She Wants A Traditional Man But WILL NOT Take Husbands Last Name?! | Dating Talk #117
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Summary
In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast, we have our first guest on the show, a rapper, singer, songwriter, and content creator named Gotcha and Soul. We talk about how they met, how they got started in the music industry, and what it's like teaching English in a foreign country like Canada.
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the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead my name is
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pearl bots i'm 31 and i'm a singer songwriter and content creator gotcha and uh you recently went
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pretty viral you had a tiktok clip instagram reel go very viral which we'll react to after we uh
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get through all the intros but uh there's a new york post article were there any other news
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organizations that published anything or just yeah uh the daily mail australia um honestly a few i don't
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remember them all okay well we'll get into it here shortly what about you hi my name is ava marie
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and i'm 25 and a recording artist gotcha and you sing too correct what kind of music do you both
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make uh r&b and soul we met at a songwriting camp okay and what kind of music do you make
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i'm all over rapper r&b pop r&b pop can you rap no rap can you drop some never say never drop a
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freestyle on the whatever you guys said you make music together right yeah nice can we are you a
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soprano yes technically i am yeah can we maybe we could hear a little you want to sure maybe later
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oh later okay we'll save it for later we'll save it for later sure what about you um my name's
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jacklyn i'm 33 and i teach english teach english okay um in high school elementary school no it's
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esl so it's like a private campus so it can be 17 to 100 it doesn't matter english as a second
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language gotcha and are you primarily teaching like kazakhstani kid what uh the biggest group
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right now is french it tends to move like you're teaching french kids how to speak english yeah
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okay that's the dominating gotcha are you in can are you in canada canada well that's typically
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where in north america you'd expect yeah a lot of french speakers so no yeah okay all right what
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about you my name is kylie i am 25 and i do tattoos for a living okay very cool how long have you been
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doing tattoos a couple years gotcha all right cool hi my name is ali i'm 25 and i am a project
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specialist for a supply company all right welcome hi i'm tiffany i'm 18 i go to ucsb i'm majoring in
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political science welcome hi i'm jackie uh i'm 23 and i code for a living you code for a living yeah
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i'm a software engineer software engineer okay gotcha hi i'm emily i'm 19 and i go to cuesta college
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as a criminal justice major all right sweet y'all know me chase 28 years old professional
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photographer and brand consultant rock and roll we're gonna go around the table once more so please
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tell us what your current relationship status is so are you single talking stage situationship
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friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem a member of a harem
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if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been
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in go ahead i'm single i've been single for two years and the longest relationship i've been in is a
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year and a half all right got it and you both live in la correct okay gotcha what about you i'm single
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i guess you could say since september ish so like you guess yeah complicated what are you what are
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you trying to do nick what are you trying to do nick what are you trying to do what are you trying to
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do nick it's so over right bro actually hold on hold on nick's getting guillotined
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it takes him literally 30 seconds go to stream yard f11 jesus christ okay scuffed um
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it's okay it's all right we're back we're back go ahead who where did i live you were i think you
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were saying she was saying it's complicated so you've been single since september so to about two
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months you've been single longest relationship i guess on and off for four years whoa okay on and
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off for four years everything's with an ish ish what does that mean wait it's currently complicated
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is that no a single okay single for a couple three let's say two three months longest relationship
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four years but on and off again uh how many like breakups were there
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how many times was three off and back on three oh just three okay that's some people will in on
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again off again situations that shit will break up every week so you know dozens of times
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strong three okay all right so not too too toxic but a little toxic pretty toxic who of the times there
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was a breakup who was initiating it was a you or the guy i'm always the one you'd always break up
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you know people will say things people will change for a certain amount of time and show action
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that follows up what they say but then slowly old habits come back it takes a lot for someone to
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change you really have to want it for you you know there's a seinfeld episode about how it takes a
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solid three times to really break up with someone and i really i think that's true but anyways so
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who would come back to who would you go back to him or would he come back no no he would dm again
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after the blocking was up or make a full new fake account full new number between yeah that particular
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person made a new instagram and a new number to contact me so and emailed wow and he was able to
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slide through your defenses um you know i i'm not like ruthless so i'm just gonna i'll be like i'll
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hear you out we can meet for coffee see what's up okay attest the vibe did the same problems keep
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sort of sort of a new additional ones would come up i feel like as you spend more time with someone you
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learn more about them you see them more so in a different light you spend more time with them
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so new things were coming up for sure and then life threw some curveballs his way that change
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yeah yeah you know was he very because you said he would make like new numbers and different emails
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like you would say no but would he keep like was it badgering pestering to a degree yeah okay
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because yeah yeah how did he not give you the ick by doing that well he did like at obviously
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but then how did he recover from giving you the ick time i think because i just didn't really care
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anymore like i didn't feel the same way so i was like you know i'll just hear you out as a friend i
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was already talking to someone else it would it was like i think the longest in between was like a
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year once we went without speaking i was over the whole thing so i was like it was more so on some
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friends stuff and we both had changed and grew and were in different places of our life so then
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it just became completely different i was different i don't know and then it kind of took a while and
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then then yeah yeah you know but we're here now you said you were single you've been single for two
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months was this on again off again relationship the one that ended two months ago no different
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different relationship okay different uh while you were in the on again off again relationship was it
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exclusive was it monogamous or were you guys seeing other people or well that's definitely
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part of the issue um we were seeing other people ish but ish can we define do you want to be doing
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that and should that that was not see i guess you would call it a situation chip honestly it was
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during college too so it's a whole other that was a whole other thing okay college is different who
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was it more of an issue with that you guys were seeing other people definitely me you had more
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of an issue with him seeing other people yeah oh okay yeah but you were seeing other people too
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yeah but that was why was it more of an issue that he was doing because i specific we specifically
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had a conversation about how that wasn't going to happen and then once i figured out that was
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happening on his end because it wasn't on mine originally i was like well i'm not just gonna
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sit here wait so hold on let me get this straight i'm not trying to pry but no go ahead you broke up
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with him and then blocked him later later okay so what was the agreement before you blocked him hey
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we're not going to see anybody yeah yeah yeah it was and then he saw people yeah but if you blocked
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him why why would you care well no he saw people before that and obviously that triggered me being like
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okay well i'm not going to see you anymore and be with you you know that makes sense because i we
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specifically had a conversation that you just went against i'm all about honesty because like
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he violated your trust yeah and trust is important oh for sure yeah betrayal was like the main feeling
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he'd do that before you guys broke up say that again did he do that before you guys broke up did
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what see other people yeah that's why we broke up wait point of clarification were you when you say
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like during this whole on again off again thing when you were seeing other people was it during
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on stages or during off stages or both eventually both because the lines were so blurred at that
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point it was a mess you know if you've ever been in a toxic situation it just you know good times
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it was doomed clearly but you know okay all right well there you have it um what about you
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so i am very much single um very much single very much single what is what is the difference
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between single and very much single i'm not talking to anybody i just ended a four-year
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relationship similar i was like oh it sounds like she's talking about me yeah four years on and off
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i just like two weeks ago it was two weeks ago wait yeah so you've been single for two weeks i've
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been single for two weeks that's fresh how does that feel right now um it's mixed feelings because it
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was yeah just definitely toxic definitely a lot of what she was saying you know just like my trust
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was not there he cheated on me um and he was just i don't know he had very weird tendencies i guess
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like how so oh i don't want to talk too much about him but you know um he was very shy like shy to the
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point where like he wouldn't even go in like in anywhere with me like we would go to like the
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dispensary and he would be like can you go in and i'm like he never would want to go in like
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anywhere and then was he like scared no and i mean like if we went grocery shopping and stuff like that
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but it's like i don't know he's really weird about the dispensary for some reason and he's like he
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didn't ever want to hang out with any of my like roommates my friends like ever so it's like him and
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his friends were always number one and then it was like i came second sneaky link um hey probably
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probably so wait four years on again off again relationship how many times was it on and off
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honestly like like seriously like three times oh i was like just sounds like me you guys say the same
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guy yeah right so three times really just three times okay seriously three times rule of three i
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guess like she said um it takes three times to break up so okay three times um more often than not
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who was breaking up with the oh sorry hold on just a sec grid one motorsports donated 99
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is this in japanese what is happening right now ever stab at anyone the level of toki city here is
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epic dot on and off again seems to be the tema of the night drug use and toki chic behavior seems like
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it is going to be a great show oh that was english it was a japanese i gotta fix that japanese accent i
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have to fix that how did that get turned on i need to i it must be one of my settings
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um sorry grid one you are a japanese woman i guess um can you pull up that comment again without it
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without without the yeah without the voice yeah yeah because that was a pretty funny comment here what
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i'm gonna do is i don't know if i can wait let me see i'm gonna mute and then i'll pull it do you
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want to read it chase and i'll fix i think we should have ava read it
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do you want should i go yeah go for it go for it red hair equals red flags how many tires have you
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slashed ever stabbed anyone the level of toxicity here is epic on and off again seems to be the theme
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of the night drug use and toxic behavior seems like it's going to be a great show he's he's out for
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you have a response to that um there was no mention of drug use um so i don't know where
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you got that that's for her oh that's for her but okay how many tires have you slashed none no
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yeah because no we've had some stabbings not on the show definitely no recently i do not promote
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violence okay good good sorry grid one that i think it should be fixed now it should be i'll know
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what happened there um so i think i was asking you more often than not who was breaking up with
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who i think that's where we left off yeah it was pretty even like it was pretty even um yeah so
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i would say equally we did like um he would break up with me and then like i like i would want him
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back and i would break up with him and he would want me back like it was very back and forth you said
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it was only there's only like three breakups major times like oh like there was space in between us
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like talking or hanging out where like other times it's just like the toxicity of like you know like
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f you like i'm gonna go do whatever or whatever so would there ever be like a minor split so you're
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talking major split where there'd be what weeks months yeah but maybe a minor split where it'd be
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like a couple days yeah exactly how often would that happen a lot a lot okay i still consider that
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like a technically off period a lot like i want to say like 15 to 20 times damn yeah okay so
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including the major and the minor on and offs you said it was still pretty evenly split yeah okay
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and does that change anything for you like were there like little minor like okay okay b i'm just
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we're done and then like the next day you guys get back together have you did you have that okay all
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right i got a follow-up question for both of you were there any red flags at the beginning of the
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relationship where you could have predicted this behavior yes yeah yeah what did that look like that's
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like huge growth rule number one what you see in the beginning is what's gonna end it you can't
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change the person period so so what did you see in the beginning oh you know playboy vibes blah blah
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whatever what does that look like um like well first of all it was again college very different
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time but going out to parties a lot playing on the sports team that was really big like constant girls
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are always around fawning whatever and they love the attention someone who can't be alone ever always
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needs like their team to build them up you know that sort of vibe and it would be like pulling teeth
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to have a date actually be set for things you know so yeah so you wanted the chad that was fooling
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around with all the other girls i wouldn't call him a chad you thought you could save him you thought
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you could change him or what i didn't think i could change him because i think it kind of it's always
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the guy who i i feel like i don't necessarily care about either in the beginning where it's just some
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casual thing we met casually it wasn't a planned anything and i'm like oh like when we first met i
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was i had no clue who he was and was very like who are you like like i wasn't really like oh my god
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who is that like i did not feel that way and then slowly but surely just time passed started getting to
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know the person hanging out and then like feelings crept up on me so i had no intentions of being like i'm
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gonna bag this guy and change him like that was not the vibe at all just kind of organically grew
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yeah um yeah and then feelings got deep on both ends but just wasn't the right time have you had a
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rebound yet not yet what about you rebound you said it was two months ago well the thing two months
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ago is a different guy from this four-year thing but have you had a rebound from the diff the most
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recent guy sure yeah sure yeah okay all right rebound ish got it what about you so i am single
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i've been single for a few weeks now and my longest relationship is about three and a half years
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recent breakups a few weeks how long was your most recent relationship it was like five six months
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yeah oh and what about yours how long was your most recent one the september breakup i guess
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like eight ish months was it a situationship or like a proper boyfriend i guess you well it's um
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i feel that i feel that you know i just it was a proper relationship and then the last month it wasn't
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technically why because we broke up before and then we ran into each other at something and then
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we're like uh and then we tried it again but it wasn't really what it was before before yes it was
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okay this is a total non sequitur that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation
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we're having right now my ocd is like you guys are both wearing jean jackets and sitting right next
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to you you look like an amorphous mob blob is one of you like could you maybe just to satiate satiate
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my ocd could you like maybe remove the unless like you are wearing something underneath well okay hold
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on the way yeah i can i can take my jacket off just because okay just because like help differentiate
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did your turn i went i went already oh you did wait huh she said she's single broke up a few weeks
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ago yeah yeah okay gotcha um why did he dump you he didn't dump me oh shit my bad what what an
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assumption brian rude rude why did you dump him well it was it was mutual yeah
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it was super mutual just not each other's people so rebound have you had a rebound no not yet no
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rebound okay what about you um i am newly in a relationship a little over a month congrats
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thank you how is it um it's new um because i got like my heart shattered back in march
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sorry to hear that so it's okay um so i had to start over basically everything relearning myself
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well how long was that relationship the heartbreak a year one year exactly a year
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damn since the day i met him you broke up on your anniversary yeah longest longest relationship it
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was that one oh you said it was a year you said it was gonna be like the happily ever after like oh
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my gosh he fixed a heart he didn't break and then yeah okay sorry to hear that talking stage
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okay talking stage um and but you haven't met this guy correct no never met him in person i'm meeting
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him in like three weeks he lives in where alabama and okay how'd you guys meet he goes to school in
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alabama he lives in uh nola new orleans how'd you guys meet um he saw me on tiktok and dm me on
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instagram what was your tiktok something talking about kanye what'd you say about kanye i have no
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idea you don't what i think she is it is it like cancelable were you saying kanye was right
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i'm i don't know you have here show us your kanye tattoos so you have on your arm number one kanye
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that's show us the other angle nick other angle how many tiktoks have you made of kanye
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other angle maybe well i don't know but maybe that's quite a lot because wait show us again
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there you go and then don't you have a life of pablo on your shoulder yeah okay it's on my instagram
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yeah it's on our ig if you need to see um okay so but you've never had dated anybody nothing prior to
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your no no alabama talking 100 100 what pure what do you mean by that like pure like what what do you
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mean what do you mean like sexually pure okay so version okay what about you uh i i just became
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single yesterday oh shit i'm so sorry so sorry to hear that if you can just speak a little closer to
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the microphone uh newly single yeah you guys split up yesterday yeah okay how long were you guys uh dating
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two years and a month i guess two point damn okay is that your longest relationship um yeah pretty much
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and was it a was it long distance relationship or yeah he lives in south korea so the time difference
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is kind of like really different yeah are you uh korean yeah okay gotcha so am i oh my god me too
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wait so many really what oh my no way are you mixed half korean okay half korean if we get like
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one more girl we got black pink here okay um is that offensive to say i don't know is that i think
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that's okay right was that a reference what'd you say black pink is a south korean pop it's like a
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girl girl girl yeah okay she sings true you could sing pro absolutely not software engineer so she could
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okay i don't see but i can dance beautiful that's all you need kpop team kpop team let's go the trio
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um so many breakups at the table um so but did you guys meet in person yeah yeah of course we went to
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the same college okay so he like he moved to for work or uh he went back to south korea for grad school
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and uh he he's south korean citizen so he couldn't really stay here oh i see so he was here in the
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states for uh college yes gotcha whose decision was it if i may ask it was kind of mutual i think it's
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really hard to do a long distance yeah it's tough yeah was it on the rocks a little bit or yeah i think
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our personality didn't really match that well and it was okay in person but like if since it became all
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yards it was really hard to like keep it up how long was it how long was it long distance
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after winter i guess so like maybe like seven months but i did go back to south korea to see him
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and then he also came to seattle so it's a long time to do long distance stuff okay what's the time
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difference between here and south korea so it's right now it's like five right so it's like 10 a.m
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there i think it's like 16 hours okay that's a tough one how did um you said you guys met in
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college right yeah okay gotcha uh i think that's all the questions after that uh what about you emily
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i'm single and my longest relationship was six months how long have you been single about a year
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one year all right all right cool uh let's uh let's go into the the news article uh nick if you're able
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to pull it up we got about pearl yes about pearl what'd you do bro last episode a girl stabbed her
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boyfriend oh wow wait what's really nothing she claims she threw a cup and then wrestled him on top
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of him and cut him with it but the police report said that she stabbed him with a kitchen knife
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this article okay yeah put this over there i use this oh wait hold on they ruined game of thrones
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donated one hundred dollars okay good to see extra emily back have her on more chat ships you both btw
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though if brian and emily had kids they'd be pale as ghosts
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would you rather smash the hottest trans woman in the world or the oldest woman in the world
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uh maybe we save it for a little later bro we save it for a little later later on in the show
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here i'll pull it back up um we can okay we'll save it we'll save it um yeah for for the record oldest
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woman in the world i've stated it before allow me to state it again maybe we can get into that a
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little bit later uh okay well let's do the article all right uh i use this hack to shame cheap men
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who want to split the bill guys say it's manipulative now do you take issue with the the title of this
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lot of recent breakups must be holiday season again time to shop for a new one to the ladies
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any shopping plans for the holiday season a new man perhaps anybody
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i already got mine so she's are you you're the only one okay all right um
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was it uh he said the first chat was scuffed lots of recent breakups must be time to shop for a new
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the rule is actually you you shouldn't break up during the holiday seasons from i think thanksgiving
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to valentine's day yeah or no is it i think it's well whose rule is this uh i don't know i just heard
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a thing like you just shouldn't break up actually no i think it's from thanksgiving through the new year
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and if you want you can extend it through valentine's day but thanksgiving through new year
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you don't break up i think that's the rule because bad time this is the unofficial brian
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unofficial rule don't break up during those time periods okay let's read let's get to the article
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thank you grid one uh and i think you were saying you feel like this is fair is it fair is it fair title
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i would say that it is inaccurate and an interpretation of the video that i posted why is it inaccurate
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um one it wasn't a hack it was not used to shame rich or cheap men and um maybe guys say it's
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manipulative is the truth in that well let's read the article a bit and then we'll pull up the video
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so uh i don't know like this is it's a lot of uh editorialism with the new york post all the time but
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uh this 100 genius hack will get 50 50 cheapos in check splitting the bill on a first date has
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become a topic of contention amongst singletons online with dissenting views on whether a guy
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should be solely responsible for picking up the tab during the inaugural scroll up a little bit
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but one shady dater you're the shady dater one shady dater has devised a deliciously devious trick
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that's sure to leave tight-fisted fellas with egg on their faces wow this is quite an article
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oh my god curtis underscully undonated 100 ladies who would go on a date with brian bro it would be a
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great date with a candlelight dinner at red lobster you bring the candles and brian will use words like
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baker's doesn't bake simp and chad and young i loved bohang sk party until 7 a.m
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you want to increase the tts threshold uh we'll leave it for now but if should we just shelf them
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till after we're done with the article um we can we'll go around okay he's asking would would you go
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on a date with me a lot of you are single so who would go on a date with brian raise your hand
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no you can you can say yes or no i'm not gonna be offended i would go on a date yeah yeah i think
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maybe maybe i would i don't have any tattoos is that you don't have to okay i figured girls who like
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are heavily tatted or do tattoos might prefer a guy who's tattooed but she can give you some tattoos
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bro she can tattoo her name on your leg i'm okay with that uh no
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um if it's like friendly i guess but i guess that's not into the mic oh sorry if it's friendly
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well you'd only be friends with him are you friend zoning him right now no
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no i'm not is that a friend zone you just got friend zone friend zone rip
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shit can't win oh no oh sorry bro chase what about you oh i would go on a date with you bro
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let's let's go gee we're back yes we're so bad the bromance is real all right okay
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pull up the article uh uh if you want to can get the rest of it yeah when a man wants to go 50 50
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on a date with you do this began going out guru pearl bots your guru an aspiring singer from la in
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a trending tick tock how-to advising all the single ladies on best practices for politely jabbing
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a prospective partner who expects them let's watch the video let's just watch the video nick if you
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when a man wants to go 50 50 with you on a date do this
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oh my god i'm so embarrassed right now um wait you wanted to just be friends
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i'm so confused this whole entire time i thought this was a date oh my god okay i'm so sorry here's
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my card here's my card here's my card and so that went viral yes it did how viral got like 8 million
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views i think on tick tock right yeah something like that i think it's yeah like when a man when a man
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what was the uh nick's getting the guillotine what was the uh response to it like in terms of like
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the comments and stuff were you getting hate were you getting support um definitely a lot of both
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i've gotten a lot of horrible emails lots of really deep like bad dms telling me i should do
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all kinds of stuff i've been called every like racial slur i've been threats like literally an
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insane amount of all kinds of what's the worst thing anybody said to you i mean i don't know if
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i'm even allowed to say it on here am i uh maybe don't yeah it's it's pretty like not according to
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any kinds of guidelines yeah yeah don't worry about it you but people have been mean yeah a lot of like
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also just like stupid you're you're the worst woman on the internet like just kind of like that's like
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the more tame stuff i would say what i saw though when i looked at some of the comments on the video
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you do have some negative comments but it does actually seem predominantly from women that you
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actually a lot of women co-sign what you said is it would you agree with that a lot of women seem to
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agree i've been called genius a lot of times too yes i've also been called a philosopher
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so yeah i mean a lot of positive things too but really like whenever you make any kind of content
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you can't take anything too seriously either from the good side or the bad side like any you just have
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to be yourself and people are going to comment and it's kind of cool that it you know gained a lot
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of traction and like because this kind of topic isn't necessarily the thing that i care about the
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most there's a lot of other things that i care about talking about the most but um you know having
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a bigger audience is always cool um and i do have opinions about dating and stuff so yeah have you ever
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pulled that move on a date uh no i've never had to like i don't really go on dates where well basically
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ever since i decided internally that the energy i wanted to bring was to find the kind of person who
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is like a lifelong partner like somebody who could be the potential father of my children like when i
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had that mindset um i just brought different energy to the places i go and the men who approach me um
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you know if i don't vibe with their energy then i don't go out with them the people who i do vibe with
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they just don't have that kind of energy though i've people always take care of the bill i've never
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had that issue since i decided that um never like never since i decided oh since you decided i have
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i have had experiences many experiences with people who went 50 50 and what i why i made this video is
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because when i grew in self-confidence and self-worth and because of the work that i've done on myself
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because i do think that uh there are a lot of women who expect to be treated like princesses
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or queens or not do anything but they themselves are not doing the inner work or becoming the person
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of character or becoming somebody who could attract that kind of a person but expect that kind of a
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treatment so i do think that there's a lot of responsibility on the woman to become like that
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and if you're attracting men who are wanting to split the bill with you and who are getting mad at
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you or whatever all these people in the comments who are like telling me i'm a horrible person or
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using them for their money i'm like well you're telling me we would also never i would never go
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out with somebody like you like your energy i probably wouldn't connect with and also this video
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wasn't necessarily necessarily supposed to be a hack or advice it was more like a skit to illustrate a
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point i don't really think that you should do this because i do think that it can be you know
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shaming towards men and i don't want to shame men at all for anything and i do think that sometimes
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men are overvalued for their income just like men are women are overvalued for like their physical
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appearance or for sex there's there's oh did you have something i mean you said a lot of things that
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i actually agree with i wasn't expecting that from you oh i i have i have not not to like not to
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shit on you or whatever but like when i watched that video i was expecting like a serious like
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princess complex right that was actually a pretty good yeah and i think that you know we have to all
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take this into consideration when we're watching things on social media it's like it was a 30 second
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clip of like a very small piece of how i think and who i am and of course nobody is going to do all
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of the research go through like all of the other content that i have like nobody really knows you
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and honestly like the sensationalism of this one clip has kind of made me rethink what journalism
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in general is about like with more serious topics if this kind of a silly video is getting blown out
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of proportion and like making people think all these types of things about me based off not what i said
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but of other people's interpretation of it like how much more serious is our understanding of reality
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with like actual news like it i don't know it caused me to reflect you know it's a good point i
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mean the purpose of journalism nowadays because of internet advertising and generating clicks is to
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make things as sensational as possible exactly kind of warping our entire perspective of reality
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did you have i have some stuff about what you said did you have anything you wanted to say about
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well there's there's uh i think three other videos of yours that we thought were interesting
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sure worthy of being pulled up and certainly the grid one motorsports donated 100 surprisingly based
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there question for the panel are you a feminist and if so what does that mean to you i will go around
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the table on that do you consider yourself a feminist and what does that mean to you i do consider myself
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a feminist um what is it what does that mean a feminist to me means that it's it's a recognition that there
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is inequality in the ways in which women and men are treated and that there's a history of inequality
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and it's the fight to reconcile those differences not so that men and women are the same
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but that they're given the same opportunities and so you think like women should be should have to
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register for the draft for example um because you believe in no like equality between the sexes so
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you think should women be able to be drafted for the military um no i don't i think that there's a
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difference between sameness and fairness i think sameness says yes women should be drafted in the military
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just like men should fairness is understanding that women can be taken advantage in ways that men will
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not be taken advantage of like sexually women can be men are actually also can be just taken advantage
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of in that way too so that's true that's true um but given like the history of what it is to be a woman
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it seems like women have more abuse when it comes to that um and women are also more susceptible
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and we're also like the physically weaker sex um and so yeah and also our hormones are very different
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like in the way in which there's i don't even know if all the women here at this table really
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understand like the infradian rhythm like because we're not taught about our cycle and the different
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hormones that we go through in a 28-day cycle yes we know about our periods but we don't a lot of us
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are just now learning about like the follicular phase the luteal phase like and how all of these
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different hormones affect our emotions and understanding all that like there's a lack
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of knowledge and understanding when it comes to being a woman in general so yeah okay to back up
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a second um with your sameness and fairness thing to be honest with you it kind of sounds to me like
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you want equality as long as it's benefiting women but when it's not benefiting women and men can take
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the brunt of it you're like that's cool like i'm fine with that yeah how do you see that well i mean
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if you know if we lived in like a properly feminist world uh there wouldn't be affirmative
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action initiatives to put more women in positions of uh like workplace positions and in academic
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positions if we had a truly equal world women like i said would get drafted into the military like i think
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if if feminists want to truly fight for equality it's like put your money where your mouth is but if
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you only want equality when it's benefiting you then it's not you don't actually want equality you just
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want a world that benefits women more often um saint underscore easy donated 99 i don't understand
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why men are confused about playing the provider role women get pregnant and for the better part of a
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year they are more or less immobilized and dependent on their partner gender roles exist for a reason
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it's not that hard to figure if it's too much for too long we'll boost it um i think you're about
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to respond thank you saint to this no no just to what i just said so do you want me to specifically
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address it just i it just seems to me like feminists want equality where it benefits them but when it
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comes to actual quality like working all of the roughest jobs in the world for example that are
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extremely dangerous and high risk like when it comes to those jobs feminists never want equality
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there they only want equality in the places where it benefits them but when men have to pick up the
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rest of the slack they're like yep that's fine like we don't want equality there you go do that men
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you know it's like i don't i don't think you actually want equality i think you just want
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more benefits for women if you're defining equality as equal outcomes throughout society
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equal outcomes throughout society equal opportunity or no like we all do the exact same thing
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yeah women talk about wanting equality throughout society but if you're i think equality is a tough
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term because uh if by equality you're where if you want you do you want equal opportunity instead
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i think i whatever you're talking about like defining equality as um do you want equality of
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outcome or equality of opportunity i would say that i don't think that women are fighting for uh okay
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so do you want equality of outcome or equality of opportunity because i'm talking about equality of
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outcome but if you want what many feminists want which is equality of opportunity i guess the question
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i have is what opportunities do i have that you don't okay i would say that this is how i would
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telling you we should raise the tz this is crazy dollars well that was short-lived men are more
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likely to be sick than women women have rights men do not have men have no parental rights feminism
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has failed you how can the patriarchy help you today if if it does it like more we'll boost it go ahead
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okay i think that women were in a position for a very long time where we were being treated very
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horribly and we still are in positions where we are treated very unfairly and very horribly well how
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so well what also what evidence do you have that throughout history broadly speaking all women or most
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women were treated i think did you say poorly or unfairly i think she said horribly horribly yeah it's not
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clear to me if women were specifically because of their gender or just because they were women or
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happened to be women that they were treated horribly i mean there were people who were being burned at the
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stake because someone called them like the salem witch trials yeah like that i would say it's unfair
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men who were enslaved and forced into conscripted labor and military service that women were protected
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from yeah i'm not saying it wasn't bad for men um but i would say that there are just
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yeah i think before we continue because the initial question was asking everybody if you consider
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yourself a feminist why don't we just go around the table yeah get everybody's answer to that yeah
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do you consider yourself a feminist and what does that mean to you yes um and to me
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i think that means equal opportunity also outcome though right because honestly at the end
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the day if a woman does want to be drafted or does want to go fight for our country why not not let her
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yeah like it's not about it's not about women not being able to serve it's more that men have to
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register for the selective service and women don't well i think the argument is like might as well then
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make it equal though right because you think women should be drafted for the military in order to prove
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this point sure we can say that just because i think that's a terrible idea i mean but the thing is
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your art because i'm absolutely i'm absolutely not but i don't want my i don't want my daughters
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getting drafted well yeah okay wait so but anatomy wise like pearl was saying we're born not as strong
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upper body wise like for example like i knew this one lady i forget her name but she was like this
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karate instructor and i saw her do more push-ups than all these men that were like jacked but the way
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she had worked so much harder to get it like that than them because it is a little bit like naturally
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easier for a man to bulk up doing upper body stuff whatever it's just like yeah right so i feel like
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when it comes to you're addressing a lot of physical jobs right so i feel like in now flipping the script
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of like a lot of caregiver jobs i feel like women have and you guys can't give birth we can never give
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you that like as a a thing to do like we will always be the person to bear a child and go through that
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and put our bodies through that so it's like at the end of the day complete equal everything is
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technically not possible if you're talking about physical jobs physical things because anatomy wise
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genetically we are different so it's like there's only so far that argument we're gonna reach a ceiling
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with that stuff but when it comes to opportunity like and what pearl was saying i feel like going off
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of that as i i'm in the music industry i go to a lot of talks i talk i see a lot of women that have
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gained very very powerful roles in the music industry but it's like one in five on the panel where there's
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like an anr that's a woman and the way she explains how she got there and how she you know a lot of the
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time is in a room full of men and it takes a very i think well-rounded educated group of people to
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when a woman speaks up in the room treat her and respect her word just as much as a man i think i
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do see that a lot and sometimes it's subconscious as well so i think it's bringing everything to a
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conscious state of when a woman speaks and a man speaks at an equal educational level let's say you
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respect both their word evenly like that is what feminism is to me and do you think that because
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there are you used female a and r um what is that's art something repertoire something in
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repertoire what does an a and r works at a label and kind of like scouts new talent listens to music
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what what's it's uh what does it stand for though i think it's blank i forgot what the a
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stands for but it's blank and repertoire uh do you think that this discrepancy is due to sexism
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um some somewhat maybe do you think the fact that for example
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that women earn more in modeling or that women earn more in the sex work industry do you think
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that that's evidence of sexism against men um i mean i don't know much i don't know i mean maybe
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yeah and i do want to go around the table get everyone's answer on this just to add on one thing
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um do you think for example women women's nba or women's soccer the fact that they get paid less
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or women's tennis for example i think that's unfair do you think that that's unfair or evidence of
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sexism i mean i do because if i'm looking at the work that a person does like if like a female
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soccer player why is why is she not getting paid just as much as a male soccer do you want to know
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the answer to that well i know let maybe we have the everyone else give their take on that but
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uh so here let's go around the table are you feminist what does that mean to you
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what do you think about women getting paid less in the wmba soccer athletic fields etc um i'm not a
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feminist um i definitely like more traditional based um but i guess for me i think in today's world like
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men just like they want that kind of woman without being like the type of man that deserves that kind
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of woman right it's like if you want me to rub your feet make your food wash your clothes all that
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stuff but yet you're not providing for me you're not even giving me like you're you're not even
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making me a priority right so i don't know i guess i feel like that part is like lost on i don't know
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this generation you want a traditional world where women can be traditional and the men are also
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traditional and they're actually living up to those values definitely like if i had a man that was
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actually living up to those values i would not a dude who's like afraid to go into the dispensary
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he's not a bad guy he's not he's yeah just different personalities but yeah okay yeah but
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a feminist is someone i think who believes in women's rights and um and really advocates for them right
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i'm just unfortunately don't i i wouldn't consider myself one and i think that the wnba don't get it
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because it's like views right like there's way more views for the mba so it's like the money that
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people are putting into it it's like not as much yes okay would you consider yourself a feminist i
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don't think i would consider myself a feminist i support women um but i guess i just don't identify with
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the current feminist values why is that um i feel like modern feminism
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i mean i'm totally cool not getting drafted i don't i don't want to get drafted as you should be
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i do not want to i'm okay with not being completely equal yep i think it works out better
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yeah it's good for a society to protect its women from war i think so yeah um we shouldn't send them
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into the meat grinder i don't i don't want to go yeah i think that's totally fair and reasonable as
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well but they want to go to war though i'm kidding um but yeah i i support women um
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but i'm cool not being totally completely like equal okay that's that's fine with me cool how about
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yourself do you consider yourself a feminist i'm gonna preface this by saying that i am not educated in the
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matter but i am i am more like jacqueline where i'm very traditional i am also which is kind of
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like contradictory i'm also very independent like i have my own full-time job i don't need a man to rely
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on for um you know money or anything but also at the same time i'm just very i grew up traditional so
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i don't know anything else to be quite honest sweet cool how about yourself i'm not a feminist i do
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believe in equal opportunity but i don't think that it makes sense for us to advocate that advocate
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for that in today's society why why are you not a feminist women already have all the opportunities
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men have do you feel like feminism was like a healthy movement do you feel like it's become
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unhealthy at this point yeah it's toxic why is it toxic because it's making men feminine and women
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masculine so true so true how about yourself um i don't think i'm a feminist but um i i wouldn't
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consider myself like traditional because i wouldn't want to stay home i think like both genders should
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have like kind of like if they're smart and if they're really good at like coding for example then
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i think they should get into coding but i don't think if you're to the mic a little bit more if you're
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like not qualified for the job i don't think you should be so like that just because you're like
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a woman or like man so you feel like if a woman's qualified for a job she should be able to get it
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yeah if if she's actually qualified do you intend on having a family someday yeah of course do you
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want to have kids yeah would you want to keep working while you're pregnant and stuff well i'm i
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code i can just code at home okay cool how about yourself emily feminist um no i wouldn't consider myself
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feminist i i don't really like the new wave i mean people talk about like third wave fourth
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wave feminism there's just like too many i feel like women already have all of the equal opportunity
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that we need and that we wanted um but now it's begun to like take this sort of turn where it's like
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we want to support all women but it's not women we're always supporting so i would say um i'd rather
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protect women and no i don't want to get drafted what do you what do you mean it's not always women
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who you're supporting emily um so i'd say i see more are you telling me it hurts women for trans women
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to go into their bathrooms is that what you're telling me right now yeah i think it hurts women
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for feminists to support that movement because you're putting women in an unsafe situation nine
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times out of ten um and yeah most most often than not i see the feminists supporting that kind of
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thing so i wouldn't really identify myself with that are you telling me that feminism has gone way
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too far yeah it's not even like the same thing it was back in the 60s or anything are you telling me
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it's low-key destroying our modern world i think you're pretty base yeah we're back we're back where
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do you want to take it from there uh let's see well that was the chat so there was do you want to talk
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about why wnba players yeah i need to give these here maybe you guys can pass these down to give one
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to tiffany and give one to uh anonymous to sit on these guys you guys need see boosters you're causing
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mightism to flare up that or it's the vaccine change your shirt so you don't have a floating head on the
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background bring yeah it does it's like uh yeah i look like i'm blending it i'm like camouflage it's
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an orange jumpsuit jesus is the way all right for causing your tism to act up anonymous anyways uh
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to go back to the wnba thing this your position is one that i've heard many many women say and
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especially like you can look at the women's soccer team the national women's soccer team for
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the usa they're always like talking about how unfair it is that they get paid less money
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the reason why it's like that is because sports and sports broadcasting is a business and the
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reality is far less people want to watch women play soccer it's not like there's like
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grid one motorsports donated 100 okay chase last one sorry it throws you off ladies that think you
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are feminist please try and understand that men value you but feminism must devalue true
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curious what what qualities do you look for in a man here we'll come back to i'll write that question
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down we'll come back to that so yeah but it ultimately comes down to like there's not like
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a governmental organization that's like we're gonna pay them this much for sure the teams play
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there's advertisers that pay advertising money and then they get like it's a business they get a cut
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of that but i also think it's because men for so long have been in a position of power and have
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been looked at as like the more physical whatever are the ones who go out and work are the ones who do
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sports are the ones who do this so they have more years of it being socially acceptable it's so it's
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like it's not it's more looked at i don't think it's that complicated but related to that
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go underscore aren't underscore the underscore tbl underscore yes underscore or underscore no donated
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99 dollars be honest do you thnk it's possible that men outperform women in hierarchies not involving
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sex plus beauty not because of sexism but because men have to acquire power and resources to attract
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women and so invest more hours effort and energy on competence it's actually a really good point um
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because there's a there is a mating pressure on men to because there's a lot of women who want men to be
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providers but there's not a lot of men who want women to be providers ergo there's a larger cohort of
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women who in a partner desire a guy who can provide a guy who makes good money therefore can you make
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the argument that if there's this massive pressure from the opposite sex for men to make money that
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they're probably going to want like have a more of a there's performance pressure there's a performance
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pressure we have to perform see that that's the thing women oftentimes almost always are selected
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by men because of their physical appearance their personality their energy so on and so forth
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women generally speaking don't really select men based on just their physical appearance obviously
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women care about personality every woman likes a funny man for example and a guy with confidence
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but men in order to you know really secure a woman they have we have to perform we have to make money we
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have to be able to provide especially if you want a traditional woman like we have to perform in
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society and provide value so there's like competition right and the men who are performing the highest
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typically get the most attractive women right this is why like the celebrities the athletes uh that you
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know all of all of these like wealthy businessmen they have the greatest selection when it comes to women
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so there's like a huge there's a huge competition among men to perform at the highest level as possible but
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women don't have to compete in that same way in order to lock down a partner does that make sense
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yes yeah which is kind of what drives this inequality throughout society like you have one of the
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factors yeah it's it's one of the factors like you have think about like all the billionaires in the
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world they're almost all men because men we have this you know we were talking about hormones before men
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have the hormone testosterone this makes us competitive it makes us aggressive because of the hormone
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testosterone you have you often have like super driven men that are like extremely focused on their
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career and bringing value to society and they become obsessed with their careers and they make
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billions of dollars and they rise to the top of the hierarchy and dudes are driven to do this for
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any number of reasons oftentimes pulling in the best women is one of those motivating factors whether
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or not men are conscious of it so you have this natural thing that's driving massive inequality in
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society that just exists in nature and i don't think it's because of sexism that that exists i think
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it's just because of human nature you guys think that's fair i think that that is fair yeah yeah i think
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that that is fair it's it's the same pressure that women feel to be as beautiful as they possibly can
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exactly and so that's it's it's the exact same pressure so if i say if men are like well you don't have
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to wear makeup you don't have to buy all this stuff it's like well i don't have to but i do i have to
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outperform other women with my beauty in order to attract the kind of man who's who's performing
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to be whatever have the most resources or whatever because men are valued for their resources and
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women are valued for their beauty that's absolutely correct that's biology that's how we're made go
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ahead you had something sorry really quick can i say something before that though i think what there's
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many different forms of feminism but i think the reason that the feminist movement had to happen
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although yes it can be extreme is because um men abused that power and because they created the
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structure of the workforce to benefit them yes maybe in an ideal world if men like protected women
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and they we didn't have to suffer like and like be scared every time i went outside i carry pepper
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spray everywhere i go just in case like and we hear all of these stories that are like i'm being put in
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danger i need a man to protect me from other men who knows what a society would be like if there
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wasn't that kind of abuse and i'm not saying that women don't do anything but i'm saying we're just all
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fucked up and we need each other to help like us balance the scales and for a really long time
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like there was just this huge inequality as far as like safety goes so i think women are saying like
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i need to feel safe like so well i need some power i need some financial power because these men are
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like making me feel unsafe you know what i'm saying so that's why we kind of needed that well
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i think women are much less safe now than they were under the protection of a man who actually loved
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them i think nowadays you have so many strong independent women out there that are like boss
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babes and they're out there working and they're uh walking alone late at night throughout major cities
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and they don't have a man who's protecting them and these women get assaulted you know like whereas
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back in the day throughout traditional what you might call patriarchal societies uh women were
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accompanied by men oftentimes where they would go because yes the world is a brutal place it always
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has been throughout all of human history i i would argue that women were oftentimes safer back then
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i would also argue too what you call um or what many feminists call like liberation and bringing
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women into the workforce so that they could get their independence and and uh you know this is
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something that they secured for their own good i would plant the seed
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donated 100 dollars it's like it's like i lied sue me copy kiko please you carry mace because of
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feminism menus to protect women but you have shamed them into being soy boys realize that men are not
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the evil you want them to be what's this copy kiko i think we should raise it to like 150 so we can
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have conversation go on for more than two minutes maybe grid wait if you can give the give us 30
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minutes just to get through this conversation um i i think i think you know i hear a lot of women
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talk about how they secured independence through joining the workforce and there's an argument to be
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made there i also think this idea of like liberation and empowerment through working like
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you know i talked about this on the last episode read alexander toqueville's writings like the women
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of the 1800s in america they did not see themselves by and large as oppressed like they they knew where
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their domain was and that that was in the home and it was they had pride in mastering that and they raised
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awesome families and they were awesome wives and there was dignity in that position like to be a great
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homemaker it's a very it's a very important role right i think get getting women out of that position
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and into the workforce for the people at the top who run this whole society now all of a sudden you have
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twice the amount of people that are working in industry to support this entire capitalist superstructure and
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then paying taxes it's possible that what you call women's liberation has actually been exploiting
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women as taxpayers when they might be much happier at home as uh wives and homemakers they thought
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about that they might be um i i can't speak for every woman but i do think that there are some women
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who just want to work and they want to have that option to work and i don't i think that there just
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should be that option if women because i mean i'm somebody who yes i want to be a mother yes i want to
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have a husband i do want to have children that is a desire of mine but some people do not and i also
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have a desire to have a successful business just because i want to prove that to myself i like
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working i guess like i don't know about the traditional workforce but like i want to make
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money for myself like um i want to be able to leave a relationship if it's not good so i want to have
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that option and i think before it was kind of forced upon women to choose a certain way and i think
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women were like well just in case i want to have an option has it gone to an extreme measure i think
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in some cases yes when you say you want to be able to work so you have the option to choose to leave a
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relationship do you mean in the context of marriage um any kind of relationship where i might be dependent
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on a man to support me okay do you want like a traditionally masculine man kind of sounded like
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how do you define traditional masculine man well i mean do you do you want like a 21st century kind
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of like metro feminine guy or do you want like a you know strong masculine man who's like the leader
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in the relationship like what kind of guy do you want what are the qualities of a traditional
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masculine man like break it down you tell me what kind of man i'll tell you what kind of man i want
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um i want somebody who um where there's like mutual support and whatever we feel like our purpose is
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on earth um i yes i think for me personally because i do want to have children i do want a man
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who if you know we decided to have children it wouldn't be like financially burdensome for us to
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have children and i get to choose like depending on how much money i'm making at the time depending
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whatever like what kind of man like what his finances are or whatever how much resources are what
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do you mean no sorry i get to choose the the kind of man i choose like i can look at who their
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finances and then choose according to that depending on my situation as well okay you know
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what i'm saying like yeah no it totally makes sense i mean yeah i'm hearing you know it sounds
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like you want things relatively equal in the relationship in in many ways in terms of the
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power dynamic and stuff and you also want equal power dynamics and a lot of equality throughout
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society correct i don't want i feel like women should feel empowered to make the choices that
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best serve them okay that's not an answer to my question earlier in the conversation you know
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we've been having this conversation in the context of equality in society and you're telling me that
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you want like understandably and equivalence in the power dynamic with the relationship you want
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to be making your money you want him to be making his you guys want to be able to mutually support
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one another correct um yes but if i do have a child i do want to have the option to not have to work
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okay so if you want all of this equality throughout society but also in your relationship
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why do you not want equality when it comes to splitting the bill um well how are you defining
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equality equality is quality when it comes to splitting the bill like i pay 50 you pay 50.
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uh again i don't think that equality means that you do the same thing i think it means that you bring
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equal value to the relationship or equal value to whatever the situation is wait can i say something
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so if it if that means you both bring equal value would that mean you would also pay rent like half the
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rent or would you expect your partner to pay like full rent groceries everything like that even if
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you're working at the same time um i haven't been in a situation where i i wouldn't go into a
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relationship where i i would expect my man to pay the rent and pay for all that stuff if i'm pregnant
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if i'm pregnant um i mean i think it just depends on your financial situation and who you are with but
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i'm not opposed to going 50 50 with rent like if we make like equal amounts of money or whatever i
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wouldn't be opposed to sharing i ideally wouldn't choose that i would ideally like to not have to
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work but we don't live in a society where like you can i mean you can't you can attract whoever
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you want whatever choose whatever you want but no that wouldn't be like i have to have that i'm not
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going to be with you if if but it depends on their energy it depends on their ambition you know if
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like their desire is to do that their desire is to provide to give me whatever he possibly can to
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take care of me to make me feel at ease that energy is more of what i'm looking for than like
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an actual number okay so let's say you meet a guy and he's like yo i want to provide for you i want
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to take care of you he's happy to pay for the bill on the first date and the subsequent dates and he's
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like this whole like you having a business thing and like going and working out in the world i don't
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really want you to do that but i am going to take care of you and you trust him and he wants to you
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to be like a stay-at-home mom would you be open to that i would ask why don't you want me to work
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well i can answer as as a guy who wants a wife who's a stay-at-home mom why would i want my wife
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out in the world working for some random guy when she could be home with me like i i have my own
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business you know like i want my woman with me cooking for me being there to support me to take care
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of me to hang out with that's something women are very very good at when they dedicate themselves
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to it why would i want my woman out there working at some corporation or whatever when she could be
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home with me why would i want her to do that yeah um well for me if i'm working some job just to make
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money then i totally get that argument because it's you're going if if a guy wanted to do that for
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you and he wanted to take care of you in that way would you be open to it i would say that um
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the reason that i do the work that i do is because it develops me as a human being and it makes me it
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is impossible to get a straight answer out of you i think you wouldn't be okay i like to do i like to
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do the work can i chime in go ahead because there's no way i will never not be pursuing my dream and
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career yeah like i it's not a job i'm an artist i have to sing i have to score 33 donated 100
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sorry for interrupting but this relates to the convo ladies would you rather be a boss babe woman
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who goes 50 50 in finances or be a trad wife slash zam who serves her family and husband also do you
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think you're deserving of a high value man we'll go around the table on that go ahead you want to be a
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stay-at-home mom or not you you said no do you believe you're deserving of a high value man
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hold on i don't understand the question he's saying do you want to be a boss what's s-a-h-m
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stay-at-home mom oh stay-at-home mom um i think that you answered the question already you you don't
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want to be a stay-at-home mom i will i would like to be a stay-at-home mom for a part of my life yes
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okay while you're pregnant do you believe you you're deserving of a high value man um
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yes okay and i get to deem whatever that is okay what about you not gonna stay home yes i'm
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deserving of yeah okay what about you i would definitely stay home and i definitely think
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i'm deserving of a high value man okay what about you i would totally stay home too i'd be cool doing
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that um what well what is defined as a high value man it's a good question i want to know that's a good
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question i mean it depends values in the eye of the beholder values in the eye of the beholder but
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like generally speaking you've got slobs in this world and then you've got dudes that are on top
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of their business that can provide and snap necks and cash checks i would say that's a high value man
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you know a man with confidence who can get things done then yes you think i definitely deserve a high
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value man um i would be a stay-at-home mom in a millisecond um and yes i believe that i am okay
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i don't want to be a stay-at-home mom and i think i'm deserving of a high value man okay
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sorry i didn't mean to press that go ahead i think it would depend on the man to be honest if they make
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twice as much as me then i would be a stay-at-home mom okay yeah how much you're you're a software
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engineer in seattle right i mean software engineers that's typically a very high-earning job so um i'll
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know if you're at liberty to you make six figures yeah okay 20 and you're 23 yes 23 so pretty good
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good job yeah software engineers make good money um so you need a guy to make what like 300k
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for you to be a stay-at-home mom yeah and i would i would i feel like i would be a good stay-at-home mom
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just that i want to be like comfortably living so if i i could stay at home and also do my work
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anyways so it really depends on the financial situation sure um yes i would i don't want to
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have children unless i have the option of staying home and um being with them i think children deserve
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their mom at home until like they're teenagers so yeah and i think i do deserve my value man okay
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miss lux thank you very much for the chat appreciate it i think you were about to i don't know if you
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recall your point you were about to come in on or you had come in on something you had more to add
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okay i think well i was saying you never want to give up your dreams yeah no way no way and the way
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you were talking about men oh my god i'm telling you sports donated 100 chase face it equality is
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whatever copy kiko says it is divorce attorneys will be the only winners in her future copy kiko men do not
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value your money we value your femininity bingo a man you will want will not want you
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apologies can you scoot into the table a little bit you're just getting caught up yeah before you go
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on i want to hear what you have to say but the point that he's making kind of touches on what that
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last super chat was pretty much every woman at this table just said that you all deserve a high value
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man high value men look for high value women high value women have femininity to offer man support
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help uh nietzsche said you know a man's happiness is i will a woman's happiness is he will right i've
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found that the healthiest relationships i've had in my life were when a woman looked at me as kind of
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like the hero in her life and she really admired me and looked up to me and my dreams and goals and
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vision were her dreams and goals and vision and when there's tension there uh it kind of you know
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it can tear at the relationship right high value men typically are very driven they're like they're
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they're focused they're confident they're on a mission in the world if you have your own mission
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that's fighting with his and there's conflict there like not a lot of high value men want that
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high value men want women in their lives that make their lives easier who they feel supported by
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so on and so forth but if you know if a woman's like no you know i i want to go work and i want
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to go do all these things and like you know you can go take care of your stuff but i'm going to go
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take care of my stuff like i think it's worth asking is the kind of man that you guys are looking for
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what if the dreams are aligned well then that's that's a different story if you guys have a mutual
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passion a shared passion the same vision and mission that's a different story you know then you guys
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can partner in that way yeah um someone i know a man named michael foster or no i think it was
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actually jordan peterson who said this he said that the best marriages can only have
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don't quote me on this this might not be jordan peterson but somebody recently said the best
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marriages only have one career under the household right when you have two careers two separate
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missions this can create conflict and typically the highest value men in society like they need
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a support system they need a partner you know and uh they don't have a lot of tolerance for women
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that aren't bringing that like raw supportive femininity to the table also men want to come home
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after a long day of work and just vent and the woman be there to be like the shoulder to cry on
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like hey how was your day at work and they should be comfortable enough to be like you know what work
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suck today yes and the woman should always be well not always but in a perfect relationship i guess they
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would be the man would be you know what this is what happened and the girl's like okay well what are
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we gonna do about it yes how are we gonna fix the problem not how are you gonna fix the problem so that
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way i can go and do this yes like it may i add something yeah yeah go ahead like as a man on a
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mission in life like the thing the thing about high performing men like there's our lives are
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stressful there's hard stuff hard problems that we have to figure out on a daily basis and as career
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woman i'm sure you guys understand the stresses that come with your career right i know that when i
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come home from work especially if i have kids if i've spent a hard day snapping necks and cashing
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checks i want to come home to my wife in the most feminine mood possible and i'm like like you said
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like i want to be able to come home and vent and her just be like come here baby let me take care of
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you but if you're in a position where you've had the stresses from your life and you come home and he
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comes home and you don't have that feminine energy to bring your man what is there for him to support
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him in the relationship and if you need that supportive energy from him like if you want a
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really high value man like you have to ask yourself are you going to be able to get the support that
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you're looking for from him is he going to need it from you will you be able to provide that to him
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if you can't provide that feminine energy to him what is it that you're offering him you know
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speak to that um and then i want to go back to you okay do you want to go first or um i feel like
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in response to that i get what you're saying and i think if we're asking for more in this way i
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understand that it gives and take i think relationships a really great relationship is
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give and take it's reading the room seeing what that partner needs at that time versus that partner
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because it shouldn't be one-sided where the man's always venting the women woman can never vent
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venting is just you know yeah so yeah and i get what you're saying and in a good relationship
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both people are going to be there to support one exactly and i feel like just because i'm saying i
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want to work and i have a passion doesn't mean i can't also be feminine and support my husband or
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whatever and the way you're taught and the thing is too i can't generalize for all women you can't
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generalize for all men everyone's very individual very unique very different blah blah blah but the way
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you're talking about high level men and being so driven about their career is exactly how i feel
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about my career and i like like that's my life that's everything to me that is my first love that's
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my passion and to have a partner that will respect that because i'll be able to respect him because i
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know the feeling so well and i know how it feels to be so passionate where you live eat and breathe the
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thing you do and it takes a lot to be extremely successful and so i will get it but yeah it's
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going to be a lot harder because that means there might we might there might need to be a babysitter
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there might need to be this that's why i feel like divorce rates are high because women are working in
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the workforce a lot more than they were years ago but at the same time you're talking about women in
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the 1800s being happier i mean that's a statistic based on there was no social media then it was very
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hard to be aware you only know what you know so they only knew what they knew then but now we're
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very aware and also it's funny how you say women were safer back in the day because they had men to
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protect them but a lot of those men were abusing them there was a law that was passed in the 90s
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that was about i'm not going to say the words were not allowed where it didn't allow men to just force
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sex upon their wife this is a real rule that was passed so they couldn't do that in the 90s
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and that's crazy to me because your man should be your protector should be the one who's there for
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you and so a lot of time women had to stay in marriages because they couldn't just get a house
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by themselves they needed the man to sign off they needed all this stuff and they a lot of the time
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were married to a man that wasn't even actually protecting them and actually abusing them so you
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keep saying a lot of the time and i understand what you're saying the points that you're making yeah
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and also i don't have statistics so it's like you know like when i hear these feminists are like
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they make sense and you don't have statistics either so it's like they they make i mean depends
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on what you want to talk about right i could whip out a lot of stats for you but like i hear these
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arguments from feminists but i feel like feminists paint the world prior to like the 1900s as this
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world where just all men were beating and raping no that's not it like like the idea hold on the idea
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that like a lot of men were doing this like my my question is how does it compare it to now like
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what like i would love to know those stats because was it more men that are doing it now to be honest
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i don't know the statistic but i think the thing i'm getting to is women are i think more comfortable
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and confident to speak up because they it's all about this is because they see other women doing it
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or feeling empowered or whichever you know like back then i didn't live in the 1800s i really don't
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know what was going on yeah i do want to address because i think you guys have mentioned this a
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couple times i mean there's been a lot of different talking points that have been brought up uh when it
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comes to physical safety the way that you feel has absolutely no bearing on anything related to the
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actual incidence rate of physical violence she's okay donated 99 red as driven as you are you will
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likely end up successful and inadvertently by so doing will also isolate yourself from many good men
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successful women also want equal quality men successful men want feminine women and don't care
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about her success so i can i just speak on that really quick 10 seconds i don't agree because i've met
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a lot of high value men who are very successful that want a woman who has passion and drive and
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focus as well let me ask you a question let me ask you a question on that i can ask the whole table
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yes or no do you think that men lie to get laid yes do you think men will tell you what you want to
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hear to get laid never go ahead please answer please yeah and i think there's a difference between
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passion driven and and what else did you say um well passion drive and something else but there's
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a difference between having that and having a full-time career like you know 40 hours a week and you're
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not going to ever be home or like be raising the kids or you know i think i think there's a difference
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you can have those qualities while still being like a feminine woman like you're saying yeah like
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i i'm a i consider myself very feminine like i'm you know especially my music i talk about very
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feminine perspective of being relationships whatever but i'm also speaking from a career
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that i'm assuming like we're artists so it's different our schedules are very different we are
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very artistic expressive we're creating it's just a whole other mindset in life so i'm only speaking from
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my creative career perspective and it's you know it's very so okay but to go back to the whole thing
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so you're saying that these really successful men are like super stoked on the fact that you're
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making money and have a career i would argue that from a pure practicality standpoint uh the more money
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a man makes the less he cares about the money that you bring for your career whereas a guy who you know
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the economic reality of today is most households are going to need two incomes so i would argue that
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actually the less money a guy makes that might be the type of guy who is more inclined to have
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some sort of care about the money you bring if he's looking long term into like okay i want a family
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the economic reality shit's fucked inflation all that stuff we're going to need two incomes
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um i think he might care but you you specifically mentioned like high earners and i would argue right
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high earners actually the more the money the more money a guy makes the less he
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fucking cares about how much money well i didn't talk about money i said specifically passion in
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your career and drive i didn't say financial anything so it's like i'm talking about and and
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you also said something about what if your dreams align and i feel like i'm meeting a lot of people
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who are in a similar career where the dream does align yes here's the crazy thing about like male
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and you might you guys have may have encountered this men in the entertainment industry especially like in
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music if they have maybe they're a little more established in their music career
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they probably want to fuck you and sleep with you and they're going to gas you up oh yeah you're such
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a great singer in an effort to bed you oh let me help you produce i mean i feel like that's pretty
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normal amongst can you tilt the microphone down yeah like yeah go ahead um kind of what you just asked
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everyone do you think men lie to sleep with you i think that's just a generic question so it's not
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even men in the industry i feel like men across the board might gas you up yeah like you kind of just
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but it's so it's like i don't really know what the point is it's like yes and that's kind of your
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choice and to whether you want to vet this guy out and figure out how really is or not because then you
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can make the argument like is there no one real who ever thinks highly of a woman ever like no there are
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real relationships and people who really respect women and what they do and care about unless you're
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saying there's no such thing and love's not real and relationships aren't real and everyone's in a
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lie like i don't think they're saying i think they're saying that the same men that will say they
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will sleep with you because of the same career choice or whatever is not the same type of man that's
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gonna eventually like end up marrying you because of the difference in what he wants versus like like
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like what a typical high value man wants right a woman that will stay home and support him
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is not going to typically want to marry somebody who has like a career with 40 hours a week not
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going to be home a lot so yes those men will sleep with you but a lot of i don't think it's like you're
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never going to find someone either i think you're a great person but i think they're just saying like
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a lot of more career driven men are going to want women with a little bit less of that and i i would just
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add that i think and it's evident men and women prioritize different things in terms of what we're
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looking for in a partner in terms of what we find attractive uh i think if you want to pursue a career
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that's fantastic for you but in terms of it making you more appealing or more attractive
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to a partner like most men it's it's very rare that it's ever going to add
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it it's not going to make you more attractive it might it's i it's almost always going to be a
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neutral or it's probably just going to in a lot of ways it's going to be a negative yeah 100 i feel
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like it depends on the guy it really does i know a lot of guys i'm going to be honest with you uh
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none of them care about a woman's career in terms of like her attractiveness i feel like there's a lot
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of high value men that are in relationships or married to women who have a career though
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yeah they're in relationships or married to the point brian's making is that it's
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for most honest men a career is not going to make a woman more attractive unless he like wants to be
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taken care of or like brian was saying if there needs to be some sort of like split income scenario
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where because you know it's it's expensive to live nowadays the traits you were describing before
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like ambition and drive and all that kind of stuff those can be very attractive qualities in a woman for
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certain men like i i personally like ambition and drive in a woman yeah not necessarily applied
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towards her career though but as inborn personality traits because like different guys like different
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types of women some guys i know they like like very feminine and soft women that like don't have
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kind of that like you know that edge to them like i like a woman with like a little bit of an edge to
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her because it's like there's there's a drive there and what i want to do the reason why i like that as a
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a man is because i'm like okay i have ambitions and i'm like how can i sync up your drive towards
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my mission so that we can really be effective as a couple one motorsports donated one hundred
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ready are you are an artist the divorce lawyers watching this are taking notes men don't like women
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who feel the need to be the center of attention all the time and that radiates from you like nuclear
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fire nuclear fire you're a gold digger 304 it's kind of a compliment just saying that your energy
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is like fire thank you thank you so much it's on brand for the redheadedness too wow okay does that
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does that make sense though like what i'm saying yeah but i think my main statement is like you just
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you can't speak for all men i can't speak for all women there are men who do want women with really
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dope careers and are ambitious because that means they will understand that much more maybe his career and
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they can align and they might be both doing the same thing they can go to work together they can do
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this they can take off when they have a video shoot versus vice versa like it could be helpful and i
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think that would go to her point about like having like shared dreams yes um but yeah generally speaking
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though it's not like most dudes out there aren't like yeah i want to find a woman with a sick career
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it's like that's not what most dudes care about at all yeah yeah go ahead um
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i mean i think the reason that a lot of my answers aren't yes and no is because a lot of
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answers aren't just a yes and no answer and so for this situation again i can't speak for all women
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whatever whatever and i do think that there is a point there to say like high earners the kind of
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like dream guy that all these girls are wanting yeah are they gonna give a fuck about you contributing
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to the household income no they have enough money for you exactly and for all the kids it doesn't matter
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that's not what i'm looking for that's not what a woman brings saint underscore easy donated 99
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being successful for yourself selfish doesn't lead to happiness you will be rich bored and depressed
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because you have no purpose in life i know this is true for men so it will be more so for women
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stay home and sing a song for your husband based thank you saint if you want to continue go ahead yeah
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yeah i guess what i have to do actually kind of has what i have to say has something to do with this
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um yeah i don't think they give a fuck because women do offer something different than our money
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for to a high value man a woman and her feminine offer something different to a masculine man yes which
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is what i personally want because i don't want to go 50 50 in life i want a man who's like i'll take
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care of you whatever whatever wait so you want a man who's like i'll take care of you whatever whatever
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you want a masculine man but you also want to live the boss babe lifestyle and to have total
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independence from him if you need it the lifestyle that i you're saying contradictory things here
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so what i was about to say um is that for me pursuing a career career let's just call it that
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it's more about me being the best version that i can be if i just stayed at home and didn't pursue
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music i didn't write songs i didn't make content i didn't try to build a life on my own i would be a
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shell of a human being and i wouldn't be able to offer my man the love the care the support i
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wouldn't have the energy i know this just for myself if i wake up and i don't do what i'm supposed to do
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here on earth which is to have interesting conversations with people is to make content is
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to sing to make music to perform all of those things i'm not pursuing just to make money i'm pursuing
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those things because it makes me feel whole and when i'm whole i can give to the men in my life
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with like more vigor i'm able to be there to support him i'm able because i feel good about myself when
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i do that can i tell you something sure i'm just gonna be totally honest like i don't think your
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purpose in life is to like sit around and have good conversations and to like make content all that
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kind of stuff now i'm not saying that you can't add value to society by doing those things
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but like i'm not looking for a woman whose sole purpose in life is to make content and have
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interesting conversations i want to get married and have a wife and build a family like i want a
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woman who wants those things and sees her purpose in life as being the mother of our kids a great wife
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and someone that i can build a super healthy and strong family with the kind of guy that you're looking
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for like most high performing dudes if they're looking for a wife they don't just want some
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chick who's making tiktoks all day they want a woman who wants to be the best homemaker and mom
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and wife that she can possibly be and i'm saying that i can be the best homemaker homemaker and wife
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that i can be when i know that i'm acting and doing the things that i'm meant to be doing and i know what
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i'm you know you can be the best mom and wife as long as you're making tiktoks all day
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it's not about making tiktoks all day it's doing what i'm meant to do it manifests through that
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we'll let this come in with a successful female physician whose husband stays at home
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the common complaint heard in the doctor's lounge is very frequently about her lazy husband
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men have accepted our plight of being successful slash ambitious women cannot say the same today
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oh that sounds like a black marriage thank you cam appreciate it you had something go ahead yeah so
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here's something or like a fear that i have like kind of you like brought it to mind is that
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as a woman if you give up all these things that could potentially keep her financially stable
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lots of friends things like that and if you have a man that you give those things up with
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and there's no guarantee that that man is going to stay because the second that that man leaves you
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you lose everything right if his friends are your friends because he doesn't whatever he's not okay
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with you hanging out with your friends then you lose your friends you lose uh like financial
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stability you lose everything if that man leaves you so it's like we risk everything that's what the
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purpose of marriage is yeah can i jump in i gotta clean this this is bugging me yeah i think you can
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jump yeah there's a lot to say about that marriage so
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do you actually have ocd uh a little bit yeah but um so marriage is actually what that security
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is for right when you get married and you get a prenup and stuff like that you're protecting yourself
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from that financial burden of you know if he does end up divorcing you you get half of what he earns
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and you know you have something to start yourself off with but i think like it's a false
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dichotomy nowadays to say that you can have a full career and a family at the same time because
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you know who's going to be raising your children like either way you would have to put that into
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a third party yeah that that would be the sacrifice the children would feel that sacrifice they're not
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going to have their parent and um yeah i kind of forgot the rest of my thought here we we we'll come
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back to this conversation i need to get a couple chats by the way guys some of these have totally fell
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off so i'm not going to be able to trigger them i have them it won't pop up i can still see them
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and read them but it's not able to be triggered so i'm going to just try to get through these chats
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after this i definitely want to get back to her question because it's oh yeah do you want to
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actually do it before the chat yeah let's do it for the chat to her point like i mean that's that's
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you know you're you're raising good questions and to her point that is the purpose of marriage the
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purpose of marriage modest hikima donated 100 the women has nothing to do with your job etc high
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ready welcome to kindergarten where we listen with our ears and think with our brains before
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we vomit up nonsensical bs are you on the top 10 charter and don't care then someday 2 l8
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okay here's what i'm going to do for the tts is i'm going to just pause i know i know in the
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description it says instant i'm not going to boost it i'm going to pause it for 30 minutes and then
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what i'll do is all the ones that come through all the ones that come through i'll trigger them all at
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the same time so sorry it's not going to be instant guys but it's just been too disruptive go ahead
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thank you yeah that's as i was saying that that is the purpose of marriage you know like if you're
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marrying somebody you're and if you take it seriously most people don't take it seriously
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nowadays like as a christian i take it extremely seriously the woman that i marry like that's it
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we're together for life and i'm making a promise to her i'm taking care of you for life like that's
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my job i'm not leaving you hanging you know a lot of people don't take that promise seriously for one
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and because a lot of people don't take that promise seriously that's why divorce laws exist
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right so like as a guy for example if hypothetically i married a woman and then cheated on her
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she would have every right to divorce me and take half of everything i have and that's why those
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divorce laws exist and alimony and all that kind of stuff like the purpose of it is to protect women
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like if you're a woman and you find a guy who's traditional and he's like hey i want to make you
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a stay-at-home mom give up your career we're going to have kids together if you spend 10 or 15 years
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not working on your career and then he just drops you like you're screwed financially you know and
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that's why divorce laws exist to protect women unfortunately because of feminism and all sorts of
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other stuff it's now to the point where men can get screwed for no reason with divorce but like
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that's that's the purpose of marriage like if you're making an agreement with the guy hey i'm
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going to give up my finances and all this stuff like there's it's a promise of protection yeah i
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think my problem is trust too like you know like that part and also you're dating somebody for a long
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period of time before you get married so what about that dating period i guess
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we can maybe pick this back up but i do need to get through a couple chat chats a b check thing for the
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20 gifted memberships again these i'm not going to be able to trigger them on the screen but i will
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be able to read them we have verbato microchimerism contact with semen through an orifice allows the
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chromosomes of a male to absorb into a woman present in the blood spinal fluid and brain permanently
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the ghosts of boyfriends past forever interact with a woman's neurology and then you sent a follow-up
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the chromosomes also interact with the fetus during gestation influencing its development for every
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past sexual partner a woman has they are cheating on their future husband with you can read more about
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it at the national center of biological information and this is called microchimerism i've heard about
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this yeah i've heard about that it's honestly like the sketchiest thing in the world it's basically the
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idea that like for every to put it crudely for every guy that a woman is with sexually if he's blowing
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loads inside of her he's actually leaving his dna in her body and then it like incorporates itself
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into her body and can also interact with the fetus so like if a woman's had a lot of past sexual
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partners there's evidence that her child may end up having dna from her previous partners what the
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bs i mean it's that is bs it might be real it might not be but there's believe it i i believe
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it's possible yeah why well i mean come on we'll have to see the studies yeah we'd have to look at
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the stuff we'd have to there's one i think there's one but it could be who knows okay if it's real it's
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sketch yeah i learned that like in a mother's womb her first child's dna is like always in there
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and like the second child so like if you're a fifth child you have the dna from all your siblings
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before so i think it could be true and so you're saying if a woman has there's a different father
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for the various children then another man's d child's dna is in your other kids that's crazy
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who knows who uh you're saying that it messes with her mentality right let's let's move let's move on
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that's not what i said uh derek the traitor again sorry guys that i'm not able to pull these up but i'm
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i'm gonna read them ranking the girls out of 10 when it comes to looks only okay wow 10 being the
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highest starting to left the chase 8 5 4 1 5 5 6 7 okay thank you i guess nika ever had a date
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appointment i think she means d appointments just before facing something important share your oh
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this is nika from uh two shows ago she's one of the stab she stabbed a dude okay podcast she's gonna
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come back on the show so podcast caesar pre-court rituals d appointment um ever had a date a d appointment
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just before facing something important have any of you ever had a d appointment before going to
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prison or jail or going to a criminal court proceeding involving you involving stabbing
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somebody involving terrorism no let's start over here no no no how about just no no this is
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these questions no no okay um here we go hold up all right we have i believe this is the next one
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doc vanabless three e's equality of value is inarguable equality of opportunity is desirable equality of
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outcome results in tyranny and is the guiding principles behind deadly cultural marxism fact it
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is an indictment of our education system that some ladies can't grasp it from donk vanabless it's
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facts yeah good comment that's i i never heard the the three e thing and i i've heard of like the
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equality of opportunity equality of outcome but equality of value i haven't heard that one but i
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absolutely agree very good comment what is it that you're agreeing with well his whole statement
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but i've never heard this three e's thing i've heard of equality of opportunity equality of outcome
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but equality of you're agreeing that equality of value is true or false true okay yeah
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i think it's equality of value in the sense of like your value in terms of your life you know yeah
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yeah uh let's see we have the saint and the sinner are we going to talk about how tiffany and maybe
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others have the archaic belief that black into oh my god that black individuals are less uh tiffany
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do you want to address this well i never said this guy's untrustworthy or capable i just said
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that is this the saint and the sinner go ahead sorry tiffany what did you say i said they're less safe
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less safe right are you basing this on personal experience or crime statistics
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crime statistics okay what crime statistics are you basing this on
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i guess just violence is this smart gun shooting is that 13 percent of the population is responsible for
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50 percent of the violent crime yeah yeah real i think it now it's 14 percent than 62 about a race
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and you're racist that's crazy what'd you say what'd you say like a statistic is racist yeah that's
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that's crazy yeah yeah uh i think this is marquette he's a youtuber um yo what's up man i'd like your
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stuff if you ever want to be on the show we'd love to have you on if that is actually uh the saint and
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the sinner mark his name's marquette uh yeah man would love to have you on uh shoot me a dm on
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instagram at whatever uh if you're down to come on what content does he make uh he does he he does
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some live shows like live podcasting and he talks about dating and how many how many followers or
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subscribers why i think he's got like i don't know there's like gold diggers and then there's follow
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diggers like tiffany yo wait marquette would you could i set you up with tiffany
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she hasn't heard his follow account yet brian i think it's over 100k so yeah all right and i think
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let me just double check make sure that was nika doc let me just double check make sure we got okay
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cool we're all caught up there and then we have this one super chat here on youtube win pc 99 girl on
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the far right oh she's gone okay i'll wait i'll wait for that um and then i wanted to pull up more
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of her videos but while we uh here while we wait for her to come back i have some pre-show notes from
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people so let me get into that uh let's start with you ali ali you said i don't really like hookup
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culture for myself but i had a big military phases when i was 20 to 22. i don't know if that was a
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typo when you said i had a big military did you mean ho phase um well military phase slash military
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ho phase yeah i guess you could say that um whoops so were you in the military no so basically what that
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means oh goodness so um i just spit it out just spit it out i did not know that this was gonna be
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wrong okay um so um i met this friend and she invited me to this bonfire and i was like sure why not and
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literally 99 of the people were military and at the time i was very like oh my gosh all of them are so
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attractive um so i wasn't really like a hoe i guess you could say i was very like i'd talk to a
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guy things would get serious and then stuff would happen and then kind of would just drop off like
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nothing would happen like after that it kind of just you guys know what i mean like yeah we just kind
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of just the feelings just disappeared uh and then on to the next one and on to the next one and then
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yeah how many uh how many of these military dudes were there oh goodness um
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i'd say probably like 10. is that we have that's about half a platoon i think that's half
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a platoon can you show us the platoon show us the platoon that's a platoon wait can you show us the
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other one is that navy or is that marine the other one i think it's a tap over okay no i was i was
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very navy it was a navy thing so like half of it's like front that's a platoon that's more than 10. that
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is a platoon okay are we brigade is that brigade battalion what are we talking here
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um i don't i don't i said 10 right yeah it was it was around there 10 what you hooked up with 10
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yeah multiply it by three and that's the real number okay um so you were not in the military i was not in
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the military no and did you say it was what branch of the military it was it was navy i had a very i'd
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see i don't know why all of a sudden they'd be like i'm in the i'm in the navy and i'd be like oh my
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gosh hi i'm ally i had a lot of growing up to do i am not the same person i was back then just want to
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let you guys know of course but how old are you what does it say like 20 to 22 i'm 25 now 20 20 to 22
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so you've grown out of your military phase i got my heart broken and then i was kind of just over
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it military then i kind of wanted the traditional standpoint and i kind of grew out of it i was
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delulu i was in my delulu land delulu land yeah i was very much in what's your tattoo say there
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they're oh goodness um so i'm obsessed with this rapper and it's the crazy kind um the crazy kind
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it's from g easy gerald that guy oh you don't know g easy i have no g easy his name is gerald
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he'll be like young gerald like no i don't really listen okay well it's in his song him and i and
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it's with halsey they dated a really long time ago i like that song is that i have no idea well
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wait so just clarification was it a squad section platoon company battalion regiment brigade division
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or court none of the above and it was 10 years since you memorized all that for the show yeah
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i go above and beyond i go above and beyond every show yeah it was and and back to what you said they
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told me what i wanted to hear and i was very naive if they were like oh yeah i really like you like
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i'm sure they probably had some feelings in the beginning but then once stuff happened it kind of
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just i want to i want to make a point oh okay it's not this isn't going to be offensive towards
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you or anything i just want to make a point and this is to brian's point earlier ladies men you have
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to be careful tells us in the bible to guard our hearts men will tell you what you want to hear in
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order to sleep with you you've got to write that down yeah men will tell men will tell you what what
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you want to hear yeah again i love bombing they love bombing love bombing figure out who it is that you
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are what it is that you like what it is that you want they'll tell you what you want to hear in
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order to sleep with you you got to be careful of this super common that's why i left the face
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how women get their hearts broken be careful out there one too many military men
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you have experience with that no i mean i i haven't dated one but i know how like promiscuous they are
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like i've had lots of them like hit me up like super young too like i'm 33 like it's all like 18 year
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olds and they're just there's there's always just so many they just they just want to fuck you know
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yeah so so going back to you my first love never really told anybody just one day i was at work
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and posted another girl and she ended up being pregnant to this day we never broke up we kind
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of stopped talking so um my first love was when i was like freshly 18 got my snapchat the first day he
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added me and we were together for a little over a year and you know we said like bye i love you
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whatever and i go to work and an hour later i'm getting my phone blown up like hey have you seen
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a snapchat hey have you seen a snapchat i go on a snapchat and it's some girl on the pregnancy test of
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positive and it was not me i have not talking to that man talk to talk to that's not english spoke
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thank you um i have not spoken to him ever since we never really broke up it kind of just
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i don't remember honestly i kind of block it out but it it was kind of it was like pretty
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traumatizing didn't you say you congratulated him nobody needs to um a couple months later i can't
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stop it that was years ago i was like 19 but yeah i did congratulate him he said thanks
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after that i did not talk to him okay i'll just trigger this
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yo zentians good to see you man child support loss of access to kids a marriage isn't just about you
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the amalgamation of the sacrificed freedom yields your legacy future yeah real women demurely show
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what they offer and quickly become wives well said man zentians based zentians thank you man very
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good to see you back in the chat man it's been a minute uh let's see and then last thing here with
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ally you said your most recent ex ghosted you and left a note on your bed breaking up with you because
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he didn't want to be the guy that broke up with you over text yeah this was the one that broke up
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with me in march um so oh modest he came a donated 100.50 again for a little bit i think chase misspoke
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earlier equality of outcome is extra help based on situation to get outcome affirmative action equality of
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opportunity is equal chance to compete best candidate gets outcome chase for aft act from
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3la didn't want tts sucked oh it's all good cool yeah um if i misspoke thanks for clarifying yeah i
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think you might have what did i say you you i think you said equality of outcome in place for equality of
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opportunity i think you meant to say equality of opportunity but whatever um do you have a quick thing
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about the the note on the bed yeah so um long story short um i was at work um he just kind of
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just stopped talking to me and i was just like did you bump your head like what's going on uh leave
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work early my friend picks me up takes me home uh i walk in not even realizing that all of his stuff is
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gone and i just so happen to be like just cleaning my bed like normal and all of a sudden i just feel like
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this like heavy note and it was the key to my room and then just a note basically saying like i'm
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sorry i don't want to be the guy to break up with you over text but like this is done that's insanely
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lame yeah and it was it was a very rough couple of months do not want to live that here let's let's
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pull up some of the more uh more of the videos then we'll get that super chat um i think we just watch
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all the videos maybe and then yeah go ahead going 50 50 with a man is not equal we live in a culture
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and a society that benefits men specifically when it comes to finances there's so much more
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opportunity and it's so much easier for a man than a woman women are at a huge disadvantage and even
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still women thrive in a man's world given the obstacles that women have to overcome that men have
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probably no idea that we even do paying for a date that he initiated is one hot and two the least
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he could do okay okay um quite a few things there so are you talking about the patriarchy
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in what well in that in that clip um you said it's a man's world i think yes you said it's easier for
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men women are disadvantaged and that women face obstacles so well one do you think that there's a
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patriarchy yes okay what does that mean um that men hold greater power than women how so how how do
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men hold greater power than women yeah um well in this video i was specifically talking about the
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working world i think in the working world it's like the structure of the workforce is built for like
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for men how so i mean like don't more women have college degrees are more women college educated
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yeah i think the rates are when it comes to getting college degrees college admission actually
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attending college i think it's like 60 40. wow that's a huge advantage that women have so how does the
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workforce benefit men more is it college education that we're talking about or is it earning power well
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since 1980 i'm not talking about college well just really quick on college since you brought it up
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ever since 1980 it might even i think it starts 1979 there have been more women going to college
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graduating from college getting college degrees so that's a four more than 40 year period so women
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who graduated college in 1980 are now basically reaching retirement age so we've had basically
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an entire a whole career span of women who in that time period were graduating at higher rates than
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men were from university cool yeah so how is the workforce more beneficial towards men you said earning
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power can you provide evidence yeah i think you know with a lot of the like more like standard uh like
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tried and true i'd suppose like high earning positions like men such as doctors lawyers um i don't know
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i'm kind of what's the percentage between men and women in those professions i don't know all of the
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stats like i'm i'm not here to bring you stats but do you think are there more do you guys have stats
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about the opposite like truly curious i'm i'm just i'm curious because you're making a claim but i'm
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wondering if you have a counterclaim i'm wondering if you have no well you made a claim and yeah in a
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court of law for example if you present a claim you have to provide evidence for it i'm not in a court of
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law no you're not chatting in a podcast you're having a conversation and i'm saying do you have any
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evidence for your claims um i mean i've read stuff before do i have it up right now no um i don't
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think we like need stats like yeah do we need stuff no well i'm saying like if you just walk into a
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hospital who are you going to see primarily as nurses and women right so women are outperforming
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men it's i don't have stats either but like nowadays he's right outperforming as in college
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and getting education to where they can get a job like that they're outperforming men nowadays like but
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i mean relating it back to your original thing you want men to pay for the first date so i i feel
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like you cannot on one hand demand first off women are paid equally that's already been uh legislated
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back in the the i think that was in the 60s so it's actually uh if you as a woman can prove
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in a court of law that there are men with the exact same uh seniority in your company if you
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can prove and show that he's getting paid more for the exact same work you can actually bring a lawsuit
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for discrimination so we've already legislated that legislated that it's illegal to pay women
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less than men for the same work so i mean she's she's 23 and making six figures why why don't other
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women do that um because they're not interested in studying that oh so that's not a choice that's
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a choice yeah because also at the same time you know if you wanted if you wanted to become a welder
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you could go learn it and within a year and a half two years you could be making six figures why
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don't more women do that where's the disadvantage well i think the thing is with with with that
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is that feminists when it comes to equal opportunity and equal pay you only want to secure the cushy
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comfortable high-paying air-conditioned office jobs you don't want equality when it comes to
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for example dangerous jobs that happen to pay well or just physically laborious jobs like
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i think we should ask someone with experience like would you say have you ever experienced more
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obstacles getting to your career or like men being given more benefits in the workplace than you
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um for me i i don't think so but um i i don't have that much experience i guess i just started
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working like a year or yeah year ago but i also know that at least in my company we just we recently
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have this like internship program and it's only like females in tech program so i feel like we're
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trying to get our females in here so i don't think it would be unfair now if there was something else
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like some sort of male only opportunity that would be feminists would be screaming at their top of
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their lungs how um so you're making the claim that women are disadvantaged in the workforce and that
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they uh don't have the same earning opportunities that men do this is a breakdown of many of the blue
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collar jobs throughout society on my phone right here this is a breakdown of many of the blue collar
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jobs throughout society with uh how what percentage of each of those jobs are worked by men will you go
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ahead and read the first 10 statistics off of this please just read them uh into your microphone
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roofer 90 logger 93 veteran 90 plumber 97 mechanic 92 carpenter 92 coal miner 94 firefighter
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firefighter 95 iron worker 92 so those are like well-paying decent paying blue collar jobs that are
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completely yeah you don't want any of those jobs but you could have any of those jobs as a woman
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uh why i mean i i just i don't understand it's like i'm hearing like hey you know with us women
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are disadvantaged but you just told me i don't want any of those well-paying jobs is it disadvantage
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or is it that you just don't want the job no feminism can only exist when there's air-conditioned
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comfortable office jobs that don't require physically laborious work so true
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it's not true computer science it's true women don't want women don't again you're speaking on
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behalf of people that you aren't are you know what i mean it's like men don't men this like i'm not
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a man okay so she just said she doesn't want any of these jobs well that's her you know what i mean
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like there are some women that i'm sure have those jobs you can't generalize a whole gender there are
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some well okay for for example plumbers three percent of women are plumbers or three percent of plumbers are
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women yeah sure they're not 100 for a reason so women do have the opportunity equal opportunity
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to pursue every one of those jobs so i don't think we have an inequality at any point i mean
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if you want to talk about value like inequality and value i don't think it's the same but i think that
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the question that you need to ask yourself when it comes to the wage gap this career stuff it's not
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whether it's not whether it exists but why it exists and at least my view is the answer is not
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sexism there's many reasons i think for the earnings gap and i would say a big one is women's
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own choices women choose to go into certain careers certain fields same with like what they
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study in university women choose to go into disciplines that happen to pay less so which is
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okay can you give like an example of what like that specific women choosing not to go yeah choosing
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a career that pays less like what do you give an example i guess okay so who here wants to be an
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iron worker i i have we have some infographics on it but like who who wants to be an iron worker or
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welder at this who would be interested in making six figures doing those jobs i would but it's a little
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dangerous it's it's quite dangerous it's quite dangerous would you want to do that no would you want
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to do that no would you want to do that i might if the check is right okay so yeah you're making
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six figures you might be one of that like part of the five percent most women wouldn't want to do
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that and so it's like okay you have these blue collar jobs that i don't know what iron working
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pays but like welding for example it's a it's a dangerous job but it's not because of sexism that
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women aren't making the same money in those careers it's because you guys just don't want them i think
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that the disadvantage is um partly because like being a woman i mean again there's a variety of
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women but maybe like a good like chunk of us like we're not made to do those things like i know that
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i'm not supposed to do any of those things like so in a way i guess i technically can do those things
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but i'm not made for those kinds of work so because i'm kind of made for different kinds of work
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i'm like technically as i can but i'm not going to make that kind of a money so that kind of money
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so if a man asked me out on a date and his biology is more built to have a higher earning job
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then when we go on a date i would just expect him to take care of the date because i'm not made
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for those kinds of jobs and feminine excuse me feminism says women can do everything a man can
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do and they can do it better i you're telling me as a self self-professed feminist i'm not made to
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do those are we able to pull up the definition of i think feminism has many there's many different
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there's many different kinds but if you look it up i'm curious of what the main one comes up as
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yeah i don't agree with that kind of feminism i will say that's that's fine that's fair and
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you know we can debate the the definition of feminism but to go back to one of the original
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points that you made you said that doctors and lawyers men get paid more in those industries and i
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would agree with what you're saying that you are not made for the same type of work that men are
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i would say our natures are different as human beings like i as a man i'm geared towards different
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work than a woman is yes that's not a bad thing no it is not it is going to create inequality though
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because for example you know you mentioned lawyers there's a there's many more high paid lawyers
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that are men than there are women i'm sure part of that is because if you want to become a highly
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paid lawyer as a woman like you're going to have to freaking grind your butt off through your 20s
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and your 30s yeah i'm not meant to do that exactly and so but that and that proves my point the
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difference isn't because it's a man's world and it's sexism that's disadvantaging women it's
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because you don't want to work through your 20s and 30s grinding at a hundred hour per week job as
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a lawyer so it's not sexism that creates the disparity it's women just don't want to do it
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but i have a question like does that make sense what's your question go ahead uh i i was wondering
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like why you or any other woman i guess uh don't really go to computer science more often because
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i feel like as a tech job we well i sit at the office if i well if i go to the office and we have
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ac and it's like all comfortable and stuff and we also make good money so why don't you do that i wish
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i wish my brain was built like that i just am not like that personally and i do think that more
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women can do things like that you know have and i think that it's typically thought of as a male
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job and a lot of girls just maybe aren't really thinking about that maybe they think about being
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a homemaker or a therapist or whatever um but yeah i think that there should be or not should but
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there's a lot of opportunity there for women i think most women most feminists would rather just
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complain about the wage gap than actually take jobs they don't want when you said like um just now
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about how if a woman wants to be like a really high paying like on top of her game lawyer she's
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gonna have to really bust her ass but do you do you think she has to bust her ass more than a man who
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has the same desire or the equal amount she might have to bust her butt why do you think because i mean
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law for example well i'll use my own career as an example so i've been doing brand consulting with a
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company and uh one of our chief executive officers is a female and in her industry she's like she works
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in finance basically drafts uh financial agreements pitches super high powered like billionaires
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regularly right she's the only woman that does it in her industry there's maybe like one or two others
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that are at the at the level that she's at and it's not because of sexism it's because she has to bring
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really strong masculine energy to the table and people will take her seriously when she does it
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like she's a professional ball buster she's a badass but she has an energy that's much more aggressive
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than most men have and because of that men take her seriously i know maybe two women that could bring
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that same energy to the table yeah and be taken seriously by men yeah and it's because it's just
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like women are they're typically not wired in that way whereas so it's something like law like
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it's not necessarily because of sexism that there's not as many uh high performing female lawyers it's
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like it's a very aggressive job for sure it's a super aggressive job but i do think what you just said
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does support the feminist argument that a woman does have to be a little bit more stepped into her
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masculinity in order to be respected why can't she be feminine but also a lawyer and still have her
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word be respected you know like i can say something in a way the idea that's maybe like more sweet but
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like they're gonna be like oh my god this like girl it's it's not meant to be feminine they're meant to
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be cut right but like i but i naturally am just a feminine talking girl so why do i have to put on
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more of like a masculine character in order to be respected though and that's the feminist argument is
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like i should be able to be mean and have the same knowledge and education as you and be able to speak
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the way i'm speaking without having to be an absolute like vicious beast about it in order
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to get my word across it's i hear what you're saying it's not the result of sexism for example
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for me doing business like i have to aggressively negotiate with people when i'm doing business
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for sure and if i wanted to just like approach it from like a soft lackadaisical perspective yeah
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that's not good nobody would take me seriously and it's not it has nothing to do with my sex it's just
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the energy that you're bringing to the table like but i do if i'm looking at a lawyer let me put it
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like this if i'm if i'm looking for a lawyer let's say we have two people one's a man one's a woman
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the man is kind of like a feminine and soft and he's not particularly aggressive the female is a
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total ball buster and she's very aggressive i'm gonna hire her most likely rather than a soft
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effeminate man because she's gonna do the job better she's masculine energy she's masculine energy but
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again you're speaking from your perspective and i think there are some people in the world that no
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matter what they might still look at the woman especially depending on how she looks or even
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she'll have to maybe even be more self-conscious of what she's wearing just to even extra be taken
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more seriously like especially when you look at women in politics when you look at female lawyers
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and in order to be respected like you're saying like they really are super tough they have to you
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know be it's a tough world yeah it is for sure and i definitely but i also agree right like a man
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being kind of wishy-washy like you don't want that either you want a man who's also very firm and just
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equally speaking his mind in that way but i do feel like because a woman is a woman i feel like they're
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like you said earlier like a couple minutes ago you said she might have to work harder than a man yeah
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she might have she might have to work against her nature i mean let me let me ask you this let's say
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you're going into a big lawsuit over some music stuff maybe somebody stole your music you have
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to sue somebody for five hundred thousand dollars you got two people one's an aggressive man the
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other is a soft feminine soft-spoken woman who's not particularly aggressive you need to hire a lawyer
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which of those two individuals are you going to hire definitely the aggressor exactly for sure
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that's not a result of sexism it's just because you want the person who's going to get the job done
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best right and that has nothing to do with sexism for sure but i do think women do have to put
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on somewhat more of a hat in order to do that you have to defy your own nature um and just like
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and define social norms and like stereotypical things feminism says we need to change we need
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to change that we need to change the fact that women need to adopt a different nature to succeed
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that's what feminism says i don't think that but i do think there is an initial assumption a lot of
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people in the world make if they see one person versus another just sure yeah every everybody
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everybody comes to conclusions because i do agree like in order to be a lawyer you do have to be
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very tough you have to be speaking with very strong will obviously you want that but at the
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same time there are a lot of people that regardless of the woman still doing that they're
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still going to view her a certain way it's just you know human nature but it's like yeah it's not
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nature yeah it's not like mean or like um like you're discriminating against somebody it's just
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like you said you're working against your nature so you're working harder to make yourself more
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respected but like if you get a police officer and he's acting all feminine and just like oh no one's
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gonna respect someone like that or like a lawyer if you walk into a courtroom and they're just kind
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of oh going around being all feminine like you're gonna lose and you know you're gonna lose that trial
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like but i'm saying like for a woman who's not acting like that though but like there are
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those people we know yeah but to act cutthroat and aggressive and strong like that is a masculine
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trait so to be feminine and to do that you're going against your biology and you're taking on more
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masculine traits i think she's saying even with a woman who has that masculine energy some people
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still won't take her seriously and yeah you're not wrong i mean there's just natural biological sexism
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that exists between both sexes for sure i'm gonna let a couple of these chats come through
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got a couple notifications coming we have carla catherine giller rains we donated 99
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this new generation of women are ruining our chances with real traditional man which are
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becoming a dying breed oh christ is lord i wish more men think like chase
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christ is lord amen also thank you for the compliment carla thank you appreciate it carla we have another
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one coming in here here in just a second just a second we got a great moment grid one motorsports
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yeah these these are going to linger okay we got trevor brown thank you for the membership man
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grid one motorsports thank you sir one hundred dollars cheek copy kiko do you think before you speak
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can a man sell pictures of his thumb peron of and pull six digits a month it's true can a man walk into
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human resources department and get hired simply because he is a man affirmative action you do not
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know the answer please learn oh oh oh okay grid one motorsports all right can i say something there's
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another okay make it you guys do you know the lumberjack on instagram that makes like millions of
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dollars yeah just the guy who just smashes i love that exactly and he's like super famous just from
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cutting wood based off of his physique and he doesn't make millions of dollars does he come on
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the show i invited you know what i'm talking about the guy who like tat who's got the sleeve and he yeah
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yeah he cuts wood uh leo i'll pull that up again in a sec donated 99 dollars yo thank you cam
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this is a man's world as it was built by men the competition in the world also makes a man's success
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very difficult so that man buying you that nobu is also a champion amongst men yeah that's why he is so
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successful men pay their dues do you on the right yeah but who gave birth to you and why can't you
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say women don't pay their dues and women can't work as i'm so confused as to why we can't also
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be working hard for a career donated 101 when cs grad stats are 85 men 15 women and the workforce
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reflects this as 60 40 you are statistically hiring less qualified women basic math ask jackie she was
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wrecked to take stats if all women did stem maybe would be problem reality is they don't
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men and women pursue different things and have different interests bro is he saying is he saying
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that 85 percent of grads are men and 15 are women but having aggression as a man is not conducive to
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roles like being a grade school teacher nurse caretaker etc this is also why employers are more inclined to
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hire women for these roles over men men are often discriminated against for these is it discrimination for a
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woman to prefer a female ob-gyn or like a female to do her brazilian wax well what a guy would a guy
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want a girl to do his oh i think oh i think it's valid his check would you rather have a guy or a
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girl do that check my junk check your i'm like i'm um are you talking about like a prostate prostate
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yeah would you want a guy or a girl to check your prostate be honest i just prefer not to get my
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honest but just be honest what do you i mean isn't it isn't it don't they just put i don't
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care personally i'm just gonna get it done i don't care honestly i don't think i would care
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i wouldn't care i mean if she was super hot i'd be like all right we have leo here boomers had
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second wave feminism don't need a man gen x had it in their whole lives millennials got third wave
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men are evil slash source of my problems at a young age how on earth could you think society
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favors men only men 70 to 80 plus lived during a patriarchy word yeah i would i would on that note
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i would actually argue that we live in an often female dominated world like almost all of my teachers
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growing up were women and man did they make sure all the boys stayed in line then throughout high
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school almost all of my teachers were female and then in college i would say probably 70 of my
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teachers were female like it's not exactly what i would call a patriarchy it is interesting well
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that's your specific experience because i don't know what the again statistically that is because
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i had an opposite experience most of your teachers growing up were men from junior high on mine were men
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interesting i mean i had i had almost all male teachers in junior high and it was freaking awesome
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and that doesn't mean just because your teachers are a certain gender mean the whole world is
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female dominated because of that one workforce are paid like yeah i was just thinking that they
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paid horribly and there's always teacher strikes and i know none of none of those women want to go
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do the tough blue collar jobs there's just sexism you know they're so disadvantaged all right we have
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winpc99 girl on the far right if you believe in equality what is more equal than splitting the bill on a date
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is that to me yeah oh my god this honestly this question is boring but um again like i said women
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don't don't it's not the money that i bring to a relationship that's valuable and if he asked a
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woman on a date but but weren't and i don't know if it was more so you youtube channel so it's not
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that much better than i'm giving you a hard time okay um i would say youtube though just to i mean just
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no youtube is more profitable for sure it's not even about profitable i think it's more uh
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uh there's a greater degree of uh effort that typically goes into a youtube video oh for sure
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for sure uh in any case i was thinking about that earlier i was thinking to myself about the fact
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that you have worked so hard to set up this entire facility and like build this channel and do
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everything and there's so few women in comparison that are building really successful youtube channels
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like this why is that is it because of sexism or women just don't what are the stats on that i feel
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like there are a lot of youtube channels that are right yeah there are a lot of youtube channels
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that are run and podcast run by women but when i'm thinking about like successful podcasts and
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youtube channels there's a lot by by large the majority of the ones that i see going viral across
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the internet are typically run by men maybe that's maybe that's maybe that's just my algorithm though
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i feel like it's pretty even for my i see tons of successful women on youtube because that's my
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algorithm do i think it's harder for women to be successful as a youtuber
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than a man okay unrelated to dating i'm just sorry i don't cut that off okay jackie mentioned
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females in tech internship at her company does this mean i can have a males in tech internship and that
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is all fine and dandy or is that somehow sexism and the reverse is not um well i don't think you can
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have males in tech internship just just because our company is like i don't know if you go to the
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elevator there's like eight guys and two girls but i personally i think that's also unfair so
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okay you think it'd be unfair wait you think it's unfair that there's eight guys and two girls no i
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think it's unfair that there is only females and i think it should just be like both genders
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okay i think a lot of women just don't want the job well i think they're trying to push more women
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into it though because like you're saying like we want if we want equality that means we do want
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women to be more in jobs like you're saying that are higher paying and so things like females in tech
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or whatever it was called is their way i think of trying to get more women into the field so that can
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happen yeah it's basic affirmative action um go ahead are you finished yeah go ahead go ahead i'm like
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this is like a genuine like curious i'm like just genuinely like wondering this and like wondering
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what everybody's viewpoint of this is um because obviously like i see i i understand what you guys
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are saying and like we have different perspectives and i think we need your perspective like and you
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need our perspective honestly like we need each other to like really get to the truth because you i might
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have an extreme view to you and you have an extreme view to me but we need each other because the truth
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is probably somewhere in the middle in my opinion that's i mean that's a uh fallacious argument but
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in my opinion um and so i guess i'm just wondering because i do see like the lawyer and the doctor
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agreement and like the whole like jobs are more aggressive that's why i don't want them because i
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don't want to be in my masculine i want to be in my feminine and i do i am drawn to more positions
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that tap into my feminine but i guess i kind of wonder if the structure of law from the beginning
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had more feminine energy it was more balanced it wasn't so aggressive would there be more space for
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women and is that what women are fighting for not to be in a man's world but to make the nature of the
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job more feminine somehow i don't know of the job more feminine yeah because the way that it is right
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now for a job to be more feminine so for instance let's just take business as like sure just general
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business what is the primary goal of business to make money okay so for instance like for me
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when i was like oh to have a business i have to network oh i have to do marketing i have to do
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sales like all that stuff i'm like it sounds like i have to be all aggressive and i don't
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really want to be in that vibe but when i re when i um realign my thinking of what um marketing is i'm
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like oh marketing for me can be me being deeply myself and sharing who i am and then when i think about
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sales sales is just solving people's problems right and so for me i don't like thinking about
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it sales but if i think about it as empathy if i think about it as oh you have a problem that i
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know how to solve and like i'm empathetic towards you that's feminine that's a feminine energy
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when i think about it like that i'm more drawn to sales i'm more drawn to networking if networking
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is building a community of people who support me if i think about it in a more feminine way
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i'm more drawn to business like that i'm not i'm just saying is there space for feminine energy
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in a masculine world when in the masculine workforce no and why why is that the case
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a resounding i mean that's your opinion so i mean look i'm not trying to be disrespectful or
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anything for sure this is a discussion it goes back to what i said like 30 minutes ago
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the feminist perspective seeks to restructure reality itself restructure what is at this moment
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what has been and will always be how do we know what will always be i mean just you can
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look at the pattern of the last five thousand six thousand years we've changed though no uh yeah we
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have and a lot of those changes have been bad here's the thing let me allow me to answer your question
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okay yeah law can we restructure the structure of law in order to make it more feminine
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what are two lawyers doing in a court of law two lawyers fighting against one another what are they
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doing um trying to prove their client innocent well let's only linger on this because i feel like
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we've already dedicated nearly an hour and a half on this let's try to i'm gonna wrap it up quick
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business law medicine all of the sales for example these are industries where you have to
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win you have to win it's not about like like teaching for example i had female teachers that
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were very good with empathizing with the students that's an important just built into the structure
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of the job that feminine energy is important law you are working to win for your client business you
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are working to win sales yes empathy is important but salesmen the most successful salesmen are the
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most aggressive at the job they're working hard at it like they're i know a lot of salesmen they work
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freaking hard at their jobs that's not one where you're just like feeling and like you know just in
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your feminine energy it's like you have to work hard and follow up and like constantly follow up
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in order to hit your goals and your quotas and so on and so forth these are it's it's masculine energy
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and the world is a competitive place and in order to succeed in a competitive world you have to bring
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the masculine energy to the table it will always be like that so why do you think that um like feminine
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jobs aren't highly paid is it just because it's not like as needed of a skill like i'm just
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there's supermodels that make like millions of dollars there's singers dancers that make millions
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of dollars like it's you're talking about very masculine jobs that are male dominated because
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you have to bring masculine energy well it's also it's also a question of scale too like a software
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engineer for example you can create a product that has scale that can reach thousands hundreds of
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thousands millions of people so there's more opportunity to make money whereas if you're like
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a nurse or a caregiver there's only so many patients for example that you can see in a day
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so you can't really scale that and also human beings you know you were talking about hormones
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before you know as a woman like you have especially at different parts of your cycle you have feminine
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energy that you feel you know human beings are wired temperamentally on a biological level to be
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drawn towards certain things one of the reasons why stem is a male dominated field is because a lot
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of women just aren't interested in it we're never going to change that it's it's just it's the nature
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of reality you can't change the nature of reality does that make sense yeah that makes sense we we have
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two more videos from you but we'll maybe get into them a little bit later on in the show because i i
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want to uh try to bring in a few of the other people here at the table we have jacqueline here jacqueline
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in your bio it says you are the real sleeping beauty what huh what does that mean i just love
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sleeping you like sleeping yeah i see okay it's in your instagram bio so i was just curious yeah you
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say uh so you're a 33 year old teacher from san diego you just broke up with your boyfriend who was
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eight years younger than you yeah uh and look and you're looking to just talk about my crazy past with
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dating as i always pick the worst guys yeah um and so you were in a relationship if i recall you said
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four was this the four-year one that ended two weeks ago yeah uh so you were you 30 and he was 21
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when you guys met 22 he was 22 and you were 30 yeah okay gotcha um and how did you meet him online
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dating app um yeah craigslist exactly no it was um a live stream app a live stream oh megaly what is
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that no it's called meet me huh meet me meet me yeah and you can live stream and get oh so were you
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live streaming and he messaged you or you messaged yeah what were you live streaming just my day oh okay
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yeah cool all right what was his message to you i can't remember i i think he was like your baby
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he asked for my snapchat and i said i don't have a snapchat i said if you want to get a hold of me
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my instagram and was he in san diego instagram yeah okay yeah he's in selfie these women man they
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talk to guys that immediately asked for the snap right off the bat and then they're like why doesn't
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it work out yeah four years later why didn't work out uh you said okay so on on again off again
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relationship you said he was cheating and ghosted you multiple times yeah ghosted you
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yeah yeah so when so the times when he would break up with me he would do it in like such a
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like savage disgusting way like he would just like stop talking to me like cut all communication like
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nothing like he wouldn't tell me anything like he would break up with you and then just stop talking
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to you or he would just yeah or he would get mad and just like cut communication isn't that like the
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best route like when you break up somebody that you should not talk to them i want to know answers
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like what's no you don't deserve you don't deserve closure yeah you don't deserve closure exactly no
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no and like whether you're a man or woman if you want out of a relationship
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you can you don't need to provide justification for in my view i mean i think you should have a
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proper breakup yeah yeah just send it down yeah but also have you ever been ghosted do you know how that
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feels and you're okay with just ghosting somebody it sucks but then what are you gonna do yeah i
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totally disagree if you've been married for 10 years just text totally disagree i want i'm divorcing
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you babe just send me a text i'm i'm i'm being a bit facetious but um no but i mean like would he
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break up with you in person or how would never like okay never it would he would just get mad about
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something and then just like stop like cut all communications off like probably go bang a couple
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chicks and then just kidding just kidding no for sure that's that's i'm almost positive that's what
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happened right i don't know for sure i'm positive right and so then he would whatever miss me this
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that and then come back and then like wait so okay he's a younger guy right have you always dated younger
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guys or since i've gotten older yeah i don't know so at some point it switched or like i was the older
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one and they were younger when was that when did that because i got older i don't know like when i
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was younger it was like older guys and now what is that the biggest age gap the eight year one or have
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you had bigger no i would say that's yeah absolutely that's the biggest okay yeah yeah um and i don't
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think there's anything wrong with with that with with age gaps in adult relationships yeah um it although
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it does seem to me typically women are far more likely to date older men so that's a bit unique
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um so okay you met him on a live streaming thing yeah were you fine were you guys living together
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no okay no were you financially supporting him given that you were perhaps a bit more established
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in your career you were older than him or you know 50 50. nah not at all like it was definitely
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you know i i noticed like at the very beginning of us talking that he would do some like things like
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he'd be like oh you're gonna buy me dinner right and i was just like i let it slide a couple times and
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then finally i was like this is not some kind of like sugar mama type shit like this is not gonna
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go on like you know and then after i like was assertive like he stopped doing it like he didn't
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do it anymore so then when we got more comfortable with each other then it was much more like you buy
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something it got became normal because we both had bought things for each other so many times
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if you were dating a 30 year old guy would you expect him to like if you went on a date would you
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expect him to pay for stuff if he asked me on a date yes okay we should okay well i don't want to
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look we'll come back to the whole who pays thing but um okay so he was would you consider him a leech
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kind of no not a leech not a leech okay selfish oh selfish selfish but he didn't yeah okay you also
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wrote here you dated a romeo pimp one time without realizing yo what is a romeo pimp okay so a romeo
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pimp is a type of pimp that when they type of pimp yeah i know this is all new to me too so when i
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learned but it's like a type of guy who he like love bombs girls so that they fall in love with him
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and then from that point he manipulates them to go out and have sex and make money i did not do that
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oh make that very clear okay i did not do that did he probably yeah he did i i didn't know that
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he was a pimp at all and it's a really long story of how i even like did he wear a fuzzy hat no that's
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so funny i was like that's how i envisioned pimps but like i'm from san diego and like san diego is
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just was it a white guy he was middle eastern oh yeah so he's a legit pimp he went to jail for four
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years when he was 18 for pimping and pandering and so he while he was dating you did he were
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you aware of like other like he had a roster of women he was pimping out no so i met him after he
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had gotten out of jail and i met him through a mutual friend who was living with me did you know
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he had been in jail i didn't know he had been in jail how recently i didn't know what for how
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recently after he got out of jail did you start dating him i'm not 100 sure i want to say it was
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like maybe six months it wasn't very long you said you didn't know it never occurred to you to ask why
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he was in jail i figured it was drugs i you know what i almost want to say because this was a while
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ago i almost want to say like they said it was drugs like they didn't say it was pimping and pandering
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like his friends did not tell me nor did he tell me it was pimping and pandering like they had said
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something different i don't know a hundred percent sure what it was if it was i can't remember to be
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honest but it was not what how that how long were you dating him oh my god like like it's so disgusting
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like maybe like a month yeah it was so bad like question so at what point in that month that you
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were dating him did you find out that he was was you're saying he used to be a pimp or even when he
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was dating you i don't know i don't well he tried to turn you as turn you out yeah he would like
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manipulate and like make suggestions like oh if you got a boob job you know you could make a lot
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of money stripping like that and so like i saw these things and i was just like like what the
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fuck you know and then finally i had another friend that's a huge dude i think it's hilarious he went
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to jail for pimping and gets out immediately starts trying yeah yeah and like it was just like a really
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creepy relationship like he wanted me to like stay like i could not talk to any guys like my head would
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have to be down like he wanted me to stay in the room when he left and like all the stuff and i just was
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not about it like i was like was he trying to isolate you from like people in your life hell
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yeah yeah that's yikes yeah why did you decide to date someone who went to jail in the first place
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um it's a great question yeah that is a really good question i don't know that stuff doesn't
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necessarily bother me i guess like uh doesn't strike you as like a red flag it should it should
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have right um looking like hindsight but um yeah you know if somebody has like a criminal record but
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they're like doing something better for themselves like i said i choose horrible guys like horrible
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we'll get into that we'll get into that i have some notes here um wait so remind me what point in the
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one month relationship did you find out that he was a pimp like very close to when it ended i said i want
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to say like it was like a week before like shit shit like hit the fan like my friend ended up like
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dragging him out of my bed like beating his ass like it was a whole thing your male friend or female
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friend male friend like what did he do i don't know they had like a fight or something and then
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he like that was my friend who was living with me at the time so they had a fight and so we were
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literally asleep in my room and he came into my room ripped him out of bed beat his ass and threw
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all his stuff out and like pretty much gave me the rundown of like everything that was going on what
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he was doing and after that i was like thank you and what was he doing f you just talking to a bunch
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of girls trying to pimp again you know trying to like you know live that life was your friend trying to
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save you from him basically i think he had gotten into a fight with him about something like non-related
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and it just fit the narrative for him i don't think he like went out of his way to like be like a hero
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or anything i'm not gonna give him that credit but it worked in my advantage okay yeah yeah huh why do
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you why do you pick such bad guys i don't know what's your relationship like with your dad oh it's
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really good now um it was a little bit rough growing up but i have a really positive good relationship
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with my dad i have for the past 10 years so but growing up it was a little rocky yeah but now
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good so okay i dated this guy he was in jail um you said you'd like to talk about how hard it is to
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date in this day and age uh how um i think um one of you guys had mentioned it it's just like with
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social media it's like everything is it's just it's so hard because you just have constant temptation
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like you have constant like you can hit up a girl on their dms and you can do this and it's just
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constant temptation all the time oh so are you saying that it's a it's a man thing no like the
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men have to the men have to hold on the men have temptation and the women are totally innocent not
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at all social media not at all dynamic okay not at all i mean there's lots of temptation for women
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too i mean there's lots of guys that will dm you i mean i probably weigh so more than men depending
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on what guy you know what kind of guy you are sure but i just think there's so easy now like it's so
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easy to like not value the person you're in because you think you deserve someone better or
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you're looking at this girl and why doesn't just like comparison it's just so like mental
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fuck you know and so it just makes things a lot more difficult i think but you don't have to do
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social media that's true or you could also like how would i meet people then if i didn't do social
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media i love your go out and hang out with people i know it's so wholesome yeah yeah i don't know
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wait so are you saying social media is a bad thing or a good thing
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i think both i think both i think there's a lot of good things that come from social social media
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like you know creativity um like stuff like this like i i watch youtube all the time like every day
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you know just like dating wise dating wise definitely i think it's bad i think it's toxic and bad
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that's how you meet people yeah it's the only way i meet people because she wants to stay home yeah
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i'm a homebody though i'm a homebody i don't really go out i don't really i don't drink i don't go out
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like i'm a complete homebody like i want to like i want to stay in all the time did you used to be
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that way like did you used to like in your younger years crazy when i was super young like 17 16 18 but
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like i've been a homebody for a long time which is why i don't really meet people like the normal way
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it's like i have to meet people like a homebody i'm a homebody there you go yeah all right you said
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that uh it makes you feel pretty hopeless and actually finding someone that you'll marry and
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have kids with yeah so late in the game when you say so late in the game do you mean because you're
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33 is that what you're talking about and um and you mentioned that the relationship that you were in
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it was a four-year on again off again relationship it ended two weeks ago and this person was
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uh eight years your junior is that correct yeah do you think that being in an on again off again
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situationship you consider it a situationship correct it was definitely a relationship oh
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relationship yeah um with someone eight years your junior who i mean clearly you aren't going to get
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stability and commitment from right especially for the past four years when this is a pretty critical
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time period for finding husband um do you think that maybe i mean you're he was 21 when you were
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30 22 yeah or 22 yeah i mean do you think most 22 year old men are like ready to get married and
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yeah i mean i wasn't married or ready to have kids at that moment in my life either yeah i don't
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probably i think on average that's around like 29 i think or is it 27 the average age of
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marriage for women i think or maybe it was just like with him particular i just didn't see that or
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i wasn't like but you spent some pretty critical years there dating yeah a man eight years or junior
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not that i have anything against age gaps but i suspect most 22 year old men are not really
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looking to get married and have kids and whatnot yeah by the way the tts is our can you pull that last
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tts back up i want to just maybe get through some of this stuff but i'll relevant dude here i'll sure
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let me let me take a look uh let's see one sec guys one sec okay here we go why don't we pull it up
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greg neck donated 99 dollars oh this shows that woman choose the absolute biggest deadbeats and
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afterwards say all men are the same and most single mothers chose these people and wonder why they don't
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pay child support also chase thanks for being a reason for my way back to christ stoked to hear
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that bro greg neck thank you man appreciate it uh it's i would say that that super chat touches on
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the point you're making pretty well you're saying you want one thing which is you want to find a
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husband and you know someone to have kids with correct yeah you want to find a good man you've
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expressed you know a fear of like ending up with a deadbeat that's just going to leave you hanging
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right yeah definitely why are you messing around with these 21 year old dudes and these dudes that
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are just out of jail yeah okay so let's the guy who's just out of jail we're just not gonna count
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him well we can no we count him yes we're gonna count that was a very quick mistake but um with him i
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don't know because like people will ask me they'll be like do you think that the age gap had anything to
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do with you guys like breaking up and like it didn't it wasn't the age gap it was just literally
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like asking about why you guys would break up if you want to find a solid dude why are you dudeing
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why are you dating these non-solid dudes i i pick the worst guys why don't you start picking good
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guys if you want to get married you can't keep playing this game forever if you want to be a
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wife and a mother do you want kids yeah yeah so all right some chad comes along he's like 22 he's
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like what's up girl and he's trying to smash are you gonna date him are you gonna be like no i'm
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looking for a husband yeah no i'm not gonna date i'm not gonna make that mistake again because like
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you said i think it's like a critical time period if i did want to have children and like i do want
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children but like i made that face because like my sister has two children right now she's three
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years older than me and every time like it's like oh they're a lot of work but it's like i hope one
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day that i do um but yeah i do definitely need to think it's worth like reevaluating your dating
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strategy to like optimize for the kind of guy you're looking for for sure like whoever i allow like
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into my space because it's not like it's like like i have like options it's like i'm just choosing
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the wrong guy because i think that's what i'm attracted to which is an issue because i think
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you're attracted to the wrong kind of guy i'm definitely attracted to like the wrong kind of
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stuff for sure what what is that just like bad boys um i know it's so i know it's so typical
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we should go around the table on this oh who here likes and is attracted to bad boys
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one oh come on come on come on bad boys it's yeah i've never been attracted to bad boys oh okay
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that's good all right no bad boys come on there's been one or two glass one or two there's been on
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and off relationship i mean one or two bad boys um but i wouldn't like from a first glance like i feel
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like they're not that though like they're not like the typical stereotype you know what i mean like i feel
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like not fresh out of jail it's not attractive and that's why it ends because i don't like it okay
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bad boys yeah this is weird but i tend to like guys that were and are now like like a reformed
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a reformed bad guy bad boy yeah yeah you know they were bad they've been through a lot of
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shit and came out on the other side different person i don't know i like that no i i'm not
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surprised by it at all that psychology completely makes sense you like the bad boys i just want to fix
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them and then once and then once i figure out that i can't i'm like peace out sorry it's not working
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out okay bad boys no no no i like guys that treat me well so wholesome
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no i think it's immature okay you got to fix this bad boy habit yes i do it's not well
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i'm like what we should watch that um if you don't if you don't fix this you're gonna like
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screw up your window of opportunity yeah can i give you can i give you just one one piece of
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advice please do i'm listening i don't know the one you said if he asks for your snapchat
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stop it there and then i just give them my number no if he no no don't go out with that guy if he
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asks for your snapchat at all i agree with that fully look look let me let me break it down for
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you okay dudes that ask for snapchats to use a a common term nowadays dudes that ask for snapchats
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are fuck boys okay i'm blowing a lot of dudes games out there right now extremely immature ones
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like you'd be a little more clever at least yeah i mean smart fuck boy if you're gonna be a fuck
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it's like this if a guy's asking for your snapchat he wants no record or trace of your guys messages he
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also probably wants nudes and he's not he's making it clear right off the bat he has no
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serious intentions for the relationship girl asks for his snap she's a she's like 15 to the
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fucking streets she does if a girl asks for my snapchat i'm like yo how many freaking dudes are you
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hooking up with to be honest what's she trying to hide yeah why exactly why can't the message be
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permanent son yeah yeah would you apply the same um ideas to in uh instagram or like any social media
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no instagram is different so the thing about instagram i mean if you're trying to find like
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a partner through instagram there's stuff you can do you know first off you're going to attract what
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you are so if you're posting booty pics all over the place and like thirst traps and stuff like that
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you're going to get guys that just want to smash those are the dudes that are that are going to be
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sliding in two dms right if a woman's posting like tasteful conservative modest images of herself
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where she's showcasing her beauty but not like her body she's going to attract a different caliber of
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guy and it also comes down to what is the dm that he sends you yeah you know like read read the energy
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is he just trying to smash or is he like genuinely curious in who you are as a person yeah because if
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guys are if guys are trying to smash right off the bat like it's probably not a dude that's serious
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about a long-term relationship with you yeah not necessarily you can smash pretty early on and
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still want a long-term relationship i think a lot i'm i think ruining brian's game right now but like
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like a long-term relationships i've had some long fantastic long-term relationships out of five
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year or two year nine months you can hook up on the first second or third date just saying just
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saying yes and marriages will still come from that but what what i was the point that i'm making is
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you're a woman who's looking for marriage right you're a woman who's looking for marriage if you're
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if you have guys sliding into your instagram dms and they're trying to smash right off the bat the
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percentage of them that are actually trying to have a marriage with you are probably going to be
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quite low because a lot of bad boys nowadays know they can slide into a girl's dms and smash how do you
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know the difference between who is a bad boy and who is just faking it you want to know the real
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answer yes i do if you refuse to have sex with him right off the bat then you'll know real quick
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whether or not he's a bad boy how long i don't know that's a whole well i mean if you're trying
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to optimize for marriage just don't have sex with him until your wedding night no no no no
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then good luck yeah good luck yeah you know but i mean seriously if you hold out for like a month or
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a couple of months like if you don't want to wait for marriage and you hold out for you know three
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four five six seven eight dates whatever you tell them hey i don't want to have sex right off the bat
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like the guys that are actually serious about you for you are going to be willing to wait i have a
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fear that if you make a man wait he will cheat on you i mean then well then you don't want them
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yeah yeah but i have one of the issues i have with this whole like waiting thing that ought to have
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look it's it's a difficult position i think it ought to have been your standard the entire time though
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you spent your 20s fucking around racking up maybe you didn't but if you spent your 20s
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just jumping from dick to dick to dick and then you hit your 30s okay now i've got to find a husband
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and now you're gonna make this guy who's deserving of marriage you're gonna make this guy wait it just
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like at least from my point of view i feel like that guy's a sucker so i but it's a damned i do empathize
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with women on this because on one hand it's like well i'm not going to advocate for you to just
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continue perpetually throughout life just running like letting men run through you but also it's
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like as a guy like i don't know chase how you'd feel about this let's say a woman that you encounter
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and perhaps you wouldn't even date a woman like this to begin with but you found out that she had
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30 previous sexual partners and i know that's too high for you and that's pretty high body count i i
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reckon uh she all those guys she slept with them the first night but then for you we're waiting till
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marriage to have sex on one hand it's good that you're ceasing your promiscuity but also it's like
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i don't know it just like yeah it doesn't sit right with me it's gonna be a tough pill to swallow
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for a guy for sure i mean it's like hey you let all these other guys hit right off the bat but you're
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gonna make me wait because you want to try and lock me down like that's that's gone wait there's a
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meme about this nick can you find the flower cuck meme there's a meme about this no it's you're
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gonna have to google it um so it is also like the thing it is also kind of a female mating strategy
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like a lot of women hit their 30s and they slept with a bunch of dudes they slept with a bunch of
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dudes in their 20s but then they're like hey like i want to settle down now and yeah like that's going
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to be a tough pill for a lot of guys to swallow but like again it's like
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you've got the way i see it you've got two options you can either keep screwing around
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with guys that aren't serious about you and then find yourself in your mid to late 30s
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with fewer options which a lot of women do and then they end up unhappy and on antidepressants
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drinking wine with their cats for the rest of their lives you don't you don't want that outcome
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don't talk about my aunt like that show it to me on on this monitor it's like that's that's one
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you don't you don't need to that's a risk minimize just or actually maybe you do i don't know the
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other path is no it's not that it's be wiser it's that one but how you're going about this you know
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like the idea look the ideal outcome here especially for marriage in general you want to find a guy who
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doesn't want you just for your body and doesn't want you just for sex but who loves you for you
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you know and the thing about the edge when you introduce sex into an equation it complicates
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everything right like the way i approach it it's like okay if a woman tells me hey i want to wait
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until marriage i'm like if i really love her like i'm not saying i'm going to want to sleep with her
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beforehand but if i really love her i'm going to be like yo like that i share that value like i want
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to do that you know and it's not going to be a problem for me like i really love her it's like yes
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let's do that you know but if a guy doesn't really love you for you he's not going to be content with
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that you know and i'm not saying that you have to save yourself for marriage i would advocate you
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i would advocate that i know brian disagrees but like removing sex from the equation the point that
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i'm making is it's going to filter all of the guys that just want to use you you have to filter all of
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the guys that just want to use you yeah is my point and you haven't been filtering them and for your
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goals getting married having a family you need to start filtering out all the bad boys that just want
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to use you yeah she's not attracted to those guys though i can't be no i am i'm not i'm not not
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attracted maybe you need to find what she's talking about the reformed bad boy exactly are there is
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that a thing is it a thing is there reformed bad boys it should be there has to be i've seen them
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yeah bad boys used to be bad boys and other good boys yeah there's this term called
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hebristophilia it's basically uh let me let me just look it up really quick hold on
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yeah i mean i i know reformed bad boys like i know dudes with like 100 plus body counts that
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became christians and then they're like yo like i'm saving it for marriage now so hebristophilia is
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the phenomenon of an individual being sexually aroused by a criminal offender and this is much
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more documented in women than in men uh real i think uh there is a non-negligible cohort of women
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who i would say perhaps not to the extreme of say being attracted to and pursuing a man who's like
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a serial killer or even a criminal uh but they've done studies on this and a much larger non-negligible
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portion of women cohort of women find dark triad personality traits attractive narcissist narcissism
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machiavellianism and psycho psychopathy um you ever seen the stats on the most common types of uh
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pornography that women look up uh no oh man it's crazy i think the five most common themes that women
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look up in in pornography are uh werewolves what yeah werewolves pirates surgeons billionaires
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i can't remember what the last is this for i don't know if it's for for prawn or if it's for
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like romance novels that's for pornography werewolf porn huh yeah those are the most those are the most
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those are the most common google searches also like ladies jordan peterson's talked about it like
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women just sending like a bunch of like serial killers letters yeah that comes into play
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that's crazy uh emily we have actually let me just trigger these uh yeah nah nah nah here let me
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trigger these really quick and then i'll i have a couple more yo adam thank you man appreciate it
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to donated 99 all i'm hearing is you ladies aren't willing to do the difficult jobs that pay a decent
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wage that isn't discrimination that isn't sexism that's lack of effort lack of will to provide
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i don't break my back because i love doing it it's done for my gal oh there's a good video it's a great
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comment there's uh two videos right there's the kid video and then the uh working we'll react to those
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clips later um and then we have doc van adlis here microchimerism is real it has been well studied in
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women with autoimmune disorders dna from free fetus crosses the placenta also can acquire dna via
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blood transfusions however dna from sperm donors that's news i'm trying to find that data from
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doc van adlis thank you very much man appreciate it we have emily here let's see so you were on the
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show you've been on the show twice um have you gotten any dms from guys like sliding into the dms yeah
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a lot how many um well they filter out of my requests up if i don't respond to them but i'd
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say like probably more than like 30 or maybe 20 to 30 okay that's not that's not too much crazy but have
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you responded to anyone i responded to one because it was really nice and the way he wrote it i was just
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like oh like i gotta respond to that he was really respectful what'd he say um he was just saying gave
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me a lot of compliments said i was respectable and um brought up a few of the points i said last time
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just said that i was bringing like common sense and do a lot of things sure you wrote in one of
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your pre-show notes modern dating scares you because of how many people just want to have meaning
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meaningless casual sex and not actually connect have you ever had casual sex
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in high school yeah oh okay all right uh you said i wish dating was how it used to be seen in old
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movies with traditional gentlemen who will court a lady and take her out on lots of dates and hold
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the door etc uh ladies here at the table do you agree with that do you wish that dating was how it used
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to be traditional old movies think of the no hours holding the door wait doesn't i haven't seen the
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movie but doesn't this motherfucker like build this chick a house that's some simp that is simp as
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fuck that's awesome don't build a fucking house for some chick what doesn't he die does he die for
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her or something no no no he takes care of her until old age he built dementia this guy built her a
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fucking house even the blue shutters yeah everything bro that's so i haven't seen the movie so i don't
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know it's actually quite romantic bro but imagine like but come on modern times like building a house
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oh let me that's like the let me build you dog if she's if she's the woman of your dreams and like
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it makes her whole world like what's wrong with that man and you and you lock her down like what's
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wrong with that i think with today's housing like if someone could build you a house then yeah i'd sign
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up for that any day especially if it's like a man i'm gonna marry you can build my house i could
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say in the future yeah my man built this house like that's such a flex but dudes are watching right
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now taking notes and they're like yo i need to figure out how to build a house for emily
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uh but okay so you said you wish dating was how it used to be seen in old movies traditional
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gentlemen court lady etc etc um just around the table do you agree with that um i'm somewhere in
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the middle oh okay all right i like courting yeah sure uh definitely courting yeah that would be lovely
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if that happened yeah yeah i think it could still exist if you've picked the right guy
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emily emily why don't you explain what is modern dating like emily explain it go ahead
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it's so modern dating here into the mic please i'd say i think a lot of a few of the ladies here um
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oh loose pussy energy wow here i'm gonna pause it wow didn't know chase it what oh
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sorry oh trying to get saved she want to get saved you can't save her a slurred feminist on the right
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fell get used to being alone with your cats abdul you know what to do get the rocks hashtag your shirt
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sucks get the rocks all right abdul i'm a fire back get the rocks i'm a fire back because he's calling
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me a simp and captain save a hoe look bro you can call me whatever you want to call me the reality is
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there's millions of women out there liking making the same kind of mistakes that she's making and it
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bums me out to see anyone uh spend the rest of their lives alone and unhappy i don't want that to
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happen to her if she keeps messing around with bad boys for the rest of her life and i would like
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hopefully some other woman out there to learn from these mistakes and correct course dude because
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these freaking wine ants living with their cats on antidepressants are ruining our society dude these
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are all the women that are voting for hillary and railing against the patriarchy and doing all
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this kind of stuff we need less of this okay i need i want to stop this
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thank you shots fired okay um emily what's what's like traditional dating okay so i'd say traditional
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dating is um wait did she ask what modern or traditional was modern dating and it's like yeah
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women are expected to pay 50 50 like she said or take on like a a little bit of more of a leadership
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role in the relationship like planning dates um what you don't think like the the woman should should
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follow in her man's lead like i feel like a lot of that i was agreeing with you but oh you are okay
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well not about the paying thing not about the pain brian doesn't like paying right right
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brian doesn't want to pay he doesn't want to build any houses he wants to the dms and have
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her come over with zero financial investment that's beautiful that's great cheapest approach
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possible boom modern solutions to modern problems like go ahead in other in other societies like
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not western culture and other cultures men were like required to show like bank statements and
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financial like bank accounts just to prove that they could like financially provide for a woman like
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no that's true like that's honestly that's honestly based yeah and a lot of cultures men were
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literally required to show like this is how much money i have this is my taxes i can provide for
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you know what i was a dad let me say this i agree with that i agree with that i also you know in old
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in some of those societies where they had to show like bank statements or had to like show i don't
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know like probably had to be like bars of gold or some shit i don't fucking know also they would be
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like they had to look at the pussy and make sure the hymen was intact hello is that that actually
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happened but i feel like if you want that then shouldn't women be virgins there's no
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way to tell if a hymen intact is the result of losing your virginity actually that's you know
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that right that is true however i'm just saying i'm not saying it's right i'm just saying that's
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how it used to be son and also like but back then they didn't have a microscope to go up there and
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check if it was no you just you don't need a microscope to look at the fucking hymen you just
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look at it with your eyeballs you can see a hymen how did they i can see a hymen no here get on the
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table nuts bro what are you taking like tongs out yeah what do you mean you don't need to just
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spread in i don't know like i'm a fan deep in there the hymen's not deep in there it's literally
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by the cervix how do you think the hymen whoa am i teaching you female anatomy here the hymen's at the
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entrance of the vagina it's not at the cervix entrance the high wait are you actually teaching
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me anatomy is it really at the entrance it's not at the cervix i thought it was near the cervix no the
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cervix is at the very bottom like we need an obgyn to chime in like no the hymen is it no no no the
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hymen is at the just bro why am i teaching women female anatomy hello it's at the entrance of the
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vaginal canal no let's not how do i know this because i'm a researched i'm a learned man chase i
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know these things yeah brian's right like if you were hey i'll agree i'll agree with the idea that we
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need to go back to showing the father bars of gold for his virgin daughter i think that'd be sick
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like we should totally return to those traditions not saying that we need to take out calipers and
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check for hymens what do you think about that the whole gold bar hymen thing are you down for that
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no you're not down it's not feminism bro is it not down no for which part the gold bar part or the
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hymen part not the virginity the virginity thing okay okay we'll come back to that we'll come back
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uh okay so emily hold on all right you said that uh wait okay hold on so okay
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if that's what men were and are expected to do so be traditional gentlemen who will court a lady
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take her out on lots of dates hold the door get flowers provide etc what are women expected to do
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um yeah well you you create a home obviously if you're dating long term and you live with somebody
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so like but but let me ask you a question though let me try to clarify so women it seems to me that
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women demand men on the very early on in the relationship to adhere to these traditional gender
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roles but women say well that's because months or years down the fucking road maybe possibly i will have
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your kids and i will be the caretaker of the home i'm asking up front what are women expected to do
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because you can go on the first date with a guy and and expect him to pay for the first date
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and there's like how many first women are expected to do usually it's on sex like
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traditionally speaking no no no modern modern day so yeah no i'm but i'm asking from a traditional
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traditionally what are women expected to do well traditionally speaking there would not be a lot
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of time in between the the dating and then finally getting married it would be a more like a quicker
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kind of how quick i'd say traditionally lots of people and this still even happens in the south
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people get married like very early around like 21 22 like especially in the south where it's more
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traditional women and men will get married very early on and then the woman is already performing
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her role in the house so it's like more of a matter of how long are you going to date somebody
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before you're making but okay but we do also live in modern times so i guess my argument i'm trying
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to make is is that women even feminist women or modern women still demand and expect men to adhere to
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their traditional gender roles when it comes to protecting providing paying for first dates etc so again i'm
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asking if these are all things that men are expected to do early on in the relationship what are women
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expected to do oh i think that's particular to every man actually there'd be no not really because i
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feel like every man would well let's i'd rather let the women answer this like a lot of men would agree
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on what they would traditionally want her to give them but i feel like some men like he said he wants
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a woman to be there and be his entire support system so i feel like that's he could probably speak
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for a lot of men but but okay you've listed like i'm sure all the women here could list like a dozen
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things or a handful of things that you expect a guy to do fairly early on in a relationship so i'm
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asking what do you think men expect you to do or to bring early on in a relationship or the courtship
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process i would say good behavior probably well that's expected of both men and women
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hold on let's let the girls answer okay no no go ahead do you have more this is a great question
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you have more um no actually i want to hear what everybody else has okay here we'll actually here
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we'll go with you we'll go around then we'll end with you go ahead well i think it would be good
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to establish who does think courtship traditional courtship is cool you said you were like 50 50.
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no she wants men to pay for the first date so she's not 50 50. first date but are we also talking
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about courtship like traditional courtship or no well she wants i'm assuming you want that
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um like courtship is a very specific term yeah what is i don't know date let's i mean dating
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i think we're getting away from the okay for example in your video you say you want a guy to pay for
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the first date right okay so that's what you're expecting the guy to do what are women expected to do
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yeah um i would say that the beginning stages of a relationship both parties are signaling the
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value that they offer to each other so a man by paying for the first date is signaling provider
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energy so i think what the woman brings is signaling to a man that she can bring feminine energy so that's
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by not being overly masculine that's by being a nurturing presence that's by being interested in
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what he has it's getting to know his mission his values and seeing they if they align with hers
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and it's signaling to him like i will also allow you to be this masculine role in my life and that's
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also what i'm looking for um so that's what i would do and that's how i've found success people can do
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whatever they want um that's what i would say i bring to the table the question again is like what i bring
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to i feel like i completely agree like i feel like it's not what you bring it's like what what
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should be expected of you if you're expecting the man to take that masculine role and pay for the dates
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and quote you well here really quick just yes or no uh who should pay for the first date um i would
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i would like if the man paid for the first date the man who asked me yeah the man
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i'd like the man but be fine with 50 50. sure the man the man um the man unless i don't like him
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i think whoever asks should pay well for first date who who here has asked out a guy no and if you
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well and if you have if you had to break up the percentage more often than not who's asking here go ahead
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oh well are you asking if i passed yeah have you asked out of the guy no have you asked out of
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the guy yeah more often than not though who's asking who definitely guys are asking girls what
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percentage for you 90 percent the guy's asking maybe one time you asked yeah yeah one time she
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asked a guy out okay i have i'd say it's like 80 20 sure asking i will pitch the idea but then
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he'll ask so i'm not sure what that means but okay i've never asked never asked a guy out
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i have not huh i haven't emily no but so how can you sit there and in good faith say whoever asks
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should pay yet you know by your own admission that it's just almost i don't know if it's naive or just
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glossing over the fact that de facto we know that men have to take initiative and men are the askers
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well well no i that's you're assuming that i've never ever paid for a date before i feel like that
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no what we're talking about you said whoever i've never asked somebody i've never asked them on a
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date so yeah i'm saying if i asked a man on a date i would pay for it because i'm asking them to go
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out and spend time with but whoever asks should pay is it it ignores the fact that men are almost
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overwhelmingly being the initiators in the vast majority of heterosexual romantic relationships
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yeah i feel like if you want to take a woman out and you're asking to take her out you should pay for
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it right but saying whoever asks should pay ignores the fact that there is a burden on men to be the
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askers because we as men we can't just sit back and wait for women to come to us and ask us out on
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dates because it happens so infrequently yeah i guess it's specific to the situation like if you're
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already dating someone like i've already dated somebody and i was like hey you want to go get ice
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cream and then i paid for it because i asked them to go do it like i i suggested it they didn't
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it wasn't their idea it was something i wanted like that's where i've done that but i've never
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been went up to a man and say hey you want to go on a date with me so i don't know that experience
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i've never had to do that whoever saying whoever asks should pay you may as well just say men should
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pay because we know that women well yeah because women don't really ask men out on dates right so i
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wouldn't date a man who's not going to ask me out that's what i'm saying i'm not going to date a
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man that's not going to be confident to ask me out like i'm not going to right so there's
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there's never an opportunity something i'm gonna have to do is my point okay fine what's wrong with
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men paying for the first date yeah i have some thoughts on that i got some thoughts what's wrong
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with it brian well i and i interrupted myself to ask the who should pay question but we were
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going around on what is what is expected what are women expected to do so if we're talking about i
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think all of you said you'd like a return to dating as it used to be seen in old movies traditional
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gentlemen who will court a lady take her out on lots of dates hold the door buy flowers etc
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so if that's the expectation for men what are women expected to do i think we left off at you
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maybe or maybe it was you so this is like in the scheme of like the general scope of the relationship
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not like just the first date you mean i'd say early on early on i mean obviously you're getting to know
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the person right so i think just both of you are doing that yeah i mean but showing interest in him
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like both of you are doing that i mean you yeah you support the conversation maybe i do bring him
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something depending on time of year birthday i don't know occasion whatever like life life i don't know
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like i've given guys gifts you know what i mean it depends i'm not even necessarily talking
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uh something tangible like paying for a date or a gift or something but what about you god um i think
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she brings loyalty and bring that too but okay do they though i mean i don't know not as much as
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women i don't think they bring loyalty okay women bring loyalty on the first date are you loyal on the
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first date oh we're talking first date okay well what do women bring on a first date they make you feel
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good right you get giddy you get butterflies they make you feel good i mean that's goes both ways but
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okay yeah okay go ahead so we're talking first first date what first few dates early on in the relationship
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we're talking in a traditional sense right sure yeah okay
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i'm so sorry can you can you say one more time okay please don't make me repeat myself one more
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time so she said she wishes dating was how it used to be seen in old movies right traditional
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gentlemen who will court a lady take her out on lots of dates hold the door buy flowers etc a lot of
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you said i i agree with that that's how it ought to be that's how it should be maybe some of you have
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that expectation with the men that you're interested in dating so if that's what men are expected to do
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to pay for first dates hold the door be gentlemen be protectors be providers i'm asking you very
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simply what are women expected to do i would say or be honest be what be modest okay sure definitely
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modest um ladylike sure feminine okay gentle good yep just sure what about you um letting him lead the
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conversation i don't know i have me personally i just want like a guy to know that like i'm gonna
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take i'm gonna let him take the lead and just you know vent to me you know just sure
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um i guess just being feminine and looking good being feminine and looking good okay um yeah looking
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good and be a good listener and also i think you can kind of like hype the guy up to make him feel
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like they can protect you okay emily did you have more to add or yeah so um i agree with a lot of the
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things that um they said where you know gentleness femininity um all of those traits which um elevate a
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man's status so what you're actually doing as a woman going on a date with a man you are elevating his
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status you're signaling to other men that he is capable of providing and attracting a high value
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woman like that that is elevating his status to other men because it's it's a virtue signal that
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he can get this many women or this specific woman and keep her so yeah i think it's and it's always
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been this way a man back in the day seen with a very nice pretty girl on his arm was considered a
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good it was respectable and it brought him respect value and it's yeah it's like esteem if that's my
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girlfriend perhaps but i frankly if i'm meeting you at like a lounge for a drink or a coffee i don't
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give a fuck what anybody in the wait so you don't care what she looks like that's what i'm talking
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about that's not what i'm saying but no that i don't care about the other men in the bar and like
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oh look at me i've got a hot girl i hope these other guys notice me and think i'm super cool because
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i'm on a date with the hot what is it that you want i don't give a fuck what is it that you want so
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you're saying you would walk into a date with a woman dressed like let's say like someone off the street
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right she doesn't care about her it is the point though because you're signaling to other men
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hold on hold on brian's talking about behaviors that he's looking for in women okay so so brian what
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is it what what behaviors would you expect well the point i'm trying to make with this question
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is you listed all these things as how you want traditional treatment but i went around the entire
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table and a lot of the women here had difficulty articulating what given that the man would be doing
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all these traditional things you had difficulty articulating what your end of the bargain is
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what you're supposed to be bringing as a in the more traditional courtship let's say um you don't
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even know what you got to do on your end of the bargain and i see all this all the time on the show on
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dating apps women will talk endlessly about all the things they want in the guy from looks to
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personalities to money yet what are you bringing to the table to deserve that sort of thing and you need
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to ask yourself the reason i bring this up does the guy that you want want you you want that
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traditional treatment what are you moving through the world in such a way that is deserving of being
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able to secure that type of guy because if you want a man a good man who looks a certain way who's
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attractive has a certain status makes good money it's not about what you want it's about what does he
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want so what is it that you want brian well okay if you want like that i'm saying like if a lot of
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these a lot of women want the traditional treatment they want courtship they want guys to pay for first
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dates low body count the lower body count the better if you have a past of promiscuity
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how if you're for example i don't even want to go on a date with a girl that's entertaining another guy
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who's dating another guy who's sleeping with another guy so a lot of people and men do this too but if
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you're moving in such a way where you're sleeping with other men you have a guy that you're sleeping
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with and then you expect traditional treatment like not gonna happen i think i was agreeing with
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you because i'm saying like if if obviously if a woman looks like she is promiscuous and has a high
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body count that's not going to elevate your status that's what i'm saying being sure a high value woman is
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what you bring to the other side of the table sure let me make a couple points here because what we're
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talking about in this conversation it's like we're we're reaching to reclaim how things were in the
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past we're talking about this concept of courtship right courtship is a process that historically has
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been used to bring a man and a woman together under the guidance of the woman's father in order to
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preserve her chastity so that the two of them can get married right this is a process that's reserved for
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traditional women done by traditional men it's funny because like as i'm sitting here at this
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table it's it's evident to me like this is you guys want this traditional treatment like i think
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every every woman dreams of it you know you hear the story about the guy who built the woman the house
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in the notebook it's like wow that's so romantic that's so sweet right like that's that's like a
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traditional thing and i think all women in their hearts of hearts like they want a guy who's
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traditional like that who wants to pursue them and wants to love them would you guys agree with that
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yeah yes that behavior like historically yeah the agreement was a guy would pursue a woman like
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that in a courtship only those two people would be talking so if like if i was courting you for
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example the agreement would be you would not be talking to anybody else i would not be talking to
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anybody else courtship was also something was that was reserved typically for virgins right women were
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virgins throughout history we can rail about the patriarchy all we want but part of a father's job was
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to protect his daughter's chastity because there's a lot of bad men out there right like we we're
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dreaming of like reclaiming this thing from the past but it requires both men and women to actually
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do each of their roles which is to brian's point like it's traditionally speaking a woman's job to
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preserve her chastity and a woman who preserves her chastity is going to warrant that kind of
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traditional treatment from a man compared to you know if a woman's sleeping around with a bunch of
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different guys and then she's like no i want you to treat me traditionally he's going to look at her
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and be like well you weren't traditional up until now like why should i why should i roll out the red
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carpet when you just gave yourself so easily to all these other guys right that's like that's the
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mental conundrum that the guys have it makes it challenging for them the ideal i think is for both
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sexes to return to this tradition but it requires both men and women to fix their behavior and i think
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that starts with every single one of us yeah and to add to just the body count thing so in the same way
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women here wish for that return to tradition traditional courtship men paying for first
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dates men providing men being protectors men opening the door for you etc etc uh
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and most people wouldn't have any issue with you saying that if i as a guy say i wish women were still
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virgins or heck even had a sub five body count who are modest both in behavior and appearance not
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blasted in plastic surgery wanted to be submissive followed my lead were not quarrelsome who knew how
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to take care of the internal affairs of the household i would get looked at as whoa misogynist
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misogynist how dare you but that's the opposite side of the coin of the traditional demands that
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you want from men yep you're equating that to opening a car door flowers like flowers car door like
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paying for a ten dollar date like those are such like tiny simple things versus like what you're
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asking about a woman is like what's already been of her past so in your case matters though you
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i'm not not saying that but i'm asking like so in order to go on a date for you personally with a
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woman do you talk to her for a while and ask her about her body count before the date happens just
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so you make sure that you pay for someone who has only had less than five because she also can lie
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and she could never know so it's like i hope she wouldn't though no i should i hope she wouldn't
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lie because i think honesty is because you're basing your actions on the first date based off of who
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she is or what she's already done so it's like not a physical or like even a behavioral thing really
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it's like oh she can body count on body counts pretty behavioral but and but i'm saying like in that
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first date like like that stuff that she already had done regardless of that you know what i mean
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so it's like she can put a turtleneck on and say she's never been with anybody but it's like well i
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certainly hope that our first interaction is not predicated on deception and a lie but i'm just
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curious for you is that like your norm of like you usually like to talk to a woman and ask her those
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certain oh yeah i typically would i'll have a conversation with a woman beforehand i might not just
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outright be like how many dudes have you fought but i might try to ask some questions what's your
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relationship history that can sort of give me an inkling okay she's dated maybe this many guys that
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could be a slight indicator does she drink does she party does she go to bars nightclubs etc let me
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look at her instagram that could potentially be an indicator granted there's a lot of women who
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are very unassuming they might be a bit shy they might actually present modestly but secretly they have
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quite a past so it's not always a perfect indicator but we as men we will try to suss out these things
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through alternative means um but i'm also okay just outright asking so okay what's okay what's your
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body count i'll ask that's crazy that you put so much importance on body count like that's just so
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crazy to me why is it crazy because i just don't see why it matters like why does it matter what i mean
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like i can understand like if she cheated okay she cheated okay that's i get that sure how many
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people she chose to sleep with i don't understand how that is like relevant well so for for i'll answer
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that and there's a there's a ton of reasons why i think one of the probably one of the most important
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reasons at least for me is that when i'm dating a girl i want her even on the first date i want her
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undivided sexual and romantic attention if she's going out and dating other men sleeping with other men
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first off i don't even that's not a woman that i even want to pursue i want a woman to be properly
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single when i'm even first meeting her and i think a lot of people don't move that way um so body count
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your past is proxy for promiscuity promiscuity is proxy for there's a good chance that when i'm
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talking to her when i meet her she's got another guy in the picture there's another guy that she's
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sleeping with to me that's gross i don't want to i don't want to date you i don't want to kiss you i don't
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want to have i certainly don't want to have sex with a woman who's having sex with another man
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so is that complicated for you to understand or does that kind of no i totally understand but so
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somebody who has a high body count that can be a proxy for current promiscuity so if you have a
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high body count you could be sleeping there's a greater likelihood that you're sleeping with
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another guy while i'm talking to you i certainly don't want that also if you have a high body count
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greater likelihood of std and also you've you've started to the more sexual partners you have the
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greater difficulty it come when it comes to pair bonding with somebody if you've had 50 previous
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sexual partners and i'm number 51 i'm you're not going to view me in a particularly special way at
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least that's my view and i think we all both men and women want to be viewed as special to our
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potential romantic partners to our potential future husbands and wives if i'm number 51 i'm number 101
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like that's that's and the big thing also this is a differential between men and women so i could
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list a bunch of examples that i think apply to both men and women stds i think it's the case for both
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men and women you could certainly make arguments that um that the actual act of sexual intercourse the
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transmission rate might be different there might be a differential there perhaps women are more
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susceptible to getting an std than the reverse for various reasons due to anatomy but we don't need to
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get into that um the big difference though that does not exist in women that does exist in men
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and i would argue this is a evolutionary psychology basis biological basis is paternity uncertainty so
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men it's it's not even necessarily an intellectual thing a woman who is promiscuous
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you cannot guarantee the paternity of your child if she's promiscuous how are you gonna dna test well
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but that doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution so for example a woman who has
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10 husbands right if she sleeps with all of them who's the fucking father whereas a man who has 10
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wives you know who the father is in each of those instances so women can if you have a child you know
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with certainty that the child is yours obviously because of just the anatomical and biological reality
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that women are the ones who give birth but women we since we don't give birth we cannot with certainty
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know if the child is ours so one of the best ways to be certain of that is one if she's a virgin
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or two we know that she's not promiscuous and has a low body count i have a question sure um
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and do you want to respond to that or maybe you respond and then
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i i don't know i guess i'm just not i'm just i i i somewhat understand like what you're saying
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why are women attracted to tall men tall tall men why are women attracted to muscular men because they
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can protect them maybe this like i don't know okay like giving but is it okay sure right so in that
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same way men are attracted to women who are not promiscuous it's like uh it's ingrained in us
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it's going to further your bloodline really well because you mentioned you mentioned um
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well we have dna tests now but dna because just because we have this invention of of human brilliance
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doesn't undo again the fact that there's been hundreds of thousands of years of evolution it's
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ingrained in us as men and again this thing does not exist in women paternity there when it comes to
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the maternity i guess or whatever this it's impossible to exist in women because when you have
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a child you know with certainty that that that's your child but you could be hooking up with another
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dude we don't know that kid might not be ours so that so men have a more natural revulsion to
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female promiscuity than the reverse not to say that i think women are totally justified in taking issue
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and quarrel with male promiscuity however there's not that ingrained biological and evolutionary basis
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that exists that exists in men it's it's this simple let's say i'm talking to two women
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one of them has a zero body count the other has a body count of 50 which one of them do you think
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i'm going to feel more confident in her um being like which one do you think will inspire more
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confidence in her fidelity long term 50 i'm just kidding the virgin right exactly and it's just it's a
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natural immediate instinct right and it's it's it's really that simple it's like our biology our dna
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like it's it it hunts for that like purity and there is there is like a revulsion a revulsion
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towards that promiscuity because it is biologically very dangerous for a man to commit to a woman who
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might sleep with another man who he might end up raising the child of like it's thousands of years of
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like programming don't you think there's purity in a girl that is loyal to you regardless of body
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count like she's talking about like sexual purity yeah but i just mean like taking away body count
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let's say she has a lot of body count but she's loyal to you she's never slept with anyone but you
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since being with you isn't there purity in that too like why is it just like i wouldn't call that like
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purity i would call it loyalty but the question of why it matters is like for example okay so you could
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have a woman who has a 50 body count and she could be the most loyal woman in the world but a man is
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still going to want to know hey how did that happen like what what like if a guy cares about body count
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he's going to want to know how did that happen what happened there what compelled you to sleep with all
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these men like what was the pattern that unfolded what was it in your psychology like he's probably going
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to want to understand that if it's something that he cares about because ultimately at the end of the
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day it's like is this woman going to be loyal to me in the future like loyalty is extremely extremely
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important obviously to both sexes you know that's one aspect of it another aspect of it too is like
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like brian was talking about before us men are extremely territorial when it comes to women that
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we're really into like if a guy doesn't really care about a woman that much like he might not care if
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she's seeing other guys but if a guy really likes a woman and he really loves her he's not going to want
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to share her with other men in the present or in the past you know it's like it's it's a sex is a
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very sacred thing you know especially from a man towards a woman and obviously no woman wants a guy
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who's going to cheat on her but it's it's it's different like for us men it's a very territorial
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thing like that's your woman like you don't want another man touching her and you know her past can
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affect that who do you think cheats more men or women i think on average it's men why do you
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think it's i saw a stat the other day i think it was like divorce statistics and how many of those
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divorces are filed because of adultery and i think the statistic was like 34 it was the women woman
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cheating and 38 was the men man cheating i think it was slightly higher for much of a difference what
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was your question though you asked why do you think that is yeah well i think you know it's bio i mean
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biologically speaking men like we have a biological drive to spread our seed as far as possible it's
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just part of our nature that doesn't mean it has to dominate us but like it's just part of our nature
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you know a lot of guys like you know guys will i know guys who have cheated on their girlfriends and
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they typically just cheat because they feel an impulsive physical desire and that's like that's really
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like it's hard to describe what it's like being a guy but like you know when you've got testicles
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like your body's like yo we've got loads we got to deliver like get them out you know yeah uh it's
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it's different like women are kind of wired more emotionally towards sex whereas guys are much more
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like physical like i need to get this out of my system and i think that's why guys more often cheat
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like cheating for women is like it's sex in general for women is typically a very emotional
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process like if you imagine you guys would agree like if you don't feel an emotional connection with
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a guy you're probably not going to want to sleep with him would you agree with that yeah yeah it's not
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the same for men oftentimes you know guys will just have sex with a woman i'm going to try to uh
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blast through some of these chats here that are going to come in and um hold on that one thing
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oh really quick on the body count thing you mentioned like why does the past matter
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um i mean i would argue i mean you certainly a woman who used to a woman who used to be promiscuous
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and is no longer promiscuous is more desirable than a woman who has a past of promiscuity and
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ongoing promiscuity but i would also say that a woman who doesn't have a past of promiscuity and
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is currently not promiscuous is more desirable than the other things too um but if past doesn't matter
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let me go around the table on this would you date a guy who has slept with men yes
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oh i'm not sure maybe yeah okay no uh huh but hold on i thought that this is the past
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that's sexual preference though like that i don't know that's okay so you wouldn't date a guy who's
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bi no okay let's say he used to but not anymore he's straight it doesn't work that way no maybe
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you know you're either by or you're not well let's say it's been like five years he hasn't slept with a
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man no but he's the potential i the potential in the future it could happen right oh wait the
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potential in the future it could happen oh man that was rich yes well exactly exactly why body
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count matters because body count is an indicator for uh infidelity oh no sleep with a lot of people
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like they've done studies on this they've done studies the light bulb just go off no i don't think
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it indicates oh sorry i don't think your past i mean the thing is i agree it's hard for people to
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change but i don't necessarily think your past indicates like i'm not gonna assume it's not my
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partner is gonna do something based on something he's done in the past i would rather trust who he
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is in this present moment so you're saying you're saying if you if you met a guy and he cheated on his
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past 10 girlfriends that's different but that's exactly cheated but you're just saying promiscuity
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you're not saying that all these women every single of their 50 body count was a cheating no
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that's not what i'm saying but they've actually done numerous studies on this numerous studies
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and promiscuity is a very strong indicator for infidelity very strong indicator and i would argue
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that past behavior is typically a very strong indicator for future behavior um but going around
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the table would you date a guy who slept with men no no no don't lie tiffany come on
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oh emily's gone okay let me get these chats guys sorry we had to mute them because we're just getting
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too many so i'm just going to go ahead and trigger all of these pretty much all one after the other
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sorry for you know i know we say instant tts but it was just getting too disruptive raven dt
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donated 100 i was not serious about the you cannot do a purity check to look for a hymen
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they come in many different shapes and you cannot tell if there was penetration or not
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this has been debunked check out mama dr jones obg yes i'm i'm aware that the presence of a hymen
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or lack of presence of a hymen is not an indicator necessarily for virginity i was more
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so just trying to make a point about virginity being something that was that's uh value typically
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and then we have vash the stampede thank you man vash underscore the underscore stampede donated 99
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emily you're so amazing she's behind the scenes for upholding traditional values i grew up mormon
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and have been disheartened by the promiscuity of the modern feminist i would rule simp city and build
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your house back i guess brian your high end game is on point what okay my all right oh hold on
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fuck yo before you show that to her can i respond to grids right there uh no no let me let me just
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get through these hold on uh nickelodeon can we get a vote in chat what's more obnoxious chase long-winded
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rants or tts that keeps brian's lights on ps did your bf teach you the difference between nationalism
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and joining the kkk what oh this is this is for her this is for tiffany wait what saint underscore
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easy donated 99 what are women supposed to do not be a feminist ha ha okay thank you saint breezy did
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you want to respond to nickelodeon what did he say i thought he was talking to you no he's talking to
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you your boyfriend brand yeah well he's not my boyfriend yet but yeah okay all right um emily
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vash underscore the underscore stampede donated 99 emily you're so amazing thank you for upholding
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traditional values i grew up mormon and have been disheartened by the promiscuity of the modern
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feminist i would rule simp city and build you a house brian your hymen game is on point beautiful
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do you have a response to grid one motorsports that's pretty beast or sorry that was bash the
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stampede excuse me not bash the stampede was based thank you all right we have grid one motorsports
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grid one motorsports donated 99 dollars based emily my wife keeps me around because i build things
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it is what i do she did not marry me because i talk about sweet things she married me because i get
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things done made her feel safe and since the day we met she has been the only one all right we have
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thank you man thank you good woman all right we have raven dt here
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raven dt donated 100 body count is directly proportional to the way she moves in the sexual
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slash dating marketplace and her overall sexual temperance if a woman has slept with 100 men
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then it means she doesn't respect herself so why would she respect you as a mate
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disagree you disagree i totally disagree with that and i would flip it too and i would say
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um do you give that same kind of standard to men like do you like that's that it bugs me to my core
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and i think like the thing is i'm not a feminist or anything like that but what bugs me in my core is
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the double standard of men can do whatever they want they can stick their dick in whatever they want and
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it's cool but god forbid a woman have multiple sexual partners that it bugs out of me because
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put your same logic to yourself and who should pay for the first date the man that's a double standard
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there's all kinds of double standards that happen to exist some benefit men some benefit women i would
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say though i don't my personal view on promiscuity i don't think it's good for either either gender
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i don't think it's a granted i do think that there are some differences hold on i'll come back
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to that one hundred and one dollars women always admitting that they are themselves the liars through
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the statement slash question she could lie imagine using a hypothetical of lying as an argument
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tells a lot about you and your character lie brian plaza host the podcast not chase all right well
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there you have it thank you uh jacama appreciate it um i what were you saying sorry
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i was saying i i don't understand why you think that a man paying on the date is the equivalent of
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like a double standard well it is a it's an expectation that you have on men that you don't
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hold for yourself or for other women that is a double standard doesn't the man ask the woman huh the
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man asked the woman though so so why would he but it's a double i'm again there are double standards
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that benefit women there are double standards that benefit men it is what it is i don't think it's
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desirable for men or women to be promiscuous because i mean one i don't think like there's
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this trope about oh it's high value to like i it's high value for a guy to just like sleep with a
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bunch of chicks first off like the risk of std is i don't think it's high value if you catch herpes and
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you're going to be bringing your future wife or children uh a disease so like i don't care how
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attractive or how rich you are if you're bringing your future partner some sort of like vd that's
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not the high status or cool um so yeah it's certainly not alpha to have herpes in my view
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um but uh i think men should be held to that standard she's talking about a little bit whereas
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like that yeah don't just stick your dick in anything because then sure but yeah but then women
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would also just naturally follow into your interiorly most of the time into the lead of
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the man and raven bt donated 100 i have a body count of seven one was a marriage that ended in
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divorce the rest were in the pursuit of long-term relationships good men who want marriage are not
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whoring themselves around either yeah i mean the difference is when it comes to the double standard
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those i would argue that there there is a differential insofar as it's rather difficult comparatively
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speaking it's hard for men to get laid whereas it's very easy for women to get laid so for a
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guy to be able to sleep with a lot of women even though i don't think that that's necessarily a good
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thing to some degree that's impressive whereas it's not impressive for a woman to sleep with a lot
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of men because it's very easy for women to get laid whereas it's rather difficult for men to get laid
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agree disagree sounds like i don't know i agree with that like any single girl here if you're so
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inclined it's 8 30 p.m on a sunday like you could go download the dating app and like go get laid
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tonight even even below average looking women nearly here's here's what i've said before nearly
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any woman if she wanted to could be a slut i would argue a very small proportion of men can be sluts
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they might want to but the difference is the is the capacity to do it i would say maybe like the top
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10 percent of men can slide around top three maybe yeah well also when it comes to sexual pull i would
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argue that take an average woman's sexual pull in order for a man to get the same degree of sexual
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attention from women that women that an average woman gets from a man he needs to be like an a-list
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celebrity a top tier like so we're talking top tier athlete musician point where like nick what do
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you do okay guillotine guillotine um so like it there's just so many differences when it comes to
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that but um here let me get this last chat here we have jay butler on the herpes thing he's always
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talking about nine dollars on a long enough timeline if you sleep with enough people you
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will get genital herpes as condoms do not protect from this 60 bodies equals exposure to 12 infected
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partners now you need to be taken out to pasture and be put down filthy filthy filthy filthy okay there
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you have it thank you uh jay butler appreciate it let me get some of these super chats here uh one sec
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here guys i'm just waiting okay we have grid one motorsports wife is the vp for number one investment
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bank in the u.s it is a tough job most her oh uh female co-workers have moved to less demanding jobs
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more men bail percentage-wise than women the toll it takes is high our marriage would not survive if i
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was not retired okay there you go grid one motorsports thank you man appreciate it we have
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modest jacama jackie work for company in seattle with women in engineering internship jackie works for
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microsoft only big boys getting away with ignoring affirmative action reversal since penalty
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is zero dollars relatively jackie why ms over samsung with 20 south korean gdp gross domestic product
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what first i don't work for microsoft i work for amazon oh all right there you have it we have monster
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kama brian i encourage you to not let chase convince you to pause or raise tts what is the business
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literally your words in this episode maybe let chase know sorry chase i know you're based but that
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unbased chase losing you money i mean it's it's sometimes it's a little interruptive and it so
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it can interrupt the flow of the conversation we have grid one motorsports was not aware this was
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the chase show uh-oh i've had three chats ignored neat oh yeah it's just we had to uh pause it it was
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just way too interruptive and we i'm we're already behind with some of the other notes i have to get
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through so sorry grid one motorsports i didn't mean to push yours like an hour out there has to be a
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happy medium between answering them once every hour and a half versus every 30 seconds what does
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based mean don't worry about it um it and the so if something's like cool and truthful and like
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based in reality real got you yeah i mean and also i mean i'm open to the chat's feedback because
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certainly like it for example if we had the tts way too low like if we said that to 20 it would
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literally be like we wouldn't even be able to have a conversation so i was it was kind of a balance
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between well i i don't want to boost it but let's pause it so it's not instant and we'll just like
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pick a specific time to do the tts normally we don't do that normally it's just not so interruptive
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but it is what it is we have uh grid one motorsports chats lose relevance when we're at an hour later
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yeah sorry man it's just we've gotten in so many so i don't want to have to boost some of the chats but
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it's just been super frequent frequent this show so uh sorry to the sorry to some of you i know i
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i really first off i really appreciate your patronage and you guys are spending like good
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money supporting the show being patrons and i know you guys want your chats to be read as quickly as
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possible but we've just the frequency has been so quick the show that uh for the sake of the
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conversation we just had to do little pauses here and there so appreciate you guys bearing with us on
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that i apologize too on behalf of brian that was that was my call i didn't mean for you guys to waste
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your money on your super chats it was just it was tough because earlier in the show it was like
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literally every three minutes it was very frequent we couldn't even have a conversation and i still
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have like a ton of notes here i need to get through so we'll try to get through them as quickly as
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possible so okay i think we left off with emily i believe hold on uh oh emily you said i'm dating for
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marriage eventually and i look for qualities of a good husband in the people i want to date without
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even consciously realizing it i feel like that can be hard with the dating culture today because most
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people want something short-term that doesn't have a lot of boundaries who said this emily right over
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here yeah i almost feel though like a lot of women will say this but while waiting to find the right
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guy well you're you're gonna have your fun and just have casual sex with fuck boys jerks bad boys and
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assholes not you specifically yeah not you specifically but um so yeah interesting i got some solutions for
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you i know a lot of dudes that are looking for traditional women like solid dudes i could hook
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you up and like church probably yeah they're almost all christian yeah here we have strana here i'll just
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get it while it came up uh would you marry a virgin if you could and take your chance they would be bad
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in bed i i suppose this is for everybody maybe this is directed at the men but i guess we could go around
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the table would you marry a virgin um i guess i'm not opposed to it but i wouldn't prefer it you wouldn't
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prefer it i wouldn't prefer a virgin versus not a virgin why is that um because i want somebody who
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knows how to have sex okay yeah because i also feel like i want somebody who knows how to handle
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their sexual desire too because if they've never had sex before and then have sex and then like become
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a porn addict or just become addicted and like end up cheating because they have never had to control
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their sexual desire before and then i don't know controlling their desire though i'm pretty sure
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they're controlling their desire fairly well but i get what you're saying but you know what i mean
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like i feel like they could just end up once they have it like just i don't know not be able
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to be loyal i don't know because i actually knew of this happening once there was this couple
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and she married a guy who was a virgin and then years into their marriage she found out he was like
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sleeping with prostitutes and she found her seeds and all this stuff it's a very specific thing for
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sure and i think it's definitely backwards than what you're talking about i think men that have
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more sexual history are definitely more well yeah i'm not saying that either but i just i also feel like
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balance is key for everything so i don't i don't think i would desire someone who's a virgin but
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i don't desire someone who's extremely permissuous though either um yeah i would because sex is so
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teachable like you can teach somebody what you like it's very very teachable okay i would but i
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don't know if i would find myself attracted to a virgin okay um by the way just letting you guys know
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since i'm going around the table you guys can preemptively you know we don't need like a five
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second pause but go ahead go ahead um i would because i'd be marrying for love not for the sex
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i prefer a virgin uh i i don't really care i look for other qualities yeah i would do it chase what
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about you yeah definitely i mean you can if you're a man and you have strong frame and your woman desires
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you like you can teach her how to have great sex with you and if she really desires you it's probably
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going to unfold like that yeah there's a there's a direct correlation between the enjoyment of sex
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and how how much desire your partner has for you i would i would definitely get with a virgin prefer
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i'd prefer a virgin or just like low body count i mean i i don't need the girl to be a virgin but
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low body count is definitely uh preferable for sure you don't want to get married do you
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not really i heard you say that on another show that you don't want to get married may you know
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listen could i meet the right girl who could convince me she's just amazing it's possible
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it's not possible it's possible you have to convince a man no it's possible no i could have a monogamous
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life long partner but i think uh and i don't want to get in i don't just because we're yeah we don't
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have a bunch of time and i i want to get through a bunch of notes but uh i do think there are some
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valid reasons why um marriage is not a great move from a religious perspective fantastic but
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the the issue is when it comes to marriage this the state oversees your marriage not your religion
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really so if and also when your wife if she so chooses to divorce you she's not going to go to the
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church she's going to go to the state to get alimony to get xyz to get community property to get half
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the house to get half the assets she'll go to the state not the church so for that reason if if the
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state was not so heavily involved in the affairs of romance and love and marriage i might be more
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inclined to do it prenup prenups frequently get challenged and thrown out and sometimes deemed
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unenforceable for a variety of reasons prenups are only as if a woman is motivated enough she can
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try to get out of a prenup some evil women have you it's not it's not i'm just a practical person
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who sees the reality of the uh family court system the bias against men in the family court system
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divorce laws etc it's not so i have a question if you did have a lifelong monogamous partner and she
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stayed at home for you and um would you set something up for her in case you guys separated and
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she would have like money after that like a week a monthly um check because like if you're not
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marrying her but she's expected to sacrifice years of her career to be at home with you what is she if
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she's not getting marriage in return how is she going to be protected yes so so within the traditional
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paradigm of that there there certainly is a case to be made for alimony being justified if she has
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genuinely sacrificed her career to be a stay-at-home mother she has made sacrifices in the pursuit of a
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career and having children and if i were to leave her then that would present to her some substantial
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financial burden there there are some very legitimate rational reasons for alimony being
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justified what i don't like however is the state coming in and saying well okay you're a really high
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earning man therefore you need to be paying your wife six figures a month because you earn this much
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uh i don't think a woman is entitled to continuity into lifestyle at the breakdown of the relationship
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i think there ought to be some degree of limit on the like these fucking celebrities that get divorced
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you know how you get continuity in your lifestyle by staying with that person now granted husbands i
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suppose could be the initiators of divorce or be abusive where it's just so warranted that the woman
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initiates the divorce however i don't think that's really frequently the case and the fact of the
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matter is women overwhelmingly are the ones who are initiating divorces 80 of divorces are initiated by
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women so there's going to have to be some sort of rewriting of these alimony laws uh to make it a bit more
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equitable let's say so you would rewrite the alimony law like what you didn't i don't know
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specifically how do you want do you want like outside of marriage do you want a lifetime partner
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like that oh yeah definitely have kids with him yeah have kids i'm yeah what kids we could do kids
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she she is she does raise an interesting point because i mean you you know if a woman is your
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stay-at-home wife and all that kind of stuff yeah stay-at-home mom she would she would be totally
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dependent on you and out of curiosity like how would you give her security in that kind of situation without
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a ring how would i give her security yeah like how could you guarantee her security because she's
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she's raising the excellent point like if at some point in time you hypothetically were like you know
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what i'm over it i want to go be with some other chick like she'd be screwed you know that's that's
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a fair point so that's a fair point well i mean i would argue that you know child support could
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potentially come in and child support even if you're not married uh they can claw quite a bit of you
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know in that case um look i think there ought to be a a healthy balance and when it comes to
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these sorts of laws when it comes to alimony and i just i don't see it with the current marriage laws
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that there are i'm not trying to convince you to get married i'm just yeah i'm i'm i think it's a
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great question that you brought up because you know you're like you've said many times you're a
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businessman i'm a businessman you're a businessman i don't sign contracts uh that that don't benefit me
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yeah you want you want a good deal but i'm i'm i'm trying to look at it like okay what if what
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if i was a woman and i wanted to be with brian it'd be a freaking bad deal to like to invest my
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life with no security guaranteed from you that's a pretty bad deal for a woman it's a great deal
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fantastic deal let me tell you why it's a great deal here here's a great deal shares maybe
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no besides getting to be with you like your company maybe very very risky for her not that
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risky very it's like it's like you're spinning on your hand and you're shaking hers and you're like
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i'll never leave you don't worry believe me but that's the same thing with marriage no no no no
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that's the exact same thing with marriage do you know how much a divorce costs though what you're
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not just saying it's not it's not look i see what you're saying i see what you're saying it's not the
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exact same thing with marriage because like there is like it's you go through a whole process there's
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a ceremony like there's a societal expectation like part of you know part of
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why it's shameful to divorce is because you're making these vows in front of everybody that you
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know hey i'm going to be faithful to you you're going to be faithful to me and then there's social
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shame associated with breaking that so it's not exactly the same as like getting married
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i mean i'm describing basically just a verbal agreement and a handshake hey yeah we'll be together
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for life and then i mean the woman's like okay i i hope he means it you know yeah that's freaking
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risky bro sure and i i would argue that in the past this wasn't so much a concern right because we had a
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better social fabric people more were i mean there was far less divorce historically um now we see the
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divorce rate is crazy women overwhelmingly are the ones to initiate divorce that's why from a male
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perspective i have far greater concerns and worries when it comes to potential divorce than
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then perhaps i could have expected 50 60 70 80 100 plus years ago um also i would say that the
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the family court system is very gynocentric there's bias against men in the court system yeah that's true
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so it's just look you know what i think you should do just become a monk i think no
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i think you should be the man of god that you say they are okay go find a good woman and be the
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social fabric that you want to see in the world brian no i look the nuclear family great kids marriage
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religious marriage great but again we have the state we have this court system yeah no i see your
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point and look dangerous and and here's the thing right in california especially in california
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what are the vows that they say till death do us part uh that has to mean something till death do us
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part if i were to get married to a girl that's just for life there ain't no there is no divorce but
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there is but there's not but there is i wouldn't get divorced you remember when we had this conversation
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with deborah and sam and gorlach yeah yeah i dude i looked at and we were talking about like you you
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made the claim that uh christian marriages like still had super high failure rates dude i so i
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looked this up i started it's less i started digging into the data families that regularly go to church
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together and read the bible together and pray together the divorce rate is less than one percent
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yeah chase can i ask you a question what's up so i guess i watched the show and i watched it
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uh the kotak rats are donated 99 dollars hello jack bro you i'm a 27 year old christian and my
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life three three chats are coming in right now beautiful and interesting and i'd like to get
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to know you sometime i'm not much of a social media person so feel free to text me if that's the
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number okay thank you go watch it head him up compliments thank you very much you should head
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him up see if he's legit that might be right there raven dt donated 100 in judaism there's a
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marriage contract called a ketah bar it requires a groom to provide for his bride on their wedding day
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intended to protect the woman primarily by establishing the man's financial obligations
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to her in case of divorce or his death all right raven dt thank you thank you interesting
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eliminate no fault divorce oh this one's coming we got one coming in from nasha nabu that's coming in
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here nashu nabu donated 99 thank you guys appreciate it eliminate no fault divorce if the man cheats
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she can divorce and get alimony if she cheats and he's the breadwinner he can divorce her and she loses
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any chance of alimony if he beats her she can divorce and get alimony i agree with that look i think from
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a guy's perspective when it comes to marriage and i don't want to linger on it too long because i do
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have a lot of notes i got to get through women overwhelmingly initiate breakups initiate divorce
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so my view is you never sign a contract with someone who is rewarded for breaking it i think no
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sane informed man ought to sign that contract the problem the problem with sort of these like
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views on marriage is they feel to the state and i already i think i already said this the state presides
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over the marriage not the biblical values or your religion so when the woman is unhappy she's
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going to go to the state not god and i think that's primarily where i have an issue um i want
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to add something really quick though really quick just because i really got it it'll be super quick
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before no no fault divorce if you wanted to get a divorce in the united states this was like early
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1900s if a woman or a man wanted to divorce their spouse they had to build a case for why it was
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justifiable and then provide evidence for that in court that you couldn't just divorce somebody like
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that like i wish we still had that kind of society okay all right um let's see why don't we uh let's
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pull up the two more videos from her nick we'll just do them right after the other go ahead oh also
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before we before we play it i'm going to do a pause on the tts i i know we say instant but i just
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want to get through this next section go ahead first of all i think that being single is not an
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insult just because you're single doesn't mean that you're not desirable but i don't want just a
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boyfriend i want to weed out all of the men who don't understand what feminine energy can do for
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their life all of these men who are saying what do you bring to the table haven't experienced goddess
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queen energy a king will know that a woman in her true femininity adds so much more value to a man
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than any amount of money ever could next one i like her videos lead me when i'm in the mood
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to be led nick f11 i want leadership but don't just like scroll me around you know like lead me
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lead me when i'm in the mood to be led i want want leadership but don't
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is that kind of like facetious or pretty accurate would you say um i mean the caption was you're
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transitioning into like your feminine era your soft girl era so you're like lead me so it's like
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it's a joke yeah okay it's a joke it's that clip of ryan from the office it is yeah which is also
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facetious it's the office got it okay but there's a there's a kernel of truth in the sentiment yeah the
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kernel of truth is that it's a struggle to go from being hyper independent into being into your
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feminine energy that's the truth for me that's understandable i think a lot of women struggle with
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that it's hard to let go because you also are like i've seen all these boys who aren't in their
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masculine and then once you like step into your feminine then you attract different kind of energy
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but the any kind of transition is always hard so yeah i think a lot of women struggle with that because
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of uh feminism the residue of feminism and how it conditions women a lot of women have like just
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tremendous resistance to the idea of like submitting to a man submitting to a man's leadership
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really at the end of the day goddess queen energy i mean even the word queen it implies that you have
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a king and at the end of the day the king's say is the king's say you know what i mean now that
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doesn't mean that he wouldn't consult his queen but uh i wish you success in making that transition
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into your soft girl era because the kind of men that you want like women that are easily led so to
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speak you know i have been successful and that's good yeah it's been good um in the second video we
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reacted to um you that's the one where you were talking about basically essentially the patriarchy
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that i think men have it easier just women are disadvantaged it's a man's world uh in the description
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of that you say that equality is not sameness it's fairness the sexy and fair thing to do is for the
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man to pick up the tab ladies do not settle for less we teach people how to treat us
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that is accurate right that's what you said um and so i if i recall did you say that you consider
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yourself a feminist yes i do so i guess my question to you is how do you reconcile being a feminist
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believing in gender equality doing away with gender roles i i'm not sure if you believe in those but
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but so how do you reconcile being a feminist but also demanding that men pay for first dates
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um i think that you don't have to be on one side like one extreme side or the other extreme side
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just like in politics like you don't have to be like ultra liberal or ultra conservative like you can
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kind of figure out the values that you believe in and believe in those values and i wasn't i didn't
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really i was like more in my like masculine more hyper uh independent era and then as i became
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someone who like the things that i wanted in life shifted i'm like oh i actually do want a lifelong
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partner and how do i get the kind i just through contemplation not through any tradition i'm not
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looking to tradition i'm not looking to now i'm just thinking about what do i want what kind of person
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do i want to attract and through that is where i got my values of like oh i'm like creating this space
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where men don't get to like feel like they're the the hero like feel like they're leading and i'm like
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i do want a man like that so that means i need to take a step back it has nothing to do with tradition or
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feminism like i'm just like that's the that's what i want to do i don't care if it's tradition if it's a
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traditional value i don't care if it's a modern value that's just what i want so i'm going to act
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accordingly so but do you believe in gender equality um i believe in fairness i'm not
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totally following yeah i mean i think why would it be unfair to go 50 50. um it's technically you're
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doing the same thing but in the relationship that i want i don't want to do that so you don't want
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fairness in your relationship it's okay to say that that you don't want fairness i don't want sameness
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i want but that's the same thing that they mean honestly the same thing you don't want to pay 50 50
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which is valid i i don't want to either but that's yeah they're i think it's the same thing because if
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you were to be equal then you would have to pay 50 50 and i'm just yeah i think we're arguing
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semantics well sure so the words mean the same thing but i mean do you do you believe in gender
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equality um yes do you believe i don't believe that the gender i don't believe that men and women
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should do the same things but i think sure uh well okay but i think that women should have the
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opportunity to do what they want to do should men if they want to go if they want to go 50 50 then
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go 50 50 i don't give a fuck what you do like that's just what i want well i guess just as a
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feminist i like i i guess where i'm struggling is why do you support a rather patriarchal traditional
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belief of men paying for a woman's time i don't believe that it is a patriarchal belief i think it's
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based off energy based off energy the patriarchy i think says a woman has to do this she should do
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this i'm saying you can i would disagree as the patriarchy's spokesperson on the whatever podcast
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the patriarchy says it's good for a woman to do this and a woman ought to do this it's not a woman
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has to do this it's it's good for a woman to do this it's in alignment with her nature and a man's
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nature yeah therefore she ought to yeah i mean i think that official statement from the patriarchy
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oh okay so i don't know i just feel like part of feminism is challenging gender roles but let me
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ask you a couple questions so um will you take your husband's last name um i'm not sure what she
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wants a guy to you want him to feel like a hero in your life and you won't even take you're not proud
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to take your man's last name i haven't met a man who is worthy of but if you did he would be your
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husband this would be your the guy who you will marry i don't know it depends what his last name
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is if it's like really holy smokes why would a high value man want to woman marry a woman who won't
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even take his last name i why would any man want that i don't that's like the most humiliating thing
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in the world i didn't realize that it was so humiliating i mean i would i'm definitely open to
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having a discussion with the man that i fall in love with i don't think that like me and you would
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be a match i don't think that you and i would be a match and that's totally fine if i meet a man who
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is my match and he like is like this is so important to me like this is what it would mean to me i'm open
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to having that discussion with him but you said if his name is kind of weird that that seems like a
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very arbitrary reason to not want to take it if i knew if i knew that a woman was not interested in
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taking a man's last name i would not even offer to take her on a date in the first place well luckily
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you're not offering to take me on a date so that's correct which is just generally speaking i don't
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want to find a man like you so i think we're good generally speaking though like like you have to
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understand it's i understand that men like you want that yeah i mean any traditional guy who's like
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filling even a remotely patriarchal role that you hold on please let me finish any traditional guy who's
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filling even a remotely patriarchal role that you're describing like is going to want a woman
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who would be proud to take his last name that's like a given i just i don't see like you want the
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guy to pay for the first date you don't want a 50 50 relationship but like the most basic thing
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there yeah the most it seems like look if if as a guy you want to like do the 50 50 thing with your
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girl then maybe in that scenario you should go in expecting hey she might want to hyphenate she might
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not want to take my last name but you have in the same way that i was talking in the same way that
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i was talking earlier about well what does the guy that you want what does he want and the guy
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that you want who wants to be that masculine guy who wants to be a leader who wants to pay for the
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first dates not do 50 50 i would assume that he's going to also be the type of guy that wants you to
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take his last name i don't think some of these things are right you know what i would do if i was on
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a date with a girl and she told me she wouldn't date you no no i know but you know that's that's
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she's made that i'm sorry she finds me horrible but like i never said that if i said we're not a
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match if that's fair that's fair that's fair if i was on a date with a girl you would i hope i hope
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you'll appreciate this if i was on a date a first date with a girl and halfway through the date she
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told me you know what i'm not interested in taking a man's last name when i marry him no
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what i would say is oh i'm sorry i didn't realize we were going on this date as friends
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okay thanks thanks for talking to be to be fair like i am transitioning into this
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maybe as i wait you're transitioning i'm transitioning into being more in my feminine
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era and i'm exploring this apart i'm exploring this apart from tradition i'm not thinking about
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any values that anyone's taught me i'm not thinking about societal standards i'm thinking
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about what do i want what kind of energy do i want to invite in my life let me finish okay and
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so as i continue to explore this as i've gotten more clear with my values i've had a shift i'm
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like oh maybe i need to do this differently potentially maybe that is something that i
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will have a change of mind i am in a transition i understand i don't understand the male perspective
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when it comes to that and i've never been even close to like wanting to take a man's last name so i'm
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i'm open to having my mind shift about this um and i don't think that you guys should like shame
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me for being in a space where i'm figuring it out but you shame you seem so solid on what the
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expectations of men are but you don't seem to be very privy to that what that type of man wants
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and you also shame men she's still figuring it out but she understands no she's the kind of man
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she's looking for she's she's figured out what she wants but she hasn't figured out what the man that
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she wants wants yes but but if you want that kind of treatment then you got to come correct
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on your end too let me tell you what i want what do you want you know what i want chase tell us what
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you want i'll tell i'll tell you what i want i want i hope that you find the kind of guy that your
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heart desires and that he's the kind of man where you look at him and you're like you know what i want
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like you i want to take your last name you are my freaking hero i hope you found that guy me too
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if i find that man and that's what he really wants then great nick if you can pull up that video
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there's a video where you reacted to recently and then in the past it's this progressive woman who's
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in a car and she's saying i can't do you know what the video i'm talking about nick progressive woman
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wants i hope by the time you find him too that you're ready for him i will be ready when i find him
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that's the only reason here i got another question um will your husband be the head of the household
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what does that mean he is the leader and the authority in the home like he gets final say on
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everything whatever everything doesn't mean he's a tyrant but if there's an important decision
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that needs to be made his final word is the word that goes um his final word so if we disagreed on
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something so we're talking about something homeschooling let's say you're having a debate
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right okay so let's homeschool our children i'm like i don't want to have the time because i
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have to do these performances i'm doing my music whatever i don't have time to homeschool or
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whatever sure and what i say would i like just let him say no this is why and then be like okay
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sure is that what you're asking if i feel like that's a bad example because you guys you would
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probably never end up with a guy who wanted to do homeschooling if you want to perform while you're
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in marriage and having a family let's say um moving somewhere let's say you want to move to
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montana but he feels it's really important to move to utah instead just hypothetically speaking and he's
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like hey babe i have x y and z reasons this is really important and you're like no i want to move
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to montana instead and he's like babe i need you on board we need to move to utah yeah would you
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acquiesce would you submit to that i think this kind of a situation is difficult to say what i
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would do because it's extremely hypothetical but i will say in a hypothetical situation say
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i meet the man i'm like oh my god give me your last name we have kids whatever our values and our
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vision are aligned i don't feel like i have to give up a part of myself because we're together like
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i'm supporting his vision and he is supporting mine because they're the same vision we have the same
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vision for our family yeah yeah i was just going to say i think someone has to lead though right
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like there's it's usually one personally that's why when you file taxes there's a head of the household
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so there's never just a part like even though it's a partnership one person takes the lead and it's
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generally the man which is why he's asking if being the head of the household and then the homeschooling
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kids was a bad example because like like he said you would to be a traditional feminine woman like
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working a career while raising children at the same time wouldn't okay here i'll just
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fucking say it our child has come to us confused because they've been schooled publicly i'm gonna
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reduce i'm we're gonna take out the homeschooling component of it our child comes home confused we
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have a biological son he's thinking oh them might be a woman i'm here saying no we're not gonna put
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our son on fucking puberty blockers we're not going to put him on drugs we're not going to do
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any of that stuff if as he at 18 if he just won't listen to us and he can make those decisions once
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he's reached a majority of age if he wants to do that he can but we are not i'm not going to allow
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my child to do this would you i feel like this isn't great this isn't a great example either no i mean
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i suppose no it's it's important though because this happens in households it does men need to
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think about this like this is why this is why i will i don't know if it's a good example but like
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would you defer would you defer to me saying no we're not gonna do this or or or even uh uh
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to simplify it even further you want your kid to go to public school your husband's like no we need
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to spend more money to go to private school but you're like i'd rather save that money so we can buy
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like whatever you know you have a different financial goal he's like no like he needs to
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not go to public school because they're indoctrinating children would you agree to that like if he's paying
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for the private school sure okay all right here let me move on there's one there's one last aspect of
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this that i think is like worth calling attention to it's like you're you're saying like no i don't
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want patriarchy but also at the same time you're saying i want to fully step into my queen goddess
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energy but being a queen to the kind of man that you're describing implies a king and that is a
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patriarchal structure and if you want a king a man who's truly embodying king energy if you want him
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to step into that role he's going to expect that you will submit as his queen now that doesn't mean
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that he'll boss you around as his slave but like a queen is subordinate to the king yeah i mean i think
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that the word submit has a lot of uh baggage with it for feminists of men like because i've been
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in households and i know many men who abuse their authority and say submit to me they don't they
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don't submission is given not taken but uh right so that's just abuse that's not yeah no and i think
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a lot of people say the word submit but what they mean is abuse so that's what i'm against like i don't
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know about no i think we're pretty confident in what we mean here no i'm not saying you guys i'm
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just saying in general i do need to move this on a little bit but let me get these since grid one
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just sent to let me get these to come through here hold on one second one grid one motorsports donated
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one hundred dollars one of the worst crimes committed against society is the deletion of obey from love
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honor and obey in marriage vows without a leader all ships run aground all missions failed
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yep while you should walk with christ you do not need religion to be a good wife
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all right thank you grid one appreciate it great comment got another one coming in from grid one
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motorsports here in just oh hold on wait here i'll i guess this is i'll re-trigger when she's back
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that's annoying but um here i'll just read let me see i had a couple notes here and she's gone
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some of this applies to her i don't know but um let's see it's such a good point though like the
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idea of having a ship without a captain or having a ship with two captains it's not gonna work it's
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not gonna work it's not gonna work can't work cannot work let's see captain first mate uh okay we got
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through oh we have one oh okay curtis underscully undonated one hundred dollars since we are on
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hypotheticals brian if you went to prison for life no chance of parole and the governor said he may
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pardon you if you participate in a naked human pyramid would you do it kiko is the verifier
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what uh that's such a funny for life would you do it bro prison for life and i get a pardon
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i'm yes modest yes i am donated 101 dollars you know chase just when i think i couldn't possibly
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be any dumber you go and do something like this and totally redeem yourself imagine thinking
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submission is abuse wtf ladies oh it's uh it's a dumb and dumber reference appreciate that bro
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modest jacama much appreciated thank you man thank you i respect the reference dude
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grid one motorsports donated 99 dollars copy kiko please do not marry a man who would accept you the
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way you are now you will ruin each other's lives wait for the man that you want to change for that you
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want to be a wife for feminism has failed you the patriarchy is here to help it's here to help
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chase is the representative he's the spokesperson for the patriarchy yep hey guys i'm going just so i
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can get through i'm gonna uh mute the tts we'll get to it uh later on in the show so uh yeah uh oh yeah
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twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drops the follow drops the prime sub twitch.tv
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slash whatever pub test think for the gifts nike think for the prime uh rye think for the prime
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um let's see here we had one last thing on this uh i would say that
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i don't know if you want your man to be a gentleman chivalrous traditional but if you're
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you're not willing to give back traditional values to him taking his last name it doesn't sound like
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fair trade-off well that's an interesting super chat speak yo ab check thing for the gifted 20
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memberships is it muted nick is it is it muted the audio
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oh okay um so it's just like uh let me see here i you just you cannot recoil at the very idea of
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gender roles but then expect men to pay because men paying is a gender role so you can't just discard
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all the gender roles that have to do with you but then expect the man to still abide by every gender
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role that applies to him um so i don't know i'll i'll end it at this i think that women want equality
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societally and they want tradition romantically in so far as that tradition stands to benefit them
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where said tradition does not stand to benefit women they will not adhere to that specific tradition
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they will desire and pressure men to adhere to their traditional gender roles so they want to have
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their cake and eat it too basically that not paying thing or the paying thing really gets to you
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huh because i can tell that that one really like it ruffles your feathers yeah just a little bit
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pull your mic close to the edge of the table please no it doesn't it doesn't i don't how does
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it ruffle my feathers i can just tell because does it yeah you go back to like that like that's like
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the base like argument well i mean that's i've noticed the primary video that we're reacting to
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today but i could just tell it doesn't ruffle brian brian has a good point though in that a lot of women
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almost all women want traditional behavior for men but they're not willing to live up to traditional
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behavior on their own side yeah you guys want i think there's a lot of men that want good women but
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also won't be good like and i feel like a lot of our experiences in modern day dating unfortunately
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aren't the best that's why only one of us is in a relationship at the moment and it's because
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we're dealing with men who claim they want these values that you're saying but end up doing not
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great stuff why are you pointing at me no him because he says a lot of things that are good right like
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that you want a woman and you're a certain man and all this stuff but unfortunately there's a lot
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of men who say this that aren't doing that look and they're lying let me tell you something
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ava ava let me let me tell you something i know a lot of guys okay and the bad boys that you guys
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are describing is a small minority the reality is that there are a lot of good guys out there that
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simply just want to find a good woman and treat her right but most women quite frankly suck at picking
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dudes they pick the bad boys that don't give a damn about them because those bad boys spark their
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feelings they they get you ladies feeling some type of thing and you're like oh i like how he
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makes me feel and then you guys get into a relationship and he cheats on you blah blah blah
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blah when all of the red flags are present at the beginning but not always though and that's the
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thing it's not always the case and vice versa like i hate making generalizations about anything i do agree
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to a capacity for some for sure there's a lot of good guys out there and i agree i do most men are
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invisible and i most women i will you probably you probably have a 500 men in your phone contacts
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right now that would treat you so right if you would give them the time of day and give them a date
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actually not necessarily and i really do believe that with a very developed like you learn from your
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experiences right i at least hope so i feel like as you get more confident and secure with yourself you
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know what you want more so and so you seek after that so you won't give these guys the time of day
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or you'll be able to pick up the red flags quicker right but it's funny how now you see the red flag so
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often that it's just like wild how many people are you know trying to lie or manipulate to get you in
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bed or do all this stuff or say all this stuff so it's just it is a little bit more saturated at first
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that you have to weed through a lot of people claiming they want these values that you're saying but they
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genuinely don't mean it and that's why like you told her don't sleep with them right away wait a
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while you know because their true character will show people can have a good personality perfect
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filter like it's women would be able to filter if women waited a few months before having sex with
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guys they would filter 99 of the bad dudes and the thing is though but at the same time yes but also
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no because you can wait you can be friends with a guy for over a year and then decide to take it
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there and they end up doing the same thing so i think it's very situational it's very much about
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the person it's what their values are how they've been raised how they've decided you know like sure
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but in the context in the context of you know what we've been discussing which is dudes cheating
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being dishonest lying all that kind of stuff you're gonna figure out real quick if a guy just wants sex
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and if he can't keep it in his pants if you tell him no we're not gonna have sex and then he just
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immediately dips but a lot from my experience that's not what happens like that doesn't happen
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so you've had guys cheat on you that you've waited to have sex with you've had guys pursue you for long
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periods of time and you refuse to have sex with them and then after you started then they cheated on
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you how many times is this happening a lot a lot yeah i think you guys honestly just suck at picking
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i don't think so i think it's just like a lot of people are manipulators yeah no i don't really know
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a single woman who hasn't dealt with some sort of a horrible dating relation same with women if women
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no i'm not saying people don't deal with horrible dating situations but like yeah if you date enough
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guys eventually there's going to be a guy that cheats on you but the my point is that like y'all
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gotta improve your pool of dudes that you're picking from i think this is why i only talk to christian
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chicks wait one of you and one of you i don't think we got here is it you that mentioned
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butterflies you had butterflies for somebody or was it you i don't know but related to women
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picking not the best guys i think a lot of women are looking for the click the vibe the butterflies
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the spark the chemistry except the tingles whatever magic fireworks whatever bullshit term
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you want to use um and i think the issue is is that in addition to looking for like
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because of women's hypergamous nature you're looking most women are all chasing after the
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top tier of men those men have all the options so yes they're more likely to cheat but you're you're
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looking let me ask the girls a question if you don't feel the quit the click with a guy pretty
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quickly do you just not give that guy a chance it's a good question uh like i often hear women
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say the vibe has to be there there has to be a click there has to be spark chemistry electricity
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because i've heard women say and maybe you guys can tell me if you agree with this you've met a guy
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who on paper he's fantastic good looking good job treats you well good personality but he's just
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missing something you just didn't feel this click or spark or connection it's like sexual tension
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i've still given that person a chance okay a lot of women don't give that guy a chance
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and that's actually probably the good guy you should go for it goes back to you you say you
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pick terrible men you like you're attracted to bad boys and whatnot unfortunately right so
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that which exists in you i think exists in a lot of women you want this sort of excitement yes they
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do you want this excitement from a guy yes and a good guy can give you that but i think it's a little
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bit harder but the guys who are bad or toxic they can definitely give you that it's like a dopamine rush
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actually you're getting like an addictive drug response every time they do something crazy or make
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you wait for a response or something like that it's like feeding your your brain every time with
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yeah and with chemicals this no chemistry he's boring i think that actually translates to he
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doesn't trigger your anxious trauma response which you confuse for love yeah i think he's right you
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should give those guys a chance because you haven't yeah but honestly i mean it's very situational
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because like you can give them a chance but then you realize their characters maybe not who you once
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thought of being good because also i think you're going off a very stereotypical bad boy like that's
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like so cliche like they're guys and triggers and toxicity comes in many forms sure and many behaviors
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and so you know what i think it is sorry if you want to finish and so i just feel like that's a very
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generalized statement because like yeah if you don't feel the spark right away like i
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speaking from personal experience i think that's a little immature i think it's nice to get to know
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somebody and there might not be a spark right away and all this stuff but in my experience that has
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also not led to a genuinely truthful person even if it's been waiting a year or waiting months to be
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with them or whatever so it's like there are just some people who are like that you know and that just
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kind of is what it is this is what i think it is i'm about to mansplain as the representative of the
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patriarchy women are just you guys are emotional creatures you know you guys feel things very
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intensely generally speaking when a woman meets a guy who sparks her emotions real strong it's
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like you said it's like it's like a drug it's like whoo like whoa you know if that's humor if that's
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confidence maybe a guy drops like you know he has like good eye contact with you says the right
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thing when you guys are meeting you know shoots those butterflies through your system women feel that
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super intensely it's intoxicating for a woman to experience that i think given the option between
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that a guy who can like spark all those emotions versus a guy who's kind of like a bit more boring
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nine times out of ten women pursue that emotional rush i think that's what drives a lot of this behavior
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you know one last thing with pearl here you said some men are emotionally attracted to other men
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huh but sexually attracted to women and tall men are overrated
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okay yeah those are my hot takes some men are emotionally attracted to other men
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do you detect that right here is there do you detect it i didn't say it
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uh but sexually attracted okay and tall men are overrated you know i don't often hear that that's
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an interesting i think that tall men are overrated you like short you like a short king um it's not that
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i prefer a short king or a tall person but i think you just don't care i think that women overvalue
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height with men it's like they become blind to other stuff that's all that's super valid five six
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okay that's super valid yeah i mean to be fair like am i sexually attracted to someone who's very very
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short probably not but i think this whole like six three and above or i won't even talk to him is
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bullshit based okay all right there we go common ground wait what's what are the what are the heights
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of the last three men that you've been with um five eight okay six six oh five ten okay all right
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there's like a cross section there i don't discriminate it's fairness there you go there you go all right
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six six was honestly too tall low-key yeah are you gonna say something i do have to head out actually i was
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gonna say traffic but she's late and she has to leave early i wasn't late the other time it's all
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good it's all good um i enjoyed the panel a lot it's very nice ave marie uh you said that you were
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tricked oh sorry i'm yeah you said that you were tricked into a double date once i went on a date with
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a guy that told me he asks zero questions i went on a date with a guy who showed up late and then instead
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of going to dinner we went to frozen yogurt and he kept going behind me in line to get topping
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inevitable leaving me to pay yeah that was insane
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sickening bro that super chat that was there was so good i need to hear the story
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smooth super chat so good i'll get it um let's see you said that being truly confident and full of
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self-love can leave you alone for a long time how so because like i don't accept
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what i used to accept anymore right like i have learned my lessons i've learned about the red flags
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and so i say no a lot now there's a lot of guys who ask me on dates that in the past i probably would
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have gone out with but i see the red flags and i'm like no like you've already said something weird
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you've already said something that i know what you're about and so you're alone for a very long
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time and especially someone who's pursuing a career very intensely i can only focus on that and if
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you're not adding something truly positive and supporting and you're not really truthful to
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yourself i feel like a lot of the time in the past now looking i was a mirror for many men and had
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them face a lot of the hypocrisies that they would tell me but then not do and i just feel like yeah i'm
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very confident myself i know what i bring to the table i know i'm genuine and true i'm very much about
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my word and i'm not going to be with a man who's not and i can kind of subs i can pick up the red
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flags now like i've learned lessons so yeah have i not been going on as many dates as i used to yeah
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because i don't even want to do that i'm looking for someone who's genuine i want to have real
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conversation i really want to get to know you and i really want you to care about getting to know me and
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know that it's not some agenda or kind of fake even though in the past i don't think it was either
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because i do think these men did care for me but it wasn't in the way i needed and so yeah i feel
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like i'm just saying no more so that means i'm alone but i'm not lonely if that makes sense that's
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good i think i think women need to get good at saying no when it comes to guys yeah and it's just
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about knowing your worth and like truly being confident taking time to be alone and to figure
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out what you want in life and family and your partner and your friends i even know to friends too
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you know but definitely into relationships and dating i'll tell you one of my uh opinions on
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women i think being able to say no is a trait of a high value woman yeah yeah 100 based i let's see
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actually let me do some chats and then i'll continue on with my notes here we have jesus
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saved me hey thank you man i know someone who had an affair and got the woman pregnant and still
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did not file for for divorce his wife had to file for divorce so that is one reason why women
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initiating divorce is high because men will not leave even in a situation like that word thank you
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jesus um damn this is one reason why women is high because men will not leave someone who had an
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affair got the woman pregnant and still did not follow okay well it's like my biological father wow
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grid one motorsports dudes will wait in the friend zone forever to get a chance to bump
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uglies but the guy you're dating will not wait for sex girls listen to much too much to what makes
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the pussy quiver oh excuse me quivering pussy that was cringe what even is that
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i mean it's crudely put but he's right yeah no i mean i think it was you that was saying yeah there's
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guys even if you wait a long time i think if the context of the interaction or relationship is
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romantic from the jump not the case but if he's just like quietly waiting in the friend zone for his
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chance then certainly yeah he might just yeah women women want the romance they want the feels they want
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a guy who makes them feel something so we have travalo smooth redhead is belong beyond delulu
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uh if you had multiple situations actually chase are could you read this yeah actually ava how about
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you read it red i love how that they're all referencing me by my hair but redhead is beyond
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delulu if you have had multiple situations where you pick trash men then you have trash intuition even
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though intuition is bs this is why it's important to have your father or brother uncle etc to vet men
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blah blah blah to prevent this bad cycle um first of all fantastic comment wait why are you laughing
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do you do you think it's funny or like you disagree well first of all i never said i picked these men
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like yes eventually i did but i can honestly say that the men i'm i have been referencing on this
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have pursued and pursued and pursued me so intensely that i was like you know what fine we're gonna go on
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a date and like whatever it wasn't in like a creepy scary way but they were very consistent and they
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really said a lot and i saw also their characteristics at least for what they were pursuing they seemed
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very at least mature and healthy and blah blah blah with all that shit going on obviously i didn't know
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about the relationship stuff but my intuition is what led me to figuring out all the bad which led me to
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end it granted i do admit there were red flags for some of them in the beginning that now like i'm saying
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i have learned from now i'm saying no a lot to the things i wouldn't have before but just to clarify
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thank you oh my gosh modest hikima donated 101 dollars high six six figure 29 software and body count
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seven ava you really think i want some random chick that has been with 20 plus dudes please stop lying to
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yourself is generic also props to jackie on the amazon job corporate chill by day badass by night
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okay did you have a quick thing the uh trevello smooths comment he said this is why it's important
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to have your father brother uncle etc to vet men for you to prevent this bad cycle so true
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what if those guys are shit though like what if they're like what if they're not good
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men hopefully you have a good man helping good men vet your people is good yes but your father
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your brother those are not good men i mean it depends on the person i mean but if the point
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is that you it's good to have yeah and getting you have stopped please let me finish my point it's
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important to have men that care about you in your life who also know how men are like i've had female
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friends throughout my life i i knew that they were with bad dudes and i could sniff how bad their dudes
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were from a hundred miles away yeah it's very important to have guys like that around you in
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your life that's true they can do that for you yeah also we need to leave at 9 45 yeah okay okay
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well you're related to this chase you say women suck at picking dudes you're 100 right that's why
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arranged marriages are standard in so many parts of the world i think this is somewhat related to
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trevalo's thing the father needs to vet potentials for this reason ladies that was why that that's how
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courtship has been historically a guy if a guy wanted to pursue a woman her father had to be
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involved and he would vet the guy because women generally speaking cannot vet guys properly my
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father would not have been a great person to vet for me though i'm sorry to hear that yeah that sucks
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if all men were good at that give your kids give your kids that gift by finding a great man i will
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all right we have stifler here ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten we're
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gonna go around the table on this go ahead ten we're waiting on our own luck is that what yeah
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yeah like objectively your looks looks looks looks looks uh i ten i hate this question how about zero
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all right fine eight i don't know i hate that question why because it's so like
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shallow and stupid and would you date a guy who would you date a guy who's shorter than you
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absolutely no because shorter than me i'm five five would you date a guy who's shorter than you
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yes stop the cap no you wouldn't you would not okay why are you so shallow i don't know
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i would say probably seven and a half to eight um i'd say around seven eight um six to seven but i think
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seven when i smile i freaking love you so much i love you uh chase what about you seven and a half
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eight on a good day i give myself six six and a half on a good day i'm gonna say it y'all i'm not
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gonna rate y'all but y'all overrated yourselves a lot that's not very nice why it's just live in reality
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two tens right off the bat two tens off the bat perfect i'm not saying you guys are ugly but like
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gets to me when every freaking time like half the panel do you think all women should be tens
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consider themselves tens no you too since you're the tens do i think that all women should consider
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themselves as tens looks wise looks wise looks wise um i think that how you perceive yourself is all
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about your self-worth and like your looks follow from that like my looks have grown as my self-worth
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has grown so i think it's all connected um your looks have grown like i feel like my looks have
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improved as my self-worth has improved improve your feminine energy yes i yeah like do i have more to
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go like yeah maybe i could be an 11 like who knows no that's not how this works you said 10 is maxed out
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i think that every woman can get to a point where they perceive themselves as a 10 and it's a worthy
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goal to do yeah how do you think how do you think the average man how do you think the average man
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would rate you out of 10 um i'm i don't know i don't i don't know okay wait so but you think all
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i think looks is very uh subjective but so do all should all women view themselves as tens in terms of
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their looks physical appearance i think that every woman should work on working ourselves as a 10 i don't
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think that from the beginning maybe i don't know maybe from the beginning they feel like for men
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too for men too should for men too like should men perceive themselves as tens yeah i i don't know i
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can't speak for men okay um men can do whatever they want well how would you have responded if brian
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said that uh yeah i'm a 10 he was a 10. uh i i wouldn't yeah yeah yeah because you i want someone
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who's like confident not gonna tear you down the confident thing and also real though but like at the
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same time i think there's many factors that go into a 10 like they're no but it's just looks
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purely physical attractiveness wouldn't the confident thing be like i acknowledge that i'm not
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uh amongst the most physically attractive people in the world i'm a six i'm a seven i'm confident in
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that i don't feel bad about my physical appearance but i also acknowledge that i'm not on par with the
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most beautiful models in the entire world i'm not if you say you're a 10 that means that you view
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your your own self-assessment of your physical attractiveness is that i am on par with the
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most beautiful people in the world yeah okay it's not just i'm on par with the most beautiful people
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in the world it's i am equal to the most beautiful people the same kind of something i don't know why
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you want so badly for girls to bring their numbers down because why is that so like it's a it's a
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question for you to say that we overrated us is so ridiculous how's how's that ridiculous you don't
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even think of yourself as a 10 but yeah you're trying to tell us what we are yeah because i have
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eyeballs and i think there's a difference ladies ladies the point that brian's making is if you took
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a thousand men and you all lined up in front of a thousand men and then you connect you you collected
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each of their ratings so to speak the point that brian's making is your ratings of yourselves would
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probably differ from a thousand men's if you took the average of all of them a thousand men's ratings
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yes i agree with that statement i'm not saying that i'm a 10 by the way i already answered this was
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that was the question how do men perceive my looks or how do i know but it's like how do you
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okay hold on when it comes to when it comes to this question let's say for example there is to some
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degree objectivity when it comes to beauty so what i can't say i have a million dollars in my bank
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account and if i have zero dollars in my bank account just because i think it or say it doesn't mean
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that it's true there is objectivity to beauty there's also convention to beauty sure okay so
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how are we like well okay so i have a question for you you have lip filler correct no you don't have
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lip filler i got lip filler done two years ago okay so maybe there's some left over from it but it's
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just the way that i do my oh okay you had lip filler previously yes i did yeah okay and so do you feel
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that like if you were a 10 why the need for were you not a 10 back then i i think that i've grown
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in confidence and in looks yeah since then okay yeah but i think if i perceive myself as a 10 then i
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like push myself to get to those standards every day so i don't think it's helpful you know what at
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the end of the day i don't really give a fuck what true is i give i give more of a fuck of what is
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effective you don't give a fuck about what truth is i care more about what's going to be effective
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for me than what i care about being right or whatever because right is the perception of what
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like what is that even you know what i'm saying like according to reality objective reality according
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to who to you to the thousands of men no objective reality isn't according to anybody i mean objective
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reality is just objective reality too but how who decides what objective reality well so for
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for example for example beauty is based on symmetry and the golden ratio okay right that's objective
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reality that's not something like it's nobody's perception like for example okay so if that's the
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question my answer is i don't give a fuck okay in the beginning of the podcast who rated us i heard
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you call numbers out was that it was a chat okay yeah but i mean the reason why i guess to answer your
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question why i think it's important that both men and women you guys got to go you can't stay
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another like 15 20 minutes no maybe another five but okay we'll do another five we can do another five
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fuck it look okay all right i got you got you got four minutes i got four minutes to to make
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save the world save the world make your points while we're here dude so clock's ticking i think that
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both men and women need to be operating in reality when it comes to their own self-assessment of their
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attractiveness in the dating marketplace if you're no offense delusional when it comes to your own
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physical attractiveness i'm not i'm not saying you guys are unattractive or ugly you're both attractive
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women but however if you think you are 10 aka you are perfect you are on par with the most beautiful
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women in the world that that is delusion and i think i'm an average looking dude i don't think
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i'm anything special you were trying to say well how can you as a guy who's not a 10 claim that we're
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not 10 first off you need not be in order to see something you need not be that thing which you don't
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see in that person to be able to see it um i think it's very important that both men and women are
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realistic about where they stand when it comes to their place in the dating marketplace if you don't
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i think that's where women typically end up getting burned by dudes because if you think you're hot
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shit you're gonna get like these guys you're gonna think you're you're deserving or entitled to a
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certain caliber of guy and if you think you're a 10 surely then you must be deserving of a guy who's a
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10 now you might hold this view that you hold for yourself to the way that you the 10 in your okay
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brian let me let me let me land it for you i know i know what you're picking i know what you're putting
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down i'm picking it up a lot of women think that they're tens a lot of women also end up sleeping
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with dudes that are tens because those guys will sleep with them women it reaffirms this belief in
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their minds oh i'm a 10 and then these women hit cold hard reality when they realize oh the kinds
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of guys that i could sleep with are not the kinds of guys that i can lock down for marriage this
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happens across society as a whole you shaking your head at that you don't think so that's not my
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experience look it might not be your experience but it is for a lot of women a lot of women a lot of
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women go evaluate their self-identity they should and a lot of women will be with guys that are very
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high value who want to sleep are they high value or are they good just hold on both a lot of women
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will be with a lot of women will sleep with guys that are quote unquote high value who want to sleep
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with them but then they find the cold hard reality when they when it's time to settle down they realize
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oh those guys that i liked that were willing to sleep with me in the past won't marry me and that's
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a hard realization for a lot of women i think that's a good argument for saying maybe you shouldn't
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think if that's if that's what's happening because of your belief that you're a 10 then you
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shouldn't do that yes my experience of believing that i'm a 10 is like five years ago my i mean
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there's a most women are insecure the most beautiful women in the world are insecure so to me the way
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that i combated that insecurity was saying i'm hot i'm the baddest bitch in this room i'm a 10 and
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every time i walk into a room i walk into a room with 10 energy as i walk into a room with 10 energy
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it attracts different energy because it's not really just about your looks it's about the kind of person
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that you are the energy energy that you bring your confidence and when you think oh i'm a 10
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my looks are a 10 and then i start acting like it i start doing my hair differently i start doing my
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makeup differently i start getting actually physically more beautiful and i know i will become even more
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beautiful as i continue to think i'm a 10 i'm a bad so that's effective for me if it's ineffective
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for me to think that i'm a 10 and i'm ending up in these weird situations then i should re re-evaluate
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and look at reality but in my experience it's only benefited me and helped me become more and
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more physically beautiful and better overall wait question for you on this cheers cheers to that so
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you're you're you're saying that you will become more physically beautiful um i mean just given the
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track record i think okay i have a question were you are you more physically attractive now at 31 than
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you were at 21 yes will you be more physically attractive at 41 than you are now i um think
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that my mindset should stay the same i think maybe for a 41 year old can i compare myself to someone
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who's 25 no at 41 versus fades or whatever yeah at 31 well you said you're more physically attractive
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now at 31 versus at when you were 21 yes yes and you'll be more do you think you'll be more
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physically attractive in 10 years at 41 versus now at 31. um well i think as we age you know like
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our physical beauty does decrease you know so when i'm 41 i mean i hope to be a hot 41 year old am i
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going to be as like youthful and like whatever as i am now i don't know probably not to be honest but
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i still think my internal like posturing should be i'm a 10 i'm a bad bitch you know this is one of
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the few things you've said on this podcast that we can absolutely agree on on the last podcast on
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the last last podcast i i did with brian i said that it's really important for women to cultivate
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that inner beauty and i can tell that's something that you've worked on and it's something that
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you're intentional about and i i salute you for that thank you you know there's there's especially
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we live in a world where there's a lot of women out there that are filled with insecurity and
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self-loathing i think those are just objectively speaking those aren't attractive traits yeah i don't
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think delusional self-confidence is good but i think i think healthy self-confidence is very
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attractive and uh you know i salute that it's it's a good trait to develop thank you and it does it as
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you know i made this point on the last podcast as a woman cultivates that inner beauty and also
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that inner femininity that does also make her more beautiful externally so i agree with you on that
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yeah and just kind of i guess to land the plane on what i was saying before so if i had to distill
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down one of the primary issues in dating that i see so women want the best man that they can get
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women will confuse sexual attraction for relationship attraction so men will sleep with women who they
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would never have a relationship with just solely based on the metric of looks so a woman can sleep
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with a guy who's out of her league in term of in terms of looks status etc money um that guy's never
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going to commit to her so if you start women can sleep up but you probably aren't going to like
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marry up so if you think you're a 10 like i think it's important to be based in reality when it comes
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to your own self-assessment of your physical appearance because if you think you're hot
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shit and let's say you're not you're going to be chasing after dudes who will gladly sleep with you
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who are really attractive guys who make a lot of money who have high status these men will never
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give you the ring that's why you have women who are trapped in situationships with dudes who will
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never give you commitment that's why i think it's very important to have a accurate self-assessment
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of your own attractiveness your own physical attractiveness in the dating marketplace that way you
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know here's the guy who i think i can realistically get a relationship from because men will gladly sleep with
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you keep you on the the back burner just string you along sleep with you uh they'll never give you
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commitment and that's why i think it's important that that both men and women are aware of where
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they stand in the uh sexual marketplace the dating marketplace so your league is the men who will marry
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you not the men who will sleep with you and as women typically i think women
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you'll break a rule to sleep with a guy he has to be you'll break your rule like for sleeping with
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a guy quick if he's really physically attractive whereas men it tends to be the reverse so men will
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sleep with women of a let's say men will sleep with women that they would never be in a relationship with
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they'll sleep with you but just based on your looks alone they would never be in a relationship with
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you whereas i think it's typically the it's the reverse for women in order for you to sleep with
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a guy he needs to be at least physically attractive enough for you to be in a relationship with him
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so anyways i know you guys have to go so thank you very much for coming is that gang signs hi oh
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dope oh body count nice meeting you guys wait really quick do you guys does body count matter
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what do you mean do you think like do you object do you object to men caring about a woman's body count
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i think here i'm gonna do i'm gonna rearrange the seating here nice to meet you guys thank you guys
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for coming drive safe so here i'm gonna just y'all are just gonna move down this way scuffed that one
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nah just leave it on for now i mean maybe we'll do it we're
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yeah no all the way down all the way down like 20 30 minutes i need to get through some of my notes
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yeah you scoot down right here and then i'm gonna adjust the cameras um
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damn i had so many i'm like so behind on notes i'm gonna read some chats guys i'm gonna read wait
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uh hold on no you sorry you go that way can you guys just like good
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yeah there and then can you go can you go over there i guess
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okay guys i'm gonna do a couple chats travola oh wait
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all right let me get these chats here hold on guys
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uh if you rate yourself raven dt donated 100 if you rate yourself for 10 out of 10 in your
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physical appearance it automatically makes you a zero hubris and vanity are unbecoming true
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confidence is accepting that you are a six and working on your personality so you can compensate
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appropriately raven dt well well put well put all right hold on we got some more coming in here one
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sec guys i'm not gonna pause these anymore by the way guys so it'll just come to underscore 10s
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underscore him underscore three donated 99 dollars i think her cute but girl one her fashion is really
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bad and they can hear and earrings scream dollar store a rocking ethiopian cleavage long and flat
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relative to other women objectively you're a five and with bettum cup plus clothes a six
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i'm sure they're still in the studio i'm sure you're still in the studio oh wow okay she says you're
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saint underscore easy donated 99 dollars women know when they are attractive guys are shameless when it
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comes to showing interest women generally speaking will rarely let a guy know he is the
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shit hmm saint reason thank you very much man appreciate it
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sorry they had to leave i'm sorry for all these chats addressed
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modest people were donated 101 dollars imagine thinking you are a 10 if you were a 10
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you would be so far taken if you think your looks are 10 that's wrong if they were your personality
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takes you to a three time to leave three hundred and four bricks and w i'm sorry that we that a lot
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of these were directed at the girls who left but um it's not there's no pause anymore with the tts so we're
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full steam ahead all right um let's see i had some notes here one sec guys so we had
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not michelle kylie finally getting to kylie okay at the very fucking end of the show we got we had a lot
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of chats and stuff so uh you were in oh i need to adjust the uh camera angles here fuck uh i'll wait
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till uh chase gets back i guess uh you were in a relationship currently it's complicated with the same
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person but then oh that's when you first reach out but now you're single yeah the things changed since
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the first tilt the mic up towards you a little bit here scoot your mic closer to you please
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yeah good yeah yeah we're good uh you said you have a super terrible dating story about the first
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guy you ever loved why don't you tell us that story okay um where do i start okay i met him at a
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christmas tree lot um i pretty much fell in love with him instantly he
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led me on completely broke my heart was a he was addicted to drugs um yeah um but pretty much was
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like messing around with me the whole time and then seeing his ex-girlfriend behind my back um so
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basically what happened was he he fucked me over pretty pretty gnarly but um
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i mean you said that you were 19 you fell in love instantly correct pretty much i would say um you said you
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were 19 and newly sober yeah so when i was when i was 19 um i stopped everything i didn't drink i
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didn't really do drugs to be honest but i stopped drinking completely um didn't do drugs and
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yeah so i had met him pretty like fresh sober yeah so so you had but where did you like were you
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previously heavily drinking i wouldn't say really heavily it was just kind of something that needed
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to happen like i like i don't think drinking really benefits like it didn't really benefit my life so
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yeah and you said literally the moment you shook his hand and introduced yourself you had insane
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butterflies yeah i remember that okay um what was it about him that gave you the butterflies
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he was very very very confident okay and he went he was pretty short too he was about five six i'll
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tell you five six okay so same high yeah okay but he's really confident was he good looking a lot of
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tattoos charisma no tattoos no he might have had like one but um
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he i i wouldn't call him insanely good looking okay it was more he's super confident yes he had a
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an amazing personality um but looks wise he was not definitely like average yeah he was average
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but you said you had insane butterflies you had insane butterflies for him yes this was when you're
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19 and you're held again now 20 25 25 okay um have you felt that level of butterflies for any other guy no
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okay um you say here the cat what is the catch for this guy the catch what was the catch he didn't
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he didn't let me back so huh he did not no but there's more um i'm trying to remember what oh oh i remember
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and then i found out that he was in jail so i went to go see him
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pretty much knowing that he wasn't as into me as i was into him here let me i'll try to help out
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here but you said the whole time the catch is this dude the whole time was a meth and heroin addict
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oh yeah and secretly seeing his ex-girlfriend the entire time he was whoa okay those are some pretty
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big red flags um and you said the big thing that attracted you to him was his confidence
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you're talking like the heroin meth confidence it's the heroin chic the heroin meth charisma um
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you said we were never never officially together but we're doing all relationship things yes so when
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you say doing all the relationship things do you mean administering narcan i never had to do that for
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him that's horrible what is what is i don't even know what that means someone's oding on fentanyl
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it's like what you administer to damn yeah no but so when you say doing all the relationships what
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do you mean besides yeah dates sex pda like okay situationship how long were you dating him
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so um i would say there was like a six month period he kind of dropped off the face of the earth for
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a little bit came back and then started seeing him again so total i would say probably somewhere
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about a year or a year and a half but but there was like see i don't even know how accurate that
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is because there was like a break in between there sure yeah okay wait did you know that he
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was into drugs when you started dating no i had no clue but then why did you continue after you knew
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um because i was in love so stupid in love with him oh it was i was i look back on it now and i like
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i i know it was stupid i would never do that now but um in the time i was super young so i'm 25 now but
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i was super young and i just kind of let my feelings take me and i think you probably are like i know like
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women or men or whatever you think that people are going to change like if you have a conversation
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with them you think like okay now i've had this conversation with them they understand now they'll
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change right wait so okay how long were you dating him uh it was i'd say somewhere around a year but
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it was like split up there were it's on again off again kind of it was split up you said because he
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was in jail or so i was seeing him and then he he went to jail was still seeing him so that was
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like a six month period then he literally dropped off the face of the earth like i just don't know
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where he went right so that was about six months and then he showed back up and then i'd say probably
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like another six months so it was like six months together he ghosted you i guess he went to jail
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then dated another six months okay were you seeing other guys during that break like did you date other
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men i think i tried but you were still caught up on feelings yeah it took me a really long time um how
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early on into the relationship did you find out that he was a meth and heroin addict
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maybe can you move that mic over please your no no not you you move over the mic go ahead
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i want to say a couple months okay and that wasn't like a deal breaker red flag for you i knew it was
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but i didn't care you didn't care why because you were in love with him yeah okay um
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so you said in your pre-show notes you weren't aware of the drug use in the beginning and there
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was this one time on halloween six years ago that you picked up his really sketchy friend
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in laguna niguel where we were driving and all of a sudden the friend who was in your back seat
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does what so he unwraps a piece of foil and starts just randomly smoking can we say heroin yeah yeah
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okay i didn't know if there was go ahead so he just started smoking heroin in the back of my car
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and i didn't know what to do so i didn't say anything um how early on in the relationship was
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that this was a few months this was before the ghost or whatever yeah this was before that okay yeah um
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and so you said you were in so much shock you couldn't even say anything
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uh then your boyfriend's guy whatever grabs the drugs from him and smokes it too yes
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okay so he looks at me disrespects me and it's like i'm gonna do it anyway can you get like you
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know how you can hot box can you get like a contact thing probably yeah while you're driving that's a
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not even more um that's you were driving you were driving i was driving yeah for how long after the
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whole heroin in the car incident did you stay with him i honestly don't think it was much longer after
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that well no but but you said okay you said it was before he went he ghosted you so you said you were
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with him for six months and then there was the break and then you dated him for another six months
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after he got out of prison or jail or something so it was so long ago that i it's the timeline is a
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little that's that's fine but you so it was before the jail incident that the car in heroin incident
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occurred i actually don't i don't remember if the car incident was before or after jail okay but
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how long did you stay with him after that incident the heroin in the car incident we'll call it i want
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to say maybe another couple months and that wasn't like the immediate no dude because i gave him like
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the hey that can never happen again you know like i talked to him about it and okay um i mean that that
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exact well that exact situation never happened again you know but then it was other things um
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okay but also it's like this guy was never he really was never my boyfriend it was sure it was
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more just like even worse i know right i know it's even worse he wasn't even loyal to you correct
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okay um you said he ended up in jail and then eventually prison um the first time he ended up in jail he
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dropped off the face of the earth so i did some investigating and found out that he was indeed in jail
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had to use the chick fbi skills anyway i went to visit him you went to visit him in jail yes okay
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and you had your first ever jail visitation for a boyfriend that was it conjugal no i don't think
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you can do conjugals what's that it's like you can they in person you can like they give you a little
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house or something in the jail that's only for married people it's you got to be married yeah um
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uh oh but okay so you visited him in jail since you visited him in jail uh you noticed you indeed
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have a type crying laughing emoji yeah uh you broke it off eventually because he was a piece of
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shit you said you've noticed you indeed have a type what is your type it's uh definitely what i said
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earlier i definitely like well it now is different than it was but i like the reformed bad boy compared
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to what was then just the bad boy yeah because like the bad boy is just gonna get you in trouble
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and fuck you over right you're not gonna end up with that person in the end most likely um but
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i mean honestly like my my type is someone who has been through things like that but has overcome
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so maybe not currently in like it doesn't have to be drugs it could just be like any hardship okay so
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but so your type is past prison sentences i i do like prison dudes not gonna lie
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you do like why i'm just curious like why what about them is attractive so i find and i don't do this
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on purpose but i find a lot of them are very organized very kind to women they're very chivalrous
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they're clean as fuck but i feel like there are non-prison guys that are just like that
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sorry what'd you say oh i i feel like like there's a lot of guys out there that didn't go to prison
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that's like clean and neat and treats women really nicely there are i i don't i don't know i'm just
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telling you what happens what i am attracted to um it's you have hebristophilia what's that that's the
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phenomenon of an individual being sexually aroused by a criminal offender oh goodness modest hikima
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donated 101 dollars brixton plaza tell us which girls you want to have backslash forth with during reg
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show so we don't interrupt with tts when total bore forcing to pause jackie python is a virus agree or
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disagree same w slash aws all hail master bezos and pitch a you're welcome uh i i i actually don't
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mind python but i use a lot of java all right there you have it um yeah so hold on let me clear that
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chase do you want to rejoin the yes all right you you said you think modern dating is horrendous and
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difficult women don't respect themselves and men are unfaithful or so it seems that way so how do
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women not respect themselves um and how is modern dating horrendous and difficult do you think it might
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be go ahead go ahead you're gonna roast me are you um well you see it i i imagine you like pass up
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opportunities with good men because you're like attracted to these guys who you said you're you
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you your type is men who have a history of incarceration not not all of them just
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it seems to be the case that most of the men you date are were previously incarcerated
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i've only really dated like a few like like less than a handful of people raven dt donated 100
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find yourself an older military man if you want an organized man the military is a lot like prison
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except they volunteered to go and they are building a real career become a tricharer tops don't date
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anyone below e6 though those guys are f boys oh it's honestly good advice those guys are f boys how
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many dudes have you dated that have been to prison you said a handful well no i've only dated
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less than a handful of guys oh okay how many of them have been to prison
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if we're counting the the first guy then one two three four five two two it's two okay well you said
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but you said your type is i've noticed i indeed have a type it's because i i i look at guys like that
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i'm like oh he's he's hot he looks like he went to jail these girls and their bad boy tendencies no no no no but
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i don't let me in i'm not i'm not about prison guys or anything but well you said you date bad boys
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um so you you say modern dating is horrendous and difficult don't you think you might be
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making making it difficult for yourself it needs to be by dating these types of men yeah
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i think okay my own but like choice you have agency you have choice but i will tell you um
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my longest relationship he went to prison he was the most amazing guy wait like ever like i mean
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wait is this the meth the meth no no no different different prison guy yeah we were together for
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like three and a half years yeah um what did he go to what drugs was it drugs for him too or uh he he
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he had a history of drug use yeah okay um yeah uh okay but he's a like the most stand-up individual
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sure yeah you can turn your life around absolutely yeah he was on that for sure
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but like it seems like specifically going after these men and disregarding other men who perhaps
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don't have that kind of history seems to be a bit self-sabotaging i don't specifically go after
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them i just find myself attracted to guys like that but i would be open to way more than that
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because i know that there's other kinds of guys out there i'm just saying that that i see a dude is
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it like is it the dangerous vibe like is it that there's like a hint of danger not necessarily towards
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you but you know that they're like they're bad men like they're not necessarily morally bad
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because i don't like them like when they're in the doing the bad stuff i i don't i don't like that
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she likes the reformed version is it is it like kind of like the lawless cowboy vibe that you like
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like there's a little bit of danger there you know like what what is it probably a little bit yeah yeah
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i think that guy's advice to go for military men is honestly really good advice i would agree my
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grandpa was a military guy and him and my grandma were married for over 60 years so wow yeah you should
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totally go for like military dudes not under e6 like that guy said but yeah don't make my mistakes yeah
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are you in general okay with drugs with guys i don't like i don't like drugs or alcohol you like
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tatted guys um sure but i also like not tattooed guys as well when you see a guy with tattoos does
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it like signal something to you like yo this guy might be a little dangerous no because you can also
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have certain kinds of tattoos that make you very not attractive so just because you have tattoos doesn't
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mean like what what kind of tattoos make a guy i'll tell you and i'm so sorry if anybody has these
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tattoos but um a dude a dude with a lion roses black and gray roses and a compass or or a wolf have you
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had like specific experiences with guys with those tattoos or do you just generally find those specific
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tattoos unattractive well i i i'm an artist so i do these for a living and so you see like a certain
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type of personality that comes in through the doors that gets these tattoos that's the weirdest thing
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okay i don't know what is that kind of personality um well i'll just call it not my not my thing
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what is it what is it i don't even know how to explain it um i would just say like super
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fuck boyish maybe okay or maybe maybe that and then um you're you're nodding your head in agreement
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have you experienced the same vibe with dudes with those tattoos so the one that got the other
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girl pregnant and all that he had a compass tattoo right here and i'm not sure if he had a line i don't
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think he did but i always thought it was the most attractive thing in the world and then i saw his
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brother get it because i was close with his brother because his brother did nothing wrong
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and then once his brother got it he turned it was i was like wait so his brother got the tattoo and
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then turned bad he turned into a different vibe for me he always used to be that like innocent like
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he got a compass tattoo he got the compass tattoo and then it all just went downhill for him
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interesting what is it with i will always i will always love him because he's he was like a little
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brother to me but like no not anymore okay i'm trying to think if i know anyone with compass tattoos
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it's such a strange it's weird as soon as she said compass i was like oh no no
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you want to keep rolling brian yeah hold on i had to adjust the cameras there although probably yeah um
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you said that there's a very apparent hookup culture and absolute hoflation going on so what
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what is hoflation um i think where meaningless hookups and sex are glorified and
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i just see i mean like that kind of stuff was going on when i was a when i was a teenager so like
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10 years ago ish it was still a thing so it seems to be consistent um but i don't think
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okay and then i think the last thing here let's see oh it well we had so many notes i think i'll
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scratch the there's like so many points i could i wrote down but i don't know if we have time
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we have any super chats no super chats uh i did want it seemed like you
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pushed back quite a bit on the body count thing so it sounded like do you object to men caring about
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body count and we'll go around the table on this absolutely absolutely okay what about you i think
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you have a right to care if you want to care sure um i mean you can care if you want but everybody has
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a past and people overcome their issues so okay so do you do you object to men having that preference
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like low body count in women i mean everybody has their own preference so i don't object okay
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well do you think it's insecure or immature hold on saint underscore easy donated 99
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women don't like guys that are good for them or guys on a fixed income tell a girl you're not good
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for her she will think it's sexy do you think it's insecure or immature to care about body count i don't i
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mean i grew up in a very christian household um so i mean unfortunately i'm not a virgin so um i can't
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give that to my future husband but i i wouldn't be upset if like i was no i do not object because that's
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what i also look for in a guy i think guys have the right to care okay so do you why why do you object
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to it to men caring about body count why do you think it's insecure you shouldn't judge on the past
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what do you why yeah i guess i i think that's what i'm more so lean towards is that you're condemning
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someone for their past and you're not letting them grow or change or be who the person that they are now
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and to condemn someone for their past is just dumb like like you know like you don't you just i just
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think that's dumb you think it's dumb yeah to condemn someone for their past or for their past
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choices like you should like people can change and people can be someone completely different than who
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they were and you don't know if that was like a phase when they were like okay so when it comes to
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this whole it's in the past argument we shouldn't judge people on their past let's not act like when it
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comes to dating that men are these judgmental pricks and women are for benevolent forgivers of all
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women are extremely discerning when it comes to who they date women are picker than men women are
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more selective than men women disqualify men for numerous reasons so i guess why is it okay then for
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women to have preferences standards and boundaries but men are not i guess it depends on like what like
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what kind of like i don't know like well sorry go ahead go ahead no go ahead well when we went went
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around the table did you say remind me did you say you would date a virgin yeah you would did you say
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it wasn't sex was teachable so okay that's fair that's okay well that's fair then um what about i
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forgot about you guys but okay don't know well i would argue though that a lot of women who would
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say well we shouldn't judge people on their past a lot of women would also judge a man on his
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past lack of sexual experience a lot of women like we had multiple women here say they wouldn't date a
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virgin yeah i don't know i don't know their get down but like for me it's like even i'm not gonna talk
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about that but like uh i've definitely taught people like like gotten into a relationship
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with somebody and like they're not the best at sex and then i teach them exactly what i like
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they can learn girl number two fuck boy is considered a slur as far as i'm aware as i'm not
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allowed to say it without it being hate speech even in an extremely right state utah are you homophobic
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you describe tattoos of lions roses compass wolves as being is did you say because it is i said
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fuck boy did you say fuck boy or something else i said fuck boy that got to him i think he probably
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has the other f word maybe um yeah and is somebody tapping on the ground just please don't tap on our
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ground we have the sorry yeah um so so you object like if i preferred a girl who has a low body count
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you object to that it depends on what do you mean by low body count like if you're saying like
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yeah that's ridiculous three to five three to five is ridiculous why is that ridiculous because how old
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is the girl that you're looking for it doesn't matter it i mean like what world do you live in that
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you think that you're gonna find like there i hear from 30 year old virgin women all the time
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i don't believe them oh you don't believe that a 30 year old could be i mean look some women do lie
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about that but there there are older like older women who are virgins there's women with religious
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convictions there's women who just choose not to sleep around why have they not found if they have
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like these religious convictions or if they're so like such saints why aren't they married and like
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you know what i mean like how are you single well so that's a different that's a different
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question we've gone from whether or not the women exist to now why are you still a virgin like some
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people just choose not to have sex they view it as a sacred thing and they don't want to sleep with
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people unless they're serious with them i know but why wouldn't they find that person then those people
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i get like i i know a lot of people like that like because i have family down in alabama but they get
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they get married when they're like 18 they get married when they're 20 and then like they they're
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banging their husband you know what i mean it's not like they're waiting until they're 30 and they're like
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i'm still a virgin like come on what 30 year old virgin that's like being a 40 year old virgin
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i mean sometimes they're socially awkward women that haven't found the right guy sometimes they're
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women with very high high standards that haven't found the right guy for any number of reasons like
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it's somebody could ask the same question of you why haven't you found the right guy you're 33 years
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old like i'm not a virgin it's the same i know but it's it's the same thing like why didn't those women
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find the right guy i've wanted to find the right guy like neither party did but to say that it's
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ridiculous for a man to prefer that is ridiculous i i think i think three to five is ridiculous like
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for me like it's just so ridiculous i can guarantee that both of you guys have way more than three to
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five bodies she belongs to the streets no way more i guarantee mine's not much higher i wanted to ask
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you a question if i may what's up is it related but go ahead what's up it's related to sex okay so
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like i said i've been watching the podcast right for a while so i was following your story when you
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were celibate for a very long time and then you met a lady that took that period of celibacy away
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from you and i wanted to ask you if you were still with her it's private information okay i'm just
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curious bringing you back to body count though so you think it's crazy to think like three to five yeah i
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mean it depends how old are you talking here i mean what do you mean how old am i how like about
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what what woman what's what's her age why why does it matter because if you're talking about an 18 year
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old sure yes okay obviously someone who's a bit older she's had more relationship experience she
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might have a higher body count right yeah if you're talking about a sure year old like three to five is
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just i don't know for me i it's just so ridiculous well okay here we'll go around the table i want to go
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around the table on this um so i forgot everyone's individual answers on this well okay if body count
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doesn't matter right body count does matter shouldn't matter it does to many men yes no i'm saying i'm not
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saying it it doesn't matter because like if you have like hundreds like okay come on bro like or like
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50 like there gets to a point where it's a little excessive right but three to five like
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no i don't think three i didn't say three to five is high i didn't say three to five is high
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but you said like three to five you think that's insane for a girl to have a three to five body count
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yeah someone said that am i pulling that out of air i think what am i pulling out of thin air i thought
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one of you guys said three to five is a desirable no three to five was like too much oh or maybe i
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i see what you're saying i haven't i see what you're saying maybe i just pulled that i don't
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know i see what you're saying okay i mean there's there are i will say there are many men out there
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who you know it's a saying on the internet all the time no hymen no diamond like there are many men
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out there who prefer virgins now obviously that's hard to find particularly at 30 years old but like
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many men out there do not want to be with a woman who slept with a bunch of guys where are they
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from like these are just normal dudes throughout all of america and the western world abdul yeah get the
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rocks get the rocks you say where are they from but you have to realize this has been the
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preference of men throughout all of human history
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i guess i guess i i think that now not all men i will add not all men some men don't really care
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that much i would say a majority of men don't care i would say the majority of men that i know
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absolutely do care well that's a different community it's not i mean yeah i'm not friends
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with like a bunch of leftists for example but like the majority of dudes i know who even aren't
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particularly political like they yes across the board generally speaking prefer women with lower
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body counts yeah and i mean i mean that's fine i mean like i i don't have like an astronomically
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high body count it's just like i i don't like i feel like that's such an ongoing argument with men
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and like body counts and i think it just like triggers me because it goes back to like what i was
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talking about before about just like that grid one motorsports donated 100 body count matters my body
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count is high my wife's was low i was 34 when we met and she was 23 i do not feel like i am a
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particularly uncommon my body count did not matter to her although she has over the years teased me
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about it while i did care there we go so thank you grid one appreciate it yeah thank you very much
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because you just led me right into what i was going to say is that it like it's such a double
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standard where it's like men and i don't like that and i think it like it just triggers me because like
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that just gets under my skin it's like who the f are you to tell me or judge me on my body count
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when your body count is probably 10 times higher than mine like who who the hell it's just like it just
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bugs me and triggers me because it's like it's just crazy to me like how how do you think you're in any
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position to judge when well you know i'll definitely not you and not you personally i just mean in
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general i think i i personally find it ridiculous when dudes that have slept with hundreds of women
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like judge women super harshly over it but also at the same time you know one of the things that we've
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talked about on the show many times is yes there's a double standard but it exists for a reason and that
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reason is look i mean you could go out tonight and find a hundred dudes that would want to sleep with
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you you're a pretty woman got good energy guarantee you could get laid by a hundred different guys
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throughout the city for guys it's a totally different story it's a totally different story
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i'm like i'm i'm a decently good looking guy compared to the average i don't think i'm like
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an ultra giga chad but like even for a guy like me like it's the number of women that i could sleep
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with compared to the number of men that you could sleep with it's a huge differential and the reason why
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there is a double standard is because if a woman wants to rack up a very high body count like if a
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woman wants to sleep with a hundred guys all she has to do is open her legs if a guy wants to sleep
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with a hundred women he has to become an absolute stud in order to do so now that doesn't mean that
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it's okay for him to do so i i don't i totally disagree with men sleeping with tons of women i think
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it's bad for society i also think it's bad for society for women to sleep with a lot of men
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but the reason why the double standard exists is because it's very easy for women to get sex
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it's much more difficult for for men to get sex and it's i said earlier in the show that one of the
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signs of a high value woman is a woman who can say no right if a woman can can say no to men that
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shows that she can express discretion she has self-control she has self-discipline and those
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are desirable traits in a mate right a lot of women you know women women like guys that are desired by
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many other women you know like and and one of the reasons why it's judged less less harshly towards men
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is because if a woman if if a guy has a ton of options and he's slept with a lot of women and
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he's like an absolute stud and he decides that he likes you like women will often overlook it because
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they're like wow this guy could have like any woman he wants and he's choosing me and so it gets judged
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less harshly right but guys look at it differently because it's like well you could sleep with like
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any man on the planet if you wanted to and if you have done so it's like that's not good but if you have
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chosen not to especially from like a partnership and marriage perspective if a woman is able to say
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no that's a green flag right if a woman can't say no or she won't say no then it's a red flag because
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it's like we were talking about earlier in the show it's like you have to ensure paternity like
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i as a guy there's like biological mechanisms in my mind where i'm like okay i want to make sure that
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you're going to be saying no to other guys in marriage or you know if a woman has a high body
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count it begs the question are you the type of person who you know if a guy gives you the feels
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are you just going to sleep with him right off the bat could i trust that you wouldn't cheat on me in
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marriage like that's it's like i don't even think people really consciously think about it but that's
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kind of what's driving the thought process and it's you know if a woman has slept with like 150 guys
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or something like that it's like whoa red flag that's dangerous she might sleep around while we're
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married so on and so forth like undesirable in that sense does that make sense okay so that's
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why there's a double standard there now i'm not saying that like again it's good for men to sleep
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with a lot of women i don't think it is i don't think it's good for either sex to have a lot of
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partners yeah but that's why the double standard exists yeah i just feel like it's one of those
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things that men is like like men just constantly like that's like their life modest hikima donated 101
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dollars angry feminist angry because biology do i agree with her kinder but also like read a
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biology book about animals not humans and then read a book about human animals knowledge is wild
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okay yeah thank you for those good go ahead do you want to respond did you i forgot what i was
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going to say well i mean just to address the double standard thing so i i think it would be a double
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standard if for example i didn't think it was okay for women to care about body count i absolutely think
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i don't if a woman doesn't want to date a guy with a high body count that's totally fine i think that's
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where the double standard is now i see what you're saying about this double standard where
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men are to some degree revered if they can sleep with a lot of women and women are shamed for it
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chase already kind of pretty much addressed that i mean i would say that it really comes down to most
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women can sleep with most men most men cannot sleep with most women yes ergo it's to some degree
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like chase said a guy has to bring something to the table he has to be impressive in some way he has to
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be a stud in order to sleep with a ton of like a ton of women whereas the reverse it's very easy
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for women any girl here at this table could be a slut if she wanted to yeah you could just
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like we've had like any woman could be like an insane sex addict but like we we had a show with
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a girl who she was a sex addict she slept with five guys in a day in order for a guy to sleep with
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five women in a day he has to be like so insanely fucking attractive these were new guys by the way
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and she's doing this every single night for like a weeks on end was my understanding you need to be
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like drake you need to be the top top top tier professional athlete you need to be a famous musician
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famous actor if you want to sleep with that many women that's the difference sports so it's not
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respected um to add to what chase is saying when i was young i slept around because i could but
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chose women that i knew were not wife potential if they were going to give me sex i was certainly not
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going to turn it down however they had zero relationship potential yep there you have it
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sorry go ahead no go ahead so you're a guy you're trying to tell me that your guys's inboxes or
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your dms are not flooded with messages you couldn't go out and bang 50 chicks tonight if you wanted to
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no no i mean no i got a lot of girls great chase chase is a chat i'm sure you both do huh i'm sure
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you both do from like you know i have but look we're on a freaking super viral dating podcast like
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we're extreme outliers in the population before doing this no i did not have a bunch of women
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that were in my dms all the time you know like now yes there's a decent amount of chicks in my dms
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i won't lie but the point that's not like an own though that's not an own because like we can take
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an average woman who's 19 years old who has a thousand followers on instagram who goes to college
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she's getting the equivalent amount of sexual attention or well she's getting dms that is reserved
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for guys with like substantial social media followings like average 19 year old dudes in
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college are not getting dm'd by girls getting offers to be flown out and getting sugar sugar mama offers
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that doesn't exist it's it's it's actually crazy like there's 19 year old girls from here in the
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area that have come on the show and they've got like five ten thousand followers on instagram
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getting dms from like football players and rappers and like all this kind of stuff and ultimately what
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it's if like brian was saying if if you guys want to sleep with a ton of men that's very easy to do so
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and i think i think where the judgment comes from is it's like if a woman you know you've been with
05:40:33.760
guys that like you've liked and you've been attracted to and so on and so forth and some
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of those guys have been like bad choices for you you know and the thing the thing that's going to
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really impress a man who cares about your past is if he's going to see okay you were in positions
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of temptation and you chose to exercise self-control and you knew your value and your worth and you were
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not going to give yourself to men who didn't deserve you right because a lot of women one of the
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things that i've noticed about about women and kind of female psychology is a lot of women
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you know the body count thing is interesting because there's women out there who just like
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they're horny and they want to have sex like i met a ton of girls like that here in isla
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vista when i was in college like there were so many girls in my dorm complex they just they
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wanted to go get laid did you go to ucs3 no i went to city college but i lived at one of the
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dorms here in isla vista and there were all these girls there that just like you know they just
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wanted to go get laid you know sometimes or oftentimes i think women will give sex in order
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to get love and they will give so you guys agree with that a lot of times given women will give sex
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to men who do not deserve them or their sex right like women will give themselves to men who are not
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good men they don't deserve those women but women crave love and so they'll give their bodies to bad men
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and then they'll get burned and oftentimes this will result in like an unhealthy pattern where
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it'll repeat over and over and over again and i think a lot of women will rack up higher body
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counts because of this pattern right which is why i've suggested hey like you know filter the bad guys
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by not having sex with them right off the bat you'll be able to tell who actually likes you for you
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and part of the reason why that judgment is there and why it's a red flag for men is because it's
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i mean speaking from personal experience it's like if a woman has a high body count it's like
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are you able to exercise self-control it's easy for you to have sex or are you able to turn things
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down even if you feel an emotional pull does that make sense yeah do you think if a girl has a high
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body count that she lacks that control too i think i don't necessarily think like it's a guarantee that
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she lacks that control but i think it begs the question does she have it you know because if a woman's
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a virgin let's say there's a really attractive woman and she's a virgin right you know that woman
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has self-control you know damn well that that woman is like there's probably a bunch of guys if
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let's say a girl's super hot and she's a virgin you know there's a bunch of guys throwing themselves at
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her and she's shooting them down you know that woman has self-control you don't necessarily know
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that a woman doesn't have self-control if she has a high body count but it is a good guarantee that
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she doesn't have good judgment when it comes to guys and it begs the question is she a slave to her
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emotions or can she govern her actions does that make sense yeah and it goes back to the paternity
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thing that brian was talking about earlier we have a biological need and a biological drive to ensure
05:43:28.000
our paternity because like if i marry a woman and i sleep with her but she also sleeps with another
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man and she cheats on me and then he gets her pregnant like i would be screwed raising that guy's
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kid if i didn't know that it wasn't my own right we want to avoid that yeah i feel like if i was a man
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i would get a dna test no matter what like i'm getting a dna test you know what i mean like that
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would be like my first thing as a man like if a girl was like i'm pregnant i'd be like okay dna test and
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then we'll go from there yeah i think if you trust a woman and her character it's not necessary
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like i don't even want to be with a woman where that would be a question in my mind yeah no definitely
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yeah and i think yeah and i think like body counts just frustrating for me because it's like i'm
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literally like so loyal like if i'm in a relationship with you i'm like the most loyal person ever and
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then it's like i don't know like well and i think on top of that too part of the reason why it's
05:44:15.900
probably frustrating for you is because you're like okay i can't go back in time and change my
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mistakes like yeah what's done is done i think all you can do moving forward is change your your
05:44:26.280
future actions yeah you know what i'm saying which is why i've been like harping so much like yo
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filter guys better yeah you know filter guys better because what you don't want is to get into a
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relationship with the wrong kind of guy and then have him waste half your 30s and then you're
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screwed at the end of your 30s what'd you say i said i already did that yeah like you don't have time
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to waste you know yeah i think all you can do is just like i i would recommend change your
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behaviors start filtering guys better and just pray to god for the man that he created for you
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yeah you know so the question which now must be a ribbon at if body count matters what is your body
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count can i ask you what you think a high body count is just answer the question oh no just answer
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15 okay do not multiply that by three because multiply by three she watches the show she watches
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the show what about you i am not going to disclose my body count at no range range i'm not giving you
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range what the heck i didn't know i didn't know there was an option just do it don't let your dreams
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be dreams yesterday you said tomorrow so just do it make your dreams come true just do it
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to just has shia motivated you no i love shia probably like 15 15 okay zero
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i don't want to say because it's kind of embarrassing no it's not why is it embarrassing
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because it's too low or too high into the mic oh no because i i don't mind don't feel comfortable
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saying oh i see okay i did not know there was an option to opt out
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i know and no one ever opts out look i can't force somebody to if you don't feel comfortable to say
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anything you're not going to be like why did you come on dating show if you didn't want to take
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your body count i haven't i've never done that never done that that's a different one i've never
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said that uh these girls did their research apparently she did i didn't sorry multiply it
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by three and that's the real number no that's not true wait you said 15 i said five no you didn't
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five times three is 15 so five oh god help us and you said 15 ish ish ish again okay the
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i just didn't want to put the ish there but it's i'll say 15 to 20 oh 15 to 20 yeah okay i'm not
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going to explain you have any brothers i am actually an only child okay yeah okay uh from a single mom
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i i was screwed from the beginning it's fine 15 to 15 to 20 so what is it is it 15 is it 20 yeah
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oh like you're not you're just not quite sure uh i'm not gonna i'm not gonna disclose the
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reasonings why the heck i would to be honest with you if 15 is true it's not like astronomically high
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i know that's what i was saying before i was like it's not my number is not like there's there's a lot
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of guys that like wouldn't like be like oh my god you're ruined for life now if you had said like
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70 or 80 that's crazy who's walking around with 70 bodies i should have totally just been dramatic
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and been like 200 there's there's there are people walking around are you in the 70s range brian
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i do not disclose this oh wait so you make us disclose what you want that's the name of the game
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that's that's not how that works that's not how that works uh well i guess it is how it works
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all right we have oh my god bro i can't um guarantee the morbidly obese woman's dms are just
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just as full as chases dms let that sink in women look at what he looks like like look at you you are
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so ugly like who are you to call anyone look at your face okay first off i love how everybody's
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taking offense to this but me i know damn well i have no one in here i really don't i don't care
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honestly your last travola if you want to fire back i'm gonna wrap up the show here pretty soon
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curtis leone amazon girl x86 assembly it allows you to do any programming functionality prison girl
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brian is a hypothetical prison inmate so huh chase i'm not a religious person but a lot of the values
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you present are spot on with any man great values much love brother thanks for the super chat
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curtis appreciate it can i ask you guys a question go ahead what's up what is what how high is too high
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for you guys like what would you count just just give me an average it's hard i mean i'm a i'm a just
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man i believe in redemption oh god that's all but however you know look uh
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modest hikima donated 101 dna test no matter what is seen as misogynistic when asked for by the father
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why girl number one did she say respect for sharing body counts not very high all things
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considered jackie please know you can move from w and work remote 100 for higher dollar
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word thank you wait did you say it was misogynistic he said dna test no matter what
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is going to look as misogynistic if you ask that i feel like i feel like a lot of women if you ask them
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right off the bat to just do a dna test particularly if you're married do them
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yeah that's like extreme offense that's like a fight waiting to happen that's like a huge fight
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that's like you're sleeping on the couch you're actually just sleeping in your car like like if
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you trust your woman and she trusts you and you're like yo i need you to do a dna test she's gonna be
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like what yeah i mean it better be a joke i mean if i was i'll give you a moment to joke but
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nickelodeon says the question was total body count not in one day platoon
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booper also i was trying to be nice not calling her name but please ask
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kim chunk eel to answer my nationalism question what was his question did your boyfriend radicalize
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you on nationalism no he's a nationalist he's like a christian nationalist oh based
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yeah he's like america first the girl with the griper boyfriend yeah yeah oh okay nice
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wait sorry so what were you saying you were you were gonna ask this question but then the tts came
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in oh what was two what's too high of a body count yeah the lower the better okay okay ballpark it
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the lower the better shout out to my christian nationalist let's go i mean double digit i start
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doing an eyebrow raise once it gets into double digit territory um same major eyebrow raise more than 20
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major eyebrow raise like more than 30 that's i mean again though
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very strong preference for like low low low body count as low as possible brian what is your body
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count not revealing that he's not going to not revealing what is your body count i've said in
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the past it's eight really you have said in the past you're right yeah you watched the last episode
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i don't reveal i didn't watch the last episode oh shit or did i we're watching on the way home
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my so i'll give you the answer that i've given in the past i was i think the first episode i ever did
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some girl was like i i said my limit is my own body count oh and then i said that i would prefer a
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virgin and then some girl that was on the panel was like okay but what if you met like a really amazing
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girl but hers was higher than you and i told her she'd have to be really amazing that's my answer
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yeah you know that's fair it's fair all right guys we're gonna wrap up fine any final thoughts before
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i wrap up from anybody speak now forever hold your hand no thank you for having me thank you for
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having us this was really fun thank you thank you uh we'll do quick really quick guys go to twitch.tv
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of them were just at them we had to pause some of them and your chat was related to a conversation
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that had already passed um the frequency was just really high i so for future shows might think about
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other things i want to talk about but unfortunately we're out of time so we'll see you next time guys
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