UNHINGED FERAL GIRL ATTACKS ANDREW？! Gets KICKED OUT! HATER Marxist Feminist STORMS OUT？! ｜ Dating Talk #234
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Summary
On this week's episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we talk about the latest in the crypto-dividend space, including a new "Pickle Jar Challenge" challenge and a new way to pop a bottle of Champagne. We also discuss the latest Trump tweet, and whether or not it's a good or bad thing.
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is. There's the clips channels. Okay. So without further ado, we're going to have the guests
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introduced themselves. So please. Oh, actually, one more announcement. One more.
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Can you pull up the photo of Andrew Wilson, please? Pull that photo up. So Andrew did a
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debate yesterday with our other panelist here, Kenzie. And so Andrew, if you don't know, here's
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some Andrew Wilson lore and some whatever lore at this point. He does not like pineapples,
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and he definitely doesn't like them on his pizza. Now, through years of advocation,
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convinced him rather willingly to consume a piece of pineapple pizza. And so what we're
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going to double down on this for tonight, though. So we have a goal. If you guys see
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in the YouTube chat, you guys have a bit less than three hours to achieve this goal. If you
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guys sent in 50 or more, well, minimum 50 yellow super chats, so that's going to be $9.99 and
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above $10 super, $10 super chats, 50 of those, we will do a pineapple pizza party plus row session.
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eat another slice of pineapple pizza. That's that's the goal. So
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by the way, in this glorious moment where this happened, I made sure that Brian wasn't paying
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attention. So he didn't actually get to see it live, which upset him greatly, but made me very
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happy. Greatly upset. You deprived me of you deprived. So this is this is round two. This is
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my retribution, I guess, for for the deprivation of of that anyways. Okay, so we're gonna have the
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guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where are you where
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you're from? And education? Go ahead. Hi, my name is Jen Stone. I am 37. I'm from Houston, Texas. My
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occupation is I do event bartending and I'm getting into owning Airbnbs and education. I didn't finish
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college. Okay, and you said you're 37? Yeah. Yeah. And sorry, I mind you're from where again? Houston,
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Texas. Houston, Texas. And you grew up there or are you living there now? Yeah, I don't know. From Texas.
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I live in Austin now. But yeah, from Houston. Okay, perfect. All right. What about you?
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My name is Kenzie. I am 38. I am a feminist TikTok creator from Montana. And I also dropped out of
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college. And you describe yourself as a proletariat intersectional feminist. What is that? What is
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proletariat intersectional feminist? Well, proletariat is essentially a classification under Marxism
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of the working class. So Marxist feminist is a critique of feminism through capitalism also being
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an oppressive system towards women. Intersectional feminist is essentially a critique of your experience
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under oppressive systems based on aspects of your identity, whether that's age, race, ethnicity,
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disability, disability, so on and so forth. Okay. I'm Andrea. I work at a medical clinic as a doctor's
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assistant. And I got my BA in psychology. Age? I'm 23. What university did you go to? UC Merced.
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UC Merced. Okay. And you said BA in psychology? Yes. All right. What about you?
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I'm Priscilla. I'm 31. Okay. And I do massage and I also do comedy. And I want to thank every single
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one of you that followed me at Priscilla Goose. Where are you from? And then at kind of like
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first Long Beach and then I'm like a small town northeast of Bakersfield. Okay. All right. What
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about you? Hi, I'm T, like the type you drink. And I am from San Diego, but I live in LA now.
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I am a CNA and content creator. I am a promo model. And I'm 21. Was that all of them?
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What kind of content do you do? It's promo modeling content and behind the scenes of the
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modeling stuff that I do. And I currently work with a dealership, Hawthorne Auto Square. And I just
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go like two, three times a month and I'll film videos with the Benzes and all that stuff. So
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that's pretty much what I do. Education? Did you do any college? No, I just got like certified to be a
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nurse's assistant. Okay. All right. What about you? My name is Sarah. I am 33. I am from Mount
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Dora, Florida, but I was born in Monterey, California, and I live in LA now. And I am a
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registered nurse and I have my doctorate in nursing. So a doctorate in practice. Okay. So is there a
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master's comes first for nursing or do you skip to the doctorate? You can go from bachelor's to
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doctorate and it's a nurse practitioner degree. Gotcha. Okay. Very cool. What about you?
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Hey, y'all. I'm Ashley. I am 21. I'm from the outskirts of Houston, Texas, born and raised.
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I played college softball the last two years in Florida and transferred to USF. So I'm in Tampa at
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the moment. All right. Welcome. What about you? I am Andrew Wilson, the host of the Crucible. It's a
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popular entertainment channel on YouTube. I'm a political analyst, political satirist, and I do
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debates all over the world with various people and conversations. And by the way, I am 41. I know
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that the just turned by the way, but I know the Crucible crew is watching and I haven't had anything
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to drink today, which means champagne pops are in order because I'm back at the whatever studio in
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person. Nice to see Brian Atlas again. He put on, uh, put together a huge swath of debates for us.
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So let's make sure we support this channel. Speaking of which Andrew, uh, we have, I think
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three, four shows. I must report unfortunate news to you, Andrew for tomorrow. The, uh, individual in
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question coward because she saw your debate with Kenzie and she knew she didn't say this, but I knew
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that she saw your prowess and she pulled out claiming that she did not want to debate you
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because despite the debate being incredibly respectful, uh, and very long too. And for it
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to maintain that level of respect for so long, uh, I'm surprised that she, she just said you
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were just too much, which is why. I mean, admitting you, you rape your wife is. Oh my God,
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bro. Did you not? Grape. Are you really gonna just do this? Oh, sorry. You do TikTok streams.
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Hello? I know. I'm sorry. We went over it yesterday. We went over it before the show today. So I think
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and also that's like incredibly like a total buzzkill thing to say at the beginning, beginning of the
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stream, like to say, hold on, hold on, hold on. So we have other panelists here. I think it's
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incredibly disingenuous to, to just say that he grapes his wife without, without providing the, the
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fuller context of that conversation. Mind you, mind you, you must've missed the part where Rachel
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was continuously chiming in through the show where she has consent. She's consented to like,
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she wakes him up with certain acts. He wakes her up with certain acts. You want to, you want to
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insert, you want to insert a buzzword to try to paint this man as a fucking predator and a criminal.
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And I think that's absolutely despicable, especially at the start of a fucking dating discussion show.
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I'd like you to apologize to Andrew. I apologize for my language. No, it's not your language.
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I want to, I want you to apologize for your mischaracterization because categorically,
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Well, yeah. Categorically, that's not what he is. But here's the thing.
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I saw it and I don't think you were graping your wife.
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No. Well, no. Right. So, so this is the problem is like you can just definitionally. So women
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named Kinsey who drink water are grapists. By that definition, aren't you a grapist? Yes. Right.
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So that's what you do. You use, you definitionally will say, oh, yo, you and every other normal
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American married couple on planet earth will oftentimes wake each other up with sex.
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It's grape. It's like, it's the most ridiculous thing anybody's ever, they were laughing at you
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because it's so ridiculous. I don't think it's ridiculous that one aspect of engaging with
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someone when you're having sex is that they're conscious. Oh, anybody, anybody here? I mean,
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that's just absolutely ridiculous. Ever, ever, ever, ever been in a couple relationship where
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one of you woke the other one up with sex? Anyone? No? Just me and you? That's it? Wow. I ask.
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I ask. It's good to make sure. Yeah. Like if you're married to the other person.
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Before you do that. Why, why do you want them to be unconscious? I mean, I don't like,
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I, you know, my wake, I'm not literally, I don't have the, you know, device that puts it in. But I
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like, you know, wake them up in ways to suggest that I want it. And then they're always. To suggest
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that you want it or you actually are like forcing penetration while they're unconscious? No, I'm not
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doing that. I'm not doing that. That'd be pretty hard. I mean, you would have to have a lot of intent
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to. Seems like she walked it back. No, I mean, most people in, most people in those situations,
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there's like groping and stuff. They don't usually put it straight on in when they, I don't know how
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to explain it. That's what I was thinking. So they, so wait, they just, they only essay you while
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you're asleep then. They don't. If it's in her, if it's in her definition of essay. Are they just
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grabbing a booze? No, you can't, like, I don't personally, my boundaries in a relationship, I'm
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okay with that. If someone is not okay with that, then it is essay and grape, you know? So I'll
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explain it like this, I guess, really simply. If you have given consent to your girlfriend, hey babe,
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would, I would like you to, and I will allow you to wake me up with a BJ. Her position is that that
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woman has just now committed a felony. Would you guys agree that she should be then arrested and
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placed? I mean, she doesn't believe in prison. Should she then be placed in prison? My, a girlfriend,
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you, your boyfriend says, hey babe, I'd like you to wake me up with a BJ. You fully have my consent.
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She thinks that that's essay. She thinks that that's a felony.
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I don't agree with that. No, let's let the panel answer. I can see where she's coming
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from, like. How, are you serious? No, I'm not serious. I can see what she's trying to say,
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like, she would want, like, her partner to be awake or her be awake before, like, having
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sex. Well, that's fine if that's her standard for her relationship. Do you think consent should
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be reversible? But it's, it's, it's not rape. It can't. If they say no and they keep going,
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that is rape. So you're saying, if I tell my girlfriend. I'm just asking, do you think
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an aspect of consent is that it's reversible? So are you saying that if I tell. How can you
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reverse it if you're unconscious? If he's doing it and you wake up and you don't want to,
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then just be like, I don't feel like it and have him stop. It's that simple. I mean, imagine,
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like, imagine you wake up and your boyfriend is having sex with you. I don't think it starts
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like that. I think he would wake up. That for me would feel very. I don't have to imagine
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it. I do it all the time. I think it's, I think it's funny. I don't think you would
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sleep through that unless you're on drugs. Why, why do you conveniently omit and exclude
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the portion where there has been a consent given? Why, why are you not answering my question
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when it comes to, should consent be revocable? I know I don't have the mute button like you
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do on your bullshit TikToks, but I'm the host. So you're going to answer my question. Go ahead.
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So in the same way that you bully people in your TikToks, you're going to answer my question. Go
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ahead. I'm answering your question. Usually when you ask a question, you stop talking so someone
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can answer it. Go ahead. Great. So when we look at aspects of consent, I don't think it's just based
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on being, agreeing to an action. There are other aspects of consent when it comes to sex. And one of
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it is that consent is reversible. If you're unconscious, you can't reverse your consent.
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What about a will? What about will? A will. Can somebody will you their stuff?
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Yes. I don't understand. They're not conscious. What about their consent? We're talking about
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consent when it comes to sex. Obviously there are going to be different standards when it comes to
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different aspects that you're agreeing to. Like even medical procedures require an aspect of
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informed consent. Sex has different aspects of consent. Contracts have different aspects.
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Yeah. How do you give somebody the ability to make medical decisions for you?
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I mean, if you're a power of attorney. Yeah. So then you're agreeing that this person,
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when you're not conscious, can do things with your body. Sure.
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Why can't you do that with your wife when it comes to sex?
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When it comes to medical procedures, yes. Why can't you do that?
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When it comes to sex, because I just believe that you have to have that aspect of it being
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reversible. Totally inconsistent. How is it that a person can be unconscious on a table?
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Again, there are different standards when it comes to different aspects.
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Well, I know that there's different standards, but in order to be consistent, if the one standard
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There doesn't have to be consistent standards for every single situation.
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Oh, so you just have inconsistent standards. That's what you're saying?
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Well, yes, I do think sex has certain conditions that should be, should be required.
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Being reversible is, is unreasonable or being conscious.
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Reversible would be, she wakes up after she gave you consent and then says, stop. That
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Well, she's not conscious. She doesn't have the capacity to reverse.
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She already gave you the consent. Just like, you're going to wake up during sex unless
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So imagine if you're having sex while you're drunk and then you pass out in the middle.
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No, yeah. Being unconscious, like, after you're drinking.
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That's different. That's like a whole different, like, scenario. Like, if you're being woken up.
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No, it's not. You've already gotten consent. I just don't know why it's such a crazy take
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that when you're having sex with a partner that they're conscious.
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Being drunk, being, like, too drunk and you pass out, that's just different from, like...
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And you reach over when you're spooning her and you just grab a handful of the chest.
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I think when we're talking about essay within this specific context, like...
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She was talking about the one act of putting something in while the other person is unconscious.
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Again, I think there can be differences between, like, unwanted touches or unwanted affection
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versus engaging in sex when your partner's unconscious.
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Doesn't a woman need to consent before I grab her chest?
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When you're in a committed relationship, I do think that there can be aspects of, like,
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Do you think someone being groped and someone being graped are equal in terms of trauma?
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Do you think from an intersectional viewpoint that all traumas...
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From an intersectional viewpoint, all traumas are not equal.
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Since all traumas are not equal, a poor woman who's getting her chest grabbed can be just
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as traumatized as a woman who's been penetrated.
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I mean, obviously, it would depend on the person.
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But, no, I would say if you are penetrated, that violation of bodily integrity is always
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You can't make a determination from an intersectional standpoint on trauma.
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Trauma for a woman who's been groped can be just as bad as a woman who has been penetrated.
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I would always say the trauma from being penetrated is going to be...
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Well, just because of how different your body is in terms of being violated internally versus
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There's lifelong damage that can come with that.
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So there's not a single woman who's been penetrated who's had less trauma than a woman
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You made the claim that everyone's trauma is going to be...
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It's literally in intersectional literature that trauma...
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You can find it in every university in the United States that teaches feminist classes.
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So in feminist standpoint theory, the claim is made that trauma, you cannot say one trauma
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How could you do intersectionality if you believe that you could just do that arbitrarily?
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So if that's the case, you can't really make the claim.
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This trauma is worse than that trauma because it's going to be dependent on the person.
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But depending on the person, logically, this has to follow.
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One trauma can be worse for them or it can be less worse for them.
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So then you're telling me that, like, let's say a white person, he grows up in, like, horribly
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And there's a black person who grows up and they have kind of a nice middle class lifestyle,
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Do you think that if that black person is called the N-word and that southerner is called the
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C-word, even though clearly, objectively, that white person has a worse standard of living
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than a black person, that that's more or less hurtful for one or the other?
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I mean, obviously, the N-word is going to be worse.
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How could that be worse on the guy who's middle class, though?
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Hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Hey, hey, hey, did you forget the part of the conversation where only one person should
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Granted, she's talking way too much than she should be at this point in the conversation.
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If people are engaged in the conversation, you guys can't be interrupting other people.
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I just want to say, both of you guys, it makes sense.
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Like, if you're in a new relationship, you're not going to go and put anything anywhere it
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And if you're in a married relationship, and you guys both have talked to one another about
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what is appropriate in your relationship, and you've already decided what your boundaries
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Like, I was drunk, and then, yeah, I fell asleep.
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See, I want to know, what part of it do you like?
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Do you like the part right, like, when she doesn't feel it at all?
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Yo, Robert Tanner, really good to see you in the chat, man.
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Can you bring just the cups and the champagne bottle?
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Just give me the whole bag, and I'll figure it out.
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I think you denied champagne because you're prone to interruption, and if you get liquored
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up, you're just going to interrupt a whole bunch.
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Like where each of us get to kind of chime in because that's the-
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Well, that's what I would like before she hijacks the conversation there rather rudely.
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Only one person should be talking at a time regardless of their gender.
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Yeah, regardless of their gender and regardless of their-
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I'm not getting champagne, so I have no incentive.
00:26:58.980
To participate in good faith in the conversation.
00:27:01.060
When this is your second time on the show, I've already went over the rules with you multiple
00:27:04.460
times, you were interrupting Kenzie when she was speaking, you were interrupting them while
00:27:09.180
they're in the midst of a conversation, you reeled her into your disruption too.
00:27:17.960
No, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to let you get away with that.
00:27:21.020
You said, can I add after I told you to be quiet and stop interrupting people?
00:27:32.640
Then they started having a sidebar conversation.
00:27:36.560
After I justly told her to be quiet and let Kenzie finish talking, then she said, can I
00:27:59.320
I don't have an objection to her having done a subsequent, oh, I want to do a follow-up
00:28:10.560
I will talk as much as I'd like pertaining to your interruption.
00:28:40.140
Do you think having power is just paying a bunch of women to hang out with you for several
00:28:55.800
First off, I ain't paying y'all to hang out with me.
00:29:01.120
So I don't know where you're getting that from.
00:29:30.560
If we're talking about SA and women are most, we're the victims mostly of SA, so obviously
00:29:39.560
we're all going to have different things to add so that you can hear our voices because
00:29:46.580
So that we can give you the female perspective.
00:29:57.200
I'm not going to allow you to mischaracterize what happened.
00:30:03.580
Then you two were engaged in what we call a sidebar conversation, which we specifically
00:30:11.720
What do both of you not understand about how to engage in a conversation?
00:30:20.840
If you were actually talking to us, not like on this podcast, is that how you would speak
00:30:38.000
What if I talked to you exactly how you talked to me?
00:30:40.420
Do you always talk the same way in a job occupation that you would outside the job occupation?
00:30:48.060
But there's something to be said of just degrading, just demeaning.
00:30:57.160
I had a shop foreman who was just like the nicest guy you could ever imagine when we were
00:31:03.320
And when he was inside the shop, he would throw tools at me all the time, literally throw
00:31:13.320
But inside of his occupation, right, of course he acts in the capacity of his occupation.
00:31:22.000
Don't you act a certain way in your occupation?
00:31:27.220
Well, I mean, that's good that you've only ever had pleasant occupied jobs, right?
00:31:33.040
Some jobs require a different form of discourse.
00:31:37.940
If somebody murdered your family and you saw the murderer standing right there, would you
00:31:51.440
Your analogies, sometimes they never make sense to me.
00:31:56.620
That's a complete logical failing on your part.
00:32:00.720
I'm trying to understand where this is coming from.
00:32:03.160
Why don't you just answer the question because I'll explain it to you.
00:32:10.080
I will explain my tone to you if you answer my question.
00:32:20.340
If I saw a murderer, if someone murdered my family and they were right there, how would I react?
00:32:26.440
Yeah, would you be pleasant towards them verbally?
00:32:28.360
Would you be like, oh, can I get you, like, a glass of water?
00:32:40.060
I'll explain it to you just as soon as you answer.
00:32:44.280
I'll make you understand, but I'd like you to answer the question first.
00:32:50.140
So they don't need to breathe the air that I'm...
00:33:01.860
Have you ever been in an argument with somebody?
00:33:19.160
Never once in your life somebody has upset you or done something which you determined or you viewed as wrong or a sort of grievance.
00:33:29.300
And you've just always remained 100% tactful and you never got upset and your voice was always perfectly calm?
00:33:46.120
Like, did somebody ever do something harmful or hurtful to you?
00:33:52.360
And have you ever raised your voice at anybody?
00:34:14.260
Because I can see you use cutting wit to cut people down, right?
00:34:29.460
Yeah, but imagine having all of the leverage used against you.
00:34:34.340
So what you're saying, then, is that you do have a defense mechanism that you'll use.
00:34:38.100
Perhaps you don't raise your voice, but you'll use the defense mechanism you have of a cutting
00:35:00.760
Yeah, now you can dictate whose feelings got hurt.
00:35:06.080
I mean, your position is one of misrepresentation.
00:35:28.380
Is whether someone's feelings are hurt or not, can you tread on somebody?
00:35:33.440
Like if, you know, maybe their feelings aren't hurt, but you have aggrieved them in some way.
00:35:42.480
Yeah, we can maybe let her speak for herself on this.
00:35:44.660
I know the sisterhood wants to come in and defend her, but I'm talking to her now.
00:35:53.820
He's just showing different behavior in different contexts.
00:35:57.340
Like thing X could upset you and you would re-behave differently if thing X, if you were dealing with thing X, that's it.
00:36:03.440
So this is just, I guess what I'm trying to get at here.
00:36:08.260
So I think on the sources tab, you can change the split.
00:36:20.280
This is sort of the lack of self-awareness and lack of accountability that a lot of people have.
00:36:25.240
And it seems like there is a trend more so when it comes to women having a lack of accountability.
00:36:30.100
You're just saying, essentially what you're saying is, Brian, you are so rude and so mean and you raise your voice for no reason.
00:36:37.060
And it's just, it completely manifests out of nowhere, out of the ether.
00:36:40.680
However, I would like to, before I actually forward the position that you just completely lack accountability, do you think the fact that I have been a bit stern with you, do you think that you have contributed or done nothing wrong?
00:36:57.180
I would say that it's not like it's coming out of the ether, but I would say it's something within yourself and that it's actually you.
00:37:09.780
Sure, people can have like internally, like be short, short-tempered.
00:37:14.300
Or they can like lose their patience, especially if they've, their patience has been dwindled time and time again.
00:37:22.860
I'll ask the question again, though, since you continue to duck it.
00:37:36.640
What do you, steel man, my position, what do you think I think you did wrong, whether you think I'm wrong or not?
00:38:04.020
How about you just engage in good faith and answer the question?
00:38:08.660
How about you conduct with your, respect begets respect.
00:38:16.260
Did she just say exactly that she needs to respect me first?
00:38:21.260
You, like, how I came in, I was polite, I'm nice, and then I feel like you emotionally explode.
00:38:31.880
Why don't you tilt your mic down once again, please?
00:38:36.740
So do you, do you, you have people I'm, I'm assuming who are close personal friends of yours?
00:38:43.240
Do you have people who are close personal friends with you?
00:38:50.200
Would you be necessary, or would you be upset if you're sitting at a table and somebody called them a grapist in front of thousands of people?
00:39:01.600
I just want you to answer the direct question I'm asking.
00:39:07.680
So then if you were addressing that, and somebody cut in, wouldn't it piss you off?
00:39:17.280
Do you actually want me to answer, or is this rhetorical?
00:39:23.800
This is a panel discussion, and I heard S.A. being discussed.
00:39:30.820
I'm a woman, and I think, okay, I have something to say about this.
00:39:36.420
And also, I want to say that I was just going to add so that the conversation could be over.
00:39:49.440
But the thing is, like, even if that recap is true, I just would like you to answer me.
00:39:54.680
If somebody cut in, right, when that exchange was going on, when somebody called a close
00:39:59.800
personal friend of yours a rapist, wouldn't that piss you off?
00:40:04.980
I think the most reasonable people would piss them off, but okay.
00:40:08.860
You would have to think, what are their intentions?
00:40:14.940
Here, I'll make it, I'm going to have to move it on.
00:40:18.040
I'm going to ask one, I guess, final thing on this, and the whole panel is going to have
00:40:24.200
Did, before the show, when Blake there was giving the pre-show instructions, did he say
00:40:30.280
One person speaking at a time, don't interrupt, no sidebar conversations, which is leaning
00:40:36.240
over to the person next to you and speaking to them.
00:40:44.820
I heard him say that, but I'm saying, I'm trying to understand how.
00:40:49.760
So, I mean, I do see her point that maybe she thought there was a time where she couldn't,
00:40:56.120
like, he also said, be aggressive, make sure you just don't sit there.
00:41:01.160
No, here's what happened, is there was a moment after the initial confrontation that I had
00:41:08.760
with her where she said, now can I ask something?
00:41:11.880
But you guys are conveniently omitting or ignoring the part when you were talking, Kenzie, they
00:41:26.020
How could you ever say that, oh, which one is worse, the N word or fucking cracker?
00:41:33.520
I told you, I told you not to say it in the moment.
00:41:51.980
You're going to pay me for as long as I've been here.
00:41:59.400
You're going to have to handle it afterwards because you know how it is.
00:42:04.040
How dare you say that cracker and the N word are even close to the same.
00:42:19.860
No white person has ever gotten offended as someone saying this.
00:42:32.220
Get off because there are rules for the platforms.
00:42:51.000
Because I'm going to be paid for at least the hour.
00:43:11.660
You sound like you're deaf and you're thinking stupid.
00:43:41.100
How about when you make fun of me, you look at me in my eyes.
00:43:57.880
You don't want to make the other girls feel safe?
00:44:11.000
You guys are disgusting, misogynistic, tiny, little, dicked men.
00:44:46.500
It was very early on for this sort of thing, right?
00:45:10.520
When he could, we could have just started talking about something else.
00:45:14.920
And this is her second time, so she went through a four.
00:45:19.720
If I had known she was going to be out of four.
00:45:49.400
Y'all haven't even got to introduce yourselves yet.
00:46:17.420
And I little key thought they were friends because she asked to wear his jacket earlier.
00:46:25.280
I think they are, and they had a talk before, too.
00:46:35.560
I'm surprised y'all let her on again after what I saw.
00:47:40.640
Can you guys tell me, was the camera catching all that?
00:47:51.400
That was, we're waiting for, I'm getting, oh, by the way, guys, discord.gg slash whatever.
00:47:58.280
I'm going to be posting, there was a bunch of, she was slaying in insults back there.
00:48:03.240
I'm going to be posting all of that on the discord, our BTS tab, behind the scenes tab.
00:48:13.280
If you guys want to see the behind the scenes of all that, I'm going to.
00:48:20.160
If you want to see the behind the scenes of all of that, I'm going to be posting it to our discord on the behind the scenes tab.
00:48:29.240
But, well, that's a good way to get the adrenaline pumping there.
00:48:54.780
Or do you think she was completely justified in her conduct and behavior?
00:49:00.740
Do you see what, but you said context doesn't matter.
00:49:06.720
You had a quarrel with me yesterday, and we're not going to linger on this long, that I had had to kick another girl out.
00:49:24.000
And she was in contravention of multiple of our rules.
00:49:33.220
She actually technically, that was a physical assault.
00:49:45.040
I don't think she battered you, but her getting in your face like that, you would have been well within your right to strike her back.
00:49:54.000
Pineapple people and now pineapple pizza and now this, Brian.
00:49:58.000
What else am I supposed to deal with on this show?
00:50:26.340
And if she accidentally said the word, whether she knew it or not, all she had to do is apologize.
00:50:31.120
But according to you, or like, it sounds like she knew what she was saying.
00:50:35.600
You gave them multiple chances and the rules were explained before the show and they were broken.
00:50:40.040
Well, when she dove in with the F slur, it was pretty much over.
00:50:49.700
I think we're going to just scoot everybody down a chair.
00:50:53.640
So if you guys want to just scoot down one chair, you can bring your drinks with you.
00:50:57.280
What if we did it the other way since she's in the corner?
00:51:20.500
Because she said she got a bad back or something.
00:51:49.160
I'm not sure the stream labs, though, is not working.
00:52:22.520
Guys, can we get some W's in the chat for Robert Tanner here?
00:52:25.020
Single-handedly supporting the show after that fucking craziness.
00:52:31.880
Although I want to thank Andrea over here halfway, partially.
00:52:37.460
Andrea, you were, I suppose, were somewhat helpful in assisting her to leave.
00:52:42.700
But it's interesting to me, the sisterhood on this.
00:52:47.400
It seems like a woman could do pretty much no wrong in situations like this.
00:52:51.160
And the sisterhood, women will always have each other's backs.
00:52:53.920
As you were escorting her out, you said something along the lines of, I understand.
00:53:03.080
That doesn't seem like a great thing to say to somebody who said like a homophobic slur and said an anti-white slur.
00:53:10.200
Although, given your position when it comes to white people, maybe I'm not surprised that you sided with the person who dropped a slur against white people and a slur against gay people.
00:53:21.040
She might have dropped, I don't know if she did.
00:53:39.680
No, I did not say I understand that she said that.
00:53:46.040
But I understand why she got upset because he was giving her attitude and it was just negative energy back and forth.
00:53:53.320
So I understand why it escalated, but I don't understand like why she was saying that.
00:53:58.980
I think the females were just trying to de-escalate the situation and he was trying to escalate the situation.
00:54:08.260
It didn't get caught on camera, but I just popped it.
00:54:29.100
I'm saying after it went crazy, the women were really sticking up for her.
00:54:34.420
You heard me say, oh, I understand why you said all those slurs.
00:54:38.900
No, but you were being like, oh, I get it because they're jerks and blah, blah, blah.
00:54:42.680
You were like, you were egging her on and you're basically telling her her conduct was acceptable and correct.
00:54:51.140
I just want to say that the statement I made is that you said you were a grapist on our debate.
00:55:01.460
I said, well, I could see maybe why she doesn't want to participate.
00:55:15.680
I don't agree that her actions should have got, you know, to that point.
00:55:20.300
But, you know, I do understand that, like, why it got to that point.
00:55:27.300
Do you understand why she walked over here and threatened Andrew with physical violence?
00:55:34.720
Would you like to explain, like, how you understand that?
00:55:37.520
Like, for example, let's say a woman is nagging and her husband's really frustrated by that.
00:55:45.120
Would you say to him that you understand why he smacked her across the face?
00:55:55.080
Why is no girl here, like, actually saying, wow, that's despicable that she went over here
00:56:00.640
and got in his face and literally assaulted him.
00:56:09.480
Did she have me say, I don't agree that she did that?
00:56:14.660
I mean, I tried to diffuse so that there wouldn't be a result.
00:56:17.920
I've been laughing and saying shit this whole time.
00:56:21.760
If there was a man who came across the table and got in a woman's face, would you expect
00:56:42.100
So if a man gets in my face, I can just knock him out.
00:56:45.440
If any guy got in my face like that, I would have just hit him.
00:56:49.260
Well, not just that she's smaller than me, but that there's going to be repercussions,
00:56:54.980
If I did do that, right, it gets in my face, I can't really do anything except turn my
00:56:59.000
head away or walk away to de-escalate it, right?
00:57:02.640
So I'm literally at your mercy where any of you could have stood up and been like,
00:57:12.400
Which is exactly what would be expected if it was a man, because you'd be under physical
00:57:19.140
You're not under duress when you're going like this.
00:57:25.080
If you were really at duress, I'm pretty sure we would have stood in.
00:57:27.640
Would it have mattered what the woman did if the man was in his face?
00:57:38.260
Because I just don't want to be included in the sisterhood of agreement with that behavior,
00:57:46.140
I don't think anyone is agreeing with her behavior.
00:57:49.440
I think that that was a good example of someone who lacks behavioral regulation and emotional
00:58:14.540
Defending yourself and literally just being like, get away from me.
00:58:19.460
When somebody attacks you, right, you have two choices.
00:58:24.780
So someone comes at me and then just, for example, I'd be like, oh, shut your fat ass
00:58:33.600
So if someone came to me and they're yelling at me for me to defend myself, I'm going to
00:58:50.020
I could have said something way completely different.
00:58:52.660
Does that give them a right to physically get two-zone to you?
00:58:55.200
But you defend yourself with those kind of words is just going to escalate more, which
00:59:04.260
Don't tear it off if you can't handle it, right?
00:59:06.880
So the thing is, if you're going to get in someone's face and you hit them, you should
00:59:12.380
If you're going to insult somebody, you should expect to get insulted back.
00:59:17.900
So you think, oh, let me add this on and it'll make the situation better.
00:59:30.640
And if a man got in your face, even if you were being obnoxious to him, wouldn't you
00:59:38.440
So it wouldn't even matter if you had escalated it, you'd still expect it.
00:59:41.320
I was, I was going towards her more to, you know, deescalate the situation is because
00:59:46.360
you're, you're a man, you're bigger than her, you're stronger than her.
00:59:49.560
I don't need to defend you really because nothing's going to happen.
00:59:53.280
I'd rather stop her from doing anything, calm her down.
00:59:54.700
Well, no, if I, if I did, if I physically did anything, I'm the one who's going to get
01:00:03.420
You don't need to, oh, she gets, she's like yelling in my face a little bit.
01:00:11.160
If a man got in your face and somebody thought.
01:00:18.700
But do you understand that the consequences can be identical?
01:00:21.280
Like police officers come in here, beat the shit out of me, drag my ass off to jail
01:00:29.500
So we depend on women also to, to push women back away.
01:00:38.280
You know, like a woman is not going to really hurt you unless she has like, I mean, they
01:00:44.560
That she couldn't grab this bottle and hit me with it.
01:00:46.920
She was literally looking for things to hit me with.
01:00:53.440
And I will say, Andrew, I would have taken your side at that point.
01:01:05.300
I do want to say, I do appreciate you walking away.
01:01:07.820
If we, if we weren't like protecting you, no one would have got up.
01:01:21.580
You had to protect him or were you trying to protect her?
01:01:26.100
Oh, standing up and saying don't is not protecting someone.
01:01:32.940
So I just want to make sure that if you were mouthing off.
01:01:36.180
If a guy, if a guy called you an insult and you called him an insult back.
01:01:43.820
I'm just asking the question that if a, if a man was being insulting to you and then
01:01:48.180
you insulted him back and then he walked over and got in your face and looked like
01:01:53.400
he's physically going to do something, would you expect me and Brian to do something about
01:02:25.680
Do you expect me and Brian to do something about that?
01:02:29.700
If you're doing this and laughing while she's there, it doesn't seem like you want anybody
01:02:36.800
So if you, right, just kind of laughed at it, what are y'all, what else are you going to
01:02:44.680
Well, if you were taking it seriously, then maybe we would have taken it more seriously.
01:02:49.560
You could tell when a woman is scared when a man is trying to flirt with her or be aggressive.
01:02:57.440
So why would, I was laughing because it was, you know, like why would, first of all, I
01:03:02.120
can't get over there, but they did get up once she was threatening you.
01:03:08.240
I mean, I didn't want to like start physically restraining anybody.
01:03:15.120
Like I said, you know, I do appreciate you walking away as an attempt to defuse the situation
01:03:25.720
That was, I don't know if we did a salute, salute, cheers to Robert Tanner for the.
01:03:34.100
Cheers to Robert Tanner for the, you know what?
01:03:43.720
I'm going to let a couple of chats come through just because we need to get those.
01:03:52.740
But Andrew, if two people are drunk having that, are they simultaneously unable to consent
01:04:17.180
Hey, fake comedian, please stop speaking for everyone.
01:04:21.360
Also, there's zero cognitive reasoning with any of them except maybe Chair 1.
01:04:26.900
Chair 2 hides behind the facade of false intelligence.
01:04:58.440
I say appeal the 19th and women should only speak when spoken to.
01:05:04.360
Yeah, look, I'll just finish it on this and then we'll actually get into the show.
01:05:09.760
Look, before the show, we went over some roles.
01:05:15.820
Well, she was on the show last week and then she's been on the show before.
01:05:21.460
Sometimes I give a bit more leeway to people who are new to the show.
01:05:25.700
She's heard those instructions that were given to her at least two other times, three other times, something like that.
01:05:39.540
The reason I was trying to get her to actually be like, hey, tell me what you did wrong is so that we could have a smooth stream and carry on with the stream.
01:05:48.240
And so she could stop doing that because if I didn't get her to actually make a concession that she was interrupting, then she would just continue to be acting in the way that she was not prepared to take any accountability for.
01:05:59.700
I can't have a productive stream if people are interrupting each other, talking over each other.
01:06:06.980
She just wasn't having it instead of just being like, you know what?
01:06:20.400
And then I said, look, if you can't follow the rules, you're going to have to leave.
01:06:26.760
If she was on a certain other podcast, she would have been gone much quicker than here.
01:06:32.800
I tried to tell her what she was doing wrong so she could correct it.
01:06:39.260
And then after when the predictable kick was coming based off of her conduct, after I warned her, then she was like, okay, well, let me just try to maliciously sabotage your show by saying these things are not appropriate for the platforms.
01:06:57.940
Andrew, if you were so inclined, you could probably like call the police.
01:07:07.160
So before, where I was getting to, we haven't even got into relationship status.
01:07:14.300
I was about to say that the debate partner that you have for tomorrow, Andrew, she has canceled.
01:07:42.240
Blake, I'm going to have you pull up the window tab, but make sure not to show the Instagram.
01:07:52.800
Andrew, I don't know if you recall this woman here.
01:08:02.540
Now, mind you, Andrew, he flies out here at time and expense.
01:08:12.140
So, this is the second time she's kind of done this.
01:08:14.580
At this point, I have to assume it's malicious.
01:08:27.200
There's a legal principle called detrimental reliance.
01:08:30.380
If you rely on a promise of somebody else and it detriments you in some way, you have a claim.
01:08:38.220
So, I'm actually going to file a lawsuit against this girl because it's just I can't have people doing this to Andrew.
01:08:45.940
Oh, and the reason was, which, mind you, she was already aware.
01:08:51.900
She was like, oh, I don't like his, like, political leanings and, like, his positions.
01:08:55.200
I'm like, you were aware of that before we booked you.
01:09:05.660
In any case, so I am going to file a lawsuit against her.
01:09:08.860
And just because I can't have people fucking over Andrew like this, can't have people fucking over the podcast.
01:09:17.540
It's incredibly disrespectful and rude to us, to Andrew.
01:09:22.040
So, I have to do something like, hey, if you're going to fuck with us and troll and take up a booking, I'm just going to file a lawsuit against you.
01:09:29.580
So, anyways, so that was the update before we got into the whole waking up with that sort of –
01:09:41.920
Most people do not tolerate the amount of disrespect women give him.
01:09:48.240
Yeah, I mean, dealing with somebody like that, my patience is going to be pretty limited.
01:09:52.620
But I like to think I gave her some opportunities to try to correct course because my – instead of just kicking somebody off, I'm like, here's what you're doing wrong.
01:10:05.100
And if you can't help me out and be like, you know what?
01:10:11.360
But if you're just going to be antagonistic like she is, she's going to get the kick.
01:10:16.220
So, don't like to have to kick people, but it is what it is.
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Chromo Jones gifted – I don't know if this already came up.
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Kaibaka, thank you for the – Chromo Jones, thank you for the gifted 10.
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Also, guys, if you are enjoying the stream, kindly – oops – kindly like the video, please.
01:10:41.540
I'm pretty confident that my wife is probably freaking the fuck out and wanting to come down here and probably beat a woman up.
01:10:46.780
So, I'm just going to go make a quick call, and I'll be right back.
01:10:50.080
Does she want to do a call-in tonight, like a cameo?
01:11:03.220
And if you want 100% of your contribution to go to the podcast, YouTube takes 30%.
01:11:14.940
You can do it via Venmo, Cash App, whatever pod.
01:11:22.040
But before you do, put it on the behind-the-scenes tab.
01:11:25.960
So, I – those of you, some of you just tuning in, we had to kick a girl off.
01:11:30.440
She's being – behind the scenes, she's being just completely obnoxious.
01:11:36.680
So, can you X out that white – or the yellow bar up there?
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So, I'm going to post the behind-the-scenes of the madness that just ensued on Discord.gg slash whatever.
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I think she said that she hopes that I'd never – what did she say?
01:12:05.000
Hopes that I'd never have a wife or girlfriend and get her pregnant or something.
01:12:13.660
So, if you want to see that fucking insanity, I'm going to post at Discord.gg slash whatever.
01:12:19.700
We have a couple other chats that I'm going to read.
01:12:21.340
Then we're going to actually get into the show.
01:12:25.360
Andrew, this isn't a house fire or an emergency.
01:12:28.420
Double standards haven't been paused for effect yet.
01:12:36.040
I'll pull it back up, though, when Andrew is back.
01:12:40.940
Here, I'll do – here before – wait, let me read these first.
01:12:45.120
Lucas, just in case there were any lingering doubts about whether modern-day women automatically deserve chivalry by default,
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I think that earlier incident all but wrapped up that debate in a little bow.
01:12:58.640
That girl's been on the show before, and she was like, oh, yeah, men should pay for first dates.
01:13:08.260
Okay, we have – but, Lucas, that's a very good observation.
01:13:11.580
Walf, the day Andrew graced their podcast was the most important day of their lives.
01:13:39.460
This is just to help you, Brian, and Andrew out.
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Also, if Rachel wants to do a call in off of this –
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I'm going to – guys, I'm going to get – I know the panel's kind of antsy to get to the actual content of the show.
01:14:02.820
We're going to pop this bottle, and then we're going to get right into the actual show.
01:14:15.440
I just have to say I didn't expect to get buzzed before we even start anything, but thank you.
01:14:29.200
Hitting Women podcast, defending yourself against women is like defending yourself against children.
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I don't know if you're in – I don't know if you're in favor of men defending themselves or against it.
01:14:56.280
I didn't allow her to have champagne initially, but now she's like, no.
01:15:09.900
I mean, I appreciate the offer if you want me to say – if you want to thank you.
01:15:18.120
So you were upset that she called Andrew a grapist and that, you know, she made his image look bad in front of thousands of people.
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But then right now you were saying that, oh, I heard you say that you understand what the slurs that she was calling us – you said that earlier.
01:15:35.980
You said that you understand the slurs that she was saying, why she was saying these slurs when I didn't say I understand.
01:15:43.440
If somebody on this side is talking, just switch it over, okay?
01:15:45.920
And I'm saying I told you that I did not agree with the slurs that she was calling you or saying on the podcast.
01:15:52.000
But then you're trying to make it seem that, you know, in front of this podcast, in front of thousands of people, that I am okay with that and that I do agree that she was saying that.
01:16:02.020
Why would you make me look bad like that when you didn't want him to look bad?
01:16:06.300
Like, why did you think that was bad but not you making me look like that was bad?
01:16:11.540
So the first part is I don't have the same level of rapport with you that I have with Andrew.
01:16:20.360
I'm going to come to the defense of a friend quicker than a total stranger who's actually an op, an opposition.
01:16:25.920
Secondly, I think her – me saying that you agreed with the statement that she said is not on the same level of egregiousness as her calling him a literal –
01:16:39.740
Okay, in any case, whatever you did do and whatever my interpretation of it, my interpretation would be is that what she did is more egregious than whatever I did to you by saying that you were, like, kind of backing her and, like, kind of like, yeah, you go, girl.
01:16:58.940
You were like, yeah, you were like, oh, my God, they're such jerks.
01:17:06.980
No, but I don't think you need to be, like, co-signing her conduct.
01:17:13.560
Sometimes you got to be positive to get the problem out the way.
01:17:19.200
I want to move on from the meta conversation, but I don't think it's, like – I don't really think it's a fair comparison to be, like –
01:17:24.920
It's literally just, you know, just treating human beings, you know, like, respectfully.
01:17:29.840
I mean, I'm calling you out for you being, like, a part of the sisterhood, and this is something – this is just a generalized criticism.
01:17:38.000
This is a generalized criticism that I have of women is that there's a tendency to, like, look at bad conduct that other women are doing and just kind of, like – what's the perfect word for it?
01:17:55.800
It's sort of brush it off, but it's a specific –
01:17:59.260
It is condone, but I'm looking for a specific turn of phrase.
01:18:03.320
Sort of, like, rug sweep or, like, you kind of just, like –
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Chat, help me out because I'm totally brain fogging here.
01:18:19.200
I just thought that was kind of weird how you were acting like that and then just, like, you could do that towards another person when you're upset that someone else did that.
01:18:26.600
Like, you're upset that someone else can act like that.
01:18:31.600
It's just kind of weird and you're a grown adult, so, like, you kind of – you should know.
01:18:36.440
That's, like, it's common sense to not be like that.
01:18:42.800
A lot of women hand wave other women's poor behavior.
01:18:49.500
I was literally never telling her, like, good job or nothing.
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Yeah, you're like, oh, my God, those guys are so jerks.
01:19:04.380
Like, you roll your eyes like a little child, you know.
01:19:06.760
How was I disrespectful until I was disrespected?
01:19:08.780
I mean, you can disagree with someone but still be respectful.
01:19:13.220
How was I specifically disrespectful until I was disrespected?
01:19:17.940
This is not just, like, for funsies, like, because we're getting paid for it.
01:19:22.360
So, you're going to go to a job place and you don't agree with someone.
01:19:35.500
You guys is plural, meaning two, meaning not just him but also me.
01:19:41.600
When was I disrespectful to anybody until I was disrespected?
01:19:50.420
So, I could have – right now, when you said how when I was talking, I could have been like,
01:19:54.200
hey, let me talk because you guys do that towards us too.
01:20:01.780
How was I disrespectful until I was disrespected is my question again.
01:20:14.320
You have nothing because I was completely respectful to everybody here until she came over and she's
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like, uh-uh, I'm going to give you a piece of my mind before I leave.
01:20:26.080
If you're going to give me a piece of yours, I'm going to give you a piece of mind.
01:20:29.420
But if you're respectful to me, when have I ever not been respectful to anybody here
01:20:33.420
at this table, as we've been sitting here, even one time?
01:20:38.760
You hesitated, or I don't even think you did, like, acknowledge when we said – you said
01:20:46.300
When she said she asked for permission to talk.
01:20:50.940
That's the only time I have thought you were a little –
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I don't have any idea what the hell you're talking about.
01:20:56.020
Like we said, we moved past it, but I said that was the one time.
01:20:58.600
Other than that, I have not seen you be disrespectful.
01:21:01.140
Yeah, who was I – I wasn't disrespectful to anybody, right?
01:21:14.060
Let's just – let's get into the content of the show.
01:21:18.660
Charlie, we did – I think there was a champagne pop that went off while you were gone.
01:21:29.920
I'm getting held responsible for anything you do, Brian.
01:21:35.280
I won't defend you a lot, but tonight, before she escalated it, I don't think you did anything.
01:21:42.260
Totally, totally respectful to everybody until disrespected.
01:21:45.980
By the way, that's the way it always goes, Kinsey.
01:21:49.080
For future reference, when you do your, like, video shit talk reviews, just remember that if you go back far enough, you'll always see that it's not until somebody disrespects me that I'm disrespectful to them.
01:22:05.060
No, I'm just giving it to you for future reference.
01:22:08.220
If you can do, like, your little micro-aggressions, then I can do my micro-aggressions, too.
01:22:23.880
Okay, so, I'm a little lost on some of where we're at with the chats.
01:22:36.160
As a follow-on, I feel sorry for the sucker that takes that raving spawn of hell to the altar.
01:22:40.120
Chair two, my wife laughed so hard that her drink literally came out through her nose listening.
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Continued, to which he continues here in just a moment.
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To your crackpot dissertation on the proprietary of bedroom activity between husband and wife,
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should we each execute a notarized proxy authorizing blanket sexual consent?
01:23:12.420
She hates purity culture, but she's super concerned that you're going to wake your wife up with your dick, bro.
01:23:17.740
Oh, she's so concerned she's going to wake your wife up with sex like almost every other American has done since.
01:23:28.400
She said she wants to call in and talk to Kenzie.
01:23:32.940
She wants Kenzie to call her a great fist to her face.
01:23:38.560
This is perhaps the latest – Brian, straight out the ball.
01:23:43.720
This is perhaps the latest that we're getting through the relationship portion of the show.
01:24:02.000
The thing is that I'm disappointed in the Crucible crew.
01:24:14.160
So going around the table, what is your current relationship status?
01:24:19.300
And if you're single, how long have you been single?
01:24:21.400
And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in, starting with you?
01:24:32.580
So single for about four years and longest relationship four years.
01:24:57.280
Not the whole time, but the majority of it, yes.
01:25:00.200
Um, and in the four years you've been single, have you been dating at all?
01:25:04.880
Has there been something short term, like a couple months, a situationship, anything
01:25:14.320
Um, but mostly I don't date, um, last time I dated was like a year and a half ago.
01:25:22.520
Uh, and, uh, I think in your notes you mentioned that, well, I'll come, I'll come to those
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later pertaining to, uh, like interesting dates and stuff.
01:25:34.520
I've been single for three years and my longest relationship is 11 years.
01:25:47.640
And, uh, how many times, uh, or who initiated the divorce?
01:26:01.060
Have you been dating at all in that time period?
01:26:04.920
Uh, no dating, uh, anything at all, like maybe a short-term fling or anything like that,
01:26:16.800
Um, my longest relationship, I don't know, like a few months.
01:26:36.120
Uh, are you currently dating a guy or seeing a guy?
01:26:40.140
I was kind of seeing someone, but it ended, like, a few weeks ago.
01:27:00.120
The longest relationship where, like, we met our families and stuff was, like, a year.
01:27:02.900
But the longest, like, situationship, like, is four years.
01:27:17.000
But the situationship, which I count as kind of, like, single.
01:27:24.600
But you did have a situationship, which is ongoing?
01:27:34.840
It's not just, like, talking but not committed or how we are.
01:27:41.020
Well, so you can't have a situationship without humping.
01:27:48.640
There's sex going on in most of the ones I hear about.
01:27:54.820
Like, we're both just money chasers and he's in school, so we just got other things to focus
01:28:08.120
My last relationship was three years ago, and my longest relationship was a year.
01:28:20.780
And my understanding is you are, you're Christian, correct?
01:28:42.260
Um, you could throw it in there, but to them it was nothing.
01:28:48.700
So are situationships that, like, you can, can you be exclusive to your situationship?
01:28:59.620
Um, it was, um, someone who I really liked for a long period of time voiced that to them.
01:29:04.780
And I would say, according to them, it was not reciprocated, even though the actions were,
01:29:17.160
Um, let me pull up your notes on this because I have a couple.
01:29:24.180
Um, just recently I went 20 years without dating.
01:29:27.340
Um, but I told myself going into this year I wanted to at least open up to it, um, because
01:29:31.920
nothing will come from anything if I don't give it a try.
01:29:46.680
And, uh, you said in your notes, you never dated anyone nor gone on a date.
01:29:56.920
When you say you don't trust men, what do you mean?
01:29:59.760
Um, so I put it out there pretty early that I'm not into hookups.
01:30:11.380
Um, I know a lot of people are, and I voiced that very early on to talking to someone and
01:30:16.780
I've gotten myself into a lot of situations where I tell them, no, I tell them I'm not
01:30:22.880
And they try to pursue something and I have to get myself out of something that I shouldn't
01:30:27.920
Um, I make it very apparent at the beginning of talking to someone that I'm not going to
01:30:34.780
And they, you know, they still persist and it's just very frustrating.
01:30:38.680
And you, you wrote here, so you've never been on any dates nor gone on a date.
01:30:44.340
You said that in your notes that you lost your virginity at 20.
01:30:50.220
With someone who you said you were very comfortable with and you trusted.
01:30:54.200
Uh, how long, but you, I'm a bit confused because you said you've never dated anyone or gone
01:30:59.020
So I kind of planned on being in a relationship.
01:31:01.960
Um, I have never met anyone who was a virgin, um, at my age and I never felt uncomfortable
01:31:11.700
Like it wasn't a, something that I was ashamed of.
01:31:20.180
And so finding someone who I had a relationship with a really good friend and I felt comfortable
01:31:25.600
with him enough to have that connection with him.
01:31:28.200
Um, and unfortunately I just never went anywhere after that.
01:31:36.860
I've made, like, we waited about two years, um, of being in a friendship and I knew that
01:31:48.220
If you kick under the tripod is right there, man.
01:31:55.060
Yeah, no, I just, I knew it wasn't a sexual thing.
01:31:57.640
I had plenty of people tell me around me that, um, he was just in it to, you know, get it
01:32:03.480
And there were multiple different situations where he actually didn't want to pursue it
01:32:07.600
with me, um, because he didn't want to lose our friendship.
01:32:10.620
Now that I've matured a year later, I kind of look back at it, um, and kind of see some
01:32:16.340
of the manipulation, um, that happened, but I will never regret it.
01:32:21.300
So you were, you were friends with him for two years.
01:32:27.120
And so was there a period of time where prior to you, the guys having hooked up that you
01:32:34.700
had, where it was going in like a more romantic direction or was the hookup, like you guys
01:32:40.120
were always friends and this was like, you did have like a comfort with him and it was
01:32:47.960
Um, no, it was definitely a connection with him.
01:32:51.760
I, he's the first guy I've ever really liked like that.
01:32:56.240
I can count on one hand, like the amount of people that I've liked in my life.
01:33:06.800
And I, he's the first person I've ever been able to open up to, um, and truly, truly,
01:33:13.080
And that's when kind of the gaslighting and manipulation comes in because I thought it
01:33:17.500
would maybe potentially turn into something more before having a sexual relationship with
01:33:21.980
Uh, I had such a good friendship with him that I thought something would come from.
01:33:25.220
So I guess I understand that you guys were friends for the initial part of your, uh,
01:33:31.520
And when I say relationship, that could apply to a friendship or just your relationship with
01:33:36.460
him in totality, including the friendship and the, uh, romantic and sexual component.
01:33:41.100
Um, so I guess how, um, had you guys, did you guys only hook up once?
01:33:50.460
Um, so how, I guess, how long into the friendship did it kind of get more into like a romantic
01:34:02.420
Um, and that's kind of the problem that I have with it is he actually ended up dating
01:34:08.200
someone like in the middle of our kind of connection, I would say.
01:34:13.100
And when I voiced that to him, like, I never talked bad about him.
01:34:21.560
Um, I just wanted him to be happy at the end of the day.
01:34:23.340
And people were talking bad about his name, about the fact that he didn't like me back
01:34:29.840
And he actually got onto me and was like, you're bashing my name.
01:34:33.460
And I'm like, I would never, I would never do that.
01:34:35.600
And I told him, I'm like, we we've kissed before.
01:34:40.940
And he told me that there was nothing there and that he never felt anything.
01:34:44.340
Um, and that basically I was just making it all up in my head.
01:34:58.000
Um, it was, that was about a couple months later, whenever our relationship actually grew
01:35:02.920
as friends from him being, trying to grow a connection with this other person.
01:35:07.600
Um, and yeah, I honestly, I, like I said, I trusted him enough.
01:35:14.820
Um, it was more the moment that I did, I guess, lose my virginity and stuff like that as
01:35:21.960
to come hoping to be in a long-term relationship with someone who I truly love.
01:35:38.960
Like I said, he told me that we would kiss like non, you know, not just like if we were
01:35:44.660
at a bar and we're making out, like we would have those moments together.
01:35:47.040
And he, he later on confessed that he just said it because he didn't want me to like
01:35:58.640
He, he told me like, so beginning he told me that I just made it all up in my head.
01:36:03.640
Then later on, he told me that there was actually something there, but that we could never be
01:36:09.920
So his first excuse was that his family didn't speak English.
01:36:19.460
He, wait, so what was he blaming on his English as a second language status?
01:36:27.040
So he could never date a white girl because I wouldn't be able to have that relationship
01:36:35.080
I thought you were saying there was a, there was like a miscommunication and he blamed it
01:36:44.560
Um, and so you, um, so how long, I mean, did you continue?
01:36:52.740
How long did you continue to see him after the hookup?
01:36:55.760
It was on and off, um, for, I would say a couple months, but I began to realize that
01:37:03.960
Um, and when you say convenient for him, you mean like spending time together when he wanted
01:37:08.980
to, so he would text you at 11 PM on a Friday saying, what are you doing?
01:37:13.600
Um, it was more of like, we went to the gym together.
01:37:20.820
We would, we spent a lot of time together and he was my genuinely like my best friend.
01:37:25.740
It was just kind of, I guess that side of it that we were helping each other out on.
01:37:30.560
Cause I only had one body and I'm keeping it to that.
01:37:33.080
And, um, that was just kind of what that was there for.
01:37:36.280
So you wrote here that, uh, you will, you're going to be waiting until you find your forever
01:37:45.280
Um, I want to be in love with someone knowing that they will be, I, I plan on talking about
01:37:50.920
this because it's so hard to say 100% I would love to wait till marriage.
01:37:57.180
And for my last person to be my forever person, the fact of the matter is if you say that to
01:38:01.980
a guy that you just start talking to and just meeting, it scares them away.
01:38:05.760
I can't voice that enough that I can say straight up how I feel that I want the next person that
01:38:17.860
Um, and you said you only have one body and you plan to keep it that way until you meet
01:38:24.040
Um, I guess my, I guess my confusion here a little bit is it did, it doesn't sound like
01:38:46.560
Um, obviously I do wish that I lasted 20 years and I planted to keep doing that.
01:38:52.100
My purity and, um, you know, where my morals are was not kind of how I acted in it, but
01:38:58.420
I think I still have those in me and I know I still have those in me and I.
01:39:07.720
I mean, the way you talk about it though, you said it sounds like you do regret it.
01:39:10.240
I wish that I wasn't, I'm not going to use the word gaslit.
01:39:14.100
I wish that something would have came from it at least because I did genuinely, I love this
01:39:22.240
But it sounds like he basically always told you it wasn't reciprocal.
01:39:26.900
He later on told me it was, but then that's when the excuses started to come into play of
01:39:34.420
But you hadn't slept with him at that point, right?
01:39:38.700
So the, the term from that to when he said, no, it's never going to become anything to
01:39:45.200
then the later time where you actually did sleep with this guy, what was he saying to
01:39:59.140
Point A is gaslighting, says he can't really be with you, this and that.
01:40:09.660
So then how did you get from, I don't really want this long-term relationship to now I'm
01:40:15.740
So what's odd enough is that the day that we got together, I actually met his family for
01:40:21.440
Um, when I had just turned 20, he sent me a long paragraph about how he doesn't think
01:40:27.220
that it's right for us to do it and that he doesn't want me to catch feelings and that
01:40:32.820
And Bubby, I was already in love with you before, like, we hooked up.
01:40:36.220
Frankly, getting with him did nothing, like, it didn't change where I was with him.
01:40:40.300
So he sent you all this before you hooked up with him?
01:40:42.260
Yeah, this was like months before, this was like three months before we got together.
01:40:47.120
Um, no, not necessarily because he sent me that and that's how I knew that it wasn't
01:40:54.340
Like, he truly wanted to be, we were truly best friends that he liked me for who I was
01:40:59.200
and he would defend me until the end of the day.
01:41:02.600
For, for a man to tell a woman that I don't want to hook up with you because, like, I want
01:41:06.840
to keep our friendship, like, I don't want you to catch feelings for me, all that stuff.
01:41:13.240
I was like, you're not gonna, you know, you're giving, I'm, basically I was here.
01:41:17.600
Like, I had had a little bit to drink that day.
01:41:20.460
I was ready and for him to tell me that, like, no, I don't think we should, I mean,
01:41:29.100
And so, pass forward three months, I drove all the way a couple hours to go pick him
01:41:34.720
up from his family's house, met his family, everything, um, whenever to watch it.
01:41:39.380
I had, I had slept with him, like, before, like, watching movies and stuff like that, but
01:41:43.740
nothing more than, you know, that, um, staying with him, I guess you could say.
01:41:47.240
Um, and so, just, there's been times where I've said, no, I'm not ready, and this time,
01:41:52.920
you know, I was ready, and, because I trusted him so much to have that connection, like, I
01:41:58.540
was embarrassed, like, I'm very self-conscious of myself, who I am as a person, body, all
01:42:02.480
that stuff, and so, I trusted him so much that I was ready to open myself up to him.
01:42:07.440
It still sounds kind of like you were the pursuer, though.
01:42:17.240
I don't want to say, I thought something would come from it.
01:42:20.740
Not that I would hook up with him, and that, oh, he would fall madly in love with me, no.
01:42:24.080
I just had that connection with him, and, like I said, like, I don't regret doing it.
01:42:30.840
I think it was completely mutual, like, because there's been times where I've told him, no,
01:42:38.780
Yeah, right, but if it, so, I guess this is the mindset I'm trying to get.
01:42:42.520
Um, so, multiple times this guy told you, yeah, I really don't want to do this, because
01:42:49.860
if we do, it's going to ruin everything, right?
01:42:53.620
And then when he did, it did ruin everything, right?
01:42:58.860
Um, I've distanced myself, because, as I said, like, I've matured, and I'm ready to open
01:43:02.840
myself up to a future husband in a lifelong relationship.
01:43:06.480
So, after you slept with him, he started dating other people, right?
01:43:09.880
Uh, yeah, he went back with his ex after he, yeah.
01:43:15.140
So, so the thing is, is, I mean, he, he did, he did kind of tell you, though.
01:43:20.560
Um, he did, and that's why, like, I don't, like, frankly, I will never get in a relationship
01:43:26.600
Even after, when we were hooking up, um, I knew that nothing would come from it, and
01:43:31.420
Like, it sounds like if he, if he walked away from his current girl right this second and
01:43:35.800
called you and said, you know, I actually do adore you, and I just made a huge mistake
01:43:41.220
Andrew, I refused to, because I gave this man everything.
01:43:44.100
I could have offered him everything, and he turned me down, and I refused to be the second
01:43:47.140
Yes, I was hooking up with him at the time, but that was strictly because I'm not, I'm
01:43:52.700
definitely not adding another body to me, and, you know, it was pleasuring, um, but the
01:43:59.480
way that he treated me, the way that he made me feel, I refused to ever feel like that again.
01:44:03.940
I refused to, and I, I swear on all, like, if he would have thrown everything down and
01:44:10.000
said, I'm ready to be with you, I would never, I would not do it, because I know what I deserve,
01:44:13.600
and, like, at the time, you know, I was immature, and.
01:44:17.500
All right, I'm going to move it on, but we can maybe come back to some of that a little
01:44:20.620
bit later on, so, okay, uh, going to Jen here, I'm going to need you to scoot to the
01:44:26.140
Um, so, Jen, you wrote in your pre-show notes that you would like to come on the podcast
01:44:32.240
as someone who looks like a bimbo, but has an actual IQ.
01:44:37.060
We're going to go split, okay, um, so fix the split.
01:44:46.600
I, um, actually got tested, not one of these stupid, um, online things.
01:45:03.920
The percentage of the population that's over 140 is.
01:45:12.560
Yeah, I did it in school, eighth grade, because, yeah, I wasn't.
01:45:24.600
You got 143 score on the IQ test in fifth grade.
01:45:39.400
I had a slur and I wasn't, like, performing, um, like, normally.
01:45:45.460
So, yeah, they were trying to, like, hold me back grades and stuff, but, yeah, during
01:45:59.040
Do you think it's, like, still the same or higher?
01:45:59.840
I don't, I mean, I wouldn't say it's that high, but I'd say it's higher than average.
01:46:06.120
Um, you said that you don't sleep around and you would like to debate on things.
01:46:10.180
You said you agree with a lot that is said on the show, but there are just some things
01:46:15.900
Um, so, I guess the first thing is some of the things that you want to get into.
01:46:20.100
I think we had initially had you scheduled, but then there was a cancellation and you wrote
01:46:27.780
Considering what is happening to our nation right now, I'm not sure it is in my best interest
01:46:33.120
We are in the, uh, fuck around and find out stage of politics.
01:46:36.740
You all say that Democrats are the delusional ones, but that's not accurate.
01:46:41.620
But you did say, you all say that Democrats are the delusional ones, but that's not accurate
01:46:45.680
I didn't say, I think both sides are delusional.
01:46:50.680
So, Democrats are delusional, but so are the Republicans.
01:46:59.700
Well, you also realize, like, Brian's an independent, right?
01:47:02.140
Oh, I mean, I didn't know that, but, um, I'm just saying in general, I'm not blaming
01:47:09.560
Um, I'm not blaming Brian for the delulu of the world.
01:47:31.920
I'm gonna make a note to come back to this, but I'm gonna jump to some of your other disagreements.
01:47:35.920
Um, so, you said that, uh, we're good at debate techniques, aka manipulation techniques.
01:47:45.380
A lot of debate is just a form of manipulation.
01:47:52.820
Whoever's in control, um, there's a lot of people that aren't, um, used to debate and
01:48:00.780
So, they're quiet and, uh, they get confused easily and they are more agreeable in those
01:48:08.420
And it doesn't really, it's not constructive to actually coming to solutions and decide.
01:48:12.920
It's more like, who's the winner, who's the loser?
01:48:15.540
And it just kind of, when you say that there's birth problem, birth rate problems and hatred,
01:48:27.460
Oh, um, both, there's more hatred on both sides of the sexes, comments, and people, um,
01:48:35.060
if, if you want a society to work, we should come to solutions instead of, uh, having, uh,
01:48:43.700
see, uh, like, I, I loathe this type of ideology.
01:48:48.180
I have more respect for the Marxist feminist over there next to you.
01:48:52.420
And here's, here's, here's, here's, here's actually why.
01:49:00.880
So if you're a knight on a battlefield and you're going out to battle, right?
01:49:04.320
And in the modernity, in modernity, the battle is the info war and debate.
01:49:13.260
And the tool that we have, one of the primary weapons we have is debate and discourse.
01:49:23.740
But the worst part, the worst part is when people refuse to pick a side of it.
01:49:29.780
It's when they refuse to pick a side of it, right?
01:49:35.340
So at least when we go to the battlefield, right?
01:49:37.400
And we're duking it out, um, we understand what the hell it is we're fighting for.
01:49:42.740
You, like the position that you have of the perceived neutrality, right?
01:49:51.100
I think, though, that you're trying to frame this as though you're neutral.
01:50:02.600
Not just fighting against each other and making us hate each other.
01:50:05.400
How are you going to have a solution with people who disagree with libertarianism?
01:50:11.060
I want a solution to the problem instead of fighting against each other all the time.
01:50:21.300
Does it bother you that he's independent since he hasn't picked his side?
01:50:26.200
I don't know if you picked that up or not, but that's why he was laughing.
01:50:35.800
Why I'm here is we're all repulsed from each other, and what your show is doing is making
01:50:48.000
But before I do, don't want to quite let you get away with this.
01:50:52.540
So you said we're good at debate techniques, a.k.a. manipulation techniques.
01:50:59.960
Yeah, give me a precise example of, like, a scenario in which either tonight or, like,
01:51:13.620
Can you present, either tonight or previous episode, a manipulation technique I have employed?
01:51:29.320
Well, I'll come back to that, and you guys can have that conversation then.
01:51:32.940
But you have an issue with the show, so I'll address that one.
01:51:37.200
You wrote, well, I'll come through a couple things.
01:51:39.300
You said that we bring on young women with no education to debate on things they know
01:51:52.880
So, I'd like to address the multiple false claims here.
01:52:05.420
So what do you think is, like, the appropriate age where you're allowed to have, like, a conversation
01:52:10.700
I'm just saying if you mostly get people who are not educated and, like, get their views
01:52:17.020
off of TikTok, then you're not going to get a realistic...
01:52:57.720
So, look, I'll just address the multiple false claims.
01:53:03.700
You said that we bring on young women with no education.
01:53:10.980
The average age of the guests on our show are 26.
01:53:23.300
Are you talking about mean or, like, on average?
01:53:28.180
Most panels are pretty mixed, where you have an older and younger demographic.
01:53:34.080
So I'm closer in age to you two than I am to them.
01:53:36.260
I don't want y'all to take what I say and use it like...
01:53:38.960
I mean, what I do mean is that people in the younger generation are influenced by social media,
01:53:46.440
and they don't really have that much real-life experience.
01:53:49.600
And that makes it an issue that with fake media, it goes on both sides.
01:53:55.760
And people don't really know what's actually going on in the world.
01:53:57.740
So wait, what you're saying is that young people tie in to social media in order to inform their worldview,
01:54:05.940
and we're on social media assisting in informing their worldview.
01:54:13.980
Like I said, both sides, Democrat and Republican, it's become a huge issue.
01:54:22.380
Democrats are not delusional, and Republicans are not delusional.
01:54:27.600
And it's true that there's people who hold delusions, and there's creators who hold delusions, and things like this, right?
01:54:34.120
You have opposition ideologies, which people do come to through reasoned discourse in their own in-group.
01:54:40.420
And they're not always unreasonable ideologies.
01:54:48.140
They do need to be combated, from my view, right?
01:54:55.320
She's trying to combat ideologies, which she considers to be counterproductive to the society she wants to see.
01:55:01.640
Trying to combat ideologies, which are counterproductive to the society that I want to see.
01:55:05.740
If the venue that we do this in is social media, you're saying that that's where young people go, right?
01:55:11.580
Why in the world is that not exactly where we would be in order to produce the ideology you want to see for the world?
01:55:21.080
When you view one side, you only view that side, and you don't view the other side.
01:55:29.340
If only there was a show that had conservative Christians and Marxist feminists debating.
01:55:39.620
See, like, I completely lost what I was saying because you interrupted me.
01:55:45.500
You were saying that, essentially, you don't present the other side.
01:55:56.200
First of all, I don't believe in a two-party system.
01:55:58.900
And that's where my opinion comes from is I don't think there should be one's right, one's wrong.
01:56:05.920
So I'd like to bring it back to the actual criticism.
01:56:09.340
Which is that you bring on young women with no education.
01:56:12.280
So I've already provided statistics that we keep pretty thoroughly.
01:56:18.700
I would say only fangirls aren't really educated.
01:56:28.280
You said that we bring on young women with no education, whether they're older or young.
01:56:41.280
I don't know if it's still called a PhD in nursing or is it just, I don't know.
01:56:46.260
In any case, we bring on, we've brought on women who have bachelor's degrees, master's
01:56:53.440
We've also bring on women who've dropped out of college.
01:56:55.660
Here's the thing though, just like me, because I don't have some advanced degree in sociology
01:57:01.860
or politics or philosophy or any of this stuff.
01:57:06.420
So I don't think it would actually, can you actually state?
01:57:08.360
What would be wrong with me as a college dropout talking to somebody else who's a college
01:57:16.760
When I say uneducated, I mean people with no life experience.
01:57:22.540
If you're talking to OnlyFans girls who show their boobs online and have never had a job
01:57:27.500
and don't know anything about politics, then I would call them uneducated.
01:57:38.740
Listen, the majority of the girls on here that are on this side of the table are not
01:57:51.960
Even the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that girl.
01:58:02.440
Oh, I was going to say, guess how many of my guests do OnlyFans?
01:58:14.200
We're looking, we're looking at the potential that in the next 10 years of one in 10 Zoomer
01:58:23.980
It is a slight over representation, but not much.
01:58:27.440
It still, I mean, it still applies to what I'm saying.
01:58:38.520
It's slated to be, but the point is, is that even if it's a slight over representation,
01:58:46.200
I'm just pointing out in Zoomers, there's a potential.
01:58:53.220
I don't remember what it was, but the point is, it's still, it's very, very high.
01:58:58.000
Whatever the percentile will be for Zoomers with OnlyFans, but the percentage of OnlyFans
01:59:10.540
It's a very easy way for a lot of women to try to make a buck.
01:59:15.940
That's great you disagree with it, but that means it's a representation of people who have
01:59:21.120
an ideology which needs to be combated if you disagree with it.
01:59:26.240
But when you're bringing on more OnlyFans people and the normal population, I don't know
01:59:34.540
The normal world, most of us don't really come across.
01:59:37.120
I don't think that Brian brings on the representation population of doctors, of nurses, of if you
01:59:46.500
What I'm saying is that regardless of the population at large versus the percentage that comes on
01:59:52.520
the podcast itself, I don't think he probably has a representation population for any of
02:00:00.340
Because, yeah, they have real issues to deal with.
02:00:03.320
I mean, we have a woman who has a doctorate in nursing here, but in any case-
02:00:08.840
I told you my view on education, I'm not saying literally doctorates.
02:00:12.520
I say people that came from bad childhoods, they went into bad situations, and you bring
02:00:19.660
them on to generalized women or generalized men in situations.
02:00:25.260
So let me just address something you said previously.
02:00:31.460
Like you said, this whole table didn't respond to.
02:00:35.760
Yeah, I actually think that's totally fair to say that women-
02:00:41.580
But when we're talking to each individual here, we're honing down on specifics that you
02:00:48.340
I mean, my issue is generalizing that people who go on here with, I guess, like more slutty
02:00:57.540
jobs and stuff versus like the general population.
02:01:01.880
The general population, prevent it from being a slut because they don't have a slutty job?
02:01:08.740
Did you see this funny meme on Twitter the other day?
02:01:11.200
It was like what people think sluts dress like and what they actually dress like.
02:01:16.780
And what they actually dress like is they're wearing scrubs.
02:01:22.720
I mean, I don't know if you want to throw your fellow nurses under the bus, but isn't
02:01:28.520
it the case that a lot of the nurses, not you, not you, but like the other nurses, they
02:01:38.720
I personally don't know any, but I will say that-
02:01:45.020
Yeah, but I would say that there is a certain reputation that people who work in a hospital
02:01:51.560
I mean, what Grey's Anatomy is probably not a good example, but you see little hookups
02:01:58.320
And there have been, I mean, I have seen things, but these are not my immediate circle.
02:02:06.120
So you have a demographic of people who are mostly female working that job, and you have
02:02:12.020
tons and tons of males who come through for a variety of reasons, it makes total sense
02:02:17.100
that there would be a lot of promiscuity in that industry.
02:02:23.340
Very few male flight attendants, mostly female.
02:02:30.060
Travel nurses is the intersection of, that's just, that's a rough one.
02:02:41.500
We need to get a giant red flag and, like, drape it on people.
02:02:46.360
So, I guess going back to it, though, if you have such an objection to the, I guess,
02:03:04.240
Um, I got buzzed really early due to the three champagne.
02:03:22.800
That was where I'm really attractive after a couple of beers and a little bump.
02:03:35.180
So I, oh, you have an objection to the guests that I bring on.
02:03:38.800
You don't like the composition of the guests, whatever.
02:03:42.580
If it's such an issue to you, um, and I'll pay you a referral fee for each person you send
02:03:46.620
me, send me women who don't do sex work, don't do OnlyFans that you think are appropriate
02:03:50.880
to come on the show and I'll happily book them.
02:04:03.460
No one cares about exposure in my friend group.
02:04:08.500
Like in my group, I'm taking selfies and putting it on.
02:04:12.180
So wait, so how else can we roll out the red carpet for people that you would prefer to
02:04:21.380
Like, I mean, they're, they don't want to pay to come here.
02:04:24.260
I'm on the show if they don't care for their flight.
02:04:27.240
So again, so that you're, so here was your brilliant plan.
02:04:33.600
We, I would like to get all of my friends on your show on your dime that you pay for
02:04:44.980
But, but do you realize how absurd it is to say, well, uh, the problem is, is that you
02:04:53.620
You don't have the correct representation of people that I feel like should be on your
02:04:57.420
And all you would really have to do to get them is pay them a bunch of money.
02:05:06.720
It's not cheap to, like just my motel was like 350 bucks.
02:05:17.680
Try to recruit women from Los Angeles or the surrounding area.
02:05:20.360
Who represent the world view you want to see on the show.
02:05:39.720
Girls can DM the show if they want to be on the show.
02:05:42.740
If they meet your criteria, we can have them on the show.
02:05:52.560
Anyways, I'm going to move on to your other criticisms.
02:05:54.620
So you said that you're a disabled woman, yet you do construction and woodworking and
02:06:01.000
Because the government is so effed that you're preparing to homestead and check out of capitalism.
02:06:32.700
What the fuck does that have to do with libertarians being laissez-faire capitalists?
02:06:34.900
Listen, I'm going to tell you my plan with homestead, if you would listen.
02:06:38.020
I don't really want another plan about homesteading.
02:06:51.880
My role view is I want to check out of normal society in general and buy a bunch of land,
02:07:00.120
bring people I agree with, my friends, and we are going to, I mean, not check out of capitalism
02:07:18.940
We had a bunch of friends, and we went out to the middle of nowhere, and we all shared
02:07:25.140
And we were just, like, anybody who had a need of something, the other people would provide
02:07:31.280
What type of ism would we be thinking about there?
02:07:34.240
We still have jobs, just not all of us have jobs, and we just share.
02:07:49.700
Libertarianism, I don't care about social stuff.
02:07:55.960
The communists don't care about social shit, either.
02:08:02.600
What is my view if I care about a small government?
02:08:06.060
But I don't care about stupid crap that Republicans care about.
02:08:13.840
Communism and libertarianism are opposite sides of the same coin.
02:08:20.480
Communists affirm a stateless society through the fact that there needs to be no communal
02:08:28.800
Libertarians affirm that they want a stateless society where the only affirmation is property.
02:08:35.940
So, libertarians, they affirm their view in property, and that's how they want their stateless
02:08:46.520
They're saying, we want a stateless society where there are no...
02:08:51.920
Classless, completely classless, this and that.
02:08:58.500
If you read Atlas Shrugged, or if you read The Fountainhead, if you read any of these, this
02:09:03.240
is what you'll find with libertarian thought leaders.
02:09:12.820
I can't think of his name for the life of me, even though I've cited him multiple times.
02:09:22.300
But anyway, the point is, is like, you're not talking about libertarianism.
02:09:38.200
There's a lot of stress in relationships due to where our economy is and power factors.
02:09:53.380
No, I didn't move it since you said not to move it.
02:10:08.540
No, just let me say my whole view because I have a reason to be here.
02:10:17.300
So, my plan is because our economy, where it is now, is we need both people working to sustain a household for most people.
02:10:28.820
So, if we work together and buy acres of land, we don't need to do that.
02:10:44.460
So, you want to buy these acres of land so that people have, like, housing and stuff, right?
02:11:12.740
I don't think what you're describing is a political ideology.
02:11:20.360
Because we're in such a weird state and society and the economy that we share resources of
02:11:25.600
people that we love and care about, like our family and brothers and sisters.
02:11:45.200
You said, basically, you don't want to be anywhere near people who are willing to keep doing things
02:11:50.220
that divide us as a nation instead of solving the real issues, kind of like feminism.
02:12:02.680
You said that you wanted some time to think about coming on the show.
02:12:05.440
You have bigger things going on in your life than this stupid podcast.
02:12:08.440
You don't know if it's worth it for you to go out of your way and spend your money to
02:12:10.980
come be on the show and tell your views to brainwashed people.
02:12:19.600
I just think the debate style can be kind of brainwashing sometimes.
02:12:26.800
And I just think if 70% of women are divorcing men, why is the whole show based on...
02:12:41.220
You're getting women who are prone to, with no education in the real world, prone...
02:12:50.040
Wait, what do you mean by no education in the real world?
02:12:53.380
People who are damaged mentally and emotionally coming on the show who are strippers and stuff
02:12:59.260
and men who are also mentally and emotionally...
02:13:03.360
Okay, so we can just talk about, like, if you want to do, like, an appeal to this exception.
02:13:10.940
Okay, so we already established that 85% of our guests are not involved in sex work in any capacity.
02:13:21.640
You said that I'm bringing people on on the show who have no education and they're being brainwashed
02:13:29.740
First off, I don't know a lot of people who haven't gone through some degree of, like, a traumatic experience in their past.
02:13:34.760
But, like, what evidence do you actually have that it's the case that the majority of our guests have, like, severe trauma?
02:13:42.620
So am I not allowed to speak to people who have gone through difficult things in their past?
02:13:47.200
But what evidence do you have that that's, that I, the people, hold on, hold on.
02:13:52.260
What evidence do you have, because I'm going to just reject your assertion immediately,
02:13:57.320
that the people who come on are disproportionately, like, have, like, a ton of trauma?
02:14:05.500
And y'all, yourself, in the show, listen, listen, you and yourself, not you,
02:14:11.860
every time there's a woman that is in sex work or strippers, they're like, yeah, there was no dad.
02:14:17.200
Like, you can, y'all are the ones that make that assumptions yourselves.
02:14:26.540
I'm going to just grant that, yes, I don't even, yes, sex workers do come on the show.
02:14:32.780
Because I've already established that it's 15% of the guests that we've ever had on are involved in sex work.
02:14:42.880
I'm saying that the more you view a video, the more you're going to get that type of content, right?
02:14:50.600
So, if someone's damaged and they just got a guy, let's just say a guy, got cheated on and got, like, someone stole from them,
02:14:58.240
they're going to view more of those videos, and if you have women that are...
02:15:03.200
No, no, no, hey, those aren't, can you, those aren't for you guys, okay?
02:15:17.160
Can we just, there's, there's bottled waters, there's the, the water over there, okay?
02:15:31.180
I have ADHD, I don't remember what we were talking about.
02:15:33.220
We're talking about, you're alleging that I am talking to people who are brainwashed.
02:15:41.320
I think you're contributing to a large factor of social media brainwashing.
02:15:46.680
It's not just your show in general, I think, and, I think...
02:16:15.840
Just that women care about money or status and stuff and not about...
02:16:23.040
What specifically have I said pertaining to that?
02:16:26.960
I've never called a woman a gold digger on the show.
02:16:34.800
You're saying that men are protectors and providers.
02:16:37.560
No, and you don't say anything about connection and qualities that we want.
02:16:42.040
I don't care about a man's money, and if you look at the comments, you will see...
02:16:56.520
You said I generalize about women and that all they care about is money.
02:17:01.340
You say women do this, women do that, women like this, but it's really not true.
02:17:19.380
You make things very transactional that we expect for you to pay for everything.
02:17:25.640
You bring on girls that do expect that because they're very transactional people.
02:17:34.560
We understand, as a normal person in society, I understand that...
02:17:38.800
Ah, so normal women, if they want a guy to pay for a first date, that's, like, not normal behavior for women?
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It's the majority of conservative women's position that they want men...
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The majority of conservative is one-third of the population in relationships.
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It's the majority of conservative women's positions that they want men to pay for first dates.
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And then even liberal women who have perhaps a greater tendency towards being okay with a 50-50 relationship, even liberal progressive women want men, they want chivalry, they want tradition on the men's part, and they want men to pay for first dates.
02:18:18.760
I don't think it's as much as conservative women, but to just say all liberal women or all progressive women don't want to go 50-50 is just completely dubious.
02:18:28.960
I'm saying you generalize people like it's a majority.
02:18:38.600
I don't know if there's polls on this, but I would...
02:18:45.080
Look, I'd have to see the poll, but I think it's a fair idea going into a date, like, a lot of women do have an expectation that men pay for first dates.
02:18:52.820
Like, I haven't seen the peer-reviewed study that, like, oh, do women want men to pay for first dates?
02:19:06.880
I'm just saying, yeah, it's just don't generalize all the population if it's not...
02:19:17.060
You say the word women so many times on the show, like...
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I typically don't actually make that claim, but...
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So then all you're doing is you're making a referent to a specific group in the context
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For the rest of the conversation, he can say the word women because we now have the referent
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I mean, that's still the same thing if you put they than if you say women want.
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But if you qualify it first, so we could do this with anything.
02:20:12.880
For the rest of this entire conversation, if I say they, I'm referencing what?
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So if he qualifies conversation at first and says, well, most women will do X, the whole
02:20:28.120
rest of the time he's referencing women in the source of that conversation, he's referencing
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But what I disagree is when you say most women, I don't agree with that, that it's most women.
02:20:44.280
I don't think I've said most women want men to pay for first dates in a previous podcast.
02:20:59.500
No, I'm saying in general, you say women do this, women want this, when I don't believe
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I don't know what we're arguing about then, but...
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If I say women likes men who are taller than them...
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Do you think I'm referencing every woman I'm playing here with?
02:21:35.260
Listen, I think in a lot of the times when you say you're generalizing things that aren't
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I mean, women liking tall men, that's true, but a lot of times it's not true.
02:21:50.200
Okay, so which generalization do you take issue with?
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You were alleging that I brainwash people, I think.
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Yeah, my entire job is to convince people of my worldview.
02:22:19.740
In your point of view, women shouldn't have rights, but in my point of view, yeah.
02:22:24.820
Well, my point of view is that women shouldn't have rights or that most people shouldn't
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No, no, I want you to tell me what my actual view is.
02:22:35.920
I think your view is because men are drafted, that women shouldn't have the right to vote.
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Of why it is that if men are drafted, women shouldn't be able to vote.
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Because to vote, they have to sign off to be in the draft, right?
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My position is that people shouldn't be able to vote to send people off to wars.
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They themselves will never be qualified to fight.
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Like, if you can't be drafted, but you can vote to send people off to war, then you are
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participating in being able to send people off to war to fight a war that you yourself
02:23:28.440
I'm not saying true in everything you're saying.
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I'm saying, first of all, combat has changed so much.
02:23:38.280
There's not one-on-one combat like it used to be.
02:23:45.600
Yeah, all you got to do is look at Ukraine and Russia.
02:23:55.160
First of all, we gave them our bad technology, but our old stuff...
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What they did is they got on a motorcycle that goes really, really fast with shotguns
02:24:15.060
Frontline combat is still men with guns killing each other.
02:24:20.240
Yeah, but when you say front lines, women who are controlling all other aspects, there's
02:24:26.360
Back in the day where someone starts here and someone starts there and then we charge.
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The army is this big, giant, slow-moving machine.
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There's nowhere ever that one-third of the combat troops were women who died.
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Are you talking about a battle or are you talking about the actual casualties?
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Do you think that we had 600 women who were front-line troops who died?
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I mean, they were in the map of the front-line.
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It's like, these are volunteer female soldiers.
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They can control the drones and everything else.
02:25:58.060
That's what I'm here for, is to change for the better, not to just make everyone polarize.
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During the Afghanistan war, 13 U.S. service members died who were females.
02:26:12.500
Whatever I looked up with 600, I'm not a history buff.
02:26:25.240
All I know is I looked up something where 600 women out of 12...
02:26:47.680
When you got on to get into casualties, I think it's over 100,000 casualties.
02:26:58.520
So, if you go from World War I to World War II, and you're taking a look at deaths versus
02:27:01.960
casualties, there was a lot of deaths to casualty ratio.
02:27:04.900
You go to World War II, medical technology advanced.
02:27:07.580
There's still tons of casualties, but not quite as many deaths to casualty ratio.
02:27:15.860
You still have tens of thousands of casualties, right?
02:27:23.080
But the thing is, ultimately, medical technology has come so far that if you get your arm and
02:27:28.680
leg blown off and shrapnel all over you and you get burned, you still live, but you're
02:27:41.640
I think the whole red pelt thing is brainwashing.
02:27:45.040
It's making hate, women hate you, and men hate us.
02:27:49.400
What if it's making the right kind of women hate me?
02:27:52.040
Like, I want feminists to hate me because they should.
02:27:56.300
Because I represent an ideology which literally wants to destroy feminism.
02:28:01.340
Should you try to help them change whatever viewpoint?
02:28:04.500
You mean by, like, I don't know, debating with them?
02:28:08.620
How, how, how should I, how could two people enter into an oppositional discourse with each
02:28:16.560
other in a way that would convince other people of their ideology?
02:28:19.380
What would be a thing you can think of off the top of your head that could do that?
02:28:27.680
What, what could two people do through the, through the course of, if you wanted to have
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discourse with them, with opposition views in order to convince a ton of other people
02:28:37.060
of your position, what is the single word that comes to your mind that two people could
02:28:41.840
It's debate, but your views are taking away women's rights and, you know, you think that
02:28:52.400
Your view is that things are better in the 50s when women.
02:29:00.060
Women could vote in the 50s, the 19th Amendment, the 19, 20, I'm talking about, you, you said
02:29:05.660
on the show that women were happier in the 50s.
02:29:09.800
You guys, I will give you guys time later on in the show to discuss this.
02:29:15.560
So you, you, you still haven't really explained to me the whole brainwashing component, but
02:29:21.340
You said that you think that the show is just as harmful as OnlyFans on society.
02:29:26.520
Yeah, social media is, uh, is, um, like I said many times that we're making women more
02:29:39.760
You said that you think the show is just as harmful as OnlyFans on society.
02:29:46.400
So I have a couple, a couple clarifying questions.
02:29:49.680
Um, can you articulate precisely how my show is harmful to start?
02:29:53.540
Because if you look at the comments and the fees, there's a lot of hate, there's a lot
02:29:59.820
And, um, I think that all of the comments and all the people that come through it, yeah,
02:30:11.140
And, and I'll address the comparison of it to the harm.
02:30:17.120
Um, so I do think you seem to greatly overestimate the reach and influence that I have, that
02:30:23.680
So yeah, whatever podcast and more harmful than OnlyFans in totality, in its entirety.
02:30:36.620
Um, I, I'm not saying if you populations, like it has to be exact equal or one has a higher
02:30:42.400
population, um, cause I don't know the statistics.
02:30:45.660
I just mean that OnlyFans is also being harmful towards men and women.
02:30:52.360
So, um, are you like in favor of adult content creation, consumption?
02:31:00.920
So my show, which gets, I mean, now we're actually have about 10,000 live viewers, but
02:31:05.740
typically we're like 500,000 or sorry, 5,000 to 7,000 live viewers.
02:31:13.340
Thank you guys for, uh, tuning in five, but the average is between 5,000 to 7,000 live
02:31:23.480
I not, it's not more harmful, just as harmful to society as OnlyFans, which is a multi-billion
02:31:29.320
dollar international company, which has introduced millions of women to sex work who wouldn't
02:31:35.720
Not to mention the harm that this is doing, not just to women, but also to men for a variety
02:31:41.300
But one of these reasons that I tend to harp on quite a bit is the whole, like, you know,
02:31:45.060
the casual defrauding that's occurring on OnlyFans when it comes to, uh, and these sort
02:31:49.700
of girlfriend experience, fake girlfriend experiences.
02:31:54.200
Um, whatever podcast, just as harmful as OnlyFans?
02:32:00.100
Not just, I think the whole, like, the whole, um, it's not, it's just the whole red pill,
02:32:07.280
I just mean the whole movement in general is...
02:32:10.900
Like, it's just saying, like, one OnlyFans girl versus whatever podcast.
02:32:15.600
You can't just say the whole of one thing, the whole of the other thing.
02:32:18.940
I'll repeat what you wrote, because that's what I'm contending with.
02:32:21.700
You said, I think your show is just as harmful as OnlyFans on society.
02:32:28.820
So I'm not going to do a defense of other podcasts.
02:32:42.980
I think your show is just as harmful as OnlyFans on society.
02:32:49.640
So how am I supposed to interpret when somebody says...
02:32:51.640
So, for example, if I said, you commit a crime, and then I say, oh, no, it's actually,
02:33:11.280
I think your show is just as harmful as OnlyFans, which is a multi-billion international...
02:33:19.180
Not just you and your 200,000 views or whatever.
02:33:25.820
But you are putting that out there, and they're watching your videos.
02:33:28.940
Yes, I'm putting my worldview out there, and...
02:33:47.220
I'm going to go ahead and grant that my podcast is bad for society.
02:33:51.420
How the fuck do you come to the conclusion that it's just as harmful as OnlyFans?
02:33:57.740
I'll say I was wrong in that, but it's very harmful.
02:34:11.740
I'd say these types of podcasts is what I meant by that.
02:34:15.740
No, I'm going to take your words at face value.
02:34:18.080
Okay, I said I'm wrong if you're taking it by face value, but that's not what I meant.
02:34:22.020
I'm not prepared to do a defense of other podcasts.
02:34:26.000
I told you I was wrong if you're taking it by face value, but what I meant by that is
02:34:31.620
Sure, and so your position is because looking at the comments on my videos and other similar
02:34:39.960
In the comments or my own rhetoric and positions?
02:34:51.220
I think that, yeah, people who have been hurt, like, if you tell them, if you spread stuff
02:34:57.680
that makes them want to hate women more, they're more prone to...
02:35:02.900
Oh, well, I'm not going to grant that, but so just curious.
02:35:10.500
I do want to ask, so is this like your first day on the internet?
02:35:13.700
Like, this isn't something that's exclusive to the...
02:35:18.740
This is not something that's exclusive to the Whatever Podcast.
02:35:21.500
You can go watch a Minecraft video, and on a Minecraft video, there's going to be, like,
02:35:30.600
This is just, you know, YouTube comment section, kind of just notorious for being bad.
02:35:35.220
But honestly, have you seen the TikTok comment section, which I think...
02:35:40.640
I think TikTok, which is absolutely dominated by women, I look at the comment section,
02:35:46.540
on a lot of female-centric TikToks that are often dating-related, and the misandry and
02:35:54.880
man-hating and purely sexist comments I see on there is pretty objectionable.
02:35:59.780
But I guess what I'm trying to say is, this is not something that's purely exclusive.
02:36:07.260
Well, I mean, I think no matter what you do, like, there are going to be nasty comments,
02:36:12.940
and if you're in a field like dating, if you're talking about dating,
02:36:16.260
if you're talking about relationships, especially if you talk about politics,
02:36:22.700
People are going to say nasty things in the comment.
02:36:25.860
What I can tell you is, I'm responsible for what I say.
02:36:33.840
Some guy in the comment section who says some crazy shit, that's him.
02:36:38.980
You are responsible for that, but you also own...
02:36:42.240
Like, this is your show, and you put these comments on...
02:36:55.580
Listen, my big thing is that women should stop women hating and advertising that,
02:37:02.520
Women should stop man-hating, and women should stop...
02:37:04.680
Should we just take YouTube down, because, like, the comments...
02:37:14.080
Because bad thing happened in society, maybe we should just end society?
02:37:20.640
No, I mean, if you agree it's bad for society, then that was my point, is that it's bad for
02:37:33.140
So let's say you said you're, like, libertarian?
02:37:53.900
Let's say there's, like, a representative of your worldview who has a YouTube channel,
02:38:00.840
And maybe he's forwarding all your political values, your worldview, etc.
02:38:05.220
In the comment section on his YouTube channel, there's, like, nasty comments, and they're
02:38:09.740
They're, like, saying nasty things about, like, the political opposition.
02:38:17.320
And in the comment section of his YouTube videos, they're saying, oh, these liberals are
02:38:20.900
stupid and idiots, and they're big, big, meanie faces.
02:38:24.780
Whatever the mean things they're saying in the comment section, even though he's forwarding
02:38:33.100
No, but when you allow people on your show that don't, like, care about human rights,
02:38:39.560
and men are, you know, that makes it different.
02:38:42.400
I've never actually seen Brian put anybody on the show that doesn't care about human rights.
02:38:50.160
If I say that, I think that men and women probably shouldn't both vote.
02:38:55.840
Can you explain to me how it is that I'm singling out women?
02:39:04.720
But how am I singling them out if I'm saying both shouldn't?
02:39:11.040
If I say that I want to go back to our constitutional founding...
02:39:21.240
Because these chats are about to fall off, I don't want a repeat of what happened yesterday
02:39:30.020
Did you have these Looney Tunes views while you were married?
02:39:34.720
And did he head up the local white dudes for Kamala?
02:39:41.000
Did I have these Looney Tunes views when we were married?
02:39:43.040
No, my views were more liberal rather than leftist.
02:39:50.060
Just, I think if you had the views while you were married, and did your ex have a man bun?
02:40:00.400
So it's a very, very common post-divorce for women to go the feminist Marxist route, by the way.
02:40:08.820
You portray yourself as a squishy fence-sitter, which in and of itself is abhorrent.
02:40:13.520
You're historically illiterate and fail to understand that.
02:40:25.440
Societies were built on a clash of ideas as far back as Demosthenes.
02:40:29.140
For that matter, this clash of ideas was very underpinning for the Socratic method and the peripatetic school.
02:40:41.440
Furthermore, our entire legal system, especially at the appellate level, is grounded on adversarial argumentation.
02:40:53.320
I think there should be more than a two-party system.
02:40:58.820
Based Astronaut says, two questions for all the women on panel.
02:41:05.920
So first off, going around the table, do you believe in astrology?
02:41:45.000
But I guess we're like, yeah, we're two parties are fighting, I guess.
02:41:53.040
I don't think the rest of the girls need that to answer.
02:41:58.300
I just want to say, thank God she said it first.
02:42:01.320
I think that's fine for a proprietary definition.
02:42:03.440
I think most people would probably say that that's what would come to most people's brains
02:42:10.860
Lucas, and do so comprehensively and with granular detail.
02:42:16.220
Otherwise, you're a feckless, lemming, spewing, nonsensical, circular prattle.
02:42:25.520
I think he's talking about the libertarian that Andrew couldn't think of.
02:42:31.420
It's the libertarian who always is talking about how monarchies are actually better.
02:42:38.260
I can't think of his name off the top of my head.
02:42:44.320
So me picking a side means that I'm worse than who?
02:42:51.820
No, he was asking me who I was thinking about earlier when I was referencing the guy I was referencing.
02:42:58.660
I just, for some reason, sometimes you have that, like, brain fog when you're trying to reference a specific person and you can't think of it.
02:43:31.380
Was that the guy that you showed recently that had the picture of him laying down?
02:43:49.040
I just meant that maybe you should eat a burrito with less calories.
02:44:06.980
Finishing off here with, I guess, some of your notes.
02:44:10.480
You said, okay, we talked about, like, the comments section.
02:44:14.640
Um, you also wrote, considering how much, considering how much, uh, domestic violence
02:44:20.380
there is in the world, I don't think it is very healthy to spread rhetoric about women
02:44:29.480
Uh, what evidence do you have that the men who are watching the show are mentally damaged?
02:44:33.540
I think that, I think that a lot of society is mentally damaged if they've been hurt by
02:44:39.480
If, if they're more in tune to, like, being hateful towards women, I just...
02:44:52.240
Um, so, can you explain, what is the rhetoric precisely about women that we're spreading
02:45:00.620
Just generalizations about women caring about status and...
02:45:29.940
And, like, 90% of, like, infant murders are committed by women.
02:45:39.660
Let's just, let's just allow women to murder their children because of postpartum depression.
02:45:45.100
No, I don't, I don't agree with abortion in most instances.
02:45:47.840
Do you have any evidence that the men who watch my show are mentally damaged?
02:45:53.880
I think a large portion of them, if you look at the comments, are mentally damaged.
02:45:57.720
But the hate, the hatred, like, the hate comments, they're saying, just as if I see women saying
02:46:02.680
crazy things about men, I think that they should probably get some mental health help, right?
02:46:06.460
Yeah, but I mean, the comment section wouldn't even necessarily, like, people are inclined
02:46:21.460
That Brian can pull up any random video he wants.
02:46:34.600
And then you can assume if they're liking all that that the other people agree with it,
02:46:58.040
So, I'll just put the 100 up against, I guess, myself.
02:47:01.240
You get it if you're right, and I get it back if I'm right.
02:47:07.580
So, Brian can pull up any random video, go through the first 10 comments, and I don't
02:47:46.980
Like, the top ones are the most, like, recommended.
02:47:49.320
The first 10 comments, the ones that are the most liked, I bet they're not even that bad.
02:48:09.160
Do you know I've done this experiment dozens of times with callers who've called in and said,
02:48:26.300
But when you scroll down, there's a lot of hatred.
02:48:28.900
Oh, so out of thousands of comments, some people say negative things.
02:48:32.060
I would say at least a third of them are pretty bad.
02:48:42.280
And, of course, you're going to call Gorlock things.
02:49:24.380
So it starts with P words, okay, as long as I'm getting paid for it.
02:49:37.660
I'm pretty sure I could talk to Nicola for two hours straight and not learn a single useful thing.
02:49:45.080
Chase, these girls would rather see women at 18, sell their bodies and guys online, than get into caring and loving a monogamous relationship with an older guy.
02:49:53.380
There's such a clear sign of how society has fallen.
02:49:58.300
It's literally just his general opinion on what he's seeing.
02:50:02.680
It's crazy to me that these 18-year-olds would say this thing.
02:50:05.680
The next one is, Chase is the guy who walks in the valley of death and fears no evil.
02:50:10.120
Nicolette is the perfect example of what every woman should avoid and why every man should avoid dating.
02:50:14.960
Well, it's hard to know if you haven't seen the episode.
02:50:30.360
There's some really bad things in those comments.
02:50:36.840
So if they're the most liked, that means the most amount of people are saying, I agree with this person on this.
02:50:42.240
And if the top ten are not mentally ill, and the most amount of people are agreeing with them on the likes, what can we figure out from that?
02:50:55.020
But also, the mentally ill people on the show, I just think it's a generalization that's unhealthy.
02:51:05.160
That one girl that left, I would say she's mentally ill, yes.
02:51:10.140
So the most liked comments are the ones that are the least controversial.
02:51:16.320
I would say she's not, maybe mentally ill, maybe there's a bit into Lulu there.
02:51:34.580
But the whole R-word thing, I would agree with that.
02:51:38.800
Yeah, but the thing is, she has a legitimate, well-thought-out ideology, whether you agree
02:51:48.100
with it or don't agree with it, which I don't, right?
02:51:50.900
It's at least a legitimate ideology that is well-thought-out.
02:51:54.580
And so therefore, if it is legitimate and well-thought-out, it runs like a social plague in people's minds.
02:52:01.080
So my job is to refute and destroy that ideology so that this plague cannot spread.
02:52:06.680
See, my issue is when you have people like that person on the show, it makes it seem like
02:52:11.360
this is a normal, generalized viewpoint with women when you say they're all feminists.
02:52:16.180
It is a normal, generalized viewpoint for Marxist feminism in colleges.
02:52:20.140
I don't know what Marxist means, so I don't know that.
02:52:22.360
Yeah, well, you not having the requisite knowledge to know these ideologies are real and are prevalent
02:52:27.940
has nothing to do with the fact that they actually are.
02:52:31.400
They really actually are, and they really actually need to be refuted.
02:52:35.340
I've never met anybody in my existence of 37 years that have viewpoints like that, so
02:52:47.380
You, anecdotally, saying to me, well, you know, I haven't met anybody in 37 years who
02:52:52.680
I've met people all over the world that have views like this.
02:52:55.420
Because you debate people and y'all bring on people that are going to have good viewpoints
02:53:01.900
I've been paying attention to politics since I was like 16.
02:53:05.180
In fact, less than that, I was riding around the car with my dad listening to Rush Limbaugh
02:53:11.380
I've been listening to these lunatics for years and years and years.
02:53:14.660
Very few people combat their ideology and do it effectively.
02:53:17.780
Just because you don't know it exists, but at the same time, you're like, society is decadent.
02:53:23.300
It's breaking down, and I just want to leave and go in a field and grow some fucking food
02:53:29.220
It's because nobody's combating the very ideologies that you want to escape from.
02:53:35.300
And so somebody says, okay, well, I'll battle that ideology.
02:53:40.320
No, I'm saying, just because I don't know what the word, whatever word you said, I don't
02:53:44.540
think the general population knows what that means.
02:53:54.000
I insulted you by attacking your intellect, essentially calling BS on your claim of having
02:54:13.280
Guys, if you're enjoying the stream, please like the video.
02:54:15.800
Lucas, chair one, honey, with that fupa, stop making fun of men's appearances that you've
02:54:21.180
never seen and stop calling them mentally deranged.
02:54:23.540
Many of us are married to women way out of your league in every way, continued, to which
02:54:28.820
he says, oh, hold on, there's another one that kind of got interrupted by this Lucas, so.
02:54:34.180
There's also a lot of husbands and wives who watch the show together.
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Brian and Andrew are like Rome and chair one got the Carthage treatment.
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Sarah, Sarah, no time is a good time for goodbyes.
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Okay, and then Lucas continued, saying, including looks-wise, we don't hate women, we hate your
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Finally, if you want to talk shit, find me on X and how me, wife, look, same username,
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tell me if I would even look at you if I was single.
02:55:09.320
Okay, Lucas, my response is, first of all, you said I was insulting.
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I haven't really insulted anyone, I don't think.
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You said Brian's podcast is more evil than OnlyFans, it's a pretty big insult.
02:55:28.380
Social media, social media, I'd say, porn, I mean, what's the word?
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Like, oh, let me forward this, like, completely contentious position.
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Now let me walk it back because it's indefensible.
02:55:45.920
This podcast is viewed all, I'm not even on the same viewpoint.
02:55:59.020
I'm just saying it's pretty popular and, like, it's spreading.
02:56:02.900
Like, I'm not saying you're bad at Andrew Tate.
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And we're making us more and more repulsed by each other.
02:56:18.020
So my show is a response to the overreaches of feminism.
02:56:22.820
Look, the reality is, I'm not going to go on some long monologue as I've gone on before on this.
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But you have to understand, feminism has its claws in pretty much every single realm of society.
02:56:33.280
The people who are speaking like me, who are talking out, like, when it comes to anti-feminist rhetoric, we are the minority.
02:56:42.520
And it's not just, like, culturally or socially mainstream.
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It's backed up and propped up by every single system and institution in this country.
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These universities with billion-dollar, million-dollar endowments.
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You think I have influence with my little podcast here?
02:57:02.180
The feminist studies and gender studies and all these arms of NGOs, the university system, billions of, and there's, you, it's interesting.
02:57:17.800
So you have women who go into these universities.
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Mind you, every single university or college in this country has a woman's studies, a gender studies, or a feminist studies.
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But it does, and there needs to be a counter-narrative because if you wanted to, these students, these young adults, are paying thousands, tens of thousands, even six figures at a very young, impressionable age.
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And you think I'm brainwashing my predominantly, like, 20- to 30-year-old male audience.
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It's actually, I think, 25, the demographic is 25-34, 35-50, excuse me, 44.
02:57:56.540
You have 18-year-old women who are, like, oftentimes required to take, like, a feminist studies course, like, as some sort of, like, general class or something.
02:58:12.640
That's brainwashing at the institutional systemic level.
02:58:18.540
So you have the university-level, billion-dollar endowments at all these universities, that feminist studies program.
02:58:29.020
Then you have journalism, seeped into journalism.
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Hollywood is absolutely in the grasp of feminism.
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Yes, even in the government, feminism has seeped its claws into that, too.
02:58:44.240
So this idea that my podcast is doing any sort of harm when I have 5,000 viewers on average.
02:58:55.120
No, I mean, live, live, you have 5,000 viewers.
02:58:59.280
Yeah, I understand that my reach is greater than my live audience.
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But this idea that, like, ooh, this one really bad podcast is, like, talking about, like, men's rights issues and disagreeing with women.
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Listen, men's issues is important, but the way y'all go about it is not always.
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I was about to answer, and you're laughing at me.
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I think that women should be drafted if there's going to be a draft.
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Men don't have any rights other than being drafted that aren't.
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I know that Obama made it so that y'all could get the baby changers in male bathrooms as
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well for husbands so that he could put a positive energy to being a father and enact that law
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so that they could be positive and that's a right for a man to be able to take care of
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his kid in the bathroom like a woman, in my opinion.
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I do think that there should be a fraternity test before someone has to pay child support.
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I think there's social things that are an issue.
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I think me pointing out that she said fraternity is...
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Well, you weren't the only one who pointed it out.
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I just want to make sure, like, you want to continue.
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Anyways, so, if you were walking in the woods, would you rather come across a bear or a man?
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I answered this question stupidly because I think that statistically there's only three
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How could the Marxist feminist correct you like that?
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Look, we can't hear you if you're not speaking on the microphone.
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But if you're speaking, we have to hear you in the microphone.
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If you need longer, you're welcome to take longer.
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My issue is people correcting me when I get words wrong.
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Also, like the video, guys, if you're enjoying the stream.
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Drop us a follow and a Prime sub if you have one.
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The shout-outs for those of you who have sent in a contribution via Venmo or Cash App.
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If you want 100% of your contribution to go towards us, you can do so.
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Just thought I would throw that out at this opportune moment.
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Let's pull up the dating app review because we have a note here from Tia from your dating app.
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If we're not going on a date, don't swipe right because y'all already know.
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If you broke, I'm not the woman for you because I do not go 50-50.
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My biggest flex is I got poetry published and being an award-winning promo model.
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And my favorite type of dates are my favorite types of dates and outings.
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So like when you say you like to be in charge, what does that mean?
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Okay, so when you say you're going to tell the guy to do...
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If I'm hungry and you tell me you're not doing anything, you should probably go get me food.
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And I'm going to wait and see if he'll, he, you know, offer, because, you know, pretty princess hungry.
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No, that's probably going to come when I'm like engaged or married or something.
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I feel like maybe if my career wasn't so much fun and I didn't love doing it as much, I would depend on a man more for that.
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I actually, you know what, I don't know if this is even a contradiction because you said you like simps, but you want to be in charge.
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So you want a guy to be provide, but not from a position of like, he's like really masculine, he's a provider, he's going to take the lead.
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You want it to be from like a more subservient, like he's a simp.
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Yeah, but also, there's a negative connotation with like the word simp.
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The reason I like to use it is because it scares a man away that isn't going to put in any type of effort or be there to listen or who is only there to want to have sex, you know?
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I like men who are going to do what I want, who worship the ground I walk on, who do this, this, this, and that.
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So, wait, so okay, you want a guy to go, not go 50-50, you want him to pay for stuff, you
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want a simp, but you also want to be in charge, and he has to worship the ground you walk on.
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So when you say in charge, like you're going to make the first move and stuff?
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I would say, maybe, you know, I'm not going to say nothing, but I'll, like, a look.
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Or, like, there'll be a vibe, you know what I'm saying?
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I'm pretty confident, since the show ran back in the 50s, that that's how it was portrayed.
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I don't think in the movies, you would know the 50s rendition better than I would, so.
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So you're saying men should only simp for virgins?
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I'm just saying, like, it makes more sense that he was way into her.
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I mean, sometimes, like, you, I think men can tell when a woman has more going for herself
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If you want to be in charge, but the guy has to take all the initiative, he has to
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make the first move, he has to go for the first kiss, he has to move things forward,
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You want the guy to, like, open the car door, be a gentleman.
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You want a guy to open the car door, maybe pull out your seat for you to sit in.
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Would you want a guy, like, if a guy, another guy disrespected you on a date,
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would you want him to, like, fight you on, or, sorry, not fight you, fight the other
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Maybe not fight, because, like, I don't want, like, any repercussions for them personally,
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But I would definitely want them to stand their ground, talk to the person who's running the
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That could definitely lead to violence if somebody defends your honor.
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Right, but not the gentle giant that I love and care about.
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Well, I mean, how's he going to defend your honor if it doesn't risk offending somebody?
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By making sure he lead a premises, and there's a freaking repercussion.
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If you go to somebody, like, what are you talking about?
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If somebody's disrespecting me publicly, they're causing a public disturbance.
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Yeah, but what I'm saying is that whatever guy you're with, if he goes over to a guy and
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he's like, hey, you don't talk to my girl like, hang on, hang on, hang on, you don't
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talk to my girl like that, that does put him at risk of bodily harm the second he does
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But most men want to stick up for their women and be there.
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You said that the word simp being abused and ruining love.
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I feel like it's some urban dictionary five times down.
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Well, so I guess moving on to the next thing, you said that you like modern dating and you
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Because when you were on Bumble, you've had like 4,000 potential matches and out of those
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So like only 4,000 matches, only 200 of them reached your standards.
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Because I ask you questions and you answer not my question.
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Right now, it don't matter because I'm making my own bread.
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Like it's not even, it's not even like what you're making because I'm not moving in with
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Right now, it's like how much are you willing to invest in me as a person?
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Not as like what you're making in a year because I really don't care.
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Does that mean just like give me a sandwich and shit like that?
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I mean, give me a sandwich like I put on there, take me shopping, cliff jumping, trips.
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There's other things you could do to show a woman that you care about her.
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How is he going to take you shopping without money?
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I'm trying to tell you there's no limit on it for me because the amount don't matter.
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I feel like to take care of me and Polly take over at least $120,000 a year to do the
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Do you expect him to pay to spend $120,000 a year?
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I think he should be investing in himself, doing what he needs to do to progress in the future.
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I'm just asking for you, for the beneficiary, how much do you estimate this man's going to
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have to spend in order to take care of you yearly?
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I can give you what I spend on myself a month when it comes to my nails and my hair and all
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So you want him to spend at least $1,000 a month on you?
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That's kind of the fun part for me and the part that's important is seeing what they will
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It's like, I'll tell you, but it's like after a while, it's like you should know, this is
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What ways would he invest in you that you would see him as a potential partner, even
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Probably like, because my promo modeling, I'm an independent contractor.
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So I push myself and do reviews for other businesses.
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So if he was helping push my business, I am a brand ambassador for a nail girly.
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So if he's giving out cards for me and stuff, that's an important one.
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The, probably the trips and excursions is a big one.
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So you're telling, saying with no money, what can you do?
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What you're saying with no money, what can you do?
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Even if he's making zero money, if you are still driving for something, like if you're doing
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real estate or in school or doing something that is.
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So he can benefit you by like doing business legwork.
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And he could also benefit me in like, like picking like cars.
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Are you ever going to take this guy out on dates with your own money?
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But like, there's a base sum and I pitch in maybe like 30%.
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I, I'm not, I'm not bringing anything to the table because I'm the guest of all that.
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So the guy with not a lot of resources or almost no resources, he can assist your business
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by doing a bunch of legwork for you, but he essentially gets zero out of it, right?
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I think men don't get to experience me like that.
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If I'm, if I love you and you continuing to support me even when you have zero money,
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because when I get with you, you're going to have some money.
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When they ask me for my information, I'm not going to get with a bum, period.
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But if they ask me for my information and I got them and they're very driven and they
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got a job at the very least, but then they have no job, I'm going to stick it out because
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So to get with you, what's the minimum amount for that?
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You just got to have, like I said, probably a thousand.
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You said on excursions, like food, nail hairs, like I feel like I said a thousand already.
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Like that, like you, like you asked me like what was everything overall, like in a month?
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And I said like a thousand dollars or a little more.
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And like fat, like I like to, I'm on my feet a lot as a model, so I like to get foot massages
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So it's like, if I'm going and I already scheduled, he could just pay for his and he
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could come with me and I'm not going to expect him to pay for it.
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So I feel like it's like a, it's like a mutual respect, but at the end of the day, I want
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Eventually, if you are on a path to have more money than me, that's valid.
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But if you're on a path to have less money than you?
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So you do want your guy to end up making more money than you.
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And these men get the luxury of being in your presence and helping your business.
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Like I've done, um, like a lot of events and they just get to come with me, you know,
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Like, let's say that you, do you, do you like, uh, are your parents both married?
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Um, no, my, my, well, my mother is married now, but they're divorced.
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So, so, but just backing up, um, does your mom have male friends who've been like a part of your
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They're not hella around, but, uh, she has a, she has a husband.
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So if, if he was sitting down, right, with his son, would you advise his son to date you?
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Well, I mean, do you think he should advise his son that he should date you if he's, the
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son's like, dad, I'm looking for the right girl.
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I'm kind of in, I'm kind of in the middle of, of different things.
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But would you, if he was telling his son, right, to date a woman like you is what I'm
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asking, I think if, if you have the means to date a woman like you, cause a lot of the
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time, the men who are bums and don't have no money, don't have a car, they're just trying
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But doesn't that seem like it's way easier than getting your fucking coffee and promoting
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Is he spending thousands of dollars on you in the hopes that maybe something will happen
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rather than just going, ah, I would just smash if I can and then find a woman who's way less
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Cause I'm a, I'm, I have a lot of goals and I'm very driven.
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Which majority of people need two incomes to make a house work.
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A lot of men want to be stay at home dads these days.
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Most people marry in the same socioeconomic status that they're in.
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That's true because that's what women will marry is at least a man who is within, who
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But he's talking about people in general, not women, not men.
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So they do care if they can't afford a household.
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Listen, the man, the man themselves don't care that much about women's economic goals.
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If they can't afford rent and they want a family, then yes, they do.
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Well, we just agree that the majority marry the same.
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But you contradict yourself here because you say they marry people based on proximity.
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Usually the people that you're going to meet are going to be at like work.
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So they're probably going to be making around the same amount of money that you do.
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But men do marry poor women, especially rich men.
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Women do not marry poor or rich women don't marry poor men.
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And women of good high social economic status, they usually still marry up, not down.
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I mean, I'm just asking, if men don't really care, why, I mean, obviously, I agree with
03:22:21.020
If they had access to only poor women, they would marry them.
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I mean, no, I think within today's society that most people generally want someone who at least is able to take care of themselves.
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Women seem to want to have men who make more than them.
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And men seem to care less about if women make more than them, same as them, or less than them.
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I think a lot of women really do invest in what they perceive as potential.
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You know, either he's starting a career, he's doing something new, he's not making a lot of money.
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But it depends on the age bracket that you're in.
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But I'm just telling you that if most men, if you had to pick the choice, smoking hot 10 Starbucks barista, right, who treats you well, you can marry her, right?
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You're going to be taken care of her the rest of your life.
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Or you can marry kind of like the three who makes as much as you, right, or a little bit more than you maybe.
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Well, what I'm saying is if they have access to it, they will, yes.
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If they don't have the access, they won't because they don't have the access.
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And I feel like that ties into what I was saying because this man has access to me when I'm very selective with even who my friends are.
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Yeah, but the man who's in the situation where he can have access to you based on the huge list and criteria that you have,
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And all they need to do is just be less obnoxious or whatever from their perspective.
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But you probably don't think I'm obnoxious at all.
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I'm just saying from their perspective, all that they would have to do is say, okay, this woman over here has less negative trait than this woman does.
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For the same amount of investment, they're going to go for that.
03:24:31.700
I think on the previous show, you said women are the prize.
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Because, so first of all, the men reach out to us, right?
03:24:47.960
Yes, but it's starting to change and hopefully it'll change more and more and more.
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That's actually the best argument I've heard for women being the prize.
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If I thought you were the prize, I would be doing that for you, for a guy, you know?
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Although this is, this is, but it's really funny that you bring this up, right?
03:25:12.640
I think that this is rooted in cultural tradition, right?
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That is based around a kind of a remnant idea of not quite chivalry, but something close
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to that came from a kind of 16, 1700, you know, European Commonwealth traditions when
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Of course, men always approached women and they had to go through the father.
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They had to go through the family, things like this.
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And there's a remnant of that, that went over into American dating and European dating,
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Eroded, eroded more and more and more and more and more.
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And it's funny when women bitch kind of about Andrew Tate, but Andrew Tate's popularity is
03:25:54.320
because he's like, nah, you don't have to do that.
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If you work on yourself and you end up with a bunch of cash and you end up in really good
03:26:08.220
So the, and his proof for this, which is pretty decent proof is that the men who are in a
03:26:17.600
And good looking fly women out from all over the world whenever they want to.
03:26:21.560
And they're contacted by them just based purely either on fame or money or things like this.
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So he seems to have a great point here that women will be the pursuers if you are in a
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higher socioeconomic status that you put yourself in.
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So he's like, why waste your time pursuing them when you can do A, B, and C, and then
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There's a lot of resistance to that, but he seems to have a fairly valid point from my
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Once we have her back, we'll get into some of the rest of the show here.
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So ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to 10.
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So, I mean, you wanted evidence of the sisterhood.
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No, I just expected her to say 10 because she's a model.
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So, I mean, this idea that, like, if you're a model, ergo, like, you must be a 10.
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Yeah, there is a lot of Instagram models out there.
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I just have to say it doesn't mean you're an actual model.
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For the 10 and the 9, it sounded like you almost wanted to say 10, though.
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Just, like, a smidge of humility in there came up.
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Or should they view themselves as 10s, I guess?
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Yeah, I think they should view themselves as 10s.
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I know, but it's just, do I think all men are 10s?
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Like, are you saying, like, if I find them attractive, like, to rate them 10s?
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Like, you acknowledge, I guess they could rate themselves as 10, but do you think all women
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Like, if she thought she wasn't a 10, and she still, like, if people think that she's
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not a 10, I mean, and she rates herself a 10, I would be like, okay, you're a 10, you
03:29:52.140
And, uh, and then do you think all women are, well, you said you were nine, so I don't
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know if you're going to say that, uh, do you think women should, like, rate themselves
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I do think women should rate themselves higher, especially when, like, the reason I rated
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myself a 9 instead of a 10 is because I'm not exactly who I want to be yet, and I know
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I can have, there is a better version of myself in the future, so that's why I didn't
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And I also have, like, things I'm working on myself, like, mentally and physically and
03:30:24.680
Uh, I do have a question on this, um, can you guys tell me for, I want to do for the
03:30:30.200
10, the 9, and the 8, can you tell me a, someone that we could Google, like, a guy, it could
03:30:37.680
be a celebrity, could be just some dude on Instagram, um, who you think is your looks
03:30:45.480
Like, yeah, that you think it would be, like, okay, we're, like, on the, in the same league
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Yeah, like, tell me a guy who you think is a 10.
03:31:00.880
Well, tell me a guy that you think is a 10 in looks.
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No, you are a part of it, but I'm starting with, with.
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Okay, who's a guy who you think is, like, uh, a 9?
03:31:25.520
He was, um, the man on Grown-ish, and he was also on Austin and Allie.
03:31:49.120
Yeah, the rat tail, it, it, it, it, it may go as he grows, but if it stays, that's cool
03:31:58.880
Is that, chat, do you think that's a fair assessment?
03:32:06.660
Um, and then do you have a guy who you think is a 10?
03:32:09.600
Um, yeah, there's, like, an artist, like, that I listen to.
03:32:18.880
It's usually bad if they bring up a musical artist, but we'll see how this goes.
03:32:31.800
Yeah, that's, like, his more recent look right there with the black hoodie.
03:32:42.560
You know how, no, no, you know how he was saying, he's a dog.
03:32:45.120
You know how he was saying, you're sitting there like a dog.
03:32:47.640
The weird, it's pretty, like, the eyebrow thing, and I don't know.
03:32:52.340
It makes it difficult because he's got, like, a kind of, um, like,
03:32:56.340
atypical sort of style to him that makes it difficult to do an assessment here.
03:33:00.640
Um, also, is there a component here where you're, like, you really like his music,
03:33:04.140
so that's going to, like, amplify your attraction for him?
03:33:09.100
Is there, is this scale just based on appearance?
03:33:15.960
Um, and then going around the table, and, oh, I forgot how to show you.
03:33:19.780
I'll, I'll come back to the, to the, back there to figure out how to pull up all the stuff
03:33:24.620
from Discord, but, uh, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
03:33:31.000
Um, so, going around the table, you're 37, do you think you'll be better looking in 10
03:33:37.380
And you're 37, do you think you were better looking 10 years ago at 27?
03:33:52.440
So, uh, let's say 33, your peak, going back to, uh, 23, better looking at 23 or a 33?
03:34:00.680
I don't know if you remember the, like, the 90s and 2000s, it was very bad, stylish and
03:34:05.900
makeup-wise, so I would say, I, I was born in the 80s, um, I grew up in the 90s.
03:34:13.140
But I'm asking, but when she, I'm saying, when I was 23 in my 20s, no, I'm saying in
03:34:37.780
Going back 10 years, better looking at 23 or peak 33?
03:34:42.640
I had horrible style and the emo haircut and all that.
03:34:46.820
Kenzie, you're 38, better looking at, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years
03:34:54.380
And then going backwards, you're, uh, 38, better looking 10 years ago at 28?
03:35:00.920
I, I think it would be a varied of metrics, but yeah.
03:35:16.780
Um, I think I'll still look good, honestly, at 43.
03:35:30.100
Yeah, I won't look, I'll look better at 33 than 43.
03:35:38.400
Okay, uh, you're 21, better looking in 10 years time at 31?
03:35:58.480
I ain't doing, like, fucking math equations here.
03:36:09.260
Uh, you are 33, better looking in 10 years time at 43?
03:36:20.420
And then you're 33, were you better looking at 23, 10 years ago?
03:36:23.400
My body was better, but I think I've grown into my facial face.
03:36:33.120
By the way, uh, just, I know the lean for the mic is a bit awkward there.
03:36:37.340
You want to scoot your mic back this way, just so you're not, like, awkwardly.
03:36:41.180
Uh, and then you're 21, better looking in 10 years time at 31?
03:36:46.980
Um, all right, so I need to get up so I can pull up some things we need to react to.
03:36:54.240
Um, Andrew, do you want to ask the panel a question for a little bit while I do that?
03:36:58.160
So, when, when we ask about, uh, the rating one through 10, what do you guys think we're
03:37:06.580
Uh, I thought it was more of an assessment in terms of, uh, your, like, how you would be
03:37:28.580
No, I definitely thought, like, as a, sorry, I definitely thought, like, as a whole person,
03:37:39.460
So, I think you were talking about just the aesthetics.
03:37:44.940
Why do you think it is that so many women, even though the question is asked, based on
03:37:54.120
They rate themselves on a metric other than looks.
03:37:59.500
Um, I, I think as a woman, um, we are attracted to different aspects than just looks.
03:38:08.960
And so, that's kind of, like, an internal, um, you know, if, if someone in looks,
03:38:14.940
looks is an eight or a nine, but has a shit personality, then I would reduce them down
03:38:20.620
But if someone may be in looks is a five or a six, but we're just so compatible, meets
03:38:25.320
all, checks all the boxes, then I would definitely increase it to an eight or a nine.
03:38:29.000
Um, I mean, like, for datability, yeah, on that scale of datability, but looks is a different
03:38:44.120
Just, uh, just real quick going around the table.
03:38:56.720
So then, the question is, out of that percentage pool of good-looking men that there are, what
03:39:08.660
Of good-looking men out of the whole pool available to your demographic for dating, what would you
03:39:50.920
So, three out of ten men that you see you're attracted to?
03:39:52.820
Yeah, like, so if I go out, I literally, like, literally will see, like, five or less.
03:40:00.360
Um, yeah, even, like, because I do go out and it's literally, like, all ages.
03:40:05.160
Are we bringing up 80-year-olds in our ratings?
03:40:12.180
No, I don't think the majority of the population are bringing up all ages.
03:40:37.720
Do you find three out of ten 50-year-olds attractive?
03:40:40.020
There are some good-looking 50-year-olds, but, like, right here.
03:40:51.500
I mean, but it's from 20-year-old to 50-year-old.
03:40:55.180
Yeah, and there's lots of silver foxes, you know?
03:40:59.400
But, like, only 50-year-olds, I would say, like.
03:41:17.640
Around that age bracket, like, 40 to 50, 10 to 20.
03:41:21.640
Um, I feel like because of my job and, like, where I go, I feel like it's higher.
03:41:33.380
Yeah, just men that you literally see everywhere.
03:41:37.360
Because I feel like I'm around men who take care of themselves for a long time.
03:41:44.980
Yeah, and when you look around and you see men, do you find half of them attractive?
03:41:50.760
They have to be, like, atrociously ugly and out of shape for me to not find them attractive, really, if I'm being honest.
03:41:59.460
Like, in my opinion, coming from, like, a beauty industry.
03:42:06.800
And then you did say that you think there's way more attractive women than men, right?
03:42:11.680
So, then what's the percentage of attractive women, then?
03:42:17.080
No, I feel like because women are more likely to take care of themselves in the long run, there's more attractive women.
03:42:40.400
So, 60% of women in that age bracket are attractive and 40% of men are.
03:42:48.040
So, how many men do you find attractive within the age bracket of, like, 20 to 50?
03:42:53.120
I would say there's a little bit more in L.A. because of, I guess, the culture and what L.A. attracts.
03:43:08.000
So, 10 to 20%, that's a pretty common answer, right, for what women find attractive.
03:43:15.840
So, here's what we found, and at least the studies that we've looked at.
03:43:22.800
I think Brian can actually pull them up on what women find attractive or don't find attractive.
03:43:27.000
But you can see for mate selection that if women only find 10% or 20% of the entire dating pool that's available to them attractive, most men, they're not going to find most men attractive, right?
03:43:41.680
And if you think that there's way more women who are attractive than there are men, then that lower or lessens the amount that are available to them even more, right?
03:43:53.280
So, if this is the case, right, then this percentage of men, the small percentage of men who women do find attractive, more women are going to want to get with those men, right?
03:44:06.100
So, those men have options that other men don't have.
03:44:09.360
Yeah, so, then this is called hypergamy, the idea of hypergamy, which is that women generally will go to this top percentile of men, not because they're rich and this and that, but just because that's the only percentage of pool they generally find to be attractive.
03:44:30.060
I would say for me, I mean, I definitely give people chances, even if I don't find them attractive, just because people could be very attractive.
03:44:36.760
I personally, I just don't find them attractive.
03:44:39.940
But if a man was available who you did find attractive versus a man who wasn't, you would select for the man who you found attractive, right?
03:44:47.680
I think for me, it would depend on different criteria.
03:44:50.580
But if a man had the criteria that you wanted and was attractive, and another man had the criteria you wanted and was not attractive, wouldn't you still select for the one you had attraction for?
03:44:59.060
I would say most likely, but I think it would also depend on, like, the uniqueness of the relationship.
03:45:05.440
But you're not going to want to have physical relationships with men you don't find attractive.
03:45:10.920
Generally, people don't want to have physical relationships with people they don't find attractive, right?
03:45:15.380
I'm just saying that I think people can become more attractive depending on certain criteria of their personality, and people can become less attractive.
03:45:21.900
Don't disagree, but you have to have a shot, right?
03:45:24.320
And the best way to get a shot is to be attractive to the other sex, yeah?
03:45:31.560
I've dated more people you could consider, like, less than average in attractiveness because of personality.
03:45:52.660
This is your, like, age advancement photos with the AI, so...
03:48:13.140
Blake, can you go ahead and go grab the stuff from downstairs, like, Lash?
03:48:39.140
So, Andrew, we're going to have pineapple pizza here for the panelists.
03:48:42.180
Uh, while we're doing that, I'm going to drop the...
03:48:55.040
And sometimes we'll, like, do a drop in the TTS for, like, the pizza party segment.
03:49:07.540
While we're waiting for that, though, let's do this.
03:49:10.660
Um, we need to do the gender swaps, which we're going to do.
03:49:15.360
The woman in chair one is gorgeous and is a 10.
03:49:26.360
It's, like, Jen, two underscores, stone, two underscores.
03:49:33.860
If you guys want to get a read in, $100 for read, TTS is $200.
03:50:01.460
Did we pull up the photo of you eating the pineapple pizza?
03:50:08.060
No, it's not the first time I've ever had pizza ever.
03:50:12.000
It's not the first time I've ever had pineapple, no.
03:50:19.320
So, Andrew's gone, so I'll get into her notes when she's back.
03:50:28.900
So, you were on the show, I think, two weeks ago, three weeks ago or something.
03:50:32.460
There was a bit of a hidden exchange between me, you, Andrew, you, and it stemmed from you saying that either I or Andrew or both of us have low IQ and we're stupid and making jokes about, like, other stuff.
03:50:46.780
And then Andrew made a joke about deportation, which you were, like, deeply offended by.
03:50:57.200
So, do you guys want to have, like, a quick, like, you know, just political debate on, like, illegal immigration?
03:51:05.300
It's just, I just find it kind of weird how, like, oh, my God, people shouldn't be here illegally.
03:51:10.460
They're criminals, like, what, coming over here is literally a crime.
03:51:17.100
But it's, like, this is stolen land, and it's, like, known to be stolen land.
03:51:23.600
Yeah, do you know the history of, like, Mexico City?
03:51:33.060
I can't believe that they went and butchered all of the indigenous people in Mexico.
03:51:42.300
Went through and butchered all the indigenous people and stole that land.
03:51:45.280
I thought mestizos were the, like, the colonized...
03:51:52.040
So what happened is Spaniards came over, and then they mixed with the indigenous people and created
03:52:14.760
All land, all modern land is stolen from some group or another group.
03:52:23.800
It changed hands multiple times between many, many groups.
03:52:34.600
So that was like a mixture of geographical locations that they came into.
03:52:40.920
Like Cortez went through Aztec lands in South America.
03:52:44.540
I don't remember the exact geographical location, but...
03:52:53.520
Mestizos butchered the indigenous population for sure.
03:52:57.980
I don't know why it is that I can't immigrate there.
03:53:00.680
I can't just walk across the border there because, well, they arrest you and throw your ass back to your own country.
03:53:06.520
It's pretty easy to walk across the border to Mexico.
03:53:10.440
And then if you're there illegally, they ship you back here.
03:53:14.140
Because you're not supposed to be in their country.
03:53:16.180
Because they have a constitutionally elected government and...
03:53:28.200
When people come from South of Mexico into Mexico, they will keep them out.
03:53:33.060
And they have the Mexican military on their southern borders keeping out people who try to migrate through Mexico.
03:53:39.340
That's what happened with the whole caravan thing.
03:53:42.300
They were literally trying to keep them out of their nation.
03:53:44.320
So I don't know why it is that Mexico can have a border policy, but we can't.
03:53:52.760
If we have a declining population and with births, why should we get rid of the illegals when we need them for our economy?
03:54:06.960
So first of all, I don't think that you need to have a continuously growing GDP.
03:54:12.920
It's not necessary for the health and welfare of the nation.
03:54:16.840
And then the second thing is, is that I think if you're going to spend your resources on basically illegals who come in on health care, things like this, rather than supplementing your indigenous population so that they can have more live births, that seems really stupid to me.
03:54:33.600
Like, why wouldn't you allocate your resources to your domestic population?
03:54:37.660
It just seems like you want to kind of force women into having babies instead of bringing in people who already have babies.
03:54:44.420
When have I ever advocated that women should be forced to do anything?
03:54:54.860
Do you want to actually contend with the actual topic at the end, though?
03:55:03.680
It started because when you were gone, I was talking about sin stuff.
03:55:07.440
Besides that, you said you're against most abortions.
03:55:12.920
Listen, it's because the birth rates go down, and that's on the show a lot of times that's a topic on anti-abortion.
03:55:20.840
And I'm just like, why kick them out if we need their population to keep birth rates up?
03:55:28.380
Yeah, but this is a really strange argument because if we didn't have a reproduction,
03:55:32.900
crisis, we wouldn't need to be importing anybody from anywhere.
03:55:39.820
They're already here, which is a domestic population, and we're kicking them out when we need them.
03:55:46.640
So for one thing, you're talking about a million people a year who immigrate legally.
03:55:52.360
Our population boomed from 150 million to 330 million, right on par with the immigration policy of a million people coming in per year.
03:56:00.180
So the thing is, it's like, how much more do we need to import?
03:56:04.740
What happens, by the way, is that when these people come in, when they come in, within a generation, they're right down to the low reproduction rates, just like everybody else is.
03:56:15.940
I thought, yeah, I'd have to look that up, but I think it's kind of the opposite.
03:56:22.100
So we're going to do the gender swap portion here, but, I mean, just to your point, it is a crime.
03:56:34.800
Yeah, but I don't know, just like, marking them as like, oh, you're a criminal.
03:56:41.040
It's just like, I don't know, people look at criminals as like really bad people, like thieves and like murders.
03:56:50.120
And, you know, just like abuser, like abusive people.
03:56:54.300
And like the people who come into this country.
03:57:03.300
And the people come here to live a better life, to work hard, provide for their family, because, you know, they just want to do better.
03:57:13.940
Nobody's disputing the motivation of wanting to go to a country that isn't yours for a better life.
03:57:19.220
The question becomes, does the indigenous population of that country, the people who are in that country, who are citizens of that country, have a say in who gets to come in and who doesn't?
03:57:29.580
Just like you have a say as to who comes into your house and doesn't come into your house.
03:57:33.300
So, the Japanese, for instance, they don't allow mass migration of any kind.
03:57:40.840
It's like, oh, you can't come into our country.
03:57:51.400
And you can come here and have a vacation and then go back home.
03:57:54.040
And we can go to your country with a passport and go on vacation and then come back home.
03:58:00.300
That doesn't mean that you have citizenship and that you can then drain the coffers for social welfare and drain the coffers for medical care.
03:58:09.220
So, like, why do you think that the citizenry of the United States is going to want to supplement people who aren't from their people group?
03:58:20.660
And don't, like, white Americans, like, they go live in Mexico because it's cheaper and stuff.
03:58:26.620
Yeah, they have to go through the same process, though.
03:58:32.040
And then they have to apply for Mexican citizenship if they want to stay there long term.
03:58:40.960
They just have to come back every certain amount of time and they abide by that instead of actually getting.
03:58:45.900
But, by the way, for the Mexican government, this is a good thing, right?
03:58:49.260
Because they get all sorts of money from the gringo who brings in that gringo greenback.
03:58:54.260
And that's worth a lot more than the Mexican peso is.
03:58:57.720
So, they love having tourists come in and things like that.
03:59:00.860
It's not the same fiscal drain on them as it is on us.
03:59:07.440
Not to have vacationers come in, but to have people come in who are at the, like, lowest economic status you could possibly be at.
03:59:16.840
And then immediately they come in and get welfare.
03:59:21.900
They get all of this literally on our tax dollar.
03:59:25.340
Now, it's really easy for you to say, well, we should do that.
03:59:30.900
Like, the immigrants here, like, we work hard and everything.
03:59:46.300
I saw what immigrant labor did in the lettuce fields and when they were working in the vineyards, especially.
03:59:53.240
I see it in Michigan when they're picking fruit.
03:59:58.400
We have migrant work programs so that migrants can come in and work and then go back to their home country.
04:00:03.540
A majority of immigrants are those people, too.
04:00:09.740
It's just like you're deporting hard-working immigrants.
04:00:21.160
So, what they do is they come in and they get American dollars here and then they send it back to their origin nation untaxed.
04:00:28.000
Okay, but literally, like, you guys go into our country, whatever.
04:00:35.860
Is the United States your country or is Mexico your country?
04:00:49.780
Well, I'm Mexican-American, but I do have family in Mexico.
04:00:53.900
You have family there, but who are your countrymen?
04:00:56.540
I think she's highlighting her ethnic background.
04:01:05.140
So, anyway, I was just curious, though, if we get back to this.
04:01:14.300
Yeah, so, like, if Mexico and America went to war, who do you have your loyalty to?
04:01:26.280
Do you think that maybe that's a problem with having immigrants in?
04:01:33.820
I would do a lot to protect, like, Mexicans and everything, honestly.
04:01:39.040
So, maybe for the people who are here, right, who, when we hear this from even people who
04:01:45.620
are born here with American citizenship, if my country goes to war with your country,
04:01:49.920
I'm going to side with that other country and not my own country.
04:01:52.960
Since I'm born here, like, I can't really do anything about the country.
04:01:55.560
That's true, except advocate on behalf of the enemy who we could be at war with.
04:02:00.160
Since I live here, I can't really do anything, like, about it.
04:02:04.860
And you can advocate on behalf of potential enemies of the United States.
04:02:08.380
So, if we go to war with Mexico, now you have loyalties to Mexico and not to the United States.
04:02:13.120
That's a massive problem with immigrants coming in, especially en masse from a single country,
04:02:18.800
is now we have dual loyalties we have to deal with.
04:02:31.660
So, let's say that there's millions of people who are like-minded like you who said,
04:02:35.360
well, I would prefer, actually, to advocate for Mexico if there was a war between Mexico and America, right?
04:02:43.060
And we drafted tens of thousands of people who thought like that.
04:02:46.680
Now you have soldiers in the field who are willing to shoot other soldiers in the back, right?
04:02:58.000
Where does her loyalties lie to the United States or Mexico in the event of a war?
04:03:24.220
The Japanese who lived here in America, we interned them in internment camps under lock
04:03:29.420
and key and armed guards because we're at war with their origination.
04:03:33.100
And we couldn't take the risk that they were going to sabotage or kill our soldiers on behalf
04:03:39.220
Like, this has historically happened that we've had to do that.
04:03:53.760
I wouldn't, like, live there because I was born and raised here, so I'm very Americanized.
04:03:58.680
So I wouldn't, like, fit in completely with Mexico.
04:04:15.820
So let's do the gender swap, but skip one person.
04:04:20.240
All right, so the question here is, can you hide the thing in the StreamYard thing, the
04:04:33.560
Okay, so the question here is, would you date yourself, I guess, but as a male?
04:05:10.120
Like, I would give him a chance with the facial hair.
04:06:32.140
That's just not, like, that does not look correct at all.
04:06:37.860
Who's that, like, old, this is old school YouTube.
04:06:41.920
There's this girl, like, crazy ex-girlfriend or something, and she had these, like, crazy eyes.
04:07:04.900
That's, that's what it, uh, that's what it looks like.
04:07:09.520
And then we need to do hers now that she's back at the table.
04:07:17.320
So, so, would you date the male version of you?
04:07:55.740
I wonder what native Mexicans would say if 25 million Chinese illegally arrived into Mexico
04:08:01.760
and began to drain public services or make political demands.
04:08:18.840
But, like, let's say I wanted to, and, like, let's say just a bunch of Americans around us,
04:08:22.860
whatever country it is, wanted to move to Japan, for example.
04:08:26.840
Uh, and they were just, they went there illegally, and they were like, okay, I, would the Japanese
04:08:33.620
not have a right to remove them from the country?
04:08:47.720
So, I wouldn't, I'm not gonna be the person to be like, yes, like, take them out, Japan.
04:08:54.340
Like, you know, you're there, but as long as you're, you're there, like, you're, you're
04:08:59.340
working, you're there for a better life, you wanna, you know, do better for yourself
04:09:03.380
and stuff, and, I mean, but you're there illegally and hiding and stuff and all that.
04:09:13.720
I'm not the type of person, get out, like, unless, unless you are, like, a murder.
04:09:21.220
Um, okay, I guess going back to Jen, then, some of your, or you had something you wanted
04:09:31.220
Uh, so, Jen, you had said, hold on, I'm getting back to your notes here, because we kind of cut
04:09:46.220
I hadn't slept the night before, so I was, like, keyword warrior.
04:09:49.000
Okay, so you're, yeah, so we were, we were kind of talking about how the show is just
04:09:54.400
We talked about that, uh, and this was, this is where we kind of stopped.
04:09:58.720
So you said, considering how much domestic violence there is in the world, you don't think
04:10:04.640
it is very healthy to spread rhetoric about women to mentally damage
04:10:10.920
So first, I'm just, when it comes to mentally damaged men, hold on.
04:10:18.400
Um, when it comes to mentally damaged men, I, I'll just defer to Hitchens Razor, that
04:10:25.200
which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
04:10:28.320
You have no evidence that my viewership is mentally damaged.
04:10:34.300
I'd say, like, the comments where it's really hateful, I'd say those people are pretty mentally
04:10:47.640
It's some of the guests you have, which means it is kind of, sort of related to you.
04:10:52.660
And it's just like your generalized turn around.
04:10:54.500
I'm a, I'm, uh, responsible for what my guests say.
04:11:04.420
Your claim is, uh, I, sole proprietor, whatever podcast, my business, my show, uh, you said
04:11:12.540
that, uh, that the show is just as harmful as OnlyFans and society.
04:11:19.020
So you might not have, like, maybe you find me more agreeable, but what rhetoric is being
04:11:37.500
I have to bring up past episodes to remember all of us.
04:11:40.020
You have a lot of episodes and I have a short term, you know, memory.
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Just about what women want and that we use people for money.
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Most of the people you've had on the show's names other than him.
04:12:21.420
Transactional people want that, but not the average woman doesn't want a transactional situation.
04:12:29.520
We want love and like a partnership, not status.
04:12:35.780
I think that they're more likely to be like abusive or more likely to not.
04:12:44.660
And if you have a position of power to be like narcissistic or sociopathic, psychopathic, because you have the charisma and the, look it up.
04:12:57.920
I would prefer somebody to be normal and I'm normal.
04:13:02.280
And I just don't think that's represented a lot on the show is just normal people dating.
04:13:08.680
So you think it's going to lead to domestic violence?
04:13:12.120
If it can't, when you, when you like, you gotta let me finish.
04:13:14.880
Like, can you just let me finish a sentence without interrupting?
04:13:23.440
So you're saying that the rhetoric on this show is going to lead to domestic violence against women.
04:13:49.520
However, when Andrew goes to the extremes of saying, oh, is it really submitting if you
04:13:55.140
have limits to that, which are like boundaries, like you have boundaries, that is when it
04:14:06.340
It sounds to me like you just always hear what you want to hear, regardless of what's
04:14:11.960
You say, well, if there's, you say like multiple times, you say, well, if there's, if there's
04:14:16.860
a limit to it, then you're not actually submitting.
04:14:23.180
I'll let you steel man the position that you think I have.
04:14:30.660
That if you're like, oh, if women have limits to their submission, are they really submitting?
04:14:50.000
Do I give prescriptions for when women should get divorced in a Christian marriage?
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You know all of them except the ones that I give.
04:15:22.720
Well, I thought you just said a second ago that I said there's no limits.
04:15:25.660
I'm just responding to what you say on the show.
04:15:29.660
You're not really submissive if you have boundaries.
04:15:32.260
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
04:15:37.440
So what the suggestion here is based on the rhetoric that is espoused on the podcast, domestic violence is being increased.
04:15:51.420
I'm saying it like when I hear stuff about a woman to submit and there's...
04:16:04.640
Well, actually, wouldn't that actually lead to a decrease?
04:16:07.700
If there's no boundaries to the submission, would that lead to a decrease?
04:16:10.360
Well, because some things that men could ask women to do can be abusive.
04:16:17.980
Give me an example of what you're talking about.
04:16:38.520
It just sounds like a personal preference to me.
04:16:41.360
Did you take all the pineapple off your pizza, Andrew?
04:16:46.980
Do you think that there's women who have a preference where they don't want to make
04:16:50.340
any financial decisions and they just want to do what their husband says?
04:16:53.660
Yeah, but there should be limits to everything.
04:16:57.660
If women's working at home and they don't have money for their own shoes, but they're...
04:17:07.340
There's something called mind your own fucking business.
04:17:09.940
There's a lot of things that you talk on that's not your business and you still do it.
04:17:14.260
Do you know what business is and how you should mind it?
04:17:18.040
It's not for you to make a determination that a woman needs to have her own money for
04:17:41.900
When we have jobs, why would we get rid of our jobs?
04:17:47.020
So I don't even understand what the argument is.
04:17:50.500
If you are advocating that a woman needs to be able to be a sassy pants, I have my own
04:17:57.140
money, I'm a girl boss, should you marry her if she's not in alignment with your goals?
04:18:06.920
Alignment with goals is different than getting married.
04:18:09.440
My goal is to have a woman, let's say, who submits to me.
04:18:20.000
Is me making the financial decision that you can't go spend money?
04:18:35.040
So let's say you go out and you spend $4,000 you really shouldn't have spent.
04:18:40.980
Let's say you go spend $4,000 you shouldn't have spent.
04:18:43.180
So I cut off your credit cards and you can't spend anything.
04:18:52.160
So I guess cutting women off from money isn't always abusive, is it?
04:18:56.580
So the thing is, it's like having alignment and perspective of if a man wants to make the
04:19:01.620
financial decisions, that's kind of, that's not only not abusive, but you, what you do
04:19:09.380
If the man is, so it's baked into the hypothetical, the man shouldn't be abusive.
04:19:15.620
But give me examples of what you're talking about.
04:19:20.560
If a woman's being abused, what is that though?
04:19:29.160
I'm saying if they're put in a financial situation where they cannot leave and they are not getting
04:19:42.160
So you, so you think that I advocate, so wait, you think that I advocate that women who
04:19:47.300
are dependent on men, that the men don't feed them or get them clothes?
04:19:58.600
Then what, what is the abuse you're talking about then?
04:20:06.120
About submissions, you're not really submitting.
04:20:10.140
If, if you have objections at all, then you're not really submitting.
04:20:14.200
I heard you say that like multiple shows, that's what I'm, have a problem with.
04:20:32.560
Again, if you don't defer to the man, you're not actually submitting to him.
04:20:40.500
But in argument, you said you're not really submitting if you have objections at all.
04:20:47.800
In fact, I've said multiple times that the proportion of submission has to comport with
04:20:53.780
So a man can't ask you to do things like jump off a building and you go, no, you're not
04:21:01.140
I'll send you the clips, but it sounded pretty bad when I heard it.
04:21:15.900
So again, the harmful rhetoric from the show is leading to increases in domestic violence
04:21:27.120
You being on the show could lead to an increase in male murders.
04:21:30.500
I don't know how to contend with something could happen.
04:21:33.480
I think if someone doesn't have good morals, then they shouldn't be thinking that women
04:21:48.740
No, if you don't have morals, you shouldn't be thinking that a woman should commit.
04:22:08.820
Then y'all should both leave because it's toxic.
04:22:20.040
You said men with no virtue are getting unhealthy.
04:22:22.780
Men with no virtue are getting unhealthy ideas about relationships and putting women in danger.
04:22:34.000
That's the same thing we were talking about before.
04:22:40.980
What evidence do you have that my audience doesn't have virtue?
04:22:44.560
My audience has greater virtue than the general average population.
04:23:00.960
Because, first of all, the things that they're saying, but.
04:23:04.700
Because the things that are said, ergo, audience has no virtue.
04:23:12.080
If, when y'all say stuff like, women don't care about body count.
04:23:22.240
And the way that men are going around lying to women to get them to sleep with them.
04:23:32.260
It's very toxic when you're comparing women's body count.
04:23:38.880
When, like a large portion of the time, we're not going around being horny.
04:23:43.420
We actually want relationships with these people.
04:24:04.020
And that's inducing men who wouldn't otherwise be attracted to these women to have sex with them.
04:24:11.020
There's, like, the fucking wearing certain, like, the padded bras and shit.
04:24:32.380
Argue that it's SA if a transgender person doesn't, um.
04:24:39.100
Did you know that it's actually considered coercion, which is illegal, if they, if you, if you want to have sex with someone based on the knowledge that you have of them, um.
04:24:50.220
And you have sex with them, um, based on a lie.
04:24:54.220
That's actually, if you look it up, it's actually called coercion.
04:24:58.240
So I would, uh, argue that it's coercion if, like, a married man, um.
04:25:03.740
Lies to have sex with someone or, um, someone lies about their entire life.
04:25:09.440
Honestly, then every single human being who's ever lived is a great best.
04:25:17.660
This is, and, and this will be an inducement for this person to have a sexual relationship with them.
04:25:22.920
These are things that people say to each other in a relationship.
04:25:29.300
Invariably, they don't love that person anymore.
04:25:31.900
I don't think somebody, because they've now, they've made an utterance of, I will love you forever.
04:25:36.680
They are now compelled to remain in love with that person forever.
04:25:39.660
People say these sorts of pufferies in relationships.
04:25:45.340
I gave my body to you based on knowledge that you lied about.
04:25:48.400
It's the same thing as you saying that I gave my body to you thinking that you were, uh, a woman when you're not.
04:25:57.960
Um, I don't see how one is worse than the other.
04:26:03.960
So, when it comes to the trans thing, uh, if they're trans and they don't disclose, that's, like, coercive.
04:26:09.960
You, you said in the past that you, you said that, yeah, you said that, um, you would argue that it's SA.
04:26:16.620
SA, which is the most minor amount of, it is illegal to coerce people into, into sex.
04:26:24.800
So, um, even though it's, um, socially acceptable, if you look up the laws, it's actually illegal to do that.
04:26:35.580
Um, but if you look up coercion, it is considered SA.
04:26:39.240
So, do you think that if a man says to a woman, I love you, right, and he's lying, and then she sleeps with him, should he go to jail?
04:26:51.620
If he thinks it's SA for, to lie about that, to get into bed.
04:26:54.740
Since you brought up the trans thing, you said it is scientifically proven that gender isn't only male and female.
04:27:03.440
Like, by law, when you say science, are you talking about biology?
04:27:17.760
You said there are more intersex people than trans people out there.
04:27:20.540
I don't know if that's actually true, but you said there are males.
04:27:25.040
But it's because, it's because of the broad scope of, of, so it depends on what you classify as intersex.
04:27:30.300
So there's two competing studies, but anyway, okay.
04:27:32.760
Um, you said there are males that can have babies?
04:27:36.260
Um, technically, um, they would have to inseminate themselves, but it is, it is technically possible for, for, um, intersex person to get pregnant with their own baby.
04:27:54.200
Yeah, no, the majority of the population don't know.
04:28:03.660
When you say intersex, that doesn't actually mean you have two sexes.
04:28:06.580
So things can fall under intersex, like a man has cancer, they remove his testicles, it ups estrogen, and he gets man boobs.
04:28:14.320
And that's considered intersex by some criteria.
04:28:16.840
So when it's gone through and it's re-evaluated for, I don't remember if this was, I think the study's called Stiegel.
04:28:22.320
But they went through and re-evaluated it, and they took it from the absurd percentage they had down to like 0, 0, 0, 0.1%, which was actually, hang on, which was actually intersex conditions.
04:28:39.060
So, you made a criticism about, I make generalizations.
04:28:45.620
Do you make, like, you avoid generalizations completely?
04:28:53.400
You said, I think this would even be a generalization.
04:28:57.720
Men with no virtue are getting unhealthy ideas about relationships, putting women in danger.
04:29:01.780
You mentioned the thing about domestic violence and that men watching the show would be more inclined to, like, domestic violence.
04:29:09.580
You said that men thinking, men thinking that, these are your words, that they only need to work a full-time job, then they can just chill and play World of Warcraft in all their free time is the issue.
04:29:23.940
You said men thinking that they only need to work a full-time job, then they can just chill and play World of Warcraft in all their free time is the issue.
04:29:34.120
And you were saying, essentially, that men, in order to get women, men think wrongly that all they need to do is have a full-time job and they have to, like, not do anything besides just chill and play video games.
04:29:54.620
If you want to just walk back every single position of yours.
04:30:01.420
I can't have a debate with somebody who wants to walk back all their fucking position, bro.
04:30:08.180
If you talk to the women who are having the divorces, this is what's happening.
04:30:15.480
Yeah, so you wrote, 70% of marriages are initiated by women, but there's a reason for that.
04:30:19.580
You said domestic violence, emotional abuse, financial abuse, cheating, substance abuse,
04:30:24.560
lack of intimacy, and unequal division of household responsibilities.
04:30:28.460
I've seen the stat that says it's 80% of marriages are, the divorce is initiated by women, but
04:30:34.760
I'm a little bit, or you said 70% of marriages.
04:30:39.160
What percentage of divorces that are initiated by women fall into domestic violence, emotional
04:30:44.420
abuse, financial abuse, cheating, substance abuse, lack of intimacy, and unequal division
04:31:02.600
What's the term they use that's like differences?
04:31:04.560
Can you just scoot your mic to the edge of the table, please?
04:31:08.320
What's the term they use where it's like differences that you can't...
04:31:16.180
So I think 40% was irreconcilable differences, but that's like a broad statement.
04:31:21.900
So 60% of men who are getting divorced are like abusers?
04:31:29.840
Wow, this is some really harmful rhetoric that you're putting out there that's going to
04:31:33.620
result in domestic violence towards men from their female spouses.
04:31:43.020
I'm saying, if you look at the terms, yeah, the majority of...
04:31:48.800
So I'm addressing the whole generalization thing that you accused me of doing.
04:31:53.380
You said that then y'all, men, play victims on divorce.
04:32:02.640
Y'all always bring up that we're stealing your money and...
04:32:10.840
The financial ramifications of divorce disproportionately negatively impact men when it comes to alimony
04:32:22.080
Women in marriage, we lose all of our financial freedom.
04:32:45.780
I'm not privy to the precise disability laws as it pertains to Texas.
04:32:50.760
And as it relates to divorce and the impact divorce might have on your ability to...
04:33:20.540
You have to have a certain amount of work credits.
04:33:21.840
So you're saying you didn't pay enough into the system.
04:33:23.520
Yeah, because if you're at home with the children and stuff and you get divorced...
04:33:36.560
Yeah, we're on the argument of marriages, right?
04:33:42.340
So the argument is women stay at home so they're not contributing to the workforce.
04:33:47.540
So since they're not contributing to the workforce, they don't put enough money into Social Security
04:33:51.900
to draw the type of disability they would need if they became disabled.
04:33:56.360
And then men are four times more likely to leave a woman.
04:33:59.520
But this would be the same thing with a stay-at-home dad, right?
04:34:04.080
What was the fake study you were about to cite?
04:34:05.920
Men are more likely to leave their wives if they have cancer or something?
04:34:13.480
That study was absolutely debunked, this idea that men are like seven times more likely
04:34:27.020
All I'm saying is that there are issues because we leave the workforce and it's harder to get
04:34:33.220
a job if you haven't had a job in 20 years and you get divorced.
04:34:35.860
A hairdresser, in the early 2000s, she gets divorced 20 years later.
04:34:48.300
You'd have to start off as like a bottom level.
04:34:57.500
So like if the deal was presented to me, you don't have to work but can stay home and
04:35:03.880
you stay home for a limited amount of time before your kids require less and less care.
04:35:07.680
The more years that go by, the less time that you actually have to spend caring for the
04:35:13.380
And you'll be provisioned for for the rest of your life.
04:35:22.680
If the marriage doesn't break up because the woman doesn't grow boss and say, don't tell
04:35:26.160
me what shoes I can fucking buy, which is what you're trying to say earlier, right?
04:35:30.600
So your whole criticism was that essentially boiled down to when I pushed you repeatedly
04:35:39.240
What is the harm I'm causing is you make generalizing statements about men.
04:35:43.340
I'll read another generalizing statement you made.
04:35:45.440
You said that y'all men play victims on divorce.
04:35:48.280
Men want us to stay home and raise kids, but don't see any financial value in that.
04:35:55.220
I'm saying from what y'all say on the show, I'm making my statements based on what I hear
04:36:01.080
I mean, first off, well, actually, no, there would be a financial value to a woman staying
04:36:06.960
That way it frees you up as the man to go out and kill it and provide for the entire family.
04:36:13.440
But in addition to that, we're not looking at stay at home wives or whatever it is through
04:36:22.800
We're looking at it through the familial value that you're providing.
04:36:26.300
Yeah, but from things I've seen on him, on the show, I can't quote you, but you're like
04:36:39.660
Oh, like I've actually been married and raised tons of kids.
04:36:44.340
No, but I was a nanny for 12 years and worked 60 hours a week.
04:36:52.480
No, raising my own family, I have my own children, are you going to get, I'm sorry,
04:36:56.360
are you going to take a shot at me because I'm willing to take care of other people and
04:37:03.120
So here's the thing, just so that you understand, right, I've raised many children from the age
04:37:08.840
that they were little tiny kids to the age of adulthood.
04:37:14.000
And I'm telling you that it's not that fucking hard.
04:37:17.600
This job that women complain about is not that hard to do.
04:37:21.840
Every year that goes by, it gets less hard than the year before.
04:37:28.360
Every year that goes by, it doesn't get less difficult than the year before.
04:37:34.500
Once you put yourself up in the higher positions, you should be working less.
04:37:40.200
No, do you think that adding responsibility, I'm sorry, so you add responsibility to a man
04:37:45.500
so he's in a higher position, that's less hard work.
04:37:50.620
If you're doing things correctly, then you should be working less, same as women, as kids
04:37:57.220
No, as you get into positions of authority, your responsibility gets higher.
04:38:03.240
Does Brian work harder with his podcast and works once a week or whatever?
04:38:07.520
I'm just saying, I'm saying you own businesses.
04:38:31.700
What was she saying about how you only do a show once a week?
04:38:36.540
I'm saying that if you're doing it right, you shouldn't have to work as much.
04:38:43.540
If you do it right as a mother, you shouldn't have to work as much.
04:38:56.720
The farther you get up, you can hire people to allocate those certain things.
04:39:01.540
So more responsibility, more people look after.
04:39:03.060
But you can afford to pay other people to do this.
04:39:05.720
So you're paying people who are now in an underling management position to you, and then you are overseeing all of them?
04:39:21.600
The business people I know that are 40-plus, they own businesses, they worked really, really hard and worked like 80-hour weeks until they got to the point where they finally, finally didn't have to do that anymore, and they start traveling, they start doing all of that.
04:39:42.160
You can have some of the fruits of the reward, but I guarantee you none of those business people are working less hard than they did 20 years ago.
04:39:51.020
They have way more people who depend on them for a paycheck.
04:39:53.980
When you have people actually depend on you, so imagine this from the man's perspective.
04:39:57.460
Do you have your family who depends on you, children who depend on you, wife who depends on you?
04:40:01.560
Now you have other people's family who also depend on you.
04:40:06.820
All of their families get fed through me, right?
04:40:15.580
And in fact, as I become more successful, it's going to get more difficult, not less difficult.
04:40:48.640
You were zipping on to the next thing like you do.
04:40:53.680
So, why did you bring up me having a show once a week?
04:40:59.660
And you went from two shows a week to one show a week, didn't you, recently?
04:41:06.780
I'm actually working just about the same amount.
04:41:17.060
Even though I've gone down from two shows a week to one show a week.
04:41:21.000
Do you hope in your bartending business that you're going to have more employees?
04:41:28.960
Because I still get paid whether I work or not.
04:41:31.900
Do you think it's going to be less work to manage those employees?
04:41:39.000
When it pertains to Airbnb, when you first start off, you have to allocate all of...
04:41:45.740
Bro, it's so insulting for a woman that I work like 12, like 10-hour days every single...
04:41:53.640
And some, like, entitled woman comes on the show saying that, oh, you just do one show a week.
04:42:08.300
If you just do one show, we could just stroll into the podcast video, and that's it.
04:42:14.980
But you cut me off before I even finish what I was saying.
04:42:18.980
Yeah, but you're assuming what I was saying before you even let me finish.
04:42:28.220
Because they were flying me and Rachel out anyway, so I just went ahead and made that work trip a vacation.
04:42:37.680
From my experience in business, you can pay other people to do certain things the higher you go up.
04:42:52.600
Yeah, so probably not a lot of experience in your business.
04:42:58.460
I'm saying that in general, you can say the higher you go up, the more employees you have.
04:43:04.420
And eventually, you don't have to work if you don't want to, and you can if you choose to.
04:43:08.740
Yeah, usually, if you get to the point where you are, I don't know, an extremely rich, extremely wealthy business owner, you have multiple employees, you can outsource most of your stuff, this and that.
04:43:29.680
When you get older, yeah, that's when you start to have the freedoms.
04:43:39.020
You usually don't get paid for the first three years.
04:43:41.660
For the first three years, you don't take a dime.
04:43:44.060
And any dimes you do get, you reinvest your back in the business in equipment costs, things like this, and you do all the work yourself.
04:43:49.540
And then what happens is, one day, you maybe catch a break and you get a few extra contracts, and you do all those yourself too, reinvest in your business, and you still take no money for another year.
04:43:59.560
Eventually, maybe you get to the point where you're one of the few lucky business owners who can afford to have employees, which is very rare.
04:44:05.780
Most people can't even do that in business, or if they do, they fail immediately, because that's most of the pay that you pay out is going to be to your employees, right?
04:44:16.720
The more people you add, the more contracts you have, or you wouldn't need employees.
04:44:20.540
It always becomes more work, and they call in sick.
04:44:22.680
Then you have to go in and do their job, and then it does not get easier because you manage more people.
04:44:30.000
I mean, then I think those businesses aren't doing that great.
04:44:36.060
I'm going to bring it back to the generalizations here.
04:44:38.400
Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
04:44:42.260
I thought this was just funny because I'm tired of that question, and my argument is that a bear wouldn't ask me stupid questions like that.
04:44:52.280
And secondly, there's only three to five bear deaths a year, and there's about like 15,000, I think, murders from males per year.
04:45:02.460
So if it's a random man or statistically, I'm more likely to get harmed by –
04:45:14.920
Yeah, I mean, I don't – and realistically, I don't know.
04:45:23.180
You've made a criticism of me of generalizing women.
04:45:26.080
And when I asked you what, you say things like, oh, women, I say things, or at least you allege that I say, that women want men who only have money and status, et cetera.
04:45:38.360
You know what I find more egregious than that is you think that you're making a generalization about men.
04:45:45.700
And you've painted, basically, if you choose bear over man, you're making a generalization about men to the point that you think it's safer to be in a forest.
04:46:00.220
You think it's safer to be in the forest alone with a random bear, a wild animal, over a random man.
04:46:20.440
I said statistically, why would I – if you look online about statistics, only –
04:46:34.820
If you look at statistics, I'm not a man-hater.
04:46:46.180
So how many bear encounters do you think the, like, average person has throughout the course of their lifetime?
04:47:05.120
I've done a lot of camping and a lot of traveling.
04:47:16.080
I wouldn't go pet a random man on the head either.
04:47:18.020
How many men have you, like, walked past or met in your entire life?
04:47:22.520
All I know is that I've been abused by multiple men, and I haven't been abused by bears.
04:47:28.040
So let's take this to – it's a logical conclusion.
04:47:30.740
Let's say there's an individual who had bad experiences with somebody who was black or Mexican.
04:47:35.920
And because they had one, two, or three bad experiences with somebody who was black or Mexican, they now do not want – they're fearful of all black people or all Mexicans.
04:47:55.380
I said because dudes won't ask stupid questions like this.
04:48:05.420
It's a temperature check to see if you're a sexist.
04:48:13.940
Yes, you are because you said based off statistics.
04:48:17.140
And if I actually went in person, no, probably not.
04:48:25.700
You can't walk back every single position when you get –
04:48:35.460
Look, most things have nuance, but the thing is –
04:48:40.940
So you can't say I'm walking back when you don't ask details in that stupid questionnaire.
04:48:46.580
Did you ask the details when you ask yes or no questions?
04:48:50.640
Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
04:49:01.040
If it was a polar bear, I'd definitely choose a –
04:49:15.580
So you can press to spawn in a random man of the entire U.S. population, an adult man,
04:49:21.540
or you can press the other button, which will spawn in a random bear, and it can be any – of
04:49:26.380
any species of bear that live in the United States.
04:49:31.960
I would choose the man – if – when you say the woods, it specifies – it makes it
04:49:38.960
If it's a forest, I assume that would be a black bear or a grizzly bear.
04:49:44.580
The most dangerous bear is a polar bear, right?
04:49:52.940
There was literally in California a woman was, I think, either attacked or killed by a black bear.
04:50:02.720
Most of the time, if it's a black bear, they're defending their cubs.
04:50:09.440
Would you be down to take, like, an IQ test on the podcast right now?
04:50:16.620
Because you said, like, when you were in fifth grade, you took an IQ test, and it was, like, 149?
04:50:28.160
You know, you can do what is called a baseline IQ test.
04:50:35.160
But it will usually get you within about 10 points or so.
04:50:43.200
They take – mine took, I think, about four and a half hours.
04:50:49.760
And what that does is just based on a sampling of questions, it can get you at least within a range.
04:51:10.560
I also take a bunch of medication, and I drink, like, once every three months.
04:51:25.940
If I drink once every couple months, that's okay.
04:51:28.680
If I drink every day and I take medications, then that wouldn't be okay.
04:51:53.360
I have to be very – I have to think outside the box with work.
04:52:08.700
I – at first, I was – I used to not be able to walk and stuff, and I just had to slowly work up to not being a victim and pushing myself to do things I didn't think I ever could do.
04:52:33.980
What's the process you use for cutting down a tree?
04:52:40.140
What do you do with the chainsaw to cut it down?
04:52:52.680
But what do you do with the chainsaw to cut it down?
04:52:59.220
There's a way that you use a chainsaw to cut a tree down.
04:53:11.660
It's not like I'm cutting down, like, gigantic, normal things.
04:53:27.060
If y'all can Google it, I don't know the name of the saw, but the majority of it is, like, a tiny saw.
04:53:40.480
It goes out, like, six, seven inches, and it has rigged things, and you just turn it on, and you put it through?
04:53:52.880
No, it's shaped like a knife with a button on the end, like, that goes like this.
04:54:13.340
I mean, the majority of which I used smaller items and went chunk by chunk.
04:54:26.260
There's definitely limits to all of my, like, DIY projects, but –
04:54:33.260
But, yeah, I would definitely not take a saw, a chainsaw to another tree if I were you ever.
04:54:56.560
Any tree that I could touch the top of is a bush.
04:54:59.900
And then I trimmed – I trimmed the bigger trees and went, like, 15 feet up.
04:55:08.500
I don't know if we'd consider that a rage quit.
04:55:11.740
I mean, I do – I have several different types of power tools.
04:55:23.380
And I would – I think that the majority of men would probably be in the same position as me in this day and age of just going for it.
04:55:39.960
She probably felt that she wasn't able to get a word in.
04:55:44.940
Would have been good to have gone through some stuff with her.
04:55:48.120
To be fair, she kind of came in a little hot on Andrew, and I just shut her down pretty quick.
04:56:01.560
People have a tendency once you've – I mean, that was a really buzzkill thing to say at the top of the show.
04:56:08.700
So then I wasn't being very charitable with allowing her to participate in the conversation because within five minutes or whatever of the show starting, she used a word that we try to avoid.
04:56:23.520
And it's also just kind of a – without the proper context, the conversation, a really disgusting accusation to levy towards Andrew.
04:56:30.180
So the one who was sitting over there freaked out and –
04:56:35.340
And then she cried, and then Kenzie walked out.
04:56:48.960
Had that situation – had she not said that stupid little quip, that girl would – like it wouldn't have led to the whole situation with that girl.
04:56:57.220
It was like a cascading domino effect of like –
04:57:01.460
But Rachel texted me and was like – she placed that in there and was totally – she thought she was pushing for it.
04:57:18.300
I think it was inevitable for her to act like that because it was just about interruption.
04:57:24.100
It would have gone there probably eventually, but just be really careful behind you because there's a – just be really careful.
04:57:40.880
But this here, I think what she said was like this sort of intentional thing to just totally sour – like you don't say that at the fucking top of a show and I don't know.
04:57:58.120
And I had a similar situation, you know, Straderade, Aaron.
04:58:05.660
I've been trying – dude, she's been dodging a debate with you for a year.
04:58:09.320
I've been trying to do a 1v1 – get her for a 1v1 debate.
04:58:11.780
She's like, reach out in a month, a month, a couple months.
04:58:17.300
That whole Destiny nonsense because she's an orbiter too.
04:58:21.780
But she came on and did the same thing and totally falsely accused me of saying something I didn't say.
04:58:29.680
Like I think – it was early on in the show, I'm pretty sure.
04:58:33.460
And she was like, oh, didn't you like say that – something about gang rape?
04:58:39.860
Yeah, just like some – I was like, no, I said gang bang.
04:58:45.860
They love to just totally be buzzkills and ruin the show.
04:58:50.980
So we're going to get through, I guess, the rest of the notes here.
04:59:00.120
Okay, so what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
04:59:46.780
Wait, can you just scoot into the table so you can –
05:00:01.940
It's not, but my business is going to get better.
05:00:04.040
I'm going to keep doubling my pay every year as a model, so I'm confident.
05:00:12.240
Yeah, well, I represent myself, so yeah, that's how it works for me.
05:00:22.580
I said enough to provide so that I'm able to be a stay-at-home wife and mother.
05:00:32.400
I want to grow up – I want to raise kids in the South.
05:00:40.800
I said $80,000, but I'm okay starting from the, like, base, very bottom.
05:00:45.440
If they have goals and dreams, then as much as they can do.
05:00:48.320
I mean, $80,000 is not unreasonable for if you want to – in California, if you want to, like, have a baseline family, that's not unreasonable to be searching for, I don't think.
05:00:59.840
But $300,000 is, like, that's such top tier, like, what you're asking for there.
05:01:09.960
Well, $300,000, you're already getting into that really high top percentile.
05:01:15.420
That is an extraordinary amount of money that most people just never make is that much per year.
05:01:23.580
I think it's gone up to, like, $560,000 this last year.
05:01:26.320
For top 1%, it went up to, like, $560,000, I think.
05:01:33.180
Well, you want a 1% guy in terms of his – maybe it's, like, 2%.
05:01:36.780
Top 2% guy in terms of income, are you a top 2% woman?
05:01:41.960
That's not mandatory, no, but I would love that.
05:02:01.960
How tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
05:02:14.160
I've dated people shorter than me, multiple, yeah.
05:02:23.560
You said your longest relationship was four years?
05:03:02.460
I think yo had said it, and I don't think she picked up on it when you said it.
05:03:46.640
Can somebody send it to the research tab on Discord?
05:03:52.980
I have a question for her, like following up on that.
05:03:57.300
When you said you were talking about getting disability when leaving your partner, were
05:04:07.220
I was talking about in general when people get divorced, men when they're like, oh, she
05:04:16.300
They don't think of small things like that where when you're out of the workforce, consequences
05:04:28.000
So you would date a guy who's shorter than you?
05:04:32.260
And they were, you know, some of the best people I've dated.
05:04:57.280
And what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
05:05:14.380
Not at the beginning of the show, but like when we were having an argument.
05:05:17.460
Just like 30, 60 minutes ago, something like that.
05:05:21.940
Andrew, do you want to put the $3,000 wager on it?
05:06:11.120
Does that mean both of y'all would owe me $100?
05:06:17.300
I'm also, I'm just going to add Brian Atlas to this because we're both party to this.
05:06:34.040
So everybody's doing $100 or she's still doing the $3,000?
05:06:37.660
Y'all can add if y'all want, if y'all want to put waiters.
05:07:02.720
Maybe you heard the mumble, but I never said that.
05:07:13.120
I mumble, so maybe you misheard, but I never said it.
05:07:14.900
And if you do find it, guys, I need you to send it to my whatever Instagram page.
05:07:18.940
Because I'm not active on, I don't have my Discord in front of me.
05:07:21.580
Send it into the, you'll have to send it to the request here.
05:07:31.160
Are you going to sign about the $100 you're going to owe me?
05:07:47.500
How tall are you and what's the height of a man you would date?
05:07:54.280
Um, I am five-seven, so probably like six foot.
05:08:07.940
Um, I date my height, but you know, tall is better.
05:08:15.460
And then there was, oh, would you rather cross paths with a man or bear in the forest?
05:08:27.600
Uh, I'm not going to really linger on the bear one, but, um, you're all sexists.
05:08:35.400
If they kill you, a man could grape you, like a bear.
05:08:42.160
I'd rather be killed by an animal, like a bear, you know?
05:08:50.920
But like, I don't know if I'm, you run into a man in the forest, like.
05:09:13.480
And you happened to sight a man who was also a complete stranger.
05:09:23.260
Now, if you were running away from the man, would you shout to a bear for help?
05:09:33.860
Like the very thing that you think makes the man dangerous, which is that he has the reason
05:09:42.620
He also has reason and capability to not do that.
05:09:51.740
And I think of a man also spawned into a forest with a woman.
05:09:57.760
And the first thing on his mind would be like, why the fuck am I here?
05:10:03.240
The first thing on your mind, you'd be like, how did I get here?
05:10:21.160
I don't know if somebody wrote 10% disagreements.
05:10:26.920
Here, I'm going to get into the rest of the show notes here.
05:10:31.800
Ashley, you said that you're a submissive woman in your pre-show notes.
05:10:37.860
Your question is, you wanted to ask, are your standards too high?
05:10:41.740
Because you said you haven't really, you've never had a boyfriend, never dated anyone.
05:10:46.200
Although you do include here that you've been asked out.
05:10:49.660
You've tried to give people, here, maybe put me in frame.
05:10:53.400
You've tried to give people chances, but can never follow through with the dates or past
05:10:59.700
You said there's 600 plus guys in your hidden folder on Hinge, I'm assuming.
05:11:06.380
And then you also say, no, genuinely never been on an actual date.
05:11:09.720
You've been asked out, had people try, but you can just never follow through with it.
05:11:13.700
And the 600 people plus hidden on Hinge, because you lose interest or get nothing from it.
05:11:18.580
So when you say that you're, like, what are your standards, I guess?
05:11:24.840
I mean, I feel like when I talk about it, it's the bare minimum.
05:11:30.640
I ask for someone who can show me compassion and show me, you know, like I say, I'm not in
05:11:38.240
I, you know, one of my love languages is physical touch, but I mean that along the lines
05:11:41.720
of holding my hand, just showing that, you know, you appreciate me.
05:11:49.980
I mean, even appearance, we talk about appearances are such a big thing.
05:11:52.540
Like, you can't have a relationship with someone if you're not the slightest bit attracted to
05:11:56.540
And, you know, I try and have a relationship with someone.
05:12:02.680
Like, and so are you saying you're just not physically attracted to the guys?
05:12:05.320
Yeah, I, I honestly, I don't attract the men that like, I, I see.
05:12:10.160
Is it, so is it the men that like you, you don't like them and the guys that you like,
05:12:18.460
And I, I don't know if it's something I'm doing, something I'm giving off.
05:12:21.780
Um, I, I've replayed it in my head, you know, everyone's like, Oh, like the right
05:12:31.680
I mean, I haven't, you know, I haven't seen it.
05:12:35.000
Um, you, let's see in the rest of your notes here, you said, uh, guys can go on about their
05:12:41.120
ex being crazy, but they go after them for their appearance, not personality.
05:12:45.120
I think it's more often that like the girls go after, like the girls will say, Oh, my
05:12:52.460
I feel like you could say the same thing about women.
05:12:54.680
I, I, men tend to avoid like, I don't, men don't want crazy.
05:13:01.920
I would say it's a, um, a male and a female thing that I hear a lot of guys talk about
05:13:07.400
how, I mean, just from my perspective, cause I'm talking to, you know, a guy that their
05:13:11.500
exes are, you know, BS crazy and all that stuff.
05:13:14.480
And I'm like, that's because you got drawn in from the way they look cause of the beauty
05:13:19.120
You don't actually get to know them for who they are.
05:13:20.960
So you're in a relationship with them and you find out that they're crazy and all that
05:13:26.620
Like you're in a longterm relationship with them and you find out that they're psychotic.
05:13:30.840
Well, you didn't truly get to know the person for who they were.
05:13:33.300
You started getting into the relationship because of the way they looked.
05:13:36.160
I kind of have to screw with Brian here a little bit.
05:13:39.580
Men don't, I guess, generally want crazy, but I think they'll put up with crazy if they're
05:13:48.080
They'll put up with that for, in exchange for sex.
05:13:50.760
But, uh, from you, that's not what they're getting.
05:13:58.160
But the point is, is like, so if there's any crazy involved, right.
05:14:03.660
And there's nothing that they're getting out of it physically, like from their perspective.
05:14:11.420
So from their perspective, it whittles down the options, right?
05:14:14.640
Wait, we have an update here on the, did she say the thing that she did indeed say it.
05:14:36.780
Alignment with goals is different than getting married.
05:14:54.380
Not, did she utter the word married or divorced?
05:15:01.620
It has to be, she said that she was married or she was divorced.
05:15:07.360
They asked that in the beginning, so they can go to the way beginning to find it.
05:15:12.620
To make a determination that a woman needs to have her own money for X.
05:15:59.540
I know you didn't say it there, but there's going to be some more clips coming through.
05:16:03.600
My speech impediment may have got me $200, so slow it down.
05:16:12.380
Just because those clips didn't show it, because perhaps they misheard it, it could be the
05:16:21.120
Unfortunately, we don't have the evidence yet, but that doesn't mean it won't come in.
05:16:27.560
Do you think I'm wrong for believing that most men are only in it for intimacy and like
05:16:35.120
I know they're out there, but how I said, I'm attracted to maybe 10% of men in the range
05:16:53.640
But you said, would you date an older guy like in his 30s?
05:17:03.480
So probably you want to date within your age range.
05:17:11.040
I think you're going to maybe struggle here insofar as you said you want to like wait for
05:17:21.560
I think there are probably a greater proportion of Christian men who are like, they're not virgins,
05:17:26.760
They're okay with like waiting longer periods of time or even waiting until marriage.
05:17:32.620
But yeah, most guys don't want to, most guys just, they want to have sex.
05:17:38.940
And the hard part is, I won't get into like the Christianity stuff, but a lot of people
05:17:42.040
who say that they're Christians, they still have a lot of lust when it comes to having
05:17:47.120
And so even trying to open up to someone who is a Christian, which I would love to find
05:17:54.180
That's even hard to even trust them because they're still into, you know, lustful sins.
05:17:59.120
Yeah, I feel like guys lust more than they love.
05:18:04.600
And let's go to, oh, you said you would take a bullet for your significant other.
05:18:08.640
This is a disagreement with me because of my position on the bullet thing.
05:18:13.160
Yeah, I would, honestly, I would take a bullet for a lot of people, but I would 100% take
05:18:18.920
Whether they wouldn't want me to or not, I would still expect them to offer or try and
05:18:25.180
As someone who I am submissive to a man, I want them to defend me in any way that they
05:18:30.060
can, but I would do the same just because that's the type of person I am.
05:18:33.200
Yeah, I don't think men should take the bullet for the woman.
05:18:37.400
I think that they should, I wouldn't say necessarily take a bullet.
05:18:51.040
But do you believe in a man defending a woman, like standing up for them in a fight?
05:18:54.920
Look, the assessment here is in a situation where somebody has to die, I'm not taking the
05:19:04.080
But you would for your kids, if I remember right.
05:19:21.920
But this idea that would I like, if there was a home invasion, yeah, the person who's invading
05:19:35.880
But in some scenario where it's like the Grim Reaper, it's like, you or your wife, you can
05:19:51.300
Like, why is the man, this is a generation of women who are the least submissive, the most
05:19:58.560
promiscuous, the most involved in sex work, the most liberal, the most progressive, the
05:20:05.760
The most everything counter to chivalry, and you want me to take the bullet, I'm sorry.
05:20:18.960
Women should remain virgins until they meet their guy and they stay with them indefinitely.
05:20:28.180
I was going to do my thing, but you are a virgin, not a virgin, not a virgin, not a
05:20:34.680
I mean, you're not a virgin, but you're also, it's your wife.
05:20:39.880
But you're using that claim as women should stay virgins, all that stuff.
05:20:42.920
Well, I also think that that's counteractive, how men can have high body counts and look
05:20:48.360
But we're not talking about random women, we're talking about your wife.
05:20:54.220
Let's say Brian, his wife, the Grim Reaper does show up, and he's taking one of them.
05:21:00.520
Let's say in this hypothetical scenario, Brian's 10 years younger, and it's you and him, and
05:21:18.580
I used to get him to stand up for me too, though.
05:21:21.400
Well, then how do you come to the conclusion then as to who the Grim Reaper takes?
05:21:27.800
I would say me, but I would hope that my husband would act.
05:21:30.940
So secretly, you're saying one thing when you actually want the other thing.
05:21:38.160
He uses the excuse, or not the excuse, but he uses the argument that women, I mean, he
05:21:46.480
But in the context of that, we're talking about your wife.
05:21:49.360
We're not talking about a random woman who's promiscuous, who has all these money.
05:21:53.380
Like, here's the logical, that's what we're doing.
05:21:55.300
We're trying to figure it out logically, right?
05:21:56.840
If your claim is, I would want it to be me, and Brian's like, good, okay, it's you.
05:22:02.660
And you're like, but wait, I actually want it to be you.
05:22:07.080
No, I would want it to be me, and I would let it be me, but I think it's the act of showing
05:22:19.060
Right, right, so I get all roads lead back to, if you really would take the bullet, right?
05:22:27.880
You can't get mad, because he's like, all right, then.
05:22:32.140
It's the action of showing him defending me, I think that is all I ask for.
05:22:35.940
Like, I mean, him standing up for me is just what I ask for, but I would ultimately.
05:22:40.460
Yeah, but would you rather date a guy who's honest about it, or a guy who virtue signals
05:22:46.320
signals, a guy who virtue signals, oh, yeah, I would take the bullet, and then he actually
05:22:54.640
Like, at least with me, you know what you're getting.
05:22:57.420
A lot of guys talk a big game about, like, oh, I would sacrifice my life for my women.
05:23:06.280
I would sacrifice my life for one of my Romanian OF girlfriends.
05:23:13.680
Andrew Tate is not sacrificing his life to defend one of his Romanian porn star girlfriends.
05:23:22.840
And these men who virtue signal, oh, it's a man's duty.
05:23:27.300
It's virtue signaling, and it's total fucking cope.
05:23:30.280
But we're not talking about a just random girlfriend that you have.
05:23:34.160
We're talking about someone who's been submissive to you, someone who would bow to you, someone
05:23:38.260
who would be there for you, provide for your family, provide, I mean.
05:23:46.240
So if she doesn't fall into that category of reasons why you wouldn't take a bullet for
05:23:52.200
her, if she doesn't fall into those categories, you still wouldn't do it.
05:23:58.860
If the condition, here, look, let me frame it like this.
05:24:01.680
If you were to tell me, Brian, I'm willing, I'm trying to think of the framing.
05:24:06.100
The condition is, you can have the perfect woman, but five years from now, you have to
05:24:13.500
There is no woman of any value in the world that is worth dying for.
05:24:18.580
Ergo, I would just not blanketly die for any woman or even the perfect woman.
05:24:25.340
The reality is I'm not going to get the most idealistic woman.
05:24:31.540
Even if I could, I wouldn't die for her, but I'm certainly not dying for the, like, the
05:24:36.540
girl that, uh, is like great and everything, but is she a supermodel?
05:24:43.020
Is like every single like trait and characteristic I want in the woman wouldn't even
05:24:51.680
Would you push a, push a woman out of the way of a car?
05:24:54.040
I mean, would you, like, we talk about walking on the outside.
05:25:40.240
But like, if it was an adult and here's the thing, you probably know this with drowning.
05:25:44.540
If they try to pull you down, they'll pull you down.
05:25:53.720
Did you say you would or you wouldn't take a bullet for your child?
05:26:06.080
Although, couldn't I just forward the same argument?
05:26:09.180
You know, I know that sounds terrible, but you do need additional wombs.
05:26:19.040
It seems like if I didn't save the kid, I would lose the wife.
05:26:33.900
If I was coming from the man's perspective, he's the one providing too.
05:26:37.300
So, I would sacrifice myself because my man's the one providing for our family as well.
05:26:41.820
So, that's another reason why I'd take the bullet.
05:26:47.840
Women are supposed to be virgins, but I feel like this doesn't work on you because you're a virgin.
05:26:54.980
But, I mean, yeah, men are supposed to be protectors, but to what degree?
05:27:00.900
Like, for example, let's say you're dating a guy.
05:27:04.720
Would you want your man to protect another, like, non-familial stranger in a situation where it's like, whoa, this is, like, really unjust.
05:27:17.940
Would you want your man, and let's say you have kids, to step in and intervene at risk of life and limb to him, knowing you have children to take care of and you love your husband?
05:27:28.940
I think his job is to protect me and our family.
05:27:36.360
I mean, if there was a situation where, say, that woman was by herself and he had the opportunity to protect her as a good civilian, then I would agree.
05:27:48.000
I mean, I would hope that he would survive it, but I would think it's noble for him to help.
05:28:02.480
This situation wouldn't even come up because my women would be in the kitchen.
05:28:11.640
And that is actually Andrew Tate who just sent that in.
05:28:17.460
It's actually Andrew Tate at Hotmail.com who sent that in.
05:28:22.620
And then Spiro, Spiro, Brian would not die for the perfect woman, but the perfect burrito, though.
05:28:46.820
In the crystal ball, you see that if your man came in, right, and did save this woman from catastrophe, that event would kill him.
05:29:01.440
But I would say I would prefer him not to intervene because ultimately I need him to be the provider.
05:29:18.180
If we don't have disability, um, if we don't have, not if you don't have work credit and you get, wait, so if you get married and you get divorced, wait, she says it here.
05:29:32.860
Don't get disability, um, if we don't have, if we don't, not if you don't have work credit, after divorce, I'm disabled, I know this.
05:29:52.560
I could have sworn there was a part where I asked if she was divorced.
05:30:10.500
We're not trying to determine the truth of the matter.
05:30:27.660
But she's referencing her disability and that's how she knows it, not because she's been divorced.
05:30:32.280
Yeah, because I'm in disability groups and women of divorce, they have this issue.
05:30:43.740
No, I, you know, I just, I'm in disability groups and a lot of women have this issue.
05:30:57.540
Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom,
05:31:01.800
nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.
05:31:01.940
Oh, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.
05:31:08.480
Okay, so we're going to do some things from the questionnaire here.
05:31:21.040
We are going to do a, it's going to be a $29 roast session.
05:31:26.720
If you guys want to get them in, I'm going to get that all set up here in just a moment.
05:31:33.020
While we're doing that, though, we do do a segment called makeup removal.
05:32:01.580
If y'all are going to judge me on the giant rash on my face.
05:32:05.140
I have an allergic reaction to soap at the motel, so.
05:32:18.060
I'll take it off if you're not going to make fun of me for having a rash on my face.
05:32:23.140
In chess, you lose if you sacrifice the king to save the queen.
05:32:42.080
Andrew, do you have a quick question for them while I get everything sorted over here?
05:33:08.800
So we were talking about the fact that you're a Christian, right?
05:33:13.720
But you're not saying you're going to wait until marriage necessarily.
05:33:22.160
I said I would love for that to be the case, but I'm scared to say that to a man because
05:33:26.500
I'm worried that they're not going to pursue anything with me because they will not be willing to.
05:33:32.280
I should have had my notepad and wrote that down.
05:33:43.200
You actually do, in fact, want to wait until you're married, right?
05:33:47.800
But you are, in fact, not telling them that because you want to attract them in and you're
05:33:55.880
Not necessarily because when I have that initial conversation with them, like I said, very
05:33:59.960
soon, I mean, in a matter of a day or two of talking to them, I'll make that very apparent
05:34:07.800
The idea of the catfish is I bring you in under false pretenses in the hopes that you'll
05:34:12.800
like me, even though it's under false pretenses, right?
05:34:21.880
I think it's more sad of the fact that I feel like I can't express to men that that's what
05:34:31.380
I've yet to find a man who has even, one, mentioned that to me, but two, I just don't
05:34:38.600
I don't even think it's still a thing that people will wait till marriage, that people
05:34:41.080
will genuinely fall in love with you for who you are internally as much as they love
05:34:49.480
I feel like that's too high for me to even want for myself.
05:34:52.740
Who wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a guy strictly from the fact of y'all
05:34:58.420
are genuinely in love with each other for who y'all are and have that connection to be
05:35:03.300
in love and have that intimacy with each other on the night that y'all get married?
05:35:09.300
I would love that fairy tale, but that fairy tale is too good to be true.
05:35:13.900
I genuinely believe that it's too good to be true.
05:35:18.100
I think, you know, recently I started talking to a guy.
05:35:21.220
I just recently ended it because he canceled after two.
05:35:27.900
He canceled on two days and I was like, okay, like, I don't deserve that.
05:35:32.140
But I remember strictly telling him, I'm like, it is going to be a long time till we even
05:35:37.600
In the back of my head, more than ever, I wish I said, like, I wanted to be the person
05:35:41.900
that I'm going to be with for the rest of my life before we even get together.
05:35:45.840
He was definitely a more intimate person and it just, that's not what I want.
05:35:56.920
I would go forever to have that connection with someone knowing that I'm going to be
05:36:00.160
with the right person, but I just don't even believe that it can happen.
05:36:03.660
Maybe it is catfishing, but like I just, in the back of my head, I don't even think
05:36:07.240
I do not believe that there's a guy out there who will wait that long that fits the criteria
05:36:17.080
I don't want to wait till I'm 40, 50 to get married.
05:36:24.480
I don't, I mean, there's no timeline, I guess you could say.
05:36:30.480
Like, and the older I get, I feel like the less it gets.
05:36:31.940
I guess I'm asking, when would you want, would you get married in your 20s?
05:36:35.260
Um, I mean, best case scenario, I'd get married in two years, but I'm not planning for that.
05:36:40.800
I mean, if I find someone and I'm not that person that's going to get married after a
05:36:44.640
couple months, you know, I want to make sure that he's the one.
05:36:46.780
That's how you truly find out, you know, all their flaws and you accept them for who they
05:36:51.720
Like, it's going to take time, but if it, I mean, I'm not openly searching for a relationship.
05:36:58.160
And that's why I'm allowing myself to go out on dates and open up to men like that because
05:37:02.300
I'll never know if there's something there, whether I'm attracted to them or not.
05:37:10.900
But I feel like a relationship is based around God and I, 100%, like I want someone who can
05:37:15.160
go to church with me and truly listen to his word and not be a man.
05:37:20.540
Men can be Christians all they want to, but they don't follow.
05:37:24.900
We are all sinful people, but they don't try to change.
05:37:31.420
They're still going to keep committing the sexual sins that they've been committing since
05:37:35.660
Like that's my problem with even finding a Christian man is because they're, they don't
05:37:46.800
It doesn't mean that you rigorously practice a religion.
05:37:53.100
So you do put that out there other than I want to wait till marriage in the hopes that
05:37:58.320
you go on a date and he really likes you and then you can spill the beans there and you
05:38:03.420
But don't you think that if he came in and then he told him that on the date that he
05:38:12.600
No, because I don't, I mean, I'm not going to like the first time I'm texting someone,
05:38:17.460
I'm going to be like, Hey, I'm not looking for hookups, but I'm actually very.
05:38:24.580
I mean, there was one guy I talked to for maybe a week and actually I think the first
05:38:29.120
day I met him, I literally told him, like I opened myself up not as a looking for a relationship
05:38:33.200
with him, but I, you know, we just ended up getting into conversation.
05:38:37.480
We have to move on, but I'm going to get through into the questionnaire.
05:38:41.940
Andrea, you said that a man, you disagree a man dating a transgender woman is not straight.
05:38:54.180
That a man dating a transgender woman is not straight?
05:38:58.220
So, no, here's the statement that you disagree with.
05:39:02.060
A man dating a transgender woman is not straight.
05:39:08.320
So you think it's straight for a man to date a transgender woman?
05:39:11.500
I, I would say so because they're transgender or like they, they got surgery and everything.
05:39:24.140
Cause like they have, you know, they went to get, they had surgery to get a vagina.
05:39:35.500
So it's like, let's say there's, there's two, there's two gay dudes and one is in a terrible
05:39:40.980
accident where it smashes his genitals and like leave some kind of wound there.
05:39:45.620
If his partner like goes through with that, is he then straight?
05:40:01.820
But if they did, would that be straight of them to do?
05:40:06.360
Well, I mean, he didn't want to be transgender.
05:40:08.620
So, I mean, that's still, they're still gay because he didn't.
05:40:13.900
So then this, the, the sexual identity is just based on, or the, the idea of straight
05:40:18.660
or gay is just based on what you feel like, not the biological act.
05:40:22.480
But they are taking like, um, medication, you know, like estrogen and stuff, you know,
05:40:32.780
But they're, but they're not in fact a woman, right?
05:40:36.880
And they're still just men who've cut off their penises, right?
05:40:40.000
But it's turned into like, they have to, um, use like the dilators, you know, to.
05:40:50.200
Like they just, they made the neo vagina on their arm instead of where they're like, where
05:40:57.300
Like, why would it, why is the position of where the vagina is the important part?
05:41:02.780
But if they did, well, that's, this is a completely different question.
05:41:11.760
You're like, if the, if a dude cuts off his penis and then dresses like a woman and then
05:41:17.140
takes hormones to have the, um, appearance to everybody of being, hang on, of being a woman,
05:41:24.580
Then why would it matter if their vagina was on their arm instead of like in this region?
05:41:38.420
Cause you could put, you can put a wound that you have to dilate any place on the body.
05:41:44.580
They're dilating their vagina to, you know, like stretch it to.
05:42:01.760
Have you ever seen people who have giant holes in their ear?
05:42:14.340
After a while you can stretch them out so wide they don't ever close up.
05:42:24.380
I don't know if they have to dilate them for the rest of their life.
05:42:30.980
It's your body's trying to heal, so it's trying to close the wound up.
05:42:34.320
I don't think it's often, but I'm pretty sure they have to.
05:42:38.260
I wouldn't consider them, well, if a, I wouldn't consider them like a guy gay still if he went, if he was with a transgender woman.
05:42:58.640
Or can a guy go home and suck his girlfriend's dick and he's straight?
05:43:01.940
I honestly, like, do, I was thinking about that, too, like, if he still had his genitals, but, you know, literally look like was still a woman, but they still have their genitals.
05:43:13.100
I honestly, like, I don't know, like, I don't know.
05:43:18.220
Maybe if they do acts, you know, like, where he's, like, sucking her dick or something.
05:43:29.080
He's sucking her, like, does that even sound right?
05:43:32.740
Or doesn't that sound a little bit like, oh, there's another group of guys who do that called gay guys.
05:43:39.320
Honestly, like, to me, I'm not, I'm not a person to be like, oh, my God, you have a dick, like, you're, you're a male.
05:43:47.720
Like, if a guy wants to transition, he dressed like a girl, looks like, well, they look like a girl, dressed like a girl, but they have, like, male genitals.
05:43:56.320
Like, I'll still call them, you know, she, if they want to be called she, her, I'll still call them that.
05:44:03.660
I get that you'll use the pronouns that they want because you don't want to be rude, right?
05:44:09.140
But does that mean in your brain, though, you actually think, in fact, that this is a man?
05:44:15.420
No, because they don't, they don't appear as a man, so I wouldn't consider them a man.
05:44:18.580
What about the ones who are really trying to appear as the thing?
05:44:25.940
Um, well, that's probably because they took their medicine, like, way too late in life.
05:44:34.260
Honestly, if they're dressing up like a girl and they, like, really want to be a girl,
05:44:39.180
So then your position basically is this, that if a dude puts on a wig and has a beard, right,
05:44:46.540
and then has sex with another dude who puts on a wig and has a beard, they're not gay.
05:44:55.140
Are they, like, like, dressing up as a man during the day?
05:44:57.500
They definitely want, no, they definitely want to be women.
05:45:03.760
They definitely want to, but they, in fact, are not.
05:45:15.020
They want to not, but they can't help but grow the beard.
05:45:20.880
Like, just, there's some women out there, same thing.
05:45:22.960
They don't want facial hair, but they can't, like, they can only do so much about it.
05:45:29.300
So, you would consider them, you're not going to be, like, you're a man because you have facial hair.
05:45:33.340
No, I would just be, like, well, if you have a penis, you're a man because I'm not insane.
05:45:38.220
But when I'm looking at the idea from you, you're basically just telling me that if two guys put on wigs and had beards and went at it, that's not gay because they both want to be women.
05:45:58.000
Like, they could be doing that and then go, oh, you know what?
05:46:09.680
Before we let the roast come in, do you think it's acceptable for a man to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans?
05:46:22.580
Okay, so a man, I, here's the, here, I'll make it super simple.
05:46:41.920
There's literally no right or wrong to a preference.
05:46:46.960
What if it's the case that Brian wanted to date trans people but didn't, right?
05:46:59.860
Anyway, he kind of wants to, but he doesn't, right?
05:47:05.260
He's like, nope, I'm going to appeal to my religion.
05:47:15.840
This is getting Brian back for the fucking pineapple pizza for the second night in a row.
05:47:21.080
I can't, I literally can't tell you if it's, like, right or wrong because, like.
05:47:30.360
But, like, uh, I don't know if, what I, what I think, like, I don't know if you're attracted
05:47:35.140
to that person, like, just go for it, you know?
05:47:39.140
Um, here, I'm going to blast through some of the other things here, Andrea.
05:47:45.200
But what if a trans person went to Brian and said, I'd like to date you.
05:47:50.220
And Brian went, as is his preference, to go, oh, God.
05:48:06.000
Men are not insecure about caring about a woman's body count.
05:48:15.120
Okay, so it's fine for men to care about a woman's body count?
05:48:17.680
Yeah, men are insecure about a woman's body count.
05:48:29.920
So the statement, men are not insecure for caring about a woman's body count.
05:48:34.960
So that would imply that men are insecure for caring about a woman's body count.
05:48:42.880
They're going to make judgments about you based on the body count.
05:48:45.220
If a girl has a body count of 10, he doesn't want to date her because her body count's 10.
05:48:55.100
I'm just going to just, real quick, going to point out that the likelihood that the two
05:49:00.240
women here with the low, probably the lowest body count are the ones who think that it's
05:49:23.720
Lower than most of the people on the show, but I'm not going to give a number.
05:49:26.800
Do you want to do a range like 5 to 10, 10 to 20?
05:49:40.000
Um, no, but I have seen men where they say, oh my God, if a girl has four bodies, that's
05:49:50.640
It's like, well, why do you care she has four bodies?
05:49:52.660
And then, uh, Andrea, you said that women, uh, so here's the statement.
05:49:56.260
Women have equal rights to men in the USA to which you disagree.
05:50:01.180
So you think women don't have equal rights to men?
05:50:12.760
So you, wait, so you agree that women don't have equal rights?
05:50:19.980
But like, oh, I was, I was thinking of like other things.
05:50:24.020
I mean, men are treated a little bit better than women.
05:50:26.820
So, but okay, so women have equal rights to men in the USA.
05:50:40.720
Um, well, what I was just, what I was thinking when I read that was just like, you know, the
05:50:45.780
pay, the wage, there's a difference between us.
05:50:56.820
Um, I don't know, a little bit, I don't know, just like, I don't know, things like maternity
05:51:03.500
leave and stuff, like a lot of, a lot of jobs won't hire like pregnant women, you know,
05:51:08.860
because they're going to be on maternity leave.
05:51:10.240
They don't want to pay the woman who's going to leave.
05:51:13.440
And it's just like, you know, things like that.
05:51:19.220
I think I, I saw something like Trump was going to start making that legal again.
05:51:25.600
Um, here, I'm going to let a couple of roasts come through.
05:51:33.340
Brian wants to be able to step up and defend a woman in danger, but it's hard to move fast
05:51:46.960
Look, I'll never stop guacamole, but, um, that is the actual reason for why I won't take
05:51:54.600
I mean, I'm a larger target, so that could be a pro, you know what I mean?
05:52:10.140
Andrew, if you want to shoot some cool pew-pews, hit me up next time you're in 707.
05:52:33.520
I think it might have actually been open at one point.
05:53:10.260
By the way, I'm confident there was three bottles of champagne pops.
05:53:19.340
Do you want me to answer the drug, the whatever question?
05:53:26.540
So I popped the third one, but I was in the middle of losing my...
05:53:29.840
Having a fucking aneurysm dealing with whatever was going on.
05:53:52.020
I think you forgot to pop it on screen or something.
05:54:07.260
I thought it too, and that clip was when I thought she said it.
05:54:10.900
She's so scattered and incomprehensible, she creates false memories.
05:54:23.700
I noticed when Cortez came up in the land stealing topic, no one mentioned that most of
05:54:28.700
his fighting force against the Aztec, ironically, was other tribes.
05:54:32.080
The Aztec had been ritually murdering for years.
05:54:40.200
Most of his fighting force against the Aztec, ironically, was the other tribes the Aztec
05:54:46.080
I mean, you see this with, like, the Maori in New Zealand, is they were like...
05:54:55.820
So, the transcript for the video gets released, I think, between, like, 12 and 24 hours after
05:55:06.540
Just because we haven't seen it yet, I want to just search in married and divorced because
05:55:16.460
So, before you pay her, you'll have to Venmo her.
05:55:19.020
We have to wait until the full transcript comes.
05:56:43.240
They have to use a dilator to keep their fake love open.
05:56:46.780
If it was a real love, it would not have to be forced to stay open.
05:57:01.000
A few weeks back, you said you were originally from Santa Rosa.
05:57:11.540
Seat underscore three underscore simp donated $30.
05:57:14.720
Are we going to see you pay the seat one $100 each?
05:57:21.080
Could probably find a top 2% guy if she did it soon.
05:57:31.880
Why would I ever want to go to California for pew pews when I live in Michigan, bro?
05:57:46.240
Trump never once did carnal knowledge with Monica Lewinsky.
05:58:08.440
Did you want to continue responding to Coastal operator?
05:58:11.220
I was just saying, yeah, if I'm ever in that area again, sure.
05:58:19.640
And then who's worse, Trump or Bill Clinton going around the table?
05:58:23.560
First term, I would, for Trump, I would say Clinton, but second, third, Trump, I would, I mean, second or third term for Trump, I would say Trump.
05:58:50.820
I sent a, just a private chat, if you can check that.
05:58:56.180
I'm not educated enough to say, but I feel like Trump, the most disrespectful publicly.
05:59:02.980
Uh, yeah, I, this is the first election I've been able to vote in, so I can't really answer.
05:59:07.760
I like Trump just from the way that he stands up for the country, so.
05:59:24.660
Speaking of not practicing what you preach, Andrew is an Oino, orthodox in name only.
05:59:30.540
Hey, also at this point, him convinced Brian is closer to being asexual than straight.
05:59:56.400
Law chair three, thinking she will be all right, of course, she thought she was careful.
06:00:01.260
I don't want to be in the weird, awkward side frame.
06:00:06.100
Chair three, thinking she will be all right, because she thought she was careful.
06:00:27.480
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06:01:31.420
Can I answer the question, though, that they asked what I'm tweaking on?
06:01:36.240
You said you, in addition to having half a glass of champagne...
06:01:40.000
No, I had several glasses of champagne, and they're pretty big.
06:01:54.660
I'm on immunosuppressant, which is basically the same medication they give to cancer patients.
06:02:11.300
It's chemotherapy, the same medication they give to cancer patients, and nerve blockers and stuff.
06:02:16.580
And when you combine them all together, it can affect how easily you get drunk.
06:02:25.460
Yeah, which is why I don't do it in most cases, but even my doctors are like, if you do it every now and then, and you don't overpartake in that, it's fine.
06:02:35.380
But if you make, like, a habit of it, then it's pretty harmful to your body.
06:02:45.800
Like, two months ago, playing D&D with my family.
06:02:49.220
Are any of your, the medicines you take, are they psychoactive?
06:02:57.520
They just, um, a bunch of medications have a tendency to make you more buzzed when you drink.
06:03:05.160
I don't know, I don't know the specific contraindications of the medication.
06:03:09.380
I don't know what the medications you are taking.
06:03:13.900
Um, but to be fair, you, like, you maybe had, like, this much total.
06:03:23.920
That's what I'm saying, is when you add my medications, which several of the bottles, you know, it shows that you are more inclined to get buzzed on them, then, yeah, I definitely get buzzed really easily.
06:03:42.340
Nice to see you in the room debating delusion with women.
06:03:53.180
So this is a video I took my ex-girlfriend, uh, and this is kind of the expectation I have for all my future relationships.
06:03:59.040
Can you scoot the microphone to the edge of the table, please, for the dozenth time?
06:04:06.120
Yeah, I know, it's hard to follow instructions.
06:04:08.800
You've been alive for 38 years or whatever, 37.
06:04:26.880
Whether you like them or not, why don't you just follow the rule?
06:04:33.180
I don't think I should be called out for something that's not making a difference.
06:04:39.900
Yeah, but we told you not to move the microphones.
06:04:47.380
I think people, it really bothers me when people say, I didn't intend to do something that bothers you, annoys you, or hurts you in some way.
06:05:00.540
I don't want to, like, these girls you date that constantly do, like, stupid shit, and then, well, I said sorry, how about you just stop doing the thing that's annoying?
06:05:10.280
Well, as someone who claims they might be autistic, sometimes people have automatic motions that they're not aware of, correct?
06:05:20.940
I have automatic things that I do that I'm not aware of.
06:05:23.820
Socially and movements, I, like, move around a lot.
06:05:28.320
Yeah, you're able to move it back is the thing, so why not, like, if you are.
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Yeah, but I'm just, I'm not aware of it, because I'm, like, this is, I twitch, like, I move, this is just how I am.
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I'll try to work on it, but I've also, I told you I was.
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I've had to tell you to move your microphone, like, a dozen times.
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I, it's just automatic things that I don't, like, I'm moving my, my leg this entire time.
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Women love to hand wave away ways in which they're wrong by saying, I didn't mean to.
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How often is it the case that, like, how often is it the case that somebody's intention is just
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I, I've apologized every single time and I gave you the reason that I have not been aware.
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I'm, first time being on air and have all these, uh, nervous movements because, like,
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So, I'm not always worried about what I'm doing.
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It's the end of the show, but I'll try to focus on my mic and not the conversation for now on.
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We, we instruct, just leave the microphone where it is.
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We just say, hey, don't move the microphone, leave it where it's at.
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But do you do this in relationships where, like, uh, the person you're dating says, hey,
06:07:30.060
I don't like it when you do this, whether it's minor or major, and then you continue to do it.
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And then all of a sudden, something that's very minor, you're like, it's not just you
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It now becomes, now you're crossing a specific boundary that I laid out of like, hey, please
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Let me, let me repeat this mistake that bothers you dozens and dozens of times.
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And I think it makes me more anxious and more like the more, uh, not aware of my movements.
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I, I'm, I'm twitching and stuff cause it's an, it's an anxiety thing.
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Um, I've never done this on live, you know, podcasts.
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I've been babysitting multiple people on the panel.
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I've been babysitting all night and it's fucking frustrating.
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you know, be being able to go on the beach topless and not men, but women can have like
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this part of their breasts out, but not the nipple.
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Those are, by the way, those are local ordinances.
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So, well, I mean, it's not, it's usually state.
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So if you're talking about state state's rights, then there's all sorts of state's rights
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Men can be called into malicious service and women can't at the state level.
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And there's states where there's abortion, which is available to women, uh, while there's
06:09:36.360
So you, they asked the question and that was my answer of the titties for the titties.
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And I'd say abortion odds are kind of crazy in Texas, I would say.
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So, I mean, women not being able to be bare breasted.
06:10:11.480
Well, I mean, not in the United States, it's not a federal thing.
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Um, is there anything else besides the, okay, so that's it.
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And then, well, you were going to say abortion, right?
06:10:24.840
So, just so you know, there's, there's many, many states where men can't go topless either.
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So, it's not the state itself is not restricting from the local ordinance of saying you can't
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have a shirt in, or you, you know, you can't take your shirt off in this area, but there's
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tons and tons of places in the United States where men are restricted from taking their
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In, like, beaches or, like, just public places?
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Uh, going to Sarah, Sarah, you, the statement is as follows, possible to be racist towards
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And so, I do believe you can be prejudiced towards white people or other people who have
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Um, but I believe using that specific word implies a systemic issue.
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Um, racism is a, um, it's a systemic oppression of a certain, um, ethnicity of people throughout
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Is that, would you adhere to that definition of racism?
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So like a black person could not be racist towards a white person.
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I would, well, I guess I, if you use that definition, then possibly, but I was still looking
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at it from the systemic issue of it, of slavery and all of that.
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So by that definition, you could be racist towards Indian people, Native Americans.
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Can you scoot your mic that way, this way, to your right, I guess?
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That like blacks could be racist towards Native Americans?
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I know that they're, I know that Indians or Native Americans have, have been oppressed.
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I don't think it was black people who were oppressing them.
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So as long as black people have been part of the participating system, then they have been
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participating in the system of oppression towards Native Americans, right?
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who have their own sovereign land, sovereign everything.
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I, I, that one's something I would have to do a little bit more research on to really have
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I believe that, I believe they can be prejudiced towards them.
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So the only group that you can think of that blacks could be racist towards would be Native
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Americans because of the systemic oppression towards that single group.
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Well, like I said, I would have to just do a little bit more research to have a better
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I'm just asking if that's in the realm of possibility.
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So, but that's the only group possibly that that's even equatable to?
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And then you also on this, you think it's, you disagree that it's possible to be racist
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Oh, coming from a perspective of a person who has had to deal with racism my entire life,
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the way that they deal with it compared to with it as in racism, it's more of a joking
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matter or a retaliation rather than to people going out of their way to be racist towards
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black people rather than white people are usually called those slurs in retaliation to
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Conceivably, though, could there be a scenario where a black person could be racist towards
06:15:01.660
Here, I'll give my example that I tend to give on this one, then we're going to move
06:15:11.440
Um, okay, Barack Obama, he refuses to hire a white janitor because the janitor is white.
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I think that's a prejudice against white people.
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But is there, has that happened systemically towards white people?
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I mean, it could be on that smaller scale or it could be like some, like, let's say he
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passed, uh, like he did an executive order saying, uh, white people have, uh, white people
06:15:48.580
So their vote is worth like two thirds that of a black person's vote.
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Is there a history of, of white people, um, of black people enslaving white people?
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Um, not in the United States, but in other regions of the world.
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I don't know about those other regions of the world, but since we are talking about, I
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mean, there's, that was what, that was, that wasn't black people.
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No, but I'm saying the white people were enslaved.
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I was asking if, if white, if black people ever enslaved white people systemically, and
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And so I'm, I'm curious, I'm confused here because if racism equals prejudice plus power,
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power, so Barack Obama, the president of the United States, the most powerful country in
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the world, the, he has systemic power over the executive branch of the government, which
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So systemically this would meet like, that would meet your definition of racism, prejudice
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Unless is your assertion that Barack Obama, when he was president, didn't have power.
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No, I believe he did have power, but I also did.
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You would have to concede that that would be racist then.
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So I actually didn't give that definition, but if that was the definition of racism, then
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So you're saying there has to be a historical component of systemic black prejudice towards
06:17:29.420
I believe like if we're going to use the word racism, then I do believe so.
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But I do believe you can have a prejudice towards people of a different race, of a different
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Even granting this super charitable one of racism equals prejudice plus power.
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Now you want to like throw on, oh, but there has to be a historical component too.
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So what, I mean, do you believe that, I mean, that the same, um, oppression that black
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people have had throughout history is the same of the same as that, that scenario that you
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just gave where Obama didn't hire the janitor because he was white.
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It's just that the, there's been systemic, meaning the powers that be government powers,
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government forces have historically oppressed black people.
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There's no, no doubt that that is the case, um, leading into modernity.
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And because that history is there plus the systemic oppression plus systemic oppression
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Racism has to be geared towards the system towards a specific group, right?
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So do you not believe that the word racism is systemic or no?
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I just want to make sure that I got, that I'm correct about how you see it.
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And historically the system has oppressed and those are the necessary preconditions for
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So then if that's the case, the individual can't do very much about systemic oppression or,
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and the individual can't do much about being systemically oppressed, like you, the individual
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can't do very much about being systemically oppressed and I, the individual can't do much
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about systemic, can we systemically you being oppressed, right?
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It sounds to me like you can, you can make the argument that systems can be racist, but
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at the individual level, if I can't participate in the system of oppression, nor can you participate
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in the system of being oppressed, why is it that my prejudice towards you or your prejudice
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towards me couldn't be racist, or you could only be prejudiced towards me, the individual?
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I do believe that, but I believe that, I mean, I do believe that semantics matter and I believe
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And so when we use the word racism, that, that has a definition.
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So yeah, but you're applying it to a system, not individuals, right?
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So if an individual, so like if I called a black person, the N word or a black person called
06:20:30.460
Let's say two, two racial categories, you may not consider those equivalent insults, right?
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But you'd have to consider them both to be racial slurs, right?
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My argument to you for systemic racism would just be this, the system's not doing that.
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There's no system there, which is being applied to force you to call me this, nor me call
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So if that's the case that I'm not a part of a system of oppression, nor are you a part
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of being, um, oppressed by me in a system, how's that not you being either prejudiced towards
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me or, or just me being prejudiced towards you?
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In other words, why can't, why isn't just the individual, if they say the N word, why are
06:21:14.420
What would give you the, uh, what would, what would make you feel comfortable saying that
06:21:21.540
or calling a black person, the N word, the same thing that would make them comfortable
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saying the C word, whatever the conditions are for that.
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So I guess then that goes toward, that goes back to who, I mean, I, obviously we can't answer
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I mean, that sounds very childish, but did we, well, let's just say that, well, let's just
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say that they just say it on their perspective podcasts, right?
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So like, let's say there's two different podcasts and they're on like some, I don't know, free
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And one is just like, they just say the word, the N word all the time.
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The other one says the C word all the time, right?
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The white guy is not part of any system of oppression.
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He's not part of any governmental system, which is designed to oppress anybody.
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Neither is the, the black person in this scenario.
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They're both individuals who are saying a racial slur, but why is it in that case, the
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white person would be racist and the black person would only be prejudiced.
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If the racial terminology is applied to a system itself.
06:22:30.820
Yeah, and I do, I understand what you're asking me.
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And I do believe that perhaps, um, I mean, I understand that some people may say certain
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things in ignorance and not realize how it's sounding.
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I do believe because there is a history of, of white people being racist towards black people
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that we would view things like you saying that word, um, through the lens of, of racism,
06:22:58.780
as opposed to you just being prejudiced towards that person, that black person.
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But that doesn't make any, because there's no, there's no system though.
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There's nothing systemically happening at the individual level.
06:23:10.960
It's only systemically happening at a systems level.
06:23:13.760
So like university guys in charge of university calls person, the N word, he has a power of
06:23:19.240
an institution right behind him or some sort of institutional power in order to do, to make
06:23:28.240
I could see you then saying, if I called him the C word, that's prejudice.
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I can't understand it on the individual level with people who aren't participating in a system
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But the thing is, there's not really a way of determining whether it's racism or prejudice
06:23:50.540
I would say that, like I, like I said before, that we are going to view it through the lens
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But how you view it through the lens of thing is individualistic.
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So like, okay, but if white people viewed it through the lens of also racism, you would
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just reject it, even though it's still an individual assessment at that point.
06:24:13.280
I mean, if you consider it racism, then you consider it racism and I can still disagree and
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Yeah, but we're, we're not really going off of me rejecting your definition, but accepting
06:24:25.260
it and just kind of telling you where the, where, where I see a logical inconsistency.
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If there is no system, which X person's participating in, it's just an individual and it's the same
06:24:40.800
So there's no oppressor oppressed relationship there between the individual.
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I don't understand why the individual can't be racist themselves towards another individual.
06:24:48.400
If there's no systemic push, in other words, or why they can be prejudiced towards another
06:24:57.140
Well, because, well, I feel like we're quibbling here or not quibbling, equivocating.
06:25:04.020
That means, um, racist, absent power, essentially your racist, absent systemic or historic context.
06:25:16.720
Something, something like that, at least like in that frame.
06:25:19.520
And we know that racism in this context means historic plus systemic, right?
06:25:29.540
But if you're not part of anything, which is systemic, like for instance, a white guy gets
06:25:38.480
Um, and he just starts like shouting the N word, right?
06:25:41.680
He's not part of any system of anything, right?
06:25:50.680
He would say that's racist, but if a, if a black man comes over from, um, let's say I'm,
06:25:58.200
I'm some part of, uh, of Africa that's never had a history of slavery or a different country
06:26:04.620
where, uh, there's a lot of black people who don't have a history of slavery or a general
06:26:09.140
history of slavery, at least in the United States context, couldn't they be racist?
06:26:18.960
You're saying that they're spewing off like, uh, profanity towards whites, white people.
06:26:25.720
How do they get to be a part of this system of, of oppression where they're not a part
06:26:29.540
of the system and have no historic context now?
06:26:35.800
I, I think that that would be a learned behavior, perhaps.
06:26:41.700
Um, I do think, and you're probably going to disagree with me on this, but I do think
06:26:46.820
that a lot of, if there is a black person spewing off like racial slurs towards a white
06:26:52.760
person, that a lot of it is in retaliation because of the systemic racism.
06:26:59.240
Um, but if they just think it's funny, the black person, they think it's funny to say,
06:27:09.600
No, I, I think sometimes they do because I think so too.
06:27:14.580
So a guy, a guy comes in from, uh, you know, a section of Africa who's has no ties to the
06:27:20.280
United States really at all comes in as a, let's say immigrant or refugee or something
06:27:32.640
He just thinks it's funny to call white people these slurs, right?
06:27:43.360
At least at that point, I think he's prejudiced towards white people.
06:27:47.300
So then, then for me, yeah, yeah, I'll just wrap it here for me.
06:27:52.620
It's an inconsistent definition because if it requires power and historic context and the
06:27:59.940
system and, and now we can point to a person has none of those things and they still can't
06:28:05.660
That sounds like you're elevating privilege at that point.
06:28:08.300
That's just some kind of privilege that's applied arbitrarily.
06:28:16.220
Yeah, but Jason Castle donated $30 share one, shut up.
06:28:24.500
Pretty sure 143 IQ would be smart enough not to mix those drugs with alcohol.
06:28:34.400
So I will listen to that doctor instead of the rando, um, sending this $30 message.
06:28:50.040
With all the negativity we get in the chat these days, I just want to say thanks to Brickson
06:28:55.420
for taking the time to run this podcast and the guests that show up to participate.
06:29:18.360
The autism spectrum is used for coke now for more than anything.
06:29:34.600
He will free us from the asylum inmates that have run our society.
06:29:41.540
Brian, stop being so mean to chair one, you being an unicorn.
06:30:01.500
Hit up my, um, my Instagram and maybe I'll give it to you.
06:30:06.100
If you want, you can, you can, like, do a wink to this camera right here.
06:30:40.320
The Barbary Coast region took several slaves from Europe for years, resulting in the United
06:30:46.600
States sending ships over to end it in the 1800s.
06:30:59.940
I don't know how you guys do this week after week.
06:31:03.340
Have you ever thought about the long-term effects from your line of work?
06:31:13.180
Andrew seems to take it on the chin pretty well, but it definitely stresses the fuck out of me.
06:31:24.560
I just hope that Simp from last heap he changed his mind on that range quit from early on today.
06:31:31.080
I told, I, oh man, I think I told him that she was going to be on.
06:31:36.020
After tonight, there's no way you can deal with a girl like that, man.
06:31:40.440
That's the type of girl you got to understand that just, I asked her, I asked her, just tell
06:31:46.120
me what you think that you think I think you did wrong.
06:31:50.500
You don't even have to think it, but what do you think I think you did wrong?
06:31:57.940
And that's just a complete failure when it comes to accountability that is endemic pandemic.
06:32:05.660
There's a, there's an accountability pandemic to Gila.
06:32:13.260
It's below the threshold, but I do appreciate your message, man.
06:32:22.940
You said women are not oppressed in, wait, did I already ask you?
06:32:33.980
I definitely feel like we've come a long way in America when it comes to women's rights.
06:32:44.600
And I definitely feel like we were going in the wrong direction.
06:32:53.100
Um, just the way that our president talks about women and the way he feels women should have
06:32:59.360
less rights and access to things when it comes to the household and all these other things.
06:33:13.020
He has some, his, he opened up the office of faith.
06:33:16.940
It's like, he's not trying, he put his ex-wife who has passed away on a golf course, like
06:33:23.100
he wouldn't have to pay taxes for that said golf course and he never leaves her flowers.
06:33:28.520
Um, because for, if, if you want to put, make it a cemetery, it has to, uh, it only applies
06:33:41.360
But I mean, even just like, let's grant it, right?
06:33:44.680
Lots and lots of men, regardless of, and women too, hate their exes.
06:33:59.420
So, I mean, never, I mean, let's just assume it.
06:34:03.240
Even if it was true, so many people hate their fucking exes.
06:34:08.580
Even if it was true, like, and he just really hated his ex.
06:34:12.120
He just seems like he doesn't like women unless they're there as an object to objectify them.
06:34:16.940
He literally puts them in all sorts of positions of powers.
06:34:25.860
Like, it's just woman, woman, woman everywhere for Trump.
06:34:28.840
He puts them in total positions of power constantly.
06:34:31.400
I have a team of specialists because I have very rare disorders, and all of them agree.
06:34:48.180
So, you can say that, oh, yeah, women shouldn't be doctors.
06:34:53.000
Double Agent donated $29.99 for the panel, including Brian and Andrew.
06:35:00.380
Referring to MAGA, when year are we referring to?
06:35:11.820
Brixen and Andrew, excellent back-to-back shows.
06:35:15.240
Chair One, my daughter is in Mensa and has anxiety and neurodivergent.
06:35:19.580
You're doing well, but definitely don't mix the meds with alcohol.
06:35:29.760
Joe McDonald, zero, one, donated $30 to Chair One.
06:35:36.200
I'm in my early 40s, and I'm indigenous Cree from Canada.
06:35:44.040
But Chair One is sexy and beautiful as AF, and I can't help it.
06:35:48.160
So far, it sounds good to me, so, yeah, hit me up.
06:36:06.060
If someone's body count is actually X3's Chair One's IQ divided by three...
06:36:14.940
He's saying that my IQ would be divided by three, since they say the body count is usually
06:36:27.540
So, just real quick, too, to one of the super chats that came in.
06:36:33.260
What was it, the one before this said, that I wanted to respond to?
06:36:38.240
No, no, no, I mean, from the beginning, but what was the, what was the next one?
06:36:46.460
Yeah, I was going to tell the Crucible crew, take Down With The Sickness, the song, and
06:36:51.720
then AI render it for Down With The Simpness, so that we can send it to that guy.
06:37:05.280
What you're going to do is you're going to drag it over to the, oh, that's, I don't
06:37:11.780
know if that's going to, wait, is that even it?
06:37:21.680
Like, I've never seen attractive men out anymore.
06:38:26.800
Yeah, no, I'm, can we, yeah, I'm not going to look at a screen and do that.
06:38:34.880
You had a cup, you had a cup of, you had a tall cup of champagne, um, six, six hours ago.
06:38:45.460
Like I said, my medications, um, yeah, send, send me this quiz.
06:39:17.540
It takes, it takes, there's no time test on IQ tests, first of all.
06:39:30.560
Are you saying because I was special ed that it's a special IQ test?
06:39:33.260
I didn't say that you took this, a special IQ test where there's no time a lot.
06:39:37.940
I was in fifth grade, but I don't remember them timing me.
06:40:42.820
And I told you that's probably lower, but that's what I was rated in when I was tested.
06:40:53.300
The snow Mexican simping for chair one must have missed the rest of the show.
06:41:01.400
I don't really know what I did so wrong, but okay.
06:41:18.300
H3 Constitution does not include slavery of any fashion.
06:41:34.640
What year does the panel think he's being referred to when we say make America great again?
06:41:42.040
I still don't even really understand it with the clarification.
06:41:55.860
I would like to know that answer too because it's confusing.
06:42:18.740
Clarify your question and clarify the question.
06:42:32.900
Chair one, can you stand up and do a slow spin around for me?
06:42:37.460
I'm a little chonky right now, but yeah, I'm curvy.
06:42:51.580
I had to take medications that made me chonky, but I'm working on it.
06:42:57.520
Cane underscore only underscore one donated $30.
06:43:26.120
I think it was just in support of some of the things I was saying.
06:43:42.880
Okay, so what year are we pointing to for when America was great?
06:43:53.240
I don't think America was ever going to vote for Trump.
06:43:56.580
What year does the panel think is being referred to when we say make America great, comma, again?
06:44:13.920
I mean, this was supposed to be make America great again for Trump.
06:44:28.160
I think he's asking when was America great and what year was that to bring us back to?
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What year do we want to go back to or do we do we want to replicate?
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So when you say make America great again, you're not actually making a reference to any specific year.
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There are times when America's at great prowess.
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You want to take all the good things from those times and make it actually a great country again.
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And you don't have to point to a specific year.
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But if I were going to, I'd point to a block of time and say, you know, right around 1900 through probably 1945 to 1955, something in that era.
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It was a much greater nation than it is now, at least as far as the culture goes, as far as the people go, things like that.
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And it wasn't great for everybody for obvious reasons.
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That's when racism was very prevalent back in slavery.
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But what did I just say about dichotomy, the false dichotomy, which is you don't have to take everything from these specific decades and say, oh, well, because bad thing was also happening.
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Like, for instance, let's say there was a massive fire.
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In fact, there was right between those decades, right?
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When I say make America great again in those eras, do you think I'm referencing, like, fires?
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I don't think you're referencing fires or any kind of natural disasters.
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I'm not referencing horrible things that could have happened.
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I'm trying to take the good things that came out of those eras.
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I think maybe to clarify what parts of those years, what were the good parts that you would want to bring back?
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I would bring back things like the nuclear family.
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I would bring back things like the interdependent dynamics between cross-generational families, cross-generational wealth, bicentennial farms.
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I mean, there's so much things that I would want to bring back.
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I would also want to bring back some type of, well, I don't know, getting rid of the income tax.
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You can't point to any great time in America where bad thing wasn't happening.
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And so what happens is race baiters go, well, at that time, America was racist.
06:46:47.000
It's like, well, right now, according to most race baiters, America's racist.
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So then you either have to say America was never great, right?
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Or you can say there's times where it was great.
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And I want to take the things which were great from the times it was great to use those things.
06:47:05.480
All right, Tria, you said men are, this is the statement, men are physically stronger than women.
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I think you should redo this paper so people aren't confused.
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No, I think you guys just work on your reading comprehension.
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So the statement is men are physically stronger than women.
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And you circled it indicating you disagree with that statement.
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Well, I think that's a more an indication that you guys just can't comprehend.
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One of them is like the first one was like, do you not?
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I mean, that part's confusing for a dyslexic person, but I didn't answer correctly.
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So I'm just saying since a lot of people answer wrongly and you're annoyed by it.
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I guess I haven't yet seen if I just say, how about if you agree with the statement, circle it.
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I think if I just read, if you disagree, I would be like, oh, do I disagree with this statement?
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I think the one question was like, do you not disagree?
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It was pretty like what I had to, I had to rewrite it.
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But like, for example, dating is easier for women.
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So you just think in your head, hmm, is dating easier?
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I'm just saying if this happens every show, make it, yeah, change it, I guess.
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I'll change it so people who just fail at reading comprehension can figure it out, I guess.
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You said you had a guy cry and basically run away when you refused a second date.
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Um, you had an objection when we were discussing, I guess, your appearance here to the one to
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10 rating scale, but it seems maybe that's changed.
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Initially, I didn't want to answer the question just because I felt that it's a degrading
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question only intended to challenge a woman's self-perception.
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And, but I then agreed to answer the question when my, I spoke with the male figures in my
06:51:03.340
So a lot of Seventh Day Adventists are pacifists.
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You've heard of Adventists being not like being pacifists.
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Um, I do know, I do know a soldier who's gone non-combat.
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So there's like, uh, even within the denomination for Seventh Day Adventists, there's, there's
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like a, um, there's one sect, if I remember correctly, who is completely pacifistic.
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That's not actually a part of our denomination though.
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Just like some of us are vegans and some are not and just eat clean meats.
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I thought that pacifism was a part of, or that there was some sect of it that there was
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So all Seventh Day Adventists are under one holistic church branch?
06:52:16.120
We are all Christians and we just believe in all 10 of the commandments, including the
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Well, no, I'm just asking about an ecclesiology.
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Is there a structure for, for the church that has elders, things like that?
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We, yeah, it's a, it's a Christian denomination and yes, we have the structure that a lot of
06:52:48.580
Priscilla, the girl that we kicked, she's asking for a redemption podcast.
06:53:04.760
I mean, I would actually be open to it if like, I knew with certainty she wasn't going
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to come on and troll, but it's just such a liability given that she like maliciously
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Yeah, that's a, that's probably the bigger one.
06:53:36.500
Andrew, Priscilla approached you because you imitated the way she talks and bullied her.
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You started the beef and now you're playing a victim.
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Well, I just need, we just needed to understand what the question was.
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Just, I'm, my patience has been severely, uh, eviscerated.
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I guess this episode, just because of the rage quit kickoff attack on Andrew, then trying
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It was, it was a pretty, uh, difficult podcast.
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Um, anyway, yeah, that dude, you're tripping dude.
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I think she like, yeah, she came, she walked back over here and went and you and started
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So I was like, okay, well, if we're doing this, I hadn't said a word.
06:54:45.420
After that donated $30 first time, donator, can you being a black male does not make you
06:54:52.920
You mindset and mentality does hello from a fellow black male.
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Double agent donated $29 and 99 cents for the lady.
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If you could be a guy for just one day, what would you do?
06:55:13.760
If you could be a guy for just one day, what would you do?
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You need to do a champagne pop, and she has to drink the whole thing.
06:56:11.320
Well, hangover sucks, especially in my condition.
06:56:36.800
You can't tell someone to fix their grammar when you can't use woman or women in a sentence
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Brian, let's get Desiree, Priscilla, and Andrew in the studio and stream it through
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kick or summon the ground service so Andrew can take the kiddie gloves off.
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You're saving it for a leftist soy boy who will allow your daughters to become sex workers.
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Won't defend you if a man besmirches your honor.
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I will be extra careful about what I post from now on if I messed up before.
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You would have to send me a DM on Instagram with your YouTube username and I'd have to
06:57:52.340
But typically once you're banned, that's just perma.
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Kane underscore only underscore one donated $30.
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Generally speaking, women that lack a decent father figure or husband of self-value most of
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the time struggle mentally to understand past a 14-year-older.
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But yo, cubes, thank you for the message via Streamlabs there.
06:58:28.740
A few final things here, then we're going to get this wrapped up.
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So with that said, final call guys on the final call on the roast session.
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Well, obviously we always get them in if they come in.
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Maybe I'll buy you some with the $100 you gave me.
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My black ex-wife scraped me this morning during a BJ.
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Then made a burrito as an apology for waking me up.
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Like, I said that what you're asking for with women is like.
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It's going to be a very boring live stream, but I want you all to take it, too.
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I took one recently at, like, 5 a.m. on my iPad when I was tired as fuck.
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It was, uh, shit, I don't, I think, wait, let me see if I took a screenshot because I
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Like, I'm probably, like, room temp, but whatever.
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It just feels like it's about, uh, okay, so you said, uh, this goes hand in hand with
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You're trying to understand the obsession with wanting a submissive partner.
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It just seems like what is often described on the show is basically a robot.
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Those will be available to the masses very soon.
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Once they're affordable for everyone, do you really need a housekeeper figure to tend
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Isn't there anything else men are seeking in a woman?
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I just think relationships should be a partnership.
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I would rather have a partner who wants to work together on things instead of assuming
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traditional values when the majority of households are two income families because
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Plus, it just feels like men are desperately trying to take power back now that women are
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well, man, whatever, dude, are succeeding and don't depend on a partner.
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I use, I use a tech predictive text or the whatever.
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Oh, I'm just saying, I mean, Elon Musk is saying by 2020, was it 2030?
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Yeah, but when it comes to, you're trying to understand what the obsession is with wanting
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Oh, like considering what the future is coming up that it might not be that necessary in
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I actually want to play a video from Andrew Tate.
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I don't know if I'm going to actually be able to find it.
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This idea that, oh, but do men really want like super submissive women?
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I'm already, uh, he, he says something along the lines of, listen, there's no such thing
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Men have a woman who does everything that they say and he's going to be, he's going
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And instead go find some like woman who disagrees with him on everything.
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I just mean submissive in a way where you expect them to do all of like the household chores
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I don't mean like actual, like, you know, what if, what if he's fully providing and you're
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Um, and you said also, instead of learning to adapt to the new structure of society, y'all
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are trying to take women back in time when we didn't have freedom.
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Um, like when he says 1950s, um, women didn't have freedom.
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I mean, if you wanted to have all the rights, like, um, they had all the rights in the 1950s
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Oh, what rights did they not have in the 1950s?
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You have, if you, if you wanted to own a house, you had to co-write, but you have to have a
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You couldn't buy your own house without your parents co-signing for you.
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You also needed a co-signer if, unless you're paying full cash for property, you can own
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property, but if you're paying full cash, you can own it.
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But without, if you need a co-signer, you need, I mean, if you need to finance it, you
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need a co-signer, either your husband or your family needed a co-signer to finance things.
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Financing wasn't done the same way in the fifties that it's done right now through banks.
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Most people bought their houses in cash and then houses were a lot cheaper.
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Read their literature from women of the time who aren't crazy, whacked out feminists.
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They definitely were not oppressed by their own metrics.
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To get rid of, to get out of the households that they were in, which was often toxic, they
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would have to marry, marry into, yeah, get married.
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And then divorce was often, yeah, it was frowned upon in society.
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These poor, these poor women who got married virgins and got taken, by the way, most of
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They got taken care of most of their life, right?
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Now, is it peachy in every single relationship?
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No, but it's not peachy right now in every single relationship.
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In the 1950s, 20% of women were minors when they got married.
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Well, I need to see the statistics on that, but that's what I looked at.
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I mean, from what I looked at, I could be wrong, but I looked at multiple sources.
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I mean, there is a lot of fake news that could be wrong, but it was very prevalent that there
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I mean, probably, yeah, which are red states, I have to say.
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Hey, first chair, GTFO, you are absolutely crazy.
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Hey, I mean, I live in Tampa, Florida right now, so you never know.
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Would you rather be alone in the woods with a bear or be alone in a restroom with a mentally
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1950, the median age at first marriage was 22.8 for men and 20.3 for women.
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Yeah, in 1950, the median age for the first marriage was 22.8 for men and 20.3 for women.
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Yeah, but I'm just telling you what the average age was.
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It doesn't, that doesn't mean what I, I mean, that doesn't discredit exactly what I said.
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Yeah, but you didn't give me, what's the source for what you said so I can look at it?
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I mean, I don't, I'm not allowed to even have my phone.
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If you refer to multiple females as woman one more time, I may pass away and die on the spot.
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Brian is the most successful babysitter in Santa Barbara.
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For the ladies, become agreeable, and you will be able to find the good man.
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To Andrew the King, that lady who attacked you and was raging like a slack-jawed crackhead.
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When she was in your face and you went, whammy and me.
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That they could get married with their parents' permission at seventeen, and they were usually
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only marrying men who were within two to three years older than them.
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And not only that, with parents' permission, you can do it right now in the United States
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If you can do it right this second with parental permission.
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That could be wrong, but that's not what I read.
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I mean, yeah, I'm saying we both saw some more sources, but.
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So, it's like a seventeen-year-old marrying a nineteen-year-old?
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Wasn't it like the age of consent in some states today?
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know those statistics, but that's just what I read.
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But, like, so a seventeen-year-old married a twenty-year-old.
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But they said it was an average of five years with a minor.
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It's still not as bad as, like, if they were doing forty or thirty-year-olds.
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I do not want to debate him even in the cyclist.
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You should never take advice from people dumber than you, bro.
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Except on people that are things that they're better than you at.
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One, check back right now the situation between Andrew and Priscilla and admit both you and Andrew lied.
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Tomorrow, John Antony Lifestyle will expose you as a liar.
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It is ash underscore martinec, M-A-R-T-I-N-E-C.
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And I do want to state, calling a woman beautiful or gorgeous means so much more than calling them fine.
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And also, just real quick, just on the last point there.
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You can't look at any of these eras and not see other things inside of the society which are bad, right?
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I definitely would prefer that women get married 18, 20, 25.
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But that doesn't mean that there wasn't tons of other great things about these eras, even if the percentages that you're talking about are correct.
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Yeah, it was great for men and, yeah, like capitalism.
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And all of, yeah, it was great for buying things or whatnot, but...
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I think that if you ask most women if they wanted a lifestyle just like that, I mean, what we hear nonstop is, yes, we do.
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That's why they're asking, I want $300,000 a year.
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It's literally that same lifestyle which is glorified throughout that same era.
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Yeah, but you're in, like, California where people are more materialistic and stuff like that.
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Texas' whole motto is, like, everything's bigger in Texas.
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It's bigger in Texas, but, I mean, it's cheaper in Texas, too.
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We've got the biggest roadhouse, and we've got the biggest trucks, and we've got the biggest guns.
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But we're all, like, the standard of, like, it takes a lot less money to have that in, I mean, in Texas.
07:12:59.580
Hey, share for my institutes at Jordanis Royal.
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Tampa Edition is a really nice place to go, so I'll take a DM, and we'll see.
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So let me just blast through these notes, then, that we have for Jen here.
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You disagree, or there's a lot that you disagree with, like, dating with large age gaps.
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Statistically, those marriages are more likely to fail.
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Not only that, you say you want a woman that's not going to be nagging and ruining your piece, but also want a young woman.
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In most cases, I don't believe young women have the emotional maturity.
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Well, you say this, have the emotional maturity yet in life to deal with conflict properly.
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Not only that, but they also don't really know for sure what they want out of life yet.
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They haven't dated enough to even know what they're looking for in a partner.
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This may seem to go well now, but in 10 years when she's still hot and you aren't looking so good, she may decide this isn't the life for her.
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That's why there's a lot of divorces and stuff.
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I mean, that's partially that, but, yeah, agreeable women become less agreeable once they mature.
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Wait, so as women age, they become less agreeable?
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Women just counter, like you're saying, young women are more likely to nag or whatever.
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Oh, no, I didn't say that they're more likely to nag.
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Well, you said not only that, you say you want a woman that's not going to be nagging and ruining your piece, but also want a young woman.
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In most cases, you don't believe young women have the emotional maturity yet in life to deal with conflict.
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Conflict is when they do disagree, they're more prone to not dealing with conflict in a manner that's, let's say, the way I'm speaking, that's not screaming and cussing and stuff.
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When it comes to this age gap stuff, this is something that I've kind of thought about.
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This idea of a keeper, somebody who's a keeper, the reality is women who are single at 30, 35, 40 are far less likely to be keepers.
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Like, of the available single women, there's a smaller pool of keepers than women who are at 20.
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Because they got kept, they got kept, but it's realistic.
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Yeah, but I think a keeper can turn into trash as well with age or just having...
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We have a 21-year-old woman here who, she's way more agreeable than the 31-year-old who can't take accountability for anything.
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No, the girl who got kicked, the girl who left, who was sitting there.
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I guarantee you, every single guy watching, every guy watching, put looks to the side, whatever, they're going to pick her off of personality than this crazy girl.
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I agree with that, but just, I base things a lot off of statistics and just, if you look at statistics, it shows like the larger age gap, look it up.
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No, what are the statistics as it pertains to young women, like, I guess, being less...
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Because you said, not going to be nagging and ruining your piece.
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I think older women are more likely to be nagging and ruining your piece.
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Well, yeah, as they get older, if you marry someone that knows what they want and you agree on, because they know what they want, you agree on that,
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then, yeah, they're less likely to nag, because you already, you know who you're marrying.
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People change so much between the age of 18 and 30.
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So, if you marry someone that's older, then you're more prone to agree on things.
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If you marry someone 18 who hasn't had the life experience to know what they want, later on in life, when they have more experience, you're more prone to...
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They might change their mind on decisions that you agree on, is my point.
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I don't even understand what the hell you're talking about.
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I'm just going to move it on just for the sake of time.
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You said that you get that young women a lot of the times are hotter...
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Young women a lot of the times are hotter, but you have your eggs frozen, LOL.
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Yeah, a lot of this first stuff, I was kind of baiting you to get on the show, first of all, but...
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I was, because I wanted to get on the show and try to say my opinion on things, but...
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I mean, a lot of the things I said, I try to come off...
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I didn't put context on things, which is why you kept saying that I kept backpulleting,
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I mean, I'm probably, like, the most basic person there is, you know?
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Like, I said that on purpose, because I wanted to say my opinion.
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No, just now you said earlier, yes, it was bimbo, but I think just now you said hobo.
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Yeah, can we just move on from my word mishaps?
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It takes several rounds, you know, just to increase your odds of having a kid in the future.
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I am disabled, so when I was younger, I didn't think it was a good idea.
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But now that my health is getting better and my finances are getting better, then I think
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it's more of a possibility, which is why I froze my eggs, so that I could have the option
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No, actually, with my disability, which is crazy, with the autoimmune disease, they're
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actually trying to develop drugs, because women, a lot of times, go into remission during
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that, because of certain hormones, so they're trying to make drugs to induce that hormone.
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Okay, you said it's more importantly to find a well-rounded woman who knows what she wants
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You have more baggage from the bad things that have happened to you.
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You think that only happens when people don't go through therapy and don't change their
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I think that's more powerful than anything else.
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I'm still hot, so in this modern age, it seems pretty outdated.
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You said you don't fully believe in your views about abortion as well.
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You said stupid and mentally ill people having kids is what's making society turn into the
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That's just the way the world's going is people with mental disorders and stuff, they tend
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I don't agree with abortion in a lot of stances.
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No, people with mental disorders do not have more kids.
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I think, yeah, poor people and people with mental disorders...
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Well, first of all, being poor doesn't mean you have mental disorders.
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I mean, you are more inclined to have mental disorders if you're poor.
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The religious do not have, as a subset, more mental disorders than the non-religious.
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Just stop for five seconds, you babble machine.
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So when you're talking about the religious are having more kids than any other demographic.
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The more heavily religious, the more kids you have.
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And by the way, they tend to have the least amount of mental illness, especially in comparison
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Progressives have the most amount of mental illness.
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And women have the most amount of mental illness, by the way.
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So if you really wanted to attack mental illness...
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Men have undiagnosed mental illness, because they don't go to the therapist.
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Or I could just say, men just don't have as much mental illness, because you haven't
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That's why men are four times more likely to unalive themselves.
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They're four times more likely to be able to do it, because they're better at it.
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So what men do is they use boom-boom sticks, put it in their mouth, and pull the trigger,
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Why we're not equal, and men are not doing that.
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Why are you babbling still, instead of getting back to the original topic?
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Why are you probably babbling when I answer something?
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So anyway, before you go into, like, psychobabble mode again, I would like to focus on this
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So moving backwards, when you're talking about mental health, if you really wanted to reduce
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mental health, you would reduce the number of women born.
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If you wanted to really increase mental health, you would reduce the number of women born,
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because women have many times the amount of mental health issues than men do.
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I would say aggression, yeah, and all of that is mental health issues.
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If you're meek, does that mean you're in control of your emotions?
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You don't have to be meek to not get agitated and flip out on people.
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Well, so first of all, aggressiveness does not mean that you're not in control of your emotions.
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Some people are just more flamboyant when they talk.
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Some people may have other reasons they talk loudly or they talk quietly.
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Do you want soldiers in the military to be aggressive?
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So you want mentally ill people in the military?
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There's a lot of mentally ill people, but they have to take a cycle of...
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Do you want mentally ill people in the military?
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They could shoot someone who's innocent or something that pisses them off.
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We want aggressive soldiers to shoot the enemies of the United States.
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And so you would just consider that, oh, it's a mental illness because it's not feminine.
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I think that you just consider things that aren't feminine to be mental illnesses.
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What's really funny is that the most mentally ill people are the most feminine because they're
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I'm just saying there's a lot of undiagnosed men with mental illness because they don't...
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Like, it's looked at being weak if you get help.
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And I think that's one of the reasons why they're more likely to delete themselves is
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because it's seen as being weak to get help for these issues.
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No, it's because men, right, when we do counseling, we do counseling with each other without doing
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And so, for instance, with women, women use reputational damage and slander to attack each
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Men beat each other up when we're really upset with each other.
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Women tend to slander and do reputational damage to men and women.
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That's what they tend to do in order to attack people or things like this.
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So, if women have a friend group, they have to be really cautious about what they say
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to their friends because that becomes ammunition for slander.
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And women intuitively know this, which is why they're super cautious with their friend groups
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and the things they say, the things they don't say, because that shit can be used against
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And that's the only shit that can be used against them later.
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So, men, on the other hand, we can be a lot more open within our friend group.
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We can talk to each other about things without worrying too much about the knife jacking,
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things like this, at least in comparison to women, right?
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And we can be a lot more open about these things.
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We don't need to go to some fucking broad, by the way.
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I'm sure that men don't want to go talk to women about their problems.
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I think it's generalization that we would slander each other.
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I've never known one single female, even one that I didn't get along with that, went
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So, if you want to damage a man as a woman, what do you do?
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Yeah, I mean, it could be slander, or they could be telling you the truth.
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But reputational damage, what if it's the truth, though?
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Like, for instance, if Ted, if Ted over here is an asshole, right?
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It's just that I can deal with it by punching Ted in the mouth, right?
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They can't be like, well, Tina over here is a bitch, so I'm going to punch her in the
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Yeah, but when a woman brings up things that actually happen, a man will do the same thing
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I just don't see any statistics that says, like, one is...
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I think that a lot of women feel the need to...
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Yes, you can actually find polling data on this.
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Do you think men or women are more likely to slander?
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Right now, there's literally like a bad baby Alabama Barker.
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Like, Travis's daughter slander going on right now.
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Would you be more likely to tell a woman your darkest secrets or a man?
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I would say a woman, but I'd choose who I talk to about that stuff very choicefully.
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Well, this guy who was your best friend, did you confide a bunch of your darkest secrets
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But remember, I don't have a good relationship with men.
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If you think that women slander more than men, why would you be more likely to tell your
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The person I tell my darkest secrets to is my sister.
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But also, for some women, you could just tell what the girl code is from the jump.
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And with men, you don't know if they're really trying to be your friend or they're just trying
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to be your friend to stay around long enough to try to fight.
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So, it really depends, which is why I don't like to tell men that type of stuff.
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Or they'll use your preferences that you tell them of men or what men have done to you
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If it's a friend, she's never going to do that because she's never going to want to be
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But I've never had to deal with slander before.
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Do you think that women talk shit behind your back?
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I was like, especially in L.A. when it comes to exclusivity and all that stuff.
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I think that I have more balls than all the dudes, and I will prove it to you.
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Somebody has to send in a TTS for me to allow somebody to eat octopus on stream.
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Do you have to cook it, though, or is it just...
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Since the product is already cooked, it only needs to be heated.
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So that's just more for, like, taste, I guess, or...
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I've eaten a lot of gross foods from a lot of different countries, so let's do it.
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Last time I ate octopus, it was cold, too, as a dish.
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I think I'm going to add this as a tier in the TTS.
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Like, you have to do, like, 300 or 400, and one of the girls has to eat fucking octopus.
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I didn't think anybody would actually accept this.
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Did somebody request that, or was that your idea?
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Did somebody request that, or was that your idea?
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I was, like, looking at Costco, and I was like, oh, they have octopus.
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And I was like, let me see if a girl will eat it on the show, and then...
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I didn't think you guys would say you guys are your girls.
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I never said I was married, and I'll eat the octopus.
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I'm going to let some messages come through, though.
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To the women, if you were swimming in the ocean by yourself for whatever reason,
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and you had to choose between a great white shark or a dolphin, which would you choose?
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Andrew, you lied about the sequence of the events.
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Why, instead of arguing in vain, just check back the kick out of Priscilla on your phone right now,
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I mean, my understanding is, like, he did something to get under her skin, then she walked over,
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but she was being belligerent first in general, and just totally, like, contravening TOS.
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So, I mean, but I don't want to screw over Joe McDonald.
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If you're swimming in the ocean by yourself for whatever reason, and you had to choose between a great white shark or a dolphin,
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Well, if you look half as good as you do tonight on the podcast, then I'm in for a real treat next weekend when we go on our date.
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Sometimes I'll start a sentence and I don't even know where it's going.
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A beautiful quote by Michael Scott endorsed by Chair One.
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Bree and Andy, as Magas who are now openly pro-Russia and pro-Putin, threatening U.S.'s European allies,
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would you rather fight the Democrats with the Russians or the Russians with the Democrats?
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Chair One is someone that fought in Afghanistan.
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I have the honor to fight with some of the most aggressive men I've ever seen.
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No, they're not all mentally ill, but I also know someone who fought in a war and decided to unalive someone.
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And then, Jay, would you rather fight the Democrats with the Russians or the Russians with the Democrats?
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Would you rather fight the Democrats with the Russians or the Russians?
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Brian, if the TikTok account of Kenzie is stupid, why are you invited her?
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All these girls have fathers and brothers who will cut your throat, ISIS style.
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Yeah, I did say that to her after she was needless, a total needless buzzkill as it pertains to Andrew Wilson.
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We have a panel of other guests here who are women who did not watch the debate yesterday.
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It was completely inappropriate for her to bring that up.
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To paint Andrew as a predator is disgusting and egregious.
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And then, uh, also, she, she, she really likes to paint people in this really bad light.
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She's made videos on me essentially saying that I abused a woman because I called her a degenerate and kicked her out because she was trolling.
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She was not following, this is, uh, not, not the girl tonight, but she made a video saying that we're abusive and we're, uh, humiliated, like all this crazy stuff.
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And I call her TikTok stupid and that I'm the bad guy, but she, she's allowed to say insulting things about me.
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But I just say your, her TikTok is stupid and that's where you draw the line.
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She's going to get her, she's going to, is she going to get her brother to meet you?
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Octopus, Andrew, I may have a higher IQ, but you are far smarter than me.
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IQ doesn't necessarily mean intelligence, by the way.
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Just saying, would you want your man to protect you or not?
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I will say, because you said that you would like to wait till marriage.
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Or you, right, you would like to wait till marriage.
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So, I would say, because you are afraid to say that to a man, because you think that
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I wouldn't go so far to say that that's catfishing, but what I would say is that it's not, it's
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going to set you up to not be able to potentially get what you want, and so basically, you're
07:40:20.500
setting yourself up for falling in that area when you want to stay pure, right?
07:40:27.320
No, and I agree with you, and that's one thing that I've been trying to work on recently
07:40:29.740
is like, especially when it comes to modesty, like, you know, as a 21-year-old, everyone
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wants to go out, everyone wants to have fun, but even doing that, like, I want to really
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hold on to my, you know, purity in that sense, because I'm trying to attract the man, you
07:40:43.820
But that's something that's so hard, especially you being, like, religious and stuff, like,
07:40:48.780
So, also, you've got to think, where are you looking for these men?
07:40:51.700
Because if you're going out, and you're in the party phase, and you're meeting men at
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the club, those are not men that are going to have those same views that you want to
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have moving forward, so go to church, you know?
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Find a church, try to move in there, go to coffee shops, find a Christian app, those
07:41:10.300
are, those are options of where you can go to potentially meet a like-minded man.
07:41:16.080
Yeah, no, I agree, and I'm trying, I'm trying to put myself out there, I just, like, just
07:41:21.200
get so hard, I get so hard, but I would love, like, that's my whole thing, like, I opened
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the package, and, like, a little bit of octopus juice came out of the package.
07:41:33.260
No, but Brian is not having a good time with octopus juice.
07:41:36.160
You don't want a man who's going to disrespect you.
07:41:40.580
Yeah, I don't know about the whole thing, but I'm going to try it.
07:41:48.620
Dude, I was trying, I thought you were saying I was going to knock something out.
07:41:52.180
It's going to manifest itself in other areas of life.
07:41:54.900
Okay, so you do want somebody who's solid, and who's on that journey himself, because
07:42:01.760
honestly, I would say that, like, a man who is-
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If he won't eat pineapple pizza, then an octopus, I don't know, you know, or perfect.
07:42:17.900
I'm going to ask you for someone who wants to work on themselves.
07:42:20.940
It's so true, Christian, because the definition of Christian is Christ-like.
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A true Christian in the middle is going to be looking for that.
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Wow, these girls just don't just talk to each other.
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I don't know about that, girl, but what does it taste like?
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They don't believe that you actually took a legitimate bite.
07:44:01.480
It smells definitely a lot worse than it tastes.
07:45:33.360
What if I do, like, bull testicles or something, you know?
07:45:57.380
Wes Watson, when did you get out of prison, bro?
07:46:00.700
What things did you stick up your ass this time?
07:46:14.800
But much love from the Crucible crew and have a burrito on me.
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Andrew, I hope to be as grounded as you one day.
07:46:30.400
Chair one said was I was trying to say about IQ versus smarts.
07:46:43.100
The octopus has been the most poorly executed bit on the show.
07:46:58.440
I think we all know Brian ain't eating no puss.
07:47:09.700
I think octopus is better than some women's, so.
07:47:26.300
I'm just saying she didn't insult Andrew first.
07:47:30.300
Andrew, check her kick out right now on your phone.
07:47:38.300
The girl who came over here and tried to insult you.
07:47:58.380
She was being the brattyest, most entitled, rude.
07:48:28.060
And I was like, then I started making fun of her.
07:49:22.840
You know how Trump got in trouble for mocking that reporter?
07:49:34.760
We have to, you know, we got to be, we got to be, you know.
07:49:48.100
You know, she just said that as somebody who defends the LGBTQ community, she dropped the F-bomb.
07:49:55.760
Like you were offended that she dropped the F-bomb.
07:50:11.700
And he didn't do anything until she attacked him first.
07:50:25.140
I mean, what I remember was I was just minding my own business, staring at this guy, and
07:50:32.700
And then I was like, I curled like this to protect myself from the onslaught.
07:50:37.520
And I was like, then my voice came out a little high pitch.
07:51:02.180
And like, you know, look, I think it was also, you were jonesing a little bit for a cigarette
07:51:05.920
and that's why your hand kind of, like, you were like, oh, I'm really, I need some
07:51:13.440
That sounds like a Bill Clinton sort of situation.
07:51:16.120
Look, well, that depends on what the meaning of this is.
07:51:40.760
She didn't have any octopus because she would have slapped you with the octopus.
07:51:47.540
I was worried she was going to pick up her glass and fucking chuck it at me.
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I'm going to do these last few and then we're just kidding.
07:52:00.060
I hope you consider inviting men who don't realize they're simps on the show to debate
07:52:04.900
Any update on Matthew Hussey being on the show?
07:52:16.740
I mean, it's a controversial show and he appeals to women, so just probably not.
07:52:20.300
As you guys know, I only exclusively debate women.
07:52:24.900
What did that one about me being delusional say?
07:52:33.160
Andrew mocked her, calling her deaf and stupid, albeit in a very obviously joking way.
07:52:38.200
She walked over to Andrew and tried to intimidate him.
07:52:46.900
Blake, you want to try to find the portion where she...
07:52:50.460
No, we probably shouldn't do it again because all the slurs.
07:53:00.900
You probably didn't hear it because she wasn't near a mic.
07:53:03.640
But she came back over here and started laying into me.
07:53:12.440
Also, there's a portion of the show where we had gone, like, I went intro.
07:53:18.280
I don't know if there was, like, anything that anybody missed.
07:53:27.400
Wes Watson, you stick stuff up your ass for fun in prison.
07:53:31.260
Telling anybody else to be a man is hilarious, STF you.
07:53:40.740
It's just a person who really fucking hates me.
07:53:56.020
I have gum, but we're not supposed to be chewing it.
07:54:24.420
You've now been graped without consent at least twice on the show.
07:54:27.960
How many burritos to get Andrew his own security while on your show?
07:55:05.660
Oh no, that's from a long time ago, but there was another one that just came in.
07:55:20.380
I just don't want to, I mean, he sent in a super chat.
07:55:27.560
Here, let me see if there's a chat that came in.
07:55:36.700
Andrew, just check the video back on your phone.
07:55:40.180
You started mocking her voice and it was the reason she approached you.
07:55:46.960
That is, that is the case that I did start mocking her voice before she came to me.
07:55:50.740
But what I'm saying is the thing that led to me mocking her voice was she came over and
07:55:58.580
So she came over and she was like, and you with that Korean girl, you don't mock people's
07:56:03.640
And then I was like, then I started making fun of her.
07:56:15.280
I was just sitting here and then she came over to me and was like, and you with that Korean
07:56:19.920
girl, you were dressing down her culture and probably she started going at me.
07:56:27.620
About the whole, like, it was probably with the, to do with the bowing stuff.
07:56:31.180
And then I mocked her and then that's when she ran over, but she, but you're absolutely wrong.
07:56:45.640
And by the way, Andrew, even if she didn't say that stuff about like the Korean thing,
07:56:50.040
uh, her conduct, even if she didn't even address you directly, her conduct was egregious.
07:56:56.580
And I think you would have been warranted to have mocked her, even if she didn't say
07:57:01.980
But I, but it just happens that I didn't, that I was just like staying out of it.
07:57:07.040
She was heading out and I just like was minding my own business.
07:57:09.960
And then she came back and was like, and you donated $30 focus burrito boy, Brian and
07:57:18.180
Andrew, if Russia attacked the U S would you as maggots rather side with Democrat Americans
07:57:23.280
against the Russians or side with Russians against the Democrats?
07:57:27.260
You're saying if it was Democrats against Russians, who would you rather side with in the United
07:57:33.360
I would still side, but Democrats, I mean, it's my country.
07:57:40.980
I mean, they're, they're a bit, we can go like there are Democrats to deal with.
07:57:54.760
I, uh, went down with an older wealthy, you have, look, Jenna, this was a pretty brutal
07:58:02.080
Oh, you have a lot of notes left or Jen, Jennifer, my bad.
07:58:06.360
Oh, uh, like we obviously can't get through all of it.
07:58:12.380
I don't know if that's likely, I'm happy to come back, but so we can finish your notes,
07:58:32.180
It said chair girl number two was delusional and I didn't see that one.
07:58:39.380
But I mean, you haven't been sitting in chair two the whole night, right?
07:58:44.560
That doesn't mean it's, that doesn't mean it's referencing you.
07:58:51.960
It may have been directed at whoever was there before.
07:58:53.980
It takes like an hour or so for them to even, um, no.
07:58:58.600
You, you know, you are, you are fucking delusional.
07:59:02.380
Um, okay guys, like the video, please like the video.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
07:59:18.480
Thank you to everyone who so generously super chats, donates, and supports the show.
07:59:26.400
A lot of our video, the majority of our live streams get demonetized.
07:59:30.680
It's, I would, this with the whole F's, all that stuff earlier, I'm fairly confident.
07:59:37.840
This one's definitely going to get demonetized.
07:59:48.140
So I appreciate you guys, uh, immensely because we could not do it without you guys.
07:59:57.600
I think tomorrow is probably going to be a day off because of the no show, but we do
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have back assuming fingers crossed back to back debates, uh, Tuesday.
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And then we have a very solid debate scheduled for Wednesday.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram, if you can
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If you can follow us and check if you have available prime sub to drop us really quick.
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It's a quick for easy way to support the show every single month.
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Oh, final thing, discord.gg slash whatever, all the craziness of the kick out rage, quit,
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I'm going to be posting that on the behind the scenes discord.gg slash whatever.
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And, uh, just remember, like the video, please on your way out.
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We do have one final one here from Spyro donated $50.
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If a jailmate falls on a peen in prison and nobody's awake to feel it, did grape actually
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Those of you who are watching on Twitch, we're not going to even pull it up, but I am going
08:01:18.340
I don't really know what he's doing, but, uh, thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
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Uh, guys really appreciate all the support tonight.
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It was a insane, crazy, wild show here while I'm waiting for that.
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Andrew, if you're so certain I'm wrong, why don't you check your phone?
08:01:44.380
She was saying shit about the, like, the Kareem bowing dispute.
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Seat two, I'll donate $69 if you tag your name on the billboard forehead.
08:02:03.880
Um, he'll donate $69 if you write your name on her forehead.
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To me, shares one and two are my type, but chair two is too demanding and delusional.
08:02:37.760
Shares three and four look okay to me and are not ugly, but they are not my type.
08:02:48.660
Why not have them on the show to showcase how their sympasaurus ways are affecting the dating
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The guy was like, they ended up getting divorced.
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You have to write Brian's name on her forehead.
08:04:13.820
Does this have like racist undertones because I'm white and you guys are.
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Will you allow me to tag my first name on her forehead?
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She got close to Andrew after he mocked her voice.
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Like she only came at me after I was mocking her.
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But what led to mocking her was her coming over and she was like, and you, blah, blah, blah,
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You mocking someone's culture and blah, blah, blah.
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So, yes, I was matching energy, you fucking dick.
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I think that that's the point of why they wanted this done.
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That's why I always say that I have a big forehead.
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It's not because of receding headlines or hairline.
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You have to put that knowledge somewhere, right?
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Yeah, I'm just minding my own business, and they just come for me.
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To the women who ate some octopus, I am impressed.
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They would have a better chance in a survival situation.
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Please do one more slow spin on camera with a wink and a kiss.
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By the way, I want to just take this moment now.
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I want to, guys, Andrew is a dear, dear friend.
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I want you guys to go subscribe to his YouTube channel, The Crucible, and I also want you guys
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to check out his program, DebateUniversity.com, verbal combat at DebateUniversity.com.
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If you want to become a master debater like this great scholar and gentleman and really
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the great mind of our time, truly one of the greats, Socrates, Plato, Andrew Wilson, same sentence, deal with it.
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And, guys, we have in store some really good debates coming.
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Does anybody want to, Andrew, just have a pineapple.
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It's been sitting there in the heat of the studio.
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I'm going to just order a full pineapple for you next show.
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Did you reach the threshold for me eating the pineapple?
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For the Super Chat threshold for the pineapple pizza party, yes, we did.
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I guess he didn't think you're worth a hundred.
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She was going to date you and just unleash that pent-up.
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Andrew, when will you debate the debate King Manor reports 1v1 on Islam?
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Manor spanked Tomfoolery Parker and Planet Peterson in a debate recently.
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I mean, look, with Parker, we made multiple, multiple attempts to get the debate set up,
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Why don't you get a Christian apologist to debate Islam, you idiot?
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Go tell him to pick a political topic and we'll debate it.
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Okay, guys, like the video, Joe McDonald lost his chance.
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I hope you guys have a good night and we will see you guys next time.