. Meatball?

00:26:25.080 Lots of cognitive dissonance?

00:26:26.500 Oh, yeah.

00:26:27.120 I mean, I wouldn't completely deny that it's cognitive dissonance because, as I pointed out, I'm naturally a relationship guy.

00:26:33.440 So, this is kind of the route that I'm taking to ensure that I'm comfortable with myself.

00:26:38.800 Alex, excuse me.

00:26:39.280 But as I said, I'm not going to stop dating women just because, you know, I'm.

00:26:43.600 You did find, like, one in a thousand of girls, you know, though.

00:26:48.660 Like, you found a really great woman, and are you willing to risk that?

00:26:52.920 No, I'm holding on to her.

00:26:54.460 Yeah, but, like, what if she was, like, oh, like, you have, I want to get married, I want to be with you, and I only want to be with you.

00:27:02.080 I've been loyal to you, but I don't want you to see other people.

00:27:05.180 I don't want you to see other women.

00:27:06.220 Well, I'll give you an example.

00:27:08.020 I'll give you an example.

00:27:09.260 We had a conversation recently, right?

00:27:11.140 And I asked her if she felt that she deserved commitment because, essentially, when we first started dating, it was just us two.

00:27:18.400 I was monogamous.

00:27:19.320 I was exclusive.

00:27:20.420 And she was sabotaging.

00:27:22.040 She wasn't sure.

00:27:22.780 She was insecure.

00:27:23.720 She wasn't sure if this was what she wanted.

00:27:25.840 So, I told her, I said, well, if you're going to sabotage, then I'm going to date other people.

00:27:29.840 See, I didn't disclose that to y'all.

00:27:31.540 It started off rocky.

00:27:33.140 So, I said, I'm going to date other people because you don't know if you actually want this.

00:27:37.080 So, when I communicated that to her and I went on about my business, she popped back up like, no, I do want this.

00:27:42.720 I'm going to try.

00:27:43.360 And I said, nah, I want to date other people.

00:27:46.340 If you want to stick around and wait to see, you know, that's what happened.

00:27:52.380 So, I didn't start off that way.

00:27:53.920 How long have you guys, like, been talking?

00:27:56.740 It's been almost three years.

00:27:58.460 Okay.

00:27:58.940 Yeah, it's been almost three years.

00:28:00.100 That's why I said she's been here.

00:28:00.280 Way too.

00:28:00.740 How old is she?

00:28:01.300 She's been here.

00:28:02.200 She's 26.

00:28:03.360 Get out.

00:28:04.360 She's been here.

00:28:05.520 She's not going anywhere.

00:28:06.800 Because he's 30 and he's still like, I don't know what I want and I'm not ready to settle

00:28:11.100 down.

00:28:11.420 And she's getting close to that age where she's got to figure that out.

00:28:14.600 I know.

00:28:14.820 She's wasting time with you.

00:28:15.680 She could find a guy that wants to get married.

00:28:17.380 Yeah, but see, other guys ain't as dope as me.

00:28:20.100 So, it's difficult.

00:28:21.560 You don't want to rush for like...

00:28:22.680 Yeah, see, y'all forget that.

00:28:24.380 We're aware when girls don't want to date other guys.

00:28:26.640 We're aware when we're him, the cream of the crop for them.

00:28:29.860 So, if she's willing to wait, it's because she feels that she can't find better.

00:28:34.880 And maybe she can, but I'm willing to bet she can.

00:28:38.300 Thank you, FTG.

00:28:39.020 I don't think it's always that she can't find better.

00:28:42.240 I think most of the time, us as women, we look at your potential.

00:28:46.160 So, most of the time, we're staying around because we see potential that you're going

00:28:49.380 to get with us.

00:28:50.020 You're going to get over yourselves, see what you really have, and then come back to us.

00:28:55.580 So, I think that's what it is more than we can't find anybody better.

00:28:59.480 Because if we was to go out on the street right now, we can find somebody.

00:29:03.400 You can find a whole bunch of guys.

00:29:04.780 That's what I'm saying.

00:29:05.420 Like, we can find somebody.

00:29:07.100 So, it's not like saying we can't find better.

00:29:09.200 It's just saying, like, we want you.

00:29:11.280 We want that potential.

00:29:12.940 But you're not giving us that potential.

00:29:15.120 So, we're trying to hold on as long as we can until you give us that potential.

00:29:18.860 No, the potential is the reason that you stay.

00:29:20.960 Yeah.

00:29:21.240 And if you see progress, if you see.

00:29:23.620 So, if your boyfriend says, look, babe, I want to do this.

00:29:26.940 I want to accomplish this.

00:29:27.780 I want to accomplish this.

00:29:28.500 And you see him accomplishing breadcrumbs.

00:29:30.060 You see him getting breadcrumbs to where he's trying to get.

00:29:32.340 That's going to make you even feel better.

00:29:34.240 That's going to make you feel more better, right?

00:29:36.120 Because you're working towards you.

00:29:37.320 Exactly.

00:29:37.820 You see it.

00:29:38.280 You're like, oh, my God.

00:29:39.100 He's doing it.

00:29:39.860 But what you're saying is she wants you.

00:29:43.060 You're telling her, nah, it's okay.

00:29:45.280 I'm going to go find my other options.

00:29:48.020 Because if you want to stay, you can stay.

00:29:50.320 So, she's staying in the hopes that you're going to come back to her.

00:29:55.220 That's her choice.

00:29:55.960 Which is, like, messed up.

00:29:56.920 But that's her choice, though.

00:29:58.120 Q, isn't it the case that a lot of women would rather be with, like, a really quality guy and share him than be in a relationship with a guy that they don't respect and that's weak or whatever?

00:30:13.340 I don't think anyone wants to share their man, though.

00:30:16.360 A lot of, like, if the guy is high status enough, I think a lot of women would be prepared to share him.

00:30:21.380 Absolutely.

00:30:22.160 Really?

00:30:22.500 I mean, I think so.

00:30:23.420 Not women who are loyal and committed to just you, though.

00:30:27.220 It doesn't have to be financial.

00:30:28.480 It doesn't.

00:30:28.780 It can be a myriad of things.

00:30:31.000 It doesn't have to be financial.

00:30:32.020 It can be financial.

00:30:33.340 It can be the way he looks, the way he makes her feel, the way she feels about him.

00:30:38.160 It's different elements that go into it.

00:30:40.920 It's not a one-size-fits-all type ordeal.

00:30:43.460 It's multiple things.

00:30:44.380 And if you observe a lot of men, if you observe a lot of men who are high status or high quality, they date multiple women.

00:30:51.360 And as long as they're open and honest, some of those women are willing to accept that.

00:30:55.240 Okay.

00:30:55.520 Can I just ask something?

00:30:57.480 If you know that she knows all of this about you and she's still willing to be with you, wouldn't that make you question her intelligence?

00:31:05.600 And then, therefore, wouldn't that make her less attractive to you?

00:31:09.760 Not necessarily, because what you're missing is y'all are talking about my main.

00:31:15.020 And the reason that I acknowledge, she's my main.

00:31:17.300 So I'm well aware of the loyalty and commitment that she's shown, which is why I'm saying when I'm ready to settle down, she's at the forefront of my mind.

00:31:24.620 But it's a matter of me being willing to settle down.

00:31:26.820 I want to make sure I can take care of her.

00:31:28.720 I want to make sure I can provide for her.

00:31:30.060 I want to make sure I can provide for our family.

00:31:31.740 And you don't want to cheat on her when you're married to her.

00:31:33.440 Yeah.

00:31:33.780 And that won't happen.

00:31:35.540 Like, I've never cheated.

00:31:36.840 I've never cheated.

00:31:37.820 I've never committed infidelity.

00:31:39.620 So when-

00:31:39.880 Yeah, but how are you going to reach that elite status of being able to provide for her and take care of her if you're spending all your money on all these side chicks?

00:31:45.920 Who said I was spending all my money?

00:31:47.420 I just said it.

00:31:47.940 You don't have to spend money on side chicks?

00:31:49.360 I literally just said I only invest resources in one girl.

00:31:53.680 Okay.

00:31:54.160 Yeah, so she's the only girl.

00:31:55.780 So that's what I said.

00:31:56.560 When you asked about loyalty, I said there's sexual loyalty.

00:31:59.860 And then with men, how we show loyalty, that's who we invest our time, energy, effort, resources, and finances into.

00:32:07.180 So she gets way more than that.

00:32:09.220 You don't see me out on dates with side chicks.

00:32:11.980 I'll take her out anywhere.

00:32:13.340 I'll go on vacation with her anywhere.

00:32:14.760 And it sounds like you would prefer her not to sleep with other people, or that might even be a deal breaker for you.

00:32:20.160 Is that right?

00:32:20.640 Absolutely, because she can't do it.

00:32:22.340 I know if she sleeps with another guy, I've lost her.

00:32:24.580 So I actually don't disagree with you as far as the consent part of it, which is that if she consents to you being with other people and consents to her being monogamous to you, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

00:32:35.900 If it's a mutually consensual relationship between two people, you don't always have to have the same rules for each other, and that can go either way for anything, right?

00:32:42.640 The only concern I would have, I guess, is, is she staying with you out of insecurity?

00:32:48.920 And if she doesn't have all her things together, because it sounds like at the beginning when you left, she was like, correct me if I'm wrong, if I'm getting the details wrong, but it sounds like you left.

00:32:58.540 And then she's like, no, no, no, I want you back.

00:33:00.680 And I'm willing to put up with you being with other people because I like you so much.

00:33:04.140 So that gives me the vibe of someone who's a little bit insecure and maybe a little bit unsure of other partners that she can find.

00:33:11.760 You're saying she's insecure.

00:33:13.840 I reinforce her ability to get other men, though.

00:33:18.460 Thank you, FTG.

00:33:20.040 I reinforce her.

00:33:21.540 I positively affirm her ability to get other men.

00:33:23.980 So just to finish my thought, sorry.

00:33:26.140 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:33:26.600 To finish my thought, so I guess what I would be concerned about is if she is coming from a place where she doesn't feel that she is whole and does not need your help to reaffirm her, can she truly consent in that case?

00:33:41.840 So, you know, that would be something to consider.

00:33:43.900 You said, does she feel, does she, can you repeat that?

00:33:46.580 Yeah, so in the situation where she is feeling like she needs other resources for validation, such as yourself or other things, in that case, can she truly consent to you being with other partners because is she fully aware of all the repercussions that that will have on her?

00:34:02.860 I am not aware of how she feels in that regard.

00:34:07.520 You haven't talked about it?

00:34:09.060 I mean, we open and honest, but a lot of the things that I say, look, I say at the end of the day, it's your decision.

00:34:15.000 If you want to be with another guy, and I've communicated this to her, if I say you'll make a great wife, whether it's for me or another guy, if you don't want to wait on me, you don't have to wait on me.

00:34:23.680 All of these things have been communicated.

00:34:25.240 So I hear what you're saying because you're talking a lot about consent, but however, there's consent and then there's informed consent.

00:34:30.720 Wait, what do you, I don't know where the consent comes from.

00:34:34.240 That's what I'm trying to figure out.

00:34:35.540 What does that have to do?

00:34:38.060 I try to avoid conversations about consent.

00:34:41.400 Massively overrided.

00:34:43.260 Okay.

00:34:43.660 I think she's just trying to say maybe your, maybe your main chick was only saying that just because she's scared to lose you.

00:34:52.660 Wait, but okay.

00:34:53.440 Like agreeing to the, you let her know, right?

00:34:55.320 Agreeing to the terms, yes.

00:34:55.700 So I don't see how consent comes in.

00:34:57.600 He was upfront with her.

00:34:58.600 He's not like, he's not going behind her back and cheating.

00:35:01.400 I understand that.

00:35:02.040 Well, consent meaning like she knows what's going on.

00:35:04.400 She's willingly doing it.

00:35:07.000 Because.

00:35:07.420 You told her though, right?

00:35:08.520 You told her what's up.

00:35:09.400 Yeah, like she knows what's going on.

00:35:10.440 Yeah.

00:35:11.240 Do you, sorry, go ahead.

00:35:12.460 So what's the, what's the consent have to do?

00:35:14.200 So one thing that kind of happens in the ethical non-monogamy community, and maybe this doesn't apply to you, but there's kind of like the don't ask, don't tell.

00:35:21.040 So maybe you know that your partner's out there doing other things, but you would rather not know the details.

00:35:26.220 And in that case, you know, it's sort of a gray area because it's like, you know, it's happening, but what is the reason that you don't want to know how many other partners they have?

00:35:35.500 You know, even considerations about safe sex and protection and things like that.

00:35:38.740 Those are our relevant things, right?

00:35:40.180 So if you don't have those things laid out on the table, you consent sort of on the superficial level, but there's not deeper informed consent with all the information in front of you.

00:35:48.460 So that's kind of the only thing I bring up.

00:35:50.120 The ethical non-monogamous community.

00:35:53.000 And that's, you're in that community.

00:35:54.620 That's your, the ethical, I just found this out.

00:35:58.140 I was unaware of this.

00:35:59.560 I hope it's ethical.

00:36:00.680 But, but, um.

00:36:01.640 Are you ethical?

00:36:02.620 Uh, yeah.

00:36:03.600 Well, I, I'm at, do you mean like, okay, say for example.

00:36:07.340 I'm so bad for Saucling.

00:36:08.460 We take STI tests.

00:36:09.940 Like, you know, if I've been with somebody else or whatever, I'll take an STI test to make sure, you know what I'm saying, I'm clean, she's good.

00:36:17.140 Like, is that what you mean?

00:36:18.900 So that's part of it.

00:36:19.920 So the STI part is sort of the physical health part of it.

00:36:22.720 There's also sort of the emotional repercussion part of it.

00:36:26.120 And so that's a little bit of a gray area because you can make the argument, well, we've sort of talked a little bit about, you know,

00:36:31.540 babe, how would you feel if I slept with another person or I had four other side chicks?

00:36:36.980 So it's a little bit of a gray area as far as how much you've talked about it and how much of that is enough or like what is considered informed.

00:36:45.640 But sort of the opposite extreme of that is the don't ask, don't tell where it's like I sort of know this happening, but I don't want to know anything about it.

00:36:53.280 And in that case, what I would ask is, you know, are we really kind of considering your own emotional health in being able to say yes to the situation?

00:37:01.040 Hold on.

00:37:01.480 Are you suggesting that there's an assault occurring because there's not – you're suggesting that there's not –

00:37:07.800 No, no assault.

00:37:08.900 Is that what you said?

00:37:09.940 Huh?

00:37:10.320 Yeah.

00:37:11.220 No.

00:37:11.460 But he's already stated that he's told her and he's on a podcast in front of thousands of people watching.

00:37:17.780 I assume they've had a conversation that – I mean, he's pretty open about it here on the podcast.

00:37:22.980 I assume they've had a conversation that it's open on his own.

00:37:26.600 We have an understanding.

00:37:27.660 I mean, you guys are trying to get an understanding that you don't have, but we have that understanding because we've had these conversations.

00:37:34.400 So it's not like I'm in an official relationship.

00:37:36.940 These are women that I'm dating.

00:37:38.460 So I date multiple women.

00:37:40.200 I'm not in a committed relationship to anybody.

00:37:42.420 So she knows that you're dating other people.

00:37:43.720 Yes, exactly.

00:37:45.160 So I'm dating other – I'm dating other women.

00:37:49.140 And what I'm saying is I take the most interest in her because I've been dating her the longest and we've developed the strongest relationship out of all the women that I've been dating.

00:37:58.480 So does that clarify a lot more?

00:38:00.760 She's your fave.

00:38:01.760 She's my favorite.

00:38:02.480 I hear you, and like I said, I don't think anything you're doing is considered like crossing a boundary because clearly you've shared what you're doing with her.

00:38:11.740 All I'm trying to express is that there are sort of gradations in how you can do it.

00:38:16.320 And kind of the more you share and the more you guys can kind of work through the repercussions of what you're doing, the healthier relationship that can lead to, even if in the future you decide to close the relationship and become monogamous.

00:38:28.280 So from what I've seen, right, so there's different gradations of how you can do it.

00:38:33.260 As long as you two are both consenting, I don't see anything wrong with you.

00:38:35.680 Oh, yeah, I'm transparent about everything.

00:38:37.880 I try to be transparent about everything so that nobody's left to wonder, nobody's left to make assumptions and negative to where, you know, they feel overwhelmed with anxiety or they feel depressed or, you know, I don't want to break anyone's heart.

00:38:51.060 You know, I give everybody the benefit of the doubt.

00:38:53.160 I'm open, transparent, honest about what I'm doing, what my intentions are.

00:38:56.980 And at the end of the day, I just take it one day at a time, though.

00:39:01.080 I really hope you pursue her.

00:39:03.200 I hope it works out.

00:39:06.160 But who here, it seems like a lot of the girls here object to the fact that he's open with his partners about this, but you object to the fact that he's seeing multiple women.

00:39:16.160 That's what it is.

00:39:16.900 I wouldn't say I object.

00:39:19.020 I just don't like the dynamic.

00:39:22.020 I mean, because on one end, I'm sorry, on one end, he's saying, like, I'm free to do whatever I want with these women, you know, and that's how it's going to be.

00:39:33.060 But if you were to do it, it's just a no go for me.

00:39:36.060 But doesn't that come down to me understanding the differences between men and women?

00:39:39.200 I do it because I can do it.

00:39:40.840 As I said, if she does it, I've lost her.

00:39:43.140 Is it just because you can do something?

00:39:44.940 Does that make it right?

00:39:46.480 It's not about right or wrong.

00:39:47.540 It's not about right or wrong.

00:39:48.260 I can stab you.

00:39:48.800 It doesn't mean I should do it.

00:39:49.880 It's not.

00:39:50.180 It's not.

00:39:50.500 It's not.

00:39:51.700 I don't think you would necessarily lose her.

00:39:53.500 It's not about right or wrong.

00:39:54.340 I think it would be like her saying, oh, you got all these other people on one side.

00:40:01.840 I'm just doing it because you're doing it.

00:40:03.260 But do you know her, though?

00:40:05.340 No, I'm not saying I know her.

00:40:07.240 You don't know her.

00:40:08.100 You don't know her.

00:40:08.880 I know her.

00:40:09.920 So I'm telling you, if she were to do it based on how I know her, her behavioral tendencies,

00:40:15.520 her attitude, the way that she thinks, how selective she is, how secretive she is with

00:40:20.180 her body, if she were to do it, that means she really liked the guy.

00:40:24.480 That means she liked that guy more than me.

00:40:26.760 I lost him.

00:40:27.620 So that's what I'm saying.

00:40:28.400 Hold on to just $99.

00:40:31.820 Q, what is your ratio of women?

00:40:35.220 What is my ratio of women?

00:40:36.520 How many women approach me versus how many women I actually accept?

00:40:40.020 Oh, my ratio is similar to Raspi's.

00:40:42.560 I get approached by a lot of women, and I turn down a lot of sex, honestly.

00:40:46.240 I do.

00:40:46.920 I turn down a lot of sex.

00:40:48.120 My DM is full of thousands of women, and a lot of the times I just ignore it.

00:40:54.160 Thousands?

00:40:54.860 Yes.

00:40:55.400 Stop hogging the women.

00:40:56.520 I have a question about your question.

00:40:58.640 So another way to look at it, couldn't you also say that she has the freedom to leave if

00:41:03.020 he isn't giving her what you want, what she wants, and she could look for a guy who is

00:41:07.180 more willing to be monogamous to her?

00:41:08.900 Yes, she could.

00:41:09.800 She just didn't choose to.

00:41:11.140 She made her decision.

00:41:12.780 Did you guys live together?

00:41:14.380 Did we live together?

00:41:15.120 Yeah.

00:41:15.280 Not anymore.

00:41:15.820 We did.

00:41:16.680 Okay.

00:41:17.040 We did at one point, and when we did, I didn't even see other women.

00:41:21.240 Well, the thing is for me is just that...

00:41:22.640 Even though we weren't committed in a relationship, I still didn't see other women out of respect

00:41:26.580 for the fact that we live together.

00:41:28.620 Go ahead, Kelly.

00:41:29.280 I'm just saying that I don't see the problem with you seeing other women just because of

00:41:34.540 the fact that you are transparent with her, which is automatically it's in her hands.

00:41:39.240 So if she chooses not to go see other people knowingly that you are dating other people,

00:41:44.360 that's her choice to do, and it's like you said, men and women are different.

00:41:49.760 We have a man who's going to spend all of his time with the woman that he cares about

00:41:53.500 the most.

00:41:54.020 He's going to spend the most money because he works to make his money, so why would he

00:41:57.460 go waste it on some girls that he doesn't see any potential in?

00:42:01.460 So as long as you're not saying, this is my girlfriend, and there's no title on it,

00:42:07.600 there's nothing...

00:42:08.080 I don't see anything wrong with that.

00:42:09.560 And that's exactly what it is.

00:42:10.680 Yeah.

00:42:10.840 Well, she could be his girlfriend even, but as long as she understands the situation.

00:42:17.420 You know, they're dating.

00:42:19.260 It's a part of dating, but they haven't...

00:42:21.620 It's not like you ever said, will you be my girlfriend?

00:42:24.260 Right.

00:42:24.420 Because once that question comes out, then that's a completely different story.

00:42:27.120 Then you dating other women is cheating on her.

00:42:29.280 There you go.

00:42:29.700 Well, she could still be your girlfriend, though, but you still have this understanding.

00:42:34.140 Right.

00:42:34.420 But if she was my girlfriend, though, yeah, I'd cut off everybody.

00:42:39.980 I'd cut off women instantly.

00:42:41.860 Wait, so Alex, you were saying a little bit earlier that you think it's more so men that

00:42:48.200 are operating like this, that are moving like this as compared to women.

00:42:53.040 Yeah.

00:42:53.440 The inability to commit, I do find it to be a lot of men.

00:42:59.140 I mean, you are like that.

00:43:00.240 Like, you talk about that.

00:43:01.280 Yeah.

00:43:01.940 Wait, how am I like?

00:43:03.160 Like, you are very anti-marriage.

00:43:05.980 You don't want to commit either.

00:43:07.420 So this is like a phenomenon I'm seeing growing.

00:43:10.540 I think a lot of the men that watch this show, I think they would agree that is where they

00:43:14.460 fall is they're very anti-commitment.

00:43:16.600 And it's because they think that there are no women worth committing to.

00:43:19.480 I understand that.

00:43:20.460 I would like to just point out, make one clarification.

00:43:23.840 I don't have any qualms with commitment.

00:43:26.720 Just marriage.

00:43:27.040 I have qualms with marriage.

00:43:27.860 I could have a life partner that I am monogamous with and I spend 20, 30 years, however fucking

00:43:35.480 long it is.

00:43:37.180 Marriage, on the other hand, you need not have marriage in order to be committed to somebody.

00:43:42.140 Got it.

00:43:42.500 Okay.

00:43:42.680 So I'm not anti-commitment.

00:43:44.960 You're against the legal things that marriage entails.

00:43:47.000 Yeah, I'm the contract.

00:43:47.820 And sort of what it locks you into.

00:43:49.000 Yeah, it's just there's the financial ramifications of marriage.

00:43:53.600 And like the thing with marriage, I don't object to it from a religious standpoint.

00:43:57.660 But the thing is, is that if there's ever an issue in the marriage, for example, let's

00:44:03.140 say you're both religious, your wife is not likely to go to God or to her church or, you

00:44:09.140 know, to her priest, whatever it is, for like the religion does not preside over the marriage.

00:44:18.160 The state presides over the marriage.

00:44:20.000 So she's going to seek recourse through the court system.

00:44:22.800 She's going to go to the state.

00:44:24.420 And so once you have the state involved, then you have alimony.

00:44:26.640 Then you have all these negative repercussions.

00:44:29.280 Then you have to, if you're the breadwinner as a guy, not only do you have to pay for

00:44:33.160 your lawyer in the event of a divorce, you have to fund, you have to pay for her lawyer.

00:44:38.060 So it's, it gets very, very nasty.

00:44:42.280 Don't you think you need to choose very carefully though?

00:44:44.820 Absolutely.

00:44:45.440 But how many people change though?

00:44:47.860 People change over years.

00:44:49.100 So no doubt that's an issue.

00:44:50.520 But I mean, how many people like when they get married, they're, they're going into the

00:44:54.420 marriage thinking this is my person.

00:44:56.260 I think so many people get married way too early.

00:44:58.840 I think people get married.

00:44:59.900 I got married at 29 and my wife was 26 and we sort of planned it out in a way where we

00:45:06.660 lived together for a certain amount of time and we spend all this time together.

00:45:09.700 We've traveled the world together.

00:45:10.860 We did all these things.

00:45:11.560 We know who we are and we, we grew as a couple and we became the people that we both, we basically

00:45:18.660 we cannot be separated.

00:45:20.200 Like the fact that she and my son and my mate Morgan, who's with us on this trip, are out

00:45:25.300 in the car at the moment or they're going around somewhere.

00:45:27.580 Me being here, I'm just like, oh, I probably should be there.

00:45:30.700 You know what I mean?

00:45:31.120 Because we are almost joined at the hip.

00:45:33.380 We do everything together.

00:45:35.460 And the fact that marrying her was an important step for us.

00:45:39.700 I think it obviously being involved with the government and signing the contract and being

00:45:43.800 involved in that sense, it does scare a lot of people.

00:45:47.880 But I think it is an important move for a lot of people to make just so you feel fucking

00:45:53.900 good.

00:45:54.500 It's such a good feeling, but weddings do cost a fuck ton of money too.

00:45:58.480 It's a great way to spend 30, 40, $50,000 on one day.

00:46:02.260 It was awful.

00:46:03.060 You could just go to a courthouse though.

00:46:04.360 You really just want to be married and not spend a lot of money.

00:46:06.040 Yeah, but I'm not a redneck.

00:46:07.640 I'm fancy as fuck.

00:46:08.900 I'm just saying, like you can get married and not spend a lot of money.

00:46:10.100 Like yes, sure.

00:46:11.220 Most people don't.

00:46:12.280 Steve-O's sister could get married there, but not, um, it was a joke about Steve-O and the

00:46:17.760 voice.

00:46:18.160 I think that going somewhere nice is very important.

00:46:22.320 Would you say there's also something special about, about the contract of standing up in

00:46:26.100 front of everyone and saying, Hey, we're going to spend the rest of our lives together?

00:46:29.060 Because it's a culture thing.

00:46:29.880 It's not so much about religion.

00:46:31.220 It's a culture thing.

00:46:32.200 That's what you do when you love this person more than anything else.

00:46:35.100 You spend all your money and you get locked into a contract with them.

00:46:39.660 It doesn't make sense when you think about it, like, with your brain.

00:46:43.720 It doesn't.

00:46:44.100 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:44.540 Well, if everybody's so worried about the government repercussions, why not do it specifically

00:46:48.540 through the church, write out a contract for you and the person you're marrying through

00:46:52.040 the church and do it that way and not legally get married at all?

00:46:56.460 Oh God.

00:46:57.000 Okay.

00:46:57.280 Well, but can I, can I say something to this point?

00:47:00.080 Let me just say one thing and I'll let you come in with you.

00:47:01.900 Well, I mean, I'm, I'm not like, if you go to a, if you go to a church and you get married,

00:47:09.400 I think the state would, even though you don't get like a marriage license, I'm pretty sure

00:47:15.660 you're still deemed by the state to be married.

00:47:18.420 And then once you get married, even if it's just through religion, then there's various

00:47:22.980 legal triggers that occur.

00:47:25.180 I mean, people often bring up prenup, well, just get a prenup, but a prenup isn't, prenups

00:47:31.860 get thrown out.

00:47:32.900 It's not going to save you if the woman is motivated enough.

00:47:36.780 You just tell the judge there was coercion or fraudulent inducement.

00:47:40.380 Um, so prenups get thrown out.

00:47:43.440 Uh, I, I don't know if, I think prenups can address your assets that, uh, prior to marriage,

00:47:50.760 but things that you earned in marriage, I think prenups can't cover.

00:47:56.160 I'm going to have an attorney come out to talk about this.

00:47:58.880 My aunt got 30K a month for 20 years and millions in assets from a divorce.

00:48:03.100 If you have any real amount of money, it makes no sense to get married.

00:48:07.300 Good point, Mr. Meatball.

00:48:08.320 Wait, I have a question.

00:48:09.620 Isn't it there a thing that, like, if you get married in other countries, it doesn't

00:48:13.400 necessarily hold up, so you could still get married in another country, but then, like,

00:48:17.860 not actually have repercussions you're worried about?

00:48:20.360 I'm not.

00:48:21.800 Like, that's why, like, Brody Jenner and, like, his, like, ex-wife, like, apparently they

00:48:26.300 weren't actually married because it was, like, in another country and they never got a marriage

00:48:30.140 license here.

00:48:31.460 So I think you could still have the commitment and celebration of getting married, and I think

00:48:36.380 you do it in certain countries, it doesn't hold up here, so you don't have to worry about

00:48:39.740 that.

00:48:39.900 Well, but then you, of the sort of benefits that do exist, because I guess there are certain

00:48:45.380 tax benefits or something if you get married, like, if there's a health crisis, there's

00:48:49.560 certain, like, benefits there, I guess, but...

00:48:53.680 Do you think it matters when you make the money, too?

00:48:56.760 Because if you make the money together, and if she's a stay-at-home mom and she looks after

00:49:01.080 the kids and allows you to go out and work, and by allows you, I mean to look after the

00:49:04.920 kids, not lets you, do you think that matters as well?

00:49:08.000 Because, once again, not to go back to my situation, but we made the money together.

00:49:11.780 We bought the houses together, we did all that together, so if we were to divorce, then

00:49:16.180 I'd be like, well, you just...

00:49:17.160 She deserves it.

00:49:17.700 You deserve that.

00:49:18.160 She deserves it, yeah.

00:49:18.880 You deserve that cash.

00:49:19.680 Do you think that she still deserves it if she cheated on you?

00:49:23.380 Nah, fuck that bitch.

00:49:24.460 She...

00:49:25.020 No, but here's the thing, here's the thing.

00:49:27.740 Hold on, I'll let this come in.

00:49:28.540 The offender donated $99.

00:49:31.780 Christy, are you advocating for passport brothers?

00:49:34.620 I don't think that's what she's advocating for, she's just saying, you can get married

00:49:38.260 in a different country, and perhaps the U.S. would not, but you would be subject, if you

00:49:44.100 ever went back to that country, you would be subject to their marriage laws, but, and

00:49:48.700 I would assume you need to get divorced, because you can't, if you're already married, you

00:49:53.240 couldn't, you have to get divorced before you can remarry.

00:49:55.420 In the U.S., your wife could, your wife could participate in a gangbang, divorce you, and

00:50:02.860 still get paid alimony.

00:50:05.200 Well, Steve Harvey's wife just cheated on him with, like, their personal chef, and their

00:50:10.200 butler or whatever, or the driver, and now she wants, like, $400 million for their divorce.

00:50:15.880 It just sounds like victim whining to me.

00:50:17.280 Like, I think the guys, you guys have to step up and be confident that you're picking the

00:50:22.920 right woman.

00:50:23.620 Well, don't root the butler.

00:50:25.100 I should explain, root means sex in Australia.

00:50:27.040 But you're removing, hold on, but you're removing all accountability from women, like,

00:50:31.880 as if-

00:50:32.220 No, I'm not.

00:50:33.300 If, so step up, pick the right woman, but if she ends up-

00:50:37.140 Cheating.

00:50:37.600 Cheating on, like, is that still your fault for not, like, people cheat?

00:50:43.460 Steve Harvey's situation, I feel like it's different, because he, he, she had, like,

00:50:49.320 two different relationships before then, and one of them was in jail, and Steve Harvey

00:50:54.640 took in her pre-

00:50:56.120 She already had kids before him.

00:50:57.820 Okay.

00:50:58.320 So lots of blackness that he ignored.

00:51:00.460 He picked up.

00:51:01.340 Like, he took her in, took her kids in, adopted her kids, but she was messing with him while

00:51:09.300 she was still with somebody else.

00:51:11.160 He fucked up.

00:51:11.720 I think he went to jail.

00:51:12.920 So that's why she started messing with him.

00:51:15.180 But she already had kids while they do who went to jail.

00:51:17.580 That's a yikes, dude.

00:51:18.160 That's a yikes.

00:51:18.260 If the guy cheats, does the girl get more money than her?

00:51:20.860 What's that?

00:51:21.480 If the guy cheats, should the, the woman get more money than her?

00:51:23.640 I'm not sure.

00:51:24.000 I think so.

00:51:24.820 I think so.

00:51:25.560 I do know, like, if-

00:51:27.000 Okay, but the serious question-

00:51:27.820 If there's, if there's infidelity-

00:51:28.960 Yeah.

00:51:29.380 That would not preclude you as the cheating partner from getting alimony.

00:51:35.060 So, so then if the, the other way around was true, like, the woman made more money

00:51:39.300 in the relationship, then you would agree for the same sort of terms where if the, the man

00:51:44.460 were to cheat, the man should not get any money?

00:51:47.160 Well, the, okay.

00:51:48.360 I can talk about what should, could, like, what ought to be, what should be-

00:51:52.460 Like in your perfect world, like what's most ethical in the world?

00:51:53.860 Oh, in my perfect world?

00:51:55.220 If you're a king in the world.

00:51:56.380 If there's infidelity, then I don't think, I, I think that'd be a fair reason to not

00:52:01.720 be subject to alimony.

00:52:04.260 Whether you're the man or the woman, it goes both ways.

00:52:06.740 I think both sides, that makes sense to me.

00:52:08.440 But the reality is, is that, I mean, I think it's something like 97% of alimony payments

00:52:13.880 go from men to women.

00:52:16.080 So, I mean, you know.

00:52:19.440 I think everyone should get a prenup, and if you cheat, you should not get a payout.

00:52:24.660 Both ways, pretty, pretty straightforward.

00:52:26.980 Sure, but I mean, and also, well, but okay, to bring it back to Alex, just a point of clarification

00:52:33.520 because you mentioned commitment.

00:52:34.940 I am perfectly prepared to have a long-term or lifelong monogamous relationship with a

00:52:39.220 woman.

00:52:40.400 What I'm not prepared to do is to needlessly involve the state with my love life.

00:52:46.080 I don't want to allow the state to be judge, jury, and executioner over my hard-earned

00:52:52.080 resources and money in the event of a divorce.

00:52:55.120 So, like, the U.S. court system has very strong bias against men, and if there were changes

00:53:01.720 made to the court system to better protect men from financial ruin in the event of divorce,

00:53:06.960 then I might be a bit more obliged to get married.

00:53:10.260 But until then, I don't sign contracts that don't benefit me.

00:53:13.700 What would they need to change to benefit, or to at least equal the playing field?

00:53:17.800 So, okay, there's a couple things.

00:53:18.800 I think, one, there needs to be, like, just a base cap on child support.

00:53:23.460 So, it doesn't matter, like, if whatever the bare minimum it takes to raise a kid, you

00:53:29.760 can adjust for cost of living of that city or whatever.

00:53:33.360 There's no world where if you choose to divorce someone and they're a high earner that you should

00:53:37.160 be getting, you no longer get the benefit of the lifestyle that that person brings.

00:53:41.420 So, you get bare, like, bare minimum child support.

00:53:44.660 There should be a cap on child support.

00:53:46.520 You should not be getting $400,000 a month in child support when it comes to alimony.

00:53:51.500 Same thing.

00:53:52.260 I don't, there are certainly good arguments for alimony.

00:53:54.800 For example, if the woman, she chooses to disregard pursuing a career to be married to you and to

00:54:03.600 have kids, it makes sense under those circumstances that, as the guy, you should support your ex-wife.

00:54:13.720 However, there ought to be a cap to alimony.

00:54:17.080 And if she's involved with another guy, she gets remarried, then alimony should cease.

00:54:21.320 If she, she's able to find a new guy to support her, she's living with a new guy, then alimony

00:54:27.280 should, should cease.

00:54:28.380 There should be a cap on it.

00:54:29.660 It should, it shouldn't be based on your income.

00:54:32.380 If you're making $200, you know, like you hear these, like Dr. Dre, you hear all these

00:54:37.460 guys who get absolutely wrecked in court because they have to pay like insane amount of alimony.

00:54:43.160 If you choose to leave your partner, if you choose to initiate a divorce, you should get

00:54:48.180 like a, there should be a cap.

00:54:49.380 I think the problem with a cap though, is if you live in that person's house or you own

00:54:53.300 a couple of houses or whatever the situation is, particularly in, in relationships where

00:54:56.540 there's a lot of money involved, if you live in a house that's still on a mortgage, you're

00:55:00.740 going to need that exorbitant amount of money to pay it off.

00:55:04.100 So it has to be a case by case.

00:55:05.480 Well, he, well, if, if the primary breadwinner, uh, keeps the house, then I don't know, they go

00:55:13.220 to a apartment, the divorcee.

00:55:16.300 I guess it depends on like how bad the divorce ends because some divorces you just realize,

00:55:21.220 oh, I don't love you anymore or it's a horrible situation.

00:55:24.560 Is that a good, is not being in love with somebody a good reason to get a divorce?

00:55:28.500 No.

00:55:28.920 I absolutely think so.

00:55:30.360 Absolutely not.

00:55:31.140 And in fact, I think it's inevitable that there will be times in a marriage where you're

00:55:35.180 not in love with the other person, but that is the purpose of marriage.

00:55:39.500 Not me, I'm a dilf.

00:55:40.300 So that you can't just walk out like that.

00:55:42.920 That commitment is what's supposed to drive you.

00:55:45.420 So that even in the lulls, even in the low points, you're still committed to that person.

00:55:49.700 Well, yeah.

00:55:50.100 What, what are the vows?

00:55:51.060 Till death do us part in sickness and in health.

00:55:54.120 It says nothing about, I'm bored.

00:55:56.820 Yeah.

00:55:57.180 I'm feeling a little bored.

00:55:58.200 I guess I can leave.

00:55:58.960 And I just, and I just, I just seen, um, the research today.

00:56:01.980 Some additional research came out that said, um, 54 with infidelity, um, 54% of women cheat

00:56:09.260 because they're unhappy.

00:56:10.780 And I just want to talk, um, point on that, that unhappiness that leads to women cheating

00:56:16.400 and then essentially women cheat to get out of relationships.

00:56:19.020 That just speaks to how, you know, it's unstable that marriages typically are and how they operate

00:56:25.700 on a whim of a woman's emotions because women initiate divorce at a higher rate than men do.

00:56:31.240 So that commitment that's made for sickness, um, and in health till death do us part, that

00:56:35.720 commitment is supposed to be honored.

00:56:37.300 So when a woman feels that she doesn't love her husband anymore or she's bored or whatever

00:56:41.780 the case may be, that's, that those principles are supposed to stand.

00:56:44.960 Those pillars of those principles are supposed to stand.

00:56:47.120 She's supposed to, uh, she's supposed to fight through that.

00:56:50.760 And that's when I come back to your point when you said, um, most people get married too

00:56:55.000 young or they don't know each other.

00:56:56.720 You, you described how you and your wife developed your relationship.

00:56:59.240 You said that you guys knew each other.

00:57:01.540 You guys learned each other.

00:57:02.640 A lot of people don't know how to properly vet when they jump, they jump into relationships

00:57:06.560 in the infatuation stage.

00:57:07.940 They're not prepared for, Oh, we're going to have these disagreements.

00:57:11.680 Here's where our personalities don't align.

00:57:13.740 Here's where our values don't align.

00:57:15.220 And a minute, those things rise to the surface, they want out.

00:57:19.400 And typically it's the woman first because the woman is the one who gets fed up first.

00:57:23.580 She's the one who gets irritated first.

00:57:25.400 She's the one who gets annoyed first and she wants out.

00:57:28.800 Typically men don't expect that because men, we go cry in the car, we sit, we decompress,

00:57:33.940 we go in our man cave or whatever the case may be.

00:57:36.020 And then we come back, we feeling better.

00:57:37.240 Let's have sex.

00:57:37.920 Let's make up.

00:57:38.760 But once that woman starts to feel bored or unhappy, the relationship is now in jeopardy.

00:57:44.240 And that's the issue with men picking better women.

00:57:47.260 We do have to pick better women.

00:57:48.980 We have to pick women that we know are going to hold us down.

00:57:51.440 And just like I said, going back to my situation, I've seen what she can stand by me through.

00:57:56.320 She stands by me through absolutely the worst of things that she doesn't agree with because

00:58:00.460 she loves me and she sees who I am and what I will become.

00:58:04.740 So I can honor that.

00:58:06.360 So now I know I feel safe and secure that if I commit to this woman, I know this woman is

00:58:11.000 going to be here even when she can't stand me, even when she doesn't love me.

00:58:15.620 And that's why I feel that in the future, I can marry her.

00:58:20.500 I have a question for the whole table that's semi-related to commitment.

00:58:25.120 And who here has been in a couple of different relationships?

00:58:31.300 I mean, I assume probably everybody here.

00:58:33.880 I want to go around the table starting with you, Christy.

00:58:36.360 More often than not, who, and this is for everybody, more often than not, who is the one who is

00:58:43.440 having to end the relationship?

00:58:47.580 And this can apply also not just towards like for your long-term relationships, but also

00:58:52.380 even if you've gone on one date with a guy, two dates with a guy, three dates with a guy.

00:58:56.240 More often than not, is it you that is saying, I don't want to see you anymore, I want to

00:59:01.880 break up?

00:59:03.100 Or is it the guy saying that?

00:59:05.080 If you had to attribute maybe a percentage to it or more, or just more often than not,

00:59:09.260 is it the guy or the girl?

00:59:11.660 No, no, no.

00:59:12.020 We'll come to that later.

00:59:12.720 I'm just kidding.

00:59:13.120 I'm just kidding.

00:59:13.820 Okay.

00:59:14.240 So out of my actual relationships that I like count, cause you know how you have like,

00:59:19.580 you've dated exes and then you have like girlfriend, boyfriend kind of exes.

00:59:23.440 So like actual real relationships, it's usually me because I come to the conclusion that he's

00:59:30.040 not my soulmate and I'm in a relationship to get married and there's no point of wasting

00:59:34.860 either of our times if I know that it's not going to get to marriage and I don't want to

00:59:40.140 marry the wrong person.

00:59:41.600 I don't want to settle when it comes to that cause I don't want to get divorced.

00:59:44.920 I'm married.

00:59:45.600 Once I'm married, I'm in it for the long haul.

00:59:48.280 Yeah.

00:59:48.520 I don't want to put my kids through divorce.

00:59:50.240 So usually it's you.

00:59:51.620 Okay.

00:59:52.020 Yeah, but with that being said, when it comes to just guys that I've like casually dated

00:59:57.140 to see, um, like think it's might go somewhere.

01:00:02.380 Maybe you're talking someone for a couple months, thinks it thinks it's going to go somewhere.

01:00:06.720 It doesn't officially go somewhere.

01:00:08.760 It's usually the guy that.

01:00:10.260 Okay.

01:00:10.780 But in the longer term.

01:00:12.380 Or like it makes it fade out.

01:00:13.780 In your longer term situations or relationships.

01:00:16.800 I'm ending it because, um, I really want to get married for the long haul and I would

01:00:22.100 never, I don't want to waste either of our time if I don't see that happening.

01:00:26.920 What about you?

01:00:27.780 So like her, like I, I date to marry.

01:00:30.240 So if I can't see myself with you, like I'm not even going to fake it.

01:00:36.380 Like I'm going to tell you straight up.

01:00:37.740 Like I, I don't want this.

01:00:39.420 Okay.

01:00:39.700 So how many boyfriends have you had?

01:00:41.700 Like actual boyfriends, two.

01:00:43.980 Two.

01:00:44.240 What about like medium term, maybe they didn't end up being a boyfriend, but you were dating

01:00:49.860 for three months, six months, that sort of thing.

01:00:51.660 Um, like how would I break up with them?

01:00:54.940 No, no, no.

01:00:55.300 Just like, are you ending it or are they ending it more often than not?

01:00:58.640 Oh no, I'm, I'm ending it.

01:01:01.480 FTG thing for the 50 gifted memberships.

01:01:04.320 Would you say a hundred percent of the time you've ended it and ended it?

01:01:10.420 Yeah.

01:01:11.040 Okay.

01:01:11.300 What about you?

01:01:11.920 I would say it's been a pretty even split.

01:01:13.540 50-50?

01:01:14.400 Okay.

01:01:15.760 Uh, I would say even just in general, not just me, but women just are the ones to end things.

01:01:21.080 Hold on.

01:01:21.500 We'll come back to that.

01:01:22.080 Loose pussy energy donated 99.

01:01:23.620 LPE, let's go.

01:01:25.220 Thank you.

01:01:25.520 Help a brother out.

01:01:26.860 Get Walmart Kevin Hart a booster seat so he can see over the table.

01:01:31.340 He likes to be stretched out and has 1,000 decimeters.

01:01:34.340 It's not fair.

01:01:34.940 I'm in a different chair.

01:01:35.900 I'm in a different chair.

01:01:35.940 From 304's first, pause, and second, stop the damn cap.

01:01:40.660 Also, of blondie sound like she eats 10 packs a day.

01:01:45.060 Of cigarettes?

01:01:46.000 You eat 10 packs of cigarettes a day.

01:01:47.780 She's just down in the house.

01:01:48.540 First of all, first of all, I believe Q because Q, he's a handsome guy.

01:01:54.800 Like, don't, I'm straight.

01:01:55.960 Don't worry about it.

01:01:56.300 I'm just like, Q's a handsome, he's a handsome dude.

01:01:59.720 He's fucking ripped.

01:02:01.300 Yeah.

01:02:01.740 I think I'm average looking though.

01:02:03.200 Get your shirt off.

01:02:03.940 Dude, dude, dude, dude.

01:02:04.580 You're, you're, okay.

01:02:05.720 I tell everybody I'm an average looking guy.

01:02:07.320 Also, the fucking, it's not fair because the, the, the, the, it's the angles.

01:02:13.580 No, it's, it's, it's the fucking angle because I'm closer, like, I'm closer to this camera

01:02:18.540 and I'm in, I'm in a Herman Miller and he's in one of our regular chairs and how tall are

01:02:23.400 you, dude?

01:02:23.860 I'm 6'8".

01:02:24.660 He's 6'8".

01:02:25.400 So he's just towering.

01:02:27.240 Should we swap seats?

01:02:29.460 I'll just crunch down.

01:02:31.220 Guys, be not, come on.

01:02:32.380 Okay.

01:02:32.640 All right.

01:02:32.920 So go ahead.

01:02:33.700 Go ahead, Kelly.

01:02:34.760 What were you talking about?

01:02:36.360 Uh, like breaking up more often than not.

01:02:38.660 No.

01:02:38.880 Yeah.

01:02:39.080 Men don't really like leave that much.

01:02:41.940 Like men don't like leaving because if you have like a woman that is doing whatever you

01:02:48.940 need to, like, there's no point of leaving her.

01:02:51.200 It's like, you're just going to go and go with other women.

01:02:53.280 You're going to do whatever you need to do.

01:02:54.660 You're going to hope she doesn't find out, but they're not going to leave.

01:02:58.520 So at the end of the day, it's a, yeah, like a woman is going to end it.

01:03:02.700 For the one other relationship that I've had, like I've never casually

01:03:06.200 dated, like, like they said, I've only ever dated to marry and I did end it because he

01:03:11.680 was just not fully invested in me.

01:03:13.860 I was fully invested in him.

01:03:15.240 He was just lacking.

01:03:16.260 He cared more about his friends than me and just, it ends for a bunch of reasons.

01:03:20.800 What, what about something, your more short-term situations?

01:03:24.220 Was it you saying, don't want to see you anymore?

01:03:27.040 No, every, every other short-term situation, the guys left me.

01:03:31.120 Or was it a mutual ghost?

01:03:32.860 No, it wasn't a mutual ghost.

01:03:34.220 Oh, so you were pursuing, but.

01:03:35.020 I was just ghosted.

01:03:36.260 Oh, shit.

01:03:36.880 Like every single time.

01:03:38.360 Rip, RIP's in the chat for Madison.

01:03:40.220 Alex, what about you?

01:03:41.600 Majority of the time, the guy is breaking up with me or ghosting me.

01:03:45.200 Oh, that's not good.

01:03:46.740 Okay.

01:03:49.240 But wait a minute, can I give context?

01:03:50.980 Sure, sure, sure.

01:03:51.800 All right, the context is, is that I am in, and this is what may be to my detriment, but

01:03:57.080 right out the gate, I always say I'm dating for marriage.

01:03:59.720 First date, you'd say that?

01:04:02.260 Yes.

01:04:03.340 Alarm bills.

01:04:03.760 First date, I say that, and every single time the relationship has ended, and I'm thinking,

01:04:08.400 I would say since 23 years old, I've probably had five serious relationships.

01:04:12.540 Every single one, it ends because they're not on my timeline.

01:04:15.600 They say similar things to what Q says.

01:04:17.640 What's the timeline?

01:04:18.700 Oh, jeez.

01:04:19.180 It's the timeline, like they're not ready for marriage.

01:04:20.900 They hit home when I said what I said.

01:04:22.460 They're not in a time in their life where they're ready for marriage and things like that,

01:04:25.800 so that's why they're ending things, because they know that that's my, what I'm looking

01:04:29.500 for.

01:04:29.740 Wait, but so you're in a relationship with these guys, you're kind of starting to have

01:04:33.260 serious conversations about the future, and then they end it, or, because there's more

01:04:38.580 than one way, there's, like, you can ask for a breakup.

01:04:42.080 Like, there's more than one way to ask for something, you know?

01:04:44.760 No, I think they're ending it, because they're like, yeah, I can't give you what you want,

01:04:48.060 like, I know that you don't want to date.

01:04:49.140 I don't want to be in a serious relationship dating somebody for probably now that I'm

01:04:53.460 30 longer than a year before getting engaged, so if we're dating for a year or so, at that

01:04:58.800 point, I'm wanting him to know if he could marry me or not.

01:05:02.460 Okay.

01:05:03.400 Isaac, what about you?

01:05:04.360 More often than not, of your anything, whether it's short-term, medium-term, long-term, more

01:05:10.300 often than not, were you ending things, or was the girl ending things?

01:05:14.020 I think it would be probably, I probably had, like, four proper girlfriends before I met

01:05:19.140 my wife, but we met, like, I was 21, she was 19, so I think it was probably even, you

01:05:25.300 know, 50-50, but I think dudes just don't end it, because if dudes are getting the business,

01:05:32.960 why would you?

01:05:33.960 Exactly.

01:05:34.480 Like, if you get your balls drained, like, what are you doing?

01:05:36.840 Like, if you're eating, if you're getting takeout every night...

01:05:39.400 Well, there's more to relationships than that, right?

01:05:41.380 But it's, like, for you, it's, like, why would you leave that, why would you leave

01:05:45.200 your favorite girl, like, you know, like, you're not going to do that, especially not

01:05:49.800 for one of the side chicks.

01:05:51.420 Also, as you said, with the marriage thing, if you don't want to scare guys away, maybe

01:05:56.620 it's the timing is when you bring up marriage.

01:05:58.600 Well, and that's the thing, but I'm not, like, so where's this going on the first day?

01:06:02.600 I'm not saying that, but I'm just, like, hey, you know, after we've been there for a

01:06:07.000 while, and the small talk and everything, that's when I'm, like, you know, so what are

01:06:10.420 you looking for?

01:06:11.460 It's a little scary for guys on the first date, when a woman brings that up.

01:06:15.460 And we don't do it.

01:06:15.960 Oh, sorry, hold on, just a sec.

01:06:18.060 I think it's nice that Steve-O finally transitioned to a woman.

01:06:22.440 Welcome, Christy.

01:06:23.740 You look like someone microwaved a Barbie.

01:06:26.880 Just kidding.

01:06:27.940 I am tired of seeing all these beautiful women on the Whatever podcast.

01:06:32.340 Thanks for changing things up, Christy.

01:06:34.980 Do you have a response to that?

01:06:36.400 Okay, so wait, I think it ended as a compliment.

01:06:40.040 Yeah.

01:06:40.740 So, thank you.

01:06:41.860 Steve-O, Christy-O, I mean, the username is cool.

01:06:46.400 Okay.

01:06:47.400 Thanks.

01:06:48.720 Would you do a show with Steve-O if we got him on?

01:06:51.100 Oh, yeah.

01:06:52.800 That's what I was saying.

01:06:54.000 Couldn't even speak.

01:06:55.780 All right.

01:06:57.160 Q, you were in the middle of saying something, I think.

01:07:00.960 No, I was just responding to what she said.

01:07:02.100 Alex was talking about her timing thing.

01:07:05.780 Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying it here directly, but, like, in a real-life scenario, I'm not

01:07:10.440 being super aggressive about it.

01:07:12.700 But I do, on a first date, I think it's fair to just be like, so, you know, what are you

01:07:16.160 looking for?

01:07:16.480 Are you looking for something casual?

01:07:17.540 Are you here because you're just looking for a long-term relationship?

01:07:20.360 Are you dating for marriage?

01:07:21.600 It's some, it's, you know, it goes like that, basically.

01:07:23.900 That's right.

01:07:24.400 So, you have an issue with the go-with-the-flow mentality.

01:07:27.260 Yes, I do.

01:07:28.080 But that's how men operate, though.

01:07:29.640 Well, that, I'm, I want someone that's more grown than that.

01:07:32.640 So, you're just wanting to jump into the marriage.

01:07:34.940 I think it's immature.

01:07:35.320 But I think a lot of, a lot of grown men do like to just date for a while before they

01:07:39.500 marry who they want to marry, especially, like, we were just talking about marriage.

01:07:43.100 But a year to two years, I think if you're at a certain age, like, if you're a guy that

01:07:46.800 is dating for marriage, you should know.

01:07:48.180 There should be qualities that you get to know that you're like, okay, I could see this

01:07:50.560 person being my wife or not.

01:07:52.500 How long do you want to date somebody before you get married?

01:07:56.780 That's how women operate, also.

01:07:59.000 I think men operate very differently from that.

01:08:00.900 Between a year and two years.

01:08:02.300 Two years?

01:08:02.500 So, like, a year in, like...

01:08:04.220 You'd need ten.

01:08:05.360 No way.

01:08:05.620 You don't know people.

01:08:06.960 I'm 30 years, I'm 30.

01:08:08.640 Yeah, but isn't that better than divorcing in ten years' time because you hate each other?

01:08:12.100 Date for ten years?

01:08:13.060 No, I will not have kids.

01:08:13.900 Five years.

01:08:14.220 Five years.

01:08:15.640 Yeah, that's still putting you in a danger zone for, like, having kids and stuff.

01:08:18.580 I mean, if I was 23, yes.

01:08:21.460 Yeah.

01:08:21.640 I think that's different.

01:08:22.700 So, when you were 23, like, in your 20s, like, were you dating?

01:08:29.860 Yes, but I think I always...

01:08:31.720 Why didn't you feel like you wanted to get...

01:08:35.640 So, all the guys that you dated were just not...

01:08:38.320 No, several of them...

01:08:40.000 Okay, well, I say several.

01:08:41.080 But I've had five serious relationships in my 20s, and four of them, I think I would have

01:08:48.160 been willing, potentially, to talk marriage and maybe see if, but none of them were wanting

01:08:56.680 that because all of them...

01:08:57.240 It sounds like what you're saying.

01:08:58.180 It happens, like, that flip to where you're sort of, like, dating to meet people and dating

01:09:01.980 for marriage.

01:09:02.940 That happens later for guys.

01:09:04.940 It sounds like that's what you've experienced, too.

01:09:06.460 So, like, for generalizing here, obviously, but for females, that happens kind of like

01:09:10.860 mid-20s, maybe, for some people's later.

01:09:13.640 But for most guys, I hear it's like, oh, I was in my early to mid-30s, and then I was

01:09:18.920 like, oh, I'm looking for a wife in between now.

01:09:20.260 Well, and that's what happened.

01:09:21.020 And I think a lot of them, it was, like, the girl after me that they dated, that's who

01:09:24.380 they end up getting engaged to.

01:09:26.380 It's like, they're just...

01:09:27.200 Our timing is just slightly off where I'm ready and they're not.

01:09:30.080 Let me just finish this off cue.

01:09:32.900 More often than not, who was ending things?

01:09:34.780 Was it the girl or the...

01:09:36.040 Prior to age 24, it was the girl ending things first.

01:09:40.820 After that, it's been me.

01:09:42.360 I mean, I've only been in two relationships after 24, but I ended both of those.

01:09:47.780 And you say after 24, was that just because circumstance, like a happenstance, or did

01:09:53.200 you level up at 24?

01:09:54.760 It had to do with leveling up, becoming more mature, being more aware of women and how

01:09:58.540 they behave.

01:09:59.200 Yeah.

01:09:59.560 And I'd say, for me, more often than not, in relationships, I've found it's women that,

01:10:07.180 not all of my relationships, but women tend to, maybe it's like 60-40, tend to end

01:10:13.380 them more so.

01:10:14.680 Maybe even 70-30.

01:10:15.940 I don't know.

01:10:16.280 I got to do the math.

01:10:16.860 I got to do the ratio math on that.

01:10:18.200 Do you think that's because dudes are just like, girls, sorry, are just like, I can find

01:10:21.180 a better dude than this?

01:10:22.180 Well, I think women definitely have a lot more options.

01:10:24.360 Oh, a thousand percent.

01:10:25.380 Way more options.

01:10:25.960 Guys don't care.

01:10:27.180 They will have sex with anything.

01:10:29.320 That's literally, completely, absolutely true.

01:10:31.880 Any dude.

01:10:32.880 But they don't care.

01:10:34.560 The reason I ask this, though, is, Alex, you were talking about men being afraid of commitment.

01:10:41.000 And I mean, the thing is, is that, but it's interesting to me that even though commitment

01:10:45.880 is the thing that women really, really want, when they get it, they seem to overwhelmingly

01:10:50.840 end relationships, and they overwhelmingly initiate divorce.

01:10:55.380 I think it's 80% of divorces are initiated by women.

01:10:58.720 So it's not weird.

01:10:59.220 I think that's part of culture feeding into women, telling us, like, it's always greener

01:11:03.680 on the other side.

01:11:04.900 You know, you have to look outside of the home to find fulfillment.

01:11:08.240 Like, you know, raising kids, being a stay-at-home mom, you're going to be so unhappy.

01:11:11.620 And they tell us that, and it seeds doubt in us.

01:11:14.880 And then we look for that elsewhere.

01:11:16.440 And I think that contributes to women being the ones to file for divorce more.

01:11:20.340 Yeah, but I mean, couldn't you say that actually men are more commitment-minded?

01:11:26.080 Because just going off of the marriage statistics...

01:11:29.540 Potentially in the past, I just, I think, tied the turning...

01:11:32.160 Because I think feminism really ruined women in that perspective.

01:11:36.760 So then obviously men were like, well, I don't want that.

01:11:39.520 So then they went the other direction.

01:11:41.100 Now you're seeing a lot more younger conservative women that are like, no, wait, like, I'm being

01:11:45.200 left in the dust now.

01:11:45.980 Like, I do want to get married and have a committed relationship.

01:11:49.260 And those guys are like, I'm not buying it.

01:11:51.220 But I do, I think it's interesting because one, you said men fear and commitment.

01:11:55.800 And then on the other hand, you said after they got done with you, they ended up committing

01:12:00.140 to the next woman.

01:12:01.500 Yeah, because then it's been a couple years.

01:12:03.220 And by that point, they're in their late 20s.

01:12:05.280 And I think then they're ready.

01:12:06.800 So fearing commitment is merely a perception.

01:12:09.720 Do you think that it's valid to assume that they aren't ready?

01:12:13.200 And when you, on a first date, if you say, I'm dating to marry, as I said, men don't approach

01:12:17.600 dating like that because we want to know who we're getting with.

01:12:20.360 We just had a conversation about the woman you get with, that's probably the most, you

01:12:26.320 know, important choice you make in your life as a man.

01:12:28.540 So if you come to me, oh, I'm dating to marry, then I'm like, this woman might pressure me.

01:12:34.520 This woman might try to get me to speed up my process.

01:12:37.160 This woman is going to make me feel uncomfortable.

01:12:39.120 So if you make me feel uncomfortable, then naturally I'm going to divert away.

01:12:43.760 So do you think that's a possibility?

01:12:45.880 Oh, sure, yeah.

01:12:46.860 You know, because you just put it on the men fear commitment.

01:12:49.440 You made it, you put the accountability on the men as opposed to doing some introspective

01:12:53.780 assessment and seeing if there's anything you could work on in your approach to dating

01:12:57.460 and what your expectations are.

01:12:59.000 Potentially.

01:12:59.540 I mean, I roast myself all the time for that.

01:13:01.640 Is that it could be that I am, maybe I should, you know, just step back and just be like,

01:13:07.220 go with the flow.

01:13:08.360 See where it goes and not say anything.

01:13:10.780 So, I mean.

01:13:11.200 And you can always say, I really like you.

01:13:12.920 I really like you, you know.

01:13:15.180 You know, the closer we grow, the more we develop.

01:13:17.220 I would like something serious.

01:13:18.740 You could approach it in that way as opposed to this is what I want.

01:13:21.440 And evolutionarily, it's understandable because you have a biological clock.

01:13:25.420 So if you want to have kids and you want to start a family, then of course you're going

01:13:28.080 to push for marriage sooner than a man would push for marriage because a man has ample time.

01:13:32.120 And it's not.

01:13:32.560 Let me just be clear on this.

01:13:33.820 It's not every guy I go on a date with or something.

01:13:36.020 I mean, sometimes I go on a date and I know within 30 seconds I am not interested in this

01:13:40.780 person.

01:13:41.140 So it's not like every guy I'm saying that.

01:13:42.800 It's if I've been with someone or talked to them and I really like them, you know what

01:13:48.540 I mean, then we're having those conversations.

01:13:50.400 You get infatuated?

01:13:51.740 You wanting to be daddy?

01:13:52.880 Husband?

01:13:53.000 No, I actually, I feel like I don't like that many people.

01:13:57.880 Like when it's few and far between when I find somebody that I really like, I'm always

01:14:01.520 very taken aback by it.

01:14:03.480 Yeah, that makes it worse.

01:14:05.080 That makes it worse.

01:14:05.900 For sure, it probably does.

01:14:07.060 That's what I'm saying.

01:14:07.800 So you get infatuated.

01:14:09.000 You meet a guy and you're like, this guy is, he's unusual.

01:14:12.060 He makes me feel a way that most guys don't make me feel.

01:14:14.520 So he must be the one because he's the one making me feel like other men don't make me

01:14:18.560 feel.

01:14:19.000 I think that's fair.

01:14:19.820 I don't think like your view on marriage is wrong.

01:14:22.500 I just think like your timing.

01:14:24.660 Cause like I'm 22.

01:14:26.320 Me and my, me and my guy, we've been together for like three years.

01:14:29.540 Cause we've talked about potentially marrying each other, but it's not like that big deal

01:14:36.800 where it's like, oh, you have to marry me or it's just not going anywhere.

01:14:40.680 Like I just think right now we know.

01:14:43.120 But how much time, how much of your time would you let a guy waste before asking that?

01:14:48.180 I wouldn't, I wouldn't worry about how long it'll take him to marry me.

01:14:51.480 As long as I know like he wants to marry me.

01:14:53.720 Like if he was to tell me right now, I would marry you.

01:14:56.380 That's all I need to hear.

01:14:57.320 So he's telling his girl that.

01:14:59.080 I don't think a guy's necessarily like wasting your time either by making the wait, because

01:15:03.040 I think those conversations often scare men away.

01:15:07.220 A lot of women, younger women end up dating older men.

01:15:10.260 I think because of that commitment issue that we're talking about, but yet younger women

01:15:13.520 get a lot of flack for dating older men at the same time because they're viewed as gold

01:15:17.260 diggers and things like that.

01:15:18.340 So is it also fair to say then that it's understandable that younger women are dating older men because

01:15:23.480 at that point, men have reached a certain immaturity level.

01:15:26.480 Oh yeah, absolutely.

01:15:27.640 I definitely have no qualms with that.

01:15:29.560 I mean, I say all the time, if a guy can provide you with what you want in order to provide

01:15:33.380 a stable environment that you can raise kids, then yeah, go for that guy.

01:15:37.200 That means that guy is 20 years older than you because you don't want to wait on the guy

01:15:40.160 with potential.

01:15:41.060 You don't want to wait to see if he fulfills that potential.

01:15:43.320 Then absolutely jump on the opportunity to secure whatever it is that you're trying to

01:15:46.560 secure for your future.

01:15:47.280 Can I say something?

01:15:48.740 I do.

01:15:48.980 I do have to move things along here a little bit.

01:15:51.520 Um, yo chat, uh, there were some adjustments made to the audio, which might not have been

01:15:58.900 the right call.

01:16:00.880 Uh, chat, has the audio just been absolutely fucked, like way too low on some people too

01:16:06.880 hot?

01:16:07.140 Like, has it just been totally fucked this entire time, guys?

01:16:11.420 Um, Nick, can you pull up Twitch?

01:16:13.000 It's good now, but was it, was it bad before?

01:16:20.380 Like, just totally unlevel?

01:16:24.420 Okay.

01:16:25.900 Oh, everyone's saying it's been fine.

01:16:27.820 Okay, that's fine.

01:16:28.880 Oh, uh, so guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

01:16:33.500 Drop us a follow in a Prime sub.

01:16:35.860 Let's see here.

01:16:36.460 We have Zeton, think for the Prime.

01:16:37.720 Pub test, think for the tier one.

01:16:39.920 Monkey, think for the Prime.

01:16:40.880 Hellshock, think for the Prime.

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01:16:43.520 Rockin, think for the Prime.

01:16:45.160 Eye, Body Drop, think for the Prime.

01:16:46.900 I'll get the fit check here in just a sec, guys.

01:16:48.800 Let me do a couple chats.

01:16:50.140 We have Puffy Vegas.

01:16:51.860 Hey, thank you, man.

01:16:52.440 Good to see you in the chat.

01:16:53.740 Puffy Vegas, I will rate all girls rate with the blonde all seven.

01:16:58.220 Okay, thank you, Puffy.

01:16:59.700 I have 13 side girls, Puffy Vegas.

01:17:02.860 Thank you.

01:17:03.640 Puffy Vegas, I've never met...

01:17:05.180 Thanks.

01:17:05.940 Puffy's on a ten.

01:17:08.780 I've never met a woman in my entire life, and I'm...

01:17:12.960 What?

01:17:13.600 And I'm known thousands.

01:17:15.160 I've never met a woman that was...

01:17:17.320 He's never met a woman that was faithful.

01:17:18.680 We have infinite singularity here.

01:17:22.440 Hey, thank you, man.

01:17:23.840 Major premise, child rearing thrives in consistent settings.

01:17:27.560 Minor premise, E&M inherently presents more flux than monogamy.

01:17:33.140 Conclusion, hence, E&M could pose challenges to optimal child rearing.

01:17:39.660 Okay.

01:17:40.300 I actually agree with that.

01:17:41.940 Monogamy is...

01:17:42.460 When it comes to having kids, I'd say probably monogamy is probably the best way to go.

01:17:48.140 Infinite singularity.

01:17:49.300 Girl in blue.

01:17:50.620 So by...

01:17:51.160 Who's in blue?

01:17:53.060 Alex.

01:17:53.520 Oh, okay.

01:17:54.140 All right.

01:17:55.640 I guess I can't see tonight.

01:17:58.200 So by simply choosing right, love's all sunshine, genius, all these years, and here

01:18:03.440 I was thinking relationships took effort.

01:18:05.780 Guess I've overlooked my crystal ball.

01:18:07.640 Who knew predicting the future was so basic?

01:18:09.660 What...

01:18:10.060 That is...

01:18:10.740 Do you have a response to that?

01:18:11.820 Well, first of all, that is so stupid.

01:18:13.460 That's exactly what I'm saying is that love isn't all sunshine.

01:18:16.320 It's super, super tough.

01:18:17.620 But if you're marrying somebody, you have the same worldview, you know, all the big key

01:18:22.440 things that typically contribute to problems in relationship.

01:18:25.480 If you pick the right person that you mesh well with that stuff, then all of those hardships

01:18:30.120 are going to come a lot easier.

01:18:31.700 Okay.

01:18:32.700 We have Ryan the Eating Warrior.

01:18:35.360 Thank you, man.

01:18:35.760 Women after 30 want marriage fast because they got nothing to lose and everything to gain

01:18:40.360 LMFAO.

01:18:41.140 Correct.

01:18:42.240 Oh, okay.

01:18:43.120 That's correct.

01:18:44.100 I mean, like, that's what I'm saying.

01:18:46.080 Like, we do have, I think, one huge problem is that we have been told as women that we

01:18:51.240 basically don't have a biological clock, that we don't have a timeline.

01:18:54.100 Like, pursue your career first in your 20s and your 30s, worry about marriage in your

01:18:57.840 40s, and that's absolutely a lie.

01:19:00.820 I don't think that's what is taught nowadays.

01:19:04.460 I mean, like, it's more common nowadays, but that's not the traditional way of how it

01:19:08.660 You don't think that we're told, like, put career first, worry about family?

01:19:10.820 The traditional way is to get married as soon as, like, well, now.

01:19:13.160 But, like, wouldn't you say, Kelly, that the traditional way is kind of in the rear view?

01:19:18.460 Well, you just say, because you're against marriage.

01:19:21.080 No, no, but, like, traditionally, getting married first, not putting career first.

01:19:26.260 Like, I think my, I mean, I'm a young millennial growing up.

01:19:28.980 Like, it was always, like, girl boss culture, put your career first, family later.

01:19:32.420 Yeah, even now, like, the kids growing up right now, they're not worried about boyfriends

01:19:37.220 and marriage, and they're worried about where's my next check coming from, the bag, what's

01:19:43.360 going to help me live my successful life.

01:19:45.620 Exactly.

01:19:45.920 Like, they're not thinking about the long run.

01:19:47.340 They're not thinking about housing a kid's on the hill somewhere with a picket fence.

01:19:51.860 I do get what you're saying, though, Kelly.

01:19:52.980 Like, just, like, the initial traditional way is to get married first.

01:19:57.780 Like, I don't, I'm not saying that there's a problem.

01:19:59.620 I'm just saying, like, once, like, we do have a biological clock as women.

01:20:03.960 We're at a certain age.

01:20:05.480 Like, once we're 30, then our options get lower.

01:20:08.620 It's harder for us to find.

01:20:09.580 And as women get older, it's harder to find, you know, someone, because men now at 30,

01:20:14.960 they're looking at, you know, the women who are still in their 20s, and they want, and

01:20:19.300 those women are looking to get married.

01:20:21.420 So I think that, like, getting married later on in life is, it wouldn't be, like, personally

01:20:29.000 my preference.

01:20:29.960 But Kelly, wouldn't you say that, like...

01:20:31.300 But then I think we're agreeing.

01:20:32.160 Wouldn't you say that with, like, feminism and mainstream culture of, like, hey, go be

01:20:37.440 a girl boss, get your bag, get your money.

01:20:40.180 Yeah, I was thinking about marriage right now.

01:20:42.760 Like, the younger generation.

01:20:43.840 Like, I would agree with Alex that I do think, generally speaking, there's, we are teaching

01:20:49.540 women, focus on your career, disregard relationships, get your career built up, and then...

01:20:55.160 But we shouldn't be.

01:20:56.060 That's the problem.

01:20:56.560 In your 30s, your magical husband will appear, and a lot of women are finding out that's

01:21:02.140 been, like, the traditional way is now looked frowned upon, when it really should be being

01:21:07.940 embraced.

01:21:08.580 Like, I think feminism completely ruined so many things.

01:21:13.120 Because now, like Kelly said, it just works to the detriment of women.

01:21:15.960 Like, you get to that age 30, and then there's no one there for you anymore.

01:21:18.760 Let's, uh, we got a bunch of people wanting the fit check for the gifted sub, so if we can

01:21:24.540 have everybody stand up, we're going to do fit check, if y'all want to stand up and show

01:21:30.440 them, I guess, the outfit, I guess, it's...

01:21:32.600 I wasn't told I'd be standing up.

01:21:34.340 You might have to stand up.

01:21:35.140 I wore shorts.

01:21:36.220 Oh, look, even better.

01:21:40.720 All right, we got the fit check over here.

01:21:42.980 I'll just stay seated to control this over here.

01:21:45.520 Uh, okay, we, what is, is that some, what, what do you got, Madison?

01:21:49.500 What are you wearing?

01:21:51.360 Skims.

01:21:52.020 Is that, what is that?

01:21:53.660 It's a dress.

01:21:54.520 Who, who, is that?

01:21:55.700 Kim Kardashian was.

01:21:56.380 Kim Kardashian, okay.

01:21:57.260 All right, we got, oh, wow, okay, can't even see those guys.

01:22:01.760 Uh, okay, cool, that's it, that's the fit check.

01:22:05.740 All right, there you guys, I think I got to get rid of the fit check, it's so ridiculous.

01:22:10.100 I wish we had a fit check last time, because I liked my outfit, I like...

01:22:12.700 I, yeah, I removed the fit check option, I think I'm just going to get rid of it.

01:22:16.280 Uh, the chat, here, wait, let me ask the chat, one in the chat, guys, is the fit check,

01:22:20.440 what's the, who cares?

01:22:21.880 What is the point of the, yeah, what is the point of that?

01:22:24.100 It's a little objectifying, don't you think?

01:22:25.460 I think, well, hold on, the gentleman here also stood up, besides me.

01:22:28.860 I mean, but most of your cast is girls, so it's not really for the guys.

01:22:33.220 One in the chat to keep the fit check, two in the chat to get rid of it.

01:22:36.720 I, I, one in the chat to keep it, two in the chat, get rid of it.

01:22:40.760 I really think it would have been better last time, because...

01:22:43.140 With Adam and Lena, and...

01:22:44.560 Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, so much better, and, like, why was Isabella wearing a jump suit?

01:22:48.460 There's a lot of wins.

01:22:49.100 Like, I was just confused at a lot of people's outfits, so, yeah, it would have been way better.

01:22:54.040 Yeah, I think I, what, what's the chat saying?

01:22:57.900 Mostly, I guess they like it.

01:22:59.600 Okay, all right.

01:23:00.880 All right, I don't know, it's kind of fringe, but whatever.

01:23:03.600 All right, um, okay, so we, uh, let's see, what did we have to, uh, oh, we have Puffy here.

01:23:09.940 I've never met a woman that was faithful.

01:23:12.560 Puffy's doing it tough.

01:23:13.560 Okay, well, we're in Vegas, Puffy.

01:23:15.400 You're not gonna find a faithful woman just living in Vegas going on a strip all the time.

01:23:18.580 Is Met the woman that he's dating?

01:23:20.260 I guess, I guess so.

01:23:22.140 I guess so.

01:23:22.780 How many women have he been with?

01:23:24.180 He says he's got 12 side chicks right now, which I...

01:23:27.300 Thirteen.

01:23:27.940 I, oh, was it thirteen?

01:23:29.140 I'm calling, I'm calling bullshit.

01:23:31.540 One of them is loyal to him.

01:23:33.180 I am calling, I think he has seven, but thirteen, Puffy, come on, let's be, let's be real here.

01:23:39.580 What's his ratio?

01:23:40.320 Speaking of ratio, speaking of ratio here, uh, let's see.

01:23:45.500 So, um, okay, I'm trying to think where I wanted to pick up on this.

01:23:49.860 So, some of you were so kind as to provide some pre-show, uh, uh, answers to a couple questions.

01:23:56.460 So, Christy, I think the big thing that we argued on last show is, so you, you do OF, you have adult content, uh, and you described yourself as conservative and traditional.

01:24:10.340 I think the big sticking point last show was that we rejected your title of being considered traditional.

01:24:19.820 Yeah.

01:24:20.400 Um, so, but, but, so you consider yourself traditional, but you post very revealing photos online and you have an OnlyFans.

01:24:27.380 So, I guess my question, again, is how do you continue to reconcile your basically doing porn and also being traditional?

01:24:37.700 So, I'm a monogamous and, like, I think that just because I have been OnlyFans, people think I'm, like, having sex with all these people.

01:24:45.820 Like, I'm literally only having sex with my boyfriend.

01:24:48.520 I would never have sex, let my boyfriend have sex with someone or I have sex with someone if I'm in a relationship.

01:24:55.880 I'm not into that.

01:24:57.400 Um, I want to raise my family very traditionally.

01:25:01.920 I believe that the man is the leader of the household and the woman should be the caretaker.

01:25:06.260 Like, I'm going to raise a very traditional family, you know, just because I have OnlyFans with my boyfriend, now ex-boyfriend.

01:25:14.380 That's not going to change how I raise my children or how our household is.

01:25:19.720 Like, we're going to have a traditional household.

01:25:22.440 I don't think it's the monogamy that's in question.

01:25:25.100 It's the fact that you have an OnlyFans.

01:25:26.820 Yeah.

01:25:26.920 That's what's in question.

01:25:27.900 Here's the definition of conservative, a person favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.

01:25:36.140 Also, averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.

01:25:41.040 Now, when I think of traditional values, I don't typically think that, like, doing adult content and OnlyFans falls in the lane of doing, of tradition, of being traditional.

01:25:53.060 I think people are just mad because I don't fit into a box and they wanted to, like, fit me into some sort of box.

01:25:59.200 Like, my conservative, traditional values, I've always had them.

01:26:02.820 And then I got into OnlyFans later.

01:26:05.400 But, like, I'm not, like, I had, like, porn stars on the left of me saying how they, like, have orgies and all this stuff.

01:26:12.180 Like, I don't do stuff like that.

01:26:14.280 So, it's, like, a new day and age.

01:26:17.720 Like, OnlyFans, like, it's not, like, there's so many different creators.

01:26:23.880 But, Christy, Christy, there's photos and videos of you online of you having sex with men.

01:26:29.540 That's not tradition.

01:26:30.540 Public nudity is not very traditional and conservative.

01:26:34.000 But it doesn't mean I'm going to raise my children.

01:26:35.220 But would you be mad if your daughter was doing OnlyFans?

01:26:37.520 I'm going to raise my kids to be entrepreneurs.

01:26:40.460 And I actually don't want my kids to go to college because they're getting indoctrinated.

01:26:45.040 So, whatever they want to do as an entrepreneur.

01:26:47.720 Is it entrepreneurial to, like, jam yourself on OnlyFans?

01:26:51.080 With my boyfriend.

01:26:52.680 But is that entrepreneurial?

01:26:54.480 Like, Elon Musk look at that and go, wow.

01:26:56.320 Because it's my business.

01:26:57.100 Okay, but did your parents raise you as an entrepreneur to make an OnlyFans?

01:27:01.420 Well, OnlyFans didn't exist before.

01:27:03.480 I have, okay, I looked.

01:27:05.100 I didn't subscribe to your OnlyFans.

01:27:06.480 Are you sure?

01:27:06.980 Because I don't do that.

01:27:07.380 Are you sure?

01:27:07.840 I'm very sure.

01:27:08.920 But I did look at the landing page.

01:27:11.780 And it says, warning, don't stay here too long or your cock will explode.

01:27:19.220 Yeah, it does.

01:27:20.200 Don't you hate it?

01:27:21.100 Don't you hate it?

01:27:22.420 When your cock explodes, when you hang around for too long.

01:27:24.680 That doesn't strike me.

01:27:27.100 By the way, forgive my French.

01:27:29.100 It doesn't strike me as particularly conservative or traditional.

01:27:33.660 I have the same description on my comedy website when I sell tickets.

01:27:36.480 Don't come to the show because your cock will explode.

01:27:39.120 That would actually make me want to come even more.

01:27:41.760 You'll come.

01:27:42.400 No pun intended.

01:27:43.500 No pun intended.

01:27:45.560 We'll all come.

01:27:46.260 It's an orgy.

01:27:47.380 So.

01:27:48.640 I think, okay, here's the distinction that I think needs to be made.

01:27:53.260 You're saying that you can be conservative and do OnlyFans.

01:27:55.740 It's, but you love Trump and all these different things.

01:27:58.500 And that's how you vote.

01:27:59.500 You vote red.

01:28:00.480 I would argue that you're a Republican, but not conservative.

01:28:04.440 And there's a huge difference.

01:28:06.060 I think with being conservative, you're conserving something.

01:28:09.620 And typically that means traditional social values.

01:28:12.960 But that doesn't mean that you can't be a Republican.

01:28:15.040 They're just very different.

01:28:16.200 Yeah.

01:28:16.420 I think you're certainly a Republican.

01:28:18.380 Obviously.

01:28:18.940 Obviously.

01:28:19.600 Yeah.

01:28:19.740 I'm going to grab her by the whiskey 2024.

01:28:22.000 But I think like that's the whole thing.

01:28:24.080 Where's the Trump photo?

01:28:25.020 Pull the Trump photo up again.

01:28:26.420 But.

01:28:26.520 Can you bring his Trump on this podcast?

01:28:28.240 I think that's going to be a stretch, but I'll do my best.

01:28:31.800 That would be like my dream.

01:28:33.760 Would you make content with Trump?

01:28:35.500 Because you said you wouldn't do it with anyone but your ex-boyfriend.

01:28:38.120 Well, apparently, you know, we were going to get married.

01:28:41.340 Would you let Trump dick down?

01:28:42.520 Because I.

01:28:42.980 If he was, if he was my boyfriend.

01:28:45.640 Do you think he would be your boyfriend?

01:28:47.300 No, because I don't think he's going to get divorced.

01:28:49.000 He does like blonde women.

01:28:50.220 He loves blonde women.

01:28:51.200 He loves jackass.

01:28:51.840 I don't want him to get divorced because I want him to be happy.

01:28:54.220 But I do think if he were single, he'd be very happy with me.

01:28:56.920 Yeah, you look like Melania.

01:28:58.520 He is like an entrepreneur.

01:28:59.560 Sound like a.

01:29:00.780 Yeah.

01:29:01.200 He wasn't like, I mean, people could also argue he's not even a conservative, you know, so.

01:29:07.020 I don't think that's what we're arguing about.

01:29:08.160 I completely understand.

01:29:09.020 Like, I think people are trying to say, oh, I'm not a conservative.

01:29:13.560 I'm a Trump supporter or Republican.

01:29:16.140 But I don't think people understand that I am very conservative in the way I want to raise my children and want my family.

01:29:25.880 And, like, I hate feminism and I think men should be the leaders and women should take care of the children.

01:29:33.900 And, like, that's what they don't seem to understand.

01:29:38.480 So, okay, you are, let's say you are traditional in all the other realms with the exception of not shooting porn, which I think is, like, that's like.

01:29:53.400 I don't identify as a porn star.

01:29:56.080 Well, you're getting Dick Dan on the internet, love.

01:29:58.680 I don't identify because we can identify any way we want.

01:30:02.220 Is it sexual acts that you're doing or just nude photos?

01:30:05.060 Sexual acts.

01:30:06.200 But just with my boyfriend.

01:30:07.580 Well, we were.

01:30:08.120 Well, I'm Trump.

01:30:09.120 Cheeky, that caveat in there like that.

01:30:10.740 Are you still going to do the content now that you guys are broken it?

01:30:14.200 Not with him.

01:30:14.700 Also, now that you're.

01:30:15.640 With my new husband that I got engaged.

01:30:18.300 Now that you're quote unquote engaged and you want to be a mommy soon, like, do you think you would stop your OnlyFans to do that?

01:30:24.300 Oh, no.

01:30:24.800 So you're going to do OnlyFans when you have a daughter?

01:30:26.740 Would you do pregnant OnlyFans?

01:30:28.220 Wait, what?

01:30:28.580 I don't think that's raising your children very traditionally.

01:30:30.740 That is not raising your child.

01:30:32.040 That is not raising a traditional family.

01:30:34.620 I mean, it's not even going to be weird by the time I have kids because there's so many.

01:30:39.300 Your pussy is going to be on the internet.

01:30:41.620 That's a fair point.

01:30:42.700 It's not going to be weird.

01:30:44.340 Everyone's mommy's going to come in.

01:30:45.840 Yeah, like everyone's mom is going to be like having OnlyFans mom by the time.

01:30:50.740 My pussy's not going to be on the internet.

01:30:53.180 Kelly's pussy ain't going to be on the internet.

01:30:56.540 I mean, I'm not telling you to put yours on there, but it's not going to be a weird job by the time I actually have kids and stuff.

01:31:04.840 See, here's the brief.

01:31:06.640 It's just not a traditional job.

01:31:08.620 She's saying that culture's going to change.

01:31:10.840 She's saying culture's going to change by the time that she has kids.

01:31:13.360 It's already going to be normal for everyone to have OnlyFans.

01:31:16.300 We cannot.

01:31:17.180 Hold on.

01:31:18.060 Hold on.

01:31:18.700 Christy, we cannot allow the Overton window to shift for it to be normalized for your mom to have

01:31:26.460 nude photos of herself on the internet.

01:31:29.100 We cannot allow.

01:31:29.940 That's what already is going to happen because of how many content creators there already are.

01:31:34.040 We cannot do it.

01:31:35.600 I have a question.

01:31:36.480 We cannot allow it.

01:31:37.600 We've all donated $100.

01:31:40.600 Definitely feel...

01:31:41.440 Christy's.

01:31:42.620 They're going to be super rich now.

01:31:45.260 But wait.

01:31:46.040 If your...

01:31:46.460 If your...

01:31:47.020 Let's say your husband is so wealthy, you didn't...

01:31:49.960 He wants you to be stay at home.

01:31:51.700 I want to be stay at home.

01:31:53.080 But would you stop?

01:31:54.040 That's the whole point.

01:31:54.320 I stay at home.

01:31:55.240 You already stay at home.

01:31:56.200 I always stay at home.

01:31:57.320 No, but would you stop doing content?

01:32:00.100 I don't...

01:32:01.100 It doesn't really make sense to me because why would I like...

01:32:04.100 I don't want to be a working mom, but I don't really have to do anything to work except for

01:32:09.520 put a camera in my bedroom and make a lot of money.

01:32:11.460 No, but let's say your husband...

01:32:12.780 But if my husband doesn't want me to do it, yeah, I would consider stopping, but actually...

01:32:18.360 You would consider?

01:32:19.640 Yeah, like if he doesn't want me to do it, but like...

01:32:22.100 So the guy that you're engaged to...

01:32:22.760 I haven't been in that situation.

01:32:24.620 Like my engagement guy, like he's down to do it and he's down to promote it.

01:32:28.920 So, and he's from a traditional household.

01:32:32.020 Okay, but are you not?

01:32:33.900 Traditional though.

01:32:34.960 One second.

01:32:36.520 Dating is difficult as a 29-year-old woman, but it became 10 times harder after hitting

01:32:42.060 a six figures.

01:32:43.300 Rachel.

01:32:43.780 Is there hope for women that make a lot of money in the dating scene?

01:32:47.500 Well, I think Q, I think you have something on this, but isn't it the case, Q, that as

01:32:52.080 a woman starts earning more, her pool of potential partners tends to shrink?

01:32:56.000 Absolutely.

01:32:57.120 And why is that?

01:32:58.360 Absolutely, because women require a man who they feel is more competent than them in finances

01:33:02.360 is one of the markers that indicates that.

01:33:05.520 That's true.

01:33:06.800 Men don't really care how much money women make.

01:33:09.200 I think women are more often to leave too because they know they have money and they

01:33:12.260 don't have to depend on anyone for money.

01:33:13.680 You're right.

01:33:14.180 Yeah, definitely.

01:33:15.380 I mean, that's cute and I get it.

01:33:18.060 I get it, I understand, but it comes down to in a lot of social conversations, women think

01:33:23.920 that men value that.

01:33:24.780 So women will say, you know, the classic question, what do you bring to the table?

01:33:28.620 Oh, I make my own money.

01:33:29.980 Well, that doesn't really matter because you're not really going to be-

01:33:32.360 That's not benefiting you.

01:33:32.820 Yeah, exactly.

01:33:33.520 You're not going to be fun in the relationship and you still want me to do it.

01:33:36.920 Yeah.

01:33:37.100 So I would agree.

01:33:38.440 I don't think men care about your accolades.

01:33:41.100 I don't think they care about our education level.

01:33:42.860 I don't think they care about how much money we make, what our career is.

01:33:46.260 I think women think that they do and I don't think men care about that at all.

01:33:51.100 All right.

01:33:51.780 I think we're going to have you guys.

01:33:53.600 Let's see if they-

01:33:54.260 Wait.

01:33:57.660 You guys look kind of similar.

01:33:59.100 It doesn't fit on my head.

01:34:00.020 It doesn't fit?

01:34:00.600 Do we look similar?

01:34:03.020 Is it just because we're Asian?

01:34:04.060 No, it's just because we're Asian.

01:34:04.880 Yeah, that's what I was about to say.

01:34:06.160 Definitely looks similar.

01:34:07.300 Yeah.

01:34:07.400 Because of the pickle haw buzz.

01:34:08.860 Pickle?

01:34:09.760 Because of the hats, the military helmets.

01:34:11.520 Looks good, Kelly.

01:34:12.120 It's a good look for you.

01:34:13.100 You should try to introduce this to Nordstrom's.

01:34:16.420 I don't think that would-

01:34:17.480 You don't think of the World War I helmet?

01:34:21.120 No.

01:34:21.900 It's a good look.

01:34:22.920 Okay.

01:34:24.560 We were talking about tradition.

01:34:28.800 Yeah.

01:34:29.260 I was just going to say, I don't think it's very traditional to raise your kids.

01:34:33.520 I'm sweating.

01:34:33.580 I don't want to sweat.

01:34:34.100 That's fine.

01:34:34.560 That's fine.

01:34:35.400 Do you want to just put it on Kiki's lap?

01:34:37.220 Yeah, yeah.

01:34:37.540 Oh, sure.

01:34:38.080 Just put it on her lap back there.

01:34:39.360 I'm not sweating enough.

01:34:40.700 Kiki has no knees.

01:34:42.400 Yeah, it's weird.

01:34:43.180 Yeah, it looked like they were eight.

01:34:45.440 The rubber, I don't think you can see it on camera, but basically the rubber on her

01:34:50.100 knees, it's like-

01:34:52.120 Not there.

01:34:53.100 There's a joint, and if it's bent, the rubber sheared, like, sheared, so.

01:35:02.200 Okay, Christy.

01:35:03.560 Oh, hold on.

01:35:05.040 Bender the offender donated $99.

01:35:07.900 We must not get to a point in society where boys in high school trade nude photos of their

01:35:13.560 friend's mother-like baseball cards.

01:35:16.080 Damn.

01:35:17.100 Get them graded.

01:35:17.660 Like I said, we cannot allow the Overton window to shift for OF.

01:35:23.780 I invite OF girls on the show.

01:35:27.360 I'm cool with it on that angle, but I don't think we need-

01:35:32.220 We cannot mainstream this.

01:35:35.320 It can't be normalized.

01:35:36.380 It'll be the downfall of society.

01:35:39.600 It hurts girls, too.

01:35:40.140 It already is.

01:35:40.820 It hurts young girls.

01:35:42.420 Like, it's you sit there at the end of high school and you go, I have a way out.

01:35:46.940 I think the best way for someone to succeed in life is to have no other option.

01:35:51.320 Damn.

01:35:51.460 You have to be successful.

01:35:52.840 And it's not saying that people can't be monetarily successful doing OnlyFans, because

01:35:56.220 obviously you are, right?

01:35:57.480 But there's something about not pursuing things that really give you happiness.

01:36:03.640 Oh, sorry, sorry.

01:36:04.880 Sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

01:36:05.620 When you see that as an easy option, and it is.

01:36:08.560 It's an easy option.

01:36:09.740 You still have to do work, but it is like, you know, playing life on recruit mode.

01:36:13.800 It's always a fallback.

01:36:15.840 And I don't think that's a healthy way for young girls to grow up.

01:36:18.560 I mean, yeah, I think people don't really understand it.

01:36:21.820 I've had a lot of other jobs, and this is honestly my favorite one, the easiest one,

01:36:28.340 the one that I make the most money.

01:36:30.480 I didn't really have to do anything.

01:36:32.840 I'm just, like, living my life.

01:36:34.780 That's the thing, though.

01:36:35.740 I think a lot of, it's, I don't know, people think I'm not happy because I'm doing it,

01:36:40.320 but it's, like, the best job I've ever had.

01:36:43.920 Is it because it pays, or it really gives you something?

01:36:46.380 No, because it lets me just live my life in a very feminine energy.

01:36:50.860 Like, I don't, as a female, I hate feminism telling females should go to work.

01:36:56.340 It's not feminine energy having guys' jacket constantly to you online, though.

01:37:01.140 Because I wake up and I decide, oh, do I want to work out?

01:37:05.220 Do I want to go to the pool?

01:37:06.440 What do I want to do?

01:37:07.500 Like, I just, I don't believe, like, women should really have been, like,

01:37:11.540 in the workforce in the first place.

01:37:13.100 But you think women should open up their pussy on the internet?

01:37:15.620 Don't open it up.

01:37:16.340 I mean, Robber by the Pussies 2024, I'm just not bothered.

01:37:23.600 I mean, mine looks really good, so I don't really care if people see it.

01:37:28.400 Fair enough?

01:37:29.180 It's just weird to me that you would, like, possibly consider quitting your OnlyFans

01:37:34.560 if you're a future, quote-unquote, fiancé wants to, but you wouldn't just do it out

01:37:40.040 of the sake of your own, like, goodness and your own values, especially for your children's

01:37:43.820 future and your traditional values.

01:37:45.560 Well, you have to take anything into consideration before you decide on doing it.

01:37:48.540 That's true.

01:37:48.880 I have a question for you.

01:37:50.300 So, would you want your, like, say you're your daughter's idol or whatever, and she

01:37:55.760 knows you do OnlyFans.

01:37:57.380 Would you let her get the OnlyFans?

01:38:00.840 Yeah.

01:38:01.680 Yeah?

01:38:01.980 You would let her see your content?

01:38:03.640 No, she doesn't need to see my content, but if she wanted to become, like, an OnlyFans

01:38:07.880 model, that would be.

01:38:08.460 Like, she's having dudes over.

01:38:11.500 I believe in freedom and entrepreneurship.

01:38:13.640 She's having dudes over every day in her room with the camera.

01:38:17.020 She's having dudes over every day.

01:38:18.800 But I think when you have, but her, because she's, like, I'm saying, she's looking up

01:38:22.580 to you.

01:38:22.780 She's like, oh, my mommy does this.

01:38:24.140 She's making a good life for herself.

01:38:26.240 We're living good.

01:38:27.120 I'm about to do it.

01:38:27.820 Through monogamy, though.

01:38:28.960 There's been several cases.

01:38:29.880 She doesn't have to know it's through monogamy, because all she's-

01:38:32.100 But she would know it was through monogamy.

01:38:33.600 Through her growing up, she's not going to know what monogamy is.

01:38:36.000 I would teach her.

01:38:37.080 Oh, I would teach her what monogamy is.

01:38:38.940 What about for young boys?

01:38:39.860 Like, there's been several cases of young dudes who have-

01:38:42.420 Deleting.

01:38:42.680 Like, they've been bullied.

01:38:43.880 Deleting themselves.

01:38:45.000 Yeah.

01:38:45.220 Because people found out about their mothers.

01:38:47.500 I wasn't going to say it.

01:38:48.280 I think you have to just-

01:38:50.180 Because they get bullied with it.

01:38:51.480 They're getting shown it every day.

01:38:52.480 Look, here's your mom's pussy.

01:38:53.460 Here's your mom's pussy.

01:38:54.240 I see your mom.

01:38:55.200 Clip that.

01:38:56.980 I'm homeschooling my children.

01:38:59.240 Well, don't you do it.

01:38:59.860 Not to say they won't be in their lives, obviously.

01:39:01.240 Here's your mom's pussy.

01:39:02.460 But I'm not sending my kids to get indoctrinated into, like, school.

01:39:07.140 Okay, so-

01:39:08.360 Fair enough.

01:39:09.340 Do we just concede that she's traditional?

01:39:12.260 You're kind of not, though.

01:39:14.000 People just think, okay, I should say I'm a Trump supporter and I'm a Republican, but

01:39:19.040 I'm not traditional.

01:39:20.300 A traditional mom puts cookies in the oven, not-

01:39:22.520 But I'm going to put cookies on the internet.

01:39:25.860 I'm literally going to, like, cook and clean and raise the kids.

01:39:29.720 Jam yourself.

01:39:30.280 How do you expect-

01:39:31.480 With my husband.

01:39:32.760 Yeah, which is great, but that's their dad.

01:39:34.540 Go ahead, Kelly.

01:39:35.160 How do you expect to, like, teach your child monogamy when there's videos of you fucking

01:39:40.360 multiple men on the internet?

01:39:42.020 Only that have been my boyfriend, though.

01:39:44.680 So, like, I've always- I'm always in a monogamous relationship.

01:39:49.880 But you're sharing-

01:39:51.200 I'm sorry.

01:39:51.580 You're sharing the most sacred part of the relationship with the whole internet.

01:39:56.620 A monogamous relationship.

01:39:58.580 But you're sharing the most sacred part of your relationship with the whole internet.

01:40:01.880 Yeah.

01:40:02.180 Do you think your son's going to care if it's-

01:40:03.680 You were monogamous with Brian when he shot a cum shot onto your face?

01:40:06.500 Sorry to use that name.

01:40:08.000 Wait, what?

01:40:09.400 But if he saw that and you said, no, no, but I was dating him at the time, he's like,

01:40:13.000 oh, cool, mom.

01:40:13.800 Nice.

01:40:14.280 It's a moisturizer.

01:40:15.480 I mean, like-

01:40:16.760 You keep focusing on monogamy.

01:40:18.800 Yeah, you keep bringing up monogamy.

01:40:21.680 But I'm not mad that he's a CPA.

01:40:24.280 Does he have nudes on the internet?

01:40:25.940 No, but, like-

01:40:26.980 How do you know that your stepdad doesn't pay to watch your OnlyFans?

01:40:29.480 Ooh.

01:40:30.560 He probably does.

01:40:32.760 He's just under a different username.

01:40:34.780 He does.

01:40:35.220 Q, you had something.

01:40:36.520 Go ahead.

01:40:36.920 I'm serious.

01:40:37.820 No one will ever go for sure, but-

01:40:39.720 Hold on, hold on.

01:40:40.320 Go ahead, Q.

01:40:41.080 I think it's interesting that you keep highlighting monogamy, which tells me that you're more concerned

01:40:45.740 with the perception of being a whore, as opposed to what?

01:40:51.460 I mean, I just only want to have a monogamous relationship.

01:40:54.820 Maybe-

01:40:55.360 But how does that negate the fact that you have an OnlyFans, though?

01:41:00.080 Sorry.

01:41:00.340 Like, you keep saying monogamy, monogamy, monogamy.

01:41:02.640 I don't think that, like, since it's with my boyfriend, I'm not, like, I don't think it's

01:41:06.540 considered being a whore, but you're not, like, sleeping around with, like, a bunch of

01:41:09.600 people.

01:41:09.900 But everyone's seen you.

01:41:11.340 But you're a sex worker.

01:41:12.980 Yeah, exactly.

01:41:14.020 Like, regardless if you're with your man or not, people don't know he's your man.

01:41:17.640 They're not going to deep dive in.

01:41:19.120 Oh, everyone knows.

01:41:19.440 Everyone knows.

01:41:20.440 No.

01:41:20.720 I think it depends on all of them on my own.

01:41:22.140 They're not going to deep dive and be like, oh, it's just because it's her boyfriend.

01:41:25.200 And he's only been the same person.

01:41:26.920 People aren't going to come on your show because they're like, oh, it's just her and her boyfriend.

01:41:31.500 They're coming on your show because you're getting fucked.

01:41:33.860 And that's all they care about.

01:41:36.420 You had something?

01:41:37.240 Yeah, I was just going to say, it sounds like this disagreement is kind of like how you define

01:41:41.400 monogamy.

01:41:41.920 Because if you didn't know, it has it has nothing to do with monogamy.

01:41:44.920 No, but what you guys like what Q is saying is that just because you get dipped down in

01:41:51.100 a MAGA hat doesn't make you conservative.

01:41:53.920 You're lying to yourself like you lied about the police officer assault.

01:41:58.620 Yes, I know the truth.

01:42:00.400 Do you want to address that?

01:42:01.640 Brandon?

01:42:02.080 Yeah.

01:42:02.500 Is that the ex?

01:42:03.020 There was an article and it was, if you like have a brain, clearly could tell the guy that

01:42:10.420 wrote it was really, really mad that I'm a Republican and trying to make me look bad.

01:42:15.480 But yeah, I didn't like get any like charges or anything for that.

01:42:21.260 It's just an article.

01:42:22.520 What did you do?

01:42:24.060 It says I assaulted a police officer, but.

01:42:26.980 What happened?

01:42:27.320 I didn't actually assault a police officer.

01:42:29.940 The charges were dropped or.

01:42:31.700 Yeah.

01:42:32.060 Oh, but you, but you were.

01:42:33.920 I was in my own home and like there weren't supposed to be police let in in the first place.

01:42:40.100 And yeah, the charges were dropped.

01:42:42.800 But so you.

01:42:43.360 And the article you got.

01:42:44.560 Because.

01:42:45.080 Okay, but you got.

01:42:45.720 The guy was trying to bash me for like being a Trump supporter, but like not backing the

01:42:51.300 blue.

01:42:52.240 Like, so he's just trying to make me look bad.

01:42:53.340 So you got arrested, but the charges were dropped.

01:42:56.120 Is that correct?

01:42:56.620 Mm-hmm.

01:42:57.080 Okay.

01:42:57.740 All right.

01:42:58.960 Go ahead.

01:42:59.620 To finish my thought, it sounds like, you know, what, what, Q and maybe what Brian you're

01:43:02.880 saying also is that monogamy isn't just, you know, a penis inside a vagina, but it's

01:43:07.860 also who you're stimulating sexually, visually.

01:43:10.580 So it sounds like the argument that you guys are making is that if you're stimulating other

01:43:14.260 people sexually, then that in itself is not monogamous.

01:43:18.240 That's actually a very good point.

01:43:19.480 Even the bio.

01:43:20.120 Even the bio on the only fans, your dick will explode.

01:43:22.640 You're also not.

01:43:23.160 That's.

01:43:24.220 That's almost cheating, right?

01:43:25.960 Like if you have a boyfriend and then imagine seeing your boyfriend.

01:43:28.500 Making another dude's dick.

01:43:29.540 It depends.

01:43:30.380 Like what have you been doing all day?

01:43:31.500 Making dicks explode.

01:43:32.700 It just depends.

01:43:33.720 Like my ex didn't have any problem with my only fans.

01:43:36.900 I think he liked my only fans more than I liked it.

01:43:40.500 So, but Christy, if you consider yourself to be conservative, but you still have an only

01:43:45.120 fans and you're really worried about, well, I'm monogamous because I'm only having sex

01:43:48.740 with my boyfriend, all these different types of things.

01:43:50.520 And you promote the idea of conserving family and all of that.

01:43:54.120 Don't you think that the content you're putting out has the potential to destroy other marriages

01:43:59.340 and other families?

01:44:00.800 There are probably a lot of married men that are subbing to your content.

01:44:04.760 Yeah, but that's not.

01:44:07.580 But you don't care because you're getting money at the end of the day.

01:44:10.140 The thing is, it's just like if people are going to do what, what they want to do, they're

01:44:14.460 going to watch whatever they're going to do.

01:44:16.700 Like I can't control their actions.

01:44:18.720 So I understand why, like your point.

01:44:22.020 But like I said last time, I'm like, it's not my fault you've ate the apple.

01:44:25.840 Like I can't control people's actions.

01:44:28.300 You know what I mean?

01:44:28.940 Like you can't control their actions, but you're also condoning their behavior of just subscribing

01:44:32.700 to your own fans.

01:44:33.400 And you're okay with being able to.

01:44:34.080 People sell weed shit all the time.

01:44:36.040 People sell like protein powders to someone who's not going to the gym.

01:44:38.960 They're still spending that money.

01:44:40.300 Like does it matter that she's selling something?

01:44:43.220 Like even if it is herself.

01:44:44.520 It's just the selling it period.

01:44:46.420 Yeah, but.

01:44:46.940 At the end of the day, it's just, yeah.

01:44:47.980 So is it supposed to be free on Pornhub?

01:44:49.920 I'm confused.

01:44:50.740 No, it's just exposing yourself and give it at all.

01:44:54.560 Make people work for it.

01:44:55.840 Buy your dinners because it's the same thing, right?

01:44:58.080 But I want to bring up.

01:44:59.900 Oh, shit.

01:45:01.240 Flan Life.

01:45:02.000 Thank you very much.

01:45:03.060 Oh, wow.

01:45:03.400 Everyone's getting in on the.

01:45:04.640 Thank you, Flan Life.

01:45:05.860 Good to see you.

01:45:06.480 Good to see you in the chat.

01:45:07.360 Thank you.

01:45:08.380 I think that just the big thing is, and just the way you've described it, like you may

01:45:12.940 very well in all other aspects and all other realms, you might very well fit into like

01:45:18.860 your traditional in terms of your politics, in terms of how you want to raise your family,

01:45:23.600 perhaps some of your other values, but in this specific instance, I think it's like you

01:45:30.380 just, I think the fact that you are engaged in doing adult content precludes you from identifying

01:45:38.440 as someone who's traditional.

01:45:42.320 Yeah, that's making a lot of people very mad.

01:45:46.540 That you're identifying as.

01:45:48.100 I don't think it's, I don't think it's making us mad.

01:45:53.040 We're just trying to get to the bottom.

01:45:54.440 Oh, no, not you.

01:45:55.060 No, no, no, no.

01:45:55.580 I mean, like in general, I think we're just trying to get to the bottom of how you're viewing

01:45:59.800 it.

01:46:00.660 Will you admit that you are in this particular dimension when it comes to, you know, producing

01:46:07.120 this sort of content that you have, you're not traditional, I don't know what the synonym

01:46:12.360 would be of tradition.

01:46:13.320 I don't have a traditional job.

01:46:14.880 Would you, no, no, no, would you acknowledge that you're progressive in this particular

01:46:20.100 realm?

01:46:20.800 Is that the synonym of traditional progressive?

01:46:22.760 In that one situation, that's like the only thing that you could say would be non-traditional.

01:46:28.740 Okay, so you would.

01:46:29.720 That would be the one, like me having an OnlyFans might be a non-traditional job, but the way

01:46:35.880 I think every single other part of it is very traditional.

01:46:39.500 But it's the ratio.

01:46:41.100 Because like, that's a really heavy.

01:46:42.540 Yeah, but there's so many traditional things.

01:46:45.240 And then it's out of ones.

01:46:46.120 So let's say it's a scale.

01:46:47.180 So it's a huge ratio of the traditional part.

01:46:49.900 Yeah, here's, let's say there's a scale of being a traditional person.

01:46:53.220 And then you have to like drop various factors for the scale to reach a threshold of being

01:46:58.620 considered traditional.

01:46:59.780 And then you have on the other side of non-traditional.

01:47:02.320 I only have one non-traditional.

01:47:03.840 Yeah, but that's like a huge weight on the non-traditional side.

01:47:07.320 Yeah, that's probably weighted the most.

01:47:08.520 Let's let this come through.

01:47:09.880 Yo, Brando.

01:47:10.540 Thank you.

01:47:11.260 Oh, my God, bro.

01:47:20.980 Who is Brando?

01:47:21.520 Brian knows what I know.

01:47:22.500 I think it's her ex.

01:47:23.420 I think it's her ex.

01:47:25.640 Oh, rip.

01:47:27.220 Madison is not here.

01:47:29.040 But, Brando, I will let you know that you said hi.

01:47:32.560 Do you have a response to him?

01:47:33.620 Yeah, he's acting like I'm in hiding.

01:47:35.980 First of all, I don't have any like charges or anything against me.

01:47:40.040 There's no like pending anything against me.

01:47:42.700 I wish that my socials didn't get deleted.

01:47:45.660 My first Instagram that I love that I had the most engagement with got deleted from Instagram

01:47:52.000 because I went on a political rant about how they're indoctrinating children in schools.

01:47:57.400 And I would trust that.

01:47:58.800 And they're trying to transform the children.

01:48:01.020 And that's when my Instagram got deleted.

01:48:03.120 I did not like delete it on purpose.

01:48:05.120 I really actually want to get it back.

01:48:07.460 But my hair used to be dark.

01:48:11.240 Yeah, I had really, really blonde hair.

01:48:13.540 And then I went dark.

01:48:14.780 And then I went back to being really blonde.

01:48:17.440 That's just because I felt like changing my hair color, though.

01:48:23.120 Okay.

01:48:23.740 Let me get a couple chats in here.

01:48:25.660 You definitely don't know the truth.

01:48:28.680 You just think you do.

01:48:30.720 Nick, did you get the orange one from Emmanuel?

01:48:33.440 I was going to ask you about that one.

01:48:34.900 Oh, is it sus?

01:48:36.860 What?

01:48:38.100 Wait.

01:48:38.820 Is it?

01:48:45.480 It's.

01:48:46.260 That's okay.

01:48:47.520 Here, let me read a couple.

01:48:49.000 All right.

01:48:49.280 We have Puffy Vegas.

01:48:51.220 He's back.

01:48:51.720 I'm going to say this one more time.

01:48:53.860 All women cheat.

01:48:56.200 I've never cheated in my life.

01:48:57.480 All women cheat.

01:48:58.480 According to Puffy Vegas.

01:49:00.540 All women.

01:49:01.500 I've never cheated.

01:49:02.060 Plus, you might just need to go to therapy and talk about it.

01:49:05.680 Because you're not picking the right woman.

01:49:09.300 So, Madison, Brandon, wanted to say hi to you.

01:49:14.120 Oh, it's because I said hi to him after the last chat he said.

01:49:16.520 Okay, yeah.

01:49:17.080 Hi, Brandon.

01:49:17.900 He sent in a TTS while you're gone.

01:49:19.520 Thank you, Brandon.

01:49:20.120 Appreciate it, man.

01:49:20.700 Good to see you, Brandon, in the chat.

01:49:22.620 Puffy, I think it's just because you're in Las Vegas and a lot of the women there in

01:49:27.420 your scene just maybe are loose and very, very promiscuous.

01:49:32.460 So, maybe all the girls that you're meeting.

01:49:33.960 Are they promiscuous in Vegas?

01:49:37.400 You asked me.

01:49:39.280 Oh, okay.

01:49:39.740 All right.

01:49:41.040 All right.

01:49:41.700 Well, there you have it, Puffy.

01:49:42.720 People were getting mad at me because, or at least one person really was, because I

01:49:47.280 said people in rural areas didn't have, like, they weren't going out the way you go out

01:49:52.880 in Vegas and that changes the ratios.

01:49:55.000 But, like, that, like, is actually what I was saying.

01:49:57.560 Like, yes.

01:49:58.000 Like, if you're in, like, Vegas or Miami or, like, a certain city.

01:50:02.500 Like, hot cities.

01:50:03.420 Yeah.

01:50:03.580 Rachel Fallin donated $99.

01:50:05.640 Hold on just a sec.

01:50:05.860 I don't do off and already have a hard time dating.

01:50:10.300 If I had an off, I'm giving up the one thing that could secure a future family for me.

01:50:15.480 How old are you, Rachel?

01:50:17.360 Yo, Rachel.

01:50:18.380 Uh, this name sounds familiar.

01:50:20.480 I don't know if you DM'd us asking to be on the show.

01:50:22.840 Or, wait, has she been on the show?

01:50:24.480 Wait, Rachel?

01:50:26.100 I don't know, but, hey, Rachel, thank you for the TTS.

01:50:28.000 Appreciate it.

01:50:28.500 I don't have a hard time dating, so I don't really know what to tell you about that.

01:50:35.860 You don't have a hard time dating?

01:50:37.320 I actually, can I?

01:50:38.740 Yeah, I'm engaged.

01:50:39.720 She's engaged.

01:50:41.080 But, to be honest with you, like, first of all, my OnlyFans, like, took off, like, as an accident.

01:50:46.820 It was kind of like a social experiment.

01:50:48.460 I was selling bikini pictures for $100.

01:50:52.420 A hundred?

01:50:53.500 Yeah.

01:50:53.780 Bikini?

01:50:54.420 Yeah.

01:50:55.200 That's how it started.

01:50:56.740 And then things escalated, but.

01:50:59.480 What were you doing in these bikini pictures?

01:51:01.080 Did you have your butthole hanging out with something?

01:51:02.660 No, I swear to God, that's how.

01:51:04.640 Who's buying $100 for that?

01:51:06.320 That's how it started.

01:51:06.980 That's how it started.

01:51:08.380 And I used to have, like, my old, this is why I wish I had my old Instagram account,

01:51:14.560 because over the years from, like, going to school and moving around so much and doing

01:51:19.400 different careers, I had, like, being a bartender, I had so many guys follow my Instagram that

01:51:26.040 wanted to get with me that as soon as I dropped my OnlyFans, they all went in there, and then

01:51:31.440 they were telling me how, like, one fan told me he went to college with me, and I didn't,

01:51:37.660 like, I know who, I know his name, and I know the fraternity he's in, but I don't remember,

01:51:43.720 like, seeing him in person or, like, who he, like, what he looks like, but he told me

01:51:47.980 that he would always go out to the bars and jerk off to my Facebook page, which Facebook

01:51:53.220 pictures are horrible.

01:51:54.840 Go out to the bars and do it.

01:51:56.260 This is in 2010, 2011.

01:51:59.060 You can at least stand outside your window.

01:52:00.980 So, like, yeah, people have been jerking off to me for free on Facebook.

01:52:06.720 You should have a T-shirt.

01:52:07.740 You should have a T-shirt.

01:52:08.680 Like, I'm just now making money off of it.

01:52:11.060 I'm sure they're doing it for free on my Instagram, too, but the Facebook pictures thing, I think,

01:52:16.400 are nuts, because that's, like, group photos.

01:52:18.880 Okay.

01:52:19.140 All right.

01:52:19.580 Boost your ego?

01:52:20.840 No, it didn't boost my ego, which is why I made a lot of money really fast and why I escalated.

01:52:26.260 I've subscribed to probably about 10 OnlyFans accounts with my wife.

01:52:30.200 No, no, no, no, no, because they're people we know, and we just, I've reviewed it on

01:52:35.000 my YouTube channel, and it's hilarious to watch these people just open their legs on

01:52:39.800 camera, and you know them.

01:52:40.760 Okay, but this is what I'm talking about.

01:52:42.440 This is why I could never, I mean, there's a million reasons why I would never do OnlyFans,

01:52:45.700 but I could not get past the idea that people I know in real life, my neighbor, my step-parent

01:52:52.580 or whatever, are making accounts and watching me.

01:52:55.000 And I feel like, wasn't it a girl in Australia?

01:52:57.580 This just happened.

01:52:58.860 This girl had an OnlyFans, and then she found out that her step-dad was, like, her biggest

01:53:02.480 sub.

01:53:02.940 Yes, yes, yes.

01:53:03.320 And paying thousands of dollars a month, and then she figured it out.

01:53:07.100 That freaks me out.

01:53:08.160 Yeah, that went viral on TikTok about a month or so ago, and it was.

01:53:11.160 It was crazy.

01:53:11.700 I'm just not, I'm not freaked out about that.

01:53:13.380 Hold on just a sec, hold on.

01:53:14.500 Raspy looks and acts like a dollar tree Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:53:19.640 Adultery.

01:53:20.620 Do you know, I assume you know who that is.

01:53:22.380 Yeah, okay.

01:53:23.340 And MTG.

01:53:25.720 Do you want to say anything back to fan life?

01:53:27.900 I don't really have, like, a comment back to that.

01:53:31.620 Okay.

01:53:32.140 All right.

01:53:32.360 Let me get a couple of the chats here.

01:53:33.700 So we have, did we do this one from, I do the same thing channel, I have Fitbit reviews.

01:53:38.520 This guy has got to save his money.

01:53:40.480 Can I say something, though?

01:53:42.220 Like, I have a lot of, do you mind if I say something?

01:53:45.400 Okay, sure.

01:53:45.680 I have a lot of fans that would also consider themselves conservatives.

01:53:51.580 Are they fans, though?

01:53:52.400 Yeah, I was just about to say, they're not fans.

01:53:54.820 If they, like, my, people who come to my comedy shows, right, they're fans.

01:53:58.020 They want to get photos, they want to get merch, all that type of stuff.

01:54:00.740 A little closer, I'm sorry.

01:54:01.660 They want to get merch, all that type of stuff.

01:54:03.440 They watch all the videos and that type of stuff.

01:54:04.900 But after these guys blow their load, do they care about you still?

01:54:07.980 Nope.

01:54:08.200 Yeah, like, this is the thing that people don't understand on my OnlyFans.

01:54:12.440 And it's a lot different from the, like, couple that I was on with last time.

01:54:17.700 Like, my OnlyFans, like, we have, we're actually, like, talking about a lot of things.

01:54:22.460 Like, we're, like, connecting.

01:54:23.980 What?

01:54:24.180 We're not always just talking about sexual things at all.

01:54:27.920 Like, we're actually, we talk about politics.

01:54:29.680 I talk about politics with them all the time.

01:54:31.580 My bio also says Patriot.

01:54:33.500 But, and a lot of the fans I've gotten are because they're, like, oh my god, finally,

01:54:39.720 like, a conservative girl.

01:54:41.680 Because, like, so many girls are, like, yeah, no, so many girls these days are, like, liberals.

01:54:48.220 So, yeah.

01:54:48.440 It's smart what you're doing.

01:54:49.460 Like, it's good marketing.

01:54:50.480 Because these guys are, like, finally, like, I've got a MAGA girl I can jerk off over.

01:54:54.800 Like, it's smart.

01:54:55.560 Yeah, you understand that that's a fantasy.

01:54:57.500 Because they, they identify as conservative, too, so.

01:55:02.180 That's the thing.

01:55:02.660 You could also consider yourself conservative, but you may not be.

01:55:06.680 So, the argument is, like, I should be saying I'm Republican and not conservative.

01:55:12.700 Do you need to say it?

01:55:13.560 Like, who cares?

01:55:14.540 Exactly.

01:55:14.940 I don't really care.

01:55:16.160 I mean, just off the bat, everyone's not going to consider you conservative.

01:55:19.740 I'm not sure if people don't consider me conservative, but I, um.

01:55:24.220 But you are.

01:55:24.760 But I, yeah.

01:55:26.000 I mean, I don't care if they, like, believe.

01:55:27.340 You are, but you're not.

01:55:28.400 I don't care if they believe what's in my heart.

01:55:30.980 But I definitely don't want to have anything to do with being, like, a leftist, a moderate.

01:55:38.160 Like, I am a complete Republican.

01:55:41.360 No, no, no.

01:55:41.720 Nobody's saying go to the left.

01:55:44.020 Right, nobody's saying go to the left, but it's their thing.

01:55:47.120 You're woke, I think.

01:55:48.540 Yeah, you're woke.

01:55:49.040 You're woke, you're woke.

01:55:50.560 Stick a maggot hat in your ass or you are woke, love.

01:55:53.480 You are woke.

01:55:54.200 Yes, I will.

01:55:55.380 I don't, I don't do, like, the ass stuff.

01:55:57.760 Oh, thank you for clarifying.

01:55:58.320 So you're missing out on such a huge portion of the market.

01:56:00.740 Oh, that's where you draw the line.

01:56:02.520 Yeah.

01:56:03.540 Pussy.

01:56:04.000 Of course not.

01:56:06.200 I pull out.

01:56:07.600 Okay.

01:56:08.600 Um.

01:56:09.560 So, we got some chats here.

01:56:10.980 We got some more from Puffy Vegas.

01:56:12.820 Oh, my goodness.

01:56:13.200 He said, never met a faithful woman.

01:56:15.880 I'm going to say this one more time.

01:56:16.900 All women cheat.

01:56:18.000 I do.

01:56:18.140 He says, oh, I already, uh, Fitbit reviews.

01:56:20.400 Okay, we have the cast man, 777.

01:56:22.620 Hey, thank you, man.

01:56:23.600 Trump is not actually a conservative.

01:56:25.640 He was actually a populist moderate.

01:56:27.760 This is not necessarily a bad thing.

01:56:30.160 However, support for Trump can't be used as a litmus test for being conservative.

01:56:35.180 Getting digged down with a MAGA hat is not conservative.

01:56:38.940 Not well, who he donated $123.

01:56:40.640 Oh, not moot.

01:56:41.140 Thank you, man.

01:56:41.980 Thank you.

01:56:42.460 It's not ideal, but someone's gonna do it.

01:56:45.540 The extra thing she gets is living the easy life since it's possible at all.

01:56:50.220 Nobody wants to see Christy be the grasshopper.

01:56:53.280 Don't gang up on the girl, too.

01:56:55.460 She's a guest.

01:56:56.520 And also, don't be jealous of the easy life.

01:56:59.960 Thank you.

01:57:00.960 Wait, what?

01:57:01.860 I agree.

01:57:02.600 I completely agree.

01:57:02.880 They're telling us to stop messing with her.

01:57:04.740 She's donking up on the line.

01:57:05.460 And not to be jealous that my life is easier than other people's.

01:57:09.500 Thank you.

01:57:10.220 All right, there you have it.

01:57:11.160 We have Puffy Vegas once again.

01:57:12.540 Leave the blonde girl alone.

01:57:13.720 If this is her life, let it be in life.

01:57:16.680 I'm sick of you acting like I'm just sick of it.

01:57:19.100 Okay, Puffy Vegas.

01:57:20.660 I just can't believe little old me is so controversial.

01:57:25.680 I don't think you're controversial at all.

01:57:27.600 It's just that one thing.

01:57:28.720 I get it.

01:57:29.080 It's just that one little thing.

01:57:29.780 You say that you're a traditional person.

01:57:32.060 That's like saying you don't like gay people, but then you suck one dick a day.

01:57:35.480 You're not quite there.

01:57:37.040 You've got to commit to the beard.

01:57:38.240 You know what, though?

01:57:38.880 There are people who say that they can suck dick and not be gay.

01:57:44.340 It's a thing, apparently.

01:57:45.140 You're not gay for sucking my...

01:57:46.820 What's that from Harold and Kumar?

01:57:48.460 You're gay for sucking my dick.

01:57:50.980 I saw that.

01:57:51.620 Nothing's gay.

01:57:52.460 There's a lot of Trump, Republican, OnlyFans girls.

01:57:57.380 There's a whole thing on Reddit.

01:57:59.560 Is it like a fetish?

01:58:00.860 Oh, you know what is actually a fetish?

01:58:03.320 That I get a lot of liberal men wanting to pay me to degrade them.

01:58:11.520 They don't actually even want pictures or videos of me.

01:58:14.160 They just want to pay the Republican girl to degrade them for being like a pussy little

01:58:20.100 bitch.

01:58:20.980 Based.

01:58:21.600 So that is actually a fetish thing.

01:58:24.300 Hey, I can do that also without naked pictures.

01:58:27.440 I would do that for free, but they're not paying for the naked pictures.

01:58:31.320 They're paying for the...

01:58:32.380 Yeah, they have a degradation kink.

01:58:33.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:58:35.140 Okay.

01:58:35.680 I would do that for free if they commented on my Instagram.

01:58:39.040 Oh, okay.

01:58:39.520 Well, there you go.

01:58:40.060 Okay.

01:58:40.220 Now you're going to get a whole bunch of people going to be degraded.

01:58:42.580 I'm not paying for it no more.

01:58:43.880 All right.

01:58:44.120 We have Virgin Slayer, raspy, traditional sex worker.

01:58:46.940 Please steal men the argument against doing OnlyFans.

01:58:50.760 Wait.

01:58:51.180 Who do you want to steal men?

01:58:53.120 You want Kristen to steal men?

01:58:55.580 Chrissy.

01:58:56.160 Yeah.

01:58:56.460 Oh, sorry.

01:58:57.040 Chrissy?

01:58:57.800 Chrissy.

01:58:58.500 Oh, Chrissy.

01:58:59.160 Excuse me.

01:59:00.440 You want us to steal men, Virgin Slayer?

01:59:03.540 I think her.

01:59:03.820 I'm kind of confused.

01:59:04.940 Yeah.

01:59:05.160 He's directing it towards raspy.

01:59:06.300 The argument against...

01:59:07.220 He wants to make an argument.

01:59:11.080 He wants you to argue for the other side, which is, why do you think people shouldn't

01:59:18.440 do OnlyFans?

01:59:19.460 What's wrong with OnlyFans?

01:59:21.380 I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

01:59:23.300 There's nothing.

01:59:23.660 Or I wouldn't be doing it.

01:59:24.860 So you don't acknowledge that there's, you don't think there's any detriment when it

01:59:31.280 comes to having these kinds of photos out there, when it comes to your future husband,

01:59:36.400 to your kids?

01:59:37.440 Zero detriment.

01:59:38.180 I actually, no, because, but I actually did, like, when my OnlyFans was super, super G-rated

01:59:44.860 with just bikini and lingerie pictures, when I decided to, like, take it further, I actually

01:59:52.340 thought it was going to negatively impact my dating life, where I thought, like, that

01:59:57.320 could have been an option, but I decided to go through with it anyway, and it has not

02:00:03.560 hurt my dating life.

02:00:05.800 Yeah, but you've only experienced doing OnlyFans in the present.

02:00:09.400 Like, you have no idea, once you do have kids and stuff, how that could affect them.

02:00:12.900 I mean, look at Britney Spears' kids.

02:00:14.480 They want nothing to do with her, because they're so embarrassed by her nudes and stuff she keeps

02:00:18.440 posting on Instagram.

02:00:19.540 Yeah, I mean, no one can predict the future at this table, I don't think, but I do think

02:00:23.600 it will be, I know you don't want it to be normalized, and I'm not saying it should

02:00:28.760 be, it's just what is going to happen, because there are so many content creators,

02:00:35.020 that, like, we're going to have kids, and it's going to be a normal job, it just is.

02:00:42.300 And this is why men need to refuse to date and marry women who do OnlyFans.

02:00:48.840 So if your kid, say, if your daughter, like, came up to you and asked to do OnlyFans, you

02:00:52.900 wouldn't warn anything, you wouldn't warn her about anything.

02:00:56.400 I'm not saying I wouldn't warn her of anything, I would tell her.

02:00:59.440 Well, I guess that's what we're asking, like, what's the downtrodden about?

02:01:01.200 But I would have not let her do it if that's what she wanted to do.

02:01:05.240 I mean, I believe in freedom, so just be who you are, do what you want to do.

02:01:09.560 Would you be cool with your mom starting in OnlyFans?

02:01:13.360 I mean, she wouldn't, but that's fine.

02:01:15.260 I'd be fine with my sister starting in OnlyFans.

02:01:17.760 Your sister did?

02:01:18.780 No, but I'd be fine if she wanted to, she doesn't want to.

02:01:21.360 You'd be cool with your mom, like, doing bukkakis and shit?

02:01:23.840 I'd be fine with anyone doing it.

02:01:25.380 You'd be fine with your mom doing bukkakis?

02:01:26.900 Me and my sister have a joke about bukkakis.

02:01:29.260 What the fuck?

02:01:31.160 Okay.

02:01:31.560 I've never participated in one, and I never will participate in one.

02:01:35.420 Okay.

02:01:35.960 What about your mom?

02:01:36.380 But you never can predict the future.

02:01:37.700 I don't know if she's participated.

02:01:39.700 Never say never.

02:01:40.880 Never say never.

02:01:40.920 I'm going to say she has not.

02:01:42.760 All right.

02:01:43.220 Okay.

02:01:43.520 We have Lionel.

02:01:44.260 I mean, like, if you want to do a bukkake.

02:01:45.380 Here, we'll move on.

02:01:46.160 It would explain the raspy voice.

02:01:48.520 The bukkake.

02:01:49.180 Yeah.

02:01:49.420 But I didn't know you, like, really swallowed in a bukkake.

02:01:53.120 I thought you were more just, like...

02:01:53.860 Well, if you're having a go, you'll swallow.

02:01:55.580 I thought it was kind of on you.

02:01:57.840 Professional swallow.

02:01:59.040 I've never done one, though.

02:01:59.980 Amateurs, they just cop it on the face.

02:02:01.560 I don't know.

02:02:01.920 Like a loser.

02:02:02.960 I don't know how to go.

02:02:03.640 I really thought you just kind of got drenched in it.

02:02:06.420 I didn't think you actually, like, swallowed.

02:02:09.060 Because there's so much at one time, and you're in the middle.

02:02:11.980 You're very far away to actually swallow it.

02:02:13.600 What do you do in a buffet?

02:02:14.600 Do you just chew it?

02:02:15.280 No.

02:02:15.600 You swallow it.

02:02:16.560 Like a real woman.

02:02:17.640 You're very far away, though.

02:02:18.500 So, traditionally...

02:02:19.500 I don't think anyone on this table is on a bukkake.

02:02:22.960 You don't know me at all.

02:02:24.660 I don't understand you saying that you want to homeschool your kids and stuff because you're

02:02:28.340 worried about them getting indoctrinated at school.

02:02:30.720 You're obviously worried about the well-being of children, yet the content that you're putting

02:02:34.940 out on the internet is so harmful, and there could be underage kids that are subbing to

02:02:38.820 your content.

02:02:39.620 I don't know if she is worried about the well-being of children.

02:02:41.580 She's wearing them on her face.

02:02:43.140 I am.

02:02:43.580 Well, we're not going to talk about that.

02:02:46.800 We do have Lionel Melendez here.

02:02:50.240 Don't listen to the people that say you aren't Republican because you do OF.

02:02:53.420 Well, that's not what we're saying.

02:02:54.800 Those are the extreme incels of the right or the super-closed-minded.

02:02:58.680 As to adult content with your partner, I'd say it's okay as long as it's not a partner

02:03:04.320 every other month.

02:03:05.480 That'll make you a 3-0-foe.

02:03:07.920 I agree.

02:03:09.680 I disagree with Mr. Lionel Melendez.

02:03:14.820 I completely agree.

02:03:16.900 That's exactly what I think, too.

02:03:20.760 So, do you want to be a housewife?

02:03:22.400 You don't want to work.

02:03:23.660 You just want to stay at home.

02:03:24.520 Well, I want to be a housewife, but I'll have my OnlyFans, so technically...

02:03:27.680 So, you're going to have your OnlyFans for the rest of your life?

02:03:31.060 Probably, yeah.

02:03:31.740 So, your pussy's wrinkled.

02:03:32.700 Fuck yeah, granny born.

02:03:33.600 It's bringing in so much...

02:03:34.900 Like, why would I stop something from bringing in revenue?

02:03:37.580 Exactly.

02:03:38.080 So, that's what I'm...

02:03:38.820 It doesn't really make sense not to...

02:03:40.240 So, that's what I'm saying.

02:03:41.220 So, your daughter is going to be at home, homeschooled, on Zoom with her little...

02:03:45.440 her teacher, but you're going to be getting fucked.

02:03:48.360 In the next room.

02:03:49.320 In the next room.

02:03:50.260 By your husband.

02:03:51.060 But do you not understand how that is detrimental to your daughter?

02:03:53.760 A daughter is not supposed to see a woman and their mom and dad fucking.

02:03:58.460 A girl is not supposed to see...

02:03:59.820 No children.

02:04:00.780 That could also lead to, like, resentment.

02:04:02.980 But she can.

02:04:03.780 She can see it.

02:04:04.720 She can go on the internet.

02:04:06.180 She can go on the internet.

02:04:07.700 But she can go on the internet and see her mom and dad fucking.

02:04:12.480 Or even if it's not her, people...

02:04:14.820 Like, kids...

02:04:15.540 Kids are mean.

02:04:16.280 Like, they're going to send it to...

02:04:17.560 They're going to send it to her.

02:04:18.740 They're going to send it to her son.

02:04:19.800 They're going to be like, oh, is this your mom?

02:04:21.240 I'm going to teach my kids...

02:04:24.400 Close their eyes when the photos come on.

02:04:26.100 I do.

02:04:26.460 I'm literally going to teach my kids to be entrepreneurial and to do whatever they want.

02:04:30.560 But that doesn't stop the internet.

02:04:31.700 The entrepreneur probably doesn't...

02:04:32.080 Everyone has freedom to do what they want.

02:04:33.820 No, but we're not telling you to stop.

02:04:36.640 We're trying to get you to be like, okay...

02:04:38.680 I know you're trying to get me to say...

02:04:40.680 Stop it.

02:04:41.740 My daughter is going to have a horrible life, but I don't think...

02:04:44.540 No, we're not saying horrible life.

02:04:46.340 We're telling you, think about the kids' aspect, like the perspective of a kid.

02:04:53.580 You may be like, oh, they're going to have a good life.

02:04:55.740 They're going to live up, go and happy.

02:04:57.260 They're going to get to buy whatever they want.

02:04:58.540 They're going to be able to do whatever they want.

02:05:00.060 We're going to be on Abu Dhabi every other Christmas.

02:05:03.920 But what I'm saying is...

02:05:05.280 That's so specific.

02:05:06.240 What I'm saying is, like, kids are like emotional wrecks.

02:05:13.380 They're not going to see it how you're seeing it.

02:05:15.240 They're going to be like, oh, my mom is out here doing this.

02:05:17.580 And then she's going to do that at a young age.

02:05:18.700 She's going to think it's okay.

02:05:19.720 She's going to think it's okay.

02:05:20.660 She's going to grow up.

02:05:21.820 It's going to be somebody who tells...

02:05:23.680 Because she might not have thick skin like you.

02:05:26.060 Like, you have very thick skin.

02:05:27.320 Your daughter might not have thick skin.

02:05:29.240 What people may say might get to her.

02:05:31.000 She might get depressed.

02:05:31.820 She might, you know, end up having problems.

02:05:34.340 But you don't know that.

02:05:36.240 You don't predict the future.

02:05:36.980 I feel like my mom raised me real good.

02:05:39.220 But what my mom expected me to grow up as is not how I did.

02:05:42.300 Hold on, just a sec.

02:05:43.960 Hey, Rachel, thank you.

02:05:44.680 What would you do as a housewife if you don't want to cook or clean?

02:05:48.200 I do want to cook or clean.

02:05:48.920 Isn't that what a housewife is?

02:05:50.520 A person that takes care of the house and home living?

02:05:54.000 I literally said I wanted to cook and clean.

02:05:56.980 Like, I literally said that.

02:05:57.740 Yeah, but you put in point to something.

02:05:59.140 I don't know if you answered this totally.

02:06:01.120 But let's say your husband was very wealthy.

02:06:04.120 He can provide for you don't have to work.

02:06:07.600 I don't know.

02:06:08.200 He makes a million dollars a year, right?

02:06:10.040 That's not a lot of money.

02:06:12.180 Get fucked.

02:06:12.580 What?

02:06:14.240 That's a ridiculous thing anyone's ever said.

02:06:16.500 You do.

02:06:16.940 Okay.

02:06:17.380 I don't think that's like that.

02:06:18.280 How much?

02:06:18.600 Well, just curious.

02:06:19.260 How much do you make from?

02:06:20.220 I mean, I'm not going to say how much I make, but I'm like, why?

02:06:22.160 Why?

02:06:23.020 You just said a million dollars is not a lot.

02:06:24.820 So if you make more than a million dollars, you should be out here saying, yeah, I make

02:06:27.280 more than a fucking million dollars.

02:06:28.740 But why I'm saying that is because my stepdad makes way more money than that.

02:06:33.720 Your stepdad?

02:06:34.280 But you're 33.

02:06:35.500 Yeah, so I just like don't make a million dollars.

02:06:36.360 Why are you relying on your stepdad?

02:06:38.720 I'm not relying on my stepdad.

02:06:40.380 But wait, we're talking about your money.

02:06:42.280 Because I can't like reveal certain things about my OnlyFans.

02:06:45.360 Well, don't tell us how much you make a ye.

02:06:46.840 How much you make like a month.

02:06:48.140 Like a range.

02:06:48.900 I don't think.

02:06:49.960 Range.

02:06:50.300 I thought making two million dollars a year was normal for people.

02:06:53.920 Yeah, it's not.

02:06:54.680 No, it is normal.

02:06:55.560 It wasn't.

02:06:56.140 And if you're not making two million dollars a year, you're an absolute loser.

02:06:59.180 I'm talking about all of you fucking losers.

02:07:01.480 What's the average salary a man makes a year?

02:07:04.340 80K?

02:07:05.480 No, it's less than that.

02:07:07.080 It's 40 something.

02:07:08.460 Yeah, and us high value people, we make two million, right?

02:07:12.140 Hold on.

02:07:12.800 You think most people make two million?

02:07:17.800 I used to.

02:07:18.480 I found this out like kind of.

02:07:20.400 What, did you have a brain injury?

02:07:22.040 Why?

02:07:22.560 Why did you think that?

02:07:23.320 I didn't think it was that weird from the area I grew up.

02:07:26.140 Where did you grow up?

02:07:27.380 Abu Dhabi?

02:07:28.280 New Jersey.

02:07:30.580 Okay.

02:07:32.560 What's happening in New Jersey?

02:07:34.120 Bask in New Jersey.

02:07:35.160 I just don't think it was that weird.

02:07:37.280 Wait, can you give us a range?

02:07:39.980 A range like do you make five figures a month?

02:07:42.560 I'm not going to give any range about anything.

02:07:44.640 Six figures a month?

02:07:45.400 I'm not going to.

02:07:45.800 But you'll put your pussy on the internet?

02:07:47.160 How many subs do you have on your OnlyFans?

02:07:50.420 I can't say that either.

02:07:51.620 I was trying to trick you up.

02:07:52.300 Why?

02:07:53.460 Anyway, to go back and say that either.

02:07:55.020 To go back to Blue.

02:07:55.800 Let me just.

02:07:56.740 Okay.

02:07:57.220 So hold on.

02:08:00.020 You think someone making a million dollars a year is not enough?

02:08:04.520 Well, I mean, this is the thing.

02:08:07.200 I'm not saying it's not enough for me.

02:08:08.860 But when you're like, if someone, if you meet someone that's so, so wealthy, would you stop it?

02:08:15.080 And then you said a million.

02:08:16.320 I was like, oh, I don't think that's the wealthy person.

02:08:19.160 I mean, not saying you're not wealthy.

02:08:20.400 A millionaire is not a wealthy person.

02:08:21.920 I mean, I don't know.

02:08:22.500 I live in Miami.

02:08:23.360 Maybe things are like different.

02:08:24.880 I'm saying a million dollars a year.

02:08:26.020 That's enough in any city in the U.S. for you to, like, for you to be a stay-at-home wife and not have to work.

02:08:32.660 Okay.

02:08:33.040 In any city in the world.

02:08:34.160 So how about we take the million dollars thing away and just say if it was an extremely wealthy man, and I did answer this, but they didn't like the word.

02:08:43.460 I said considered.

02:08:44.500 Okay, $10 million a year.

02:08:45.760 I said I would consider if he wanted me to do it, and then people got mad that I said consider and not just a hard yes,

02:08:54.040 because you can't just give anything a hard yes without consideration first.

02:08:59.860 But, yeah.

02:09:00.660 But, I mean, if he wanted me to do it, I probably would get rid of it if that was a big deal to him.

02:09:06.920 That was, like, a make or break, and I was in love with him.

02:09:10.340 But, like, I have not.

02:09:13.040 You are addicted to the attention from OnlyFans.

02:09:15.820 I have literally not had any guy tell me that I would need to delete my OnlyFans.

02:09:21.880 Because no guy has wanted to marry you yet.

02:09:23.760 For real, for real.

02:09:25.660 Engage.

02:09:26.140 Where's the ring?

02:09:27.080 My ex-boyfriend wanted to marry me, and he loved that I was...

02:09:31.840 But how did that turn out?

02:09:32.980 Well, I broke up with him.

02:09:34.760 Yeah, fair enough.

02:09:35.720 So, but he wanted to make it work really, really bad.

02:09:38.380 Like, he thought...

02:09:39.260 So then why didn't you want to marry him?

02:09:40.960 Because I could just tell he wasn't my person.

02:09:43.140 Like, I'm not going to just marry just anyone.

02:09:45.860 Just, like, how we were saying it's very important to date someone and get to know them.

02:09:49.900 And, like, there's a thing called intuition.

02:09:52.680 And you either feel like someone is meant to be with you forever or that you don't.

02:09:57.080 And I'm not going to date someone just because I didn't feel like he was my forever.

02:10:02.320 And I don't want to get divorced.

02:10:03.720 We've done a lot of talking about what's going to...

02:10:05.380 Like, why don't you think about stopping it for your kids?

02:10:07.540 But it's too late.

02:10:08.800 So you've got to think about now how you're going to allow them to cope,

02:10:12.220 particularly if you have a young boy.

02:10:13.480 Like, I know we're talking about young girls and stuff.

02:10:15.480 But I think it's really damaging for a young boy to be shown at school.

02:10:18.860 To add to that, you also keep saying you're going to teach them to be entrepreneurs.

02:10:22.180 You can teach your kids anything, but they're going to do something else.

02:10:24.480 You can tell your kids to not do drugs, but they're still going to do drugs.

02:10:26.860 Right.

02:10:27.180 What would you say to your son if he's 15 years old and they say...

02:10:30.860 He comes up and says,

02:10:32.080 Listen, they keep showing me these photos of you and your ex-boyfriend from 2022.

02:10:36.500 I mean, this is the thing.

02:10:39.560 The way I'm going to raise them...

02:10:42.140 Oh, my God.

02:10:42.620 But what is the answer?

02:10:43.280 I don't understand.

02:10:44.240 I think all of this is the recipe for creating a serial killer.

02:10:47.620 That's what I'm imagining.

02:10:49.800 My mom growing up was doing it.

02:10:51.600 Yeah, but that's what you're imagining.

02:10:53.360 But he just asked you, what would you do?

02:10:54.920 There's porn stars with kids.

02:10:56.440 But how are the kids?

02:10:57.480 Right.

02:10:57.980 I don't know.

02:10:58.560 Should we bring them all on this podcast?

02:11:01.200 Should we interview them all?

02:11:02.040 But what would you say to your son if your son said,

02:11:04.240 I've seen this, I've seen...

02:11:05.180 He's going to have already known that before his kids.

02:11:07.420 But he's seeing it.

02:11:08.660 There's a difference between knowing and seeing it.

02:11:10.200 I feel like we've been sticking on this for a little too long.

02:11:12.940 Let's move on.

02:11:14.540 I nearly got it, bro.

02:11:15.900 We have Puffy Vegas, have the blonde girl rate me.

02:11:19.580 Puffy Vegas, have all the girls rate me.

02:11:21.800 One out of ten days.

02:11:23.120 Send a picture.

02:11:23.860 I think Puffy's off his head.

02:11:24.820 I think we got him.

02:11:26.260 Because I got him.

02:11:27.180 Yeah, Puffy just sent him.

02:11:28.160 Drumming.

02:11:28.980 Donations.

02:11:29.640 Puffy, you got to do...

02:11:30.840 Puffy, I've told you, man.

02:11:31.800 If you want an Instagram rating, you have to do it through Streamlabs.

02:11:35.480 He kills you every time.

02:11:35.880 Send one TTS through Streamlabs and we'll rate you, buddy.

02:11:39.460 Infinite Singularity.

02:11:40.560 Hey, thank you for the 50.

02:11:41.300 At this table, foresight eludes us all.

02:11:43.740 Except, of course, for our resident oracle, Alex.

02:11:48.960 Boom.

02:11:49.520 Resident oracle.

02:11:50.360 All right, we have Blackface Trudeau with 60 euro, I believe.

02:11:56.660 Was that euro?

02:11:57.580 Or no, wait.

02:11:58.640 That's euro, right?

02:11:59.880 Yeah, that's euro.

02:12:01.400 Gangsta Trump would say TRFK Jr. belongs to the streets.

02:12:05.200 What up, Brian?

02:12:05.740 Big fan.

02:12:06.260 Also, Carb Strong can suck vegan balls.

02:12:09.680 Isaac knows what I mean.

02:12:11.080 I do.

02:12:12.240 And congrats on two million plus subs, Isaac.

02:12:14.720 Congrats, man.

02:12:15.360 Not on OnlyFans.

02:12:16.060 I wish they were.

02:12:16.720 Do you have a response to Trudeau here?

02:12:18.580 Uh, Mr. Beefface Trudeau, thank you.

02:12:21.380 Uh, yeah, Joey Carb Strong is a vegan activist who, uh, spent a bit of time in jail for some

02:12:26.380 violent crimes and now he doesn't like me.

02:12:28.700 Uh, so yeah.

02:12:29.420 Oh, there's like a beef.

02:12:30.300 I have a lot of beef.

02:12:31.580 Yeah, great pun.

02:12:32.700 Uh, I have a lot of beef with the vegans.

02:12:34.320 I have, uh, anti-vegan merch.

02:12:36.740 I sell fuck vegan jerky.

02:12:38.460 Um, I've made a lot of money out of them.

02:12:40.600 You wouldn't convert vegans?

02:12:41.700 I'm sorry?

02:12:42.120 You wouldn't convert?

02:12:43.160 No.

02:12:43.800 No?

02:12:43.960 No, it's, it's cool.

02:12:45.000 You just love the beef.

02:12:46.100 Veganism is a cult.

02:12:47.300 And it's also fake.

02:12:48.820 Veganism is a cult, much like religion's a cult.

02:12:51.260 It's all a cult.

02:12:53.080 We're supposed to be eating meat.

02:12:55.260 Now.

02:12:56.060 True.

02:12:56.640 Stop talking about work.

02:13:00.300 I'm a huge carnivore.

02:13:02.180 I'm not into the vegan stuff.

02:13:04.100 I think, did that just.

02:13:05.320 Yeah.

02:13:05.880 No, no, I got it.

02:13:07.160 Like, I got the meat part.

02:13:08.520 I got it.

02:13:09.240 Okay.

02:13:09.540 Penis.

02:13:09.900 But I actually was just like, I like that you're so against veganism.

02:13:13.940 Yeah.

02:13:14.200 I built my, I built the start of my channel on anti-vegans and anti-cycler stuff.

02:13:17.960 Is PETA after you?

02:13:18.760 Yeah.

02:13:19.080 Yeah.

02:13:19.380 PETA doesn't like me either.

02:13:20.500 They block me.

02:13:21.440 It's, um.

02:13:22.160 I've been trying to get them to hate me.

02:13:23.800 It's easy.

02:13:24.460 I've been, I've been trying to get them to hate me.

02:13:25.820 Just keep going.

02:13:27.000 Just don't stop.

02:13:28.400 Just keep attacking.

02:13:29.100 They're crazy.

02:13:29.920 It's fan.

02:13:30.240 It's fantastic.

02:13:30.920 They're very easy people to annoy.

02:13:32.400 Wait, did I, and I've seen quite a few of your videos.

02:13:34.420 Did you ever do a video where you went to like a vegan establishment and you were eating

02:13:39.640 like meat in front of them?

02:13:41.940 No, I, I, I, I did, um, I, I can't remember.

02:13:46.100 This is because like over the last five years, I've uploaded like 600 videos on YouTube.

02:13:50.340 So I forget about every video I do as soon as I post it, but there's been a lot, there's

02:13:54.920 been, I, I've done a lot of different things on my channel and with standup and I get the

02:14:00.240 most death threats from vegans.

02:14:01.580 It's hilarious.

02:14:02.560 Oh yeah.

02:14:02.900 It's great.

02:14:03.360 I've, I've been canceled for jokes about Muslim people, uh, about, oh, just like I, I did

02:14:08.720 a horrible joke back in the day.

02:14:10.020 It was hilarious, but horrible as well.

02:14:11.840 I had, I had about 10,000 DMs in the first like two or three hours that it went through

02:14:17.400 and it ended up about 60,000 in two days, all death threats, but I still get more from

02:14:22.000 vegan people and that is because they are weak pieces of shit.

02:14:25.800 Oh wow.

02:14:26.280 Okay.

02:14:26.500 Now I'm going to get, I'm going to get, there you go.

02:14:28.460 Right to that one.

02:14:29.400 I'm going to get canceled.

02:14:30.280 Um, okay.

02:14:31.020 Last, just the last thing on the whole OF thing.

02:14:33.580 I just want to say one thing.

02:14:35.320 If there's any young women who are watching, please do not model your lifestyle after women

02:14:42.340 who do OnlyFans.

02:14:43.300 Thank you very much.

02:14:44.380 Uh, yeah.

02:14:45.520 I honestly didn't think my OnlyFans was going to be like such a big deal.

02:14:50.960 I thought we were just going to be like, not now.

02:14:53.040 Yes, you did.

02:14:53.540 It's not your OnlyFans.

02:14:54.500 No, like, like when I first came onto the show, I'm like, oh, I just thought we were

02:14:58.620 like going to tell funny dating stories.

02:15:00.460 We'll get to that.

02:15:01.340 We'll get to that.

02:15:02.020 I didn't think it was going to be like that big of a deal.

02:15:04.260 And I think if I said I was a liberal, it wouldn't have been a deal, like big deal.

02:15:08.080 I think it's that I call myself a traditional conservative.

02:15:12.460 So it's interesting.

02:15:13.920 It's unique to have someone say I'm conservative, but I do OnlyFans.

02:15:17.580 Yeah.

02:15:18.000 Like if you were some liberal feminist chick, it'd just be like, okay.

02:15:21.440 Yeah.

02:15:22.060 It's like, that was the shocker that I'm like a Republican.

02:15:26.880 No, that's not the shocker.

02:15:28.220 The shocker is the fact that you say that you are a traditional woman, that you want traditional

02:15:32.720 values, but you have an OnlyFans, which is not traditional.

02:15:38.260 The shocker is actually that.

02:15:41.160 That is the shocker.

02:15:42.540 I'm sorry.

02:15:43.020 I just wanted to point that out.

02:15:43.860 I feel like you would be great for OnlyFans.

02:15:45.620 You know all this stuff.

02:15:45.760 I know.

02:15:46.440 I know all the moves.

02:15:47.580 I know.

02:15:47.860 I'm just, the idea of me having sex on camera is the most disgraceful thing of all time.

02:15:52.080 I am so pale and gross.

02:15:54.000 It's hilarious.

02:15:55.140 Do you hate OnlyFans models or vegans more?

02:15:59.460 Vegans.

02:16:00.080 Probably vegans.

02:16:00.740 Vegans are up there.

02:16:02.060 I'm sorry.

02:16:02.460 That's funny.

02:16:02.740 No, no.

02:16:03.220 I'm a big fan of nudes.

02:16:04.860 I don't know.

02:16:05.200 Look, if you, if there's, again, if there's any young women watching, if you ever want

02:16:08.960 to get married, if pictures of yourselves, excuse me, if pictures of yourself doing sexual

02:16:14.140 things are all over the internet, your husband and your kids will not appreciate that.

02:16:18.140 Just saying.

02:16:18.900 Okay.

02:16:19.100 I don't think the husband.

02:16:20.320 Don't worry about it.

02:16:21.120 Don't worry about it.

02:16:21.740 Don't worry about it.

02:16:22.440 All right.

02:16:22.660 We have Danny De La Torre here.

02:16:25.460 Girls have asked me if I talk to other girls while doing so with them.

02:16:28.740 I don't care if they're talking to other guys though.

02:16:30.840 But if you have side hoes and your main talks to another guy, that is fair game.

02:16:36.300 Dating cannot have double standards.

02:16:39.240 Is this, I think this is related to Q.

02:16:41.520 Probably.

02:16:42.300 Oh, FDG.

02:16:43.980 Oh.

02:16:44.360 Oh.

02:16:44.960 Okay.

02:16:45.320 Thank you very much.

02:16:47.980 Merci beaucoup.

02:16:49.600 It means the world.

02:16:50.540 We have, okay.

02:16:51.280 So he's saying, if I talk to other girls while doing so with them, I don't care if they're

02:16:54.940 talking to other.

02:16:55.920 See, I think this is where Q disagrees.

02:16:58.600 I kind of disagree.

02:17:00.140 If this is what you've negotiated, if you've negotiated a unilateral closed on their end

02:17:07.540 or closed on their end to open on yours and they're cool with that, I think that's totally

02:17:12.100 legit.

02:17:12.560 I think it's going to be hard to get.

02:17:14.280 And actually, Q, I have a question for you on this.

02:17:16.160 And if you want to respond to him, what is your pitch to a girl?

02:17:20.960 Like, so you say you disclose to them, hey, you know, like, what is your pitch?

02:17:26.200 What is the selling angle?

02:17:27.540 How do you sell it to a girl?

02:17:30.400 Well, I guess there's a couple different things.

02:17:32.180 One, there's the non-monogamy component.

02:17:33.760 But then also, like with your main chick, how do you sell closed on your end, open on

02:17:40.180 mine?

02:17:41.200 Just like that.

02:17:42.620 Oh, you just say that shit?

02:17:44.820 Oh, flam life.

02:17:45.880 Just like that.

02:17:46.640 No, thank you.

02:17:47.620 And then responding to him, he said double standards cannot, but they can because of

02:17:53.660 biology.

02:17:54.580 They can because of biology and they can because of the way the male brain works versus

02:17:57.700 the way the female brain works.

02:17:58.940 And as I said, if you know that a woman gets attached, you know this woman is selective.

02:18:05.040 She only wants to date one guy and she chooses to be committed to you.

02:18:08.200 You're the guy that she's attached to and she chooses to remain committed to you despite

02:18:12.060 the fact that you date other girls.

02:18:14.820 That's 100% her choice.

02:18:16.840 The onus is on her.

02:18:18.660 However, if I communicate that I'm aware that you're this way, I know that if you date another

02:18:23.780 guy that you would like that guy because of the way you move with me and because the

02:18:27.080 way you move prior to me, then I'm not accepting that because I know I already lost you to begin

02:18:32.980 with.

02:18:33.280 There would be even no point in me in contesting it.

02:18:35.880 It's like, oh, I started dealing with this guy.

02:18:37.900 I know that for you to have been dealing with that guy, it's been premeditated.

02:18:41.600 Y'all have been talking.

02:18:42.360 You've allowed him to sexually arouse you.

02:18:45.380 You've gone out with him.

02:18:46.400 You spent time with him.

02:18:47.340 You've got close to him.

02:18:48.280 You've been intimate with him.

02:18:49.820 And so that guy's going to naturally give you what you feel like you aren't getting from

02:18:53.560 me, which is the commitment, especially if he's only dealing with you.

02:18:56.140 So you're going to have more incentive to leave regardless.

02:18:58.580 So therefore, it doesn't matter.

02:19:01.920 It doesn't matter.

02:19:02.540 Also, there's a whole bunch of double standards, some that benefit men, some that benefit women.

02:19:07.940 And I guess Danny De La Torre, whatever, sorry if I got your name wrong there, do you pay

02:19:14.580 for the first date?

02:19:16.380 That's a double standard that men are expected to pay for the first date.

02:19:19.660 Just saying, like, are you 50-50 on everything?

02:19:24.720 Danny De La Torre?

02:19:26.460 There's a lot of girls running around with free dinners.

02:19:29.020 Foodie calls.

02:19:30.000 Foodie calls.

02:19:30.660 Foodie calls.

02:19:31.540 It is a thing.

02:19:33.380 Nick, can you pull up Twitch really quick?

02:19:34.620 Let's shout out Twitch.

02:19:37.300 Guys, go to twitch.tv.

02:19:39.360 Oh, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

02:19:41.840 Drop us a follow.

02:19:42.500 Drop us a prime sub if you have one.

02:19:47.220 Wait, who?

02:19:48.060 What the fuck?

02:19:48.940 Close that out.

02:19:50.380 No, no, no, no, no.

02:19:50.960 Go back.

02:19:51.360 Close the little fucking at the top.

02:19:54.560 It's all good.

02:19:56.460 I don't know.

02:19:58.500 I forgot who.

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02:20:01.440 Rockin, think for the prime.

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02:20:05.260 Is that your username, Blink?

02:20:06.840 Wow, that's good for you, man.

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02:20:12.060 Thriwella?

02:20:13.000 I can't pronounce it.

02:20:15.020 The Riley, I think.

02:20:16.300 Thank you for the prime.

02:20:16.960 I appreciate it.

02:20:17.460 Okay, so, I had a couple notes here.

02:20:21.420 Let's see.

02:20:22.620 Hold on.

02:20:24.680 Actually, really quick on the whole, like, Q situation and it being closed on one end.

02:20:31.100 Would any of you consider dating a guy where it's closed on your end, open on his?

02:20:35.480 No.

02:20:35.920 Absolutely not.

02:20:36.960 I would not.

02:20:37.320 Donald Trump?

02:20:38.000 What about for Donald Trump?

02:20:39.520 No, we would have to have a monogamous relationship.

02:20:42.560 What if he's making 10 million?

02:20:45.620 That's why I said I don't want him to have to get divorced.

02:20:48.260 That's why I wouldn't put myself in the picture.

02:20:51.220 Okay.

02:20:51.500 I wouldn't do that ever.

02:20:53.360 I wouldn't do that ever.

02:20:55.920 Keep in mind, this could be, like, your ideal guy.

02:20:59.340 He could be very high status, very attractive.

02:21:01.300 I'm going to go from personal, like, if the guy I was dating now wanted to do, like, the

02:21:09.480 whole, we break up, but you stay there, I go out, I don't know.

02:21:16.700 Like, I can't.

02:21:17.580 Sure.

02:21:17.960 I don't know.

02:21:19.240 I wouldn't.

02:21:19.940 Monogamy would be a core value for me.

02:21:22.180 And just on the double standard, you know, I would also offer up that there are women

02:21:25.220 out there who have multiple male partners and the male partners are monogamous to them.

02:21:29.800 And so, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with double standards as long as everyone

02:21:33.380 agrees.

02:21:34.500 Okay.

02:21:36.560 No, I wouldn't.

02:21:37.540 I wouldn't want to do that.

02:21:39.000 Personally, I could not, would not be my ideal man if he would not be monogamous to me.

02:21:43.080 Alex?

02:21:43.820 Absolutely.

02:21:44.140 Donald Trump?

02:21:45.540 Absolutely not.

02:21:47.160 Huh?

02:21:47.500 She's scarred.

02:21:48.480 No, I just, like, it's, that's disgusting.

02:21:51.260 And also, I just wouldn't, I would lose attraction for a guy if I wasn't, like, the only woman

02:21:56.500 in his life.

02:21:57.060 Like, if I really liked him and he was my ideal 10 out of 10 guy or whatever, but if

02:22:02.200 he was talking to other girls besides me and I knew I was an option, I would lose attraction

02:22:07.020 for him.

02:22:07.560 You know, one of the interesting things that I love about this is you asking them what

02:22:12.560 they think they would do.

02:22:14.320 And I always say women don't honestly know what they would do until they're actually in

02:22:18.960 the situation.

02:22:19.600 And their emotions, the emotionally charged variables that factor into that equation

02:22:24.660 are actually present.

02:22:26.480 I think I know what I would do in this situation.

02:22:28.420 You, yeah, I mean, you can say what you would do on the outside looking in until you're actually

02:22:31.820 in the situation.

02:22:32.960 I don't think any of you have ever been in the situation.

02:22:35.340 You're acting like this is Sophie's choice.

02:22:37.420 Like, I would never be attracted to a guy who's talking to other girls.

02:22:40.600 No, I'm saying that because I'm saying that because I'm also, I'm also a relationship

02:22:45.400 coach and I see women do, I see women all the time who say one thing and actually do

02:22:51.680 another in reality.

02:22:53.140 And that's most of the women that I deal with.

02:22:55.520 Women love saying what they would or wouldn't do.

02:22:57.320 As I said, you're on the outside looking in, you're not in love.

02:23:00.220 You're, you don't know how you feel.

02:23:01.720 You're not overwhelmed with the feelings that you have for that guy.

02:23:04.280 You don't know that.

02:23:05.260 None of you do.

02:23:05.940 You can't say that.

02:23:06.760 You can say what you think you wouldn't do until you're actually in the situation and

02:23:10.940 you, and there are circumstances to where you start to rationalize, start to tell

02:23:14.120 yourself, well, maybe I can change his mind or maybe it's me.

02:23:17.320 Maybe it's something that I can do.

02:23:18.880 There are all kinds of things that women go through that they tell themselves emotionally

02:23:22.660 when they're caught up.

02:23:23.620 And that's how so many women end up caught up.

02:23:25.400 That's how women end up talking about fuck boys.

02:23:27.180 That's how they end up talking about, oh, this guy did me wrong.

02:23:29.520 Because a lot of the times those women are caught in situations because they're slaves

02:23:32.880 to their emotions and women are often slaves to their emotions.

02:23:36.020 When you're not emotionally present in what I'm saying, then yeah, you can say, no, I

02:23:40.140 wouldn't do that.

02:23:40.680 I absolutely wouldn't do that.

02:23:41.840 But if we're talking about, sorry.

02:23:43.040 If we're talking about non-monogamous relationships, 92% of non-monogamous relationships fail.

02:23:51.340 And it's because, one of the reasons is because it's not a mutual decision.

02:23:54.720 Well, you're saying relationships.

02:23:55.740 I'm not talking about relationships.

02:23:57.440 Well, that's what we were just talking about.

02:23:59.240 Yeah, you're talking about like being in a committed relationship, dating a guy.

02:24:02.040 I'm talking about if a guy is dating you and he's dating multiple women, but y'all aren't

02:24:05.260 committed to one another.

02:24:06.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:24:06.660 That's what I'm about to say.

02:24:07.660 Because it's never a mutual decision.

02:24:10.440 And a lot of the women that are going into non-monogamous relationships that are initiated

02:24:14.780 by the man just feel like they have to say yes because they're too scared to lose the man.

02:24:19.400 You know what those women say they wouldn't do?

02:24:20.900 They say they wouldn't stay if they got cheated on.

02:24:23.460 And they stay.

02:24:23.800 So you're saying women are driven by their emotions a lot.

02:24:26.540 So in that case, wouldn't you, as a relationship coach, try to coach women on understanding what

02:24:31.540 their boundaries are and sticking with them?

02:24:33.300 Who said I didn't?

02:24:34.560 I didn't.

02:24:35.060 I'm just asking.

02:24:35.780 You asked that question, and that question is already on a presupposition that I don't.

02:24:39.440 Okay, so then open question then.

02:24:41.400 I absolutely do.

02:24:42.600 I absolutely do because I want women to make decisions.

02:24:45.720 I want them to draw boundaries.

02:24:47.180 And at the end of the day, the goal is to give the woman a choice so women don't feel

02:24:51.320 like they don't have a choice.

02:24:53.660 That's why you're open, honest, and transparent.

02:24:55.280 That's why you say, hey, this is what the situation is.

02:24:57.480 This is what's going on.

02:24:58.300 This is what I want.

02:24:59.320 You can do what you want, or you can tell me that you want to conform to what I'm doing,

02:25:03.340 and you leave the decision up to her.

02:25:05.720 Women feel the feelings of malice come from feeling betrayed, feeling lied to, feeling

02:25:10.820 like they didn't have a choice.

02:25:12.080 So what do you do?

02:25:12.960 You eliminate those feelings.

02:25:14.160 You eliminate the feeling of betrayal.

02:25:15.660 You eliminate the feeling of they don't have a choice.

02:25:18.560 You allow them to make their own decision, and that's when their emotions come in.

02:25:22.020 And that's why I said, if a woman really likes you, a woman will stay through things that

02:25:26.040 she thinks she wouldn't stay through.

02:25:28.120 I can attest to that, and men who get women can attest to that, regardless of what women

02:25:32.180 say, because women say the same things.

02:25:34.200 I've dealt with women.

02:25:35.820 Oh, you know, I can keep this casual.

02:25:38.700 Oh, no, I really like you.

02:25:39.660 I want a relationship.

02:25:40.180 A little bit is where you're saying that a woman will sort of prove how much she cares

02:25:45.940 about you if she proves to you that she's willing to do things that she wouldn't otherwise

02:25:52.880 do.

02:25:53.580 What that sounds like to me is sort of already having a little bit of soft boundaries.

02:25:57.100 So the other way to approach that would be asking the woman, what are your boundaries

02:26:00.740 and coaching her on how to stick with that?

02:26:02.540 And that would be the approach that I would take.

02:26:04.380 Overall, I think it's just different when you, like he said, if you're in love, it's

02:26:10.360 completely different.

02:26:12.100 Thank you.

02:26:12.260 Like, when you are with, like, when you are really, really, like, in love with this person,

02:26:16.340 it does not matter what they say, what they do.

02:26:18.620 You're still just going to love that person.

02:26:20.740 And, like, the fact that we're all talking, we're talking about this, like, shows that,

02:26:23.800 like, some of us are clearly not in love.

02:26:26.540 I've, like, you know, I've been with...

02:26:27.780 That's why I respect your answer.

02:26:29.100 You said no, and then you said, I honestly don't know.

02:26:31.580 You know why she doesn't know?

02:26:32.800 Because she know how she feel about him right now.

02:26:34.680 And she make that decision based on how she feels about him right now.

02:26:38.160 And I think it's perfectly fine to not know.

02:26:39.740 You know, we don't all have the answers right here, right now.

02:26:41.900 And things change over time.

02:26:43.040 You know, maybe one day one person says they want to be monogamous.

02:26:46.160 The next six months, after six months, things change.

02:26:49.480 Where they are in their headspace changes.

02:26:51.060 They want to open up the relationship.

02:26:52.780 A year passes, they want to be monogamous again.

02:26:54.800 So it's a fluctuating thing.

02:26:56.280 We don't always have to know in the moment.

02:26:57.820 But I think there is a difference between saying a woman doesn't know because she's a slave to her emotion and how she feels might change.

02:27:05.960 That's true.

02:27:07.280 But you can also take the approach of saying, well, so think about what your priorities are, what you want.

02:27:13.220 And how can we figure out how to navigate within those boundaries without violating your own boundaries because of your emotions?

02:27:18.460 And see, once again, this is why I'm speaking from, now I'm speaking from a place of authority.

02:27:22.660 Because do you know how often I've tried that?

02:27:25.640 I've preached that to women.

02:27:27.500 Do you know how much women don't listen when they're in love?

02:27:31.280 Do you know how many women come to me when they schedule a coaching session and they tell me what the issue is and the type of guy that they're dealing with?

02:27:37.660 And I tell them about boundaries.

02:27:39.480 I tell them, leave.

02:27:41.540 I tell them these things.

02:27:43.280 They don't do it.

02:27:44.660 They won't do it.

02:27:45.940 It's simple.

02:27:47.200 See, it's different.

02:27:47.900 See, as I said, behaviorally, when you see it, their behaviors contradict what they say they would do.

02:27:54.180 I would never.

02:27:55.120 Or I could do this.

02:27:55.920 Then when they're in a situation, okay, this is your opportunity to do it.

02:27:59.220 No, he told me this.

02:28:00.460 He told me that.

02:28:01.160 And you're also forgetting the fact that men say things to the women on the other end.

02:28:05.420 So she's not going to listen to the outside world.

02:28:07.720 If you could tell a woman, you need to leave him.

02:28:10.120 Her friends tell her, you need to leave him.

02:28:11.760 Everybody tells her, you need to leave him.

02:28:13.560 What matters more to her is what he's telling her.

02:28:16.320 So what would you advise a female to do in that situation?

02:28:19.720 Thank you.

02:28:20.040 If she's stuck in a situation where she wants to leave but is having a hard time leaving.

02:28:24.020 There's nothing you can do outside of telling her what she needs to do.

02:28:27.280 You can't force her to.

02:28:28.500 She has to come to that realization on her own.

02:28:30.380 Could you say all these things about dudes, though?

02:28:32.720 What do you mean?

02:28:33.100 Like, everything that you've said about giving people, like, I feel like one of the issues

02:28:39.100 with people taking on board what you're saying is you're allowing people to do things.

02:28:42.680 And when you say that you allow it, it sort of means that you're demeaning someone.

02:28:45.920 I think, I know what you're saying, but I reckon that wording is probably not the best way

02:28:49.080 to get your point across.

02:28:50.480 I think with dudes, because dudes can be emotional wrecks, too.

02:28:54.580 Absolutely.

02:28:55.000 Dudes can be cheated on and stay with the woman.

02:28:56.560 Dudes can do all of those types of things.

02:28:58.060 Been there, coached them, too.

02:28:58.940 So, yeah, you're saying, you can say those, but I think it's important to say that.

02:29:03.780 Because otherwise, it looks like you're attacking women, which you're not doing.

02:29:06.240 Well, yeah, no.

02:29:06.880 But, it's important to say that, otherwise.

02:29:09.180 Yeah, but it's about, it's about the, it's about where does it occur more.

02:29:12.140 Sure.

02:29:12.380 There's a disparity between how often men experience that and how often women experience that.

02:29:16.860 And typically, it's the woman experiencing it a lot more than the man is.

02:29:19.720 Okay.

02:29:20.100 Because men are more like, men will leave.

02:29:21.980 If men get cheated on, they leave.

02:29:24.160 Women stay.

02:29:25.200 Is that a pride thing, do you think?

02:29:26.620 Like, does it just hit the pride or does it, is it more of a, it's built into your DNA

02:29:32.480 that this person isn't the one to carry a child?

02:29:35.440 It's both.

02:29:36.020 I say the pride stems from what's built into your DNA.

02:29:38.440 Okay.

02:29:39.020 Yeah.

02:29:40.860 Yeah, I also hate women.

02:29:41.900 Oh, okay.

02:29:43.380 I think that's a very concise way to finish off what you're saying.

02:29:48.340 That it is all built into our DNA.

02:29:51.380 I think there's a book, is it, is it, is it, someone younger, younger?

02:29:55.760 Carl.

02:29:55.960 Carl Young.

02:29:57.240 Yeah.

02:29:57.660 Yeah.

02:29:57.960 The book about sexual behavior.

02:30:01.400 A very interesting read talking about why we do what we do.

02:30:04.500 Everyone should read that.

02:30:05.780 And how it sort of fits into current societal norms and cultural norms and how we sort of

02:30:11.280 trust certain people to carry our offspring and don't trust others.

02:30:14.500 I think that's, it's really, it really speaks quite loudly if you allow, if you will listen

02:30:19.260 to it.

02:30:19.600 Yeah.

02:30:20.160 And if you, if you realize a lot of, a lot of domestic abuse comes from women who have

02:30:26.940 committed an act of infidelity or they perceive that the woman has committed an act of infidelity,

02:30:31.820 that's that pride and jealousy that comes into play.

02:30:34.060 So when a woman cheats, a man is much more likely to put his hands on her if he finds out because

02:30:39.700 of that sexual jealousy.

02:30:40.700 Like sexual jealousy is, in a sense, more intense for men because men value sexuality more than

02:30:48.540 women do.

02:30:49.080 Like emotional cheating is deeper for women and sexual cheating is deeper for men.

02:30:54.500 So it's harder for a man to overcome sexual infidelity than it is for a woman to overcome

02:30:59.360 sexual infidelity.

02:31:00.900 And it's also more difficult for a woman to overcome emotional infidelity than it is for

02:31:05.660 her to overcome sexual infidelity because they place two different values on those things,

02:31:09.820 two different weighted values.

02:31:11.140 So emotional infidelity means more to women because as I said, women are, emotions is how

02:31:17.080 men demonstrate, you know, allocating resources, investing in resources.

02:31:20.140 So if a woman, if a man is cheating emotionally, then to that woman, that means he's giving that

02:31:24.340 woman other things that he normally gives her, which means he really likes her.

02:31:28.500 Whereas a woman, if she's cheating, then that means she has the possibility of conceiving that

02:31:33.620 man's child and him fathering a child that's not his.

02:31:37.240 So we take that much more seriously because of that possibility, because of that paternity uncertainty.

02:31:41.920 Yeah, from an evolutionary biology standpoint, the worst thing a male can do is give his

02:31:49.120 resources to an offspring that's not his.

02:31:52.020 And the worst thing that a female can do is kind of lose the caregiver who can give the

02:31:56.580 resources.

02:31:57.240 So from a purely evolutionary biology standpoint, obviously society has evolved to be not just

02:32:02.060 about that, but, you know, that still drives our actions.

02:32:04.480 Right.

02:32:05.020 I don't understand the concept of being a dating coach without being married.

02:32:08.900 Like, what is your credentials to be telling people how they should date?

02:32:12.360 My psych degree.

02:32:13.640 And then the actual fact that you had to take a course, you had to take like a two month

02:32:19.080 course on becoming a certified relationship coach and there's a science to it.

02:32:22.900 So it makes no sense for, I hate when people say that you don't have to be something or

02:32:26.580 in something in order to talk about what the science reveals about.

02:32:29.960 No, I agree with that.

02:32:30.820 Exactly.

02:32:31.220 So that's that you just answered your own question.

02:32:33.000 Okay.

02:32:33.320 How many women have you dated that have taken your course?

02:32:37.220 That have taken my course?

02:32:38.260 Have you ever dated a woman that is paid to take your course?

02:32:40.300 No.

02:32:40.400 For coaching?

02:32:40.940 You should draw it into the syllabus.

02:32:42.060 Yeah, that's like.

02:32:42.680 Yeah, no.

02:32:43.040 You have to date me at the end.

02:32:44.560 No.

02:32:44.700 That's so weird.

02:32:45.280 No.

02:32:45.760 But I have had clients who were attracted to me, but I've never dated any of my clients.

02:32:49.960 Yeah.

02:32:50.280 So it's.

02:32:51.040 Yeah, sorry.

02:32:51.620 Just going back to just clarifying how you would cancel a woman, just kind of trying

02:32:56.620 to understand that.

02:32:57.420 So you were saying that women are driven by their emotions, but in the sense where you see

02:33:03.120 and she sees that she's in an unhealthy relationship, she wants to leave, you want her to leave

02:33:07.380 as her relationship coach, but she's not leaving.

02:33:11.020 So I guess in that case, it's like, how do you handle that?

02:33:14.700 It's only so much I can tell you.

02:33:17.920 It's only so much guidance I can give you, because at the end of the day, you're going

02:33:21.360 to make the decisions that you're going to make.

02:33:23.160 So if you choose that, then at that point, then our relationship.

02:33:27.060 He's a coach, he can't make you do something.

02:33:29.020 Yeah, I can only guide you and advise you on what would be the most effective course of

02:33:34.100 action for your sanity.

02:33:36.520 Yeah, I think we're kind of saying the similar things.

02:33:38.300 I guess my angle is just that, so it's how you would advise her is to sort of put herself

02:33:43.380 first and listen to her, sort of feeling on what is good for her and try to enact those

02:33:49.620 things.

02:33:50.160 So in a sense, not listening to her emotions as strongly, but actually acknowledging kind

02:33:55.840 of where her boundaries and priorities are and going after that.

02:33:58.260 So I think it sounds like we're kind of saying that.

02:33:59.880 Yeah, yeah, we're saying the same thing.

02:34:01.540 I'm just saying it's much more difficult in actual reality.

02:34:04.100 You know, it's easier to tell a woman what she should do versus what she's actually going

02:34:08.060 to do because as I said, I'm not the guy, I'm not the guy on the other end who, you

02:34:12.320 know, every time she feels that she has the strength to leave, he pulls her back in or

02:34:15.600 he tells her something she wants to hear or he tells her he's going to change or he tells

02:34:19.300 her he's going to stop doing this.

02:34:20.620 And because she loves him, she wants to believe him.

02:34:22.900 And the fact that she wants to believe him keeps her invested in the relationship because

02:34:26.720 she believes that at some point he'll change.

02:34:29.740 See, it becomes what I was talking about earlier with the potential.

02:34:33.160 Yeah, like she sees the potential.

02:34:35.360 So he can change.

02:34:36.720 So hope is a strong emotion.

02:34:38.060 See, hope is a really strong emotion.

02:34:40.160 If that woman has hope for that man, then it's going to be really, really tough to get

02:34:43.920 her out of that.

02:34:45.760 I want to bring it back really quick to you, Christy, then I'm going to go around the table

02:34:49.120 on something.

02:34:51.120 You said on another show that you do OnlyFans because men aren't doing what they're supposed

02:34:55.800 to.

02:34:56.160 Is that correct?

02:34:58.340 Wait, sorry, can you review that?

02:34:59.740 Yeah, you said on another show that you do OnlyFans or you were driven to do OnlyFans because

02:35:05.960 men aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing.

02:35:08.960 Is that a correct statement?

02:35:13.480 Maybe, and I'm not exactly sure if I'm like, there could be two ways that that goes.

02:35:21.860 But I think that girl, like if we were being taught to raise, like we were being taught

02:35:31.820 traditional values, opposed to being taught feminism, then women would get like married

02:35:39.100 and people would just be getting married younger.

02:35:41.720 And not do what?

02:35:42.840 Not have an OnlyFans?

02:35:44.000 Not have a job.

02:35:45.140 Like the olden days.

02:35:47.480 Well, you've kind of just walked yourself into...

02:35:49.500 No, it's like if we were, because they like are forcing like this feminist and like liberal

02:35:55.380 stuff and it's like normalized now.

02:35:58.420 But if this were like the olden days, it's like you get married young and the man goes

02:36:04.380 to work and the female stays home with the kids.

02:36:07.020 And that's what I believe in.

02:36:08.420 But that's just not how our society is anymore, which is a shame that it isn't.

02:36:12.700 But a guy could be doing everything that he's supposed to do.

02:36:15.300 Like if that's your standard, but not make a million dollars a year, you said that's

02:36:18.580 still not enough then for you to quit.

02:36:21.240 Well, I'm just saying that I don't see myself quitting in the future.

02:36:26.560 Why do you want someone to do everything for you?

02:36:29.780 Why do I...

02:36:30.580 Why do you want someone to do everything for you?

02:36:32.540 How do I want someone to do everything for me?

02:36:34.600 Well, you want to be the traditional, I don't want to have to work.

02:36:37.220 I don't want to have to do any of that.

02:36:38.160 Why do you want...

02:36:38.760 I believe that men and women are not...

02:36:41.700 We are equally as important, but we are not equally the same.

02:36:45.740 A man's strengths and a woman's strengths are completely different.

02:36:48.980 A woman's strengths are the equivalent to a man's weaknesses, and a man's strengths are

02:36:53.820 the equivalent to a woman's weaknesses.

02:36:55.500 And that's why together we make a whole.

02:36:57.420 That's why we mate in the first place.

02:37:00.420 Should you be seen and not spoken to?

02:37:03.860 Or not speak, rather?

02:37:05.980 Seen and heard.

02:37:07.020 Seen and not heard?

02:37:07.800 That type of thing?

02:37:08.560 Like, because that's the traditional mindset in a marriage.

02:37:13.040 Like, the woman stands there and looks pretty.

02:37:15.160 Is that what you mean by a traditional marriage?

02:37:17.380 Because I would think, if I was a woman, that that's shit.

02:37:20.500 No, I think I just explained it.

02:37:23.560 I mean that the woman is supposed to be the caretaker, and the man is supposed to be the

02:37:28.900 provider.

02:37:29.360 And I think that's how it sounds like you and your wife work.

02:37:33.080 We work 50-50 on everything.

02:37:35.280 Yeah.

02:37:35.880 We look after our son 50-50 on everything.

02:37:39.120 Okay.

02:37:39.320 And I feel like that is absolutely, without a doubt, the best way to live it.

02:37:43.420 And I think there's a recent stat or study or whatever came out about millennial fathers

02:37:48.680 are spending something like 81% more time with their kids than ever before.

02:37:52.300 And that creates a whole generation of better young people, be it boys or girls.

02:37:56.980 It makes them a whole lot better.

02:37:58.840 And I think mixing it up in the family household is such an important thing to do.

02:38:02.380 There's nothing wrong with staying at home and cooking and cleaning and all those type

02:38:05.660 of things.

02:38:06.080 But as long as your husband pulls his weight, that is so important.

02:38:11.140 Because otherwise you start to resent each other.

02:38:13.040 Oh, I have to go to work all day.

02:38:14.700 Oh, I have to clean all day.

02:38:16.020 I'm not arguing against fathers being in the home.

02:38:19.720 I think fathers should be in the home.

02:38:21.180 No, no, that's not what I mean.

02:38:23.320 That's not what I mean at all.

02:38:24.260 I know, but I think you're just like...

02:38:26.180 What?

02:38:26.980 What am I doing?

02:38:27.620 I don't know what you're trying to get at that like...

02:38:30.280 No, I just don't think that you actually want to be completely taken care of.

02:38:35.800 I don't think anyone wants that.

02:38:37.200 I think you lose a place in life when you do that.

02:38:39.760 You don't actually...

02:38:40.800 You lay on your deathbed and go, fuck, well, I'm glad I got Cartier jewelry bought for me.

02:38:47.500 Where's the fun in that?

02:38:48.660 Where's the happiness in that?

02:38:49.680 You've got to make something for yourself.

02:38:51.360 Wait, so do you object to households where the husband is the sole breadwinner?

02:38:57.540 No, not at all.

02:38:58.080 Because sometimes it's because I'm the sole breadwinner.

02:39:00.500 Sometimes it's a financial decision.

02:39:03.020 But you're still going to have something that you're working on.

02:39:05.580 But you were saying everything's like 50-50.

02:39:07.920 Yeah.

02:39:08.560 But are you talking about finances or...

02:39:11.400 No, not so much finances.

02:39:12.380 I am the sole breadwinner, but my wife is involved in creating the videos.

02:39:17.560 Oh, well, she's involved in your business.

02:39:19.340 Yeah, she's involved in the business.

02:39:20.020 She helps with like editing and...

02:39:21.560 She has her own business that she works on.

02:39:23.880 She helps with basically coming up with video ideas.

02:39:26.320 She's written jokes for me in the past.

02:39:27.960 Sometimes the most...

02:39:29.180 Okay, so she's like involved in your...

02:39:31.020 Yeah, she's involved.

02:39:31.880 She's involved.

02:39:32.780 And she sells the merch after shows.

02:39:35.000 She does all of those type of things.

02:39:36.300 And I love that we do that together.

02:39:38.120 And I'm completely fine with that.

02:39:40.480 I want my husband to be the sole breadwinner, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't do things with him.

02:39:45.460 Like I would completely make businesses with him and stuff.

02:39:48.820 I like the entrepreneurial mindset.

02:39:50.680 It's just like I would go into real estate or create a business or something, but I'm not going to be like the leader of taking charge of that business.

02:40:00.440 I'll play a role in that, but my main goal will be to be a mom.

02:40:05.540 There's nothing wrong with that.

02:40:06.920 I got a question for the whole panel here.

02:40:10.760 First off, just a show of hands, who here wants to be married and have a husband one day?

02:40:16.020 Or a wife, I guess.

02:40:17.620 But a wife or not, you know, because we do have too many.

02:40:23.140 We do have too many.

02:40:24.260 So all the girls want to get married, correct?

02:40:26.660 And you're...

02:40:27.260 Wait.

02:40:28.420 You're engaged, but nobody here is married except for you, correct?

02:40:34.160 Question for the ladies.

02:40:36.260 Do you take your husband's last name in marriage?

02:40:38.900 Go ahead.

02:40:39.460 Okay.

02:40:40.160 I don't want to take my husband's last name unless it's Trump or Kennedy.

02:40:44.780 Because mine is such a good one.

02:40:46.340 And it's really like...

02:40:48.020 This is another factor.

02:40:48.740 Mine is such a good one, though.

02:40:49.540 This is not traditional.

02:40:51.380 I know, but like...

02:40:51.940 That is not traditional, Christy.

02:40:53.480 I just really...

02:40:54.220 My last name's like...

02:40:55.580 I just really like my last name.

02:40:57.980 I know that's not traditional, but...

02:41:00.520 Traditional woman, by the way.

02:41:01.720 She won't take her husband's last name.

02:41:02.780 Okay, would you abbreviate?

02:41:03.420 I'm not saying I definitely won't, but like I don't...

02:41:06.480 I worry that my husband's last name is going to be something that I don't want.

02:41:11.760 And I don't want my kids' last name.

02:41:14.340 I don't want it, though, because it doesn't sound good.

02:41:16.740 Okay, here.

02:41:17.320 Let's go around the table.

02:41:18.360 Let's go around the table.

02:41:19.180 Would you take your husband's last name?

02:41:20.540 I would.

02:41:21.800 I don't feel strongly about it one way or the other way.

02:41:24.520 If he felt really strongly about it and it was important for him, I would totally do it.

02:41:28.680 But otherwise, it just feels like a lot of paperwork and hassle to go through changing everything.

02:41:33.980 Well, okay.

02:41:34.340 I guess the other component of this is he wants the kids to have his last name, too.

02:41:41.000 I mean, they have to have a last name, so it's probably more likely to be his last name than mine.

02:41:45.960 So I'm totally fighting for that.

02:41:47.180 Well, I mean, that sort of thing is negotiated.

02:41:51.520 Yeah.

02:41:52.320 I mean, it doesn't strike me as something that's traditional, but it is something that is negotiated.

02:41:57.500 Kelly, what about you?

02:41:58.380 I want to hyphenate.

02:41:59.660 No.

02:42:00.140 Kelly!

02:42:00.960 Because I love my last name.

02:42:03.700 Everyone calls me by my first and last name.

02:42:06.300 That's my nickname.

02:42:07.700 What's your last name?

02:42:08.880 Lou.

02:42:09.220 So my name is Kelly Lou.

02:42:10.920 Kelly Lou?

02:42:11.840 It's fun to say, you know?

02:42:13.540 And my boyfriend's last name is Murray, so it's going to be Kelly Lou Murray.

02:42:17.080 Oh, hyphenated?

02:42:18.120 Yeah.

02:42:18.500 Do you want him to hyphenate, too?

02:42:20.240 No.

02:42:20.720 What about for the kids?

02:42:22.300 They can just have his.

02:42:23.520 I don't care.

02:42:24.220 Okay, all right.

02:42:25.740 And then I also have my last name tattooed on my back, so it's like, you know.

02:42:29.300 You're kind of committed.

02:42:29.900 And I really just genuinely love, like, everyone calls me, my manager calls me that, like, everyone

02:42:36.900 calls me, like, Kelly Lou.

02:42:38.640 Kelly Lou.

02:42:38.900 That's nice.

02:42:39.240 You know, it's like, my name's just Kelly.

02:42:41.080 It's kind of boring.

02:42:42.400 Like, oh, hey, Kelly Lou.

02:42:44.440 Like, that sounds better than just Kelly.

02:42:46.120 A lot of people call me, like, with my last name, too.

02:42:48.360 Wait, Madison, what about you?

02:42:49.520 No, I absolutely want Frankie's last name.

02:42:51.180 You want Frankie's last name.

02:42:52.300 I didn't know.

02:42:52.860 Are there any negatives to having?

02:42:55.180 Well, I mean, just that it takes a bit of time to, you know, you got to go to the courthouse,

02:42:58.720 get your name changed.

02:42:59.860 It costs a little bit of money.

02:43:01.220 Then there's some time.

02:43:02.300 You got to get your credit cards changed, various things.

02:43:04.660 You just get, like, everything, all that, all that.

02:43:06.320 I do all of that to have Frankie's last name.

02:43:07.720 But it's like, it takes, like, it's like a day of work, a day or two of work, I think.

02:43:12.680 I don't mind.

02:43:13.000 If he'll do the work, I'll wait.

02:43:14.280 What's that?

02:43:14.840 I'll work.

02:43:15.120 He can do the work and the paperwork, and that would be nice.

02:43:16.780 He can do the work?

02:43:17.620 He'll do the filing.

02:43:19.920 Alex, what about you?

02:43:21.600 When I get married, I absolutely want to take a guy's last name, and I think that

02:43:25.160 is the ultimate traditional thing to do because, look.

02:43:27.540 It is tradition.

02:43:28.320 It is tradition.

02:43:29.220 It's tradition, and it's important because women have babies, right?

02:43:32.860 We physically can say, like, this is my child, and there's proof physically.

02:43:36.560 But the only thing that a guy can do is to give that child his last name.

02:43:41.160 And so, women have babies, guys have, sorry, yeah, women have babies, guys have maybes,

02:43:47.360 unless they're giving that child their last name.

02:43:49.020 They are pledging to protect, to provide, and be there.

02:43:52.580 And so, I definitely want his last name, and I want my kids to have his last name.

02:43:55.140 Right.

02:43:55.300 I want the same name as my kids.

02:43:57.120 Yeah.

02:43:57.360 Yeah.

02:43:57.500 Did you guys hyphenate, or did she take your last name?

02:43:59.760 No, she took mine.

02:44:00.940 Well, if she wants to get paid every week, then, yeah, she has to.

02:44:03.580 But it is 2023.

02:44:05.320 Men can have children, too, as well.

02:44:06.880 So, I'd just like to add that in there.

02:44:08.220 I think it's important, because it's, I don't know, if you look into the crux of it,

02:44:12.760 like, it's actually not that important.

02:44:14.100 And you start to really nail down and go, okay, why do we want that?

02:44:17.580 Why do we want that?

02:44:18.500 But it is tradition.

02:44:19.940 And I like that.

02:44:20.580 Yeah, it's tradition.

02:44:20.700 I think it's important.

02:44:21.420 Just for the sake of argument, so, say you were in a household where the female earned

02:44:24.400 more money and was the head of household.

02:44:26.520 In that case, could an argument be made for the family to take the female's last name?

02:44:31.840 So, is this truly, like, who is head of the household, or is it more like, it's just male?

02:44:35.240 I think whoever's stronger.

02:44:36.900 Yeah.

02:44:37.080 Like, in a bench press?

02:44:38.220 Like, if my wife can bench press more than me, then I'm taking her name.

02:44:41.320 So, it's just, like, pure general life.

02:44:41.900 I've been told a man in a religion.

02:44:43.340 It's men who like more masculine women.

02:44:45.360 Yeah.

02:44:45.860 If she's got a bigger clip than my dick is, then she can take it.

02:44:49.360 What?

02:44:49.980 Where people take the woman's last name, or is that just, like, humorous?

02:44:53.900 Simpy.

02:44:53.940 Simpy.

02:44:54.300 I've had a couple who did that.

02:44:56.100 Loosen up.

02:44:56.640 What do you think?

02:44:59.320 Would you, let's say you were going to marry a girl, and she's like, I'd like to hyphenate.

02:45:05.720 No go?

02:45:06.520 No, we ain't hyphenate shit.

02:45:07.780 No hyphenating.

02:45:08.280 There you go.

02:45:08.860 No hyphenating.

02:45:09.660 We ain't hyphenating shit.

02:45:10.200 No hyphenating.

02:45:11.320 Okay.

02:45:11.500 Zero hyphenating.

02:45:14.120 See, here's the problem.

02:45:16.360 Is that offensive?

02:45:17.680 If a girl wanted to hyphenate?

02:45:18.920 Yeah.

02:45:19.180 Yeah, I think it is.

02:45:20.760 My name is so short already, and even with Kelly Murray, that doesn't sound as good.

02:45:25.980 But I think that's like saying when a girl refuses.

02:45:27.780 Kelly, I thought you were traditional.

02:45:28.920 Is that not, I mean, I don't care if my, I want my kids to have his last name, but it's

02:45:33.360 like, it's like my middle name.

02:45:34.660 I just think when a woman refuses to get rid of her last name entirely, even with a hyphen,

02:45:39.880 you're saying like you're not fully willing to let him lead, commit, and you're wanting

02:45:46.180 to keep a part of yourself.

02:45:47.080 When you get married, you're supposed to become one, and then the man is supposed to be the

02:45:50.540 leader and the head of the house.

02:45:51.840 I think when we keep our last name, you have to love him so bad to get that last name.

02:45:58.140 I wouldn't want to do that to my kids if it's really, really bad.

02:46:01.940 You don't want to give it to your kids, but you'll show them your name.

02:46:04.120 If his last name is bad, the kids are getting your name.

02:46:06.840 I really like my name.

02:46:08.580 It depends on what my future husband's last name is.

02:46:13.240 Trump or Kelly.

02:46:13.860 I would, I always thought like I'd end up giving my kids all the same middle name, which

02:46:19.200 would be my last name.

02:46:20.340 And then like, hopefully they could go by kind of more their first and middle name if it

02:46:25.040 was like a bad last name for them.

02:46:26.440 But it could be like on their first name.

02:46:27.820 I don't really have a dog in this fight because I mean, it's possible I could get married.

02:46:32.840 I mean, maybe I could, it's possible.

02:46:37.500 Maybe.

02:46:38.300 I think it's unlikely.

02:46:39.900 How old are you?

02:46:41.100 34.

02:46:42.100 You'll get married.

02:46:43.160 I'm not going to get married.

02:46:44.340 Someone's going to turn up one day and you just go.

02:46:46.140 Just going to rock your world.

02:46:47.500 Yeah.

02:46:47.960 Yeah.

02:46:48.160 Rock your world.

02:46:48.660 Yeah.

02:46:48.760 That's, that's, that's, that's my body.

02:46:50.480 Um, but if, okay, if I were to get married, I would want to use my last name, certainly

02:46:57.940 for the kids.

02:46:58.860 Uh, I think the problem with, with, uh, hyphenation, especially with the kids long term, just on

02:47:06.660 a practical level, you can like, let's assume everybody started hyphenating.

02:47:11.280 You can't do it because then what you like two people with hyphenated last names, they get

02:47:17.340 married, then they got four last names all of a sudden.

02:47:21.600 Then this shit is exponential, son.

02:47:24.140 It's going to be like, then it's eight.

02:47:27.640 Then it's what?

02:47:29.020 16.

02:47:29.660 But some coaches do that.

02:47:32.440 Like it's kids, it's people who are born and they name their kids like these long ass

02:47:37.540 names and there'll be like seven or eight names.

02:47:40.960 Hispanics.

02:47:41.640 Yeah.

02:47:42.420 Hispanics, uh, Africans.

02:47:44.000 But just because I hyphenate the last name, does, does that mean my kids?

02:47:48.300 Yeah.

02:47:48.540 Like you don't necessarily have to give it to your kid.

02:47:50.680 No, but yeah, I think, I think that's not as bad, but like when it comes to the kids,

02:47:54.900 you know, cause I wouldn't want my kids to be last name to be mine and his.

02:47:59.560 I would just want it to be his.

02:48:00.740 I like that.

02:48:01.320 But she wants to keep her.

02:48:02.540 I've never heard that before.

02:48:03.460 I like that.

02:48:04.100 I don't think that matters.

02:48:05.180 Like I wouldn't, I don't care.

02:48:06.280 But you just add it on and then the kids start for it.

02:48:08.940 I think that's smart.

02:48:09.840 A lot of people do it these days though.

02:48:11.080 Like a lot of people don't make their kids, but for the most part, like on, on her marriage

02:48:17.420 license is her name hyphenated my stepdad's name, but wherever she goes, she goes by his

02:48:24.400 name.

02:48:25.140 Like she says, fuck her name.

02:48:27.180 She goes by her, his last name.

02:48:29.360 I'm just, for me, I'm very, very, I'm pretty, pretty against getting married.

02:48:35.340 I'm on the fence with it.

02:48:37.260 So if you're trying to convince me as my future wife to get married, you got to take the last

02:48:42.860 name.

02:48:43.460 You want me to do this traditional marriage thing.

02:48:46.160 You got to take the last name.

02:48:47.620 It is what it is.

02:48:49.640 Changing the last name is so cultural too, because there's other cultures that are much more

02:48:53.020 paternalistic where name changing isn't a thing.

02:48:55.660 So this feeling of like, if, if you aren't truly invested in the relationship, you don't

02:49:00.340 want to be my woman.

02:49:01.340 This is America.

02:49:01.880 If you don't change my name.

02:49:03.100 That's true.

02:49:03.980 We're in America.

02:49:04.980 That's true.

02:49:05.440 But I'm just saying that this framework has changed their names.

02:49:09.080 Brian.

02:49:09.760 Okay.

02:49:10.040 Go ahead.

02:49:11.020 Let's calm down.

02:49:13.000 I'm just saying it's not, it's not truly objective.

02:49:15.540 In the families, they don't change their name.

02:49:17.620 Like they just add it.

02:49:20.260 In some cultures, I'm not saying that's for it.

02:49:22.280 Like you might get a girl super, like I'm down for my family.

02:49:25.200 We had this name in our family for like years, but for you, I'll change it.

02:49:29.720 Word.

02:49:30.440 Right.

02:49:30.740 Yeah.

02:49:31.100 It's like, we're not saying it's impossible.

02:49:33.900 Okay.

02:49:34.360 Brian, I think you're going to get married at like 39.

02:49:38.340 It's going to be like a big news story.

02:49:40.480 I know.

02:49:40.760 It's going to just be all over the tablet.

02:49:42.900 It's going to hit you like out of nowhere.

02:49:44.320 It's going to just randomly happen.

02:49:45.860 You're going to be like, he'll wear a plaid tux, a plaid flannel tux.

02:49:50.140 Stop.

02:49:51.060 A white plaid.

02:49:52.780 I think in order for me to actually consider marriage, she would have to out earn me.

02:49:59.000 Oh, I think like she would have to out earn me.

02:50:01.720 That's you don't want, you don't want a broke girl.

02:50:04.820 Huh?

02:50:05.260 You don't want a broke girl.

02:50:06.440 I mean, I, for a partner, I would date a broke girl, I guess.

02:50:09.800 But if for marriage, you want marriage.

02:50:13.200 It's very con of you, Brian.

02:50:15.500 I'm very generous.

02:50:16.740 You have very nice.

02:50:17.520 Like, what's your, what's your, what's your, what's your ballpark range?

02:50:20.640 Like, you're saying she has to make over more than you for marriage.

02:50:23.700 For marriage.

02:50:24.320 It's so beta to me to be like a guy to be that scared of women and like marriage.

02:50:30.040 Bro, it's not beta.

02:50:30.980 It's the most gangster shit you can do to be like smart about your money.

02:50:36.040 Just like always thinking every woman is out to get you and manipulate you.

02:50:39.020 Like that is beta shit.

02:50:40.440 Because.

02:50:40.800 It's not beta.

02:50:41.380 It's not.

02:50:41.740 No, it's smart.

02:50:42.980 No, no, no, no.

02:50:43.500 It's smart.

02:50:44.000 It's probably smart, but I'm confused because you guys are always arguing that women who

02:50:49.700 make more won't want a guy who makes less, but you're saying you want the woman who makes

02:50:54.540 more.

02:50:56.600 What?

02:50:57.100 Play your math.

02:50:57.920 Yeah.

02:50:58.400 I don't, I don't think you're saying you necessarily want a woman who makes more.

02:51:01.100 You'd only marry a woman who makes more.

02:51:03.300 She, for me to get married, she asked, I think she's going to make more money than me.

02:51:07.520 Kelly's children going to have the last name Lumary Ann King Smith Hodgson.

02:51:12.480 It's not Mary.

02:51:13.180 Well, I think Kelly said that she's cool with her kids having the father's last name.

02:51:19.260 I want them to have, I don't want them to, I don't want them to have my last name.

02:51:22.800 Yeah, no.

02:51:23.960 Yo, Avenger the Offender.

02:51:24.940 Thank you for the TTS.

02:51:26.880 Yeah, I would say when it comes to marriage, she's got to make more than me.

02:51:33.640 She's got to out earn me.

02:51:35.500 Oh, of course, Alex runs away when I'm about to respond to her.

02:51:40.180 Sorry.

02:51:41.580 It's okay.

02:51:42.020 Okay, apology accepted.

02:51:43.520 Well, do we have any chats?

02:51:44.560 We don't have any chats.

02:51:46.320 Well, I'll wait to respond until she's, where did Madison go?

02:51:50.140 Madison?

02:51:50.780 Is it Madison?

02:51:53.320 She's over there.

02:51:54.720 What are you doing back there, Madison?

02:51:56.400 You're eating?

02:51:57.200 What is that?

02:51:57.860 Is that a taco?

02:51:58.840 It's a turkey back.

02:51:59.840 We're wrong.

02:52:00.660 We're wrong.

02:52:01.100 Okay.

02:52:03.220 Kat, wait, hold on.

02:52:04.460 What did I have?

02:52:05.740 You had something that you mentioned in the pre-show notes.

02:52:11.300 You do not like feminism.

02:52:14.220 I don't know.

02:52:14.960 I don't like it either.

02:52:15.640 Is that true?

02:52:16.300 Feminism is a lie.

02:52:17.560 Hey, feminism.

02:52:18.640 Me?

02:52:19.400 Yeah, you.

02:52:20.100 Yeah, you.

02:52:20.420 I mean, I think it's more complicated than that.

02:52:24.240 I think feminism, depending on kind of what wave and sort of the approach can kind of give

02:52:31.640 a lot of faulty ideas that are sort of deviating so far from who we are biologically and kind

02:52:39.400 of how we are wired, that it's sort of this unrealistic goal that we should be trying to

02:52:45.980 strive for that I don't think really makes anyone happy.

02:52:48.680 Sure.

02:52:48.980 Yeah, I want to agree.

02:52:49.940 Like, feminism, I feel for, like, a lot of women, it gives them excuses.

02:52:55.240 Yeah.

02:52:55.360 Like, I'm doing this because I'm living in my feminism.

02:52:59.840 I'm pro-feminist because I want to do X, Y, and Z.

02:53:04.100 I did this because I'm a feminist.

02:53:06.180 Like, you can't tell me I'm doing it wrong because I'm a feminist.

02:53:09.740 Equal pay because I'm a feminist.

02:53:11.600 Like, all that.

02:53:12.520 It's, I feel like it's more excuses.

02:53:15.120 I feel like it's more trying to form women to, I don't want to say, like, make bad choices,

02:53:21.380 but, like, try and defend their choices by using it.

02:53:24.420 Well, feminism also has evolved a lot over the times because initially it was, like,

02:53:29.180 females want the same rights.

02:53:30.460 Obviously, we want the right to vote.

02:53:31.880 And we got that.

02:53:32.240 We want to be treated the same.

02:53:33.840 And then somehow it evolved into everything a man can do, a woman can do just as well.

02:53:38.580 And it's, like, all right.

02:53:40.500 Like, you can think that.

02:53:41.160 I know you're not going downstairs when someone tries to rob your house.

02:53:44.680 I'm going to be like, babe, go.

02:53:46.900 So, yeah, I think the initial intent was obviously good, but it's evolved into something that was.

02:53:50.840 Yeah.

02:53:51.020 Yeah, well, you said that males and females are biologically different.

02:53:54.900 I agree with you, obviously.

02:53:57.400 You said modern-day feminists seem to not like the idea that men and women are biologically different.

02:54:05.760 And you said there's a lot of data to back that up.

02:54:08.320 And you said you're a neurologist, correct?

02:54:10.540 Yeah.

02:54:10.880 And so is that kind of, like, within the purview of your field of study?

02:54:14.500 I think so.

02:54:15.000 I think I read a book or two saying that XX and XY have a few differences in kind of what they can do.

02:54:20.400 Kind of checks out.

02:54:21.420 Yeah, yeah.

02:54:22.380 And wait, so you're a medical doctor.

02:54:25.560 Do you work in a hospital?

02:54:27.200 Yeah.

02:54:27.760 Mm-hmm.

02:54:28.280 Okay.

02:54:29.060 And you do neurology?

02:54:31.700 Correct.

02:54:32.380 And kind of give us a little scope about what, you know.

02:54:36.860 Mm-hmm.

02:54:37.400 What that entails?

02:54:37.880 Yeah, in a hospital setting.

02:54:40.380 Sure, yeah.

02:54:40.940 I do mostly outpatient, so more in the clinic, but some inpatient work as well.

02:54:45.260 Okay.

02:54:45.460 So my subspecialty is movement disorders, so that's mostly focused on people with tremors and Parkinson's.

02:54:52.060 Mm-hmm.

02:54:52.720 But, you know, it also entails some somatization disorders where there's sort of functional and visible movements that aren't from a neurologic basis but more from a psychological basis, things like anxiety and depression.

02:55:05.820 So we look at neurotransmitters a lot.

02:55:08.820 That's sort of part of Parkinson's as well where we're looking at the dopamine reward systems, which drive both human behavior in terms of healthy human behavior and, you know, negative human behavior like addiction.

02:55:19.220 So, yeah, a little bit of everything.

02:55:20.460 Sure.

02:55:20.880 Can I just quickly, on the topic of movement disorders, I have paratismal dyskinesia.

02:55:26.240 Oh.

02:55:26.560 Do you know what that is?

02:55:27.940 I do.

02:55:28.980 Basically, what happens is I lose control of my eyes.

02:55:32.040 My eyes turn to here.

02:55:33.320 My neck turns and I go blind in one eye.

02:55:35.460 It's sort of like in the same family as epilepsy, which is a really easy way to describe it.

02:55:40.680 But I've had those since I was about 19 or so.

02:55:44.200 Wow.

02:55:45.220 And, yeah.

02:55:45.640 Are they attacks?

02:55:47.380 Somewhat.

02:55:47.560 Like, it's not constant, right?

02:55:48.860 No, no, no.

02:55:49.320 No, it's just one.

02:55:50.380 I'm on medication for it.

02:55:51.920 I take an anti-seizure medication and the neurologist I saw, he basically said, this could work.

02:55:56.400 Maybe it doesn't.

02:55:57.080 Not too sure.

02:55:58.040 Parabamazepine?

02:55:58.580 Yeah.

02:55:58.980 Yes.

02:55:59.360 Yes.

02:55:59.960 Tegretol, some people call it.

02:56:02.140 And it was very interesting because I used to play a sport called rugby league and that's when they started happening.

02:56:06.280 It's a big collision sport.

02:56:07.540 So, that would happen.

02:56:08.540 I would run into someone.

02:56:09.980 A big collision would happen.

02:56:11.300 I'd lose control of my eyes.

02:56:12.480 I'd go blind.

02:56:13.200 It was a whole thing.

02:56:14.680 Really, really crazy.

02:56:15.620 And that's what they said.

02:56:16.460 It's a movement disorder.

02:56:18.360 I started a ketogenic diet because of it.

02:56:20.460 Yeah.

02:56:20.620 And it actually helped it.

02:56:21.920 Which was very interesting.

02:56:23.660 Here's a rugby ball.

02:56:24.600 Almost.

02:56:25.260 Rugby league we're talking about here.

02:56:26.900 This is a very different sport.

02:56:28.340 Different ball too.

02:56:29.440 Wait, rugby league.

02:56:30.820 Okay.

02:56:31.580 Rugby league and rugby union.

02:56:33.980 No, this is for rugby union?

02:56:35.840 Yeah, this is a rugby union.

02:56:36.580 You don't use this kind of ball in rugby league?

02:56:38.460 It's very, very similar but very different as well.

02:56:40.360 It's like comparing cricket with baseball.

02:56:42.800 Okay, got it.

02:56:43.640 So, they're sort of ball games but they're different.

02:56:45.940 Alright.

02:56:46.480 And then you have AFL.

02:56:48.260 Yeah, that's just not for me.

02:56:49.760 Okay.

02:56:49.980 That's a lot.

02:56:51.020 It's a bit different.

02:56:51.920 Thank you.

02:56:52.380 Unless you want to hold on to it.

02:56:53.580 It's good to hold what we call a footy.

02:56:55.120 Alright, you can hold on to it if you worry about that.

02:56:56.840 Very good.

02:56:57.220 It's nice.

02:56:57.720 It's been a long time.

02:56:59.060 But yeah, very interesting.

02:56:59.720 Yeah, cool.

02:57:00.140 Thanks for sharing.

02:57:01.140 You're very welcome.

02:57:01.820 Can you fix me?

02:57:03.900 I'm all fucked up.

02:57:05.120 He's all fucked up.

02:57:06.180 Looks like you're already on the best medication for it.

02:57:09.420 So, yeah.

02:57:10.040 Yeah, I'm all right.

02:57:11.040 Happy months.

02:57:11.320 Wait.

02:57:11.920 So, okay.

02:57:12.760 So, you work in a hospital.

02:57:14.680 Yeah.

02:57:15.180 Doesn't it go down in the hospital when it comes to dating?

02:57:19.980 Like, nurses, doctors, PAs, they be fucking...

02:57:23.120 It's like scrubs all over the place.

02:57:24.700 Right.

02:57:25.860 Yeah, sometimes, you know, I would say that in training, that was more common.

02:57:30.500 So, I mean, medical training is forever, right?

02:57:33.940 So, you have college and then med school and residency and then, like, subspecialty training.

02:57:37.420 So, it's sort of just like college extended.

02:57:39.420 So, yeah, there was a lot of training, a lot of interdating, both between, like, doctors

02:57:43.480 and nurses and between doctors and doctors.

02:57:45.620 Do you date a doctor?

02:57:47.240 You said you're in a relationship for two years, is it?

02:57:49.460 I don't currently, no.

02:57:50.740 Huh?

02:57:51.100 I don't currently.

02:57:51.880 Oh, he's not a doctor.

02:57:52.880 No.

02:57:54.020 Okay.

02:57:54.340 Okay.

02:57:55.360 Question.

02:57:56.340 Or, wait, not a question.

02:57:58.400 Do the female doctors get upset that the male doctors fuck with the nurses?

02:58:07.840 You know?

02:58:08.420 You know what I mean?

02:58:09.480 Yeah, this is a great question.

02:58:11.140 So, this does come up because the male doctors will get a lot of attention from the nurses,

02:58:17.540 from the female nurses, and generally speaking, you know, that is a huge asset.

02:58:22.480 So, a lot of the female nurses are sort of looking for the new batch of residents and the new

02:58:26.980 doctors to sort of chase after and see if they can get in relationships.

02:58:30.760 Why is that, though?

02:58:31.720 Like, why do they just go?

02:58:33.480 How come they're so set on, like, going for the doctor?

02:58:36.480 Well, you know, I think...

02:58:37.360 I mean, I get, like, you know, I get, I get why.

02:58:39.760 I get the status, but it's just, but, like, are they just, are, like, the nurses really

02:58:43.680 just, like, waiting in there for the next, for the next doctor to come in?

02:58:48.240 Not all nurses.

02:58:49.360 And, you know, this is, this is no detractment at nurses by any means.

02:58:53.240 I think doctors have a lot to offer, you know, doctors are high earners, they're probably

02:58:58.400 relatively intelligent people, maybe they're kind of empathetic, so, you know, I think there's

02:59:03.400 valid qualities that would make someone kind of pursue that.

02:59:07.200 Who do you guys think cheat more?

02:59:09.140 Who cheats more, medical professionals or NBA players?

02:59:12.860 Wait, what?

02:59:13.620 Like, athletes, like professional athletes or healthcare professionals?

02:59:17.040 Who do you think cheats more?

02:59:17.600 Probably athletes.

02:59:18.480 Probably athletes.

02:59:19.020 They get way more attention and exposure.

02:59:20.760 I heard nurse infidelity amongst nurses is insane.

02:59:25.400 And I actually think, well, you had a question, though?

02:59:27.780 No, I was just trying to get to the meat of the question you're asking.

02:59:30.900 Oh, I was just, I was just curious, because you're in the field, and that, well, I was

02:59:36.280 kind of leading into, and I was going to ask the panel this, what, what the panel thinks

02:59:40.360 are some red flag jobs in a potential partner, and, because I was going to say nurses.

02:59:47.140 Hmm, why would you say?

02:59:48.040 Nurses is a little bit of a red flag.

02:59:49.700 Why would you say nurses?

02:59:50.760 Because they get down, son.

02:59:54.240 They get, I'm just saying, like, here's the thing, right?

02:59:56.720 Here's the thing.

02:59:57.780 Nurses, it's a high, it can be a high stress job.

03:00:02.140 There's a lot of attractive men around, stress, janitor's closet.

03:00:09.980 I'm sure you got stories.

03:00:11.460 People be fucking in the hospital.

03:00:13.300 I don't got any of those stories.

03:00:15.220 You don't got any stories?

03:00:16.080 I don't get those stories.

03:00:17.060 It's not exactly like scrubs.

03:00:18.620 I mean, scrubs is a little bit exaggerated.

03:00:20.540 Come on.

03:00:20.720 I'm just, okay, I just, I think nurses, it's kind of a red flag.

03:00:26.160 They're good at caretaking, though.

03:00:27.780 You know, they're, they're.

03:00:28.740 Honestly, though?

03:00:30.540 Would you know?

03:00:31.320 Really?

03:00:32.200 Yeah.

03:00:32.520 Yeah.

03:00:32.820 I mean, they're very, I think nurses are way more caring than doctors are.

03:00:36.580 Well, okay, I don't want to, like, paint with a broad brush here.

03:00:41.540 Of course.

03:00:41.960 But, like, there's definitely nurses who are very, you know, as you said, they're, what,

03:00:47.240 empathetic or caring, nurturing caretakers.

03:00:50.160 But, I don't know, some of them, not so much.

03:00:56.280 Not so much.

03:00:59.320 Okay.

03:00:59.880 All right.

03:01:01.140 FDG thing for the 50 gift.

03:01:02.480 Appreciate it.

03:01:03.280 You've had some bad experience with nurses, it sounds like.

03:01:05.720 I've dated a couple nurses.

03:01:07.240 Yeah?

03:01:08.720 There's a little something, a little something off, you know.

03:01:12.160 Interesting.

03:01:12.740 A little something.

03:01:13.420 Tell us more.

03:01:14.020 I don't know, it's just a stressful job.

03:01:18.220 Yeah.

03:01:18.600 For starters.

03:01:19.840 I mean, it depends, you know, what kind of work they're doing.

03:01:24.660 But, I think one of the big things is, there's a lot of room for them to meet, like, a lot

03:01:33.160 of high-status men.

03:01:35.100 So, like, if you're an average guy and you're dating a nurse, like, she's going to be moving

03:01:39.420 in rooms with, like, pretty high-status guys.

03:01:41.900 And, they actually, I think they released a study recently, Nick, I don't know if you

03:01:45.620 can look, search it up, that infidelity amongst, among nurses is very high.

03:01:53.580 Interesting.

03:01:54.060 That's news to me.

03:01:54.980 I didn't know that was, like, a common issue.

03:01:56.100 Yeah, the highest rates of infidelity is amongst nurses and women.

03:01:59.700 I heard that when another one said doctors was higher.

03:02:01.740 But, that was based off a study of 367 and individuals.

03:02:06.820 Well, I, I.

03:02:07.780 That's sufficient?

03:02:08.980 Well, I know that, like, alcoholism rates amongst, 367 is sufficient.

03:02:13.420 Is it, it's the case, right?

03:02:14.560 I think alcoholism among physicians, doctors, it's pretty high.

03:02:19.880 It's pretty high.

03:02:20.360 You know, it's a high, it's a high-stress job.

03:02:21.620 I mean, it's a high-stress job.

03:02:22.240 I have a lot of clients that are doctors.

03:02:24.300 You've got clients?

03:02:25.040 I have a lot of clients.

03:02:25.640 Female clients.

03:02:26.100 It's also high among.

03:02:27.780 Male clients that are doctors.

03:02:28.760 Oh, you've got male clients, too.

03:02:29.880 Okay.

03:02:30.260 Cops and firefighters, too.

03:02:31.880 Cheat a lot.

03:02:32.840 Well, any stressful job, definitely, like, rates of alcoholism and infidelity, I think,

03:02:38.220 are increased.

03:02:39.860 Lawyers drink quite a bit, so.

03:02:41.760 They just want to find something to fill that gap.

03:02:43.440 Military performers.

03:02:43.840 That's all they're doing.

03:02:44.300 Military performers.

03:02:46.020 So, red flag jobs in guys and girls.

03:02:51.080 Maybe we can go around the table on this.

03:02:52.860 Christy.

03:02:53.600 Well, everyone here obviously thinks my job is red flag jobs.

03:02:56.940 Thanks.

03:02:57.540 What?

03:02:57.980 Where'd you get that idea?

03:02:58.880 Yeah, I know.

03:02:59.940 It's nuts.

03:03:01.160 But, I mean, I obviously don't think it's a red flag job.

03:03:05.180 What is?

03:03:05.580 What would be a red flag job for me?

03:03:07.840 Yeah.

03:03:09.920 Like, a garbage man.

03:03:12.860 What?

03:03:13.160 Why?

03:03:13.960 No, that's exactly who I want to marry.

03:03:17.060 Stop it.

03:03:19.020 I was there on the mob, so I wouldn't want to marry him.

03:03:21.660 Wait, do you?

03:03:22.060 You are so wrong on this.

03:03:23.520 Wait, Alex, you wouldn't, you'd, I think it's a respect, respectful career.

03:03:27.660 No, I absolutely do.

03:03:29.700 I think the blue collar men, so that's a green flag for me.

03:03:33.160 As guys that work those really blue collar jobs.

03:03:36.340 And also, clearly you haven't looked on TikTok.

03:03:39.780 There's so many viral TikToks.

03:03:40.980 Garbage guys are so sweet with kids in the neighborhood.

03:03:43.080 The little kids always love when the garbage man comes.

03:03:44.960 They're always super caring.

03:03:46.160 They love kids.

03:03:46.860 Anyway, that is such a green flag job to me.

03:03:49.660 Because they're hardworking.

03:03:51.680 They're go-getters.

03:03:52.740 They pick up after the shit you leave behind.

03:03:55.960 Garbage man.

03:03:57.200 Well, what's like your dream man?

03:03:58.740 What does he do?

03:03:59.980 A real estate developer.

03:04:01.920 Okay.

03:04:02.300 That'd be a good guy.

03:04:03.240 I have two real estate licenses.

03:04:06.960 Why do you need two?

03:04:08.220 Because you need them for different states.

03:04:10.140 So I have New York and New Jersey, which is where I'm from.

03:04:14.080 So you need them, yeah, every state.

03:04:15.900 But I also have my interior design and architecture degree.

03:04:18.380 So you're saying of how you and your wife work together on things, like a real estate developer.

03:04:24.500 We could make a really big business together.

03:04:26.000 Wait, okay.

03:04:26.380 Let's bring it back to the conversation, though.

03:04:28.120 So garbage man is red flag?

03:04:30.560 I've never thought about it.

03:04:31.940 But yeah, I don't really see that in my future.

03:04:34.120 What about a McDonald's worker?

03:04:36.500 Like a cashier at McDonald's?

03:04:37.620 Yeah, I don't see that in my future.

03:04:38.400 I'm not saying anything bad about him.

03:04:39.660 What about a plumber?

03:04:40.460 I don't see that in my future.

03:04:42.300 Plumber?

03:04:44.440 I don't see that in my future either.

03:04:45.980 It's not, it's not, maybe it's not a red flag job.

03:04:49.380 It's just not who I see myself as.

03:04:51.520 It doesn't align with your lifestyle.

03:04:52.980 It's such a superficial attitude.

03:04:54.380 That's where all the money is, though, Christy.

03:04:55.700 The plumbers, the electricians, the welders, they're making it absolutely fake.

03:04:59.080 Yeah, I know.

03:04:59.440 I just don't see, I actually just had a plumber at my house the other day.

03:05:04.600 Was it a plumber or a plumber?

03:05:06.600 Was there a leak?

03:05:07.580 He had, he literally had to replace my toilet.

03:05:10.880 And me and my sister, like, I didn't know this was going to happen.

03:05:13.840 And my sister was visiting, and we were going to the pool, because I live in Miami.

03:05:20.000 And then he texted me, thank you for the amazing views, because he saw us leave with our bathing

03:05:25.860 suits on.

03:05:26.420 And I said, did you use my balcony?

03:05:30.080 Because, like, I have amazing views off my balcony.

03:05:32.800 But, so I did just get hit on by a plumber.

03:05:36.100 He might even watch us.

03:05:37.480 Maybe I'll send him the link.

03:05:38.640 But I, he actually, he seemed pretty cool, but I, just not, I turned it down.

03:05:44.860 I turned it down.

03:05:45.320 What about you?

03:05:46.020 Any red flag careers or jobs?

03:05:49.020 Like, any type of performer.

03:05:53.220 Performer?

03:05:53.820 Yeah.

03:05:54.440 Like, so musicians.

03:05:56.420 Musicians.

03:05:56.920 Only fans.

03:05:57.880 They, well, because they attract a lot of attention.

03:06:01.860 You don't want a guy who attracts a lot of attention?

03:06:04.760 I mean, I wouldn't say I wouldn't want one.

03:06:07.580 You're saying, you're saying they're more likely to, like, have chicks, other women around.

03:06:11.640 Okay, what about you?

03:06:12.400 Any red flag jobs?

03:06:13.120 I can't think of anything specific that's red flag, yeah.

03:06:16.300 Okay.

03:06:17.440 Any guy in the military.

03:06:20.340 Ooh, you're going to get dragged for that one.

03:06:22.020 I know.

03:06:22.700 But, y'all just have so much time to go out, and you're in another country sometimes.

03:06:27.780 For years.

03:06:28.560 You're there for years.

03:06:29.880 Like, I don't know what you're doing out there.

03:06:31.980 Oh, okay.

03:06:32.420 I hear a lot of men that are in the military end up cheating on their women back home.

03:06:37.020 I hear a lot of women who are military guys.

03:06:40.740 That's probably both.

03:06:41.400 Women for cheating on each other with each other.

03:06:44.160 Definitely will go both ways.

03:06:46.100 But they probably have an understanding, so.

03:06:48.380 I don't know about that, but Madison, any red flag jobs?

03:06:52.340 A sex worker.

03:06:54.920 Okay.

03:06:56.160 Alex?

03:06:56.560 I would say red flag jobs for me, and a guy would be anything that requires him being

03:07:01.860 like a center of attention.

03:07:03.540 So, politician running for office, actor, singer.

03:07:07.260 Podcast.

03:07:07.600 Any type of.

03:07:08.440 Yeah.

03:07:09.140 Canadian.

03:07:09.340 Because my job requires some of that.

03:07:13.460 Oh, I thought you said Canadian.

03:07:14.500 I think there would be natural competition.

03:07:17.880 I think it would be hard.

03:07:18.820 I think with my job, I do need a guy that prefers more to be, like, behind the scenes.

03:07:24.440 Not that I want him to be in that way.

03:07:27.520 I'm just saying, like, if there was a competition for attention and things like that, I think that

03:07:31.820 could be bad.

03:07:32.440 Competition for attention.

03:07:35.020 Like, bad for you?

03:07:36.000 Because you do content creation, like, you're out there, you're, like, how do you define

03:07:41.300 yourself?

03:07:41.680 Would you consider yourself, like, a political pundit?

03:07:44.020 Yeah.

03:07:44.460 Well, so I work in the conservative media space, and I host a podcast, and I do a lot

03:07:48.740 of public speaking and things like that.

03:07:50.380 So, I can just see how, if a guy was doing the same type of thing, it just might be competitive

03:07:55.380 or difficult for them.

03:07:56.880 But couldn't that be, like, power couple?

03:07:58.780 It could.

03:07:59.500 If, I'm trying to think of, like, a single conservative guy who, they're all married.

03:08:05.240 You know, like, I was thinking, like, Ben Shapiro, if he was single, would you, if he

03:08:10.100 was single, would you?

03:08:11.080 I guess potentially.

03:08:12.320 Would you go for Ben Shapiro?

03:08:13.520 It's just hard.

03:08:14.320 It would have, it would be hard.

03:08:16.160 I think that would create a more difficult.

03:08:17.740 Matt Walsh?

03:08:17.760 Is he cute?

03:08:18.920 I think Matt Walsh is super handsome, but he is married.

03:08:21.180 He is married.

03:08:21.980 He is married.

03:08:23.420 I'm trying to think of, like, Michael Knowles.

03:08:25.640 All these guys are married.

03:08:26.360 Michael Knowles is also super cute.

03:08:27.680 And also, he's married.

03:08:29.820 But one thing about Michael Knowles, he smokes cigars a lot.

03:08:33.160 And I've always said, I think that is one of the biggest turn-ons, is a guy that smokes

03:08:36.580 cigars.

03:08:37.460 Oh, I love smoking cigars.

03:08:38.040 Michael Knowles.

03:08:39.320 Maybe that's why my...

03:08:41.120 You smoke cigars?

03:08:42.400 Yeah, I do.

03:08:42.920 I think it's the cigars that you smoke in this issue.

03:08:44.760 So maybe that's why.

03:08:45.600 Not a lot.

03:08:46.380 Not often.

03:08:46.480 Do you smoke cigarettes, too?

03:08:47.780 No, no, no.

03:08:48.520 But I do like a cigar every now and then.

03:08:50.740 Okay.

03:08:51.560 Do you smoke weed?

03:08:52.600 No.

03:08:54.040 Meth?

03:08:55.180 Never done it.

03:08:56.020 Just curious.

03:08:56.580 No.

03:08:57.040 Just give it a guy.

03:08:58.080 Just about the meth.

03:08:58.600 Never done that.

03:08:59.200 Isaac, any red flag?

03:09:01.060 Uber Eats.

03:09:01.500 If they do Uber Eats...

03:09:03.280 Not Atman.

03:09:03.940 Not Atman.

03:09:04.100 I'm fucking screaming.

03:09:05.680 No.

03:09:06.400 What about just regular Uber?

03:09:08.340 Uber.

03:09:08.620 Regular Uber?

03:09:09.560 Maybe.

03:09:10.960 DoorDash.

03:09:11.440 What about DoorDash?

03:09:12.680 DoorDash?

03:09:13.460 You're in.

03:09:14.140 Grubhub.

03:09:15.720 Postmates.

03:09:16.340 Grubhub.

03:09:16.680 We don't have Grubhub in Australia, but I will...

03:09:18.700 Postmates.

03:09:19.280 We have Menulog.

03:09:20.180 You have Menulog?

03:09:20.960 No?

03:09:21.160 No.

03:09:21.860 Or a comedian.

03:09:22.940 Comedians are notorious for having extreme mental health disorders.

03:09:26.640 You're a comedian.

03:09:27.820 Yeah, they're all insane.

03:09:29.060 Although Tom Segura and Christina Paziski do it very, very well.

03:09:32.460 They're a couple goals.

03:09:33.260 They are.

03:09:33.740 They are.

03:09:34.180 So, yeah.

03:09:35.120 Anyone who is an Uber Eats delivery driver, get away from me.

03:09:39.160 Where's the game?

03:09:39.380 But why?

03:09:40.420 Why?

03:09:40.940 Yeah.

03:09:41.660 I used to deliver pizzas when I was a kid, and I stank when I came home.

03:09:46.440 I smelled like cheese and mushrooms.

03:09:48.960 I don't want my girl coming to bed smelling like cheese and mushrooms.

03:09:52.020 Well, then...

03:09:52.060 Don't argue with me.

03:09:55.160 All right?

03:09:55.380 Cheese and mushrooms.

03:09:56.060 Anybody that works in a restaurant, would that just be a turnoff for you?

03:09:59.120 Smelly, yeah.

03:09:59.880 I would say, even besides Smelly, I would say anybody who is trying to make a career out

03:10:03.420 of what is supposed to be a minimum wage job, turn off and red flag for a job.

03:10:08.260 Because those jobs are meant to be temporary.

03:10:10.460 They're not supposed to be careers.

03:10:12.000 And so, if that is your full potential as a man, that's a turnoff to me.

03:10:15.340 I was just joking.

03:10:15.760 I feel you.

03:10:17.200 I feel that too.

03:10:18.500 What if it's a...

03:10:19.360 Okay.

03:10:19.920 Because at Nordstrom, the sales association, they get commission.

03:10:24.120 So, what if their commission is really good?

03:10:27.660 Does that make a difference?

03:10:29.960 I guess it would a little bit.

03:10:31.660 But I would be really weary of commission-based jobs because then it's like your income is

03:10:36.220 never guaranteed.

03:10:37.540 Do you know what I mean?

03:10:38.440 So, during the pandemic, for example, if you're working a commission-based job, how many people

03:10:42.080 weren't able to be face-to-face and selling?

03:10:43.880 And that would just make me nervous as a mother.

03:10:45.420 There's a lot of people that have clientele who are consistently...

03:10:49.140 I know this guy.

03:10:51.600 They're making a lot of money just selling designer shoes.

03:10:55.400 Their paychecks can be close to almost $10,000 sometimes.

03:10:59.600 But it probably also depends on the market.

03:11:01.900 It depends on who it is.

03:11:03.120 Yeah, but I was just saying, would that matter?

03:11:05.160 Would that make a difference for you?

03:11:06.980 Yeah, I would be really weary of it.

03:11:08.920 I would be really weary of it.

03:11:10.580 That he could be someone that could guarantee that he could provide for me in a family.

03:11:16.120 Whatever you got to do.

03:11:17.560 Because ideally, I would like to step away and not be working full-time once I have kids.

03:11:23.580 Right.

03:11:24.320 Like, be working in a very small capacity.

03:11:26.420 So he'd have to be making a certain amount to take care of a family.

03:11:31.120 How much do you think?

03:11:33.880 What's your, like...

03:11:34.840 I think it completely depends on where in the country we're living.

03:11:38.400 If it's California, he's probably got to be making a lot more.

03:11:41.480 Are you a high earner?

03:11:42.840 Yes.

03:11:43.480 Okay.

03:11:44.340 Does your guy have to make at least as much as you or more?

03:11:48.880 No, I don't care about that.

03:11:50.720 I care whatever the number is that's going to be able to properly afford for having a family

03:11:55.640 and me being able to be a stay-at-home mom.

03:11:57.600 Okay, so you...

03:11:58.420 So if he's making $90,000 a year, but we live in Alabama, for example, then I'm fine with

03:12:02.360 that because you can afford that there.

03:12:04.200 But if he was making $90,000 a year in LA, no.

03:12:07.020 So once you start having kids, then you, like, you're fine to work now.

03:12:10.800 But once you have kids, you want him to be the sole income earner.

03:12:15.320 Is that correct?

03:12:15.900 Yeah, for sure.

03:12:16.660 I would probably work in a small capacity, speaking now and then.

03:12:20.240 Sure.

03:12:20.380 You know, if I was able to just do my podcast and that only requires, like, one to two hours

03:12:23.720 a week, then that, but I wouldn't want to be working full-time like I am now.

03:12:27.160 Can I ask, what about if they're, like, when I was a comedian, when I was coming up through

03:12:31.260 the ranks in comedy, I was making nothing.

03:12:33.820 What if they're doing that?

03:12:34.860 What if they're working in a job where, okay, they're not making much money, they're delivering

03:12:38.500 whatever, just to go against what I said, but they're working on something.

03:12:43.100 They're working on a craft.

03:12:44.360 They're trying to be an entertainer or they're working on an app or they're working on whatever.

03:12:49.100 Is that okay?

03:12:49.920 I would have said yes if I was in my early 20s and he was also in his early to mid-20s,

03:12:54.960 but now in my 30s, I wouldn't be okay with that because I wouldn't want to wait around

03:12:59.580 for him to get his stuff together.

03:13:01.040 If he's 22 and he's pursuing something like that, then yes.

03:13:03.460 And I love the idea of a girl building something with a guy from the ground up when he has nothing.

03:13:08.320 And I think he's more likely to be loyal to you when you're loyal to him when he has nothing

03:13:11.340 to offer.

03:13:12.660 It's real.

03:13:13.560 Yeah, it's real.

03:13:14.880 And I think that's what guys look for.

03:13:16.800 I think that's why guys are weary of getting with a girl once they have everything because

03:13:20.680 it's like, well, why is she actually with me?

03:13:23.020 So if you are a girl that's in a position, I can build something with a guy from the ground

03:13:26.400 up from the get-go when he is getting started like that, then that's the best position to

03:13:30.780 be in.

03:13:31.380 Sure.

03:13:31.680 Q, any red flag jobs in women?

03:13:37.460 I'll just keep it simple.

03:13:38.480 Yeah, sex work.

03:13:39.520 That's it.

03:13:40.180 That's it.

03:13:40.780 That's it.

03:13:41.620 That's it.

03:13:41.980 I have a list here of some red flag jobs in women, hairstylists.

03:13:51.020 You're not a hairstylist, right?

03:13:52.560 But I do hair.

03:13:53.380 You do hair, but you're not a hair.

03:13:55.460 You don't cut hair.

03:13:56.420 No, I don't cut hair.

03:13:57.340 See, the ones that, it's a bit, you're on the fence.

03:14:00.060 Like a female barber, is that what you're talking about?

03:14:01.420 No, no, no, like, she cuts hair.

03:14:04.380 Like, what is the background between cutting hair?

03:14:06.600 I feel like she's going to cut his hair off.

03:14:08.180 Like, no, just like, like, cause I'm doing men's hair?

03:14:12.500 You crazy.

03:14:12.940 No, no, no, no.

03:14:13.580 Not you, just like, as a woman, if you, if you're a hairstylist, you're just crazy.

03:14:18.300 Why do you think that?

03:14:19.500 It's just, it's like a, it's a thing because hairstylists, women who cut hair, have to listen

03:14:25.160 all day to other women complaining to them.

03:14:28.680 Not always.

03:14:29.620 No.

03:14:30.280 When I, well, when I do hair, I don't, I'm not really, like, we talk.

03:14:35.640 Like, we're, we're going to talk, we're going to pull up conversation.

03:14:38.660 Yeah, but you're not, you don't cut hair.

03:14:39.040 That's the thing, that's the difference.

03:14:40.180 What's wrong with having a job where women complain to them all day?

03:14:42.620 Right, you're saying, like, what's wrong with a job where women complain to them all

03:14:47.120 day?

03:14:47.360 Why, why does that make it a red flag?

03:14:49.460 It's like being a therapist.

03:14:50.660 Right.

03:14:51.580 Or a doctor.

03:14:52.200 I think a job where people complain to you all day has to be taxing to some degree.

03:14:57.560 It's not always complaining.

03:14:58.160 Honestly, I don't think people are talking, like, just from my experience, from, like,

03:15:04.480 Brayden or whatever.

03:15:05.520 Y'all never heard of this?

03:15:06.580 No.

03:15:07.120 Do you complain to your barber?

03:15:08.880 No.

03:15:09.480 Right.

03:15:09.900 So why would you think somebody is complaining that?

03:15:12.100 It gets someone to be happy in conversation.

03:15:13.020 Yeah, it's mostly happy, like, especially, especially if I don't know you and I just booked

03:15:17.480 you for the day and I'm trying to see how you're, you do it.

03:15:20.060 I'm not telling you my deepest, darkest secrets.

03:15:21.760 I think, yeah, I think it's more like the eyelash extension job.

03:15:23.780 But I'm talking about people trying to bring hair up.

03:15:25.060 I feel like that's more where we're talking.

03:15:26.360 I feel like it goes both ways because either way, I'm providing you that service, whether

03:15:30.540 I'm cutting your hair, braiding your hair, putting a wig on.

03:15:32.980 You're going to talk to me because you're in my chair for so long.

03:15:35.860 Okay, cool.

03:15:37.260 Whatever you do, it's a red flag.

03:15:41.280 It's a hairstyle, like, gentleman.

03:15:43.400 But I'm not mad at you.

03:15:45.080 I'm just trying to rebuttal it.

03:15:47.400 Like, you're not, unless you're, you got a real bond with that person.

03:15:51.460 Like, you've been going to this person for years.

03:15:53.840 I'm just saying it's a red flag.

03:15:55.100 You can try to, you can, you can try to.

03:15:57.280 I don't think so.

03:15:57.960 So it's like a nail, nail.

03:16:00.220 Yeah, like a nail tag.

03:16:01.220 Nail tag.

03:16:01.800 So they, eyelash extension.

03:16:02.960 Is that on your list?

03:16:03.860 I think anybody who's kind of in, like, the beauty industry, it's a little, you know,

03:16:10.680 it's a little, like, makeup, like a makeup artist, red flag, big red flag, hair, like

03:16:16.800 someone who cuts hair.

03:16:17.600 You guys have never heard this thing of women who cut hair.

03:16:22.120 It's, like, be careful of hairdressers.

03:16:24.140 What I'm thinking of it is different how you explained it.

03:16:27.180 Like, if I'm saying how I was thinking about it, because you said women.

03:16:31.280 I'm like, oh, because she's cutting men's hair.

03:16:33.300 She's getting men attention.

03:16:34.360 But she went, like, completely a different way.

03:16:37.180 No, it's not even that.

03:16:39.560 It's not.

03:16:40.060 Like, the whole complaining thing.

03:16:41.600 When you cut women's hair, that shit's a red flag.

03:16:45.220 Trust me on this.

03:16:46.740 Trust me.

03:16:47.480 I got some more.

03:16:48.360 I got some more jobs for you.

03:16:49.620 Works in HR.

03:16:51.380 That.

03:16:51.860 What the fuck?

03:16:52.920 If she works in HR, HR is where humanity goes to die.

03:16:56.980 I will say HR is the most toxic.

03:16:58.320 They really don't care.

03:16:59.160 It is really, it is the most toxic department of shit.

03:17:01.780 They don't care about you.

03:17:03.100 HR, terrible.

03:17:04.780 They'll be like, we agree with you, but because of company policy, this is why we have to let

03:17:10.060 you go.

03:17:10.800 They're very, they're very, like, even outside, like, I dated a chick who worked in HR, never

03:17:17.580 fucking again.

03:17:18.760 She was super feminist, just, like, very, like, oh, very triggered and offended by everything.

03:17:26.000 So HR is bad.

03:17:27.880 Flight attendant, uh-uh.

03:17:31.100 I can understand that.

03:17:32.400 Flight attendant, one, they're gone.

03:17:34.340 Two, they fuck a lot.

03:17:37.620 Every city they're in, they're, you know.

03:17:40.340 No, I actually, I can agree on that because I work at an airport and the stories between,

03:17:45.360 like.

03:17:45.460 You do hair in an airport?

03:17:46.960 No.

03:17:47.620 Huh?

03:17:48.180 No.

03:17:48.860 Hair is my side.

03:17:49.600 You work at an airport?

03:17:50.140 Hair is my side job, okay?

03:17:52.440 Oh, what's your main job?

03:17:53.480 I work at an airport.

03:17:54.540 What do you do?

03:17:55.400 A handful.

03:17:55.660 I'm, like, customer, like, I'm the person who.

03:17:57.800 Are you on?

03:17:58.520 The customer service route.

03:17:59.120 And I'm at the ticket county.

03:18:01.480 Southwest?

03:18:01.780 Like, I'm, I'm checking you in or I'm, no, no, no.

03:18:05.020 Southwest?

03:18:05.680 Delta.

03:18:06.620 Delta?

03:18:07.200 Delta.

03:18:07.700 Nice.

03:18:08.080 I'm flying Delta tomorrow.

03:18:09.900 What?

03:18:10.660 Put me somewhere good.

03:18:11.480 No, we love, we love when you guys come through.

03:18:14.780 Wait, huh?

03:18:15.980 Like.

03:18:16.440 Australia.

03:18:16.740 What do you mean?

03:18:17.240 No, no, no.

03:18:17.740 Like, like, when people come through.

03:18:20.300 No, what?

03:18:20.940 But I'm saying, no.

03:18:21.620 You're saying flight attendants.

03:18:22.320 But I'm saying, like, I work at an airport.

03:18:24.120 So, the stories that go on between, like, the pilots and the flight attendants is crazy.

03:18:29.240 And the pilots, they don't care who you are.

03:18:31.220 They're just trying to, they're just trying to smash.

03:18:34.080 I have.

03:18:34.860 For real?

03:18:35.240 Like, in the, no, like, wherever they, I don't know about the cockpit, but wherever they land.

03:18:41.160 And then also, it's like, they, they flirt with us.

03:18:44.400 They flirt with the customer service.

03:18:45.640 Like, the people who are supposed to be scanning the people on, they're flirting with us.

03:18:50.220 I've had so many.

03:18:51.680 It goes down the airport, huh?

03:18:53.180 It goes down in the airport.

03:18:54.020 And they have their own, and they have their own little lounge.

03:18:57.120 Oh.

03:18:57.640 In the airport.

03:18:58.440 Like, while they're waiting on their flight to come in so they could go.

03:19:01.320 Like, they have their own little lounge.

03:19:04.160 Here's, here's what's, look.

03:19:04.900 Here's what's going through my head when it comes to flight attendants.

03:19:07.900 How many cities have you been to?

03:19:10.180 Because here's the thing.

03:19:10.820 No, I'm not a flight attendant.

03:19:11.920 No, no, no.

03:19:12.280 I'm not talking about you.

03:19:13.060 I'm just saying, like, one of the reasons why I think it's a red flag.

03:19:15.820 If a woman's a flight attendant, and as a dude, I don't think you should date a flight attendant.

03:19:20.040 How many cities have you been to?

03:19:22.560 How many cities have you spent the night in?

03:19:24.720 Yeah, because it's a, it's a, it's a, it's not on call, but it's like, you have a whole schedule planned out already.

03:19:30.940 And at any minute, they can call you in and be like, we need you to stand in.

03:19:34.260 And so you can, you're in, say you're in flight might be LA, but last minute, they can't find a flight attendant.

03:19:41.780 You're going to Mexico or something.

03:19:43.340 It's not even so much about them being gone.

03:19:45.780 It's about like, okay, because I've been, I'm not on dating apps anymore, but I used to.

03:19:49.820 And like, I would match with flight attendants and they wanted to meet.

03:19:53.860 And I'm like, you got to be doing this shit in every single city you're in.

03:19:57.600 You're fucking the new dude.

03:19:59.140 Every single city.

03:20:00.100 How many cities are you in in a year?

03:20:02.640 A hundred.

03:20:03.220 Everyone in all those cities are seeing her Tinder too.

03:20:05.220 But no, it's an hour cap.

03:20:06.860 So like, it's a, they have certain amount of hours.

03:20:09.960 So they can't like.

03:20:11.100 What?

03:20:12.240 That they can fly.

03:20:13.340 They just can't be in the air.

03:20:14.100 They just can't be in the air.

03:20:15.080 It's like a labor law.

03:20:17.000 Like they get capped out at so many hours.

03:20:20.200 Right.

03:20:20.780 But okay.

03:20:21.960 And most of them stayed domestically.

03:20:23.840 So most, most flight attendants, they might just be from.

03:20:27.700 International travel nurses or not nurses, flight attendants, you know, look, they're in a new city.

03:20:34.000 They're always in a new city.

03:20:35.340 I'm just saying they'd be fucking in the new city.

03:20:38.140 I'm not, I'm not disputing.

03:20:39.540 I'm just.

03:20:40.300 Travel nurse.

03:20:41.140 It's like a nurse, but even worse.

03:20:45.660 We get a, we get a lot of those.

03:20:47.660 Travel, travel nurse because they, they're on assignment.

03:20:50.220 They're in a fucking city making a shit ton of money for three months.

03:20:55.040 They want some dude.

03:20:56.680 And so they've been to, they've, they've been on assignment in 12 different cities.

03:21:01.460 They done had fucked a bunch of, like a dude in every new city.

03:21:06.580 Travel nurses.

03:21:08.160 Watch out, gentlemen.

03:21:09.480 Be careful, gentlemen.

03:21:11.140 Uh, basically any career where she travels frequently, obviously sex worker, major red flag.

03:21:16.460 Sorry, Christy.

03:21:17.180 That's okay.

03:21:17.580 I would, I would never date you ever in my life.

03:21:20.140 So that's cool.

03:21:20.640 I don't date sluts.

03:21:21.840 So it's all good.

03:21:22.380 Yeah.

03:21:22.700 I don't date guys that don't pay for the first date.

03:21:25.000 I don't.

03:21:26.200 That's cool.

03:21:27.220 I mean, I know everyone.

03:21:28.400 Brian, you went in really hard with that.

03:21:31.400 Someone will go off.

03:21:32.580 You guys, yeah, if you don't pay for the first date, you're like, yeah.

03:21:34.460 If you're not paying, wait, you don't pay for the first date, Brian?

03:21:37.980 There's some circumstances where I will pay for the first date.

03:21:40.900 But isn't that a good way to weed out the, the libs and stuff?

03:21:43.700 Because I know you don't want to date a feminist lib.

03:21:45.340 And if she's like, oh, sure.

03:21:46.340 Yes, I'll pay.

03:21:47.060 Because I believe women should pay or whatever.

03:21:48.580 Like.

03:21:49.640 I think she's going to the best.

03:21:50.420 That is a, that is a fair point.

03:21:52.760 That.

03:21:53.720 Hold on.

03:21:53.960 Bender the offender donated $99.

03:21:57.080 Travel nurses are 304 S on tour.

03:22:01.060 Yeah.

03:22:01.620 Not only the stressful job, but they're traveling to their new city.

03:22:05.920 I mean, for a long-term partner, unless you're going to fucking lock her down in the two months,

03:22:11.560 six weeks, three months that she's on assignment, unless she's like, okay, I'll stick around here

03:22:17.700 and get a job.

03:22:18.180 But I don't think six weeks, eight weeks, three months is a long enough time to be dating

03:22:22.620 a chick and for her to like make the decision, okay, I really like this guy.

03:22:26.220 I'm going to stick in this city.

03:22:28.620 She's off to the next city.

03:22:30.560 So long-term, not great.

03:22:33.460 And well, even short-term, high body count.

03:22:35.500 So what were you talking about?

03:22:38.860 A liberal woman is going to be okay with you not paying.

03:22:43.060 A conservative girl or a libertarian girl is not going to be okay with that.

03:22:46.800 So if you're foregoing, not offering to pay, then you're only going to attract those girls.

03:22:50.780 Here's the thing though, is that if you do pay, liberal women are fine with that too.

03:22:59.120 Are they?

03:22:59.980 Liberal women, yeah.

03:23:00.960 Like on the first date, free dinner.

03:23:03.580 Is anyone on the panel a feminist?

03:23:06.080 Anybody?

03:23:06.740 No.

03:23:07.180 Madison, back there.

03:23:07.820 Are you a feminist, man?

03:23:12.020 Definitely is not.

03:23:14.020 Dammit, we need some, I was going to, we had one girl who was going to be on who would.

03:23:18.080 I can play a feminist.

03:23:19.420 If that'll juice everything up.

03:23:21.700 No, we don't want to like stay.

03:23:25.940 That is a good point, but I would say like, I think even liberal women, like we've had liberal

03:23:32.280 women on the show and they're like, yeah, I'd prefer for the guy paid.

03:23:35.940 So like, I don't think the paying thing is going to be, I mean, if you meet somebody

03:23:41.660 on a dating app, I think most people like will put their politics and shit.

03:23:45.520 So, uh, do they on dating apps?

03:23:48.480 Yeah.

03:23:49.120 It's the whole section.

03:23:50.600 I do too.

03:23:51.200 Wow.

03:23:52.360 And your religion.

03:23:53.760 Oh really?

03:23:54.520 Yep.

03:23:55.720 I mean, it's been a long time since I've been on Tinder.

03:23:56.880 And now they want to know if you want kids or not, but look, okay, we, we talked about

03:24:01.200 the not paying thing on the first date, Christy last show you admitted, despite your claims

03:24:07.840 to being a traditional woman, you admitted, you were like, you, you had multiple talking

03:24:12.840 stages, right?

03:24:14.920 Yeah.

03:24:15.380 Last show you had multiple talking stages.

03:24:17.380 So one of the guys, cause you asked what happened to, um, some of them, one of them

03:24:22.720 after this podcast offered me a job, cause one of the dudes you're talking.

03:24:28.140 Yeah.

03:24:28.620 And he, he offered me a job to, to be a bedroom acrobat.

03:24:33.280 He has, um, no, he has like a luxury car rental company.

03:24:38.000 So he wants me to like, kind of like be like, get him pay me to, I guess, be like a broker

03:24:44.860 to like get him luxury car clients.

03:24:48.160 Well, but you had multiple talking stage.

03:24:51.680 Yeah.

03:24:52.280 I mean, you were talking to multiple guys.

03:24:54.140 Yeah.

03:24:54.420 I was mainly talking to two people.

03:24:57.880 Like I've been on like dates before I left, um, with two people in Miami.

03:25:05.000 Okay.

03:25:06.340 So that is precisely one of the reasons they paid for everything.

03:25:10.940 That's great.

03:25:11.800 That is precisely one of the reasons why I, as a guy don't want to pay on the first date

03:25:18.340 because women are talking to multiple men.

03:25:20.540 But like, also like, do you know how much money women are spending to get like their

03:25:26.240 hair, their nails, their outfit, just to even look good for you on the first date?

03:25:30.240 That's not true.

03:25:31.460 Probably a lot more.

03:25:31.940 Because a lot of women do it themselves.

03:25:34.140 So that's.

03:25:35.000 But I mean, it does cost money to like get your nails done, get your hair done, get your

03:25:39.020 eyelashes done, makeup, et cetera.

03:25:41.420 But it's like, but you can't just expect that on a first date and expect a man to be

03:25:45.140 taking you out to like some nice ass restaurant just because you got all pretty, which is

03:25:48.780 what you do every day.

03:25:50.060 How much money should a man spend on a first date?

03:25:52.500 150 around.

03:25:53.980 I feel like a good, like if you're going to a sit down dinner.

03:25:56.440 U.S. dollars?

03:25:57.580 Yeah.

03:25:58.100 No, I think 80 to 90.

03:25:59.040 If it's like a dinner, if it's like a nice, if you're taking me to, if you're going to

03:26:02.320 dinner, like a sit down dinner.

03:26:03.100 Decent dinner and each get at least one cocktail, 80 to 90 dollars.

03:26:07.500 Yeah.

03:26:08.660 Wait, so are we arguing that it's not that much?

03:26:12.000 No, no, no.

03:26:12.840 I'm just saying if you guys like nowadays with it being so everything's so expensive now

03:26:17.320 and it's like if a guy's taking you to a restaurant like that with drinks and everything, drinks,

03:26:21.720 two entrees, appetizer, like that's a, that's going to be, that's going to be up there.

03:26:26.100 What do you think, Christy?

03:26:26.780 How much?

03:26:27.660 I go on a lot of oyster dates because I love oysters.

03:26:30.640 The oysters are eight bucks.

03:26:31.440 Me too.

03:26:32.780 I love oysters.

03:26:33.720 My favorite.

03:26:34.760 Yes, I love oysters so much.

03:26:36.040 Is that a business write-off for you?

03:26:38.900 I don't pay for it.

03:26:39.860 I don't pay for my dates ever, but yeah, I go on a lot of first dates for oysters, so

03:26:47.500 I know the bill is pretty expensive because I know oysters are expensive.

03:26:51.980 Are you chewing or swallowing?

03:26:54.100 I actually chew them and then I swallow them because I like to really like get the teeth

03:26:59.020 of the ocean.

03:26:59.620 I heard Oyster Girls are red flags because it's just the most expensive thing.

03:27:03.640 No, they taste so good.

03:27:05.320 They're so good.

03:27:06.440 And it's such a fun experience to try like every single time on the menu and like compare.

03:27:11.220 Because they're from different places, they all taste different.

03:27:13.320 Yeah, exactly.

03:27:13.640 They all taste very different.

03:27:14.960 And it's a fun activity to like talk about it and compare them.

03:27:18.400 True.

03:27:18.520 I don't know.

03:27:18.980 This whole like women do more or spend more money to get ready.

03:27:23.380 I've already made this argument before, but a lot of women say they don't wear makeup

03:27:31.060 for men.

03:27:31.840 They don't do XYZ for men.

03:27:33.720 I do.

03:27:35.980 Okay, well, some women...

03:27:37.380 I'm going to tell you that right now.

03:27:38.740 I think it depends on the situation, like where I'm going.

03:27:42.780 Like if I'm going on a date, yes, for the men.

03:27:44.720 But if I'm going out or like hanging with the girls, it's not for, you know, it's not

03:27:50.520 for the men.

03:27:52.400 I think some people just do it and not look like shit.

03:27:54.600 Or yeah, or that.

03:27:55.320 If I wake up in the morning, I just go, that's what I'm dealing with, is it?

03:27:57.940 Okay, fair enough.

03:27:59.160 Oh no, it's just like, do we just tabulate all the ways men and women prepare themselves,

03:28:03.900 not just on the day of, but throughout their entire life?

03:28:07.480 Yeah, I mean, it's like guys pay for dates, girls pay to look good for the guys who want

03:28:12.500 to take them on dates.

03:28:13.300 Yeah, but guys do things to make themselves look good on the first date too.

03:28:17.140 Yeah, but they don't spend nearly as much time or effort or money in doing it.

03:28:20.800 You're right.

03:28:21.080 You know what?

03:28:21.520 I actually agree with you.

03:28:22.720 I think women shouldn't wear as much makeup as they do.

03:28:25.720 I don't think they should be so fixated on their physical appearance.

03:28:29.220 I don't think that they should get plastic surgery and fake tits and lipo and lip fillers

03:28:33.620 and all this sort of, I agree with you on that.

03:28:35.960 Yeah, you might get a second date.

03:28:37.400 Huh?

03:28:38.140 Might get a second date, reduce the makeup and everything else that feel like we can't,

03:28:42.540 being catfishing.

03:28:43.380 How many women would be offended though if, as the guy, you said, hey, don't wear, listen,

03:28:50.080 I don't want you to wear any makeup on our date.

03:28:52.280 Don't wear any makeup.

03:28:53.660 You can maybe get, you know, take a shower or whatever, but don't wear any makeup.

03:28:57.120 Honestly, I wouldn't get offended.

03:28:58.400 Like Frankie says that all the time.

03:28:59.860 I honestly take it as a compliment.

03:29:02.320 Yeah.

03:29:02.600 Yeah, but you're dating him.

03:29:03.600 Like I'm saying like first date.

03:29:05.460 Oh.

03:29:06.120 For my first date, I didn't wear makeup.

03:29:09.200 Okay.

03:29:09.980 Me and my boyfriend, we went, we did like a sushi date.

03:29:13.080 Like this is like when we were first getting together.

03:29:15.620 Like I didn't wear makeup.

03:29:17.700 What if, but here's the thing though.

03:29:19.280 What if the guy conceivably spent more getting ready for his first date?

03:29:25.120 So then like under those circumstances should.

03:29:27.560 Well, it's not saying like we're not going to look good.

03:29:30.360 We're just not beating.

03:29:31.880 No, but I'm asking Christy.

03:29:32.980 You said, well, okay.

03:29:33.900 The guy should pay because we spend more money getting ready.

03:29:36.120 But like, let's say in some scenario, the guy actually spent more money getting ready.

03:29:40.380 I think the guy should always pay.

03:29:42.360 But I think in general, like people don't take into account that a girl is spending a lot of

03:29:47.120 time, money, and effort just to get ready for this guy for the date.

03:29:51.380 Okay.

03:29:53.540 So that's one argument.

03:29:54.720 But I will, but I also will say like, um, I get hit on the most when I'm like out in

03:30:01.160 my glasses, like not wearing makeup, like the D's, I just don't care.

03:30:05.740 And I'm just like, oh, I'm just going to go run my errands.

03:30:08.440 That's when I like get hit on the most.

03:30:10.860 Okay.

03:30:11.980 Well, you know what Drake said.

03:30:13.940 What?

03:30:14.500 Oh.

03:30:15.080 Sweatpants, hair tied, chilling with no makeup on.

03:30:16.540 Best I ever had.

03:30:18.980 Sweatpants, hair tied, chilling with no makeup on.

03:30:20.960 And that's when you're the prettiest.

03:30:22.120 I hope you don't take it wrong.

03:30:23.180 I wonder if people, I wonder if girls would agree to come on the panel sometime if it was

03:30:26.760 a all makeup free panel, if girls would agree to come on the show.

03:30:30.700 Yeah.

03:30:32.180 Maybe.

03:30:33.180 Maybe.

03:30:33.780 I don't know.

03:30:34.640 But okay.

03:30:35.120 The thing is also though, like I would totally do that, but my, I have eyelash extensions.

03:30:40.620 So like, does that count?

03:30:42.620 Because I can't, I'm not going to take care of those.

03:30:43.860 Here, let's move away from the makeup component of like paying, guys should pay for the first

03:30:48.820 date because women spend more getting ready.

03:30:51.680 I mean, the original point I made is, is you said you were in the talking stage with two

03:30:56.920 dudes and now all of a sudden you're getting back with your ex who was out of the picture.

03:31:01.920 Like this is precisely the way women move, which makes me not want to upfront fall into

03:31:07.280 the provider frame.

03:31:08.120 Like I'm not going to pay on the first date for a girl who's dating three other dudes

03:31:12.740 or who's fucking three other dudes.

03:31:14.840 Like you expect me to pay for a first date and you're fucking another dude.

03:31:18.560 Okay.

03:31:18.780 So the solution to this is to just go out for a drink.

03:31:21.900 You don't have to commit to dinner on the first night.

03:31:23.520 No, you don't even.

03:31:24.760 Yeah.

03:31:24.900 You could go to coffee.

03:31:25.760 You could get one cocktail.

03:31:26.520 I agree with that.

03:31:27.360 But even, even in that circumstance, you still, excuse me, it's tripping over my words.

03:31:32.760 You still shouldn't pay.

03:31:34.780 Even if it's a $10 drink.

03:31:38.580 Again, it's just this victim mentality.

03:31:40.320 Until I know you're not fucking another dude, I'm not paying for you on the first date.

03:31:46.380 Isn't it worth just throwing that $10 in for a drink just to work out whether or not you

03:31:50.400 like this person?

03:31:51.560 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

03:31:52.720 So for me, this is more of a principle thing.

03:31:54.700 If you, as a guy, if you want to min max your success when it comes to women, you should

03:31:59.120 pay for the first date because it's conceivable that you go on a date with a girl who's otherwise

03:32:05.700 meets your standards and she's bent out of shape because you don't want to pay for the first

03:32:09.760 date.

03:32:10.320 Uh, so min, if you want to min max as a dude, yes, you should pay.

03:32:14.620 However, for me, it's just a matter of principle.

03:32:16.700 You don't get the traditional treatment.

03:32:19.760 I'm not going to fall into my traditional gender roles with a woman who may very well

03:32:24.380 be, and this is a way a lot of women are moving and the way a lot of men are moving

03:32:27.940 to.

03:32:28.380 If you're sleeping with other men, if you're dating other men while you're talking to me,

03:32:33.160 I don't want to pay for you.

03:32:34.540 We can split.

03:32:35.700 And then when we're in a committed relationship, then we can have a conversation about traditional

03:32:39.920 gender roles.

03:32:40.480 But if you're fucking another dude, you're talking to another dude, I'm not going to

03:32:44.620 be a sucker.

03:32:45.240 I'm not going to pay for you.

03:32:46.220 I'm not, I'm like also not trying to talk to multiple people.

03:32:50.500 But you are.

03:32:51.220 But like, that's just what happens when you're dating.

03:32:54.220 Like the first guy that I was talking to, after I went on a first date with him, I want,

03:33:00.700 like I wanted, I, I wasn't like going on the apps or anything.

03:33:05.040 But when things start to progress, not as quickly, like we went on a lot of dates and then things

03:33:11.060 started to slow down.

03:33:12.240 And then I met someone out when I was wearing my glasses.

03:33:15.080 So then I went on another date with him.

03:33:16.720 But if the first guy progressed things along faster, I would have never accepted like a

03:33:21.880 date with someone else.

03:33:22.760 How many dates did you go on with the guy when you started seeing this other guy?

03:33:28.160 Three, four, five dates?

03:33:30.140 I think around like five, probably like five, I think.

03:33:33.420 How much did you, and did you guys go out to nice dinners?

03:33:36.520 Well, we went to, um.

03:33:38.180 You said the oysters and shit.

03:33:39.380 So I, so this.

03:33:40.280 How much did he spend on you?

03:33:42.680 We went to 11 and we had a table.

03:33:45.480 So, I mean, a couple grand.

03:33:48.380 This is exactly why you shouldn't pay for a girl on the first date.

03:33:51.240 But we had a great time.

03:33:53.640 And it wasn't my idea.

03:33:55.240 It was his.

03:33:56.240 Right.

03:33:56.540 But you admit to talking to multiple men.

03:33:58.720 And this is precisely the reason that I advise men to not be a sucker and not pay for

03:34:03.260 women on first dates.

03:34:04.080 This is why, this is why you guys climbed on me for saying on the first date, I say I'm

03:34:07.140 dating for marriage.

03:34:08.240 This is, so then like, look, our intentions are on the table.

03:34:10.660 You can even put that as a setting on hinge.

03:34:12.320 I'm dating for marriage.

03:34:13.960 Well, that wouldn't preclude you necessarily from date, be, uh, dating like multiple men.

03:34:20.980 Did all my.

03:34:22.360 You're like living in this set.

03:34:23.800 You're living in this state of fear.

03:34:24.940 And I'm telling you, my, look, look, all, every day, my primary audience is young conservative

03:34:30.520 women.

03:34:31.220 That's great.

03:34:31.760 Who are 25 to 35, who either are married or looking to get married, that have these traditional

03:34:36.720 values.

03:34:37.460 I'm saying I talk to these women all day, every day.

03:34:40.620 There are tons of women like this out there and you won't even take the risk to pay for

03:34:44.420 one drink to get to know these women that are everything that you're saying you don't

03:34:48.960 want.

03:34:49.480 I will be a traditional man when women return to tradition.

03:34:53.080 How can we return to tradition?

03:34:54.440 There's no traditional man to show up for.

03:34:56.660 Okay.

03:34:57.320 Well, first off, I mean, sorry, repeat, repeat your statement.

03:35:03.420 We are trying, me and so many women I know are trying to be traditional women, but there

03:35:09.780 are no traditional men to, to, to show up for.

03:35:13.300 Let me ask you a question.

03:35:14.120 So, and please don't take this the wrong way.

03:35:16.300 I mean, they're few and far between.

03:35:17.420 On your Instagram, you have bikini photos.

03:35:19.680 Yes.

03:35:20.060 If a guy you started dating came along and said, I want you to take that down, would

03:35:24.800 you?

03:35:25.600 Yes.

03:35:26.600 But you have those up on your Instagram.

03:35:30.160 Okay.

03:35:30.580 I mean, I think to me, a bikini picture isn't like, isn't a big deal.

03:35:34.660 I mean, it's, I think modesty.

03:35:37.120 A bikini picture at the pool or the beach.

03:35:39.260 I don't think that's a problem.

03:35:40.180 Modesty coincides with tradition, I would say.

03:35:42.940 Okay.

03:35:43.220 That's fair.

03:35:43.900 Then yes, I would be willing to hear it.

03:35:45.400 But I'm just saying like, like, like for me and so many other women, we're wanting

03:35:49.640 to go on dates.

03:35:50.220 We're wanting to find somebody to marry.

03:35:51.540 And then there's people like you were like, well, I'm just taking myself out of the dating

03:35:54.760 game completely.

03:35:56.340 Then what are we supposed to do?

03:35:57.880 Well, marriage minded women should not, I don't think they ought to date me.

03:36:02.100 Again, I'm, I'm open to long term.

03:36:04.000 That's fair.

03:36:04.260 That's fair.

03:36:05.120 No, I'm, I'm open to, again, monogamous long term partner.

03:36:09.580 It's, it could happen.

03:36:11.500 You never know.

03:36:12.100 I also say I have very, I think I literally have like one bikini picture on Instagram.

03:36:16.320 I have hardly any.

03:36:17.840 I don't know.

03:36:18.400 I didn't do a deep dive.

03:36:19.180 I saw a couple.

03:36:21.460 Yeah.

03:36:21.580 I think one.

03:36:22.380 I saw a couple, maybe a slight, look, it's not, it's not the fucking crime of the century,

03:36:26.720 but like guys, it's like, I think these girls be posting Bible verses in their fucking Instagram

03:36:35.780 and they got bikini, like really revealing like bikini photos.

03:36:39.920 And it's like, look, some guys don't mind, but it's like, it's not really traditional.

03:36:46.160 Now, when it comes to paying for the first date, like again, we had Christie here.

03:36:50.140 She admits, I mean, she, you know, she's dating multiple men.

03:36:53.760 I've been on dates with women where I, I, I'll ask them.

03:36:56.980 I'm like, Hey, cause I'm pretty upfront about that.

03:36:59.100 I'm like, Hey, are you seeing other guys?

03:37:00.460 And a lot of women, some, some aren't always upfront, but some are.

03:37:05.560 And like even average unremarkable women, I was on a date.

03:37:10.720 This was a couple of years ago, met her on hinge.

03:37:13.220 She had just downloaded the app three days prior.

03:37:18.160 Well, she had just down.

03:37:19.840 Sorry guys.

03:37:20.280 There's some sound outside.

03:37:21.100 But she had just downloaded the app three days in.

03:37:25.140 I think I went on a date with her on her fourth date after having had the app.

03:37:28.760 She had already been on two dates.

03:37:30.840 And then she said she had two dates planned for the weekend.

03:37:34.500 And I'm like, at that point, I've just lost all interest.

03:37:37.520 Well, that was super dumb on her part.

03:37:39.460 No, it's not.

03:37:40.760 Well, I don't know.

03:37:41.560 She's dating as a job.

03:37:43.220 Oh, it's dumb that she revealed it to me or dumb that she's doing that.

03:37:46.800 I mean, both, but like very stupid to stay on a date.

03:37:49.820 Like I've got some other guys lined up after you.

03:37:51.880 Right.

03:37:52.120 Yeah.

03:37:52.320 But that's, that's being honest because as a guy, I don't want to deal with a girl that's

03:37:57.020 dating other dudes.

03:37:57.980 It's very easy to be dating one person at a time.

03:38:01.120 And if you're serious as a guy or well, it's just weird to me to want that standard from

03:38:05.280 a girl, but you're not willing to date for marriage yourself.

03:38:08.300 It's just how you are.

03:38:09.420 You're basically expecting her to be dating for marriage.

03:38:11.380 Like only talking to one person at a time.

03:38:13.380 Hold on.

03:38:13.700 But, but you, you're confusing commitment with marriage.

03:38:16.080 You can be committed to one person and not get married.

03:38:18.920 You can be monogamous and not get married.

03:38:21.140 You can have kids and not get married.

03:38:23.280 Yeah.

03:38:23.440 You can have a lifelong partner and not get married.

03:38:27.100 That's true.

03:38:27.640 I'm just saying on the dating, I'm just saying when it comes to being on a first date, I mean.

03:38:32.860 Will you just marry someone already?

03:38:34.200 I'm not going to.

03:38:35.160 I'm not going to do it.

03:38:35.880 And buy me a fucking drink.

03:38:36.860 I'm not going to do it.

03:38:37.540 It's a first date.

03:38:38.840 So, sorry.

03:38:39.680 Like in your ideal situation, are you saying that they should not even set up another date

03:38:43.720 until they've either gone on enough dates with you to either say this is a yes or no?

03:38:50.920 Sorry.

03:38:51.340 Could you repeat that?

03:38:52.180 Sorry.

03:38:52.620 Yeah.

03:38:52.780 Because most people, when they're using dating apps, they're, you know, talking to multiple

03:38:56.760 people and then some become dates, some don't.

03:39:00.660 So, you're saying that you don't want to be on a first date with a girl.

03:39:05.960 You don't want the date, you don't want the girl who you're on a first date with to also

03:39:08.560 be dating other guys.

03:39:10.040 So then.

03:39:10.660 There's degrees to it.

03:39:11.460 I think there's a difference between going on dates with multiple guys.

03:39:14.540 Like if you're single and it's your first date, obviously you've gone on dates with

03:39:17.060 other people, been sleeping with multiple guys.

03:39:19.060 Yeah, there's degrees to it, right?

03:39:21.040 So, like, do I find it as a, like if a girl went on a date the week prior and she's got

03:39:27.960 a, I mean, I probably would object if she's going on a date with me and she's got a date

03:39:33.000 planned for the day after, but there's degrees to it.

03:39:38.660 So, if she's sleeping with another guy and she's going on a date with me, no, that's a

03:39:46.640 no-go for me.

03:39:47.620 So, would you say, for you, is there a difference between sleeping with other guys versus dating

03:39:52.600 other guys, like going on multiple first dates to see who they want to commit to?

03:39:58.600 There's degrees to it.

03:39:59.860 Like, if there's, obviously I recognize, like, if she's single and we just met, there's

03:40:05.820 potentiality for crossover.

03:40:07.720 Yeah.

03:40:08.480 However.

03:40:09.120 So, I think what she's kind of saying is that, say she has three dates lined up, she

03:40:13.440 hasn't slept with anyone, whenever you don't pay for the drink, you're sort of out of the

03:40:19.600 competition, you know?

03:40:21.000 She's giving no hope to the potential for a relationship.

03:40:23.760 She's like, oh, I don't know.

03:40:24.380 I'm just like, she's got three other, yeah, exactly.

03:40:27.260 She's got three other dates lined up.

03:40:28.980 I'm not interested.

03:40:29.580 I don't, like, nah.

03:40:31.180 I don't usually have dates lined up.

03:40:32.780 So, then you're saying that you want her to go on a first date, go on a second date,

03:40:36.600 maybe third date, she's unsure, stop dating you, then start dating someone else.

03:40:41.460 What do you mean?

03:40:42.780 So, I think it's, I think it's pretty easy to date one person at a time.

03:40:47.740 I think that is the best way for women to maneuver.

03:40:51.900 Is it just, and I suppose, uh, you know.

03:40:53.860 Is it just, like, the dating thing that throws you off, like, the dates, or is it, like, in

03:40:59.180 the back of your head, you're like, oh, I know you're about to go smash him?

03:41:02.560 Well, you never know.

03:41:03.580 Like, even, she might not even be honest.

03:41:07.060 Like, a lot of people aren't going to be honest about, you know, if they're seeing other

03:41:10.340 people up front on the first date.

03:41:12.560 So, the way, the way that I know people move, especially here in Southern California, they're

03:41:19.680 fucking, they're fucking one, two, three other people.

03:41:24.000 That's what I have to assume going in.

03:41:25.960 So, like, that's my hesitation for paying for the first date.

03:41:28.340 No offense, but it just sounds kind of cheap.

03:41:30.200 Like, is it really that big of a deal to pay for someone's coffee?

03:41:33.640 But couldn't you say, couldn't you direct that question to women?

03:41:36.580 I mean.

03:41:37.020 If it's, if it's, are women cheap?

03:41:39.880 People are cheap, are women cheap, but are women cheap?

03:41:43.380 Because they.

03:41:43.920 But that's, like, us saying that we're going to go and take care of this guy on the first,

03:41:47.080 like, we're going to go, we're going to cook dinner for him on the first date.

03:41:50.780 I would have.

03:41:51.380 I actually think that's a good idea.

03:41:52.500 Yeah, that's fine.

03:41:54.000 No, because then you're inviting a guy over.

03:41:55.940 But that's safety issue.

03:41:57.740 Well, it doesn't have to be at your place.

03:42:00.360 It could be at his.

03:42:01.540 No, I wouldn't want to go to some guy's house on the first date.

03:42:04.300 I mean, never say never.

03:42:05.880 Not to date, but, like, could.

03:42:07.360 I didn't say that, I said I don't want to.

03:42:08.840 I don't want to go to a guy's house.

03:42:10.100 Hey, if she's down.

03:42:10.920 You could do it in, like, your, maybe, like, your apartment building, if there's, like,

03:42:14.520 a common area, some of the kitchens, like, maybe.

03:42:16.980 The common area?

03:42:18.080 I don't know.

03:42:19.120 I had a local campsite.

03:42:21.100 But would you accept that as a first date?

03:42:23.220 I don't know.

03:42:23.560 Yeah.

03:42:23.660 Like, a home-cooked meal?

03:42:25.400 I would accept that as a first date.

03:42:26.800 You shouldn't have someone come to your house that you don't know.

03:42:30.000 Yeah, like, I would cook for someone.

03:42:31.980 I would take the time to, like, do that for someone.

03:42:34.460 I would do that, too, but it'd have to be, like, a third or fourth date.

03:42:36.900 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

03:42:38.220 Just because it's dangerous to, like, have someone you don't know, like, over your house.

03:42:41.960 I agree.

03:42:42.360 Look, I don't know.

03:42:43.140 I think, are women ever really truly single?

03:42:46.720 Hmm?

03:42:48.260 Are they ever truly single?

03:42:49.600 There's always some dude in the picture.

03:42:53.020 There's always some dude in the picture.

03:42:54.620 They've got a fuck buddy.

03:42:55.540 They've got somebody they're sleeping with.

03:42:56.800 And then they meet someone, and then they're like, oh, I like this person a lot more.

03:43:01.340 And then they start giving them their attention.

03:43:03.880 But here's my position.

03:43:05.500 But just, like, being single in the wild, you're always talking to people.

03:43:07.920 Here's my position.

03:43:08.920 I don't even want to pursue a girl if she's sleeping with another guy.

03:43:13.200 If I know you're sleeping with another guy, that's a wrap for me.

03:43:17.240 I don't want to go on a date with you.

03:43:18.780 I don't want to pay for a first date.

03:43:20.060 I don't want to hold your hands.

03:43:21.500 I don't want to kiss you.

03:43:22.560 Then really, the girls are looking for it.

03:43:23.140 It's a wrap.

03:43:23.680 It's going to be in the church, but you don't want to pursue marriage.

03:43:26.520 Hold on just a sec.

03:43:28.380 Isaac, didn't know you were going to be a guest on the show.

03:43:31.860 I'm a huge fan.

03:43:33.540 Tell these women what a good woman is and what a good man wants in a good woman.

03:43:38.240 Love your content, Isaac, and you too, Brian.

03:43:40.680 I'll tell you about women.

03:43:41.600 Thank you, Max, Zach.

03:43:43.540 Yeah, I don't know.

03:43:45.340 I'll go back to the best friend thing.

03:43:46.600 I think you can really figure out a lot about a person.

03:43:48.600 I think for a first date, go for a walk.

03:43:50.240 If you don't want to spend any money and you don't want to commit yourself financially,

03:43:52.760 go and do something like that.

03:43:54.320 Then over time, these things will sort themselves out.

03:43:58.660 The whole thing about having three or four dates lined up,

03:44:01.540 I think for a man, that feels very, I don't know, just feels shit.

03:44:04.880 You don't want to feel shit going into a date.

03:44:05.660 I actually love the walk idea.

03:44:07.740 I've actually had a couple first dates where we take my dog for a walk

03:44:12.100 and you can just conversate with someone.

03:44:15.140 Is that a you?

03:44:16.180 Why are you laughing, Kim?

03:44:16.360 That's honestly a great idea.

03:44:19.020 I love taking my dogs for walks.

03:44:20.640 Is this a euphemism?

03:44:21.500 What do you do?

03:44:22.060 No.

03:44:22.920 I'm fine with that idea.

03:44:25.280 With what?

03:44:25.620 If you are going for a walk date, that's fine.

03:44:29.020 She just said she...

03:44:30.320 But if you are going to go to a date that you have to spend money,

03:44:33.820 then it's like the guy should pay.

03:44:35.180 But if the guy doesn't want to, then come up with a creative date like going for a walk.

03:44:39.480 Q, what you got for us?

03:44:40.520 Just the fact that she said, take my dog for a walk.

03:44:43.940 Like, how is that a date?

03:44:49.000 Wait.

03:44:50.060 Why can't we take my dog?

03:44:52.020 If you're going on the walk anyway.

03:44:54.160 Is it the duration that it takes as long for your dog to shit?

03:44:57.320 No.

03:44:58.040 Like, go for a nice walk.

03:44:59.020 I live in Miami.

03:44:59.840 There's so many.

03:45:00.660 I don't want to, like, give away Miami.

03:45:01.620 Hold on.

03:45:01.640 Vex Azul 69 donated $99.

03:45:05.380 This is for Singh Dynasty.

03:45:07.140 What?

03:45:07.440 What are your thoughts on math couples?

03:45:09.360 Also, want to take you to Mamalu's in Monterey Park for Xiao Long Bao.

03:45:15.000 You can check if I have CTE.

03:45:17.340 Yeah, I train with UFC fighters.

03:45:19.660 No big deal.

03:45:20.660 I always get KTFO, but it's worth it.

03:45:23.440 Man shrugging.

03:45:24.860 Why is he talking about dim sum?

03:45:28.340 I think this is directed at you.

03:45:31.460 Okay.

03:45:31.780 Yeah, let's bring it back up.

03:45:36.580 That's a good idea.

03:45:38.460 He's just saying, what is WMAF couples?

03:45:42.160 Women, men?

03:45:43.560 I have no idea.

03:45:44.420 I have no idea.

03:45:45.240 I don't know.

03:45:46.600 She's in a relationship.

03:45:48.900 He asks if you can check if he has CTE since you're a neurologist.

03:45:53.060 Oh, that's chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

03:45:55.380 That's basically like concussions, like brain injury after multiple concussions.

03:45:58.460 You can't diagnose it until it's after death, right?

03:46:00.780 Yeah.

03:46:01.200 That's what I'm like.

03:46:01.700 You're talking about IC?

03:46:03.620 Sorry?

03:46:04.020 If you have a concussion?

03:46:06.240 Wait.

03:46:06.720 After?

03:46:07.760 Yeah.

03:46:08.220 Sure.

03:46:08.460 After the podcast.

03:46:09.220 I do love Xiaolong Ba, though.

03:46:10.840 He did mention that.

03:46:11.740 So, Isaac does have to take off here in a couple minutes.

03:46:15.880 We're going to react to a quick video.

03:46:17.440 Quickly, before we react to the video, Alex, we were having a little back and forth.

03:46:21.860 You were saying that I need to find a woman in the church.

03:46:25.140 Is that correct?

03:46:25.540 So, I'm saying that the standards that you're looking for, like this idea.

03:46:28.760 To just not pay on the first date?

03:46:30.500 No.

03:46:30.820 There's plenty of those that are freaking soon.

03:46:31.920 It's like, I don't want a girl that's like sleeping with a bunch of different dudes and all this different.

03:46:35.600 I'm saying like the standards that you're wanting, like this loyal woman, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know.

03:46:39.420 Like, all of that, I think you would find.

03:46:42.360 Just the list of things that you want.

03:46:44.880 It's really not a huge list.

03:46:46.900 Without it being a liberal.

03:46:47.560 I'm just saying.

03:46:48.060 Because otherwise it is going to be a liberal.

03:46:49.260 And not being a lib and all that kind of stuff.

03:46:52.080 Or just like a woman.

03:46:53.140 She could be apolitical.

03:46:54.200 She could be moderate.

03:46:55.480 Okay, fine.

03:46:56.060 But I'm saying that that type of woman likely is going to be found in a church.

03:47:00.720 And I'm saying, so the ideal woman that you're looking for with all these characteristics, she's probably wanting marriage.

03:47:06.780 It's like you're looking for a unicorn.

03:47:08.800 This woman that's like super loyal, doesn't do this, but doesn't want to get married.

03:47:13.020 I disagree.

03:47:14.000 I think there's plenty of.

03:47:15.800 Maybe in the tech space.

03:47:17.200 But like, I feel like the type of woman you're describing could maybe be found in tech.

03:47:21.460 But do you think I'm like.

03:47:22.600 How many first dates do you go on?

03:47:25.100 None.

03:47:26.160 Yeah, how many dates do you.

03:47:27.480 Like, how many first dates do you go on?

03:47:29.060 What's the ratio?

03:47:31.140 What's the ratio?

03:47:32.320 Like, how many in a month?

03:47:34.020 Out of a month, how many do you go on?

03:47:36.800 Okay, so ever since I started the podcast, because I've been super busy with work.

03:47:40.620 So I started the podcast like a year and a, when I, about a year ago.

03:47:45.840 I really haven't been dating.

03:47:49.640 I went on a couple dates here and there.

03:47:52.120 Previously, when I'm single, I'd maybe do two or three dates a month.

03:47:58.240 Maybe.

03:47:58.560 Do any of them, like, have a problem when you say you're not going to pay?

03:48:03.420 When I'm not going to pay?

03:48:04.460 Yeah.

03:48:04.880 Like, do you ever get backlash for that?

03:48:07.380 Or they're all just really cool with it?

03:48:08.840 Most of them are fine with it.

03:48:12.040 Yeah.

03:48:12.480 Have you ever thought about looking for a girl in church?

03:48:16.760 No.

03:48:17.240 I'm not waiting until marriage.

03:48:19.140 So, like, if she's super strict when it comes to the church stuff, then, nah.

03:48:24.040 Not for me.

03:48:24.660 See, this is what I'm saying.

03:48:26.120 But I think the girl that you kind of know, the red pill, I just feel like besides the marriage.

03:48:30.000 I'm really not asking that much.

03:48:30.720 No, besides the marriage part.

03:48:31.700 I just don't want a chick that's a hoe.

03:48:33.380 Yes.

03:48:33.740 I'm not asking that much.

03:48:35.320 Red pill guys.

03:48:36.780 The red pill guys want a traditional woman, but they do not want to step up and be a traditional man themselves.

03:48:42.320 Who wants to wait until marriage to have sex?

03:48:44.320 That's the most important part of it.

03:48:45.760 Well, not the most important part of it.

03:48:46.680 It's very important to get...

03:48:48.240 You've got to get your rocks off.

03:48:49.360 No, you don't.

03:48:49.920 It's like buying a car.

03:48:51.520 You can't just buy it sight unseen.

03:48:53.000 You've got to take it for a test drive.

03:48:53.920 When you learned to ride a bike, did you have to learn on a whole bunch of different bikes, or did you learn on one bike?

03:48:57.860 I started with training wheels.

03:48:59.300 Okay.

03:48:59.740 But the same bike.

03:49:00.560 You've got to took the training wheels off.

03:49:03.080 And if you're waiting until you're married to have sex, it's probably going to be not as great.

03:49:07.920 It's going to be terrible.

03:49:08.980 It's going to be awful.

03:49:09.640 Your wedding night is going to suck dicks.

03:49:11.300 Hymens will be broken, and hearts will also be broken.

03:49:14.440 I need to go.

03:49:15.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:49:17.440 Time for the video or not?

03:49:18.640 It's cool.

03:49:19.140 Hey, dude.

03:49:19.580 Thank you for coming, man.

03:49:20.320 Appreciate it.

03:49:21.020 Nice to meet you.

03:49:21.540 It's a pleasure.

03:49:22.180 Thank you very much.

03:49:23.140 Guys, guys, go sub to his channel.

03:49:25.280 He's got a kid.

03:49:26.120 He's got to go take off.

03:49:27.160 Isaac.

03:49:28.760 All good, man.

03:49:29.620 Hey, thank you for coming.

03:49:30.360 Thank you for coming.

03:49:31.860 Okay.

03:49:32.320 So, actually, can we take this?

03:49:36.140 No.

03:49:36.980 Can someone put the mic just on the ground, maybe by his?

03:49:40.400 It's number three, Nick.

03:49:41.800 Yeah, we have a little more space here.

03:49:45.040 Yeah, it's fine.

03:49:47.720 See, here's the thing when it comes to tradition, and maybe this is, I don't know, the OnlyFans

03:49:53.240 thing, that's, okay.

03:49:55.200 I don't think you, like, when it comes to being traditional or wanting a bit more traditional,

03:50:03.060 I don't think it has to be all or nothing.

03:50:06.360 And it quite clearly isn't all or nothing, because we can make the argument.

03:50:09.300 But then why is everyone saying, I'm not traditional?

03:50:11.600 Zip it.

03:50:12.140 Zip it.

03:50:13.140 Zip it.

03:50:13.620 Good, Christy.

03:50:14.740 Zip it good.

03:50:15.540 Okay.

03:50:16.340 So, how many women who, like, you can make the argument that in order for a woman to

03:50:25.140 be traditional she needs to be a virgin right you can make that argument but like are you a virgin

03:50:30.820 no are we gonna sit here like but you're still a traditional woman right yes but you're not a

03:50:38.060 virgin so and in the same way like i and i don't know if i even really consider myself all that

03:50:44.780 traditional uh but is a guy not paying for the first date is that like the epitome of being

03:50:53.140 non-traditional but i just i think it sets the standard to to to pay for a girl that's fucking

03:50:58.720 another guy i'm not i'm not prepared to do that i'm not prepared but she could be she could be

03:51:06.360 but like right you said you had two to three dates a month whenever you were dating so then before you

03:51:12.800 said you don't want to date a girl who has other dates lined up so did you line up each of those

03:51:16.820 dates after the you stopped dating one girl uh i mean typically i would typically like the way i was

03:51:24.320 it depends but i would typically pursue one girl at a time uh but like again there's degrees to it

03:51:33.620 you know there's degrees yeah there's degrees but that's why i'm saying sleeping with multiple other

03:51:39.720 people are different than having multiple dates lined up like that is sort of just like a practical

03:51:44.680 thing that happens when you're using dating apps you can scoot over this way a little bit if you

03:51:48.460 want um it it's uh wait okay just because she's going on first dates doesn't mean she's like having

03:51:56.340 sex with anyone at all right but again there's degrees to it but if you're going on like probably

03:52:02.180 by the time you went on like six seven dates you're probably not going on first dates with other

03:52:07.400 people or at least i wouldn't be unless the rhythm slowed down and you're like you know this guy's

03:52:14.000 clearly not serious you're gonna it's not gonna get anywhere so then you start going on first date

03:52:18.880 again dates again q do you play for do you pay for first dates yeah and i i don't think that's wrong

03:52:26.360 like i think i was just wondering i think but it's not i don't think about it in the sense that he's

03:52:30.140 thinking about it and then most of the time like women have even paid for my first dates so um to me

03:52:35.840 it's more so it doesn't really matter to me because i'm really good at discerning what type of woman

03:52:42.600 i'm dealing with so i'm confident in that so if i know i'm dealing with a woman who's i thought i

03:52:47.860 don't even take her on a date like i won't take a thought on a date can i ask you a question though

03:52:52.100 have you ever dated a woman who on the surface she was seemed innocent seemed unassuming she

03:53:00.860 seemed a certain way but in actuality she moved very differently have you ever encountered a woman

03:53:06.920 like that um probably early on in like 21 but not since like just learning psychology and just

03:53:15.280 dealing with women i'm just really good at discerning which women are which women sure so so it's easier

03:53:19.800 for me to tell yeah and look again to the men watching if you want to min max your success when

03:53:25.780 it comes to dating you should pay for the first date however for me it's just like plus i kind of like

03:53:31.920 when a girl simps you know what i'm saying i just think you're prohibiting like a lot of good girls

03:53:38.560 that could have come into your life because you're going in with that mentality that's what i'm saying

03:53:42.240 i'm saying you're like exactly the red flag that you're telling men to avoid women yeah like you are

03:53:48.340 the girl version of what you're allegedly trying to avoid why don't you get a girl and change her

03:53:52.540 you know but i i don't see what what is wrong with wanting a woman to equally contribute

03:53:57.840 to the start of a relationship nothing but i think it is it's it it is tradition for a guy to

03:54:04.040 want to pursue the woman and i think that first date why not the second oh i'll pursue to pay i

03:54:07.960 think second although it's nice if she pursue i just think first just like with taking a guy's last

03:54:11.780 name and all that kind of stuff i think it is a good thing it's a it's a good act of faith for the

03:54:17.120 guy to pay first date and then yes second date she can offer to pay let's go for ice cream or whatever

03:54:21.680 like she offers third date maybe she cooks for him or whatever but then there's no guarantee of a

03:54:27.680 second date how many how many well you'll you'll know before the date is over if you want to

03:54:33.800 how many of the women that you like go on another one on first dates with how many of them actually

03:54:38.820 wanted a second date how many of the first dates are um yeah well it's funny you laugh

03:54:46.760 uh i would say like first dates i think it was like 50 i think okay 50 and how did how did you

03:55:02.540 guys proceed after what do you mean like did you did she pay for the second date did you pay for the

03:55:09.020 second date well see i i wasn't really paying for the first date ever really i've paid occasionally

03:55:14.740 on the first date no no once you went on the second date so you didn't pay on the first date

03:55:18.100 the women who wanted a second date were fine with that i'm assuming they were okay with that yeah

03:55:23.780 so you went on the second date so what happened the second date well okay second date i mean

03:55:30.800 she's coming to my place you know what i mean

03:55:34.940 what's your body what's your body count oh i'm a man of god i don't reveal that well she's coming

03:55:42.700 to your place the second date what do you mean i'm not waiting until marriage i know but wait did

03:55:48.700 you did you ever answer what your body count was yesterday no i'm a man of god i don't share that

03:55:53.540 yeah yeah but she's coming to your place the second date yeah why not a little bit like well

03:55:57.660 you've never you're doing the dirty never say never i think your ratio is like higher than mine

03:56:04.800 my ratio yeah what do you mean i mean i i don't go to guys houses on second date

03:56:11.480 do you think do you think that you have the highest body count at this table yeah just me

03:56:18.980 just like just like do you think that's what's your body count q what's your body count uh six six

03:56:26.260 what three triple digits no but we but we agree that the ratio is the same i think you do get

03:56:32.400 like probably yo the ratio is bullshit though the ratio is bullshit it is bullshit sorry brian

03:56:39.480 i have to go no kelly you're breaking my heart i have school breaking my heart

03:56:44.320 okay wait eight in the morning you could stay for another

03:56:49.460 hour hour no big deal it's no big deal this is 9 a.m 9 p.m sorry i know and then that means i have

03:57:00.320 school in like it's all good if you know if you gotta take off it's fine it's fine um okay i'll see

03:57:06.600 you guys all right another one bites the dust another one bites the dust um okay so what what was the

03:57:17.060 question um your body count she's shaking her head i think you asked him like a question

03:57:25.500 nick i put the mic on the ground and you and you said something about the ratio oh you're right yeah

03:57:30.660 the ratio okay so you're saying like the written but you're saying okay your whole thing with body

03:57:35.680 count is well it's the ratio it's how many people want to sleep with you and you say no to kind of

03:57:41.760 right yeah it's about the opportunities that you're taking so yeah like if 12 people wanted

03:57:47.080 to sleep with you and you took 12 opportunities that's a lot sluttier than if 100 people want

03:57:53.340 to sleep with you and you took 12 opportunities okay perhaps if you're comparing but when it comes

03:58:02.740 to body count it's it's a little different but because the number like a not one number if we both

03:58:08.900 say three but you've only had three opportunities and i've had 10 three might sound like it's

03:58:16.360 completely different you know or if i say i reject i reject your ratio thing here's why

03:58:21.440 let me let me explain your mind is at least thinking i can tell you let me know it's logical but i'm

03:58:28.860 thinking about desirability because if you're a woman you're going to get more opportunities but

03:58:33.660 you're also more selective as a woman yeah so whereas a man if you get more opportunities you

03:58:38.820 probably take more because you're right which is sluttier so but it's so it's not about the number

03:58:44.180 well okay here's when it comes to the ratio though let's say also does it matter what age you had

03:58:51.680 sex okay hold on let me finish my point okay when it comes to the ratio let's say somebody a woman

03:58:58.060 has slept with one guy but her ratio sucks like let's say it's she only had one opportunity let's

03:59:06.260 say she had 10 i don't know she slept with one guy versus a woman who slept with a hundred guys

03:59:11.860 but she's had a million opportunities you're are you are you going to do the math on it are you about

03:59:19.260 to are you prepared to argue that the woman who slept with one man is sluttier than the woman who slept

03:59:25.760 with a hundred okay so how many opportunities did she get okay the she got 10

03:59:32.200 wait we're in those example numbers a hundred a hundred to a million

03:59:38.920 yeah i mean it's not my fault that she so no but the girl the girl who slept hold on hold on the girl

03:59:49.060 who slept with a hundred people if she's had a million opportunities technically her ratio is

03:59:55.380 better than the girl who slept with one guy who's had 10 opportunities so your whole ratio thing is

04:00:03.180 is bogus no it's not but the thing is like okay so you're saying so so if it's not so if it's the other

04:00:10.600 day okay but so you're saying that hold on let me ask you a question the girl that slept with a

04:00:15.980 hundred men who had a million opportunities is less slutty than the girl who's only slept with one

04:00:21.960 guy according to your ratio they'd be pretty equal to be honest equal yeah a girl who slept with a

04:00:29.780 hundred men is equal to a girl who slept one yeah i can't bro it is sends sends she might have only

04:00:39.360 slept with one but like hold on she didn't get that many opportunities send the missile

04:00:43.400 she didn't get that many opportunities i have just i have sent a nuclear missile to this podcast studio

04:00:52.880 you're saying the woman who's okay you're saying the woman you have to just do the map on it

04:01:00.800 okay how about a woman with a who slept with a thousand a woman slept with a thousand people out

04:01:07.840 of a million out of a billion she's had a billion that's not a lot when you do the math

04:01:13.320 on it though i mean the guys next to me before we're at 600 he's saying regardless that's a lot

04:01:22.100 of bodies regardless i know you everyone hates the ratio the ratio doesn't make sense i can't believe

04:01:27.280 i wasn't ratio christy and not and i was raspy you're raspy crispy but i know because that's more

04:01:33.740 of a diss but i i think it should be ratio christy i can't even i'm gonna my next job is gonna be a

04:01:40.240 mathematician actually since everyone wants me to shut my own hands down so badly i'm gonna change

04:01:46.360 careers to mathematics okay we have bender the offender here did i already read this blue collar

04:01:53.540 workers are not as valued anymore and it truly breaks my heart because those men keep the country

04:01:58.440 running very true instead people in today's society value women who do sex work and value

04:02:03.920 their career over a husband based very true bender the offender very true i'm not against blue collar

04:02:11.020 jobs at all i just um don't see my well i'm engaged and he doesn't have a blue collar job but i i don't go

04:02:19.360 really out on dates with people in that um yeah i just i just don't go out on dates with blue collar jobs

04:02:29.700 your your ratio thing only works if you're comparing a woman like women who have equivalent

04:02:36.040 body counts in those circumstances your ratio thing you can make the argument that it makes

04:02:42.480 somewhat sense in that context however you cannot make the argument that a woman with a higher body

04:02:48.540 count it like compared to a woman with a lower body count because of the ratio there's also things

04:02:56.100 that has to have to do with it like your age and how old you are like obviously if there's a girl

04:03:01.940 that's 33 or a guy that's 33 and someone that's 23 and 33 and they've been single for the same amount

04:03:09.740 of time like they're gonna have like more opportunities or if someone's been a very very long-term

04:03:15.760 relationship and someone has it like they're gonna have different opportunities so you there's just more

04:03:21.460 that goes into it than just being able to say one body count number because it's gonna sound like

04:03:26.980 one might sound high and one might sound low but you have to look more erroneous erroneous he says

04:03:34.080 erroneous i think it's you guys are running the show all right bender the offender side note i work

04:03:39.940 in a steel mill when christy said that men who work blue collar jobs is a red flag i was thinking don't

04:03:46.020 you support trump and he supports the blue collar man i'm not against she just doesn't i'm not i just

04:03:50.900 don't think like i i just i mean i don't know what you look like if you have really long blonde hair

04:03:57.460 with a man bun um i would consider it i just don't see it i don't see it in my future

04:04:04.500 you're i love lawn your type is a guy with long blonde hair and a man bun yeah oh okay yeah that's my

04:04:13.380 favorite thing ever ever like ever like the long blonde hair gets me but not in a liberal way not

04:04:20.820 in a scrawny way we're going to react to the videos and then we're going to wrap up the show um

04:04:24.740 nick can you pull up the first video please

04:04:33.540 i think it's just uh the video

04:04:38.100 i think it's a tick tock yeah it's the woman

04:04:43.380 here's what to say to a man who cares about your body count i saw a video the other day where a guy

04:04:49.300 was asked whether he thinks body count matters that a woman he's about to date to which he responded

04:04:53.060 if a girl is ran through then she's for everybody else i kind of feel like guys want girls for

04:04:57.060 themselves we care about women's body count because we want them to be all for ourselves

04:05:00.740 we don't want them to be any other guy we want to provide for them we want to be the man in their

04:05:04.660 world and then he went to go on and say that zero was his ideal body count for a woman because

04:05:09.060 she gotta be a virgin i gotta take that ish and show her what it's about because she's going to be

04:05:12.660 mine at the end of the day my dearest man child what you're describing here is the fact that you

04:05:16.420 see women as objects that you can have all for your little self because the reality is your concern

04:05:20.420 with your body count shows how little faith you have in yourself that you'll measure up to any of

04:05:24.020 the men she's been with before you a woman who's never been with another man can't find you

04:05:27.460 disappointing in or out of bed because she has no one to compare you to and while i think it's admirable

04:05:31.540 that you think you want to provide for a woman and be the man in her world i think what you mean

04:05:35.300 is that you want her to think that you're the only one who can provide for her because that's how you

04:05:38.660 control her because you're not secure enough in yourself to be with a woman who is free to leave

04:05:42.260 you but chooses not to and so in conclusion ladies your body count is your past and any man preoccupied

04:05:46.980 with your past has no faith in himself to make your future better so the next time a man asks you what

04:05:51.140 your body count is tell him it's not his freaking business and leave the date as quickly as possible

04:05:54.580 because why spend any time with a man who doesn't realize that even though your past and where you came

04:05:58.180 from does matter what matters more is what you learned from your past and where you're going next

04:06:01.860 i love that that's amazing i can't believe you guys just played that to be honest what what do

04:06:10.260 you mean that was awesome she's actually she's correct you you agree yeah your body she she literally

04:06:17.700 just said your body count doesn't even matter and it's like it does though the ratio matters but like

04:06:24.020 she just said the body count doesn't matter and to leave if someone asks like that's cool so you don't

04:06:29.220 think you think you think i agree with what she's saying you you think a woman who slept with 100

04:06:34.580 men i don't comparable to a woman who's only slept with one i i said my i actually did say my body

04:06:42.020 count was like around 22 i didn't bring my diary with me but that's a very very low body count and so

04:06:49.060 i'm not saying like is 23 a low body count for being 33 years the average is six for women compared to

04:06:56.260 like how many opportunities i have on a daily basis i know like modern times that is a low body yeah

04:07:05.860 so i'm not like like i'm not like at like i don't think people should just fuck everyone

04:07:13.620 even though everyone thinks i think that but um but i agree with her like it's kind of none of your

04:07:18.500 business if you meet someone and hit it off like why does it even why was the past matter q do you have a

04:07:24.340 response to her and then also reaction to uh the video i love that video her on body count matters

04:07:33.940 women oh body count matters women who say body count doesn't matter and specifically we're not

04:07:39.060 talking about whether it does to men or not because this is the argument that women typically make why

04:07:43.460 should my body count matter the first reason it matters is biologically evolutionarily paternity

04:07:48.580 uncertainty it's a natural psychological adaptation for men to feel repulsed by body count because it's

04:07:55.060 indicative that their paternity will not be ensured that's the biological evolutionary explanation

04:08:01.380 secondly women are not very discerning about the men that they lay down with if you pay attention to

04:08:06.740 women who actually sleep with men a lot of men try to get in without condoms you notice that it's

04:08:11.780 uh sti rates go up that's the second thing third the psychological effects that it has on women

04:08:19.860 women typically are promiscuous when they have something else going on substance abuse uh former

04:08:26.100 abuse in their early teen stages these kind of things manifest that's why a woman's past matters

04:08:31.300 because it's indicative that she has poor she'll exhibit poor behavioral tendencies she falls into ways that

04:08:37.940 are not conducive to a healthy relationship though they'll be you know manifested in one way or another

04:08:43.620 within the relationship that's why it's important so there are a whole bunch of markers that high

04:08:48.100 body counts indicate and it's also indicative it can be a gene there's actually been a gene that's been

04:08:52.820 found for promiscuity in women and in men it's called the d the dr4 gene i believe that's the correct

04:09:00.020 gene it's actually associated with promiscuity so the whole pair bonding thing is not even the more

04:09:06.260 men you sleep with you it affects your ability to pair bond it's you suck at pair bonding from the

04:09:12.020 jump which is why you become promiscuous you naturally fall in a cycle of dating men sleeping

04:09:17.140 with men and that's essentially what it boils down to everything you're saying is correct but you

04:09:22.420 yourself are not willing to not have sex before marriage you're contributing to all these women and

04:09:29.060 you're allowed to be promiscuous but she's not well yeah but i don't think i don't think yeah

04:09:37.300 because y'all because y'all still speaking about the double y'all still speaking about the double

04:09:40.580 standard and it's because it's a disadvantage to y'all it's it's a disadvantage it's a disadvantage

04:09:47.700 it's a disadvantage that's why you don't like it to both men and women to have a higher body count and

04:09:52.420 everything that woman said it was like she was she was half there but why is it why is it a disadvantage

04:09:57.300 why why do you consider it a disadvantage to men as opposed to women when women don't go out of their

04:10:02.820 way a man will stop dating you if he finds out you have too many bodies for his liking whatever that

04:10:07.940 may be your marriage the higher your body count is for men and women men and women who get married

04:10:12.900 who have higher body counts both of them yes they're more likely to get divorced i'm well aware it's more

04:10:18.500 pronounced in women though yeah and i'm well aware of what you're saying you're not wrong but what i'm

04:10:22.580 saying is attitude towards body count like i did my own study on this as well and i asked men if you

04:10:29.300 found out your woman had a promiscuous past how would you feel and i gave him the options discussed

04:10:33.700 indifferent um repulsed etc the responses were overwhelmingly repulsed disgusted and then i

04:10:40.820 asked another question surveyed some more men and asked them would you ultimately in the relationship

04:10:46.100 the majority of men said they would now compare it to women it's not the same results hold on just a

04:10:51.860 sec donated 99 stochastic decay has a question for all raspy you sit there and talk about ratio this

04:11:00.580 ratio that and how the rest of the panel doesn't understand math what's the ratio of duck size to

04:11:06.900 gluck looks that resulted in your vocal core damage the biggest was 12 12 inches yeah others i measured it

04:11:18.420 you can see for yourself in my only fans i put the measuring tape next to it so yeah send the asteroid

04:11:25.860 okay i mean i don't want to get raised into it but i feel like it's pretty big for a white guy

04:11:36.900 sorry but like i think that i just have something to do she just had she had to clarify what's that

04:11:44.660 song by the offspring pretty i mean it's pretty white guy it's pretty rare to find i'm not gonna lie

04:11:52.020 okay but my voice was raspy way way before this like i've always had a raspy voice way since way

04:12:01.380 before i even had sex yeah i didn't have sex until i was 18 and people started talking about my raspy

04:12:06.820 voice when i was around 16 so good time wait so your voice has been raspy your whole life

04:12:11.780 yeah oh okay so it runs in the family is that my mom's is raspy too that could be genetic that's

04:12:19.220 interesting okay twins also run my family yeah well i like bringing it back to the video do any of you

04:12:27.540 let's go around the table on this your reaction to the video agree disagree um i would disagree with

04:12:34.420 her only be well to a certain extent like if i'm planning on dating you and you ask me

04:12:40.100 like what's your body count i'm gonna tell you but if i don't have any

04:12:45.860 like form or if i don't want to pursue anything more with you i'm not like it doesn't matter

04:12:53.060 okay i think the question of does does body count matter depends on what you mean by matter

04:13:00.100 like there's there's two ways you could there's two things you can mean when you ask this question

04:13:04.580 and one would be does it matter for the partner in how he perceives the partner and the the other way

04:13:10.980 to answer the question would be does it matter for the individual as in their mental and emotional

04:13:15.460 health when they increase their body count number so you know i think for the the question of does it

04:13:21.380 matter for the perception of the partner it really just depends i mean some people care some people

04:13:26.420 don't so it's like do people care the length of their hair of their partner i think for some people

04:13:31.860 have strong preferences some people don't so i think you you can look at the data in the generalizations

04:13:37.060 but that's really going to be an individual question yeah as with most things yeah most things as far as

04:13:42.820 the the individual part of it i think that depends on the the person as well because for some people

04:13:48.580 you know i think we can all agree if we're using sleeping with a lot of people to to fill a void whether

04:13:53.300 that be loneliness addiction um you know need for validation need for attention need to feel

04:13:58.740 love that's probably a negative thing um but you know is there any good reason to sleep with a lot

04:14:03.620 of people no no i would say that for some people they can separate sort of the intimacy part of it from

04:14:11.700 the um sort of the casual part of it sounds like a bad thing i can't do that yeah i think it's really

04:14:18.660 hard to do but i you know i've seen people do it i think it's pretty yeah it's not impossible i

04:14:23.060 couldn't wait like the intimate from the physical yeah from the physical yeah yeah so so like an

04:14:28.820 example for example i was involved in the the partner dance community for a long time so um one thing

04:14:34.580 that happens in the partner dance community that can be a very intimate thing you're you know hugging

04:14:38.740 each other you're breathing together there's a lead and a follow and so it can be a very intimate

04:14:44.580 experience but you're also sort of dancing with the person and then saying like thank you so much

04:14:48.740 like um goodbye and then you ask the next person to dance so it can be a very intimate experience

04:14:55.220 but you can also kind of frame it in a way where this is a dance where we're sort of sharing this

04:14:58.980 connection so i think it's hard to do but some people do are able to frame that in a way with sex

04:15:04.020 as well where it doesn't really affect their intimacy because when they are having sex with an intimate

04:15:09.860 um not intimate but with like a partner that they really love or in a committed relationship

04:15:14.420 with it means something different then we're doing it more casually so the intentions can be different

04:15:20.020 until they catch herpes but um did you i honestly agree with everything that she said

04:15:27.700 okay also can i add one more thing yeah yeah of course um of course another reason it matters is

04:15:32.020 because of the orgasm gap yeah women are if if men's motivation for sex is because we know we're

04:15:38.100 going to orgasm then we're much more inclined to want to have sex whereas women when they engage

04:15:43.940 in casual sex you're less likely to orgasm yeah you usually don't orgasm if you have sex

04:15:50.820 yeah you usually don't orgasm if you have sex especially with a casual and things that help women

04:15:55.140 orgasm are things like liking the guy and the guy being familiar with your body and you being attracted

04:15:59.860 to the guy so essentially if you want to compare it women waste their time more and sex involves more

04:16:06.180 of a risk than a reward for a woman than it does for a man yeah i absolutely agree with that

04:16:10.820 familiarly sort of has like a double-edged sword because on one hand familiarity like you said can

04:16:16.340 breed comfort can be trust and that can lead to better and higher quality sex more orgasms exactly

04:16:22.340 on the other hand familiarity can sort of lead to boredom for some people and so

04:16:26.340 you know it sort of has a double-edged sword and like which way which way it swings

04:16:29.460 i don't like to have sex with someone unless i feel like i have a emotional connection with them

04:16:36.740 because it's just really not worth it like what you're saying what you're saying too like why would

04:16:42.020 i have sex with someone if i'm not emotionally connected and can't have an orgasm that doesn't

04:16:46.100 make any sense i'll quickly address the video uh it's very interesting like basically she's saying

04:16:54.180 she's basically shaming men for their preferences standards and boundaries men are not allowed to have

04:16:59.300 preferences standards and uh boundaries what did she say oh it's insecure i'm trying to think what

04:17:07.060 else she said it's insecure for a variety of reasons and uh i fail to see how it's about insecurity when

04:17:15.940 well for some of the reasons outlined why it can be an indicator for various things she also said it's

04:17:21.780 not your business it's not yeah and she said like if you're that great like your past doesn't matter

04:17:30.260 because she won't be like thinking of course people's past matters i'm i'm sure she would object

04:17:35.140 like she may very well want to disqualify a potential partner because of a criminal history

04:17:41.140 oh no no what she said she said was if you're because the bodies are from my past and if you're focused on

04:17:47.140 my past we can't build a field future that's what she said i mean that's a that's a what's it called

04:17:56.820 a uh i think men that platitude but i i it's i i reject it but go ahead men and women are absolutely

04:18:06.900 allowed to have um body body count preferences you know anyone can have their their preferences i don't

04:18:12.900 think there's so that part i would agree with you that i disagree with what what she was saying that

04:18:17.060 i don't think men nor women should be shamed for having a preference about that or really anything

04:18:22.020 people have preferences about every single thing like i prefer blondes and you prefer girls that

04:18:28.180 want to pay up for the first date like we're all allowed to have our preferences we're all attracting

04:18:32.580 very down to split okay so i'm not but like we all have our preferences and we're all gonna attract

04:18:38.660 completely different people because we're all so different i'll pay if she has a large labia how

04:18:43.700 about that well i know how would you know i i know that you i don't i just got out about this

04:18:49.060 organization she's got she's got to slide into my dms would you just that's gonna be her first

04:18:54.820 message you go look at her only fans to find out like how do you know who would she's gonna slide

04:19:00.180 my dms and be like what's up brian i'm 410 and i got a large labia what's up oh okay so let's see how

04:19:05.940 many dates you get from you know what i actually have had a couple women dm me telling me i'm sure

04:19:10.100 you do right i'm no they'll they've told me like larger than life we're soulmate wait do you have a

04:19:17.380 no that's what the girls are probably dming you you got an outie what's up i i'm saying that's what

04:19:22.740 the girls are probably huh is that not what they say my my labia is larger than life and the dms

04:19:29.780 do you i i have received a few of those dms yeah i've received a few yeah yeah have you gone out

04:19:36.500 with any of those here and there arby's favorite fast food yes or no whoa whoa whoa i i cannot i

04:19:44.180 disavow that statement we should not be shaming women for the natural way in which they

04:19:53.620 the pussy is i'm just saying you shouldn't shame women if they got it's more about cleanliness and

04:19:59.140 hygiene what are you talking you can have a clean pussy and have an outie i know that's fine but

04:20:04.340 i'm saying like what are you saying i'm saying what are you matters more about the looks of it is

04:20:10.100 how you keep it hygienic and clean oh well that's a that's a dumb bow what dumbo wait what tie your

04:20:19.540 ears in a knot tie your ears the bigger the better the larger the labia the better you should just go

04:20:25.940 any women listen ladies don't let these men and women shame you if you have a large labia there

04:20:32.820 are plenty of men who will be appreciative i think that is a whole category on porno like meaty

04:20:39.940 i i think meaty vagina is this category

04:20:42.100 okay uh all right so look body count is a proxy for promiscuity so if you have a high body count

04:21:06.660 you were promiscuous you are promiscuous most people don't want to be involved in i don't think

04:21:12.100 anyone even has a high body kristin saint regis christy christopher i need you to stop interrupting

04:21:20.180 me it's very rude very rude kristin that's not my name okay steve-o that's actually better than

04:21:29.780 calling christian i hate when christians steal the name christy as their nickname it's not my

04:21:34.980 fault your parents i'm gonna start calling you it's not my fault their parents name them christina

04:21:39.060 how about that i've heard this used uh the adhesive tape analogy in regards to pair bonding so it's

04:21:48.740 like tape when you place tape on something for the first time the adhesion is strong it sticks

04:21:53.860 but the more times you start putting the tape on to a new surface well that's correct it's

04:21:59.220 scientifically proven that is what happens the more sexual partners you have it is what happens but

04:22:03.220 what i think the red pill community fails to offer guys is hope that there is redemption like he's

04:22:09.700 a guy a guy or a girl with a high body count a guy or a girl with a higher body count they there is

04:22:18.020 redemption offered to them through christ that they're not going to get through the red pill community i

04:22:21.860 just want to say that so this idea like once you have a high body count your life is over like

04:22:25.940 that's not true i think that's a really damaging thing to tell people well i mean what age depends

04:22:32.020 on that too like if you were lucky enough to meet your soulmate at 23 then you're only gonna you're

04:22:38.260 never gonna be dating around sleeping with people but if you're 30 33 35 and single you're just

04:22:46.580 naturally going to have like more opportunity we can't keep talking about the ratio i'm not i'm

04:22:54.980 actually just going off what you're saying okay my bad i'm not talking i'm not talking about i'm just

04:22:59.700 saying i'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody

04:23:04.100 i mean it's just like if we're in our 30s and single and trying to meet like a husband

04:23:14.740 your body count is gonna probably have to be a little bit higher than if you met your

04:23:19.540 person in your 20s just because you've had to date around a little bit but then it would go into the

04:23:26.580 ratio thing which i'm not talking about i don't think that's not i don't think your age necessarily

04:23:30.820 guarantees that you're gonna have a high body count but okay so you're saying like through christ you

04:23:35.780 can get redemption even if you were you slept with 100 people loves horse there's there's born again

04:23:42.020 virgins it's true no i don't believe in i will not allow i hate the whole born again it's the whole

04:23:48.820 community virgin so you would let me ask that's what we're talking about you're christian you're

04:23:56.580 christian right yes so let's say a woman she previously was a prostitute and she slept she

04:24:04.340 slept with 300 people but she found christ yes she goes to the church she's no longer she's no longer

04:24:10.100 a prostitute she's now saving herself till marriage would you advocate a male friend of yours do you have

04:24:17.780 a brother uh yes would you advocate for your brother despite she's redeemed herself right she's found

04:24:23.860 christ would you advocate your brother marrying her uh it depends on how long ago she was born again

04:24:30.980 and saved if she got saved last week no i don't think i think born again is no let's say she's been

04:24:37.700 a year no it's probably still too new in her walk if she's somebody who has totally changed her life and

04:24:43.860 she has been faithfully living that new life for five plus years yes but i don't think you can call

04:24:50.100 yourself a virgin again no that's why you can't regain a born again right but like that past behavior

04:24:59.380 in my view if you're if you're an intelligent man that should preclude you from a relationship

04:25:07.140 with a man and that would be anything that makes sense you learned from it would be advisable

04:25:13.220 it would be very advisable to recommend to men despite her finding god and being celibate and

04:25:22.020 waiting till marriage if she was previously a prostitute and slept with 300 men that that does

04:25:30.900 not a good wife make i mean well i feel like the number act like would play a part of me you're saying

04:25:36.980 300 what if she had like 20 and she was like you know what i'm gonna hang up the towel i'm gonna i

04:25:42.820 mean a lot of women got 20 like they got a lot of women but i'm saying i'm saying like it's a number

04:25:49.060 thing like that's what i'm asking is it a number or is it just the fact that she did it like the fact

04:25:55.220 that she was a prostitute or was is it the number well i think there's again like degrees to it like

04:26:01.140 if she was a prost if she's a prostitute no i don't care if she had a prostitute if she only had

04:26:07.460 10 clients if she prostituted herself done you're done i just i think that's an incredible testimony

04:26:15.780 for somebody to have and i personally in my life know men who have body counts in the hundreds before

04:26:21.620 they before they became christians it's kind of different but ever from the day they became a

04:26:26.660 christian they walked that walk and they lived that life the fruit of their life shows that they

04:26:32.020 truly are saved and made a change then yes i think that person can still be marriage material well can't

04:26:37.300 you also say for like men who's had sex for like 300 plus people like it's also a emotional bond there

04:26:45.860 too because out of the 300 people you've slept with you probably fell for like 50 of them you probably

04:26:52.580 have like close relationships for like 50 of them so now you're saying okay so there's a couple

04:26:59.060 relationship yeah yeah there's a couple things so in terms of society functioning the best in an ideal

04:27:05.860 world the you would just everyone would just be a virgin and they would marry the they would get

04:27:12.100 married they would wait till marriage and then they would raise yes ideal in an ideal world that's

04:27:17.060 yes that's perfect it sucks but society is built up this way i think it's a super sad depressing

04:27:26.340 world to live in where you think no past behavior can ever be redeemed that everybody's so doomed to

04:27:32.260 whatever their mistakes are that you can never yeah like what if the girl was really messed up in the

04:27:36.420 head and she got home from your mistakes so you have there's growth there's something called growth and

04:27:41.220 like you can't learn no you can grow but like grow without making a couple mistakes i mean i don't think that a

04:27:46.340 virgin guy i don't think a guy who gets married let's say a guy that gets married at 29 years old

04:27:50.500 and he's never had sex once it's probably gonna be the best matchup to marry a prostitute or a former

04:27:56.100 prostitute but if you're talking about a guy who also has his own path he's changed she has you know

04:28:01.300 what i mean then yes there's not gonna be that huge like imbalance of and everyone has their own

04:28:06.260 past and they're gonna can right like what if she had like people not saying she had a legitimate

04:28:11.780 excuse but what if she was like going through stuff and that's not that doesn't and now and

04:28:16.900 no she found the proper help she got the help she needed she's gone to her little therapy it's done

04:28:23.060 it's over become a nun you can become a nun how about that look look then it was like i'm just

04:28:30.980 talking for me and what i would recommend to other men i don't care if she's now a godly woman if you

04:28:37.620 previously were a prostitute drug addicted 300 body count i would recommend if someone has a

04:28:45.860 better women but there are better women out there seven eight years they like they don't deserve to

04:28:52.180 i wouldn't for me i would not for me i would not date a woman who was previously a drug addict if

04:28:58.020 she was sober for years i don't care how long she's been sober i'm just that's a metric with which

04:29:03.700 i'm not gonna date a woman how's that crazy that's smart i'm not saying i'm trying to

04:29:10.260 how's that crazy that's just discernment they probably went through some shitty stuff in their

04:29:15.700 childhood and that that's another reason that is another reason to not want to date a woman

04:29:24.420 i mean i'm not saying i'm trying to date someone like that but i'm just saying

04:29:28.100 if people change their lives around you like they deserve a second like legitimate like never

04:29:34.660 look back either i will say if that's all you can get then that's different but if you if you have

04:29:39.860 options that's the worst option to select right regardless if you're of how holy it may be or you

04:29:47.780 know how much of a good person you may be trying to be it doesn't matter you don't want a woman that

04:29:52.420 has that history you don't want a woman that has that on her ledger in the same way that that women

04:29:57.620 will make the optimum decision when it comes to who they're going to sleep with who they're going

04:30:03.060 to partner with who they're going to marry who they're having they're going to have kids with men

04:30:07.300 are also free to make the optimum decision everyone and find every everyone is trying to make the

04:30:13.140 optimum decision and as a guy if you have other options a woman who was previously a pro i i can't

04:30:20.740 believe i have to explain this a woman who was previously a prostitute and drug addicted does not

04:30:26.100 make for a good potential partner i'm not like and i don't like i think that's totally fine i mean

04:30:31.140 everyone has a choice i don't think anyone again if you just if you got clean

04:30:36.660 like we're just saying like if if she was to like clean her sofa i don't care no i here's another thing

04:30:44.820 i don't care if she's been sober for hold on let me finish i don't care if she's been sober for five

04:30:49.380 years you have damn it if you you were previously a drug addict there are probably some irreversible there's

04:30:55.060 some irreversible damage you've done to your body yes of course perhaps even when it comes to

04:31:00.420 fertility so that could be i mean there's plenty of reasons you're gonna let's not youtube's gonna

04:31:07.620 cancel me let's not go there we're not gonna go there no we can't because we're not gonna go there

04:31:12.260 but but look but that that might be that and a lot of women who maybe a lot of conservative women

04:31:19.060 that actually might be a well men or women that might be a zip zip it good okay

04:31:29.220 that might be a metric by which somebody doesn't want to date somebody if they got the jab

04:31:34.900 hey everyone can have their preferences yeah thousand percent like i would that for me is

04:31:41.700 way a way bigger red flag than any type of job but if everyone can have their preferences then we can't

04:31:46.820 really say well like these preferences are okay but these preferences are not okay right like it's

04:31:51.460 either one or the other you literally just said when i said ryan's deciding when when i just said yeah

04:32:00.820 zip it zip it okay chris kirsten you like to interrupt you like to interrupt okay i'm not going to tolerate it

04:32:12.500 anymore okay oh the sass zip it okay you literally just said brian it's crazy that you wouldn't date

04:32:21.220 a woman who's been seven years sober that's not crazy that's smart i'm not saying for you but i'm

04:32:27.780 saying for someone else like everyone deserves to find their person nobody nobody deserves to find a

04:32:33.780 person yeah everyone's going to eventually well not i'm not here no no here i think maybe here's where

04:32:39.860 you're getting caught up i'm not saying that it's going to be impossible for a woman who used to be

04:32:45.540 a prostitute or who used to be drug addicted to find somebody it i agree with you on that of course

04:32:54.260 but what i'm saying what i'm arguing is that for myself and honestly as a recommendation for other men

04:33:01.860 don't date a previous drug addict there are better options out there in the same way that women are

04:33:07.540 looking for the best options you too as a man can go for the best option you can optimize and try to

04:33:13.700 get the best option i just think it happens to be the case that a lot of women are unaccustomed to men

04:33:18.980 articulating preferences standards and boundaries because most men are never most men are never in

04:33:24.900 a position to so when women hear it they're like this is unusual the fuck was he talking about every

04:33:32.340 woman deserves love every woman should have a man every woman gets a second chance that's essentially how

04:33:37.140 y'all treat it and it's inherent it's like y'all it's like y'all intrinsically believe that i don't

04:33:41.780 think that at all but there's a lot of women who do deserves to have chilled or well i don't think

04:33:46.420 everybody is guaranteed to have children or should have that yeah should i can't talk i don't think

04:33:52.100 everybody's scared to have children i don't think everybody's guaranteed to get married i think that

04:33:56.020 it's totally depends on god's will for your life

04:34:01.380 word last video we're going to react to a video from q over here if you can pull it up nick actually

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04:34:39.220 up the cue video then we're going to wrap

04:34:47.140 you want me to follow up with his instagram yeah yeah it's the first one or sorry sorry it's the

04:34:51.940 second one that's pinned yeah oh that one yeah yeah now i want y'all to understand that in this new

04:35:05.140 age of modern women this is one of the ways in which they will consciously sabotage their romantic

04:35:10.420 opportunities the last thing a man wants from a woman is for that woman to play mind games

04:35:14.660 and downplay her attraction to him or her desire to see him and this is one of the ways in which pop

04:35:19.380 culture media has led women astray and actually reduce their ability to form healthy romantic

04:35:25.220 connections by getting them to behave in ways that are counterproductive to developing those healthy

04:35:29.940 romantic interactions when a man is interested in a woman and he's going out on a limb he's initiating

04:35:34.660 he offers something for them to do that is a woman's opportunity to reciprocate that romantic

04:35:40.420 interest without any pride ego nonchalantness apathy manipulation or reverse psychological

04:35:46.180 tactics a man with options is not going to conform and entertain such and women's

04:35:50.820 friends will even encourage just low iq behavior amongst themselves don't appear too desperate don't

04:35:55.300 move too fast you don't want him to think you're a whore i've dealt with plenty of women who when i

04:35:59.460 ask them they were available to me or they modified their schedules to see me at their earliest

04:36:04.820 convenience and that's how healthy women tend to operate when they're genuinely interested in a guy

04:36:09.220 they want that man to know that they're interested as well women will engage in and utilize the most

04:36:13.540 counterproductive dating methods and then get upset and vilify the man when those strategies fail to

04:36:17.620 produce the desire to affect their outcome truth i agree all women and i've seen like that's not the

04:36:26.500 only girl that i've seen like kind of do this like use that noise it's like i it's one of those tick

04:36:31.220 tock things right uh and she's like oh my what is it she's like stoked that the guy is texting her

04:36:40.260 but then she's like responds to play hard to get oh uh i'm busy or like even though she you know

04:36:46.980 whatever so um i think human nature like we're attracted to what's rare and and kind of um full

04:36:53.220 circle going back to the conversation topic where you started where uh you said something along the

04:36:58.100 lines where if the guy was too available that was unattractive to the to the woman and because

04:37:03.620 maybe you had multiple other partners that it actually made women more attracted to you i don't

04:37:09.380 think that's weird like i think it's human nature to want the thing that you can't have or want the

04:37:14.580 thing that is rare so essentially what the the woman in that video was doing was sort of trying to

04:37:20.100 recreate that so you know i think it's it's not great for both either gender to do i think everyone

04:37:26.180 should you know if there is attraction and you're also reciprocally attracted to that person to be like

04:37:31.460 full and present and not try to play and i want to piggyback on what you're saying i feel like a lot of it is

04:37:36.740 how we're females how we're raised growing up especially by older females in our family like

04:37:43.940 for me it was like my grand my grandma she would be like oh you got to act like a lady you got to do

04:37:48.740 this you can't let him like if you want a good man you can't perceive yourself as this this and that

04:37:54.660 even though we're like super into you we're super attracted we want to spend like every single day with

04:37:59.380 you we don't want you to think that we're like hoes or we're just like out there like we're doing this

04:38:04.340 with everybody else so it's not like a we're playing games in a sense it's like okay let me

04:38:10.180 chill let me see how i can get him without him thinking too much of me

04:38:17.060 anybody else that could be the case like with a lot of women i do hear that a lot but like in the

04:38:23.460 video that she's just representing she's just oh no no she was wrong yeah exactly like you can tell

04:38:29.940 she was wrong like all she wants is like the chase and like that's all she's seeking is the

04:38:33.940 attention and everything yeah i don't think men i don't think men or women should be playing games

04:38:38.900 like that um i think it's super detrimental but i also think like when women are forward i don't know

04:38:45.620 it's like it scares a lot of men away when we're for it like because you can be like oh you're hot and

04:38:50.420 i'm gonna be like oh you're hot too let's let's go let's go to my place and you're like oh no you're too

04:38:55.380 you're too much like i don't like you guys want us no games but then when we are forward we're like

04:38:59.540 okay yes i'm interested like you know what i mean it's like you're maybe doing this to it

04:39:03.700 oh i get with natural hunters but i like agree with your video except for i just because there

04:39:10.900 was like the sound over it it's like if two people like each other then yes they both like each other

04:39:17.860 they should both be dropping things and prioritizing someone it shouldn't just be the girl that has to

04:39:22.500 prioritize the man they should both equally be prioritizing each other right and i understand

04:39:27.140 what all of you are saying the caveat is the guy having options and the way the woman responds so

04:39:33.860 i'm saying if the woman plays games and that guy has options then he's not going to necessarily

04:39:38.180 stick around for her to wait to see if she's going to be interested or reciprocate but what i'm saying

04:39:44.340 is he may is he may move on but if she really likes him then she just sabotaged that opportunity

04:39:49.700 because she wanted to downplay it because she wanted to play cat and mouse that's what i'm

04:39:53.940 saying but you also encourage men to not play games with yeah which is true yeah yeah i don't know i

04:39:59.940 kind of like it if a woman simps you know i do too i love it it's actually it it takes a lot of

04:40:07.300 pressure off me you love it but not enough for you to to get rid of your roster and not have other

04:40:12.420 women that you're seeing on the side because you're still forgetting that

04:40:15.140 you guys are impossible no no because you know you're missing the point to where i said we were

04:40:21.860 monogamous yes and and then and then she was sabotaging so now she got her stuff together okay

04:40:28.900 you get your stuff together okay okay you stop playing games okay you get married who said we

04:40:32.980 wasn't gonna do that though you no we'll still do it it'll just be on my yeah it'll still be it'll

04:40:39.620 still be on my time though but it didn't go unnoticed it didn't go unnoticed i'm saying you

04:40:45.300 guys have both established throughout this entire podcast that there you guys are you know in this

04:40:49.540 mentality there are hardly any good women out there and you are saying that you have a great woman

04:40:54.740 don't let her go once you leave this podcast i didn't do you think you being less available than

04:41:00.020 she would like makes you more attractive to her uh absolutely subconsciously it does is that a is

04:41:05.780 that a game would you say of being unavailable kind of no because i'm not trying to play i'm not

04:41:11.140 i'm not trying to play unavailable i'm operating genuinely like this is this is me i have no ulterior

04:41:17.620 motives i'm not trying to make her feel a certain type of way i'm just literally focused on me and

04:41:22.820 where i want to be and with that comes me if other women are interested then yeah i'll talk to other

04:41:30.100 women i'll do other things but it never gets too serious it never goes too far and at the end of

04:41:34.500 the day when i want to call somebody when i want to talk to somebody when i want to take somebody on

04:41:38.020 a vacation vacation whatever i call her but what if she's just genuinely busy and has her own life

04:41:44.180 too that's fine i never said anything against that yeah no i'm like i agree with you except for like

04:41:49.860 she shouldn't be the only one i don't i don't stop her from doing anything she wants to do well

04:41:54.180 everything she does she does incentive for you to settle down with her if she actually finds you more

04:41:58.100 attractive when you're less available because i'm still doing things like this so the only thing that

04:42:03.220 would change is me just cutting off other women no but but what would be what would be the incentive

04:42:08.660 for you as in like why would you ever want to give up this lifestyle if the more unavailable you are

04:42:13.460 for her the more she finds you attractive not this not this lifestyle just other women the lifestyle

04:42:19.540 stays the same the other women is what i mean yeah yeah getting rid of the other women that's easy

04:42:25.780 but why would you ever do that i mean it sounds like when you were fully available for her

04:42:29.860 she wanted you less right because because because because she took it as a challenge and i guess

04:42:35.220 it's a motivation to improve herself how old is she you asked i told you she's 26 have you seen her

04:42:41.860 like improvement ever since she i guess sabotaged your guys's relationship like have you seen her

04:42:46.980 actually trying to progress and improve herself yep and that's and that's what i respect so yeah at this

04:42:52.660 point in my life like i said i told you guys in the beginning it's not all about me dating other women

04:42:57.780 it's about me trying to get somewhere where i want to be in my life like financially yeah i respect it

04:43:03.460 and and i'm trying to accomplish certain things so but if you're waiting for that perfect moment

04:43:07.460 it's never going to come i under yeah yeah i don't know i i know that i know i'm well aware of that

04:43:14.420 that's why also it's a matter of my discernment so what i'm saying is um i don't want to rush it but

04:43:21.860 at the same time i'm still open to when it comes and i'm not saying that's going to take years down

04:43:26.660 the road that could be next year that could be in a couple months but what i'm saying is i'm just

04:43:31.140 going to operate on my time regardless it's just going to it's just if she's still there she's free

04:43:35.940 to do what she wants she's free to go wherever she wants she's free to be with whoever she wants

04:43:39.940 so when i'm ready if she's still available and she's willing then we'll make it work but not

04:43:44.820 sleeping with other people for you what she wants to do because that grosses you out yeah no i

04:43:49.140 know i'm saying if she slept with if she no if she slept with other people that doesn't actually

04:43:53.380 gross me out because we met when she was in a relationship so i know she slept with somebody

04:43:58.180 else while we talked yeah but you said you didn't want her to be because i know i'd lose her i know

04:44:02.900 i'd lose her i'm saying what i'm saying is if she's still there the number one indicator that would be

04:44:08.420 that she's no longer available is if she sleeps with somebody else i'm saying i know she likes

04:44:13.060 somebody else and at that point i've lost her yeah that's true so that's that's that's what i use that

04:44:17.860 as a proxy for if i still have her does she still love me is she still committed to me once she sleeps with

04:44:22.980 another man for that moment she may not like it it you know he it meant it might not work out but for

04:44:29.860 that moment if she told me like listen i'm interested in somebody else i'm seeing somebody else and they

04:44:34.180 sleep together i'm operating under the presumption that she's moved on okay so our next thing here

04:44:45.140 uh nick can you pull up the chat so i can see it yo guys one in the chat should i just start paying

04:44:50.820 for first dates should i chat do you think i should start one in the chat yes brian start be a gentleman

04:44:57.780 start paying for first dates two in the chat no brian you're you're right you are righteous stop don't

04:45:05.620 continue oh we got a couple twos don't pay for the first date brian unless she has a large labia one in

04:45:11.700 the chat one in the chat it's like 50 50 yeah it seems like 50 50 okay i guess i'm gonna

04:45:18.900 not pay nope i'm 50 50 50 that's enough to keep me keep me stuck in my ways every podcast stuck in my

04:45:26.820 ways there's a three what's last yeah i don't know what three is uh i guess that's have her pay for the

04:45:32.340 first date that'd be nice um last thing here uh does anybody here like maybe you've seen the show

04:45:40.100 before does anybody here aside from anything we've already talked about tonight disagree with anything

04:45:46.180 i've said in a previous show not off the top of my any disagreements the only show i ever

04:45:52.420 watched before was the one i was in so solipsism okay i mean like i just i disagreed a lot already

04:46:01.700 on that show but nothing okay uh any final thoughts from anybody before maddie you want

04:46:06.820 to do a let's do a 15 minute after show okay uh final thoughts from anybody speak now forever hold

04:46:13.860 your peace i just want to say that for the guys that think like there's no good women anymore

04:46:21.780 there are plenty there are tons of girls that have not gotten the juice if you know what i mean

04:46:28.180 that are christian that are conservative that want to leave a legacy through their family there are

04:46:34.020 women like that we're waiting for the right guy exactly

04:46:46.260 okay anybody else final thought

04:46:50.820 okay i just think you should start paying for your

04:46:55.460 i think not i'm fine we're never gonna like i don't think we're ever gonna say

04:47:02.900 stochastic decay donated 99 stochastic decay has a data science question for us p how would you adjust

04:47:12.980 the ratio calculation for women who hang out at clubs versus women who hang out at libraries

04:47:18.740 i'm open to non-traditional methodologies

04:47:23.460 i mean i i still think it'd be the same math though oh god

04:47:29.700 that's the that's the thing you can't you can't you can't knock out the girls who hang out the light

04:47:35.060 at the library because they they get down to but it's still the same math because they got less

04:47:39.700 opportunities than the girls at the club so it's still about the opportunities you took

04:47:46.260 word okay guys last call we're gonna do a uh we're gonna do a

04:47:53.380 brief 10-15 minute after show with madison here as your host last call hit the like button please

04:47:58.340 on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you

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04:48:07.620 thank you to the panel for coming appreciate it guys thank you to all our chat mods thank you to

04:48:12.260 brit who's helping with timestamps any women who want to be on the show dm out whatever uh we will be

04:48:18.820 live again tuesday at 7 p or excuse me tuesday at 5 p.m pacific we're we're changing the time uh it's

04:48:27.940 gonna be a different show the tuesday show i'm i'll just reveal it we're gonna have i don't know if

04:48:33.700 any of you saw that netflix documentary about the american gladiators we're gonna have an american

04:48:38.660 gladiator panel it's gonna be a little different it's gonna be a smaller panel uh but i wanted to

04:48:45.140 you know do something a little different something new uh if you guys aren't interested in that it's

04:48:51.300 probably gonna be a little more tame but uh if you aren't interested in that we will be back with

04:48:57.060 the nor our normal dating talk on sunday but tuesday 5 p.m we have the american gladiator special

04:49:04.340 edition whatever dating talk podcast so uh be sure to tune in for that anyways guys we'll see you next

04:49:11.860 time good night guys we are doing an after show so if you want to stick around for 10 15 minutes

04:49:16.420 uh yeah go for it oh and uh you guys if you guys want you don't have to stick around for the after

04:49:24.180 show i know it's we're getting late here so if you want to dip i don't even know what you do in the

04:49:29.620 after show i know it's is this where the orgy comes in uh like the other after show no no no no

04:49:39.860 what happens what what happens right like do we have to sign like a real the real conversation uh

04:49:47.380 nick if you could hit the lights all right guys after show begins now honestly basically oh wait

04:49:54.900 last thing last thing uh i'm i've set the the tts for the after show is 69 and we'll do we'll read uh

04:50:04.260 like 1999 and up to like 20 1999 and uh madison you want to sit here sure

04:50:09.700 is it are you just like asking the questions for the after show kind of i'll explain does it get

04:50:18.980 heated i'm i'm like i'm curious i am gonna use i'm gonna go to the bathroom first i'm very

04:50:27.220 johnny welcome to the after show everyone so basically we haven't done an after show in a very

04:50:33.780 very long time uh when was the last time we did an after show nick like literally yeah a month and

04:50:40.180 a half ago but basically after um basically on the after show it's just like a little more intimate

04:50:46.740 conversation you know we try to gear less away from what we actually talk about on the actual panel

04:50:53.380 and all this like controversial shit just try to get to a little bit know a little bit more about

04:50:58.420 you guys are we still streaming right now yes we are still streaming right on the same screen and

04:51:04.100 yeah we're we're a little more intimate with the chat and the viewers as well they can ask us more

04:51:09.860 questions did you do it nicholas did you do it is it lowered okay

04:51:21.540 okay one moment let me just try to

04:51:30.580 that's finally more room though should i did we did we ever go did we ever read this one yeah we did

04:51:38.820 oh was i gone yeah yeah yeah i didn't read it this side work i were going to see one

04:51:51.780 maddie said she's not traditional attack maddie when did i ever say that when did i ever say that

04:52:00.260 ask you a question ask you a question yes okay i wanted to talk to you what is your type q what is

04:52:08.260 what is my type um what is yeah i want to go around the table what is everyone's type okay

04:52:14.020 uh my type is fit um not a thought i don't like women who party in club or who always out

04:52:25.780 um i like women with some substance i like women who like to read a book like a girl that i can take

04:52:30.820 to the library or i can take to a museum um i love amusement parks also like a girl who loves

04:52:35.700 roller coasters um physically what's your type physically do you have a type that's cute

04:52:40.980 uh as long as as long as she not overweight and she has a nice waist to hip ratio i'm good

04:52:47.700 do you have any christian girls christian girls i mean i don't really think much about

04:52:55.140 girls based on their religion if she attractive she attractive are you religious am i religious

04:53:00.260 no not as not as much as i used to be um i still have some spirituality in me but

04:53:04.740 not religious i don't you know i'm not in the church every sunday um i'm not praying every day

04:53:11.220 like i used to but um yeah it doesn't really matter i'm not really big on religion like that

04:53:16.420 it doesn't matter as long as she's attractive physically okay alex absolute sucker for brunette

04:53:24.100 bearded that is my jam almost exclusively brunettes i think all of my exes look like they could be brothers

04:53:30.980 always brunette bearded almost always besides like so like brian similar to brian yes i like

04:53:39.140 i like tall that is physically that's my type yeah no we do not have it we do not have enough

04:53:48.900 stuff aligned but wait you don't want to get married i would say also i'm very attracted to

04:53:55.300 kind of eastern european guys um or middle eastern okay what do you think romanian is i've yeah romanian

04:54:05.380 very attractive what about american-born british citizens that moved to romania who are currently under

04:54:16.420 criminal investigation oh they're likely gonna get off their last name rhyme rhymes with plate

04:54:25.300 boxers i'm not into bald i'll say this i like a full head of hair not into bald

04:54:32.740 a little superficial but i think guys are a lot more superficial than they let on to

04:54:37.460 great what if you're you're bearded brunette who's more superficial men or women don't ask me that

04:54:45.220 women women are more superficial almost always for everyone who is more superficial oh who is more

04:54:52.660 superficial yeah um no i will say i think it's about 50 50 honestly it honestly just depends yeah

04:55:02.420 it really does because biologically men tend to value physical attraction yeah we value it more than

04:55:07.940 women do i think women are willing to make more concessions like if you're really funny

04:55:11.700 or yeah but y'all struggle that's like i'm not attracted to you but you make me laugh my biggest

04:55:19.460 problem is i date guys a lot of the time i date them for personality and not looks and then i find

04:55:25.220 myself very unattracted to them but people changed me like i might meet someone and think he's really

04:55:30.820 hot and then after i start to get to know him it's like no i don't even know why i thought he was hot

04:55:35.460 that's the thing i feel like personality when you're first looking i feel like i i'm a little

04:55:40.660 bit iffy about when people say like i date people for personality because i honestly think everyone

04:55:45.300 dates people for personality yeah because you could be like the hottest person as soon as like i see

04:55:51.940 something like that just gives me the ick just but it's also like when you're going out looking for

04:55:56.900 people to be your significant other you're looking for attraction initially you need to have like both but

04:56:04.740 like i think there's an energy thing and that's why i prefer to meet someone when i'm out and about

04:56:09.540 in life versus like a dating app or something because then you kind of are just judging by like

04:56:14.980 the picture but if you start having an amazing conversation with someone they're gonna become

04:56:20.020 like a lot cuter than if you just like saw them on like an app and we're swiping do you do you guys ever

04:56:25.780 find that more attractive people are less what you're looking for in personality yeah i don't want to say

04:56:32.820 have bad personalities always i almost always like the guy at the bar or whatever that i'm

04:56:37.860 attracted to that i point out to my friends and i'm like he's cute they would probably say he's a six

04:56:42.020 or seven always because they know his personality no they're just saying like to me i'm like that's

04:56:48.260 the cutest guy in the bar and my friends are like my friends if they were gonna rate him would probably

04:56:52.340 say six or seven yeah me and my friends never have the same type at all yeah that's good that's a

04:56:56.980 a really good thing like i don't have to worry about it if you and your friends have the same type

04:57:01.380 then that could be trouble you're you're probably always getting into a lot of guys or a lot of

04:57:06.980 girls don't like oh we have a tts should men adjust their rate uh can you actually i'll do it

04:57:16.260 wait i don't know how to do it actually

04:57:17.860 do you want to put it back up nick please

04:57:24.660 it was a tts

04:57:42.820 okay anyway go on with what's your type well you have a boyfriend right okay are we talking about

04:57:50.100 physical type uh both physical and personality personality i think uh you know definitely

04:57:56.020 articulate intelligent able to have like a good conversation i really love traveling so someone

04:58:00.340 who loves traveling and trying new things i love trying new foods and um just kind of adventurous

04:58:06.580 things in general hiking nature but yeah someone who is um kind of willing to to learn um i think

04:58:16.180 life is all about learning so definitely that from a physical standpoint uh height is important to me

04:58:22.900 so probably someone who's at least a few inches taller than me how tall are you i'm five six so i'd say

04:58:28.420 like yeah at least like five nine five ten something like that it's reasonable yeah and uh yeah fit someone

04:58:34.180 who takes care of their their body um and uh i like beards too so beard gang that's right

04:58:42.180 um so for physical i like a beard so we connect everyone likes i like a beard i have i mean i like

04:58:53.620 a fit i like someone who like can like i wouldn't say fit like you don't have to be like jacked out but you

04:59:00.740 do have to be healthy yeah because i don't really it's just not a turn on if you're not but for

04:59:08.660 what was the other one is physical just personal personality um you got to be funny or at least

04:59:16.980 like try try to be funny um you have to be like i don't know like adventurous you have to be willing

04:59:28.500 to like explore like you can't be the type that's like oh no i don't want to do it like i don't i

04:59:33.940 don't like that if you don't like to explore your options like

04:59:40.900 yeah i get you with like the beard thing just like a random question have you ever found it like

04:59:46.740 giving you like acne oh my god not acne but i will it looks like carpet burn yes and it because i was

04:59:52.820 gonna say i feel like beards they they are i could say they're attractive but every like when my boyfriend

04:59:58.660 grows out his facial hair a little bit i noticed that i always just get like a pimple there i get

05:00:02.980 itch like yeah there's like a little bit of it it needs to be like a little bit longer when it's too

05:00:08.660 short it's just yeah it's like yeah attractive but not functional but i like when it's all grown out is

05:00:14.100 yeah well she likes long blonde hair and man we know we know her type like chris houndsworth i do not

05:00:21.700 like long hair on guys really i love long hair so much no guys attractive that have long hair but

05:00:31.860 personal preference i wouldn't like it either i think because like i don't know there's something

05:00:36.980 about it like we're supposed to be like cavemen living off the land like i don't know it's just like

05:00:43.220 a lot hotter to me yeah okay personality wise what do you like sense of humor is like a huge huge thing

05:00:50.660 for me but there's also like an energetic perspective like i think there's some people

05:00:56.180 that you meet that just bring your energy brings your energy up right away and you're just like

05:01:00.980 laughing and all the same page and then there's some people that just drain your energy so i think

05:01:04.740 that's like super important which is also why i prefer to meet people in real life but yeah that's

05:01:09.780 great yeah like deal breakers sense of humor i could never date a liberal or a moderate ever yeah i i think

05:01:17.940 i got that from like the last yeah yeah well i feel like one thing that i've not even that i've

05:01:25.620 looked for in someone but i've just found being in a relationship with my boyfriend now

05:01:31.060 was comfort and not just comfort in the way that it's just kind of like oh i feel comfortable just

05:01:37.540 talking to you and telling you how i feel that but also the fact that i'm like able to just come home

05:01:43.620 from like a really long day of work a lot of stress be excited to come home be happy to come

05:01:48.420 home and the second i walk through the door he's just like waiting there like relieving my stress you

05:01:53.620 know and that kind of comfort i believe in like what isaac i know he's not here anymore but what he said

05:01:59.780 about like it being your best friend i feel like when you're in like a good relationship like they're like

05:02:06.100 your best friend you know and you need the sexual aspect of it too but like i don't know that's how

05:02:12.740 i feel about like my current relationship right now like we were best friends before we ever were

05:02:16.980 in a relationship and with that being it's just like we do everything together and we genuinely like

05:02:24.340 doing everything together people are always like don't you guys get or ever get like tired of each

05:02:28.660 other like don't you ever need like a break from each other and it's like no he's my best friend

05:02:32.580 like i want to do everything with him like i'm happy doing everything i don't think you should

05:02:36.340 feel like you need to or i just think that's probably not your person it's like the place

05:02:39.860 where you can come home to and be yourself because out in the world depending on you know the situation

05:02:45.380 whether work friends family you're always going to have some sort of conflict or maybe some defenses up

05:02:50.180 so having that person where you can just come home to and kind of be fully vulnerable and not have to

05:02:54.740 have your defenses up i think that's kind of the best friend thing it sounds like that's what you're

05:02:58.340 describing yeah sometimes i find myself rushing home because i'm like yeah it's been a

05:03:02.500 stressful day i don't want to be i don't want to see anybody else do you and your boyfriend live

05:03:05.940 together yeah oh nice me too we've lived together for like two years now i think a good sign of that

05:03:11.700 too is when you just like can't something funny or weird happens during the day and you just like

05:03:16.100 can't wait to can't wait to go home until like babe guess what happened

05:03:19.060 i'm sorry to have abandoned you here q it's okay i know it was it's it was the most dull conversation

05:03:38.100 i've heard all night what you were getting really deep there guys i want a spazzy guy that like

05:03:46.580 let has spongebob humor that's my type like it's super weird like more going than me like spazzy

05:03:52.420 what's your what's your ideal person oh hold on i have a list

05:03:56.580 ring hold on let me see what's your type like physical physical and imagine to be honest i can't

05:04:05.540 even imagine i really don't know i don't know but i feel like this is where you're about to like put in

05:04:13.940 the dig like yeah i can only see you dating cave trolls brian um let me see yeah i mean yeah brian

05:04:25.780 i don't really like you so i'm just gonna say that you don't really like me either so it's fine

05:04:30.580 i don't dislike you you're just you're just not you're just you you're just you you know

05:04:37.300 it's just you know there's people i don't like a lot like oh you dislike me no it's okay i just like

05:04:49.060 like a lot more people you're like you're not like crazy crazy on the low you're not her top five

05:04:55.940 i'm in the middle yeah okay here we go so we're talking physical appearance uh let's see so okay you

05:05:03.460 have deal breaker deal maker slight preference strong preference so slight very slight preference

05:05:10.660 for dark hair very slight preference for blue eyes but like this is not like i i date women with

05:05:18.980 dark eyes like i don't really care uh medium preference for short women the shorter the better

05:05:27.620 so i'm trying to if any of you know a dwarf like hook it up i'm i'm trying it's not even like

05:05:33.700 brenna does but it's a man i'm so down for it to go with the door i'm trying to

05:05:43.780 fun size hello i like being she can spin around i like being tiny but yeah in the same way that women

05:05:50.820 women like to be tiny like yeah it kind of works in the opposite way like if she's petite yeah i'm

05:05:57.060 down if i can throw around or whatever the fuck you know i mean like i i don't have blue eyes and i

05:06:01.620 don't have brown hair and i'm not like midget tiny but like are you describing how much how much do you

05:06:08.100 weigh why are you asking like you're because i'm like wait wait wait bro you're engaged dude i'm not

05:06:14.340 interested just be honest but she doesn't have the right but i'm also like wait wait wait i don't

05:06:18.580 have blue eyes and i don't have brown hair it's hard to find a blonde with green eyes you don't dye

05:06:24.500 your hair i can see the yeah of course i dye my hair but like i'm blonde right now no you're not

05:06:30.580 blonde right now you want a natural blonde no i don't want a blonde at all you want a natural

05:06:35.860 dark hair i thought you said you didn't prefer dark no i preferred dark hair slight preference

05:06:40.500 for dark hair and wait what about the blue eyes slight preference for blue eyes but it's not like

05:06:48.100 that's that was brunna then were you she is dark hair and blue eyes

05:06:58.340 just keep going with your list and we'll figure it out large labia the bigger the better right

05:07:03.380 soft-spoken uh okay so clearly not definitely bro i kind of get the like bro you trying what what's

05:07:12.660 up no it's obvious you're like super into me relax dude i'm not into dad bods what i i do have a

05:07:20.100 dad bar i'm not into dad i need to lose a bit of weight i've been so stressed i am so just throwing

05:07:28.660 that out green eyes or blue eyes hazel she has hazel eyes she's a brunette how tall are you five

05:07:35.060 four she's pretty sure too tall too tall no i'm not saying that for brian i'm just saying in general

05:07:40.500 though legally i like a midget oh shit i oh fuck uh dwarf excuse me excuse me i'm

05:07:47.140 fucking canceled fuck little person little person is the correct um

05:07:51.380 um her parents made her do at least three years of violin or cello very important

05:07:58.740 by specific instruments or any instrument does not count piano i did a little bit of piano okay

05:08:07.220 um what about the triangle oh no makeup no plastic surgery no fake tits no lipo no bbl no lip injections

05:08:16.180 um minimal makeup no fake nails

05:08:24.100 slight preference for like if she has fake nails whatever it's

05:08:27.380 it's all accepted you're gonna find this girl no i know exactly where brian's gonna find this girl

05:08:33.540 a national park is where like an outdoorsy chick yes that's who you're describing exactly i don't like

05:08:40.500 say previously that you don't like outdoorsy chicks oh my god because they'd be trying to camp and

05:08:45.060 shit i'm not trying to play i don't like camping or like a hiker they don't like to camp they just

05:08:52.580 they're just outside you literally last show asked me how i wipe myself after taking a

05:08:59.540 shit with my nails without getting dirty yeah bro look at your fucking giant nails dude why do you have

05:09:05.460 this problem without your without long nails and you're like well she must have a really

05:09:11.060 big problem if it happens to me on the daily and i don't even have those things like i've just heard

05:09:16.420 up with i've heard anecdotes from chicks who got the long ass fake nails that they gotta wipe a

05:09:23.220 certain way yeah you have to know what actually is crazier i i don't that doesn't have you ever heard

05:09:30.420 what i think is crazier is how i can take my contacts in and out with them that's like that's

05:09:38.020 like a crazier thing order in the court stochastic decay donated 69 thank you man stochastic decay is

05:09:46.980 morbidly obese however stochastic decay has a lot of opportunities to eat junk food based on the ratio

05:09:55.140 of opportunities stochastic decay doesn't actually eat that much stochastic decay is going to start

05:10:02.020 eating like i don't know if you're obese because it's about the ratio but to be morbidly morbidly

05:10:09.220 obese then you actually did have to have ate a lot more than you're oh cameron seoden donated 70

05:10:17.940 for men aged late 30s early 40s who are still attracted to girls 18 to 22 would you say it gets

05:10:24.820 harder as we get older should we scale our age to older women should we scale our age wait yeah

05:10:34.100 silver men try to be attracted to older women as they get older i wouldn't say it gets harder

05:10:39.540 as men get older because younger women look for older men right well i mean you need to like once

05:10:47.220 you start getting into your 30s and 40s like you can't be like you need to be really solid if you're

05:10:53.380 gonna be like dating younger women you like it's like it makes sense to be attractive to younger

05:11:00.340 women younger women look younger and are prettier generally but it should be less bodies but then

05:11:08.820 intellectual compatibility is important you may be in like different places in their life so then from

05:11:15.380 that standpoint maybe not just depends on what you're looking for i think q what's your standpoint

05:11:20.260 on like cosmetic surgery do you find it unattractive yes like very unattractive is it like a deal like

05:11:30.420 no offense kristen christy sorry are my boobs and i just got them six weeks ago i don't have anything in

05:11:37.940 my face and i look great for 33 i'm not like pro plastic surgery but i am not against getting a

05:11:43.860 boob job or if if someone really needs a nose job or something like i'm not against it i don't i don't

05:11:49.140 have to do that i just got the boobs because i like them do you think you can like easily tell when a girl

05:11:54.340 has something done uh yeah it doesn't look natural it looks asymmetrical and like i'm gonna use you as an

05:12:03.220 example i can tell those aren't chores yeah obviously there's six weeks they haven't even

05:12:07.300 dropped yet literally just yeah on tuesday tuesday was the first day that i could actually go without

05:12:13.700 wearing a compression bra and officially start working out again but like look at my face like

05:12:20.660 i don't have work done to my face i don't have any plastic it doesn't matter i don't have any botox i

05:12:25.780 don't have any filler pretty proud of my face for 33 all right i'm gonna read these chats and we're

05:12:31.540 gonna try to wrap this okay should men adjust their age range as they oh as they older i think

05:12:38.500 no this if what if they're in their late 30s early 40s and are still attracted to girls 18 to 22

05:12:43.940 oh did i think we just wrote that one no that it was uh it was a little different i definitely do

05:12:49.860 think though that the older you get you should adjust it a little bit higher like but i feel like

05:12:55.140 for men it doesn't really matter because they're like the i feel like the older men get they're

05:13:01.060 always going to be desired by like younger women that's true yeah but we have to think about it in

05:13:06.420 the context of of everyday life as well like they can be attracted to 18 to 22 year olds but pursuing

05:13:13.460 is different you really have to have your shit together and you have to be really really

05:13:16.820 attractive at that age to attract a woman that young so yeah i mean like leonardo dicaprio i was i was

05:13:24.420 just thinking yeah exactly exactly i mean he's leo so he also attracts the younger woman because he

05:13:30.500 has that right in his status yeah exactly but should men adjust their age range as they get older well

05:13:37.940 if you're not attractive enough as an older guy you said late 30s early 40s to get a younger woman

05:13:45.380 then yeah i mean unless you just don't want like unless you're just purely absolutely 100 and not

05:13:51.460 attracted to older women but yeah if you can't get women 18 to 22 then you don't have a choice you

05:14:00.100 don't you're not in a very strong negotiating position so and speaking of like the plastic

05:14:05.300 surgery thing i think there's a lot of girls that get plastic surgery or like preventative botox or

05:14:10.420 whatever way too young and they start actually looking older than the girls that don't do that stuff so

05:14:17.860 yeah is that also this idea that plastic surgery makes women look younger you look the exact it's

05:14:25.060 the bbo code like everybody wants the hourglass it makes your face look wider here's here's a hot take

05:14:31.380 when it comes to plastic surgery i think it makes women look worse i do too i do too it's not even a

05:14:39.300 neutral that's the only thing i more so on like your face so i think it makes you look yeah all right we

05:14:45.380 have a chat here madison can you read this one the light of a reason can move us towards god but

05:14:50.900 through faith we are pierced by god's unapproachable light for when we contemplate is there a first

05:14:56.820 principle i'll pull that up the mind has already ascended beyond itself god is beyond knowledge and

05:15:02.900 unknowing all right there you have that okay we have sniper dose uh can you read this one brian one

05:15:09.940 person i would like for you to bring on the panel is at vanessa icenny icenny she's an of

05:15:16.420 model street vendor activist donates all her of earnings to charity and civil rights organizations

05:15:21.060 i'm calling bullshit on that all her earnings yeah i don't know just like yeah just like all

05:15:26.500 blms are in the black community girls are going around they're buying stuff here and they're like

05:15:32.020 guess how i pay for it yeah good please bring christy back as a regular she adds comedic humor

05:15:39.460 need a surgery update too cool i just got these though but i like being funny is the best compliment

05:15:47.540 for me i could get so way way way more than looks so all right we have j allen here i think he meant to

05:15:53.860 send this as craziest place you've done the deed go a lighthouse in hawaii a public lighthouse in hawaii

05:16:02.980 i don't know if i can answer because you're embarrassed or no you just haven't done it

05:16:09.300 anywhere it's just it's not with the guy i'm with okay yeah no comment i don't have any i've never done

05:16:17.700 the deed in the crazy buddies beach no not even my public lighthouse video is on my only fans if you

05:16:26.100 wanted to see what it looks like and it was way way before i made my only fans my hair is black and

05:16:30.820 it was when i was a pilates instructor and it is with my ex-boyfriend haron uh q aquarium aquari

05:16:40.820 it in the actual water no no in the water with the fish yeah yeah with the shark like those dark

05:16:49.860 tunnels that those dark tunnels that you walk through like right before you go in it was a

05:16:53.700 secluded corner i know exactly what kind of tunnel she had she had on the sundress i was horny i like

05:17:00.180 that turtles and stuff are you know that are in the little case what would you have done if someone

05:17:04.900 came by were you like thinking about that at all i go ahead and finish what i was doing it's already

05:17:09.780 too late at that point i'm like you already just be like don't tell nobody bro i'm stealing that idea

05:17:14.500 for a video i'm not gonna lie i just saw a video on tiktok of this like couple getting like confronted

05:17:19.780 by the cops because they did on like a ferris wheel and they got arrested yeah yeah i know what you're

05:17:24.260 talking about it's crazy i was just on it don't do it in public when i got here and um me and brennan

05:17:30.260 were saying like we think people like actually like fuck on these things all the time yeah they make

05:17:35.540 you take your picture before for the ride before the ferris wheel because i think they don't

05:17:40.500 accidentally want to get out on film because all the pictures are like yeah i've had the thought

05:17:45.460 like a couple times huh uh the beach for me oh whoops what okay the beach uh yeah that's it hey brian

05:17:55.060 any plans on michael knolls coming back on the show still waiting for the much anticipated

05:18:01.380 wait hold on what time at the beach like was there a lot of people there

05:18:05.460 it was night time so it's secluded what's that like pretty secluded yeah there weren't there

05:18:11.940 weren't other people okay oh did you want to finish this maddie

05:18:16.020 waiting for the much anticipated brett cooper episode also do you guys still think a courier

05:18:23.540 package delivery driver is a red flag for our profession uh no to that last part uh michael knolls

05:18:32.180 maybe i we were gonna have him on a while ago but like it fell through and then uh we'll try to get

05:18:39.140 him back on we are going to have on thursday the 7th we're going to do an off day thursday the 7th

05:18:45.140 we're going to have i don't want to reveal it don't reveal it yeah i'm not going to reveal it but

05:18:50.820 we are going to have an uh a daily wire guest on the 7th

05:18:58.660 pretty sure um okay i think we're all caught up uh oh wait we have this question for the blue dress

05:19:05.780 who is aaron fizzy terence pop or tom likens your hit youtube hit nothing not said before

05:19:12.980 good luck have fun i don't know what any that means sorry from new zealand okay uh thank you

05:19:21.620 angry casper thank you for the membership appreciate it um any final thoughts anybody

05:19:26.980 can we see what your main girl looks like yeah not on stream but like can you show just us like just

05:19:34.900 pass it around after the show if he wants to yeah i can show you all that okay cool

05:19:39.620 why you think i just want to see i'm just curious you're so judgmental christine

05:19:43.940 you're so judgmental no i really just want to see wait what is your type did you answer that yeah

05:19:49.940 was i think i missed it but yeah it's yeah i just like an attractive girl who's not overweight who has

05:19:56.260 a good waist to hip ratio okay and i like i like substance so i like somebody i can go to the library

05:20:01.620 with or i can go to the museum with stuff i agree with the substance i hate when i for drag queen story

05:20:06.500 hour yeah huh i said for drag queen story hour i'm just joking all right guys uh hope you enjoyed the

05:20:16.740 after show we will see you tuesday 5 p.m pacific with uh for the american gladiator special edition

05:20:26.500 whatever dating talk podcast uh it's gonna be a little different than our normal panel so uh

05:20:31.860 uh if you fuck with it sweet if not no worries uh oh seven's in the chat good night boys good night

05:20:38.260 guys and uh we'll see you next time

Whatever Podcast - August 28, 2023

She Is ＂Traditional＂ BUT Has An ØF？! ｜ Dating Talk #94

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