The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and their connection to the Talmud and Talmud, and the controversy over whether they are a forgery, a hoax, or something authentic? In this episode, we discuss the history of the protocols, and how they were forged.
00:06:20.000It seems quite small until you go into some of the details, in which case it gets really big, really, really, really fast.
00:06:30.000Now, a lot of you either come from the perspective of, oh, the protocols are real, or, oh, no, they're just, you know, they're something that happened circa 1900, or they are something, you know, that might be real, might not be, or people who just think they're not, which is completely understandable.
00:06:49.000All these positions are understandable.
00:06:52.000And part of the problem we've got in terms of history is that a lot of the literature, I would be hesitant to call it, on the protocols is just very, very bad.
00:07:06.000Unless you go very, very early, you start to get very real points to do the protocols.
00:07:15.000So one of the things that really shows up quite early on in a lot of the protocols research is that there is a desperation to debunk them.
00:07:29.000So what you may be familiar with is that very early on, a book was published by Herman, I think it was Herman Bernstein, whereby he claims that they're a forgery.
00:07:44.000Now, you're probably from thinking, okay, this is probably, this is probably the, this is the, one sec.
00:08:01.000So one of the things that, sorry, I just lost, because I lost my thought, someone sent me a message.
00:08:07.000So one of the things that we need to understand is that, so early on, this, this particular theme was brought out.
00:08:15.000So we have this idea that, basically that the protocols were light, that were accused of being light, were accused of being incorrect, much,
00:08:29.000being accused to be a production of Morris Jolie's dialogues and health in 1864, much earlier than not.
00:08:39.000The problem is, is that this is actually untrue.
00:08:45.000But in 1919, Herman, I think it was Herman Bernstein, said very, very bluntly, I know, no, it wasn't Herman Bernstein, I think it might have been Ginsburg.
00:08:53.000But regardless, one of them may, one of the authors on the protocols very early on said, these are documents which are forgery.
00:09:02.000They are, they are forged by, and the, the text given is, was Herman, Herman, Herman Godesh's, sorry, Godesh's novel Bielitz, and it has a famous, famous passage in it called the Rabbi's Speech.
00:09:20.000So, Godesh's book was written, the original, originally written the source text, and this changes in 1921 to the Dialogues in Hell.
00:09:29.000Now, the problem really starts in the timeline.
00:09:36.000So, rather than try and explain to you all the regular timeline, I've actually just recreated the thing, the actual timeline that we, that we, as it stands in the research.
00:09:46.000So, in, so, late 1901, 1902, the original document, which is, whatever the protocols are, is discovered, written, created,
00:09:56.000and Nikolai Menchikov mentions the existence of the protocols in the New Times in April 1902.
00:10:03.000In 1903, we had the first publication of the original protocols in the banner by, by Pavel Khushivan, in a series of seven installments beginning in September of that year.
00:10:14.000So, 1904, we have, we have partial, partial, partial repubblication in the third edition of Lutychansky's, um, basically the, uh, Talmud i Evli, Talmud as the Jews, um, which is the, includes the first link to Zionism.
00:10:34.000So, in 1905, we, it starts to be where you, kind of, more recognize the, the figures.
00:10:40.000Sergey Niles publishes a longer, and heavily edited version of the protocols as an appendix to his book, um, on the coming of, the coming of the Antichrist called The Great and the Small.
00:10:50.000In addition to three anonymous editions, which are shorter than Khushivan's original, but date from his time.
00:10:56.000We see then the introduction of Freemasonry and the removal of Altus and Reston with references from the text.
00:11:02.000Georgie Buttman de Kackman publishes a different version of the protocols again, as an appendix to the third edition of his book, Enemies of the Human Race.
00:11:11.000And then he does the same thing in the fourth edition in 1907.
00:11:15.000Sergey Niles republishes the book, republishes his The Great and the Small as a second edition with no substantial changes.
00:11:23.000In 1912, the same, but third edition for Niles.
00:11:28.000And 1917, the book is republished in, again, for the fourth edition, with a substantial change to the protocols text and the beginning of the attribution of the protocols to Theodor Herzl.
00:11:40.000Now, what does this chronology really mean?
00:11:44.000It means that the first month of the protocols occurs in 1902, early on, while in the first text we have the document itself comes in 1903, as well as how the protocols began to be redacted and added to as early as late 1903, early 1904, and how they continue to be added and changed to.
00:12:03.000Secondly, that the edition that is popularly produced, so that's the one you will know probably, comes from the fourth edition of Sergey Niles in 1917, which has been substantially revised in some quarters by the use of the edition of the first edition of 1905.
00:12:18.000This thus informs us that contrary to the received popular wisdom on both sides of the argument, we are in fact dealing in terms of the common version with a composite document that has been changed by different authors until a definitive version of the document and its origins happened to be created, larger by accident, by Ludwig Müller von Häusen, who is better known by his nom de Plum Gottfried zum Beek, having brought it back to Germany and published it there, allegedly through the Field Society.
00:12:44.000Again, another interesting little tie-in.
00:12:47.000Now, clearly we're faced with a problem in the Orthodox account of the Protocols, once we recognise that we're dealing with different traditions and versions of the same document.
00:12:55.000Because many key arguments against the Protocols, such as the jolly plagiarism assertion and the internal contradictions and absurdities claim, lose much and infrequently all of their explanatory power when we actually know the timeline.
00:13:08.000Well, simply put, if we're dealing with a complete transmission of the original document, then we can reasonably place it under the analytical microscope to see how it holds up.
00:13:18.000However, we cannot place that document under the analytical microscope if we do not know or cannot use its original form precisely because if we are not dealing with the original, then we are only dealing with an edited or changed edition of that document.
00:13:31.000So we cannot criticise, let alone disregard the original document because we've analysed a substantially altered later version of it.
00:13:38.000Instead, the process must necessarily be to reconstruct and or obtain a copy of the original document so that it can work with it as otherwise we're dealing with inconsistent intellectual propositions in terms of trying to negate the issue of addition and text, attacking the original by using a later version.
00:13:55.000It's rather like trying to analyse a wolf by analysing a breed of dog instead.
00:13:59.000So some might object here and argue that what we anti-semites use as a later edition and while that is indeed true, it is an invalid argument in as far as arguing that because anti-semites, as well as critics of the Jews in general, have correctly and incorrectly used the later edited text to try and explain more events.
00:14:17.000It is thus fine for Jews to use that same text to disprove the original document, but in spite of their tacit and sometimes even open acknowledgement by citing work which informs them of the detail of the problem, the document they are actually tacking is not the original document.
00:14:32.000So, in a sense, they're a constitution in terms.
00:14:36.000This attitude is thoroughly and socially dishonest and is personified in the work of Alex Grobman, who is associated with the ADL, who uses Cohn, as in Norman Cohn, more on him later, to prove, quote-unquote, that the primary author of the Protocols was Matteo Golivanski, a journalist who is somewhat linked to the Paris office of the Oclana, which is the Russian secret police of the Tsarist period.
00:14:59.000While not mentioning the issue of multiple editions, instead Grobman appears to be using the primary author notion to imply the age-old plagiarism and anti-Jewish conspiracy meme that actually predates any evidence at all that was just such a theory.
00:15:13.000That's my kind of point around that you have to know the whens and the dates to make sense of it.
00:15:19.000But, essentially, you've got a problem where the claims of plagiarism predate the Kearns and the Paris office and the Oclana and the Jolie plagiarism claims, quite substantially, actually.
00:15:36.000We, therefore, have to conclude that the original document is not one that has actually been criticized, especially as most start from Millicent's 1905 edition, which contains a significant number of major variations.
00:15:46.000In nearly all literature on the Protocols, we cannot admit any argument against for or against the Protocols authenticity without clarification of what the original text actually said.
00:15:55.000We can demonstrate the futility of criticism based on these later editions by pointing out several major issues with using later versions of the Protocols as Cohen's study and the many who have followed him do.
00:16:05.000Now, these are just to kind of list some of the some of the problems or differences.
00:16:09.000For example, the text of the Nils edition is significantly longer when compared to the Crucivan edition, so 1905 to 1903.
00:16:17.000The amount of allegedly plagiarized material as a percentage of the total substantially increases in later editions, but the most notable jump is from the Crucivan edition to the Nils edition, so 1903 to 1905.
00:16:28.000Hence the problem of using the Nils edition in 1905.
00:16:31.000There are Old Testament references and quotes in the Crucivan edition that are simply omitted from the Nils edition, which again is an argument used against the Protocols.
00:16:39.000Say, oh, it doesn't have Old Testament references, it doesn't have Torah references.
00:16:43.000There is no mention of Freemasons in the Crucivan edition, but there are numerous in the Nils edition.
00:16:49.000The Crucivan edition is not divided in the Protocols at all, while the Nils edition is.
00:16:54.000The Crucivan edition contains numerous Ukrainianisms and clarifying sentences that the Nils edition emits.
00:17:00.000We can see there are significant problems of using the Nils text as a basis for debunking the Protocols, as, for example, Jacobs and Weizmann have tried to do.
00:17:09.000In the tradition of early Jewish partisans like Siegel and Bernstein, therefore we can suggest that any attempt to debunk or confirm the Protocols based on
00:17:17.000the Nils edition translations cannot be correct as there is a yet to know foreign language of Dimitlis's Russian language Reconstruction, which, by the way, I've commissioned a translation of in English.
00:17:30.000But what you probably don't know, and probably the story you've all heard, is that they were created in Paris in the in the 1900s as a conspiracy.
00:17:40.000What you probably don't know about that is when that particular argument comes about.
00:17:44.000That argument comes about in 1933 to 1935.
00:17:49.000It does not come about in 1919 or 1917 or 1921.
00:17:59.000It's a legal story, because you've got to remember the Bern trial in 1933 to 1935 is the Jewish, the Swiss Jewish Federation's attack on local National Socialist activists who were using, promoting the Protocols.
00:18:12.000So they decided they were going to sue them over some pretext, a bit like the false news trial that Zendel had to deal with in the late 80s.
00:18:19.000The truth is, is that this is a story because they had to come up with an they had to come come up with a counter narrative.
00:18:25.000They had to come up with an argument about what the protocols were, where they came from.
00:18:29.000And what they did is they adopted this art, this this thesis.
00:18:32.000So they basically they basically ignored evidence and they just flushed it out.
00:18:36.000Now, one thing that you probably don't know is that a lot of this was all paid for.
00:18:40.000So a lot of the witnesses in the Bern trial are paid for.
00:18:45.000So they're not they're not they're not doing it for free.
00:18:47.000They're not doing because they believe in it.
00:18:48.000They're doing it because they because they're paid and they're paid by Jews.
00:18:52.000On the other side, you have people like Ulish Fleischauer, who was running the world against new syndication service of the Third Reich under Alfred Rosenberg at the time.
00:19:02.000And in fact, what they found in more recent years, particularly the work of Michael Hagemeister and Michael Demichlis has been that the anti protocols, the pro protocol side of the ones who did the good research was the anti protocol side of the ones who did the bad research.
00:19:20.000Because a lot of the what we what we what we now come to know and most recent research indicates that what have happened was that the burn is that the the anti the protocol side in the burn trial.
00:19:35.000Included a lot of people who had been working in around the protocols for nearly a century, not a century, sorry, a decade plus.
00:19:46.000So there are people you might know, for example.
00:20:18.000And he co-edited a publication called the Revue de la Salle des Secrets, which did a lot of the actual dog, the legwork to do with this.
00:20:29.000So the well, so the pro protocol side in the in the burn trial very heavily benefited from that.
00:20:36.000But the anti protocols narrative is the one we know because it's the one that got promoted.
00:20:41.000What you probably don't know is that the burn trials verdict, which relegated the protocols were nonsense, was actually overturned in 1937 on the basis that it was nonsense.
00:20:53.000Right. So what of what I call the problem of Paris.
00:20:59.000The protocols of Zion originate from Paris has been the central element of the myth that surrounds them.
00:21:05.000And survives reports to explain where they come from and also why they are important as Paris was this time a major sense of Jewish life in Europe.
00:21:13.000This explanation has been utilized by both sides of the debate, which are best described as by exposing them into different majority propositions.
00:21:20.000Filii Semites and Jews portray the alleged events of Paris, stating them between nineteen eighteen ninety four and eight ninety seven as being with an incident conspiracy by the station chief of your parcel of Peter Varkovsky.
00:21:32.000Decided to try to gain the favor in Russian court for their views by uncovering a document of forged by an exiled Russian journalist named Matthew Golovansky.
00:21:42.000That proved beyond doubt the truth of the contention that there was a Jewish conspiracy against Russia.
00:21:47.000Not that needed much evidence, but that's by the by.
00:21:50.000This was, however, not circulated at court for reasons that are not make clear by the state proponents to let alone suggesting reasonable evidence for their case other than quote unquote coincidence and the deceptive principle of Kibono, who benefits.
00:22:03.000Anti-Semites as well as anti-Semites as well as anti-Zionists who maintain a strong anti-Zionist line portray the events of Paris, stating them between 1894 and 1897 again,
00:22:20.000as being when either a Jewish double agent, Shorst or Efron, through the Ocrana infiltrated and stole the protocols from the Masonic Lodge in Paris in 1894 or 1895 or the first Zionist Congress in 1897.
00:22:35.000It's sometimes suggested that they were stolen from her sort of private papers.
00:22:39.000Or a long time Russian expatriate in Paris, Madame Justine Golinka, stole them from a Jew of her acquaintance.
00:22:47.000These were alternatively either transmitted to Russia when they were promptly filed or brought back to Russia by Major Alexander Sokotin,
00:22:54.000who then had them published through the auspices of General Stepanov and Sergei Nilsson his return.
00:22:59.000Now, just to pause briefly, I will say that Michael Hagermeister has in his most recent monograph on the protocols,
00:23:07.000pointed out that he's done research into Justine Golinka, proving that she's a real person,
00:23:13.000and that she was associated with a Jew who was called, I think it was Efron or Shorst.
00:23:19.000I can't believe it. It was one of those two.
00:23:21.000And these are very real characters. They were there at the time.
00:23:26.000They do appear to have some relation to the protocols, and there is some evidence that could be the true origin of the protocols.
00:23:33.000We don't know that. What we do know is that there is evidence that tends that way, but it's not conclusive.
00:23:42.000And even Hagermeister pointed out that basically without that evidence, without a smoking gun,
00:23:47.000you can't go that last step to say that L. Fry's thesis in Water Slowing Eastwards and Yuan's work was fundamentally right,
00:24:00.000and that they were there to do with Golinka and that they come from Shorst to Efron.
00:24:04.000However, both versions of these events are established by three very different witnesses, two for the Philo-Semites, one for the anti-Semites.
00:24:15.000They seem to point to a French and more particularly Parisian origins for the protocols, or do they?
00:24:21.000The problem with this is actually deceptively simple, insofar as we're dealing with three witnesses who unfortunately don't seem to know anything about the document they're talking about.
00:24:30.000They contradict each other, produce impossible timelines, and appear sometime after the protocols have become famous,
00:24:36.000in addition to having, in each case, easy to discern motives for claiming to be an unknowing witness, to use Dimitlis's terminology.
00:24:45.000The first witness we need to interrogate is the most famous of all protocols witnesses, as it's from her that the anti-protocols term line is derived, Princess Catherine Radziwal.
00:24:55.000Radziwal was a rather eccentric Polish princess, author of the New Year's books before, during and after the Baltic Revolution,
00:25:01.000with a sense of compulsive, and also an occasional white-collar criminal.
00:25:06.000She famously tried to con Cecil Rhodes out of a lot of money.
00:25:10.000So Radziwal claims that she saw either the addition of Ljuchanski or Nillis, which we can discern from her dating, in 1904 and 1905,
00:25:20.000in the offices of the Palace of Plana, and she named Slakowsky and Golovinsky as being the principal architects.
00:25:27.000However, as Berseth had pointed out in Latubian Youth in 1921, she wasn't even in Paris at the time.
00:25:34.000Some, following Koen's work, tried to negate this chronological issue by a certain that Radziwal was simply mistaken years after that.
00:25:42.000I tried to buttress this by pointing out that both Radziwal and Dushila, the other proxelistic witness,
00:25:48.000said that they saw a document on a New Year's paper with an ink stain and different handwriting.
00:25:52.000This is indeed true, but such a coincidence that between two witnesses who differ on all of the details cannot be admitted for the simple reason
00:25:58.000that they have no proof they even saw the document in the first place, other than their say-so.
00:26:03.000Besides the description, as a list of my knowledge have failed to note, it is not very specific.
00:26:07.000It is a very general and such, could have easily been conceived of independently and have been just a happy coincidence for the Protocols debunkers,
00:26:14.000by Lucian Wolfe, who was already championing the idea of anti-Semitic conspirological protocols from the Parasoprana before there was any actual evidence for it.
00:26:23.000In addition, we have to remember that Radziwal does not have a good character.
00:26:28.000She was, after all, a convicted criminal and an obsessive-compulsive.
00:26:32.000As much as some may want to believe her testimony as it confirms their pet theory, we cannot hold her to be anything but a dubious source at best.
00:26:40.000After all, the question must be, why did she wait so late to quote-unquote remember all that she did?
00:26:46.000And why could she recall such general details of yellowish paper, ink-stained, and different handwriting, but then get the year she allegedly saw it out by a decade?
00:26:54.000Now, what if Radziwal is somehow telling the truth and saw an edition of the Protocol, which she identifies as a 1904 or 1905 edition in the office of Parasoprana?
00:27:04.000Now, we know she was unaware of the 1903 publication, and this therefore puts pay to the notion of her having seen an original copy.
00:27:12.000But at the same time, it's quite probably reasonable to suggest that she saw the Ljuchansky Ordinalist Edition, especially when we remember that Ljuchansky's work was actually a source book on anti-Jewish literature and was frequently published with updates.
00:27:23.000This would neatly explain Radziwal's claim without disregarding it, and also answering the issue of how Radziwal knew that the document she generally described was the Protocols, as the Protocols Titles and Linkage Designism, which she mentions, had now come into use.
00:27:38.000Thus, even if we wish to admit that Radziwal is, and it is obvious that she is not a reliable source and that her testimony cannot be explained in a more plausible or sensitive scenario,
00:27:49.000that hasn't been explored by any author of the practicals to my knowledge other than myself.
00:27:54.000The second witness we need to interrogate is Armand Alexandre du Blanquer du Chayla, who is a somewhat mysterious French nobleman who spent a lot of time in Russia in the early 20th century.
00:28:05.000There's also a problem with du Chayla in that he is known to have been a con man.
00:28:10.000Anyway, but now I have, as I was just by implication, du Chayla is the key piece in the puzzle, in that he and nothing else is what is used by Cohen to build his theory about the origin,
00:28:19.000of the Protocols in the Paris Office of the Oklahoma.
00:28:23.000Unfortunately, for Cohen and many others who argue this hypothesis, du Chayla is a far more problematic than even Radziwal.
00:28:29.000It's hard to claim to have seen Niles in 1905 version 1901, when Niles was introduced to the Russian court.
00:28:35.000The problem with that is that we definitely know that Niles' version was published in 1905, not 1901,
00:28:39.000and that Niles was introduced at court in 1905, not 1901.
00:28:43.000Further, du Chayla's account of Niles replaced another mystic.
00:28:47.000Du Chayla's account of Niles replaced another mystic, one Philippe, at the court placed the incident definitively in 1905.
00:28:53.000Because Philippe is quite well known, he is the predecessor Rasputin, as it happens.
00:28:59.000Among other things, du Chayla reproduces an account of the travels of Niles going to Germany,
00:29:05.000commonly vapidly attributing the following Kern to a lapse of memory.
00:29:10.000In late 1918 to early 1919 is actually the account of Niles' son.
00:29:15.000This is all dubious enough, given the fact that du Chayla is supposed to corroborate Radziwal,
00:29:20.000and this scale of divergence in general accuracy is simply unacceptable and also central to an already speculative theory.
00:29:27.000However, there is another problem with du Chayla,
00:29:30.000and that he seems to have been an agent of the Soviet Union, at least as early as 1919,
00:29:35.000when he was expelled from Crimea by General Rangel for being a Bolshevik agent,
00:29:38.000and the only reason he was not summary shot was because he was a French citizen.
00:29:42.000Given the centrality of du Chayla's testimony and the work done by Soviet archivists,
00:29:47.000as well as the pro-Bolshev Jewish author Alexander Targa, to try and find proof for it,
00:29:53.000it is quite likely, as Dmitrius concludes, that du Chayla has been put up in his practical testimony
00:29:59.000by the USSR's Commissariat for Foreign Affairs.
00:30:02.000He was accused of working for Geordi Tchalin, the head of this ministry at the time, by General Rangel.
00:30:10.000In case you think that I am suggesting that du Chayla's story regarding this is made from whole cloth,
00:30:15.000we do know that du Chayla did know any of this for a time,
00:30:18.000but the fact that du Chayla made some mistakes in and around the protocols,
00:30:21.000as well as that he waited until 1921 to come forward with his testimony,
00:30:24.000and also a singularly implausible story of how he came to notice the protocols and write his testimony,
00:30:29.000suggesting that it had been directed towards the rapidly selling protocols,
00:30:32.000points to a Soviet involvement in debunking the protocols.
00:30:37.000Then we have to conclude that not only is du Chayla dishonest,
00:30:40.000but in fact we can establish the reasonable level of certainty that he is acting in the interests of a government,
00:30:46.000trying to manipulate the protocols, and later the Bern trial,
00:30:49.000with misinformation directly against the forces of the radical right,
00:30:52.000which we know the Soviet Union, which was Soviet policy at this time.
00:30:55.000We also know that of parallel to Soviet propagandists of manipulating events such as this to see the propaganda at the time.
00:31:02.000Now, all this is a fact that largely discredits the Bern trial in 1934 as an argument,
00:31:06.000precisely because du Chayla is the central witness that links the protocols to the Uthrashan Orkana,
00:31:11.000after Radziwall certainly was judged by the court, which you probably aren't told again,
00:31:15.000Radziwall was basically thrown out by the court at Bern, to be heavily flawed.
00:31:20.000Now, the third witness, who is the anti-Semitic witness, is General Philip Stepanov.
00:31:25.000Stepanov offered parietal, although flawed testimonies that an anonymous lady,
00:31:29.000who we now know as Madame Justin Galinka,
00:32:24.000protocols that was attached by Duchansky and Niles to them.
00:32:27.000Indeed, I would argue that because Stepanov's testimony comes from 1927,
00:32:31.000it is not unreasonable to suggest that cross-pollination in his testimony from the later attribution of the protocols by Niles to Herzl in 1897,
00:32:38.000which was then properly supported by Müller von Zuhalsen and Theodor Fritschman brothers.
00:32:45.000I will also note that although we have circumstantial evidence of the origin from Sigortin,
00:32:50.000we should bear in mind that we have no evidence and indeed good evidence against transmission from Galinka.
00:33:55.000these three pieces of witness testimony are weak and or dubious sources for a Parisian origin of the Protocols,
00:34:04.000and the strongest of the three, Stepanov, contradicts nearly all these interpretations as to the origins that are given in the literature.
00:34:12.000It is thus clear that without these witnesses, we cannot have a French origin of the Protocols.
00:34:18.000The fact that Rakowski's involvement has now been established, sorry, that's me, my notes repeating.
00:34:25.000Just to give you some example that I'm not alone in this particular conclusion,
00:34:29.000Charles Rudd and Sergei Stepanov wrote in their academic book on the Oakhlana in 1999 that
00:34:36.000many historians today contend that the Oakhlana did target the Jews collectively as a revolution,
00:34:41.000as revolutionary at the turn of the century, and as a primary servant, they point to the fortunate Protocols of Zion.
00:34:47.000The precise origins remain a mystery, but even as no concrete evidence has come to light about when, where,
00:34:52.000and by whom their drafting took place,
00:34:54.000solid data on the Oakhlana protocols before the revolution explode the feces of the corona involvement.
00:35:00.000Only six different printings are known in Russian before the revolution,
00:35:04.000merely one of which can be remotely linked to government.
00:35:06.000And that's basically them saying, this is nonsense.
00:35:10.000They didn't come from the Russian secret police.
00:35:13.000There's no evidence they did. Just shut up and sit down, let's speak.
00:35:18.000Now, you've probably all heard of Norman Cohen's book, Warrant for Genocide,
00:35:22.000but there is a little bit of a back story that has only been recently been highlighted by Michael Hagemeister
00:35:29.000in one of his footnotes in his recent monograph.
00:35:33.000He says, basically, Cohen did no independent research, preferring to compile the findings of others.
00:35:39.000Most of them stem from Boris Nikolevsky, although this is not clear from Cohen's book itself,
00:35:43.000which was published after Nikolevsky's death, and does not reveal his contribution.
00:35:48.000It is apparent from the correspondence between Nikolevsky and Cohen's Russian wife Vera from 1964 to 1966,
00:35:55.000which is available at the Hoover Institution at Stanford.
00:35:58.000As already mentioned, Nikolevsky was convinced that the origins of the protocols had nothing to do with Rakowski and Nurkana,
00:36:03.000and that the key witness for that narrative, Alexander Dushaila, was a swindler.
00:36:07.000It was time he wrote to abandon the accusations against Rakowski, and they stood in the way of researching the protocols.
00:36:13.000Nevertheless, Norman Cohen held onto Dushaila and his tale.
00:36:17.000Basically, what Hagemeister is saying here is that Norman Cohen's work for genocide is a work of plagiarism.
00:36:23.000So he's plagiarizing Boris Nikolevsky, he is basically lying, and he is not, he's being academically dishonest.
00:36:33.000And what the story you've been told throughout the years to support the Parasoclona thesis from the Byrne trial,
00:36:39.000which is basically Cohen and his wife genocide, is nonsense. It's complete and utter nonsense.
00:36:45.000Now, let's move on to what the other bits of the protocols and what they actually are.
00:36:51.000So, Theodor Fritsch, who was the Altmaster of the NSDAP, famously called the protocols
00:36:59.000The Zionist in Protocol, echoing Ludwig Müller von Häusern's estimate of them based on the theory of them originating from Theodor Herzl
00:37:06.000in the first Zionist Congress in Beysland in 1897.
00:37:10.000Now, this is in contrast to popular myths circulated about the protocols that actually have the basis.
00:37:15.000In fact, insofar as numerous passages of the protocols have been noted to potentially derive,
00:37:20.000or in terminology a literature likes to use, plagiarize from Theodor Herzl's de Jürgenstadt.
00:37:27.000Therefore, I would argue that the fact that the protocols contains nearly direct quotes from Theodor Herzl's de Jürgenstadt,
00:37:33.000as opposed to the alleged paraphrasing of Jolie, is actually evidence that we are here dealing with what something that appeared,
00:37:38.000originally appeared in the source for the Christian edition, as opposed to text that was later arguably added to the protocols.
00:37:45.000It's indeed true. If it is indeed true, then we need to realize that this does raise the very real possibility that the source of the protocols is a document that derives from Zionism.
00:37:53.000Since, as Dumitlis has pointed out, the Jürgenstadt envisions a dictatorial, autocratic type of Jewish government,
00:37:59.000and that Herzl's transition to thinking in terms of a democratic Jewish state only occurs in his novel, Auf Neuland.
00:38:05.000Now, while it's indeed possible that Antinstein might use Herzl's de Jürgenstadt to give credence to their alleged forgery,
00:38:17.000it's unclear as to why they would go to the trouble of copying direct quotes out of it and then paraphrasing Jolie's dialogues as well,
00:38:23.000as the numerous works that have been alleged to have been plagiarized to create the protocols,
00:38:27.000which, as Bolton rightly observed, actually demolishes the whole plagiarism on the grounds of common sense.
00:38:33.000It doesn't follow that a satire or a forgery would be so illogical as to plagiarize one source directly,
00:38:41.000and then steal lots of other quotes from the initial sources, some Jewish and some not,
00:38:45.000and that would then be paraphrased when the satire or the forgery would be more effective if it simply quoted these sources being examples of what has been achieved.
00:38:53.000The original translators note concerned the Marx, Darwin, so the Darwin, Nietzsche, Marx quote,
00:38:59.000which Niles then added into the text of the protocol, which is one of the most common ways of attacking them,
00:39:05.000which in fact has nothing to do with the protocols.
00:39:07.000It's actually a translators note from Pavel Prishivan that Niles included.
00:39:13.000Also, why did they only plagiarize Herzl? And why not other Jewish Zionist sources that they had access to?
00:39:19.000We can see that we can see that the problems of the anti-protocols arguments simply multiply when we ask pertinent questions about the conclusions that they've reached in the study of what we know about the protocols.
00:39:29.000Thus, because the protocols quotes Herzl's de Huydenstadt directly and paraphrases all its other plagiarisms,
00:39:35.000we can see that Herzl's de Huydenstadt was likely part of the resource document, the protocols,
00:39:39.000and that therefore it was either some kind of anti-dissertation linking ideas on power politics and Zionism together,
00:39:44.000or it's the Jewish document like in the Zionist origin.
00:39:47.000The formula is plausible, but we have no actual evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, suggests that that is the case.
00:39:52.000Otherwise, it's just visual thinking of the anti-protocol side of the debate.
00:39:55.000But in the latter case, we have circumstantial evidence to point to just such a conclusion.
00:40:00.000That evidence we can derive from the context in which the protocols came to light,
00:40:04.000as we can actually accurately date the origin of the protocols between 1901 and early 1903,
00:40:09.000given the references toward events such as the assassination of President McKinley in 1901.
00:40:14.000This combined with the Ukrainianisms in the Christian edition gives us a very specific locale and time period,
00:40:20.000late 1901 to early 1903 in the general area and or close to Ukraine.
00:40:25.000Now, the Ukraine at this time was a tinderbox of conflict between revolutionary Jewish movements,
00:40:31.000both Zionist and Marxist, and anti-Jewish movements associated with the anti-Jewish Ukrainian nationalists,
00:40:36.000or the famous Black hundreds, who actually opposed each other as well.
00:40:40.000This means we have a situation where radical political and intellectual programs are likely to be put forward and adopted,
00:40:46.000as well as a climate of learning from the enemies, where anti-Jewish ideas were filtered into Jewish thought and vice versa.
00:40:52.000Then on the 6th and 7th of April 1903, we have the famous Kishinev pogrom, next to the Ukraine and now in Moldova,
00:40:59.000that was conducted by locals against the Jewish population,
00:41:02.000on the charge that the Jews had richly murdered a young Christian boy in a town
00:41:06.000slightly more than poison, a Christian girl in a Jewish hospital.
00:41:09.000This violent rising of Russian workers and peasants against the Jews was egged on and pushed further
00:41:14.000by a widely read local newspaper called The Israel Serabian,
00:41:17.000whose publisher and leading light just so happened to be Pavel Krishivan, the first publisher of the Protocols.
00:41:23.000Now, we know quite a lot about the Kishinev pogrom, that it was close to a major center of Zionist activity,
00:41:29.000the city of Odessa, where Vladimir Jabotinsky gives his first lecture on his extreme and his extreme Zionist variant,
00:41:38.000a revisionist Zionism, on 7th of April 1903, after hearing about the pogrom.
00:41:43.000We know that, for example, a large quantity of Jewish Taurus schools were desecrated,
00:41:46.000and that the pogromists took a large quantity of money, goods and objects from the Jews during the pogrom itself.
00:41:51.000Now, with a direct connection to the first Edited Protocols, a major center of the Zionist movement in the Russian Empire,
00:41:57.000where extreme variants like his original Zionism were forming,
00:42:00.000and that we know of objects of importance to Jews were either damaged or taken,
00:42:04.000we can make a rather revolutionary suggestion.
00:42:07.000The source document, the pressure rendition was based on, was actually taken from the Kishinev pogrom,
00:42:11.000and that it was some kind of Zionist document or local plan.
00:42:15.000This is not quite so outlandish as it might at first sound,
00:42:18.000given that we know that several supporting factors for such a source origin.
00:42:22.000The first is all that I have just stated, and particularly the proximity to Odessa,
00:42:27.000which is a center of the mainstream for the Zionist movement,
00:42:30.000and the singular use of direct quotes and herzels to Judenstab.
00:42:34.000The second is that in September 1902, there was a Pan-Russian Zionist Congress in Minsk,
00:42:39.000which included moderate as well as extreme Zionists all over the Ukraine and the Southern Russian Empire.
00:42:44.000This would have meant that there was a drive to write down various ideas and concepts for discussion,
00:42:48.000which at the Zionist conference would have included heavy quotation of herzels,
00:42:51.000which explains the direct quotes as opposed to paraphrasing which is otherwise used.
00:42:56.000Third, that Khrushivan, as the celebrated local publisher and well-known critic of the Jews,
00:43:01.000would have been the first port of call for any pogromist,
00:43:03.000who had found something they considered to be important,
00:43:06.000but did not want to hang on to, given that the attorney authorities,
00:43:09.000who considered the pogrom an international embarrassment,
00:43:11.000although Jews have consistently claimed it was anti-Semitic conspiracy by the central government,
00:43:14.000rather falsely, were actively prosecuted.
00:43:19.000It is thus reasonable that they would have given the incriminations to Khrushivan,
00:43:25.000who could then spirited away to friends like Menshikov and Butmi,
00:43:28.000outside of the sphere of the official investigation by the authorities from Odessa,
00:43:36.000The fourth is that Khrushivan would have had to publish the protocols away from the Ukraine and Bezrabia,
00:43:42.000precisely because of the official investigation,
00:43:45.000which was focused on his role as an instigator of the pogrom locally,
00:43:48.000and as such would have been aroused an official investigation if he'd come forward with the source documents for the protocols at this stage,
00:43:56.000which would inevitably lead to his being put on trial for complicity in the pogrom,
00:44:02.000as well as the trial of his human source for similar charges, as well as theft.
00:44:08.000We should remember that here that each of the 22 pogromists brought to trial in relation to the Khrushivan
00:44:15.000were charged separately rather than as a group,
00:44:18.000and would stand trial not as a group but as separate individuals.
00:44:21.000This would allow further charges to be easily brought by the ensuing investigation.
00:44:26.000One that might add would inevitably result in the conviction and punishment of Khrushivan
00:44:29.000and his human source for stealing such a document from the Jews, irrespective of the document's contents.
00:44:35.000That means, in effect, that Khrushivan published the source document from which the protocols comes.
00:44:39.000It would have been, had meant certain pudgivism and unlikely that Khrushivan did not know
00:44:43.000of the substantial diplomatic pressure being placed on the rubbish Russian Empire rather than the United States.
00:44:48.000At the behest of its Jewish minority, it was growing in power,
00:44:50.000and it was already utilising the scare tactics they later adopted as a group of exploiting Gentile incidents to bolster and front their causes.
00:44:58.000Which would then have interpreted, which, which he would have then interpreted as part of a Jewish attempt to revenge itself on him.
00:45:04.000And others associated with the Khrushivan pogrom, as well as the 1993 Gommel pogrom in Belarus,
00:45:10.000which occurred about, about the same time as the protocols were published in Zemanja, which is the banner.
00:47:19.000So, the banner was located out of the jurisdiction of the Court of Odessa.
00:47:24.000It was published in Petrograd, which is now St. Petersburg.
00:47:27.000And to legally attack Khrushchevan and the Court of Odessa would need to go through the higher levels of the Russian government,
00:47:32.000which Khrushchevan could expect, as a patriotic anti-Jewish publisher, the amount of legal protection that would be more difficult to exercise locally in a major center of Jewish influence like Odessa.
00:47:42.000So, bearing this on mind, we've got a fairly good circumstantial case that we, that, for assigning the source of the protocols to a local anti-Jewish group or individual that was likely associated with Zionist thought.
00:47:54.000And that this source document was then transmitted through another one of Khrushchevan's publishing channels out of concern for well-being of his source.
00:48:09.000So, you know, how it all get, how it all happens about.
00:48:12.000And also the contradiction explanations for, you know, why, you know, what, how it occurs, how it turns up, how it turns up, where it explains it all.
00:48:21.000And as well as also around the confused French origin of the protocols.
00:48:24.000And, you know, just explains kind of why we get some of these weird sort of stories.
00:48:28.000I mean, it also explains why that we have, why it has this very early reference to it being a Zionist document.
00:48:33.000Why would, why would that be the case?
00:48:35.000But it also explains that there's a key fact that's quite hard to explain otherwise, which is why Menshikov referenced a protocol style document existing in April 1902.
00:48:44.000Which, which, in which you may have heard of in relation to the pan-Zionist Russian Congress.
00:48:48.000So, again, it's another one that kind of makes a lot of sense if you just, if you stop and think about it and you know the detail.
00:48:54.000But coming back to what you were asking there, White, you were asking about how they, the trials were to debunk it and how they try and do it in the end.
00:49:06.000And the way they do it is, it's a little bit strange and a lot has been found in recent years.
00:49:10.000It's kind of interesting because it's through a Times journalist called Philip Graves.
00:49:16.000Now, Philip Graves is an interesting person, but we'll cover that in a second.
00:49:20.000Basically, Mr. Gray, Mr. Philip Graves is, goes to Turk, goes to the then Turkey Ottoman Empire.
00:49:27.000He's there and he meets this figure called Mr. X, who then gives him a book, a, he gives him a book, a book called The Dialogues in Hell.
00:49:43.000And he says it's the origin of the protocols and then Graves then, Graves then compares it to the protocols.
00:49:49.000And, oh, wow, I found, I found the source of this, of plagiarism.
00:49:52.000And then he publishes it in 1921, a series of very famous articles in the Times.
00:49:58.000But this is where it gets a little bit interesting.
00:50:03.000Well, Graves happens to be former British intelligence.
00:50:07.000Well, former in the loosest of the term, because at the time it was very common for British intelligence officers to be, to masquerade and run around the world as journalists.
00:50:16.000So the likelihood is that Graves, who had been sent, who had worked originally for the Arab Bureau.
00:50:21.000So that's the, the Arab Bureau of Ronald Storrs, who is famous for being the boss of Lawrence of Arabia, but also that Storrs was a, was a key figure in the Zion, the Gentile Zionist movement in Britain.
00:50:36.000And then he worked for, and Graves worked for him and then Graves was sent to Ireland as, as probably as a, probably actually as a British intelligence operative.
00:50:46.000And we have to remember that even in the Ireland, the British intelligence were using black propaganda to tram through their point.
00:50:52.000For example, they accused the IRA, the IRB and all those as being in the pay of, of like a Masonic or black magic or occult conspiracy in just one instance.
00:51:03.000Um, but the other thing that really pays into this is his, is, is the involvement.
00:51:08.000If you think about Ronald Storrs and the Arab Bureau and people like that, they are desperate to debunk the theory of the protocols.
00:51:16.000Because if the protocols are not debunked, that endangers the Balfour agreement.
00:51:22.000That's the agreement that creates Israel in the end.
00:51:25.000Without that, there is, there is, there will be, there will be no Balfour agreement.
00:51:29.000That will be completely gotten rid of because of what the protocols contain.
00:51:34.000Then the, the crimes of the Bolsheviks, of the Bolsheviks will be rightly blamed on Jews as they were being at the time.
00:51:40.000And then we get into a situation where Jews are at the mercy of a lot of people who are really upset with them because of this document.
00:51:47.000So they need a solution and they come up with it this way.
00:51:50.000But there's another, um, element to this in that it's more recently been, been discovered that, that Graves himself didn't actually find Mr. X.
00:52:00.000It was in fact, someone we all, we all know and love Alan Dulles, former head of the, later head of the CIA.
00:52:06.000Who happened to be in Turkey at the time.
00:52:10.000And we just happened to have found, um, there's Mr. X, whose real name actually was called Mikhail Rasovlev.
00:52:16.000Who claims to be an Antisemite and a right Russian.
00:53:07.000Um, it's not, it's not the work of Victor Marsden, who very conveniently died.
00:53:11.000It's just, it's probably just attributed to him.
00:53:14.000The truth then is likely that you're actually dealing with them just trying to find anything they can find.
00:53:20.000So you've got a trans, the translation issue is that if it's in, if the, if the protocols is a Russian translation, it's a, isn't, it's a translation from Russian into English.
00:53:33.000Then what is, uh, what is Graves comparing?
00:53:37.000Cause Graves doesn't say, if you read his original, he doesn't say what languages he just says, I try and I, he gives parallels.
00:53:43.000The parallels are in English, but not in the original language.
00:53:50.000Unlikely because Graves didn't speak Russian.
00:53:53.000So they had to have been French or English.
00:53:57.000Now, if they're in French, it means that the French, it means it's a Russian, it's a, it's a French translation of a German translation of, of a Russian original.
00:54:05.000If they're in English, they're an English translation of Russian original comparing that against Jolie.
00:54:11.000So if it's in Jolie, if it's, if it's a French translation of the protocols, it's, and it's a French version of Jolie, it's one-on-one.
00:54:18.000If it's a English translation of Jolie, then it's, and then it's, uh, two translations against each other, which is by any sound.
00:54:26.000If you know anything about translations, you never compare translations, one translation is another translation.
00:54:31.000And then say that they've, um, been that says plagiarism.
00:54:35.000It's like saying Goethe plagiarized Shakespeare because you translated shit because, um, when translated Goethe sound, Goethe sometimes sounds like Shakespeare.
00:54:43.000That doesn't make any sense, but that's the argument being used.
00:54:46.000But it gives you some idea, um, why, of just how ridiculous the actual claim is when you think about it, and it gets even more ridiculous as you kind of go through it.
00:54:54.000Which is that, so the most common argument they make is the, is this, is this plagiarism argument.
00:55:00.000That basically it's plagiarism of the protocols from Maurice Jolie and from Herman Goddash's writing under the pseudonym of John McCliff.
00:55:06.000Um, so much so that it features pretty much every book on the subject.
00:55:10.000And that's that everyone just assumes it's true.
00:55:12.000Kern reproduces quotation against quotation.
00:55:15.000But again, the translation issue isn't mentioned for obvious reasons.
00:55:18.000This thing is frequently held to be the most definitive.
00:55:20.000All the protocols are anti-protocols arguments in part because the origin of the protocols will always be speculative.
00:55:24.000Depending on the future discovery that kind of gives us a bit more.
00:55:27.000Um, now it's actually a selective misrepresentation in this case because, um, a large number of quotes that Kern identifies from the, are from the Nillis edition of 1905.
00:55:38.000They're not from the Christian edition of 1903.
00:55:39.000So he's not actually debunking the protocols at all.
00:55:41.000He's debunking, um, Nillis's claims in 1905.
00:55:44.000Um, Julie, as a, secondly, uh, the Julie claim is, is not, is the second, not the first plagiarism claim.
00:55:52.000In fact, that the first plagiarism claim is made about Herman Goddash's novel beer.
00:55:57.000This is probably where, uh, Philip Graves got the idea from to make this claim.
00:56:02.000Um, ironically, Philip Graves is, uh, editor at the time, Henry Wickham Steed, who was a believer in the authenticity of the protocols.
00:56:09.000It's kind of interesting that he would, uh, publish that, but nevertheless.
00:56:12.000Um, but the problem of the protocols argument just kind of shows how desperate they were to look and those things to invent arguments,
00:56:19.000which suggests that we need to be particularly careful of the plagiarism charge,
00:56:22.000precisely because it's highly politicized by Jews.
00:56:25.000Now, to give you some idea why, and those who are listening, um, of just how ridiculous the plagiarism thing is,
00:56:32.000this is just some of the books that have been claimed to have been plagiarized by the protocols, by academics, by writers since.
00:56:38.000That is, uh, we've got, we've got the, so we've got Jolies, um, Dialogues in Hell.
00:56:44.000We've got Godesh's Beerettes, but we've also got Eugene Sue's The Wandering Jew and The Mysteries of Paris.
00:56:50.000Alexander Dumas, the, Alexander Dumas, the Marquis de Sade.
00:56:54.000Houston Stuart Chamberlain's The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century and his The Jews.
00:56:59.000Edouard Drummond's Jewish France or La France Youth.
00:57:02.000Osman Bey's The Conquest of the World by Jews and the Talmud of the Jews.
00:57:17.000Which accounts for many of those readers, maybe we'll have heard of, but there's dozens of others.
00:57:22.000And basically the only text to be more or less used directly, rather paraphrased, is Herzl de Udenstad.
00:57:28.000Which again is not something you're properly told in the literature on the Protocols.
00:57:31.000So this can give us a very particular part of the whole anti-protocol, the whole plagiarism argument that we are being told by a multitude of authors on the Protocols that the author or authors of the Protocols sat down, plagiarized a large number of different contemporary and classic texts to create the Protocols, which then proves the Protocols to be a fraud.
00:57:48.000We should remind ourselves that once again, the number of borrowings and what is borrowed differs significantly between the Christian Renaissance of 1903 and the Renaissance of 1905.
00:57:56.000So to simplify the picture, the anti-protocols camp are painting for us, we have an anti-Semitic author who is allegedly trying to defame the Jews and or writing a satire about Zionism, who then decides the best way to achieve this is to paraphrase a large amount of material from multiple different works.
00:58:46.000I mean, it doesn't make any sense with this claim.
00:58:49.000We just end up in this case of what has been termed logical friddle sticks from the anti-protocols camp, and that their textual industry criticism has actually landed up when they're presenting not only a rather illogical series of events as logical, but actually showing up the fact that they are, for lack of a better term, being very stupid.
00:59:07.000The origin of this logical physics is really basically this kind of concept of a lot of, you've got, you've got a lot of, when you have a text, you often say similar things with similar ways.
00:59:32.000And the 20th Protocol is where it's allegedly comes and says, so Chabrie says, in English translation, the feudal lords, so the mirror text provided are these.
00:59:43.000Chabrie says, the feudal lords of international finance protect this monopoly of loans as a sword of Damocles suspended over the peoples.
00:59:51.000Now, it is clear that this isn't quite as close as we've taken out the interpolations just meaning, but in the 20th Protocol, the 20th Protocol, or sometimes the 19th, depending on who you read, says, the loans hang like a sword of Damocles over the head of the governed.
01:00:01.000This looks similar, doesn't it? Until we remove the interpolation as the meaning from Chabrie, and we get, if we remove the interpolation, it just says, the feudal lords of international finance protect this monopoly as a sword of Damocles suspended over the head over the peoples.
01:00:16.000Now, it is clear that this isn't quite as close as we've taken out the interpolations just meaning, which makes the translation look a lot closer in the original text than we actually do.
01:00:24.000But if we go through, we say, okay, we can note that there's no use reference to feudal lords and international finance in the Protocols.
01:00:31.000In addition, I would note that Chabrie uses the context of the peoples to mean the peoples of the world, which is markedly dissimilar from the idea of the governed,
01:00:42.000which is le guinze-gouvernes in French, as on the one hand.
01:00:48.000Chabrie, in the context of the 24-page pamphlet this is from, is telling us that international finance could use their loan capital monopoly to get rid of the problem.
01:00:56.000On the other hand, the Protocols is telling us that Lendales would use their loan capital to get rid of a problematic goyim.
01:01:02.000What is important here is the intent and usage of the concept, insofar as they're similar, but they're also, at the same time, markedly different.
01:01:10.000If we understand that this is this, then the plagiarism theory, and indeed, I suspect this was the means for the selling of the textual parallel, largely rest on the metaphor sort of Damocles.
01:01:20.000As otherwise, it's just normal enough French and Russian right-wing assertions for the time, burning the power of Mammon over the world, etc.
01:01:28.000Unfortunately, the anti-protocols camp is equally a common metaphor connected with the insecurity of tyrants, a metaphor that could equally come out of Thomas Hobbes, for example.
01:01:40.000To demonstrate this, we can just point out that JFK could, on the anti-protocols camp logic, be plagiarizing the protocols, or Shabri, when he expressed the idea that in one of his speeches that today, every inhabitant of this planet must contemplate when this planet may no longer be inhabitable.
01:01:56.000Every man, woman and child lives under a nuclear sword of Damocles, hanging by the slenders of threads, capable of being cut at any moment by the accident or miscalculation by madness.
01:02:05.000We can thus see that when the metaphor of the sword of Damocles is used, it's almost always expressed in a similar way to Shabri or the protocols.
01:02:12.000This then demonstrates that we are dealing with not plagiarism, we've been paraphrasing, but it's common convergence of language and literary reference point, i.e. parallel textual evolution.
01:02:21.000In addition to this, we can point out that if we actually know that the relevant part between this protocol in the 1920 English translation, which is the Marston, which is from 1905 and 1917,
01:02:32.000actually says, loans will hang like a sort of Damocles over the heads of the rulers who, instead of taking from their subjects, a temporary tax come begging with Astrid's palm for our bankers.
01:02:42.000Now, even if you assume that over the heads of the rulers is a later mistranslation, interpolation, or over the governed,
01:02:49.000it's very clear that passages are quite different and that they're only a misleading similarity in terms of the metaphor and subject.
01:02:56.000Now, that's a lot, that's a lot of me speaking and that's a lot of it is very technical.
01:03:02.000But essentially boils down to the fact that there's a very good case for the protocols being a Zionist document and being found in Ukraine, possibly to Kishinev.
01:03:13.000And there's, and there is no case, there is no case whatsoever that they, that they are, that they're a forgery by the Russian secret police.
01:03:29.000But yeah, there's nothing that disproves them.
01:03:32.000And the only other thing to say is that although we don't have that, we don't have an English translation of the original text.
01:03:37.000One is coming, but it will probably take about a month or two, I'd imagine.
01:03:42.000With that, I think I will end that and just open the floor up to questions or comments about the protocols or anything to do with the protocols, like tangentially,
01:03:51.000which is to do, for example, DNS DAPs like role in it because they had a role in the early protocols and that kind of thing.
01:04:51.000Um, so, so more or less somebody did, um, a freedom of information act request on the protocols of learned elder Zion.
01:05:00.000Um, and it looks like there, I'm just scrolling through this right now that there's countless and countless letters written to J Edgar Hoover on this subject in particular.
01:05:25.000I wasn't aware that the FBI had actually done nothing with them.
01:05:27.000Um, but my guess is that the FBI would be getting what they would, they would come to a conclusion somewhat similar to what.
01:05:34.000What came to, um, probably because the information at that time wasn't very good.
01:05:41.000Um, unless you were French, if you read French and you went back to, uh, you would actually know a lot more, but, uh, not many people in the FBI, to my knowledge, read French particularly well, nor were very interested in it.
01:05:59.000Um, yeah, so it seems like just skimming through this, that a lot of this gained somewhat of popularity because of news publishings on it in the United States.
01:06:11.000Um, and people, uh, churches actually reaching out to the FBI saying like, Hey, have you heard about this before?
01:06:22.000My congregation is, is reading about this and talking about this.
01:06:27.000I see one document in particularly that's from the church of Christ written directly to, um, Edgar J. Hoover, um, more or less asking for a few moments of his time about a Jewish conspiracy manipulating the communist plot via the protocols of the learned elder Zion.
01:06:50.000So you, you, you, you led me down a rabbit hole.
01:06:55.000I was just wondering if, if you had any idea on, on the FBI's conclusion, but like you said, I'm pretty sure that their conclusion is very similar to this.
01:07:08.000This hilarious investigation in regards to debunking it, um, that they probably came up with the same thing because, you know, tiny hat people do tiny hat things.
01:07:22.000And a kind of related point is, um, Henry Ford, a big belief in the protocols, but also it stirred a very, then very famous anti-communist author called John Spargo, uh, to write a book called the Jew and American ideals, where he was trying to defend the, he was trying to defend the Jewish community from, uh, both the protocols, but also the, um, from, also from the protocols from, from Henry Ford.
01:07:47.000And also from the charges of Judeo Bolshevism.
01:07:50.000So, um, he wrote an entire book about it.
01:07:53.000And he, ironically, because it's Spargo, it's, it kind of shows what, what was going on that he'd be basically been paid by a bunch of wealthy Jews to write this book because he was very famous anti-communist author at the time.
01:08:07.000Um, and he was trying to debunk it and he couldn't, he couldn't offer anything without he, all he did was use, um, was use graves.
01:08:17.000So the point is, is that if you, if you're just using graves and you're using, I think he used Wolf as well, Lucian Wolf's, um, the myth of, the, the, the myth of the Jewish menace or something, which from 1919.
01:08:29.000That you're, you're, they're using the same sources, but because they're not, but because people now don't know what they're looking at, it's kind of hard for a lot of people to understand.
01:08:38.000Um, because the post 1933, um, 35 narrative is so prevalent because of Cone's, um, warrant for genocide, even though it's already covered.
01:08:51.000That's a plagiarism and it's based upon, um, and it's plagiarism Boris Nikolaevsky's work and it's fundamentally, it's just not accurate.
01:09:08.000Because this would almost certainly happened in the fifties and sixties, given the context.
01:09:12.000Um, thus my guess is that you were, is that because there was a resurgence of the radical right.
01:09:18.000And particularly with relation to the concept of Judeo Bolshevism, because of the amount of spies, uh, to be spies who were discovered to be Jews.
01:09:26.000Um, it's something like, I don't know, like 90% of them were something with Jews to give you some idea.
01:09:33.000Um, it kind of gives you an idea for just, you know, why all this stuff would, we keep, would suddenly reappear, so to speak.
01:09:43.000So, um, I'll say this, or well, I'll ask this when we're using the protocols of the elders of Zion as a talking point and trying to correlate it towards modern events now, and we're faced with pushback by any given person, right?
01:10:23.000I know you just gave like a very detailed lecture in regards to obviously their efforts of debunking it required jumping through multiple hoops and drawing conclusions where literally there is none.
01:10:39.000Um, but I guess I'm wondering like how, as can we, as national socialists and white nationalists, um, generate a credible argument that yes, this is real without a shadow of the doubt.
01:10:54.000Um, and the investigation done into it was essentially a sham trial.
01:11:01.000Well, that's the, the easiest argument to the easiest point to say is which, so, so which, which, which, which, so, so which, um, languages are you comparing it to this simplest argument to make?
01:11:13.000And usually they'll say what, because they don't know the first thing that we're talking about because they don't know because it's a big thing, but immediately puts them on the fence and say, well, what languages?
01:11:24.000Well, because Philip Graves compares them in English, but it can't be in English because if, if it isn't English, it's a translation.
01:11:32.000It's two trans it's comparing two translations together.
01:11:34.000And that's how you get them straight away because they're gone.
01:11:39.000Um, but then they say, okay, obviously next would be white would be, uh, what about, is that, uh, by the Paris of Corona?
01:11:45.000Well, we just say, no, the academics have debunked this and you can just quote the, uh, Rudd and step up of the Rudd and I think you're stepping off, um, quote, which says point blanks that this is complete nonsense.
01:11:56.000And you can also, um, quote, uh, Michael Hagermeister, um, and his long discussion around Cohen and his, his work for genocide about what that actually is.
01:12:09.000And how it was basically a, uh, it's a mess that it's essentially what he's saying is that Cohen plagiarized it.
01:12:17.000And that, uh, he didn't do any original research and he, and he deliberately altered the research to make it fit a particular conclusion.
01:12:25.000And then you just point out, oh, by the way, did you know that this particular argument is literally, is just a legal argument.
01:13:05.000And all of a sudden, any intellectually honest person is going to, is going to have trouble with that because I've dealt with the protocols enough now to know that when someone is confronted with that, there isn't, there isn't a counter argument.
01:13:21.000That we, what, I mean, what do you say?
01:13:23.000You say, oh yeah, I can debunk this by this, but oh, they're not true.
01:13:32.000You end up it's, it's a negative argument to make, but it's, it's basically what we're doing is returning the Holocaust, uh, industry's own arguments against itself by saying, well, you know, this says this, you have nothing to debunk it.
01:14:48.000And yet there's been a whole, like, I think I've read two or three pages and four pages, page segments on this particular passage, trying to analyze the psychoanalytical meaning.
01:15:00.000And how I actually might think and how they're crazy.
01:15:03.000It's like, well, no, you just, it was a mistranslation.
01:15:09.000It's a good example of when you go back to the source, you know, sources of things, and you, then you call into question some of the bases and you look at some of the research.
01:15:20.000And when you find out the odd things and you start poking, then the other side doesn't have a response.
01:15:25.000It's a bit like on the Holocaust when you ask, when you ask them absurd questions, questions about, well, okay, are you claiming that they killed 2 million people in 1.1, in one and a half years using 2D's lentions and electric floor?
01:15:46.000And I'm not even including the, burying all the bodies and digging them up again, then burning them.
01:15:50.000And then we can't find any trace of them.
01:15:51.000And you know, that's still that lovely stuff.
01:15:54.000But that's the, that's the easiest way to debunk a lot of things is to boil it down to its essence, boil the argument down to its essence, and then say, well, this is what you're arguing.
01:16:06.000And force them to try and justify it and watch them try and watch them kind of jump around and try and, because then they're on the back foot.
01:16:14.000It's like when, it's like when we debate judo Bolshevism, we, we bring out the, the numbers of the NKV generals in the thirties.
01:18:01.000So I got a couple other questions for you.
01:18:04.000I did put some things in the bubble for the listeners.
01:18:07.000I put the FBI documents up there in the bubble and then I found an archive, internet archive page on the protocols as well.
01:18:20.000And my first question in regards to what I put up in the eagles nest up above is that it is the protocols of the learned elder Zion and it's translated by Victor E. Marsden.
01:19:14.000And I think you know where I'm going to lead with this, but Henry Ford and his obsession with, you know, outing the Jewish problem to the average everyday American.
01:19:29.000Do you, can you, I guess, I guess the question is, is, can you go a little bit into autistic detail about Henry Ford and his journey with uncovering the Jewish question?
01:19:41.000So Henry Ford and his friend, Thomas Edison, who you probably know, were both fervent anti-semites.
01:19:50.000Both of them had a lot of experience dealing with Jews in their lives, particularly Ford had problems with the Jewish competitors, Jewish merchants, whatever.
01:20:02.000But really, it begins with a lot of Ford's, Ford's interactions with Jewish politicians during the war.
01:20:12.000It's with Jewish pressure groups during the war.
01:20:15.000So those who don't know, Ford was very much pro-peace in World War One.
01:20:20.000He didn't want to, he didn't want to war.
01:20:22.000And he was often, often fought against by Jews who wants to war.
01:20:27.000They want to war with Russia, usually, because Russia was the principal enemy for most of Jewry at this time.
01:20:34.000So they, they were, they celebrate an awful lot when it all went, went, went, went sideways in Russia, when the February revolution happened, and then the November revolution happened, aka red October.
01:20:46.000And then you have a situation where Ford is looking around and he can't make sense of the world because the Bolshevik revolution has happened.
01:20:56.000You've got, you've got plots going off across all of Europe.
01:20:59.000You've got the United States, you've, it's often forgotten, you've got bombings tied back into your FBI point.
01:21:05.000At this point, you have, you've got the industrial workers of the world bombing things.
01:21:09.000You've got proto-communist sex coming up.
01:21:11.000You've got the, the creation of the Jewish dominated Communist Party USA occurring around this time.
01:21:18.000So Ford contracts with basically a, he buys this, he, he gets to see the world as a problem and he wants to understand it.
01:21:28.000So he begins reading and he gets people to talk to him.
01:21:31.000And one of the people he gets involved with is someone called Boris, Boris Brazel.
01:21:37.000Now he's a Russian emigre, a Russian nationalist, has a lot of interesting views on Russia, also on, on Russia and its Russians, Russia and this, and the centrality of Russia to the world.
01:21:48.000But Brazel is at this point, a leading, he's a leading writer on communism.
01:21:57.000He writes a series of books like, so the balance sheet of Sovietism, the world of the crossroads, things like that.
01:22:03.000And Ford, Ford has him, hasn't, and so he's, he, he, he, he begins to talk to Brazel and people like him.
01:22:10.000And people, and, and a man called William Cameron, who was also a early member of, I think it was British Israelitism at the time, but were changed into Christian Israelitism.
01:22:37.000And one of the things that Ford found particularly useful was the protocols, because to him, he said, he explained what was going on.
01:22:44.000He explained why so many Jews weren't, were in the Bolshevik revolution.
01:22:48.000Why the Bolshevik revolution attempted, but communist revolutions in Europe and the United States had so many Jews involved in them.
01:22:55.000But also he explained Jewish behavior in other things that he had encountered things like, for example, like the lack of Jews who lack of Jews who wants to do manual work.
01:23:07.000The, you know, the way Jews tend to cheat people.
01:23:11.000And then these writings, which are not Ford, which are actually by William Cameron.
01:23:15.000That kind of a done for Ford in the Dearborn Independent, come what we now call the International Jew, because that's what they were published up as that.
01:23:24.000And the Jews panicked because this was exactly what they were worried about with the protocols.
01:23:30.000The protocols were beginning to get people on side who, people who mattered, if you want to call them that, the elite.
01:23:37.000And the thing about that is that historically, if you read, for example, Benjamin Ginsberg's The Fatal Embrace, he talks about this where Jews historically have gotten, they get, they come into power as kind of a middle class element.
01:24:31.000They do everything they can to go after him, including trying to, they go after his, for example, his Fordlandia, his, his attempts to grow rubber in the, in South America.
01:25:00.000They get, they, they, they start causing him problems.
01:25:04.000They, and they begin basically running a PR campaign against him.
01:25:08.000And eventually a bunch of Jews, um, basically go to, go to Ford and say, I think, I can't remember the name, which ones it was, which ones it was.
01:25:16.000It might've been Bernard Baruch actually, who went to Ford and said, you need, if you don't sign this, we are going, we're going to bankrupt you basically.
01:25:26.000And Ford at this point is already tired of, he's tired of this fight because he's getting attacked left, right and center.
01:25:33.000He's getting, he's getting his business attacked.
01:26:33.000And then Ford closes up the Dibble Independent and basically doesn't talk about it over much.
01:26:38.000But then what he does is Ford allows for the international Jews to be republished in German,
01:26:43.000which in turn is causes and causes Hitler to believe, to, to basically say that it's completely correct.
01:26:50.000It's, it's, it says one of the works in early on inspired him to continue to fight after the war, after I think it was Landsberg,
01:26:59.000after the, um, putsch and his imprisonment in Landsberg.
01:27:02.000And, uh, Ford then is awarded, I think in 1938, uh, a medal by the Thedric for his services to, uh, civilization.
01:27:12.000And, um, yeah, so basically they, they, they, they're fighting this whole time.
01:27:16.000And, um, Ford is not, he's an interesting character because he's, uh, he's primarily pro-business.
01:27:21.000He's not, I wouldn't say he's the most political of people.
01:27:25.000In that he, Ford is ironically evolved in making the Soviet Union industrialization, industrializations possible.
01:27:35.000Because basically he basically, he bought in a, bought a load of Ford engineers and Ford equipment and manufacturing tools over from the U.S.
01:28:46.000He helped Charles Lindbergh, people like that to try and keep peace with Germany.
01:28:50.000But was unfortunately again, outflanked by the Jews in power in the FDR's reign.
01:28:56.000If that explains a bit more about Henry Ford and everything to do with that.
01:29:01.000And that John Sparger book that I mentioned earlier, the Jew and the Jew and his, and America, the American ideals and the Jew.
01:29:10.000From 1921 is actually a part of that campaign against Ford.
01:29:14.000So it attacks the protocols, it attacks the idea of Judah Bolshevism.
01:29:18.000And it's generally, um, it's trying to portray his Jews as, you know, this one, this wonderful model minority that we, that we all know and love.
01:29:32.000Um, I probably should have asked this question first, but I'm going to go back to the protocols.
01:29:38.000Is it safe to say at the very least in your best judgment that the protocols came out of Ukraine?
01:29:48.000Yes, they had to have, they had to come out of Ukraine.
01:29:52.000They, they, they either came out of the Ukraine or they came out of the, the, all they were, all they were written by someone out of the Ukraine.
01:30:03.000And that's why I mentioned about the Odessa and Kishinev being key points because they occur at the same time as the protocols occur.
01:30:11.000And then we've got this, um, uh, the, this, the Pan-Russian, the Pan-Russian Zionist conference at Minsk around the same time as well.
01:30:19.000So you've got a lot of, there's a lot of information there that is, it's hard to, shall we say it's, it's hard to, it's hard to address that from any perspective other than say, well, they've got to have something to do with Zionism because it's a quote.
01:30:34.000If they quote the, if they quote the hurt that you wouldn't stat directly, they, and they come from a, they come from a place in the period of very high Zionist activity.
01:30:43.000When they have a link into Zionism into, into, into, into, and we have a plausible story of how they could have got to Pavel Koshivan, um, via the Kishinev and things in the Gommel pogrom and things like that.
01:30:58.000Then we know that there is, there is that possibility of involvement.
01:31:03.000So to me, they are the ones who need to show that they're not, they're nothing to do with them.
01:31:09.000But at the same time, they're not, I don't think they're a, they're a plot of Jewish elders in per se.
01:31:15.000I think they are a Zionist political program, which has then gotten trans, kind of edited, edited and made into something it not, it wasn't supposed to be.
01:31:25.000But basically you can, you can read it as like, this is, this is how Jews actually view you.
01:31:29.000This is how Jews actually view the world in terms of sheer power politics.
01:31:33.000And just say, well, you know, this is, this is a plan.
01:31:38.000And, you know, and the, the evidence says that they come, they come from the Ukraine, they come from, they come from something to do with Zionism.
01:31:45.000And they don't come from, they don't come, they're not an anti-Semitic, they're not an anti-Semitic fabrication, because the evidence, again, the evidence is against that.
01:31:52.000So that is as simple as you need to make it to me.
01:34:41.000It was a quote unquote, it was a loan that was not supposed to be repaid, was how it was, is how it's phrased.
01:34:49.000And so we have a situation where we've got a bribed witness, and that witness might be a Soviet asset.
01:34:56.000He might not be, but he might be still.
01:34:59.000And we have got at least one other so-known Soviet asset, the Shaila, involved in trying to debunk them.
01:35:06.000We've also got massive Soviet involvement in the burn trial via Alexander Targa and people like that in the Soviet archives.
01:35:14.000So essentially, we've got a situation where Jews in the Soviet Union and the Zionist movement in the UK and US are both, they were kind of keen to get rid of this problem, because this problem is actually causing them problems now, because it's motivating the Bolshevik.
01:35:30.000Because remember, Russia is still in the middle of the Russian civil war at this time. It's motivating the right wing support in Russia.
01:35:39.000It's blocking the Balfour agreement, and it's potentially destabilizing Jewish power in America, as well as the American government, because of the involvement of Jews and of American Jews in Bolshevism, but also the involvement of American Zionism in Palestine.
01:35:58.000And you've also got things to do with that coming out at this time, such as you've got massive labor problems in the US that are heavily, again, linked back to Jews that are, for example, the CPUSA.
01:36:10.000Again, there's a bunch of Jews involved in that. And none of this was debated at the time.
01:36:15.000This is also the time of what they call the raid at Brinkman, where they, sorry, the raid at Bridgman, where they basically, where the, what becomes the FBI raids a, basically a CPUSA conference, and they find all this kind of material and they begin publishing it.
01:36:36.000It's published as, I can't remember, I can't remember the name of the book, but it was re, it was republished in the seventies by the John Berks Society.
01:36:44.000And basically it's anti-religious propaganda. It's anti, you know, it's got this, there's sometimes they call them the anti-humans and it's kind of that kind of stuff.
01:36:52.000It just, it's a publisher of everything that they found at the Bridgman raid. And then Hoover then comes head of the FBI.
01:37:01.000Hoover then, Hoover then takes this entity and then he begins to go, he runs with it, but he doesn't, he doesn't run with the protocols. He runs with, he realizes the reality due to Bolshevism and he goes after the Bolshevik party yet.
01:37:15.000And then he's left with his egg on his face in 41, because all of a sudden he's gone after the left and it's Jews and the Jews and the left.
01:37:24.000And then, and because with it, with the American entry of America into war, he has no files on the right.
01:37:30.000So who does he go to for those files? The Anti-Defamation League.
01:37:33.000And that's the beginning of when they begins to cooperate, for lack of a better term.
01:38:03.000I can't imagine the amount of reading that you've done to come to the conclusions that you have in regards to this and, you know, creating this intricate web, because that's really what it is.
01:38:16.000It's a very intricate web where if you follow the proper breadcrumbs, you do the right readings.
01:38:23.000It solidifies kind of like what our hearts have known all along, or at least if you've gotten to this point and you're in this space.
01:38:32.000And we know the hidden hand this entire time, at the very least in the 1900s up until now, has been this psychopathic, sociopathic Jewish power structure injecting its tendrils into every single aspect of our society.
01:38:53.000So, yeah, I'm just, I'm flipping through the pages right now of the protocols, and it's, it's very detailed.
01:39:02.000And there's one word that comes into mind from my research in regards to, you know, Jews, and that's tikkun olam.
01:39:12.000This goes into perfect place in their psychopathic way of, you know, making the world a better place, right?
01:39:21.000I'm just reading a couple of, one of them in the first articles is, we shall end liberty, like how psychopathic it is.
01:39:31.000But when you get into it, it gets into establishing equality and all of this other things that are antithetical towards natural law.
01:39:42.000I know I'm kind of just ranting right now, and I don't have a question for you.
01:39:47.000But then I flipped the page to protocol three in it, in bold letters, it says we support communism.
01:39:54.000So, lots of details here, and I'll just tell this, if you guys haven't read the protocols, like myself, I would say, you know, bookmark up in the nest.
01:40:06.000It's, it's there for you from archive.org, read into it and try to correlate some of these protocols with what's happening in our everyday lives.
01:40:17.000And I think it would shock you at first, and then anger you as you continue to read it, because I know it does for me.
01:40:27.000So yeah, I think it's one of those things where it comes back to what Ford said, that fundamentally it, it's something that it tells you what's happening.
01:40:38.000It tells you what to expect, for lack of a bit of a statement.
01:40:42.000It's pretty, it's actually predictive, which is quite scary in its way.
01:40:46.000I think people today that people because of the debunk of them, the claims of claims about them.
01:40:55.000It's just a lot of people have a lot of misconceptions about what the protocols really are and the research that's been done on them, which has been quite extensive.
01:41:02.000But it's been very, I would say very specific and very selective in that there's a, there's a lot more scholars who believe protocols are real, or at least somewhat real than you would think.
01:41:16.000than if you've read the conventional narrative.
01:41:18.000There's a whole bunch of Russian ones, for example, who actually believe the protocols are quite real based upon their own research on, into the protocols.
01:41:26.000So it just tells you that there isn't, it isn't, it's like you're, you kind of, this is what Chomsky called manufactured consent.
01:41:34.000They can, they're manufacturing a consensus for you saying the protocols, the protocols aren't real.
01:41:38.000Everyone believes this, and this is the truth.
01:41:40.000And, but the reality is that's not what the literature, literature indicates, literature indicates quite the opposite.
01:41:46.000But only, but if you, but if you just read, you know, David Aronovich's whatever, I can't remember what his name is called.
01:41:53.000And basically about, it's about conspiracy theories.
01:41:56.000And he has a chapter on this, but basically all he does is recite Kern.
01:41:59.000And you read Kern's Weren't for Genocide, and, or maybe a couple other things.
01:42:03.000You would just, you would come away with a completely wrong perception of the literature on the protocols.
01:42:09.000They, they completely manipulate it to sound like something that's not.
01:42:14.000When that's what I'd say to a lot of people is don't take juice at face value.
01:42:21.000If you read around a bit, you'll often find hints from other people about, oh, so this will, someone like Burtsev says this.
01:42:28.000And you'd be like, oh, okay, well, why do, why does he say that?
01:42:32.000Why does he just, why does he disagree?
01:42:35.000Then it forces, it forces you down a rabbit hole.
01:42:38.000So it kind of, that's where, that's where I kind of go with it.
01:42:41.000I just, I've posted my monograph on the protocols for those people who want to read it.
01:42:46.000It's about 70, 70, 80 pages worth of work, but it's there for you if you want to read all the points, but there's also a very simple debunk of the standard protocols arguments.
01:43:32.000And I think something that struck out to me is number nine within protocol number five, where it says, we shall assume to ourselves the liberal physiognomy of all parties of all directions.
01:43:49.000And we shall give that physiognomy of voice and orators who will speak so much that they will exhaust the patience of their hearers and produce an aberrance of oratory.
01:44:02.000And then we reflect on Donald Trump right in his campaign and the whole fake news.
01:44:12.000And this is all just a part of the plan.
01:44:14.000Make everybody so exhausted with the lies that they've been ingesting on a daily basis that they've been trying to force feed down our throat that we just don't want to hear it anymore.
01:44:25.000So we don't turn into the news because we know the news is all lies.
01:44:30.000And whoever does turn into the news is gobbling up the lies, sowing division, discord, a false sense of reality.
01:44:41.000Yeah, I'm just, you know, skimming through this right now, and I'm just jaws kind of on the floor, Carl.
01:44:50.000Yeah, it's quite interesting, isn't it, that you get into the stuff and you realize how potent.
01:44:57.000A lot of it really is and how you can you can kind of understand where people like like, for example, the imperial fascist Lee fascist League leader on lease.
01:45:07.000He was converted to the anti-semitic cause by reading the protocols.
01:45:12.000He said, you know, I read I picked up this I picked up this small book from that was the Britain Publishing Society of HHB mesh.
01:46:14.000He thought they weren't as he thought they were effective propaganda.
01:46:17.000But he, you know, it's not something he was going to hang his hat on just in case.
01:46:21.000So it gives you some idea of how much how much these people have really impacted people in a way that is just is quite profound, really, that they have impacted people.
01:46:35.000They've they've kind of showed people the truth without even even if even if they were completely made up.
01:46:42.000The impact they have had is huge beyond the computer kind of most people would have would ever think of a book that would have this much impact.
01:46:53.000I mean, I can't think of many books that have had that kind of impact.
01:46:57.000In fact, they're probably one of the best sellers of all time.
01:46:59.000If I say that because they're so they're so impactful that the Saudi the the Prince of Saudi Arabia was handing them out to ambassadors and to diplomats in the 80s.
01:47:11.000And it was notorious that if you went to Saudi Arabia, you would get copies of protocols of Zion.
01:47:17.000So, yeah, it's kind of one of those things that most people don't know, but it's again there again their book that it's a book which you have to understand what it is.
01:47:27.000You're best not over egging it and looking out for what seeing it as some like overarching conspiracy, but at the same time, it is very much a book that has explanatory power.
01:47:40.000It can be located in Zionism and it should be located in Zionism.
01:47:45.000But fundamentally, it is a plan and is a plan that is clearly conversant with what we're seeing today.
01:47:57.000So maybe read it with read it with a touch of skepticism that you know, but also with a mind to what am I what am I seeing in the world was the protocols tell me what the protocol say is going to happen.
01:48:09.000Are is is what what's next, so to speak, if that makes any sense.
01:48:20.000Again, I'm I'm flipping through these pages, reading some of the bold that's sticking out and.
01:48:29.000I'm kind of mad, if I could be completely honest with you, because this is an it like it's.
01:48:38.000It's a document explained in autistic detail on how they're going to capture our homelands, turn us against each other, destroy our morals, destroy our culture, destroy our religions.
01:48:51.000And essentially rule in secrecy while we're lied to.
01:49:17.000I would tell you to get yourself familiar with this, because when it comes to our talking points, you know, a lot of us tend to go to the easy ones because we have documentaries like Europa, the last battle.
01:49:32.000And I know Carl has certain issues with the beginning parts of Europa, the last battle and how it needs to be revised.
01:49:41.000But if you get yourself familiar with this, it'll get you in the mind of these.
01:49:59.000If we can use the writings in here to formulate our arguments against them more so than just my Holocaust, my six million, it could be more educated and a potential.
01:50:23.000It will formulate your argument in a more educated manner, and it's, in my opinion, great source material as to to why none of us should like these people.
01:50:35.000What I'd also do, what I'd also do, why is I'd encourage people to read.
01:50:41.000There's a novel by Benjamin Disraeli called Conigsby.
01:50:45.000Now I'd actually encourage you all to read that.
01:50:48.000Now, the reason why is because he's, you, you think about the protocols and it's one of those potential sources of the protocols that's claimed.
01:50:54.000So the plagiarisms, but Conigsby covers how Jews do power.
01:50:59.000And remember Disraeli wasn't some random chap.
01:51:03.000He was actually a, he was actually a long time prime minister of the British Empire at its height.
01:51:09.000And he laid the power for British power, British, sorry, British, Jewish power in the British Empire to my large degree.
01:51:15.000So it gives you some idea of how the protocols are formulated and how there is a certain, shall we say, congruence between Conigsby, his novel Conigsby, and the protocols.
01:51:35.000And they, and Disraeli himself was, was that, was that person.
01:51:39.000He was a, he was a powerful Jew in the British Empire and he laid the foundation for it.
01:51:44.000So it gives you, it gives you a very good argument there about why the protocols are relevant, but also, but the fact that they managed to explain much of what was happening at the time as well as even today.
01:51:57.000I mean, they have expanded your power a hundred years after they were written a hundred years.
01:52:02.000That's a lot by any standard to actually have a relevance.
01:52:08.000It's something that if you want to include introduce your arsenal, because you will come up against the protocols at some point, if you have debates with Jews or whether they will at some point accuse you about the protocols.
01:52:19.000I'll say, you believe in the protocols, you do this, you do that.
01:52:21.000And you can just say, well, okay, what about the protocols?
01:52:24.000And then you have got a very simple, very simple in to make your audience that much more educated to say, well, okay, well, I've been told that the protocols is all wrong.
01:52:35.000If someone is lying in their book and scholars had scholars, scholars now know this, then, you know, what is it?
01:52:43.000Because I remember Hagemaster is great because he doesn't include his main text, but if you read his footnotes, he actually comments on a lot of the major books on to do with this.
01:52:54.000And he accuses someone like, it was Steven Eric Broner, who's a Jewish academic historian.
01:53:00.000He basically says, I'm not sure Broner has actually read the protocols, certainly not in English, because all his claims don't actually occur in the protocols text or something of that order.
01:53:11.000So you get to this kind of thing of, if he's actually making fun of all these quote unquote experts on the protocols, because Hagemaster is one of two major authors on the protocols of recent years.
01:53:22.000And it's quite funny, just listening to watching academics get absolutely trolled for being idiots and not actually doing any basic research.
01:53:32.000So yeah, it's kind of, I just say, use it for what it is, read it for what it is, but also add some depth to it.
01:53:43.000Read Koenigsby, and just look at it and then say, well, is this what we're dealing with?
01:53:51.000And the answer is yes. That's why we know the protocols are probably somewhat true, at least somewhat true, because look around you.
01:53:59.000And then if they're that predictive, then there's something to them.
01:57:06.000There were bits of it that were religious, but not many.
01:57:09.000Still, to a large extent, the religious side of it is where you get the opposition to it.
01:57:13.000But fundamentally, that's the truth of it, is that they are fundamentally, it's fundamentally a marriage of the two to create this kind of image of the future.
01:57:25.000And it's this idea of creating a Jewish state and Jewish run state as they conceive it in the modern world and the all then world.
01:57:37.000That is just, it's based on Judaism, but it doesn't require Judaism, if you understand me.
01:57:50.000It was about the Jewish people and the Jewish people's rule.
01:57:53.000And the idea that if you read Herzl and you read Hess, that basically a Jewish state would become the superpower of the world.
01:58:00.000That's probably something they don't tell you when you talk about Zionism, is that if you read Hess and you read Herzl, they both have this idea that a Jewish state will become the biggest superpower in the world and basically rule it.
01:58:16.000Yeah, and I mean, looking at these protocols, it seems to be their points of interest in regards to how they achieve that.
01:58:27.000I'm looking at protocol number 10 right now.
01:58:30.000And, you know, I'm really glad that the author decided to put things in bold, because if it was all just plain text, it probably wouldn't stick out to you as much as it should.
01:58:43.000But there was something in particular that and number 10 that I was looking at.
01:59:22.000Later along the lines in between number 10 and 11, it says we name the presidents.
01:59:28.000So everything that we have come to know and understand as far as the propaganda that we've ingested, the memes that we've ingested, the arguments that we've heard is is all along the lines with the protocols.
01:59:43.000And I can't stress this enough, guys, but take some time to at the very least breeze through this because you're going to be just as shocked as I am right now as you do.
01:59:56.000You know, other bold talking points that are that are coming out.
02:01:21.000Carl Rottle will be here hosting his own show every Monday and Friday.
02:01:28.000So if you want to be there, if you want to get some juicy, juicy, juicy info with Carl and ask him some questions, that is the time that you want to do it.
02:01:38.000Um, Carl, do you do you have any closing statements?
02:01:42.000Do you want to tell us what you're going to present for us on Friday?
02:01:53.000Um, but it's probably going to be, I'm probably going to talk about the, um, about the problem of Judeo Bolshevism.
02:01:59.000So the problem of, uh, Jews and communism and how we know what we know as well as what the objections are to the concept of Judeo Bolshevism as well as some of the surprising connections between things like, for example,
02:02:12.000Fidel Castro probably was probably Jewish and things like that.
02:02:16.000So I was going to, I'm probably going to talk about that and then just kind of give you some detail about how to understand this and also how to argue it and also have to deal with the common objections to it.
02:02:28.000I think it's what I'm going to do next time.
02:02:45.000So come prepared Friday, get a notepad if you have to, in order to write those questions down and come up and participate.
02:02:52.000Um, let's make Carl feel welcome and, uh, make him see that all of the efforts that he's put into learning these things is, uh, for a reason, because we need big brains like Carl leading the way.
02:03:07.000And, um, outing world Jewry and helping us observe our current status in the world and, uh, making sure we, we win this, this war eventually sooner than later. Right.
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02:10:54.740Well, you know, I have a theory that the whole masking thing was, it was a double-edged sword because it also paved the way for devious behavior, right?
02:11:09.480What do you mean, like, COVID shit, COVID masks, yeah.
02:11:14.240Yeah, yeah, because it set precedent for people to be able to wear masks in public for whatever reason they want, whenever they want.
02:11:21.800And, obviously, we know when people are given any reason to wear a mask, especially bad people that have darker skin shades than white, then they're going to do it because they're always up to no good.
02:11:34.260So, it set a very bad precedent, and I don't know if there's any coming back without some type of lawful edict or order to rally, well, to rein that back in is the word that I'm looking for.
02:11:51.800Yeah, yeah, they're always, like, especially around the West Coast, they're doing that all the time.
02:11:56.300But I want to echo the sentiment from Rev here in regards to the first space, the fireside chats, the oven side chats.
02:18:23.320Because if he was to die from that current, right, the current would have had to continue going, which would have mean the power would have had to stay on, which means his router would have still been connected as well as his computer and his webcam.
02:18:35.560And we would have seen him light up like a fucking Christmas tree.
02:18:39.120But for the fact that as soon as the spark gap happened, right, and fucking everything shut off, router, camera, computer, we only have to believe that he gave himself a good shock, maybe burned his hand, fucking felt stupid.
02:18:54.520But, yeah, he's probably going to be there on only in a week with a bandaged hand looking for Cookie Monster.
02:19:12.580And, you know, for anyone who's wondering, I posted the video up above in the nest there if you want to give out this one.
02:19:18.560He's going to come back like Ernest goes to jail and starts shooting lightning bolts at fucking White Paladin from wherever he is in Canada.
02:19:27.420They're going to arc over the fucking entire country and then zap Cookie Monster right where he stands.
02:19:33.920So, I swear to God, I've seen it in an 80s movie.
02:20:42.140Like, you don't need a whole entire compendium of really in-depth stuff.
02:20:46.540A lot of people are going to have, like, you can find narratives to break down for a lot of normies.
02:20:53.060I think JFK, 9-11, the Bretton Woods Agreement, the Federal Reserve works really well.
02:21:00.200I know if you're on Facebook, you're probably dealing with, like, North Americans and, you know, United States and Canadians and such.
02:21:07.340So, there are some good things if you're a Canadian, you know, to focus on that are part of your country's history.
02:21:13.180But one of the things that I noticed specifically, I think, is that people really, in the modern age, people really latch on to the feeling that someone cares.
02:21:26.980And as they're white people, so we do care.
02:21:30.840And I've noticed that it's very effective to find people who have legitimate grievances or are dealing with something, and they are not intellectually equipped with – they're experiencing the cognitive dissonance.
02:21:48.980They're seeing the split between the mainstream Zog narrative and what they're actually seeing before their eyes.
02:21:56.540And many times, like, the approach of actually engaging with them on a human level and saying, like, you know, look, my friend, like, figure out – kind of do, like, a psychological profile on them, depending on who you're talking to.
02:22:12.520If they're an older white guy from a rural area, then take that into consideration as a how you approach these subjects.
02:22:21.360Say, you know, have you seen more Jeets appearing in your neighborhood?
02:22:27.400And start, you know, crafting these things based on their psychological profile.
02:22:31.920And in many cases for Facebook – this is before I got banned because I got totally banned off Facebook.
02:22:36.720But in many cases on Facebook, it was – I found it much more effective to specifically address individuals and go into these longer kind of dialogues with individuals where instead of, like, engaging in comment section arguments or posting memes or, you know, red pill flyers or something like that,
02:22:58.760you can actually go into these places and you can find, like, a couple individuals in these comment sections who are – they're on the fence or they're starting to ask questions.
02:23:07.720And these people are primed to make that transition from asking questions and being curious and feeling like nobody cares, wondering why we have to live on piss planet with all these nons.
02:23:21.320And you can nudge them into basically doing their own research and, like, set them on the right course.
02:23:29.480And I've noticed that on Facebook and some of the more intimate social platforms where people want to feel like they're connecting and they're talking to a real-life human being who is – name they know or who they can see in a profile picture.
02:23:42.600If you can establish that connection and then you can say to them, like, look, you're not alone.
02:23:47.740There are a lot of people in your community who are asking these questions.
02:23:50.520There are a lot of people in these – in our nations who are asking these questions.
02:23:55.120And you have to be willing – you can get them up to the edge of basically red-pilling themselves because so many of us – like, I know a couple of older gentlemen,
02:24:06.100older white gentlemen who – they red-pilled themselves eventually, like, we're kind of a stubborn folk, you know.
02:24:15.180We like to do our own research and we like to find things out.
02:24:18.180So these people aren't going to fall in line behind this kind of, like, meme energy or this kind of, like, this amorphous online social club where it's like, you know,
02:24:30.760TNB and freaking frog memes and all this great stuff.
02:24:34.060They are going to – they are going to – they're already equipped to think, like, well, I'm a reasonable individual and I like to find things out on my own.
02:24:41.520And if they are at the point where they're starting to ask questions, then the individual targeting strategy I think works very well,
02:24:48.020understanding the psychological profile of who you're addressing and directly addressing them in an intimate and friendly and compassionate manner
02:24:54.840where they feel like you actually do care and basically displaying that we do care.
02:24:59.220We do care about them and we care about their families and we care about the well-being of their nations.
02:25:02.840I think that that's a – that is the – that is an approach that I would advocate for.
02:25:08.400So thank you for the mic, brothers and sisters.
02:25:44.820I've seen that they hit the oil – some of their oil production facilities also.
02:25:48.760Yeah, I don't know if you guys saw this, but I came across a post in Telegram where it was a picture of an ex-post,
02:26:06.780and it was an Israeli saying, they're trying to turn us into Gaza.
02:26:14.360And I couldn't help but post that picture on the timeline because the hypocrisy of these people, it knows no bounds, right?
02:26:24.720They can murder children, flatten entire apartment buildings because, quote-unquote, a Hamas general base is underneath it or whatever BS they feed us.
02:26:36.940But as soon as it's happening to them, it's, you know, pray for peace.
02:26:43.380Pray, pray, pray for peace in Israel, please.
02:26:46.420Just very, very funny witnessing this.
02:26:53.080I personally think that it's a personality disorder within the Jewish race that is incapable of self-reflecting
02:27:04.040and taking accountability for their collective actions, right, because it really makes no sense for them to say, you know,
02:27:16.180we're going to bomb all of these Muslims next door to us to oblivion, make sure that they starve to death,
02:37:09.440Yeah, I guess there was an assassination attempt planned from Israel to assassinate the, uh, leader of Iran and Trump stopped that in the tracks.
02:37:19.180I think what we're seeing here is, uh, Trump kind of saying, Hey, I'm fucking head honcho here.
02:37:44.460Did, did he see a chrome size Netanyahu?
02:37:47.720No, Netanyahu, he doesn't, Netanyahu, he doesn't even poop, dude.
02:37:58.260Yeah, he's just like a chow, uh, cow that chews cud, right?
02:38:02.740He regurgitates his food, chews it, and swallows it numerous times because he's got, like, eight stomachs, right?
02:38:09.840Um, but I was, I was going to give, uh, you know, I was going to channel Radio Race War here with this take.
02:38:17.720Um, but I don't think people quite understand the, the difference in regards to intelligence when we're observing Israel and Iran.
02:38:30.220Israel's attacks on Iran have been very precise, where Iran's attacks have been more along the lines of, what can we get through the Iron Dome?
02:38:41.980Um, right now, at least what we've been able to observe in regards to the differences is that Israel is able to launch rockets from inside of Iran to assassinate, um, figureheads within the IRGC.
02:39:03.080And, and, obviously, Iran doesn't have that.
02:39:06.820I remember seeing footage this weekend of a, a rocket launch, um, inside of Iran that was probably full, I, I would say off of the naked eye, it looked like it, it was launched four or five blocks away from the target.
02:39:24.260And, and Israel right now is going after, like I said a little bit, uh, earlier, figureheads in the IRGC, the, the Iranian army, and attempt to dismantle leadership.
02:39:39.800So, that way it creates chaos and they don't have any big brains running the battlefield.
02:39:47.040So, whether we care to admit it or not, Iran is completely outclassed in the moment, at the very least in regards to intelligence and the ability to make precision, precision strikes on their targets.
02:40:05.700Um, do we like seeing Israeli apartments leveled?
02:40:11.380But would it be better to see Israeli diplomats and figureheads within their army, uh, equally assassinated the way that they're doing to Iran?
02:40:50.020Yeah, of course, because I would love to see mutually assured destruction.
02:40:54.500But we do need to observe this with, uh, neutral lenses at some times.
02:40:59.280And I think in regards to where this conflict is going to bloom, it's, it's going to be, you know, a tit for tat and a bit of a war of attrition because there's so much distance between the two countries.
02:41:14.360There's not going to be a standing army in Iran or Israel.
02:41:18.980There's not going to be, you know, um, guys in really, really long shirts shooting at guys wearing diapers anytime soon.
02:41:28.160It's not going to happen unless they meet somewhere in the middle.
02:41:31.040And somewhere in the middle, like Syria, um, Syria hates Iran and Israel.
02:41:38.920So they wouldn't allow that to happen on their home turf.
02:41:42.560And, uh, I think what we will witness is, however prolonged this becomes, is how many Iranian military officials get assassinated, why Israel and their officials may stay intact.
02:42:02.340It's just trying to be real with you guys.
02:42:05.300You know, Israel can take out as many leaders as they want to, where Iran is kind of just shooting from the hip and hoping that they hit something, you know.
02:42:14.920I also, too, think another thing that's kind of scary to think about, right, is that Israel has a bunch of little sleeper cells all through Iran making these little drones and setting them up to be launched off.
02:42:31.060Now, if they're doing that on Iran, what's to think that they're not doing this out here in America, right?
02:42:36.980You know, every state that we have could have some little Israeli Jewish fucking Mossad and shit like that, building a bunch of fucking drones and trying to use that as leverage over, uh, our officials and politicians.
02:43:23.000And there is a Jewish community inside of Iran.
02:43:28.000And that's, that's also a big difference between Israel and Iran is that Israel is a legitimate ethno state where everyone who is a citizen and holds any type of positions of authority are Jewish.
02:43:44.840Yeah, Jews may not be involved in the government, but that doesn't mean that they're not involved in the general populace.
02:43:51.240And what that leads to is what you just mentioned is the sleeper cells.
02:43:56.640It makes these types of espionage and, um, quick draw attacks from within possible because they haven't, uh, laid the law down in regards to creating a legitimate ethno state for themselves.
02:44:10.980Or at the very least, um, hammering down on religious ideologies and saying, you know what, we are a Muslim state and Jews aren't welcome here and Christians aren't welcome here.
02:44:23.040I know it's not, you know, ideal for me to say Christians aren't welcome here because a lot of people are Christians.
02:44:29.600But if, if Iran was a serious country, if any of our countries were a serious country, we would obviously want our people in our best interests at mind.
02:44:39.320And, and we will witness more of these sleeper cell attacks because they're, they're not a legitimate ethno state as much as people want to think that they're just all towel head wearing, uh, long, long, long, long shirt wearing people that that's actually not the case at all.
02:44:55.420We, um, so I would encourage you guys to just look into Iran a little bit.
02:45:01.280It, it, it's a legitimate country and, um, there, there's real people there.
02:45:19.120So, um, throw out the stereotypes of what you think of Iran because, um, everything it's, Iran's demographics isn't surface level, all desert people with a common ideology and killing America.
02:45:36.160America and, you know, all worshiping Muhammad.
02:46:17.280I wanted to touch on why Trump might have ordered that attack to stop, or at least to publish it as such.
02:46:24.800Um, I think maybe he's trying to garner some type of, uh, support from the American people.
02:46:33.280It's not looking like he's just going balls to the wall, kind of holding back, trying, you know, holding the, the, the fucking little rat terrier on a leash.
02:46:41.540Um, and then on top of that, I think that if like America was funding Israel to just go around all these Middle Eastern countries, like they have been obviously.
02:46:53.220But if like they were just straight up in broad daylight, just knocking off every single head of, you know, all these leaders, I think that that would lead to, that would escalate to a lot more.
02:47:03.880Like they would feel like their, their backs were against the wall in a much more, uh, extreme fashion.
02:47:11.080So they would need to like, start open.
02:47:13.840Like you guys, you're saying sleeper cells on the Israeli side.
02:47:16.660Like I'm sure there's sleeper cells from, there has to be, look at the population of these fucking Browns.
02:47:22.740There's populations of sleeper cells, probably just waiting, itching for them to get the, the permission from their Imam or the Ayatollah or whatever the fuck it is that can command all these Muslims in our country.
02:47:33.880So like, Hey, go fucking shoot up a mall today.
02:47:36.980You know, they, they haven't been doing that lately.
02:47:38.940It seems like I, I can't remember the last time I heard of a major Muslim terrorist attack in the, in the West.
02:47:46.740Uh, so I think maybe that was a little bit of Trump's, uh, 40 chess, if you will.
02:48:18.560I, I guess the only reason why I'm nitpicking is because, you know, our, our homelands have been subject to rape gangs, to these, uh, miraculous events where cars drive themselves into crowds.
02:48:32.680And, um, you know, they're apparently they're driverless and the person who steps out of the car just so happens to be Muslim.
02:48:40.400Um, so, I mean, just having Muslims in our territory creates these, uh, these terrorist attacks.
02:48:48.780But yeah, to, to, to your point, there, there hasn't been any strict orders on regards to like, hey, you know, load up your AK and go take out that playground or, or mall.
02:49:01.100But we, we have been witnessing, um, Middle Eastern terror and Western countries, but it, it, it's solely due to, um, to our mental retardation in regards to diversity, equity, and inclusion.
02:49:30.900And, uh, speaking of which, uh, I just seen on the news desk that, uh, you, uh, Trump is saying, I, I'd say to Iran, it's not winning this war.
02:49:41.620They should talk and they should talk immediately before it's too late.
02:49:46.720So I guess he's kind of, uh, um, you know, trying to calm things down, but at the same time, he's still gripping to the Jews, you know,
02:50:01.740Um, I think it's important to consider like talking about the, uh, you know, the, the public side of what we see with these geopolitical negotiations.
02:50:12.640It's important to keep in mind that like, what, what really, and I'm, I'm, I'm not really, uh, stuck to this idea that I know, but what really does Israel want to happen in Iran?
02:50:25.240Um, if they get a total regime change, if they get some sort of, uh, like, uh, strange global homo, liberally aligned puppet regime installed in Iran and begin socially engineering the Iran-ness out of them, does that help them?
02:50:49.120Or is it better to keep them around as a boogeyman?
02:50:54.580Is it better to be able to lob missiles at one another, target their, their government, use it as a display of power, but keep, you know, kind of keep Iran around.
02:51:12.400Bibi Netanyahu has basically made his whole career.
02:51:15.040If you go back, there's 40 years of footage of Bibi Netanyahu talking about how bad Iran is and how they're going to wipe out Israel and how they're, you know, two weeks away from a nuke and all this stuff.
02:51:26.340And it's, part of me does think that, um, there is a, there's a very big benefit to having Iran as this focal point for the, uh, you know, global Islamic terror organization.
02:51:41.140That, um, the, um, the neoconservative, uh, you know, project for a new American century really needed as, um, this kind of accelerant for, for their, uh, actions, their escapades in the Middle East.
02:51:56.520And, um, that Israel kind of likes having around too, because if there's one thing they really like, it's, uh, you know, boy, they were under attack.
02:52:06.920Exactly. Like they're, they're all, you got to also consider that they're going to be using this as a way to get their, their citizens out of the country to other countries as refugees.
02:52:19.300Right. So they're going to do the same thing that, uh, that they did in Gaza.
02:52:26.200Um, and then, I mean, the parasite doesn't, they're not worried really about Israel at the end of the day.
02:52:31.460I mean, they just want to keep control of it.
02:52:33.280But I mean, if it gets smashed to the ground, like they're not really going to, they're going to, you know, it's just, they're just going to go and parasite somewhere else.
02:52:41.540Right. So they've, uh, sucked enough blood from one spot.
02:52:45.160They're moving on to the next kind of thing.
02:52:46.740So at the end of the day, they want to, they're looking at the whole pie.
02:52:50.500They're not just looking at the piece that they're, they got their finger on.
02:52:53.340Right. So they want to, now they want to get their people spread out and, and fucking pretty much take over the different parts of the world that way and sneak their way into our societies again.
02:53:04.760And then there'll be so many of them out of, you know, coming out of Israel into our societies that they'll just, they'll try and parasite again and again and again.
02:53:17.400It's getting dangerous with these Jews.
02:53:19.240There's, there's, uh, you know, Hitler was right.
02:53:24.660So at the end of the day, but, um, what do you guys all think about this whole King's protest?
02:53:32.380Did anything exciting actually even come out of that?
02:53:35.040I'm just a bunch of faggots fucking whining about how they want to, you know, everybody to be in, everybody to be free in America.
02:53:44.660Yeah. Did anything actually happen with that? I was kind of paying attention, but I kind of just a bunch of faggots being a bunch of faggots publicly, you know, how can they fucking dress the weirdest that they can fucking dress and, uh, be the most outlandish they can fucking be and, uh, make themselves look silly.
02:54:04.080And, uh, hopefully all the, uh, good Americans saw them and was like, Hey, yeah, that definitely is not us.
02:54:10.560That's the biggest fucking, uh, pill that we can take in my opinion.
02:54:14.500But, uh, yeah, I saw some blurbs on, um, on the news out here.
02:54:19.120They had something in downtown Orlando, which was weird because it wasn't on any of the like flyers or any shit like that on all these fucking lefty faggots and shit like that, that I found on Facebook.
02:54:30.320So it's like, Hmm, maybe it's just something that like, you know, some regular people just got together and was like, Oh, well, if they're doing it everywhere else, we're going to do it in Orlando.
02:54:40.420So I, I guess it did it everywhere, but you know what I mean?
02:54:43.500Uh, I haven't really seen a, uh, a lot on anything about it.
02:54:47.240You know, I guess it's like everything, every little bit of footage that they have on these fucking protests are probably embarrassing.
02:54:54.040So they're not even wanting to fuck up a post hitter and shit like that.
03:13:19.440Um, I thought I'd just mention, I recently went through, uh, Devin Stack.
03:13:26.020He has two series on South Park where he breaks down how South Park eventually led to what is
03:13:36.880now sort of JD Vance type of politics.
03:13:39.340Like, like, like we just want the normal gay guy type of view and, and, and, you know, to tie it in with what people were just saying, like, who's going to be the next guy?
03:13:50.740Hey, well, our next guy won't probably be JD Vance, but JD Vance is definitely looking like they're grooming him to be the next one.
03:13:58.620And, um, I'd suggest anybody, especially if you're a fan of South Park, which I am.
03:14:03.920And you go through this whole rabbit hole of that.
03:14:06.700Um, I don't think that the, the way that there's like, you know, the, the Jewish subversion and making, you know, pushing gay LGBT, um, gender ideology is really as, it's not very, uh, it's pretty subtle.
03:14:27.240And I think South Park's a good example of how the Overton window has moved over the, over the years and they've made it just sort of like, uh, you know, at first it was just like being accepting of gays and trans and then, uh, you know, it just keeps pushing it and pushing it.
03:14:48.000Um, and when you go through that, I think that's more where we're headed and some of the really, the really extreme examples that people cite are not the ones that really push the Overton window.
03:14:59.660It's more of the accepted stuff, like getting it to people through something like South Park, which is kind of funny and not as obvious about it and, uh, getting us to the point where we are now.
03:15:11.620Um, yeah, sorry if that was off topic, but just when I jumped in, I'd, I'd heard you guys talking about that.
03:15:49.900Cause I, I look at, it's a possibility for revolutionary change.
03:15:54.100Um, you know, I, I'm not shy to embrace some, some unrest, uh, when it comes to shaking things up and sorting out, uh, a, a new way of working.
03:16:08.900And we, we've, we've talked a lot about how things will go and that, uh, they, they kind
03:21:11.120But I pretty much am trying to, I guess, just fill in some blanks, some information that I never hear anybody speaking of that I'd like to highlight.
03:21:25.300But UNESCO, the UN, they are our biggest problem.
03:21:32.520I believe that if there was, I don't know how, what protests could do, but it could definitely direct most of America's population towards the real issue that plagues this planet.
03:21:46.740They are the ones that basically took over after the fall of the Reich.
03:22:20.600They believe that it's everyone's differences, ignorance to everyone's differences that has caused the wars.
03:22:28.540And they are here to put in our heads the solution, you would think, with everyone scurrying before the world wars and long before that, especially with the creation of the United States of America, to rejuvenate their cultures, the loss of what has been attacked, what has been subverted.
03:23:20.740That's why the United States of America exists the way it does on paper.
03:23:25.220At least in the declaration, the idea, that is, the ideological war that we have to prove that they have been subverted.
03:23:37.400And so this subversion, this attack on our educations and things like that, the UN, now the UN, it seems their agenda is the same as England.
03:23:51.760I do not believe that England, I do not believe that England is, they have the, that line is the illegitimate line of England.
03:24:03.220They are more just Christian and anti, more importantly, anti-European culture before Christianity.
03:24:14.180They are, they would be, they would be, the idea that pagans are these bloodletting, cutting hearts out or doing anything evil, worshipping Satan.
03:24:29.240It was all to shame the villagers, the workers.
03:24:33.380So the workers party, that is basically, if you were to take paganism and strip it of all, it's all the strangeness.
03:24:43.880You would be left with beautiful ways to track the calendar and when to plant and they love their work.
03:24:50.620They made all kinds of beautiful records that go along for the work.
03:24:57.720If you were to look for those simple things in everything that's been subverted, you would find that under, under all the things that they, the way they've changed it to make it evil.
03:25:10.360Now, energy is very important and subversives love to go after our energy.
03:25:19.860And so one of our biggest problems that no one is talking about is a zero emissions and Australia, I don't know if you saw how they treated their people.
03:25:30.500The Australian government treated their people in Australia during the pandemic, but they have been here for a long time.
03:25:37.800And they are big on controlling our energy.
03:25:53.720They want to make money off of batteries.
03:25:56.660So you have England and then you have Canada, who have always been an issue, especially during the World Wars was the perfect time for them to come down here and start.
03:26:10.340A lot of these things like freedom of speech, the way that it's taught is ridiculous.
03:26:17.300It's a Canadian construct, this freedom of expression.
03:26:21.040We shed oceans of blood to have the freedom here in the United States of America to have the freedom to speak out against oppressive authority, not to go around prancing around and expressing us in a sanctum of rainbows.
03:26:40.980That's Canada. Canada in 2001, maybe possibly more than likely before 2001, but myself, I know for a fact with my own eyes, they were stockpiling Nigerians in the southeastern part of Canada.
03:27:00.000I can't remember the exact place. And during the riots, if you noticed on video, you probably saw some Africans that they didn't look like American Africans.
03:27:10.960They look like tall, like they came from the desert. Those are Nigerians.
03:27:14.860And so we and if you look how Parliament conducts itself in Canada and just the way our media has turned out and just the bickering and the ridiculousness and just the the limits of our options of representatives, it all looks Canadian.
03:27:32.160I don't know if you ever know the movie. What was it called? Them or what was it with the glasses and they could see who they are?
03:27:42.700It was interesting because those Ray-Ban is a Canadian company. Those are the glasses that he was wearing.
03:27:49.360And I believe he himself is Canadian. The actor. I don't know for sure. I think that is Rowdy Rowdy Piper.
03:27:56.780Anyway, yes, I just wanted to highlight that UNESCO, they have embassy or they have buildings here.
03:28:03.280I think it would be smart to if there was going to be a protest in demand, we should be protesting the news, any the National Institute of Mental Health that drugged all our children.
03:28:17.740The UN building, the UN building, UNESCO, anyone involved in the news, the news buildings, that would be a great place to go and protest anyone that has a protest.
03:28:32.460I would think you would surround the news buildings. That would probably be the best place to protest.
03:28:40.260Thank you for that, Vidar. I haven't heard you for a while.
03:29:14.340I attended his, you know, convention thing, and he was a huge cheerleader for Trump.
03:29:22.940And if you went to any of those rallies, which probably most of you didn't, but they were, they were very white people there.
03:29:30.840I don't know if, uh, if you know the kind of golf loving, you know, NPC type of white people, that was a large chunk of the audience, you know, Fox News watching.
03:29:42.600And they're definitely our people, but they're not, they're not awake.
03:29:52.420But, uh, you know, you got to look at the guests that he had.
03:29:56.720He had all people that are in Trump's cabinet.
03:30:00.180He had, um, you know, Roseanne Barr, which is Jewish.
03:30:04.860Um, he had Alex Jones, which is probably a CIA asset or who knows what.
03:30:12.240But, um, I don't think he's the guy, um, he would be better than a lot of them.
03:30:21.200Cause he, I genuinely do think he likes America, you know, and would be America first, but I don't, I don't think he's our guy by any means.
03:30:30.860Um, and then the other thing I was thinking about was, this is just kind of my opinion, but we can hijack the narrative from these subversive communist protests.
03:30:45.600I, I went to one and there was not a single Palestinian flag.
03:30:49.440It's like these NPC people are able to be switched from one topic to another and in their brain, it just doesn't register that they're being directed to do these things.
03:31:04.200And, um, we could have, if we had thought about it, done like huge Palestinian stuff with all our people and burned Israeli flags like, like, uh, the other guy did and had palace, you know, pro Palestine stuff.
03:31:18.500Cause you can hijack them against their own leadership, you know?
03:31:23.680And I think that's something that we have to do is undermine this communist plot, which is what it is.
03:31:31.700Um, I'm doing it by observing what they're doing and who's doing it and just digging in.
03:31:40.780And I haven't done anything yet, but, uh, I'm thinking of making documentaries or making, you know, kind of videos that show what it is.
03:31:48.500I'm not sure how I want to do that, but, um, that's kind of what I'm thinking about doing.
03:31:54.280But I think we need to think about these things and, and realize that we can't be reactionary constantly.
03:32:00.680We have to plan ahead and do stuff organized and do it ahead of time.
03:32:06.540And I don't mean break any laws, but I mean, you know, especially moving their narrative away from their goals and trying to steer it towards our goals, which even a moderate form, you know what I mean?
03:32:24.220Like, don't go out there all white power and stupid, uh, that would just, I don't know, unless you want to get in a lawsuit or whatever, waste your time.
03:32:32.620But I think there's ways of us infiltrating this stuff and steering it and making it chaotic more than they want.
03:32:41.240And making, you know, infighting and things, which is what they do, right?
03:32:48.340And now, you know, they've got pied pipers basically leading the, the retarded sheep, the retarded gay sheep over to what they want to do.
03:32:58.060And you know, what happens to those people, if any of you read history and Marxism, they kill those people at the end of the day, at the end of the day, when the whole Marxist revolution, the glorious thing happens, right?
03:33:42.520But if it does, if the space doesn't encounter, uh, an error, then rest assured we'll be starting our backup immediately after if it goes down.
03:34:07.980Uh, I wanted to tie in with what Mythos was originally bringing up about what is, what's going to be, like, the next, you know, thinking ahead past Trump.
03:34:20.060Um, I don't know where, it's hard to tell how many people are at this point on this space.
03:34:28.160But in Canada, for instance, and, you know, very common pattern with the U.S. as well, is everybody, you know, a Trump comes along.
03:34:39.740And for us, it was Garipo Aliev and people are like, oh, this is going to be the guy.
03:34:45.600And everybody's, you know, falling for that again every time.
03:34:49.060And I think that the path forward is, uh, to repeat what Mythos was saying, is to not look towards the state and to look towards the people for doing this.
03:35:04.260And I think the, the real turning point is going to be just when white people start getting organized, um, borrow from, uh, Ferryman.
03:35:17.400I was listening to his, uh, rumble on Saturday.
03:35:21.420And you look at some of these protests on this, on the right side, and people have all different kind of flags.
03:35:30.040They have, you know, a Gadsden flag, uh, uh, a mega Trump 2028 and all this stuff, but nobody's really like just kind of hyper-focused on the same message.
03:35:42.260So I think what's really going to lead us ahead in, uh, through the next phase is going to be when we are organized first.
03:35:52.580So everybody's kind of linked up and can, um, organize leadership and organize their marketing and organize the message so that we're all kind of focusing on one message at a time, you know, going forward.
03:36:08.080So you look at like Joel Davis in Australia, when they do their banner drop, you know, it's really just one message.
03:36:15.760It's not like a bunch of people screaming random things or they're, they're just, you know, incoherently yelling about different shit.
03:36:27.980It's really hyper-focused on one specific thing every time.
03:36:33.100And I think that once, uh, people stop to kind of bring it back to what I was saying initially, when, when people stop thinking that we need, that they're just going to hope that the next guy is more far right.
03:36:46.880And that eventually we're going to get some far right leader.
03:36:49.500In my opinion, that's never, ever going to happen.
03:36:52.680Uh, I'm very anti-government, so I'm probably biased there, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.
03:36:58.920And, and when we start forming our own kind of, you know, you could say a rogue side government, or we start creating a grassroots movement to when people realize that there's no point in putting our faith in some, one of the two, you know, uh, giant douche and turd sandwich coming along, then we'll start to actually make some progress.
03:37:23.380So I think moving forward, the real, um, the effective path is going to be just getting organized.
03:37:32.500It's not, it's not about attacking one particular message or person or supporting any particular person.
03:37:39.020It's getting organized as a group first.
03:38:30.500Well, along with what you were just saying last week, we were talking about basically coming together and forming some type of a coalition, like a...
03:38:53.380So ideologically aligned on 99% of things.
03:39:02.160We're obviously not going to agree on everything, but, uh, forging our identity was the term I used last week.
03:39:07.740And obviously, yeah, it is our skin color, but there's going to be there.
03:39:11.460Like, I feel like we all have to kind of agree to a specific group.
03:39:35.340The host is having a little issues, apparently.
03:39:37.420Um, hopefully everything's going to keep going.
03:39:39.220Uh, but, yeah, we got to, you know, wake them up with normie points first instead of just, like, right up the front, you know, with, like, this and that and this and that.
03:39:46.940And then, you know, like, um, scare them away, you know, with Nazi flags and stuff like that.
03:39:51.920And, you know, just, like, talk to them.
03:39:54.640Practice talking to, you know, people just person to person, you know?
03:39:57.960Get them to realize that you're not, you know, you don't have, you know, like, kind of hide the agenda from them right away, you know?
03:40:05.080We're not, and then, and then slowly bring them to the light.
03:40:08.600And then, and then just, like, you know, the slower you go, the quicker they'll get, you know, the information in their brain for some reason.
03:40:16.860But, um, instead of just throwing right on the gas pedal right away, right?
03:40:21.340So, just, like, in, you know, go slow at first.
03:40:24.080But, like, for me, what I do is I drop normie points for the Canadians here because we can't do the, like, GTV flyers and all that.
03:40:30.860So, I'll just, um, I have some flyers I made that's, you know, going over some basic things our government's doing under our nose.
03:40:38.460A lot of people are very unaware of here.
03:40:41.820And, uh, I use that as a talking point to start, you know, pilling them and just be like, yeah, well, you know, they're also doing this and this and this.
03:45:53.460The normies kind of, you know, the normies kind of slowly pilled, like the ones who still haven't woken up to it.
03:45:57.520And just like take it slow, you know, give them some kind of basic normie talking points, especially things that our government are doing behind our, you know, under our noses everywhere.
03:46:09.280And start there, you know, just don't pull the full gas pedal all at once.
03:46:16.200You know, don't blast on the gas pedal.
03:46:22.000And then, yeah, just basically get the, draw the man a little bit slow, you know.
03:46:26.900You know, when you're reeling in a fish, you don't want to just ride on the thing right away.
03:46:31.500You want to kind of hook them a little bit, hook them a little bit, pull it a little bit, pull them a little bit, and then you start reeling.
03:46:36.320Otherwise, sometimes you'll break the line, right?
03:46:38.580So you got to really kind of just be, you know, take it slow.
03:46:57.920But this is something that, what you're talking about, I think is extremely important.
03:47:02.100And it's worth remembering that I like to emphasize the fact that the way the enemy operates is largely with social pressure, that we do see people punished for their views, or we do see people, you know, face consequences where they get, they get doxxed or something like that, and they lose their job or something like that.
03:47:23.680But a lot of that has to do with social pressure, and as more of our vogue come to the realization of what the situation is, we are undoing that social pressure.
03:47:38.360And the momentum that we are gaining in that realm is, since it's kind of a soft, more abstract perception among the general populace, among our vogue, it's something that it's difficult to actually gauge by metric, like where we are with that.
03:47:59.160And the acceptance and the acceptability of certain things that we can say, and the way that we can say them to people to create the feeling that this social pressure is not overwhelming, and that we actually do have a place for them where they can be comfortable saying what they think, saying how they feel.
03:48:21.760And actually, like I was saying earlier, and like something that is frequently brought up when you're talking about, like, the psychology of propaganda is the cognitive dissonance, like people want to experience the catharsis of undoing this cognitive dissonance.
03:48:38.120And very frequently, it can be as simple as saying, like, look, there is a, this is the platform, these are the people, you can come here and you can be comfortable, there are people out there who agree with you, and there are people out there who are willing to have these discussions.
03:48:52.680So I think, WHL brother, you're on the very right direction with that of, if we keep pushing back on this social pressure, battering it, and we can tell the enemy is on their back foot too, because you see people like Charlie Kirk talking about remigration.
03:49:06.960Remigration. I think Trump actually used the word remigration. So when you see these large public figures using our language, it's not that they have, you know, changed their mind, it's not that they've come around to our side, but the fact is that they are attempting to regain control of the narrative, and they are attempting to at least salvage some of the social pressure and, and maintain their ability to assert it as the general consensus.
03:49:34.460So the more that we are able to crack into that consensus, and demonstrate to people that that social pressure is actually not as powerful as the enemy wants them to believe, then this, this momentum of this catharsis that we are undergoing on an individual level, will start to become collective, will start to cohere, it already is.
03:49:56.020I mean, there's many of us here, we felt like when we were getting into kind of a more dissident narratives, then we did feel like we were alone, it felt like we were fighting against this immense social pressure, then we find each other.
03:50:09.040And we feel this cohesion and this collective catharsis. And it's something that is so incredibly valuable. It's such a wonderful accelerant to transform the outlook and the thinking of our people. But that is, it's, it's, you're absolutely right on track, brother. White power.
03:50:28.280White power. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah, no, like, I mean, sometimes I've noticed that some people, they don't like being that secondary, you know,
03:50:38.900like source of information, they kind of want to be that, that first source of information for the like friend group and their, their colleagues and their family. So it's like, sometimes just asking them questions, just a few questions, not necessarily going at them with talking points, even sometimes just asking them the question plans to see it. And then they think about it themselves all day, you know what I mean? Like, one time I was just riding my bike, and I seen some white guy walking by and I'm like, I just, I don't know, my headphone died.
03:51:08.040So I was trying to fix my headphones, but he was walking by and I was like, can I ask you something? And he's like, yeah, sure. I was like, do you feel disconnected from, from our country? Like, and the people in it right now? Like any, like, it wasn't even any, like a, you know, racial question.
03:51:23.060I just kind of asked him, do you ever feel like you're disconnected from your folk and your, your family, your friends and everybody around you? And he's like, yeah, from time to time. And then, uh, you know, just like little seeds like that, you can plant in people's head and they'll kind of just like internalize that on and off throughout the day or throughout the week.
03:51:42.500Like, and you know what I mean? It really kind of catches them off guard when you ask kind of funny questions like that too. Right. And then you get some thinking like, why, why, why do I feel disconnected from, from my own country? And, you know, like little things like that can actually go a long way rather than just coming right up in the face with, you know, Swazis. And I mean, that's fun too. Right. And some people that is the way to go, but, uh, for the people that like to be that, like, you know, first source of information.
03:52:15.600Yeah. First, I just wanted to say, uh, let's, uh, get back to those, uh, reposts of the space so we can, uh, get this back out there on the timeline. Uh, yeah, all the spaces, uh, seem like they went down. Um, and then, um, you know, let's see, uh, it was something before, uh, you started talking about that. Uh, let me, let me recollect, but, uh, yeah, just make sure we, uh, get that, those, uh, reposts back out.
03:52:42.500Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Let us know when you, when you get that thought back and, uh, yeah, just take a second down there since we got disconnected from the, from the whole thing. Let's get the space shared out. Really appreciate everybody who came back in and shared it right away. And, uh, I know a lot of people are listening when they're working and doing this and that. So, uh, you know, uh, please don't forget to, uh, get that reposted and it helps us, uh, get back out and,
03:53:12.500everybody finds face again. Cause I don't know why sometimes we just don't appear on the, on the link channel list. Like I've checked with multiple accounts that I've had and, uh, yeah, sometimes we're just like hidden. So it really helps us, uh, break through that, that, uh, censorship and also the algorithm just like saying, no, we don't want that in there. So, uh, thank you for everybody who has, and we really appreciate the, the people that came right back. And, uh, yeah, hopefully we'll not have any more issues, uh,
03:53:42.500today. And, uh, yeah. Um, I can't see if there's any hands, I can't see them right now, but, uh, let's see what Maga has to say. I'm throwing you the mic here. Hot potato.
03:53:56.640He might be driving. So he might, he might, I don't know if you're driving, don't, don't do it.
03:54:00.120No, I'm not driving. I'm just, uh, clicking the unmute button like nine times or 10 times just to get it, um, on mute. So, uh, yeah, uh, just chilling. What's going on? I'm, I'm trying to upload some video on telegram that I made from Friday.
03:54:21.120Friday of, uh, my interaction with the police on, um, at old town. Cause they trespassed me two weeks ago. And I wanted to bring some awareness to Wesley Robertson. And, uh, yeah, they have a, like I said, on Friday, they have a public road that goes right through the property. So, uh, I went down to the city and, uh, made sure that it was a public maintained road and that the sidewalk was, um, owned by the city.
03:54:46.500And I went three inches off their parking lot and, uh, sat there and held up a big ass Wesley Robertson banner. And, uh, sure enough, uh, you know, within like one second, towhead Korean saw me and he's fucking taking picture of me. And he's like, Oh, but you're on public property. I see. Make sure you stay there. And then he couldn't wait to send the picture to his boss, which his boss came over. And, uh, some little guy was Italian, but he definitely, uh,
03:55:15.620portrays the little Jew rubbing his hands meme. So I definitely think he's a little fucking Jew. And, uh, he tried to say that, um, I was trespassing and I told him I'm not. And, uh, he tried to tell me that, uh, he owned the sidewalk. So, uh, me and him got into like a little, uh, argument and confrontation. And they tried pushing me back, trying to tell me that they owned all the sidewalks out here.
03:55:40.120So I was like, well, uh, fun spot right there. Isn't fucking, you know, your property. Do you own the sidewalks in front of there? And they're like, I don't know who owns that. So I'm like, okay, fuck it. I'm going to go over there, you know, and I go over there and I hold it up and I'm like, is this better? And I'm yelling at them. And they're just like, got a cluster of motherfuckers watching me and shit like that. So they're hopping on the phone and everything like that calling. So I'm like, fuck, these guys are probably going to call and try to fucking have me arrested and everything.
03:56:08.280So then I call the police and I'm like, yeah, I'm trying to fucking protest out here. And these guys are fucking, you know, uh, bullying me and, uh, harassing me and this and that. So one of the managers comes out of fun spot. He's like, Hey, stay off my pro our property. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I know. I'm not on your property. Oh, I, I know. I know. I know what you're doing. And this motherfucker was talking to me. Like I was a fucking idiot kept on interrupting me and everything and trying to tell me how to protest, you know, cause I'm just so fucking stupid, you know?
03:56:38.200And, oh, well, wouldn't it be better for your calls if you go over to the checkers? And it's like, he's not understanding that. Yeah. I'm trying to get people who are here in old town, enjoying their fucking day and might walk over there to checkers to boycott fucking checkers and shit.
03:56:52.980So, uh, yeah, they started going after me about that shit. Right. And I'm just like, look, I don't even want to be in front of your business. All right. I want to be on that corner over there. They have pushed me back and said, I can't. So I have the sheriffs coming to dispute this. Right. And, uh, yeah.
03:57:09.040So when the sheriffs came, he, he brings his own sheriff cause they have a sheriff on funds for property. So them motherfuckers come, uh, come out and, uh, you know, all the fucking, uh, the staff from the fucking old town start walking over and they're all trying to be up in my business and shit like that. Right. And I'm telling them, Hey, yeah. I tell the, uh, the sheriff that's there. Look, I called you guys. I've already confirmed that I'm allowed to be there.
03:57:35.440So when the other sheriff came in, I'm like, yeah, these motherfuckers are saying they fucking own the, uh, the sidewalks, you know what I'm saying? Um, and, uh, that they're God, you know, and, uh, there definitely ain't God. So he was like, Oh, where are you trying to stand? So I'm like, here, I'll show you. So me and him walked over there and they, they didn't like that, you know? And then, uh, we sat there and talked and I posted up my fucking, uh, banner and then, um, whatchamacallit, they, you know,
03:58:05.020they're sitting over there all fucking mad watching me. And, uh, I tell him, I'm like, look, I'm on public property. There's a street sign right there. So he goes off, right. Uh, talks to them for a little bit, then comes back and he's like, all right.
03:58:19.940The dispute is they, uh, they mow the lawn and they just, uh, here between the sidewalk and the street. Cause at first, right before that, they tried to, uh, say that I had walked onto the sidewalk when I interacted with towhead Korean and shit like that, which I did not still on the public sidewalk.
03:58:36.980And I told him, I'm like, everything's on body cam. If you need any fucking disputes or anything. So then they tried to say that, uh, they just recently got an assessment and it shows them, uh, owning the sidewalks or whatever like that. So, um, they're going to go call the property appraiser and, uh, get this sorted out and shit. So I made them fucking call their own property appraiser and, uh, figure that fucking bullshit out.
03:59:00.680So they're on the phone with them comes over and that's what he's telling me. He was like, Oh, they're just disputing. Cause they, they maintain the grass here and everything. So finally this little, uh, little fucking Italian wannabe Jew motherfucker started creeping up and I'm like, yeah, you know, yeah. And he goes, he's okay to stay here right where he is. And I'm like, Oh, thank you. I appreciate you. And he's like, don't appreciate me guy. And I'm like, no, I appreciate you. You know, looking up your boundaries and, uh, learning your laws and
03:59:30.680constitution. And the cop is like, Oh, come on, calm it down. He's like, how long do you plan on being here? I'm just curious. And I'm like, at least like another hour and a half, two hours, you know, as soon as the sun goes down, there's no point in me being here and, uh, everything like that. So yeah, out of the first hour of me being there, I spent about just a little bit over three hours there passing out flyers. But, um, yeah, for the first hour was pretty much, uh, dealing with these fucking cops and I edited up a little fucking video, but it's 32 minutes long and
04:00:00.600three gigs and telegram is like, give me the money every month. So I'm like, fuck son of a bitch. Uh, I might be tempted to post it here to X, but I really don't want to, I only want to select a few people, uh, actually seeing it or whatever like that, but who knows? I might feel generous. Uh, but, uh, yeah, I'll land there. And, uh, white fucking power boycott fucking checkers. They don't fucking vet any of their fucking shit. Oh, and I just saw a fucking blurb, right?
04:00:29.640Because I was, I've been watching these, uh, news stories about this shit and, uh, the original one, it's, it's confirmed. He was, you know, uh, arguing about mayonnaise. He wanted mayonnaise packets and they didn't want to give it to him. So he was arguing with the manager. Uh, he asked to speak to a manager. He was arguing with the staff. Right. He said he used foul language. Right. Now to me, I'm thinking he was like, fuck you niggers.
04:00:59.640Fucking taking home all the mail packets. And maybe, you know what I mean? There'll be some further fucking customers. But, um, yeah, apparently all he did was call the guy a pussy. He said he was a pussy. Cause I guess the guy was talking shit. So they were talking shit and he called him a pussy. So the guy hopped out of the window and showed him how much of a pussy he was by not fighting him and pulling out a gun and shooting him in the chest. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
04:01:29.640Hey, he pulled out a gun and shot him because he called him a pussy. Huh? Cause he wasn't willing to fight him. Interesting. Have to stew on that. If anybody's hungry, I'll yield there. Thanks for listening to me.
04:01:43.000I got, I think the swear jar is full, but that's okay. Um, if you guys can take one thing from the stories that we gotta, you gotta, we gotta all be resilient, extremely resilient, like a MAGA here with dealing with these people that are going to push back on what we're doing.
04:01:59.640Is we are not only brilliant, but we are resilient and our resilience is what's going to not let us take these, uh, you know, these fuckers saying, you know, you can't do this. You can't do that. We fucking built this goddamn fucking country, these countries. So our ancestors backs got broken to build these countries.
04:02:23.980And we're not going to let these little fucking, these little people, you know, these little people in high positions just make us, you know, not do what we're wanting to do, what we're here to do. So yeah, be resilient. And, uh, yeah, cool. Awesome story, man. We'll go to mythos now.
04:02:41.780Yeah, I'm going to go back just a little bit, uh, maybe a long way. Um, but I wanted to mention that the Devin stack, uh, you know, is, uh, must be doing some really good work. Cause not a day goes by lately that I don't hear some reference to some work that he's done. Um, and so if you don't know, uh, Devin stack and the black pill podcast, uh, you know, look him up and, uh, start, uh, getting some of his material.
04:03:11.780Uh, a Devin stack video. Uh, that's one area that I have not done at all. Um, so I also, uh, speaking to myself here in that, but, um, he also, it's, it's a part of, uh, kind of a bigger, uh, tapestry of our network. Uh, and what I was thinking earlier was about, um, our white power, like factory, right?
04:03:36.520We're talking about manufacturing white power. Uh, there are some who, uh, who learn how to do it, right? Just like a, a regular factory, a regular businessman in America. He, he does a thing, uh, say Henry Ford does a thing, builds an engine, uh, studies it, gets some guys together, do it, does a great job.
04:03:59.160Um, and then, then he creates a process for doing it well and doing it fast and doing lots of it. Right. And then it's, uh, then he can expand. He can start to, uh, make the, uh, streamline the process where, uh, he's able to do a lot of output.
04:04:19.340And I think that's one thing we should think about here, right? We're, we're not all Henry Fords. We're not all mid-level managers. We're not all C-level executives. We're not all grunts. We're not all, uh, floor sweepers. We're not all, uh, you know, good with our fingers, being able to put things together. Uh, so everybody has really a place.
04:04:45.700And when we look at the factory, the white power factory, you know, assess your, assess your abilities and, and involve yourself with a group that allows you to, uh, express those abilities, those skills, those ideas in a way that, that brings more people together that, that can do a bigger job, faster, quicker, whatever. And, and be honest with yourself about where you fit in all of that.
04:05:13.500And, and, and let's, let's really start, uh, getting this white power factory together and putting out some, uh, some high powered white power, uh, as we go. So just, you know, think, think a little bit outside yourself. Uh, you know, and that's, that brings in, uh, Devin Stack, right? He's, he's not, he's not the, uh, the factory guy. He's more like, uh, one of my friends who does fly fishing, um, lures.
04:05:39.280He's, he's in his garage by himself. He's very good at what he does and he, he crushes it with his very special talent all by himself.
04:05:49.020You know, there's, there's some of those and there's the other guys. So there's, uh, there's a lot of different ways, uh, to participate. You can be a Devin Stack and put out great information and have a great impact.
04:06:01.060And that might be your role or your role might be learning how to function within a group and, um, and being able to multiply your power, uh, in a way that makes a difference in the big picture, where it's better than you doing it alone.
04:06:16.580Uh, and that's kind of what I wanted to, uh, just touch on there. Um, kind of harkening back, but yeah, thanks.
04:06:26.640Absolutely. Yeah. Whatever Devin Stack is doing is definitely getting across to a lot of the normies. Like last night, uh, on stream, there was some guy, he was, uh, from my neighborhood, actually from, from like local, local area kind of thing.
04:06:38.720Um, and, um, he, uh, he wasn't really like, he didn't know about like, you know, the, he's not on X. Um, and he's, uh, he knows some of the like gypsy crusader type characters, but he, he was like not on the page yet. Not on, you know what I mean?
04:06:54.080But he knew about Devin Stack and he, he said, you know, he was talking about Devin Stack's video. So those are definitely reaching the normies who, uh, aren't on X, who, uh, aren't really in these spaces and doing these things with us.
04:07:06.760So, um, yeah, whatever he's doing is really working. And so, um, definitely, uh, we got to keep him on our radars and, uh, you know, keep with his talking points.
04:07:18.220Cause it's whatever he's doing, it's getting through to them. So definitely right about that. Uh, see, skull mask is got his hand up. Let's go.
04:07:25.960Hi, uh, as a personal Devin Stack, Blackfield podcast, enjoyer, definitely recommend his material. It's excellent. Very well researched.
04:07:33.280He draws a lot of things together that otherwise are kind of hard to find. One of the things that, uh, I hope you're listening, Mr. Stack, um, he is super black-pilled.
04:07:44.820He's like, he gets, he'll like, he'll, he'll like the name of the podcast is just absolutely on point because like the way he talks, like, and I think one of his most recent ones, he was like,
04:07:55.820I don't know how we are going to make it out of this. And, uh, it just occurred to me while Mythos was talking that like, that might be a side effect of some of our more loner autistic types on our side.
04:08:10.380You know, it's like, um, it's, it's, they don't, they don't really have the brotherhood. Like they're sitting there and they are alone and they are, you know, he's going deep in this stuff.
04:08:20.560So he's exposing himself to a lot. And, and I, I, when he said that, I was like, brother, we gotta like get you around a campfire, but, uh, I love his stuff. He's just does a phenomenal job.
04:08:32.560Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, the campfires, you know, it's a big, uh, this is how we used to tell stories like around the fire and all that. Our people used to just like gather around a fire at night where you can't see it. You can, all you can see is the faces. You can't see their bodies. It's kind of like a dissociation, uh, type of exercise. And, you know, like you, you tell stories and you kind of lose yourself in the stories and, and, you know, looking at the fire and really reflecting on,
04:09:02.380the, the flame is basically, you know, what made us all, we're all, if there was no sun and this and that, you know, we wouldn't be here. We wouldn't be in these spaces. And so it's kind of like a part of our soul that we can see externally outside of our, our body. And, you know, like really feel, uh, a certain type of way, you know, in a sense, uh, you know what I'm saying anyways, but, um, you're right about that. You know, we need to, we need to bring this back to the, uh, the, you know, in some, in a lot of countries,
04:09:32.080they'll have forest fires like here, we can't, we can't even have fires, open fires anymore. Uh, unless you're in a certain protected area, you know, we can't even have our fires anymore and do the, the real camping stuff.
04:09:44.000And that was always my favorite part of camping was just like sitting around the fire shooting the shit. So, um, definitely, definitely mythos. Go ahead.
04:09:52.520Yeah, I was going to, uh, tap onto what, uh, school mask was saying, uh, in regards to, uh, being alone and, um, and, you know, it's, it's kind of up to us. Right. And, and this is, uh, um, a lot of what we talk about when we find gaps, when we find, um, problems, you know, we, we have to exert ourselves to find, uh, you know, solutions to those problems, uh, means to, uh, giving a dev and stack.
04:10:21.800A bit of encouragement in terms of what is it that he needs in order to feel, uh, a little more hopeful, right?
04:10:30.720He needs to know that we are working on things. He needs to know that we, that he's not all alone. Right. And that we can, that we are going to do something that he's, uh, you know, that we're listening to what he's got going on.
04:10:43.900And that we can, um, overcome the things that he sees is a big problem. Uh, those are, those are ways that we can have an impact.
04:10:52.560So outreach there, uh, you know, letting him know, uh, in some more concrete form, not pie in the sky, not just encouragement. Hey, we're going to make it brother. Don't worry about it.
04:11:02.700But like real, like he's a thinker, right? So he, he, he's going to put things together. You lay it on the table as, as to what exactly is happening and give him an opportunity to, uh, feel that encouragement.
04:11:13.580So just, just wanted to add that in there. You know, we have, we have that responsibility. He's one of our guys and he's doing good work. Um, and we should, uh, you know, reflect the optimism that we have as we're putting things together, uh, back to him, uh, in reciprocation, kind of give him a punch in the arm.
04:11:30.680Like I'm a, I'm a big one to say, um, that black, black pilling is mandatory before you can be white pilled, right?
04:11:37.880You have to be sufficiently back, black pilled before you can be sufficiently optimistic because you have to soak in like, like, uh, I think it was Brian earlier who said, you have to be realistic.
04:11:47.440The realistic, um, outcome is we win. That's a realistic outcome. Uh, but without being sufficiently black pilled, uh, in realism that how bad things are, how hard it will be and how much will be sacrificed, then we can't actually formulate a, a proper response, a proper solution to the problem.
04:12:07.880So I'll, very true. Very true. Sorry. I lost my, oh, there we go. Um, we'll go to reason.
04:12:18.360Hey, I had a question for, for you mythos. Um, what do you view as winning looks like? Um, and then secondly, let me ask this too. Um, if you notice what has happened to our culture here in the United States is they create field goals and then they move
04:12:37.600the field goal. Like, oh, we only want marriage rights for gays and then they move it. Oh no, we want to screw your children. You know, like we know what the end goal is and you always sound insane when, when you're, when you're at the start of it and you see the end and you say, Hey, this is where they're going with it. So I think all of us need to think in terms of that and move along. Anyway, I'll let you, uh, respond to that.
04:13:04.340Yeah, I'll, I'll keep it simple and I'll go short term, long term here. Uh, very, very short term and very, very long term and, uh, kind of, uh, let the, let our collective minds fill in the distance. Um, winning in the short term is to be able to have, uh, white spaces that are ours and ours alone and, and that we govern and for our own good. Right. That's, that's a short term win. Uh, if we can have a,
04:13:34.340a fully operable return to the land community, uh, with, uh, fully functional, um, utilities and commerce and, um, and so forth, that's a win. I would even go smaller than that, even to the point where just having a festival where only white people are allowed in, uh, that's a win as well. And I think we have one of those coming up.
04:13:58.700So that's, those are short term wins, kind of graduating into bigger wins, uh, long term win. And this is kind of where it, it's very long term and, and how this sorts out and shakes out.
04:14:10.280But, uh, uh, that would be a white world, white earth, uh, that would be a long term win, but that's what winning looks like to me is, is our domination, our sovereignty over our own selves and our own, um, um, spaces, states, nations, countries.
04:14:26.860That's what winning looks like. Um, and, and, and anything short of that, any, uh, halfway measures, uh, is a loss. There's, there's, there can't be any, um,
04:14:38.860you know, it's, it's, it's, uh, no, no citizenship for a non, uh, at all is, um, is the standard, um, that I hold to be a win. Anything less than that, where nons are like, well, I'm kind of a citizen, right? Uh, is, is a loss, no property ownership, no voting rights, no, no marriage, no having babies on our land, nothing of the sort.
04:15:08.680Right. Uh, if they are here, they're simply here temporarily working till they move on and go somewhere else, um, or, or imprisoned or just whatever it is.
04:15:21.060But ultimately sovereignty is where I think the win lies is being able to decide for ourselves and have self-determination, uh, with the power of the state is, uh, one of the markers.
04:15:42.680So we got a, about just over 45 minutes left in the space here, uh, or sorry, in the, uh, airing unity show, at least now we're going on a white power lunch hour.
04:15:54.040Um, so if anybody wants to get up on stage, uh, you got about a half hour left before we close the mics off.
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04:17:59.940So, yeah. Um, I see that the, uh, Pentagon is, uh, ordering a lot of pizzas.
04:18:05.320So maybe some, uh, exciting things are going to be happening today and tonight.
04:18:09.640Uh, the, it's called the, the Pentagon pizza or that reports on local businesses that are like local, uh, pizza restaurants close to the Pentagon that get busy.
04:18:21.800And it indicates that they're going to be staying there for a prolonged period of time.
04:18:26.200And, uh, so with this war with, uh, Israel and Iran, you know, shit's about to get cooking.
04:18:32.180Iran keeps, uh, they keep, um, hinting that, um, that they're going to be nuking or using nuclear weapons soon, possibly.
04:18:41.000Uh, maybe they're just doing some, you know, with these ballistic missiles and the hypersonic missiles are seeing what'll get through their, uh, their, um, iron dome.
04:18:52.200Uh, so maybe they're just trying to figure out what's going to work the best to get a nuke on in there.
04:18:56.720And hopefully they tie a big fat nuclear bomb to, uh, one of them hypersonic missiles and shoot it right in the fucking center of Israel and, uh, take out a lot of the problems that we're, you know, experiencing in the world.
04:19:10.380Um, I don't know if you've been loving this, but I sure have, uh, you know, this has been, uh, a very interesting week for, uh, news articles and, uh, stories out of that region.
04:20:12.220I don't know if there's any fact behind it, but I did see that there are 20 some air tankers headed towards, uh, the middle East currently.
04:20:19.760I don't know if anybody had anything on that.
04:20:24.920Is that, is that the same, uh, group that was heading there?
04:20:29.040Um, the same group that was saying there like on, I think Friday or is it, uh, a separate?
04:20:49.800It might've been on the weekend, but, um, yeah, I guess, uh, there are some things starting to heat up with that and that, like, you know, with the U S going in, uh, be the, you know, the helper in the, in the region or something.
04:21:03.860Maybe just, uh, I don't really know, uh, a lot about maybe mythos, uh, knows a little more than I do, uh, in that regard.
04:21:11.220Um, but yeah, no, there's, uh, I hope, I hope that they don't get involved and just let them fucking blast each other apart.
04:21:19.120And then, you know, we'll kind of see how that goes.
04:21:22.440Uh, I'm really loving watching these hypersonic missiles just slam the fuck out of Israel.
04:21:27.240It's, it's actually really, really, uh, you'd think that it'd be kind of like nerve wracking to watch, but let's say for me, it's definitely like, wow, nice.
04:22:22.020Hopefully library will get back up here and the spaces don't cheat out again.
04:22:25.740But, um, the, uh, I, I think, um, Nate, I think what you're talking about, I think that's a new development.
04:22:34.600I think that was just spotted, like, last night.
04:22:37.720These, uh, air refueling tankers that were leaving, that, uh, were heading over to, heading over towards, uh, the Middle East.
04:22:46.240The, um, there's a couple of things going on that I'm not sure if are confirmed.
04:22:51.300I would like to know if you guys have any input.
04:22:53.360I heard that there was a mini earthquake picked up that actually registered on the Richter scale with an epicenter in Iran, which would kind of indicate, uh, a nuclear test occurred deep underground.
04:23:06.920They have these, um, deep underground bases where they do a lot of stuff and it's probably where the Ayatollah is right now and where a lot of the heads of the government are right now.
04:23:17.440Now, the problem that Israel is facing, uh, if they really want to actually do some serious damage to Iran's capabilities by getting at these underground bunkers is that they would have to use, uh, I'm not real familiar with the terminology.
04:23:33.240I think they're, like, J-Damn bunker busters, these, like, really, uh, heavy, high-explosive, you know, tunneling munitions that can basically breach, they can breach, like, several meters of concrete and, um, but these underground bases are apparently so far underground that it would take successive bunker buster drops in the same location to actually tunnel down into these bunkers.
04:24:01.080So, my understanding is that, um, these munitions can only be deployed, they're so heavy, and they're, they're basically, like, pseudo-smart bombs, but they, that they could really only be deployed by a B-2 bomber, and we would have to put a B-2 bomber in the air above Iran and drop, like, four or five of these things, apparently, like, directly on top of some of these mountain bases to actually tunnel down into the bunkers.
04:24:28.480So, there's only so much that can be done with, uh, missile attacks, and, um, the next phase in the decapitation strike would really, uh, would have to incorporate some much heavier munitions in something that would be, uh, have to pretty much be carried by aircraft.
04:24:45.980I might be wrong on that, I would appreciate, like, if anybody has some more information, because I'm not, like, a huge military hardware kind of guy, but, um, I do know that those bunkers are very far underground, and they are very well secured, and they have, like, meters upon meters of reinforced concrete, layers upon layers, and they actually use water.
04:25:05.640It's kind of interesting, they'll build, like, these concrete spaces, and, and they'll either leave them empty, or they'll float them with water, because, uh, the Bunker Buster munitions need something to tunnel through, so there'll be these cavities where the Bunker Busters will go in and detonate, and, and not be able to, like, actually affect the structural integrity of the, uh, compound.
04:25:26.200So, it's really interesting stuff, and it's, uh, we'll see if they're going to take it to the next level.
04:25:31.300I think the next couple of days will really, uh, tell us what's going on, and if the pizza report is true, then that does, uh, not bode well for the future.
04:25:40.560So, we've got a lot of indicators going on.
04:25:48.380Absolutely, yeah, um, I think Reason might know something. Let's see, uh, Reason, go ahead.
04:25:54.760Uh, yeah, so, like, this is where I see things going, man, and I've seen it for, like, quite a while, is, I think this is going to be a two-front war for the United States, and, uh, the third front will be here at home with, with this, you know, fake grassroots communist movement, but one front will be over there with Iran.
04:26:17.500They want us to fight that. They don't want to fight that.
04:26:20.260I just saw a video earlier of the, uh, IDF walking away, and people, like, hitting them and stuff on the street, and the IDF was just walking away from their position.
04:26:30.280So, they're, they're not, you know, they're good at shooting fish in a barrel, but they don't like, you know, to, not to be reductive, but, uh, you know, that's what they were doing to Gaza, just popping shots at children and stuff like that over the wall.
04:26:46.220Well, you know, now the, the shoe's on the other foot, and, uh, they are experiencing a tiny little bit of what they've been dishing out for two years.
04:26:59.000Well, for 60, 70 years, I, I'm not good at math, but since 47 or 48, um, what I see, too, is, uh, China will take this opportunity.
04:27:09.460They will not get in this with Iran. They may help them, uh, because they get some of their oil from them, but their long-term strategy, part of it, is the South China Sea, and so they'll probably, while the U.S. is distracted, start taking, uh, Taiwan.
04:27:26.900They've been, like, foaming at the mouth for doing this. They have, like, hovercraft-type stuff to go over there and all kinds of stuff, and, um, you know, all kinds of subversive movements going on in Taiwan as well to try and, you know, convince the, uh, people that live there to go over there, and that's a huge strategic, uh, deal.
04:27:51.020You know, uh, the Taiwanese, uh, chip manufacturer is the one that makes a lot of the stuff for the GPUs and the AI and all that, so besides them controlling the, uh, rare earths, they want to control, um, you know, the chip space, and so that's a huge target, and that's what I see happening, is they're going to attack, they're going to make us attack Iran,
04:28:18.080and then we'll get bogged down in that. Here at home, they're going to make a revolution, whatever comes of that, either it'll overthrow the government or Democrats will swing back into power and be like, oh, look at Trump, he's, he's just so bad, he caused this war in Iran,
04:28:34.700and Israel will get whatever it wants out of that, and then meanwhile, something will kick off in China and will be stretched in completely and maybe collapse, and that's just what I see.
04:28:47.660I don't know if that's what's going to happen, but anyway, any other thoughts?
04:28:55.440No, uh, I agree, yeah, they're, they're looking at, uh, Taiwan for sure, and, you know, it might be the perfect timing for them to kind of start doing that thing.
04:29:04.700That would really, uh, that would really create world chaos and, uh, screw a lot of, um, a lot of the markets over.
04:29:13.120Definitely the markets would probably go crazy, uh, especially the, um, semiconductor markets and all that, so you're definitely on to something there.
04:29:22.260Um, hey, library, can you hear me? Uh, I saw you had your hand up, and we'll let you go now.
04:29:26.780Oh, yeah, um, I'm sorry, guys, I've been, like, like, cut out from a lot of the spaces and everything lately,
04:29:34.600but anyway, um, I have to say, if you see a business that's mostly Mexican in a white neighborhood, boycott it, you know?
04:29:44.480Even if it's a grocery store, uh, they've been, like, doing all this shit to us and everything.
04:29:50.520They've been, like, cutting us out, and it's really too bad and everything.
08:58:34.020thanks Frank one tribe go ahead I appreciate the mic great space guys hey so I
08:58:47.400thought I heard Frank mention earlier that that civil war is the only way that I
08:58:51.380hear that correctly and then um if if yes then my mind immediately goes to threat
08:58:59.200assessment so um what what's what's what's my what's what's the number one
08:59:05.040threat Frank in your mind if if if indeed that is that is what I heard
08:59:09.440well there's no no that's all right brother you it's a good question there's no
08:59:14.080single threat it's a multi-faceted threat which encompasses part of our
08:59:20.720ideology the fact that we are working for the 14 words and the other people are
08:59:24.900working for anything but that so but they represent a very a varied group of
08:59:32.360mindsets and ideations and ideologies actually so when I say civil war I'll be
08:59:39.340I'll say it again I'll be very clear about it the only thing because I'm a
08:59:43.180pragmatist right starting out real young watching the elders and all that it was
08:59:49.060obvious to me then like it was obvious to those elders but but they like me like a
08:59:55.300lot of us in in this space we are reasonable men okay reasonable men are not
09:00:01.640going to win the day so I posited to Robert Miles and to Tom just anybody that
09:00:07.360when I was talking to I said the only thing that I see happening is this
09:00:12.600fissure becoming so broad that one side or the other is going to win and without
09:00:18.880going down the rabbit hole it's the only logical assessment of what we stand for
09:00:24.340like I always promote to everybody in here fuck just went right out my head
09:00:31.360dead we are sorry guys I lost my train of thought but what no I better wait and
09:00:40.980come back so yes a civil war because it's inevitable if we can't take care of our
09:00:48.380house you can't start taking care of all of these people trying to rob your
09:00:53.240house you have to have your house prepared first then they attack the house you
09:00:58.960repel them and then what's the next step guys you go right out the front door
09:01:03.420with 15 or 20 fellows and you take the opposition you put them in a very
09:01:09.320compromising situation is is what I'm trying to say right anyway hope that
09:01:15.080answer you no it does I and I appreciate it and then and that's fine if that's a
09:01:20.900consensus if it's if that is the only solution that's you know that we all agree
09:01:26.160if I could take the baton and run from there in terms of threat assessment you
09:01:31.020know prioritizing you know who's you know the the greatest threat that we need to
09:01:36.200attack first and that kind of I mean that's I'm not saying that's easy but yeah
09:01:41.480yeah if we all agree that's that's the direction then and then perfect I can then I
09:01:47.600can plan so yeah I've listened to you talk before so I kind of know your mindset a
09:01:52.160little bit so once again I will reiterate you take care of your men first you make
09:01:58.080them strong you prepare them appropriately you know where I'm going with that right
09:02:03.720all the rest of it is secured because the opposition now cannot fight a hundred men
09:02:10.460who are more than challenging for them to engage with if you if you understand what
09:02:16.820I'm trying to say so the only threat that I've ever seen guys you know I might
09:02:21.980be wrong I don't think I'm wrong but maybe I'm wrong if we present ourselves
09:02:27.300the strongest that we can be and to do that you have to clean up your own house
09:02:32.080right and that means a whole lot of things to me once that house is prepared
09:02:37.700all of your enemies are gonna pale in comparison for real I mean Donald Trump and
09:02:43.880these guys they have just secured more 500,000 Chinese and you guys I don't
09:02:48.980want to go off on that tangent but that's not securing your house apparently
09:02:53.580none of these retards have any idea how to put our people first and demand a
09:02:59.680reaffirmation of our working traditions our our families you know the the center of
09:03:07.840every every nation state is the family I don't hear not one motherfucker talking
09:03:12.360about that okay so until us I've never depended on Donald Trump to say shit for
09:03:19.040me or any of these politicians that's why I say out of my own mouth what I
09:03:24.160believe until we are the voices of our people and that my friends will require a
09:03:30.960whole lot more than you know rhetorical narratives right and at some point this
09:03:36.320issue is going to come looking for you guys you don't have to keep looking for it
09:03:39.220it's already here it's going to come looking for you it's all about
09:03:42.640preparation so on so forth just look at the world around you so look one tribe I
09:03:47.320know exactly where you're coming from I know what you're trying I know what
09:03:50.840you're analyzing okay and you're definitely on the right track
09:03:55.900I appreciate your feedback and your insights Frank and yes failure to plan is
09:04:02.900planning to fail and I appreciate my value there thank you
09:04:08.900yeah thanks one tribe and yeah I don't want to break my arm pat my back here at
09:04:15.380all Frank but from time to time I do when I talk about the the dynamic of the
09:04:24.920nation state and country you know I do I do base it on the nuclear family right the the
09:04:31.360nuclear family is the the model for expansion out to the state and everything
09:04:38.080falls on that and and you know the state I think will come and go based on how those
09:04:45.340nuclear families are then designed and and fortified as the basis of our
09:04:56.320civilization I think the basis of Western civilization as they say white
09:04:59.920civilization European civilization is based on this this nuclear family and I go
09:05:08.260so far as to say that I think the Constitution was pragmatically built on that
09:05:14.740maybe the best I think we've strayed from it greatly since then but looking at the
09:05:21.860way that they designed that it seems to hold a pretty solid foundation
09:05:29.020constitutionally based on this idea of a nuclear family the man running the
09:05:34.840household participating in politics and and how that representative Republic moves
09:05:41.440up from there it's you know it's a it's a debated topic I don't want to get into but
09:05:48.220every once in a while I do drop that maybe I could do it more and maybe it could be a
09:05:55.420better part of our overall conversation because I think that's the strength of our nation the
09:06:01.240strength of our nation is a nuclear family this and and that's period point blank into story for me and
09:06:07.340that's why I encourage them I appreciate those who have heard the message that they need kids
09:06:13.180I don't care if you're 45 years old 42 years old if you got it in you drop some kids drop some white kids get
09:06:21.280yourself a wife learn how to deal with that it's not easy it's it's more of a challenge but when you can work
09:06:29.100together you are a force multiplier unlike anything else ever known to man a white nuclear family my husband and
09:06:38.100wife are the most powerful thing that this that this earth has has created to date but yeah I see your hand there Frank I'll go to you and then we'll go to area in there no that was a lot of
09:06:43.280I'm sorry oh cool cool no worries yeah all right thank you Frank area and go ahead
09:06:56.940hey Frank I just wanted to say you don't got to worry about repeating yourself man we love hearing your stories
09:07:04.780you're you're constantly on the ball with all your wisdom with correcting the white man's thinking and
09:07:10.720I've taken that since I heard you say that a couple weeks ago I'm sure you've been saying it for years
09:07:14.600but first time I heard you say it was a couple weeks ago and I've been really taking that to heart
09:07:18.640and uh I appreciate it but I wanted uh that's it I don't think it's gonna fully derail it's kind of on
09:07:25.480the subject have you guys seen this guy Hermes that the fucking algorithm has been pushing all day
09:07:30.560he like interviewed these two white girls asking him about race mixing and uh yeah he's been all
09:07:36.760over my timeline yeah I think somebody like Ferryman somebody with a big fucking following should get to
09:07:41.500that kid and give him some upset because he's fucking retarded he literally is retarded his
09:07:46.600questions were fucking retarded he he made himself look really stupid I felt I feel like and uh he's just
09:07:52.500getting blasted for it yeah good point there uh Arian a guy who's gonna you know take that take that role
09:08:04.800get out there and do that uh needs to do it at a top level uh at a professional grade as Frank would say
09:08:11.200and uh we're we're the team to rally around and do that I agree uh if Ferry can do that um uh I'll uh
09:08:20.220take a look at what uh what I can do maybe some of our other guys can grab his ear and uh help shape
09:08:26.880him up if he's not quite on the ball uh yeah I wasn't impressed with what I saw from his video there
09:08:32.740either uh but not only is that video was that video being pushed but he's you know his other posts are
09:08:39.740all over my timeline for some reason um you know it's always interesting when that happens right
09:08:44.880it basically looks to me like somebody fucking gave him a hundred thousand dollars to boost his
09:08:53.960profile with like the most retarded chud jack takes that are like he literally said that if two
09:09:00.360people of different races have a kid the baby will end up retarded he said that and it's like
09:09:04.920dude that's not even true like yeah there's going to be problems but you can't you can't conflate our
09:09:08.940fucking points and make yourself look like an idiot because it reflects on the rest of us
09:09:12.180yeah exactly exactly that's the game right so Frank good yeah as a segue to this kind of
09:09:24.200interesting you guys brought that dude up I think I saw him early early this morning or yesterday I
09:09:30.080can't remember pretty close within 12 hours but at the same time I'm having my feed inundated with
09:09:37.380a couple of these pretty interesting videos of dog breeders being interviewed the same way about
09:09:44.520mixing dogs and I'm telling you out of like seven or eight women who were you know quote-unquote
09:09:51.120breeders or they work with dogs or whatever um they straight up said one after the other that mixing
09:09:58.720these dogs completely destroys you know the ability of these dogs to perform yada yada right
09:10:05.060and then the guy closed out the interview there was a couple of different interviews but this one
09:10:09.980in particular he goes well does that relate to people too and you know four or five out of the
09:10:15.320seven straight up right I mean didn't even hesitate oh absolutely okay so you got in juxtaposition
09:10:21.200this one guy this Hermes guy or whatever and this other one uh about dogs I don't know about you
09:10:27.120guys but I noticed things real quick I know it's social media and all that right but obviously the
09:10:33.500algorithm is pushing this opening up of the narrative about not only the scientific implications but the
09:10:43.100almost rhetorical implications of everything we fucking see like the one post I put up about this
09:10:49.480fucking little black girl was holding this squirrel upside down by the tail and you should see the
09:10:55.180comments on the original post plus a little a few on mine the complete Bacchus look not only on this
09:11:02.920one girl there's three or four zero black kids all around and they're all there is no empathy no
09:11:08.900sympathy no understanding of how to treat animals okay and so that definitely segues into this whole
09:11:16.500thing about mixing and not the purity spiral don't get me wrong right but you guys know what I'm talking
09:11:22.780about keeping our blood pure keeping it within our house right is the most consistent and normative
09:11:32.120of all conceptions known to man we are on the cusp remember what I said last year or even a couple
09:11:39.520years ago I was trying to give you guys a an analogy or a metaphor right not only are we at the top of the
09:11:46.280cliff looking down but we're on we're on the ascent down and and that's not a black bill that is to say
09:11:54.220you know when you get pushed off off the cliff right you have to survive you have to figure out a
09:12:00.220way to survive and we are on the way down fixing to land on the ground you know on our feet going
09:12:08.540forward I mean the talk is almost over right I mean the world is at a place right now that you cannot
09:12:16.940convince the majority of people you can only live your life and when that is not enough either just
09:12:22.340trying to live your own life right uh just be alone then guess what guys people get pushed off the
09:12:28.300cliff and when they hit the ground running the world is going to fucking shake and crumble and
09:12:34.620you know it just is what it is guys our great great not our great great grandparents but our
09:12:40.020grandparents in my case they were in world war ii my mom you know was a fatty riveter and all that
09:12:46.880kind of shit we we've not lived in that world but that world's been here for about I don't know 30 or
09:12:52.94040 years and now it's just fixing to get real so like I said you don't need to look for this fight
09:12:59.300this fight's been looking for us my entire life and the lives of all the men prior to me well fellas
09:13:07.140it's here now and if these politicians don't have their shit together and we see all these people you
09:13:14.100know talking about uh uh Tom Cotton and all these idiots talking about oh you know I love Israel
09:13:19.560you know and I love this you guys don't hear me talk about the Israeli kind of thing right and
09:13:25.220well fuck I don't want to go down that rabbit hole but the issue that you guys are all concerned with
09:13:31.180you know these these morons who are in who have power given inadvertently by an unsuspecting public
09:13:39.880these guys are fronting themselves off left and right so I don't need to go after these guys
09:13:45.380these guys are already telling the world what time it is and it's not the world that I'm ever
09:13:51.340going to live in just like you guys right so just just be patient you know prepare do do everything
09:13:59.580that you know that you guys have to do and um we'll see you on the other side
09:14:03.840thanks Frank uh yeah we will uh on the other side of victory indeed
09:14:14.360uh that's where we're going that's our only option we don't have any
09:14:19.920compromise in our spirit on that point uh Stu I saw I saw you came up uh how you doing buddy
09:14:29.120what's going on good good man I'm over in southern Georgia right now doing some work out here it's uh
09:14:35.040full of niggers and pajits but it's okay I want to hit some things that Frank talked about earlier
09:14:39.820though uh because I think it was a pretty good correlation on a the way we treat animals versus
09:14:45.200the way nons do when I was in Texas ended up picking up three dogs dude it could have been so
09:14:49.900many more white folks we have a heart and we actually care about things that's what we that's
09:14:54.780what we built what we built right this is part of it what we who we are by the way can y'all hear me
09:14:59.260okay can y'all hear me yeah good to go okay good deal um sorry service has been really spotty
09:15:09.960the fact is though is like we've got a heart for that we actually know how to like you know
09:15:13.840take care of things and build things up that's why we got to the point we're at
09:15:17.240it's taken years for them to subvert and destroy you know what we've built and we're getting to a
09:15:23.960tipping point I think uh very very rapidly at this point um because of years of subversion through
09:15:30.940media through culture and through forced mixing it is not natural for a white person to want to go
09:15:39.860intermix and enter interbreed with a with a non it's just not natural my parents are not race
09:15:45.880built at all but it's a point of pride that like you know we're Scottish English and like you know we have
09:15:50.600you know pure blood it just is that's not coming from like you know uh you know a racist standpoint
09:15:56.440it's just it is what it is and like you know if I was to bring home something that was not
09:16:00.860it'd be frowned upon those are not those are not racist things those are just normal everyday
09:16:06.800things and we have to quit acting like it's not um we've let these folks control the narrative for so
09:16:13.640long and it's it doesn't make any sense and let's live it at that and thank you Frank you're always an
09:16:19.320absolute blessing to listen to hear or listen to I appreciate you let me uh have the time to speak