The Most INSANE Show Ever?! FERAL CHAOS PANEL?! 2+2≠4?! She EXTORTS Men?! N SLIP? | Dating Talk #169
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In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast, we are joined by the hosts of The Crucible and The Crossed, and we discuss sex cult situationship, dating in a cult situation, and what it means to be single.
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welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast we had a little uh slip so we had to restart things
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so i'm going to consolidate the intro here i'm your host brian atlas thanks for tuning in tonight
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reflect the views of the whatever channel with that said and without further ado we're going to
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have the guests introduce themselves please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead
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hi my name is danielle everyone calls me d i am from new jersey i have an apartment there and i also
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have an apartment in new york city i am the ceo of the foot fetish place we have a location in
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midtown manhattan and we are also locating to our second location in new jersey and i am a journalism
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major all right welcome hi there i'm desir noel i'm a sex and relationship coach and a self-help author
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and a single mom of three here in socal born and raised on the streets and educated at uc irvine and
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california baptist university so i'm ready to go age age you don't ask a woman that i i graduated high
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school in 2004 i'll say that well i'm about to ask a woman that what's your age you can't do math
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38 there you go bingo hey that's girl you look good she went quick um hi i'm alex um i'm a multimedia
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artist and a creative advisor and consultant um as well as i do a few nights at the inn um and i am
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uh 26. all right welcome hi my name is emily i am 18 years old and i am from a small town called
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pahrump nevada and i am unemployed but i'm working on becoming a tattoo artist did you say pahrump
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nevada okay isn't that uh where there's like legal brothels um i don't know i just moved there but
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it's like yeah it's like right outside of vegas so okay got it are you in college or no okay what
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about you my name is ashley paola i'm 29 years old i'm from inland empire i am in the sales industry
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in the medical field i'm also a certified body sculptor and a podcaster
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hi my name is jessica i'm 25 years old i live in hawthorne i am a full-time student a full-time mom
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i am also a certified lash tech and i just got certified as a nutrition coach
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go ahead hello my name is kishwan clark i'm 30 years old and i'm from san diego
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uh so right now i'm actually a waitress at a high-end resort and i'm also studying to become
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a personal trainer all right welcome thank you my name is madison i'm 19 years old i'm from san
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diego california i'm a full-time student at santa barbara city college studying communication
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and i also work for the whatever podcast all right welcome everybody and then without further ado
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my caucasian andrew wilson take it away yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible
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i'm a political satirist a political analyst and i also enjoy doing some debating from time to time
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good to have you andrew and thank you for uh bringing that to our attention it's
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good that we figured that out sooner rather than later so thank you andrew going around the table
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once more what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single relationship married
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polycule harem sex cult um situationship friends with benefits whatever it may be if you're single
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how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead i am
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single ready to mingle my longest relationship has been 13 years from what age to what age from 14
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to about last year 2022 wait and you said you've been single for how long we broke up
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he was in jail and then he was like oh go do your own thing but then like he got mad about it and then
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we got back together when he got out but he was really with his co so there's a little like mix
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up around there so we were together 10 years then we i found out between the three years so
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we could say 10 or we could say 13. wait what year did you graduate from high school 12. 12 okay
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got it okay uh relationship status so i am i guess you would call me single i had about a 10-year
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relationship a typical marriage you know the whole thing had my kids with that guy we got divorced
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five years ago so i left him and then i now am all of the above i don't agree to i just go with the
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flow i i go with the coochie flow you could say whatever i want what does that mean it just means
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that i basically allow partners or men to prove themselves to me so i don't agree to monogamy i don't
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agree to any sort of structure of a relationship i just go out and have the connections and things that i
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desire and then i let men if they would like to try to be a husband or something to me i i basically
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give them the price of that whether that's with how much time i want of them how much sex i want how
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much money i want i just put it to each men and i allow them to kind of rise to the top with whatever
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ones have a more what you would consider a dating relationship with me or a sexual relationship or a
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friends with benefits i just kind of leverage and get my needs met so when you say leverage what do
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you mean um basically the same way that you would do business negotiations so a man comes to me and
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let's say he wants to take me out and i read vibes very well so i know that that means i would like to
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take you to dinner i would like to give you some drinks i would like to take you back and have sex
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with you so if i know that that's what he's coming at me with i set the price for judging on his
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character where he's at in life his vibe the whole thing i say okay if that's what you want from me
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then it's going to cost you my rent this month let's say he's a very kind of low vibe guy and i
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read that and it's not somebody i would really want to have a relationship with but i need my rent paid
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and i got a little bit of time so i give him that price he either agrees to it and i go on the date
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with him and then i never agree to doing anything sexual with people unless that's what my body wants
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to do at the real time so i make that clear to the man go to the dinner with him he paid my rent let's
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say and let's say i'm not feeling it i say thank you very much i had a great time you got your couple
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hours with me you got to have a nice conversation i probably gave you some great ideas for your business
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i gave you some great ideas for moving forward and you have a nice day or all the way to i really
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like the guy good quality man i ask him to take me to ice cream and then i sleep with him whenever i
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want to sleep with him that type of thing so it just depends on what you're bringing me and so you said
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that the the price for that is your rent no it just depends on the man socal rent or texas rent
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it's 2700 socal rent you're okay so for a man to spend a night with you the cost is 2700 it just
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depends on the man some some men are my friends and i like having sex with them and i feel safe with
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them and they might bring me a burrito and we fuck if i can say that some men like i said their
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vibration their energy is very kind of toxic and low vibration and that's my test it's kind of like
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women test men right so however we do it we all do it we see how much attention he's going to give
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us we see how available he is or not we see if he lives with his mother we see if he has a d how much
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does it cost if he lives with his mom does it cost more or less like do you do charity like okay so i'll
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give you an example i'll give you an example so i have all these guys in their 20s sliding into my dms
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and they want to go out with me so what i'm doing is i understand this is not a man i'm going to sleep
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with this is not a man i'm ever going to think of as a husband but you know what i like that he shot
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his shot and you know what this guy with where he's at in life logically he needs to be going and getting
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himself like a single mom stripper and so i think logically okay let me help raise this man up and
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what i say is i just did this 27 year old man i could tell maybe he has an apartment or some
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roommates maybe he lives with his parents but he's at that phase of life you can't afford a woman like
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me so i agree to what can he afford he could afford to take me to lunch so i say listen i'll meet you
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for lunch my son needs new summer clothes like summer shorts how about this i'll meet you for lunch you
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can have me for like two hours and we can just on amazon right there you can order my son the stuff he
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wants because you need to practice providing for that child of that single mom that's at your level
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so let me help you practice and then i'm going to even coach you through how to have eyes for the
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woman that you're qualified to be with right now and then i tell him she's a stripper she's a stripper
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at a strip club she's a single mom she probably has one little kid and these are the things that you
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want to look for of being able to tell the good women versus the toxic just strippers who are just
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career strippers and they're just working you for their money because there's signs of how to know
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there's signs of how to tell a good woman even if she's in a non-traditional profession
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there are signs there so i will coach this young man through that that in and of itself is literally
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worth thousands of dollars of my consulting time as a therapist as a professional i agreed to do it
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for a lunch and maybe a hundred bucks of buying my son his summer clothes now if he agrees to it
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what a brilliant freaking guy word if he doesn't we don't go on the date he loses it so that's how i do
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it you mentioned low vibration yes what so what is a low vibration okay so a low so we are all
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actually vibrating energy we are not solid form we are literally atoms we are a cluster of atoms that
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appears to be solid but there is space in between each atom and it's vibrating right so what we are
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calling emotion that's an energetic vibrational frequency so shame carries a particular frequency
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for example and the thing is we have not been taught how to properly process or handle any of these
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more difficult feeling emotions think when you get embarrassed and your cheeks flush it has a
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physical effect on our body these different emotions right so we have not been taught that it's okay to
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feel shame or embarrassment so when it comes it's supposed to just correct us it's supposed to say
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hey you might want to put a sweatshirt on that you attract your vibration exactly so when i say
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low by you're attracting these low vibration men because you're low vibration uh no by your logic
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because i don't believe in that you can't control the energy coming at you what you can control is
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which energy you allow into your close space so when these low vibration guys come so they're stuck in
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their childhood issues so they are stuck in shame they are stuck in fear they are stuck in scarcity they
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stuck in pride ego all of this so it makes a low vibration because these things are literally weighing
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them down no i get that but if they're in low vibration so that's how i test that's how i test i
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gave him they can only attract low vibration exactly so if he's coming at me and i'm essentially inviting
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him to raise his vibration i'm inviting him to trust a healthy woman who knows him can see through him
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and can raise that logic he would only be able to attract you as if you were a healthy woman
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he would only be able to attract you if he was healthy but because he's not healthy he's attracting
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you no no because he's unhealthy he says no to the deal if he was willing to step up and be a little
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bit healthier he would agree to the deal if you're high vibration why would you agree to that deal
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if you're not i didn't agree to it i'm not going to lower because i have the wisdom over the years
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to know how high to set the price so that's how i weed the men out okay okay so this guy for example
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he was so like low vibration he wasn't even willing to spend 150 bucks to spend an afternoon with a woman
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like me that's some date right that's some low vibe shit no i was gonna say 150 on a first date
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it's kind of well when you get to my level first date that's nothing normal first dates for me are
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thousands of dollars that's that's insane that's not that's not really what's happening usually it's
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like free to like to go to people's time like yeah yeah yeah like it's a first date you're getting
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to know the person this isn't like you're my girlfriend i'm gonna spend thousands of dollars on
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you but here's the thing when you're an expert psychoanalyst you don't need that you know the
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person instantly so i have that gift i don't need all this time to get to know a man i don't need it
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i know right away almost like what you would think of as a psychic right into you right away i know
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exactly what you got going on because i'm such a master at the human psyche i'm very educated again
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i'm not a typical woman walking around i can coach women through some basic skills you don't have to
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be my level but it's street smarts you read vibes you don't read what they say you're reading between
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the lines ladies and that's how you do the choosing these guys are marketing they're using sleazy
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marketing tactics to sell you some shit don't buy that shit read the vibe excuse me they're buying
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you what if what if he doesn't have the skills that you have and he then i'm not his girl then
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you might be his girl or you might be his i'm definitely not his right but you see what i'm
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saying there's plenty of variety out but why don't you just go for a man that's on your caliber like
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what's the point of that's how you i know but what's the point of entertaining these guys that you
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know are it's a business i don't entertain them but you do you allow them to take you out on dates and
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pay for your son's clothes you know you didn't understand he didn't accept so i didn't go but
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but if he did accept why entertain that you know that's that's a pitiful man he like he's not even
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important enough to his fucking basketball shorts i know but that's what a job is for that is my
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job or you go for a good man that can afford your son and is okay with you having other children he
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could take care of you i think you're missing the point i'm a consultant and a sex and relationship
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coach this is my business okay we're talking in dating yeah but we're talking like we're talking
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and i run my dating life as my business kill two birds so there you go win-win so i make my money
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dating in a sense i make my money dating and then like right now one of my clients he's the husband
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with benefits type of guy he pays my bills if i need he takes me on nice trips we talk to each other
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he helps me with business connections he gets what he wants and i get and you um can you explain for
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me because i've been listening for a little bit how you would distinguish yourself from a
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prostitute it's it's honestly not it's the same type of energy exchange we call it whatever you
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want i have no taboo about it we're all doing that you're going to your job clocking in clocking out
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doing something that you don't necessarily want to do guess what i get to do i only do things i want
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to do so that sounds like a sugar relationship then i mean we can call it you can call it whatever you
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want it doesn't matter it's just an energy exchange and that's how you do it and honestly if you think
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about it this is how we do everything in life everything's a negotiation here's my energy what
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are you willing to give me in exchange for for this energy but you say you're like a dating and
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relationship coach right so how is it that you're going about having shallow interactions like looking
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at transactions there's nothing shallow about thinking you're there's nothing relationship dating
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expert because that's not love that's that's a business i'm not operating on love i'm operating
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on a business and if i fall in love in doing my business like i have friends like i said i have friends
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with benefits i love them they love me there's no money exchange there's energy there's whatever
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but when i have strange met strangers that i've never met this is my testing process i'm gonna treat
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you like this is a job this is my profession if you if you agree and you pass my test and you
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show me you're a good man then guess what things change i have a question yeah i'm not disagreeing
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i'm just trying to understand and process everything i think we all are what if he is trying to
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distinguish you as well i don't play that fucking game i have nothing to prove i have the pussy no
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no no like he like he no but yeah okay it's true girls it's our commodity like your body is your
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most priceless commodity why are we your body is the most priceless it is it 100 it creates life
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a hundred percent of course it creates life without my body this human population wouldn't continue so
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what's gonna happen when you're 80 and nobody is gonna be in my my pussy or you can't okay medically
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what if medically you can't because that happens i work with seniors and there's a lot of seniors i
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i got a hand i got a mouth i have nobody wants to actually die alone i'm not gonna die alone are
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you kidding me i'm surrounded by people who love you yeah but you're talking about a hand like your
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own hand is not the same as a man that actually loves you and holding you and being around you
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i have those guys who love me i know but care of a 99 year old man and he had all the money billionaire
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yeah no he never got married never had kids so when he died the money went to his fourth cousin
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that he never met his wraparound terrace penthouse in new york city went to the state and okay it went
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to the state it didn't go to his family it was gonna go to the state it went to the fourth cousin
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because they found someone that was they had to find someone but he never met the guy that's pretty
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sad yeah but that's he assumed that you don't even have any children to bring that money down
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to they could just take that money and start businesses or so imagine there's a there's a
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bunch of these guys out here ladies who are just looking for companionship they're honestly just
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looking for companionship because they thought that life was about money so they spent their whole
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lives chasing money only to end up realizing i just actually want companionship so when i say
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pussy what i'm really meaning is feminine energy feminine energy is so valuable and at the end of
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the day men if you bring them healthy authentic feminine energy which guess what takes their ego
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down a notch sometimes because it taking a man's ego down is actually helping his soul emerge so he
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rises up as being a better man if he handles that well if he gets all egotistical about it and doesn't
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listen alissa wants brian's small donated two hundred dollars hey brian the single mom from last
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show has been blasting stories and she says she would smash you and your dead bod would you yeah i saw
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that also would any of you ladies have carnal knowledge of brian uh so uh first off it's not small
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it's average get it right secondly look she's very nice i always appreciate people who offer pushback
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makes for an interesting show and i think we would like to get her back on eventually from a dating
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perspective look she was she's an attractive woman ex-stripper xof girl two kids in the middle
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of a divorce argumentative kink history i'm not cool with she domed a male uh if it wasn't for all that
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maybe um jesus christ yeah and i guess they're asking if you guys would
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date me basically cardinal knowledge date me i'm pretty much the same uh so we'll start over here
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with you would would you if i would date you yeah if you'd date me you're not my typical type i'd like
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athletic men if i'm being honest i like well i gotta lose weight she's not she's not wrong i gotta lose a
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little weight because i work at it all the time and if i have to go to the gym constantly and have my
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body looking right and tight i expect my man to do the same i got a dumpy though does that change
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anything if you got a fat ass that's good does that change anything right madison it helps yeah
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madison sure no i don't know you always bring it up oh but his face is getting red look how red your
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face is they bring it up they bring it up you guys feminine energy all right what about what about
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you um same i go to the gym a lot and uh just two guys i gotta lose some weight these girls talking oh
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dad buds i like dad but it's fake news boys it is i'd say that all the time i don't think so you're
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not my my usual type yeah you know like white i guess yeah i mean i've dated one white guy well he's
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really italian but yeah no i don't think so it's hard out here um no
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not really you know she's gonna test you out you know brian to be honest with you what's so sexy
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is if a man can handle me going head to head with his ego that's so sexy so actually well no i think
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i have hope for you because you did come back and apologize i could tell you genuinely tried to do it
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the best you could i understand you're on a lot of pressure this is probably your livelihood you make
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money doing this and i understand the dynamics so yes or no yeah i i would say i would give you a
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chance oh look at that and i would even i would even submit to you if you were willing if you were
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willing to let me dom that little ego that pops out once in a while i would i would be your baby girl
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and cover him i'm a baby girl i'm a baby girl but only to a true daddy who always undersells and
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over delivers is it my turn go yeah go ahead i would oh there you go i just haven't i just don't
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know you enough i want to go home i have i just need to ask you i just need to ask you are are you
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under the influence of anything no i'm just excited i've been on the airplane for six hours and you did
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put her on blast she's nervous poor thing no even before that yeah there's there's like this deadness
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in the eyes yeah it's just that's associated with people who typically are on no narcotics
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she offered me the sativa and she didn't take it she didn't take it the drink and i gave her a drink
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did you drink are you sober i drank as much as you took two sips of her cocktail or whatever
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okay you should ask him if he's on i've been in a two-hour car ride okay so you're tired you're tired
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i didn't sleep last i got on a plane when did you wake up five a.m eastern time correct yeah
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five a.m eastern time so that's like two a.m pacific time okay i packed got on a plane yeah okay
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all right she's tired she's tired and there's energy she's tired she's not on drugs okay andrew
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all right this is what we're uh by the way everybody else i i apologize some messages came
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through but the moderation uh delay was on so i'm going to do them really quick then we're going to
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get everybody's relationship status we'll come back to a lot of the stuff that you said
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rickson she has a speech impediment she means 304 vibration amazing grift to turn sex work into
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seemingly legal work you receive 1099s or skip the two behold the height of narcissism
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i think that was directed at you maybe i could be wrong so i guess i'm i guess is the question do i
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pay taxes i don't know what the question is do you do like 10 do you get 1099s yeah i pay my taxes
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just like anybody else i have an s corporation so my only fans business obviously gets and i wrote my
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book so all my book royalties go to my but like you said that the guys who you choose to sleep with
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they have to pay your rent which is 2700 no no i'm not saying i'm not saying they have to i'm
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simply saying if it's a man is it like under the table or are you like reporting that on 1099s
00:26:01.440
like are you sending them 1099s like do you get w9s from them and then like send them in 1099 do you
00:26:07.600
do that when your grandma sends you a christmas gift oh but i thought this is your work i thought
00:26:13.280
this is your like work right i mean it's no different than if you um go buy your weed at one
00:26:20.080
of these places where you have to you can only do it by donation and it has to be a gift right it's
00:26:25.280
loophole they still have to report that to the it's loopholes it's loopholes i'm pretty sure they
00:26:29.360
still have to wait if it's a certain amount but to be honest my income is very low you have to send
00:26:33.920
it if it's over 600 you have to send it if i had like a crush on you and i want to say here's the
00:26:41.920
no because here's the thing i get these guys to co-sign for me so for example this guy who might pay
00:26:47.200
my rent he co-signed for it so it's his apartment too technically for a month oh for a month you get
00:26:53.360
someone to do that on the first date i highly doubt that what someone no no this would be guys that i
00:26:58.960
already have like had a pre-establishment anyways we'll get into it in a bit maddie can you read
00:27:02.720
these three chats just while we have them here and then we'll get relationship status does this
00:27:07.360
woman realize she's admitting to the world she's willing to prostitute for a burrito what kind of
00:27:12.160
tests do these men need to do when they're done with this harlot yeah i don't know what the question
00:27:18.880
is like do you make them take like an sat test or like lsat we have conversations just like anybody
00:27:25.360
else i don't know like not okay i don't know uh this one maddie so in other words rather than
00:27:31.920
working on and saving her marriage she decided to go from loyal wife to single 30 foe putting her own
00:27:37.360
needs in front of your own children so sad i feel for the children well guess guess what their dad
00:27:43.680
only made 35 000 a year with a family of five and guess what this guy was so controlling and insecure he
00:27:51.280
wouldn't let me work so you do the math i needed to leave in order to make a better life for my
00:27:56.560
children and i picked doing work that allowed me to be home safely raising my own kids and i'm a sexy
00:28:03.680
soul so i'm very comfortable doing these things and i would have been doing it anyway for free so
00:28:08.160
might as well get my bills paid for free hold on i would be i would be going on dates or having
00:28:13.920
sex with people or having conversations with people while you were married
00:28:19.600
shit well i had my first marriage where we had agreed to monogamy we were christians and we had
00:28:25.360
the whole typical setup so i never would have done that in my marriage you've been married multiple
00:28:28.880
times and then my second time i tried it again and we did a non-traditional thing so i didn't do it
00:28:34.400
legally we were not i never agreed to monogamy we had an open relationship so you got married in a
00:28:39.840
church the first time not in the church but you said you've been you were married a second time so
00:28:45.040
the second time we had our own ceremony and we did it our own way it was non-traditional because
00:28:50.000
i wasn't going to agree to any of that anymore it just didn't fit me and how many kids do you have
00:28:54.960
i have three children i had them with my husband my first husband yeah they all have the same dad you
00:28:59.520
you said he was making 35k 35 000 a year what was he doing for work he was like he's like a grunt
00:29:05.280
at a law firm he's does plumbing legal no he does plumbing he's like their
00:29:10.800
bitch he does electrical he was a plumber at a law firm he's just a jack of all trade that was like
00:29:17.680
like a handyman yeah kind of like a handyman he would do some it stuff for them like you know he's
00:29:22.960
a he's a very smart jack of all trades guy but his level of worthiness was so low that he was never
00:29:29.600
working himself up in life i even went and worked at cal baptist full time even though i didn't want
00:29:35.520
to so that he could go to college for free and he said he wouldn't let you work huh i thought you
00:29:41.600
said he wouldn't let you work he he wouldn't i went and did i disobeyed you could say i disobeyed
00:29:47.520
and got this job because i was like look you can go to college for free i'll be a secretary i i moved
00:29:53.200
my mom out from colorado to watch the kids so i was supporting my own mother because she needed a job
00:29:58.880
anyway and i was trying to provide a way for this man to get a college education so he could provide
00:30:04.240
better for him i literally did everything i could yeah technically it wasn't that controlling if you
00:30:09.360
were able to do that well no he was so mean to me because i got the job i i only lasted three months
00:30:14.880
because the marriage got so difficult because i had disobeyed and he wasn't okay with it so i had to
00:30:20.480
leave the job and then we're back to being broke let's back up a little bit if you don't keep it for a
00:30:25.680
second yeah hide it for a second how how exactly did you disobey when you're flying your mom out and
00:30:30.720
all of this he must have consented to at least some of that he had to have right you can't just
00:30:34.720
i didn't fly with your mom at like one one o'clock my mom was homeless we're gonna sneak you out here
00:30:40.000
into the house without him knowing you didn't do that no my mom was basically homeless so she was just
00:30:45.680
basically couch surfing around in arizona and i didn't fly her out i had her drive out and i asked her
00:30:52.560
can you watch the kids i will get you i will rent you a room in another lady's house and i i set
00:30:59.120
everything up in order it was like me killing two birds with one stone for my family so i saw it as
00:31:06.320
here's an opportunity for me to make sure my mom is safe her job is going to be to watch my children
00:31:11.760
which i felt okay with it's their grandma and i'm gonna go be a secretary at the university where i got
00:31:19.120
my master's degree at in order to bring in some extra money to basically pay for my mom's life
00:31:25.440
and to allow my husband who is obviously stuck in his financial development it will allow him to go
00:31:32.320
to college for free because that was the program you could either go to college for free or your
00:31:37.200
spouse if they hadn't had a degree yet could go for free i already had a master's degree by the
00:31:41.360
and he didn't agree to any of this he okay it's one of those things where you know what wives do we're
00:31:46.640
like come on he went along with it not very happy about it but it made logical sense to it it made
00:31:53.840
logical sense so i don't understand so this is why i don't understand it's like you say he's he was
00:31:59.200
super controlling so controlling wouldn't even let you work and then we find out well it was very
00:32:03.200
covert it was let me finish let me finish hang on i just let you go let me at least ask the question
00:32:09.280
sure but then we find out well wait a second no that's not really what happened what actually
00:32:13.920
happened was your mom who's homeless he moved into his house right no no we didn't move her
00:32:18.480
into the house i i rented her a room with another single lady she didn't live we had a little tiny
00:32:23.600
apartment we had no money we had a two-bedroom apartment with wait wait wait wait you just said
00:32:28.480
that part of the reasons you went to work is so that you could support your mom so i could kill two
00:32:32.960
birds with basically making sure that my mom's needs basic needs were met of having housing being safe
00:32:40.080
and i could have this job that offered me this perk of letting this man get a degree for free at a
00:32:47.920
private university that would have cost us fifty thousand dollars so i was trying to i was trying
00:32:54.000
to create an opportunity that he couldn't say no to is what you could say and at the end of the day
00:32:59.520
he went along with it because it made logical sense but he wasn't okay with it so he made my life kind
00:33:06.080
of hell i don't well i don't understand the the the conflict here so because you don't understand
00:33:12.880
you obviously don't understand the dynamics in these super religious um structures of a relationship
00:33:18.720
so that's why i'm asking the problem is is like as let's try to have this as a conversation so i can
00:33:23.840
ask at least some questions um before you cut in in the mid-sentence otherwise i can't even ask
00:33:29.680
so just kind of backing up what i don't understand here is mom moves in right you get a job mom doesn't
00:33:37.440
move in she she moves in with another lady that i agreed to pay 500 a month for her to live there
00:33:43.680
to rent a room she's not living in our apartment so this wasn't one of those situations where your
00:33:48.640
husband was like well if you're going to do that you need to financially support her i'm sure he probably
00:33:54.480
said something like that yeah i don't remember this does sound logical to me so it sounds a long
00:33:59.760
time to me if i mean we could get him on the phone well look that's your mom and uh if she's homeless
00:34:05.120
maybe she's you know maybe he thinks that she's a screw-up or something like that well to be honest
00:34:10.080
to be honest i sold it to the man more like here's your ticket to get a college degree finally
00:34:16.080
the mom thing was kind of just that's how the kids will get taken care of it was neither here nor
00:34:20.480
there to be honest it was more about i'm creating an opportunity for this man to get educated in
00:34:26.720
order to move our family up the financial ladder even if it took four or five years five seconds
00:34:34.560
finish your point please and then andrew can respond okay so so just real quick um what if he didn't want
00:34:40.320
to what if he didn't want to go to college well obviously at the end of the day wait stop stop stop
00:34:45.120
stop stop stop stop stop stop stop look andrew lets you speak you gotta let him finish his sentence
00:34:51.600
before you respond go ahead andrew yeah yeah just just and the thing is is uh that's the most productive
00:34:57.360
way for us to converse by the way it's i i want to hear what you have to say but i need you to hear
00:35:01.840
what i'm saying as well otherwise otherwise we're just going to come to bad conclusions so uh if if
00:35:07.120
husband says well i don't want to go to college that's not my thing maybe i want to do a blue collar
00:35:11.520
thing or work myself up uh you know from the bottom of a job or something like this um you say well but
00:35:17.840
i want to create this opportunity for you but how are you creating an opportunity for somebody
00:35:21.920
if they don't want to do that thing isn't that actually you who's the one who's being pushy yeah
00:35:27.520
you being the one who's being controlling wouldn't that be the opposite of him being controlling yes you're
00:35:32.640
right and so that is the toxic part of our relationship that i learned i picked the wrong guy and he was not
00:35:41.520
he was not the man that i ultimately wanted to partner with or raise children with because he
00:35:48.960
didn't have that tenacity or that work ethic or that drive and so yes it was very toxic of me and
00:35:55.360
i understand why you know our relationship we stayed together basically because we were christians and
00:36:04.000
we didn't believe in divorce andrew your response and then i gotta move things on yeah yeah no problem
00:36:09.120
uh just last quick last response who wanted the divorce it was me i left yeah okay so you were
00:36:16.240
controlling and it became toxic and then you well he was controlling as well he was we like attracts
00:36:23.600
like so we were two peas in a pod just on the different end of the spectrum i don't believe that
00:36:29.200
like attracts like it does that's literally donated two hundred dollars you say he only made thirty
00:36:37.520
thousand dollars but yet you decided to marry him and have three children with him anyway and you
00:36:42.800
basically just admitted that you put your own needs in front of your family number three of foe 20 second
00:36:48.720
response if you want to yeah i mean yeah okay uh maddie i'm gonna have you read this valdiv good to see
00:36:56.960
in the chat slingshot good to see you back in the chat man thank you appreciate it mads reed
00:37:04.160
does your worth about as much as kiki in the back please shut up no one cares i'd much rather hear from
00:37:09.520
the pouty-faced latinas and the bunny queen does your literally killing society all right valdiv thank
00:37:18.560
you appreciate it and then we have pelagic red's going down okay and then spyro uh i did see oh that's
00:37:28.800
weird it's not letting me pull it up yeah can you try i don't know oh boy
00:37:44.240
i did apologize to the man oh i think it's back i think it's back
00:37:53.520
what's going on today boys our stream quality is uh i think it's okay nick i think it's okay
00:38:00.400
uh i think we're okay right yeah andrew can you hear us you can hear us okay we had a dip in our uh
00:38:09.280
bitrate uh okay so let me just re-pull those reds going down spyro you'll have to shoot me a dm on
00:38:17.280
instagram if you want to do bitcoin uh if you want uh so thank you man appreciate it and then pelagic
00:38:23.440
thank you for the uh very generous super chat appreciate it buddy okay we gotta get everybody's
00:38:27.440
relationship status so let's get yours all right go ahead all right well i am currently in a committed
00:38:33.760
relationship for almost a year and my longest relationship was five years all right and if it's
00:38:41.280
my understanding is correct you're currently in an age gap relationship yes so you're 26 and he's
00:38:47.680
53. he's 53. wow and you both bonded over uh you you both had uh illnesses is that correct yes we
00:38:57.680
both have um chronic health conditions um and we met because i was walking with a cane in the in the
00:39:05.040
movie theater that we were watching and he just approached me and just asked about it and he has
00:39:10.400
a terminal illness so um is it cancer or um no it's um it's a pancreas thing okay um so he doesn't have
00:39:21.680
too long to live but sorry to hear that very sad but it just brings us closer together on multiple
00:39:28.320
levels and being present in the moment and sorry you said he's 50 health three 53 okay and uh i had
00:39:37.760
another question on that so uh he was was he previously married he was never married no children no children
00:39:45.760
okay and are you guys aren't married no and he pretty much has nobody in his life besides
00:39:51.600
you or well he he has a sister um and then he has um a couple of trustees who will handle everything
00:40:00.560
after he passes are you getting anything in the estate or um i'm not sure but i do know that i am
00:40:06.320
welcome to stay at the place where i made home um with the lovely ladies who who live there with his
00:40:12.400
sister and um and um another woman who is actually was his oldest girlfriend and is his number one
00:40:19.680
all right what about you um i am in a relationship right now and my longest relationship was 10
00:40:28.160
months how long have you been seeing this current um we just started dating like
00:40:34.640
three weeks ago all right three weeks how did you guys meet um we met online
00:40:41.840
tinder like a dating app no like like snapchat he added me snap people meet on snapchat well i'm 18
00:40:49.360
so like that's like a different one yeah you could just randomly add people on snapchat yeah yeah okay
00:40:56.640
um i currently or i recently met someone and we're talking and my longest relationship is four years
00:41:02.560
when you say uh how recent like in the past month so you've been like in the talking stage for a month
00:41:08.080
yes okay and also age gap oh how old is he i'm 29 and he's 43. 29 43 okay um i'm currently in a
00:41:20.240
relationship my longest is three years um i'm not sure if mine qualifies for an age gap it's just five
00:41:27.120
years but i mean it's not yeah that's and uh wait you've been dating this current guy for how long
00:41:33.280
um we've been together for um it's hard to give a time just because it's it's very complicated our
00:41:42.960
our situation how long have you known him three years three years yeah and you said your longest
00:41:50.640
relationship was three years when did that relationship end um that one was my high school
00:41:54.800
sweetheart i see okay this guy we i've known him for three years and we've been together for three years
00:42:02.000
years but and he's i have a child with him oh but right now it's a it's a difficult situation
00:42:09.600
yeah he took some milk whoa what the nick nick nick oh my oh my gosh uh okay so you you have just one
00:42:18.480
child yes okay and you guys have been kind of like off off and on for three years for practically my
00:42:23.920
entire pregnancy into everything yeah okay so he's the i'm assuming he's the father yes of the child okay
00:42:29.520
we got some hot mamas here all right what about you well i'm not a mom but i am single and i'm
00:42:36.880
currently dating um i started dating back in september online dating mainly um and my longest relationship
00:42:43.200
is a year and a half all right and you said you're currently dating uh so are you in like a talking
00:42:49.360
stage or i'm talking to someone right now this one's actually really recent literally a couple days ago
00:42:54.480
have you guys been on a date or no he actually he lives in a different state oh okay how did you
00:43:00.800
guys meet instagram no so my friend satara she actually works she she travels a lot for work so
00:43:08.000
she went to she went to seattle and then she was on uh i think it was bumble and then she was looking
00:43:14.160
for guys on bumble they both matched and then he saw a picture of me and her on her profile so then
00:43:18.720
he asked her oh who's your friend is she single and then so she connected us both so we started
00:43:25.360
talking to instagram and then we just started talking okay and is this the only guy that you're
00:43:30.800
talking to yep the only one you don't have like a roster or anything like that no i'm not like that
00:43:37.200
i'm not like that no okay all right uh but you guys are planning to meet then that's the plan yeah
00:43:44.080
yeah yeah so i'm just laughing like you guys have like anything concrete like you're gonna
00:43:49.360
you're gonna go there he's gonna come here in a month we literally just started talking about that
00:43:52.800
today this is just a random conversation right now because i literally told well i'm gonna be on
00:43:56.480
the podcast you want to watch so yeah i don't know if he's watching right now so this is kind of
00:43:59.920
different oh shit okay yeah all right hi all right cool so we've got everybody's relationship status
00:44:08.720
uh i'm trying to think what else we had to uh hit on nick you could hide that one by the way from
00:44:14.640
him but i think we can get into some of my pre-show notes here initially to oh wait hold on
00:44:26.560
uh yeah i'm happily married have been for well over a decade
00:44:30.080
all right rock and roll so i'm gonna get into some pre-show notes here i've got quite a few tonight so
00:44:36.240
we are gonna try to get through them as quickly as possible but i'm gonna start with you so hold
00:44:43.360
on so many i'm scrolling through yeah i wrote a lot no not even you just from everybody uh so wait did i
00:44:53.040
skip past it or how many notes do i have sorry guys give me one moment alex right yes okay so in
00:44:59.600
terms of your relationship history you said that you've been in long-term relationships at one point
00:45:03.520
you were engaged um yes but you never got married no okay who called off the engagement me um i kind of
00:45:13.680
it was um actually um after it was actually to my um ex-best friend who i've been best friends with
00:45:23.680
high school and we also only reconnected after graduating and we've been talking for a few months
00:45:30.480
and then i proposed and then i proposed did you have a ring um he got me a ring and then i got him
00:45:38.480
a ring after that um did you get down on the yeah yeah no um because it was actually over the phone
00:45:46.400
because we were we were kind of um kind of long distance but it was right after i ended well we
00:45:54.000
mutually ended my five-year relationship so i was kind of a little bit vulnerable and just um okay
00:46:00.880
and reconnecting so and then we were planning on getting married um two months in and then i actually
00:46:07.520
kind of figured out i might be a lesbian instead and uh broke everything off wait how long were you
00:46:15.360
dating him um for about um three months but i've known him for about like six years he he was my
00:46:24.080
best friend in high school so what's your orientation are you bisexual um yeah i mean i i go with the flow
00:46:30.560
whoever i meet who i vibe with you date men and women yes okay and you also said you in addition to
00:46:36.080
that you're you've been in polyamorous situations dating six to ten people is ten people the most you've
00:46:44.320
dated at a time or more um at a time yes now just to for better understanding like with polyamory was
00:46:52.560
it like a 10 person couple no or like you were dating 10 individual people i was i was taught i was
00:47:00.640
dating 10 individual people one of them was a couple um and then a couple of them were online and then
00:47:07.840
a few were um just here and there um so okay so real quick i just wanted to know too uh you have kind
00:47:18.000
of a strange way of speaking um where's the accent from um i'm originally from russia okay i thought
00:47:26.240
i thought maybe you were but i wasn't sure nice little little like uh but how how long have you been in the
00:47:33.120
states um let's see since 2009 2009 and uh basically centered around the west coast um i have been
00:47:42.480
kind of all over from cal um in california from like l.a area to bay area and i live like everywhere
00:47:49.440
in between that's like the first time i've heard a russian accent but kind of mixed in with valley
00:47:55.200
girls so i was like what the hell what about i was like what oh that's funny you speak russian
00:48:01.360
i'm assuming uh yes i do of course okay very cool very cool and but so you moved in 2009 so
00:48:08.960
you were what like i was 11 turning 12 and you moved with your family um i moved with my mom and my
00:48:16.240
dad no i'm sorry with my mom and my brother okay um because she fell in love and got married um but
00:48:22.880
then it ended up being an abusive relationship and uh it was a whole bunch of stuff wait so back
00:48:28.800
in russia your parents were never never married or they split up they were married but they did
00:48:33.600
split up um yeah they did get divorced and then your mother met an american and then yes because
00:48:39.520
my aunt lives here so she came to visit her and then she met an american guy an american guy they
00:48:45.200
fell in love they met they got married in vegas um was there a green card um afterwards yes
00:48:52.720
and then she brought us over and then there was a whole lots of stuff all right so dating the uh
00:49:00.160
the six to ten people so like when you say poly polyamory dating six to ten people so like
00:49:06.400
are you like hooking up with all of them kind of at like you know one on monday tuesday wednesday
00:49:12.400
thursday like that kind of thing um kind of it's kind of whenever our schedules combine and kind of
00:49:19.680
our schedules worked on the majority of people i saw maybe once twice a week um and then a couple
00:49:25.040
of them were online relationships so you know it was a little easier did it ever get overwhelming
00:49:30.240
like trying to talk to so many people ten people um at needs and remember a lot of time
00:49:37.280
at that at that time no because i just wanted to experience as much as i have i've just come out of
00:49:44.080
um period of two years celibacy so oh you're celibate for two years i was celibate for two years prior to
00:49:50.160
that why why um multiple reasons but it's really to work on myself and just kind of not be a terrible
00:49:59.520
person to other people and like learn how to be wait i have a question for you so during this celibacy
00:50:06.640
thing like would you say within three months so you were at the tail end of your celibacy uh three
00:50:15.440
months dating for or there was a the three month tail end of your celibacy were there any guys who
00:50:21.760
are romantically and or sexually interested in you um not really because i didn't really talk to many
00:50:27.680
people however i read a lot of spicy books and um that's kind of what got me back into the whole like
00:50:36.320
trying to see if it would even work romance novels with the guy on the horse with the long hair
00:50:44.160
yeah okay i was just curious like if at the tail end of your celibacy you were like no no no
00:50:51.360
i'm celibate and then your celibacy ends and then you're just like dating like six dudes like well
00:50:59.520
it started with one um and then two and then three and then four and then five you know so
00:51:07.680
would you tell the guys that you were seeing other guys yes i was always honest and i was always um
00:51:12.720
asking uh for the std panels prior to every single prior to every single first date even if i wasn't
00:51:20.960
planning on doing anything now a quick uh quick question for you uh were your parents russian orthodox
00:51:27.200
yes however you know it wasn't strictly followed sure yeah yeah sure so were you baptized into the
00:51:38.400
church then i was baptized in the church however starting seven years old when we baptized my brother
00:51:44.720
i started getting terrible headaches whenever i entered into church so i haven't been in ever since
00:51:50.320
maybe the incense most likely but also the pressure you know like being and behaving a certain way so
00:51:59.200
um what are your parents what do your parents think about this about this lifestyle and all of this
00:52:04.720
um well my mom doesn't really know much about my life we're not too close so she knows about the one
00:52:12.480
i'm dating so all the long-term relationships she knows about but you know everything in between is
00:52:19.280
is my own personal stuff well because if they're um the russian orthodox and i take it they would
00:52:26.880
frown on polyamory and on the perhaps same-sex relationship stuff that kind of thing right
00:52:34.640
well i was always different so my mom kind of you know we always were not friendly with each other
00:52:42.240
growing up so it's like she always kind of expected me to do whatever and you know i went to an art
00:52:47.040
school so like i i feel like she would have had possibly some kind of at least the thought that
00:52:55.920
that might be a chance okay so you're not very close with them then with with uh mom or dad so my
00:53:02.000
dad has passed away um but um not too close with my mom she recently moved to arizona and then she's
00:53:10.960
going to be traveling the world with her fiance um so there's not much chance to really chat and then
00:53:20.400
with uh with dad when did he pass he passed um oh my god um i think it was 2017 and i haven't seen him
00:53:31.440
since like about two weeks before i left and i haven't spoken to him or seen him he's never asked about me
00:53:39.200
or you mean when you were seven you haven't spoken to him since you're since you left when you were
00:53:44.080
seven um since i left since i was 10. oh 10 okay yeah sorry gotcha all right yeah i was just curious
00:53:51.120
i just wanted to kind of blush the rest of that out so appreciate you answering my questions and on
00:53:55.760
on that note you uh you said that monogamy you i think you have an issue with monogamy being the
00:54:03.760
standard and you think that monogamy is harmful that's what you said your monogamy is harmful
00:54:09.120
why is that so i don't necessarily think monogamy is harmful it's more it's a harmful as a social norm
00:54:15.280
to begin with like um i don't think that it's right to just like especially in the talking stage or like
00:54:23.120
the beginning dating stage to just focus on one person and expect to be with just one person and on top
00:54:30.560
of that there has to be specific levels of commitment in order to get to that to that monogamous
00:54:39.760
relationship and to create the boundaries and the rules and set what you want so i think monogamy
00:54:46.880
should not be the beginning norm i think it should be what everyone comes to a conclusion long term you
00:54:54.800
do want that or do you want to do you think that like five ten years how old are you i'm 26 i think
00:54:59.840
she just wants to go with the flow if it naturally occurred and it felt right but the thing is when
00:55:04.560
you agree to monogamy it can very easily get toxic exactly and the guys tend to start controlling
00:55:12.320
let's just be honest you choose the wrong man well that could be the case you choose a man that says
00:55:17.120
to you i want to get married i want to have children i want it to be a but they lock it down
00:55:22.080
and then they have no but not all men are like your ex well most of them because i've also dealt
00:55:27.760
with bad men but they're not all like that but so you're open to it though you're open to the to
00:55:31.680
to being committed to one person so i am committed to one person so so so it's literally go with the
00:55:37.360
flow of what i feel like um so it's like at the moment i physically do not want anyone else i have no
00:55:44.240
interest in anyone else so like so we've talked about it you know and we both were like hey we're not
00:55:50.080
really interested in other people um we love each other's company you know if a situation comes up
00:55:56.480
where we meet somebody together so it's kind of just feeling based emotionally exactly so you said
00:56:04.000
that it's like a toxic social structure like to be monogamous but what from the get from the get-go
00:56:10.160
oh yeah so so specifically from the get-go i think monogamy should be established and agreed
00:56:16.240
upon from both parties not just be kind of the norm so the thing is anytime you institutionalize
00:56:22.320
something it very quickly i gotta say real quick i don't mean to cut you guys off but um ready you
00:56:28.320
gotta go get an energy drink you gotta go slam like pound an energy drink seem like you pass it out on
00:56:34.480
that in yeah pound i go yeah pound an energy drink you'll feel a lot better um can i i know i've taken
00:56:43.200
those brutal flights myself out there and uh that always helps me just uh but so i i just want to ask
00:56:50.240
you like okay so i know you said um like even the relationship you're with right now it's you said you
00:56:57.120
guys enjoy your guys's company you guys are committed to each other but you know if you guys want to date
00:57:02.880
someone else or things change so where is the actual real commitment like in your and how do you
00:57:08.960
see that if there's no real commitment well there is commitment because we decide on it and we have
00:57:15.840
decided that if we meet somebody it would be okay that's it would be somebody you know like that we
00:57:21.760
both like and we both oh like to bring into the to bring into the relationship oh not to leave each
00:57:26.960
other for um no but but however if we do meet other people somehow and would want to be with
00:57:33.360
other people like it is what it is what it comes down to is basically it's a different structure where
00:57:39.360
we are ultimately only committed 100 to ourselves and our own personal selfish no it's actually not
00:57:46.720
because that's the only way that you can truly show up and fully full out love somebody with your
00:57:53.040
whole soul and receive their full out unconditional love from their soul when you start adding but it's
00:57:59.280
not unconditional it's conditional it's conditional based on at any point if this relationship no longer
00:58:06.880
serves your personal growth and your highest good or my personal growth and my highest good
00:58:11.840
as consenting adults we will peacefully do what we got to do then why make a commitment in the first place
00:58:17.680
you don't i mean i personally i don't the only commitment i make is to my own personal growth
00:58:23.440
health and development and to being completely honest and transparent so there's no shadiness we
00:58:28.000
talk about everything and transparent either then yeah it's really just and when you reach that level you
00:58:33.600
don't need to have these monogamous things because that's not what it's about it's about connection
00:58:40.080
it's about love it's about you feel that i get what it is that you're saying the whole the whole self
00:58:45.040
love and that you have to show up for yourself a hundred percent i get that but then that also just
00:58:50.880
takes away with people being able to actually out of the relationship faster you don't fight for
00:58:56.320
anything like no that's actually not true because when you actually find those aligned people who are
00:59:01.360
worth fighting for that's how you weed it out i love your fucking soul so much that i'm willing to be
00:59:08.720
curious why did you do that thing i'm just curious and we have no jealousy right because
00:59:14.880
we have no reason to be jealous we are awesome human beings and if this guy wants to go fine
00:59:20.880
another cool awesome person will come in if we want to leave because he's not stepping it up or he's
00:59:26.240
not doing the right thing we're free to go so do you believe but isn't um isn't jealousy actually kind
00:59:32.000
of healthy so doesn't that show that you hang on hang on doesn't that show that you actually value a
00:59:38.640
person um and value them as a human being to the point that you don't want to share them
00:59:44.080
or that uh you know you don't want any other people to intrude you want all to yourself lol paladins
00:59:49.920
donated 200 controlling man noun when a woman wants to have relations with another man and the boyfriend
00:59:58.400
or husband says no number two is the definition of toxic femininity let the rest of the panel speak
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well they're i mean they're all engaging honestly and i don't i don't see a problem with people
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engaging but um but to this to my question isn't that part like if you love somebody all right now
01:00:19.200
i know that you can take anything to an extreme you can even take uh how much you love a person to an
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extreme smother them this type of thing but wouldn't you expect to see something you value for you to be a
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little bit jealous of if uh if somebody else was kind of moving in or uh you felt they were spending
01:00:35.200
time away from you things like that isn't a bit of jealousy good and for you to say well i just don't
01:00:40.160
have any isn't that really just telling us that you don't value anybody no i would say that the jealousy
01:00:45.360
is a tool it's a tool it's it's just an emotional tool it's a human emotion it's a human emotion but it's
01:00:51.680
nothing to get stuck on it's it's it should be a passion sparker like you know what i'm getting kind of
01:00:58.640
jealous that he's really talking to that girl a lot at work instead of me trumping and getting
01:01:06.320
all dramatic whatever what do i do but step up my fucking game well then i'll dress a little cuter
01:01:12.240
yeah but isn't that that's just shit testing though it's fun it's honestly very fun isn't
01:01:18.320
the old adage of play stupid games when stupid prizes it's not stupid though it's not stupid it's
01:01:24.400
actually that's the way you have a passionate sex life for the whole relationship guys guys one at
01:01:29.200
a time let him finish and then you can go if you're in a position where you value somebody
01:01:34.640
uh of course you're you could easily experiences feelings of jealousy that does not only not make
01:01:40.320
you a bad person but probably a good thing it's probably healthy it shows that you love and adore
01:01:46.400
this person and you value them and this type of thing or it shows that you're not comfortable with
01:01:51.040
yourself just hang on i'm almost done and i'll let you speak i promise isn't it good in many ways
01:01:58.400
that people show that they they have a bit of jealousy because that's the value of they're showing
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i value this thing and you're like saying i have none of that wouldn't that tell me that you just
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don't value anybody or anything i would say that the jealousy is actually the root of it is your own
01:02:15.840
insecurity see i don't have jealousy because i know i am a unique one-of-a-kind energy if a man
01:02:24.080
wants to have experience a different flavor that's fine why would i be jealous of that he'll be back
01:02:29.680
when he wants this flavor no different than how it's a tool wait wait andrew andrew letter finish go
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ahead yeah i i just look at jealousy as a tool now what i prefer more is true admiration and respect when i
01:02:45.200
truly admire a man and respect him i might have that little twinge of what we could call jealousy
01:02:51.920
but what it is is he's holding me accountable to rise up my level for example there's this guy who
01:02:58.480
is my guy we all have the one that got away the childhood love whatever you want to say right he's
01:03:04.320
just my guy we've never actually been together but you know what i love about him is that he had this
01:03:12.160
kinky side i didn't have that coming from the christian world i was like a good girl so because
01:03:18.720
of my love of this man my reverence of him my respect of him i allowed that to rise my game so i went out
01:03:28.000
and learned how to so just how he wanted to sexual yeah but this is um there's a bunch of
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but no but then it became fun for me and now i have an extra skill to bring other men for a second
01:03:40.000
hang on just let me say what i'm what i need to say here so it seems like there's a bit of pedantry
01:03:44.880
here where you say things like well i'm a unique special energy it's like well okay but everybody's a
01:03:50.480
unique it's true that is true which is why i don't think that stop just stop let me finish holy
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shit before you cut in um when you say things like that it sounds like a bunch of non-sequiturs
01:04:02.240
like a bunch of meaningless spiritual esoteric tripe that that means nothing see the thing is i don't
01:04:07.680
get jealous because i'm a unique special energy well yeah but that guy over there is a unique special
01:04:12.640
energy and he does get jealous right the thing is is that none of that really actually answers to my
01:04:18.080
question of value so if you value something the whole purpose of valuing that thing is i i i love
01:04:26.080
it or i desire it or i want i have it has value to me that's where jealousy inserts itself can
01:04:32.960
jealousy become uh toxic because people become irate over it sure but does that usually happen i
01:04:39.600
don't think so i think it's pretty common that people become jealous uh even over kind of small
01:04:44.720
things and even laugh it off and even recognize ah you know maybe that's a bad feeling to have uh you
01:04:50.800
know under this circumstance or that circumstance but what you're talking about really doesn't actually
01:04:54.960
answer my question of do you value anybody and if you do how do you demonstrate that without
01:05:01.520
wanting to be a bit possessive or things like this i just don't resonate with the word jealousy
01:05:07.840
or possession or anything along those lines just because it's common and that's what people typically
01:05:14.560
present doesn't mean it's healthy that's not love like i love my children so i want the absolute
01:05:22.400
best for them a lot of times they choose things that is not my favorite or they go spend time
01:05:27.680
with other people when i would prefer to spend time with them but i love them so much i value
01:05:33.680
them as an individual okay if you believe that that's your best life that that's your best choice
01:05:38.560
today that that's your best friend and you hate me today okay i i love you so much i have the space to
01:05:46.320
allow you to be yourself and i bring that same energy into my relationships dynamics i don't it's
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okay to have jealousy but what i tell men is that's your issue you go process the jealousy just like i do
01:06:00.560
i feel the jealousy sometimes and guess what i do i go no i'm saying everybody has these human emotions
01:06:08.960
it's what you do with it so i might feel a twins of jealousy i go and do my inner work you just got
01:06:15.600
done saying that jealousy does not resonate with your frequency it doesn't resonate with me to carry
01:06:21.360
it into somebody else's presence but i just know how to deal with it it's like but everybody then
01:06:26.320
that's the story of every human being out there almost every human being out there gets jealous
01:06:30.560
and most of them know how to deal with it by the time they're adults because they have to
01:06:34.000
right okay so maybe i don't know what makes you special with this vibration and we can agree on
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that i was simply saying as the emotions of jealousy or possession kick in i don't bring that into my
01:06:45.360
relationships i go have a night to myself and i ask myself what would make me feel insecure why do i
01:06:52.000
feel insecure in comparison to for example this other woman and then i think to myself well you know what
01:06:58.240
she's in better shape than me that's yeah i really like that and so you know what i do instead of
01:07:02.800
dumping that onto my relationship i go get in better shape hold on right you know so i'm moving
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so final thing andrew final thing final thing go ahead yeah so you're actually coping with jealousy
01:07:12.960
what you're saying is i have ways in which i hang on i use it as an invitation with jealousy and these
01:07:19.280
are all the ways i cope with jealousy i teach people how to cope it's not a coping it's not a coping it
01:07:25.280
is a you're using jealousy as the tool that is of the invitation it's a tool to look inward and
01:07:32.560
say what is this triggering what is this triggering yeah but you're jealous of the attention that
01:07:37.680
he's showing to her so you're like okay let me look like that's not true yeah let me look like
01:07:41.520
her that's cope it's literally if you looked up coping the definition that
01:07:45.280
all right well we can agree to disagree we can agree to disagree it's just a human
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thing it's what you do with it is all i'm saying but if anything if you show the jealousy of your
01:07:55.200
relationship it'll it could actually help your relationship i wouldn't say it's controlling it i
01:07:59.120
say you're processing it in a healthy way okay cool so what's the panel's thoughts on the anunnaki
01:08:05.440
does anybody have any idea what that is no what is that i do i don't know what the anunnaki are
01:08:10.640
i don't know what it is i can tell you quickly anunnaki supposedly are a group of alien beings who
01:08:18.080
came down as star seeds and seeded the planet earth for a life uh you utilizing a hybrid technology
01:08:26.880
in order to create uh like a lizard hybrid people in the beginning of our that's what the anunnaki
01:08:32.480
and they have like cool watch looking things yeah we're not going to linger on the anunnaki thing
01:08:37.920
thank you thank you don't worry about it a couple questions for for you here you mentioned low
01:08:43.680
vibrations you mentioned frequencies um you know i don't know if you you're familiar with the the
01:08:49.360
one of the greatest minds uh of our generation of our time uh terence howard are you familiar with
01:08:54.560
them at all no but explain the yes process so so yeah terence howard one of the greatest minds of our
01:09:00.240
time um he asserts that frequencies they have um intrinsic power that resonates throughout history
01:09:07.840
and it influences our emotional physiological and cognitive states do you do you yeah so it would be
01:09:13.440
what the better word would be to use epigenetics so epigenetics is the transfer of vibrational
01:09:18.640
data through the generations now i so that is not what epigenetics means hold on hold on
01:09:25.920
transfer vibrational data hold on hold on actually does i have degrees in this stuff okay you have you
01:09:32.720
have degrees in from you have degrees in epigenetics huh i have a degree in psychology and social
01:09:38.480
behavior and i have a degree in counseling and i also have a life coach certification
01:09:43.920
from an institute that specializes in quantum physics and vibrational resonance okay so in
01:09:50.640
your psychology degree did they explain to you that epigenetics is the study of vibrational frequency
01:09:56.800
passed down through the generator i just want this on record so for example they have studied now in
01:10:02.800
rats right in pregnant rats they do these tests where the pregnant rat they can tell now because they use
01:10:11.200
water and the vibration of water and all this stuff and the mom but vibrational data meaning basically the
01:10:17.520
traumas and the emotional information from the mother gets transferred to that baby that she's pregnant
01:10:24.640
with and that goes back seven generations that is not vibrational data it actually is being transferred
01:10:31.280
uh no in biology epigenetics is study of heritable traits or a stable change of cell function that
01:10:38.640
happened without changes to the dna sequence these are not studies of the vibrational intergenerational
01:10:46.080
frequencies of parents and and sons daughters and heritability of vibrations that's absurd that's
01:10:52.720
esotericism tossed in to epigenetics which is a real legitimate scientific study it's not about
01:10:59.600
esoteric vibrations your school of science and my school of science didn't date apparently so that's
01:11:05.760
fine your school of science studies uh vibrational frequencies passed down her heritable frequencies
01:11:14.560
so my my greatest mentor and who taught me about quantum physics and vibrational information
01:11:20.160
is mary morrissey you can look her up she um she runs the brave thinking institute and she's a master
01:11:27.200
she's a master at creating anything you want it's a science it's called quantum physics okay because
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we're all vibrational beings and we are passing on vibrational information all right so so i've got a
01:11:41.040
couple like i i want to run some like this is from terence howard i just want to run like this by you and
01:11:46.400
see if you kind of concur so he says with the science that pythagoras was searching for like he's made
01:11:53.440
discoveries in his own personal life with the science that pythagoras was searching for he was
01:11:58.000
able able to open up the flower of life properly and find the real wave conjugations that we've been
01:12:04.320
looking for for 10 000 years why would i continue walking on water for tips when i got an entire okay
01:12:11.520
that's something else hold on let me find the other quote one second here he says that uh one sec i'm
01:12:17.280
getting it he all so he says all the energy in the universe is expressed in motion all motion is
01:12:26.400
expressed in waves all waves are curves so where does the straight lines come from to make the
01:12:31.120
platonic solids there are no straight lines so when i took the flower of life and opened it properly
01:12:36.880
i found all new wave conjugations that expose the in-between spaces it's the thing that holds us all
01:12:41.840
together yep so so straight lines or solid matter is an optical illusion it's not really what's going
01:12:49.520
on scientifically so if you hold it under the right microscope you see there's no straight lines there
01:12:55.280
is vibration it's everything is moving and it's waves it's sound waves it's all of this and that is
01:13:01.280
what our body is actually reading the data coming in now he i would know wait no hold on hold on hold on
01:13:08.560
okay so he also says that he's he's able to prove that gravity is only an effect and not a force
01:13:17.120
do you tend to agree with that or gravity is only an effect and not a force i god that's such a
01:13:23.920
complicated way of saying that i'm trying to translate it into like common speak because that's the problem
01:13:29.840
a lot of stuff gets lost in translation to be honest with you because we all have
01:13:34.240
our own way of understanding things right so that's why i speak street thug i speak scientists
01:13:39.840
i speak life coach you know is by itself i know with no one around is it a force i would say okay okay
01:13:50.160
i will say that if you're with it gravity if there's nothing to drop
01:13:55.040
is useless it's only there to serve the matter that it is vibing with you could say that it's
01:14:07.760
around so i guess that is true it's not a force that's going to be penetrative it's just there if
01:14:13.440
it's necessary it's there to drop something okay but effects effects have causes that's true yeah
01:14:21.920
so what's the cause of the effect that's a good question um can you rephrase that like
01:14:27.760
what's i don't i how i don't i actually i don't even know how i could ask that better
01:14:34.880
okay so so you're saying where does the where does the law of gravity come from the effect where does the
01:14:39.520
law of gravity come from is that what you're i'm saying if it's an effect what is the cause of the
01:14:44.080
effect the cause of the effect is us is everything that would require the gravity to work thankful
01:14:53.840
so it might be a human body it might be an animal it might be a rock getting a human body the human
01:14:59.520
body um well that's the mystery let me ask you a question wait hang on wait that doesn't make any
01:15:04.880
sense gravity as a force okay you're you say it's an effect this is an effect okay but all effects
01:15:13.440
have causes what is the cause of this effect of gravity you say well human beings are the effect
01:15:19.840
of the the cause i would say that honestly even though i don't mean this to be like flippant but i think
01:15:28.080
that that's what we would call god we would call that the mystery there's certain things
01:15:32.720
it's a little above our pay grade of exactly how it came to be and exactly why it mathematically works
01:15:40.400
perfectly and exactly why it's there i mean it's like the mystery so you don't know right you just
01:15:45.280
you don't know what the cause is that's what you're actually saying is that just i'm saying that i can
01:15:49.600
say definitively the cause is what i would call god you can call it whatever you want you can call it
01:15:56.960
so the effects so the so the cause of gravity is or the effect of gravity is god god is causing
01:16:04.400
gravity to happen well i mean i hate to say god because we have like this particular image but
01:16:10.960
that's just the best word that we've kind of come up with you can call it the mystery again now when you
01:16:16.480
get into frequency it's interesting because um now don't take this the wrong way but from my perspective
01:16:23.120
what you're saying is a bunch of pseudoscientific nonsense uh when you're talking about frequency
01:16:28.240
it is true that solid objects do have a frequency for instance if you took a wine glass and you hit
01:16:34.160
the right pitch with your voice you could break the glass the reason that that glass breaks is because
01:16:39.840
it does have a frequency and the frequency of your voice if they intersects they they can dissolve
01:16:45.760
objects there is a precedent for this we've known about this for a long long long time what i don't
01:16:51.520
understand though is this idea that there's no such thing as something solid there's not see you were
01:16:56.640
already mistaken because you were calling the glass solid and you also said that it had a frequency so
01:17:02.560
if it has a frequency by nature it's not solid no it doesn't make any sense because a frequency
01:17:09.280
connotes that something is in movement if it's in movement it's by nature not solid okay i'm moving this
01:17:16.560
song i'm moving this on i'm moving it on final question on this two plus two equals four agree or
01:17:23.360
disagree i mean it depends on what the two is is it a pregnant mom is it two pregnant moms because
01:17:30.320
that's more so it's everything is not as simple i mean like math just like two pencils plus two pencils
01:17:38.800
that we're talking yeah like the number the number two plus the number two i would say for the most
01:17:45.760
part yes what do you mean for the most part like i said there's some there's some variations where
01:17:51.920
but the thing is even that is a flawed concept because it's actually that pencil is billions of
01:17:58.640
atoms that are vibrating so we've learned we've come to call it one pencil but it's actually however many
01:18:05.600
atoms vibrating on the same frequency to make this appearance this optical illusion that this is a
01:18:11.440
pencil and our human mind needs to label things and conceptualize it in solid form so we just call
01:18:18.400
it's not solid how does it break well technically it's not really broken i mean even that's enough
01:18:27.280
well you could say now it appears as two pieces it still was never solid two pieces that's why
01:18:35.600
right well no offense but i think if you're in a kindergarten class and well no offense that's not
01:18:44.320
an answer how is it not saying saying no offense but i don't have an answer to that i gave you the
01:18:49.840
answer and you didn't want to accept it so that's not my fault why does the glass break if it's not
01:18:55.600
solid it only appears to break that's it only just like a heart only appears to break it's still your
01:19:03.440
heart no that's way different when you go through a heartbreak it's honestly not saying it's not that
01:19:10.560
different you guys on a scientific microscopic level it's not that different you can't see the
01:19:15.040
heart broken because it's not really getting broken it's in a it's it's just like the pencil it's just a
01:19:21.360
saying that i broke the pencil it's just it's the same thing okay that's like you saying i'm not
01:19:26.480
really one human body because i'm made up of a million cells and that is true i've described
01:19:30.880
myself as more as a constellation i'm a constellation of atoms and energy and you're one person you're one
01:19:37.760
i mean i don't think of myself as one of anything but you can say that you can say that's your truth
01:19:43.120
but the reality is you are one it's actually no the reality is actually okay so i could just grab a
01:19:47.920
part of you and there's two of you you could grab a piece of my hair but that's your hair coming up
01:19:52.480
that's just a part of all my dna all my dna is in that one piece yeah but that's not that's not
01:19:58.080
that's not your body though that's not explaining exactly and guess what my body is not who i am oh
01:20:03.360
gosh yeah but that's so that's an ontological claim what is you then there isn't i'm not definable
01:20:10.240
i am you're not i thought you were valuable though and you're very unique you don't
01:20:14.880
i am just like god came jesus said i am you just don't i am i am you you both exist and both exist
01:20:23.600
don't exist at the same time we're very complex aren't we all right madison no not really
01:20:32.080
when we're dead aside from death rattled nothing is moving i've only expended maybe 80 years worth of
01:20:37.120
vibration when i was alive how do i pass on vibration when i dead when i did you have 10 seconds
01:20:43.120
to answer that if you want you're essentially when you're when this biological body dies your
01:20:48.000
energetic vibration is still there so we could call that the afterlife whatever you want to say you
01:20:52.800
decompose and your energy recycles back and go ahead madison this chick is confusing science with an
01:20:57.840
achievement you can unlock an assassin's creed unity well i gotta ask this one last question um does two
01:21:04.960
plus two equal four in your brain it definitely does and everyone's brain i'm asking you again
01:21:14.080
if it's two like what are we talking about two number two equal four one atom plus one atom equals
01:21:22.560
two yes okay okay so does two plus two so i just want to yes or no does it or yes or no equal four
01:21:29.760
say it again i just want to yes or no does two plus two equal four if we're talking on the atomic level
01:21:38.640
yes okay what level does it not equal for anything other than the atomic level so anything other than
01:21:47.440
the atomic level meaning i am i am a body made of billions of cells so that feels like my brain
01:21:56.640
say that say that again that felt like my brain it's too heady for this why are we even talking
01:22:06.720
about all this science guys who cares it just feels like nobody else no mine's melting right now
01:22:16.480
this is above most people's pay grade we don't need to talk about two plus two is you are definitely i
01:22:22.560
wrote books that breaks this all down into very basic day-to-day terms you can just read my books
01:22:28.560
go ahead madison you are definitely you'd find yourself as a thing but no no no no no stop stop
01:22:32.480
stop stop i'd usually say please go home and think about your actions but maybe stop thinking so much
01:22:39.680
that is true there's another one coming in go ahead madison this trick is confusing science we
01:22:43.600
already read that with an achievement you can allot in assassins per unit did we read this oh my bad
01:22:46.720
my bad nickelodeon thank you man appreciate it thank you guys appreciate it go ahead andrew with your
01:22:50.880
point i was just going to ask what the resonant frequency of your books are hang on people
01:22:57.120
the resonant sorry yeah wait what am i answering am i answering i'm asking like what frequency are
01:23:03.920
your books that truth the resonant frequency is truth plus love yeah well well what is it's
01:23:09.360
christ consciousness what is the numerical value of the frequency of truth we can look it up there really
01:23:15.040
is you can look up the resonant frequency of truth plus love which is christ consciousness
01:23:19.600
technically it has a nice consciousness it has it has a number you can look it up what's the number
01:23:24.960
i don't know it off the top of my head it's not really important to me what's important
01:23:28.320
where can i look up the christ consciousness number you can easily google it yourself
01:23:35.040
yeah but i'm asking where like where would i look that information up for christ
01:23:38.800
google google what is the vibrational frequency of authenticity that's what it is oh did you show the
01:23:54.480
all right uh so moving on going over here to emily right okay you just describe yourself as liberal kind of
01:24:03.040
um like i'm just not like um what do you call it the opposite of liberal like the conservative yeah
01:24:13.120
i'm just not conservative so you're moderate um i guess i'm just like because my grandparents i grew
01:24:20.080
up with them for like like five years i was in nebraska for five years before i was here and they're very
01:24:26.000
conservative and i just did not like the way like yeah that's what made me like not like conservative
01:24:32.880
that much and you also describe yourself as a feminist is that correct um i said yes in the chat
01:24:39.520
because i didn't really know i was like yeah but i don't think so but do you believe in the in moving
01:24:46.880
towards egalitarianism and getting rid of assuming assuming it exists a patriarchy
01:24:56.000
no so you're in favor of the patriarchy yeah that you that would mean so then you're not
01:25:02.960
that would mean that you're more conservative yeah you definitely have conservative beliefs then okay
01:25:07.920
all right you also dated i don't know if i want to go with these topics but uh you did have a crazy
01:25:13.840
ex i'm not going to bring the first one up but i don't even know if i want to bring the second one
01:25:18.160
up yeah because they're pretty crazy yeah okay all right well all right uh so not a feminist then
01:25:25.520
no all right so then what do you mean like you're in favor of patriarchy like in what way um
01:25:36.720
i don't know actually i really don't know okay she doesn't know i just don't know are you meaning
01:25:41.040
it like you you appreciate male leadership more from that like you appreciate in some ways yeah
01:25:46.240
in some ways do you think there's anyways okay i'm gonna move it on um just show of hands uh who
01:25:54.800
here considers themselves a feminist show of hands only one okay cool we can get to that a little bit
01:26:02.000
later uh moving on over to ashley here you said you're conservative slash traditional but you were
01:26:08.160
extremely liberal in your past is that correct yeah and so what made you switch up
01:26:12.800
um well yeah when i was going to college i was taking like a bunch of gender classes and it's
01:26:18.320
because i was going for sociology and so i really fell into like the whole feminist you were a sociology
01:26:22.560
major yeah okay yeah and i stepped away from that but what changed it really was just um going out in
01:26:28.880
the real world and just kind of seeing how things really worked and um i also became christian and so
01:26:36.160
i think naturally you just kind of see it's very black and white very different liberal is just very
01:26:44.080
and do you uh and was a man responsible for this uh move to christianity no no so i was born again in 2018
01:26:53.280
um well i was with someone that he introduced me to the bible um but not i guess which which
01:27:00.320
denomination are you um i guess you would say more like charismatic pentecostal wait what's is
01:27:07.280
i'm not familiar with so we believe in like the the holy spirit spiritual gifts um speaking in tongues
01:27:14.080
healing praying uh holy spirit do you speak in tongues or yes all right can we get a demo is that
01:27:21.680
possible or i mean what do you mean don't they do it in front of like televangelists um i would prefer
01:27:28.720
not to because there should be an interpreter yeah that's oh okay interpreter okay um well i mean
01:27:34.800
that that's not part of the pentecost tradition it doesn't have to be an interpreter go go ahead um
01:27:39.280
okay does it just come to you uh it's my prayer language i guess i could technically you're right
01:27:45.360
yeah i could technically you're doing it no no no i'm just answering to andrew like it's true
01:27:49.680
basically because we're not in a church setting i could do it um it's a prayer language so no detective
01:27:56.160
mike hunt donated two hundred dollars red shirt most a.m meetings start at 7 p.m you should
01:28:02.960
probably head to one think i got the time zone math right hashtag kentucky okay we have another one
01:28:09.680
one that's about to come in do you want to respond to mike hunt oh they got me he got me
01:28:25.600
whoa whoa whoa whoa donated two hundred dollars
01:28:28.480
to the oscillation which you anthropomorphize the second law of thermo
01:28:33.840
mercifully stop also someone john travolta red shirt with epinephrine andy what is the axe
01:28:41.760
jackson oh man that he's he's referencing the pulp the film pulp fiction john travolta takes a
01:28:49.680
fucking adrenaline that's the way what's it called uh you want to take an axe to me no it's okay i think he
01:28:57.520
had it right i think isn't it isn't it a an epinephrine shot maybe i'm wrong it's the it's an
01:29:02.080
adrenaline shot yeah that restarts your heart because he overdoses on drugs right what's the
01:29:06.320
what's that thing it's an epi pen it's like it's like an epi pen like an adrenaline shot no but what's
01:29:10.560
the name of the needle there's a specific name for the epi pen is it hyper hyperdural or hype no
01:29:15.440
there's no like i don't know what it is like a sedative no no what's the name for the actual
01:29:22.080
tool that's i'm just i'm the syringe syringe yeah he takes a syringe and just pounds it in
01:29:27.840
the chest into uma thurman's chest that's a great movie good well if i could be uma thurman then like
01:29:33.440
get it by all means get it girl kill bill over here okay get it girl all right uh i don't even know
01:29:38.960
where we were oh we were talking okay ashley right so okay uh and curious so you said you were
01:29:44.560
born again do you consider yourself like born again virgin or just yeah i mean so physically
01:29:51.120
yeah no i'm not a virgin um okay but i recommitted to waiting until marriage yes i see i know you
01:29:56.720
love this yeah good for you well i mean but you want you understand why um but it's silly the the kind
01:30:05.040
of um i'm a i'm a born again virgin that there's a certain connotation that specific women like to use
01:30:12.320
in order to essentially use that as a cope right like i mean you really realize that that i'm not
01:30:18.560
saying you are but i'm saying no no no but you said use it as a what cope oh okay no like i don't i
01:30:24.720
don't expect for people to really or men to look at me as like a true version or virgin like that's not
01:30:30.880
reality but spiritually born again yes like i recommitted so yeah i understand yeah i know you
01:30:38.640
understand but yeah and i'm curious i uh do you have uh like a ministry i do okay and oh no yeah
01:30:50.640
i'll andrew i'll let you come in on this in just a moment um and so with your your ministry are you
01:30:57.200
preaching to to both men and women um i mean i'm on youtube so i say i say sis a lot though i think
01:31:05.360
naturally i just geared towards women um but i get the whole women shouldn't be leaders and all that
01:31:12.560
i and and here's the thing naturally i don't when a woman is on stage like as a as a um like a pastor
01:31:19.760
i'm not against it i know there's two different schools of thought when it comes to that biblically
01:31:24.240
like i get that but i i believe that women still have a part in the church sure well andrew um you
01:31:31.440
know i'm not particularly religious but you know doing my my own research even as somebody who's not
01:31:36.800
religious my understanding of christianity is that uh among all denominations even protestant
01:31:44.240
non-denominational that is a heresy uh yes that's correct it's incorrect some some denominations have
01:31:51.520
no i think even protestant it's well but i'm saying like for example the united any church
01:31:57.920
that says united typically they have a more liberal view of things and so they have even saddleback church
01:32:04.560
is technically part of the southern baptist convention and they now have allowed um rick
01:32:09.360
warren stepped down and wait do you have a ministry too
01:32:12.240
don't they all clarify what you mean by that clarify what you mean by that well we were called
01:32:19.920
to be ministers yeah i mean the great commission i guess you could say that yes to heal and to cast
01:32:25.680
out demons and i do so yes i do consider my really curious though what why do you feel so like let
01:32:31.680
down isn't that the great commission we're all disciples right uh no no it's not so only men are
01:32:38.800
disciples no that's not what i said chill out and i'll explain it to you um when you get when you
01:32:44.960
get to the original apostles um who became bishops in christ church were any of them female
01:32:52.240
can i say something because i actually didn't study this i didn't hear you what the original
01:32:57.440
apostles who became bishops were any of them female no why not i'm not sure it's actually not
01:33:04.560
nor am i saying that i need to be a preacher or i need to be a pastor i'm just a witness i am
01:33:13.440
but what did what what did paul say what did paul say about women leading in the church
01:33:19.600
what did paul say he said about us being quiet is that he said no he said specifically
01:33:25.840
in multiple places uh that women were not allowed to have leadership positions in the church now when
01:33:31.920
you're talking about a woman's part in the church i don't disagree i think that women do have a very
01:33:36.080
important role in the church it's just not as clergy and yeah i'm not against that like i'm not here
01:33:41.920
wanting to be a pastor um i i hold bible study that's because there's and it's really it was really
01:33:49.440
supposed to be a prototype measure and i don't create the curriculum i go based off of a pastor's
01:33:55.040
curriculum a church curriculum that's handed and passed down to us and so it's not to me i'm
01:34:02.320
really just holding space with other as a disciple as a witness with other disciples that are looking
01:34:07.200
to get in the word of god to talk about god but i don't need to be on stage calling doing altar calls
01:34:13.760
at a church yeah so a priest is an embodiment of christ on earth and christ embodied as a male
01:34:19.280
you do have a warm sense that's why i mean that's it so so women women cannot be the embodiment
01:34:26.080
of christ that would be men only that is the we are part of that's not actually what the doctrine
01:34:30.960
was ever even about but just fyi because i studied all of this you did yeah so what was the what was
01:34:37.520
the first sign of the um when they when they discuss this tell me what it's called the whole principle
01:34:43.280
of women not speaking in church had nothing to do with the fact that women didn't embody fully
01:34:48.320
christ or god it was a protective measure because men like you are assholes and it's a protective
01:34:54.960
measure so that men would speak in public i'm just saying i mean you don't have to take it personally
01:34:59.760
yeah it is what it is just avoid ad hominem attacks okay so because we live in a patriarchal society and
01:35:06.320
the bible was written in a patriarchal society to protect women it's a protective measure men don't
01:35:12.880
listen to women it's much better if the woman goes to her own partner her own husband her
01:35:18.160
own brother who's the minister yeah and gives the message to him of what's on her heart and he
01:35:24.880
filters it through his man speak whatever you want to say and he goes and presents it before the men
01:35:30.880
that way he takes the flack on himself for it so she doesn't have to deal with that emotionally it's
01:35:36.800
a protective measure women are very sensitive emotionally we were not made to handle all these
01:35:42.800
criticisms coming at us that was supposed to be the setup it was never supposed to be we're not
01:35:49.360
equal to we're not worthy we don't have important things to say it wasn't supposed to be that way
01:35:54.400
the patriarchy got convoluted so so i'm going to try this again i'll just ask you the same
01:35:59.040
question maybe you can answer it did jesus christ embody as a man or a woman
01:36:02.960
jesus christ yeah he embodied as a man and came to tell us that all of us have the same
01:36:12.880
power as him and i'm embodying christ consciousness now as a woman how come how come he didn't embody
01:36:18.800
as a woman because he just answered that particular call and he happened to have a penis born to him
01:36:25.920
i have a vagina and i have the same call it just happened he just he could have been either he
01:36:31.120
just happened the god just happened i believe because of the nature there was no actual messaging
01:36:36.720
behind that there was very dangerous for women to live back then it was very dangerous for women to
01:36:42.240
live back then okay okay well hang on hang on wait i just want to i just want to make sure that we're
01:36:47.840
clear on this very quickly you think that christ embodied as a man just because it was fun it was
01:36:55.760
funsies for him no because it was the safest way for a guy who got crucified it was the safest way it
01:37:02.240
was because if he was a woman if he was a woman he wouldn't have made it past well answer two plus
01:37:07.360
two please shut the fuck up this is wild i've never heard any i mean this is um you don't even have
01:37:16.320
a grounding epistemology for this so what is your actual epistemology for church doctrine
01:37:21.680
who are you you don't even know what i you don't even know what i just said like i don't even what
01:37:28.400
you don't even know what i just said what is your epistemology do you know what do you know what jesus
01:37:34.480
came to promote okay let's stop i can't wait to hear what he came what i asked no i asked you what
01:37:41.200
do you believe jesus came here to promote to give us a church he said so himself christ said to give us
01:37:47.840
the church the body is the church the body the body i'm sorry what now the body the body what is
01:37:56.640
the church so therefore this is the church you have you're making a word concept fallacy because
01:38:03.680
you don't have any grounding epistemology so you don't really understand what you're talking about
01:38:08.160
you've heard the term uh that we make up the body of let me ask you something marriage a marriage for
01:38:13.920
instance is a representation of christ being the head of that church and uh you being the body of
01:38:20.800
the church that's why the man yes is in the leadership role inside of that union so if that's
01:38:26.720
the case then he must have embodied as a man for a reason so what is your grounding epistemology
01:38:33.760
a better question would you even know what do you even know what epistemology means can you just start
01:38:38.800
with that can you tell me what that means i will answer your questions when you answer this question
01:38:46.400
i'm not answering your question you don't know what it means you don't even know you have no
01:38:50.720
idea what it even i need to understand the frame of mind that you're in so i have to ask you some
01:38:56.720
clarifying questions do you agree yeah do you if you don't know what epistemology means it's not a
01:39:02.400
shot against you i'll tell you what it means you just need to be honest and say andrew i don't know what
01:39:07.040
it means and i'll just you just need to be honest and say i don't want to answer your question desir
01:39:11.360
because it might bring up something that i don't want to deal with sitting here answering them so
01:39:15.920
can i ask you a question yeah do you but first answer do you know what epistemology means no no
01:39:20.880
i'm not answering unless you're answering my question andrew just here ask your question
01:39:26.560
ask your question then andrew gets to ask his he'll answer yours you'll answer his go ahead yeah go
01:39:31.200
ahead okay do you have some sort of problem with seeing yourself as the current embodiment
01:39:41.840
of god yeah okay what's the problem well it depends on how you mean embodiment
01:39:49.440
that's why i'm asking so for example you said you're in a marriage yeah so the example is i would say that
01:39:54.640
a priest would be an embodiment as in so but you told me you said yourself let them finish
01:40:01.360
answer your question so i would see a priest as a representation or an embodiment i think in the
01:40:08.480
context you're using it that's what i would see as an embodied hang on let me finish the answer
01:40:14.960
that's what i would see as an embodiment now i just answered your question specifically
01:40:19.120
can you tell me what epistemology means we'll get right to it figure out your frame of mind
01:40:25.760
andrew so she can figure out how much to charge you in order to answer your
01:40:30.640
totally true totally now i just answered your question can you tell me what epistemology means
01:40:37.040
that's the simplest way to say it i mean you can give me your definition but this guy told me that
01:40:49.520
a husband and wife is supposed to be the representation of god and the church he said
01:40:55.760
he's a husband i asked him if he sees himself as the embodiment of god and he said no that doesn't
01:41:02.160
make any sense wait what is the epistles the epistles are the the apostles are you talking
01:41:07.840
about what what can you i you you use the word epistles what are the epistles he said what is
01:41:13.440
epistemology yeah no what are the epistles you said you use the word epistles right are you talking
01:41:18.240
about the apostles just say it in common language yeah andrew just say you don't know just so you don't
01:41:23.440
know it's just the study of how we know knowledge okay well that's what it means it has nothing to do
01:41:29.520
with epistles what are you talking about when i'm asking for your grounding epistemology i'm asking
01:41:35.120
where do you get your grounding foundation for the knowledge you know that's important when
01:41:39.680
we're talking about theology because hang on it's important when we're talking about
01:41:43.680
our grounding for theology that we would call that grounding epistemology
01:41:49.840
why are we getting into this anyways you had something go ahead go ahead ashley go ahead um
01:41:54.800
what i was going to say is i agree with you andrew like i believe that there are roles that are for
01:42:00.000
in like leadership that are for men but the way i look at my ministry or what i do is like the woman
01:42:07.440
at the well when she met jesus and jesus called her out and basically told her her past and she met she
01:42:14.000
had an encounter with jesus and then it says in the in the bible that she went out and started telling
01:42:19.360
the world like what happened and she started talking about jesus and that's the same framework i'm in
01:42:25.600
and another like let's take away the podcast that i do which is just sitting down talking to people
01:42:30.800
about their testimony with god i have a ministry offline where it's just going to go meet the needs
01:42:37.280
of seniors and then showing them the love of god i mean to me why would that only be yeah i think if
01:42:43.040
you're talking about maybe things like um like i do bible study with uh with other girls or uh you
01:42:50.240
know i do kind of uh outreach or something yeah outreaches and stuff i think that that might be
01:42:54.800
different than having a position of church authority and that's what we're talking about we're talking
01:42:59.600
about women in leadership roles right so and i and when we're talking hang on hang on and when we're
01:43:05.440
talking about ministry i think it depends because i think that if you have a ministry it depends on the
01:43:11.120
context are you in a church leadership role because you've created your own church that's where we
01:43:16.880
start to kind of dive into are you clergy or not right right yeah no so i'm i'm submitted under a
01:43:22.800
church and any of the bible study content that i get is from the church that are from males i do have
01:43:29.040
to move things on uh you also wanted to talk about uh so you're i sex out of marriage so i assume
01:43:36.720
you're waiting until marriage is that correct yes i recommitted to waiting for marriage okay
01:43:42.160
and recommitment with a face base faith-based foundation feminism is a scam uh well i don't
01:43:50.000
know if there's much to go on in terms of the sex out of marriage stuff but it's my understanding that
01:43:56.160
prior to you uh being born again prior to you finding christ uh you were having sex out of marriage
01:44:02.800
is that correct yes okay all right and that's a new commit and the current guy you're dating are
01:44:07.360
you guys aligned on that yeah cool cool you do have a disagreement with the show you said i miss the
01:44:13.040
times where there would be other men on the podcast that would hold higher respectable masculine energy
01:44:20.960
uh do you care to elaborate on that yeah i mean actually andrew's not doing too bad today i actually
01:44:26.800
i feel like he's not having a tone where it's just so degrading and like talking everybody like
01:44:32.480
we're stupid but um like i feel like before you guys would have like michael knowles or just other
01:44:38.480
leaders that would just be able to give their input and it was very valuable and they would teach stuff
01:44:44.080
and it and again andrew you're doing great um nothing against you but i just miss when there was more
01:44:48.240
male figures because i think it adds to the conversation to where we're able to have more
01:44:53.600
perspective from instead of just yeah can i kind of give you my counter here if you don't mind so of course
01:44:58.960
i tend to match energy with people right so if um like you saw the gal over here she called me an
01:45:05.120
asshole right i hadn't said anything to her i didn't call her any names nothing like that we were
01:45:09.920
in the middle of having an exchange and arc we were in the middle of having an argument but the reason
01:45:14.720
she said that is because she didn't like my tone right there's a there's a lot of tone policing that
01:45:20.000
happens with women i don't like how you're saying a thing right upsets me how the thing's being said
01:45:25.120
not necessarily what's being said yeah and so i tend to match energy so when you and i are having
01:45:30.160
the conversation you're honestly we're having an intellectual exchange and we're happy okay hang
01:45:37.280
on a second let this go through no you're good it's under the throne um so so for having that exchange
01:45:43.040
i'm really just kind of interested in the world view and the data right so the way i think of it is
01:45:48.160
you're trying to give me the information you're trying to dump the information you've got x amount of
01:45:52.080
time on this podcast you're trying to get that information out of your mouth as fast as possible
01:45:56.000
and i'm trying to hit you with questions and the reason is is because i want to get more info right
01:46:00.640
as much as i can get so i have a good overview of the things you think before we can start the
01:46:06.640
exchange so sometimes what will happen is i'll cut a person off and say wait wait wait you got to back
01:46:11.760
up because i want to get to this wider idea so i understand your worldview better now people who are
01:46:17.200
experienced in debate and they're experienced in discourse understand that that's necessary or else
01:46:21.920
else we can't really have kind of that overview overarching discourse that you want but what
01:46:27.680
you've seen and even tonight right if if a woman becomes a bitch if she starts acting like a bitch
01:46:34.240
then um then i'll match that energy and treat them exactly how they're treating me back right that's what
01:46:39.680
i'll do so um the thing is though is that as long as you are are not doing that why would i do it
01:46:46.880
why would i do it to you yeah and so i think a lot of times that's what it seems like but but you miss
01:46:52.800
kind of this critical context of the build-up to it yeah well i was gonna say i mean i'm not
01:46:59.600
i'm not gonna get too comfortable i feel like the second half of the show once you get all the
01:47:02.720
information that's when you start coming at us maybe i'm wrong sometimes sometimes but the thing is
01:47:07.520
is um it like again it just misses kind of key context right yeah um i usually only match energy
01:47:14.320
but it's so fun it's so fun to do it that way okay i mean i agree i'm fine with that andrew likes
01:47:21.360
the blood sports debates uh okay so moving on to and remember think of it too like a sign of respect
01:47:27.440
right i don't think of you as less than me which is why i treat you exactly how i would treat a man
01:47:32.960
who was sitting exactly where you were i mean that i couldn't think of a better way to show respect than
01:47:39.360
that andrew does go hard on on the dudes on the dudes and that's the only reason you should have
01:47:47.760
seen what he did to wes watson he no i don't i honestly i have nothing against you i think it's fun
01:47:53.920
i think it's fun andrew it was not a personal thing it's just locker room talk it's like let's
01:47:58.720
just together shoot the shit debate is fun it's fun i don't give a shit i don't have to go home and
01:48:04.720
fuck you stop it get some help uh going to going to you uh and how do you pronounce your name it's
01:48:12.480
kishwan kishwan uh do you have you ever dated the white guy just curious i went on a date with my
01:48:19.200
first white guy like two months ago and is this the guy who you told me about in the pre-show notes the
01:48:25.040
the whole stuff like oh no okay that's somebody else no so there was a guy i dated back in 2020
01:48:32.400
um it was on our first on our first date um he's also into fitness so the first date was to go to
01:48:37.840
the gym so right when we got to the gym the moment we got there i noticed that this girl this girl
01:48:41.760
across the way she's very pretty and then he noticed her and he's like oh you thought you were the only
01:48:45.280
one huh i was like what are you talking about he's like look at her butt and i was like well you're
01:48:49.440
really checking out a girl right and that's not even done yet and then while we were working out i got
01:48:55.200
sweaty so he licked my stomach oh and then he was telling me about his penis size was it sexy like
01:49:01.760
i mean he was attractive so that's why i wasn't like oh my god but it was it was just a bad first
01:49:07.200
date yeah oh my god wait so he just kept his mouth shut yeah right like take a class take a
01:49:15.520
dating 101 and literally after him i didn't date for two years oh god oh my goodness yeah okay because
01:49:21.120
of his licking of your sweat that is so gross and you were also recently talking to a guy and you
01:49:26.240
found out he lives in your building with his oh yeah so there was a guy that i was uh talking to
01:49:32.720
through one of the dating apps and he told me he wanted something serious he wanted monogamy and he
01:49:37.200
didn't have any kids he wanted kids and then we had like a taco thing that happened on our complex
01:49:42.640
by the pool and i saw him in the pool with his kids with his girl right there oh my god that recently
01:49:47.200
happened to me this is why i recommend the way i do things to be honest wait what is what is the way
01:49:53.600
you do things just just how you shoot it straight with guys and you put them through these tests
01:49:59.280
of their character but i'm telling you they're playing harder games on us ladies we that's the
01:50:06.160
only way to be safe in this society to be honest you have to give them a dose of their own medicine
01:50:11.760
honestly i'm not gonna treat them the way you want to be that's why i would love to see it change
01:50:19.280
come on nick it's okay my kids i have three kids they hate me too so you had uh let's see
01:50:30.320
going back to you maybe i'll wait on the polygamy thing when when she's back you said your best friend
01:50:35.440
is a guy and we've been friends for 16 years and you think that uh oh you disagree that it's not
01:50:42.000
possible to be best friends with a straight guy yeah because me and my friend cory like we've been
01:50:46.240
friends later since we were 14. we've never once kissed we don't even hug each other we think it's
01:50:50.240
i don't want to say the word but we think it's like gross to even hug each other we hug each other
01:50:53.920
one time in our whole friendship and that was when we were on fear factor we moved on to the next
01:50:57.200
round we were excited oh you were on fear factor yeah okay that's cool uh wait and does he does he
01:51:02.640
have a girlfriend no he doesn't okay i don't know if you're i don't know if you're down to try this
01:51:06.800
out would you be willing to text him right now and be like hey listen i've been thinking about you we can
01:51:15.680
we can figure out the precise way to actually that's fine like but i think i've been i've
01:51:20.560
got feelings for you uh do you feel the same way what was the thing what was the way that we figured
01:51:26.880
this what was the best phrasing for this question so complicated we we just told a girl to text him
01:51:32.720
and be like oh like do you want to hang out and snuggle have you ever thought about being more
01:51:39.040
would you be down i see i see him as my brother he's my brother would you be down to text him i can
01:51:43.280
does he know you're on here though he does oh well maybe he's not but he's not watching
01:51:49.440
yeah test it out he might know though yeah if he knows that you're coming on i know it's the it's
01:51:53.840
the i will do it we're gonna do this test the blue iphone with my dog on the screen yep that one this
01:51:58.880
is a great idea but let me ask you so while nick is getting the phone and while we get this text in
01:52:03.760
out here i'll pass this down there uh so so what's the tech before you send it what's precisely the
01:52:12.000
message that we're having her sent out she has to make it sound like her what was it nick uh have
01:52:18.000
you ever thought about being more than just friends that's good i think that's good yeah
01:52:22.400
just keep it have you ever thought about being more than just friends i feel like if you guys
01:52:27.040
want to get a relationship going though or he gets a girlfriend things are going to change the dynamic
01:52:31.760
will change like so right now i may feel like oh it's him like it's possible to be friends but
01:52:36.640
because i had the same situation i had two guys that i grew up with all the way for like 16 years but then
01:52:41.600
now they're both married and it's naturally you just there's that separation there's that respect
01:52:46.640
that happens but up until they were for real dating like yeah we were super close and it was like oh
01:52:51.520
we're gonna be friends forever but that just doesn't really happen in like a marriage i i personally
01:52:56.000
believe yeah it's just been 16 years and you would think within those 16 years something would happen
01:53:00.560
some fondling something but i feel like you guys aren't in a committed relationship we're best
01:53:05.760
friends i talked to oh so yeah but you're not in a marriage or she's are you in a committed you're
01:53:10.000
not in a committed in relationship with anyone no but i've been in two relationships and he was
01:53:15.040
there for me when those didn't work out like it was never anything like that no he's attracted to
01:53:19.840
white girls no he likes white girls and asians i'm neither so hey wait yeah i know this is
01:53:25.760
i'm black i know okay but see i can't i can't get i understand you because i have a best had a best
01:53:33.760
friend who we were really close for eight years he got a girlfriend his girlfriend wasn't as
01:53:37.840
but look i'm not the type of friend who who i'm gonna insert myself in his relationship like i'm
01:53:42.560
the type of friend like i already know like hey if i'm the girlfriend i wouldn't like my boyfriend is
01:53:46.480
hanging out with her so i would never put my friend in that so we actually distance ourselves he
01:53:50.640
knows he can text me for anything but as of now i know that she's his best friend like i would never
01:53:55.280
be like oh well i'm still his best friend because no you know that at the end of the day you're with
01:53:58.720
someone that's your so i got a question though let's say you meet the top g you meet a top g oh jesus
01:54:05.520
a top g andrew yeah sure a a a top g you meet the top g you're like this is the one this is the guy
01:54:14.640
i want to marry i want to have kids i'm dropping everyone are you talking about you you i'm not even
01:54:19.680
talking to you talking to me i'm talking to her so you do have this male best friend you guys have
01:54:24.720
been friends for 16 years if the right man steps to you let's see who's your do you have a celebrity
01:54:32.000
crush michael b jordan no jordan i don't know uh who's like a i used okay i'll just say the rock
01:54:39.520
the rock okay okay the rock steps to you i don't like his mentality but yeah the rock wait you don't
01:54:44.320
like the rocks mentality yeah wait what is that if he gets his mouth what about uh bumsfeld wait
01:54:50.000
what's his name the bodybuilder who's that what's his name bums bumsfeld no bumstead chris bumstead
01:54:59.200
you know them you don't know the bodybuilder okay someone you just really are down for so the rock
01:55:05.360
yeah just because of physically he he looks like that's my type the rock is your have you seen his
01:55:10.560
pictures like back in the day with his turtleneck and his tucked in shirt oh yeah yes oh that's funny
01:55:18.160
that's funny uh wait so okay your your celebrity crush steps to you and you've been dating he just
01:55:26.640
wants you to not be friends with this guy anymore do you do the friend breakup or do you yeah cory's not
01:55:33.520
going anywhere so you're your dream guy you're a dream guy he's perfect in every way except that
01:55:41.520
he doesn't want you to be have a male best friend that wouldn't make any sense because he could talk
01:55:46.640
to him he could facetime him he could be he's gonna be he's gonna know who cory is when i've been in
01:55:51.520
relationships whenever i had arguments with my man cory had nothing to do with that i didn't go
01:55:55.360
bitch to cory about it he didn't come to me and say oh you should break up with him he never he's never
01:55:59.360
interfered in the relationship but that but he's not like in this scenario it's not what it's not
01:56:04.560
what your male friend is doing let's assume your male friend is everything's above board there's
01:56:10.080
absolutely no uh at least on your part there's no concerns there there's he he's not acted in a way
01:56:16.880
that would give uh your potential mate any concern whatsoever but it still is his desire for you to not
01:56:25.520
have this male friend do you pick the male friend like ever in my life like ever again
01:56:32.320
yeah sure including your male friend of 16 years that you do have yeah that's the only one um yeah
01:56:42.640
if i'm being honest i'm not gonna lie i i'm not giving up that friendship
01:56:46.720
because he knows things about me that like he's like we've experienced a lot together nothing sexual
01:56:53.040
we were never close like that we don't sleep in the same bed nothing like that it's never been
01:56:56.720
like that it's literally just been a bro relationship i'm 20 i'm 30. we've been against
01:57:00.880
not together we've been friends since we were 14. i think that's that relationship is worth keeping
01:57:06.320
yeah it's called a ride or die don't ever get rid of a friend like that because he's a really good
01:57:10.400
friend like it could you see him in a different light ew no ew no no and especially because you guys
01:57:17.920
have that what is there to be jealous about no yeah he has a penis no he's not my type i'm not
01:57:23.120
his type it would just never happen i think it would more just naturally fizzle out if you really
01:57:27.920
are all in with your husband yeah he will become your best friend there's only so much time and energy
01:57:33.920
that you have anyways it's like you're gonna have kids you're gonna have a home it's like naturally
01:57:39.120
these are just gonna my attention is gonna go to them not to cory that sounds dumb yeah yeah like if
01:57:43.920
my man had a girl that was a friend to him and they've never done anything sexual i would not
01:57:48.320
care right what if the guy what if the guy that you're interested in your dream guy yeah he does
01:57:54.080
care and he's not listening to your justifications or your rationale or your reason reasoning for him
01:58:00.640
it's just an outright deal breaker your dream guy steps to you everything that you want in looks
01:58:06.560
personality his success his income whatever let's see let's here let's go to the extreme he's a
01:58:12.560
billionaire massive peen oh my god that's a man that's a man yeah fine okay uh bodybuilder whatever
01:58:20.400
i can never believe a rich guy rich people have too many damn problems what if he doesn't have
01:58:24.160
problems he's just what if he's like he's my dream guy he's not gonna tell me you need to drop that
01:58:31.840
friend he's your okay but hold on he's your dream guy in every single way yeah but one yeah then he's
01:58:37.440
not but no but right so for this scenario though just shouldn't if i'm if you do you guys want me
01:58:44.880
to lie and say yeah i drop him i wouldn't right no we're just trying to see that's her i'm trying to
01:58:51.120
think of a scenario and that's the problem of society is thinking that we need to settle for
01:58:55.120
stupid like that instead of stepping it up and say that's just not my guy that's not actually my dream
01:59:00.640
guy like my dream guy will come in and he will be totally fine but if you literally met cory you
01:59:05.920
would and you see our dynamic you would see that it's literally doesn't matter let's face time him
01:59:10.240
let's ask him uh did you want to check to see if he's responded oh you texted him oh yeah she
01:59:15.520
texted him oh he answered what did he say he said god no
01:59:18.960
no fuck off lesbian weird ass why would you even ask i feel like he's watching and he's like let me
01:59:26.160
make sure i don't look like a sim it's no different than if he was your brother biologically what are
01:59:30.880
you just gonna drop your brother it doesn't make any sense maybe he's watching the show i know
01:59:35.280
that's how we talk to each other i call him a bitch all the time you know men don't like being
01:59:38.560
called bitch is he gay maybe they are they are brother and sister by water whatever you want to say
01:59:43.600
i would not accept my mom calls him her white son like it's just not it's a white guy he's not a big
01:59:48.640
buff black dude with dread sexy it's not like that is he cute he's a skinny white boy would that make
01:59:54.320
a difference nick is if the guy was if you didn't feel any competitive like you know you can fuck her
02:00:00.240
better you know you look better you know you make better money you know she likes you better would you
02:00:04.320
still feel that same like hell no you can't hang out with that little twerpy guy that you're not even
02:00:08.960
into doesn't matter if he's you know what if it was but what if they were adopted brother and
02:00:13.280
sister doesn't matter if you okay well how far do we extend this right so okay well my i you should
02:00:19.600
trust your girl that you should let her go to a singles club and all clubs are singles clubs and
02:00:26.080
let her get drunk and let her dance let her you own her parent it happened to me in college
02:00:33.600
if i'm being honest with you i don't go out to clubs anyways like you're gonna get to know the
02:00:37.200
woman that i am i don't go to clubs i'm not talking about i'm speaking in generalities here
02:00:41.280
so and let but how far do you take how far do you take your how far do you take that
02:00:50.480
there's this is i'm a grown-ass woman nobody owns me i don't get permission they either want to be with
02:00:57.360
me and they're down for it or they're not that's not my fucking problem okay so if i'm gonna so hold
02:01:03.040
on just to be clear you're a grown-ass woman yeah and you're in a monogamous relationship
02:01:07.120
and at some point in the relationship you determine hmm i want to go fuck somebody else
02:01:11.680
and your boyfriend says no i'm not letting you do that it wouldn't it wouldn't go that way i would
02:01:18.000
bring it to my partner and i would say this is a desire that i have oh well that's i'm having
02:01:23.280
this i'm having this i'm having this fantasy just like he could come to me and say there's this girl
02:01:29.200
at the gym that's super hot what do you think i think confessing temptation it could be healthy
02:01:34.480
but that's why you have other people to i understand but let me just interject sometimes
02:01:38.640
it's just a matter of needing to have the safety to be honest with the person and say yeah i'm having
02:01:44.720
this desire let's talk it through why am i having this is there a need that's not getting met that's
02:01:50.080
a separate conversation but at the end of the day if i truly wanted to go and sleep with somebody else
02:01:56.000
this or that it's never a permission thing it's okay but what i'm trying to yeah you you have the
02:02:02.240
agency to go out and do whatever you want but hold on let me finish what i'm trying to articulate
02:02:08.240
here is is that the relationship is over okay it's not going to be a controlling thing but i'm letting
02:02:14.960
you know that if you if you're done lol paladin's donated two hundred dollars you need to let her
02:02:23.200
otherwise you're controlling and abusive send these three hundred and fours back to the streets
02:02:29.280
well put lol paladin so look i am going to be up front about my expectations and standards
02:02:36.240
and preferences hold on let me can you stop interrupting stop so if a girl is inclined to
02:02:42.080
for example go out to nightclubs hey if you want to go do that you have the you have the power to go do
02:02:48.960
it our relationship is over if you want to i mean clear obviously i wouldn't even consider like a girl
02:02:55.360
couldn't even step to me and be like yeah i want to see what i want to be with another dude so that's
02:02:59.440
over what you need there is no conversation but what you need to understand you need to learn how
02:03:03.440
to let people finish their sentence i'm sorry fully finish their sentence because it's very complicated
02:03:09.520
when there's multiple people talking only one person can be heard at a time go ahead
02:03:14.720
i was just saying that we like a person like you and i if we have those differences in philosophies
02:03:19.840
or whatever you want to say relationship orientation is what i call it we would never
02:03:23.840
end up in an exclusive relationship with each other we're just not compatible and that's fine
02:03:28.240
i would only be with the compatible men who operate the same way right so in a sense
02:03:35.520
that's it works perfectly because they're the same way we all have the expectation we have the
02:03:41.520
same understanding and that's it if if we hit a road where we're not compatible we just part ways
02:03:48.080
easy peasy now andrew i i've heard you had the interesting conversations that's
02:03:52.800
perhaps somewhat related to the whole friend dynamic here related to submission andrew i'd like
02:03:58.400
to perhaps hear you have a bit of a back and forth with her when it comes are you do you consider
02:04:01.680
yourself submissive like would you yeah would you be submissive to a man 100 i want a man to leave
02:04:06.640
also uh go ahead andrew so let me kind of give you my perspective here and you can tell me what you
02:04:11.840
think but if you're in a uh committed relationship or a woman expects you to be in a committed
02:04:17.280
relationship wouldn't it be a great sign of respect from somebody who claims that they're submissive
02:04:23.280
to remove from the category any male friends that they may have as men often say it's not that i
02:04:31.360
don't trust you i don't trust them the truth is both though right the truth is is that they're
02:04:36.480
looking for respect from their woman and they know that as the old saying goes right shoulder to cry on
02:04:43.760
becomes a you can finish it right a shoulder to cry on becomes a what i don't know but i can imagine
02:04:50.720
i have no idea i've never even that becomes a d to ride on right the shoulder to cry on
02:04:57.280
that's the old adage right is that uh and it's true so if you if you guys will human review for
02:05:03.120
just a second isn't it true that when you're in a vulnerable state all of you probably on this panel
02:05:10.240
have had male friends who have probably tried to exploit that so that they could have sex with
02:05:14.400
you yeah am i wrong no a male friend no yes or a male a male period well a male yeah yeah in general
02:05:22.640
yeah right so i mean so so men uh especially when we're going through high school middle school things
02:05:28.560
like that we see all sorts of pathetic who do this type of right they're kind of they're like ah you know
02:05:34.560
she just broke up with such and such oh that's terrible sweetheart i'm so sorry that that happened
02:05:40.080
to you you know you know exactly what i'm talking about all of you know exactly what i'm talking about
02:05:45.120
so that's kind of my line on this is don't you think that it's really respectful if you want a
02:05:52.400
committed relationship he says look i can i'm the focus then yeah if i'm your man i'm the focus and
02:05:58.320
that's that and he needs to deserve that right hang on hang on let her let her finish you've had a lot
02:06:03.840
of a lot of speaking time and no no disrespect to you but uh let us have this exchange if you don't
02:06:08.400
mind go ahead yeah so i agree with you because i've been in two relationships and in both relationships
02:06:12.960
they were the main focus it wasn't cory every time i want to go out and hang out with people it was
02:06:18.400
literally with my man i was with my man 24 7. and for me personally i'm not sexually attracted to cory
02:06:24.880
he's not sexually attracted to me it has never been like that we've even had this conversation
02:06:28.880
before i said have you ever looked at me like that he's like ew no i was like okay good thank god
02:06:32.960
because that would have been weird for our relationship if he ever told sure sure well
02:06:36.080
i mean we're just going to assume it's all true or we'll assume he's your gay friend or whatever
02:06:40.320
regardless of all of that yeah if your man says to you listen it's a sign of respect to me
02:06:46.320
i want all men cut out of your life okay i want them out of your life and i need to be the focus
02:06:52.240
of your life isn't that true submission no because okay if i'm being honest okay i would just say
02:07:00.480
my mother and my dad they've been together for over 30 years and her best friend is a man and i asked
02:07:06.640
my dad dad you have you ever had a problem with their friendship and my dad told me no he said why
02:07:11.440
would i have a problem with that i like julian like and the thing is is that perhaps inside of that
02:07:17.360
dynamic this was able to work but the truth is is that the the chances of fidelity or infidelity
02:07:25.680
significantly decrease if you don't put yourself in a position to uh to commit infidelity right so
02:07:34.320
in other words if you're a man and you have a job where you're at a strip club or something like
02:07:39.360
this or you're around tons of promiscuous women i would say that your chances of infidelity would
02:07:44.960
increase no matter how high your virtue is because you could just have a moment of weakness
02:07:49.440
right you just up have a have a terrible moment of weakness ruin everything for yourself
02:07:54.800
due to that and so usually what i see people in successful relationships do
02:07:59.280
is move themselves away from anything that could cause any sort of potential problem for them
02:08:05.360
because we're only human right so if a man were to ask you like look i understand that this guy is
02:08:10.800
an old friend of yours i get it right and and i'm not even saying that you would do anything but as
02:08:15.920
a sign of respect to me if you truly are submissive and you want me then it needs to just be me
02:08:22.480
doesn't that seem reasonable can you meet all the woman's needs no it i understand let us let us assume
02:08:31.440
for a moment um that you can't let us assume that you have some failures that you're not perfect because
02:08:37.920
nobody is including you yeah um why is it that it's an unreasonable thing to request that if you
02:08:45.600
want to be with me for the rest of your life i don't ever want to have to worry about you and you
02:08:50.480
know what you know how i can always be assured that i never have to worry about you because i know that
02:08:55.040
i'm the person you're focusing on that's not because you show me this huge respect by focusing on no
02:09:01.040
other men but me so i don't even have sex at all because i don't like being touched unless i'm in
02:09:08.080
a relationship so there would be no worry about me stepping out there's no point in me stepping out
02:09:12.240
for what what's the reason so for him to think or assume i could possibly step out on with cory
02:09:18.160
that's dumb we would have done something within the last 16 years nothing sure sure i i i i'm not
02:09:24.240
even disputing any of this yeah like you know you know you far better than i do no yeah you know you
02:09:30.400
far better than me i'm not even disputing any of that what i'm saying is i i think what you're saying
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what you're doing is you're internalizing from your perspective what i'm saying externalize instead
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and look at it from the man's perspective um from his perspective not your perspective you could be
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correct about all of this in fact he could even be wrong but part of submission is that even if he
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could be wrong you follow him anyway because the truth is is that when you're submitted he gets
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almost everything right and if he's wrong about a couple things and that's what it takes for you to
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be in that kind of relationship isn't that worth it um can i say something hang on let her let her
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finish hang on we're almost done we're almost done with the exchange i can't end a 16 year friendship
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with someone that has been in my i just can't do it now if that's the only flaw that you can find in me
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then i think i'm doing a pretty damn good job of being a good woman that's the only thing
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and and and listen i'm not again i don't even need to really dispute that so i understand though but
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yeah think of it from the man's perspective yes what he's saying is that you're picking him
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over your man that's how he i know i know you don't think so i'm externalized i know i'm telling
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it from yeah think of it from their perspective he's gonna think that okay he's gonna think she's
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not willing to give me the respect that i'm asking for in this committed relationship and
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put me first why would he waste his time he would be put first because he's gonna be the one putting
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babies in me come on you know i'm gonna explain he's going from the assurance standpoint yeah the
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way that he knows that the babies are his is that you're not around other men that's that's an
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that's the old um so think about it this way before we had paternity tests which are new right they're
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they're new to this century before we had paternity tests the best way to assure that your offspring
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was yours is that your woman was exclusive to you that's the only way you could know so it's kind of
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built into men that if if your woman's around a lot of other men they could be unsure and so yeah that
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of course that would cause an insecurity and that's probably a good insecurity to cause right so me being
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in the fitness industry and being around a lot of a lot of guys that work out is he are you telling me
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that he's gonna say nope you can't be you can't go to any fitness events no i don't i don't think so
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i don't think that if it was in a professional setting that yeah you're working around men or
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something like this i think that most men are reasonable when it comes to such a setting but i
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think that if you're out hanging out with other men exclusively doing things with them uh maybe you
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and your friend like to go to movies or maybe you like to go to his house and hang out or maybe you
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like to go do a b or c that i think that they it's reasonable for them to see it as a sign of
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disrespect yeah well i'd have to we'd have to have that conversation because i'd be very open about
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everything i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna sugarcoat anything and like i said i don't have sex at all
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me personally i know there's a lot of other whores out here that will fuck their friends i'm not like
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that i don't have a roster of guys i'm dating with intent i want to get married and have children
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and if a guy were to tell me you know i don't think you can be friends with cory anymore then i
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guess we i guess him and i aren't gonna work because because my dad loves him loves cory and
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my mom everybody he's what you told me is that your highest value is always going to be cory it's not
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it's not because if it wasn't you got to think of it externally from you from the man's perspective
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your highest value is your best friend so he's always going to feel like he's second but great
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um to your best friend and why wouldn't you think that i can see that but that's
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that wouldn't be the case i know i know that that may not be the truth of the matter but if it's
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truly submission if it's truly submission then even when he's wrong right or you think he's wrong
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that is what submission is even when you think he's wrong you still submit and that's where where i think
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this disconnect happens constantly between men and women when it comes to submission they don't
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really know what that means i think the pretext too is maybe like this is an actual leader someone
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that we can trust someone that is worthy of being submit like submissive to i think if he's not then
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i mean that's the opposite yeah of worthy no no that's the opposite listen let's let us assume for
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a moment you chose him because he had all these leadership skills that you just loved right and
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you married him and you have submitted to him there might be years where he does things you don't like
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right there might be years where you have a rocky relationship there might be years where you're
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working through this in marriage right and you disagree with most of his choices but that's what
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submission is yeah that's what submission in marriage is it's work right it's work and you
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don't want to abandon that because you think he's making all the wrong decisions because the truth is is
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that you could be making the wrong decisions right you don't know that's what submission means
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so uh minus underscore two underscore hundred donated two hundred dollars red one where are you from
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what is your relationship status what do you think of brian what would you like to share with the
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audience today she answered if you want to give a quick answer hi guys um my name d my relationship
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status is single i think brian is um really cool really um to his self i don't really know what's
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going on in his head but uh i try to figure it out i think and i try not to offend and i try to learn
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um and what i'd like to put in i'd like to learn and i'd like to um add in whenever i can and it's hard
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when you have a panel of girls all talking at the same time and that's nobody's fault and i think
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it's beautiful that we're having even with him here andrew here like i i love the the yeah it's
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it's a it's a it's a good vibration right it's 46.4 hertz going on right there you go look at the
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vibrations happening everybody's happy i'm enjoying it and yeah if if you don't mind though um just real
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quick so we can wrap this up before we move it on madison if you don't mind um did you ever see
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that movie braveheart did you ever see that movie really you never saw it too young she's too young
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braveheart came out like 30 years ago yeah so what you she's watching classic movies they still watch
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great movies even if it's before their time not everybody okay so in this movie essentially a nobleman
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in one scene he ends up having sex with a man's wife on the night of her of her wedding with him
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and uh he spends the whole rest of the movie seething about it and uh this was done without
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consent of course and he spends the rest of the movie seething about it until he gets the opportunity
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to deal with this nobleman and when he deals with him it's very brutal it's not it's not a good
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death for the nobleman let's put it that way but if he if you want that kind of relationship where a
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man would do that on your behalf he's not going to want to worry about cory right he's not going to
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want to worry about cory he's not going to be want to be thinking about cory he's going to want to be
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thinking only about you and knowing that you're thinking only about him okay that's that's all i'm saying
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i get you all right uh where is brian uh oh i was just gonna say that you know how you mentioned
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like we all like we all have that one that kind of yeah yeah got away or whatever so someone that
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i was in a relationship with for two years this is when like 2015 14 he was really adamant about me
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not being friends with someone that i was friends with for so long that was a male and i was so rebellious
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against it i was literally saying everything that you were saying and you're saying and now i'm like
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dude like it's just it i it's a sacrifice that we're willing to make that wasn't like the only
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thing that was like the deal breaker but looking back i'm like man he was such a good man he had
02:17:37.760
great leadership skills he was loving and but i was just looking at it from but i've been with this
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or i've been i've known this guy for so long like it we like you know x y and z everything you're saying
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but looking back i'm just like man that that was like such a huge thing that i wish i regret like
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you know that's one of my regrets in life is just not submitting to that and letting go because
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that could have been someone that i could have an amazing relationship in marriage with you know and
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like that was feminism poisoning your mind no 100 like it was like oh i you know it just sounds
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though that cory is a little bit of a different situation you know he's a brother and he could be
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amazing brother he could be amazing but this is what my friend was amazing what women do they'll go
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they'll they'll they'll listen to this and when they see another woman faltering going you know what
02:18:21.920
actually this makes a lot of sense and it could lead to an inroad to happiness they sabotage it it's
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self-sabotage and they sabotage it as quickly as they possibly can for other women i don't know why
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they do this but that's the toxic side of that that's the toxic side there's also a healthy side where
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you do need to evaluate what are my anchor relationships i would call cory an anchor
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relationship a ride or die he could be a biological brother he's a different category than just
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somebody i've known for 10 years and he's not adding that much in my life and i'm going to pick
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this not for you to make the determination in a committed relationship i'm just simply saying it's not
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a black it's not as black and white of an issue as it's trying i think it is i think
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that if if on the one hand you say i want to have a man who's worth submitting to i think that that
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man uh is going to be somebody who you consider high virtue and not only high virtue but is going
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to take care of all sorts of problems you don't even see you don't even want to worry about it he
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doesn't want to fucking worry about you either he doesn't want to worry about shit he doesn't want
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to worry about fucking cory he doesn't want to worry about your relationship with you he doesn't want
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to worry about shit and you know how you can give him that great peace of mind by not doing it and
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that's the ultimate sign of respect and you know that type of man who you show that kind of respect
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to will do anything you know what i think they'll give you the whole they'll give you the whole world
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on a platter what if he can make her happy by being best friends of course yeah exactly because andrew
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wouldn't you want to be friends with the guy and feel him out happiness see this is the disconnect it's
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not about her happiness it's about what is submission and the cardinal and when we're
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looking at this we're looking at what is the dynamic between men and women which works best
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what is the dynamic for family that works best here's the dynamic and family that works best
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proven over and over and over again there so if you think about tradition think of it in these terms
02:20:19.040
experiments which worked that's tradition so here the family unit of a mom and a dad and children
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works better than anything else but what do you mean by works better in an economic sense how
02:20:31.520
does it work better all outcomes for the man woman and children if they stay together in an intact
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family are universally universally better than any other single dynamic we've ever seen universally
02:20:45.840
better well just because it's better than the other show doesn't mean it's optimal it still
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doesn't mean that well well hang on if so unless you can give a counter to any family dynamic that
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works better than the nuclear cross-generational family then you have no leg to stand on and so
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here's what i'm going to do tell me a family dynamic which is better than a nuclear or cross-generational
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family just give me one i think a more tribal society to be honest with you is a better structure
02:21:15.600
because that way if a man dies if he goes through a mental break or something and he's no longer
02:21:21.600
stable that woman has a social structure of brothers uncles aunt whatever best friends who
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just swoop right in and guess what those those kids have already gotten used to uncle cory and blah blah
02:21:35.280
blah they still already have that social structure with the with the people who matter the most their
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blood okay they're bloodline but guess what when you have a way more likely to step in and take
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care of your kids than cory is i have no blood men in my life who are healthy by any means hence why
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i've had a stream of not the best relationships because my dad was you're proving his point
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the point the point would be for a woman like me it would be more you're making my point for me you're
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saying in inside of your own life absent this intact family unit you had worse outcomes that's my no
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no that's not what i'm saying i had an intact family unit with very abusive people which led to well wait
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i'm sorry did maybe i'm wrong i'm gonna check my notes here did you say that your parents are still
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married no they're not still married but i came from i came from a my my biological parents never got
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married my mother when i was three married my stepdad talking about you're proving his point girl
02:22:40.400
you're proving my point you said that you have had so many broken relationships or men that were
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unhealthy and it's because your family structure was broken as well your family what i'm saying is
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i came from as much of a traditional structure as that's not traditional there's a mom and there's a mom
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there's a mom there's a dad yeah but there's biologically there has to be a mom and dad
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we're talking about a traditional but unconditional love wouldn't have all these rules of we can't be
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friends with cory that's not unconditional love i hate to break it to you so we're dealing with the
02:23:15.760
best that you're bringing me to the table hang on i hate to break it to you but the truth is is that
02:23:22.160
you what you've done here is you have demonstrated very well my point which is from broken home in a
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perfect world in a perfect world if a man met all of my needs and he was the most healthy godly man
02:23:38.400
and he went to god every moment of every day and made sure that he was fact-checking himself and he had
02:23:45.120
pastors or leaders or ministers grandpas who were healthy men and he was every choice he was gonna make
02:23:52.160
he went and hashed it out with god and his elders and then he came and stepped it to me and said
02:23:58.000
you know what i know that cory's your friend but i'm just getting a little vibe there you know can
02:24:05.760
we talk about this and then he brings the wisdom it's not just he's coming to her and saying it's
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not just he's coming and saying you can't be friends with them yeah okay okay but one point
02:24:16.320
i just made it up hang on hang on before you go on a diatribe just like let's let's do an exchange
02:24:20.880
good faith exchange just kind of one point at a time the point one that you're talking about here
02:24:26.080
again makes my point for me so you say listen me me me me me me me me me me me me me if a if if a man
02:24:36.320
will do x for me if me if me me me if also me and then on top of that a little bit more me with a sprinkle of me
02:24:44.880
with a dash of me with a cherry on top of me then i will submit well at the end of the day i'm all i
02:24:52.800
have hang on let me finish so then what happens is you split off from what you consider traditionalism
02:24:59.360
because that's not traditionalism i'm not traditional submission yeah i know but that's
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my point again you're not traditional and the experiment of your broken family is exactly why
02:25:09.840
you're in the position you're in now i'm super happy that certain people live in a society and
02:25:14.720
a world and a family system where traditional works perfectly fine and it's beautiful not all of us come
02:25:21.280
from that blessings point and so no but i'm saying i i literally do not live in a safe environment well
02:25:31.280
it's not gonna be safe if the entire environment has to be revolve around me me me me me me me well
02:25:36.320
guess what like i said i'm a mother i can't go down i have had men come in my life and promise me
02:25:44.080
the world they're gonna take care of the kids they're gonna pay the bills they're gonna do this
02:25:47.920
they're gonna do that here's a marriage here's a ring here's a ceremony blah blah blah and then i get
02:25:52.960
into it and i agree to all of that and then yeah it goes really bad but i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna
02:26:01.040
tell you the truth and this is this is not a fun truth but it is the truth stepfather myself okay i
02:26:07.040
have stepchildren myself the truth of the matter is is that unless you as a woman if you have children
02:26:13.520
especially with another man and you're asking a man to share his resources to take care of those
02:26:18.480
children submission becomes 10 times more important because what value are you bringing to the table for
02:26:24.560
them what value do you actually i cook i clean i really well i suck dick really well i get the
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bills paid and i take care of the kids anybody can do that no that's not true i'm out yeah it's true
02:26:39.600
do you think that women with no children can't do that way better than you probably
02:26:47.040
listen do you think that it's really that difficult to satiate a man's sexual needs
02:26:51.120
but guess what a lot of these women have so many traumas they can't even get there they're scared
02:26:56.800
of dicks i'm talking real talk here i'm out in the field you don't believe you're talking you have
02:27:01.440
trauma i have had to heal through massive amounts of trauma like even right now you said like all i
02:27:07.040
have is myself when he was saying like me me me but hold on hold on but right but that is because
02:27:12.640
you feel like all you have is yourself because you didn't have a mom and you didn't have that structure
02:27:16.880
you didn't have that support but so you can't even you can't even hold on you can't even accept
02:27:21.200
a husband to help you carry the burden however i've had i've had my parents are married 50 years
02:27:27.040
and they're happy they have more sex than anyone i know i love that amen and i feel the same way
02:27:33.840
as me exactly because we live in a particular society some of us just don't fit these cookie
02:27:40.400
cutter molds of how it's supposed to go as long as you two are both happy and you both can make
02:27:46.560
their relationship work the way you want they don't work though so here's the stats on polyamorous
02:27:52.800
relationships 95 of them fail 95 how many monogamous relationships do you think are actually
02:28:02.000
very happy just because people stay together which is only what one and two stay together happiness
02:28:08.640
how many are happy it's not even about happiness it's the sacrifice and the commitment if you
02:28:13.680
especially if you made it under god i've been through hell and at this point i'm just here to
02:28:19.360
have a good time so see but you say that now but when you're 80 and remember i'm not gonna say you but
02:28:24.400
a lot of people that think like you they're gonna be 80 and alone and they're gonna true they're gonna
02:28:29.360
have their kids there they're friends with benefits they might have a spouse they might have two
02:28:35.280
spouses you guys are i know but you're you're saying that because your mind is saying of all
02:28:40.080
this relationships but that's not the reality guys one at a time hang on hang on let let let her
02:28:45.680
give her a point uh to the gal this is one west hang on not you you're not the gal in the center
02:28:52.160
let her let her let her give her point you can respond i promise go ahead no all i'm saying is that
02:28:57.680
you can think of all these realities in your head like oh well that could happen that could happen but
02:29:02.880
that's not reality of what really happens do you know how we were designed let her finish her point
02:29:08.400
hang on go ahead um keep going just okay okay all right so yeah so you're saying all these things
02:29:16.240
but the reality is even like if you look at the statistics feminists i'm that are oh they're alone
02:29:22.800
and they're they they have their own on medications antidepressants like they hate that whole there's so
02:29:28.080
many fucking variables that go into this you can't say it's because i'm not saying it's just go look
02:29:33.760
at other societies that aren't running hold on can i finish my point though what is two plus two
02:29:39.120
yeah let's finish right there because if you don't if we're not at that same
02:29:45.200
answer what is two plus two what oh in math arithmetic but are we talking algebra just like a piece of
02:29:56.480
paper with the number representation of a two okay look at your age earlier one plus one two cups
02:30:04.080
there we go okay cool uh let me we gotta get caught up on a couple chats here okay all right
02:30:16.720
the epistles lmao is an underground gen z band who sings in vibes tongues and word salad
02:30:22.560
i like it i like it let's go with that andrew let's go with that we'll go with that all right
02:30:29.760
sounds good i like it thank you various crazy i like you too andrew go ahead i'm a i'm a likable
02:30:36.960
guy i got i was super wet when i went potty stop blondie in the brown shirt needs to shut the f up and
02:30:43.040
stop injecting nonsense into every conversation no one cares oh my god who the hell nick you gotta
02:30:51.440
fix it's behind andrew do you do you see what i'm talking about on center zoom you're the layers are
02:30:59.040
fucked go ahead maddie yeah nick no i'm kidding i love you here you can fix it hold on go to center
02:31:09.680
zoom can you twitch alerts pull it drag it up above discord okay go ahead can you explain what the
02:31:19.200
fabric of american culture is made of in your opinion uh who's this this came in 34 minutes ago so
02:31:28.160
i don't know who it's that's a fantastic question i think um it's based off of i know this is like
02:31:34.080
debatable but christian values it's a christian nation um the declaration of independence this
02:31:39.520
the whole founding fathers although there's darkness to it there's always be darkness we're
02:31:43.120
in in the world um but a lot of it is based off of christian values um but it we've we have removed
02:31:51.120
god so much from this culture that now we're a godless society and people are just running off of no
02:31:56.240
no values it's just their truth whatever feels right whatever is going with the flow whatever is
02:32:01.200
just the vibe right now and there's no real foundation so i feel like that was the american culture
02:32:08.080
and we've moved away from it but i believe there's a revival happening as well that's my opinion okay
02:32:13.360
go ahead madison read this one for andrew just for argument's sake extreme polygamy such as
02:32:20.160
was practiced for the first 500 000 years ago of human prehistory kept us alive during the ice ages
02:32:26.720
no i not only do i not believe it but that is not what the archaeological evidence supports nor the dna
02:32:34.640
evidence that's not what it supports okay thank you law paladins appreciate it moving over to jess here
02:32:42.320
so jess in our hold on my notes just bugged out uh okay but assuming even it did if even if it did
02:32:50.000
let's let us assume that if you really believe in evolution as being a foundation uh towards uh you
02:32:57.600
know thing in society which we're evolving towards the polygamy or polygamy is not the order of the day but
02:33:03.360
monogamy is so we evolved to be monogamous so even if i grant your argument who cares
02:33:11.280
andrew you know what that's a great way to put it and that's what i had discovered
02:33:15.280
this is a great point and it's you have 20 seconds make your point i think monogamy is something to
02:33:20.720
build up to not something that you should start out as that's the only point i was making you should
02:33:26.240
evolve into the place of monogamy that's all you're not going to evolve in 80 years evolution
02:33:32.320
is a small it's a tiny minute process no no i'm simply saying thousands it could take you it could
02:33:38.000
take you a year to evolve into monogamy with somebody that's all i'm saying everybody yeah
02:33:41.840
so until then be promiscuous to destroy your chances of monogamy that seems like it's counterproductive
02:33:47.200
i love sex cool yeah i know but your chances of being in a monogamous relationship greatly
02:33:53.520
decrease the more promiscuous you are at least for somebody who's valuable okay we're going
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and uh thank you so much all right so moving on over to jess jess you said you're in a relationship
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but you wrote in your pre-show notes you're definitely on rocky terms are things rocky in
02:34:49.280
your relationship and this is you have how many kids again just one this is with the father of
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your kids right ulysses the pagan donated 200 some way to raise your children blonde frequency you twist
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the adage prepare your child for the road not he rode for the child thomas froze wow that's some
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shakespeare shit thank you man appreciate it thank you little thank you uh we got 200 bucks
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i need some cliff notes thank you man appreciate it uh so you're on rocky terms what's going on with
02:35:19.360
your relationship um it's just we started off really quickly um in terms of before i met him i was single
02:35:27.360
for six years i was celibate for three years before i met him and when i met him i told him precisely what
02:35:33.440
it was that i wanted and i felt like i was lied to on his end as to what it was as to what it was that
02:35:41.520
he wanted um i'm more definitely of the traditional type in in a relationship and he's definitely much
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more liberal and that's something that i guess was kept from me when i was um getting into a relationship
02:35:58.400
with him liberal in what way liberal in a sense uh politically or in terms of his views on
02:36:04.240
relationship dynamics yes yes so you guys 50 50 type thing or what do you yeah um i'm very um i'm
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i'm moderate i'm conservative in some aspects and then i'm liberal in others um i'm not completely
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closed-minded i can see another person's perspective um but i was very open with him with what i wanted and
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i feel like i was when i found out he cheated because he cheated on me when i found out that
02:36:32.080
he cheated on me i completely um left him alone because i was 24 at the time didn't i was like i'm
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not here for this or whatever but okay then i found out i was pregnant so that kind of tied us down right
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now okay um so oh natalia thank you for the gifted 20 memberships
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you're a legend appreciate it thank you thank you you said you disagree with something about the
02:37:00.160
show the degrading can you do you care to elaborate no i guess just in in terms of just how with certain
02:37:07.840
guests um how they um yes yes can you give me an example um calling them calling them
02:37:18.640
bitch or get the fuck out like there's a certain way you could talk to people to get them to
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understand that what they're saying or doing is wrong that's probably what she meant well i'm
02:37:27.200
asking her not you so the words ought to come out of her mouth go ahead i think in terms of let's say
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i guess specifically um chase for example i think you know just in terms oh god but um just i guess in
02:37:40.560
terms of how i don't agree with um the whole he's the whole christian man and everything i mean i'm
02:37:45.760
catholic i'm so i just feel like there's a way to get to people you don't have to agree with them but
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you also just have to do it in a sense of um compassion to get to someone in terms of
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how do i explain this correct well um compassion takes multiple forms so compassion if some occasionally
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well not even occasionally depending depending on who you're talking to uh sometimes language
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is going to seem vulgar it's going to seem brutal uh you are entering into verbal jujitsu when you're
02:38:24.240
trying to change a person's mind but outside of that scope you're trying to change the mind of
02:38:29.040
thousands upon thousands of people who watch as well so chase uniquely has had millions of people
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see his clips have gone viral all over the internet so he feels like he has a responsibility to explain
02:38:43.040
himself um to you in a way which you are going to maybe it's jarring or maybe it's it sounds brutal
02:38:51.840
but it's a way to not only get his message to you but to millions of other people that seems
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reasonable to me now uh i can i can understand where it can it can feel like it's degrading
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but there's some people who it's going to always seem degrading to if they're on the other end of
02:39:07.200
the ire when you're trying to wake them up right yeah i i understand that but i just feel like there's
02:39:12.800
a way to deliver a message to people and other ways but i mean like i said i'm
02:39:20.560
open everyone has different forms of communication and how they say things um i just personally okay well i'd
02:39:26.320
like to get into specifics here because first off uh chase has not been on the show in something like
02:39:34.400
eight or nine months he hasn't been on i'm talking like about like the previous eclipse i i rewatch a
02:39:41.120
bunch of the clips so right well it's hard because one chase isn't here he also hasn't been on the show
02:39:46.880
in my nine months so i can't really if there's something i could try to speak on his behalf if you
02:39:52.240
can point me to something specifically that chase has said that you disagree with
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okay stop why don't you answer the question go ahead um i can't really pinpoint a certain one i
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mean i could if you'd like go um what it's just i'm just talking about the deliverance of certain
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things like okay what specifically has chase delivered that you disagree with not what he
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says because i agree with with the things that he says what did he say and what did he say and how did
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he say it i think like i said just the tone of it just just in general just what what was his tone
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i can't you don't even remember the topic at hand i like i said like condescending or maybe like i said
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i just i it's just it just depends like like on how you you speak to the person and and in terms of
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you're um you're a catholic right yes have you ever seen your priest spit on the devil
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no no you've never seen them do a harsh rebuke no you've never seen your priest do a harsh rebuke
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ever no you've never seen your priest do a harsh rebuke towards the demonic ever no not once no well
02:41:24.160
what kind of priests don't even rebuke the devil i'm not sure how to like well you as a catholic in
02:41:36.720
your tradition you believe in the demonic you believe in what's called demonic obsession demonic
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obsession is the first pathway in catholicism towards demonic possession it's the most common
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obsession priests often in the catholic church will give harsh rebukes towards the demonic
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especially for those who are suffering from obsession so yes in in my church well um in my catholic church
02:42:03.520
mother my priest he usually always is very um he likes to keep everything light he will always um
02:42:10.800
just make sure that everyone's awake because he has this joke where like everyone falls asleep in church
02:42:15.440
where people go to catholic church and they fall asleep or they're falling so he basically always
02:42:19.680
tries to keep it um yes all right well i'm just gonna but if you're a catholic you have exorcists
02:42:27.120
in your church they exercise demons out of people that's what they do you have a whole branch in
02:42:34.080
catholicism called exorcists do you think that they go and they're just like nice to demonically possess
02:42:39.520
people do you think that when they're rebuking demons they're like now listen sweetie i don't want to
02:42:43.600
hurt your feelings but i really need that demon to come out can we just can we okay now wait fred
02:42:49.920
we don't want to upset her we're just trying to get the demon out we're just gonna sprinkle a little
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holy water on her head do you think that that's how they do that like i said that's just my perspective
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on how to say things to people and in terms of me when i'm talking to someone about something and even
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if i don't um agree with them or i just don't it's just i just look at it differently i'm just saying the
02:43:11.280
tone of it that's it okay i need chase is not here i need a specific example like i said i don't have
02:43:19.840
a specific example how did he say it then you don't even need to use what he said verbatim i guess just
02:43:24.800
how did he say it i guess just when i have a conversation with people i don't raise my voice
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at anyone i try to always um stay leveled um just just to really um be able to have both of our points
02:43:35.520
uh stemmed across you know like i okay well let me just defend chase chase is actually one of the
02:43:43.200
most respectful guests we've had he typically doesn't raise his voice sometimes he can be
02:43:48.480
uh animated or charismatic but he's uh typically very polite and respectful now it's possible look
02:43:55.520
he's been on multiple episodes these episodes are hours long i haven't committed to memory every single
02:44:01.440
thing that chase has said and i haven't committed to memory the way every single way he's said it or
02:44:07.840
his tone but i mean at least to my recollection generally speaking chase tends to have been
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always very respectful to the guests yeah i was like that what's her name kiko i would say she
02:44:21.760
she's she's disrespectful i'll say she's raised her voice that is a good point sure i would say that
02:44:26.640
now what what is interesting about oh sorry go ahead do you want to continue i was just gonna say
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that's something that i also notice a lot with the the liberal side is if you say something that is
02:44:35.840
factually proven they get upset they get angry and then they get violent and i would and i noticed
02:44:41.440
that with her when he would say something she doesn't like she's like man fuck you i can't believe
02:44:45.440
you said no you're an asshole like that's insane like we can have a conversation it's a trigger
02:44:50.080
and true totally true and i've never i've never seen that on a conservative side to be honest and i
02:44:55.760
see that a lot on that side and it's just not i can argue with that actually because i see a lot
02:45:01.680
of that on conservative side a lot of people physically shut down when you bring up specific
02:45:07.360
issues and they keep going around in circles not even answering the question nobody no side is immune
02:45:13.360
into this sort of thing exactly exactly so everybody has exactly like an emotional process
02:45:19.840
yeah it's all i think if we i think if like let me ask you a question who's pushing political
02:45:25.360
correctness more conservatives or liberals liberals no hold on this is a question directed at her go
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ahead okay so specifically political correctness liberals so i am not 100 liberal i i do want to say that
02:45:40.240
i'm not i do not consider myself liberal i'm more um not quite in between but i understand both sides
02:45:48.480
let me ask you another question when it comes to friendship who do you think is more willing to
02:45:52.960
be friends with somebody who has a different political opinion than them what is a conservative
02:45:57.920
more likely to be willing to be friends with somebody who's liberal or is a liberal more like
02:46:01.920
willing to be friends with somebody who's conservative in my personal experience liberals really in my
02:46:09.040
personal experience here's here's my view of this and i tend to think i'm a bit more moderate
02:46:14.400
when conserve conservatives typically will look at liberals and see it's more so a difference of
02:46:19.360
opinion and worldview liberals will paint conservatives as evil typically and so there's a pretty big
02:46:27.440
difference and they've actually i believe nick and you maybe find there was a study on this i do think
02:46:32.800
that cons they found that conservatives were more willing to be friends with liberals okay than the
02:46:38.640
reverse which which again everyone has their own personal experience i cannot speak for everybody
02:46:44.960
obviously um in my experience i have a lot of conservative friends i have a lot of liberal friends
02:46:51.280
and i've seen them interact with each other i've seen them having friendly discussions and friendly debates
02:46:57.360
where everyone just agrees to disagree but they have things in common and all of the issues between
02:47:03.920
both sides are the same issues they're just handled from different perspectives and different view
02:47:09.760
anyways so well well going back going back to this so when it comes to the uh tone policing stuff
02:47:18.560
something that's interesting is is that if a woman says something disrespectful and it uh perhaps flusters
02:47:28.160
a man and the man responds matt like andrew says matches her energy people will typically disregard
02:47:37.920
the uh precipitating factor in the man's belligerence they'll kind of cast aside when a woman is aggressive
02:47:46.320
and then they'll singularly look at the man's response without any regard to how the woman might
02:47:54.160
have yeah might have uh what's the word uh she might have instigated it or added toxicity to the
02:48:00.400
conversation right and actually i think that's so speaking to to your thing i don't know if you're
02:48:06.640
referencing this clip where i kicked off this only fans girl who had been absolutely obnoxious the entire
02:48:12.320
night she came on to troll and as she was leaving i was kicking her off she said good luck with your
02:48:18.000
dead ass podcast in which i called her a bitch and then i made some you know comments about that's
02:48:24.240
fair though that was a fair exchange i agreed with you
02:48:28.960
like andrew and i i call him an asshole he kind of does this it's okay it's banter it's you're right
02:48:34.960
you're giving me back my own medicine it's fair there's debate and then there's just being straight
02:48:42.160
up rude for no reason but one of the criticisms criticisms i received in that situation where
02:48:48.320
she had been trolling the entire night she'd been disrespectful the entire night the segment got hold
02:48:53.520
on stop the segment got clipped and it shows me you know she says a couple things to me i say some
02:49:00.160
things to her uh she kind of instigated in my view like with what andrew says i'll match people's energy
02:49:06.960
i'll typically try to be look sometimes you get frustrated lose your cool whatever typically though
02:49:13.520
i'm not going to be insulting towards somebody unless they've been insulting towards me first
02:49:18.320
i'm not perfect it doesn't know but most of the time i try to keep a calm head in this case though
02:49:23.680
a lot of people despite the clip including the parts in which she was at fault nobody seems to
02:49:29.200
acknowledge that somebody can kind of ah it's not it's not quite it's almost like there's a
02:49:34.720
prejudice against a masculine presentation of aggression there is like a didn't need to be
02:49:41.920
you didn't need to stay level-headed as long as you were right for example there's many women who are
02:49:49.200
physically abusing their male partners yet they don't or they don't get the same for example i have had
02:49:56.160
domestic issues i'm sorry i'm gonna move it on okay maddie can you read this
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dna says 17 women reproduced for every one man only 8 000 years ago we're regressing back to that
02:50:09.520
monogamy only existed for a short period of time and it came with religion explain why it's better
02:50:16.480
oh please somebody that's a good one i'm excited for an answer i don't
02:50:20.800
blondie you're a scammer do you ever think about the potential dmg you did to your family when you
02:50:28.480
go to sleep at night i do andrew you have to be super insecure if you need to control your lady
02:50:33.120
submission huh okay should i answer that or respond or it's just a statement lol paladins we'll get back
02:50:39.760
to you in a sec god so yeah i do that's honestly my driving motivation in all of my life is to reflect
02:50:47.280
on mistakes i've made and mistakes that were done to me and i try to go back to the root instead of
02:50:54.480
dealing with all these symptoms i'm i go back and back and back and back and back and figure out where
02:50:59.680
it actually went wrong and then i am trying the best that i can like um you said we're not perfect
02:51:05.280
people i make mistakes but i'm doing the best i can to fix those issues at the root cause and
02:51:12.560
pray do my best to create a different result for my kids if someone conservative can argue
02:51:20.080
their views well they rarely need to become emotional or use ad hominem liberals revert
02:51:25.040
to anger and personal attacks more often that's true cool yeah that's good yeah now going back to
02:51:30.640
what lol paladin says i believe this might have been directed at you it was talking about monogamy
02:51:35.760
polygamy explain why i guess polygamy is better i think that's what he's getting at i thought it was
02:51:40.880
the opposite i thought it was the other way why is the monogamy better yeah he's making the the
02:51:46.960
scientific assertion like monogamy should be the one that should have to prove that it's better
02:51:52.960
not polyamory it's opposite we have the script flipped in a lot of ways you're right you're right
02:51:58.080
so let's see if we can't scientifically prove that it's better can you name a society which does not
02:52:02.960
practice monogamy as a standard that's better than the societies which do many tribal nations don't
02:52:08.720
practice go ahead name the society that is better that does not practice monogamy is a
02:52:15.600
standard than the societies which do um i believe it's switzerland they're not very monogamous over
02:52:22.320
there yes monogamy is the standard is part of the un the un is outlawed polygamy okay just because
02:52:29.680
something is outlawed doesn't mean in practice people aren't living that way and very happy with it
02:52:34.720
very few live that way many many more people but again my personal friend the standard of monogamy the
02:52:42.720
standard this is the nation's standard okay can you name a society where the nation's standard is not
02:52:49.360
monogamy that is doing better than the societies of where the nation's standard is are you familiar
02:52:55.440
with esther pearl esther pearl she's a and you just named the society for me just i would say america
02:53:02.800
is not doing well with monogamy no erroneous what society wait wait wait great this is perfect go ahead
02:53:09.440
what society can you point to that's doing better than the united states where the standard is not
02:53:16.880
monogamy i'd love to know did you know that the united states of america is number 25 in the world as far
02:53:24.480
as far as maternal and infant death this question the short answer is a lot of other countries are
02:53:30.960
doing way better than we are wait hold on hold on hold on that doesn't make any sense listen
02:53:38.240
even if i were to grant that there's more infant mortality in the united states than other developed
02:53:43.920
countries right which are still also practice monogamy as their standard by the way can you name a nation
02:53:51.360
where monogamy is not the standard which it most definitely is in the united states that you can't
02:53:56.240
have a pluralistic marriage in the united states it's quite illegal you go to prison for a long time
02:54:01.360
can you name a nation anywhere on planet earth where the society does better where the standard is not
02:54:08.640
monogamy i would tell you that the standard in the whole world the the law of monogamy is what we
02:54:18.240
yeah let's just start with that but it's not actually what's practiced in the day-to-day lives
02:54:22.960
of the average person in america monogamy okay what do you think it is with all the cheating culture
02:54:29.440
what do you think it is with the the emotional best friend what do you think it is with the dating
02:54:36.160
culture and the okay so let me rephrase specific pluralistic marriage which is not monogamy pluralistic
02:54:44.080
i'm not talking about legal i'm talking about in practice let me ask the question so i can make
02:54:48.880
it hyper specific so you can't evade it again can you name a nation where the standard is not monogamy
02:54:54.720
monogamy being one man one woman married in holy matrimony that's the standard for the nation can you name
02:55:00.880
a pluralistic nation that does better than any of the nations which have a standard for one man one
02:55:06.640
woman in marriage can you what's the better what is the definition of better where all the metrics are
02:55:11.840
are better so we're talking about any of the metrics we're not doing that well i hate to
02:55:16.640
break it to you i'm going to explain what they are i'm going to explain what they are calm down
02:55:20.160
we're going to look at outcomes for human beings we're going to look at how well they're fed we're
02:55:24.320
going to look at what their happiness indexes are we're going to look at basically everything across
02:55:29.440
the board that you can think of housing standards we're going to think about economic prosperity
02:55:33.920
all of those things give me one nation one we are fat we are sick we are on medications we are on
02:55:43.280
a plethora of medications can you answer my question i think there's many many other
02:55:48.000
societies i just told you switzerland is doing a lot better hold on the standard in switzerland
02:55:54.560
is one man one woman for marriage the practice standard in switzerland from my personal friends who live
02:56:01.520
there is not actually because you clearly can't follow the arguments we'll do it this way hold
02:56:07.040
on you steal man my position can what can you just steal man my position that means can you give me my
02:56:12.560
argument back to me so i know you i'm gonna agree with i'll say america's doing great and monogamy
02:56:18.480
it's awesome and we're all so happy let's do you can't give me my argument back can you your argument
02:56:24.160
back i don't have the same view or this i didn't ask you if you had the same view hold on i'm asking you
02:56:30.320
if you can just go ahead and repeat repeat to me the question i'm asking you can you just is there
02:56:37.840
a is there a society in the world who is not primarily marriage is not about happiness but
02:56:47.280
about growth growth is hard you see relationships through the lens of hedonism constantly seeking
02:56:54.720
pleasure like a child will stunt her spiritual growth amen that that is assuming that you are
02:57:02.000
not going into each relationship to grow yourself if every relationship in your life you have the
02:57:08.160
primary purpose of growing as a person you're not seeking pleasure great great before we get to that
02:57:13.760
can you just tell me back to me what my question to you is say it again no my question to you is can you
02:57:21.840
name a society anywhere on planet earth which is pluralistic in their marriage practices which is
02:57:28.720
better than the societies which have monogamy as the standard for marriage in me i'm trying to give
02:57:36.400
you my answer and you're not wanting to accept so you said switzerland correct okay so hold on so let me
02:57:42.800
ask you a question when you answered switzerland you stated i have some friends who live in switzerland
02:57:48.800
and they are in polygamous polyamorous relationships i'm telling you from a social science perspective
02:57:55.280
i have many friends in switzerland i do business with them and they're telling me the culture what it
02:58:01.040
actually is in practice that they're doing that works and it's not are your friends polygamist
02:58:07.600
some of them are and some of them are not so they're just simply reporting on the average
02:58:11.680
so yeah hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on so are you making the argument that more
02:58:20.800
than 51 percent of people in switzerland it's it's a polygamous society is that your position i'm not
02:58:27.680
talking about legal i'm talking about people might be legally married to one person and they have other
02:58:32.800
relationships with other yes some might but i'm asking you if a majority of people in switzerland
02:58:39.440
are moving in that way to not being monogamous yes are you just not listening hello i'm just trying
02:58:48.480
to simply clarify because what is there to clarify you guys just want on paper statistics that do not
02:58:55.520
represent what's actually going on in the actual relationship between look i know i think i think we
02:59:01.520
can make those extrapolations of what's going on based on how many people are in those polygamous
02:59:06.000
relationships versus are not but when we're asking about this so here's what i will tell you in
02:59:10.960
switzerland it's illegal illegal to marry multiple people so back to my question can you name a society
02:59:18.240
which is better that practices as a matter of law of that you can get married to multiple people as
02:59:26.400
opposed to the society where it's a matter of law that you can only get married to one can you name one
02:59:30.880
they're in any of the colonized societies the advanced societies they have all run with this
02:59:38.800
propaganda that monogamy is the way to go and so they've made that the legal standard they've made
02:59:44.240
that the legal standard is that what people practice so the answer is no you can't name one correct
02:59:51.760
if you need to be right sure no no if you need to be right can you name one or not
02:59:57.680
i have tried to communicate with you in the way that resonates with me see men don't like that
03:00:05.200
they don't like combative they don't like all this they don't men don't like this stop doing that
03:00:09.360
just no i'm happy with that i love that i want to know you're right you're right america is doing
03:00:16.080
the best job all right madison read this please hint for blonde no no no no hey andrew what brand
03:00:24.000
do you smoke kiko the finest fork in the cast andrew that's for you uh yeah i smoke marble reds
03:00:34.400
all right i need to move on with my notes here so going to you desiree you stated that you basically
03:00:42.560
solved all of the world all of world problems simply by flipping the script of the patriarchy
03:00:48.320
and going back to a system where women do the choosing you are a savant a social scientist
03:00:53.680
only fans model and a good old american-made single mom of three trying to get your bills paid out here
03:00:59.120
in a man's world okay what do you mean flipping the script of the patriarchy okay so the easiest way
03:01:06.080
to describe it is do you have daughters does anybody have do you have a daughter do you have a daughter
03:01:11.120
and she has a daughter right so when your daughter was born like many daughters okay that's perfect
03:01:16.960
perfect i have two daughters myself when that baby girl is born you would die for her on the spot like
03:01:25.680
that's your baby girl you're gonna protect her you're gonna serve her you're gonna love her you're
03:01:29.200
gonna you want this anything you want can you arrive at the point okay so the point is a woman was designed
03:01:36.240
to be treated that way every second of her life just because she grows up but aren't there hold on
03:01:43.600
they feel the same way with their sons what are you talking about yeah aren't there
03:01:49.440
wait i really don't understand this if you as a father hold your baby son you have the same
03:01:56.000
feeling what the hell are you talking about i understand that but there is there is an understanding
03:02:01.440
that feminine essence beings are very sensitive we need a little bit of extra coddling we need a
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little extra protection we're physically more weak so what's the exchange for that what's the what
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what's the exchange if the exchange is that you're a little bit weaker and you need a little bit more
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coddling and you need a little bit more society to kiss your ass stop stop what's the exchange what's
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the exchange to men what do we get you get pussy oh i see the only thing that you can offer us is the
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thing that you that we also can offer back to you right which is dick i guess i have toys i mean you
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guys aren't doing that so the thing is your whole value structure everything within your values revolves
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to i deserve to have my ass kissed because i have a vagina i make the babies you don't make the babies
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how did that how did we get the math wrong we don't need you yes i'm not saying it's personal but we
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actually don't yes we do well who invented i'm sorry who invented the technology for you to be able
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to do that i guess what we could have invented the technology we could have but you didn't listen
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this is not this is not to say that men don't have their role it's simply to say we actually have
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the bodies that produce the babies then what are you going to do when there's obviously of a higher
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what do you do when there's artificial wombs what what about artificial wombs we shouldn't
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have artificial wombs that is usurping the power of a woman and it's making us not as valuable the
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power of a woman so so then what do men get then from women what did women get then from women if we
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have artificial wombs and we no longer need your womb you don't want women what you guys would all
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kill yourselves within three days of not having women here the only reason you are here is to
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impress us to protect us to fuck us right to get our adoration to have us feel like we're worshiping
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you and we're sucking your dicks i mean there's an energy exchange here that works super weird there
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was a great episode that happened i believe it was survivor where men and women were divided up into
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groups and the men were sent to an island to survive and the women were sent to an island to survive now
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interestingly enough the men lasted a lot longer than three days without the women in fact they
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were thriving they were killing everything that hang on stop they were killing everything that they
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could possibly find they were eating like kings they rediscovered fire with nothing but their own
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minds while the women were freezing to death they literally gave up within just a couple of days and
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begged the men to go to their campfire but we wouldn't last three days without women is that right i'm
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simply saying if you guys literally knew that every woman dropped dead and she was not there you're
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talking about a simulation where they know at the end of this they're gonna go home to their girlfriend
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they're gonna go home to their mom their aunt their daughter and the women are still there i'm saying
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if all the women were just dropped dead yeah what are you guys gonna do that would be the same problem
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you would have in reverse without the infrastructure but my point is we actually do all you do i listen
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to everything you say but then when i try to respond you cut right in so just hang tight let me get my
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point in too what if this situation was reversed if men were gone who would maintain the infrastructure
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go ahead and lie to me and say women no no don't get me wrong i am not saying that each man is just
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null and void i'm simply saying that women need to have an extra layer of reverence and protection
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and respect from erroneous that we don't get erroneous what we don't get in exchange what do men get
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men get our presence right that's it you have nothing so what you're saying to me here's here's
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you're saying there's nothing here's what we're doing to go around and around and around you say
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women deserve these extra privileges from men okay that's fair but when i ask what are women giving
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and they just me it's like well now you understand why i feel like it's a given that you know what a
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woman offers i don't know why it's impossible for you to let me finish a sentence but now so what you're
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saying is is that the only thing you bring to the table is your vagina and so all hang on all a man ever
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has to do is reject your vagina because it's literally the only thing of value you have no i
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said it's the most valuable thing we have we have lots of other points of value that's just the most
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hints why many women choose to be celibate they choose to wait for their husbands because we inherently
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know this is our most prized possession is our body but i'm just simply saying it's a lot of for a lot
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of us it's because this is my sacred vessel you're not entering this until we're at a certain point
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you have proven yourself to me i know you're going to be a good father etc a woman doesn't get to
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envelop her around my dick until you've done xyz and i'm giving you the gift of allowing you to
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envelop my penis what what's really amazing here and a good man that is how i feel about him to be
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honest i love being yeah i love you've actually devastated for that the best way for men to
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remove your power over them is for them to just not be interested in your vagina yeah and that's
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fine i that's it obviously that's the only thing what else do you bring to the table besides two
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hundred dollars artificial wombs are usurping the power of a woman yet she just said she has toys
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and us men aren't doing so well usurping the power of men in helping you create the child
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that a double standard totally totally a double thank you killer cereal definitely right and we're
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all doing the best we can grid one is can i say something one sec i'm just preempting grid one is
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coming in here with his own tts thank you kill of cereal appreciate it grid one motorsports donated
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two hundred dollars thank you grid one i am the patriarchy and you know nothing of my work dot
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feminism has failed you all especially the mouthy wench throw off those chains and return to the
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patriarchy submit and realize our true potential all right thank you grid one appreciate it oh hold
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on now we have now we have nickelodeon coming on thank you grid one i appreciate it man very good
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to see you in the chat i hope you're doing well i hope the flying's been going nickelodeon donated
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two hundred dollars blonde do you actually feel overpowering love for your daughter or do you see
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her as a sexual competitor my guess is the fake tits and earth came after she started to get more
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male attention than you do you want to respond to that i'm trying to clarify what to actually answer
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i mean okay my daughters are six and nine i don't i'm not sure if that's appropriate
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yeah uh gary says maddie can you read it brian needs a gavel to slam that or a powered wig
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take it back the power back that's exactly why haven't you pulled that out you may be you may be
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the judge here but but i would like to finish this exchange if we can when you get a chance all
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right uh i do have the gavel here at the table uh what let me just get one chat in and then
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maddie read this and then we'll have andrew give his take can't even simply understand that your
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small social circles situations don't equate to society or a country as a whole is absolutely
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ignorant obviously there are outliers just as criminals are a small outlier among society
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thank you for your presence yo john green thank you very much appreciate it by the way just i i've
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never done this during the show reminder if any girls want to be on the show and be and be uh what
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what was the term you used degraded if any girls let's say roasted and degraded and judged and
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shamed it's fun instagram.com whatever we can hook you up okay thank you uh go ahead andrew
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it's fun yeah so just uh just to kind of tie this exchange off uh which i've enjoyed by the way i don't
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i don't i never have any ill will uh towards any of the people i have exchanges with i just enjoy the
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exchange itself um i just i just want to clarify that you think that the only value that women bring
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to the table is their vagina no again if that hang on hang on let me finish the question if that's not
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true then what other value are you bringing to the table soul a good cooked meal i mean a clean house
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raising kids figuring out social issues to try to find solutions to things i mean i'm masterminding
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with men are better at all those things okay well then those men don't need to come to me because
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they have it figured out with each other so so for men who can cook their own food which is easy
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cheerleader somebody to give you a blowjob when you're having a bad day i mean come on it's it's
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simple women's work is very incredibly valuable and it yeah in what regard other than your vagina
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what are you bringing to the table i keep on asking you this you're like well cooking and
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cleaning all things men can do for themselves i'm telling you there's a there's a hang on hang on
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i'm almost done cooking cleaning all of this these are all things that men can do for themselves
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i'm almost done i'm almost done if they are things that men can do for themselves well can you name
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something you're uniquely going to bring to the table a man can't do for themselves other than
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your vagina i can have a baby for him he can't have a baby for himself i mean i guess he has an
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artificial womb i guess then if there's an if you want to go that way i just think we have a human
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design that works a certain way go ahead andrew if there's an artificial womb there's no that there's
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nothing then you could be his number one fan lift him up when he's down amen sis i mean if you want
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to go with that that you guys don't need women fine have fun i do have to move things along here i do
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have to move things along unless you i just think it's incredible that ultimately the only thing you
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think you bring to the table is a uterus and the thing is so so i think that my position i think that
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the christian position is actually far better you know it's really funny the christian position
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of what did god make people hear the answer the thing is i trash feminists more than anybody on
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planet earth i mean i'm probably one of the best at it but the thing that's interesting is that i
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believe that women have an actual ontology and in nature and that they have value beyond just that of
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their vagina and giving you the baby i think that they actually have on hey stop ladies stop just
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calm down and listen if you listen right then you'll be able to to craft way better responses
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so the thing is is that there's an ontological nature of men and women there's a nature to them
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and i think that the nature of women in and of itself is valuable not just because they have a i think
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women are valuable without a uterus i think women are valuable even if they're not that's exactly
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what i said i called it even if they're not sleeping can't help yourself you just can't help it even if
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they're not sleeping with tons of because you're saying the same thing but yet if you say it you're
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right and if i say it in my way i'm wrong it's the exact same thing they say but you got to stop
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interrupting you can agree disagree but you got to let him finish he lets you and i promise i'll let you
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finish i promise i'll let you finish but i'm saying if there's an underlying ontology to both
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and i think women without a uterus can still be highly valuable to society and i think that women
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who don't sleep with men can be highly valuable to society i don't see these as the ontology basis
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for the only reason that women are valuable and yet when i ask you what makes you valuable to a man the
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only two things that you can give me are those and so absent those things you're saying that other
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women can't really be that's not what i'm saying i said the feminine essence you whatever however you
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worded it i'm saying femininity in and of itself which women embody whether we're reproducing
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reproducing or we're not when i say i'm saying the the the generated energetic state from that
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part of us the feminine essence our feminine energy i don't think that femininity is tied up with
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promiscuity i never said that's insanity i never said it was then why are you only referencing your
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vagina as being feminine i'm simply saying that is the physical embodiment that represents the
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highest level the highest expression no motherhood of my okay but that's how i became a mother through
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my vagina and i became impregnated by a penis getting inserted into my vagina and then sperm
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coming out and then it mixing with my egg okay well then you can be a mother even if you don't bear
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the child you could still be a mother right you have your feminine essence right you're nurturing
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you're loving you're caring you still be a mother though yeah well then i'm sorry if i misspoke i'm
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sorry if i misspoke i was referring to the feminine essence the feminine what is that
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that is our tendency to nurture our tendency to be able to make sacrifices our tendency to submit to a
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man when it the things that you won't do yeah i submit when the man i i know you've been saying
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the opposite the whole time i submit to the men who earn that position in my life oh submission is
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earned it is no i submit to god first and then as men step up wait wait wait wait stop stop stop stop
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you submit to god correct correct aren't don't you do porn yeah you have an only fans i do sex
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education so wait how do you no no no but you have an only fans right where you post you know god created
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sex right well we're a marriage but it says who god but what's a marriage you're talking about the
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institution guys guys guys please let me have a fucking back and forth here okay so do you think
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god wants you to do only fans yeah it's a ministry i'm actually teaching men
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how to please women i have squirting tutorials i have eating pussy tutorials i have um blowjob
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tutorials and i'm teaching your daughters doing that honestly yeah i would not i will teach you
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would not want your daughters to do that i don't expect to find a good man do you know how hard it
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is to not have proper sex education and then okay but you're gonna try to figure it out that it's okay
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that's disgusting that is shameful i'm sorry that you have shame attached to your sexuality i men love a
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woman who squirts they feel baptized by that it's like a life-changing experience i just want to make
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sure i just want to make sure i got this clear jesus christ came and died for your sins so that you could
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teach women how to suck dick better that's is that right do you know what sin means can you answer my
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question jesus christ didn't need to die for my sins i'm not a sinner oh my gosh you oh so so wait a
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second so um so what did jesus christ die for you need to be healed sin means you turn away from
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yourself you're turning away from the best thing for you that that's what sin means you missed the
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mark you well that's fine it is sin is turning away from the things which are the best for you
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no no sin is turning away from the things that are not your truth would you actually show your parents
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something like that like my parents know what i do there's no way i'm very public you can go into
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my instagram i'm very public i wrote books i dedicated my books to my parents so then tell
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me if you're true my whole life in there i don't have secrets if your truth was to be if your truth
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was to be a serial killer that was your truth no because if you think about it let me finish the
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question if that was your truth to be a serial killer your truth why is it that turning away
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from that nature wouldn't be sinful by that logic can you explain that that's facts you have if you
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have to go to the most extreme example of society that is literally a trauma response you're not
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getting what i'm saying all you're all you're all you're doing is obfuscating answer the question
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say the question again okay yeah so listen to it this time so if it was your truth to be a serial
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killer you would by your logic turning away from that truth would be sinful do you understand that
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no i believe the serial killer example if we must go with that that is now hurting other people
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my truth my sex life is not hurting anybody so now i thought it was about your truth a second
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ago it's not about your truth yeah i'm getting confused at what i didn't know that this was
03:19:12.560
going to be a religious podcast my sexuality god you said you were submitted to god yeah i am my god
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is not the god of the bible it's not the god that you serve but you're using biblical terms
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it doesn't matter what terms i use we can say something else we can call it source energy does that
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work better for you that it's a word you literally do like mental gymnastics you don't even know what's
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your reality because you have no foundation you're just picking and choosing things from everywhere
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and trying to make it i have books you can read my books my foundation no because you're you don't
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even know you're going to have the choke and that is forever moving there is no solid foundation you
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stand for nothing because i'm an ever evolving being our dna is a spiral that's evolving we're always
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gonna be you can grow you can mature but you're going the opposite way i'm not going i was the celibate
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good christian girl i did all this shit that you're doing now i did that when i was 18 to 33 i
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spent 15 years doing this whole good girl but you can do things but were you truly born again did you
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have the holy spirit so fucking devoted and if you would read my book okay let me let me finish if you
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were truly born again you wouldn't be looking at me with those eyes first of all you would have
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the holy spirit in you and you i'm a demon i'm a demon exerciser you would be transitioning and and
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going and moving towards the direction that where it's really that's your perspective
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romans one therefore god also gave them up to vile impurity in the lusts of their hearts to dishonor
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their bodies among themselves who exchanged the truth of god for the lie yeah cool literally thank
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you yo christ is lord thank you okay i'm gonna ask uh i we have so many notes that we have to go
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through but i'm gonna continue going through your notes there's probably gonna be a lot more back and
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forth further from that i i did uh you know do a little bit of a dive into your instagram a little bit
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i didn't catch your stories until yesterday minus underscore two underscore hundred donated two
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hundred dollars red one you rock chat loves you can you do me a favor and punch that blonde next to
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you maybe she will sober up is wayne brady gonna have the choker bitch here get it okay oh wow okay
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order order in the court order in the court i got a gavel i told you i like brian
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got a gavel boys okay all right uh so i was looking at your instagram i saw stories you post
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like 30 stories a day i only tuned in yesterday i the the amount of content you push out is
03:22:19.360
a lot um so you said there was uh you went on a two thousand twelve thousand dollar utah trip was
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that recently it was a thirteen thousand dollar utah trip was that was that yeah it was like in april it
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was april now you said that you you are you divorced or currently going through a divorce
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do you want the whole long story like just an answer to the question divorced from the legal
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marriage the first and then and then i left the non-legal marriage arrangement and so when was this
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utah trip it was in april and you were there to meet donald trump jr i was there to go to what i
03:22:54.160
thought was a networking event with a lot of the leaders of the country but it was a ludicrous concert
03:22:58.480
instead so i and there's donald trump it's okay we need to get into the details it was a mess but
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you couldn't go because there was a car accident but how would you know if you couldn't go that it
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was a ludicrous ludicrous concert okay it was at one of these rich people's houses that's like on
03:23:11.520
this big hill and driving up to the concert i i thought that it was this way your car it was a
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little car accident okay point being is but you never you didn't even go to the event
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i i got driven up by the homeowners where the car crashed down here they knew the party and
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they were like let's get you up to the party okay so you did go to the party but i but i didn't get
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to stay because the police called me back down because of the car situation okay so then i just
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heard that it was ludicrous and i saw it on the social media afterwards i didn't even i saw the
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helicopter come in and fly out i didn't know who it was okay so thirteen thousand dollar utah trip now
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in the instagram story that i saw uh you spent your husband you used your husband no no no it was
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my business card he came and beat me because he somehow not even my husband we never were legally
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married i had left him six months before that it wasn't his money it was not his he was opening up
03:24:11.440
credit cards under my company and racking it up partying is it was it you like it's my escort it
03:24:18.160
wasn't we no it's my escort when i have an escort because we were together i put him on my as the
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vice president of my escort it's just a technicality because we were together so it was completely my
03:24:34.640
business that we set up that i set up for my books when i wrote my books understood so you mentioned the
03:24:40.480
biggest issue actually well we'll start there you said the biggest issue is that we live in the
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patriarchy with the toxic masculinity just so i know that we're talking about the same thing
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could you define for me patriarchy and define for me toxic masculinity i want to make sure we're
03:24:58.160
talking about the same thing go ahead i would say the patriarchy and the toxic part is the valuing
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just one at a time so patriarchy you use patriarchy alone okay and then use toxic masculinity alone okay i
03:25:11.920
I just want to make sure that we're talking about the same thing.
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So the patriarchy to me is the valuing of men over women.
03:25:24.860
I even agree in the churches it's better, and in general,
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it's better for the men to be the ones who are out there speaking to men
03:25:34.540
Okay, well, I'm just saying that's my, you asked what my idea of it was.
03:25:40.100
And then the toxic masculinity are these guys who basically,
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They tell you, I'm fine with this traditional stuff.
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So a woman can't even make an informed decision
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because she's being lied to from the gate on the first date
03:26:12.700
When you say marketing, could you give some examples?
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Yeah, I mean, you're trying to sell yourself to a person.
03:26:25.980
No, but I'm saying, I'm not saying that you can't put on your best face.
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is us lying and pretending like we're catfishing.
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Right, but I would even say that that's a woman being actually masculine.
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It's the masculinity that women are taking on and then being competitive.
03:27:10.100
So, okay, what you do in dating, you don't think that is toxic?
03:27:34.220
But it's super weird that you say that there's no competitive nature, which you have.
03:27:46.680
Aren't you taking on these very masculine roles, which you now are claiming that you...
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So that you understand the reason I asked you to let me finish.
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I don't mind the spirited back and forth exchange.
03:27:58.080
When you're talking in your mic while I'm talking, because of the nature of the call,
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That's why I asked you actually to stop, because I can't actually hear what you're saying.
03:28:08.240
So, isn't it so that you're taking on these same masculine roles, which you right now
03:28:16.620
And that is something that I only recently discovered was a flaw in myself.
03:28:21.820
And that's why I wasn't really getting anywhere in the business world, because I was running
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with this masculine energy, this competition, this...
03:28:34.980
I felt convicted, and that's why I switched back into making my money the way that I do.
03:28:44.160
I switched over to a feminine energy model, which is not...
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Typically, in the man's world, in business, there's a set price, right?
03:29:05.060
So, coaching with me used to cost $2,000 for three months.
03:29:09.200
I take you through this thing, and it was just cut and dry.
03:29:13.540
As long as you were willing to pay the price, you could enter my coaching container, and I would
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What I found is that was not good for me as a woman, because I had all these guys who
03:29:25.900
weren't serious about life coaching and working through issues.
03:29:31.540
They wanted to hop on a Zoom call with me and take my time, as if they were going to be with
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But working in the foot fetish place, I have guys come in all the time, and they want to
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They go to therapy with their wife, and they go to therapy alone, but then they have the
03:29:48.140
same therapist to ask their wife, so they sit with me, because I have no skin in the
03:29:53.200
game, and I have nothing to do with their lives.
03:29:56.940
And they sit there, and they talk to me, and they're almost crying, and they're like, I
03:30:03.900
And that is actually my ministry, for the most part, in my OnlyFans chat.
03:30:11.820
No, I'm telling you, men are not as good at accessing their emotions.
03:30:18.280
Men access their emotions and feel safe in a sexual context when you do it right.
03:30:27.560
No, no, no, but I'm just saying they feel comfortable with you, because they understand
03:30:34.820
Men are much larger than women and stronger than women on average.
03:30:44.160
Obviously, there's outliers of women who are much stronger than men, this type of thing.
03:30:49.920
So they actually have to control their emotions better.
03:30:55.560
They have to control their emotions, because if they become...
03:31:01.380
Because if they succumb to their emotions, they can do a lot of damage, not just to the
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weaker sex, but to the children they're supposed to protect, and also to other men, right?
03:31:15.520
So when you say they're not as emotional, I think that they're perhaps as emotional,
03:31:19.440
but hang on, I think that they control that emotion far better than women do.
03:31:24.780
And what I've seen from you, even, is that you seem to have a hard time controlling your
03:31:43.420
But to your point, Andrew, what a lot of men are accidentally doing is instead of controlling
03:31:51.000
their emotion and then having somebody to talk it through, going to the gym, they're
03:31:58.240
So what you're talking about is actually a feminist viewpoint, right?
03:32:02.620
It's not repression for men, nor is it toxic masculinity for men to control emotion.
03:32:08.780
From a woman's standpoint, when they can't control their emotions, everything's going to
03:32:14.140
But when you see men explode, that's not a good look for men.
03:32:25.520
We're like, what are you going to do about it, right?
03:32:34.880
And the reason they must move towards some form of stoicism is because they're fucking dangerous.
03:32:42.240
If they cannot control their emotions, the thing is, is that we've given a pass to women
03:32:46.240
and tried to give this kind of example that women don't have to control their emotions,
03:32:53.600
Maybe women should also control their fucking emotions a little bit and not make everything
03:32:58.220
about them, everything about me, everything internalized to me, me, me, me, me, me, me,
03:33:03.900
me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, but rather to look at things a little bit
03:33:08.780
And so as we've gone through even your worldview logically, you realize there's a ton of holes
03:33:14.240
There's a ton of holes in the logic that you have.
03:33:17.380
Well, I think, to be honest with you, if, for example, we got to, for whatever reason,
03:33:26.640
Let's say that, let's say that, this panel is an exhibition of the absence of real men.
03:33:32.880
If a real man showed up for these women, they would snap out of the delusion and confusion
03:33:45.320
Everything you espouse is in opposition to this.
03:33:48.460
What I'm telling you is there are actually so few healthy, mature, good men out there.
03:34:02.800
I believe you're a good man, and I believe you're a good husband.
03:34:05.420
But you're in a catch-22 logically, because if the thing is, is that you want that type of
03:34:10.420
man, what you would maybe broadly consider a high-value man from your worldview, the only thing
03:34:17.140
that you can produce for him is your pussy, by your own admission.
03:34:21.720
And so if every other woman you're competing with has the same thing to offer him, why the
03:34:31.400
Because my pussy is a completely different experience.
03:34:38.860
Out of all the hundreds of millions and billions of pussies, you're the best.
03:34:43.540
I'm simply saying, to particular men, I am their exact taste.
03:34:55.680
So I think the whole point is that there's everybody for...
03:35:04.180
There's somebody for everybody with different tastes, different logics, different solutions
03:35:12.280
or problems on how to deal with them, different viewpoints.
03:35:16.200
And it's all about trying to find your match and the person that you're the most compatible
03:35:21.040
with and the person that you actually trust and are willing to work with long term.
03:35:28.400
And that's fine, but by the logic of feminism that you're talking about, it's massive deception.
03:35:38.640
You're saying, feminism is saying that women are so empowered and we've got to get our
03:35:52.780
Yeah, but all toxic masculinity is to you, apparently, is any man who disagrees with you.
03:35:58.440
Any man who you think packages himself in a way that you don't like, you consider that
03:36:10.240
Okay, so when I went to college, I literally took a class where I had to sit down and watch
03:36:22.480
Because before that, I didn't feel that men were toxic.
03:36:26.120
I didn't feel like I was living in a toxic society.
03:36:30.580
Brian, Andrew, I am begging you, with tears in my eyes, please stop the old, irrelevant
03:36:36.800
blonde hag prattle and let the rest of the panel that have dated in this decade speak.
03:36:51.200
And the truth is, Grid1, you would be bitching if it was the other direction and there wasn't
03:37:02.100
So Grid1, while you're right, and the patriarchy prevails, they are engaging in good faith.
03:37:22.100
This panel is an exhibition of the absence of real men.
03:37:30.040
I'm going to move things a little on, at least in our notes, with you.
03:37:33.260
So you've made a bunch of these Instagram videos.
03:37:37.920
In your story yesterday, you talk of extorting men.
03:37:44.500
Yes, so basically all the tactics that are used in sales and marketing these days, the
03:37:51.880
way that that was even developed is because that was originally the feminine gifting.
03:37:57.480
That was how we were designed to make sure we got our needs met from men.
03:38:04.840
If it came down to survival of us and our children, we learned how to be a little manipulative,
03:38:09.680
how to extort somebody to get a loaf of bread to feed our babies or things like that.
03:38:14.780
That's your sinful nature, being just that, like, we have that.
03:38:18.020
I don't, I would just, I wouldn't call it sinful.
03:38:25.280
We get abandoned sometimes or the man dies and we're on our own and we're just left to
03:38:38.720
I'm basically thinking of the concept of innocent as doves, but shrewd as a fake, but innocent
03:38:45.660
And that's, honestly, I, what I can understand is that not everybody's had my experiences.
03:38:51.440
Aside from the justifications for the extortion, can you tell us precisely how you extort men?
03:38:59.060
So I had this boyfriend for six months, wealthy business guy.
03:39:04.260
I didn't, I don't do these things where I have guys take me on dates and all this.
03:39:09.280
If it's a man I vibe with and I enjoy his company, we just, I just go to his house or
03:39:15.480
That's not what you were saying in the beginning at all.
03:39:18.320
You guys took some lines I said and you took it way out of context.
03:39:24.740
You said that you consider yourself a prostitute.
03:39:41.540
Because the word prostitute connotes a woman on the corner who is so desperate, she will
03:39:56.960
Your exact words were, I am just like a prostitute as far as energy goes.
03:40:02.540
Because I love to bring up these things and help people to understand how constrictive
03:40:10.280
If only they could be prostitutes like you describe yourself as.
03:40:21.260
I could have been requiring him to date me to be taking me to nice dinners, to take
03:40:28.620
I could have said, this is the stuff I like to do, blah, blah.
03:40:34.680
You would have done that naturally, to be honest, if you were really feeling with him.
03:40:55.520
It was more of a friendship thing because we had-
03:41:24.360
Raise your hand if sleeping with a man so that he pays your bills, you consider that
03:41:39.620
I am simply saying, even there's tons of wives out here prostituting themselves out
03:41:53.200
They're not even probably sleeping with them, yet the bills are getting paid and they stay
03:42:01.320
Listen to the way you have to qualify this in order to make yourself look better.
03:42:08.660
I have tons of relationships where a woman stays because she has no choice.
03:42:17.180
If a woman is with her man and she loves him and he's taking care of all of her bills
03:42:22.920
and she, in exchange, is staying at home, taking care of his children, and when he gets
03:42:27.160
home, he has a hot meal, kiss on the cheek, and she just adores him.
03:42:42.820
Right now in my life, whether we call it I'm in a dating phase, a non-monogamous phase,
03:42:48.880
or a prostitution phase, until I meet the man who there is that love where it's not tit for tat.
03:42:56.380
It's just I meet your needs because I love you and you meet my needs because you love me.
03:43:03.080
Do you think that a woman who is not a prostitute, who's high virtue, has more of a chance of
03:43:11.160
meeting a man who would fulfill all of those needs that she wanted versus a woman who is
03:43:21.840
I'm just simply telling you, my definition of prostitute is different than yours.
03:43:32.720
It sounds like you're obfuscating and running away from it.
03:43:37.360
Y'all have a different definition of prostitution.
03:43:41.140
There can only be one answer to this because of the law of logic and law of excluded.
03:43:49.300
What I was going to say was they're literally coming from a male's perspective, telling us
03:43:52.920
what men look for, what they like, what they don't like.
03:43:54.920
And then you're saying, well, but I do this and it's fine.
03:43:57.960
If they say they don't like that, you're not going to find a good man.
03:44:07.140
Earlier, you said Brian was perhaps the type of guy.
03:44:13.720
You said that Brian was your type of guy earlier.
03:44:25.220
Obviously, he's not going to pick me for his life.
03:44:33.040
Oh, to be honest, I would hang out with him after because I have appreciated his communication
03:44:48.020
How much would it cost him to hang out with you?
03:44:50.180
It would be free because we already went through the cost exchange.
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Nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine.
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There is no possible way Brian would ever think twice.
03:45:33.260
That you would have no amount of money would make it to where you'd be open to that.
03:45:57.420
Like, so my thing is, is that a lot of guys will make exceptions.
03:46:00.860
They'll be like, well, I wouldn't marry her, but I wouldn't sleep with her.
03:46:04.200
The thing for me, though, is I'm not interested in a one-night stand, so I don't, and I'm not saying this to mean me.
03:46:10.500
I don't know why Andrew's putting me on the spot here.
03:46:21.740
But, yeah, you started this whole conversation saying everything was transactional.
03:46:29.960
The only guys who are paying any sort of rent are men who have had whole relationships with me.
03:46:36.320
I know, but the point is that you started off this whole conversation saying that you only give time to men
03:46:48.080
It's the reason why, for example, I would go, for example, just to get to know you better
03:46:54.260
because I appreciated your humility and correcting your mistakes and your conversation skills.
03:47:01.980
I'm not saying there would be ever any money or I would expect him to pay for my meal.
03:47:09.920
And I wouldn't mind getting to know a little better.
03:47:13.100
So would you give up your OnlyFans for a good man?
03:47:19.700
But what's the difference between that and the best friend?
03:47:26.080
But, like, so you would say no to your OnlyFans if for your man.
03:47:30.700
But then why were you so against the saying no to your best friend?
03:47:34.460
Because we're talking about a job in a way that I make money versus a relationship.
03:47:45.180
But you extort people, so you can't say you value people.
03:47:53.040
I don't know if these are the ones I'm looking.
03:47:58.440
Guys, if you're watching on YouTube, you're watching on Twitch, drop us a follow and a
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Guys, if you got a Twitch account, drop us a little follow in the chat.
03:48:18.500
Guys, it's been 10 minutes since we've had a prime sub.
03:48:21.840
So maybe one of you guys could just like do a little test and make sure like, you know,
03:48:25.840
the, I think the, the woke overlords over at Twitch, they probably like might've tried
03:48:45.240
And then whoever just came in there, you can hide that, Nick.
03:48:48.900
It's almost a combined, almost a combined 15 K.
03:48:56.240
We sure would appreciate it if you would sub over on Twitch, uh, whatever's trying to
03:49:01.560
Um, so if you guys can get over from the crucible audience, give that sub, give that sub over.
03:49:21.900
Uh, and then Nick, we're going to pull up some of her Instagram posts.
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There are so many Instagram stories, but, uh, we'll react to a couple of your Instagram stories.
03:49:45.440
So, before you play it, can you read the description there?
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So, I said, my favorite thing is to be compensated and taken care of for the value my sexy energy brings a person.
03:49:59.620
That way I can take good care of myself and my kids and still stay a very feminine, authentic woman.
03:50:05.180
I am really learning the art of receiving and going with the flow for the sake of my own good.
03:50:10.860
I've spent years in the feminist trap to, of trying to prove my worthiness beyond my beauty.
03:50:17.200
And, at the end of the day, people keep wanting to pay me for pictures and videos of my sexy ass way more than they want to pay me for any of my graduate level content.
03:50:28.720
And, at, and this year, I am surrendering to that, taking the path of least resistance.
03:50:35.080
Resting more, turning into myself, healing my nervous system.
03:50:51.680
I have a little, uh, cash slot, a little hooker in me.
03:50:57.960
But, it's just a primal, obviously, drive to provide for myself and my kids.
03:51:03.360
I just love it when men are generous with me and pay me.
03:51:08.280
And, that doesn't, that doesn't mean that it has to be, like, a man I'm dating is, like, handing me all this money.
03:51:13.260
It could just mean guys compensating me appropriately.
03:51:35.340
I do these little things on purpose because I'm trying to blend multiple different concepts.
03:51:40.060
Because, to me, a lot of the problems in society is this really black and white thinking.
03:51:47.460
I'm trying to blend the idea that, listen, girls.
03:51:53.000
I already got married, had kids, the whole thing.
03:51:57.460
So, you're trying to blend Christianity and being a cash slut?
03:52:03.420
No, but I, I asked you about the, the cross that you're wearing.
03:52:05.980
And, in the video, you say, you're, what, what, something about being a cash slut?
03:52:13.240
Well, she said she had a, Brian, she did say, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna make sure that this
03:52:23.700
So, you're trying to blend Christianity with being a little bit of a hooker.
03:52:34.820
So, you're, because you responded to that because I asked you about the cross you're wearing.
03:52:45.800
Well, let me ask you, uh, let me ask you just a very quick question and then, and then
03:52:49.800
if you don't mind, um, the gal in the back in the center, surprisingly for, for some odd
03:52:55.780
reason, even though she's a Pentecostal, she's been kind of based this evening.
03:52:59.340
So, I gotta, I gotta get her response to this too, but I, I have to ask you this question.
03:53:13.600
No, no, no, to the, to the, uh, to the blonde, uh, has a little bit of hooker in her.
03:53:32.020
I'm not sure that I would understand the way you do.
03:53:40.540
And so, what this is saying is that a proposition is, uh, essentially either true or it's untrue.
03:53:47.420
So, when you say black and white, I, I'm not interested in black and white.
03:53:51.360
From a logician standpoint, they are interested in actually what you would consider black and white,
03:53:56.960
which is either a proposition is true or it's not true.
03:54:00.420
So, I need to ask you specifically, is being a prostitute good or is being a prostitute bad?
03:54:08.880
Not, so the proposition is, is being a prostitute good or is it being bad?
03:54:15.920
And using that second law, the law of excluded middle, where we can't get into the gray area.
03:54:24.220
For me personally, every situation I get into, whether it's prostitution, if we want to call it that, or whatever,
03:54:42.680
Only to me and the way that I do it because that feels.
03:54:48.140
Yes, because it's, it's different for everybody.
03:54:54.800
Did you just say that prostitution feels good to you?
03:55:00.060
Otherwise, I wouldn't do it if it didn't feel good to me.
03:55:09.800
I wouldn't say in my worldview as if it's good for everybody.
03:55:23.900
I just wanted to make sure we got some clarification.
03:55:25.800
Now, going around the table, I just want to ask the same question.
03:55:52.740
The people who raise their hands, are you prostitutes?
03:55:56.800
If it's a consensual thing between two adults, like in Amsterdam, and you want to do that,
03:56:03.080
and you're not hurting anyone else, you're not doing it with underage children or anything
03:56:07.500
like that, and you guys want to make it, then I think that's perfectly okay.
03:56:15.120
That's not what I think is right, that I should do it.
03:56:19.600
And then to the other gal, the other gal who said yes, are you a prostitute?
03:56:38.200
So if prostitution is good, why don't you engage in it?
03:56:48.320
I don't do it because I have chronic health conditions, and because it is not good for me
03:56:55.260
personally to engage with, because I don't need that kind of exchange.
03:57:04.460
You did not have the chronic health conditions, and you knew it would make you a lot of money.
03:57:12.480
I've considered it, just because I do erotic art, and I do a lot of different things.
03:57:25.640
Well, I draw other models, other people, in erotic, but artistic, passionate, and a very...
03:57:39.400
Does that mean they're having sex while you're drawing them?
03:57:45.560
So you have considered having sex while a person draws you.
03:58:09.840
Should we call it sex work as a more broad term?
03:58:18.140
I don't think I'm going to give a pass or we'll just call it sex work as though that's not prostitution.
03:58:29.960
So just to go off of your own point, prostitution is one thing.
03:58:40.480
However, porn, once you bring a camera into the picture, it is perfectly legal to do.
03:58:46.140
So, which is why, like, in general, prostitution, I think, is a good thing because it helps a lot of people psychologically get the release that they cannot get from the majority of people.
03:59:04.340
I'm going to give her a chance to respond to all this, by the way.
03:59:07.700
But I just want to make sure we get this clear.
03:59:09.040
Were it so that you could make a moral distinguishment, so not all laws are moral, right?
03:59:16.920
Can you make a moral delineation between having sex on camera for money versus having sex on the street for money?
03:59:25.160
There's not really a moral delineation there, right?
03:59:27.640
There's not, and I do not think that prostitution should be illegal in any way, just like porn is not illegal.
03:59:37.520
Just because there's not that much distinction, which is why combining it into the entire sex work combination and conversation wouldn't quite fit,
03:59:48.160
because prostitution is different from pornography only because of the law.
03:59:54.000
Yeah, only because of the law, but not morally, right?
04:00:04.060
It's similar morally because porn is also acting, and a lot of people on there are doing it for the entertainment of other people who ask for it versus one-on-one situations.
04:00:16.840
It's entertainment for the purpose of the person asking for it.
04:00:22.960
It's for the therapeutic purposes and for the...
04:00:28.000
Well, because certain people have different kinks, for example.
04:00:34.260
It's a bunch of DJs who want to jerk off to it, right?
04:00:36.460
But the thing is that people's sexuality carries so much shame innately that they can't go...
04:00:46.840
A lot of people feel they can't go and access those parts of themselves in any area of society except maybe with a sex worker or a pornography thing.
04:01:02.260
I love going to strip clubs because we just all know what we're here for.
04:01:06.500
There's no freaking guys lying to me and saying they want to marry me when they just want to sleep with me.
04:01:19.900
Because it's a clearly expressed, honest, this is what you want.
04:01:31.440
Versus, again, many women, we've all had these experiences with the lines with guys.
04:01:40.900
I don't understand why that would be more ethical.
04:01:48.720
Well, he says that he wants to go watch strippers strip and I'm going with him.
04:01:56.620
Why is that somehow more ethical than if he tells you, I don't want to go watch strippers strip with you?
04:02:04.060
I was saying as a human being, when I enter a strip club, especially me being a woman, when I enter a strip club, I feel a lot more safe than if I go, for example, to a concert or some other thing surrounded by guys who think that they can come up to me and tell me whatever line to get whatever they want from me.
04:02:24.920
If I go to a strip club, I know what these men are here for and I'm only here because I'm fine with it.
04:02:31.840
It's a safety because of the transparency and the honesty of everything's just out on the table of why we're all here versus all these deceptive little games.
04:02:45.140
If you're in a strip club, do you think that women who work in strip clubs are more or less likely to be sexually assaulted than like a secretary?
04:02:53.500
They're actually a lot less likely because they actually have the street smarts.
04:02:57.640
Now, I'm not talking about the women who are just so sheltered.
04:03:07.260
You think that prostitutes are less likely to be sexually assaulted than secretaries?
04:03:10.880
I'm saying it's simply, okay, I'll put it to you this way.
04:03:15.760
If you drop a secretary in the middle of the street in Long Beach because her car broke down, girl's not going to have a good time.
04:03:34.600
If a secretary got dropped in Long Beach, statistically, she'd probably be fine.
04:03:39.960
But if a secretary became a stripper, the statistics of her getting S8 dramatically increase.
04:03:48.520
Okay, but you're looking at the wrong variable.
04:03:55.420
She's putting herself in a situation where it's literally just men that do not respect them.
04:04:05.820
Okay, the church, of course, every sector in life has abusers.
04:04:09.080
Well, it's really funny that you bring that up because in public school, you're far more
04:04:12.580
likely to be S8 than if you're inside of a church.
04:04:16.780
I was very abused in the church in my own home.
04:04:19.980
Everywhere I've gone, I felt the most safe in strip clubs.
04:04:25.420
Sex work is only good for the strumpets and the devil.
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Imagine losing your soul, your family, your morals, and your self-worth for someone to pay
04:04:45.580
Among other things, they balance the evolutionary nature of the man.
04:04:54.840
Andrew, there's a little speck on your microphone.
04:05:15.980
Brian, I know I'm in the same room, but I'm nervous to ask.
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I have no idea what these guys are talking about.
04:05:50.640
As a man, I've only ever approached a woman with the intent to date.
04:05:55.260
Yet afterward, I'm the one who gets left behind because I'm so safe.
04:06:06.840
There's a lot of these nice guys that are like that.
04:06:36.700
I want to try to see if we can get Andrew on this.
04:06:49.080
So control click on Andrew and then drag him over to the other side.
04:07:06.620
The reason they slut shame us is because once a woman is fully empowered in her sexuality,
04:07:19.400
She's very selective with who she shares her sexual energy with.
04:07:33.660
I do all of what I do because that's where my pussy wanted to go.
04:07:39.920
So once you figure out, though, ladies, that you can monetize pussy in whatever way you want,
04:08:15.640
Essentially, you're monetizing your feminine essence.
04:08:34.180
Literally, that looked like a different human being
04:08:51.500
I was just out at the pool and I just quickly made this video.
04:08:59.040
When a woman gets to the point where no shame can touch her sexuality, she is free.
04:09:07.620
Ladies, that could just mean that you become a model if you want or whatever.
04:09:12.160
But you're, in a sense, you're owning your body.
04:09:16.660
And you're okay with monetizing that if you want.
04:09:21.900
I'm simply saying it's a very empowered place to be, to know.
04:09:27.560
I mean, I got, you know, bikini people send me...
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Wear these bikinis and we'll send you money and just take the pictures.
04:09:34.840
There's a lot of perks to just being a sexy soul.
04:09:39.420
You're talking about men, monetizing off of men specifically.
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Because you're just, you're feeling your desires and it feels good right now.
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And you, I don't know what happened in your past where it's like you feel like you're not
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You're a slave to having to sell your body to get something in return.
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Can you say that one more time just the way you said it?
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Because I was trying to help you guys have a more liberated perspective, but it wasn't
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I want to hear more of the scope of the prostitution.
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I will tell you the one example of when it really was a true prostitution situation.
04:11:27.360
Can I actually go fuck a guy and just get the money right there?
04:11:32.680
So, I met a man on whatever these sites where you meet the business guys.
04:11:59.760
If things go well, I'm happy to go to his house.
04:12:03.900
If I go to his house, the price is going to be what the price is.
04:12:14.480
So, how much was the price for the carnal knowledge after the dinner?
04:12:38.800
It wasn't desperate because I didn't have to go home with them.
04:12:40.640
I could have just had a nice meal and went my way.
04:12:59.280
I had never been with an older man, like, that close to my dad's age.
04:13:07.700
Well, we don't have to tell you the story here.
04:13:11.720
Well, I do just have a very, very quick follow-up.
04:13:15.560
Point being, he put the money in my purse when I went to leave.
04:13:21.680
I forgot that that's what I was even doing because I had had such a good time.
04:13:43.860
So, do you consider yourself to be a truth teller?
04:13:48.240
Is that, that is a thing which you consider yourself to be?
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In truth, would you recommend that most women follow your lifestyle?
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My daughter would be fine living my lifestyle because I've trained her from the beginning
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Why would you want to teach your daughter to sell her pussy?
04:14:17.500
I'm simply saying I am raising my daughters to feel empowered to make their money in
04:14:29.540
Guess how bullied my daughters get because they're the it girls.
04:14:39.780
I have empowered my daughters to come home, and because they are also little bad bitches,
04:14:47.620
They're not getting eating disorders when the girls are talking about their big asses.
04:14:57.360
I was not being treated well because I was raised by the good mom who we don't do this
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You don't think it's just because you made bad decisions?
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It's because I was literally, we can't go into it.
04:15:13.560
I'm talking about, in general, you've made bad decisions, and now you're telling your daughters
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I'm telling my daughters, you are so fucking valuable.
04:15:37.180
They're going to look at you because you're getting triggered because you know it's true.
04:15:41.300
I am raising empowered women to do whatever they want.
04:15:46.120
You're not going to be shamed for doing whatever they want to do.
04:15:56.300
If you could prescribe to most women to be virtuous or for most women to act in a way that you act
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where everything is transactional, which would you prescribe in truth?
04:16:12.640
I would say, to be honest, if I had advice for blanket to everyone.
04:16:18.240
Now, let me give you the question again so that you understand it.
04:16:22.320
If you could prescribe that most women be virtuous or most women follow a lifestyle like you follow.
04:16:33.400
Virtuous, meaning follows chastity, temperance, all of the different what you might consider
04:16:46.060
Or they could follow your lifestyle of purely transactional-based interactions with men,
04:17:02.340
Until we get to a different place in society where it would be safe for women to fall back into the more traditional way of being.
04:17:10.480
They're just going to be dodging STDs for the rest of their life?
04:17:15.560
They're just going to have abortions every two days.
04:17:17.560
No, they'll never be able to form an actual connection with anyone.
04:17:19.820
Yeah, they're going to be too broken to even form an actual connection with a really good man.
04:17:23.540
You guys, pussy is actually a muscle, so that's actually false.
04:17:40.400
Yeah, I feel like that comment is so real, you're grooming your daughters to be.
04:17:44.480
No, listen, that's not even true of female physiology.
04:17:47.860
That a vagina needs to be worked out by a bunch of penises.
04:18:02.980
Anyway, why do you think that a vagina needs to be worked out with penises?
04:18:09.600
Why do you think that that's part of a female's physiology?
04:18:17.440
She can have her own orgasms that she can cause.
04:18:22.220
She can work out the entire bottom half of her body without ever doing masturbation or anything.
04:18:32.640
Why do you think it requires any sort of masturbation, penetration?
04:18:39.040
The vagina is not going to go bad because you're not masturbating.
04:18:49.300
That would be that female nuns, their vaginas atrophy.
04:19:02.140
All I have to say is you guys obviously don't like sex that much.
04:19:22.640
That is the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life.
04:19:26.980
It says the man who has a penis instead of a vagina.
04:19:38.020
Most doctors, I'm sorry, most doctors who work on women's vaginas are male.
04:19:42.860
And you know that their success rate is much higher than that with females.
04:19:46.620
And they make their money by telling us that we need them to fix something about our vagina
04:19:51.500
because we can't just go figure it out ourselves.
04:19:56.580
They wouldn't have to if every woman was sexually liberated and understood her own body.
04:20:04.160
Like, don't male doctors who are gynecologists fix your vagina?
04:20:16.160
And I actually, my last baby, I delivered her myself in my bathroom alone by myself.
04:20:24.540
That's why it gets annoying to get judged as if I'm just like a comic.
04:20:38.080
I did get an infected, I got bit by a black widow three times in the same spot.
04:20:46.300
And my arm was starting to not do well with that.
04:20:52.420
And the reason I care is because who invented those antibiotics?
04:21:13.660
Do you think we could get your previous, like, your husbands on the show?
04:21:21.700
Like, so you, so they can't, like, so it's a conversation.
04:21:25.240
So they, the last one that beat me, obviously, that's not a safe situation.
04:21:37.660
I don't, honestly, he's still very, he's still very.
04:21:48.160
He would never even, he's not going to come face to face with me until we're in court,
04:21:58.400
He wouldn't feel comfortable with these types of topics.
04:22:00.520
Oh, he, the conservatives love the whatever party.
04:22:03.060
No, I'm just saying he's not comfortable fully with his own sexuality.
04:22:06.500
So these conversations would make him very uncomfortable and he wouldn't want to really
04:22:23.440
I have to say, I do really appreciate my first husband that I had the kids with.
04:22:28.640
But I can understand, and I have told him this many times, it was at least 51% my fault
04:22:34.880
that our relationship didn't work well because I was the educated one.
04:22:45.020
I have, you guys, I know I come across as cocky, but that is genuinely because I have
04:22:50.680
evaluated each, each, like, I will apologize to you guys if after, I'm like, I was so rude.
04:23:07.160
Because I did the thing where, instead of loving him, I don't know.
04:23:11.700
Listen, Brian is very partial if you want the best apology to bows.
04:23:17.340
If you could do a bow for Brian, I don't even want to bow.
04:23:32.140
But, no, you guys, what was so toxic about that?
04:23:46.100
I do, but when it comes to the men who I genuinely value and respect as human beings,
04:23:52.360
I have no agenda other than to get to know them.
04:23:55.600
I didn't have that level of maturity when I was a young, I was in my young 20s.
04:24:02.080
I had to grow into not in a relationship that you're going to call a marriage person.
04:24:12.400
So, how many of those men are still in your life that you value?
04:24:17.240
Oh, I have lots of friends and stuff in my life.
04:24:22.580
I'm talking about, like, romantic relationships.
04:24:31.720
Well, I thought you said she didn't really have romantic relationships.
04:24:37.180
My one friend with husband benefits right now, I have one friend who has husband benefits.
04:24:42.480
And he has husband benefits because he's a great man.
04:25:15.900
You guys, I lived in the whole conservative life until only five years ago.
04:25:20.960
I know that's a lot of days to be getting dick.
04:25:28.680
You don't think that every time you sleep with someone, you kind of lose a part of your
04:25:40.000
The, um, like you're not able to actually bond, pair bond, pair bond with someone because
04:25:46.860
No, that's not true because I don't sleep with people on that level.
04:25:49.700
What about the guy that you said that is so great?
04:26:02.020
Just realistically, there's not a compatibility enough there.
04:26:05.580
He, of course, the man would probably, the man would want to marry me.
04:26:11.380
He wants to, he would want me in that way, but I have the wisdom to know you're not going
04:26:20.480
I have to be the wisdom to say, we'll have a great time together.
04:26:29.580
He's very stunted sexually because he had a 20-year-old.
04:26:34.820
Oh, he's stunted sexually, but he's a great man.
04:26:46.440
Maddie, read these two chats, then we're going to go to the next topic.
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After the patriarchy builds their entire fantasy world, they destroy men's lives and
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We have another one here from US Sapper coming in in just a moment.
04:27:22.600
No, a sapper is a military term for somebody who sabotages walls or defenses.
04:27:32.000
The US Army Engineer regimental motto is essayons.
04:27:40.640
What's the other thing from World War I in France?
04:27:57.080
The French national anthem is the most gangster shit.
04:28:09.380
The translation, roughly translated in Brian speak.
04:28:12.360
It goes something along the lines of, we will fertilize our soil with the blood of our enemies.
04:28:34.500
Why do you think all major societies have had laws restricting the behavior of women?
04:28:45.640
Why do you think all major societies have had laws...
04:28:47.720
So I feel like it's just in our nature to slip.
04:29:24.280
Why do you think there's so many laws in society against women?
04:29:29.840
Why do you think all major societies have had laws restricting the behavior of women?
04:29:44.080
Yeah, I was going to say something, but it's okay.
04:29:47.700
No, I was going to say, maybe just because like, um, that's like their religion.
04:29:58.640
I think mainly just because then women will start thinking like that.
04:30:07.740
Guys are so infatuated with a woman's body that we've taken advantage of what we can
04:30:12.920
do with it, and then they realized it, we realized it.
04:30:22.520
Well, let me just give the reader's digest the answer here.
04:30:26.980
Society also governs men's behavior for a reason.
04:30:30.300
So they tailor in laws that govern to men's behavior because men have an ontology.
04:30:37.520
We recognize that there might be behavior, which is perhaps more violent or more vitriolic
04:30:41.740
or various things like this and temper that in.
04:30:49.380
If you have laws tailored towards men, why wouldn't you have it tailored towards women's
04:30:56.760
So are you talking like the ways in which men and women will...
04:31:00.780
The ways in which aggression will manifest differently between men and women?
04:31:05.820
For example, men will be physically violent and women will...
04:31:09.480
They can be violent, but they'll resort to like reputation destruction, for example.
04:31:16.820
So what happens is because most places, especially those with a religious connotation, don't think
04:31:25.800
They don't think that men and women are interchangeable widgets.
04:31:34.460
So they go, okay, there's things that we see which are very common with women, things which
04:31:38.860
we see which are very common for men, and we tailor laws between men and women for that
04:31:49.580
And why don't we see guys in Speedos and like...
04:31:58.820
Putting their bodies out there like women are, and prostituting themselves on the corner
04:32:24.980
You're saying why is it that you don't see men acting as though they're women?
04:32:36.660
Because we understand a man's nature is different than a woman's nature, it's very easy for
04:32:41.460
women to get sex from basically whoever they want.
04:32:45.100
If you go out with a sign tomorrow and say, come over here and have sex with me, there'll
04:32:48.960
be a never-ending amount of men who will line up.
04:32:52.540
However, if you do the opposite, if a man goes out with a sign, it's not going to be the
04:32:58.220
So what we're looking at is we're looking at the difference between the nature of the
04:33:03.940
But then the problem really comes in as who writes these laws and writes all of the
04:33:12.020
Because the majority of times, women aren't really involved in the creation of all of
04:33:21.060
Because women are emotional and they're going to...
04:33:27.120
Yeah, like women are emotional and we don't always think logically.
04:33:31.720
And so when men make the laws, it's just for boundaries.
04:33:34.560
And I look at it even like from a biblical perspective is like God gave us boundaries.
04:33:38.500
It's like going back to the men who are leaders.
04:34:07.500
The common, the common, wait till your father gets home.
04:34:32.560
The black men are very reverent of the mothers.
04:34:35.360
Listen, there's going to be exceptions to all rules.
04:34:39.920
There could be a household somewhere where it's wait till your mom gets home.
04:34:43.920
But for the most part, it's wait till your dad gets home.
04:34:48.440
Because the father is generally considered the disciplinarian.
04:34:52.060
Because the ontology of men is different than women.
04:34:53.920
And so when you look at it, you look at who's the kid going to be more afraid of?
04:35:08.620
I don't even, but we're not even allowed to spend anymore, are we?
04:35:14.980
Yeah, so I just have a lot of experience with black culture.
04:35:21.160
With black culture, and I have noticed that the average black man coming to me is much
04:35:28.040
more respectful of me as like a single mom, especially because the ones that I've been
04:35:32.620
dealing with, at least, they were always single moms.
04:35:35.660
And so maybe the dad would have been the disciplinarian, but in large part, they weren't even around
04:35:50.140
I'm simply talking about what I've experienced.
04:35:55.840
It's, you know, it's not my space to speak on this topic.
04:36:07.600
Whenever my mom said, I'm going to tell your father, or wait till your father gets home,
04:36:12.200
Because I wasn't afraid of my mom with the belt.
04:36:13.660
I would always act like it hurt just so she would stop.
04:36:16.620
But then when I knew that my dad was coming home, I would literally cry in bed to her,
04:36:20.220
please don't tell dad, don't tell dad, because I knew he was about to discipline me.
04:36:26.320
What she's alluding to, so that you understand, what you're appealing to is the normalcy of X thing.
04:36:33.740
So, you could say, let's assume for a second that 9 out of 10 people have a single mom, right?
04:36:39.960
Then, yeah, sure, 9 out of 10 people might appeal to wait till your mom gets home.
04:36:43.880
But in the common denominators where there's both a mother and a father,
04:36:48.460
almost everybody in those dynamics appeals to wait till dad gets home.
04:36:54.040
But you, I'm also very embarrassed to disappoint my father.
04:37:07.460
Please allow the black woman to smack her upside the head.
04:37:16.660
So, I know I look white, but I honestly realize...
04:37:19.520
You're a street person, so you're basically insinuating all black people came to me.
04:37:25.460
But in this demographic where I happen to live...
04:37:37.780
Right, so I'm just saying, though, I didn't identify with the white culture.
04:37:41.080
I identified with the Hispanic and the black cultures because that was the socioeconomic status that I came from.
04:37:54.860
No, I know, and I know, and I'm not making a blanket statement.
04:38:13.220
It's a little nicer now because we had housing developments come in, but it was pretty ghetto,
04:38:20.540
I mean, I was almost getting kidnapped instead of going to school.
04:38:41.420
I got everything I ever wanted from my parents.
04:38:44.180
I'll do it in private chat, just because I feel like this is...
04:38:47.240
You gotta go Yucaipa from the frickin' early 90s.
04:38:49.540
But the fact that you even related the streets with knowing black culture, like, what's that about?
04:38:55.300
Listen to the hip-hop lyrics, you guys, and that is street culture.
04:38:59.280
So, listen to Megan LaSalle and listen to Cardi B, the way that these women are talking.
04:39:24.280
You gotta incorporate San Bernardino, because that's where I was rolling.
04:39:34.800
The racial makeup was 85% white, 0.9% African American, 1% Native American, 1.2% Asian.
04:39:51.060
I know, but what I'm simply saying is I didn't identify with that group.
04:39:54.920
I had to go identify with the other group, like one, two black people that you saw.
04:40:03.220
I was going to San Bernardino and going into clubs, and I was getting into clubs, because
04:40:23.640
Before we get into the ratings, I would like to say that the one in the red is a perfect
04:40:28.820
I hope she finds love soon and won't have to deal with all the nonsense in the dating
04:40:52.400
Would the question be easier to answer if we were counting how many pee-pees you can
04:41:14.640
Dating, prostitution, tax evasion, child abuse, spiritually barren, and now racism.
04:41:21.400
Notified the Demi Monday to CPS, Jesse Jackson.
04:41:37.060
Okay, so let's do the rating one to ten thing really quick.
04:41:42.720
Unfortunately, Stifler, when we cut the previous stream, we lost him.
04:41:47.560
What do you rate your looks on a scale of one to ten?
04:41:57.180
It depends if I'm wearing a wig or not, but I'm a...
04:42:03.100
So, you're eight without the wig, ten with the wig?
04:42:23.560
Because it is very human hair, and if you're a girl, hair that's attached to your head poofs up,
04:42:34.860
Well, wouldn't you be more naturally beautiful that way?
04:42:42.680
We wake up in the morning, and what do we think we are?
04:43:04.860
Well, I mean, if the comparison here is all these eights, then I'm going to give myself an 11.
04:43:15.880
The most unbelievably delusional shit that I've ever heard.
04:43:19.800
First of all, there's not even a woman here who's an eight.
04:43:45.560
In that video, she didn't even look nearly like what she looks like in studio right now.
04:43:52.640
In what world do you live in where you think you're eights?
04:43:57.220
I have this conversation with my friends all the time.
04:44:03.720
But personally, I'm going to lean more towards the ten side because I want...
04:44:10.620
No, like, I'm saying eight because if I'm a three, then where's my confidence at?
04:44:20.380
So, in my opinion, Scarlett Johansson in her prime is an eight.
04:44:26.420
If we go around the table again from Scarlett Johansson in her prime as being an eight,
04:44:39.140
Yeah, so what would you be if Scarlett Johansson in her prime is an eight?
04:44:47.840
But here in this room, if we're going to do this here, I would say eight.
04:44:53.520
I mean, this is an example of toxic masculinity.
04:45:05.140
Objective standard for things which are clearly objective and you're competing for.
04:45:09.280
If you weren't competing for it, then why is it that you would answer to the scale in the first place?
04:45:25.640
I'll even concede that it could be a male standard of beauty.
04:45:27.720
But I think we all answered what we thought of ourselves.
04:45:29.780
So if it's a male standard of beauty and Scarlett Johansson's an eight, can you tell me what that makes you?
04:45:33.620
Well, I'm going best off of what my boyfriend tells me.
04:45:40.360
If Scarlett Johansson was an eight in her prime, what are you?
04:45:45.400
So you look like Scarlett Johansson in her prime.
04:45:56.900
We all have our moments of rolling out of bed and we all have a glam up look.
04:46:00.520
So I just want to make sure that if we were to put you and Scarlett Johansson in her prime in front of every man inside of the world that you think that they would consider you and Scarlett Johansson on par with each other.
04:46:15.620
I do because different men have different flavors.
04:46:18.120
So maybe half of them would like her better and half of them would like me better.
04:46:20.640
I don't see that, too, but the reality is if we have two flowers and some of them don't look at my boobs whatsoever and their eyes go straight down to my feet.
04:46:30.740
But if we're looking at two flowers and one flower has dents in it, it has leaves removed.
04:46:44.720
But if you're looking at a rose that is just like in its prime, we're going to be like, oh, I'm going to choose this one to give to my mom because the reality is.
04:46:53.740
Me and Hugo Jackson in his prime, we're exactly the same.
04:47:00.420
If he's a 10 as a man, I'm also a 10 as a man then.
04:47:10.740
Love-looking men on planet Earth, I'm on par with him because I really feel like I should be.
04:47:15.560
So is your wife, what is your wife on a scale of 1 to 10?
04:47:25.020
I'm pretty sure you think that your wife is the most beautiful woman in the world.
04:47:34.820
So like, for instance, let us assume for a second that we were to rewind 20 years.
04:47:39.520
And I were to go 20 years ago when my wife was in her 20s instead.
04:47:44.300
And you were to say, can I have the same woman just in the 20-year-old body versus the 40-some-year-old body?
04:48:01.400
I would say it's not problematic, but it would probably hurt your wife's feelings, but it's reality.
04:48:08.500
Not only would it not hurt her feelings, but why do you think she keeps her ass in shape?
04:48:13.000
Because she wants to look the best that she possibly can for her age.
04:48:15.500
Right, but she's going to age regardless, though, because.
04:48:26.660
So, but, but, okay, but, so you're saying that age is going to change the number that
04:48:33.620
I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from.
04:48:35.360
Yeah, I mean, well, of course, I think that beauty standards are at least reasonably objective.
04:48:41.340
And I think that my wife would be the first one to tell you that she knows that that's
04:48:44.980
And so the thing is, is that while it may be true that she thinks I'm better looking than
04:48:49.820
she is, or I think she's better looking than I am, it doesn't mean that I think that
04:48:53.980
she's the same or equal in beauty standards to Scarlett Johansson in her prime.
04:48:59.440
Yeah, but if we're doing comparisons, that's a completely different conversation.
04:49:06.220
If we're doing comparisons with other, like, female celebrities, like Angelina Jolie, that's
04:49:35.660
I think that because I don't have like fake lips, I, well, the only thing that's fake on
04:49:52.980
So now let me ask you this, since you're going off of kind of this objective standard, I think
04:49:57.300
that you're trying to move towards something which is objective.
04:49:59.640
Is there any woman in this room who's prettier than you?
04:50:09.280
And now let me ask, let me ask back to the blonde.
04:50:13.720
I do believe she has a, more of an exotic beauty that I think is more attractive.
04:50:38.320
But I thought it was just our own personal, how we think of her.
04:50:43.380
I see what you're doing, but it doesn't really work.
04:50:45.040
If you compare me to Megan Good, obviously Megan Good is better than me.
04:50:52.420
She thinks she's the prettiest woman in the room.
04:50:54.880
And yet all of you rate yourself the same way that she rates herself.
04:50:59.160
Aren't all of you essentially saying that you believe that you're on par with her?
04:51:07.800
We were just looking at from, I was looking at it myself compared to the average woman
04:51:24.900
I would not date myself because I'm not a lesbian.
04:51:30.660
Okay, so now let's try just a quick social experiment.
04:51:38.640
We know that this gal, I'm sorry, I don't remember your name in the yellow top.
04:51:46.600
Okay, so since I'm just going to call you Kay because that's a pretty long name.
04:51:50.480
Okay, so since Kay says she's the prettiest girl in the room, will anybody raise their
04:52:09.160
And can I say that I'm a 10 or 11 or 12 or 100?
04:52:22.860
We can have one man stand in the room and think that she's prettier.
04:52:29.100
But then we have another man can be like, no, I'm prettier.
04:52:48.040
I just, I feel like I'm a prettier Latina vibe, but that's just, I don't know.
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Objectively, what are the things that you think make you prettier than Kay?
04:53:01.200
I mean, I'm going based off what I like about myself.
04:53:05.500
You know, that dude has a more, he maybe has a more muscular body or maybe has better facial
04:53:14.760
So what are the things, objectively, that make you prettier than Kay?
04:53:24.260
I would say my boobs, but no, that's kind of like superficial.
04:53:43.060
If you objectively believe that there's a standard that most men, hang on, that most men would
04:53:48.540
adhere to, not every man, just most, then what are those objective things that make you
04:53:55.780
So if we're talking about like biologically, isn't it like the whole symmetrical thing,
04:54:01.720
I think that that would be a good objective, like starting point.
04:54:24.140
I mean, she is more fit than me, but I don't know.
04:54:28.240
I just think that it's also a part of it that I have to, I naturally want to, I guess,
04:54:35.440
be delusional and tell myself I am prettier and not in like a degrading way, but it's
04:54:48.460
I mean, again, but at the end of the day, we can have.
04:54:57.000
This is like the only thing where I'm like, this is kind of like the only thing where
04:55:00.340
I'm like, there might be like some, my truth, because at the end of the day, there's going
04:55:07.180
Like there's going to be someone that really thinks she's.
04:55:13.260
If you had most men, I'm not saying that if you didn't have two men, they wouldn't
04:55:23.360
So we're just looking for, you know, let's say we took 51% of all men and we were able
04:55:30.640
to pull them and we put the two of you side by side.
04:55:34.180
And just most of them thought that you were prettier.
04:55:42.000
I just told you, like, I guess my, my hair, my smile, I guess my, my eyes.
04:55:49.520
I'm just thinking of things that my boyfriend has told me or like compliments me.
04:55:54.700
Your overall figure, you know, you're out there.
04:56:05.900
That's literally, oh, and my lips are big, but they're natural.
04:56:09.060
See, now that's like, I think that those are some good responses, right?
04:56:12.000
Here are the actual things that I think that make me objectively where most men would look
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I think that that's how men would make the judgment across the board.
04:56:29.680
Wait, you're saying that what I said wasn't reasonable?
04:56:33.240
Because you were saying things like, um, you were kind of adding these other values,
04:56:41.740
I'm not, I didn't, I didn't say that my confidence is what makes me prettier.
04:56:45.580
What I'm saying is I'm naturally thinking I am prettier because it helps with my confidence
04:56:53.220
But what would the objective standard for why most of those men would think you were prettier?
04:56:57.900
My long hair, my smile, my eyes and my nails, my fashion.
04:57:04.440
But again, I could still look at her and be like, dude, she's just as bomb.
04:57:09.840
Listen, listen, I'm not saying you couldn't look at her and say she's a knockout or whatever.
04:57:13.680
That's not really what the question is implying.
04:57:16.440
So then over to Red, Red, can I ask you, what are these things that if you took the large
04:57:23.420
swath of men and they had you and they had Kay in the same room and they were just asked
04:57:28.200
the question to objectively evaluate the beauty standard of which they prefer, what are the
04:57:33.980
things about you they think they would prefer over Kay?
04:57:37.280
Well, it would depend on their beauty standards, first of all.
04:57:41.820
We're just saying that most of them somehow prefer you over Kay.
04:57:56.180
I can change my clothes and wear a trash bag and I look good in that and I can wear red.
04:58:03.940
So we have a room with 500 men and 400 of them, hang on, and 400 of those men, when they
04:58:13.140
look at you next to Kay, they go, I prefer her.
04:58:19.140
Not, they don't care about your personality because they don't know anything.
04:58:25.920
What are the things about you physically that they prefer?
04:58:35.200
I have a thin waist, a pretty little belly button ring.
04:58:40.940
I have nice lips and big brown eyes and I'm Sicilian.
04:58:48.600
And I have a little butt that I work hard on at the gym for, but I don't look like her,
04:59:02.420
This is why we consider the question, when most of the people answer it, most of the gals
04:59:10.720
Because when I get to the heart of it, I realize, wait a second, they don't really fucking
04:59:17.380
And what happens is they have kind of group thing where you don't want to offend the girl
04:59:23.000
But objective, hang on, hang on, hang on, let me finish.
04:59:25.140
But objectively, when I start actually parsing it out and I go, but if men did prefer you,
04:59:31.400
Versus why they prefer you and are you the prettiest girl in the room?
04:59:34.540
I hear wildly different answers, which tells me you're not really delusional.
04:59:39.200
You do know what your standard appeal is, but you're fucking lying about it because you
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When one guy can walk in the room and say, I'm hideous.
04:59:53.340
It's like you could love peaches, but there's always going to be one guy that doesn't like
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But let's assume for a second that we drug a meth head in who had no teeth, pockmarks all
05:00:07.020
Do you think you're prettier than her objectively?
05:00:15.840
So there has to be some objective standard between meth head, crack head, hump on her
05:00:22.200
And what we're looking for is what those things are between you and all the other women comparing
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herself to no teeth, hunchback, pockmark, fucking crack head, right?
05:00:33.340
All these women, you're looking for biological health markers and good genetics.
05:00:41.500
So it's symmetry, it's facial symmetry, it's clarity in the eyes, it's clear skin, it's
05:00:45.240
for a woman, it's a particular waist to hip ratio, which is 0.7.
05:00:50.920
So if you're looking at all those things objectively, then why do you all have similar
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answers, even though you look nothing the fuck alike?
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And I think because we are looking at it from the relational perspective, not like we're
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walking across the stage and just getting a number rating.
05:01:14.400
We're thinking to ourselves, the men that are in our lives that are coming and speaking
05:01:19.380
to us, for example, I hear all day, every day, you're a 10, you're a 12, how do I get
05:01:32.300
I think you're the most beautiful woman in the same sentence as saying you are, even
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And so, that's the thing of why we can't really even go off of that stuff.
05:01:54.840
Ah, well, it seems like when I press you guys...
05:01:58.480
Suddenly, your standards drastically change and you're like, I do objectively have these
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I have these other attractive qualities I think men would like.
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But when asked in a general average, you guys go, well, we're all about the same.
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I just don't think we like to be competitive with each other.
05:02:57.860
I always have a mentor and I always have coaches in my life.
05:03:01.660
I'm a savant, so I have high-functioning autism.
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Hint, some of my oddness and my outside-of-the-box thinking.
05:03:20.600
Like psychotropics or antidepressants or anything like that?
05:03:25.660
So a sativa gummy once a day is my typical thing.
05:03:44.820
I don't think there's really much traditional about me.
05:03:54.180
Well, I'm speaking of more how we were created to be.
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Don't play the video yet, Nick, but we do have another video.
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So your path to heaven involves you letting hell run through your body without resistance while
05:04:25.420
giving that weary body a voice to describe how it feels and what it's upset about.
05:04:30.520
We have been taught to do different things in order to flow with and celebrate the more...
05:04:38.060
So you say your path to heaven involves you letting hell run through your body.
05:04:42.920
Meaning your traumatic, your hard emotions and those triggers that are triggering your
05:04:49.780
Your path to your best life, in my opinion, is through allowing those traumas, the emotional
05:04:57.480
experience of the traumas to go through your body and to exit.
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Most of us resist because we're so afraid of actually facing the anguish and facing the
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And so we hold it in our body and it gets stuck there.
05:05:18.240
Your path to heaven involves letting hell run through your body.
05:05:20.900
So, I mean, are you saying like when you say hell, is that like your behaviors?
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Your path to Christ involves letting Satan run through your body.
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No, I would say your path to your best life, your path to your ability to consciously manifest
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the life that you would love to live is by allowing all of your traumas and everything
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We're not going to play the video, but I guess you're like twerking in the video.
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So I am showing an example of how you move traumatic energy through your body.
05:06:14.520
Women have a lot of rigidity around here because we have a lot of sexual traumas and we have
05:06:20.400
a lot of shame and everything attached to these parts of our bodies.
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So like the African cultures and the Hawaiian culture with the belly dancing, those women
05:06:29.380
are much more healthy emotionally, sexually, their pelvic floor is in a lot better shape
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because they bring these nants, twerk and all of this into their day-to-day life.
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And it's like their prayer, it's like their meditation, it's their, it's their, it's the
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way that we let all of the atrocities of life run through us instead of getting all trapped
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right here and we have a tummy ache and we're...
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I would say dancing and moving is generally in your body.
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I think stiff, stiff order, like order is good for society.
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Just being orderly, just stiff, chest out, heart dick.
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This is just like one of those no filter filters, no makeup.
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I literally found the way to change the societal structure,
05:08:07.460
So what all the spiritual gurus, the scientists,
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to ascend to the highest possible potential for themselves.
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They're trying to create that in their industries
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And what I have done is I have been formulating
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the social structures and the changes that we need to make
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as a society over the next couple hundred years.
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But I know how to get us all to ascend kind of accidentally.
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I was a triple D, but I lost 12 pounds, so now I'm a double D.
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No, if you click it, you can see that I'm pushing my ass out.
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Well, I don't know what's on that next page, so Nick would have to.
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So you wrote in the dancing one, you said it turns out shaking ass is the final stage of healing.
05:11:14.380
You said meme drop while I process the rage finally coming out of my body towards the atrocities of white man in the name of God.
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I don't remember which one it was from, but you do.
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I'm trying to think what the first picture would have been.
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While I process the rage finally coming out of my body towards the atrocities of white man in the name of God.
05:11:46.100
So I'm a little confused by the white man component.
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I'm speaking to white supremacy, essentially, and the whole slavery thing and all of that.
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Why is there a photo of you, and forgive me if I'm incorrect, and this is not you, but I think it is, with jizz all over your face, and you say that moment you realize you're not mentally ill, but just in another toxic relationship?
05:12:14.220
Yeah, so you have man's jizz all over your face, and you say that moment you realize you're not mentally ill, but in another toxic relationship.
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Wouldn't that mean that you were trying to seek toxic relationships?
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Because you look rather happy and satisfied in this photo, I must admit.
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Well, the sex was good doesn't mean the relationship was healthy.
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So you only realized it after he jizzed all over your face?
05:12:44.460
Yeah, unfortunately, some of these guys are real sneaky.
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I didn't know how bad it was going to go, you know, in that stage.
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He ran every fucking game there was, and I got it.
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Going for all the, but I thought you were spiritually enlightened.
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All these toxic men who just isn't all over your face?
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You only realize after you have cum, they're cum all over your face.
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Do you guys think that I'm just sleeping with all these random guys?
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That was the one that you weren't actually married to, right?
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So I'll just even assume that that's a, that that's a marriage.
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When he was jizzing on your face and you were taking pictures, was he toxic?
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Obviously the man was who he was the whole time, but I wasn't aware.
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Why did you post a picture saying he was toxic if you weren't aware?
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We made that content when we were together and I didn't know his true colors yet.
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I already had that content from probably a year before.
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Then when I left the man, I was trying to work through my process of not sinking into
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this doom and gloom and that's what I, my artistic process.
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Look back at the, it would have a date stamp on it.
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Was it before or after you found out he was toxic?
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I was already, I already left him by the time I posted that.
05:14:54.180
Like on my, on my OnlyFans, we had stuff like that, but it wouldn't have had that caption.
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It would, and it actually, that photo was taken after a video that we made together.
05:15:04.520
And then we did a cum shot on the face and we took photos of it.
05:15:08.900
And it was then on your back after you had made your OnlyFans content with this man's sperm
05:15:15.320
all over your face that you realized he's toxic.
05:15:20.480
Yeah, but then why did you say in the photo that that was the moment you realized he was toxic?
05:15:34.540
That was my way of turning a really difficult situation into some sort of a artistic expression.
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You made it up because you, you just, you just wanted to put it out there, get some clicks
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That was not actually the moment you realized he was toxic.
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And when I'm like feeling sad, I could like ask you a question.
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You could just tell me the bullying and honest truth and I can just laugh.
05:16:10.540
Like, cause like you say everything so honestly and so articulately and like, it's so honest
05:16:17.460
and like raw and real, but it's so funny at the same time.
05:16:29.240
That was not the exact moment that I realized how toxic was.
05:16:32.360
That was the exact moment I realized we just made some super awesome content.
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That was the moment that I realized I was in a toxic relationship.
05:16:45.360
It was just showing a picture of something that had happened in the past.
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So I was killing like five birds with one stone.
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I was bringing in a sexy piece of clickbait to make money.
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Yes, that was when I realized I was in a toxic relationship.
05:17:22.800
And then it was like a few months later that the guy beat me and I was like, oh shit.
05:17:28.440
I did have you and me before the show, or well not before the show.
05:17:37.520
Not something I've really, well I've maybe encountered somewhat similar to this.
05:17:42.100
But so I had, and you don't mind if we get meta.
05:17:48.260
Like a conversation about the conversation, kind of?
05:17:52.360
So prior to the show, what we do with anybody who requests to be on the show, who sends
05:18:01.740
And I sent you a list of 10 questions asking age, location, occupation, relationship status,
05:18:07.500
if you wanted to bring a friend, any dating stories, any dating topics you'd want to speak
05:18:12.560
on, anything you disagree on, if you can make it to Santa Barbara, and your available dates
05:18:29.240
You did freak out on me a little bit in the DMs.
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And I just wanted to, I don't know if, so I wanted to pull, I wanted to pull them up
05:18:44.640
and perhaps you can read them just so I can better understand the tone.
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Cause maybe, maybe I'm being charitable here, but there was a interesting tone to, to it.
05:18:55.600
So maybe in your own words, it might come off differently.
05:19:01.060
Or what is your, well, we'll just pull it up, Nick, if you can pull it up for us.
05:19:06.520
Uh, so Nick, why don't you, can you put us in the left corner?
05:19:10.400
Uh, could you, could you read that, read these for us?
05:19:13.640
So I'm sorry, I'm very high functioning autistic.
05:19:15.920
So sometimes my brain gets on my tangents and I can't really focus on anything else.
05:19:20.580
Let me see if I can get it done right now while I have a minute.
05:19:28.040
Like, why can't you just schedule me to come shoot this shit with you?
05:19:32.880
You obviously know I'm legit and have tons of things to talk about no matter how you want to lead the conversation.
05:19:40.260
I feel like that is why you are not leveling up.
05:19:43.880
You are being too legalistic about things and you need to learn how to read vibration over words and rules of the manifested or visual reality.
05:19:52.200
To be honest with you, okay, I was on a savant mission.
05:19:57.920
To be honest with you, it's annoying to me you would make a woman like me go down a list and answer certain questions.
05:20:03.960
I'm above needing to answer your certain questions.
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Just book me on your fucking show and let's go.
05:20:09.440
I'm really only looking to work with or give energy to people who are totally in alignment with me.
05:20:15.920
And if that includes you, then you are not going to waste my time making me answer some little stupid baby bitch list of questions that is made for other people who are clueless.
05:20:27.900
You would be able to read my vibration and know that I'm exempt from all this shit.
05:20:34.080
And if you can't do that, then I don't really want on your show.
05:21:02.440
I totally understand that it sounded very harsh.
05:21:17.760
I think most of you here, every single, well, maybe, I'm not sure.
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You all filled it out without any quarrel or issue.
05:21:51.800
Well, the wall of text that you sent me, you could have just been a good sport and answered
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the same time it took you to send that wall of text.
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I guess because I am not, again, I am not a typically presented woman.
05:22:14.000
Because you think you're better than any of us.
05:22:16.560
No, I think I'm very different and it's not for everybody.
05:22:21.560
And just so you know, I knew nothing about this podcast.
05:22:29.220
How can you say that remark then if you don't even know who he is?
05:22:59.120
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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I was on mentally and my brain gets very annoyed.
05:23:17.840
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
05:23:25.840
Why do you have pictures of the kids in the same Instagram that you have come on your face?
05:23:32.480
Okay, why do you have pictures of your offspring in the same Instagram that you have these lewd pictures?
05:23:39.440
Because I don't believe that human sexuality is anything to...
05:23:47.120
I celebrate sex and all the different forms and expressions of it, and that's not anything I personally believe is to...
05:23:55.480
Now, it's not like my kids are in the room when I'm getting cum shot on or anything like that.
05:24:02.960
Would you want to see pictures of your kids like that?
05:24:05.320
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
05:24:23.240
In the same Instagram as that, doesn't that seem horrifically off-putting?
05:24:31.120
I don't ascribe to the same moral code that you do.
05:24:35.760
I don't believe that there is anything wrong with however an adult person wants to express themselves sexually.
05:24:45.140
And I would even go as far as to say adult doesn't even mean 18.
05:25:03.080
I don't think that there's anything wrong with it.
05:25:11.100
I want to go back to the meta-conversation we were having about the messages you sent.
05:25:20.440
You mentioned that very early on in the episode, you wanted to bring down the egos of men.
05:25:25.960
I mean, don't you think the message you sent me is a bit egotistical?
05:25:34.520
To be honest with you, I am working on some massive humanitarian work right now that,
05:25:44.600
It's just because of the way that my brain works.
05:25:47.820
When I get on a mission, you could say, that's all I really care about.
05:25:56.180
Um, you're, uh, is this, is this called, is this what's called obfuscating?
05:26:00.960
Hold on, let me make sure I'm using the word right.
05:26:02.820
But I want to know why you thought that his podcast...
05:26:18.380
I just assumed, I just assumed they're not going to call me on the show, to be honest.
05:26:22.020
I just thought, I'm annoyed right now, I'm busy doing this other work, I got a million
05:26:26.780
things going on, why are they having me answer these questions?
05:26:29.880
I'm a sex and relationship coach, it's a dating show, do they want me on or not?
05:26:33.040
Aside from the podcast, do you expect everyone in the world to yield to you for every single
05:26:36.700
No, I'm just simply saying, if I'm not for you, I'm not for you.
05:26:44.140
I feel, I feel very tired of being a people pleaser, and I just don't want to do it anymore.
05:26:52.160
I don't need everybody to like me, I don't need everybody to have me on their show.
05:26:55.960
If you want to say it's narcissism, I'm okay with that.
05:27:14.800
I was just like, I've maybe encountered, and we've had probably thousands, we've had
05:27:19.340
thousands, we've had over a thousand people on the show, we've had probably multiple thousands
05:27:23.440
of people send us DMs, obviously not everybody ends up scheduling, we don't always opt to
05:27:28.560
schedule somebody, but I think I've had maybe one or two other women be divas over the whole,
05:27:40.400
It's just because, again, I was on a mission mentally, and it was like, have me on or don't
05:27:51.560
But to me, that wasn't a lot of energy because it was my truth.
05:27:58.080
Well, you said you're from San Bernardino, that's LA County, isn't it?
05:28:04.380
Did you ever have any ambitions to be an actress?
05:28:23.000
Have you ever applied for a job that required a cover letter or a resume or a CV?
05:28:38.140
But I didn't see it as a gig until you guys actually scheduled me.
05:28:47.780
But you're confused as to why we would ask these questions.
05:28:57.340
That was me popping off because I felt that answering a cookie cutter list of questions
05:29:08.820
So no matter how I answer these, that's not the full truth.
05:29:12.700
I guess if you just want me to bullshit for the sake of bullshitting...
05:29:16.180
No, but it was basic bio info, age, location, occupation, relationship status.
05:29:21.980
If you want to bring a friend, dating stories, dating topics, anything you disagree on, if
05:29:26.040
you can make it to Santa Barbara and your available dates, I mean, those last two kind
05:29:33.660
And then as we went down in communication, I gave you my...
05:29:41.340
You told me I need to learn how to read vibration.
05:29:54.640
You have to understand how many dicks I talk to a day.
05:30:04.480
I deal with booking this, booking that, flake this, flake that.
05:30:07.560
You just think you're over here and everything else is just...
05:30:09.500
Well, because you guys have no idea what I actually have to deal with.
05:30:17.100
I only reached out because a friend said you should go on this podcast.
05:30:25.080
Once you looked it up, did you realize that he had...
05:30:27.640
There's a difference between not taking it serious and being disrespectful, though.
05:30:39.920
What about just integrity and morals and just being nice?
05:30:55.220
And that's the problem with people that don't have a foundation.
05:30:58.120
Would you rather me pretend like I was a cookie cutter little sweet thing and then get on here and be this?
05:31:14.800
I just have one last question for you on this particular topic.
05:31:19.680
So are you on any sort, and because you believe that truth is a value, can you just answer this truthfully?
05:31:27.700
Are you on any sort of psychiatric drugs at all?
05:31:52.240
Now, Nick, I don't know if you still have the, is it still like all set up or?
05:31:58.160
You also said that, to be honest with you, it's annoying to me.
05:32:02.520
You would make a woman like me go down the list and answer certain questions.
05:32:08.140
I'm above needing to answer your certain questions.
05:32:13.520
Just book me on your fucking show and let's go.
05:32:16.740
So, now, some of the people who, too, didn't lead to this.
05:32:22.000
Well, it's interesting because you very harshly criticized me for.
05:32:52.000
I might have said something rude to her out of frustration.
05:33:02.000
Now, you got on your high horse and your ivory tower, and you got very, you wanted to virtue
05:33:11.620
signal, and you almost, you threatened to leave.
05:33:14.480
You threatened to, I'm going to, if this is how you're going to talk to women, I'm going
05:33:23.920
And you attempted to pretty much get all the women to leave the show.
05:33:27.940
Admittedly, I did say something rude to her, which I apologize to you.
05:33:34.380
But it's interesting to me that your conduct between us in the DMs.
05:33:43.240
It's interesting to me that it's okay for you to behave in that way.
05:33:53.000
The way in which you were speaking to me was, I would argue, about on par in the way I spoke
05:34:04.380
The only thing I have to say is that, again, I deal with so many fake things coming at
05:34:10.820
me that I didn't know that you were even a human.
05:34:17.480
But it's not, if it was Nick who was messaging you, I would, I would be sitting here and saying
05:34:23.600
It's not about, if it was Madison, it does not matter.
05:34:26.400
It would have been an agent, a representative of the whatever podcast.
05:34:30.260
And it is me who handles all the guest booking.
05:34:32.580
But I don't, it's not me, like, you didn't know who you were messaging it to.
05:34:37.800
It doesn't matter if it was me or Maddie or Nick or if we were paying $10.
05:34:41.400
You understand, I deal with people who are not a human representation.
05:34:47.940
But I find it interesting that you were virtue signaling at the beginning of the show.
05:34:51.440
And it's because I could feel her as a human person.
05:34:59.900
Yes, because I deal so much in the virtual world and I'm so bullshitted constantly that
05:35:10.280
You turned to her and said, you're being abused.
05:35:13.180
I was just so embarrassed that I ruined his podcast.
05:35:18.440
But I also truly understand that I just took five minutes out of his podcast.
05:35:32.060
But again, again, I had no idea who I was speaking to.
05:35:40.880
I was calculatingly being my most aggressive self because I get taken advantage of a lot.
05:35:48.020
How is it taking advantage of you to ask 10 questions?
05:35:53.400
How is it taking advantage of you to ask you 10 biographical questions?
05:35:58.260
Maybe me making a lot of questions made up for it.
05:36:02.560
Because I just didn't feel like me answering those simple little questions were going to
05:36:08.340
paint the accurate picture of who you were having on the show.
05:36:12.040
But do you think there's a reason we ask those questions?
05:36:26.480
You felt like by answering those questions, it would have misrepresented what it was that
05:36:33.420
But the thing is, is that could it perhaps be Cope on your behalf?
05:36:42.080
Could it perhaps be Cope on your behalf that you were terrified of answering those questions
05:36:46.500
because you know to a reasonable standard that a person interpreting them may totally get
05:36:52.960
the wrong idea of you, even though they're basic questions?
05:36:58.400
And isn't that really Cope on you and not on the podcast?
05:37:00.220
No, because listen, if you go down the list, it's very easy.
05:37:08.240
Because again, I wanted to really, and I'm not justifying.
05:37:12.500
I did do it very, I could have done it in a more polite way.
05:37:15.940
I could have done it in a more, but you guys, every time.
05:37:18.800
You were terrified that the answers would perhaps be too revealing, right?
05:37:23.420
I was terrified that I would come to a situation where this isn't really my thing.
05:37:35.660
Listen, I'm not going to accuse her of gaslighting.
05:37:40.760
From my perspective, what it appears to be, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but if
05:37:48.000
you're giving basic answers to the question and kind of the Cope, or what I would consider
05:37:53.440
Cope is, you know, I'm afraid that you're going to get the wrong picture of me.
05:38:00.740
There could be a way in which questions are presented where we could get the wrong interpretation
05:38:11.840
But doesn't it kind of ratify Brian's position here that in DMs, you were ultimately very,
05:38:21.080
Almost like you were trying to obfuscate from what those questions meant.
05:38:23.740
I was, because I live in a world of sharks, and I just, sometimes I'm in a mood, I'm dealing
05:38:28.980
with freaking law cases and all these things, and judge me however you want to judge me,
05:38:37.200
I have to press charges in the whole situation.
05:38:39.000
Yeah, but why would that have anything to do with a podcast?
05:38:42.440
I'm just saying as a human being, some days I get a little rattled, and I'm going to,
05:38:47.020
I'm going to extend that same courtesy to me when I was a little sharp with her.
05:38:53.140
Instead, you wanted to put your foot down, be the language police.
05:39:14.480
It's all buzzwords just to get out of taking responsibility.
05:39:21.420
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's a good way to say it.
05:39:22.980
When you say to Brian, when you say to Brian, answering your question doesn't make me feel
05:39:31.500
When he said, fuck, when he had the comment to her, that's when I didn't feel emotionally
05:39:37.440
And I, you know, as you described it, I was virtue signaling, you said.
05:39:41.640
And it's because it triggered me to be like, oh, shit, this is what I was afraid of.
05:39:49.120
That's why I tried to give them the most bitch, ridiculous part of myself so I didn't even
05:39:56.600
You mean at the beginning of the podcast when I pointed out there could be something which
05:40:00.540
was potentially detrimental to everything that this man has worked for?
05:40:04.400
And so he was frustrated in the moment, and maybe he said something out of turn or untowards.
05:40:12.800
But if I remember correctly, and I was in the back room listening, you know, I do do that.
05:40:18.700
The gal who this was directed to said, no big deal.
05:40:22.800
Who are you to come in and advocate on her behalf and say, wait, she's way in the wrong,
05:40:33.000
Who are you to come in and say and make this arbitrary judgment that a person who says
05:40:38.500
something in frustration in regards to their entirety of their livelihood, which could be
05:40:43.820
at stake, that they're in the wrong when the person they said it to was forgiving instantly.
05:40:50.820
I do appreciate her sticking out for me, but I do 100% understand where he was coming from.
05:41:01.120
But in the heat of the moment, she said, hang on.
05:41:06.440
You, on the other hand, made a big deal out of it.
05:41:08.280
Because I'm the person that all these women come to for help after they need your help.
05:41:15.620
It's just where I'm at in life and the work that I do.
05:41:19.860
Everybody comes and brings me all of these traumas that they never had restitution for.
05:41:25.520
And it's things like that that she might say is okay.
05:41:35.420
I'm simply saying she's mature and self-aware and just saying, let's move on.
05:41:39.460
And as you saw, as you saw, we were all able to kind of work through it.
05:41:54.380
You said behind the scenes that you wanted revenge.
05:41:58.960
That you wanted to get some getsy backsies and that Brian didn't know who he was fucking with.
05:42:03.900
That's what you actually said behind the scenes.
05:42:12.320
I mean, you literally stood there and we were back.
05:42:18.140
You said he deserved some revenge, some restitution, and that you were going to get him.
05:42:27.700
You have to understand, I have been abused a lot.
05:42:41.120
Going back to what Andrew said, though, what specifically, if you guys can recall, what did she say?
05:42:45.400
Well, here, let Andrew help, because I'll tell you.
05:42:48.920
Because me, being in the background, sometimes I hit record, and I have all of this recorded.
05:42:57.780
She said that you, she ain't going to put up with none of this shit from these motherfuckers.
05:43:03.000
And that they better know their fucking place, and that she's going to get revenge if necessary.
05:43:13.620
Okay, you have to understand from my perspective.
05:43:21.460
I'm going off of my experience in life with men.
05:43:41.500
There's a lot of masculine energy, though, that you're actually talking about not wanting.
05:43:45.900
No, I take on daddy energy if I feel like there's some vulnerable group here that isn't...
05:43:54.260
We're self-aware that it's a whole podcast, that if that nip flip was there...
05:43:59.920
I apologize for having empathy towards women and making sure that we all knew...
05:44:15.380
Can you just speak to the fact that before you even knew the circumstance of the situation,
05:44:19.860
you actually demanded that the girls get up and leave with you in order to get revenge?
05:44:28.560
Can you just tell Brian that that's what you actually did?
05:44:31.080
Look at them shaking their head, because I'm right.
05:44:33.240
You requested all of them get up and leave that podcast and leave him high and dry to get revenge.
05:44:39.680
So why don't you get up and get the fuck out of this podcast, since you're the one who demanded that this happen to him?
05:44:47.200
Why should we not instead make sure that that happens to you?
05:44:51.580
I mean, you definitely can, and you would be in the right.
05:44:59.500
I wasn't sure what I was getting myself into, and I just never know how things are going to go.
05:45:06.020
You're a mom dog, even with just random questions.
05:45:33.340
She was trying to convince the girls who were there at the table to get up and collectively walk out of the show in order to get revenge against you because you had a fire-at-the-mouth moment very quickly because everything you had ever worked for perhaps could be in jeopardy.
05:45:50.640
She actually tried to convince the entire panel to get up and collectively walk out with her.
05:46:01.240
We all like respectfully like tried to calm her down and be like, okay, let's just stay quiet, figure this shit out.
05:46:14.200
Once I get that shirt, I need a minute to calm down.
05:46:26.920
And the way that you apologized, it felt very genuine.
05:46:29.640
And to be honest, it really endeared me to you.
05:46:45.400
This could be, this could sort of be like a, and I don't know if this is using the Lord's name and thing, but a come to God moment here.
05:46:57.340
Like me and Andrew, we constantly get labeled as, as toxic and abrasive.
05:47:11.460
Now we've, Andrew took shots at some of the women saying they don't look like Scarlett Johansson.
05:47:26.240
Do you frequently find yourself in conflict with people?
05:47:29.520
No, to be honest, because I try to kind of weed out my relationships and.
05:47:35.080
You're telling me your life isn't full of constant interpersonal conflict.
05:47:45.780
No, I think I have a pretty peaceful life, to be honest.
05:47:57.360
I, I, you know, you know the whole thing of like.
05:48:00.060
I mean, I'm not trying to be friends with everybody.
05:48:04.420
Like, if you think everybody else is the asshole, everybody you meet's a jerk or.
05:48:22.900
Because a friend said you should contact this podcast.
05:48:43.760
You're just a big bottle of fucking excuses, man.
05:49:44.580
But you have to understand, I'm only the problem in this context.
05:49:48.280
You drop me with my people, and I'm not the problem.
05:49:54.140
You did mention at the beginning that you tend to domineer the conversation.
05:50:05.320
And it's because I'm just, this isn't my typical vibe, you know?
05:50:17.020
I don't think Amy of us, like, agrees with that.
05:50:19.240
You can't just say, hey, I was wrong, or hey, yeah, I need to work on that, or hey, yeah,
05:50:30.420
I thought that perhaps it would help him understand it wasn't personal.
05:50:41.140
Because he was maybe taking it like I've heard somebody.
05:50:43.640
It cheers me out because you really believe everything you're saying.
05:51:08.040
Like where like, you're not really letting other people speak.
05:51:12.100
And when they bring up subject, you try to explain them over what they're trying to say.
05:51:23.820
You got some serious tech difficulties going on over there, Brian.
05:53:20.200
So it was a hardwired Ethernet or whatever it's called.
05:53:28.760
There was, there was, I think that even if you switched over, it would be fine.
05:53:38.460
There's no YouTube strikes, anything like that.
05:53:41.320
Uh, I think it just happened to be YouTube outage.
05:54:01.780
I'm making, um, I'm not intending to make justifications.
05:54:06.460
But that's how it's coming across and all that really matters is how I'm affecting people.
05:54:17.280
It was not, I did not know who I was sending those messages to.
05:54:20.600
Well, what I would be curious, if, if you are being genuine, I will be curious to see your social media activity in the coming hours and days after the show.
05:54:32.360
So, because while you're in person here saying this to me now, uh, you might, you know, uh, use.
05:54:50.080
But after you leave, you might feel like, well, it wasn't very nice how they confronted me.
05:54:55.540
No, because you guys real talk to me and I appreciate that.
05:55:01.220
But I feel like your feelings can change because that happens a lot.
05:55:07.580
No, but my feelings can change in the sense that we all process things after the fact.
05:55:15.680
Those watching us, can you tell Andrew that we'll get it fixed in just a sec?
05:55:19.840
I'm not going to go back and be upset with you.
05:55:27.520
I need to go back there again and figure out the tech stuff.
05:55:37.120
But I am pretty confident that, you know, you're going to, you're, I feel like you're going to be a little two-faced with this.
05:55:46.160
You're apologizing to me now, but you're going to go on some witch hunt diatribe on your social media.
05:55:55.020
I'm sorry that I made you feel unsafe that I would do that.
05:55:57.780
Well, let's, let's actually see if you walk the walk.
05:56:06.400
Do you have, I can shake on it and I can give you my word.
05:56:10.740
Shake on, well, we don't need to shake, but shake on what?
05:56:13.300
Shake on the fact that I trust you as a man and I overall have had a good experience and I'm glad that we all talked about everything because there's nothing toxic to leave with.
05:56:50.840
Well, I'll have you come in in just a sec, but I, because me and Andrew have encountered this before where we've had people come on the show and then they proceed to for, for days or even weeks, they will, while we were otherwise fairly, you know, even though we perhaps had arguments with them or we disagreed with them,
05:57:09.040
sometimes even gets, stop, stop, sometimes it even gets heated.
05:57:13.440
They will then go on to basically do what we described as what toxic femininity is, which is reputation destruction.
05:57:20.800
Andrew, I'm sure you know precisely who I'm talking about.
05:57:27.380
So, I'll just be curious to see in the coming days and weeks your conduct on your own social media.
05:57:39.440
Oh my God, I went on the misogynistic podcast and he was about to slap me across the face.
05:57:48.440
You genuinely handled that situation very well.
05:57:59.280
I tried to convince the entire panel to get up and leave with you, even though they had flown in from all over from different places.
05:58:05.600
And have come in here to get exposure for their various social media.
05:58:10.660
You tried to lead a coup d'etat in order to be what?
05:58:18.200
No, I honestly, to be honest with you, I mean, you don't, maybe won't believe me, but I just wanted to feel safe.
05:58:26.900
Kay, Kay, Kay, how come you don't believe a fucking word of it, Kay?
05:58:39.320
So before we had some internet connection, you're go off queen.
05:58:48.860
Okay, so I just think that she's just a big ball of fucking excuses.
05:58:57.600
If anyone calls you out on anything, you try to act like, oh, I'm so sorry.
05:59:03.140
This is just you, and then this is what you put out into your relationships, I'm sure.
05:59:06.900
Because I know it wasn't just the guy's fault, 100%.
05:59:12.100
But I think that you must have done something that led up to that even happening.
05:59:15.260
Just the way that I'm watching and listening to everything that you're saying and how you react to other people, how you message people you don't know, I think you're the problem 100%.
05:59:22.620
And I think you really do need to go to therapy, not you just being a therapist and helping other people.
05:59:27.460
I think you need to help yourself before you even think to help others, to be quite honest with you.
05:59:33.520
Now you see that vibrational frequency, which intertwined with your vibrational frequency, destroyed it.
05:59:41.660
When those two vibrational frequencies get together, you have the base frequency.
05:59:45.840
The other based frequency hits that base frequency, and it just destroys it.
05:59:51.980
That's how the vibration actually works, just so you know.
05:59:55.880
That's why that wide glass splits, just to tie it all together, right?
06:00:02.180
I guess we won't belabor the point forever, but I do think it did deserve a little bit of belaboring because it was frustrating to kind of hear that there was an attempted coup d'etat on the background, and then you just kind of pretended that, eh, we'll just move past it.
06:00:19.580
But I think the other girls, not so stupid, kind of picked up on it a bit.
06:00:24.780
I mean, we immediately, we're like, okay, so she's a troll.
06:00:27.760
Like, we're like, we really thought you were a troll.
06:00:29.840
We thought, like, you were being that, like, you were doing that on purpose.
06:00:34.640
But then it comes to find out that's just who you are.
06:00:36.120
It was a particular trigger for me that was a rough one, and I overreacted, and I'm sorry.
06:00:42.040
But asking basic questions was a trigger, too, so just everything's a trigger.
06:00:46.480
And, yeah, to be honest, which is why I was, again, overly aggressive in my communication because I just assumed I wouldn't even get, okay.
06:01:02.260
I know, but hers is, come on, hers is on a different level.
06:01:04.840
We're able to have a conversation and not act like this.
06:01:07.940
Like, girl to girl, like, looking at the whole messages, it doesn't make you feel like, dang, like, take a step back.
06:01:14.360
Like, maybe I need to, like, reevaluate, like, how I perceive myself and opportunities and really realize, like, you're not where you think you are.
06:01:27.160
If I would have come to this show and thought this is about coming together and loving each other and just seeing through differences, I would have carried a different vibe.
06:01:39.800
I was under the impression we were just here to bring up taboo topics and just be entertaining.
06:01:48.160
I thought it was just about, I didn't know that it was about us bonding and, like, loving each other.
06:01:52.260
So you're conditional on how you treat people depending if it's going to, it's going to do something for you.
06:01:58.000
Well, that was very well established in the beginning.
06:02:02.720
I maybe should have researched it more what I was even getting into.
06:02:08.880
Minus underscore six underscore nine donated $69.
06:02:16.000
I think that would be a good conclusion for this stream.
06:02:25.620
Wait, can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table, please?
06:02:59.040
can somebody send Brian in a champagne pop to get him through the rest of his feet?
06:03:06.980
I'm so, I'm a bit frustrated, kind of differently here.
06:03:15.240
She was, oh my, guys, this was like, I don't even know,
06:03:23.300
and the internet cut off right when you just started.
06:03:38.740
I basically said, this is why a lot of men cheat is because of shit like this.
06:03:43.040
For God's sake, imagine coming home to this every fucking day.
06:03:46.500
Like, I could understand, no, I'm not going to say that,
06:03:56.220
I wish this 38-year-old cackling hen was divorced from O.J. Simpson.
06:04:01.500
Every time I hear her speak, all I hear is blah, blah, blah.
06:04:24.320
I thought you had some pretty good takes this panel, I must admit.
06:04:39.760
You have to understand that this is what we like to call the Irish crutch.
06:04:50.140
No, it's what we like to call the Irish crutch.
06:04:52.940
Whereas other people's IQs go down when they drink, the Irishman's IQ goes up.
06:05:00.860
So really, I'm on what's called an Irish performance enhancing drug.
06:05:14.760
I'm just simply saying my energy just needs to match the energy of the other person so
06:05:19.140
that our vibrations vibrate together so that my feminine essence resonates enough.
06:05:34.420
I don't know if we're going to do a roast section.
06:05:52.740
Blondie, I hope you can take a joke better than those two blondes that walked into a bar.
06:06:00.540
I don't think it's going to be one of those things.
06:06:02.020
Wait, Maddie, you'll have to come back and say that.
06:06:13.500
I lost IQ points from the first 10 minutes and not sure I can continue through this entire podcast.
06:06:21.300
Whoa, dude, I haven't seen you in a while, I think.
06:06:40.460
I mean, look, we've had a little bit of arguments, but I think it was an entertaining show.
06:06:54.100
You know, maybe we'll do a little light question, a little light question here.
06:07:00.160
So what do you guys think about the Israel-Palestine conflict?
06:07:05.340
But hey, boys, make sure you throw in those roasts.
06:07:11.380
We're not going to get into the Israel-Palestine.
06:07:18.160
We already have enough memes of you out there with the walkie-talkie.
06:07:32.300
There's actually still a lot of notes for the both of you, and there's some notes for you, Alex.
06:07:41.000
Here's the issue is we are running out of time a little bit.
06:07:46.400
Because if you're down to come back on another time, we could hit –
06:08:16.540
Yeah, you were good for the show, but goddamn, you got some stuff to work on.
06:08:21.980
The same exact panel, but in, like, a couple months.
06:08:38.360
We'll all be in our 60s, and we'll be like, remember that time.
06:08:53.800
Did you like it that you should have put it in?
06:08:55.560
Her Instagram is in the description if you guys want to slide in the DMs.
06:09:46.360
But when you were pretending to study therapy on Wiki, did you come across the phrase generational
06:10:05.800
Well, the Twitch stream is back, but it just started a totally separate new stream.
06:10:13.260
Speaking of which, though, Nick, if you could pull it up.
06:10:47.220
The blonde dumbass is the type of therapist that can make a sane person go insane.
06:10:52.940
All I'm feeling from her is bad vibrations and having photos of your kids and blank on your face is vile.
06:11:06.400
Sorry, I did not mean to press any of those buttons.
06:11:25.380
I was trying to think of the light dating question.
06:11:41.480
You will get a man one day and have many children.
06:11:48.560
Disgusting example of a human being and insufferable.
06:12:04.360
I demanded short of the Omnivans ministry moment.
06:12:18.500
Oh, we have a dating app review that we're doing for Kay over here.
06:12:31.760
Let's make sure we're on the same page about our views.
06:12:53.740
Is to start a family with a man who wants to lead it.
06:13:23.440
I mean, considering a lot of the shit that we've seen on this show, that really isn't
06:13:32.900
Now, maybe the standard of it's not that bad, probably, maybe that's a bad standard, but
06:13:51.420
Blonde, learn about accountability and that there are consequences for your actions and
06:13:58.800
This could either be a growing experience or she just digs her heels in and is like,
06:14:16.280
She understands that it's a misogynistic incel pod.
06:14:20.060
No, I just understand that it's a group collaborative conversation.
06:14:24.000
I honestly thought I was just coming by myself.
06:14:40.320
By the way, I feel like the roast section can also be like a, if you want to leave a nice
06:14:50.100
We're like roast us and everyone's like, I love you guys.
06:15:03.760
I know you're high energy and things only make sense a certain way, but seems you absorb
06:15:19.640
Just make sure that you're not so open-minded that your brain falls out of your head.
06:15:26.340
I don't want to feel this one fall out of my mouth.
06:15:38.920
Desiree, you literally hurt my brain tonight with your filthy strumpet bleep.
06:15:43.500
Ryan, please do not invite her back to this great podcast.
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This is one of the worst strumpets I've ever seen.
06:15:47.980
I'm down to have, like, I bring people back who I disagree with, so if you want, we can
06:16:03.300
We have received multiple reports about Blondie and have tracked her location.
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Agents will be deployed to her home to save her children from degeneracy and corrupt upbringing.
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Do not, do not, under any circumstances do that, and here's why.
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Throughout future conversations, we can possibly bring her around to our way of thinking.
06:16:26.640
If her children were taken into foster care, things like that, something insane like that,
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understand the amount of abuse that they would potentially face is 10 times higher than if
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Never, ever do that, and that is not what this show is about.
06:16:46.400
This show is about the free exchange of ideas when it comes to dating, when it comes to relationships.
06:16:52.120
I don't want to hear fucking nothing about that.
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Blonde false preacher dot, you genuinely disgust me.
06:17:04.720
I truly hope CPS is called because you are admitting to essentially G-rooming her kids,
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Disavow, and also just want to make it clear, that previous message, that's not actually CPS.
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I found out last week my wife is cheating on me and looking at an expensive divorce.
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The truth is that most of this is fucking nonsense,
06:18:22.060
Like, for example, for example, wait, just hold on.
06:18:25.020
For example, people will send in a message pretending to be the internal revenue service,
06:18:29.880
and they'll joke and say, oh, Brian, or if there's an OF girl, they'll say, oh, you know,
06:18:41.260
It was recent that somebody sent in an IRS one, right, Nick?
06:18:52.860
Blonde, your kids might not make it to high school B.C. of your shitty decisions.
06:18:57.840
When the funeral comes up, remember this podcast.
06:19:01.940
It will be all your fault, and maybe you'll post a pic with Nut after.
06:19:15.900
The whole point of it, the whole point of it is to try to jar you out of where it is
06:19:37.220
If I thought that you were the fucking scumbag of the universe, I would tell you, and I
06:19:40.820
do think you're kind of a scumbag, but that aside, nobody's going to do this to you.
06:19:49.780
I'm not emotional about thinking that that's going to happen.
06:19:54.980
I get emotional because it's very easy for people to pick out certain elements of a
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personality out of context and then judge a person based on that.
06:20:09.340
And I can take it all day long with the, I'm a slut and I'm useless, but when it comes
06:20:16.120
to the kids, because I'm not saying I'm a perfect mother, but I do a pretty damn good
06:20:23.160
job with my kids considering the cards that were dealt, you could say.
06:20:36.060
I understand where it is your angst is coming from.
06:20:41.340
There's nothing I love more in this world than my own children, but just try to understand
06:20:51.160
We don't need the tears because they're totally unwarranted.
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If it were anything to the contrary, I would just tell you.
06:21:06.460
Just to lighten the mood, this is something we haven't done in a very long time.
06:21:14.400
I don't think we've, it's been maybe a year since we've played the Patrice O'Neill clip.
06:21:26.600
We're just going to pause them for a few minutes.
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No, it's going to probably be in the Dropbox folder.
06:21:35.240
So those of you sending TTS in, it's temporarily paused, just letting you guys know.
06:21:43.020
While he pulls the clip up, do you understand that there's a distinction between we're playing around,
06:21:51.360
we're messing around, we're kidding around, and what may manifest itself in reality?
06:21:57.620
These people are not actually going to do any of this.
06:22:08.260
It's just it hits the deepest fears in me of not doing my best for my kids.
06:22:15.500
Do you realize that a public persona like myself gets hit with this nonstop every single day?
06:22:26.440
So that's why I'm using it as a growth opportunity to expand my capacity to be able to take criticisms.
06:22:33.180
And at the end of the day, I do sleep okay at night because I know I am personally doing the best I can.
06:23:03.000
I can't flash a nip because for God's sakes, you'll lose your life apparently.
06:23:17.120
He's one of the nicest men I've ever come across in my life.
06:23:24.740
He does everything he can possibly do to take care of the people who are around him.
06:23:36.800
Remember we had the whole tragedy in the beginning?
06:23:39.680
I was trying to lighten the mood and I was making a joke saying I would flash everybody
06:23:45.560
to lighten the mood, but we can't do that because it'll ruin the world.
06:23:50.300
Now you see why they're all wanting to call CPS.
06:23:58.000
But I'm just saying, Brian has some of the best showrunners who are out there.
06:24:03.940
And then on top of that, don't take it so seriously.
06:24:13.800
I'm going to wait to play the clip until she's back.
06:24:18.360
While we do that, though, I will allow a couple of these chats to come in.
06:24:25.020
The other ones will come through, but I'm just going to do a little bit of moderation
06:24:45.840
As soon as she comes back to the table, we're going to play the – there she is.
06:25:05.600
Let's just show this really quick, and then we're going to hide it.
06:25:25.060
Okay, ladies, if you didn't have a vagina – like, say it was a terrible train accident, right,
06:25:33.500
and the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away, or you're going to die.
06:25:42.100
How would you keep your man past – you get a two-month guilty, I can't leave the bitch
06:25:49.080
right away because she just lost the pussy in a train accident.
06:26:00.840
How would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina?
06:26:20.920
Because Blondie's position was the ultimate strength of women, including her, was that
06:26:28.160
she had the V that the men wanted because of the P, right?
06:26:34.960
So his question kind of alludes to my own, which is what value do you bring to the table
06:26:45.320
So now you have the golden opportunity to tell us.
06:26:51.220
I mean, I guess if I didn't have that hole, then it is what it is.
06:26:55.980
But I believe I would still maintain the same, my same commitment to him to bring him the
06:27:03.880
And for us to bond and be close and for me to be his confidant, for me to be his whatever
06:27:10.160
he needs me to be and for me to receive his penetration in whatever way we could work out as a couple.
06:27:17.620
Well, it seems as though you're still saying that the ultimate value that you bring to the
06:27:25.340
Well, let's get the whole, all the girls to answer this question.
06:27:34.800
Did you watch the clip that we just, into the mic?
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Well, let them interpret it however they want to interpret it.
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You get a three month, can't leave the bitch, just lost pussy in a train accident.
06:28:09.440
I get a cleaning lady, so she's cleaning that house.
06:28:13.720
I get a chef, so she's making dinner, because I can't get up, because I don't got no pussy.
06:28:19.120
And then, I am wearing lingerie, even though I still got no pussy.
06:28:25.380
And I'm going to just lay in that bed, and I can't open my legs, so I can't really do that.
06:28:34.380
We eat dinner together, we'll watch shows together.
06:28:38.300
I will wear my butt plug for you during the day, and then, if it's been a really long
06:28:50.240
Well, I don't really rely on sex that much, so I would just kind of do the same thing
06:29:00.400
I normally do, and that, just spend time, and have engaging conversations, and watch
06:29:07.520
movies, paint, interact, grow businesses, talk about the future, and just keep doing what
06:29:16.780
The sex is never, or specifically the pussy, is never the issue here.
06:29:22.180
Similar to what she said, I feel like if he loves you enough, he would still stay with
06:29:30.860
But what would you, so the question is, what would you do to keep your man?
06:29:33.920
I said the similar thing as her, like, basically the same thing, so just spend quality time.
06:30:00.300
I've been seeing him all over my TikTok, and I send it to Nick every time.
06:30:09.360
He tries to swallow food whole, and he'll like...
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He's not funny, but it's more like we're laughing at him.
06:30:31.280
There's like compilations on TikTok, and it's like, all the times we've almost lost Bevo.
06:30:40.860
Did Bevo ever apologize for his malicious and salacious lies against the whatever podcast?
06:30:47.460
In fact, after I confronted him about it, he blocked me on TikTok.
06:31:00.680
The reason he blocked me on TikTok is from my whatever account.
06:31:03.320
I looked at one of his videos, and people were commenting, saying something along the lines of...
06:31:11.400
So there were people leaving comments saying, well, hold on.
06:31:14.220
Your girlfriend in a live, like a week before she showed up on the show, on a live stream,
06:31:20.280
said on her own live stream that they were in an open relationship.
06:31:26.540
In a live stream, before she even came on, was talking about how she was in an open relationship.
06:31:50.180
So that means that she's doing content with multiple men, which would...
06:31:55.880
I think that necessarily means that she's in an open relationship and other men...
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You're just frozen on screen, but we can hear you.
06:32:21.060
We can react to a video of Bebo with your face.
06:32:42.360
In fact, his future ex was explaining that they are in an actual open relationship and
06:32:51.660
So she did a live before she came on the show saying that she, at least that's what the
06:32:56.720
comments on TikTok, that's what made him block me because I was trying to get some details.
06:33:00.760
She said that they were in an open relationship in a live stream.
06:33:03.260
And then if you go to her OnlyFans, it says she does BBG, BBBG content, if I recall correctly,
06:33:11.760
the numbers of the Bs, which means that she's sleeping with other men for scenes on her OnlyFans.
06:33:26.820
So can I get from the panel, if your significant other, the person who you claimed you cared
06:33:36.760
about the most in the world, in this case, you're a male and this was a female, and you
06:33:43.240
allowed other men to have sex with this female who you claimed you valued more than anything
06:33:53.800
Can I get a raise of hands for who would consider him a cuck?
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Basically everybody, except, of course, the contrarian on the panel.
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But essentially, everybody would consider him a cuck.
06:34:17.340
Oh, I would support him in his business and what he's doing.
06:34:28.740
And I would still find ways to sexually pleasure him.
06:34:52.780
I was just assuming it was just that part, honestly.
06:34:56.760
So it's basically just what we can still offer.
06:35:00.060
The question is, what do you do to keep your man?
06:35:10.060
Like, when he comes home from a long day of work,
06:35:14.340
even though you can't make him feel good in other ways.
06:35:17.780
You can still help him out with whatever his business is.
06:35:21.820
You have to be able to deal with a man that's like that.
06:35:24.100
So you want to be able to still be there for him in that way.
06:35:26.800
You still want to be able to do your motherly duties,
06:36:14.240
Now, I've been getting pussy-bean the whole show, right?
06:36:16.980
But I give women the opportunity to say, I'm going to make myself worth more...
06:36:20.780
But, you just classify yourself as a series of hoes, but...
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I'm supposed to treat you special, but you're just a bunch of hoes for yourself.
06:36:35.360
No one said learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories,
06:36:40.760
get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in.
06:36:50.520
Andrew, do you have a quick thing on this, and then I need to let the TTS come through.
06:36:53.360
So, Kay, I do have to pick on you and the Pentecostal for a second.
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You were so based five seconds ago as you were destroying the evil in the room,
06:37:09.020
but what are you bringing to the table other than sex?
06:37:17.480
Oh, I was just going to say, like, you want to give your man peace.
06:37:20.100
Like, when he comes home, you don't want to, he doesn't want to come home to a dragon.
06:37:24.100
You want to come home to a nice woman that's going to, like, give you massages if you had a stressful day.
06:37:33.500
You'll go to the gym with him, make his protein shake.
06:37:53.420
I mean, if he says, hey, I don't want you to wear that, and this is the reason why, or even if he doesn't give a reason, you just got to trust him.
06:38:01.080
What if he says, I don't want you to hang out with your best friend, Kay?
06:38:05.100
What if he says, I don't want you to hang out with your best friend, Kay?
06:38:12.240
You're going to show it in a multitude of ways.
06:38:18.660
What if he says, I don't want you to hang out with the best friend?
06:38:29.880
So Corey doesn't exist if your man says Corey doesn't exist, right?
06:38:43.540
Did you, was there someone else that you had a question for?
06:38:53.320
What are you bringing more than speaking in tongues to him while he's asleep?
06:39:04.340
We're of two different face, but you've been pretty based on the whole panel too.
06:39:16.080
My boyfriend is a big business owner, so a lot of stress.
06:39:19.620
So I make sure that I'm there for him, spend quality time with him, be submissive.
06:39:27.180
And I still would find, as a wife, I would still find ways to please him.
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I think that is part of a biblical wife as well.
06:39:37.560
Trusting him and just like, if he tells me to go left, I go left.
06:39:46.040
So you and I can agree on one underlying point.
06:39:50.000
If your man wants you to become a Satanist, obviously you're going to say no because you're
06:39:54.720
going to defer to your faith because that is within reason.
06:40:00.360
However, you can have tons of disagreements within reason and you can have a deferring
06:40:11.460
I think the foundation is that he has to be submitted to God.
06:40:16.260
And then everything else besides that, like if I don't agree with him 100%, I still have
06:40:22.460
What if he's spending all that money, the ways that you hate, and he's raising those
06:40:27.040
kids, all the ways that you hate, you just, you're so angry about it.
06:40:40.060
He says, no, then I mean, I'm in charge of this family and I'm correct.
06:40:47.080
If he's you defer, the only way I would defer if he's abusing or cheating, like abusing
06:40:57.560
He just has a different worldview for where he wants.
06:41:04.300
Even though my, so even in, even in cases of faith, as long as he's not leading you
06:41:16.420
Most arguments happen within the confines of reason.
06:41:19.520
He may have reasons you don't like, but that doesn't make him unreasonable.
06:41:28.400
He is submitted to God, then I will submit to him.
06:41:32.020
Even if I don't understand why he's telling me to do something.
06:41:34.700
So how is that not fake freedom that you mentioned earlier?
06:41:38.900
Because then I don't, it's not fake freedom because I don't have to worry about a lot of
06:41:45.240
Have you ever heard like, or you probably haven't.
06:41:48.520
Are you saying that your future children aren't going to be free?
06:42:02.280
If you did, if you did, we're going to assume for a second that you had a child.
06:42:06.500
Are you going to protect the, the, um, the plugs?
06:42:17.580
Not the plugs because I've put my fingers on the plugs when I was a kid.
06:42:21.500
What if they suck their finger and then they did it?
06:42:24.560
I would teach my kids better than that because I was taught better than that.
06:42:28.720
My son did that with an extension cord and zapped them and he never did it again.
06:42:35.480
All I'm saying is that, um, I mean, it's very different, but also I'm not understanding
06:42:42.380
So, so, so, so, can I consider it to the freedom?
06:42:45.620
Would you let your two-year-old put their hand in a fire?
06:42:48.960
Um, yes, I would because that would teach them a lesson because that's what was done to me.
06:42:53.180
Okay, so I'm going to answer your question though.
06:42:55.980
No, no, it's because you mentioned fake freedom.
06:42:58.280
No, no, no, I know what, would you let your kid, hang on, would you let your kid take
06:43:01.920
a knife, hang on, hang on, would you let your kid take a knife and start stabbing themselves
06:43:06.100
in the chest because that would teach them a lesson?
06:43:09.660
No, I would grab the knife and then I would grab a pillow and then I would stab the pillow
06:43:22.680
That sounds like, hang on, that sounds like you're dominating them and not letting them
06:43:27.840
But how is, okay, I'm sorry, how is that different from, okay, not understanding exactly the point
06:43:42.680
Okay, I'm not understanding the point and the difference between a grown woman who already
06:43:49.720
has gone through life and already has been taught all these lessons, submitting fully to
06:44:02.580
Because you yourself said that I, can I answer?
06:44:05.720
Hang on, I'll answer, I'll answer the question.
06:44:09.500
Let us assume for a moment that you're 20 years old when you have your first child.
06:44:15.120
You would, you would agree that your experience is far surpassing that of the child, correct?
06:44:21.800
And so it was a duty for you to guide the child, right?
06:44:29.560
So let us assume for a second you're 40 and marry a 20-year-old.
06:44:47.780
So the lack of experience or the lack of emotional maturity or the lack of anything that one partner
06:44:53.780
may lack, you have no obligation to follow the other one for guidance.
06:45:01.260
If you are correcting a child, it's because you think that the child is out of bounds, right?
06:45:06.480
No, it's because the child doesn't know any better just yet and they're still learning
06:45:12.140
Yes, but adults can also be in the same situation where they don't know any better, right?
06:45:16.480
Okay, except the specific situation I'm asking about is the one that you brought up, where
06:45:21.780
she is shaking with anger and doesn't necessarily want to do it, but there are only specific
06:45:48.200
That she married somebody either equal in age to her or 20 years older.
06:45:54.100
She makes the agreement that he says, listen, I want a submissive wife and she submits.
06:46:01.160
What is actually the problem with him saying, good, then we're going to do things my way.
06:46:07.080
There is no problem as long as everyone's consenting, which is why I asked her a question.
06:46:13.060
You guys have like one or two minutes because the TTSs have been viewing up.
06:46:17.180
There's a second part to the equation, which is what I was asking for all of them with clarification.
06:46:21.480
You guys can each make your final arguments on this, please.
06:46:25.380
So the second part of the equation is that he, I'm not just submitting to him, but he's also laying his life down for me.
06:46:35.480
So if I really believe that he is submissive to God and I trust him, then I can be, it's not, it is freedom because I don't have to worry about all these things that I don't want to worry about as a, as a woman.
06:46:48.320
So she's talking about, she's talking about that pesky epistemology.
06:46:57.080
And so she thinks that her partner, in this case, a man who submits to God is in the image of Christ.
06:47:04.260
So she's going to submit to the partner and she's going to submit to God, but she's also going to say, look, my partner is an image bearer, direct image bearer of the relationship between the head of the church and the body of the church.
06:47:26.440
Here's the interesting thing about what she's saying though.
06:47:28.180
She's telling you that this is the case, right?
06:47:33.500
What's interesting about the truth claim is that the women and men who engage in this tend to have the best outcomes.
06:47:44.200
Well, actually we haven't had the chance to talk about my relationship.
06:47:58.880
You said that you met with a disabled man while you were disabled and got really close to him over the disability, but have open relationships.
06:48:14.560
However, if we meet somebody, it would be a conversation.
06:48:21.920
Do you think that inside of a Christian marriage, there would be any such conversation?
06:48:30.000
Yeah, so then I don't actually need to understand your epistemology to explain my own.
06:48:39.360
Your grounding foundation of knowledge is do as thou wilt, which is what it is.
06:48:44.160
Then I can give you the epistemology of the Pentecostal here who is telling you that is not my grounding knowledge.
06:48:52.220
My knowledge comes from God and the submission to God and therefore the submission of my husband.
06:48:57.660
So if we're talking about these two worldview paradigms, she has the superior one because she's saying that she will submit understanding there's a higher authority, which is her husband.
06:49:08.840
And the husband's higher authority, which is God.
06:49:17.120
If a conversation can even occur, how could you be submitted?
06:49:23.620
And if we had more time, I would love to go into it.
06:49:26.980
How could you be submitted if you could go to your husband and say you want to fuck another dude?
06:49:35.880
I have not wanted because we are all free people.
06:49:41.460
And if we see somebody that we like, it's all about what we do with your pleasure.
06:49:51.100
Yeah, I think everyone should do whatever they want.
06:49:54.100
Did you know that's a Satanist church's like affirmation?
06:50:02.580
I want to understand your perspective, which is why I asked.
06:50:06.040
And I was not asking for your perspective on her perspective.
06:50:11.520
That's not the LeVean Satanist affirmation of do as thou wilt.
06:50:28.320
What does matter is how could you, here's my question, how could you truly be submitted
06:50:33.220
like she's willing to be to your husband if you're willing to go to your husband and
06:50:49.680
If I were to be married and we chose to be completely monogamous for the rest of our
06:50:54.780
lives and that was both of our choices, that's what I would go with because that's what we
06:51:01.380
However, in this particular relationship, that was not our decision.
06:51:10.780
If submission means I'm giving myself over to you for all choice, then how could you
06:51:17.700
truly be submitted to a man who you would then be willing to go to and ask that you
06:51:30.440
Andrew, you give a response and then I have to move it on.
06:51:35.100
So I never asked to be shared and it is not about submission.
06:51:48.080
And once again, your question is not even applicable.
06:52:05.100
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
06:52:14.900
If you guys want, once we get through the TTSs, we can come back to it.
06:52:29.900
Are you related to Candace Owens or Jesse Lee Peterson?
06:52:32.920
Would love to make out with you at a Trump rally.
06:52:51.000
And yeah, we're, we're going to have her back on.
06:53:12.620
I got to get some airplane food in like four hours.
06:53:24.580
Ah, did we not all hear her say she'll teach her kids how to do acts and encourage them to
06:53:49.760
Brian, explain to Andrew about my soft guy era.
06:53:56.100
If you make seven figures a year, Venmo me $1,000 to my account.
06:54:18.380
Brian, the root cause of your huge weight gain is eating too much popcorn during the podcast.
06:54:24.560
Get to the gym already and ship that sleeve of blue white cups now.
06:54:45.200
Regardless of your personality and difficult interpersonal communication style, you do not need to be personally attacked.
06:54:52.260
If anybody can name a personal attack, I'd like to hear it.
06:55:06.200
You do a good job to take pee-pee from the highest bidder.
06:55:10.040
Thank God my wife is a blessing, and I don't need to worry about my daughter jumping over a strumpet, Mom.
06:55:31.120
When your daughter is on the corner selling cooter because of you, remember it's all your fault.
06:55:36.740
When she comes up missing because of that kind of work, remember it's you.
06:55:58.140
Can we please not ignore that Blonde said she would teach her offspring to be good at acts?
06:57:06.520
I don't get it, but maybe just disregard the scary gun because I don't know.
06:57:15.320
I feel like that kind of poisons the well a little bit.
06:57:22.600
I would take the gun and I would just disarm it and take.
06:57:43.300
I don't know the names of the guns, but I know how to take the magazine out.
06:57:47.740
And after you stole his rifle, you would get it disarmed.
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If he was not being intimidating with it, is he intimidating me with it?
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And can you put the safety on and put it in the safe?
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If he was like, no, I didn't put the safety on.
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Yeah, but what does the safety on mean in context of an AR-15?
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I would have to ask him to take the magazine out.
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I would have to ask him to take the magazine out.
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If there was one in the chamber, anything, I'm not comfortable.
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How would you know if there was one in the chamber?
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If not, then can we please go in the other room?
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I literally told you that I don't know the names of the guns.
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No, it doesn't stand for assault rifle or automatic rifle.
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And I held the magazine instead of holding the actual thing that you're supposed to hold.
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Oh, I mean, I would have vetted the man by the time I ever got to his house.
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So if he had the guns there, I knew what type of guy he was and I was happy he had him there.
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Kind of the same answer just because I have been in that situation and I knew who the person was and why he had them.
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I'd be chill with his as like, you know, she was saying as long as he's not like intimidating with it.
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I got to cut in briefly just to the Russian gal.
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You weren't really nice to me and I don't really feel like to submit.
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Like, I would want my husband to know how to use guns.
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So, by that time, I would have known him and what he's about.
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I honestly wouldn't mind it because my dad has guns already.
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Just because, also because of the line of work he was in.
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Yes, I sent that as joke, but also to stress a critical point.
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As a parent myself, I am genuinely concerned about how you are raising your children when
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Andrew, remember the dirt bike you bought me for Christmas?
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Unfortunately, I never saw that bike, because I went in the hell, as God decided to punish
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my parents for being bullies and judging people.
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Blonde is 100,000 and 10% a clergy member at St. Baptist Church and specializes in epistemology
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Iguana girl should be in one of those videos they show to kids on why drugs are bad.
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Little did I know, I'm the dummy for being on zero Xanax and listening to this blonde talk.
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I want to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're just tired from your airplane ride.
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People have plenty of reasons to lie, and if they were to lie, do you think they would be honest about lying?
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No, but why would I come on a show and fly all the way here just to be on drugs that makes no sense at all?
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You're not, can you speak into the mic, please?
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If I'm talking to the person, you can go fuck yourself because you don't know me at all, and you have no idea how my day went, what last night was like, what today was like.
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Then I took an airplane here that was six hours.
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I packed, then I got on a plane at 5 a.m., then I got the plane boarded at 5, then I got on the plane at 8.30, then I've been on a plane, then I got a rental car, then I drove the rental car two and a half hours here, then I got here, got ready in a car, and I haven't eaten anything since, and then I got here, and I had some alcohol that I got poured, and I am extremely tired.
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Hold on, just to be clear, just to be clear, I want to make something clear, the blonde next to you brought the alcohol, the alcohol was not provided by us, I want to make that very clear to any viewers watching, we make it a rule, actually, that we don't provide any alcohol, but sometimes things, but we don't provide alcohol for us, because we don't want people, oh, they got us drunk, and I said all this stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And I might have made a wrong call by saying yes, because I had nothing in my stomach, and I'm retired, but I don't understand why.
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But you were a little bit off, even before you had a sip of that alcohol.
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If I told you that I had multiple people message me, actually concerned over you, like, for example, somebody who's an EMT contacted me in the Instagram DMs, and said something along the lines of, do you have any Narcan in the studio?
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Have you made appearances on any other podcast or anything like that?
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Because, I mean, some people can have more laid-back personalities, I suppose you could say.
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For the first time meeting someone, it's weird to say that you're acting, like, different.
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Like, if we were, like, friends, and then, like, I acted different.
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If you've never met somebody, but they seem like they're acting drunk, do you think that, like, even though you don't know the person, you can still make a determination?
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Yeah, but if I knew the circumstances around, like.
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But what, you would agree with me, right, that if you never met the person at all.
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But you witnessed their behavior, you could maybe make some assumptions over their.
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I asked them, and then they gave me an explanation, and then they have been fine ever since.
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Well, yeah, but your conduct, I know it's late, I know you're tired, I know you're hungry.
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I might have totally been interrupted now, I forgot.
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Can somebody remind me what my last few words were?
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You've been here for six hours, you've been hungry.
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I know you're hungry, but she was like, it's a lot.
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Have you, have you been deprived of water and food?
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Okay, so, fuck, I just lost my train of thought again.
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I can breathe out of one nostril, so I can't smell.
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I'm not asking about your breathing, I'm asking if you have a.
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No, no, that makes it, that makes me nasally, so I can't normally, how normal people can breathe.
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Like how you can breathe out of your nose and your mouth.
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I can only breathe out of my mouth, so I'm a mouth breather.
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You can see my gums aren't inflamed, I have doctor's notes if you need them.
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But there were, there was, look, I wasn't paying, like, hyper-focused attention to you during the show.
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There were a few points where I saw your eyes were.
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No, but at the beginning of the show, at the beginning of the show, you were, like, dozing off and.
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I didn't sleep in six hours, and then I drove two and a half hours here.
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I booked the flight, it's like, I paid for it, and I paid for a rental car.
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And if, and I'm a responsible adult, I'm a CEO, I have my own company, I wouldn't risk doing that and ruining my reputation.
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And talking about it on here, I feel like it's very uncomfortable, it's very inappropriate, and it's very sad.
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That, I was enjoying myself and having fun, and we already spoke about it, and I appreciated that you cared about it.
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And then, to bring it up on the podcast instead of privately.
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Well, I mean, there's not really room for me to, like.
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Well, I don't, frankly, afterwards, I don't know.
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I mean, like, as soon as you showed off the camera.
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They're literally, I had, like, a couple, like, I had a nurse, I had an EMT private message me on Instagram saying,
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I mean, everybody thinks that I'm abusing my children, so it, the parents are something.
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Yeah, I was just saying, how can you get mad kind of out of both sides of the mouth?
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The one says, we are too overly concerned, and the other one says, you're not concerned enough.
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So, the thing is, is, remember earlier in the podcast, I was like, grab an energy drink, you'll feel better.
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Or, it's not a, it's not a beat up on you, it's just that I've flown out from, you know, the other side of the country to be in person on that podcast,
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and I know what jet lag will do, and kind of the, the sleepless night, and that kind of thing.
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It's just, it's just, from his perspective, it's just concerning.
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I said thank you to you, and to him, and to anyone who wants to DM me.
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You could DM me on my actual Instagram as well.
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If you wanted to contact me directly, that would probably be more sufficient than contacting someone that I just met today.
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But, as I said, I'm a smart, intelligent girl, and coming here and spending money to come here and doing that would just be silly, dumb, and frankly, just stupid.
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But, I appreciate all of you guys caring, and it's just uncomfortable, and frankly.
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A loaded AR-15 can't shoot you any more than Brian can kiss anyone on his panel.
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Yeah, Toy Boat, Toy Boat, Toy Boat, Toy Boat, Toy Boat, Toy Boat.
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The Inquisition Patriarchy requests your services to get Fat Body Brian into shape and get him
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I go to the mirror every morning and I say, Toy Boat, over and over and over again, just
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I gotta tell you, like, I don't often meet another human who has as wide of a base of
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knowledge as you to actually be fact-checking me.
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And I gotta tell you, it's super awesome that you are that learned of things and you obviously
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have still more of the biblical and religious worldview, which is okay, because I have an
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But all I'm saying is, I can so much more easily bullshit the average person because
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they don't have a wide enough span of knowledge about anything in life to actually engage me
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Like when they say epistemology means the study of the epistles?
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Right, but you gotta figure, the average person is so dumb, that would fly.
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Like, so you have to understand, that was part of my aggression was like, oh shit.
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But usually I can just flow with it and I know enough of the basic information of what
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I'm saying and I can deliver it in a way that sounds intelligent enough that people just
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You see this big pimple that's right here on this enormous forehead?
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Let's stick with the roasting instead of the, um, lazing.
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No, I'm saying I see it in the sense that we all have to, we come up with these labels
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and these stereotypes just based on, we're trying to make some sense of everything.
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I popped it on the way here because I was like, oh my God, it's getting white.
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And you told me I'm only a four or whatever I am.
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Would you rather be with a random man, random bear, or Putin riding a bear?
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I would prefer just the random bear because I like to cuddle with bears.
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We had a lot of, no, we had a lot of bears in Russia.
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Someone just got killed not too long ago with a bear.
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Okay, in California, once in a while that happens.
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In my village in Russia, we saw bears passing by all the time.
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Literally cuddled with them while I saw a drunk man pass out on the street.
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Max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, max, get back here.
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he spoke up for the mouth when he felt a line was being crossed.
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You see what I'm saying about the big brain, though?
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It's rough when you start to know a certain amount of knowledge.
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I'm not convinced that you know a certain amount of it.
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Right, and I'm convinced that you know your shit super well.
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All I'm asking is the grace to maybe open a corner of your mind to the fact that I understand a different realm of the world.
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To quote a great atheist debater, apparently a great atheist debater, I remain unconvinced.
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And judging by what everybody said to me today, I mean, that's a roast.
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They already said it to me, I don't need to dump the trauma back onto you.
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You can just read the list of everything that was said to me.
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And all I'm saying is, sir, we're not that much different.
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Different vernacular, different color, sex, whatever you want to say, different stories, but not that different.
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I just gave you all the trauma that I had to hear from everybody.
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You're a terrible parent abusing your children with your spankings and your purity culture.
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Purity culture, by the way, they're starting to do the studies now, girls.
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I was in the hardcore purity culture where my whole body was just thin.
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It's causing way much more harm being a slut than being a slut.
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This is how I ended up with an idiot first husband.
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Yeah, but I need you to understand that I'm not a Puritan.
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I'm simply trying to give people perspective of so much of our worldview and our beliefs
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are developed from the experiences we have, which are very different.
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I'm a Puritan with I just sleep with whoever I want to sleep with because I think it's fun.
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Don't you think that maybe there's a balancing act there?
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It's just like a kid when they're little and we take them trick-or-treating and they have
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Wait, we got to let them go through those few years where they make themselves fucking sick.
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No matter what, somebody's throwing up until they're like nine at least.
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Can we compromise between it's possible that my kids sneak candy on Halloween without me
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knowing that they do it with my mom has jizz on her face on her Instagram where I exist.
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Can we compromise between the two of those things?
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My kids are going to public elementary school with these current agendas and they're having
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to hear all of these weird messages about body parts and this and that.
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Also, the sexual harassment and the molestation stuff starts very young.
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If you do not teach a child real shit these days, somebody else is going to teach it to
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them one way or the other and they're not going to know what is going on.
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But you're teaching them something that's based off feelings and just pleasure.
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I'm teaching my kids about body autonomy, about not attaching shame to their genitals,
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And it being okay to have jizz all over your face with, oh my God.
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The one thing you never want to have to see your kids is I can explain.
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Hey, Borgie, most people probably don't buy it.
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They're just being nice because you're crazy or they just want to bang.
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Uh, there's four more coming through right now.
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Kay's eye rolls when her BS detector is going off his base.
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But I could still never date her until she cut off Corey.
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To the hooker, another facial will remove that pimple.
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Brian, drop down and give me 30 sit-ups right now.
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I don't remember what it was where they were like, he flips the check a coin.
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He goes, have a rat knot that thing off your face.
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Fat boy Burger King eating Andrew has more problems than a pimple.
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Fat boy has crossed over gender barriers by growing bigger tits than all the girls on the panel.
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Can we generalize it so it's not like personally attacking somebody?
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I'm sorry, Daniel, but we do reserve the right to not show it.
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And I mean, this is probably a little TOS, so I'm sorry, Daniel.
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If you DM me something a little more polite to my Instagram directly within the next few minutes,
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You can send something else, but I can't read it.
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I appreciate your TTS, though, or your message anyways.
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Going around the table, do you think that body count matters?
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I don't think body count matters, but I think soul count matters.
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You see, a lot of people are engaging in the act of sex because there's another person there.
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But essentially, it's a self-centered, just kind of mutual master-based situation where basically I could use a man like a dildo, like a casual thing.
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But I believe that it's a very serious matter when you create a soul connection with somebody and then engage in the sexual relationship.
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And I, that is, that is the thing, is I no longer have those masturbation type of situations.
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In a sense, I'm taking responsibility for whatever comes up for them in that very vulnerable situation.
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Unless they are willing to pay your rent, is that correct?
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But I would only get to ever that level of ever being sexual with a man.
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In a sense, I'm saying, let me know more of you.
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And I'm, in a sense, deciding when I am agreeing to sleep with a man.
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If Nick back there offered you $10,000 to fuck tonight.
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So what I would do is say, let's get to know each other a little bit better.
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I'm saying I need to know you a little bit better.
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Well, can I ask you your honest take on something?
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Let us assume for a second that there was a man who was interested in two women.
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The first one goes to him and says, look, I had sex with 50 men and it meant nothing.
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And the second one goes to him and said, look, I had sex with 50 men.
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Do you think that he would perceive it any differently between the two?
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I have no idea his worldview or spiritual beliefs about things.
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So I can't answer that because everybody honestly looks at these things differently.
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From what I know out here, the average man, honestly, you guys, do you want the real answer?
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The real answer is a man will say he wants this virginal, innocent thing, but then he gets with her and she doesn't know what she's doing.
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It's not just this, my wedding night, you guys, I cried.
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I was in the churches getting the phone calls from the girls on their wedding night who were sold this bill of goods crying.
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I know a lot of Christian women that are happy.
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So let's just say a man took advantage of a woman.
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I've never had an issue getting into a relationship because of how many people I've slept with.
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Am I going to ask the man how many have you slept with?
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But if you believe everything is so vibrational, don't you think that when you're having sex, the vibrations are like.
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Yes, and that's why I'm extremely cautious with who I would ever have sex with.
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I think you're having this idea that I'm just going out fucking whoever.
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You called yourself a prostitute a million times.
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Honestly, as truth is your highest value, which I do respect at least that, right?
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Did a single woman of the church actually call you and say she was having trouble because she was a virgin on a wedding night?
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I don't know if she would feel comfortable with me sharing this, but that's one off the top.
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She has a different last name now so it could cover the idea.
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Can you provide a single shred of evidence, a single woman who was a virgin on a wedding night in a church, called you and cried to you because she was upset she was a virgin on a wedding night?
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Have you ever been a woman and had sex the first time?
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Do you know what it feels like to have a vagina and have for the first time in your life because you were told that tampon I didn't hurt that much.
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I understand that there's intelligent ways to take the purity culture and all that, but a lot of families are running with this in the wrong direction.
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And we have girls out here who've never even inserted a tampon.
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But that's, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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That is equivalent to anybody losing their virginity, not just on their marriage night.
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You don't know any women who got married who never went to the tampon.
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I just gave you a name, not to mention myself, not to mention all of the hundreds of women
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What is the difference between that and the night you lose your virginity outside of marriage?
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I do think that the body count matters, but only to kind of see where the other person's
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experiences are at and what to expect from them.
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I would like to get married with all of my ten fingers.
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Well, my dad pushed me out of the door at 13 and told me, he essentially gave me the talk
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I had sex with a few guys when I was a teenager.
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It doesn't, but I don't know why everyone has to know my body count.
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Well, it's at least one because I've had a boyfriend.
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But I mean, do you want to give an actual range?
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Unfortunately, I've been sexually or sexual with about 10 to 12 people.
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You strike me as the type of person who knows exactly how many.
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Well, 10 like actual, the whole intercourse, but then like two where we just.
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I was going to say, I think I saw the one with your dad.
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Crazy how Blondie is asking you to trust her after she just admitted to being a manipulative
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Maybe we can, I don't know if it'll happen tonight.
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To the panel, can you mention three countries of the world?
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I don't know if it's going to come through proper.
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I don't know if it's going to come through proper.
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Any final thoughts from anybody before we wrap this show up?
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Well, I would like to extend my thanks to the entire panel,
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including whatever for having The Crucible on and hosting us again.
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Highly recommend The Crucible to throw in the last minute chats towards Brian for the roast section
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I know that these debates can be very contentious.
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Another relationship coach who doesn't know crap about how to maintain a long-term relationship
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Well, I've really, to be honest with you, I've never been one to have boyfriends.
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Blondie seems to be the type of person who will be left to rot in a nursing home,
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wondering why her kids hate her after they abandon her for grooming
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and causing them a life of depression and misery.
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Anyways, I didn't think about the bears and the bears.
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Okay, so I got the message via Instagram for the guy who I wouldn't share the TDS for.
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Anyways, he says, can you ask Blondie why she is so cool with, oh my God, hold on.
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I mean, because I was always wondering, is it you?
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Why are you so cool with embarrassing your children in the future?
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My kids are actually not embarrassed by it because we have a very sex positive household.
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Do you worry about the OnlyFans embarrassing your children in the future?
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No, because they, in a sense, at their age category, they know, in a sense, what I do in an age-appropriate way.
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So, for example, my son's 11, and he understands I'm a model, and it's sexy stuff that would not be appropriate for him to see or be in the house.
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What about when he's, uh, when he, what about when he's 17?
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That's fine, because I can be able to have, I don't have this taboo with the sex, you guys.
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No, they don't have shame attached to their sexuality.
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What if, hang on, what if you're, what if your son is 17 comes to you?
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I don't raise my kids to live by the social norms of other people.
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And in our family, we have a different culture that works for us.
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No, my kids are the smartest fucking kids you will ever meet in your life.
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I'll tell you that because I've never bullshitted them.
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Just because you tell your kids something doesn't mean they're going to listen.
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He comes to you and he's like, Mom, look at this picture of you with, you know, mogert
07:42:40.600
He says, look at this picture of you with mogert all over your face.
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Mom, you have a picture of mogert all over your face.
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You should not be getting bullied by the fucking kids at school, okay?
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I mean, a kid already is not alive because of that.
07:42:58.240
You guys, you're thinking that my kids are typical kids.
07:43:09.100
They will come home and say, guess what that fucking bitch did, Mom?
07:43:21.000
I'm going to pray for your kids because that is really sad.
07:43:28.180
Every time somebody has been inappropriate with them, they either put them in their place
07:43:31.080
themselves, they tell them, they tell me, and we handle shit.
07:43:34.040
You don't think that that's how they're going to start talking to everybody they come
07:43:37.520
I have guided them and taught them how to appropriate.
07:43:41.100
Well, the way you talk to Brian is how your kids are going to talk to people, too.
07:43:44.860
The way that you talk to them is the way that they're going to talk to other people.
07:43:47.540
We met that in a bad, just no different than Brian, popped off for a second and said
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They need to learn how to manage their language.
07:44:05.960
We are not allowed to disrespect people, but we are allowed-
07:44:10.540
No, but she's not saying it to the person's face.
07:44:25.600
Just because you don't get called by the school doesn't mean something happens in private.
07:44:29.040
So if my daughter says a cuss word to somebody in private, that's something I need to worry
07:44:33.860
Yes, I would say I cussed my whole life in private, and I'm fine.
07:44:37.740
If your daughter, if your daughter at 18 years, no, 16 years old is starting to post stuff
07:44:57.980
Do you understand that language is different across culture?
07:45:00.240
Okay, maybe not the language, but what about everything else?
07:45:09.320
When you lower the volume, my ears are about to explode.
07:45:11.800
You're ignorant to think that it's okay for your children to be masturbating, to be doing
07:45:20.800
A woman, a woman, a woman, a woman, a woman, a woman.
07:45:22.800
I don't feel bad for those comics because I want you to open up your mind to what you're
07:45:28.100
The Christian Homes, get the newspaper with a nude model on the front page.
07:45:36.540
Okay, I really, if the United States is too big for you-
07:45:49.200
Why yell when you can just have a civil discussion?
07:45:54.420
These when the chats, I don't feel bad for them anymore because you need to realize what's
07:46:02.180
If there's no children involved, all right, do what you gotta do.
07:46:09.480
You're just as bad as the kids or the adults that are chopping off the genitalia of these
07:46:20.720
God groomed them to be sexual and you made them sexual beings.
07:46:24.380
At what point would it be appropriate for a person who was sexual?
07:46:32.740
When you apologize for yelling, shut the fuck up to the nip slip girl.
07:46:45.760
I apologized before we went live again after we had to restart the stream.
07:46:54.400
Sending this as a support comment to Brian and Andrew.
07:47:08.260
We should not bring children into the dating podcast.
07:47:26.300
She's gonna bring a dildo to the damn classroom.
07:47:29.500
What do you tell the class when it's career day at school?
07:47:50.920
Any home we place your children in will be better than the home you are raising them in.
07:47:55.720
Well, good luck with your little snowflakes living out here in the real fucking world, guys.
07:48:04.800
You're creating a bunch of children who don't tell you what's really going on in their lives.
07:48:12.280
If your kids spoke up like that to people I know, they'd get a bat to the back of the head.
07:48:20.800
And you're teaching them that it's okay to get beat.
07:48:28.200
He just- I have heard people talk about belt beating a child, smacking them on the back
07:48:33.340
of the head, and all these sort of physical things.
07:48:36.740
And you're calling it discipline and blah, blah, blah.
07:48:45.040
Wait, what's wrong with taking a belt to a kid?
07:48:50.200
This is what happens when you belt a kid, by the way.
07:48:55.640
So if you want to belt a kid, they're showing them to me.
07:49:05.300
That's to all of you, not directed in any direction, so that mitigates the shut up.
07:49:09.920
If it's a general shut up, it's mitigates to the whole panel.
07:49:13.580
Okay, we've got to lower the volume if we are going to talk a little bit here.
07:49:27.140
You know one of those really thick dad leather belts?
07:50:28.060
This is one of the most feral podcasts I've had, bro.
07:51:21.160
There's just not that many people who can fucking fact-check me, and I need that shit.
07:51:26.780
Everybody was fact-checking you the whole time.
07:51:42.200
But I believe you at least have an awareness of other cultures.
07:51:49.240
And you'll probably go to bed at night and rethink over a couple fucking things I said.
07:52:13.540
This isn't a parent taking a back to a kid you abysmal tout.
07:52:16.960
But your kids will grow up to speak to people who don't have to take their hook-a-mouth shit.
07:52:26.120
On the body count thing, Anon, thank you for the message.
07:52:28.960
Someone said, like, well, you know, these women, they're going to disappoint their man if they don't have experience.
07:52:37.300
First off, if you're a guy and you have more sexual experience than the woman, women tend to look towards men to lead them in various ways.
07:52:46.840
In the relationship, in the bedroom, whatever it is.
07:52:49.260
So as a guy, you can take a woman who has little or even no sexual experience, and you can have fantastic sex with her.
07:52:59.020
As long as she's comfortable with her body and all that, though.
07:53:02.220
Okay, but the point I'm trying to make is I don't think we should be – because I've had women who've come on the show, and they were perhaps a little naive.
07:53:11.140
And they said, well, don't – and this is, like, I think something women will tell other women in an effort to also get their friends and peers to make the same mistakes they did by being promiscuous.
07:53:24.080
But we – I've had girls come on the show and say, you know, not, like, coping because they have a high body count, but, like, they're more on the naive end of it.
07:53:33.200
Where they're, like – but I thought, wait, don't guys prefer, like, girls who are, like, really sexually experienced and can rock their world and are really good in bed?
07:53:43.320
I want to do just a call to action if there are any women who are feeling pressured by other women or other men to be promiscuous or to have casual sex so that in this warped worldview so that you can become better in bed because they're telling you that that's what guys want.
07:54:02.840
I can guarantee you that the guy that actually likes you, he's going to absolutely disregard your lack of experience in the bedroom.
07:54:12.360
If he really cares about you, he's going to be – he's going to take his time.
07:54:18.000
And don't, like, if you're getting pressured to just, like, sleep around so you can get experience, don't guys like that.
07:54:27.840
If a guy really likes you, if you don't give the best blow job, if you need him to show you how to, you know, do a certain position, like – why are you fucking laughing at me?
07:54:42.980
Because you're going, like, so hard into detail about this.
07:54:46.780
He needs to put you on the side and lift up your leg.
07:54:56.460
A lot of guys will actually perhaps enjoy that component, like, perhaps if you're less experienced.
07:55:03.780
And then a guy who's actually worth his salt, who's going to be a good partner to you, who's going to – this is going to sound fucking corny – who's going to cherish you, who's going to love you, whatever.
07:55:15.140
So don't get pressured into fucking being a fucking strumpet for this fucking fake news shit.
07:55:35.280
Does it gross you out knowing that someone has a high body count and it makes you not want to touch them?
07:55:40.620
There's a lot of guys that don't know what they're doing at all.
07:55:43.480
They've had sex with tons of people and apparently –
07:55:44.960
I feel like low-value men don't care if they're high-value men.
07:55:49.800
Actually, I think it's the opposite from my experience.
07:55:54.640
For me, at least for me, I mean, someone who's had sex – I've had sex.
07:56:09.340
Can I have one of her numbers and ask her if you really knew what you were doing or was she faking?
07:56:14.580
Guys would be surprised how many times you have sex.
07:56:16.340
I'm not going to put your fucking crazy ass in contact with a fucking ex of mine.
07:56:23.220
Ain't no fucking way you're talking to any fucking girl.
07:56:28.520
What I was trying to say before you interrupted me was is that if you're a guy, you have any degree of sexual experience.
07:56:35.300
If you know what you're doing, you know how to lead, you can, like, teach a girl.
07:56:39.660
And it's not going to be a turnoff or anything.
07:56:43.740
You can have good sex with a girl who's never had sex, ever.
07:56:49.880
I mean, somebody has to be the girls you practice on.
07:56:55.540
My point is maybe a girl like me is the girl you practice on and you feel safe with.
07:57:07.980
I'm taking one for the team in a lot of fucking ways.
07:57:13.300
Look, there's been a couple questionables here and there, but I take pride in not sticking my dick in crazy.
07:57:56.360
It's no different than when the guys get in a fight.
07:57:59.140
You know, they just go beat the shit out of each other and then it's done.
07:58:05.080
Well, I understand, but I'm just saying if he found a room in his heart to be like,
07:58:16.500
Your voice is like nails on a fucking chalkboard.
07:58:24.360
I'm going to pretend like you need to just make my dick go soft.
07:58:28.920
Like, a lot of people think that guys, like, they'll hit it once.
07:58:32.900
But, like, for me, I never want to sleep with a girl once.
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So, like, if I sleep with a girl, I've already made the decision that I want there to be continuity.
07:59:06.760
To me, we – I felt like – I felt like we had this connection.
07:59:16.240
You got to talk to the mic or I can't hear her in my earpiece.
07:59:23.000
He's getting really annoyed that I'm talking to you.
07:59:33.940
You might as well just stay for the rest of the show.
07:59:39.680
I thought that you had an interesting personality as well.
07:59:44.980
Part of the show is the combative – hang on, hang on.
07:59:50.200
I'm not upset with you in honesty and neither is Brian.
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But when you already apologized for saying like –
08:00:06.860
You know, it's kind of when you call – never mind.
08:00:10.500
I think she's feeling like the saris are empty like what I did.
08:00:16.220
I think she's feeling like the saris are empty like everybody was feeling like my saris were empty.
08:00:28.240
So why did she say she bled and was unprepared on her wedding day?
08:00:34.340
Because – so I did not have good first sexual experiences.
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And so then I went celibate for years and years and years before I actually got married.
08:01:00.020
I had a five-some in college with a girl who had a boyfriend.
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I mean, do you want me to make you a video and send it to you?
08:01:21.360
I had a five-some in college with a girl who had a boyfriend for three years in high school.
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And then when she did it and the five-some, it was like a murder scene.
08:01:39.100
You don't – what was your body count at before you got married?
08:01:50.780
I really didn't – I wasn't sexually experienced at all by the time I got married.
08:01:54.260
But when we were talking about the body counts, you started off by saying, well, my dad kicked
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I was trying to calculate about how many as a teenager.
08:02:06.920
Somebody also messaged me saying that you have a fake Rolex.
08:02:16.720
The things that you would come onto a podcast that is this big, you wouldn't wear a fake
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You would know the number of celebrities that come in, the number of NDAs that I've signed,
08:02:56.520
Is there any you didn't sign an NDA for of the guys?
08:03:23.240
Wait, so of the guys who you didn't sign an NDA for, who are the ones who you –
08:03:27.800
are you saying you were – you, like, hooked up with them, or –
08:03:34.420
Wait, Quentin Tarantino is a customer of your foot fetish business?
08:03:39.840
I worked for the foot pad that was owned by Jason.
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Then I worked for the foot spot, and then I just opened up my own.
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And I signed multiple NDAs of clients and things like that.
08:03:51.320
So I'm telling you that I've met multiple celebrities that have sucked my toes and things like that.
08:04:12.600
Wait, I mean, honestly, I just want to be – I just want to know.
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Has Quentin Tarantino taken your foot and put it in his mouth?
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These are her customers who have not signed an NDA, so she can say it without getting
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And all those other people she mentioned, she just can't confirm nor deny.
08:04:54.120
Well, did Quentin Tarantino wash his feet first?
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If they request stinky, smelly, dirty, dirty, it's like they want you to walk around the
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sides of the room and they want you to have like spiderwebs or whatever like is on the
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If you ask me anything about the fetish world, you would know.
08:05:27.760
Well, people have things that they just have to deal with and get it out with and that's
08:05:41.940
I just want to say that I go to the movie theater and I'm like, oh my God, there's
08:05:47.700
Nick is a virgin and this is very disturbing for him to listen to.
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Guys, if you want to get your last minute TTSs in, sorry guys, I'll trigger the ones
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If the blonde had a belt in her life, maybe she wouldn't be such a shitty parent.
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You're an awful person and everyone there is clowning you right now.
08:06:24.200
They probably won't have me back, but they'll definitely have her back.
08:06:34.500
By the way, Brian, I am 24, a virgin, submissive, give amazing massages.
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But I am unfortunately blonde, five feet, seven inches, and I live in Florida, lol.
08:06:49.960
I mean, what's the – is it like in any reality?
08:06:57.640
Five minutes before the podcast ends and we just now find out Cutie sucked her toes.
08:07:03.740
That this would have been a really interesting panel if you simps wouldn't have been all over Blondie all night.
08:07:17.640
With your notes or whatever, there's a lot of notes.
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So you – we have to wrap up the show here soon.
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If you're down to come back, we'd be happy to get you on and actually get through the pre-show notes that you provided.
08:07:38.620
I will give you formal pre-show notes next time.
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You got to promise next time you come back, you can't be a grime of worm tongue.
08:07:48.980
So you can't be whispering to the chick next to you and be like –
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if you're just going to be talking shit on social media for the next fucking three weeks.
08:08:08.460
No, I know – and I know that you have trauma around that, but I can assure you –
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I am the type that will talk shit to your face.
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It's only because I can't do lives because I got banned.
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You will have my reverence and respect if you actually go on and start praising me on your Instagram.
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If you praise me in the coming days and weeks instead of just talking massive shit.
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Maybe a little inexperienced in life, but that's not your fault.
08:09:02.480
She said you're inexperienced in life, but that's not your fault.
08:09:10.060
So I want to try this thing where I go through, just real quick before we wrap it up,
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And then moving over, we have a gal in the center, kind of based.
08:09:30.420
Then to the 18-year-old, nobody's sure because we didn't get to hear enough.
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Next to you, I'm sorry to say this, but not based.
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Okay, if you guys want, get your last minute TTSs in.
08:10:13.680
So, guys, it's been 27 minutes since a Prime came in.
08:10:18.080
North Korean, God, dropped a Prime 27 minutes ago.
08:10:37.500
So, if somebody can do a little, you know, do a little test on the Primes.
08:10:48.740
If you're watching on YouTube, by the way, Madison's going to start streaming.
08:10:59.720
Twitch, and, yeah, guys, and there's no ads on Twitch, at least for the month of June.
08:11:19.380
Would you rather, okay, would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
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Would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
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I really, really love bears, and I don't really like man.
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I mean, yeah, the bear could kill me, but also the man.
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They could, they could say, they could murder you, they could torture, whatever.
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By the way, the base side of the table said man.
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So the question here is, so given this sort of fear that you guys have of men, to the
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point that you'd rather be in a forest, come across a random bear in the woods, what percentage
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of men do you think would opt to victimize you in this situation?
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So if we're plucking random men out of the population, what, what percentage?
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Well, he's in the woods, so that's not very random.
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I'm going to go with 75% chance it's not going to go well for me.
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Judging by the sexual assault statistics for women.
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75% of us, by the time we get to college, have been assaulted.
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So what percentage of men do you think in the circumstances would choose to victimize you?
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So the population of men in the United States, I believe, is 160 million.
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You'd think that 80 million men in the United States would murder you or essay you?
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With the bear, it's about the same, but I would rather get mauled by a bear at this point.
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So that means that one of these two is going to kill one of you right now.
08:14:08.020
Again, we are talking about the situation where two people are randomly in the woods.
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Just two random people who don't know each other.
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We're talking about a population of men, and you're saying exactly half of them will kill you.
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I think it's absolutely astounding the numbers we get, but I so want to argue it now.
08:15:03.060
Are you specifically saying how many men overall, I think, have the potential to do that?
08:15:12.220
You're literally saying half would do that to you?
08:15:14.160
No, specifically in that situation, there's a 50-50 chance.
08:15:18.540
Specifically, but that was exactly the question.
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Yeah, but that is specifically in that exact situation.
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I would say out of the pool of men that this particular person would be the person to do something bad.
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I would say less than 10%, and that's more on the 5% side.
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If you guys think about what it is scalably, do you understand what it would look like if there was $100 million and $1 bills on that table, what that would look like?
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You can't actually envision it because it's so much.
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You're saying that out of 150 million men that you think that 30% of them would do something bad to you if they happened to be in a forest with you alone.
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Because that's at least how many men are lying to us on dates and saying that they want to get married and have kids and they don't or whatever.
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So in that same logic, you can also are going to be that person that will take advantage.
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But I'm saying that men maliciously lie in order to get a certain agenda done with a woman.
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But for the most part, men are coming from me and taking my sexual energy.
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Maybe I mis-marketed and they thought I was this virgin.
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But just know that me and Andrew would absolutely smoke you guys on this if we had the time.
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And all the women who don't speak up about the stuff that happens.
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Well, when your daughters get abused because you guys were fucking ignorant.
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I have no real life because I'm living it right now.
08:18:44.380
Because men are the ones that, so if men are going to war and then the women are back
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home by themselves, they're going to be more vulnerable without a male figure.
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And let's just say in a world where most men got annihilated from war in a different country
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and now this country is just majority women, we are going to be more vulnerable naturally.
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Certainly, perhaps it would be catastrophic to that country if all the men were wiped out.
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So if some women are thriving, some women have it average, and then some women are suffering,
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It's like, well, some men are going to die, but what if.
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Well, you just, the example you gave is all the men died.
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You could give the counter example the same exact way, but that would still make Brian's
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And it depends on if you think that death is the worst case scenario.
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I think just being alive and suffering could be worse.
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It is a bit heavy, but so would you, and I'll open it to the whole panel, starting with you.
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But I thought you could have no emotional connection with them.
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I'm just done with getting abused, to be honest.
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Why does it affect you so much if sex isn't really like that?
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At this point, I would like to die and leave my legacy that I've written books.
08:20:58.820
And sometimes you got to die to get a point across.
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But anyways, just for the sake of moving things on.
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But the question is, I should have just kind of pushed on this initially when I asked the
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question, the question is who is the primary victim of war men or women?
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And it does, the question does not give you an option of saying everyone.
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So if you had to choose one, which do you choose?
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It's the men because of the traumas that they are stuck with after all that, even if they
08:21:34.900
So going to you, world war one, who's the primary victim of world war one for you?
08:22:00.660
Well, Ukraine was very modern and I have some information on, on, uh, the Ukraine war.
08:22:06.560
But before you say that, can, can, can you say women?
08:22:27.060
We have plural in Spanish too for mohair, right?
08:22:29.700
We, we know what Spanish, we know what plural is in Spanish too, right?
08:22:52.240
Actually, people who smoke cigarettes, it actually does.
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You can fact check me on this, but so when the Ukraine war broke out, all the men had to
08:23:25.400
So from the age of 18 to, it was either 60, 65, they had to remain in the country.
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All the women of any age could flee the country.
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Maybe some of, not all the men had to get involved in the war effort, but a lot did.
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The women could go to, they could go off to Romania.
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They could be up in the club doing all this shit.
08:24:06.040
So on the left, you have Ukrainian women who were screenshotted on, uh, I believe it's
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primarily Tinder, a dating app trying to get dick in various countries that they fled to.
08:24:22.500
On the right, you have, well, I can't really, I don't want to say it, but you have, uh, the
08:24:29.660
casualties of war, uh, seeing this photo, women clubbing, partying, trying to get dick down
08:24:49.740
So knowing that there are thousands or hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of Ukrainian women
08:24:55.880
who went to Stockholm and went to go fuck hot Swedish dudes and they're on Tinder and then
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comparing it to the other photo, does that change your view at all on this?
08:25:09.340
No, because although that they are victims to death, like obviously that's horrible.
08:25:16.060
And I do believe that men still have the responsibility of protecting and, but, but this
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is going back to not to bring back to you, but it's like those women are now without a male
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They're trying to do their, they go into sex work or they're looking to, to survive.
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And now not only are they victims, but now the children are victims to, to just more
08:25:48.740
Well, that's a very, that's a very, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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How could it not be the case when I use the term, the word primary, which has a meaning?
08:26:10.060
Now, if I grant you that it would be absolutely devastating to, for example, a wife of a soldier
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If I grant you that it would be devastating to her and she would be hurt and, and distraught.
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Now, couldn't you at least be grant to me that dying is worse than being distraught and coping
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That, that is still, they're still being victims to war.
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Even in the Israel-Palestine conflict, the men are still the primary victims of war, even
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The men are the primary victims of war in every single conflict.
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But hold on, but the men are the ones who started.
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Women aren't out here declaring war on each other.
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But you, people that, that are like you, they like to argue that, oh, feminists are victims
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and la, la, la, like that victim mentality, right?
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Like, isn't that your guys' duty to protect us women?
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Is it, is it, is it wrong to say that somebody dying, they're, they're not a victim?
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They are a victim, but also, what about the kids and the children that are also, hold
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on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, let me address, hold on, no, hold on, see,
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So when feminists make, stop, stop, stop, everybody stop, goddamn, stop, stop, holy fuck, Jesus
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Christ, you guys are, stop, holy fuck, let me talk.
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Look, the reason feminists are criticized when it comes to their victimhood mindset, their
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victim mindset is because they'll complain about things like manspreading and mansplaining
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and these sorts of benign and arbitrary things.
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Because the, the grievances, and granted, I, I do think there are actually legitimate grievance,
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However, feminists will often make, they will either exaggerate or there will be a hyperbole.
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They'll present false information when it comes to their supposed victimhood status.
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And then they'll also just complain about just the most benign, ridiculous shit, like
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Okay, so that, that's where the criticisms come for.
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So you can't then use that as justification to be like, well, you're, why are you calling
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yourself, why are you calling men victims when they fucking die in war?
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I apologize if I come off as a snowflake for holding the position that men dying in war makes
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They are victims, but also like looking at it from like a dark perspective, like, okay,
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So with my church, there's a ministry where we go to Africa.
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So there's a ministry at church where we go, well, I don't, but my church goes out to Africa
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and looks over the, the widows and the children that are left alone because the men have to
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go to war and they're just left in villages and they're left without food.
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So if we're going to be approaching this from a traditional standpoint that men are, that's
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I'm not saying it's, they're not victims, but they are, they are going to war to protect
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But now the victims that are still living are the women and children that are having
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to, I don't agree with what these Ukrainian women are doing, but if anything, it just shows
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how much more broken they get without the male leader in the frame, you don't have to agree
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But, but the children and the rubble, the children and the woman in the rubble right now, as we
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speak, those are victims that are still alive and breathing because of war.
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So if I can acknowledge that it's absolutely, war is absolutely has a negative impact on
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However, the men who are dying are the primary victims of war.
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But I don't, I think you're not, you're thinking I'm not coming from a feminist point, but I'm
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actually making a point that men are much more, I can almost say more important than
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women that they hold such a valuable, like value in the whole family unit that when they
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Well, if they're more important than women, wouldn't their death be more important than
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No, it makes, it makes much more of a, of a suffering.
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Because more people are being affected without their leadership and without their protection
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Let's assume that, uh, I don't know what the death toll is in the Ukraine conflict, but
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let's assume in, uh, World War II that 5 million of the men that died in World War II were single.
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They had, maybe they had a father, mother, brother, sisters.
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I'll grant that, uh, knowing this, those 5 million men that didn't have a spouse, didn't
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have kids, are those men then the primary victim of war?
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No, I'm saying no, like no on my, on my argument.
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So if that, for the situation you just gave me, no, then if there's no woman or children
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involved, then yeah, I guess the men are more victim in that situation.
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Well, what about the father and the mother and brothers and sisters?
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This is like a hard question, but the thing is, so you think that, so you guys just think
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straight out, it's the men are more victims than that.
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Yes, every military conflict, every military conflict.
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Yeah, but there, there is all, there are also women that are in war.
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They know there's a chance that they'll never come back to their families, so yeah.
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Yeah, and there's a domino effect, but there's a domino effect from that.
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How about women go and fight all the wars and men stay at home, and then we can say that
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I, I believe that men should be out fighting the war, and it's unfortunate that they are the
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Yeah, I know, but let's assume for, hang on, let us assume for a second women were, hang on,
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but let us assume for a second women were the ones out fighting the wars while men stayed
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Would you, yeah, would you, would you say though that women or men then would be the
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Okay, wait, so if all women were out in war, would we be the victims?
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If the women fought the wars instead of the men and the men stayed home, would you say that?
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No, no, I think the women now would be, the women would be the victim, because the men
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Yeah, but they're in the leadership role if they're not fighting.
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Well, I know, I don't agree with that, but we're just giving the circumstance if we were
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to switch it for whatever reason, then yeah, no.
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Would the women then be the primary victims of war?
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If they were out, yes, yes, because I believe that men could be at home figuring it out.
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I don't believe they should be staying at home.
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So then if women were the primary victims of war in that scenario, then if you reversed
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it to men, then men should be the primary victims of war.
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Yeah, because we'd be so messed up, women would be so weak.
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No, no, no, because if we were, it'd be a lose-lose situation that way, because if all
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women were to go to war, we'd be messed up, and if the men would just have to stay back
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home, no, like I don't believe that that would work.
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I don't know if this is making sense logically to me, but.
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Because if, by your answer, you say if women went to war instead of men, they'd be the
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primary victims of war, but you say when men go to war instead of women, they're not
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Well, I can't, that logic doesn't stand because I'm thinking that men should be going out to
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war because they are supposed to be protecting us and stuff like that, and if we were to switch
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it, I still, in my head, I'm like, well, men are, they will figure out their leaders
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and stuff, so, but if they're back at home and their wife is dead, but the logic doesn't
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work because real leaders wouldn't be in that position anyways.
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I actually have, I think I have a, something here, Andrew, unless you want to have a bit
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Well, I mean, I'll just, I'll just finish it with this.
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So, the insertion of the hypothetical is to test the logic, right?
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So, if you're asking who's the primary victim of war, if we just reversed it and said, well,
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women go to war instead of men, and you say that women then would be the primary victims
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of war, then it should stand to logic that if you reversed it so men went, that men would
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I understand what you're saying, but no, because my argument is that because, go ahead, Ryan.
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And, Andrew, I want you to let me know if you think this is a little smoking gun.
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I asked you a question earlier, and I think I asked, would you rather be essayed or killed,
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I think I know where you're going with this, but.
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So, if you were to be essayed, are you the primary victim, or is your husband the primary
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Because he has to deal with you dealing with that trauma.
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Those are two different scenarios because both people are still alive.
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They're two different scenarios, but in good faith, are you the primary victim or is he?
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When I asked you the question, my understanding is you categorized this, death is worse than
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I've been sexually assaulted, so I'm okay with that.
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But, so, you said that death is worse than essay.
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It's just, I already done it, so I'm alive right now.
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That's what I'm saying, because you wouldn't want to.
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Okay, so if presented with the choice between essay or death, if you had never been essayed,
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So then, if that's the case, under those conditionals, then you're saying that death is worse, and
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if women are the primary victims of war, based around the fact that they could potentially
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be essayed, and death is worse, and more men die than women, then it would stand to reason,
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then, that men were the primary victims of war.
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The fact that the men are dying is affecting and having a domino effect on the women and the
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They are victims, but I don't believe that the primary, because they're dead, and it
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sucks, but now the people that are living with the consequences are the women and the
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Abandon, would you choose abandonment or choose death?
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Would you choose poor economic conditions, or would you choose death?
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Well, then, under all circumstances which you have stated, that the domino effect would
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fall on the women and children, then this means that men who die in war still have it
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Therefore, we can conclude that men have it worse than women when it comes to war, correct?
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Brian, I felt bad for you Sunday as you were clearly tired as hell glad you're in better
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Also, I want to see foot fetish lady back when she has more sleep.
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Is it sexist for men to be scared of women to be seen women can falsely accuse men of
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Is it sexist for men to be scared of women because women can fall?
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Brian, how do you have the nerve to humiliate Noel with Andrew for nine facking hours and
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then expecting her not talking shit about you and even praising you?
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You and Andrew talk shit about Bevo and Wes still.
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Props to everyone on this panel other than Brian.
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Most TikTok brain 304s give up after six hours.
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Brian seems intent on torturing the viewers as long as possible.
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But did you hear about the new bill going through the house to replace the wartime draft with
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Instead of having to register for the Selective Service, they're just automatically in the
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Oh, he's not even, he's not even there to receive it.
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Okay, we'll do, is Woe Grandma still doing her shit?
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Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever drops to follow, drops to Prime sub.
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This, and then I'm going to do my shout-outs, and then we're going to.
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While I don't agree with her base statement, I agree men would be less negatively impacted
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if they lost a wife in war than a woman who lost her husband.
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Yeah, but that doesn't actually logically follow.
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No, it doesn't because I asked about the conditional.
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It's because I asked the conditionals of the domino effect, and if the conditionals of the domino effect are the same,
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I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you both a call to action.
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Oh, well, I have to wait until I have a husband, and I have all my needs met.
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I think this is one of our longest streams ever, so you should feel a sense of pride to have been part of the longest whatever stream ever.
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Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out if you're watching on YouTube.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
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You guys are super generous, and, you know, we're like, the vast majority of our streams get the yellow YouTube demonetization icon.
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You know, we're talking about some crazy shit on here.
08:45:24.240
Madison's just dropping the R-bomb, like, all the time, you know, so, yeah.
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So, we will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
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She'll be on, I think, doubling up Sunday, Tuesday.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out, whatever.
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On Instagram, if you can make it to Santa Barbara, I'm going to do a quick Twitch raid.
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Yeah, he's just fucking being a fucking goblin.
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So, let me just, if you want, get a last-minute TTS in.
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Joker D is being a little goblin, so I'm not sure what's going on there.
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I think I'm getting it for you here in just a sec, man.
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So, if you can go over there, just tell him, like, yo, hop on the whatever podcast.
08:47:38.780
So, tell him that he needs to come on the whatever podcast.
08:48:05.460
Guys, we're going to do have Madison start a Twitch stream.
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Like, it's like Super Auto Pets, kind of, but...
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Those of you on YouTube, I'm going to send you guys to Andrew.
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He deserves 100K more than any other YouTuber I can think of.
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With that said, I hope you guys have a very good night.
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Tell him to shave his arm and show us his dummy.
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And I think he Educated in the Institute of Island.