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00:02:27.940 going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location so where

00:02:33.500 you're from and occupation go ahead hi my name is jory i am 22 i'm from bakersfield california

00:02:41.960 and i'm here at ucsb as a student what are you studying i currently study psych and brain sciences

00:02:48.200 all right welcome one by you hi um my name is ali like maui i'm 21 from the valley um and i'm just

00:02:56.580 a student right now studying pr uh you're uh are you at a four-year university junior college right now

00:03:04.180 i'm at junior college okay is this like close enough yeah that's fine um yeah i'm gonna transfer

00:03:08.900 eventually i'm not like trying to you know rush it or anything i'm just like taking my time you know

00:03:13.080 and what are you you doing anything for work or i was working at shake shack but i got fired

00:03:18.480 why is that well you spin the fries i was actually good no i'm not gonna lie i was actually like pretty

00:03:25.480 good working there but like i showed up late a lot so that's my fault you showed up late a lot

00:03:30.320 not like too late though like five ten minutes you know stuff like that but you know corporate

00:03:34.100 yeah corporate i know right it's always their fault damn corporate okay just a girl sorry

00:03:40.320 would you do any content creation no not really i mean this is like my first

00:03:44.900 big thing so yeah but oh no no of right no okay good just check just check just check

00:03:53.600 my name is sonia i'm 23 i'm from the bay area and i am a engineering technology student

00:04:01.880 at a university all right welcome what about you i'm sophia and i'm 20 and i'm from san

00:04:09.060 calmeni california and i'm a student at santa barbara uc santa barbara okay what do you what

00:04:15.440 are you studying um econ and accounting all right welcome my name is maya i'm 21 i'm from san

00:04:21.960 diego i'm a third year at ucsb and i'm studying public policy and law and a minor in education

00:04:29.320 all right welcome my name is alexa i'm 35 i'm from venezuela born and raised in venezuela i've

00:04:36.360 been in the united states for 10 years now all right uh what do you do for work i i'm a producer

00:04:42.240 right now i'm a farmer in my own farm you're a farmer yes what do you farm what i have goats i

00:04:48.020 have chickens yes i'm growing my own food trying to be sustainable wow i'm i'm just getting into i

00:04:54.160 just started a year ago so send your word for me gotcha and you said you're from venezuela venezuela

00:04:58.380 um born and raised and so are you here you've got a green card visa i came here i came here with a

00:05:05.520 visa and then i you know i went to legalize that was a whole ordeal because immigration here has a

00:05:12.300 way to do stuff so um but i finally was able to you know yeah stay here in a legal way and

00:05:20.260 i'm married so i've been married for eight years now okay um very cool very cool and uh did you do

00:05:28.400 much dating in venezuela i i mean in my early 20s i they're babies like uh when i was around their age

00:05:38.240 yes i mean i used to you know go out and have fun um it's just different i think uh when you date uh

00:05:46.160 in united states and you date in a different country just because culturally speaking it's just

00:05:51.220 different the whole thing is different when i got here in 2014 i realized everybody's on an app

00:05:57.380 and a dating app that doesn't exist in my country like people actually go and meet in person and or in

00:06:04.160 a bar or hey but the the whole dating app for me was just like a new world and i was like wow how

00:06:10.460 how this works well we can get into that a little bit more later on what about you what's up guys my

00:06:16.200 name is taylor it's tay tay baby on youtube i advocate for men's mental health i'm 29 i'm from

00:06:20.440 los angeles california and i'm back y'all she's back she's back uh cool what about you uh my name is

00:06:27.860 mason gregoire i am 27 years old about to turn 28 um i am a mechanical engineer but i'm actually

00:06:34.520 going through a career change right now i'm going to join um air force special warfare

00:06:39.060 so it's quite the change for me but i'm excited and uh you went you got your bachelor's degree is

00:06:47.200 that correct yeah so i have my bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering i have two bachelor's

00:06:51.520 degrees actually mechanical engineering and natural sciences now but and we were talking a bit about

00:06:57.320 this before the show but uh you could go in as an officer right but you have to go in as enlisted

00:07:02.760 yeah so the special warfare pipeline is for enlisted okay um you can there are special warfare careers

00:07:10.060 for officers but i want to get the experience as an enlisted personnel first go through all of that

00:07:16.060 training kind of understand what boots on the ground looks like and then eventually try to work my

00:07:21.020 way up as an officer so why the switch up from mechanic going from mechanical engineer

00:07:25.360 and going into the military yeah i mean it's something i've thought about for five or six

00:07:31.740 years now when i lived in tennessee i've been thinking about going in as a navy seal like kind

00:07:38.380 of getting my education i wanted to get experience in the workforce as an engineer but i've always kind

00:07:44.480 of had this call to do something bigger than myself challenge myself physically mentally

00:07:51.380 uh see what kind of man i am and uh i'm finally taking the jump i'm really nervous because i know

00:07:58.840 uh the attrition rate for this specific um afsc is pretty high it's like 80 percent of the people who

00:08:06.940 try it fail and so and when when do you start when do you um so i'll the official process will

00:08:15.860 probably start they'll probably ship me off for basic training um probably two three months from

00:08:21.580 now okay i haven't gotten a date yet so it could be a couple months it could be longer than that but

00:08:26.180 we'll see good shit good shit well cool we're gonna go around the table once more we're gonna get

00:08:32.020 everybody's current relationship status so are you single excuse me talking stage situationship

00:08:38.520 friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult whatever it may be if you're single how long

00:08:43.980 have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting

00:08:47.480 with you go ahead well i am currently single i've been single for the last i'd say four years

00:08:53.340 and the longest relationship i was in was a year and a half is that it was a high school relationship

00:08:59.060 yeah okay one 1.5 years okay why did that end

00:09:04.320 it's a lot like it is a lot it's a lot should we come back to it why did it end who broke who broke up

00:09:13.760 with who well at first i tried to break up with him but he cried so i stayed for another year

00:09:19.940 and then after six months in checked out then he broke up with me oh i was waiting for him too

00:09:28.280 oh wait you were waiting for him to break up with you yeah because he he didn't like it when i

00:09:35.140 suggested it so i was waiting for him to go ahead and come to that decision wait did you say you

00:09:39.080 checked out or he checked out i checked out you checked out okay yeah yeah i mean he was the kind

00:09:43.880 of guy that got jealous of his own dog like in a romantic way no like i'm petting his dog and he's

00:09:52.100 jealous why aren't you spending time with me wait it's your dog his dog yeah his dog would be hanging

00:09:58.300 out with other people no he would get jealous of me oh when you were petting his dog instead of

00:10:03.860 hanging out with him okay wait he would if you were petting the dog his dog while you're at his

00:10:09.100 house why are you not petting me no seriously his i was petting his cat one time and he was like

00:10:13.920 well why aren't you cuddling me instead it's a cat yeah but was he saying that in a joking way

00:10:20.280 or was it like dead serious serious conversation yeah no he had some interesting

00:10:26.320 things little little wait so he was jealous of like not getting attention from the the pet or not

00:10:35.820 getting attention from you or both not getting attention from me oh huh but like pet the dog

00:10:42.360 with me yeah it's your dog is old yeah like pay attention to your dog were there any other like

00:10:48.520 instances that uh kind of drew this out in him like any like major fights like why did you do that

00:10:55.700 other than like pet related instances i don't know it was just weird we didn't get into fights too

00:11:03.020 often um we did get into a bit of a fight one time because like someone had come up to me in a gas

00:11:13.500 station and they weren't gonna leave me alone and so i told them hey i have a boyfriend he's in the car

00:11:19.380 right now and my boyfriend was sitting there the whole time didn't even care like that i was out pumping

00:11:25.080 gas and someone was coming up to me and like do you think it's because you guys are how old are you

00:11:30.320 right now right now i'm 22 and that was four years ago yeah i mean we were young so right so maybe it's

00:11:37.020 just because you guys were super young and sometimes experience comes with the with the years and you

00:11:42.560 know how you handle situations yes wait so six months in you try to end the relationship this is

00:11:49.740 what your junior year of high school it was my senior year of high school and he was graduating

00:11:56.260 to go to college okay so six months in you ended but then he starts starts crying you take him back

00:12:07.200 out of pity was it a pity it was a pity take back pity take back yeah

00:12:12.700 interesting that's something what was the scope of the like was he was it like like just a singular

00:12:23.260 tear or was it like full-blown waterworks what are we talking here full-blown yeah crocodile tears

00:12:31.260 full-blown waterworks um i think it was more so of a control issue because we wanted different

00:12:41.020 things in life there was no reason to argue for me to stay like go find what you want with someone

00:12:46.280 who wants the same thing and so but then you you got back with him but was there a period when you got

00:12:54.940 back with him where it was like good for a period or was it you were just like a hostage almost

00:13:01.980 it kind of felt like the the latter simply because he didn't believe on going on dates

00:13:09.280 there's nothing wrong with that so he was like a little bit he sounds kind of based not gonna lie

00:13:15.600 good for him that wasn't particularly what the issue was he just didn't he's growing on me he's

00:13:20.580 kind of growing on doesn't believe in dates he's growing on me wait so you what do you mean you just

00:13:25.420 want to hang out at the house and yeah okay cuddle you know that sort of not even he just wanted me to

00:13:32.520 be there interesting wait what was that patrice on nick do you remember the patrice on neil quote

00:13:37.980 men want hold on let me see if i can find it um but so it sounded like though you were trying to

00:13:48.740 like were you actively trying to make him dislike you so he would break up with you because that's

00:13:55.200 what it sounded like towards the very very nds but during the entire relationship i was trying

00:14:01.440 really hard to be a good girlfriend like i would notice his favorite pair of pants had a hole going

00:14:06.580 through him so i'd got him a new pair just because you know things like that but he did not believe in

00:14:13.900 reciprocating okay so like what would you what were you trying to do to sort of um what's what's the

00:14:23.680 right word here to like give him pretext for him to break up with you

00:14:28.640 well i started to flake on plans a little bit towards the very end but they were stupid plans

00:14:38.100 anyway what like you i thought he just wanted to hang out though not do dates no he wanted to do a

00:14:46.860 zoom movie and watch a movie on zoom on zoom yeah like so like separately we weren't even together

00:14:55.040 yeah yeah and it's a little too much yeah okay um oh i found the quote here from patrice o'neill

00:15:06.540 men want to be alone but we don't want to be by ourself i don't know if that applies here it might

00:15:17.180 he just wanted you like in the other room he didn't want to talk to you but just he wanted you

00:15:23.080 to be there he wanted someone who made him feel like he was in control of his life like he wanted

00:15:30.180 his life to go a certain way and he thought just by having a girlfriend it would happen sure like he

00:15:35.340 wanted kids and i already told him no like kids in the future or kids right then and there in the

00:15:42.220 future but i let him know that that was not on the table for me at all you don't want kids no okay um

00:15:48.460 do you think that might change at all or you didn't want kids with him or just no kids period no kids

00:15:53.620 okay no kids period well we will maybe we'll come back to that we can open it up to the rest of the

00:15:59.080 panel um and you said you've been single for four years yeah i mean i've gone on some dates but

00:16:04.500 i've been single the whole time but so when you say single do you mean like what's the longest

00:16:09.900 period of time that you've seen somebody for that four-year period maybe there's like what a three

00:16:13.720 month guy or something no one guy for like a week wait so the for the past four years your college

00:16:21.620 years the longest like con uh consecutive period of time you've dated somebody was a week yeah is it

00:16:29.560 maybe you're just not looking for something more serious or i'm kind of not really looking for

00:16:35.360 anything at all but if something happens it happens if it happens it happens okay uh

00:16:41.860 has there been somebody you wanted a relationship with but they didn't

00:16:48.520 no oh okay you're just a player then you're just a player being a player requires

00:16:55.140 playing with people i don't you don't you don't have riz well if you want to look at it that way

00:17:01.000 sure but i just don't really interact with people that often okay you're a hermit yeah you just stay

00:17:07.340 inside and play pokemon card with pokemon cards is that well i'm not inside all the time but when i go

00:17:13.740 well i'm by myself i mean so solo walk i guess so generally when i'm single i think of it as like

00:17:19.600 a period of time where i'm like i'm not talking to anybody like i'm not like no text messages like

00:17:25.460 there's no prospects like i'm not dming with somebody i'm not waiting like posting stories

00:17:32.400 on my instagram and then someone will send me something back like oh i'm starting to talk to

00:17:35.860 them like it's nothing it's like zero communication i think most guys it's that's like their definition of

00:17:42.900 being single like they have no prospects is that your definition of being single or are you kind of

00:17:50.100 like is there a guy here that's like checking up on you or like are you texting people like what do

00:17:56.820 you mean by it if they did not ask me to be their partner then we are not partners yeah yeah well i mean

00:18:03.580 like i'm not saying so i guess the experience of being single or like just not talking to anybody

00:18:12.140 for guys it's usually like we don't have anyone we're talking to like there are no prospects

00:18:19.600 whatsoever in your experience have there been periods of time where you're not actually talking

00:18:24.400 to anybody or what's your experience of singleness yeah yeah i would say over the course of the last

00:18:30.340 four years three and a half years were spent not talking to anyone okay um i just got into dating

00:18:37.620 recently but i have been disappointed so are you on are you on dating apps or were you on dating apps

00:18:44.460 i was but i deleted all of them they're when you when you say you recently got back into dating what

00:18:51.060 what does that mean like i went on a date with a guy and then we talked for like a week after that

00:19:01.020 and then i told him it wasn't working it wasn't working yeah why why wasn't it working

00:19:07.000 well on the very first date said date he had already been talking about marriage and kids and last names

00:19:15.000 that's too much a little soon a little soon uh and you don't want you don't want kids how did you

00:19:23.220 meet them dating app yes oh yeah okay wait so you said for the past three and a half years you've been

00:19:29.140 pretty much single so you've been celibate for that kind of kind of how can you be kind of celibate

00:19:38.600 for three and a half years how long have you been celibate then because it's sounds like

00:19:42.940 there's not been much i mean it doesn't happen much the carnal knowledge

00:19:49.680 but so you have you been you've been celibate

00:19:53.580 yeah i mean for how long

00:19:57.940 well

00:20:00.460 for maybe like two years oh okay it's not like i don't know that's kind of a long time

00:20:10.140 yeah i mean uh relatively speaking good for you though i mean if no one's out there there's no

00:20:25.420 point okay gotcha well we'll we can get come back to uh some of that stuff um but uh what about you

00:20:33.240 what's your situation okay so i'm single i'm pretty like happily single like i consider myself

00:20:38.820 um my last relationship ended like a year and a half ago like a year and a half two years ago

00:20:46.220 you've been single for two years yeah pretty much i mean i've talked there was like this one guy that

00:20:50.680 i was talking to for like three months and it went pretty well but i just i don't know it was just

00:20:56.280 you know yeah i could not really see myself going too deep into that and also like i enjoy being

00:21:02.240 single you know what i mean i feel like there's just other stuff that there's just sorry there's

00:21:08.060 just like stuff that you can do when you're single is stuff that you can't do like you know what i

00:21:11.340 mean so i don't know i'm like in my single era i like it wait what do you mean there's stuff that

00:21:15.720 you can do when you're single and stuff you can do you can't do what do you what do you mean what

00:21:21.020 do you what do you mean yeah okay so i mean let's say i go to like a bar go to the club with my

00:21:25.760 friends you know obviously at least like my last boyfriend

00:21:28.060 kd stands donated 100 hey bry sorry i'm late got some stuff going on tonight we'll have to catch

00:21:39.020 the pod later after recording question for the panel how do you feel about nala returning to

00:21:44.780 christ real or fake i mean i don't know if the people on the panel are familiar with who this

00:21:51.040 is fake fake what is it all right should we pull it up really quick nick do you have uh

00:21:56.620 i think i know who they're talking about but yeah i have uh it's on my twitter the spider-man

00:22:04.460 oh yes yes okay okay don't talk about god fake i'm gonna see if i

00:22:10.960 i've actually had a couple conversations with people about her i mean i don't know anything

00:22:18.920 about her but like people will ask me because they've seen me on the show what do you think

00:22:23.080 about that lady i'm like i'll find nick i'm gonna send it in the private chat i know nothing

00:22:29.200 about her what does that have to do with returning to christ wait what she was getting baptized and

00:22:34.640 all this stuff but she does of and she said she'll take somebody's man and she does that

00:22:38.480 whole like cheating thing i'll snatch your man right here okay she's wrong girl and she still

00:22:43.740 have only found it i believe yes christ what are you talking about well you know we might get her

00:22:48.440 on the show we'll see what she has to say let's see uh nick you got it ready yeah all right go ahead

00:22:54.780 you can play the audio or just mute it midway through if you oh it's not that one you sent a

00:23:00.340 different one yeah i'm pretty sure that's it just yeah that's it just go ahead just go ahead with

00:23:05.480 it we're just gonna play one this fantasy is not even my biggest it's like one of my fantasies

00:23:15.680 and then this is her getting baptized uh yep and you know she's she's been on the podcast two times

00:23:26.580 um and uh she does of or did of anyways um so for those of you who aren't familiar with her that's

00:23:35.860 the thing so the chatter is asking you think it's legit did she quit of brian yeah because if she

00:23:43.300 that's what she says that's what she says from from what i understand about the story it seems like

00:23:48.640 she had been doing of and then she got saved and then dropped all of that and then she got baptized

00:23:55.900 and all this stuff has happened um so i guess i can give my point of view on on it i am very slow

00:24:04.520 to say oh it's fake because i know god does incredible things he works in very incredible

00:24:09.660 ways i mean just look at uh saul turned into paul when uh christ himself appeared to him on the road

00:24:17.100 to damascus and said paul or saul saul why are you persecuting me and he changed his whole life and

00:24:23.300 he went on to write most of the new testament uh so i mean god can do some incredible things so i i

00:24:28.820 can't discount um uh what god can do but i want to see what her walk will entail because it could be

00:24:36.940 something like kanye where he like professes faith it like he gets connected with some good pastors

00:24:42.860 it looks like he's going in a good direction but then the people he surrounds himself slowly poison

00:24:48.720 that fruit that was there and he turns out to just be the uh the uh seed that was cast into

00:24:56.840 shallow ground and it was trampled so we'll see we'll see we'll see what uh you know what happens

00:25:02.440 with nala but uh hey thank you uh katia appreciate it you were telling us about things you can do and

00:25:08.840 things you can't do when yeah so i mean i think it also depends on like the type of you know partner

00:25:15.460 that you have and stuff you know their boundaries whatever they're comfortable with um i mean my

00:25:21.320 ex like he yeah i mean he was kind of like how you said really jealous even of just like me hanging

00:25:29.180 out with my friends stuff like just trying to live life like that shit stuff like pissed him off you

00:25:34.440 know because he was i guess jealous of me like in a way you know so um how did we break up his dad

00:25:41.040 actually broke us up uh yeah no and his dad was on my side he was like yeah basically like

00:25:46.660 stay the hell away from my son you know like he's you know how old was he um we had just turned 20

00:25:54.280 when we broke up yeah our birthdays are like two weeks apart young dude yeah would you say he's like

00:26:01.360 trying to be like that macho man i don't know i mean honestly the closest thing that i can say is

00:26:07.340 like he thinks he's like playboy cardi or something like you know i don't know man like

00:26:12.000 after we broke up i don't know like he just seems like the same different style trying to be like a

00:26:18.360 different person but the same headspace you know what i mean didn't grow at all just a very like

00:26:24.180 i don't i never want to like call somebody like a narcissist you know i know that's like never a good

00:26:28.680 thing to do but he had some tendencies i was just like you know very off-putting to most of like

00:26:34.780 my friends and stuff that he met okay uh you so you said you've been single for two years

00:26:39.940 your longest relationship was that was 10 months yeah 10 months okay but the guy you were just

00:26:46.780 talking about that's the guy you were seeing for three months was it yeah that was like some other

00:26:50.960 guy yeah some other guy all right a very some other very nice good gentleman so you've been single

00:26:57.580 for two years yeah just about how long ago was the three month guy it was like august to december

00:27:08.340 maybe okay so pretty recently oh maybe that was longer than okay okay what about you i'm in a

00:27:15.980 relationship right now how long have you been together uh it'll be two years in may like end of may

00:27:25.620 all right all right is that your longest relationship yes okay cool how did you guys meet

00:27:31.120 uh it's a funny story um i went to a death metal concert with my best friend before she passed away

00:27:39.500 um and she was high on molly and i was too shy to ask him you know hey can i have your snapchat so she

00:27:51.960 was like do you want to talk to him do you want me to talk to him for you i said yes and we kind of

00:27:59.920 exchanged snapchats in that way and we hung out after like two weeks of talking and it just went from

00:28:06.480 there he is younger metal band was it um chelsea grin and dying fetus

00:28:16.760 dying fetus what the fuck yeah i i listen to is it a christian death metal band no christian

00:28:32.320 but actually yeah very very good okay that's interesting um is that what you're you guys

00:28:41.400 thinking you're getting married you think um yeah i so for me i would get married like just for the

00:28:51.820 ceremony but i wouldn't make it official with the government based thank you um and i'm jewish

00:29:02.900 he's not okay so i would want supposed like hypothetically a jewish wedding which he doesn't

00:29:11.380 mind he's very kind of uh is he religious so he has seven other siblings um so he's mormon

00:29:21.020 no he's not but his mom is pretty is is pretty religious like she goes to church every sunday

00:29:28.680 um when my best friend was at the hospital she was she prayed for her and you know the the normal

00:29:39.720 prayer that people do when someone's dying in the hospital um but he himself is not he's not

00:29:46.720 religious he but he would convert no but you said you want to get married you're you're jewish right

00:29:53.540 i am yeah wouldn't my understanding is you'd have to you don't it it can be very reform so like

00:30:00.380 there's different level levels of judaism there's reform conservative and ultra orthodox which is funny

00:30:06.640 enough my older brother became extremely religious because so uh my parents are from the soviet union

00:30:15.980 they hated jews in the soviet union oh bro oh how are you gonna say that oh i'm sorry on the show

00:30:21.820 jesus christ okay i'm sorry but they weren't allowed to practice their religion is that tls

00:30:28.340 oh my god okay i'm sorry i'm sorry go ahead um but i mean it is it's you know fact but so when they

00:30:38.940 immigrated here they wanted us to go to religious school and um hebrew school to get our bar bat mitzvah

00:30:47.040 um so we weren't super religious like we didn't do the sabbath or anything like that um but as my

00:30:55.460 older brother got older he became very religious to the point where he moved to jerusalem um and he

00:31:05.940 is doing this thing called yeshiva which is kind of like a further learning of um judaism and so

00:31:12.880 uh he became very religious to the point where he doesn't even hug my aunt like he won't sit in the

00:31:22.480 same room as he won't sit next to a woman like so if he was here he'd have to be where you are and

00:31:28.220 then you'd be right here he can't be next to a woman um so he asked his rabbi he said can i my my aunt

00:31:40.080 and my mom are pretty pissed off that you can't you know that i can't hug you that i can't hug her

00:31:45.780 so his rabbi said only if she initiates the hug basically

00:31:51.620 yeah it's very different okay all right what about you okay i actually haven't um dated before like in a

00:32:05.540 like official relationship so i've been single for 20 years okay uh you haven't dated before in an

00:32:12.120 official relationship what about an unofficial kind of just like mostly talking stage i would say

00:32:18.260 and just like really casual yeah casual okay um

00:32:21.780 and so what what is that are you on dating apps have you been on dating apps

00:32:28.400 i have but it's kind of more just entertainment with my roommates

00:32:33.680 i would just say that when you say entertainment with your roommates is it just looking at the

00:32:40.920 profiles do you talk to the guys together yeah kind of like as a group it's like we'll all be on

00:32:46.380 our phones this is one of my roommates actually so we've done it together before um but yeah i kind

00:32:54.180 of like like i've done tinder before and i've done hinge and i just think that the people on there

00:33:01.280 like at least that i'm seeing are just like no one i'd want to date so it's just kind of fun to

00:33:06.940 have fun with it wait so you have you ever met somebody from one of the dating apps i have and i was and

00:33:14.660 it was like a one-time thing each time like i was not going to meet that person again what do you

00:33:19.280 mean each time a one-time like like like a one-time meeting each like that per like okay

00:33:25.160 the person that i had met i didn't like as soon as i like had met up with them and so that was like

00:33:32.220 i did not want to keep in contact but you went on there were a couple dates yeah different dates

00:33:36.620 yeah how many total meetups do you think you've had from the dating apps maybe like four

00:33:41.820 four okay you didn't like any of them no what what was the was there recurring theme here

00:33:48.920 what what was the deal i think they were just weird they were weird yeah like i mean what if

00:33:53.320 you're the common denominator i could be i could be the common denominator but i would i think most

00:33:59.380 people would agree that they were weird i think that there's just like wasn't that many people that

00:34:05.640 i had liked off of the dating apps and so like the people that are like most responsive to like

00:34:12.180 actually going on a date and like kind of initiating it are usually the ones that are more desperate

00:34:17.520 and so i think and i'm not the one to initiate it so i think that the people i did end up with were

00:34:24.440 just weirder and yeah were there people that you were interested from the dating apps that you were

00:34:31.240 interested in but they didn't initiate it yeah or like it would be kind of like a conversation would

00:34:38.240 start and then i'm also not a good texter so fizzle it would fizzle yeah okay so you went on four

00:34:45.620 dates each date just one date didn't go further and when you say dates like would you meet up for

00:34:52.160 for uh like a food or what like meet up at a party because you're you said you're 20 right i'm 20

00:34:58.820 so you're like not going out to bars or whatever yeah no so fake id but yeah so um i've like met up

00:35:07.680 like i've gotten a smoothie i've gotten like tea i went the most recent time was actually like fun

00:35:13.540 um i went like thrifting at the goodwill bins um that i had a lot of fun he didn't get anything

00:35:19.860 and i was like oh maybe this is just all for me like it was kind of wait he didn't pay like he didn't

00:35:26.020 pay he offered and i was just like no because i didn't want to see him again oh um so you didn't

00:35:30.960 you said you had a good time though i had a good time thrifting i had a good time thrifting but it

00:35:35.100 was like i could have done that myself it would have been a better time just alone yeah like it was

00:35:39.760 kind of nice to have like someone there but it was like yeah it was not is that an awkward date

00:35:46.160 to go thrifting with somebody first date i know i kind of thought so but i don't know i really wanted

00:35:51.460 to go thrifting so i was like yeah i kind of wanted to do that's something i wanted to do so at least

00:35:56.060 like even if the person sucked at least i would have fun what's so what's the longest period of time

00:36:01.280 moving off from the dating apps that you've been with one person um probably like a couple months

00:36:09.800 couple months okay yeah just kind of like talking because you said you've been single for your whole

00:36:14.300 life but yeah i can well like kind of going back to the definition of single i just for me it's always

00:36:20.160 been really casual and it's never been like an official relationship so i consider it myself so

00:36:24.860 you're talking like you've had friends with benefits i haven't even called it friends with benefits

00:36:29.400 like i feel like that is kind of like a funny name and if unless you're like what would you call it

00:36:35.140 i would just say i'm talking to someone i just i personally wouldn't say friends with benefits but

00:36:41.300 is there carnal knowledge what okay no is that okay i should just carnal knowledge friends with

00:36:49.240 benefits in like the definition like definitional use of the term friends with benefits like yeah you're

00:36:56.800 intimate with somebody yeah yeah like using that definition have you had friends with benefits oh

00:37:02.860 okay then yes okay i just yeah sorry yeah yeah and so why um but none of these guys well the guy you

00:37:11.380 were seeing you said for three months there's one guy it was it was like it was like summer like

00:37:16.320 summer maybe before college or i think was that summer um so yeah like a couple months or something

00:37:23.320 like that and it was like i don't know i wouldn't even say we were really friends so i don't know if

00:37:29.260 that really counts as friends how did you meet him i met him at my friend's birthday party okay so

00:37:35.200 summer fling three months uh who ended that me you ended it yeah okay and then the four dates you

00:37:42.820 went on what what do you think with the four dates that you went on off of the dating apps

00:37:46.860 were they was it a personality thing were they not attractive physically what do you think it was

00:37:52.520 there yeah kind of all of that uh i think they just look at their photos i did i mean they just

00:38:01.640 looked different they were catfishing you they kind of i mean yeah just like i see your profile right

00:38:07.480 now sure oh wait i know my phone went on me so actually no sure and it's okay we can't we can't

00:38:14.040 pull it up on the screen oh no wait so you're currently on the app right now are you like active

00:38:18.620 on it like yeah i have hinge um yeah like i think if anyone's like really been on hinge

00:38:25.980 like i don't know there's like no one on there like no one yeah i mean i think every girl can say

00:38:32.780 that all the guys are really ugly like all the guys i'm telling you your most compatible is like

00:38:38.360 okay well anyways wait no no go into that a little bit what do you mean all the guys are really ugly

00:38:44.140 on hinge well okay maybe not every single one but like the ones that you're able to access unless you

00:38:49.580 like pay like and i'm not gonna do that so um yeah they're just like usually really ugly and it's

00:38:55.720 just kind of like i open it i get scared and i get off yeah i haven't been on hinge and in like

00:39:00.880 over a year i got off all the dating apps but it maybe it's changed in that one year period but

00:39:07.240 uh you used to have like you could match with like uh i think if people liked you you had a

00:39:14.000 limited amount of matches you could do but to send a like it was like seven in a day has that changed

00:39:19.260 is it less now well you don't send out likes right it's like like rose like a super like or something

00:39:25.000 have they changed hinge i don't know it's been a while yeah i think um yeah i think you can

00:39:32.740 basically like accept like when people match with you like unlimited but then i think when you're

00:39:37.220 matching with other people it's limited but more than seven for sure wait so your primary thing

00:39:42.220 though with hinge is like the the dudes on there are just ugly yeah i mean yeah maya back me up

00:39:48.140 do you agree i'd have to agree but is that is that like the primary thing that you guys are

00:39:55.120 kind of wanting or looking for is like hot dude no like you can say it you can say no i really don't

00:40:01.660 think i'm like very superficial with that and i know i probably sound like i am but a little bit

00:40:08.060 it's okay but no i i actually am not um i just think that like i'm telling you i'm not being

00:40:16.240 superficial when i say like these people are like scary looking like and just like and it's not

00:40:20.520 even like looking it's the pictures themselves are just like it's frightening it's like the fish

00:40:26.560 photos no not even i i would i would prefer that honestly like i would it's like it's like people

00:40:34.140 that you don't know that if they like go outside or they have like a good life outside of like

00:40:39.020 just themselves if that makes sense okay you need to adjust your preferences

00:40:43.340 yeah i think hinge is also trying to get people to like pay yeah i agree i think maybe it wasn't

00:40:52.760 like that before i think now it's it's yeah it's definitely like turning into other dating apps

00:40:57.340 wait do you so who here currently has dating app profiles wait we should almost want to give you

00:41:03.620 we'll give you guys your phones we'll have you take screenshots of your profile we're going to do

00:41:08.340 dating app review so uh nick if you can get them their phones so take screenshots of all the photos

00:41:14.460 and then also the prompts you know how there's the prompts on edge um so take screenshots send them

00:41:19.560 individually to the whatever instagram page and uh we'll get those going so date no dating app

00:41:27.940 no dating app dating app i'm glad i deleted no dating app um and then we can collect we can collect

00:41:37.840 or should we just leave this here no just collect and then uh thank you nick so we're gonna we're

00:41:45.400 gonna do some deep dives into your guys's instagrams uh or not excuse me not instagrams dating apps

00:41:51.780 yeah everything nice and fresh not there yeah so we'll do that um wait and so where do you want

00:41:59.000 me just like uh oh yes the instagram at whatever on instagram just send it a message and just

00:42:05.040 individually send the screenshots that way what about like a screen recording no do do individual

00:42:11.020 screenshots so all photos and all prompts from there while you guys are doing that i'm going to move

00:42:18.840 on to you what is your relationship status i am single right now my longest like consecutive

00:42:26.640 relationship was eight months but then that was in high school and then after that i dated someone

00:42:33.700 like including like us talking and stuff like for probably two years

00:42:39.820 two years okay yeah when did that end that ended in september okay

00:42:47.520 wait you hold on september oh so that was the one from eight months ago that's how you said you've

00:42:53.900 been single for eight months yeah that's the one that yeah that was the one yeah and you were in a

00:42:58.280 talking stage for two years so no so we were talking then we dated broke up went no contact started

00:43:06.840 talking again dated broke up and then so the course of that was two years okay got it um

00:43:14.060 wait so talking broke up there's only one breakup though right or one two so you got you were together

00:43:23.380 three times twice wait so we talked dated broke up and then we talked again dated again and then broke

00:43:31.440 up again okay i see who who broke up with who in each of those instances i broke up with him both

00:43:37.620 both times okay good times what about you i've been married for eight years now um so it's not that

00:43:46.300 much like married eight years did you say how you how did you guys meet so we met on set because we

00:43:54.260 both we both work in the entertainment industry um and uh we they we met in july we moved together

00:44:02.200 in october and we got married on february and i see we have been married for eight years wait for both

00:44:07.400 of you can you send the photos like one by one because on desktop it won't load it uh like in a

00:44:15.000 group so just send them one at a time what about you tay um single as a pringle i had dating apps but

00:44:20.840 i deleted them because i had a bad experience and yeah i don't want to talk to anybody anymore

00:44:25.680 oh yeah scared me shit was that recently yeah it did bad shit sorry to hear i'm beginning anxiety

00:44:34.620 over guys sometimes damn too jealous for me too jealous uh-oh that's it that's a yikes

00:44:42.400 mason what about you what's your uh um single uh yeah my longest relationship uh a year um but

00:44:54.500 yeah that's about it yeah and you're uh you're waiting until marriage correct you're correct

00:44:59.820 yeah waiting until marriage i'm a virgin i've covered this before but yeah for those who do not

00:45:05.700 know who i am good times yep good times good job good she says good job anybody is anybody else

00:45:14.280 any other virgins here where you look at me no i don't know i'm just i get down nobody else a virgin

00:45:21.340 nobody gustavo gustavo he's okay it's very admirable honestly yeah yeah uh nick are you getting

00:45:31.680 those pulled up okay we're getting sorry we're getting the tinders pulled up guys while you're

00:45:37.000 doing that uh let me just check one thing here do you have any chance no we're good on that front

00:45:43.380 guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drops a fall in the prime sub also if you can like the video guys

00:45:48.800 get us to uh maybe 3 000 likes oh there it is twitch.tv slash whatever drops a fall in the

00:45:53.980 prime sub if you have it thank you so much uh numb eyes ghost eagle anonymous gifter gildo horn

00:46:00.360 sweet silence fire cap and wall a for the tier one thank you guys appreciate it uh twitch.tv slash

00:46:06.840 whatever drops a fall in the prime sub if you have one thank you guys appreciate it you got it nick

00:46:10.880 uh yeah i got the first one okay work on we'll work on the first one we who we got here we got

00:46:16.500 how do you say your name again why owie like maui owie literally maui without the m owie

00:46:22.120 that's me like owie yeah owie like a don't don't even i already know you don't like that one

00:46:27.800 i'm so used to it i'm just like i hear it you hear it too much yeah i guess i get the same thing

00:46:33.700 with brian they're like brian loose pussy energy donated 100 dollars brian lil dicky looking

00:46:41.020 motherfuckers should be the last person calling dudes ugly these busted as 304s be cracking

00:46:47.700 okay yeah i said it do some hashtag get the rocks hashtag lay by honest hashtag stop cappin

00:46:55.880 do you guys want to respond he's i think it's okay get the rocks i mean what else

00:47:04.120 can we see what you look like loose pussy energy what's up with that lp um they want to see what

00:47:12.560 you look like lp they want to see what you look like um i got them ready it looks like i only got

00:47:17.920 two photos from you oh okay wait did you mess up one of them um twice yeah i so that one i messed up i

00:47:25.000 think the other ones are still sending oh okay yeah uh sure yeah let's do owie we'll wait

00:47:33.240 all right let's just get this over with all right this is owie's hinge profile so chat are you swiping

00:47:42.740 yes yes on owie uh okay we'll instantly hit it off you laugh about everything we turn up to bangers

00:47:51.240 into in the whip you down for whatever whenever wherever i like that last in my defense i haven't

00:47:57.400 changed this in like a really long time defense is noted uh next you should not go out with me if

00:48:07.000 you're not a munch hold on here what what it what's a munch for me really just somebody who eats coach

00:48:15.240 like so wait deal breaker if the guy doesn't eat pussy if you're like i mean i'm not gonna like

00:48:23.320 you know it's not like you have to do that every like two hours or something but if we're like having

00:48:27.560 sex and you don't want to like you know eat the cat then it's i don't know i mean if i'm gonna like

00:48:34.040 you know do that for you you better do the same you know there's some people who really don't so

00:48:38.920 um i agree um you agree yes who here who else agrees let's go around the table on this deal

00:48:46.040 breaker if the guy doesn't eat pussy yes especially if they want their dick sucked oh my god another one

00:48:53.640 thank you no are we talking about this i feel like it's kind of just fair i don't know so fairness yeah

00:49:01.160 like well that's so she's her point was yeah especially if the guy wants to be

00:49:09.080 reciprocal pleasure but just is it a deal breaker let's let's remove the reciprocal pleasure thing

00:49:15.720 from this deal breaker if he doesn't do that wait hold on i wanna i wanna wait so i'm not saying i don't

00:49:23.160 think that you should do that with any stranger every time that you go on a date or every time that you

00:49:28.840 meet someone i don't think that should be happening for me sex is sacred and i think anything that

00:49:34.920 involves that uh but at the same time when you find the person that you love and you want to be with it

00:49:40.680 i think all that needs to happen because i mean you're gonna spend a lot of life with that person

00:49:48.200 i agree with that yeah so in your own words though yeah i would say that like yeah if it's just a like

00:49:55.800 a random hookup i'm probably not going to expect anything but if it was someone that i'm like

00:50:00.760 planning on like having a more serious relationship with then yeah it probably would be a deal breaker

00:50:05.640 in the long run i don't think it's a deal breaker okay we heard from you tay no it's not a deal breaker

00:50:15.160 mason what do you think mason uh actually there is um there's a bible verse that hits on

00:50:24.280 not this topic explicitly but it talks about um a spouse who's unwilling to uh give their body to

00:50:33.240 their other spouse so it's it that's in first corinthians i think i can't remember the exact

00:50:39.320 reference but it says that your body is uh that you already give your body to your spouse for them

00:50:45.400 to use and for you to be able to use their body as well you're supposed to be one you become one

00:50:50.600 exactly so in the context of marriage um i will keep that between my wife and i but uh yeah anything

00:50:59.320 goes yeah i'll also say please like just don't take that too seriously like the whole i took it

00:51:05.960 pretty seriously wait so we're serious here deal breaker if the guy won't go down i'll get my take on

00:51:12.600 this i don't do that why not though i don't do that is it maybe because like you know you don't

00:51:19.080 like the other person enough or are you like afraid i'm a fan of labia don't get me wrong i like so i

00:51:26.440 like that maybe you haven't found the right person yeah i've found the right i've found throughout the

00:51:32.040 years i've had long-term relationships but it's not your thing i'll do anything for love but i won't do

00:51:38.680 that damn that's just i'll do anything are you worried you're not good oh i'm good the the three

00:51:47.160 times i did it back in who's gonna vouch for you that you're good administration this was back at

00:51:52.200 the last that's the last time i went down on the girl was the bush administration no pun intended so

00:51:59.560 are you gonna like yeah like like how it's been like a over a decade a decade and a half wait

00:52:04.440 so yeah decade and a half yes it's been a while shit i don't understand why i wouldn't do it

00:52:11.400 i understand that she gets it she gets it i'm a fan of a lot of girls who are really like 304s and

00:52:19.640 like they're doing that with every guy yeah well that's just not saying i'm a munch and all that

00:52:23.960 that's gonna make a guy think you've always get your boxy and that looks bad i wouldn't want to i'm

00:52:28.120 good relationship or no i'm out well certainly like i mean my position is i just don't do period

00:52:35.960 but uh now hold on let me just let me add a little bit here i do care about my partner's pleasure so

00:52:43.000 it's my goal i want her to come first she's got to come first preferably multiple times but not

00:52:51.160 that way you know what yeah that actually makes sense because there's only okay well if it's like

00:52:57.160 only one guy has ever made me like bust with his meat you know what i mean so yeah i know it sucks

00:53:03.960 right so with his meat me like oh this is his peeing yeah his pee pee yeah yeah so

00:53:11.160 hands there's hands shit you can even employ toys bust out the toys but i've never at least

00:53:21.240 for me like the that's some that's just something that i like you know what i mean like i oh sorry

00:53:25.880 sorry okay like i would i would want top you know what can i say word like i want head and i feel

00:53:33.880 like that at least for me that's like the easiest like okay well sorry like hey i that's the kind of

00:53:40.520 like my thing that i like so you know like when i do that i like it's hot i bust a nut and then you

00:53:46.200 know we maybe i return the favor you know maybe not maybe i already did and then you know we go into

00:53:51.080 fucking wait you maybe you return the favor maybe you don't always like depends on like the situation

00:53:57.320 you know like if you want to like give me top and then boom like straight to fuck like okay smash

00:54:02.840 you know but yeah well i'll start off by this look for i don't do it across the board but

00:54:10.520 if there's viewers male viewers in the chat who are inclined to do it i would at least recommend

00:54:15.640 you don't do it during casual hookups i agree i think you know yeah like that's definitely not

00:54:22.920 these people be multiple people at the same time i don't know why i also put that on there is just

00:54:28.120 that like if you're if you're like not the type of person to give head then you're probably not you

00:54:33.400 know just i'm not asking for it like off rip you know that's a little i don't even yeah you i think you

00:54:39.640 probably are though what do you mean you want it you want it first time you want it first time

00:54:45.080 that's not me that's really not me well okay so having it on a dating profile kind of gives that

00:54:50.280 image that you like you're that kind of girl who will put out that way like with every guy you date

00:54:57.240 date so like i don't know maybe take it off the profile you can like that's fine you can put

00:55:04.120 i definitely don't but like you can like like there's a certain amount of selflessness that comes

00:55:13.160 with like trying to please your partner but like maybe you can frame it in a different way because

00:55:20.040 the guys are going to reel in with that how's she going to frame it on the day i'm not saying i wish for

00:55:24.440 man to go below the no no what's that called on maps like the not a bad thing to have on a dating

00:55:34.360 profile i think it definitely is there to prevent i mean if you are dating sorry i do want to answer

00:55:42.680 your question how you said like you said what exactly am i because if you're looking for just

00:55:46.520 messing around and have your body and all that showing and say i'm a munch but if you're looking

00:55:49.800 for a husband i think you should probably change that type of stuff because i'm a munch if i seen that i

00:55:53.480 would think you're like a 304 i'm trying to smash yeah a strumpet what is that i've never heard

00:55:59.240 that before a strumpet there you want to know okay i'll i'll just assume but um i'm definitely not

00:56:05.720 looking for my husband i know i'm so like not she's looking for a munch oh okay that's what she's

00:56:09.880 looking you're looking for a munch right she wants a munch well a munch yeah but you know like more than just

00:56:15.400 like a killer of cereal donated 100 just remember if you have sex with one person you're having sex

00:56:23.720 with all of the previous people that they had sex with certain things you just can't get rid of

00:56:29.640 would you ever let a guy raw dog you raw dog is just like raw sex right yeah yeah like but not not just

00:56:38.040 like random though you know what i mean if we had already had how do i explain okay so at least like

00:56:44.920 the way that i look for it or like go on hinge whatever i'm trying to find somebody who i'm just

00:56:49.640 like at least compatible with personality wise like you know gotta be a munch huh they got to be a munch

00:56:55.560 oh yeah i mean no yeah yeah but i don't mean you know like personality that does matter yeah no okay

00:57:02.120 let me finish okay okay you got this you got this so basically like i'm not looking for anything too

00:57:08.280 serious on this app right if i was i would not be on this app mostly i'm just yeah they're just any

00:57:15.000 period you know i'm trying to find somebody like hey like we can catch a vibe catch maybe like yeah

00:57:19.400 you know like after work whatever kind of build the relationship to like we're close enough that like

00:57:24.200 we're friends but we have sex maybe we're not like having too much um like expectations of each other

00:57:31.800 because at least i'm not um i have a question um is this the reason why dating apps are so bad now

00:57:36.840 because i thought dating apps were for people who are introverted and don't can't go out and date

00:57:40.680 that's the reason why i got off of them because guys would talk to me like if i posted stuff like

00:57:44.440 her and i never posted like my body or certain things and i just feel like a lot of people ruin it

00:57:49.720 like the stuff you're saying i'm like jeez for all the people who want love and don't go out like

00:57:53.240 i'm a youtuber i never leave my house and i go to school like you guys are ruining it for all the

00:57:57.000 people who want love and stuff i think it's kind of i didn't think it was for like sleeping around

00:58:01.480 i mean i think it's actually pretty common well hinge i feel like is a little more serious like

00:58:06.440 you have tinder and i don't know what's i don't know what's going on yeah tinder is like look but

00:58:12.840 people can find relationships even from tinder but tinder is a bit more hookupy hinge seems a little

00:58:18.280 bit more serious but you'll have people on there who are like looking for marriage and then you'll have

00:58:23.000 people on there who are just looking for like casual casual dating so it's like a mixed it's a mixed bag for

00:58:28.920 sure on tinder so i don't think what she's doing is necessarily out of the out of the norm i have

00:58:34.680 never heard someone saying oh i met my husband or my wife in tinder or i have never met anyone i don't

00:58:40.280 know if any of you but i have not and then before my husband and i got together he have two girls that

00:58:45.960 he met on tinder and we have to put a restraining order on both of them like that's how bad i think

00:58:53.000 yeah that's how bad i think the the and how low the vibration is in in in that type very

00:58:58.920 low vibrations vibrations are low yeah yeah like whenever you go into those apps you have to have

00:59:05.800 your filter on wait who was asking about the was it the previous chat sorry killer of cereal he was

00:59:13.080 saying oh the roth well actually really quick just going around the table really quick uh who here is on

00:59:18.360 birth control yes uh no yes i have an iud okay i also have an iud iud or something i'm on the pill okay

00:59:35.880 mason you're right what's your what's your form of birth control uh the bible

00:59:42.600 there it is okay uh all right wait hold on just curious um do you but you take birth control is it

00:59:51.160 to like regulate your something to regulate my hormones i do have pcos okay got it all right so

01:00:00.360 no yeah i wouldn't do it what the oral sex thing oh okay there's other ways there's other ways you

01:00:09.000 know like that should you guys if you got bust out toys even that's preferable for me that's like

01:00:14.520 you know for other people though i i like the feeling of like a like a mouth down there after

01:00:18.760 you've been after you've been married for a while you know especially a while you're gonna you're gonna

01:00:23.320 start doing all this stuff like i don't think so i'm pretty steadfast nick i am steadfast in my

01:00:31.480 steadfastness okay let's go back to the ever just say to a girl like no i don't give head like

01:00:36.600 any time like during the first date no no no if your wife approached you and say hey brian i want

01:00:42.760 to do this and you've been with her for 10 years now you will you say no i'm not into that or what

01:00:50.120 would you say hey i'm gonna try and i'd say uh not really my thing wow dang hey that's the way it is

01:00:58.840 she what do you mean she would know going in you know that's how it is yeah but after yeah but

01:01:03.160 relationships just they change they evolve and then and you know now but here's a question for

01:01:08.280 you sometimes you get bored here's a question for you let's say you're in that situation and you

01:01:14.040 your husband you accepted that your husband doesn't want to do that but then eight years into the

01:01:20.520 marriage just like you said you want to

01:01:25.960 have oral sex but he still doesn't you have a conversation and he's steadfast and he says no

01:01:33.400 do you push it yes or do you drop it no i'll push you push it yes oh that seems a little like not

01:01:40.120 respecting his sexual boundaries when you're being married for someone for that long you have you feel

01:01:45.560 comfortable enough to say hey i would like to try this and if you don't like it then i'll what oh he

01:01:51.960 so you're saying he he has to try it of course how you how are you gonna say something now if you

01:01:57.080 don't try it first well what if he did with i don't know this is getting a little imagine if

01:02:02.200 a guy said that there's so many women who don't like to suck fun dip and if a guy said you have

01:02:06.440 to do that you would be so mad at that no we're talking about marriage we're not talking about

01:02:10.680 dating casual or with yeah we're talking about i'm talking about marriage that's a preference if

01:02:14.760 you don't want to or you don't want to you don't have to wait but do you think yeah you don't but you

01:02:18.440 can try because you want to please your partner and see if he goes well or not and then you can

01:02:25.080 make a decision together but you don't like it after that look you you have to when you're first

01:02:30.360 with someone for so long you are capable to do a small sacrifice to please your partner and vice

01:02:36.360 versa because marriage is give and take it's never going to be give me give me give me or me

01:02:41.960 compromise yes and you have to do no compromise i don't agree with no compromise not always wait

01:02:49.640 but hold on are you are you religious by chance are you religious at all okay so is your relationship

01:02:54.360 50 50 no it's never going to be do you want him to be like the leader in the relationship he's the

01:02:59.560 leader he's the leader yes but how are you going to say you would like i mean i know you're not

01:03:04.040 presently in this situation with your husband but if he's the leader and his final word is i'm not

01:03:11.720 going to do that and you're going to be like no no no you are that's not really following our

01:03:17.800 leader wouldn't do that if a mindful husband yes a leader of course would say no sir i don't really

01:03:23.880 i don't want to be like i'm the leader and because as as my job and my dude as a leader i'm gonna well

01:03:33.960 there are certain okay no no no no no no i have to considerate of those they're leading okay i have

01:03:41.240 to kind of push back at this like let's go you got this other things okay if you take into example like

01:03:49.720 any leadership structure in the entire world where you talk about hierarchies in the animal kingdom

01:03:54.840 whether you talk about corporate structures when a boss or someone in leadership above you says

01:04:00.360 no this is not going to happen or yes this is going to happen their word goes it doesn't matter

01:04:05.240 what you think like if your boss says i need this project done tomorrow does not matter how you feel

01:04:10.440 about it you can compare that with a marriage yes yeah you can no you can't yes and that's no i'm

01:04:16.120 talking about because i've been married for almost a decade my dad why is this the only okay okay

01:04:22.760 hold up hold up right now other other things too i mean like the stuff that you're talking about

01:04:27.320 you know it kind of makes it what what you're saying is like what i say goes as a husband what

01:04:31.880 i say goes and i mean there's okay it's like there should be definitely well okay so okay hold up

01:04:36.600 hold up so the people that that is following i'm not saying that like if i go if my boss tells me

01:04:43.720 i need this project done tomorrow i can tell him hey that time frame is i can't do that i cannot meet

01:04:51.640 that per time frame you can't compare so yes you can well because it's leadership okay

01:04:57.080 if you're talking about bond donated one hundred dollars married chick i don't have to try something

01:05:03.400 to know i never want to do it what if your husband asks you to peg him that's a wild date

01:05:11.480 i mean i'll try if that's what he wants so if we're talking like what you're talking about

01:05:17.560 we're gonna be together for the rest of our life we better so what you're talking about he's not the

01:05:21.800 leader then you guys are co-partners if you're talking if you say that you guys are co-partners

01:05:27.800 in the relationship then we can have a conversation because then we can disagree but what you're

01:05:32.120 describing is co-partner he's the leader of the house well he's not the leader of the house if you

01:05:35.960 describe it the way that you're describing it like you guys have equal say in what's going to happen

01:05:41.400 at the end of the day the leader makes the final decision if that's not true then he's not the leader

01:05:47.560 then you guys are in a partnership relationship if you guys are like definitions are important

01:05:52.840 when i spit out the word leader where underscore is underscore the underscore empathy donated one

01:05:58.360 hundred dollars you dudes are confusing leaders and bosses absolutely yeah no leaders have advisors

01:06:05.560 no what what okay what does a leader do explain that to me a leader takes charge they take charge

01:06:13.240 you serve through yeah what does a leader do so okay so takes charge or serves which is it

01:06:20.760 take charge definitely but they have advisors they have people they talk to okay it's not just

01:06:26.360 all on their like well i'm not saying that the wife has like no stay silent woman i'm doing what

01:06:31.880 i want to do i will ask like my dad i'll take my dad as an example he listens to my mom like she is

01:06:40.600 the first person he'll ask like advice from hey this is going on what do i think what do you think we

01:06:45.960 should do we're going to talk about this it's going to affect our family our marriage she'll give her

01:06:50.040 opinion but then my dad makes the final decision and he's made plenty of decisions that my mom disagrees

01:06:56.600 with but because he is the leader he has the final say and that's what leadership is you have the final

01:07:03.320 say and with that final say comes responsibility so if it doesn't pan out the way that it you wanted

01:07:10.200 it to pan out it is now you are responsible for that failure so that's the responsibility of the

01:07:15.400 leader as well there's given you are also mindful of the decision that you're making killer of cereal

01:07:20.760 donated 100 say you meet a date from an app and you really hit it off but it's not marriage material

01:07:27.640 how many dates would it take for you to accept no protection sex or are condoms mandatory in any

01:07:33.880 scenario how many dates would it take for you to accept was this directed at somebody in particular or

01:07:44.120 i don't know we'll go around the table on that really quick why not uh

01:07:51.160 i personally wouldn't do that at all i even with someone who i am going to get married to the condom

01:07:57.800 staying on never had she doesn't want kids remember i don't want kids that's why all right um

01:08:06.840 um what was the question again how many dates would it take for you to accept uh sex without a

01:08:13.560 condom no protection um first first date hell no chill just be honest just be honest

01:08:22.440 she said munch no it also depends you know on okay well i'm not okay let me finish man go ahead okay

01:08:28.280 go ahead so it's definitely not like a particular like number of dates or anything but you know once you

01:08:33.800 get to know yeah i think it literally is and also it's also safe or you know the safest to like go

01:08:39.080 get tested together get your results together see if you guys have anything have unprotected sex

01:08:43.960 if we're like going on to like the thing about you know do you do that though people say that but

01:08:50.600 i'm like do they do it no and that's my fault but definitely going into the future though truth

01:08:56.840 bomb donated 100 dollars have to say if your husband asked you to pick him pretty sure he's

01:09:03.000 gay that is something a straight guy is gonna do ever what does the panel think if they were in this

01:09:09.400 situation oh i missed the pegging thing what yeah they were they were saying uh what what they were

01:09:15.880 saying they were saying if if your husband if i was comfortable if my husband would you do it yeah i

01:09:22.200 mean so wait truth bomb wants me yeah oh wait seven seconds trillion seven hundred and seventy

01:09:28.920 seven seven six billion seven hundred seventeen uh like the video guys hundredand seventy seven

01:09:34.200 quadrillion seven hundred and seventy seven trillion seven hundred and seventy seven million seven

01:09:39.640 hundred and seventy seven million seven hundred and seventy seven thousand like the video guys

01:09:44.120 This guy's twitch.tv slash whatever twitch.tv slash.

01:09:47.340 My sprinkler goes like this.

01:09:54.200 Do they do that on purpose?

01:09:55.900 Do you have to do that on purpose?

01:09:56.920 It comes back like this.

01:10:02.300 That's why I think you guys want me to get up and get what you want me to do.

01:10:06.420 That was awkward.

01:10:07.600 Okay.

01:10:07.720 So Truth Bomb was asking to go around the table on the, would you be, let the guy, or you want to peg the guy?

01:10:19.160 Is that the question?

01:10:19.840 If your husband asks you to do it?

01:10:21.480 Yes, if your husband asks you.

01:10:22.500 Husband, boyfriend.

01:10:23.560 And if that means he's gay, that's also the question.

01:10:26.420 Can we pull the question back up?

01:10:28.160 Well, so he sent in two.

01:10:29.560 So related to this conversation, would you let your boyfriend, husband, whatever?

01:10:36.000 Or would you, would you peg him?

01:10:42.220 I really don't know.

01:10:42.940 Thank you, Truth Bomb, for this great fucking question.

01:10:46.380 That's awkward.

01:10:50.240 Maybe if they had the stuff already, because I'm not buying straps and stuff.

01:10:54.480 He has the stuff.

01:10:55.660 Yes.

01:10:56.220 No.

01:10:56.640 It's like Arby's.

01:10:57.460 We've got the meats.

01:10:58.660 Try it, but.

01:11:00.420 You try it, but you.

01:11:02.420 Probably not something.

01:11:03.660 Not your thing.

01:11:04.820 Yeah.

01:11:05.060 Okay.

01:11:05.500 What about you?

01:11:06.820 Um.

01:11:07.940 Doggy style, too.

01:11:09.900 Why?

01:11:10.460 Okay.

01:11:10.940 Um.

01:11:11.360 I don't know.

01:11:11.840 I just.

01:11:13.160 I'm definitely not like a never say never kind of person, but like, is that like.

01:11:17.560 I don't know.

01:11:18.220 Like.

01:11:19.840 Yeah.

01:11:20.220 I don't know.

01:11:21.480 That sounds like a no.

01:11:22.500 Okay.

01:11:22.800 What about you?

01:11:23.280 Let's just do a no.

01:11:24.260 No.

01:11:26.840 I mean.

01:11:28.700 Probably.

01:11:29.360 I don't really know.

01:11:30.420 I think I'd be like.

01:11:31.400 Depending on like a case to case scenario.

01:11:33.780 But I don't think.

01:11:34.520 Wait.

01:11:34.720 What is the case?

01:11:36.420 Well, like.

01:11:36.840 What's the case?

01:11:37.260 Depending on like.

01:11:38.900 If I'm married.

01:11:40.000 Okay.

01:11:40.240 If I'm like very in love.

01:11:42.120 Do I think it's going to end?

01:11:43.660 Like, you know, just like kind of stuff like that.

01:11:45.460 So you wouldn't do it?

01:11:47.220 If I.

01:11:47.860 If what?

01:11:48.660 I wouldn't do it.

01:11:50.700 If like.

01:11:51.460 Like I was not in love.

01:11:53.120 Or like I was.

01:11:54.320 You know.

01:11:54.440 It was going to end.

01:11:55.580 Yeah.

01:11:55.960 Uncomfortable.

01:11:56.560 Somehow.

01:11:56.980 Like I was uncomfortable with doing it.

01:11:58.840 Then I wouldn't do it.

01:12:00.080 But.

01:12:00.880 Okay.

01:12:01.200 But thinking.

01:12:02.160 But like I wouldn't not do it.

01:12:03.820 Because I would think.

01:12:04.940 Hold on.

01:12:05.580 I don't think it would make him gay.

01:12:08.100 There you go.

01:12:08.760 So like I.

01:12:09.460 That wouldn't be a reason not to do it.

01:12:10.680 All right.

01:12:10.960 What about you?

01:12:12.180 I'd agree with that.

01:12:13.060 But I'm leaning more towards now.

01:12:14.720 Okay.

01:12:15.600 I wouldn't do it to a stranger.

01:12:17.500 But if.

01:12:17.660 Your husband.

01:12:18.160 Yeah.

01:12:18.600 I mean.

01:12:18.880 If you want me.

01:12:19.620 I can try.

01:12:20.400 I mean.

01:12:20.800 I will make the sacrifice.

01:12:22.080 If you want me to.

01:12:23.160 You wouldn't like.

01:12:23.740 Which I had never asked me for.

01:12:25.280 By the way.

01:12:25.720 But.

01:12:26.200 But you wouldn't.

01:12:26.580 It wouldn't shift.

01:12:27.720 How you feel towards him at all.

01:12:29.660 I will have to try first.

01:12:30.700 And then see how I.

01:12:31.500 How I feel about it.

01:12:32.540 Because.

01:12:32.840 What if there's like.

01:12:33.680 The point of no return.

01:12:35.440 Once you do it.

01:12:36.240 It just totally changes.

01:12:38.520 The relationship.

01:12:39.560 As.

01:12:39.580 Oh.

01:12:39.820 Like overall.

01:12:40.580 Like isn't there a situation.

01:12:42.540 That you can see your partner in.

01:12:44.420 That would be like.

01:12:45.340 There's no going back from this.

01:12:46.940 Like it just.

01:12:47.560 Totally changes how you.

01:12:49.340 View them.

01:12:50.360 Like they do something.

01:12:52.680 I.

01:12:53.300 We.

01:12:54.000 We.

01:12:54.920 Like they cry during Titanic.

01:12:56.980 I don't know.

01:12:57.820 No.

01:12:58.340 I mean.

01:12:58.780 I've seen my husband crying.

01:13:00.440 During Titanic.

01:13:01.280 No.

01:13:01.700 Not during Titanic.

01:13:02.680 But.

01:13:02.960 During.

01:13:03.140 On other occasions.

01:13:04.340 And I.

01:13:04.600 During Brokeback Mountain.

01:13:05.060 If anything.

01:13:05.540 That just.

01:13:06.040 You know.

01:13:06.580 What if you start crying during Brokeback Mountain?

01:13:09.120 That would be strange.

01:13:09.720 He's like.

01:13:09.920 I wish I could live like this.

01:13:12.720 Okay.

01:13:13.060 What.

01:13:13.460 Tay.

01:13:13.760 It's a no for me.

01:13:14.460 No thank you.

01:13:14.640 No for you.

01:13:15.360 Okay.

01:13:16.720 I missed the part about the whole.

01:13:18.780 You guys were having back and forth about leadership.

01:13:20.740 Oh yeah.

01:13:21.100 Yes.

01:13:21.300 I think that's where we.

01:13:23.260 Holy shit.

01:13:24.260 Oh my god.

01:13:24.920 It's pay over.

01:13:25.960 Holy shit.

01:13:26.400 He is raiding us.

01:13:27.620 Nick.

01:13:27.960 We got to pull up this guy's Instagram.

01:13:29.900 Ladies.

01:13:31.300 This guy's a legend.

01:13:33.080 He's single.

01:13:34.340 We're.

01:13:35.260 You.

01:13:35.620 We got some single girls here.

01:13:36.800 We're going to try to.

01:13:38.520 Get this guy.

01:13:39.960 What's his name?

01:13:40.880 Instagram.

01:13:42.100 Payo.

01:13:42.580 What's your Instagram?

01:13:44.100 Just Google it.

01:13:45.180 Payo.

01:13:45.560 Wow.

01:13:45.880 I think.

01:13:46.560 On Instagram.

01:13:47.420 Yo.

01:13:47.580 Payo.

01:13:47.840 Thank you so much for the raid man.

01:13:49.460 Really appreciate it dude.

01:13:50.340 Let me give you a little shout out here on Twitch.

01:13:53.100 Speaking of which guys.

01:13:55.940 Payo.

01:13:56.460 I actually was watching a stream earlier today.

01:13:58.340 The dude.

01:13:59.120 He was in a.

01:13:59.800 He was in a.

01:14:00.620 Was a G.

01:14:02.040 G.D.K.P.

01:14:02.620 He's doing Nax.

01:14:03.880 Right.

01:14:04.500 And he missed out on the Hunger and Cold.

01:14:06.280 Like you know.

01:14:07.000 The best offhand sword from Naxxramas.

01:14:09.820 Naxx 40.

01:14:11.180 World of Warcraft classic.

01:14:12.460 But like.

01:14:13.140 I'm just curious.

01:14:13.820 Like would you guys like go all in.

01:14:15.560 On either Gressel.

01:14:17.120 Or the Hunger and Cold.

01:14:18.900 From KT.

01:14:19.860 Kel'Thuzad.

01:14:20.880 Like it's a G.D.

01:14:21.760 G.D.K.

01:14:23.660 Like do you go all in.

01:14:24.600 Like all your gold.

01:14:25.480 Like gold cap.

01:14:27.120 What the hell are you talking about?

01:14:28.980 Like do you go all in.

01:14:30.100 On like Gressel.

01:14:31.340 I don't even know what these words are you're saying.

01:14:33.980 Yeah bro.

01:14:34.620 That just sounds like gibberish.

01:14:36.040 I'm sorry.

01:14:36.060 Here.

01:14:36.280 Let me give.

01:14:36.760 Let me give a bit more context.

01:14:38.580 You're.

01:14:38.840 You're a human.

01:14:39.840 Male human.

01:14:41.420 Rogue.

01:14:42.200 Okay.

01:14:43.040 Do you go all in on Gressel.

01:14:45.400 What is Gressel?

01:14:46.480 You don't know.

01:14:46.900 How do you guys not know what.

01:14:47.980 Hold on.

01:14:48.440 Or like.

01:14:49.740 Does anybody know what you should know?

01:14:51.380 Let me do a little shout out.

01:14:52.440 For the little money.

01:14:53.060 Bro you're really like.

01:14:53.860 Dude.

01:14:54.060 You're saying that so casually like.

01:14:56.120 Shout out Paya.

01:14:57.840 Thank you man.

01:14:58.500 Appreciate it Paya.

01:15:01.100 Frederique.

01:15:01.680 Yes.

01:15:02.040 Frederique.

01:15:02.540 Okay guys.

01:15:03.500 Would you date.

01:15:04.760 Scroll down Nick.

01:15:05.380 Frederique here.

01:15:06.940 Scroll down.

01:15:07.780 Scroll down Nick.

01:15:09.560 Where's his keyboard one though.

01:15:11.080 I'm going to find his keyboard.

01:15:12.220 His little keyboard video.

01:15:14.080 Could you put us on the other side small Nick.

01:15:15.840 That's so cute.

01:15:17.540 Scroll down.

01:15:18.540 Scroll down.

01:15:19.300 Keep scrolling.

01:15:20.260 His name's.

01:15:20.720 His name's Frederique.

01:15:22.180 Great guy.

01:15:23.600 He's.

01:15:23.940 He's a fucking legend.

01:15:25.280 World of Warcraft player.

01:15:26.760 He's.

01:15:27.200 He primarily plays rogue.

01:15:28.480 But also his hunter's pretty good right.

01:15:31.440 By the way.

01:15:32.060 If you're new.

01:15:32.500 If you're coming over from Paya.

01:15:33.940 We're on Twitch.

01:15:35.160 Drop us a fall on the prime sub.

01:15:36.480 There he is.

01:15:36.920 Pull up the sword one.

01:15:37.760 He's got fucking Thunderfury.

01:15:39.000 Look at this fucking Giga Chad.

01:15:40.720 Put us on the other side.

01:15:43.280 Other.

01:15:43.900 Yeah.

01:15:45.460 Thunderfury.

01:15:45.920 Blessed blade of the.

01:15:47.100 Fuck.

01:15:47.360 What is it?

01:15:48.760 Windseeker.

01:15:49.220 Fuck.

01:15:49.480 I'm sorry.

01:15:49.820 I haven't played classic in a minute.

01:15:52.500 Do you.

01:15:54.040 So.

01:15:54.580 Okay.

01:15:54.720 You've seen his photos.

01:15:55.660 He's obviously a very handsome guy.

01:15:57.420 He's got like.

01:15:58.720 He parses really good.

01:16:00.760 Like Warcraft logs and shit.

01:16:02.220 Like he's a legendary parser.

01:16:03.840 Would you guys date him?

01:16:05.000 Yes or no.

01:16:05.500 Starting with you.

01:16:08.740 I can't really go off of pictures.

01:16:11.180 That's not something I do.

01:16:13.060 But.

01:16:14.500 Like I don't know anything about this guy.

01:16:16.180 I don't know.

01:16:17.600 Just.

01:16:17.880 Can we get.

01:16:18.240 Let's get.

01:16:18.980 Payo.

01:16:19.520 I would say no.

01:16:19.820 Wait.

01:16:20.000 Payo.

01:16:20.240 Can we get this guy.

01:16:21.000 Can we call.

01:16:21.820 Payo.

01:16:22.040 Are you still watching?

01:16:23.260 Let's get him to do a call in right now.

01:16:26.040 Payo.

01:16:26.440 Can you join our discord.

01:16:28.020 Discord.gg slash whatever.

01:16:30.100 And we'll.

01:16:30.720 We're going to have you do a call in right now dude.

01:16:33.660 We're going to have Payo call in.

01:16:34.960 And he's going to speed date you guys.

01:16:36.720 Right now.

01:16:37.880 But going around the table.

01:16:39.000 Would you date him?

01:16:40.240 No thank you.

01:16:41.080 What the.

01:16:41.840 Bro.

01:16:42.820 Okay.

01:16:43.200 What about you?

01:16:43.680 He's not giving like much energy.

01:16:45.140 He doesn't give much energy.

01:16:46.840 Because it.

01:16:47.600 Right.

01:16:47.960 Because that's a deal breaker.

01:16:49.440 Okay.

01:16:49.900 Yeah.

01:16:50.140 Give him a shot.

01:16:51.000 What if he's a munch though?

01:16:52.520 If he's a munch.

01:16:53.240 Do you.

01:16:53.520 Can reconsider?

01:16:54.740 He's a gamer.

01:16:55.980 Can you stay at home?

01:16:56.780 Ooh.

01:16:57.260 I know.

01:16:57.620 He's got those gamer hands right?

01:16:58.900 Oh I didn't say all that.

01:16:59.500 He's got gamer hands.

01:17:00.280 I was just saying the game girl.

01:17:02.000 Would you.

01:17:02.420 Would you date.

01:17:03.000 Payo?

01:17:03.740 Probably not.

01:17:05.040 No.

01:17:05.320 I'm not into gaming so I feel like I just.

01:17:07.680 We're very different.

01:17:08.520 He also skateboards.

01:17:10.040 He's a skateboarder and he.

01:17:12.900 What are his interests?

01:17:13.940 Hobbies?

01:17:14.740 I think he just mostly plays world.

01:17:16.220 Do you know if he's Hispanic?

01:17:17.480 Is he Hispanic?

01:17:18.280 He looks Hispanic.

01:17:18.960 He looks Hispanic.

01:17:19.540 Yeah.

01:17:19.620 I think he's black Irish.

01:17:21.040 Si hablo espanol I'll say yes.

01:17:22.460 He's a gamer.

01:17:23.140 I think he's black Irish.

01:17:24.320 Wow.

01:17:24.480 That's cool mix.

01:17:24.880 What about you?

01:17:25.500 I'd go no.

01:17:26.240 I feel like our interests are different and I think there could be a bit of an age gap

01:17:30.640 too.

01:17:31.360 Is there an age gap?

01:17:32.140 Payo.

01:17:32.500 How old are you?

01:17:33.660 Wait.

01:17:35.200 I'm reading the Twitch chat right now.

01:17:37.240 How old is Payo guys?

01:17:39.020 He's 38.

01:17:39.900 45.

01:17:40.940 38.

01:17:41.780 No.

01:17:42.340 Come on.

01:17:42.640 He's not that old.

01:17:43.520 39.

01:17:44.720 45.

01:17:45.360 He lives in Quebec.

01:17:46.520 He looks like 20.

01:17:47.360 64.

01:17:48.120 Come on guys.

01:17:48.980 38.

01:17:49.960 How old is he?

01:17:51.240 How old is Payo?

01:17:52.080 He looks out of his 20s.

01:17:53.380 He always says 38.

01:17:55.260 I don't.

01:17:55.580 I think.

01:17:55.980 I think he's like.

01:17:56.980 I think he says that as a joke.

01:17:58.700 I think he's like late 20s.

01:18:01.240 That's what he looks like.

01:18:02.360 I think he's late 20s.

01:18:03.680 Probably goofy.

01:18:04.140 What's his actual age?

01:18:05.440 Stop.

01:18:05.900 You guys are trolling us.

01:18:07.840 Third girl in the corner.

01:18:09.000 39 in April.

01:18:10.200 I don't know.

01:18:12.440 But.

01:18:14.020 Would you.

01:18:14.640 Well you're married.

01:18:15.280 If you weren't married.

01:18:16.260 If I was single.

01:18:16.780 If you were single.

01:18:17.540 I won't.

01:18:18.240 I wouldn't date him.

01:18:19.160 Okay.

01:18:19.640 Sorry.

01:18:20.400 What about you?

01:18:21.000 Yeah I just have to know if he's Hispanic or not.

01:18:22.700 I just want to know that.

01:18:23.900 You said Irish and Blackboard.

01:18:24.820 They were joking.

01:18:25.820 He's a gamer though.

01:18:26.460 Maybe I'd give it a shot.

01:18:27.360 As long as he's loyal.

01:18:28.820 That's my big thing.

01:18:29.220 Okay.

01:18:30.260 Okay.

01:18:30.920 All right.

01:18:31.280 Was there something else we were pulling up Nick?

01:18:34.820 We're in the middle of dating apps.

01:18:36.600 We're doing the date.

01:18:37.340 I know we're doing.

01:18:37.940 While we were talking about the dating apps thing.

01:18:39.440 I'm trying to find Peo's keyboard thing.

01:18:44.260 He has a keyboard clip that I have somewhere.

01:18:46.960 I'm going to check.

01:18:48.500 Let me check the Dropbox file.

01:18:50.500 While we were talking.

01:18:51.480 Thank you again Peo for the raid.

01:18:54.380 We were talking about leadership somehow because she only will date a guy who's a munch.

01:19:04.240 Which means only gives oral carnal knowledge.

01:19:08.860 Yeah we were talking about if.

01:19:10.980 I can't find it.

01:19:11.720 It's okay.

01:19:12.240 If a man says like I'm not going to do that.

01:19:16.120 Is that like a quality of a leader?

01:19:18.940 And a lot of people were disagreeing with me that that would not be a leadership quality.

01:19:24.140 Him just having that last word saying no that's not something we're going to do.

01:19:28.020 I think a leadership is a person who is mindful and then has a reason behind the decision they're making.

01:19:35.720 But also when you're in a marriage and you love your significant other you also are make.

01:19:39.980 You want that person to feel love, care for, especially when you're in privacy, in intimacy.

01:19:45.560 So as a leader it's your duty towards your partner, wife, husband, whatever it is.

01:19:52.080 To make them feel love and sexually or in any way.

01:19:59.840 Even if that means to not to do something that you wouldn't enjoy that much.

01:20:05.480 But the fact that the other person is enjoying, that's very fulfilling for yourself.

01:20:10.540 That's how I see it and that's my experience in my marriage.

01:20:13.620 Every marriage is different and I think also that there are certain things when you're having sex with someone.

01:20:19.640 For me that's very sacred.

01:20:20.680 And I think you should just have sex with a person that you want to spend the rest of your life.

01:20:24.740 Yeah, so I don't disagree that like I should be listening to my spouse, my significant other, what they want.

01:20:32.500 And when they express those things, as a dutiful husband you should listen to that, think about it.

01:20:39.520 But if the leader, if your husband comes back and says no it's not something that's going to happen.

01:20:45.760 Are you going to submit to his leadership as a follower or are you still going to combat him and say no I really want this.

01:20:56.280 Because if that's the case, if you still say no I don't care, I still want to do this, you have to submit to my will.

01:21:03.720 Well, then you guys, he's not the leader.

01:21:06.900 You guys are just co-partners.

01:21:09.180 So when you're saying I don't care, I guess when he asked me if I would push it, what I meant with pushing, I will say why we don't give it a try.

01:21:18.960 And then we can make a decision.

01:21:23.220 I guess I'm talking about it in extremely general terms.

01:21:26.800 I wasn't saying I'm going to push it.

01:21:27.620 Well, no, no, no.

01:21:28.280 That's not what I was saying.

01:21:29.400 Well, so say you come to him and say, hey, I want to do this.

01:21:34.200 And he thinks about it.

01:21:37.260 He listens to what you have to say, the reasons.

01:21:40.060 And then he comes back and says, I'm sorry, I've thought about this.

01:21:45.920 But it's not something that's going to happen.

01:21:48.680 It has happened in many other situations through our marriage.

01:21:53.040 But my husband always has been very mindful when it's about our intimacy.

01:21:57.980 So we do have had those situations before, not sex-related, but with other stuff.

01:22:02.440 And he has said, I'm sorry, but we are not doing that.

01:22:05.920 And I completely agree with it.

01:22:07.760 Okay.

01:22:08.160 So in that case, that is leadership.

01:22:11.700 And I think it's extremely important.

01:22:13.060 But you have to understand there is a difference between the leadership overall in a marriage and a relationship with your partner and the leadership on that.

01:22:22.380 It's different.

01:22:23.500 Well, so it's dependent upon the man.

01:22:26.460 So for your husband, he's willing to do whatever you want in your marriage.

01:22:35.680 And that's great.

01:22:37.140 That's awesome that you have that.

01:22:39.240 But for some men, it's just not something that they're going to do.

01:22:43.680 So as a woman, if you're in that relationship, if you're married to that man and he says, I'm sorry, it's not going to happen, are you going to be willing to say, I submit to your leadership?

01:22:58.540 It might be hard, it might be like, I really want this, but are you going to submit to that leadership?

01:23:05.560 And that's what leadership is.

01:23:07.620 Like, it is making that final decision, having that last say.

01:23:11.080 And are you going to be a good follower and say, okay, I trust your leadership, I trust you.

01:23:15.260 Right.

01:23:15.420 And then as a leader also as well, you're taking in consideration the people who follow you.

01:23:19.680 Which is important.

01:23:20.560 Right.

01:23:20.840 And then what I'm making this decision, you know, if this decision is good for both us.

01:23:26.660 Because remember, it's a team.

01:23:28.120 When you're in marriage, it's a fully team.

01:23:30.320 And sometimes, you know, sometimes you give a little bit more.

01:23:33.200 Sometimes some days the person gives a little bit more than you.

01:23:36.300 And that's how a marriage, we have bad days.

01:23:38.640 We have good days.

01:23:39.740 We have disagreement.

01:23:40.960 But the important thing about marriage is disagree and be able to move forward.

01:23:45.300 But this all stemmed from, just to recap for anybody who's just joining us.

01:23:48.940 Because you said that you would push when it came to oral.

01:23:55.900 What I meant with push is, let's give it a try.

01:23:59.460 And if you don't feel comfortable for it.

01:24:02.060 Let's role play it.

01:24:03.340 Go ahead.

01:24:05.020 Pretend I'm the dude.

01:24:06.740 And you want oral.

01:24:08.640 Let's role play it.

01:24:09.740 Let's see how this conversation will go.

01:24:11.700 Would you like to try oral sex tonight?

01:24:14.760 Oh, I thought.

01:24:16.160 I'm not really into that.

01:24:17.400 Sorry, babe.

01:24:17.900 Well, that's not a husband answer.

01:24:21.300 Sorry, I'm not into that.

01:24:22.280 That sounds like you're dating a stranger.

01:24:23.920 But you, hold on.

01:24:24.780 Okay.

01:24:25.080 Okay.

01:24:25.300 Let's break the.

01:24:26.680 Break the ISC.

01:24:27.920 The context here is like.

01:24:30.040 No, it's not.

01:24:30.600 It's never been done before.

01:24:31.780 You don't talk like that to your partner.

01:24:33.020 You say, hey, honey.

01:24:34.160 Let's sit down and have a.

01:24:35.360 They have a.

01:24:36.020 Yeah.

01:24:36.320 You just sit down and have an adult conversation with your partner.

01:24:38.780 That wasn't an adult conversation.

01:24:40.020 No, it's not.

01:24:40.860 Sorry, honey.

01:24:41.460 I'm not into this.

01:24:42.240 This is just very.

01:24:43.420 How's that?

01:24:44.140 Strange and short.

01:24:45.300 What do you mean?

01:24:46.100 Hold on.

01:24:46.760 Wait, wait, hold on.

01:24:48.020 Before you do that.

01:24:48.860 Let's continue the role play here.

01:24:49.960 Okay.

01:24:49.980 I'm basing this on how my marriage is with my husband.

01:24:53.080 So every time we're going to make a decision, which is done, we talk about it.

01:24:55.560 You said that for.

01:24:57.760 We haven't had any oral sex in our eight year marriage.

01:25:01.240 You said we've been married for eight years.

01:25:03.580 No, I never said we have never had oral sex.

01:25:06.160 When did I say that?

01:25:07.560 That's the whole conversation we're having here.

01:25:09.460 No, no, no.

01:25:09.980 The guy never wanted oral sex.

01:25:11.620 That's what you're talking about.

01:25:12.640 That's what we're talking about.

01:25:13.580 A supposition that that never happened on my marriage.

01:25:16.360 Not your literal current marriage.

01:25:18.880 Yeah.

01:25:19.120 I'm talking in this hypothetical.

01:25:21.720 Hypothetical.

01:25:22.160 Okay.

01:25:22.780 Yeah, yeah.

01:25:23.260 Okay.

01:25:23.580 So the context of this conversation was, is it a deal breaker if the guy's not willing

01:25:29.300 to go down?

01:25:31.560 In a hypothetical marriage that is not mine?

01:25:33.860 So let's.

01:25:34.700 Right.

01:25:34.940 But you're.

01:25:36.340 I think just for yours.

01:25:38.120 Like, you know, like, is that a deal breaker?

01:25:40.040 No, but you said that, okay, well, okay, maybe at the beginning, but if you're together for

01:25:47.040 long enough and if you're, you really want that, then you're going to ask.

01:25:50.800 Right.

01:25:51.120 But the context here is the guy never did it in the relationship ever.

01:25:55.200 There's been no prior oral sex.

01:25:59.160 So this would be the first time.

01:26:00.760 So you knew of this already.

01:26:02.120 Yeah.

01:26:02.160 Oh, so like me knowing that he wasn't comfortable with it and then many years after.

01:26:06.520 Because you said, well, eight years into a marriage, things change.

01:26:09.800 Right, right, but I'm guessing that, and I apologize, English is not my first language.

01:26:14.080 So I'm guessing that you, after many years being with someone and the person came out

01:26:18.780 and say, hey, I don't really want to do this.

01:26:20.320 And you already knew that I don't feel comfortable doing this since the beginning.

01:26:24.040 That's what you're telling me right now.

01:26:25.380 Well, that, yeah, that's been the.

01:26:26.540 Yeah.

01:26:28.520 I don't know.

01:26:29.100 I will have to be in that situation.

01:26:30.980 I will have to.

01:26:31.740 Yeah.

01:26:32.240 Well, no, I cannot tell you.

01:26:34.240 Oh, my God.

01:26:34.460 No, I'm not going to tell you something that I haven't lived through it.

01:26:37.140 But I don't have that type of relationship.

01:26:39.860 Yeah, but that's the purpose of a hypothetical.

01:26:42.480 How would I react in a hypothetical?

01:26:44.380 I would probably say, let's give it a try.

01:26:46.260 If you don't feel comfortable, then I will respect that, and we won't talk about it anymore,

01:26:49.900 and we wouldn't try it anymore.

01:26:51.200 That's what I will do.

01:26:52.760 That totally contradicts your position earlier, which was, like, you seem to really give pushback

01:27:00.140 because I think our position was, if we said, hey, we're not interested in doing that,

01:27:05.800 you'd be like, no, no, no, that's not the end of the conversation.

01:27:09.400 Well, because when you have a partner, you talk to, when it's this type of thought,

01:27:14.540 it's not the same making a decision of, like, we're going to get a new car or we're going

01:27:17.360 to get a new house.

01:27:18.080 It's not the same.

01:27:18.760 That seems like a bigger decision.

01:27:20.480 Right, right.

01:27:22.120 So that's why you sit down and say, yeah, but that's when it comes, what I was just saying

01:27:26.360 to him.

01:27:26.940 You talk to your partner, and you say, well, I really would like to do this.

01:27:30.060 Can we give it a try?

01:27:31.220 And the person will, because you mind, you're mindful, and you're the leader, you're the

01:27:35.520 husband, and you really want to please your wife because you loved it, you will say, I'm

01:27:39.340 going to give it a try even if I'm not comfortable, but if I don't like it, I want you to understand

01:27:44.120 that I don't want to do it anymore.

01:27:45.580 Right, but here's my position.

01:27:48.220 There is no, I'm going to try it just once.

01:27:51.360 It's, I'm not trying this at all.

01:27:54.720 And is your position, I'm going to continue pushing from there?

01:27:59.060 No, you didn't want it to try, to try to please your wife.

01:28:01.560 You don't even, you don't even need to know why.

01:28:05.180 But you tell me, why not?

01:28:06.560 You don't need to know why.

01:28:08.420 I think, I think no is sufficient.

01:28:12.840 It's just respecting somebody's boundaries, that's where he's trying to get at, and if

01:28:15.760 you can respect somebody's boundaries.

01:28:16.520 I agree, I agree with boundaries, but when you.

01:28:18.260 Like, no is a total, oh my God, sorry, I just butchered it, butchered it.

01:28:24.940 No is a sentence.

01:28:26.940 I totally butchered that.

01:28:28.000 Holy fuck, I'm sorry, man.

01:28:29.460 I understand that, but you know, when you're being with someone for so long, the relationship

01:28:35.720 just evolved to something else, and you feel comfortable enough to say, hey, I don't want

01:28:40.200 to do this, but I love you very much, and we've been together for a really, really long

01:28:43.600 time, and I, I, I'm mindful of what you want and your desires, so I'm going to give

01:28:49.660 it a try, because that's a, that's a marriage.

01:28:51.960 You, you, you give up some things for your partner, and your partner give up some things

01:28:56.220 for you.

01:28:56.320 Well, okay, so what about, let's, let's move it a step forward.

01:29:00.120 What about anal sex?

01:29:01.760 Have you had that with your husband?

01:29:03.280 Yes.

01:29:03.860 Okay, I can't really, can't use that as an argument.

01:29:06.880 Can I just add something?

01:29:07.500 There's some women that are not inclined ever to even try it once, and I think it would

01:29:13.660 not be, like.

01:29:15.040 It's rude to push that.

01:29:15.820 I think it would be rude to, like, push it.

01:29:18.400 You could, like, revisit it down the road, but if she still says no, or even maybe the

01:29:26.080 guy doesn't, the girl wants it, but the guy doesn't want it.

01:29:28.700 And all that is fine.

01:29:29.220 If the guy doesn't want to do it, and the girl doesn't want to do it, in my case, that's

01:29:32.600 But you're saying you have to try it once, and that's, I don't think so.

01:29:36.520 Because that's how my marriage works.

01:29:38.040 We give it a try things that maybe the other person doesn't like, or maybe I'm not 100%.

01:29:41.600 What about, like, cooking methamphetamine?

01:29:43.600 Well, I guess we have to try it one time.

01:29:46.480 Talking about someone, no, because none of us is a drug addict.

01:29:50.980 Methamphetamine is a logical thought.

01:29:52.280 I think you're trying to, you're trying to.

01:29:54.320 That's not a good comparison.

01:29:55.640 Curtis underscore Leon underscore donated $100.

01:29:58.880 Hi, Brian.

01:30:00.780 It's Curtis underscore Leon underscore.

01:30:03.320 What's up with all the sex questions?

01:30:04.240 Question for the panel.

01:30:05.240 How many people in the world do you think are having sex right this second?

01:30:09.700 It's got to be tons.

01:30:11.300 I know.

01:30:11.720 How many sandwiches are being made afterwards?

01:30:14.300 That's a great question.

01:30:15.800 Well, I know right now that Payo, who we're actually about to pull up one other clip from

01:30:20.380 him, that dude, he's got, like, actually, wait, I don't want to ruin his chances with

01:30:26.640 any of the girls here.

01:30:27.240 I just know that he's having lots of sexual intercourse.

01:30:35.560 Wow, that came out really weird.

01:30:37.680 What is his name?

01:30:38.780 Payo?

01:30:39.260 I'm just ending the show right there.

01:30:40.620 Okay.

01:30:41.020 Payo.

01:30:41.540 His name's Payo.

01:30:42.880 His real name's Frederic Bartholomew.

01:30:45.320 Frederic Bartholomew.

01:30:47.520 Estanza III.

01:30:49.200 Nick, can you pull up the clip?

01:30:50.360 This one, ladies.

01:30:51.460 Okay, this is a clip.

01:30:52.360 This is his keyboard.

01:30:53.380 This is how dedicated he is.

01:30:54.920 Wow.

01:30:55.120 Play it, Nick.

01:30:56.280 What is that?

01:30:56.920 This is how dedicated.

01:30:59.280 Lovely.

01:31:00.000 This is how dedicated he is to his gaming.

01:31:04.780 He doesn't even get up.

01:31:06.720 Look at that.

01:31:07.600 Oh, my.

01:31:08.020 That's kind of gross.

01:31:09.320 It's a rice.

01:31:10.340 Is that toenails?

01:31:11.420 It looks like a piece of rice.

01:31:12.680 Bro, Payo, you got to get.

01:31:14.100 Can I ship you?

01:31:15.280 I'll buy you one.

01:31:15.920 I'll buy you a new key.

01:31:16.880 You got a new key.

01:31:17.420 Okay.

01:31:17.860 My God, bro.

01:31:20.940 That's the dedication.

01:31:22.740 I think it's the rice.

01:31:23.940 I'm not sure, man.

01:31:24.820 I don't want to touch it.

01:31:26.980 Look, he's got a great laugh.

01:31:28.680 Great laugh.

01:31:29.420 My hygiene's a deal.

01:31:30.040 He's got a French-Canadian accent.

01:31:33.980 Ladies.

01:31:34.340 He doesn't even want to touch his own keyboard that he uses the game.

01:31:36.380 No, he touches it.

01:31:37.200 He touches it.

01:31:38.580 Payo, please let me send you a keyboard, bro.

01:31:40.380 I'll get whatever you want.

01:31:41.320 No, thank you.

01:31:42.500 Are you...

01:31:43.760 That was definitely a deal.

01:31:45.180 Does the keyboard change anything?

01:31:48.440 Yes.

01:31:48.820 No, thank you.

01:31:49.620 That keyboard looks like it's indicative of a larger issue.

01:31:52.580 What is going on in the rest of the apartment?

01:31:55.760 I don't know.

01:31:57.040 Yeah.

01:31:57.260 It's true.

01:31:58.340 I will say that he's doing great on Season of Discovery.

01:32:02.620 He's still raiding Classic Era, okay?

01:32:05.680 He just raided Naxxramas, okay?

01:32:08.460 You know, Cataclysm's coming out.

01:32:10.060 Who knows what this guy's going to be doing?

01:32:11.640 He's very focused on his gaming.

01:32:13.000 Change anything for anybody?

01:32:15.320 Truth Bomb donated $100.

01:32:17.880 All right.

01:32:18.300 So with this logic, let's say your husband says he wants to have a threesome.

01:32:23.340 I mean, you have to try it once at least to make your partner happy.

01:32:27.520 I will try.

01:32:27.960 Some things can always just be no.

01:32:29.920 If he wants to try, I will try.

01:32:31.840 That's why she's a liar.

01:32:32.800 You'll try?

01:32:33.700 Yes.

01:32:34.960 All right.

01:32:36.000 I mean, she's consistent.

01:32:37.480 If my husband wants to try something like that, I will try it.

01:32:40.500 I need to read two chats here.

01:32:41.740 We have not a muncher donated $50.

01:32:44.960 Thank you, man.

01:32:45.560 Michael Douglas got mouth slash throat cancer from munching on his woman.

01:32:50.380 Unselfish served him well.

01:32:52.160 Scientists still don't know what's okay.

01:32:54.880 That's true, though.

01:32:56.260 I've read that somewhere.

01:32:57.740 It is.

01:32:58.440 Yeah.

01:32:59.120 A guy lost his tongue because of that.

01:33:00.760 I've just seen it.

01:33:01.480 That's why guys don't like doing that anymore.

01:33:03.040 Yeah.

01:33:03.160 There's so many STDs going around.

01:33:04.440 There's STDs.

01:33:05.060 Oh, it never.

01:33:06.240 That's disgusting.

01:33:08.080 Thank you, man.

01:33:08.720 Appreciate it.

01:33:09.220 Yeah, Michael Douglas, he got throat cancer.

01:33:11.800 I'm not trying to get that.

01:33:12.960 So I still kind of worry of like the three times I did it a long time ago.

01:33:17.320 Like, what if who knows what the future has in store?

01:33:20.180 I'm scared.

01:33:20.980 No, it'll fall off.

01:33:22.420 Fuck.

01:33:23.780 There you go.

01:33:24.520 All right.

01:33:25.440 Super gym photography.

01:33:26.700 Big shout out to all the kitties across the earth.

01:33:28.920 Okay.

01:33:29.240 How cute.

01:33:31.620 Shout out to all the kitties.

01:33:33.840 I think I know what he's talking about.

01:33:35.260 Okay.

01:33:35.680 Appreciate it, man.

01:33:36.800 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

01:33:38.700 Pull that up really quick, Nick.

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01:34:18.060 Okay, where were we?

01:34:20.060 Like the video.

01:34:21.080 What's that?

01:34:21.660 Like the video.

01:34:22.880 Oh, like the video, guys.

01:34:23.980 Also, like the video on YouTube.

01:34:25.820 Okay, so – wow, we talked about a lot of stuff there.

01:34:30.740 Let's go back to your dating app profile.

01:34:32.760 That's where we left off.

01:34:34.000 Guys, we're reviewing two of the girls' dating app profiles.

01:34:38.040 So, Nick, if you can pull that back up.

01:34:41.580 I'll fall for you if you can make me ugly laugh.

01:34:44.520 Okay, not as – wait, Nick, just go back to the –

01:34:47.060 Last one, just so we can see where this all stemmed from.

01:34:50.640 This is where this – stemmed from.

01:34:53.380 You're not a munch.

01:34:54.040 That's where it came from.

01:34:55.520 Okay, you should not go out with her if you're not a munch.

01:34:57.960 Okay.

01:34:58.980 Next.

01:34:59.660 Yeah, you can make me ugly laugh.

01:35:01.780 Okay, next.

01:35:02.740 Rolling up a fatty after cleaning my room.

01:35:07.780 I think you would like Peo, to be honest.

01:35:09.920 He partakes in –

01:35:12.000 That's not like the only thing that I would just say.

01:35:13.660 Oh, okay.

01:35:14.120 That's – okay.

01:35:15.060 Is there another one?

01:35:16.120 Like a clean keyboard.

01:35:17.840 Also, you need to pull up hers.

01:35:20.380 I don't know how I feel about that.

01:35:21.660 Yeah.

01:35:22.620 The funny one, that's an interesting one.

01:35:24.840 So, if – is it a deal breaker if the guy's not funny?

01:35:27.820 No, I've dated –

01:35:29.120 Oh, sorry, sorry.

01:35:30.300 I've dated, like, you know, some unfunny people.

01:35:32.000 I feel like usually, you know, like, obviously, I don't think you guys are, like, seeing this

01:35:35.960 now, like, on the stream, but, like, I'm typically, like, the funnier one, which –

01:35:40.000 You're –

01:35:40.260 That's fine, but –

01:35:41.040 In a relationship?

01:35:42.260 You're –

01:35:42.580 Just, like, even when talking to people in general.

01:35:44.360 You're the funny one?

01:35:46.680 Yeah.

01:35:46.940 No, I'm just – I'm asking.

01:35:48.060 And that's really how bad it is.

01:35:49.240 Like, I don't know.

01:35:50.240 I just –

01:35:50.780 Can you – do you want to tell us a joke?

01:35:53.800 I don't think that's how being funny works.

01:35:55.100 Yeah, I'm, like, funny in context, you know what I mean?

01:35:57.840 Like, you have to, like, drive with me in a car, and, like, we'll be chopping it up,

01:36:01.480 and then, like, I'll make you laugh for real.

01:36:05.260 I think we'll pass on your joke, but –

01:36:08.500 It's not – it's very – it's very simple.

01:36:10.920 You got to speak into the mic if you're going to –

01:36:12.900 What do you call a dog that is a magician?

01:36:16.860 A labracadabra door.

01:36:18.860 Oh.

01:36:19.120 That's good.

01:36:22.840 That's good.

01:36:23.600 Okay.

01:36:25.560 Cool, I guess.

01:36:26.760 Actually, really quick, just on the funny thing.

01:36:28.540 Going around the table, is it a high priority for you that the guy you're dating is funny,

01:36:34.000 can make you laugh?

01:36:36.240 Yeah.

01:36:36.400 Or do you not care?

01:36:37.420 Maybe you don't care.

01:36:38.800 There's different ways of being funny, so, yeah.

01:36:41.740 Okay.

01:36:42.460 Having the same sense of humor.

01:36:43.920 I think it depends, because when someone's funny, like, the same kind of sense of humor

01:36:52.520 that you have, it normally goes in deeper, where they're, like, they actually have a personality,

01:36:57.760 and they know how to make jokes of certain things, so I feel like –

01:37:01.220 To make themselves.

01:37:01.920 Yeah, exactly.

01:37:02.560 Sure.

01:37:03.020 What about you?

01:37:04.420 Yeah, same sense of humor.

01:37:07.780 Same sense of humor.

01:37:09.260 Same sense of humor, yes.

01:37:10.420 Yeah, same sense of humor.

01:37:11.740 Okay.

01:37:12.860 All right.

01:37:13.920 So, guys, dating app review, do you – if you're able to pull up the chat, Nick – do

01:37:20.260 you swipe yes on her or no?

01:37:23.180 I guess on Hinge, it's a like.

01:37:25.260 Do you send her a like or is it a pass?

01:37:27.880 Like or pass?

01:37:30.000 Like or pass?

01:37:35.240 Okay.

01:37:36.760 Sorry, guys.

01:37:37.500 We're in a slight delay here.

01:37:39.900 No, no, no.

01:37:41.100 Pass.

01:37:41.380 Ooh, okay.

01:37:42.140 Rip.

01:37:42.340 I can't see that far even.

01:37:44.700 Oh, yeah.

01:37:46.000 I can barely wait to –

01:37:47.500 There it is.

01:37:48.360 Lots of – I see a lot of passes.

01:37:50.840 Pass.

01:37:51.420 Is there anybody – somebody – what?

01:37:53.000 Maximus likes you.

01:37:54.460 The loner coder likes you.

01:37:58.000 Topher likes you.

01:37:58.980 Okay, you're getting some likes.

01:38:00.240 There you go.

01:38:01.120 It only takes one.

01:38:03.020 Okay.

01:38:03.680 Where?

01:38:03.860 Nick, the other one?

01:38:05.920 Yeah.

01:38:06.940 You've been working on it, right?

01:38:08.260 Yeah.

01:38:08.660 Okay.

01:38:09.640 All right.

01:38:10.120 We have Sophia here.

01:38:11.960 I'm convinced that Sophia with an F is greater than Sophia with a PH.

01:38:18.800 What – why is that?

01:38:20.640 Because that's my name.

01:38:22.200 With an F?

01:38:23.300 You're convinced of it.

01:38:24.920 I'm convinced, yeah.

01:38:26.600 I don't really get it.

01:38:28.880 I just think –

01:38:29.720 I don't get it.

01:38:30.460 I'm sorry.

01:38:31.440 I don't know what to tell you.

01:38:32.500 It's just – I think Sophia with an F is better than with a PH.

01:38:35.200 That's it.

01:38:35.720 It's not that deep.

01:38:36.500 Is that actually how your name is?

01:38:40.400 Next.

01:38:41.280 Yeah.

01:38:41.980 My mom is Spanish, so it's like Spanish.

01:38:44.020 Next.

01:38:44.860 Because I'm Spanish, too, so –

01:38:46.180 I like your style, though.

01:38:47.200 A life goal of mine to find how many licks it takes to get to the center of the Tootsie

01:38:52.200 Pop.

01:38:53.020 Yeah, my proms aren't very good.

01:38:54.320 Oh, man.

01:38:54.660 This is rough.

01:38:55.660 Okay, next.

01:38:56.580 Damn.

01:38:57.260 Yeah, seriously.

01:38:58.000 I mean –

01:38:58.400 I mean, I go crazy for a prom.

01:39:00.800 I'm also 20.

01:39:01.660 I made Moscow Mule.

01:39:03.300 That was me before a haircut.

01:39:05.060 Next.

01:39:05.600 Or is that it?

01:39:07.260 There's one more.

01:39:09.220 There should be like two more.

01:39:11.000 There's the last one.

01:39:11.980 The bottom picture.

01:39:14.000 That's a Halloween costume on the bottom.

01:39:17.720 I don't know if you guys know Frog and Toad.

01:39:19.660 Mm-hmm.

01:39:20.600 Yeah.

01:39:21.040 Okay.

01:39:22.680 Well, the proms are leaving a little something to be desired, but it's – from what you previously

01:39:29.120 told us, you pretty much just go on hinge when you're bored with your girlfriends to –

01:39:34.500 Yeah.

01:39:35.500 To what?

01:39:36.660 We just – it's kind of just like – I actually got hinged this year with my roommates, and

01:39:42.220 it just like was never that serious.

01:39:43.920 My proms aren't that good.

01:39:45.020 I don't really like expect anything from it.

01:39:47.260 It was just kind of fun.

01:39:48.760 We just like go on like – I don't know.

01:39:52.300 We also call it like – like we'll be like, oh, do you want to play Hinge or do you want

01:39:57.000 to play Tinder?

01:39:57.620 Like it's like fully – like it's a game.

01:40:00.740 Like –

01:40:01.180 Yeah.

01:40:01.340 So wait, so when you say it's a game, like you'll be – you guys are all – how many

01:40:05.840 people do you live with?

01:40:06.980 There's four of us.

01:40:07.980 And so if all four of you will get together, you'll each go on the apps and like show each

01:40:13.060 other the messages?

01:40:13.820 A lot of times or like airplay it onto our TV.

01:40:17.180 You'll put it – you'll blast it onto the TV.

01:40:20.000 Okay.

01:40:20.280 I don't know if we – have we done that?

01:40:22.420 Now, and so when you guys are doing this, are you guys like picking like who to swipe

01:40:27.680 on?

01:40:28.140 Are you looking at messages, all of the above?

01:40:31.720 Kind of all of the above.

01:40:32.960 It depends.

01:40:33.640 Like we kind of will just like usually just be like on our phones and then just like – like

01:40:38.680 I feel like you just have to see Hinge from a girl's perspective to really understand.

01:40:42.980 But just like some guys have really funny profiles and just like funny weird sometimes.

01:40:48.400 Sorry.

01:40:49.340 Yeah.

01:40:49.500 Can we like do that on the screen here?

01:40:51.820 No.

01:40:52.320 Okay.

01:40:52.700 Well –

01:40:53.220 They have funny profiles.

01:40:54.380 They just have funny profiles and it just – usually it's kind of like weird or they

01:40:57.660 like have like a – like the voice memo or like voice notes or whatever it's called.

01:41:01.540 Okay.

01:41:01.700 That is really funny to play out.

01:41:03.320 So it's just kind of like, oh, look at this.

01:41:05.220 And it's also like – if that sounds really mean, this is – like we don't know these people.

01:41:11.360 I've never seen any of these people in my life.

01:41:13.540 They have no clue we're doing this.

01:41:15.300 Right.

01:41:15.940 And it – like they could be anyone like across the world.

01:41:18.920 And for all we know, they're doing the same thing.

01:41:20.500 Well, you said you've been on – was it four dates off of Hinge?

01:41:23.940 No.

01:41:24.380 It was one off of Hinge and I actually had Tinder before.

01:41:28.080 And that was like freshman year.

01:41:29.840 Those are from Tinder.

01:41:30.680 Okay.

01:41:31.180 So you've only met up with one guy from Hinge.

01:41:33.000 And that was – that was the thrifting one.

01:41:35.160 That was the what one?

01:41:36.040 The thrifting.

01:41:36.820 The thrifting one.

01:41:38.020 Okay.

01:41:38.480 And then – wait.

01:41:39.960 So the guy that you met from Hinge, the one guy, was he part of the group?

01:41:45.580 No.

01:41:46.140 He wasn't part of the group?

01:41:47.000 No.

01:41:47.500 Would you guys take any objections if you knew guys were doing this?

01:41:52.580 Like they were all getting together and like collectively judging or laughing or whatever.

01:41:59.280 Female profiles?

01:42:00.760 Like your profile?

01:42:01.800 No objections whatsoever?

01:42:04.000 I feel like it's just like it's not something I'm like aware of.

01:42:08.000 I don't really care.

01:42:09.900 That's fine.

01:42:10.540 If I'm putting my profile out there for people to see, then yeah, I'm probably going to –

01:42:15.220 people are not going to like it.

01:42:16.460 Like the last picture with my friend of us like in costume, yeah, I'm sure people are like,

01:42:20.480 what is this?

01:42:21.540 Like why are you wearing like frog like, you know, costumes?

01:42:25.520 Yeah.

01:42:25.880 But, you know, it's just like – it just is – I don't really care.

01:42:29.960 I mean it does cross my mind though that there are people on the dating apps who are on there –

01:42:34.720 Seriously?

01:42:35.100 Not for entertainment.

01:42:36.300 Yeah.

01:42:36.440 Who are on there like in good faith.

01:42:37.860 Yeah.

01:42:38.180 Who are actually like using it individualistically, who are looking to date somebody and like if

01:42:46.720 they were there, they might feel like a little – like you're – it's a –

01:42:55.380 Yeah, like are you saying because now that I'm telling people – like there's an audience

01:42:59.220 now that knows that I do that, that people are feeling more scared to put their profiles

01:43:03.060 out there?

01:43:03.300 No, that's not what I'm saying.

01:43:05.200 Just it's a little – I mean they will never know that you guys are doing this privately.

01:43:12.620 You're not like online –

01:43:14.640 I can understand what you're saying that like, for example, if a group of guys were

01:43:19.060 like going on Hinge and looking at girls' bodies and judging them like that, then like

01:43:23.480 I would probably – you know, like maybe I probably would be like, oh, that's mean.

01:43:28.080 Why?

01:43:28.680 Why would that be mean?

01:43:30.360 Because you're judging them off physically.

01:43:32.900 Isn't that what you guys are –

01:43:33.960 No, no, no, no.

01:43:35.200 Well, wait.

01:43:35.980 Hold on.

01:43:36.260 Let me just – hold on here.

01:43:37.540 One sec.

01:43:38.020 One sec.

01:43:38.380 Like, earlier in the conversation, you said that all the guys on Hinge are ugly.

01:43:47.300 No, they are.

01:43:48.340 But what we're laughing at –

01:43:49.580 But you guys don't – so when you guys are doing your like housemate assessment on

01:43:53.820 Hinge, you're not making any comments about their physical appearance at all?

01:43:57.220 But we also never said what we were doing wasn't mean.

01:44:00.280 Like, that's – well, yeah.

01:44:01.520 But no, what I'm saying is like –

01:44:03.660 But she has an objection with men who would be like, oh, look at her.

01:44:07.040 She got small titties.

01:44:07.980 Like, you know.

01:44:08.480 Oh, well, honestly –

01:44:09.420 Would you object to that?

01:44:10.320 I don't know if I really would.

01:44:11.780 I think – honestly, yeah, maybe I wouldn't.

01:44:13.660 I kind of just thought maybe I could hypothetically, but I don't know if I would.

01:44:17.260 I mean –

01:44:18.060 I'm just looking for consistency here.

01:44:19.620 Yeah, no, I get that.

01:44:20.420 If you're like, I don't really object to men doing it, then I –

01:44:22.660 Yeah.

01:44:23.800 Yeah, fine.

01:44:24.360 I think it would be like a problem if it was like they were doing that with women they knew

01:44:28.760 and it was like women, you know, that – I don't know.

01:44:31.200 I feel like it's just like you are just like a face.

01:44:33.980 I think also dating apps in a college town like Isla Vista is very different than dating

01:44:38.840 apps somewhere else.

01:44:40.040 That's true.

01:44:41.560 That's fair.

01:44:42.520 That's fair.

01:44:43.920 Okay, so where were we?

01:44:46.200 Well, we got through all those.

01:44:48.960 Wait, there was something about – but a bunch of ugly guys are on the apps.

01:44:54.920 That's crazy.

01:44:55.220 Yeah, maybe not everyone's ugly, but like, okay, I think that the ones that I personally –

01:45:04.340 like, okay, this – I think this is actually how Hinch works, so this might explain also

01:45:08.240 my attitude is that they lock up the people – your preferences behind roses.

01:45:13.420 So you have to give a rose to people that would be like probably more your type, and you

01:45:18.020 have to pay for a rose.

01:45:19.600 And I just also think I wouldn't give a rose to someone.

01:45:23.620 It just comes across as a little weird, but –

01:45:26.640 Why is that?

01:45:27.200 Why does it come across as a little weird?

01:45:28.360 I think because you know you have to pay for it.

01:45:31.640 It's kind of weird.

01:45:32.860 They give you some free ones.

01:45:33.220 Oh, I see.

01:45:33.920 Yeah, they give you like one free – yeah.

01:45:36.140 I think it's one –

01:45:36.980 Oh, to pay for that, though, yeah.

01:45:38.300 Yeah, you know, I think that would be –

01:45:39.380 To pay would be a little weird.

01:45:40.380 To pay – yeah, to pay for that I think would be weird.

01:45:43.060 Hold on.

01:45:43.380 So you have to give someone a rose to be able to see your preference?

01:45:46.640 Like, okay, so – yeah, it's kind of hard because I can't like just project it on the

01:45:50.780 screen.

01:45:52.460 It's like – so, you know, when you're scrolling through any kind of dating app, there's like

01:45:56.940 a super like and stuff, so you just have like the regular like matches, like you send

01:46:00.780 a – you know, you're scrolling, you send like a heart, and then there's like this other

01:46:04.200 section that's like – that you – they're your most compatible matches, and you can send

01:46:13.180 them like a rose.

01:46:14.740 You get one free rose to send to one of those people.

01:46:17.160 But how do you know those are your most compatible matches?

01:46:20.480 Based on what?

01:46:21.620 Are you at the top or whatever?

01:46:22.180 Yeah.

01:46:22.480 I could have sworn it says compatible.

01:46:23.180 It's not always –

01:46:24.320 So the way that this dating app works specifically is you have your regular pool of people where

01:46:30.800 it's kind of like they'll cater it towards your preferences.

01:46:34.700 Aristotle is debt donated $100.

01:46:36.860 If someone is born with male chromosomes, Brian, and a female reproductive system, are

01:46:44.160 they a man or a woman?

01:46:45.700 If they can choose, why not everyone else?

01:46:48.200 Bro, you're coming out of left field with this one.

01:46:50.060 Yeah.

01:46:50.940 For real.

01:46:51.800 If someone is born with female – wait, male chromosomes?

01:46:56.040 So wait, Brian and a female reproductive system – hold on, let me fucking parse this.

01:47:04.080 Okay.

01:47:04.360 Hey, I understand what they're saying.

01:47:08.920 So like they have – yeah, they have male chromosomes, but they have a female reproductive

01:47:16.660 system.

01:47:17.500 If they can choose their sex, why not everybody else?

01:47:22.460 Wait, is that an actual genetic occurrence?

01:47:24.720 So it's like a one in like –

01:47:29.000 What's the term for that?

01:47:30.940 So it's called intersex.

01:47:33.280 Yeah.

01:47:33.480 It's also more than one way to be intersex.

01:47:35.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:36.100 It's a hermaphrodite, isn't it?

01:47:37.300 It's a hermaphrodite.

01:47:37.980 Yeah.

01:47:38.540 What it is?

01:47:39.260 So it's hermaphroditic.

01:47:40.440 Yes.

01:47:41.100 Hermaphroditic is specifically both reproductive organs.

01:47:43.400 Yeah, yeah.

01:47:43.680 So it's both reproductive organs.

01:47:45.700 But sometimes it'll be like in varying degrees.

01:47:48.440 Like sometimes it's way more male reproductive organ than female.

01:47:52.180 So it's like there's a spectrum in that, in the intersex category.

01:47:57.380 So it's like an extremely rare condition.

01:48:01.880 So –

01:48:02.000 So then they're just intersex.

01:48:03.800 Yeah, so they're just intersex.

01:48:04.900 They're neither male or female, right?

01:48:06.260 Well, so that's like – that's an extreme case-by-case scenario.

01:48:11.740 Like sometimes it's medically necessary to like choose – they're taking like a microcosm of like – it's a small, small percentage of people.

01:48:23.680 And trying to draw a conclusive, I guess, line of thinking to everybody else.

01:48:30.800 And it just doesn't really work that way.

01:48:33.960 All right.

01:48:34.760 We have Kara.

01:48:37.280 This makes me want to delete dating apps entirely.

01:48:40.780 They have ruined our dating culture and has become a beauty contest.

01:48:43.640 Always swiping to see who is better out there.

01:48:46.920 Okay.

01:48:48.200 Where were we before you were making a point before that TTS came in?

01:48:52.340 Oh, yeah.

01:48:53.680 Oh, yeah.

01:48:54.280 So I was explaining how the dating app works.

01:48:56.200 So you have your regular pool of people that are kind of catered towards your preferences.

01:49:01.320 And then there's like the – there's like a special section with like the quote-unquote hot people.

01:49:08.380 And it's the people who have like the most –

01:49:10.480 How do you get in that?

01:49:11.360 Well, so if you get in that section, it's because your profile has a lot of interactions.

01:49:17.360 Like a lot of people are like stopping and like will sit on the profile or a lot of people will like it or whatever.

01:49:22.480 Or if you're a hot profile, then they'll put you in this special section where like you can receive roses.

01:49:29.360 And then people will send those.

01:49:31.080 Got it.

01:49:31.440 Okay.

01:49:32.160 I understand that.

01:49:32.900 Wait.

01:49:33.060 Actually, it's kind of an interesting thought.

01:49:35.440 You said that most of the men that you'll see on the dating apps, you don't find them like super physically attractive.

01:49:41.180 Yeah.

01:49:41.440 But I would – yeah.

01:49:42.720 Okay.

01:49:43.180 I will say that.

01:49:44.260 But there are like guys that I feel like have cool style or like other attributes that I'm like still interested in.

01:49:50.000 Sure.

01:49:50.520 So going around the panel on this, maybe some of you have been on dating apps, maybe not.

01:49:56.700 You can apply this to in person.

01:49:59.220 What percent of men would you say you find attractive?

01:50:04.580 Starting with you.

01:50:05.420 Honestly, none.

01:50:11.180 Wait.

01:50:13.200 None?

01:50:14.420 I don't find people like physically attractive too often.

01:50:19.920 It's very, very, very rare.

01:50:21.700 What typically gets me is I'll like the person and then they look attractive.

01:50:27.100 But have – I mean you've never seen – I'm sure you've seen like a physically attractive guy.

01:50:33.860 Maybe like one in a million.

01:50:35.300 I don't know.

01:50:35.760 One in –

01:50:37.300 Yeah.

01:50:37.780 That's cap.

01:50:38.860 I really don't see people and think that's an attractive person.

01:50:43.400 I mean it's different for girls.

01:50:45.500 You see girls and it's like that's a very pretty girl.

01:50:47.720 Wait.

01:50:47.860 Wait.

01:50:48.380 Actually, going around the table first.

01:50:50.660 Who – is anybody here bi?

01:50:53.860 Show of – just show of hands.

01:50:55.060 I was a little bit curious.

01:50:55.840 I wasn't raising my hand.

01:50:56.800 I was just –

01:50:57.280 Oh, I thought you weren't raising your hands.

01:50:59.680 People saying, nah, shit, fuck.

01:51:01.260 Exposed.

01:51:03.760 Anybody bi?

01:51:05.400 I mean there's more than just bi.

01:51:07.780 Oh, well, just to keep things simple I guess, you know.

01:51:12.660 Into the mic if you can.

01:51:13.780 Thank you.

01:51:15.480 Sure.

01:51:15.880 You're talking like pan?

01:51:17.520 Are you pan?

01:51:18.280 Yeah.

01:51:20.500 Pansexual.

01:51:22.380 Attracted to cuddler.

01:51:23.280 Aristotle is debt donated $100.

01:51:27.900 Androgen insensitivity is the term you're looking for and my point has not been addressed.

01:51:33.740 They are born with exclusively female reproductive organs, not intersex.

01:51:38.420 Do they look like a dude or like a woman?

01:51:43.740 I don't know.

01:51:44.420 I think the answer to this is whoever the individual is, how they feel about themselves.

01:51:49.220 Oh, that's what they're saying.

01:51:51.120 If they feel they are a man, they're a man.

01:51:53.240 If they feel they are a girl, they're a girl.

01:51:54.380 I'm still not a munch.

01:51:55.360 If they feel they're not a munch, then I'm sorry.

01:51:58.180 I'm sorry, I rest all.

01:51:59.480 I'm still not a munch.

01:52:00.560 Wait.

01:52:00.820 What were you saying?

01:52:02.060 I believe, and it's not just for people who are intersex or have a certain condition.

01:52:08.640 It goes for everyone.

01:52:10.200 However you feel you are, that's what you are.

01:52:13.880 So if I feel like I'm a millionaire, I'm a millionaire?

01:52:16.240 That's not exactly how that was to say.

01:52:18.820 No, but that's not what I mean.

01:52:19.800 I mean, it's up to each and every individual person to define who they are.

01:52:24.580 I mean, you cannot see it that way, but that's up to you.

01:52:27.860 They can still be who they are.

01:52:29.480 What's going on here is not the same as what's going on here.

01:52:32.580 Yeah, that's what we're trying to hear.

01:52:33.160 So what happens is when there is some sort of disruption between your mind and your body,

01:52:38.560 then that's when you get confused.

01:52:41.640 I think that you are born how you are born, and you can't change that.

01:52:46.900 So we can agree to disagree, because I'm not going to change your minds,

01:52:49.960 and you guys aren't going to change my mind.

01:52:51.360 No, I'm not trying to change your mind.

01:52:53.560 I'm giving you facts.

01:52:54.620 That's not my opinion.

01:52:56.960 But those aren't necessarily facts.

01:52:58.560 You can Google it.

01:52:59.980 It's on there.

01:53:00.320 There's research.

01:53:00.960 You've got buried treasures, and you say you're a girl.

01:53:03.020 You're not a girl.

01:53:03.740 You have to literally, you can get rid of it and still be trans and all that.

01:53:06.800 I respect the trans and all that, but that's delusional.

01:53:08.940 If I say I'm a millionaire right now, and you look at my bank account,

01:53:10.980 am I a millionaire?

01:53:11.700 No, I'm not.

01:53:12.500 So that's a lie.

01:53:13.280 You're delusional.

01:53:14.220 You're feeding that delusion.

01:53:15.420 That doesn't make any sense.

01:53:16.640 So you can believe whatever you want, but the facts are there, baby.

01:53:18.840 I mean, it's like I'm coming here and saying I'm a dog.

01:53:21.140 I'm a mastiff.

01:53:21.960 I'm a furry.

01:53:23.220 Like, come on.

01:53:23.660 I'm not a dog, and I'm just not.

01:53:26.280 It's delusion.

01:53:27.920 I think whenever I get into this conversation, like, I have to realize that I disagree with your position.

01:53:37.080 I don't think what you feel like is who you are, a male, woman, whatever you identify as.

01:53:43.320 I think that's extremely destructive for society.

01:53:47.920 But when I say that, I see, like, I come at it as, like, I understand this person is a person.

01:53:55.980 I'm not looking at them like a piece of meat or an object or, like, as someone I'm fighting against.

01:54:01.280 Like, I don't care about you.

01:54:02.840 I'm dehumanizing you.

01:54:04.500 I don't come at it like that.

01:54:05.700 Like, I see it is a mental condition.

01:54:10.060 Like, it is how you think you see yourself.

01:54:13.500 It's how you feel about yourself.

01:54:14.980 By definition, it's in your head.

01:54:18.060 So it's the same thing as people who are psychopaths or maybe they have other psychological illnesses.

01:54:27.880 It's in that same category, and it had been defined that way all the way up until a specific movement.

01:54:33.520 So you have to treat the other person like a human, but you also have to realize, like, it is by all definitions a mental illness because, I mean, there's a lot of negative repercussions when you buy into their delusion or their mental state.

01:54:52.500 It's just, it's not healthy for the person individually.

01:54:57.440 It's also not healthy for society as a whole.

01:54:59.400 And I agree with him.

01:55:00.220 I think that we all need to respect each other as humans because at the end of the day, we're all humans.

01:55:05.080 It doesn't matter we're the same race, we're humans.

01:55:07.100 But at the same time, I will respect your choices.

01:55:11.800 You can make whatever choice in your life that you want to make.

01:55:14.940 It has nothing to do with me.

01:55:16.920 But you have to respect that I'm not going to buy into that delusion.

01:55:22.320 Your response?

01:55:23.360 Well, I don't know how to respond to this considering there is plenty of research, even within what's currently being done, as well as the past, that that's not, it's not a medical disorder.

01:55:39.500 It's not a delusion.

01:55:41.420 But I don't exactly have the resources right now to, like, pull that up and show you guys that.

01:55:47.580 So I'm not going to try to change your guys' minds.

01:55:49.580 And it's just kind of disrespectful to say it's delusion.

01:55:54.480 Aristotle is debt donated $100.

01:55:57.700 What facts determine your gender?

01:56:00.840 Chromosomes?

01:56:02.000 Genetics?

01:56:02.980 These don't always agree.

01:56:05.140 If neither, then why pretend that either is necessary?

01:56:10.240 Gender itself is a construct.

01:56:12.960 I mean, sex is different than gender.

01:56:15.560 So technically, none of it's real.

01:56:18.960 If you want to look at it that way.

01:56:20.560 It is very real when I have my period every month.

01:56:23.040 Yeah.

01:56:24.520 It's real when you have TCOs.

01:56:27.320 I have a chat that's going to come in here.

01:56:28.980 We have Donald Trump's brown eye.

01:56:31.500 Okay.

01:56:32.460 With the 50.

01:56:33.520 There are two genders, man and woman, vagine and peen.

01:56:39.740 Not my words.

01:56:40.880 Everything else is a mental illness.

01:56:42.540 Also, everyone has a brown eye.

01:56:44.420 Thank you for that, Donald Trump.

01:56:45.820 That was poetic.

01:56:46.960 I have a question for you.

01:56:48.200 Poetic.

01:56:49.200 So what if someone says that, or what if someone is diagnosed schizophrenic and they say that their entire life they've been male and all of a sudden they say, I'm a female, but they've been diagnosed with schizophrenia at a young age.

01:57:04.880 What would you say?

01:57:05.900 That is an interesting scenario because it's not exactly how schizophrenia works.

01:57:13.900 Schizophrenia, there's specific types.

01:57:16.360 There's paranoid type as one example, but it goes to specific auditory hallucinations, visual hallucinations.

01:57:24.200 It's not like a view of the self all the time like that.

01:57:29.060 It can be though.

01:57:30.140 But it's not, that's really not how that works.

01:57:32.980 And a lot of people who identify as trans woman, man, they also have mental illness.

01:57:41.400 Like they have depression and anxiety, but it's not from people not accepting them.

01:57:45.440 In fact, in this day and age, they're more accepted here than in any other country, especially.

01:57:50.720 Yeah, if you go to a place like my country.

01:57:52.440 Exactly.

01:57:53.140 Like a throw wall country.

01:57:54.620 Well, and that's why I, that's why like this issue is important to me because I care about their mental well-being.

01:58:01.300 Like there are extreme side effects that come across, like come along with the disorder of thinking that you are something that you're not.

01:58:11.520 Like there are higher rates of, uh, yeah, I can't say exactly, but yeah, there's higher rates of that.

01:58:20.220 There are also extremely high rates of mental illness outside of, uh, gender dysphoria.

01:58:26.600 So, like we can't have this conversation genuinely and just ignore all of that and say that this isn't a, um, uh, confounding factor to all of those other mental illnesses that are plaguing them.

01:58:43.960 I agree.

01:58:44.840 I think we all need to be respected because we're all humans.

01:58:47.640 I'm going to say that again.

01:58:49.400 At the same time has greatly destroyed our society what's happening right now.

01:58:54.200 And I think that you wanted to respond to go ahead.

01:58:57.260 Um, I think I forgot what you had just said that I was going to respond to.

01:59:04.160 That, uh, transgender people deserve like, you know, mental health.

01:59:10.180 Yeah.

01:59:10.640 I like treatment.

01:59:12.240 The point I'm trying to make is like, I want them to get better.

01:59:14.860 Yeah.

01:59:15.000 I think that adding into their mental illness or trying to, I guess, what's the word I'm looking for, um, affirm their mental illness is going to do more harm in the long run than it does good.

01:59:31.100 But forcing people who identify as trans to not present themselves as the gender they are can also cause plenty and plenty of severe negative mental effects.

01:59:42.380 It can worsen disorder, like mental disorders, mental illnesses.

01:59:46.680 It's, can cause suicides as well.

01:59:48.620 So I feel like it is a complex issue in truth, but.

01:59:53.580 Truth bomb donated $100.

01:59:56.580 Gender is not a construct.

01:59:59.060 Sex slash gender are the same thing.

02:00:01.380 If you think otherwise, why can't a white man identify as a black man or a black woman?

02:00:08.340 You can't change these things.

02:00:10.740 Trans women are men.

02:00:12.100 Uh, well, a couple of clarifying questions on this topic.

02:00:15.940 So can you change your sex?

02:00:21.260 I don't think I have enough research on that specifically to say with the definitions, if that's what's being done, if technically you are changing the sex, but you can have affirming surgery and have all the parts of what you identify as.

02:00:38.420 They've actually made advancements in the surgery to the point where it'll be possible for people to have functioning uteruses in the future and actually carry.

02:00:46.060 That's a lie.

02:00:46.600 That's a lie.

02:00:47.060 That's a lie.

02:00:47.460 That's not true.

02:00:48.940 The, the male body doesn't have the cavity to hold a uterus and be able to, to, to, to make it work physically.

02:00:57.060 It might not work out.

02:00:57.900 There's even trans, there's even trans women that came forward about stuff.

02:01:01.860 So say, well, I'll give you that.

02:01:03.740 Well, okay.

02:01:04.400 So I'll just, I'll give you that.

02:01:05.920 Say they figure out a way to where some, a man can get a uterus and can give birth to a child.

02:01:14.080 So like, say they figure that out.

02:01:16.020 I'm just going to give you that.

02:01:17.840 Aristotle is dead, donated $100.

02:01:21.100 Brian, I expect an answer from you at this point, and I still haven't gotten it.

02:01:26.780 Also, trans people have happy lives after transitioning and conversion therapy doesn't work.

02:01:33.020 That's actually false.

02:01:34.060 That's, that's against most evidence.

02:01:36.500 Yeah.

02:01:36.780 I would like a source for that.

02:01:38.000 Well, so he's expecting an answer from me specifically.

02:01:41.480 The, the, your original question was, if someone is born with male chromosomes and a female reproductive system, are they a man or a woman?

02:01:51.340 I don't, I don't know.

02:01:53.720 That's my answer.

02:01:55.280 I don't know.

02:01:56.300 There's so much of a range for that.

02:02:00.600 I think they're intersex.

02:02:01.820 I think that's the answer.

02:02:03.020 I think they're intersex.

02:02:03.860 Yeah, exactly.

02:02:04.160 I think that's the answer.

02:02:04.900 You know, seeing like those videos, like those YouTube videos of people, of like people who literally look like men.

02:02:10.120 They have the facial hair and everything, but they have vaginas.

02:02:12.100 So it's like, I don't know what I can call you other than intersex.

02:02:14.980 That's an extremely rare, like it's an extremely rare scenario.

02:02:18.960 So there's, there's probably the majority of people who are trans are not intersex.

02:02:23.680 Yeah.

02:02:23.880 So say I give you that small population, say I give you the intersex population, the other 99.99% of people, like what about them?

02:02:34.600 They're not intersex.

02:02:35.560 So the, essentially the intersex like argument, you can push that off the table.

02:02:40.060 Say I give that to you.

02:02:41.000 It's not the same.

02:02:41.540 It's not the same thing.

02:02:42.500 Like we, we need to have a genuine conversation and like to do that.

02:02:46.820 We have to talk about what if it's just somebody who's normal, uh, man, woman, biologically, we need to have that conversation because the intersex thing, yeah, you can, you can make a medical argument for that.

02:02:59.680 I can give you that.

02:03:00.880 But going back to, um, uh, how I was going to clarify with man giving birth to baby, say that happens at some point, uh, there, the reproductive system is not the only thing that makes a man, a man.

02:03:15.460 They are different in, in their brain, like their brain chemistry, uh, hormones that are being produced, like their bone density, muscle mass, uh, the amount of fat that men carry extreme.

02:03:28.780 And usually the amount that, of fat that women carry is, well, it's, it's more than men, but it's also more than men so that they can nurture their baby as they're being, uh, yeah.

02:03:40.100 As they're growing inside of you.

02:03:41.480 Yeah.

02:03:41.760 Um, so I would, I would argue that there are so many more determining factors that make a man, a man, or a woman, a woman, other than, hey, I have a uterus or, hey, I have a penis.

02:03:54.140 Yes.

02:03:55.180 Agree.

02:03:55.700 I agree.

02:03:57.000 But yeah, yeah.

02:03:58.000 So I, like there are other factors other than that, that I would say.

02:04:03.100 I would also agree with other factors that.

02:04:06.020 Christ is Lord donated $100.

02:04:09.280 Listen, for all of human history, for thousands of years, there has been question as to understanding what men and women are until 20 years ago.

02:04:18.800 Is our society becoming enlightened or is it unraveling?

02:04:21.960 We're devolving.

02:04:23.360 I mean, actually, uh, this is not, this is not a new topic.

02:04:27.400 Um, yeah, people have been trying to unravel the creation order for all of history.

02:04:34.560 God had set man to be man and woman to be woman, made them for each other.

02:04:39.740 And humanity, fallen humanity hates that.

02:04:43.280 And they, they push away from that day after day.

02:04:46.660 So it's not new.

02:04:47.740 Um, it, we have seen this pendulum swing in that direction over the last 20 years.

02:04:52.360 And I pray it swings back because, uh, this is, uh, historically the downfall of society.

02:04:58.840 It's one of the major pillars for that.

02:05:01.480 A couple of questions here.

02:05:03.060 Uh, so I was asking if you can change your sex, because I think we maybe agree here at the table.

02:05:08.340 Sex is different from gender.

02:05:10.020 Aristotle is debt donated $100.

02:05:12.040 I don't know how I have to keep saying this, but androgynous insensitivity equals slash equals intersection.

02:05:20.040 If there are other factors that determine one's gender, why not self-determination?

02:05:25.720 Oh, like you pick yourself.

02:05:27.480 You pick your own gender.

02:05:28.440 Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

02:05:29.360 But he said the, the sex, the chromosomal sex was, was male, but had, hold on, let me see if I,

02:05:38.980 no female reproductive system, male chromosomes.

02:05:45.220 So that's, so you're saying that's not intersex.

02:05:47.420 Okay.

02:05:49.500 So is that a, is that a thing?

02:05:51.780 I don't know.

02:05:52.480 But it's not intersex.

02:05:53.660 So what is the, I don't know.

02:05:54.920 Is that even a thing?

02:05:56.000 Maybe this is just a thought experiment.

02:05:57.440 It could be, is it a thought experiment or is this something that actually happens in any case?

02:06:01.760 It's not clear to me if that would be the case for all people who considers, consider themselves trans.

02:06:07.440 I don't know.

02:06:08.600 What is the actual medical, is there a medical term or scientific term for what you're describing here?

02:06:13.260 If it's not intersex, is that there's, there's other, I don't know.

02:06:17.060 I don't know these offhand, but.

02:06:18.820 Yeah.

02:06:19.480 Didn't he say it was the androgen insensitivity thing?

02:06:22.840 That's the term that they said?

02:06:24.680 But either way.

02:06:25.300 I need more descriptive.

02:06:27.260 Like, does it look?

02:06:28.680 So looks entirely like a woman, but has male chromosomes.

02:06:33.160 I would, again, just ask, is that actually a thing?

02:06:36.800 I mean, I can Google it really quick.

02:06:39.640 Androgynous insensitivity.

02:06:42.080 Androgynous.

02:06:42.480 I think they said androgen.

02:06:44.040 Yeah.

02:06:44.340 The hormones.

02:06:45.500 Sensitivity.

02:06:46.260 Do you have like an idea of that?

02:06:47.120 Syndrome.

02:06:48.720 AIS is when the person who is genetically male is resistant to hormones that produce a male appearance called androgens.

02:06:55.280 As a result, the person has some of the physical traits of a female, but the genetic makeup of a male.

02:07:01.640 I'm curious, can that person, are they capable of getting pregnant?

02:07:06.520 Because I know like some people are intersex.

02:07:08.180 I know that's not what you're talking about.

02:07:09.940 Like they, sometimes they can't get pregnant.

02:07:13.640 Oh, no.

02:07:14.100 I don't know about the intersex thing.

02:07:15.500 Are there any other medical questions that would have to be asked to clarify this one very, very specific case?

02:07:23.000 Like, I'm not a medical doctor.

02:07:26.900 I'm not a medical doctor that specializes in genetics.

02:07:31.840 I think the argument he's trying to make is like, let's use this extreme example to make the argument for the whole.

02:07:39.520 Yeah.

02:07:39.720 Well, yeah, so like I said earlier, what if I just give you that?

02:07:43.420 What if I say, okay, sure, we'll let those people decide.

02:07:47.240 And they, like, okay, I will let these intersex people decide.

02:07:50.940 Like, they have male and female characteristics.

02:07:54.280 Like, sure, I can give you that small percentage, but that still leaves the vast majority of people.

02:08:02.840 That we need to have this, like, actual talk.

02:08:06.540 Like, we need to debate that issue.

02:08:08.460 Is his argument also that all trans people have androgen insensitivity syndrome?

02:08:14.920 Is that the position here?

02:08:16.820 I don't know.

02:08:17.760 I don't know.

02:08:18.380 Well, a couple questions on this really quick.

02:08:20.140 I'll try to relate it to dating.

02:08:22.480 Maybe we'll wait until she's back from the bathroom.

02:08:26.200 So, actually, let me read this chat.

02:08:29.240 I'll wait until she's back from the bathroom.

02:08:31.480 Daniel Martin, ladies, what if a man replied to your, we'll come back to this conversation, but ladies,

02:08:35.640 what if a man replied to your dating profile and appeared to have everything you wanted in a partner,

02:08:39.800 your perfect match, except he was confined to a wheelchair?

02:08:44.620 Would you give him a chance or pass and tell you freaking rock as always?

02:08:48.840 Thank you, Daniel.

02:08:50.060 I agree with him.

02:08:51.240 So, going around the table, dating profile has, appears to have everything you wanted in a partner,

02:08:57.100 perfect match, except confined to a wheelchair.

02:09:00.280 Would you give him a chance or no go?

02:09:02.560 Give him a chance.

02:09:03.480 I don't see why not.

02:09:05.060 I would, too.

02:09:06.400 Yeah.

02:09:06.980 Yeah.

02:09:07.460 I would.

02:09:08.340 No.

02:09:09.420 Yes.

02:09:10.740 Okay.

02:09:11.160 It's a perfect match.

02:09:11.960 All right.

02:09:13.100 Yeah.

02:09:13.640 I'll wheel you everywhere.

02:09:15.840 Dazzle your wheelchair.

02:09:16.700 There you go.

02:09:17.760 Dazzled.

02:09:18.560 I got you.

02:09:20.560 Bedazzled wheelchair.

02:09:21.120 I'm not that strong, though, but I got you.

02:09:23.820 Not yet.

02:09:25.180 Just one question for you, but you said that you find, this sort of stemmed from our conversation

02:09:29.840 about, you said that you rarely see men who are physically attractive.

02:09:36.000 Is that correct?

02:09:37.140 Yeah.

02:09:38.080 Like, none.

02:09:40.580 Yeah, not really.

02:09:41.820 But you'll look at a woman and be like, she's beautiful.

02:09:46.460 Yeah.

02:09:47.440 That's much more frequent for you?

02:09:48.960 Isn't that sexist, though?

02:09:50.680 I don't know.

02:09:51.160 Maybe you like girls, then.

02:09:52.840 Maybe you just like girls.

02:09:54.040 Or maybe you're just a little bit resistant to, you know, like, men.

02:09:57.340 Like, maybe you just don't want to think about them like that.

02:09:59.860 Maybe it makes you uncomfortable.

02:10:01.040 It could be that one, maybe.

02:10:03.020 I mean, I don't know why I feel that way.

02:10:05.000 It's just kind of how it is.

02:10:06.860 I mean, if I feel comfortable with someone and they make me feel really happy to be around

02:10:11.000 them, they'll start to be much more attractive.

02:10:13.020 Is there, like, a male celebrity you can think of that you think, like, there's not one person

02:10:19.700 you can...

02:10:20.320 Because I don't know any of them.

02:10:22.440 There's not, like, one guy you can just name who you're like, yeah, he's hot.

02:10:25.360 Like, physically attractive.

02:10:25.940 Yeah, like, physically attractive.

02:10:26.960 You'll see him on his screen.

02:10:27.640 Physically attractive.

02:10:28.200 What about Superman?

02:10:29.560 Superman.

02:10:30.140 I didn't get...

02:10:30.740 Yeah, Superman.

02:10:32.320 Okay.

02:10:33.700 Huh?

02:10:33.880 Spider-Man.

02:10:34.500 Batman, anybody?

02:10:35.600 Well, actually, kind of related to her thing, too.

02:10:38.260 So, we have two girls here who seem...

02:10:39.780 I was going around on this.

02:10:41.480 We didn't fully go around.

02:10:43.120 We'll come back to the topic at hand.

02:10:45.480 Oh, you're...

02:10:46.100 Wait.

02:10:46.400 You're getting up?

02:10:46.960 I'm all good.

02:10:47.860 Oh, you're getting up?

02:10:48.820 I'll be quick.

02:10:49.440 I'm sorry.

02:10:50.020 Okay.

02:10:51.620 Bro.

02:10:52.120 All right.

02:10:53.320 I got to wait.

02:10:54.200 Guys, I got to wait until she's back.

02:10:55.680 She could have waited, but...

02:10:57.100 Nick, pull up Twitch.

02:11:00.220 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

02:11:02.740 Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.

02:11:05.320 I think you have to click on new activity.

02:11:08.240 Oh, okay.

02:11:08.820 Aristotle is debt donated $100.

02:11:12.120 Duh.

02:11:12.680 Of course, I'm not saying all trans people have androgen insensitivity.

02:11:17.120 Not the same as interest.

02:11:18.420 What I am saying is that gender is a form of self-expression.

02:11:21.760 No.

02:11:22.360 No.

02:11:23.040 No.

02:11:24.640 No.

02:11:25.380 But are you saying that androgen insensitivity is a form of self-expression?

02:11:31.360 Or it would occur to me that these people have a genuine, like a...

02:11:37.440 Medical condition.

02:11:38.300 Medical.

02:11:38.880 Like there's a difference.

02:11:40.460 And so I'm not really sure what you're saying, Aristotle.

02:11:46.640 Oh, here, we have a message here from Flat Earth Denier.

02:11:54.580 He denies the flat earth.

02:11:56.060 Canadian 50.

02:11:57.080 If genitals don't determine your gender, why would chopping them off affirm it?

02:12:04.080 Do you care to respond to that?

02:12:06.080 I cannot speak for every single trans person, but from what I do know,

02:12:09.520 not every single trans person does want to have gender-affirming surgery.

02:12:14.100 That's true.

02:12:14.820 Some people are perfectly content with their physical body.

02:12:18.720 They just express themselves as the gender they say they are.

02:12:23.860 Okay.

02:12:24.260 It doesn't require you to change your genitals.

02:12:27.980 You don't have to.

02:12:28.740 Some people do.

02:12:29.360 Some people really feel that's what they need to do so that they can feel at home in their body.

02:12:34.440 Some people already feel at home in their body.

02:12:36.120 They just...

02:12:38.100 I don't even really know how to exactly...

02:12:41.100 I feel like it would be fruitful to go around the table and ask everybody's pronouns.

02:12:57.780 What?

02:12:58.260 I'm going to deny this question.

02:12:59.740 What?

02:13:00.320 That's a good faith.

02:13:01.120 I feel like the second I say what I'm going to say, I'm just going to get attacked.

02:13:03.320 That's good faith.

02:13:04.600 Wait, no.

02:13:05.100 No, I'm not going to attack you.

02:13:06.460 I'm not going to attack.

02:13:07.220 I'm not going to attack.

02:13:08.040 I'm not going to attack.

02:13:08.600 We're not...

02:13:09.120 Yeah, we're supposed to respect each other.

02:13:10.820 He won't attack.

02:13:12.360 We're just having a conversation.

02:13:15.600 I'm going to be called delusional.

02:13:16.980 Well, I've already been called delusional.

02:13:18.880 I'm saying what you're saying is delusional.

02:13:20.200 I'm not saying you're delusional.

02:13:21.280 You can think however you want, but it's facts.

02:13:23.160 If you're going and making stuff up and you can go online and Google it, that is delusional.

02:13:26.980 If I told you right now I'm an orange man, that's delusional because you're looking at me right now.

02:13:31.100 I'm a black woman.

02:13:32.460 So I'm not saying you're delusional.

02:13:33.800 I'm just saying what you're saying.

02:13:34.440 Let's leave the orange people out of this.

02:13:35.940 I'm just trying to be respectful.

02:13:37.320 I'm not calling you that.

02:13:37.720 Leave the orange people out of this.

02:13:39.620 Leave our probable future president out of this.

02:13:42.300 Future president.

02:13:42.880 Leave Trump out of this conversation.

02:13:47.260 I agree.

02:13:47.600 Did you want to respond?

02:13:49.020 I use any and all pronouns.

02:13:51.160 I have no preference.

02:13:53.480 You don't have a preference?

02:13:55.100 Because I was going around and figured, hey, let's get pronouns from everybody.

02:13:59.020 So wait, you use any and all pronouns?

02:14:04.240 Like does it, but does it change?

02:14:06.900 Like is it fluid?

02:14:09.440 Yeah, I guess.

02:14:10.380 I mean, whatever anyone says at any moment, if they're referring to me, I don't.

02:14:14.840 Wait, they get to pick what your pronouns are?

02:14:16.700 I mean, they don't get to necessarily pick.

02:14:18.120 They all work.

02:14:18.960 They can just say whatever.

02:14:19.600 So I could call you he.

02:14:20.920 Yeah.

02:14:21.360 You'd be fine?

02:14:22.020 I could call you that on accident.

02:14:22.640 I see what she's saying.

02:14:24.140 Wait, you'd be fine if I called you he.

02:14:25.960 Yeah.

02:14:27.040 Or if I called you she.

02:14:28.400 Yeah.

02:14:29.360 They?

02:14:29.920 Yeah.

02:14:30.400 It?

02:14:31.120 Sure.

02:14:31.660 You're fine with it.

02:14:33.160 Yeah.

02:14:33.880 Your majesty.

02:14:35.040 You fine with that?

02:14:36.560 Can we ask why?

02:14:37.660 Your majesty.

02:14:39.100 Because I personally feel no strong connection to any gender.

02:14:42.640 I feel like I just am what I am.

02:14:45.260 I feel like, isn't it almost more offensive to be like, I take them all.

02:14:52.740 I am all genders.

02:14:54.800 Fuck you.

02:14:55.860 Pokemon.

02:14:56.320 I don't see how that would be offensive.

02:14:58.260 I could see somebody getting offended over that.

02:15:00.600 I mean, if they do, then they do.

02:15:03.380 I claim them all.

02:15:04.900 Everyone can define themselves.

02:15:05.640 I am everything.

02:15:06.560 I'm omnipotent.

02:15:07.440 But I'm not taking it away from anybody else.

02:15:10.040 Is that all powerful?

02:15:11.300 No, yeah.

02:15:12.100 Omnipotent is all powerful.

02:15:13.720 Your gender is omni?

02:15:16.900 Sure.

02:15:17.540 That'd be sick.

02:15:18.400 They slash omni?

02:15:19.640 What about you?

02:15:20.520 Your pronouns?

02:15:21.460 Is she her?

02:15:22.100 She her?

02:15:22.660 She her.

02:15:23.760 She her.

02:15:24.540 She her.

02:15:25.580 She her.

02:15:26.180 Aristotle is debt donated $100.

02:15:29.460 If gender affirming care gives someone a better quality of life, look at the studies.

02:15:34.520 It is a good thing.

02:15:36.060 Prove me wrong, Brian.

02:15:37.960 Why are you coming at me?

02:15:38.880 I feel like I haven't even really had a strong position.

02:15:41.880 You haven't even given his point of view.

02:15:42.760 Yeah.

02:15:43.160 You got money.

02:15:43.960 I don't really have.

02:15:46.260 Donating.

02:15:46.700 If gender affirming care, I think that was you who was me talking about that.

02:15:50.500 Yeah, no, I said something about it.

02:15:52.040 Gender affirming care gives someone a better quality of life.

02:15:54.280 Look at the studies.

02:15:55.040 It is a good thing.

02:15:56.620 Well, I mean, what about people, like I've heard like detransitioners.

02:16:01.380 And then there's somebody who's been blowing up on Twitter, like for, so to make the neopenis

02:16:06.720 is what it's called or whatever, they have to like remove the skin from your arm.

02:16:12.120 And they just like peel the skin from your arm here, I guess.

02:16:17.020 To make a, to give a woman who's transitioning into a man a peen.

02:16:23.340 Ouch.

02:16:23.980 And like it gets infections or something.

02:16:26.640 Look, I don't know.

02:16:28.980 Is it, I actually, wait, hold on.

02:16:32.320 I have to, now I have to wait until she's back to ask these fucking questions.

02:16:35.160 Okay, can I say something about that real quick though?

02:16:36.660 Nobody leave once she gets back, please, so I can go around asking the question.

02:16:40.260 What's your thing?

02:16:40.800 I feel like as, you know.

02:16:43.460 Daniel.

02:16:43.860 The whole gender affirming care, I think we should also, you know, give a lot of effort

02:16:47.920 to find out why they feel the way that they feel.

02:16:50.720 Because especially right now, this whole, you know, debate on gender and stuff, this is

02:16:56.260 like a new thing.

02:16:57.420 Okay, I did not grow up with this and I'm just literally 21.

02:17:01.260 So this, you know, we should also figure out why this is a thing.

02:17:05.340 Because I don't think that people are really dealing with, I don't know what gender I am.

02:17:10.260 I don't know, no, no, no.

02:17:11.300 It seems like a deeper.

02:17:12.700 Stepping from something.

02:17:13.280 Yeah, it's definitely something else.

02:17:16.400 Yeah.

02:17:16.820 I think a part of that is your family structure, how you are growing up, the father picture,

02:17:25.560 you know, like I think a lot of people who grow up with their father and mother and or

02:17:30.340 or the father was around, whatever, has a better coming life than an absent father.

02:17:37.520 I think you're hitting on something really important right here.

02:17:41.340 Like I think the lack of male figures in our culture, the lack of strong male leadership

02:17:48.940 is I think what breeds all of this nonsense.

02:17:53.040 Like if you don't have men who are willing to stand up and say this is what is right, this

02:17:58.480 is what is wrong.

02:17:58.900 The leaders.

02:17:59.700 The leaders, yes.

02:18:01.280 If you don't have men showing you what a man is, then I can see how all of these things

02:18:07.460 can be questioned.

02:18:08.060 If you have men walking around being able to push over like they're children and they have

02:18:13.980 no stances on anything and nothing is important to them and they'll just say whatever they

02:18:18.040 can say to get laid.

02:18:19.640 Like obviously people are going to have a difficult time understanding the difference between a

02:18:24.120 man and a woman.

02:18:25.420 But when you have a society that has a strong emphasis on what a man is, what he's supposed

02:18:30.480 to do, what his duty is to protect, to provide, to lead, when you don't have that, I can see

02:18:37.720 how all of this stuff comes out.

02:18:39.840 Everything crumbles.

02:18:41.080 Yeah.

02:18:41.740 Like if you grow up in a household with no father figure, what does it mean to be a man?

02:18:46.500 Because as a girl growing up, it wasn't so important to know that my dad was protecting

02:18:51.560 me and he was there for me.

02:18:53.380 So imagine growing up and don't have that male figure as a father that you know it will

02:19:01.120 protect you.

02:19:01.900 I'm not saying your mother won't.

02:19:03.260 Absolutely.

02:19:04.180 There's moms like my mom that will protect me with her life.

02:19:07.260 Mothers are extremely important.

02:19:08.280 Extremely important.

02:19:09.940 But the father has a job of protecting you and making sure you're safe and guiding you

02:19:16.220 and being the leader.

02:19:17.000 Another interesting statistic that has borne out is that families, I don't want to butcher

02:19:24.900 this, I might mess up when I say it, but families that have a two-parent househood, their children,

02:19:33.620 their statistical likelihood of going to prison, graduating high school, all of like a bunch

02:19:40.720 of these negative, not graduating high school, getting, having children out of wedlock, those

02:19:46.840 negative predictors, they have the same statistical likelihood of avoiding those if they have

02:19:53.120 a single father household and it doesn't hold the same for a single mother household.

02:19:57.720 It shows, I'm not bashing single mothers.

02:20:00.560 I think women who are raising children by themselves, that is an extremely hard place to be in.

02:20:08.640 And I empathize with your position.

02:20:12.260 I think it's a crime against you because, I mean, we've had a society that has promoted

02:20:18.120 that for a very long time, especially in minority neighborhoods, minority communities.

02:20:23.900 But, yeah, it shows the importance of fatherhood.

02:20:28.880 And I think fathers are extremely important.

02:20:31.420 Extremely important.

02:20:32.460 Extremely.

02:20:33.380 A couple questions here and then we'll get back to the what percentage of men you find

02:20:37.960 attractive question.

02:20:39.320 So, okay, we were talking about the, you know, the gender stuff.

02:20:42.160 So, I think one good clarifying question we should ask the whole panel, the whole table here is,

02:20:48.760 and I'll actually relate it back to dating here in a bit, what is a woman?

02:20:57.300 A woman is whoever defines themselves as a woman.

02:21:01.120 An adult human female.

02:21:03.460 A person who has female genitals and chromosomes.

02:21:08.300 Yeah, I'd probably say someone who identifies as a woman.

02:21:12.160 Someone who has female, same as her, genitals and chromosomes.

02:21:16.220 Same.

02:21:17.480 You're only a woman if you can have your period and have kids.

02:21:22.260 There's plenty of biological women who can't do either of that either.

02:21:26.100 We're not, we're just, we're just, do you mean like the essence of that?

02:21:29.800 Yes, thank you.

02:21:30.240 Okay.

02:21:31.180 All right.

02:21:31.400 Because I know there's some women who cannot bear child, so I'm not talking about those

02:21:33.880 type of women, but you know what I mean.

02:21:35.560 Wait, so, so just for, for you two, since I think you guys said that a woman is somebody

02:21:40.240 who identifies as a woman, is that, I don't want to misstate your positions, is that correct?

02:21:46.580 So can you, I'm, perhaps you can provide a more precise definition.

02:21:51.460 Can you define what a woman is without using the word woman?

02:21:54.980 Someone who defines himself as such?

02:22:02.040 As such.

02:22:03.500 Well, you haven't really improved a whole lot on the requested definition, but.

02:22:07.420 Killing of cereal donated $100.

02:22:10.540 So long as the message isn't pushing kids to mutilate themselves by preying on their uncertainties.

02:22:16.620 Adults who want to be delusional live in the country to do so, and they can.

02:22:21.720 Must protect the kids.

02:22:23.320 Agreed.

02:22:23.920 Very much agree.

02:22:24.820 I love that killer cereal.

02:22:26.140 I think if you're an adult and you want to do whatever you want to, that's fine.

02:22:29.760 But with kids, like, when I was five years old, I used to say, I want to be an astronaut,

02:22:33.740 I want to be a vet.

02:22:35.340 It's the same thing.

02:22:36.420 If you tell, if you let a kid make that decision at such a young age, and as an adult, do whatever

02:22:42.060 you want, but let's protect the kids until they can come to an age they can make their

02:22:46.160 own decisions.

02:22:46.980 Do you have any thoughts on that when it comes to children?

02:22:49.500 Like, because I think it sounded like you were in favor of gender affirming care.

02:22:54.860 What, any thoughts on, you know, someone who's 11, 12, 13, or do you think?

02:23:01.260 I feel like they should still be able to express themselves how they choose.

02:23:03.940 That doesn't necessarily mean surgery.

02:23:05.900 Of course, children should not be going under severe, serious surgeries necessarily.

02:23:12.720 I mean, there's plenty of checks that are done so to keep people from doing this.

02:23:17.560 Because if, and it prevents tons of trans people who are trans from even getting this

02:23:22.720 care because they're not deemed as qualifying for the surgeries.

02:23:27.980 But what about, like, the hormone medicine?

02:23:31.300 What's that called?

02:23:32.000 Yeah, like hormone blockers.

02:23:33.760 Puberty blockers.

02:23:34.700 Thank you.

02:23:35.060 Yeah, puberty blockers.

02:23:35.800 Puberty blockers.

02:23:36.500 You can take them as a kid, and then when you go off them, it, from what I know, because

02:23:40.960 I don't know a lot about puberty and hormone blockers, it doesn't keep you from developing

02:23:46.960 those traits later in life if you decide to go off them.

02:23:49.400 Wait, so you're saying, for example, let's say someone from the age, when does puberty

02:23:52.820 typically start, 10, 11, 12, around there?

02:23:55.400 Let's just say they started, I don't know, let's say the age is 12.

02:23:59.640 From 12 to 20, they use these puberty blockers.

02:24:03.860 I don't know if that's a typical age, they continue using it until, but are you saying that

02:24:08.040 once they get off it at 20, that it would, it would, like, they would just go ahead and

02:24:14.080 have their puberty at 20?

02:24:16.900 Is that, I'm not familiar with the...

02:24:18.940 I'm not fully familiar with hormone blockers either, so I'm going to concretely say...

02:24:24.140 Christ his Lord donated $100.

02:24:27.180 The reason we are dealing with gender confusion is moral decay without God.

02:24:32.160 Romans 1 says, just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a

02:24:37.760 depraved mind.

02:24:40.660 Yep, true, true.

02:24:41.800 Christ his Lord, okay, thank you for the TTS.

02:24:45.020 Appreciate it.

02:24:47.240 Wait, so, okay, but, so you don't object to the use of puberty blockers in children, is

02:24:53.760 that...

02:24:54.380 No, I don't object.

02:24:55.680 I feel like there's a lot of checks and balances in place that even prevent people who really

02:24:59.560 want to go on them from even being able to go on them.

02:25:01.540 So it's...

02:25:01.740 Are they?

02:25:02.160 I don't know.

02:25:02.540 It's not a foolproof system, but it's really, really hard for someone to just willy-nilly

02:25:07.540 go on something like that.

02:25:09.340 Is it?

02:25:09.960 Yeah.

02:25:10.400 I don't know.

02:25:11.220 Your thoughts on that?

02:25:12.420 Like, cool for the kids to go on puberty blockers?

02:25:16.660 I don't know about other people's kids, but for my own kids, I think it just would...

02:25:23.520 I honestly don't really know.

02:25:24.960 I'm not anywhere close to that.

02:25:27.420 I also, I think my view of gender is kind of like I know what I am and other people,

02:25:35.920 you know...

02:25:36.460 The way I said that women means that, like, how people identify themselves is that I think

02:25:43.600 that that is true because if someone thinks that they are a woman and maybe biologically

02:25:49.280 they weren't born a woman, I won't interfere with that.

02:25:52.360 And I think it's a lot to say that is a mental disorder because sexuality was also considered

02:25:59.120 a mental disorder for a very long time.

02:26:01.240 And sometimes it's still considered a mental disorder.

02:26:07.520 What do you mean sexuality as a mental disorder?

02:26:09.400 Sexuality, like being gay.

02:26:11.120 Yeah.

02:26:11.460 So let's stick, though, to the conversation in hand.

02:26:13.940 Yeah.

02:26:14.200 So strictly when it comes to the puberty blockers thing, when it comes to kids taking them in

02:26:20.740 favor, against...

02:26:22.520 I think I might be more against it for kids.

02:26:26.500 I know that I'm kind of like, I don't really know because I don't know if it's like, if

02:26:32.320 you wait too long, if you can't take them then, and if, you know, like, I'm not really

02:26:35.940 sure how it works exactly.

02:26:37.340 And I think it would just really depend on, you know, the case.

02:26:41.760 I don't really know.

02:26:42.760 One thing I do know about puberty blockers is they don't work if you take them later.

02:26:45.960 They only work if you take them early enough to prevent the hormones from making the permanent

02:26:50.380 changes.

02:26:50.780 So you can always go off of them and then get those changes, but you can't undo them

02:26:56.100 necessarily.

02:26:56.800 Well, I have seen some research, and I don't think it's true.

02:27:00.340 I don't think it's true that, like, you've, say you were born a male, but you want to...

02:27:08.240 Aristotle is debt donated $100.

02:27:11.560 Let boys choose whether their penises get sliced and diced.

02:27:15.340 Until you oppose MGM, I can't take your transphobic arguments seriously.

02:27:21.760 Choose whether...

02:27:22.560 Everything's phobic.

02:27:23.780 Until you oppose...

02:27:24.340 It's not...

02:27:25.540 Male...

02:27:26.040 Wait.

02:27:26.600 Until you oppose male genital...

02:27:28.200 What is MGM?

02:27:28.880 Male genital...

02:27:29.480 Male genital...

02:27:30.080 That's...

02:27:30.440 It's interesting.

02:27:31.340 Male genital mutilation?

02:27:32.120 It's actually interesting you raise that because I actually do object to circumcision.

02:27:37.920 So, I don't know.

02:27:39.780 I do oppose...

02:27:40.980 I agree.

02:27:42.280 Circumcision.

02:27:42.760 Circumcision.

02:27:44.780 I don't...

02:27:46.000 Why?

02:27:46.440 What's been transphobic about any of this conversation, though?

02:27:49.960 It's not going to be kind of an opinion anymore without everything being like a phobic.

02:27:52.320 It's a phobic-ism, but...

02:27:54.700 Nobody hates nobody.

02:27:56.860 Wait, so...

02:27:57.700 I'm scared of them.

02:27:58.680 Wait, okay.

02:27:59.220 We were on the puberty...

02:28:01.180 Oh, so I do think it's the case, like, you can't...

02:28:03.560 Once you've made the change with the puberty blockers or whatever, there's no reversal.

02:28:09.080 Like, you've hit 20, you were on that for 5, 6, 7, 8 years, however long, you're not just

02:28:16.540 going to switch back.

02:28:18.860 There might be...

02:28:19.320 It's not just a pause button.

02:28:20.160 You could also take hormones later in life.

02:28:23.680 You could take...

02:28:23.820 But do you think it would be this...

02:28:24.960 It's going to end up being the same as if you just proceeded through puberty as normal?

02:28:30.040 I'm sure it wouldn't be the same.

02:28:31.480 Well, what are your thoughts on the...

02:28:32.920 Like, people who detransition?

02:28:35.100 People are allowed to detransition.

02:28:36.880 It doesn't take away from people who are trans.

02:28:40.940 Okay.

02:28:41.640 People can change their identity later in life.

02:28:43.700 But it sounded like you're fine with the puberty blockers, if I have that.

02:28:46.500 Is that correct?

02:28:48.200 For children.

02:28:49.320 I would believe so, but I don't have that much knowledge on specifically puberty blockers.

02:28:54.560 Sure.

02:28:55.760 Question for the panel on this.

02:28:57.080 So, let's say you have kids in the future.

02:29:00.620 I know you don't want to have kids, but let's just, for the sake of this conversation, hypothetical,

02:29:04.360 here, say you have an 11-year-old daughter or son, doesn't really matter.

02:29:09.460 They come to you at 11, and they want to get a tattoo.

02:29:16.140 Would you allow them to get a tattoo?

02:29:18.580 How old are they again, Brian?

02:29:19.660 11.

02:29:20.260 Oh, no.

02:29:21.500 I wouldn't let them get a tattoo, but the same thing with gender or going on to a type of

02:29:28.040 medication or surgery.

02:29:28.940 If it's the one and first time they brought it up, I probably wouldn't let them just go

02:29:34.200 on something like that either.

02:29:35.760 It's got to be something they've felt and wanted for a really, really long time, and

02:29:39.080 it's really serious.

02:29:40.500 And take them through the checks and balances to make sure it is what they feel and it's

02:29:45.760 what they really want, and they understand the long-term consequences and effects to

02:29:49.180 the best of their knowledge, and after a couple of years.

02:29:52.940 Okay.

02:29:53.960 We'll go around the table on this.

02:29:55.920 Absolutely not.

02:29:57.800 No.

02:30:00.760 I don't know.

02:30:01.800 I think...

02:30:02.440 That's fine.

02:30:04.100 Yeah.

02:30:04.600 I don't really care.

02:30:05.660 No.

02:30:06.380 No.

02:30:07.300 No.

02:30:08.480 Yeah, definitely not.

02:30:09.920 Okay.

02:30:10.800 Last...

02:30:11.360 I don't want to linger on this for too long, because we've been here for a while.

02:30:15.060 Two things.

02:30:16.440 Okay.

02:30:18.580 Here, let me bring it to dating.

02:30:21.420 This has not been about relationships in a while.

02:30:23.620 I know.

02:30:23.920 Well, hey, this guy, he's...

02:30:25.640 It wasn't me who brought this up.

02:30:27.140 This other guy, he's really...

02:30:28.420 He's hijacking.

02:30:29.440 He's hijacking.

02:30:31.560 Okay.

02:30:31.920 It's funny.

02:30:34.220 So, would it...

02:30:36.820 In terms of date...

02:30:37.560 Okay.

02:30:37.860 In terms of dating, would you object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman?

02:30:43.200 I feel like there's a lot to that.

02:30:47.060 I feel like for the safety of the trans person, then probably, because if someone was with that

02:30:53.500 trans person, and they were together, and they found that they were trans, and they're

02:30:55.940 like, I don't like this, and then they take the violence out on that person.

02:30:58.640 I feel like it, in that case, it's probably good for the person to, ahead of time, not

02:31:03.920 interact, like, you know, for that, to not become a situation to begin with.

02:31:08.920 So, if the person is, like, violent towards trans people...

02:31:13.040 Let's say they're not.

02:31:13.980 They're not.

02:31:16.080 They just don't want to date somebody who's trans.

02:31:19.140 I feel like...

02:31:20.140 Do you object to that?

02:31:21.000 People have their preferences.

02:31:23.660 I feel like that says something about that person, but they're still allowed to have

02:31:31.320 their preferences.

02:31:31.620 What does it say, Nick?

02:31:32.580 Keep it on starting.

02:31:33.540 I mean, it kind of says that they probably don't view that person as an actual woman if

02:31:38.140 they're not willing to date them, and their preference is women.

02:31:42.400 Okay.

02:31:44.240 So, then...

02:31:45.600 Well, actually, let me get everybody's answer on this, but...

02:31:48.680 So, you would object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman?

02:31:57.440 Well, I...

02:31:58.280 Not necessarily object.

02:31:59.720 I'm just saying that if that's the view they have, then it probably says they don't see

02:32:03.380 that person as a woman.

02:32:04.700 Which means what?

02:32:06.460 That that's just how they...

02:32:08.200 ...person.

02:32:15.280 Uh...

02:32:15.840 Uh...

02:32:16.160 For a what?

02:32:16.860 Question for the table.

02:32:19.080 Is it okay to cut up a baby pro for religious reasons?

02:32:24.340 If so, is it also okay to cut up a...

02:32:27.420 Bro, what?

02:32:27.980 You asking some goofy questions, bro.

02:32:31.280 She's spending a lot of money on these questions.

02:32:32.880 Even for...

02:32:33.640 Look, even for religious reasons, I'm against circumcision.

02:32:37.880 Yes.

02:32:38.740 Because I believe in advocating for men and boys before any of that.

02:32:44.180 So, yes, I'm against it.

02:32:45.640 Um...

02:32:46.480 We're not going to linger too long on that, though.

02:32:48.280 So...

02:32:48.560 Wait.

02:32:49.420 So, okay.

02:32:50.620 It says what about the person?

02:32:54.380 I've already said what it says about the person.

02:32:56.740 It interrupted you.

02:32:57.580 I just wanted you to just be able to restate your position.

02:33:01.020 Well, it says that that person does not see that other person as a woman.

02:33:05.500 Which means what about them?

02:33:07.360 That they're...

02:33:07.800 It means exactly that.

02:33:08.920 Do you object to that?

02:33:13.200 I say that it's probably not the greatest thing that they don't see that person as a woman, but...

02:33:19.140 What if they don't see them as a female?

02:33:21.260 Do you object to that?

02:33:25.600 Well, females technically...

02:33:27.300 They're sex.

02:33:27.980 Yeah.

02:33:28.200 So...

02:33:29.200 No, I don't object to that.

02:33:31.400 Okay.

02:33:32.500 Um...

02:33:32.860 So...

02:33:34.820 You were also saying how if somebody was dating somebody and then they found out, like, down the road that they were trans...

02:33:44.400 So, in the scenario that you provided, this is somebody who I assume is very much passing as a trans woman.

02:33:54.300 Do you think...

02:33:55.500 This is sort of a different topic.

02:33:57.560 Do you think that there is a duty for trans people to disclose to romantic partners that they're trans?

02:34:03.820 I don't think there's necessarily a duty because for that to be a responsibility of them can put them in danger.

02:34:11.360 I mean, they can choose to disclose that if they feel they are safe.

02:34:14.120 Well, let's talk about the safety thing.

02:34:16.040 Wouldn't it put them in more danger to omit and not disclose their sexual status with a partner who might object to being in some way misled?

02:34:28.560 I feel like I cannot speak for trans people.

02:34:31.880 I'm not trans.

02:34:32.660 I don't experience their experiences.

02:34:34.420 So, I'm trying to be the wrong person to be asking questions.

02:34:37.640 Good for you, Brian, but it was a question for the table.

02:34:44.120 He's wasting his money.

02:34:50.320 Bro, you're derailing the conversation a little bit, but...

02:34:54.120 So, if you wait, Aristotle, I'll ask it to the table, but I'm going to get through a couple things here.

02:35:00.460 So, you're going to have to wait a sec.

02:35:02.240 Go ahead.

02:35:02.700 I think I finished my answer.

02:35:07.660 I have a...

02:35:08.280 Wait, wait.

02:35:08.880 Hold on.

02:35:09.420 Before you come in, let me just get around the table on this.

02:35:12.240 So, okay.

02:35:15.700 When it comes to the safety thing, you don't object, or you do object...

02:35:24.700 Oh, no, no.

02:35:25.540 Sorry.

02:35:25.820 You do...

02:35:26.520 Oh, my God.

02:35:27.040 Sorry, guys.

02:35:27.360 I'm tongue twisted here.

02:35:28.700 You don't object to a trans person not disclosing their trans status to potential romantic partners for safety reasons.

02:35:38.940 Yeah, they don't have to.

02:35:40.840 A lot of the times, they probably will.

02:35:43.600 Do you think people should disclose their STD status to a partner?

02:35:47.140 Yeah.

02:35:49.400 Okay.

02:35:49.840 That is something that can be transferred to the other person.

02:35:54.180 You can't transfer anything from being trans to another person.

02:35:57.440 But that's...

02:35:57.840 Okay, hold on.

02:35:58.420 Be good faith, though.

02:35:59.160 That's not what I'm arguing.

02:36:00.540 But you would agree that there are certain things that you ought to disclose to a romantic partner.

02:36:06.780 Yes.

02:36:07.220 For example, do you think you should disclose if you're in another relationship with somebody?

02:36:14.180 Well, that's not something you can transmit to somebody, but like...

02:36:16.740 But that is something that affects both of their lives, like their tangible lives.

02:36:21.120 Well, let's say, for example, you're dating with the intention of marriage and having children.

02:36:26.000 And this person is...

02:36:28.220 They're male.

02:36:29.780 They cannot have children.

02:36:31.660 They can disclose they can't have children.

02:36:33.700 They can do that at some point along the relationship.

02:36:35.740 People who are infertile don't always disclose from the beginning of a date that they are infertile.

02:36:41.200 Sometimes they may.

02:36:42.220 Sometimes they may not.

02:36:43.320 It'll come up later.

02:36:43.400 Let's say I'm on a first date with somebody and I make it pretty clear to them that, you know,

02:36:48.540 I'm looking for something long-term.

02:36:50.260 I'm looking for something serious.

02:36:51.400 I'm looking for marriage.

02:36:52.220 And I'm looking for kids down the road.

02:36:54.380 And if the other person doesn't want kids or can't have kids,

02:36:57.320 then it's just a relationship that wouldn't work.

02:36:59.560 They don't have to necessarily let you know they're trans,

02:37:01.420 but they can let you know they don't want and don't want to have kids.

02:37:04.220 Okay.

02:37:04.660 Fair enough.

02:37:05.540 So...

02:37:06.420 But you seem to...

02:37:08.660 I mean, to me, it seems pretty questionable to not disclose

02:37:13.040 your gender, sex status, or whatever, up front.

02:37:22.980 Maybe it is.

02:37:23.780 Maybe it isn't.

02:37:24.500 I personally am not the one to answer these questions.

02:37:27.060 I am not trans.

02:37:28.420 I don't have that experience.

02:37:30.220 I can't speak for their community.

02:37:32.620 Okay.

02:37:33.320 But you can give your own opinion.

02:37:35.080 In my opinion, I still don't think they have to disclose that they're trans.

02:37:41.040 So you don't have to give the caveat that you're not a part of their community.

02:37:44.760 Like, I'm not going to ask everyone to give a caveat for the reason they're saying what they're saying.

02:37:49.780 Like, I'm allowing you to have an opinion,

02:37:52.780 and I don't need you to, like, give your credentials for why you have this opinion.

02:37:57.560 Like, I want to listen to you because you're you.

02:38:00.120 Like, I listen to you because you're a human being.

02:38:02.760 You don't have to give your credentials every time you say something.

02:38:07.100 Here, we're going to move on.

02:38:08.600 We're going to go around the table.

02:38:09.780 Do you object...

02:38:10.540 Would you object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman?

02:38:14.200 No.

02:38:14.400 And this could...

02:38:14.980 You could flip the genders here.

02:38:17.020 Yeah.

02:38:17.260 A woman not wanting to date a trans man.

02:38:19.780 Yeah, I'd want to know if they were trans.

02:38:23.800 Okay.

02:38:25.860 I wouldn't object.

02:38:27.880 I would not object.

02:38:29.680 I'm sorry, what was the question again?

02:38:30.980 Would you object to a man or a woman not wanting to date somebody who's trans?

02:38:36.380 Trans man and trans woman?

02:38:37.500 No.

02:38:38.360 It's their preference.

02:38:39.080 Let them do what they want.

02:38:40.920 Yeah, no, I wouldn't object.

02:38:42.960 Okay.

02:38:43.860 It sounded like you objected a little bit to that one.

02:38:48.200 I feel like it's a complex situation.

02:38:51.960 It's not really.

02:38:52.880 It's just about preference.

02:38:56.040 Okay.

02:38:56.320 And that needs to be respected.

02:38:57.100 Well, do you think men ought to be obliged to date somebody who's trans?

02:39:03.540 Well, if you don't like the person, you shouldn't have to date them.

02:39:06.980 Let's say you do like the person.

02:39:08.560 Let's say they're...

02:39:09.140 Well, if you do like the person...

02:39:10.300 A killer of cereal donated $100.

02:39:13.380 What if you're a trans Ted Bundy?

02:39:16.000 He would disclose his transition, but not the fact that he wants you next.

02:39:20.380 Lol.

02:39:20.880 Is withholding information considered lying?

02:39:23.780 What does that Bible have to say?

02:39:27.900 Wait, what does the Bible have to say?

02:39:30.180 About trans Ted Bundy?

02:39:33.380 That is a good question.

02:39:34.580 Avoid Ted Bundy at all in any scenario.

02:39:37.860 Yeah, yeah.

02:39:38.500 Murder and depraved mind.

02:39:41.980 I don't know.

02:39:42.320 Thank you.

02:39:43.100 Thank you, killer of cereal.

02:39:44.460 I'm sorry.

02:39:45.040 You were saying?

02:39:47.560 I think you were saying like, well, if you like the person, then what?

02:39:54.000 Well, if you like the person, why wouldn't you want to date them?

02:39:57.200 Like, if you like them, they're your preference.

02:40:01.540 Why wouldn't you want to date them?

02:40:03.640 Because they are not the gender...

02:40:06.420 Or they're not the sex that you're attracted to?

02:40:08.860 Like, I can put myself in this scenario.

02:40:10.600 I would personally be disgusted if I was...

02:40:15.220 Let's say, just like, crazy scenario.

02:40:18.100 I married a trans woman.

02:40:20.200 I had no idea she was trans.

02:40:21.760 She sold herself really, really well.

02:40:23.980 One, two, the whole time.

02:40:25.020 And, like, hit it super well.

02:40:28.180 And we got married.

02:40:30.000 And I eventually figured it out.

02:40:32.340 Like, I would be absolutely disgusted.

02:40:35.320 Like, that needs to be something that's said.

02:40:37.460 It's like as disgusting to me as having an STD.

02:40:40.600 Probably even more so.

02:40:42.240 Like, that needs to be disclosed.

02:40:44.360 And I would say the vast majority of guys out there and women out there would probably feel the same.

02:40:49.840 They would feel violated.

02:40:51.280 They would feel disgusted.

02:40:52.860 Like, it's a very serious personal issue.

02:40:56.120 I can't trust you.

02:40:57.560 Exactly.

02:40:58.900 Like, I understand, like, yeah, this person wants to find somebody else.

02:41:04.760 But, like, it's extremely deceptive and hurtful.

02:41:09.620 And you're not...

02:41:11.000 You're coming from the point of view, it would hurt the person who is trans.

02:41:14.640 But you also have to consider that the other person is also human.

02:41:19.160 And they want to find somebody for themselves.

02:41:21.340 And it's extremely selfish to hold that information from that other person.

02:41:25.680 And if I can just say something real quick.

02:41:27.320 I mean, why, you know, as a trans person, you know, if you're proud of being trans,

02:41:32.060 if you, you know, can affirm to yourself that you're trans,

02:41:34.700 why wouldn't you want to disclose that with somebody?

02:41:36.520 You know what I mean?

02:41:37.460 And also, in relation to, like, okay, let's say you had herpes, right?

02:41:42.540 Something like that.

02:41:43.180 Oh, sorry.

02:41:44.860 Okay, so let's say you had, like, herpes or something, right?

02:41:47.060 Why would you not tell that to somebody who you're dating and, you know,

02:41:50.640 intend having a relationship with?

02:41:52.320 Because that can also, first, you have the herpes, you can give it to them,

02:41:56.360 and then that can go down to your children.

02:41:58.120 It's a whole, you know, it has to be disclosed.

02:42:01.020 Because, you know, if that person really likes you, really, truly,

02:42:04.060 and wants to get to know you, that might be something that won't bother them.

02:42:07.220 You know what I mean?

02:42:07.980 Yes.

02:42:08.400 But, I mean, why would you even want, as a trans person,

02:42:12.000 I can't understand why you wouldn't,

02:42:13.720 why would you want to be with somebody who is transphobic in the first place

02:42:17.560 or does not want to date a trans person?

02:42:19.680 Because that's not the real you.

02:42:21.520 It's not.

02:42:22.060 To not want to date somebody who's trans.

02:42:23.940 Well, not like that, not like that.

02:42:25.400 Oh, yeah.

02:42:26.240 That's all, yeah.

02:42:27.020 That's the language they would use.

02:42:28.180 Yeah, yeah.

02:42:28.520 Probably.

02:42:29.220 Yeah.

02:42:29.460 But is that kind of your argument,

02:42:32.020 that it would be transphobic to not want to date somebody who's trans?

02:42:35.360 I don't think so.

02:42:37.940 I don't know.

02:42:39.560 Like, I really don't know.

02:42:41.360 That's a fair answer.

02:42:42.460 You don't have to know.

02:42:44.820 Okay.

02:42:46.540 Well, okay.

02:42:47.260 So, let me ask a couple more clarifying questions.

02:42:50.660 So, let's say that this trans woman has a penis.

02:42:58.140 Would that be reason enough for me to not want to date them?

02:43:02.040 I don't want to date whether they're, however they identify,

02:43:07.440 they're a woman, trans woman.

02:43:09.320 I don't want to date someone who has a penis.

02:43:11.700 Is that reason enough?

02:43:15.160 Maybe, but maybe you should put on your profile that's your preference.

02:43:18.500 I need to, wait, I need to put on my profile that I don't want to date someone who has a penis?

02:43:22.740 Yeah, you could put in your own preference that you don't want to date trans people,

02:43:28.520 and that'll make the other person's decision for them, because then they won't pursue you.

02:43:32.100 So, wait, I need to change my behavior.

02:43:35.320 Like, can't I just say I'm straight?

02:43:37.340 Wouldn't that be sufficient?

02:43:38.480 I mean, if you're straight and excludes trans people,

02:43:46.040 then it's not just straight for everyone who's a woman.

02:43:49.980 But it very much hinges on people actually seeing the trans person as what they identify as.

02:43:56.340 If you don't see them as a woman, then, like, yeah, technically you're straight,

02:44:00.000 but that's not straight by everyone's definition.

02:44:01.440 So, it kind of will leave room for ambiguity, because other people will think they're an option.

02:44:08.260 Well, what is your definition of straight?

02:44:14.740 People of opposite gender, which is not sex.

02:44:20.060 Aristotle is dead, donated $100.

02:44:23.400 Damn, that guy is a homophobe.

02:44:25.800 Sure, trans people should disclose that they're trans,

02:44:28.580 but do you really think gay sex is worse than an STD?

02:44:32.860 Dang dude.

02:44:33.840 No one said that.

02:44:36.120 I did.

02:44:37.180 Oh, you did?

02:44:38.020 Yeah.

02:44:38.740 Do you think that gay sex is...

02:44:39.940 Let's not, no, no, no, no, we're not, let's not go there.

02:44:42.540 I don't want to derail the conversation.

02:44:43.580 Yeah, let's not derail the conversation, but...

02:44:46.580 Go ahead.

02:44:51.360 I would say it's people of opposite gender who are attracted to each other.

02:44:55.520 And a cis man and a trans woman are opposite gender.

02:45:01.080 So, you could be attracted to each other and still be straight.

02:45:04.340 It is reasonable for someone else to assume just because you say you're straight

02:45:07.100 doesn't exclude trans people.

02:45:09.680 But you're saying even a trans person who has a penis.

02:45:13.380 Yeah.

02:45:14.380 So, what if...

02:45:15.600 Okay, so...

02:45:17.520 My understanding of what straight is,

02:45:20.340 straight is short-form slang for heterosexual.

02:45:24.100 Would you agree?

02:45:24.900 Yeah.

02:45:26.320 Okay, so...

02:45:28.620 Whether you're heterosexual or homosexual,

02:45:32.720 that seems to point towards sex, not gender.

02:45:36.580 So, when we say homosexual,

02:45:38.580 we mean same-sex relationship.

02:45:42.320 So, how can it possibly be heterosexual

02:45:46.260 for two males

02:45:48.020 to be romantically or sexually involved?

02:45:52.500 Well, that hinges on your definition of it being specifically sex.

02:45:56.520 That is the definition, though.

02:45:58.140 But it's not.

02:45:59.380 But, okay, homosexual.

02:46:01.760 Two males.

02:46:03.180 Heterosexual.

02:46:03.980 Male-female.

02:46:04.540 My definition of it would be by gender.

02:46:14.100 See, this actually kind of...

02:46:15.440 That's a tough one.

02:46:15.640 That's a tough one for me.

02:46:16.740 This actually kind of goes into the point that I was going to make.

02:46:19.520 And I mean this as well as possible.

02:46:23.160 But one of the hallmarks for narcissism

02:46:27.220 is that you have internal issues,

02:46:31.760 you have internal struggles that you are working through,

02:46:33.940 and you expect everybody around you

02:46:37.060 to change, to cater to those personal issues.

02:46:41.660 And that can happen in...

02:46:43.540 It doesn't necessarily mean in the realm of sex and gender.

02:46:50.460 It can also be in the realm of dating.

02:46:52.480 Like, if my girlfriend...

02:46:54.720 If I bring something up that I'm having an issue with

02:46:57.600 in the relationship,

02:46:58.620 hey, we're not communicating.

02:47:00.140 Hey, you blew up on me at this.

02:47:04.120 Like, we need to talk about it.

02:47:05.420 And if she is unwilling to change

02:47:08.580 and is expecting all of the change

02:47:10.560 to come from outside of her

02:47:12.320 to mold to how she wants the world to be,

02:47:17.280 that is textbook narcissistic behavior.

02:47:20.400 So when you ask the rest of the world

02:47:23.840 to cater to the chaos that's going on in your brain,

02:47:28.000 that is textbook narcissism.

02:47:30.140 And I'm not saying that you are evil

02:47:33.040 because you're narcissistic.

02:47:34.400 I'm just saying, those people need help.

02:47:38.340 And we need to see those people as someone...

02:47:40.460 They need help.

02:47:42.280 They need our love.

02:47:43.460 They need our care.

02:47:44.520 But we also need to give them truth

02:47:46.840 because it's not going to get better

02:47:49.400 if we just let them stew in that chaos.

02:47:53.260 And, I mean, studies show that.

02:47:55.100 They show that it doesn't get better

02:47:56.680 whenever you have reassignment surgery.

02:47:59.140 It doesn't get better if you reaffirm

02:48:01.120 their requested gender.

02:48:03.360 That stuff does not get better.

02:48:05.800 The only thing that will improve their life

02:48:09.100 is to give them truth

02:48:10.320 and us to fight for them as a human being.

02:48:13.160 That it's not going to get better

02:48:14.300 if we just allow the rest of the world

02:48:16.660 to try to mold to all of these changing definitions

02:48:19.580 and chaos.

02:48:21.020 It's just not going to help.

02:48:22.120 Basically, to solve the problem,

02:48:32.860 you always have to, you know,

02:48:33.760 go to the root of the problem.

02:48:35.020 You know what I mean?

02:48:35.440 It's not just like...

02:48:36.560 You can't just let somebody...

02:48:38.120 Sorry, you know...

02:48:39.440 Especially, you know,

02:48:40.140 with the whole gender-affirming thing,

02:48:41.340 if somebody just decides to do that...

02:48:42.960 I mean, look at TikTok now.

02:48:43.940 That stuff is so all up in your face

02:48:45.620 that, you know...

02:48:47.460 It would even have me, like, questioning,

02:48:49.460 oh, like, am I they?

02:48:50.560 Am I he?

02:48:50.980 Am I that?

02:48:51.340 That kind of stuff.

02:48:51.760 Yeah.

02:48:52.020 But then you have to look, you know,

02:48:53.520 deep down,

02:48:54.380 why am I even questioning this

02:48:55.560 in the first place?

02:48:56.120 Maybe there's, like, other issues

02:48:57.200 that I'm going through

02:48:57.840 that need to get solved.

02:48:59.500 Maybe it's, you know,

02:49:00.220 the way that I was raised.

02:49:02.780 Wait, going around on this,

02:49:04.020 I don't know if I open this up

02:49:04.900 to the panel.

02:49:05.420 So, is it...

02:49:05.900 Do you consider it straight

02:49:06.860 for a man to date a trans woman?

02:49:11.660 Is it straight?

02:49:12.880 I'm not fully opposed to that idea.

02:49:16.420 Okay.

02:49:17.260 I agree.

02:49:18.420 With what?

02:49:19.640 What she said.

02:49:20.460 Like, I'm not fully...

02:49:22.160 Because if the person...

02:49:23.420 Instead of saying you agree,

02:49:24.500 just for everybody here,

02:49:25.780 just state your actual position.

02:49:27.820 Copy.

02:49:28.360 Yeah.

02:49:28.680 So, I think if the woman presents

02:49:32.720 as a woman initially

02:49:34.060 and the person doesn't see

02:49:35.900 what they have down there,

02:49:38.760 then you're straight.

02:49:39.660 But if they find that out,

02:49:40.900 then obviously things change.

02:49:43.220 Okay.

02:49:45.020 I would, as a trans woman...

02:49:48.740 GMD underscore Jim donated $100.

02:49:52.780 Brixen, how many Amish are trans?

02:49:55.220 I mean, there might be.

02:49:56.200 It's zero.

02:49:57.160 There could be some Amish trans.

02:49:58.280 This super chatter is full of cap.

02:50:00.760 The 42% attempted self-deletion rate

02:50:03.720 does not change after surgery.

02:50:06.240 Williams Institute's study is one source.

02:50:09.320 Yeah.

02:50:10.380 Those are the numbers that I've read.

02:50:11.840 A lot of studies out there.

02:50:13.000 You were saying?

02:50:14.240 Thank you, GMD.

02:50:15.180 Appreciate it.

02:50:15.480 Yeah, I would consider it straight.

02:50:17.760 Straight?

02:50:18.220 Yeah.

02:50:18.720 I would not.

02:50:20.240 What was the question?

02:50:22.000 Skip.

02:50:22.560 Well, it's not straight.

02:50:24.380 Yeah, it's not straight.

02:50:25.420 Okay.

02:50:25.480 I don't know.

02:50:32.640 Like, maybe I'm just thinking of this too simplistically,

02:50:35.580 but, like, it occurs to me.

02:50:37.940 I don't know.

02:50:38.280 If I saw a dude sucking the dick,

02:50:42.120 I might think.

02:50:45.300 Like, I don't know if you can be straight.

02:50:47.020 I'm sorry.

02:50:48.300 But that's making the assumption

02:50:49.620 that they're sucking the dick.

02:50:51.100 Let's say there's a dick, though.

02:50:52.260 Yeah, but it doesn't mean anything's being done with their dick.

02:50:55.320 Wait, what?

02:50:55.880 It doesn't mean anything's being done with their dick.

02:50:57.260 Let's say there is, though.

02:50:59.240 Then there is.

02:50:59.860 I don't know.

02:51:00.480 It's not my life.

02:51:01.420 But, okay, but let's say it's a trans woman.

02:51:05.360 Looks like, what's the, Megan Fox?

02:51:08.980 Looks like Megan Fox, right?

02:51:10.620 Oh, yeah.

02:51:11.000 But has a penis.

02:51:12.880 A girthy one.

02:51:14.140 Okay.

02:51:14.720 I don't know why I had to throw that in there.

02:51:17.360 And a dude is just going at it.

02:51:20.500 But, you know, S-ing the D.

02:51:27.320 I would still consider them straight.

02:51:29.360 It's true.

02:51:30.520 Oh, my God.

02:51:32.400 I don't know.

02:51:33.340 This is why definitions are important.

02:51:36.320 Yeah, I don't think that this.

02:51:37.440 We need, like, that's why as society,

02:51:40.920 we have to have, definitions need to have meaning.

02:51:43.860 Because if they don't have meaning,

02:51:45.560 all of this can, like, nothing makes sense.

02:51:47.680 Nothing means anything.

02:51:49.920 Anything goes.

02:51:51.660 And, like, usually the people that push these positions,

02:51:57.500 like, that is what they want.

02:51:59.680 It's like, you can't have an objecting opinion

02:52:02.720 because your objecting opinion means nothing.

02:52:05.100 Because what you say means nothing.

02:52:06.680 Because all those words mean nothing.

02:52:09.100 So, we have to have opinions.

02:52:11.500 We have to have definitions for words.

02:52:13.680 Words have meaning.

02:52:14.440 And all of that is important.

02:52:18.200 Based?

02:52:20.080 So, straight.

02:52:21.580 You see a male.

02:52:23.700 A man.

02:52:25.680 S-ing the D.

02:52:27.220 S-ing the D.

02:52:29.700 Straight?

02:52:31.620 If that's a woman, yeah.

02:52:33.880 Trans woman.

02:52:34.380 So, a woman can have a penis.

02:52:45.920 Huh.

02:52:46.440 Okay.

02:52:47.740 Good talk.

02:52:52.700 Why are you looking at me that way?

02:52:54.420 This is new to me.

02:52:57.040 You know what I mean?

02:52:57.820 Awkward.

02:53:03.080 I mean, if, like, how we were talking about earlier,

02:53:07.160 like, the answer that I gave, like, you know,

02:53:10.260 it's not always, like, gay for a straight man

02:53:12.420 to be with a trans woman.

02:53:13.480 Because I can, like, try to put myself in...

02:53:16.660 Erroneous!

02:53:18.400 Erroneous!

02:53:18.880 Wait!

02:53:20.460 Bro, you've jumped in, like, every single screen sound.

02:53:23.140 Bro, because I'm, like, not even...

02:53:24.060 I don't even see you pressing the buttons whenever...

02:53:25.580 Okay, what I mean is, so when I look at, like,

02:53:28.920 examples of people who are, you know,

02:53:31.680 Megan Fox face, but they actually have had

02:53:33.740 the surgery already, you know, they're getting...

02:53:36.040 They date somebody have...

02:53:37.960 Or, you know, first date with somebody.

02:53:39.440 This person, you know, they're getting along, right?

02:53:41.900 At the end of the day, you tell them, like,

02:53:43.400 oh, you know, I'm trans, by the way.

02:53:45.620 And I get it if it's, like, really confusing for the guy

02:53:47.840 because he's just, like, damn, like, you know,

02:53:50.300 you look so much...

02:53:51.160 That's a bamboozle.

02:53:52.100 Yeah, I guess you could say that,

02:53:53.600 but I can understand, like, why from the guy would be...

02:53:55.680 It would kind of, you know, F him up a little bit in the head

02:53:57.420 because it's just, like, damn, okay, you have a vagina.

02:53:59.880 You have a great personality.

02:54:01.280 You look...

02:54:02.240 Like, I wouldn't...

02:54:03.440 But it has a penis.

02:54:04.560 No, no, no, but already has had the transition.

02:54:06.820 That's not a vagina.

02:54:08.540 Yeah, but I'm just saying, I can understand...

02:54:09.760 That's something new.

02:54:10.620 I can understand why...

02:54:11.740 I don't think it's a vagina.

02:54:12.560 ...a guy would be confused over that

02:54:13.580 and be, like, dang, like, am I straight for being...

02:54:16.300 Or, like, am I gay for being attractive?

02:54:17.820 I can understand why a guy is, like...

02:54:19.180 Aristotle is debt donated $100.

02:54:22.420 Christian is also a personal issue.

02:54:25.140 I don't want to have to cater to your delusion.

02:54:28.160 Numerous studies have shown that trans people benefit from affirming procedures.

02:54:33.540 Also, Brian, I am being patient.

02:54:36.820 It's shown that...

02:54:38.040 I couldn't give you a source, but it's also shown that people who have trans procedures

02:54:41.960 don't never get better, just like the one who gave you the other source of...

02:54:44.860 I'll do him a solid.

02:54:46.000 He wanted to ask the panel...

02:54:47.180 By the way, we can only do one question per super or per message.

02:54:51.360 So going around the table, is it okay for...

02:54:55.160 Is circumcision okay for religious reasons?

02:54:58.860 I feel like circumcision is okay for religious reasons, but the person being circumcised should

02:55:04.840 be old enough to make that decision themselves.

02:55:07.800 Well, so the question is more so, like, for...

02:55:11.120 Obviously, if you're 18 and you want to get a circumcision, you're able to consent.

02:55:15.780 That's fine.

02:55:16.660 But he's talking specifically, like, circumcision when the newborn, basically.

02:55:21.480 Is that okay, even for religious reasons?

02:55:25.020 I feel like newborns shouldn't be circumcised.

02:55:27.580 Okay.

02:55:27.820 Um, I'm definitely leaning more towards no, but I can...

02:55:32.940 I'm a little bit in between.

02:55:35.520 I think it's okay for religious reasons.

02:55:38.860 I do, too.

02:55:40.060 I think it's okay.

02:55:41.020 I don't.

02:55:41.980 It's okay for religious reasons.

02:55:44.360 Uh, I...

02:55:45.200 I don't know if I have a firm position on this, actually.

02:55:49.220 Um, because I'm a Christian.

02:55:52.640 Um, in the Old Testament, it was ordained by...

02:55:57.800 It was commanded by God as, like, a...

02:55:59.300 It was a designating attribute for his people.

02:56:02.760 And it was commanded by God to be circumcised.

02:56:05.380 So, if I were living in the Old Testament, yes, for religious reasons, 100%.

02:56:10.460 But now that, uh, the fulfillment of Christ has come, and we have the circumcision of the heart, which is detailed in the New Testament, that is the identifying mark of a Christian, of a child of God, is a circumcision of the heart.

02:56:24.180 Which is the Holy Spirit indwelling you, and changing you, and giving you new life.

02:56:29.220 So, now, like, as a Christian, uh, I could go either way.

02:56:34.800 I guess it's more parental preference, but, like, I don't know if I have a hard opinion.

02:56:40.400 I'm against it, even if it's for religious reasons.

02:56:43.620 Um, but, uh, yeah.

02:56:47.080 I'm against it pretty much in all circumstances, unless it's genuinely medically indicated, but at which point they can make the decision when they are of age at 18.

02:56:57.640 Uh, let me read a couple chats here.

02:56:59.480 We have Ian Gordon.

02:57:01.820 I'm delayed 40 minutes, but I had to chime in while the spaghetti straps in black was discussing sex and gender as she's clueless.

02:57:10.820 The DSM-5 still qualifies gender dysphoria as a mental illness, which is the most recent literature on it.

02:57:16.680 I don't know if you have a response to that, or...

02:57:19.640 Well, gender dysphoria is when you feel like your body does not match your gender, and you can cure gender dysphoria.

02:57:32.100 Some people have cured their gender dysphoria by changing their physical body to match their gender.

02:57:40.160 So, I don't exactly know what question they're asking me.

02:57:45.500 Okay.

02:57:46.040 We have Danger Close here.

02:57:47.240 Thank you for the Canadian 100.

02:57:49.240 Merci beaucoup.

02:57:50.000 This is what Marxists do.

02:57:51.320 They attack language and establish definitions in order to subvert and change society.

02:57:56.720 Who here, show of hands, is a Marxist?

02:58:01.240 I, uh, that's exactly what...

02:58:02.320 I wasn't raising my hand.

02:58:03.120 I was just, like, trying to, you know, show...

02:58:04.820 That's what happened in my country with chalice.

02:58:06.380 I mean, you're from Venezuela.

02:58:08.020 And that's exactly what happened in my country.

02:58:09.480 You're from the Soviet Union?

02:58:10.400 No, my parents are, but that's exactly what happened.

02:58:12.980 That's exactly what happened in my country.

02:58:14.820 Do you guys want to talk about that?

02:58:16.000 Oh, I haven't.

02:58:16.480 Venezuela?

02:58:17.080 What's going on in Venezuela?

02:58:18.280 What's going on there?

02:58:18.880 It was...

02:58:19.320 What's going on?

02:58:21.000 Well, in 1998...

02:58:21.320 Brief.

02:58:21.540 I'm just kidding.

02:58:23.220 Well, you know, after Chavez died and Maduro got on power, the country went through an inflation

02:58:28.960 inflation of a million percent, which is the higher inflation since the depression here

02:58:36.360 in the United States in 1928.

02:58:37.540 That's fucked up.

02:58:38.320 Yes.

02:58:39.080 And then we have the biggest immigration rate from the century.

02:58:43.720 So Venezuela has a population around 33 million people, and almost a million has left in the past two years.

02:58:52.500 Racism as a political position has caused the deaths of hundreds of millions of people throughout history and is egregious in all forms.

02:59:02.300 It needs to be killed wherever it is, where is its ugly?

02:59:05.440 Oh, hold on.

02:59:06.480 Looper donated $100.

02:59:09.160 Why is it always the first girl to the right that's stuck in Dululiland?

02:59:14.000 That's from Looper.

02:59:16.220 Do you want to respond to Looper?

02:59:17.860 He says, you're stuck in Dululiland.

02:59:20.540 Is that an actual place?

02:59:22.480 I saw the Barbie movie the other day.

02:59:24.900 I feel like that's probably Dululiland.

02:59:27.000 Is that Dululiland?

02:59:27.740 I feel like that could be it.

02:59:29.140 I regret watching it.

02:59:30.940 Who hears saying the Barbie movie?

02:59:32.400 It was...

02:59:32.980 It was the worst movie I've ever seen.

02:59:33.700 Sadly.

02:59:35.240 I managed to avoid it when it came out months ago, but then two weeks ago or a week ago, I watched that shit.

02:59:42.560 I felt a connection to the Ken experience.

02:59:46.000 Like, I feel a connection to the Helldivers experience in the new popular video game, Helldivers.

02:59:52.460 Oh, okay.

02:59:53.000 There you go.

02:59:53.540 Oh, yeah.

02:59:55.340 All right.

02:59:56.140 Daniel Martin, this is why our society is crumbling, because we're catering to a mental disorder that occurs in less than 5%, isn't it 1% of the population,

03:00:04.240 and any opposition is met with a phobic label.

03:00:06.940 At the same time, masculinity is being stripped from society and labeled toxic.

03:00:11.420 Masculinity is such a beautiful thing.

03:00:15.960 100%.

03:00:16.480 Same with femininity.

03:00:17.980 I don't...

03:00:18.440 Well, actually, this...

03:00:20.220 I would actually have to kind of push back on that 5% of the population.

03:00:23.980 I don't know exactly what you're referencing right there, but...

03:00:28.320 I think it's a trend.

03:00:29.740 Yeah.

03:00:30.080 Well, so, like, gender dysphoria, being transgender, I think, actually, it was, like, somewhere

03:00:37.340 in the 1950s or 60s, there was, like, a statistic, it was, like, 2% of people experienced gender

03:00:43.780 dysphoria or were trans.

03:00:45.760 I can't remember exactly which one it was.

03:00:47.920 But now it has gone to, I think it's, like, 20, 25% of the population, like, suggests that

03:00:55.980 they have some kind of gender dysphoria.

03:00:58.040 Really?

03:00:58.300 So, which leads us to believe that it's not genetic, it's not an actual physical trait,

03:01:04.880 it's a mental disorder.

03:01:07.800 So, I mean, as mental illnesses has skyrocketed over the last 50 years, like, you got to consider

03:01:15.000 maybe that correlation should maybe change our mind on how we think about gender dysphoria

03:01:21.800 or people who suffer with not knowing who they are, man or woman, or anything in between.

03:01:29.180 Last question on that, then we're going to totally get back to dating Aristotle, hijacking

03:01:35.620 the show here.

03:01:37.440 Okay.

03:01:40.780 Sports?

03:01:44.800 Yes.

03:01:46.020 Should, okay, when it comes to sports and the trans thing, I'm just curious about this.

03:01:49.720 What's your stance there?

03:01:50.720 Where do you think, should they be able to compete in women's sports, trans women?

03:01:58.800 I have no stance about sports.

03:02:00.740 I don't care about sports.

03:02:01.900 You don't care about sports?

03:02:05.280 You don't even know opinion on it?

03:02:08.100 Well, okay, you don't care about it, so do you, you're fine with it, then?

03:02:15.660 You're fine with trans women competing in women's sports?

03:02:19.080 Okay.

03:02:20.720 Do you think that's fair?

03:02:23.440 I don't really care about sports.

03:02:26.080 I don't...

03:02:26.700 You don't care?

03:02:27.340 Well, you don't care about women in those sports?

03:02:33.620 I really don't know anything about sports.

03:02:36.900 I don't care.

03:02:38.940 Okay, well, are sporting events, are they typically, you know, is there some degree of physicality

03:02:46.340 involved with them?

03:02:47.080 I'm sure you'd agree there.

03:02:48.680 Yeah.

03:02:49.340 Okay.

03:02:51.500 Speed, strength, coordination.

03:02:57.160 Yeah.

03:02:57.560 Going around the table on this, I guess, do you think people who are trans women, should

03:03:08.420 they be able to compete in women's sports?

03:03:10.040 No, I think that they should probably most likely have their own, you know, their own

03:03:14.800 mission.

03:03:15.340 Yes.

03:03:15.640 What about you?

03:03:16.040 No, because I'm a black belt in Taekwondo, and black belts that are my rank, that are

03:03:21.280 men, are absolutely stronger than me.

03:03:24.100 Okay.

03:03:24.560 Fair.

03:03:26.040 Yeah.

03:03:26.600 I don't think they should compete together.

03:03:28.360 It's just like, I can understand, like, you know, trying to accept someone, how they

03:03:33.900 identify, but I just think it's a system that would be really abused, so.

03:03:38.600 No, I feel like it's giving men another platform to be pushed forward in, like, a women's space,

03:03:44.760 and, like, at the same time, I've played sports my whole life.

03:03:46.960 I still play sports at UCSB.

03:03:48.880 What do you play?

03:03:50.300 I play lacrosse.

03:03:51.200 Lacrosse.

03:03:51.780 Okay.

03:03:52.100 Is there a men's lacrosse team?

03:03:53.680 There is, but I'd be terrified to play against guys.

03:03:57.120 Fair.

03:03:57.940 I agree.

03:03:58.960 I think we women have fought so hard for our space in sports, and now it's been taken

03:04:03.820 away for someone who is, they should have their own division.

03:04:07.780 Okay.

03:04:07.940 Your thoughts?

03:04:08.860 Men and women are not equal.

03:04:09.960 We should be separate.

03:04:10.880 Yes.

03:04:11.580 I agree.

03:04:12.440 Yeah.

03:04:13.120 Yeah.

03:04:13.580 It's, yeah.

03:04:14.980 They, yeah, I don't think they should be participating in women's sports.

03:04:21.140 It's unfair to the women.

03:04:22.980 They want to pursue opportunities in sport, and they can be taken away by these guys.

03:04:30.580 Any pushback there?

03:04:32.580 I don't care about sports.

03:04:34.160 You don't care?

03:04:35.020 Right.

03:04:35.900 Well, what about the women in those sports?

03:04:38.220 The females, I guess we should say.

03:04:39.700 I feel like, I don't know, it's up to them to decide how it's done.

03:04:42.800 Well, let me ask you a question.

03:04:44.040 So, let's think of this along the lines of sex.

03:04:49.240 So, male, female.

03:04:49.920 Let's say that there was a significant, substantial amount of trans women participating in sports to the point that females were no longer being able to win.

03:05:04.700 Would you have a position there?

03:05:09.080 I mean, I guess just that something should be done, but I really don't care about sports.

03:05:14.340 Let me ask you a question.

03:05:15.480 Let's say we just got rid of women's sports entirely, and then there was just the men's sporting events.

03:05:21.480 Would you object to that?

03:05:23.800 Yeah.

03:05:24.200 Why?

03:05:25.660 I guess because then that's excluding people.

03:05:28.140 Well, actually, let me rephrase this question.

03:05:30.520 Most men's sports are actually not exclusionary.

03:05:34.620 Women can participate and compete against the men.

03:05:38.460 Like, most of the men's sports are actually open.

03:05:43.220 If you're a woman and you think you can compete against men, you can.

03:05:47.860 But there's just a biological reality.

03:05:51.420 There's physical differences between men and women.

03:05:55.600 And the reality is men are typically stronger than women.

03:06:00.040 They're faster than women.

03:06:01.920 They're bigger.

03:06:02.720 Or, I mean, I don't know if there's disagreement there.

03:06:08.680 Would you tend to agree?

03:06:09.660 I don't disagree that there's physical differences.

03:06:11.860 Would you agree that men are stronger than women physically?

03:06:15.340 Sometimes.

03:06:16.520 Sometimes.

03:06:17.200 What about most of the time?

03:06:18.620 Mostly of the time.

03:06:19.760 Hold on.

03:06:20.140 Let her answer.

03:06:21.200 Sure.

03:06:21.880 What do you mean, sure?

03:06:22.920 Don't just say what you think I want to hear.

03:06:24.980 What's your actual position?

03:06:27.660 Yeah.

03:06:28.620 More men are probably stronger than women, but it can go the opposite sometimes.

03:06:33.240 More men are probably, well, no.

03:06:35.160 It can never go that way sometimes.

03:06:37.580 There's just the biological reality that men are physically stronger than women.

03:06:41.720 There are some women who are stronger than men.

03:06:43.560 Okay, yes.

03:06:44.560 That's not what I'm arguing.

03:06:45.620 Absolutely, there are women who are stronger than men.

03:06:48.600 But the vast majority of men are stronger than women.

03:06:53.540 Sure.

03:06:55.540 Let's just say the top athletes.

03:06:57.260 Let's just compare like for like.

03:06:59.340 So the top 1,000 male athletes and the top 1,000 female athletes.

03:07:03.400 Let's do a given sport.

03:07:04.740 Let's say the sprint, the 100 meter, 100 yard sprint.

03:07:10.440 So the top 100 male athletes are faster than all the top, did I say 100 or 1,000?

03:07:21.200 100.

03:07:21.660 The top 100 female athletes.

03:07:24.320 Yeah, I think so.

03:07:25.500 You think so?

03:07:26.700 I don't know what their records are.

03:07:29.460 Okay.

03:07:30.340 You could pull it up and see.

03:07:32.500 I don't know.

03:07:33.880 Right.

03:07:34.200 Well, let's assume that's the case, right?

03:07:39.020 Would you agree then that generally speaking men are stronger than women?

03:07:43.260 Yeah.

03:07:44.660 Oh, okay.

03:07:45.460 Cool.

03:07:46.040 I never didn't say that.

03:07:48.500 What, you said some of the time and then there's these exceptions, but, you know.

03:07:56.860 Any change on the sport thing?

03:07:58.800 No, I still don't care about sports.

03:08:00.400 I still don't care about sports.

03:08:05.560 Wait, tilt the mic down just a bit.

03:08:08.560 Wait, like, no.

03:08:09.320 No, just, there you go.

03:08:11.600 Yeah.

03:08:12.980 Okay.

03:08:13.960 Good talk, guys.

03:08:15.420 That was a doozy.

03:08:17.280 Thank you, Aristotle, for bringing us there.

03:08:19.400 Much appreciated.

03:08:20.900 We're going to switch gears here a little bit.

03:08:24.580 Stifler has a question.

03:08:25.840 Ask everyone.

03:08:26.680 You're going to love this one, too.

03:08:28.260 Ask everyone.

03:08:29.300 Stifler here.

03:08:29.860 Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten, your own assessment of your

03:08:36.020 own physical appearance, so your looks on a scale of one to ten, starting with you.

03:08:39.480 Go ahead.

03:08:40.720 I don't really know.

03:08:42.320 Into the mic, if you can.

03:08:44.020 I don't know, like, seven.

03:08:46.580 Okay.

03:08:47.920 I would say, like, an eight and a half, just because I'm, like, definitely not in my full

03:08:51.940 form yet.

03:08:52.620 Like, my final form.

03:08:53.540 You're, like, Frieza?

03:08:54.540 Yeah.

03:08:55.260 You know?

03:08:55.720 You're going to go Super Saiyan?

03:08:56.760 You have to let me cook, you know?

03:08:58.760 Super Saiyan.

03:08:59.440 Okay.

03:09:00.360 Yeah, yeah.

03:09:01.100 What about you?

03:09:01.820 Four.

03:09:02.840 Four?

03:09:03.300 Okay.

03:09:04.140 Like, a seven and a half or eight.

03:09:06.220 Like, a seven.

03:09:07.600 A nine.

03:09:08.600 I'm going five.

03:09:10.220 An eight.

03:09:10.940 I give myself a five.

03:09:13.460 You know, five.

03:09:14.380 Good solid five.

03:09:15.440 Yeah.

03:09:17.100 Thanks, man.

03:09:20.000 Speaking of that, we did have a chat that came in that I'm going to trigger right now from

03:09:23.360 Okie Doki.

03:09:24.900 He says, realistic rating of the women.

03:09:27.660 Oh, boy.

03:09:28.880 From left to right.

03:09:29.420 Don't shoot the messenger here, guys.

03:09:30.740 From left to right, leather jacket five, denim jacket six, black shirt four, Christmas sweater

03:09:36.460 tomboy 4.5, fluffy jacket four, ginger hair seven.

03:09:42.100 Oh, he's got a thing for you.

03:09:44.360 Okay.

03:09:44.880 Black crop top four.

03:09:46.280 This is generous, though.

03:09:47.660 God damn.

03:09:51.180 Damn.

03:09:52.000 I think, you know, this may be a little.

03:09:53.240 I also think that.

03:09:54.040 I agree with my rating.

03:09:55.620 I think the way that we look is, like, the least interesting thing about all of us.

03:09:59.920 Also, I'm not going to lie.

03:10:00.740 Like, the lighting.

03:10:02.060 The lighting.

03:10:03.360 This is, like, a shop store overhead, white fluorescent lighting.

03:10:07.220 Also, look at me, though.

03:10:08.100 Like, I do, like, beefies and everything.

03:10:09.620 Don't worry.

03:10:10.200 Don't worry about that.

03:10:11.540 Okay.

03:10:12.020 So, that was the rating there.

03:10:14.920 Yeah.

03:10:15.380 Okay.

03:10:16.620 We have Triceraclops.

03:10:19.160 Ask them this question.

03:10:20.240 Would you date a guy you know was willing to or has performed oral sex?

03:10:24.280 God damn.

03:10:24.740 We're bringing it back.

03:10:28.260 Would you date a guy you know was willing to or has performed S-ing the D?

03:10:36.480 Sure.

03:10:38.480 I don't think so.

03:10:39.580 I don't know.

03:10:40.140 No.

03:10:40.960 Yeah.

03:10:41.780 No.

03:10:42.940 No.

03:10:44.820 Oh, sorry.

03:10:45.400 Sorry.

03:10:45.500 I think that's for the ladies.

03:10:47.620 That's for the ladies.

03:10:49.460 All right.

03:10:50.780 Wait.

03:10:51.120 So, okay.

03:10:51.680 Bringing it back to where this all stemmed from.

03:10:53.940 We're going around the table.

03:10:54.900 What percentage of men do you find physically attractive?

03:10:59.060 Do you want to just restate your answer to that?

03:11:02.140 Are you able to scoot into the table just a little bit?

03:11:04.360 Just we're getting you out of the frame a little bit.

03:11:05.960 Go ahead.

03:11:06.200 So, I would say probably like, I don't really know.

03:11:12.660 So, it's like one in a million or something.

03:11:14.360 Oh, one in a million.

03:11:15.240 Dang, it's low.

03:11:17.300 Dudes are just not doing it for you.

03:11:21.900 Maybe it's a geographic thing.

03:11:23.480 Like, what if you moved to Alaska?

03:11:25.040 Do you like lumberjack?

03:11:26.260 I don't know about that.

03:11:29.540 Do you like, do you have a racial preference?

03:11:31.700 Like, do you like Asian guys?

03:11:32.800 Do you like black guys?

03:11:33.640 Do you like white dudes?

03:11:35.940 Latinos?

03:11:37.540 I have no preference.

03:11:38.680 No preference on the, okay.

03:11:40.540 Just trying to help, you know, maybe we would get you to Southeast Asia.

03:11:44.040 Korean men are very handsome.

03:11:46.460 Maybe you got a thing for Vietnamese men.

03:11:48.780 Don't discount the Thai.

03:11:50.720 Don't discount them, okay?

03:11:52.000 True.

03:11:53.160 Cambodians.

03:11:55.600 Laos.

03:11:56.980 Laos is so specific.

03:12:00.680 Mongolia?

03:12:03.200 I don't have a reference.

03:12:04.280 Would you date a North Korean?

03:12:05.540 I would date anybody.

03:12:07.080 I'm just trying to give you the list here.

03:12:09.120 Trying to give you the list.

03:12:12.000 So, like, you never see attractive dudes.

03:12:16.160 I mean, maybe there's...

03:12:17.640 What about Mason here?

03:12:18.800 Look at this stud.

03:12:20.160 Look, can we get a double buy really quick?

03:12:22.160 Sorry, I'm glazing.

03:12:23.460 I'm glazing.

03:12:25.300 Flock, dude.

03:12:27.280 Who said damn?

03:12:28.380 Who said you?

03:12:29.800 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

03:12:31.080 He could just, he could just wisp you away in his big, strong arms.

03:12:36.580 Just carry you away.

03:12:38.160 Like Prince Charming?

03:12:39.260 No?

03:12:40.060 Doesn't do it for you?

03:12:42.180 He could...

03:12:42.980 Okay, you're maybe that's a bit too, like, Disney for you.

03:12:45.720 He could, like, consensually, of course, like, passionately just, like, throw you up against

03:12:50.440 the wall and be like, what's up.

03:12:51.860 Okay.

03:12:52.160 You might be making him uncomfortable.

03:12:53.800 Sorry.

03:12:54.100 Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

03:13:00.360 Yeah.

03:13:02.960 Awkward.

03:13:04.420 Okay, moving on.

03:13:05.960 What percentage of guys do you find attractive?

03:13:08.940 Like...

03:13:09.380 Sorry.

03:13:09.920 30, 40?

03:13:10.900 30 to 40% of the men.

03:13:12.440 What about on dating apps?

03:13:13.460 Like, how, so, the way to answer this is, how many of the men do you swipe yes or no

03:13:18.720 on?

03:13:19.540 I usually, damn, this is hard because, like...

03:13:21.820 Wait, scoot your chair in.

03:13:22.640 It'll make it easier for you.

03:13:23.580 I'm sorry.

03:13:23.640 I'm, like, tripping.

03:13:24.460 Yeah, yeah.

03:13:25.020 There you go.

03:13:25.240 So, I don't know.

03:13:26.700 This is hard because, like, I can see, like, a guy and be like, you know, I acknowledge

03:13:29.660 that, like, you're handsome.

03:13:30.740 But that doesn't really, for me, like, that doesn't make me automatically, you know...

03:13:35.100 Well, yeah, so it's, you don't, like, there could be other factors, but just...

03:13:39.700 Like, attractive?

03:13:40.340 When I say attractive, like, physically attractive, what percentage of men do you find are good-looking,

03:13:46.240 physically attractive?

03:13:47.740 Like, 30, 40.

03:13:48.740 Okay.

03:13:49.900 When I was on dating apps, a good 50, 50, 50.

03:13:53.480 What about in person?

03:13:54.520 Did it change?

03:13:56.880 Well, like you said, it depends on, like, where you live.

03:14:00.580 Okay.

03:14:00.840 Where I live.

03:14:01.900 Where's that?

03:14:02.800 In the Bay Area.

03:14:04.020 So, there's a lot of Asian, white, Indian...

03:14:06.920 Whoa, okay.

03:14:08.200 Hold on.

03:14:08.920 Wait, wait.

03:14:09.260 In the context of that.

03:14:09.960 No, no, no, no.

03:14:10.420 That was perfect.

03:14:10.940 Bro, like, that was exiting my mouth.

03:14:13.720 That was comedy.

03:14:14.300 That was exiting my mouth.

03:14:16.020 Right when...

03:14:16.660 Someone clip that.

03:14:17.700 Hold on.

03:14:18.200 That was exiting my mouth right as she was, like, saying it.

03:14:22.360 I was thinking more like software engineers, not like a racial...

03:14:26.400 I'm a fan of Asian men.

03:14:28.920 Not, like, romantically.

03:14:30.700 Holy fuck, I'm just, like, digging myself in a grave.

03:14:33.120 Hold up, bro.

03:14:34.100 Hold up.

03:14:34.500 Oh, my God.

03:14:35.320 I just want to state, for the record, I am accepting of all races except orange people.

03:14:42.560 Okay, Tay?

03:14:43.380 I'm not down with orange people.

03:14:45.100 Okay.

03:14:45.840 So, based on, like, the Bay Area, I would say 50% the same.

03:14:51.420 Okay.

03:14:51.680 Because it's, like, when I was on dating apps, it was, it would show people in my area.

03:14:58.140 So, like, you know, 50%, 50%.

03:15:00.800 Word.

03:15:01.720 Okay.

03:15:02.080 What about you?

03:15:03.780 Okay, I'm going to go back to the dating nurses being shit.

03:15:06.840 Yeah.

03:15:07.000 Like, I think that, like, even, like, being in Santa Barbara, the options are better than,

03:15:13.160 like, my hometown.

03:15:14.580 Which is where again?

03:15:15.460 It's San Clemente, which I think...

03:15:17.440 Some surfer dudes.

03:15:18.880 No, yeah, but they're not on the dating apps.

03:15:21.260 Oh, okay.

03:15:21.680 Yeah, for the most part.

03:15:22.560 Or I recognize them, and that's, like, worse.

03:15:24.000 You got a pat allowed it.

03:15:24.540 What's the big surf spot in San Clemente?

03:15:27.060 The pier?

03:15:27.800 San Clemente Pier?

03:15:28.740 No.

03:15:29.700 There's, like, T Street.

03:15:30.680 Swamis?

03:15:30.980 But there's, like, Sano.

03:15:32.380 There's a lot of...

03:15:33.080 That's San Diego.

03:15:33.980 Yeah, there's a lot of places, but I don't...

03:15:35.760 It depends on if you, like, short for it.

03:15:37.200 So you like the surfer dudes?

03:15:38.540 I do, yeah.

03:15:39.400 That's your type?

03:15:40.380 Okay.

03:15:40.540 I'd say one of my types, yeah.

03:15:43.260 But on the dating apps, you were saying they're all...

03:15:46.140 I just...

03:15:46.160 Yeah, it's just, like, my type isn't on there, and so...

03:15:48.260 Wait, but no, hold on.

03:15:49.000 Say your previous position.

03:15:51.300 You said they were all ugly on the dating apps.

03:15:53.840 Okay, I was exaggerating, but, like, you know...

03:15:56.000 Okay, most.

03:15:56.020 Most.

03:15:56.480 Yeah, I'd say most.

03:15:57.580 Most of the guys.

03:15:58.080 I'm just gonna...

03:15:58.520 I don't know what the percent is, but, like, definitely really low.

03:16:01.980 Like, I just...

03:16:02.880 On the dating apps?

03:16:03.840 On the dating apps.

03:16:04.600 I'd say hinge, like, pretty low.

03:16:07.780 Like, especially...

03:16:08.340 It depends.

03:16:09.420 One percent?

03:16:10.080 I don't know.

03:16:11.140 Yeah, it's, like, I...

03:16:12.600 Sometimes it'll show me one good person, and, like...

03:16:16.600 And not even, like, not even saying, like, they are, like, a 10 out of 10.

03:16:20.780 Like, I am not, like, super picky.

03:16:23.160 I'm telling you that it's, like...

03:16:25.200 It's either, like, okay, I'm attracted to this person, or it's, like, really scary people

03:16:29.580 I've never seen in my life before, like, in public.

03:16:32.440 And so, I'm...

03:16:32.820 Wait, what's your age?

03:16:33.480 Do you...

03:16:33.760 I'm funny.

03:16:34.340 Do you set an age...

03:16:34.820 No, I mean, do you set an age range on there?

03:16:37.360 Like, are you seeing, like, 40, 50-year-old dudes on there?

03:16:39.960 No, no, no.

03:16:40.800 So, what is it?

03:16:41.540 Like, are you putting it to, what, 20 to 25 or something?

03:16:44.820 Yeah, something like that.

03:16:45.780 I don't know.

03:16:46.160 And there's just a bunch of, like, weirdos on there?

03:16:47.880 Like, just people that, like, I've never...

03:16:50.020 Like, I don't know if they've ever been out in society before.

03:16:52.140 You know, like, that kind of, like, just, like, hermits, like, you know, and maybe that

03:16:57.080 is a problem with my profile or something, but, you know...

03:17:00.460 You need a guy who's out, out there?

03:17:03.480 What she's saying is, like...

03:17:04.500 Like, who's homeless?

03:17:05.280 Their, like, best picture...

03:17:06.180 Lives on the street?

03:17:07.500 Their, like, best picture looks like it was, like, taken on, like, a DS.

03:17:11.140 Like, it's, like, weird pictures.

03:17:13.120 Like, it's, like, down here.

03:17:13.500 Like, a potato quality?

03:17:16.800 It's just, like, weird selfies, and I'm, like, it's scary.

03:17:19.300 I will give you that a lot of guys on the dating apps don't put a lot of effort in.

03:17:23.760 They don't take good photos.

03:17:25.680 Yeah.

03:17:26.280 I can understand that.

03:17:27.420 I get it.

03:17:27.840 But there's some grimy dudes on there.

03:17:29.500 Some grimy dudes?

03:17:30.020 Yeah.

03:17:30.340 Like, that's what they look like.

03:17:31.300 And I'm, maybe, I'm also very hygienic, so that's...

03:17:33.500 You're a hygienic woman.

03:17:34.560 Yes.

03:17:35.120 Like, that is, like, a must.

03:17:37.540 Wait.

03:17:38.380 On the hygiene topic.

03:17:39.520 Oh, God.

03:17:41.120 Wait, I'll save it.

03:17:42.100 I'm gonna save it.

03:17:43.360 What about you?

03:17:44.900 Oh, wait.

03:17:45.440 Actually, sister, sorry.

03:17:46.460 In person, what percentage of men would you say attractive?

03:17:48.940 You go to UCSB.

03:17:50.000 Yeah.

03:17:50.340 Way higher.

03:17:51.080 I think UCSB, there's a lot of attractive guys.

03:17:53.360 Yeah.

03:17:53.420 What, if you had to assign a percentage?

03:17:56.200 Maybe, like, one in five or higher.

03:17:59.520 20%?

03:18:00.100 20%?

03:18:00.720 Yeah, 25% or so.

03:18:00.860 20% of the guys are, okay.

03:18:02.560 And I think, kind of going on, that it's, I can find someone attractive, but I don't know

03:18:08.020 if I'm attracted to them.

03:18:10.360 Even just on looks.

03:18:12.600 Oh, even just on looks.

03:18:12.880 And just kind of, like, how someone carries themselves.

03:18:14.980 How they carry themselves.

03:18:15.920 You talking, like, swagger?

03:18:16.720 Confidence, like, how they dress, for sure.

03:18:22.260 Like, obviously, style is a big thing to me.

03:18:23.920 What's your style type?

03:18:25.500 Like, not Mason.

03:18:28.560 He's got a little disrespectful.

03:18:29.360 No, I'm not saying, you know, it's just not my type.

03:18:33.200 What's your, you like the skater boy?

03:18:36.060 Not, I mean, not really.

03:18:38.200 Emo?

03:18:38.780 No.

03:18:39.420 Goth?

03:18:39.900 Do I look emo?

03:18:40.740 I mean, I would say just kind of, like, someone who.

03:18:44.560 Like, artsy?

03:18:45.520 Artsy, yeah.

03:18:47.600 Like, they listen to Pink Floyd?

03:18:50.320 No.

03:18:50.880 Okay, I don't know.

03:18:53.020 Yeah, I think you just.

03:18:54.400 What about you?

03:18:55.620 I'd say in person, probably, like, 25, 30% on a dating app.

03:19:01.120 Probably, like, a lower, like, closer, like, 15, 20%.

03:19:05.000 Lower on dating apps.

03:19:05.760 Okay, what about.

03:19:06.560 I've never been in a dating app, so I can't have.

03:19:08.600 What about before you got married?

03:19:10.300 What percentage of men would you say you found physically attractive?

03:19:14.500 I would say 30%, 35.

03:19:19.340 Tay.

03:19:19.880 I'd say, like, 45, 50.

03:19:21.580 And then on dating apps, like, 20, 15.

03:19:24.720 Hold on, I'm just going to adjust this.

03:19:26.260 All right, got it.

03:19:27.240 What about you?

03:19:29.160 For the ladies.

03:19:30.320 For the ladies.

03:19:31.460 I'm actually a lot more picky for a dude.

03:19:35.600 I was just thinking about this.

03:19:37.480 I would probably say 5%.

03:19:39.560 Selective.

03:19:43.040 I'm extremely picky.

03:19:45.060 Like, I'll find attractive attributes about, like, a woman.

03:19:48.120 Like, I can appreciate, like, I think some women will have beautiful eyes,

03:19:51.500 but I'm just not attracted to them.

03:19:52.680 Like, for certain attributes, I can see, yeah, they're attractive.

03:19:55.980 But, like, for me to be attracted to a woman, there's, like, yeah.

03:20:01.600 It's, like, I was trying to think, out of a group of 20 people,

03:20:04.520 probably I could find one person that I'm attracted to.

03:20:09.980 Yeah.

03:20:10.980 I think, honestly, I find, like, if I'm just walking around,

03:20:17.480 I'd say, like, a good 50% of the women I see I think are physically attractive.

03:20:21.980 I can make differentiations, like, she might be a bit more attractive than this one or whatever.

03:20:27.740 Yeah, I mean, like, I think I'm kind of an anomaly with men.

03:20:30.740 I think men in general.

03:20:32.040 Well, bro, let's see.

03:20:33.420 Let's do a little tricep.

03:20:34.660 Can we see a bit of a...

03:20:35.980 Sorry, am I being weird?

03:20:36.920 Am I being sus here?

03:20:38.900 Fuck, bro.

03:20:39.680 I mean, you can be picky, dude.

03:20:43.360 You're allowed.

03:20:44.760 Wow.

03:20:45.120 Have you seen that video of that guy in the yellow shirt?

03:20:48.960 He's, like, you know that muscle there when you flex?

03:20:52.280 Yeah, when you flex.

03:20:54.540 We don't care.

03:20:56.120 Nobody cares about that.

03:20:57.420 Nobody cares about that.

03:20:58.480 Yeah.

03:20:58.740 I don't know.

03:20:59.460 I love that video.

03:21:00.880 All right.

03:21:01.560 So, okay, we went around the table on that.

03:21:04.100 Who said they were super picky?

03:21:05.700 Was that...

03:21:06.560 Was it you who said you were super picky?

03:21:08.240 I forgot.

03:21:08.660 Someone said they were super picky.

03:21:10.360 Was it you?

03:21:11.760 Somebody said super picky.

03:21:13.140 Was it just you who just said that?

03:21:15.120 No, no, no.

03:21:15.740 It was one of the girls.

03:21:16.900 I think it was...

03:21:17.400 Was it you?

03:21:17.820 Super picky?

03:21:18.540 Maybe on dating apps?

03:21:19.720 I don't know.

03:21:20.340 Wait, so...

03:21:20.640 I didn't say that specifically, though.

03:21:21.840 Somebody said super picky.

03:21:23.620 Chat.

03:21:24.000 Who said it?

03:21:25.100 Nick, if you can pull up the chat.

03:21:26.300 By the way, guys, take this opportunity to like the video, please, if you can.

03:21:30.000 If you don't like the video, I don't know if you guys have been watching the three

03:21:35.100 body problem, but the fucking aliens are going to come, I guess.

03:21:40.920 I don't know.

03:21:41.740 I'm going to send...

03:21:42.460 If you don't like the video, a nuke is going to explode.

03:21:48.720 Yeah, you guys got to like the video.

03:21:51.500 Also, if you guys can, please go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:21:56.780 Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.

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03:22:32.600 Oh, what?

03:22:33.620 It's okay.

03:22:34.640 Wait, what were we looking on?

03:22:37.740 You're asking who said they're super picky.

03:22:40.060 Oh, yeah, chat.

03:22:40.680 It was me, I guess.

03:22:41.600 Who said, who said, were they?

03:22:43.560 They were all saying.

03:22:44.420 Short hair.

03:22:44.700 They were saying, yeah.

03:22:45.980 It was you.

03:22:46.620 You're super picky.

03:22:47.660 So, besides, like, the looks thing, what are you looking for?

03:22:52.420 And I'll open this up to everybody.

03:22:54.020 She's super picky.

03:22:55.420 What are you looking for?

03:22:57.880 Because you said you've been single for 20 years.

03:23:02.440 So, you are.

03:23:03.640 It sounds like you're super picky.

03:23:06.580 Yeah, I was, like, scanning and listening.

03:23:08.580 You're super picky.

03:23:09.740 Yeah.

03:23:10.480 Never had a boyfriend, sounds like.

03:23:12.240 Yeah.

03:23:14.060 So, what am I looking for?

03:23:15.300 What are you looking for?

03:23:16.120 What's going to, like, make that finally happen?

03:23:18.820 Personality-wise, too, or just looks?

03:23:21.460 It could be looks.

03:23:22.760 It could be personality.

03:23:23.880 It could be ambition, achievement, whatever it is.

03:23:26.920 I think someone pretty similar to me.

03:23:28.280 I know everyone thinks I'm a tomboy in the comments, but I used to have long hair.

03:23:33.420 It's actually just this year that I cut it pretty short.

03:23:36.300 I think I am very feminine, actually.

03:23:38.840 I just was, I literally drove up here from my house today and was wearing a sweater and

03:23:44.080 just randomly did this.

03:23:45.060 So, I wasn't dressed for the podcast or for the show at all.

03:23:48.460 Yes, I will say.

03:23:49.600 So, I will say that to defend myself.

03:23:51.180 Now, going into my type, I would say personality-wise, I think I like someone that is confident in

03:23:58.400 themselves, like how I am, and is not afraid to express themselves.

03:24:03.120 I like artsy guys because I think that they are confident in that way, and I like how they

03:24:10.180 have cool hobbies and are interested in stuff that I am.

03:24:15.080 I don't think that I'm against other types of guys either, like more sporty guys or, I

03:24:23.560 don't know, other types of guys.

03:24:24.860 I think that is just, like, what I've kind of been more drawn to at UCSB.

03:24:28.400 But UCSB does have a lot of, like...

03:24:30.400 Frat boys?

03:24:30.880 They do, but...

03:24:31.900 Are you down with the frat boys?

03:24:33.760 I had that...

03:24:34.860 Are you in a sorority?

03:24:35.120 Are you in a sorority?

03:24:36.120 Sorority?

03:24:36.320 No.

03:24:36.940 I had that phase, and...

03:24:39.500 You had a frat boy phase.

03:24:40.780 Kind of, yeah.

03:24:41.460 Freshman year.

03:24:42.360 A lot of people do, and...

03:24:43.620 Siget?

03:24:44.780 No.

03:24:45.700 Oh, she knows something.

03:24:47.340 She knows something.

03:24:49.140 So, I did have that phase, and I think...

03:24:51.600 Beta?

03:24:52.040 Right.

03:24:53.020 Huh?

03:24:53.240 Is it beta?

03:24:53.960 ZBT?

03:24:55.060 No.

03:24:55.440 Is beta still around?

03:24:56.420 I don't know.

03:24:56.860 Oh.

03:24:57.520 They're gone?

03:24:58.540 They're gone?

03:24:59.820 Sorry.

03:25:00.420 It's VT?

03:25:01.020 No.

03:25:02.220 Yeah, no.

03:25:02.920 I'm not going to disclose that.

03:25:04.540 In the UCSB fraternity?

03:25:06.840 I'm not going to disclose that.

03:25:07.660 Wait, ATO's gone too?

03:25:08.880 No, ATO's here.

03:25:09.800 They're here.

03:25:11.180 Yo, this is for the fucking boomers.

03:25:14.360 There used to be a pike at UCSB, and they got into mad fucking trouble here, bro.

03:25:20.540 Holy shit.

03:25:21.640 That's back in the day, though.

03:25:22.840 I'm a local.

03:25:23.760 I grew up in Santa Barbara, so good talk.

03:25:27.100 Anyways, you really liked frat guys?

03:25:29.880 I didn't say I really liked them.

03:25:31.520 I just had to phase, like, freshman year.

03:25:33.360 I don't know.

03:25:33.660 It's just, like, I went to a lot of frat parties, and those were the guys that I saw.

03:25:38.260 I'd say now I kind of have found more, like, my niche, and they are usually more artsy,

03:25:44.660 and probably, you guys would say, more feminine, but...

03:25:49.080 Timothee Chalamet?

03:25:50.080 But, I...

03:25:51.440 No, honestly.

03:25:53.240 No?

03:25:53.720 No.

03:25:54.380 Okay.

03:25:54.700 I think it's kind of just...

03:25:56.200 Do you have a celebrity crush that we can look up to see who's, like, at least looks-wise

03:26:00.140 kind of your type?

03:26:00.820 Oh.

03:26:01.500 Okay, I'll have to think on that one.

03:26:02.740 I'll have to get back to you.

03:26:03.400 Think about it?

03:26:03.580 Okay.

03:26:03.720 Yeah, I can't think off the top of my head.

03:26:05.520 Okay.

03:26:05.780 I kind of have celebrity crushes from, like, shows I've watched, but I don't think they

03:26:08.880 really would help you with my type.

03:26:11.620 Okay.

03:26:12.160 Yeah.

03:26:12.660 I think it's kind of specific.

03:26:14.760 Like, Joey from Friends?

03:26:18.020 Oh, no.

03:26:19.160 Wait, Joey, we know.

03:26:20.000 Dwight from The Office.

03:26:21.320 I fucking...

03:26:22.760 Bro, you're so down for Dwight.

03:26:25.280 Admit it.

03:26:26.600 Dwight.

03:26:27.120 Dwight.

03:26:27.220 As in the one with glasses that...

03:26:28.900 Yeah.

03:26:30.340 Bears beats Battlestar Glass.

03:26:32.200 No, I...

03:26:33.260 That's definitely your type.

03:26:35.440 Anyways, moving on.

03:26:38.320 Okay.

03:26:39.120 And then ambitions.

03:26:40.080 I'm very ambitious, and that is honestly probably why I haven't dated, because I've always

03:26:45.040 been really focused on, like, school and just, like, getting my career going, and so

03:26:51.180 I've never wanted to, like, spend my time with or, like, share it with someone, and I

03:26:58.140 think a relationship is a very big commitment.

03:27:00.460 That's why I said I've had a lot more casual stuff, and was there anything else that you

03:27:06.760 asked about?

03:27:07.800 No, just types.

03:27:08.460 Okay.

03:27:09.340 So, okay.

03:27:10.760 Let's open it up to the panel.

03:27:12.420 Going around the table, what is your type?

03:27:16.100 It can be looks.

03:27:17.820 It can be personality.

03:27:21.820 Should I start first, just to give a...

03:27:24.200 All right, here.

03:27:24.860 You ready for the fucking list?

03:27:25.820 Let me pull up the list.

03:27:26.640 Oh, boy.

03:27:27.080 Oh, boy.

03:27:27.580 Here we go.

03:27:28.100 Okay.

03:27:28.320 Yeah, this will be...

03:27:30.500 This will help you guys prompt this.

03:27:31.840 Okay, looks.

03:27:33.140 Any race is fine, but slight preference.

03:27:37.060 Asian.

03:27:37.920 For white women or Asian women.

03:27:39.700 I know.

03:27:40.080 But look, I'll date a black woman.

03:27:41.340 I'll date a Latina woman.

03:27:42.840 Slight preference, though.

03:27:44.940 Let's see.

03:27:47.620 Prefer shorter women.

03:27:49.560 You know?

03:27:50.260 Don't...

03:27:50.560 Look, I'll date a six-foot-five woman.

03:27:53.340 And be...

03:27:54.100 That's fine with me.

03:27:55.920 But slight preference in terms of what, like, I find the most attractive.

03:27:59.920 Short.

03:28:00.640 Like, 4'11 is good.

03:28:02.320 4'10.

03:28:03.100 4'9.

03:28:04.260 Sign me up.

03:28:06.920 It's always funny telling, like, a girl who's 5'2 that they're too tall for me.

03:28:11.280 But I'll date a tall, you know, six, seven foot, whatever.

03:28:14.540 We'll have warrior children.

03:28:16.740 Okay.

03:28:16.880 Oh, natural...

03:28:20.040 I'm a natural body supremacist, okay?

03:28:22.320 So what does this mean?

03:28:23.900 Obviously, hygiene and grooming is important.

03:28:26.060 But very strong preference for no plastic surgery.

03:28:29.220 So, no fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo.

03:28:33.200 Definitely no labiaplasty.

03:28:36.320 Very much against that.

03:28:37.520 I have a fucking non-profit organization to advocate for women.

03:28:41.160 I'm a feminist.

03:28:42.140 What is that?

03:28:43.420 Labiaplasty is when they...

03:28:45.200 They cut the labia.

03:28:45.780 Oh, my gosh.

03:28:46.180 The labia.

03:28:46.900 Yeah.

03:28:47.340 And I'm not a fan.

03:28:48.560 Like, hams and...

03:28:49.620 Oh, no makeup.

03:28:51.260 Minimal or no makeup.

03:28:52.500 No...

03:28:52.900 Prefer no scents of perfumes.

03:28:55.440 I feel that.

03:28:56.460 For what?

03:28:57.120 No scents of perfumes?

03:28:58.920 Deodorant's okay.

03:29:00.980 Deodorant's okay?

03:29:01.720 Eh, I'm not a fan of lotion.

03:29:03.200 I mean, whatever.

03:29:04.960 Let's see.

03:29:05.480 But when it comes to the natural body supremacy thing, let me make my point even stronger.

03:29:11.920 I'll take...

03:29:12.520 I'd prefer, like, a girl with no boobs.

03:29:14.780 So, like, A cup.

03:29:17.560 Flat over some fake titties.

03:29:20.380 Over fake titties.

03:29:21.900 I'll take a little belly fat over lipo belly.

03:29:24.840 I'll take a small bum over a BBL.

03:29:27.880 And a small upper lip.

03:29:30.760 Over lip fillers.

03:29:31.900 I think you're describing me.

03:29:34.800 No, I'm just kidding.

03:29:36.020 It's like, basically, take any woman with any of these procedures, however they were before.

03:29:41.660 I would prefer them as they were.

03:29:45.420 Let's see.

03:29:46.180 What else?

03:29:46.580 Yeah, no...

03:29:50.440 Oh, like, other shit, like fake nails, fake hair.

03:29:53.960 Don't really like that.

03:29:56.860 I said large labia.

03:29:58.600 I'm a fan of large labia.

03:30:00.020 Big labia matter.

03:30:00.360 Big labia matter.

03:30:01.860 BLM.

03:30:02.720 Hashtag BLM.

03:30:04.580 Please support it, guys.

03:30:07.040 And...

03:30:07.440 Oh, personality.

03:30:08.660 Okay.

03:30:08.900 Um, I'm kind of...

03:30:11.040 This is kind of a new...

03:30:12.100 A niche one.

03:30:13.320 I'm kind of...

03:30:14.100 Girls are totally the opposite from me on this.

03:30:16.840 I want a girl who's a premature ejaculator.

03:30:22.160 That's under personality?

03:30:25.860 I'm getting...

03:30:26.600 I'm getting there.

03:30:27.280 I'm getting there.

03:30:29.180 I'm getting there.

03:30:30.420 But, like, where's all the, like, chicks that are premature ejaculators?

03:30:35.200 What the fuck does that mean?

03:30:36.860 That means they come early.

03:30:38.200 I've met a few.

03:30:40.700 Good times.

03:30:41.920 Um...

03:30:42.160 You know.

03:30:44.260 Uh, let's see.

03:30:45.140 What else?

03:30:45.880 Oh, I want her...

03:30:47.640 I'm very much, like, very feminine.

03:30:50.780 Submissive.

03:30:51.840 Some people have an issue with that word.

03:30:53.240 I like submissive women.

03:30:54.540 In fact, Nick, speaking of submissive women,

03:30:58.180 we have the bowing video.

03:31:00.020 Nick, can you pull up the bowing video?

03:31:01.420 This is what I want, okay?

03:31:03.120 This is a bit, you know, a bit excessive.

03:31:06.140 A little bit.

03:31:07.420 But not really.

03:31:08.200 Go ahead.

03:31:09.480 Holy shit.

03:31:10.320 Did you guys fucking see that bow?

03:31:13.660 Bro.

03:31:15.180 So attractive.

03:31:17.000 Now, this extra part, okay, he's, you know, not really.

03:31:20.880 But look, attentive.

03:31:21.900 I get home from a long podcast.

03:31:24.960 My food's ready.

03:31:26.400 She's got a beer.

03:31:27.600 I don't drink alcohol.

03:31:29.580 But she's got a drink ready for me.

03:31:31.800 I'm not a big noodles guy, but, you know, she doesn't have to do the noodles.

03:31:35.460 That's too much.

03:31:37.060 I mean, it's nice.

03:31:37.820 It's the, it's, and then Nick, one more time.

03:31:40.080 Let's just see the bow, just to reinforce it.

03:31:44.200 Boom.

03:31:44.800 Holy shit.

03:31:45.440 Did you see, you see, did you see the technique?

03:31:48.200 Huge.

03:31:49.100 The bow.

03:31:49.840 Huge.

03:31:50.200 Huge.

03:31:50.240 So, she's got a, big fan of the bow.

03:31:53.100 Got to get that down.

03:31:53.880 Got to have the bow.

03:31:57.300 Yeah.

03:31:59.640 That's it.

03:32:00.220 Anybody object to the bow?

03:32:01.620 No.

03:32:02.700 Like, if you're, you're, you're dating this guy, you like him, but he's like, hey, babe,

03:32:07.580 would you bow for me?

03:32:08.380 I'd like you upon greeting.

03:32:10.660 Don't worry, not in public.

03:32:11.840 Actually, yes, in public.

03:32:14.240 Babe, I need you to just bust out a bow.

03:32:18.800 Would you go for it?

03:32:20.220 I wouldn't do it.

03:32:21.260 Why are you shaming?

03:32:23.720 That's really offensive, bro.

03:32:27.240 I actually think it's racially insensitive for you to say that, too.

03:32:31.680 I wouldn't do it.

03:32:32.360 I think you're a racist.

03:32:33.780 I'm kidding.

03:32:34.140 I'm kidding.

03:32:34.520 Come on.

03:32:34.940 A little levity here, eh?

03:32:36.620 I'm kidding.

03:32:37.280 You're not a racist.

03:32:38.640 I retract my accusations.

03:32:42.640 Why are you looking at me that way, bro?

03:32:43.980 Relax.

03:32:45.180 I love you.

03:32:45.920 Just kidding.

03:32:48.340 Sorry.

03:32:48.660 We got one sense of humor here.

03:32:50.100 All right.

03:32:50.480 Come on, guys.

03:32:51.120 I'm joking around here.

03:32:52.400 Would you do a bow?

03:32:53.560 Would you do a bow?

03:32:54.240 No.

03:32:56.140 Bro, this girl wants a munch, but she won't do a bow.

03:32:58.760 What's up with that?

03:32:59.560 No.

03:32:59.880 Into the mic.

03:33:01.080 We'll do other things.

03:33:02.060 Into the mic.

03:33:02.680 No, wait.

03:33:03.200 That's correct.

03:33:03.700 Wait.

03:33:04.120 You'll do other things?

03:33:04.820 What will you do?

03:33:05.840 What do you do?

03:33:06.480 Bro, it's head for head.

03:33:07.460 Like, I'm sorry.

03:33:08.380 Whoa.

03:33:08.740 It's as simple as it is.

03:33:10.000 Wait.

03:33:10.340 Question.

03:33:10.940 Okay.

03:33:11.220 What?

03:33:11.720 You don't mind me asking you kind of a vulgar question?

03:33:16.440 Let's see.

03:33:17.180 Let's see what the question is.

03:33:17.840 Okay.

03:33:18.080 She's down.

03:33:19.720 Like, would you be cool with a guy?

03:33:23.700 Some girls are into this.

03:33:24.900 They want to be, I'm trying to put it in the most fucking delicate way possible.

03:33:29.140 Just saying.

03:33:29.440 They want to receive the seed on the facial area.

03:33:35.460 You know, I actually heard that's really good for your skin, so.

03:33:38.540 So, you'd be down?

03:33:41.180 Like, you're into that?

03:33:42.240 Yeah, but I know that's like.

03:33:43.500 Have you done that?

03:33:45.560 That sounds like a yes.

03:33:46.860 No, I really have to remember because I, you know, I don't really be doing.

03:33:50.580 But that's crazy because I'm over here.

03:33:53.120 I just want, I want to bow and, like, girls be like, whoa, that's depressive.

03:33:59.100 But you want, you'll let a guy, girls, you'll let a guy come on your face, but you won't do a bow?

03:34:07.020 That's crazy, son.

03:34:07.980 That's so different, though, bro.

03:34:08.840 That's crazy.

03:34:09.840 Bro.

03:34:10.560 What do you mean?

03:34:11.420 What I do in bed with my man, like, is a completely different thing.

03:34:14.920 Boom.

03:34:15.300 Right in the eyeball.

03:34:15.980 Maybe I'm a little bit of a freak.

03:34:17.280 What if it gets in your eyeball, son?

03:34:18.520 No, that's not good for you.

03:34:19.360 Huh?

03:34:19.520 Maybe, maybe you can do it on my hand.

03:34:20.900 I'll just.

03:34:21.300 Bro, you could get an eye infection.

03:34:22.520 You don't even know.

03:34:23.360 Yeah, I know.

03:34:23.840 That's bad for you.

03:34:24.440 It gets in your hair.

03:34:25.260 Then it fucks your hair up.

03:34:26.500 The hair gets all fucked up.

03:34:28.040 It takes years to get that shit out.

03:34:30.880 I'm exaggerating a bit.

03:34:32.220 I haven't had that experience.

03:34:33.460 I've literally never had that.

03:34:34.600 Accidental in the hair?

03:34:37.160 Huh.

03:34:38.020 Okay.

03:34:38.780 But would I bow?

03:34:39.460 He's got good aim, then.

03:34:40.320 He's got good aim.

03:34:42.460 Bowing, like, let's say, like, you, I don't know, like, we were going on a date, and then

03:34:46.960 I saw you, right?

03:34:47.580 We met up with each other.

03:34:48.240 You want me to bow to you?

03:34:48.940 I'm like, I don't know.

03:34:49.400 That's what they do in Asia, though.

03:34:50.740 That's what, that's like, that's not that.

03:34:52.220 How about just in private?

03:34:53.300 Just in private.

03:34:54.020 Like, I'm coming home.

03:34:56.060 I don't know.

03:34:56.620 It's just nothing, something I've never done.

03:34:58.320 I mean, for our culture, like, in the Philippines, we do that for, like, adults and stuff.

03:35:01.560 Wait, in the Philippines?

03:35:02.300 My mom's Filipino.

03:35:03.440 Oh, you're half black, half Filipino.

03:35:05.960 So, like, we do that.

03:35:07.900 We do, we do this.

03:35:09.740 You know what I mean?

03:35:10.340 To, like, every adult.

03:35:11.240 What's that?

03:35:11.760 Oh, yeah.

03:35:12.280 Would I do that to a man?

03:35:13.100 What is that?

03:35:14.480 It's literally just, like, a sign of respect, but.

03:35:16.280 Oh, okay.

03:35:17.140 You know, we don't do that for our hands or guys.

03:35:18.180 I'd still like the bow.

03:35:19.280 I mean, that's nice.

03:35:19.940 No, yeah, but it's, like, the same kind of, like, thing.

03:35:22.740 I'd prefer the bow.

03:35:24.160 It's nice, though.

03:35:25.560 Okay, what about you?

03:35:26.340 You do a bow for your guy?

03:35:27.760 He wants a bow?

03:35:28.520 Yeah, I mean, we've been dating for two years.

03:35:30.640 If he asks, I would.

03:35:31.960 What's your, is your boyfriend watching right now?

03:35:34.500 Uh, no.

03:35:36.080 Yo, dude, I know you're fucking watching this shit.

03:35:38.340 Get the bow going.

03:35:39.420 Dude, you gotta fucking ask.

03:35:41.000 You gotta get her to do a bow.

03:35:42.280 I would do it even if he didn't ask me.

03:35:44.400 You know what?

03:35:44.940 Just, if he's not watching, just surprise him.

03:35:47.500 With a bow.

03:35:48.300 Just surprise him with a bow.

03:35:49.140 The next time I see him.

03:35:49.900 That would be incredible.

03:35:50.620 And message us.

03:35:52.320 Message us.

03:35:53.500 I will.

03:35:54.460 And tell us how he reacts.

03:35:56.340 He'd probably be like, all right.

03:35:57.640 He'd be like, yo, that's hot.

03:35:58.920 All right, let's go.

03:36:00.440 Uh, what about you?

03:36:01.060 Would you, would you bow?

03:36:02.220 That's all.

03:36:02.800 Only if it was, like, a joke to make fun of this.

03:36:05.340 No, totally serious.

03:36:07.200 Totally serious.

03:36:07.620 No.

03:36:08.120 You wouldn't do it?

03:36:08.760 What about you?

03:36:09.220 No.

03:36:09.580 No bow?

03:36:10.260 Oh, I absolutely will do it for my husband.

03:36:12.240 Actually, he lives in Japan.

03:36:13.580 He speaks Japanese.

03:36:14.420 He's fluent in Japanese.

03:36:15.500 So he probably will love that.

03:36:16.800 Is he, is he in Japanese?

03:36:17.840 No, he's American.

03:36:18.580 He's white.

03:36:18.980 What about you?

03:36:19.380 Yeah, I would.

03:36:20.120 Oh, yeah.

03:36:20.580 Um, would you want a bow from your, from your lady friend?

03:36:24.840 If, if my lady friend or wife bowed to me, I would take it as a sign of deep respect and

03:36:30.100 I would be very appreciative.

03:36:31.280 Yeah.

03:36:31.920 There you go.

03:36:32.700 All right.

03:36:33.320 Last, last for what I want to, personality, right?

03:36:37.400 Personality.

03:36:37.720 I think the bow was part of the personality thing a little bit, but I have a moderate preference

03:36:42.340 for introverted women.

03:36:43.580 I've written in the list.

03:36:44.460 I'm just going to read it.

03:36:45.920 Quiet, calm, soft-spoken, a little bit shy, a little bit nerdy.

03:36:50.760 Um, and also I'd argue once a shy or introverted person gets comfortable around you, I'd say their

03:36:56.780 personality tends to blossom.

03:36:59.180 Modesty is huge.

03:37:00.560 I don't like women who are super cocky or big egos, super vain divas.

03:37:04.960 Not my thing.

03:37:05.800 I mean, brings me peace, doesn't quarrel.

03:37:08.540 Proverbs 21, 19, better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.

03:37:12.940 Oh, I've heard that.

03:37:14.020 One of the most based Bible verses.

03:37:17.540 Doesn't party, doesn't drink.

03:37:20.040 Occasionally, I rarely drink, so there's reciprocity here.

03:37:24.020 Doesn't do drugs, doesn't go to bars or clubs.

03:37:27.660 Low body count, the lower the better.

03:37:30.420 No current or past promiscuity.

03:37:32.480 Undivided romantic and sexual attention.

03:37:34.720 The earlier, the better.

03:37:37.660 Has a praise kink?

03:37:39.100 Just throwing that in there.

03:37:40.380 They're saying there's some lag issues.

03:37:42.420 Lag?

03:37:42.920 Okay, I'll figure it out.

03:37:44.620 Is everybody in the chat saying that?

03:37:46.760 A lot of people.

03:37:47.820 On my YouTube, on my phone, it's good.

03:37:49.540 I'll take a look.

03:37:51.660 Just to wrap up.

03:37:54.100 Someone who helps me on my mission.

03:37:56.560 Someone who's attentive.

03:37:58.020 And honestly, the way some people say, like, the way to your heart, a man's heart is through

03:38:02.060 his stomach.

03:38:02.760 I just, like, scratch my back, massage my shoulders.

03:38:06.300 Boom.

03:38:07.160 Done deal.

03:38:07.740 So, that's it for me.

03:38:10.600 I'm going to, I need to get up for a sec, check on a couple things.

03:38:12.900 We'll start with you.

03:38:13.960 Going around the table, what are you looking for?

03:38:18.120 What was the question?

03:38:19.760 What's your type?

03:38:20.700 What's your type?

03:38:21.340 What's your type?

03:38:21.940 Thank you.

03:38:22.720 Thank you.

03:38:23.200 Going around the table.

03:38:24.120 What's your type?

03:38:24.940 Looks wise.

03:38:25.900 Personality.

03:38:26.440 Go ahead.

03:38:26.700 I would say someone who is attentive.

03:38:33.540 They're aware of life outside of themselves.

03:38:37.740 And they're very caring, not just for me, but for themselves, their family, for their friends.

03:38:43.760 Someone who's creative and, well, I guess someone who puts that to action.

03:38:51.520 Like, they have hobbies and they do things they enjoy.

03:38:55.480 They have that passion and they pursue things.

03:39:00.260 I really don't know what else to say.

03:39:02.680 Physical?

03:39:05.860 I don't really have any physical preferences, I don't think.

03:39:15.860 No?

03:39:16.760 No.

03:39:17.600 I mean, maybe long hair.

03:39:19.040 What about height?

03:39:20.520 Height doesn't really matter.

03:39:21.840 I've dated people shorter than me.

03:39:25.480 Would you be attracted to someone who's obese?

03:39:29.100 Sure.

03:39:29.800 Yeah?

03:39:31.860 Hmm.

03:39:32.560 This is hard.

03:39:33.460 Probably, I would prefer somebody taller than me.

03:39:36.560 I've, the person who I was talking to in my past, that recent past that I was, that I mentioned,

03:39:42.200 he was, like, around my height, which is okay.

03:39:44.760 Like, it's not, nothing too crazy.

03:39:46.480 Um, like, racial preference, I would prefer, you know, somebody black or Hispanic.

03:39:53.740 Um, but I'll delve into white.

03:39:57.000 That's okay.

03:39:57.720 Like, that's fine, you know?

03:39:59.460 Um, anyway.

03:40:00.500 Try to conflate myself.

03:40:01.740 Yeah, right?

03:40:02.480 A little Napoleon ice cream moment, whatever.

03:40:05.020 Um, let me think.

03:40:06.540 Like, definitely somebody who's disciplined, self-aware, has goals, and does what they have

03:40:12.700 to do to, like, achieve those goals.

03:40:15.380 Hmm.

03:40:16.380 I don't know.

03:40:17.240 Definitely not, like, a fashion guy.

03:40:19.840 I'm sorry.

03:40:20.520 Like, if you're really, if you're really, like, hardcore into that, you know, good for you.

03:40:25.840 Stay away from me, not for me.

03:40:26.820 I'm sorry.

03:40:27.600 Probably just, like, I don't know.

03:40:30.480 A masculine guy.

03:40:31.620 Yeah.

03:40:32.080 Yeah.

03:40:32.280 Somebody more masculine.

03:40:33.280 Okay.

03:40:36.980 Um, I don't have a racial preference.

03:40:40.920 Um, I've also dated people that were my height, and I don't really mind that.

03:40:48.900 Um, build-wise, I would prefer the person to be on the more athletic slash muscular side,

03:40:58.600 but I can't really say much about that, because I'm a little bit chunky myself.

03:41:04.380 Um, but I prefer that.

03:41:09.080 Um, obviously, like, good hygiene and good health.

03:41:14.880 Um, personality-wise, I like when guys are a little bit shy, but they can make their own

03:41:23.780 decisions and aren't super indecisive.

03:41:26.760 I also really, also like masculine men, more masculine men.

03:41:33.300 Um, yeah.

03:41:38.180 Okay, well, I kind of already went, but, yeah, I agree with the hygiene thing.

03:41:44.220 Um, I was, like, raised pretty hygienic, and I didn't realize that was a thing until I came

03:41:49.960 to college and other people, um, who weren't, and so that's a pretty big thing for me, like,

03:41:56.220 brush your teeth in the morning and at night.

03:41:58.560 I think that's pretty basic.

03:41:59.940 Basic hygiene.

03:42:00.840 You would think.

03:42:01.420 Okay.

03:42:02.080 Yeah.

03:42:03.300 Um, yeah, I don't have a racial preference.

03:42:05.840 I feel like I just have mostly gone with white guys, just because maybe that's who's attracted

03:42:10.700 me and, like, who's around, um, and what else?

03:42:15.220 I was gonna say, oh, also, I do want someone caring, too, and I think I kind of skipped

03:42:20.240 over that, but I'm pretty, like, giving and caring, and I would not want someone that is

03:42:27.260 just, like, taking, and I've seen that in relationships of, like, other people, and I just think it's,

03:42:33.320 like, doomed to end, that, like, it's not an even relationship, so, yeah.

03:42:38.740 Um, physically, I'd say I'm attracted to, like, white or, like, waysian guys, um, taller

03:42:46.740 than me, athletic.

03:42:49.400 I like athletes, um, yeah, people that, like, care about their physical health.

03:42:55.240 Um, yeah, hygiene, too, now that we're talking about that, that's vague.

03:43:00.560 Um, I don't do well with germs, and so, yeah, hygiene.

03:43:06.200 You're a germaphobe?

03:43:07.880 Yeah, probably, like, yeah.

03:43:11.840 Um, what else?

03:43:14.320 Someone who's loyal, empathetic, observant, um, I'm religious, so someone, a guy that was

03:43:23.820 Christian, um, what else?

03:43:28.520 Yeah, someone that, I think, it's, like, aware of their emotions, and, like, even if

03:43:34.120 they don't have the best way of, like, expressing it, like, they, like, make an attempt.

03:43:41.600 My husband is my type.

03:43:43.740 Good answer.

03:43:45.320 Um, I'm gonna have to say God-fearing, ambitious, he has to go to the gym, funny, family-oriented.

03:43:51.440 I'm Mexican, black, and Filipino, so I prefer to date black or Mexicans, they're the only

03:43:55.440 ones who understand my culture, um, but other ethnicities are good, too.

03:43:58.940 I'm trying to think of colored eyes, tattoos, nice teeth, hygiene, yeah, smart, and somebody

03:44:05.980 who's respectable, like, a lot of people like him, you know, like, uh, you don't want those

03:44:08.980 guys that nobody likes to be around, so very, like, happy, funny.

03:44:12.520 Yeah.

03:44:13.140 I think that's it.

03:44:14.300 Fair, fair.

03:44:15.400 Uh, for me, um, number one, she has to be God-fearing.

03:44:19.480 Uh, she has to be, like, God is her number one priority.

03:44:24.220 She has dedicated her life to, uh, his mission, primarily.

03:44:28.480 Uh, secondly, I, I was talking to my friend about this, and, uh, the advice I usually give

03:44:34.160 to my buddies when they're asking, like, what do you look for in a woman?

03:44:38.220 Uh, I ask for submission.

03:44:40.820 I want them to be submissive, but what I think that plays out, uh, most applicably in a, like,

03:44:47.800 as we're starting off the relationship, is I want them to be teachable, like, and that

03:44:53.080 kind of sounds like, like, I'm a teacher and they're a child, not, not, not like that, but

03:44:58.280 if there's a disagreement, and I say, hey, this is what the Bible says about this issue,

03:45:04.840 uh, here, here are the references, here's what it says, um, I want you to think about

03:45:09.520 this, pray about this, and then come back to me with what you, like, where do you land

03:45:13.500 on this?

03:45:13.920 Because, and if the Bible is clear on a certain subject, and they come back to me, and they

03:45:17.760 disagree, and they say, I don't care, I still feel like it should be this way, that's, she's

03:45:22.960 not teachable, and, like, we can't grow as a couple if we can't say there's, like, an

03:45:27.880 objective standard to what we're trying to achieve, um, so she has to be teachable, uh,

03:45:33.180 she has to be in the gym, I, I want a woman who cares about her, uh, health, uh, her body,

03:45:38.740 um, I guess it doesn't, it doesn't necessarily have to be, like, a body, like, I'm not asking

03:45:42.640 for a bodybuilder, I just want someone who's gonna go into the gym, do their cardio, lift

03:45:46.940 some, lift heavy weights, uh, relative to what she's, how much does she have to squat?

03:45:51.160 Oh, boy.

03:45:51.960 $3.50.

03:45:52.800 How much, how much does she have to bench?

03:45:55.020 Oh, that's a good question.

03:45:56.180 $3.50.

03:45:56.520 No, I'm just kidding.

03:45:57.180 Uh, I, I was, uh, talking to this one girl who, you know, she benches, like, uh, she

03:46:01.980 benches equipped, but she benches, like, uh, mid-300s equipped.

03:46:07.060 It's a whole lot.

03:46:11.400 Yeah, yeah.

03:46:11.900 That is a man.

03:46:12.840 But, uh, yeah, so.

03:46:13.380 But that's her squat.

03:46:13.900 It's her squat.

03:46:14.840 Her squat, uh, it was, like, mid-400s.

03:46:18.540 Damn.

03:46:19.140 Equipped.

03:46:19.920 Equipped.

03:46:20.380 Does it, I mean, does it get to a point to you, like, can it ever get to a point when

03:46:23.880 it comes to, uh, a woman's looks where, if they're too muscular, they're getting into,

03:46:29.760 like, masculine territory?

03:46:30.860 Yeah, yeah, like, she was definitely not, like, she didn't look super muscular.

03:46:35.320 Like, I could tell if she had, like, some muscle on her, but she wasn't, like, ripped

03:46:39.400 and, like, veiny and just, uh, that doesn't look good.

03:46:43.840 Like, she did look feminine.

03:46:45.440 Like, I could tell, uh, I mean, she, she had, like, uh, muscular, muscular, uh, oh, what

03:46:51.240 I'm trying to say.

03:46:52.480 Uh, she had muscular features.

03:46:54.600 So, uh, it accentuated certain things about her that I liked.

03:46:58.520 But, um, yeah, so I'm looking for somebody who's fit.

03:47:02.120 But, uh, I'm also kind of, like, a natural body kind of guy.

03:47:06.660 I don't want someone who's...

03:47:07.640 Say it.

03:47:08.440 Say it.

03:47:09.380 You're a supremacist.

03:47:10.520 I am a natural body supremacist.

03:47:13.320 Yes, yes, I agree.

03:47:14.620 I have a question about that.

03:47:16.580 So, would you...

03:47:17.360 Supremacy?

03:47:18.140 Yeah.

03:47:18.500 Would you consider Ozempic a quote-unquote modification?

03:47:24.840 Uh, well, not...

03:47:28.940 So, it depends on the situation.

03:47:30.240 Related to the natural body supremacy thing, not really.

03:47:34.700 I mean, I...

03:47:35.800 For me, that's more so anything that's a cosmetic procedure or surgery.

03:47:41.520 So, if you're taking a medication, that's, I mean, that's for weight loss.

03:47:46.500 It's also for diabetes as well.

03:47:48.420 I take it.

03:47:48.980 I wouldn't...

03:47:49.440 Yeah, so if she's taking medication...

03:47:51.600 I lost 30 pounds.

03:47:52.420 I would say...

03:47:52.840 That's awesome.

03:47:53.560 Good for you.

03:47:54.020 I would say medication is really not really within the realm of what I'm talking about

03:47:58.100 when it comes to natural body supremacy.

03:47:59.660 I'm talking, like, I don't want a girl with fake boobs.

03:48:02.020 Even if she has small...

03:48:03.200 Like, again, I'd prefer just no boobs, small boobs, small boobs, over fake boobs.

03:48:08.540 No lip filler.

03:48:10.160 No fat transfer stuff.

03:48:12.940 BBLs.

03:48:13.880 No labioplasty.

03:48:15.160 I already said that.

03:48:16.400 The most important thing, obviously.

03:48:18.500 Yeah, obviously.

03:48:19.240 Yeah.

03:48:19.540 Obviously.

03:48:20.720 You wanted to continue, though, you were saying on the natural body...

03:48:22.860 Oh, yeah.

03:48:23.100 Body supremacy.

03:48:24.020 Yeah, natural body supremacy.

03:48:26.020 So, no procedures.

03:48:28.060 Like, I want a woman to be comfortable in who she is.

03:48:32.060 Like, God created me as such.

03:48:34.920 And I want her to be like, I am totally cool with that.

03:48:38.080 And I want to give myself to you like that.

03:48:39.980 And I think that's, like, from a mental place, that's awesome.

03:48:43.540 Like, she's comfortable in herself.

03:48:45.180 She's comfortable in her skin.

03:48:46.200 And I think that's just super attractive.

03:48:48.480 I guess personality-wise, I really love a woman who's kind of chaotic.

03:48:54.880 What?

03:48:56.080 Wait, you love a woman who's chaotic?

03:48:57.840 So, I'm a pretty mellow dude.

03:49:00.300 Like, I'm quiet.

03:49:01.700 When I say things, it's usually, like, I feel like they need to be said.

03:49:05.260 I'll usually reserve, like, what I have to be said for, like, the last possible moment or if it's necessary.

03:49:10.220 I've had the most fun in relationships when, like, I can kind of hold frame and she's kind of chaotic inside of it.

03:49:19.120 Like, she brings energy.

03:49:20.760 Like, she's kind of fun to be around.

03:49:23.040 She'll say things that, like, off the wall.

03:49:25.360 I'm like, huh, that's kind of strange.

03:49:27.320 Or, like, she has a sense of humor.

03:49:29.780 I think there's, like, something beautiful about, like, a man being, like, that frame.

03:49:34.080 And then his woman being kind of, like, the energy bringer.

03:49:38.580 I love that dynamic.

03:49:40.460 I'm really into that.

03:49:42.140 I've kind of discovered that over time.

03:49:44.420 Because I've dated women who are just kind of, like, low energy.

03:49:48.460 And it matches me.

03:49:49.900 And I'm just, like.

03:49:51.200 It brings you down even more.

03:49:52.860 I kind of, like, I want you to, like, lift my spirits.

03:49:56.600 And for some women, that's, like, natural to them.

03:49:59.160 And I love that.

03:50:00.400 But you used a specific word there.

03:50:02.400 You used chaos.

03:50:03.540 Yeah.

03:50:04.260 Is that the best word?

03:50:05.860 You want chaos?

03:50:07.220 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:50:10.380 I don't know.

03:50:10.840 It's chaos?

03:50:12.580 Yeah.

03:50:13.080 Well, because I'm, like.

03:50:14.420 Organized chaos.

03:50:15.480 Yeah.

03:50:15.700 Chaos is, like, unpredictable.

03:50:16.960 Yeah, so it's just, like, unpredictable.

03:50:18.380 Like, there's a time and place.

03:50:18.800 Yeah, chaos is, like, unpredictability.

03:50:21.220 So, like.

03:50:23.300 It's chaos to a certain extent.

03:50:25.200 Like, I don't want her to, like.

03:50:27.480 One day she's, like.

03:50:30.260 Totally devoted to me.

03:50:31.880 And then the next day she's, like.

03:50:32.800 I'm going to go sleep with this other dude.

03:50:34.060 No, like, I'm not talking about, like, that chaos.

03:50:36.680 I'm talking about, like.

03:50:37.820 Just her personality.

03:50:39.260 Kind of, like.

03:50:39.880 Like.

03:50:40.760 Bubbly.

03:50:41.340 But not bubbly.

03:50:43.040 With an edge.

03:50:44.240 Yeah, exactly.

03:50:45.200 Bubbly with, like, an edge.

03:50:46.760 She'll, like.

03:50:47.400 Say things off the wall.

03:50:49.000 Or, like.

03:50:49.440 Say what's on her mind.

03:50:50.520 Talk.

03:50:50.720 But.

03:50:52.720 It's.

03:50:53.340 The best way I've found to describe it is chaos.

03:50:56.900 She's a little chaotic.

03:50:58.040 Things just happen with her.

03:50:58.800 Is there, like, a female celebrity you can point to who has this trait?

03:51:05.360 I feel like Emilia Clarke.

03:51:07.580 Emilia Clarke is kind of.

03:51:08.620 If you know her.

03:51:09.240 Jennifer Lawrence.

03:51:11.680 She's so pretty.

03:51:12.540 Maria from The Bachelor.

03:51:13.760 Oh, yeah, yeah.

03:51:14.340 Like, Jennifer Lawrence.

03:51:15.560 You know who that is?

03:51:16.240 I actually.

03:51:16.740 I used to have a big crush on Jennifer Lawrence.

03:51:18.340 What about Emilia from Game of Thrones?

03:51:21.080 Game of Thrones, yeah.

03:51:23.160 Daenerys.

03:51:23.920 Oh.

03:51:24.700 She's super bubbly.

03:51:25.720 Yes, yes.

03:51:26.180 Okay, yes.

03:51:26.540 Have you seen her in interviews?

03:51:27.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:51:27.580 She's kind of got this.

03:51:28.260 Yeah, I totally.

03:51:29.020 Yeah, she's my type.

03:51:32.040 Okay.

03:51:32.920 There we go.

03:51:33.820 And you're a virgin.

03:51:35.800 Are you looking for a virgin?

03:51:36.800 Oh, yes.

03:51:38.500 Like, 100%?

03:51:39.840 I'm a virgin.

03:51:41.700 I'm not necessarily.

03:51:42.940 I mean, Brian's against this.

03:51:44.480 But I'm not necessarily looking for a virgin.

03:51:47.200 Brian really wants me to wait for a virgin.

03:51:49.560 I'm his gatekeeper.

03:51:52.300 Yes, he's my gatekeeper.

03:51:53.980 I'm the gatekeeper.

03:51:54.860 So whenever I find a woman, I will present her to Brian for his approval.

03:51:58.260 You need to, yes, it has to go through me first.

03:52:00.540 Exactly, yes, yes, yes.

03:52:01.640 You want to get to him, you got to get through me.

03:52:04.220 Indeed.

03:52:04.820 We have established this, so, yeah.

03:52:07.860 Not sus and hold.

03:52:09.600 Wait, so, hold on.

03:52:12.260 So you're, but it sounds like, prefer virgin, but you'd be okay if she isn't.

03:52:16.200 Exactly, yeah.

03:52:16.860 I prefer virgin, but I'm not blind to the statistics that, like, if you have five or more partners,

03:52:23.320 you're 20%, you're only 20% likely to have a successful marriage.

03:52:27.140 So, like, I'm not blind to those statistics.

03:52:28.900 I understand that.

03:52:30.260 So, like, I want someone to not have, like, a high body count.

03:52:35.520 If you want to use, I'll use that term because it describes what I'm talking about.

03:52:39.700 So, but, yeah, I want someone who's not promiscuous.

03:52:45.600 Based.

03:52:46.300 Valid.

03:52:47.460 Based.

03:52:48.480 Yes, based.

03:52:49.720 Is there any ladies here at the table wanting to get with a virgin man?

03:52:56.920 Not specifically.

03:52:58.760 Like, I don't care.

03:53:00.540 I don't care.

03:53:01.160 No preference?

03:53:01.760 No.

03:53:01.940 I wouldn't care.

03:53:02.420 What if the guy, like, do you have a preference for a guy who's sexually experienced or a guy who's sexually inexperienced?

03:53:10.980 Neither.

03:53:12.620 Are we going around the table?

03:53:15.960 Take it away.

03:53:17.380 No preference.

03:53:18.800 No preference?

03:53:19.640 You have no preference?

03:53:21.860 Kind of like with a sports thing, no preference?

03:53:25.740 Wait, you don't have any preference.

03:53:27.200 So, like, let me frame it this way.

03:53:29.840 Really good in bed and really inexperienced in bed.

03:53:35.460 Which might not necessarily always mean that they're bad in bed, but it's more likely.

03:53:43.340 I mean, I'm not looking for either specifically.

03:53:45.900 If they have other traits that I like and that just so happens to be what they are.

03:53:49.520 So it's not a deal, like, it wouldn't be a deal breaker for you if they're just terrible in bed.

03:53:53.080 That's fine.

03:53:53.760 It's not the most, I mean.

03:53:55.820 I don't know.

03:53:56.260 It might be a little bit.

03:53:57.340 If they're terrible, it might influence things, but it's not the most important thing.

03:54:02.260 Okay.

03:54:03.980 Okay.

03:54:05.140 Wait, going back to the hygiene thing.

03:54:09.660 You were talking about hygiene.

03:54:12.420 This is somewhat hygiene related.

03:54:14.280 And I'm bringing it back to the munch thing a little bit.

03:54:20.220 Sort of, but the reverse.

03:54:21.480 Would you feel off-put if, like, you went down on a dude and whether, you know, he finished or he didn't, he didn't want to kiss you after.

03:54:34.680 Would you feel a bit, this is open to the panel, we'll start there.

03:54:38.620 You know, feel a little like, what the fuck?

03:54:42.760 Maybe a little.

03:54:46.080 I don't know.

03:54:48.020 It would be a little bit.

03:54:49.700 A little, yeah.

03:54:50.160 A little bit.

03:54:50.760 Didn't want to kiss you after getting horrible.

03:54:52.940 No, I don't.

03:54:53.480 That's fine.

03:54:54.180 Yeah.

03:54:55.000 I feel like a little bit.

03:54:55.900 I could understand.

03:54:57.080 It's just like, okay, then we'd have to time that, you know.

03:55:00.320 I don't know.

03:55:00.980 Time it.

03:55:01.380 Because then it's like, if it's like, it was just like at the beginning, it's like, okay, now I can't kiss you unless I go brush my teeth.

03:55:07.060 It's like, okay, that kind of just killed the vibe.

03:55:09.280 Or you just don't kiss for the remainder of the session, you know, it works.

03:55:15.720 It's just not preferable.

03:55:16.900 Okay, what about you?

03:55:17.580 I think it's a little weird.

03:55:18.720 A little weird?

03:55:19.460 Okay.

03:55:19.800 Yeah, it's weird.

03:55:21.080 Unfortunately, the mic was like two meters away.

03:55:23.120 I don't really care about that stuff.

03:55:25.160 Don't care about that stuff?

03:55:27.600 I'm not going to answer that question.

03:55:28.700 I'm not going to answer that?

03:55:29.320 Okay.

03:55:31.380 I got to come out and say it.

03:55:34.940 And I don't really, you know, don't want to kiss after that.

03:55:39.380 We knew.

03:55:39.860 No surprise.

03:55:41.900 Hey, look, sexual boundary.

03:55:45.420 Sure.

03:55:46.080 Sexual boundary, you know.

03:55:47.380 I mean, it's also valid if like a guy goes down on the girl and then if the girl doesn't want to kiss him afterwards, it's basically the same thing.

03:55:56.980 I don't object to that.

03:55:58.080 Exactly.

03:55:58.700 And that's why I'm like, if he doesn't want to kiss, then he doesn't want to kiss.

03:56:02.160 Like, I'm not going to force him.

03:56:04.060 It's only, the difference is though, it seems there's like a lot of pushback when men have sexual boundaries about what they do or don't want to do.

03:56:12.380 Like, imagine if we were like, what the fuck?

03:56:16.800 I just ate your pussy.

03:56:18.100 You don't want to kiss me?

03:56:20.180 I don't know.

03:56:20.860 I don't know how many, maybe, I don't know if there's a, they've probably never done a study on this.

03:56:25.180 If there's like, is it equal rates in terms of do women not enjoy kissing after receiving?

03:56:32.580 Do, I don't know what the difference is, but.

03:56:34.200 Any thoughts on that?

03:56:37.480 Did anybody, nevermind, actually, nevermind on that.

03:56:40.840 Say it.

03:56:41.120 Did we miss any, oh, let me read this chat.

03:56:45.240 Perseocles?

03:56:46.700 Perseocles?

03:56:47.160 I don't know.

03:56:47.640 I'm a bit late to it, but bowing is a problem.

03:56:50.220 Hispanic is, Hispanic in the Midwest.

03:56:52.920 In my family, when we, Saludar, we get on our knees, kiss the back of the hand, then touch their hand to our forehead.

03:57:02.480 That's what you do.

03:57:04.020 Well, I feel like that's like a cultural thing.

03:57:06.220 Like, personally, that's not my culture.

03:57:08.700 But in Hispanic countries, we don't really do that.

03:57:11.160 I don't know what he said.

03:57:11.780 You know what?

03:57:12.400 Fine.

03:57:13.420 I will, I will accept a curtsy from a white woman.

03:57:17.660 If that's what it takes, that shit, people did that shit in the Middle Ages and shit with kings and queens.

03:57:22.380 And that was a Caucasian cultural thing.

03:57:25.980 I love that.

03:57:26.960 I'd prefer the bow, but I will accept, I will begrudgingly accept a curtsy.

03:57:32.020 In fact, I would like to see every single girl here.

03:57:35.620 I want to see your curtsies.

03:57:38.300 That's applicable to modern dating.

03:57:40.860 Do you have it?

03:57:41.240 Yeah.

03:57:41.540 Are you going to, like, bow back?

03:57:42.860 Is it being reciprocated?

03:57:44.120 Well, that was how it was, though.

03:57:46.000 Check this out.

03:57:46.800 This is how it goes.

03:57:47.700 Let's say I'm walking back to my house.

03:57:49.520 I get to my house.

03:57:50.980 My girl's there.

03:57:51.660 She does the bow.

03:57:53.160 I just do, like, I'm, like, walking past her.

03:57:55.640 I just, like, I use the side eye.

03:57:58.380 I'm just, like, that's it.

03:58:00.000 Hell no.

03:58:01.860 Sorry.

03:58:03.280 Okay.

03:58:05.200 What were we talking about again?

03:58:06.400 What were we, the curtsy?

03:58:07.580 Yeah.

03:58:07.980 It sounded like you wanted to do a curtsy.

03:58:10.400 No, we were saying that, like.

03:58:11.660 I can.

03:58:12.300 Let's see it.

03:58:13.280 Let's see the curtsy.

03:58:14.260 Should I just stand on the chair?

03:58:15.300 Oh, no, you can just, hold on.

03:58:17.500 Yeah.

03:58:17.660 Like, I don't have a skirt, so.

03:58:19.500 Yeah, it's fine.

03:58:20.120 It'll be a little bit difficult.

03:58:20.620 Pretend you have a skirt.

03:58:21.500 Yeah.

03:58:23.680 And then the bow.

03:58:24.500 Should we see the bow?

03:58:25.520 Oh, sure.

03:58:27.500 How'd they do that?

03:58:28.120 Put your hands by your side.

03:58:30.080 Yes.

03:58:30.620 Yeah.

03:58:31.840 It was pretty good.

03:58:32.700 It needs a bit of work, but it was good.

03:58:34.360 Yeah.

03:58:34.640 For your first attempt?

03:58:35.680 It was solid.

03:58:36.280 Good job.

03:58:36.800 Good job.

03:58:37.500 You'll make a man very happy one time.

03:58:39.420 Uh-oh.

03:58:39.780 That's my purpose.

03:58:40.660 No, I'm just saying.

03:58:43.940 I love bow.

03:58:44.560 I was joking.

03:58:47.680 Okay.

03:58:48.200 Anybody else want to try their hand at a curtsy?

03:58:52.080 I could try.

03:58:53.280 It's kind of fun.

03:58:53.860 All right.

03:58:54.140 She's trying a curtsy.

03:58:55.240 There you go.

03:59:01.240 Wow.

03:59:01.640 That was so bad.

03:59:02.760 I am so sorry.

03:59:03.880 I know what I said.

03:59:05.520 Yeah.

03:59:05.700 There's no room.

03:59:06.560 I mean.

03:59:07.640 She needs to stretch.

03:59:09.780 Is that better?

03:59:10.740 That was better.

03:59:12.320 That was better.

03:59:12.880 It was the effort.

03:59:15.820 If I was wearing a dress, it would be better.

03:59:17.880 Way better.

03:59:18.460 Yeah.

03:59:19.060 Okay.

03:59:19.420 Do you want me to bow?

03:59:20.160 I'll bow.

03:59:21.040 I'll see the.

03:59:22.720 That was good.

03:59:23.580 That was way better.

03:59:24.480 It was a deep.

03:59:25.680 That was way improved.

03:59:27.420 Way improved.

03:59:27.580 Way improved.

03:59:28.060 To everyone.

03:59:28.840 I'm impressed.

03:59:29.820 I'm very impressed by the bow.

03:59:31.520 Well done.

03:59:32.440 Thank you.

03:59:32.680 Well done.

03:59:33.660 I kind of want to see.

03:59:35.300 To practice.

03:59:35.820 I don't know if you're interested.

03:59:37.700 We could assess your bow or curtsy.

03:59:40.040 I seem like.

03:59:40.960 It seems like you really want to do this.

03:59:43.500 I can tell.

03:59:46.260 She's thinking about it.

03:59:47.580 Sophia's getting dropped.

03:59:48.300 No.

03:59:48.400 No.

03:59:48.580 I'm getting water.

03:59:50.420 I don't have to do one if I do one.

03:59:53.580 Does everybody have to do one?

03:59:54.620 If you do one.

03:59:55.700 Okay.

03:59:56.060 I'll do one if she does one.

03:59:57.260 Yeah.

03:59:57.360 I just have to.

03:59:58.040 Heck yeah.

03:59:58.840 Fix my.

03:59:59.540 Do it and you're cool.

04:00:00.740 Do it and you're cool.

04:00:02.680 Peer pressure.

04:00:03.320 Peer pressure.

04:00:04.080 Peer pressure.

04:00:05.060 Where do I go?

04:00:06.240 That's.

04:00:06.600 Yeah.

04:00:06.760 Perfect.

04:00:07.200 Right there.

04:00:07.640 Wait.

04:00:07.740 Right there.

04:00:09.760 All right.

04:00:10.360 That was pretty good.

04:00:11.280 Were you a theater kid?

04:00:13.240 Were you a theater kid?

04:00:14.580 Nope.

04:00:15.000 Okay.

04:00:15.620 That was like a theater kid.

04:00:16.780 Good stuff.

04:00:17.920 And then the.

04:00:18.740 Should we see the bow?

04:00:20.760 Wait.

04:00:21.000 That was the bow.

04:00:22.560 I would have.

04:00:23.460 It was decent.

04:00:24.340 Yeah.

04:00:24.580 It was a little.

04:00:25.020 Curtsy was definitely better than your bow.

04:00:27.020 Typically you want to go a little deeper with the bow I think.

04:00:29.920 But.

04:00:30.020 I don't think I've ever bowed before.

04:00:33.180 Hey.

04:00:33.660 You know.

04:00:34.620 I think.

04:00:35.580 Yeah.

04:00:36.020 Good stuff.

04:00:38.300 Good stuff.

04:00:39.600 That was.

04:00:40.420 It was good.

04:00:41.340 It was good.

04:00:42.200 Sorry.

04:00:42.640 All right.

04:00:43.180 Thank you Percy O'Clees for that one.

04:00:44.900 Appreciate it.

04:00:45.800 Oh shit.

04:00:46.420 Let me get into some of my appreciation.

04:00:48.380 Oh.

04:00:49.320 Did I do that?

04:00:50.280 No.

04:00:50.520 I did that.

04:00:51.040 Sorry.

04:00:52.200 Did the camera get.

04:00:53.180 Yes.

04:00:53.380 I think it did.

04:00:53.820 Oh fuck.

04:00:54.520 Okay.

04:00:55.100 Well are you.

04:00:55.600 What are you doing?

04:00:56.000 Are you going to sit back down?

04:00:57.120 What are you doing?

04:00:57.440 I thought.

04:00:57.640 Oh well I was going to get it in but I'd rather not honestly.

04:01:01.720 Because then I have to like pull my skirt down and then you know.

04:01:03.780 Okay.

04:01:04.200 Here.

04:01:04.420 Let me readjust the camera there.

04:01:06.020 I'll see at the end.

04:01:06.960 Well I need to fix the camera.

04:01:10.300 So while I do that why don't you guys.

04:01:12.540 Tay.

04:01:12.880 You got a question for the panel?

04:01:15.160 No.

04:01:16.100 Help me out bro.

04:01:17.280 Help me out here Tay.

04:01:18.640 You got a question.

04:01:19.320 A question about anything?

04:01:20.800 Dating.

04:01:21.800 You got this.

04:01:22.640 Did we already ask red flags?

04:01:24.720 No.

04:01:25.540 No.

04:01:25.840 Perfect.

04:01:26.120 What are your top three red flags?

04:01:29.480 Whether it's automatic or no for you when you meet a guy.

04:01:34.200 Want me to start?

04:01:36.500 I think somebody who doesn't keep their word.

04:01:39.680 I would say lying.

04:01:42.320 Oh keeping your exes around.

04:01:43.560 It's a no for me.

04:01:45.160 There's a lot of guys who have their exes around.

04:01:46.960 I don't know what's up with that lately.

04:01:48.180 I can't do it.

04:01:48.820 Not even as a friend.

04:01:50.080 No.

04:01:50.520 It's rude.

04:01:52.580 Agree.

04:01:53.180 Yeah.

04:01:53.340 Very much agree.

04:01:55.060 I could go next.

04:01:55.900 Yeah.

04:01:56.020 Let's go around the table.

04:01:56.880 Start over here.

04:01:58.480 Never mind.

04:01:59.380 Leader.

04:02:00.840 So top three.

04:02:02.920 I feel like I agree with the ex one.

04:02:04.360 That one's pretty important.

04:02:10.560 Entertaining other people's flirting is really annoying.

04:02:13.560 I don't like that.

04:02:16.060 That's a good one.

04:02:17.140 Faced.

04:02:17.500 Let's see what else.

04:02:22.400 Literal jealousy of animals.

04:02:23.740 Like.

04:02:25.460 She's from the talk.

04:02:26.760 Yeah.

04:02:27.060 She's from the talk.

04:02:27.780 Slightly personal.

04:02:33.420 Is that my turn?

04:02:34.280 Go for it.

04:02:34.900 Okay.

04:02:35.060 She said mmm.

04:02:36.240 Damn.

04:02:37.060 Okay.

04:02:37.520 Definitely big on that ex stuff.

04:02:39.580 That's hard.

04:02:42.000 How their relationship with their parents.

04:02:44.040 For sure.

04:02:44.640 If they have a bad relationship with their parents.

04:02:47.440 Yeah.

04:02:48.040 I don't like that.

04:02:49.720 What else?

04:02:51.440 And like a little bit bummy.

04:02:53.660 You know.

04:02:53.860 In the way that you like can't keep your word.

04:02:55.440 You know.

04:02:55.680 If you say you're going to do something.

04:02:56.920 Just do it.

04:02:57.460 Like.

04:02:57.580 Don't say it.

04:02:58.740 Why?

04:02:59.020 Why lie?

04:02:59.920 So.

04:03:02.040 I think one of the biggest red flags for me is when they don't treat service workers.

04:03:08.080 Like waiters with respect.

04:03:09.740 Because that shows how they treat other people and potentially me.

04:03:14.540 That's the first one.

04:03:15.620 The second one is if.

04:03:18.740 Oh God.

04:03:19.560 I just thought of it.

04:03:20.880 And it flew away from me.

04:03:24.140 It's like so many to choose from.

04:03:25.540 I know.

04:03:26.020 Get back to me.

04:03:30.240 I forgot.

04:03:31.780 Okay.

04:03:33.180 Okay.

04:03:33.620 So mine.

04:03:34.660 We're kind of building up.

04:03:36.080 Or building off of other people's.

04:03:37.760 But.

04:03:38.700 Yeah.

04:03:39.020 Like.

04:03:39.500 The basically just like all.

04:03:41.060 Like talk.

04:03:41.760 No action.

04:03:42.600 Like saying like.

04:03:43.380 Oh.

04:03:43.680 Like.

04:03:43.920 Like I was going to do this.

04:03:45.140 Or like.

04:03:45.760 Oh.

04:03:46.240 Like I'm a good person.

04:03:47.300 Or like these are my qualities.

04:03:48.380 But then not actually showing those qualities.

04:03:51.020 That's a huge red flag.

04:03:55.120 Already.

04:03:55.520 I also forgot my other two.

04:03:57.000 Okay.

04:03:57.240 Hold on.

04:03:57.680 I.

04:03:57.980 I remembered mine.

04:03:59.460 If they.

04:04:00.700 Don't like animals.

04:04:01.900 I'm a very big animal person.

04:04:04.880 And also if they don't have a good relationship with their family.

04:04:09.000 Yeah.

04:04:09.460 Okay.

04:04:09.740 So.

04:04:10.080 Yeah.

04:04:10.180 Mine was building off the family.

04:04:11.580 And I'm going to make it more specific.

04:04:12.740 If they're mean to their mom.

04:04:14.280 I think that is a huge red flag.

04:04:16.920 Like so huge.

04:04:18.540 And I've seen that in like guys.

04:04:20.580 And it's just like.

04:04:21.980 Because I think what it comes down to is a lot.

04:04:23.980 Lack of respect for women.

04:04:26.220 And if you can't be nice to your mom.

04:04:28.680 Like you don't have to be a mama's boy.

04:04:30.420 And I honestly don't like mama's boys.

04:04:32.800 But if you can't respect your mom.

04:04:34.520 That's a red flag.

04:04:37.500 I can't remember this one.

04:04:38.740 Um, probably like first one be like.

04:04:42.160 Like if they lie.

04:04:43.180 And that like kind of like encompasses.

04:04:45.080 Like keeping your exes around.

04:04:46.840 Like cheating.

04:04:47.520 All that kind of stuff.

04:04:49.340 Um.

04:04:51.200 If.

04:04:53.120 They aren't Christian.

04:04:56.100 And.

04:04:57.080 Oh.

04:04:57.460 If they have like a victim complex.

04:04:59.800 And they think like.

04:05:00.900 Everything is like an attack on them.

04:05:02.540 And they can't really like stand up for themselves.

04:05:05.740 Based.

04:05:07.360 Pretty much the same.

04:05:08.380 Someone who.

04:05:09.460 Well my husband.

04:05:10.240 Who loves animals.

04:05:11.520 And respect them.

04:05:13.080 Someone who has.

04:05:14.100 Doesn't have a weak personality.

04:05:16.000 And someone who doesn't get along with their parents.

04:05:19.160 Or doesn't treat them with respect.

04:05:20.860 Hmm.

04:05:21.380 Mm-hmm.

04:05:22.940 Uh.

04:05:23.560 Wait.

04:05:23.780 Did we hear from Taylor?

04:05:24.700 Yeah.

04:05:24.940 Oh you went first.

04:05:25.980 Oh okay.

04:05:27.420 Yeah.

04:05:27.580 And then we went around the table.

04:05:28.500 Thanks Brian.

04:05:29.080 Yeah.

04:05:30.860 Well I think it goes without saying.

04:05:32.600 She has to be a Christian.

04:05:33.500 So I'll just take that off the table.

04:05:35.180 If I'm seeing them.

04:05:36.620 Like.

04:05:36.660 I've already figured that out.

04:05:39.060 Um.

04:05:39.720 Uh.

04:05:40.340 First red flag is probably.

04:05:42.140 They have to have high.

04:05:43.880 Um.

04:05:44.900 Uh.

04:05:45.300 Emotional intelligence.

04:05:47.400 Um.

04:05:47.720 And how I define emotional intelligence.

04:05:50.180 Is.

04:05:50.720 I don't know if it's the conventional definition.

04:05:52.760 But it's someone.

04:05:53.440 Someone who can regulate their emotions.

04:05:55.860 Like.

04:05:56.360 From.

04:05:57.120 Uh.

04:05:58.020 Given an external stimulus.

04:06:00.000 Uh.

04:06:00.560 Can they.

04:06:01.360 Like.

04:06:01.960 Suppress their own reaction.

04:06:03.400 To how they're feeling.

04:06:05.260 And.

04:06:06.260 Internalize that.

04:06:07.000 Think about it.

04:06:07.680 And then respond to it.

04:06:09.200 Um.

04:06:09.560 That's extremely important to me.

04:06:11.800 Uh.

04:06:11.980 Whenever I get.

04:06:12.620 If I'm in an argument.

04:06:13.480 With my significant other.

04:06:15.160 I want to be able to.

04:06:16.440 Have a discussion.

04:06:17.420 In adult conversation.

04:06:18.760 I might say something that.

04:06:19.960 Could be hurtful.

04:06:20.760 I'm going to try not to.

04:06:22.080 But I'll probably say something that.

04:06:23.340 Mm-hmm.

04:06:23.540 Is blind.

04:06:24.120 You're not going to want to hear.

04:06:24.980 Killer of cereal.

04:06:26.540 Donated $100.

04:06:28.720 Pick.

04:06:29.340 Six feet.

04:06:30.080 One inch tall.

04:06:31.280 Fit.

04:06:31.900 One hundred and eighty K a year.

04:06:33.820 Ten inches P.

04:06:35.180 Virgin.

04:06:35.740 But has a negative world outlook.

04:06:37.380 And nasty attitude.

04:06:38.700 Or.

04:06:39.080 Five feet.

04:06:39.840 Two inches tall.

04:06:41.260 Fat.

04:06:41.860 Twenty five K a year.

04:06:43.600 Four inches P.

04:06:44.980 High body count.

04:06:46.300 But oozes confidence and swagger.

04:06:48.640 Ladies.

04:06:51.280 Single.

04:06:52.060 Wait.

04:06:52.340 Hold on.

04:06:52.700 Start here.

04:06:53.140 I would think single.

04:06:54.500 Because why.

04:06:56.860 The first guy's rude.

04:06:58.560 And the second guy's what.

04:07:00.940 So okay.

04:07:01.680 Six one.

04:07:03.080 Fit.

04:07:03.640 Hundred.

04:07:04.020 One hundred eighty K a year.

04:07:06.200 Ten inch peen.

04:07:07.400 That's a bit excessive.

04:07:08.380 My dude.

04:07:09.900 Wait.

04:07:10.460 He's a virgin.

04:07:11.380 But has a negative world outlook.

04:07:13.780 Nasty attitude.

04:07:14.500 Or five foot two.

04:07:15.560 Or a guy who's five foot two.

04:07:17.780 Fat.

04:07:18.560 Twenty five K a year.

04:07:19.500 Four inch peen.

04:07:20.700 High body count.

04:07:21.620 What?

04:07:21.940 Bro.

04:07:22.180 What?

04:07:22.660 Oozes confidence and swagger.

04:07:25.060 Which do you pick?

04:07:27.080 Single.

04:07:28.560 Wait.

04:07:29.160 Single.

04:07:30.080 Like you just.

04:07:31.020 Yeah.

04:07:31.160 You got to pick one.

04:07:31.940 Probably the asshole guy.

04:07:33.500 Honestly.

04:07:34.060 One or two.

04:07:34.720 Guys into the mics please.

04:07:35.740 If you can.

04:07:36.040 One.

04:07:37.740 If I had to choose.

04:07:39.580 If I had to choose.

04:07:43.620 One.

04:07:44.660 Just ignore him.

04:07:46.460 Okay.

04:07:47.280 Okay.

04:07:47.560 He has a nasty attitude.

04:07:49.120 That's hard.

04:07:50.140 One.

04:07:52.020 I guess one.

04:07:53.460 One.

04:07:54.040 No one.

04:07:55.160 I'm going one.

04:07:57.380 Why does that even matter though?

04:07:58.460 Why does the pee pee always have to be mentioned?

04:08:00.080 Guys.

04:08:00.460 There's other attributes you guys have besides that.

04:08:02.180 Geez.

04:08:03.360 Maybe funny.

04:08:04.360 Did you want to wrap up?

04:08:05.280 Oh yeah.

04:08:05.620 I'll wrap up.

04:08:06.500 So high emotional intelligence.

04:08:08.240 Friends.

04:08:09.520 She.

04:08:10.420 Oh yeah.

04:08:11.080 She.

04:08:11.720 Can't have any.

04:08:12.900 Male friends.

04:08:14.660 I mean.

04:08:15.240 She can have.

04:08:16.000 Men in her life.

04:08:17.460 But I don't want her trying to develop.

04:08:19.520 Like relationships with other guys.

04:08:21.320 That's a huge no-no to me.

04:08:23.420 I've been burned.

04:08:24.400 Way too many times in the past by that.

04:08:26.960 Yeah.

04:08:28.260 That's not.

04:08:28.940 Not okay.

04:08:29.500 Is that applicable to you too?

04:08:31.800 So like you wouldn't have any.

04:08:32.820 No.

04:08:33.000 Yeah.

04:08:33.060 I have no female friends.

04:08:35.800 Like I have women in my life that I know.

04:08:39.360 But I don't ever like develop relationships with women in my life.

04:08:44.240 Unless I'm interested in them romantically.

04:08:46.680 Do you think it's true that men and women can't be friends?

04:08:49.440 Yeah.

04:08:49.640 I don't think they can be friends.

04:08:50.980 I agree.

04:08:52.040 I think they're biologically created to have something magical happen between them.

04:08:59.700 And they were created that way.

04:09:01.300 And I think it's extremely special.

04:09:03.060 And for us to pretend like that doesn't exist.

04:09:04.880 I think it's kind of like.

04:09:06.680 It's ignoring a whole lot of science.

04:09:08.700 Anybody though?

04:09:09.360 I had a best friend that passed away from an aliving.

04:09:11.500 We never had that connection.

04:09:12.880 Yeah.

04:09:12.980 Yeah.

04:09:13.820 Yeah.

04:09:14.140 So I feel like.

04:09:15.360 Childhood maybe is different.

04:09:16.460 Or like all my friends.

04:09:17.360 Yeah.

04:09:17.520 I mean childhood is extremely different.

04:09:19.840 Yeah.

04:09:20.060 Because like you don't have those hormones going on.

04:09:22.820 I mean we could have that discussion.

04:09:24.600 But I want to keep going.

04:09:25.700 If Brian wants to talk about something else.

04:09:27.000 Well I mean maybe we go around the table their thoughts on.

04:09:29.200 Can men and women be friends.

04:09:30.340 Okay.

04:09:30.580 Yeah.

04:09:30.760 Starting with you.

04:09:31.420 I think it's possible.

04:09:33.440 Okay.

04:09:33.860 They can with certain distance.

04:09:35.320 Scoot in.

04:09:35.840 Like scoot into the table.

04:09:36.980 They can with a certain distance.

04:09:38.480 Yeah.

04:09:39.060 No.

04:09:40.280 I think yes.

04:09:41.480 You just need to establish boundaries.

04:09:43.440 Okay.

04:09:43.620 And be loyal and trusting.

04:09:45.560 Mm-hmm.

04:09:46.180 Yes.

04:09:46.500 With boundaries.

04:09:47.580 Yes.

04:09:48.920 Oh yes.

04:09:50.760 Yeah.

04:09:51.400 Okay.

04:09:51.860 I mean.

04:09:52.180 One follow up actually.

04:09:54.300 Yeah.

04:09:54.460 Go for it.

04:09:56.020 What about people who remain friends with exes?

04:10:00.680 What about that?

04:10:03.440 I don't like it.

04:10:04.600 I mean it might work but I don't like it.

04:10:06.200 No.

04:10:06.960 Hell no baby.

04:10:08.860 It sounds like a recipe for disaster.

04:10:11.880 But I don't know.

04:10:12.780 Maybe it could work out.

04:10:13.540 No.

04:10:14.820 Yeah.

04:10:15.160 No.

04:10:15.360 It's weird.

04:10:16.080 Oh no.

04:10:16.480 They're keeping them for a reason.

04:10:17.860 No.

04:10:18.920 I think you can be on good terms and have an amicable.

04:10:21.540 Exactly.

04:10:22.040 Civil.

04:10:22.580 You can have a good relationship.

04:10:23.840 You can have a good relationship.

04:10:23.860 Contact.

04:10:24.900 Maintain frequent contact.

04:10:27.440 Friend.

04:10:27.760 Like friendship.

04:10:29.020 That's.

04:10:29.420 Well it also depends.

04:10:30.440 You're co-parenting with someone.

04:10:31.900 You still have to have a good.

04:10:32.880 Sure.

04:10:33.260 That's.

04:10:33.620 That's different.

04:10:34.500 That's different.

04:10:35.280 But.

04:10:35.380 If there's not a child involved.

04:10:36.680 Yes.

04:10:36.880 Then it's like.

04:10:37.700 Well it's.

04:10:38.400 A little sus.

04:10:39.240 You wanted to add some.

04:10:40.600 No.

04:10:40.860 Yeah.

04:10:41.180 I wanted to.

04:10:42.160 Like.

04:10:42.680 I don't think.

04:10:43.620 And this is typically.

04:10:44.980 Like I'll get this response from women.

04:10:47.040 They'll say yeah.

04:10:47.760 Of course.

04:10:48.480 Men and women can be friends.

04:10:49.740 Like.

04:10:50.260 Given a certain circumstance.

04:10:52.400 I don't think you understand.

04:10:54.400 Like.

04:10:55.040 The desperation.

04:10:56.400 That a lot of guys.

04:10:57.420 Especially a lot of young guys.

04:10:58.960 Have.

04:10:59.860 Like.

04:11:00.280 They will put up.

04:11:01.620 The craziest act.

04:11:03.320 They will tell you exactly what you want to hear.

04:11:05.580 Just so.

04:11:06.460 That they can keep you in their life.

04:11:08.260 So that when you slip up that one time.

04:11:11.200 They are there to squeeze in the crack.

04:11:13.420 They.

04:11:13.720 They.

04:11:13.840 They like are waiting for your boyfriend to piss you off.

04:11:16.900 They're waiting for that male guy in your.

04:11:18.640 That guy in your life that you've been talking to.

04:11:20.680 To do the one wrong thing.

04:11:22.280 And then just wait for you to make a mistake.

04:11:24.280 Or wait till you're too drunk.

04:11:25.680 And then they will go in for the kill.

04:11:27.500 And I don't think women.

04:11:28.280 The kill.

04:11:29.100 I don't think women understand.

04:11:32.660 Like how.

04:11:34.160 How crazy men can get.

04:11:36.620 Because like.

04:11:37.320 I mean.

04:11:37.660 We have some.

04:11:38.700 Really powerful hormones going through us.

04:11:40.880 Like when we see an attractive woman.

04:11:43.440 It's like.

04:11:44.520 It is a battle.

04:11:45.960 To try to keep myself from.

04:11:48.300 One.

04:11:48.900 Thinking about things I shouldn't be thinking about.

04:11:51.160 But two.

04:11:51.840 Like acting upon those things.

04:11:53.040 I know.

04:11:53.320 Everybody feels like you.

04:11:54.400 Yes.

04:11:54.720 Exactly.

04:11:54.800 Like lusting.

04:11:55.820 So.

04:11:56.120 Can I say something?

04:11:57.100 Yeah.

04:11:57.320 Go for it.

04:11:57.580 I have a question.

04:11:58.420 Because like.

04:11:59.040 If you can tell by the way.

04:12:00.200 Look.

04:12:00.380 I was raised with brothers.

04:12:01.340 So I naturally gravitate towards a lot of guys.

04:12:03.560 And I don't mean that in like.

04:12:04.560 Every single guy friend is single.

04:12:05.780 No.

04:12:05.980 They all have girlfriends.

04:12:07.060 And I'll never hang out with them by myself.

04:12:08.920 None of them come into my house.

04:12:09.920 It's always them and their girlfriend.

04:12:11.100 Because I've known them since I was a kid.

04:12:12.540 And I grew up around parents who had male and female friends.

04:12:14.920 Yeah.

04:12:15.100 So when I look at it.

04:12:15.860 It's a culture.

04:12:16.260 Like Hispanic people.

04:12:16.940 I don't know if you know that.

04:12:17.780 They're all cool with everybody.

04:12:18.940 Very like really nice.

04:12:20.140 Of course boundaries.

04:12:20.940 If a guy told me.

04:12:21.780 Taylor.

04:12:22.060 That guy likes you.

04:12:22.740 I'd probably drop him.

04:12:23.420 I would.

04:12:23.680 Because I don't want any problems.

04:12:25.080 But I feel like.

04:12:25.580 But it doesn't mean that all the men.

04:12:26.940 Some women don't know how to separate the two.

04:12:27.960 And some women won't get rid of their guy friend.

04:12:29.940 If the man knows more.

04:12:31.160 I'll do that.

04:12:31.720 If he says something's right.

04:12:32.880 You know wrong.

04:12:33.400 Excuse me.

04:12:33.480 I think that's awesome.

04:12:34.380 I also think like.

04:12:35.380 Okay.

04:12:35.580 So say.

04:12:36.980 I'm a single dude.

04:12:38.540 And I'm friends with a couple.

04:12:41.100 Like I have.

04:12:41.980 One of my best friends in the world.

04:12:43.380 Is from Tennessee.

04:12:44.960 I knew him when he was single.

04:12:47.520 And I knew him when he met his now wife.

04:12:50.340 Like I hung out with them all the time.

04:12:52.160 And I got to know his now wife really well.

04:12:55.320 But yeah.

04:12:55.760 So it was in the context of them two being there.

04:12:58.380 I have never like texted her by myself.

04:13:01.920 Of course.

04:13:02.180 I've never held a conversation.

04:13:03.960 Just her and I.

04:13:05.280 It's usually.

04:13:05.900 He's always there.

04:13:07.240 Maybe he had to go to the bathroom.

04:13:08.480 And I'm like.

04:13:09.280 Oh.

04:13:09.660 What are your hobbies?

04:13:10.340 Whatever.

04:13:10.720 I don't know.

04:13:11.840 But like.

04:13:12.300 Yeah.

04:13:12.520 I guess.

04:13:12.700 There are boundaries.

04:13:14.200 There are boundaries that I have for myself.

04:13:16.500 I'm not going to push those boundaries with a woman.

04:13:18.340 Of course.

04:13:18.360 And I would expect a woman to do the same for me.

04:13:20.860 Well.

04:13:21.040 You also expect your partner respect you.

04:13:22.780 And you trust him.

04:13:23.560 And you know.

04:13:23.860 He's not going to be filtering with anybody.

04:13:25.880 Well.

04:13:26.680 Kind of going on.

04:13:27.700 On trust.

04:13:28.640 Like.

04:13:29.600 I don't think.

04:13:31.660 That.

04:13:32.420 Like.

04:13:33.140 Having ultimate trust in your partner.

04:13:35.360 Is important in a relationship.

04:13:37.560 I think trust is important.

04:13:39.260 But as a foundation for a relationship.

04:13:41.460 I don't think trust should be held as high as it is.

04:13:44.560 Like.

04:13:45.060 You should just trust me.

04:13:46.460 That I'm not going to hurt you in that way.

04:13:48.900 Because trust is so easily broken.

04:13:51.860 Yes.

04:13:52.060 It only just takes one mistake.

04:13:53.320 I agree.

04:13:54.040 So.

04:13:54.620 I don't think trust is as important as people make it.

04:13:58.240 I think.

04:14:00.580 I mean.

04:14:01.120 It's important.

04:14:01.780 It's important in a relationship.

04:14:03.140 I should be able to trust you.

04:14:04.500 But above trust.

04:14:06.460 In priority.

04:14:07.600 Is I need information.

04:14:09.880 Like.

04:14:10.160 I agree.

04:14:10.520 Let me see who you're talking to.

04:14:12.080 Hey.

04:14:13.240 I'm.

04:14:13.660 I want to know.

04:14:14.920 Like.

04:14:15.160 Are you texting anybody?

04:14:16.100 Can I go through your phone?

04:14:17.140 Like.

04:14:17.360 If I'm in a relationship with somebody.

04:14:19.040 I want to be able to ask that question.

04:14:20.660 And I want them to be able to ask that question of me.

04:14:22.940 Hey.

04:14:23.220 Mason.

04:14:23.540 Can I have your phone?

04:14:24.560 Of course.

04:14:25.120 Here you go.

04:14:26.380 Like.

04:14:26.760 Information is more important than trust.

04:14:29.240 I have a question.

04:14:29.980 So.

04:14:30.180 Earlier you were saying.

04:14:31.000 You're only attracted to 5% of women.

04:14:33.340 So.

04:14:33.560 Like.

04:14:33.640 When you walk into a room.

04:14:35.700 And.

04:14:36.360 You're obese.

04:14:39.040 Now.

04:14:39.400 When you walk into a room.

04:14:41.440 And like.

04:14:42.520 Are you automatically judging.

04:14:44.360 And like.

04:14:44.980 Discounting all these other women.

04:14:46.400 Just based off the way that they look.

04:14:48.000 Like.

04:14:48.280 As in.

04:14:48.920 Like.

04:14:49.120 Seeing them.

04:14:49.660 Like.

04:14:49.860 You will not.

04:14:50.820 Pursue.

04:14:51.680 A personal relationship with them.

04:14:53.220 Because you think you can't.

04:14:54.560 Be friends with them.

04:14:56.280 I mean.

04:14:56.780 If you want to put it in that language.

04:14:58.720 Yeah.

04:14:58.960 I guess I could get on board with that statement.

04:15:01.680 I mean.

04:15:02.960 I'm not saying like.

04:15:04.320 You value.

04:15:04.840 Like.

04:15:05.120 Your value as a human being is less.

04:15:06.700 Yeah.

04:15:06.940 Right.

04:15:07.160 Because.

04:15:07.500 Yeah.

04:15:07.680 Yeah.

04:15:07.960 Like.

04:15:08.200 If we're just talking about.

04:15:10.180 Like.

04:15:10.700 Romantic partners.

04:15:11.860 Yeah.

04:15:12.000 If I walk into a room.

04:15:13.000 I'm probably going to find 5% of them attractive.

04:15:15.440 And I'm probably not going to pursue a relationship with the rest of them.

04:15:18.280 Because.

04:15:18.980 I'm not interested in them romantically.

04:15:21.220 Yeah.

04:15:21.360 I'm not going to entertain that kind of relationship.

04:15:23.700 Because I don't.

04:15:24.360 I don't want to lead them on.

04:15:26.100 Because.

04:15:26.680 I'm not.

04:15:27.340 I mean.

04:15:27.620 This is going to sound kind of.

04:15:29.620 Egotistical.

04:15:30.140 But I'm not.

04:15:30.740 I'm not blind to the fact that I'm somewhat attractive.

04:15:33.260 So.

04:15:33.660 I don't want to lead other girls on.

04:15:35.140 Making them think that.

04:15:36.320 Hey.

04:15:36.480 I got a shot with Mason.

04:15:37.720 Yeah.

04:15:37.940 And like.

04:15:38.980 It's mean to them.

04:15:39.820 It's rude.

04:15:40.480 It's just uncaring.

04:15:41.480 It's selfish.

04:15:41.840 Because like.

04:15:42.740 I could be like.

04:15:43.500 I could talk to a bunch of different girls.

04:15:45.120 And get all this attention.

04:15:46.580 And.

04:15:47.540 I'm not that kind of guy.

04:15:48.820 And that's just like.

04:15:49.560 All on the basis that like.

04:15:50.700 You don't think like.

04:15:51.620 Men and women can be.

04:15:52.660 Correct.

04:15:53.100 Killer of cereal.

04:15:54.100 Killer of cereal donated $100.

04:15:56.820 I wanted to apologize to Gygackard Virgin for cutting him off.

04:16:00.720 Did not time that right.

04:16:02.420 If you became great friends with one of your ex's friends.

04:16:05.860 But the breakup was bad.

04:16:07.460 How would you feel about it?

04:16:09.340 Okay wait.

04:16:10.980 Is that for everyone?

04:16:11.380 If you became great friends with one of your ex's friends.

04:16:14.160 But the breakup was bad.

04:16:15.800 How would you feel about it?

04:16:19.940 Ooh.

04:16:20.420 I mean.

04:16:20.800 I would probably still maintain the friendship.

04:16:22.820 Like.

04:16:23.000 That's if the ex's friend was a dude.

04:16:28.460 Like.

04:16:28.780 I probably would maintain that relationship.

04:16:30.920 I mean.

04:16:31.300 If he's a cool guy.

04:16:32.420 And he's not like.

04:16:33.560 It's not awkward.

04:16:34.380 I'm not going to be talking to his ex.

04:16:36.380 Yeah.

04:16:36.660 I would totally maintain that relationship.

04:16:37.320 Wait.

04:16:37.600 Is the ex.

04:16:38.460 Is the friend of male or female?

04:16:40.520 I think.

04:16:41.460 The friend is male.

04:16:42.900 I want to assume it's male.

04:16:44.120 The ex's friend.

04:16:44.500 The ex's friend.

04:16:45.840 My ex's friend is male.

04:16:49.480 And I say like.

04:16:50.820 He didn't specify.

04:16:51.620 I don't know.

04:16:52.000 What if it's like a brother?

04:16:53.780 Like a brother.

04:16:54.960 Like I feel like that would make more sense.

04:16:56.540 Because it seems like.

04:16:57.220 Yeah.

04:16:57.240 It would be fun.

04:16:58.280 Sure.

04:16:58.640 Yeah.

04:16:58.860 It would be fun to.

04:16:59.560 Steal the brother away.

04:17:00.500 Heck yeah dude.

04:17:01.820 You got another brother.

04:17:02.320 That's my brother now.

04:17:03.340 Yeah.

04:17:03.540 Exactly.

04:17:04.320 What's that from that.

04:17:05.760 We mentioned it last show.

04:17:07.500 The movie with Tom Hanks.

04:17:09.260 Where it's like.

04:17:10.600 This is.

04:17:11.020 I'm the captain now.

04:17:12.400 Oh.

04:17:12.740 Captain Phillips.

04:17:13.460 Captain Phillips.

04:17:13.860 What does he say?

04:17:15.100 I'm the captain now.

04:17:16.520 I don't know.

04:17:16.920 That's what he says.

04:17:17.620 Yeah.

04:17:18.340 It's my brother now.

04:17:19.420 Okay.

04:17:19.620 I don't know.

04:17:21.160 Actually.

04:17:21.520 One thing that crossed my mind.

04:17:22.920 On the.

04:17:24.240 The staying friends.

04:17:25.740 With the ex.

04:17:27.060 Or whatever.

04:17:28.200 Or can men and women be friends.

04:17:30.440 Maybe.

04:17:31.240 This is sort of a.

04:17:32.700 Differential.

04:17:33.220 When it comes to the.

04:17:34.240 Two genders.

04:17:35.680 And why men maybe care more.

04:17:38.320 Than women do.

04:17:39.260 About.

04:17:40.340 If she has male friends.

04:17:42.520 So.

04:17:43.460 Women will friend zone men.

04:17:45.860 But it's pretty rare.

04:17:47.300 For like.

04:17:48.480 Dudes to be friend zoning chicks.

04:17:50.140 It happens.

04:17:51.360 But it's much more.

04:17:52.400 Like a common occurrence.

04:17:53.500 For women to like.

04:17:54.860 Friend zone dudes.

04:17:55.720 So dudes who.

04:17:56.240 I agree.

04:17:56.980 Who initially.

04:17:57.780 Had a romantic interest.

04:17:59.780 But you're.

04:18:00.620 As the woman.

04:18:01.060 You're pumping the brakes.

04:18:01.940 No.

04:18:02.120 No.

04:18:02.180 No.

04:18:02.980 We can be friends though.

04:18:04.280 And sometimes.

04:18:04.800 Actual friendships.

04:18:05.860 Develop from that.

04:18:07.840 That's.

04:18:08.480 I think.

04:18:08.820 Perhaps.

04:18:09.280 An angle of.

04:18:09.980 Why this might be a bigger deal.

04:18:11.780 For men.

04:18:12.820 Than this for women.

04:18:13.700 Because as I said.

04:18:14.900 Men are really not like.

04:18:16.940 Rejecting women on that level.

04:18:18.700 Typically.

04:18:19.420 There's a couple reasons.

04:18:20.520 But.

04:18:21.340 Women are not.

04:18:23.740 Women are typically not.

04:18:25.120 Taking the initiative.

04:18:26.540 To like.

04:18:27.620 Push on men like that.

04:18:29.000 Showing their interests like that.

04:18:30.120 Do you guys think that.

04:18:31.160 All men that are friends with women.

04:18:32.500 Are just like.

04:18:33.160 Using them.

04:18:33.740 Or like.

04:18:34.360 They just all get friend zoned.

04:18:35.520 Or do you actually.

04:18:36.200 Believe there's some men.

04:18:36.900 Who actually value women as a friend.

04:18:39.020 No I think.

04:18:39.440 That makes me wonder.

04:18:40.080 If I have guy friends.

04:18:40.820 A guy's looking at that.

04:18:41.660 Like she friend zoned him.

04:18:42.680 I've been single with my guy friends for years.

04:18:44.560 And they're now in relationships.

04:18:45.900 And nothing's ever happened.

04:18:47.680 I don't.

04:18:48.040 I don't know.

04:18:48.300 And I don't find myself that attractive.

04:18:49.540 To where every guy wants me.

04:18:50.900 I don't think like that.

04:18:52.100 I think.

04:18:52.440 I think you have to be attractive.

04:18:53.500 For that type of stuff.

04:18:54.500 I think it's possible.

04:18:56.880 I think it's easier for women.

04:18:58.660 To be friends with men.

04:19:00.040 Than the reverse.

04:19:01.380 Okay.

04:19:01.820 I think men are much more likely.

04:19:03.300 To have ulterior motives.

04:19:05.720 When it comes to like.

04:19:07.000 Male female friendship.

04:19:08.840 One of my issues with.

04:19:10.760 With the friendship.

04:19:12.200 Is when you inevitably find yourself.

04:19:14.620 In a relationship.

04:19:16.640 There's a decent chance.

04:19:18.340 Look some partners don't care.

04:19:20.420 But if your partner.

04:19:22.560 Asserts their boundary.

04:19:24.260 That of.

04:19:25.720 I don't want you to be.

04:19:26.660 Hanging out with.

04:19:28.720 Friends of the opposite sex.

04:19:30.480 That's going to be the end.

04:19:31.860 Of that friendship.

04:19:32.640 If they're.

04:19:33.720 Going to ultimately choose.

04:19:35.260 This romantic relationship.

04:19:37.120 Over you.

04:19:37.780 And just the reality is.

04:19:38.880 Like most people are going to.

04:19:40.680 Probably going to.

04:19:41.760 You know.

04:19:42.020 If they care about that person enough.

04:19:43.480 Are going to prioritize.

04:19:44.240 Their romantic relationship.

04:19:45.900 Over their platonic.

04:19:47.700 Relationship.

04:19:48.340 And certainly.

04:19:49.000 In the case of marriage.

04:19:50.880 I do think there is.

04:19:52.120 Some degree of.

04:19:54.080 Shit.

04:19:54.500 What's the word.

04:19:56.360 I'm blanking on it.

04:19:57.320 Right now.

04:19:57.800 But.

04:19:58.680 Fuck.

04:19:59.140 What's.

04:19:59.320 It doesn't look good.

04:20:03.200 Like in a marriage context.

04:20:04.960 If you're like.

04:20:06.400 Hanging out.

04:20:07.160 With a male friend.

04:20:09.120 I don't know.

04:20:09.700 That's.

04:20:10.140 I can't.

04:20:10.820 Blanking on the word.

04:20:12.020 But.

04:20:13.160 The optics.

04:20:15.580 That's not exactly.

04:20:16.600 What I'm looking for.

04:20:17.360 But yeah.

04:20:17.960 Basically.

04:20:19.020 So.

04:20:20.440 Yeah.

04:20:21.180 I think it's interesting.

04:20:22.080 What you're saying.

04:20:22.700 Because like.

04:20:23.700 That like.

04:20:24.300 Whole reason of like.

04:20:25.320 Entertaining other people.

04:20:26.660 Or like.

04:20:27.200 Other like.

04:20:27.620 Friends per se.

04:20:28.840 Is like.

04:20:29.060 The reason why my.

04:20:30.000 Last relationship ended.

04:20:31.580 Twice.

04:20:32.420 Like the first time like.

04:20:34.620 He was still talking to this girl.

04:20:36.140 That he had met on Bumble.

04:20:38.200 And like.

04:20:39.880 I like the whole relationship.

04:20:41.440 Like.

04:20:41.760 Was always wary of this girl.

04:20:43.760 And then like.

04:20:44.640 Basically.

04:20:45.060 I went through his phone.

04:20:46.380 And like.

04:20:47.640 Found some stuff.

04:20:49.400 Nudes.

04:20:51.100 Yeah.

04:20:51.980 Yeah.

04:20:52.820 And.

04:20:53.160 Of course.

04:20:54.540 So then relationship ended after that.

04:20:57.120 Went no comment.

04:20:57.620 Contact started talking again.

04:20:58.620 Started dating again.

04:20:59.940 Same thing happened with another girl.

04:21:01.640 And I like.

04:21:02.020 Knew exactly who this girl was.

04:21:03.280 It was like this girl.

04:21:04.020 He used to like.

04:21:05.640 Hook up with.

04:21:06.480 I guess.

04:21:07.140 And.

04:21:08.000 Yeah.

04:21:08.600 So.

04:21:10.040 Yeah.

04:21:10.420 I mean.

04:21:10.800 Because.

04:21:11.520 Also.

04:21:12.100 You have to think about it.

04:21:13.040 Like.

04:21:13.240 If you're pursuing.

04:21:14.300 Let's say you genuinely are pursuing.

04:21:16.340 A friendship with.

04:21:17.980 Someone of the opposite sex.

04:21:20.000 Like.

04:21:20.540 That is a sort of.

04:21:21.800 Could be a transitory.

04:21:25.960 Or volatile.

04:21:27.460 Friendship.

04:21:28.380 Because.

04:21:30.120 If they get into a relationship.

04:21:31.740 With somebody.

04:21:32.520 Who has this boundary of.

04:21:34.060 I don't want you.

04:21:35.240 Talking to this person.

04:21:36.320 I don't want you to be friends with this person.

04:21:38.240 Poof.

04:21:38.680 There goes your friendship.

04:21:39.920 So it's almost kind of like.

04:21:41.400 Well.

04:21:41.720 What's the point.

04:21:43.360 Of getting into this friendship.

04:21:44.700 If.

04:21:46.080 Whenever this person ends up.

04:21:47.880 In a romantic relationship.

04:21:49.060 Our friendship.

04:21:50.000 Is at risk.

04:21:51.020 Of getting cut.

04:21:52.420 Because of the.

04:21:54.100 Expectations.

04:21:54.660 Of their potential future partner.

04:21:56.380 That's.

04:21:56.780 Yeah.

04:21:57.720 And so.

04:21:59.100 I mean.

04:21:59.560 Especially with.

04:22:00.840 You know.

04:22:01.060 In marriage.

04:22:01.960 If you're.

04:22:02.500 I mean.

04:22:02.620 Especially if you're.

04:22:03.420 Like attracted to a man's man.

04:22:05.520 Like.

04:22:06.100 Traditional men.

04:22:07.700 Are generally speaking.

04:22:09.020 Extremely territorial.

04:22:10.340 And they're not going to want.

04:22:11.700 Another guy stepping on their woman.

04:22:13.940 So like.

04:22:15.420 Stepping.

04:22:16.280 Stepping to.

04:22:16.940 Stepping.

04:22:17.520 Stepping to.

04:22:18.340 Stepping to.

04:22:18.940 Stepping on.

04:22:19.500 Stepping to.

04:22:20.200 Stepping to.

04:22:21.000 Yeah.

04:22:21.520 Okay.

04:22:22.060 But.

04:22:22.440 Yeah.

04:22:22.680 I think that's like.

04:22:24.100 If that's what you're into.

04:22:25.600 That's probably something.

04:22:27.180 Like a practice you should adopt.

04:22:28.880 Because you will attract.

04:22:29.640 More of those masculine guys.

04:22:31.660 If you have that boundary.

04:22:33.180 I mean.

04:22:33.660 It could be difficult.

04:22:34.500 Especially.

04:22:35.060 Like initially.

04:22:36.420 Instituting that boundary.

04:22:37.600 But it will probably give you a lot of.

04:22:40.080 Really good success.

04:22:41.480 Down the road.

04:22:42.500 I got some red flags here.

04:22:44.080 I want you guys to weigh in.

04:22:46.800 If you hear anything.

04:22:47.660 You object to.

04:22:49.820 I need you to weigh in.

04:22:51.560 All right.

04:22:52.220 I got a bunch here.

04:22:54.660 Oh God.

04:22:55.280 I'm going to get the hate.

04:22:57.580 Pitbull owner.

04:22:59.060 Red flag.

04:23:00.300 Absolutely.

04:23:00.920 I'm a pitbull.

04:23:02.360 What about cats?

04:23:04.160 Pitbull owner.

04:23:04.900 Red flag.

04:23:05.500 I love dogs.

04:23:06.320 What about cats?

04:23:07.120 Dang.

04:23:08.220 Well.

04:23:08.740 And also.

04:23:10.620 Okay.

04:23:11.100 I love dogs.

04:23:12.420 Big dog fan.

04:23:14.060 Moving off from the pitbull thing though.

04:23:16.680 I do think.

04:23:18.880 I don't know if it's a red flag.

04:23:20.700 But it like adds a level of complication to our relationship.

04:23:25.120 Which I guess would be a red flag.

04:23:26.700 If you own a pitbull?

04:23:27.420 No.

04:23:28.780 No.

04:23:29.340 Well.

04:23:29.700 That's a different thing.

04:23:31.120 Is.

04:23:31.580 I've probably pissed off all the pitbull owners here.

04:23:33.960 I do think if she owns a dog.

04:23:36.060 It complicates the.

04:23:37.480 I love dogs.

04:23:38.800 Love dogs.

04:23:39.980 It complicates the fucking relationship.

04:23:43.100 I can't tell you how many.

04:23:45.500 How many like.

04:23:47.200 Bro.

04:23:47.380 They want to bring their dog with them.

04:23:49.700 And it just like.

04:23:50.820 Get.

04:23:51.500 Again.

04:23:51.880 I love dogs.

04:23:53.920 But.

04:23:54.740 I want to.

04:23:55.640 Okay.

04:23:56.280 Clarify.

04:23:57.440 Yes.

04:23:58.180 It's kind of similar.

04:24:00.500 To women who.

04:24:02.960 Who are single moms.

04:24:04.200 A little bit.

04:24:05.220 Not as.

04:24:05.860 Not to the degree.

04:24:06.440 I knew you were about to say that.

04:24:07.520 Not to the degree.

04:24:08.500 Look.

04:24:08.680 It's almost like the dog's liability.

04:24:10.060 You have to take care of the dog.

04:24:11.540 You know.

04:24:11.640 Hear me out.

04:24:12.400 They're busier.

04:24:13.480 They have less free time.

04:24:15.520 They're more likely to flake and cancel on plans.

04:24:18.880 Like.

04:24:19.100 And I've attempted.

04:24:20.680 A couple times.

04:24:22.140 To like.

04:24:22.620 Okay.

04:24:23.340 Let's see how this goes.

04:24:24.520 With single moms.

04:24:25.920 Maybe this is anecdotal.

04:24:27.980 Every single time.

04:24:29.660 I've like.

04:24:30.300 Tried to coordinate.

04:24:31.300 A first date.

04:24:32.060 With a.

04:24:32.300 With a.

04:24:33.000 Single mom.

04:24:34.120 This is.

04:24:34.800 It's only.

04:24:35.480 I tend to avoid it.

04:24:36.820 No offense to single moms out there.

04:24:39.500 Every time bro.

04:24:40.820 An hour before the date.

04:24:42.420 They flake.

04:24:43.160 It's like.

04:24:44.340 That's an issue for me.

04:24:45.940 Because punctuality.

04:24:47.520 Sticking to plans.

04:24:48.400 Commitments.

04:24:49.060 Very important.

04:24:50.640 And I get it.

04:24:51.580 Your kid comes first.

04:24:52.960 A hundred percent.

04:24:54.160 Doesn't mean I have to deal with it though.

04:24:57.720 And like.

04:24:58.420 She's got to.

04:24:59.000 But bringing it back to the dogs.

04:25:00.700 She's got to bring the dog everywhere.

04:25:02.380 Wait.

04:25:02.400 Why pit bull specifically?

04:25:03.900 No.

04:25:04.040 Well that's different.

04:25:05.120 I just kind of have like a.

04:25:07.260 I'm kind of.

04:25:08.280 You're like racist towards pit bulls?

04:25:09.160 Yeah I'm racist towards pit bulls.

04:25:10.480 He's racist towards pit bulls.

04:25:11.480 But then there's like a preference for no dogs.

04:25:13.960 There's a general.

04:25:15.160 There's a.

04:25:15.540 Immediately.

04:25:16.280 I love.

04:25:16.680 I love dogs.

04:25:17.760 Fucking love dogs.

04:25:19.400 Yes.

04:25:19.680 But to date.

04:25:20.460 It presents.

04:25:21.780 Extra complications.

04:25:23.720 To dating you.

04:25:24.700 Especially if you got to bring the dog with you.

04:25:27.280 And then like.

04:25:27.960 What if we want to get frisky.

04:25:29.600 And fucking.

04:25:30.680 Fido's in the corner.

04:25:32.220 Jumps up on the bed.

04:25:33.200 One time I had a chihuahua.

04:25:34.780 Like fucking.

04:25:35.700 Try to get it.

04:25:36.520 At me bro.

04:25:37.900 While we were having.

04:25:40.120 I don't know.

04:25:40.680 I mean really.

04:25:41.400 The dog came into the room.

04:25:42.980 I feel like the dog is way.

04:25:44.800 Way.

04:25:45.200 I mean obviously.

04:25:46.060 So different.

04:25:46.800 You know.

04:25:47.040 Way easier than a kid.

04:25:48.260 But.

04:25:48.440 Yeah.

04:25:48.560 I mean like.

04:25:49.020 You can always leave the dog at home.

04:25:51.120 For like.

04:25:51.700 Bro.

04:25:52.460 The whole.

04:25:53.160 They never leave the dog at home.

04:25:55.900 I understand what you're saying.

04:25:56.940 Even if they do.

04:25:57.860 Like the plans are still like.

04:25:59.120 Centric to like the dog.

04:26:00.680 Like you can only leave the dog alone.

04:26:01.820 For like what.

04:26:02.280 Four or five hours.

04:26:03.200 Just like.

04:26:03.820 Even then they're like.

04:26:04.920 Oh I can't.

04:26:05.500 And then.

04:26:06.140 If they don't have housemates.

04:26:07.940 Yeah.

04:26:08.080 Then they gotta pay for a thing.

04:26:09.980 A sitter.

04:26:10.900 Whatever.

04:26:11.980 And again.

04:26:12.600 I love dogs.

04:26:13.520 But like.

04:26:14.160 It complicates.

04:26:15.320 It's more complicated.

04:26:16.660 Than just dating a woman.

04:26:18.140 Who doesn't have a dog.

04:26:20.660 So.

04:26:22.940 Also.

04:26:23.840 No offense.

04:26:26.680 No offense.

04:26:27.940 I do think.

04:26:28.720 And we see this with children too.

04:26:30.340 I think men.

04:26:31.400 When it comes to raising children.

04:26:32.740 And I think this extends to.

04:26:34.800 Pets and dogs.

04:26:36.120 Men are disciplinarians.

04:26:38.300 And I've.

04:26:39.880 I don't know if you be training your dogs that much.

04:26:43.860 Is that sexist to say?

04:26:45.160 I don't know bro.

04:26:45.800 I don't think so.

04:26:46.160 A lot of people.

04:26:47.200 Both men and women.

04:26:48.680 Don't train their fucking dogs.

04:26:50.780 They're terrible on a leash.

04:26:52.300 They're not obedient.

04:26:53.660 That's my pet peeve.

04:26:54.660 And like.

04:26:54.700 I've had too many.

04:26:55.640 Like.

04:26:55.820 I'll tell a girl.

04:26:57.220 Like.

04:26:57.820 I don't want the dog.

04:26:59.000 Jumping on furniture.

04:27:00.260 And jumping on a bed.

04:27:01.380 Which is.

04:27:01.860 In my view.

04:27:03.380 If you want to be a responsible dog owner.

04:27:05.440 You train.

04:27:06.380 From a.

04:27:06.880 Very early on.

04:27:08.380 Yes.

04:27:08.940 Your dog shouldn't be jumping on furniture.

04:27:11.620 Training.

04:27:12.320 If your dog doesn't listen to your commands.

04:27:15.060 That's not a trained dog.

04:27:16.760 And so they'll come over.

04:27:18.320 And the dog is fucking.

04:27:20.440 Well.

04:27:20.960 Feral.

04:27:22.760 Wild dude.

04:27:23.740 But that dog doesn't listen.

04:27:24.620 Like jumping on the bed.

04:27:25.440 Doesn't listen.

04:27:27.560 I don't want that.

04:27:29.140 Yeah.

04:27:29.560 Well.

04:27:29.900 I don't want that.

04:27:31.160 Not everybody should be allowed to own dogs.

04:27:33.220 So their dogs misbehave.

04:27:35.400 Urinate.

04:27:36.020 I don't want.

04:27:36.380 I got to clean up.

04:27:37.800 Urinate's inside.

04:27:38.640 It's not even potty trained.

04:27:40.480 Jumping on you.

04:27:41.300 Barking.

04:27:41.840 Whining.

04:27:42.340 Jumping on furniture.

04:27:43.720 Peeing.

04:27:44.160 Pooping.

04:27:44.800 The woman?

04:27:45.460 Destructively.

04:27:46.520 Yes.

04:27:48.360 Yes.

04:27:49.020 That was a good one.

04:27:50.560 No.

04:27:51.000 That was a good one.

04:27:51.640 Actually.

04:27:52.060 We had this funny.

04:27:53.080 I didn't share this anecdote when it happened.

04:27:55.040 But Nick was there.

04:27:55.720 I think.

04:27:56.400 Gustavo.

04:27:56.900 Were you there?

04:27:57.640 We had this woman.

04:27:59.200 We had her scheduled on the show.

04:28:01.120 And she brought what she claimed was a service animal.

04:28:07.100 Typically service animals are well behaved and well trained.

04:28:11.360 And she tried to like Madison dealt with it.

04:28:13.800 But she was trying to make this whole like.

04:28:16.020 I thought she was going to sue us or some shit.

04:28:17.560 Because we're like yo we got expensive camera equipment in here.

04:28:20.160 We can't.

04:28:20.840 We got like.

04:28:23.620 We can't accommodate.

04:28:24.800 We can't accommodate your service.

04:28:27.200 I don't think it was a service animal.

04:28:28.620 Well the main thing was the dog was barking.

04:28:31.020 Yeah.

04:28:31.400 They didn't do that.

04:28:32.080 Barking.

04:28:32.500 They're not supposed to do that.

04:28:33.360 Not supposed to do that.

04:28:34.220 And I'm like well we're running a podcast.

04:28:36.140 It's not a reasonable accommodation.

04:28:37.300 If we're trying to get good audio.

04:28:39.760 To have your dog barking in the background.

04:28:42.340 And he was barking anyways.

04:28:44.420 So you know.

04:28:45.940 It's just.

04:28:47.040 Again.

04:28:47.580 Love dogs.

04:28:49.100 It just complicates things.

04:28:50.660 Too many times.

04:28:51.640 It's like well can I bring my dog with me.

04:28:53.440 Oh I don't know if I can come over.

04:28:54.680 Because my God.

04:28:55.360 Take care of my dog.

04:28:56.320 I thought you were going to say the woman ended up peeing on the ground.

04:29:00.800 I'm not into that.

04:29:04.100 I'm not going to kink shame though.

04:29:05.560 If that's what some people are into.

04:29:07.660 That thing.

04:29:08.480 Okay.

04:29:09.080 Let me.

04:29:09.400 More red flags here.

04:29:10.500 Hold on.

04:29:11.260 Oh.

04:29:12.060 Bell bottoms.

04:29:13.240 Major red flag.

04:29:14.860 100%.

04:29:15.740 I agree.

04:29:16.640 Wait what's that?

04:29:17.100 I'm with that.

04:29:17.800 Bell bottom jeans?

04:29:18.940 Bell bottoms.

04:29:19.660 Yeah.

04:29:20.000 If they wear bell bottoms.

04:29:20.880 Oh I wear them all the time.

04:29:22.140 Yeah.

04:29:22.940 Do you like skinny jeans instead?

04:29:24.340 Or what's your perfect?

04:29:25.120 Just a red flag.

04:29:25.920 I don't know.

04:29:26.320 Oh I see.

04:29:27.100 I can't even explain that shit.

04:29:29.100 Oh she looks at her phone.

04:29:31.220 First date.

04:29:33.840 That's.

04:29:34.300 I agree.

04:29:35.040 Yeah.

04:29:35.600 I'll maybe say something.

04:29:37.020 I'll give her a little leeway.

04:29:39.460 I'll be like oh it's something important or.

04:29:41.940 You just have to check something real quick.

04:29:42.840 You got it.

04:29:43.400 But if she's like.

04:29:44.760 If she's on Snapchat.

04:29:46.340 Yeah.

04:29:46.800 I'm just leaving.

04:29:48.080 I'll just get up.

04:29:49.460 It's super rude.

04:29:50.300 Super rude.

04:29:50.840 I had that.

04:29:51.660 I had that.

04:29:52.860 And I was like.

04:29:53.480 Did you pay for the date?

04:29:54.780 Nah.

04:29:55.260 Oh good.

04:29:55.580 I wouldn't have been.

04:29:56.160 Because she did that.

04:29:57.260 Because she did that.

04:29:58.140 I'm like.

04:29:58.920 Not happening.

04:29:59.800 Okay.

04:30:00.780 All right.

04:30:01.700 Let's see what else.

04:30:03.720 Oh acro yoga.

04:30:04.920 Such a fucking red flag bro.

04:30:06.540 Oh yeah.

04:30:07.840 What?

04:30:08.640 Acro yoga.

04:30:09.560 Have you seen those?

04:30:10.240 Yes.

04:30:10.480 Is it the acro yoga?

04:30:11.620 With the dudes?

04:30:12.480 Bro.

04:30:12.920 You know why the dudes are doing that.

04:30:14.440 Dude.

04:30:14.580 You know why.

04:30:15.860 What is it?

04:30:16.280 And like a guy's like.

04:30:17.160 Oh yeah.

04:30:17.780 It's like a.

04:30:18.760 So it's like acrobatic yoga.

04:30:20.880 The guy's laying down.

04:30:22.280 It's kind of like a.

04:30:23.260 You know like the.

04:30:23.700 And like flipping you with his feet.

04:30:24.240 Male female cheerleader dynamic.

04:30:26.180 What if they're with another woman?

04:30:27.040 It's really similar to that.

04:30:28.240 So it's like.

04:30:29.320 Yeah.

04:30:29.480 They're doing these weird poses.

04:30:30.580 Where like.

04:30:31.200 She'll put her hands on his hips.

04:30:33.340 And like.

04:30:33.840 He'll hold her up.

04:30:34.520 Yeah.

04:30:34.680 That's valid.

04:30:35.880 That's valid.

04:30:36.720 It's extremely physical.

04:30:38.100 And you know.

04:30:38.860 You really know why he's doing it.

04:30:40.760 What about judo?

04:30:41.740 Because then you get physical.

04:30:42.920 That's a fair point actually.

04:30:44.740 Like MMA.

04:30:45.760 Men don't like that.

04:30:46.400 Jiu jitsu.

04:30:47.180 I actually.

04:30:47.880 So I practice jiu jitsu.

04:30:49.600 And I will not roll with a chick.

04:30:51.920 Oh.

04:30:52.180 Just because.

04:30:53.100 Yeah.

04:30:53.280 You can really hit them too.

04:30:54.940 Yeah.

04:30:55.660 Well I mean.

04:30:56.100 For me it's a little different.

04:30:57.000 I'm a 220 pound man.

04:30:59.960 And there aren't too many.

04:31:01.420 I don't want to.

04:31:01.700 I don't want to play fight you.

04:31:04.120 Yeah.

04:31:04.460 No.

04:31:04.840 No.

04:31:05.340 Let's see.

04:31:06.000 What else?

04:31:06.440 Oh.

04:31:06.660 She posts more than three Instagram stories a day.

04:31:09.100 I don't even use Instagram.

04:31:10.560 Many girls.

04:31:12.120 Millennial.

04:31:12.560 Red flag.

04:31:13.460 Sorry ladies.

04:31:14.220 She's a van lifer.

04:31:16.340 She's a what?

04:31:17.340 She's a van lifer.

04:31:18.620 Ooh.

04:31:18.820 Van lifer.

04:31:19.260 Van lifer.

04:31:19.280 Van lifer.

04:31:19.300 Van lifer.

04:31:19.580 Van lifer.

04:31:19.980 Van lifer.

04:31:20.320 If she's a van lifer that's.

04:31:21.780 What does that mean?

04:31:22.880 304.

04:31:23.900 Oh.

04:31:24.500 Area code.

04:31:25.140 Area code for sure.

04:31:26.260 For sure.

04:31:26.780 Yeah.

04:31:27.020 For sure.

04:31:27.200 Right chat.

04:31:28.000 Yo chat.

04:31:28.520 Is it a red flag if she's one of the van lifer people?

04:31:31.180 I think it's a red flag.

04:31:32.520 Here's why.

04:31:33.360 She's like.

04:31:34.320 Because if you see a girl on a dating app.

04:31:37.040 Who's a van lifer.

04:31:38.540 She's like traveling.

04:31:39.900 Excuse me.

04:31:40.220 She's traveling around.

04:31:41.200 And I've matched with like van life chicks.

04:31:45.700 And they're like hooking up with dudes to use their shower.

04:31:48.540 Like it's weird.

04:31:50.180 Oh jeez.

04:31:50.860 It's not weird.

04:31:51.600 But I'm like thinking like.

04:31:53.000 Bro.

04:31:53.200 She hooks up with a bunch of dudes to like.

04:31:55.260 Have a place to.

04:31:56.500 A normal place to crash for a fucking night.

04:31:59.300 Shower.

04:31:59.920 Whatever.

04:32:00.620 You can go to Planet Fitness or a gym for that.

04:32:02.280 You could.

04:32:02.560 No.

04:32:02.820 That's what I would do.

04:32:03.800 That's what you.

04:32:04.480 But.

04:32:04.940 You don't want to do it with people for a shower.

04:32:06.580 I'll see the van lifers on dating apps.

04:32:08.360 They're in town for two weeks.

04:32:09.720 I'm like they are.

04:32:12.060 If they must be running through.

04:32:14.500 Yeah.

04:32:14.780 Running through.

04:32:15.820 Let's see.

04:32:16.560 What else?

04:32:18.480 Career.

04:32:19.440 Hairstylist.

04:32:20.480 Works in HR.

04:32:21.640 Flight attendant.

04:32:22.640 Travel nurse.

04:32:23.600 I'm a hater.

04:32:24.900 Any career where there's a lot of frequent travel.

04:32:27.400 How about engineer?

04:32:28.020 Engineer.

04:32:30.580 That's fine.

04:32:31.320 That's what I'm going to do.

04:32:32.040 Green flag.

04:32:32.520 That's fine.

04:32:33.280 Yeah.

04:32:33.780 Engineer's good.

04:32:35.080 Green flag.

04:32:35.960 Yeah.

04:32:36.280 Green flag.

04:32:36.800 Yeah.

04:32:37.700 Any pushback from anybody?

04:32:39.240 I've just pissed off like half the population.

04:32:41.400 Wait.

04:32:41.620 I'm still confused about the pit bull one.

04:32:42.960 I thought I saw some statistics on this actually.

04:32:44.000 About the what?

04:32:44.020 The pit bull one.

04:32:44.860 The pit bull one?

04:32:45.600 Yeah.

04:32:46.420 Oh well.

04:32:48.540 It's like.

04:32:50.160 They want to be victims.

04:32:52.260 Like it's like.

04:32:53.100 Oh I understand.

04:32:54.420 They're like.

04:32:56.000 Nobody advocates for any other dog breed.

04:32:58.880 To this fucking insane extent.

04:33:01.640 Besides pit bulls.

04:33:02.960 Okay.

04:33:03.600 Maybe chihuahuas.

04:33:04.940 But not even.

04:33:06.560 Victim complex.

04:33:07.380 It's like this weird.

04:33:08.880 I don't know.

04:33:09.680 It's like this performative virtue signal.

04:33:13.380 They like baby them a lot too.

04:33:14.700 Like they're like.

04:33:15.620 Look the reality is.

04:33:18.180 The vast majority of injuries caused by.

04:33:23.000 Dogs.

04:33:23.900 The breed is the pit bull.

04:33:25.160 The vast majority of deaths caused by dogs.

04:33:27.920 Pit bulls.

04:33:30.560 I don't.

04:33:31.440 I.

04:33:31.880 It's probably also just because they're really strong dogs.

04:33:34.640 And they have a history of being raised really badly.

04:33:38.060 Yes.

04:33:38.460 They do.

04:33:39.200 Yeah.

04:33:39.300 Those dogs had a lot of running and attention.

04:33:40.960 Sure.

04:33:41.240 The owners are bad owners.

04:33:42.580 Even if they're trained, they could still attack someone.

04:33:45.280 That's true.

04:33:45.580 They can just go off.

04:33:46.280 So good.

04:33:46.800 Any dog can do that.

04:33:48.400 Yeah.

04:33:48.580 Even the small ones.

04:33:49.380 Any dog can do it.

04:33:50.440 And like the thing is.

04:33:51.780 Look.

04:33:52.680 Bad.

04:33:53.000 Bad trainers.

04:33:53.780 Whatever.

04:33:54.560 But the.

04:33:54.940 Their bite is so strong.

04:33:55.960 We'll get it.

04:33:57.000 You know that.

04:33:57.620 They're not really.

04:33:58.220 They have that many PSI on their bite.

04:34:01.180 They're.

04:34:01.440 They think they're 15 or something.

04:34:03.340 Well, they're just strong.

04:34:03.920 Definitely not.

04:34:04.700 They are strong.

04:34:05.260 And they don't let go.

04:34:06.340 And they can.

04:34:07.080 Yeah.

04:34:07.380 And they can make damage.

04:34:08.480 And of course.

04:34:09.360 But they're.

04:34:09.920 They're not as strong as other breeds.

04:34:11.780 They just have a bad rep.

04:34:13.300 I agree.

04:34:14.140 Yeah.

04:34:14.200 Yeah.

04:34:14.300 Because I mean.

04:34:14.680 You think German Shepherds are also really aggressive.

04:34:17.200 I mean.

04:34:17.380 They have to be strong to be used as police dogs.

04:34:19.500 You know.

04:34:20.040 Yeah.

04:34:20.380 But they just haven't trained well.

04:34:22.140 And I think they're just recruited.

04:34:23.660 You know.

04:34:23.760 The difference is though.

04:34:24.720 Like when it comes to this specific dog breed.

04:34:26.800 Is that like a chihuahua.

04:34:33.260 A chihuahua that is poorly trained.

04:34:35.580 If you get bit by a chihuahua.

04:34:38.900 It's a minor inconvenience.

04:34:40.160 I can fuck up any chihuahua.

04:34:43.160 I'm 50-50 on the pit bull.

04:34:45.560 I don't know how that's going to end up going.

04:34:48.180 If they get to my neck.

04:34:49.120 Who knows.

04:34:52.100 It's different.

04:34:52.900 Anyways.

04:34:54.000 Other.

04:34:55.220 Anything.

04:34:55.700 Flying flight attendant.

04:34:57.600 Red flag.

04:34:58.180 Travel North red flag.

04:34:59.220 Hit that.

04:34:59.940 Let's do a couple chats here.

04:35:01.940 Let's see.

04:35:02.640 Unit 285.

04:35:04.260 Wait.

04:35:04.700 Leon?

04:35:05.480 Who was it Nick?

04:35:07.380 Oh.

04:35:08.000 Nickelodeon was it?

04:35:09.140 We'll get to it.

04:35:09.700 It said Leon in the chat.

04:35:11.100 No.

04:35:11.320 I don't know.

04:35:11.540 Okay.

04:35:12.460 Unit 285.

04:35:13.780 Good evening Brian and panel.

04:35:15.880 How do tattoos and piercings fit within your concept of natural body supremacy?

04:35:21.020 Personally.

04:35:21.620 I find the vast majority of tattoos and piercings on women off-putting.

04:35:24.920 Different thoughts.

04:35:25.740 Can I ask why?

04:35:27.120 I want to ask why.

04:35:28.000 To him?

04:35:28.860 No.

04:35:29.100 To you though too.

04:35:29.800 Because you guys are both men.

04:35:30.960 So I want to know your perspective.

04:35:32.280 They say it's like ran through.

04:35:33.620 But how does that correlate with?

04:35:35.820 I don't understand that.

04:35:36.640 I can understand like trauma.

04:35:37.940 Things like that.

04:35:38.420 But ran through.

04:35:39.100 I never understand it.

04:35:40.740 Hmm.

04:35:41.340 You guys are both like different men.

04:35:42.820 So I want to hear your perspective.

04:35:44.780 It's funny because when I met my mother.

04:35:47.100 Oh my God.

04:35:48.380 Hold on.

04:35:48.740 We'll come back to that chat.

04:35:50.060 We'll come back to the tattoo thing.

04:35:51.620 Yo, stay safe.

04:35:53.200 Thank you very much for the big raid on Twitch, dude.

04:35:56.960 Hope you had a really good stream.

04:36:00.060 Hold on.

04:36:00.700 Let me give you a shout out there.

04:36:02.400 Nick, I'm going to need you to lower the volume just a little bit because.

04:36:08.240 All right, ladies.

04:36:09.380 So stay safe.

04:36:10.380 He's playing World of Warcraft.

04:36:12.660 Classic.

04:36:13.700 He's really excited for Season of Discovery.

04:36:17.200 Phase three, right?

04:36:18.400 Are you guys stoked for the Sunken Temple raid?

04:36:22.500 I don't know what that is.

04:36:25.480 You're not stoked for ST, Sunken Temple?

04:36:29.060 I'm excited for, but they're excited, I guess.

04:36:31.660 I don't know.

04:36:32.060 Are you stoked for Sunken Temple?

04:36:33.360 I'm ecstatic.

04:36:34.240 So stoked for ST.

04:36:35.980 Yeah, I'm hyped.

04:36:36.900 Yeah, it sounds cool.

04:36:38.400 Jumping for joy.

04:36:39.680 Now, question, ladies.

04:36:40.840 When it comes to Warlock, if you're playing Alliance right, human or, hold on, human or

04:36:49.500 no, for Warlock, which do you pick?

04:36:53.640 To play as a Warlock or to be a Warlock?

04:36:57.220 That's a very good question.

04:36:58.700 Both.

04:37:02.920 Maybe to play as a Warlock, be a human, and then to beat a Warlock, not a human?

04:37:06.880 It could be opposite there, I don't know.

04:37:11.040 Okay.

04:37:12.700 Turfies.

04:37:14.200 So, for Warlock...

04:37:15.760 I want to be a human that...

04:37:17.940 Shout out, stay safe, TV.

04:37:20.380 I don't know.

04:37:21.940 I just did a shout out over on Twitch.

04:37:23.900 Oh, really quick.

04:37:24.940 We'll come back to the question.

04:37:26.640 Guys, if you're new here, stay safe.

04:37:29.260 Thank you for the raid.

04:37:30.180 Guys, drop us a follow on Twitch, if you can, please.

04:37:34.280 Drop us a follow on Twitch.

04:37:35.420 We're trying to grow our audience over there on Twitch.

04:37:38.500 And also, if you have a Prime, a Twitch, a little Twitch Prime, you can drop us a Prime.

04:37:45.820 That'd be much appreciated.

04:37:47.120 Yo, thank you for all the follows, guys.

04:37:48.260 We really appreciate it.

04:37:48.940 Majin Millie.

04:37:49.980 Good name, dude.

04:37:50.600 Thank you for the follow.

04:37:51.760 Kiss, thank you for the follow.

04:37:52.800 Audi, thank you for the follow.

04:37:54.340 Yo, Colossus, thank you for the Prime.

04:37:55.960 Quack Theer, thank you for the Prime.

04:37:58.000 And stay safe, once again.

04:37:59.120 Thank you for the raid, man.

04:38:00.680 Really appreciate it.

04:38:01.820 Human or no Warlock?

04:38:03.620 For Classic, of course.

04:38:05.420 Human.

04:38:06.380 Based.

04:38:07.560 I fuck with gnomes.

04:38:08.860 You fuck with gnomes?

04:38:10.060 But, so was it human Warlock or gnome?

04:38:13.040 Human Warlock or gnome Warlock?

04:38:16.420 Like, you got, okay.

04:38:17.520 Oh, you did not say gnome?

04:38:19.140 Lower the volume a little bit.

04:38:20.000 I got so excited.

04:38:23.200 Gnome Warlock or human Warlock?

04:38:24.640 So check it out, right?

04:38:26.860 Gnome.

04:38:27.700 You got to think about the racials, right?

04:38:29.540 The racials.

04:38:30.100 So, like, human, you know, they've got the spirit buff, which isn't really great.

04:38:34.240 They've PvP'd decent with the perception for stealth, but, like, reputation gain is huge.

04:38:40.500 And then the sword, mace spec thing, not really important for, for a Warlock.

04:38:46.660 There's no, I don't really think there's such thing as a melee Warlock, you know, even in sod, you know?

04:38:51.840 Right.

04:38:52.220 But gnome, they get the engineering, or wait, yeah, they get the engineering boost, and then they get the int.

04:38:57.680 They get the buff to int, which is, like, you know, you're going to get more mana, and then, like, crit chance.

04:39:01.600 I kind of, I really like more mana, so I think I'm going to go with Warlock.

04:39:04.240 Yeah, that's fine.

04:39:04.680 No, no, no, no.

04:39:05.400 No.

04:39:05.680 No.

04:39:05.880 No, wait, what?

04:39:07.560 Okay, there's human Warlock and gnome Warlock.

04:39:10.020 Oh, okay, gnome Warlock.

04:39:11.300 Okay, what about you?

04:39:12.000 Okay.

04:39:12.440 Human.

04:39:13.140 Human.

04:39:13.380 Human.

04:39:13.980 Human.

04:39:15.380 Human Warlock, of course.

04:39:16.720 Wait, I'm sorry, are we the Warlock, or are we fighting that Warlock?

04:39:20.260 No.

04:39:20.520 That's deep, bro.

04:39:21.860 That's a deep question.

04:39:22.220 We're picking our characters.

04:39:23.460 That's a deep question.

04:39:25.140 Maybe gnome, actually.

04:39:26.660 Yeah, because they have, like, more mystical powers and stuff.

04:39:28.960 Like, you just brought up gnome out of nowhere.

04:39:30.700 Would you date a guy, would you date a guy who's got a level 60 gnome Warlock with Atiesh?

04:39:37.000 Nah.

04:39:39.120 I don't know.

04:39:41.180 Atiesh.

04:39:41.940 I don't even know what that is.

04:39:43.140 Like, bro, you got to go into Naxx and get 40 of the shards.

04:39:46.540 Shards of, was it shards of Atiesh?

04:39:48.940 I forgot.

04:39:49.440 Splinters of Atiesh, excuse me.

04:39:52.240 Like, he's, you know.

04:39:54.240 If they had some other things going for them, sure.

04:39:56.320 Like, only, typically, like, you know, depending on the timeline for the phases and stuff in World of Warcraft, like, maybe one, one or two people in a guild are going to get Atiesh, so.

04:40:10.060 He's got Atiesh.

04:40:11.160 Would you date him?

04:40:11.620 It feels like they're spending more time with the game than me.

04:40:13.860 But would you date him?

04:40:14.620 Like, would it be a plus if the guy had Atiesh?

04:40:17.320 I don't think so.

04:40:21.060 Okay, here, let me do a, let me do a comparison or contrast.

04:40:23.740 Okay, the guy makes 30k a year, but he has Atiesh, or the guy doesn't, doesn't have Atiesh, but he makes 200k a year, and he has a big pee-pee.

04:40:34.180 I don't, oh my god.

04:40:38.980 Okay, what about you?

04:40:39.960 I would definitely go with the second choice.

04:40:41.460 The Atiesh guy or not?

04:40:42.780 No, no, no, Atiesh.

04:40:44.980 Atiesh guy?

04:40:45.700 No, the other guy.

04:40:47.000 I'm not sure, I'm still not sure what Atiesh is, but.

04:40:50.620 Atiesh, like, it tele, oh my god, wait, hold on.

04:40:53.900 It teleports you to, sorry, I'm blanking, boys.

04:40:57.720 I will give any girl at this table $1,000, $1,000 if you can tell me where Atiesh teleports you to.

04:41:06.360 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, $1,000 if you can tell me where Atiesh teleports you to.

04:41:13.840 Can we get a hint?

04:41:14.540 No, we need, like, more context for that.

04:41:16.400 Yeah, the forest.

04:41:17.660 I just said.

04:41:18.960 Karazhan.

04:41:19.620 It teleports you, that's what Atiesh does, it teleports you to Karazhan.

04:41:23.980 And what is the Karazhan?

04:41:25.200 Don't worry about it.

04:41:25.940 Temple.

04:41:26.380 All right, okay, yeah, I'm going to pick that 200k.

04:41:29.720 Something I can.

04:41:30.060 Which guy?

04:41:30.600 I'll go option one.

04:41:32.400 That guy with Atiesh?

04:41:33.640 Yeah.

04:41:34.080 Based.

04:41:34.520 Nice.

04:41:35.140 One.

04:41:35.580 Scoot the mic closer to you.

04:41:36.720 One.

04:41:36.960 Scooted closer to you.

04:41:38.280 Could not even explain.

04:41:39.440 That's okay.

04:41:41.500 It's okay.

04:41:42.040 What about you, Atiesh guy?

04:41:45.200 Man, I like Call of Duty and Mortal Kombat, but yeah, that guy.

04:41:48.320 What?

04:41:49.240 Okay.

04:41:50.240 All right, yo, stay safe.

04:41:51.160 Thanks for the raid, man.

04:41:51.820 Much appreciated.

04:41:53.280 Where were we?

04:41:54.160 What were we?

04:41:54.700 Oh, the tattoo thing.

04:41:55.540 We were talking about tattoos.

04:41:56.680 Yes.

04:41:57.640 The question, I'll pull it back up.

04:41:59.860 So, this was for us.

04:42:01.060 Good evening, Brian and panel.

04:42:02.080 How do tattoos and piercings fit within your concept of natural body supremacy?

04:42:06.620 Why don't you start and I'll give my take after.

04:42:08.860 Yeah.

04:42:09.420 I am, I definitely prefer no tattoos, no body piercings.

04:42:13.960 I guess, like, if she's got a couple tattoos, I want to know why.

04:42:18.860 Like, the off-putting nature of tattoos is, like, spur-of-the-moment decisions.

04:42:23.780 So, it's, like, sporadic behavior.

04:42:25.480 But it's also, like, if you have a ton of tattoos, it could be perceived as, like, financially.

04:42:32.440 She's not financially, oh, gosh, intelligent.

04:42:36.420 Or she's, like, she will spend her money willy-nilly.

04:42:39.060 Especially, uh, the trashiness aspect.

04:42:42.960 Financially irresponsible.

04:42:43.660 I love how you looked at this.

04:42:44.720 Yeah.

04:42:45.060 Oh, my God.

04:42:47.240 Trashy.

04:42:47.520 Thank you, Mason.

04:42:48.380 Sorry.

04:42:48.680 No, you brought it up.

04:42:49.520 You good, you good, you good.

04:42:50.280 I wanted to hear this.

04:42:50.980 It's okay.

04:42:51.560 Respectfully.

04:42:52.080 The trashiness aspect.

04:42:54.220 Cut the cameras right now, Brian.

04:42:55.680 Yes.

04:42:57.160 Now, so, I guess the trashy, uh, I think, I don't know.

04:43:03.420 I mean, I, I guess I do see it as trashy.

04:43:06.920 But it's because, like, the type of person who gets a buttload of tattoos is usually trashy.

04:43:12.580 I mean, I guess that's just kind of a stereotype.

04:43:16.280 But, like, the more, like, the trashier woman I see generally has more tattoos.

04:43:21.680 Hmm.

04:43:22.940 Okay.

04:43:23.260 But, obviously, that's not, like, a rule.

04:43:25.540 Or, it's not like everybody who has a lot of tattoos is trashy.

04:43:29.300 But, generally speaking, it's a safe bet.

04:43:31.380 Do you think I'm trashy looking at me right now?

04:43:35.320 Just tell me.

04:43:36.040 I feel like this is a trap.

04:43:37.180 No, no.

04:43:37.540 Just say it.

04:43:38.320 Just say it.

04:43:38.540 Yeah.

04:43:38.740 No, I don't think you, yeah.

04:43:40.280 Uh-oh.

04:43:40.960 Uh-oh.

04:43:41.420 Am I trashy?

04:43:41.880 Wait, take, let's, you gotta show them up.

04:43:45.200 Show them up.

04:43:45.780 Show them up.

04:43:45.800 Show the tats.

04:43:46.480 Let's see it.

04:43:47.020 I didn't even know she was tatted.

04:43:47.940 I want to see this.

04:43:48.520 I can't see it.

04:43:49.560 She went from.

04:43:50.560 Okay, so, well.

04:43:51.520 Nineteen.

04:43:51.800 The thing is, it's like, okay, so that's not a ton of tattoos.

04:43:54.700 What, what do you think about the, the, the, what is that?

04:43:57.080 The, the, the.

04:43:57.840 The eye?

04:43:58.660 What's that?

04:43:59.560 I don't know.

04:44:00.320 I like that.

04:44:01.640 Is that like a Freemason tattoo?

04:44:03.600 Yeah.

04:44:04.600 Oh boy.

04:44:04.680 But she's also already going like delicate.

04:44:06.400 Is that like Illuminati?

04:44:08.760 See, that's not a trashy amount of tattoos.

04:44:10.540 What about me?

04:44:11.220 Do you think I'm trashy?

04:44:11.640 Am I trashy then?

04:44:12.700 Goddamn, they're going.

04:44:13.460 Oh, I just want to know.

04:44:14.340 No, no, no.

04:44:14.960 I know.

04:44:15.560 Oh shit.

04:44:17.160 Goddamn.

04:44:17.440 I got this whole sleeve going.

04:44:18.220 I don't know.

04:44:18.820 I mean like.

04:44:19.940 Because you're saying trashy, so I'm like.

04:44:21.740 Trashy means like I'm like a 304.

04:44:23.300 I'm out here.

04:44:23.680 Hey, you want to.

04:44:24.280 Like, what?

04:44:25.300 I make six figures.

04:44:26.340 Uh-oh.

04:44:26.600 Uh-oh, baby.

04:44:27.240 Gosh.

04:44:30.320 I knew this was a trap.

04:44:31.200 I respect it.

04:44:31.520 I respect that.

04:44:32.440 You said respectfully, so it's okay.

04:44:34.060 What about me?

04:44:35.080 No.

04:44:35.480 Like, I don't think.

04:44:36.520 No.

04:44:37.140 No, yeah.

04:44:37.620 I don't think you're trashy.

04:44:38.540 I just care on.

04:44:39.020 I just care on me.

04:44:40.660 You're in an eight year marriage.

04:44:42.760 Like, I don't think you're trashy.

04:44:44.920 Yeah, so you have a couple tattoos.

04:44:47.000 I have a lot of tattoos, though.

04:44:47.920 Yeah.

04:44:48.120 We're talking about like.

04:44:49.300 I even have a face tattoo.

04:44:50.740 You just can't see it.

04:44:51.700 I'm like all tatted everywhere.

04:44:52.840 Wait, where's the face tattoo?

04:44:53.860 It's under the makeup.

04:44:54.780 Oh, you covered makeup.

04:44:56.280 On my whole Harley Quinn sleeve.

04:44:57.900 Yeah.

04:44:58.340 I don't have bad tattoos.

04:44:59.260 It's all Harley Quinn.

04:45:00.440 I have my grandpa right here.

04:45:02.060 This is just a rose.

04:45:03.560 But also, I want to mention that more than half of my tattoos, my best friend also had.

04:45:08.680 And like I mentioned earlier in the show, she unalived herself and I found her body.

04:45:15.240 Bro, you got.

04:45:16.000 Oh, my God, bro.

04:45:17.140 So sorry.

04:45:18.200 I'm very out of pocket.

04:45:20.120 I'm so sorry.

04:45:20.940 Anyways.

04:45:21.600 Should we talk about the Holocaust while we're at it?

04:45:25.340 Oh, yeah.

04:45:25.680 Should we talk about, should we talk about other really not negative topics?

04:45:36.040 Anybody?

04:45:36.500 Should we?

04:45:37.380 I'm sorry.

04:45:38.360 Should we?

04:45:38.660 But like I was saying, I did share a lot of the tattoos with her and they were pretty sentimental.

04:45:43.980 Should we talk about the, do you want to talk about the Ukraine war?

04:45:46.480 Dang.

04:45:48.260 Should we?

04:45:48.640 What's another morose?

04:45:50.540 Palestine, Israel.

04:45:51.560 Oh, boy.

04:45:52.900 I think you just mean Israel.

04:45:54.900 Just Israel.

04:45:55.780 Let's not talk about the political and economic.

04:45:56.880 You asked for her suggestions.

04:46:00.920 But I just want to go back to that a lot of them are sentimental to me.

04:46:04.920 Mine's too.

04:46:06.340 Trust me.

04:46:06.760 I mean, don't care about that.

04:46:07.480 They look at us and they see the tattoo.

04:46:08.800 That's true.

04:46:09.340 Yeah, you're right.

04:46:09.840 It could be you and your father that passed away.

04:46:11.640 But hey, you're right in a point that you made.

04:46:14.420 My first tattoo was impulsive and I regret it and I have to use laser to remove it and

04:46:19.580 it was the most painful thing I've done.

04:46:22.620 So I'll answer.

04:46:23.540 I'll answer the question.

04:46:24.980 Yeah, 9-11.

04:46:26.440 Should we talk about 9-11?

04:46:28.180 Oh, boy.

04:46:28.660 What do you want to talk about?

04:46:29.520 You want to talk about some dark morose?

04:46:32.340 My podcast now.

04:46:33.200 By the way.

04:46:35.460 I apologize.

04:46:36.880 So while tattoos are not a deal breaker, I would say I prefer few or no tattoos.

04:46:43.000 I think it's a scale, right?

04:46:44.840 What about piercings?

04:46:45.940 Yeah.

04:46:46.920 Piercings?

04:46:47.500 Mm-hmm.

04:46:49.060 Piercings are not as bad as tattoos.

04:46:51.960 I would, as bad.

04:46:54.680 Do you think they look trashy?

04:46:56.540 What about, like, a tattoo?

04:46:57.420 It depends on the tattoo.

04:46:59.440 Like, no offense.

04:47:01.520 It's okay.

04:47:01.940 No.

04:47:02.620 I'm not a fan of the stern...

04:47:04.560 Septum.

04:47:04.980 Septum.

04:47:05.380 Septum.

04:47:05.460 Excuse me.

04:47:06.360 Speaking of sternum, I'm not a fan of sternum tattoos.

04:47:09.100 I'm not a fan of the septum tattoo.

04:47:11.480 You know?

04:47:11.920 Piercing?

04:47:12.380 Piercing?

04:47:12.540 I'm like...

04:47:13.220 Piercing.

04:47:13.760 Oh, my God.

04:47:14.400 My...

04:47:14.680 Sorry, guys.

04:47:16.660 I mixed them up.

04:47:17.380 I'm a little out of it tonight.

04:47:19.920 Yeah.

04:47:21.380 Piercings...

04:47:22.220 Definitely, it's a bit of an eyebrow raise if they have nipple piercings.

04:47:27.220 I'm like...

04:47:28.220 But you wouldn't be able to realize that until you see the person.

04:47:33.280 Oh, yeah.

04:47:34.360 Probably.

04:47:34.760 I'm like...

04:47:35.760 Yeah, I'm thinking...

04:47:43.500 I don't know.

04:47:47.100 A lot of those girls with small boobs would look good with nipple piercings.

04:47:51.280 Wait, what?

04:47:52.320 Because you were saying, like, you didn't like fake boobs.

04:47:54.480 Yeah.

04:47:54.640 So I feel like a lot of girls that have, like, smaller boobs, like, look really good with nipple piercings.

04:47:58.940 I'm just saying.

04:48:01.460 Yeah, because their boobs are smaller.

04:48:02.700 Yeah, so it's kind of burkier.

04:48:03.600 Wait, I don't even understand the logic.

04:48:05.840 I don't get the logic.

04:48:07.400 Girls with smaller boobs would look better with nipple piercings than girls with bigger boobs.

04:48:12.280 Because their boobs are smaller.

04:48:14.100 And it's just like...

04:48:14.620 What?

04:48:14.980 They look good on all boobs.

04:48:16.120 This is big group racism.

04:48:18.800 That's like...

04:48:19.920 Well, you know, he's got a small dick, so it would look better with a penis person.

04:48:25.700 I think...

04:48:26.220 Sorry.

04:48:26.640 I think this makes...

04:48:27.120 What?

04:48:27.500 That's not the same.

04:48:28.540 Maybe sense to, like, me and my friends.

04:48:30.460 Or whatever it's called.

04:48:30.980 Yeah.

04:48:31.400 Maybe it's more specific to me and my friends, but...

04:48:33.960 Are you trying to say that you have nipple piercings?

04:48:36.840 No, but I've, like, considered it.

04:48:38.360 I mean...

04:48:38.640 But it's kind of, like...

04:48:40.800 I feel like you think it's, like, for guys, and I don't...

04:48:45.060 Like, I think it's, like, girls do it because no one can see it.

04:48:48.140 And it kind of feels, like, powerful.

04:48:51.780 Okay.

04:48:53.840 Sounds painful.

04:48:54.980 I don't think...

04:48:56.480 When it comes to piercings, I...

04:49:00.060 It's just, like, something that you choose to do to yourself.

04:49:02.560 Well, I don't think I would make the argument that women get piercings for men.

04:49:06.140 I would make that argument for plastic surgery and makeup.

04:49:11.040 Now, you might want to debate me on that, but...

04:49:13.060 I don't know about makeup.

04:49:13.440 Like, tattoos and piercings, I don't...

04:49:16.600 Yeah, I don't think I...

04:49:17.640 Because men don't like makeup, so if I, like, a man, I wouldn't wear makeup.

04:49:20.660 Like, if I'm going on a date, I wouldn't wear this much makeup.

04:49:22.480 I would be as light as possible because I know men don't like makeup.

04:49:25.400 But with the tattoo things, I think it's scale.

04:49:27.740 If they have, like, a little, small heart tattoo or something, it's not a deal-breaker,

04:49:31.400 but my ultimate preference, like, my maximum, most optimum preference would be no tattoos.

04:49:37.780 If she has a heart tattoo on her wrist, that's never going to be a deal-breaker.

04:49:41.560 Would it be my preference if she didn't have it?

04:49:44.320 Sure, but I don't...

04:49:45.760 I wouldn't really care.

04:49:47.800 In the same way that a girl might like a guy who's 6'3 over 6'2.

04:49:51.560 Like, does that difference have, like, a massive impact?

04:49:54.920 Probably not, but it could be, like, just edge out slightly on the preference scale.

04:49:59.100 I do think that tattoos and body mods can be correlated with and precipitated by trauma, familial issues, personality disorders.

04:50:11.840 Not always, but it can be.

04:50:14.660 So it could be a sign of some of those other things.

04:50:17.620 And, again, when it comes to optimum dating, I would prefer to optimize my dating in that regard.

04:50:25.780 And I tend to try to avoid those things.

04:50:29.520 So I'm not saying all people tattoos and body mods are bad people, not at all.

04:50:36.740 But just in terms of making the most optimal dating decisions, I do think we can infer things about people based on how they look and choices they've made.

04:50:47.560 Does this go for men and women, or are you just talking about women?

04:50:49.880 Because I know a lot of men with tattoos that have a hell of trauma.

04:50:53.040 Sure, yeah, yeah.

04:50:53.820 Blue donated $100.

04:50:56.340 Engineer Guy, have you talked to any special forces officers about commissioning?

04:51:01.240 There are also awesome opportunities for engineers in the Air Force, like flight test engineering, test pilots, et cetera.

04:51:08.860 Quick answer to this.

04:51:10.300 Yeah, I've looked into a lot of those things.

04:51:12.360 I'm actually currently Air National Guard.

04:51:15.020 So I do understand there are a lot of different engineering avenues.

04:51:18.360 And I thought about going the officer route.

04:51:21.700 But the special forces route just kind of, like, speaks to me.

04:51:25.780 Oh, Biggs' boss, who just subbed, he's my boy.

04:51:28.820 I game with him on the regular.

04:51:30.840 Oh, shit.

04:51:31.400 Sweet dude.

04:51:32.140 Oh, yeah.

04:51:32.520 Thank you, man.

04:51:32.800 What do you play?

04:51:33.580 I play Call of Duty, Helldivers.

04:51:37.100 Helldivers?

04:51:37.640 I love Helldivers right now.

04:51:39.660 One of my other buddies and I play that.

04:51:40.160 It's pretty trendy right now.

04:51:41.280 But probably most frequently Call of Duty.

04:51:44.060 Yeah.

04:51:45.380 Based.

04:51:46.860 I don't play any video games anymore.

04:51:48.380 I play a lot of video games.

04:51:49.820 That's what we do.

04:51:50.380 That's our hobby.

04:51:51.260 Yes.

04:51:51.960 Wait, speaking of entertainment, has anybody watched, don't spoil it for me, has anybody

04:51:56.260 watched all of Three Body?

04:51:58.520 What's it?

04:51:59.000 Oh, I actually did.

04:52:00.440 Yes, I know.

04:52:01.400 What is it?

04:52:02.080 Three Body Problem.

04:52:03.060 Three Body Problem.

04:52:03.860 I'm, like, episode three, four.

04:52:06.260 What is it?

04:52:07.000 It started out good, but it's starting to get...

04:52:10.000 No, it's like a cool concept.

04:52:11.640 Yeah.

04:52:12.060 Does it get better?

04:52:13.020 I think so.

04:52:13.820 Is that on Netflix?

04:52:14.400 Don't ruin it.

04:52:14.900 Don't spoil it.

04:52:15.700 Wait, what is that on Netflix?

04:52:16.680 What's, like, the general premise?

04:52:17.940 Yeah, I'll explain the premise.

04:52:19.240 Time traveling and...

04:52:20.340 Wait, don't ruin it.

04:52:21.880 Don't spoil it.

04:52:22.880 No, yeah.

04:52:23.320 I mean...

04:52:24.320 No, just let people watch that shit.

04:52:26.480 Okay.

04:52:27.440 I feel the same way.

04:52:27.960 I think if you explain the premise, there's...

04:52:29.320 Is it, like, a sci-fi movie?

04:52:31.020 It's sci-fi.

04:52:31.400 Okay.

04:52:31.660 It's a show.

04:52:32.380 I'm into it.

04:52:33.080 It's, like, dark.

04:52:33.680 You know that show, Dark, with time traveling and quantum physics and all this stuff?

04:52:37.860 Okay.

04:52:38.460 I'll watch it.

04:52:38.900 I'm speaking my language.

04:52:40.160 Back to the tattoo thing.

04:52:41.680 Your question was, is it the same for men, right?

04:52:44.720 Yeah, because I feel like a lot of people like to say things about women, but a lot of men as well.

04:52:48.720 Like, if that goes for women, shouldn't it go for men?

04:52:51.060 A lot of men have trauma, too.

04:52:51.960 I just think men and women weigh it differently, and some people don't heal their trauma and stuff like that as women.

04:52:57.180 That's a fair point, and I certainly, I think, just as it, you know, when it comes to getting tattoos or body modifications,

04:53:03.060 it can be correlated or precipitated by trauma, familial issues, personality disorder.

04:53:09.000 I think that would equally apply to men, too.

04:53:12.160 I don't know if there have been studies on if there's a discrepancy there, but I do think, in terms of what men and women find attractive,

04:53:20.780 I do think there's a larger cohort of men who find tattoos unattractive in women, and there's a, what is it, and then the reverse,

04:53:30.820 there's a larger cohort of women who find tattoos attractive on men.

04:53:35.240 Now, I'd be curious if anybody has any thoughts on why that is.

04:53:41.900 I feel like tattoos make men look more masculine in some cases.

04:53:46.860 Yes.

04:53:47.080 So that makes more attractive.

04:53:49.520 They look dangerous.

04:53:50.380 Women like a guy.

04:53:51.060 Right, exactly.

04:53:52.260 Men look scared at women.

04:53:53.440 Exactly.

04:53:53.620 They think we're, like, masculine, we're going to dominate you.

04:53:55.700 Tattoos have nothing to do with masculinity, though.

04:53:58.100 I don't understand where people correlate that.

04:53:59.700 But that's how kind of, like, you see it.

04:54:00.480 I mean, that's kind of the impression I get, though.

04:54:02.100 I think it's media.

04:54:03.060 If I look at a heavily tatted woman, I do tend to think, like, more masculine.

04:54:06.060 I wonder if there is, like, something about, like, the contrast on the skin.

04:54:11.360 It, like, I don't know.

04:54:12.900 It's, like, harsh.

04:54:14.860 Like, I don't know if there's, like, a harshness to it.

04:54:18.220 Like, visually, when you look at, like, certain images, it just looks more, like, aggressive.

04:54:23.660 I think maybe if there's, like, a tattooing on the skin, it makes the person look more aggressive.

04:54:29.700 I don't know psychologically why that would be the case.

04:54:32.560 But, like, that's my best guess of the answer.

04:54:34.820 What about scars?

04:54:36.300 Like, scars on the man might be deemed.

04:54:38.620 I could also see that, yeah.

04:54:39.860 Yes.

04:54:40.260 As, like, some women might be, like, whoa, that's kind of hot, attractive.

04:54:44.300 It's, like, it's aggressive.

04:54:45.620 But it's in many cultures.

04:54:46.760 It's considered, back in history, that men with scars have more value because they went through battles and wars.

04:54:54.600 Yeah.

04:54:55.860 I would guess they probably come from, like, a same place, Cyclone.

04:55:00.300 I don't know.

04:55:01.680 Killer of Serial donated $100.

04:55:04.260 Thank you, man.

04:55:04.960 Video games and dating.

04:55:06.940 It's speed dating, but you play one round of the hardest Mario Kart level.

04:55:12.120 Whoever loses chooses to get a new opponent or rematch.

04:55:15.360 Rule is you must ask questions the whole time.

04:55:19.960 What's the question?

04:55:20.920 Wait.

04:55:21.320 Speed dating, but you play one.

04:55:22.540 You, like, play, like, while you're, like, talking.

04:55:25.100 And then, oh, that's cute.

04:55:26.420 If you lose, you get a new opponent.

04:55:27.680 And then if you win, you get to pick a new partner.

04:55:29.780 It says you lose.

04:55:30.580 Whoever loses.

04:55:31.680 Well, I never lose in Mario Kart.

04:55:36.020 That's cute.

04:55:36.700 Rainbow Road.

04:55:37.300 I think the rule should be if you're playing Mario Kart with your girl, and if you win, you get to cheat on her.

04:55:44.580 Wow.

04:55:45.360 That's just so deep.

04:55:47.920 Way from zero to a hundred.

04:55:51.360 I don't know.

04:55:53.780 And if she loses, you also get to cheat.

04:55:59.160 Oh, jeez.

04:56:00.880 It's just a great, great.

04:56:03.780 Right, Nick?

04:56:05.000 Right.

04:56:05.720 Yeah.

04:56:06.200 All right.

04:56:06.680 We have Nickelodeon here.

04:56:08.340 Big red flag.

04:56:09.140 If they say like more than three times in one sentence, well put, Nickelodeon.

04:56:13.920 That's half of the female population.

04:56:15.800 Yeah, I think that just, yeah.

04:56:17.840 The human species will cease to exist if we don't procreate with women who say like.

04:56:23.420 Absolutely.

04:56:24.320 It's just done.

04:56:25.040 It's done for.

04:56:26.740 Thank you.

04:56:27.280 I feel like that also just like goes away with age.

04:56:30.780 Like, right?

04:56:31.600 Like, dude.

04:56:32.260 Like, I think so.

04:56:33.120 I'm like from here.

04:56:33.760 So like, that's like my dialect.

04:56:35.660 Like, maybe when I'm older.

04:56:36.600 Like, what can I even do?

04:56:37.460 All right, we have Rito here.

04:56:40.540 Hey, thank you, man.

04:56:41.260 Rito, really appreciate it.

04:56:43.200 Long distance girlfriend is not interested in seeing each other or moving together.

04:56:47.520 I proposed and she said yes about six months ago.

04:56:50.780 I feel she's not interested in moving forward 2.3 years.

04:56:54.020 Should I end the relationship?

04:56:56.080 My dear friend, I think your first mistake was getting into a long distance relationship.

04:57:03.360 True.

04:57:04.020 Proposing to her.

04:57:05.200 Proposing for, if you have not ever like lived together, I don't think you should, at least

04:57:09.420 for a little bit, I don't think you should propose to that person.

04:57:12.440 Yeah.

04:57:12.840 I mean, I'm no one to say about fast relationships because we got married pretty fast, but absolutely

04:57:17.360 long relationships are a no-go.

04:57:19.600 Long distance.

04:57:20.240 Yeah, long distance relationships.

04:57:21.480 I mean, there's not enough information here, Rito, but did it start off long distance?

04:57:25.600 How did you guys initially meet?

04:57:28.120 I typically tend to think and advise that, well, long distance relationships are ill-advised.

04:57:35.200 Especially if you're young and it's like one of these, you dated in high school, then you

04:57:40.240 both go off to different colleges.

04:57:42.380 I mean, almost always that's just never ends, never ends well.

04:57:47.480 It's just a recipe for disaster.

04:57:49.400 But you did propose, she said yes six months ago.

04:57:52.600 You feel she's not interested.

04:57:56.100 Wait, not interested in seeing each other.

04:57:57.980 Wait, hold on.

04:57:58.660 Have you never met this woman in person?

04:58:01.840 Because I'll pull it up again.

04:58:03.560 He says, not interested in seeing each other.

04:58:08.060 Have you never met this woman, Rito?

04:58:12.060 Burrito.

04:58:12.840 Sounds like she wants a green card.

04:58:13.980 Get me a Dorito.

04:58:16.600 If you've never met this woman in person, just make sure it's not a male.

04:58:23.980 Yeah.

04:58:24.440 Gorlock the Destroyer.

04:58:25.500 Don't spend my money.

04:58:26.360 You know what I mean?

04:58:27.460 Yeah.

04:58:27.880 Got to verify.

04:58:28.700 Yeah.

04:58:28.940 People will make time for what's important to them, regardless of what's going on in their

04:58:32.980 life.

04:58:33.320 Absolutely.

04:58:34.140 I will, if I'm in love with a woman, I will move heaven and earth to make sure I give

04:58:39.740 her the time of day.

04:58:41.120 And a woman will do the same thing for a man she loves.

04:58:44.520 So it's hard to, it's extremely difficult, man.

04:58:48.440 But it's kind of time to accept the reality.

04:58:53.560 Don't send her money.

04:58:55.700 Yeah.

04:58:56.140 Don't send her your money.

04:58:57.520 No, no, no.

04:58:58.280 Nigerian prince.

04:58:59.540 Foucao and Canadian 100.

04:59:01.440 Men doing martial arts should train with women.

04:59:03.760 If women need to fight, it will likely be with somebody bigger.

04:59:06.940 Afford them a safe space to train with men and learn technique.

04:59:10.040 For men, it affords opportunity to train control and temperance.

04:59:13.280 But I did bujutsu, not judo.

04:59:16.340 I've never heard of bujutsu.

04:59:18.020 I mean, I agree with that because I do train with men, but in competitions, we don't go

04:59:25.620 against men is what I'm saying.

04:59:27.780 Like I've trained against men that are way bigger than I am.

04:59:31.920 So, yeah.

04:59:33.140 I prefer it though.

04:59:34.800 But they do hold back, which is like.

04:59:39.100 I got kicked really hard doing Muay Thai.

04:59:40.820 I got kicked really hard doing Taekwondo.

04:59:43.560 Because if you're actually in real life, a man's going to fight you.

04:59:46.020 Yeah.

04:59:47.360 Yeah.

04:59:48.040 Let me get into some of my pre-show notes here.

04:59:50.600 So, we had, let's see.

04:59:53.340 Alexa, yes, I married my husband three months after we met.

04:59:57.000 Before that, you dated a few guys in L.A. when you just moved to the country from Venezuela.

05:00:01.500 Major cultural shock.

05:00:02.740 So, what was the cultural shock when it comes to dating from dating in Venezuela to dating

05:00:09.220 in Los Angeles, which is the mecca of degeneracy?

05:00:16.180 I couldn't get to know anyone in person.

05:00:18.620 Everybody keep telling me you need to have a dating app.

05:00:21.060 And that's not how I work in my country.

05:00:23.480 It feels extremely weird and impersonal to trying to meet someone through a nap.

05:00:29.480 That is authentic.

05:00:30.200 Which is so normal in here.

05:00:32.740 So, it was a little bit of a shock to see how that works in here.

05:00:38.400 Because it's so normal.

05:00:39.560 In Venezuela, that's not how it works.

05:00:41.600 You just go and introduce yourself.

05:00:42.960 Or you're kind of like, hey, you want to have a beer?

05:00:46.740 That was very strange.

05:00:49.120 You also said there were cultural differences between dating a Latino and dating a white person,

05:00:54.260 dating in L.A.

05:00:54.940 So, what's the difference between dating a Latino and dating a white boy?

05:01:01.760 Latin culture is known for, there's a lot of machismo, which I'm going to, let me explain that.

05:01:08.140 There is negative.

05:01:09.820 There's a negative type of being a machista.

05:01:12.720 I am all about masculinity and the man leading.

05:01:15.660 But then, what happened in Latin culture is the man became this person who has completely,

05:01:22.700 and is a totalitarian figure on the marriage or on the families.

05:01:29.100 And there is also the constant cheating on the wife.

05:01:32.620 And it becomes like a normal thing.

05:01:34.520 Is that common?

05:01:35.600 In Latin?

05:01:36.140 In fidelity?

05:01:37.040 Yes.

05:01:37.580 It's very common, unfortunately.

05:01:39.800 Like they have mistresses?

05:01:41.080 Yes.

05:01:41.880 Okay.

05:01:42.340 It's very common and becomes a normal thing.

05:01:45.640 And I always knew I didn't want that for myself.

05:01:49.120 Mm-hmm.

05:01:50.120 And you said there's a lot of machismo.

05:01:52.300 Yes.

05:01:52.980 And then, what was it with the men, like, being in charge of the relationship?

05:01:57.360 Yeah, which I'm not against of that.

05:02:01.580 Actually, you know, my husband is the leader in our house.

05:02:06.100 Yeah.

05:02:06.580 What I'm against to is when you, you say something earlier about co-part, co-part, part, co-part?

05:02:13.920 Being co-partners?

05:02:14.840 Yes.

05:02:15.520 And making decisions together, and at the end of the day, the husband has the last word for it.

05:02:20.640 That's the final say.

05:02:21.440 But in a machista marriage, there is no even a talking.

05:02:25.700 There is no what my wife, what matters for my wife, how she feels about it.

05:02:31.460 There's none of that.

05:02:32.520 And I always knew I didn't want that for myself.

05:02:35.060 Well, he's essentially acting as a single man.

05:02:37.600 Yes.

05:02:38.020 And then, yeah, exactly.

05:02:39.000 So you go outside, you have beers, you know, you cheat on your wife, you come on next day

05:02:43.720 at six in the morning drunk.

05:02:45.620 And I don't think that's good.

05:02:48.520 That's what a lot of people back in my country, a lot of girls, have daddy issues because the

05:02:54.320 father is not present.

05:02:57.160 Yes.

05:02:58.240 Huh.

05:02:58.680 I have actually a question for the panel here that's going to be sort of related to your

05:03:03.860 thing.

05:03:04.140 So you're from Venezuela, which still is a socialist country, correct?

05:03:09.900 Yes.

05:03:11.640 Anybody here have any socialist, Marxist leanings?

05:03:20.360 He's looking at me.

05:03:21.340 Around the table?

05:03:23.240 Any communists?

05:03:25.920 I could say why it's bad.

05:03:28.120 Yeah.

05:03:28.880 Why are you looking at me?

05:03:30.280 Well, I start with you, then we go around the table, so.

05:03:34.340 No?

05:03:35.900 No.

05:03:36.620 So like full steam ahead, capitalism, love it?

05:03:42.000 I don't love it, but.

05:03:43.820 But it's the.

05:03:44.920 It's what we have.

05:03:46.500 Is it the best system?

05:03:48.860 I don't know.

05:03:50.000 You don't have any.

05:03:51.720 I don't know.

05:03:52.240 I got.

05:03:52.640 Maybe I got the wrong impression.

05:03:57.180 A little bit socialist.

05:04:00.660 A little bit anti-capitalist.

05:04:02.980 Just a team.

05:04:03.300 Wait, do you know the definition of them?

05:04:06.160 Not exactly.

05:04:07.400 No, I don't.

05:04:07.920 Just tell us you're a communist.

05:04:09.020 It's okay.

05:04:10.180 You can say it.

05:04:11.220 This is a safe space.

05:04:12.900 It's a safe space.

05:04:14.560 Well, I'll say, I'll go, but.

05:04:16.860 No, but, but, but, but.

05:04:17.500 Oh, hey, sorry.

05:04:24.460 I don't know enough about any of the parties to really define myself by one.

05:04:28.600 I just know what I believe.

05:04:30.000 Which is what?

05:04:31.920 I don't know.

05:04:33.180 Like.

05:04:33.680 Well, you just said you know.

05:04:34.580 Hold on.

05:04:35.060 Are you not what she believes, like, as in communists?

05:04:37.640 Are you basically happy living, you know, in the country with the way that it is economically,

05:04:40.840 stuff like that?

05:04:41.460 I feel like it could be better.

05:04:43.740 It's not an example.

05:04:44.500 It's obviously not perfect.

05:04:46.280 Yeah.

05:04:48.340 So, any leanings?

05:04:50.880 She says it could be better, but she probably just doesn't know how.

05:04:54.200 So, it's hard to, like, define, like, what you agree with when you don't really know.

05:04:58.880 Would you prefer a different system to be in place?

05:05:02.360 Like what?

05:05:03.400 What exactly would be changed?

05:05:04.440 Either socialism or communism.

05:05:06.580 In place of, in place of our current system, capitalism.

05:05:12.120 Like a bigger government or a small?

05:05:13.540 No.

05:05:16.400 Would you prefer either socialism or communism in place of the current capitalist system in

05:05:21.220 the United States?

05:05:22.680 I don't think so.

05:05:23.960 I think we could just have a better democracy.

05:05:26.800 Better democracy.

05:05:27.920 What would that look like?

05:05:36.220 I'm just kidding.

05:05:36.800 What does that mean?

05:05:37.960 A better democracy?

05:05:41.280 Like maybe the vote of the people could have more sway in how things are done.

05:05:47.380 Okay.

05:05:48.560 So, like, is that a direct democracy?

05:05:50.860 Because don't we have...

05:05:51.800 Yeah, it's a...

05:05:51.880 We're a republic or what is it?

05:05:53.700 We're a constitutional republic.

05:05:55.200 Constitutional republic.

05:05:58.740 Okay.

05:05:59.560 What about you?

05:06:01.620 Can you repeat the question?

05:06:02.680 Like, full-blown Marxist?

05:06:05.520 No.

05:06:06.020 Okay.

05:06:06.320 Well, to be, like, for real, I don't know.

05:06:08.220 I kind of like the way that, you know, I do like capitalism because if you think about

05:06:13.320 it, like, try to start, like, a small business, that's not really something that you could

05:06:16.880 do in, like, a socialist country.

05:06:18.420 Face.

05:06:19.920 What does that mean?

05:06:20.780 Face.

05:06:21.060 Um, I prefer capitalism.

05:06:26.600 Me too.

05:06:27.200 I'm also, like, an economics and accounting major, so it kind of, like, goes with that.

05:06:31.160 But, yeah.

05:06:31.720 I'm not...

05:06:31.920 So you know.

05:06:32.980 So I know.

05:06:33.500 She knows.

05:06:34.140 She knows.

05:06:34.760 She knows.

05:06:35.820 Uh, capitalism.

05:06:37.260 Same.

05:06:38.560 Capitalism.

05:06:38.980 Okay.

05:06:39.180 I was trying to get you a little something there, but fortunately...

05:06:41.960 No, it's fine.

05:06:42.720 I mean, I'm happy to hear that, though, because I have met people in the past here that they

05:06:47.060 hate the United States.

05:06:48.400 They don't want to be here anymore.

05:06:49.460 Or, exactly, and, you know, I would love to give them a ticket to my country for a week.

05:06:55.800 And then they can experience life over there and then come back and tell me how they feel

05:07:00.660 about it, you know?

05:07:01.540 Yep.

05:07:01.720 I think people who does, who hates capitalism and they don't appreciate what they have here

05:07:06.640 is because they have it too easy and they never have a real struggle.

05:07:11.020 They're too closed-minded.

05:07:12.400 Well, and they're just too comfortable, so...

05:07:14.880 Well, they also just don't have any other experience.

05:07:17.340 Exactly.

05:07:17.660 So, actually, I can speak a little bit to this.

05:07:20.660 My parents actually live in North Africa right now.

05:07:25.240 So, I lived there for three and a half years.

05:07:28.820 And, I mean, it's a third world country.

05:07:30.960 It's a...

05:07:31.660 Oh, gosh, what is it?

05:07:33.100 A constitutional monarchy?

05:07:35.460 What is Morocco?

05:07:37.320 Yeah, Morocco.

05:07:38.240 Okay.

05:07:38.440 So, I lived there for three and a half years.

05:07:41.240 And I've seen what, like, dictatorship or monarchy does to a country.

05:07:47.740 I've seen, like, I've traveled all over the world and I know what these different types

05:07:52.260 of social systems, socioeconomic systems, I know the toll it takes on a country.

05:07:58.800 And, yeah, my parents talk about it all the time.

05:08:02.520 And people over there talk about it all the time.

05:08:04.140 That they would give anything to be able to be in the position that we're in.

05:08:08.940 Oh, absolutely.

05:08:09.860 And that's one of the issues...

05:08:10.940 I do have to move it on from this.

05:08:12.700 But we have Bender the Offender.

05:08:14.180 Apparently, tattoos originated in 5000 BCE, Japan.

05:08:18.280 I would guess most Japanese warriors had tattoos.

05:08:21.080 Thus, that's why they are viewed as masculine.

05:08:24.300 We're watching that show, Shogun.

05:08:26.820 It's really good.

05:08:28.240 And they have a bunch of tattoos, though.

05:08:29.680 Yes.

05:08:30.380 There you go.

05:08:31.160 It's interesting how it shifted into being something viewed negatively in Japan.

05:08:35.380 Because they're associated with Yakuza, which are gangs.

05:08:38.840 And I'm going to Japan, hopefully, in the summer.

05:08:42.400 So, they actually don't allow some places, like, foreigners at all.

05:08:47.580 And some places don't allow, you know, tattoos.

05:08:49.700 I think it is shifting a little bit in Japan.

05:08:54.220 But here in the U.S., there was that similar stigma.

05:08:57.880 I don't know when the shift started happening.

05:09:00.360 But maybe back before the 90s, maybe.

05:09:06.760 I think tattoos were viewed a bit like, okay, is this...

05:09:10.640 You'd be maybe a little suspicious of the person.

05:09:12.940 Are they a criminal?

05:09:13.600 Whatever.

05:09:14.480 But I think the stigma is totally gone.

05:09:17.420 For the most part, gone now.

05:09:18.580 Yeah.

05:09:19.100 On that level.

05:09:20.000 Anyways.

05:09:21.640 Some pre-show notes from you.

05:09:23.180 You said you're part feminist, part traditional.

05:09:27.020 Did I say that?

05:09:27.700 I think so.

05:09:28.540 No, sorry.

05:09:29.040 That was you.

05:09:29.680 My bad.

05:09:30.080 Sorry.

05:09:30.200 I'll get to you in a sec.

05:09:31.080 I said that?

05:09:32.340 I said, wait, no.

05:09:33.740 Yeah.

05:09:33.900 You said you're feminist slash traditional.

05:09:35.720 I did?

05:09:36.320 I think so.

05:09:37.000 Let me pull up the notes really quick.

05:09:38.280 Nick, can you pull up our Instagram?

05:09:39.860 Yeah.

05:09:40.820 Or I also have my phone here, too.

05:09:42.480 No, it's okay.

05:09:43.460 It's all good.

05:09:44.360 You're fine.

05:09:44.900 You know, okay, well, you know what?

05:09:47.340 Maybe that's a little bit accurate.

05:09:48.660 You're retracting.

05:09:49.340 No, no, no, no.

05:09:50.540 You're doing a retraction?

05:09:52.040 No, I'll, like, elaborate.

05:09:54.000 I do, I personally prefer, like, a more traditional relationship, you know, that kind of stuff.

05:10:00.040 But, you know, as far as how you were saying, you know, leader, man is, like, the boss, I grew up where my mom was, like, the stronger voice in the household.

05:10:08.960 You know what I mean?

05:10:09.340 She made more money, da-da-da-da.

05:10:10.940 And, like, that's fine.

05:10:12.520 You know, I'm okay with, like, having a future like that, you know, with, like, my boo, whatever, my husband.

05:10:19.100 But, yeah, like, the, no, it's hard.

05:10:22.780 You know, I believe in, like, a nuclear family and stuff, but do I think that, you know, I definitely, growing up saying that, I have a say in how things go.

05:10:34.180 You know what I mean?

05:10:35.520 That's basically it.

05:10:37.060 So, we're equals.

05:10:38.460 We're equals.

05:10:39.780 You're equals?

05:10:40.580 Who should pay on the first date?

05:10:42.280 I prefer if the guy did.

05:10:43.740 Well, hold on.

05:10:44.760 That's not equal.

05:10:45.660 No, yeah, but I.

05:10:48.540 Have you ever paid on the first date?

05:10:50.420 I've split.

05:10:50.880 I actually, I've only ever gone on, like, one date where a guy has paid for me, and then when I, when I did that, I enjoyed it.

05:10:59.740 So, I was like, ooh, yeah, I like this.

05:11:01.720 Oh, okay.

05:11:02.600 Well.

05:11:03.360 Who should make the first move?

05:11:07.060 No.

05:11:08.120 Like, neither.

05:11:08.860 It doesn't matter.

05:11:09.400 Really?

05:11:10.740 But if, whoever asks.

05:11:13.020 So, you want to, okay.

05:11:14.040 Whoever asks, you know, they should pay.

05:11:17.320 Like, but.

05:11:19.640 Oh.

05:11:20.040 Killer of cereal donated $100.

05:11:23.420 Is it communist to want a joint checking account in a relationship?

05:11:27.660 Gives equal funds for all vibes.

05:11:30.520 Thoughts on sharing funds with partner in all aspects?

05:11:34.240 Capitalism works.

05:11:35.760 Communism crumbles.

05:11:38.160 Thoughts on sharing funds with a partner?

05:11:40.500 I mean, only in a marriage.

05:11:42.400 Yes, I agree.

05:11:43.280 But, also, don't get married.

05:11:46.940 That's my take.

05:11:47.840 No offense.

05:11:48.600 No offense.

05:11:49.560 Sorry to the marriage people here, but I don't believe in getting married.

05:11:54.000 I agree.

05:11:55.100 I believe in getting married.

05:11:56.460 Yes.

05:11:57.200 I'd love to get married.

05:11:58.040 Publicly.

05:11:59.400 Eh.

05:12:00.300 What's the point?

05:12:01.100 Right.

05:12:01.580 Unless you're religious.

05:12:02.920 Then you should.

05:12:03.640 I agree.

05:12:04.560 Maybe the tax benefits.

05:12:06.340 Yes.

05:12:06.800 Negligible compared to the rest.

05:12:08.700 I feel like there's, like, benefits.

05:12:09.580 Negligible.

05:12:10.140 I actually would agree with Brian.

05:12:12.420 Like, I think we've talked about this before.

05:12:14.260 Like, I agree with the position.

05:12:16.400 Like, you should get married if it's for religious reasons.

05:12:19.020 I don't understand why the secular world gets married.

05:12:21.780 It baffles me.

05:12:23.400 Like, it's your, like, it is a religious institution.

05:12:27.880 It always has been a religious institution.

05:12:30.560 And putting yourself in this contract with, like, no basis in, like, objective truth.

05:12:38.700 Like, there's no, like, if we have a disagreement, what are we going to turn to, to, like, hash this out?

05:12:45.500 It's, like, there's too many things.

05:12:46.960 There's too many things up in the air.

05:12:48.160 There's no, like, no authority over you that keeps you in that relationship.

05:12:53.060 So, like, for Christianity, like, God says divorce is a no.

05:12:56.980 You got to figure it out for yourself.

05:12:58.640 Well, you have values and principles.

05:13:01.140 Yeah.

05:13:01.260 You don't need a religion for that.

05:13:02.980 So, ah, you can make those up.

05:13:05.400 Like, there are certain people, there are certain people in history that had very different values.

05:13:10.440 No, you don't.

05:13:10.920 You have a disagreement with your husband.

05:13:12.300 And you think about the hard work and the love and the compromise that you have put through the years.

05:13:18.380 You don't need to have God looking at you.

05:13:20.780 And I respect your religion and I respect how you view that.

05:13:23.980 But talking on my own experience, you, we are not going to run away the first time that we have a disagreement.

05:13:30.780 And we are not, we're not Christians.

05:13:33.320 Well, yeah.

05:13:33.560 We believe that marriage is work and it's, it's, um, you have to work through it.

05:13:40.180 And you're not going to run away just at the first time that you are not agreeing with your husband.

05:13:44.340 So, do you have a secular marriage?

05:13:46.340 What is a secular marriage?

05:13:47.280 Like, you guys are not religious.

05:13:48.820 We're not religious, yes.

05:13:52.240 Okay.

05:13:53.340 You had something?

05:13:54.140 No, yeah.

05:13:55.000 So, I mean, there, I'll give a quick response to this.

05:13:58.320 There is something you hit on right there.

05:13:59.860 Like, we have morals, we have values.

05:14:02.040 I agree with that.

05:14:03.040 Actually, the Bible hits on that.

05:14:04.720 For people who are non-believers, God created man and woman.

05:14:10.140 When he created humanity in general, he imprinted on them his moral law.

05:14:15.760 So, man and woman, that's why when we do something bad, we feel that it's bad.

05:14:20.940 Like, we know in our core that it's wrong.

05:14:23.840 Now, that, that moral law, that morality can be corrupted.

05:14:27.340 It can be, uh, it can be, uh, cauterized.

05:14:30.120 The more that we, uh, delve into sin, like, those things become, we can become numb to

05:14:35.740 those things.

05:14:37.020 Um, so it depends on the person.

05:14:38.700 But that's why, like, generally speaking, humanity has an understanding that there are

05:14:43.360 certain things that are good and there are certain things that are bad.

05:14:45.980 Right.

05:14:46.200 You have something that tells you inside of you.

05:14:48.160 You say, okay, this is, doesn't, this doesn't sit right with me.

05:14:50.700 This, this sits wrong.

05:14:52.620 Um, but overall, in, in my experience with my husband, we, when we have our bad days,

05:14:58.720 absolutely for sure.

05:15:00.420 But we decide that this is a compromise and we want to be with each other for the rest

05:15:04.240 of our life.

05:15:05.200 And no matter what, we're going to make a war.

05:15:06.840 Of course, I mean, it's, it's something, like, terrible.

05:15:08.880 Like, he killed someone, I killed someone.

05:15:10.460 But in daily basis, you make a compromise with that person, either if you're religious

05:15:15.520 or not, and you have to live through that.

05:15:19.060 I, I actually think it's an interesting, like, if, from a secular perspective, it's actually

05:15:24.340 a rather pro-religious position to say secular people shouldn't get married.

05:15:29.380 Because it's like, nah, that should be, like, that's for religious people, I think.

05:15:33.920 Um, but, uh, I really don't see the point, certainly from the male's perspective, of getting

05:15:42.140 married if you're not religious.

05:15:44.340 I can see the reason why a woman who's an atheist or secular or whatever would want to

05:15:49.480 get married.

05:15:49.920 Uh, I actually, um, one reason in defense for people who do want to get married, I don't

05:15:56.140 personally want to get married, but it gives you a right over each other in case of emergencies.

05:16:00.140 Like, if someone's injured and is incapacitated and someone needs to make a decision, you get

05:16:04.980 no right of any decision of what happens to them.

05:16:07.520 You might not even be allowed to see them if you're not married.

05:16:10.760 That's true.

05:16:11.380 Yeah, okay, so there are some considerations in terms of, you know, um, there's, uh, end

05:16:18.220 of, or something like healthcare directives, there's a specific terminology for it, but

05:16:23.540 I want to ask the chat a question on this.

05:16:25.980 Couldn't you, in like, uh, you're just, you have a girlfriend, couldn't you just give her

05:16:31.760 like a power of attorney?

05:16:35.600 I don't want, I don't know.

05:16:36.700 That's not exactly.

05:16:37.760 You could give her, assign her the legal, the same legal power to make decisions for you

05:16:45.340 on behalf.

05:16:45.960 Like in the event of a medical emergency, you could sign some sort of contract, an advanced

05:16:50.640 healthcare directive.

05:16:51.760 I think that's what it's called.

05:16:52.940 I could be wrong saying in the event that I'm a vegetable or in the event that I'm incapacitated,

05:16:59.700 I give this person my proxy or I give them the authority to make medical decisions, um,

05:17:07.900 on my behalf.

05:17:09.440 So I don't think it requires marriage to do that.

05:17:12.140 Although I think by default, if you are married, I think it removes, like there wouldn't have

05:17:17.560 to be some actual, uh, it would just automatically upon marriage.

05:17:22.980 I think it would give you that level of authority over your spouse's, uh, like a healthcare directive,

05:17:28.700 but, uh, I, it is an, it is a valid argument though.

05:17:32.780 You would have some benefit there if there wasn't an existing, uh, signed health power

05:17:39.060 of attorney or advanced healthcare directive or something like that.

05:17:42.280 So, but I can't really think of a reason for, for a man to get married if he's not religious.

05:17:50.280 Hmm.

05:17:51.280 That's funny because my husband proposed to me and I initially say no.

05:17:55.300 I mean, perhaps the better statement is I don't see a reason why a breadwinner should

05:18:00.340 get married, which typically tends to be men.

05:18:03.000 Although there's certainly women who can be breadwinners and who are breadwinners.

05:18:07.420 Well, I'm not, I stay home.

05:18:09.220 I take care of my animals at the farm.

05:18:10.840 I grow food and he brings the money.

05:18:12.320 But I don't, I never, I've never heard a compelling argument for secular marriage for the breadwinner.

05:18:20.580 Hmm.

05:18:23.520 Anybody?

05:18:25.340 Nothing?

05:18:28.880 What?

05:18:29.940 Uh, not yet.

05:18:30.780 Hold on.

05:18:31.240 We were, wait, we were going, oh no, we were talking to you and we're kind of going on a

05:18:36.200 million different topics here.

05:18:37.700 Uh, you said you were feminist slash traditional.

05:18:39.860 I pulled it up.

05:18:41.000 You did say, hold on.

05:18:43.240 It's coming up here in just a sec.

05:18:45.100 Sorry guys.

05:18:45.700 My thing is loading.

05:18:47.400 I guess while that's loading, you said that your ex from San Diego, you live together.

05:18:51.880 He was originally from Florida.

05:18:53.100 You were 19.

05:18:54.480 Your dad broke us up.

05:18:55.720 Did you tell us the quick story of what your dad broke you guys up?

05:19:00.300 No, his dad broke us up.

05:19:01.880 His dad broke us up.

05:19:02.800 So basically, I mean him in, I'll try to make it like really fast.

05:19:07.100 Basically, we went to Florida, um, for like his birthday and stuff.

05:19:09.960 And my mom came along too.

05:19:11.400 Uh, he was supposed to get some stuff handled with his dad, but I like, we, we ended up

05:19:16.920 like having a moment like where we broke up and he kind of just like bummed it out in

05:19:20.920 his mom's house while I was just like with my mom and stuff at the hotel.

05:19:24.300 Uh, basically he was supposed to do some stuff with his dad.

05:19:27.020 He flaked, didn't say anything.

05:19:28.540 And then when he left, when we went back to San Diego, cause we ended up getting like back

05:19:32.320 together at the end of it.

05:19:33.540 Um, he like did not even say bye to his dad.

05:19:35.640 Like he didn't even let his dad know that he was leaving.

05:19:37.820 So, um, went back to San Diego.

05:19:40.920 We had some issues.

05:19:41.600 He was like, he was in, um, the Navy.

05:19:44.380 So he had like barracks over there at the place at the, you know, Coronado.

05:19:50.540 Yeah.

05:19:51.880 Yeah.

05:19:52.700 Um, and then, cause we were like living together at the time.

05:19:56.080 So his dad was like, Oh, why is your location?

05:19:58.180 Why is his location over there?

05:19:59.180 He called me, was asking me for some stuff.

05:20:01.660 He was still upset with like everything that was like going on with him, you know, and his

05:20:06.200 son, my ex.

05:20:07.420 And we just had like a discussion and he basically gave me like a really good idea on how to break

05:20:14.080 up with him very easily, which was ghost him.

05:20:16.960 Wait, the dad?

05:20:17.940 Yes.

05:20:18.980 Okay.

05:20:19.680 Yeah.

05:20:21.100 Um, yeah.

05:20:23.820 He was really like an asshole.

05:20:25.440 Wait, so the dad didn't want you dating him or he didn't want his son dating you?

05:20:30.500 Yeah.

05:20:30.980 He felt bad for me that I was dating his son.

05:20:33.620 Damn.

05:20:34.140 Basically.

05:20:34.780 That's like betrayal.

05:20:36.260 Bro, that's betrayal.

05:20:37.080 Wow.

05:20:37.880 Wow.

05:20:38.840 Shit.

05:20:39.560 Awkward.

05:20:40.320 Yeah.

05:20:40.760 But yeah, he, you know, broke us up and stuff and yeah, that's basically it.

05:20:45.820 Like not necessarily though.

05:20:47.520 Maybe he actually had an issue with you, but he was like, no, no, no.

05:20:51.040 My son's the problem.

05:20:52.240 You should definitely break up with him.

05:20:53.600 It was, it was like some other stuff, like, you know, which I would like, wouldn't want

05:20:56.760 to get into.

05:20:57.760 The septum piercing?

05:20:58.660 Maybe a little.

05:20:59.420 Was it that?

05:21:00.000 I think that was it.

05:21:01.420 But yeah.

05:21:02.220 Well, you said, you said you were somewhere between a feminist and traditional.

05:21:09.600 Okay.

05:21:09.820 So going back to what I was saying about like paying on the first day and stuff, I would

05:21:13.960 like it if a guy like paid on the first day for me.

05:21:16.360 You know what I mean?

05:21:16.760 And like, that would be very nice.

05:21:18.140 Like I would really be like, you know, like that.

05:21:21.200 But if we split and you know, you had like a proper reason as to why you believe that

05:21:26.640 we should split and like you gave me, you know, I'd be like, okay, you know, I can get

05:21:30.660 that.

05:21:31.140 And like for future stuff, if you take me on a date, you pay for me.

05:21:34.900 Who says that?

05:21:35.760 Like, you know, not who says, but maybe when we go to the movies, I'll pay for the tickets

05:21:39.340 and the popcorn, you know?

05:21:40.600 Okay.

05:21:40.740 So you said that you mostly you'd want, you want to tell people how to be smarter in their

05:21:45.720 dating choices and talk about how horrible the dating pool is right now.

05:21:48.440 A quick thought on that.

05:21:50.060 Um, okay.

05:21:51.600 So do you have like any other prompts that can like, maybe like, okay, sure.

05:21:55.700 Well, I'll switch gears.

05:21:56.660 You said you were watching one of our previous videos and you'd like to talk about the difficulties

05:22:01.420 of dating for men versus women, especially if you're going to have one of the male guests

05:22:05.880 on the show.

05:22:06.820 So what was the, you had a disagreement there when it comes to dating for men versus women.

05:22:10.920 For example, I've previously said, I've previously said, and anybody else here is welcome to disagree

05:22:17.580 with me that comparatively speaking, I think dating is harder for men and I think women

05:22:23.040 have dating on easy mode.

05:22:25.180 Was that your disagreement?

05:22:27.140 Yeah.

05:22:27.880 Compared to men.

05:22:29.900 Yeah.

05:22:30.420 Any, any, any disagreements there?

05:22:32.940 Any disagreements?

05:22:33.960 I agree.

05:22:34.420 I feel like it's harder for men because they have to usually, or they're usually expected

05:22:39.080 to initiate.

05:22:39.960 I agree.

05:22:40.420 That's harder.

05:22:42.200 But for dating itself, I think it's harder for women to find a guy that's ready to be

05:22:47.960 in a relationship at our age, at least.

05:22:52.560 Not even just be in a relationship, but to be a little bit more respectful because I think,

05:22:57.120 especially, you know, our like age range and stuff, hookup culture is just so big.

05:23:00.960 I think it's so real and it really just seems like, you know, after college, throughout

05:23:05.820 high school, they really seem to keep that.

05:23:08.880 And through having that like mindset, you know, growing up and stuff, it's really hard

05:23:12.500 for them to retain like a real relationship, like try to get to know somebody and that just

05:23:18.580 like F's up, you know, your whole, I don't know, rhythm, whatever.

05:23:24.660 But at the same time, I would argue that it's not one sided.

05:23:28.980 It's not just men.

05:23:30.100 It's women that are kind of going into that hookup culture just for the fun of it.

05:23:35.720 So it's not just men that are not wanting relationships.

05:23:39.320 It's also women because, you know, OF is on the rise and it's just ridiculous.

05:23:45.980 And I think, yeah, especially with things like OnlyFans and let's, sorry, let's like if

05:23:53.620 we were to talk about, you know, media and stuff like that, I like forgot where I was going

05:23:58.480 with this, but yeah, media, porn, stuff like that, it's, that's so pushed, like, you know

05:24:06.600 what I mean?

05:24:06.880 It's so pushed for girls to look a certain way or act a certain way.

05:24:10.680 And then, you know, I believe so.

05:24:13.160 Yeah.

05:24:13.860 I mean, if we, whatever gets like most media attention, you know what I mean?

05:24:20.080 Or who we see the most, like we don't, I feel like it's not all the time that we get

05:24:24.480 to see like natural girls anymore doing their natural girl things, you know?

05:24:28.000 Like, I feel like a lot of us feel the pressure of having to like know how to shake her ass

05:24:33.080 and no, no.

05:24:34.540 Okay.

05:24:34.780 Sorry.

05:24:34.980 That was like a little bit crazy.

05:24:36.240 I'm like, but like, you know, um, just so I can, let me, hold on.

05:24:47.140 Women are just feeling the pressure.

05:24:49.520 I know to shake their ass.

05:24:50.400 They're feeling the pressure having to shake their ass and twerk.

05:24:55.740 It's hard out here.

05:24:56.760 It is.

05:24:56.940 Every day.

05:24:57.340 No, I mean, you're not wrong.

05:25:05.320 Um, it's just sort of the, it's a funny thing to think about, but you're actually not wrong.

05:25:09.920 There's definitely like degeneracy that's being pushed and like get on TikTok.

05:25:14.760 This is the norm.

05:25:15.920 And, um, and it's actually funny.

05:25:18.420 I do think, I mean, this is, I don't know if this is a conspiracy theory territory, but

05:25:22.660 like if you look at what is being pushed on TikTok in the United States versus what's being

05:25:29.220 pushed.

05:25:29.640 I don't, it's, I don't, it's, I think it's been shown versus like pushed in China, for example, which I, they own TikTok.

05:25:36.700 They'll show like engineering videos, like things that might stimulate you intellectually.

05:25:41.500 And then on TikTok, like they're just going to feed you like stupid fucking dances and like twerking and sexuality and just shove it down your throat and just, just perpetuate the degeneracy.

05:25:56.240 They also push consumption a lot, which I think is interesting.

05:25:59.600 Consumption?

05:26:00.380 Yeah.

05:26:00.600 Like eating food?

05:26:01.460 No, no, no.

05:26:02.360 Like, like purchasing.

05:26:03.860 Buying stuff.

05:26:04.300 Oh, buying stuff.

05:26:04.820 Entertainment consumption.

05:26:06.340 I see.

05:26:06.860 Okay.

05:26:07.180 So like, yeah, it's all designed to like feed our, feed our entertainment needs, our like, uh, our comfort needs, all of this stuff.

05:26:15.620 Over there, it's like, what can you do for the good of our, our country?

05:26:20.800 So like, what can you produce?

05:26:22.300 So engineering, like, let's stimulate your mind.

05:26:25.180 And then they charge them, okay, now use this new stimulation for the betterment of our country.

05:26:31.820 Wait, you guys know how there's this thing, like the prefront frontal cortex, apparently, I don't even know if that, I think it's bullshit, but doesn't, isn't fully developed until you're 25 years old.

05:26:40.960 Should we just, I think we should like ban smartphones and social media until you're 25.

05:26:48.640 You know, you can't vote.

05:26:50.880 Didn't they do that in Florida?

05:26:51.920 You can't vote until you're 25.

05:26:53.420 25, no smartphones, no social media.

05:26:56.360 You're just in the dark.

05:26:58.040 All about it.

05:26:58.800 It's the 1700s until you're 25.

05:27:02.220 Yes.

05:27:02.740 And then you get social media.

05:27:04.120 Things are going on.

05:27:04.860 That doesn't really sound too bad.

05:27:06.180 I'm saying.

05:27:07.180 Tough crowd, eh?

05:27:08.900 What?

05:27:09.620 Are you down for that?

05:27:13.320 Um, probably not.

05:27:14.140 She's so down.

05:27:14.800 She's so down.

05:27:16.020 Yeah.

05:27:16.220 Just, you know.

05:27:18.800 Okay, never mind.

05:27:20.000 Well, I gotta go.

05:27:21.960 Oh.

05:27:22.240 Unfortunately.

05:27:22.980 Yes.

05:27:23.800 No, you're good.

05:27:24.300 You can stay for a little bit.

05:27:25.340 Right?

05:27:27.840 Yes.

05:27:28.380 That was awkward.

05:27:29.440 I have to go, but thank you so much for having me.

05:27:31.500 I appreciate it.

05:27:34.260 Get home safe.

05:27:35.520 Yeah.

05:27:36.280 All right, Gustavo.

05:27:37.040 Take her seat.

05:27:38.020 We are going to try to wrap up soon here, guys.

05:27:39.940 We'll try to wrap up in, like, 15 minutes or so.

05:27:42.600 But she's...

05:27:43.060 If you're 15 minutes, I can stay a little bit more.

05:27:45.120 Oh.

05:27:46.420 I mean, no promises, but...

05:27:48.280 I'm trying to wrap up in 15.

05:27:50.360 Okay.

05:27:50.840 Okay.

05:27:51.300 All right.

05:27:51.740 Sorry, I keep kicking.

05:27:53.100 Oh, my bad.

05:27:53.880 Oh, it's okay.

05:27:54.440 But I didn't mind.

05:27:55.080 No, I agree.

05:27:55.640 But I mean, I'm trying my best.

05:27:56.700 Okay.

05:27:57.320 Wait.

05:27:57.680 So, really quick on the dating harder.

05:28:00.740 What was...

05:28:01.460 Uh, where did I leave off?

05:28:03.000 I remember, like, something like OnlyVans.

05:28:06.100 I think...

05:28:07.060 Okay, so the degeneracy.

05:28:08.400 Okay, here.

05:28:08.940 Let me just throw out, like, the most...

05:28:11.400 This is where you guys can attack me here.

05:28:13.460 Women have dating on easy mode.

05:28:16.180 Go ahead.

05:28:17.560 Disagree.

05:28:18.120 I don't feel that way.

05:28:18.920 Let's have a conversation.

05:28:20.260 Okay.

05:28:20.600 Can you, like, explain easy mode?

05:28:22.780 Sure.

05:28:23.080 Like, it's, like, easier for women to get dates than it is for men to get one.

05:28:27.700 Okay.

05:28:28.220 Oh, you have something on this?

05:28:29.200 Yeah.

05:28:29.420 Okay, go ahead.

05:28:29.820 The reason why I'm saying something is because I feel like with all the OF and the hookup culture,

05:28:33.660 I don't sleep around.

05:28:34.820 So, I feel like it's hard to find a partner who doesn't want to initiate things too soon.

05:28:38.460 And I'm not like that.

05:28:39.320 And I feel like a lot of guys think because of the tattoos and piercings that I want to jump their bones.

05:28:42.860 And it makes me run away.

05:28:44.300 And I wasn't taught stuff like that.

05:28:45.780 So, I've had two boyfriends my whole life.

05:28:47.500 So, I feel like the dating game for some women who want love, it's harder for us.

05:28:51.320 But the other girls, it's a little bit easier because they seep around really fast.

05:28:55.180 I guess to kind of clarify Brian's position, I'm not talking...

05:28:59.640 I don't think he's talking about getting into a relationship is easier for women than it is for men.

05:29:06.120 Now, you could make that argument.

05:29:07.660 But that's not what we're talking about.

05:29:08.800 It's like getting dates.

05:29:10.140 Just dates.

05:29:10.940 Dating in general.

05:29:11.980 I agree.

05:29:12.960 Women have dating on easy mode.

05:29:15.020 Guys are willing to take you on a date.

05:29:15.740 Yeah.

05:29:16.040 Okay.

05:29:16.300 Okay.

05:29:17.060 That's what I'm going to clarify.

05:29:18.740 Yeah.

05:29:19.280 Okay.

05:29:19.960 I feel like it's hard to find.

05:29:20.940 I mean, let's even assume that the guy who's interested in you is desirous of a long-term relationship.

05:29:27.440 That process of getting on the date, that's typically, I think, going kind of...

05:29:35.120 You don't have to do much.

05:29:37.000 You know?

05:29:39.160 So pretty.

05:29:39.980 Yeah.

05:29:40.260 As a woman, like, speaking as a man, like, if, like, I'll ask certain questions about, like, your morality, things like that.

05:29:50.980 But there are very few things you actually have to do to make me stick around.

05:29:56.760 Like, I think men generally have to bend over backwards to, like, keep a woman around.

05:30:03.200 Which I don't necessarily see as a bad thing, but there are negatives and positives to that situation.

05:30:11.220 And, I mean, just speaking about practical things, I mean, men typically, the burden of initiative falls on men.

05:30:16.980 And that manifests itself in a lot of different, like, moving things forward in a potential, even if it's casual.

05:30:27.200 But, okay, generally speaking, men are expected to make the first move.

05:30:31.680 We're going to have to carry the conversation to some degree.

05:30:34.160 We can't just walk up to you and just say, hey, and then shift the conversational burden to you.

05:30:39.440 So initially, there's a pretty strong expectation that we have to carry the conversational burden.

05:30:45.080 We have to perhaps plan the date, pay for the date, set up the date, handle the logistics of that.

05:30:50.600 If we're moving things forward physically, that can be so much as closing the, you know, if we're trying to close the physical barrier.

05:31:00.520 And that can extend all the way to going for the first kiss.

05:31:03.120 I think most women prefer the guy initiating on the first kiss and then moving, I don't need to get detailed, but moving things forward physically from there.

05:31:12.920 That typically is men initiating that, or the expectation is there at least.

05:31:18.140 And then, I mean, it goes on from there.

05:31:21.180 I agree.

05:31:22.160 As far as getting dates, yeah, girls definitely, I would interpret it as in, like, relationship stuff, you know.

05:31:28.060 Yeah, and then also just when it comes, if we're looking at the difficulty of dating when it comes to, well, what would potentially make something difficult?

05:31:36.640 Well, the degree of rejection that one might face.

05:31:41.160 So, for example, typically men are the ones getting rejected quite frequently.

05:31:46.160 Whereas women, my theory on this is women tend to get rejected on the back end.

05:31:51.620 So, for example, a guy will get rejected up front, like he'll shoot a DM, he'll approach you, he'll match with you on the dating app, and usually it's like an immediate rejection.

05:32:05.000 But what will happen is women will get rejected on the back end, so you'll sleep with a guy, and then he'll ghost you, or, you know, that's, you know, hit and quit it, that type of thing.

05:32:16.400 That'll be the back end rejection, which is bad.

05:32:19.140 Like, that sucks.

05:32:19.900 That's, I'd say, from a one-to-one comparison, like, one upfront rejection versus, like, a guy just fucks you and, like, doesn't call it, that's, that's worse than just an upfront rejection.

05:32:31.960 But it's obviously not happening to the same frequency as that upfront, front-end rejection that men experience.

05:32:39.440 So, yeah, that's, you know.

05:32:42.920 I mean, really quick, going around the table.

05:32:44.620 More often than not, like, I mean, when it comes to dating men, are you rejecting men more than they're rejecting you?

05:32:54.240 Yeah.

05:32:56.120 Yeah.

05:32:57.120 Yeah.

05:32:57.680 Like, how many, I'm curious, how many men have you rejected?

05:33:02.080 Nick?

05:33:03.560 From Justice College?

05:33:06.780 Hundreds.

05:33:07.260 No, I don't go out that often, so I'd say probably only about, like, ten.

05:33:12.420 Only ten?

05:33:13.600 Dating apps?

05:33:14.680 No, I didn't use dating apps.

05:33:15.480 No dating apps?

05:33:16.060 Okay.

05:33:16.540 All right, that's not bad.

05:33:18.020 A good amount.

05:33:19.240 Like, hundreds?

05:33:20.380 I don't want to say, like, hundreds, maybe like a hundred, but.

05:33:23.440 Okay.

05:33:24.460 I don't really get approached a lot, so I would say 50-50.

05:33:28.960 50-50?

05:33:29.840 Mm-hmm.

05:33:30.060 Okay.

05:33:30.340 What about you?

05:33:30.760 Um, yeah.

05:33:32.700 You go out to parties, right?

05:33:33.940 I do.

05:33:34.520 Parties, Isla Vista, Party Town.

05:33:36.180 Yeah, I think.

05:33:36.660 Do you guys, I feel like people approaching people in person, not as frequent as it used to be, but you still get approached a bit.

05:33:43.880 I'd say at college, I don't really get, like, if I'm getting approached at a party, it's not going to be, like, you know, it's not going to be different.

05:33:51.020 But I don't really go to those kind of parties anymore.

05:33:53.200 But I think I get mostly approached when I go back home, actually, or, like, go, like, outside of the college setting.

05:33:58.960 And then that's when I would probably reject someone.

05:34:01.920 Okay.

05:34:02.240 So more often than not, though, you're rejecting.

05:34:04.020 Okay.

05:34:04.320 Yeah.

05:34:04.880 Yeah, more often than not, I am, too.

05:34:07.840 Yeah, I mean, my single days, I used to reject more than, yes.

05:34:11.640 I've only been rejected once, and then I do the rejecting lately.

05:34:14.660 Most of the time?

05:34:15.420 Mm-hmm.

05:34:15.600 Wait, have you ever been rejected?

05:34:19.040 No.

05:34:20.940 Yes.

05:34:22.700 Yes.

05:34:23.640 Mm-hmm.

05:34:24.440 Yes.

05:34:25.060 Yes.

05:34:25.420 Oh, okay.

05:34:26.260 And you said once.

05:34:26.920 Yes.

05:34:27.060 Yeah, yeah.

05:34:27.740 Okay.

05:34:28.100 Never been rejected?

05:34:29.760 Well, I don't pursue people.

05:34:31.680 You don't pursue people?

05:34:32.680 Yeah.

05:34:34.960 Okay.

05:34:36.020 Well, you don't have to really pursue someone to be rejected.

05:34:38.400 You can basically say, hey, how's it going?

05:34:40.240 You want to grab a drink?

05:34:41.480 And the person will say, no, I don't.

05:34:42.700 No, she's never.

05:34:45.460 She's got the riz, bro.

05:34:46.860 She's got the riz.

05:34:47.960 She's killing it.

05:34:49.000 When the dude steps, boom, it's on.

05:34:52.820 Okay, good talk.

05:34:53.780 Wait, it's okay.

05:34:59.120 We talked about that.

05:35:00.420 Sonia, you wanted to talk about, hold on.

05:35:04.940 You said you lied about your age on a dating app.

05:35:07.180 I did.

05:35:09.660 Yikes.

05:35:10.240 Oh, my God, bro.

05:35:11.100 Chill out.

05:35:12.400 Goddamn.

05:35:12.800 It has me off guard, bro.

05:35:13.920 Every time.

05:35:14.600 Every time.

05:35:15.120 Freaking out.

05:35:16.260 I'm just not cracking at it.

05:35:18.640 Wait, in high school?

05:35:21.000 Yeah.

05:35:23.300 I was 17.

05:35:27.180 Unfortunately.

05:35:28.000 I'm very ashamed.

05:35:30.560 Damn, bro, you're trying to catch a kick.

05:35:32.800 No, you lie about your age.

05:35:35.400 So, like, were you dating these dudes?

05:35:38.460 Were you dating these dudes?

05:35:40.880 No.

05:35:41.940 I wasn't even meeting up with half of them.

05:35:44.700 So you met up with the other half?

05:35:45.700 I mean, like, no, I mean, no, no.

05:35:50.660 I wasn't meeting up with any of them.

05:35:55.040 It's because in high school, I was really, really, really shy and introverted.

05:36:00.840 I didn't have a lot of friends.

05:36:03.180 No, I've never been in a relationship, like, in that point.

05:36:08.100 In senior year, I didn't even have my first kiss at that point.

05:36:12.760 And I was kind of, I was also diagnosed with, like, depression and anxiety in high school.

05:36:20.880 You also said here that you are, you're autistic.

05:36:24.120 Is that correct?

05:36:24.820 Yeah.

05:36:25.160 Okay.

05:36:25.720 So it's really hard for me to, like, I don't relate to a lot of people, especially people my age, being on the spectrum.

05:36:35.720 Um, I've also been diagnosed with, uh, border, borderline personality disorder.

05:36:41.600 So it makes it very, yeah.

05:36:44.500 But, but this was before it got romanticized and being like, oh, yeah, I have borderline personality disorder.

05:36:49.300 Anybody else?

05:36:50.700 Show of hands.

05:36:52.240 BPD?

05:36:52.720 It's not anything I'm proud of.

05:36:55.620 Anybody?

05:36:55.760 In fact, I don't want B.

05:36:58.180 No.

05:36:58.660 BPD?

05:36:59.100 No.

05:36:59.800 Any bipolar?

05:37:01.360 Any bipolar?

05:37:02.480 Going once?

05:37:03.340 Going twice?

05:37:04.160 Mason, you didn't read your name?

05:37:04.960 NPD?

05:37:06.600 Narcissistic personality.

05:37:07.780 NPD?

05:37:08.600 Narcissistic personality.

05:37:09.680 Anybody?

05:37:10.660 Bueller?

05:37:11.200 Going once?

05:37:11.860 Bueller.

05:37:12.380 Go ahead.

05:37:12.700 Continue.

05:37:12.960 Bueller.

05:37:15.800 And I, I just really don't like the fact that people romanticize about it or romanticize

05:37:22.200 it on TikTok and they're like, oh yeah, I have BPD.

05:37:24.960 No, it's not fun.

05:37:26.400 It really ruins everything.

05:37:27.980 It ruins relationships.

05:37:29.000 It ruins relationships with your parents, with your, your siblings, with people that

05:37:34.120 you're trying to date.

05:37:35.520 It's not fun.

05:37:37.840 So BPD can manifest itself differently for different people.

05:37:41.320 When it comes to your romantic relationships, how does it negatively manifest itself for you?

05:37:47.380 So, um, I didn't realize I had it until I joined a family therapy group with another

05:37:55.800 Russian lady, because we speak Russian.

05:37:58.160 Um, and she said, she told me.

05:38:01.280 Killer of cereal donated $100.

05:38:04.640 Better chance, female or male.

05:38:07.520 If a guy got naked, had wood, and tried to coerce a female over after just meeting,

05:38:12.880 they would be in jail.

05:38:14.040 A man wouldn't call cops on her for sane behavior.

05:38:18.180 Thoughts?

05:38:20.080 Well, he should.

05:38:21.420 What?

05:38:22.080 Bro, what the fuck is this?

05:38:23.940 What?

05:38:24.200 Hold on.

05:38:24.880 That's insane.

05:38:26.180 If a guy got naked, had wood, tried to coerce a female.

05:38:28.920 It's like a sex event.

05:38:29.720 Over after just, wait.

05:38:32.320 They would be in jail.

05:38:33.180 A man wouldn't call cops on her.

05:38:35.000 So like, a girl shows up.

05:38:38.780 Naked.

05:38:39.520 Gets naked, yeah.

05:38:40.460 Like, on the date?

05:38:41.720 Like, public nudity?

05:38:42.940 Yeah.

05:38:43.120 You got other problems.

05:38:44.280 That's like, that's a crime right there.

05:38:46.200 Like, that's already crazy.

05:38:47.520 Yes.

05:38:48.420 That's public exposure.

05:38:50.060 Wait, so Mason, here's the, well, I don't know if this is going to lie to you.

05:38:52.920 Like, I show up to a date at the beach, and she's just like, I'm a nudist.

05:38:58.140 And she's like.

05:39:00.100 She's God-fearing, though.

05:39:01.020 Naked.

05:39:01.240 I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to.

05:39:02.240 Oh my God.

05:39:02.340 She's God-fearing, though.

05:39:03.200 I know, she's God-fearing, though.

05:39:04.300 Oh my God.

05:39:05.500 What's your answer, no, Mason?

05:39:06.400 But she's like, trying to chase me?

05:39:08.000 A naked woman trying to chase me?

05:39:09.440 I might call the cops in that situation.

05:39:11.500 I'd be like, I'm like, bro, she's trying to like.

05:39:14.980 Yeah.

05:39:15.220 But what if she was attractive?

05:39:16.540 She's on drugs.

05:39:17.640 What, what if she was attractive?

05:39:18.980 What if she was attractive?

05:39:19.880 Yeah.

05:39:20.440 But she's trying to like.

05:39:21.600 What if she bows?

05:39:23.420 What if she bows?

05:39:24.420 What if she bows?

05:39:25.400 What if she bows?

05:39:26.260 This is such a ridiculous scenario.

05:39:28.460 Like.

05:39:29.060 What if she bows naked?

05:39:30.900 I guess what he's saying is like, the standards are like different for like.

05:39:34.020 Legally, yes, it's, there is a double.

05:39:36.460 A hundred percent.

05:39:37.340 Legally, there's a double standard.

05:39:38.420 Wait, what?

05:39:39.240 Let's go back, though.

05:39:40.000 Let's go back.

05:39:40.640 I think you're saying how it manifests.

05:39:42.980 Oh, yeah.

05:39:43.520 So.

05:39:43.920 For you.

05:39:44.380 Um, in dating, um, it was very much black and white, like all or nothing.

05:39:52.020 So, for example, if this person didn't talk to me, for example, for an hour, I'm not saying

05:39:56.800 I'm like this now because I had a lot of therapy and I'm happy to say that I'm improved.

05:40:03.920 Um, I would block them and just never talk to them again if they didn't respond to my message.

05:40:11.260 Oh, impulsive.

05:40:12.740 But would you like.

05:40:13.900 Very impulsive.

05:40:14.380 Unblock them or just like straight up block them?

05:40:16.500 And then I would unblock them.

05:40:17.860 Oh, that's.

05:40:18.180 And then they'd be like, why did you do that?

05:40:20.480 And I'm like, I'm sorry.

05:40:21.940 The highs and lows a lot.

05:40:23.200 Yeah, very high, very low.

05:40:25.200 Um, and then, uh, I'm trying to think of another thing that I did because I don't do it a lot

05:40:33.140 anymore.

05:40:33.860 Uh, a lot of seeking validation.

05:40:36.580 Oh, okay.

05:40:37.600 So, a lot of people who have BPD are very impulsive.

05:40:41.760 So, it could be like drugs, uh, sex with money.

05:40:47.420 For me, it's with money, unfortunately.

05:40:50.100 Wait.

05:40:51.500 Prostitution?

05:40:52.460 Like, they have sex with a lot of people.

05:40:55.400 Wait, sex with money?

05:40:57.200 Hold on.

05:40:57.680 No, no, no.

05:40:58.340 Like, I'm talking.

05:40:58.920 Am I misunderstanding?

05:40:59.420 Like, spending, spending.

05:41:01.200 Impulsively spending.

05:41:02.380 I'm sorry.

05:41:03.000 Two different things, yes.

05:41:04.020 Yeah, my bad.

05:41:04.660 I'm sorry.

05:41:05.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:41:06.240 For me, it's, it's spending money.

05:41:09.300 Um, so, I'm definitely not proud of that.

05:41:14.220 Um, so, I kind of compensate by overworking and then that, that just gives me burnout.

05:41:20.320 Okay.

05:41:20.500 Um, but, for example, I, I've never been drunk.

05:41:24.560 I don't do drugs.

05:41:25.820 Oh, there you go.

05:41:26.640 Um, so, I mean, I, I, I got high, but that was, anyways, but a lot of people do that.

05:41:37.140 What?

05:41:37.700 What?

05:41:38.240 I didn't say anything.

05:41:39.680 Total worst one.

05:41:41.220 No, no.

05:41:42.520 Okay.

05:41:43.300 Well, it's legal in California.

05:41:45.320 Okay.

05:41:46.500 Yeah, so, I didn't go down that route.

05:41:49.260 It was more spending money.

05:41:50.940 Um, luckily, I do have a good relationship with my family where they were like,

05:41:56.320 you need help.

05:41:57.180 We're going to help you.

05:41:59.060 So, yeah.

05:42:01.400 And I ruined a lot of relationships.

05:42:05.000 Can you give us, like, one, like, the most glaring example?

05:42:10.600 Like, actually get into what you did that just destroyed one of these relationships

05:42:16.400 because of the BPD.

05:42:19.840 Um, I'm trying to think.

05:42:26.060 Manslaughter?

05:42:27.180 Yeah.

05:42:27.760 No, I'm just kidding.

05:42:28.780 Um, it's more like taking things to the extreme.

05:42:34.840 How so?

05:42:35.600 Um, so, I would go so far to ask, like, do you like me?

05:42:41.320 Do you still like me?

05:42:42.300 Oh, you don't like me because you're, like, we're not hanging out.

05:42:45.900 Yeah, you overthink everything.

05:42:47.580 But not only that, you would, like, would you constantly do it?

05:42:50.820 Constantly.

05:42:51.340 Like, it wasn't, you would, like, every time you saw the person.

05:42:54.400 Every time.

05:42:55.040 Every time.

05:42:56.040 It was, it's really awful.

05:42:58.460 And I'm not proud of that I did that.

05:43:00.780 I didn't have any control over myself.

05:43:02.980 Yeah.

05:43:03.100 Um, and it's just, it's really overwhelming.

05:43:09.620 Um, and like I said, I don't like how people are saying, like, oh, yeah, I have BPD.

05:43:15.480 I'm insane.

05:43:16.360 Like, I don't, I wish I didn't have it.

05:43:21.440 And a lot of BPD actually stems from trauma from childhood.

05:43:24.420 So, a big chunk of my childhood is.

05:43:27.100 Don't tell us details, but you can be general.

05:43:29.620 No, I don't remember it.

05:43:30.680 Okay.

05:43:31.480 Oh.

05:43:31.900 Because you blocked it.

05:43:32.840 Because the human brain is insane.

05:43:35.440 It, it can block huge chunks of your memory and it can only be brought back, which I don't

05:43:41.580 know if anyone believes in, in hypnotherapy.

05:43:43.300 So, it gives you, gets you into, like, a deeper state of consciousness.

05:43:48.900 Because, like we said, we, we don't know anything about the human brain.

05:43:52.720 Or, a lot.

05:43:53.960 Yeah.

05:43:54.600 I have one more question for you on something else you've said.

05:43:57.700 But before I get there, we always do it every single show.

05:44:04.640 Does body count matter?

05:44:06.740 Yes.

05:44:07.380 Starting with you?

05:44:09.040 To a certain extent.

05:44:10.340 Like, if it's too big, it's concerning.

05:44:13.300 Okay.

05:44:14.220 Same response.

05:44:15.720 If, yeah.

05:44:16.500 Not too many.

05:44:17.400 Yes.

05:44:19.820 Kind of.

05:44:21.000 STDs matter.

05:44:22.480 Okay.

05:44:22.920 Yeah, that's fair.

05:44:23.980 Yes, it matters.

05:44:25.120 Yes.

05:44:25.720 Yes, body count matters.

05:44:27.380 Yeah, of course.

05:44:29.200 So, follow-up question.

05:44:32.680 Do you think it's insecure for a man to care about a woman's body count?

05:44:35.560 Only if it's one of the first things they bring up.

05:44:41.180 First thing.

05:44:43.380 Hi, nice to meet you, Cindy.

05:44:45.500 What's your body?

05:44:46.220 What's your body count?

05:44:47.520 How many penises?

05:44:48.520 It's like, wow.

05:44:53.600 No, it's not insecure.

05:44:55.280 I feel like if it's the first thing, that's a little indicative.

05:44:58.520 That's my go-to.

05:44:59.840 That's what they're thinking about.

05:45:00.340 What's your body count?

05:45:01.400 Good to meet you.

05:45:01.700 And can you bow?

05:45:02.980 Also, can you bow?

05:45:04.460 Body count, can you bow?

05:45:05.800 Also, like, if he has a higher body count, and he is, like, super, like, weird about you

05:45:11.500 having a body count, like, over three or something, and, like, he has a higher body count than

05:45:17.360 you, I think that's really weird.

05:45:18.720 I'm just, it's just.

05:45:19.480 Eh, I don't think it's that weird.

05:45:21.020 Hypocritical.

05:45:21.660 No, not really.

05:45:22.500 Why don't you think it's weird?

05:45:23.460 I don't think it's that weird.

05:45:25.060 Well, I don't think, okay, I, here's my argument.

05:45:30.260 I don't think in order to desire a trait in a partner, you need to possess that trait.

05:45:36.400 Now, if you make a judgment about it, then that's different.

05:45:39.140 If you're, like, well, people who have high body counts are pieces of shit, and blah, blah,

05:45:45.100 but, like, then, and you have a high body count yourself, I don't even know if it'd be

05:45:50.340 hypocritical if you're, like, yeah, I'm a piece of shit.

05:45:52.400 Yeah, well, there you go.

05:45:53.580 I acknowledge I'm a piece of shit.

05:45:55.340 Yeah, that'd be one thing.

05:45:56.600 But if you're judging someone, because you're, what would you consider a high body count?

05:46:01.740 What is a high body count?

05:46:02.040 I mean, it depends on age.

05:46:03.360 It depends on age.

05:46:04.260 Okay, so let's say someone in 30 years old.

05:46:07.440 I think once you get over 10, I think that's a pretty good cutoff.

05:46:10.280 I'm at 10 years old.

05:46:11.580 Oh, my God.

05:46:12.200 I took three per second till I met 10 years old.

05:46:15.140 No, 10, the body count, the body count.

05:46:18.380 Jesus Christ.

05:46:20.120 Regardless of age.

05:46:21.020 I'm trying to these fucking girls.

05:46:23.400 Yes.

05:46:24.440 Yeah, body count over 10.

05:46:26.160 That's high.

05:46:27.080 Okay.

05:46:28.380 Getting into the high territory.

05:46:30.280 High for a woman or for a man?

05:46:32.780 Well, I'm not in favor of male promiscuity either.

05:46:35.300 Right.

05:46:36.220 I'm either.

05:46:36.640 But, I mean, I do think there are differences between men and women.

05:46:42.640 But I don't think it's necessarily hypocritical or weird.

05:46:46.120 Because, like, for example, as a guy, let's say you've accumulated the high body count.

05:46:51.440 And perhaps you realized, like, you've had a shift.

05:46:54.140 And you're like, ah, actually, this was not the correct way to move in the dating marketplace.

05:46:58.180 I actually have determined I value long-term relationships.

05:47:03.180 And I acknowledge that having a high body count, having a promiscuous past, having a lot of sexual partners is bad in a lot of ways.

05:47:13.160 Because there's a potential higher risk of STDs, as you mentioned.

05:47:16.140 There's an impact on pair bonding.

05:47:18.140 There's a greater likelihood of infidelity.

05:47:20.880 There's a greater likelihood of a purporting relationship dissatisfaction.

05:47:24.960 And there's a greater likelihood, if you're inclined to get married, a greater likelihood of divorce.

05:47:28.880 And they've studied this, so the more premarital sexual partners you've had, the greater likelihood of all those things.

05:47:37.200 So you can, like, realize, oh, I fucked up.

05:47:40.360 But if I'm going to make the most optimum dating choice I can, the most optimum dating choice might include dating somebody who's not promiscuous, doesn't have a promiscuous past, has a low body count.

05:47:51.880 I don't think that that's objectionable.

05:47:54.700 So what if you were to meet a woman that went through the exact same experience you did?

05:48:01.440 She had a past like that where she was very promiscuous, and then she decided that that was not the direction she wanted to go.

05:48:08.540 Would you still judge her for having a high body count, even though she went through the same realization you did?

05:48:16.600 So the question is, would I judge her?

05:48:18.900 She had the same realization, promiscuous past.

05:48:21.060 Same, like, let's just say she has the same body count, like, exact same, like, basically experience you did, but as a woman.

05:48:30.000 So here's the scenario.

05:48:31.160 I have 100, I'm not saying this is my body count.

05:48:33.400 I have 100 body count.

05:48:35.340 She has 100 body count.

05:48:36.520 We both came to the realization that this is not, you know, this being promiscuous is not good.

05:48:43.960 Trying to, you know, turn a new leaf.

05:48:47.140 Yeah, I would disqualify her.

05:48:49.260 I would disqualify her.

05:48:50.580 100 body count, done.

05:48:51.520 So I think that's hypocritical.

05:48:53.140 It's not hypocritical.

05:48:54.340 It's not hypocritical.

05:48:56.520 It can be your preference, but I think it's hypocritical.

05:48:59.180 No, because you're not obliged to date somebody.

05:49:02.600 You can use any sort of judgment or disqualifying metrics that you can use to disqualify somebody.

05:49:09.480 Totally.

05:49:10.080 It's not hypocritical.

05:49:11.340 How are you doing?

05:49:11.560 I wouldn't date this, okay, do you think that in order to date somebody, you need to possess all the same traits in order to date them?

05:49:21.000 No, I'm just saying, if you're going to, so basically, you have this preference because, in my head at least,

05:49:28.700 because you are at least judging some part of that body count because that is, like, taking everything else aside, you are judging her body count.

05:49:38.100 Sure.

05:49:39.060 Okay.

05:49:39.480 Let's say I am.

05:49:40.140 So what I'm saying is that you judging her body count, when you did the exact same thing and have the exact same body count, is hypocritical.

05:49:49.500 No, I don't think so.

05:49:51.360 I don't think it is.

05:49:52.180 I'm saying you're entitled to that opinion, but I think it's hypocritical.

05:49:56.340 I think it would be hypocritical if you were making a criticism of them.

05:50:06.960 Like, if you're like, you're a piece of shit, but I'm not a piece of shit, but you're a piece of shit.

05:50:13.420 But if it's like, well, I did this, but I acknowledge, if I'm trying to maximize the type of partner that I want to be with, despite myself doing it, I acknowledge that this is a terrible thing to have in a partner.

05:50:29.600 Or this is a bad thing to have in a partner.

05:50:32.020 I don't think it's hypocritical because then you're just making an optimization when it comes to who you choose to date and not date.

05:50:39.500 But basically, you want to be accepted by someone that is okay with your body count.

05:50:47.660 So you want someone to not judge your own body count, but you are willing to judge someone else for that body count.

05:50:54.240 So I think in a general sense, it is hypocritical.

05:50:58.660 But again, so are you obliged to date someone who, are you saying you cannot date somebody?

05:51:06.220 No, that's what I'm saying.

05:51:07.280 Okay, in order for you to want to be with someone, need you be exactly the same?

05:51:15.240 Not at all.

05:51:16.360 Okay.

05:51:17.340 Like, so are there things that you desire in a partner that you yourself don't possess?

05:51:22.920 Sure.

05:51:23.800 Like what?

05:51:26.400 Maybe they're really good at sports.

05:51:30.480 I don't have that ability.

05:51:33.640 Okay.

05:51:33.880 Maybe I'm, you know, maybe, or maybe they're really good at playing the violin.

05:51:42.020 Well, I'll give you a couple examples, right?

05:51:44.860 Because there's a whole, if we're speaking in generalities here, there's a lot of things that women possess in men that they very frequently never possess in themselves.

05:51:56.040 So maybe this is more double standard than hypocrisy.

05:52:00.840 But for example, because you're saying, well, if a guy has a high body count and he wants a woman with a low body count, that would be hypocritical.

05:52:08.400 But what about women, for example, who are not funny, who desire a man who's funny?

05:52:13.340 There's a lot of women who really value humor in a partner.

05:52:16.460 But they are not, they're not funny at all.

05:52:19.660 Would you agree with that?

05:52:21.040 Yeah, sure.

05:52:21.520 Okay.

05:52:21.880 What about a woman who's broke, but she's attracted to a billionaire?

05:52:25.960 Would you fault her for that attraction?

05:52:31.100 Wait, say that again?

05:52:32.600 Would you fault a woman who's broke being attracted to a billionaire?

05:52:36.140 Let's say she has access to dating a billionaire.

05:52:38.400 Would it be hypocritical of her to date, to take the opportunity to date what is an optimal dating move?

05:52:46.360 I think the difference is, is that if a guy were to possess all the qualities she wanted, but like was also broke like her and she turned him down, I think that is a little bit hypocritical.

05:52:57.660 Maybe she has her reasons for it, or maybe it's a double standard, whatever, you know, word you'd use to describe it.

05:53:03.220 But I think like she can have those preferences.

05:53:07.460 I think that she's going to turn away someone that has the same qualities as her, but she wants something better.

05:53:14.100 I think it is a little funny, you know, like, and that's kind of all I'm saying.

05:53:19.200 I'm saying you can have that preference and like, and you know, that's what you want.

05:53:23.780 I'm just saying that it is kind of funny that that is your standard when you can, when you yourself don't meet that standard.

05:53:30.580 Well, I mean, then everybody in the history of dating, I would argue, is engaging in this double standard of hypocrisy.

05:53:39.380 Because again, I would argue that the vast majority of women desire traits in men that they don't possess.

05:53:47.260 That's true.

05:53:48.080 Like, okay, look, I'll just go down the list.

05:53:52.080 I have it written down here.

05:53:53.100 So, okay, you'll, they'll want a traditional man, but they're not traditional.

05:53:56.640 So chivalry, you'll have modern women who really strongly desire like all the chivalrous treatment, but they're like super modern women.

05:54:06.440 They want a charismatic man.

05:54:08.580 What woman doesn't want a charismatic guy, but they're totally devoid of any charisma at all.

05:54:13.880 Well, this one's not totally fair because there's sexual dimorphism, but a tall, you know, women want tall men, but they're not tall.

05:54:23.560 It doesn't make them hypocrites.

05:54:26.100 They want a guy who's strong, but maybe they're not physically strong themselves.

05:54:29.480 They want a dominant man, but they're not dominant.

05:54:31.320 They want a man who takes initiative, but they've never taken initiative in their life.

05:54:35.740 They want a man to chase, but they don't chase.

05:54:38.040 They want a man who's confident, but they're not confident.

05:54:39.860 Loose pussy energy donated $100.

05:54:42.960 Oh, there it is.

05:54:43.640 A 304 admitted she was thinking of a chad while her simp husband was fucking her.

05:54:49.220 Then she divorced his ass.

05:54:51.140 Pair bonding is real and body count is matters.

05:54:54.380 Abdul, get the fucking rocks.

05:54:56.880 Get the rocks.

05:54:58.320 Get the rocks.

05:54:59.580 Thank you, man.

05:55:00.340 Appreciate it.

05:55:00.940 LP, appreciate it.

05:55:02.680 And look, there's some dudes that are maybe delusional and desiring like all these traits and women that, well.

05:55:10.640 Vashizzle?

05:55:11.080 What?

05:55:14.340 What?

05:55:15.740 Okay, so here's a bit of a differential on the whole body count thing, right?

05:55:22.540 So I think men tend to care far more about body count than do women.

05:55:27.480 And one of the reasons is based in evo psych, evolutionary psychology.

05:55:31.160 So one of the reasons why I think men care far more about this than women when it comes to either female virginity or lack of promiscuity or just having a low body count.

05:55:40.200 So I believe it was in the 1980s when we were able to, you know, we started sequencing DNA.

05:55:46.620 We could determine the paternity of fathers with certainty.

05:55:50.100 Prior to the 1980s, and again, even with the invention of DNA testing, that doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution in this regard.

05:56:03.380 So if a woman gets pregnant, you know for certain that she's the mother in every instance.

05:56:11.100 Like if you're pregnant, well, you're carrying the child.

05:56:13.820 So that's, there's no doubt to the maternity.

05:56:16.260 But when it comes to paternity, there's not really a way to know.

05:56:21.700 Now I know we have DNA tests now, but that doesn't, again, it doesn't undo, you know, the hundreds of thousands of years of evolution here.

05:56:29.780 So men, they can't, we can't know who the father is, really.

05:56:36.020 Like unless we had our eyes on you 24-7, one of the biggest L's that you can take in life as a guy is to raise a child that you think is yours but isn't.

05:56:48.800 So men have a much more vested interest in ensuring the paternity of their children, whereas for women, there's never a doubt of who's the parent for you.

05:56:58.740 That's never a concern.

05:56:59.700 For example, if a man has 10 wives who are all loyal to him, you know who the father is and you know who the mother is for each of those children that ends up getting born.

05:57:12.840 But if one woman has 10 husbands and they're all assumed before, you know, assume there's no DNA testing, and all those men, the 10 men are having sex with that woman, you don't know who the father is.

05:57:26.980 Who's the father?

05:57:27.560 Okay, and so how does this relate to body count?

05:57:32.660 Well, that's why men care about it more, because there's an evolutionary psychology basis.

05:57:36.220 All right, so you're saying it's in our DNA to care?

05:57:40.840 There's social, there's cultural reasons, but there is an evolutionary reason for men to care more about this.

05:57:47.280 And that's why men tend to be more territorial.

05:57:50.020 Okay.

05:57:50.240 Women are very territorial for a different reason, though, and that comes down to, like, since men tend to fall into the provider role, women will be much more territorial when it comes to male provisioning.

05:58:02.740 So if a male is, like, for example, paying for another girl's OnlyFans and you're in a relationship with him, that's, like, a huge fucking slight to a woman.

05:58:10.040 Or as a woman, like, you might be, like, object more to a man, like, financially providing for another woman as compared to, like, sexual infidelity.

05:58:19.660 They're both bad, don't get me wrong, but, like, that'd be...

05:58:23.040 I mean, I probably would care more about infidelity.

05:58:26.980 That's fine.

05:58:27.460 But, yeah.

05:58:27.960 That's fine.

05:58:29.440 Relating to the body count, though, and how, I can see how over the years that has mattered, but I think now that you have genetic testing, it kind of does take it away, and now it's...

05:58:40.080 It doesn't, though.

05:58:41.840 Like, you're saying we're kind of wired, like, men are wired to care about body count.

05:58:46.560 But you can't intellectualize that gut thing away.

05:58:52.340 Yeah.

05:58:53.040 Like, if it's ingrained...

05:58:54.600 Could it also just be how guys are raised, you know, that there's kind of, like, just, like, through culture, you know, maybe that is also part of it.

05:59:01.380 What's the culture?

05:59:02.340 The culture that body count matters for women.

05:59:04.580 Does it not matter?

05:59:05.220 That women...

05:59:06.220 I feel like...

05:59:07.220 I don't think it matters more for women than men, but, you know, I think...

05:59:16.220 Well...

05:59:17.220 Yeah.

05:59:18.760 I mean, I've already made the argument for paternity certainty, so there's that component, but culturally speaking, who do you think is more desirous of virgins, men or women?

05:59:30.980 I think with purity culture, I would think men.

05:59:35.180 Purity culture.

05:59:36.080 Okay.

05:59:36.280 Well, it seems to me that there's not, like, a large subset of women who are, like...

05:59:41.840 Even women who have lost their own virginity who are, like, wow, it would be really cool to, like, hook up or date someone who's a virgin.

05:59:50.560 Whereas I think there's a much higher proportion of men who'd be interested in that.

05:59:54.700 I agree.

05:59:56.400 And so you're saying that's because of evolution?

05:59:59.620 Or what you're talking about?

06:00:00.220 I think there's a biological basis.

06:00:01.600 There's a cultural basis.

06:00:02.780 I think there's a religious basis.

06:00:05.200 I think that has been, like, a major part.

06:00:07.720 I mean, Christianity, obviously.

06:00:09.360 Yes, that's fair.

06:00:10.480 But I think it probably varies depending on each culture.

06:00:14.680 But I think in the U.S., religion has been a huge part of it.

06:00:17.720 Like, also, the way that women were used, like, used in marriages.

06:00:26.060 Yeah.

06:00:26.240 What do you mean, used in marriages?

06:00:27.680 Used in marriages, like, to form alliances.

06:00:30.840 And they were expected to be pure for their husbands and arrange marriages.

06:00:35.000 That's what I was talking about.

06:00:36.280 I think they were being used.

06:00:37.720 But, yeah.

06:00:38.300 They were being...

06:00:38.860 I don't know.

06:00:39.380 I kind of object to the term used.

06:00:41.340 But, I mean, I would argue that...

06:00:43.520 Are you talking, like...

06:00:44.280 Arranged marriages.

06:00:45.140 Not currently.

06:00:46.040 In the past.

06:00:46.720 How they were...

06:00:47.720 Arranged marriages were...

06:00:49.080 Women were being used.

06:00:50.800 Yeah.

06:00:51.300 I don't...

06:00:51.620 They were being used?

06:00:52.380 What about the men who were also part of that?

06:00:54.860 Like, there's two sides of that.

06:00:56.300 The man was arranged to marry her, too.

06:00:58.660 Yeah.

06:00:59.100 But he also...

06:01:00.200 He didn't get a choice.

06:01:01.140 Okay.

06:01:01.640 But here's the thing.

06:01:02.840 And usually this is how it went.

06:01:04.520 That it was just, like, they could have mistresses.

06:01:06.540 They could pretty much continue their life.

06:01:08.680 Could they?

06:01:09.400 Yeah.

06:01:09.800 Are you talking, like, monarchs?

06:01:11.180 Like, maybe kings and stuff?

06:01:12.340 Yeah.

06:01:12.760 I'm not talking about, like...

06:01:13.860 Okay, now...

06:01:14.480 I don't know if the peasantry really had much access.

06:01:16.620 This to mistresses.

06:01:17.240 No, that was...

06:01:17.900 Yeah, that was more...

06:01:18.620 I mean, I think for...

06:01:19.980 Maybe you can speak better on this, but my understanding of Christianity is that...

06:01:23.680 Well, not Christianity specifically, yeah.

06:01:24.720 Of monogamy was pretty...

06:01:28.240 That was the...

06:01:29.620 Okay, sorry.

06:01:30.280 I was talking...

06:01:30.680 I kind of, like, went all over the place.

06:01:32.220 A little bit.

06:01:32.800 Yeah.

06:01:33.160 So, okay.

06:01:33.680 I'll stick to Christianity.

06:01:34.720 I think that, just, like, the whole religion itself with Mary being pregnant and still being

06:01:40.880 a virgin.

06:01:42.860 I think that, like, that, like, religion was founded on women being pure.

06:01:48.240 And the fact that...

06:01:49.240 Is that a bad thing for women to be pure?

06:01:51.580 I...

06:01:52.260 I don't think it's a bad thing in itself if women choose that.

06:01:57.980 But when they are expected to be pure and it's kind of...

06:02:02.980 And when they're not, like, allowed to do what they want or aren't allowed to have access

06:02:07.100 to, like, birth control and stuff and stuff like that.

06:02:10.560 It's a bigger issue.

06:02:11.720 Yeah, we don't have to get into that.

06:02:13.000 I'm just saying it can't have...

06:02:14.100 What is...

06:02:14.580 So, what would be the counter...

06:02:16.280 What would be the alternative to purity?

06:02:18.220 The alternative?

06:02:18.940 Degeneracy?

06:02:20.260 Yeah, but it doesn't have to be, like, a complete...

06:02:23.060 Like, you know, if it's a scale and, like, this is one...

06:02:25.420 It doesn't...

06:02:25.740 We don't have to go to the complete other side.

06:02:27.960 I'm just saying that it's all about just, like, women being able to choose.

06:02:33.300 Do you think women are happy with hookup culture, though?

06:02:36.180 Not necessarily, yeah.

06:02:36.940 I don't think even women are happy with it.

06:02:39.120 No, I'm not saying...

06:02:40.220 I'm not saying that you have to go to hookup culture.

06:02:43.220 Well, that's...

06:02:44.260 Isn't that the status quo?

06:02:46.280 No, but, like, you can...

06:02:47.260 You live in Isla Vista.

06:02:48.240 I do, yeah.

06:02:49.280 Is hookup culture the status quo?

06:02:51.060 It is here, yeah, for sure.

06:02:52.180 I mean, you said you've been single for 20 years.

06:02:53.840 I would actually make the argument that women in history in patriarchal societies were happier

06:02:58.600 than women are today in our society.

06:03:01.860 Should we talk about...

06:03:02.500 I mean, I would disagree with that.

06:03:04.520 I want to get to the part.

06:03:05.500 We'll get to that really quick.

06:03:07.480 I have one...

06:03:08.120 The underscore, old underscore, ball underscore in Minnesota donated $100.

06:03:13.760 Men, this BSD gen shit's extremely unnatural.

06:03:17.500 Sickly carpenters dream whip it out.

06:03:20.020 Granny calls PP, not VVV, get the ruler gramps, forgot to take measure.

06:03:25.120 Help him stop fucking with nature, hashtag faffo you rock brain.

06:03:30.060 He called me brain.

06:03:32.100 Yo, thank you, man.

06:03:33.400 The old bull in Minnesota.

06:03:35.220 Minnesota.

06:03:36.160 Thank you, man.

06:03:36.640 Whose side is he on?

06:03:38.040 Minnesota.

06:03:38.680 I don't know which side he was on.

06:03:40.220 Wait, we'll come to that really quick.

06:03:42.120 That'll probably be the last topic of conversation.

06:03:44.020 Really quick on the body count thing.

06:03:46.760 What's your body count starting with you?

06:03:49.440 Zero.

06:03:50.780 Five.

06:03:52.060 Nine.

06:03:53.260 Pass.

06:03:53.660 Oh, come on.

06:03:55.140 Range?

06:03:56.440 Range?

06:03:57.040 Less than ten.

06:03:59.080 Eight.

06:04:00.820 Seven?

06:04:01.780 Eight.

06:04:02.980 Eight.

06:04:04.220 Pass.

06:04:04.900 Oh, come on.

06:04:05.720 Sorry.

06:04:06.120 You can't do that.

06:04:07.600 I don't want to answer, like, not on here or not.

06:04:10.080 Over ten?

06:04:11.320 Yes.

06:04:11.960 Over twenty?

06:04:12.620 No.

06:04:13.260 Over fifty?

06:04:14.300 No.

06:04:14.840 Over a hundred?

06:04:15.860 Hell no.

06:04:17.120 Sorry.

06:04:17.640 Sorry.

06:04:17.960 I was just...

06:04:18.800 Yeah, okay.

06:04:19.560 What about you?

06:04:20.900 Four.

06:04:21.260 Four.

06:04:24.200 Cool.

06:04:25.740 Cool.

06:04:26.860 Multiply it by three and that's the real number.

06:04:28.900 For all of you.

06:04:29.740 I'm not singling any of you out.

06:04:31.860 You're looking me directly in my eyes when you say that.

06:04:35.460 You gotta do the math there.

06:04:37.100 Do the math, boys.

06:04:38.200 Do the math.

06:04:38.640 I know it's complicated.

06:04:39.340 Okay.

06:04:41.600 Wait, so the patriarchy, is that what...

06:04:44.100 Is that what you guys want to talk about?

06:04:45.800 Let's talk about...

06:04:46.300 Really quick.

06:04:46.720 Oh, who here considers themselves a feminist?

06:04:50.620 Feminist?

06:04:52.800 Not really.

06:04:53.400 Sure.

06:04:53.840 Come on.

06:04:54.240 You don't know?

06:04:55.760 Just there's so many...

06:04:56.960 Like, there's different waves of feminism, too.

06:04:59.000 I don't know.

06:04:59.520 Maybe, like, first-gen...

06:05:00.320 First, yeah.

06:05:02.200 Is there...

06:05:02.820 How about this?

06:05:03.480 We were talking about...

06:05:04.220 We'll go around here.

06:05:06.320 Feminist?

06:05:06.760 No.

06:05:07.120 Feminist?

06:05:08.200 Is there a patriarchy?

06:05:11.900 To an extent, yeah.

06:05:13.940 To an extent, yeah?

06:05:15.380 Okay.

06:05:16.640 Same.

06:05:17.200 Yeah.

06:05:17.840 No.

06:05:19.700 Yeah.

06:05:21.080 Yeah.

06:05:21.440 Yeah.

06:05:21.500 Do I understand that, yes?

06:05:25.780 No.

06:05:27.060 Yeah.

06:05:28.020 Oh, there is a patriarchy.

06:05:29.520 Okay.

06:05:29.860 Yeah, thank goodness.

06:05:30.800 We may be different on this.

06:05:32.380 I reject that there's a patriarchy.

06:05:34.400 I reject the patriarchy, although there's...

06:05:38.060 People have different definitions of what that is.

06:05:40.960 Well, so those of you who said yes, so what is the patriarchy?

06:05:47.220 Well, the majority of things are just kind of innately built for men.

06:05:52.500 For men.

06:05:53.180 So, some different examples, like the medical industry, a lot of things are first researched

06:05:59.440 and tested on how they affect men.

06:06:01.900 So, women don't always know what all the effects for them are going to be.

06:06:05.520 Well, can I give you two counterpoints on that really quick?

06:06:08.520 I know you want to list some other things.

06:06:09.860 So, if I may.

06:06:11.460 One of the reasons that that is...

06:06:14.380 There's actually three reasons.

06:06:15.780 So, hold on.

06:06:16.500 Let me just make sure I remember them all.

06:06:18.420 Okay.

06:06:19.880 One, sometimes women don't know if they're pregnant.

06:06:23.220 So, if you're testing some sort of new drug, for example, on a woman and she's pregnant

06:06:28.640 and this drug has potentially could have birth defects, well, could cause birth defects, for

06:06:37.940 example, that's almost like an attempt to protect women and to protect unborn children,

06:06:44.280 for example.

06:06:45.060 So, that's one of the reasons why typically they'll do testing more so on men than women

06:06:51.820 is the risk to a potential unknown unborn child.

06:06:56.360 Do you think that's a fair thing?

06:06:58.960 That's reasonable?

06:07:00.020 Not necessarily, because I'm sure there's plenty of women who know for a fact they're

06:07:03.580 not pregnant and shouldn't be excluded from research studies.

06:07:07.960 Sure, but that's one consideration.

06:07:10.240 The other consideration is that could it also be the case that men are more willing to participate

06:07:19.240 in these sorts of studies where they're getting injected or pumped full of experimental drugs.

06:07:29.700 And women tend to have care a bit more about their health and are less willing to put their

06:07:34.420 health at risk in a, you know, to test out some brand new drug.

06:07:40.880 That could be a factor, but I still don't see why that would prevent there from being enough

06:07:44.680 research on women.

06:07:46.140 There still could be more done.

06:07:48.720 I agree.

06:07:49.220 Perhaps.

06:07:49.820 I feel like it has more to do with the fact that women are harder to predict with their

06:07:54.240 hormones and the cycles.

06:07:56.260 That's the other thing, the impact of hormones.

06:07:59.340 Which is like, I can understand how that makes research harder, but at the same time,

06:08:04.660 women are, you know, like half the population.

06:08:06.600 So the other thing I wanted to just add to that is that, I mean, I could make a counter

06:08:12.880 argument saying, well, when it comes to birth control, for example, there's like dozens

06:08:18.500 of birth control options for women.

06:08:21.760 There's zero birth control options for men.

06:08:25.780 I mean, there's vasectomy and, but that, I mean, I don't really.

06:08:29.680 My counter argument to that would be because birth control is unpleasant most of the time.

06:08:34.260 And so the burden of it is placed on us.

06:08:36.860 If it were truly equal, then there would be just as many options for men as well.

06:08:42.360 Well, I think part of it is that it's, it's, if there was a birth control available for men,

06:08:50.100 it would put a lot of reproductive control.

06:08:54.040 It would give men a substantial amount of reproductive control.

06:08:58.060 And it's interesting to me that there hasn't been one that's developed.

06:09:04.260 I would like there for be, for there to be one.

06:09:06.760 It would be nice if we all had options.

06:09:09.080 And also my understanding is when it comes to being able to control reproduction,

06:09:15.760 the mechanisms by which that's done vary so greatly between men and women.

06:09:21.040 You say, well, it would be uncomfortable for men, but it's much, and perhaps this is why

06:09:26.400 there hasn't really been a development in men's birth control is that it's actually far just easier

06:09:32.240 to find mechanisms to control women's, you know, to provide birth control for women as compared to men.

06:09:41.640 The mechanism is far more difficult there.

06:09:44.620 And I've heard that the drugs are much more impactful on men than their counterparts in women.

06:09:51.660 Okay.

06:09:53.380 But okay, let's not linger too long on that.

06:09:56.320 You had more examples of the patriarchy.

06:09:58.860 Oh.

06:09:59.380 That's where we were going there.

06:10:00.480 So it's nothing to, I'm not bringing up anything that's too deep or serious.

06:10:04.980 It's just examples of things that are kind of made with men as the default in mind.

06:10:08.740 Like cars, for example, impact in a crash is made with the survivability test done on male mannequins.

06:10:15.600 So it's not really built for our bodies.

06:10:19.980 We're not quite as likely to survive.

06:10:22.000 Isn't that just the nature of a, oh, sorry.

06:10:27.400 Isn't that just the, like, the nature of a vehicle impact?

06:10:31.640 It doesn't have to be, though.

06:10:33.740 No.

06:10:33.940 I mean, like, as a student of physics, it doesn't really matter what the object is.

06:10:39.440 Like, the impact is going to be the same amount of force.

06:10:41.940 Like, the mannequin has titties?

06:10:42.860 No.

06:10:43.120 Like, do we have to give the mannequin titties?

06:10:45.160 I don't think so.

06:10:46.220 Yeah.

06:10:46.600 I do know what you're talking about, though.

06:10:47.920 Yeah.

06:10:48.040 I feel it, mostly it's just that impact.

06:10:50.880 We have to do, like, a lot more, like, adjustments for the car.

06:10:53.180 We have to lower the wheel, like, way lower, so that if we were to get impacted, it would hit our chest and not our face.

06:11:00.280 But you have the option to lower the wheel.

06:11:02.400 Yeah.

06:11:02.680 Which is good.

06:11:03.380 Yeah.

06:11:03.580 So, I mean, like, but those advancements benefit both men and women.

06:11:09.860 Like, it's not the man's fault that he's more substantial, like, body-wise.

06:11:16.660 Like, I don't see, like, I guess, yeah, you could make an argument.

06:11:20.720 That it's not equal, that men are more, or less fragile than women.

06:11:27.220 Yeah, that's true.

06:11:28.440 But, like, yeah, I just don't see how we can remedy that.

06:11:33.960 I think it mostly.

06:11:34.460 Like, what's the system there that makes men less fragile than women?

06:11:38.880 I think it mostly has to do with, like, the height of stuff.

06:11:42.400 Like, I think that what you guys are saying is that it has.

06:11:45.120 It's, like, accommodations and stuff.

06:11:46.660 Because I haven't, like, actually, I've only heard about this.

06:11:50.260 I don't really know much about it to really comment on it.

06:11:52.340 But I think what you guys are talking about is that, like, for example, like, the seatbelt has to, like, sit, like, a certain way.

06:11:58.520 But if you're, like, usually you can adjust, like, the, you know, the part where it connects to the car.

06:12:03.580 But, like, if you're, like, for me, at least, I am average height for a woman.

06:12:08.500 And I still struggle to, like, adjust the seat and adjust, like, you know, everything in the car to my height.

06:12:14.460 And, like, if I was any shorter, like, I don't know if I could really see that well over the steering wheel.

06:12:18.860 Stuff like that that it's just, like, it's not really designed.

06:12:20.820 Well, I mean, I could make the same argument for short men.

06:12:23.960 I know.

06:12:24.300 Like, I mean, there are things, like, men experience, like, what about Shaq?

06:12:28.980 I mean, he has to buy specific cars.

06:12:31.160 Like, I can come up with examples as well.

06:12:33.360 Like, are we prejudiced against those men?

06:12:36.620 I think it's just on average, she's saying, like, he's most likely one of the men to struggle with cars.

06:12:43.000 Well, I don't totally buy that.

06:12:45.120 I'm just saying, like, women, yeah, I don't see it as a product of the patriarchy.

06:12:50.620 I just see it as a product of women being a little more fragile than men.

06:12:54.620 Can I, I want to jump in really quick back on the, like, you were saying, like, drug experiments were mostly, are the.

06:13:03.240 Not necessarily just drugs, just medical.

06:13:04.600 So your argument is there's evidence of a patriarchy because men are human guinea pigs?

06:13:10.580 Is that your.

06:13:11.360 No, because a lot of these research that are done in that way are not necessarily in that kind of.

06:13:16.440 Well, you can make the argument that somehow, because it's more well-researched in men, that perhaps these medications, it's better understood their impact in men, which could ostensibly down the road have a negative impact in women because it wasn't studied enough.

06:13:30.820 However, if we're looking at the actual fact that men are the human guinea pigs for these experimental drug treatments, couldn't you make an opposite argument that men are so desperate to, for money, that they're willing to under, like, go into these studies?

06:13:49.740 If they're making, if the people designing the studies have to, you know, find the people they're doing the research on.

06:13:57.720 So they have to tell, you know, tell the public of if they're looking for males or females.

06:14:03.280 So what if there's just less women who are willing to volunteer?

06:14:07.440 I doubt it.

06:14:08.180 I doubt it.

06:14:08.200 I'm out of the whole world.

06:14:09.760 You can, I'm sure you can find women.

06:14:11.880 You know what I mean?

06:14:12.660 Like, I, like, I'm sure that if you're offering money, there's enough, there's going to be enough women to do it.

06:14:18.240 Like, do you think, let's, okay, are men or, do you think men or women are more likely to be willing to, maybe they're in a bind financially?

06:14:28.120 I don't think people are being human guinea pigs for, like, benevolent reasons.

06:14:34.140 I think they do it because they need money.

06:14:36.360 Yeah.

06:14:36.580 I don't think they're like, I want to help advance science.

06:14:39.620 Go inject me with this unknown thing.

06:14:42.260 I think they do it because they're desperate for money.

06:14:44.740 I'm also kind of interested.

06:14:45.680 I know, like, consumerism data for women, like, if you take 100% of people who consume things, 80% of that are women and 20% of that are men.

06:14:56.100 I wonder if that's the, you could make that same comparison to the medical industry.

06:15:00.320 Like, if 80% of the consumption in the medical industry is women and 20% men.

06:15:05.760 So I know in consumerism, just in general, women consume 80% of the stuffs.

06:15:10.800 So if you could carry that over to the medical industry, it wouldn't make much sense that, like, the medical industry is biasing all of their research towards men.

06:15:22.680 Now, I don't know.

06:15:23.740 Maybe it is.

06:15:24.600 But their consumer base, they know statistically is largely women.

06:15:30.220 It just doesn't make much sense to me.

06:15:32.180 I don't know.

06:15:32.800 Maybe there's, like, statistics to disprove that.

06:15:36.620 It's just, like, as I'm thinking through it, it just doesn't make too much sense.

06:15:41.140 No, yeah.

06:15:41.700 And what I think, I don't know if it's, like, women are purposely being discluded for, I don't even know, like, for what reason.

06:15:51.380 What I'm saying is that I think that women are being discluded because they're harder to do research on because of the tracking.

06:15:59.340 You know, it's, like, you'd have to put in more effort to somehow make all the, you know, take away the factors of hormones and cycles.

06:16:08.040 Right.

06:16:08.580 But, yeah.

06:16:09.380 To bring it back, so the original question was, I think, do we live under a patriarchy?

06:16:13.200 I was asking for a definition of what the patriarchy is, and you were kind of giving some examples.

06:16:19.500 So there's a car one, the human experimentation one.

06:16:28.160 So what is the patriarchy, I guess?

06:16:30.720 Well, what I originally said was just that things are originally made with just men as the blueprint, like the default idea when it should be for all of us.

06:16:40.880 Okay.

06:16:41.320 Pam, the two examples you provided seem to be a little bit niche.

06:16:51.680 Is there, what are some of the other examples of what a patriarchy is?

06:16:58.200 Well, for the longest time, well, until about, someone could give me an exact date, but until more recently, education was kept from women.

06:17:08.680 Education was kept from women?

06:17:09.960 Okay.

06:17:14.720 Can I say something?

06:17:17.180 So a lot of people don't realize that we are really not a patriarchy, because if you look in a lot of Middle Eastern countries, for example, Afghanistan, it's very much built around men.

06:17:32.080 That is truly a patriarchy.

06:17:34.020 Women can't drive, women can't drive, women can't go to school, women can't...

06:17:39.080 Actually, that's exactly what I was going to say to you.

06:17:41.700 You had something on women voting?

06:17:43.900 Yeah.

06:17:44.180 I don't think I agree with you, but go ahead, state your position.

06:17:49.260 I don't think women should be able to vote.

06:17:54.860 Hot take.

06:17:55.740 Wow.

06:17:58.680 With context, of course.

06:18:00.020 Because statistically, more women are Democrats, and if you were to take away women's votes, it would be more leaning towards Republican...

06:18:16.860 Conservative?

06:18:17.740 Yeah, conservative.

06:18:19.280 So you're conservative?

06:18:21.620 For the most part.

06:18:22.700 I'm libertarian, I would say.

06:18:24.180 Okay, I see.

06:18:24.800 So you...

06:18:25.460 I actually hold that position.

06:18:28.680 I'm sorry, Brian.

06:18:29.680 Wait, you want to get rid of women's votes?

06:18:32.460 What are you, a radical?

06:18:33.800 You fucking extremist?

06:18:35.560 I mean, I'm not saying like...

06:18:36.740 Radical extremist.

06:18:37.640 I just feel like it was a mistake.

06:18:40.320 So...

06:18:40.560 Wait, what was the mistake?

06:18:43.260 I want to give my reasoning.

06:18:44.400 Giving women's votes.

06:18:44.900 Because I say that, and I...

06:18:46.280 Yeah.

06:18:46.960 Hold on, let's let her give her reasoning first.

06:18:48.880 Give your reasoning.

06:18:50.360 Because if you think about it, by human nature, women were supposed to...

06:18:57.780 Biologically, are nurturers and caregivers for the family.

06:19:02.500 So by adding women to the workforce and giving them the right to vote, you're taking them

06:19:09.500 away from their natural, natural environment, which is being a mother, being a caregiver.

06:19:15.380 And that's...

06:19:16.500 I feel like that's what's making society crumble right now, because we're taking away from the

06:19:22.420 nuclear family.

06:19:24.340 I completely disagree, but...

06:19:27.580 Agree.

06:19:28.400 You guys agree with her?

06:19:29.420 She wants to take away your right to vote.

06:19:33.060 Yeah, I know.

06:19:34.460 A lot of women don't vote.

06:19:36.400 I ask a lot of women, they say, no, I didn't vote.

06:19:38.900 So that's okay.

06:19:39.720 So then what's the point?

06:19:40.300 So that's okay, but that's their choice.

06:19:42.940 So then what's the point?

06:19:44.820 I think maybe, you know, instead of taking away women's right to vote, you know, because

06:19:49.340 I mean, at the end of the day, we're also in this country too.

06:19:52.020 There's not everybody...

06:19:53.420 I understand like the whole nuclear family and stuff, but now is just a time where we're

06:19:57.880 working women.

06:19:58.480 Like we are involved in, you know...

06:20:01.040 Yeah, I mean...

06:20:01.620 Society and stuff.

06:20:02.120 I'm just saying it shouldn't have happened.

06:20:04.960 I think women should vote, but hold on.

06:20:07.400 Let me add this.

06:20:09.120 I do think you guys got the vote a little unfairly.

06:20:13.280 Yeah.

06:20:14.520 Yeah.

06:20:14.920 It was a little unfair how you got the vote, because men, the way we got the vote is we

06:20:20.440 were subject to military conscription.

06:20:22.540 Women were able to secure a right, privilege to vote without any corresponding civil duty

06:20:31.260 or responsibility to your country.

06:20:34.100 Yeah.

06:20:34.460 So I'm in favor of women voting.

06:20:37.120 Yeah.

06:20:37.300 You kind of sneaked it in a little bit, you know, whatever.

06:20:39.740 I think we should be able to...

06:20:41.100 I think we should draft women.

06:20:43.160 Thoughts?

06:20:43.520 I think no one should be drafted.

06:20:46.020 But...

06:20:46.500 It should be your own personal choice.

06:20:48.060 Women and men can be in the army, but it should be your choice.

06:20:50.780 Well, okay.

06:20:51.480 So hold on.

06:20:51.860 And there's...

06:20:52.220 So women can volunteer for the military.

06:20:54.600 Women can participate in the military, although there's...

06:20:58.220 Okay.

06:20:58.840 I'm not going to get into that.

06:20:59.820 There's differences there.

06:21:02.180 For example...

06:21:02.980 Okay.

06:21:03.240 Really quick.

06:21:03.620 The physical requirements to join the military are, like, really low, are way different for

06:21:11.380 men and women, which is an inequality.

06:21:13.540 And being a soldier requires a certain degree of physical labor, being physically strong,

06:21:19.960 whatever.

06:21:20.180 However, there's a certain standard there.

06:21:22.060 The same with police officers and firefighters.

06:21:24.620 Yet, it's interesting to me that despite these jobs requiring some degree of physicality,

06:21:30.080 there is a call.

06:21:31.400 For example, equal pay.

06:21:32.960 It used to be equal pay for equal work.

06:21:35.320 Now it's just...

06:21:36.920 Equal pay?

06:21:37.680 Equal pay for everyone.

06:21:38.700 Yeah.

06:21:39.440 But you know what I mean?

06:21:41.200 Like, for example, if it takes three female police officers to subdue one male criminal versus

06:21:46.740 it might take one or two male police officers to do the same job, is it the same

06:21:50.160 job?

06:21:52.040 Is there a great...

06:21:52.840 Well, okay.

06:21:53.180 Well, okay.

06:21:53.580 I'm sorry.

06:21:54.060 I'm totally fucking derailing.

06:21:55.180 Sorry.

06:21:55.420 The caffeine's fucking kicking in.

06:21:57.080 Hold on.

06:21:57.600 Wait.

06:21:57.840 So, okay.

06:21:59.440 Oh, right.

06:22:00.180 You're...

06:22:00.940 The military conscription.

06:22:02.220 You think we should do away with the draft?

06:22:06.220 Yeah.

06:22:06.440 No one should be drafted.

06:22:07.940 But isn't that kind of like saying, well, war is bad.

06:22:11.940 There just shouldn't be war.

06:22:14.420 Well, I'm not going to say war is good, but I do believe it should be people's right to

06:22:18.600 choose what they do.

06:22:20.340 And there's plenty of people who are willing to do it.

06:22:22.240 Well, there's...

06:22:22.800 Yes.

06:22:23.040 There's volunteer.

06:22:24.360 You know, this guy is volunteering to join the Air Force.

06:22:29.960 But...

06:22:30.640 Hold on.

06:22:31.680 I'll finish my...

06:22:32.300 The underscore old underscore ball underscore in Minnesota donated $100.

06:22:37.260 Okay.

06:22:37.400 Here we go.

06:22:37.840 The push-up here right now is telling PPM men should cut and snip till we pass polygraphs.

06:22:43.660 Proved achieving financial and emotion security.

06:22:47.320 Clowns on the left and jokers to our hears us in middle stuck with you.

06:22:52.580 That's a song I'm pretty sure.

06:22:54.240 Okay.

06:22:55.580 Stuck in the middle with you.

06:22:57.860 So, okay.

06:23:00.000 War is bad.

06:23:01.380 Get it.

06:23:02.140 I totally get it.

06:23:03.120 But, practically speaking, is it conceivable that there could be some scenario where a

06:23:11.060 draft would be required?

06:23:15.480 I think there could be a scenario where that happens.

06:23:19.800 And I don't think it...

06:23:21.400 Like, let's just be totally blunt, practical here.

06:23:24.940 The draft is never going away.

06:23:27.880 So, assuming that, do you think it...

06:23:30.420 Assuming that it's never going to be politically possible,

06:23:33.120 to get rid of the draft,

06:23:35.420 do you then think, as a matter of equality,

06:23:38.240 that women should be subject to military conscription?

06:23:42.840 I just don't believe that should ever be forced.

06:23:45.280 If no one's volunteering, then other means should be found.

06:23:48.940 Other means...

06:23:49.240 Well, okay.

06:23:49.880 But, just try to engage with the question here.

06:23:52.080 So, assuming that getting rid of the draft is politically impossible,

06:23:56.800 it just will never happen,

06:23:59.040 engage with me there.

06:23:59.960 Do you think, then, for the sake of equality,

06:24:03.060 that women should be subject to military conscription just as men are?

06:24:09.180 Would that still need to happen if the world leaders themselves just fought each other?

06:24:14.040 Just try to...

06:24:15.080 Just engage with the question.

06:24:16.780 We get it.

06:24:19.840 Draft bad.

06:24:21.000 War bad.

06:24:23.160 I mean, I guess, in that very specific scenario...

06:24:26.280 What do you mean?

06:24:26.540 It would have to be both.

06:24:28.060 You mean, the scenario that is currently in, that's actually the case.

06:24:32.320 But that's not the case.

06:24:33.340 In our current scenario, plenty of people are willing to volunteer.

06:24:36.840 In our current scenario, the draft is in place.

06:24:40.740 Should, and all men, when they turn 18 and register to vote,

06:24:44.680 they have to register for the draft.

06:24:46.340 I did it.

06:24:47.280 Every man I know has done it.

06:24:49.080 Women have died.

06:24:50.540 No women do it.

06:24:51.240 They don't have to.

06:24:52.200 So, in our current situation,

06:24:55.100 would it be, since the right to vote came with military conscription,

06:25:00.100 all of these other things,

06:25:01.380 the right to vote was given to men as a privilege

06:25:03.800 for all of those things that they would do for their country?

06:25:07.140 Like, they get a say in the political comings and goings of America.

06:25:11.600 Do you think, since we want to pursue equality,

06:25:14.720 women should also, for that privilege,

06:25:18.440 be required to meet those same standards?

06:25:21.040 For the privilege of voting, you're saying?

06:25:25.640 Yes.

06:25:28.700 But I think the question was more so directed to you.

06:25:31.200 If it's in exchange for being able to vote,

06:25:35.080 meaning from both sides,

06:25:36.820 if you weren't signed up for the draft,

06:25:38.460 you couldn't vote, then sure.

06:25:40.460 Okay, so you're in favor of women being subject to military conscription?

06:25:45.000 In those simple terms, no.

06:25:46.820 But in the scenario where you need to in order to vote...

06:25:51.200 Well, but so the current way it is,

06:25:54.520 is that there is a selective service

06:25:58.420 for men to be able to vote.

06:26:01.140 They have to register for the selective service.

06:26:03.360 They are subject to a potential military conscription

06:26:07.580 should the need arise.

06:26:09.180 Women are exempt from this.

06:26:11.300 This occurs to me to be an inequality

06:26:13.180 between men and women.

06:26:15.140 And if I recall, I believe you stated you were a feminist, correct?

06:26:18.680 Which, if I can be most charitable

06:26:20.440 in my definition of feminism,

06:26:22.540 and this is actually not how I define feminism,

06:26:25.440 but if I just am charitable here and say

06:26:27.800 that feminism is fighting for equality

06:26:31.200 between men and women,

06:26:33.140 then shouldn't you as a feminist

06:26:34.660 be in favor of equalizing this?

06:26:38.320 Yes, and though we can't...

06:26:40.260 Like, if we were to go through my preferred route,

06:26:42.080 my version of equalizing it

06:26:43.560 is no one has to be drafted.

06:26:45.120 If that's not an option, sure, everyone...

06:26:46.980 It's not possible, though, to get rid of the draft.

06:26:49.540 But why is that not possible?

06:26:50.940 Okay, so there's just certain national security reasons

06:26:55.840 why it would never be possible.

06:26:58.520 And I would argue, even if we did get rid of the draft,

06:27:03.180 in a scenario where a draft was necessary,

06:27:06.460 I would suspect that Congress would just pass a law

06:27:10.320 or there would be martial law,

06:27:12.140 which would just force men into the military anyways.

06:27:14.680 So even if we politically got rid of it,

06:27:18.760 some future Congress would just get...

06:27:21.960 Reverse it.

06:27:22.420 Reverse it.

06:27:23.460 Yeah.

06:27:23.740 Or there would be martial law,

06:27:25.360 and they'd be like,

06:27:26.700 under martial law,

06:27:27.660 they can suspend some of your rights,

06:27:29.540 and they'd just force men into the military anyways.

06:27:32.920 Or women too.

06:27:34.720 But mostly the men.

06:27:36.320 Yeah.

06:27:39.020 So...

06:27:39.460 It's just, there's not a scenario...

06:27:41.580 Like, and somebody could probably speak better on this,

06:27:45.460 but there's just certain, like, realities

06:27:47.560 when it comes to warfare.

06:27:48.960 Who knows?

06:27:49.360 There could be a fucking alien conflict.

06:27:52.280 Bro, we're getting fucking drafted

06:27:53.840 if the aliens come.

06:27:56.160 The zombies come, bro.

06:27:58.900 I'm out there.

06:27:59.900 You're going to be out there in the streets

06:28:01.400 doing some Walking Dead shit.

06:28:04.260 Fucking katana.

06:28:05.360 Sorry, I spit there a little bit.

06:28:06.720 Fucking katana-ing.

06:28:08.560 You know?

06:28:09.140 Show me your katana slice.

06:28:10.560 Do it.

06:28:10.860 Oh, no.

06:28:11.480 No?

06:28:11.860 Okay, you're okay.

06:28:13.640 I'll say that there's no country

06:28:15.420 that's peaceful enough to not have a draft at all.

06:28:18.780 Also, when it comes to that,

06:28:21.040 I'd argue we're fucking closer

06:28:23.740 to some, like, global military conflict

06:28:28.740 than, I think, at any point in the past 30 years.

06:28:32.700 Yeah.

06:28:33.620 Ukraine.

06:28:34.260 What's going on in Ukraine?

06:28:35.280 What's going on in the Middle East?

06:28:37.200 The fucking...

06:28:37.880 There's economic...

06:28:39.740 There's, like, various civil uprisings

06:28:42.780 in various countries.

06:28:43.900 There's fucking inflation.

06:28:45.960 Like, shit is a little chaotic right now.

06:28:49.260 Shit's a little chaotic right now.

06:28:50.520 I'll give you one example with Ukraine, for example.

06:28:52.360 Um, I don't believe that feminism can actually exist

06:28:55.720 when there's a military conflict.

06:28:58.820 So, in Ukraine, uh, all the men had to stay in the country.

06:29:03.500 I believe it was from the ages of 18 to 60.

06:29:05.360 If you're a man, you could not leave the country.

06:29:07.580 The women could just dip.

06:29:09.580 And I've pulled up this image.

06:29:11.000 We're not going to pull it up.

06:29:11.800 But it's, it's this really interesting comparison

06:29:14.500 when it comes to, like, I often hear these terms,

06:29:16.800 male privilege, blah, blah, blah.

06:29:18.760 So, you have screenshots of women, Ukrainian women,

06:29:23.240 who are on dating apps because they were able to flee

06:29:25.240 and go to Stockholm and the UK and Paris,

06:29:28.660 wherever they went.

06:29:29.400 And they were just partying it up,

06:29:31.400 living their life, on dating apps, getting fucked.

06:29:34.680 And then the Ukrainian men,

06:29:37.040 who had no choice for that,

06:29:40.760 bro, there's video, there,

06:29:41.780 the comparison photo is them, like, dead.

06:29:46.040 Dead bodies.

06:29:49.140 It's, like, such a contrast.

06:29:54.740 So, there's also no male privilege.

06:29:57.620 Does anyone want to bite on that?

06:29:59.400 Yeah.

06:30:02.860 There is no male privilege.

06:30:04.280 No male privilege.

06:30:05.800 In totality.

06:30:10.360 Let's go, Brandon donated $100.

06:30:13.500 In honor of Trans Day,

06:30:15.420 what is stopping a man to identify as a woman

06:30:18.000 to dodge the draft?

06:30:19.660 Please ask for use any pronoun you want, woman.

06:30:22.580 Wait, actually, hold on.

06:30:23.540 There is something on this.

06:30:24.420 So, first off, I want to do a cheers to Easter.

06:30:27.620 Yeah, happy Easter.

06:30:29.920 He is risen.

06:30:30.960 Nick, if you can actually pull up the social,

06:30:34.240 oh, my God, I'm blanking.

06:30:35.520 Sorry, the Selective Service System website.

06:30:38.280 Just, it's like SS, just, you can Google it.

06:30:40.520 But, actually, it's by sex.

06:30:44.580 So, you can't get out of it by transitioning.

06:30:51.100 So, Nick, can you scroll up a little bit?

06:30:53.540 Or make it bigger, my bad.

06:30:54.600 I'm just really curious on this really quick.

06:30:59.820 Can you go to registration and just don't click it,

06:31:04.800 just see the drop down?

06:31:06.320 Other one?

06:31:07.020 Oh, click it, I guess.

06:31:09.360 Scroll down.

06:31:10.560 Who needs to register?

06:31:12.100 Benefits, also, we could do benefits and penalties.

06:31:13.940 Should we do this one?

06:31:15.460 Yeah.

06:31:15.940 Yeah.

06:31:16.080 I'll put it on the other side.

06:31:20.200 I remember disabled, scroll down.

06:31:22.980 Scroll down.

06:31:23.940 Scroll down.

06:31:24.940 Transgender people.

06:31:25.840 Okay.

06:31:26.220 Just click on that one.

06:31:27.740 Yeah, they have a thing.

06:31:29.940 They've been asked this question a few times.

06:31:31.340 Wait.

06:31:32.060 Click it?

06:31:33.480 Oh, scroll down.

06:31:34.220 It's probably, it's like a jump.

06:31:35.940 Yeah, it's a weird jump thing.

06:31:37.440 Yeah.

06:31:37.640 Scroll down.

06:31:38.020 Go all the way to the bottom.

06:31:38.960 Scroll down.

06:31:40.400 There it is.

06:31:40.820 Yeah, there we go.

06:31:41.240 Make it.

06:31:41.540 That.

06:31:41.940 Uh, who are assigned male at birth and change their gender to female are still required

06:31:49.160 to register.

06:31:50.400 Individuals who are assigned female at birth and change their gender to male are not required

06:31:54.480 to register.

06:31:55.760 Damn.

06:31:56.580 So even if, even if you, there's not a loophole there.

06:32:01.960 You can't do it.

06:32:02.960 So it's maybe working for prisons, but.

06:32:06.240 So when push comes to shove, biology, everyone recognizes it.

06:32:10.420 It doesn't matter what people in the government say.

06:32:14.000 They recognize biology.

06:32:15.740 It doesn't matter.

06:32:16.860 I think it's just like, they're trying to get rid of a loophole.

06:32:19.280 Like, I think that is like the major thing.

06:32:21.100 Wait, they're trying to get rid of a loophole.

06:32:23.000 Cause it's like, who, like, if you don't want to be drafted, what's stopping you from

06:32:27.600 identifying you as a woman besides how other perceive, others perceive you.

06:32:32.360 But if you really don't want to be drafted, like, I feel like a lot of men would do that.

06:32:36.060 So they're trying to prevent that.

06:32:37.100 Cause they can see that happening.

06:32:38.260 I don't know if it really means that they agree, you know, with any viewpoint necessarily,

06:32:44.060 but I think that's what it is.

06:32:46.200 It is interesting though, that that is the federal government's position on that.

06:32:49.340 They would still force a, a female who got the transition to go to, or not a female,

06:32:56.620 sorry, a male who transitioned as to a female, they would force, no, a male who transitioned

06:33:03.380 a female, they would force him to go to war regardless of his feelings because the government

06:33:10.480 doesn't care.

06:33:11.680 Wait, is the government transphobic?

06:33:13.980 When push comes to shove, apparently the government does not care.

06:33:18.440 For me, this is kind of relates to the whole sports topic too.

06:33:22.160 What the fuck, Joe Biden?

06:33:23.540 That's what I'm saying.

06:33:24.340 Bro, Joe...

06:33:25.440 It relates to the sports.

06:33:26.860 It's just like, there could be a loophole there.

06:33:29.580 Politicians will say whatever they want, they, they have to say to appease the public so they

06:33:35.660 can get reelected.

06:33:36.580 And so they can make people say, oh, they are so holy, like they are so good.

06:33:41.840 They, they are, they care for my feelings.

06:33:43.960 There's no good politician.

06:33:44.920 I do have one question really quick on the war thing.

06:33:47.300 Um, starting with you, uh, who would you say are the, are men, well, let me, we'll do split.

06:33:55.240 Are men or women the primary victims of war?

06:33:59.300 I feel like it depends on the angle you look at it because certainly more men are in the

06:34:03.680 battles. But as a, when it comes to civilians who are, well, it's just different kinds of

06:34:10.740 violence are faced by each group. It's not really that one is worse than the other. It's just very

06:34:16.220 different. I agree.

06:34:19.680 You agree?

06:34:20.400 Because if you're talking about men going to war, they're going to be the primary victims,

06:34:24.460 but you're talking about civilian casualties. Women are very likely almost guaranteed to be

06:34:29.500 raped if they're going to be killed by soldiers, not American.

06:34:33.680 Yeah. Don't use that.

06:34:34.600 Well, okay.

06:34:35.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

06:34:35.840 Um, I don't think it's a guarantee that it happens.

06:34:41.460 Historically.

06:34:41.820 Yeah.

06:34:42.740 Well, it's not a, one, it's terrible. One, it's terrible. And two, yes, it absolutely happens.

06:34:48.560 Does it happen to every woman? No. And I think in more modern conflicts, it's far less likely

06:34:54.700 because at least amongst like more, more, uh, developed nations, there's, there's, um, protocols

06:35:02.560 when it comes to, um, um, uh, like war crimes and shit. Yeah. War crimes, the genie of the

06:35:07.940 convention. Yeah. It still happens. It absolutely probably still happens, but you, what's that?

06:35:13.320 Um, thank you so much. Yeah. That's fine. That's fine. Uh, Gustavo, if you take her seat, we will

06:35:18.240 try to wrap up here pretty soon. I do appreciate you coming and being able to stay a little bit

06:35:21.980 longer. Thank you. Gustavo is going to take her seat. We're going to try to wrap up. I promise

06:35:26.460 guys, we're going to try to wrap up here very, very soon. Um, but so you're saying, okay, so I, I

06:35:32.200 a hundred percent agree. Like when it comes to warfare, that there is a increase, certainly an

06:35:37.300 increased risk, a disproportionality when it comes to SA for, Oh, you got it. No, that's fine.

06:35:44.860 That's fine. That's fine. We'll see you. We'll see you next. Uh, guys, Tuesday, we got Tay-Tay

06:35:50.240 and then we got, we got some big stuff coming. We got some big stuff coming. Um, Gustavo, just

06:35:55.600 take her seat. And guys, we, we are going to wrap up here very soon. Um, uh, what was I saying? Uh,

06:36:03.260 oh, uh, but okay, let's say for example, like world war two, let's, let's look at world war

06:36:10.200 two, right? Uh, so, okay. World war two, if I can see that say there were a million, uh,

06:36:20.820 essays during world war two, I don't know what the actual number is. Um, is that, and is that

06:36:27.320 the bigger, uh, than all the grievance, negative outcome? I mean, I, I don't think you can really

06:36:35.780 compare, you know, I think it's just such like a terrible, well, no, let's actually play

06:36:40.720 a game of comparison. So let's say that there were 20 million, let's say the, the male military

06:36:46.140 deaths were exclusively male and there were 20 million of them, but there were a hundred

06:36:50.760 or excuse me, 1 million, uh, women who were essayed, essayed is a terrible thing, which

06:36:59.540 is worse. Well, I feel like you could also argue that like having to live with that trauma

06:37:06.240 after that happened to you and then even potentially losing male members like of your family or even

06:37:12.980 maybe like your husband or something like that position could be far worse.

06:37:18.460 Having to like kind of pick up the scraps of just what the country's left to, especially

06:37:24.040 during world war two, when so many people, so many men died and, and women had to join

06:37:28.680 the, well, especially world war one, I would say.

06:37:30.620 Here, let me, so I'm going to, I'll just state the question again. And how about we start,

06:37:34.840 we'll do different conflicts. Let's start with world war one, right? Uh, I believe there

06:37:40.280 were 20 million military casualties. Uh, maybe I, I not precise in my numbers.

06:37:47.960 World war two, there were more military casualties, more civilian casualties, both wars, absolutely

06:37:53.060 catastrophic. Uh, going around the table. Were men or women, the primary victims of world

06:38:01.340 war one in world war one, maybe the men, because women's rights were actually advancing at the

06:38:12.460 time. I don't totally understand. Who's the men? Men. I would say men. Men. Okay. How about

06:38:22.280 world war two? So are, were men or women the primary victims of world war two?

06:38:29.820 No. Are we counting? Hold on. We're just starting here. And it could be, it could be, um, some of

06:38:37.640 like the Japanese camps. Like, I think that was also another primary. So, okay. Sorry. Are men

06:38:43.300 or women, were men or women the primary victims of world war two? Go ahead. I feel like that one

06:38:50.680 might be more of an equal split. Equal split. Yeah. Okay. So, okay. I'll say men and I'll like

06:39:01.140 elaborate on that a little bit. I mean, as far as like violence and stuff, it's, it's gotta be the

06:39:05.760 men. And even how you just mentioned like Japanese camps and stuff, uh, in the Philippines, my grandma

06:39:10.660 grew up, she, uh, during world war two and stuff. And her father was literally beheaded.

06:39:16.080 Like, right. It's just like that kind of stuff that happens. Men. Yeah. Let's still say men.

06:39:22.820 Men. Because. But. Because you're saying something about the camps in Japan or something. That

06:39:29.260 was me. Yeah. I was. Yeah. I was just adding on that. And honestly, more to men suffering just

06:39:37.420 because they got captured or just, you know, the men that were in those camps. I think that

06:39:43.760 was its own kind of torture too. They were literally tortured. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. 100%. I'm just

06:39:50.640 saying compared to SA. I think certainly bad things happen to women civilians during war. Yeah.

06:39:57.920 War is terrible for everybody involved. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Sorry. War is terrible for everybody

06:40:03.360 involved. But like when, if you have to pay, play the comparison game, men are overwhelmingly

06:40:11.640 the primary, uh, uh, way less survival rate. Well, it's like they, they suffer the largest amount

06:40:20.120 of consequences for war. So what was the point of that question? Well, I don't know. We're talking

06:40:26.760 about, we were talking about patriarchy. We were talking about patriarchy and then the

06:40:32.400 draft. It's like male, male privilege. This, this, uh, uh, misogynist said that she's against

06:40:41.820 women voting. What a rad, freaking radical over here. And then, uh, I just wish it didn't

06:40:48.080 happen. You wish. Okay. I wouldn't. I think, I'm, I'm, I think, uh, work at home. I think

06:40:55.480 women should vote. Would you feel differently if we were drafted in war? Also, I'm not trying

06:40:58.840 to get canceled. Wait, but okay. Hold on. Let's, let's do a few more conflicts here. Vietnam,

06:41:07.340 are men or women the primary victims of Vietnam, the Vietnam War? I don't know that much about

06:41:14.080 the Vietnam War. I do know a lot of civilians suffered during that as well. And I do know

06:41:20.240 at that time, the draft was only men and a lot of men died. And a lot of people who come

06:41:25.120 back from that war say that it felt like it was all for nothing. That's true. That's true.

06:41:30.260 So it's maybe men. Okay. Let's do something more recent here. Last one.

06:41:38.920 Why am I the only one to answer? Okay. Unless you guys want to do the Vietnam one, we can.

06:41:42.580 Men. Men. I just, yeah. Okay. Last one. The Ukraine War.

06:41:46.780 Are men or women the primary victims of the Ukraine War?

06:41:52.560 That feels like it, um, it's a bit more equal because they're, everyone's, who is a civilian

06:42:01.060 is being equally shot at.

06:42:05.140 Erroneous. Erroneous.

06:42:07.400 Wait, hold on.

06:42:07.940 If you're talking about the people who are still actively there.

06:42:10.080 Hold on. Okay. But, but so let's, let's just assume that, that you're right, that there's

06:42:18.560 equality when it comes to equality between, um, there's an equal amount of casualty, civilian

06:42:26.160 casualties between men and women in the Ukraine conflict. Let's assume that. I actually don't

06:42:31.500 think that's the case. I would suspect that actually male civilians are much more likely

06:42:36.780 to be dispatched, uh, as compared to the women. I already told you that the women were allowed

06:42:44.820 to leave. If you were a woman, you could leave the country. All the men, civilian, military,

06:42:52.560 you had to stay. A lot of male civilians in Ukraine have been drafted into the war. Um, but

06:42:59.360 if I give you that the civilian deaths are equal between men and women in the UK, Ukraine

06:43:04.200 conflict, but all the military deaths, or even let's say 95% of the military deaths are

06:43:11.840 men and 5% of the military deaths are women, is it still equal?

06:43:18.980 No.

06:43:19.460 Checkmate. I mean, it's not really, like, if people can change their mind, I'm not like,

06:43:35.000 oh, okay. It's not a matter of who gets, like, his most right or whatever. Well, but, because

06:43:41.240 when I asked the question, you said it's equal in Ukraine. I don't know that much about these

06:43:45.800 wars. Oh. It's hard to make these judgment calls with very limited information. Sure.

06:43:53.440 Um, okay. Interesting. Did you guys answer on the Ukraine one? No. No. I'd say probably

06:44:01.720 the men again. Men, definitely. Sure, men. Men. Yeah. Now, do you doubt the claim that I made

06:44:08.220 about women being allowed to leave the country? I don't doubt it. Okay. Yeah. They were able

06:44:13.060 to leave the country. Men could, had to stay. Many of them got drafted into the military. Um,

06:44:20.280 so, for shizzle? For shizzle. For shizzle. For shizzle? War always effing sucks. Okay. Like,

06:44:31.140 regardless. Literally. So, should we draft women? I think that's what that stems from. I don't know.

06:44:37.340 We're talking about the patriarch. Okay, last few questions on patriarch. Um, under the patriarchy,

06:44:41.380 are women oppressed? Going around the table? I think there are some things that aren't great.

06:44:51.600 I don't really know if there's anything exactly under the law that oppresses us. Sure. Wait,

06:45:00.180 last thing on the military thing, because I didn't really give an actual counterpoint. Um, I'll just

06:45:04.700 say this. For every single military conflict that there's ever been throughout all of human

06:45:09.600 history. Men have been and will be the primary victims of war in every instance.

06:45:20.000 There's no military conflict that's ever occurred where women have ever been the primary victims

06:45:27.060 of war.

06:45:30.740 It's unfortunate, but true.

06:45:32.520 Wait, you, it's on, you'd prefer, you want to? No, I'm saying anyone dying. Yes, war, yes, war is bad.

06:45:42.180 Do you disagree?

06:45:44.860 I don't know enough about historical conflicts to say otherwise, but I'm not going to necessarily

06:45:49.640 say I agree either. Wait, hold on. But, okay, earlier when we were talking about the patriarchy,

06:45:53.440 and you were talking about, well, here's the evidence of the patriarchy, and the world is made for

06:45:58.900 the benefit of men. I've provided you major military conflicts in the 20th century. Wait,

06:46:08.020 let me just make sure. 20th century. Yeah, I almost fucked that up. World War I, World War II,

06:46:13.180 the most brutal wars that ever existed, where tens of millions of men were killed, died. Bad things

06:46:22.500 happened to women too, but not to the extent that men were negatively impacted. When we're talking

06:46:27.780 about, and we're talking about patriarchy here, you mentioned something about, well, crash test

06:46:34.780 dummies, gender, and medical testing. I did mention earlier that those were just surface level issues.

06:46:44.560 Right. But, like, I'm seeking, like, okay, what's the, what would be like a significant grievance,

06:46:52.140 right? And it's like, well, if the world is made for the benefit of men, is it though?

06:47:01.020 Well, patriarchy can also harm men. That patriarchy is part of why the draft is only men.

06:47:06.500 Well, so you think if, if societies were, in terms of leadership positions, if they were occupied by

06:47:14.160 women, there would be less warfare? I don't know if that's exactly how that would happen. I feel like

06:47:19.760 it depends on the individual themselves, not whether or not they're a boy or a girl. Well, if I told you

06:47:25.280 that there was a study of monarchs, and they compared queens to kings, and they actually found,

06:47:30.900 they did this study, they actually found that queens were more, more war-hungry than kings were,

06:47:38.420 and queens were much more likely to wage war than their male counterparts.

06:47:42.740 I think that could be more for the reason that women felt that they had to establish themselves,

06:47:48.120 and that they were already added. Well, hold on, the monarch?

06:47:51.360 Monarchs, yes. You mean the, the authority, the top authority? Okay, yes, yes, listen, because.

06:47:58.980 They have to prove themselves? Yes, because. You mean the queen? No, no, no queen or king has to

06:48:05.180 prove themselves. They do. They have ultimate authority. Off with his head. They have ultimate

06:48:09.940 authority, but they have advisors, and they have people that can rebel against them. Who's the French,

06:48:15.320 who's the French king who said, l'état c'est moi? Probably one of the Louis. Henry VIII? I think it was one

06:48:21.460 of the Louis. L'état, the, I am the state. Oh, that's Louis XVI. The state is me. Yeah. L'état c'est moi.

06:48:27.980 Yeah. Um, eh, look, and monarchs had substantial power. Yeah, but I'm gonna say that usually monarchs

06:48:40.300 were men. Wait, so you're saying the queens wanted to, like, impress the lads? No, but I think that they

06:48:45.820 had to be more aggressive. It's always for the boys. To be taken seriously, I think, by the general

06:48:50.440 population, also, like, of their kingdom. Yeah, because, because, because, yes, a monarch has all

06:48:57.100 the power, but really, they didn't need to be taken seriously. No, because really, they have to

06:49:04.420 establish themselves so that there's not a rebellion. In an age where the most important

06:49:09.260 thing to every single person in the country was, am I going to be able to feed my family?

06:49:14.180 Exactly. They could care less. They, sorry, they could not care less what the position of the female

06:49:21.040 monarch was. Okay. So you're, how about the advisors, the nobles, the nobles that had all the

06:49:26.720 money and influence, they would care. Well, they see a weak monarch and they're going to go somehow

06:49:33.320 against that monarch. Same with neighboring kingdoms. They would see a potentially weak monarch.

06:49:38.460 100%. I think it's definitely more complex than you're making it seem. Regardless of male or female,

06:49:43.180 it's usually, it's generally the case that female leadership does not understand the innate drive

06:49:51.260 for protection that men find natural. That's just, it's a natural feeling that men have and women just

06:49:58.800 don't. Okay. If women are so caring and maternal, how can they not understand the protection? If they know

06:50:04.260 how, if they have this innate drive to protect their kids, how can they not understand the

06:50:08.380 protection of people? It's the innate drive to nurture their children. It's the father's innate

06:50:15.160 drive to protect his family. Like if, if there is a armed shooter in your house, the man's the one

06:50:24.220 who's going to go stop the conflict. He's the one who's like, I am obligated to protect my family.

06:50:29.380 But if, if the shooter were to turn to the kid, the mom would definitely step in front. I think it

06:50:34.900 just happens. It's just not, it's not her initial reaction. It's usually flea. Because she probably

06:50:38.760 thinks, you know, but it's because she thinks that she can't help as much. The man thinks that I'm

06:50:44.240 the strongest one. So I'm obligated. I think that that is what a man would think. Well, when it comes

06:50:51.140 to leadership positions, it, that that's why women tend to be more aggressive at not. Okay. I can't say

06:50:58.520 that's exactly why I'm just theorizing right now. I am too. Yeah. So I'm, my theory is that women will

06:51:05.660 tend to bash all other, uh, opposing forces because they are, they feel a sense of like unable to protect

06:51:14.340 themselves. So they are more likely to confront other people that are going to be against their

06:51:19.940 position. And so I guess my argument would be, is they feel that they are unable to, um, protect

06:51:25.520 themselves because they feel that they have something to prove and they feel like already

06:51:31.260 at a disadvantage and like, they're not being taken seriously, which I think, especially maybe

06:51:36.020 right now, you know, a woman as president, what I think she would be as power hungry. And if she

06:51:41.260 was, maybe that would disprove my theory. But I think right now there wouldn't be as much

06:51:46.260 of a need, but in the time when women weren't allowed to vote, when they were not given,

06:51:52.480 like, what time was that during when there was monarchs, I'm not talking about the current

06:51:56.680 monarchs because I told you during that period where there's monarchs in most of Europe, actually

06:52:02.120 men didn't have the right to vote. No one voted either. Nobles, noblemen though, with their own

06:52:07.300 property. They didn't vote. So like 0.001% of men had the right to vote. Okay. But 99% of men,

06:52:17.040 men were the property owners. Men were the ones that had like, I mean, okay. But that's not a gender

06:52:22.040 thing. That's a power thing. Yeah. Yeah. But okay. Well, you agree with me that men at that time

06:52:29.360 had more power and more say than women with owning property, with rights. Yeah. They were

06:52:36.260 with their decisions, the leaders. Sure. Yes. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. I don't, I don't, I agree

06:52:41.780 to that. Well, hold on. Actually, I do have to provide a bit of pushback because this is an apex

06:52:46.680 fallacy here. So I would argue that, uh, you know, for this, this patriarchy really only benefits

06:52:55.100 men at the top. Your average man, which is the vast majority of men, uh, or below average men,

06:53:03.160 I would argue struggle more than their female counterparts. Yeah. With what?

06:53:08.240 Life. A great many things. With what? Life. Life. A great many things. Like what? It's not clear to me

06:53:14.820 if, if you compare the average man to the average woman, that he is substance, substantially advantaged

06:53:21.780 over her simply by virtue of his gender. In fact, we can, we can do sort of the, almost the reverse

06:53:27.840 of the apex fallacy, which is looking at the, what feminists tend to do is they look at, well,

06:53:33.240 men have the best, most optimum positions, but you also fail to look at the, the counter side to that,

06:53:40.600 which is while men do, uh, I will admit there is a, uh, greater proportion of men who occupy the most

06:53:49.820 quote unquote desirable positions in society, or they have the most power in society, uh, which is

06:53:56.560 again, very small proportion of men, a much larger proportion of men as compared to women occupy the

06:54:02.400 absolute worst positions in society. And you don't hear much about equality on that front. For example,

06:54:08.480 the fact that 80% of homeless are men. If you walk down the street, actually, if you look out that

06:54:14.240 window right there, and if you look outside, there's a homeless man in the rain. Well, it's, he's covered,

06:54:20.620 he's under an awning, but it's a homeless man. You walk past a homeless person typically tends to be a man.

06:54:26.280 Uh, there's, there's a whole bunch of other things for, for example, incarceration.

06:54:32.360 Men are much more, uh, and I mean, crime is a different discussion. I think, I think you're,

06:54:38.700 you're confusing correlation with causation because I think that yes, those, I don't, I honestly don't

06:54:48.200 know if that's all completely true. I haven't done my own research on, on men being worse off than women

06:54:53.280 in, in everything. Wait, so are you saying that, well, when men occupy positions of power, that's

06:55:00.720 some privilege that is just bestowed upon them and there's no merit to their achievement. But when

06:55:06.280 there's a negative, uh, some sort of negative life scenario for a man, well, that has nothing to do

06:55:13.100 with his gender. But when he, when there's a benefit, a hundred percent has to do with the gender.

06:55:17.300 When there's a negative, absolutely no correlation. Okay. So first of all, I didn't say anything

06:55:22.700 about people or men about, um, okay, hold on. Let's go back. Make your point. Okay. So I didn't say

06:55:28.720 that had nothing to do with gender. I just was going to say that it is for different reasons than

06:55:33.460 you might say. Like, for example, men being worse off could be more to due to mental health and their,

06:55:40.540 um, unwillingness to go get help for, especially for homelessness, which is usually a lot of mental

06:55:49.920 illness. I think women are going to be more inclined to get, to go to therapy just because

06:55:55.460 of stigma.

06:55:55.940 You think therapy is what's preventing men from not being homeless? Is that from, that's the

06:56:02.560 solution to homelessness?

06:56:03.600 No, but that's one solution. I'm just saying that, you know,

06:56:06.540 I don't think even one there's, I don't think there's there.

06:56:09.960 I think mental illness is a huge thing that is overlooked.

06:56:12.820 Do you think therapy fixes that?

06:56:14.760 I think it can. I think therapy is really good, but yeah, 100%.

06:56:18.880 A mental illness that is substantial enough to result in a man being homeless is going

06:56:25.000 to be resolved by, by therapy.

06:56:27.800 No. What I'm saying is that people with mental illnesses, before they get to the point of

06:56:33.680 homelessness, should seek help because they can't manage their life on their own, which

06:56:38.440 causes them to be homeless.

06:56:40.160 That's usually very severe mental illness as it relates to homelessness.

06:56:46.240 But, okay. Okay.

06:56:47.760 There's also drug use. I think there's a drug component to this, too.

06:56:50.480 Yeah, and that also relates to mental illness, too. People, I mean, I would say that I've

06:56:56.680 met a lot of...

06:56:57.240 Wait, so, sorry. Go ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead. Go ahead.

06:56:59.760 So, what I'm saying is you can't equate it all to men somehow being at a disadvantage in

06:57:07.480 society.

06:57:08.340 But, hold on. So, of all the positive life outcomes that allegedly, disproportionately men are

06:57:16.520 the beneficiaries of. Well, that's evidence of sexism against women and the patriarchy.

06:57:22.180 But when there's negative life circumstances or outcomes for men, well, hold on. No, that's

06:57:27.420 men's fault. There's no discrimination towards men. There's nothing, you know. Is that...

06:57:33.780 That's your argument.

06:57:35.280 Okay. How are you... Okay. Let's go... Let's backtrack.

06:57:38.020 Let's backtrack.

06:57:38.760 Because how... Because I think you're kind of nitpicking my argument a bit and then kind

06:57:43.900 of making assumptions. How do you think that men are disadvantaged in our society to end

06:57:49.920 up homeless? What do you think causes that?

06:57:53.120 Sure. I mean, there's a whole bunch of reasons. The homelessness thing is very complicated.

06:57:57.480 There's a whole bunch of reasons how someone can end up homeless. I would argue, for example,

06:58:02.860 though, is women, when it comes to shelters, women are much more likely to end up getting

06:58:08.340 sheltered. When it comes to homeless people who are... Because there's different categorizations

06:58:13.600 of homelessness. When you see homeless people who are... I think the term is living rough.

06:58:19.360 So, that's like when you see them on the street, they're sleeping outside. That's living rough,

06:58:23.600 right? That's even... Of the people that are homeless, that's even great... That's a greater

06:58:27.460 proportion of men. So, you're asking me, what are the reasons precipitating homelessness

06:58:35.700 more likely impacting men?

06:58:37.500 Yeah. Because you're equating it to being caused by their gender? Like, their gender is causing

06:58:45.380 them to be worse than life?

06:58:46.880 There are simply more social safety nets afforded to women than there are men. Like, our society

06:58:52.720 just generally likes women more than they like men. Like, only women and children are loved

06:58:58.780 unconditionally. Men have to earn it. Like, men are not loved by society unless they provide

06:59:06.420 certain kind of value. Generally, in our society, women are praised, loved, adored, regardless

06:59:12.760 of what they produce or provide. So, in the case of homelessness, like, if a man can't provide,

06:59:20.540 well, sucks to be that guy. He should just work or work on himself. But if a woman can't provide

06:59:26.660 for herself, how can we help her to make sure that she stays off the streets? That's generally

06:59:32.240 the attitude people will have. That's the attitude that our systems have.

06:59:36.400 I'd say there's definitely an attitude like that when women have kids. I think that's when women

06:59:42.060 are caretakers. I think that is definitely the attitude. But as far as homelessness goes,

06:59:47.460 I mean, I just think that's like, the public, you know, it's like, there's a public education

06:59:54.840 that is afforded to men and women. Okay, so that is where everyone starts off. So, how does

07:00:03.860 one go from being, having access to education to being homeless or in jail?

07:00:11.260 Does that include higher education?

07:00:12.320 It could. It could. Well, I mean, then we have to also look at the fact that, for example,

07:00:18.520 more women go to college. There are more scholarships available for women. And women get more, I think

07:00:26.140 it's like 60-40 is the discrepancy. But that's obviously... But is that evidence of sexism? Because

07:00:31.940 when it was that way in the past, when there were more men going to college than women, that was

07:00:37.420 assumed to just be some sexism. Because it was. You talk to any woman that grew up in that time.

07:00:43.540 What time? The time when they weren't, like, when it was hard to go to college, when the ratio was so

07:00:48.660 off. Like, I have talked to one of my great grandma's friends. And so, she was, I think, in biology. And she

07:00:56.860 had gone to college and was looking for work. And she was just talking about it. It was really hard

07:01:03.420 because men didn't take you seriously. You, like, men didn't want, you weren't, either weren't allowed

07:01:09.580 or weren't accepted in that, in that sphere. And so, to sit, to compare that to now is just, is just a

07:01:18.180 very, very weird and, and doesn't make sense comparison. You're, you're...

07:01:23.580 We've eliminated that now. Well... Well, actually, we've, we've gone so far in the opposite direction

07:01:28.380 that we are, like, companies are now instituting policies where, like, if you hire, like, 10 men,

07:01:35.800 you also have to hire 10 women. So, it's like, it's not, it's not, are these women qualified? It's,

07:01:41.640 hey, we have to fix our, we have to fix our atrocities in the past to make up for those.

07:01:47.900 Therefore, we have to hire underqualified people to do a job that they're not ready for. So, that's...

07:01:54.380 And so, I'm not saying I agree with that. I'm saying that to say, to say that the switch up

07:02:01.660 and compare, compare the circumstance, circumstances now to the past, it just, it isn't the same

07:02:09.360 because now women are, I will agree, are, are, in some cases, being given more opportunities

07:02:17.200 than men, in some cases, not all. And in the past, it was, it was just very severe. I think now,

07:02:26.920 it's just, like, you have, it's, it's kind of almost, like, like, I think a certain side is

07:02:32.060 trying to make up for the lost time that women didn't spend in college, which I, I don't agree

07:02:37.380 with. I think it should be completely equal now. Well, I guess, tying it all back to the original

07:02:42.580 question. How is that evidence of patriarchy currently? Well, that wasn't my argument.

07:02:50.660 Well, yeah, okay. That's, that's fair. But, like, it, I guess, depending on how you define

07:02:56.340 patriarchy, but how is that evidence of male privilege today? Okay. Yeah. I guess that's,

07:03:02.920 if we're tying it back into that subject. So, are we talking about male privilege or patriarchy?

07:03:06.720 Uh, some people conflate those. So, okay. I don't. I think patriarchy exists. I think it's just

07:03:12.520 the way that we are organized with, especially with nuclear families. You know, that's, like, a

07:03:16.640 smaller, um, way of looking at it. Just the way our government's set up. I, does it mean it's bad?

07:03:22.540 No. I think a matriarchy is more community-based with the women kind of making the decisions as a

07:03:29.620 group with equally. And, and, in comparison, patriarchy is usually, like, one leader, maybe with,

07:03:34.980 like, you know, kind of more of a pyramid. Um, now with male privilege, I'm sure there is male

07:03:40.880 privilege. And we could talk about the specifics of male privilege. But I think it's, it has to do

07:03:48.200 mostly just that the way that men see other men in comparison to women. I think, I think that is

07:03:57.100 going to be the primary, the primary aspect of male privilege. There's probably other little

07:04:02.100 subgroups. But I think that when women talk about male privilege is when you're going into an

07:04:09.180 atmosphere where you're supposed to be educated, you're supposed to have these qualifications. And,

07:04:14.380 um, the people that are judging you on those qualifications are men. They are probably going,

07:04:22.260 going to be more inclined to think that men have those qualifications. And even, even if they have the

07:04:29.420 same qualifications, the way that a man kind of presents himself, maybe could factor into it too.

07:04:34.220 But, um, I think that men are more inclined to respect other men over women. Yeah. And I think

07:04:41.660 affirmative action hurts that. Actually, they've done studies on this. And so you're, what you said was

07:04:47.760 men are inclined to view men as, as they're going to respect them more. And, and that could be that

07:04:56.620 they think they're more qualified. They think they're smarter. They think they're more capable.

07:05:00.760 They think that they're a better leader. Well, so they did a study on this and I don't know if it

07:05:07.500 was within the context of the workplace. It might've been more of a general thing. So it might not really

07:05:12.440 be related to work, but what they found was, is that actually, so women have a very strong,

07:05:18.420 fairly strong in-group bias for other women and men have a slight out-group bias for women.

07:05:28.500 What does it relate to? I'm not entirely sure, but it could be more, it could be more of a general

07:05:36.420 social sense of it. Um, I don't, I'd have to look at the study to give you exactly what they were

07:05:42.580 looking at, but it does seem to be that women have a decently strong in-group bias. Men have an

07:05:50.540 out-group bias for women, like a favorable thing. Women like women, men tend to like women. No one

07:05:58.240 likes men more than women. Pretty much. Yeah. Um, I don't know about in the workplace. I think I can see

07:06:05.520 that maybe in a social setting, I think especially women do have a bias towards other women just because

07:06:11.240 I think, I mean, I don't know, like I can just, yeah, just, it feels more safe. There's just a

07:06:17.680 little bit of a community and maybe it feels more safe. It feels more safe. Isn't that a bit of a

07:06:21.620 sexist statement to make? No. What are you trying to, are men unsafe? Is that? Yeah. I feel unsafe.

07:06:28.240 I can feel unsafe around men. I don't think that is, you can feel that way, but isn't it a bit of a

07:06:32.920 sexist statement to, no, not at all. Men pose the biggest danger to me. Men, men are the biggest danger to

07:06:40.580 you? Not men in a day-to-day sense. In a day-to-day sense. If there was a woman, a stranger, a woman

07:06:47.180 walking. Criminals are a threat to you. Yes. But it's not clear if men. Men because they possess the

07:06:53.920 like ability to incapacitate me. I think that is the reason that I would feel unsafe, even if they

07:07:01.440 wouldn't. I have a question for you on that. If we were to replace men with a racial group, would it be

07:07:08.020 racist to say what you just said? Oh my gosh. I don't think it would be. Would it be racist?

07:07:14.620 Just replace men with a racial group. Would that be a racist thing to say? I'm scared of

07:07:23.500 ex-racial group. Because statistically they're more violent and aggravated. Yeah, I think you're

07:07:29.980 twisting my words right now. No, I'm not twisting your words. Because, okay, what I'm saying,

07:07:33.020 answer the question. Hold on. Answer the question. Hold on. Answer the question. Is this race stronger

07:07:38.720 than me? Like, do they have a history of abusing women? Like, it's just like, there's just all these

07:07:45.060 factors that I'm talking about that are related to men and not a race. So it's kind of hard for you.

07:07:49.000 Engage with the hypothetical. Yeah, I'm trying to, but it's also. That same scenario can be.

07:07:53.760 Devoid of any evidence, let's just say you changed men to a racial group. Would it be a racist

07:08:02.660 statement to say that ex-racial, I'm scared of ex-racial group. Because they're bigger, faster,

07:08:08.380 stronger. I think that has been done in the past, but I think what I, what I'm talking.

07:08:14.840 Sexist. So then it must be. No. It's sexist. No, but what I'm talking. I don't. I don't think it's

07:08:19.420 to fear for your safety. I think she's saying like. Are you kidding me? Like. Right now, like

07:08:22.920 going outside, walking down the street. I'm going to be more scared of a man on the street than a

07:08:28.360 woman. So is it racist to fear like being in a certain area? I don't think it's racist. Okay.

07:08:33.820 You know what? This is here. This is going to be my main point. What's your main point?

07:08:37.480 The reason that it's scary to be around men in some, you know, like the reason that I would feel

07:08:42.820 more unsafe around men is because I don't know what they are capable of. And, and a man can never

07:08:51.200 have been to jail, but could have, could, and some not, maybe not be classified as a criminal in the

07:08:56.200 legal sense, but he could still pose a risk to me because he can't be predicted. Okay. So make that

07:09:02.280 same exact statement and replace it with a racial group. Does that statement become racist? I don't know.

07:09:10.680 Yeah. Well, it's, I just, I just think that it's like you're, I think it's different. And I think

07:09:17.080 it's like, I don't think it's different. I don't think it's that different.

07:09:21.620 Devon Jackson donated $100. A matriarchy would just look like a group of women deciding where

07:09:28.280 to direct male bodies, effort and suffering to achieve human endeavors. If we are being honest.

07:09:34.060 Yo, Devon Jackson. Good to see you in the chat, man. Thank you for your TTS. Appreciate it.

07:09:37.820 Um, you mentioned when you go out into the street, you feel unsafe. I I'm saying, no,

07:09:45.380 I was using that as an example. I'm moving on from the racial thing, but you say when you

07:09:49.840 go out into the street, like you feel unsafe. I was saying when you're around, when you're

07:09:56.460 around, when you're around men, you feel, I'd say I feel less safe than if you were around

07:10:02.760 women. Okay. Yes. Cause around women, I, there is a sense of community. I don't, I think maybe

07:10:09.500 you just don't understand what I'm saying because you guys are men, but like, if I'm

07:10:13.620 going out, if I'm going to a bar, like, we don't understand what you're saying because

07:10:17.040 we're men, because you have, that's a bit of a sexist right there. Okay. No, okay. It's not

07:10:24.460 just sex. You don't know what you guys experienced because you guys are naturally protective and

07:10:29.500 we wouldn't know that. I didn't say that. Okay. Well, no. Okay. What I'm saying is you guys don't

07:10:34.200 have the experience. And so you might not understand the experience of walking outside of, of constantly

07:10:40.600 being raised to, to look out for yourself. Well, actually, actually, actually most, most

07:10:45.860 violent crime is perpetrated against men. It's men on men. So actually, statistically, men

07:10:51.760 should be more scared of going outside than women. Men are more likely to be victims of

07:10:55.760 violent crime. Like that one question, who are you afraid of though? Yeah. Are you, are you,

07:11:00.840 do you guys ever feel unsafe when you go outside and walk by yourself? Statistically more than

07:11:05.000 you. Are you feeling, are you feeling done by men or are you feeling done by women? It's

07:11:10.820 really the question. Yes. I, I have, I mean, I'm not have you, do you? Yes. Do you on a regular

07:11:17.420 basis feel unsafe when you're like walking by yourself? Because, because maybe, okay, maybe

07:11:23.380 that's just you two, but I just don't think that that is a common experience with men. I think

07:11:28.180 also women are raised to fear for themselves and to be, to not put themselves in scenarios where

07:11:33.840 they could be taken advantage of by men. At least maybe that's how I was raised by my

07:11:38.420 parents. But my parents have always like warned me that men cannot be trusted and you got,

07:11:43.180 you have to be careful. Men cannot be trusted. That's a rather sexist thing for your mom to

07:11:48.620 have taught you. Parents. It's more statistically like. You just, well, hold on. Okay. If this

07:11:55.080 helps you here. Wait, wait, hold on. Let me just make my point. Explain to me how the following

07:12:00.300 statement is not sexist. Men are not to be trusted. Okay. No, no, no, no, no. Answer the

07:12:07.280 question. What? How is that not? How is that not? Just men can't be. Okay. Like anyone can't

07:12:12.680 be trusted, but the point they're making is that men can't be trusted and they could use

07:12:18.540 that against you. Let me ask you. Hold on. Let me ask you. Let me ask you. Let me ask you

07:12:21.400 a man. Hold on. Let me ask you a question. Maybe it would be a different thing. If I could

07:12:24.500 protect myself. If I were to say women can't be trusted, is that a sexist statement? I'm

07:12:30.020 like, I would just be like, okay, I don't know. Is it a sexist statement? I don't think so.

07:12:34.320 You don't think so? I think that's the opinion. I think it's just like. It's a sexist opinion.

07:12:38.620 I don't, I don't know. Women cannot be. Okay. You're trying to make me, you're trying to like

07:12:45.160 put me into a loophole or not a loophole. It's not a loophole. Not a loophole. I'm not. Yeah.

07:12:49.240 Forget I said that. You're trying to make me sound sexist by asking me these hypotheticals. It's not.

07:12:53.880 I'm, I, okay, hold on because. I don't think that there's like a reason why we need to like

07:13:02.460 classify this as being sexist. She's talking about like. Yeah. I'm talking about a different

07:13:06.220 issue. That's what, that's the name of the game for feminists. Classified. Did I even

07:13:10.760 say I was a feminist? Like you're just making. No, she didn't. We were talking about the patriarchy.

07:13:14.620 That's a feminist, uh, conspiracy theory. Yes. Conspiracy theory. It's a feminist conspiracy

07:13:20.940 theory. Yes. If I'll be charitable, it's a feminist. Thank you, Kyle. I theory. I'm not

07:13:26.720 against guns actually. So yeah. I mean, yeah, I was about to say that. Thank goodness. We

07:13:32.040 have a second amendment rights to make sure that women cannot be taken advantage of by

07:13:37.240 men so easily. But I think ignoring the fact that women do feel unsafe when they're walking

07:13:43.640 outside, like at night by themselves, whatever. I don't think that that's an issue that can be

07:13:48.440 ignored and just be chalked up to be like, Oh, but that's sexist. Okay. And actually this

07:13:53.100 is, we completely derailed from my point. I had just mentioned that women feel unsafe

07:13:56.900 and that was why women kind of grouped together. If I, if I was just paranoid about trying to

07:14:03.960 think of an example here of took like a counterpoint. If I was just paranoid about all women being

07:14:09.560 gold diggers and this was like a concern of mine, would that not be a sexist position?

07:14:14.880 No, no, no, no. To think all women are gold diggers. All you want from me is my money and

07:14:21.440 resources. I think it's just a stupid statement. That's also not going to cause you physical

07:14:26.400 harm. Okay. You're, you're saying, okay. Cause you're saying by grouping women all together.

07:14:31.880 Okay. I think you're saying that I think all men are bad. That is not the statement I'm making.

07:14:38.420 I'm saying the statement I'm making is a generalization that all men can be bad. Not

07:14:45.900 that they are bad. So you're saying, Oh, can all women be bad? Yes. 100%. But the point I'm also

07:14:52.880 making is that men have the ability physically. Okay. Nickelodeon donated $100. When I walk to the

07:15:00.280 grocery store, I have keys between my finger. If I need a weapon to punch a man in the face,

07:15:05.440 that is when I approach a woman in the bar, I have to choose my words carefully to not get

07:15:10.140 arrested. Can I answer that? That is so dramatic. Are you kidding me? Nickelodeon, you're fucking

07:15:15.320 legends. What words are you saying? That's going to get you arrested. What you got? Okay. So remember

07:15:20.020 when earlier we were talking about, um, like, uh, jobs, right? Police jobs and stuff. Women, if it

07:15:26.640 were to be three women trying to take down one man versus one man trying to take down another

07:15:30.760 man, we have to take stuff like that into consideration. Okay. Yeah. Maybe it is a little bit

07:15:34.800 sexist if girls are just like, Oh, you know, like we're afraid to walk on the street because

07:15:39.040 of men. Why are you guys afraid to walk on the street? Because you feel like a group of

07:15:43.500 girls is going to come up and punch you in the face. I mean, look at what's going on in

07:15:46.240 New York right now. You have literally one punch man running around and punching girls like

07:15:52.300 just cause, but that's the kind of stuff that we have to deal with. You know, that's, that's

07:15:57.340 really happens. Yeah. But, uh, okay. So generally speaking, well, not even generally

07:16:02.920 speaking, if bystanders watch a woman being physically assaulted, they will step in, men

07:16:10.620 will step in and make sure it is stopped. When the, when the reverse, when the reverse

07:16:16.160 is happening, people just ignore it. If a woman is beating on a man, like they just ignore

07:16:21.980 it. Like, I mean, that is just not true though. Like experiments have been done. Social experiments

07:16:31.920 have been done. And women don't like. And maybe it's just, and maybe that is a societal

07:16:36.560 bias because. Towards women. Because, because society thinks that if the man really wanted

07:16:43.300 to defend himself, he could. So tying it all back into the original topic. Yeah. Seriously.

07:16:47.460 This is like completely like, yeah. Female privilege. Yeah. Okay. Final question. We need to wrap

07:16:56.680 up, but, but, um, uh, are, under patriarchy or women oppressed? No. I feel like we've gotten

07:17:03.600 way off topic from relationships. I agree. Majority of this podcast has not been about relationships.

07:17:08.060 We talked, we talked about munches. We talked about munches. I know. He made sure to get all

07:17:13.220 of our bodies out. And so he talked about munches. We talked about gender roles. I feel like

07:17:20.000 you're just asking a group of random people. Devon Jackson donated $100. As a man who was

07:17:26.180 raised to protect women, even if I don't know them, I can say more men than not would protect

07:17:31.080 you than hurt you. Not only am I concerned for myself when I go outside, but women too.

07:17:37.220 It's a fair statement. All right. Yeah. That's a hundred percent. Also, I will say when it comes

07:17:44.200 to the threat of violence out in the street, as women, if some guy starts attacking you

07:17:50.960 and there's other men around, not always, but you do sort of have like, there probably

07:17:59.940 will be a man or many men who will be prepared, total stranger who will be prepared to white

07:18:05.920 night and jump in and defend you. I don't even, I shouldn't say white night necessarily,

07:18:10.520 but, um, they'll be prepared to go ahead and defend a total stranger. Beat the piss out

07:18:17.560 of that man. That, that dude, like if a dude, like if you go to a college party and a guy

07:18:23.700 like were to hit a girl, I think there's a pretty good chance that like total strangers

07:18:30.040 who don't know the girl are going to swarm on the dude, bro. There's a dude, that guy

07:18:35.400 gets fucking lynched like fucked up. Whereas like if a dude just walks up to a random dude

07:18:41.860 and hits them, there won't be random men who aren't affiliated with that dude who will like

07:18:48.300 jump in to try to defend that guy. You're probably right. They're just going to try to split them

07:18:54.380 apart. Maybe, maybe they're there. They might, they're much more likely to try to break it up

07:19:00.200 if it's a woman and then the dude's going to get a beat down. So, I mean, you do have this,

07:19:05.100 there's too much of this, like men are these criminals. I also should say like men are going

07:19:10.200 to be there to also protect you too. We don't speak enough about like male heroism.

07:19:15.240 No, I would say the majority of men, like women benefit from the patriarchy because a majority of

07:19:21.920 men are there to protect women. There, of course, there are going to be men who abuse their strength

07:19:27.020 and use it to hurt women. And I will be there to make sure that does not happen. But that is also

07:19:34.140 the majority of men. I think the majority of men would stand in front of a bullet.

07:19:39.020 Double bicep real quick? Yeah. Can I have you on call or what?

07:19:43.680 Yeah, yeah. I'm like, hey, I need to walk home.

07:19:45.120 Take my number anytime.

07:19:47.900 Okay. Yeah. But majority of men are there to protect women.

07:19:51.420 So like, yeah, if I, yeah, if me or Mason, like we get jumped by three dudes, like there's not going

07:19:58.940 to be other dudes. I have to fight for my own life. Unless they're friends. If there's like other

07:20:04.580 dudes around, they'll never intervene and like try to help us. I mean, I agree. So what's the point

07:20:09.140 though? You have a little bit of protection out there from men. Is that it though? Because it's

07:20:15.900 also, who are you protecting the women from? Who are you protecting women from? You know,

07:20:20.720 like, I just, I don't understand the point of that argument. I agree. Like under the patriarchy,

07:20:25.180 they, is it the patriarchy that guarantees that? I don't know. I need to like, this always comes up

07:20:30.500 when we're having these conversations. Like, well, but who's the, like, you know, I mean,

07:20:36.040 if you're going to act like the savior, then it's like also like, who are you saving the

07:20:39.660 criminals from? But you know, like the criminal could be, you know, like any, any man really.

07:20:46.200 I need to actually, I need this almost always comes up in this conversation. I actually think

07:20:51.380 it's a fallacious argument to say, well, but who's the one who's being the violent person?

07:20:58.400 Who's the one who's doing the bad thing? Who's the cause of this bad thing that's impacting

07:21:04.440 men? It's men. I know that it's a fallacious argument and I actually need, I don't have a

07:21:11.040 rebuttal to it. I know there's a rebuttal to it because it's a fallacious argument. I just don't

07:21:15.300 have it off the top of my head. The point I was making is that. I'm transferring the violence that

07:21:19.400 is impending upon you to me. So like as a woman in society, you get that privilege that if someone

07:21:26.980 is attacking you, men will step in if they are available, if they're ready. That's if you're around

07:21:33.020 though. Yeah, that's if you're around. That's like, I feel like that's. Well, like that's. So

07:21:37.260 the enforcement arm of the law. So police officers, I mean, they will step in for anybody, but they

07:21:44.360 will overwhelmingly, like men will step in for women to protect them, to take the violence off

07:21:50.660 of them and put it on themselves. The same reason why you, like you don't, I don't, other people

07:21:55.940 don't agree with men, trans women competing in. Oh, sorry. I don't, I don't know if it's

07:22:04.700 trans men or women. I don't know what the competing in women's sports because of the physical difference.

07:22:09.700 How did we get here? Because of the physical difference. The same reason that like it applies

07:22:14.940 to this situation too. Men are physically stronger, bigger, faster than women are just looking at the

07:22:21.200 small situation that there will be men around. There will be police officers around. Like we

07:22:25.860 can't just like zoom into that fact and ignore the, all the other situations where there are

07:22:30.380 situations where women have to fight for themselves against a man. Sure. But in the majority of

07:22:37.400 situations, like if a man gets in a fight with another man, they, if they're alone, okay, regardless

07:22:45.580 if it's a woman, if it's a man, they're going to get beat down. That's terrible, whatever. But if

07:22:50.400 there are men around, they will step in to protect the women. If there are men around

07:22:54.240 for the two man fight, they will not step in. I agree. And I think that's a horrible issue,

07:22:59.320 but I think that's separate. But is that patriarchy or is that just because? Well, I think it is

07:23:03.700 patriarchy because it's ingrained in men to protect those who are less able to. Yeah. But is that the

07:23:11.600 patriarchy? But it can also be, yeah, I would agree that it's the patriarchy because in the natural

07:23:17.000 world, you see that not just in humans, but also in animals, animals will protect those that are

07:23:23.920 under it. So male lions will protect its harem. Okay. All that's not the structure of all animals

07:23:31.400 though. Ah, I don't, I don't know. Yeah. Hyenas. Hyenas. We watched National Geographic.

07:23:40.320 Are you talking about the hyenas? Hyenas. The female hyenas have penises? Well, that, but also like,

07:23:47.740 I thought they have penises. No, they can like, wait, do they? Yeah. Female hyenas have penis. No,

07:23:52.320 it's because they can retract their like sexual organs to allow. They got dicks. I forgot the name for

07:23:56.840 that. Those female hyenas. Ooh, they got some penises. They got some slungs on them. God damn,

07:24:03.500 have you seen a female hyena penis? Sorry. Anyways. Should we wrap up? Let's wrap up. Last thing.

07:24:11.040 Do you want to just like double down on the whole like women voting thing really quick? Just to

07:24:15.300 just at the end? I disagree, but I mean, after what you've heard from this panel tonight,

07:24:23.960 are you just so steadfast in your position now? I've always been steadfast, but it hasn't been

07:24:29.780 before. Okay. All right. How does it feel guys that you guys have encouraged her to be more steadfast

07:24:37.040 in her anti-women voting position? Something tells me that we weren't going to change your mind

07:24:44.700 anyway. I mean, I'm willing to change my mind. Uh, let's see here. Final hot take argues men are more

07:24:52.820 oppressed than women? Yes. I don't think so. So women are more oppressed than men then? Or is it equal?

07:25:03.120 Oppressed by society? By what? Different? Yeah, I don't know. It's different. Okay, we're gonna.

07:25:09.640 I'll just, okay. Especially women and minority. Minorities. I think men are more oppressed.

07:25:15.660 I think women for sure. No, because for example, I'm going into engineering. Women have more are

07:25:24.680 going to be more likely to get hired than a man. I'll just, I'm going to wrap up. I'll do final word

07:25:32.740 here on this. Uh, I would say all feminist arguments about oppression are dead on arrival. We already

07:25:38.840 talked about this. All of women's collective grievances fall flat in the face of just one

07:25:46.400 sole male grievance, military conscription. I'm sorry. Collectively, you can't, I can't think of an

07:25:57.080 example that's worse than the infliction of suffering upon males exclusively when it comes to warfare,

07:26:06.740 forced military conscription. You can even argue that even volunteer, uh, men who volunteered for

07:26:14.160 the military, that was some sort of gendered expectation on them and they suffered, uh, nevertheless.

07:26:21.740 So there's there, I do think when it comes to warfare, they try to say that there's glory in war,

07:26:28.440 but the reality is, is that war is brutal in ways that most people can't imagine until you've experienced

07:26:34.120 it. Um, I haven't experienced it, but you know, there's obviously historical accounts. You, you hear

07:26:41.360 about shell shock, PTSD. Um, you, you, you see videos of these men from world war one, world war two,

07:26:48.740 the injuries that were suffered, the experiences that were had. I mean, it's just barbaric and brutal

07:26:55.920 and catastrophic and egregious and just fucking insane. It's insane for shizzle. Sorry. I shouldn't

07:27:07.660 be flippant. I'm sorry. I shouldn't be flippant about a serious subject, but, um, all right guys,

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07:27:55.140 on Twitch, I'm going to prep a raid here really quick. Um, Nick, can you pull up these super chats

07:27:59.840 and then Mason, can I have you read these super chats for us? Yeah, I got you.

07:28:05.960 Oh yeah. Uh, my ex-girlfriend is Ukrainian. She lives in Kiev. I had, I have photos and video

07:28:13.000 from her B-Day March 4, Valentine's Day and Christmas. Her manicure, makeup, hair, clothes

07:28:19.440 and flowers does not scream despair. While things are bad, yes, a machine is pushing narrative.

07:28:28.520 Interesting. Interesting. She lives in Kiev. Oh, she's still in Kiev. Okay. Uh, yeah, she's,

07:28:35.440 you know, it's going well, going well. Uh, next one, Nick. Uh, if you're so scared, carry

07:28:43.860 a gun. Always use your second amendment right. Retweet. Yes. Would you guys get, last thing,

07:28:53.000 would you date a guy who owns a firearm? It depends. Legally owned a firearm, AR-15? Sure.

07:29:00.260 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Oh, okay. Cool. Sweet. All right. That's it for all the chats,

07:29:07.000 guys. Um, let me just see who we're going to raid over there on Twitch. I'll do my outro

07:29:11.500 really quick. Uh, hold on. Let me just get this loaded up. I don't understand what a raid

07:29:16.160 is. Oh. They just like move all the people. Yeah. We move the people over to a different

07:29:20.820 stream. I'm going to raid. Hold on one sec, guys. Show intro here. Okay. Uh, so those of you

07:29:28.600 who are watching on Twitch, I'm going to raid somebody. Last call, hit the like button,

07:29:32.160 please, on your way out. Thank you for tuning in tonight. You could have been anywhere in

07:29:34.400 the world, but you're here with me. I appreciate that. Thank you to everyone who super chats,

07:29:37.840 donates, and supports the show. We will be live again Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific. I think

07:29:41.580 we've got a doozy, a doozy on Tuesday. Going to be a very solid show. Any girls who want

07:29:45.880 to be on the show, DM out, whatever. Big thank you to our wonderful panel here. Um, I know

07:29:50.740 we went late. I appreciate you guys, uh, burning the midnight oil with us. Um, we, uh, what's

07:29:58.160 it called? Oh, shit. It's like one in the morning. Yo, I told you it goes fast. It goes

07:30:06.000 fast, bro. We better be getting. Yeah. Okay. Don't worry about it. Okay. So thank you to

07:30:12.500 the panel. You guys were great. I do want to thank, uh, we had, I didn't, you know, I

07:30:16.760 didn't say this earlier. We had three no shows. So Nick went into the mean streets of

07:30:21.520 Vila Vista, did some fucking recruiting. I appreciate that, Nick. If otherwise we wouldn't

07:30:26.300 have, you know, we were a bit delayed. So thank you, Nick. Shout out to Nick for being

07:30:30.660 a fucking trooper going into a mean street. And it was, it was drizzling a bit. So, okay.

07:30:36.260 Over on Twitch, I'm rating WhoaGrandma78. She's, she's playing World of Warcraft. She's, um,

07:30:45.840 a grandma. She's got, she's currently got 300 viewers. So we're going to give her a little,

07:30:51.460 a little surprise rate here. WhoaGrandma78 playing World of Warcraft. Um, tell her she

07:30:58.280 should come on the whatever. Tell her she should, we're inviting her. When you rate her

07:31:02.360 guys, tell her, um, to come on the whatever podcast. WhoaGrandma78. She's, I assume she's

07:31:09.080 in her seventies. So, okay. I'm starting the rate of there over on Twitch. Uh, that's going

07:31:14.220 to go in just a sec. So those of you leaving on Twitch, thank you for tuning in over there

07:31:18.760 on Twitch. That's going out in three seconds. And then I'll say goodbye to our good friends

07:31:24.240 on YouTube. Okay. Rating now that should have gone through and then here on YouTube. So

07:31:33.700 thank you everyone else on YouTube. Those of you still on Twitch 07s in the chat. Good night

07:31:40.460 guys. Thank you for tuning in. We will see you on Tuesday. I think it's Tay versus Kiko.

07:31:45.260 Um, I think we'll see. We'll see. We'll see what it's, it's going to be good one. All right

07:31:49.600 guys. Good night. Bye.

07:31:50.700 Bye.

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