00:00:13.480When I was discussing with labeling, I'll give you a prime example to prove my point.
00:00:19.700When you had books wrote, and you had different articles wrote about how TCM, for an example, was a small offshoot.
00:00:27.980And, you know, the WCOTC, you notice how they always undermined what we were, what we were organizing, and would always bring up splinter groups and fractalizations.
00:00:39.260Yet, I'd have a meet and greet, you know, a monthly meet and greet here at my house, and I'd have more people than most, you know, here, than most organizations would have for their annual gathering nationwide.
00:00:49.440You know, so there was nothing small about what we were doing, but yet they intentionally undermined us by using propaganda, by downplaying what we were trying to accomplish.
00:00:59.800And that right there, in its nutshell, should prove the point of what I'm saying.
00:01:04.820These Jews are only going to put out information that they want you to know.
00:01:09.260And, you know, sometimes that's counter.
00:01:11.520And I've seen it firsthand, and with that point, you look it up yourself, Ryan, you've probably seen many of these articles and read many of them on how they intentionally downplayed what we were doing.
00:01:23.240If they could truly consider you a threat, they're not going to promote you.
00:01:28.100They're not going to say, oh, yeah, biggest threat in America, you know, America right now, blah, blah.
00:01:32.780If they're doing that, eh, you know, the Jews don't promote unless they have a purpose.
00:01:37.200So I just wanted to add that, and then you go ahead to the hands.
00:01:40.300Oh, well, and I can understand that completely, brother.
00:01:43.480For the longest time, I was a little butthurt by the ADL.
00:01:49.500Of course, yes, I am listed on the ADL's site, just like a lot of other people are.
00:01:54.660And yet, everybody else has a fucking photo but me.
00:01:58.540I'm such a handsome, good-looking, fucking charismatic man, and yet these motherfuckers don't want to show my face.
00:02:05.300That kind of pissed me off a little bit.
00:02:07.200They could have fit your ears in the picture.
00:02:11.920I knew you were going to say something like that, you little shithead.
00:02:15.700But I'm just, you know, and of course, you know, the little article that they put, it's like a paragraph and a half.
00:02:20.960It's just enough to let the public be, you know, they did that just out of a semblance of transparency, so to speak.
00:02:30.700They know that, obviously, because of my political activities, the average individual, especially here in the state of Texas, has come into contact with me or through my work, through the news media, through newspapers, etc.
00:02:45.200And so at that point, they couldn't discount or just ignore the fact that I existed.
00:02:51.780But they went out of their way to try to shun me and blackball me as much as possible to not give me any type of publicity and or acknowledgement, which would then obviously cause people to try to seek out and, you know, make contact.
00:04:08.540My son's not always going to be there to help mom and his little sister out.
00:04:13.600So I need them to be able to protect themselves or at least know how to get out of situations and get to a safe place to where they can, you know, call for help or something.
00:04:22.340So, yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with that.
00:04:24.160Another thing I was going to talk about is the impact of the, how did you put it?
00:04:34.100Two sides of who you are, you know, you know, you have your nationalist side and maybe you have your side at work because you want to keep your job or maybe you're a churchgoer and you have your church side that people know, you know.
00:04:53.460And it's a very fine line to walk and I've struggled with that in the past because my family knows my intentions.
00:05:03.220My family knows that I'm race first, but there are certain people within my groups or people that I have talked to that.
00:05:11.180And I don't, I don't, I don't think that they would be able to take it with the mentality that they're, you know, they have currently.
00:05:19.340And it's like, I want it, I want to say something, but I don't want to ruin a friendship over it.
00:05:29.000Or I don't want to alienate certain people because of what they bring, you know, to the table.
00:05:36.700So, while I understand it and I'm definitely working on it, I'm, as I'm getting older, I'm leaning more towards just letting everybody know what my views are.
00:05:47.120And, you know, if you don't agree with it, then you can fuck off.
00:05:50.120So, I'm not, I'm not all the way there yet.
00:05:53.840There's a, there's a few people I'm still working on, but I would definitely agree that it, it definitely, it does tear at you because there's a conflict.
00:06:04.020And that conflict, you know, it's internal and it's something that you have to struggle with on your own.
00:06:08.300And, and that's why I seek, you know, help from other nationalists and other, you know, white power brothers, because I need people to, to boost my morale, so to speak.
00:06:20.300And, you know, get me to that last 10% so that I can just tell everybody, if you don't like who I am and you don't want to be, you know, race first with me, then you can just go fuck off with your, your nigger girlfriend or whatever you want to do.
00:06:44.840Yeah, about on the whole, uh, topic of, uh, being classified as, like, uh, domestic terrorist.
00:06:50.980Uh, I just would like to say to, you know, newer people in the movement, you know, or listening in, uh, I wouldn't be discouraged by any of it because it's nothing new.
00:07:02.060Uh, we've been classified as domestic terrorist since, like, uh, what, Oklahoma.
00:07:08.120You know, city bombing, you know, um, it, it's just the government, you know, sits there and they rebuke the saying over and over, you know, white supremacy is the greatest threat to American democracy or, or, uh, they're, they're classified as domestic terrorist.
00:07:24.800And, you know, white supremacy is, will be stopped.
00:07:27.480You know, it's, uh, they're just repeating themselves like they always has.
00:07:32.040Nothing's been written in law, new, or anything.
00:07:34.720It's just something they reiterate, uh, over and over to discourage people from these type of movements or to keep the boogeyman image up that they created about us.
00:07:46.480Uh, I would just, you know, it really rampant up people's, uh, spirits.
00:07:51.560I would say after what Charlottesville, you know, because of that whole debacle, uh, it was probably around that time.
00:07:58.980A lot of people started not going in the IRL events around that time.
00:08:03.580It really started to drastically fall apart when people would start meeting in public because of that.
00:08:10.000And everybody flipped out about, you know, Biden or whoever got on TV and classified us as all as a domestic terrorist live on TV again.
00:08:39.600I was going to say, it's just like when Trump, uh, send those red flag gun laws into effect in Virginia, claiming that white nationalists were quote, a threat to public safety.
00:08:47.520And they shouldn't be able to own firearms.
00:08:50.040And they've been telling us this for years.
00:08:56.340Trump is, uh, Trump's definitely played his part in, uh, his propaganda, uh, faces against like, uh, American, uh, uh, well, one of rights that they, they supposedly say we have in this country.
00:09:09.680Uh, he's gone more further on gun control than anybody I've known, you know, so with red, red flag gun laws, like you're saying.
00:09:17.700And, uh, uh, uh, what was he, uh, he was also quoted saying he would like to, uh, something in the law about, you know, due process being to take away from people involved with those, uh, red, red flag gun laws.
00:09:29.040So, uh, I, I've never heard that out of Democrats mouths, but then again, you know, there is no two party system.
00:09:39.020The, the direct quote is ask questions first, take our, ask question, take the guns first, ask questions later.
00:09:46.240That was what he had said when a lot of conservatives pushed back on him for signing the red flag gun laws and confiscating firearms from white nationalists.
00:09:54.560He said, take the guns first, ask questions later, the due process takes too long.
00:09:59.560And when he said that, and just to look up Trump on red flag gun laws and you'll find this statement and Pence just kind of put his face in his hands because he knew that the, that the mask was slipping and that Trump was exposing himself quite abruptly.
00:39:56.340Um, they have this innate desire to be the priority in your life.
00:40:00.720And this is something that even if they're a nationalist, they can't get around.
00:40:04.880Uh, and so, yeah, there are times, even in my relationship, I'm sure James and Ron can attest to this in which they don't disapprove of the involvement, but there's always, these women have their, their concerns.
00:40:18.140And they still have these hangups and things that they try to, whether it's intentional or not, try to, uh, dissuade you from doing what you need to do from, uh, pursuing certain projects.
00:40:31.080And that may be because they're afraid of the risk or because, uh, they're feel that it's taking away from the relationship and all these things.
00:40:37.860But there's no real way around this concept of having to have good communication and clear boundaries, even though that situation may be easier if you're with an NS girl.
00:43:41.440And we don't have that problem, because we have the same belief, and our morals are pro-white, pro-ambient, and that's how we look at it in our family.
00:43:55.080So if you're having division in your family, especially when you're trying to be pro-white, it's the worldview that is stumbling people from being pro-white.
00:45:01.780But, yeah, there comes a lot of sacrifice with, you know, protecting the white race and sacrificing a lot for the white race.
00:45:09.500And there's a lot of people that say that it's racist for us to want a colony with a bunch of whites.
00:45:19.540But when blacks want to have their own communities, that's not considered racist.
00:45:24.280And I think that's complete bullshit in my personal opinion because, like, racism is just a side-up word.
00:45:31.960It's just, it's a made-up word to attack us.
00:45:36.320And nobody realizes it's just a word, you know, like, it's not racist at all to live with other whites.
00:45:46.140And race mixing does make the IQ a lot, lot lower.
00:45:52.800And that's why you see a lot of, you know, black fathers leaving their children because, you know, like, all they want is they just want a one-night stand.
00:46:04.120And if the mother is pregnant, then the father leaves.
00:46:07.400It's just a, it's just statistical, you know.
00:47:29.180I'm going to go ahead and start my sign off since I have to go to make a call real fast.
00:47:34.340Thank you, everyone, for coming and participating in White Power Lunch Hour's open discussion day.
00:47:39.100We have these open days where it's kind of a casual discussion about a variety of topics, anything you guys want to bring up every Wednesday.
00:47:45.880And it's always a fun time and a break from the more lecture-oriented stuff that we do on White Power Lunch Hour.
00:47:52.760Remember, Fridays are now White Power Lunch Hour's a space to talk about creativity.
00:47:58.080So stay tuned and tune in then to hear about the doctrine and hear about James, Reverend Logsdon, Reverend Murray, and myself, John Gahagan, discussing those topics.
00:48:46.880Remember, to all of our listeners and our speakers, that if there's anyone that you heard today speaking that you find yourselves aligned with, make sure you give them a follow.
00:48:56.940Build that community that we are all striving for.
00:48:59.440As he said, we've got 1488 Radio coming up at the top of the hour, hosted by Mythos, Steve Hansen, Zeus the Noose, Radio Race War, and White Wright.
00:50:03.900Suck dick and die, you fucking nigger-loving faggots.
00:50:07.440For the rest of you, I hope you have a great White Wednesday.
00:50:10.420And I will finish off with the Golden Rule of Creativity.
00:50:14.420What is good for the white race is of the highest virtue.
00:50:16.960What is bad for the white race is the ultimate sin.
00:50:19.740If we apply this Golden Rule to our life and actions, we will guarantee the survival, advancement, and expansion of the beautiful and glorious white race.
00:50:28.680And through this Golden Rule, may we together win this racial holy war.
00:50:49.200Those who are on stage right now, we can continue kind of letting that breathe a little bit if we choose to, if you want to stick around and continue to add to that.
00:51:01.140I think relationships and the, we can call it the WQ.
00:51:09.960The women will probably call it the MQ.
00:51:12.720This is the relationship of all time, right?
00:51:20.240It comes from our ability to work together across genders, across the masculine and feminine spectrum to create what we are here to defend and to secure, which is the existence of our people and a future for white children.
00:51:42.380Without the each of us, we have nothing to live for.
00:51:52.680I will just add my part to kind of what H.T. was bringing up in some sense.
00:52:00.700And James is, you know, my wife has the ability to listen to me and let me know where I contradict myself.
00:52:11.300She lets me know this often, and that is a part of that.
00:52:16.560It fits that I actually brought up, too, the ethical calculations.
00:52:21.300She's able to make these ethical calculations in real time based on a history of my words and my actions and let me know whether or not I'm the man that I am saying that I am.
00:52:38.120She is absolutely an essential part of my character at this point after over a decade of marriage.
00:52:52.000Now, that, too, I'll just add, this also brings up the, was it Carl Jung, the anima and the animus, which is the part of us men that has some relationship with our ideal woman.
00:53:16.200And the woman having the relationship with the ideal man, and that goes into it, right?
00:53:24.940She knows what an ideal man looks like, and that's a part of her being able to correct me on my path and me likewise.
00:59:46.360And, yeah, I just want to, you know, do a little tap on one of our listeners down there who hosts, hostly, a book club that, you know, if you want to kind of ponder the message I gave you there and get back to us, see if we can talk about things.
01:00:35.060Yeah, I got a topic that is some hot fire on the timeline, and I'm kind of chomping at the bit to talk about it.
01:00:46.600I'm sure everybody will have an opinion on this, even if it's just a small one.
01:00:51.600So, CPAC is the Republican convention of sorts, and I guess they were doing something in Poland yesterday or sometime this week, and Rabbi Shmuley was there on stage.
01:01:07.760So, it is now safe to say that Republicans are represented by a Jewish dildo salesman, and they have no shame about making sure he takes main stage at their events.
01:01:24.760So, the Republicans, you know, they're so based, right?
01:01:28.380Those MAGA Republicans, they're so based that they want to put a dildo salesman on the world stage as a representative of what their leadership looks like, and I think it's fucking hilarious.
01:01:43.960You know, these jokes continue to write themselves, and we, on this space, all the hosts, including our VIP members,
01:01:54.220we continue to be vindicated on why the Republican Party is this trash, all-encompassing uniparty that will never win anything, especially if they think their values are centered around a Jewish dildo salesman.
01:02:13.840So, for some reason, this dildo salesman gets in the ear of many world leaders.
01:02:19.680I don't know why, outside of him being a Jew, that he is able to maintain a position of credibility, let alone tolerance, amongst conservative platforms, because he is a very, very vile person.
01:02:38.080And I think what his claim to fame was writing about his relationship with Michael Jackson after he passed away.
01:02:51.620It's not super-duper hot take, but it's definitely, hey, look at this, Republicans are parading around a Jewish dildo salesman, a kosher Jewish dildo salesman.
01:03:03.420And, you know, so, got to make sure you have the seal of approval by the rabbi if you want those dildos.
01:03:10.600I mean, Smuley is a fucking, he's a horrible, horrible man.
01:05:27.380It only took $400,000, not even half a million dollars for AIPAC to buy him wholesale and have him be the Shabbos Goy that they want in the state of Florida.
01:05:40.820Randy Fine is the reason to blame for Ronald Murray having the legal troubles that he's having,
01:05:47.740because he was a big hand in the creation of HB 269.
01:05:54.320So all the guys that were doing activism in Florida, they got legal troubles one way or another for their activism.
01:06:03.100You can thank Randy Fine, and you can thank AIPAC.
01:07:21.840It was that retarded phrase that was floating around where all of these liberals decided to jump ship, and some political – some duly elected political candidates – not candidates, officials, they decided to leave the liberal platform, the Democratic platform, and switch to Republicans.
01:08:10.780And I think it's fair to say that if we were to start engaging things from a political perspective using a political platform, now would kind of be the perfect time to start doing that and start forming a legitimate opposition party against them because we do stand for something.
01:08:32.240And it's really simple what we stand for, right?
01:08:35.880It's the title of this space for the most part, the title of this show.
01:09:06.760What does the 14 words say about economics?
01:09:09.140Well, the 14 words says we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
01:09:13.900So, yeah, that means axing predatory capitalism, you know?
01:09:18.360So when it comes to our political views, it's really simple.
01:09:23.460These 14 words can be used as a platform for gaining power within the United States, right?
01:09:33.180And any time a question is imposed about our political beliefs, we can just address the 14 words and say, well, does that secure the future or does it unsecure the future?
01:09:44.840Well, if it secures the future, then, yes, we're pro that stance.
01:09:49.120If it doesn't secure our future, well, then, no, we're anti that stance.
01:09:54.400And the Republicans, they don't have that.
01:09:57.980They go through these weird mental gymnastics on every single topic in order to kick the can down the road, lie to their base, and garner as much votes as possible.
01:10:11.380Because let's face it, everyone who voted for Donald Trump wanted mass illegal immigration to be solved.
01:10:21.160We're getting these viral videos of five or six browns getting picked up off of the streets, and then we're being told to settle for, let's be honest, probably 150,000 so far when it needs to be on the scale of millions within these next four years for it to be of anything of substance and value.
01:10:44.020So, yeah, man, 14 words is the way to go.
01:10:47.480I can come back to that chat we had earlier on for the week, right, where we talked about having no statement anymore.
01:10:55.380The calibre of competition we've got now is just so fucking low, it's comical.
01:11:00.540They will jump shit to any side that they find advantageous to their self at any given moment.
01:11:06.200No, it's just, yeah, we've not got a calibre.
01:18:49.600But his primary function has always been an agent or a lobbyist in a great degree.
01:19:04.220So this, I mean, it tracks that this is what, you know, the Republicans are willing to do in order.
01:19:15.200It's not about this, the voters, right, the Jewish voters.
01:19:22.280It's about the Jewish influence and what he represents in terms of the Jewish influence.
01:19:30.260And that's where, you know, the big gripe, I think, comes from, is that this is not an America first position to have this guy involved in your politics.
01:19:45.860But if anybody has that information, I couldn't find it again.
01:19:51.660I read it several months ago about what he was managing in terms of a really large equity fund that was, I think, a, it was bequeathed.
01:20:06.000I think it was a, I think it was a dead, a dead person who left a lot of money to a foundation.
01:20:15.380So if anybody has that, if they can kick it to me so I can look into that again, I think it'll be revealing to his, his position.
01:20:25.640You know, it's less cultural and it's more, you know, the same old thing, right?
01:20:31.240Bribery, coercion, blackmail, and, and so forth that, that this operates on.
01:20:38.620And it doesn't speak well to where the Republican Party is right now.
01:20:43.580But, you know, a lot of us already knew that.
01:20:45.900And even to the gentleman who just spoke, a lot of us, even if we were hopeful in certain aspects,
01:20:52.700we're very concerned and cautious about throwing any support behind or, or being optimistic about the outcomes here.
01:21:02.860So, again, you know, it's going to be up to us where we go and, and what we do with the information we have and how we can get people to wake up to what's going on,
01:21:18.980especially those America first people who are still under the assumption that Israel is our ally.
01:21:25.520There's, there's a lot of information that can be, um, can be delivered to, uh, get them to shift at least off of that default position into a more skeptical position.
01:21:39.200You know, I did not know about the Michael Jackson thing, my sauce.
01:21:43.420No, the only thing I know about, uh, Shmuley is he's an agitator.
01:21:47.600Then whenever he's confronted, he loves to pull that victim card.
01:21:50.180You know, it's like, poor me, I'm a Jew, this, blah, blah, blah, but no, he loves to agitate it.
01:21:55.940And that's what I find a speckle about the man.
01:21:59.120Well, he's the embodiment of, of, uh, they cry out as they strike you.
01:22:04.520I mean, he, he is the, uh, and, and to Fitz, uh, point, he's the gremlin leprechaun embodiment of, of the, everything, uh, critic, uh, worthy of criticism about being Jewish or, uh, you know, surrounding that it's, it's, uh, he is the concentrated form of Jewish influence.
01:22:56.580Um, well, it's the foreign, it's the foreign agent registration act and it is a, it is a law.
01:23:00.880I don't know when it's ever enforced because this country is a joke.
01:23:04.340Um, but he would be, you know, he's the perfect example where he exclusively represents the interest of American Jewry and by proxy Israel.
01:23:12.400So when you're looking at these people, you have to, in no uncertain terms, they represent the interest of a foreign country and a foreign people.
01:23:18.580And I think everyone's been sort of, um, lulled into complacency with that.
01:23:22.660And they just sort of accept that as normal.
01:23:25.440It's so abnormal that you have to keep reminding yourself that you're, you're listening to someone who's a foreign agent.
01:23:34.120And, and he does, you know, similar to what a lot of these media figures and influencers and authors, there are all kinds of things, but they, they do almost statecraft.
01:24:03.520A lot of people just can't kind of put all these pieces together and they're sort of reductionist about it.
01:24:07.840The, the, the subversion ecosystem in the United States is, is so multifaceted and multilayered.
01:24:13.820And so many people are playing on different people's teams for different interests than them.
01:24:17.720Then they, they do different, completely different things publicly versus privately.
01:24:21.460They're being paid by all these subversive elements that is completely unknown to the outside consumer of their content.
01:24:29.840So your average midwit conservative has no idea what they're even consuming in terms of their general information diet, their general, their general news diet.
01:38:11.620And I guess I was trying to zoom out to a more macro point of, you know, again, he's obviously an infiltrator, you know, subversive who blackmails people.
01:39:17.120If I cut in or you can't hear me, it's because I'm driving.
01:39:20.080So I'm going to go back to what Steve was talking about a little bit earlier about how the right is now the left.
01:39:25.840And, you know, we talk about the Overton window and, you know, lots of different things on here.
01:39:29.660But I kind of agree that the right is now the left because I know after Trump lost that last election,
01:39:37.460in different chat rooms and on X and Reddit and all these different places, there were a lot of what I felt were instigators, you know, leftists and Jews coming into right-wing sites.
01:39:50.380And their talking point was, well, the left can do it so we can do it.
01:39:55.900And, oh, now the left's crying because we're doing it, blah, blah, blah, all this fucking horse shit.
01:40:01.660I think those people were infiltrators.
01:40:03.500I think they went into those places and they used the exact same tactics that the left uses, but they were posing as mag-atars or right-wing fucking, you know, political people.
01:40:18.100And all they were doing was the exact same stuff that the left does and they just – all these new, you know, right-wing wannabes and, you know, people like that, they just – they fell for it.
01:40:32.960They went right into it and they, you know, bought it hook, line, and seeker.
01:40:36.000So the right basically is the left now with, you know, when you think about it.
01:40:41.020And it's pretty sad because there's a lot of people out there that, you know, if they had the right type of propaganda – but then again, I look and I'm like, if they were stupid enough to fall for shit like that, I'm not sure I want them on my team anyway.
01:40:55.880Because if you're dumb enough to fall for blatant fucking lies, you know, do I really want you holding a rifle next to me when the time comes?
01:42:27.260And they're controlling information to let people know that fucking – or they're trying to close it off to let people know that Epstein is a fucking Zionist beside agent using blackmail against our politicians.
01:43:29.980And I'm not sure why I don't get your requests, like, popping up.
01:43:33.880Yeah, I want to invite Frank to stay on the panel for that reason.
01:43:38.260And, yeah, Frank, just stay up here so we don't have to mess with that in the near future.
01:43:46.140If I could – so I didn't do that to dunk on Dan or shit on his point or anything.
01:43:52.600It was really to just do a quick – I didn't really even have that queued up.
01:43:57.700That was just a simple objective analysis of modern conservatism.
01:44:01.180And CPAC, if you don't know – again, it is the marquee annual conservative political conference.
01:44:07.220So if you look at the lineup, like, Shmuley's not even on the official lineup that I saw.
01:44:12.780So that's why I really just had to expand to a broader point, make a broader point, because it is important.
01:44:20.900It's important to understanding the modern, global, and especially American and North American political landscape.
01:44:26.600And it's very telling on who is on that speaker lineup and who's not on that speaker lineup and where that speaker – and where that conference was held.
01:44:34.640I mean, they don't – they held that – they don't usually hold that within a European country.
01:44:38.980If you go back to my recollection, those are typically held within American cities.
01:44:44.020So to hold CPAC in an ethnically homogenous, very low Jewish influence, not zero, very anti-immigration, very nationalistic, very Christian country like Poland, that is 100 percent deliberate.
01:44:57.660And then again, objectively analyzing, without a bias, just reading the speaker lineup, who is speaking and who is not speaking, the entire speaker lineup officially stated, as per Krak, there's only two confirmed Jews.
01:45:12.120So – and there's even an Iranian official, a high-ranking Iranian official at that.
01:45:16.720So I just feel like that was the bigger, more important point to make, if I'm completely honest.
01:45:21.900So it wasn't me to like – I have some hair up my ass about people thinking Shmuli's more powerful than he really is.
01:45:27.560I think we know exactly how powerful he is.
01:45:29.520He is dirt on high-level officials, and he's got dirt on politicians and media and business moguls, and I'm sure he leverages that to his advantage.
01:45:38.780But Shapiro got a formal sit-down interview, just to completely dunk on Dan and Mythos here and just sit him down.
01:45:44.800Shapiro got a formal sit-down interview with Zablinski.
01:45:50.120Shmuli got some bootleg selfie photo like at a fucking luncheon.
01:46:46.120What I will argue here, and I will draw from a pop culture reference, if anybody's familiar with the old movie, the usual suspects, in which Kaiser Soze, the cripple, who is actually the underhanded star of the entire show, limps away in the final scene of the movie and iterates something we've probably heard in many other places.
01:47:14.880Is that the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that the devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist.
01:47:21.580And I will just add that to your analysis there, radio, to shore up my point that, objectively, Schmooley funds Shapiro.
01:51:46.660So why would they brown out and affect their, you know, their – I guess the numbers that they get for people visiting the Holocaust Museum?
01:51:56.340Because I was there on like a Wednesday.
01:51:57.700Well, then why does Hungary have similar ethnic makeup?
01:52:03.600I mean, they have very similar stance on immigration in Poland.
01:52:07.340You know, it's majority, like one of the whiter countries in Europe.
01:52:11.820So why is Hungary in the same position?
01:52:21.740They were very hip to the communist shit.
01:52:24.800There's a lot of pushback with communism in Hungary.
01:52:27.700I had a Hungarian friend whose father had a swastikin in his house.
01:52:32.080And I was like, what the fuck is your dad a Nazi for?
01:52:34.920And he said, you know, they knew about communism and his dad and his father supported Hitler.
01:52:41.820So I guess the Hungarians are kind of hip to it.
01:52:45.320But, yeah, I'm just saying, like, you wouldn't believe the numbers that were at – when I visited Auschwitz, they're bringing in buses there.
01:52:54.460Like, I mean, like buses parked everywhere on a Wednesday.
01:53:02.920Like, if you look at some of the stuff that was, like – I visited some of the castles out there that were, like, bombed by the Germans.
01:53:07.680And all their shit's, like, rebuilt, super nice.
01:53:11.020You would never know that it was bombed by, you know, the Germans at all.
01:53:14.240But when you go to Germany and you look at, you know, some of their architecture that was, you know, that the National Socialists were using, it's falling apart.
01:58:47.540And she went through this, like – you know how you, like, go into a fair, and there's, like, a – like, when you enter, there's, like, that wheel thing that you have to walk by, and it spins.
01:59:01.520So she runs through that, and then I'm like, well, if she's running, I'm running.
01:59:05.560So I start running through it, and then I have a backpack on, and he grabs me.
01:59:09.400They grab me by the backpack, so we're, like, fighting, like, in the middle of this, you know, thing, and I'm, like, pulling it, pulling it, pulling it.
01:59:15.320Anyhow, I run, and we're running, and it's, like, thousands of people entering Auschwitz.
02:03:22.940So, Bacon had to pay, I think, like, a $1,000 or $2,000 fine.
02:03:27.580And then I have to pay a $2,000 fine if I want to get back into Poland.
02:03:32.500So, yeah, after that, I went to Germany for a little bit and visited Germany and had to cover up my tattoos because it's a little bit more serious out there.
02:03:42.160You can get in trouble for tattoos out there.
02:03:44.020And you can get arrested for throwing a Roman.
02:03:45.680And, yeah, I just went to Germany and then eventually went back home and was greeted by Homeland Security when I got off the plane.
02:03:54.220And they were wondering why I got arrested in Poland.
02:03:57.960And they had, like, a picture of me and Arian Bacon with this, you know, show of the ADL and this Suck Six Million Dicks photo.
02:04:06.000And they were asking me what I did out there.
02:04:07.520I said, well, you got a picture of it.
02:04:09.000And he goes, yeah, but what was your reason?
02:04:10.240I was like, because the Holocaust is fake.
02:04:11.540You know, you guys should know this stuff.
02:06:56.760Why don't you collect like a dozen of these stories and, you know, offer them to the audience and then try to apply some of those stories to our political dilemma?
02:07:11.140It seems to me like you could actually gain much stronger alliances and a bigger audience if you would share some of these practical, you know, life experiences.
02:07:33.360Okay, well, let me be very, very clear about this.
02:07:36.500These kind of, you know, these kind of, you know, kind of folk stories about what I would consider true activism.
02:07:45.720You know, going to Poland, you know, going to Poland, going to these fucking camps or whatever.
02:07:49.720And then your interplay with these officers, you know, maybe it's just my thing, right?
02:07:55.920But I could take all those stories and present them in a way that all the audience can apply them into our daily lives, to our America, if you will.
02:08:07.860We need more, much more stories like this, real life, on the ground stories to let people know that whether it's a big hit or whether it's just an attempt, all of these things are, they have value.
02:08:22.260And then this would kind of force the conversation instead of everybody jerking themselves off to actually start applying their imagination and, you know, their world experience and how can they make themselves better the next time they do that.
02:08:37.640Because we got 10,000 opportunities in this country do all kinds of shit like this.
02:08:42.160But it is nice to actually hear from a foreign country how an American interplayed with them.
02:08:50.860I don't know this bacon guy, but he sounds like a pretty good comrade, right?
02:08:55.700So these kind of anecdotes is people can really sink their teeth into these kind of stories, right?
02:09:03.200Well, hell, if HT can do it, well, let me just pick my spot in America or Germany or France or wherever.
02:09:10.920And let me give it a shot because it's just that simple.
02:09:14.500It just takes a little bit of balls, kind of a crazy attitude.
02:09:18.540And the fact that you're right and you go ahead and do it.
02:09:44.620I was doing the lasers, right, out in Florida, like these big laser shows on buildings, you know, like when Kanye, you know, did that thing.
02:09:55.640Kanye's right about the Jews, Jews of 9-11.
02:09:57.820We were lasering all these Florida buildings, and it was – you know, they're trying to pass laws against using lasers, you know, and they successfully did.
02:10:04.580But he took the laser to Anne Frank's museum, and he put on Anne Frank's museum with a laser, inventor of the ballpoint pen, on the museum.
02:10:19.980And they were searching for this anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist who, you know, just made the point of saying that, you know, what's up with the ballpoint pen, Anne Frank and the journal?
02:10:33.320And then what transpired from that was those guys in – I believe it was in Paris where they did White Lives Matter on one of the bridges.
02:11:02.100These kind of guerrilla tactics, this is true activism.
02:11:07.920Yeah, and, you know, it's a $3,000 machine, and, you know, it's something that's, you know, you can do in a lot of states still.
02:11:14.760I mean, they're going to – the unfortunate part about this is that they have the legislation to copy and paste, and it's only a matter of time that I believe that if people flyer heavy – like what happened in Florida?
02:11:28.480The same thing happened to John from Clockwork Crew.
02:11:33.440So that's the unfortunate thing is that we're in this situation where it's use your rights before you lose your rights.
02:11:40.100But then if you use your rights, your own people kind of turn their back on you, and they say, well, you're helping laws get passed.
02:11:47.380And so it kind of, you know, it's crippled me a little bit because I feel like, oh, shit, man, that I got to – maybe I got to outsmart this and come at it from a different angle.
02:11:57.320And it makes you kind of fucking pussyfoot, you know, where you're like half-cocked.
02:12:01.200And it kind of takes your fire away from it because you're going so hard, and then you go so hard that you're like, whoa, we're going hard enough to make these lawmakers do stuff, you know?
02:12:11.540And now we're not being looked at as heroes anymore.
02:12:14.280We're looked at as like Mossad agents now, you know?
02:12:17.240So it's damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of deal, you know?
02:12:26.380I need to raise my hand, man, but I just wanted to kind of follow up on that.
02:12:31.020Look, man, laws get passed all the time.
02:12:34.500I don't know what to tell everybody, but, you know, I guess people can make laws all they fucking want, right?
02:12:41.660But what the people want to do, that's a whole other issue, right?
02:12:45.920But kind of leading to the new options, you know, every time something kind of runs its cycle, don't lose your shit.
02:12:53.440Just roll over to something else because there's literally 10,000 opportunities out there.
02:12:59.220Okay, so bottom line, this phrase that I started or this little maxim, imagine, think, and do, man, there is so much shit I want to tell you guys, but I don't talk about it in these spaces.
02:13:15.380I mean, there's just so much you can do.
02:13:44.740But I love that White Lives Matter thing you were talking about on the bridge or whatever.
02:13:49.960That kind of stuff is absolutely awesome, and it's essential, and it's such a – I don't know, man.
02:13:57.300When I was a youngster and I would see, you know, older people carrying placards or, you know, somewhat vitriolic or statements that I had never heard of before, I know how it affected me.
02:14:10.300I know how it affected people around me.
02:14:12.940So obviously visuals and the oratory skills or the confrontation like John had with these police and other establishment figures because, you know, that's how I was raised.
02:14:26.400From the very first time I ever talked to somebody, it was a representative in California about an issue that was close to my heart, actually my family's heart, right?
02:14:37.900And so from the very beginning, I kind of learned how to kind of work the angles, if you will, and it wasn't a big changeup for me.
02:14:46.520If I couldn't get these fuckers in suits to do anything, then I had to figure out a way to do it myself.
02:14:52.020And I'd say seven out of ten things were – they weren't illegal, at least at first, right?
02:15:00.340But I didn't see anybody else doing it.
02:15:02.440So to me, I was like playing I Spy shit, and it all worked.
02:15:26.540Well, and to your point earlier, Frank, about the people that attack our own for, you know, exercising their rights and the government clamps down, this is like analogous to someone blaming a rape victim for getting raped.
02:15:46.620Because she was, you know, on the streets wearing a little black dress.
02:16:25.760I always try to get – word of the wise, there's a time to be tough, and there's a time to shake these guys' hands.
02:16:33.760Because it really makes the enemies see so much when you sit there and you trash talk these officers, you know, and just run them through the gamut, just name-call the shit out of them.
02:16:47.020And then afterwards, you're like, all right, we'll leave.
02:16:50.080And then you put out their hand – you put out your hand like, you better shake my hand if you want me to leave.
02:16:54.680And then you get the photo of them shaking your hand.
02:16:57.940And then the freaking – the leftists go, look at these racist white supremacist cops.
02:17:03.760You're shaking the hands of these neo-Nazis.