She WOULD NOT Date A Short BILLIONAIRE？! ｜ Dating Talk #102
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4 hours and 58 minutes
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183.08968
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234
Summary
Molly Little is a 20-year-old porn star from Los Angeles, CA. She started stripping at the age of 13, and has been in the porn scene since she was 15. She's been with me since high school, and I think she's one of the most talented strippers I've ever met. In this episode, we talk about how she got her start in stripping, and what it's like being a porn star.
Transcript
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast. Thank you for tuning in tonight. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me. I appreciate that. We're coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California, every Sunday and Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific. I'm your host, Brian Atlas. I'm joined by my co-host, Kiki.
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My last post was in April, so I'm not going to clog up your feed with bullshit and food posts and that sort of nonsense.
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Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves, so please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
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I'm 20 years old, and I'm a porn star, and I also have an OnlyFans.
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Um, well, I started stripping when I was 18, so 18.
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Okay, and you do solo content, boy, girl, girl, girl, everything?
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Have you ever done, like, a multi-partner scene with, like, seven dudes?
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Yeah, I just did, like, a nine-guy blowbang, so.
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Like, it's the highlight of my porn career so far.
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What would be, like, the ultimate achievement if you're in the adult entertainment industry?
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Actually, last year I was nominated for Best Threesome, so hopefully this year.
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It was really cool, but this year I want to win something like Best Feature or something.
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It's like a, the pinnacle, like, think of Leonardo da Vinci, the painter, right?
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Have you done a scene where you're like, that is my masterpiece?
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I would definitely, I think I've done a couple magnum opus.
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Let me make sure I'm using that word correctly.
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I mean, like, if you want to be real, I don't think I've hit it yet.
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I like the director I work with a lot, but I've also done some like Vixen scenes.
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It is, but honestly, I think gender neutral names are the sexiest.
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And so, okay, you've been doing it for two years.
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Um, I have just as, as, uh, my interrogation of your career will also be as thorough as
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Um, and you're still, what's the company that you're, the, you, well, you are involved
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Um, I'm sponsored by Young LA and Gorilla Mind.
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And the first one's a merch company, the other one's supplements, correct?
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You also, you do, uh, I didn't have a chance to really take a look at it, but you also have
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Yeah, I have a couple, not like crazy amounts on like TikTok.
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There's like one video that blew up that was about it.
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And then I do like some brand deals on like Instagram.
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And so you're a student, you, do you go to this city college or the university?
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I'm 20 years old and I'm also a fitness slash lifestyle influencer.
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I'm 26 and I'm a model and I also work for a hotel.
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I'm Kaylin and I'm a student and I'm 18 years old.
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FDG, thank you very much for the gifted 50 memberships.
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Is it going to be, is it going to be, it's a, that is a hat trick.
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Levandowski for the hat trick and somehow he's put it in.
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Uh, primarily, I'm a follower of Christ, but professionally, um, I'm a mechanical engineer.
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I mean, you're very polite for gifting members.
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So, I mean, of course, I'm not going to, I'm not going to rag on that.
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But, uh, yeah, um, and I am a competitive power lifter.
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I, I missed the previous part for work, I think you were saying.
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Mechanical engineer, uh, 27, and professional power lifter?
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And you told me before the show that because your, uh, what is it, the three lifts or the
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You get, uh, so when you go to a meet, you, uh, get three attempts at all three lifts.
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And they take your best lift and they total all that up.
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Um, and they split up into weight classes and they, uh, if there is like discrepancies
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in the weight class, not discrepancies, but like if someone ties in a weight class, they'll
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go by dot score, which is like an adjusted score.
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It takes into account like, uh, like your gender, what kind of lifter you are, um, and a bunch
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So there can be kind of like an objective metric for say myself.
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And if someone here was a power lifter and they competed, I would be able to compare
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Well, I'm asking because, uh, you told me that because you lift over a certain threshold
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So since I can lift so much weight more than anybody here, uh, my opinion.
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So, I mean like, wait, we got, we got to see the guns later.
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Last, if you guys do want to see, they, they did a double buy last show and they're pretty,
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So anyway, since I am the strongest person in the room, I, my opinion automatically just
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So just to, just to kind of put that out there.
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I, are you just threatening all the women here with violence?
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Uh, while, while she's gone, Nick, make sure that she helps you find the photo of her father
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who happened to be a very famous musician in the 80s.
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Uh, Nick, if you can find, just on a Google tab.
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Fuck, what's the, should we, do we tell the audience who your father is?
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I actually listened to it yesterday in preparation.
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What's their big hit song that came out three years ago?
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In any case, then Guns N' Roses was recommended to me.
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Fate, it seems, has brought this together again.
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Let me see if I can pull up the lyrics, because I need a little prompt.
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Wait, I'm trying to remember his last name, Robin.
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I knew right from the beginning that you would end up winning.
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Before I have everyone do their relationship status stuff, okay, I got to address something
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I mean, okay, we had seven flakes and no-shows this episode.
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Uh, and we have at least, like, two or three every single episode, almost without fail.
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And if it happened once in a blue moon, it's like, whatever, who cares?
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But it happens nearly every show, and it kind of constantly fucks us over, and it's not
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fair to the other guests, because sometimes, luckily today, we had some people come in
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Uh, so, sometimes, guys, if we're ever late for a show, typically, it's almost always due
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And, like, we've done over 100 shows, maybe five shows we've done, no flakes.
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So, first off, those of you who, like, showed up, thank you, guys, really appreciate you.
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Um, this is not directed at any of you, um, but, uh, so, yeah, we'll get flaking last
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minute, canceling, needing help with logistics, oh, my car broke down.
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And then, sometimes that's bullshit, they just want out, sometimes it's actually their
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car broke down, so I'm handling the logistics, let me see if I can get somebody to drive
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And, actually, um, we were, Mason, Mason, right?
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Yeah, we were, uh, we were trying to coordinate last night at midnight.
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Yeah, it was like, okay, so, I'm, uh, so, in my mind, I have to wake up for work at,
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like, 6.30 a.m., and it's, like, 1 o'clock in the morning, and we're coordinating, trying
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to figure out if I can give these girls a ride, because their car broke down, or something
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Yeah, so, and so, he was kind of close proximity to them, so I was like, okay, let's see if
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we can get them a ride, maybe, okay, your car broke down, I mean, that, you can still come
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In any case, um, so we're, I'm always scrambling to try to help people get things figured out,
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so I already put in, like, before we even do the show, I've already put in a full work
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day, like, eight-hour day before we even do the show.
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So, um, in any case, uh, I'm pretty sure it was bullshit, because they were posting stories,
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they were, um, like, I was, I reached out within five minutes of getting that message
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They're posting stories, they're posting posts, and, uh, so we have some, we, we, we did a
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We have to cancel, I'm sorry, it's so last minute.
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Like, if you, if you get this without getting any other information from them, does it sound
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In any case, because, like, at 11.30, like, you're, there's no, as far as I know, you don't,
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like, a mechanic, you gotta do that during business hours.
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In any case, sorry till last minute, I had to put my car in the shop last minute AF,
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and then Uber to get from San Clemente to Santa Monica is unheard of, and I said, we
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got some girls who can pick you up, can you still make it?
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Anyways, there, there's a bunch more back and forth, so apparently her car's in the shop.
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So, actually, before we go to the next image, so I'm saying, okay, look, we got girls who
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can drive you, we have Mason who can drive you, who's not a girl, but, um, let me buy
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Here's, and I, I'm like, okay, here's the train, uh, San Juan Capistrano to Goleta.
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We, I'll buy you the, both of you the train tickets.
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Um, now, now, you might say, Brian, you might say, Brian, well, hold on, she's in the passenger
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I will have you know, she has flipped, she has flipped the, the, the, the image.
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It looks like she's in the passenger, because I know, because of the tattoo.
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See, I'm, this is kind of almost stalker shit, but okay.
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Oh, I was just about to say, Brian's concerning.
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I'm just saying, look, I just, I, I said it, I looked at the Instagram stories.
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Um, I just, I, I just had to, I get, and there, I put them in the thumbnail, and I didn't have
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Okay, um, yeah, we got two more photos, I think.
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Um, so we need to, okay, that's one of the girl, oh, you can, no, that's it, that's it,
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Well, that, okay, so this is an old photo, but this was the photo I used in the thumbnail,
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and I, I just, uh, you know, I, I want to, uh, make a little comment, reaction, uh, you
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know, for, you know, just, so I, before, I know we're kind of doing this out of order, normally
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I ask everyone's relationship status, but this is opening up to the panel, and then, um, so that's
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one photo, let me see, we're, sorry, I'm trying to catch up in my notes here, uh, what do
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She's got plastic surgery, she's got a septum piercing, and I don't know if, I don't know
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about lip filler, so my question is, um, this is for you, Mason, would you date a girl?
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Who wore this much makeup with septum nose piercing, face filters, uh, maybe lip fillers,
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and fake boobs, and blasted full sleeves at, and to the rest of the panel, tattoos, sorry,
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I'm, it's taking me like 10 minutes to get to the fucking point.
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To the panel, tattoos in general, pro, uh, red flag, green flag, do you like them, do
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You think it's a red flag if, by the way, are you, uh, what's your orientation, are you
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Um, if you're asking me, I would say no, but if you're asking my ex, I would say yes.
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I mean, the tattoos are not where I would say the red flag comes from, but.
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I would say there's probably some other things that I would say.
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So yeah, just around the table, do you, do tattoos, are you attracted to them, red flag,
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I don't think I would date a man without tattoos.
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I mean, I don't think a man that doesn't have any tattoos would date me, so it kind of goes
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There's plenty of tattoo-free men that would date you.
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I have no tattoos, and I've, I've dated women with tattoos.
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I feel like that constitutes a fairly large amount of tattoos.
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But like on the scale, yeah, okay, you don't have like just a little heart tattoo on your
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wrist, but you don't have like, you're not blasted with face tattoos.
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I mean, but to be honest, I'm like eventually going to be like neck down.
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Oh, so you're considering a neck slash face tattoo.
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If I'm very, very, very well off at some point, I'll do my neck.
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I did say I would never touch my hands, and then I did, so.
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With any girl here, whatever logo tattoo, we'll pay for it.
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Depending on the size and the location, it certainly can be a negotiation.
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It has to be somewhere where you may semi-regret.
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Actually, should we negotiate this shit right now?
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I think you asked probably the most expensive person.
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I wouldn't do it for any amount of money, but...
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And I personally don't care, as long as it's not, like, a stupid tattoo.
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Like, I don't know, like, an ex-girlfriend's name or something like that.
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I love tattoos, but people with tattoos don't seem to like me, so...
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I kind of just chill with what I can get, you know?
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You have tattoos, but people with tattoos don't like you.
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A majority of the people that I've dated do not have tattoos.
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You just haven't had luck with those with tattoos.
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I think that they're, like, very attractive, and, like, I want tattoos.
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But if you don't, like, that's fine, like, it's chill.
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I don't like it when people are, like, oh, I would never put anything in my body like
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There are verses in the Bible that discuss tattoos.
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So, in Leviticus, there are verses in particular that say that any markings on the body is a no-go.
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But I think in context of that passage in particular, it's the context in which they were discussing
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And so, throughout the rest of scripture, you don't see that other places.
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So, I'm not convinced by one verse in Leviticus.
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I mean, there might be other places that discuss it, but there's one verse in Leviticus in particular
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I don't have any tattoos, and if I were to get one, it would have to be something extremely
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Actually, the one tattoo I probably will get is my wedding ring.
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It is very unlikely that I will ever get tattoos.
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I'm not opposed to dating somebody with tattoos, though.
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Well, you're going to have to pay me $10,000 for that shit.
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Like, okay, you guys, some of you have met me before.
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Do I seem like the type of guy to have tattoos?
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What if I just had, like, a tramp stamp or some shit?
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Actually, you might be like, yeah, I'd see that.
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Honestly, most guys that I know who wear flannels, I feel like they have tattoos.
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Also, I don't usually go looking at guys in the tramp stamp area.
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Where are you viewing men with, like, their tramp stamp area exposed, Ryan?
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As far as dating, I'd say I, tattoos are not a deal breaker, but I would say I lean towards
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having a slight preference towards women without tattoos.
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But it's not, like, I think there's also a scale to it.
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Like, if, obviously, like, if all the way from, like, fully covered, there's some people
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that try to, like, 99% tattoo their entire body.
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Like, that probably, that's no, and then it starts becoming more of a yes as you get
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How many people have you seen with their entire body tattoos?
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Well, I'm just trying to articulate a point, but not many, obviously.
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On the scale of, like, all of the tattoos versus none of the tattoos, like, the less tattoos
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they have, the more likely you'll probably date them.
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Well, yeah, obviously, you're not going to look at a girl that has tattoos and be like,
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she has no potential in ever talking to me, ever.
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Yeah, like, the amount of tattoos, like, the amount of tattoos you have, for example,
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like, that wouldn't be, like, 100% deal breaker, no go.
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I'd obviously want to further assess someone's...
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Where do you draw the line between, like, tattoos that are, like, acceptable versus,
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too many tattoos, and what does too many tattoos represent for you?
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Like, what do you think is going to be the negativities of a woman having too many tattoos?
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Well, I mean, I think some of it could be, like, a snap judgment about the person.
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You know, I think, depending on your socioeconomic position, on one hand, you have, like, people
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They can also have tattoos, but then, like, people who are...
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Oh, God, I'm going to sound kind of classist here.
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I think if you're economically, you're not doing well, it says something about your financial
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If you're, like, getting tattoos, it's like, you're struggling financially, but you're, like,
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Like, you just don't know where to properly spend your money.
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As a long-term partner, if you're making poor financial decisions, like, if...
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I mean, if it's just, like, you want to fuck the person and they're attractive, cool.
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So, for, like, long-term potential, I am looking at, like, various non-physical related things.
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So, if you are making decisions with your money that you're struggling with money, but,
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okay, let me get fully blasted in tattoos, I'm like, you're not very prudent when it comes
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You have people who are extremely wealthy who can obviously, like, and they have a lot
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So, it's not necessarily indication of, like, poor financial decision-making.
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Well, like, for me personally, I have a mushroom tattoo here.
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I'm having it removed, but I got it when I turned 18 so that people wouldn't think I
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You could just, like, you know, you could have just...
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Here, we'll wrap up the point on this, but there's one more photo.
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Bigger, bigger, make it bigger, make it bigger.
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Wait, a little scroll out one, scroll out one, scroll up, scroll up, scroll up, scroll
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So, this is the other girl that was gonna be on.
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It's not visible, but I think she has four face tattoos, right?
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I would say, me personally, and Mason, you're free to weigh in, like, I wouldn't date a girl.
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She probably wouldn't, but it's probably for the best.
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Yeah, but it's not like I'm trying to clown on her.
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But what I'm saying is, just based off of the tattoos, to me, it's too much.
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Yeah, I mean, so, of course, when weighing in on the subject, I come at it with a biblical
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perspective, but just as a regular dude's perspective, if I look at a woman, and she
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has a bunch of plastic surgeries, lip fillers, tattoos, all of this stuff, what, like, what
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happened where their self-image was so terrible, where they had to change all of this stuff
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They're made in the image of God, and God made them, and all of a sudden, they're just
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I think that he made me incorrectly, and I have a better version of myself than God has
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And that's, honestly, it's more heartbreaking for me to see that than anything else.
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I mean, it's not a deal-breaker if they have certain plastic surgeries, but if it's like
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a persistent course in their life where they're constantly changing things, I don't want that.
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Would I get one, or would I date someone with them?
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Because I'm not going to let something, like...
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Obviously, it would be, like, a no to my book, because that person probably has a lot of life
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experience that's led them to that point where they feel like they need to get tattoos on
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their face to project who they are outwardly, but that doesn't mean that they're a bad person
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All right, let's move on to the actual show now, sort of, kind of.
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Let me just make sure I got through all my notes really quick.
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So, we're going to go around the table once more.
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How long have you been single, if you're single?
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I think it was, like, a year and a half, maybe two years.
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I think we've been dating for about six months now, but we've been friends for, like, two years.
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We've been together for three months, and this is my first and only serious relationship, so also my longest.
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Um, you said last time he's one of the trend bros?
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Yeah, I accidentally started a bit of a scandal last time, so...
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Um, do you remember how you asked me if he was on trend?
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It was public knowledge, but, um, people were surprised that the trend twins had done trend.
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People were surprised when the liver king took steroids.
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I'm not really confident in people's, like, ability to assess whether someone's taking steroids.
00:36:12.740
I noticed on your Instagram, you guys have been dating for three months.
00:36:32.540
Um, I mean, we were, we waited until, where's my brain going?
00:36:39.240
I mean, he gets posted on my Instagram story and, like, my Snapchat and stuff.
00:36:42.720
That being said, um, since this is not only my first boyfriend, but I never thought I would
00:36:49.280
date somebody with a bigger social media presence than me.
00:36:52.820
So, I'd prefer to keep each other, like, separate as our own beings on our own platforms.
00:36:58.680
I prefer not to be known as Chris Tren's girlfriend and remain Killjoy.
00:37:08.900
Uh, well, you have to go to the talent page and then just pull up...
00:37:12.340
I can't believe you don't know my Instagram handle off the top of your head.
00:37:30.400
Wait, so you said that you never foresaw yourself dating a guy who has more social media following
00:37:37.700
Um, at least for our presence on social media, since we do fitness, I would tend to stick
00:37:49.460
Like, I would choose to date people who also do fitness.
00:37:52.400
And I would like to date people who do social media just because they understand what comes
00:37:58.980
Wow, I don't want to sound cocky when I say this.
00:38:03.280
The men who have a large presence in the social media, like, fitness industry, are, like,
00:38:12.960
So, if it comes to a group, like, my age, it tends to be less of a following.
00:38:24.660
And you're 19, and you've already amassed a pretty big following.
00:38:28.660
You feel that probably a lot of the guys around your age haven't quite gotten to your level
00:39:27.360
I mean, technically, in the eyes of God, you're single until you're married.
00:39:38.640
This is when I was a model, and I have come far past these days.
00:39:42.880
I'm also a minor in all of these, so I don't know if you want to...
00:39:51.000
It is on your public Instagram, so it's probably fine.
00:40:02.800
If you click on my Instagram story right now, he's on there.
00:40:13.600
He has a picture of me on the Trend Twins page, but it's just a picture of me and then
00:40:44.820
Can you imagine me taking eight plates off of every single lift and then loading them
00:40:52.660
There is a clip of me in the back being like, woohoo, but that's it.
00:41:09.280
I was thinking that when you said you're the strongest person in the room, I was like,
00:41:14.260
His twin brother holds, or was going to hold the bench world record for his weight
00:41:38.320
Because I feel people who are both have a big presence on social media, maybe you guys
00:41:42.540
had a conversation, like, hey, maybe we try to keep things a little under wraps, a little
00:41:48.080
more private, because I, at least for me, and, I mean, I don't have as big of an Instagram
00:41:54.520
Like, I would never, like, I would never put, like, my girlfriend on the show, I would never
00:42:00.240
put a girlfriend, like, I would never post a girlfriend, because even if she was also
00:42:06.000
in social media, too, I'd just be like, let's privacy, people are going to fuck with her,
00:42:13.240
Yeah, for sure, but, I mean, our following tends to be the same group of people, so it's
00:42:19.380
more, I haven't really gotten anything but support, to be honest, but, yeah, I mean, we
00:42:24.100
had been talking for about a year before we made anything public, we had the conversation
00:42:40.880
No, I was, I was in a two-year relationship, and then got cheated on.
00:42:50.100
So, I'm not sure, I'm just kind of, like, viewing the market right now, seeing what's
00:42:56.500
So, you were, you were in a two-year relationship, when did, but you say it's complicated, so
00:43:03.360
I mean, I want to forgive him, but it's, like, very hard, because the way he cheated,
00:43:10.880
was, like, really unforgivable, if that makes sense.
00:43:18.000
Like, he went to Mexico with all of his friends, and he had sex with, like, a random person
00:43:25.880
Isn't, isn't that normally how cheating goes, though, like?
00:43:28.220
But it wasn't just, like, oh, he was talking to another girl, like, he, like, full on and
00:43:36.100
Okay, so, like, it wasn't just, like, little quotations or whatever, like, he went the
00:43:51.180
Oh, and you were, okay, so you're 18, so this was, like, you met in high school.
00:43:54.420
Yeah, well, I'll be 19 in, like, two weeks, but.
00:44:07.680
So, have, you said you want to forgive him, but in this month period since he's cheated
00:44:21.400
I, like, haven't blocked him on anything or anything like that.
00:44:24.440
Like, just, like, the occasional, like, I did this today, I did that today.
00:44:30.740
Not, like, talking, talking, just, like, maybe, like, every, like, once a week or something.
00:44:38.140
Because you just said, oh, I, like, kind of very low-level updates.
00:44:47.620
More of, like, oh, I got a job today, or this, I just finished, I just started school.
00:44:55.480
Like, does he know that you know that he cheated on you?
00:45:05.480
And, wait, so, did you guys have an argument, I assume?
00:45:36.300
Oh, I thought there was, where's the American flat hat?
00:45:42.440
Actually, I'm not going to fuck up my hair for this now, fine.
00:45:50.680
What's, wait, I'm going to make up a name for your boyfriend.
00:46:03.680
I'm not going to do an accent because that might get me in trouble.
00:46:45.400
Wait, you've been dating him for two years and your reaction was just, I mean, I assume
00:46:59.280
Yeah, well, if we're counting, like, middle school.
00:47:03.920
In middle school, they also went to Mexico and cheated on you?
00:47:06.060
What the fuck are 13-year-olds going to Tijuana for?
00:47:20.400
I'm just kind of dealing with a lot, a lot of emotions.
00:47:25.320
The conversation that you did end up having, what was the duration of the cheating conversation?
00:47:33.460
He just kind of, like, he, like, came to my house and was just like, I fucked up, da-da-da-da-da,
00:47:40.060
and I was like, okay, and then I, like, went back inside.
00:47:45.660
Do you want to reconcile this relationship or no?
00:47:48.460
I mean, I would, but it's just the trust issue, because he's in a frat, too.
00:48:00.600
It doesn't matter how it happened, who it was, if he got pegged.
00:48:06.540
Well, getting pegged is somehow more dehumanizing.
00:48:11.240
That's like, yeah, it's like completely emasculating.
00:48:14.460
I think we're forgetting that that was a made-up part.
00:48:18.980
What I think is that you need to give us his address.
00:48:21.860
I know three really strong people that can beat the shit out of him.
00:48:29.580
The whatever podcast does not endorse any violence for infidelity, even if pegging was involved.
00:48:49.960
I've been, like, stalking the Instagrams and stuff, but, like...
00:48:59.700
No, I'm pretty sure I'm, like, banned from all those.
00:49:03.220
I think I, like, tried to, like, catfish people when I was, like, 14 or something.
00:49:13.020
I was about to say, we're not going to go to this house anymore.
00:49:16.140
Were you doing that whole, like, Venmo Me and...
00:49:24.060
There used to be this thing, like, a couple years ago on dating apps.
00:49:26.720
It was, like, send me $5 on Venmo and find out, winky face.
00:49:42.700
There was a phrase, but a lot of girls were doing it, and then a lot of them ended up getting
00:50:59.880
Like, we get videos of, like, bears and mountain lions and shit.
00:51:05.640
Once you get further towards the mountains, there's a lot of wildlife that comes down.
00:51:21.660
If you ever are, like, hiking and shit, and have you...
00:51:31.480
Well, if you ever find yourself in the position, Brandon's got your back.
00:52:00.420
If you're single, how long have you been single?
00:52:04.040
I'm currently in a relationship, and my longest relationship before this was like a few days.
00:52:12.400
Last time you were on, I think you had not been in, like, a relationship, right?
00:52:21.000
How long has this been a relationship and gone?
00:53:05.940
Do you think you could ever see yourself dating a guy who doesn't...
00:53:27.280
The physique isn't as important as what comes with lifting, like, mentally.
00:53:39.900
Well, we're dating, so yeah, he's my boyfriend.
00:53:42.640
Speaking of Instagrams, Nick, can you pull up Ariel's Instagram, please?
00:53:48.820
This is your longest relationship that you have ever had.
00:54:17.400
That recent post is literally from more than four days ago.
00:54:26.900
Or as fit than you, but just obviously he's a guy, so he's going to be...
00:54:39.580
Well, no, there is a boyfriend, but you haven't posted him.
00:54:42.260
Have you guys had that conversation, too, or are you guys going to post each other?
00:54:45.620
I mean, it's inevitable, so it's going to happen.
00:54:48.680
But, I mean, we posted each other on Snapchat, but Instagram is, like, a whole other thing
00:54:54.820
because it's a lot more people taken a lot more seriously.
00:55:03.120
We've talked about it, but there's no, like, oh, we're going to do this and this.
00:55:11.060
I've been single since last December, and my longest relationship was roughly seven months.
00:55:23.200
I'm single, and I have been single since, like, my junior year boyfriend.
00:55:27.420
So, I just, like, a lot of talking stages, but I can never, like, actually pull through.
00:55:53.960
Well, can you tell us a little bit about your situation and what you're looking for?
00:56:36.560
And do you think there's anything that could pull you off that path?
00:57:24.820
I do want to go around a couple more questions related to that, but...
00:57:34.000
My philosophy, best summed up by the only advice my father ever gave me.
00:57:40.100
Son, whenever you meet a beautiful woman, just remember, somewhere there's a bloke who's
00:58:00.520
I mean, the best saying his father ever gave him.
00:58:07.760
I mean, of all the things my father's ever said to me, that...
00:58:17.940
I think, well, I think what he's trying to get at is, I think, I've heard a similar
00:58:23.760
saying before, is I think a lot of guys will see, like, a really beautiful woman and
00:58:31.400
But I think, oftentimes, that's kind of a saying that you'll hear, like, maybe a guy
00:58:36.040
tell another guy, be like, yo, there's some guy who's been with her, like, who's dated
00:58:46.280
Like, you could say the same shit about a dude.
00:58:48.220
I mean, just, like, statistically, I mean, like, women in the world, if the more beautiful
00:58:56.100
they are, probably the more men that are going to have offered themselves up to them.
00:59:00.940
And, I mean, statistically speaking, they've probably been with a bunch of dudes.
00:59:33.040
Brian, I'm back, and I would like to ask the panel once again.
00:59:35.240
If I'm worthy, I'm early 30s, no kids, decent income, army vet, Norse pagan, 5'2", and modern
00:59:45.280
Okay, so he's 5'2", early 30s, no kids, decent income, was in the army, Norse pagan.
01:00:03.260
Um, for a date, yes, I would go on the date, but just based off those notes, I would probably
01:00:19.840
It's the height, it's the age, and it's the income, and it's the army veteran, and I have
01:00:29.780
So, income's a problem, age is a problem, the army veteran thing is a problem.
01:00:36.900
I'm curious, why is the army veteran thing a problem?
01:00:39.640
I feel like most guys in the army don't understand girls like me, and they have a different perspective
01:01:06.320
Like, I'm very spiritual, and I believe in energy, but I don't really believe in, like,
01:01:16.360
But people in the army, people of army veterans, they're put in a position where, like, they
01:01:21.380
have to be in situations where they're dealing with some really dark stuff every day, and
01:01:25.680
I think a lot of those men turn to religion because it helps them deal with it, and that
01:01:30.480
can become very close to their heart because it helps them get through, like, the toughest
01:01:35.500
And I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who's going to fundamentally disagree
01:01:46.500
I mean, I don't know the statistics on, you know, people's religious inclination based
01:01:53.960
on their military background, but you can certainly be in the military and not be...
01:02:02.960
Well, I guess he says he's Norse pagan, but I don't even know what that means.
01:02:18.060
So, obviously, religion is off the table here with this guy in particular.
01:02:26.620
I kind of agree with you on the fact that army...
01:02:29.740
Not army veteran, but say somebody in the army, it would make sense that you wouldn't
01:02:35.940
want to date them because they're probably, like, if...
01:02:38.680
So, if they're deployed, then they're going to spend vast amounts of time without you.
01:02:48.080
I mean, one, that shows a dedication to something greater than yourself, which I think is important.
01:02:58.000
So, not everyone who goes into the army has this altruistic goal that I'm going to serve
01:03:02.900
a greater purpose than myself, but that, generally speaking, it's kind of pounded into you while
01:03:11.480
you're in the army, and some kind of in the military, where you have to obey the people
01:03:17.100
that are above you and serve something that is greater than yourself.
01:03:48.700
If this girl thinks that I'm 5'7", she has no idea of height and measurement.
01:04:08.600
And you go to the doctor, they take your height?
01:04:13.060
If you wanted me to say that, I would say that.
01:04:26.100
What's the bare minimum height for you, for a guy?
01:04:38.180
If a guy's, like, 5'11", is it still, like, hard no?
01:04:50.040
What if he's 5'0", but he's fucking slang in a giant Coke can?
01:04:54.700
I probably wouldn't date him, but I would do content with him.
01:05:04.040
So, if they're not over 6 feet, they have to make up for it with their extremity.
01:05:20.620
Don't you market yourself, oh, I'm a petite adult.
01:05:49.620
Carly, can you measure our good friend Molly here?
01:06:59.160
One is because I don't like to be taller than the boy that I'm dating.
01:07:09.280
Okay, I want them to be 6 foot because it kind of triggers like a submission kink.
01:07:16.900
Like, I want to know that they're like bigger than me, stronger than me, can like handle
01:07:21.500
Even though I can handle things perfectly on my own, if I have a boyfriend, I shouldn't
01:07:31.740
So wait, if the boyfriend is 6 feet versus 5'11", the 6 foot boyfriend's magically going
01:07:38.380
When you say handle, though, are you talking physical violence or what are you talking about?
01:07:47.440
I mean, I know plenty of guys who are below 6 feet that could probably beat up anybody
01:07:56.480
Well, I would hope they could beat up a group of women.
01:07:58.460
Well, I'm talking to myself as well, so I also practice jiu-jitsu.
01:08:03.740
And there are plenty of guys that I know who are like 50 pounds lighter than me and shorter
01:08:18.100
Ladies on the panel, do not follow Molly Little's career trajectory.
01:08:22.400
Having said that, Molly, check your of now, see how many subs you have now, and by end
01:08:31.240
If it is more than 10, shame on you idiots in the chat.
01:08:49.400
Do you know how many, do you have your phone on you?
01:08:56.340
Can you give us an update before the show ends?
01:09:02.920
And if it's more than 100, I'm deleting my channel.
01:09:14.480
How do you check how many, oh yeah, 2.6 thousand fans.
01:09:26.380
Oh, maybe it doesn't do a breakdown by like a first digit, second digit.
01:09:36.560
Well, this was, okay, this was the original chat.
01:09:38.220
He was saying, early 30s, no kids, decent income, army vet, pagan, 5'2".
01:09:44.220
Um, does he stand, assuming you're single, if those of you in relationships, does he stand
01:10:11.760
That's going to be a no for the pagan and the height.
01:10:19.100
And so that was kind of the holistic, the whole picture.
01:10:24.980
So just on that sole metric, yay, nay, deal breaker.
01:10:34.300
Okay, so at least you're, that's pretty, I mean, that's fair.
01:10:38.520
And the average male height, I believe, is 5'9".
01:11:46.120
I often say I don't like ideals because it's like, well, ideally, I would date a 10 out
01:11:53.760
of 10 woman who's like a billionaire and awesome in every single way and gives me like a $10
01:12:26.140
Do you still have that photo of Robin pulled up?
01:13:10.560
And like height, like top end, like I don't really mind if she's taller than me.
01:14:05.800
Like, I'm trying to get with a dwarf, just saying.
01:14:12.860
I was going to say, the feature dancing agency I work with, they also do, like, midget wrestling.
01:14:18.180
I think that I have actually been to midget wrestling.
01:14:25.660
The politically correct term is either dwarf or little person.
01:14:34.600
That's just what they like to be called, you know?
01:14:46.460
Oh, but I thought she was involved in, like, adult entertainment.
01:15:03.220
Yeah, I think it's, like, sexy midget wrestling.
01:15:07.160
Are you sure they self-referred to it like that?
01:15:24.600
I don't know if I'm just, like, too familiar with the woke shit, but I thought they preferred
01:15:37.300
Since you ladies have height preferences, majority of men prefer women with natural looks.
01:15:43.020
Would you mind taking your layers of makeup off for the show to show your natural skin?
01:15:50.200
I do have some Neutrogena makeup for me over here, just, like, ready to go.
01:15:54.480
I feel like a certain amount of men think women get offended by this, but everyone has preferences.
01:16:02.420
That's what dating is, picking people based on your preferences.
01:16:05.660
Actually, I don't think you're really wearing much makeup.
01:16:14.280
I just have Vaseline on them, and it makes them look a little darker, but yeah.
01:16:33.060
So we've definitely had shows where either I or another guy will say,
01:16:37.160
oh, we prefer no makeup or a little makeup, and oftentimes, not always,
01:16:47.240
but if you saw how ugly we actually were and I...
01:16:50.220
But also, after you start dating somebody for a significant amount of time,
01:16:54.920
you're going to eventually see them without makeup.
01:16:56.900
Well, I understand wanting to, from the get-go, know what...
01:17:00.640
I mean, I guess it depends on the setting, but, like, if I meet somebody at the gym,
01:17:25.000
So you're not going to take it, you're not going to shave it, but makeup is a woman thing.
01:17:34.640
If I was dating a guy who had a beard, like, what happens if you're two years in
01:17:39.760
If you didn't like it, I'd say grow it back, I guess.
01:17:45.300
What happens if they get rid of it forever, like, three years in?
01:17:47.820
I mean, they're not, like, getting laser on their face.
01:17:50.960
I mean, you have a conversation with them and be like,
01:18:02.160
I mean, the beard to makeup comparison is not a, like, one-to-one comparison.
01:18:10.360
Because, one, a beard is something that naturally grows.
01:18:13.960
Makeup is something that is artificial that you're intentionally putting on your face,
01:18:18.860
Whereas a beard really only covers a certain portion of it.
01:18:22.860
Also, I would argue that, I would argue that when it comes to beauty, right,
01:18:33.980
what is going to contribute more to someone being more attractive or less attractive?
01:18:38.440
The top half of their face or the bottom half of their face?
01:18:41.440
I would argue it's the top half of their face versus the bottom.
01:18:50.740
If you got, like, ten chins, then what else is going to...
01:18:54.620
Lips are really sexy, especially, like, girl lips.
01:18:56.220
Yeah, but if a guy has a beard, you can, like, I have a beard, you can still see my lips.
01:19:00.040
Okay, so just the bearded part, not top or bottom half.
01:19:03.660
You just said, is it the top part of someone's face or the bottom part of someone's face?
01:19:06.880
Well, like, if you cut it off at the bottom of the nose, for example,
01:19:09.460
I would argue that when assessing beauty, which one contributes more to someone's physical
01:19:14.200
attractiveness or beauty, I would argue it's the top half of the face.
01:19:24.080
Like, you connect with people by looking at them in the eye.
01:19:29.440
But also, there's girls out there that are like, damn, I really like a good jawline.
01:19:35.100
But it's not, a beard is not a one-to-one comparison to, look, certainly, I think the
01:19:40.080
point you're trying to make is, could a guy with, like, a weak chin or a weak jawline
01:19:47.580
But I don't think it's to the degree of, I'm just going to say it, deceptiveness that
01:19:54.240
This literally reminds me of, like, how they used to say that, like, makeup was witchcraft
01:20:09.020
I think makeup should be illegal for anyone under the age of 18.
01:20:12.740
I think that's way too far and not what America's about.
01:20:20.480
I see where you're coming from, but I feel like that would just make them want to do it
01:20:27.920
Well, and that's also, like, the fun part about becoming a woman is you get to play with
01:20:34.440
Because, I mean, if you think about it, if you get dressed, if you go to a very fancy
01:20:42.720
If you see a woman at a really fancy event that's not wearing makeup, you can tell.
01:20:46.420
And it, like, she kind of doesn't fit into the, I want to say dress code.
01:20:55.660
We should change the way that society views that and make it acceptable, make it socially
01:21:05.940
It's just, it's just like putting on a pair of earrings or putting on a fancy dress.
01:21:15.560
If you had to choose, let's just say we did an equalization where just no women could wear
01:21:22.180
So, there was not this feeling of having to compete or one-upsmanship.
01:21:27.200
Would you opt for a world with no makeup or would you want to keep the makeup?
01:21:37.680
You're comparing yourself to other people and that's why you wear makeup.
01:21:42.500
I'm just saying like dressing appropriately for an event.
01:21:45.100
Makeup is kind of like a fancy thing, I would say.
01:21:47.260
But if no other women were wearing makeup, then you wouldn't be out of place.
01:21:58.740
You sit down and you get dressed all cute and you do your makeup.
01:22:02.900
I don't think there's anything wrong with wearing makeup.
01:22:07.500
Imagine what you could do with that extra 20 minutes.
01:22:23.100
But say we lived in a world where makeup never existed.
01:22:26.360
I think that we would all be a lot healthier for sure.
01:22:30.340
If you're conscious of it or not, the way that you do your makeup is modeled after something
01:22:35.580
So if makeup had never existed, that's a different story than whether we could take it away or
01:22:41.360
If makeup had never existed, we would not be having this conversation.
01:22:43.360
So, like, I'm not anti-makeup, but I am kind of...
01:22:53.500
So I would say makeup should be the exception to your daily life, not the rule.
01:22:58.560
If you wear a full face every day, I think that perpetuates something.
01:23:05.460
But I think wearing a full face of makeup every day perpetuates an issue you have with
01:23:09.720
That being said, we go out once a month to a nice fancy dinner.
01:23:12.660
We want to put on a nice dress to make no dress.
01:23:16.060
See, I think that even if makeup was taken away, like, if makeup was made illegal, I think
01:23:27.240
No, I think that if makeup was made illegal, women would find other ways to make themselves
01:23:33.940
feel better about themselves, like through their clothes, through their hair.
01:23:43.300
We should get rid of all that other stuff, too.
01:23:45.800
But banning makeup is not going to ban the self-image issue.
01:23:48.220
But the reason I said that, I said specifically for minors, but especially in today's age
01:23:53.140
with the rise of social media and everything, I think kids have such an urge to portray themselves
01:24:04.100
They're losing some of their youth, but I think it's very unhealthy.
01:24:06.960
They're putting themselves out into the world in inappropriate ways for what they're mentally
01:24:22.860
If I see a woman at one of my business conferences without makeup, doesn't smell bad, has great
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dental hygiene, shy, not fat, nice butt, never had history of promiscuity, wife material,
01:24:36.100
OF slash torn stars, big thoughts showing their buttocks off for the thirst equal cell.
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He's saying that if he saw a generally attractive woman that had good hygiene and presented herself
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well but just didn't wear any makeup, he would be attracted to that.
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He presents themselves very femininely, doesn't show themselves off provocatively to the public.
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You wouldn't know, most girls who do OnlyFans, you wouldn't know that they do OnlyFans.
01:25:08.140
The key to what I just said was the non-promiscuity, not showing themselves off to the public.
01:25:17.120
But how would you know that about a person when you're just looking at her?
01:25:19.380
I mean, they do OnlyFans and by definition they're showing themselves off.
01:25:24.220
Yeah, but how are you going to know that when you're just looking at someone?
01:25:26.320
Well, you're not going to know and then you're going to talk to them or look them up.
01:25:29.600
You're not going to know whether someone's like a bad person or a good person by looking at them,
01:25:34.440
Another key statement that he said was wife material.
01:25:41.580
But why does doing OnlyFans mean that you can't have a long-term relationship?
01:25:44.640
It's not saying that you can't, but he's not looking for something with you.
01:25:47.860
I would also, I mean, like, I would say the exception, the person who does OnlyFans or participates
01:25:55.420
in some kind of pornographic industry, the exception to the rule is they will find a healthy relationship.
01:26:05.100
I think there is an extreme proclivity for unhealthy relationships in the S-work industry.
01:26:14.560
I mean, if you look at just statistics by themselves, the more promiscuous somebody is, the less likely
01:26:22.820
they're going to have a long-lasting relationship.
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And I think that was designed in us by our creator.
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I mean, you can disagree with me on that, but there is an obvious propensity for us to stay monogamous,
01:26:38.140
stay, I would say, stay sexually inactive before marriage, because at the end of the day, when
01:26:46.140
I get married, and I've never had sex before in my life, but when I get married, I know that
01:26:52.160
I will have the highest likelihood of sustaining a long-term relationship.
01:27:00.420
I think that's pretty irrelevant to the conversation.
01:27:04.140
Yeah, well, it's irrelevant, but also, we can get into this as well.
01:27:07.360
I think having sex before marriage, that's, you are weighing your opinion of the other person
01:27:19.400
So, say I have sex with my girlfriend before I am married to her.
01:27:24.020
I am going to ignore a whole lot of character flaws because she's giving me what I want,
01:27:34.380
Whereas, if I'm waiting and I am looking for, okay, what is, so how does she present herself?
01:27:46.020
Does she seek to please the Lord in all aspects of her life?
01:27:49.400
If I'm having sex with her, I'm going to be more willing to, like, disregard all of those
01:27:58.060
Okay, so you're saying that if you had sex before in marriage, then you would disregard
01:28:03.320
your girlfriend's personality more because you're having sex with her.
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Something that, by definition, clouds the mind of a man.
01:28:16.920
So, I mean, you can obviously have your opinion.
01:28:24.200
But you can have a relationship with sex and still see all of those values, spend quality
01:28:30.600
You know, just because you have sex doesn't mean it's going to take away from any of those.
01:28:36.600
I mean, statistically, if you have sex before...
01:28:39.760
If you have sex before marriage, it decreases your ability to have a long-lasting relationship.
01:28:45.060
Okay, but look, once you're married, you're going to have sex with that person.
01:28:48.720
So, it's going to be a big part of your relationship.
01:28:52.120
When I get married to my wife, I mean, it's game over.
01:28:56.780
But you're saying that once you have sex with her, it's going to take away from...
01:29:04.780
So, there's also an interesting statistic that shows that people who live with each other
01:29:11.100
before marriage actually have a higher likelihood of divorce.
01:29:20.080
It is the mental state of the person or the couple that practices that thing.
01:29:26.180
So, it's not so much like the act of sex is what destroys the relationship.
01:29:33.280
It's usually the number of partners, and it's also the mental state of somebody who is willing
01:29:41.260
Do you think that because that statistic of people who probably are willing...
01:29:47.240
are going to wait until marriage to have sex or don't live together until they're married
01:29:51.360
tends to be more people of religion, which includes divorce as a sin, right?
01:29:56.440
So, I think that that would skew the statistic a bit.
01:30:03.100
So, there are plenty of studies that show that the amount of sexual partners...
01:30:13.620
But that number is not as high as you think it is.
01:30:16.720
It's not like we're talking about people that are in the sexual history.
01:30:17.900
Also, the point that you just made is it actually kind of weighs on to...
01:30:34.640
Generally, those people are going to be Christians.
01:30:49.840
The higher the body count for a woman, the less likely to pair pond with future male partner.
01:30:55.340
Statistically speaking, a virgin woman nor has less than three body count.
01:31:00.180
80% success rate in relationship slash marriage.
01:31:18.480
If being a Christian, not having sex before marriage, not living with somebody...
01:31:27.100
Doesn't that suggest that maybe more people should maybe give heed to what God's word says?
01:31:37.400
I would encourage you when it comes to having sex before marriage or waiting until marriage to have sex
01:31:44.400
to try to make a secular argument because not everyone is religious,
01:31:57.880
So, I understand when people make that argument that you're speaking to a secular audience.
01:32:07.660
But to be intellectually genuine with the people I'm talking to,
01:32:12.460
if I believe that the word of God is the foundation for truth in everything,
01:32:18.780
It would be bad practice for me to pretend like I subscribe to a worldview that doesn't mirror what I believe.
01:32:32.680
Like, in a logical capacity, it would be, I guess, inappropriate of me not to stay true to what I believe is the foundation of truth.
01:32:41.700
Right, but in your efforts to try to convince or have someone change their mind,
01:32:47.900
certainly if they don't subscribe to the same religion that you do,
01:32:53.620
then your appeals to God or to religion are not going to be particularly convincing to the person you're speaking to.
01:33:02.260
It might be true for you that this is the ultimate authority and that this is a very strong motivating factor in how you choose to live your life,
01:33:11.960
but I don't think it's going to be convincing or compelling to somebody who's an atheist.
01:33:18.060
But I also believe that the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword,
01:33:27.240
So, you might not believe that, but I 100% do, and I will live my life.
01:33:32.800
And as I'm talking to people, I will talk in that way.
01:33:41.140
and if you ignore my evidence because of my religious beliefs,
01:33:45.560
I feel like that's probably more a logical fallacy on your end than my end.
01:33:54.040
Wait, can I just have you scoot your mic, like, all the way that way?
01:33:57.640
Yeah, but you don't need to lean, like, we just want,
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because the mic start, like, blocks your face a little bit.
01:34:02.640
So, okay, before we got onto that, we were talking about makeup.
01:34:06.340
Or did you have one thing you want to come into real quick?
01:34:08.600
I think you just misunderstood the point I was making.
01:34:11.440
I agree with you completely that psychologically and biologically,
01:34:15.000
that less bodies before marriage results in 100%.
01:34:18.480
But that being said, I meant that I think that the reason the statistics would be skewed
01:34:22.560
is because people who are religious obviously stick to the Bible,
01:34:27.400
and in the Bible, divorce is frowned upon, correct?
01:34:37.040
The best way to spread the word of God is to reword the message,
01:34:41.560
Without the God part, it's the difference between a good Christian and Bible thumper.
01:34:47.580
Val D.F., thank you very much for your donation.
01:34:51.680
Okay, so before this, we were talking about makeup.
01:34:54.100
I don't know if, did everyone get to weigh in on that?
01:34:58.700
Did you have something further on the makeup conversation?
01:35:03.280
Well, okay, you had made the comparison that, okay, well, guys, they have beards,
01:35:07.300
therefore, that's kind of comparable to, like, women wearing makeup.
01:35:10.140
I mean, I think it's just, like, a sexist argument in general,
01:35:12.800
because now, in 2023, we're at the point where, like, men wore makeup, too.
01:35:21.980
Because you're saying that's sexist, it just, like, realistically,
01:35:26.580
Because a man preferring a woman without makeup is not sexist.
01:35:29.780
It's his preference, just like you can prefer him with or without a beard.
01:35:34.120
I just think it's sexist on the fact that, like, men think that
01:35:37.280
if a woman wears makeup or not, it's going to play a part in her personality.
01:35:49.840
Yeah, it absolutely can be, and it depends on how far you take that.
01:35:53.860
Like, okay, sure, in the, like, pretty much all of us are wearing makeup besides you.
01:36:00.320
This is not, like, how I present myself day to day.
01:36:02.180
There are plenty of women that wear a lot of makeup every single day.
01:36:07.100
And that is what he's, like, what he's commenting on.
01:36:10.080
But I still don't understand, like, what is fundamentally wrong with that.
01:36:14.320
I guess to illustrate the point, do you have a dating profile?
01:36:27.580
Any of the pictures in your profile without makeup?
01:36:35.540
So, I think, generally speaking, most women who present themselves, especially in the dating pool, they present them a false image of who they actually are.
01:37:04.440
Women who are, like, paid to be there, like, escorts.
01:37:14.860
If you take, like, an average guy, he's not, like, hiring women to pose with him.
01:37:20.800
Whereas, like, you take an average girl who goes to college, she probably wears makeup.
01:37:25.720
Like, at least if we're on dating apps, and I haven't been on dating apps in a while.
01:37:32.380
Actually, I still have, like, the shitty Facebook dating app, which, if I'm swiping through, just the first picture, right?
01:37:38.320
But if you don't do a deep dive, maybe you do a deep dive into their profile.
01:37:45.380
I want to say the first photo that you see, which is the eye catcher, 90% of the time, it's going to be makeup.
01:38:01.300
It's deceiving on how you actually look in real life without makeup on.
01:38:05.380
I don't object, like, if they have one or two photos in their profile without makeup, I think that's fair.
01:38:10.960
But if your whole profile on a dating app is, like, pretty heavy makeup and or face filters, that's very deceptive.
01:38:17.940
I mean, like, I understand what you guys are saying.
01:38:25.060
I don't think that when you, no, I don't think that type of deception, like, if it makes a girl confident in herself to wear as much makeup, put as much fill in as she wants.
01:38:37.280
Beaten Cheeks donated $99 to the promiscuous corn star with the simp boyfriend that lets his girl do naughty films with other men.
01:38:45.200
Do you believe you bring value to any man at all?
01:38:48.080
What could you possibly bring to the table to a real man of value that works?
01:38:59.500
Thank you for getting his name right, by the way.
01:39:03.240
I would just like to point out the inverse of that, saying that if my body count and what I do for work is the most important thing about me to you, then you're not the type of partner that I want.
01:39:19.680
Yeah, I just, like, I can see what you guys think, how it's, like, deceptive.
01:39:23.380
But I also think that's, like, a hater perspective.
01:39:27.960
Let them feel comfortable in whatever makeup they feel like and whatever filler, plastic surgery, whatever.
01:39:36.960
Let me, I have to pull up one chat, but I do want to address it.
01:39:42.420
Streamlabs only shows, like, the most recent ten, and it's about to fall off.
01:39:45.700
Fally, not going to lie, a little jealous of how often FTG is able to give such hefty charity so often.
01:39:50.060
Not even for the attention he might be getting, because I usually, it's a she, by the way.
01:39:54.120
I usually donate anonymously, but just how much she is probably helping you.
01:39:59.320
Well, first of all, Fally, you're very supportive last show.
01:40:08.280
So you're saying guys who are kind of opposed to makeup or don't like women who wear makeup, that they are haters?
01:40:15.060
Like, if you have such a problem with it and you're obsessing over the fact that this girl's wearing makeup, she's being deceptive, then you're weird.
01:40:22.760
See, but I don't think they're obsessing over it whatsoever.
01:40:24.980
The reason that this is being brought up is because most, or not most women, but a lot of women that do wear makeup present themselves that way,
01:40:31.760
and then a man sees them either in real life because the dating app profile was deceptive.
01:40:37.920
They see them in person and they're like, I'm not into that.
01:40:40.960
They get hated on for that reason and saying that they don't want that.
01:41:10.980
I guess, like, the near comparison that I can kind of come up with would be...
01:41:17.720
Condoms do not protect you from skin-to-skin infections like the Herpderp, and 70% of cases spread through asymptomatic viral shedding.
01:41:25.380
This is why they don't test for it in adult content.
01:41:38.660
70% of the worldwide population has herpes and HPV.
01:41:43.460
I don't know if it's HSV-1 or HSV-2, but there's the one that...
01:41:55.080
When it comes to the testing that they do, they're not testing the actors for genital herpes or genital HPV.
01:42:02.880
I don't understand why you say they're not testing.
01:42:05.280
Each performer has their own set of database that...
01:42:08.860
If someone wants every single person that they work with to get tested for herpes, then they're not working with anyone who's not getting tested for herpes.
01:42:18.020
But I'm pretty sure, isn't there like a law in California that the people who do work in the adult industry, it's required...
01:42:25.680
I don't know if it's in the same way with a movie...
01:42:27.960
Like the PASS certified, you have to get tested every 14 days?
01:42:30.760
I don't know if it's the same way how in the movies...
01:42:32.580
The film industry set up the MPAA, which is the...
01:42:40.480
It's within the film industry because they wanted to come in and say, we don't want the government to come in and start giving ratings and being a censor board.
01:42:47.960
We're going to establish our own thing before the government comes in and says, hey, you need to start rating films.
01:42:56.360
My understanding, though, I think there is a law in California that you need to be tested.
01:43:00.680
There are laws when it comes to testing, right?
01:43:02.380
Yeah, so the whole industry, you have to have a minimum of a 14-day STD test.
01:43:07.880
They don't test for genital herpes and genital HPV.
01:43:13.600
Well, it's not required, but they do test for it.
01:43:18.180
Well, it's not required, but I'm pretty sure they don't test for it.
01:43:22.420
You can test for it, but you aren't required to test for it.
01:43:30.620
You can go years without having an outbreak, but all along with the way you're spreading it to people.
01:43:36.200
Once infected, you're 7X more likely to contract HIV, have to take antivirals for the rest of your life, and have to disclose to all future partners.
01:43:56.140
You were making a point, right, on the makeup topic?
01:43:58.720
Yeah, so I was going to say that the somewhat mirror comparison to that standpoint would be the reason being, I'll just state the reason behind it, is that men on a baseline level for seeking out partners value youth and beauty, whereas women value a man's ability to protect and provide.
01:44:21.800
So, essentially, that income and net worth add into that, obviously, play a big part in today's society.
01:44:29.200
It would be like if a guy lied about his income or his job to you.
01:44:35.060
Yeah, and clearly that would be a deception that you probably wouldn't look past once you figured out about it.
01:44:42.120
Of course, but I still don't, even though it would make me upset.
01:44:49.460
So, if a guy worked at McDonald's but told you that he was this, like, billionaire finance guy.
01:45:21.160
She actually, she, she's, first off, okay, last show, she was, I'm 100% sure she's fucking trolling.
01:45:30.360
She's just trying to, you know, do her, putting on the show nonsense, whatever.
01:45:35.060
She did tweet a bit about it and she slid into my DMs, but she's fucking trolling.
01:45:39.040
Like, it's a, it's a, I'll have her back on the show, but it's like, it's a gimmick.
01:45:45.240
No, but if a guy, like, significantly lied about his income or, like, his, his occupation to you, you'd, that would, you can't lie to me and say that.
01:45:52.620
I would know when I showed up to the date and he couldn't pay the bill.
01:45:58.940
I mean, so, what you said was, I'm quoting you, that, that, what, what were the exact words?
01:46:07.280
It was, uh, like, putting forth a false, false image, what's the word I'm looking for, is fine.
01:46:26.740
Therefore, I can post all of these fancy cars and women on my arm and my dating profiles and show up to the date, down to the nines, and all this nice stuff, like, showing off, like, oh, look at my life, and, uh, you would just, you'd be so lucky to be in it, and then a few dates later you realize he works at McDonald's.
01:46:47.440
I mean, I'd, I'd be annoyed, but I, honestly, like, I'm not a crazy person, so I would just leave it at that.
01:46:59.220
If a man wants to live his life as a poser, and that's how he feels, like, satisfaction.
01:47:04.980
No, but if he wants to date me, as long as he's willing to keep up that lifestyle and that image, sure.
01:47:14.120
Okay, so, earlier on in the conversation, when the guy, the Norse Pagan, he mentioned something about Decent...
01:47:23.740
60 bodies equals exposure to at least 12 partners who are infected.
01:47:34.620
Anyone sleeping with you should assume there will be a potential trip to the doctor's office.
01:47:46.580
Um, I don't know about, I don't know the body counts of Destiny and Melina.
01:47:53.900
Clearly the person with the highest IQ on the panel works in the adult industry.
01:47:59.020
When you marry your simp in a few years, even with that newfound car, will you still be doing what you do now?
01:48:17.500
Try to be brief because I want to come back to the conversation.
01:48:23.760
I also make a good amount of money, so I'm not gonna, like, leech off you.
01:48:27.660
Um, I care about the way that I look, and I am very supportive.
01:48:32.120
Okay, so the first two you mentioned, as far as what you bring to the table in a romantic relationship, you bring funny and money.
01:48:40.120
Do you think that the, do you think guys are particularly preoccupied with the money you bring and the humor that you bring?
01:48:49.940
Um, I think when you're looking for a genuine relationship, those two things are really important.
01:48:53.860
And money, you guys might disagree with me, but for me personally, I'll make this quick, but for me personally, being financially stable in a relationship is very important.
01:49:06.880
So that you're not bringing anything to the table.
01:49:09.360
Well, that doesn't, that doesn't affect, that affects how you feel in the relationship, but not necessarily how he feels in the relationship.
01:49:22.680
Okay, what, how long have you been dating your boyfriend?
01:49:27.320
What, do you spend money on your current boyfriend?
01:49:32.040
Um, I bought him like a whole new wardrobe to match my stuff for Instagram, and I spent like, well, the stuff was on sale, but I think I spent like $1,300 on it.
01:49:43.660
However, what I would say is, while you might bring your money to the relationship, I would argue most women are not, like, even if you make good money, in the same way that you just said, the guy should pay for the first date.
01:49:54.360
Like, most women, they're not, most women do not share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
01:50:07.140
We're going to, we're going to have to be three months deep in the relationship for me to potentially even reap any benefits of your wealth, which might not even manifest.
01:50:15.460
Because there's even women who are high earners that still don't want to, like, they're either going to want to do 50-50.
01:50:41.520
He also is a glass dealer and he deals Pokemon cards.
01:50:50.500
Um, I'm not, it's not clear to me if, like, most men are, again, particularly preoccupied with a woman's humor or the money she brings to a relationship.
01:51:09.260
But, like, for the plurality of men, they're, those are not the things they're looking for.
01:51:14.260
So what is the ideal thing that most men are looking for?
01:51:18.680
I mean, it is a feminine woman who wants to stand behind their man and support him and his mission.
01:51:27.000
So when I go on a first date, I want to know, okay, well, if I'm on a first date, I will be attracted to them right off the bat.
01:51:36.520
Um, but I want to know, so their values, is their goal to be a, well, one, godly woman, but do they want to support my mission?
01:51:47.940
And that being raise a family, uh, grow together.
01:51:53.500
So that's grow together in godliness, as well as just emotional maturity, maturity in general, how we navigate the world.
01:52:00.280
So I like to look at it as, uh, I will provide the house and she will make it a home.
01:52:07.920
To add on to that, I would say that, um, I agree with everything you said.
01:52:12.580
I don't, I wouldn't say, like, a godly woman is who I am.
01:52:25.400
Gentlemen, stay away from high IQ girls such as Molly here.
01:52:29.220
She literally doesn't bring what men value most.
01:52:46.240
And also in defense, just because you have an education doesn't mean you have a high IQ.
01:53:04.380
Um, but no, what I was going to say is I think that the fact that I have these high unrealistic
01:53:10.180
standards for men that most men don't like, I think that's kind of my screening process
01:53:14.700
for men and a way to protect myself from men who want things for me that I don't want
01:53:21.220
I mean, yeah, you're allowed to have those preferences, but are they ideal?
01:53:30.740
I'm not saying like, I'm saying, okay, let me use the word optimal.
01:53:35.700
So, if we're going for a healthy relationship down the road, what are the qualities you
01:53:48.620
I want to see patients, um, and they have to be kinky.
01:53:54.780
Wait, Nick, did we hide one of the, did one of these get hidden, the, one of the yellow
01:53:59.760
Uh, because we were trying to close at the same time, uh, no, but we might've been clicking
01:54:08.740
close at the same time and we might've closed one of the, no, you're not going to find it
01:54:21.200
So, I guess the, so you want patients, uh, emotional maturity and kinky.
01:54:29.760
What I would, I would say you're missing a large majority of what makes a good man.
01:54:37.360
So, uh, I, I base this in my beliefs, but you see this play out in real life.
01:54:43.800
The, the man can be patient and he can be emotionally mature, but he can also not be a leader, not
01:54:52.320
And those relationships will probably fizzle out because he might be patient and that patience
01:54:57.820
can also just be, he doesn't want like confrontation.
01:55:01.540
He could just say, he could just, wait, what do you, well, that's the wrong one.
01:55:10.920
Uh, yeah, he, he could just, I mean, the patients could just be Matt, the insecurity masquerading
01:55:16.760
as patients and emotional maturity could just be.
01:55:19.540
He, he's not secure enough in his masculinity to voice opinions.
01:55:25.620
So, you're saying the traits that I have named create the ultimate bitch boy.
01:55:41.620
So, I do want to bring it back really quick because you had something, um, Ariel, right?
01:55:54.580
No, no, no, you said it was sexist that men had, I don't want to put words in your mouth,
01:55:59.260
that men dislike makeup or what, what, I don't want to.
01:56:02.160
I think that it's sexist that they have such large opinions on the fact that makeup is deceptive.
01:56:11.320
It's sexist for men to have large opinions on makeup.
01:56:18.460
Don't you have a rather large opinion on a man's height?
01:56:30.320
A lot of these chicks tend to have a god complex slash narcissistic personality.
01:56:36.920
Confirm or deny, do you have a god complex slash narcissistic personality disorder?
01:56:50.760
Because you can't just say that without backing it up.
01:56:53.040
Oh, no, I think this is like, um, a debate that's going, been going on for like a really
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And I think that the fact that men just won't let women be and like, do what makes them happy
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and that they get so pissed off that a woman doesn't look like how she actually look.
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And I'm not saying that it's bad because I'm also superficial, but you can't say that it's not.
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No, no, no, wait, let's hear it, let's hear it.
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I honestly, I kind of like stopped listening halfway, but she's saying men thinking that
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is superficial and then she's saying she's superficial.
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So, she's saying it's wrong for men to be superficial, but then she's superficial, but
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then like men are sexist for caring about makeup, and then she's not sexist for caring about
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Even though they're both preferences, that's what I gathered.
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Yeah, so my under, like, the biggest, like, what I don't understand the most is that the
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fact that you, like, having a preference about a man's height, they can't control that, but
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men having a preference about how much makeup you wear, you can control that.
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That's right, so they should just shut up and find a woman who does not wear makeup.
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So, you're saying, look, okay, I think I get her point of, like, talking about men that
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just go out of their way and talk about those specific topics all the time.
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They make it their personality, so I think she's kind of referring to those men mainly, but
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you're making a generalization of all men and then calling them sexist with them.
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Yeah, I mean, so those guys who, like, their whole personality is, I hate women, these
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are the reasons why, and makeup is one of those reasons, yeah, they probably are sexist.
01:58:50.540
But it doesn't discount the truth that makeup can be used very deceptively, and oftentimes
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You don't think it's wrong to be deceptive in that way.
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I don't think it's wrong to wear makeup or to put filters on your photos.
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You did say you didn't think deception particularly was wrong.
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Inherently, I don't think it's wrong to put a filter on a photo, but we're talking about
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So, when it comes to dating, men are, I think, honestly, it's the case for both men and women.
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Both men and women, I think the primary thing that has to come first is physical attraction.
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If there isn't physical attraction, then I don't think for most people, nothing else
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So, and you could make the argument, you could even, well, you could make the argument that
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men are more preoccupied with physical attraction than women are.
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Therefore, if women are doing more to change their physical appearance, it is a great, it's
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a greater play on one of men's primary attraction triggers, which is female physical beauty.
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Okay, so you're saying that it pisses men off because-
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No, but it makes them annoyed because they feel like it's false advertising.
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So, it's false advertising, but it preys upon a man's innate drive that he has when he sees
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So, say somebody who, let's just, hypothetical situation, who is ugly, presents himself with
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a buttload of makeup, and they turn themselves pretty.
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So, when I go on this date with this woman, she is presenting a false picture of who she
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is, and preying upon my innate drive to act upon an attraction that is greater in men and
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Nick, if you put, if you go to the Dropbox folder, we have a makeup comparison photo.
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It's, it's just titled, like, FNV7, it's just like a random string of numbers.
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David, hey, Brian, I have been watching your podcast during work posts live for a while
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I really appreciate and admire your content and character.
02:01:21.580
Also, I think this is a great panel with relatively sound-minded people, unlike previous shows.
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So, this is a photo of a woman with makeup and a woman without makeup.
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We're not saying the girl on the right is ugly.
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Can we agree that if presented with these two separate images on the dating app, most
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men are going to say that the woman, or that they're both the same woman, the picture on
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Yeah, I 100% would say that they would say the picture on the left is a more attractive
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Like, is this a pretty significant transformation?
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Honestly, I think it's, like, she looks beautiful in the makeup photo, but I think it's pretty
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average based on what the normal girl looks like and what she can make herself look like
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So then men should know that women do this in today's world and just, like.
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So we're just supposed to magically know what they look.
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I mean, this woman is created in the image of God and is beautiful, but, like, hiding
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that and intentionally deceiving a man that they're going to go date, that, that's, that
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Yeah, honestly, at this point, though, can't the guys tell and then just not go out with
02:03:20.960
But you still don't really know, like, because.
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We know that, but we don't know to the degree of which it's like, how similar does she look?
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Because some makeup, I mean, yeah, like, granted, like, I can tell she has a ton of makeup on.
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So, like, if I was presented that on a dating app, I would.
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Well, I don't know, like, too, like how much makeup she has on.
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I mean, yeah, I can tell that she has a lot of makeup on.
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But do I know what she looks like under that and can gauge what she looks like?
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That's what I'm saying, if she's, yeah, if she's presenting herself like that on the dating app, then you know that you're not interested in her.
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Well, no, clearly, but we can also talk about that in real life.
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So I guess kind of going off of this line of thinking, wouldn't it get her more success in the dating world if she would not present herself with that much makeup?
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Because knowing that guys can, a lot of guys can see that and be like, nope, not going to happen.
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Because probably underneath that, it's not going to be great.
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Because there's something that she's probably trying to hide.
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I'm not saying, yeah, I'm not saying we're disagreeing.
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I agree, I think that it is a form of deception, I think that it's wrong, et cetera, et cetera.
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But you guys are obviously having this back and forth that we're not getting anywhere with.
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Yeah, well, no, it's more like I'm just trying to build off of the discussion.
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No, no, no, I understand, but I have a question.
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If you saw a man on a dating app and he looked a certain way and he came to the date and he didn't look a certain way, would you be upset?
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That's happened to me before, and I've been polite throughout the date, but I never spoke to him again.
02:05:04.880
But I'm not going to dwell over it and make it this big thing in my head, like, oh, he looked different than he did in the photos.
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I agree with you, and I think that if a man dwelled on that, that would also be...
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What if it was, like, the large majority of men that did that?
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You're making a generalization which is harmful to both men and women when you say that all men do that and then you say that it's sexist.
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Okay, not necessarily, like, makeup or, like...
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But most people put on a face that's not necessarily their true self to go out into the world.
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So what's wrong with extending that into the form of, like, makeup?
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but, okay, we're talking about physical appearance.
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Okay, most straight men on dating apps do not wear makeup.
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So, most men are not getting insane amounts of plastic surgery at comparable rates to women.
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So this idea that men and women are engaging in this, when it comes to their physical attractiveness,
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this deception or misrepresentation is erroneous.
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Most men are not, to the degree that women are, misrepresenting their physical appearance.
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Men might certainly misrepresent, for example, their height.
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Which is terrible, granted, but physically speaking, it's not usually on the male side that is deceptive.
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As far as the photo that we pulled up, I would argue that if that woman only included one of those photos on the dating profile,
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there are no other photos, I would argue that the one with full face of makeup is going to get a lot more matches,
02:07:26.860
Yo, can we not spotlight the boring 3FO as to what men want in a woman literally look every other woman on the panel?
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Yo, doc, it is a sad state in our culture when a man is not only able to, not only able,
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but also having to school a group of women on sexual purity.
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I'm in the process of moving to a different house.
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Won't be available to roast anybody while I'm gone.
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Appreciate all your support and patronage, man.
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No tattoos either, but I would definitely date Shania.
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I swear she gets prettier every time she's on the show.
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Well, I'm telling you, it's the one without tattoos.
02:09:26.720
No, she said she doesn't have guys without tattoos.
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but not smart enough to make a good disingenuous argument.
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She's just arguing a win not to get a point across.
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let me shout out Twitch and then the next topic.
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drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub if you have one, guys.
02:10:16.940
Okay, I want to come back really quick to everyone's relationship status.
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So, relationship, relationship, complicated relationship,
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Question for, you said there's been no rebound, right, from your guy?
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I'm sure there's guys who are interested in you, who pursue you.
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When you say single, though, what does that mean?
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I've been in a lot of talking stages and stuff and like hung out with a lot of guys
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and like, you know, like all that, but not like a committed relationship.
02:11:08.760
Just a clarification, you're currently in a lot of talking stages right now with multiple guys?
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I mean, kind of like a good overlap, but it's not like sometimes, but like...
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Over the period of your life, you've had a lot of talking stages.
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Well, it's just like not like solid, like solidified yet or anything.
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Like we've already like hung out once, but like there's nothing like crazy going on.
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Have any of you ever had a seeking or like an arrangement or a sugar daddy?
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I have specific questions on this, but I'm just going to go around the table for everybody.
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My most recent one is in politics, and, well, actually, never mind.
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Last guy I met on Seeking Arrangements was a billionaire, and he lived in London.
02:13:06.860
But he flew me out to stay with him in London, and I stayed with him for like three days.
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How long have you been, wait, how long have you been dating your boyfriend?
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So the billionaire was, was there overlap between the billionaire and your current boyfriend?
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Your boyfriend, but you've known your boyfriend for two years.
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You were friends for two years, but you met on Tinder.
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Yeah, we met on Tinder, and we were friends for two years.
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So I like to keep that secure between my partner and I.
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It's kind of like a touchy situation right now.
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I actually have some pre-show notes here that you provided for us.
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What are some of the names of the companies you've shot with?
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I have to do research on the people that are coming on the show.
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I was going to ask about money but I don't know if you.
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If you're down to share like earnings because that's always interesting because I feel like
02:17:03.200
Oh I was just curious because I know people who do OnlyFans who do adult content are.
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Which I mean most people don't make that in a year.
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There's another photo that we definitely can't show.
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And the corresponding photo that comes with it.
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It's gonna be a wrap for like 90% of dudes, sons.
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Let's just say somebody get me a fucking photo.
02:19:34.240
I feel like I know where you're going with this.
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Does it have to do with like family background?
02:19:52.940
But I think what led me into sex work was stuff that was beyond my control.
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And I think that when I was younger, like 18, like working at the strip club, I gained
02:20:08.540
skills, like people skills, talking to people that I necessarily didn't really like or find
02:20:12.600
And I got really good at making money off of that.
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So I was pissed because I wasn't making enough money for the effort that I was putting in.
02:20:24.920
And I don't really care what people think of me, like sexually wise.
02:20:29.680
But yeah, OK, so before you got into adult content, what was your thought process?
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I want to like, were there other options on the table?
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I mean, like, you can think what you want about this.
02:20:45.060
But I used to joke in high school that I would be like the best porn star if I got into
02:20:50.280
It's I think like I've always been a sexual person.
02:21:01.080
The only test for genital herpes that works is a Western blot test and is highly accurate.
02:21:07.400
With over 100 scenes, the porn star is likely going to get a result she doesn't like.
02:21:33.520
I leave for five minutes and y'all are talking about butt plugs and didos now.
02:21:41.600
Bender, if I knew the button for Haram, I'd be pushing it.
02:21:48.160
Um, I definitely would take a herpes test if I needed to, but I also have never been put
02:21:55.640
in the position where I need to take a test and I've never had any symptoms, which has led
02:22:00.500
Do you mind me asking, like, would you mind sharing details about, like, your parents?
02:22:13.340
I grew up in a very wealthy neighborhood, um, just outside of D.C.
02:22:17.820
Um, I grew up with, like, kids that had everything.
02:22:24.820
They split up and my mom and my grandfather and I ended up homeless and we all ended up
02:22:29.040
living in one room together in a homeless shelter from, like, the ages of 16 to 18.
02:22:33.740
So the second I turned 18, I, like, obviously that's going to cause an obsession with money.
02:22:39.040
From having absolutely everything you can have in life to having nothing.
02:22:46.280
Well, no, but that's a tough upbringing for anybody to go through.
02:22:49.220
I really appreciate that it happened to me because it shaped the way that I am for the
02:22:56.860
Do you think that if you didn't go through that particular event in your life, you would
02:23:06.040
Um, I, I've always had a passion for, like, animals.
02:23:09.740
I love volunteering at the animal shelter, so I might have tried to do something with
02:23:13.280
But I think ultimately, I probably still would have ended up doing OnlyFans, probably still
02:23:18.400
would have ended up going into porn from that because that's just the type of person I am
02:23:28.720
Maybe it's the stripper for Ness, but no, no, no.
02:23:32.440
She's wearing, look, it, it seems like she's, she has some jeans on, she, she has some jeans
02:23:38.200
The other photo, this one, I mean, it could just be a friend, of course.
02:23:43.280
The other photo though, probably, I mean, again, you're a great girl.
02:23:56.240
If, if I was dating you, okay, if I was dating you and I fell upon that picture, you know,
02:24:11.980
She's not particularly hiding this side of her, so.
02:24:49.040
Yeah, math is the standard deviation, and that's not 99%, but whatever.
02:24:54.220
Anyway, so aside from the obvious sexual implications with your job that would turn off pretty much
02:25:01.620
any man, except very, very few, there are other things that are, I think, in the background
02:25:11.460
First, I kind of get the understanding that most people that go into the S-Work industry,
02:25:18.260
they do it because it's easy money, and they say, I usually hear the rhetoric, it makes
02:25:23.960
me happy, I enjoy it, I like the attention, whatever.
02:25:28.040
I would argue that people nowadays have an increased tendency to seek instant gratification.
02:25:39.020
I think men and women suffer from that, but especially in the S-Work industry, the instant
02:25:47.500
gratification that is chased has way more damaging effects down the road than they are willing
02:25:54.700
to understand, and somebody who is willing to suppress that knowledge is not going to
02:26:02.000
Any man who is willing to say, I don't care that you are in this sexualized industry, because
02:26:09.940
there is a tendency for instant gratification instead of prolonged gratification, like when
02:26:15.320
you go to the gym, you're not going to see a change instantaneously.
02:26:20.180
My first day in the gym, I'm not going to get ripped, but somebody who goes to the gym
02:26:24.180
for 10, 20, 30 years, after 30 years, there is, well, muscular gains, but there's also,
02:26:30.680
you can provide, like, you can be there for your wife physically, you can be there for
02:26:35.020
your kids, your grandkids, and there are future gains to be had, future gratification that
02:26:43.820
When you participate in an S-Work, it is instant gratification with the ignoring of major future
02:26:54.320
Do you consider, like, how this would, because I know you said that you want to have children
02:26:57.800
one day, do you ever consider how that, like, your work might affect your children one day?
02:27:08.280
Negatively, it might, but I definitely don't think it will positively affect them, other
02:27:13.460
than the fact that I'm able to, like, be financially stable, yeah, for them.
02:27:17.840
I think that it would either affect them negatively or neutrally, and I think that basically all
02:27:25.900
So I can pretty much promise you it will negatively affect them.
02:27:36.240
Yeah, your kids are absolutely going to get bullied, first of all.
02:27:39.520
It's not really up to you, it's up to the internet.
02:27:44.940
Most of your content, I'm assuming, is free on the internet, if it's porn.
02:27:48.120
The only way you could protect your kids is if you locked them in the house, had no internet
02:27:53.100
access, and, yeah, just, like, made sure that they lived, breathed, and died in that
02:28:00.620
I mean, I just hope I would raise my child well enough so that they understand that I'm
02:28:11.420
Yeah, but that's not how kids, like, perceive things.
02:28:15.300
Kids are, of course, influenced by their parents, but they're very much influenced by their peers.
02:28:19.980
And if their peers are going to school saying, I saw your mom naked on the internet, that's
02:28:24.940
absolutely going to negatively impact them, how their friends look at them, how people look
02:28:31.680
I agree with that, but I also think that every judgment made says more about the person
02:28:37.400
that makes the judgment rather than the person that they're judging.
02:28:40.680
But it's going to affect your kids, that's what they're saying.
02:28:42.860
If the judgment is, like, if the assessment is accurate, then...
02:28:48.720
And I think that the bullying from the other children that would potentially come down from
02:28:52.180
my children would come from parents that pass down negativity onto their children.
02:29:09.300
So you say you're going to raise your kids in a way that makes them understand.
02:29:14.240
You can say that until you're blue in the face, but if they see different, if your life
02:29:22.680
Like, how many people here have been raised by parents who, they talk a good game, but
02:29:28.680
in action, they've messed you up, which is heartbreaking.
02:29:33.080
But a lot of people out there, like, their parents might say, like, I thought I was a
02:29:38.680
good parent, blah, blah, blah, but in actuality, they did a terrible job.
02:29:43.720
I mean, I know plenty of moms in the porn industry that have great relationships with
02:29:54.140
Like, you guys are speaking statistically, and I'm speaking from, like, real life, actual
02:29:57.680
people that I've met, real families that I've seen.
02:30:01.080
It's actually, like, people can be understanding.
02:30:05.000
You can also read plenty of stories on the internet of children that have committed suicide
02:30:08.420
because they've been bullied because their parents have done...
02:30:49.140
Every morning, he would wake up, and he was into, like, NFTs or art or something, and
02:30:54.400
I think he was doing this to, like, show me how macho he was or that he was in charge.
02:30:58.860
Every morning, he would wake up, and for, like, three hours, he would yell at his assistant
02:31:02.000
and be like, Martin, I'm telling you, you're not fucking getting it, Martin, and would
02:31:15.100
Actually, for the rest of the show, can you please do that British voice?
02:31:24.060
You stayed with him for, what, three or four days?
02:31:26.880
And that was the only time that you met him in person just that one time, or their previous?
02:32:19.800
He didn't, like, pay you a thousand bucks or anything?
02:32:29.860
But I've never been to London before and, like...
02:32:47.680
The most recent one was a sugar daddy that, like, became my boyfriend.
02:33:16.240
And we went, like, six months without having sex.
02:33:43.220
Because I think it's also, like, we cared about each other.
02:33:45.540
And I really wasn't feeling sex, and he didn't want to, like, pressure me into sex.
02:34:12.720
Like, it was more just, like, if I wanted, like, a purse, he bought me some earrings.
02:34:35.080
Like, he bought me a computer, like, an 8-terabyte computer, so that was very expensive.
02:34:45.100
He would, like, he would take me wherever I wanted.
02:34:46.860
Like, I got all my meals paid for, like, seven nights a week.
02:34:49.080
We would go to Nobu, and, like, it was, like, lifestyle.
02:34:54.020
But I also recently found out that he was cheating on me the whole time, so I don't really
02:35:06.440
It doesn't sound like this was meant to be a monogamous relationship anyways, but...
02:35:26.260
What's crazy to me, again, and I'll repeat it again, dating and life on easy mode, there's
02:35:30.360
not 18-year-old men getting paid $15,000 by 37-year-old women.
02:35:44.620
If you had to wager, if you had to break down the proportion of sugar mamas to sugar daddies...
02:35:57.040
So, it's, like, okay, yeah, some fucking guy out there's got a sugar mama who's fucking
02:36:07.540
I feel, like, also, like, a sugar mama, I feel like they would do that shit almost begrudgingly.
02:36:16.820
Yeah, well, it, like, goes against their nature.
02:36:19.200
Like, as a woman, they don't want to be the provider.
02:36:22.360
So, it's, like, they kind of, like, have to do this because, like, it's the only way
02:36:28.820
And it's, like, they're holding it against them.
02:36:30.960
Like, I want you to be this manly man, but I'm kind of providing for you.
02:36:38.320
I could totally see, like, a wife spending her husband's money on something like that,
02:36:51.960
And I was, like, some wife that just wants to, like, give her man the middle finger.
02:37:01.920
Have you ever had a scenario where there was just a guy who, like, sent you money, never
02:37:21.960
By the way, this chair's a squeaker, just saying.
02:37:46.800
This girl and the one to her side are fine, but don't do they sound rough.
02:38:02.000
Well, I don't know if he's talking about your voice.
02:38:13.660
The Young LA sign for the clothing company I'm sponsored by.
02:38:20.180
Well, hey, Mr. Meatball, thank you very much for your support there.
02:38:33.040
It was just, like, this guy who, like, was in my request on my Instagram would just pay
02:38:46.780
That's the only sugar daddy experience you had?
02:38:52.180
Or sometimes men will just send me money because my Venmo's, like, in my, like...
02:39:01.180
How many individual men have just randomly sent you money, do you think?
02:39:06.920
Like, over the course of, like, maybe three years?
02:39:35.020
Well, yeah, I'm not the other blonde, obviously.
02:39:42.340
There were about ten to fifteen over the past couple years.
02:39:47.160
But would it be, like, a one-time they'd send you twenty bucks?
02:39:49.040
Yeah, it was nothing, like, serious or anything like that.
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Like, I only, like, would talk to him for, like, two weeks, and then I just got, like,
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Please tell me you were 18 when you were doing this.
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It wasn't, like, Snapchat or anything like that.
02:41:33.100
Because, I mean, you seemed a little upset that he cheated on you, but I would say that this
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Yeah, but he knew about it, and he would text the guy for me if I didn't want to.
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I'd be like, yo, this dude's kind of wanting to send me money if I insult him.
02:41:55.000
If the guy wanted to fuck you, and he was okay with you fucking him for money, would
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I'm not saying you would do it, but wouldn't that be...
02:42:09.100
You can, like, do gymnastics around the idea doesn't make it not cheating.
02:42:14.800
So, just because you can make it sense in your mind, like, doesn't mean it's not cheating.
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I don't want to, like, be arguing in bad faith.
02:42:30.320
He was like, did you share any of the money with the boyfriend?
02:42:40.960
So, what were some of the ridiculous fucking weird shit that the guy wanted you to say?
02:42:44.660
Um, one of them was just, like, send, like, a voice memo on Instagram, like, saying, I
02:42:51.200
don't know whatever his name, David, or whatever, like, you have a small dick.
02:42:54.380
Like, it would just be, like, it would be, like, innocent stuff like that.
02:43:06.580
Or he'd be, like, call me ugly, say I'm disgusting.
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If any men feel the need to be degraded for sexual gratification...
02:43:26.180
Ladies, if any of you want to be degraded, I will fin dom, I will do all that shit, I
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will take all your fucking money, I will bleed you dry.
02:43:34.260
Actually, I don't know if I'd feel my moral compass would allow me to...
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Was it, like, 50-50 with your boyfriend that you shared in her?
02:44:06.880
Wait, don't you guys get, like, these kind of goofball type of dudes in your DMs?
02:44:18.080
I want you to squeeze my head like a watermelon.
02:44:29.420
I mean, definitely, a lot of people want to be degraded.
02:44:31.260
I think that's a thing that comes with being a masculine woman is...
02:44:49.260
I'd say that I'm definitely more masculine than, like, a good 90% of women.
02:44:59.780
I prefer to be with a man who's more masculine than me, which has been difficult because men
02:45:10.460
It drowns out your masculinity because of how masculine he is.
02:45:14.060
Does that push you more into your feminine that he's super masculine or you're just like...
02:45:18.940
I prefer being masculine, and that's the reason that I haven't, like, really dated, like,
02:45:35.220
Well, okay, how would you guys define femininity?
02:45:43.020
Like, obviously not as masculine as some girls.
02:45:49.460
But on a day-to-day basis, I tend to dress more like a guy.
02:45:53.860
Yeah, I think we're talking more, like, the way you present yourself appearance-wise,
02:46:04.780
I mean, I have to wear a sports bra to the gym.
02:46:07.120
But, like, I feel like this is what fitness girls wear.
02:46:10.400
I don't think it makes you feminine, like you're in a bikini or something.
02:46:14.960
I think we're talking more, like, feminine in your relationship.
02:46:17.760
Oh, I mean, like, in general, like, I'm definitely more masculine.
02:46:27.320
There was actually a rumor about that for a while.
02:46:37.620
But, no, I tend to have more testosterone-based thinking.
02:46:42.160
There's four different classes of thinking in psychology.
02:46:46.480
I tend to, in my previous, I wouldn't call it relationships, when I try and pursue a man,
02:46:54.640
When I pursued women, I've been more masculine.
02:47:00.880
But my boyfriend is definitely more masculine than me.
02:47:27.820
Brian, you can't say she won't get married 100%.
02:47:34.180
Mia Khalifa should not be a model for anyone's marriage.
02:47:38.120
No, she's been divorced twice and had an engagement broken off once.
02:47:52.820
Mia Khalifa, though, has been divorced three times, yeah.
02:47:57.640
If there's 99% of men that say no, there's still that 1%.
02:48:03.200
And I think that they go into the industry knowing that there's going to be very few men
02:48:08.000
who are okay with it, but there are men that are okay with it.
02:48:11.080
I don't think anyone said that she was never going to get married.
02:48:14.280
Yeah, I said something like, if I remember my math here, 90, 97% for dudes, it's a wrap.
02:48:26.720
Like, there's women that don't want to date me because I've got this controversial, ridiculous
02:48:32.260
I mean, like, I think the whole point of dating is, like, I think when you're dating, you're
02:48:37.600
allowed to be selfish and a little bit, what's the word I'm looking for?
02:48:41.960
Surface with your opinions of people, especially when you're meeting them for the first time
02:48:45.220
on first dates because, you know, that's, like, the bare minimum basic requirements
02:48:56.860
There needs to be, for me, there needs to be a lot of trust.
02:49:07.200
I mean, I, well, I guess for you, but I feel like that would affect how you view relationships
02:49:15.120
I, I personally think that, I don't believe in soulmates, but I believe in, like, energies
02:49:23.240
And so I think that when you're in a healthy, when you're in a healthy relationship that
02:49:28.200
your nonverbal chemistry, your communication, nonverbal communication and chemistry matters
02:49:32.980
a lot, almost as much as it matters the way that verbal communication matters.
02:49:38.660
So, like, basically, if you can't be yourself around your partner and you can't tell them
02:49:43.980
what you really think, then you're not going to have a healthy relationship.
02:49:51.540
Like, those are all, obviously, pretty given things.
02:49:54.100
I don't think anyone's, like, oh, I think a healthy relationship has no communication and
02:50:00.980
Yeah, but, like, what, I'm confused on what you mean by fundamentally.
02:50:04.980
Like, say you get married, you want to have kids, does that look like a monogamous relationship
02:50:11.740
So, like, is, is marriage the, like, when you, like, decide you're going to stop with
02:50:19.100
I mean, like, personally, the way that I've laid it out in my head is I want to move, like,
02:50:25.520
I want to be doing my, I don't know, I don't know, that's a hard question.
02:50:29.840
Because for me in my brain, sex work is not the same as sex.
02:50:45.000
Do you think, do you think your work affects your, like, personal sex life?
02:50:53.220
Okay, um, I think it makes me pay less attention to the sexual side of our relationship, which
02:51:03.920
But I also think that it makes me more aware of my emotions rather than just, like, oh, this
02:51:12.740
Like, I can, kind of what you were saying, like, I, okay, I have sex with so many people
02:51:20.540
And so there's not really emotional connection there.
02:51:27.020
And I think that, um, it can be really confusing, like, emotionally.
02:51:32.120
When the person that I, I love and I'm telling him that I love him and he's the only person
02:51:40.100
But then he can go online and see me with all of these other people.
02:51:45.540
It has to, insecurities have to play in your mind.
02:51:49.160
But you also have to be stronger than your insecurities and realize that.
02:51:55.600
And it's, it's not how I'm going to treat you as a person.
02:52:02.900
The fact that, the fact that he would be, like, her partner would be uncomfortable seeing,
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like, or even just the idea and knowing that she's having sex with other men.
02:52:11.360
Well, you actually talked a little bit about this in your pre-show notes to us.
02:52:15.960
So, you said in your pre-show notes, and I will, you know, I know we've given this particular
02:52:22.400
I do want to, once I get through this, we'll try to open things up more to the panel.
02:52:28.400
You said, I really think the feelings of possessiveness that come up in relationships is an interesting
02:52:34.200
For example, I have sex with men for a living, and my boyfriend knows that, and is okay with
02:52:44.280
But when he has sex with other girls, I get jealous and start arguments.
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I want to know that I have all the attention at all times.
02:52:56.340
I don't care if it's wrong or hypocritical, it's how I feel.
02:53:04.200
But okay, just a couple clarifying things here.
02:53:23.500
It sounds exactly like a tit for tat type of situation.
02:53:28.400
I mean, once you start going down a path of promiscuity, it's like...
02:53:35.500
But see, I think where the dissonance in our perspectives is, is that me and my partner
02:53:42.340
Me and my partner know that sex work is just work.
02:53:46.060
Obviously, you don't know it's work because you're starting arguments over him doing his
02:54:08.860
When you go against your nature, what does that cause?
02:54:15.060
What do problems cause an unhealthy relationship?
02:54:22.220
But what do you mean you don't agree with biological facts?
02:54:25.040
I mean, I don't agree that monogamy is like the biological end-all-be-all of the most...
02:54:39.100
Because there are tribes where polyamory is how they survive.
02:54:45.900
But humans have shown to naturally be predisposed to parabon and to be monogamous.
02:54:59.640
I just think the way our society is formed and the way that most of us has grown up,
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yes, it seems like it would be the social norm.
02:55:08.000
But I think in the history of the universe, I don't think monogamy was like...
02:55:17.500
No, I think she's talking about caveman times, right?
02:55:27.720
So, you made the point that some tribes in the world practice polygamy, right?
02:55:33.540
Should we really model our society after this primitive tribe?
02:55:38.380
In those communities, people still would tend to pair bond with one person.
02:55:42.900
I mean, just because people do it doesn't mean it's ideal.
02:55:57.680
What's natural for humans is to create more children.
02:56:02.120
And most of those tribes that you're referring to have a...
02:56:06.040
What's the term for where it's closed on the woman's side but open on the man's side?
02:56:13.540
But most of those tribes, there is a man that has multiple wives or women that they...
02:56:27.740
It's legitimately for the purpose of repopulation.
02:56:34.580
Okay, so yeah, it's natural for a man to desire sex with a lot of partners.
02:56:43.580
My argument, the natural tendency is for society to fall into monogamy.
02:56:52.320
I'm saying even in the communities where polygamy was practiced, people tended to pair bond with
02:56:59.240
So kind of going off of this idea of pair bonds.
02:57:03.480
So in those societies where polygamy was either promoted or mainly practiced, I would say that
02:57:10.560
those societies quickly fell out of the public eye because of not just that practice, but
02:57:17.420
a plethora of other things that came with that.
02:57:20.100
I mean, you just kind of see that there are most civilizations that practice those things,
02:57:26.940
that's usually an indication that a civilization is going to fail.
02:57:32.960
It shows a civilization that is not connected with reality.
02:57:37.400
And it's going against the natural order of things.
02:57:40.000
Well, you're talking about natural order and sense of, like, civilizations.
02:57:46.480
Barfy, do you believe that hookup culture is a good thing or a bad thing for society as
02:58:01.980
So do you think hookup culture is a good thing or a bad thing?
02:58:14.660
So this kind of goes into the argument I'm trying to make.
02:58:29.380
I don't think that was her central point anyways.
02:58:31.720
We were initially talking about this dynamic with you and your boyfriend, right?
02:58:37.540
Well, yeah, but she was talking about being human.
02:58:43.240
The point that I'm trying to make is even though I am secure in the fact that I love my
02:58:48.460
boyfriend and he loves me and that my job is just work and that his job is just
02:58:52.480
work, it is still inevitable for me, even though I'm, like, very secure, to feel jealousy
02:59:15.840
I think sex with your partner could be an intimate thing.
02:59:23.760
Sex is the most intimate thing that we can offer another human in our lives, but you clearly
02:59:31.440
Well, and also, didn't you say that if your partner saw you doing your work that they're
02:59:44.300
Like, I'm trying to relay the fact that, like, him and I both have the same insecurities
02:59:57.840
But in my ideal world, neither of us would have to fuck other people in order to make
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I do because it's what I like and society provides a job.
03:00:16.360
Wait, you like it, but you wish that you didn't have to do it.
03:00:19.800
No, she said that even if she had, like, a completely different...
03:00:23.560
Yeah, I know, but it's something that's going to go back to an earlier conversation.
03:00:26.720
In an ideal world, I wish our society was placed in a way where I...
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No, where, like, I had the option to do sex work, but where...
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I would change my life where I was put in a position where I...
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So, where I had the chance to go to college and, like, get a really good degree,
03:01:03.000
had the time and the money to, like, personally invest in my studies and, like, my knowledge
03:01:09.580
And that's not necessarily, like, the worst thing in the world, but as a result of that,
03:01:15.380
And I have put myself in this situation where I have to navigate relationships.
03:01:29.200
That's enough to go to fucking community college.
03:01:36.680
You just said you wish you could have lived in a world where I could have gone to college.
03:01:49.320
Like, you say, like, to provide value for society, like, this shouldn't be in there,
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You're actively contributing to the moral decay of society.
03:02:01.100
So, I mean, there are a lot of evil people in history.
03:02:04.960
I don't think that sex work, necessarily, is the ultimate moral decay of society.
03:02:14.120
I think what contributes to it is the consumers, not the sex workers.
03:02:19.300
Guys, we keep veering off of the central point here.
03:02:23.640
If you want, you can bring it back to sex work is bad.
03:02:27.700
However, let's try to hone in on the relationship dynamic here that you have.
03:02:32.300
When it comes to Yale, I'd be happy to write you a letter of recommendation.
03:02:35.800
In any case, so, okay, your boyfriend, so he drops you off at their houses.
03:02:54.820
I'm, like, I'm trying to wrap my head around how I would feel, like, I'm driving my girl to the chute.
03:03:06.260
And I'm, like, does he kiss you goodbye, like, as you're leaving?
03:03:26.700
All of your actions are working against that goal.
03:03:31.320
But, okay, what is what I do for work working against my goal of marriage?
03:03:37.560
Because you just said it builds insecurity for both of you.
03:03:44.560
You're sharing stuff that is key to who you are trying to...
03:03:51.620
And if you're sharing that with other people, then it creates intimacies with these other people.
03:03:56.380
And all of a sudden, you can't make that emotional connection with your significant other.
03:04:00.920
Who's saying that I can't make that emotional connection?
03:04:03.080
Biologically, it does take away from your ability to be able to have that emotional connection through sex.
03:04:13.060
I would prefer that he only fucks me and, like, gives me all of the attention.
03:04:20.780
But I understand that that's not, like, necessarily how my lifestyle works.
03:04:25.920
But that's, as a man, that's what he's going to want.
03:04:32.280
If he, even if he says that right now he doesn't really care, that's what he wants.
03:04:45.140
So men do not want their women sleeping around with a bunch of other dudes.
03:04:54.780
He will say what he needs to say because, for some reason in his mind, like, he just wants to make sure that you're not going to walk out.
03:05:02.600
And he will say whatever he wants to say to make that not happen.
03:05:42.000
At least you acknowledge it's kind of hypocritical or whatever.
03:05:59.520
No, actually, I had a point, but it just actually slipped my mind.
03:06:06.680
I guess my big thing, though, is that would you say that it's men who don't want to date
03:06:12.860
or be involved with women who do sex work, would you say they're insecure?
03:06:23.380
But personally, from my experience, they're insecure.
03:06:29.420
I think it could actually mean, potentially, that they are very secure in themselves.
03:06:45.560
I think for the fact that they just don't, they purely don't want to see their girl.
03:06:49.780
No, no, no, I agree with the fact that people don't want other people to fuck their girlfriend.
03:06:56.260
But I also think that that lies within possessiveness, which is what I talked about.
03:06:59.400
I don't think that's a good trait for any person to have.
03:07:06.380
Wait, you just said possessiveness is not a good trait to have.
03:07:09.480
But you said, I really think the feelings of possessiveness that come up in, oh, well, okay, that's, you are possessive, though.
03:07:16.740
You said you start arguments, you get jealous, even though he's doing precisely what you're doing.
03:07:21.980
It's, I just can't wrap my head around, how can you be mad at somebody, your significant other, for engaging in the exact kind of behavior that you engage in yourself?
03:07:39.740
You're like, how dare you fuck that bitch when I just fucked a dude yesterday?
03:07:41.940
No, basically what happened, that's referring to like one specific situation.
03:07:45.020
So what happened was like, this girl came over and like, they fucked.
03:07:53.180
But I got really frustrated because I'm not able to like, like, I'm, okay, I'm not able to make him like come from head all the time.
03:08:06.160
And he told me immediately that, he told me immediately that she did it, she did it in like two minutes, and then they had to like film a whole other video.
03:08:16.780
And then proceeded to tell me, I know, and then proceeded to tell me how I could do it like her.
03:08:21.260
And that honestly just made me feel frustrated because.
03:08:34.520
Bro, this is, you're, in your, you are a professional.
03:08:39.680
But I don't want to be professional for my boyfriend.
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I'm not going to say that word, you are a professional.
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Even if you could remove disease from the conversation, which you can't, you're most likely H positive.
03:08:52.420
Do you think any man would want to put his tongue where 100 other men have been?
03:08:57.260
Your lady bits are basically a sewer at this point.
03:09:16.420
I used to want a rhinoplasty when I was younger.
03:09:39.160
And that's almost, it hurts me that you have a big labia and you do porn.
03:09:51.040
I saw, look, I had to do the research on the Twitter.
03:09:56.960
Bro, dude, her Twitter is like, I don't sub to you or anything, but your Twitter, you post
03:10:20.840
She saw a photo of me with like Brickzilla's penis wrapped around my neck.
03:10:24.160
She goes, I just want to make sure you're okay.
03:10:27.060
She was like, you look so little with that big snake wrapped around your neck.
03:10:34.280
Can you really not see how unhealthy and unsustainable this relationship is?
03:10:40.420
Have you never had a real example of an actual healthy relationship before?
03:10:47.000
If it wasn't for the fact that you did porn and you were a stripper and you had a billionaire
03:10:53.220
sugar daddy and you have a mushroom tattoo on your sternum, you would actually kind of
03:11:16.320
The last girl who did porn on the show tried to.
03:11:40.960
Well, because he said my vagina is probably like a sewer, so, you know.
03:11:59.500
I'd say men and women are being led by the media to want superficial things from one
03:12:02.880
another more than spiritual, wholesome qualities in a partner.
03:12:06.780
I think that separates our society in a way that negatively impacts the way we see life
03:12:12.020
as a whole and the way we treat people who come into our lives.
03:12:15.580
Unfortunately, we are being led to see love as what can someone provide for me rather than
03:12:21.600
how can these two people work together for the better?
03:12:27.520
A little earlier, you did say, the guy should pay for the first date.
03:12:41.940
I've had some temptation to change my position on it, but there are some circumstances where
03:12:49.680
I would pay on the first date, but I think in this current social and dating climate, I
03:12:59.140
Again, there are some circumstances, yes, but in the current dating and social climate,
03:13:07.620
If society as a whole, people as a whole, young people as a whole, were moving in a more
03:13:18.520
But my primary qualm with men paying for the first date is, I don't want to feel like
03:13:24.480
So if I'm going on a date with a girl, there's some, not all, I'd say it's not, it's a minority
03:13:36.320
No, I can definitely see why you wouldn't want to pay on the first date, but that doesn't
03:13:45.520
That was, thank you for your, what's the right word for that?
03:13:56.040
Wait, Brian, can I ask you a question about that?
03:13:59.080
Okay, so would you, like, would you prefer to have traditional gender roles in your relationship,
03:14:05.540
In my future relationship, traditional gender roles.
03:14:10.120
You know what's funny is that in some ways, like the whole feminist stuff has actually
03:14:15.100
benefited men in a lot of ways, which is kind of fun.
03:14:19.400
Although some, well, okay, I'm getting ahead of myself here.
03:14:23.220
Like, it's kind of great, like, you know, oh, 50-50, I guess we can do that.
03:14:29.920
Oh, you want to, you can even push it sometimes.
03:14:38.520
You would continue that on in your relationship.
03:14:39.960
He would love for a woman to pay for everything.
03:14:46.240
Well, because I like to, I do like to lead, but I would also say, like, it is nice when
03:14:55.880
Like, if I feel like I'm always having to initiate, and you obviously want someone who
03:15:01.120
You don't want to feel like, man, I'm, in the same way with friendships.
03:15:04.340
Do you know, I don't know if any of you here have friends where you are, well, no, no,
03:15:11.920
But, you know, like, there are some friends that you might have where you feel like, I'm
03:15:15.560
always the one that's kind of reaching out to them, and I'm always, and after a long
03:15:19.780
enough time, it can kind of feel like they're not valuing the relationship in the same way.
03:15:25.480
So, I kind of like that in a romantic relationship.
03:15:27.660
Don't get me wrong, like, I like to lead, and I'm happy to take initiative.
03:15:30.620
But, it is nice if there's, like, you know, it's clear that she has a mutual, genuine
03:15:41.680
Well, absolutely, you want the, like, you want the woman to be more emotionally invested.
03:16:06.060
Like, you'd be totally fine if she just paid rent, and you're just like, hell yeah.
03:16:27.080
Like, you would be fine with your wife being like that, you and your wife's relationship.
03:16:29.560
Well, I kind of like it if a girl simps for me.
03:16:37.220
If she pays for everything in your marriage, would you like that?
03:16:40.040
Like, would that put you off a little bit at all?
03:16:44.880
I feel like I actually, and maybe some guys in the chat are going to call me out, be like,
03:16:49.580
But, like, if you can still kind of maintain the frame of the relationship and you're still
03:17:00.220
You would have to have, you would have to maintain some kind of purpose as a man.
03:17:04.340
Because I think men inherently, like, work has to be done.
03:17:10.220
Like, if you don't have any purpose with your life, it's going to be terrible.
03:17:14.580
Well, so, and I mean, that goes both for men and women, but, like, if the woman is leading,
03:17:20.560
if the woman is fulfilling all of these masculine roles, I, yeah, I think it will be unfulfilling.
03:17:27.140
But if somehow you could do that in which, where you have, like, this leadership role still
03:17:32.060
and you're, like, pursuing this mission, but she's just paying the bills.
03:17:37.040
I don't know if I would be happy, like, with the fucking, what's that baby thing that's
03:17:46.040
I don't think I'd be happy, like, being the state, I don't.
03:17:51.060
That's, yeah, I don't think you'd be happy with that.
03:17:52.860
Well, like, me personally, like, I don't know if the greatest fulfillment in life for
03:18:05.400
Like, I personally, don't get me wrong, like, I like to make money.
03:18:12.760
But, like, if I can't, like, if someone just gave me, like, 10 million right now, I'm good.
03:18:27.600
Like, it wouldn't drastically change what you do.
03:18:52.460
Because you're saying you would want to still lead in the relationship, right?
03:18:55.600
You would still want to present a masculine role.
03:19:15.340
I feel like I'm thinking a very hypothetical way.
03:19:59.760
I don't think any of them begrudgingly do that sort of work.
03:20:51.800
And, you don't have to do that back breaking work.
03:21:02.680
Kind of what the point you're trying to get at.
03:21:46.840
Would you not just trade that in for something.
03:21:58.400
But, I'm just pointing out that I feel like you would feel a little emasculated if she's paying for everything.
03:22:03.900
Because then she is somewhat taking a leader role.
03:23:08.100
Probably a lot of them get a lot of fulfillment.
03:23:24.620
They weren't sleeping around in their younger years.
03:24:49.560
I'm not going out of my way to pursue wealthy women.
03:25:00.300
But I'm not going to be more attracted to a girl.
03:25:03.940
I'm ever going to be in a gold digger situation.
03:25:19.840
I am fulfilled and don't feel emasculated or embarrassed.
03:25:24.700
Being a stay at home father is harder than my last job.
03:25:28.280
And I was a New York City firefighter for 11 years.
03:25:43.060
I don't necessarily think that it has to be emasculating.
03:25:55.480
I don't know how old your children are obviously.
03:25:59.920
The mother to be very present in young children's life specifically.
03:26:38.880
I have a lot of respect for him for doing that.
03:31:37.080
It talks about the woman who can take what she has.
03:31:43.900
And it's not just this woman that is secluded to the home.
03:32:01.440
She is well known by the intellectuals in the city.
03:34:39.680
And I would hope that she would be able to take that.
03:34:47.420
Or some kind of skill where she can be at home with the children.
03:35:31.340
Why can't your purpose be to stay home and take care of the kids?
03:35:49.620
Care for and provide attention to your children.
03:36:28.360
There are very few circumstances in which divorce is okay.
03:36:37.600
Not just each other physically and emotionally.
03:37:05.920
And let's say you meet some girl who happens to be wealthy.
03:38:00.540
Would you feel emasculated in your relationship.
03:42:56.560
All the pretty ladies here are devaluing themselves.
03:43:01.820
I think every person on this panel is at least an eight.
03:43:06.460
I think it's interesting that women are expected to undervalue the way that they look in order
03:43:18.260
There's I mean there's objective standards of like beauty and good in this world.
03:43:23.380
And you know it's it's not a bad thing or like an insecure thing to be realistic towards
03:43:28.800
Obviously I think we could both agree that looks aren't everything.
03:43:32.400
But it is worthy to note that looks are important when it comes to dating.
03:43:38.360
So there are people who don't have that 10 out of 10 look.
03:43:44.320
And we could probably both agree that there's people that are more attractive and people
03:43:49.380
But I have to recognize that those people and I mean everybody here is created in the
03:43:57.140
So there is inherent value that is found in you.
03:44:04.540
We all come in a bunch of sizes shapes and colors.
03:44:12.860
I mean like I just I don't even know I'm going with this.
03:44:15.340
But like if you say that not everyone's perfect looking then that has to do with like what
03:44:18.660
is the ideal version of what a perfect person looks like.
03:44:22.400
Well biologically there are things that human beings can deem as what's more attractive
03:44:28.120
And I think you can realistically rate yourself on a scale.
03:44:31.580
I don't think it's yeah I don't think it's necessarily undervaluing.
03:44:44.680
If society needs to be fixed what is better option?
03:44:47.120
Shaming the sex workers or two shaming the sims who pay for the content?
03:45:06.360
If there was nobody making the content there would be no content to consume.
03:45:09.520
But then people would go out and do it in real life and that can get dangerous.
03:45:21.020
People in general have fetishes and a lot of those fetishes people are nervous or embarrassed
03:45:29.160
They're nervous that they're going to be rejected because that fetish is weird.
03:45:31.920
It's taboo so they look to porn to live out that fetish and if porn doesn't exist people
03:45:48.940
If like if that content weren't out there half these people wouldn't understand that they
03:45:57.660
In the if porn didn't exist there would be less fetishization of sex.
03:46:05.700
But the occurrences and where somebody had a weirder sexual preference you should be able
03:46:10.880
to discuss that with your spouse and come to a agreement like are you comfortable with
03:46:17.240
that and I will love my spouse and I will try to cater to what they enjoy because I'm not
03:46:24.540
I'm not called to be selfish in a relationship I'm mostly called to be selfless so if my
03:46:30.700
spouse desires something like I'm going to try to accommodate and I would hope I would
03:46:42.900
I mean I was just going to say that while I am very much anti-sex work and.
03:46:50.420
No, no, no, no, no, don't put that idea in people's heads.
03:47:00.660
I do believe that shaming sex workers, I wouldn't say contributes to the problem, but it's not
03:47:09.580
If there was the consumerism is a huge issue on top of.
03:47:13.720
And I'm not trying to like, I mean, I obviously don't condone that, that industry whatsoever.
03:47:20.080
I'm not doing this to like personally shame anybody, but I like if you just, yeah, exactly.
03:47:26.460
If you cut it off at the, at the, at the feet, there's no content to consume.
03:47:30.940
I mean, it's just in, in context of this question.
03:47:34.060
Yeah, but in the context of that question, if you had to choose one or the other, you
03:47:37.320
think that shaming sex workers, not necessarily getting rid of sex work as a whole, because
03:47:42.620
You think shaming sex workers is the better option then?
03:47:45.280
I mean, I didn't, yeah, I guess the articulation of that question.
03:47:47.780
If you could get rid of sex work entirely, yeah, sure, that's obvious.
03:47:50.320
In the context of the question, I think I would rather the verbiage be we should shame the
03:47:55.480
act and not the, I mean, the person is committing the act, so you can't be devoid of responsibility.
03:48:00.260
But the act in itself, we should totally say, is a horrendous decay on society that needs
03:48:07.720
Your response to the decay on society that needs to be stopped?
03:48:16.900
One thing really quick, earlier you mentioned something about, or I don't know if it was
03:48:22.100
Priya in response to something she said, that, well, porn is actually what create, I think
03:48:27.640
it was Priya, porn creates a lot of these kinks.
03:48:30.860
And I don't know, I'll say this, maybe it's not even porn, it's just like other kinds
03:48:43.760
So, okay, I've been having sex since the Bush administration, son.
03:48:53.820
I've been having sex since the Bush administration.
03:48:56.340
And I don't know what happened in like 2012, 2013.
03:49:01.400
But all of a sudden, I don't know what shifted.
03:49:11.440
It went from like wholesome, intimate sex to like choke me, daddy.
03:49:39.880
Do you want to know like what has contributed to things like that?
03:49:44.720
Like, obviously, BDSM has become normalized because of porn.
03:49:54.580
I'll do a gentle choke, but I'm not trying to do like asphyxiation like you want to actually
03:50:05.800
You don't like take the wind out of them, but you like...
03:50:09.920
Yeah, you like cut off the blood circulation over here.
03:50:13.080
And it like creates this like effect in your head where you feel, it creates an effect
03:50:16.880
in your head where you feel kind of like dizzy almost.
03:50:23.600
It feels really good because it heightens all your other sensations.
03:50:29.960
Some girls actually want to be on the verge of passing out.
03:50:37.640
I'm not trying to catch a case for your fucking sexual gratification.
03:50:41.880
Yeah, I mean, just if we look in history, we've seen the decline of pretty much most
03:50:49.340
civilizations has been the hallmark of a declining civilization.
03:51:00.480
Well, yeah, it's hallmarked by its promiscuity.
03:51:05.640
When, like, this stuff gets normalized, ah, it's not a good sign.
03:51:14.000
The same stuff happens over and over throughout history.
03:51:16.220
So when societies start idolizing sex and chasing those things, then it's a wrap.
03:51:26.440
So Greek society, it promoted homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, just, like, things that
03:51:38.220
But don't you think, I might have to move this on, but go ahead.
03:51:49.640
Don't you think that, like, being promiscuous and doing stuff that is, like, against the
03:51:53.240
norm, not really, like, morally correct brings new knowledge of ways that we never thought
03:52:05.600
Okay, ladies, a gentle choke, maybe a hand on the neck.
03:52:15.360
Oh, I think you, this one already came through.
03:52:22.080
What would you do to keep living the way, oh, if, oh, okay, now this is a different question.
03:52:28.920
If all this stuff became illegal, OF, social media, Cornside, Sugar Daddy, et cetera, what
03:52:35.240
would you do to keep living the way you, the way that you are now?
03:52:40.720
I would probably have to reevaluate my situation.
03:52:46.800
I would either try and make it, like, safe for work and go to, like, TikTok, but realistically,
03:52:52.060
I would, I would probably just work at an animal shelter.
03:53:19.860
Whenever we change the topic, question for the panel, is a red flag if a guy doesn't have
03:53:27.720
Am I shooting myself in the foot by not having one?
03:53:32.760
So, red flag, if a guy doesn't have Instagram, no social media.
03:53:57.180
No, I actually thought you thought that she was doing coke.
03:54:09.000
Yeah, but only because I feel like you wouldn't be as up to date with...
03:54:21.840
If I go to my boyfriend and I'm like, oh, my God, this and this and this, and he's like,
03:54:26.880
And I have to sit there and explain every single thing that led up to that happening for like
03:54:31.020
30 minutes, I wouldn't be able to talk about all the things I want to talk about.
03:54:43.100
What happens if I want to go to Chris and I'm like, hey, this person did this and this
03:54:49.220
and this and this, and this affects my job because this, because now our contracts have
03:54:55.260
I have to sit there and explain to him the billions and millions of little things that
03:55:06.900
I feel like I would want to ask the question why they don't because I feel like it's very
03:55:11.200
common to have at least one social media platform, but I don't really think it's, I think it's
03:55:29.720
I would also want to know why, um, and like part of me, like if he has like a low follower
03:55:36.640
count and like posts like maybe once a day or once a year, like that would be like, okay,
03:55:51.660
You'd like to be shown off in a, like you'd want him to post you on his IG?
03:56:01.220
I feel like it's not really a red flag or like even anything good because I feel like
03:56:05.180
that's kind of weird because like I feel like everyone nowadays does have a platform like
03:56:08.840
Like I would want to know like why aren't you on that?
03:56:13.020
Like I don't know if it would be like for a bad reason or what.
03:56:24.200
I'm thoroughly surprised with the answers actually.
03:56:28.980
I think it's, I think it's a very attractive thing if a, if a guy has little or no social
03:56:35.180
I think maybe it might be a red flag for women because you're not able to scope the
03:56:42.880
Like, cause I feel like with social media, you can kind of get a better feel for the
03:56:47.880
Uh, so it could like almost veer into like a safety thing.
03:56:53.340
Like, Whoa, this guy's a non, like totally anonymous online.
03:57:03.720
I could totally see like, like there's a red flag.
03:57:07.000
Cause like, you don't really know much about him.
03:57:12.520
Uh, but I definitely would, I would say it's more of a green flag as well.
03:57:16.880
I mean, obviously I'm not looking for dudes, but I could see how it was more of a green
03:57:21.660
I know, cause I know guys who don't have, uh, social medias and the reason is usually
03:57:26.580
because they don't want to one, be indoctrinated by certain political positions, but also like
03:57:34.280
they don't want to be looking at, uh, filth online.
03:57:38.360
Either matter, like you just don't feel the need to share everything you do.
03:57:41.140
Like, I, I mean, I'm also coming at it, but like, I understand the, like the safety argument.
03:57:46.880
Every, I'm pretty sure every, every, everybody that I, oh, okay.
03:57:51.060
But I, I think everyone that I pretty much dated, I've met in person and like had some
03:57:55.340
sort of acquaintanceship with before I actually got into a relationship with them.
03:57:59.340
So I come up at it from a bit of a different angle, but yeah.
03:58:07.380
Uh, I think, and certainly just on the individual level for the guy, you're probably going to
03:58:12.620
have a happier fucking life, not engaging in social media.
03:58:15.300
If you don't have to, um, I think maybe I can also try to frame the question.
03:58:24.420
First option, the guy has an Instagram, you can stalk him, not stalk him, but like you can
03:58:29.360
do a little background check, but he follows a bunch of women on Instagram and he's like
03:58:36.380
liking their photos and shit versus a guy who has no Instagram and he's obviously not doing
03:58:44.280
And it wouldn't necessarily, maybe some of you that you don't care, but it wouldn't be a
03:58:48.140
source of potential jealousy or like, yo, we're dating.
03:58:55.380
She looked, okay, sorry, you know what I mean, come on, all right, all right, she gave me
03:59:06.120
That was a, there was a question, there was a question mark there, yeah.
03:59:10.080
Oh yeah, I mean, I'd rather a man have no social media presence versus, uh, be a slut
03:59:16.980
Um, for me it could go both ways, um, it depends, I think, on the type of relationship I'm looking
03:59:30.720
We're gonna do an after show for a little bit, um, we're gonna reduce the cost for a
03:59:35.900
read in TTS, um, not, you don't have to do it quite yet, Nick.
03:59:39.980
Um, any final thoughts, any questions that you guys have, anybody have something they wanted
03:59:45.840
to talk about but haven't gone into before we do the after show?
03:59:54.760
No, I made a fart noise in my mouth, I'm sorry.
03:59:58.960
Uh, let me just double check here, uh, one sec, guys, one sec.
04:00:05.520
So, we're gonna do the after show, uh, that, we just continued doing the show, but it, it's
04:00:11.280
more chill, it's like a chill, chill sesh, bruv.
04:00:15.000
Oh, wait, last thing, okay, body count, since we always fuckin' do this.
04:00:18.880
Uh, is the chat going after you for no longer asking that question?
04:00:24.260
I don't know, uh, should body count matter, yes or no?
04:00:31.500
Does body count matter or you ask me my body count?
04:00:36.280
Um, body count, I have to say, does not matter because I have over a hundred bodies.
04:01:06.860
Um, I am a virgin and I think body count does matter, obviously.
04:01:34.660
I told Chris a baseline of, like, a year and then we'll see how I'm feeling after that.
04:01:39.700
But my baseline for sure is that I'd like to be in a relationship for a year first.
04:01:47.340
But you could, would you say you could even be potentially sooner than that?
04:01:54.340
Like, even if in my head I feel like, okay, like, I would like to, I'm still going to wait
04:02:00.880
And it sounded like just by your response when I asked about him, you're like, did he kind
04:02:13.260
That being, I don't prefer that the man I date is a virgin or whatever.
04:02:17.960
Like, he was, he was in college for four years.
04:02:31.080
You know, I told him I was coming on and he was like, don't say anything.
04:02:34.840
Yeah, no, it's, um, it's Chris Tren, if you want to look at it.
04:02:52.080
I was just like, if that's a crazy play, like, that'd be sick.
04:03:09.560
Yeah, he played football in high school and college.
04:03:37.040
Would you date slash sleep with someone who has an incurable STD?
04:03:41.560
Remember 60 bodies equals you've been with 12 partners who have genital herpes and condoms
04:03:58.200
I just, I want to finish up the question we have here.
04:04:01.360
Wait, okay, so you've been dating your boyfriend for three months?
04:04:32.220
He, remember I told you that we were long distance, long distance before we were dating.
04:04:36.840
And then when he moved here, we became official.
04:04:40.540
Like we were, you know, like a talking phase or whatever.
04:04:44.180
We did that from originally Houston to Maryland and then from Michigan to Los Angeles.
04:05:00.120
I want to be engaged before I live with somebody.
04:05:09.980
I'm not like trying to break your fucking, I'm not trying to break your heart here.
04:05:23.320
Well, the entire time he's lived in LA, he's been in a relationship.
04:05:32.320
It sounds like he's a great guy, but like the, the, when, if, like he has a, he didn't
04:05:42.660
I mean, he had a girlfriend for like three years and they waited.
04:05:46.080
Is he like, he's more of a, but you said he's more of a relationship.
04:05:49.660
I'm, I'm speaking, I'm talking too much, but I'm just like, I have no worry about him
04:05:57.920
Even if he's not a virgin, like him having previous bodies.
04:06:02.980
If it was like a hundred or like 80 or 50, I would be concerned, obviously.
04:06:09.580
Because my only, my only thing is, is like when, at least for a guy, like I'm just thinking
04:06:15.220
And look, not all men are going to think like this, but like if, unless as a guy you're
04:06:19.860
not waiting until marriage, I feel like a lot of men in that situation are going to
04:06:25.300
be like, might, I'm not, I'm not, again, it sounds like a nice guy.
04:06:31.160
I just feel like a lot of guys in that situation are going to just put that girl on the back
04:06:36.220
burner, wait, wait, wait, and they'll be seeing other girls on the side.
04:06:42.160
I'm not saying that's the case, but I'm just like, a year, son.
04:07:03.680
If I was a man and a girl wanted me to wait a year to have sex with her, I'd be like,
04:07:19.000
Luckily, so I understand if he wanted to break up with me, I'd be like, okay, like I understand
04:07:24.000
That being said, I like to think he likes me enough that he sees this being a much longer
04:07:30.380
term thing than one year and is willing to wait a year to reap the benefits.
04:07:40.900
No, it all sounds, I think it's above the board.
04:07:51.500
I must have a lot more faith in humanity because I think that's great.
04:07:54.000
I don't, I don't automatically assume that he's like out there.
04:08:03.480
And I have people who are around him constantly that I think would tell me.
04:08:12.760
I mean, it could very well be the case that he's like, this, this is the girl I'm going
04:08:17.720
I don't know if he's thinking all that, but maybe.
04:08:24.240
No, but if he's, well, I mean, if he's like, whoa, this girl's fucking amazing.
04:08:30.140
Then I can a hundred percent see like in that circumstance, like.
04:08:40.580
Is he also like, I want to get to know somebody before I sleep with him?
04:08:48.080
I don't think we've had that conversation, but I, I think if he's going to date somebody,
04:08:59.480
I think if he's going to date somebody, he'd prefer to wait maybe not a year, but you know.
04:09:03.640
Brian, I feel like this goes against a lot of the arguments that you make that you would
04:09:06.980
prefer like, okay, given like the two options, you'd prefer a virgin compared to somebody
04:09:13.760
But if you met a girl that you were very serious about, you saw like a potential future with
04:09:24.600
That's how most men that I come into contact with are though.
04:09:29.520
They say they want someone with no experience, whatever.
04:09:33.480
You have to wait a year until we even think about it.
04:09:40.800
I feel like you, you tend to date or like you're, you're really interested in guys that
04:09:44.640
are like, most of the guys I've, um, hang out with or have tried to date, even though
04:09:48.880
I'm personally atheist, have been heavily religious.
04:09:54.320
I mean, they've always been in like the 20 to 23 year old range.
04:09:58.260
I think that definitely plays a factor, but I, I'm going to say no on that.
04:10:01.620
Cause I was also a very late bloomer and same thing.
04:10:13.760
No, I don't think it's that, I don't think it's that they're disgusted.
04:10:17.520
I don't think it's like if a virgin was down to fuck on the first night, they're not
04:10:21.200
going to be like, oh, uh, bitch, you're a virgin.
04:10:25.400
It would come up, like they would make advances and be like, hey, you know, I don't want to
04:10:29.020
do that cause I'm a virgin and they'd be like, oh God, you know, but like I'm coming
04:10:33.200
at it from like, if you're, if you're like you as a guy and you, you met a girl that you
04:10:37.640
were really down for and she said, Hey, this is my standard.
04:10:40.240
Wouldn't you assume that she obviously, especially if she's a virgin, like she applies that to
04:10:44.440
Would you not like take that as like, this girl's probably very like morally healthy.
04:10:52.580
And like, that's something that you would take into consideration being somebody that doesn't
04:10:58.000
I, I don't disagree with you there, but I think I can also have my own standard.
04:11:02.500
And that is that when it comes to a romantic relationship, look, I don't want a girl that's
04:11:07.960
super promiscuous, but I don't like, I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.
04:11:12.660
No, I think you can want to, you can be attracted to and want to date a woman with a low body count
04:11:19.640
Again, I'd like there, there are some women who are virgins that aren't trying to wait.
04:11:26.740
Like there are women who are virgins and maybe it's a couple of weeks, a month, a two months,
04:11:34.100
If you're the type of person who's only waiting a couple of weeks or a month or whatever,
04:11:37.140
chances are you're not going to be a virgin that late into life.
04:11:41.440
I mean, you'd be surprised, but sometimes it's not by for years.
04:11:50.720
You lost your virginity at 25 from the moments that you met the guy who you first had sex
04:12:12.320
I was so sick of having the same response of being like, Oh God.
04:12:17.860
I think a woman, you can have sex with a woman relatively early on and she could still
04:12:28.160
And even potentially, again, it's probably a little bit more rare, but even potentially
04:12:39.920
But I'm just saying from like the standpoint, like you're, you're, I mean, obviously
04:12:43.340
you're not necessarily assuming, but you're making the argument that like her boyfriend
04:12:49.980
Wouldn't you like, as that guy see value in the person that like takes that kind of stuff
04:13:00.740
I think, wouldn't you value somebody who is willing to.
04:13:06.980
Well, hold a standard, but like delay gratification.
04:13:09.660
So, if your, if your goal is to just get in and sleep with the girl, like that's instant.
04:13:21.500
There's, it shows, I'd say, lack of morals, but it shows, yeah, lack of self-control, lack
04:13:30.540
And if you have the standard that I'm not going to sleep with somebody, I would say until
04:13:35.140
marriage, but say a year, it's going to filter out a lot of guys who are not patient.
04:13:52.360
I've definitely like started hanging out with guys who are like, yeah, yeah, like a year
04:13:59.640
And then literally like a month and they're like tapped out.
04:14:02.960
It's like, okay, so I'm glad that I didn't do it.
04:14:05.480
I wish more women would have at least that standard because yeah, I think it would, it
04:14:10.820
would, it would take away from, it would lessen the amount of guys that are looking for just
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I think we would just have a better dating culture in general.
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Well, I mean, good for you, obviously for sticking to your principles and you know, what you want.
04:14:29.620
Uh, I mean, look, I would just say if, if there's a vert, like I'm dating a virgin and
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she's not had sex with a guy before me and she wants to like, we have sex on the third
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And I don't think that's going to like, that's not going to really have, in my view, any
04:15:01.620
No, but you were asking me, Brian, wouldn't you like if a girl's a virgin?
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I'm not saying it in a, I'm not saying it in a way to compare like whether she's ready
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I'm just saying like, don't you like, don't you like think that's a valuable trait?
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Well, the valuable trait is that she's a virgin.
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The length, if, if she meets me, like the, the length that she waits when it comes to
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Like, yeah, I understand that you just want to be the one taking the virginity so that
04:15:37.620
That's not really where I mean, that's what it sounds like to me.
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No, but say, well, yes, men value sexual purity in women.
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So do you think if you met a girl who you like, like really, really, really, really liked
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and she was like a year and then we'll think about it.
04:15:59.880
I mean, here's the thing, right, is I kind of know what I'm looking for in a relationship
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I'm not going to be like, you're lame for what I'm not.
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But for me, just because I've had relationships, I've dated women, like I part of what I want
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in a relationship and what I hope my partner wants is a sexual relationship also.
04:16:24.220
So, so like, look, I don't need to sleep with the girl on the first date, but I also don't
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If she, like, if she absolutely blew me away, not like in that way, but if she just blew
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me away, like she was a really fucking super attractive, seemed like, I mean, I don't know
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if I've felt this way about a girl, but like, does that sound depressing?
04:16:57.040
Like, but if she just like, I don't know what kind of girl, like, honestly, the type of girl,
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I feel like maybe this is going to sound fucked up.
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The type of girl that I would wait for would have to be so attractive in a myriad of ways.
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I'd like to think that my boyfriend thinks very, very highly of me and that's why he's
04:17:38.300
Let's just go around the table because I want to get the after show going.
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I feel like it matters if you're going to have sex with someone and, but I feel like
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it doesn't matter for like the whole world to know.
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Because oftentimes you hear this a little less from women.
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Do you think it's wrong, for example, for a guy to not want to date a woman because she
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has a high body count or because of her body count?
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I can see why I can agree with that at some point.
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Like, like, like I would understand why a man wouldn't want to date someone with a really
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But do you object to men making judgments, like choosing to date someone or not date someone
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I feel like I'd have to, like, it depends on like if they're just like, oh, she's run through
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or if they're like, or if, I don't know, depending like age and everything just has a lot of factors
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But I feel like I also don't think men should just judge women based on a number, but I
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I don't really think it matters because I just feel like that's like a personal like
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And like, I don't think you should judge someone off of a number.
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How many of those bodies would you say is work?
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And how many would you say is civilians, I guess?
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And so at what point did you pass the 100 threshold?
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I engaged in the activity once in my life, and that was it.
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Well, it wasn't really, I wouldn't label it a one-night stand.
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It was just my friend who I was attracted to, and it happened.
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That is something reserved for myself and whoever I'm in a relationship with.
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Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
04:21:07.000
Oh, let's do the, we'll switch it to the after show.
04:21:10.080
Guys, so the difference now for the after show, excuse me, guys, I can't speak anymore.
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Okay, we're going to do a brief after show, guys.
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We're going to do a little after show, then we're going to wrap up here.
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Would you date slash sleep with someone who has an incurable STD?
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Uh, yes, and I have slept with people who have herpes.
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It just seems like a lot of you are very uneducated on how you actually contract herpes.
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I think you're a little uneducated on how you contract herpes.
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No, seriously, like, most of the people in the adult industry have herpes.
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Um, when you have herpes, you have a responsibility to let the other person know when you're having
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You could be asymptomatic, but the other thing is, like...
04:23:07.000
From the research I've done, like, you know, when you have an acne breakout, it starts off
04:23:17.520
And then it gets a little bigger, bigger, bigger, and it reaches a...
04:23:34.640
If this is, like, a breakout, a whitehead or something, I assume, similarly, for herpes,
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Don't forget to check how many simps subbed to her since the show started.
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Okay, so, yeah, you could, like, at the very beginning of a breakout, before you're even
04:24:09.100
kind of aware of it, like, it's just, like, almost on the microscopic level, you could...
04:24:16.960
It definitely, like, the potential of contracting STDs.
04:24:20.760
I thought about it long and hard before I got in the industry, but it's something that
04:24:25.740
Well, let's have all the other girls answer this.
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Would you date or sleep with someone who has an incurable STD?
04:24:30.140
Not casually sleep with, but if it was, like, the love of my life, yeah.
04:24:35.180
I mean, herpes can only be spread through open sores.
04:24:42.600
If there was a way to prevent me contracting it, and...
04:24:48.240
Let's say there was a way to prevent me from contracting it, and it was somebody who I
04:24:51.020
really, really, really, really, really, really liked...
04:24:54.340
Like, if I want to marry this person, yeah, I'll get over it.
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Especially if it's not something that kills you.
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It's going to be unpleasant for a week out of the year.
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I guess kind of my shock to that is, like, you're an attractive girl.
04:25:31.520
I feel like you have probably quite a significant amount of optionality when it comes to men.
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So, given your optionality, you can probably find a guy...
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Let's say you have two guys, right, of equivalent attractiveness.
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I think he also has to meet, like, a bunch of these other criteria.
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Like, if this one guy didn't have this incurable disease, but he's probably going to lack a bunch of these other qualities that you want.
04:26:10.300
Most guys out there are not going to be willing to wait a year to have sex.
04:26:14.780
So, if the person that, like, you love them, and, like, there are all these amazing attributes, like, they've waited for an extremely long time.
04:26:22.740
Like, the likelihood of you finding someone like that is, like, you're going to be able to find somebody...
04:26:29.180
Like, you will be able to find somebody who is attractive and who doesn't have this incurable disease.
04:26:34.280
But they have to be attractive, don't have this incurable disease, and meet, like, a million other values.
04:26:46.180
If I'm just hooking up with somebody with an STD of any kind, whether it's incurable, curable, whatever.
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If this person has all the qualities in the world, that you're like, I want to marry this person...
04:26:59.600
At least for me, I don't care how fucking amazing the girl is.
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She could be the most physically attractive woman in the world.
04:27:12.900
For me, if she has herpes, that's a deal breaker.
04:27:20.740
That's what shocks me, because, like, you're an attractive girl, you have...
04:27:24.240
I do have an ungodly amount of people at my disposal.
04:27:26.900
You don't need to settle for a dude with herpes.
04:27:33.560
I mean, I'm only 19 years old, but I've looked the same since I was, like, let's say, 13.
04:27:42.720
Just like in the sexual disease aspect, yeah, you would be settling.
04:27:49.420
In the 19 years I've been alive, there have been...
04:27:54.200
I don't have a number for the amount of men who have pursued me or that I've pursued, vice versa.
04:27:59.220
And in that time I've been alive, there's been one singular man that I actually wanted to be in a committed relationship with.
04:28:05.240
So that's a very small, like, statistically, there's a very, very, very, very small pool of men that I would date.
04:28:13.420
Like, right now, off the top of my head, I can't name anybody but my boyfriend that I would willingly date.
04:28:17.900
What's, like, the silliest reason you've ever rejected a guy?
04:28:24.880
I mean, it's never been, like, something, like, a reason.
04:28:32.020
It's always, like, there's just something that's not there.
04:28:34.600
Like, I just don't feel a certain way about them.
04:28:36.880
To me, having herpes is kind of a big fucking deal.
04:28:46.580
Like, I'm sure you've rejected men for lesser reasons than fucking herpes.
04:28:55.720
You have definitely turned down men for lesser reasons than herpes, okay?
04:29:02.820
If you're an asshole, like, yeah, I'm gonna be like, okay, bye.
04:29:07.240
But I'm not gonna screw an asshole with herpes.
04:29:12.300
That doesn't have anything to do with your character or the way that you look.
04:29:17.160
Would I rather marry a woman who's, like, kind of fucking annoying but she doesn't have herpes
04:29:40.920
Listen, there are people that would pay for this seat just because I sat on it.
04:30:20.480
It's an itchy, like, okay, that's annoying for a week out of the year and then you never
04:30:24.480
I've heard some stories from people with ain't...
04:30:27.360
Okay, if you're the 1% of people who has the worst type of herpes that just really fucks
04:30:55.060
Guys, I think there's a dating app for dudes with herpes.
04:31:02.120
There's, like, a dating app for people with herpes.
04:31:43.020
Wait, I wanted to hear your actual answer, though.
04:31:49.560
so I feel like it'd be pretty hypocritical to say that I wouldn't.
04:32:09.420
If she had, like, literally, like, she's Reformed Baptist, Christian muscle mommy.
04:32:19.560
If it was the love of my life, like, just end up having herpes, I wouldn't mind at all.
04:32:22.940
It's also, like, not, like, they're not giving you cancer.
04:32:28.660
Maybe if it's, like, the most perfect guy in the world, yeah.
04:32:31.600
And it's the most perfect guy in the world, yeah.
04:32:38.500
And, like, 90% of the time, you get one herpes outbreak ever, and then never again.
04:32:44.200
So, that doesn't sound like the end of the world to me, like, truly.
04:32:48.260
And there's medication that, as long as you take it every day, you're fine.
04:32:52.380
And I don't even know what, HPV is just, like, warts, right?
04:32:59.620
That being said, I think that they come and go.
04:33:02.000
I think that HPV is the same tense for women, I believe.
04:33:05.760
Because, like, it can cause, I think, I could be wrong, it could cause, like, infertility,
04:33:14.440
And that's all men, in that case, they are literally giving you cancer, which would not
04:33:22.480
But, yeah, you can still appreciate that person from a distance.
04:33:25.400
Generally, the person that I'm going to find attractive is not going to.
04:33:29.820
Because they're not going to have slept around, generally speaking.
04:33:35.600
Where they, like, maybe accidentally brush lips with their mom once and their mom had herpes.
04:33:51.580
You can't be born with it, too, though, if a parent has herpes.
04:33:55.160
But, okay, I feel like you guys are using this scenario where it's like, whoa, this
04:34:01.420
But I feel if there's a guy who is just kind of like...
04:34:11.560
It's kind of like a girl who's like, well, I wouldn't date a short guy unless he's a billionaire.
04:34:20.640
Oh, how much does it, like, how much is it weighted?
04:34:22.240
Well, it's how much does he have to make up for this deficit by being exceptional in
04:34:28.340
Okay, so a guy who's 5'5", like an average guy who's 5'5", might not be deemed attractive
04:34:35.060
by a lot of women, but if you introduce, oh, he's a billionaire, oh, that's like retire
04:34:40.520
you money for life, and you're going to live like a 1% life.
04:34:46.100
A lot of women are going to look at that guy who's 5'5", and be like, you can provide a
04:34:53.140
Now, some women aren't, don't care so much about money, that's fine, you're making a
04:35:11.140
You can hire someone to carry around a step stool.
04:35:15.040
I'm a very tall woman, like, it's not like, no offense, it's not like I'm like 5'3",
04:35:21.840
But, okay, let me, um, let me ask, a guy who's, is, would you say like 6'5", that
04:35:29.840
I know you don't seem like, you'll date a guy who's shorter than you, right?
04:35:34.620
But with a guy who's 6'5", you'd be like, oh, sweet, let's go.
04:35:55.480
But he's 6'5", he's attractive, you like him, great.
04:35:58.200
But like, I think you are underestimating someone who's a billionaire.
04:36:12.400
Shania, I'm kind of sure I spotted you in Soho, New York the other day doing a photo shoot.
04:36:22.300
I just came back from Fashion Week, so thank you.
04:36:28.320
Any six, five guys wanting to date a supermodel?
04:36:37.500
So, by the way, guys, we are in the after show, so the threshold's lower.
04:36:47.280
Okay, so, a billionaire, but he's 5'5", you don't have to work another day in your life.
04:37:06.120
Let's say he's not ugly, but he's like an average guy.
04:37:09.160
He's a decent guy, but he's not, he's very short.
04:37:18.700
I don't think you understand, like, a billion dollar, a billionaire, like, how your life,
04:37:27.080
Are you trying to convince her otherwise, Brian?
04:37:30.800
It's just, like, really hard trying to wingman for someone right now.
04:37:42.240
Just from a, I don't know, maybe I'm a supermodel.
04:37:46.440
Well, and like I said, like, I will definitely date shorter guys.
04:37:52.400
But 5'7 was very short, so 5'5 is really short.
04:37:58.740
All right, we have Randy Stork, ladies on the panel.
04:38:01.680
What do you think men want in a marriage, and what do you bring to the table in a marriage?
04:38:07.300
Thank you very much, first off, for your patronage and donation.
04:38:13.060
So, what do you need to improve on most, since none of you are married?
04:38:28.080
And if you can, try to be brief here, because we have to end here pretty soon.
04:38:43.660
I would like to think I would be an okay mother.
04:39:31.380
Well, I feel like loyalty and all that is kind of a given.
04:39:34.040
But, I mean, I'd like to be a good future mother and a homemaker.
04:39:39.820
Were you able to check your phone for how many subs you've got in?
04:39:44.600
That came in, I think, from Bender the Offender, right?
04:39:50.180
So, GP, there's more to life than sticking a D in a hole.
04:39:54.540
The right girl is definitely worth waiting for.
04:39:57.200
Now, if Molly said I'd have to wait over a year, that'd be an issue.
04:40:00.920
Ariel, even with the pump cover, you're still in 1.5.
04:40:43.700
He's like a fucking Chad World of Warcraft player, guys.
04:40:53.100
Now, this Guild Frontier is on the frontier of the hardcore raiding scene.
04:40:59.360
This guy's been playing a rogue since the Bush administration, son.
04:41:26.960
This is the best fucking two-handed sword you can get in the entire fucking game.
04:41:37.520
The best fucking sword that you can get the entire...
04:42:14.880
Bobka, though, on the other hand, he's smart with his threat.
04:42:31.500
Anyways, I guess what I'm trying to say is, would you guys date a level 60 rogue in hardcore?
04:42:52.960
I was going to say, I've gamed in the past, but that was gibberish to me.
04:42:59.180
Are you down for a level 60 rogue in hardcore World of Warcraft?
04:43:03.740
I think you guys are kind of like retail players.
04:43:18.600
Like, okay, and like Wrath of the Lich King, they have the Woe token.
04:43:24.560
They introduced the Woe token, so it's basically like pay to win, classic.
04:43:40.780
I mean, I'm thoroughly impressed that Brian was able to remember all of that, but 1,000%.
04:43:48.120
We're primarily on YouTube, so we don't have the Twitch chat pulled up right now.
04:43:55.020
Bobka, do you have, do you have Pryo on Gressel?
04:44:03.680
Bobka, is he still, chat, is he still, I'm pulling up my Twitch chat.
04:44:07.760
Yo, does Bobka have, no, no, no, it's Twitch chat.
04:44:18.120
But he's 100%, he has Pryo on Gressel, guys, and seconds Thunderfury.
04:44:31.080
It drops from KT, Kel'Thuzad, last boss of Naxxramas.
04:45:08.580
Like, that's kind of a guild breaker, you know?
04:45:12.820
I've kind of been, like, noticing, like, a lot of these loot council guilds.
04:45:16.080
Like, there's a lot of corruption in the loot council.
04:45:22.080
When it comes to, like, the best loot system in, like, raiding World of Warcraft Classic.
04:45:51.540
What is, like, the number one loot system that I just listed?
04:45:56.280
Because you guys obviously know about that shit.
04:45:57.820
Um, I'm going to say the suicide kings, because I really like suicide boys.
04:46:08.820
I was going to make a your mom joke, but I feel like I can't, because of the way you
04:46:27.140
What's your favorite loot system in World of Warcraft Classic?
04:46:37.620
These girls don't have my fucking loot system twice.
04:46:47.080
Um, whatever, like, the 18th one that you listed was.
04:46:50.780
Like, favorite loot system in World of Warcraft?
04:47:05.660
So, I'm not a World of Warcraft gamer, but I mean, I know what loot systems are.
04:47:12.720
So, but, I mean, you know, I game so I can understand the lingo.
04:47:18.460
So, I don't know the nuances of the loot system in the World of Warcraft scene, and I can't
04:47:36.120
This is a test of your World of Warcraft knowledge.
04:47:39.360
If you're on Alliance, if you're on Alliance and you roll Priest, which class do you pick?
04:48:04.180
There's Dwarf Priest, Human Priest, and Night Elf Priest.
04:48:24.640
Night Elf, but I know you're going to say Dwarf, so...
04:48:52.920
Well, I got the Bobka rated, so thank you, man.
04:49:26.960
50% to 80% of American adults have oral herpes, HSV-1, which causes cold sores or fever blisters
04:49:47.500
Genital herpes caused by HSV-1 or HSV-2 affects one out of every six people in the U.S.
04:50:02.500
Nick, last thing on the World of Warcraft thing.
04:50:16.680
I don't know if you're going to be able to find this, to be honest.
04:50:25.700
She does not play World of Warcraft, but if she did, I don't know what she'd play.
04:50:41.420
Bobka, if you read me next time, I'll have it ready to go.
04:51:03.320
Guys can for sure wait a year or more, even when we have options.
04:51:11.080
I feel like it's not that hard to not have sex for a year.
04:51:31.920
I wouldn't even consider it a relationship if it wasn't monogamous.
04:51:34.120
Yeah, I was going to say, they're still in a monogamous relationship.
04:51:44.200
If a guy has never been in a serious relationship, they've been in relationships, but none were long-term.
04:51:59.060
To be honest, I think it could be more of a green flag than a red flag, especially if
04:52:03.500
a guy is coming to you with that information and telling you that he wants a serious relationship
04:52:47.300
Molly, I've met cats and dogs that I respect more than you.
04:53:19.480
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
04:53:36.520
There's usually a pageantry and a color commentator bounce off each other.
04:54:30.920
If you're from Bobca, if you're from Air Diet, drop us a follow.
04:54:40.180
Also, speaking of which, can you pull up the photo of you-know-who?
04:54:50.740
Wait, it's kind of zoomed in a little bit, right?
04:55:17.820
Wait, legit, if someone drops $500, you'll sing it.
04:55:26.880
We've been trying to get her to sing this song for like six months.
04:55:46.800
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
04:55:52.660
So, yeah, it's the same, but I got a bunch of tips.
04:56:05.420
Thank you to everyone who soup chats, donates, supports the show.
04:56:10.040
Like I said, like I've said before, we're pretty demonetized on YouTube.
04:56:14.960
Obviously, we're talking about sex and porn and all this stuff.
04:56:17.580
So like 99% of our videos get like demonetized or whatever.
04:56:23.440
Like we make a little bit of ad revenue, but it's like when you're in that section on YouTube
04:56:27.880
where it's not age restricted because then I think there would be no ads, but when it's
04:56:33.320
limited or whatever it's called, then it's like it's not a lot.
04:56:38.520
So your patronage really genuinely, when I say this, means the world.
04:56:49.420
I know almost most of you came from out of town.
04:56:51.820
You came from Vegas, LA, you're local, LA, LA kind of local, LA-ish, or yeah.
04:57:13.120
Any women who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
04:57:25.200
We got a good show planned on, wait, is today Tuesday?
04:58:05.420
We have a very, very special show for you guys.