WORST Guest ＊EVER＊？! Feral Karen KICKED OUT! CRASH OUT？! HEATED Debate w⧸ HATER？! ｜ Dating Talk 296
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Summary
On today's episode of the Whatever Podcast, I debate a hater who calls me a jerk, and that I do a disservice to humanity. I will zealously dispute her claims, so stick around for that!
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating
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Hellscape. I'm your host, Brian Atlas. On today's episode of the Whatever Podcast, I will be debating
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a hater who called me a jerk and that I do a disservice to humanity. I will zealously dispute
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her claims. Stick around for that. We have an eccentric mother-daughter duo. The mother is a
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renowned psychic mystic medium clairvoyant who communicates with different alien factions
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the daughter is a whore i'm kidding i'm kidding she does do only fans though uh we have a canadian
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ginger feminist only fans girl who is a swinger which means she has sex with other men besides
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her husband she also wishes to debate me on a few topics we have a sound healer and reiki
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practitioner is that you okay who claims the show objectifies women which i intend to stat
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steadfastly contest we have a danish strumpet who also wishes to debate with me
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and we have a self-proclaimed torta her words not mine we have another canadian here
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that's all you get we have a uh we have a russian baddie who completely agrees with me
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on everything w russia i guess we have returning guest chinese barbie doll
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okay is it is the fade on okay hold on right click it right click it right click center
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let's just see what cut just put it on cut
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ten thousand dollars a year is that right i changed to a hundred million how much was it um
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20 20 million at least 20 million okay we have an 18 year old america first
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who is in an age gap relationship of 14 years what a stud he must be and we have a democrat
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Christian? I saw you wearing, you were wearing a
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cross in one of your photos. Oh, oh, okay.
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Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves, starting with you.
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Go ahead. Hi, my name is Kaya. I'm 22 years old and I was born in Boca Raton, Florida, but I
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currently live in clearwater florida and i go to spc college what are you studying there uh digital
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forensics all right and are you freshman sophomore junior senior like uh senior okay so you're
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graduating soon yeah with my associates oh with your associates are you planning to get your four
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four-year degree yeah i might okay in what um it's just digital forensics are you right-handed
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i don't know oh i don't know all right i'm gonna fix the fade thing you write their ages
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here wait hold on i don't trust your penmanship fuck that shit i know it's bad um
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the fade is gonna kill the fade is killing me we can't have a fucking fade on the whole show
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oh you want us to delete everything no no the trash can next to it
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I'm going to want you guys to continue on with your introductions.
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All right, continue on with your introductions.
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I will be right back, just right there, the age in order.
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I do OnlyFans, and I have three different associate degrees, and I'm going to school for accounting to get, like, my four-year.
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Hello, I am Jennifer. I am 58 years old, and I grew up in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and now I live in Clearwater, Florida.
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and i am a psychic clairvoyant and medium but i also have two degrees one in business and one in
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registered nursing and um that's about all to say about me okay uh a couple questions going back to
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you we fixed the thing uh so okay you and you said you do only fans is that correct a little
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closer to the mic for me yes i do all right how long you've been doing that sorry i've been doing
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OnlyFans for like three, four years, three, four years. Okay. All right. Uh, and you said you are
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a clairvoyant. Yes. Psychic. What was that? Psychic medium. I do just about all areas and
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mediumship. Okay. Uh, mediumship. You, you're, uh, uh, a medium, a psychic, a clairvoyant,
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a mystic yes are those all the same thing or are they different um medium i connect with people
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that passed um psychic i do clairvoyant like i don't have to have an oracle i can just read
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and um i do tarot if someone wants it but it's all somewhat similar okay um
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and have you you've made predictions i have that have come true yes can you
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psychic one of us at the table um it's kind of hard to do just like that i usually kind of go
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into a quiet space with the person but um it's a lot of mixed can i have you pop the glasses off
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maybe uh can somebody come tiffany can you uh i'll have tiffany just come and grab it sure
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absolutely all right and uh how long you've been doing that over 35 years okay do you have to go
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the school for that or no i went to school for totally different what did you go to school for
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registered nursing and business degrees can you combine that shit like be a nurse and actually
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yes intuitive health counselor okay so when you were but so during your time as a nurse
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were you also receiving psychic messages um yes i've done i've worked both i still nurse so did
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like a guy ever come into the, like, what were you emergency medicine or what were you just like?
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I've done a little of everything. My last stint was peds nursing. I still do. Pediatrics. Okay.
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I still, yep. So did you ever like a guy walks in, wait, pediatrics, like kids? Well, I used to
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work with seniors and I had a lot of experiences then. Yes. So does a guy ever walk in and you're
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like yeah you're gonna get herpes did that ever did you ever have a vision of that yes i've had
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visions on people that came in and i kind of knew what they were all about have you even what the
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end game do you have a vision on on me not yet oh do you have to okay any visions do you have any
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visions for any of the women here um i see some they're gonna be very productive in their future
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yeah right now and um yeah okay it'll come to me by then are any of them gonna die within the next
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five years oh gosh um no not that i feel no yeah i usually try to avoid predicting that i don't
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think that's really for any one well i do i do dark magic um so like i kind of i kind of feel
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like i get some vibes from some of the women that like if necessary i do too but like good dark
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magic yeah like preventative preventative absolutely dark magic yeah yes like turning
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bad situations around i actually have a prediction about her so she's gonna stop dating black guys
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when she turns 30 that's my prediction we'll see we'll see or i have two simultaneous predictions
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well i guess they can coincide she's also going to have multiple um baby daddies
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yeah torta barbie enjoyed that one um okay so but okay so can you demonstrate the psychic
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ability um what number am i thinking of what number oh gosh um not seven it was actually
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So do you, because I feel like this is a genetic gift, the psychic abilities.
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But I do, like, a lot of, like, manifesting stuff.
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But when she gets really mad, it gets really, like, they all have separate gifts.
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And I have a son who's only 15, but he tells things too, and then he'll just walk away.
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He'll tell what's going to happen, just walk away.
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And then a final thing, then we'll move it along.
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They communicate telepathically with me if I need them or if I'm alone.
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Do they speak English or what language do they speak?
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Believe it or not, they can take on anyone.
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But, okay, wait, so what do the Pleiadians look like?
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They have, like, almost white and translucent skin, very pale.
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They're, like, of Nordic descent, it appears, but Nordic's more of their descent.
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Just a temperature check on the table here.
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I almost feel like if I had sex with her, it would almost be like heaven.
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It would almost be like having sex with an alien.
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But so, yes, who would have sex with an alien?
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There was a lot in Avatar that was very similar to Factual.
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are you where do you you live in the woods or something what literally yes i guess literally
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okay all right moving on but uh any other alien factions um andromeda oh shit i feel that's where
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you belong yeah one day and i feel like i want to go home like a lot i feel that a lot kaya
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you're the daughter have you interfaced with any of the aliens no but you do you believe yeah okay
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okay all right well i would date an alien so if you have any connections i will definitely hook
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you up link me up link me up okay uh what about you great um i'm tori i grew up in the bay area
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Um, I now live in the Lake Tahoe area. Um, I'm a PhD student in my final year. Um, it's a business
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management program. Being a PhD student means you teach classes, do research. Um, and I think that's
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it. Age? 39. All right. And your undergrad was in what? Economics. Okay. Do you have your master's?
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I do. I do. Public administration. And then you're working on business for your PhD. It's
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business management. Okay. All right. Uh, and you said 39. Correct. Any college or university for
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you going back to you? Um, I did business at Goldie Beacom and bachelor's degree or no,
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I did bachelor's with business and then I went to nursing. Okay. Uh, college for you. Yeah. I,
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i have three different associate degrees but i'm still in school well i'm taking a gap right now
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i'm not gonna lie but i'm still in school what are you studying currently accounting okay intro
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i want to comment about the alien thing first before the introduction if that's okay
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you know the avatars they have tails yeah it's i think it's like too much of an animal for me to
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to fuck but if they didn't have tails and they were just blue giant men i would do it well some
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humans have tails i wouldn't fuck humans with tails either well they have like the well what
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if they hit it i wouldn't fuck a human with a tail even if they hit it you know yeah that wouldn't
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be like bestiality i think you fucking avatar brian i think fucking avatar would be that it
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would be uh like they live in the woods they camp trees you know what it would be i don't know if
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there's even a term for it it would be uh there's a term for everything nowadays what what's like
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the is there a latin term like xenoality xeniality i don't know uh anyways okay intro please my name
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is marie i'm 22 i'm danish living in spain i have a high school and i worked as a personal trainer
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for five years and I do OnlyFans now. All right welcome and you're you're born in Denmark yeah
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okay and living in Spain yeah okay what about you? I am Riley Redd and I am 30 years old from
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Canada Ontario and I currently do content creation but also have my education in a health related
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field all right and uh let's see i had a question for you but it will come to me later go ahead
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hello everyone i'm christina your favorite chinese barbie doll is here again and i'm turning to 22
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after two days i'm a student from la all right and uh what do you any work or anything no no work
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and your dad's rich yeah that's your job uh daughter that's your job right or i guess not
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job but um okay what's your dad do like what's his kind of work um he's he has his own company
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um like build a bridge and the buildings okay construction yeah okay all right what about you
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My name is Adri Blake. I was born in Los Angeles. I live between Los Angeles and Florida. I am a gold dealer, a Reiki master and sound healer, which is also very intuitive. I'm a mystic.
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So you put your hands over the person and it heals them.
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I can't say I can fix it, but I can say Reiki is used in a lot of hospitals nationwide to treat cancer.
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for the patients. It does calm them down and really helps them get through the process.
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Okay. Now, over the table, can you just demonstrate like a hand movement you would
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do when you're doing Reiki? Sure. Well, I can bring in the positive energy into this podcast
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at this time. We can invite our angels and our Reiki masters in. We can bring in the shokurei,
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carried 24 you said any college uh university i took the carried course uh where in canada
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from british columbia british columbia okay uh like vancouver or yeah okay what about you
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uh my name is stephanie i am 40 from anaheim california and i do have an associate's degree
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in science. I also was a LVN. Didn't make it to quite RN. And I do claims, and I'm a comedian.
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All right. Next. My name is Elena. I am 31 years old. I was born in Russia,
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and I moved here when I was 10. I live in Wisconsin now. I studied business management
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and marketing in college and uh yeah all right uh welcome what about you uh my name is marie
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i'm 18 i'm a student in high school sorry no you're good i'm a student in high school right now
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oh you're still in high school yeah 18 uh are you planning to go to college
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i don't really know what i want to do yet okay where are you from uh texas what city
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corpus christi all right and um you uh have a job no not yet okay all right uh that's the
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intros for everybody welcome welcome before before we get into the relationship status
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uh i want to jump into one or two of the disagreements before we dive into the relationship
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stuff. So why don't we start there? And we're going to start, pull up the discord, hide the
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super chat. Um, so let me get my notes going. Uh, we are starting with
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Tay, Toy, Tori. Sorry. What the fuck? Tori. All right, Tori. Uh, I'm going to have you read the
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message that we're about to pull up go ahead pull it up so okay don't pull up the one with the dude
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it's it's the the one above it that's you are a jerk yeah yeah go ahead
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go ahead you are a jerk you cast women who are less intelligent and more shallow than general
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than the general population on average but present them as average women in an attempt to distort
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viewers which is misspelled perceptions of women to service to humanity okay so um i think first
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we need to uh define some of the terms here so i'd also like to clarify at the right time
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oh oh sure okay um so you start with your jerk i don't think we need a definition there
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um i would probably even maybe even accept the label uh so i'll just i'll just go ahead and
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grant that portion of the argument uh when you say present pull it back up so when you say present
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present them as average women what what do you mean by uh present them convey like convey
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understanding about the, the, um, the intelligence of women, the motivations of women, uh, the
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preferences of women. Um, I, I will say that when I sent that message, I had only watched a couple
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of your videos and I think my position has changed a bit because I think I figured out that, um,
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When you ask someone to add 66 and 34, and they say 117, when I first saw that, I thought, if no one knows the answer to this question, then these are less than average women who are less intelligent than average.
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The average woman can add those two numbers together.
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But I'm asking about how you define present them, but present them.
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So perhaps it's the case. And it's actually interesting. I actually never typically make commentary when when the women sometimes I do. But oftentimes if a woman gets one of these questions wrong or even off of the kind of the easy question segment that we do, if, you know, Tina, for example, here, my favorite Chinese spy, it's all love, Tina, all love.
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uh when she says she wants a guy who makes 100 million dollars a year um
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well hold on let me think i want to frame this uh that's not me i you know that's not something
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that by the way tina uh so that we can get views like say something ridiculous that's completely
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organic from her so i'm not like forcing the women to give the answers that they give whether
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it's related to the the sort of easy question segment that we ask towards the end for fun
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or if it's some of the more dating related topics that we get into when you know women
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will say they want a guy who makes this amount of money or who's this tall or you know whatever
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their standards are that perhaps I might deem to be disproportionate to their own standing
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I don't think that that's me presenting them in a bad light I think that that's perhaps
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them exposing their own uh perhaps delusional preferences when it comes to dating or they're
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just presenting things on their own so i don't think you know there's this narrative of i make
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the women look stupid or i make the women look bad in xyz way my argument would be i'm not making
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them do anything i have a platform i have microphones if words come out of their mouth
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I mean, this is unscripted, unscripted content.
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If women say things, that's not me making them look stupid.
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That's if it's your position that makes them look stupid, I actually typically don't label it as such.
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That would be them making themselves look stupid.
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I'm referring to comments that you and other hosts have made such as generalized.
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i'd have to go back and watch the videos and and pull out i don't want to misrepresent but i
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understand you don't want to misquote me but so i'm not looking for i'll be charitable i'm not
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looking for a verbatim uh word for word quote from me just tell me the essence of the essence
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of something I've said. Women want men to pay on the first date, and they're unwilling to
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do their share of the work. And that's the first one that came to mind.
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I'm not going to grant the second part of that. I don't think I typically make that claim, but
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the women wanting men to pay on first dates, yeah, I agree with that, generally speaking.
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Of course, not all women, but yes, generally speaking, women, I'd say the majority of women
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want men to pay for first dates and i would be surprised if that's actually true so you perhaps
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perhaps women on the show women on the show okay because you have data right you you collect real
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data so you would know um but i i would say the average woman across the united states is that
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currently the expectation i don't you would have to run a study and figure that out but i i would
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I don't actually, I reject this idea that in every instance, in order to prove a claim, you need a study.
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I think certain things can be deduced logically, and I think certain things can also just be common sense.
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So I think you can arrive at a conclusion without there being a study.
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So, like, I mean, do you need a study to prove that 2 plus 2 equals 4, or can this be demonstrated logically?
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I don't think there's, I don't think you can demonstrate logically what the current, what women on average in the United States currently expect when it comes to paying for the first date.
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I don't think the same, it's not the same, that logic doesn't apply in the same way.
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So here, tell me what percentage of women you think in the United States want men to pay for first dates.
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across the united states i think it probably also like i grew up in the bay area
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so i think it's quite different in the bay area versus how so um the bay area tends to be
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um the people i know they're probably open door please um prefer that or expect men to pay for
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the first state less often. So I don't want to make the same mistake. You know, I'm going to
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have to even contest you on this geographically. You live in the Bay? Not now. Okay. You've lived
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in like San Francisco or the Bay? Peninsula. Yep. To the viewers, the Bay area is kind of the area
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surrounding San Francisco. It's kind of like the San Francisco metro area, essentially. A big area.
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Well, you know, it's interesting. So your position would be that because San Francisco is like super
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liberal area that the women are probably have a have a more egalitarian approach to dating
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is that your position my position is that that has been my experience among the people that i know
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and and so among the people that i know my wild guess is um 20 expect men to pay
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that in the bay area or across the board in the united states the people that i know so
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my based on conversations I've had with okay but I can do the same thing based on conversations
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I've had not just on the show not just on the show uh because I wouldn't even I'd be willing
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to grant to some degree that the representation of women on the show skews slightly different
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than the average however I think it's more representative than people actually give it
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credit for my contention with the san francisco bay example that you provided uh my understanding
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of the dating scene in san francisco because there's so many tech bros in sf the bay silicon
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valley you have the women actually in that area are the women in the sf bay area
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have such an abundance of options because uh there's more men there's like more men in that
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area than there are women so yeah like you'll basically have uh like top tier tech bros who
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make like four hundred thousand dollars fighting over like average looking asian women no offense
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tina no it's lit like this idea that okay in the in the bay i would argue that in the bay area
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actually you actually despite the women leaning more liberal you actually see these liberal women
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uh because there's so much there's so many men like tech bros in the area whatever
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actually it kind of creates a like the the ratio is off there the ratio is off in the bay
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So the women have way, the women can be pickier in the Bay Area.
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So I actually think it's probably even women desiring a man to pay for the first aid, it's probably higher.
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So that's based on the assumption that when the supply of men is high and the supply of women is low, that women then, like, somehow that affects their expectation that men pay.
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Here, I'm going to, we have someone from China.
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So there's more men in China than there are women, correct?
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So my understanding is that the women have a lot more leverage in China.
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Like when it comes to dating, they can be more picky.
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They can be very demanding because there's more men than there are women in China.
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Now, I think the demographics are changing a bit in China.
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okay so it's still the same still the thing like okay let me ask you who in china
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do women have more leverage when it comes to dating than do men
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okay and this is because it's a it's supply and demand there's there's more men there's less
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women there's fewer if there's fewer women then there's like more competition among the men to
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try to land a woman. The men have to, you know, be more, uh, of a package. And that includes
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paying for dates. That's assuming that women take advantage of this leverage that you say that they
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have. You don't think women take advantage of the leverage that they have? I don't. So wait,
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hold on here. Let me, let me reframe it like this. Okay. So your position is even if there
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is this discrepancy with supply and demand that even if it exists and there is an advantage that
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women can take advantage of which would be having more leverage in the early stages of dating being
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able to call the shots being able to set the standard even if this exists women don't opt
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to take advantage of the advantage that's your position let me think for a minute i i do not
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i can't imagine any of my friends let me ask you a question um of all the men you've dated
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throughout your life and perhaps you can even think about the the female friends you have
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uh who does the approaching men or women both wait wait hold on you in your experience
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and do you think this maps so your experience do you think that that maps on to most women's
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experience probably not on average across the united states i would honestly the class i'm
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really strongly wanting to reject that even in your own experience it's been 50 50 when it comes
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say initiation maybe even more i might you initiate more 70 of the time 80 how many men have you dated
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i don't know 20 how many times over time uh how many different first dates have you been on well
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i think that would make 20 20 well i mean some people might consider dating to mean something
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a bit more long term uh when did you start dating 14 14 did you go to prom no junior prom i didn't
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i didn't finish high school you dropped out of high school okay um when you at 14 who initiated
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that me okay you went in for the first kiss kiss specifically i don't remember but i i initiated
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what does it mean okay hold on now we need to because women will claim that they initiate
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and this is what they mean by initiate you'll look at a guy for one second so i when i'm talking
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about initiate i mean the abundance of the initiative burden is is 80 me okay so you've
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seen straight of the 20 dates you've been on 10 of them were any of them from dating apps
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60 60 from dating ads and you're 39 when did you i had i guess i had married for a long time
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long-term relationship so okay yeah yeah so um hold on you know what what if we did have studies
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though that did actually show and i'll come back to the point i was trying to make but what if there
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were in fact studies that showed that there was an expectation from women that the man should pay
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for the first aid i would want to know why would you why the women want that why this why there is
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this expectation that would be my first question right but would you would you um you must then
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have to i if i were to show you a study would you concede your position and you would be like i was
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wrong actually yes women do want men if it's a reputable study yeah a reputable study okay i'm
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sure we could find one okay maybe team google and it has to be recent it has to be literally sent
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nerd wallet uh 68 of women in the u.s agree then that in heterosexual couples the man should pay
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on the first date men feel this even more strongly uh okay try to find that study and we'll see if
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it's reputable i guess but uh okay so you're saying when you go on the dating apps you send
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the first message yes okay and then you plan the date yeah and then do you pay for the date or do
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you uh go 50 50 50 50 every single time so i think i'm i like answered this more thoroughly
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um it's 50 50 unless someone seems to really want to pay um and they they uh
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are adamant about it then at some point I say okay great thank you and similarly if I see that
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if I believe or have been told that the guy that I'm on a date with doesn't have that much money
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then I'll offer to pay okay that's fine I guess um hold on there was something in your notes here
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that i think might be important but um maybe it's somebody else's actually okay do you have the
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all right surveys show that about 72 to 78 percent of adults believe men should pay for a first date
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Consequently, men end up footing the bill or paying the vast majority of it around 90% of the time.
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And it looks like the source there is the New York Times.
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Like, I guess you click on the article, and then it might be paywalled, though.
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Okay, so, but you think it's wrong for me, even though I just pulled up a study,
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and I think common sense and logic would sort of dictate that this is actually the case,
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you think it's wrong for me to make this sort of generalized claim
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that women want men to pay for first aids?
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I think that was the example that came to mind first.
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So if that statistic is true, then you're right.
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I'm going to come back to some of your disagreements, though.
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um the study says 78 percent adults not just men or women but uh well that was the ai overview but
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yeah i believe the breakdown was that uh 60 wait 68 percent of women agree that uh men should pay
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for first dates but uh i don't think it's it's like region based i think it's probably the united
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States. Yeah, I don't think it's anything to do with where there's more men or more women. I think
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it's a cultural thing. Well, I wasn't making the claim necessarily, but there can be a pressure
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in a region like the Bay Area where, and this is just, this is kind of me spitballing. I'm not
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actually completely sure on the demographics, but I know that like women have a lot of leverage in
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the Bay Area. And then you look at like New York City, for example, men actually have more leverage
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in New York City because you have an abundance of women in New York City and a far smaller
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proportion of eligible, attractive men. Women flock to the cities. Well, not all the cities,
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obviously. In San Francisco, it's not the case. But San Francisco is kind of unique. The Bay Area,
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Silicon Valley is unique because there's such a push. It's a tech industry. And there's way more
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men who are like software engineers who are going to be uh sort of in that environment but these men
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do they not like go to Pattaya and find a woman like the fuck does that Pattaya yeah you know
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these rich white men that like all go to Thailand what is what is okay what does that have to do
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with the conversation at hand though nothing is popped up to my brain when you said take bro I'm
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like thinking like Thailand and Pattaya and I don't know but I don't understand like they're
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obviously going to be paying for the women even there exactly but it's cheaper there i think to
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pay for the woman probably because the income is lower what's that the income there is lower so
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like the expectations are lower i think um perhaps yeah anyways um i think i think it's a u.s thing
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uh in europe we we go 50 50 like i'm not entirely familiar with the expectations
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in uh europe i've heard some of the more scandinavian countries which
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denmark falls under to a degree i suppose no it's scandinavian country yeah well i mean i
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think typical people the the primary two countries people think of when they think scandinavia of
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course they're thinking like uh norway and sweden but of course yes denmark is a scandinavian country
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in addition to finland and maybe ice uh is iceland considered scandinavian wait hold on
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i'm pretty sure it's norway sweden uh denmark finland norway sweden yeah
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so yes these countries the scandinavian countries are very egalitarian um although
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i would think that there's probably how about this there's a higher proportion of scandinavian women
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who have an expectation that men pay for the date
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Right, but, like, I'm pretty sure the population of California
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So I understand that there's other regions and countries,
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especially in europe where there's a bit more of an egalitarian approach as it relates to dating
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however we are in the united states um this and i you know look i haven't i probably don't have
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the expertise as it relates to uh the netherlands switzerland france germany etc
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scandinavian countries i don't know um but i'm sure there are scandinavian women
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perhaps to a smaller degree who do want men to pay for first dates of course
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there is everywhere right but i don't think there's really any country in the world like
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what percentage of men can get away with thinking she's going to pay for the entire date that has
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to be like 0.0001 it's a total anomaly i've done that no so i understand some women will pay for
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dates but men with going in with the same expectation that women some women will go into
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with the expectation that the man pay it's almost non-existent so sure european scandinavian
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countries i'll go ahead and grant it it's more egalitarian but like so what so go to europe
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instead of pataya okay great what about you so i think it depends on what you look at so sorry
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it depends on what you look at like if you were looking at the expectation that they would offer
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to split the bill 50 50 or pay for the full amount, then I would agree with you. I would,
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I would argue in the U S that most women would expect that you would at least offer. Um, I do
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agree though, if you were to go to Europe in my travels that in Europe, it is typically just split
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50 50. They, that is like well-known like Germany area, that type thing. They will typically split
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50 50 dates. Okay. So, I mean, I'm not really interested in getting into a sort of a geographical
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breakdown on this specific thing i'm happy to talk about the united states and uh that's kind
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of obviously like when i'm making claims about dating like frankly i don't give a fuck about
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like the dating the dating prospects in fucking uganda i don't know don't care i'm in the united
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states like if i'm for example i'm making like an economic claim do you think i'm making like
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an economic claim about Eritrea or like, I don't know, some fucking like, just some fucking
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country, no offense, I don't care about. Hold on, they're going to clip that. But like, I mean,
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frankly, no, it's just not relevant to the conversation. Obviously, we're talking about,
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generally speaking, the United States and like some other Western countries.
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So yeah, then I would agree that it would be at least offer 50-50 as the expectation or to pay
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50 50 would be sorry or to pay in full would be the expectation in america i would agree with your
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claim okay that most women would expect that right in fact i mean there's women here who circle men
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on the questionnaire men should pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be
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chivalrous and then i think one of you in your notes said maybe you can just raise your hand i
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haven't remembered um if the guy didn't pay maybe all of you can just answer this if the guy doesn't
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pay for the first date will there be a second date yes yes yes there will who's okay do I have
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to look in my notes who's the person who said if the guy doesn't pay for the second the first date
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there won't be a second who was that so I put in my notes if they don't offer to pay on the first
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date then I wouldn't go on a second one but I need them to at least offer I will always pay for
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myself on the first date though. That doesn't, wait, hold on. That makes zero sense. That was
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you who said that. I said that. Okay. So you write one thing that's important to you is effort
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and consideration on the first date. You believe women should still offer to pay and you will
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always make sure you can cover yourself or choose a simple low cost first date since we're still
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getting to know each other. However, you do appreciate when a man offers to pay and you
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see it as a sign of thoughtfulness and intention. If he doesn't at least offer, you won't pursue
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another date. Yes, exactly. That's a bit backwards a little bit in the sense that
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I hear women say, um, so you're okay if it ends up like the, the final thing ends up being 50,
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50, but you want him to offer to pay the full thing. Cause what I've heard women say is
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the woman does the token, let me get this. And they want the guy to turn them down on the token
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offer to pay. And if the guy takes them up on the token offer, there won't be a second date then.
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This is somewhat novel to me. Yeah. So it's just more of the premise. I want to know that you're
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willing, like you enjoyed the date enough that you're willing to pay for the date. I don't expect
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you to because we're getting to know each other. So the expectation is I don't want you to put
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out yourself financially, but I at least need to know that you're capable of doing it because if
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you can't afford even to go 50-50, go on dates later on, it's just showing that maybe financially
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you can't afford to be dating currently. So I just need to know you're able to financially put up if
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you had to, but I'm not necessarily going to take you up on that. Okay. Clarify this for me. So the
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guy, do you disclose this ahead of time or no? You're just kind of seeing it's like a test. Okay.
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You go to dinner and the guy who is an egalitarian and believes in 50, 50, just as you do, says
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two checks and then he puts down and then he pays for his, and I assume you pay for
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You're telling me there's not going to be a second date because of that.
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No, because I've had past relationships where that's just, I ended up being the provider
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But typically it ends up like you get caught on that later.
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So I would rather you offer and I'll pay 50-50.
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You know, women say men are bad communicators, but like it literally makes no sense.
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So if you can't afford a $2 coffee or to offer.
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You've never been to a dinner first date dinner?
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Because I don't want to be stuck with you at a full dinner.
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if i do a coffee and you don't offer to pay for my two dollar coffee i will not go on a date with
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you again just because i need you to offer to show that you're willing to be in a relationship
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and combine that sure um but okay what about the second date does that persist for the second date
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no that's strictly the first date i just need to know that you're willing to put in that effort
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the the amount is so low it's kind of gets it's almost like a legal principle like de minimis
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it's like so low the two dollars um so it's like look my position is just because what's most
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effective the guy should just pay because it's the most effective strategy um but it's a little
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backward the whole thing's a bit backwards if i i gotta be honest but okay let's get back to
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your disagreements here uh so your disagreements are hold on let me pull it up i didn't finish
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explaining my change in perspective uh okay go ahead um so i realized that a lot of the people
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on the show are models or only fans creators or actresses and so when you answer 117
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to 66 plus 34 like that's smart business and i so i i realized or i um wondered if
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they're giving incorrect answers in some cases in order to to appeal to viewers instead of
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like actually not knowing the answer and if that's sure if that's the case then perhaps
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um the the suggestion that your guests are less intelligent on average that could be wrong
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well it's certainly possible that a woman could come on and like sort of give a flippant
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trolling answer to a question uh so that's certainly a possibility but trust me when we're
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doing the that segment for the show and by the way a lot of the women who uh who answer the question
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questions incorrectly they don't do of they don't they're not just they're random women okay so yes
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some of them are only fans girls by the way the percentage of women who come on the show who do
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OnlyFans, while a little bit higher than typical for today, it's around 15%. So of our total guests
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we've had on, of the women, of all the women who've been on, it's 15% of our guests who do
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OnlyFans. So yes, maybe that's possible. However, we'll have women who completely fumble and get
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these questions wrong. And they're nobody, they have 500 followers, they're college students,
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they or they're older they're you know in their 20s or 30s and they have regular jobs so perhaps
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it could be the case some of these women come on and troll the answers or whatever but if you watch
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the live shows and my audience can confirm a lot of these women just completely have no idea
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and they're not doing it intentionally and they just don't know i just don't think that's
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representative of the average u.s woman it might not be but i'm more interested truthfully in uh
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You know what, though? I actually don't. You know what? You know what? I'm not going to cede that point. I actually do think that the United States does have some issues with its education system.
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And I think you look at the typical average adult, and I hate to say this about my fellow countrymen, I think many of them are woefully, I don't want to be too insulting, perhaps woefully uninformed about certain very basic things such as geography, very basic geography questions, basic math questions, basic, I mean, a lot of this shit's just geography related.
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Truthfully, I think you could go on the street, ask the exact same question.
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So it's not like, well, Brian, this is a disparate, you know, the people who opt to go on the show, it's not representative.
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I think, and you know what, maybe there's studies like what, what is the percent, what is the amount of people who are illiterate?
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What, what, what's the amount of people who, I mean, illiterate is a very high.
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I'm not making the claim that the women who come on my show are literate, I assume.
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But I think, you know, if you do go to the typical person in the street, I think, yes, a lot of them will get caught up on some of these very basic questions.
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For example, one of the questions we ask, what are the three branches of the of the United States government?
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I honestly think 50 percent of United States citizens could not name all three branches.
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But I do think if you go out into the street and you're just approaching random people, I think maybe 50% of people won't be able to name them.
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And look, I think a lot of people are not really all that interested in politics, though.
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I don't think that that's an indictment of them necessarily.
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And it's not necessarily an indictment of their intelligence.
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So you should have some men on the show and ask them the same questions, kind of to give a full picture.
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you know i do think actually men perhaps more so than women might fare better with some of these
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questions yeah well i think men have a greater interest in some of these topics so for example
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um do you think men have a in general okay in general do you think men are more interested in
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history as a topic i have no idea what about war history world war one world war two
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probably right like i think i could go up to the an average man on the street
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average woman on the street i could ask the man name me an airplane from world war two
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and they'd be like they'd give me fucking three sure not all of them right i i would place maybe
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a million dollars that i could maybe go up to a hundred women in a row i don't think one of them
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could name me an airplane from world war ii and hey i might lose the mill but if i had a place a
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mill i'd probably i'd probably err on the side of a woman not being able to name an airplane okay
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and you might say well who gives a fuck about airplanes from world war ii well i could just
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ask you the date ranges when was world war one don't even give me don't even give me the years
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just the decade a lot of women get it wrong world war ii what's the primary decade a lot of women
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get it wrong who were the belligerents in world war ii what's the difference between access and
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allies all the women currently have their eyes glazed over they don't know and you think men
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would know why don't you tell me tell me three access powers i don't know tell me three allied
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powers i can well hold on i history is definitely not my strong suit i don't know but i mean you
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have to understand world war ii uh which was i i consider it recent you know i'm this isn't the
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napoleonic wars this isn't get the genghis khan's conquest into you know the asian continent and to
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even parts of Europe. This is a war that, you know, it's in the past century. It is the most,
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World War II is the most documented event in all of human history. And I'm asking you
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what I think is a very basic question. I'm not asking you to tell me, what was the Sudetenland?
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I'm not asking you to tell me, you know, what was the, you know, what was the year that Hitler went into Austria and the Czech, well, I guess it wasn't called Czech Republic at the time, was it?
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I'm asking you for the three primary belligerents on the access side.
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I didn't finish high school, so I didn't have probably the class that covered these things.
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Well, you have to understand, though, you're 39, right?
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We have libraries, but we also have the Internet.
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So I don't think your education needs to start and stop in school, in academia,
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because school is just for somebody else to read to you.
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The term belligerence is not one I've come across.
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okay who were the nations who were the countries in the uh access it's not a term i've come across
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i don't know access and allies does anyone else know well yeah i'm sure maybe some of the girls
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here know but here raise your hand if you know the difference between access and allies
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are you for real just one one she knows maybe that's it access and allies this isn't like some
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some crazy world war ii like hmm okay uh what's the maginot line like this isn't some like really
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small piece of trivia this is just like what were the countries involved in world war ii
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like it's very basic information so and look i think women perhaps this isn't necessarily
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meant to cast women and to indict women necessarily i think women have less interest
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in history than men do uh women are more interested in the kardashians no offense
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um i bet you guys could all name three kardashians but name me name me three of the major nations
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on the allied side name me three of the major nations on the access side can you name me one
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on access i so i don't know what that term refers to allies just guess germany congratulations
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congratulations so I mean I could frame it the bad guys and the good guys you know I think it's
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a bit more nuanced than that but in any case um I'm kind of getting off track here um do you want
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to continue on with your point you're clarifying about something I don't know are you asking about
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I think I made my point okay so continuing on with your criticism um you say that uh hold on
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you present women uh in this way you attempt to distort viewers perceptions
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so we're still doing definitions here what do you mean by attempt to distort viewers perceptions
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so i'm glad you gave another example here because that makes it easier to reference
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you said that women take advantage of the leverage that they have oh and i
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I think that's a generalization that, um, may not be true. Uh, okay. And that, that's a distortion
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that that's your opinion. Well, that, so I'm happy to engage with you on that, but that's a claim I
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just raised here on the podcast. You wrote this prior to the podcast. I'm kind of interested in
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exploring what made you come to the conclusion when you originally wrote this, but I guess I'll
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statements like, I do want to actually revisit that because that's a good point. So, um, do you
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think white people have privilege? Yes. Do you think, do you think men have privilege? And
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privilege doesn't, doesn't suggest like intention. Like that's not saying that I think I'm better
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necessarily, but I think if you were a white person in the United States, in a lot of cases,
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it's easier to get by than if you're a black person. Okay. I'll engage you there a bit later.
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do you think men have privilege? I think it's very context specific. So it depends on what
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we're talking about. Uh, well in totality, in dating, in totality, in dating, no. Um, it's
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really hard. It's really hard to, it's really hard to average, like do men have privilege in
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dating versus at work versus, um, so how do you average those things? Well, I think it could just
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be, you can look at it in totality. I'd say 60% of the time men have some sort of privilege that
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they may not even want, and 40% of the time not necessarily. Well, how about this? As compared,
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men, as compared to women, are men on average more privileged than women in totality?
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I think you're asking the same question in a different way. Well, a little bit,
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or I made the claim that women have some advantages
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women have leverage when it comes to dating,
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and i think that they use that leverage when it comes to dating yeah you reject that you think
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despite women the existence of the leverage women don't use said leverage i reject that
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for the average woman um i don't think average woman okay i think sure some do so let's get some
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don't and i know some of you want to jump in but i do need to finish this this back and forth with
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her. Um, okay. So do you think on average, do you, do you think it's 50, 50 who approaches who?
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No, I think probably men approach women 70% of the time. I would say it's far higher. I think
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you compare an average man, you compare an average woman, that average woman is inundated,
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flooded with options perhaps some of them are not to her liking but still flooded with options
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the average man has in terms of like romantic pursuit and interest and initiative directed
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towards him the same way that romantic pursuit and initiative is directed towards women for the
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average man it's basically zero the average man does not get women sliding into their dms the
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average man does not have access to hookup culture. The average man does not have women throwing
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themselves at him. The average man has to be the pursuer. He has to show interest. You put the
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average woman who sits back. So here's my perspective. For most women, here's the leverage
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that I'm talking about. Women can sit back and be passive when it comes to dating. They don't
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have to, and they aren't always. But for the majority of women, you sit back and you pick
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amongst the men that come to you. You don't go to the club in the same way that a pickup artist
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goes to the club and approaches 20 women in a row. Rejection, rejection, rejection, rejection.
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Got her. You women don't do that. You go to the club and men come up to you. Reject, reject,
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reject he's hot like him reject reject reject right you put yourself in a position to be
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approached now look in some rare instances women shoot their shot here and there however the
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majority of the time women are not shooting their shot like that it's men when it comes to dms men
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slide into the dms when it comes to dating apps men are make are taking the very multiple steps
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of initiative from matching to sending the first message to carrying the conversation to trying to
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set up the date to rescheduling when 50% of the time invariably she flakes. Rescheduling that,
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navigating her flakiness. Okay, let's reschedule. Paying for the date. Having the conversational
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burden placed on him. So men are, and then, okay, making the first move. Want to go back to my
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place? Navigating the rejection. If it is a rejection. Oh, she's down. Okay, boom. Navigating
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the first kiss. Navigating the closing of physical distance. Navigating moving things forward
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sexually. That's entirely men. Like if men did not take that initiative, like if we men did what y'all
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women did, we'd be virgins. We would never get, we would never date. We'd just die virgins. Most,
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now look, I understand sometimes, maybe even for each of you, you'll shoot your shot here and there,
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probably still rare. We've had women come on the show. And I think this is more true of the average
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than not. We've had women come on the show who say, I've never approached a man. I've never
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asked a guy out. And they've, they've had hookups. They've been in relationships. They've been on
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dates, dozens, if not hundreds of dates. They never once asked for a date. They never once
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approached. If a man had that same approach, he would be a virgin. You put a woman in a man's body
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and she moved the same way. She would be a virgin, or I guess he would be a virgin.
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So yeah, women definitely take advantage of that leverage.
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so you and i were supposed to go rock climbing who initiated that bro whoa wait hold on hold on
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so you reached out set calling me a jerk and just to be clear this wasn't like a romantic
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overture from you no but it was a friendly it was a friendly i want to make that clear by the way and
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i mean okay so i don't see how that's relevant it was a it was a platonic overture that you made
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I was feeling ill yesterday so I was like hey I'm not going to do it but I don't see how that's
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relevant if you it's putting initiative taking the initiative in a relationship whether it's
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a friendship whether it's a we're talking about romantic I think for for me it it doesn't make a
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difference if I want to do something if I want to see if someone wants to go on a date with me
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I take the initiative okay but do you are you solipsistic does the universe revolve around you
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are you the sun so it's a big word yeah so your experiences you do you realize there are anomalies
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and outliers and that's why i i'm trying really to be careful about differentiating myself from
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average i i think i agree with your point on average men do most of the initiation my guess
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is 70 it's way higher okay right okay so i said a guess yeah it's way higher okay yeah but i i
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want to get back to uh what what was your intermediary claim there we just talked about
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no well i'm trying to your framing was intriguing to me it was uh you contested that women don't
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take advantage of their leverage in dating if the leverage exists um because there are a lot of tech
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ladies too um if the leverage exists i don't i have a hard time i i hope it's not true that women
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i don't mean to interrupt you leverage wasn't the word um i'm trying to think what it was
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maybe somebody in the chat can point it out to me
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um okay taking advantage leverage was leverage the word i think so
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i'm trying to remember the original context but because i think clarity here would be helpful
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I think essentially though, um, I'm trying to remember the original framing here.
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I think it was women can, you had said, you think women expect more because they have
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leverage and they choose to take advantage of that.
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I think it's stemmed from in the Bay area because there's more men in that area.
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women have a bit more, I guess, leverage to dictate terms, having higher expectations,
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men should pay. So in this, but your position was they don't. Okay. But my position is, well,
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actually pretty much because of women's passivity when it comes to dating. Yeah. They're taking
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advantage of their position as women, which is to be more passive, which means there's no rejection
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burden on women and there's no initiative burden on women generally speaking is that leverage
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leverage is different leverage is like how can i to what we're talking how can i take advantage of
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this person no not necessarily not necessarily but if we're if we're talking about like equality
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or an egalitarianism then women do exist in a sort of leveraged privileged position where
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they can just let men come to them they don't have to they sit back they don't have to deal
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with rejection the way men do they don't have to take on the initiative burden that the way men do
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they don't have to financially be there in the same way that men do now nothing is stopping
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women there isn't some so you know there's nothing stopping women from i suppose being more like you
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where I think your claim is still dubious, but you make, you claim you take initiative more,
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you claim you're the one who's a bit more, you know, asking for dates and doing this.
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Nothing is stopping women, but women can exist in this sort of laid back position of passivity
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where men can come to them. So it's like, why a lot of women's framing would be,
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why would I bother shooting my shot when all these men are already coming up to me?
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Like for example, I'll give you my own experience. So for most of my life, I would shoot my shot
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almost 99% of the time. Dating apps in person. I was dating before there were dating apps. So you
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had to go up to the girl, approach her, whether at a party or when I was in college, if I saw a
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cute girl, Hey, what's up? Thought you were cute. Let's grab some food, you know, whatever it is.
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right? And, uh, where am I going with this? I think, uh, I totally blanked on this actually.
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Um, somebody want to kickstart, kickstart me. Where was I going with this? Um, you making
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the approach. Yeah. You brought out most of the girls and stuff. Oh, oh yeah. Yeah. I remember.
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Okay. So ever since I started the podcast, um, I've had the experience of, and I still shoot
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my shot here and there, whatever. Almost all the women I've dated for since like 2023, they've all
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reached out to me. And I definitely feel like I have way more leverage in that position with them
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coming to me. Do you use that leverage? Oh, absolutely. Fucking do you really? Yeah. But
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it's not like, it's not some like fucked up thing. It's just like, okay. Like for example,
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I, and you guys might think this is crazy. If a woman slides into my DMs,
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There's like 10 other women in my DMs right now
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You're not the one you're not submissive goodbye
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Like the first thing is she gives me pushback on the NDA
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Gives me pushback on the girlfriend application.
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So, yes, I can, like, literally fucking bullet point, like, okay, here's all the things that are important to me.
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Now, keep in mind, I date very intentionally.
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I'm not just trying to fuck a girl once, use her for pussy.
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This is the woman who I want to be with for the rest of my life.
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I'm not just trying to mess with a girl just to fuck her for a couple months or, you know, for a week or just a one night stand.
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I've always been long term girlfriend oriented.
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But if I have fucking 10 girls DMing me every month or sorry, not month, every week, I can't be spending hours with the organic back and forth.
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And that's you might be like, whoa, that's super fucking cringe and autistic, Brian.
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To me, that doesn't sound like taking advantage of leverage that you might have.
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So I think there's, it's a loaded, the word taking advantage of, like it has a negative connotation.
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I guess I'm exploiting, not the women, I'm exploiting my position that I'm in.
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Now, exploit has a very negative connotation too.
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In fact, it has a worse connotation than taking advantage of.
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but to take advantage of a situation not the person of course i whoever i'm going to date i
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want to treat her wonderful wonderfully uh but taking advantage of the situation that i find
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myself in which is i don't really have to be on date i'm not on dating apps i don't really i'll
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shoot my shot here and there if a girl catches my eye but like i'm just sourcing from the women who
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come to me and because of that dynamic in the same way when men come to you you women have the power
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typically in that instance now if the guy's like major deal and he comes to you he's going to have
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a bit more leverage in that in that instance but women can kind of uh dictate the terms a little
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bit when it's when it's the guy coming to you but when it's the girl coming to me like i couldn't go
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on a dating app and be like sign this shit here's a fucking girlfriend application i might you know
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a few women might bite on that but most women would be like i have like 10 guys who want to
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take me on a date this week like get the fuck out of here like it's not going to fly but of the
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women who come to me i have i can again maybe i should reframe the language here because
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take advantage of seems like exploitative i have the leverage though in that position
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you want to be with me here's how it's going to be i'm going to lead it in this way to me that
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just seems logical and not like you're using some leverage that you have. And, and I, so going back
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to the, the original point, um, you said that, uh, women have more leverage and so they can expect
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men to pay more often, right? That's, that's what the original point was. I just don't see people
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working that way. Well, I mean, the idea here is, so there are women who, uh, who basically are
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going to say and and if it and if this sentiment is propagated either through social media or by
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the way this is actually just like prior to social media you you would acknowledge that it was the
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traditional move for men to pay for first dates now this is slowly changing a little bit but i
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also see it kind of like going it's changing but also like women are getting more extreme
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with it too like women are getting like very cutthroat about their expectations that men
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pay for first dates in a way that wasn't as extreme as it used to be now women are like
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sprinkle sprinkle or whatever the fuck that thing i forgot what it's sparkle spark i don't know what
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the fuck. So hold on. Let me see if there's anything here. Um, yeah, I definitely do think
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women can have a strong expectation that men pay for first dates. And I think that's the general
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sentiment in the dating landscape right now. Can I ask you a question? So do you think you're in
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like the same position as like the average woman, like with the way that like women approach you
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and stuff like that i love that question that's a good question no um now i think my my value
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proposition to a woman who wants to date me is higher than comparatively is higher than the
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average woman but like and there it's a bit different but i'd frame it like this an average
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woman has the sexual optionality not romantic optionality but sexual optionality of a male
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celebrity so an average looking woman if she wanted to could fuck six men in a day every single
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day get on tinder we've and not just average below average looking women toward a barbie over here if
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you wanted to you could fuck six dudes in a day no offense and you're a torta so so it's like even
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below average women have massive amounts of sexual optionality that the average man doesn't even
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approach. In order for a man to have the same sexual optionality as any single woman here at
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the table, some of you are above average looking, some of you are average, some of you are below
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average looking. The guy literally has to be Drake. The guy has to be a professional NFL player.
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The guy has to be a rock star. The guy has to be an A-list movie celebrity. And even then,
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I think some of these guys might struggle to literally line up six new women. It's just
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different so um in some ways i guess yes but also like it cannot be understated the level of
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just insane option now just to be clear women are not opt most women are not opting to fuck
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six men a day but if you wanted to you could me or like literally you could take like a stud
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at like a college university like really good looking guy that guy's gonna he can get laid
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pretty well right he's not fucking six new women every single day like that's it takes a little
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bit of uh a little bit to get sex from women you know it's sometimes it can be uh for those stud
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guys you know they can they can do decently but whereas like you could be below average looking
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as a woman and just fuck like crazy you could fuck again six we had a woman on the show who
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was below average looking and she she was a sex addict chubby chubby below average face i'm not
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trying to be mean but it is i'm just speaking facts she said when she was a sex addict she
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would have guys from tinder she would have six guys come over a day per day and she would do
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this for like weeks at a time so she'd fuck like 20 30 dudes in a week something like that
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and so to answer your question um for the guy from a sexual perspective for a guy to get on
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the average woman's level he has to be like top tier nfl player top tier athlete
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top tier musician top tier actor something like this uh to get the same level of sexual optionality
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that a below average looking woman does okay i have a follow-up question so with that being said
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like you're saying like you know even the average woman like sure compared to like someone with like
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your position or whatever you're in you know um so let's say like you send out your 100 date list
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100 question list what's the difference between you sending that out and a woman expecting like
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a man to pay on the first date because you know you're saying that like you get what I mean
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well I I'm not sure I fully understand the question I would say that it's sort of a mirror
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to some degree it's it's exemplary of what I'm trying to articulate here so is that women have
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the power at least initially when it comes to dating women can kind of set the tone women can
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have more of the leverage initially when it comes to dating okay okay so you wouldn't care if like
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let's say like a woman with the same status as you sent you like a hundred questions like what
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what do you mean like would you care like you personally care if a woman sent you a hundred
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question like and questionnaire to fill it out is she sliding into my dms
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maybe let's say you slide into her dms like same situation here and there but i don't really slide
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into dms like that but okay sure what about it oh like would you care like do you care like
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because you expect women to like fill that out when they approach you and stuff like
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yeah and so i'm just saying would you care if a woman did the same exact thing to you so okay so
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essentially i really want this woman yeah and this is like a condition of trying to get her
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yeah like i'm just saying in general and like if i fill it out and i match her like i it's the
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answers are good i'm just like yeah i'll meet you oh okay so i slide into i'm trying to think of
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like some girl who's hot right now i don't know i don't know i can't i slide into her dms and
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she's like fill this questionnaire out and like the assumption here is if i fill it out and it's
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satisfactory to her well this i think there's some differences between men and women here where
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it's a short answer yes however there are some differences insofar as
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i think the ideal relationship dynamic is one where the man again though if i'm sliding in her
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into her dm she does have the leverage the ideal relationship dynamic is one where the woman likes
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the man more than the the man likes the wait hold on where the woman likes the man more than the man
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likes the woman and i think women have an it's kind of different like women are kind of grossed
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out by the guys that are too on to them like i don't think women like that shit i could say
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initially at first that definitely gives girls an ick but i think as you more develop a relationship
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women actually really do appreciate yeah but i feel like the difference is men all men want the
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woman to be simps women don't respect male simps y'all don't respect the sim off the bat yeah i
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agree so if it was perfect like if it was the mirror situation like if her thought if that
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woman's thought process was the same as mine, then yeah, I would fill it out. But practically
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speaking, I don't think like, I think the, it's a weird dynamic. Like she's the, the man has to
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be the prize. Now I think that's not the case in most dynamics, but if like, I don't know,
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women don't really give respect to men who are simping on them like that i don't know
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okay go ahead there's nothing more attractive than a man that's like obsessed with you tilt
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tilt your microphone down a little bit okay well i mean you're pandering because you do only fans
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i love men that are obsessed with me that has nothing to do with only fans um okay
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anyways i had a comment about the leverage of dating the what the leverage that women has
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okay on dating sure yeah i think it comes from nature if you look at old animals the male animals
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are chasing the female animals and they're fighting over the female animal i don't think
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it's a society thing i think it's in our biology that the man is chasing the woman yeah we are
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humans have a greater intellectual uh humans have a greater intellectual capacity and potential
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than do animals we're still animals in the end of today we are not beholden to our base
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instincts and we are not beholden to base primal drives obviously like you do realize like animals
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engage in like non-consensual sex, which we've like made illegal, um, animals engage in like
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cannibalism, which I suppose some humans do that, but like, we've clearly determined that that's
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morally wrong. So I reject this appeal to nature. Um, and then, I mean, you could, you could say
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like, okay, certain female spiders devour, uh, devour the male spider after the, they fuck or
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whatever so it's like what specific animal can we appeal to i mean arguably you know what maybe
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this is misogynistic perhaps it is the case that when women procreate with men they start to devour
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their own husbands in some way that's a rather i don't know if we're going to dive into that
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philosophical dilemma today but there is a devour i do believe related to spiders there is a devouring
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nature to women which cannot be understated can you explain that i want to know more about that
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like what do you mean by like well i think it i think start things start to change like
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if you're just dating a chick uh women can definitely change once they have kids
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and once you're married to them and there's a devouring nature to some women once they are
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married and once you do have children with them and then it's less about love not in all instances
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but some of these dynamics these relationships can change to uh it's not so much about love
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and it's more the man is going to be much more strongly placed in a provider lens
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you think that's because there's a child involved and like the woman needs the man to step up
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sure there's practical applications to this but um and again this is like just a passing thought
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that just occurred to me because she referenced nature but um yeah i think a lot of men do see
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women change a little bit uh once they're married and once uh they have kids and when a woman has
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kids uh with a man not all women but a lot of women get very brutal financially with men we see
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this in um men are like when men and women split up in divorces and you compare like say the woman's
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the breadwinner versus the man's the breadwinner men are much more even if the woman makes more
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money and they would be entitled to alimony and like exorbitant child support or whatever
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men are more likely than women to be like you know what let's just go our own ways and not shake
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men are again some women will shake women down men are less likely to shake a woman down for
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money than the reverse their men are much more likely to want to clean their hands of it you
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know what didn't work out you go your way i go my way oh you made more money than me whatever
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don't care i'm not going to go for alimony or maybe you give me a little bit but i'm not going
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to be some fucking like, uh, really hardcore with what's owed to me. Women on the other hand,
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not all women, some women, nah, he doesn't have to pay child support. Nah, I'm not going to be
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a dick to him. Women are much more likely to be devouring of men financially in divorce and child
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support. I would say I agree to that. I would agree. Not all women to be clear. Some women are
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going to be reasonable some women will let men off the hook completely but women are much more
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likely to be very um and perhaps you might even argue that this is women i would say it's probably
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women who make like i would say women who make more aren't typically like that or like the same
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amount but women who like make less and have that expectation of them being like the breadwinner
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or whatever i think like for sure like even i could say like and my parents or whatever like
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my parents they went bankrupt or whatever because my mom was trying to go after all my dad's money
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so i totally agree you know we see a lot in divorce we see a lot in child support um
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and uh look not all women do this but there's a higher proportion so anyways um kind of off
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topic there someone else was raising their hand i don't yeah it's it's like a mute point but it was
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more so on the premise of like i think a lot of women do that commonly because it was more
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traditional households of the family where they stayed home and they put their careers kind of on
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the back burner and therefore they wouldn't be as far along or making as much money as the man would
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be so i would agree yes a lot of women would chase for that but it's typically because they're put
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further back because of traditional values that are still kind of lingering from like our earlier
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generations well yeah this the original idea of alimony was from a traditional lens the man's
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going to be the breadwinner the man's going to go out and get a job and advance himself
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professionally maybe pursue an education the woman's going to stay home uh she's going to
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basically forsake career and education not work at all or work very little and then stay home
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raise the children and have kids. However, the actual laws, so for example, say I make
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seven figures a year. Say I make a million dollars plus a year, and I date a woman who
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makes $100,000 a year, and we're married for 10 years, and we never have kids, and she continues
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her career. Legally speaking, the court doesn't care about the fact that she continued her career
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and she made zero sacrifices we have no kids I'm still going to be on the hook for alimony
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and I understand that perhaps this is a bit less proportionate of what you typically see in
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marriage but the laws as they currently are do not factor in for these more modern types of
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dynamics and relationships where yeah women do stay home and they do have kids but I mean are
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there are their job prospects really that gigafucked or what about like if I date a 25 year old
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hairdresser she's already done her hairdressing school like say i'm not in the picture and she's
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a hairdresser and we can prove that she was just going to be a hairdresser for her entire life
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and she was never going to do anything else okay maybe she could have had extra clients and
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her prices would have raised up a little bit
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why why and like she say she dates some i don't know nba player who's making 10 million dollars a
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year. Why the fuck does she get half? Why? She was just going to be, she was just going to be
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a hairdresser. She was not going to go make $10 million a year herself. Why should she get his
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money? I think it like goes both ways because if you're looking at the more modern couples,
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a lot of times females, let's just say through content creation, for example,
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I know a lot of friends that are separating. So the man is not heavily involved in that business,
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nor was he ever but he's attempting to take half of what she has so do you think are you just saying
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neutrally that he shouldn't be able to take half and she shouldn't be able to take half it's just
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whatever you came in you leave with yeah so then i agree with you yeah so i mean obviously there
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are women who out earn uh their husbands who the the laws are not gendered in that well okay if
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you're a woman who makes a bunch of money the man doesn't get alimony that's not true the laws are
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gender neutral. Now there is some bias in the court system where, where the men, there's a bit
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more bias a little bit. And additionally, the thing I mentioned earlier, where, where men are
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more likely to be a bit more reasonable in their either, Hey, we're going to wash our hands clean
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of this, go along your way. I'll take care of myself. Women will feel a bit more entitled to
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the man's money in these instances, generally speaking. But yes, women can pay men alimony.
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They do. But statistically speaking, I think it's like 97% of alimony payments go from men
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to women. 94% of child support payments go from men to women. So yes, while women can legally
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be on the hook for alimony and child support, this is greatly disproportionately impacts men.
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I just think it's, like, demographic matters when you talk about, like, the statistics of that.
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I mean, I say men because it's, like, 97% of alimony payments are paid by men.
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Yes, there are some women who pay alimony payments, but it's the anomaly.
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Back to you, and then we're going to get into the relationship status.
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Uh, just the thing, it's the final part. You also say it does a disservice to humanity. Pull it up.
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Uh, disservice to humanity. Okay. What can you articulate? Why, what do you mean by disservice
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to humanity? So I, I think there is misrepresentation, whether it's intentional or,
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or not um i think both happens and that the world is not better off by having this
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okay what well you already conceded on the first date thing so that is an accurate view of women
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that on average the majority one it's not the majority of women do want men to pay for first
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dates you conceded on that point correct the majority of women want men to pay for first
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figured out it was like 68 right and well hold on in in the study yeah yes but i would say i mean
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i don't actually know the number of like in practice how many men pay for dates i actually
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know in the study it did say it was higher didn't it like when they actually end up paying for the
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date but it's or 90 but it's the expectation of i okay well in any case so when i say majority i
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mean 51 or higher so you're going to have to concede that it is a majority of women sure yeah
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okay so what is the misrepresentation besides that so this is one example right okay give me
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other examples well the the leverage comment um that women take the women use the leverage that
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they have to obtain something that they otherwise wouldn't have access to hold on did it make that
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the second part of that claim when i'm talking about leverage it's simply that yes when
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the the leverage in question was men paying for first dates that's what stemmed the
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leverage comment okay okay so who should who should pay for first dates i think each person's
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different i've i've heard some opinions here that are do you think whoever asks for the date should
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pay for the date um if it's if what you're saying is true that men initiate most of the time then
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know because they would end up paying most of the time but they do so then men do initiate
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the vast majority of the time men do in fact pay the vast majority of the time
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so with that with that women women having leverage because if if here's the leverage
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that's being created women could collectively just be like you know what the initiative burden
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we're going to 50 50 that so for every time i get approached i have to approach for every time a man
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dms me i have to dm a man i don't know how you would actually fucking implement this but this
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is hypothetical that would shrink the initiative burden but women don't do that because women
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operate from a privileged position of being able to like if let me paint it like this let's say
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women if we switch the roles and women wanted to use us for our body and wanted to pay for dates
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and trips and spend money on us and get us flowers and get us gifts do you think men would reject
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like be like nah bitch we're good like we're gonna you know what women fuck that shit we're
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going to keep just getting brutally rejected woman after woman we don't want to switch positions
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men will switch positions with you on this instantly oh hot uh well not not all the men
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who approach you are hot some of them are you probably are grossed out by but oh maybe 10 i
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don't know what the percentage is whatever oh men everywhere want to buy me drinks and have
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sex with me oh my god men will take the trade we'll take the trade so i i don't think that
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the person person who takes initiative um should be expected to pay i think some people
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that's operate from that position okay but you're a woman so you could you could initiate
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and you do realize we establish that women do have an expectation that men pay for first aids
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It might be higher than that, but, uh, you know what?
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So on two thirds of dates that I go on, am I supposed to roll the dice and hope that
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it's the one third of women who's going to be cool with 50, 50, and then I don't pay
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for the other two thirds of date where the women does have this expectation.
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and then she's like oh he doesn't is he not interested uh he's not a provider uh i don't
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want to go on a second date with him am i supposed to navigate that or is the move
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just pay across the board so i don't fumble with two out of three women
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i think if i had this this issue i i would think through it and maybe i talk to the person in
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advance and say hey yeah just yeah sorry continue continue um would you like to go please to dinner
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um and how how should we pay for it like do you want to split it or yeah i i don't i live in
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florida yeah where do you live florida florida miami how close are you guys to my i'm in for
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lauderdale so yeah miami both of you wrote i can hold on hold on hold on both oh actually not you
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um well never mind i was gonna make an insensitive joke do you think most women in miami
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women don't pay for shit in miami do women pay for things in miami no no now i understand that
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this is a unique geographical region for you guys though for the women here at the table who do want
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men to pay for first dates say the date is scheduled say it's a thursday night and the
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date is scheduled for friday and you other you you know i mean you're going on the date to see
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if you like the guy but he's attractive and it seems like it could be a match but you know
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obviously you go on the date to see if there is a connection the date is scheduled for friday
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thursday night he texts you and he's like hey sweet sweetie no hold on that's cringe
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I actually think most women are going to be like
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If the guys are like let's have a conversation about it
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but i literally asked it in like the most milquetoast way possible i think that would
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be a strange way to ask but it could be hey hey um are you cool going 50 50 how would that be
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strange like that's how you want it why would you wait until thursday night to ask like when you
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set up the date okay that is completely immaterial when it is asked is secondary okay cool
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whenever it is oh my god you're honestly oh my god
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fine it is asked in the precise the down to the second it is asked at the most convenient time for
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the woman okay okay now answer the question so you would have to i think that that question would
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not go well um but you could ask well you just literally prescriptively were like hey maybe the
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man can have a conversation with a woman ahead of time the way that you worded it i think would
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not sit well worded in the most best light possible okay how was the wait so you're saying
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hey you should have a conversation with a woman beforehand and i'm and my suggestion is uh hey
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tiffany hey becky uh hey gertrude hey whatever the fuck uh hey um just wanted to check in with
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you looking forward to seeing you uh tomorrow or in four days or in fucking three months or
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whatever the fuck you're trying to talk about hey just wanted to check in um looking forward
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to going on a date with you um where do you where do you stand like can we go 50 50 what do you
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think about that just checking in you know i know everyone's different some people split the bill
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some people do this i just wanted to make sure um that we're on the same page about that how
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how do you think we should handle splitting the bill okay if this was so this is okay this is not
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an issue i've dealt with so i i have not had to think through how i would handle it i but again
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i i split the bill 50 50 um but i so it's news to me that this is uh like this is it's insightful
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It's, it's, it's sad that men have this issue where they're rejected a lot.
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And, you know, I think we should be talking about this and that's great.
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Well, I mean, look, people can, uh, rejection is going to be a reality of life.
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Um, but I, I don't really see the objection to my framing, which was just like, Hey, Becky,
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uh, are you fine if we go 50, 50, that's actually more direct getting to the point of what you're
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suggesting because your question leaves things open-ended how what honestly though even with
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your very like your framing a lot of women are gonna know what's being hinted at so a woman who
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wants the man to pay for the first date she's gonna be like wait hold on why is this even a
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conversation like we're going on a date you're paying for it she's not even saying that that's
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probably what she's thinking she's like oh this guy wants to go 50 50 she's probably gonna just
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cancel it right there and that's where you get to decide what who do you want to date do you want
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to date someone who is willing to split the bill or not okay but that okay fine people can be
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discerning that doesn't change the fact that 60 according to the study 68 percent of women more
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than two-thirds of women want men to pay for first dates okay and if you roll the dice and even ask
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if she's okay with it there i think there's a very high chance that she's gonna be like
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oh this guy's asking like this guy he's not masculine he's not what i'm looking for no
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so i wouldn't think that and i think okay well you're a hippie liberal who's kumbaya and but
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modern dating doesn't work like that modern dating is cutthroat women want what they want
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men want what they want and look there's outliers and there's people who operate in different ways
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but i i'm i'm speaking in general here you're saying you said i'm doing a disservice to
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humanity it is true that the majority of women want men to pay for first date 32 percent do not
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expect men to pay for the first date and so maybe you just need to find someone who's in that 32
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percent if you have an issue with it and look i i don't really care um i'm fine paying for
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the first dates whoever i'm going to be with i'm a high earner she doesn't have to work at all so i
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reject your egalitarian approach to dating. That's not what I want. Whoever I'm going to be with,
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everything's going to be taken care of. But what I am saying, if we're going to have a bird's eye
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view, if we're going to look at the chessboard of dating, we're going to look at it and have
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conversations about the anthropological, sociological happenings of the modern dating
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hellscape, this is true, what I'm talking about here. And I think if we did things like this more
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often the men who have an issue with it or the people who have an issue with it but it's not a
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disservice to humanity to point out that generally speaking the majority of women two-thirds of women
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want men to pay for first dates that comment was much more broad it was not about this give me
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another example well i did with the leverage thing that's like fresh in my mind it's the same thing
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I literally just addressed the leverage thing. The leverage thing is interlinked. It's interlinked
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to the paying for first dates thing because women don't approach men at comparable rates.
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Women don't initiate at comparable rates. So if there's an expectation, if there's a narrative
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of whoever asks should pay, if women have the benefit and privilege of being able to sit back
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and just basically source all of their dating prospects from the men who come to them,
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there's no burden on, like, for women to date, women don't have to.
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i'm just gonna go to the club and i'm gonna just stand here and multiple women tonight are gonna
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want to fuck me enthusiastically never happened in the fucking history of nightclubs anywhere for
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a man who's into like the bottom 90 percent of men it never happened you could have a fat torta
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in the club and she's getting multiple dick invitations multiple dick invitations excuse me
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some fucking mexican in a cowboy hat uh barely speaks english uh excuse me i can't even speak
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fucking spanish how do you say dick in spanish i don't know pito pito excuse me want some pito
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and she's i've never not even where's the fucking foreign women where's no mexican women coming up
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to me who fucking illegal immigrants and shit excuse uh do you want some pussy sir she's got
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a fucking sombrero on or some shit she's giving she wants to give me a taco it's crazy i don't
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know sorry that was say some to you i so i think with the leverage thing basically what he means
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is like let's say you go on a date and a man offers to pay and you say yes that's leverage
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like that's like all he's trying to say i feel like with the leverage that's what i was gonna
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tell her as i was gonna say so if he offers are you're like no i'm gonna pay 50 do you
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automatically say that to them yes okay cool um i do want to move it on just for the sake of time
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we've been on this super super long final thing though is there anything else that is a disservice
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to humanity that i've said i mean this is a pattern that i saw across the couple of episodes
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that i or a couple of clips that i watched yeah um you do you do tend to make at times sure
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broad statement or statements about women broadly like women think that men are bad communicators
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is that actually true like that's another example i think so yes i think if you were to ask
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most women, do you think men struggle with communication? More than women. Relative. It's
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a relative. Heterosexual women are, well, I guess there's more bisexual women than there are
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bisexual men, but heterosexual women are not dating women. So what do the women have to compare it to?
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but in any case um yeah i think women perhaps a majority of women would say that men are lacking
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in some communication skill they're lacking in emotional intelligence which is like a retarded
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buzzword but whatever i think yes i think a lot of women would say this i think humans struggle
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with communication that might be fair to say but i think women specifically say and think yes that
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men do struggle when it comes to communication so the point that i made was more was here right
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let me just ask the panel raise of hands raise of hands again i'm sure that i'm sure you'd agree
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that there are some men who are great communicators however you might think that a lot of men perhaps
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maybe a majority of men 51 or more a lot of men majority of men are not fantastic communicators
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show of hands i well i'm not gonna lie i don't know if they can like look this up but i think
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there is like studies that proves that women do have a higher emotional intelligence on average
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than men i don't even know i reject the emotional intelligence are we not switching camera angles or
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are we okay um but uh i mean like you don't think like emotional intelligence is a thing
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or like what do you mean you reject it like so emotional intelligence is just basically
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understanding your emotions that's like all it is is like understanding and being able to process
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your emotions and so like i've heard varying definitions i'm not gonna get bogged down in
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the emotional intelligence thing but um yeah i mean i've definitely heard women say that
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uh there's issues with communication when it comes to men women it's a frustration of women
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And I don't think it's a disservice to, I mean, truth be told, that's not really a, that's again, something I stated tonight, though.
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Based on a couple of episodes that I've watched many more since then.
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Okay, so do you think whenever you make a generalized statement about a group of people, do you think that in and of itself is a disservice to humanity?
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I think this pattern of misrepresenting women on average.
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Okay. So that, okay, here, I'll just use Hitchens razor. That which is asserted without evidence
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can be dismissed without evidence. I'm not interested in your opinion. If you're going
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to make a claim, you need to have evidence for the claim. You need to point at something that
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is the misinformation that is the disservice to humanity. So if it's just your opinion,
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if it's just vibes and feels, I feel like you're a misogynist, Brian. I feel like you dislike
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women brian i feel like you stereotype women brian point me to the evidence and i can contend with
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it i don't think her statement is fair to you based on a few videos like you got to give him
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more credit because each woman is giving that answer they represent themselves you know does
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he say smart comments back yeah but it's funny i'm laughing here just listening to him i
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don't i think we're looking at the wrong way i don't think she's saying that like
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the disservice thing is one thing but because you're a male host you predominantly are putting
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your views on how a man's perspective is against how he's treated by women and if it was a woman
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host and we were looking about how she feels in her perspective about how men are like how a man
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treats a woman or like his emotional intelligence versus that it might make men look worse in the
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general population but because you're a male host and your experiences with women it's making
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it's the judgment on how women are if that makes sense uh i mean no not really like i just reject
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women are representing themselves again wait isn't there actually more a compelling argument
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here since like it's not i don't bring on 10 men and be like okay talk shit about women for eight
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hours i'm like bring bring on women open microphone you can state whatever you view
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like i don't understand how that would be i don't know that doesn't make sense to me it's just
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because it's more through a male's lens and you're guiding women but you guide the show and i think
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that's the point is you guide it in the direction that you want it to go is her point well i could
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be it takes two to tango to engage in conversation but um i certainly have my outlook and my
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perspective. However, um, just because I'm a man that, that doesn't, I like to think on a higher
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level where it's not just some like male solidarity thing. I think we can examine facts
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about dating. We can examine the truth of dating and it doesn't apply in all instances,
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some of these things. But again, I'm not saying all women want men to pay for first dates.
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No, of course, that's ridiculous, and I would, that's not true.
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Yes, it's logically, it can be demonstrated logically, it's just kind of common sense,
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So it's not misinformation, it's not a disservice to humanity, completely reject it.
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I think what you're doing, if I can go on the offensive here, is a disservice to humanity,
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because you want to reject common sense you want to reject logical observation you want to in fact
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even reject uh just kind of uh well the studies of course but just i mean i don't know um i think
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that's a greater your your kumbaya approach to life is bullshit are you in favor of illegal immigration
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no so you're against it yes should we deport all the illegal immigrants here in the united
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states i think it's a very complex issue that you can't just pick up and ship people out of the
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country completely disagree that would be one it would be really good no offense toward a barbie
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um do we have any other mexicans here i don't want to offend i'm not mexican oh okay sorry
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port uh what guatemalan guatemalan my apologies we can deport them too just kidding um
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uh so i don't think it's nuanced i don't think it's complicated i don't think we need
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government bureaucracy spending millions of dollars doing studies on on this shit
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illegal immigration is bad for the united states it's bad for citizens they need to fucking go
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whether voluntarily which would be preferable or through deportation are you in favor of
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deportations yes or no yes all illegal immigrants i'm in favor of a smart responsible efficient
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system um that i don't think is like yes or no it it's i don't study these things so i don't i
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don't know what that would look like but you're right but i would so i would say by the way i
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don't have this this isn't um i don't have any really strong felt animus for individual
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illegal immigrants uh and i assume most of them aside from the crime they've committed by
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either overstaying a visa or entering the country illegally um most of them are otherwise law
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abiding they're not violent they're not criminals uh my position is though because you might say
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well the violent ones of course we should deport what about the non-violent ones who don't commit
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crimes who are otherwise you know mostly productive i guess should we deport them too
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which is most of them i i do think that we should have a system that that does deport
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illegal immigrants yeah but i i don't think it's a simple system so i'm hesitant to
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like give a detailed answer because i i don't know what the the context is okay like are they
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working in jobs for example where if we pick up and move everyone out of the country like
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businesses fall apart because they can't find enough workers like i think we have to be more
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we have to be smart about these things i'm willing to take that hit to be honest i'd like to speak
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if you wouldn't mind on this subject i believe they shouldn't be in this country they did not
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enter legally there's nothing more to talk about they need to go can i ask something i i married
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So we have Canadians, we have Denmark, we got China.
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Do you think that process should be shorter and easier for people?
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But you said it was long and hard and it took 13 years.
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Oh, hard because you do have to test a test, which isn't really hard if you are willing to work for it.
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It's only hard if you don't want to work for it, if you're willing to do it.
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I'm going to have, Kaya, can you read this for us, the red?
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This insufferable bleeding heart lib doesn't know what an enigma machine is.
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I don't know what enigma machines have to, oh, duh.
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okay the the um the the code or not the what's the term for it cryptology wait oh my god how am
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i blanking on the it's on the tip of my tongue oh grammy cryptography wait the fuck why am i
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blank i know what it is but it's like do you know what the enigma machine my response is i appreciate
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the uh creative comment that's it okay all right well uh thank you political overtones
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the code breakers like the people oh my god why why is the actual term for us no no no no this is
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like um why am i somebody in the chat will know i can't believe i'm playing it i know what it is
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the word is blanking on me here it is uh was i right cryptography is it cryptography ciphers
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well cipher the cipher is the decrypt i don't know whatever i think i was right maybe maybe
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i was right i don't know i feel like there's another term for it but uh anyways whatever
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where were we uh deporting immigrants no we're gonna we'll move it on okay let's do relationship
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status we need to get into some other topics um all right uh going around the table what's your
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relationship status microphone um single for how long uh like three years
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longest relationship um two and a half years okay situationship talking white guy
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is there a guy in the picture for you currently at all yeah how many guys
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uh some that i talk to so you have a roster yeah how big is the roster um i don't know
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yeah like how many i don't know really like how many just people that i talk to like text
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well like are you going on dates um i do sometimes yeah okay like how many dates have you gone on in
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the past month um holy shit tiffany could you be fucking louder go ahead continue i don't know i
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wouldn't call them dates they're like just i hang out with okay you hang out with them and do you
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hook up yeah okay so in the past month how many different guys have you hooked up with
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a lot of them are like the same so two two three
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um i guess three okay three guys all right so you're kind of dating seeing three guys
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fair to say yeah okay uh you have one guy in the picture do you have more other situationships or
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just the one? Just the one. And it's not a black guy? It's a black guy. Oh, I thought you asked
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if it was a black guy. No, I asked if it was a white guy. Oh, I thought he was a black guy. No,
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it was a black guy. That was a black guy. How long have you been seeing him? Since October.
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Longest relationship? Two years with a white guy. Wait, you've been in a situation ship since
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October? Yeah, because I don't want to date him. Why? Because he's a content creator and I am a
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content creator as well. You live in the same city? No, that's a big thing. So it's a long
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distance yeah do you see other men no no okay what about you relationship status um i've been
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single for the past like four or five months okay and um yeah longest relationship 14 years
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all right were you married yes more than once yes how many times married three three times married
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yes um let's go chronologically first marriage how long was that one seven years like high school
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sweetheart okay so it's high school sweetheart well we were together seven years on and off
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we were married like only two years out of that whole thing okay um
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second marriage how long second marriage was um let's yeah that was 14 years third marriage
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um the well the third actually the second marriage was only four years i'm sorry i forget about that
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i hate to say it but it was so quick but the third was the 14 year oh okay gotcha yeah the
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second how many how many kids do you have i have three and are they from the three separate men
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or is it two of them are from the same and my oldest is from my death the first okay so two
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two fathers yeah okay um and then you do you share the biolog full biological sister or are you the
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one out i guess or her and her brother me and my brother our full bio yeah and then i have a half
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sister from her first marriage i see okay got it um are you currently seeing anybody um
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They do, which they say that I probably would not understand, comprehend, or be able to pronounce.
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I'm just curious, what do you think about all that?
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and then we'll continue on to relationship status
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Um, do your, does your other daughter, how old is she?
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And are you cool with your daughter doing OnlyFans?
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uh does the dad approve of the OF or does he know does he does dad know I don't I don't think he
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knows I don't know do you yeah how often do you see him I don't know how much is like once every
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couple months okay um so he doesn't know I mean would he be upset if he um knew he'd probably
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like not agree with it but okay but what like he would still he can't really say anything about it
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well yeah of course you're i mean you are an adult you can make your own choices but he would
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not approve is what you're saying probably okay uh all right uh okay maybe we'll come back to that
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later relationship status single for how long a few months uh okay longest relationship
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Yep. About 10 years. 10 years. Okay. You married? Yep. Twice. Been married twice. Yep. Divorced
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twice. Yep. I'm going to come right back to you. You've been divorced three times, correct? Yes.
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Who initiated the divorce in each instance? First time it was me. Second time it was me.
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Third time. Who filed the divorces, I should say, I guess. Me. In all three. Well, the third was
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really strange it just came up that the marriage had been dissolved um in 2013 and you guys had
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been separated then we have been separated since 2012 yeah it was an old or he didn't know and i
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certainly didn't know dissolved all right uh were in any of the marriages were you given alimony
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um no child support no no child support no were you earning more than the men
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uh definitely earning more than their dad wait hold on wait wait hold on wait wait wait you're
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a psychic yes and a medium yes and a clairvoyant yes and but i followed my heart to have you should
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have seen it coming i did you should have seen it coming what happened and uh i did shit not even
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the psychics know if you know we know oh you know you went against your psychic intuition i just
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I wanted to see where it took me and have a good time.
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Actually, my second husband, he makes a lot of money, like millions.
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Well, of any of the husbands, no child support?
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No, I turned their dad's social security number in to get something, and nothing ever happened.
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you say my podcast is a disservice to humanity and i might say is this misinformation the majority
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of women initiate divorces do you take issue with that it's i don't know that the statistics show
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it's like 80 of divorces are initiated by women okay i'm not making a claim about the causes
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right but it is true that the majority of divorce is initiated by women okay anyways back to this
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two divorces. How many kids do you have? Three. Same guy or different guys? Two dads. Two dads.
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Okay. And are they in the picture? Yeah. Both of them? Yes. And you're, you, I think I saw like a
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photo on your IG. You're like traveling with, like, so he's closely in the picture. Like you
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guys co-parent. Yep. But don't live together. Is that correct? Okay. Does he pay you, do either of
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them pay you or have paid you alimony um not not alimony no child support yes both of them
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so for the first i offered um going back to your comment i said let's do a reduced amount
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um i don't make very much um so some amount helps but here's what i can scrape by on
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and i was dirt poor sure but i i took the amount that would allow me to get by
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or i i agree to a reduced amount sure i mean uh you had kids with these men i assume it was
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these pregnancies were not mistakes i assume they were intentional the first was unplanned
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unplanned the other were planned though yeah okay so i mean of course uh you know you have a kid you
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should financially provide uh now the child support that's paid it's informal is that correct
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it's not through the court system it's through the court system oh you probably because you were
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getting divorced though it's like it's baked in yep yeah it's not i think if you're married then
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you have to essentially go through the court system it's probably part of the divorce
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calculator yep yeah so if you weren't married to them you could handle it informally i suppose but
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anyways uh you were single for five months you said a few months i don't know two three when uh
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have you had a rebound no okay so you got divorced is that correct five months ago oh no um oh you've
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been separated for a while so the guy you broke up with a few months ago was like a boyfriend
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yeah okay how long are you seeing him a couple years a couple years okay all right um we're
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still very good friends the boyfriend boyfriend yeah like you hang out with him yeah oh boy that's
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a can of worms right there okay so like if you just really quick question i'm not gonna linger
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on it let's say you're dating a guy okay and i mean look the father of the children that's kind
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of that's there but your boyfriend who you don't have children with correct you you're dating a
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new guy and he's uncomfortable with this friendship that you have with your ex uh and he's like and
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you really like this new guy and he's like look i'm not comfortable with you dating him or sorry
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excuse me not dating him hanging out with him okay are you like you know what i respect that
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i'm not gonna hang out with him anymore are you gonna be like no i'm gonna keep hanging out i'm
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gonna keep the friend i think it would depend on his reasoning so like he just doesn't like it
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Well, I think intuition offers a really important signal.
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So if the vibe just seems off, I think I'd probably end that friendship.
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The four-and-a-half-year relationship, who broke up with who?
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Are there currently any guys in the picture, in any capacity?
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How long have you been together with your husband?
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and you are swingers yes so he sleeps with other women and you sleep with other men is that correct
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that's correct sometimes in a group sometimes in a group in a group setting but sometimes
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separately too is that correct uh it's it's very complex we don't do it separately
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always in a group sorry always in a group always together to some capacity so yeah
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now is it ever more than uh in a room while sex is occurring is it ever more than four people
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yeah okay so there can be six eight yeah like i may not interact with everyone i'm very selective
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with who i interact with but it could be like there's parties that could have 200 people in
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the house okay uh what so with the swinging uh are there any rules like do you guys wear rubbers or
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there's there's like a lot of nuances to it there's a no that seems like no no that we do
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oh yeah of course never like not use a rubber in these swinging parties in the swinging parties no
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always a rubber yes okay you know what really quick as a tangent this is going to be a hot take
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Well, I mean, you can be, one, you're going to be very intentional with who you're dating.
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Like, I'm not going out to bars and clubs and getting drunk and just, like, fucking two new girls every single week.
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I'm obviously vetting, assuming that the woman is not operating in that same way.
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Obviously, you can do STD tests beforehand.
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I'm not just, like, fucking, like, multiple new women per week.
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So, I get that for somebody who's, like, you, who's, like, not fucking.
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But, like, dudes who are, like, fucking women.
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But, I mean, it's a bit of a different question.
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Like, is the sex more pleasurable without a condom?
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yeah we just got protectors i think i agree with you i i would don't even want to have sex if i
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have to use a condom it sounds i really don't but look i and look but if you are moving in a way
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where the sex sex is very casual and you're seeing multiple partners and the girl or the man is seeing
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multiple people then you should be protected but like the only way i would like i'm i'm gonna be
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honest if a girl like if a girl was like um uh wanted to and she could be insanely hot and she's
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like well i'll have sex with you with condom i'd actually turn her down i'd be like eh maybe next
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time we could i'd just be like what about i just oral sex i guess i don't know maybe that's crazy
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i just don't even it wouldn't be like for example here's another example hand jobs i'd rather if
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that's all that's on the table like that's it only a hand job i'd rather just not get the hand job
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like i'm good but i think that's most men like maybe i think a lot of guys will take the hand
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job and it could be like masseuse level hand job i'm like i don't know no i don't even want the
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hand stay away like there is times that we won't use but it's like you have a very close group where
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you get tested within a certain time period yeah and then you wouldn't but it's like that's that's
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a rarity because that's relying on everyone to get those tests in a timely manner that is not
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exposing yourself to multiple issues so i guess back to the swinging thing though um what's the
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most amount of men you've had carnal knowledge within a night sex like actual sex with p and the
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v probably three like i'm not like at a 200 person party that i was at i had sex with maybe three
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and what about the the husband is he is he a bit more on well i counted him as one but how about
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him does he like go on a tear and like smash like 10 not really he'll do three two or yeah like
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we're we're pretty it's it's rare that we do it and like when we do it's pretty neutral for both
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of us i wonder like um like what's even the point of being married if you're a swinger like i don't
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know if you're poly i don't know whatever um okay like i'd argue i'm bisexual and like i don't think
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it's fair for me to experience stuff with other people. Okay. If like he doesn't have that ability
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to as well. So it just kind of opens the door. We're like, and we only do it together. So the
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argument would be is we're doing this and we enjoy watching each other together. If that makes any
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sense. You honestly, you also do porn too. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. Does he do porn? Yes. Oh,
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he's a porn star. I wouldn't say we're porn stars, but you both do like a boy, girl porn with other
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people yeah okay and um are you guys also so swinging is different than poly like swinging
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seems like it's just maybe you guys have repeat repeats with people but you aren't romantically
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engaging with other people it's like just sex right it's just sex because some people will
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be poly where it's like the man loves three different women you know no i don't like people
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enough fair enough i can't have the romantic tina t-dog yo what have you gotten a plastic surgery
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since we last since last show you look different does she look different i don't know i i know
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or is it just the makeup i don't know no just makeup okay uh relationship status i'm totally
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single right now actually i lost three really handsome men because of the podcast
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wait say that again i lost three handsome men because of the podcast
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fucking did it wait so you're saying you were dating three guys were these the guys you were
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sleeping with tina i know you're sleeping with some of them only one one of them yeah the others
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the whatever podcast yes i think that's a w he texted me he said oh i watched some part of your
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podcast i don't think you are the right person i want to meet with so sorry and he unfollowed me
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you know what though and the other probably for the best and the other two they just unfollowed
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me without saying anything oh my gosh and even blocked me oh well um but you've you've since
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dated a new guy is that correct didn't you say you were having carnal knowledge with a new man
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right now yes i mean after i lost three months i only have a one night stand with my friend this
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months oh my god can we all get a moment just i want a moment of silence for her sex life
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okay that was enough um i'm sorry i'm sorry we did that to you christina it's christina right
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or is it just tina christina and you put the like a very weird title of the clips
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what did i put a chinese girl dated 10 men at the same time whoa i did not say that what 10 men
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wait did i say that did i say that clips you said you had like 10 dudes on the roster didn't you
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i mean the total situation shape is like not at the same time it might be a weird
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question though it might be a weird title but is it true i mean not the same time it's total
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total is 10 but wait are you talking about body count situationship 10 situationships
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at the same time no total total you've ever had oh
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no you made it sound like okay whatever um anyways uh okay next
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relationship status in the process of a divorce divorcing okay correct how long were you married
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to him eight years uh together for how long eight years how many kids or do you have kids
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The first husband unfortunately committed suicide.
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So my three children lost their father a few years ago.
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Um, mental illness manifested five years into our marriage on his side.
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Um, schizophrenia or what was the, it started out with bipolar and him doing really crazy
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Well, actually, yes, it could have kind of exacerbated it.
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he started to smoke some weed some medical marijuana which i think brought it out actually
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he started to turn all the pictures upside down if if i can and i don't know so did did he develop
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schizophrenia at the end he did but he started taking anti-psychotics at the end yikes okay if
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i can that did if i can actually give to a public service announcement the fucking potheads in the
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chat are not going to be happy about this there are studies emerging that uh weed can trigger
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uh can precipitate development of schizophrenia where it otherwise would not now obviously this
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does not happen in the vast majority of people who smoke weed but schizophrenia is a really
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intense and heavy uh i mean there's obviously different severities to it
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um i actually i don't think i've shared maybe i shared this luckily that didn't happen to me
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but when i was young when i was 17 and i don't know if any of the other women have had this
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experience i smoked weed a couple times in high school and i don't know if it was the strain or
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I smoked too much, but I, I had a crazy panic attack, smoking weed. And then it triggered,
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luckily I, I overcame it pretty much better, but it triggered anxiety. I was having panic attacks
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for like the, pretty much the entirety of my senior year in high school. Um, really bad anxiety.
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And I haven't touched the touched it since if I, if they're most of the viewers are like in their
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twenties and thirties. So you guys have probably already smoked weed. If there's any young people
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watching, don't smoke weed. Do not smoke weed. Like you can, it can bring on schizophrenia when
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it, when you otherwise would not develop it. Weed is not as safe as, uh, as some of them suggest.
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Now, look, a lot of people probably smoke weed and it's just, they enjoy it. It's not a big deal.
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um but it is something to be cautious of because this is some heavy shit like you could um look
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majority of people who smoke weed it probably doesn't nothing happens they're the same whatever
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but for the small percentage of people who have like you can have life-changing catastrophic
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things happen to you so i just say consider stopping or never do it anyways um sorry to
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I don't think it's meant, really nothing's meant to go into our bodies.
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We shouldn't be putting any drugs into our bodies.
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There's a lot of weed smokers in the chat that are triggered over that.
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But I think it has to do with their mental state of mind.
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It's kind of like when you do shrooms, it's the same concept, right?
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It can either hit you hard or hit you great, right?
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And if you're doing weed at, like, 14, your brain hasn't even developed.
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Like, you're altering it as, you know what I mean?
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And if someone's bipolar or not, that doesn't affect, that's going to make it worse.
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I'm in a relationship with my boyfriend, and this July, it'll be two years.
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I'm talking to a few guys, and I'm actually dating myself.
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You said you're talking to a few guys, how many?
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It's about two and a half years, like on and all.
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um longest relationship i think three years three years okay and um
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let's see you're currently in an age gap relationship yeah 14 years
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14 year age gap so you're 18 and he's 32 yes okay and wait when did you turn 18 i turned 18
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january 7th how did you meet him i met him on discord you met him on discord yeah uh what was
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the what was the discord well like the topic it was a vtuber sort of thing a like a female vtuber
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yes you you met your boyfriend who is four no wait 14 years your senior
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on a female vtuber discord yes where does he live same area yeah he lives in california
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and you live you live in california too texas oh you're wait so it's long distance
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yeah i don't believe in dating in real life actually i think it's
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wait so how many times have you like met him oh this is the first time i've seen him wait this is
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the first time you've met him how long have you been wait okay in real life we've been dating for
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like four months but and it was online and you came to california to come see him and do the
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podcast yeah and so how was that first meeting was it awkward or was it no it was great i was
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trying i was trying to scare him at the airport i was because he told me he was in the bathroom
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and i was gonna wait can you uh move your bangs just so it's like out of your eyes
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or i don't know if they okay okay i was gonna scare him in the airport because he said he was
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in the bathroom so i was waiting for him and then he came up behind me so i didn't get to scare him
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okay all right um and wait when did you start when did you like first meet or start talking
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like february okay got it um all right that's that's interesting um wow any thoughts from any
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of the women here do you find your relationship predatory no i do i do so okay okay really quick
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i'm gonna get up but this is great so you guys engage in the age gap debate if you want uh i
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need to get up for about five ten minutes or so uh so take it away you guys talk talk it out yo
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so i do think ajak relationships can be predatory if it's like he only goes for girls of a certain
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age because if he was only going for girls my age and he was like enemy because of my age then i
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would have thought that's predatory you know because you can't that's not sustainable as a
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relationship you can't be with someone forever if they're gonna hate you after you expire that's
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actually a big thing against so what were the like his previous relationship before you do you know
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her age uh well he's dated women like his age younger but he doesn't like go out of his way
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to like go for younger women or anything he didn't really know my age at first so and i don't know
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this might be a hot topic for y'all and y'all can like say y'all's opinion but my personal opinion
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i don't think 18 should be the legal age i think it should be like 19 or 20 i think it should be
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21 i think i should be 20 at least i'm not gonna lie if it's 21 to drink yeah it should be 21 for
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a lot of things yeah and i don't know just honestly anybody who goes for somebody who's
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under 20 and you're at least five years older than that person like i find that extremely
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predatory like i think it also you're a child still i'm so sorry but you are like it's okay
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i understand that you're just like concerned but it's more so like what age did you meet him at
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because like if you were discord so you're right in high school like he didn't he didn't like open
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up with like how old are you because you're not supposed to ask women or apparently you look very
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young yeah well he didn't really see me at first it was just over text he actually i met him because
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he was defending me from this dude that was like being really like aggressive towards me so he was
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standing up for me and that's how he started talking do you have a profile picture on your
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discord yeah but it's not me okay yeah I agree with you I think it's a little odd for me a man
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over the age of 30 at all interested in anyone under the age of 21 I personally think he might
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have a record that he's just not disclosing if he's on a particular you know discord it's for
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video games who do video games normally kids you know so i wouldn't say that wait how how old is
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he he said 32 and you're 30 30 would you ever date a 18 year old no like to to me when i talk
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like if you even look at the difference in conversation that you're having between an
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18 year old and a 30 year old the conversation is not the same like the maturity the life
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experience none of it's the same and if it is again a lot of times it's predatory and I don't
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mean to like come off as rude but I do think you're in a predatory relationship just simply
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because I'm sorry my dad is 17 years older than his wife my stepmom I think they have a predatory
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relationship how old 17 years older than my stepmom no 17 years older than my stepmom and I
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So you think your own biological dad's a predator?
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but I think that their relationship definitely has some predatory vibes to it.
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I think she was like 25 or 26, so like it's less predatory.
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i can speak from my own uh experience when i was 15 in in denmark it's legal when you're 15 you can
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be with whoever which is insane yeah i was dating guy i was 28 we were together four and a half
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years when i grew up and my frontal lobes were developing it didn't work anymore because i
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started developing my own opinions i knew who i was i was growing up and didn't work anymore so
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and you realized like that really i realized this now this was disgusting like what the fuck you
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And I don't know if any of y'all have heard about, like, the real Boston Ritchie situation.
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He was 26 dating a 15-year-old, and that's, like, blowing up right now.
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She's coming out about how she didn't realize, like, how predatory it was.
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Yeah, you really don't because you're a victim in that situation.
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it's more so just through like life experience and stuff like I said I personally notice if you
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even go a couple years younger than whatever age anybody's at right now life experience is a huge
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role your past relationships play a huge role your education your background like all that plays a
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huge role in how you interact with people which is the only reason we're saying that it just
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with that type of age gap given the fact that you're fresh 18 yeah it does seem odd but at the
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same time i feel like it's kind of good because he can like help me like learn how to be an adult
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properly but that's grooming yeah so i think we get into a different like i think grooming would
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be like if he was trying to get like sex out of it this whole time i've been with him he's not
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we haven't done that but this is the first time you've seen him so this is we've been together
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for i mean we've been seeing each other for like almost two weeks do you know that you're like the
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only one yeah are you sure i go through his phone you go through his phone yeah he lets me he tells
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me his password no i don't go through it like i don't go through it like that he gives me
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he's not i guess but i was yeah i was gonna say especially there's no way long distance and stuff
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and then like y'all coming to visit and he knows you're coming to visit personally me if i was in
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that situation i'm going through and deleting shit but i don't know hiding shit i feel like
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there could be more than one person anyone is talking to i don't see what the age has to do
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with it really i think we're just talking well you're an age doesn't have to do with that
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my concern is like even though she is 18 she's in high school i know that's like that got me i was
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like whoa that's because i was i was kind of you know okay in my opinion if i was an older man
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and I found out, like, this cute girl, like, I've been talking to over Discord
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and I really get to like her, I find out she's fresh 18.
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I'm sorry, I'm not fucking talking to you anymore.
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I would not continue that relationship, like, at all.
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Like, it's just, like, the fact that he continued that relationship
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Baby girl, I'm just saying you gotta look out a little bit, okay?
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Like, I don't know, we're not trying to come at you,
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I mean, they can't really say anything about it.
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At the end of the day, she's going to do what she wants to do, and she's very young.
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And I guess this is her journey, and she's going to learn a lot.
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And she's going to maybe, she'll maybe make better choices, or maybe it's okay.
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But I feel as though, as an older woman, it's our responsibility to at least have wisdom.
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We don't listen until they believe it themselves and want something to happen themselves.
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But the thing is, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be, like, put your two cents in.
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It plants a seed, but the truth is, she's probably not going to even listen.
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I think, like, the moral is, I can provide my life experience to you, and I can give you my opinion.
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But at the end of the day, like, you will make your own choices.
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as long as i feel that i've expressed or like anybody in your life has expressed that hey this
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might not be a good decision you make your own mistakes we support your decisions it's just
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vocalizing that hey this may be as long as you know that there's an alarm there and you're okay
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with it i mean i've thought about it i've not like not thought about it yeah obviously if i'm going
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into a relationship with an older guy because i i can't really talk about it but i know at this
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point and also everybody has a different moral compass so what we feel is wrong might not be
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wrong to someone else but i do get the perspectives of both sides for sure yeah but in my opinion if
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the legal age was 15 and we were in denmark and he found out she was 15 he'd still go for it to
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me that's predatory you know i don't think it's stopping him is that legal age here in the united
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states for him to go oh no i wouldn't say that because he actually like no i've asked him that
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before well no man is gonna be like yeah oh yeah but you can't you can't like prove that with
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like i said if i was a 32 year old right 32 yeah if i was a 32 year old woman or man
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that relationship, I would view it as predatory.
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Here, why don't we get a temperature check on this?
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Now, I heard some things that were a little interesting on the age gap.
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topic did anyone before I go though did anyone want to weigh in on anything here on this topic
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or well she had mentioned maybe he's gonna kind of teach her to be an adult but that's making me
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wonder how the male figures in your life as you were growing up like how did that go did you have
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a close relationship with your dad or stepdad or an uncle's i lived with my dad like basically
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my whole childhood well you know after my parents divorced but like and i'm close with him it's just
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that he can't give me the right advice with like you know yeah how busy and it's you know yeah yeah
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I just feel like, you know, like, I don't think he, I was, I'm his first and only kid.
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So, like, you know, and then they got divorced and I was really young and he didn't really know how to teach me that stuff, you know.
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So, I have some thoughts on the age gap discussion.
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um the grooming accusations seem a little disproportionate when we're talking about
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age gaps in general do you think a 30 year old dating a 20 year old is grooming her i think 20
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is fine anything under 20 is and you're like okay so 19 fine 30 and 19 that's under 20
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so she's like second year college i personally think that that relationship there it may be
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some grooming involved but it doesn't necessarily mean that every single relationship that has a
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age gap like that there is grooming involved well so let's define our terms here when we're
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talking about grooming can somebody of the same age groom somebody else or is this only an age
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thing if it's like a teacher or someone that's higher than you yeah but that's they can we're
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not that that's like higher positions that's unethical or oftentimes illegal yes exactly we're
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not talking about we're talking about like she met this guy on a gaming discord like he doesn't
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have power over her he's not a doctor he's not a doctor he's not a therapist he's not um a medical
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professional he's not a teacher he's like some dude in a a vtuber discord okay this is not a
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power that's not a power dynamic could we get is he the mod in the discord no is he a mod like do
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you have a higher role i would never date a discord mod could we pull up the actual definition
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of grooming sure uh google it please because i think it does if i don't know if i'm wrong or not
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That's why I want to look up the definition, but I think it does have to do something with
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See, I'm dating a 37-year-old woman, and I have a very strict program as to how I want
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and perhaps in her previous relationship dynamics she's never she's never experienced
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that level of say dominance in a relationship she's worn the pants in her previous relationships
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she's done the egalitarian bullshit before am i grooming her but we're the same age
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the definition because i believe the definition am i wrong does the definition have to do something
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with the age difference no power it's like the power or like a doctor or something but am i am
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i grooming her if i'm like and by the way i was painting that in like the worst way possible yeah
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like i think the better way i could paint it is and i was doing that rhetorically intentionally
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but the better way is like am i grooming a woman for telling her the things that i like
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in a relationship my boundaries my expectations my standards is that grooming okay so that's why
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i want the definition okay all right i think it's like the control yeah because i think
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with grooming it has something to do specifically an actor instance engaging in behaviors or
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practices intended to gradually condition or emotionally manipulate a victim over time is
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Gifts, flattery, in order to entrap the person in a sexually abusive or predatory relationship.
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Is this like the only, is this the fourth definition?
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the act or process of preparing someone to fully position a role
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Like, so this four, this is the one you're looking for.
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To gradually condition or emotionally manipulate a victim over time
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to trap the person in a sexually abusive or predatory relationship.
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so i guess you're gonna have to articulate how the relationship she's in is specifically predatory
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or sexually abusive and that it's emotionally manipulative okay so well you said it would you
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be grooming a girl just because you want like her to be submissive no unless there's sexual abuse or
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predatory really or activity going on okay well i guess like according to the definition and stuff
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oh question does anybody want a popsicle yeah sure okay uh popsicles quick thank you
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i think i'll take one one two three four five six seven holy shit seven eight maybe i don't know
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uh i don't know we got to give them some sugar at this point um i think if we were looking at
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her relationship though it was i'm not saying that she's being groomed necessarily it's more
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the premise of when she said well he can teach me all these things and it depends on how he's
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teaching her and what he's teaching her to identify if it's being groomed or not yeah because i don't
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have enough information to actually say there was something there has to be a way to do the
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popsicles without making all that noise hello do you guys know how to handle i need to groom you
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and how to handle a fucking plastic wrapped fucking thing there's a way to handle something
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where it's not that loud okay holy shit um so I think just grooming just it like according to
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the definition there has to be either predatory activity or sexual abuse according to the
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definition right well I wanted to contend with something I think you might have said it like
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what different phase of life what do they have in common so like oh and the other thing I heard
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someone say i think it was you you as a woman could never see yourself at like 30 dating a 20
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year old man yeah well i think there's a couple on that specific note men and women are different
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so that the traits and attributes and the things that make a woman attractive uh there's not
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symmetry between men and women men and women prioritize and care about different things so
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um this idea that mapping on women's apprehension to dating younger men
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it doesn't really map on like that because the the things that women look for in men
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uh typically and it's just different like it's just a different um what about the cougars though
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like the cougars sure yeah so there are cougars there are women who date younger men i think
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Generally speaking, though, women prefer to date older, a bit older men.
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And, well, I mean, that can even just be one year or two years or something.
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I do have something to say, if you don't mind.
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What, is there a way to just take the thing off?
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Because you're doing some crazy, I've seen what you've done, Tiffany, where you leave the wrapping on and you just,
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do you use scissors or what are you doing but can't you just like quickly take it off
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and then just like grab it from the wood stick and just hand it to them
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but it's way more fucking loud if you're doing this intricate i'm gonna keep the entire thing
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in the plastic wrapping oh my god i can't believe it holy fuck i'm grooming i'm fucking grooming
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you tiffany but i feel like it's quicker okay tiffany is it quicker to wait is it no is it
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quicker to just remove the entire plastic wrapping than it is to do your your thing that you do with
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the no fucking way here i'm hold on i'm gonna we're gonna have we're gonna i'm gonna get
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and you're gonna sit there and we're gonna do a fucking race
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oh my god tiffany you're so thick they tell her he is grooming her which insinuates she is in an
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abusive relationship to making claims like that about someone they have no clue about is wild
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ladies you are quite literally manipulating her by telling her that garbage gaslighting
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i would say more so i like we said we said you can do whatever you want but we're just going to
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give you our opinions which i think this whole entire podcast is really that to be honest so
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Somebody's going to double fist two fucking
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Wait, wait, can you step up for a little bit?
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Can I have you just come out of your seat momentarily?
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I beat you Tiffany and you've been practicing that shit
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I think it's easier to maybe just take the whole thing off
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all right please there we go popsicle and wrapping podcast all right back to the age gap shit um
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i think i heard commonalities or something talking about what common something well we met
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in a place where we had things in common though like that was the whole point and he was talking
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with me before i really mentioned my age he just knew i was oh go ahead continue make some more
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Do you think the average 32-year-old is in the VTuber community?
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I don't play anymore, but I still, just for time purposes,
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yeah it's actually i'd say it's more targeted towards men who are like in their 20s up to their
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30s and past that okay any other thoughts on the age gap from people over here go ahead i'm speaking
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from experience sounds very much like my long-term relationship met online huge age gap he was gonna
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teach me about life now i'm like what the fuck was that i feel like most women who was in a position
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Like, I would love to talk to you in, like, two years.
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Like, I would, like, absolutely love to get your contact information.
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And in two years, when you are 20 years old, I'd love to have a conversation with you about this exact thing.
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You know, when I was 33, I had a one-night stand with an 18-year-old.
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if she told me she was dating a 30 year old i think i'd be fine with it so i think it's all
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perspective i have a tts coming through hide based thor donated 200 sounds like a bunch of
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jealous expired women coping 18 is a legal adult and women call it predatory why don't you shame
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young women for preying on older men for their resources x china women slash chair six
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um i would say because well in this conversation do you like use him for his money or anything
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oh no he's not rich or anything so i think it's wrong to use anybody for their money because
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everybody's own money should be their own money type shit i grew up with like type shit type
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shit i grew up with parents who like went bankrupt and stuff and i don't know so i told the get an
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understand oh fuck the comment is gone yeah it read it though fuck fuck i was gonna refer back
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to it can you pull back up i'm married so being expired it's like you know i'm 30 years old and
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married so like all right and i remember i remember what it says they said 18 is the legal age and i
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want to ask you about this do you like i think a lot of men who do date 18 year olds would date
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But would you say that's common in Denmark then?
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I had multiple men like when I went to the gym went to party went to the bus didn't care 15 fine
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you're legal and it's because it's the legal age yeah and so that's the same thing if 16 or 15 was
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the legal age I guarantee we would see men dating 15 16 year olds here in the United States we would
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but we wouldn't see all men doing all men doing it I didn't say all men baby well yeah I know but
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it's like I feel like there's a reason we settled on 18 as like a general age of consent it like it
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kind of differs a little bit depending on state but like see even online the age of consent is
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like 18 for everything even if the age of consent is 17 or 16 or 15 you can't do only fans if you're
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under the age of 18. Yeah in my personal opinion I think the age of consent should we were talking
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about this I think it should be 20 they said 21 and the reason why I think that is because 18
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19 that you're still a teen you're still a child to me you know what I mean I don't think like you
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really develop being an adult until your your age doesn't end in teen anymore so like I don't know
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I'm curious to differentiate between two things on this topic I don't know if there'll be common
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ground or not um do you think men who simply find who wouldn't date but find women who are 18 19 20
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21 say it's like the men in their 30s who only who just find them physically attractive but
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wouldn't date them is it wrong that older men find younger women again i'm talking about adult
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women here 18 19 20 21 wrong to find them physically attractive i could say yes and no
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like obviously like i think i don't even think i think look it's a societal standard that like
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literally if you look up like the definition of beauty it's like like youth is like beauty and
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stuff like that and so I don't think it's wrong to like find people attractive and stuff like that
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I really think it depends on how you act on it like let's say I'm a 50 year old man I obviously
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there's gonna be some fucking hot 18 19 year old girls when I'm fucking 50 like that's fucking life
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like let's be real but to me it depends if I act on it or not like if I'm a 50 year old man and I
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see those people and then i act on it that's like the difference is the action for me but sometimes
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thoughts lead to action you are right you are right but i think it's just like okay human nature
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like people are gonna be hot at fucking you were raising your hands no i was saying the same you
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don't choose who you are attracted to but you choose how you act on it you know right but so
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is it wrong how about this framing uh let's say an 18 i'm 37 right an 18 year old girl dms me
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and i'm not pursuing her and and i date women my age i date women older i date women younger
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but in this particular instance like i'm not kicking it at college parties just trying to
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get some fucking college chicks or whatever she dms me is and should i reject her because she's 18
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i think if i was in your position i would like reject her if i found out she was 18 because
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personally for me if i was in your position i would want at least 20 or up because like i said
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to me if your age ends in teen you're still a child to me um should 18 year old women be allowed
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Yeah, he was three years older than me, so he was...
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I don't know if that's Romeo and Juliet or whatever, but like, are you fine...
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Are you fine with 18-year-olds and 18-year-olds fucking?
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Well, I think legally it's 48 months where it's, like, legally an issue underneath 18.
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No, I know, but I guess what I'm asking here is you don't necessarily have an issue with 18-year-old women having sex.
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Like, I think everybody should be able to make their own decisions.
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Should we prevent 18-year-old white women from having sex with black men?
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I think you can sleep with who you want to sleep with.
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Except for an animal, I don't fucking know.
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But I think you should be able to sleep with who you want to sleep with.
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But also, at the same time, if I was in her position and I was dating an older man,
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I would appreciate at least if I didn't know that that was predatory.
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Like, if I didn't know that was, like, predatory or anything, I think I would, like, in the future at least appreciate, like, an older woman, like, talking to me at least about, like, maybe her experience or what she views or something.
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That's why I would like to talk to her in, like, two years.
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All the older women are going to be like, yes, I did an older man, and it's like maybe they're going to say it was a bad experience.
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They all dated men their age, and they had bad experiences.
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okay so what what is the actual objection aside from just like it gives you the ick
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like is it morally wrong i think to me it's morally wrong for the on whose part the older guy
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both because i would say i mean like it depends on i guess who is in the younger position like if
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it was a younger man like it's the same thing in an older woman i think the younger person would
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would be in like the victim if we had to say like victim and like predator the younger person is
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always going to be in that victim because older people i'm you're 37 you have 15 years of wisdom
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and experience on me nothing can give me those 15 years of wisdom and experience unless i lived
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those 15 years uh not necessarily i think people can be wise at a younger age but um i agree also
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do men choose to date women based on their wisdom like is that a high priority this depends on the
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man but i i would say on average no well let me ask you this what about the 40 year old man who
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doesn't have kids but he wants to have kids should he date the 40 year old woman or should he find a
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25 year old i i'm not gonna lie like i said my parents have or my stepmom and my stepdad have a
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17 year age gap sure i say no because of okay i was raised in like that dynamic and it was so
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fucked up okay but there are fucked up dynamics where they're the exact same age obviously being
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the same age does not uh prevent fucked up dynamics from happening or being within like
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a certain age range doesn't doesn't prevent it from happening i would say that has more to do
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with the respective people in that relationship and their personality and their temperament but um
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again i i i don't know if i got an answer to this an 18 year old dms me and wants to date me
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should i not date her i would say if if i were in your shoes you wouldn't do it but i wouldn't do
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it would you object under that lens so she's all up on me okay so I've been in the situation where
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I've been that 18 year old or like whatever and had or like I'm 23 now and I still have like
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friends who are like 18 19 every single time I have like an 18 19 year old friend who is talking
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to an older man I sit down and have a talk with him and I'm like okay listen like I understand
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that older man may be desirable but like you're gonna realize like you know maybe in like five
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years that this relationship maybe didn't come from like the best standpoint or anything i don't
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know i just think like a huge age gap relationship is predatory that's just i i just yeah why is it
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predatory because okay to me my parents my stepmom she was in fucking diapers when my dad was
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graduating high school that's fucked was he dating her when she was in diapers no but like bro okay
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she was an adult she was an adult when they started dating she was what 25 24 you said yeah
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I don't know I just I being raised in that dynamic I see their age gap and how like their age gap
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how their age gap created issues within their relationship because my dad simply has
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17 years more experience than she does I'm like maybe that's a good thing maybe that's a good
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thing hold on let me ask you guys a question for some of the younger women or women you can think
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back to when you were young when you were dating guys in college or whatever who were like 18 19
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2021 were they like all over the fucking place and you're like oh they're so immature blah blah
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has that never been the case for you women dating younger men absolutely yeah well you're like these
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younger guys like they just want to fuck around and they don't want a relationship they don't
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want commitment um they they're immature they watch the fucking nelk boys they want to do bong rips
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and they want to fucking do keg stands and shit it's like not all by the way to be clear not all
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young men do that stuff but um how do we balance you have women who are like these young guys are
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really immature and they just want pussy and they're not really looking for anything serious
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and also dating older men is like objectionable i don't know who you actually end up dating then
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if uh if your issue is the age ends with teen what if like we change language and we just
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Listen, man, if you want to date a 19-year-old,
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No. So I'm engaging in the argument here. I'm not going out of my way trying to date 18, 19, 20 year olds or whatever. If they want to, again, I'm not going to college parties. I'm not on dating apps. I'm not setting my age filter all fucked up.
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If they want to come to me and they want to date me and she's a beautiful 19-year-old, I don't actually see the problem with it.
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From my perspective, she doesn't have a bunch of trauma.
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Hopefully her body counts low because she hasn't been from dick to dick to dick to dick.
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And she can bear me a fuck ton of children.
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And I'm in a place where I want like seven children.
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I think we were kind of a little hard on her, which is not fair to her, right?
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we've all been 18 we've all been there we've all been attracted to someone that's older
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you know she will learn on her own if that's something she chooses yeah you know yes we do
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have our own opinions and stuff like that but at the end of the day you know she she should do what
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she would like and yeah and that's what we said she feels you know that that's okay then that's
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her uh i think you were maybe both raising your hand but go ahead i think the issue is more so
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like at 18 you're very easy to manipulate you don't have the life experience you usually don't
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have the backbone that you get as you grow older a lot of the men have that where they're able to
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easily manipulate women to do what they want and i'm not saying this happens every time because
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that's obviously not the case yeah but it is common where they can date younger women and
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get them to they want versus dating a woman who's their own age who would say like no i don't want
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to do it that way no i don't want to be like this i have lived that experience before so it's more so
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they're just easier manipulated to do what you want or be groomed to do what you want grooming
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okay i'll respond to that after she goes go ahead yeah i agree um i think it's about like you don't
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you you don't know who you are when you're 18 your frontal lobes are not developed pull that
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up in the discord please the the 25 year old prefrontal lobe shit's been fucking debunked
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Maybe you are being manipulated into a face you normally wouldn't do.
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who can actually, like, string together a sentence properly.
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The brain matures at 25 myth, or a 25-year-old brain myth,
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is the belief that the human brain reaches an adult level of maturity
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This interpretation is widespread in the media and public discourse
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The most common relates to the prefrontal cortex of the brain
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and its role and function, such as decision-making,
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long-term planning, risk assessment, and impulse control.
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The prefrontal cortex has been shown to mature at a slower rate than other parts of the brain.
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This finding has been widely cited in popular media, public discourse, and some policy context
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to argue that individuals under 25 years of age do not have mature decision-making capabilities.
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Its exact origin is unclear, but some have pointed to the research of neuroscientist Jay Geed.
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Most research indicates that human brain development continues into the 20s,
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but there is no strong evidence suggesting a sharp cutoff at 25
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Yeah, I want to know when the brain is fully developed.
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that whether it's a man's brain or the woman's brain,
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they're like fucking Einstein, 300 IQ genius.
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In reality, maybe the difference in development is you're 18 and your brain is like 98% there.
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And by the way, it's completely debunked who knows what the actual truth of it is.
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It's not like, okay, you're like 50% retarded at 18.
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And then at 25, you're some fucking genius.
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It's probably more like, okay, at 18, you're like 98, 99% there.
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And then there's like some further development.
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but it's like one or two percent maybe okay go ahead i don't think it's about like
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biological how your brain is developing i think it's more experience you know okay that's that's
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a different claim though go ahead um i think like you know exactly what you're doing like when you're
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18 and like you can you know who you're gonna be with and who you're dating i don't think it's bad
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to date someone older yeah um someone else was raising their hands yeah so i think as a society
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we we decide what laws we want to make and we did that at some point for joining the military
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drinking alcohol smoking cigarettes things like this and we have decided as a society that it's
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18. Um, that's correct. Yeah. I would argue that maybe we change some of these, these things to
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21. Um, but until we do that, then from my perspective, there's not something wrong about
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that age gap. Okay. Um, I did want to respond to you. You were saying it's easier to manipulate
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younger women. Uh, so, and this would be something that occurs in age gaps. Uh, of course,
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I'm sure you would agree that same-aged men could obviously be just as, if not more manipulative than older men.
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Nothing prevents anybody from being manipulated or not manipulated due to their age.
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Further, I actually think that, so by the way, just to be clear, I'm never making the case like, oh, women should, like, you should disregard men your age or around your age.
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and you should date older men. The reality is actually, and I accept this, the majority of
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women, younger women, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, prefer even going into mid to late 20s, prefer to
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date a guy around their age, maybe plus one, two, three years. That's typically the range you
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typically see. Most women would prefer that. Now, what's interesting to me though about this
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easy to manipulate thing though is that i actually think in if you're an older guy
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i actually think there's way more hurdles and you just have to be way more attractive
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to like to be older and deal with younger women uh so i don't know i actually think
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like let me let me put it this way a 35 year old who doesn't who's never been married who
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doesn't have kids who's like clock is ticking time i actually think as a 37 year old who's dated 35
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like women in their 30s and these women are like really pressed to like get a family and their
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options are dwindling because no offense like as and i think it's the case too for men i'm not going
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to double standard it like i do think yes like unless you're a really attractive guy in his 30s
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like most 30 year old men are not bagging like daddy hottie fucking 19 year olds that's bullshit
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however i actually think i can manipulate the woman who's like gotta have kids gotta have kids
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i can manipulate the fucking shit out of her whereas that fucking 19 year old beautiful woman
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i have to bring so much value to the table for her to find not just me like any older man attractive
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and she's like not in a rush to have kids she's having fun she's not like really pressed a lot
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of younger women are not pressed to get into some like long-term relationship a lot of them got
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rosters and have an abundance of options i can actually make the claim that it's way easier to
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manipulate 33 year old i gotta get married i gotta have kids woman over 19 year old beautiful woman
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who has the fucking world open to her she's way harder to get and to manipulate because if like
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if i do anything to fuck that up she's like i have a line of men hot men my age who want to be with
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me who the fuck are you or is a 35 30 30 to 35 year old woman she's pressed for time i can
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manipulate her not that i'm a manipulative i'm i'm a perfect gentleman like so this argument
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know like it's way harder for me it's way harder to get a fucking first off most 20 year olds don't
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want to date like a guy in their 30s there's like a uh there's their own preference and obviously
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the age gap discourse it's like it's gotten it wasn't as bad in the past like this conversation
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we're having now predatory that that creates an apprehension in younger women who would otherwise
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actually be okay dating an older man it's like oh okay i'm gonna be judged by my like male and
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female peers if I'm dating somebody older. So I do think that, um, I, I, I don't know. I do
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definitely think that there's not, uh, like the social narrative surrounding age gap relationships.
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It's very much anti, uh, age gap relationships. And this is going to influence younger women to
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having apprehension to, uh, dating older men. But yeah, I can definitely manipulate way more
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an older woman i agree with that i was manipulated i disagree i strongly agree i now well it depends
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the manipulation like i'm not sure like what 30 year olds you're meeting where you're like i can
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manipulate them like crazy because i've never met a 30 year old woman who's like yeah you can do
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whatever you want to me but i've definitely met 18 year olds what do we mean by manipulate i guess
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but um i do think like it's obviously do you think it's easier though for a 35 year old man to date
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like a woman but between 30 and 35 or is it easier for him to date like a 20 year old this also
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depends on what you offer like if we're speaking say for example yourself who offers financial
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security and whatnot yeah but i'm like chubby and like you know that doesn't matter because if you
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look at the standards of like some wealthy people and you look at who they're with watch out they're
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younger women like they're easy to manipulate because they can do they're not going to leave
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you because if you provide financial stability for them and you're able to provide other things
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that their co-peers don't have at 18 years old like what 18 year old is like my boyfriend buys
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me whatever he wants like whatever i want well it's different like it's not you're saying that
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you can make their 35 year old but i strongly disagree but are the 20 year old women refusing
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to date the 20 to 22 year old men because they're not providing that no most like 20 year old women
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are dating like 22 year old men and these men are not necessarily providing these things i would
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argue you look at the priorities of an 18 19 20 21 22 year old woman uh i would say now some
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younger women do have like a long-term outlook and are dating intentionally i think a lot of
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younger women prioritize is he hot is he fun do i like his personality they're not really
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preoccupied with money all that much especially the women who are in fact dating uh men around
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their age because like college guys a lot they're not they're broke too or they're not making money
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or they're in college they don't have a job or whatever yeah oh uh okay maybe we can
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do some adjustments i'm sure maybe okay i believe if you don't mind any age woman can be manipulated
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true i don't think there's an argument or a debate really here i believe the young women
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are manipulated and i believe the older women are manipulated i don't think there's one right
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side in this situation i'm gonna go neutral on the table here well i'm gonna go well how about
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this. Let me ask the women who are against age gaps. Would you rather see her? So let's use her
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as an example. Let's assume, and it's a new, this is like kind of a new developing relationship.
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Let's assume though, this guy has good intentions and she's in love with him. He's in love with her.
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They're monogamous and they date for three years. Would you rather see her in that situation or
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a situation i see a lot of women fall into would you rather see her get passed around by like 20
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dudes in college that are her age which which is more predatory i don't think those are comparable
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answer the hypothetical though okay hypothetically wait no no those are complete hold on here's how
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they're comparable do a lot of women in college fuck like 20 dudes i know i i had sex with no
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in college okay so like fine but can you can you understand that this is a fair comparison that like
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a lot of women go to college and the guys yeah yeah i'd rather her be in that which position
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look i understand there's other kind of scenarios at least answer the hypothetical as stated
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would you rather see her in a loving healthy monogamous long-term relationship with the third
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with a guy who's older than her or see her just like in the hookup blah blah blah 20 dudes which
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do you prefer what like which is less objectionable so truthfully i hope that this relationship is
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wait wait before you prattle can you answer the question i would rather see her in a loving
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relationship with the older guy well obviously like i'd rather her get like i don't wish ellie
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i hope it does work out for you truly it's just it's very common that it doesn't and i hope that
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with you going in with caution that you can get that okay uh go ahead i hope it works out for you
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i rather see you in something stable so if this guy's stable that's perfect and being passed around
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go ahead yeah um it's not about being passed around or anything but speaking from my experience
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when i was in long-term relationship all my teenage years since i was 15 i didn't go out
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with my friends i didn't go to parties i didn't create big friend groups because i was with this
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man who had already done all these things living under the same roof as him who has already gone
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through his youth that i missed out on mine you know that's like more where my concern is hold on
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you do realize uh historically humans like nightclubs partying getting like shit-faced
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and belligerent i mean we've been doing that for a long time but um do you think that that's
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necessary uh not at all i don't do that now i don't drink um but so what's wrong with a woman
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missing out on that having friends and women having friends like going out and partying
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i think that's a w if an 18 19 year old woman looks at the way that uh most of her peers move
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and she's like you know what this is degenerate these people are borderline alcoholics they're
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all doing drugs they're all fucking guys raw they're doing like casual sex uh they're doing
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all this shit i think that's a w the woman who rejects the mind virus of yeah i need to explore
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myself and i need to get fucked by 30 dudes and i get i gotta party and drink and do hood rat shit
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with my single girlfriends i did start the conversation by saying this is not about
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hooking up with random guys this is about creating your own friend group because i do you have
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friends oh yeah he doesn't stop me from having friends so okay a woman can have good be aware
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about that i don't want to do partying no no i didn't want to do the same and i still don't do
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but i found myself with a guy who already had an established friend group because he had years to
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establish this and i was just moving into his house and living his life you know because i was
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young i just want to be with this man i was living his life i didn't create my own friend group
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i didn't create my own opinions i was just this man's property you know because he was just much
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older than me and he had his whole life already built up and then when it ended i had to start
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from scratch i had to figure out what do i want to do where do i create friends you know um that
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was a problem for me in this and that's what i'm yeah it's not about fucking 20 guys i i don't
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regret that i didn't do this it's i regret that i didn't live these years i think there's a
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reason a lot of that stuff is a phase though and doesn't go into you know older adulthood i mean
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like the friend group thing is not like a phase like that i think that's what she's like fixating
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on it's just like establishing your own connections with people you are separate from yes yeah is
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curious uh just really quick i'm curious who here is more on the liberal side politically liberal
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I'm like liberal liberal but you're a liberal but you're like cool with the deportations okay
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you said which direction not not fully I feel like it's a super simple question but okay um
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are there power imbalances between white and black people yes I will yes yes okay so you
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you're a white woman and I date black and you date black men I have a family so hold on do do white
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people have systemic power in the united states yes yes okay so you're literally grooming black
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men what hold on you don't you don't believe in like the historic injustices that black people
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experience oh yeah and which and you have like massive you're you're not just white you're a
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white woman which is like the most privileged class of in the who lives in the united states
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most privileged class of people to ever exist in all of human history so like versus black people
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so hold on this is very grooming and predatory of you how am i being well it seems like you just
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predatory to well it's very predatory well if there's a power balance exists between white
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and blacks you'd agree yes but you could also say that for men and women so like they're the
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denied oh so it balances out just be gay so it's like okay men have power over women there's a
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power imbalance there but then it like flips so you're you're at your meeting in the middle
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i think for me i think that yes white people on average have more privilege and are systemically
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less oppressed than black people that's what you're asking so um do white people individually
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and systemically have more power than black people more privilege i would say like for me
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as like a white woman walking down the street or some like or okay let's give like this example
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okay say the question again do white people in the united states have more individual and systemic
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privilege and power over black people over black people more than black people yes okay so on that
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basis you must be against interracial relationships fuck no fuck no you can date who you want well
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but there's a power imbalance that exists between whites and blacks but am i using that power yeah
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you're you're a white woman how am i using that have you ever done race play and fuck no no you've
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never you've never called it you've never called the black guy the end no really no that's not
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what i grew up with black that's not what that guy told me just kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding
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i'm kidding one time a black woman asked me to do that though that's like i don't know how i feel
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i don't know how i feel about that that shit's fucked up i can't i can't do that i'm not into
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degradation but um but i don't know it's kind of like if the issue is the power imbalance
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well then we have to start scrutinizing interracial relationships okay so i would say like
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for me like when i'm talking about like power imbalance which i wouldn't even call it a power
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imbalance because i think closer to the mic oh sorry so i wouldn't call it a power imbalance
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talking about if people are systemically oppressed or not oppressed like I don't know I guess you
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could depending but and just in my personal experience in my life dating like black men
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and stuff like that growing up with black people and stuff like that like I feel like
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in my personal experience I've experienced like people being racist to like literally black people
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or, like, treating them differently simply because their skin could color right.
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Yeah, so, like, I don't even know what the fuck, like, oh, no.
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Just, to me, being, like, predatory is more so about, like, the age and shit like that
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rather than like what color you are you know because why the fuck doesn't matter what color
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we are as long as you can like recognize like where you do have privileges and be able to like
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help out where you can and like overcome those privileges like I don't know it's to me like
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like you said like if your relationship he's not predatory and he like truly loves you then what's
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the fucking issue you know what I mean the issue is where it's predatory you know what I mean or
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sexually abusive or you know what i mean like i don't know if i was a white woman and i did do
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race play or like shit like that then maybe somebody else i think there's a difference
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between the existence of a power imbalance power imbalance and the exploitation of it and that that
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might be part of this confusion um is is there are they exploiting a power imbalance that exists
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and there are many different types of power imbalances well i mean so yeah speaking of
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power imbalances so i mean i think kind of hearkening back to what we were talking about
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before um if there's just a blanket objection to like power imbalance i think that there's a
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sociological power imbalance because women are selectors women are the gatekeepers this gives
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you power so like yes so should we then insist then to like because maybe this is really predatory
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like by women because women have so much leverage when it comes to dating maybe women are the
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groomers and the predatory ones insisting men rise up to their standards and that men pay for dates
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and do all this thing. Maybe women need to like check their privilege and they need to start
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dealing with rejection. They need to start approaching men at comparable rates as men
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approach women. You got to pay for dates. You got to, you know, you, all the things you expect of
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men, maybe you got to, you know, start, start doing some of that stuff. And, uh, I don't know.
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I 100% agree. But I, again, we can assume that everyone's exploiting the power that they might
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women. Yes. Women not, well, hold on. Nobody's here is making the claim that it's everyone.
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However, like nine, I want to say 99% of women enjoy the privilege of not having to be pursuers
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in the way that men do like majority of women. It's not just majority. All women can lay back.
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All women can be more passive and men will come to you. That's the status quo. That's how it is.
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And so women can flip that on its head and they can start, you know, approaching men.
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They can move things forward sexually, but you don't.
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So you, you women sit back in your, in your thrones and it's like dating here, the pull
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It's, uh, I believe it's going to be like four up five up.
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in resources memes like this is dating i'll show you what the dating is play the the animated one
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first and then you'll just click on the next one afterwards this is dating this is a little bit
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what we're talking about here this is kind of hey it kind of looks like you uh the queen there um
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yeah that's that's how women are it's like guys got to do all the shit and y'all women are just
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sitting back kicking back play the other one or yeah that's this is dating in a nutshell
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that's dating in a nutshell right but then you're limited to just whoever approaches you
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so another upside so like 99 of women i don't know i that i to me that seems
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like yeah go initiate something with someone you're interested in do you approach men yes i do
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the ones you're interested yeah but she's an anomaly she's i don't know like i also would
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approach men obviously you're a swinger married now okay but still let's not and the porn star
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and you then okay i'm not a porn star i have approached men i've approached quite a few men
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yeah i made the first but you are you are correct yes most women do not i will give you that yeah
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i would say on average i get approached more than i do the approaching but i i do say i approach
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sometimes bro whoa you guys are downplaying this how many dms do you think you've gone your entire
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life well i'm an influencer so doesn't matter how many followers do you have 117k okay um do you
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have a brother yes i do how old is he my brother is 26 and you're 24 i'm 20 no wait my brother is
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27 i don't know she doesn't know how old her brother is uh can you tilt your mic down a little
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bit or it might be better for you to just like not have your knee up or whatever but um here's
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an interesting comparison I think sometimes you can compare the the woman's experience compare it
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to the brother's experience I think you asked your brother and I don't know if he does social media or
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if he's out there like that or whatever but even assuming you didn't do social media like you you
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were to compare like the dms that you were to get versus the dms your brother gets the attention you
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get versus the attention your brother gets i don't know maybe your brother's a major stud
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i don't know how's he do with dating i think he does fine he does okay yeah he does good he does
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okay he's always had a million fucking girlfriends like yeah yeah and i think the difference here
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though is the level of initiative or attention that comparatively speaking yeah uh even if you
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didn't have your social media following it's going to flow way more towards women than it's
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going to flow towards men because the status quo is women sit back you already get men coming to
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you there's no need for you women to have to make the you don't have to make the first move you can
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you don't have to and it's a very comfortable position to be in you don't have to deal with
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rejection generally speaking so i do want to move it on to a different topic though can you pull up
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that soup chat i'm going to have you read the soup chat most of these women do of for work
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not true continue they are taking advantage of men on regular basis but a 10-year age gap is
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an unhealthy morally wrong predatory dynamic how hypocritical and ironic oh that's okay that's
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interesting um yeah so well most of the women here i it is a little higher than our typical
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panel today but uh of of of of so four of you out of 12 okay so it's a little higher than usual
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um but uh yeah well let me ask you guys this for you two who seem to be against the age gap stuff
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is it only in certain cases okay uh are you fine with 18 year olds doing only fans no 21 year olds
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doing only things yes okay well um can 21 year olds sell to um 40 year olds 21 like the issue
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isn't necessarily like i think once you get out of your teens like it's usually those developmental
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years is where we typically have the higher concern like 21's your legal drinking age if you
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want to sell content and that when you hit 21 like i'm not going to sit here and judge you i make
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content. That's not my job to judge you. If you do it at 18 as well, that's up to you. I actually
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don't judge you as much as I judge the people purchasing your content. Also, I somewhat want
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to object to the framing. You really want to narrow in on the use of teenager because teenager
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encompasses 13, 14, 15, 16. So like not adults, they're minors, right? But like this categorization
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also applies to women who are 18, who are adults, to 19-year-olds, who they may be going into their
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second year of college. These women can sign contracts. They can drive. They can join the
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military. They can sign what you might even categorize as predatory student loans that
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leave them indebted for decades um but it is this sort of moral posturing
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because i think like it is technically technically true that 18 and 19 year old women
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are teenagers but this is a there we have to make some delineation here like a 19 year old is
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clearly not the same as a 13 year old yeah no in distinction that's very clear i think
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like i said i'm not gonna judge someone for creating a page if they decide to create a page
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and sell content at 18 or 19 years old i will however like judge a little bit on the men
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purchasing it if they're purchasing it because you look very very young to them oh that's something
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different i'm just coming back to like you're saying that like 18 and 19 year old women did
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you say they're literally children or something like that yeah i think you're like a child when
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you're 18 19 i mean you're legally an adult legally yeah you're morally 15 in denmark right
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i'm not interested in denmark it's just a drink and have sex i'm not really interested in denmark
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or whatever no offense but yeah but you're saying people can sign for student loans at that at 18
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years old yeah and you have to understand how many people regret that decision because they
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weren't better informed so the question is now is like at that age are you informed enough
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is it an educational system that maybe I have the issue with or is it that that age is what I have
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the issue with because it could be one or the other maybe the education system just doesn't
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provide enough and they seem immature to me right well I guess my my gripe here is like you're saying
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children we're using like teenager it like so it's technically true but it's sort of deliberately
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misleading uh so while like a 19 year old woman uh is it's not factually incorrect to refer to as
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a teenager it is kind of often used in this manipulative way to try to recast legal adult
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relationships um as something like inappropriate or sinister um so i don't know the framing of
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that seems to matter more than the technical accuracy um let me move it on we have a can
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have you read this one 18 year old women dating 30 year old men is wrong 18 women selling themselves
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to 30 men on of is empowering of women manipulate men all the time why don't we talk about that
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chair to shut up meg first off my name is kennedy nice to meet you but um but i would have to say
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with that because i do only fans and obviously like i probably have older people who i shit i
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don't ask everybody their age or whatever but they're literally paying me like i don't know
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I'm not one student I would be like, give me that fucking money right fucking now.
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Unless they ask for it, because I do have people who literally want me to humiliate them and make fun of them and shit like that.
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I won't do that unless you ask for that specifically.
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Well, I guess this gets into the topic of consent.
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So I guess because you would agree legally speaking, you guys might think it's icky, you would agree that 18-year-old women, as the law currently stands, can in fact consent to date, be in a relationship with, have sex with men who are in age, where it would be an age gap relationship.
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um so i guess what is the imbalance that would nullify consent
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okay maybe maybe there's maybe well i guess my question is um because you got you're a sex
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worker you do only fans correct you do only fans only fans only fans what do you guys think about
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findom is that predatory that women findom men or is it consensual it's consensual okay what what
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is that like typically is like you are humiliating for money they want you to take their money yeah
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well sometimes it goes as far as these men who i think are mentally ill um so i actually do question
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the consent factor on this uh these men have a sexual kink that they want to be some of them
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not all of them want to be bankrupted and so they could end up losing their apartment they could end
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up on the street and women will indulge men in this uh sexual gratification that creates financial
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harm for them so i actually have some objections to this um i i find it a bit objectionable the
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to some degree the findom thing it's certainly more objectionable than just like
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vanilla age gap relationships uh but i don't know what do you guys think is findom okay
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if you know the guy is going bankrupt like taking loans don't do that shit no i agree
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but then don't do you think most yeah i mean you can say that here on the podcast but like most
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women who are sex workers they're going to like y'all are fucking hustlers i had no don't don't
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let's not get it twisted your primary job as a sex worker who does only fans and offers the
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girlfriend experience or you've been dumb your job is to take as much of the money from the man's
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pocket and put it into your pocket and you're involved in sex work to begin with. I have to
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question the moral compass. I think most sex workers are going to have zero moral dilemma
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around completely bankrupting a guy. They will take these hustler women will drain a man and
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not feel bad about it. They want his money. They want the money. They want to be rich.
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they, if, if you could, you would take every single penny a man has, if he was willing to
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give it to you. So I disagree with you. Okay. Me too. Now only on the premise that there are
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actually good fin, there are bad ones and there are good ones. And a good fin dom will actually
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ask and go through consent with whoever their submissive is and understand that there are
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certain boundaries that they need to be made aware of. So yes, there are going to be bad ones
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who would absolutely just take everything from someone, but that's like saying that's every
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single person like if you look at the serious single one if you look at the serious fin doms
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there are like there's a lot of stuff and lists that they go through to actually ensure that their
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subs are not going bankrupt actually and it's just the feeling that they're but those are guidelines
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yeah but so a lot of women are dabbling in the fin dom and i don't think that they really have
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like look honestly a lot of people who engage in sex work i don't think they have a particularly
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strong like guiding moral ethic here so yeah a lot of them most of these women are like heard
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some stories oh i drain i drain their bank accounts i'm gonna bankrupt them um gonna drain
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your wallet all this shit it's like am i really supposed to believe that women who who
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advertise that they're going to bankrupt men and they're they want to drain their wallet
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basically pretend to date these dudes with the and and they're hoping that they have a chance with
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you a lot of these men are very lonely and they don't have a lot of romantic prospects maybe
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they're fucking autistic or they you know they they don't have uh women in the picture and you'll
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drain them for fucking everything look i'm not saying all the sex workers do this but a lot of
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y'all if you're going to be honest you might not admit it uh you're going to pretend that you're
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interested in that guy so you can siphon as much fucking money from him as possible i think the
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ethical like honestly i just think that when people say ethical fin dom they just don't want
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him to go bankrupt too soon so that he can make more money to spend on her over time i disagree
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yeah i mean if unless you're speaking from firsthand experience which i don't think you
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are i don't think you are either from firsthand experience uh like you've never been fin dom do
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don't know what the process is like so it's just like i'm gonna fendom you guys if anybody has any
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cash go give me cash right now no no no well would you rather would you rather a guy spend all his
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money on you and have nothing left or no or over time it builds up and it's like an investment so
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you don't take it all at once you let him you let him recover so that he can like well like i said
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this is stuff you go through with them it's the same with the girlfriend experience like if i'm
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selling a girlfriend experience if you look at the rates of men who have had sex in the u.s and
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that they have dropped like drastically men having sex women having sex both but you don't fuck the
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guys it's actually very very low but i'm saying they're lonely so they come for this experience
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because they can't talk to women in person so you're i'm not saying it's the perfect solution
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but i bet you those men would argue that it's better than zero contact is that grooming i don't
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know about i know i don't know about that it seems to be taking advantage of someone in a very
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vulnerable position it might seems a bit predatory maybe like maybe a bit grooming but i i think i
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do look let me ask you guys a question i don't think you'll i don't think you'll answer honestly
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say a guy has a thousand dollars to spend on you are you gonna voluntarily be like you know what
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just send me 500 are you going to be like and he's open to sending you the thousand he's open
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to sending you the thousand you're telling me i'm a stone look i'm a stone cold killer businessman
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if somebody's offering me a thousand i'm taking the course not as a set to be clear i'm not a
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sex worker i'm gonna be like yes give me the thousand you are telling me sex workers are
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going to benevolent sex workers no just send the 500 that's okay no but there's you sex workers
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are stone cold hustlers you're gonna take fucking everything of course but i'm not gonna send him
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into a loan he has 1000 i'm not asking him to fucking if he has to okay take a fucking mortgage
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but like spend money on me because he wants his wallet drained and he's fucked up in the head okay
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it's also the end goal like what is my i've had someone offer me 12k and i could take the 12k at
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once i could take it over time i'm not going to take 12 000 from someone at up front just because
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i already know that that's the end of the relationship and i'd rather prolong that
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relationship that's what i'm saying like talk to me in that i would take no you take you take the
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12 and then i've never done that i would take can i say something uh sure i feel like all this should
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just be shut down all these men are mentally ill and why would you guys want to associate with
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You could say the same thing about a 32-year-old Daytona 18.
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No, but, like, these are really mentally ill people.
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Wait, your position is if we don't allow Fyndom...
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I'm saying OnlyFans as a whole, because we also discussed the girlfriend experience.
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And if we shut every access down for a man, their suicide rates are much higher than women.
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Then you would kill such a large population.
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sphincter what the fuck damn bro all right thank you guys appreciate it oh my god they're on fire
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aquacat thank you for the prime boys thank you for the gifted five spartan thank you for the
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prime appreciate it guys thank you for all the support okay uh we're gonna do uh gorlok the
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destroyer uh on a scale of zero to ten rate your own looks face body total you can't pick seven
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so i'm going to demonstrate how i want you to respond and i'll rate myself 4.5 face 4.5 body
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4.5 total uh so structure your responses like that starting with you go ahead microphone
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i think i have like an eight face okay next like body seven body
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total eight okay what about you um i would do eight face 6.5 bodies okay like i don't know what
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that is like 7.2 total sure something what about you um i think i have a 6.5 face and my body is
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like 7.5 so my total is i don't know i can't all right uh seven i guess um next five face uh six
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body 5.5 total all right next uh six face six bodies six total next i would go 6.5 body six
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face so 6.25 total okay and mike mike mike mike mike come up um nine for face and
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eight face five body what was the other one just your total total so
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nine face you said no no no i said eight oh eight face and five body yes
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i gave myself three three face three face three body total three okay what about you
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um i would say my face is like a 4.5 and my body for sure is like a three
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so wait you sorry you said 4.5 face yeah okay next i'd say eight face six body total seven
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average all right what about you uh six face eight body six face eight body okay uh i give
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myself 4.5 face 4.5 body 4.5 total all right uh no tens at the table tonight um what an unfortunate
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Do you guys want me to give you guys my rating?
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if you want to become a master debater okay back to this uh let's see here so um okay uh i guess
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we'll do splits on this uh you you gave yourself an eight face you've kind of got like a cameron
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diaz thing going on i don't know if you know who that is yeah i know yeah uh a little bit a little
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bit. Interesting. Is your hair naturally blonde? No. You dye it? Yeah. So you're brunette? Dark
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brown. Yeah. Yeah. You got, I think you, you should go, go back to dark hair. Yeah. Some
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people say that blue eyes, dark hair is kind of the superior. Okay. All right. Rating. I
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gotta give the rating of course uh hmm turn your face that way other way uh i think i give you
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do you have lip filler uh yeah lip flip yeah both of them yeah lip flip and lip filler
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the lip flip only lasts like a couple months so any other plastic surgery or cosmetics or
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no the only thing i got was lip filler no botox or anything and you're 22 you said
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uh i think i put you uh maybe between six and seven so i think we arrive at like 6.5
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in that range i'd yeah and this is just a face rating uh i think six six to seven wait
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oh my god fucking zoomer shit okay uh yeah i think i i'd probably air closer to 6.5 to 7
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so in that range uh you okay well you're wearing quite a bit of makeup and do you have fake freckles
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on or are those tattoos i have tattoos they're tattooed freckles yeah okay and you're doing the
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nose contouring and the fake fake lashes without makeup i just took i don't know i i don't know
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It's hard when a woman's wearing very stylized makeup and then a good amount of makeup for me to be accurate.
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I don't want to say anything, you know what I mean?
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I'm older than the average person that comes on here probably.
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Well, you produced a very lovely, beautiful daughter.
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So, yeah, I think you're 58 because I kind of do the rating a little bit on the age range, too.
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I'll give you, I don't even want, I don't even want to do a rating.
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Do you have photos of you when you're like 30 or something?
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My hair was really long and blonde, but my natural hair is black.
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Maybe I'll tell you when I'm 60, how about that?
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um you know you can i see the double biceps because you got this way away you got coming
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from when she's blocking she's blocking stand up stand up stand up double bicep do you see that
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vein it's a sleeper wait do the tricep show the tricep uh stand up again like that turn that way
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that's too much flex your arm flex it down there you go she's not doing it right but okay
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all right bro she's got bigger biceps than me shit no just kidding i still i still mug bicep
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uh but okay um all right and you said your physique is better than the face i guess but
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i'm just judging on looks uh let's see any surgeries cosmetic lip filler any lip flip
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anything like that botox nope uh i think for your so you're you gave yourself a five and you're 39
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i actually think for your age you slightly underrated yourself i'd put you for your age
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demographic i think i put you at 5.5 okay congratulations thank you i am not a dickhead
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i'm not a jerk right see i could have been like okay whatever uh i'm unbiased all right we've got
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the danish giant over here she'll give she'll uh she'll do you have any plastic surgery lip filler
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fake tits okay yeah figured uh any botox lip flip no lip filler turn your head that way
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i guess i can see that nose job okay you gave yourself a six
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i might put you at six that six i think six is good
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excuse me uh six she she's a six she calls herself a six i don't know what do you maybe
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6.5 she's like six foot tall she's got she's got a nice smile nice teeth good lips your mid face
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is long though you have a long face i know i'm long like right so yeah so yeah i give you know
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i think she's maybe between a six and a seven in that range um yeah and like yeah uh maybe 6.5 is a
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You're a different kind of ginger, though.
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Has anybody ever told you you look like Axl Rose?
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Like young Axl Rose, but like a chick version.
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You know, Guns N' Roses, and he's in the leather pants doing his.
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you kind of does she not look like axel rose can you be axel rose for halloween please yes okay
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all right she's gonna be like the girl from super bad um oh uh that's a compliment i'm a stone okay
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a little bit she does actually she kind of mogs i'm a stone not gonna lie okay you
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you gave yourself a what a six i give you a 4.25
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tina here who's had a couple plastic surgery operations since i last saw her
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right have you had anything done what closer to the scoot into the do you have a tina do you have
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a bbl no okay sure were you looking well she's she strutted by me when i was up over there
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okay and i glanced for half a second do you have the the hip injections or whatever you've got
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something should we ladies does she have a little something something tina you have fake boobs too
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right no it's real it's real okay wait is this i don't know if this is inappropriate
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i'll close my eyes tina you stand up and i want the women to to say if they think it's there's
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something going on down there like a what's what's a bbl but there's there's like fat transfer do you
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have fat transfer do you okay let me frame it like this do you have any procedure in the region
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that is around your caboose really do i have any black okay huh no i only have plastic surgery on
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face okay i'm gonna cover my eyes i want the women to tell me and then i guess you stand up
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and do a spin are you okay with that she she oh she wants she's been waiting for attention
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wait hold on her wait motherfucker wait hold on hold on tina are you wearing underwear
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are you wearing underwear tina yes wait can you can you put the thing so it's like covering your
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I'm pretty sure I saw her underwear and shit.
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turn around, I guess. I don't know. Turn around.
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when china eventually overcomes becomes a the world power i don't want to rate you poorly
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because i feel like you're gonna send some assassins or some shit tina you're the only
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10 uh no just kidding tina you gave yourself a six oh shit my bad i fucked up i was reading
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You got a lot of, I feel like you got a lot of work.
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Can you scoot into the table a little bit just so?
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Here, I'm not trying to get a panty shot going.
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I feel like if you took off makeup, I could do this.
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Well, you know, it's a little lower than Beijing.
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look maybe in the cities what's the different well it's like you know like if you're in i do
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you know idaho the state in the u.s so you can be a 10 in idaho but you're a six in los angeles
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never mind i don't know how to explain it does anybody speak mandarin no i give you a beijing
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So of course you would have a thing for an Asian woman
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i don't it's you're in a vtuber you're definitely okay but i don't act on it if you say so
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that's not what i heard through the wait you're bisexual but you don't act on
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what what the fuck does that mean a guy who's gay he's like i'm gay but i don't act on it
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i guess that makes sense uh okay you you gave yourself um you know look i i think tina has
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Really quick, Tina, because I feel like she's upset.
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Do you think I would kill it in China, or no?
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If I lost a bit of weight, maybe I could kill it in Beijing, though.
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shanghai i don't know i think you're the beard you're zero in shanghai shanghai i'm a zero in
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shanghai well you know i'm look it's hard it's hard you know because you gotta be you look you
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can't be chubby in in some of these asian countries like that's a no go you can't be fat
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like it doesn't i do have blue eyes though and i'm white so maybe that helps a little bit i don't
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okay anyways no shit i'm fucked i'm fucked all right well there goes my trip to china
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uh wow i was gonna kick it with your dad is your dad single no he's married i have a step mouth
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okay uh you gave yourself an eight eight face
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i would have to disagree i'm 46 i've had no work done in my entire life i give you a 4.3
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okay you gave yourself a three big underrate big underrate at minimum five at minimum five
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huge underrate i don't know if you're just being modest um i think too many women come on here and
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like overrate themselves yeah but you shouldn't intentionally underrate yourself like three is
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that's ugly okay well then maybe i'd say four but no you're you're at least a five i think
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i think i have room to improve i don't think well sure but uh i think i think you might be 5.5
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i give you 5.5 okay so big underrate there with the three 4.5 for my favorite torta
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there in the corner 4.5 i think i i give you a four we got my russian home girl you gave yourself
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an eight uh there's a stiff competition with the russian women i gotta tell you
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tight sitting here and you want to sit on my forehead
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uh i think i give you you gave yourself a six i think you're around there i think i'd give you
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maybe six point five uh six point five yeah okay good talk all right that's the ratings uh you
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wanted to rate me oh boy i was really thinking you were a three that's the number that really
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came to me but is that so is that vindictive no i was thinking about it while you were doing all
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You think you and I are on the same... What did I give
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let me be honest though so i'm a little chubby right now but even chubby brian no offense
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i mug the shit out of you facially no no fuck yes i'm gonna call you out on that no i don't
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rate myself super high but i definitely rate you way lower than me i'm so sorry
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like i said i don't rate myself super high but i definitely do put you above myself i'm gonna
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call you out on your shit right there absolutely not oh you can't look everybody has their everybody
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has their own uh opinions i'm not offended people can think they're more less attractive that's
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totally fine what i'm interested in exploring though at least for you yeah you gave yourself
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an eight facially and you gave me a three so this is the dating marketplace that men are dealing with
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where and she's 46 right um and she's like look i'm a little chubby i'm not trying to say
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be this you're obese like i'm not saying that to be offensive and you are too i believe
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perhaps i don't know not perhaps you are well so i i don't know if i actually strictly fall
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into obesity even if i am then you're morbidly obese and i'm obese i guess if i'm not morbidly
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obese i've been following the chart how much do you weigh dear i weigh 179 pounds
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that's a lie that has to be i mean we have a fucking scale almost the same i mean look maybe
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it's true how tall are you i'm five foot six there's no way i'm gonna be honest i wait i
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weigh 207 and i'm 5'4 and i got a fat ass are you down to wait are you down to go on the scale
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no we have a fucking scale i'm not gonna be humiliated on what's not humiliating it's not
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humiliation it's just like yeah no i'm not gonna do that okay in any case but are you fatter than
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me i don't think we can really tell bro hold on i guess we're this let's just say we're this
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first of all first of all okay well where are you going with this tell me where you're going well
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i guess where i'm where i'm going with it is i find it interesting like this is what men are
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dealing with and this is one of the reasons i asked this question what do you rate your own
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looks as because i think a lot of women uh not all women but a lot of women view themselves as
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actually more attractive than they actually are and they're going to like zero out men who are
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actually sometimes better looking than them or who are on their league so in this case your
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assessment like look i feel like a lot of women a lot of women do this sisterhood thing where it's
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like i don't think any of you are going to be comfortable actually calling her out on her
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bullshit she rates herself an eight in facially like hold on so okay i mean here's my scale five
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is average six is cute seven is beautiful eight is um eight is wait hold on uh wait wait i think
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i got this five is average six is cute seven is i think no seven is pretty eight is beautiful nine
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is like elite elite god tier models like top tier models um you there's no way you're ever like
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going to be assessed as more like as even above average right i was going on you know my everyday
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life people tell me very often you're very pretty bruh you know and i get those compliments pretty
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often okay so your mom tells you no random people tell me that actually okay random people tell
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you're very beautiful skin okay hold on thank you so much do you guys think men are liars
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no wait okay well hold on y'all never seen bro let me spit some game here you go to a fat woman's
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instagram page you look at the comment section oh my god you're so beautiful slay queen i wish
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i looked like you you're so beautiful blah blah blah like bro that's true like just because
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we have to separate people saying kind things to you and the truth the just like objective truth
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i agree and i'm the torta here so okay w torta barbie i mean this with all the best
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if you go to a big girls instagram you will see all her girlfriends and a few nigerian guys that
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are like simping like it's always the black guys to pick up a slap they loved it yes black men
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fuck i would say like uh asian people have a different type of different definition of skinny
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than white people do black people have a different definition of skinny than white people do
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that i just gotta say but if you watch like what is this show called 90 days fiance it's always
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like a nigerian would like like really wait tilt your mic down a little bit because it's too high
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i mean i'm talking to a nigerian and okay but but i guess uh i guess the issue here is so i mean
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maybe i can open up to the table but look i've been adversarial this whole show women have in
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group bias with themselves she gives herself an eight in face she gives me a three that's a five
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point differential in attractiveness do the women at the table genuinely believe just like be
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objective do you think she's settling settling for me if we were to date by five points if we're
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strictly looking on looks no yeah yeah if it strictly looks like i don't yeah just look i
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would put her at the same rating at the same level so but you are older you are older so it's
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not it's not as comparable but like i would put you closer yeah okay so it's like it's a fair
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it's it's equal right probably based on our weights right chuck then thinner people are
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more attractive do you okay i agree with that i do agree with that i say i'm chubby all the time
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on the show do the women here genuinely think that we have comparable body fat percentage
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like you're obviously have a higher body fat percentage than me this is just like
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take off your sweatshirt i'm not going to do that but well why not uh because i'm because
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you really can't see in a sweatshirt well before the show started i was in a t-shirt
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okay yeah and like but anyways what's the purpose i'm really not trying to dig in the
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knife on this but i don't know why you're even like no but i think it's just very like for
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example i think the whole thing is humiliating it's not i think it's humiliating to go around
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the room and do ratings on women we can get into that and i've rated you based on your energy too
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i'm a confident woman i have good energy and i also rated myself higher based on that
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and honestly the question is about your energy is a lower energy to me
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and i did base it on that too because you put out an aura field uh you put your face your face puts
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out an auric field and she'll tell you about it do you understand where i'm coming from do that
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yes uh yes you know what this is so true you know uh chair one chair two there's some chair chair
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five you know um they if if their vibes were really bad and you were just like you know you're
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going to be assessed as more attractive than her than her than her because the vibes are better
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or how about it's the case that even a woman who's a massive fucking bitch and she's beautiful
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uh she's still beautiful even though she's being a bitch a bitch so i understand that like yeah
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that plays into your overall attraction when we're having a cop yeah but when we're talking
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strictly about looks maybe it plays a little bit like if there's a vibrant smile and this sort of
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thing versus a woman who has resting bitch face and a scowling that plays a little bit into it
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but if that same woman smiles and then uh i don't even i don't it's crazy that i have to explain
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this holy shit i don't think you understand the metaphysical the fuck does that mean what the
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fuck are you doing i don't think you understand i really don't energy is a big part of attractiveness
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the men love high vibe high energy women positive vibration women they find them beautiful they find
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men that have bad energy low vibration they find them ugly as fuck i'll tell you what i find you
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very ugly because of your vibration i'm just being honest you're just mad because i'm calling you out
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i'm being honest because you demean women a lot and i don't like that okay well let's get into
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each of these claims individually. So first off, I think we need to start with this delusion that
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like, do you think, okay, let me ask you a question. A morbidly obese, I'm talking 500
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pound woman goes to a nightclub and she's got the nicest personality and she's the most vibrant
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person ever. Uh, versus you put her, her, her in a nightclub and they're a little standoffish and
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a little in terms of assessments of physical attractiveness do you think the morbidly obese
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woman gets appraised as more physically attractive than any of these three women i think you know the
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answer to that question how about you but don't compare me to that you can't compare
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i like seriously what do you mean just what i said you can't compare that no but i'm answer
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the hypothetical i don't need to it's irrelevant it's completely it's completely irrelevant it
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makes it's completely relevant it makes sense because for me it doesn't exteriorly when you
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see somebody right that's what you're either drawn to okay fine so you don't want to engage
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with the hypothetical of using this like really obese woman who's like 400 pounds um so would
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you agree with this that yes the men would find these three women more attractive these three
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So you and the club, with the most vibrant, exuberant, positive energy ever,
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do you think you outcompete her, her, or her in a nightclub?
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you could try that doesn't answer the question do you out compete them
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for the men in the club i haven't been to a club in years maybe at that age i'm 46 now i don't go
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to clubs oh i went to many night it doesn't matter answer it's a hypothetical could i out
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compete them at 46 that is your current status yes right that's obvious what's the purpose of
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the question it's all can you out compete them i can't out compete them but you said but you said
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the vibes kind of matter like i don't understand you can out compete the vibes are very important
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yes the nightclub not at a nightclub fucking nowhere well maybe they'll just sit there and
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not go up to people maybe i would approach people and have more luck actually at a nightclub though
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people are gonna be very like judgmental they just look at dating app physically
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anywhere like holy fuck yeah holy shit do none but i don't think that made i don't think you
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want to i don't think that made us feel good i don't think that made any of us feel good you
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doing already i don't think this podcast is about feeling good no we all can say to it like i have
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to agree with his rating but that's what he thinks and that's right and that is it is your podcast
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but I don't agree with you rating women on it.
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How is that a positive thing when you rate women?
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and that the rest of you are 20 pounds underweight.
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That's, the rest of you are 20 pounds underweight, so they're too skinny.
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But I do want to investigate some of the claims here that were made.
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So I think you were saying that I, I forgot exactly what you said, that I demean women?
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I feel it's very demeaning to go around a table like this and rate women.
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that does not make us feel good you guys might say you don't care but deep down well it is
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demeaning i don't think it's demeaning i disagree okay that's fine you should i disagree well okay
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so the burden of proof is on you you would have to establish that like why is it demeaning but
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let me ask you a couple questions would you date a guy who is shorter than you
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i prefer not i prefer not what did you write here i prefer a six foot tall man how tall are you
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You're 5'5", so one inch above the average female height.
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I did have a husband that was 5'8", and most of my men are over six feet.
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But you wrote here that the minimum height of a man you would date is six feet.
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But I don't have strong preferences for other things.
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I'm not saying I wouldn't date a guy under six, but my preference is above six.
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So, I find this interesting that you object to...
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So, okay, the facial rating is based on various facial aesthetic cues.
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This is facial symmetry, facial harmony, skin clarity, certain other characteristics, interpupillary distance.
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It is a measurement of the sort of the amalgamation of all the positive or negative characteristics that someone possesses as it relates to their face.
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You have a preference when it comes to dating certain men related to their height, which is a literal measurement.
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The minimum height, this is what you wrote, minimum height of a man has to be six feet.
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how is this not any difference like so you're looking at the man and you're assessing him
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and it's off of this completely superficial thing of his height how is that this not different like
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so okay you would look at me i'm six foot you would look at me and you would be like he's six
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foot how is this different and and that that would like i'm not saying you date me of course not
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but like a guy who's six feet you would look at him and you would use that measurement the
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numerical measurement to determine whether or not you would date him okay but that wasn't my point
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my point was why do you have to go around the table doing face ratings on us it's a segment
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that does not make women feel good i'm not my job this is not a kumbaya session so but why do you do
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it are you are you projecting because you're insecure and you're trying to make women feel
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insecure because that's the vibe that i get from you uh so okay you can okay all right well could
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you explain that what's your purpose yeah tell me your purpose of doing that to women yeah so it's
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not projection i'm obviously what is it then yeah you need to shut up if you're going you're a real
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comedian i'm trying to be funny but you've you're interrupting me so i'm trying to answer your
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question okay so if you keep chiming in i'm happy to answer your question and engage with your
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question look you don't need to be i just don't know what your mother did to you to make you act
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this way i really don't hey you guys need to be quiet um i don't i don't understand i'm not sure
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why bringing my mother into this is relevant that seems a bit inappropriate for the conversation
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it's based on the way you treat women my mother's fantastic i love i love my mother i have a sister
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i don't know what you what's been done to you to make you treat women that way that's all i said
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uh what are you suggesting you know what i'm suggesting i don't know look at the look at
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your show i don't know why don't you be an adult and articulate with your words what you're
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suggesting karma keeps receipts that's what i'm suggesting oh my god this chick is fucking insane
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no i'm telling you listen karma karma listen okay what is the karma that is owed to me then
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oh i think you know that how have you been how have you been treating women on your show answer
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need to put it on me. You know all the answers.
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All the times that you have demeaned and made a woman feel inferior, it's all coming back.
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Okay, how? Like, are women going to be immune to me?
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Oh, we don't know what's going to happen. Karma's a bitch.
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This woman actually wants, like, violence done to me.
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I don't. I want justice because I support women and I love women. And it's very disappointing
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to see people out there like justice. Well, I want it to be brought. I want the abuse to
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be brought to the surface. Oh, emotional abuse. Absolutely. Oh, okay. Interesting. Let's let's
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what is abuse? Abuse can be demeaning a woman. Absolutely. Disagreeing with women is abuse.
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Okay, you're going to have to articulate how I'm abusive towards women.
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Disagreeing with how attractive a woman is is not abusive.
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Especially when women come on the podcast and are familiar with the program
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I don't think disagreeing with a woman's looks.
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By the way, I pointed out that some of the women underrated themselves.
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So I corrected, like, for example, the woman next to you, she called herself a three.
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My goal here is not to just be like, you're an ugly bitch.
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I'm going to be as unbiased as possible in my looks rating assessments.
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I'm like, no, you're more attractive than that.
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If you look at a lot of your content, you're humiliating women.
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viewers is that true or untrue he says he doesn't humiliate women on this show
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is that true or untrue viewers he's lying right here at the table in front of all of us do you
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know how logic works the burden of proof is on you to prove the claim you're just watch all of
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your shows that's just okay that's my opinion you need to back up your claim with evidence
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what is what is your evidence for the claim you just watch the shows and you'll that's not an
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argument the show like yeah very often but i i don't feel that way and i okay i come from like
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a woman's point of view i don't i don't feel that way okay okay do any of the other women want to
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chime in you want to chime in you want to chime in good yeah i i disagree as well okay this is
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business you know for for him me as well i guess multiple people here like he has to harvest all
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the good clips harvest all the well i reject that framing what about you me russia oh me
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you wanted to chime in i don't feel humiliated or degraded in any way i came here go ahead i don't
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feel like that i think you're just being honest yeah yeah see i think your issue is is that
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nobody's ever disagreed with you no one's ever told you no and so look realistically this no
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one's ever disagreed with me yeah what do you can you explain that more what do you mean by that
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yeah i mean perhaps that's a bit hyperbolic obviously like the multiple men you've divorced
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or whatever have disagreed with you on things um however look i think sometimes the world is not
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going to be kumbaya yeah that's a perfect example i felt like you made her i i would have felt
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inferior if that was me if he would have made that comment to me what did i that she was kumbaya
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remember that in the beginning there was some negative connotation there and i was like wow
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Could you please be honest and, like, back me up on this?
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I do kind of consider myself to be kind of a hippie, so.
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But it was a negative connotation, the way you talked to her.
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Wasn't that, like, you're just one of these kumbaya hippie people.
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why is it bad to be okay but so hold on do you think when we move through the world and we move
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through life that everything is going to be positive it should be we attract what we speak
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we should be speaking positive affirmations politics i do not talk about politics or religion
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so you i do not you don't talk about it or but do you have politics no i don't get involved with
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politics politics is staged to me where's the soundboard whoa yeah no i do not i do and that's
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and that's a low vibration people that talk about religion all the time in politics oh right they're
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in like a reiki is much better they're they're like in a low vibrational field they're so obsessed
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with it they're manic about their religion their politics no wait i try to be a very balanced
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person i'm very political politics control every single aspect of our hold on hold on hold on hold
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i want to do a little vibe check because she's saying the vibe do you feel like like we've been
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here for nearly five hours now do you feel like she's talking about like the vibes creating good
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vibes or whatever do you think that she's been like more of a buzz kill in the past like 10-15
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minutes or me like throughout the course of the podcast um but just been standing up for women
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i'm opening that up to the i think are the women panelists not going to voice it's not yours is
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not positive right now especially when you said his mom which is irrelevant like can we agree
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wait let me ask the women panel here so you might object to something many of you might very much
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disagree with my positions you might find them perhaps even objectionable you might disagree
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with my looks ratings comparatively speaking did i have i said anything have i said anything
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as egregious as the comment that she said to me about my mother no no no okay well then like is
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Is that taking shit to another level when you involve somebody's parents?
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Well, it's just, I just question, like, what's happened to you to where you make women feel inferior?
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There's some trauma that you have that you haven't dealt with.
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Well, it's disrespectful for you to keep interrupting me.
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I'm not on enough HGH for that, but maybe one day.
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The way you treat people, the way your energy field is.
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I'm just being honest something happened to you for you to project so like this okay what happened
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to me I I don't know what happened to you I don't know what happened to you to hate I've been through
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trauma I don't hate men I just pick healthy men to be around at this time I've been around toxic
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men in my life I choose to be around healthy men now yeah I mean so essentially what you're doing
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is just asserting a bunch of your your goal here is not to have substantive conversation you just
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want to throw out things to just be uh egregious and just insulting this idea that you're going to
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like attack my parents is completely i never said i was going to attack you literally did
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i should have said mother but you know what i should have said is what woman did something to
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you what woman did something you did say my mother though i should have said maybe what
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well like who goes through life without having some degree of like romantic um heartbreak or
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something right right but actually i i can sit here and maybe you this might be a surprise to
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you i've dated wonderful women there's i had one girlfriend that was a little you know whatever
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uh and perhaps i maybe i'm an outlier on this most of the women i've dated i've been in multiple
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long-term relationships it didn't work out in the end but they were great women i wish nothing for
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the best of them so this idea that i have substantial trauma like i can tell you many
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positive things about the women i used to date so i think you're projecting to be honest i am just
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calling it out i don't think any woman's ever called you out probably women come up hold on
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women come on the show and disagree with me all the time you're just being belligerent okay you're
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just being completely belligerent you know you're belligerent no i'm not i didn't tell you to shut
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up you were the first person to tell me to shut up what's worse that is so fucking disrespectful
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to tell a woman to shut up okay what's worse what's more disrespectful like trying to imply
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that there was like abuse from the parents it's disrespectful to go around and do a face rating
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on the women that's how i feel i have a question they all wait i literally asked and you all
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agreed they everyone was like yeah do it but you never answered why do you do it what's the purpose
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i literally did but what's the purpose of doing it it's not it's not a positive thing why don't
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you do positive things on your show because you want more ratings you do realize it's all
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controversial right you do realize positivity that which was rating her higher you know you do
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realize one thing right can i ask you i just want you to be a more positive person if you can
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that's all i'm asking my job do more positive things okay so my job my job here is not to
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affirm every position that women hold i have my own worldview and perspective and that's sometimes
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worldview. Right. I'm giving you some constructive
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I want you to be. Is it constructive criticism?
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things are going to happen to you. I don't even though
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I would never tell any of you I want bad things
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to happen. I don't want bad things to happen. You literally do.
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i do not i love you i'm a healer i want only good for you okay don't don't tell me to shut
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up again for the podcast i don't give a fuck don't tell me to shut up you care you don't tell
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hey you don't tell a woman to shut up i just did i just did look at you it's my podcast you need
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to stop interrupting okay it's your podcast so what i'm a guest on your podcast we have freedom
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of speech you're in my spot you're in my podcast i'd be happy to leave this space to be quite honest
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Well, perhaps I might oblige you on that in a moment.
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Because this is not really my vibe, to be honest.
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However, it's interesting to me when you, there was a degree and I was noticing, I was paying attention very closely.
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When you were saying the thing of retribution, karma's coming your way, you said so not as a matter of fact, but with a certain level of rejoice and glee.
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My whole plan for you is to just be a more positive person and stop putting women down.
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I'm just trying to make you aware, if you're not already, that we all have karma based on what we put out.
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newton's third third law for every action there is a reaction if you keep putting in humiliating
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people that reaction is going to come back to you i only want the best for you i want you to know
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that i want you to be a good person so are you going to get are you going to receive karma for
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the comment you made about my mother no it's karmic retribution what do you mean karmic
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retribution she's telling you before she does it uh okay i think um this podcast obviously i'm a
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liberal i don't think he is we have a lot of disagreeing points and stuff like that the point
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of this podcast is to have hot takes and like controversial topics and stuff like that it's
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to debate this is a debating podcast you know but why why do we need this in the world it's just
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negative the controversy I don't think there's positive in like being able to I personally think
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I think you look at it as a negative light but I think there's so much positive in being able to
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sit down and have a productive conversation understand where he's coming from have him
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understand where I'm coming from and I think you're going to be able to achieve that better
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and like get him to understand your point of view better if you were to able to have a productive
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conversation but right now you're just yelling right and so it's not he's not gonna take anything
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in like let's be real when somebody sits here and yells at my fucking face I'm not fucking
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listening to you you want to you want me to get your point have a conversation with me yeah and
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I think that's like what he's just trying to get I just don't agree with this show at all then why
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are you here yeah you know I like I said I like I said it all turned out to where I came here to
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just speak how I felt but I don't feel like I don't watch the news it's negative I don't get
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involved in religion and politics why are people sitting home watching these controversies it's
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all low vibe keeps you in a fearful low vibration i think i don't i don't agree with this so you can
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you can okay sit there and look i just let you speak i think people should do positive things
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yes i'll just i just let you speak i did not interrupt you that was my turn now please don't
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interrupt as you've been doing i won't interrupt as long as it doesn't get abusive emotionally
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abusive then i won't interrupt go ahead this is this is why i like the believe all women shit
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where they're they're like uh she's claiming that you're you're in a penthouse studio talking about
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various dating topics there's snacks back there there's chocolate back there i'm sure you're
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happy about that and you're trying to suggest okay that was that was a bad comment no that was a joke
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I'm going to defer to the comedian if she's going to grant that as a joke.
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Anyways, well, I would like it, too, because I'm chubby also.
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I think it's going to be like I think there needs to be a bar to what constitutes abuse.
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me saying things that may be offensive which i'm i'm willing to grant or me saying things that you
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disagree with perhaps even strongly does not rise to the level of abuse now if i was sitting here
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and for the entirety of the podcast i was like you're a dumb bitch dumb bitch dumb bitch dumb
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bitch and i was like continuously like you're fucking retarded like and i was really digging
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into you guys for the entirety of the show, you might have an argument there that that might be
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some sort of verbal or emotional abuse. However, aside from joking moments, I'm usually never
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resorting to personal attacks or personal insults. I almost, even if somebody is like kind of not
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being logical or I disagree with them, I'm usually never resorting to personal attacks or calling
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people stupid i'm always typically for the most part dealing with the actual arguments that are
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being made it's not abusive to disagree with somebody even strongly you can't rate abuse
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yes you can no you cannot well okay what is the threshold for abuse each person has their own
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threshold i disagree there has to be some objective metric there's not there's not you what you think
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is abuse is maybe not no there's definitely levels of abuse especially when it comes to children
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right right i'm talking about emotional abuse right now i think that there has to be some
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threshold otherwise you might not think your jokes are abusive but your jokes are abusive
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there's truth behind all jokes here okay they're not jokes there's truth behind all jokes i i want
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to ask the women at the table. Now, I might have said things tonight that you disagree with. I
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might have said things that maybe even be a bit offensive, right? Do you think anything that I've
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said tonight rises to the level of what you believe to be the threshold of abuse?
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Raise your hand if you feel like I've met the threshold of abusive conduct. Raise your hand.
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Well, you do, right? You think I've been abusive.
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You and I have had a communication that has turned abusive, absolutely.
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You feel that I was abusive towards you with the mother comment, and then I do feel like you have made some abusive comments towards me, absolutely.
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You're putting words in my mouth, so while I find your comment egregious, I wouldn't consider it abusive.
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I wouldn't consider it abusive. It's pretty bad taste and a bit egregious, but no, I wouldn't
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consider it abusive. I don't think it meets the threshold of abuse. Now, here, let me do it
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differently. Women at the table, raise your hand if you feel as if I have not been abusive. I've
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not met the threshold raise them high so look unless i've by the way a lot of these women
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disagree with me unless i've brainwashed all these women right they all disagree with you
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okay well guess what you don't care for me i was i used you you have been abusive towards me your
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comments you're telling me to shut up is him telling me to shut up not abusive well first
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off the shut up then there's something wrong with this table honestly i think then you guys have
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something really wrong with you if you don't think it's abusive for a man to tell you to shut up then
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there is something wrong it doesn't matter it doesn't matter i'm willing to look i am not
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oblivious to sometimes my own conduct, I'm willing to say it was rude. However, I would
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caveat it with the fact that you were interrupting. You were kind of, uh, I was debating
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that happens during debate. Let me finish. So what? So what? Interruptions can happen.
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It's a little different, but then the shut ups didn't start until, uh, you kind of laid in there
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with the mother comment so i feel like i'm a matching energy kind of guy right um you know
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her i disagree with a lot of what she says didn't tell her to shut up wasn't rude to her well you
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know i might have been a little strong or stern with my conveyance of my beliefs but i i believe
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in matching energy so if somebody that's what i did too i agree but i didn't like you going around
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the table doing the ratings. I matched your energy after you did that.
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Your matching energy is I didn't agree with your
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my rating. I was thinking about all of the people at
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this table and how they must have felt being rated.
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Can I say something? I genuinely thought, I was like at first, oh man
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I was what I already think of myself so I'm not offended by it I I'm gonna be honest I think you're
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bothered because it's not what you said your energy has nothing to do with what you look like
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and the outside you know what I mean we can all feel you know I identify as a size four that's
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straight up you know is every is he gonna agree that I identify as a size four no right well I'm
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basing it on the feedback i'm getting i've got jen i've got the young kids i have people telling
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me mom please don't go on that podcast all he does is humiliate women i mean to be fair he gave me a
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much lower rating and like i disagreed with him that's all i'm saying don't find it abusive like
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i'm not offended that's his opinion and that's okay i didn't say that was abusive but i'm just
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saying he humiliates women on this podcast well again okay and so okay but you you know this so
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You can move on to your next subject if you want.
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Well, you're not the host, so I am going to move on here pretty soon.
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Because that's going to stick in my head that he called me a Karen.
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I'm going to go get therapy after this for you calling me a Karen.
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But there's no need for you to call me a Karen.
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Why don't you debate in a professional adult manner?
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you are i've dealt with abusive men in my life absolutely you are you know what i think this
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is actually quite a bit of projection this is actually more you know what you are projecting
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so i think you know what i actually think and i will not allow any more of it to go on i honestly
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you know what i think is abusive falsely accusing someone of abuse that calling someone karen
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multiple times is abusive women do you think calling someone the karen is abusive show of
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hands is it abusive none of the women something is wrong here then you know what you know what
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wow that's really insulting that's really sad that's really these women don't have autonomy
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these women it's okay these women all must agree with you this is the problem with america this
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country breeds narcissists are these women oh look at you look at you are you getting triggered
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Are these women abusing you by not agreeing with you?
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These women are being abusive towards you because they don't agree with you.
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Don't try to hand wave this like, oh, these are 18.
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it's very negative around abuse very loosely and i think i'm talking emotional emotional it's not
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even emotional it is emotional abuse it's negative there are women who are genuinely
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it is emotional abuse there are women who have faced genuine levels of abuse what you're doing
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is like yeah i've been in an abusive relationship oh so have i so have i i've been in abusive
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Maybe I can, you know what, I think I have a moment here to perhaps reach a common ground by letting in the TTS.
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Can someone send the delusional woman in yellow, sitting in chair eight, back to marine land?
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She won't even back up her claim that she is 179 pounds by standing on the scale.
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excuse me that's a they a they well who is it please respect his oh my god fuck i'm sorry i'm
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sorry it's a they them i didn't see that on there well is that on there do they do they do i know
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who that is he's canadian his name okay it's a man then you said he his sorry you said his you
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didn't say they i'm conservative okay i figured most of the men would hate me on this yes i figured
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that i figured most of the male viewers wouldn't like it yeah sure i'm fine with that no problem
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okay we have lizzie here uh actually wait let me let the tts first and i'll come back to that
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spinosaurus maxxing donated two hundred dollars thank you man share it you fat duck stfu you run
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your mouth have no points and constantly spew all the liberal talking points so i shot into the
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purple crystal with your karma yeah you're going so crystal so what is it says chair eight you fat
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duck shut the fuck up right there you go how is that positive that's abusive right there
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you're an abuser too i don't believe brixton humiliates women on the show i think he should
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make an exception for you okay uh here um yeah keep keep keep reading all the abusive comments
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go ahead okay go ahead and keep doing it you're making me feel wonderful wait hold on this is
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below the threshold this is just so great look i'm sorry that your constitution is so weak that
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you can't oh she says it's time for a break she's like i think it's stop you're stop with that
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who her or me hold on let's read these and then we can have you guys chime in uh wait hold on
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there's another there's one that's going to be from lizzie okay i read it yep chair a is medically
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obese bmi equals 170 times 703 plus 60 times 60 bmi equals 119 510 plus 3600 bmi oh my god
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equals 33.2 okay um all right we have uh oh these are just the tens by the way i want to apologize
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for the people who sent in the ttss normally i'm a bit more on top of it but when i'm really engaged
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in the back and forth i'm not paying attention to it so i do want to apologize for the delay
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on those um okay we have this one from based thor coming in if you can read this one call a girl
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beautiful a thousand times she won't think twice call her fat once she'll never forget because
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Yo, I'm fucking banning you for your abuse.
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That is online. Chair two is at least an eight, so
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The viewers that watch it, the host, I mean, does a lot of things.
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Why not do an uplifting podcast, a positive energy one, instead of a controversial one?
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So the thing is, you know, let's change the direction.
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So, I have a worldview. I have a way that I'd like to see the world be. I think that there
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are certain things going on in the world which I think those things are negative.
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Now, it's going to necessitate a level of disagreement and a level of making people
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upset by the things I say for me to manifest my worldview. One of the ways we do this is by
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communicating about our worldview. Inherently, people have differing beliefs and differing
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opinions. I personally believe, like, let me ask you a question. Say that there's a culture,
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say there's some Amazonian tribe that I don't want to get too into details, and these do actually
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exist. This Amazonian tribe abuses children in one of the worst ways possible. I don't even want to
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say it because it's so disgusting. And this is an actual truth. But within that tribe, to them,
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this is like a rite of passage for the, say, it's boys who are being abused. It's a rite of passage.
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Now, from my perspective, I think I should go in there and I don't know what I have to do
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to stop the abuse of the boys now you would agree that the members of that tribe would fight me on
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on this by stopping the abuse where do you land on that should we just allow them to continue
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or should we uh come in as these sort of third party arbiters and say this shit has to stop
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you're not going to do this anymore and that's why i came on this show so you would stop humiliating
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women go ahead and laugh go ahead the humiliation of women need to stop you're being it needs to
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stop i am extra because it's necessary you need someone to put you in your place oh you really do
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yeah you you've done a really good job thank you thank you so much you've somehow turned i think
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a lot the women may be not quite as vocal about it it's fine i have a feeling a lot of the women
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here on the panel have actually probably turned against you a little bit oh that's okay i don't
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care because that's fine they're okay with men treating them that way i guess which is really
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sad debate okay and have conversations with him and hopefully reach out understanding at least
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right understand where he's coming from a little bit right right have him understand where i'm
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coming from a little bit more well this is my opinion i don't agree with this show i think
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it's controversial i think it's negative i think it'd be he's doing it for ratings he's doing it
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for money no i believe you know as i say but you came on the show knowing this stuff like so it's
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just slightly offensive to everybody else on the panel when you're occupying the time arguing the
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same point if you don't like it like no i told him to stop the subject i told him to stop i told
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him we can move on we can move on from it i think i find it kind of offensive saying that we accept
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to be treated like shit by men because we are on this show girl no i didn't say it that way but
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there were some we are okay with you guys treating us right this way no i didn't say that okay you
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guys don't agree with this is abuse you guys don't think telling someone to shut up is abusive i
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think that's wrong why is it abusive it's emotionally abusive okay they might agree that
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it was rude but keep in mind you're leaving out critical like you're suggesting that i said that
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in a vacuum like you were conducting yourself perfectly and here's the big bad misogynist
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coming to tell you to shut up the reality is you're becoming belligerent and then you made
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the comment about my mother and trying to suggest that like karmic justice is coming to me like
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like rejoicing in this idea that i'm gonna like i'm not rejoicing you were rejoicing no you are
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100 incorrect with that i don't rejoice i'm not i'm not someone who wants someone to have pain
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or suffering i want you to be a better person in this world i want you to be a better person too
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That's great. So I think the issue that we're going to have here is when your threshold is so low for what you consider abuse, I'm going to have to just immediately reject on its face your accusations that I like degrade or humiliate women.
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If the threshold is so low that it's just you're the arbiter of what constitutes abuse or humiliation and telling someone to shut up might be rude.
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hold on hold on let me make my point if and by the way i you should never do this i'm not
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advocating this this is a hypothetical situation to test the logic a white person a deeply racist
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person walks up to a black man and calls him the n-word and the black man tells him to shut up
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is the black man being rude or is that warranted i would argue that the black man is within his
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rights to say shut up in fact now i don't think violence would be warranted i disagree i don't
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think you should ever tell anyone to shut up hold on whoa whoa we're not gonna pearl clutch a black
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man was just called the n-word i'm not gonna be upset if he tells that person to shut up and he
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can do so much more strongly he can the white person got punched well so i wouldn't be he could
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just walk away instead of saying shut up look and not engage wait wait why do you have so why
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couldn't you do that why couldn't you do that when it bothered you got bothered when i started to
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you raised your voice your tone right and you bring out the mom card and then you did sound
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you did sound very malicious when you made that w torta oh man i i gotta bring on more tortas
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that's my girl hey we're gonna get tacos after this
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she well he didn't like what i had to say about sometimes you can take the bigger route at the
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end of the day if you don't like this you don't like the energy and all that stuff like let's
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tone it back and just be like you know what hey it's right your podcast what about all the people
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what about all the people who are saying this show is just about it's a lot about humiliating
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women then come on here and debate and have a conversation and disprove that do you guys not
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care no i care that's why i'm here debating but you don't care that a lot of this show is about
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humiliating that's why i'm here debating him hold on that's why i'm here debating just because
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people throw out claims or accusations doesn't actually mean that the thing is true. A lot of
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people say negative. I don't know what your politics are. A lot of people say things about
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Trump, for example, or they might say of your preferred political candidate, they might say
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things about a democratic candidate that may not be true. A lot of, a lot of this is just simply
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slander. A lot of these accusations that are directed either towards me or it could be any
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politician or really anybody uh a lot of people haven't deeply investigated uh a lot of the
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claims that are made a lot of people just assume certain things there's a lot of hoaxes donald
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trump refuses to disavow white supremacy it's like he literally or like white national i forgot
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exactly what it was there's literally like a compilation of him on like every major news
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organization repeatedly disavowing it it's just like there's a lot of false narratives there's a
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lot of fake news there's a lot of misinformation out there whether it's related small scale to my
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podcast to politicians etc um i think the bigger thing here uh hold on we're hold on let me let
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pasty george come in here i don't want to delay any further a message from the government of
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canada pasty george donated two hundred dollars and four cents share eight in yellow you have a
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lot of negative energy coming from you because you are fat and i am concerned for you please
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Just go on a diet and lose weight so that you can be more positive.
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And not just this last one, but for the last 25 years of my life.
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and i've lost weight recently i'm gonna after all the abuse that you directed in my direction i might
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gain five pounds not gonna lie yeah i'm gonna go home and like pig out not gonna lie you're so
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funny like i think that's super abusive what is look if i think you're taking it lightly i think
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this country is taking things lightly i really do i think people are accepting more abuse from the men
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honestly yeah i believe it's becoming the norm to be talked to this way that's great to be treated
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by the men in that way i think i think things need to be re-evaluated we need to look at how
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we're being treated by men we really do so your finger's gotten worse with the years like look
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do you realize we women are getting like equality i think you two should maybe i don't think women
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speak up for themselves i think russia should defend me here i gotta i gotta pee
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i'll be back like yeah i think russia should talk i want to hear you talk i mean i can talk and you
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know like i said i never felt for even a minute humiliated or degraded in any way oh not on this
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show necessarily right right but on other but on the other shows a lot of women are things are
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edited to make the women look stupid on this show of course why but why we live in a capitalistic
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world of course so do you agree with that i want to but why what's his purpose for doing that
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why you know probably coming on to the show that you were going to be rated like rating yourself
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i did not know well no i didn't know that but you agreed to it like he asked us all why'd you
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like i think you should have opted out of it the main reason i'm here is to hopefully bring
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awareness i don't agree with this show making women look stupid and and humiliating women and
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i just i'm gonna stand up for that but you realize like the best thing you can do for this show is to
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go on and disagree like well people love this shit the people love this yeah they love this
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shit why do you think they want you to get mad and have this reaction right they want you to
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so you're feeding in and these people that watch this show are not the type of people i would
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surround myself with then why are you know you know yeah do you guys understand that i think
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i would never showed otherwise i would never watch this show like if you were trying to support the
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women and stuff like that i want you guys to know yes i was definitely trying to never watch the
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show i'm just in clips you never watch it no i'm just in clips i'm sorry i just think if you came
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I would have got a little bit further with what you're trying to look like.
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But you never get through to anyone by yelling.
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As far as the mother's comment, I would like to apologize.
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to you because because that really did hurt your feelings the mother comment so i do want to say
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i'm sorry for that if that really bothered you and i believe i deserve an apology from you too
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wait look he laughed look at his face as soon as i said that he said wait wait right when i said i
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believe i deserve an apology too for the things he said to me i just apologized and i'm asking you
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for an apology so okay i don't know if any of the women are familiar with uh i'm not talking about
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the women i want you to talk to me directly can you stop interrupting though but but can we make
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a can you stop can you make a commitment to stop interrupting i would like an after you apologize
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for the things you said to me i'm not going to do a conditional apology you're going to continue
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to interrupt me as it like as some sort of retributive just apologize right now that's
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all i'm asking this is what actually just apologize for what the words you said to me
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You don't need to say anything more than an apology.
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And if you don't want to, then I know that you generally don't care to apologize.
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What you did there is the narcissist's apology.
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I'm sorry I made you feel that way is like the embodiment of the narcissistic apology.
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it's literally here google narcissistic apology google narcissistic apology i'm apologizing to
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you from my heart i truly felt if it hurts your feelings ask for if i hurt if it hurt your feelings
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what i said i truly am sorry okay you're not and all i was asking is if you could apologize for
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the things you said to me that's all i did i didn't do anything entitled to an apology
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and i'm i actually you're claiming you were abused in your previous relationships
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honestly i think you were the emotionally abusive i was not you're literally a narcissist i don't
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think i've ever accused a woman on the show keep projecting keep projecting did you google the
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narcissist but let's go back to the apology why why is it that you can't apologize to me
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tell me okay wait wait uh can you read this for me he's just ignoring my question interrupt another
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woman no i you're ignoring me the whole thing or just it's not your pot just the top okay
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a narcissistic apology is rarely about taking accountability it is primary its primary goal
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is to regain control deflect blame and protect the speaker's ego instead of offering genuine
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remorse a narcissist will typically use fake apologies to silence the victim minimize the
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harm caused and avoid changing their behavior well here just conditional phrasing i'm sorry
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if you were offended i'm sorry you feel bad i did feel bad and that was not in a fake apology
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I'm telling you that I felt it obviously hurt your feelings, the mother comment.
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And I'm telling you from my heart that I did not want to hurt your feelings on that.
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And I'm telling you, you hurt my feelings with some of the things that you said.
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And it would be nice for you to have an apology.
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But if you think you're getting an apology from me, you are sorely mistaken.
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This is like psychologically interesting to me.
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I want to know why you're not apologizing to me.
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When I just told you, you hurt my feelings with the words you said to me.
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Her conduct in front of thousands of viewers, in front of other people, I guarantee you that she, the way she claims her ex-boyfriends or husbands or whatever were abusive, I guarantee you that the emotional abuse was, quite honestly, maybe it was mutual.
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I was not at all emotionally abusive to my husband.
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I made comments, but I never called you a name.
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I don't want you to involve any of the women here.
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Do you need a bunch of people to back you up to feel more powerful?
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no just no listen you're not gonna grandstand she wants to come in she yeah i want to i want
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to bring the peace you know what i mean because like it's getting too much you know yeah and at
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the end of the day like when someone calls someone a karen it's based on their actions and there's
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the stereotype right you know and of course it's going to upset you and it's going to bring we all
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we all can be one i could tell you that i could be a karen too you know is it going to make me act
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more of course but don't feed into it too you know like just learn to squash it learn to grow
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from it and you know what well now you know you don't you don't ever want to come back and name
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calling name calling is unacceptable okay telling someone they're caring and to shut up is
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unacceptable can I ask you a question of threshold the shut up comment that I made and then the Karen
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comment I made this is useless you need to stop interrupting can you stop interrupting
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The other women probably want to have a podcast.
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Do you know how fucking expensive Kelly is?
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And then we are yelling about giving a fucking apology
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I'll leave the podcast if you continue to talk about me.
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Well, I have two final things, and then we're going to move it on.
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It's going to go on and on if you say anything negative.
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If you say anything negative, this is going to go on and on.
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I'm not saying anything negative, and you keep going on and on.
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Right now, in this moment, I'm trying to end this.
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I'm trying to bring in the positive energy right now.
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stop getting into the meta conversation and just let me get through it so I can move things on.
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Sure. I have two questions for you. Your claim here is that the things that I said were rude
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and abusive. So the two primary things that you said was the Karen thing and the shut up thing.
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Maybe there's more, but those were the two primary things, the shut up and the Karen.
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I'm asking you just, uh, doing a comparative analysis. You say it's, it's, uh, the name
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calling, which is the Karen and the shut up, rude, disrespectful, abusive, that's your position,
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right? So I'm, I'm trying to look at it from your perspective. I just want a threshold. Uh,
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I want a comparative analysis here. I told you to shut up and called you Karen. You made the
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comment about my mother. Comparatively speaking are some things that you can say that are insulting
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or rude worse than others who was ruder from your lens like was your comment worse i believe
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was your comment worse or was i worse i believe we were rude to each other i'm not going to compare
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the question there's no comparison that's going to be all based on your opinion or my opinion okay
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that's not so crazy stop stop i'm gonna ask you that's not crazy that's my opinion and you should
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respect my opinion. Your opinion stinks like a butt ass. Your opinions are like an ass, okay?
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Your opinions stink like ass. So what? Your answer would be no to him. Hold on. Let me ask
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the women here at the table. Can we make delineations as to level or severity of
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offensiveness or rudeness so for example if i call someone a stupid doo-doo face is that that's rude
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is that as rude as if i were to tell somebody and this is not what she said but just as an example
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i hope you never have children i hope like i hope that uh you you meet an unfortunate end and your
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your mother's terrible your father's terrible which one's worse latter one right so i think
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it's fair to make a delineation here between calling you a Karen and shut up and the comments
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you made about my, my mother and implying that there was something, something there. So are you
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not prepared to say that your comment was worse? My comment was not worse. I did. So just so I
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understand for me, you're okay. I'm not saying, I'm not saying my comment wasn't bad. Let me ask
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a clarifying question. No, I understand. I understand. I understand you're acknowledging
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it's rude, but can, let me ask you a question. Can certain things be more rude than other things?
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in everyone's own perspective in your perspective absolutely we all have different perspectives
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here i'll make it super simple how about telling um telling to someone to shut up
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is that uh equal to telling someone uh sings to someone shut the fuck up which one's worse
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they both do damage long term on the mental health that i am answering the question you're
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not look i'm following your the way that you're talking to me question um if you didn't have
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breakfast this morning how would you feel no there's no different in my opinion there's no
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difference to shut up or shut the fuck up it's the same thing um if a man tells me to shut up
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or shut the fuck up they're both they're both negative and different severity so what it's
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still abuse no it's not it is neither of them are they're emotional abuse they are they are
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I've never had something like this on the podcast
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say you're sorry for telling me to shut up and for calling me a karen that does not look good
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it doesn't warrant a response that doesn't look good on you though no i think it looks it might
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look good on the viewers for controversy and for being an asshole yeah you look good as being an
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asshole i'm not going to you know so i'm not going to be bullied by a karen into doing an apology
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see because i'm bullied by a karen you're the bully call telling me to shut up and that i'm a
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abusive if he deserves it well i'm not gonna let him what i'm not gonna let him keep kicking me in
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the knee i'm not gonna let him keep kicking me over and over you started it so anyways okay hold
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on i i have one final thing then i'm moving this on i i raised a good hypothetical to you so i think
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i was asking you or i i was sort of directing it towards you a little bit i don't know or maybe it
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just towards everyone. So the question about a white man approaching a black man, which I find
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objectionable, but the hypothetical is the white man approaches the black man and calls him the
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N-word. And the black man, in response, tells him to shut up or shut the fuck up. I don't think that
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the black man has actually done anything wrong here. Now, you said, well, he shouldn't say shut
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up, but I'd like to perhaps change it a little bit. I said he should walk away. He shouldn't
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say shut up you shouldn't i shouldn't call you listen i shouldn't call you an asshole you shouldn't
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tell me to shut up you shouldn't call me a karen we should do we should be better we should be we
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should just walk away from situations now but and guess what i'm about to walk away from the
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situation you want to know why please do wait can you because it got so bad this is hold on hold on
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so i have one final point stop i have one final point i know that you're wearing a star of david
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necklace yes okay so my you want to know why is that why you're asking me are you jewish yes i am
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okay and by the way i'm not there's an i'm not saying that's bad i'm just asking because i'm
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not sure if you can put yourself into the black man's shoes here would you if somebody were to
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walk up and call you a slur that was offensive to jewish people and just to be clear um that's wrong
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would you or maybe not you but you see a jewish person and somebody walks up to them a neo-nazi
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walks up to a jewish person um and calls them a incense uh a slur that jewish people would find
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offensive i'm not going to say it of course and that jewish person responds and says shut up
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is that unwarranted i don't think it's necessary to say shut up but but so to let me defend the
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jewish person right i would defend the jewish person i i would be like whoa they just called
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you something really offensive like and you just told them to shut up like good for you i get like
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i feel like it could go way further so i'm just very confused by your inability to establish a
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threshold as to there are different levels of thresholds it is what it is it's crazy you just
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them. Then we have some super chats. We got a lot of super chats
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that we got to pull up. Vector, thank you, man.
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appreciate it patty d thank you donated two hundred dollars chair eight you're making a strong case
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for eugenics i think it'd be best for me to leave the podcast so you guys can have the opportunity
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to talk because i feel like i would take up the whole podcast if i stayed because i think he's
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very triggered now i think you're triggered to be no i think you're very triggered and i don't want
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to take up any more time from these beautiful i mean i truthfully i think i'm calmer than you
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are to be honest oh i can be calm like you too i can be very calm sure sure i can be i can pretend
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like you're pretending you want a guy who makes okay what's your body you guys it's going on and
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on with me do you guys want him to keep going on with me he's gonna go on the whole show what's
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your body count that's none of your business at all i would not disclose that to you cool i guess
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Hope you're having a good time over there in England
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Just do the viewers and the ladies a favor
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what is uh hey thank you for that appreciate it man uh yeah yeah you wouldn't you wouldn't be able
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to move on from me tonight that's why i think i have to excuse myself because you're very bothered
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by me because what i've said really hits home to you you're just no no no i know i can read you
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i can read you there you go again i've told you multiple times that that offends me and you keep
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to go on i think you should shut up karen look how good he looks shut up karen okay karen you're
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shut up karen shut up karen return to sender lady got in berserker mode because of a number
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what is all shut up karen shut up karen shut up karen bro you're like a child shut up karen
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like an infant bro you're like a child you're like an infant what happened to you what happened
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to you what happened to you what happened to you your brain is stuck at at she's doing the she's
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doing the repeating thing like this is uh brian you have the opportunity to do the funniest thing
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no way this is wow bro see juke 3x3 donated 200 25 plus years of abusive relationships
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can't handle being brought down is defensive of all women when women are disagreeing with her
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she shows up drunk hijacks the show i'm not 100 delusion i'm not drunk at all
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do you take any medications absolutely not who wants who wants me to leave the podcast
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raise your hand i won't vote this vote who wants me to leave i just want the women to vote vote
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women raise your hand who wants me to leave the podcast you guys all want your time he wants me
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to stay on the podcast because this is big controversy for him this is a good podcast
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this is one of his number one podcasts this is what you want i want i mean it was fun for a while
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you know we'll do what we have to do i guess but um uh can you read this from blotfest oh i love
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her specific interpretation of karma i'm going to have to try it out so everyone she is an a-hole
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to each day simply had it coming brilliant do you want to keep going on or drop the subject
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or do you want to make more controversy so the viewers will be excited i'm going to read the
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super chat you want to keep it on me he keeps going i want to stop this but he keeps going
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what is our dollar stop talking what is no i'm asking him he's talking i'm asking him to stop
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he's not even talking about you he's talking about the dollar sign like what is he's literally
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saying what is our books wait chat chat what currency is that how much because if they're
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like using a different if they're like vpn-ing the super chats i don't i feel like it's unfair
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to the people who are actually doing like usd or something wait uh sar 300 to usd
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it's like 80 bucks apparently all right we'll read them super quick go ahead
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can you read oh lady got in berserker mode because of a number read this one she should
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never go to a comedy roast then karma will get everybody she'll say this one stfu we've got
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pharma cat here with a big gifted 50 whatever memberships thank you man appreciate it uh
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fat manic karen gifted 20 whatever memberships um okay thank you for that um natalia appreciate
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it uh all right we have uh this one from xander if you can read this one this is a classic hoa
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president's wife karen chimp out god bless her heart
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so you can keep reading the comments or you can need advice voodoo on yellow melon not working on
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you my crystals are not working on you should i just order you mcdonald's so you shut the fuck
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up brian if you won't kick her yellow card please so keep keep reading keep reading the abusive
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comments to me go ahead keep keep being an abuser that's what you like no i don't like it okay i
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would like the mcdonald's uh listen why don't you keep going on with the abusive comments
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keep it up keep it up i can make it i thought you said if we voted that you would leave i wanted to
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i wanted to stop this but he keeps reading the you know what we're gonna do it's his podcast
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they paid actually here's what we're gonna do hold on this is what we're gonna do so on june 21st
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Episode 300, I'm bringing on a smorgasbord of, okay, it's going to be Bangs, it's going to be Bevo, it's going to be Gorlock, we're going to bring on Kiko, we're going to bring on Desiree, and we're going to bring on Priscilla.
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We'll have you back for episode 300, which will be a shit show.
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We're having a lot of the big disagreeers come back on the show.
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I think I'm going to have you walk that way, though.
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Well, I do have hard feelings because you never apologized.
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I just wanted to speak how I felt about you not apologizing to me.
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I want you to really think about this and sleep on it, okay?
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I just want you to know that I'm not happy that you didn't apologize to me.
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No, you're not going to tell me which way I'm going.
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Oh, no, you're not going to tell me which way I'm going.
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No, why do I have to go this way versus that way?
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I just don't understand why you didn't feel comfortable.
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If people have conflict, it's common to have them go separate ways.
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I'm not trying to have you walk past me and anything like that, so just leave.
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what the fuck was that what the actual fuck was that
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can i say something like that's where i was originally sitting
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she asked me in the beginning of the show she's like if i want to leave
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how should i ask to leave like she wanted i think and she's like can i name call him and she wanted
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to call him like a comedian and i don't think she wanted to leave she was like no i think she
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wanted to get kicked off the show but this is blowing up you know she's smart she was asking
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me before the show oh how should i leave i think some of it was just on purpose
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that was staged and that was staged good that was crazy yeah yeah i feel like bad saying girl
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that's becoming a meme like you know i was looking at you i was like girl i was like
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And she would agree with all of us when we were like, she was a narcissist.
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But as soon as Brian said something, it was like, abuse man.
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She's using her past trauma and taking it out on him.
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I feel like you guys could have had my back a little better.
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you guys all got up so she could go that way and she like intentionally came this way just to be
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like i don't know i feel like that's anyways she wanted it i think she wanted yeah yeah
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i think she's gonna masturbate later to you
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like the way he spoke i would wait let me see if she had any notes maybe i should have got into
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i'm gonna invite her back on for episode 300 i'm sorry that's gonna be a torture session
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you know what that's like your kink you like debuts no i do no i kind of like the more like
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i i like when we can get into some fun back and forth debates but like that
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no that's too much that's too much i like disagreement but like she was just like at
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the end you guys heard the when she was this was like six years like this is like kindergarten
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in uh don't repeat me don't repeat me like it's she's 40 how old is she 46 i have not had somebody
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do that since i was like in elementary school that's crazy it was like my children's like you're
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where were the girls well the girls needed needed to come in and have my back i tried
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you guys this is what y'all should have done y'all should have been like
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like all at the same time shut up karen we voted yeah i just say i didn't affect
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bro that shit was actually brian i feel like this is abuse from you that i
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you know i really did have your back yeah you you you came in there a little bit you were trying
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to reason with her but man she could not be reasoned with uh if std had a face it's oh my
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god oh boy all right well i do i apologize to you guys because that burned quite a bit of time but
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we're gonna get into some fun topics so i hopefully can involve you guys a bit more
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and uh i wonder let's see hold on one sec let me show you all gonna be safe like is she gonna put
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girl i can't fucking yeah can you can you walk me
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like the power level like like she does reiki and shit but we got i'll take her bro she got
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she actually i saw her while that she was going down she did a protective spell yes yes she did
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protective board i did yeah it was just with my eyes though i didn't think nobody noticed
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okay all right uh i don't think i'm gonna need these for any of you guys you guys are all pretty
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pretty good sports here so okay let's get back into something interesting there was uh one thing
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we were gonna react to i guess we could just do it now um i need you to gamer dude bro yeah i mean
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the way she was framing the karma justice stuff was like very that was malicious that was that
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was weird like that was like you're gonna get what's coming to you yeah yeah who says that
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bro that shit's weird anyways luckily i have my bodyguard here next to me bro who's she was about
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to throw hands i was she's about to throw a hand she's a yeah not like in the reiki way though
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anyways whatever bro can we all just like i need a i need a joint
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you know what let's do i got a funny thing let's do the patrice we're gonna do the patrice clip
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i feel like we need a little fun segment here do we have ai too
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okay we'll do ai let's do fun little like more light fun segment here we're gonna do the patrice
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clip we'll do the ai do you know where the patrice clip is i think it's in media it's
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going to be all the way at the very top probably and there's more debates to be had but um let me
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see where it's holy shit you might have to scroll up pretty far oh okay so it's going to be i'm
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going to give you the date for it okay uh 7 13 2025 in uh resources media
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Here, go video, you're going to have to go video tab on this
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Okay, go ahead, and I'll tell you to pause it at one point
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Let me ask you a question, here's a question
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Like, say it was a terrible train accident, right
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And the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away
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cause she just lost the pussy in the train accident
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So how would I keep my man if I didn't have a vagina
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say like what other sexual things like what um blowjob okay next that's what i was gonna say
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give lots of head and then i like threesomes as it is so i just let him do threesomes and stuff
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so yep lots of blowjobs and anything he wanted that didn't need a vagina
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well my vagina anyway we could bring in another vagina that's what i'm saying like we could bring
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in another girl we could bring in another vagina yeah i like doing that anyways so
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i still have a mouth so right that's what i'm saying i'm just gonna say i have like two other
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functioning holes yeah yeah and the other one yeah so they're functioning holes and then we
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also swing so like i don't know what to say we'll be fine good i'm gonna find a doctor to cut his
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penis so he he doesn't need sex anymore um well my butthole's a virgin so you're welcome
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so i have to be sexual i was gonna say like just bake for him and
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you're so pure for that like you're so pure like i was going to say like do stuff that he likes
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you know that his hobbies learn his hobbies you know learn more about him
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maybe learn how to cook better something like that so i'd suck his toes
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i don't know i feel like some of your answers like it's it's a vagina like men put their dick
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in there like i know you guys were being sweet and stuff that's just no like men's toes are
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disgusting i mean not necessarily i like toes no your hands are actually dirtier yeah well yes but
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most of men have like athlete's feet yeah most men sweating in their shoes yeah so he's athletic
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i don't know yeah i'm gonna hand jobs foot job brian would you want a hand job
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How would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina?
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you see what I'm saying now I've been getting pussybeating the whole show
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right but I give women an opportunity to say I want to make myself worth more but
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you just classified yourself as a series of holes but no one said learn how to
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play Xbox learn how to play pool tell better stories get another bitch that
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I feel like the way, you know, the question is asked, like, that's why I assumed, you
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know the same i think we all assume the same which is you know you don't have a pussy anymore
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and you know listening to the response after you're like oh shit damn is that all we're worth
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and it's like ow like you know i got a little slap to the face on that so but if you turn the
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question around and you ask the man that what would you do if you lost your dick how would
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you keep your girl he would be like i would give head like he would say exactly the same so yeah
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she said she'd cut his dick off to be fair
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Panel, what is your most embarrassing dating story?
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can be sexual or not embarrassing for you or the other party.
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If you can, give a quick bullet point version to whoever wants to go.
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He was wearing a hat, and you could only see the hair here.
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it's like those denture things and he was not old do you have an embarrassing dating story
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not thinking of you i was with a guy who i did not know was living at home he was 30 i was 20
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which is also okay not the worst part of the story but he's living at home which i found out
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because there's family pictures everywhere he knocks on the wall we are at it you know he
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knocks on the wall and he's like mom mom everything's fine don't worry i'm just having
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girl over and i'm like what the fuck okay like i can deal with that you live at home but
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why are you engaging your mom in our sexual activities like didn't see him again
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do you know or i once had a guy like poop on the side of the road on a date
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that's crazy all right did you go on a second yes i had what's your embarrassing it's kind of like
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a couple weeks ago um me and my friend we went out for a nightclub and we met two french
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handsome guys and the next day they invite us to hang out with them for a double date
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and we watch a movie together but doing the movie one of the guys keep trying to
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put my hand inside of his pants and trying to like force me to do some hand job for him
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i mean it's like it's so wild it's a public theater and full of people
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though yeah that's uh that's a yikes okay um cool kaya homegirl like like something
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embarrassing i've done or they've done either in high school i was giving my ex roadhead and
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i threw up on his dick that was pretty embarrassing that's fucking disgusting
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yikes yikes okay wow good times um my fun boy ex used to go out in public on the call with me
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and uh and he would uh like say embarrassing things like skibbity riz six seven
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like loudly in public wait were you drunk no you just went too far yeah down and he was like
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driving and so he had like sit in it for the rest of the time yikes time and place i also don't get
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when the girls like they they like go too deep to the point i when they gag i'm like you don't
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like that she only goes for black guys so it's not that that was a white guy actually oh but he
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did have a big day oh i don't i don't like that it's like we can have oral sex without you vomiting
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a lot of guys like it because it makes them feel like they're big so like sometimes you like fake
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choke to make them feel better yeah or fake gag yeah i don't want your stomach acid on my cock
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like that's crazy i will say that's only happened to me one time okay i don't know i'm like yo
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chill wait so you want her experience so you want her experience no wait what do you mean
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like you want her to have experience doing that well i'm not sure exactly how you're arriving
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there but i mean i would argue that the woman who's able to like deep throat to that degree
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probably has quite a bit of an experience and i'm saying i don't want that like it i don't know
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so i don't really care about a woman's sexual experience though it's kind of irrelevant um
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i don't know i feel like if you're leading in in bed you can basically as a man you can if you
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know what you're doing you can have good sex with a woman who's a virgin uh so yeah if you teach her
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though like i think yeah i mean yeah i don't really care about experience though to be honest
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you think that vice versa like a woman no well answer uh ask your question first like what you
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said wait what did you say about the vice versa literally what you said uh do i think that women
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it was about the bed shit you're a man can have a man can have good sex with a
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virgin woman right is what you're saying generally speaking i think a woman who who
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she's experienced and the guy's not i think that more often than not is not going to be a good
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recipe there um it depends if she's more dominant though she's more she like like dominant than if
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she's like okay being like the leader or teacher sexually then i'm sure she'll be fine with it but
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i think most women lean more towards wanting the man to lead they lean more towards uh i mean i
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don't know i don't think it's a turn on for most women to have to like y'all women i think generally
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speaking you kind of want a guy to just get it you don't want to have to like like the ideal
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scenario would be, uh, he just hits the right spots and knows how to please you and do all
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these things. You don't want to have to like, some of you might be open to walking him through it.
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And I think to some degree there's, there needs to be some communication. Like I would, I, even
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if what I'm doing for the girl feels good, I would want her, I mean, I'd probably just ask,
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but I'd be like, Hey, um, if I'm using my hands, uh, left, right up, down harder, faster, uh,
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less pressure, more pressure. Like I'll ask that because if it, if it's going to, you know,
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some women have a preference and it might still be pleasurable, but what is the thing that
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really gets her going? Uh, I might just ask her, but yeah, I don't think, like, I think most men,
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if they're like, she's a virgin, they're like, yes, for most women, if the guy's a virgin,
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they're like, no, no, absolutely not. Generally speaking. I don't know. So
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we have a reaction or let's do the ai shit let's do ai shit and then we have a reaction kaya
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that's your name right kaya she posted a i think an instagram story that i saw the other day but
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that was interesting uh go ahead play uh let's do the quick ai thing all right so the question is
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Well, technically, her hair is dark, so it should have.
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I feel like I like eyes that look more, like, different than that.
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That looks exactly like my fucking brother.
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Just because I can't date somebody that looks like my brother.
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Honestly, I feel like they did you kind of dirty on the, a little bit dirty here.
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My ex-relationship was 20 years younger than me.
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So you're, like, trying to kick it with her, like, male friends, basically.
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fuck yeah i would yeah yeah i would okay next
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i mean i don't really like other redheads so like wow that's racist
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tina would you date this guy he's pretty handsome actually he makes 200 million dollars
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fuck him oh fuck him okay all right uh next
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accurate accurate hey come get your man uh
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oh shit yeah shit all right next whoa whoa okay that guy uh he looks like he's stone out of his
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like a billy idol thing going maybe i don't know next
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yeah i'm down oh there you go all right yeah i look like my boyfriend oh shit okay
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um sure i would you date him i would date him he's a beauty girl all right next
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whoa okay he's too young oh too young all right she likes him older there it is
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all right um got a real cougar over here or wait no that wait what
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that doesn't make sense we got i don't know i'm a discord kitten um okay all right uh so the oh
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wait we have to do me oh boy they're gonna it's gonna be bad okay oh this one again nah i wouldn't
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date her she kind of looks like her i'm not that's what i was thinking yeah they used to do me so
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well but now they're just i don't know anyways now i wouldn't do it uh let's see what's the next
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thing we're gonna get into the questionnaire stuff let's get into some of that and then uh
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is everyone done i think with they're almost done with their we'll have uh in just a moment
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tiffany will collect those uh let's do this what is the minimum yearly income to be your future
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what other ways are you an anomaly we should swap her chair it's kind of squeaking wait tiffany can
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have you take this chair here that um that the the i think we got a free one behind me maybe
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we'll swap her chair because hers is squeaking i think it's mine oh it's yours okay we'll do a
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chair swap then um i don't hopefully it wasn't too bad for the audience here wait really quick
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um i'm just curious if we have you know what i need to do this for because i'm
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i'm doing uh a project because we're coming on up on episode 300 and we're doing stats for all
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our guests like okay uh like age location all this stuff and um where was i going with this
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uh oh i need a oh my god this is so cringe okay fuck whatever are we still figuring out the chair
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okay hold on one sec i'll wait until the chair is figured out while i'm doing that guys like
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the video if you enjoyed the stream guys i need to hold on hold on i dealt with that fucking
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karen for like an i should have kicked her sooner to be honest i dealt with her for
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a long ass time I need to see like what how many likes do we have on the video
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what is it 1900 I need to see I want 3000 likes I need to see 1000 likes right now so we're at
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we're at about 2000 I need 3000 likes like the video guys if you want to I don't know
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make me regain my sanity. $200 TTS, $100 read, $10 display. All right. I guess I
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fucking should pull this up. I'm just curious. I want to take a poll. So I have an organization
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called BLM, Big Labia Matter. And I'm just curious, because I believe it's 50-50 split,
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like women who have large labia, Audis or whatever. Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
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not belly buttons not belly buttons show of hands who has an any oh my god this is crazy
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i think i'm gonna skip this one okay good talk um i'm just curious you know so okay audi but
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you know what i've been i have an embarrassing dating story i've been labia fished before
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like a woman will hit me up be like yo brian i got what you want and then get down to business
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and she ain't got the goods you know like has a guy ever told you
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he's got a big dick and then you get down to business
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and it ain't you know it ain't you know what i mean no no okay the girls don't know what i'm
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talking about i know what they're talking they don't know what i'm talking about with that one
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i should have pulled this up while that fucking girl was here clown world holy clown world i
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don't think i've ever it's ever been has it chat i know some of y'all have been watching since 2022
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question for the chat that woman that we kicked off
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have we ever had a guest that bad i don't know she might be in the running for worst guest ever
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chat what do you guys think i think it was the one that put her butt on andrew
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desiree you know what though i feel like desiree was desiree would at least kind of shut up
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about that comedian girl priscilla was bad too i guess but was that i think that girl was the
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worst i think that was the worst hands down and we've had some bad people anyways uh okay let's
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move on with the questionnaire do uh did we go around the the income we did me yeah minimum
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income minimum yearly income i don't have any minimum income for a guy you date you can work
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she's gonna pass you over 15 yeah fifth 10 million a year is not enough 10 million a year
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gentlemen this is what what we're this is what 10 million you know 10 million a year not enough
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for miss tina over here i don't even know once you make 10 million a year like what what are you
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supposed to even buy with that you know you want i can link you up with elon you want to he'll get
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he'll he's rich he's gonna he's about to be a trillionaire you want me to get you set up with
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elon musk he makes very bad decisions with women he's too old well but you know he's a handsome
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guy you realize to have to be old to have that amount of money i don't think he's handsome
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but well i think face wise i'd say he has he's got masculine dimorphism uh he's not like
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he's not a supermodel i give him like i think he's a bit above average though
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bro elon musk is a bit above average like considering his age and all that elon musk
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has above average facial attractiveness he's not like a nine or a ten or anything but i
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i don't know what about compared with you he's good looking uh compared with me i i mean i'm
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a bit younger than elon he might he has more masculine dimorphism so he has a more masculine
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face than i do so i mean he probably mogs me a little bit not gonna lie like i'm younger than
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him but if i was his age he mogs or if he was my age he mogs i think i don't know okay what about
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you money i said 60k all right next i think i said 80 to 100 80 to 100 okay next i said 70k plus
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somebody birth control alarm going off or something who who hears on birth control
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kind of but it's because i have a chronicle illness so i need birth control for that there
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must be a way to silence that um a what oh a what that's her phone she left her phone
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you're kidding right wait didn't she take a phone though she took a phone wait how
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she didn't take anybody else's phone whoa wait oh my god bro i don't see any comms from her
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wait bro what what do you mean she doesn't have her phone
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no she took her phone didn't she the wrong one bro can somebody here tiffany show the phone to
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the table let me see it wait what's the wallpaper it's mine but i don't know why it would be going
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why do we have 10 people away from the table now oh my god all right
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okay i don't know where we were back to this i guess
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oh man why would you insert that that this fucking lunatic left her phone
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what obviously somebody else is all right whatever um how tall are you and what's the
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minimum height of a man you would date starting with you go around the table without me prompting
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you i'm five five and at least someone that's like taller than me like maybe five nine five ten
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i'm 4 10 so i have no height preference i'm like five foot um five seven and up
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okay uh five three and five five i'm six foot and we'll do like five seven
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okay i changed my standard from 180 centimeters to 178 at least if he can make 20 million a year
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so six feet and 511 okay um i am five foot three but i don't have a height preference so
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yeah uh well I disagreed with when you guys were talking about like body count okay sure that's one
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yeah uh is there anything else or just the body counting um mostly that okay um let's get into
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body count then um so on the questionnaire there's a statement past should not matter
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you did before you with your person like in the past like I don't think that defines you as a
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person no sweet yeah same thing I just like to me I don't I don't care honestly I prefer if you
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have more experience and stuff so it doesn't bother me prior doesn't matter just from then on
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okay uh well i guess going around the table what is your body count
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i don't keep track of that have you forgotten i just don't keep track but have you forgotten
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what it is no so you know what the body count is is it do you want to do a range um it's
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over 10 is it over 20 it's around 20 over 30 no it's like around 20 camera switch sure i don't know
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uh okay around 20 okay we'll accept that what about you i haven't kept track in like
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three or four years but i would say somewhere between like 60 and 80 so 60 and 80 okay all
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I haven't kept track in a while because of relationships, but it's probably up around 100.
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No, the people you've had sexual intercourse with.
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I'm worried my kids are going to watch this one day.
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maybe we should give her the phone so she can uh okay uh tina 10.5
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wait wasn't it more last time uh one more okay what about you i'm just not going to disclose
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that in case my parents ever watch this you don't you do hardcore porn i do and i honestly
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don't know the number either so wait wait wait wait wait hold on wait oh this these angles don't
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um there's photos and videos of you 100 online yep having sexual intercourse with other men
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absolutely with men yep that's okay but just saying the number of men i i would be lying
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if i gave you a range i honestly don't know ballpark it i'm just ballpark i'm gonna pass
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hard pass the parents are watching you can you can go count it you can go count it if you want
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well how about this uh can you just uh of your professional work since that's out there in the
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public can you disclose the amount of scenes you've done i think that's fair i honestly don't
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know like how many scenes i've done in the past it doesn't have to be precise but between are you
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including women and men or just men delineate just 20 men 21 and something like that uh probably
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between the two like actual shot scenes would be like 50 50 men or 50 both like if you were to
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combine them because i shoot multiple scenes with people when i shoot so it's like half and half or
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yeah okay what about you tour de barbie seven tour de barbie sorry i don't know what i'm saying
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i'm sorry okay go ahead do i have to say you have to watching you have to say it do you want to do
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like like other ways you're talking wait like are you talking utah ways what what what i didn't say
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anything what does that mean well like someone rocked the bed yeah whoa whoa whoa i thought this
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was a myth wait you hold on whoa wait wait wait wait wait wait whoa okay hold on um wait i gotta
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to press a button for this i also so you're a virgin
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vagina you haven't had i'm scared girl you know the butthole's tighter right
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naturally you have things that come out of your butt right so it's like you're you get
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used to like oh that's how it and you know when you're pooping you're like it feels good like
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it's like really big and you're like kind of like pushing it in and out
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hold on that's exactly why i don't do anal i don't do anal because of that it's scary
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okay but like you never have things like that naturally come out of your vagina
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fucking disgusting baby is okay yeah but i don't know what that's like because i can't be pregnant
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You're asking what person Brian can't talk for you
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Wait was this your first time having anal sex
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you know usually i mean look some women do this are you christian yeah is this like a loophole
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like no until marriage no no i'm not a good christian you're nervous i i shouldn't have
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done it at all because we're supposed to be married first but i i know in my heart that
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i'm gonna marry him so like i feel like i'm just scared the guy you met in a vtuber yes
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that's a leap i feel like that's no it's not okay listen listen you're you're okay okay sorry go
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ahead i've had anal maybe like once or twice and i've had sex like over a thousand times
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well okay like look my shit my poops are huge what you're trying i'm not is that why you're
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i'm not i'm not okay listen listen it's i'm used to it because i've always had this problem like
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okay so it's like i know what it feels like i have a reference and i know it doesn't hurt that
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bad right but like i've never had anything naturally go in there like yeah the poop
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goes out yes yeah no not when you suck it back
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i think that's an original experience because i've never heard of that before
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i want to know how she she sucks the shit in like tell me
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because i'm lactose i like to know wow that's an um okay this is interesting so you have like a
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an uh is this like a fetish for you or no no it's not you're like i enjoy like i don't know no no
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no i don't like that so i'm just i'm not no i don't need to poop i'm just saying no no i'm not
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saying that but you you like you you said you enjoy in out like okay maybe i just i don't know
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if i was born with the male g-spot or something i don't do you climax from anal sex yeah that's
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The shit hurts. Have you guys seen American
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where he's in the bedroom with Naughty after
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obviously wrong like the whole filming it on a webcam like that's obviously crazy but anyways um
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and he's like slowly like he just blasts in his pants without like any
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okay you're just like jimbo from american okay because my body is autopilot
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touching your thigh makes you yes i guess he's a lucky guy then i mean that shit that's easy
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right i mean some of y'all clitorises are like a rubik's cube sometimes you know
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like some of y'all come super easily like some girls be coming
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pop pop but some of y'all it takes a little bit you know you got rubik's cube that shit you know
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i don't know okay good for wow what a lucky guy so happy for you uh but okay so okay you
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Aren't you an OnlyFans? No, she doesn't do that.
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Yeah, but if she's coming from, like, her asshole, that's, like, how many...
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I feel like that's some stud shit, though.
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like nah we're not even having regular sex we're gonna skip over because i feel like boyfriend most
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like i think a lot i don't know what the percentage is i don't know but i think there's a like good
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proportion of women where it's like that's completely off the table and there's some
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women who are open to it and some women who are like really like it or whatever but even in those
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instances i feel like normal sex typically comes first you know it's like maybe we do it the regular
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way and then okay all right so you're not a virgin anymore though technically i mean you did have sex
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even though it was up the poop chute high five i'm scared of climaxing what the fuck bro no i want to
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know how big his i want to know how big his thing is for you to say like it does it like for you to
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be scared for a penis to go in your vagina? Dude, I'm scared to put my finger in. Huh? I'm scared to put my finger in. I tried to, I had to get like a pap smear thing. Yeah, that's painful. But I couldn't do it. They couldn't do it because I was crying and screaming. Girl, I had the same. They just put me in anesthetics and I passed out. Dude, I can't do it. I'm scared. It's like, I don't know what it's like. How do you just naturally progress to that? You get fingered first. Yeah, but like, I never did that. It's like, you gotta warm, you gotta warm.
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All right, okay, well, I'm going to move with it.
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Well, she was saying that you said your dumps are gigantic.
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I'm not trying to talk about some dick right now, you know what I mean?
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So anyways, wait, we were talking about your disagreement?
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Multiply it by three and that's the real number.
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wait didn't you have didn't you say you dated a guy for like three years yeah i did so wait
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this guy who you what who's 14 years your senior who's in a vtuber discord what's wrong with me
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and it's well no look you can meet people online that's fine but like what about boyfriend of
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three years like i mean i was like a minor so we didn't do anything uh oh okay i wasn't
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i guess i wasn't thinking about that the consenting range at least in the u.s is 48 months
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so if i'm like 17 i can technically date a 19 year old as long as they're within 48 months
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yeah but i didn't do that well how old was your three-year boyfriend like same age
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move off of that but um so remember what i was telling her earlier y'all all right i'll learn
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you yeah it'll take time but you got it okay uh let's see here uh we're gonna get into try to
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finish up the questionnaire uh were there any other disagreements kaya from you uh not that i
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you say that people of color can't be racist towards white people or you agree with that
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statement anyway why is that i thought the question said that they can be can't be oh
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then i misread it well do you uh so like it's not about the ability to do it or for example
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there's sometimes a framing that black people can't be racist towards white people i think they
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can you think they can okay so perhaps it was just a mistake there don't disregard them uh kennedy
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you think women are oppressed in the usa why is that in certain areas i would just say through
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like my own experience like i feel as though like a lot of like opportunities i've gotten like given
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to me or anything like that has have been like because men have been wanting to like fuck or
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something like that and i feel like men don't really have to like experience that especially
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in the business world like and so that's like one of the reasons why i said it just through like
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oh so you're talking like the casting couch how like in the music industry oh wait sorry i mean
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like i do only fans but i do like streaming and like other types of content like i don't
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only do and so you're saying when you do collaborations with men no or sorry can you
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i'm talking about like so i work i have like a llc and i work in the business world besides
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only fans and stuff like that and so when i'm talking about like business opportunities like
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not regarding only fans i feel like a lot of times like those men are just expecting sex out of me
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or like at least wanting that or hoping for that or something and i feel like men don't have to
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deal with that like men don't get given opportunities or like at least like approached
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what's your lc what's your business i don't want to say it well don't say the name of the business
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what is the the do you sell hot dogs what what is the business i have vending machines it's so
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dumb but like yeah i have vending machines and i've been working with like airbnb and shit like
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that and i'm working like getting a coca-cola vending machines is it it's just like all sorts
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of ones like i bought and i go and stock them and shit like that oh i'm sorry i bought them
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and i go and like stock them and shit like that but that's i don't know like i i work with like
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other shit like so when you go to a business and you're like hey look i've got this vending machine
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you've got the location i'll give you 10 or i don't know how much i don't know how the vending
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machine business works you give them a cut right to use their space and then then they want to
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is that basically what's happening i wouldn't say all the time because like sure not all the time
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i would i was like more so talking about like i mean i guess i shouldn't have said the vending
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machine shit but like when i'm in like let's say like streaming or something like that like i feel
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like a lot of times like men will have you on like their stream or something like that just because
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they want to fuck or something like that oh isn't that what i asked okay when you go when you're
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like collaborating with a guy and then he i guess like when you said collapse i was thinking about
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like no not like a collaboration and it's not sex work related okay i misunderstood okay so you go
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on like famous male streamers or like you do stuff like who yeah who's the guy who tried to
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fuck i haven't tried to fuck any of them no who's the guy who tried to fuck i'm not gonna call him
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out okay that's fine but then he i mean look um but i've had that happen to me quite but are they
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pushy with it or are they just like i've been by the way i know i know we work together but i think
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you're cute do you want to go out sometime is it that or are they trying to like one time i was
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like i was actually out in la and somebody i thought was like my friend or whatever who's
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also in like the content world like um he asked if like or i asked if i could like stay with him
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and he's like yeah and so i was like okay let's get two beds like just to make it comfortable
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and stay with him where at an airbnb out in la because i was coming he was traveling too
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yeah he was traveling it was like a bunch of our friends were coming here type shit and so
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it was just like we were just gonna like split the bmb type shit on like some friendly shit
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and then like i get there and there's only one bed and i'm like yo what the fuck like i said
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two beds type shit and then like eventually he kicked me out of the airbnb because i wouldn't
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fuck him yeah so i think you're there's a little degree of
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um you're not gonna you're not gonna uh answer that um hold on let me see what's going on
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uh wait wait wait hold on riley you know what's going on i turned my phone off
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should i turn my phone on what the fuck is your you have a husband yes
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bro does is your husband not have a link to the live stream right now
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i okay your husband i'm just i don't check my instagram messages during the show i don't know
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if husband man is watching okay he says if i don't hear from my wife within the next 20 minutes
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here's what you're going to do though so you can abide by our security protocols here
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go get your phone call your fucking husband and tell him he needs to fucking leave then you can
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leave. We're not opening the door for him. Tell him he needs to leave. Right now.
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Bro, I can't believe this. We're literally live streaming. Like, how is he not aware?
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Here, I'll message him. Bro, she's here. She's fine. Are you the one knocking? Hold on, bro.
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is it the negative reiki chair so he he wrote eight hours without a break is unprofessional
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and unacceptable sorry okay uh did you tell him he needs to leave though yeah yeah i told him i
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told him i was going to yeah yeah yeah is he gone i can't okay i'm gonna be like okay she's leaving
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uh you hold on uh so fucking ridiculous unacceptable bro unacceptable yeah and he's
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saying it's without a break bro she can get up whenever she wants if she needs food
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she can get up we got snacks she can she can use the bathroom this guy's saying he's gonna call
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the police that's fucking insane bro that's insane that's insane bro i don't even know what to do at
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this point because um here can you tell him that he needs to go downstairs and we need to confirm
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that he's downstairs can you tell him to just go downstairs and like we can see him okay yeah
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unbelievable bro holy fuck holy fuck i need a that's crazy bro
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huh i thought like how did he get up i mean let's not talk about that
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that's crazy bro i just want to let everybody know that i got up whenever i wanted and wasn't
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held hostage and like i used the restroom and like everything so yeah that's crazy i mean we
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tell the people like i'm sure you guys can uh so for example it's like uh you know we tell you how
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long it's going to last may go shorter or longer um so that's insane i haven't got up a single time
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and i feel fine yeah he's literally dming me like eight hours without a break is unprofessional
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and unacceptable sorry it's like yo you can do a little modicum of research and just like look at
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the how long the shows go um we've all right been live this whole time we're live she's fine
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she's gotten up um i think it's unprofessional for you to like be blowing up her phone
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banging on our door like that's crazy come on man i i'm not sure what the delay is on this though
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i'm sorry guys but i'm not when we have a security threat i'm not going to fuck in
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Okay, so my family is from Guatemala, okay, not Mexico, right, we have a, we're a known
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country, okay, but we have tamales in common, so the difference between a Mexican, oh shit,
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My family's from Guatemala, but most people assume I'm Mexican, right?
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But the difference between a Mexican tamal and a Guatemalan tamal is Guatemalan tamal is they're much fatter.
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actually fucking unhinged bro actually unhinged actually fucking unhinged we've had 2 000 plus
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women on the show like we're live streaming your wife is fine dude that's insane man all right um
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all right sorry chat total fucking buzzkill here i'm gonna adjust the seats here a little bit
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um okay you want to take this one out uh the evil chair because homegirl was sitting here
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and then i think we'll honestly we'll just leave it as is we're not gonna we'll just leave it as
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is all right sorry guys i'm sure that was kind of boring for you there while i was
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uh i'll just because the viewers are probably curious i'll just tell you what happened
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basically um and so i'm not looking at the instagram during the show like i have my
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instagram open but i'm like super chats engaging in the conversation questionnaire my notes
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like i'm not really looking at the instagram during the show and so at 11 p.m so it's right
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now midnight uh can i get an update on when the podcast is expected to end i can see your staff
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is online literally didn't see it uh and then he says if i don't hear from my wife within the next
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the fuck she's on a live stream like she's right there i don't understand um
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and then he knocks on the door like he obviously like there was the phone there so i'm confused
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like she checked her phone yeah i'm not talking about that i'm not talking about that
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um yeah yeah i gotta hold on let me uh do something really quick
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it doesn't make that makes no sense i don't think we've ever had we've done nearly 300
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episodes like this like we've never had somebody fucking come and do that that's that's insane
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absolutely insane um okay all right anyways well back to the show
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bro what the fuck is going on tonight man it's happened in three years and it's been two
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yeah i mean i don't know go ahead yeah i had had the same experience when i work with personal
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training you know like men would hire me as personal trainer but it was secretly to like
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get laid so i think it's i think it's kind of a common thing so you could say there is like
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it's complicated because in like a professional setting, like you are doing this collaboration
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and it can make someone feel uncomfortable if you're like shooting your shot or whatever.
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I understand that in the example that you're providing though, where I think men can sometimes
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look into something and you're proposing that you guys share a room together. Look, that can be done
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platonically but i you know i think you can avoid situations like that by bunking with women
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or like i wasn't there like uh i'm really not familiar with this this like streamer
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or something and like some girl fucked him it was consensual but like the tyle shit i don't know
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but some I don't know it's where she claimed that he like molested her or what something like that
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I don't know yeah um I would say I agree but I just didn't have a girl to bunk with honestly
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like and we were platonic before so and strictly platonic and so it just kind of came out of
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nowhere I would say yeah okay um all right uh moving on here in the questionnaire but women
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are oppressed in the USA so is there anything like government down on that I mean you could
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say just looking at like our presidents and stuff like that you could say that I don't know if you
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want to argue against that I don't know man I'm tired after everything that's happened I won't lie
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okay um does anyone else have any other like sort of disagreements or anything with the show
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Okay. Let's see if there's anything else here from the questionnaire.
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You say men are more privileged in society than women. Why is that?
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Same exact stuff as what I just said, I guess. Like, I don't know.
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I think men get more opportunities that aren't based out of, like, sexualization and stuff like that.
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Going to Jennifer, you wrote, a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
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I mean, I feel like in a sense and in this world today, it's like too many people are judged on weight.
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And what if she's trying to lose the weight and a guy likes her?
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I mean, you know, he might find that attractive.
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Christina, we also have something on this for you.
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Okay, but like, for example, right, let's say you're on a dating app and you see a woman who's overweight.
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Do you think it's wrong for men to reject her because of that?
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I mean, if he likes everything else about her, but it's just because of weight, yes, I think that is wrong.
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Because he might go out with her and really enjoy her personality.
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um let's see stop bumping the xlr cables fix the mic
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here can uh chat i'm gonna try i'm gonna troubleshoot the audio thing whose mic is
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throwing static wait chat chat is it still happening
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hold on i need to troubleshoot the microphone shit
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um is it like a specific microphone was anybody playing with the cord
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it's fine now oh it's hers this is mic one it says number one right here
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i'm tripping sorry that's seven no that's not it um i need you guys to be looking at the chat
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hold on i don't even know if it makes sense i guess you can mute the microphone so we have
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what are the numbers on those two i guess wait who's coming wait tina's coming back
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so okay tina's taking that so six and seven six seven eight yeah are you 100 sure yeah okay
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mute six and seven please i don't know if that's even going to fix it
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okay i need you guys to be paying attention to the chat so that we can
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just keep an eye on it i think it's fine now okay
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can you tell the future what's happening there's something weird
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I can tell you that can you hear the saxophones
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right now uh okay I'm gonna put it on members only mode
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no i don't know guys is the audio okay is the audio okay chat is it okay let me know if it's
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okay the audio is good now i think it's probably fine the only thing um okay i don't i could give
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them instructions but someone was moving around okay all right people are saying it's fine now
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check each mic okay keep keep me posted if it changes i'll leave it on members only mode for a
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bit all right i totally forgot where we were oh um okay so who was the one about the like wrong
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to reject a woman because of me it was me yeah can women reject men because of their height
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um i mean they could i guess but they could yeah i guess they could but it would be wrong it would
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be just like if uh i don't think it's wrong if a woman has a high preference i think that's okay
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maybe it might be sometimes it might be excessive you know yeah she's like i'll only date a guy who's
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six foot five i mean people can have their preferences it might be a bit unrealistic
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but i don't think it's unrealistic for a man to want to date a woman who's like not fat or obese
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right i mean they should get their preference first if they can but as long as it's um fair
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and they like the person they shouldn't make a judgment oh i'm not going to date a heavy girl
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because like oh my friends might think it's not right or whatever they should do it if they don't
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want to do that okay all right got it uh i think that's it for the questionnaire we have some notes
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that we have to get to um let's pull up that super chat for me and then i'll have you read
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it for me okay oh me okay yeah i liked her then not have a good one burritos man what does that
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mean uh liked which one uh they were talking about the girl that just left oh why is he a
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burrito man i eat burritos um it's uh i guess a inside joke a little bit uh it was brian people
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are saying it was me okay should be fine should be fine now uh all right thank you rabe for the
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canadian 200 appreciate it you can hide that all right let me see let me get through the show notes
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um what is a torta torta barbie someone asked me that earlier so a torta for latinos is
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a big bitch um but it's really a sound sorry a torta for latinos is a big bitch
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but it's really a sandwich and the way i like to describe it to people who don't understand that
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i'm assuming you guys are all white so it's like a hoagie
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a what okay sweet sweet uh all right uh you marie uh you in your instagram it says i hate judges
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what does that mean they always give the worst sentences it's like like okay if if i did if i
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if i defend myself i'm gonna get like 50 years in prison but like someone could do something
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terrible to me and they get like a slap on the wrist i hate judges i think that they're biased
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and i think we need to punish them if they like have like like kind of penalties for if they
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do something really like do a really bad decision you were in a relationship with a gay femme boy
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yeah that was the four year or three year relationship no oh okay so you dated a gay
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okay um you wanted to debate about this is a disagreement you have the idea that men being
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promiscuous isn't as reprehensible yeah i think if because i i think that guys okay so okay wait
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sorry at the same time i understand that women are like pre-selective so a lot of women they
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want like a guy who has experience i just think that a guy should not pander to those women and
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like have a bunch of sex and then and then judge women who also have a bunch of sex
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uh okay interesting interesting uh like i don't actually like guys with experience
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okay well i don't know do any other women like think that there's a double standard on this
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so if men are promiscuous it's a bit more acceptable than when women are is this wrong
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yeah yeah yep i think all kinds of double standards exist um they're sort of inevitable
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i think women want certain traits in men that they don't possess i think men want certain
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things in women that maybe they themselves don't possess um i don't so generally speaking i think
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promiscuity in men and women it's it's bad in both i think it's worse in women though
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i wouldn't say it's worse i just say there's a lot of women who are like kind of materialistic
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about love and they because like i actually don't want you know my boyfriend to bust out moves that
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he did on another woman but you're dating a 32 year old man yeah well more experienced yeah i
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know but the thing is that he regrets it if he was like oh yeah i don't regret doing any of that
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then i would have been like hard pass but because he's lying to you no no i know that he regrets it
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can tell by the way he like whenever i bring it up he doesn't want to talk about it and he's really
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like kind of he doesn't he's not proud of it wait you think a 32 year old man regrets having had
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sex with other people yeah he does what the fuck no he does yes he does he's a grown man
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those were bad people that he had it with that were taking advantage of him why the fuck would
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they take advantage of him because they're having
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and i think we can all say that because we've had the experience with men because you choose
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bad men i do choose bad you're right you're right but yeah i also didn't have the best
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father either so i'm gonna blame it on him you know you have dad issues too yeah my dad's a
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crackhead yeah no my dad is just like super autistic oh really but like really but like
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really really like autistic yeah yeah he cannot like he cannot have conversations like oh like
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asperger's yeah kind of yeah oh my god yeah is that illegal for your mom or did she develop it
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after i don't fucking know what my mom was doing with that man like my mom is cool i think that's
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I think some people exaggerate when it comes to Asperger's, in my opinion.
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Please pay attention because it's somewhat detailed.
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a small boat is out at sea with a man and a woman on it they're both 20 years old but you don't know
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either of them the boat is sinking now suspend a bit of disbelief here through limited magical
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powers you can drop a life preserver so as to save just one of them you definitively pick who
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receives the life preserver. They can't fight over it. You know, they can't trade it. Whoever
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you pick to get the lifesaver gets the lifesaver. Whoever you grant the life preserver to,
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they survive definitively. The other person will die. There are no loopholes. They can't hang on
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to the other person. One of them has to die. One of them lives. If you refuse to drop the life
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preserver they both die to whom do you give the life preserver the man or the woman
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uh probably the woman okay next the woman can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table please
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go ahead you the woman i'd randomly drop it i wouldn't pick wait hold on okay let me let me
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make this super simple change split how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning
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you notice how you didn't answer the question um okay so uh the question was how would you
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feel would i feel if i didn't have breakfast yes how would you feel i don't ever eat breakfast
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so i felt fine how would you how would you feel if however you categorize your first meal of the
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day how would you feel if you didn't have your first meal of the day hungry okay so the hypothetical
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there are no loopholes you can give it to the man you can give it to the woman whoever you give it
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to survives the other dies no loopholes if you refuse to drop it they both die which do you pick
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the man okay next i would pick the woman because she would be reproductive men can also reproduce
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but okay yeah but i i can't just let them die together
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yeah you can well yes you can make them both die if you refuse to drop it that's
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fucked up though a little bit die yikes okay this these are gonna be our chinese overlords
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this is the philosophical this is what we're we're dealing with okay she just lets them both
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die that's fucked up okay next based on her the man let the man die or no no i'm throwing it
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to the man he gets the life preserver okay next if it's about reproduction then i would say man
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it's not about oh okay well i mean you can interpret it however you want but nothing
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in the hypothetical mentions reproduction assume they're both capable of reproduction
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i'd say woman okay next the man next wait the man gets the preserve save the man yes gets the
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preserver okay interesting the man interesting interesting interesting okay i wrote that down
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that thought came to me the other day i wrote that hypothetical who would you save yeah well
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it's quite a dilemma isn't it um it's quite a dilemma the man uh just to balance y'all never
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I heard, like, save the women and children, y'all.
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Your ex cheated on you New Year's, and he got a happy ending massage, went to a strip club.
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He got mad at you for making his vent about you or whatever.
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He was sad because the stripper didn't text him back, LOL.
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well, you said one night stands are bad. Agree. Men's purity is just as important as women's
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purity. I disagree. Here's why. I'll make it super quick. This sort of ties into what's worse,
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promiscuity in men or promiscuity in women. Now, I know we have DNA tests today. However,
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going back before DNA tests, for hundreds of years, thousands of years, let me propose
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an example a woman has 10 husbands they're all loyal to her
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she's sleeping with all of them at the same time within the same period of time maybe not every
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single day she fucks all of them but in a three-day period she's fucking all of them and they're
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blasting she gets pregnant who's the father you don't know a man has 10 wives that are all
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loyal to him you know who the mother is in each instance and you know who the father is in each
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instance that's why men have a higher uh men are more invested in women's purity because a woman
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who's fucking other men who's promiscuous from this is a from an evo psych evolutionary psychology
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perspective this is why this is more important to men because if you get knocked up uh you know
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that the kid is yours as a woman we really like unless we get a paternity test and unless you got
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that woman under 24 7 surveillance you can never be 100 sure that the kid is yours right and so for
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this reason men have a stronger investment in female purity because you if you look maybe you
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don't know who the dad is if you're fucking a bunch of men but you know you're it's your biological
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kid and it's a big l for a man to raise a kid uh that that he he thinks is his i'm fine stepdads
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are fine i'm not saying that's wrong but a man who gets tricked into thinking that that's his kid
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but it's not, is one of the biggest L's a man can take.
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He's pouring in resources into a child that is not biologically his.
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And that's why men care about it more than women.
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Now, I'm not saying men, this isn't in the defense of male promiscuity,
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but it can perhaps paint a picture as to why men care more about this perhaps than women do.
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also final thing on that it's also just grosser no i will make another point
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you guys are not gonna like you guys are not gonna like this perhaps but if i have sex with
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a woman now let's um put stds aside let's assume and i'm for both examples when i give the example
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I understand what you're saying let me finish
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hold on. You're making some crazy claims. So, so if I have sex with a woman, by the way, and I pee
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and shower, you might be able to convince me that there's like a couple atoms of vagina juice that
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made it into the urethra or whatever. Sure. I'll go ahead and grant it. It probably stays in there
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and let a lot, I mean, it depends if I ejaculate after, but typically as a man, if you pee after
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sex you've like expelled you know most of it right in any case like we're talking uh the the
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urethra is so the male urethra is way smaller than the female vaginal canal so i take a shower
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i'm clean you are in the same exact a woman is in the exact same scenario and you have a man come
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inside of you women are not supposed to douche you're you're not supposed to use soap you're
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not even supposed to put water up inside the vagina you're gonna get uh you can get
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y'all don't wait y'all don't wash your pussies with water well hold on so you can wash hold on
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you can wash the external like you can wash you put water up into your vagina i'm pretty sure
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doctors are fine if no listen listen that's not i'm in the sex industry so let me let me talk
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yikes douches are fine as long as you don't use what comes inside the douche if you use just water
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you'll be fine like i swear to god like yeah can we do a google uh a google search water will not
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affect is it okay is it google it you're supposed to wash it changes your you can get yeast you're
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gonna fuck up your bacteria high uh equilibrium you're gonna get uh there's i forgot the names of
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it but uh yeast infections there's um i'm trying to remember there's an like okay just that's if
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you're using a douche no just water here google it um after sex is it okay if i wash use water
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to wash inside of my vagina just google it just google it your fake vagina
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all right pull it up once you have it please
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all right make sure there's no like images that pop up or anything it should just be the ai
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overview are we good okay go ahead uh no you should never wash inside your hold on
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it doesn't say with just water no it's with just water with just water because you're not
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supposed to use soap or douche uh we know that say with just water okay that's fine we'll do that
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look i've looked into this you're not supposed to do it gynecologists recommend against it go
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ahead and pull it up how am i educating no you should never wash inside even with just water
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damn this girl yeah no offense you're i don't know for me i got i obviously not every single
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time i shower i got my fingers up there or whatever but like once in a while like if i
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it came in or whatever i'm not gonna let that shit just sit in there like i'm gonna wash your
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body naturally well the cum is gonna fuck my ph either so that's so squeeze it out i i do like
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i go take a shower squeeze it out i pee everything but if i get finished with water is not healthy
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it doesn't matter i don't do it i don't do that i just know that so you can do a colonoscopy
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right because it's different uh internally on both ends yeah she's rn i did lbn it's it's a no so
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you're saying you do that i believe that most women like it's advised against by gynecologists
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google says not to do it maybe you do it even granting in this scenario that the woman is
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putting water up in there and not using anything else the i mean to be a bit graphic here the
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the vagina uh i'm trying to think of the right word laura the the canal no no no no it's um
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the tissue the vagina tissue is uh is a bit mucosal so it like like the it's weird
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the penis material the penis tissue is different in nature than the vaginal tissue vaginal tissue
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is more i don't know if porous is the right word but it's a bit more absorbent there's nooks and
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crannies up in there like yeah it's it's different vagina is like the same as the outside of a penis
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like the outer you're talking about like the whole of the penis oh if a guy comes inside you is he
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coming on the outside of your vagina no no but i'm just saying i agree with you that it might
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be slightly harder for women to like no not just slightly harder yeah it can be science but i i
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can't believe i'm debating for me like i at least i think when you're like fucking a bitch okay here
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can we test throughout the time not me you don't play can we test this okay look let's i i'll go
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first i have ejaculated inside of a woman can you women raise your hands has a man ever come inside
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you now do you immediately jump into the shower at any point in the preceding 24 hours and use
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the fucking shower head to jettison water into your vagina to get the come out do you women do
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that like do you do that or do you just let the cum be inside there is it okay with the blood i
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don't let the cum be inside there either okay well but okay so you're the outlier we're not
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going to have an argument from an outlier you guys squeeze it out right y'all go to the bathroom
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it's still in there bruv yeah the the dna say that is the same way you could say when you're
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fucking a girl i'm sorry but shit is gonna secrete into the dick and shit's gonna absorb
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but it's at a very smaller rate than it is for a vagina i agree mind you look at the distance of
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where the cum is you know at the end of your vagina yeah right where your cervix is so for
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them their shit is right at the tip yeah but so you don't know your fucking stuff can go okay
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ours is internal theirs is external yeah no baby there's a hole in the dick that
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but for our students to get in there when they're the ones that are shooting it out to us
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very minimal okay so if i'm willing to grant that yes some vaginal fluid enters the the penile
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urethra is it this is it the same amount of genetic material that enters the penile urethra
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as when a man ejaculates inside a woman no no okay now there's two other factors here that
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we have to consider um uh how do i frame this gee oh my god i can't believe i'm articulating this
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uh okay um women don't urinate outside like um through their vaginal canal women also have
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urethra yes that's it's like just below the clit basically a little bit below the clit
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above the vagina below the clit um women do not urinate through their vagina expelling
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uh male sperm whereas even if i grant that vaginal fluid enters the male penile urethra
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through urination and it's such a smaller it's such a smaller amount it's ejected after urination
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yes some can be ejected but it's gonna be absorbed while you're fucking like i like that's what i'm
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i get where you're coming from a thousand percent and how ejaculating and imping but
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If I shower after I have sex with a woman and I go fuck another woman, the dick is basically good as new.
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yes you could say it's less gross but in my oh i guess you could say it's less gross but in my
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opinion i think nobody should be going dick in the dick dick in the pussy dick in the you know
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like i think just stay with one person bro like i don't know it's gross either way if a man doesn't
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but the difference is like if a woman has recently fucked another guy like i can literally have sex
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with a woman and not that I would do this, but just to emphasize the point, I can have sex with
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a woman. I can hop in the shower and pee and I can soap too, by the way, I can soap, I can rinse,
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I can use, I mean, I don't recommend it, but you can even use hand sanitizer. You can even put
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alcohol on your dick. It's, you know, maybe stings a teeny bit, but you can literally sit like
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I'm going to drop some hand sanitizer on that thing
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of genetic material from girl number one to girl number two you fuck a guy there's more for me you
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fuck a guy and he comes inside you hold on hold on you you fuck a guy and there's come inside you
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and you fuck another guy that guy's dick is coming into contact with another man's
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genetic it's disgusting fucking gross disgusting that's why promise cutie in women is worse
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thank you very much appreciate it cheers yeah do you agree to disagree there's no you're just wrong
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how about that okay how about that you're just wrong okay devil's advocate like i could fuck her
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watch my shit fuck you watch my shit fuck you watch my shit from like a medical standpoint
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shit gets inside your dick and you absorb it you're hung up into another girl you're gonna
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transfer whatever she put inside of you into that next girl like i get i get what you're saying yes
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it's grosser for a woman i totally agree with you there but you can't say as a man you won't
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transfer anything if you go from one bitch you know i don't know the specifics my understanding
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is look it's possible that there's like do you know what how small an atom is like there's literally
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we're we're to the the load no pun intended the actual load is i don't even know why oh my god
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and my life now okay holy shit moving on i can't do this i gotta move this shit on that's crazy
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oh shit man mine is it mine i feel like somebody's like pulling on the court here
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let's do this let me demonstrate for you guys do you guys see this thing yes this thing here
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this not not this fucking thing not that this push it up into them oh my god bro imagine that's
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a dick and that's your pussy push this shit holy fuck now we get it two or six six is off apparently
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can you push those two up there's something weird going on
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i don't i don't drink booze i don't i don't go to strip club i don't gamble well unless you count
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that i gambled like once or twice um i stress eat i'm a stress eater man and these sometimes y'all
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stressing me out okay anyways moving on uh uh okay marie
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you don't think men will call women sluts you don't like when men call women sluts and then
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watch porn it's hypocritical and sadistic yeah it is okay because okay because it's it's kind of
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weird when like okay only let me think because you're gonna slut shame women who make porn it's
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like they're hurting themselves because you know people care about like men care more about women's
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virginity and purity and stuff so they're hurting themselves by that logic for your entertainment
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so you're gonna slut shame them and then the next thing you're gonna do is you're gonna like
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goon to it that's weird i mean i think it's i think uh generally speaking i think generally
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porn is bad for men men should not watch porn especially in a relationship outside of a
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relationship i don't really give a fuck but if you're in a relationship you should be saving
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your sexual energy for your girlfriend but uh yeah i'm not going to push back too much on that
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uh you what gives you the ick gold chains picky eaters red bottoms guys over five foot ten what
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okay okay i'll explain it i don't like gold chains because it's always young guys wearing
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gold chains and it's like why are you wearing a gold chain you're a man sorry you're a man yeah
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continue you're you're a man next picky eaters okay i get that what's red bottoms okay red
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bottoms are shoes the the heels with the red on the bottom that are like a scam because they say
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like oh like you're i'm spreading my or i'm like you know painting the town red because like the
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bottom of the shoe like the red comes off as you walk like but then they have made them for men
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and it's just you know okay what about guys over 5 10 why is that oh because girls will like fuck
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anyone who's tall so if i'm with a tall guy i'm kind of scared that he's gonna cheat on me
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that's a new one uh okay just so you know oh i know but you know i don't want women flocking
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him because he could look like anything but if he's like six feet tall but couldn't not here
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here's perhaps a slight counter argument um the more attractive the guy is the more options he has
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uh the i tend to think like guys who as they become more attractive and they they never
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there's no pussy scarcity i think those guys are more more loyal because guys who struggle to get
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laid will be more tempted to cheat because like well i could go either way i don't know
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i just don't want people looking at it i could go i think i could see it going either way
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but you could argue that the guy who's like just really attractive he's not like pressed to
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like guys who struggle to get pussy they're like they'll take any opportunity for pussy
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but guys who have options they're going to be more selective and if they're in a relationship
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they're like i don't know anyways whatever uh mystic china you're very youthful 58
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uh we talked about the clairvoyance stuff uh we talked about that you went
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um i actually went to the number one before the show went to the number one rated psychic in
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in santa barbara did you and they told me that they sensed something about me
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that i would do a show tonight and all the women
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after the show would solicit me for an orgy besides you and you
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thank you my boyfriend's watching and i would have said that fucking that girl
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so i don't know do you guys want to contradict fate or one two three four
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but some of y'all are in relationships i'll just take the single i'll take the single woman i'll
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do i'll take one for the team okay good talk wait is this a joke oh you're down no no like did you
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actually and you know what yeah and she also told me but the one woman who will engage in the
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seven some with you the one that's gonna you're gonna have an eye for is the rock climber oh my
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god yeah and she was like you're gonna be baby daddy number three oh this is cute or wait you
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have it's does someone else hair climb they must oh shit okay anyways uh okay you communicate with
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different aliens we talked about that uh you said your ex-husband named his business after your feet
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well not really after my feet but no he named it after me but um yeah he's rich
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but yeah that it wasn't after my feet oh okay maybe i misunderstood you were in a relationship
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with a guy like you dated some famous musicians i guess or yeah okay yeah i have you love girls
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they're yummy and you said uh well who's the yummiest of the yummy here oh i don't know
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i feel like you kind of like a thick girl like torta over there would you everybody's beautiful
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here is there one that you prefer or awkward okay i'm putting you on the spot my bad uh you said
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you feel the bible's dreadfully misinterpreted why is that i just feel that um well there's a
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lot of what they saw and what they say they saw and did see, maybe, I feel like it was
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I feel that the real forefathers were from space and from seeds from other planets is
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your notes we're going to blast through these move in here pretty quick um let's see can you
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open the door more for me please um oh the thing she posted to her story let's pull that up
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let's pull that up somebody says they dated you in the chat oh my god uh-oh i'm not i want i won't
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do i won't go there um pull it up no because i just say stuff can you read this for us no pull
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that can you read this um being a woman is like would you rather be dehumanized for being sexy
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or for being ugly explain that so i feel like guys like always judge women based off how they
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look so it's like if you're too good looking then you're a hoe or slut and then if you're ugly it's
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like you're not worth anything because you're too ugly. I think men are pretty forgiving when
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it comes to looks. I think women are actually way harsher in the sense that, well, maybe here I can
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ask this. What percentage of men do you think are attractive? And let's be fair. Let's do like the
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age range you would date. So I'm not asking you to be like, obviously there's men who are like 50
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who you don't want to date but of the like age range you would date what percentage of them do
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you think are attractive physically the age range i would date no what okay of the age range you
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would date what percentage of them are attractive like do you think 50 of the men that you'd be okay
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dating in terms of their age like just off their age what percentage of them do you think are
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attractive um 60 70 okay all right for me yeah i'd say like 5 10 5 to 10 what about you i'd say
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about um 50 30 okay 20 20 1 percent mike 1 oh boy do you wait oh i had a good question okay okay
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i'll come back to that what about you um i'd say about 50 all right one percent for my boyfriend
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next five to ten next i i don't know when one percent all right she only dates guys who hang
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out in vtuber discords all right no it's because like i don't do i don't i don't see it like that
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like people you only look for men who know how to perform anal sex no it's just that's what she
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looks no it's tina tina i got my crosshairs on you uh okay you so we're let's talk a little bit
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about your type here uh so you're an asian woman i believe do i have that correct i just want to
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make sure i don't want to assume your ethnicity tough crowd tonight um okay tina wait hold on
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over a asian guy okay what about just like a normal black guy a no a no okay uh would you
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rather date an indian man or an asian man asian would you rather date an arabic man or an asian
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man i don't know maybe like middle eastern basically sort of
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okay would you rather date a latino man or an asian man latino would you rather date a
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white man or an asian man white nathan you've got a chance okay do you think he's cute my producer
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sorry which one oh yeah tiffany that the female right there do you think
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tiffany yeah would you i love her yeah she's pretty she's pretty cool even though i'm mean to
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her sometimes she also likes kanye west funny enough she's got a tat she's got a kanye tattoo
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i don't know if she wants to date the guy but she she's a fan she likes kanye is she bisexual
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or straight oh i think tiffany's straight as far as i know sorry sorry to burst your bubble there
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okay we're uh going back to adri gone going back to wait hold on wait uh we were at oh kaya okay
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oh the thing that we were reacting to yeah oh that like okay women are sexualized better to be
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like like they're dehumanized dehumanized women are dehuman i feel us men we're dehumanized shit
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dehumanize me all day well yeah i think it goes i think it's both ways damn like
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anyways okay uh i'm gonna move it on just for the sake of time you've dated an older man for
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a couple years a couple years was that the 2.5 year guy no that was a different guy so i bro
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oh okay um yeah i've dated an older man you wanted to discuss gender roles in relationship
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in marriage and family what's that like i think men and women have different roles when it comes
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to like dating and are these good bad neutral like i think men have like the role to provide
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and be protective and then the woman more submissive is that the dynamic you want yeah
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okay and you think and you're fine with that yeah uh interesting interesting
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i kind of want you to be my mother-in-law not gonna lie
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i got you i'm kidding um i feel like you'd be very intense but also a lot of fun
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we i would kick it more with you than i with no offense like you're kind of it always happens that
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way all her boyfriends just hang out with you and talk about aliens and shit it's happened a lot
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oh shit okay all right anyways uh you disagree with the top okay we already talked about body
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count um frustrates with you with dating men don't take charge and planning on the date they
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always ask the girl oh yeah that's lame agreed what they want to do instead of being the one
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but can i ask you a question on this what if if you had to choose between the two extremes so
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the guy who's a pushover a little bit not a pushover but the guy who's always deferring to
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you so every time when it comes to dinner he's like whatever you want babe that or the guy who
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never asks for your input but he always knows what he wants he always knows what he wants to eat
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i don't know i always know i don't know i always know i don't i mean you know look i'm a nice guy
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you know sometimes if she want you know every maybe on anniversary she can have input
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maybe her birthday she can have input but i mean i don't really tripoli easy
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You said you don't like that guys aren't dominant enough and don't tell you what to do
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So do you walk all over men in your relationships?
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um well like my my first boyfriend that was that was different because we were like that
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was my first boyfriend we met when we were really young i was like only 17 so but so you like
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okay but you said you don't like it uh you said they let you walk all over them what are you
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referencing no not i'm not saying me i'm saying like in general you don't like that okay yeah
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in general like i don't like guy that a guy that lets woman do that uh okay and uh let's see
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uh you prefer a man that stands up for themselves okay um what about if you were dating a guy and
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he was like you need to quit your only fans right now no but you want a guy to be dominant
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would want to want me to stop i would date a guy like that what if he was uh made good money and
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he was like you don't have to do that anymore well i've had that i'll take care of you i already
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had that opportunity okay but i just i don't want to be like settled down so what do you want to do
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you're 22 right yeah how long you've been doing only fans um only for a couple months do you do
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boy-girl content no have you done any boy-girl content um i have but not like actual sex like
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what like handjob and it's on camera blowjob no just who pays for handjob videos what the fuck
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well i haven't really done anything with anyone it's mainly just me on there like okay
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okay um you mostly do solo all right uh let's see there are some clothing items that men wear
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that you're not attracted to you don't think men should wear crocs doesn't look right you prefer
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men to wear boots or sneakers you don't like flip-flops either unless we're like going to
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the beach i think a guy should not have a mohawk or ponytail i i kind of agree with the the flip-flops
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thing like i think men need to be ready you got to have sneakers on if you're out in public
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like if shit hits the fan you can't be in flip-flops you need a i don't know you got to be
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ready shit could pop off any minute you can't be caught in public especially like i mean she knows
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you got well you know like the the socks and the sandals your shit's fucked you're dead you might
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as well be dead if you're con um i need to take a uh i need to step away for two minutes uh talk
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about ix talk about ix while i'll be right back and uh navigate this but talk about ix go ahead
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guys take it away girl power it's also gross to me i couldn't date a guy who's okay with circumcising
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kids actually would be okay with that yes i'm cleaner it's yeah but it's still something they
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can do as an adult they have i agree but it's more painful yes like yeah but if it's not gonna
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have yeah but yeah i mean subconscious memory and also if it's not worth the pain then it wasn't
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worth it in the first place it doesn't have to be circumcised like everybody's preference yeah i
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I mean, it's not, like, okay, like, my boyfriend is...
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Look at me and take the choice when he's old enough, you know?
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Like, if a guy was even remotely okay, like, with us doing that to our son, I would be, like, you know.
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It also removes, like, thousands of nerve endings.
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and also the cleaning thing is like you can just
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there's like a guideline you know you have like
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i don't think i have any um is it like does stinky breath count as it oh yeah yeah sure
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yeah okay yeah i guess or like when they don't have nice teeth
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yeah uh i told you my scary story like his teeth that's a big egg yeah teeth
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i felt so bad for him because you know he was very attractive but it was like i couldn't do
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the teeth thing but the teeth thing is my trauma because i didn't have straight teeth growing up
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you know so like it's a it's immediate at the end of the day like i don't want something you
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know what i mean like even though i'm fat i can't date someone that's fat it's mean i know but
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it's like same with me like i know i'm like skinny but i don't really want to date a guy
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that skinny i want them to be bigger yeah yeah fair enough it's preference yeah everybody has
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their preferences yeah any others i have an ick where it's like mama boys do you guys like
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yeah no i already experienced that yeah me too i don't know i don't think i've ever experienced
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that but i know my boyfriend really loves his mom but he's not like sucky up to her like he's just
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respectful and kind and yeah that's different that's not like mama boy like if he does something
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wrong then she'll defend it no matter what kind of thing like not like mama boy is like you know
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every single thing she says it's like it has to go that way it's like at what point are you a man
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I haven't been to In-N-Out since I've been here.
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I didn't even know I wouldn't be here this late.
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i didn't either that was ending at 11. i don't know i'm not from the area so i don't know where
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i have snickers in the car i brought snacks like they're in the car
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all right the patriarchy returns to the table to guide with the gentle guiding hand of a male
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You know, we've got, like, the collective female brain power here.
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This is strange that women can't, I feel like y'all women kind of, you know, talk.
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And why is it, I almost feel like I'm in my feminine here.
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Like, I'm the one yapping, and you guys are all here, y'all women, and y'all ain't even saying anything.
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Tiffany always looks at me through that side of her eyes
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this one time Tiffany actually did threaten to murder
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That fucking lady cast some spell or some shit
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uh i got my home girl who wait the ick list oh kaya k-dog you're oh no i wasn't okay fine
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your ig bio says you believe in the universe or believe believe in the universe what does that
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mean like i believe do we need popsicles these girls need popsicles stat so i believe like who
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wants a popsicle okay get tina a popsicle get her a popsicle and get them to a popsicle all right
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four popsicles and get her a popsicle don't stick it never mind okay what don't you can't
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hey make sure she doesn't go in the bathroom with it though don't don't let her go in the bathroom
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with the popsicle okay she's into some weird shit no okay so anyways um oh what does believe
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in the universe what does that mean so i like believe universe like is our like power like our
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Do you think the universe created the universe?
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no there's a different marie wait marie oh marie my danish homie
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those danish people go hard you know what do you want to ask me uh you have something about
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only fans boyfriend story but for sake of time can you like quick bullet point the
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only fans boyfriend story that's what i have in my notes this is not my story i think marie
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it's not your story you didn't have like some boyfriend who had an issue with you doing only
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fans or something ah yeah but i dumped him long ago okay you say why men say they want an
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independent woman until she doesn't need him to pay for dinner fix her problems or validate
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her existence then suddenly she's too much that's your notes exactly men don't say they want
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independent women though women say they they want to be independent women i heard that i heard that
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and one independent woman i had maybe danish guys who want to go 50 50 and like you peg them or
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whatever but like i don't think it's wrong like i look i want a woman who has a degree of
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competence but it's okay for a woman to depend on me and perhaps i can depend on my woman in
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certain ways and i think that's okay but this idea that we we she's got to be independent it's like
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it's okay for my girl to lean on me that's all right that's the first time i've heard that
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that's what that's like what maybe i should move here actually well yeah i mean in scandinavia you
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guys are fucking dude i'm fucking tired of being independent dude sometimes it's too much can we
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save her boys i don't know she might be too far gone do you do boy girl content do you do boy
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girl content why you want to participate oh whoa you'd have to pay me like for a woman to actually
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i'd have to be paid million like tens of millions of dollars probably it could be sold for tens of
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millions of dollars pornographic nah even then i've got principles i do not want my shit
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maybe for a billion i'll do that jim oh no what's my you know you know look chat
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chat's not gonna like this i feel like everyone has their price right yeah do i make release a
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pornographic film for a billion dollars the chat's not gonna like this
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look the chat might lose respect for me for this but you won't lose respect for me in the following
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way i will always be honest even if it makes me look like a fucking idiot i will always be honest
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day with something in the world thank you you're right yeah that's how much it's gonna take for me
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to lose weight by the way anyway there's a lot there's a lot of fat there just kidding i'm you
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know it's i'm a little chubby you know okay anyways good talk uh yeah don't care about like
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the independent thing i don't know from my perspective i'm a high earner don't really
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care about a woman's money a lot i don't need to be independent who says that you danish you
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scandinavians yeah maybe that's the fucking problem like the date look here's my perspective
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on scandinavia you guys are uh you guys have great countries for now very handsome people
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the scandinavians the the swedes the norwegians a little bit the danes no offense i don't know
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they're very handsome people they're very good looking people you know the blue eyes and you
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know they're they're very uh good looking you're letting in oh my god am i really you're letting
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in too many immigrants i totally agree you're letting the and look there's giga chad scandinavian
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men in sweden in norway but there's a lot of feminists there a lot of feminists and the
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feminists are blocking their men are the feminists as well you know some of them because they know
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you know what i think well i don't i don't know i'd like to talk to some swedish men or some
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shit we need some giga chad men to retake europe what this has to end i don't i shouldn't get into
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this but dude you you know it's not only scania like i live in spain it's fucking morocco like
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spain has become morocco it's terrible everywhere it is terrible it's fucking terrible so i was
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born i'm actually european well in the sense that i was born in france and then i moved to the united
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states when i was five and i remember i have vivid memories of the eiffel tower vivid memories of
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going to eiffel tower when i was i don't know four or five something like this my parents took me by
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the hand walking along the grounds in paris this must have been i mean in the early mid 90s
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i went back in 2014 and it's 2014 that's plus 10 years ago now it's probably worse
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it was completely different in paris paris is completely lost most of the major cities
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in europe are completely lost and i would never go to france like it's a mile yeah i would never
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go it's fucking terrible but i remember when i was a kid as well there there weren't so when i
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went in 2014 there were uh at the eiffel tower because there's around this time there were a lot
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of terrorist attacks in the in paris or in france there were things were like there were fences and
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there were uh soldiers i think they're called the gender marie or something they're soldiers with
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guns all over the eiffel tower well why are you shaking your head motherfucker hey hey chill out
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Get her another popsicle. Get her a fucking popsicle.
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You need some pizza? We got some pizza, I think.
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But they will be so big, you know, and so powerful.
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exactly yeah that's right i like where he has that anyways the what the what sorry what is that
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i'm fucking with you okay um red and green flags in relationships uh you like to go to the club
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as you personally ew gross red flag i like to go to the club yeah a woman should never step foot
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in a nightclub it is haram it is she belongs to the streets haram get the rocks abdul yeah
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what if you go to a nightclub with your boyfriend oh even worse a woman
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should be in my garden tending to my trees have you fucking seen me with a plant
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it's really easy there's a hose and i'll tell you how long you have to water each of the trees
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very simple a woman should be in my garden watering my trees not at the nightclub i like
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gardening so love that for you okay uh you said you think the show and the girls on there sometimes
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acts like a woman having standards is a personality disorder like if she knows what
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she wants and won't settle she must be broken or difficult or the problem
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a girl having standards is a personality disorder that's what you wrote yes well i don't think like
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okay so whatever is going on with tina i love her she's my favorite chinese spy
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20 million dollars a year come on that's crazy exactly
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yeah it is crazy oh okay so you agree not in everything but who the fuck has 20 million
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dollars no it's not crazy who the name is not a celebrity i date with that kind of man before
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20 million dollars is a shit ton of money dude he's born like rich and he's celebrity too so
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Tina, can you scoot that way into the table, I guess?
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What if I'm going to find a guy that has $20 million, you know?
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As representative for the male delegation, Tina,
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his name is some ting wong he has um he had the height surgery so he his height surgery um he's um
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he makes he makes 175 000 a year that's pretty good 175 000 a year
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big dick though but you're asian so i don't know okay whoa what the fuck sorry sorry sometimes i
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say things never mind getting i'm so embarrassed oh my god so anyways uh so
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for like married or date marriage no he's a good guy he's a good guy no i think i'm gonna
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only do one night stand with that kind of oh boy okay all right i tried i tried boys i tried
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uh you wrote you think brian knows deep down that the woman who doesn't need him
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is way more interesting than one who does he just won't say it on camera that's what you wrote
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why is that you really think a woman who is 100 dependent on you
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like a woman that's kind of helpless is more attractive than a woman that does not need you
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uh i don't know if i accept the framing there um like would you rather a helpless woman
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who needs to rely on you or a woman that well what do we mean by doesn't need you but wants you
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because she is with you because she likes you but she doesn't need you.
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I would rather date a woman whose ambition is directed towards the family.
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Her ambition is directed towards taking care of me and our kids together.
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Versus dating a woman whose primary focus is advancing in her career.
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but isn't it more like nice to have a woman who's with you because she wants to be with you rather
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than that she's dependent on you that she needs you if you have a woman who's 100 dependent on
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her like she can do everything her own then you know she's with you because she wants to be with
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you well i think you just replace then the reasons why she's with you so um then she's with you for
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what reason then she's with you because you're good looking or she's with you because she's in
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love with you she wants a family with you she wants you but she doesn't need you she has all
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her own stuff she's able to take care i think a woman can have genuine love for a man who's a
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provider i don't think these things are mutually these things are not mutually exclusive i understand
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what you're saying because i know a lot of women that like will just like like i know like some
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NFL player girlfriends and stuff like that and they just let their men fucking cheat on them
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because they provide everything and they don't really like I've literally talked to these girls
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and they'll be like bitch I don't give a fuck I don't even like it that much anyway so you pays
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my rent like what like that's what I'm saying a lot of girls like are superficial like that if
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you are providing for overly providing for them they will take advantage of you exactly rather
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than if you have a woman who has her own money her own car but she's with you because she loves
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you yeah well i mean look um obviously if you're going to be dating somebody what have they been
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up to before you meet them so if she's like if i'm dating a 25 year old what is she supposed to
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do just fucking nothing uh so it's not inherently a negative thing if she has pursued a career in
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that point. But if this is a woman who I'm looking to have children with, and if I want to, I want a
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big family. And you guys might object to that. You might want one kid or two kids or three kids.
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As somebody, I had great parents. They're together. They're in love. They're wonderful parents.
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One of the things that, and it's not their fault really, but my family is very small.
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all my grandparents are dead I have some cousins on the east coast some cousins
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some cousins in in France I want a large family right and I want a woman whose priority is
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taking care of me taking care of the household taking care of the kids
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now look even with two kids that's a lot of work and I don't even if we only have two kids
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I want her attention to be primarily on the kids and the household and me.
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I don't want her to be preoccupied with a career.
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Now, before we meet, sure, you need money to survive.
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But a woman who prioritizes career over children and family, I don't think that's the right one for me anyways.
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and look i think as a woman your family should come first over your career as a man as well
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well it but providing for your family also you need to prioritize your career but provide you
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need to prioritize i think i think you need as a man to prioritize your career because you want
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to provide for family know what i mean well i think it's if the indirectly the family is the
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first priority for both well sure of course if your family needed you in some way and you were
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in a financial position as a man to take time away from work and your wife was ill and you
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needed to step away for a moment you had an ill child like it was going to be a long illness or
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whatever and you could financially hold things down with you know you could step away from work
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for a bit I think that's that's fine but I think the ideal scenario would be like I want my I don't
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want a woman who wants to get back to work within a a year of giving birth or whatever like she
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should be like but for the entirety like i i honestly want to homeschool my kids i don't
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want to send my kids off to go get trans fucking send my kids to a school here man they're shooting
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up those things well there's that i mean that it's a small risk but yes there's a there there
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is a violent um shootings and whatnot happening at schools but i mean my bigger concern is i think
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that um well before school before school what the fuck uh sorry i was reading the super chat
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i don't want to send my children to daycare i don't want to send my children to
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uh you know have some minimum wage worker or some woman who's getting paid 20 dollars
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not change the diapers as often as they need to not feed them as often as they need to
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be distracted when you know maybe you should be looking after the kids i think the best person
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to take care of my kids is my wife that's the best person look frankly i i'm gonna retire early
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honestly so i'll work for a bit but i'm gonna be there actually to help my wife take care of the
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kids. Cause I'll probably retire early or work part-time at some point. And like, I don't know,
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I'll be a, I'm going to be a very involved father and I want to raise my kids to have a good, um,
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to be strong, to be intelligent, to have a, a moral guiding to them, to bestow upon them,
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certain life lessons and spend time with them. But yes, I do think that if the woman's ambitions
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are, I want to go back to work and I have this goal of some career achievement and we're going
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to put our kids in daycare. That's ridiculous. She's the best one. And that's not, that's me
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viewing my wife sorry i should oh i'm not getting married my girlfriend sounds so stupid whoever i'm
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with whoever i have kids with she's the best one to take care of the kids not some minimum wage
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not some minimum wage uh consuela no offense i want her raising our kids i want and then going
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into school age she she should be homeschooling i don't want the government school to i don't know
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have some bullshit propaganda they're gonna fucking trans the kids or something like that
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i don't know or you know what i might send them to public school because maybe it'll
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you got to go through the the fire of public school i don't we'll see we'll see
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bullying builds personality i'm not entirely sure about the homeschooling thing um i think as long
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as we have good oversight over our kids i think i would prefer to do homeschooling but anyways
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that's besides the point um did you have a response on any of that or no everyone is entitled
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to their own opinions you want a traditional family that's fair i have a question yeah um
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just to like follow up with that and kind of tying back into a conversation we were having
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earlier how would you feel like you know wanting a traditional wife if she if y'all were to get
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divorced and she were to ask for like child support and alimony and all that stuff because
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you were her provider how would you feel like do you think that's okay uh well if we have children
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child support is there's no escaping that i'm not going to get married um so that's just off the
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table uh so the alimony thing that's not if you were to get married the only woman not maybe not
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you a man the only time i would ever marry is if she was made more than me but i don't care about
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the woman's money but that is a circumstance where i would get married okay um okay you didn't uh
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traditional let's say not necessarily you it's not necessarily can you center the mic oh yeah
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Yeah. Let's say it's not necessarily you, but it's like your traditional relationship, you know, where the man provides for everything and the wife is a stay-at-home wife, takes care of all the kids.
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How would you, like, do you think it's okay for, at that point, for her to ask for alimony and stuff like that, since he was the main provider for everything?
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This is very context and situationally dependent, but I think that, look, you okay?
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you all right okay we have ice packs if you need uh poor poor tina poor tina uh okay so to answer
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your question who look whoever i end up having kids with i'm never leaving her like i mean look
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she if look things relationships can break down i i don't even want to consider that yeah like
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she'd have like there'd have to be some crazy shit going on there'd have to be some insane
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and look that happens in relationships but so yes in the event that we were to split up whether
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it's my fault her fault whatever uh i think for i think it's fair even without government
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involvement assuming that you know she stepped away from work if she was working and she focused
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her time on the on the family and the kids in that circumstance i think there is a reasonable
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time period where you can financially assist her now i reject sometimes if for example in california
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if you're married for longer than 10 years it can be lifetime alimony i think that's crazy i think
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that's crazy right so um i don't know what sometimes they say for every uh two years married
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it's one year support maybe that could be the case i truthfully i think maybe there should be
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some hard cap that i would voluntarily do i'll be like okay and it depends maybe on the age of the
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kids you know um like if the kids are adults and we split up i could see maybe helping her out for
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a year maybe two if there's if the kids are still younger i mean child support is going to be in the
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picture and i would voluntarily maybe pay up to three years i think beyond three years
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i think that's reasonable for a woman to get back you can get back on your feet in three years time
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i'd voluntarily help you out a bit but um yeah okay um i have more do i have more notes oh i
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have more notes for the danish gal we have ashley canadian your ex-boyfriend cheated on you and
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cried yeah he did you dump him or stay with him no i i broke up with him because he um
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he wanted to be with his ex and you were previously married yes can you talk about that
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yeah i got married when i was 19 i thought i was gay for like two years so you got married
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to a woman yeah okay uh i'm not i'm straight i was just very confused you divorced yes yeah
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was there alimony in that no it was like we literally we got married and then like seven
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months later okay uh okay going back to you final thing for you you had a tweet that i saw you'll
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never have to do any drugs because the rush you get from making men useful will never compare to
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anything in this world yikes that's maybe a bit crazy to say you did say it though
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yes so how do you make men useful by giving you money
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they don't necessarily have to do something for me you know what i mean
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were there some sexual undertones there i don't it's i don't know okay all right
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it's not about anything materialistic uh-huh i don't need anything materialistic from all right
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um ashley going back to you you your first dating experience you were 12 when you lost your virginity
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oh okay but this was um you didn't want to wait okay you did not want to have sex
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but you were nervous and you said yes yeah i was so young and i i just thought we were gonna like
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kiss or something and then how old was the guy he was 16 oh hell straight to jail
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that's a yikes yeah it was really really really bad that's straight to do and i didn't like i
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didn't want to do it but you know when you're like so nervous and you're like you don't want
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to say yes but you don't want to say no yeah i was yeah so like you i mean it's like statutory
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i don't know it's um oh because the age of consent is younger it's in canada but you're still
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there but i was 12 yeah no i i'm just to be clear yeah that's obviously wrong i'm just i'm unfamiliar
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with the how canada does that but holy fuck um but you are saying that you you did like
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semi-consent to it yeah obviously it's statutory rape but um yeah do you know what the term
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fawning is do you know what the term fawning is no so fawning is like when you like give in
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kind of and so i like was he being pushy is that what you're like he was being pushy about it i
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don't know i mean kind of but i was just really nervous and i think i'm i was just like a little
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people pleaser and i i don't know that's kind of what fawning is yeah i don't know if they want to
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look up the I'll move I'll move on but um first anything oh shit fucking tina oh you got boy
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shorts okay I was tripping okay she's got boy shorts on that's fine uh big brother had uh okay
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there was a whole bunch of drama like in your town it was a big drama um you got bullied over
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this which is crazy sorry to hear that happened um your brother punched him in a chinese food
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restaurant owned by tina just kidding what i don't know okay um yeah the trans thing blows your
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mind no like the when trans people will say that they don't have to disclose whether they are or
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not when they're dating oh yeah that's pretty wild i'd say okay um tori oh she's gone okay uh
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adri that's the girl that left aliana that's me oh okay you wrote you mostly agree with the
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show host and you'd love to share a woman's pov as to why the floor is yours yeah well honestly
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closer to michael oh yeah it's okay um yeah and i mean like everything you've been saying and i'm
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not just saying it like i do agree with because like i grew up in uh in russia and my parents are
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you know quite conservative and traditional so um that's just how i was raised so just kind of
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seeing the culture that is kind of you know becoming pretty common in america is just
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mind-blowing how many um how many posts do you have on x oh a lot like tens of thousands of
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posts probably how do you have tens of thousands of and i've seen some of your ex posts how do you
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have so you were so quiet tonight i was hoping you'd come in drop some truth bombs i don't know
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you got to post a lot next you're supposed to wait in a little more tonight i mean and i of
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course i i can but i mean you were kind of making all the points um that i would be making you can
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you know you i like to let yeah okay all right um going to my favorite rock climber tori
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uh okay um we talked about the jerk shit we're not going to get back there
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there's disagreements about the show's portrayal of women but we pretty much covered that quite a
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bit um let's see perhaps one of the things one of your criticisms though is that you
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maybe feel as though the show does bring on a lot of only fans girls but i think we covered
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the stats that i said is 15 episode 301 i'm gonna have updated stats that will
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uh your phd students we talked uh influencer effect some men seem pretty shaped by what they
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see online which is also unfortunate a guy friend told you he wouldn't dare approach a woman he was
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interested in at the gym because he sees so many influencer videos calling that creepy
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i think that's unfortunate it's it i understand but i um yeah i don't think that's how the average
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woman is i mean i tend to agree with you that uh i think most women even if you're a little awkward
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or bumbling as long as you're not i mean some women might still still label it as creepy but
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i think if you're polite you know something along the lines of hey what's up just you know thought
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you're cute um are you single yeah you know talk with her a little bit uh hey can i grab your
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number maybe we could get coffee or dinner something like i think most women if it's kind
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of the essence of that i think most women are going to be polite but you know there's a lot
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of stuff online that men hear like women are saying don't approach it's annoying it's annoying
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it's annoying uh they tell stories and like even pretty harmless interactions and it's not just a
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few like the the gym videos like women will be working out in like booty shorts with the shit
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you know it's like with a camera in the middle of the room it's like
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attention they got wedgies and shit these women and and they're you know the the the stuff they're
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doing with spandex now is crazy and they got butt pads and shit they the women it's like butt pads
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now like it's not even the real ass you know they're frotting they're faking the ass but
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um so they'll be recording a video in the gym and a guy just does this
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and they'll literally like oh my god this creep looked in my direction
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it's like man that's like and then we're gonna approach you so i understand like i and with me
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too and all this stuff like look back before tiktok and social media look you awkwardly
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approach a woman she rejects you it's kind of the end of it now it's like is she gonna make a
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fucking tiktok video is she gonna put me on blast am i gonna be like it's hard enough getting
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rejected in person um look i mean on one hand it's let me reframe that i think as men you gotta
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you gotta take it on the chin you gotta take rejection on the chin but i can understand the
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apprehension because we're social creatures we don't want a reputation destroyed we don't want
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to be you know posted on something and oh that's the creepy guy who approached me or what and look
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there are creepy men like there's men who make who go about in a weird way or they're pushy or
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it's like you say you have a boyfriend and he keeps like i understand that women definitely
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deal with creepy men and that's wrong like look my philosophy is you approach the girl if she's
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not feeling it it's over like you oh okay okay have a good day nice talking to you you leave
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that's it right but i don't know i do think there are definitely men who are creepy but there's
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definitely women who blow shit way out of proportion and they publicize that on the internet
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and unfortunately there's not a bunch of videos of women just like like that doesn't get attention
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And, oh, a guy came up to me and I wasn't interested, but he was polite and that's it.
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But do you think women are shaped by what they see online?
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oh well i think one of the one of my positions is i actually think women uh women post more and
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consume more on tiktok for example and i think that there's a lot of narratives on social media
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especially on tiktok i think tiktok's the most toxic of them all where it's basically
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tolerated accepted even celebrated to have anti-male sentiment on these apps so it's like i
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that's there there's no pushback on that you can look at the comment section all the women
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are like blah blah oh my god yes men are terrible blah blah blah if you're a misogynist on tiktok
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instaban you can't you can't get on or excuse me did i say instagram you cannot get on tiktok
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and say i hate women you can't do that you can definitely women can say i hate men there's like
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maybe my algorithm's all fucked up but like the shit i see look and look there's misogynist men
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out there saying stupid shit about women and that's fucked up but there is literally an endless
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stream of anti-male sentiment and propaganda on TikTok, I believe, and they actually did
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something recently on this, I believe that there is more of an acceptance of male hatred,
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of anti-male rhetoric. I think you get canceled if you're a misogynist. I think you get canceled
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if you say, I hate women. A woman says, I hate men, doesn't fucking matter. Women don't check
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them men don't really have any anything that they can really do about it uh you know on tiktok
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certain hashtags uh i don't i don't remember the specific one but women suck as a hashtag is banned
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men suck as a hashtag totally fine and so you know there's this there's this i don't know if
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You guys saw the documentary Inside the Manosphere or whatever the fuck on Netflix?
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And there's this great moral panic about, you know, like Andrew Tate, for example, or the
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I actually believe that, and they say that young boys are being radicalized.
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There's this trope that young boys are being radicalized into misogyny.
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okay this was a hit piece on my podcast the online clip factory that's radically radicalizing teen
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boys how widely wildly popular youtube dating show blah blah mockery on women to create so
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many more incels okay so note the teen boys claim i'm gonna just go through the super quick next
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0.1 percent of my viewers are 13 to 17 i have more 65 year olds watching me
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than i do 13 to 24 year olds my biggest demographic which is over a third is 35 to 44 year olds that's
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from youtube which is my primary platform next this is i'm sorry i didn't um this is instagram
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instagram which is much skews much younger 0.5 percent 13 to 17 next
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this is spotify one percent zero to 17 biggest demographic 35 44 next but wait this is x 13 to
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17 1.5 biggest demographic 25 to 34 next this is facebook uh we're blocking it but the
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smallest uh cohort is 18 to 24 which i think is like five percent next and this is on tiktok
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right where it's the tiktok skews much younger 18 to 24 uh 25 on tiktok right but i don't think
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you can have your own account when you're under 18 in a lot of cases like can you have your own
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youtube account even so even granting that um most i would assume like most people who are
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underage or whatever are not going to be put themselves as 40 they'll probably just put
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themselves as like 18 19 20 so i have a 14 year old and his friends um have smartphones and they
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have their parents accounts on the smartphones so they're accessing it through parent accounts
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well look there's really no way to verify that but ultimately um i didn't just show you the
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analytics for one platform i showed you it across six platforms and perhaps yes like people who are
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claiming to be an older age so they can access the platform or um people using like parents
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accounts or whatever perhaps that accounts for some of it these are really robust analytics here
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That, I mean, in any case, my point is, is I actually believe they actually found that it's actually women and young girls who are more radicalized than men.
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So I think to go back to your question, I what you described sounds problematic to me as well, that it's it's not constructive to have a bunch of complaining with without like good discussion.
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So it's actually, look, I think it's women
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can you click on it to maybe make it bigger uh that's too big just go back so and there's all
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kinds of stuff like this young women have become way more liberal it's actually women have who
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have moved way more politically women are becoming way going way to the left men kind of stay the
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same like it's actually women who are becoming more radical anyways that's in response to your
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thing i think we mostly agree so great uh let's see we have christina uh let's see
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you've had men fly across states to meet after only seeing your instagram yeah okay um
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let me see uh okay i think actually we have k
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me oh you're nuts um you're not a christian right i'm not i have to consider myself like
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spiritual and stuff okay you said you're a democrat yeah you're pro-choice yes you're
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bisexual yes uh also lgbt i don't know what you mean by that lgbt is like i'm bisexuals in there
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but like um what about the tea okay should we be able to write that well you wrote lgbt so it's
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kind of i guess encompasses like are you fine with giving kids puberty blockers uh no i think
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you should all wait until you're 18 to have surgery do anything women and uh trans uh trans
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women in women's sports okay with that i think there should be some physical limits maybe physical
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test you know because just naturally men are stronger stronger bigger okay type shit so yeah
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i don't think you're like let's say like i'm not trans but let's say i was trans oh sorry you're
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not my bad no no like let's say i was trans versus like a trans man who's like six foot two yeah i
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think it's more fair if i was a trans man for me to compete in women's sports than that's six foot
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two so i think maybe just like if we added some physical limitations and stuff okay um and do you
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think trans when it comes to dating should trans people disclose yes thousand percent yeah uh let's
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see here how many black men have you had sex with i have no fucking idea i don't know that was in my
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notes i don't know why i was in my notes um okay oh you're only fans it says
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you in your description do you know what it says no bro i have i don't know you have a manager
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i know i've just had the same description up which i think i copied from another girl like
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three years ago well yeah so you in your only fans bio it reads your favorite college slut
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because i used to like my thing on only fans is i used to be like when i was in college i'm taking
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a gap right now but i like advertise because i wanted to like kind of combine my personal life
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with like that so i could make it easier so i did like a lot of like school focus content and stuff
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like I said I copied that shit from another girl
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You were like, oh my god, you're so much shorter
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because in my personal opinion out of all the men i've known in my whole entire life i could
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probably name two or three that were completely loyal in their relationships well how many have
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you been with no i'm talking about like my friends like my my brother or like just my dad
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like maybe it's just the guys you date though i don't know i'm gonna blame that on my father
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Do you like, do you like that? Do you like bad boys? Uh, no, I mean like, I think stereotypically
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black men could be considered like bad boys and shit like that, like stereotypically, but I would
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say like, I mean, not inherently. Yeah. I don't know. Like how about this though? Um, I disagree.
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I think men can definitely be loyal. I think that, uh, I don't think, but I don't think most men
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cheat i don't think that maybe hey maybe there's a high proportion right i will say this i think
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i'm going to trigger all of you cheating is let me start by saying cheating is bad cheating is
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wrong you should never cheat whether you're a man or woman when man cheats it's different
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i believe you shouldn't cheat but and i'll be quick with it okay i'll be quick with it this
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is not gonna be quick no it'll be quick so okay i think that and perhaps there's evolutionary
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psychology psychology reasons for this again cheating is wrong mention not cheat i'm not
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condoning cheating if a man cheats i believe he can still love his girl if a woman cheats
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she does not love that dude a man can cheat and still like have feeling for that like maybe
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it's just you're not gonna talk to me ever again like that's how but that's but so i understand
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you like i get it like maybe maybe sure that's totally fine you can have the standard i where
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does this come from this state well i think i think perhaps there's again um be women are more
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invested when it comes to pregnancy like if you get pregnant that's nine months we can just fuck
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women boom boom boom boom boom boom i'm not saying we should but i think that's more of an excuse of
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why men should be less promiscuous because men can impregnate so many women and a woman can only
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get pregnant once so but like that just argues that men should keep their dick in their pants
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but there is some basis for uh for like i don't know we're just trying to deposit everywhere you
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know we're trying to maybe they don't allow the deposit but but the women who do who are down you
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know but look i don't know i think a man if you ask most men you ask most men if your girl whether
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it's your wife your girlfriend whatever if she was completely okay with you sleeping with other
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women and it wouldn't cause any issues and she was like yeah go ahead and she stayed loyal to you
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not all men i think a lot of men take that deal oh okay you're fine with me being with other women
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but i stick i stick with you but you you don't cheat on me it's it wouldn't even be it wouldn't
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even be cheating at that point it'd be permission right i think a lot of men are like yeah i'm okay
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with that i don't know if i don't know if women operate that way if it was vice versa and my man
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was like you can sleep with whoever you want and i'm gonna be loyal to you well that sounds amazing
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to me like that's exactly what you're saying though right am i tripping it's no that's a
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fucking good deal right that's what i'm saying that you said the same thing yeah it's different
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because we're meant no that's i would like that's a good deal we already talked about this though
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the promiscuity thing and like the sperm and all that shit but look i don't know man i'm just saying
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look you shouldn't cheat but i think if you cheat you can still love your woman
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like that's just a that's just a sexual release but a woman who cheats on you
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she ain't really about you like that she really come from she ain't about you like that like if
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she's fucking around on you she does not love you but where do you where do you have this but a man
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can cheat like look men should not cheat but a man can cheat and still fucking love his woman
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you're speaking from experience no because i never cheat ever ah no i'm serious you're very
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engaged in this topic i know i'm just saying where does this come from it has to come from
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something personal like for us it's just it's just sex that's it but like a woman will cheat
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emotionally like i'll come like you're still my girl you're still my girl but you as a woman
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you're cheating you don't really respect that man i would say listen i'm not glad i got a high
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body count right we can all agree wait what did you say it was i got a high like between like 60
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and 80 i think i don't fucking know but i got a high body count and a lot of my friends tell me
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i fuck like a man you know like i have i treat men the same way men treat women does that make
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sense so you so if i were to cheat so if i were to cheat oh boy yeah i don't cheat i would never
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cheat sure but whatever you say whatever you say shorty don't don't blame me on that sorry i'm not
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i'm too white to say no if if i were to cheat and stuff like that yeah technically you can make the
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same excuse because all my friends i don't get like i don't know what it is like i lost my virginity
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to a friend i've never had like a super strong emotional attachment with sex like i feel yeah
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you should see a therapist i am like i feel you nathan can fix you he likes he likes near dwarf
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women nathan whoa you're basically a dwarf i bet she's four nine you know how guys are like five
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11 but they say they're six feet she's four nine but she claims four ten right okay get the
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fucking measuring tape now uh okay i think uh let's see if there's anything else um finishing
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up your notes uh not being okay ickless not being a man not stepping up to protect your woman
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when needed the sidewalk thing when men do not want to commit but want you to commit okay double
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standards sure uh okay i think uh that's it for your notes we have the rapid fire question segment
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and then we're out of here we're a wrap and i'm gonna blast through these i'm gonna blast through
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these uh t-dog tiffany can you collect the track uh maybe just dump the sticks into the cups i guess
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i guess just put it see that trash right there uh tana can you see that trash right there
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yeah just put that in there thank you very much appreciate it i should do some accents right now
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shit we got a florida girl here and she ain't even talking you know i'm not gonna lie i'm
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originally from minnesota but i think i forgot to say oh you're from minnesota minnesota don't
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you know we got some canadians wait who's the canadian uh oh and then the like the red-haired
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girl like she left and stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so like what part of you're from vancouver
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yeah from british columbia have you ever been to like tim hortons and stuff yeah of course i think
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minnesotans sometimes i don't have an accent anymore because i haven't lived there in like
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five six years but um you betcha oh yeah you betcha don't you know yeah yeah like you know
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i think sometimes like minnesotans can have a stronger accent than canadians which i've i've
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noticed like i've met a lot of canadians i feel like y'all don't have an accent i agree but the
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girl who left the first yellow dress lady was like i love your accent i was like do i have an
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accent i don't think you have an accent uh does anyone here think i'm a misogynist
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you can be ish you can have misogynistic views but i don't think you're a misogynist
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some of my views are misogynistic which ones i don't think i got time to name all of them but
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all of them there's a long list there's a long list but it's okay i don't think you're a
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misogynist i'd love that for you um let's see uh oh uh maybe perhaps this is a bit of a hot take
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uh so we do have only fans only fans only fans you do some shady shit i don't tina i'm gonna
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talk to you because i need to get i'm gonna investigate you i'm just kidding i won't do
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that but i feel like you you you do something no like i feel like you might be in that are you an
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escort tina no i'm no you asked me last time i feel like because i saw okay i saw a photo of you
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with dj sakura do you know who that is i think or unless do all not all asian people look alike
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So porn stars can be friends with regular people
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You think I'm an expert because I have big boobs and butt?
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No, I mean, even flat women can be doing shady shit.
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but and you look you got something plastic surgery going on i'm just no
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what are you up to tina are you have you ever dated a nuclear physicist
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what kind of secrets are you trying to get okay anyways
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uh wait where was i going with that rapid fire yeah yeah my bad my bad my bad sorry
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Do you want to split? Do you want to pay for it?
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Do you want me to pay for it? I don't really care
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i don't care i make a lot more money than these men anyway exactly i kind of like being a trick
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sometimes like taking care i like to pay for stuff yeah it's better for the woman to simp
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i like to truth be told the woman should simp just because you said that i will never be a
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simple you are you're a little sub aren't you no definitely not you are a little sub
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i can see it i can see it absolutely because you're so you know that's actually a thing
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he likes to be picked but he's scared to ask for it and like to be like over controlling and shit
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a lot of times they like to be in the bed it's the opposite exactly look i know what you're
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talking about where there it's like these high-powered
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everybody raise their hand if they think he's a
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no no no no that's a turn off for me if the girl's trying to dictate anything i need like
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even if well i got a joke on this you know if a girl like tells me anything she's like
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go deeper i'm like there's no more dick like that's all the dick i don't have more like i
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don't even like a girl saying deep deeper i'm like there's no more dick like stop shut up you
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know i don't say that maybe sometimes but like or it's like harder it's like shut the fuck up
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i'm i'm chill i like it a bit slower you know i like it i don't like um i don't know about you
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guys i don't like this that's what let's go slow let's like i i want to feel you okay this is this
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tmi like i need a doesn't no no no no no no get out of here with that shit it's got to be a little
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more passionate okay that was like the truth note okay i know okay no i don't know i don't like the
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the bunny rat or what's it called the jack rabbit uh that i don't like that it doesn't feel good
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anyways but sub come on bro do you do i come across as controlling yes you think that in a
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relationship i think you are controlling you think that goes away in the bedroom
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yes the fuck why is tiffany shaking her motherfucking head tiffany's back there
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shaking her head like oh yeah i bet he tiffany tiffany's my biggest op tiffany's a fucking op
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back there she's just she's just like yeah she she's got you get your mind out of the gutter
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tiffany you're thinking some crazy shit no i gotta be in control gotta be in control yeah
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something's rotten in denmark that's something is rotten in the state of denmark that's fucked
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up yo why you want a pet have you actually yes i am king shaming why only the kinks that i
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participate in are acceptable but that's where the male g-spot is standards brian double standards
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It's like, I don't want to get some man ass.
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literally some girl was like you know like apparently when i stepped away from the show
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previously some girl said i was thick last show you are thick like no but you got a bbl back there
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i got no you gotta stand up and prove it me and tina that's the same doctor
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me and tina shit he's the best surgeon in shanghai let me tell you
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There's something rotten in the state of Denmark
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bro we need to invade denmark we're taking your shit bro no but this guy this guy was a little
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bit that's your type okay all right say something funny this is actually hilarious oh my god okay
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so one of my friends stuck a wine bottle up a guy's ass i would ask for it no no i stuck a
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hairbrush up a guy's ass no this is actually a little bit gross i'm gonna tell you a hairbrush
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And I was like, yeah, but I have to put something up your ass first
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rapid fire shit right there i will never forget this all right okay let me do the rapid fire
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stop talking about your disgusting danish rottenness i know it was really gross actually
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yikes yeah no i regret that yikes i just need to breathe for a moment after that that was intense
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that was yeah i was there so it was worse who i feel like women are kind of freaker
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a little bit i don't know y'all are into some crazy like you know this quiet girl right here
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she's into some crazy shit you know i'm you know i haven't been quiet at all a little quiet
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like i bet you want to fuck on a rock no no she's the kind of people you meet in like
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a kingy sex club at night that's like secretly has a corporate job and kids during the daytime
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but then she goes with like a mask and her husband on like a leash walking through like
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a kingy club true so true yeah yeah you're right she's she's the kind i feel like she you have you
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done half dome or wait what's it called what is that do you know i'm talking about i i have not
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you've never done half dome what are some like famous rock climbing things
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in yosemite or yeah yosemite have you done what i mostly go to bishop which is a different area
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of course totally know what you're talking about have you ever fucked at the top you know what i
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mean people commonly do it i fucked in yosemite a few days ago oh panorama trail who who did you
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fuck i was with a friend panorama trail is very nice we need to fucking conquer denmark this is
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crazy bro is that because you have like the waterfalls and the forest and you can like go
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a little bit away who has greenland who's that is that denmark yes we're fucking taking that
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shit bro i'm taking listen listen you guys can take it because it's like a bunch of alcoholics
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and they're all, like, cousins, and they're all having kids with each other.
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I feel like you're into some, like, hardcore shit, you know?
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like because i feel like she's got that remember with the the life jacket and she's like i just
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want them both to die yeah i feel like tina whips dudes like a whip like hold on wait let me see do
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i have that still do i even have the whip sound effect can we go to the next question okay good
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talk tina good talk tina whipped you like to whip yeah man okay all right let me get to the
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questions what the fuck i like to whip man's dick
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you've done that shit into the mic scoot in scoot in dear yes with my ex-boyfriend
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holy fuck and also whip on his face like set face she wanted to cut off her husband's
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vagina god what the fuck so i feel like she has a samurai sword and just like wait that's racist
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bro that's racist she's chinese oh whatever that's japan that's japan sorry it's okay i
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forgive you okay let me blast through this guys let me blast through a super fast uh easy questions
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name three countries besides the usa and try to be quick with your answers
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um russia iran japan canada mexico brazil um italy um spain and uh norway
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germany austria france romania bulgaria serbia ukraine um china
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um yeah yeah korea india okay wait i'm gonna skip to you uh seychelles uh carry body
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ecuador oh fancy over here okay uh how many continents are there
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um three i don't know sorry what i don't know okay seven who said three
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but outside of america they say six right they say five six five six because they consider all
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america's one continent yes um six seven seven five seven mics mics mics seven uh wait south
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america north america yeah how many continents are there five or six uh for you what two countries
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okay uh two countries in europe turkey spain france italy uh germany austria finland sweden
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whose chair is squeaking is it yours yeah can we it's because how tall you are
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Can you take that, like just have you swap?
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So take that chair and maybe Tiffany, can you just grab that chair and take it away?
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earth oh okay did everyone agree all right well done the government building the pentagon is what
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shape pentagon the the pentagon what shape is it a pentagon final answer yeah i'm pentagon
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you are correct what river runs through egypt uh the uh nile
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uh if you can try to uh have your chair like in so uh okay
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what country is uh what hold on we maybe uh if you can scoot back that way no uh no no you
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You scoot that way. You scoot that way. Tiffany, go back, back, back. All right. Okay. That's good.
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Move your mic so it's like more aligned with you. Okay. What country is directly north of Mexico?
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America. United States of America. Okay. We'll accept that.
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I'm going to skip some of these. How many hours are in a day?
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36 how many sides again for you how many sides does a triangle have
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are you are you drawing it on your hand yeah how many one
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so a line a triangle is a line um how many sides does a triangle have three you sure
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What country gifted the Statue of Liberty to the United States?
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i don't know throw out throw one out i don't know europe
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i was thinking europe thinking europe what do you think it's africa what continent is japan in
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japan is in asia oh it might she's wrong about everything
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um it's asia okay uh what is the capital of france paris was the capital of japan
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what country is immediately south of the united states i feel like it's unfair to ask the foreigners
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um mexico congratulations you got it right if today is monday what day is it in three days
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That's what I thought, but then I was thinking about
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you got this i'm sorry i don't know okay how about this how about this what what was the
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question 100 divide by four how many quarters go if you have anal sex a hundred times
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but but it was only a i don't know where i'm going with that um okay 15 plus 35 15 plus 30
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uh 40 yeah yeah yeah 90 minus 45 90 minus yeah
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wait here do it on i can't i have to calculate oh shit poor girl okay 90 minus 45
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quick um i have to do that in my head you got this i believe in you just say 3 2 1 okay wait
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wait how about this an only fan simp sends you 90 dollars but then he wants 45 back wait that's
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you got this girl 45 35 35 45 i think it's 35 on it tina
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45 45 yeah uh how many branches of u.s government are there oh wait we already did this okay skip
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oh my gosh it's very late the declaration of independent no who knows harry potter okay
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the people of the united states in order to form it it's how many stars are on the u.s flag
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50 what century are we in 24th 24th first that was like a combo okay tina what century are we in
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20 200 wait can you like scoot into the table a little bit scoot into the table there you go
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scoot in scoot in good good good all right um what galaxy do we live in
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to you next to me what galaxy do we what galaxy do we live in okay how many in one dozen
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12 how many months in a decade in a decade uh in a decade last time you're so 120
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all right yeah she's smart she's short but she's smart i did have a 4.2 when i graduated college
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so we could you could have been an engineer or something i know that's what my sister and my
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family tells me they're like bitch you could have been a doctor you could have been that and i just
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popped my pussy online like it's like oh shit pussy popping online okay uh what year was the
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US founded? 1776. You are correct. What country did the United States gain its independence from?
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No. Guess. Here, I'll give you a hint. It's in Europe. Guess. Germany? You are correct.
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tina england what do you think yeah great britain yeah uh who was the first president of the usa
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you got this abraham lincoln i don't know abraham lincoln try again try again
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um george washington she's fine yeah that's not fair i guess
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okay what country what country is the great wall of china in
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nobody help nobody help nobody help here go ahead care about history well you know it's
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Bro, you got a lot of help from the girls here.
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I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you.
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You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations
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I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker.
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yeah you guys use centimeters or metric system whatever um let's see how many letters in the
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alphabet no no girl we gotta send you we're gonna get you a tutor girl the whatever pocket
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here wait hold on wait a hundred letters in the alphabet wait wait before anybody
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can you just tell us the alphabet yes go ahead a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t
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You didn't say that with a lot of confidence, but you are correct.
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But how many days of the week end with the letter Y?
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Okay, we got to give our girl some W's here.
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i know it's 200 something 200 something i don't know exactly i mean what about the chinese how
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much isn't it different don't they have a different calendar or some shit i don't know
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motherfucker you chinese and you don't know about the chinese calendar and shit dog i don't know
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there's like shit man how these girls gonna not know about shit okay sorry i'm being so cringe
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that's funny okay uh if a dozen eggs cost three dollars how much is each egg
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what did you say a dozen a dozen eggs 12 eggs cost three dollars total
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so how much is four huh a dozen sorry i got fucking confused by this measurement 12
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okay what three dollars in total they're three dollars how much is one how much is each egg
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0.4 dollars no okay each strap on each a dozen strap-on dildos
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a dozen strap-on dildos costs three dollars how much is each dildo
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I'm so scared about being able to get into my shit.
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By watching them struggle with 5th grade questions
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um what is the okay what is the closest star to earth fun there we gotta give her some w's tina
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do you disagree what is the closest star to earth one tina what is you doing what is you doing my
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okay let's see here what what country is the Panama Canal in I'm gonna skip a
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bunch what language do people speak in Mexico this would have been perfect
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Okay, if you pass the person in second place, what place are you in?
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the fuck tiffany stop looking at me like that motherfucker didn't fucking stink on me uh you
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passed the person in second place what place are you in first okay second second oh second
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second second place wait you pass the person in what second place what place are you in first
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place no second where where did the you're in third place you pass the person in second okay
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Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
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seven correct what country is the eiffel tower in paris
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can you repeat the question what currency is used in japan actually fuck that one uh
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what country did the vietnam war happen in i don't know that guess a country like you know
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japan was it japan maybe like asia somewhere somewhere in asia maybe it was africa maybe it
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10 you were born 10 years ago yeah you'll be 10 years old do you need a little hit you need a
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little bump bro you okay i don't do that i don't do that shit either i don't even have that shit
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you need bro i need a blunt she needs a blunt i got a blunt for you girl i got a blunt for you
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girl i need to get back to la so i don't get kicked out 60 uh what is 66 plus 44
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Okay, I think we're, okay, we're almost done with those.
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What I'm looking for here is the 1820s, the 1950s, the 1770s.
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tail end here? I think we've got a few more.
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What percentage of men do you think are over 6 feet?
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What percentage of men make at least $1 million a year that you think?
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10 percent 10 percent 0.5 percent 2 percent 30 30 percent what the fuck we're talking
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american dollars not chinese won or whatever huh one percent oh can you sing an axe can you
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sing a gnr song for us really quick no can you just sweet child of mine welcome to the jungle
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okay what percent of men have yachts one percent like 0.5 i don't know about 10 percent 10 percent
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0.01 0.2 25 percent can we get the answers to these 25 percent all right next 0.5 axel rose
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Oh, you have a list of all the men you've smashed?
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Who here keeps a list on their phone of all the men you've had sex with?
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You need to give value into each individual person.
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uh who has a roster or has ever had a roster i've had a roster what was the biggest it's ever been
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it's just like people in my snapchat that i like snap uh like guys are kind of more dating though
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like you're actually meeting up with them like a couple like three i'd love that for you okay
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I miss California, hoping to be back by the end of this year.
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Appreciate the chat here at the end of the show.
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Have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them?
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I'm sending you boarding school in fucking China.
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fucking had barfins just as long as I've been single
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one okay uh who's gone on two dates in one night dates not saying you slept with the guy
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two dates three three dates in the night four dates in the night i think three maybe yikes
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no no i didn't do anything with no i know but still yikes mention not pay for dates
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anyways no no it was not we split uh has anybody here hooked up with and i guess not counting
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threesomes like i'm talking uh individually has anyone here hooked up with two men in a 24-hour
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period okay uh three guys 24-hour period tina be proud be proud tina okay good talk um show of
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hands would anyone prefer to live in a world without men anybody anybody oh my god say it
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say it tina what would you prefer to live in the world without men yes or no yes are men the
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problem i told you last time but i need dick i hate men but i need dick you hate men oh boy tina
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if you could snap your finger and all men disappeared and women could just reproduce
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without men would you do it uh is it gay for a man to date a trans woman i think it's gay
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anyone disagree not if he still has a day then yes even with the if they do the surgery still
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gay that's just still gay still gay not even blair wyatt gay what's wrong with being gay
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I didn't say there's anything wrong with being gay
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I didn't say there's anything wrong with being gay
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I didn't make the claim that there's anything wrong with being gay
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Well, because I think trans people have a duty to disclose.
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But if we start pretending like trans women are women and that there's no difference between trans women and actual women, then we get into a territory of, well, one, there's less of a duty to disclose.
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And then also, I'm a bad person if I don't want to sleep with a trans person.
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All right, well, talk to your therapist about that.
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I personally wouldn't, but I don't knock on people who do.
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That's just not my personal sexual question.
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If I'm bisexual, what's wrong with sleeping with a trans person?
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If you want to fuck trans people, be my guest.
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let me just check if we have any chats here
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I just want to say thank you so much for having us on here
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it was fun aside from yeah that was crazy i think we're all trauma bonded aside from a couple
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hiccups there i think overall the show was fun it was good uh you guys hours almost 10 you guys
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were you guys were fun i appreciate you guys uh let's let me see if i have any uh outro i need
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to go over um just remember big labia matter blm hashtag blm um i will say that on the looks
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rating thing just as a final thing here um you know some of you you know i gave the looks ratings
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or whatever i have a bolster system where so if a woman's like a four but she's got like a big
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outie that's like plus three so it breaks that really quick i'll break it down if she has like
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a slight outie plus one medium outie plus two large outie plus three excel jumbo you know
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hold up hold on four and if it's the world record labia she's got the biggest labia
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she's got the biggest labia that that's ever been seen or it's like you know at least the
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world record five plus five so she's a four she's a nine now can you not find the clit or something
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since you like really i'll teach you i'll teach you wide open top can you not find it i'll teach
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all your viewers actually i can help you find it imagine these are the the top of the lips
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literally just go down until you feel a bean you'd be a nine she's got world record lady
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you know what she it's a medium it's she's got a medium shit i'm seeing labia fishing girls claim
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it's like guys who say they got big dick but they don't these women i'm like eight nine i guess so
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i guess that i guess so um you get see i got a similar system but if their dick is underneath
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five inches it starts subtracting points yeah all right well yeah it's tough out here
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it's tough out here for some of us you know what i mean all right all right guys like the video if
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you enjoyed the stream uh i maybe like final thing pull up twitch really quick guys drop us a
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a prime sub available with 1500 people watching at fucking 3 a.m in the morning damn 6 a.m on the
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east coast that's what's up uh guys just check if you have a follow available check if you have a
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prime available just show some love here guys i look i love twitch but i you know a lot of live
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streamers twitch streamers they're just sitting in a bedroom playing video games it costs these
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people who are like playing fortnight no offense to them uh you know it costs them nothing to stream
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video games basically they got the computer they got the setup that's it this is a very involved
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production we only do it once a week i'm not just hopping up on fortnight or world of warcraft or
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something so we we do have overhead you know we got expenses every single month the studio is
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expensive we're in santa barbara i don't know if it's the new york times santa barbara was rated
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the most unaffordable excuse me santa barbara was rated the most unaffordable city in the entire
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united states so it's a it's a little easy way to show show some support if you can drop a prime
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sub or check if you have a prime sub okay uh i believe that is it any final thoughts from anybody
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else or final speak now forever hold your peace you know no thank you for having me axel rose
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you ready to sing oh no boyfriend please pick me up i don't have cellular i'm sorry i can't oh
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shit okay but hey lay off the anal sex okay anyways um back to this all right guys uh gg
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i want to say gg well played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out
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please leave a nice comment once the live ends i read them helps the algo thank you for tuning
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in tonight thank you to the wonderful panel who made it to the very end appreciate you guys it
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was fun you guys were very fun aside from ginger canadian ginger demon and whatever the fuck that
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karen was holy shit i'm gonna have to debrief that shit at some other time that was that was
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insane that was like watching mental illness in the flesh like i was like whoa i i've i'm not
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exaggerating we've had something like 2 000 women on the show we've had some pretty wild people on
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the show that was i want to say that's the worst guest ever are you for real i think it's the worst
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guest ever like zero exaggeration truthfully it was pretty bad it was pretty bad um for sure top
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three top five but anyways you guys were dope i know the show went long i appreciate you guys
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making it to the end thank you thank you uh you guys were awesome it was a fun convo uh to the
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viewers you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you
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to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show we're going to be live again sunday at
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