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00:02:09.040 the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead my name is

00:02:15.280 pearl bots i'm 31 and i'm a singer songwriter and content creator gotcha and uh you recently went

00:02:22.560 pretty viral you had a tiktok clip instagram reel go very viral which we'll react to after we uh

00:02:30.160 get through all the intros but uh there's a new york post article were there any other news

00:02:34.700 organizations that published anything or just yeah uh the daily mail australia um honestly a few i don't

00:02:43.040 remember them all okay well we'll get into it here shortly what about you hi my name is ava marie

00:02:48.660 and i'm 25 and a recording artist gotcha and you sing too correct what kind of music do you both

00:02:55.320 make uh r&b and soul we met at a songwriting camp okay and what kind of music do you make

00:03:01.960 i'm all over rapper r&b pop r&b pop can you rap no rap can you drop some never say never drop a

00:03:10.140 freestyle on the whatever you guys said you make music together right yeah nice can we are you a

00:03:16.420 soprano yes technically i am yeah can we maybe we could hear a little you want to sure maybe later

00:03:22.960 oh later okay we'll save it for later we'll save it for later sure what about you um my name's

00:03:27.140 jacklyn i'm 33 and i teach english teach english okay um in high school elementary school no it's

00:03:35.280 esl so it's like a private campus so it can be 17 to 100 it doesn't matter english as a second

00:03:41.640 language gotcha and are you primarily teaching like kazakhstani kid what uh the biggest group

00:03:49.340 right now is french it tends to move like you're teaching french kids how to speak english yeah

00:03:53.480 okay that's the dominating gotcha are you in can are you in canada canada well that's typically

00:04:00.660 where in north america you'd expect yeah a lot of french speakers so no yeah okay all right what

00:04:07.260 about you my name is kylie i am 25 and i do tattoos for a living okay very cool how long have you been

00:04:15.880 doing tattoos a couple years gotcha all right cool hi my name is ali i'm 25 and i am a project

00:04:23.780 specialist for a supply company all right welcome hi i'm tiffany i'm 18 i go to ucsb i'm majoring in

00:04:30.880 political science welcome hi i'm jackie uh i'm 23 and i code for a living you code for a living yeah

00:04:39.280 i'm a software engineer software engineer okay gotcha hi i'm emily i'm 19 and i go to cuesta college

00:04:47.560 as a criminal justice major all right sweet y'all know me chase 28 years old professional

00:04:54.140 photographer and brand consultant rock and roll we're gonna go around the table once more so please

00:04:59.120 tell us what your current relationship status is so are you single talking stage situationship

00:05:04.520 friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem a member of a harem

00:05:10.200 if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been

00:05:15.700 in go ahead i'm single i've been single for two years and the longest relationship i've been in is a

00:05:24.880 year and a half all right got it and you both live in la correct okay gotcha what about you i'm single

00:05:32.940 i guess you could say since september ish so like you guess yeah complicated what are you what are

00:05:42.040 you trying to do nick what are you trying to do nick what are you trying to do what are you trying to

00:05:48.380 do nick it's so over right bro actually hold on hold on nick's getting guillotined

00:05:55.920 it takes him literally 30 seconds go to stream yard f11 jesus christ okay scuffed um

00:06:08.780 it's okay it's all right we're back we're back go ahead who where did i live you were i think you

00:06:16.420 were saying she was saying it's complicated so you've been single since september so to about two

00:06:20.780 months you've been single longest relationship i guess on and off for four years whoa okay on and

00:06:28.560 off for four years everything's with an ish ish what does that mean wait it's currently complicated

00:06:33.880 is that no a single okay single for a couple three let's say two three months longest relationship

00:06:40.960 four years but on and off again uh how many like breakups were there

00:06:45.880 how many times was three off and back on three oh just three okay that's some people will in on

00:06:53.180 again off again situations that shit will break up every week so you know dozens of times

00:07:00.340 strong three okay all right so not too too toxic but a little toxic pretty toxic who of the times there

00:07:10.280 was a breakup who was initiating it was a you or the guy i'm always the one you'd always break up

00:07:15.260 for sure why why'd you take him back you know

00:07:19.040 you know people will say things people will change for a certain amount of time and show action

00:07:29.940 that follows up what they say but then slowly old habits come back it takes a lot for someone to

00:07:35.120 change you really have to want it for you you know there's a seinfeld episode about how it takes a

00:07:40.860 solid three times to really break up with someone and i really i think that's true but anyways so

00:07:47.420 who would come back to who would you go back to him or would he come back no no he would dm again

00:07:54.760 after the blocking was up or make a full new fake account full new number between yeah that particular

00:08:03.020 person made a new instagram and a new number to contact me so and emailed wow and he was able to

00:08:09.660 slide through your defenses um you know i i'm not like ruthless so i'm just gonna i'll be like i'll

00:08:16.440 hear you out we can meet for coffee see what's up okay attest the vibe did the same problems keep

00:08:23.040 surfacing

00:08:23.480 sort of sort of a new additional ones would come up i feel like as you spend more time with someone you

00:08:33.060 learn more about them you see them more so in a different light you spend more time with them

00:08:37.480 so new things were coming up for sure and then life threw some curveballs his way that change

00:08:44.700 yeah yeah you know was he very because you said he would make like new numbers and different emails

00:08:50.700 like you would say no but would he keep like was it badgering pestering to a degree yeah okay

00:08:59.660 because yeah yeah how did he not give you the ick by doing that well he did like at obviously

00:09:05.280 but then how did he recover from giving you the ick time i think because i just didn't really care

00:09:10.580 anymore like i didn't feel the same way so i was like you know i'll just hear you out as a friend i

00:09:14.880 was already talking to someone else it would it was like i think the longest in between was like a

00:09:19.080 year once we went without speaking i was over the whole thing so i was like it was more so on some

00:09:24.480 friends stuff and we both had changed and grew and were in different places of our life so then

00:09:29.160 it just became completely different i was different i don't know and then it kind of took a while and

00:09:35.060 then then yeah yeah you know but we're here now you said you were single you've been single for two

00:09:43.860 months was this on again off again relationship the one that ended two months ago no different

00:09:48.820 different relationship okay different uh while you were in the on again off again relationship was it

00:09:53.320 exclusive was it monogamous or were you guys seeing other people or well that's definitely

00:09:59.180 part of the issue um we were seeing other people ish but ish can we define do you want to be doing

00:10:09.940 that and should that that was not see i guess you would call it a situation chip honestly it was

00:10:15.700 during college too so it's a whole other that was a whole other thing okay college is different who

00:10:20.560 was it more of an issue with that you guys were seeing other people definitely me you had more

00:10:25.140 of an issue with him seeing other people yeah oh okay yeah but you were seeing other people too

00:10:28.980 yeah but that was why was it more of an issue that he was doing because i specific we specifically

00:10:35.700 had a conversation about how that wasn't going to happen and then once i figured out that was

00:10:39.540 happening on his end because it wasn't on mine originally i was like well i'm not just gonna

00:10:43.700 sit here wait so hold on let me get this straight i'm not trying to pry but no go ahead you broke up

00:10:51.800 with him and then blocked him later later okay so what was the agreement before you blocked him hey

00:10:58.480 we're not going to see anybody yeah yeah yeah it was and then he saw people yeah but if you blocked

00:11:07.620 him why why would you care well no he saw people before that and obviously that triggered me being like

00:11:12.820 okay well i'm not going to see you anymore and be with you you know that makes sense because i we

00:11:17.120 specifically had a conversation that you just went against i'm all about honesty because like

00:11:23.160 he violated your trust yeah and trust is important oh for sure yeah betrayal was like the main feeling

00:11:29.120 he'd do that before you guys broke up say that again did he do that before you guys broke up did

00:11:34.180 what see other people yeah that's why we broke up wait point of clarification were you when you say

00:11:40.200 like during this whole on again off again thing when you were seeing other people was it during

00:11:44.520 on stages or during off stages or both eventually both because the lines were so blurred at that

00:11:51.500 point it was a mess you know if you've ever been in a toxic situation it just you know good times

00:11:59.580 it was doomed clearly but you know okay all right well there you have it um what about you

00:12:06.540 so i am very much single um very much single very much single what is what is the difference

00:12:12.700 between single and very much single i'm not talking to anybody i just ended a four-year

00:12:19.160 relationship similar i was like oh it sounds like she's talking about me yeah four years on and off

00:12:23.440 i just like two weeks ago it was two weeks ago wait yeah so you've been single for two weeks i've

00:12:28.960 been single for two weeks that's fresh how does that feel right now um it's mixed feelings because it

00:12:35.500 was yeah just definitely toxic definitely a lot of what she was saying you know just like my trust

00:12:43.440 was not there he cheated on me um and he was just i don't know he had very weird tendencies i guess

00:12:51.020 like how so oh i don't want to talk too much about him but you know um he was very shy like shy to the

00:12:57.480 point where like he wouldn't even go in like in anywhere with me like we would go to like the

00:13:01.720 dispensary and he would be like can you go in and i'm like he never would want to go in like

00:13:06.100 anywhere and then was he like scared no and i mean like if we went grocery shopping and stuff like that

00:13:11.340 but it's like i don't know he's really weird about the dispensary for some reason and he's like he

00:13:15.620 didn't ever want to hang out with any of my like roommates my friends like ever so it's like him and

00:13:20.920 his friends were always number one and then it was like i came second sneaky link um hey probably

00:13:26.840 probably so wait four years on again off again relationship how many times was it on and off

00:13:31.380 honestly like like seriously like three times oh i was like just sounds like me you guys say the same

00:13:36.560 guy yeah right so three times really just three times okay seriously three times rule of three i

00:13:45.620 guess like she said um it takes three times to break up so okay three times um more often than not

00:13:53.220 who was breaking up with the oh sorry hold on just a sec grid one motorsports donated 99

00:13:59.560 is this in japanese what is happening right now ever stab at anyone the level of toki city here is

00:14:09.920 epic dot on and off again seems to be the tema of the night drug use and toki chic behavior seems like

00:14:18.520 it is going to be a great show oh that was english it was a japanese i gotta fix that japanese accent i

00:14:27.960 have to fix that how did that get turned on i need to i it must be one of my settings

00:14:32.840 um sorry grid one you are a japanese woman i guess um can you pull up that comment again without it

00:14:39.760 without without the yeah without the voice yeah yeah because that was a pretty funny comment here what

00:14:44.380 i'm gonna do is i don't know if i can wait let me see i'm gonna mute and then i'll pull it do you

00:14:50.000 want to read it chase and i'll fix i think we should have ava read it

00:14:53.240 do you want should i go yeah go for it go for it red hair equals red flags how many tires have you

00:15:00.520 slashed ever stabbed anyone the level of toxicity here is epic on and off again seems to be the theme

00:15:06.160 of the night drug use and toxic behavior seems like it's going to be a great show he's he's out for

00:15:10.800 you have a response to that um there was no mention of drug use um so i don't know where

00:15:16.420 you got that that's for her oh that's for her but okay how many tires have you slashed none no

00:15:22.140 yeah because no we've had some stabbings not on the show definitely no recently i do not promote

00:15:29.220 violence okay good good sorry grid one that i think it should be fixed now it should be i'll know

00:15:35.100 what happened there um so i think i was asking you more often than not who was breaking up with

00:15:40.880 who i think that's where we left off yeah it was pretty even like it was pretty even um yeah so

00:15:49.440 i would say equally we did like um he would break up with me and then like i like i would want him

00:15:55.920 back and i would break up with him and he would want me back like it was very back and forth you said

00:16:00.060 it was only there's only like three breakups major times like oh like there was space in between us

00:16:05.120 like talking or hanging out where like other times it's just like the toxicity of like you know like

00:16:09.820 f you like i'm gonna go do whatever or whatever so would there ever be like a minor split so you're

00:16:14.740 talking major split where there'd be what weeks months yeah but maybe a minor split where it'd be

00:16:19.580 like a couple days yeah exactly how often would that happen a lot a lot okay i still consider that

00:16:27.860 like a technically off period a lot like i want to say like 15 to 20 times damn yeah okay so

00:16:35.340 including the major and the minor on and offs you said it was still pretty evenly split yeah okay

00:16:43.640 and does that change anything for you like were there like little minor like okay okay b i'm just

00:16:49.900 we're done and then like the next day you guys get back together have you did you have that okay all

00:16:55.600 right i got a follow-up question for both of you were there any red flags at the beginning of the

00:17:00.100 relationship where you could have predicted this behavior yes yeah yeah what did that look like that's

00:17:04.440 like huge growth rule number one what you see in the beginning is what's gonna end it you can't

00:17:10.660 change the person period so so what did you see in the beginning oh you know playboy vibes blah blah

00:17:16.260 whatever what does that look like um like well first of all it was again college very different

00:17:25.720 time but going out to parties a lot playing on the sports team that was really big like constant girls

00:17:32.680 are always around fawning whatever and they love the attention someone who can't be alone ever always

00:17:39.020 needs like their team to build them up you know that sort of vibe and it would be like pulling teeth

00:17:47.180 to have a date actually be set for things you know so yeah so you wanted the chad that was fooling

00:17:56.560 around with all the other girls i wouldn't call him a chad you thought you could save him you thought

00:18:00.880 you could change him or what i didn't think i could change him because i think it kind of it's always

00:18:04.980 the guy who i i feel like i don't necessarily care about either in the beginning where it's just some

00:18:10.400 casual thing we met casually it wasn't a planned anything and i'm like oh like when we first met i

00:18:16.960 was i had no clue who he was and was very like who are you like like i wasn't really like oh my god

00:18:23.400 who is that like i did not feel that way and then slowly but surely just time passed started getting to

00:18:28.520 know the person hanging out and then like feelings crept up on me so i had no intentions of being like i'm

00:18:34.120 gonna bag this guy and change him like that was not the vibe at all just kind of organically grew

00:18:39.640 yeah um yeah and then feelings got deep on both ends but just wasn't the right time have you had a

00:18:47.720 rebound yet not yet what about you rebound you said it was two months ago well the thing two months

00:18:54.400 ago is a different guy from this four-year thing but have you had a rebound from the diff the most

00:18:59.200 recent guy sure yeah sure yeah okay all right rebound ish got it what about you so i am single

00:19:09.980 i've been single for a few weeks now and my longest relationship is about three and a half years

00:19:18.360 recent breakups a few weeks how long was your most recent relationship it was like five six months

00:19:26.440 yeah oh and what about yours how long was your most recent one the september breakup i guess

00:19:32.280 like eight ish months was it a situationship or like a proper boyfriend i guess you well it's um

00:19:44.420 i feel that i feel that you know i just it was a proper relationship and then the last month it wasn't

00:19:51.620 technically why because we broke up before and then we ran into each other at something and then

00:19:56.860 we're like uh and then we tried it again but it wasn't really what it was before before yes it was

00:20:03.880 okay this is a total non sequitur that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation

00:20:09.620 we're having right now my ocd is like you guys are both wearing jean jackets and sitting right next

00:20:17.640 to you you look like an amorphous mob blob is one of you like could you maybe just to satiate satiate

00:20:25.440 my ocd could you like maybe remove the unless like you are wearing something underneath well okay hold

00:20:31.640 on the way yeah i can i can take my jacket off just because okay just because like help differentiate

00:20:38.380 yeah like i'm yeah my the tisms kicking in um

00:20:44.060 did your turn i went i went already oh you did wait huh she said she's single broke up a few weeks

00:20:52.700 ago yeah yeah okay gotcha um why did he dump you he didn't dump me oh shit my bad what what an

00:21:01.800 assumption brian rude rude why did you dump him well it was it was mutual yeah

00:21:08.240 it was super mutual just not each other's people so rebound have you had a rebound no not yet no

00:21:16.140 rebound okay what about you um i am newly in a relationship a little over a month congrats

00:21:22.700 thank you how is it um it's new um because i got like my heart shattered back in march

00:21:30.580 sorry to hear that so it's okay um so i had to start over basically everything relearning myself

00:21:36.920 well how long was that relationship the heartbreak a year one year exactly a year

00:21:42.000 damn since the day i met him you broke up on your anniversary yeah longest longest relationship it

00:21:48.360 was that one oh you said it was a year you said it was gonna be like the happily ever after like oh

00:21:53.860 my gosh he fixed a heart he didn't break and then yeah okay sorry to hear that talking stage

00:22:00.460 okay talking stage um and but you haven't met this guy correct no never met him in person i'm meeting

00:22:10.440 him in like three weeks he lives in where alabama and okay how'd you guys meet he goes to school in

00:22:15.980 alabama he lives in uh nola new orleans how'd you guys meet um he saw me on tiktok and dm me on

00:22:22.980 instagram what was your tiktok something talking about kanye what'd you say about kanye i have no

00:22:31.320 idea you don't what i think she is it is it like cancelable were you saying kanye was right

00:22:37.680 i'm i don't know you have here show us your kanye tattoos so you have on your arm number one kanye

00:22:44.840 that's show us the other angle nick other angle how many tiktoks have you made of kanye

00:22:49.720 other angle maybe well i don't know but maybe that's quite a lot because wait show us again

00:22:55.800 there you go and then don't you have a life of pablo on your shoulder yeah okay it's on my instagram

00:23:02.380 yeah it's on our ig if you need to see um okay so but you've never had dated anybody nothing prior to

00:23:09.600 your no no alabama talking 100 100 what pure what do you mean by that like pure like what what do you

00:23:17.960 mean what do you mean like sexually pure okay so version okay what about you uh i i just became

00:23:28.760 single yesterday oh shit i'm so sorry so sorry to hear that if you can just speak a little closer to

00:23:35.800 the microphone uh newly single yeah you guys split up yesterday yeah okay how long were you guys uh dating

00:23:42.840 two years and a month i guess two point damn okay is that your longest relationship um yeah pretty much

00:23:51.640 and was it a was it long distance relationship or yeah he lives in south korea so the time difference

00:23:59.480 is kind of like really different yeah are you uh korean yeah okay gotcha so am i oh my god me too

00:24:08.280 wait so many really what oh my no way are you mixed half korean okay half korean if we get like

00:24:14.180 one more girl we got black pink here okay um is that offensive to say i don't know is that i think

00:24:20.440 that's okay right was that a reference what'd you say black pink is a south korean pop it's like a

00:24:25.480 girl girl girl yeah okay she sings true you could sing pro absolutely not software engineer so she could

00:24:36.940 okay i don't see but i can dance beautiful that's all you need kpop team kpop team let's go the trio

00:24:43.820 um so many breakups at the table um so but did you guys meet in person yeah yeah of course we went to

00:24:53.420 the same college okay so he like he moved to for work or uh he went back to south korea for grad school

00:25:01.180 and uh he he's south korean citizen so he couldn't really stay here oh i see so he was here in the

00:25:07.220 states for uh college yes gotcha whose decision was it if i may ask it was kind of mutual i think it's

00:25:15.100 really hard to do a long distance yeah it's tough yeah was it on the rocks a little bit or yeah i think

00:25:21.700 our personality didn't really match that well and it was okay in person but like if since it became all

00:25:28.520 yards it was really hard to like keep it up how long was it how long was it long distance

00:25:33.400 well since he graduated which was like

00:25:38.480 after winter i guess so like maybe like seven months but i did go back to south korea to see him

00:25:45.900 and then he also came to seattle so it's a long time to do long distance stuff okay what's the time

00:25:52.200 difference between here and south korea so it's right now it's like five right so it's like 10 a.m

00:25:58.200 there i think it's like 16 hours okay that's a tough one how did um you said you guys met in

00:26:06.760 college right yeah okay gotcha uh i think that's all the questions after that uh what about you emily

00:26:13.540 i'm single and my longest relationship was six months how long have you been single about a year

00:26:21.380 one year all right all right cool uh let's uh let's go into the the news article uh nick if you're able

00:26:32.900 to pull it up we got about pearl yes about pearl what'd you do bro last episode a girl stabbed her

00:26:43.280 boyfriend oh wow wait what's really nothing she claims she threw a cup and then wrestled him on top

00:26:50.260 of him and cut him with it but the police report said that she stabbed him with a kitchen knife

00:26:54.680 she denied that

00:26:56.740 yeah another super healthy relationship

00:27:01.380 yeah go ahead

00:27:04.900 this article okay yeah put this over there i use this oh wait hold on they ruined game of thrones

00:27:14.200 donated one hundred dollars okay good to see extra emily back have her on more chat ships you both btw

00:27:21.940 though if brian and emily had kids they'd be pale as ghosts

00:27:25.820 would you rather smash the hottest trans woman in the world or the oldest woman in the world

00:27:32.180 uh maybe we save it for a little later bro we save it for a little later later on in the show

00:27:38.860 here i'll pull it back up um we can okay we'll save it we'll save it um yeah for for the record oldest

00:27:44.820 woman in the world i've stated it before allow me to state it again maybe we can get into that a

00:27:51.660 little bit later uh okay well let's do the article all right uh i use this hack to shame cheap men

00:27:58.740 who want to split the bill guys say it's manipulative now do you take issue with the the title of this

00:28:04.120 article um i would say that i said

00:28:07.900 okay motorsports donated one hundred dollars

00:28:12.620 harip hawk that first chat was scuffed

00:28:16.100 lot of recent breakups must be holiday season again time to shop for a new one to the ladies

00:28:23.120 any shopping plans for the holiday season a new man perhaps anybody

00:28:28.820 i already got mine so she's are you you're the only one okay all right um

00:28:38.320 was it uh he said the first chat was scuffed lots of recent breakups must be time to shop for a new

00:28:47.120 the rule is actually you you shouldn't break up during the holiday seasons from i think thanksgiving

00:28:54.700 to valentine's day yeah or no is it i think it's well whose rule is this uh i don't know i just heard

00:29:01.500 a thing like you just shouldn't break up actually no i think it's from thanksgiving through the new year

00:29:06.840 and if you want you can extend it through valentine's day but thanksgiving through new year

00:29:11.700 you don't break up i think that's the rule because bad time this is the unofficial brian

00:29:17.040 unofficial rule don't break up during those time periods okay let's read let's get to the article

00:29:23.200 thank you grid one uh and i think you were saying you feel like this is fair is it fair is it fair title

00:29:29.680 i would say that it is inaccurate and an interpretation of the video that i posted why is it inaccurate

00:29:36.220 um one it wasn't a hack it was not used to shame rich or cheap men and um maybe guys say it's

00:29:46.900 manipulative is the truth in that well let's read the article a bit and then we'll pull up the video

00:29:51.800 so uh i don't know like this is it's a lot of uh editorialism with the new york post all the time but

00:29:59.440 uh this 100 genius hack will get 50 50 cheapos in check splitting the bill on a first date has

00:30:06.640 become a topic of contention amongst singletons online with dissenting views on whether a guy

00:30:12.880 should be solely responsible for picking up the tab during the inaugural scroll up a little bit

00:30:18.060 but one shady dater you're the shady dater one shady dater has devised a deliciously devious trick

00:30:27.600 that's sure to leave tight-fisted fellas with egg on their faces wow this is quite an article

00:30:33.120 oh my god curtis underscully undonated 100 ladies who would go on a date with brian bro it would be a

00:30:42.800 great date with a candlelight dinner at red lobster you bring the candles and brian will use words like

00:30:49.040 baker's doesn't bake simp and chad and young i loved bohang sk party until 7 a.m

00:30:59.360 you want to increase the tts threshold uh we'll leave it for now but if should we just shelf them

00:31:05.120 till after we're done with the article um we can we'll go around okay he's asking would would you go

00:31:12.320 on a date with me a lot of you are single so who would go on a date with brian raise your hand

00:31:19.520 no takers i don't know you

00:31:24.400 no you can you can say yes or no i'm not gonna be offended i would go on a date yeah yeah i think

00:31:29.840 maybe maybe i would i don't have any tattoos is that you don't have to okay i figured girls who like

00:31:37.520 are heavily tatted or do tattoos might prefer a guy who's tattooed but she can give you some tattoos

00:31:42.480 bro she can tattoo her name on your leg i'm okay with that uh no

00:31:53.280 um if it's like friendly i guess but i guess that's not into the mic oh sorry if it's friendly

00:31:59.760 well you'd only be friends with him are you friend zoning him right now no

00:32:02.720 no i'm not is that a friend zone you just got friend zone friend zone rip

00:32:07.120 shit can't win oh no oh sorry bro chase what about you oh i would go on a date with you bro

00:32:15.200 let's let's go gee we're back yes we're so bad the bromance is real all right okay

00:32:21.200 pull up the article uh uh if you want to can get the rest of it yeah when a man wants to go 50 50

00:32:28.320 on a date with you do this began going out guru pearl bots your guru an aspiring singer from la in

00:32:37.200 a trending tick tock how-to advising all the single ladies on best practices for politely jabbing

00:32:43.120 a prospective partner who expects them let's watch the video let's just watch the video nick if you

00:32:47.440 can pull it up what an article yeah

00:32:58.320 when a man wants to go 50 50 with you on a date do this

00:33:05.440 oh my god i'm so embarrassed right now um wait you wanted to just be friends

00:33:14.400 i'm so confused this whole entire time i thought this was a date oh my god okay i'm so sorry here's

00:33:19.920 my card here's my card here's my card and so that went viral yes it did how viral got like 8 million

00:33:29.680 views i think on tick tock right yeah something like that i think it's yeah like when a man when a man

00:33:35.760 what was the uh nick's getting the guillotine what was the uh response to it like in terms of like

00:33:41.280 the comments and stuff were you getting hate were you getting support um definitely a lot of both

00:33:46.960 i've gotten a lot of horrible emails lots of really deep like bad dms telling me i should do

00:33:54.400 all kinds of stuff i've been called every like racial slur i've been threats like literally an

00:34:02.160 insane amount of all kinds of what's the worst thing anybody said to you i mean i don't know if

00:34:06.640 i'm even allowed to say it on here am i uh maybe don't yeah it's it's pretty like not according to

00:34:13.040 any kinds of guidelines yeah yeah don't worry about it you but people have been mean yeah a lot of like

00:34:17.840 also just like stupid you're you're the worst woman on the internet like just kind of like that's like

00:34:22.480 the more tame stuff i would say what i saw though when i looked at some of the comments on the video

00:34:26.880 you do have some negative comments but it does actually seem predominantly from women that you

00:34:31.920 actually a lot of women co-sign what you said is it would you agree with that a lot of women seem to

00:34:37.200 agree i've been called genius a lot of times too yes i've also been called a philosopher

00:34:44.400 so yeah i mean a lot of positive things too but really like whenever you make any kind of content

00:34:50.080 you can't take anything too seriously either from the good side or the bad side like any you just have

00:34:55.200 to be yourself and people are going to comment and it's kind of cool that it you know gained a lot

00:35:01.680 of traction and like because this kind of topic isn't necessarily the thing that i care about the

00:35:07.040 most there's a lot of other things that i care about talking about the most but um you know having

00:35:10.960 a bigger audience is always cool um and i do have opinions about dating and stuff so yeah have you ever

00:35:17.440 pulled that move on a date uh no i've never had to like i don't really go on dates where well basically

00:35:26.000 ever since i decided internally that the energy i wanted to bring was to find the kind of person who

00:35:32.480 is like a lifelong partner like somebody who could be the potential father of my children like when i

00:35:37.920 had that mindset um i just brought different energy to the places i go and the men who approach me um

00:35:45.440 you know if i don't vibe with their energy then i don't go out with them the people who i do vibe with

00:35:50.000 they just don't have that kind of energy though i've people always take care of the bill i've never

00:35:54.480 had that issue since i decided that um never like never since i decided oh since you decided i have

00:36:01.520 i have had experiences many experiences with people who went 50 50 and what i why i made this video is

00:36:07.520 because when i grew in self-confidence and self-worth and because of the work that i've done on myself

00:36:16.560 because i do think that uh there are a lot of women who expect to be treated like princesses

00:36:22.000 or queens or not do anything but they themselves are not doing the inner work or becoming the person

00:36:27.840 of character or becoming somebody who could attract that kind of a person but expect that kind of a

00:36:32.720 treatment so i do think that there's a lot of responsibility on the woman to become like that

00:36:37.520 and if you're attracting men who are wanting to split the bill with you and who are getting mad at

00:36:42.720 you or whatever all these people in the comments who are like telling me i'm a horrible person or

00:36:46.880 using them for their money i'm like well you're telling me we would also never i would never go

00:36:52.400 out with somebody like you like your energy i probably wouldn't connect with and also this video

00:36:57.440 wasn't necessarily necessarily supposed to be a hack or advice it was more like a skit to illustrate a

00:37:03.760 point i don't really think that you should do this because i do think that it can be you know

00:37:09.120 shaming towards men and i don't want to shame men at all for anything and i do think that sometimes

00:37:13.920 men are overvalued for their income just like men are women are overvalued for like their physical

00:37:20.080 appearance or for sex there's there's oh did you have something i mean you said a lot of things that

00:37:26.480 i actually agree with i wasn't expecting that from you oh i i have i have not not to like not to

00:37:33.040 shit on you or whatever but like when i watched that video i was expecting like a serious like

00:37:37.200 princess complex right that was actually a pretty good yeah and i think that you know we have to all

00:37:42.480 take this into consideration when we're watching things on social media it's like it was a 30 second

00:37:47.840 clip of like a very small piece of how i think and who i am and of course nobody is going to do all

00:37:54.640 of the research go through like all of the other content that i have like nobody really knows you

00:38:00.000 and honestly like the sensationalism of this one clip has kind of made me rethink what journalism

00:38:06.800 in general is about like with more serious topics if this kind of a silly video is getting blown out

00:38:12.880 of proportion and like making people think all these types of things about me based off not what i said

00:38:18.400 but of other people's interpretation of it like how much more serious is our understanding of reality

00:38:25.200 with like actual news like it i don't know it caused me to reflect you know it's a good point i

00:38:30.640 mean the purpose of journalism nowadays because of internet advertising and generating clicks is to

00:38:35.280 make things as sensational as possible exactly kind of warping our entire perspective of reality

00:38:40.480 did you have i have some stuff about what you said did you have anything you wanted to say about

00:38:44.480 well there's there's uh i think three other videos of yours that we thought were interesting

00:38:49.520 sure worthy of being pulled up and certainly the grid one motorsports donated 100 surprisingly based

00:38:58.240 there question for the panel are you a feminist and if so what does that mean to you i will go around

00:39:04.320 the table on that do you consider yourself a feminist and what does that mean to you i do consider myself

00:39:09.840 a feminist um what is it what does that mean a feminist to me means that it's it's a recognition that there

00:39:22.800 is inequality in the ways in which women and men are treated and that there's a history of inequality

00:39:31.760 and it's the fight to reconcile those differences not so that men and women are the same

00:39:38.160 but that they're given the same opportunities and so you think like women should be should have to

00:39:45.840 register for the draft for example um because you believe in no like equality between the sexes so

00:39:51.520 you think should women be able to be drafted for the military um no i don't i think that there's a

00:39:56.800 difference between sameness and fairness i think sameness says yes women should be drafted in the military

00:40:03.520 just like men should fairness is understanding that women can be taken advantage in ways that men will

00:40:09.280 not be taken advantage of like sexually women can be men are actually also can be just taken advantage

00:40:17.120 of in that way too so that's true that's true um but given like the history of what it is to be a woman

00:40:24.720 it seems like women have more abuse when it comes to that um and women are also more susceptible

00:40:29.520 and we're also like the physically weaker sex um and so yeah and also our hormones are very different

00:40:37.840 like in the way in which there's i don't even know if all the women here at this table really

00:40:43.120 understand like the infradian rhythm like because we're not taught about our cycle and the different

00:40:48.480 hormones that we go through in a 28-day cycle yes we know about our periods but we don't a lot of us

00:40:53.280 are just now learning about like the follicular phase the luteal phase like and how all of these

00:40:57.920 different hormones affect our emotions and understanding all that like there's a lack

00:41:02.080 of knowledge and understanding when it comes to being a woman in general so yeah okay to back up

00:41:07.600 a second um with your sameness and fairness thing to be honest with you it kind of sounds to me like

00:41:13.680 you want equality as long as it's benefiting women but when it's not benefiting women and men can take

00:41:19.120 the brunt of it you're like that's cool like i'm fine with that yeah how do you see that well i mean

00:41:24.480 if you know if we lived in like a properly feminist world uh there wouldn't be affirmative

00:41:29.840 action initiatives to put more women in positions of uh like workplace positions and in academic

00:41:37.360 positions if we had a truly equal world women like i said would get drafted into the military like i think

00:41:43.840 if if feminists want to truly fight for equality it's like put your money where your mouth is but if

00:41:48.960 you only want equality when it's benefiting you then it's not you don't actually want equality you just

00:41:53.360 want a world that benefits women more often um saint underscore easy donated 99 i don't understand

00:42:03.680 why men are confused about playing the provider role women get pregnant and for the better part of a

00:42:09.520 year they are more or less immobilized and dependent on their partner gender roles exist for a reason

00:42:15.840 it's not that hard to figure if it's too much for too long we'll boost it um i think you're about

00:42:22.960 to respond thank you saint to this no no just to what i just said so do you want me to specifically

00:42:31.040 address it just i it just seems to me like feminists want equality where it benefits them but when it

00:42:35.920 comes to actual quality like working all of the roughest jobs in the world for example that are

00:42:39.760 extremely dangerous and high risk like when it comes to those jobs feminists never want equality

00:42:45.520 there they only want equality in the places where it benefits them but when men have to pick up the

00:42:49.200 rest of the slack they're like yep that's fine like we don't want equality there you go do that men

00:42:53.680 you know it's like i don't i don't think you actually want equality i think you just want

00:42:57.760 more benefits for women if you're defining equality as equal outcomes throughout society

00:43:04.080 equal outcomes throughout society equal opportunity or no like we all do the exact same thing

00:43:11.680 yeah women talk about wanting equality throughout society but if you're i think equality is a tough

00:43:17.360 term because uh if by equality you're where if you want you do you want equal opportunity instead

00:43:25.120 i think i whatever you're talking about like defining equality as um do you want equality of

00:43:31.680 outcome or equality of opportunity i would say that i don't think that women are fighting for uh okay

00:43:40.720 so do you want equality of outcome or equality of opportunity because i'm talking about equality of

00:43:45.520 outcome but if you want what many feminists want which is equality of opportunity i guess the question

00:43:50.720 i have is what opportunities do i have that you don't okay i would say that this is how i would

00:43:59.360 respond to that answer i think that you know

00:44:05.440 telling you we should raise the tz this is crazy dollars well that was short-lived men are more

00:44:11.040 likely to be sick than women women have rights men do not have men have no parental rights feminism

00:44:18.400 has failed you how can the patriarchy help you today if if it does it like more we'll boost it go ahead

00:44:26.240 okay i think that women were in a position for a very long time where we were being treated very

00:44:36.240 horribly and we still are in positions where we are treated very unfairly and very horribly well how

00:44:42.400 so well what also what evidence do you have that throughout history broadly speaking all women or most

00:44:48.560 women were treated i think did you say poorly or unfairly i think she said horribly horribly yeah it's not

00:44:54.000 clear to me if women were specifically because of their gender or just because they were women or

00:44:59.040 happened to be women that they were treated horribly i mean there were people who were being burned at the

00:45:04.080 stake because someone called them like the salem witch trials yeah like that i would say it's unfair

00:45:09.440 men who were enslaved and forced into conscripted labor and military service that women were protected

00:45:15.520 from yeah i'm not saying it wasn't bad for men um but i would say that there are just

00:45:20.560 yeah i think before we continue because the initial question was asking everybody if you consider

00:45:27.920 yourself a feminist why don't we just go around the table yeah get everybody's answer to that yeah

00:45:31.360 do you consider yourself a feminist and what does that mean to you yes um and to me

00:45:39.600 i think that means equal opportunity also outcome though right because honestly at the end

00:45:46.480 the day if a woman does want to be drafted or does want to go fight for our country why not not let her

00:45:53.360 yeah like it's not about it's not about women not being able to serve it's more that men have to

00:45:57.680 register for the selective service and women don't well i think the argument is like might as well then

00:46:02.640 make it equal though right because you think women should be drafted for the military in order to prove

00:46:07.840 this point sure we can say that just because i think that's a terrible idea i mean but the thing is

00:46:13.120 your art because i'm absolutely i'm absolutely not but i don't want my i don't want my daughters

00:46:17.680 getting drafted well yeah okay wait so but anatomy wise like pearl was saying we're born not as strong

00:46:24.240 upper body wise like for example like i knew this one lady i forget her name but she was like this

00:46:30.720 karate instructor and i saw her do more push-ups than all these men that were like jacked but the way

00:46:35.600 she had worked so much harder to get it like that than them because it is a little bit like naturally

00:46:41.040 easier for a man to bulk up doing upper body stuff whatever it's just like yeah right so i feel like

00:46:48.160 when it comes to you're addressing a lot of physical jobs right so i feel like in now flipping the script

00:46:55.680 of like a lot of caregiver jobs i feel like women have and you guys can't give birth we can never give

00:47:01.600 you that like as a a thing to do like we will always be the person to bear a child and go through that

00:47:09.120 and put our bodies through that so it's like at the end of the day complete equal everything is

00:47:14.400 technically not possible if you're talking about physical jobs physical things because anatomy wise

00:47:21.280 genetically we are different so it's like there's only so far that argument we're gonna reach a ceiling

00:47:27.600 with that stuff but when it comes to opportunity like and what pearl was saying i feel like going off

00:47:33.200 of that as i i'm in the music industry i go to a lot of talks i talk i see a lot of women that have

00:47:40.720 gained very very powerful roles in the music industry but it's like one in five on the panel where there's

00:47:46.960 like an anr that's a woman and the way she explains how she got there and how she you know a lot of the

00:47:54.160 time is in a room full of men and it takes a very i think well-rounded educated group of people to

00:48:03.840 when a woman speaks up in the room treat her and respect her word just as much as a man i think i

00:48:09.600 do see that a lot and sometimes it's subconscious as well so i think it's bringing everything to a

00:48:13.920 conscious state of when a woman speaks and a man speaks at an equal educational level let's say you

00:48:19.600 respect both their word evenly like that is what feminism is to me and do you think that because

00:48:24.480 there are you used female a and r um what is that's art something repertoire something in

00:48:31.840 repertoire what does an a and r works at a label and kind of like scouts new talent listens to music

00:48:37.760 what what's it's uh what does it stand for though i think it's blank i forgot what the a

00:48:41.920 stands for but it's blank and repertoire uh do you think that this discrepancy is due to sexism

00:48:47.680 um some somewhat maybe do you think the fact that for example

00:48:57.680 that women earn more in modeling or that women earn more in the sex work industry do you think

00:49:03.760 that that's evidence of sexism against men um i mean i don't know much i don't know i mean maybe

00:49:10.240 yeah and i do want to go around the table get everyone's answer on this just to add on one thing

00:49:13.760 um do you think for example women women's nba or women's soccer the fact that they get paid less

00:49:20.080 or women's tennis for example i think that's unfair do you think that that's unfair or evidence of

00:49:25.520 sexism i mean i do because if i'm looking at the work that a person does like if like a female

00:49:32.320 soccer player why is why is she not getting paid just as much as a male soccer do you want to know

00:49:36.400 the answer to that well i know let maybe we have the everyone else give their take on that but

00:49:41.440 uh so here let's go around the table are you feminist what does that mean to you

00:49:47.360 what do you think about women getting paid less in the wmba soccer athletic fields etc um i'm not a

00:49:53.600 feminist um i definitely like more traditional based um but i guess for me i think in today's world like

00:50:04.800 men just like they want that kind of woman without being like the type of man that deserves that kind

00:50:11.120 of woman right it's like if you want me to rub your feet make your food wash your clothes all that

00:50:16.560 stuff but yet you're not providing for me you're not even giving me like you're you're not even

00:50:21.680 making me a priority right so i don't know i guess i feel like that part is like lost on i don't know

00:50:28.400 this generation you want a traditional world where women can be traditional and the men are also

00:50:33.840 traditional and they're actually living up to those values definitely like if i had a man that was

00:50:37.920 actually living up to those values i would not a dude who's like afraid to go into the dispensary

00:50:44.560 he's not a bad guy he's not he's yeah just different personalities but yeah okay yeah but

00:50:50.320 a feminist is someone i think who believes in women's rights and um and really advocates for them right

00:50:56.960 i'm just unfortunately don't i i wouldn't consider myself one and i think that the wnba don't get it

00:51:03.680 because it's like views right like there's way more views for the mba so it's like the money that

00:51:09.360 people are putting into it it's like not as much yes okay would you consider yourself a feminist i

00:51:15.360 don't think i would consider myself a feminist i support women um but i guess i just don't identify with

00:51:22.880 the current feminist values why is that um i feel like modern feminism

00:51:33.120 i mean i'm totally cool not getting drafted i don't i don't want to get drafted as you should be

00:51:39.040 i do not want to i'm okay with not being completely equal yep i think it works out better

00:51:45.840 yeah it's good for a society to protect its women from war i think so yeah um we shouldn't send them

00:51:51.280 into the meat grinder i don't i don't want to go yeah i think that's totally fair and reasonable as

00:51:57.840 well but they want to go to war though i'm kidding um but yeah i i support women um

00:52:08.400 but i'm cool not being totally completely like equal okay that's that's fine with me cool how about

00:52:16.240 yourself do you consider yourself a feminist i'm gonna preface this by saying that i am not educated in the

00:52:21.120 matter but i am i am more like jacqueline where i'm very traditional i am also which is kind of

00:52:27.360 like contradictory i'm also very independent like i have my own full-time job i don't need a man to rely

00:52:33.440 on for um you know money or anything but also at the same time i'm just very i grew up traditional so

00:52:42.720 i don't know anything else to be quite honest sweet cool how about yourself i'm not a feminist i do

00:52:48.720 believe in equal opportunity but i don't think that it makes sense for us to advocate that advocate

00:52:55.120 for that in today's society why why are you not a feminist women already have all the opportunities

00:53:00.400 men have do you feel like feminism was like a healthy movement do you feel like it's become

00:53:04.080 unhealthy at this point yeah it's toxic why is it toxic because it's making men feminine and women

00:53:09.200 masculine so true so true how about yourself um i don't think i'm a feminist but um i i wouldn't

00:53:18.640 consider myself like traditional because i wouldn't want to stay home i think like both genders should

00:53:24.400 have like kind of like if they're smart and if they're really good at like coding for example then

00:53:29.680 i think they should get into coding but i don't think if you're to the mic a little bit more if you're

00:53:34.000 like not qualified for the job i don't think you should be so like that just because you're like

00:53:37.920 a woman or like man so you feel like if a woman's qualified for a job she should be able to get it

00:53:42.960 yeah if if she's actually qualified do you intend on having a family someday yeah of course do you

00:53:48.400 want to have kids yeah would you want to keep working while you're pregnant and stuff well i'm i

00:53:52.400 code i can just code at home okay cool how about yourself emily feminist um no i wouldn't consider myself

00:53:59.200 feminist i i don't really like the new wave i mean people talk about like third wave fourth

00:54:04.960 wave feminism there's just like too many i feel like women already have all of the equal opportunity

00:54:10.560 that we need and that we wanted um but now it's begun to like take this sort of turn where it's like

00:54:17.600 we want to support all women but it's not women we're always supporting so i would say um i'd rather

00:54:25.280 protect women and no i don't want to get drafted what do you what do you mean it's not always women

00:54:29.600 who you're supporting emily um so i'd say i see more are you telling me it hurts women for trans women

00:54:36.320 to go into their bathrooms is that what you're telling me right now yeah i think it hurts women

00:54:40.720 for feminists to support that movement because you're putting women in an unsafe situation nine

00:54:46.640 times out of ten um and yeah most most often than not i see the feminists supporting that kind of

00:54:52.800 thing so i wouldn't really identify myself with that are you telling me that feminism has gone way

00:54:56.880 too far yeah it's not even like the same thing it was back in the 60s or anything are you telling me

00:55:02.480 it's low-key destroying our modern world i think you're pretty base yeah we're back we're back where

00:55:10.560 do you want to take it from there uh let's see well that was the chat so there was do you want to talk

00:55:16.960 about why wnba players yeah i need to give these here maybe you guys can pass these down to give one

00:55:23.360 to tiffany and give one to uh anonymous to sit on these guys you guys need see boosters you're causing

00:55:30.160 mightism to flare up that or it's the vaccine change your shirt so you don't have a floating head on the

00:55:37.040 background bring yeah it does it's like uh yeah i look like i'm blending it i'm like camouflage it's

00:55:42.400 an orange jumpsuit jesus is the way all right for causing your tism to act up anonymous anyways uh

00:55:50.720 to go back to the wnba thing this your position is one that i've heard many many women say and

00:55:56.000 especially like you can look at the women's soccer team the national women's soccer team for

00:56:00.080 the usa they're always like talking about how unfair it is that they get paid less money

00:56:04.880 the reason why it's like that is because sports and sports broadcasting is a business and the

00:56:10.480 reality is far less people want to watch women play soccer it's not like there's like

00:56:16.880 grid one motorsports donated 100 okay chase last one sorry it throws you off ladies that think you

00:56:26.080 are feminist please try and understand that men value you but feminism must devalue true

00:56:32.640 curious what what qualities do you look for in a man here we'll come back to i'll write that question

00:56:37.600 down we'll come back to that so yeah but it ultimately comes down to like there's not like

00:56:41.600 a governmental organization that's like we're gonna pay them this much for sure the teams play

00:56:46.560 there's advertisers that pay advertising money and then they get like it's a business they get a cut

00:56:50.720 of that but i also think it's because men for so long have been in a position of power and have

00:56:56.080 been looked at as like the more physical whatever are the ones who go out and work are the ones who do

00:57:00.800 sports are the ones who do this so they have more years of it being socially acceptable it's so it's

00:57:06.640 like it's not it's more looked at i don't think it's that complicated but related to that

00:57:12.560 go underscore aren't underscore the underscore tbl underscore yes underscore or underscore no donated

00:57:18.800 99 dollars be honest do you thnk it's possible that men outperform women in hierarchies not involving

00:57:26.320 sex plus beauty not because of sexism but because men have to acquire power and resources to attract

00:57:32.240 women and so invest more hours effort and energy on competence it's actually a really good point um

00:57:39.840 because there's a there is a mating pressure on men to because there's a lot of women who want men to be

00:57:49.680 providers but there's not a lot of men who want women to be providers ergo there's a larger cohort of

00:57:56.160 women who in a partner desire a guy who can provide a guy who makes good money therefore can you make

00:58:02.720 the argument that if there's this massive pressure from the opposite sex for men to make money that

00:58:12.880 they're probably going to want like have a more of a there's performance pressure there's a performance

00:58:19.440 pressure we have to perform see that that's the thing women oftentimes almost always are selected

00:58:27.040 by men because of their physical appearance their personality their energy so on and so forth

00:58:32.480 women generally speaking don't really select men based on just their physical appearance obviously

00:58:38.080 women care about personality every woman likes a funny man for example and a guy with confidence

00:58:42.640 but men in order to you know really secure a woman they have we have to perform we have to make money we

00:58:47.920 have to be able to provide especially if you want a traditional woman like we have to perform in

00:58:51.840 society and provide value so there's like competition right and the men who are performing the highest

00:58:58.400 typically get the most attractive women right this is why like the celebrities the athletes uh that you

00:59:05.200 know all of all of these like wealthy businessmen they have the greatest selection when it comes to women

00:59:09.920 so there's like a huge there's a huge competition among men to perform at the highest level as possible but

00:59:14.800 women don't have to compete in that same way in order to lock down a partner does that make sense

00:59:20.800 yes yeah which is kind of what drives this inequality throughout society like you have one of the

00:59:25.920 factors yeah it's it's one of the factors like you have think about like all the billionaires in the

00:59:29.600 world they're almost all men because men we have this you know we were talking about hormones before men

00:59:34.560 have the hormone testosterone this makes us competitive it makes us aggressive because of the hormone

00:59:39.840 testosterone you have you often have like super driven men that are like extremely focused on their

00:59:45.760 career and bringing value to society and they become obsessed with their careers and they make

00:59:51.360 billions of dollars and they rise to the top of the hierarchy and dudes are driven to do this for

00:59:55.040 any number of reasons oftentimes pulling in the best women is one of those motivating factors whether

01:00:01.200 or not men are conscious of it so you have this natural thing that's driving massive inequality in

01:00:06.080 society that just exists in nature and i don't think it's because of sexism that that exists i think

01:00:10.720 it's just because of human nature you guys think that's fair i think that that is fair yeah yeah i think

01:00:16.320 that that is fair it's it's the same pressure that women feel to be as beautiful as they possibly can

01:00:20.800 exactly and so that's it's it's the exact same pressure so if i say if men are like well you don't have

01:00:26.080 to wear makeup you don't have to buy all this stuff it's like well i don't have to but i do i have to

01:00:32.000 outperform other women with my beauty in order to attract the kind of man who's who's performing

01:00:38.560 to be whatever have the most resources or whatever because men are valued for their resources and

01:00:43.600 women are valued for their beauty that's absolutely correct that's biology that's how we're made go

01:00:48.240 ahead you had something sorry really quick can i say something before that though i think what there's

01:00:54.000 many different forms of feminism but i think the reason that the feminist movement had to happen

01:00:59.040 although yes it can be extreme is because um men abused that power and because they created the

01:01:06.720 structure of the workforce to benefit them yes maybe in an ideal world if men like protected women

01:01:14.080 and they we didn't have to suffer like and like be scared every time i went outside i carry pepper

01:01:19.280 spray everywhere i go just in case like and we hear all of these stories that are like i'm being put in

01:01:25.040 danger i need a man to protect me from other men who knows what a society would be like if there

01:01:30.640 wasn't that kind of abuse and i'm not saying that women don't do anything but i'm saying we're just all

01:01:36.320 fucked up and we need each other to help like us balance the scales and for a really long time

01:01:43.360 like there was just this huge inequality as far as like safety goes so i think women are saying like

01:01:48.800 i need to feel safe like so well i need some power i need some financial power because these men are

01:01:56.800 like making me feel unsafe you know what i'm saying so that's why we kind of needed that well

01:02:00.400 i think women are much less safe now than they were under the protection of a man who actually loved

01:02:05.440 them i think nowadays you have so many strong independent women out there that are like boss

01:02:09.280 babes and they're out there working and they're uh walking alone late at night throughout major cities

01:02:13.840 and they don't have a man who's protecting them and these women get assaulted you know like whereas

01:02:18.240 back in the day throughout traditional what you might call patriarchal societies uh women were

01:02:23.600 accompanied by men oftentimes where they would go because yes the world is a brutal place it always

01:02:27.920 has been throughout all of human history i i would argue that women were oftentimes safer back then

01:02:32.800 i would also argue too what you call um or what many feminists call like liberation and bringing

01:02:38.800 women into the workforce so that they could get their independence and and uh you know this is

01:02:42.960 something that they secured for their own good i would plant the seed

01:02:48.880 donated 100 dollars it's like it's like i lied sue me copy kiko please you carry mace because of

01:02:55.440 feminism menus to protect women but you have shamed them into being soy boys realize that men are not

01:03:02.800 the evil you want them to be what's this copy kiko i think we should raise it to like 150 so we can

01:03:09.360 have conversation go on for more than two minutes maybe grid wait if you can give the give us 30

01:03:15.520 minutes just to get through this conversation um i i think i think you know i hear a lot of women

01:03:23.760 talk about how they secured independence through joining the workforce and there's an argument to be

01:03:28.560 made there i also think this idea of like liberation and empowerment through working like

01:03:34.320 you know i talked about this on the last episode read alexander toqueville's writings like the women

01:03:40.640 of the 1800s in america they did not see themselves by and large as oppressed like they they knew where

01:03:46.560 their domain was and that that was in the home and it was they had pride in mastering that and they raised

01:03:52.160 awesome families and they were awesome wives and there was dignity in that position like to be a great

01:03:57.520 homemaker it's a very it's a very important role right i think get getting women out of that position

01:04:06.000 and into the workforce for the people at the top who run this whole society now all of a sudden you have

01:04:11.280 twice the amount of people that are working in industry to support this entire capitalist superstructure and

01:04:17.520 then paying taxes it's possible that what you call women's liberation has actually been exploiting

01:04:22.480 women as taxpayers when they might be much happier at home as uh wives and homemakers they thought

01:04:28.240 about that they might be um i i can't speak for every woman but i do think that there are some women

01:04:36.480 who just want to work and they want to have that option to work and i don't i think that there just

01:04:42.080 should be that option if women because i mean i'm somebody who yes i want to be a mother yes i want to

01:04:48.800 have a husband i do want to have children that is a desire of mine but some people do not and i also

01:04:54.480 have a desire to have a successful business just because i want to prove that to myself i like

01:04:59.520 working i guess like i don't know about the traditional workforce but like i want to make

01:05:04.320 money for myself like um i want to be able to leave a relationship if it's not good so i want to have

01:05:10.560 that option and i think before it was kind of forced upon women to choose a certain way and i think

01:05:17.200 women were like well just in case i want to have an option has it gone to an extreme measure i think

01:05:22.960 in some cases yes when you say you want to be able to work so you have the option to choose to leave a

01:05:27.600 relationship do you mean in the context of marriage um any kind of relationship where i might be dependent

01:05:33.200 on a man to support me okay do you want like a traditionally masculine man kind of sounded like

01:05:38.000 how do you define traditional masculine man well i mean do you do you want like a 21st century kind

01:05:43.280 of like metro feminine guy or do you want like a you know strong masculine man who's like the leader

01:05:48.240 in the relationship like what kind of guy do you want what are the qualities of a traditional

01:05:51.680 masculine man like break it down you tell me what kind of man i'll tell you what kind of man i want

01:05:56.560 um i want somebody who um where there's like mutual support and whatever we feel like our purpose is

01:06:05.520 on earth um i yes i think for me personally because i do want to have children i do want a man

01:06:12.560 who if you know we decided to have children it wouldn't be like financially burdensome for us to

01:06:18.960 have children and i get to choose like depending on how much money i'm making at the time depending

01:06:24.400 whatever like what kind of man like what his finances are or whatever how much resources are what

01:06:31.680 do you mean no sorry i get to choose the the kind of man i choose like i can look at who their

01:06:36.880 finances and then choose according to that depending on my situation as well okay you know

01:06:40.880 what i'm saying like yeah no it totally makes sense i mean yeah i'm hearing you know it sounds

01:06:45.200 like you want things relatively equal in the relationship in in many ways in terms of the

01:06:49.680 power dynamic and stuff and you also want equal power dynamics and a lot of equality throughout

01:06:54.400 society correct i don't want i feel like women should feel empowered to make the choices that

01:07:00.320 best serve them okay that's not an answer to my question earlier in the conversation you know

01:07:04.560 we've been having this conversation in the context of equality in society and you're telling me that

01:07:08.640 you want like understandably and equivalence in the power dynamic with the relationship you want

01:07:13.760 to be making your money you want him to be making his you guys want to be able to mutually support

01:07:17.440 one another correct um yes but if i do have a child i do want to have the option to not have to work

01:07:24.240 okay so if you want all of this equality throughout society but also in your relationship

01:07:28.960 why do you not want equality when it comes to splitting the bill um well how are you defining

01:07:35.440 equality equality is quality when it comes to splitting the bill like i pay 50 you pay 50.

01:07:40.240 uh again i don't think that equality means that you do the same thing i think it means that you bring

01:07:45.600 equal value to the relationship or equal value to whatever the situation is wait can i say something

01:07:51.200 so if it if that means you both bring equal value would that mean you would also pay rent like half the

01:07:57.040 rent or would you expect your partner to pay like full rent groceries everything like that even if

01:08:02.080 you're working at the same time um i haven't been in a situation where i i wouldn't go into a

01:08:07.520 relationship where i i would expect my man to pay the rent and pay for all that stuff if i'm pregnant

01:08:13.440 if i'm pregnant um i mean i think it just depends on your financial situation and who you are with but

01:08:20.320 i'm not opposed to going 50 50 with rent like if we make like equal amounts of money or whatever i

01:08:26.320 wouldn't be opposed to sharing i ideally wouldn't choose that i would ideally like to not have to

01:08:32.400 work but we don't live in a society where like you can i mean you can't you can attract whoever

01:08:36.880 you want whatever choose whatever you want but no that wouldn't be like i have to have that i'm not

01:08:41.200 going to be with you if if but it depends on their energy it depends on their ambition you know if

01:08:46.800 like their desire is to do that their desire is to provide to give me whatever he possibly can to

01:08:52.160 take care of me to make me feel at ease that energy is more of what i'm looking for than like

01:08:56.480 an actual number okay so let's say you meet a guy and he's like yo i want to provide for you i want

01:09:02.640 to take care of you he's happy to pay for the bill on the first date and the subsequent dates and he's

01:09:08.480 like this whole like you having a business thing and like going and working out in the world i don't

01:09:13.200 really want you to do that but i am going to take care of you and you trust him and he wants to you

01:09:18.320 to be like a stay-at-home mom would you be open to that i would ask why don't you want me to work

01:09:23.920 well i can answer as as a guy who wants a wife who's a stay-at-home mom why would i want my wife

01:09:29.760 out in the world working for some random guy when she could be home with me like i i have my own

01:09:33.920 business you know like i want my woman with me cooking for me being there to support me to take care

01:09:38.960 of me to hang out with that's something women are very very good at when they dedicate themselves

01:09:43.360 to it why would i want my woman out there working at some corporation or whatever when she could be

01:09:47.520 home with me why would i want her to do that yeah um well for me if i'm working some job just to make

01:09:54.480 money then i totally get that argument because it's you're going if if a guy wanted to do that for

01:10:01.120 you and he wanted to take care of you in that way would you be open to it i would say that um

01:10:08.400 the reason that i do the work that i do is because it develops me as a human being and it makes me it

01:10:15.040 is impossible to get a straight answer out of you i think you wouldn't be okay i like to do i like to

01:10:20.640 do the work can i chime in go ahead because there's no way i will never not be pursuing my dream and

01:10:27.920 career yeah like i it's not a job i'm an artist i have to sing i have to score 33 donated 100

01:10:35.760 sorry for interrupting but this relates to the convo ladies would you rather be a boss babe woman

01:10:41.680 who goes 50 50 in finances or be a trad wife slash zam who serves her family and husband also do you

01:10:49.200 think you're deserving of a high value man we'll go around the table on that go ahead you want to be a

01:10:54.480 stay-at-home mom or not you you said no do you believe you're deserving of a high value man

01:11:00.080 hold on i don't understand the question he's saying do you want to be a boss what's s-a-h-m

01:11:04.080 stay-at-home mom oh stay-at-home mom um i think that you answered the question already you you don't

01:11:10.560 want to be a stay-at-home mom i will i would like to be a stay-at-home mom for a part of my life yes

01:11:15.120 okay while you're pregnant do you believe you you're deserving of a high value man um

01:11:19.440 yes okay and i get to deem whatever that is okay what about you not gonna stay home yes i'm

01:11:25.280 deserving of yeah okay what about you i would definitely stay home and i definitely think

01:11:31.360 i'm deserving of a high value man okay what about you i would totally stay home too i'd be cool doing

01:11:38.240 that um what well what is defined as a high value man it's a good question i want to know that's a good

01:11:46.000 question i mean it depends values in the eye of the beholder values in the eye of the beholder but

01:11:51.360 like generally speaking you've got slobs in this world and then you've got dudes that are on top

01:11:56.320 of their business that can provide and snap necks and cash checks i would say that's a high value man

01:12:00.800 you know a man with confidence who can get things done then yes you think i definitely deserve a high

01:12:07.920 value man um i would be a stay-at-home mom in a millisecond um and yes i believe that i am okay

01:12:18.480 i don't want to be a stay-at-home mom and i think i'm deserving of a high value man okay

01:12:24.000 sorry i didn't mean to press that go ahead i think it would depend on the man to be honest if they make

01:12:30.480 twice as much as me then i would be a stay-at-home mom okay yeah how much you're you're a software

01:12:36.080 engineer in seattle right i mean software engineers that's typically a very high-earning job so um i'll

01:12:41.680 know if you're at liberty to you make six figures yeah okay 20 and you're 23 yes 23 so pretty good

01:12:50.080 good job yeah software engineers make good money um so you need a guy to make what like 300k

01:12:57.120 for you to be a stay-at-home mom yeah and i would i would i feel like i would be a good stay-at-home mom

01:13:02.560 just that i want to be like comfortably living so if i i could stay at home and also do my work

01:13:08.800 anyways so it really depends on the financial situation sure um yes i would i don't want to

01:13:15.360 have children unless i have the option of staying home and um being with them i think children deserve

01:13:20.720 their mom at home until like they're teenagers so yeah and i think i do deserve my value man okay

01:13:27.360 miss lux thank you very much for the chat appreciate it i think you were about to i don't know if you

01:13:31.200 recall your point you were about to come in on or you had come in on something you had more to add

01:13:36.240 okay i think well i was saying you never want to give up your dreams yeah no way no way and the way

01:13:42.480 you were talking about men oh my god i'm telling you sports donated 100 chase face it equality is

01:13:50.560 whatever copy kiko says it is divorce attorneys will be the only winners in her future copy kiko men do not

01:13:58.080 value your money we value your femininity bingo a man you will want will not want you

01:14:04.240 apologies can you scoot into the table a little bit you're just getting caught up yeah before you go

01:14:09.040 on i want to hear what you have to say but the point that he's making kind of touches on what that

01:14:13.040 last super chat was pretty much every woman at this table just said that you all deserve a high value

01:14:18.640 man high value men look for high value women high value women have femininity to offer man support

01:14:27.040 help uh nietzsche said you know a man's happiness is i will a woman's happiness is he will right i've

01:14:34.640 found that the healthiest relationships i've had in my life were when a woman looked at me as kind of

01:14:38.880 like the hero in her life and she really admired me and looked up to me and my dreams and goals and

01:14:43.360 vision were her dreams and goals and vision and when there's tension there uh it kind of you know

01:14:48.720 it can tear at the relationship right high value men typically are very driven they're like they're

01:14:53.840 they're focused they're confident they're on a mission in the world if you have your own mission

01:14:58.560 that's fighting with his and there's conflict there like not a lot of high value men want that

01:15:04.480 high value men want women in their lives that make their lives easier who they feel supported by

01:15:09.520 so on and so forth but if you know if a woman's like no you know i i want to go work and i want

01:15:14.320 to go do all these things and like you know you can go take care of your stuff but i'm going to go

01:15:17.680 take care of my stuff like i think it's worth asking is the kind of man that you guys are looking for

01:15:23.680 what if the dreams are aligned well then that's that's a different story if you guys have a mutual

01:15:27.920 passion a shared passion the same vision and mission that's a different story you know then you guys

01:15:33.040 can partner in that way yeah um someone i know a man named michael foster or no i think it was

01:15:39.120 actually jordan peterson who said this he said that the best marriages can only have

01:15:43.200 don't quote me on this this might not be jordan peterson but somebody recently said the best

01:15:46.480 marriages only have one career under the household right when you have two careers two separate

01:15:51.600 missions this can create conflict and typically the highest value men in society like they need

01:15:55.680 a support system they need a partner you know and uh they don't have a lot of tolerance for women

01:16:01.040 that aren't bringing that like raw supportive femininity to the table also men want to come home

01:16:07.280 after a long day of work and just vent and the woman be there to be like the shoulder to cry on

01:16:11.920 like hey how was your day at work and they should be comfortable enough to be like you know what work

01:16:17.680 suck today yes and the woman should always be well not always but in a perfect relationship i guess they

01:16:25.280 would be the man would be you know what this is what happened and the girl's like okay well what are

01:16:30.400 we gonna do about it yes how are we gonna fix the problem not how are you gonna fix the problem so that

01:16:35.680 way i can go and do this yes like it may i add something yeah yeah go ahead like as a man on a

01:16:42.240 mission in life like the thing the thing about high performing men like there's our lives are

01:16:45.920 stressful there's hard stuff hard problems that we have to figure out on a daily basis and as career

01:16:50.800 woman i'm sure you guys understand the stresses that come with your career right i know that when i

01:16:56.320 come home from work especially if i have kids if i've spent a hard day snapping necks and cashing

01:17:01.440 checks i want to come home to my wife in the most feminine mood possible and i'm like like you said

01:17:06.880 like i want to be able to come home and vent and her just be like come here baby let me take care of

01:17:10.400 you but if you're in a position where you've had the stresses from your life and you come home and he

01:17:16.880 comes home and you don't have that feminine energy to bring your man what is there for him to support

01:17:22.880 him in the relationship and if you need that supportive energy from him like if you want a

01:17:29.120 really high value man like you have to ask yourself are you going to be able to get the support that

01:17:33.920 you're looking for from him is he going to need it from you will you be able to provide that to him

01:17:39.840 if you can't provide that feminine energy to him what is it that you're offering him you know

01:17:45.360 speak to that um and then i want to go back to you okay do you want to go first or um i feel like

01:17:54.080 in response to that i get what you're saying and i think if we're asking for more in this way i

01:18:00.160 understand that it gives and take i think relationships a really great relationship is

01:18:05.040 give and take it's reading the room seeing what that partner needs at that time versus that partner

01:18:08.960 because it shouldn't be one-sided where the man's always venting the women woman can never vent

01:18:15.040 venting is just you know yeah so yeah and i get what you're saying and in a good relationship

01:18:19.840 both people are going to be there to support one exactly and i feel like just because i'm saying i

01:18:23.920 want to work and i have a passion doesn't mean i can't also be feminine and support my husband or

01:18:28.560 whatever and the way you're taught and the thing is too i can't generalize for all women you can't

01:18:35.200 generalize for all men everyone's very individual very unique very different blah blah blah but the way

01:18:40.160 you're talking about high level men and being so driven about their career is exactly how i feel

01:18:46.160 about my career and i like like that's my life that's everything to me that is my first love that's

01:18:55.120 my passion and to have a partner that will respect that because i'll be able to respect him because i

01:19:00.000 know the feeling so well and i know how it feels to be so passionate where you live eat and breathe the

01:19:05.200 thing you do and it takes a lot to be extremely successful and so i will get it but yeah it's

01:19:11.040 going to be a lot harder because that means there might we might there might need to be a babysitter

01:19:14.560 there might need to be this that's why i feel like divorce rates are high because women are working in

01:19:18.640 the workforce a lot more than they were years ago but at the same time you're talking about women in

01:19:24.080 the 1800s being happier i mean that's a statistic based on there was no social media then it was very

01:19:30.000 hard to be aware you only know what you know so they only knew what they knew then but now we're

01:19:36.640 very aware and also it's funny how you say women were safer back in the day because they had men to

01:19:44.240 protect them but a lot of those men were abusing them there was a law that was passed in the 90s

01:19:50.720 that was about i'm not going to say the words were not allowed where it didn't allow men to just force

01:19:56.560 sex upon their wife this is a real rule that was passed so they couldn't do that in the 90s

01:20:02.160 and that's crazy to me because your man should be your protector should be the one who's there for

01:20:06.960 you and so a lot of time women had to stay in marriages because they couldn't just get a house

01:20:12.800 by themselves they needed the man to sign off they needed all this stuff and they a lot of the time

01:20:17.040 were married to a man that wasn't even actually protecting them and actually abusing them so you

01:20:21.280 keep saying a lot of the time and i understand what you're saying the points that you're making yeah

01:20:25.520 and also i don't have statistics so it's like you know like when i hear these feminists are like

01:20:29.840 they make sense and you don't have statistics either so it's like they they make i mean depends

01:20:33.840 on what you want to talk about right i could whip out a lot of stats for you but like i hear these

01:20:38.400 arguments from feminists but i feel like feminists paint the world prior to like the 1900s as this

01:20:44.640 world where just all men were beating and raping no that's not it like like the idea hold on the idea

01:20:50.960 that like a lot of men were doing this like my my question is how does it compare it to now like

01:20:57.520 what like i would love to know those stats because was it more men that are doing it now to be honest

01:21:02.320 i don't know the statistic but i think the thing i'm getting to is women are i think more comfortable

01:21:08.000 and confident to speak up because they it's all about this is because they see other women doing it

01:21:15.120 or feeling empowered or whichever you know like back then i didn't live in the 1800s i really don't

01:21:23.680 know what was going on yeah i do want to address because i think you guys have mentioned this a

01:21:27.120 couple times i mean there's been a lot of different talking points that have been brought up uh when it

01:21:32.240 comes to physical safety the way that you feel has absolutely no bearing on anything related to the

01:21:40.480 actual incidence rate of physical violence she's okay donated 99 red as driven as you are you will

01:21:48.320 likely end up successful and inadvertently by so doing will also isolate yourself from many good men

01:21:54.880 successful women also want equal quality men successful men want feminine women and don't care

01:22:01.280 about her success so i can i just speak on that really quick 10 seconds i don't agree because i've met

01:22:06.880 a lot of high value men who are very successful that want a woman who has passion and drive and

01:22:11.840 focus as well let me ask you a question let me ask you a question on that i can ask the whole table

01:22:16.560 yes or no do you think that men lie to get laid yes do you think men will tell you what you want to

01:22:26.240 hear to get laid never go ahead please answer please yeah and i think there's a difference between

01:22:34.960 passion driven and and what else did you say um well passion drive and something else but there's

01:22:41.040 a difference between having that and having a full-time career like you know 40 hours a week and you're

01:22:46.720 not going to ever be home or like be raising the kids or you know i think i think there's a difference

01:22:51.200 you can have those qualities while still being like a feminine woman like you're saying yeah like

01:22:56.000 i i'm a i consider myself very feminine like i'm you know especially my music i talk about very

01:23:01.680 feminine perspective of being relationships whatever but i'm also speaking from a career

01:23:06.240 that i'm assuming like we're artists so it's different our schedules are very different we are

01:23:11.200 very artistic expressive we're creating it's just a whole other mindset in life so i'm only speaking from

01:23:16.720 my creative career perspective and it's you know it's very so okay but to go back to the whole thing

01:23:25.120 so you're saying that these really successful men are like super stoked on the fact that you're

01:23:32.080 making money and have a career i would argue that from a pure practicality standpoint uh the more money

01:23:38.240 a man makes the less he cares about the money that you bring for your career whereas a guy who you know

01:23:45.840 the economic reality of today is most households are going to need two incomes so i would argue that

01:23:51.280 actually the less money a guy makes that might be the type of guy who is more inclined to have

01:23:57.360 some sort of care about the money you bring if he's looking long term into like okay i want a family

01:24:02.640 the economic reality shit's fucked inflation all that stuff we're going to need two incomes

01:24:08.480 um i think he might care but you you specifically mentioned like high earners and i would argue right

01:24:14.160 high earners actually the more the money the more money a guy makes the less he

01:24:18.400 fucking cares about how much money well i didn't talk about money i said specifically passion in

01:24:23.120 your career and drive i didn't say financial anything so it's like i'm talking about and and

01:24:28.560 you also said something about what if your dreams align and i feel like i'm meeting a lot of people

01:24:33.440 who are in a similar career where the dream does align yes here's the crazy thing about like male

01:24:39.760 and you might you guys have may have encountered this men in the entertainment industry especially like in

01:24:44.880 music if they have maybe they're a little more established in their music career

01:24:52.240 they probably want to fuck you and sleep with you and they're going to gas you up oh yeah you're such

01:24:58.160 a great singer in an effort to bed you oh let me help you produce i mean i feel like that's pretty

01:25:06.400 normal amongst can you tilt the microphone down yeah like yeah go ahead um kind of what you just asked

01:25:12.160 everyone do you think men lie to sleep with you i think that's just a generic question so it's not

01:25:17.360 even men in the industry i feel like men across the board might gas you up yeah like you kind of just

01:25:22.720 but it's so it's like i don't really know what the point is it's like yes and that's kind of your

01:25:28.240 choice and to whether you want to vet this guy out and figure out how really is or not because then you

01:25:32.960 can make the argument like is there no one real who ever thinks highly of a woman ever like no there are

01:25:38.560 real relationships and people who really respect women and what they do and care about unless you're

01:25:45.200 saying there's no such thing and love's not real and relationships aren't real and everyone's in a

01:25:48.880 lie like i don't think they're saying i think they're saying that the same men that will say they

01:25:52.960 will sleep with you because of the same career choice or whatever is not the same type of man that's

01:25:58.400 gonna eventually like end up marrying you because of the difference in what he wants versus like like

01:26:04.480 like what a typical high value man wants right a woman that will stay home and support him

01:26:08.240 is not going to typically want to marry somebody who has like a career with 40 hours a week not

01:26:13.200 going to be home a lot so yes those men will sleep with you but a lot of i don't think it's like you're

01:26:18.400 never going to find someone either i think you're a great person but i think they're just saying like

01:26:21.840 a lot of more career driven men are going to want women with a little bit less of that and i i would just

01:26:28.560 add that i think and it's evident men and women prioritize different things in terms of what we're

01:26:34.800 looking for in a partner in terms of what we find attractive uh i think if you want to pursue a career

01:26:41.440 that's fantastic for you but in terms of it making you more appealing or more attractive

01:26:46.480 to a partner like most men it's it's very rare that it's ever going to add

01:26:53.120 it it's not going to make you more attractive it might it's i it's almost always going to be a

01:27:00.960 neutral or it's probably just going to in a lot of ways it's going to be a negative yeah 100 i feel

01:27:06.560 like it depends on the guy it really does i know a lot of guys i'm going to be honest with you uh

01:27:11.040 none of them care about a woman's career in terms of like her attractiveness i feel like there's a lot

01:27:15.680 of high value men that are in relationships or married to women who have a career though

01:27:21.760 yeah they're in relationships or married to the point brian's making is that it's

01:27:28.880 for most honest men a career is not going to make a woman more attractive unless he like wants to be

01:27:35.520 taken care of or like brian was saying if there needs to be some sort of like split income scenario

01:27:40.080 where because you know it's it's expensive to live nowadays the traits you were describing before

01:27:45.680 like ambition and drive and all that kind of stuff those can be very attractive qualities in a woman for

01:27:50.880 certain men like i i personally like ambition and drive in a woman yeah not necessarily applied

01:27:56.080 towards her career though but as inborn personality traits because like different guys like different

01:28:01.040 types of women some guys i know they like like very feminine and soft women that like don't have

01:28:06.160 kind of that like you know that edge to them like i like a woman with like a little bit of an edge to

01:28:11.040 her because it's like there's there's a drive there and what i want to do the reason why i like that as a

01:28:16.240 a man is because i'm like okay i have ambitions and i'm like how can i sync up your drive towards

01:28:21.120 my mission so that we can really be effective as a couple one motorsports donated one hundred

01:28:28.080 ready are you are an artist the divorce lawyers watching this are taking notes men don't like women

01:28:34.880 who feel the need to be the center of attention all the time and that radiates from you like nuclear

01:28:40.400 fire nuclear fire you're a gold digger 304 it's kind of a compliment just saying that your energy

01:28:47.040 is like fire thank you thank you so much it's on brand for the redheadedness too wow okay does that

01:28:53.280 does that make sense though like what i'm saying yeah but i think my main statement is like you just

01:28:58.320 you can't speak for all men i can't speak for all women there are men who do want women with really

01:29:03.360 dope careers and are ambitious because that means they will understand that much more maybe his career and

01:29:08.800 they can align and they might be both doing the same thing they can go to work together they can do

01:29:12.400 this they can take off when they have a video shoot versus vice versa like it could be helpful and i

01:29:18.960 think that would go to her point about like having like shared dreams yes um but yeah generally speaking

01:29:25.360 though it's not like most dudes out there aren't like yeah i want to find a woman with a sick career

01:29:30.560 it's like that's not what most dudes care about at all yeah yeah go ahead um

01:29:35.280 i mean i think the reason that a lot of my answers aren't yes and no is because a lot of

01:29:41.760 answers aren't just a yes and no answer and so for this situation again i can't speak for all women

01:29:48.080 whatever whatever and i do think that there is a point there to say like high earners the kind of

01:29:53.040 like dream guy that all these girls are wanting yeah are they gonna give a fuck about you contributing

01:29:58.960 to the household income no they have enough money for you exactly and for all the kids it doesn't matter

01:30:03.840 that's not what i'm looking for that's not what a woman brings saint underscore easy donated 99

01:30:11.040 being successful for yourself selfish doesn't lead to happiness you will be rich bored and depressed

01:30:17.520 because you have no purpose in life i know this is true for men so it will be more so for women

01:30:24.080 stay home and sing a song for your husband based thank you saint if you want to continue go ahead yeah

01:30:29.760 yeah i guess what i have to do actually kind of has what i have to say has something to do with this

01:30:34.000 um yeah i don't think they give a fuck because women do offer something different than our money

01:30:39.280 for to a high value man a woman and her feminine offer something different to a masculine man yes which

01:30:44.560 is what i personally want because i don't want to go 50 50 in life i want a man who's like i'll take

01:30:50.640 care of you whatever whatever wait so you want a man who's like i'll take care of you whatever whatever

01:30:55.680 you want a masculine man but you also want to live the boss babe lifestyle and to have total

01:31:00.320 independence from him if you need it the lifestyle that i you're saying contradictory things here

01:31:05.520 so what i was about to say um is that for me pursuing a career career let's just call it that

01:31:14.480 it's more about me being the best version that i can be if i just stayed at home and didn't pursue

01:31:20.720 music i didn't write songs i didn't make content i didn't try to build a life on my own i would be a

01:31:26.560 shell of a human being and i wouldn't be able to offer my man the love the care the support i

01:31:33.280 wouldn't have the energy i know this just for myself if i wake up and i don't do what i'm supposed to do

01:31:39.120 here on earth which is to have interesting conversations with people is to make content is

01:31:42.960 to sing to make music to perform all of those things i'm not pursuing just to make money i'm pursuing

01:31:48.720 those things because it makes me feel whole and when i'm whole i can give to the men in my life

01:31:56.080 with like more vigor i'm able to be there to support him i'm able because i feel good about myself when

01:32:02.240 i do that can i tell you something sure i'm just gonna be totally honest like i don't think your

01:32:08.640 purpose in life is to like sit around and have good conversations and to like make content all that

01:32:12.880 kind of stuff now i'm not saying that you can't add value to society by doing those things

01:32:16.720 but like i'm not looking for a woman whose sole purpose in life is to make content and have

01:32:22.800 interesting conversations i want to get married and have a wife and build a family like i want a

01:32:30.320 woman who wants those things and sees her purpose in life as being the mother of our kids a great wife

01:32:38.320 and someone that i can build a super healthy and strong family with the kind of guy that you're looking

01:32:43.280 for like most high performing dudes if they're looking for a wife they don't just want some

01:32:49.280 chick who's making tiktoks all day they want a woman who wants to be the best homemaker and mom

01:32:54.080 and wife that she can possibly be and i'm saying that i can be the best homemaker homemaker and wife

01:32:59.920 that i can be when i know that i'm acting and doing the things that i'm meant to be doing and i know what

01:33:05.600 i'm you know you can be the best mom and wife as long as you're making tiktoks all day

01:33:08.960 it's not about making tiktoks all day it's doing what i'm meant to do it manifests through that

01:33:14.000 we'll let this come in with a successful female physician whose husband stays at home

01:33:19.200 the common complaint heard in the doctor's lounge is very frequently about her lazy husband

01:33:24.720 men have accepted our plight of being successful slash ambitious women cannot say the same today

01:33:30.720 oh that sounds like a black marriage thank you cam appreciate it you had something go ahead yeah so

01:33:39.680 here's something or like a fear that i have like kind of you like brought it to mind is that

01:33:46.160 as a woman if you give up all these things that could potentially keep her financially stable

01:33:55.280 lots of friends things like that and if you have a man that you give those things up with

01:34:00.320 and there's no guarantee that that man is going to stay because the second that that man leaves you

01:34:05.280 you lose everything right if his friends are your friends because he doesn't whatever he's not okay

01:34:09.760 with you hanging out with your friends then you lose your friends you lose uh like financial

01:34:16.480 stability you lose everything if that man leaves you so it's like we risk everything that's what the

01:34:22.240 purpose of marriage is yeah can i jump in i gotta clean this this is bugging me yeah i think you can

01:34:27.600 jump yeah there's a lot to say about that marriage so

01:34:32.560 do you actually have ocd uh a little bit yeah but um so marriage is actually what that security

01:34:39.280 is for right when you get married and you get a prenup and stuff like that you're protecting yourself

01:34:43.920 from that financial burden of you know if he does end up divorcing you you get half of what he earns

01:34:50.560 and you know you have something to start yourself off with but i think like it's a false

01:34:54.080 dichotomy nowadays to say that you can have a full career and a family at the same time because

01:34:59.040 you know who's going to be raising your children like either way you would have to put that into

01:35:04.480 a third party yeah that that would be the sacrifice the children would feel that sacrifice they're not

01:35:08.640 going to have their parent and um yeah i kind of forgot the rest of my thought here we we we'll come

01:35:15.200 back to this conversation i need to get a couple chats by the way guys some of these have totally fell

01:35:20.320 off so i'm not going to be able to trigger them i have them it won't pop up i can still see them

01:35:24.640 and read them but it's not able to be triggered so i'm going to just try to get through these chats

01:35:28.640 after this i definitely want to get back to her question because it's oh yeah do you want to

01:35:32.000 actually do it before the chat yeah let's do it for the chat to her point like i mean that's that's

01:35:37.120 you know you're you're raising good questions and to her point that is the purpose of marriage the

01:35:43.440 purpose of marriage modest hikima donated 100 the women has nothing to do with your job etc high

01:35:53.760 ready welcome to kindergarten where we listen with our ears and think with our brains before

01:35:58.640 we vomit up nonsensical bs are you on the top 10 charter and don't care then someday 2 l8

01:36:07.520 okay here's what i'm going to do for the tts is i'm going to just pause i know i know in the

01:36:14.080 description it says instant i'm not going to boost it i'm going to pause it for 30 minutes and then

01:36:20.080 what i'll do is all the ones that come through all the ones that come through i'll trigger them all at

01:36:24.720 the same time so sorry it's not going to be instant guys but it's just been too disruptive go ahead

01:36:29.760 thank you yeah that's as i was saying that that is the purpose of marriage you know like if you're

01:36:34.000 marrying somebody you're and if you take it seriously most people don't take it seriously

01:36:37.680 nowadays like as a christian i take it extremely seriously the woman that i marry like that's it

01:36:43.040 we're together for life and i'm making a promise to her i'm taking care of you for life like that's

01:36:48.080 my job i'm not leaving you hanging you know a lot of people don't take that promise seriously for one

01:36:53.680 and because a lot of people don't take that promise seriously that's why divorce laws exist

01:36:58.080 right so like as a guy for example if hypothetically i married a woman and then cheated on her

01:37:03.520 she would have every right to divorce me and take half of everything i have and that's why those

01:37:08.400 divorce laws exist and alimony and all that kind of stuff like the purpose of it is to protect women

01:37:13.840 like if you're a woman and you find a guy who's traditional and he's like hey i want to make you

01:37:17.840 a stay-at-home mom give up your career we're going to have kids together if you spend 10 or 15 years

01:37:23.600 not working on your career and then he just drops you like you're screwed financially you know and

01:37:28.320 that's why divorce laws exist to protect women unfortunately because of feminism and all sorts of

01:37:33.200 other stuff it's now to the point where men can get screwed for no reason with divorce but like

01:37:38.160 that's that's the purpose of marriage like if you're making an agreement with the guy hey i'm

01:37:42.000 going to give up my finances and all this stuff like there's it's a promise of protection yeah i

01:37:47.040 think my problem is trust too like you know like that part and also you're dating somebody for a long

01:37:51.920 period of time before you get married so what about that dating period i guess

01:37:57.120 we can maybe pick this back up but i do need to get through a couple chat chats a b check thing for the

01:38:01.760 20 gifted memberships again these i'm not going to be able to trigger them on the screen but i will

01:38:05.680 be able to read them we have verbato microchimerism contact with semen through an orifice allows the

01:38:12.560 chromosomes of a male to absorb into a woman present in the blood spinal fluid and brain permanently

01:38:19.680 the ghosts of boyfriends past forever interact with a woman's neurology and then you sent a follow-up

01:38:25.440 the chromosomes also interact with the fetus during gestation influencing its development for every

01:38:32.400 past sexual partner a woman has they are cheating on their future husband with you can read more about

01:38:38.240 it at the national center of biological information and this is called microchimerism i've heard about

01:38:44.800 this yeah i've heard about that it's honestly like the sketchiest thing in the world it's basically the

01:38:50.160 idea that like for every to put it crudely for every guy that a woman is with sexually if he's blowing

01:38:57.840 loads inside of her he's actually leaving his dna in her body and then it like incorporates itself

01:39:03.360 into her body and can also interact with the fetus so like if a woman's had a lot of past sexual

01:39:08.480 partners there's evidence that her child may end up having dna from her previous partners what the

01:39:14.320 bs i mean it's that is bs it might be real it might not be but there's believe it i i believe

01:39:20.240 it's possible yeah why well i mean come on we'll have to see the studies yeah we'd have to look at

01:39:25.360 the stuff we'd have to there's one i think there's one but it could be who knows okay if it's real it's

01:39:32.640 sketch yeah i learned that like in a mother's womb her first child's dna is like always in there

01:39:38.320 and like the second child so like if you're a fifth child you have the dna from all your siblings

01:39:43.040 before so i think it could be true and so you're saying if a woman has there's a different father

01:39:47.360 for the various children then another man's d child's dna is in your other kids that's crazy

01:39:55.360 who knows who uh you're saying that it messes with her mentality right let's let's move let's move on

01:40:01.440 that's not what i said uh derek the traitor again sorry guys that i'm not able to pull these up but i'm

01:40:05.760 i'm gonna read them ranking the girls out of 10 when it comes to looks only okay wow 10 being the

01:40:11.280 highest starting to left the chase 8 5 4 1 5 5 6 7 okay thank you i guess nika ever had a date

01:40:19.680 appointment i think she means d appointments just before facing something important share your oh

01:40:25.360 this is nika from uh two shows ago she's one of the stab she stabbed a dude okay podcast she's gonna

01:40:33.920 come back on the show so podcast caesar pre-court rituals d appointment um ever had a date a d appointment

01:40:40.640 just before facing something important have any of you ever had a d appointment before going to

01:40:46.320 prison or jail or going to a criminal court proceeding involving you involving stabbing

01:40:53.520 somebody involving terrorism no let's start over here no no no how about just no no this is

01:41:04.160 these questions no no okay um here we go hold up all right we have i believe this is the next one

01:41:12.480 doc vanabless three e's equality of value is inarguable equality of opportunity is desirable equality of

01:41:20.400 outcome results in tyranny and is the guiding principles behind deadly cultural marxism fact it

01:41:26.640 is an indictment of our education system that some ladies can't grasp it from donk vanabless it's

01:41:34.400 facts yeah good comment that's i i never heard the the three e thing and i i've heard of like the

01:41:40.480 equality of opportunity equality of outcome but equality of value i haven't heard that one but i

01:41:44.720 absolutely agree very good comment what is it that you're agreeing with well his whole statement

01:41:49.520 but i've never heard this three e's thing i've heard of equality of opportunity equality of outcome

01:41:54.400 but equality of you're agreeing that equality of value is true or false true okay yeah

01:42:00.880 i think it's equality of value in the sense of like your value in terms of your life you know yeah

01:42:05.920 yeah uh let's see we have the saint and the sinner are we going to talk about how tiffany and maybe

01:42:14.800 others have the archaic belief that black into oh my god that black individuals are less uh tiffany

01:42:24.080 do you want to address this well i never said this guy's untrustworthy or capable i just said

01:42:29.920 that is this the saint and the sinner go ahead sorry tiffany what did you say i said they're less safe

01:42:36.640 less safe right are you basing this on personal experience or crime statistics

01:42:40.560 crime statistics okay what crime statistics are you basing this on

01:42:44.800 i guess just violence is this smart gun shooting is that 13 percent of the population is responsible for

01:42:51.440 50 percent of the violent crime yeah yeah real i think it now it's 14 percent than 62 about a race

01:42:58.960 and you're racist that's crazy what'd you say what'd you say like a statistic is racist yeah that's

01:43:05.360 that's crazy yeah yeah uh i think this is marquette he's a youtuber um yo what's up man i'd like your

01:43:12.400 stuff if you ever want to be on the show we'd love to have you on if that is actually uh the saint and

01:43:17.200 the sinner mark his name's marquette uh yeah man would love to have you on uh shoot me a dm on

01:43:22.160 instagram at whatever uh if you're down to come on what content does he make uh he does he he does

01:43:28.000 some live shows like live podcasting and he talks about dating and how many how many followers or

01:43:34.560 subscribers why i think he's got like i don't know there's like gold diggers and then there's follow

01:43:40.960 diggers like tiffany yo wait marquette would you could i set you up with tiffany

01:43:48.480 she hasn't heard his follow account yet brian i think it's over 100k so yeah all right and i think

01:43:54.960 let me just double check make sure that was nika doc let me just double check make sure we got okay

01:44:02.880 cool we're all caught up there and then we have this one super chat here on youtube win pc 99 girl on

01:44:08.240 the far right oh she's gone okay i'll wait i'll wait for that um and then i wanted to pull up more

01:44:13.840 of her videos but while we uh here while we wait for her to come back i have some pre-show notes from

01:44:19.600 people so let me get into that uh let's start with you ali ali you said i don't really like hookup

01:44:25.280 culture for myself but i had a big military phases when i was 20 to 22. i don't know if that was a

01:44:33.440 typo when you said i had a big military did you mean ho phase um well military phase slash military

01:44:39.760 ho phase yeah i guess you could say that um whoops so were you in the military no so basically what that

01:44:47.760 means oh goodness so um i just spit it out just spit it out i did not know that this was gonna be

01:44:56.480 wrong okay um so um i met this friend and she invited me to this bonfire and i was like sure why not and

01:45:08.240 literally 99 of the people were military and at the time i was very like oh my gosh all of them are so

01:45:15.040 attractive um so i wasn't really like a hoe i guess you could say i was very like i'd talk to a

01:45:22.800 guy things would get serious and then stuff would happen and then kind of would just drop off like

01:45:29.520 nothing would happen like after that it kind of just you guys know what i mean like yeah we just kind

01:45:34.800 of just the feelings just disappeared uh and then on to the next one and on to the next one and then

01:45:40.720 yeah how many uh how many of these military dudes were there oh goodness um

01:45:52.640 i'd say probably like 10. is that we have that's about half a platoon i think that's half

01:45:58.800 a platoon can you show us the platoon show us the platoon that's a platoon wait can you show us the

01:46:05.200 other one is that navy or is that marine the other one i think it's a tap over okay no i was i was

01:46:11.760 very navy it was a navy thing so like half of it's like front that's a platoon that's more than 10. that

01:46:18.560 is a platoon okay are we brigade is that brigade battalion what are we talking here

01:46:26.400 um i don't i don't i said 10 right yeah it was it was around there 10 what you hooked up with 10

01:46:39.920 around that

01:46:44.000 yeah multiply it by three and that's the real number okay um so you were not in the military i was not in

01:46:50.880 the military no and did you say it was what branch of the military it was it was navy i had a very i'd

01:46:57.760 see i don't know why all of a sudden they'd be like i'm in the i'm in the navy and i'd be like oh my

01:47:02.400 gosh hi i'm ally i had a lot of growing up to do i am not the same person i was back then just want to

01:47:09.760 let you guys know of course but how old are you what does it say like 20 to 22 i'm 25 now 20 20 to 22

01:47:17.840 so you've grown out of your military phase i got my heart broken and then i was kind of just over

01:47:23.120 it military then i kind of wanted the traditional standpoint and i kind of grew out of it i was

01:47:29.680 delulu i was in my delulu land delulu land yeah i was very much in what's your tattoo say there

01:47:35.760 they're oh goodness um so i'm obsessed with this rapper and it's the crazy kind um the crazy kind

01:47:44.000 it's from g easy gerald that guy oh you don't know g easy i have no g easy his name is gerald

01:47:50.960 he'll be like young gerald like no i don't really listen okay well it's in his song him and i and

01:47:56.240 it's with halsey they dated a really long time ago i like that song is that i have no idea well

01:48:01.280 wait so just clarification was it a squad section platoon company battalion regiment brigade division

01:48:07.120 or court none of the above and it was 10 years since you memorized all that for the show yeah

01:48:13.200 i go above and beyond i go above and beyond every show yeah it was and and back to what you said they

01:48:21.680 told me what i wanted to hear and i was very naive if they were like oh yeah i really like you like

01:48:27.760 i'm sure they probably had some feelings in the beginning but then once stuff happened it kind of

01:48:33.840 just i want to i want to make a point oh okay it's not this isn't going to be offensive towards

01:48:39.440 you or anything i just want to make a point and this is to brian's point earlier ladies men you have

01:48:46.400 to be careful tells us in the bible to guard our hearts men will tell you what you want to hear in

01:48:50.800 order to sleep with you you've got to write that down yeah men will tell men will tell you what what

01:48:57.280 you want to hear yeah again i love bombing they love bombing love bombing figure out who it is that you

01:49:03.280 are what it is that you like what it is that you want they'll tell you what you want to hear in

01:49:06.320 order to sleep with you you got to be careful of this super common that's why i left the face

01:49:12.080 how women get their hearts broken be careful out there one too many military men

01:49:17.600 you have experience with that no i mean i i haven't dated one but i know how like promiscuous they are

01:49:22.800 like i've had lots of them like hit me up like super young too like i'm 33 like it's all like 18 year

01:49:30.320 olds and they're just there's there's always just so many they just they just want to fuck you know

01:49:35.360 yeah so so going back to you my first love never really told anybody just one day i was at work

01:49:40.720 and posted another girl and she ended up being pregnant to this day we never broke up we kind

01:49:46.320 of stopped talking so um my first love was when i was like freshly 18 got my snapchat the first day he

01:49:55.360 added me and we were together for a little over a year and you know we said like bye i love you

01:50:04.720 whatever and i go to work and an hour later i'm getting my phone blown up like hey have you seen

01:50:10.800 a snapchat hey have you seen a snapchat i go on a snapchat and it's some girl on the pregnancy test of

01:50:16.720 positive and it was not me i have not talking to that man talk to talk to that's not english spoke

01:50:22.800 thank you um i have not spoken to him ever since we never really broke up it kind of just

01:50:30.400 yeah how did you feel when you saw that um

01:50:35.600 i don't remember honestly i kind of block it out but it it was kind of it was like pretty

01:50:41.040 traumatizing didn't you say you congratulated him nobody needs to um a couple months later i can't

01:50:48.320 stop it that was years ago i was like 19 but yeah i did congratulate him he said thanks

01:50:53.760 after that i did not talk to him okay i'll just trigger this

01:51:00.720 yo zentians good to see you man child support loss of access to kids a marriage isn't just about you

01:51:08.800 the amalgamation of the sacrificed freedom yields your legacy future yeah real women demurely show

01:51:15.520 what they offer and quickly become wives well said man zentians based zentians thank you man very

01:51:22.160 good to see you back in the chat man it's been a minute uh let's see and then last thing here with

01:51:26.800 ally you said your most recent ex ghosted you and left a note on your bed breaking up with you because

01:51:33.600 he didn't want to be the guy that broke up with you over text yeah this was the one that broke up

01:51:40.800 with me in march um so oh modest he came a donated 100.50 again for a little bit i think chase misspoke

01:51:51.360 earlier equality of outcome is extra help based on situation to get outcome affirmative action equality of

01:51:59.280 opportunity is equal chance to compete best candidate gets outcome chase for aft act from

01:52:06.400 3la didn't want tts sucked oh it's all good cool yeah um if i misspoke thanks for clarifying yeah i

01:52:13.760 think you might have what did i say you you i think you said equality of outcome in place for equality of

01:52:21.440 opportunity i think you meant to say equality of opportunity but whatever um do you have a quick thing

01:52:26.960 about the the note on the bed yeah so um long story short um i was at work um he just kind of

01:52:37.520 just stopped talking to me and i was just like did you bump your head like what's going on uh leave

01:52:42.240 work early my friend picks me up takes me home uh i walk in not even realizing that all of his stuff is

01:52:48.880 gone and i just so happen to be like just cleaning my bed like normal and all of a sudden i just feel like

01:52:55.360 this like heavy note and it was the key to my room and then just a note basically saying like i'm

01:53:01.360 sorry i don't want to be the guy to break up with you over text but like this is done that's insanely

01:53:06.560 lame yeah and it was it was a very rough couple of months do not want to live that here let's let's

01:53:13.280 pull up some of the more uh more of the videos then we'll get that super chat um i think we just watch

01:53:18.240 all the videos maybe and then yeah go ahead going 50 50 with a man is not equal we live in a culture

01:53:26.560 and a society that benefits men specifically when it comes to finances there's so much more

01:53:32.160 opportunity and it's so much easier for a man than a woman women are at a huge disadvantage and even

01:53:37.360 still women thrive in a man's world given the obstacles that women have to overcome that men have

01:53:44.080 probably no idea that we even do paying for a date that he initiated is one hot and two the least

01:53:49.840 he could do okay okay um quite a few things there so are you talking about the patriarchy

01:53:57.920 in what well in that in that clip um you said it's a man's world i think yes you said it's easier for

01:54:05.440 men women are disadvantaged and that women face obstacles so well one do you think that there's a

01:54:13.200 patriarchy yes okay what does that mean um that men hold greater power than women how so how how do

01:54:24.800 men hold greater power than women yeah um well in this video i was specifically talking about the

01:54:29.840 working world i think in the working world it's like the structure of the workforce is built for like

01:54:35.760 for men how so i mean like don't more women have college degrees are more women college educated

01:54:41.920 yeah i think the rates are when it comes to getting college degrees college admission actually

01:54:48.320 attending college i think it's like 60 40. wow that's a huge advantage that women have so how does the

01:54:55.040 workforce benefit men more is it college education that we're talking about or is it earning power well

01:55:01.120 since 1980 i'm not talking about college well just really quick on college since you brought it up

01:55:04.800 ever since 1980 it might even i think it starts 1979 there have been more women going to college

01:55:11.680 graduating from college getting college degrees so that's a four more than 40 year period so women

01:55:16.960 who graduated college in 1980 are now basically reaching retirement age so we've had basically

01:55:23.440 an entire a whole career span of women who in that time period were graduating at higher rates than

01:55:32.080 men were from university cool yeah so how is the workforce more beneficial towards men you said earning

01:55:39.280 power can you provide evidence yeah i think you know with a lot of the like more like standard uh like

01:55:46.800 tried and true i'd suppose like high earning positions like men such as doctors lawyers um i don't know

01:55:56.480 i'm kind of what's the percentage between men and women in those professions i don't know all of the

01:56:01.440 stats like i'm i'm not here to bring you stats but do you think are there more do you guys have stats

01:56:06.640 about the opposite like truly curious i'm i'm just i'm curious because you're making a claim but i'm

01:56:12.160 wondering if you have a counterclaim i'm wondering if you have no well you made a claim and yeah in a

01:56:16.480 court of law for example if you present a claim you have to provide evidence for it i'm not in a court of

01:56:20.000 law no you're not chatting in a podcast you're having a conversation and i'm saying do you have any

01:56:24.240 evidence for your claims um i mean i've read stuff before do i have it up right now no um i don't

01:56:30.080 think we like need stats like yeah do we need stuff no well i'm saying like if you just walk into a

01:56:34.400 hospital who are you going to see primarily as nurses and women right so women are outperforming

01:56:39.120 men it's i don't have stats either but like nowadays he's right outperforming as in college

01:56:43.920 and getting education to where they can get a job like that they're outperforming men nowadays like but

01:56:49.600 i mean relating it back to your original thing you want men to pay for the first date so i i feel

01:56:57.280 like you cannot on one hand demand first off women are paid equally that's already been uh legislated

01:57:07.520 back in the the i think that was in the 60s so it's actually uh if you as a woman can prove

01:57:14.480 in a court of law that there are men with the exact same uh seniority in your company if you

01:57:21.120 can prove and show that he's getting paid more for the exact same work you can actually bring a lawsuit

01:57:27.360 for discrimination so we've already legislated that legislated that it's illegal to pay women

01:57:34.800 less than men for the same work so i mean she's she's 23 and making six figures why why don't other

01:57:42.480 women do that um because they're not interested in studying that oh so that's not a choice that's

01:57:48.800 a choice yeah because also at the same time you know if you wanted if you wanted to become a welder

01:57:54.160 you could go learn it and within a year and a half two years you could be making six figures why

01:57:57.840 don't more women do that where's the disadvantage well i think the thing is with with with that

01:58:02.400 is that feminists when it comes to equal opportunity and equal pay you only want to secure the cushy

01:58:09.360 comfortable high-paying air-conditioned office jobs you don't want equality when it comes to

01:58:16.080 for example dangerous jobs that happen to pay well or just physically laborious jobs like

01:58:25.680 i think we should ask someone with experience like would you say have you ever experienced more

01:58:29.760 obstacles getting to your career or like men being given more benefits in the workplace than you

01:58:35.200 um for me i i don't think so but um i i don't have that much experience i guess i just started

01:58:43.280 working like a year or yeah year ago but i also know that at least in my company we just we recently

01:58:49.840 have this like internship program and it's only like females in tech program so i feel like we're

01:58:56.400 trying to get our females in here so i don't think it would be unfair now if there was something else

01:59:01.920 like some sort of male only opportunity that would be feminists would be screaming at their top of

01:59:08.320 their lungs how um so you're making the claim that women are disadvantaged in the workforce and that

01:59:14.960 they uh don't have the same earning opportunities that men do this is a breakdown of many of the blue

01:59:20.960 collar jobs throughout society on my phone right here this is a breakdown of many of the blue collar

01:59:25.680 jobs throughout society with uh how what percentage of each of those jobs are worked by men will you go

01:59:31.280 ahead and read the first 10 statistics off of this please just read them uh into your microphone

01:59:39.360 roofer 90 logger 93 veteran 90 plumber 97 mechanic 92 carpenter 92 coal miner 94 firefighter

01:59:46.400 firefighter 95 iron worker 92 so those are like well-paying decent paying blue collar jobs that are

01:59:52.640 completely yeah you don't want any of those jobs but you could have any of those jobs as a woman

01:59:57.760 uh why i mean i i just i don't understand it's like i'm hearing like hey you know with us women

02:00:04.960 are disadvantaged but you just told me i don't want any of those well-paying jobs is it disadvantage

02:00:09.680 or is it that you just don't want the job no feminism can only exist when there's air-conditioned

02:00:14.160 comfortable office jobs that don't require physically laborious work so true

02:00:19.520 it's not true computer science it's true women don't want women don't again you're speaking on

02:00:24.160 behalf of people that you aren't are you know what i mean it's like men don't men this like i'm not

02:00:29.520 a man okay so she just said she doesn't want any of these jobs well that's her you know what i mean

02:00:33.600 like there are some women that i'm sure have those jobs you can't generalize a whole gender there are

02:00:39.120 some well okay for for example plumbers three percent of women are plumbers or three percent of plumbers are

02:00:44.640 women yeah sure they're not 100 for a reason so women do have the opportunity equal opportunity

02:00:49.840 to pursue every one of those jobs so i don't think we have an inequality at any point i mean

02:00:55.600 if you want to talk about value like inequality and value i don't think it's the same but i think that

02:01:01.440 the question that you need to ask yourself when it comes to the wage gap this career stuff it's not

02:01:06.880 whether it's not whether it exists but why it exists and at least my view is the answer is not

02:01:15.520 sexism there's many reasons i think for the earnings gap and i would say a big one is women's

02:01:21.520 own choices women choose to go into certain careers certain fields same with like what they

02:01:28.080 study in university women choose to go into disciplines that happen to pay less so which is

02:01:34.160 okay can you give like an example of what like that specific women choosing not to go yeah choosing

02:01:40.560 a career that pays less like what do you give an example i guess okay so who here wants to be an

02:01:45.680 iron worker i i have we have some infographics on it but like who who wants to be an iron worker or

02:01:50.400 welder at this who would be interested in making six figures doing those jobs i would but it's a little

02:01:56.480 dangerous it's it's quite dangerous it's quite dangerous would you want to do that no would you want

02:02:01.680 to do that no would you want to do that i might if the check is right okay so yeah you're making

02:02:07.360 six figures you might be one of that like part of the five percent most women wouldn't want to do

02:02:11.520 that and so it's like okay you have these blue collar jobs that i don't know what iron working

02:02:15.840 pays but like welding for example it's a it's a dangerous job but it's not because of sexism that

02:02:21.120 women aren't making the same money in those careers it's because you guys just don't want them i think

02:02:25.680 that the disadvantage is um partly because like being a woman i mean again there's a variety of

02:02:33.200 women but maybe like a good like chunk of us like we're not made to do those things like i know that

02:02:40.480 i'm not supposed to do any of those things like so in a way i guess i technically can do those things

02:02:47.040 but i'm not made for those kinds of work so because i'm kind of made for different kinds of work

02:02:52.160 i'm like technically as i can but i'm not going to make that kind of a money so that kind of money

02:02:58.640 so if a man asked me out on a date and his biology is more built to have a higher earning job

02:03:04.240 then when we go on a date i would just expect him to take care of the date because i'm not made

02:03:10.000 for those kinds of jobs and feminine excuse me feminism says women can do everything a man can

02:03:17.360 do and they can do it better i you're telling me as a self self-professed feminist i'm not made to

02:03:23.440 do those are we able to pull up the definition of i think feminism has many there's many different

02:03:27.280 there's many different kinds but if you look it up i'm curious of what the main one comes up as

02:03:31.840 yeah i don't agree with that kind of feminism i will say that's that's fine that's fair and

02:03:37.040 you know we can debate the the definition of feminism but to go back to one of the original

02:03:41.200 points that you made you said that doctors and lawyers men get paid more in those industries and i

02:03:46.160 would agree with what you're saying that you are not made for the same type of work that men are

02:03:51.840 i would say our natures are different as human beings like i as a man i'm geared towards different

02:03:56.880 work than a woman is yes that's not a bad thing no it is not it is going to create inequality though

02:04:01.840 because for example you know you mentioned lawyers there's a there's many more high paid lawyers

02:04:07.440 that are men than there are women i'm sure part of that is because if you want to become a highly

02:04:12.320 paid lawyer as a woman like you're going to have to freaking grind your butt off through your 20s

02:04:17.280 and your 30s yeah i'm not meant to do that exactly and so but that and that proves my point the

02:04:22.560 difference isn't because it's a man's world and it's sexism that's disadvantaging women it's

02:04:27.360 because you don't want to work through your 20s and 30s grinding at a hundred hour per week job as

02:04:33.120 a lawyer so it's not sexism that creates the disparity it's women just don't want to do it

02:04:38.080 but i have a question like does that make sense what's your question go ahead uh i i was wondering

02:04:44.400 like why you or any other woman i guess uh don't really go to computer science more often because

02:04:50.640 i feel like as a tech job we well i sit at the office if i well if i go to the office and we have

02:04:57.120 ac and it's like all comfortable and stuff and we also make good money so why don't you do that i wish

02:05:02.640 i wish my brain was built like that i just am not like that personally and i do think that more

02:05:07.520 women can do things like that you know have and i think that it's typically thought of as a male

02:05:12.640 job and a lot of girls just maybe aren't really thinking about that maybe they think about being

02:05:16.720 a homemaker or a therapist or whatever um but yeah i think that there should be or not should but

02:05:24.800 there's a lot of opportunity there for women i think most women most feminists would rather just

02:05:29.440 complain about the wage gap than actually take jobs they don't want when you said like um just now

02:05:34.960 about how if a woman wants to be like a really high paying like on top of her game lawyer she's

02:05:40.960 gonna have to really bust her ass but do you do you think she has to bust her ass more than a man who

02:05:46.080 has the same desire or the equal amount she might have to bust her butt why do you think because i mean

02:05:52.080 law for example well i'll use my own career as an example so i've been doing brand consulting with a

02:05:58.720 company and uh one of our chief executive officers is a female and in her industry she's like she works

02:06:06.800 in finance basically drafts uh financial agreements pitches super high powered like billionaires

02:06:13.760 regularly right she's the only woman that does it in her industry there's maybe like one or two others

02:06:20.800 that are at the at the level that she's at and it's not because of sexism it's because she has to bring

02:06:25.440 really strong masculine energy to the table and people will take her seriously when she does it

02:06:30.960 like she's a professional ball buster she's a badass but she has an energy that's much more aggressive

02:06:36.080 than most men have and because of that men take her seriously i know maybe two women that could bring

02:06:44.960 that same energy to the table yeah and be taken seriously by men yeah and it's because it's just

02:06:50.400 like women are they're typically not wired in that way whereas so it's something like law like

02:06:55.760 it's not necessarily because of sexism that there's not as many uh high performing female lawyers it's

02:07:01.280 like it's a very aggressive job for sure it's a super aggressive job but i do think what you just said

02:07:06.560 does support the feminist argument that a woman does have to be a little bit more stepped into her

02:07:11.520 masculinity in order to be respected why can't she be feminine but also a lawyer and still have her

02:07:17.360 word be respected you know like i can say something in a way the idea that's maybe like more sweet but

02:07:23.760 like they're gonna be like oh my god this like girl it's it's not meant to be feminine they're meant to

02:07:28.480 be cut right but like i but i naturally am just a feminine talking girl so why do i have to put on

02:07:35.200 more of like a masculine character in order to be respected though and that's the feminist argument is

02:07:40.400 like i should be able to be mean and have the same knowledge and education as you and be able to speak

02:07:45.600 the way i'm speaking without having to be an absolute like vicious beast about it in order

02:07:50.560 to get my word across it's i hear what you're saying it's not the result of sexism for example

02:07:56.560 for me doing business like i have to aggressively negotiate with people when i'm doing business

02:08:02.240 for sure and if i wanted to just like approach it from like a soft lackadaisical perspective yeah

02:08:06.720 that's not good nobody would take me seriously and it's not it has nothing to do with my sex it's just

02:08:12.320 the energy that you're bringing to the table like but i do if i'm looking at a lawyer let me put it

02:08:17.040 like this if i'm if i'm looking for a lawyer let's say we have two people one's a man one's a woman

02:08:22.560 the man is kind of like a feminine and soft and he's not particularly aggressive the female is a

02:08:27.040 total ball buster and she's very aggressive i'm gonna hire her most likely rather than a soft

02:08:32.000 effeminate man because she's gonna do the job better she's masculine energy she's masculine energy but

02:08:37.200 again you're speaking from your perspective and i think there are some people in the world that no

02:08:41.920 matter what they might still look at the woman especially depending on how she looks or even

02:08:47.680 she'll have to maybe even be more self-conscious of what she's wearing just to even extra be taken

02:08:53.600 more seriously like especially when you look at women in politics when you look at female lawyers

02:08:58.480 and in order to be respected like you're saying like they really are super tough they have to you

02:09:04.160 know be it's a tough world yeah it is for sure and i definitely but i also agree right like a man

02:09:09.520 being kind of wishy-washy like you don't want that either you want a man who's also very firm and just

02:09:13.920 equally speaking his mind in that way but i do feel like because a woman is a woman i feel like they're

02:09:20.560 like you said earlier like a couple minutes ago you said she might have to work harder than a man yeah

02:09:26.560 she might have she might have to work against her nature i mean let me let me ask you this let's say

02:09:31.040 you're going into a big lawsuit over some music stuff maybe somebody stole your music you have

02:09:35.840 to sue somebody for five hundred thousand dollars you got two people one's an aggressive man the

02:09:40.320 other is a soft feminine soft-spoken woman who's not particularly aggressive you need to hire a lawyer

02:09:45.440 which of those two individuals are you going to hire definitely the aggressor exactly for sure

02:09:49.520 that's not a result of sexism it's just because you want the person who's going to get the job done

02:09:53.600 best right and that has nothing to do with sexism for sure but i do think women do have to put

02:09:58.720 on somewhat more of a hat in order to do that you have to defy your own nature um and just like

02:10:04.640 and define social norms and like stereotypical things feminism says we need to change we need

02:10:13.440 to change that we need to change the fact that women need to adopt a different nature to succeed

02:10:18.640 that's what feminism says i don't think that but i do think there is an initial assumption a lot of

02:10:23.760 people in the world make if they see one person versus another just sure yeah every everybody

02:10:30.000 everybody comes to conclusions because i do agree like in order to be a lawyer you do have to be

02:10:34.000 very tough you have to be speaking with very strong will obviously you want that but at the

02:10:39.680 same time there are a lot of people that regardless of the woman still doing that they're

02:10:43.120 still going to view her a certain way it's just you know human nature but it's like yeah it's not

02:10:48.160 nature yeah it's not like mean or like um like you're discriminating against somebody it's just

02:10:55.200 like you said you're working against your nature so you're working harder to make yourself more

02:11:00.240 respected but like if you get a police officer and he's acting all feminine and just like oh no one's

02:11:04.720 gonna respect someone like that or like a lawyer if you walk into a courtroom and they're just kind

02:11:10.080 of oh going around being all feminine like you're gonna lose and you know you're gonna lose that trial

02:11:14.960 like but i'm saying like for a woman who's not acting like that though but like there are

02:11:18.560 those people we know yeah but to act cutthroat and aggressive and strong like that is a masculine

02:11:24.160 trait so to be feminine and to do that you're going against your biology and you're taking on more

02:11:29.040 masculine traits i think she's saying even with a woman who has that masculine energy some people

02:11:33.920 still won't take her seriously and yeah you're not wrong i mean there's just natural biological sexism

02:11:38.880 that exists between both sexes for sure i'm gonna let a couple of these chats come through

02:11:42.400 got a couple notifications coming we have carla catherine giller rains we donated 99

02:11:50.320 this new generation of women are ruining our chances with real traditional man which are

02:11:55.520 becoming a dying breed oh christ is lord i wish more men think like chase

02:12:02.400 christ is lord amen also thank you for the compliment carla thank you appreciate it carla we have another

02:12:06.720 one coming in here here in just a second just a second we got a great moment grid one motorsports

02:12:14.640 yeah these these are going to linger okay we got trevor brown thank you for the membership man

02:12:19.600 grid one motorsports thank you sir one hundred dollars cheek copy kiko do you think before you speak

02:12:26.800 can a man sell pictures of his thumb peron of and pull six digits a month it's true can a man walk into

02:12:32.480 human resources department and get hired simply because he is a man affirmative action you do not

02:12:37.760 know the answer please learn oh oh oh okay grid one motorsports all right can i say something there's

02:12:45.040 another okay make it you guys do you know the lumberjack on instagram that makes like millions of

02:12:50.240 dollars yeah just the guy who just smashes i love that exactly and he's like super famous just from

02:12:56.000 cutting wood based off of his physique and he doesn't make millions of dollars does he come on

02:13:00.480 the show i invited you know what i'm talking about the guy who like tat who's got the sleeve and he yeah

02:13:06.080 yeah he cuts wood uh leo i'll pull that up again in a sec donated 99 dollars yo thank you cam

02:13:12.080 this is a man's world as it was built by men the competition in the world also makes a man's success

02:13:18.240 very difficult so that man buying you that nobu is also a champion amongst men yeah that's why he is so

02:13:24.960 successful men pay their dues do you on the right yeah but who gave birth to you and why can't you

02:13:32.240 say women don't pay their dues and women can't work as i'm so confused as to why we can't also

02:13:38.000 be working hard for a career donated 101 when cs grad stats are 85 men 15 women and the workforce

02:13:49.200 reflects this as 60 40 you are statistically hiring less qualified women basic math ask jackie she was

02:13:56.960 wrecked to take stats if all women did stem maybe would be problem reality is they don't

02:14:05.520 men and women pursue different things and have different interests bro is he saying is he saying

02:14:10.000 that 85 percent of grads are men and 15 are women but having aggression as a man is not conducive to

02:14:16.560 roles like being a grade school teacher nurse caretaker etc this is also why employers are more inclined to

02:14:23.920 hire women for these roles over men men are often discriminated against for these is it discrimination for a

02:14:31.280 woman to prefer a female ob-gyn or like a female to do her brazilian wax well what a guy would a guy

02:14:40.640 want a girl to do his oh i think oh i think it's valid his check would you rather have a guy or a

02:14:46.320 girl do that check my junk check your i'm like i'm um are you talking about like a prostate prostate

02:14:53.120 yeah would you want a guy or a girl to check your prostate be honest i just prefer not to get my

02:14:57.520 honest but just be honest what do you i mean isn't it isn't it don't they just put i don't

02:15:05.520 care personally i'm just gonna get it done i don't care honestly i don't think i would care

02:15:10.160 i wouldn't care i mean if she was super hot i'd be like all right we have leo here boomers had

02:15:18.000 second wave feminism don't need a man gen x had it in their whole lives millennials got third wave

02:15:24.080 men are evil slash source of my problems at a young age how on earth could you think society

02:15:29.040 favors men only men 70 to 80 plus lived during a patriarchy word yeah i would i would on that note

02:15:36.560 i would actually argue that we live in an often female dominated world like almost all of my teachers

02:15:41.280 growing up were women and man did they make sure all the boys stayed in line then throughout high

02:15:46.080 school almost all of my teachers were female and then in college i would say probably 70 of my

02:15:51.040 teachers were female like it's not exactly what i would call a patriarchy it is interesting well

02:15:55.840 that's your specific experience because i don't know what the again statistically that is because

02:16:00.720 i had an opposite experience most of your teachers growing up were men from junior high on mine were men

02:16:06.320 interesting i mean i had i had almost all male teachers in junior high and it was freaking awesome

02:16:10.560 and that doesn't mean just because your teachers are a certain gender mean the whole world is

02:16:14.800 female dominated because of that one workforce are paid like yeah i was just thinking that they

02:16:20.000 paid horribly and there's always teacher strikes and i know none of none of those women want to go

02:16:24.560 do the tough blue collar jobs there's just sexism you know they're so disadvantaged all right we have

02:16:30.320 winpc99 girl on the far right if you believe in equality what is more equal than splitting the bill on a date

02:16:37.120 is that to me yeah oh my god this honestly this question is boring but um again like i said women

02:16:44.880 don't don't it's not the money that i bring to a relationship that's valuable and if he asked a

02:16:49.200 woman on a date but but weren't and i don't know if it was more so you youtube channel so it's not

02:16:54.480 that much better than i'm giving you a hard time okay um i would say youtube though just to i mean just

02:17:01.600 no youtube is more profitable for sure it's not even about profitable i think it's more uh

02:17:06.080 uh there's a greater degree of uh effort that typically goes into a youtube video oh for sure

02:17:12.960 for sure uh in any case i was thinking about that earlier i was thinking to myself about the fact

02:17:18.160 that you have worked so hard to set up this entire facility and like build this channel and do

02:17:23.360 everything and there's so few women in comparison that are building really successful youtube channels

02:17:27.280 like this why is that is it because of sexism or women just don't what are the stats on that i feel

02:17:32.240 like there are a lot of youtube channels that are right yeah there are a lot of youtube channels

02:17:35.760 that are run and podcast run by women but when i'm thinking about like successful podcasts and

02:17:40.960 youtube channels there's a lot by by large the majority of the ones that i see going viral across

02:17:45.760 the internet are typically run by men maybe that's maybe that's maybe that's just my algorithm though

02:17:53.120 i feel like it's pretty even for my i see tons of successful women on youtube because that's my

02:17:58.080 algorithm do i think it's harder for women to be successful as a youtuber

02:18:02.080 than a man okay unrelated to dating i'm just sorry i don't cut that off okay jackie mentioned

02:18:06.720 females in tech internship at her company does this mean i can have a males in tech internship and that

02:18:12.800 is all fine and dandy or is that somehow sexism and the reverse is not um well i don't think you can

02:18:21.760 have males in tech internship just just because our company is like i don't know if you go to the

02:18:26.640 elevator there's like eight guys and two girls but i personally i think that's also unfair so

02:18:32.720 okay you think it'd be unfair wait you think it's unfair that there's eight guys and two girls no i

02:18:36.880 think it's unfair that there is only females and i think it should just be like both genders

02:18:45.120 okay i think a lot of women just don't want the job well i think they're trying to push more women

02:18:50.800 into it though because like you're saying like we want if we want equality that means we do want

02:18:55.520 women to be more in jobs like you're saying that are higher paying and so things like females in tech

02:19:01.760 or whatever it was called is their way i think of trying to get more women into the field so that can

02:19:08.960 happen yeah it's basic affirmative action um go ahead are you finished yeah go ahead go ahead i'm like

02:19:16.160 this is like a genuine like curious i'm like just genuinely like wondering this and like wondering

02:19:23.040 what everybody's viewpoint of this is um because obviously like i see i i understand what you guys

02:19:29.040 are saying and like we have different perspectives and i think we need your perspective like and you

02:19:35.040 need our perspective honestly like we need each other to like really get to the truth because you i might

02:19:40.880 have an extreme view to you and you have an extreme view to me but we need each other because the truth

02:19:46.080 is probably somewhere in the middle in my opinion that's i mean that's a uh fallacious argument but

02:19:51.760 in my opinion um and so i guess i'm just wondering because i do see like the lawyer and the doctor

02:19:58.240 agreement and like the whole like jobs are more aggressive that's why i don't want them because i

02:20:02.800 don't want to be in my masculine i want to be in my feminine and i do i am drawn to more positions

02:20:07.840 that tap into my feminine but i guess i kind of wonder if the structure of law from the beginning

02:20:17.360 had more feminine energy it was more balanced it wasn't so aggressive would there be more space for

02:20:23.680 women and is that what women are fighting for not to be in a man's world but to make the nature of the

02:20:31.040 job more feminine somehow i don't know of the job more feminine yeah because the way that it is right

02:20:37.440 now for a job to be more feminine so for instance let's just take business as like sure just general

02:20:44.800 business what is the primary goal of business to make money okay so for instance like for me

02:20:55.280 when i was like oh to have a business i have to network oh i have to do marketing i have to do

02:21:02.000 sales like all that stuff i'm like it sounds like i have to be all aggressive and i don't

02:21:07.120 really want to be in that vibe but when i re when i um realign my thinking of what um marketing is i'm

02:21:14.400 like oh marketing for me can be me being deeply myself and sharing who i am and then when i think about

02:21:21.600 sales sales is just solving people's problems right and so for me i don't like thinking about

02:21:26.160 it sales but if i think about it as empathy if i think about it as oh you have a problem that i

02:21:30.320 know how to solve and like i'm empathetic towards you that's feminine that's a feminine energy

02:21:34.640 when i think about it like that i'm more drawn to sales i'm more drawn to networking if networking

02:21:39.280 is building a community of people who support me if i think about it in a more feminine way

02:21:44.000 i'm more drawn to business like that i'm not i'm just saying is there space for feminine energy

02:21:49.440 in a masculine world when in the masculine workforce no and why why is that the case

02:21:57.520 a resounding i mean that's your opinion so i mean look i'm not trying to be disrespectful or

02:22:05.360 anything for sure this is a discussion it goes back to what i said like 30 minutes ago

02:22:11.680 the feminist perspective seeks to restructure reality itself restructure what is at this moment

02:22:20.080 what has been and will always be how do we know what will always be i mean just you can

02:22:27.600 look at the pattern of the last five thousand six thousand years we've changed though no uh yeah we

02:22:33.440 have and a lot of those changes have been bad here's the thing let me allow me to answer your question

02:22:38.000 okay yeah law can we restructure the structure of law in order to make it more feminine

02:22:44.880 what are two lawyers doing in a court of law two lawyers fighting against one another what are they

02:22:52.000 doing um trying to prove their client innocent well let's only linger on this because i feel like

02:22:57.840 we've already dedicated nearly an hour and a half on this let's try to i'm gonna wrap it up quick

02:23:03.120 business law medicine all of the sales for example these are industries where you have to

02:23:14.080 win you have to win it's not about like like teaching for example i had female teachers that

02:23:20.160 were very good with empathizing with the students that's an important just built into the structure

02:23:24.560 of the job that feminine energy is important law you are working to win for your client business you

02:23:32.400 are working to win sales yes empathy is important but salesmen the most successful salesmen are the

02:23:37.600 most aggressive at the job they're working hard at it like they're i know a lot of salesmen they work

02:23:43.440 freaking hard at their jobs that's not one where you're just like feeling and like you know just in

02:23:48.000 your feminine energy it's like you have to work hard and follow up and like constantly follow up

02:23:53.600 in order to hit your goals and your quotas and so on and so forth these are it's it's masculine energy

02:23:57.680 and the world is a competitive place and in order to succeed in a competitive world you have to bring

02:24:03.360 the masculine energy to the table it will always be like that so why do you think that um like feminine

02:24:10.400 jobs aren't highly paid is it just because it's not like as needed of a skill like i'm just

02:24:14.960 there's supermodels that make like millions of dollars there's singers dancers that make millions

02:24:18.960 of dollars like it's you're talking about very masculine jobs that are male dominated because

02:24:24.720 you have to bring masculine energy well it's also it's also a question of scale too like a software

02:24:30.720 engineer for example you can create a product that has scale that can reach thousands hundreds of

02:24:37.440 thousands millions of people so there's more opportunity to make money whereas if you're like

02:24:41.840 a nurse or a caregiver there's only so many patients for example that you can see in a day

02:24:47.040 so you can't really scale that and also human beings you know you were talking about hormones

02:24:51.760 before you know as a woman like you have especially at different parts of your cycle you have feminine

02:24:56.240 energy that you feel you know human beings are wired temperamentally on a biological level to be

02:25:03.040 drawn towards certain things one of the reasons why stem is a male dominated field is because a lot

02:25:08.720 of women just aren't interested in it we're never going to change that it's it's just it's the nature

02:25:14.000 of reality you can't change the nature of reality does that make sense yeah that makes sense we we have

02:25:19.680 two more videos from you but we'll maybe get into them a little bit later on in the show because i i

02:25:23.760 want to uh try to bring in a few of the other people here at the table we have jacqueline here jacqueline

02:25:30.160 in your bio it says you are the real sleeping beauty what huh what does that mean i just love

02:25:39.360 sleeping you like sleeping yeah i see okay it's in your instagram bio so i was just curious yeah you

02:25:46.080 say uh so you're a 33 year old teacher from san diego you just broke up with your boyfriend who was

02:25:50.640 eight years younger than you yeah uh and look and you're looking to just talk about my crazy past with

02:25:58.160 dating as i always pick the worst guys yeah um and so you were in a relationship if i recall you said

02:26:05.440 four was this the four-year one that ended two weeks ago yeah uh so you were you 30 and he was 21

02:26:13.840 when you guys met 22 he was 22 and you were 30 yeah okay gotcha um and how did you meet him online

02:26:23.520 dating app um yeah craigslist exactly no it was um a live stream app a live stream oh megaly what is

02:26:33.680 that no it's called meet me huh meet me meet me yeah and you can live stream and get oh so were you

02:26:40.720 live streaming and he messaged you or you messaged yeah what were you live streaming just my day oh okay

02:26:46.320 yeah cool all right what was his message to you i can't remember i i think he was like your baby

02:26:52.240 he asked for my snapchat and i said i don't have a snapchat i said if you want to get a hold of me

02:26:56.880 my instagram and was he in san diego instagram yeah okay yeah he's in selfie these women man they

02:27:04.000 talk to guys that immediately asked for the snap right off the bat and then they're like why doesn't

02:27:07.760 it work out yeah four years later why didn't work out uh you said okay so on on again off again

02:27:15.920 relationship you said he was cheating and ghosted you multiple times yeah ghosted you

02:27:21.440 yeah yeah so when so the times when he would break up with me he would do it in like such a

02:27:30.000 like savage disgusting way like he would just like stop talking to me like cut all communication like

02:27:36.400 nothing like he wouldn't tell me anything like he would break up with you and then just stop talking

02:27:41.200 to you or he would just yeah or he would get mad and just like cut communication isn't that like the

02:27:46.240 best route like when you break up somebody that you should not talk to them i want to know answers

02:27:50.800 like what's no you don't deserve you don't deserve closure yeah you don't deserve closure exactly no

02:27:56.240 no and like whether you're a man or woman if you want out of a relationship

02:28:02.480 you can you don't need to provide justification for in my view i mean i think you should have a

02:28:08.000 proper breakup yeah yeah just send it down yeah but also have you ever been ghosted do you know how that

02:28:14.000 feels and you're okay with just ghosting somebody it sucks but then what are you gonna do yeah i

02:28:19.440 totally disagree if you've been married for 10 years just text totally disagree i want i'm divorcing

02:28:25.680 you babe just send me a text i'm i'm i'm being a bit facetious but um no but i mean like would he

02:28:32.800 break up with you in person or how would never like okay never it would he would just get mad about

02:28:37.920 something and then just like stop like cut all communications off like probably go bang a couple

02:28:42.560 chicks and then just kidding just kidding no for sure that's that's i'm almost positive that's what

02:28:47.200 happened right i don't know for sure i'm positive right and so then he would whatever miss me this

02:28:51.840 that and then come back and then like wait so okay he's a younger guy right have you always dated younger

02:28:58.320 guys or since i've gotten older yeah i don't know so at some point it switched or like i was the older

02:29:05.040 one and they were younger when was that when did that because i got older i don't know like when i

02:29:10.480 was younger it was like older guys and now what is that the biggest age gap the eight year one or have

02:29:14.960 you had bigger no i would say that's yeah absolutely that's the biggest okay yeah yeah um and i don't

02:29:20.640 think there's anything wrong with with that with with age gaps in adult relationships yeah um it although

02:29:26.720 it does seem to me typically women are far more likely to date older men so that's a bit unique

02:29:30.960 um so okay you met him on a live streaming thing yeah were you fine were you guys living together

02:29:37.840 no okay no were you financially supporting him given that you were perhaps a bit more established

02:29:43.520 in your career you were older than him or you know 50 50. nah not at all like it was definitely

02:29:50.000 you know i i noticed like at the very beginning of us talking that he would do some like things like

02:29:54.720 he'd be like oh you're gonna buy me dinner right and i was just like i let it slide a couple times and

02:29:58.960 then finally i was like this is not some kind of like sugar mama type shit like this is not gonna

02:30:05.120 go on like you know and then after i like was assertive like he stopped doing it like he didn't

02:30:09.760 do it anymore so then when we got more comfortable with each other then it was much more like you buy

02:30:13.440 something it got became normal because we both had bought things for each other so many times

02:30:16.880 if you were dating a 30 year old guy would you expect him to like if you went on a date would you

02:30:21.520 expect him to pay for stuff if he asked me on a date yes okay we should okay well i don't want to

02:30:30.720 look we'll come back to the whole who pays thing but um okay so he was would you consider him a leech

02:30:37.840 kind of no not a leech not a leech okay selfish oh selfish selfish but he didn't yeah okay you also

02:30:46.400 wrote here you dated a romeo pimp one time without realizing yo what is a romeo pimp okay so a romeo

02:30:54.160 pimp is a type of pimp that when they type of pimp yeah i know this is all new to me too so when i

02:30:59.840 learned but it's like a type of guy who he like love bombs girls so that they fall in love with him

02:31:06.480 and then from that point he manipulates them to go out and have sex and make money i did not do that

02:31:13.360 oh make that very clear okay i did not do that did he probably yeah he did i i didn't know that

02:31:18.880 he was a pimp at all and it's a really long story of how i even like did he wear a fuzzy hat no that's

02:31:24.320 so funny i was like that's how i envisioned pimps but like i'm from san diego and like san diego is

02:31:28.640 just was it a white guy he was middle eastern oh yeah so he's a legit pimp he went to jail for four

02:31:38.240 years when he was 18 for pimping and pandering and so he while he was dating you did he were

02:31:45.280 you aware of like other like he had a roster of women he was pimping out no so i met him after he

02:31:51.760 had gotten out of jail and i met him through a mutual friend who was living with me did you know

02:31:56.160 he had been in jail i didn't know he had been in jail how recently i didn't know what for how

02:32:00.960 recently after he got out of jail did you start dating him i'm not 100 sure i want to say it was

02:32:07.440 like maybe six months it wasn't very long you said you didn't know it never occurred to you to ask why

02:32:13.040 he was in jail i figured it was drugs i you know what i almost want to say because this was a while

02:32:16.720 ago i almost want to say like they said it was drugs like they didn't say it was pimping and pandering

02:32:21.600 like his friends did not tell me nor did he tell me it was pimping and pandering like they had said

02:32:25.920 something different i don't know a hundred percent sure what it was if it was i can't remember to be

02:32:30.960 honest but it was not what how that how long were you dating him oh my god like like it's so disgusting

02:32:36.640 like maybe like a month yeah it was so bad like question so at what point in that month that you

02:32:43.840 were dating him did you find out that he was was you're saying he used to be a pimp or even when he

02:32:50.000 was dating you i don't know i don't well he tried to turn you as turn you out yeah he would like

02:32:55.760 manipulate and like make suggestions like oh if you got a boob job you know you could make a lot

02:32:59.920 of money stripping like that and so like i saw these things and i was just like like what the

02:33:04.960 fuck you know and then finally i had another friend that's a huge dude i think it's hilarious he went

02:33:09.680 to jail for pimping and gets out immediately starts trying yeah yeah and like it was just like a really

02:33:16.800 creepy relationship like he wanted me to like stay like i could not talk to any guys like my head would

02:33:21.040 have to be down like he wanted me to stay in the room when he left and like all the stuff and i just was

02:33:24.720 not about it like i was like was he trying to isolate you from like people in your life hell

02:33:28.400 yeah yeah that's yikes yeah why did you decide to date someone who went to jail in the first place

02:33:34.960 um it's a great question yeah that is a really good question i don't know that stuff doesn't

02:33:39.520 necessarily bother me i guess like uh doesn't strike you as like a red flag it should it should

02:33:45.920 have right um looking like hindsight but um yeah you know if somebody has like a criminal record but

02:33:51.680 they're like doing something better for themselves like i said i choose horrible guys like horrible

02:33:56.640 we'll get into that we'll get into that i have some notes here um wait so remind me what point in the

02:34:02.800 one month relationship did you find out that he was a pimp like very close to when it ended i said i want

02:34:08.640 to say like it was like a week before like shit shit like hit the fan like my friend ended up like

02:34:13.920 dragging him out of my bed like beating his ass like it was a whole thing your male friend or female

02:34:17.760 friend male friend like what did he do i don't know they had like a fight or something and then

02:34:21.920 he like that was my friend who was living with me at the time so they had a fight and so we were

02:34:26.160 literally asleep in my room and he came into my room ripped him out of bed beat his ass and threw

02:34:32.000 all his stuff out and like pretty much gave me the rundown of like everything that was going on what

02:34:36.240 he was doing and after that i was like thank you and what was he doing f you just talking to a bunch

02:34:40.560 of girls trying to pimp again you know trying to like you know live that life was your friend trying to

02:34:45.360 save you from him basically i think he had gotten into a fight with him about something like non-related

02:34:50.240 and it just fit the narrative for him i don't think he like went out of his way to like be like a hero

02:34:54.720 or anything i'm not gonna give him that credit but it worked in my advantage okay yeah yeah huh why do

02:35:02.480 you why do you pick such bad guys i don't know what's your relationship like with your dad oh it's

02:35:08.320 really good now um it was a little bit rough growing up but i have a really positive good relationship

02:35:12.960 with my dad i have for the past 10 years so but growing up it was a little rocky yeah but now

02:35:18.880 good so okay i dated this guy he was in jail um you said you'd like to talk about how hard it is to

02:35:25.440 date in this day and age uh how um i think um one of you guys had mentioned it it's just like with

02:35:33.280 social media it's like everything is it's just it's so hard because you just have constant temptation

02:35:39.440 like you have constant like you can hit up a girl on their dms and you can do this and it's just

02:35:44.160 constant temptation all the time oh so are you saying that it's a it's a man thing no like the

02:35:49.840 men have to the men have to hold on the men have temptation and the women are totally innocent not

02:35:55.520 at all social media not at all dynamic okay not at all i mean there's lots of temptation for women

02:36:00.160 too i mean there's lots of guys that will dm you i mean i probably weigh so more than men depending

02:36:04.800 on what guy you know what kind of guy you are sure but i just think there's so easy now like it's so

02:36:10.240 easy to like not value the person you're in because you think you deserve someone better or

02:36:14.400 you're looking at this girl and why doesn't just like comparison it's just so like mental

02:36:18.400 fuck you know and so it just makes things a lot more difficult i think but you don't have to do

02:36:24.320 social media that's true or you could also like how would i meet people then if i didn't do social

02:36:30.080 media i love your go out and hang out with people i know it's so wholesome yeah yeah i don't know

02:36:37.680 wait so are you saying social media is a bad thing or a good thing

02:36:41.840 i think both i think both i think there's a lot of good things that come from social social media

02:36:46.000 like you know creativity um like stuff like this like i i watch youtube all the time like every day

02:36:51.200 you know just like dating wise dating wise definitely i think it's bad i think it's toxic and bad

02:36:55.600 that's how you meet people yeah it's the only way i meet people because she wants to stay home yeah

02:37:01.520 i'm a homebody though i'm a homebody i don't really go out i don't really i don't drink i don't go out

02:37:06.320 like i'm a complete homebody like i want to like i want to stay in all the time did you used to be

02:37:11.440 that way like did you used to like in your younger years crazy when i was super young like 17 16 18 but

02:37:18.800 like i've been a homebody for a long time which is why i don't really meet people like the normal way

02:37:22.880 it's like i have to meet people like a homebody i'm a homebody there you go yeah all right you said

02:37:27.760 that uh it makes you feel pretty hopeless and actually finding someone that you'll marry and

02:37:32.560 have kids with yeah so late in the game when you say so late in the game do you mean because you're

02:37:37.200 33 is that what you're talking about and um and you mentioned that the relationship that you were in

02:37:42.560 it was a four-year on again off again relationship it ended two weeks ago and this person was

02:37:48.400 uh eight years your junior is that correct yeah do you think that being in an on again off again

02:37:54.560 situationship you consider it a situationship correct it was definitely a relationship oh

02:38:00.640 relationship yeah um with someone eight years your junior who i mean clearly you aren't going to get

02:38:07.120 stability and commitment from right especially for the past four years when this is a pretty critical

02:38:12.240 time period for finding husband um do you think that maybe i mean you're he was 21 when you were

02:38:22.480 30 22 yeah or 22 yeah i mean do you think most 22 year old men are like ready to get married and

02:38:30.720 yeah i mean i wasn't married or ready to have kids at that moment in my life either yeah i don't

02:38:37.120 probably i think on average that's around like 29 i think or is it 27 the average age of

02:38:43.280 marriage for women i think or maybe it was just like with him particular i just didn't see that or

02:38:48.080 i wasn't like but you spent some pretty critical years there dating yeah a man eight years or junior

02:38:53.440 not that i have anything against age gaps but i suspect most 22 year old men are not really

02:38:58.400 looking to get married and have kids and whatnot yeah by the way the tts is our can you pull that last

02:39:04.560 tts back up i want to just maybe get through some of this stuff but i'll relevant dude here i'll sure

02:39:10.160 let me let me take a look uh let's see one sec guys one sec okay here we go why don't we pull it up

02:39:21.920 greg neck donated 99 dollars oh this shows that woman choose the absolute biggest deadbeats and

02:39:28.560 afterwards say all men are the same and most single mothers chose these people and wonder why they don't

02:39:34.240 pay child support also chase thanks for being a reason for my way back to christ stoked to hear

02:39:41.200 that bro greg neck thank you man appreciate it uh it's i would say that that super chat touches on

02:39:47.280 the point you're making pretty well you're saying you want one thing which is you want to find a

02:39:53.520 husband and you know someone to have kids with correct yeah you want to find a good man you've

02:39:57.280 expressed you know a fear of like ending up with a deadbeat that's just going to leave you hanging

02:40:00.960 right yeah definitely why are you messing around with these 21 year old dudes and these dudes that

02:40:05.200 are just out of jail yeah okay so let's the guy who's just out of jail we're just not gonna count

02:40:10.560 him well we can no we count him yes we're gonna count that was a very quick mistake but um with him i

02:40:17.280 don't know because like people will ask me they'll be like do you think that the age gap had anything to

02:40:21.360 do with you guys like breaking up and like it didn't it wasn't the age gap it was just literally

02:40:26.000 like asking about why you guys would break up if you want to find a solid dude why are you dudeing

02:40:30.640 why are you dating these non-solid dudes i i pick the worst guys why don't you start picking good

02:40:36.000 guys if you want to get married you can't keep playing this game forever if you want to be a

02:40:39.680 wife and a mother do you want kids yeah yeah so all right some chad comes along he's like 22 he's

02:40:46.560 like what's up girl and he's trying to smash are you gonna date him are you gonna be like no i'm

02:40:49.920 looking for a husband yeah no i'm not gonna date i'm not gonna make that mistake again because like

02:40:54.160 you said i think it's like a critical time period if i did want to have children and like i do want

02:40:59.520 children but like i made that face because like my sister has two children right now she's three

02:41:03.120 years older than me and every time like it's like oh they're a lot of work but it's like i hope one

02:41:08.000 day that i do um but yeah i do definitely need to think it's worth like reevaluating your dating

02:41:13.920 strategy to like optimize for the kind of guy you're looking for for sure like whoever i allow like

02:41:18.880 into my space because it's not like it's like like i have like options it's like i'm just choosing

02:41:23.040 the wrong guy because i think that's what i'm attracted to which is an issue because i think

02:41:28.160 you're attracted to the wrong kind of guy i'm definitely attracted to like the wrong kind of

02:41:31.760 stuff for sure what what is that just like bad boys um i know it's so i know it's so typical

02:41:39.600 we should go around the table on this oh who here likes and is attracted to bad boys

02:41:43.920 one oh come on come on come on bad boys it's yeah i've never been attracted to bad boys oh okay

02:41:51.920 that's good all right no bad boys come on there's been one or two glass one or two there's been on

02:41:56.800 and off relationship i mean one or two bad boys um but i wouldn't like from a first glance like i feel

02:42:02.160 like they're not that though like they're not like the typical stereotype you know what i mean like i feel

02:42:07.520 like not fresh out of jail it's not attractive and that's why it ends because i don't like it okay

02:42:12.400 bad boys yeah this is weird but i tend to like guys that were and are now like like a reformed

02:42:20.800 a reformed bad guy bad boy yeah yeah you know they were bad they've been through a lot of

02:42:26.000 shit and came out on the other side different person i don't know i like that no i i'm not

02:42:34.400 surprised by it at all that psychology completely makes sense you like the bad boys i just want to fix

02:42:39.360 them and then once and then once i figure out that i can't i'm like peace out sorry it's not working

02:42:44.720 out okay bad boys no no no i like guys that treat me well so wholesome

02:42:54.480 no i think it's immature okay you got to fix this bad boy habit yes i do it's not well

02:43:01.760 i'm like what we should watch that um if you don't if you don't fix this you're gonna like

02:43:07.680 screw up your window of opportunity yeah can i give you can i give you just one one piece of

02:43:13.440 advice please do i'm listening i don't know the one you said if he asks for your snapchat

02:43:21.360 stop it there and then i just give them my number no if he no no don't go out with that guy if he

02:43:27.920 asks for your snapchat at all i agree with that fully look look let me let me break it down for

02:43:34.320 you okay dudes that ask for snapchats to use a a common term nowadays dudes that ask for snapchats

02:43:41.280 are fuck boys okay i'm blowing a lot of dudes games out there right now extremely immature ones

02:43:46.480 like you'd be a little more clever at least yeah i mean smart fuck boy if you're gonna be a fuck

02:43:51.520 it's like this if a guy's asking for your snapchat he wants no record or trace of your guys messages he

02:43:56.640 also probably wants nudes and he's not he's making it clear right off the bat he has no

02:44:01.760 serious intentions for the relationship girl asks for his snap she's a she's like 15 to the

02:44:08.000 fucking streets she does if a girl asks for my snapchat i'm like yo how many freaking dudes are you

02:44:16.240 hooking up with to be honest what's she trying to hide yeah why exactly why can't the message be

02:44:22.080 permanent son yeah yeah would you apply the same um ideas to in uh instagram or like any social media

02:44:29.200 no instagram is different so the thing about instagram i mean if you're trying to find like

02:44:33.920 a partner through instagram there's stuff you can do you know first off you're going to attract what

02:44:39.760 you are so if you're posting booty pics all over the place and like thirst traps and stuff like that

02:44:44.880 you're going to get guys that just want to smash those are the dudes that are that are going to be

02:44:47.920 sliding in two dms right if a woman's posting like tasteful conservative modest images of herself

02:44:53.760 where she's showcasing her beauty but not like her body she's going to attract a different caliber of

02:44:58.960 guy and it also comes down to what is the dm that he sends you yeah you know like read read the energy

02:45:05.280 is he just trying to smash or is he like genuinely curious in who you are as a person yeah because if

02:45:10.960 guys are if guys are trying to smash right off the bat like it's probably not a dude that's serious

02:45:16.160 about a long-term relationship with you yeah not necessarily you can smash pretty early on and

02:45:20.800 still want a long-term relationship i think a lot i'm i think ruining brian's game right now but like

02:45:27.360 like a long-term relationships i've had some long fantastic long-term relationships out of five

02:45:32.320 year or two year nine months you can hook up on the first second or third date just saying just

02:45:37.440 saying yes and marriages will still come from that but what what i was the point that i'm making is

02:45:42.080 you're a woman who's looking for marriage right you're a woman who's looking for marriage if you're

02:45:48.400 if you have guys sliding into your instagram dms and they're trying to smash right off the bat the

02:45:52.800 percentage of them that are actually trying to have a marriage with you are probably going to be

02:45:57.280 quite low because a lot of bad boys nowadays know they can slide into a girl's dms and smash how do you

02:46:02.800 know the difference between who is a bad boy and who is just faking it you want to know the real

02:46:07.600 answer yes i do if you refuse to have sex with him right off the bat then you'll know real quick

02:46:12.240 whether or not he's a bad boy how long i don't know that's a whole well i mean if you're trying

02:46:17.040 to optimize for marriage just don't have sex with him until your wedding night no no no no

02:46:22.720 then good luck yeah good luck yeah you know but i mean seriously if you hold out for like a month or

02:46:29.360 a couple of months like if you don't want to wait for marriage and you hold out for you know three

02:46:34.160 four five six seven eight dates whatever you tell them hey i don't want to have sex right off the bat

02:46:38.640 like the guys that are actually serious about you for you are going to be willing to wait i have a

02:46:43.680 fear that if you make a man wait he will cheat on you i mean then well then you don't want them

02:46:50.720 yeah yeah but i have one of the issues i have with this whole like waiting thing that ought to have

02:46:56.960 look it's it's a difficult position i think it ought to have been your standard the entire time though

02:47:02.640 you spent your 20s fucking around racking up maybe you didn't but if you spent your 20s

02:47:09.200 just jumping from dick to dick to dick and then you hit your 30s okay now i've got to find a husband

02:47:15.280 and now you're gonna make this guy who's deserving of marriage you're gonna make this guy wait it just

02:47:22.640 like at least from my point of view i feel like that guy's a sucker so i but it's a damned i do empathize

02:47:28.960 with women on this because on one hand it's like well i'm not going to advocate for you to just

02:47:32.400 continue perpetually throughout life just running like letting men run through you but also it's

02:47:38.240 like as a guy like i don't know chase how you'd feel about this let's say a woman that you encounter

02:47:43.280 and perhaps you wouldn't even date a woman like this to begin with but you found out that she had

02:47:48.480 30 previous sexual partners and i know that's too high for you and that's pretty high body count i i

02:47:53.440 reckon uh she all those guys she slept with them the first night but then for you we're waiting till

02:48:00.080 marriage to have sex on one hand it's good that you're ceasing your promiscuity but also it's like

02:48:07.360 i don't know it just like yeah it doesn't sit right with me it's gonna be a tough pill to swallow

02:48:12.160 for a guy for sure i mean it's like hey you let all these other guys hit right off the bat but you're

02:48:16.400 gonna make me wait because you want to try and lock me down like that's that's gone wait there's a

02:48:20.560 meme about this nick can you find the flower cuck meme there's a meme about this no it's you're

02:48:27.040 gonna have to google it um so it is also like the thing it is also kind of a female mating strategy

02:48:35.040 like a lot of women hit their 30s and they slept with a bunch of dudes they slept with a bunch of

02:48:39.200 dudes in their 20s but then they're like hey like i want to settle down now and yeah like that's going

02:48:42.960 to be a tough pill for a lot of guys to swallow but like again it's like

02:48:49.360 you've got the way i see it you've got two options you can either keep screwing around

02:48:54.800 with guys that aren't serious about you and then find yourself in your mid to late 30s

02:48:59.360 with fewer options which a lot of women do and then they end up unhappy and on antidepressants

02:49:05.280 drinking wine with their cats for the rest of their lives you don't you don't want that outcome

02:49:09.520 don't talk about my aunt like that show it to me on on this monitor it's like that's that's one

02:49:14.880 you don't you don't need to that's a risk minimize just or actually maybe you do i don't know the

02:49:18.800 other path is no it's not that it's be wiser it's that one but how you're going about this you know

02:49:23.840 like the idea look the ideal outcome here especially for marriage in general you want to find a guy who

02:49:31.360 doesn't want you just for your body and doesn't want you just for sex but who loves you for you

02:49:35.520 you know and the thing about the edge when you introduce sex into an equation it complicates

02:49:40.320 everything right like the way i approach it it's like okay if a woman tells me hey i want to wait

02:49:44.880 until marriage i'm like if i really love her like i'm not saying i'm going to want to sleep with her

02:49:50.000 beforehand but if i really love her i'm going to be like yo like that i share that value like i want

02:49:53.920 to do that you know and it's not going to be a problem for me like i really love her it's like yes

02:49:57.680 let's do that you know but if a guy doesn't really love you for you he's not going to be content with

02:50:02.320 that you know and i'm not saying that you have to save yourself for marriage i would advocate you

02:50:06.000 i would advocate that i know brian disagrees but like removing sex from the equation the point that

02:50:11.680 i'm making is it's going to filter all of the guys that just want to use you you have to filter all of

02:50:17.200 the guys that just want to use you yeah is my point and you haven't been filtering them and for your

02:50:22.400 goals getting married having a family you need to start filtering out all the bad boys that just want

02:50:27.200 to use you yeah she's not attracted to those guys though i can't be no i am i'm not i'm not not

02:50:33.280 attracted maybe you need to find what she's talking about the reformed bad boy exactly are there is

02:50:38.960 that a thing is it a thing is there reformed bad boys it should be there has to be i've seen them

02:50:46.000 yeah bad boys used to be bad boys and other good boys yeah there's this term called

02:50:49.040 hebristophilia it's basically uh let me let me just look it up really quick hold on

02:50:56.240 yeah i mean i i know reformed bad boys like i know dudes with like 100 plus body counts that

02:51:00.720 became christians and then they're like yo like i'm saving it for marriage now so hebristophilia is

02:51:05.440 the phenomenon of an individual being sexually aroused by a criminal offender and this is much

02:51:11.120 more documented in women than in men uh real i think uh there is a non-negligible cohort of women

02:51:19.600 who i would say perhaps not to the extreme of say being attracted to and pursuing a man who's like

02:51:25.200 a serial killer or even a criminal uh but they've done studies on this and a much larger non-negligible

02:51:32.240 portion of women cohort of women find dark triad personality traits attractive narcissist narcissism

02:51:39.200 machiavellianism and psycho psychopathy um you ever seen the stats on the most common types of uh

02:51:47.760 pornography that women look up uh no oh man it's crazy i think the five most common themes that women

02:51:56.240 look up in in pornography are uh werewolves what yeah werewolves pirates surgeons billionaires

02:52:04.960 i can't remember what the last is this for i don't know if it's for for prawn or if it's for

02:52:10.480 like romance novels that's for pornography werewolf porn huh yeah those are the most those are the most

02:52:17.600 those are the most common google searches also like ladies jordan peterson's talked about it like

02:52:24.320 women just sending like a bunch of like serial killers letters yeah that comes into play

02:52:29.440 that's crazy uh emily we have actually let me just trigger these uh yeah nah nah nah here let me

02:52:38.480 trigger these really quick and then i'll i have a couple more yo adam thank you man appreciate it

02:52:43.440 to donated 99 all i'm hearing is you ladies aren't willing to do the difficult jobs that pay a decent

02:52:50.720 wage that isn't discrimination that isn't sexism that's lack of effort lack of will to provide

02:52:58.480 i don't break my back because i love doing it it's done for my gal oh there's a good video it's a great

02:53:04.720 comment there's uh two videos right there's the kid video and then the uh working we'll react to those

02:53:12.000 clips later um and then we have doc van adlis here microchimerism is real it has been well studied in

02:53:17.360 women with autoimmune disorders dna from free fetus crosses the placenta also can acquire dna via

02:53:23.840 blood transfusions however dna from sperm donors that's news i'm trying to find that data from

02:53:29.840 doc van adlis thank you very much man appreciate it we have emily here let's see so you were on the

02:53:36.080 show you've been on the show twice um have you gotten any dms from guys like sliding into the dms yeah

02:53:43.440 a lot how many um well they filter out of my requests up if i don't respond to them but i'd

02:53:49.920 say like probably more than like 30 or maybe 20 to 30 okay that's not that's not too much crazy but have

02:53:56.480 you responded to anyone i responded to one because it was really nice and the way he wrote it i was just

02:54:01.440 like oh like i gotta respond to that he was really respectful what'd he say um he was just saying gave

02:54:07.920 me a lot of compliments said i was respectable and um brought up a few of the points i said last time

02:54:14.000 just said that i was bringing like common sense and do a lot of things sure you wrote in one of

02:54:18.880 your pre-show notes modern dating scares you because of how many people just want to have meaning

02:54:23.200 meaningless casual sex and not actually connect have you ever had casual sex

02:54:30.480 in high school yeah oh okay all right uh you said i wish dating was how it used to be seen in old

02:54:38.720 movies with traditional gentlemen who will court a lady and take her out on lots of dates and hold

02:54:44.160 the door etc uh ladies here at the table do you agree with that do you wish that dating was how it used

02:54:49.680 to be traditional old movies think of the no hours holding the door wait doesn't i haven't seen the

02:54:56.560 movie but doesn't this motherfucker like build this chick a house that's some simp that is simp as

02:55:03.120 fuck that's awesome don't build a fucking house for some chick what doesn't he die does he die for

02:55:07.840 her or something no no no he takes care of her until old age he built dementia this guy built her a

02:55:14.160 fucking house even the blue shutters yeah everything bro that's so i haven't seen the movie so i don't

02:55:19.840 know it's actually quite romantic bro but imagine like but come on modern times like building a house

02:55:26.240 oh let me that's like the let me build you dog if she's if she's the woman of your dreams and like

02:55:31.760 it makes her whole world like what's wrong with that man and you and you lock her down like what's

02:55:35.840 wrong with that i think with today's housing like if someone could build you a house then yeah i'd sign

02:55:41.040 up for that any day especially if it's like a man i'm gonna marry you can build my house i could

02:55:45.120 say in the future yeah my man built this house like that's such a flex but dudes are watching right

02:55:49.680 now taking notes and they're like yo i need to figure out how to build a house for emily

02:55:55.520 uh but okay so you said you wish dating was how it used to be seen in old movies traditional

02:55:59.120 gentlemen court lady etc etc um just around the table do you agree with that um i'm somewhere in

02:56:07.600 the middle oh okay all right i like courting yeah sure uh definitely courting yeah that would be lovely

02:56:15.680 if that happened yeah yeah i think it could still exist if you've picked the right guy

02:56:23.120 wait sorry what is like modern dating like

02:56:31.600 emily emily why don't you explain what is modern dating like emily explain it go ahead

02:56:35.600 it's so modern dating here into the mic please i'd say i think a lot of a few of the ladies here um

02:56:41.680 oh loose pussy energy wow here i'm gonna pause it wow didn't know chase it what oh

02:56:49.040 sorry oh trying to get saved she want to get saved you can't save her a slurred feminist on the right

02:56:56.800 fell get used to being alone with your cats abdul you know what to do get the rocks hashtag your shirt

02:57:05.200 sucks get the rocks all right abdul i'm a fire back get the rocks i'm a fire back because he's calling

02:57:11.040 me a simp and captain save a hoe look bro you can call me whatever you want to call me the reality is

02:57:16.080 there's millions of women out there liking making the same kind of mistakes that she's making and it

02:57:20.640 bums me out to see anyone uh spend the rest of their lives alone and unhappy i don't want that to

02:57:26.400 happen to her if she keeps messing around with bad boys for the rest of her life and i would like

02:57:30.400 hopefully some other woman out there to learn from these mistakes and correct course dude because

02:57:35.680 these freaking wine ants living with their cats on antidepressants are ruining our society dude these

02:57:41.840 are all the women that are voting for hillary and railing against the patriarchy and doing all

02:57:46.800 this kind of stuff we need less of this okay i need i want to stop this

02:57:51.040 thank you shots fired okay um emily what's what's like traditional dating okay so i'd say traditional

02:58:02.960 dating is um wait did she ask what modern or traditional was modern dating and it's like yeah

02:58:09.520 women are expected to pay 50 50 like she said or take on like a a little bit of more of a leadership

02:58:16.640 role in the relationship like planning dates um what you don't think like the the woman should should

02:58:25.040 follow in her man's lead like i feel like a lot of that i was agreeing with you but oh you are okay

02:58:30.000 well not about the paying thing not about the pain brian doesn't like paying right right

02:58:36.480 brian doesn't want to pay he doesn't want to build any houses he wants to the dms and have

02:58:41.600 her come over with zero financial investment that's beautiful that's great cheapest approach

02:58:46.880 possible boom modern solutions to modern problems like go ahead in other in other societies like

02:58:55.120 not western culture and other cultures men were like required to show like bank statements and

02:59:00.560 financial like bank accounts just to prove that they could like financially provide for a woman like

02:59:05.360 no that's true like that's honestly that's honestly based yeah and a lot of cultures men were

02:59:09.360 literally required to show like this is how much money i have this is my taxes i can provide for

02:59:13.520 you know what i was a dad let me say this i agree with that i agree with that i also you know in old

02:59:20.400 in some of those societies where they had to show like bank statements or had to like show i don't

02:59:24.080 know like probably had to be like bars of gold or some shit i don't fucking know also they would be

02:59:29.680 like they had to look at the pussy and make sure the hymen was intact hello is that that actually

02:59:34.800 happened but i feel like if you want that then shouldn't women be virgins there's no

02:59:39.200 way to tell if a hymen intact is the result of losing your virginity actually that's you know

02:59:44.000 that right that is true however i'm just saying i'm not saying it's right i'm just saying that's

02:59:48.560 how it used to be son and also like but back then they didn't have a microscope to go up there and

02:59:53.120 check if it was no you just you don't need a microscope to look at the fucking hymen you just

02:59:56.560 look at it with your eyeballs you can see a hymen how did they i can see a hymen no here get on the

03:00:01.280 table nuts bro what are you taking like tongs out yeah what do you mean you don't need to just

03:00:06.960 spread in i don't know like i'm a fan deep in there the hymen's not deep in there it's literally

03:00:11.760 by the cervix how do you think the hymen whoa am i teaching you female anatomy here the hymen's at the

03:00:17.440 entrance of the vagina it's not at the cervix entrance the high wait are you actually teaching

03:00:22.480 me anatomy is it really at the entrance it's not at the cervix i thought it was near the cervix no the

03:00:28.560 cervix is at the very bottom like we need an obgyn to chime in like no the hymen is it no no no the

03:00:34.720 hymen is at the just bro why am i teaching women female anatomy hello it's at the entrance of the

03:00:39.840 vaginal canal no let's not how do i know this because i'm a researched i'm a learned man chase i

03:00:49.200 know these things yeah brian's right like if you were hey i'll agree i'll agree with the idea that we

03:00:54.080 need to go back to showing the father bars of gold for his virgin daughter i think that'd be sick

03:00:58.560 like we should totally return to those traditions not saying that we need to take out calipers and

03:01:02.960 check for hymens what do you think about that the whole gold bar hymen thing are you down for that

03:01:09.920 no you're not down it's not feminism bro is it not down no for which part the gold bar part or the

03:01:16.160 hymen part not the virginity the virginity thing okay okay we'll come back to that we'll come back

03:01:21.440 uh okay so emily hold on all right you said that uh wait okay hold on so okay

03:01:34.720 if that's what men were and are expected to do so be traditional gentlemen who will court a lady

03:01:41.280 take her out on lots of dates hold the door get flowers provide etc what are women expected to do

03:01:47.920 um yeah well you you create a home obviously if you're dating long term and you live with somebody

03:01:54.400 so like but but let me ask you a question though let me try to clarify so women it seems to me that

03:02:01.120 women demand men on the very early on in the relationship to adhere to these traditional gender

03:02:07.600 roles but women say well that's because months or years down the fucking road maybe possibly i will have

03:02:15.840 your kids and i will be the caretaker of the home i'm asking up front what are women expected to do

03:02:22.960 because you can go on the first date with a guy and and expect him to pay for the first date

03:02:28.000 and there's like how many first women are expected to do usually it's on sex like

03:02:35.120 traditionally speaking no no no modern modern day so yeah no i'm but i'm asking from a traditional

03:02:40.080 traditionally what are women expected to do well traditionally speaking there would not be a lot

03:02:45.360 of time in between the the dating and then finally getting married it would be a more like a quicker

03:02:50.960 kind of how quick i'd say traditionally lots of people and this still even happens in the south

03:02:56.320 people get married like very early around like 21 22 like especially in the south where it's more

03:03:02.000 traditional women and men will get married very early on and then the woman is already performing

03:03:07.360 her role in the house so it's like more of a matter of how long are you going to date somebody

03:03:11.200 before you're making but okay but we do also live in modern times so i guess my argument i'm trying

03:03:17.920 to make is is that women even feminist women or modern women still demand and expect men to adhere to

03:03:24.080 their traditional gender roles when it comes to protecting providing paying for first dates etc so again i'm

03:03:30.160 asking if these are all things that men are expected to do early on in the relationship what are women

03:03:35.760 expected to do oh i think that's particular to every man actually there'd be no not really because i

03:03:43.360 feel like every man would well let's i'd rather let the women answer this like a lot of men would agree

03:03:47.760 on what they would traditionally want her to give them but i feel like some men like he said he wants

03:03:53.360 a woman to be there and be his entire support system so i feel like that's he could probably speak

03:03:58.880 for a lot of men but but okay you've listed like i'm sure all the women here could list like a dozen

03:04:05.120 things or a handful of things that you expect a guy to do fairly early on in a relationship so i'm

03:04:11.680 asking what do you think men expect you to do or to bring early on in a relationship or the courtship

03:04:19.600 process i would say good behavior probably well that's expected of both men and women

03:04:26.160 hold on let's let the girls answer okay no no go ahead do you have more this is a great question

03:04:30.320 you have more um no actually i want to hear what everybody else has okay here we'll actually here

03:04:38.080 we'll go with you we'll go around then we'll end with you go ahead well i think it would be good

03:04:41.680 to establish who does think courtship traditional courtship is cool you said you were like 50 50.

03:04:46.720 no she wants men to pay for the first date so she's not 50 50. first date but are we also talking

03:04:51.680 about courtship like traditional courtship or no well she wants i'm assuming you want that

03:04:56.880 um like courtship is a very specific term yeah what is i don't know date let's i mean dating

03:05:04.080 i think we're getting away from the okay for example in your video you say you want a guy to pay for

03:05:08.800 the first date right okay so that's what you're expecting the guy to do what are women expected to do

03:05:13.920 yeah um i would say that the beginning stages of a relationship both parties are signaling the

03:05:22.960 value that they offer to each other so a man by paying for the first date is signaling provider

03:05:29.280 energy so i think what the woman brings is signaling to a man that she can bring feminine energy so that's

03:05:35.200 by not being overly masculine that's by being a nurturing presence that's by being interested in

03:05:40.480 what he has it's getting to know his mission his values and seeing they if they align with hers

03:05:45.840 and it's signaling to him like i will also allow you to be this masculine role in my life and that's

03:05:52.480 also what i'm looking for um so that's what i would do and that's how i've found success people can do

03:05:58.560 whatever they want um that's what i would say i bring to the table the question again is like what i bring

03:06:05.600 to i feel like i completely agree like i feel like it's not what you bring it's like what what

03:06:10.560 should be expected of you if you're expecting the man to take that masculine role and pay for the dates

03:06:15.200 and quote you well here really quick just yes or no uh who should pay for the first date um i would

03:06:23.760 i would like if the man paid for the first date the man who asked me yeah the man

03:06:28.240 i'd like the man but be fine with 50 50. sure the man the man um the man unless i don't like him

03:06:41.360 i think whoever asks should pay well for first date who who here has asked out a guy no and if you

03:06:49.920 well and if you have if you had to break up the percentage more often than not who's asking here go ahead

03:06:58.240 oh well are you asking if i passed yeah have you asked out of the guy no have you asked out of

03:07:02.560 the guy yeah more often than not though who's asking who definitely guys are asking girls what

03:07:08.640 percentage for you 90 percent the guy's asking maybe one time you asked yeah yeah one time she

03:07:14.240 asked a guy out okay i have i'd say it's like 80 20 sure asking i will pitch the idea but then

03:07:21.440 he'll ask so i'm not sure what that means but okay i've never asked never asked a guy out

03:07:27.040 i have not huh i haven't emily no but so how can you sit there and in good faith say whoever asks

03:07:35.280 should pay yet you know by your own admission that it's just almost i don't know if it's naive or just

03:07:41.440 glossing over the fact that de facto we know that men have to take initiative and men are the askers

03:07:47.280 well well no i that's you're assuming that i've never ever paid for a date before i feel like that

03:07:53.120 no what we're talking about you said whoever i've never asked somebody i've never asked them on a

03:07:57.520 date so yeah i'm saying if i asked a man on a date i would pay for it because i'm asking them to go

03:08:01.600 out and spend time with but whoever asks should pay is it it ignores the fact that men are almost

03:08:08.320 overwhelmingly being the initiators in the vast majority of heterosexual romantic relationships

03:08:14.080 yeah i feel like if you want to take a woman out and you're asking to take her out you should pay for

03:08:17.920 it right but saying whoever asks should pay ignores the fact that there is a burden on men to be the

03:08:26.160 askers because we as men we can't just sit back and wait for women to come to us and ask us out on

03:08:32.000 dates because it happens so infrequently yeah i guess it's specific to the situation like if you're

03:08:36.800 already dating someone like i've already dated somebody and i was like hey you want to go get ice

03:08:40.960 cream and then i paid for it because i asked them to go do it like i i suggested it they didn't

03:08:45.120 it wasn't their idea it was something i wanted like that's where i've done that but i've never

03:08:49.680 been went up to a man and say hey you want to go on a date with me so i don't know that experience

03:08:53.040 i've never had to do that whoever saying whoever asks should pay you may as well just say men should

03:08:57.680 pay because we know that women well yeah because women don't really ask men out on dates right so i

03:09:03.600 wouldn't date a man who's not going to ask me out that's what i'm saying i'm not going to date a

03:09:06.640 man that's not going to be confident to ask me out like i'm not going to right so there's

03:09:10.560 there's never an opportunity something i'm gonna have to do is my point okay fine what's wrong with

03:09:14.800 men paying for the first date yeah i have some thoughts on that i got some thoughts what's wrong

03:09:20.320 with it brian well i and i interrupted myself to ask the who should pay question but we were

03:09:25.440 going around on what is what is expected what are women expected to do so if we're talking about i

03:09:34.000 think all of you said you'd like a return to dating as it used to be seen in old movies traditional

03:09:39.840 gentlemen who will court a lady take her out on lots of dates hold the door buy flowers etc

03:09:45.360 so if that's the expectation for men what are women expected to do i think we left off at you

03:09:53.600 maybe or maybe it was you so this is like in the scheme of like the general scope of the relationship

03:09:58.480 not like just the first date you mean i'd say early on early on i mean obviously you're getting to know

03:10:05.200 the person right so i think just both of you are doing that yeah i mean but showing interest in him

03:10:10.400 like both of you are doing that i mean you yeah you support the conversation maybe i do bring him

03:10:15.920 something depending on time of year birthday i don't know occasion whatever like life life i don't know

03:10:22.960 like i've given guys gifts you know what i mean it depends i'm not even necessarily talking

03:10:27.040 uh something tangible like paying for a date or a gift or something but what about you god um i think

03:10:35.600 she brings loyalty and bring that too but okay do they though i mean i don't know not as much as

03:10:42.960 women i don't think they bring loyalty okay women bring loyalty on the first date are you loyal on the

03:10:47.840 first date oh we're talking first date okay well what do women bring on a first date they make you feel

03:10:51.920 good right you get giddy you get butterflies they make you feel good i mean that's goes both ways but

03:10:57.360 okay yeah okay go ahead so we're talking first first date what first few dates early on in the relationship

03:11:07.760 okay i feel like

03:11:15.840 we're talking in a traditional sense right sure yeah okay

03:11:21.920 i'm so sorry can you can you say one more time okay please don't make me repeat myself one more

03:11:28.960 time so she said she wishes dating was how it used to be seen in old movies right traditional

03:11:35.040 gentlemen who will court a lady take her out on lots of dates hold the door buy flowers etc a lot of

03:11:40.240 you said i i agree with that that's how it ought to be that's how it should be maybe some of you have

03:11:45.040 that expectation with the men that you're interested in dating so if that's what men are expected to do

03:11:50.640 to pay for first dates hold the door be gentlemen be protectors be providers i'm asking you very

03:11:55.440 simply what are women expected to do i would say or be honest be what be modest okay sure definitely

03:12:05.040 modest um ladylike sure feminine okay gentle good yep just sure what about you um letting him lead the

03:12:16.000 conversation i don't know i have me personally i just want like a guy to know that like i'm gonna

03:12:24.000 take i'm gonna let him take the lead and just you know vent to me you know just sure

03:12:31.440 um i guess just being feminine and looking good being feminine and looking good okay um yeah looking

03:12:38.960 good and be a good listener and also i think you can kind of like hype the guy up to make him feel

03:12:46.480 like they can protect you okay emily did you have more to add or yeah so um i agree with a lot of the

03:12:53.680 things that um they said where you know gentleness femininity um all of those traits which um elevate a

03:13:01.760 man's status so what you're actually doing as a woman going on a date with a man you are elevating his

03:13:06.160 status you're signaling to other men that he is capable of providing and attracting a high value

03:13:11.840 woman like that that is elevating his status to other men because it's it's a virtue signal that

03:13:16.080 he can get this many women or this specific woman and keep her so yeah i think it's and it's always

03:13:21.520 been this way a man back in the day seen with a very nice pretty girl on his arm was considered a

03:13:27.200 good it was respectable and it brought him respect value and it's yeah it's like esteem if that's my

03:13:33.920 girlfriend perhaps but i frankly if i'm meeting you at like a lounge for a drink or a coffee i don't

03:13:40.000 give a fuck what anybody in the wait so you don't care what she looks like that's what i'm talking

03:13:44.080 about that's not what i'm saying but no that i don't care about the other men in the bar and like

03:13:48.080 oh look at me i've got a hot girl i hope these other guys notice me and think i'm super cool because

03:13:53.280 i'm on a date with the hot what is it that you want i don't give a fuck what is it that you want so

03:13:56.720 you're saying you would walk into a date with a woman dressed like let's say like someone off the street

03:14:01.600 right she doesn't care about her it is the point though because you're signaling to other men

03:14:05.680 hold on hold on brian's talking about behaviors that he's looking for in women okay so so brian what

03:14:11.200 is it what what behaviors would you expect well the point i'm trying to make with this question

03:14:16.320 is you listed all these things as how you want traditional treatment but i went around the entire

03:14:23.680 table and a lot of the women here had difficulty articulating what given that the man would be doing

03:14:30.000 all these traditional things you had difficulty articulating what your end of the bargain is

03:14:35.200 what you're supposed to be bringing as a in the more traditional courtship let's say um you don't

03:14:42.320 even know what you got to do on your end of the bargain and i see all this all the time on the show on

03:14:47.920 dating apps women will talk endlessly about all the things they want in the guy from looks to

03:14:52.480 personalities to money yet what are you bringing to the table to deserve that sort of thing and you need

03:14:59.200 to ask yourself the reason i bring this up does the guy that you want want you you want that

03:15:06.160 traditional treatment what are you moving through the world in such a way that is deserving of being

03:15:12.320 able to secure that type of guy because if you want a man a good man who looks a certain way who's

03:15:17.600 attractive has a certain status makes good money it's not about what you want it's about what does he

03:15:24.960 want so what is it that you want brian well okay if you want like that i'm saying like if a lot of

03:15:30.560 these a lot of women want the traditional treatment they want courtship they want guys to pay for first

03:15:35.520 dates low body count the lower body count the better if you have a past of promiscuity

03:15:44.880 how if you're for example i don't even want to go on a date with a girl that's entertaining another guy

03:15:50.800 who's dating another guy who's sleeping with another guy so a lot of people and men do this too but if

03:15:57.360 you're moving in such a way where you're sleeping with other men you have a guy that you're sleeping

03:16:01.920 with and then you expect traditional treatment like not gonna happen i think i was agreeing with

03:16:08.240 you because i'm saying like if if obviously if a woman looks like she is promiscuous and has a high

03:16:13.760 body count that's not going to elevate your status that's what i'm saying being sure a high value woman is

03:16:18.400 what you bring to the other side of the table sure let me make a couple points here because what we're

03:16:23.200 talking about in this conversation it's like we're we're reaching to reclaim how things were in the

03:16:29.360 past we're talking about this concept of courtship right courtship is a process that historically has

03:16:35.040 been used to bring a man and a woman together under the guidance of the woman's father in order to

03:16:40.880 preserve her chastity so that the two of them can get married right this is a process that's reserved for

03:16:46.400 traditional women done by traditional men it's funny because like as i'm sitting here at this

03:16:53.120 table it's it's evident to me like this is you guys want this traditional treatment like i think

03:16:57.360 every every woman dreams of it you know you hear the story about the guy who built the woman the house

03:17:01.760 in the notebook it's like wow that's so romantic that's so sweet right like that's that's like a

03:17:05.840 traditional thing and i think all women in their hearts of hearts like they want a guy who's

03:17:10.160 traditional like that who wants to pursue them and wants to love them would you guys agree with that

03:17:14.560 yeah yes that behavior like historically yeah the agreement was a guy would pursue a woman like

03:17:22.880 that in a courtship only those two people would be talking so if like if i was courting you for

03:17:28.720 example the agreement would be you would not be talking to anybody else i would not be talking to

03:17:33.280 anybody else courtship was also something was that was reserved typically for virgins right women were

03:17:39.200 virgins throughout history we can rail about the patriarchy all we want but part of a father's job was

03:17:43.200 to protect his daughter's chastity because there's a lot of bad men out there right like we we're

03:17:48.480 dreaming of like reclaiming this thing from the past but it requires both men and women to actually

03:17:56.000 do each of their roles which is to brian's point like it's traditionally speaking a woman's job to

03:18:01.520 preserve her chastity and a woman who preserves her chastity is going to warrant that kind of

03:18:06.800 traditional treatment from a man compared to you know if a woman's sleeping around with a bunch of

03:18:11.680 different guys and then she's like no i want you to treat me traditionally he's going to look at her

03:18:16.240 and be like well you weren't traditional up until now like why should i why should i roll out the red

03:18:20.720 carpet when you just gave yourself so easily to all these other guys right that's like that's the

03:18:25.280 mental conundrum that the guys have it makes it challenging for them the ideal i think is for both

03:18:31.120 sexes to return to this tradition but it requires both men and women to fix their behavior and i think

03:18:36.240 that starts with every single one of us yeah and to add to just the body count thing so in the same way

03:18:41.680 women here wish for that return to tradition traditional courtship men paying for first

03:18:47.360 dates men providing men being protectors men opening the door for you etc etc uh

03:18:55.840 and most people wouldn't have any issue with you saying that if i as a guy say i wish women were still

03:19:01.920 virgins or heck even had a sub five body count who are modest both in behavior and appearance not

03:19:08.560 blasted in plastic surgery wanted to be submissive followed my lead were not quarrelsome who knew how

03:19:14.800 to take care of the internal affairs of the household i would get looked at as whoa misogynist

03:19:22.240 misogynist how dare you but that's the opposite side of the coin of the traditional demands that

03:19:27.920 you want from men yep you're equating that to opening a car door flowers like flowers car door like

03:19:35.040 paying for a ten dollar date like those are such like tiny simple things versus like what you're

03:19:40.400 asking about a woman is like what's already been of her past so in your case matters though you

03:19:47.360 i'm not not saying that but i'm asking like so in order to go on a date for you personally with a

03:19:52.080 woman do you talk to her for a while and ask her about her body count before the date happens just

03:19:56.480 so you make sure that you pay for someone who has only had less than five because she also can lie

03:20:03.920 and she could never know so it's like i hope she wouldn't though no i should i hope she wouldn't

03:20:08.800 lie because i think honesty is because you're basing your actions on the first date based off of who

03:20:15.120 she is or what she's already done so it's like not a physical or like even a behavioral thing really

03:20:19.840 it's like oh she can body count on body counts pretty behavioral but and but i'm saying like in that

03:20:25.040 first date like like that stuff that she already had done regardless of that you know what i mean

03:20:31.360 so it's like she can put a turtleneck on and say she's never been with anybody but it's like well i

03:20:34.800 certainly hope that our first interaction is not predicated on deception and a lie but i'm just

03:20:41.200 curious for you is that like your norm of like you usually like to talk to a woman and ask her those

03:20:45.840 certain oh yeah i typically would i'll have a conversation with a woman beforehand i might not just

03:20:51.600 outright be like how many dudes have you fought but i might try to ask some questions what's your

03:20:56.080 relationship history that can sort of give me an inkling okay she's dated maybe this many guys that

03:21:02.080 could be a slight indicator does she drink does she party does she go to bars nightclubs etc let me

03:21:06.880 look at her instagram that could potentially be an indicator granted there's a lot of women who

03:21:11.200 are very unassuming they might be a bit shy they might actually present modestly but secretly they have

03:21:18.080 quite a past so it's not always a perfect indicator but we as men we will try to suss out these things

03:21:24.560 through alternative means um but i'm also okay just outright asking so okay what's okay what's your

03:21:30.640 body count i'll ask that's crazy that you put so much importance on body count like that's just so

03:21:37.440 crazy to me why is it crazy because i just don't see why it matters like why does it matter what i mean

03:21:42.720 like i can understand like if she cheated okay she cheated okay that's i get that sure how many

03:21:47.520 people she chose to sleep with i don't understand how that is like relevant well so for for i'll answer

03:21:55.760 that and there's a there's a ton of reasons why i think one of the probably one of the most important

03:22:00.720 reasons at least for me is that when i'm dating a girl i want her even on the first date i want her

03:22:07.520 undivided sexual and romantic attention if she's going out and dating other men sleeping with other men

03:22:12.320 first off i don't even that's not a woman that i even want to pursue i want a woman to be properly

03:22:17.840 single when i'm even first meeting her and i think a lot of people don't move that way um so body count

03:22:24.800 your past is proxy for promiscuity promiscuity is proxy for there's a good chance that when i'm

03:22:32.800 talking to her when i meet her she's got another guy in the picture there's another guy that she's

03:22:37.600 sleeping with to me that's gross i don't want to i don't want to date you i don't want to kiss you i don't

03:22:42.080 want to have i certainly don't want to have sex with a woman who's having sex with another man

03:22:46.400 so is that complicated for you to understand or does that kind of no i totally understand but so

03:22:50.800 somebody who has a high body count that can be a proxy for current promiscuity so if you have a

03:22:56.480 high body count you could be sleeping there's a greater likelihood that you're sleeping with

03:23:01.440 another guy while i'm talking to you i certainly don't want that also if you have a high body count

03:23:06.560 greater likelihood of std and also you've you've started to the more sexual partners you have the

03:23:13.600 greater difficulty it come when it comes to pair bonding with somebody if you've had 50 previous

03:23:18.160 sexual partners and i'm number 51 i'm you're not going to view me in a particularly special way at

03:23:23.200 least that's my view and i think we all both men and women want to be viewed as special to our

03:23:28.400 potential romantic partners to our potential future husbands and wives if i'm number 51 i'm number 101

03:23:34.160 like that's that's and the big thing also this is a differential between men and women so i could

03:23:41.120 list a bunch of examples that i think apply to both men and women stds i think it's the case for both

03:23:45.920 men and women you could certainly make arguments that um that the actual act of sexual intercourse the

03:23:51.360 transmission rate might be different there might be a differential there perhaps women are more

03:23:55.440 susceptible to getting an std than the reverse for various reasons due to anatomy but we don't need to

03:24:01.040 get into that um the big difference though that does not exist in women that does exist in men

03:24:06.720 and i would argue this is a evolutionary psychology basis biological basis is paternity uncertainty so

03:24:13.360 men it's it's not even necessarily an intellectual thing a woman who is promiscuous

03:24:19.680 you cannot guarantee the paternity of your child if she's promiscuous how are you gonna dna test well

03:24:25.680 but that doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution so for example a woman who has

03:24:31.280 10 husbands right if she sleeps with all of them who's the fucking father whereas a man who has 10

03:24:38.880 wives you know who the father is in each of those instances so women can if you have a child you know

03:24:45.680 with certainty that the child is yours obviously because of just the anatomical and biological reality

03:24:50.800 that women are the ones who give birth but women we since we don't give birth we cannot with certainty

03:24:56.480 know if the child is ours so one of the best ways to be certain of that is one if she's a virgin

03:25:02.560 or two we know that she's not promiscuous and has a low body count i have a question sure um

03:25:09.120 and do you want to respond to that or maybe you respond and then

03:25:11.920 i i don't know i guess i'm just not i'm just i i i somewhat understand like what you're saying

03:25:20.400 why are women attracted to tall men tall tall men why are women attracted to muscular men because they

03:25:27.200 can protect them maybe this like i don't know okay like giving but is it okay sure right so in that

03:25:33.920 same way men are attracted to women who are not promiscuous it's like uh it's ingrained in us

03:25:42.160 it's going to further your bloodline really well because you mentioned you mentioned um

03:25:46.960 well we have dna tests now but dna because just because we have this invention of of human brilliance

03:25:53.520 doesn't undo again the fact that there's been hundreds of thousands of years of evolution it's

03:25:57.920 ingrained in us as men and again this thing does not exist in women paternity there when it comes to

03:26:04.320 the maternity i guess or whatever this it's impossible to exist in women because when you have

03:26:11.360 a child you know with certainty that that that's your child but you could be hooking up with another

03:26:18.400 dude we don't know that kid might not be ours so that so men have a more natural revulsion to

03:26:25.680 female promiscuity than the reverse not to say that i think women are totally justified in taking issue

03:26:31.920 and quarrel with male promiscuity however there's not that ingrained biological and evolutionary basis

03:26:38.560 that exists that exists in men it's it's this simple let's say i'm talking to two women

03:26:46.160 one of them has a zero body count the other has a body count of 50 which one of them do you think

03:26:51.520 i'm going to feel more confident in her um being like which one do you think will inspire more

03:26:58.720 confidence in her fidelity long term 50 i'm just kidding the virgin right exactly and it's just it's a

03:27:05.040 natural immediate instinct right and it's it's it's really that simple it's like our biology our dna

03:27:11.920 like it's it it hunts for that like purity and there is there is like a revulsion a revulsion

03:27:18.240 towards that promiscuity because it is biologically very dangerous for a man to commit to a woman who

03:27:24.240 might sleep with another man who he might end up raising the child of like it's thousands of years of

03:27:29.760 like programming don't you think there's purity in a girl that is loyal to you regardless of body

03:27:35.360 count like she's talking about like sexual purity yeah but i just mean like taking away body count

03:27:41.040 let's say she has a lot of body count but she's loyal to you she's never slept with anyone but you

03:27:45.440 since being with you isn't there purity in that too like why is it just like i wouldn't call that like

03:27:50.640 purity i would call it loyalty but the question of why it matters is like for example okay so you could

03:27:57.040 have a woman who has a 50 body count and she could be the most loyal woman in the world but a man is

03:28:02.480 still going to want to know hey how did that happen like what what like if a guy cares about body count

03:28:07.520 he's going to want to know how did that happen what happened there what compelled you to sleep with all

03:28:11.600 these men like what was the pattern that unfolded what was it in your psychology like he's probably going

03:28:18.320 to want to understand that if it's something that he cares about because ultimately at the end of the

03:28:22.240 day it's like is this woman going to be loyal to me in the future like loyalty is extremely extremely

03:28:28.160 important obviously to both sexes you know that's one aspect of it another aspect of it too is like

03:28:33.680 like brian was talking about before us men are extremely territorial when it comes to women that

03:28:39.920 we're really into like if a guy doesn't really care about a woman that much like he might not care if

03:28:45.120 she's seeing other guys but if a guy really likes a woman and he really loves her he's not going to want

03:28:50.000 to share her with other men in the present or in the past you know it's like it's it's a sex is a

03:28:56.240 very sacred thing you know especially from a man towards a woman and obviously no woman wants a guy

03:29:01.600 who's going to cheat on her but it's it's it's different like for us men it's a very territorial

03:29:09.280 thing like that's your woman like you don't want another man touching her and you know her past can

03:29:14.960 affect that who do you think cheats more men or women i think on average it's men why do you

03:29:19.920 think it's i saw a stat the other day i think it was like divorce statistics and how many of those

03:29:25.520 divorces are filed because of adultery and i think the statistic was like 34 it was the women woman

03:29:31.920 cheating and 38 was the men man cheating i think it was slightly higher for much of a difference what

03:29:38.000 was your question though you asked why do you think that is yeah well i think you know it's bio i mean

03:29:42.960 biologically speaking men like we have a biological drive to spread our seed as far as possible it's

03:29:51.360 just part of our nature that doesn't mean it has to dominate us but like it's just part of our nature

03:29:56.000 you know a lot of guys like you know guys will i know guys who have cheated on their girlfriends and

03:30:00.960 they typically just cheat because they feel an impulsive physical desire and that's like that's really

03:30:06.560 like it's hard to describe what it's like being a guy but like you know when you've got testicles

03:30:11.280 like your body's like yo we've got loads we got to deliver like get them out you know yeah uh it's

03:30:15.760 it's different like women are kind of wired more emotionally towards sex whereas guys are much more

03:30:21.120 like physical like i need to get this out of my system and i think that's why guys more often cheat

03:30:27.040 like cheating for women is like it's sex in general for women is typically a very emotional

03:30:31.680 process like if you imagine you guys would agree like if you don't feel an emotional connection with

03:30:36.240 a guy you're probably not going to want to sleep with him would you agree with that yeah yeah it's not

03:30:41.120 the same for men oftentimes you know guys will just have sex with a woman i'm going to try to uh

03:30:46.720 blast through some of these chats here that are going to come in and um hold on that one thing

03:30:51.760 oh really quick on the body count thing you mentioned like why does the past matter

03:30:55.360 um i mean i would argue i mean you certainly a woman who used to a woman who used to be promiscuous

03:31:05.520 and is no longer promiscuous is more desirable than a woman who has a past of promiscuity and

03:31:11.120 ongoing promiscuity but i would also say that a woman who doesn't have a past of promiscuity and

03:31:16.880 is currently not promiscuous is more desirable than the other things too um but if past doesn't matter

03:31:23.040 let me go around the table on this would you date a guy who has slept with men yes

03:31:28.320 oh i'm not sure maybe yeah okay no uh huh but hold on i thought that this is the past

03:31:41.520 that's sexual preference though like that i don't know that's okay so you wouldn't date a guy who's

03:31:45.760 bi no okay let's say he used to but not anymore he's straight it doesn't work that way no maybe

03:31:52.800 you know you're either by or you're not well let's say it's been like five years he hasn't slept with a

03:31:57.600 man no but he's the potential i the potential in the future it could happen right oh wait the

03:32:06.720 potential in the future it could happen oh man that was rich yes well exactly exactly why body

03:32:12.640 count matters because body count is an indicator for uh infidelity oh no sleep with a lot of people

03:32:19.280 like they've done studies on this they've done studies the light bulb just go off no i don't think

03:32:23.440 it indicates oh sorry i don't think your past i mean the thing is i agree it's hard for people to

03:32:30.720 change but i don't necessarily think your past indicates like i'm not gonna assume it's not my

03:32:37.200 partner is gonna do something based on something he's done in the past i would rather trust who he

03:32:42.080 is in this present moment so you're saying you're saying if you if you met a guy and he cheated on his

03:32:48.320 past 10 girlfriends that's different but that's exactly cheated but you're just saying promiscuity

03:32:53.760 you're not saying that all these women every single of their 50 body count was a cheating no

03:32:58.960 that's not what i'm saying but they've actually done numerous studies on this numerous studies

03:33:04.720 and promiscuity is a very strong indicator for infidelity very strong indicator and i would argue

03:33:12.160 that past behavior is typically a very strong indicator for future behavior um but going around

03:33:19.200 the table would you date a guy who slept with men no no no don't lie tiffany come on

03:33:28.320 oh emily's gone okay let me get these chats guys sorry we had to mute them because we're just getting

03:33:32.400 too many so i'm just going to go ahead and trigger all of these pretty much all one after the other

03:33:36.640 sorry for you know i know we say instant tts but it was just getting too disruptive raven dt

03:33:42.080 donated 100 i was not serious about the you cannot do a purity check to look for a hymen

03:33:48.320 they come in many different shapes and you cannot tell if there was penetration or not

03:33:53.600 this has been debunked check out mama dr jones obg yes i'm i'm aware that the presence of a hymen

03:34:01.360 or lack of presence of a hymen is not an indicator necessarily for virginity i was more

03:34:06.480 so just trying to make a point about virginity being something that was that's uh value typically

03:34:11.440 and then we have vash the stampede thank you man vash underscore the underscore stampede donated 99

03:34:19.120 emily you're so amazing she's behind the scenes for upholding traditional values i grew up mormon

03:34:25.600 and have been disheartened by the promiscuity of the modern feminist i would rule simp city and build

03:34:31.520 your house back i guess brian your high end game is on point what okay my all right oh hold on

03:34:39.920 fuck yo before you show that to her can i respond to grids right there uh no no let me let me just

03:34:46.880 get through these hold on uh nickelodeon can we get a vote in chat what's more obnoxious chase long-winded

03:34:52.240 rants or tts that keeps brian's lights on ps did your bf teach you the difference between nationalism

03:34:57.200 and joining the kkk what oh this is this is for her this is for tiffany wait what saint underscore

03:35:05.120 easy donated 99 what are women supposed to do not be a feminist ha ha okay thank you saint breezy did

03:35:14.880 you want to respond to nickelodeon what did he say i thought he was talking to you no he's talking to

03:35:21.200 you your boyfriend brand yeah well he's not my boyfriend yet but yeah okay all right um emily

03:35:29.760 this one just came through

03:35:34.320 vash underscore the underscore stampede donated 99 emily you're so amazing thank you for upholding

03:35:42.880 traditional values i grew up mormon and have been disheartened by the promiscuity of the modern

03:35:48.560 feminist i would rule simp city and build you a house brian your hymen game is on point beautiful

03:35:56.800 do you have a response to grid one motorsports that's pretty beast or sorry that was bash the

03:36:00.560 stampede excuse me not bash the stampede was based thank you all right we have grid one motorsports

03:36:07.840 grid one motorsports donated 99 dollars based emily my wife keeps me around because i build things

03:36:15.840 it is what i do she did not marry me because i talk about sweet things she married me because i get

03:36:22.560 things done made her feel safe and since the day we met she has been the only one all right we have

03:36:30.160 thank you man thank you good woman all right we have raven dt here

03:36:34.640 raven dt donated 100 body count is directly proportional to the way she moves in the sexual

03:36:44.960 slash dating marketplace and her overall sexual temperance if a woman has slept with 100 men

03:36:52.480 then it means she doesn't respect herself so why would she respect you as a mate

03:36:56.960 disagree you disagree i totally disagree with that and i would flip it too and i would say

03:37:05.120 um do you give that same kind of standard to men like do you like that's that it bugs me to my core

03:37:11.920 and i think like the thing is i'm not a feminist or anything like that but what bugs me in my core is

03:37:15.920 the double standard of men can do whatever they want they can stick their dick in whatever they want and

03:37:20.720 it's cool but god forbid a woman have multiple sexual partners that it bugs out of me because

03:37:31.120 put your same logic to yourself and who should pay for the first date the man that's a double standard

03:37:37.360 there's all kinds of double standards that happen to exist some benefit men some benefit women i would

03:37:42.400 say though i don't my personal view on promiscuity i don't think it's good for either either gender

03:37:48.480 i don't think it's a granted i do think that there are some differences hold on i'll come back

03:37:53.440 to that one hundred and one dollars women always admitting that they are themselves the liars through

03:37:59.760 the statement slash question she could lie imagine using a hypothetical of lying as an argument

03:38:05.920 tells a lot about you and your character lie brian plaza host the podcast not chase all right well

03:38:12.240 there you have it thank you uh jacama appreciate it um i what were you saying sorry

03:38:18.400 i was saying i i don't understand why you think that a man paying on the date is the equivalent of

03:38:24.640 like a double standard well it is a it's an expectation that you have on men that you don't

03:38:29.360 hold for yourself or for other women that is a double standard doesn't the man ask the woman huh the

03:38:34.560 man asked the woman though so so why would he but it's a double i'm again there are double standards

03:38:40.960 that benefit women there are double standards that benefit men it is what it is i don't think it's

03:38:45.680 desirable for men or women to be promiscuous because i mean one i don't think like there's

03:38:50.960 this trope about oh it's high value to like i it's high value for a guy to just like sleep with a

03:38:57.200 bunch of chicks first off like the risk of std is i don't think it's high value if you catch herpes and

03:39:02.640 you're going to be bringing your future wife or children uh a disease so like i don't care how

03:39:08.880 attractive or how rich you are if you're bringing your future partner some sort of like vd that's

03:39:16.080 not the high status or cool um so yeah it's certainly not alpha to have herpes in my view

03:39:23.040 um but uh i think men should be held to that standard she's talking about a little bit whereas

03:39:28.720 like that yeah don't just stick your dick in anything because then sure but yeah but then women

03:39:33.920 would also just naturally follow into your interiorly most of the time into the lead of

03:39:38.560 the man and raven bt donated 100 i have a body count of seven one was a marriage that ended in

03:39:46.720 divorce the rest were in the pursuit of long-term relationships good men who want marriage are not

03:39:53.200 whoring themselves around either yeah i mean the difference is when it comes to the double standard

03:39:58.080 those i would argue that there there is a differential insofar as it's rather difficult comparatively

03:40:03.840 speaking it's hard for men to get laid whereas it's very easy for women to get laid so for a

03:40:10.320 guy to be able to sleep with a lot of women even though i don't think that that's necessarily a good

03:40:15.520 thing to some degree that's impressive whereas it's not impressive for a woman to sleep with a lot

03:40:20.800 of men because it's very easy for women to get laid whereas it's rather difficult for men to get laid

03:40:26.160 agree disagree sounds like i don't know i agree with that like any single girl here if you're so

03:40:31.920 inclined it's 8 30 p.m on a sunday like you could go download the dating app and like go get laid

03:40:37.360 tonight even even below average looking women nearly here's here's what i've said before nearly

03:40:44.720 any woman if she wanted to could be a slut i would argue a very small proportion of men can be sluts

03:40:52.080 they might want to but the difference is the is the capacity to do it i would say maybe like the top

03:40:59.360 10 percent of men can slide around top three maybe yeah well also when it comes to sexual pull i would

03:41:05.600 argue that take an average woman's sexual pull in order for a man to get the same degree of sexual

03:41:11.440 attention from women that women that an average woman gets from a man he needs to be like an a-list

03:41:17.200 celebrity a top tier like so we're talking top tier athlete musician point where like nick what do

03:41:23.920 you do okay guillotine guillotine um so like it there's just so many differences when it comes to

03:41:31.360 that but um here let me get this last chat here we have jay butler on the herpes thing he's always

03:41:38.400 talking about nine dollars on a long enough timeline if you sleep with enough people you

03:41:43.440 will get genital herpes as condoms do not protect from this 60 bodies equals exposure to 12 infected

03:41:50.800 partners now you need to be taken out to pasture and be put down filthy filthy filthy filthy okay there

03:41:58.000 you have it thank you uh jay butler appreciate it let me get some of these super chats here uh one sec

03:42:03.600 here guys i'm just waiting okay we have grid one motorsports wife is the vp for number one investment

03:42:10.480 bank in the u.s it is a tough job most her oh uh female co-workers have moved to less demanding jobs

03:42:17.040 more men bail percentage-wise than women the toll it takes is high our marriage would not survive if i

03:42:22.160 was not retired okay there you go grid one motorsports thank you man appreciate it we have

03:42:27.520 modest jacama jackie work for company in seattle with women in engineering internship jackie works for

03:42:34.400 microsoft only big boys getting away with ignoring affirmative action reversal since penalty

03:42:40.400 is zero dollars relatively jackie why ms over samsung with 20 south korean gdp gross domestic product

03:42:49.280 what first i don't work for microsoft i work for amazon oh all right there you have it we have monster

03:42:57.200 kama brian i encourage you to not let chase convince you to pause or raise tts what is the business

03:43:01.600 literally your words in this episode maybe let chase know sorry chase i know you're based but that

03:43:06.000 unbased chase losing you money i mean it's it's sometimes it's a little interruptive and it so

03:43:11.920 it can interrupt the flow of the conversation we have grid one motorsports was not aware this was

03:43:16.720 the chase show uh-oh i've had three chats ignored neat oh yeah it's just we had to uh pause it it was

03:43:23.680 just way too interruptive and we i'm we're already behind with some of the other notes i have to get

03:43:27.520 through so sorry grid one motorsports i didn't mean to push yours like an hour out there has to be a

03:43:33.520 happy medium between answering them once every hour and a half versus every 30 seconds what does

03:43:38.240 based mean don't worry about it um it and the so if something's like cool and truthful and like

03:43:46.480 based in reality real got you yeah i mean and also i mean i'm open to the chat's feedback because

03:43:51.200 certainly like it for example if we had the tts way too low like if we said that to 20 it would

03:43:56.160 literally be like we wouldn't even be able to have a conversation so i was it was kind of a balance

03:44:01.920 between well i i don't want to boost it but let's pause it so it's not instant and we'll just like

03:44:07.120 pick a specific time to do the tts normally we don't do that normally it's just not so interruptive

03:44:12.480 but it is what it is we have uh grid one motorsports chats lose relevance when we're at an hour later

03:44:18.160 yeah sorry man it's just we've gotten in so many so i don't want to have to boost some of the chats but

03:44:24.480 it's just been super frequent frequent this show so uh sorry to the sorry to some of you i know i

03:44:30.640 i really first off i really appreciate your patronage and you guys are spending like good

03:44:34.320 money supporting the show being patrons and i know you guys want your chats to be read as quickly as

03:44:38.560 possible but we've just the frequency has been so quick the show that uh for the sake of the

03:44:43.520 conversation we just had to do little pauses here and there so appreciate you guys bearing with us on

03:44:48.160 that i apologize too on behalf of brian that was that was my call i didn't mean for you guys to waste

03:44:52.560 your money on your super chats it was just it was tough because earlier in the show it was like

03:44:56.320 literally every three minutes it was very frequent we couldn't even have a conversation and i still

03:45:01.040 have like a ton of notes here i need to get through so we'll try to get through them as quickly as

03:45:04.560 possible so okay i think we left off with emily i believe hold on uh oh emily you said i'm dating for

03:45:12.800 marriage eventually and i look for qualities of a good husband in the people i want to date without

03:45:17.280 even consciously realizing it i feel like that can be hard with the dating culture today because most

03:45:22.320 people want something short-term that doesn't have a lot of boundaries who said this emily right over

03:45:27.840 here yeah i almost feel though like a lot of women will say this but while waiting to find the right

03:45:35.680 guy well you're you're gonna have your fun and just have casual sex with fuck boys jerks bad boys and

03:45:41.200 assholes not you specifically yeah not you specifically but um so yeah interesting i got some solutions for

03:45:51.600 you i know a lot of dudes that are looking for traditional women like solid dudes i could hook

03:45:59.280 you up and like church probably yeah they're almost all christian yeah here we have strana here i'll just

03:46:05.600 get it while it came up uh would you marry a virgin if you could and take your chance they would be bad

03:46:10.320 in bed i i suppose this is for everybody maybe this is directed at the men but i guess we could go around

03:46:15.200 the table would you marry a virgin um i guess i'm not opposed to it but i wouldn't prefer it you wouldn't

03:46:24.080 prefer it i wouldn't prefer a virgin versus not a virgin why is that um because i want somebody who

03:46:32.400 knows how to have sex okay yeah because i also feel like i want somebody who knows how to handle

03:46:40.240 their sexual desire too because if they've never had sex before and then have sex and then like become

03:46:47.360 a porn addict or just become addicted and like end up cheating because they have never had to control

03:46:53.520 their sexual desire before and then i don't know controlling their desire though i'm pretty sure

03:46:58.160 they're controlling their desire fairly well but i get what you're saying but you know what i mean

03:47:02.560 like i feel like they could just end up once they have it like just i don't know not be able

03:47:09.760 to be loyal i don't know because i actually knew of this happening once there was this couple

03:47:16.000 and she married a guy who was a virgin and then years into their marriage she found out he was like

03:47:23.360 sleeping with prostitutes and she found her seeds and all this stuff it's a very specific thing for

03:47:30.160 sure and i think it's definitely backwards than what you're talking about i think men that have

03:47:33.920 more sexual history are definitely more well yeah i'm not saying that either but i just i also feel like

03:47:40.080 balance is key for everything so i don't i don't think i would desire someone who's a virgin but

03:47:45.280 i don't desire someone who's extremely permissuous though either um yeah i would because sex is so

03:47:53.040 teachable like you can teach somebody what you like it's very very teachable okay i would but i

03:48:00.560 don't know if i would find myself attracted to a virgin okay um by the way just letting you guys know

03:48:09.680 since i'm going around the table you guys can preemptively you know we don't need like a five

03:48:15.840 second pause but go ahead go ahead um i would because i'd be marrying for love not for the sex

03:48:23.520 i prefer a virgin uh i i don't really care i look for other qualities yeah i would do it chase what

03:48:31.680 about you yeah definitely i mean you can if you're a man and you have strong frame and your woman desires

03:48:37.520 you like you can teach her how to have great sex with you and if she really desires you it's probably

03:48:41.760 going to unfold like that yeah there's a there's a direct correlation between the enjoyment of sex

03:48:46.320 and how how much desire your partner has for you i would i would definitely get with a virgin prefer

03:48:52.000 i'd prefer a virgin or just like low body count i mean i i don't need the girl to be a virgin but

03:48:56.880 low body count is definitely uh preferable for sure you don't want to get married do you

03:49:02.080 not really i heard you say that on another show that you don't want to get married may you know

03:49:06.160 listen could i meet the right girl who could convince me she's just amazing it's possible

03:49:13.440 it's not possible it's possible you have to convince a man no it's possible no i could have a monogamous

03:49:20.960 life long partner but i think uh and i don't want to get in i don't just because we're yeah we don't

03:49:27.760 have a bunch of time and i i want to get through a bunch of notes but uh i do think there are some

03:49:31.840 valid reasons why um marriage is not a great move from a religious perspective fantastic but

03:49:40.080 the the issue is when it comes to marriage this the state oversees your marriage not your religion

03:49:46.320 really so if and also when your wife if she so chooses to divorce you she's not going to go to the

03:49:53.040 church she's going to go to the state to get alimony to get xyz to get community property to get half

03:50:00.160 the house to get half the assets she'll go to the state not the church so for that reason if if the

03:50:07.920 state was not so heavily involved in the affairs of romance and love and marriage i might be more

03:50:13.520 inclined to do it prenup prenups frequently get challenged and thrown out and sometimes deemed

03:50:19.920 unenforceable for a variety of reasons prenups are only as if a woman is motivated enough she can

03:50:26.480 try to get out of a prenup some evil women have you it's not it's not i'm just a practical person

03:50:31.680 who sees the reality of the uh family court system the bias against men in the family court system

03:50:38.080 divorce laws etc it's not so i have a question if you did have a lifelong monogamous partner and she

03:50:43.760 stayed at home for you and um would you set something up for her in case you guys separated and

03:50:50.960 she would have like money after that like a week a monthly um check because like if you're not

03:50:55.840 marrying her but she's expected to sacrifice years of her career to be at home with you what is she if

03:51:01.520 she's not getting marriage in return how is she going to be protected yes so so within the traditional

03:51:06.640 paradigm of that there there certainly is a case to be made for alimony being justified if she has

03:51:13.120 genuinely sacrificed her career to be a stay-at-home mother she has made sacrifices in the pursuit of a

03:51:19.280 career and having children and if i were to leave her then that would present to her some substantial

03:51:26.800 financial burden there there are some very legitimate rational reasons for alimony being

03:51:33.360 justified what i don't like however is the state coming in and saying well okay you're a really high

03:51:41.200 earning man therefore you need to be paying your wife six figures a month because you earn this much

03:51:47.520 uh i don't think a woman is entitled to continuity into lifestyle at the breakdown of the relationship

03:51:55.440 i think there ought to be some degree of limit on the like these fucking celebrities that get divorced

03:52:02.560 you know how you get continuity in your lifestyle by staying with that person now granted husbands i

03:52:08.400 suppose could be the initiators of divorce or be abusive where it's just so warranted that the woman

03:52:15.840 initiates the divorce however i don't think that's really frequently the case and the fact of the

03:52:20.880 matter is women overwhelmingly are the ones who are initiating divorces 80 of divorces are initiated by

03:52:26.880 women so there's going to have to be some sort of rewriting of these alimony laws uh to make it a bit more

03:52:37.920 equitable let's say so you would rewrite the alimony law like what you didn't i don't know

03:52:42.080 specifically how do you want do you want like outside of marriage do you want a lifetime partner

03:52:46.640 like that oh yeah definitely have kids with him yeah have kids i'm yeah what kids we could do kids

03:52:52.240 she she is she does raise an interesting point because i mean you you know if a woman is your

03:52:56.720 stay-at-home wife and all that kind of stuff yeah stay-at-home mom she would she would be totally

03:53:01.040 dependent on you and out of curiosity like how would you give her security in that kind of situation without

03:53:06.400 a ring how would i give her security yeah like how could you guarantee her security because she's

03:53:13.200 she's raising the excellent point like if at some point in time you hypothetically were like you know

03:53:16.480 what i'm over it i want to go be with some other chick like she'd be screwed you know that's that's

03:53:21.360 a fair point so that's a fair point well i mean i would argue that you know child support could

03:53:26.400 potentially come in and child support even if you're not married uh they can claw quite a bit of you

03:53:31.600 know in that case um look i think there ought to be a a healthy balance and when it comes to

03:53:38.880 these sorts of laws when it comes to alimony and i just i don't see it with the current marriage laws

03:53:43.600 that there are i'm not trying to convince you to get married i'm just yeah i'm i'm i think it's a

03:53:48.080 great question that you brought up because you know you're like you've said many times you're a

03:53:51.840 businessman i'm a businessman you're a businessman i don't sign contracts uh that that don't benefit me

03:53:57.440 yeah you want you want a good deal but i'm i'm i'm trying to look at it like okay what if what

03:54:01.440 if i was a woman and i wanted to be with brian it'd be a freaking bad deal to like to invest my

03:54:07.920 life with no security guaranteed from you that's a pretty bad deal for a woman it's a great deal

03:54:13.680 fantastic deal let me tell you why it's a great deal here here's a great deal shares maybe

03:54:20.640 no besides getting to be with you like your company maybe very very risky for her not that

03:54:26.720 risky very it's like it's like you're spinning on your hand and you're shaking hers and you're like

03:54:30.720 i'll never leave you don't worry believe me but that's the same thing with marriage no no no no

03:54:36.880 that's the exact same thing with marriage do you know how much a divorce costs though what you're

03:54:42.160 not just saying it's not it's not look i see what you're saying i see what you're saying it's not the

03:54:46.560 exact same thing with marriage because like there is like it's you go through a whole process there's

03:54:52.080 a ceremony like there's a societal expectation like part of you know part of

03:54:56.560 why it's shameful to divorce is because you're making these vows in front of everybody that you

03:55:02.480 know hey i'm going to be faithful to you you're going to be faithful to me and then there's social

03:55:05.760 shame associated with breaking that so it's not exactly the same as like getting married

03:55:11.440 i mean i'm describing basically just a verbal agreement and a handshake hey yeah we'll be together

03:55:15.840 for life and then i mean the woman's like okay i i hope he means it you know yeah that's freaking

03:55:22.000 risky bro sure and i i would argue that in the past this wasn't so much a concern right because we had a

03:55:29.920 better social fabric people more were i mean there was far less divorce historically um now we see the

03:55:37.760 divorce rate is crazy women overwhelmingly are the ones to initiate divorce that's why from a male

03:55:43.520 perspective i have far greater concerns and worries when it comes to potential divorce than

03:55:52.400 then perhaps i could have expected 50 60 70 80 100 plus years ago um also i would say that the

03:56:00.480 the family court system is very gynocentric there's bias against men in the court system yeah that's true

03:56:05.840 so it's just look you know what i think you should do just become a monk i think no

03:56:13.520 i think you should be the man of god that you say they are okay go find a good woman and be the

03:56:20.000 social fabric that you want to see in the world brian no i look the nuclear family great kids marriage

03:56:27.520 religious marriage great but again we have the state we have this court system yeah no i see your

03:56:32.720 point and look dangerous and and here's the thing right in california especially in california

03:56:38.240 what are the vows that they say till death do us part uh that has to mean something till death do us

03:56:44.960 part if i were to get married to a girl that's just for life there ain't no there is no divorce but

03:56:50.480 there is but there's not but there is i wouldn't get divorced you remember when we had this conversation

03:56:55.520 with deborah and sam and gorlach yeah yeah i dude i looked at and we were talking about like you you

03:57:01.120 made the claim that uh christian marriages like still had super high failure rates dude i so i

03:57:06.960 looked this up i started it's less i started digging into the data families that regularly go to church

03:57:11.840 together and read the bible together and pray together the divorce rate is less than one percent

03:57:17.760 yeah chase can i ask you a question what's up so i guess i watched the show and i watched it

03:57:24.720 uh the kotak rats are donated 99 dollars hello jack bro you i'm a 27 year old christian and my

03:57:32.640 life three three chats are coming in right now beautiful and interesting and i'd like to get

03:57:37.680 to know you sometime i'm not much of a social media person so feel free to text me if that's the

03:57:45.120 number okay thank you go watch it head him up compliments thank you very much you should head

03:57:50.160 him up see if he's legit that might be right there raven dt donated 100 in judaism there's a

03:58:00.080 marriage contract called a ketah bar it requires a groom to provide for his bride on their wedding day

03:58:06.720 intended to protect the woman primarily by establishing the man's financial obligations

03:58:12.240 to her in case of divorce or his death all right raven dt thank you thank you interesting

03:58:17.440 eliminate no fault divorce oh this one's coming we got one coming in from nasha nabu that's coming in

03:58:23.760 here nashu nabu donated 99 thank you guys appreciate it eliminate no fault divorce if the man cheats

03:58:32.160 she can divorce and get alimony if she cheats and he's the breadwinner he can divorce her and she loses

03:58:37.760 any chance of alimony if he beats her she can divorce and get alimony i agree with that look i think from

03:58:45.200 a guy's perspective when it comes to marriage and i don't want to linger on it too long because i do

03:58:48.400 have a lot of notes i got to get through women overwhelmingly initiate breakups initiate divorce

03:58:53.680 so my view is you never sign a contract with someone who is rewarded for breaking it i think no

03:58:58.720 sane informed man ought to sign that contract the problem the problem with sort of these like

03:59:04.880 views on marriage is they feel to the state and i already i think i already said this the state presides

03:59:11.520 over the marriage not the biblical values or your religion so when the woman is unhappy she's

03:59:17.200 going to go to the state not god and i think that's primarily where i have an issue um i want

03:59:22.960 to add something really quick though really quick just because i really got it it'll be super quick

03:59:26.320 before no no fault divorce if you wanted to get a divorce in the united states this was like early

03:59:31.120 1900s if a woman or a man wanted to divorce their spouse they had to build a case for why it was

03:59:37.520 justifiable and then provide evidence for that in court that you couldn't just divorce somebody like

03:59:43.040 that like i wish we still had that kind of society okay all right um let's see why don't we uh let's

03:59:49.840 pull up the two more videos from her nick we'll just do them right after the other go ahead oh also

03:59:54.800 before we before we play it i'm going to do a pause on the tts i i know we say instant but i just

04:00:01.200 want to get through this next section go ahead first of all i think that being single is not an

04:00:07.680 insult just because you're single doesn't mean that you're not desirable but i don't want just a

04:00:13.280 boyfriend i want to weed out all of the men who don't understand what feminine energy can do for

04:00:21.280 their life all of these men who are saying what do you bring to the table haven't experienced goddess

04:00:27.520 queen energy a king will know that a woman in her true femininity adds so much more value to a man

04:00:36.960 than any amount of money ever could next one i like her videos lead me when i'm in the mood

04:00:46.320 to be led nick f11 i want leadership but don't just like scroll me around you know like lead me

04:00:55.440 lead me when i'm in the mood to be led i want want leadership but don't

04:01:05.440 is that kind of like facetious or pretty accurate would you say um i mean the caption was you're

04:01:11.440 transitioning into like your feminine era your soft girl era so you're like lead me so it's like

04:01:16.400 it's a joke yeah okay it's a joke it's that clip of ryan from the office it is yeah which is also

04:01:21.360 facetious it's the office got it okay but there's a there's a kernel of truth in the sentiment yeah the

04:01:27.280 kernel of truth is that it's a struggle to go from being hyper independent into being into your

04:01:31.920 feminine energy that's the truth for me that's understandable i think a lot of women struggle with

04:01:37.520 that it's hard to let go because you also are like i've seen all these boys who aren't in their

04:01:42.080 masculine and then once you like step into your feminine then you attract different kind of energy

04:01:47.200 but the any kind of transition is always hard so yeah i think a lot of women struggle with that because

04:01:52.480 of uh feminism the residue of feminism and how it conditions women a lot of women have like just

04:01:59.840 tremendous resistance to the idea of like submitting to a man submitting to a man's leadership

04:02:04.880 really at the end of the day goddess queen energy i mean even the word queen it implies that you have

04:02:11.360 a king and at the end of the day the king's say is the king's say you know what i mean now that

04:02:15.920 doesn't mean that he wouldn't consult his queen but uh i wish you success in making that transition

04:02:21.520 into your soft girl era because the kind of men that you want like women that are easily led so to

04:02:28.800 speak you know i have been successful and that's good yeah it's been good um in the second video we

04:02:38.320 reacted to um you that's the one where you were talking about basically essentially the patriarchy

04:02:45.200 that i think men have it easier just women are disadvantaged it's a man's world uh in the description

04:02:51.840 of that you say that equality is not sameness it's fairness the sexy and fair thing to do is for the

04:02:57.520 man to pick up the tab ladies do not settle for less we teach people how to treat us

04:03:05.520 that is accurate right that's what you said um and so i if i recall did you say that you consider

04:03:11.520 yourself a feminist yes i do so i guess my question to you is how do you reconcile being a feminist

04:03:19.120 believing in gender equality doing away with gender roles i i'm not sure if you believe in those but

04:03:25.520 but so how do you reconcile being a feminist but also demanding that men pay for first dates

04:03:31.840 um i think that you don't have to be on one side like one extreme side or the other extreme side

04:03:39.360 just like in politics like you don't have to be like ultra liberal or ultra conservative like you can

04:03:44.880 kind of figure out the values that you believe in and believe in those values and i wasn't i didn't

04:03:52.720 really i was like more in my like masculine more hyper uh independent era and then as i became

04:03:59.040 someone who like the things that i wanted in life shifted i'm like oh i actually do want a lifelong

04:04:04.400 partner and how do i get the kind i just through contemplation not through any tradition i'm not

04:04:10.640 looking to tradition i'm not looking to now i'm just thinking about what do i want what kind of person

04:04:15.760 do i want to attract and through that is where i got my values of like oh i'm like creating this space

04:04:24.400 where men don't get to like feel like they're the the hero like feel like they're leading and i'm like

04:04:30.880 i do want a man like that so that means i need to take a step back it has nothing to do with tradition or

04:04:36.960 feminism like i'm just like that's the that's what i want to do i don't care if it's tradition if it's a

04:04:42.000 traditional value i don't care if it's a modern value that's just what i want so i'm going to act

04:04:47.360 accordingly so but do you believe in gender equality um i believe in fairness i'm not

04:04:55.680 totally following yeah i mean i think why would it be unfair to go 50 50. um it's technically you're

04:05:05.760 doing the same thing but in the relationship that i want i don't want to do that so you don't want

04:05:13.120 fairness in your relationship it's okay to say that that you don't want fairness i don't want sameness

04:05:17.440 i want but that's the same thing that they mean honestly the same thing you don't want to pay 50 50

04:05:22.480 which is valid i i don't want to either but that's yeah they're i think it's the same thing because if

04:05:28.400 you were to be equal then you would have to pay 50 50 and i'm just yeah i think we're arguing

04:05:34.800 semantics well sure so the words mean the same thing but i mean do you do you believe in gender

04:05:40.800 equality um yes do you believe i don't believe that the gender i don't believe that men and women

04:05:47.120 should do the same things but i think sure uh well okay but i think that women should have the

04:05:54.640 opportunity to do what they want to do should men if they want to go if they want to go 50 50 then

04:06:02.240 go 50 50 i don't give a fuck what you do like that's just what i want well i guess just as a

04:06:06.960 feminist i like i i guess where i'm struggling is why do you support a rather patriarchal traditional

04:06:14.400 belief of men paying for a woman's time i don't believe that it is a patriarchal belief i think it's

04:06:20.720 based off energy based off energy the patriarchy i think says a woman has to do this she should do

04:06:26.880 this i'm saying you can i would disagree as the patriarchy's spokesperson on the whatever podcast

04:06:33.920 the patriarchy says it's good for a woman to do this and a woman ought to do this it's not a woman

04:06:40.800 has to do this it's it's good for a woman to do this it's in alignment with her nature and a man's

04:06:46.080 nature yeah therefore she ought to yeah i mean i think that official statement from the patriarchy

04:06:52.320 oh okay so i don't know i just feel like part of feminism is challenging gender roles but let me

04:06:59.280 ask you a couple questions so um will you take your husband's last name um i'm not sure what she

04:07:07.840 wants a guy to you want him to feel like a hero in your life and you won't even take you're not proud

04:07:12.800 to take your man's last name i haven't met a man who is worthy of but if you did he would be your

04:07:18.400 husband this would be your the guy who you will marry i don't know it depends what his last name

04:07:23.440 is if it's like really holy smokes why would a high value man want to woman marry a woman who won't

04:07:29.280 even take his last name i why would any man want that i don't that's like the most humiliating thing

04:07:34.080 in the world i didn't realize that it was so humiliating i mean i would i'm definitely open to

04:07:38.400 having a discussion with the man that i fall in love with i don't think that like me and you would

04:07:42.480 be a match i don't think that you and i would be a match and that's totally fine if i meet a man who

04:07:46.640 is my match and he like is like this is so important to me like this is what it would mean to me i'm open

04:07:51.920 to having that discussion with him but you said if his name is kind of weird that that seems like a

04:07:58.560 very arbitrary reason to not want to take it if i knew if i knew that a woman was not interested in

04:08:07.040 taking a man's last name i would not even offer to take her on a date in the first place well luckily

04:08:12.640 you're not offering to take me on a date so that's correct which is just generally speaking i don't

04:08:17.360 want to find a man like you so i think we're good generally speaking though like like you have to

04:08:22.000 understand it's i understand that men like you want that yeah i mean any traditional guy who's like

04:08:29.680 filling even a remotely patriarchal role that you hold on please let me finish any traditional guy who's

04:08:35.440 filling even a remotely patriarchal role that you're describing like is going to want a woman

04:08:41.360 who would be proud to take his last name that's like a given i just i don't see like you want the

04:08:47.520 guy to pay for the first date you don't want a 50 50 relationship but like the most basic thing

04:08:53.040 there yeah the most it seems like look if if as a guy you want to like do the 50 50 thing with your

04:08:59.360 girl then maybe in that scenario you should go in expecting hey she might want to hyphenate she might

04:09:05.280 not want to take my last name but you have in the same way that i was talking in the same way that

04:09:10.000 i was talking earlier about well what does the guy that you want what does he want and the guy

04:09:15.760 that you want who wants to be that masculine guy who wants to be a leader who wants to pay for the

04:09:20.480 first dates not do 50 50 i would assume that he's going to also be the type of guy that wants you to

04:09:26.240 take his last name i don't think some of these things are right you know what i would do if i was on

04:09:31.280 a date with a girl and she told me she wouldn't date you no no i know but you know that's that's

04:09:35.680 she's made that i'm sorry she finds me horrible but like i never said that if i said we're not a

04:09:40.640 match if that's fair that's fair that's fair if i was on a date with a girl you would i hope i hope

04:09:48.320 you'll appreciate this if i was on a date a first date with a girl and halfway through the date she

04:09:53.920 told me you know what i'm not interested in taking a man's last name when i marry him no

04:10:01.040 what i would say is oh i'm sorry i didn't realize we were going on this date as friends

04:10:09.920 okay thanks thanks for talking to be to be fair like i am transitioning into this

04:10:18.160 maybe as i wait you're transitioning i'm transitioning into being more in my feminine

04:10:24.960 era and i'm exploring this apart i'm exploring this apart from tradition i'm not thinking about

04:10:31.120 any values that anyone's taught me i'm not thinking about societal standards i'm thinking

04:10:35.200 about what do i want what kind of energy do i want to invite in my life let me finish okay and

04:10:42.160 so as i continue to explore this as i've gotten more clear with my values i've had a shift i'm

04:10:47.680 like oh maybe i need to do this differently potentially maybe that is something that i

04:10:51.440 will have a change of mind i am in a transition i understand i don't understand the male perspective

04:10:56.320 when it comes to that and i've never been even close to like wanting to take a man's last name so i'm

04:11:02.480 i'm open to having my mind shift about this um and i don't think that you guys should like shame

04:11:07.760 me for being in a space where i'm figuring it out but you shame you seem so solid on what the

04:11:13.280 expectations of men are but you don't seem to be very privy to that what that type of man wants

04:11:21.520 and you also shame men she's still figuring it out but she understands no she's the kind of man

04:11:26.240 she's looking for she's she's figured out what she wants but she hasn't figured out what the man that

04:11:31.920 she wants wants yes but but if you want that kind of treatment then you got to come correct

04:11:38.160 on your end too let me tell you what i want what do you want you know what i want chase tell us what

04:11:42.400 you want i'll tell i'll tell you what i want i want i hope that you find the kind of guy that your

04:11:47.760 heart desires and that he's the kind of man where you look at him and you're like you know what i want

04:11:53.280 like you i want to take your last name you are my freaking hero i hope you found that guy me too

04:11:58.800 if i find that man and that's what he really wants then great nick if you can pull up that video

04:12:03.680 there's a video where you reacted to recently and then in the past it's this progressive woman who's

04:12:08.560 in a car and she's saying i can't do you know what the video i'm talking about nick progressive woman

04:12:15.360 wants i hope by the time you find him too that you're ready for him i will be ready when i find him

04:12:22.880 that's the only reason here i got another question um will your husband be the head of the household

04:12:29.920 what does that mean he is the leader and the authority in the home like he gets final say on

04:12:35.840 everything whatever everything doesn't mean he's a tyrant but if there's an important decision

04:12:40.480 that needs to be made his final word is the word that goes um his final word so if we disagreed on

04:12:48.480 something so we're talking about something homeschooling let's say you're having a debate

04:12:52.720 right okay so let's homeschool our children i'm like i don't want to have the time because i

04:12:56.960 have to do these performances i'm doing my music whatever i don't have time to homeschool or

04:13:01.520 whatever sure and what i say would i like just let him say no this is why and then be like okay

04:13:08.320 sure is that what you're asking if i feel like that's a bad example because you guys you would

04:13:13.280 probably never end up with a guy who wanted to do homeschooling if you want to perform while you're

04:13:17.120 in marriage and having a family let's say um moving somewhere let's say you want to move to

04:13:26.080 montana but he feels it's really important to move to utah instead just hypothetically speaking and he's

04:13:31.280 like hey babe i have x y and z reasons this is really important and you're like no i want to move

04:13:36.320 to montana instead and he's like babe i need you on board we need to move to utah yeah would you

04:13:42.160 acquiesce would you submit to that i think this kind of a situation is difficult to say what i

04:13:46.800 would do because it's extremely hypothetical but i will say in a hypothetical situation say

04:13:52.880 i meet the man i'm like oh my god give me your last name we have kids whatever our values and our

04:13:59.280 vision are aligned i don't feel like i have to give up a part of myself because we're together like

04:14:04.960 i'm supporting his vision and he is supporting mine because they're the same vision we have the same

04:14:09.440 vision for our family yeah yeah i was just going to say i think someone has to lead though right

04:14:14.720 like there's it's usually one personally that's why when you file taxes there's a head of the household

04:14:19.600 so there's never just a part like even though it's a partnership one person takes the lead and it's

04:14:24.480 generally the man which is why he's asking if being the head of the household and then the homeschooling

04:14:29.280 kids was a bad example because like like he said you would to be a traditional feminine woman like

04:14:35.920 working a career while raising children at the same time wouldn't okay here i'll just

04:14:39.360 fucking say it our child has come to us confused because they've been schooled publicly i'm gonna

04:14:45.200 reduce i'm we're gonna take out the homeschooling component of it our child comes home confused we

04:14:51.520 have a biological son he's thinking oh them might be a woman i'm here saying no we're not gonna put

04:15:01.120 our son on fucking puberty blockers we're not going to put him on drugs we're not going to do

04:15:06.800 any of that stuff if as he at 18 if he just won't listen to us and he can make those decisions once

04:15:15.120 he's reached a majority of age if he wants to do that he can but we are not i'm not going to allow

04:15:22.960 my child to do this would you i feel like this isn't great this isn't a great example either no i mean

04:15:28.400 i suppose no it's it's important though because this happens in households it does men need to

04:15:33.360 think about this like this is why this is why i will i don't know if it's a good example but like

04:15:38.400 would you defer would you defer to me saying no we're not gonna do this or or or even uh uh

04:15:48.400 to simplify it even further you want your kid to go to public school your husband's like no we need

04:15:53.600 to spend more money to go to private school but you're like i'd rather save that money so we can buy

04:15:57.440 like whatever you know you have a different financial goal he's like no like he needs to

04:16:02.240 not go to public school because they're indoctrinating children would you agree to that like if he's paying

04:16:06.560 for the private school sure okay all right here let me move on there's one there's one last aspect of

04:16:13.600 this that i think is like worth calling attention to it's like you're you're saying like no i don't

04:16:17.600 want patriarchy but also at the same time you're saying i want to fully step into my queen goddess

04:16:22.400 energy but being a queen to the kind of man that you're describing implies a king and that is a

04:16:28.240 patriarchal structure and if you want a king a man who's truly embodying king energy if you want him

04:16:34.640 to step into that role he's going to expect that you will submit as his queen now that doesn't mean

04:16:38.880 that he'll boss you around as his slave but like a queen is subordinate to the king yeah i mean i think

04:16:44.560 that the word submit has a lot of uh baggage with it for feminists of men like because i've been

04:16:53.280 in households and i know many men who abuse their authority and say submit to me they don't they

04:16:58.800 don't submission is given not taken but uh right so that's just abuse that's not yeah no and i think

04:17:06.400 a lot of people say the word submit but what they mean is abuse so that's what i'm against like i don't

04:17:11.840 know about no i think we're pretty confident in what we mean here no i'm not saying you guys i'm

04:17:15.840 just saying in general i do need to move this on a little bit but let me get these since grid one

04:17:20.960 just sent to let me get these to come through here hold on one second one grid one motorsports donated

04:17:28.400 one hundred dollars one of the worst crimes committed against society is the deletion of obey from love

04:17:35.040 honor and obey in marriage vows without a leader all ships run aground all missions failed

04:17:41.840 yep while you should walk with christ you do not need religion to be a good wife

04:17:46.640 all right thank you grid one appreciate it great comment got another one coming in from grid one

04:17:51.280 motorsports here in just oh hold on wait here i'll i guess this is i'll re-trigger when she's back

04:17:58.720 that's annoying but um here i'll just read let me see i had a couple notes here and she's gone

04:18:05.120 some of this applies to her i don't know but um let's see it's such a good point though like the

04:18:12.160 idea of having a ship without a captain or having a ship with two captains it's not gonna work it's

04:18:17.200 not gonna work it's not gonna work can't work cannot work let's see captain first mate uh okay we got

04:18:24.080 through oh we have one oh okay curtis underscully undonated one hundred dollars since we are on

04:18:30.960 hypotheticals brian if you went to prison for life no chance of parole and the governor said he may

04:18:37.280 pardon you if you participate in a naked human pyramid would you do it kiko is the verifier

04:18:45.040 what uh that's such a funny for life would you do it bro prison for life and i get a pardon

04:18:55.440 i'm yes modest yes i am donated 101 dollars you know chase just when i think i couldn't possibly

04:19:03.920 be any dumber you go and do something like this and totally redeem yourself imagine thinking

04:19:10.080 submission is abuse wtf ladies oh it's uh it's a dumb and dumber reference appreciate that bro

04:19:17.040 modest jacama much appreciated thank you man thank you i respect the reference dude

04:19:26.560 grid one motorsports donated 99 dollars copy kiko please do not marry a man who would accept you the

04:19:33.680 way you are now you will ruin each other's lives wait for the man that you want to change for that you

04:19:39.920 want to be a wife for feminism has failed you the patriarchy is here to help it's here to help

04:19:47.600 chase is the representative he's the spokesperson for the patriarchy yep hey guys i'm going just so i

04:19:52.240 can get through i'm gonna uh mute the tts we'll get to it uh later on in the show so uh yeah uh oh yeah

04:20:02.080 twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drops the follow drops the prime sub twitch.tv

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04:20:17.360 prime robin think for the tier one why kick a moo cow think for the prime appreciate it man

04:20:23.200 um let's see here we had one last thing on this uh i would say that

04:20:30.320 i don't know if you want your man to be a gentleman chivalrous traditional but if you're

04:20:36.400 you're not willing to give back traditional values to him taking his last name it doesn't sound like

04:20:41.920 fair trade-off well that's an interesting super chat speak yo ab check thing for the gifted 20

04:20:47.280 memberships is it muted nick is it is it muted the audio

04:20:51.440 oh okay um so it's just like uh let me see here i you just you cannot recoil at the very idea of

04:21:02.560 gender roles but then expect men to pay because men paying is a gender role so you can't just discard

04:21:10.640 all the gender roles that have to do with you but then expect the man to still abide by every gender

04:21:14.240 role that applies to him um so i don't know i'll i'll end it at this i think that women want equality

04:21:23.760 societally and they want tradition romantically in so far as that tradition stands to benefit them

04:21:31.120 where said tradition does not stand to benefit women they will not adhere to that specific tradition

04:21:37.760 they will desire and pressure men to adhere to their traditional gender roles so they want to have

04:21:43.600 their cake and eat it too basically that not paying thing or the paying thing really gets to you

04:21:48.880 huh because i can tell that that one really like it ruffles your feathers yeah just a little bit

04:21:59.280 pull your mic close to the edge of the table please no it doesn't it doesn't i don't how does

04:22:04.480 it ruffle my feathers i can just tell because does it yeah you go back to like that like that's like

04:22:09.360 the base like argument well i mean that's i've noticed the primary video that we're reacting to

04:22:14.080 today but i could just tell it doesn't ruffle brian brian has a good point though in that a lot of women

04:22:19.680 almost all women want traditional behavior for men but they're not willing to live up to traditional

04:22:23.920 behavior on their own side yeah you guys want i think there's a lot of men that want good women but

04:22:28.720 also won't be good like and i feel like a lot of our experiences in modern day dating unfortunately

04:22:34.480 aren't the best that's why only one of us is in a relationship at the moment and it's because

04:22:39.520 we're dealing with men who claim they want these values that you're saying but end up doing not

04:22:44.320 great stuff why are you pointing at me no him because he says a lot of things that are good right like

04:22:48.640 that you want a woman and you're a certain man and all this stuff but unfortunately there's a lot

04:22:53.360 of men who say this that aren't doing that look and they're lying let me tell you something

04:22:58.480 ava ava let me let me tell you something i know a lot of guys okay and the bad boys that you guys

04:23:04.720 are describing is a small minority the reality is that there are a lot of good guys out there that

04:23:11.680 simply just want to find a good woman and treat her right but most women quite frankly suck at picking

04:23:18.960 dudes they pick the bad boys that don't give a damn about them because those bad boys spark their

04:23:24.880 feelings they they get you ladies feeling some type of thing and you're like oh i like how he

04:23:30.240 makes me feel and then you guys get into a relationship and he cheats on you blah blah blah

04:23:33.840 blah when all of the red flags are present at the beginning but not always though and that's the

04:23:38.640 thing it's not always the case and vice versa like i hate making generalizations about anything i do agree

04:23:44.000 to a capacity for some for sure there's a lot of good guys out there and i agree i do most men are

04:23:49.840 invisible and i most women i will you probably you probably have a 500 men in your phone contacts

04:23:57.280 right now that would treat you so right if you would give them the time of day and give them a date

04:24:04.800 actually not necessarily and i really do believe that with a very developed like you learn from your

04:24:12.080 experiences right i at least hope so i feel like as you get more confident and secure with yourself you

04:24:17.840 know what you want more so and so you seek after that so you won't give these guys the time of day

04:24:22.400 or you'll be able to pick up the red flags quicker right but it's funny how now you see the red flag so

04:24:30.080 often that it's just like wild how many people are you know trying to lie or manipulate to get you in

04:24:35.120 bed or do all this stuff or say all this stuff so it's just it is a little bit more saturated at first

04:24:43.040 that you have to weed through a lot of people claiming they want these values that you're saying but they

04:24:47.360 genuinely don't mean it and that's why like you told her don't sleep with them right away wait a

04:24:52.480 while you know because their true character will show people can have a good personality perfect

04:24:57.200 filter like it's women would be able to filter if women waited a few months before having sex with

04:25:03.360 guys they would filter 99 of the bad dudes and the thing is though but at the same time yes but also

04:25:09.920 no because you can wait you can be friends with a guy for over a year and then decide to take it

04:25:14.880 there and they end up doing the same thing so i think it's very situational it's very much about

04:25:19.200 the person it's what their values are how they've been raised how they've decided you know like sure

04:25:23.840 but in the context in the context of you know what we've been discussing which is dudes cheating

04:25:29.120 being dishonest lying all that kind of stuff you're gonna figure out real quick if a guy just wants sex

04:25:34.560 and if he can't keep it in his pants if you tell him no we're not gonna have sex and then he just

04:25:38.560 immediately dips but a lot from my experience that's not what happens like that doesn't happen

04:25:44.400 so you've had guys cheat on you that you've waited to have sex with you've had guys pursue you for long

04:25:50.480 periods of time and you refuse to have sex with them and then after you started then they cheated on

04:25:55.280 you how many times is this happening a lot a lot yeah i think you guys honestly just suck at picking

04:26:01.840 i don't think so i think it's just like a lot of people are manipulators yeah no i don't really know

04:26:08.400 a single woman who hasn't dealt with some sort of a horrible dating relation same with women if women

04:26:15.040 no i'm not saying people don't deal with horrible dating situations but like yeah if you date enough

04:26:19.680 guys eventually there's going to be a guy that cheats on you but the my point is that like y'all

04:26:24.480 gotta improve your pool of dudes that you're picking from i think this is why i only talk to christian

04:26:28.720 chicks wait one of you and one of you i don't think we got here is it you that mentioned

04:26:34.000 butterflies you had butterflies for somebody or was it you i don't know but related to women

04:26:41.120 picking not the best guys i think a lot of women are looking for the click the vibe the butterflies

04:26:48.080 the spark the chemistry except the tingles whatever magic fireworks whatever bullshit term

04:26:54.000 you want to use um and i think the issue is is that in addition to looking for like

04:27:01.040 because of women's hypergamous nature you're looking most women are all chasing after the

04:27:05.920 top tier of men those men have all the options so yes they're more likely to cheat but you're you're

04:27:11.520 looking let me ask the girls a question if you don't feel the quit the click with a guy pretty

04:27:18.400 quickly do you just not give that guy a chance it's a good question uh like i often hear women

04:27:27.040 say the vibe has to be there there has to be a click there has to be spark chemistry electricity

04:27:32.240 because i've heard women say and maybe you guys can tell me if you agree with this you've met a guy

04:27:38.320 who on paper he's fantastic good looking good job treats you well good personality but he's just

04:27:46.320 missing something you just didn't feel this click or spark or connection it's like sexual tension

04:27:52.880 i've still given that person a chance okay a lot of women don't give that guy a chance

04:27:59.280 and that's actually probably the good guy you should go for it goes back to you you say you

04:28:04.000 pick terrible men you like you're attracted to bad boys and whatnot unfortunately right so

04:28:10.480 that which exists in you i think exists in a lot of women you want this sort of excitement yes they

04:28:19.600 do you want this excitement from a guy yes and a good guy can give you that but i think it's a little

04:28:25.040 bit harder but the guys who are bad or toxic they can definitely give you that it's like a dopamine rush

04:28:33.040 actually you're getting like an addictive drug response every time they do something crazy or make

04:28:37.600 you wait for a response or something like that it's like feeding your your brain every time with

04:28:42.400 yeah and with chemicals this no chemistry he's boring i think that actually translates to he

04:28:49.520 doesn't trigger your anxious trauma response which you confuse for love yeah i think he's right you

04:28:54.480 should give those guys a chance because you haven't yeah but honestly i mean it's very situational

04:28:59.680 because like you can give them a chance but then you realize their characters maybe not who you once

04:29:04.080 thought of being good because also i think you're going off a very stereotypical bad boy like that's

04:29:08.640 like so cliche like they're guys and triggers and toxicity comes in many forms sure and many behaviors

04:29:16.640 and so you know what i think it is sorry if you want to finish and so i just feel like that's a very

04:29:23.360 generalized statement because like yeah if you don't feel the spark right away like i

04:29:29.600 speaking from personal experience i think that's a little immature i think it's nice to get to know

04:29:33.200 somebody and there might not be a spark right away and all this stuff but in my experience that has

04:29:38.320 also not led to a genuinely truthful person even if it's been waiting a year or waiting months to be

04:29:47.120 with them or whatever so it's like there are just some people who are like that you know and that just

04:29:53.280 kind of is what it is this is what i think it is i'm about to mansplain as the representative of the

04:29:59.840 patriarchy women are just you guys are emotional creatures you know you guys feel things very

04:30:04.720 intensely generally speaking when a woman meets a guy who sparks her emotions real strong it's

04:30:10.720 like you said it's like it's like a drug it's like whoo like whoa you know if that's humor if that's

04:30:16.320 confidence maybe a guy drops like you know he has like good eye contact with you says the right

04:30:22.320 thing when you guys are meeting you know shoots those butterflies through your system women feel that

04:30:26.720 super intensely it's intoxicating for a woman to experience that i think given the option between

04:30:32.000 that a guy who can like spark all those emotions versus a guy who's kind of like a bit more boring

04:30:37.760 nine times out of ten women pursue that emotional rush i think that's what drives a lot of this behavior

04:30:43.440 you know one last thing with pearl here you said some men are emotionally attracted to other men

04:30:49.520 huh but sexually attracted to women and tall men are overrated

04:30:53.760 okay yeah those are my hot takes some men are emotionally attracted to other men

04:31:00.720 do you detect that right here is there do you detect it i didn't say it

04:31:08.960 uh but sexually attracted okay and tall men are overrated you know i don't often hear that that's

04:31:13.680 an interesting i think that tall men are overrated you like short you like a short king um it's not that

04:31:19.040 i prefer a short king or a tall person but i think you just don't care i think that women overvalue

04:31:24.560 height with men it's like they become blind to other stuff that's all that's super valid five six

04:31:29.520 okay that's super valid yeah i mean to be fair like am i sexually attracted to someone who's very very

04:31:35.040 short probably not but i think this whole like six three and above or i won't even talk to him is

04:31:39.680 bullshit based okay all right there we go common ground wait what's what are the what are the heights

04:31:46.800 of the last three men that you've been with um five eight okay six six oh five ten okay all right

04:31:56.640 there's like a cross section there i don't discriminate it's fairness there you go there you go all right

04:32:02.080 six six was honestly too tall low-key yeah are you gonna say something i do have to head out actually i was

04:32:08.320 gonna say traffic but she's late and she has to leave early i wasn't late the other time it's all

04:32:15.360 good it's all good um i enjoyed the panel a lot it's very nice ave marie uh you said that you were

04:32:23.040 tricked oh sorry i'm yeah you said that you were tricked into a double date once i went on a date with

04:32:28.720 a guy that told me he asks zero questions i went on a date with a guy who showed up late and then instead

04:32:36.720 of going to dinner we went to frozen yogurt and he kept going behind me in line to get topping

04:32:41.840 inevitable leaving me to pay yeah that was insane

04:32:45.200 sickening bro that super chat that was there was so good i need to hear the story

04:32:50.320 smooth super chat so good i'll get it um let's see you said that being truly confident and full of

04:32:58.160 self-love can leave you alone for a long time how so because like i don't accept

04:33:03.360 what i used to accept anymore right like i have learned my lessons i've learned about the red flags

04:33:10.880 and so i say no a lot now there's a lot of guys who ask me on dates that in the past i probably would

04:33:16.880 have gone out with but i see the red flags and i'm like no like you've already said something weird

04:33:22.720 you've already said something that i know what you're about and so you're alone for a very long

04:33:27.040 time and especially someone who's pursuing a career very intensely i can only focus on that and if

04:33:32.480 you're not adding something truly positive and supporting and you're not really truthful to

04:33:37.760 yourself i feel like a lot of the time in the past now looking i was a mirror for many men and had

04:33:44.720 them face a lot of the hypocrisies that they would tell me but then not do and i just feel like yeah i'm

04:33:52.320 very confident myself i know what i bring to the table i know i'm genuine and true i'm very much about

04:33:57.760 my word and i'm not going to be with a man who's not and i can kind of subs i can pick up the red

04:34:02.800 flags now like i've learned lessons so yeah have i not been going on as many dates as i used to yeah

04:34:09.680 because i don't even want to do that i'm looking for someone who's genuine i want to have real

04:34:14.240 conversation i really want to get to know you and i really want you to care about getting to know me and

04:34:18.960 know that it's not some agenda or kind of fake even though in the past i don't think it was either

04:34:24.880 because i do think these men did care for me but it wasn't in the way i needed and so yeah i feel

04:34:31.280 like i'm just saying no more so that means i'm alone but i'm not lonely if that makes sense that's

04:34:37.040 good i think i think women need to get good at saying no when it comes to guys yeah and it's just

04:34:41.760 about knowing your worth and like truly being confident taking time to be alone and to figure

04:34:46.640 out what you want in life and family and your partner and your friends i even know to friends too

04:34:54.560 you know but definitely into relationships and dating i'll tell you one of my uh opinions on

04:35:01.280 women i think being able to say no is a trait of a high value woman yeah yeah 100 based i let's see

04:35:10.400 actually let me do some chats and then i'll continue on with my notes here we have jesus

04:35:15.360 saved me hey thank you man i know someone who had an affair and got the woman pregnant and still

04:35:20.080 did not file for for divorce his wife had to file for divorce so that is one reason why women

04:35:25.360 initiating divorce is high because men will not leave even in a situation like that word thank you

04:35:33.200 jesus um damn this is one reason why women is high because men will not leave someone who had an

04:35:39.840 affair got the woman pregnant and still did not follow okay well it's like my biological father wow

04:35:45.920 grid one motorsports dudes will wait in the friend zone forever to get a chance to bump

04:35:50.880 uglies but the guy you're dating will not wait for sex girls listen to much too much to what makes

04:35:56.800 the pussy quiver oh excuse me quivering pussy that was cringe what even is that

04:36:06.640 i mean it's crudely put but he's right yeah no i mean i think it was you that was saying yeah there's

04:36:12.320 guys even if you wait a long time i think if the context of the interaction or relationship is

04:36:18.640 romantic from the jump not the case but if he's just like quietly waiting in the friend zone for his

04:36:23.200 chance then certainly yeah he might just yeah women women want the romance they want the feels they want

04:36:29.360 a guy who makes them feel something so we have travalo smooth redhead is belong beyond delulu

04:36:35.680 uh if you had multiple situations actually chase are could you read this yeah actually ava how about

04:36:43.920 you read it red i love how that they're all referencing me by my hair but redhead is beyond

04:36:49.920 delulu if you have had multiple situations where you pick trash men then you have trash intuition even

04:36:54.320 though intuition is bs this is why it's important to have your father or brother uncle etc to vet men

04:36:58.800 blah blah blah to prevent this bad cycle um first of all fantastic comment wait why are you laughing

04:37:04.320 do you do you think it's funny or like you disagree well first of all i never said i picked these men

04:37:11.280 like yes eventually i did but i can honestly say that the men i'm i have been referencing on this

04:37:17.280 have pursued and pursued and pursued me so intensely that i was like you know what fine we're gonna go on

04:37:23.440 a date and like whatever it wasn't in like a creepy scary way but they were very consistent and they

04:37:29.440 really said a lot and i saw also their characteristics at least for what they were pursuing they seemed

04:37:35.040 very at least mature and healthy and blah blah blah with all that shit going on obviously i didn't know

04:37:39.920 about the relationship stuff but my intuition is what led me to figuring out all the bad which led me to

04:37:46.160 end it granted i do admit there were red flags for some of them in the beginning that now like i'm saying

04:37:52.400 i have learned from now i'm saying no a lot to the things i wouldn't have before but just to clarify

04:37:59.840 thank you oh my gosh modest hikima donated 101 dollars high six six figure 29 software and body count

04:38:11.520 seven ava you really think i want some random chick that has been with 20 plus dudes please stop lying to

04:38:18.800 yourself is generic also props to jackie on the amazon job corporate chill by day badass by night

04:38:29.600 okay did you have a quick thing the uh trevello smooths comment he said this is why it's important

04:38:35.840 to have your father brother uncle etc to vet men for you to prevent this bad cycle so true

04:38:41.280 what if those guys are shit though like what if they're like what if they're not good

04:38:44.720 men hopefully you have a good man helping good men vet your people is good yes but your father

04:38:50.640 your brother those are not good men i mean it depends on the person i mean but if the point

04:38:55.520 is that you it's good to have yeah and getting you have stopped please let me finish my point it's

04:39:02.080 important to have men that care about you in your life who also know how men are like i've had female

04:39:07.440 friends throughout my life i i knew that they were with bad dudes and i could sniff how bad their dudes

04:39:12.720 were from a hundred miles away yeah it's very important to have guys like that around you in

04:39:16.640 your life that's true they can do that for you yeah also we need to leave at 9 45 yeah okay okay

04:39:22.000 well you're related to this chase you say women suck at picking dudes you're 100 right that's why

04:39:26.640 arranged marriages are standard in so many parts of the world i think this is somewhat related to

04:39:30.960 trevalo's thing the father needs to vet potentials for this reason ladies that was why that that's how

04:39:37.440 courtship has been historically a guy if a guy wanted to pursue a woman her father had to be

04:39:42.400 involved and he would vet the guy because women generally speaking cannot vet guys properly my

04:39:49.360 father would not have been a great person to vet for me though i'm sorry to hear that yeah that sucks

04:39:54.320 if all men were good at that give your kids give your kids that gift by finding a great man i will

04:39:59.680 all right we have stifler here ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten we're

04:40:02.800 gonna go around the table on this go ahead ten we're waiting on our own luck is that what yeah

04:40:08.960 yeah like objectively your looks looks looks looks looks uh i ten i hate this question how about zero

04:40:19.120 all right fine eight i don't know i hate that question why because it's so like

04:40:27.440 shallow and stupid and would you date a guy who would you date a guy who's shorter than you

04:40:32.240 absolutely no because shorter than me i'm five five would you date a guy who's shorter than you

04:40:36.960 yes stop the cap no you wouldn't you would not okay why are you so shallow i don't know

04:40:47.600 i would say probably seven and a half to eight um i'd say around seven eight um six to seven but i think

04:40:58.560 seven when i smile i freaking love you so much i love you uh chase what about you seven and a half

04:41:08.400 eight on a good day i give myself six six and a half on a good day i'm gonna say it y'all i'm not

04:41:15.040 gonna rate y'all but y'all overrated yourselves a lot that's not very nice why it's just live in reality

04:41:23.520 two tens right off the bat two tens off the bat perfect i'm not saying you guys are ugly but like

04:41:29.360 gets to me when every freaking time like half the panel do you think all women should be tens

04:41:34.160 consider themselves tens no you too since you're the tens do i think that all women should consider

04:41:40.720 themselves as tens looks wise looks wise looks wise um i think that how you perceive yourself is all

04:41:48.880 about your self-worth and like your looks follow from that like my looks have grown as my self-worth

04:41:54.400 has grown so i think it's all connected um your looks have grown like i feel like my looks have

04:41:58.720 improved as my self-worth has improved improve your feminine energy yes i yeah like do i have more to

04:42:06.160 go like yeah maybe i could be an 11 like who knows no that's not how this works you said 10 is maxed out

04:42:12.640 i think that every woman can get to a point where they perceive themselves as a 10 and it's a worthy

04:42:19.360 goal to do yeah how do you think how do you think the average man how do you think the average man

04:42:24.640 would rate you out of 10 um i'm i don't know i don't i don't know okay wait so but you think all

04:42:30.480 i think looks is very uh subjective but so do all should all women view themselves as tens in terms of

04:42:35.520 their looks physical appearance i think that every woman should work on working ourselves as a 10 i don't

04:42:40.480 think that from the beginning maybe i don't know maybe from the beginning they feel like for men

04:42:44.320 too for men too should for men too like should men perceive themselves as tens yeah i i don't know i

04:42:51.760 can't speak for men okay um men can do whatever they want well how would you have responded if brian

04:42:57.520 said that uh yeah i'm a 10 he was a 10. uh i i wouldn't yeah yeah yeah because you i want someone

04:43:04.480 who's like confident not gonna tear you down the confident thing and also real though but like at the

04:43:09.760 same time i think there's many factors that go into a 10 like they're no but it's just looks

04:43:14.560 purely physical attractiveness wouldn't the confident thing be like i acknowledge that i'm not

04:43:25.120 uh amongst the most physically attractive people in the world i'm a six i'm a seven i'm confident in

04:43:31.920 that i don't feel bad about my physical appearance but i also acknowledge that i'm not on par with the

04:43:38.080 most beautiful models in the entire world i'm not if you say you're a 10 that means that you view

04:43:44.560 your your own self-assessment of your physical attractiveness is that i am on par with the

04:43:50.800 most beautiful people in the world yeah okay it's not just i'm on par with the most beautiful people

04:43:57.760 in the world it's i am equal to the most beautiful people the same kind of something i don't know why

04:44:02.880 you want so badly for girls to bring their numbers down because why is that so like it's a it's a

04:44:09.280 question for you to say that we overrated us is so ridiculous how's how's that ridiculous you don't

04:44:14.320 even think of yourself as a 10 but yeah you're trying to tell us what we are yeah because i have

04:44:18.640 eyeballs and i think there's a difference ladies ladies the point that brian's making is if you took

04:44:26.240 a thousand men and you all lined up in front of a thousand men and then you connect you you collected

04:44:31.600 each of their ratings so to speak the point that brian's making is your ratings of yourselves would

04:44:36.640 probably differ from a thousand men's if you took the average of all of them a thousand men's ratings

04:44:41.280 yes i agree with that statement i'm not saying that i'm a 10 by the way i already answered this was

04:44:46.080 that was the question how do men perceive my looks or how do i know but it's like how do you

04:44:50.720 okay hold on when it comes to when it comes to this question let's say for example there is to some

04:44:58.000 degree objectivity when it comes to beauty so what i can't say i have a million dollars in my bank

04:45:05.280 account and if i have zero dollars in my bank account just because i think it or say it doesn't mean

04:45:10.560 that it's true there is objectivity to beauty there's also convention to beauty sure okay so

04:45:21.120 how are we like well okay so i have a question for you you have lip filler correct no you don't have

04:45:28.160 lip filler i got lip filler done two years ago okay so maybe there's some left over from it but it's

04:45:33.600 just the way that i do my oh okay you had lip filler previously yes i did yeah okay and so do you feel

04:45:39.600 that like if you were a 10 why the need for were you not a 10 back then i i think that i've grown

04:45:48.720 in confidence and in looks yeah since then okay yeah but i think if i perceive myself as a 10 then i

04:45:55.600 like push myself to get to those standards every day so i don't think it's helpful you know what at

04:46:00.320 the end of the day i don't really give a fuck what true is i give i give more of a fuck of what is

04:46:05.680 effective you don't give a fuck about what truth is i care more about what's going to be effective

04:46:10.560 for me than what i care about being right or whatever because right is the perception of what

04:46:14.880 like what is that even you know what i'm saying like according to reality objective reality according

04:46:19.680 to who to you to the thousands of men no objective reality isn't according to anybody i mean objective

04:46:25.200 reality is just objective reality too but how who decides what objective reality well so for

04:46:29.360 for example for example beauty is based on symmetry and the golden ratio okay right that's objective

04:46:36.400 reality that's not something like it's nobody's perception like for example okay so if that's the

04:46:40.880 question my answer is i don't give a fuck okay in the beginning of the podcast who rated us i heard

04:46:46.800 you call numbers out was that it was a chat okay yeah but i mean the reason why i guess to answer your

04:46:55.280 question why i think it's important that both men and women you guys got to go you can't stay

04:47:00.640 another like 15 20 minutes no maybe another five but okay we'll do another five we can do another five

04:47:06.560 fuck it look okay all right i got you got you got four minutes i got four minutes to to make

04:47:14.640 save the world save the world make your points while we're here dude so clock's ticking i think that

04:47:20.960 both men and women need to be operating in reality when it comes to their own self-assessment of their

04:47:28.160 attractiveness in the dating marketplace if you're no offense delusional when it comes to your own

04:47:33.840 physical attractiveness i'm not i'm not saying you guys are unattractive or ugly you're both attractive

04:47:38.800 women but however if you think you are 10 aka you are perfect you are on par with the most beautiful

04:47:45.920 women in the world that that is delusion and i think i'm an average looking dude i don't think

04:47:52.880 i'm anything special you were trying to say well how can you as a guy who's not a 10 claim that we're

04:47:57.440 not 10 first off you need not be in order to see something you need not be that thing which you don't

04:48:03.360 see in that person to be able to see it um i think it's very important that both men and women are

04:48:08.960 realistic about where they stand when it comes to their place in the dating marketplace if you don't

04:48:15.360 i think that's where women typically end up getting burned by dudes because if you think you're hot

04:48:21.280 shit you're gonna get like these guys you're gonna think you're you're deserving or entitled to a

04:48:27.520 certain caliber of guy and if you think you're a 10 surely then you must be deserving of a guy who's a

04:48:34.080 10 now you might hold this view that you hold for yourself to the way that you the 10 in your okay

04:48:43.200 brian let me let me let me land it for you i know i know what you're picking i know what you're putting

04:48:46.800 down i'm picking it up a lot of women think that they're tens a lot of women also end up sleeping

04:48:53.440 with dudes that are tens because those guys will sleep with them women it reaffirms this belief in

04:48:59.520 their minds oh i'm a 10 and then these women hit cold hard reality when they realize oh the kinds

04:49:05.760 of guys that i could sleep with are not the kinds of guys that i can lock down for marriage this

04:49:09.840 happens across society as a whole you shaking your head at that you don't think so that's not my

04:49:16.560 experience look it might not be your experience but it is for a lot of women a lot of women a lot of

04:49:20.800 women go evaluate their self-identity they should and a lot of women will be with guys that are very

04:49:26.240 high value who want to sleep are they high value or are they good just hold on both a lot of women

04:49:31.680 will be with a lot of women will sleep with guys that are quote unquote high value who want to sleep

04:49:35.920 with them but then they find the cold hard reality when they when it's time to settle down they realize

04:49:40.320 oh those guys that i liked that were willing to sleep with me in the past won't marry me and that's

04:49:45.440 a hard realization for a lot of women i think that's a good argument for saying maybe you shouldn't

04:49:49.760 think if that's if that's what's happening because of your belief that you're a 10 then you

04:49:53.600 shouldn't do that yes my experience of believing that i'm a 10 is like five years ago my i mean

04:50:00.240 there's a most women are insecure the most beautiful women in the world are insecure so to me the way

04:50:06.640 that i combated that insecurity was saying i'm hot i'm the baddest bitch in this room i'm a 10 and

04:50:12.400 every time i walk into a room i walk into a room with 10 energy as i walk into a room with 10 energy

04:50:17.280 it attracts different energy because it's not really just about your looks it's about the kind of person

04:50:22.160 that you are the energy energy that you bring your confidence and when you think oh i'm a 10

04:50:27.440 my looks are a 10 and then i start acting like it i start doing my hair differently i start doing my

04:50:32.160 makeup differently i start getting actually physically more beautiful and i know i will become even more

04:50:37.120 beautiful as i continue to think i'm a 10 i'm a bad so that's effective for me if it's ineffective

04:50:43.360 for me to think that i'm a 10 and i'm ending up in these weird situations then i should re re-evaluate

04:50:47.760 and look at reality but in my experience it's only benefited me and helped me become more and

04:50:52.320 more physically beautiful and better overall wait question for you on this cheers cheers to that so

04:50:57.280 you're you're you're saying that you will become more physically beautiful um i mean just given the

04:51:04.320 track record i think okay i have a question were you are you more physically attractive now at 31 than

04:51:10.080 you were at 21 yes will you be more physically attractive at 41 than you are now i um think

04:51:18.320 that my mindset should stay the same i think maybe for a 41 year old can i compare myself to someone

04:51:23.200 who's 25 no at 41 versus fades or whatever yeah at 31 well you said you're more physically attractive

04:51:30.400 now at 31 versus at when you were 21 yes yes and you'll be more do you think you'll be more

04:51:35.200 physically attractive in 10 years at 41 versus now at 31. um well i think as we age you know like

04:51:43.440 our physical beauty does decrease you know so when i'm 41 i mean i hope to be a hot 41 year old am i

04:51:50.880 going to be as like youthful and like whatever as i am now i don't know probably not to be honest but

04:51:57.680 i still think my internal like posturing should be i'm a 10 i'm a bad bitch you know this is one of

04:52:04.800 the few things you've said on this podcast that we can absolutely agree on on the last podcast on

04:52:09.280 the last last podcast i i did with brian i said that it's really important for women to cultivate

04:52:14.320 that inner beauty and i can tell that's something that you've worked on and it's something that

04:52:18.480 you're intentional about and i i salute you for that thank you you know there's there's especially

04:52:22.560 we live in a world where there's a lot of women out there that are filled with insecurity and

04:52:26.800 self-loathing i think those are just objectively speaking those aren't attractive traits yeah i don't

04:52:32.720 think delusional self-confidence is good but i think i think healthy self-confidence is very

04:52:37.840 attractive and uh you know i salute that it's it's a good trait to develop thank you and it does it as

04:52:44.720 you know i made this point on the last podcast as a woman cultivates that inner beauty and also

04:52:49.520 that inner femininity that does also make her more beautiful externally so i agree with you on that

04:52:55.520 yeah and just kind of i guess to land the plane on what i was saying before so if i had to distill

04:53:00.800 down one of the primary issues in dating that i see so women want the best man that they can get

04:53:07.680 women will confuse sexual attraction for relationship attraction so men will sleep with women who they

04:53:12.960 would never have a relationship with just solely based on the metric of looks so a woman can sleep

04:53:21.360 with a guy who's out of her league in term of in terms of looks status etc money um that guy's never

04:53:30.000 going to commit to her so if you start women can sleep up but you probably aren't going to like

04:53:37.760 marry up so if you think you're a 10 like i think it's important to be based in reality when it comes

04:53:45.120 to your own self-assessment of your physical appearance because if you think you're hot

04:53:49.200 shit and let's say you're not you're going to be chasing after dudes who will gladly sleep with you

04:53:54.880 who are really attractive guys who make a lot of money who have high status these men will never

04:53:59.760 give you the ring that's why you have women who are trapped in situationships with dudes who will

04:54:04.640 never give you commitment that's why i think it's very important to have a accurate self-assessment

04:54:09.520 of your own attractiveness your own physical attractiveness in the dating marketplace that way you

04:54:14.720 know here's the guy who i think i can realistically get a relationship from because men will gladly sleep with

04:54:22.640 you keep you on the the back burner just string you along sleep with you uh they'll never give you

04:54:28.480 commitment and that's why i think it's important that that both men and women are aware of where

04:54:33.120 they stand in the uh sexual marketplace the dating marketplace so your league is the men who will marry

04:54:39.920 you not the men who will sleep with you and as women typically i think women

04:54:44.560 you'll break a rule to sleep with a guy he has to be you'll break your rule like for sleeping with

04:54:53.040 a guy quick if he's really physically attractive whereas men it tends to be the reverse so men will

04:54:57.600 sleep with women of a let's say men will sleep with women that they would never be in a relationship with

04:55:06.880 they'll sleep with you but just based on your looks alone they would never be in a relationship with

04:55:11.040 you whereas i think it's typically the it's the reverse for women in order for you to sleep with

04:55:17.040 a guy he needs to be at least physically attractive enough for you to be in a relationship with him

04:55:23.200 so anyways i know you guys have to go so thank you very much for coming is that gang signs hi oh

04:55:30.880 dope oh body count nice meeting you guys wait really quick do you guys does body count matter

04:55:37.040 what do you mean do you think like do you object do you object to men caring about a woman's body count

04:55:46.800 our time is up

04:55:49.920 i think here i'm gonna do i'm gonna rearrange the seating here nice to meet you guys thank you guys

04:55:55.440 for coming drive safe so here i'm gonna just y'all are just gonna move down this way scuffed that one

04:56:02.400 just trying to before they left

04:56:08.240 i'm back in hey

04:56:13.200 nah just leave it on for now i mean maybe we'll do it we're

04:56:17.360 yeah no all the way down all the way down like 20 30 minutes i need to get through some of my notes

04:56:23.280 yeah you scoot down right here and then i'm gonna adjust the cameras um

04:56:27.600 damn i had so many i'm like so behind on notes i'm gonna read some chats guys i'm gonna read wait

04:56:35.200 uh hold on no you sorry you go that way can you guys just like good

04:56:43.040 yeah there and then can you go can you go over there i guess

04:56:47.280 okay guys i'm gonna do a couple chats travola oh wait

04:56:59.440 wait yo nick tell

04:57:05.440 all right let me get these chats here hold on guys

04:57:09.840 all right we got

04:57:10.560 uh if you rate yourself raven dt donated 100 if you rate yourself for 10 out of 10 in your

04:57:18.720 physical appearance it automatically makes you a zero hubris and vanity are unbecoming true

04:57:25.280 confidence is accepting that you are a six and working on your personality so you can compensate

04:57:30.800 appropriately raven dt well well put well put all right hold on we got some more coming in here one

04:57:38.720 sec guys i'm not gonna pause these anymore by the way guys so it'll just come to underscore 10s

04:57:46.160 underscore him underscore three donated 99 dollars i think her cute but girl one her fashion is really

04:57:53.840 bad and they can hear and earrings scream dollar store a rocking ethiopian cleavage long and flat

04:58:00.880 relative to other women objectively you're a five and with bettum cup plus clothes a six

04:58:07.040 i'm sure they're still in the studio i'm sure you're still in the studio oh wow okay she says you're

04:58:14.400 one to the two tens i'm sorry okay we have

04:58:20.240 saint underscore easy donated 99 dollars women know when they are attractive guys are shameless when it

04:58:27.440 comes to showing interest women generally speaking will rarely let a guy know he is the

04:58:33.120 shit hmm saint reason thank you very much man appreciate it

04:58:41.600 oh

04:58:46.480 sorry they had to leave i'm sorry for all these chats addressed

04:58:50.320 modest people were donated 101 dollars imagine thinking you are a 10 if you were a 10

04:58:57.040 you would be so far taken if you think your looks are 10 that's wrong if they were your personality

04:59:08.080 takes you to a three time to leave three hundred and four bricks and w i'm sorry that we that a lot

04:59:14.480 of these were directed at the girls who left but um it's not there's no pause anymore with the tts so we're

04:59:21.520 full steam ahead all right um let's see i had some notes here one sec guys so we had

04:59:30.240 not michelle kylie finally getting to kylie okay at the very fucking end of the show we got we had a lot

04:59:36.720 of chats and stuff so uh you were in oh i need to adjust the uh camera angles here fuck uh i'll wait

04:59:43.120 till uh chase gets back i guess uh you were in a relationship currently it's complicated with the same

04:59:48.560 person but then oh that's when you first reach out but now you're single yeah the things changed since

04:59:54.400 the first tilt the mic up towards you a little bit here scoot your mic closer to you please

05:00:02.240 yeah good yeah yeah we're good uh you said you have a super terrible dating story about the first

05:00:08.000 guy you ever loved why don't you tell us that story okay um where do i start okay i met him at a

05:00:16.160 christmas tree lot um i pretty much fell in love with him instantly he

05:00:27.120 led me on completely broke my heart was a he was addicted to drugs um yeah um but pretty much was

05:00:39.200 like messing around with me the whole time and then seeing his ex-girlfriend behind my back um so

05:00:47.840 basically what happened was he he fucked me over pretty pretty gnarly but um

05:00:55.600 i mean you said that you were 19 you fell in love instantly correct pretty much i would say um you said you

05:01:02.240 were 19 and newly sober yeah so when i was when i was 19 um i stopped everything i didn't drink i

05:01:12.080 didn't really do drugs to be honest but i stopped drinking completely um didn't do drugs and

05:01:19.520 yeah so i had met him pretty like fresh sober yeah so so you had but where did you like were you

05:01:27.760 previously heavily drinking i wouldn't say really heavily it was just kind of something that needed

05:01:37.600 to happen like i like i don't think drinking really benefits like it didn't really benefit my life so

05:01:43.840 yeah and you said literally the moment you shook his hand and introduced yourself you had insane

05:01:48.320 butterflies yeah i remember that okay um what was it about him that gave you the butterflies

05:01:58.400 he was very very very confident okay and he went he was pretty short too he was about five six i'll

05:02:04.960 tell you five six okay so same high yeah okay but he's really confident was he good looking a lot of

05:02:11.600 tattoos charisma no tattoos no he might have had like one but um

05:02:18.480 he i i wouldn't call him insanely good looking okay it was more he's super confident yes he had a

05:02:25.600 an amazing personality um but looks wise he was not definitely like average yeah he was average

05:02:33.600 but you said you had insane butterflies you had insane butterflies for him yes this was when you're

05:02:39.120 19 and you're held again now 20 25 25 okay um have you felt that level of butterflies for any other guy no

05:02:48.800 okay um you say here the cat what is the catch for this guy the catch what was the catch he didn't

05:03:01.440 he didn't let me back so huh he did not no but there's more um i'm trying to remember what oh oh i remember

05:03:11.520 um he ended up in jail

05:03:13.360 and then i found out that he was in jail so i went to go see him

05:03:23.840 pretty much knowing that he wasn't as into me as i was into him here let me i'll try to help out

05:03:33.360 here but you said the whole time the catch is this dude the whole time was a meth and heroin addict

05:03:40.000 oh yeah and secretly seeing his ex-girlfriend the entire time he was whoa okay those are some pretty

05:03:46.560 big red flags um and you said the big thing that attracted you to him was his confidence

05:03:56.480 you're talking like the heroin meth confidence it's the heroin chic the heroin meth charisma um

05:04:03.520 you said we were never never officially together but we're doing all relationship things yes so when

05:04:10.000 you say doing all the relationship things do you mean administering narcan i never had to do that for

05:04:17.840 him that's horrible what is what is i don't even know what that means someone's oding on fentanyl

05:04:26.800 it's like what you administer to damn yeah no but so when you say doing all the relationships what

05:04:33.520 do you mean besides yeah dates sex pda like okay situationship how long were you dating him

05:04:44.000 so um i would say there was like a six month period he kind of dropped off the face of the earth for

05:04:50.400 a little bit came back and then started seeing him again so total i would say probably somewhere

05:04:55.920 about a year or a year and a half but but there was like see i don't even know how accurate that

05:05:02.240 is because there was like a break in between there sure yeah okay wait did you know that he

05:05:08.480 was into drugs when you started dating no i had no clue but then why did you continue after you knew

05:05:15.120 um because i was in love so stupid in love with him oh it was i was i look back on it now and i like

05:05:26.320 i i know it was stupid i would never do that now but um in the time i was super young so i'm 25 now but

05:05:36.560 i was super young and i just kind of let my feelings take me and i think you probably are like i know like

05:05:44.960 women or men or whatever you think that people are going to change like if you have a conversation

05:05:50.160 with them you think like okay now i've had this conversation with them they understand now they'll

05:05:55.520 change right wait so okay how long were you dating him uh it was i'd say somewhere around a year but

05:06:04.880 it was like split up there were it's on again off again kind of it was split up you said because he

05:06:10.240 was in jail or so i was seeing him and then he he went to jail was still seeing him so that was

05:06:19.840 like a six month period then he literally dropped off the face of the earth like i just don't know

05:06:26.960 where he went right so that was about six months and then he showed back up and then i'd say probably

05:06:33.760 like another six months so it was like six months together he ghosted you i guess he went to jail

05:06:39.680 then dated another six months okay were you seeing other guys during that break like did you date other

05:06:44.720 men i think i tried but you were still caught up on feelings yeah it took me a really long time um how

05:06:51.280 early on into the relationship did you find out that he was a meth and heroin addict

05:06:59.600 maybe can you move that mic over please your no no not you you move over the mic go ahead

05:07:06.480 i want to say a couple months okay and that wasn't like a deal breaker red flag for you i knew it was

05:07:17.360 but i didn't care you didn't care why because you were in love with him yeah okay um

05:07:26.240 so you said in your pre-show notes you weren't aware of the drug use in the beginning and there

05:07:29.920 was this one time on halloween six years ago that you picked up his really sketchy friend

05:07:36.240 in laguna niguel where we were driving and all of a sudden the friend who was in your back seat

05:07:41.840 does what so he unwraps a piece of foil and starts just randomly smoking can we say heroin yeah yeah

05:07:55.760 okay i didn't know if there was go ahead so he just started smoking heroin in the back of my car

05:08:01.600 and i didn't know what to do so i didn't say anything um how early on in the relationship was

05:08:08.640 that this was a few months this was before the ghost or whatever yeah this was before that okay yeah um

05:08:19.680 and so you said you were in so much shock you couldn't even say anything

05:08:22.720 uh then your boyfriend's guy whatever grabs the drugs from him and smokes it too yes

05:08:32.160 okay so he looks at me disrespects me and it's like i'm gonna do it anyway can you get like you

05:08:40.160 know how you can hot box can you get like a contact thing probably yeah while you're driving that's a

05:08:47.520 not even more um that's you were driving you were driving i was driving yeah for how long after the

05:08:53.520 whole heroin in the car incident did you stay with him i honestly don't think it was much longer after

05:08:59.280 that well no but but you said okay you said it was before he went he ghosted you so you said you were

05:09:04.800 with him for six months and then there was the break and then you dated him for another six months

05:09:11.040 after he got out of prison or jail or something so it was so long ago that i it's the timeline is a

05:09:18.240 little that's that's fine but you so it was before the jail incident that the car in heroin incident

05:09:25.840 occurred i actually don't i don't remember if the car incident was before or after jail okay but

05:09:32.960 how long did you stay with him after that incident the heroin in the car incident we'll call it i want

05:09:42.000 to say maybe another couple months and that wasn't like the immediate no dude because i gave him like

05:09:49.360 the hey that can never happen again you know like i talked to him about it and okay um i mean that that

05:09:55.920 exact well that exact situation never happened again you know but then it was other things um

05:10:02.320 okay but also it's like this guy was never he really was never my boyfriend it was sure it was

05:10:12.160 more just like even worse i know right i know it's even worse he wasn't even loyal to you correct

05:10:18.800 okay um you said he ended up in jail and then eventually prison um the first time he ended up in jail he

05:10:26.480 dropped off the face of the earth so i did some investigating and found out that he was indeed in jail

05:10:30.720 had to use the chick fbi skills anyway i went to visit him you went to visit him in jail yes okay

05:10:39.040 and you had your first ever jail visitation for a boyfriend that was it conjugal no i don't think

05:10:44.240 you can do conjugals what's that it's like you can they in person you can like they give you a little

05:10:51.760 house or something in the jail that's only for married people it's you got to be married yeah um

05:10:56.560 uh oh but okay so you visited him in jail since you visited him in jail uh you noticed you indeed

05:11:05.120 have a type crying laughing emoji yeah uh you broke it off eventually because he was a piece of

05:11:12.880 shit you said you've noticed you indeed have a type what is your type it's uh definitely what i said

05:11:23.440 earlier i definitely like well it now is different than it was but i like the reformed bad boy compared

05:11:32.800 to what was then just the bad boy yeah because like the bad boy is just gonna get you in trouble

05:11:39.200 and fuck you over right you're not gonna end up with that person in the end most likely um but

05:11:46.000 i mean honestly like my my type is someone who has been through things like that but has overcome

05:11:56.480 so maybe not currently in like it doesn't have to be drugs it could just be like any hardship okay so

05:12:06.000 but so your type is past prison sentences i i do like prison dudes not gonna lie

05:12:13.360 you do like why i'm just curious like why what about them is attractive so i find and i don't do this

05:12:22.720 on purpose but i find a lot of them are very organized very kind to women they're very chivalrous

05:12:31.600 they're clean as fuck but i feel like there are non-prison guys that are just like that

05:12:38.960 sorry what'd you say oh i i feel like like there's a lot of guys out there that didn't go to prison

05:12:45.520 that's like clean and neat and treats women really nicely there are i i don't i don't know i'm just

05:12:53.120 telling you what happens what i am attracted to um it's you have hebristophilia what's that that's the

05:13:02.320 phenomenon of an individual being sexually aroused by a criminal offender oh goodness modest hikima

05:13:08.240 donated 101 dollars brixton plaza tell us which girls you want to have backslash forth with during reg

05:13:16.240 show so we don't interrupt with tts when total bore forcing to pause jackie python is a virus agree or

05:13:24.560 disagree same w slash aws all hail master bezos and pitch a you're welcome uh i i i actually don't

05:13:35.680 mind python but i use a lot of java all right there you have it um yeah so hold on let me clear that

05:13:45.520 chase do you want to rejoin the yes all right you you said you think modern dating is horrendous and

05:13:53.360 difficult women don't respect themselves and men are unfaithful or so it seems that way so how do

05:13:59.280 women not respect themselves um and how is modern dating horrendous and difficult do you think it might

05:14:05.040 be go ahead go ahead you're gonna roast me are you um well you see it i i imagine you like pass up

05:14:14.720 opportunities with good men because you're like attracted to these guys who you said you're you

05:14:22.000 you your type is men who have a history of incarceration not not all of them just

05:14:32.560 it seems to be the case that most of the men you date are were previously incarcerated

05:14:37.520 i've only really dated like a few like like less than a handful of people raven dt donated 100

05:14:47.040 find yourself an older military man if you want an organized man the military is a lot like prison

05:14:53.200 except they volunteered to go and they are building a real career become a tricharer tops don't date

05:14:59.920 anyone below e6 though those guys are f boys oh it's honestly good advice those guys are f boys how

05:15:07.840 many dudes have you dated that have been to prison you said a handful well no i've only dated

05:15:14.160 less than a handful of guys oh okay how many of them have been to prison

05:15:18.720 if we're counting the the first guy then one two three four five two two it's two okay well you said

05:15:31.040 but you said your type is i've noticed i indeed have a type it's because i i i look at guys like that

05:15:38.320 i'm like oh he's he's hot he looks like he went to jail these girls and their bad boy tendencies no no no no but

05:15:49.360 i don't let me in i'm not i'm not about prison guys or anything but well you said you date bad boys

05:15:54.800 a little bit right yeah yeah um so okay um

05:16:01.040 um so you you say modern dating is horrendous and difficult don't you think you might be

05:16:12.400 making making it difficult for yourself it needs to be by dating these types of men yeah

05:16:18.320 i think okay my own but like choice you have agency you have choice but i will tell you um

05:16:25.040 my longest relationship he went to prison he was the most amazing guy wait like ever like i mean

05:16:37.760 he

05:16:39.680 wait is this the meth the meth no no no different different prison guy yeah we were together for

05:16:44.480 like three and a half years yeah um what did he go to what drugs was it drugs for him too or uh he he

05:16:51.360 he had a history of drug use yeah okay um yeah uh okay but he's a like the most stand-up individual

05:17:00.720 sure yeah you can turn your life around absolutely yeah he was on that for sure

05:17:06.720 but like it seems like specifically going after these men and disregarding other men who perhaps

05:17:12.400 don't have that kind of history seems to be a bit self-sabotaging i don't specifically go after

05:17:17.920 them i just find myself attracted to guys like that but i would be open to way more than that

05:17:24.720 because i know that there's other kinds of guys out there i'm just saying that that i see a dude is

05:17:30.880 it like is it the dangerous vibe like is it that there's like a hint of danger not necessarily towards

05:17:35.520 you but you know that they're like they're bad men like they're not necessarily morally bad

05:17:41.360 because i don't like them like when they're in the doing the bad stuff i i don't i don't like that

05:17:47.600 she likes the reformed version is it is it like kind of like the lawless cowboy vibe that you like

05:17:53.440 like there's a little bit of danger there you know like what what is it probably a little bit yeah yeah

05:17:59.600 i think that guy's advice to go for military men is honestly really good advice i would agree my

05:18:03.840 grandpa was a military guy and him and my grandma were married for over 60 years so wow yeah you should

05:18:13.520 totally go for like military dudes not under e6 like that guy said but yeah don't make my mistakes yeah

05:18:21.680 are you in general okay with drugs with guys i don't like i don't like drugs or alcohol you like

05:18:30.160 tatted guys um sure but i also like not tattooed guys as well when you see a guy with tattoos does

05:18:38.160 it like signal something to you like yo this guy might be a little dangerous no because you can also

05:18:43.360 have certain kinds of tattoos that make you very not attractive so just because you have tattoos doesn't

05:18:51.280 mean like what what kind of tattoos make a guy i'll tell you and i'm so sorry if anybody has these

05:18:58.160 tattoos but um a dude a dude with a lion roses black and gray roses and a compass or or a wolf have you

05:19:11.680 had like specific experiences with guys with those tattoos or do you just generally find those specific

05:19:16.240 tattoos unattractive well i i i'm an artist so i do these for a living and so you see like a certain

05:19:24.320 type of personality that comes in through the doors that gets these tattoos that's the weirdest thing

05:19:30.640 okay i don't know what is that kind of personality um well i'll just call it not my not my thing

05:19:37.840 what is it what is it i don't even know how to explain it um i would just say like super

05:19:47.600 fuck boyish maybe okay or maybe maybe that and then um you're you're nodding your head in agreement

05:19:54.400 have you experienced the same vibe with dudes with those tattoos so the one that got the other

05:19:59.440 girl pregnant and all that he had a compass tattoo right here and i'm not sure if he had a line i don't

05:20:06.800 think he did but i always thought it was the most attractive thing in the world and then i saw his

05:20:12.720 brother get it because i was close with his brother because his brother did nothing wrong

05:20:16.800 and then once his brother got it he turned it was i was like wait so his brother got the tattoo and

05:20:22.880 then turned bad he turned into a different vibe for me he always used to be that like innocent like

05:20:30.000 he got a compass tattoo he got the compass tattoo and then it all just went downhill for him

05:20:34.880 interesting what is it with i will always i will always love him because he's he was like a little

05:20:40.640 brother to me but like no not anymore okay i'm trying to think if i know anyone with compass tattoos

05:20:48.000 it's such a strange it's weird as soon as she said compass i was like oh no no

05:20:55.760 you want to keep rolling brian yeah hold on i had to adjust the cameras there although probably yeah um

05:21:03.760 you said that there's a very apparent hookup culture and absolute hoflation going on so what

05:21:07.840 what is hoflation um i think where meaningless hookups and sex are glorified and

05:21:19.360 i just see i mean like that kind of stuff was going on when i was a when i was a teenager so like

05:21:24.800 10 years ago ish it was still a thing so it seems to be consistent um but i don't think

05:21:31.280 i mean yeah that's that's hoflation just

05:21:38.960 glorified casual sex and hookups and whatnot

05:21:42.800 okay and then i think the last thing here let's see oh it well we had so many notes i think i'll

05:21:54.080 scratch the there's like so many points i could i wrote down but i don't know if we have time

05:22:00.480 we have any super chats no super chats uh i did want it seemed like you

05:22:06.880 pushed back quite a bit on the body count thing so it sounded like do you object to men caring about

05:22:11.200 body count and we'll go around the table on this absolutely absolutely okay what about you i think

05:22:16.080 you have a right to care if you want to care sure um i mean you can care if you want but everybody has

05:22:23.920 a past and people overcome their issues so okay so do you do you object to men having that preference

05:22:32.400 like low body count in women i mean everybody has their own preference so i don't object okay

05:22:41.520 well do you think it's insecure or immature hold on saint underscore easy donated 99

05:22:48.160 women don't like guys that are good for them or guys on a fixed income tell a girl you're not good

05:22:54.080 for her she will think it's sexy do you think it's insecure or immature to care about body count i don't i

05:23:04.880 mean i grew up in a very christian household um so i mean unfortunately i'm not a virgin so um i can't

05:23:14.240 give that to my future husband but i i wouldn't be upset if like i was no i do not object because that's

05:23:22.960 what i also look for in a guy i think guys have the right to care okay so do you why why do you object

05:23:33.680 to it to men caring about body count why do you think it's insecure you shouldn't judge on the past

05:23:41.760 what do you why yeah i guess i i think that's what i'm more so lean towards is that you're condemning

05:23:46.320 someone for their past and you're not letting them grow or change or be who the person that they are now

05:23:50.960 and to condemn someone for their past is just dumb like like you know like you don't you just i just

05:23:57.280 think that's dumb you think it's dumb yeah to condemn someone for their past or for their past

05:24:02.640 choices like you should like people can change and people can be someone completely different than who

05:24:07.520 they were and you don't know if that was like a phase when they were like okay so when it comes to

05:24:12.640 this whole it's in the past argument we shouldn't judge people on their past let's not act like when it

05:24:19.200 comes to dating that men are these judgmental pricks and women are for benevolent forgivers of all

05:24:28.160 women are extremely discerning when it comes to who they date women are picker than men women are

05:24:33.920 more selective than men women disqualify men for numerous reasons so i guess why is it okay then for

05:24:41.360 women to have preferences standards and boundaries but men are not i guess it depends on like what like

05:24:48.080 what kind of like i don't know like well sorry go ahead go ahead no go ahead well when we went went

05:24:55.520 around the table did you say remind me did you say you would date a virgin yeah you would did you say

05:25:04.640 it wasn't sex was teachable so okay that's fair that's okay well that's fair then um what about i

05:25:10.960 forgot about you guys but okay don't know well i would argue though that a lot of women who would

05:25:18.240 say well we shouldn't judge people on their past a lot of women would also judge a man on his

05:25:23.360 past lack of sexual experience a lot of women like we had multiple women here say they wouldn't date a

05:25:30.800 virgin yeah i don't know i don't know their get down but like for me it's like even i'm not gonna talk

05:25:36.400 about that but like uh i've definitely taught people like like gotten into a relationship

05:25:40.720 with somebody and like they're not the best at sex and then i teach them exactly what i like

05:25:46.640 they can learn girl number two fuck boy is considered a slur as far as i'm aware as i'm not

05:25:54.480 allowed to say it without it being hate speech even in an extremely right state utah are you homophobic

05:26:00.160 you describe tattoos of lions roses compass wolves as being is did you say because it is i said

05:26:06.240 fuck boy did you say fuck boy or something else i said fuck boy that got to him i think he probably

05:26:12.560 has the other f word maybe um yeah and is somebody tapping on the ground just please don't tap on our

05:26:22.480 ground we have the sorry yeah um so so you object like if i preferred a girl who has a low body count

05:26:31.120 you object to that it depends on what do you mean by low body count like if you're saying like

05:26:36.880 yeah that's ridiculous three to five three to five is ridiculous why is that ridiculous because how old

05:26:42.960 is the girl that you're looking for it doesn't matter it i mean like what world do you live in that

05:26:48.800 you think that you're gonna find like there i hear from 30 year old virgin women all the time

05:26:54.240 i don't believe them oh you don't believe that a 30 year old could be i mean look some women do lie

05:26:59.200 about that but there there are older like older women who are virgins there's women with religious

05:27:04.160 convictions there's women who just choose not to sleep around why have they not found if they have

05:27:08.880 like these religious convictions or if they're so like such saints why aren't they married and like

05:27:13.360 you know what i mean like how are you single well so that's a different that's a different

05:27:16.640 question we've gone from whether or not the women exist to now why are you still a virgin like some

05:27:21.360 people just choose not to have sex they view it as a sacred thing and they don't want to sleep with

05:27:25.440 people unless they're serious with them i know but why wouldn't they find that person then those people

05:27:30.000 i get like i i know a lot of people like that like because i have family down in alabama but they get

05:27:34.000 they get married when they're like 18 they get married when they're 20 and then like they they're

05:27:38.080 banging their husband you know what i mean it's not like they're waiting until they're 30 and they're like

05:27:41.440 i'm still a virgin like come on what 30 year old virgin that's like being a 40 year old virgin

05:27:47.200 i mean sometimes they're socially awkward women that haven't found the right guy sometimes they're

05:27:50.800 women with very high high standards that haven't found the right guy for any number of reasons like

05:27:55.120 it's somebody could ask the same question of you why haven't you found the right guy you're 33 years

05:27:59.600 old like i'm not a virgin it's the same i know but it's it's the same thing like why didn't those women

05:28:05.040 find the right guy i've wanted to find the right guy like neither party did but to say that it's

05:28:10.000 ridiculous for a man to prefer that is ridiculous i i think i think three to five is ridiculous like

05:28:19.200 for me like it's just so ridiculous i can guarantee that both of you guys have way more than three to

05:28:23.440 five bodies she belongs to the streets no way more i guarantee mine's not much higher i wanted to ask

05:28:29.760 you a question if i may what's up is it related but go ahead what's up it's related to sex okay so

05:28:35.760 like i said i've been watching the podcast right for a while so i was following your story when you

05:28:41.200 were celibate for a very long time and then you met a lady that took that period of celibacy away

05:28:48.800 from you and i wanted to ask you if you were still with her it's private information okay i'm just

05:28:55.040 curious bringing you back to body count though so you think it's crazy to think like three to five yeah i

05:29:01.600 mean it depends how old are you talking here i mean what do you mean how old am i how like about

05:29:07.280 what what woman what's what's her age why why does it matter because if you're talking about an 18 year

05:29:13.280 old sure yes okay obviously someone who's a bit older she's had more relationship experience she

05:29:18.560 might have a higher body count right yeah if you're talking about a sure year old like three to five is

05:29:22.960 just i don't know for me i it's just so ridiculous well okay here we'll go around the table i want to go

05:29:28.160 around the table on this um so i forgot everyone's individual answers on this well okay if body count

05:29:36.240 doesn't matter right body count does matter shouldn't matter it does to many men yes no i'm saying i'm not

05:29:42.880 saying it it doesn't matter because like if you have like hundreds like okay come on bro like or like

05:29:47.600 50 like there gets to a point where it's a little excessive right but three to five like

05:29:52.160 no i don't think three i didn't say three to five is high i didn't say three to five is high

05:29:59.840 but you said like three to five you think that's insane for a girl to have a three to five body count

05:30:06.640 yeah someone said that am i pulling that out of air i think what am i pulling out of thin air i thought

05:30:12.240 one of you guys said three to five is a desirable no three to five was like too much oh or maybe i

05:30:18.240 i see what you're saying i haven't i see what you're saying maybe i just pulled that i don't

05:30:20.880 know i see what you're saying okay i mean there's there are i will say there are many men out there

05:30:25.280 who you know it's a saying on the internet all the time no hymen no diamond like there are many men

05:30:30.400 out there who prefer virgins now obviously that's hard to find particularly at 30 years old but like

05:30:35.280 many men out there do not want to be with a woman who slept with a bunch of guys where are they

05:30:39.360 from like these are just normal dudes throughout all of america and the western world abdul yeah get the

05:30:45.600 rocks get the rocks you say where are they from but you have to realize this has been the

05:30:49.440 preference of men throughout all of human history

05:30:55.120 i guess i guess i i think that now not all men i will add not all men some men don't really care

05:31:02.240 that much i would say a majority of men don't care i would say the majority of men that i know

05:31:06.800 absolutely do care well that's a different community it's not i mean yeah i'm not friends

05:31:12.160 with like a bunch of leftists for example but like the majority of dudes i know who even aren't

05:31:16.880 particularly political like they yes across the board generally speaking prefer women with lower

05:31:22.800 body counts yeah and i mean i mean that's fine i mean like i i don't have like an astronomically

05:31:29.120 high body count it's just like i i don't like i feel like that's such an ongoing argument with men

05:31:35.520 and like body counts and i think it just like triggers me because it goes back to like what i was

05:31:40.160 talking about before about just like that grid one motorsports donated 100 body count matters my body

05:31:49.200 count is high my wife's was low i was 34 when we met and she was 23 i do not feel like i am a

05:31:56.800 particularly uncommon my body count did not matter to her although she has over the years teased me

05:32:02.720 about it while i did care there we go so thank you grid one appreciate it yeah thank you very much

05:32:09.040 because you just led me right into what i was going to say is that it like it's such a double

05:32:13.760 standard where it's like men and i don't like that and i think it like it just triggers me because like

05:32:18.320 that just gets under my skin it's like who the f are you to tell me or judge me on my body count

05:32:24.000 when your body count is probably 10 times higher than mine like who who the hell it's just like it just

05:32:29.520 bugs me and triggers me because it's like it's just crazy to me like how how do you think you're in any

05:32:36.080 position to judge when well you know i'll definitely not you and not you personally i just mean in

05:32:40.880 general i think i i personally find it ridiculous when dudes that have slept with hundreds of women

05:32:45.840 like judge women super harshly over it but also at the same time you know one of the things that we've

05:32:50.240 talked about on the show many times is yes there's a double standard but it exists for a reason and that

05:32:56.080 reason is look i mean you could go out tonight and find a hundred dudes that would want to sleep with

05:33:00.960 you you're a pretty woman got good energy guarantee you could get laid by a hundred different guys

05:33:05.760 throughout the city for guys it's a totally different story it's a totally different story

05:33:11.280 i'm like i'm i'm a decently good looking guy compared to the average i don't think i'm like

05:33:16.400 an ultra giga chad but like even for a guy like me like it's the number of women that i could sleep

05:33:21.760 with compared to the number of men that you could sleep with it's a huge differential and the reason why

05:33:27.680 there is a double standard is because if a woman wants to rack up a very high body count like if a

05:33:33.760 woman wants to sleep with a hundred guys all she has to do is open her legs if a guy wants to sleep

05:33:38.240 with a hundred women he has to become an absolute stud in order to do so now that doesn't mean that

05:33:43.040 it's okay for him to do so i i don't i totally disagree with men sleeping with tons of women i think

05:33:49.120 it's bad for society i also think it's bad for society for women to sleep with a lot of men

05:33:53.360 but the reason why the double standard exists is because it's very easy for women to get sex

05:34:00.400 it's much more difficult for for men to get sex and it's i said earlier in the show that one of the

05:34:07.920 signs of a high value woman is a woman who can say no right if a woman can can say no to men that

05:34:15.520 shows that she can express discretion she has self-control she has self-discipline and those

05:34:23.200 are desirable traits in a mate right a lot of women you know women women like guys that are desired by

05:34:31.280 many other women you know like and and one of the reasons why it's judged less less harshly towards men

05:34:37.120 is because if a woman if if a guy has a ton of options and he's slept with a lot of women and

05:34:43.120 he's like an absolute stud and he decides that he likes you like women will often overlook it because

05:34:49.040 they're like wow this guy could have like any woman he wants and he's choosing me and so it gets judged

05:34:53.600 less harshly right but guys look at it differently because it's like well you could sleep with like

05:34:58.160 any man on the planet if you wanted to and if you have done so it's like that's not good but if you have

05:35:03.040 chosen not to especially from like a partnership and marriage perspective if a woman is able to say

05:35:10.000 no that's a green flag right if a woman can't say no or she won't say no then it's a red flag because

05:35:17.680 it's like we were talking about earlier in the show it's like you have to ensure paternity like

05:35:23.600 i as a guy there's like biological mechanisms in my mind where i'm like okay i want to make sure that

05:35:28.640 you're going to be saying no to other guys in marriage or you know if a woman has a high body

05:35:34.080 count it begs the question are you the type of person who you know if a guy gives you the feels

05:35:39.360 are you just going to sleep with him right off the bat could i trust that you wouldn't cheat on me in

05:35:42.800 marriage like that's it's like i don't even think people really consciously think about it but that's

05:35:47.760 kind of what's driving the thought process and it's you know if a woman has slept with like 150 guys

05:35:53.520 or something like that it's like whoa red flag that's dangerous she might sleep around while we're

05:35:58.000 married so on and so forth like undesirable in that sense does that make sense okay so that's

05:36:03.600 why there's a double standard there now i'm not saying that like again it's good for men to sleep

05:36:07.440 with a lot of women i don't think it is i don't think it's good for either sex to have a lot of

05:36:10.960 partners yeah but that's why the double standard exists yeah i just feel like it's one of those

05:36:15.040 things that men is like like men just constantly like that's like their life modest hikima donated 101

05:36:22.640 dollars angry feminist angry because biology do i agree with her kinder but also like read a

05:36:30.880 biology book about animals not humans and then read a book about human animals knowledge is wild

05:36:38.800 men hit prime mid to late 30 women 20 to 25

05:36:43.040 okay yeah thank you for those good go ahead do you want to respond did you i forgot what i was

05:36:50.000 going to say well i mean just to address the double standard thing so i i think it would be a double

05:36:56.400 standard if for example i didn't think it was okay for women to care about body count i absolutely think

05:37:04.800 i don't if a woman doesn't want to date a guy with a high body count that's totally fine i think that's

05:37:09.840 where the double standard is now i see what you're saying about this double standard where

05:37:13.680 men are to some degree revered if they can sleep with a lot of women and women are shamed for it

05:37:19.520 chase already kind of pretty much addressed that i mean i would say that it really comes down to most

05:37:24.880 women can sleep with most men most men cannot sleep with most women yes ergo it's to some degree

05:37:30.640 like chase said a guy has to bring something to the table he has to be impressive in some way he has to

05:37:35.520 be a stud in order to sleep with a ton of like a ton of women whereas the reverse it's very easy

05:37:41.280 for women any girl here at this table could be a slut if she wanted to yeah you could just

05:37:46.800 like we've had like any woman could be like an insane sex addict but like we we had a show with

05:37:52.880 a girl who she was a sex addict she slept with five guys in a day in order for a guy to sleep with

05:37:59.520 five women in a day he has to be like so insanely fucking attractive these were new guys by the way

05:38:06.320 and she's doing this every single night for like a weeks on end was my understanding you need to be

05:38:12.160 like drake you need to be the top top top tier professional athlete you need to be a famous musician

05:38:22.480 famous actor if you want to sleep with that many women that's the difference sports so it's not

05:38:26.480 respected um to add to what chase is saying when i was young i slept around because i could but

05:38:32.960 chose women that i knew were not wife potential if they were going to give me sex i was certainly not

05:38:39.200 going to turn it down however they had zero relationship potential yep there you have it

05:38:45.920 sorry go ahead no go ahead so you're a guy you're trying to tell me that your guys's inboxes or

05:38:50.000 your dms are not flooded with messages you couldn't go out and bang 50 chicks tonight if you wanted to

05:38:58.000 no no i mean no i got a lot of girls great chase chase is a chat i'm sure you both do huh i'm sure

05:39:06.800 you both do from like you know i have but look we're on a freaking super viral dating podcast like

05:39:14.080 we're extreme outliers in the population before doing this no i did not have a bunch of women

05:39:19.840 that were in my dms all the time you know like now yes there's a decent amount of chicks in my dms

05:39:25.920 i won't lie but the point that's not like an own though that's not an own because like we can take

05:39:32.080 an average woman who's 19 years old who has a thousand followers on instagram who goes to college

05:39:37.520 she's getting the equivalent amount of sexual attention or well she's getting dms that is reserved

05:39:45.200 for guys with like substantial social media followings like average 19 year old dudes in

05:39:50.880 college are not getting dm'd by girls getting offers to be flown out and getting sugar sugar mama offers

05:39:58.640 that doesn't exist it's it's it's actually crazy like there's 19 year old girls from here in the

05:40:03.440 area that have come on the show and they've got like five ten thousand followers on instagram

05:40:07.280 getting dms from like football players and rappers and like all this kind of stuff and ultimately what

05:40:12.800 it comes down to in my opinion is like

05:40:17.760 it's if like brian was saying if if you guys want to sleep with a ton of men that's very easy to do so

05:40:24.720 and i think i think where the judgment comes from is it's like if a woman you know you've been with

05:40:33.760 guys that like you've liked and you've been attracted to and so on and so forth and some

05:40:37.280 of those guys have been like bad choices for you you know and the thing the thing that's going to

05:40:42.000 really impress a man who cares about your past is if he's going to see okay you were in positions

05:40:48.320 of temptation and you chose to exercise self-control and you knew your value and your worth and you were

05:40:53.840 not going to give yourself to men who didn't deserve you right because a lot of women one of the

05:40:59.600 things that i've noticed about about women and kind of female psychology is a lot of women

05:41:04.880 you know the body count thing is interesting because there's women out there who just like

05:41:07.840 they're horny and they want to have sex like i met a ton of girls like that here in isla

05:41:11.600 vista when i was in college like there were so many girls in my dorm complex they just they

05:41:15.120 wanted to go get laid did you go to ucs3 no i went to city college but i lived at one of the

05:41:19.680 dorms here in isla vista and there were all these girls there that just like you know they just

05:41:24.480 wanted to go get laid you know sometimes or oftentimes i think women will give sex in order

05:41:30.880 to get love and they will give so you guys agree with that a lot of times given women will give sex

05:41:38.160 to men who do not deserve them or their sex right like women will give themselves to men who are not

05:41:46.560 good men they don't deserve those women but women crave love and so they'll give their bodies to bad men

05:41:52.400 and then they'll get burned and oftentimes this will result in like an unhealthy pattern where

05:41:56.720 it'll repeat over and over and over again and i think a lot of women will rack up higher body

05:42:00.960 counts because of this pattern right which is why i've suggested hey like you know filter the bad guys

05:42:07.120 by not having sex with them right off the bat you'll be able to tell who actually likes you for you

05:42:12.080 and part of the reason why that judgment is there and why it's a red flag for men is because it's

05:42:17.120 i mean speaking from personal experience it's like if a woman has a high body count it's like

05:42:22.560 are you able to exercise self-control it's easy for you to have sex or are you able to turn things

05:42:28.320 down even if you feel an emotional pull does that make sense yeah do you think if a girl has a high

05:42:33.680 body count that she lacks that control too i think i don't necessarily think like it's a guarantee that

05:42:40.640 she lacks that control but i think it begs the question does she have it you know because if a woman's

05:42:45.600 a virgin let's say there's a really attractive woman and she's a virgin right you know that woman

05:42:51.520 has self-control you know damn well that that woman is like there's probably a bunch of guys if

05:42:57.280 let's say a girl's super hot and she's a virgin you know there's a bunch of guys throwing themselves at

05:43:01.280 her and she's shooting them down you know that woman has self-control you don't necessarily know

05:43:06.160 that a woman doesn't have self-control if she has a high body count but it is a good guarantee that

05:43:11.440 she doesn't have good judgment when it comes to guys and it begs the question is she a slave to her

05:43:16.480 emotions or can she govern her actions does that make sense yeah and it goes back to the paternity

05:43:21.920 thing that brian was talking about earlier we have a biological need and a biological drive to ensure

05:43:28.000 our paternity because like if i marry a woman and i sleep with her but she also sleeps with another

05:43:33.920 man and she cheats on me and then he gets her pregnant like i would be screwed raising that guy's

05:43:38.880 kid if i didn't know that it wasn't my own right we want to avoid that yeah i feel like if i was a man

05:43:44.320 i would get a dna test no matter what like i'm getting a dna test you know what i mean like that

05:43:49.040 would be like my first thing as a man like if a girl was like i'm pregnant i'd be like okay dna test and

05:43:54.000 then we'll go from there yeah i think if you trust a woman and her character it's not necessary

05:43:58.160 like i don't even want to be with a woman where that would be a question in my mind yeah no definitely

05:44:02.160 yeah and i think yeah and i think like body counts just frustrating for me because it's like i'm

05:44:06.340 literally like so loyal like if i'm in a relationship with you i'm like the most loyal person ever and

05:44:11.280 then it's like i don't know like well and i think on top of that too part of the reason why it's

05:44:15.900 probably frustrating for you is because you're like okay i can't go back in time and change my

05:44:19.860 mistakes like yeah what's done is done i think all you can do moving forward is change your your

05:44:26.280 future actions yeah you know what i'm saying which is why i've been like harping so much like yo

05:44:31.160 filter guys better yeah you know filter guys better because what you don't want is to get into a

05:44:37.720 relationship with the wrong kind of guy and then have him waste half your 30s and then you're

05:44:43.800 screwed at the end of your 30s what'd you say i said i already did that yeah like you don't have time

05:44:49.360 to waste you know yeah i think all you can do is just like i i would recommend change your

05:44:54.560 behaviors start filtering guys better and just pray to god for the man that he created for you

05:44:59.300 yeah you know so the question which now must be a ribbon at if body count matters what is your body

05:45:09.040 count can i ask you what you think a high body count is just answer the question oh no just answer

05:45:14.160 15 okay do not multiply that by three because multiply by three she watches the show she watches

05:45:21.680 the show what about you i am not going to disclose my body count at no range range i'm not giving you

05:45:28.420 range what the heck i didn't know i didn't know there was an option just do it don't let your dreams

05:45:35.840 be dreams yesterday you said tomorrow so just do it make your dreams come true just do it

05:45:46.140 to just has shia motivated you no i love shia probably like 15 15 okay zero

05:45:55.440 i don't want to say because it's kind of embarrassing no it's not why is it embarrassing

05:46:01.600 because it's too low or too high into the mic oh no because i i don't mind don't feel comfortable

05:46:08.680 saying oh i see okay i did not know there was an option to opt out

05:46:12.420 i know and no one ever opts out look i can't force somebody to if you don't feel comfortable to say

05:46:20.540 anything you're not going to be like why did you come on dating show if you didn't want to take

05:46:24.300 your body count i haven't i've never done that never done that that's a different one i've never

05:46:28.560 said that uh these girls did their research apparently she did i didn't sorry multiply it

05:46:35.400 by three and that's the real number no that's not true wait you said 15 i said five no you didn't

05:46:43.500 five times three is 15 so five oh god help us and you said 15 ish ish ish again okay the

05:46:50.020 i just didn't want to put the ish there but it's i'll say 15 to 20 oh 15 to 20 yeah okay i'm not

05:46:57.560 going to explain you have any brothers i am actually an only child okay yeah okay uh from a single mom

05:47:05.420 i i was screwed from the beginning it's fine 15 to 15 to 20 so what is it is it 15 is it 20 yeah

05:47:14.080 oh like you're not you're just not quite sure uh i'm not gonna i'm not gonna disclose the

05:47:19.700 reasonings why the heck i would to be honest with you if 15 is true it's not like astronomically high

05:47:28.060 i know that's what i was saying before i was like it's not my number is not like there's there's a lot

05:47:31.700 of guys that like wouldn't like be like oh my god you're ruined for life now if you had said like

05:47:37.140 70 or 80 that's crazy who's walking around with 70 bodies i should have totally just been dramatic

05:47:43.120 and been like 200 there's there's there are people walking around are you in the 70s range brian

05:47:49.380 i do not disclose this oh wait so you make us disclose what you want that's the name of the game

05:47:55.480 that's that's not how that works that's not how that works uh well i guess it is how it works

05:48:01.180 all right we have oh my god bro i can't um guarantee the morbidly obese woman's dms are just

05:48:08.580 just as full as chases dms let that sink in women look at what he looks like like look at you you are

05:48:15.920 so ugly like who are you to call anyone look at your face okay first off i love how everybody's

05:48:23.940 taking offense to this but me i know damn well i have no one in here i really don't i don't care

05:48:30.080 honestly your last travola if you want to fire back i'm gonna wrap up the show here pretty soon

05:48:35.080 curtis leone amazon girl x86 assembly it allows you to do any programming functionality prison girl

05:48:41.380 brian is a hypothetical prison inmate so huh chase i'm not a religious person but a lot of the values

05:48:47.320 you present are spot on with any man great values much love brother thanks for the super chat

05:48:53.480 curtis appreciate it can i ask you guys a question go ahead what's up what is what how high is too high

05:48:58.660 for you guys like what would you count just just give me an average it's hard i mean i'm a i'm a just

05:49:05.580 man i believe in redemption oh god that's all but however you know look uh

05:49:12.200 modest hikima donated 101 dna test no matter what is seen as misogynistic when asked for by the father

05:49:22.920 why girl number one did she say respect for sharing body counts not very high all things

05:49:29.640 considered jackie please know you can move from w and work remote 100 for higher dollar

05:49:36.560 word thank you wait did you say it was misogynistic he said dna test no matter what

05:49:44.500 is going to look as misogynistic if you ask that i feel like i feel like a lot of women if you ask them

05:49:50.300 right off the bat to just do a dna test particularly if you're married do them

05:49:54.280 yeah that's like extreme offense that's like a fight waiting to happen that's like a huge fight

05:50:01.560 that's like you're sleeping on the couch you're actually just sleeping in your car like like if

05:50:06.240 you trust your woman and she trusts you and you're like yo i need you to do a dna test she's gonna be

05:50:11.180 like what yeah i mean it better be a joke i mean if i was i'll give you a moment to joke but

05:50:16.940 nickelodeon says the question was total body count not in one day platoon

05:50:20.200 booper also i was trying to be nice not calling her name but please ask

05:50:24.180 kim chunk eel to answer my nationalism question what was his question did your boyfriend radicalize

05:50:31.100 you on nationalism no he's a nationalist he's like a christian nationalist oh based

05:50:35.780 yeah he's like america first the girl with the griper boyfriend yeah yeah oh okay nice

05:50:41.680 wait sorry so what were you saying you were you were gonna ask this question but then the tts came

05:50:47.740 in oh what was two what's too high of a body count yeah the lower the better okay okay ballpark it

05:50:53.880 the lower the better shout out to my christian nationalist let's go i mean double digit i start

05:50:59.600 doing an eyebrow raise once it gets into double digit territory um same major eyebrow raise more than 20

05:51:08.340 major eyebrow raise like more than 30 that's i mean again though

05:51:15.060 very strong preference for like low low low body count as low as possible brian what is your body

05:51:22.120 count not revealing that he's not going to not revealing what is your body count i've said in

05:51:26.860 the past it's eight really you have said in the past you're right yeah you watched the last episode

05:51:32.860 i don't reveal i didn't watch the last episode oh shit or did i we're watching on the way home

05:51:38.560 my so i'll give you the answer that i've given in the past i was i think the first episode i ever did

05:51:45.220 some girl was like i i said my limit is my own body count oh and then i said that i would prefer a

05:51:51.840 virgin and then some girl that was on the panel was like okay but what if you met like a really amazing

05:51:57.700 girl but hers was higher than you and i told her she'd have to be really amazing that's my answer

05:52:04.200 yeah you know that's fair it's fair all right guys we're gonna wrap up fine any final thoughts before

05:52:09.780 i wrap up from anybody speak now forever hold your hand no thank you for having me thank you for

05:52:15.760 having us this was really fun thank you thank you uh we'll do quick really quick guys go to twitch.tv

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05:52:42.600 show uh we apologies to some of you i know some of you sent in some chats those girls left and some

05:52:49.020 of them were just at them we had to pause some of them and your chat was related to a conversation

05:52:54.000 that had already passed um the frequency was just really high i so for future shows might think about

05:52:59.960 potentially i'll have to figure out a way to address it but i do want to thank uh some of our

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05:53:21.940 wonderful panel those of you who made it to the end i suppose um any women who want to be on the

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05:53:31.400 at 5 p.m pacific uh got a very good panel for tuesday be sure to tune in and uh man i had so many

05:53:38.180 other things i want to talk about but unfortunately we're out of time so we'll see you next time guys

05:53:42.020 oh sevens in the chat good night oh sevens in the chat good night guys

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Whatever Podcast - November 13, 2023

She Wants A Traditional Man But WILL NOT Take Husbands Last Name？! ｜ Dating Talk #117

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