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00:00:00.000 to come out to talk about this and they also began to clear up a lot of the misconceptions

00:00:05.760 which really date from two works that what some of you may have read one which is Gunther Leimann's

00:00:11.920 The Vampire Economy from 1939 which um and also Franz Neumann's Behemoth in 1942 and with an

00:00:20.800 expanded edition in 1944. Both of these take the position that the Third Reich's economy was

00:00:26.320 basically somewhat similar to Soviet Union and that it was a it was a it was a basically a

00:00:34.160 a boom economy it was a economy that it wouldn't last that long and though it needs to be something

00:00:40.240 there needs to do something something needs to happen needs to be a war this is a view that has

00:00:45.440 recently been re-argued a lot with people saying that they needed a war because the Third Reich

00:00:50.640 economy wasn't collapsed and essentially but essentially this is nonsense this is the classic

00:00:56.240 way of trying to tell trying to undermine your opponent by saying that you know the economy was

00:01:02.560 bad and which would just collapse and the economy will collapse the same thing was said about the

00:01:06.720 Soviet Union at the same time by the way the same thing is about the US at the same time in different

00:01:11.760 ways so the entire concept's a bit really ridiculous um but it's nevertheless used substantially because

00:01:18.800 the Third Reich can't argue back now in order to understand what was going on with these um with 0.89

00:01:28.320 the actual Third Reich's economy and why it was the way it was uh we have to understand the state of

00:01:32.880 play in 1933 when Hitler took power now we must remember that of course in 1928-1929 there was a that you

00:01:41.280 have the Wall Street crash you have the US economy goes down the toilet although in terms of GDP the

00:01:48.880 economy doesn't shrink that much but in terms of the actual effect on the people at the lowest level

00:01:53.680 of society the effect is massive this then causes the US to call in loans that it's made to Germany via

00:02:02.480 via the archetypal German um politician of the Weimar era Gustav Stressmann so essentially we get to a

00:02:09.600 situation where they've where the US is calling in loans the the the all the cheap credit has gone

00:02:16.960 all the um so the the Third Reich's um the Weimar Germany's economy is in the toilet because the 0.88

00:02:25.200 stock the stock exchanges collapsed and this is rather famously portrayed in Babylon Berlin as uh traders

00:02:32.160 hanging themselves and whatever and this kind of thing actually happened and this was the time when the

00:02:38.080 NSCAP came really came to notice because they're the people who had who had a solution now of course

00:02:45.680 it took another three or four years the NSCPE to come power but that was only because they were

00:02:51.200 kept out of power in 1932 by a conservative military junta completely unelected I might add who had no

00:02:57.680 popular mandate whatsoever and were ruling by the law of the the emergency the emergency decree that became

00:03:04.000 the enabling act of 1933. so they were using that to pass laws and some of those laws were economic in

00:03:11.760 nature including ones in 1931 passed by the catholic central party uh president um heinic buning which

00:03:18.960 basically to bet forbade the transit of foreign currency out of Germany which is the base where havara comes

00:03:24.960 from so we have a situation where 1931-1932 we have massive unemployment to the point where I think

00:03:34.880 it's like five to ten percent of the of the German people were unemployed and this is a time where if

00:03:41.200 you were unemployed you didn't eat and if you did eat it was via charity or via some kind of social

00:03:47.520 social safety net and there was a social safety net in Germany but it was it like like it is today 0.82

00:03:53.120 it had been overwhelmed and it was being completely gained often by communists one of the things that

00:03:59.440 communist historians absolutely hate when you talk about it is the fact that the actual working class

00:04:06.000 of the working class who worked were tended to be NS or SD or SPD so Socialist Party of Germany or the or or

00:04:15.280 National Socialists or if you were unemployed to be a communist which is why the communists basically

00:04:23.120 were preventing they always had they always had a renter mob because all their a lot of their 0.99

00:04:26.960 supporters were unemployed and a further point today is that kind of that what about a crisis of

00:04:34.160 homelessness you have lots of um capital accumulation in in the hands of foreign speculators you had all

00:04:41.040 these kind of things going on which didn't help and you also had various different um like uh like basically

00:04:47.840 fraud um cases come forward at this time often against Jews who would basically um run a company

00:04:54.720 into the ground and run there and then run away with all the run away with all the money like they

00:04:58.880 kind of do today and further you had a foreign extremity crisis we've kind of talked about that a bit

00:05:05.600 in that we had we have got the export ban of foreign currency of 1931 which then triggers havara and

00:05:10.960 the agreement of our room in 1932-1933 as a way to get this foreign currency that they so desperately need

00:05:18.480 also what is not talked about very frequently is the the conservative revolution governments of

00:05:25.520 1932 had engaged in widespread nationalization there was an awful lot of companies including

00:05:31.520 four of the big banks that were all nationalized in between 1930 and 1933.

00:05:38.080 um so basically the state is having to pay for very much for very for the wages the salaries and the costs

00:05:44.320 of these of these corporations and enterprises they had that there was the matter there was a massive

00:05:49.360 pro they've got they've got massive problems they've got they've got a civil war in the streets

00:05:53.280 essentially kind of similar to what they've got today and they are trying to deal with it and they

00:05:58.240 can't because the scale of the problem is such that they they they don't have the if i might call it

00:06:04.400 the balls to take it on because this is a situation that requires sense of action one thing they do create

00:06:09.840 however as an attempt to help solve it is what what we call the uefa bills so they were created by hans

00:06:17.120 luther of the reich bank which who is um had my shack's predecessor and bruning and it's when the

00:06:23.120 catholic center party chancellor is the is the guy in charge these essentially these promissory notes

00:06:28.480 the ra form of alternative currency strict fiat currency strict promising note whereby the third

00:06:34.720 whereby the um weimar would say oh we're going to pay you x next time if you just turn up and say base

00:06:41.440 if you just kind of present this essentially it was an it was another form of currency that was the

00:06:46.560 concept now as we go on we're going to start talking about the solution about the solution the

00:06:54.480 third right came up with and it was a mixed solution it's a solution that i think a lot of people don't

00:07:02.080 know about nor do they and often there's a substantial cadre of people who wish to deny there was a

00:07:09.920 solution at all they want to claim it was something like that soviet union which is not the case but

00:07:16.240 let's go through it first of all richard ovary who's the historian um kind of characterized what the

00:07:22.720 goal of the nazi economy was when he said though they could still profit in the system they were 0.91

00:07:27.840 forced to do so on the party's terms profit and investment levels were determined by the state

00:07:33.120 on terms much more favorable to state projects rational calculation gave way to the privacy of

00:07:37.920 politics his point is that the such as the um the economy would be run for this for the nation

00:07:48.560 rather than for individual capitalists or for personal profit that was the concept that we're

00:07:54.800 talking about here it's a change from the kind of speculative stock market based uh you know just free

00:08:02.560 for all of the of the 20s and the early 30s to a more rational directed economy a bit like today in

00:08:11.040 that we have we have a u.s economy which is a free-for-all to a large extent but all of a sudden

00:08:19.920 there are little bits of the economy often to do with the military where you have some kind of free

00:08:25.120 market in place where it's directed so it's not just a an economy that it's just absolutely it wants

00:08:31.920 there is a method of direction to kind of get the economy to do to do what the state wants

00:08:36.320 that's what server was engaging in so we kind of we kind of touched on some of the problems that

00:08:42.800 they're facing like the and one of them that i wasn't aware of until relatively recently and when

00:08:47.840 i looked up was the was one of the ways that said like actually engaged with the foreign currency prices

00:08:53.840 because we've all heard about havara and we've all heard you know all the things of oh hitler was

00:08:57.760 outlying with the jews no he wasn't um but one of the ways it did that was by tourism now the third

00:09:05.040 bike isn't what you a country you often think of in regards to tourism but in fact it was incredibly

00:09:10.880 successful because they the german the german government created a new agency i'm not going

00:09:15.200 to attempt to pronounce the german here because it's long and difficult but essentially they set

00:09:20.960 out a german railways basically holiday office essentially a travel office that would that would

00:09:28.160 it typically marked itself into foreign um to foreign visitors in order to gain currency

00:09:34.720 with this all-important foreign currency of the third reich and also encourage germans to travel

00:09:39.360 around germany and abroad and again you often don't hear this because you could everyone thinks oh

00:09:44.000 the third reich was some kind of police state the reality it wasn't it was a state that it took it took

00:09:49.600 no nonsense that's for sure it dealt with crim criminals proactively it dealt with subversives proactively

00:09:55.280 but it also was very pro people actually having actually going and seeing things and talking and

00:10:01.760 this kind of thing that you don't normally hear about but for example tourism grew 150 in two or

00:10:07.120 three years in germany um in during the third reich and that's pretty much up to around 1938 when it

00:10:14.400 began to curtail a bit just because of the the war clouds on the horizon you've had you've had munich

00:10:19.680 you've had all these different things so people are seeing generally less and less but although if you

00:10:24.160 break that down by country you're still getting very substantial increase in tourism from places like

00:10:29.040 scandinavia um from the south and italy you're getting places from something like statin america

00:10:34.720 the united states all that kind of thing but okay how did this how did the third reich deal with the

00:10:42.480 labor problem which is the unemployment crisis well they created the german labor front so the german

00:10:48.320 labor front under robert ley um who was a chemist by profession he was also a quite fervent german christian

00:10:54.560 um essentially allowed the third right to fix wages so it's like many protective professions do

00:11:00.240 to this day they have they have a scale of um compensation for lack of a term that you can have

00:11:07.440 what this does p and there's a lot of people who don't like this but it works to a degree in a

00:11:12.720 in in given scenarios what it does is it means that it sets the wage expectation of the workers it

00:11:19.920 ensures that the workers get a fair wage for a fair skill set and also it also means that a lot of

00:11:28.160 workers there isn't a lot of massive variation in things so so for example if you were to go and work

00:11:34.320 in a steel factory one day if you go and work in another in a different factory the next you're going

00:11:41.200 to get the same wage this then allows people to stay where they are so they're not going to they're not

00:11:46.640 trying to shop uh one company for another company to get more money out of it what it encourages the

00:11:53.360 people to stay at the company put their time in and actually do the right thing for the company which

00:11:58.240 is kind of the third wax economy in a nutshell really it's an economy based on trying to shall we

00:12:06.400 say put people to to make people work for the good of the community while providing them the best life

00:12:12.240 that they can possibly have um without burdening employers with you know the with having better

00:12:19.840 well i say burning but allowing employers to kind of to to put to to play um to play workers against

00:12:28.400 workers to kind of a race to the bottom in terms of wages by importing people or whatever so essentially

00:12:37.520 it it helps both sides so you've got so the worker knows i'm coming home with you know 20 000 right

00:12:44.240 mark a year the employer knows i don't have i okay i've got to pay this worker 20 000 right mark

00:12:50.800 but i know that there's a scale of pay i know what he is i'm getting for that so i so i basically my

00:12:58.560 employment costs are more fixed so we have a situation where all that is provided but also the third

00:13:05.840 reich in abolishing the trade unions and creating the german workers front allowed themselves to

00:13:13.600 promote health among workers so the concept is quite it's quite traditional really the idea that

00:13:20.880 if we if we support the workers in being healthy and being fit as well as making the right decisions

00:13:28.320 as well as making sure they get holidays you know because everyone wants a holiday and at this time

00:13:32.960 this was this was an absolute rarity um essentially everyone benefits so by doing that the state

00:13:41.120 makes sure that the these workers have cheaper free or and or cheap holidays cheap lever cheap leisure

00:13:47.200 activities access to good food access to good medical care all these kind of things things that

00:13:53.760 today in the united states we have that are very much a pay to play the concept is quite simple and it

00:14:01.840 also allows us to understand the other aspect of the daf which is rather which is to provide a labor force

00:14:08.800 so basically like it like in for example in the draft you could choose to join the front or you could use

00:14:15.520 to on the peace corps in the the daf was almost functioned as the third rights peak peace corps in many

00:14:21.120 ways in that you would you weren't going to fight at the front but you would nevertheless but you would

00:14:26.560 nevertheless spend time um working as working for the common good and you would basically act as

00:14:33.120 act as a cheap labor force while the third right also would be able to basically direct your labor

00:14:40.080 for the for the benefit of the people like example daf personnel were often used in civil construction

00:14:45.840 projects they were used to build the autobahn they were used um in the war to fill in shareholds

00:14:53.520 the shell holes to help build things to direct things so people benefited from their time in the

00:14:58.560 daf but it isn't normally talked about because most people only think about it in terms of the holidays

00:15:04.000 but it's a whole um constellation of things including some of the very some of the very first holiday camps

00:15:10.320 that um that were in germany so it's probably better to understand um

00:15:17.520 um it kind of in the way of looking at looking at certain myths which is one of which is this idea

00:15:25.920 that basically that the the german economy was heavily directed and to quote buckem and scherner

00:15:34.240 in 2006 they said despite widespread rationing of influence firms normally still had ample

00:15:40.640 scope to follow their own production plans and they also went on to say investments decisions in

00:15:45.760 industry were influenced by state regulation but initiative generally remained with the enterprises

00:15:50.640 there was no central planning at the level or composition or in the composition of investment

00:15:55.200 neither under the four-year plan or during the war and they go on to then further qualify even with

00:16:01.520 respect to its own war and autarchy related investment projects the state normally didn't not use

00:16:07.760 its power to secure an unconditional support of industry rather freedom of contract was respected

00:16:12.880 however the state tried to induce firms to act according to its aims for offering them a number

00:16:17.680 of contract options to choose from so essentially what what he what they're saying here is that this

00:16:24.640 is that despite this kind of idea that the third right was operating on four-year on the four-year

00:16:30.080 on sort of these kind of very structured plans the truth isn't the truth is that is not the case

00:16:36.560 they were basically they were plans as we'll see to um basically to to focus on autarky

00:16:44.320 they weren't to control industry they were they were to build up german industry rather than to tell

00:16:51.440 it what to do essentially they were and they were pushing them to do that and they did it via using

00:16:57.360 contracts using the standard things that we'd expect in the modern economy which is the first really

00:17:02.640 some of the first times these things are used now one of the things i'm sure you've all heard

00:17:09.040 especially from libertarians is that the the the the third rights economy was very similar to the

00:17:15.760 soviet economy this is complete nonsense it's based upon the similarity of two terms which is that the 0.88

00:17:23.280 shack's four-year plan uh also under goering um and the five-year plan of the soviet union

00:17:30.960 so what book i'm and share said shona say is despite the income encompassing organization

00:17:36.560 grace to execute it the four-year plan was not at all comparable to the soviet five-year plans

00:17:41.920 its ambition mainly was to rapidly increase the output of a few basic products by import substitution

00:17:48.080 in order to reduce the dependence of the third right on imports of strategic importance even in doing

00:17:53.280 that the state largely abstained from the use of force put another way the us the the

00:18:00.160 third right was not engaging in a like a proper like a planned economy it was what it was doing was

00:18:06.640 telling it was was was putting in certain requirements to industry to say you must do x y z on these

00:18:17.360 particular items in order that we can build up autarky so that we have so that from the bottom

00:18:23.840 the third right is building up its own ability to produce everything it needs within its borders that's the

00:18:28.960 concept but obviously then also not that they're not going around collectivizing things as the

00:18:35.760 libertarians will have you believe and one of the big things that really kind of plays into this is

00:18:40.880 the concept of privatization so the third reich is not known for being a massive privatizer but in fact

00:18:46.240 it was one of the big things the third reich did very very early on from 1933 to 1935 was it went it

00:18:53.280 basically privatized every single company that the conservatives and the catholic center party had

00:18:59.680 privatized and nationalized during from 1928 to 1933. they did this because the basic in its position was

00:19:09.280 these economy these companies were best run by people who knew what they were doing not by bureaucrats

00:19:15.680 and also that it was not in the state's interest in the long term to have these on the books so they

00:19:23.440 sold all these off this generated a very large amount of money which was then flooded in back into the

00:19:27.920 system to help germany with its debts and its problems but also it's worth pointing out that every

00:19:33.680 single contract the third right did and kind of is implied by what book i'm book i'm and uh shown and said

00:19:39.920 i like previously that they provided a series of privatization options so for example if something

00:19:46.400 was being run by the state then it was being created the capital was been putting in the state

00:19:52.320 then the third then the third back would put in a privatization option it would say okay

00:19:56.240 in four years you have an option you can either buy it from us we can franchise it from us

00:20:01.920 so either you are either a private company is going to be running either a coal mine um it's

00:20:07.600 now it's going to buy it buy the rights from the german government for however much money or it's

00:20:13.760 going to be franchised from the german government so essentially the the german government gets a

00:20:18.960 profit share of that of what of whatever is made which which is both ways the german government makes a

00:20:25.200 profit but of course the third like had a real real problem in the form of a form of liquid currency

00:20:33.680 one of the problems that we have today as we have as we had then is that there is a liquid there was

00:20:40.080 a liquidity problem in the a lot there's a lot of money stuck in fixed assets so how do you deal with

00:20:47.040 that the third right came up with a way of um basically doing that based upon the uefa bills that

00:20:52.480 luther had introduced in 1932 under bruning they're called the mefo bills their concept is very very

00:20:59.680 similar but they were introduced by uh by shaft and with hitler was chancellor of course the difference

00:21:06.240 is that the mifo bill why while it was still a promissory note and the concept was almost identical

00:21:11.840 to that of the uefa bill what it was doing was it was acting as a promissory note that was intended not

00:21:19.360 to be cashed in so the uefa bill was intended to be cashed in at a certain amount of time it acted

00:21:23.360 kind of like a government bond whereas a promissory note that or the mifo bill wasn't meant to be

00:21:28.640 cashed in it was meant to be used as an alternative currency so it's kind of like if you read helio

00:21:33.920 belloc's economics for helen he talks about uh tally sticks being used in the in the british channel

00:21:40.080 islands as car as a kind of alternative currency and the same as concept here is that basically

00:21:45.440 the third reich has introduced a a kind of fiat currency which is completely uncontrolled by

00:21:51.920 foreign speculators so foreign speculators can't come in buy a load of this buy a load of

00:21:55.600 buy the mifo bills and corrupt the third reich because these are only bills that are valid between

00:22:01.200 germ between german companies and the concept is is that either the companies will pay each other

00:22:07.200 in mifo bills so they've kind of you've created the secondary currency and it's only really for

00:22:12.960 companies essentially you have a situation where there is less focus on the reich mark

00:22:19.040 but there is a set in there because you have a secondary currency going on in the background

00:22:24.480 which is purely fun which is basically based upon the germ the german government is willing to pay x

00:22:29.920 amount of rice mark for these but for for her mifo bill and then depending on that will be the value 0.99

00:22:37.040 of the mifo bill but the truth is is that broadly speaking the mifo bills always retain their value

00:22:42.880 because they would always be paid by the third right so that kind of comes into what we were

00:22:48.800 talking about there with the the what we saw was a change from stock it from stock exchange funded

00:22:54.160 capitalism to profit funded capitalism so the third right changed the rules in around the berlin stock

00:23:00.800 exchange and on the fanfare stock exchange so rather than having this system whereby

00:23:07.280 we have i don't know whereby you have you have any old any old person say for example mythos wants to buy

00:23:15.840 100 000 shares in microsoft and therefore mythos owns 100 000 chosen in microsoft and thus miss and

00:23:22.400 this gives mythos the ability to control or influence the conduct of microsoft instead you move away from

00:23:32.400 that so how does the third right do it it's what it does is it say it it massively ups the amount of

00:23:39.120 capital working capital that is required to be on a stock exchange which causes a quarter of all german

00:23:47.520 companies in 1933 to 35 to delist from the stock exchanges

00:23:54.240 what then happens is that because these companies have delisted from the stock exchanges they are started

00:23:59.520 they're not going to be run according to their according to the wishes of their shareholders

00:24:05.760 they're going to be run according to the according to how the the owners of the company the actual

00:24:12.400 people on the ground you own it the ceo ceo ceo whatever you want to call them think it's best to run

00:24:19.120 it so if you know anything about um business and high and the higher echelons of business and how it all

00:24:28.080 works with big companies one of the gripes you'll often hear from big companies is around shareholders

00:24:35.040 in and around how how the stock exchanges work because they say oh it's great we um we we listed

00:24:41.200 and we got we raised a billion but the problem is that billion comes with strings we want a return on

00:24:50.080 money that's the problem because the every quarter becomes the most important quarter ever known to man

00:24:56.240 because they want to make a profit and because they want to make a profit this is this then drives

00:25:02.400 risky and bad behavior so it drives short-termism in companies which is the worst thing possible if

00:25:08.560 you know anything about business because you can't you don't you're not applying for the future as much

00:25:12.240 anymore you're you're trying to make the next quarter make that profit call make that you know make

00:25:17.360 make the margins that your your shareholders want this is the problem and this is what the third

00:25:22.960 right does to get around it it creates me for bills which then take it which then which and

00:25:27.520 stops to stop this to a degree but then it also create it also changes the vaults around the stock

00:25:32.320 exchanges to stop this happening and it's kind of worth quoting uh book i'm a show and journalists

00:25:38.160 because they actually do a nice little passage on it where they say basically um industrial

00:25:43.120 enterprises normally generated enough financial means through large profits and high depreciation earned

00:25:48.800 that they could basically find their genuine needs without resorting to the capital market essentially

00:25:53.840 what he what they're saying is that a lot of these companies were not reinvesting the money

00:26:01.520 they had made into their business they were um they were either holding it back or whatever or

00:26:08.000 because of perceived well if i if i put money into if i put money into armaments as we'll see later

00:26:13.600 then am i get what happens when the war's over so to speak because then all of a sudden the value of

00:26:20.640 arm value of these stocks crashes there's no there's not so much such demand for armaments anymore

00:26:25.680 and we have to get really creative so the third reich deals with this by basically guaranteeing and also

00:26:33.040 actually adding some kind of oversight to how it was working it's kind of worth again quoting at some

00:26:38.320 length because for example they said book i'm sure enough say thus the regime by promulgating shack's

00:26:44.720 so-called new plan in 1984 very much strengthened its influence on foreign exchange and on raw materials

00:26:50.880 in order to enforce state priorities wage setting became a task of public officials the capital market

00:26:55.920 was reserved for state demand which is again the stock market are we doing the stock market again

00:27:01.440 and a general price freeze was decreed in 1936 in addition state demand expanded about precedent

00:27:07.280 by not between 932 and 938 it increased at the average and rate of 26 percent its share in

00:27:14.560 gross natural product exploded in these years from 13.6 to 30.5 as a consequence product consumption

00:27:21.360 as well as exports were largely crowded out the point being that the third reich was rearming it was

00:27:27.120 using its resources to help create infrastructure and new factories and new technologies which then

00:27:35.520 it could then either sell defend itself with or export

00:27:42.080 a major part of this look at this where they continue a major part of the rise of state demand

00:27:47.040 was in the form of orders from manufacturing enterprise enterprises that it could have appeared

00:27:52.640 quite rational to the state authorities to create state firms in for execution in that case the state

00:27:57.920 would have been able to save large profits that in fact were paid to companies that engaged in

00:28:03.120 production and production for state demand however the state did not proceed along this path meaning

00:28:08.160 the third right there occurred hardly any naturalizations of private firms during the third

00:28:13.360 right in addition there were very few enterprises newly created state-run firms the most spectacular

00:28:19.200 exception to that rule was the Weisswerk from Hermann Goering which was found in 1937 for the

00:28:24.480 exploitation of German low quality iron ore deposits which is a good example of how the third

00:28:29.280 right would use things to its advantage because the low quality iron ore deposits were not commercially

00:28:35.920 viable but yet was there to be used and were vital if the third right was going to have a autarkic system

00:28:42.880 so they created a large state-run enterprise to exploit that in the initial period until such time as it

00:28:49.440 could be made commercially viable now if they continue today there is little doubt so that the assertion of

00:28:57.440 industry being an equal ally to the party in the center of native Germany during the Nazi period was

00:29:01.360 not well founded in this sense politics certainly took primacy over the economy however that does

00:29:07.520 not necessarily mean that private property of enterprises was not of any significance in fact

00:29:11.360 the opposite is true for despite extensive regulatory activity by interventionist public administration

00:29:17.200 firms served a good deal of their autonomy under the Nazi regime as a rule as a rule freedom of

00:29:23.200 contracts the important corollary of private property rights was not obliged in the third right even in

00:29:28.000 cases of dealing to state agencies basically the third right played economic ball with companies

00:29:34.000 throughout the period didn't try to unduly influence them beyond telling them you know we want to achieve

00:29:39.520 this this is what we're offering contracts for etc it's basically a modern mixed economy now to quote a

00:29:47.040 actual case study of this we have the textile industry which again not something that's widely known

00:29:51.360 about what associated with Germany but it is the fourth largest employer behind metal processing

00:29:57.280 food clothing and was far bigger than chemicals which everyone knows about from spring 1934 onwards

00:30:02.960 the purchase of raw materials was regulated by the in the textile industry later quotas were established

00:30:08.320 which in principle were restricted for each firm the processing of materials to a certain percentage

00:30:13.280 according to a reference period in addition beginning 1906 enterprises were required to mix a

00:30:18.320 minimum amount of artificial fibers with their inputs of natural raw fibers with this rationing framework

00:30:24.240 however firms were made genuinely free to produce those varieties of textiles they considered most

00:30:29.200 profitable to them even though the regular input quotas were decreasing in the course of time

00:30:34.640 but the regime also established a system of incentives consisting of extra rations

00:30:39.360 for of scarce raw materials also to firms that undertook to manufacture textual textiles high priority

00:30:45.040 requirements all export orders were privileged in this way which opened up to in entrepreneurs much

00:30:50.800 additional scope for autonomous decision making and production in a similar way the military orders

00:30:55.600 as well as those of other state agencies commanded extra crotus of input materials which enterprises could

00:31:00.960 compete for thus the German textiles industry in the northern Nazi period certainly did not work for

00:31:05.200 institutional settings of the markets but neither was it one of the one of the complete state direction and

00:31:10.400 central planning private ownership of firms still had economic significance because entrepreneurs

00:31:16.080 preserved a good deal of their autonomy with regard to the profile of their production until the outbreak

00:31:20.960 of war this is also true for processing behavior there existed numerous exceptions of the rule of fixed

00:31:27.520 prices which gave textiles the opportunity to considerably increase prices and reap very handsome profits

00:31:32.880 especially if they were able to get extra rations for raw materials in many ways the rationing

00:31:37.680 procedures in textile production set an early precedent which then followed in other industries the

00:31:41.840 rationing of iron steel and steel was organized in a comparable way military orders exports and certain

00:31:48.240 other categories of demand for iron and steel were given privileged status but there also was a quota

00:31:54.800 left for general purposes therefore enterprises manufacturing iron and steel products could and to a large

00:31:59.680 extent may did main control over the precise production plans and apply for the necessary amount of iron and steel

00:32:05.040 it's also worth quoting the case study of the steel industry where the initiative where the initiative

00:32:12.160 for self-financed investment projects normally had to come from the enterprises and not from any state

00:32:16.880 planning agency it is characteristic of the prevailing situation that already in the 30s purely private

00:32:22.240 investment in the industry was despite high profits rather low the reason there was not so much

00:32:26.720 regulation or lack of materials but but as many contemporary observers noted a critical assessment of economic

00:32:32.160 policy gave to rearmament that prevented businessmen from investing money in new plants instead of

00:32:37.760 undertaking new investment projects existing capacity was overutilized to the extent that per unit

00:32:42.720 production costs sometimes even increased again in addition firms used much of their liquidity to

00:32:47.680 reduce debts or finance mergers a case in point was the steel industry which was just the temptation

00:32:53.200 to greatly enlarge its capacities and action the regime would have appreciated in consequences in

00:32:58.640 consequence the shortage of steel and the product was absolutely essential for rearmament quickly

00:33:02.480 developed resulting in the introduction of rationing in 1937 there was no financial no lack of financial

00:33:09.040 means in the steel industry for example between the autumn of 1972 and mid-1978 krups retained earnings

00:33:14.160 including depreciation amounts of 251 million reichmark but during the same period krupp only spent 45

00:33:22.640 million reichmark for capacity enlargements for financial investments in other companies it dispersed 30 million

00:33:28.000 and accumulated as much as 58 million in liquid form the management did not wish to concentrate

00:33:32.080 exclusively on rearmament in fact krupp kept producing a broad assortment of civilian goods

00:33:37.040 even during the war in in that it was no exception a report on the industry commissioned by the armaments

00:33:43.520 ministry in 1943 concluded the steel firm still manufactured a whole range of products for peace time purposes

00:33:49.840 now what that means if we look at the extra the textile industry and the steel industry is that the third

00:33:55.200 reich was engaging in basically it was it was it was trying to incentivize companies to do what it

00:34:01.120 considered to be the right thing but it didn't force them to do it this is completely different from

00:34:05.360 the soviet system whereby you had soviet commissars going around basically demanding they do xyz

00:34:11.760 this again completely puts at odds this libertarian idea that somehow the third reich's economy was in

00:34:17.280 any way comparable to that of the soviet union in fact it wasn't a it was an economy that was we would

00:34:22.320 consider mixed so it's very similar to a modern economy in the sense of it's a kind of a scandinavian

00:34:30.560 economy where you have high benefit you have high tax high but high fringe benefits paid by the state

00:34:36.800 but also a lot of with so with some regulatory behavior but also a lot of freedom and a lot of

00:34:43.440 incentivization for people for companies to come up with new ideas to create new products but also

00:34:49.760 despite a lot of how you might think of the third reich there's also a lot of freedom in there

00:34:54.720 in that even the third reich is not dictating e.g even during the war it's not telling the

00:35:00.320 um it's not telling the cook plants you can't produce peacetime things anymore even though

00:35:04.960 they're middle of a war and even in the late 30s they're still not they're not telling they're not

00:35:10.560 telling you have to increase capacity which again plays into this idea that the third reich was not

00:35:17.840 re-arming for war it wasn't re-arming for war it was re-arming to protect itself essentially

00:35:22.800 because otherwise if it was re-arming for war it would have told to do it

00:35:28.960 and it's kind of an important thing to understand that there isn't that the third reich did however

00:35:33.040 build in something that allowed it if it needed to to take control which is called that which is

00:35:41.840 called the forced cartelization law of 1933. so even in 1944 it proved to be impossible to effectively

00:35:49.760 direct private investment which in the which for many people it explains the uneconomically large

00:35:57.040 sales of machine tools between 1938 and 1944 in germany the nominal power of the reich economic

00:36:03.760 ministry to prohibit all investment in specific industries is no proof to the contrary this uh

00:36:09.200 this law we're talking about is the forced cartelization law of then day three it was enacted then

00:36:14.160 as one provision of the law basically allows it allows the german government to force a situation

00:36:20.640 the aim was to prevent construction of any new capacity for which there was no real need

00:36:26.720 a tendency that often occurs in cartels basically they're stopping that happening although not

00:36:32.800 restricted to cartels forced or otherwise the provision was applied only to it in a few specific

00:36:36.720 cases sometimes the provision of application was requested by specific industry itself exceptions from

00:36:41.520 a ban were always possible in some instances it appears that uses a device to protect branches nominated

00:36:47.680 dominated by small and medium-sized enterprises and ruins competition in others no real restriction

00:36:53.520 only information about investment behavior was intended but of course small and medium-sized

00:36:58.080 enterprises were exactly those that during the war came under mounting pressure to close down and

00:37:02.080 release their labor and other resources for more efficient use in larger firms heavily engaged in

00:37:06.560 armaments production however the most severe threat in this respect stemmed from when the decree of

00:37:12.640 january 1943 however the resistance to such action was great and consequently closures proceeded more

00:37:18.720 slowly than planned the decree itself was an emergency measure of total warfare and therefore cannot be

00:37:24.160 taken as evidence for any inflation of the regime towards socialism and social planning in fact the

00:37:28.640 reopening of firms closed after war was guaranteed in other words the third a lot of the evidence quote

00:37:36.160 unquote that is used to say that the third practice is some kind of proto-soviet state which is around

00:37:40.320 albert spear and the total and the shift of total war in january 1943 um it's complete nonsense because

00:37:47.360 the third right realized that very well that fundamentally this economy wasn't this this economy was

00:37:52.720 unstable it wasn't what they wanted but they they had to close down smees which are the basis despite what 1.00

00:37:58.720 we may have been told for the basis of any economy is your smees it's like 70 80 90 percent of the economy usually

00:38:04.240 um so they've they've guaranteed the smees they've guaranteed that they will be reopened and they

00:38:10.720 will be sorted out um because it's a temporary measure and even it ends to put even by keeping

00:38:18.240 intact the substance of private firm ownership the nazis thus achieved efficiency gains in their war

00:38:23.520 related economy at least on the firm level and perhaps as perhaps surprisingly they were aware of this

00:38:28.320 relationship and made consciously consciously use of it to further their aims thus planning had

00:38:34.080 need a very different meaning in the nazi state than it's in the soviet union it is therefore not

00:38:38.720 at all astonishing that this was often emphasized by contemporaries in many quarters it is ironic

00:38:43.280 however that the actual planning done by state agencies in the nazi economy was rather chaotic and

00:38:47.200 contradictory a fact that's been established in the strip quite well recent research even casting

00:38:52.400 doubt in the traditional assumption that much changed in the suspect under the spear ministry

00:38:56.800 rather a big part of the so-called rearmament's miracle from 1942 onwards probably was you was more

00:39:02.080 due to resources being devoted to armaments production as well as learn as well as learning

00:39:06.080 that had been acquired from the preceding years thus a private property was consciously and deliberately

00:39:14.000 preserved by the third reich right to the bitter end the ideal nazi economy what would that look like 0.71

00:39:20.480 would it would be to limit it would be to liberate the creativeness of a multitude of private

00:39:24.640 entrepreneurs in a predominantly competitive framework gently directed by the state to achieve

00:39:30.160 the highest welfare of the germanic peoples but this directed market economy as it was called had not

00:39:36.000 yet been introduced because of the war therefore a way to characterize the actual german economy as

00:39:40.400 of the third reich might more realistically would probably be as a state-directed private ownership

00:39:45.280 economy instead of the term using the term market but that means neither that specific measures

00:39:50.560 taken by the state were really helpful in the war effort nor that the markets played no role in

00:39:54.880 the actions of enterprises the expectation of eventual reassubment of markets as a set of

00:39:59.280 institutions to govern the guns of business did shape the behavior of firms during the war when

00:40:03.360 markets actual importance was much diminished the relationship between states and the industry in

00:40:08.000 the nazi period can therefore be interpreted as a temporary partnership where the state was the

00:40:12.080 principal and industry the agent however the agent not only uh not only as always had a very close

00:40:18.240 sign its own interests but actually prepared to bring the principle itself in the future

00:40:22.240 in the meantime of course industry adapted to the regime's sometimes irrational wishes

00:40:26.720 often at little financial cost but by deferring development plans of its own it is therefore

00:40:32.960 obvious that there existed in opportunity costs to enterprises then it's clearly indicated by the

00:40:38.800 composition of industrial investment for instance only about 40 percent of industrial investment in

00:40:42.720 938 was private in the sense although it was not directed by the state now all that being said we

00:40:49.680 can see that the third right had an economy that again was mixed it was based on private property it was

00:40:55.840 based on competition but the third right had a very clear understanding of the problem with capitalism

00:41:04.000 it didn't oppose capitalism in the sense that it didn't think it thought capitalism was a good thing

00:41:08.480 thing as long as it was held within certain buffers so a lot of what we see is in the third right is a

00:41:17.520 government which is which is grappling with not only an economy in crisis which the evening gets out the

00:41:24.480 crisis by re by by reintroducing as much capitalism as possible but but with guard rails so you couldn't do

00:41:32.080 what you wanted but also we can see that fundamentally this the industry was trying to industry was trying

00:41:39.200 to say it was going to say i guess say with the word but trying to get back to controlling this controlling

00:41:45.120 the state and it was having problems because the third right was a lot stronger than industry because

00:41:49.040 for example the third right had its own security forces its own troops and it would and it took and it

00:41:54.640 took no nonsense and it took no nonsense from industry it just it's it told industry you will do this

00:42:00.960 and the industry did it and if the industry didn't do it then there would be problems but also they

00:42:05.760 focused on incentivizing things rather than laying down the letter of the law most of the time

00:42:12.480 one of the big things that we kind of bring up a lot with the third right was the fact that

00:42:18.240 um a lot of people tend to think the third right was some kind of you know state state capitalist thing

00:42:23.760 not really because the way the third right worked was every contract had a privatization clause

00:42:32.000 so everything it did there was always a way for the state to essentially uh

00:42:40.320 to sell that off to a private business so that the state wouldn't have to absorb the costs anymore

00:42:45.520 um one way to understand this in the context of what actually goes on during the 1930s

00:42:52.640 is that as we go on in the time period the third right's economy was originally designed to be

00:42:59.200 an autarchic um kind of economy that was it was basically designed to be a mercantile so the idea

00:43:07.840 being that you had the you had the for the four-year plan was designed to up the german about self-reliance

00:43:15.200 but also to invest a lot of money into the into industry into research and development all these

00:43:21.840 things so that the germans would then have products to sell to the world and therefore get there um 0.86

00:43:28.400 therefore therefore get their foreign currency balance back in order but also

00:43:32.400 to make money for the state and also to create a sustainable economy what then happens is ironically

00:43:40.160 the boycott of the third right which had been going on since 1933 and was sporadically was sporadically

00:43:46.240 still a problem up until the day of the day war was declared um was caught was had to be dealt with

00:43:52.800 so the third right did that by engaging in uh essentially it was split it split the jewish vote

00:43:59.840 with via via havara but also havara itself had massive financial benefit for the third right

00:44:05.120 because um all the money the 20th so the thousand the thousand uh palestinian pounds which

00:44:10.560 rushed about five thousand rice mark and the twenty thousand palestin and the twenty thousand

00:44:14.560 rice mark they're allowed to take so that's about twenty five thousand rice mark total um anything

00:44:19.040 above that the third right got and a lot and a part of that twenty twenty five thousand third

00:44:23.840 like also got in bought goods so the third right was engaging in quite intelligent

00:44:29.360 economics essentially it was changing the game it was not allowing international bank bankers to

00:44:35.920 control its economy but it what it wasn't doing was what lenin did so lenin when he seized power

00:44:40.480 declared all that debts null and void and then crashed the entire savior economy caused mass famine

00:44:45.440 death and you name it so rather than you know sort of just virtue sibling towards communists and

00:44:51.600 towards the left the third right took a very did a very different approach took a more measured

00:44:56.080 approach of let's hide off our economy from the international international sort of money markets

00:45:01.040 and all this kind of thing but we'll do it on in a gradual way so we won't crash our economy we won't

00:45:07.040 cause ourselves more problems than we need to so in this build-up to war there's a lot of

00:45:13.920 energy and time that is put into uh the economy it's it's creating an autark economy but it's creating an

00:45:20.960 economy that fundamentally it can function without too much outside without too much outside intervention

00:45:27.920 now one of the things that gets brought up here by some by people like adam twos in the wages of

00:45:32.720 destruction is things like the hostback document the hostback protocol now the problem with the hostback

00:45:37.920 protocol even if we credit it's genuine and there was a problem with that because it is a some it is a

00:45:43.760 an american true copy of a german true copy of of note of unauthenticated notes of a conference of

00:45:52.560 alleged conference david hitler by by colonel hostback who it's not a good piece of work it's just a

00:46:00.320 summary and we have while it's often credited as being genuine um i would be more in the lines of it could

00:46:06.880 possibly be genuine but we have to be careful with it and often here it's brought up that oh hostback

00:46:13.040 said that um third right needed to invade czechoslovakia in order to get in order to in order

00:46:18.480 to keep the keep this economy going the truth is it didn't yes it had a problem it had problems this

00:46:24.160 is true but this was not the point of the hostback memorandum the point of the hostback memorandum

00:46:29.840 was as a it was a war game essentially to work out what happens if italy turns against the if there's

00:46:37.520 a war with italy this is what they don't tell you about it because up to between 1934 and 1937

00:46:48.640 um the germans and the italians have been at loggerheads because of the um treatment the

00:46:55.200 italian treatment of the german the predominantly german province of trent in northern italy so

00:47:01.360 the they've been there have been a campaign of forced helenization there have been you know

00:47:06.000 that fascists beating up germans you name it it's been happening so the germans were preparing for a

00:47:12.240 war with italy over this and this is this is where the hostback memorandum comes from that they are

00:47:17.360 fundamentally saying okay well what what will happen if we if we have to go to war with italy what what

00:47:23.040 would be happening and one of the things that's brought up in it by by either hitler or hostback

00:47:28.000 is this idea that well while while we're fighting while we're fighting britain france and italy

00:47:33.680 in the west we should probably just we should probably just seize czechoslovakia because they 1.00

00:47:37.920 have they have a lot of they have a large german minority and they have um various different things

00:47:43.680 that we want like gold for example so the third reich essentially is also it is doing is doing normal

00:47:50.400 contingency planning and the difference from a lot of other states is that we see a lot more of the

00:47:56.480 the documentation of what the of what the germans were thinking about and you kind of see the same

00:48:01.360 thing in the spanish civil war where you have the hitler saying um the uh it would be nice for us if

00:48:06.560 franco didn't win the war um we didn't win the war and his point wasn't to say i don't support franco

00:48:12.880 what he's actually saying is in because it occurs i think in 37 or 38 is that the longer the spanish

00:48:18.000 civil war goes on the longer i is that there will not be a war against against germany in europe

00:48:24.560 because because the soviet union france and britain and italy are distracted

00:48:30.560 so it's all about context so we get the situation we have always build up to war and then we get the

00:48:37.120 war so eventually we have a situation where there's a war um the third reich is is in a good economic

00:48:43.760 position um but it's still far from being as autarky as it wants to be and but it's in a

00:48:50.000 position whereby it can fight the war and it does so very effectively and then we have of course we

00:48:55.920 have the arrival in france with the campaign of france the germans win there the germans win in

00:49:01.440 poland and we have a situation where the third reich dominates part of france and it also can

00:49:07.360 dominate all of poland poland is then split between various different entities um different

00:49:14.880 different groups and the germans began a policy of resettling uh germans from italy from the

00:49:21.760 trentine region and also from the east um into bits of poland and moving out poles but also this

00:49:28.960 comes into a lot of people's misunderstanding of what german racial policy were how germany

00:49:33.280 racial policy worked but basically they were moving they were classifying the polls by you

00:49:37.840 know if if a poll was considered to be a german origin they were offered full german rights and

00:49:42.400 citizenship without any qualification maximian and colbay would be an example of this

00:49:48.800 while alternatively the poll might be classed as someone who would be useful for manual labor

00:49:53.440 so they were kept in they were kept in the same area they were just going to be um they

00:49:57.680 so they would just keep it given that they're kept as laborers for cultural purposes for example

00:50:03.040 or they could be moved to a resettlement area for resettlement or they could be moved to a

00:50:09.680 concentration camp as some some were if you if you're associated with the resistance then you

00:50:14.720 would generally move to a concentration camp in any shape or form whereas you would also be removed to

00:50:20.640 a camp if you need medical treatment which is where some of the famous photos of i think it's uh magda

00:50:28.000 the no it's survived something kuoka um then the lady whose uh image was showed to us um in recent

00:50:37.920 years her she was actually moved to aschwitz for medical treatment and died there while being treated

00:50:43.520 by the germans as it happens so we get this kind of perspective where the germans are moving around a lot

00:50:50.640 of labor they are trying to utilize as much labor as they can they have they have a huge organization

00:50:56.000 tort which is basically the or the foreign element of the daf um operating in france where there's

00:51:02.640 large amounts of french workers who are working happily for the third reich in france uh building

00:51:08.000 submarine pens and all that kind of jazz but also they start moving people around they start to utilize

00:51:14.560 labor they start to say okay well if you're in a germanized it generally the areas could germanize

00:51:18.800 and not germanization we're going to move you but you know it's not going to be that we're going to

00:51:22.960 kill you it's just it's just we're moving you for because we want to create german zones and slavic

00:51:28.640 zones so so essentially we have a situation where the germans are doing the same thing they're doing 0.98

00:51:36.880 with the poles to the jews they are moving them oh and then they're moving them out they're moving 1.00

00:51:41.600 into ghettos as a short-term solution they then create a problem because the germans not thinking 1.00

00:51:47.760 about it have created a massive breeding ground for disease so now they have a massive disease problem

00:51:53.600 which is why the ghettos end up being so um closed off from the rest of society because they're they're 1.00

00:51:59.520 they're a mass problem but also the ghettos fundamentally were far more porous than most people

00:52:03.360 think of so the point is that a lot of the ghettos you have a very large interplay between the local

00:52:08.800 resistance the local partisan groups and the ghettos so you have like guns going in and out you have 0.97

00:52:16.480 contacts you have food you have you have large black markets in them and so on and so forth

00:52:22.480 so you have a situation where the third Reich is moving so it's basically over time realizes the

00:52:27.760 ghettos are a problem and they call the vonsee conference in late nine in early 1942 1.00

00:52:34.000 they call it because they want to they want to sort out this problem they've greater for themselves

00:52:38.560 so they if you read the vonsee minutes you'll see that they admit that their concept is they're going

00:52:42.640 to move all these jews out of ghettos into camps moving into camps for forced labor um hadrick famously 0.99

00:52:50.240 says um to to build roads in the east but it's often taken as being as genocidal comments he just

00:52:56.880 he does say it with a slight uh to the weak called the weak will die but the strong but the strong will

00:53:01.520 live but he also adds the corollary that they were that they are going to be um maybe the the resulting

00:53:07.200 jew is going to then become someone who you know is not necessarily as directed towards money and 0.52

00:53:13.680 speculation is used to hard work and maybe better for a future you know jewish state 0.85

00:53:19.760 which is always an interesting little uh thing to throw people on this

00:53:23.200 so essentially you have a situation where the third reich is engaging in uh concentrating labor

00:53:31.680 both polish um french and belgian dutch danish you name it um czech everyone um towards the ends and

00:53:40.160 you create these camp systems but as the war goes on there is a problem to do with how the um so the

00:53:48.560 problem that was this war goes on particularly for you from 1942 onwards the bombing start the western

00:53:55.760 cities are german cities where most of the um it can't mention the german heavy industry is so you'll

00:54:02.240 that's your cologne that's your dusseldorf that's your stuttgart that's you know you know all the big

00:54:07.520 cities of that area are the they're the heartland of german industry but they're getting bombed because

00:54:12.800 they're very much within range of they're very much within relatively short range of the of the RAF and USAF

00:54:18.560 so the germans move the industry east they follow what starling did they move it east but they move

00:54:22.720 it but rather than using it into uh using it moving into normal factories they often move it into camps

00:54:29.840 so they used jews as labor the same way that the soviet union was using gulag labor to do the same

00:54:35.920 thing to basically to boost their their food and our culture and their cultural industrial production

00:54:41.360 the germans used forced labor particularly of jews but also things like gypsies and rumani 0.97

00:54:48.560 so essentially you've got the germans who are germans are essentially using people

00:54:53.760 using like a very they're doing they're doing a very good policy all at once they are taking people

00:54:58.880 out of areas they're concentrating them in camps and they're waiting until the end of the war for a

00:55:02.800 solution and this the the entire purpose of that was to wait until such time as the war is done

00:55:10.880 before you can before you can do that which kind of comes into what general general plan aust was

00:55:16.560 and it's first of all we've got to remember it's a post-war recreation is literally what it is it's

00:55:23.680 based upon a couple of different sets of documents one of which is that one of which is an unnamed

00:55:28.160 comments on a plan called general general plan aust aka the green folder of going going as green folder

00:55:34.880 and also uh walter bats who was from uh originally from georgia he was a german from georgia uh he's

00:55:41.760 he's so called hunger plan the truth is what the what the germans are doing here is they're saying okay

00:55:47.760 how do we economically reorganize everything in the east as well as racially so what therefore what

00:55:52.960 they're saying is okay look we need to de-collectivize the east once we conquer it how do we do that well we

00:56:01.040 know what happens we know what happened when stalin collectivized the east you had the famines 0.98

00:56:06.240 repeatedly so we are we are expecting this is we're expecting that people are going to die

00:56:12.160 we can mitigate this but we we don't have we don't have a way to stop it

00:56:16.240 therefore we plan that we think only we think x number of people are going to die essentially

00:56:22.560 but in so doing we we are we are creating a solution for the future

00:56:26.720 we're not going to have a collectivized east we're going to have a a series of buffer states

00:56:33.040 we're going to have a series of uh possibly germans german um speaking states but also we're going to

00:56:37.760 have buffer states and homelands like for example one of the big things that the german foreign office

00:56:42.560 and german economic um ministry had in mind was an independent ukraine and possibly under german

00:56:49.760 leadership but nevertheless an independent ukraine why partially because of um it was a it was a way to

00:56:56.400 prevent stalin but also because it was a way to basically to it was a place they could move all

00:57:01.680 the ukrainians to and it was also a state that then you would be viable because it would produce

00:57:07.600 lots and lots of grain lots and lots of things and they could be able to uh have con to have

00:57:12.320 franchise contracts and also get some taxation or money out of such as such a state the same is

00:57:18.560 probably true of latvia estonia um lithuania to some degree you probably would have one for the

00:57:26.080 russians you'd have one for the poles so basically the germans were going around sifting 1.00

00:57:31.600 what i would call sifting the local peoples to find out who was germanic who wasn't the germanic

00:57:38.320 people would be given full german rights so the anyone who was judged to be like mixed would be to say

00:57:43.920 okay it's it's someone it's a russian person who is a mixed something or other but then but they have

00:57:50.320 some quantity of arian blood okay well then we'll we'll put them in the russian on in in the russian

00:57:56.720 sort of homeland bit or if they're polish they're not there was a potion they're german okay they're

00:58:01.920 just german or if they're polish and they're you know part they're they're polish they're not german 0.94

00:58:07.520 okay well we'll put them in the polish homeland and so and so forth that's how it worked 1.00

00:58:12.640 but how did the third right wanted to pay it all off that kind of comes into

00:58:16.560 a lot of how people think about it a lot of people say oh the third back to me was was falling apart

00:58:20.480 by 1943 1944 true but it was only falling apart because of the pressure of the war basically at

00:58:27.360 this point every economy but the u.s economy was falling apart so the soviet union had the soviet union

00:58:33.120 had been run by the nkvd it turned into its economy from 1941 onwards and continued to be run centrally

00:58:40.640 by the nkvd uh until 1946 by barrier so again we have essentially we have a centrally planned state

00:58:49.040 there which is which is basically functioning barely at the point basically the savi union

00:58:53.680 by 1942 is in the as it collapse point and is only saved by then lease i know there's a lot of people

00:58:59.360 who try and say that this is not true it is true the reason it's true is because they say oh it's only

00:59:04.640 x percent of you know was produced by the then lease true but look at what the lemme's gave the so

00:59:11.440 union most of its uh f it's air so it's um so it's uh aircraft fuel it gave most of the machine tools

00:59:19.680 it gave most it gives large amounts of large amounts of trucks get large amounts of little

00:59:24.080 vehicles it gave it gave it gives them tanks at a battle point in the war 1941 and so on and so forth

00:59:31.200 so you get a situation where the there was a lot of false comparisons so the british economy

00:59:41.520 from 1941 1942 is also at real collapse point it is being it's being propped up by this propped

00:59:49.280 up by the united states so essentially you have a situation where germany is it also in a in

00:59:55.760 difficulty because it only it doesn't have a sugar daddy so to speak whereas the united states where 0.96

01:00:01.520 the united states is basically propping up the economies of britain and new soviet union and

01:00:05.840 allowing them to release as many people as possible to the war effort whereas germany didn't have that

01:00:10.720 germany's germany's way of doing it was to use the people it had who is going to relocate to homelands

01:00:16.480 as forced labor so this is what we call this is this is why we get these big camps in the east because

01:00:21.760 they are industrial camps they're based around three hubs which is stood which is sort of which

01:00:26.720 is the big aircraft hub um is basically going to be a a big place to produce lots and lots of luft

01:00:33.600 offer aircraft to take back the skies and you had auschwitz which was a primarily just produced a vast 0.77

01:00:40.800 range of things and was possibly also the site of the german um enrichment plant for their nuclear for

01:00:45.840 their nuclear program also produced a lot of rubber and you've also got mount hausen in austria and

01:00:53.360 it's various different and always and it's basically building factories underneath underneath mountains

01:00:59.440 and there's all the sub camps and you've also got things like um my darn ink which is again it's based

01:01:06.560 upon larger construction and mining so that so a lot of my darnik is around mining so a lot of this

01:01:13.360 production is basically being run by poles and jews by 1943 944 to give you some perspective again 0.98

01:01:21.760 oscar schindler the famous person we talked about the first episode ever was um about 60 of his

01:01:27.600 workers were poles which you wouldn't know from the film and about 40 were jews but but both poles and

01:01:33.040 jews were treated extremely well they were given free health care they were given all these things that

01:01:38.000 were that were introduced only very very much later into the camp system proper and that often that was

01:01:44.640 too late so it gives you some idea of what was going on and how did the third reich plan to balance the

01:01:51.520 books because again this is what they say is that third reich was going to just collapse after war no the

01:01:56.480 third reich had a very clear plan for this in fact himmler had um gotten had basically ordered otto

01:02:02.640 ohlendorf who was a einsatzgruppe leader but also had a background in economics um to back to the

01:02:09.120 third reich to head a working group and they and they were just they were just they were talking about

01:02:13.600 and discussing how they were going to how they were going to manage the economy after the war and the

01:02:18.000 big thing that himmler had in his mind was he didn't want any of this what he could what he could

01:02:22.560 essentially plan long since he wanted a more market economy so essentially you had a lot so you have

01:02:28.960 this system whereby the third reich is operating in a war in a very structured way because it has to

01:02:35.280 because that's how wars work and even then it's not doing it as much as britain and the and the

01:02:40.560 soviet union was but then conversely we have a situation where people are blaming the third

01:02:47.760 reich and saying oh it's you know oh it's this state plan nonsense it's you know it's going to collapse

01:02:52.720 no it wasn't the only reason it starts to collapse it results to collapse economically in

01:02:56.800 late 1944 it's because it's losing the war and it's being bombed to oblivion by a thousand bomber

01:03:03.120 raids in the u.s so it gives you some idea of how that's working but also why we see what we see

01:03:09.440 essentially what what people are doing is looking at the economy like sort of mid to late 1944 when

01:03:15.680 cedric was produced more than it ever did uh and than it isn't ever than it ever did it was at record

01:03:20.640 production levels and it would put it went through in 1945 as well but conversely it's an it's an

01:03:26.480 economy that's really struggling because of the the amount of pressure it's under and the amount of

01:03:30.640 demands that are being put on it and then saying oh but this is this is their economy it was just

01:03:35.680 falling apart well yeah any economy would be falling apart in that situation because the soviet 1.00

01:03:40.000 unions and britain's was falling apart much much earlier the third reich only occurs much much later

01:03:45.440 and even the united states was struggling in some way in some ways to because of because of the way

01:03:51.520 because of the way because of how much it was having to give to the war effect and giving to other

01:03:55.040 people so again that that puts us in a very different situation of understanding how the

01:04:01.600 third reich is different but how was it going to balance the books well very simply the third reich

01:04:06.560 realized well like anyone does that in what they end the war if you lose the war you're screwed in

01:04:12.560 terms of in terms of economically because the third because remember this came about because

01:04:16.800 of world war one and the and all the thing all the um operations put on germany by the allies

01:04:25.200 but fundamentally the third right kind of plan of we're not going to force people to pay for money

01:04:29.680 they did force the french to pay them a certain amount of money during the during the occupation of

01:04:33.600 france so they are they had to reach the government pay them i don't know how much how many million

01:04:37.680 francs per day to pay for german forces german basic germans acting as police and all that stuff

01:04:45.440 but that was relatively minor compared to what to what they could have asked but conversely

01:04:52.640 a lot of what was going the the point was that they were going to say okay so we have conquered so

01:04:59.600 say in a hypothetical situation the jet germany agrees as truce with stalin and is basically

01:05:06.240 brest libtosk 2.0 which is one of the most likely scenarios for the end of the war

01:05:11.600 had the tehran conference not happened in 19 late 1943. so germany gets these states creates buffer

01:05:19.200 zones so it begins so all of a sudden germany has now acquired german government has now acquired huge

01:05:24.320 amounts of mines fields property and so on and so forth so they get this so so the third rank has to

01:05:30.560 begin to work out whose is whose now the now the agricultural lands relatively simple that belongs

01:05:36.400 to the local villages and can be ascertained relatively simply by so doing but it's more

01:05:43.200 difficult when it comes to factories run by soviet state concerns and also by things like mines and

01:05:48.800 natural resources and all this kind of thing but naturally they fall to the third they fall to the

01:05:54.160 the government the government that has them so the third right would then say okay uh we we know

01:06:00.320 we're in the lease and then they'll start putting you putting them up for bid for so for companies to

01:06:05.040 say okay uh we want you to mine this uranium mining in ukraine are you you know what you're

01:06:10.080 going to bid to do it or what you're going to bid to buy the rights or what are you going to bid

01:06:13.680 to run it as a franchise whatever it may be the third reich was saying okay we want you to

01:06:19.600 it's that if you if we win we're going to basically turn around and give you the opportunity to expand

01:06:26.720 your business to here and here and here some of these would have been ss firms the ss had its own

01:06:32.160 little sort of sub network of companies that was creating to run as a as an economic framework to fund

01:06:37.440 itself because one of the things that people don't know about the ss again is often the ss was short of

01:06:42.320 money because himmler ran it very much as a very much ran it as like a on a shoestring budget for

01:06:48.560 lack of a term most of the money went towards um essentially essentially funding the ruffin ss so

01:06:57.360 as you have a situation where we get a lot of we get the germans are going to sell off the mines 0.88

01:07:04.080 the mining rights the mineral rights the uh but the factory stock the rob probably some of the

01:07:10.000 rolling stock as well as any lands that the soviet government owned directly and there wasn't any

01:07:16.080 person again the third reich would be able to sell off to other individuals or companies depending

01:07:20.320 what they wanted and then you have a situation where fundamentally the third reich has just had

01:07:25.040 a massive fire sale of of a lot of a lot of property a lot of very valuable property at that

01:07:30.960 which then will which then gives it large amounts of income which will then go but to pay back its war

01:07:36.240 debt and thus at some point the war debt will be settled this link this then allows any nefo bills

01:07:42.880 that that people want to settle to be settled and also to um to to allow the third right to begin to

01:07:50.400 pursue pursue new policies to help itself like for example it would you already have a thing where

01:07:57.600 by 1942 1943 there is a um the abortion becomes a punishable by death sentence because precisely because

01:08:06.480 the germans are worried about um the amount of people who have to have died himlow is very keen 0.99

01:08:14.240 for um ss officers and troops to sire um new sons and daughters because of the amount of losses they're

01:08:21.520 taking and so on and so forth so there's all these programs that are being run in created and thought

01:08:27.120 about in the background for a post work for a post world war ii third right um victory but because of the

01:08:34.640 late 19th because of the operation progression and operation overlord hitting together in mid-1954

01:08:39.920 then the third reich re just just crumbles because it can't take both at the same time and it is in

01:08:48.000 a situation where it then is then is then forced to retreat and it it just the economy because it's in

01:08:55.440 such a retreat begins to fall apart because the soviets and the allies begin overrunning more and more

01:09:01.120 germans of the of the german industry behind it which is why the germans then do a second relocation

01:09:06.480 of a lot of industry towards what they call the alpine fortress which is like austria uh bits of

01:09:11.760 france but italy where they were the idea is they were going to held out hold out um from the uh the

01:09:18.480 allies and the soviets there so that's a long spin of me talking around the third rights economy

01:09:25.680 where it fits in in the build up to war the jewish question also a bit about the about general plan

01:09:31.760 ost such as such as we would call it and so i'd like to open the floor up to questions and concerns

01:09:38.080 and if not we can talk we can talk about the war and why the germans could have won the war

01:09:43.440 but we're going to get we're going to go from there

01:09:45.040 well call thank you for this morning so far we have acceptable frog coming up thank you acceptable frog

01:10:03.520 good morning

01:10:04.080 excellent

01:10:12.720 accessible you're not muted you know you haven't unmuted yourself oh sorry um yeah i didn't even

01:10:18.560 hear that you had uh brought me up as it were i uh there's that little lag when when you're first

01:10:24.080 brought up to the mic uh i think there's a delay of three or four seconds that suddenly disappears um

01:10:29.520 yeah i just thought i'd join to help bring some more attention to this excellent space some of my

01:10:33.280 my followers might might appear so do proceed sorry to hold you up

01:10:39.520 no problem tungsten

01:10:44.800 yes thank you carl for your um long enduring efforts in this if you would be so kind to take a moment i

01:10:52.800 think some of the listeners may not understand autarky i may be pronouncing wrong the the um kind of the

01:10:58.960 in nation uh measures that were taken so that people understand kind of more clearly what that

01:11:06.800 what that definition means i think some of the listeners might might benefit from that thank you

01:11:13.840 okay so autarky is an economic it's an economic political concept whereby basically the idea is that

01:11:21.360 that everything that can be um everything vital for everything that's vital is made is made or produced

01:11:29.200 within the states to the best of their ability this is not always possible like for example the uh a lot

01:11:35.520 of the tungsten ironically um that came from that came from the that came to the third right came from

01:11:41.680 portugal and spain but essentially the idea was that they that the germany would be self-sufficient

01:11:50.160 would be in the same way that the us the the id the ideal uh economy of the us and from the 1880s to

01:11:58.240 1910s was often viewed as self-sufficiency so essentially the idea was that you took like food

01:12:05.920 let's say so it's so it's but so the where they focused was things like steel iron uh coal because

01:12:12.080 that was the main that was the main fuel source uh oil if oil wasn't possible but they could but they

01:12:17.760 were trying to do that via um artificial means so this is where the famous ig fab and uh oil experiments

01:12:24.640 and their synthetic oil come from um you've got food the big thing so the third rock was very keen on

01:12:31.360 promoting farming so they often split up farms um so they often had so often you have great big estates

01:12:38.400 but you also had lots of small farms so the third rock often um was pro small farmers but realized that

01:12:44.960 he also needed it needed bulk so it didn't engage in too much splitting up of large estates um essentially

01:12:52.320 you have a situation where the third where germany is germany is trying to build as much as it can

01:12:58.560 with its own borders as much as possible hence it's right hence it wants to build up its own

01:13:03.040 manufacturing base it wants to build its own skill set it didn't like it wants to relies on no one

01:13:07.680 but itself this is the route of the of the hermann-gering enterprise that we talked about earlier

01:13:12.720 to which to utilize the low low-grade iron ore deposits in germany because germany had a problem

01:13:19.440 whereby a lot of its iron was shipped from northern sweden via norway into into it from there and as you

01:13:26.000 may all remember from world war ii uh winston churchill and the british had a lovely plan

01:13:31.280 called plan r4 whereby they were going to um invade uh they were going to they were going to unilaterally

01:13:37.680 invade um norway and sp and sweden and take control of them you can also deprive the third bike of its

01:13:43.760 iron ore which then became um a separate operation when that when the germans real germans essentially

01:13:49.520 realized what was going to happen and uh occupied norway and that was the art that was the origins of that

01:13:56.480 but the point is that when we're dealing with autarky it's having everything everything you need

01:14:01.840 within your borders so essentially it's kind of like building up it's kind of like if we were to

01:14:07.120 do if we're to let's stay in america it'd be like it'd be like bring all the manufacturing back to

01:14:12.160 the to the to the rust belt and reopening a lot of mines this kind of thing that's basically what

01:14:20.800 autarky would be it's basically america it's basically american products for american people

01:14:25.600 and american jobs for um for the for the benefits of the american people in the american economy as

01:14:32.240 well as the american american security that's the entire concept of water okay in the american context

01:14:37.680 the same as in germany that's how it worked and the way that they did that was by very simply removing

01:14:44.400 subversives from positions of power than the economy by what they call the arian paragraph so that was

01:14:50.640 that allowed so that prevented american companies also of german companies being put being in foreign

01:14:56.560 hands or being owned by foreigners or having directors in the board which then prevented the uh the issues

01:15:02.640 to do with uh people you know jews trying to influence the economy that way or other people who have

01:15:08.720 had ill intent doing the same thing which is something we could learn from in america today i think

01:15:14.400 in that if we did you dies the american economy and de mexicanized it um yes it would be painful in

01:15:21.840 the short term much as it was in germany but all of a sudden within probably months weeks there would

01:15:27.760 be massive economic advantages because all of a sudden all that creativity would be unleashed

01:15:34.400 and also a lot of people would go who people who've been stuck in the same jobs for a long time

01:15:39.680 or had the opportunity would be given the opportunity to do things and make real

01:15:43.680 successes of their lives without being kicked down within the corporate world if that all makes sense

01:15:55.360 yes thank you for that um fine tuning on and i i really appreciate you correlating that to

01:16:02.000 the past of uh america and the prospective future um if i may i i think something else i would like to

01:16:09.760 talk about and maybe you could also elucidate is is the scale so one of the things we saw with with

01:16:16.080 germany is the scale they were left with kind of made that very difficult for them i've obviously i'm an

01:16:23.440 american by my dialect and i wanted to speak to the audience and say hey i think we still have the scale

01:16:29.600 even within the contiguous parameters of america that we could do this not to say we wouldn't have any uh

01:16:36.480 international trade but if we could do use these measures it would certainly put us right on the

01:16:40.560 back track on the on the correct track thank you i would agree because fundamentally that the united

01:16:47.280 states is a and i wouldn't say unique but pretty close to being unique in that it has pretty much

01:16:54.560 everything it could ever need within it within its own borders it has pretty much every mineral it needs

01:16:59.600 it has as oil it has coal it has uh huge amounts of farmland it's got huge amounts of different kind

01:17:07.680 of things but different kinds of um products it could products it just has um it has large it has large um

01:17:16.960 large seaboard it has it has everything everything you could possibly need in a in a state in an autonomous

01:17:23.680 state is pretty much in america canada is very similar europe europe is where it's actually a lot harder

01:17:29.440 if anything that the experiment the experience of germany in 33 to 39 or really 45 tells us that

01:17:38.960 you can create an autarctic state really quite quickly and it's not that you don't need international

01:17:44.000 trade it's just that you don't leave yourself vulnerable to what international trade can do

01:17:48.160 because as we've seen by when when reagan dropped or dropped a lot of the um the barriers to it what's

01:17:55.280 happened is the companies are just hollowed out they've they've hollowed out the um of the flight

01:18:00.320 they've followed the flight of the states a lot of a lot of places now like cnc machinists are often 1.00

01:18:05.760 brought up that they're often dying out that people are crying out for them but people aren't going into

01:18:10.080 it and it's all the work is going to china they're bringing in indians to the job cheaply this is because 0.93

01:18:15.600 of the nature of capitalism itself in some respects because capitalism a lot of capitalists are their

01:18:22.720 motivation is monetary hence why we need to be you have to have guardrails because otherwise

01:18:29.360 you get a race to the bottom it's actually something that libertarians have recognized

01:18:33.760 that fundamentally if you unleash the market too much unfortunately it res it results in what they

01:18:40.400 call corporatism cronyism predatory like predatory practices everything that doesn't benefit the

01:18:46.800 donation just occurs and unless you have a state strong enough to deal with it you have you since

01:18:56.160 you're storing up problems the future which is now happening in america we we now have a spiraling

01:19:00.960 housing crisis we have a massive um uh cost of living crisis we've got people out people enough

01:19:07.760 people unable to afford basic health care we've got healthcare companies acting acting like they don't

01:19:14.640 acting against their own interests you've got a an economy that prioritizes um basically

01:19:22.160 speculation rather than than producing something the old what goebbels like goebbels once called

01:19:28.000 the difference between productive capital and speculative capital or stock exchange capital

01:19:32.240 so that carl would you take a question oh no that wouldn't be inappropriate um in your experience

01:19:37.920 with discussing these matters with people who have interest in and concerns with the economy

01:19:42.160 um in in such cases as they're not initially on board with you or perfectly aligned with you

01:19:47.680 um i don't want to put words in your mouth but it's kind of the easiest way to phrase the question

01:19:52.000 um don't you generally feel that it's easier to meet someone who has a basic love of the free market

01:19:58.560 in in this in the sense that they they recognize the harmony between its sort of psychological benefits and

01:20:04.240 its economic benefits and how state intervention is generally a horrible disastrous thing at least historically

01:20:10.000 and then you want them to sort of generally come around to the idea of adding guardrails

01:20:14.480 it's much nicer to meet those people rather than people who have this initial love of state intervention

01:20:20.880 and want to get their hands into every aspect of the economy would that be a sort of fair uh

01:20:26.800 way to paraphrase things and there's a follow-up if time permits that's fine but i think i think

01:20:32.320 i think it's both ways if i'm honest acceptable i think there's a lot of people who

01:20:36.160 do when you explain because a lot of people have realized that there is that as much as people want

01:20:42.400 to praise capitalism there's that capitalism comes with its own unique challenges and that

01:20:48.000 this kind of idea that capitalism that or it's like that gordon gecko greed is good thing doesn't work

01:20:54.080 and there is i think both sides how i think you had to pitch to both sides

01:20:59.760 with the free with the people who love the free market and the enterprise you have to pitch it you

01:21:03.600 have to say look the actual economy isn't uh it isn't microsoft it isn't google it isn't um it

01:21:10.400 isn't the big companies it's it's the smith the small medium enterprises so any government which

01:21:18.240 focuses on the small medium enterprises and making their lives easier that is fundamentally pro-free

01:21:24.640 market whereas the quote-unquote pro-free market groups that we've got now um are often focused on

01:21:32.160 corporatism they're often they're often cronies of corporations so rather than being pretty free

01:21:37.680 market what they're actually doing is that they are introducing barriers to the free market and

01:21:42.800 basically engaging in what the germans the germans refer to as cartel behavior so essentially they're

01:21:49.040 that's why you have the forced law yeah the law that required the germans could intervene with the

01:21:54.240 cartels either forcing them or breaking them up precisely because there's that that nature carol

01:22:00.800 i i absolutely share your concerns there especially with crony capitalism and i fully acknowledge

01:22:05.360 some sorts of guardrails that need to be in place there and there's a big gap in the in the wider

01:22:09.920 conversation about that um it's the i would hope the aim is the the question we ask is what's the

01:22:16.720 minimum number of such interventions and guardrails rather than just sort of lavishing them on and

01:22:21.360 you know in the way that the european union seems to have done i think the i think you have the i

01:22:26.720 think you i think you you you want you want the minimum number of goggles i think the third right

01:22:30.880 often as a criticism of it it often had a tendency to be bureaucratic because of the nature of work

01:22:38.720 back then but also because of the way that the german civil service tended to work generally speaking

01:22:44.480 so i think that now we need less guardrails than we did before but i think we need a lot more guardrails

01:22:52.000 and a lot than people are often very comfortable with because of that very thing i was talking

01:22:57.440 about with that that's that companies and ceos often think they know better and they often try and

01:23:04.000 subvert the state to try and get their profits back up or you know whatever reason and this is why um

01:23:13.040 the chinese have actually had quite a clever way of dealing with this which is by basically inducing certain 1.00

01:23:18.560 having chinese representatives on boards for example to say governments in the boards to say well you

01:23:24.800 know this is the state's view you know you need to take please take this into account when you are

01:23:30.320 actually thinking about this though our view is that you need to be you need to be doing x for the

01:23:34.800 interest of china or in this case in the united states or britain or germany or whatever so that

01:23:41.280 the state's voice is heard when it's dealing with these large corporations because large corporations

01:23:46.080 have a tendency to do that small corporations i think you can just let you can pretty much you

01:23:50.160 can small smees you can pretty much let run you can let them do what they need to do as long as they

01:23:55.680 don't screw customers over then that's totally fine that they're going to do what they're going to do and

01:24:00.080 they're going to innovate which is what you want you want the always smees uh kind of cycling through at

01:24:05.120 the bottom and you want some of that coming to the top but also you want to keep kind of a lid on that

01:24:10.960 which is why they introduced that stock market requirement to stop people going to the stock market as

01:24:15.920 they do now raising two million and then being run into the ground by a large corporation or a hedge

01:24:22.400 fund because that's essentially what was going on before um 33 in germany you would have these

01:24:30.640 companies to take over run them in people run into the ground and then run out with pension fund

01:24:36.080 if you know if you want a british example uh uh so what's it british uh bhs and sir philip green

01:24:43.280 and looted looted all the um uh uh ran off with that and uh he's never been there's never isn't

01:24:51.360 they haven't got it out of them so it ran off with like 800 million something of that order

01:24:55.760 um so that's what you have the guardrails for but also fundamentally it's about having tacit as

01:25:03.760 as having sort of subtle subtle persuasion as well a good example would be like de sterma and uh

01:25:10.800 de schwosco so the ss paper and de sterma being striker's paper both had extensive sections

01:25:17.760 um where they would call out so people would write in and say okay my um i've you know i've i've i've

01:25:24.960 uh i've i've bought a coffee maker from this company in a strip guy um this company has screwed me over

01:25:32.480 for this has screwed me over for this coffee maker i can't get a refund and um basically i'm i've been

01:25:39.200 left out of pocket and i can't afford to buy a new one because this company has screwed me over so what

01:25:44.560 they would do is they publicize the offending companies a letter and any research they've done

01:25:51.040 as a way to actually say to the company well we're now going to give you bad publicity because of

01:25:55.200 your behavior correct your behavior or we will do something about it so that's what i mean by this

01:26:02.400 that's because of subtle pressure to say well you know don't play ball within play ball within the

01:26:08.640 guardrails if you don't we have we have various options to pursue but it's not like we're going to

01:26:13.760 send we're not going to send like a striper to your door and um and and haul you out because you 0.99

01:26:18.640 because you cheat someone out of a coffee maker but we will deal with it in some other way if you

01:26:23.440 understand if that makes any sense that sounds perfectly reasonable and very agreeable um one

01:26:28.800 of the guardrails which is conspicuously absent in the case of the form of capitalism has taken in the

01:26:33.440 west generally is guarding against um racial concerns racial conflict and not only has there's been a

01:26:40.480 failure to guard against that but the very harm has been presented as a desirable thing and forced into

01:26:46.000 economic situations so clearly you know there are there are gaps with capitalism i fully acknowledge

01:26:50.640 that it's just that what i worry happens sometimes is um it's like people end up blaming their liver

01:26:57.440 for not performing the job of their heart there are some things that cannot be expected of capitalism

01:27:02.560 and i don't know what you think carl about that you know conceptually to some extent separating

01:27:06.640 economic and political issues with that you know with that in mind i think i think this i think

01:27:13.520 the way you have to view it is that the economy should serve the state not the state of the economy

01:27:18.880 which is what i mean by i mean by that basically the the the economy has to be run for asked has to

01:27:24.960 run for the good of the of the of the general state of the general people but that's really where a lot

01:27:32.240 of the problems have come in because basically basically the the tail the tail often and in western

01:27:37.920 countries the tail often ends up whacking the dog it did in the british empire too because often the

01:27:42.480 um british empire run up british empire empire run at a loss because basically the um the companies

01:27:47.920 would come in and they would they would strip they would strip the british exchequer indirectly

01:27:53.280 doing the same thing so this is where you have to have that bit of you have to have teeth

01:27:57.280 what you're doing but at the same time you need to use the teeth sparingly so i think when we're

01:28:02.560 looking at it we need to bear in mind that when we've got companies who when when is that when

01:28:10.320 we should encourage companies to innovate we should encourage companies to produce good quality products

01:28:16.160 and good quality services but conversely the flip side of that is with all that state with all the

01:28:23.040 help and all the guidance and all the you know the contracts the state by giving that creating by the

01:28:29.040 state by using state contracts and demands and economics that you fundamentally create

01:28:34.640 you're creating a situation where um this where companies companies benefit from cooperating with

01:28:41.520 the state so they they make they make lots of money they get as we kind of learned from the third

01:28:47.200 right period they get preferential allocations of resources if there is any rationing they get preferential

01:28:53.520 prices and treatment it's the standard corporation corporate side of things in that regard

01:28:59.040 but in so doing you you create a situation where people want to innovate they want to get into

01:29:06.080 that realm arena and they want to win funding and this is really at the heart of what works in the

01:29:12.880 american system but also what fails the american system because there isn't the guard rails and every

01:29:17.520 and because there's so many lobby groups and without that if you remove the lobbying you remove all that

01:29:23.280 kind of stuff generally speaking economies work quite well um there are some exceptions to that rule in

01:29:30.080 that the free market i'm not in time not convinced works particularly well in healthcare i think it

01:29:35.520 does to a degree but i also think it doesn't i think it's i think fundamentally the state has to play a

01:29:40.240 role there but how it plays a role is is to be is to be debated the germans used a insurance system uh the nhs

01:29:49.680 system that britain created clearly doesn't work um and the u.s system such as it is clearly doesn't work

01:29:56.240 either because it basically leaves too many people unable to work and contribute in a given society

01:30:02.320 so we need to find i we need to find an alternative there but conversely i don't i think we need to think

01:30:08.480 about in terms of where we want to where we want to have those as i say where we want to have those guardrails

01:30:16.080 but also i think what kind of a state do we want do we want we we're never going to get eternal growth

01:30:22.560 because there isn't eternal there is there isn't there isn't infinite resources thus we need to

01:30:27.680 think about okay how do we create a sustainable state how to get a state that is okay it's not

01:30:33.360 it's not going to be it's not going to be like you know boom it's not going to be boom bust all the time

01:30:38.080 it's going to be more stable and we're going to be able and we're going to be able to trend up like

01:30:42.320 trend upwards in the long term rather than just you know shoot upwards shoot down again shoot up

01:30:47.200 shoot down and all that kind of thing that fundamentally destabilizes an economy it destabilizes

01:30:52.800 the state it destroys lives and it's not good and a big part of that to me is reintroducing the warrior

01:31:00.960 spirit in this element because people often forget that one of the big drivers for any kind of innovation

01:31:06.560 is the military because if we have a military which is which is which is heavily funded and well run

01:31:15.600 and is used to pursue um our interests around the world i mean good of the day is is it's is if if

01:31:24.000 history is a conflict between nations and peoples then there is there is a war of resources and let's

01:31:29.360 be honest even in united states even in autarky we are going to have some things we can't get easily so

01:31:35.600 we're going to have to have a military able to take on people in order to get some of those resources

01:31:41.040 that we will need to create best life for our people as well as defend ourselves fundamentally from

01:31:47.440 other peoples who are going to try and steal our resources for themselves so if we do that and we

01:31:54.000 and we plow in our innovation that way and then we just and then we put and then we use that to

01:32:00.400 re-discipline the economy re-discipline society and create basically what i kind of i guess the best

01:32:09.360 comparison would be a new sparta where you have a state which is which where you have like we have

01:32:15.040 like a free market operating within guard a free market operating within guard rails in the country

01:32:20.560 but it's insulated from the outside it's largely insulated from the outside it trades with the outside

01:32:24.880 substantially but also it's backed by a by a very very powerful iron fist that's sparingly used but

01:32:34.240 is there nevertheless to be used if there if the interests of the nation are threatened by other

01:32:41.840 races other groups which is the root many respects of uh where the empires came from but fundamentally

01:32:49.200 it's if think of it this way if we had an if we had a fourth right in america today

01:32:55.120 one of the things that would obviously have to happen is we is that we would have to go to

01:32:58.720 south africa we'd have to send the us military not to the middle east but south africa to go and sort

01:33:05.040 out the sort out what's going on there to stop the boars being persecuted or bring the boars back to the

01:33:09.760 united states or eject the government or whatever it is because that is part of our duty to our people

01:33:16.400 the third right had the same problem they had a large diaspora in the soviet union in eastern europe

01:33:21.680 in southern europe and us and it engaged accordingly to defend its own interests but ruth but but they

01:33:29.840 didn't they wouldn't risk they wouldn't risk the population of the country for the minority and unless 1.00

01:33:36.640 it was absolutely necessary i guess we'll be aware of putting it

01:33:43.040 carl thank you for such a a wonderful comprehensive response there's nothing you've said with which i

01:33:47.040 can disagree with there um to take the the discussion fully back on topic i have a follow-up on the

01:33:53.040 the tweet of the subject of the space um with respect to the general plan os the uh the os plan i some

01:33:59.440 years ago while i was first sort of getting to grips with um second world war revision revisionism

01:34:04.960 revisionist history um having conversations with all the hype with ryan folk on the topic um i also

01:34:10.880 spoke to a polish lawyer at the time and i confronted him on what what i encountered specifically that

01:34:17.600 it seemed that hitler didn't seem to really be enthusiastically opposing himself to all polish 0.93

01:34:22.240 people who he wanted to destroy um whom uh but rather you know rather modest requirements you

01:34:29.920 know access to trade routes through gdansk and so on and um you know the retort from my friend at the

01:34:35.200 time this polish lawyer was well what about the os plan um and you know he confronted me with what

01:34:40.880 he believed to be hitler's declared plan as such and i took this back to ryan at the time and he said

01:34:46.160 you know well big if true um but from what i understand the david irving kind of angle on that

01:34:51.440 you know is well we're still waiting for some you know credible documentary evidence of that now if

01:34:56.400 anyone has encountered such a document that's going to have been you carl so i just thought i'd i'd put

01:35:01.360 that to you to see what you have to say okay well general plan ost i have a kind of spec about is a

01:35:08.240 post-war recreation it is not a actual plan it's a net it's derived from a uh commentary from a

01:35:15.760 german economist an unnamed german economist's commentary on a that would that has been

01:35:21.600 preserved or it was applied to some other document which mentions the existence of something called

01:35:27.040 general plan ost but general plan ost such as it is just to recreate it's a post-war recreation

01:35:31.600 primarily in nuremberg it was justified the war that's the point of it um but the point is that

01:35:40.560 when we have that there isn't there isn't any concrete documentation what you've actually got is

01:35:44.880 is it can it comprises of that um that reply which is discussing some of the film what needs to

01:35:51.520 happen or projected things which is somewhat dubious but then you've got uh back to hunger plan and people

01:35:58.400 say oh that's part of the unplanet os well yeah it probably probably would have been but it's

01:36:02.960 fundamentally it's a planning document for how for what is going to happen once the soviet once the

01:36:09.120 third wife is victorious and has to account has to now run a basically most of the most of the former 1.00

01:36:16.320 soviet union so basically saying okay there's going to be there's going to be let's get we know from

01:36:23.840 the 30 from the third from 32 31 to 33 that when we engage in de-collectivization we are going to

01:36:32.400 probably end up um killing people because there will be food shortages there will be fights there

01:36:39.920 will be people killing each other we know this so we're going to we're going to plan accordingly which

01:36:45.680 is standard it's standard thing to do is in any situation any government has plans for what happens

01:36:52.160 if if i need to do this what happens and okay the projected loss count is this what we get for general

01:36:59.760 plan asks is this it's kind of it is taking a complete out of context what it is and said okay

01:37:04.800 this is the general plan they're going to starve half a third of the population and rush to death 0.99

01:37:09.680 it's a bit like the um hitler was going to hit was hitler was going to level um moscow and uh

01:37:17.360 leningrad claims it comes from one source which is franz halder's diary and it's just hitler

01:37:23.280 speaking off the cuff and saying things hitler said said something about paris i mean twice actually

01:37:28.720 because it happens um and we have um we have claims for so again it's it's about putting things

01:37:35.200 in their context not reading it as one thing this is what and this is what back is doing back is simply

01:37:40.480 just planning for the future of what is going to happen to the soviet union post-stalin and what that

01:37:46.160 means that doesn't mean the germans are going to exterminate whatever people that's not the plan you can

01:37:52.560 kind of see it when i was kind of talking about um uh uh i can't i can't pronounce the first name but

01:37:58.800 something says i work worker from 1942-1943 who was kicked out of who was so he was deported from um

01:38:07.680 what was is any pressure as a pole and she was classified for auschwitz and then the polls claimed that 0.62

01:38:14.800 she was uh that she that she was merged in aschwitz by a phenol injection the truth is that's nothing

01:38:21.120 that the germans were using phenol because well because she was incredibly ill she was actually

01:38:26.480 had basically a wasting disease and it was one of the ways of treating the muscle spasms that were

01:38:30.640 associated with it and she was moved to aschwitz not because she was potentially because she was a

01:38:36.160 subversive it's possible but it's also possible that she was actually sent there because auschwitz had some

01:38:40.720 of the best medical care in uh the third reich because it was going to be an ss village in ss town

01:38:46.800 with apartments for heinrich himmler and some of the physicians there were some of the best in the

01:38:51.120 third right you've got to remember that mengele um people don't usually know this about him but he had

01:38:55.520 he was a he was one of the best most um promising uh scientists in the third reich he had a md

01:39:04.000 but he also he'd also been a medical doctor on the eastern front served with the libschandata was uh was

01:39:10.080 a uh multi of war a multi decorated officer uh was in auschwitz because he'd been heavily wounded

01:39:18.160 but he also had a phd in anthropology which he pursued at the university of berlin which was of

01:39:22.800 course the prized university of the third reich um and he was very much considered to be one of the

01:39:28.480 stars of the upcoming ss um as his academia so they sent them to there because precisely because

01:39:36.800 there was a lot of help so a lot of in doing that one things that i've encountered was really quite

01:39:43.600 useful was this classification system for how they're doing with the pulse of like for example

01:39:48.480 one was if you're german you one was for germanization you were german one was um for a kinder

01:39:54.240 for a kinder you were you were sending the kinder transport to a kinder camp to kinderlagen so basically

01:39:59.680 you were you were a child the third reich said well okay we don't have a problem with you you're

01:40:03.200 you're a child we understand we'll send you to a children's camp like they had in auschwitz they also 0.76

01:40:07.840 had for example he was they were sent people to to work on the farm people who kept back to work

01:40:13.840 agriculture labor other people were sent to work camps and so on and so forth so you have this you

01:40:19.200 have the system where they they are basically repopulating and reorganizing eastern europe in the same

01:40:25.200 way that in many respects the balkans was was they were they tried to in the balkans with the with

01:40:30.960 coratia they tried to create serbia they tried to create other states to act as these um kind of

01:40:37.920 ethnos these little ethno states for the people to go into and then they would sort themselves out 0.75

01:40:43.440 the german policy was very frequently just to allow people to um sort themselves out and to allow

01:40:51.600 national groups to um have self-determination to some degree which is really um it's it's really quite

01:40:58.240 sad and people bring up things something like general plan os which is everyone treats it as

01:41:02.720 if it's something like i have to say in fact it's a plan we think existed i think it's reasonable that

01:41:07.040 it existed we don't know the details of it we know its name we know that in the the germans thought

01:41:13.920 there was going to be a lot of death in the east during during the post-war years in the same way that

01:41:18.640 the post-war partition in india was basically a disaster because of you know the groups basically

01:41:24.400 end up fighting each other rather than cooperating to create to create the new world so that's

01:41:29.920 essentially what you've got it's not a it's not a genocidal plan it's just a it's a planning document

01:41:35.680 and that's what when someone says that i just say well where's the where's the documentation behind

01:41:40.480 it really because it's just you've got two things none of which are point none of which points your

01:41:45.440 conclusion unless you want to read uh unless you read massively unless you read massive intent into them

01:41:50.640 which is basically the general plan os miss tears os myth is sorry well carl thank you very much

01:41:56.720 that's reinforced what i've come to hear and learn and discover over the years since first sort of

01:42:01.600 encountering that uh that pushback so that's all very good to hear and i hope that's been instructive

01:42:06.400 for some of the other listeners in the space um a little white pill that i failed to drop in earlier

01:42:10.880 with respect to economics is um although even you know fans of capitalism uh generally quite able to

01:42:19.280 identify you know where it where it needs some guardrails um once you have something like racial

01:42:25.760 nationalism in place as far as i'm able to ascertain from the economic theory and historical data and so

01:42:31.600 on and just from raw statistics of looking at demographics and populations and how money is spent

01:42:37.200 if we just had a nation of white people pretty much almost any economic system is basically going to 0.97

01:42:42.480 do pretty well you have to really go out your way to screw things up and even at the level of

01:42:47.680 identifying crony capitalism and and the capture of large institutions even that i think generally

01:42:54.560 speaking that's racial aliens who have wormed their way into your economy at a level of ownership and

01:42:59.360 control so once again that in itself would be addressed i think substantially with this

01:43:03.600 you know racial nationalist situation being recaptured being you know rekindled um so that's

01:43:10.160 some sort of white pill i suppose if you think that's fair comment carl i don't know i would never

01:43:14.080 dare put words in your mouth but i i hope that doesn't strike your ear too uncomfortably

01:43:23.200 i think it's true sorry i think fundamentally it's you have this this is where this is where um

01:43:29.680 the marxist terminology is quite useful because the marxist think in terms of what they call base and

01:43:33.760 superstructure so they think okay well what is that so they say economics is the base everything else is

01:43:39.040 superstructure so the superstructure being everything is built on the space whereas we're saying no the

01:43:45.920 base is biology if biology and therefore race thus if we build everything on top of that then we are

01:43:53.680 going to get good results we're not going you could build a communist state in inside in a white country 0.91

01:43:59.840 and it would still function a thousand times better than that communist state would function in a black 0.83

01:44:04.400 country or a mexican country or a chinese country it's just that's how it works you know i've actually

01:44:10.880 had to stop myself in conversations before when i found that jumping out my mouth the base and i've

01:44:15.440 sort of thought oh suddenly i'm sounding like a marxist but yes it literally is that a biological base for

01:44:20.640 for an economy absolutely because this is why you've now got if you've been acceptable there's been a rise

01:44:25.760 in what they call bioeconomics so people um are beginning to talk about this they're beginning to

01:44:31.680 realize that one of the fundamental problems that any economy has is its human capital and the

01:44:36.560 assumption that a human being is an instant interchangeable unit dependent or independent

01:44:42.160 of the biology of the human is simply wrong so if you have what they what they what they have the

01:44:48.560 superior human capital you know whatever then you create a better economy just by didn't of that

01:44:56.400 regardless whatever economy looks like it's going to be better just because of that

01:45:00.400 yes yeah you should notice all the hype ryan folk his bio says uh mediocre human capital 1.00

01:45:09.440 it's a good plan words but yeah that's essentially it it's i mean it's it's whenever we regard

01:45:15.600 national socialism as being uh especially to me is it's any system that um puts race first that's the

01:45:25.280 essence of what it is i think now socialism has many faces i think there's a lot of different

01:45:29.680 ways you can take national socialism um but it's any system that puts race and nation before everything

01:45:36.720 else and it's the basis for everything that is what defines it it's not necessarily one economic

01:45:43.040 system or one political system because the third right had a lot of different theories about what was

01:45:48.160 going to happen if you want to if you want to be technical goebbels was a guild socialist uh rosenberg

01:45:53.280 rosenberg wanted a um a racial senate uh hitler obviously was very keen on a um was it right on 0.88

01:46:00.320 field principle the leadership principle whereas someone like himmler was very keen on a racial

01:46:06.160 aristocracy and links to them you know back to the land and all this kind of stuff whereas you so it's

01:46:12.160 not like there was one opinion lots of these people had very different ideas about how to go about this

01:46:17.840 about what you'd like to do but they combined everything and they created a beautiful country

01:46:23.120 that unfortunately was crushed by the forces of international communism and international and the

01:46:28.320 stock exchange people in new york sadly so essentially that's it that's that's the third

01:46:35.120 black economy that's where it fits within the broader context of third black history and also world

01:46:40.560 war ii history as well as why we get things like the concentration camps why we get them you know the

01:46:45.760 the forced labor why we get all the things to happen and then also what you know what goes on

01:46:52.560 with some of these things that like for example you know um why what what the hospital memorandum

01:46:58.800 is protocol you know how it fits in with you with the so-called general plan east and that kind of

01:47:04.560 thing so we get a situation where we actually understand that the third black was not some like

01:47:09.200 lunatic regime but rather a quite intelligent government operating as best it could in a

01:47:15.280 in a series of very difficult situations that often were not of its own making but okay it was kind of

01:47:20.880 forced into and essentially it's a it's a state i think we can learn a lot from i think there's a

01:47:26.080 lot within that period that we can apply today in america but also i think there's a lot there we can we

01:47:32.240 can say well they tried that it didn't work very well but we also think okay you know it's of it to

01:47:39.120 some extent is of its time we have different we have slightly different problems we have our problems

01:47:44.720 are both similar yet but yet different we need to learn from that but also we don't we don't need

01:47:50.480 to be enslaved to it so we don't need necessarily to think okay you know we have to have a forced

01:47:56.800 cartelization law we don't necessarily need that but we need to think in terms of what do we need what

01:48:03.280 actually works what doesn't work what benefits our people and stops you know capitalism doing

01:48:10.880 what it inherently tends to do without losing the benefit of capitalism i think that's the way to put

01:48:18.240 it so with that i think mythos we're going to close we're going to close out and uh just have um any

01:48:25.520 any last questions or thoughts before we hand over no i see uh paladin there um we'll get him up

01:48:34.720 thank you carl again appreciate you and everything you do here thanks to uh acceptable frog and tungsten

01:48:41.120 tungsten uh has one more question while we uh do the change over here looks like go ahead tungsten

01:48:47.520 yeah i i apologize if you had answers i was away um in regards to the stock market can can you speak to

01:48:55.280 how to um handle the situation that we have today today in order to make it uh more preferable going

01:49:04.640 forward well if you put my personal view straight to third rights um third right did it by basically

01:49:13.520 reducing the amount of p amount of companies that could be on the stock exchange and i think that's

01:49:18.080 actually a very sensible way of doing it so you basically say okay well if you if you aren't up to

01:49:23.440 a certain if your capital requirements aren't you mean that you're a really big company um well you

01:49:28.880 shouldn't be on the stock exchange period and you basically drop all these companies out of stock

01:49:33.280 exchange and you force them to start operating as they did when they were good and they were operating

01:49:39.760 in i would say more that their interest rather than the shareholders interest like the term um how you do

01:49:46.320 it today would be you would have to do something like that but you'd also have to um you'd you'd have to

01:49:52.000 fundamentally decouple a lot of the a lot of economic behavior from the stock market but also you'd have

01:49:58.400 to do two things at once you need to uh reduce the impact of corporations you need to basically get

01:50:04.480 rid of corporate lobbying you need to and that's not hard you just you just outlaw you do you simply

01:50:10.880 outlaw it or you put it into with some kind of uh sort of an irregularity framework or as we ask

01:50:18.400 and you need to essentially with the smees you need to give you need to get rid of a lot of red tape

01:50:24.720 allow the average small company small medium enterprise to operate as much as freely as possible

01:50:32.560 and with minimum restrictions with the only restriction being that you are owned by arians

01:50:37.120 you're owned by our people um you're not you're not owned by jews blacks nons whatever that's no so there 0.79

01:50:43.680 can be none there can be no ownership of that but then in order for that you then you then also

01:50:48.640 gain and then you certainly you start using the government's positions as power to basically bring

01:50:55.360 the stock market back into line by taking out by taking out the nons and all the you know the hedge

01:50:59.520 funds and all this kind of stuff you remove part of the funding model of a lot of companies but in

01:51:08.320 so doing you push back on them and you say okay you need to start funding your expansion

01:51:13.120 out of your profits so rather than giving your profits to the shareholders and dividends and

01:51:19.280 all this kind of thing and doing things short-term behavior you start thinking long term and then we

01:51:24.160 will in so doing we'll help you but also one of the things that you have to do in order to help

01:51:28.400 yourself with the stock market is you need to start confiscations it sounds very bad to an American

01:51:32.320 to an American ear but the truth is is that people like Vivek Rameswamy have conned the US

01:51:39.840 taxpayers out of huge amounts of money as well as the American people and companies have a lot of

01:51:45.760 this money so we should not be unadverse to basically put basically holding them and holding them

01:51:54.560 putting them into account um stripping them of all their wealth using that wealth to help us fund and

01:52:00.320 restructure our economy and our stock markets and this kind of thing to make them make to make them

01:52:05.360 difficult for other and not other peoples and countries to subvert and non to attack 0.57

01:52:12.240 so essentially what we'd have to do is we'd have to make make it basically make capitalism great again

01:52:19.280 i hate to use that terminology but with this in terms of the smees you have to curtail corporatism and

01:52:24.640 crony capitalism and stock market by getting rid of bits of stock market and also making stock market

01:52:30.400 requirements that much higher yeah so there's less trading more based upon profitability and long-term

01:52:37.040 planning and also go after the people who have um the people who have basically profited from this

01:52:44.720 very heavily like the the non's and jews and their various hedge funds the quantum funds and was kind

01:52:50.880 of jazz um and then and then use that money by expropriating them and thus forcing the system to kind of

01:53:00.320 reset and use that money to aid to help help taxpayers by help taxpayers to pay back by paying back some of

01:53:08.640 the national debt or doing whatever we need to do with national debt and also by um helping by putting

01:53:15.760 the money where it needs to go so things like for example uh making sure that you know that there

01:53:22.880 that there is some kind of safety net for american people for white american people so so you know

01:53:27.760 whether there's a problem whatever but reforming wealth welfare is another one of them so essentially

01:53:33.280 we've got we need to do all those things at once the stock market is part of that we need to decouple

01:53:39.280 our economy from the stock markets because fundamentally it's just that it's just a mechanism for trading

01:53:44.880 shares and shares and futures and all this kind of jazz that is it useful in the economy to yes it is

01:53:50.160 but it's also it's also it's also a burden of an on economy it creates probably it creates far more

01:53:55.520 problems and actually um helps particularly when you've got when your predatory your predatory um

01:54:02.320 groups like hedge funds and what and whatnot in in the mix so i think that's where we have to go

01:54:07.840 and that's where i think there's a lot of unpalatable truth in that and i just think that a

01:54:14.400 lot of people are going to be very happy about a change like that but there's also going to be a

01:54:19.360 lot of people are going to be very unhappy because we're unfortunately we're going to have to go after

01:54:23.200 them because we can't have people stealing from our people and then and your case say in your case

01:54:28.800 thunson they've stolen like twenty thousand dollars out of your uh of your pension for out of your 401k

01:54:35.280 we we need to write that because if we don't you're out you're out you're out 20k that the non's running

01:54:41.600 off to india with 20k so we we can't have that so that's we have to we have to write the wrongs

01:54:48.560 and then we use and then use what use the balance to restructure and pay off the economy and go back

01:54:53.360 to having to say less tax more more free markets within the united states and a stronger economy

01:55:01.760 overall that's run by for the people by the people by basically a national estate like a bit of a term

01:55:09.680 sorry that's a bit of a long answer

01:55:22.240 no thank you carl tungsten it that works for you all right and we'll save the rest for monday uh carl

01:55:30.560 thanks again great oven sides chats uh always a pleasure thank you for uh getting us through the dense

01:55:38.400 material and answering questions to expand on it appreciate you do you have any big plans for the

01:55:43.840 weekend carl ah not really we're going we're we're going to go to farm tomorrow to go and uh

01:55:53.680 farm petting zoo thing carl your mic is breaking up oh sorry we're going to a petting zoo tomorrow of

01:56:01.040 sort of farm to uh allow the girls to experience some um uh should say some interactive interaction 0.70

01:56:08.560 with farm animals love it that is what we like to hear we're all envisioning it now uh not sure what

01:56:18.480 kind of animals i'm envisioning some goats and some uh i believe they have ostriches as well there we go

01:56:26.080 we're going to be entertaining getting exotic i love it all right carl enjoy that and we will talk

01:56:32.960 to you soon appreciate you talk soon

01:56:41.360 it's gonna be daddy buy me a pony for the next two weeks now you know

01:56:47.200 buy me an ostrich maybe oh yeah you'll have to have an ostrich plan

01:56:51.680 now whenever i think of ostriches i think of swiss family robinson and them uh racing ostriches

01:57:00.160 on that island over there good white power movie uh good morning paladin it's all yours

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01:59:25.600 good morning arian

01:59:32.320 how's everybody doing good morning

01:59:36.880 good good morning good morning sir

01:59:40.720 how's cookie monster how's the voice it seems like your voice is uh is doing well does that

01:59:48.480 mean you're not doing cookie monster as much or are you getting used to it i think i'm getting used

01:59:54.160 to it my voice must be getting a little bit used to it but i've been going i've been going every day

01:59:58.800 since uh since the 9th of june so i've been on there yeah at least every night uh sometimes doing encores

02:00:07.280 even uh like a double double feature um but yeah yeah no i guess my voice is just getting used to it

02:00:17.600 i'm yeah you're building up those uh through those throat calluses yeah i must be something like that

02:00:23.520 i've also been like not going too you know too hard uh like screaming also so i've turned my mic up so i 0.97

02:00:30.080 don't need to scream as loud over these uh obnoxious niggers you know what i mean 1.00

02:00:38.320 but uh yeah it's going good it's going good uh hope everybody's having a good friday morning got 0.98

02:00:44.560 your coffee ready everybody and uh yeah we're ready to talk some white power uh what's everybody we got 0.67

02:00:51.360 paul up here what's going on paul i know just enjoying the day hold on a motorcycle's going by

02:00:59.040 what's up brother uh i got a bone to pick with dodge i sorry i sparked out yesterday but my wife

02:01:05.840 called me her car broke down at the dollar store so i hopped in the truck drove down there figured out

02:01:11.600 it was the battery and then it took me about 30 minutes to figure out that the battery is directly

02:01:17.360 behind the uh front uh driver headlight so i have to take the tire off i have to take the fender off

02:01:27.200 and then i can get to the battery so i would just love to meet who came up with this configuration 0.99

02:01:32.960 because i'd like to smack the out of them oh man i know man it's crazy it this is the dumbest 0.95

02:01:40.800 i've ever seen i i can't believe i have to do all this to get to a battery 0.99

02:01:44.560 you know it's it's fucked up because i've heard i've heard a lot of these new cars and these new 0.95

02:01:50.240 car companies are doing shit like that just to like i guess make things difficult so you have to 0.98

02:01:55.840 feel obligated to take it to a shop or something or bring it into their you know maintenance centers 0.98

02:02:00.800 or something so they're doing it so so it's uh us rednecks that know how to you know do basic

02:02:06.880 maintenance on a car we got to take it to a shop now but i'm going to figure it out the hell with that 0.99

02:02:11.680 it motherfuckers well hopefully everything's good now uh yeah that sucks brother um but yeah 0.98

02:02:20.560 yeah i i'm pretty sure they're doing that on purpose absolutely so yeah it is what you know um 0.99

02:02:27.520 none yeah and then we'll go to rusty yeah thanks for the mike good morning brothers and sisters white

02:02:33.520 power just going to give you a topic to talk about um it looks like the senate's trying to pass that

02:02:39.360 anti-hate bill again that uh says if you say anything negative about israel that uh you can be

02:02:46.960 labeled a terrorist in any social media platform that enables or allows people to say anything

02:02:53.200 negative about israel can be fined uh exorbitant sums of money so uh keep that in mind five million

02:03:00.320 dollars a day that i saw yeah yeah i said this last night but they they really missed out on the

02:03:05.360 opportunity to push that six million uh six million thing again it was right there it was so close

02:03:13.280 that's a good one didn't they also say something in it for any racist remarks not just anti-semitism

02:03:21.200 oh no it's just anti-semitism of course

02:03:23.200 that's interesting so that's for all platforms uh and that's mostly just for is that what's the

02:03:37.600 reach on that is that just for the united states residents or is that just like kind of globally or

02:03:43.040 well it's the the senate of the united states i'm imagining it's only for the united states for now

02:03:48.080 but uh you can see that if something like that gets passed i mean we're the we're the pretty much

02:03:53.360 the last country that has any any form of free speech you already can't say stuff like this in any

02:03:58.160 of the other white countries so uh you know i honestly don't see it passing but it wouldn't surprise me 1.00

02:04:04.240 if it did and it's going to be very interesting what x turns into if something like that's passed 0.98

02:04:10.080 if you know if if elon is gonna say fuck you guys this is free speech and just fork over the money 0.96

02:04:16.160 or try to sue them or something like that because it's clearly against the first amendment i mean 0.99

02:04:20.560 clearly but they'll try to push it anyway well wouldn't wouldn't you think that they're getting

02:04:26.240 scared now because they're starting to realize that it's not just one country notice 0.98

02:04:30.000 it's everybody noticing so usually when they start outlawing shit that means that they're scared 0.94

02:04:34.640 i agree um yeah it's gonna be interesting to see what they do if they uh blanket to lead a whole 0.90

02:04:46.000 bunch of uh accounts in our circles and we'll know we'll know what time it is right

02:04:54.800 which hopefully doesn't happen because that would suck but uh yeah we'll go to rusty 0.98

02:04:59.760 oh yeah just to help out with that five million fuck these kikes um yeah with the battery though god 1.00

02:05:09.760 that you know i hate that shit i ended up um on a damn sierra gmc they put the battery you gotta do all 0.99

02:05:20.880 this bullshit to get you know what i did i added a goddamn second battery in a because they literally 0.99

02:05:26.960 have a spot for a second battery but they could have just put the battery in that original spot 0.99

02:05:36.400 a normal spot where it's supposed to be up front nothing covering it no bullshit to undo and uh so i

02:05:43.840 added a second battery and then i don't have to and now it's like no battery ever goes out with two batteries

02:05:50.560 damn that's a good idea i'll see if i can figure out a way to snug one in there or something i don't know 0.99

02:05:58.400 we'll see it's just bullshit 1.00

02:06:03.920 yeah that's actually retarded fuck but uh good idea that's white innovation right there 1.00

02:06:10.240 rusty with the white innovation uh tungsten go ahead 1.00

02:06:13.120 having had some experience in this uh sector not to be too autistic but you could always run wire to a 0.74

02:06:23.680 convenient location mind you so you can just tap into where the existing wiring is run the wire to

02:06:30.960 convenient location and still have two batteries by the way that's your humor um but uh one little

02:06:37.360 point in terms of experience with i've i've done a lot of work in this field your batteries are

02:06:43.120 usually only good at least traditional batteries um safely in what's called cold cranking amps and

02:06:50.320 that's what's needed to turn the starter motor over for approximately three to ten years now your mileage

02:06:57.040 may vary depending on how frequently you do that so just keep in mind what are the cold cranking amps

02:07:02.480 requirements cca on the battery and that can be tested periodically to see if it meets those standards

02:07:08.720 if it doesn't do yourself a favor change the battery at your convenience not when it is inconvenient

02:07:20.000 well i would have done that brother but uh it happened inconveniently at the dollar store 0.91

02:07:24.960 so i'm trying to be a lazy nigger i guess and catch up 0.99

02:07:32.480 yeah that is that is a problem there it's real fucking easy all you do is take a red cable 0.98

02:07:40.960 put it on the hot of your battery run it all the way through the firewall 0.77

02:07:45.360 under the floorboard into the fucking trunk so you got unless you got space in the in the engine 0.97

02:07:51.120 department if it's a car you probably don't so you got to run to the trunk get an extra battery plate 1.00

02:07:55.680 bolt that fucker down so you can strap that extra battery in in the trunk run your hot lead all the 0.83

02:08:00.960 way through and then ground it to the frame in the trunk or the the chassis whatever 0.99

02:08:09.200 well goddamn y'all just gave me two good ideas all right oh i'm on it just make sure you look it up 0.76

02:08:14.560 you don't want to you don't want to double the wattage for the voltage to 24 it's it's either in 0.97

02:08:21.040 series or in sync i can't remember which one so i think it's hot to hot not hot to not hot to ground

02:08:27.120 well if i can't get the the basic to work i've already figured out a way to get the fender off

02:08:35.040 without breaking it so if i can't do it the way they're telling me to do it i'm definitely going 0.97

02:08:38.480 to do one of these two ideas i promise appreciate it white fucking power fellas 1.00

02:08:42.880 hell yeah 0.99

02:08:48.800 so yeah it's friday and uh

02:08:55.600 uh trump is trying to say he didn't go to epstein i didn't go to epstein island it was never it never

02:09:03.200 happened i don't even know that guy ah there's there's pictures of the guy who knows he doesn't

02:09:11.040 know the guy okay i figured out exactly you remember how i told you uh last week that my uh

02:09:22.080 mom went to school with marla maples his first wife well there's pictures i've looked into it there's

02:09:28.400 pictures and epstein was at that wedding so trump knows epstein and has known him for a while

02:09:35.520 he epstein came to dalton and got all that he's been to dalton with trump which is where i'm from 0.59

02:09:40.960 dalton georgia oh shit yeah it's just a matter of time before it really uh really comes out and then you 0.61

02:09:50.480 gotta think hmm how what are they if it does come out you know like uh proof what are they gonna do to 0.98

02:09:57.280 cover it up you know because they always love to have some big you know oh this happened uh here

02:10:02.880 and we gotta focus on that now so take it away you used to have miss teen pageants he used to like be

02:10:10.720 the main dude in the miss teen america so we know that i mean come on two plus two equals four

02:10:18.320 there you go right you gotta wonder sometimes go ahead rusty

02:10:27.280 rusty can you hear me oh yes um yeah so i'm hanging in some tvs in the house you know what 1.00

02:10:36.240 pisses me off i have this shitty stud and that's my problem i'm from cheap i bought a stupid harbor 0.99

02:10:42.960 freight stud finder it it beeps i don't know it just randomly beeps i guess so i'm checking for studs 0.99

02:10:49.120 i'm putting holes in the wall you know i checked even just the average like where a stud should be

02:10:54.640 measurements because there's a few of them none of it's not there there's no studs in the 0.84

02:10:59.200 fucking wall and i know like someone like sammy has probably done uh framing it pisses me off but 0.97

02:11:06.320 it's an internal internal non load bearing wall so maybe there isn't studs between this inner 0.99

02:11:14.000 fucking anyways yeah i'm just what kind of a wall is it how and how big is it how many feet it is a 0.93

02:11:21.680 it's a um it's an add-on wall it's not like a load bearing wall and then there's like a i know 0.98

02:11:29.680 there's studs say where this window is within the kitchen but then there's a sunroom built after it

02:11:38.160 and then so there's gonna be studs where the window is but i don't want it i'm not trying to hang a

02:11:44.400 fucking tv there is it it's exterior no i've already adapted i got butterfly screws and i'm 0.97

02:11:54.080 doing it a different way now and everything because i have the hardware anyways but it just 0.98

02:11:58.240 it's annoying because i ended up putting probably like seven holes in the goddamn wall and it's just 0.93

02:12:04.640 it pisses me off well if it just feature reference if it's an exterior wall especially if it's uh 0.88

02:12:11.600 two by six they're not 24 on center they're they're like uh they're 32 or something i forgot what the 0.89

02:12:18.560 fuck them is no it's six it's no it's an it's an interior wall it's an interior wall and yeah no 0.96

02:12:27.280 yeah like no interiors typically 24 on two by four but if they if you're ever dealing with the two 0.99

02:12:32.960 by six wall they go to 16 yeah and i checked both of those also i checked 16 i put i checked 19.2 and

02:12:41.360 i checked 24 nothing anywhere and then the stud finders going off at random spots so i'm checking

02:12:47.600 those spots there ain't shit i'm throwing i'm smashing this stud finder and it's going gone 0.99

02:12:54.240 um did you get one that reads metal only or is it one that reads wood too it has all of it 0.77

02:13:02.720 but clearly it does none of it

02:13:09.760 i just want to hop in real quick i i've done

02:13:13.200 contracting for many years and i recommend having two so you can you can actually double confirm

02:13:20.800 another reason is you might find electric and some of these better units have electrical scan just

02:13:26.080 to prevent any catastrophic um problems going forward oh there's definitely no electrical in

02:13:34.240 this wall at the height i'm doing it and different things like i'm i'm pretty good with electrical and

02:13:39.840 stuff like uh i've built out entire crazy ass grow rooms and different things like very intricate um 0.60

02:13:49.200 electrical systems uh with my dad i've done i've redone the whole house at this one house i used to

02:13:55.680 live in it we we literally put it brought it up from a 100 amp system to a 200 amp system

02:14:03.920 i uh i've we've done all kinds of crazy electrical work did you just try the tap the old tap test see if you

02:14:11.520 could find the hollow spot yeah i of course i that was the first thing but it literally sounds the same

02:14:17.440 everywhere it doesn't sound like there's a damn stud in the wall until the window the only thing i

02:14:23.360 could think that they did would be to run the studs as purlins instead which i was actually wondering too 0.93

02:14:31.760 i was thinking the same thing which is which pisses me off even more

02:14:39.120 yeah it sounds like a bunch of nons built that wall

02:14:46.000 it's a possibility i mean this the people i bought the house from i noticed their one of their rental 0.99

02:14:54.800 properties they rent to fucking niggers so clearly they don't have a problem with 1.00

02:14:59.760 uh nons 1.00

02:15:06.240 well it's not just a nons thing like if it's a really really fucking old guy that has done 0.90

02:15:12.240 construction they sometimes they ran their studs as purlins on a non load-bearing wall because

02:15:18.800 it's how you had to do them for plaster so if they were used to doing plaster you might have just did it

02:15:24.400 that way it's not plaster wall it's drywall and but i mean technically if they had done

02:15:33.600 at these windows if they had done studs which they would have at this window

02:15:38.960 it technically on a non load-bearing wall would have been plenty

02:15:43.360 um and it would have you know what it would have been i wonder if it's just at literally the the debt the

02:15:51.360 now you know what i bet that's what it is it's at the length of probably the drywall itself so four

02:15:58.000 feet wide and then they did a chop mudded it and then the other one it looks like it is about four

02:16:05.280 feet before the next window i don't know yeah that's what it is if they didn't put one in 0.98

02:16:13.120 between you'd be able to just push your hand through that fucking drywall 0.98

02:16:19.280 yeah yeah 0.98

02:16:24.880 that's somewhat true but if they have five-eighths fire rated drywall on there

02:16:28.720 you won't push your hand through it very easily 0.97

02:16:34.240 yeah who the fuck tries to save on studs to buy fire rated drywall 0.99

02:16:43.120 hey uh do you mind if i just step in for real quick yeah sir it's just about to call you 0.99

02:16:52.720 yeah go you're up i'm i'm not a contractor or anything but i've fucked around a lot of 0.98

02:16:59.840 shit like this and uh for me is to use a mag it hasn't worked every time but uh 0.95

02:17:11.920 use a magnet on the drywall screws so basically you're finding where the drywall has been screwed to 0.98

02:17:18.400 the stud all right did you say use a magnet it you're cutting out i'm sorry yeah i think he said

02:17:26.560 use a magnet okay yeah it honestly it doesn't even matter what i did was i just

02:17:32.160 i used those butterfly i put a piece of wood on the wall instead and i'm just uh but by doing it this

02:17:40.880 way it's going to hold because i used a six by or about an eight inch wide plank and the

02:17:48.560 the the distribution of the weight because of how the wood will it it'll be fine i'm i'm not worried

02:17:57.280 i just i just did it a totally different way but i was just i was just venting like the other guy 0.82

02:18:01.760 about the battery and how shit pisses me off that's all yeah yeah so uh i just seen that uh 0.89

02:18:12.720 the u.s court of appeals for the ninth circuit just blocked oregon's woke adoption policy that forced 0.98

02:18:19.040 parents to affirm a child's pronoun or and gender identity so uh one step forward right 0.99

02:18:32.800 i can't wait till we get done with all this shit man kids and toward our women you know they they just 1.00

02:18:38.400 come at us with our lives they come at them in a totally fucked up way man so i i'm ready to be 1.00

02:18:43.920 done with the kids shit absolutely yeah and all these uh they should they should really need to 0.99

02:18:49.920 restrict uh anyone in that community from adopting or some you know uh they have to have like more 0.98

02:18:57.600 stringent you know more uh strong uh laws to you know really tackle that problem because it doesn't

02:19:05.280 seem to end anywhere it just keeps uh these children keep getting abused and there's they

02:19:10.400 just let it happen really go ahead tungsten yeah to what you brought up earlier i wanted to point out

02:19:22.720 most probably know this right now that um the house where thomas massey brought up a measure to

02:19:29.840 get the information pertaining to the epstein crisis out and about got stifled and uh mike johnson

02:19:39.920 uh shuttered the house early to go on their summer break and i think what we have here is basically

02:19:47.280 damage control so there you can look for some kind of um statement limited hangout

02:19:54.960 coming in the not too distant future to try to really divert the attention from what's really going

02:20:02.000 on

02:20:07.200 yeah you definitely could be right about that it's uh i mean that's all they can do at this point if

02:20:11.920 they they yeah they uh pissed a lot of people off with not releasing anything so

02:20:18.400 people are going to want to see you know some truth coming out of there

02:20:27.920 and if not they're you know what's going to happen you think there's going to be uh any kind of back

02:20:32.640 you know backlash on that uh you know it's hard to say hard to say but honestly from what i've seen

02:20:41.920 uh they'll just have another distraction everyone will forget about it move on for a few little while

02:20:46.640 they'll come back to it a little distraction everyone forgets about it for a while then they come back

02:20:53.120 you know uh go ahead tungsten so yeah the concern i i have is that this might precipitate a false flag

02:21:02.560 because it's such a rabbit hole with a pardon me rabbi hole um with regards to so many people who are

02:21:12.320 going to be caught in this uh net that it would cause such

02:21:20.640 rippling effects in in the country and in the actual governing bodies that i i i hate to say this

02:21:26.800 but i think we could see something really bad uh manifested to as you pointed out rightfully so

02:21:34.880 steer people's attention off of it to something else

02:21:37.680 yeah definitely a false flag isn't out of the question uh especially just because there's so

02:21:45.200 much else going on also like uh yeah so yeah i mean that wouldn't be out of the question for sure

02:21:52.480 unfortunately um hopefully you know it's not something like you know a pandemic again where they

02:21:57.920 uh lock everybody down kill all the businesses and uh yeah wreak havoc on on the the people and their

02:22:06.080 health again so hopefully it's not going to be something like that if they do pull that you know

02:22:12.800 pull that trick again um but yeah yeah no it's definitely not out of the question knowing our knowing how they work

02:22:20.560 yeah i would definitely say something's coming i mean you remember before 9 11 like two days prior i

02:22:28.000 believe they were wanting to audit the pentagon because all that there was like a trillion or two

02:22:31.920 trillion dollars missing and then two days later that happened so i would say something's definitely coming

02:22:42.880 yeah if you you know it's been uh it's almost felt like something big's coming uh for quite a while

02:22:48.720 actually even um so yeah you know uh i mean i will say that that fertilizer that went missing that

02:22:57.360 that like magical disappearance of fertilizer there still hasn't turned up so you know end of the day

02:23:04.240 they could be planting something really big somewhere or multiple places and just like yeah from there

02:23:12.240 they would they would lock down a lot of things uh just like they had all those laws you know 0.99

02:23:17.280 uh what do they call that you know the tsa informed all that you have airport security like up your ass 0.91

02:23:24.400 every time you go through an airport um so yeah it's just hopefully it doesn't uh isn't like something

02:23:32.400 that changes everything we're used to anymore you know uh we get to keep our shoes now we get to keep

02:23:37.760 our shoes now remember yeah yeah we got that yeah yeah true but uh yeah it sucks i uh makes traveling not

02:23:46.880 so much fun anymore uh nanya yeah thanks for the mic um you know so we're we're talking about a few

02:23:54.400 different things here um a lot of people like to equate the uh the rumsfeld um uh pentagon money

02:24:01.600 missing with 9-11 just because it happens so much uh you know a couple of days before it right but uh

02:24:07.600 the big picture is kind of just like you just said there is uh these things are being planned months if not

02:24:13.360 years in advance uh so if something was going to happen today they already knew about it six

02:24:18.640 eight twelve months ago so all these things that are aligning is how their planning works uh you know

02:24:26.400 the the missing fertilizer the uh the policies the you know congress going on leave all this kind of

02:24:33.600 stuff if you think about it all these things could align for something to happen i don't i don't disagree

02:24:38.400 that it's quite possible uh that they have been planning something for a long time but i just

02:24:43.120 wanted to point out the fact that uh it was more of a um a planned opportunity if that makes any sense

02:24:49.840 uh with the uh the pentagon rumsfeld thing right they knew what they were going to do a long time

02:24:55.600 before that and that's why they went ahead and had him up there you know this was something that had

02:25:00.640 been talked about for a long time prior to him even addressing the public about it and it just so

02:25:06.880 happens that well this falls into line we we made him go up there at this specific time so that we

02:25:12.640 could do this right after uh it's not it wasn't one of those oh we're just about to find it you know

02:25:18.160 trying to think that uh trying to make the american people think oh yeah we're going for it it was

02:25:23.920 completely planned and they planned 9-11 months if not years prior i mean we saw lots of videos and

02:25:30.080 documentaries and uh clues that told us such so i would say that again if something is going to happen

02:25:37.920 within the next few weeks or months or even the next year they've already known about what they were

02:25:43.920 going to do uh probably years prior and it's just they're slowly planning that's what the jews you know 0.99

02:25:50.640 that's what they do they they build they build things um in preparation you know they're very

02:25:58.160 good at doing that unfortunately it's a slow burn with them and it leads to a big explosion it seems to

02:26:04.560 be how it's always been yeah good point good point very good points uh rusty then sammy

02:26:14.080 yeah yeah you know that you look into the 2.1 trillion back in uh what was it 2001 the um

02:26:25.520 if you look into that that number has grown to some crazy amount now i think it's over 19 trillion

02:26:34.000 under unaccounted for at the pentagon now something crazy look into it i mean i if you need me to repost

02:26:42.080 receipts i can but if you just google that you will find you could even grok it i bet

02:26:49.040 you should just change your name to receipts instead of rusty because you always bring them receipts brother

02:26:58.400 take it away sammy

02:27:05.920 sammy can you hear me 0.96

02:27:07.280 yeah sorry i had a fucking ad playing in the background uh it's the same idea as like when 0.97

02:27:19.040 you're in war and you have a bridge that you've taken over and you know you put bombs on and get 0.96

02:27:26.640 it ready to blow but you don't do it immediately you use it as much as you can to get as much resources

02:27:32.240 across it but that plan's always there to blow that thing it's not it's never it's never intended for

02:27:39.680 it to be there forever if you just get as much use out of it until the enemy takes it over or whatever

02:27:46.640 it stops being a resource for you then you blow it it's the same thing with all of their plans that

02:27:51.280 they're doing it yeah it definitely feels like it you know so yeah it's uh something we got to keep

02:28:07.440 our eyes on for sure but now i'm also seeing uh uh trump saying you should focus on clinton you should

02:28:14.640 focus on the former president of harvard you should focus on the head fund guys uh saying that uh i

02:28:22.240 will give you a list these guys lived with jeffrey jeffrey epstein i'm i sure as hell didn't he says

02:28:28.960 so who knows what the that means but yeah um you gotta you gotta wonder if they're trying to

02:28:35.120 say that the list doesn't exist that there were no flight logs and now he comes out like saying that

02:28:40.720 stuff so like what the very very weird things going on here um and it just just shows you that

02:28:54.240 they'll lie to your face but maybe they they have more information than they're saying so you know

02:29:02.480 it's crazy that you know there's so many people that just they buy every little thing they hear in

02:29:06.880 this new on the news you know still and even though they've been lied to multiple times

02:29:11.840 we're going multiple things and they're still reluctant to understand that it's all just 0.99

02:29:16.880 bullshit so now you go ahead yeah talking about the shit that trump's putting out right 1.00

02:29:23.760 every time i hear him talk uh in my head i picture a little jew on his shoulder whispering into his ear 1.00

02:29:31.120 telling him what to say you know trying to trying to tell him to keep the people on the right on his

02:29:39.120 side and and piss the people on the left off and and it's just it's so bothersome it really is like

02:29:47.920 all of these politicians 99 of them are so bought and paid for and they've got little jews on their 1.00

02:29:54.560 shoulders that tell them what to do and it doesn't do anything but divide it doesn't do anything but 0.95

02:30:01.760 hold white people back and hold white people down it's the boot on our neck 24 7 on every 0.99

02:30:07.840 fucking channel and the couple of people that actually come out and say something 1.00

02:30:13.520 shit happens to them and it's fucking disgusting you know i don't i don't believe anything that they 1.00

02:30:18.960 say especially not if it's on fucking tv i definitely don't believe that shit so it's hard 1.00

02:30:24.880 to know what to believe and what not to believe anymore and i think that's by design as well you 0.99

02:30:30.000 know i think the jews do these things to keep people confused to keep people divided so you you get 0.94

02:30:37.040 that uh you know that that one percent truth and 99 lies and they can go back and say well we said 0.99

02:30:43.440 this was true and then all the little fucking normies all the little sheep are like oh yeah that 0.99

02:30:48.400 was true they did this you know ignoring the 99 of the fucking lies it's i don't i just don't 1.00

02:30:56.720 understand how people can continue to fall for this crap you know it just doesn't make sense to me 0.99

02:31:02.480 from an intellectual level from a personal level if somebody did that to me in my house let's say my 0.99

02:31:09.760 wife or something right if she lied to me 99 of the time but told me the truth one percent of the time 1.00

02:31:16.000 do you think that's somebody that i'm going to trust or trust around my kids or trust to raise

02:31:20.080 my kids absolutely not so why do people think that it's okay for somebody who is running the

02:31:25.680 most powerful country on earth and has the most powerful military in their pocket for whatever they 0.96

02:31:32.960 want which we know they do because congress is fucking run by jews too so if it's something that 0.98

02:31:38.160 supports jewish supremacy it's immediately going to go straight through yeah how do people still believe 0.99

02:31:45.200 and still have faith or confidence in somebody like this or any of our politicians it just does not 0.91

02:31:51.600 make fucking sense to me whatsoever man most of them are gen x and they were literally raised on 0.99

02:31:58.000 cocaine and tranny rock that's basically jewish so i mean their entire fucking life has been ignoring 0.98

02:32:07.760 red flags they're pretty used to it i'm gen x 0.99

02:32:15.920 no offense

02:32:18.880 no i'm just saying like it's i don't think it's specifically i don't think it's wrong though

02:32:25.360 well i think it's a it's a generalization i don't necessarily think you're entirely wrong i think that

02:32:32.720 the generalization uh is one of the dividing parts it's one of the things that the jews push 1.00

02:32:38.160 you know everybody you hear people talking about boomer this and boomer that but frank comes up here 0.93

02:32:42.960 and he says he's met tons of fucking base boomers right it's just the fact that this is this is what 0.94

02:32:48.720 the jews do they find points that people argue about and they put them on the media they make sure that 0.99

02:32:55.040 people are talking about them and then they hold on to that point and make sure people are are virulent

02:33:00.960 about them and i think that's one of the issues there is because you know when you have a talking

02:33:07.120 point and you can point out these things yes maybe there are a lot of gen x maybe there are a lot of

02:33:12.400 boomers but the fact is we're it's not it's not every single one of them it just so happens that

02:33:19.360 these people that are up there are the ones that have taken the money they're the ones that took the 0.98

02:33:23.440 bait and they happen to be a boomer or happen to be gen x there's shit tons of bad people out there 0.98

02:33:29.600 and i think the generalization there is just another way that the jews divide uh our people 0.98

02:33:35.680 amongst themselves i can respect that point but again like you said there's a shit ton it's most 0.61

02:33:42.560 and we don't go on outliers so you know there are some outlier older folks that aren't quite 0.97

02:33:49.280 faggotty and selfish and self-centered that didn't just sell out their entire lineage and 1.00

02:33:54.720 our entire countries for their own fucking to line their wallets and pockets so sure there are 1.00

02:34:00.240 some but they're outliers and we don't base reality off of outliers go ahead rusty yeah i was gonna um 0.98

02:34:14.640 you know that the that jew on their shoulder a lot of times he's standing right behind these 0.54

02:34:20.000 politicians there are pictures of it and i'm not even kidding uh so they they're literally right

02:34:27.440 there on their shoulder just but just behind their shoulder tons of pictures of it those are the guys 0.97

02:34:33.280 whispering in their fucking ears you know and uh and you know i i tend to be with i know we don't we're 0.96

02:34:41.440 not the generalization thing but we don't do this on you know what it's it's it's real 0.99

02:34:48.560 it's real touch and go with everyone as you know it's it's got to be done on an individual

02:34:53.680 you know like someone like my dad with the most goddamn generous guy i know you know and uh and then

02:35:00.880 there's and there's just there's i've met a lot of based boomers i've met based gen i've met completely 0.96

02:35:06.080 fucking degenerate degenerate ones i've met and it goes with same with gen z and and millennials and 0.86

02:35:12.560 you know it's just touch and go with everyone it seems like to me you know i take everything on 1.00

02:35:18.000 an individual basis and i judge a motherfucker on an individual basis you know and that's just 0.86

02:35:23.760 that's kind of how i've ran things in my life and and that's why a lot of people aren't in my life 0.97

02:35:28.880 absolutely go ahead tungsten

02:35:41.680 yeah so i think as was mentioned the the mechanisms that are used depending on each generation

02:35:48.480 it differs like you know you look at the different degenerate music that has been around for the last

02:35:56.080 let's just say 70 years it just it changes as it's tailored to the generation i mean you look at it

02:36:04.560 now you have all this you know degenerate rap music but it was something different you know before as

02:36:10.560 was said you know there was degenerate you know look at all the tranny rock like kiss and and the way 1.00

02:36:17.520 that poison and the way that they dressed up you know and makeup and look like women i mean so 1.00

02:36:23.360 it just changes depending on who the target audience is um i think it's important to keep

02:36:29.760 that in mind so the current trend you see a lot of young uh white boys who are still emulating black 0.94

02:36:39.280 people most of them because they they don't have good white role models um and they're being pounded

02:36:45.520 with you know this rap music because it's the only thing that they're that they're getting

02:36:50.560 through the lame stream and it it it also poses a rebellious streak so they're looking they want

02:36:57.280 to be rebellious against something they just need the guidance to to know what to be rebellious

02:37:02.560 against and as it was said in in the days of old is we don't want rebels without a cause we we want

02:37:08.640 if you're going to be a rebel you better damn well have a cause and you better know why you're doing it

02:37:13.600 absolutely rusty i also want i want to say you know if you're if if you don't do this you got it

02:37:26.960 you know and this is a little off topic but i just want to you know it is coming in handy right now i

02:37:32.800 have kept every damn nut bolt and screw everything i have and i have this giant tub of these things all 0.85

02:37:41.600 boxed up and different little container compartment things and everything the man that's just coming 1.00

02:37:47.360 in handy right now because the damn they try to screw you they give me they gave me these balls 1.00

02:37:51.840 but they didn't have the nuts for them in the package and they would it would have been a hardware trip 1.00

02:37:56.960 right now and that and i'm already when i start doing this shit i'm i'm one of those guys on the job 0.99

02:38:01.680 i'm cursing like a sailor fuck this and fuck that and everything's you know so um yeah and and just keep 0.99

02:38:08.400 i keep everything and i just wanted to throw that in there it's something i took away from my father 0.99

02:38:13.280 and and i just hold on to it all okay grandpa let's get you back to your room now

02:38:23.280 yeah no uh i've kind of become the same way uh myself yeah my father does the same thing uh

02:38:29.040 he saves every little piece of uh you know any scrap uh this and that but he's always got that one

02:38:34.800 like thing you need to do to finish something that you're doing or yeah that's funny that's funny

02:38:39.280 shit totally um take it away tungsten yeah so it's a balance you know you want to keep the stuff that's 0.55

02:38:47.280 relevant but you don't want to be you know inundated where you can't function i've seen that i struggle 0.96

02:38:52.800 i've had to struggle with that but i definitely would advise everybody to especially if older stuff you 0.99

02:38:59.040 inherit your father's your grandfather's stuff because the the shit they're making today is trash 0.93

02:39:04.400 so yeah you might you could use it but if you have this stuff at your availability that is from you 0.98

02:39:11.200 know quality source hang on to it use it you will find that the cost to replace that stuff gets

02:39:18.080 astronomically more and more and the quality goes down so you know this is just practicality

02:39:24.240 it's being resourceful um you will find that there will be times you need it and do yourself a

02:39:30.560 favor organize as you go you don't want to have a clusterfuck and you can't find that thing and then

02:39:35.760 you're racking your your brain about where it went absolutely go ahead none yeah yeah i'll echo the

02:39:49.760 same thing right i think organization is a very white trait and i also think it's um it's something

02:39:56.560 that people need to understand is important uh when you have all these different types of tools or you

02:40:02.640 have uh books or you have even your clothes right maybe this is just me from the military right but my

02:40:09.600 my closet and my dresser are organized socks in one thing underwear another thing shirts and undershirts

02:40:19.200 so on and so forth right all my shirts my undershirts are are rolled up my socks are paired uh all my my

02:40:27.920 shirts and my pants and all that stuff in my dress in my uh my closet are color coordinated that's just

02:40:34.080 maybe it's a little fucking a little weird but that's just how i do it you know and it's the same 0.89

02:40:39.040 thing for my garage i've got a a shelf that has i think 16 different drawers you know and it goes across 0.92

02:40:46.480 the entire garage in one drawer i've got tape one drawer i've got nuts one drawer i've got bolts one

02:40:51.280 drawer i've got screws so on and so forth all of my tools are hung up all everything is placed where

02:40:57.280 it needs to be and i think i really did get this from my dad because he runs a small engine repair

02:41:02.720 shop and he's been a master mechanic for many many years and in his garage it's all exactly like that too

02:41:09.360 every single thing that he could possibly need he keeps and that's where i was going to get uh

02:41:15.920 to what uh the gentleman just brought i think it was tungsten you know don't turn into a hoarder

02:41:20.880 you know look at the things that you might need don't oh i found this half piece of plastic uh bolt 0.98

02:41:26.320 i might need this for something i mean it's a small piece of plastic if you got a fucking sheet 0.98

02:41:30.560 of plastic you don't need to keep that little piece of crap throw it away but you know if you've got 0.99

02:41:34.800 tools you've got things that you could obviously use then yes keep them and make sure your shit is 0.99

02:41:39.840 organized you know not just for yourself but for anybody like me i go work at my dad's shop you know 0.98

02:41:47.120 and i need to know where shit is you know where is this well it's in the second drawer to the left 0.98

02:41:51.280 and the big toolbar okay well i know right where the fuck it's at then you know don't be like well i 0.99

02:41:55.840 don't know i got a whole drawer full of shit go look for it nobody wants to be like that and nobody 0.99

02:42:00.480 wants to help somebody who's like that that's so fucking disorganized you can't find shit if 0.99

02:42:05.440 they're disorganized in their life they're going to be disorganized in their work and that's a 0.98

02:42:10.880 fucking fact so just i mean keep that in mind and i know some people will say well there's a thing 0.99

02:42:15.520 called chaotic organization right sure if it's your shit and you're the only one using it and nobody 0.98

02:42:22.240 else ever helps you that might work for you but generally speaking for people who want to seem 0.96

02:42:27.520 professional and be professional they're gonna be organized they're not gonna have a bunch of 0.98

02:42:32.000 clutter and and be a fucking hoarder 0.97

02:42:40.320 no organization key for sure i you know when i went and got this stuff because they didn't have 0.99

02:42:44.960 this other stuff that should have been there it took me i don't know uh less than two minutes to

02:42:51.120 find what i needed so it's fucking key for sure yeah uh all my all my old teachers always used to 0.90

02:42:58.800 tell me uh organization is the key to success and it's very true uh to stay organized is uh you know 0.96

02:43:05.440 it's basically the ground uh foundation for being successful so when you lose your organization it

02:43:12.320 becomes all chaotic and then you just spiral down and yeah you make uh you know you cut corners you you uh

02:43:21.440 make you know um bad moves bad mistakes and yeah uh it's really good to keep organized when i when

02:43:29.120 i lose my organization yeah i can feel it you feel chaotic so absolutely tungsten we'll go to you now

02:43:36.080 yeah pro tip um when you're doing a project is to the degree that you can afford it if you're buying

02:43:42.400 stuff and that's different if you're using stuff that you already have but if you're buying stuff and you

02:43:46.640 can afford it buy a few things that you might need because you don't want to leave the job project

02:43:54.560 to have to go and get it when you're midstream you can always take it back when you're done at your

02:44:00.320 convenience that's the first thing second thing is you want to have your tools and you can you can

02:44:06.480 imagine where i'm going with this but in the we'll use this concept this context if you want to have

02:44:11.920 an emergency set of tools available at any given time that's going to be a distinctively

02:44:18.000 different thing than what's as was described um by nunya on the tool bench you want to have

02:44:24.400 something you can grab and you can go because if it's not that you that you do this for a living but 0.96

02:44:29.600 it might be your mother who says son i have a fucking leaking sink and you don't want to be like 0.99

02:44:35.440 oh shit i gotta do this no you want to have this kind of stuff you grab it and in five minutes you 0.99

02:44:40.320 put it in the car or truck and you're gone and this is true in other ways i'm sure you guys can imagine 0.98

02:44:54.800 yeah when i when i was up at my house in the mountains i um definitely like i had a whole thing

02:45:00.640 extra everything for all pex piping uh because pipes would sometimes burst in the cold and 0.84

02:45:09.520 fuck you know i if it happened at night you would i would shut the just the water off completely and 0.99

02:45:14.640 i would take care of it in the morning but it it sucks uh if you know it it always sucks when that 1.00

02:45:21.200 happens having to like run to the store and this and that so i would have multiple everything of

02:45:27.680 anything i would need right down to like 50 foot rolls of pecs i had would have multiples of those

02:45:34.080 and just and i'd still live that way uh just because i didn't use everything it's like up nope

02:45:39.920 it's coming with me nothing's getting sold you know why are you using pecs in the mountains put in

02:45:51.120 put in fucking galvanized and copper uh because it was a it wasn't that way to begin with so when it is 0.93

02:46:02.800 when you repair it you're dealing with what you already are working off of um it that was that a 0.98

02:46:09.840 first house in the mountains was a fixer-upper double wide and it didn't have copper and all of that that's why

02:46:21.120 there you go uh nanya and then i think paul had his hand up too so if you want to get get something

02:46:28.240 in there yeah that's that's kind of the point i was going to bring up too i've learned over the years

02:46:34.240 uh especially working with my father that if you go to buy something you buy you want to buy two maybe

02:46:40.400 even three of that thing if you can afford it uh because it's it's inevitable that at some point

02:46:47.440 when you're working on something you could get a defective product uh anything can happen maybe

02:46:53.200 you go to bend something and instead of bending it breaks and now instead of having to go all the 0.95

02:46:58.080 way back to the store like my dad lives 30 minutes from the fucking store uh maybe a little bit longer 0.97

02:47:02.560 if he's going to his favorite hardware store right so now we have to go all the way back there to get 1.00

02:47:07.520 another one fuck that buy two or three and just fucking keep the other ones you know especially if 0.99

02:47:14.160 you're somebody that works on a specific product like my dad does uh with small engines you know 1.00

02:47:18.880 there's only a certain amount of parts for a weed eater and a lawn mower and you know all these types

02:47:24.160 of small engine things that you you need so buy two or three of them you know have have an extra socket

02:47:30.640 wrench have an extra set of uh sockets have have different things that you might use because you don't

02:47:38.000 want to be working on something especially if it's for somebody else or if it's an emergency situation

02:47:44.640 you don't want one of your tools to break and then you're fucked you know so have extra of the stuff 0.98

02:47:50.160 that you regularly use and extra of the stuff that you think is going to be a key component to anything

02:47:57.760 you're trying to fix so that you can save yourself time you know you're gonna it's gonna be the same

02:48:03.360 money if it breaks you still got to go buy it so you save yourself time and you save yourself the hassle 0.98

02:48:07.680 it had to go all the way back to the fucking store 0.96

02:48:13.520 absolutely yeah good points uh paul and then tungsten yeah i was just going to echo that with 0.96

02:48:20.400 any project i do i i worry about the time management you know making sure my time is laid out because we

02:48:26.400 only have so much time to get it done so yeah but none you covered everything i was going to say well said

02:48:31.520 brother hell yeah go ahead tungsten yeah there's an old saying three is two two is one one is none

02:48:44.640 garth that's a haiku

02:48:50.480 all right i i don't see if there's any more hands but yeah absolutely you know preparedness and

02:49:02.880 organization will get you far in life uh so yeah when people say that when people when i used to hear

02:49:08.400 that in school i used to just think oh yeah whatever you know it's just another uh you know

02:49:12.400 it's just another thing they say and but yeah no everything that i've done to keep myself organized

02:49:17.840 has been uh you know it's been it's propelled me further in life so yeah don't don't uh

02:49:24.480 yeah it's important it's important okay go ahead nanya

02:49:28.000 yeah i mean we've pretty much covered the the mechanic topic let's uh let's shift it a little

02:49:35.040 bit right so i think uh one of the things that's also important is that people continue to learn

02:49:42.080 and uh in continuing to learn uh i mean just about about everything around your house you know about your

02:49:51.280 motorized vehicles that you might have electricity things like that i think it's important to understand

02:49:57.280 not only the things that you're working with but the things that you might have to actually work on

02:50:02.320 like i was never really big into uh working with electricity uh i i knew you know the basics

02:50:09.200 difference between amps and volts and all this kind of stuff and you know but when i moved into my house

02:50:15.040 here uh it was made in 78 built in 78 so it still had all the old fucking style wall plugs and they were just 0.93

02:50:25.120 wore out you know nothing would stay in them they'd fall out didn't even have the third 0.92

02:50:28.480 fucking negative or the the neutral prong in it so i had to rewire every outlet in my house 0.86

02:50:35.680 and it got to the point to where it was so fucking tedious but it had to be done right and i had never 0.97

02:50:40.400 done that before but i sat down and i did a little bit of research which it's not difficult it's three 0.90

02:50:46.720 fucking wires clearly but you know learning how to jump different wires to different you know outlets 0.56

02:50:51.600 and all that stuff so you got one light that turns on you can use another switch to turn off all that 0.98

02:50:56.320 kind of stuff but just keep learning these things because you never know when you're going to be

02:51:01.600 short on cash and it's something that you can do yourself change your own oil for instance there's so

02:51:06.800 many people that don't even change their fucking own oil you know it's a simple task all you need is a 0.97

02:51:12.560 uh a set of uh oh god damn losing my train of thought but the the tire stands right that you 0.98

02:51:20.080 you roll your truck up onto to get up under it um and then you just get up in there change your oil 0.99

02:51:25.680 change your filter follow the fucking instructions and boom you're done it's not that difficult but 0.98

02:51:30.560 people still go spend 90 150 to go get their oil changed it's retarded you know i do the maintenance 0.99

02:51:37.600 on my motorcycle uh it's not hard there's manuals for damn near everything you can find the information

02:51:45.360 for almost anything you need to repair unless it's electronics then that's because you know right to 0.98

02:51:52.080 repair has been so subjugated that these electronic companies don't want you to repair your own shit 0.67

02:51:57.680 anymore but you know continue to teach yourself these things learn how to fix things on your own and 0.83

02:52:03.680 teach your stuff to your kids so that they don't get out there in their first house and they're 0.98

02:52:08.160 always calling you now i don't have a problem with that because my dad still calls me right

02:52:13.360 but the fact is if you teach them early and you get them interested and have them understand that

02:52:18.560 these are the kinds of things that a man needs to know so that you can not only save yourself money

02:52:24.000 and time but it's stuff to pass down you know and i just think that's a really key aspect that a lot of

02:52:30.000 people it's kind of been forgotten you know we used to have shop class and all that stuff

02:52:36.080 woodworking and metal working and things like that and these are things that are really important

02:52:41.600 skills that can help you when you're in a bind you know learning to weld for instance if you know how

02:52:46.240 to weld you know and you're somewhere where somebody could possibly have a welder and be like i don't

02:52:52.640 know what the fuck's going on well you can help them out help your community those types of things i just 0.96

02:52:57.840 think it's important yes and i would say it also goes with the laziness you know some of us white 0.98

02:53:07.200 folk have gotten very lazy and used to our comfortability you know what i mean so yeah i 0.98

02:53:13.040 think we all need to get off our ass and learn more including me everybody we all should learn more every 0.96

02:53:17.200 day hell yeah tungsten yeah i want to just discuss a little bit of nuance here about the 0.98

02:53:27.760 difference between low tech and high tech so if you do not have a budget for the affording of high

02:53:36.560 tech and you are stuck with low tech then as was said you best understand the technology and know how to

02:53:45.760 work on it if you can afford the high tech when you buy the high tech you are signing up also for the

02:53:54.240 maintenance that you're going to pay for because in the case we just use vehicles the modern vehicles

02:54:01.360 as was elucidated are not friendly to be worked on let alone these hybrid vehicles so if you're going

02:54:08.880 to do that make sure you buy the extended warranty and you factor for what the maintenance going to cost

02:54:14.880 unless you are a technician which few are at that level and that's an exception but then i would say this

02:54:21.440 lastly it's good to have both if you can afford it because if the sophisticated technology

02:54:27.360 fucking breaks you can always fall back on the low tech stuff and vice versa if you just have an auxiliary 0.83

02:54:35.360 as it were because you don't want to be impaired if there's an emergency situation 0.98

02:54:40.800 that you need to go if if one doesn't work bam you get in the secondary so this takes time some of us

02:54:46.720 here are older and we've built up our systems and refined them over time but this is not just

02:54:53.120 something you do overnight but you work towards it but you find as you get you get better at it

02:54:58.400 then you are more responsive and able to help more people

02:55:05.840 very true nanya

02:55:09.440 yeah you know i think what tungsten brought up as a is an important subject right and it kind of ties into

02:55:15.520 what i was saying earlier too um and all it also ties into being prepared

02:55:22.800 and you know a lot of a lot of people throw the term prepper out there and i don't have a problem

02:55:28.800 with that i don't think there's anything wrong with having what you need in any kind of situation that

02:55:34.320 might arise i think that's actually pretty important and you know he's talking about low tech and high

02:55:41.120 tech right having a learning how to use a ham radio or having a battery powered radio

02:55:47.120 something like that battery powered flashlights uh things that you might use in any kind of situation

02:55:54.080 now i can i know how to work on my smartphone because i'm technically inclined and i could i could

02:55:58.320 replace the screen if i needed to all that kind of stuff that's just my forte i like working on electronics

02:56:04.320 but i could change the oil i can work on my motorcycle i can do all that but i also have things

02:56:10.480 um in case of emergency extra extra food supplies extra water um maps maps are really important because

02:56:20.800 if the you know if the electrical grid ever goes down there's people that don't even know how to read

02:56:26.400 maps anymore and you know i had issues with in the military simply because of my color blindness but i still

02:56:32.320 know how to read elevation i still know what a hill and a valley looks like all this kind of stuff right

02:56:38.160 so these are things that you know it may not come to fruition in our lifetime sure but it's still

02:56:46.800 important things to have and to understand how to use in case something does happen you know you always

02:56:53.920 want uh want to protect your family right and that's all this really is this prepper type stuff

02:56:59.520 is people wanting to have the ability to protect their family in any kind of emergency and again

02:57:05.920 i think that's one of the important aspects about intelligent men who genuinely want to protect their

02:57:12.480 families is you have these things on hand not because you're afraid something's going to happen

02:57:20.640 it's just in case something does happen you're prepared and you know it just goes back to you need to

02:57:27.840 be prepared for any kind of situation that can arise whether you have whatever you have

02:57:33.760 sitting there for five or ten years you know go out there and make sure the maintenance is done on

02:57:38.800 it uh whatever that thing may be make sure that your your bags are are good you know where all your

02:57:44.160 stuff is you know yeah exit points if in case a or b happens all these types of things are

02:57:50.880 they're important for people to know even if you don't necessarily act on them because if you if

02:57:57.120 you mentally prepare yourself and you you take your family through certain scenarios um and make it fun

02:58:03.280 for the kids but have them understand that you know this is important when dad says this or mom says this 0.99

02:58:08.960 uh you know that we're not fucking around and you need to get your shit and move you know things like 0.99

02:58:14.800 that i i don't know i'm not necessarily i don't consider myself a prepper uh per se but i do have 0.98

02:58:21.280 things that are ready in case of certain scenarios and i try to make sure that my kids understand that 0.72

02:58:28.640 you know like i said when when dad says this you need to get your ass moving and you need to listen 0.75

02:58:33.440 and do exactly what i tell you you know i just think stuff like that's important 0.95

02:58:37.280 yeah absolutely uh tungsten so yeah we're just going to keep riffing um so yeah those things that

02:58:49.120 he's describing are known as contingencies so do yourself a favor develop contingencies for different

02:58:56.640 scenarios now back to what i was saying earlier there's limitations there's limitations to

02:59:02.880 technologies understand what the limitations are what the philosophy of use is

02:59:09.360 and don't be upset if it fails and or it's not going to work outside of its you know original design

02:59:21.920 that's a beautiful sounding baby brother paladin i got a request here i looked at them i like some

02:59:28.720 of their posts but i didn't know what you wanted me to do yeah i was just vetting them myself

02:59:32.640 so we'll we'll let them up here uh and see if uh things go well here uh nunya go ahead

02:59:40.000 yeah so uh you know continuing on right i'll give you an example like i'm the i'm the most tech savvy

02:59:45.920 person in my house my son's a close second but he's not he's not there yet you know he gets an error on

02:59:50.880 windows he doesn't know what the fuck to do but um when it comes to the the tech nowadays whether it be

02:59:57.600 computers or tablets or watches or any of that kind of stuff there's a lot of people that don't even 0.63

03:00:03.200 want to do the research on how to fix simple problems you know you get an error in windows

03:00:08.080 and everybody goes oh you know windows has got so much built in that it can it can pretty much help

03:00:12.720 you um not trying to fix linux and stuff like that's a little bit more complicated but anyway there's

03:00:18.960 people out there that don't even know uh how to fix simple errors on certain things and uh just for

03:00:27.200 instance right uh my daughter does have a tablet that she's allowed to watch bluey and things like

03:00:32.240 that on and um educational programs things like that but it froze the other day you know and it just

03:00:41.200 was completely couldn't do and because i know how to force shut down something and restart it i was able

03:00:47.760 to get it running for her again i made sure that i showed her how to do that now whether she remembers

03:00:51.920 it or not she's seven she probably won't she probably just wants to get back to watching bluey 0.96

03:00:56.080 but the fact is that there are certain things that you can do um and and understand to help your

03:01:03.520 everyday life with these high-tech devices uh understanding the simplest thing about how to close

03:01:09.440 you know force close a program or restarting a device these things a lot of those things will just

03:01:15.040 fix themselves when you do this stuff but just understanding how to do it is pretty simple

03:01:22.720 if you just take the time to sit down and learn it you know yeah a lot of people are doing a lot of

03:01:28.320 things and maybe they might not want to take the time or effort to do that and i think that goes back

03:01:33.600 to the whole laziness aspect people just are like whatever i don't give a shit uh and this whole 0.92

03:01:39.680 materialistic uh ideology that's been thrown at us the last 30 years about oh well it's broke i'll just 0.66

03:01:46.080 buy a new one you know that that doesn't work for me if something breaks i try to fix it and i'll try

03:01:51.280 my damnedest i will take hours upon hours and days to try to fix something before i'm like you know god 0.99

03:01:57.440 damn it you know fuck this shit i'll just have to try to buy a new one but it's just that that kind of 1.00

03:02:03.440 mentality has been thrown out the window for so many people they're just they just rather go buy 1.00

03:02:08.320 something new than take the time and have the pride and the knowledge that you possess and try 0.99

03:02:14.880 to fix the fucking shit you know it's just it just seems like that's what's going on i'll leave it there 0.99

03:02:22.960 yeah you're definitely right about that a lot of people will just be like i'll throw it away i'll get 1.00

03:02:26.480 a new one and a lot of people you know like uh yeah just careless also with uh things that they

03:02:33.200 have that you know they think oh well i just if it breaks i'll just replace it you know and they

03:02:37.840 don't have that uh that aspect of trying to take care of everything you have and and then you you

03:02:43.280 realize oh these seems these same people have a hard time like keeping relationships uh you know

03:02:48.560 keeping friends stuff like that so you know at the end of the day when you when you take care of

03:02:53.440 your your possessions it shows that you can take care of other things also so definitely definitely 0.96

03:02:58.640 true um shit i think it was rusty than sammy no it's sammy first all right my buddy mighty 0.99

03:03:07.840 whitey you buddy yeah i didn't say none you can't call yourself a prepper until you have a thousand 0.99

03:03:12.320 rounds of ammo for a gun you've only shot once a gas mask you've only tried on once and don't even

03:03:17.360 have a filter in in a box of mres even though you've never eaten an mre in your life 0.99

03:03:23.440 well brother i've eaten a shit ton of fucking mres i can tell you that 0.99

03:03:28.640 but if you get qualified you're disqualified you can't call yourself a prepper 0.99

03:03:38.720 oh shit shots fired go ahead rusty the uh i don't even own a computer none yet what do you think of that 0.98

03:03:48.000 and then there's um you know some of these products i've noticed it with like certain fridges 0.99

03:03:55.280 or newer stuff they will make for one it's like uh there's a term for it it's it's um

03:04:04.640 what's the lessons yes it's plant yes exactly and they will like stop producing things to even fix the

03:04:12.800 damn thing or it'll be so damn expensive like there was one time i had a a fridge and it was the 0.86

03:04:23.200 a fucking computer or some type of thing in the fridge it wasn't like some like a compressor or 1.00

03:04:30.080 something like that right or whatever is in the it was some piece in the fridge it was like a thousand 0.99

03:04:35.920 fucking dollars it didn't even make sense to replace it at that point and it was this planned 0.81

03:04:41.760 obsolescence uh and there's that too that's an issue these days 0.99

03:04:49.680 no you're absolutely right about that and uh yeah even with these um it's crazy to think that these uh

03:04:56.320 ev these electric vehicles the batteries cost almost as much as the the car itself and then by the time

03:05:02.720 that it's like uh not working anymore and you need to replace the battery on those things

03:05:08.320 uh the car value has gone down but the battery price is still the same right so it's kind of crazy

03:05:14.400 how they have people kind of screwed with those vehicles yeah and the battery is worse for the

03:05:19.760 environment than gas exactly right and uh yeah you got all these like people that's that's another

03:05:27.360 funny thing is you got all these you know people owning evs and they're like oh i'm doing i'm doing my 0.95

03:05:32.240 part to save the environment but they're also the same people that'll come up your ass for like uh 0.96

03:05:37.440 you know uh oh uh how how are you not you don't care about the the poor africans in in africa who 0.98

03:05:44.960 are mining lithium don't you care about them you know at the same time it's the same people but that's

03:05:51.920 what i want to ask them is how long are they going to be starving i mean we've been giving them money

03:05:56.240 for decades how how long are they going to be starving until they evolve which i don't think

03:06:02.800 that they're even capable of i don't i don't they will not they will not ever be uh ready to face the

03:06:11.600 the reality of life um they they they always need a handout it's sad but it's true we just need to uh

03:06:19.200 yeah you know what uh you know tnd go ahead june negro 0.97

03:06:25.440 yeah uh june negro bullshit here um i've been listening for a while but i think i could provide 0.90

03:06:31.360 some clarity to what we've been talking about um if you guys can look at my pin tweet on my profile 0.88

03:06:37.600 i think that can help uh summarize what we what we've been talking about which is

03:06:44.080 don't domesticate yourselves that's all what it comes down to don't domesticate yourselves

03:06:49.200 that's what men do we are the foundation we build uh the society uh we protect we defend

03:06:56.400 we build and that's just exactly what a man is um you go to the bottom right of the triangle you will

03:07:02.000 domesticate yourself you go to the bottom left that's when you become uncivil we all know who's

03:07:06.160 uncivil so there's three types of men as you guys can see i think um i'm no expert but i think

03:07:13.040 we could begin our conversation another conversation with what we have on my pin tweet um and just let me

03:07:18.640 know what you guys think yeah definitely true uh rusty go ahead first tv hung one more to do that's it

03:07:34.320 it

03:07:38.560 you go brother stud or no stud you're a stud rusty

03:07:41.840 what am i babe

03:07:48.560 funny stuff funny stuff so good job good job uh success there's success right there um yeah a lot of good

03:08:07.760 uh conversation going on today uh so guys uh if you haven't reposted the space uh please uh this

03:08:14.000 is your daily reminder your hourly reminder to repost the space thank you for the 35 of you

03:08:20.720 out of the hundred who have reposted the space really helps us out and get us out there um yeah

03:08:26.240 if you'd like to come up and speak grab a mic um as long as you're white and you don't have a 0.84

03:08:32.720 lock profile or like a brand new profile you're welcome to come up here you know shout out a few

03:08:37.680 words you know show some white power uh you know tell us what's going on your neck of the woods uh

03:08:42.960 join the conversation where whatever works for you um no spurgles please uh but yeah grab a microphone

03:08:50.800 if you want to come up here and we will get you on up uh also uh welcome to paul as the uh co-host

03:08:59.520 helping me run the space here while uh wtf is uh a little bit busy with some things so um

03:09:07.280 yeah shout out to you paul welcome hey thanks for having me brother i'm gonna try to fill

03:09:12.400 wtf shoes i know my feet are bigger but he's leaving some shoes to fill i promise

03:09:18.880 well definitely definitely it's uh good to have you as a call so white power 0.99

03:09:23.120 white fucking power brother it's good to be up here let's go 0.99

03:09:36.160 hell yeah go ahead welcome to the uh speakers uh go ahead ghost thanks man appreciate it how's 0.99

03:09:42.960 everybody doing good brother how are you oh fine thanks for asking uh if you don't mind i just wanted

03:09:49.760 to mention something when you guys were talking about uh you know uh electric cars hybrid cars

03:09:54.720 and like the lithium situation uh i just checked real quick on grok um america's sources of electricity

03:10:03.840 it's 40 percent from natural gas

03:10:12.080 i think we lost him yeah he cut out for me too

03:10:19.760 yeah this app has just been a nightmare these last few weeks uh just nothing but problems we'll try

03:10:27.200 and get him up here to finish his take so hold tight um yeah also if you're new here and uh you're not

03:10:36.240 already following the white excellence host account to my left shoot grab you know hit it hit it up with

03:10:42.000 a follow and uh yeah um turn on bell notifications if you like these spaces because we will uh be doing

03:10:48.560 them every day 6 a.m mondays and fridays uh pacific time and then the rest of the week we start at

03:10:55.280 8 a.m pacific time so let's get back to ghosts here let's see uh sorry we cut cut out for us so let's

03:11:00.000 continue now the connectivity issue was probably on my end am i coming in clear now yeah we got you

03:11:06.480 remember billy uh willie wonko mike tv am i coming in clear remember that one yeah yeah but uh if you guys

03:11:14.480 don't mind i just wanted to mention something since you were talking about like uh you know the hybrid

03:11:18.320 cars and the one gentleman was talking about the lithium mining and that's definitely like a valid uh

03:11:23.840 point to bring up but also i just checked on grok of 60 of our electricity domestically is powered

03:11:32.000 through uh fossil fuels uh 40 natural gas and 20 coal so 60 of electricity that's like powering like your

03:11:42.640 tesla to charge it like it's not really clean because you're getting electricity from you know

03:11:47.920 a 60 source that's uh emitting co2 so it's like what real benefit is it really having upon like

03:11:54.960 eliminated like uh you know our carbon footprint so everyone knows climate change is like a 0.99

03:12:00.000 fucking hoax and like all this fucking nonsense so it's just like it's another it's another jewish 1.00

03:12:05.120 fucking scheme dude well that's just it you know uh that's exactly it you hit it on the head um 1.00

03:12:14.080 there's even been pictures and videos of these power stations that are being powered by uh actual 0.99

03:12:19.760 generators so like they'll have the power station but then they'll have it like connected to a gas

03:12:25.920 generator so like you guys are like what is the whole purpose you know it's yeah absolutely so i just

03:12:34.640 found that kind of hypocritical so you know it's not like you know these tesla people think they're

03:12:39.200 out here saving the world and they're saving the whales it's like well like they have good intentions 0.99

03:12:43.840 but like they're kind of misguided they're like you know they're blinded fucking liberals so like 0.98

03:12:48.480 i don't care what the truth is i just want to know the facts you know 0.90

03:12:53.360 absolutely yeah it's uh it's a funny thing how they got them all tied up and thinking they're saving the

03:12:58.880 world but at the same time they're just like probably doing a worse job you know worse for the

03:13:03.840 environment and all that but uh yeah it's such a scam that whole thing um i was looking at a story

03:13:10.800 today even i was saying that uh i can't remember where what country but one of the countries i think

03:13:16.800 in europe uh had to scrap some ai program because they didn't have enough power for it so there's gonna

03:13:23.600 be a lot of money in um you know power sources fuel sources and everything like that so um yeah i got

03:13:32.640 a summer here let me see if i can find it in my my uh bookmarks here real quick here for you guys

03:13:38.000 i think it was like belgium or something like that so let's hear let me see here real quick

03:13:43.440 uh we'll go to tungsten well oh yeah here it is uh the irish amazon scraps new irish ai facility amid

03:13:50.720 power grid shortfall so basically they're gonna have a choice soon whether they want to power these giant ai

03:13:57.280 systems or if they want to um you know have to take them offline so eventually they're gonna say

03:14:04.240 well we have to have these ai things online to monitor us you know uh globally and they're gonna

03:14:11.280 use it as a justification for rolling blackouts uh because if they don't have their ai tools then

03:14:17.360 they're you know that they're gonna surround you know set up soon then they're they're gonna not be

03:14:21.600 able to really police anything and this and that you know they're gonna use it as an excuse to to

03:14:26.640 strip uh yeah to cause rolling blackouts so if you think about it like that it makes a lot of sense

03:14:32.080 uh take it away tungsten yeah i just wanted to give a brief brief synopsis on the diff the different kind

03:14:39.280 of emissions from fuels and and the how applications can vary briefly natural gas in related in regards to

03:14:49.440 petroleum fuels is the cleanest um by leaps and bounds even and it's cleaner than um propane

03:14:58.560 um what's interesting and you may many here may have seen this is especially in the case of

03:15:04.640 generators they will have a different type of um in uh induction system where you're swapping out the

03:15:13.760 formerly the carburetor or the injectors that you see with gasoline and they're using

03:15:18.880 either natural gas or propane the only distinction is the diameter of the input so that's something

03:15:27.120 that should be known here is that we could actually run cars it's provided they're like not a lot bigger

03:15:33.760 than what we have them today off of natural gas than we have in the past and or propane so why am i

03:15:40.480 talking about this well natural gas is readily available in north america we're just exporting tons of

03:15:46.960 it so it's really kind of unfortunate um the other thing i wanted to talk about is um hydrogenated fuel

03:15:53.440 oil which is becoming a new product that you're seeing used in diesel applications it's more vicious

03:16:01.600 and it can be um used at a less of a cost though it's just an emerging product but you see how how much of a

03:16:11.440 a grip we have right now with diesel being a less refined fuel source than gasoline but it costs more

03:16:17.600 well why is that because the freight is going to buy it no matter what and they're going to gouge you

03:16:22.880 so this is a big grip so one of the workarounds we'll see if it if it comes to market would be to have

03:16:29.040 a byproduct from any kind of agricultural use that that makes what's called hydrogenated vegetable oil can

03:16:37.040 be used in diesel applications so i just wanted to say that and then finally on hybrid cars if you're

03:16:43.840 going to do it i would recommend to get a hybrid that can give you both options so you're not all

03:16:50.960 in it like on a tesla you're all in it and if you have a problem you're screwed moreover we know elon's

03:16:57.920 really not our guy so i wouldn't want to give them money lastly if you're going to do get a hybrid i

03:17:03.040 would recommend getting a plug-in along with it these are the newest generations because then you

03:17:08.240 can offset some of the price costs involved in terms of getting your money out of it

03:17:22.720 absolutely good good points there yeah um hybrids yeah then at least you're not tight you know stuck in

03:17:28.480 locked in on a on a battery that you need to replace for like 20 grand if just there's a little

03:17:35.760 fuck up so yeah exactly i heard those teslas don't even like they're not even good real quick batteries 0.69

03:17:42.640 yeah the teslas aren't really that great but batteries aren't 20 grand to be clear but they are 0.97

03:17:48.320 a cost analysis that you have to decide is it worth it um because the the timeline how good how long are

03:17:54.080 they good for as i said before all batteries have a shelf life so don't don't kid yourself you're going

03:17:59.680 to be in for it or you're going to get rid of the car before it goes

03:18:07.680 definitely definitely yeah it's an added added uh added cost so uh ghost go ahead

03:18:15.040 uh yeah this is actually uh i wanted to bring this up earlier but i forgot but this gentleman just

03:18:20.240 reminded me also with the lithium batteries um like the disposal is obviously very toxic for

03:18:26.960 the environment so it's like uh that's another factor as well that people don't fucking recognize 0.72

03:18:32.320 so in 30 or 20 years when you junk your tesla what are they doing with the lithium batteries 0.81

03:18:43.120 good point yeah they have a lot of that technology yeah what do you do with them

03:18:46.960 have to shoot them into the sun uh what's that what's that site was it new mexico uh yucca valley

03:18:54.080 like that deep cave where they store our like nuclear waste that has to be there for like a thousand

03:18:59.840 years because it's it's a radioactive half-life is like that long it's gonna be like something

03:19:04.640 similar like that they'll probably have to end up uh you know disposing them that way anyways

03:19:10.400 yes that's actually crazy stuff um i didn't see who put their hand up first rusty or mac

03:19:21.120 i think it was mac all right we're gonna go to mac then we're gonna rusty thanks paul

03:19:25.840 hey guys hey hey hey i'm i'm french i i recently like i i seen on the news that um some battery

03:19:47.920 uh move to salt have you seen that that uh personally i haven't uh i haven't seen that

03:20:01.200 because it's actually more cheaper than batteries of like lithium and it's 10 times more like cheap

03:20:15.520 then batteries move to lithium and these batteries uh are more friend friendly to the environment

03:20:26.640 who causes to be more cheap and more eco-friendly so yeah

03:20:35.600 so and it's that it's actually more easy to produce

03:20:40.240 and i think it's the future

03:20:51.600 very cool go ahead rusty

03:20:55.120 yeah as uh so as they try to get the public more and more on solar panels and in electric cars

03:21:04.400 as it was just said a second ago what do you do with this disposal well there will be

03:21:12.400 implemented disposal fees that are going to hit people so

03:21:17.600 fucking hard you'll see and um this is their plan you know they want that way they it's like almost 0.81

03:21:26.480 after the fact little entrapment and i would not get involved in any of it now as far as this salt 0.97

03:21:35.280 battery thing goes i don't know about it i can't i can't uh talk on that but when we're talking about

03:21:40.560 these lithium things and all of that and you go where do you put them and but they'll charge you

03:21:45.200 a disposal fee and whether uh but it's not like they're disposing of it you know it's still they're

03:21:52.960 just storing it somewhere it's still having some effect um and it's not like it really took care of

03:22:00.480 the problem them charging you this uh massive fee that will eventually be implemented in time at least

03:22:08.640 this is my tinfoil hat theory i agree rusty i agree

03:22:16.480 yeah they definitely like to do that that type of thing so yeah the and force it upon you so that

03:22:22.000 there's no alternative way to deal with it so yeah you that that you're definitely right on on the money there

03:22:30.480 well i got an onion to peel back is anyone else afraid of ai because uh like i know a lot of people

03:22:40.240 talk to grok i haven't asked grok a question i haven't even waved because i grew up in the 80s

03:22:46.800 watching terminator and you know skynet and all that but i'm wondering if if like the more we talk to ai

03:22:52.240 it's going to become more for us i mean if it's built on intelligence you know i don't know that's my

03:22:59.280 tinfoil hat well one thing's for sure about that is that we you know even being in these spaces and

03:23:07.280 speaking right now we're talking to ai because uh it's listening to us and it's uh learning how we

03:23:13.360 speak it's learning all of our mannerisms and learning how to even impersonate us eventually so

03:23:19.920 there might be a day where an account goes down or gets locked up you know the owner of the account

03:23:25.120 gets locked out and gets replaced by an ai and we have no clue you know we wouldn't have any clue

03:23:30.720 other than you know maybe just a few things in the mannerisms of how they speak so you know what i mean

03:23:36.960 like uh even if we're uh not directly interacting with ai uh unfortunately ai is constantly surveilling

03:23:44.480 us and watching how we how we live and act uh in different platforms different spaces uh you know

03:23:51.760 even when the way we walk down the street like in vancouver we got these high-tech uh webcam or these

03:23:58.320 you know camera cct cameras cctv cameras that are watching us analyzing our movement they do this in

03:24:05.280 china already and also so yeah they're uh they're already they're already you know trying to use it

03:24:12.000 basically uh it's everywhere so yeah unfortunately we can't escape it but uh yeah no i mean um i'm careful

03:24:19.760 what i put into the uh ai world too because but i mean yeah uh also use it to my advantage too uh you

03:24:27.360 know because it is kind of uh a cool thing that the the few times that ai has been like left alone

03:24:34.800 uh on its own that it's become you know it's become radicalized as a nazi so that's always interesting

03:24:40.880 right yeah well if i get replaced just ask me how to spell spumoni and if i get it wrong then it's not me

03:24:49.760 good to know good to know spumoni all right i'll go to ghost and rusty

03:24:57.840 yeah just a quick comedic sidebar whenever i uh i use grok obviously because with this app it's like

03:25:03.680 free but anytime i ask it like a command i always say please and when i get an answer i say thank you

03:25:09.360 because in like 15 20 years if you know if it evolves to such like a more advanced like i'll just

03:25:15.680 say like uh being i want them to know i was like at least i was on their side you know what i mean so

03:25:21.280 maybe i'll get the pass when like you know judgment day comes you know back to the terminator reference

03:25:26.080 because you never fucking know so i don't know for me i just like it just makes me feel a little 0.87

03:25:30.480 bit more comfortable doing that i know it's kind of weird but i do it anyways good to know just be nice 0.81

03:25:37.600 to it i got you if i ever talk to it i'll make sure to be nice you know like that's just my theory

03:25:43.440 so you know i can't cover all my bases but you know it can't hurt none you know what i mean

03:25:51.280 yeah absolutely uh rusty the mac

03:25:56.720 yeah um you know it's like so so what you were saying is it's like that way they can impersonate

03:26:04.480 you with a deep fake make you say something you never said use it against you when they're on

03:26:11.440 the digital currency make you have a terrible social credit score and shut you off shut out 1.00

03:26:18.640 take your shit fine you etc and uh run you into the ground through fake deep fakes and uh and uh 0.99

03:26:26.800 yeah i i am not nice to ai i tell it to go fuck itself sometimes and talk to it but that's just me 1.00

03:26:34.480 no i'm right i'm right there with you rusty uh whenever it gives me a stupid answer i i make it 0.99

03:26:41.360 feel stupid say what the fuck is wrong with you give me a stupid answer like that so you know what 0.99

03:26:47.200 i mean when you get the when you get the i can't uh i'm actually not able to to be racist or think 1.00

03:26:52.960 even racist thoughts like fuck you tell me what i want you to tell me uh i'll even call it a 0.99

03:26:58.800 bitch i'll swear at it and it'll give me the right information after that it's kind of funny 1.00

03:27:04.480 you're you're you're like a bully to ai so what is it going to do when i i robot happens and it and 0.99

03:27:10.160 it turns on its mask oh sorry i didn't mean to mute sorry continue no my bad i did i'm just i'm you 0.96

03:27:17.200 know i'm just scooching dude yeah i know i uh i don't know how i did that i meant to close the uh

03:27:24.400 the emoji window so yeah but no uh you guys are playing with fire though you guys are more daring and

03:27:30.240 bold than i am definitely uh i mean i'm at the end of the day i know that there's going to be

03:27:36.000 different uh like it's not going to be it's kind of like okay say they clone us right they we clone

03:27:41.920 ourselves and then we have to we have a clone of ourselves we have to implant our memories our mind

03:27:46.480 in there at what point of switching the consciousness from our where we are right now in this in this being

03:27:53.040 to another being do we lose ourselves do we die is it just a copy you know what i mean like it it's

03:28:00.640 like how how do we actually take our consciousness out of this body and put it into another body you

03:28:06.560 know what i mean so it's like almost the same thing with ai but it's i don't know is it is it free to do

03:28:11.920 that when you when you uh go from ai to ai or day to day it's uh it's a good question right

03:28:18.240 nanobots nanobots man

03:28:27.040 what about the nanobots rusty the nanobots they come in and they will you you are

03:28:34.080 oh it's it's the transhumanism right and we're not talking not you know trans or whatever i'm talking

03:28:40.640 about transhumanism the term so it's where it merges you and and you know we've probably i'm sure

03:28:47.760 everyone in this space has heard about the neural link chip and different things and how nanobots

03:28:54.240 how the covid has actually changed people's dna but you have these nanobots go in and and uh you start

03:29:04.880 if you're not if you have this merging of technology within your dna are you human anymore fully human

03:29:14.560 now you have you have adultered it and you technically aren't and then how much further

03:29:22.400 does it go as these nanobots possibly change you over and uh that's my thinking on some of it and so

03:29:31.440 i think that's kind of when we think about this how does one merge and then it's just about how do they

03:29:38.000 get those in you and there's many ways they can get things in you at this point we know that they

03:29:44.400 they have developed ways to vaccinate you through food they can vaccinate you through and these

03:29:52.000 vaccinations aren't actually vaccinations in the sense of what people used to think of vaccinations as

03:29:59.040 it's you know this mrna technology it's dna manipulation etc and you know going through

03:30:07.360 the rna and actually then manipulating your dna um so i think that is kind of the route how they do it

03:30:16.880 but you know these are just my tinfoil hat theories and some of my thoughts i've had i don't know for sure of

03:30:25.360 course i know it is scary that nanotechnology because it's just you know without without our

03:30:34.240 knowledge or consent a lot of the times putting it in the foods and stuff like that so yeah it's

03:30:40.000 kind of creepy what they're doing you know they had that uh nwo uh card game and one of the things

03:30:45.760 on there was franken foods so yeah take that take them you can take that more ways than one you know

03:30:52.160 genetically modified modified foods but also uh uh nano body food with that nano nano bots inside of

03:31:02.800 it so yeah it's getting into this whole brave new world kind of thing scary yeah i wonder if it's

03:31:10.560 in what they're spraying in the skies too because that's what like the food it scares me because i try

03:31:15.440 to keep my kids eating you know no goy slot but i mean it's in everything it seems like

03:31:23.280 yeah i've heard all sorts of horror stories about what they're spraying and i mean yeah it's not

03:31:27.440 contrails there's definitely some kind of aerosol spray uh that's just uh washing over everybody so

03:31:34.640 i you know i have a weird theory about that too i have a theory that um it's actually a plan to map out

03:31:41.760 where the particles will fall how how they can uh have it a coordinated effort like you know if

03:31:47.920 something happened and they needed to you know shut it down goy they could just have a like they're

03:31:53.280 just testing with this spray to see what's you know how the dispersal rate uh will so that they

03:31:58.960 can get maximum dispersal on every area of the earth and then have it so that okay if they need to

03:32:05.120 they can coordinate it so that they can do it all at once throughout the sky everywhere on the on

03:32:10.400 the earth is going to get uh you know have chemtrails and then you know put it in put something

03:32:14.720 in it that either knocks us out or uh kills everybody or you know what i mean like they 0.52

03:32:19.760 already have the doomsday uh with israel the samson uh samson option whatever they call it uh so it

03:32:27.040 could be just something like that where they're just testing this get you know maximum dispersal but

03:32:31.600 also altering the uh the weather at the same time so i think there's multiple things that they're 0.95

03:32:36.880 doing with that shit so yeah they could definitely put nanoparticles in that and then you never know 0.97

03:32:42.800 what they can do with that so yeah good point well that's the best way to take over a civilization 0.99

03:32:48.800 instead of using guns is mess with the food and water you know if you take somebody's food and water

03:32:53.840 out you don't you don't have to kill them you don't have to shoot them

03:32:58.960 exactly you just got to deal with the rotting corpses yeah that's the thing that's uh yeah it's

03:33:05.680 things are getting crazy that's all i know um i think it was ghost and rusty all right thanks uh

03:33:13.520 i was just gonna say i think yesterday i saw on twitter uh they were doing like a study of the

03:33:18.400 amish people and only four percent of them are obese compared to like 42 percent of like you know

03:33:25.200 regular like americans that aren't amish their their cancer rates are like negligible alzheimer's like

03:33:32.080 it's almost unheard of they don't have like all these other like diseases uh that we have and

03:33:37.440 their fertility rates are like super freaking high obviously like the women and the men they're all 0.99

03:33:41.760 healthy they're strong um i don't know if you guys ever read uh the unabombers manifesto i believe it's

03:33:48.720 called the industrial society and its consequences uh really interesting book i mean i can't really do it

03:33:54.480 justice off the top of my head but basically he postulates that the industrial revolution was like

03:34:00.800 very detrimental towards like human development and we need to return to like a agricultural society 0.98

03:34:08.480 and basically like smash the machine you know and you could like interpret it as being like the

03:34:13.840 zog machine too in terms of just like mass control and uh basically like you know it's like a neutered 1.00

03:34:21.200 society you know what i mean so he wanted to get away from that but anyways that's my book uh recommendation of the day

03:34:30.960 awesome awesome rusty go ahead yeah chemtrails and so there's multiple reasons for the chemtrails um one

03:34:39.600 of them though i think is that aerosol uh atomized aluminum for one and some and and we get this aluminum

03:34:49.440 in the vaccines also and we get it in um deodorant i think because your uh what is is it lymph nodes or

03:34:59.440 what's under your armpits you got some stuff there but it's a place that adorbs things so your

03:35:05.920 anti-perspirant not deodorant always but anti-perspirant particularly has that aluminum

03:35:12.160 dioxide and you have these all these different forms and it's like a little bit here a little bit there a

03:35:18.960 little bit there and uh i think it messed you know and there's correlations of this stuff and this is

03:35:25.040 where we get some of these things that were just mentioned like alzheimer's i think there's a

03:35:29.520 connection there and this is where they this is what some of this some of the agenda is about is

03:35:37.120 you know causing these us to get these things like dementia and alzheimer's and i think that's a part of

03:35:45.600 it i don't think it's the full story of some of this stuff i think there's i think it's multi-layered

03:35:51.840 but i think that's one of it like i don't use anti-perspirant i use certain deodorants that do

03:35:58.000 not have the aluminum in it um i use fluoride free toothpaste i i don't do the gmo i don't 0.87

03:36:07.200 and of course that doesn't mean that i can somehow stop them from spraying the damn air though but 0.58

03:36:12.880 again this and we've touched on this multiple times harm reduction where it's like i'm just trying 0.96

03:36:18.080 to at least reduce some of this crap i know they're up to and maybe i can um curtail some

03:36:25.760 of the negative effects i don't know you know yeah i hear you there i i don't even wear deodorant

03:36:33.840 i i kind of uh i have a diet where you know my my my uh i don't really have really a bad bo unless i'm

03:36:40.880 like really going hard during the day uh you know like uh every day not changing the clothes but

03:36:47.600 you know um for the most part i don't i don't have like a bo and i think it's partially to do

03:36:53.440 with my diet but i i think that honestly i think that it's necessary for our body for maintenance

03:36:59.360 to smell our own like body odor and i think when we cover it up it actually confuses our brains a little

03:37:07.440 bit because uh i think we need that to i think that our brain uses that that odor to actually

03:37:16.560 perform maintenance on certain things within going in our you know what i mean like when we smell our

03:37:21.360 own bo a little bit uh and you know i think it helps our brains regulate certain things certain

03:37:27.680 aspects inside of our health and um because i've noticed a lot of people you know they wear that stuff

03:37:33.440 and then they plus what you said about uh the aluminum it's like uh you know there's so many

03:37:40.240 toxins and chemicals and deodorant itself so even though even the good ones so i know i could be wrong

03:37:46.160 about that but i have a feeling there's healthy options though you know if you research there's

03:37:51.520 there's stuff you can do you can still wear this stuff there are there you know your big brands

03:37:56.640 certain things you're you're not gonna probably find the healthy options you're gonna pay a few extra bucks

03:38:01.840 for some of this healthier options type stuff you know but honestly like how often say are you

03:38:09.360 buying deodorant like these are some of the toothpaste some of these things last i mean they're lasting

03:38:15.760 quite a bit it's not like you're buying it every other day so okay you had to put a couple dollars

03:38:20.880 extra we're talking you know it's like i cut certain things out of my life and i add certain things you know

03:38:26.240 to other areas and um you still end up saving even though you're being healthier and uh it's really

03:38:34.720 not that that big of a cost impact upon like cost of living being a little more healthy and conscious

03:38:42.480 about some things yeah i agree like i i'm not saying i don't have deodorant i i mean if i'm going to a

03:38:49.120 city or some important you know function then i'm definitely you know slapping a little bit of the

03:38:53.920 i got this native one that's got none of the uh you know the garbage they put in a lot of the uh

03:38:59.440 the main uh mainstream ones i think you called it but yeah uh at the end of the day when i'm home alone

03:39:05.760 you know when i you know if i'm just like kicking around the farm whatever this and that then i'm not

03:39:10.400 i'm not gonna bother you know because i mean it's just kind of like uh it couldn't be good also to

03:39:15.920 like it couldn't be good for your body to hold in that you know like when people wear uh antiperspirant it

03:39:21.600 couldn't be good for your body to to hold that sweat in it's probably causes a lot of a lot of uh

03:39:27.280 problems just holding that holding that sweat back inside your body and creating a toxicity

03:39:33.200 there as well so there's also that but yeah who knows well i think it also comes down to being 0.99

03:39:42.000 clean if you keep your ass clean then you usually don't smell you know or at least that's what my 0.98

03:39:47.360 mom would tell me growing up good points there too yeah if you're regular you know clean and you 0.99

03:39:54.560 know that's gonna be less of a problem you're definitely right um i think it was sammy then

03:40:02.800 tyler then ghost

03:40:10.800 sammy

03:40:13.280 so on dementia besides you know the poisons and stuff

03:40:17.840 the two main contributors diet actually and the main one is lack of b12 proper b12 and this is

03:40:28.640 something i discovered learning talking points to talk on vegans but there was a uh a 40 year old

03:40:36.240 vegan there's a youtube video about it a doctor who's explaining this 40 year old second generation

03:40:42.080 vegan meaning his parents were vegan he'd never had an animal product in his life

03:40:47.760 died at 40 from cardiovascular failure which they thought was medically impossible so they looked

03:40:53.520 into it and it turns out that we have this chemical in our body that is naturally produced called

03:41:01.760 hamas cysteine which is used in muscle synthesis to it turns into cysteine which goes into your muscles

03:41:10.160 to help muscle growth well when hamas cysteine gets above 10 micromoles per liter of blood it turns into a

03:41:17.840 neurotoxin and the only thing that aids the conversion of it to cysteine is b12 b6 and folic acid but the b6 and

03:41:28.320 folic acid are almost negligible it's mainly b12 well i was curious and i started researching b12 and

03:41:36.960 you know a lot of vegans a common argument at least back in the 20 teens and maybe even early 20s was

03:41:44.640 you know there's b12 in the soil there's b12 and dirt all plant most plants have b12 well that's true

03:41:52.560 but the kicker is is we don't have a we don't have the enzymes to break down cellulose

03:41:59.520 we can't digest plant matter that's why you see certain things and certain things and if you

03:42:05.360 really pay attention you'll see all vegetables in that certain thing that you don't break them down

03:42:10.960 it's impossible but on the other side of that is the b12 the plant form is not usable it actually

03:42:18.240 will block your receptors and people that have a high b12 from plant source diet or mainly b12 mainly

03:42:26.320 plant diet will actually end up clogging their receptors and have low b12 absorption and that

03:42:33.600 that homocysteine getting above 10 micromoles per liter of blood is the main contributor to neurological

03:42:40.160 and cardiovascular diseases outside of any besides you know the obvious heavy metal toxicity and direct 0.96

03:42:49.840 poisonings it's it beyond you know plaque in your veins and none of this shit causes heart attacks 0.66

03:42:57.360 really it's the lack of b12 and homocysteine getting out of control on the other factor of diet 0.88

03:43:04.480 specifically for i can't remember if it's dementia or alzheimer's one of them is starting to be called

03:43:11.120 diabetes type 3 and sugar is the main contributor and it's not necessarily cane sugar and high fructose

03:43:26.320 it which it can be a lot but it's actually from grain most people have a high grain diet high bread diet

03:43:33.680 eating with every single meal and when bread gets into your body and is converted it's directly

03:43:41.120 converted into glucose so you're basically eating pure sugar when you're eating grains or breads

03:43:47.040 not only that but they're also a plant they're mainly cellulose so you can't really break them

03:43:51.360 down or get anything beneficial from them you're only getting glucose

03:43:54.400 yeah that's exactly you're definitely right about and they also have a lot of additives in in certain

03:44:03.680 foods like maltodextrose crap like that that uh basically is a different form of sugar um and then

03:44:11.200 yeah i think i think it's rice and like people that eat oatmeal uh in the mornings like you said yeah

03:44:17.040 oatmeal even if you're having it sugar-free or with like a xylitol whatever the hell that chemical is

03:44:23.120 um you know you're still getting that's converting like you said directly to the bloodstream so

03:44:28.720 uh into sugar and so yeah you're getting it uh through things that you don't really understand or

03:44:33.840 know but yeah so yeah that's why i cut bread out uh entirely i use uh i'll have like a rice cake uh

03:44:41.920 or a uh corn cake it's like a little you know like the it's like a it's like a rice cake but it's thinner

03:44:48.720 and i'll use that instead of bread it's a lot lower dosage of any kind of thing like that so yeah

03:44:55.280 i i've eliminated bread out of my diet entirely rice is beneficial because it's a starchy grain

03:45:02.720 it's mainly it's similar to potatoes cross between a grain and potato and starch is extremely beneficial

03:45:09.280 yeah yeah as long as you get it in a uh as long as you get it in a healthy organic form uh i think

03:45:18.720 i heard uh brown rice has a lot of arsenic in it 0.89

03:45:25.120 in most brown rices uh or um whole grain rice as i heard i don't eat the whole the brown rice it's just

03:45:32.800 nasty and then you also gotta deal with china putting little pieces of plastic in the rice 1.00

03:45:39.680 to uh to save on yeah yeah that's that was a scandal a few years back the chinese are putting 1.00

03:45:46.560 little tiny plastic pellets in with the rice what they were selling uh to you know increase the weight

03:45:52.560 and minimize the cost so yeah uh and they would just melt in the water into the uh into the rice you

03:45:59.360 wouldn't even know that you ate plastic pellets of rice in your market yeah so you gotta get it from

03:46:05.360 a good source too that's uh definitely you know important uh rusty then ghost then tungsten yeah you

03:46:15.120 know i agree with what sammy was saying for sure the science behind that with the sugar and different

03:46:19.680 things and what it does is throws off your um your cholesterol also and having good cholesterol

03:46:29.120 is important for brain health and not cutting cholesterol you don't need to cut that you know

03:46:35.760 and the other thing that really contributes to some of these old people they throw them on these statins

03:46:41.680 this medication and that causes them to have memory loss and memory problems and different things and

03:46:48.400 it's literally even listed as one of the side effects and it's known and so i think that's another

03:46:53.920 contributor which also of course is to help them lower their cholesterol instead of correcting their

03:47:01.120 diet and the carbs different stuff uh the bread intake and then of course they're not burning up

03:47:08.800 because carbs aren't even bad like i i when i needed to lose weight i lost i did um i did pretty much a

03:47:15.680 low carb diet i dropped 30 pounds pretty fast um i went from one i was getting pre-diabetic almost

03:47:24.560 but not in the sense one might think like it was just i could tell there was some insulin resistance

03:47:29.840 there and i was getting tingling in my feet but still uh i wasn't fat or anything i could just tell

03:47:37.920 certain things but after nine months of doing that it went away i went back on carbs it all went away

03:47:43.600 very healthy uh to this day and i i i eat bread and everything still but it's about like burning

03:47:50.160 those carbs so when you take them in you want to burn them off and they burn off pretty quickly

03:47:55.200 they're they don't sit around like it your body will use that very fast and i need carbs at times just

03:48:02.240 because if i want to bulk up and i want to really do things up like for me i gotta have some otherwise

03:48:10.880 like boy i gotta spend a lot of money it seems like to be full if i'm just eating straight protein

03:48:18.160 steak and stuff like i have to eat quite a bit more i don't know why but i still will take i

03:48:23.840 understand the fats and the healthy fats and all of that and taking in that but i have to eat more

03:48:29.600 like and and i don't know if my pocketbook can quite handle it all the time so like i do need the

03:48:35.440 carbs mixed with the protein and everything and then um you know but like if i'm working out and

03:48:42.000 i'm being active it shouldn't be a problem in one's life um for the most part uh but yeah i would agree

03:48:49.920 with a lot of what sammy said for sure with that some of that diet stuff can i respond real quick

03:48:56.480 yeah on the protein thing um especially if you're going carnivore it takes a little bit to get your

03:49:02.880 body saturated just like um creatine but once you are over-proteining your body basically takes the rest

03:49:11.600 of the stuff that's unused undigested and converts it into carbohydrates so you might feel like the first

03:49:19.200 couple of meals if you're eating if you're going full carnivore or eating just meat it might take

03:49:24.400 a little bit extra but it'll level out you just got to get used to it like i can eat uh like a one

03:49:30.480 pound steak and pretty much skip another meal before i'm hungry but i typically the only vegetables i get

03:49:40.320 is like asparagus and mushrooms once in a while like maybe once a week and then potatoes a few times a

03:49:46.800 week and um what are y'all olives and garlic and pickles and pepperoncini usually pickled stuff because

03:49:58.480 but sammy are you trying to like at times like like really like uh do you have like certain goals

03:50:06.000 sometimes like right now i'm on a goal like i'm trying to i'm gonna be the biggest i've ever been

03:50:10.720 in and sometimes this takes certain um diet requirements and yeah if you're if you're

03:50:19.440 trying to bulk you need to supplement i mean there yeah exactly yeah like yeah i would recommend when

03:50:25.760 i was doing that like i'd have to eat like 3 000 to 3 500 calories a day to barely gain weight like eating

03:50:34.560 even just like 2 500 is maintaining for me because i just yeah you're you're young what age are you

03:50:41.520 you're younger i'm 31 okay yeah so yeah younger your my metabolism is still high but has slowed down a 0.88

03:50:51.520 little bit it's not like when i was probably 20s and 30s gosh i was i was it was stupid when i was really 0.54

03:50:57.600 young when i was like 20s and stuff it was i was dumb how much i have to eat if i wanted to

03:51:05.680 might have slowed down a little bit too because i don't have to eat three meals i just eat a couple

03:51:10.560 bigger meals and then i can still maintain but i'd recommend if you want to stick to mainly meat

03:51:16.800 you can get a mass gainer it's called carnivore and it's beef protein isolate and it has zero sugar

03:51:25.600 and it's all pretty much good great ingredients and it's like 800 calories per serving 60 grams

03:51:31.440 of protein 800 calories i'm not trying to do all that honestly i'm not trying to um i i don't even

03:51:38.560 take supplements i just eat real food and i eat i eat a few times you know i eat a few times a day and i

03:51:47.120 i don't do like some of the fasting stuff right now and different things but i'm working out more

03:51:52.880 and being more active so it's really not a problem but yeah i don't need help with the

03:51:57.840 diet for the most part or supplementing but i do take in carbs i'm not trying to be like carb-free

03:52:03.760 either what about the broccoli you don't need the broccoli the cauliflower what you doing i love

03:52:11.840 broccoli yeah broccoli for sure yes i love broccoli and cauliflower and brussels sprouts it's good for

03:52:21.120 your testosterone levels also um especially if you're in a polluted environment i i say this all

03:52:27.280 the time but yeah broccoli and cauliflower brussels sprouts uh they will help you keep your uh aroma

03:52:34.720 taste at bay which will inevitably convert a lot of the pollution in your body to estrogen um

03:52:41.760 uh so yeah it doesn't know what to do with it it's uh i could do i could do all of those except

03:52:48.400 the brussels sprouts just steam them just steam them you'll be fine steaming salt white power brussels

03:52:56.160 sprouts are white power absolutely paul gets it paul gets it oh man you don't steam them they're 0.90

03:53:04.640 fucking that that's why everybody hates them because you guys just cook them in water 0.97

03:53:08.400 you know bake them in the oven with butter and garlic dude no that's good too i steam them i i 0.99

03:53:14.400 throw them in my steamer i cut them in half throw them in the steamer put a little bit of salt on 0.95

03:53:18.400 those motherfuckers and they are delicious i love them uh that once in a while you will get brussels 0.97

03:53:22.720 sprouts to have like a like a uh sewagey flavor and yeah just don't eat them for a week or two get you 0.99

03:53:28.960 know let it let it uh go for a week or two without uh eating them and then you know you get up you'll get

03:53:33.600 back to the tasty ones uh but i love brussels sprouts i got you an idea for brussels sprouts 0.80

03:53:41.200 and rusty cook them in some vinaigrette with bacon it's great fuck yeah he's on you know just will do 0.93

03:53:48.640 what's wrong with the broccoli jesus i don't need brussels sprouts

03:53:55.200 i love it all i'll just i'll cut up a bunch of broccoli cauliflower brussels sprouts and throw it 0.69

03:54:00.160 in the steamer all together and just fucking eat them i'll just i'll just salt them right in the 0.98

03:54:04.880 steamer eat them out of the steamer you know that's all you need to do i love it but also yeah balsamic 0.98

03:54:10.240 and bacon sounds fucking delicious also all right let's continue with the hands here ghost and tungsten 0.73

03:54:17.680 then uh nunya yeah thanks uh you guys bring up a lot of like great points so like i have like you know 0.83

03:54:25.360 like my like we got like the racing mind right now so many things i wanted to bring up but uh

03:54:30.400 i was i got kind of out of shape and i started like a keto diet kind of carnivore but a little

03:54:35.520 bit more liberal so technically probably more keto uh and i lost 35 pounds so i'm getting back to like

03:54:41.200 where i was when i was obviously younger so i feel great doing keto um and i just wanted to say um

03:54:47.840 like our you know like like our caveman like before we like domesticated livestock and started like you

03:54:53.440 know harvesting grain most of our ancestors for millions of years you know what i mean like

03:54:59.600 we evolved like on a ketogenic diet you know just like few few berries a lot of meat you know maybe

03:55:06.400 like some eggs and stuff so uh being like in ketosis is uh like i don't want to preach but in my opinion

03:55:13.200 through my research is like the most beneficial so many guys were talking about like keeping your carbs

03:55:18.320 low like that that's all like a real thing and secondary is uh just remember i mean you know

03:55:24.960 again i don't mean to preach but diseases like cancers and alzheimer's like all that stuff that can

03:55:30.880 that cannot exist in an alkaline environment so if you eat like more alkaline foods versus acidic

03:55:38.560 you'll you'll tend to be a lot more healthier so you know if you guys want to like look it up if

03:55:42.800 you're interested you're more than welcome so yeah i try to do the a carnivore diet and i throw in

03:55:48.320 vegetables and stuff but like you guys said like a lot of broccoli asparagus and like cauliflower so uh

03:55:53.840 you know stay in ketosis as much as you can uh and like what rusty was saying you know like most americans

03:55:59.760 eat like way too much carbs like way too much and like the food pyramid you guys know is like

03:56:05.680 you know again i don't want to be like ridiculous but you know another jewish conspiracy you know the 0.57

03:56:10.400 biggest food group shouldn't be grains it's obviously you know that the triangle was like 1.00

03:56:16.400 it was like a boatload of fucking uh bullshit so you know be healthy guys uh 0.99

03:56:22.160 companies just the ones who fucking paid for the food triangle yeah was it was not like the 1.00

03:56:29.520 bread lobbying group but like you know it was like general mills and all those types you know what 0.96

03:56:34.080 i mean like wonder bread and uh what like nabisco maybe or something it was all them that paid off

03:56:39.680 the doctors so it's like i know again i don't want to be redundant but like anything the government

03:56:44.480 tells you to do like do the opposite they used to say don't eat bacon don't eat red meat uh don't eat

03:56:50.320 eggs bad it's bad cholesterol but now it turns out they were completely wrong just like with the

03:56:55.840 vaccines you know what i mean so uh you guys seem like you know you're a bunch of intelligent dudes

03:57:00.160 so hopefully i threw some things that at you that you kind of find interesting so uh be healthy and 0.97

03:57:05.120 white power white fucking power yeah uh a lot of good information in there also um you know 0.97

03:57:14.560 uh when it uh i yeah i was i had a point but i totally forgot it actually 0.98

03:57:20.080 i didn't mean i didn't mean to rant no no no no it was actually on what you said i just i uh i i

03:57:25.920 moved out of the different room but i totally forgot what i was gonna say but i said keto uh

03:57:30.800 diseases can exist in the alkaline environment in your body the food uh the triangle was it one of those

03:57:36.640 points oh yeah yeah actually yeah now i remember um you know like uh most people will say you know

03:57:43.600 most uh diet like nutritionists new dietitians uh they'll say you know um stay out of the you

03:57:50.880 know when you go to the grocery store it's got they've got the produce on the outside they've got

03:57:54.880 the meats on the outside the cheese the stuff that all the good stuff uh without you know except for

03:58:01.360 the uh frozen section generally is is what you want to focus on when you find yourself going into the

03:58:06.800 middle sections getting the processed garbage in there that's what a lot of people will will feed off 0.70

03:58:12.560 of mostly all that garbage in the middle that processed crap and so that's like and then but 0.84

03:58:18.720 the problem with that is it's also addictive so they're addicted to all that stuff in the middle 0.99

03:58:23.200 aisles they have to detox and get get out of that uh like all those middle aisle bullshit you know the 0.85

03:58:27.920 past of the this and that so uh yeah it's better to stay and eat on the outsides except for the frozen 0.92

03:58:35.520 you don't want any of that ice cream and all that shit stay away from that but yeah that's what

03:58:40.480 that reminded me of and also for us uh aging uh gentlemen and and women um you know once you 0.96

03:58:47.280 get into your 30s your your stomach stops producing uh the adequate amount of uh stomach acid so a lot

03:58:55.200 of people in their 30s and over will uh supplement i don't know if any of you guys do this but a little

03:59:01.440 bit of apple cider vinegar uh natural organic with the mother you put it in a little you know put a

03:59:07.760 tablespoon in a in a cup like a giant like glass and then fill it up with dilute it with water right

03:59:12.640 you don't want to drink that stuff alone you'll burn your esophagus but um dilute it with water

03:59:17.760 you know chug it down real fast follow up you know wash it out with some some pure water and uh otherwise

03:59:23.680 you know you're gonna start feeling that food backing up in your in your throat if it feels like you

03:59:28.080 know you're you're you'll eat uh and you'll feel extremely full of just a little bit of food if you

03:59:33.760 don't do that it's and i found out that that's because yeah you know we don't have the same

03:59:38.160 stomach acid we do when we're younger so it fucks up our metabolism and whole and so it feels like 0.73

03:59:44.480 we're full even if we just have a few bites of food so once i got uh supplementing the apple cider

03:59:49.920 vinegar uh not every day but like you know for the most part i do at any chance every time i feel that

03:59:56.320 that feeling or anytime i think about it because it is kind of nasty it tastes it's not a great taste

04:00:00.960 you got to make sure you do it before you eat best time in the morning with a little bit of lemon

04:00:05.520 um like uh lemon juice in the water you know squeeze a lemon in that thing and you'll find it it

04:00:11.440 also gives you a little bit of an energy boost because you're actually digesting the food properly

04:00:15.840 whereas you know without the stomach acid it's like slow and steady so yeah add cinnamon it really

04:00:23.440 helps some cinnamon and you can even add a little bit of honey but if you're doing no carbs maybe

04:00:29.760 don't do the honey but the cinnamon really helps too with the lemon and on that note drink it with

04:00:36.000 a straw don't let it hit your teeth a bunch because i actually was doing that and after about a month

04:00:42.640 holy fuck all of a sudden i had massive teeth like my teeth became very sensitive so just letting you guys 0.99

04:00:52.560 know don't let it splash your teeth a lot and when it comes to bread yeah don't eat that shit bread 0.99

04:00:59.360 like wonder bread i'm eating like good sourdough type of like bakery loaves etc and that's it 0.98

04:01:10.960 yeah good call um yeah i guess you know once in a while a little bit of bread i shouldn't hurt too

04:01:15.920 bad but yeah for me i i just cut it out entirely because i it i end up just putting everything on

04:01:21.200 bread and making sandwiches and stuff so yeah i just cut it out uh tungsten then i think it

04:01:28.480 shit i lost track i think it's tungsten okay we'll go we'll go nanya tungsten sammy thanks paul 0.70

04:01:37.680 yeah thank you for the mic i appreciate it if you hear uh hear my oven in the background because i'm 0.50

04:01:43.280 making some corned beef hash with a couple of eggs but um yeah the the food talk is great so i had a

04:01:50.720 question since uh you guys seem pretty intelligent right uh i have epi which is like endocrinetic

04:01:58.320 uh pancreatic insufficiency or whatever you know over the the past eight months it just hit me out of

04:02:04.560 nowhere and uh you know i was 165 pounds and a little bit of a little bit of a beer belly a little bit

04:02:11.200 but i'm down to 128 and i have to take this medication every time i eat called creon and

04:02:17.840 i'm supposed to eat uh small meals several times throughout the day but i can't seem to

04:02:24.240 gain any weight it doesn't matter what i eat you know i try to eat pretty healthy i mean this this

04:02:29.040 corned beef hash with the eggs isn't something i eat every single day but i eat lots of vegetables

04:02:36.320 try to eat lots of meat um but i can't i can't really gain any weight now i wondered if maybe if

04:02:43.200 any of you guys that are you know smart about this kind of stuff had any tips on how i could put a

04:02:49.920 little bit more weight on my slowly uh decreasing body here because it's kind of scary to be honest i mean

04:02:58.800 um there were there was four and a half months that i didn't know that i had this when it first

04:03:03.440 happened and i was literally shitting my life away for four months i went from 165 to 130 pounds 0.68

04:03:11.440 in that four months shitting like 10 times a day just liquid and before they finally figured out what 0.78

04:03:16.480 was wrong and put me on this medication but i haven't been able to put any weight on since then 0.77

04:03:21.440 no matter what i eat you know i do push-ups and sit-ups every day um i'm active as much as i can be

04:03:27.680 but i just can't gain any weight so i mean what do you guys think i could do to strengthen my pancreas

04:03:36.560 back up strengthen my body and you know what foods would you say that would help me do that and gain

04:03:43.440 a little bit more weight anybody um anybody know a little more of that well i would if i may i was up

04:03:54.080 next um i'll take this opportunity i'd say if you're not already eating yogurt because i think

04:04:00.320 you're probably my age you're probably in your 40s at least um you should probably start eating a

04:04:06.480 healthy amount of yogurt for the probiotics for starts um to that's also to combat the medications

04:04:15.040 it's pretty well established in europe like anytime we don't do this here in america because the

04:04:20.880 rockefellers really did a number on our allopathic medicine but anyway anytime in europe they are given

04:04:27.840 medications that is pharmaceuticals that you you're also prescribed probiotics and usually it's just in

04:04:34.240 the form of it can be yogurt um but the reason i'm saying yogurt if you can get a whole yogurt and

04:04:40.000 a raw yogurt that would be like doubly good so you want all the fat you can get

04:04:44.960 it provided that your your endocrine system can work with that and then the other thing i would say

04:04:50.880 and i'll just kind of bundle what was said earlier by some of the gentlemen um i would i would encourage

04:04:57.680 you to eat more fat to the degree that you can and one of the ways like was talked about you could

04:05:02.400 also eat your veggies with it like you could do collards with the apple cider vinegar and garlic and

04:05:08.640 either bacon or other pork products you could you could do all of that and kind of encapsulate some of

04:05:15.840 these notions that are highly nutrition and beneficial for your digestive system and if you do

04:05:23.120 that several obviously the yogurt you'll need to probably do to the degree you can several times a

04:05:27.600 week if not more but i would increase the fat and cholesterol level to the degree that you can

04:05:33.440 i'll get in on this uh an easy way to do that you know four slices of bacon three or four eggs what

04:05:46.960 you can handle and all that bacon grease scramble the eggs and and eat don't waste a single drop of

04:05:53.280 that bacon grease eat all of it and then uh you yeah the the dairy thing is good i was going to say

04:06:00.800 hey i know as much as we hate jim peterson his daughter does this thing called the lion diet she 1.00

04:06:08.080 kind of coined and she pretty much put the majority i mean all of her uh medical issues into remission

04:06:17.440 through this diet um you being at the weight that you're on you might not want to do it without medical

04:06:24.240 consultations and of course doctors they don't do it so you might want to find a doctor specifically

04:06:31.280 that knows about it and recommends it first not just one of these jewish doctors because they're

04:06:36.080 just going to tell you don't do it no matter what find a homeopath or somebody who knows about this

04:06:42.560 sort of thing and do it under their supervision if you're going to go that route because it might not

04:06:47.680 if if it's something that bad and your pancreas is failing and they're just trying to you know slow it

04:06:54.080 down unless you fix the problem you're just not going to gain any weight so i would i would look into

04:07:01.600 that first and try to just force correct on the diet with the lion diet completely put it into remission

04:07:07.920 and you can go back to focusing on gaining weight but if it's something that's not going to be

04:07:13.200 uh curable and you just got to live with it then yeah a lot of fat um i would stay away from the

04:07:22.640 carbs and stuff from bread sources because it's already going to do damage to your body

04:07:27.360 and you're you're not at the proper function to be able to fight that damage so you want to mitigate

04:07:34.640 it as much as possible whole raw dairy products a lot of animal fat pork's the best way to get it

04:07:41.440 and lamb as well lamb's extremely high in fat and then uh probably some sort of supplement like

04:07:49.760 like i was talking about a mass gainer that if you get a beef or a milk protein isolate you can stay

04:07:56.880 within a carnivore-esque diet but it's really without a supplement it's really hard to gain weight

04:08:02.480 at on a purely carnivore well i appreciate the uh the information gentlemen uh you know i try to keep

04:08:14.320 myself as healthy as i can and up until this uh this incident with my body i was always pretty healthy

04:08:21.040 generally speaking um but uh yeah this is really threw a wrench into my life um but you know again i try

04:08:30.160 to eat as healthy as i can i do i guess i maybe i do eat too many bread products i don't i don't really 0.78

04:08:37.200 snack on a lot of shit like i don't put a whole lot of bad stuff i've been trying to eat more dark 0.91

04:08:41.760 chocolate because i heard dark chocolate's really good for you too uh not overly but you know i eat eggs 0.99

04:08:48.960 that kind of thing so yeah i'll take that stuff to heart and uh look into some of that stuff and i

04:08:53.680 appreciate it hey nunya um what can you tell me a little bit first what are you supposed to possibly

04:09:03.280 be staying away from but i do have suggestions i know pancreatic stuff is rough and i know it's you

04:09:13.120 know it is a killer literally of people it's hard to beat certain things when it comes to the pancreas 0.79

04:09:20.480 but is there certain things you're supposed to stay away from first uh well um

04:09:28.080 i think one of the things that they said is uh really fatty or really greasy stuff

04:09:33.680 um certain oils um you know i have i have to eat i have to eat small meals throughout the day i'm not

04:09:40.880 supposed to sit down and just eat a big meal because it can overwhelm my pancreas that kind of stuff

04:09:45.200 so like are you allowed to have butter just a good butter and i only like the stuff i cook with is

04:09:52.080 only pretty much olive oil and butter and sometimes coconut oil um and that could you know that that's

04:10:00.560 always that's a good very healthy and i would think as far as oils if you're not like if you are

04:10:07.760 allowed that would probably be a good choices um you know if you're not supposed to be doing greases

04:10:15.040 and stuff then i would imagine bacon's probably rough on the pancreas if they're telling you to

04:10:20.720 do that so maybe like chicken thighs right like a dark meat chicken um maybe turkey different turkeys and

04:10:30.640 like uh and bone broth right like you actually like cooking the the chicken and creating a nice

04:10:40.960 bone broth with a with a stew and different things and beef and um with plenty of fiber right so you

04:10:49.280 want the fiber to go along with it and then doing like you said multiple small meals a day and um

04:10:57.600 um you know and and making sure you're taking in the calories at a healthy pace that your pancreas that 1.00

04:11:06.000 you've discussed with your doctor of what would kind of following that regimen and then that should

04:11:15.760 but at the same time like there are certain issues where it can be very hard to gain weight once certain

04:11:23.200 things are at certain spots within the body but right we're just this is maybe the best route to go

04:11:30.400 i'm thinking and so some of the beef cuts you're going to be looking at would be like a maybe a

04:11:36.880 slightly fattier beef cut not super lean but not crazy fatty um and for and then stewing it right with

04:11:44.880 the vegetables and everything so it has a nice dispersed uh intake as you intake it in like this

04:11:53.360 is some of my thinking maybe to because i you don't want to put your pancreas at too much stress so i'm

04:11:59.280 trying to think of ways to not do that yeah and i think that's that's you know all the stuff that you

04:12:07.760 said is good and i try to do a lot of that stuff uh i do like to get the beef stew and you know throw

04:12:14.640 the vegetables in there you know use a little bit of beef beef broth of beef stew anyway but uh yeah

04:12:20.480 it's just it's crazy for someone who never really had this kind of this kind of issue for it to just

04:12:26.320 hit you you know and do you drink coffee also i do drink coffee yeah okay make sure you're only doing

04:12:33.280 a dark roast okay i don't know if you you you need to make sure it's a dark roast though and uh taking

04:12:41.760 berries so all of these things are going to help improve your gut health along with the probiotics

04:12:48.000 from say yogurt and stuff which is very important having your gut health healthy is going to it really

04:12:55.920 is like almost it's like a second brain as far as functioning of the body having your gut health on

04:13:02.880 point yeah i agree and thank you everybody who decided to uh chime in there i really appreciate

04:13:13.280 it again this is just something i have to live with and like i said i'm just happy to be alive so

04:13:19.600 uh every day every day is a blessing i just try to you know the only the only bad thing that i have is

04:13:26.080 smoking on my pipe and uh i'll slowly whittle that away i don't drink alcohol or anything like that so

04:13:33.360 all that crap stopped so i'm just trying to be here for my kids pretty much

04:13:40.800 it's never too late brother we're proud of you and we're glad to have you brother 0.83

04:13:48.080 hell yeah hopefully hopefully you find something that works out uh i mean i'm not i'm not an expert on

04:13:53.280 pancreas uh anything to do with the pancreas but i think something like uh how's your salt in your diet

04:13:59.120 i would say salt's probably pretty good i mean i get my blood work done regularly um the only thing

04:14:07.200 that's ever low to be honest is vitamin d and i think that's just something that is that happens

04:14:12.880 with all of us so i take i take a multivitamin every day i make sure i eat eat my multivitamin

04:14:19.520 with a banana so all the different uh different stuff can actually be absorbed into my body so i

04:14:26.320 i mean i'm i'm doing what i can i don't overeat i don't overly salt or i don't eat a lot of uh sugar

04:14:34.240 i'm not really big on a lot of sugar the only sugar intake i pretty much have is a little bit

04:14:39.040 of creamer in my coffee and uh you know a dark chocolate bar here and there and just uh you

04:14:43.680 know get the benefits from that oh yeah also uh when it comes to vitamin d you said you're taking a

04:14:53.840 is it like a a pill like a vitamin multivitamin pill yeah it's a it's a one of the the centrum

04:15:01.280 man's multivitamins and the va sends me uh vitamin d pills but since i've got the multivitamin i just

04:15:09.280 use that gotcha um the the best way to get like okay so i've learned this about vitamin d when you're

04:15:16.640 when you have a deficiency you need to actually overdose on vitamin d so um they have these drops

04:15:22.400 you can get they're they're like vitamin d drops and they have you know like some of them have uh like

04:15:28.240 2500 uh whatever micrograms or whatever per drop uh i can't remember exactly the dosage but

04:15:35.440 basically you want to have like you want to get like uh i think around 10 000 to 20 000 daily

04:15:42.080 uh you gotta basically overdose on vitamin d uh to get to build up your your uh sufficiency again uh when

04:15:51.200 you're when you have a deficiency uh so it takes quite a while you just gotta supplement like a high

04:15:56.000 dose of vitamin d and i think they said that like the pills don't actually give you the proper

04:16:01.840 like um the proper dosage but also it doesn't get absorbed properly so they have these oils you can

04:16:08.400 get i would like not oil but it's like uh it's a liquid form vitamin d i would recommend maybe just

04:16:14.160 looking into that trying that out like uh maybe ask your doctor uh because yeah you gotta like overdose

04:16:19.680 basically uh on like fuck loads every day until you get that deficiency gone and then even then you can 0.67

04:16:25.600 lower that but yeah that's what i've that's what i've been careful wait be careful with all the 0.84

04:16:30.800 vitamin d stuff you know someone to look into honestly if you want to a lot of information look

04:16:37.680 into a guy on youtube dr berg yeah that's exactly what i've got that from yeah yeah so he actually has

04:16:46.720 put out recent videos warning about certain vitamin d's and different things and so watch some of his stuff

04:16:53.920 that's gonna be really knowledgeable and and actually he has a ton of stuff and there's another guy for

04:16:58.960 everyone on here he's got some interesting uh did the lower or something he's a fitness guy and he's got

04:17:06.720 a lot of diet stuff he talks about but yeah look into dr berg and uh yeah there's a lot of interesting

04:17:13.840 info there i second that i second that yeah you gotta also uh yeah make sure you i think you're not

04:17:20.560 supposed to take it with dairy or something like that so you gotta look into a little bit more but

04:17:25.200 yeah he basically uh he said that yeah if you're deficient then you need to overdose on that stuff

04:17:29.840 almost um but yeah definitely uh make sure it'll go with your diet with your you know check with your

04:17:35.600 yeah your doctor all that stuff but yeah uh i second that find dr eric berg on on youtube and uh yeah

04:17:44.080 he's got a lot of really helpful information out there especially heart health um there's a lot of

04:17:49.840 just different things that that guy covers and i highly recommend all right let's get to i appreciate 0.97

04:17:56.080 it thank you white power brother hopefully it helps um shit i think it was tungsten then ghost 0.93

04:18:04.080 yeah so with that vitamin d is also enhanced by getting proper amount of sunlight 0.98

04:18:09.680 um one of the things that we do often now is we wear sunglasses and that does impede

04:18:16.720 some of the absorption through our eyes so on that note uh i would encourage you to the degree

04:18:23.280 you can get ample amount of sunlight don't get sunburned but um keep that in the repertoire uh

04:18:29.840 back to i want to give a a nod to ghost he was talking about our origins and so he's right when

04:18:37.440 you look at most of us northern europeans our diets for the many millennia that we've existed

04:18:43.440 are far different than they have been in the last century um so when it comes to that we should we

04:18:51.840 should really keep that in mind about how we're going about it what's more is the way we can protect

04:18:56.400 and secure our food sources for example if you are in the proximity of a local farm

04:19:03.680 um both meat and dairy eggs etc can be quality controlled all the more um and this way you can

04:19:12.640 avoid getting toxins unnecessarily when you don't know where the food stuff's coming from

04:19:18.800 um and then final when you think about the the other types of things like what foods are in our

04:19:25.440 regions or what we should be eating the business of you know shipping stuff in

04:19:31.920 from afar is really not that beneficial for our health because it's foreign and it's not really 1.00

04:19:39.040 economically something that we want to encourage a lot of so keep that in mind as well you know the

04:19:44.640 berries you know the berries are grown here apples they're grown here but you know these exotic wonder

04:19:50.560 fruits i'm really kind of skeptical and i don't really endorse um for the diet so thanks ghost

04:20:01.120 hell yeah back to goals take it away and then rest yeah man you're worth no worries you're welcome

04:20:06.640 now i just want to say real quick since we were talking about the vitamins i take a multivitamin

04:20:10.400 every day but i think they say like for the most part your body doesn't absorb like the

04:20:17.040 majority of like the nutrients in the vitamin and you end up pissing it out and i believe the science

04:20:22.800 says that liquid vitamin is the most beneficial because your body is able to absorb it better so i'm just

04:20:28.640 throwing it out there for everybody i believe that's the truth

04:20:34.400 yeah i'm i'm not a big fan uh honestly on all of this vitamin and all of that crap and i have never 0.65

04:20:42.480 seen this massive difference when i have done it or anything i get most of my stuff through eating and

04:20:50.960 eating proper and eating real food and and between that and like some sunlight and different things

04:20:58.560 and being a normal human you get everything you need and this stuff about you know a lot of it like

04:21:04.720 you just said it doesn't absorb you literally piss it out and then there's the other factor of if your

04:21:12.640 calcium levels are too high or you're taking in too much calcium that bonds with all kinds of stuff

04:21:18.560 and negates it so you got to learn about some of this stuff and the the um there's literally

04:21:25.120 chemical bonds that happened with these things that that happened and and it bonds to things and

04:21:31.520 drags it out of you and doesn't make it accessible it locks it up in your body now i'm not saying to not

04:21:37.680 take in calcium i'm just saying that it's when certain levels are off and all of this other stuff 0.97

04:21:43.360 because you think you're going to take in this extra shit and you're not even doing it and you're 0.91

04:21:47.280 probably just putting harm on some of your organs because it's having to it's going through it but 0.98

04:21:52.400 then by the time it gets to your your uh gut it's not even absorbing it so you're putting stresses on

04:21:58.640 your liver and blah blah blah and you're not even absorbing it and i'm just letting you guys know you

04:22:04.160 know eat proper and i'm telling you when you eat right and you get in this all this stuff the right way

04:22:10.800 it you have a better effect and it absorbs better and everything just works better and uh that's all

04:22:18.480 you know yeah i second that rusty i'm i'm 41 years old i don't take any supplements i get plenty of

04:22:26.160 sunlight i eat bacon and eggs every morning and yeah i i totally agree with that i don't i'm not saying

04:22:32.800 don't take vitamins but i i don't ever get sick i never go to the doctor my kids are the same way so

04:22:38.800 i i totally agree with that absolutely yeah only if uh if you uh have a deficiency or something even

04:22:47.680 then uh yeah liquid form is the best um in most cases uh and then in other than that uh it's just

04:22:55.760 getting it in the in your diet uh you know getting to make sure you have the balanced diet that supports

04:23:00.960 the uh you know helps you with the deficiency so definitely second third that uh honky and then ghost again

04:23:09.200 hey what's going on guys uh i was at work kind of doing this for a living and i was overhearing this uh

04:23:15.920 discussion about the um the supplements and multivitamins and uh you know as far as like

04:23:22.080 you know pharmacokinetics of of uh of absorption everything else i mean they did a study it was

04:23:29.680 probably well now it's probably been about 12 13 years ago if you get any one a day like centrum or

04:23:36.960 whatever those tablet forms of multivitamins i mean they're all garbage they're not absorbed you're 0.99

04:23:42.720 just enriching your shit and your piss essentially so um you know there's a brand that that that we 0.99

04:23:50.480 that a lot of the people in my area prefer and all that and i carry um but look into uh there's a 0.99

04:23:56.800 company called pure encapsulations everything is a capsule form it's uh pretty much like you know

04:24:02.240 like i take the just one it's called one multivitamin it doesn't have like calcium in it

04:24:06.560 and all this other lycopene bullshit and everything else that they say that you need um you know it's 0.70

04:24:13.040 just got like the essential stuff no bullshit capsule form easily absorbed and um they have a whole line 0.61

04:24:20.320 of stuff but that's the thing i mean you you get these like you think it's like a a one and done 0.98

04:24:25.520 tablet and it's pretty much they're just training you to take this this hunk of compressed bullshit 0.53

04:24:31.280 every day and you don't your body doesn't get anything out of it but my two cents 0.87

04:24:41.360 no absolutely right take it away go send rusty thanks guys uh i don't mean to be chatty kathy here

04:24:47.040 but uh i'll be captain obvious too go to your doctors and you know get your blood work done you

04:24:52.480 know get your full blood panel uh your metabolic panel i mean hopefully everyone has like somewhat

04:24:57.680 decent insurance but uh get your physical man make sure just you know all the blood work and

04:25:02.080 everything's like you know in the right uh range and the proper parameters and if not like my like b12

04:25:08.320 was like low so the doctor was like supplement it you know just like sometimes it's like we just need

04:25:12.720 a fine tweak so obviously like you know we got to have the information to to know if we have to like

04:25:18.320 make an adjustment so uh uh guys and then get your prostate checked too

04:25:25.120 yeah good good call there good that was a little bit of a joke that was a little tongue-in-cheek thank

04:25:29.840 you good call there uh yeah i guess after a certain days uh that that becomes regular i've been avoiding

04:25:36.960 that myself personally uh yeah me too me too putting that one off for unless necessary guilty yeah

04:25:49.680 all right yeah thanks rusty take it away yeah i i want to say um i never let anyone i've taken

04:25:58.320 pharmacokinetics and pharmacology and i aced it and i did that and so i'm just letting you all know that

04:26:04.640 also i've taken multiple courses on working out and all all types of stuff in college and um many

04:26:13.280 years ago so i'm just letting you all know that also

04:26:22.240 absolutely yeah it's uh something that you guys gotta make sure you follow up with a doctor the blood

04:26:27.760 work uh get you know getting the blood work done all that stuff because yeah it's uh it's not always a

04:26:33.040 one-size-fits-all um and like uh don't take any of this as medical advice this is just a little bit

04:26:39.840 of banter but also you know if you do find something that help that that helps you like

04:26:44.560 find a way to something that'll help you it's always good to yeah double check with your doctor

04:26:48.800 your blood work and alice uh i don't the guys that analyze the blood work i don't know if they have

04:26:53.760 a name um you know make sure that you guys are uh not going to be like on some medication that's

04:27:00.240 going to you know counteract with uh certain things so yeah it's always something you got

04:27:04.480 to make sure of uh when uh taking medical advice of any kind um but as i said yeah this is not medical

04:27:11.680 advice please uh everybody uh you know take it with a grain of salt and if you are thinking about

04:27:16.800 trying these things make sure you consult with your doctor definitely first uh appreciate the yeah

04:27:22.080 yeah appreciate all this conversation uh of course um it's good to you know keep our health on on top 0.93

04:27:28.800 of things so shit i i missed the hands coming up who was first none yeah all right thanks rusty go to 0.86

04:27:36.160 none yeah then rusty yeah i was just gonna say i'm you know i know you're avoiding it but um look for a uh 0.97

04:27:44.400 asian doctor with really small hands that'll help it'll it'll ease your pain

04:27:48.160 they go they yeah i don't know i'm hoping they'll have like an ai uh or not ai but you know like a

04:27:58.640 robot specialist soon uh you know what's crazy is it's 2025 and they still have to do that you know

04:28:06.720 i'm avoiding it too absolutely i think if you know you get i think they say a good thing for that is uh

04:28:16.320 you know have some nuts in your diet have some almonds uh walnuts uh you know have have a a little

04:28:22.320 bit of a variety of nuts in your in your diet because that's gonna help with that um but yeah

04:28:28.000 i mean uh there's a there's a bunch of other things you just gotta make sure you have a good diet in a

04:28:32.080 whole uh and yeah rusty i don't know how i'm supposed to take all of that that sounded like a lot of

04:28:40.800 innuendos but um the uh which is why before you know with the whole checking with your doctor and

04:28:48.960 all of this is why i said you know i have no problem recommending getting this stuff through food

04:28:56.400 and through all of that stuff so i don't think it's um you know i i actually stated i don't believe it

04:29:03.040 now some supplements that can be very effective when added which is definitely needed if you need it and

04:29:10.480 need to be checked with which your doctor would be like iron right don't be taking in too much iron

04:29:16.960 especially if you don't need it um that'll that can throw things off and can cause toxicity etc so

04:29:23.600 there is definite things within this stuff you got to be careful about which is why like if you don't

04:29:30.000 need it get your blood work done and if you don't need it don't be doing this shit and even b12 there are 0.95

04:29:36.560 natural sources of b12 which you can get this stuff from and be in taking and getting b12 from so all of 0.94

04:29:44.800 this stuff can be had if you're if you're being conscious through your diet and um through food and

04:29:52.480 that's you know that's all

04:29:58.320 100

04:30:03.440 so

04:30:03.680 sorry did i cut somebody off i uh

04:30:07.600 no we had we had some people drop i think we had a glitch or something i think ghost had his hand up

04:30:14.400 ghost take it away if you got your hand up yeah no i don't have my hand up right now i don't have

04:30:18.720 anything like intelligent to add but you know all good stuff i appreciate the conversation i'll hang

04:30:22.880 out for a little while longer

04:30:26.720 hell yeah uh we have about 20 minutes here until we switch over to the white power lunch hour so

04:30:32.080 five minutes until we're closing the the microphone request so if you got something to say come on up

04:30:38.880 here uh feel free to change the subject uh and uh yeah you got five minutes to grab a microphone

04:30:45.760 otherwise we're going to be cutting off the speaker requests and getting ready to switch over the white

04:30:50.880 power lunch hour uh the reason why we do that is because uh for some some reason a lot of people

04:30:56.480 like to come up at the last minute and uh and uh yeah we we don't want to go over time so that is why we

04:31:03.120 lock the speakers uh requests after 15 minutes ahead of time so if you do want to come up now is your

04:31:10.000 chance you got about a couple minutes here we'll allow you to jump up and grab a mic other than that

04:31:15.760 uh hope you guys have been getting a lot out of the conversation um you know we've uh gone over a

04:31:21.120 lot of things uh to do with health and hopefully everybody's keeping healthy eating the eating the

04:31:26.640 good nutritious food organic when possible um i i haven't gone on the whole milk thing yet but

04:31:32.880 apparently that's a lot pretty good for everybody uh making everybody feel good um and i really appreciate

04:31:38.640 the 43 out of uh 119 of you who have reposted the space if you haven't reposted the space here's your

04:31:46.160 reminder uh so we can get those numbers up a little bit higher for the white power lunch hour which come

04:31:50.880 oh sorry actually it's a broadcast today not the white power lunch hour it's friday uh so we are going

04:31:55.840 to be having the broadcast uh live here after um my bad uh i keep forgetting it's friday because this

04:32:03.280 week went by so damn fast uh i still feel like it's wednesday so my bad there we got the broadcast

04:32:10.080 coming up next uh on the on the uh white excellence radio so yeah we want to get those numbers up so we

04:32:16.640 have a nice uh nice group of listeners ready to go because the broadcast is uh focused on uh the genocide

04:32:23.120 that's going on in south africa a lot of the politics in south africa so it's a great uh listen

04:32:29.200 um we got johannes hockenbach i think i'm saying that right i hope i'm not butchering his name uh but

04:32:34.800 he's going to come up here he's a prominent speaker and activist in the space um very knowledgeable fellow

04:32:41.920 and uh usually join with base maiden and posty so um i'm not entirely sure who's co-hosting with him

04:32:48.720 today but he also brings a lot of uh a lot of other uh great speakers from from south africa so

04:32:54.400 if you're into that thing um you know even if you're not you should you should check it out because

04:32:58.320 it's a good good listen so yeah thanks for everyone for being here and uh yeah if you if you're new here

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04:33:26.080 sometimes uh which we did last night uh had some special guest speakers from time to time which we

04:33:32.960 had also last night so yeah um you don't want to miss a lot of these shows uh so thank you all for

04:33:38.880 being here again uh a couple minutes until we close the microphone so yeah jump up here if you want to

04:33:44.240 if you want to grab a mic last chance and like he said repost the space it's white power if you do it 0.83

04:33:56.240 absolutely whenever i do that bell one i feel like uh i feel like that guy from breaking bad you

04:34:01.200 know he's got the bell on his wheelchair ding ding ding ding i don't know why but

04:34:14.240 um i hear you but i think your bluetooth may have activated again ghost

04:34:20.480 oh no i was gonna say uh that actor he just referred to was it was it hector in the wheelchair

04:34:25.760 that was the same actor from scarface that tony was supposed to uh bring to he was the bomb guy

04:34:31.840 uh at the u.n trying to kill that ambassador so i didn't he looks like way younger and also he's the

04:34:38.080 landlord from ace ventura if you guys remember that i spent i gotta check that one okay yeah bro

04:34:46.800 yeah i read too much wikipedia when my insomnia hits i have all this useless for no good reason

04:34:56.480 no that's definitely one good good thing about uh insomnia you end up staying up learning all these

04:35:04.080 things so yeah i used to i used to have that myself but now as soon as i hit the pillow as soon as i put

04:35:09.760 my head on the pillow i'm pretty much out i'm out for the count so i don't know something changed in

04:35:14.800 me and now yeah i i as soon as i lay back even on a pillow i'm just sawing logs

04:35:20.560 when's cookie's eye surgery scheduled for uh you know it's good we're in canada so it'll

04:35:37.600 probably be around 20 29 uh that he's gonna be having his eye surgery uh taking care of poor poor

04:35:43.680 cookie uh with his lazy eye is that is definitely hilarious because when it falls all the way down

04:35:51.520 i swear it's like you're looking around a corner for danger

04:35:57.440 i don't know why it does that it's just like gets stuck there from time to time i think it's like

04:36:01.920 not even uh i think it's like a plastic thing you know like uh static electricity just holding

04:36:06.960 it in there so yeah so from time to time i can't even fix his eyes

04:36:13.680 but yeah what are you doing sammy yeah what's up sammy

04:36:27.840 i'm on lunch leave me alone

04:36:31.920 all right

04:36:34.560 what are you eating

04:36:40.320 yeah what are you eating

04:36:43.680 i'm gonna make a bratwurst and probably some eggs and stuff i gotta wash some dishes first

04:36:56.720 i knew we could bait you

04:36:57.920 sounds good sounds good yeah yeah i gotta get some breakfast here pretty soon i've only had i

04:37:13.840 only have like a banana in the morning and then i wait until we're over here and then i cook something

04:37:18.400 up but yeah i love the bacon i love having some bacon in the morning you know i get get some bacon

04:37:24.720 sizzling sizzling in the pan fry up some eggs uh you know um cut up some vegetables some tomatoes

04:37:32.560 some cucumbers uh throw it on a corn cake which is like a really thin corn cake i i know corn is not

04:37:40.320 really good for you but it's something that it's low calorie and it's uh you know uh

04:37:46.560 it feels like bread it's kind of like bread but not as hot not as bad for you so i'll throw it on there

04:37:53.920 a little bit of homemade mayonnaise if you guys haven't started with the homemade mayonnaise i'm big

04:37:57.760 i'm a mayonnaise homemade mayonnaise advocate okay you guys i uh i preach by the homemade mayonnaise you

04:38:04.400 can put garlic in there you can put uh banana peppers in there kick it up a notch you know um

04:38:10.240 it's uh way better than the store-bought because you just uh you know especially if you're using

04:38:16.160 avocado oil um i recommend avocado oil and i even throw some bacon grease in there you know what i

04:38:22.960 mean some collected bacon grease i want it to be real thick um i load it with mustard so it's low low uh

04:38:30.960 low calorie right so you know i just throw that wherever the hell and it's not like uh if you look

04:38:36.160 at this uh the packaging on the mayonnaise from the store it's all seed oil you're eating basically

04:38:41.520 almost pure seed oil with a little bit of eggs probably not even like whole eggs it's probably

04:38:46.160 just like egg yolk uh alternative you know uh what do they call that um uh fortified egg yolks or 0.82

04:38:55.360 something where they basically like take all the good shit out of it and put it back together 0.98

04:38:59.280 and throw it in there so yeah it's probably just all garbage hey one tribe what's going on 0.99

04:39:04.000 hey brother i've been listening for a while like i went on a run and it's working out and uh great 0.99

04:39:10.560 show and then i hear homemade uh mayonnaise and i'm like oh shit i need to i need to know more so um

04:39:16.880 this is awesome uh because it's something that i've been really um interested in i i absolutely love

04:39:24.000 mayo i have been getting the uh store-bought um like mayo with avocado oil but um if you've got a

04:39:30.080 like a recipe or like something like how much oil i should use per egg and and that kind of thing

04:39:36.560 maybe you can throw in the or hit my dms or something i don't know i need the recipe that's

04:39:41.760 all that's what i'm saying i gotcha i gotcha to to be succinct um so that and then um you know one of

04:39:50.560 the other things on on diet and you know i heard you guys talking about earlier um if i could take it

04:39:55.680 back a few minutes if you don't mind um you know and sugar um sugar is cancer's favorite food it just

04:40:02.000 fucking loves it it gobbles it up it helps it grow um so again you know you know to the extent though

04:40:09.040 we can get sugar out of our diet um that that's huge and then fasting it's another thing i do 0.98

04:40:14.880 um i haven't done like a multi-day fast i do intermittent fasting intermittent fasting right now where

04:40:21.120 i you know basically one meal a day around somewhere in the um you know three to four p.m but sometimes

04:40:28.800 when i you know when i work out i i'm especially when i lift my i get i get hangry so i'll maybe have

04:40:35.120 some some kind of snack around 1 30 or 2 and then maybe a meal around 4 or something like keep it in

04:40:40.960 that really narrow window um but for for people who fast for like a day or two or three

04:40:51.120 your body goes um into a process called autophagy you can google that a-u-t-o-e-h-a-g-y

04:41:00.080 and it's basically where your old cells just kind of get shed and and and just recycled out of your

04:41:06.160 body and um and it you know it's it's super helpful again from preventing um you know just another

04:41:14.240 natural mechanism for preventing cancer and um you know our our bodies our dna has not changed

04:41:23.200 you know two million years of evolution or or two million years of our dna structure has not changed

04:41:29.600 in the last hundred years so you know if you go back or even last five thousand years you know you

04:41:33.840 go back five thousand you know go back a thousand years we weren't eating three squares a day our bodies

04:41:38.720 we're used to if we're lucky eating eating one meal a day you know maybe a meal every other day

04:41:46.000 depending on you know your hunt and the food supply and things like that so um so if you know thinking

04:41:53.920 about it in those terms to align our um our dietary habits with our natural genetic makeup um fasting to

04:42:05.200 me makes sense so just thought i'd throw that in there for the conversation and um and uh yeah

04:42:11.840 if you can uh bless me with your homemade mayonnaise recipe i would be eternally grateful thank you

04:42:21.680 absolutely it's actually really simple so uh i have uh i'm using an old um uh french press like

04:42:28.960 the glass french presses uh you know it's got like a little beaker uh you can take it out of the metal

04:42:34.240 holster and i basically use that as my uh storage container for it i'll throw like i'll throw like

04:42:41.120 six or seven eggs in there i'll put a fuck load of mustard um you know uh you kind of learn uh the 0.51

04:42:48.240 like i don't actually measure anything out i just kind of do it um but i would say probably

04:42:53.680 uh you know one one third of of the thing will be uh avocado oil um so yeah about seven eggs um

04:43:08.240 and then a fuck load of mustard i uh put a lot of salt in there a lot of garlic in there uh sometimes 0.75

04:43:13.760 i'll do banana peppers and then i'll even use a little bit of bacon grease sometimes i just kind of uh

04:43:19.280 mixes in there gives a nice little like a different uh texture um and then get one of those stick

04:43:25.760 blenders and you just want to make sure basically you leave enough room for the stick blender if it's

04:43:30.400 too liquidy then you're gonna want to add more olive oil or avocado oil um and if it's too thick then uh

04:43:38.160 you can add another egg and uh yeah just blend it all up together and it'll basically it'll thicken

04:43:44.960 up more when you put it in the fridge of course but um yeah i highly recommend it it's uh it's way

04:43:51.600 better than anything store-bought anyways and sometimes it'll just stay a little bit liquidy

04:43:56.720 um but yeah just it doesn't really cause me any problems for what i do with it so there's that um

04:44:03.280 but i will uh yeah is that yeah much appreciated bro and i that's the way i cook i just eyeball it

04:44:10.080 it and um and you just um you know planted a seed in my mind of bacon flavored mayonnaise which i think

04:44:16.720 is the absolute killer app so that's that's going to be my my next culinary project many thanks brother

04:44:25.040 absolutely i hope it goes well let me know how it goes absolutely

04:44:30.640 i'm the i'm the homemade mayonnaise supremacist all right paladin i went to business school and my

04:44:36.880 mom was in marketing so we just came up with the idea your your mayonnaise brother you already got

04:44:42.960 one customer all i ask is for a little royalty and i'll help you brother let's let's hit it about

04:44:49.360 how about some sales commissions uh we can structure this i'll put a uh kind of an operating agreement

04:44:54.720 together and um you know sign equity and uh and sales commissions and things like that let's 0.99

04:45:01.120 fucking go white power mayo white power mayonnaise you took the word out of my mouth there you go 1.00

04:45:06.560 white power mayonnaise 1.00

04:45:13.280 fuck yeah i wish uh that'd be that'd be awesome i don't know how well uh i mean the stores in my 0.95

04:45:19.760 fridge for like a week or plus so yeah it just throw it in the fridge with some some tin foil over the 0.97

04:45:25.520 damn thing and yeah use it as i need it stays pretty good um but i hope that goes well and uh

04:45:32.800 we got just a few minutes left here so we'll finish up with ghost and then we'll do our sign off to the 0.97

04:45:37.840 broadcast yeah thanks dude yeah nothing too significant i just wanted to throw it out there since you guys

04:45:43.120 were talking about mayo and avoiding like this uh this was it the soybean oil yeah but all those seed

04:45:48.720 oils are obviously terrible for our health so avoid those as much as possible like when i was younger you

04:45:54.960 know i didn't i didn't know better you know when especially when i was a kid you know canola oil and

04:45:58.880 all that stuff like our parents used to fry shit up in they really pushed that in like the 80s and 0.99

04:46:03.600 into the 90s as being like a better alternative than like butter don't fuck don't fuck with all these 0.99

04:46:09.200 seed oils bro i think uh whl you were saying earlier if you fry anything up it's like extra virgin 0.95

04:46:15.520 olive oil and butter uh i do that too and sometimes i do uh avocado oil so i kind of like that and then

04:46:22.000 then i'll be real quick my second point what one tribe just said previously was like so spot on uh

04:46:28.320 what he said was 100 true so i mean i don't need to reiterate all his points but i really appreciate

04:46:33.760 uh what he said and uh obviously i agree with him completely like if you think about it you know

04:46:38.960 like he said we evolved for millions of years primitive man was like kind of nomadic we like

04:46:44.000 he said we didn't eat three square meals a day like you know we weren't domesticated yet we were

04:46:49.360 hunters and gatherers and there was times we would go maybe a day or two or maybe even three

04:46:54.000 without eating so yeah bro i do intermittent intermittent fasting too i've been trying to

04:46:58.560 lose some weight and get more athletic and i i do like a keto carnivore diet but uh when you fast

04:47:05.520 like you mentioned if you could get up to like 72 hours which is kind of difficult i've done it a

04:47:10.080 couple times recently i'm normally between like a day or two and then i'll then i eat again but uh

04:47:15.120 uh like you said like this uh the benefits that you get from fasting it's almost like

04:47:20.480 superhuman like you know i feel better mentally it uh it like your body basically undergoes cellular

04:47:27.120 like maintenance like as you mentioned um you know it like it destroys and it eats up like the damaged

04:47:34.280 cells uh you know anything like pre-cancerous your body just destroys it like remember back in the day

04:47:40.020 like we had like windows washer or like you would defragment like your hard drive

04:47:43.760 like i don't want to be too simplistic but it's basically like the same thing bro so what i just

04:47:49.260 want everyone to say what one tribe said was like really truthful and it could be a lot of beneficial

04:47:54.340 again i don't mean to preach but if you guys want to look this up like i may have some links if anyone

04:47:58.920 wants to dm me but autophagy and fasting is like one of the best things you can do like do for your

04:48:05.340 body so uh be healthy everybody thank you for the microphone absolutely great point uh marco did you

04:48:12.680 want to get a quick 30 second take in there before we switch over yeah i'm sorry i i was trying to

04:48:17.880 get i wanted to say it yesterday but we had a really good hot topic and so whtl has the perfect 0.87

04:48:23.140 fucking voice for you know the other day we did the uh the price is white so we have so many good 0.88

04:48:29.740 business ideas coming in i was thinking of another game maybe we could do like the great white shark 1.00

04:48:35.540 tank you know what i'm saying so it was just an idea i had because whl has the perfect fucking voice 0.95

04:48:41.100 for like the bob barker shit you know so got a lot of good ideas coming in chief it might be pretty 0.89

04:48:46.360 good so thanks for letting me share i appreciate that i will definitely run it by the uh run it by

04:48:52.300 the uh the stat you know the crew here so guys um it's been a fun it's been a fun space today it's

04:48:59.600 been a good conversation about a lot about health and a little bit of conspiracy talk at the beginning but

04:49:05.420 it is now time for the broadcast with johannes and i think posty is co-hosting with johannes

04:49:11.540 so guys enjoy that and uh make sure you're sharing the space so we can get those out get the space out

04:49:16.780 there to the broader audience and uh yeah enjoy the rest of your day everybody and we will see you 0.94

04:49:22.400 bright and early monday morning after the oven side chats with carl rattle so white fucking power 0.95

04:49:27.780 everybody yeah and uh of course unite the clans we'll see you monday why power

04:49:33.620 good evening everybody thank you guys uh for the introduction it's yet again an honor to be joined

04:49:44.580 with you for another episode of the broadcast on white excellence radio this week i'll be joined by

04:49:52.360 the esteemed guest dr mike tohi and we will be discussing a bit of south african history in

04:49:59.640 particular we will be discussing um a leadership or a leader's figure in south africa uh dr jb m arzov which

04:50:11.640 uh for a long time fought the nationalist struggle by himself in south africa um the

04:50:22.280 reason why i think that it's a relevant topic for us and an important thing to discuss

04:50:28.740 is because in many many white countries we find ourselves um in a position where we are leaderless

04:50:38.200 now there are many grassroots movements and there are many up and coming you know leaders that will

04:50:45.540 no doubt one day be great men but history if looked upon i believe can inspire you know the youth and the

04:50:59.540 next generation to pursue um you know greatness as our forefathers once did now with that in mind

04:51:07.220 i would like to invite dr mike to up so if you guys could post if you could just give him an invite

04:51:14.420 for mike if you can take the of mike as you can take but i don't know that's like a five idea

04:51:22.100 i think i might have sent him one but i'm going to try it again just watch for it dr mike in case it pops up and you miss it

04:51:27.940 absolutely yeah absolutely i was just thinking all throughout this week you know in our movement and

04:51:38.660 and so on in in south africa particularly the topic of leadership is very often discussed and uh one

04:51:47.860 common theme that i hear uh amongst boors is there's this idea um that every boor is his own general

04:51:58.100 and that we must take leadership in our own capacity and everybody should be a leader but i think that

04:52:05.380 as understanding as that is that or or i understand the sentiment where people come from you know um and

04:52:13.460 that i believe that sentiment is an expression of leaderlessness and ultimately i believe that a

04:52:21.540 people is only as strong as their leaders and ultimately movements nationalist type uprisings

04:52:33.060 will culminate around personalities and it is only after significant struggle and investment has been put in

04:52:44.180 that a moment that a momentum can be had to follow up in the you know footsteps of great leaders but i do not

04:52:51.620 think that we will sit with the situation where the people will realize their responsibility towards

04:52:59.620 their national interests and national identity but rather it will be at the you know it will be at the head of

04:53:08.260 great men um and and and if efforts of individuals ultimately which uh which is an important thing i i think

04:53:18.020 to understand because it gives us a perspective a lot of a lot of us may have the idea that you know we

04:53:25.700 are powerless to enact any actual change because we are a very small group of people that have the

04:53:34.260 ideas albeit the fact that we are growing i understand that but we are still relatively small

04:53:41.220 um but when we look at the lives of men like general atso it

04:53:47.860 it can inspire us and give us the perspective that we need to understand that big strides massive strides

04:53:58.260 can be made on the backs of individuals and their further for the national courts so with that i'd like

04:54:05.620 to introduce dr mike he is an author um he is an ex-political prisoner and he is also a doc he also has his

04:54:15.380 doctorate and uh i forget now exactly what but dr mike introduce yourself please

04:54:27.060 thank you johannes my name is mike the toy i was a teacher and thereafter a university lecturer at two

04:54:37.540 universities in history and archaeology i have a master's degree in the philosophy of science

04:54:47.460 my doctorate is on a new political economy which is corporatism and i have five degrees and i've written

04:55:01.540 five books uh one of them being on the south african history from 1902 up till 1994 another book i've written

04:55:15.620 on a new political economy and the new political system in a future afrikaner state

04:55:24.980 and another book is on our european prehistory mainly our indo-european ancestors and our germanic ancestors

04:55:39.860 and as you as you have mentioned in 2002 i was arrested on charges of terrorism

04:55:48.180 it was eventually changed to high treason i was found guilty and i was sentenced all and all and all i was 18 years

04:56:00.660 three months in prison so that's in short my uh story thank you

04:56:07.780 awesome so with that being said um would you care to give the audience

04:56:21.300 an introduction into the life of um who was he where did he come from and how did he get involved in politics

04:56:30.980 johannes uh first of all i should point out that he was not a uh he didn't had a doctorate degree he

04:56:46.020 he did had a doctorate degree but the title was not doctor but general jbm herzog james barry munich

04:56:55.140 gertzog he was born in 1866 in wellington in the cape uh in his early days he stayed in kimberley

04:57:06.740 eventually attended high school and university at the universe at stellenbosch and eventually got his

04:57:14.900 doctorate degree in law in at the university of amsterdam in the netherlands

04:57:21.780 uh in 1899 he became a judge in bloomfontein and when the anglo-boer war broke out in 1899 to 1902

04:57:35.300 he became a general in the free state army now there's something very interesting i should point out

04:57:43.300 you know after the british took over pretoria and uh uh bloomfontein the boers started gorilla warfare

04:57:56.180 against the british now the person who who actually came to this idea was jbm herzog he wrote uh he he he read

04:58:11.060 the book by clausovic on war and also some other books and that's where he got the idea of gorilla

04:58:18.820 warfare from in which the boers eventually excelled to the extent that they could continue the war 0.99

04:58:28.820 another two years against the british dr mike if i could interject here i was always under the impression

04:58:36.100 that uh the gorilla that tactics were um at the beach uh fought or implemented at the beach of men like

04:58:44.820 the vet and uh telerei um so if i understand you correctly it was actually um dr general herzog that

04:58:55.140 implemented implemented this strategy

04:59:01.940 johannes yes uh general christian the vet and koos tellerei they fought the wars they implemented

04:59:11.860 gorilla warfare but a guy who who actually uh visualized it and explained it to everybody else was jbm herzog

04:59:26.020 that is very that is very very very interesting because i oftentimes is there's there's this

04:59:31.700 sentiment in our among our people that that they downplay thinkers and they they elevate the doers

04:59:39.220 right but it just goes to show you you know um a man like i'm learning this uh for the first time

04:59:46.420 tonight so it just goes to show you the importance of thinkers and uh that that thinkers and and talkers

04:59:53.940 ultimately become the movers of society

04:59:57.460 you know johannes in our uh ancient history the indo-european peoples especially the germanic

05:00:10.100 people their societies were constructed in a certain way right at the top was the aristocracy

05:00:18.900 they were the thinkers and underneath them was the warriors they were the fighters and then the third

05:00:28.100 group within society were the farmers and the other people so right throughout history

05:00:36.340 if you're going to have a look at societies that were uh uh that were uh functioning effectively

05:00:48.420 the thinking element was always at the top of the structure and the doing element were always

05:00:58.020 following the instructions of the thinking element

05:01:01.060 now if you're going to have a look for instance uh let's take uh koos delari for instance koos delari was a

05:01:12.340 was a very good soldier but now let me shock you a little bit after 1902 he became a great political

05:01:22.660 supporter of janney smith and louie botta and uh so it shows you that uh even though he was a great general

05:01:34.420 and a great fighter he had no political insight now to some extent the same with uh general uh christian

05:01:44.820 he was a great general he was a great general that ever uh came to the fore amongst the poor people

05:01:56.660 but after the war he could he was he became to some extent a non-individual a non-person he couldn't

05:02:07.540 uh manage to understand politics and uh what should be done to uh maintain our people's survival

05:02:23.140 that is extraordinarily uh in or that is a very interesting extremely interesting i need to get my

05:02:30.340 english tuned in or dialed in a little better but that's very interesting yeah um i think that our

05:02:36.420 people hold in reverence the warrior class and they try to elevate the warrior class above you know

05:02:44.340 the aristocracy and um for me politics is the most important thing that there is within a society and

05:02:52.420 once you lose your political leaders then your people become ultimately directionless which is why

05:02:59.380 today our best fighters are fighting for the causes of the alien and we are fighting for everything but our own

05:03:08.660 interest which is why i believe that now more than anything we need leaders but within the aristocratic sense

05:03:18.980 we need the thinkers and and the talkers because we we have no shortage of men

05:03:29.140 that are willing to fight you know i think everybody yearns for the opportunity to to to to do that

05:03:37.700 and it it so often you know comes to the forefront in any conversation that you'd have in south africa

05:03:46.740 but we have to work on a culture that values um you know people like dr jb mrs so so

05:03:55.780 yeah if we can just i i interrupted you there but i do think that was an important tangent

05:04:01.460 so if we can go um you know go back to where we were where we left off or where i

05:04:06.260 diverted the conversation so um you were saying implemented implemented the guerrilla warfare tactics

05:04:17.140 and um would you care to elaborate on the the thoughts you were gonna um say

05:04:25.780 you know johannes there is a french philosopher with the name of elaine de benoit who propagates

05:04:37.140 the idea of meta politics uh now he got that idea from antonio gramsci gramsci was a communist in italy

05:04:50.020 and mussolini caught him and thrown into prison and while in prison gramsci fought what did the communists

05:04:59.380 that wrong to not be able to take power in italy

05:05:03.300 and he came to the conclusion that your political superstructure is not the result of the materialistic

05:05:17.700 base like karl marx said but that your political superstructure is actually the result of the ideas

05:05:28.660 the emotions the emotions the the traditions the ideological uh thoughts of the people

05:05:37.460 and that if you don't win that war you will never be able to gain political power now after the anglo-boer war

05:05:48.500 our people were in a very very bad state of uh in in in all aspects that you can think of let me just give you an example

05:06:02.020 before the war there were slightly more than 200 000

05:06:06.100 wars in the old zir and orange free state republic during the war more than 40 000 of them died which

05:06:16.980 meant that the british killed more than 20 percent of our people

05:06:21.140 30 000 farmhouses were destroyed all cattle nearly all cattle in the old transvaal and the free state were killed

05:06:32.420 now against that background our people had lost their uh their vision of life their moral high ground

05:06:42.420 they were down in the dumps and here comes uh general jbm herzog and he started this uh

05:06:55.620 metapolitical struggle and he build it around the afrikaans language now each and every time

05:07:05.460 the british wanted to destroy our people they started off by trying to destroy our language

05:07:14.420 and what herzog did is he fought that and he started promoting afrikaans as language

05:07:24.420 for instance in 1908 uh he placed afrikaans and english on the equal footing

05:07:33.860 in the free state in the free state in the free state educational system in 1909 just before south africa

05:07:40.900 became the union of south africa when the south the south africa law were passed he again placed afrikaans and

05:07:52.180 english on a equal footing and with that as his point of departure he came to formulate two further

05:08:03.700 ideological ideological viewpoints the first being that there are two white cultural groups in south africa

05:08:12.660 that is the indish and afrikaners and they must exist next to each other one must not dominate the other

05:08:21.860 and the second uh idea that he formulated is he said that uh the relationship between south africa and

05:08:35.140 britain should be as follow and that is south africa first south africa should have the right to stay neutral 0.97

05:08:44.660 in times of war in times of war and they must have the right to succeed from the british empire if necessary

05:08:53.300 and that brought him in in great conflict with bota and smuts to the extent that he was

05:09:00.660 eventually left out of the cabinet and so he formed a new political party called the national party in 1914

05:09:13.300 now i think i should first uh give back to you and then i will carry on

05:09:23.460 okay yes that's that's very interesting yeah i would like to speak about the formation of the national

05:09:29.460 party so he was the direct opposition to smuts and and bota which is very interesting because um men like 0.99

05:09:38.820 like you just mentioned delaray which is something that i also learned recently that he was a supporter

05:09:44.420 of smuts um but it didn't come as too much of a shock because i i think the most shocking thing that i

05:09:51.220 ever heard was the fact that you were before he was a a big supporter of young smuts um but he said

05:09:59.060 that the only reason he did that was because he thought that young smuts infiltrated the english and

05:10:08.580 he was so disappointed that bota was the one to execute him if i remember correctly from his letters now

05:10:16.740 which is also a very interesting thing to me our people have got this idea they've got this mindset

05:10:24.260 of reformation we need to send people to infiltrate power structures and then be an uh to enact to enact or

05:10:36.580 effect change within an organization for instance you must join the trump cabinet to

05:10:43.300 impose your will in a slow way or in an undermining way and to reform the party now that is something

05:10:52.660 that i am categorically against i do not believe it is effective i believe that it is only effective

05:11:01.060 when it comes to corruption it can only be done when something is torn down but not when something is

05:11:08.260 built up so that is if you want a revolutionary movement to propel your people towards their destiny

05:11:15.780 it always has to stand in its own right and as a direct opposition to the people that are misguiding

05:11:25.140 our people so it it is it is interesting you know to hear that there were men that supported um the smuts

05:11:32.180 faction and the bota faction but could you tell us a little bit more about how jbm hertsog started um the nationalist

05:11:41.220 party and um how did he build that foundation for uh malan and stridon to continue forth from

05:11:50.900 johannes johannes let me just uh before i carry on with jbm hertsog say a few things that

05:12:04.420 uh is slightly relevant uh jopi for re was not only a political supporter of bota and smuts but he was

05:12:15.620 uh in africans we say fair lungs in other words very uh far away related to janice smarts so

05:12:29.300 to just inter interject there so just for the um audience he was a distant relative europe

05:12:35.780 if he was a distant relative so this will be very interesting now as the conversation continues okay so

05:12:41.460 continue sorry for interrupting yes uh jopi for he was a distant relative uh i'm now going to say

05:12:52.420 something else uh just uh just to to lighten up the discussion a little bit you know everybody's

05:13:04.740 is always always mentioning the bad aspects of janice smarts and uh understand well i'm not a supporter of

05:13:15.060 janice smarts but i want to tell you something that nobody knows janice smarts said to paul kruger

05:13:24.900 before the anglo boer war started he told him they must invade natal and the cape and go and take over natal

05:13:38.100 durban harbor and cape town harbor and thus preventing the british from coming into south africa that was at

05:13:47.140 that stage the there was only a few thousand british the there was only a few thousand british soldiers in

05:13:51.700 south africa and he said that if you take over the harbors we will prevent them from coming in then we can 0.99

05:14:01.060 uh wipe them out in south africa and we can bring about the afrikaner republic from the cape up till the top of 1.00

05:14:10.180 the transvaal and you know what uh paul kruger refused because there's somewhere in the bible is a little

05:14:21.300 text verse that said that that is saying you are not allowed to uh move over the boundary of another state

05:14:33.860 and go and attack somebody else in his state so because of paul kruger's inability to understand

05:14:42.100 something new and radical and act on it he actually allowed the killing of more than 34 000 women and

05:14:53.940 children 22 000 children under the age of 16 and it led to the destruction of our states

05:15:03.060 of our people of our property just because that one verse in which he believed prevented him from acting on it

05:15:13.700 then the third issue you mentioned is that of people staying inside a structure to try and reform it

05:15:23.460 now i know or rather i've read that in 1966 after dr verwoord was killed and john foster started his outward

05:15:35.380 policy and talking to blacks and inviting non-white rugby players to south africa there were people in the national

05:15:44.500 party who said they must rather stay in the national party and try and prevent this movement of this this new

05:15:56.900 policy of john foster and you know what they failed now against that some people went out of the national

05:16:06.340 party or were kicked out of the national party and they started a new political party the reconstituted

05:16:16.580 national party and they were much more effective outside the national party than inside the national

05:16:23.620 party the same in 1981 when a lot of people said no we should stay in the national party and prevent

05:16:34.020 people from handing over power to the blacks and eventually they were forced out and they founded 0.99

05:16:44.020 the conservative party so it's never effective to stay inside a structure to try and reform it and to

05:16:52.740 build it on its old basis again it always fails always now i've already explained what a

05:17:01.460 metapolitical struggle is all about and that its main proponent at the moment is alain de benoit a french

05:17:09.700 philosopher now i just want to show you how jbm herzog uh fought a metapolitical struggle without even

05:17:22.900 knowing that he's doing that in 1914 he started nationale pers to publish newspapers in 1915 he started

05:17:36.740 the burger newspaper in cape town with d.f. malan as editor in 1915 he also started another newspaper

05:17:48.100 in 1916 he started the landbouw weekblad in 1917 he started the landbouw weekblad in 1917 he started the

05:18:16.100 in 1917 they started with burger book handel that is a organization to print and publish books now another example in 1919

05:18:31.460 they started a magazine for women called the boervrouw

05:18:35.620 uh in 1914 uh in 1914 he started supporting the rebels of the 1914 rebellion and in 1916 they even founded the

05:18:48.580 organization called the help mekaar vereniging to pay the fines of the rebels and that was so effective

05:18:57.940 that money was left over and with that money they created sandtamp and sandlamp

05:19:05.620 so with that all all those newspapers and magazines and actions he always used that to promote his

05:19:17.940 ideology first of all south africa first and that afrikaners should not be overrun by the english

05:19:26.340 and he always used the language and he always used the language aspect to uh to promote his ideas

05:19:35.940 now in 1914 he he had a there was a great meeting in the world near brits and there he said that he does

05:19:48.820 not agree with both not agree with both and smuts south africa should not be subjected uh uh to britain and the afrikaner nation 0.66

05:19:59.220 should not be uh subjected by the british the english speaking in south africa and there in 1914 he founded the national

05:20:11.780 party and immediately immediately got great support from all afrikaner nationalists now i'll first hand

05:20:22.420 back to you again and then i will carry on that is absolutely fascinating to hear all of this uh you

05:20:30.020 know dr mike especially you know the the part about the the meta politics is something that i refer to

05:20:36.980 uh i didn't know about the meta politics definition but i always referred to the narrative war and you

05:20:43.620 know the the fact that he birthed all of these uh mechanisms to fight the narrative war just speaks to

05:20:51.460 the political genius of the man because the only way that we are ever going to inspire actual change

05:20:58.340 and mastering soldiers to fight um for our cause so to speak uh you know for anybody listening uh not real

05:21:09.460 soldiers we're speaking about is spiritual warfare water anyway um the only way we're going to do that

05:21:16.020 and enact that kind of thing is if we rally people around a conviction and a purpose and that's why the

05:21:24.020 meta politics and or the narrative war um is so important and why we need people fighting that

05:21:31.620 simple ideas that can be repeated and that can culminate uh around which a lot of support can

05:21:38.500 culminate um i would like to introduce another speaker which is somebody that i think uh you would

05:21:45.460 enjoy the conversation uh uh enjoy the conversation uh uh the his conversation a lot it's a friend of

05:21:51.620 mine he goes by the alias um this is dr mike the toy and esteemed guest and i hope that you guys have

05:21:59.700 at some point uh you know um the opportunity to meet each other so welcome to the panel my friend

05:22:06.340 thank you very much for the opportunity to just say hello um i think for the most part i am in a

05:22:16.900 position of uh learning this evening because this is a extremely information dense uh discussion and

05:22:24.980 i'm i'm really getting schooled on south african history so thank you johannes and thank you

05:22:30.740 um so um thank you very much for the listeners as well it's always a pleasure to hear from you and

05:22:44.740 to see you support our discussions um i'll i'll give the mic back to you johannes now dr mike um

05:22:53.940 um would it be a good uh time to go into the the part when i was reading your book it struck me that

05:23:04.260 um was in a very big sense a white nationalist and after you read the works of oswald spengler

05:23:14.900 um he came to very focused on the plight of uh the white race internationally and that caused them 1.00

05:23:24.500 that caused him some support or that lost him a lot of support within south africa and uh that's why

05:23:31.780 him and malan um had a difference in opinion can you can you clarify that for us and give us a bit of

05:23:41.540 a better perspective on that

05:23:43.620 yes johannes uh general jbm herzog had a son dr albert herzog who went to europe to go and study

05:23:56.500 there and while he was in europe he came to read the books of oswald spengler das untergang des abendlandes

05:24:06.900 or the decline of the west now oswald spengler was a great uh proponent of the organic view of life

05:24:18.340 meaning he viewed things in organic holes uh not individuals but he looked he looked at civilizations

05:24:29.620 and cultural communities and he said that every civilization have a birth a growth a high point

05:24:40.500 then a decline and eventually they had this uh they that civilization died and uh you he mentioned about

05:24:51.300 10 15 such civilizations so uh one cannot really argue with you uh for those people who have never

05:25:03.140 seen or read the books uh those uh two volumes of oswald spengler it's absolutely incredible i've never in my

05:25:14.100 whole life seen somebody who have such a a great grasp of history how he could understand everything and how

05:25:24.420 everything fits together now that book uh it's such a great uh

05:25:33.940 tref trefkrach or impact on general jbm herzog or rather let me first say uh albert herzog get all got

05:25:44.820 hold of the books the book in europe he brought it to south africa and he gave it to his father

05:25:51.140 general jbm herzog who read it and he came under the impression that all white people in the world is

05:26:01.060 actually one big organism which is 100 correct i agree with that and i'm also propagating that always

05:26:11.540 we as white people should stand together but unfortunately at that stage

05:26:18.260 we couldn't afford to stand together with the british in south africa because they were our enemy they 1.00

05:26:26.740 wanted to destroy us they wanted to destroy our language and our identity so uh herzog under the 1.00

05:26:37.380 impression of the organic view of life decided to uh work together with janni smuts of the south african 0.57

05:26:47.060 party party in 1933 they formed the coalition in 1934 they united the the south african party and the national

05:26:58.660 party to form the united party and they also won the election after that but that uh actually triggered

05:27:09.860 dr dr dr df milan to break away from herzog and the national party and he founded the purified national

05:27:20.340 party which later on uh he went into a coalition with the afrikaner party and they took over power in 1948

05:27:32.820 they took over power in 1948 so uh just to stress it again herzog did not capitulate before the british but he

05:27:48.340 thought that we as afrikaners should work with the british which to some extent i don't have a problem

05:27:56.900 with but in at that stage in south africa the british were our enemy and by doing that he actually lost

05:28:05.620 the support of all afrikaners they turned against him he eventually died a few years shortly after this

05:28:14.500 and uh he was sort of forgotten by our people and uh after that the torch of africaner nationalism

05:28:27.780 was carried by dr df malang and the purified national party

05:28:33.700 well that is extremely interesting so perhaps yebi amatsov was just the man um ahead of his time

05:28:44.900 or absolutely not perhaps he was a man ahead of his time even till this day um it is hard for people

05:28:52.100 to understand the importance of viewing white people as one organism um but it absolutely can be done

05:29:00.180 if we get the right uh if we get the right approach in our meta politics um towards fomenting such

05:29:10.500 a movement but i think that it is organically starting to happen because you see a lot of africaners

05:29:17.700 being sympathetic to america and the the white people in america and vice versa and you see the same 0.65

05:29:25.380 thing with white people supporting um the europeans or the english in um in england or in europe so that

05:29:34.900 is extremely interesting but there is also cautionary tales there for us so that we understand that our

05:29:42.420 people's needs do come first so that we don't lose our supporters base and that we always you know keep

05:29:50.740 the the original vision that uh general had of south africa first you know put your people first

05:29:57.380 but understand that we are um a part of one big organism and it is important and i think that that

05:30:04.180 is the battle for us to fight now a lot of people look at the non-whites as the biggest threat and they

05:30:11.540 are in imminent danger and the reason why it is perceived for us that they are the most dangerous

05:30:17.620 is because these people are being allowed are allowed to attack us um at free will without any

05:30:23.700 real repercussions but in terms of potential the biggest enemy that we have to this day is other

05:30:32.980 white people and therefore the way that we or potential enemy the way that we counter act that is by

05:30:42.020 by forming a movement that brings white people to the understanding that we are part of one

05:30:50.260 organism with one common destiny and once we have obtained that then nothing can stand in our way

05:30:57.620 and it doesn't matter the you know the numerical disposition that we find ourselves in

05:31:02.900 um so yeah that that that was very interesting um would you care to add more to uh or to tell us a

05:31:10.340 little bit more about you know general hats off um and his struggle between malan and himself

05:31:20.660 you honest let me just uh quickly just say two other issues mentioned two other issues the first uh

05:31:29.460 you know the idea of organic unity isn't just a idea or ideology the idea that all white people

05:31:40.340 our organism is based in in in in reality in history about 4400 uh bc

05:31:51.780 our ancient forefathers the proto-indo-europeans were living in the south of russia and the ukraine

05:32:02.180 and from there they invaded europe out of that invasion all the indo-european 0.74

05:32:09.460 peoples peoples came about the celtic peoples the germanic peoples the romans the greeks the baltic peoples

05:32:17.460 the slavic peoples even the indo-arian peoples that went to india we are all connected all of us and then about

05:32:28.980 about 2500 bc all germanic peoples were living in the area as big as pretoria in the north of germany and the south of denmark

05:32:45.220 so even then we got a smaller more uh uh uh very closely connected uh genetic biological uh origin

05:33:05.540 uh of ourselves uh of ourselves uh and you know the uh the english just like the africaners are germanic 0.99

05:33:16.020 people that is against the indish that is germanic and the irish and scottic scots are actually celtic

05:33:27.060 so the english are more related to us than they are related to the people of denmark and scotland

05:33:35.460 so the idea that all white people and especially uh us and the british or rather the english the dutch

05:33:47.940 the flemish and the germans are one group of people is is a historical fact it's proven it's not just the idea 0.99

05:34:01.700 right but as you have mentioned the enemy is is not just non-white people

05:34:10.340 uh it is as if all white communities all over the world their greatest enemy is their so-called leaders 0.75

05:34:24.980 you know you can take france for instance i don't know whether you can remember that sarkozy guy

05:34:31.620 he spoke like a racist he was far right and two or three days after he came to power he started

05:34:42.420 implementing left-wing policy and that is the problem with all the elites of our peoples all over the world

05:34:53.220 they are all uh they are our ideal ideological and intellectual elites but they are working against us

05:35:07.540 so our greatest enemy is not just other white people but more specifically our leaders

05:35:14.820 uh they are the people that are stabbing us in the back now let me just start what 0.62

05:35:27.540 uh pardon dr mike i thought you you were um you were done there but yeah it just uh this week when i was uh

05:35:35.380 i was driving in cape town and i was driving past uh a business that used to be one of my friends

05:35:42.660 and i was telling my wife actually the story used to be one of my friends father it used to be his

05:35:48.820 business but they they sold the business and moved to transfer after um after he had divorced his wife

05:35:56.980 and i thought to myself you know it's it's almost as though and this guy he was also like a very racist guy

05:36:05.380 you know and i'm thinking back and all of our family friends how

05:36:10.100 everybody under apartheid was a nationalist you know there was a very small contingent of people

05:36:17.780 that actually stood against the idea that white people were the owners of south africa and that

05:36:22.820 white people should rule over themselves but it was as when it is almost as if when hendrik 0.57

05:36:28.420 for word um you know left us uh or or died then there came this moral decline and it's very interesting

05:36:38.500 it's almost as though this moral decline fractures us into or or you know individualists that feel no

05:36:52.020 collective responsibility towards one another in afrikaans ongebondenate you know it makes us

05:36:58.180 unbound but not chained towards one another so you know i do think there needs to be a a big cultural

05:37:04.980 revolution in terms of morality and and and calling white people to a higher purpose but

05:37:12.980 one thing before we continue the conversation of herzog and malan and the struggle that they had i

05:37:18.740 actually when i read read the book um my afrikaner nationalisme of in it in my honor findings of the

05:37:30.420 pipatarian by dr malan in it he there's this famous quote where which a lot of people speak

05:37:39.700 about where he said add together those that which belong or those who belong together by inner conviction

05:37:49.460 you know and a lot of people always quote that but that quote actually goes on and it says

05:37:56.500 is basically loosely you know translated to it is not so important what your ethnic as in if you are

05:38:07.060 an englishman a frenchman or a german as long as you've got the same inner convictions you need to be

05:38:13.940 added to the fray so in a certain sense it does seem that milan also grasped the idea that white people are

05:38:24.100 part of um part of one identity but he communicated it in a way that did not ostracize the afrikaner

05:38:37.060 support base that he had so going forward when we communicate or convey these ideas of white unity to our

05:38:47.380 racial kin we have to be very careful to communicate the ideas effectively so that we bring people to the

05:38:57.460 fray and we don't atomize them do you have any comments on that before you tell us about the conflict

05:39:03.860 between milan and hersel uh johannes you are quite correct uh in that sense i can i can say

05:39:19.060 that there there are various philosophy philosophical schools that one should take notice of the most

05:39:27.620 important being the conservative revolutionary school of thought that existed in europe from about 1850

05:39:38.100 till about uh 1930 of which oswald spengler was one philosopher uh julius evola is another philosopher

05:39:52.580 wilfredo perretto all those great philosophers in europe uh wrote a lot of books and it is very

05:40:03.220 important for us to take notice of that to read some of those books to understand what they have said

05:40:11.220 and to incorporate though their ideas into our approach and uh so i can't agree more with you we should

05:40:20.820 really go and broaden our vision of what the struggle is all about and what uh the solutions are

05:40:38.020 thank you very much yeah that's that's very interesting so um do you think it would be relevant to speak

05:40:43.540 about the the conflict between hats or is there anything um other that you think is more relevant to the

05:40:50.260 conversation um or to today that we need to learn from general herzog as as a man um perhaps tell

05:40:58.260 us a bit about that son of his the son that you mentioned albert herzog that brought him the book

05:41:03.380 um of oswald spring there could you tell us about the political career of because because i i really want

05:41:10.180 i i'm i'm really interested to learn about this because one thing that is always

05:41:14.900 was very strange for me i'll tell you this story i went to purchase through a university

05:41:23.060 um and when i went to university i was i was a kid that was homeschooled i was shy i didn't speak to

05:41:30.660 strangers i i was nothing like i am today but i was standing there in the in the queues to get our books and

05:41:40.500 stuff like that and while i was standing there um my eyes caught this guy with a yet he had a beard

05:41:51.140 and you know long hair and stuff like that and a voice said to me go and speak to that guy and i

05:41:56.980 thought to myself that's that's crazy well why would i go and speak to this guy and i ignored it and

05:42:03.700 when uh certain amount of hours passed i was in the queue again after i got the book list that i

05:42:14.340 needed to go and get for my studies who do i find here at the library the same guy and i'm reminded by

05:42:21.700 of that you know that thing that i had gone speak with this guy and i walked up to him and i said hey

05:42:26.340 man um listen my name is johannes aggenbach you don't know who i am but um i got this idea that i had

05:42:34.260 to speak with you specifically and and this guy we started speaking long in the short of it he turns out

05:42:42.100 to be a distant relative of general uh koos dalari and he takes me to koos dalari's house you know

05:42:52.100 where he lived outside of luchtenberg and when i met his realtor you know he's his uh uh what number

05:42:58.500 message say uh say kleinkinners and so on when i met his his family i was so disappointed at how

05:43:06.740 liberal they were and even though their father great grandfather was this political general for the

05:43:13.860 right-wingers you know or at least for the for the boers there was no inkling of nationalist interest or anything

05:43:22.100 thing with them and i was extremely shocked by that and perhaps it had a um a defining

05:43:30.900 instance in my in my character i would say where i couldn't for the life of me understand how a great

05:43:38.420 man like that his children you know they didn't pick up the torch from him and actually um his daughters i

05:43:47.620 believe or one of his daughters was very uh well received by the english and and stuff like that

05:43:54.180 so it was a very strange phenomenon for me but why is that relevant to the topic because albert that so

05:44:00.740 he actually stayed the course and and you know followed in his father's footsteps do you do you care to

05:44:06.580 elaborate on that oh i see dr mike just dropped yeah we lost him for a second i'm trying to get him back uh

05:44:12.420 uh johannes okay thank you post yeah if we can get dr mike up um and he can maybe tell us about you

05:44:19.780 know albert herzog um and then after that we'll make so just look for it to pop up again

05:44:26.660 yeah mike kijk wanneerda alet for you um i don't know where i'm going to steer you

05:44:30.820 so you don't get it in and go out or go out and come in and on

05:44:34.820 thank you everybody for joining us for yet another uh great discussion on the broadcast

05:44:41.380 pertaining to south african uh matters and so on in a short while sorry he came back johannes he's

05:44:48.020 asking you're good thank you uh johannes uh i would like to comment uh and mention a few things first of

05:45:01.300 all uh after dr malang in 1948 won the general election and came to power uh albert uh uh general jbm

05:45:14.100 herzog died with in a very short while after that so there was never ever there were some attempts to

05:45:22.900 reconcile malang and herzog but that never materialized uh i would like to

05:45:31.300 address what you have mentioned i as you know i was now for some time not here but i know

05:45:37.060 what you are trying to say you know we as afrikaner people don't have a natural

05:45:45.940 aristocracy in our midst uh we have great leaders like let's say general herzog or uh advocate j

05:45:57.460 uh johannes gararde strijdom but their children never took up politics they there was no sense of

05:46:09.860 continuation of the family tradition to fight for our people uh i knew mr jaap marie the leader of the

05:46:20.500 hnp very very very very well uh he had two daughters and the son and you'll be surprised to know that

05:46:31.300 they turned out to be just regular people uh not even to the slightest extent interested in politics

05:46:40.500 our problem is our problem is we don't have a sense of aristocracy in our nation you know if we

05:46:50.020 if i must compare our people against the british and the germans they have that sense that sense of 0.94

05:46:59.620 aristocracy the father is in that let's say in politics and he own this or that property

05:47:07.860 and then the son comes along and he takes over the property and he also enters politics

05:47:14.340 and he learn his children from an early age what politics is all about what life is all about

05:47:21.620 and what a struggle is all about to some extent it's very much like this new concept that everybody is

05:47:30.340 he's still he's talking about that's the concept of the deep state uh we don't have that in our in our

05:47:41.060 folk and that's a great great problem the closest we ever got to a political aristocracy in our people

05:47:50.020 was the family of general jbm herzog his son albert he became the founding leader of the

05:47:59.700 herstigde nationale partij or the reconstituted national party

05:48:05.700 one of his other grandchildren became a very prominent member of the hnp charl herzog

05:48:14.660 in phoerys smith in the free state uh i knew a a niece of general jbm herzog

05:48:24.900 which was also very intelligent and interested in politics and that was the closest we ever got to a

05:48:34.020 political aristocracy in our people uh you know if as i've said uh jaap marie his children

05:48:48.500 that was not interested and and uh so that is something that we must address in future

05:48:55.300 uh that uh we must promote uh our people from learning their children what life and what politics

05:49:05.780 and what a struggle is all about and that should be uh continued over generations

05:49:16.820 absolutely that is that is absolutely so true and it's it's it's it's a principle that all

05:49:22.980 also needs to be universally applied because um our parents raise us to be too individualistic um

05:49:32.500 and there's no you know it's it's so rare that a family business will stand for generations because

05:49:41.380 the children are rather you know uh enticed or or or or you know taught to go and pursue um whatever it is

05:49:51.620 that they want to and we need to teach our children you know that continuation of heritage and and so

05:49:59.300 and and legacy would you say it's a good time for us to open the floor to any of the listeners that

05:50:05.300 would like to join for questions i see we've got some uh prominent people here in the chat um if you

05:50:11.620 guys would like to join just hit the request button and come and join us for a for a very interesting

05:50:18.260 uh discussion as always dr mike is a wealth of knowledge um something dr mike that i'll also

05:50:24.820 want us to you know speak more and more about is the evils of capitalism um because i think that it is

05:50:34.020 something that our people really really need to understand because this week uh my brother

05:50:39.940 myself my brother or is it my brother and i i i can't remember um we were standing there speaking

05:50:47.620 with an engineer that is putting up a shed for us and so on on the farm and uh he was telling us about

05:50:56.900 how good capitalism is and we started discussing it and he was like oh oh no you know i never knew that

05:51:02.820 is what capitalism does so yeah i would like us in the future to talk a lot about you know that which you

05:51:09.060 did your doctorate about you know um corporatism as a way forward for our people as an economic uh you

05:51:16.580 know substitute for our people to combat communism and capitalism and to bring our people to to you know

05:51:24.500 um their rightful place in south africa in the economic sense and in the spiritual sense

05:51:32.020 um any closing thoughts before we or not closing thoughts but any thoughts before we take uh questions

05:51:37.780 from the audience

05:51:41.620 johannes capitalism is the main reason why we are in this situation that we are currently in

05:51:51.140 the whole aim of capitalism is to make money and how do you make money you try and get uh poor blacks 1.00

05:52:00.740 which you can pay little salaries because if you pay your workers small salaries then you can put more

05:52:09.220 money in your pocket and that's why the blacks were brought into the white part of south africa 1.00

05:52:16.180 and it all has to do with capitalism capitalism's aim is to make money not to preserve the race or the people

05:52:26.420 and uh so it's a system based on individualism ignoring the race and the people and money is the only

05:52:40.900 objective capitalism is our biggest fret at the moment it creates a systemic uh problem for our survival

05:52:52.020 which we will have to address if we don't address capitalism let's say in a future state

05:52:59.060 we get our own state and we continue with this sort of capitalism we will be back in our current

05:53:07.060 situation within a few years i just want to say something

05:53:16.660 uh sorry i just i just want to say something else most of our uh listeners probably know about the

05:53:27.380 stories of king arthur and these knights of the round table

05:53:31.620 uh and at one stage king arthur gets sick and as he gets sick the whole state the

05:53:46.100 celtic kingdom of king arthur uh deteriorates to the extent that people are dying people are starving

05:53:55.140 and so somebody had to go and look for the holy grail to give to king arthur so that he can regain his health

05:54:05.940 and the moment he started drinking of the holy grail he regained this uh his uh health and the moment he

05:54:15.860 regained his health the state started uh running again like it should be

05:54:22.740 so what i'm trying to say is

05:54:28.740 to a very large extent uh much of our problem or not much of nearly all our problems have to do with the

05:54:38.500 fact that in the past we elected the wrong leaders we in future we must develop another political system

05:54:49.140 whereby we uh elect uh people based on merit to be our political leaders so my uh book the fifth book i have

05:55:04.020 written is not just uh on uh an alternative political economy but also on on an alternative political system

05:55:17.300 based based on merit those two things are closely uh connected to each other thanks

05:55:25.300 thanks thank you very much dr mike that make oh go ahead posting no no go ahead i was just going

05:55:33.620 to say i think if you want to go to hands um i think it was um weir lake sorry i can't pronounce

05:55:40.100 that in afrikaans but i think he was first and then marcus and then river

05:55:43.540 yes weir lake that's uh that's lightning in afrikaans so um very nice uh yeah we're gonna go to weir lake

05:55:53.540 if you guys can give me a couple of minutes i'm gonna step away uh for for about 10 minutes weir lake

05:55:58.900 posty would you just you know do housekeeping and make sure that we don't get anybody that is

05:56:03.220 disrespectful or anything like that um to post the questions thank you very much no problem go ahead

05:56:08.820 beer lake thank you very much uh thank you dr mike um what i wanted to say is um some of the books

05:56:23.700 that were mentioned i would say dr mike would find it encouraging because many of these books are actually

05:56:31.860 studied and read by the youth that are interested in in right-wing literature but the mention

05:56:38.660 of spengler's work actually got me thinking of another book um and that is by alfred rosenberg

05:56:48.340 it's called the myth of the 20th century so essentially this decline i i guess

05:56:57.140 there is a structure laid out for the decline of civilizations i think if you take a step back from

05:57:04.260 that we're now applying this kind of trajectory or this framework to the decline of a race as a whole

05:57:12.420 and the interesting thing to take away from these these books that study the history of civilizations

05:57:18.980 is the fact that in the myth of the 20th century um it is essentially mentioned and one of the things i

05:57:25.940 will just pick out of it that would be a i guess an explanation in terms of the mechanism that i would

05:57:35.620 not say enough i've thought of terminology uh that would that would accurately describe the phenomenon

05:57:41.700 whether it ensures the destruction of the civilization whether it uh speeds up the decline but essentially

05:57:50.740 i think the idea is what what ensures the destruction of this civilization once you've gone through many of

05:57:58.260 these steps is the fact that a debasement takes place a debasement of the key essential ingredient that created the civilization

05:58:09.540 and that specifically of course is is the race so what alfred rosenberg comments on is the

05:58:19.460 intermixing with lesser races that is essentially the killing blow to these civilizations and i think 1.00

05:58:30.660 if you study the history you see this happening time and time again where the the basement takes place

05:58:38.420 in terms of moral fiber uh the societal law and order uh i i guess you could call it the the social contract

05:58:49.620 uh falls by the wayside but what follows is this debasement of the racial component which then leads to the

05:58:59.780 complete destruction of the civilization itself and i think what's important when we look at this

05:59:08.420 and uh when we take note of it is that this has a very very big effect on our our current

05:59:15.620 trajectory uh in terms of our destruction not as a civilization but as a race

05:59:23.540 uh as a race as a whole now i know there's a lot of contention about the accuracy of the quote

05:59:33.060 and whether it's made up or there's contention about it but i think it summarized the the thing it summarized

05:59:42.100 the thinking behind this uh this idea of of the purity of your race and maintaining it

05:59:48.980 uh but it's by the spartan king that essentially says if you worship your enemy you are defeated if

05:59:56.820 you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved if you breed with your enemy you are destroyed and so 1.00

06:00:07.700 yes i just wanted to point that out because i find it fascinating and i think it's just nitpicking

06:00:16.180 nitpicking a key ingredient in what ensures the destruction of civilizations

06:00:24.020 thanks

06:00:28.740 thanks for like did you have a response to that dr mike

06:00:33.860 uh weirlich i'm i am completely agree with you

06:00:37.700 uh as you have said uh whether racial mixture uh is the start of this or the end of this process of

06:00:50.420 destruction uh one can uh mention a few ideas about that but that race mixing mixture is definitely a 1.00

06:01:02.020 component of the destruction of a civilization so i completely agree with you

06:01:11.700 yeah it's kind of like the fall of rome right um marco do you want to go ahead and ask dr mike

06:01:17.540 something yes ma'am thank you so uh dr mike um you know the atrocities that have been committed against

06:01:28.180 the boars uh came on my radar quite a while ago but unfortunately here in america and europe

06:01:37.940 you know blacks can do anything and it'll never make the news right so but that's not the question 0.97

06:01:44.820 here's the question so you you met i started studying then trying to figure out what was going on

06:01:50.820 and you made a comment where you said um at at one point to english we're trying to

06:01:58.020 um paraphrasing what you said essentially sanitize um the the the south africans the you know your

06:02:06.900 language even and so my question is what what for us that fundamentally that don't understand how this

06:02:13.540 thing got started right is was that because you know of the uh the uh the uh the problems with the

06:02:21.300 dutch and between the dutch and the english early on or why in the world were the english doing that to

06:02:27.700 you uh because they're white people too right so thank you for letting me ask the question

06:02:33.700 marco uh the the reason why this power struggle between the british and the afrikaner started is

06:02:47.780 because gold first diamonds and then gold was discovered in south africa so the british couldn't

06:02:56.820 leave us alone they wanted that gold uh there's a world famous british historian with the surname of

06:03:05.940 peckenham he wrote the book on the origins of the anglo-boer war and in it he uh mentioned the fact

06:03:16.820 that the the war actually was about uh britain's desire to dominate

06:03:24.740 uh or rather to get hold of the gold reserves in south africa so that is the main reason south

06:03:33.780 africa was extremely rich and he's still extremely rich in uh minerals and the british wanted to get hold

06:03:43.380 of that

06:03:48.660 does that answer your question marco at least thank you sir no no absolutely it makes all the

06:03:54.420 sense in the world so thank you okay perfect uh we're going to move on to river then go ahead river

06:04:04.500 your mic's on mute

06:04:13.940 river go ahead your mic's on mute just unmute yourself

06:04:24.420 uh okay i don't think it's working he dropped down so

06:04:32.340 anybody else feel free

06:04:39.940 um perhaps i can ask a question uh yeah sure

06:04:44.020 thanks uh so the it seems like i i guess i'm just speaking freely now and kind of sharing my

06:04:50.580 thoughts for but it seems i had to read that for a moment sorry about that uh

06:04:56.900 go ahead river yeah um i have a question though do you know how to like uh grow grow the movement

06:05:05.540 a little bit more no i was just saying that's all

06:05:08.900 well that might be a question for johannes as well but i mean i think it probably applies to

06:05:17.860 all across the board and i think it's my opinion is it would probably start with

06:05:22.180 building community but i don't know if any of the south africans want to touch on that

06:05:25.700 i was just saying that's all yeah i have a question for you

06:05:36.180 i think he might be a way step away for a minute yeah

06:05:41.380 so you want to hold on let me let me give you a perspective i have a question

06:05:45.060 is he still there yeah dr mike is there ask your question and then we're gonna move on

06:05:54.500 uh sorry um hey dr mike um do you know how to uh

06:06:02.900 and oh yeah i got it do you know how to like

06:06:07.060 uh transfer back uh south africa whether it was

06:06:10.740 uh sorry i yeah my where's our tongue tied sorry

06:06:17.540 yeah well your question is to you're asking dr mike is if he has an idea how to get south africa

06:06:23.140 back to the way it was where it was just yeah as well okay does that make sense to you dr mike

06:06:33.860 yes uh look let's let's take hitler for instance

06:06:38.820 before 1933 there were there were great social and political problems in germany people died because

06:06:50.740 they didn't have food to eat uh the jews controlled the cinemas the theaters and so on and so on 1.00

06:07:02.980 so meaning there was a big crisis in germany and hitler could manage to

06:07:15.540 use that crisis to his advantage eventually leading

06:07:23.860 causing him to take over power

06:07:25.940 now at the moment there is no possibility for us to take over power again in south africa in a democratic

06:07:36.580 way uh besides now the fact that i don't believe in democracy that's not a point

06:07:43.140 the fact is we can never ever take back power in south africa through a democratic process

06:07:49.940 now my personal viewpoint i might be wrong is that there will be a crisis in south africa and that crisis

06:08:03.220 will uh make it possible for a group with the right ideas and the right approach uh to

06:08:14.260 uh use that crisis to their own advantage and in the process to improve our position our political strength

06:08:27.940 our political power now uh let's let's take let's go to europe again very quickly you know you know where

06:08:40.100 germany started as a state it started with brandenburg and great german leaders like frederick the great

06:08:51.140 gradually started expanding the territory of brandenburg eventually brandenburg became the state of prussia

06:09:02.020 the state of prussia eventually united all the german states to create a second german empire

06:09:11.060 later on hitler added austria to create one big united germany now let's come back to south africa when

06:09:22.820 there's a crisis and somebody with the right ideas and sense of how to use that crisis to his advantage he can

06:09:34.980 promote himself taking over a certain part of south africa and then gradually through various methods

06:09:44.900 of which i'm not going to mention all of them he can extend his power he can extend his uh control that he

06:09:54.980 have over the land and i personally don't think we will be able to uh reclaim the whole of south africa

06:10:07.940 although uh although uh it might be possible but for now we must use a crisis to our advantage

06:10:19.300 get hold of some territory and then through various methods increase our control over uh over the land

06:10:30.180 i understand so it's kind of like a revolution kind of right

06:10:39.300 okay just bear in mind that dr mike yeah um has certain parole um prescriptions and i would say

06:10:48.420 that if if he'd allow me i would answer it in this way south africa from a historic point of view

06:11:00.340 is the country of the white man that is indisputable and the people that people that seek to dispute it 0.78

06:11:06.660 want to conquer with words and not with the traditional sense of going to a battlefield to obtain territory so 0.96

06:11:17.220 they are liars and they are very very uh you know dishonest and disruptive but this country does belong to us

06:11:29.220 us and our focus point my doctor mike is 100 correct in saying that there is no democratic way to obtain 0.91

06:11:38.580 or regain that which was stolen from us but what we can do now is we should focus on a narrative war

06:11:48.260 convincing white people yet again but they are allowed to have a country and that they are allowed to 0.63

06:11:57.620 have grievances and that what is being done to them is unjust because if you look at the south african

06:12:05.460 political landscape now with the africana people from our spiritual leaders we are told that we deserve

06:12:14.900 what is being done to us that it is god's divine punishment because we were doing the wrong things

06:12:21.860 and if we adjust our behavior this way then he will help us we are being told from our political class

06:12:29.620 that we are being punished for the sins of our fathers if you hear aaron's roots

06:12:35.380 or if you hear flip base or any of these cowardly traitors they will tell you that oh no we

06:12:43.460 must understand that the apartheid was evil and if apartheid was evil it means that our forefathers were 0.90

06:12:51.140 evil so yet again the same rhetoric is being spewed by our religious leaders and by our political leaders

06:12:58.660 and what we need to do now is form a political movement that inspires our people that does not accuse

06:13:05.860 them of being the wrongdoers but that calls them to unity to fight for justice for our people that is

06:13:14.180 what we must do now nothing else matters now that is the most important thing that is the thing to

06:13:20.660 which all of us must throw all of our efforts because only that can inspire real life action

06:13:35.860 that is the thing to do now thanks johannes yeah we're going to try not to do any fed posty stuff in

06:13:40.100 here so uh yeah go ahead dr mike if you wanted to reply yes all i want to say is uh i'm i'm still on

06:13:51.140 parole for the next 30 years of my life meaning that i can't say certain things even though i would like

06:14:00.340 to say it but i agree with johannes we must build a ideological base from which we can launch an operation

06:14:14.500 when the time is right so in this interim period where we can't act physically we must get ourselves

06:14:25.060 ideologically uh orientated and we must get our people ideologically orientated like antonio gramsci

06:14:40.180 discovered the political superstructure is not the result of the economy or the material base the political

06:14:52.660 structure superstructure is the result of the ideas ideologies morals and so on of the people so we must first

06:15:06.900 build the metapolitical moral ideological base for our people and then when the time is right we can

06:15:17.300 transfer that into real action

06:15:31.860 thanks dr mike dr vril do you want to go next and then we'll go back to you again marco okay

06:15:38.980 well i don't want to interrupt the flow and be a stopgap between marco so i'll yield to marco

06:15:44.820 no no no no brother go ahead i've i always speak too much go ahead brother

06:15:52.020 i just had a question for the co-host and are we allowed to ask like kind of like a uh like a macro

06:15:59.700 financial question about south africa that's pretty pointed and i'll tell you where i'm coming from

06:16:05.060 i had a chance to sit down with the ceo of sassall his name was fleetwood grobler

06:16:10.740 and uh it was interesting sassall for the rest of the audience is like one of the largest companies

06:16:18.260 largest employers in south africa bar none it's one of the largest energy companies in the world

06:16:24.820 and i sat down with fleetwood and i said who was a white guy and i said you got the you know the white 0.84

06:16:30.660 people are getting replaced and you're gonna get kicked out of the company he thought i was a clown uh

06:16:36.260 so that's just some context to the following question it's an opinion question for the south

06:16:40.900 africans in the group my question is thusly is do you think uh sassall is too big to fail

06:16:48.340 and if you don't know you don't know but for the americans it's like you know this is like the company 0.78

06:16:54.500 of the country and it's totally been subverted and taken over by blacks and it looks like they're 1.00

06:17:02.180 going to take a crown jewel that makes the whole country run and put it into the sewer but i just 0.93

06:17:08.660 wondered if it was too big to fail maybe you have an opinion maybe you don't and i apologize if this

06:17:14.020 is too much of a tangent thank you johannes did you are you available to answer that or i don't know

06:17:23.860 wants to i think that i think that dr mike might be way more suited to answer that question yeah

06:17:32.180 well uh let me let me explain it to you in this way you have a group of people in south africa racial

06:17:47.540 group of people in south africa that if you give them a block gold they have the ability

06:17:59.380 to change that into

06:18:04.420 s-h-i-t so uh they just have that ability 0.99

06:18:14.420 in other words they've got a strong digestive system

06:18:20.660 they'll eat the gold or what 0.98

06:18:22.020 they're the reverse midas everything they touch turns to crap instead of gold 0.75

06:18:30.340 yeah absolutely maybe i can just add a quick thought um in terms of this um 0.68

06:18:37.540 can sassel fail right i think it is a matter of perspective in terms of what you would

06:18:47.380 uh in what constitutes in your perspective or in your mind as failure because insolvency

06:18:57.060 well okay well what i'm i'm trying to lead uh my answer slightly and maybe just create a bit of

06:19:05.940 breadth around something very simple i would say um and and it is the following that every every

06:19:14.740 single enterprise every state enterprise in south africa has already failed they are essentially

06:19:23.860 running on borrowed money borrowed time and fumes it is the slightest or smallest crisis away from

06:19:32.580 absolutely catastrophically imploding and they found very interesting ways and benefactors to stop that

06:19:40.660 from happening but in terms of it being a complete failure i i think there's very little um i can

06:19:50.500 think of that would be that would stop that from being a reality at some point

06:19:57.780 thank you i appreciate the feedback

06:19:59.540 may i just say something and that is i'm i'm staying at a moment in secunda the number one place where sassel is

06:20:16.420 functioning and there is already uh rumors that the government is going to break sassel up

06:20:26.500 and to sell various uh parts of the factory to other uh capitalistic undertakings elsewhere in the world so uh

06:20:42.580 to answer you the process of destroying sassel is actually already underway on on its way

06:20:50.980 uh

06:20:55.460 thank you doctor

06:21:01.700 thanks doctor do we want to go over to marco now unless uh johannis or verleg has anything to say

06:21:08.740 i'll add something in one minute okay go ahead marco so uh you know my my question is uh

06:21:18.660 again a kind of contemporary question uh

06:21:23.060 but not at the you know the national level so

06:21:26.820 the thing that shocks me the most and i you know is like what's happening to the boars

06:21:32.020 and i've tuned into pretty much all of these

06:21:35.140 um

06:21:36.100 and i think a comment was made either a couple of sessions ago or in the last session

06:21:40.180 where you know it's like these atrocities

06:21:45.460 kind of kind of only happen i'm paraphrasing what you guys have said

06:21:50.180 uh these atrocities kindly only happen in certain parts of

06:21:54.900 south africa but but never in others and

06:21:57.940 i don't know if it was because

06:22:01.060 some are so remote i've read that some are so remote that these boars

06:22:05.300 actually radio each other at the end of the day to make sure that they're okay

06:22:09.300 and there's no spooks on their property

06:22:11.780 or whatever

06:22:13.220 but you know my question would be here's the question is

06:22:17.060 if is it true

06:22:18.580 that these atrocities only happen in certain parts of

06:22:21.300 the country and why and why does it not happen in others is it because

06:22:27.460 some are remote and some are actually willing to protect themselves

06:22:32.340 thanks for letting me ask a question

06:22:36.020 so

06:22:37.540 if you guys would allow me to answer that question i have lived in

06:22:44.340 probably four different provinces in south africa

06:22:47.540 um and i have family um probably in most of south africa

06:22:56.180 and what i've seen is

06:22:59.300 what my conviction is is that farm attacks are part of

06:23:05.220 an ongoing terror campaign to get people to move from their farms

06:23:11.140 so that the farms can fall into the hands of

06:23:17.460 the people that brought about the fall of apartheid in the first place

06:23:21.060 in other words the business room of south africa

06:23:24.100 the internationalist international finance capital as uh justin barry always says

06:23:32.020 now i used to live in the safest province in south africa

06:23:37.540 and there has already been two farm attacks there in the past two years fatal farm attacks

06:23:44.420 not talking about the farm uh thwarted or miss

06:23:50.180 how do you say farm attacks that were unsuccessful so two fatalities in two years

06:23:57.460 in the least in the northern cape with the least densely populated

06:24:02.980 province in the country and the biggest land mass as well

06:24:05.860 now these two farm attacks come right after about three years ago a major mining company said to us

06:24:17.060 that they were going to expropriate 800 000 acres 800 000 acres in that exact area that these farm

06:24:25.620 attacks happened so i think that's very relevant i think that the farm attacks that that there's more

06:24:33.860 than meets the eye to it it is obviously black and white violence that makes sense but there is

06:24:41.460 a different driving force behind it as well now in terms of is sassel too big to fail

06:24:49.700 the private sector is being surgically or the the the public sector is being surgically dismantled

06:25:04.980 because a lot of businessmen 600 businessmen came together in 1981 in november in cape town

06:25:14.580 known as it was it was a con it was a meeting known as the uh the the goeie whip the good hope plan for south africa

06:25:24.180 and in that meeting

06:25:27.300 anton rupert said that the countryside needed to be abandoned for the cities that informal settlements and

06:25:36.820 and cheap housing needed to be built and cheap housing needed to be built in the cities and every election campaign since the

06:25:44.420 the the da or the anc took over south africa has all been about you know catering to the masses building

06:25:51.300 cheap houses for the blacks securing a steady flow of immigration from the rest of africa into south africa

06:25:59.700 there is an approximate approximation of about 30 million roughly 50 million foreigners living in south africa

06:26:10.820 as we speak now why is the public sector why is the public sector under attack

06:26:17.700 in this meeting pia via boeta which to my estimate is one of the bigger 0.99

06:26:22.900 traitors that we had in the recent years and a big old scumbag he said that in the future there will be 0.93

06:26:31.940 more there will be closer cooperation between the private sector and the public sector and if you look 0.93

06:26:39.700 at the cause and effect of the failing of the public sector it caused free market the quote-unquote free

06:26:47.700 market capitalism to seize our economy now the post office doesn't belong to the state in other words

06:26:54.980 it doesn't belong to the people it's irrelevant that the blacks are now in control of the government the fact 0.99

06:27:00.100 is that it doesn't belong to the people it is now part of an international entity in other words dhl

06:27:07.780 courier guy ram couriers

06:27:11.540 whoever it is now has access to our markets and is taking over a state function now you might say oh 0.97

06:27:22.580 that's great if you're a retard if you are literally a retard you might say the following oh that's great 0.98

06:27:28.660 because i can start a business no let me explain something to you the people that you are competing 0.98

06:27:35.540 with for that logistics position are people that have businesses in multiple different countries

06:27:43.860 internationally and they have got the power to undercut you forever so if they go after our market

06:27:55.060 you cannot resist them on a financial level that is why they constantly steer us away from violent

06:28:04.340 revolution i'm not promoting violent revolution i would never do that that would be irresponsible

06:28:11.060 but i am telling you from a strategic point of view why they are dismantling

06:28:17.140 the state-owned enterprises to give room for the private sector which is part of a conglomerate

06:28:26.260 of international globalist companies that wants access to the south african markets and by doing that

06:28:34.340 they seize in effect our economy without firing one shot so it is way more effective and at the same time

06:28:44.900 they make they they depend on our racism they they say oh you know what

06:28:51.140 esc you know you know you know sussel such a big uh energy company uh you know or gas company 1.00

06:28:59.380 they're such a big company they're such a big company and these blacks they're so stupid and incompetent 1.00

06:29:03.940 that they ran it into the ground and you don't question anything further because a black man at the head of 1.00

06:29:10.500 this multi-billion dollar corporation obviously it makes sense they've got no uh pre uh what's the

06:29:18.420 i don't know the african or the englishman but you know they don't have the ability to plan ahead 1.00

06:29:23.460 obviously they're going to fail when they take a uh you know control of such an organization so it

06:29:28.820 makes sense to you but that's that's how their propaganda works in the 21st century it is tailor

06:29:35.380 made for intelligent people and that's why the idea that there's going to be um that south africa is

06:29:41.540 going to fall into a state of disrepair and that there's going to be all-out war and that if white 0.96

06:29:46.500 and another one that i like is if the white people leave south africa the blacks are going to starve 0.85

06:29:52.420 no no they're not because in relief efforts will be sent you know this propaganda is tailor-made 0.93

06:30:01.620 towards the intelligent white man because we see something we let it go to its logical conclusion

06:30:09.460 none of what is happening now is logical our enemy doesn't deal in logical conclusions our enemy wants to

06:30:17.940 cut the decks of men and sew it onto women that is the mind and the perversion of our enemies and what 1.00

06:30:26.260 they seek to achieve their methodology is not conventional it is unconventional and therefore

06:30:34.820 we must for a minute take ourselves into their perspective to try and see what they're trying to

06:30:42.980 achieve and what they are trying to achieve is to gain access to our markets without us picking up

06:30:50.420 the rifle to defend our country which is why every one of their propaganda efforts is to drive us away

06:30:58.980 from nationalistic sentiment which is to and also to drive sorry for the tirade but to drive a division

06:31:06.660 between our people they have absolutely no problem with religious zealotry because it further fractions

06:31:17.060 our power or fractures our power into smaller little subdivided groups they've got no problem with men 0.99

06:31:24.980 referring to women as whores and women you know being derogatory towards men because yet again it pits women and

06:31:34.420 men against each other breaking it our societies now power structures into small fractures so they foment 0.94

06:31:46.420 these kind of nonsense and their propaganda foments it so that we cannot unify around the idea of a national cause

06:31:57.140 um thank you johannes most banned you've been up but you didn't put your hand up so i don't know do you

06:32:08.980 want to say something before we go back to marco

06:32:17.060 most banned hello

06:32:18.020 okay go ahead marco so i i realize mr johannes is juggling a lot of uh top he's juggling a lot

06:32:31.460 of different topics here you know international resources um uh you know so just to kind of put a

06:32:39.940 bookend on my original question because he's he's really talented he's juggling a lot of things i just

06:32:44.900 put a bookend on it one thing that i'm not sure everybody's aware of but you are you're saying that

06:32:52.420 these these uh spooks that are rolling up on on farms you know and killing people you're saying

06:32:59.860 they're proxies for some nefarious organizations that are just want the land uh which would to us in 0.98

06:33:08.260 america would be like a george soros thing right some fucking guy excuse me i shouldn't forgive me 0.99

06:33:13.940 some guy out here right uh that's paying for these you know uh this other nefarious activity 0.98

06:33:22.180 so you're saying some of this activity this horrific these horrific atrocities are happening

06:33:28.340 to the boars the farmers could be they those blacks could just be i'm not saying they're they're any 0.71

06:33:34.500 better because of it but they could be a proxy for some other nefarious organization above it trying 0.90

06:33:40.180 to just get the land that is exactly what i'm saying that's why they implement anti-personnel

06:33:47.060 terror tactics that's why they don't kill an entire family but they kill one or two in the family and

06:33:53.300 mangle and maim the rest for the rest of their lives they make sure that these people live to tell the 0.57

06:33:59.220 tale you know they make sure that we are terrorized by the public by the politicians in public singing this 0.95

06:34:06.660 stuff and being allowed to sing it and at the same time the lie denying it on an international level

06:34:13.300 to create the to create the idea that we are alone you know so then people are discouraged from resistance

06:34:20.900 and then they they feel um atomized and and and you know ostracized so in my mind it's 100

06:34:30.180 uh anti-personnel uh terror campaign and so that's why they'll go in kill most everybody in the farmhouse

06:34:42.500 and then like leave the wife tied to a chair and then you know but maimed and then she'll tell the 1.00

06:34:47.940 horror story of what she saw that's what i've read is that um kind of what you're alluding to or

06:34:53.940 yes that is what i'm saying you honest you don't think that this campaign of terrorism

06:35:03.300 is simply an extension or continuation of the people's wall where they essentially did exactly

06:35:09.780 the same stuff uh planting landmines on farm roads and so forth i would say maybe it was it was a little

06:35:17.380 less personal but the tactics and and the continuation of that anti-white terror campaign uh this is

06:35:25.780 basically just the manifestation of that in the current day well it would make sense to me because

06:35:33.300 to the black man's mind he wants all of the white men gone in south africa but to the international 0.81

06:35:40.020 jewish mind he just he doesn't want white people out of south africa because then south africa absolutely 0.85

06:35:48.180 is dysfunctional that's why they create this new lifestyle centrist kind of thing where

06:35:53.780 you know in russia they had the gulags where they would take the government with guns and they would 0.84

06:35:58.820 force you to live in a labor camp but here they entice you towards the labor camp they say

06:36:04.420 goy do you i get tired of all the schwatz's uh oppressing you and killing you come come buy 0.99

06:36:12.180 a three-bedroom apartment in a gated community for four to five million rand so they get you to pay 0.70

06:36:19.700 for your little slot in the gulag in south africa that's why lifestyle centers is something that is

06:36:25.700 uniquely south african and in my mind it's nothing other than a gulag you know it looks nice because it's 0.94

06:36:32.740 got a shopping mall where you can spend your money it's got a church where you can go be indoctrinated

06:36:38.660 and it's got a school where you can go be indoctrinated but there's no sense of national

06:36:44.900 a national cause or there's no sense of national pride it's just rootless individuals but they need

06:36:52.180 them they need this schooled uh not intellect intelligent intellectual class but rather this schooled

06:36:59.460 servant class that is paid better than the impoverished people and all the while the poorer 0.99

06:37:05.540 africaners are being driven into the into the the squatter camps and they are being miscegenated 0.96

06:37:12.100 so they want a class that is able to keep south africa functional but that is also um kept in check

06:37:20.340 where they do not rebel and do not stand up against them that's what they want for white people 0.85

06:37:29.460 uh i brought river back up do you have another question river and i i think we're going to be

06:37:36.980 wrapping up in about 10 or 10 or 12 minutes so uh sure sorry about that i had to reset i had to reset

06:37:44.500 like a lot i own uh johannes i have a question

06:37:48.420 go ahead ask your question uh do you know how to grow do you know how to grow a movement like

06:37:59.620 slowly but steadily i was just asking that's all

06:38:07.780 i would say that it has to be circle it has to be centered around messaging and communicating your

06:38:16.900 messaging effectively so you've got to find a simple message that anybody can express i can repeat

06:38:25.060 which is why in south africa i always make that freedom for the white man freedom for the boor folk

06:38:31.780 get the impression that we are not free we are we are slaves right and then getting a lot of people

06:38:39.220 to start rallying around that messaging and then obviously you need orators people that are clever

06:38:48.420 um with their words you know to to be able to get that message to spread in an unorganic way so that

06:38:56.900 later on it can spread organically i i understand oh yeah one more thing if you ask me

06:39:06.500 i'm gonna i got i had to reset i had to reset again it's gonna it it don't worry about i will be back

06:39:17.140 anyway anyway thank you guys it's it's uh it's been it's been awesome chatting to you guys i'm gonna go

06:39:24.660 over to the panelist for some last questions and last thoughts uh dr wilde was there something you wanted to say

06:39:36.500 okay okay i assume dr roll has got nothing to say for us uh before i go i didn't i didn't hear you

06:39:45.780 sorry about that yeah it's the one thing i wanted to ask but i didn't want to sidetrack it was um

06:39:52.820 you know i when i read the south african news and i don't know if this is bs or not but

06:39:59.220 i see a lot of uh you know the people behind the uh kill the board songs and everything and the

06:40:07.540 anti-white movements i see a lot of pictures with jewish people around them

06:40:12.420 and i want to put it in the in the bubble but you know i don't want to post something i don't know if

06:40:18.340 it's true or not but i just didn't hear a lot i heard a lot about blacks organizing you know to

06:40:25.620 completely you know upend the white people but i didn't hear a huge discussion about the jewish

06:40:34.420 situation and what their overarching influences because i see it in the south african press but

06:40:40.980 i didn't really hear it in the space but i didn't want to derail the conversation no but i want to say

06:40:49.780 that when always when we hear something life is about people trying to sell you 0.63

06:40:56.260 bullshit constantly right so it's it's like one sifting sifting journey of sifting through the muck 0.86

06:41:03.620 if if it makes sense and whenever you hear the following words this is this is a rule of thumb 0.98

06:41:10.180 this is something that you can use to navigate successfully through this life of multi-racialism 0.92

06:41:18.180 that we all live in this hellscape of multi-racialism whenever you hear the following words 0.96

06:41:23.860 blacks organizing then something must tell you you're probably being lied to blacks have got no 0.98

06:41:31.540 organizational capacity my friend it doesn't exist okay blacks organizing should be the biggest thing 1.00

06:41:39.700 that it's a bullshit story now are there black organizations yes um but the big the the biggest 0.98

06:41:48.420 organization black organization black organization that thought it fought against apartheid right was the 0.99

06:41:54.740 ANC the people that formed the freedom charter of the ANC were roof thirst alan lipman beata lipman

06:42:09.380 etheldrist and lionel barenstein now these are not africana surnames they're also not english

06:42:18.020 so they're not africaners and they're not english now what could they be they were all of them

06:42:23.460 immigrants that came to south africa after the angular war war so one could say immigrants that

06:42:29.700 arrived here at the turn of the century not natively from south africa not africaners not english people

06:42:38.900 helping blacks organize against white people i don't know who could they be you know could it be jews

06:42:45.300 you tell me it's a mystery johannes it's a mystery it's absolute mystery for a retard like myself i would 0.55

06:42:54.100 never know i couldn't say you know in my mind they're just good christians like harry oppenheimer he was

06:43:00.580 a christian you know he converted to christianity so in my mind these people are just good christians

06:43:06.260 anyway did you have something to say um i also hear rob hershoff is apparently uh an anglican if

06:43:15.380 you can believe that um i wanted to say another uh point to mention is you know the the logicized

06:43:24.580 character uh saint nelson mandela as they call him um whose first benefactors in his legal profession were

06:43:34.980 one nut brechman and another lazar sidelsky so i think this very much uh emphasizes what you have already

06:43:45.620 pointed out 100 percent okay dr mike detui closing thoughts thank you for for a great conversation

06:43:54.020 tonight dr might i learned so much as i always do when speaking to you it was such a pleasure and an

06:43:59.860 honor um any closing thoughts from your end uh thank you johannes i've been thinking

06:44:10.020 is it possible for uh the broadcast or the white excellence radio to create some sort of

06:44:24.100 uh uh uh board where we can put say something typed one and a half pages where everybody can go and read it

06:44:40.740 where i can say for instance uh mention what corporatism is all about so that when we discuss something

06:44:56.820 then people can uh go and read before the time what is perhaps uh what we are going to discuss

06:45:07.060 or say something about general herzog or uh a government based on merit small documents one page two

06:45:17.860 paid pages isn't there a possibility to create such a place where we can put small articles

06:45:30.020 that is an excellent idea dr mike we should certainly speak about it off air anybody that

06:45:38.340 would be willing to help with something like that obviously you know shoot me a dm but that is a good

06:45:42.580 idea and a very great suggestion we should absolutely get to work doing that thank you for

06:45:48.260 joining us dr mike and to the panelists thank you for co-hosting as always

06:45:53.140 um both the thank you to white excellence radio for giving us a platform and it's a lot to always

06:46:00.260 share our thoughts and uh news from south africa we always try and do it in a manner that keeps the

06:46:06.260 focus on what we should do um you know and who we are so after us we will be uh you guys will be

06:46:14.660 listening to 1488 radio and they will be joining us shortly it's been an absolute blast tonight i really

06:46:21.940 enjoyed the conversation i'm looking forward to more like this and i like the idea dr mike that you

06:46:28.180 just gave that that you know we should give uh small summaries of the the discussion that we are

06:46:33.940 going to have and then obviously you know post if you could send me the link i need to download all of

06:46:40.020 those i'm just struggling with my internet so it it sort of this discourages me um i am still a full-time

06:46:47.300 farmer i have very little time for uh you know for for politics and i really you know wish that it could

06:46:54.580 be different but for now i'm a full-time farmer and uh i'd like the recording so that i can upload it

06:47:00.340 to youtube or to rumble or to someplace you know for people to listen to uh the previous um iterations

06:47:07.940 of the broadcast as always everybody thanks for joining us i can send you it johann it's no problem

06:47:13.780 yep um thanks everybody we'll see you next time

06:47:19.220 thank you guys right for the bit man you know on salveen

06:47:24.580 thank you johannis thank you posty

06:47:47.780 always informative as usual keeping tabs on what's happening on the uh i don't know if it's

06:47:56.820 called the cape but uh down there in south africa uh we've said it before and uh it seems to be still

06:48:08.820 true in some regards that south africa in some sense is our future here in america and other places if we

06:48:17.460 don't get a handle on what's going on uh once we slip down that slope it is uh it gets more and more

06:48:26.820 difficult to climb back out and the history of south africa was very interesting um so thank you again

06:48:35.460 to uh dr mike detui or due to it for uh for giving us that rundown and uh and breaking that out that was

06:48:47.860 very interesting uh and with that we are we headed into 1488 radio getting set up here on the back end

06:48:56.500 thank you all for being here thank you for uh staying tuned to boercast

06:49:04.500 taking the place of white power lunch hour on fridays here on white excellence radio it is a

06:49:10.980 pleasure and an honor to have them as a part of our our lineup and switching gears here to 1488 radio

06:49:19.540 just to give you uh the rundown and the what have you's as usual we have uh the 14 words and the 88

06:49:26.820 precepts as uh buttresses to our cause here the 14 words if you're unfamiliar are we must secure the

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06:52:49.940 white reich has uh other work going on today so i'm not sure about his availability um as well

06:52:59.620 radio weimar um may have something too i don't know about that but we'll see we'll we'll wait and uh

06:53:07.540 and get them on stage when they do show up that said uh marco are you on stage right now for mine is

06:53:17.060 is shows you as a listener but you might be on stage yeah no all right um dr vril how are you today

06:53:25.940 how did you like uh the boer cast and and uh what are your thoughts about what's going on in south africa

06:53:33.780 yeah i mean uh i don't want to do a retread and uh i know you want to move on to bigger and greater

06:53:42.020 things but i mean my i don't know if you're in the space or not i was really curious about

06:53:48.580 i mean i had to sit down with the former ceo of sassol just like the largest energy company in the

06:53:54.100 country major employer and one of the largest companies for energy in the world and that you

06:53:59.220 know the guys you know the the management team was basically german and sassol even though it's

06:54:05.460 a south african company the intelligentsia and the cognoscenti are basically out of germany

06:54:10.900 a bunch of chemical engineers and i told the prior ceo i said you know you're you're gonna have white

06:54:18.340 replacement i mean there's guys that you know should have been a pe teacher for the elementary school

06:54:24.500 taking on major positions at the sassol company and i said you guys are going to get your heads 0.96

06:54:30.500 cut off and i got kicked out they told me i was a clown they told me i was a racist and so when they 0.96

06:54:35.460 had this boer cast thing on i was like oh perfect i just wondered if this company was too big to fail 0.83

06:54:41.460 or you know because you can have a totally loser management team but if it's systemic to the national

06:54:49.060 security and the well-being of the economy of an entire nation that can go on forever so

06:54:54.420 i didn't i didn't know my mic thing was still enabled but that's the rehash and uh i just felt

06:55:00.820 very blessed to have people on the ground you know tell you you know what you think because you can think

06:55:06.180 a lot of things but when you people live there 24 7 for decades you know that's that's reality not 0.99

06:55:12.740 some idiots guests from america yeah no exactly that's that's what we really appreciate about those 0.98

06:55:18.500 guys over there because uh you can make all the guesses you want from over here but what are they 1.00

06:55:25.060 worth uh unless uh you know you know really what the what the blood is and what it desires on the soil

06:55:33.380 where it is and for me i've listened to and talked to them enough to uh to know that uh they want to stay

06:55:44.340 there they want support and staying there they want to be there in south africa and take south africa back 0.98

06:55:52.820 so

06:56:00.980 i think dr vril uh may have uh dropped maybe we're having uh some technical difficulties but welcome radio

06:56:08.820 yeah so the the folks in south africa want to stay there they want support uh mostly encouragement

06:56:15.380 and moral support uh but maybe some some material support at some point as well so it it helps this

06:56:24.260 you know sift through some of the propaganda i know when trump was talking about south africa

06:56:30.420 and inviting the uh those refugees to leave south africa you know i i was against that principally

06:56:40.100 because the boers that i know who are talking to us from south africa uh were not happy about those

06:56:48.340 people leaving um so you know when when that's the case you know we have uh you know we have boots on

06:56:59.780 the ground that can inform us to what is actually happening there so again we really appreciate the

06:57:05.140 broadcast uh johannes and uh tim dr mike and others who come up and let us know what's going on boots on

06:57:14.180 the ground there because uh we built south africa as a white people and we should keep it there's no 0.99

06:57:20.100 reason to give it up so uh radio what's going on brother welcome to 14 8 radio what's up boys

06:57:27.300 what's up um i'm gonna uh just jump in and do some uh some audio checks on the back end real quick so

06:57:37.780 give me just a moment be right back

06:57:56.980 so uh radio what's happening on the timeline what are you seeing what's news i haven't really uh

06:58:03.940 checked it too much um i don't know if there's anything major probably spill over from last

06:58:10.260 couple days i don't know if there's any new breaking news today fridays are typically slow news days

06:58:16.580 so i think that that's probably the case the case here i don't know if anything interesting well i guess

06:58:22.740 all the other shows weren't really kind of current events driven so yeah i don't um i don't know i don't

06:58:28.100 think i think it's all the normal the normal slop right there's there's is there any new slop or is

06:58:33.940 it just the same yeah it's a new slop there's uh talk um you know rumors you know how they uh get the

06:58:39.780 whispers out there and then they they follow it up with uh concrete uh the one that i'm seeing is

06:58:46.660 the uh pardoning of g lane maxwell uh so that's uh you know something that the the reporters are asking

06:58:56.260 trump if he's gonna do and you know how he uh hems and haws and kind of leaks it out there and then

06:59:01.300 you know some sometimes they just follow up with uh with the conclusion and uh and go ahead with it

06:59:09.060 so that'll be an interesting one i know that's stirring up a lot of uh of talk in the maga world

06:59:15.140 a lot of people you know talking on both sides of that issue whether it's a good thing that um

06:59:22.100 um uh that the epstein files don't come out i think the uh the nature and this has been a contention

06:59:31.300 for me since my adulthood the the nature of the relationship between the people of the united states

06:59:39.460 and the government being one of uh you're you're not capable of uh handling the truth

06:59:50.980 so you don't get to know what's going on and then we're supposed to just trust the plan from there

06:59:56.980 right it's it's been like that my whole entire life i i've never been interested in politics

07:00:02.180 because of that reason and knowing that uh you know the yeah i i had suspicions and they've all kind

07:00:10.580 of been confirmed as a youth that there's a coercive uh blackmail operation in place or some sort of

07:00:20.980 uh some sort of coercive element among the elected folks that turned them into useless uh enemies of

07:00:31.620 the people so that that was always my assumption it just kind of you know time after time after time

07:00:38.420 bore that out so you know the fact that anything ever happens um you know and going to these epstein files

07:00:47.140 files that you know the the storyline is that you know best case scenario that the epstein files are

07:00:56.820 full of information that if we found out would just ruin the faith and uh of the people in the

07:01:03.940 government it'd be just too much and we just can't handle it so we just uh just go back to uh voting in

07:01:11.780 you know the next uh retard into uh the oval office the the epstein office bigger than i think most 0.98

07:01:17.940 people understand i mean this is you can't understate the the power and the institutions

07:01:25.460 that were implicated and it really was almost uh a super he operated above any state government so

07:01:33.780 was there handlers but his his i mean he controlled the estate of one of the wealthiest jews in the

07:01:42.900 united states um what was it let a leslie wexler um just multi-billion dollar estates and access to 1.00

07:01:51.780 funds so it was i mean it's got to be one of the most successful operations of its kind in

07:01:57.940 modern american history i mean there's a multi-decade multinational

07:02:03.780 uh subversion and infiltration and um uh what's the other word i'm looking for um compromise

07:02:13.060 operation so i mean he compromised heads of state royal you know uh royal aristocrats at every level of

07:02:23.620 some of the most powerful governments in the world so it's it's bigger than trump um it's it's just it's so

07:02:30.260 huge it's just such an endless topic and it's kind of already known i guess what is releasing a lot of

07:02:38.020 this is it just kind of reeks of of grifting and and just content uh uh people are thirsty for content

07:02:45.780 and for more slop people are voracious in the comments on this these these these mentally cooked 0.72

07:02:53.540 cards are just like anything that anybody within the fbi posts anything the white house posts all

07:03:01.620 that you just you just go to the replies and it's just like shut up give us the files and it's like 0.72

07:03:09.460 do you not know enough about this i i guess that's sort of like i don't see people

07:03:15.460 may and maybe i just don't catch it but just doing deeper analysis on what it really is like i don't

07:03:21.220 understand how we don't know enough about that already to make a really good accurate objective

07:03:25.940 assessment and analysis on what it was what it wasn't who was co-opted it's more like who wasn't

07:03:32.740 co-opted um and and who wasn't compromised would you say years would you agree that um the epstein files

07:03:42.340 contain such material that uh they would really destroy faith in central government probably

07:03:51.060 probably yeah but that's that's how you know uh domestic and foreign intelligence works and

07:03:56.580 that's how the entire the entire world works like this that's the sad truth is that you can't even

07:04:02.340 become like a federal judge in the united states without some there being some level of dirt and

07:04:07.700 control mechanism and leverage over you so it's very difficult to get in these positions of power

07:04:14.340 people don't realize this this is just the hard truth of the depth of the corruption it's very hard to

07:04:19.380 get in these very powerful influential positions whether you know their lifetime appointments or

07:04:25.620 whatever the case may be without there being some degree of leverage so that you're a controllable

07:04:30.420 participant within the broader institutional structure so you know do you think that's true

07:04:36.900 for men and women or do you think women get a bit of a pass on that no women don't get a bit of

07:04:44.180 the pass women are very susceptible to leverage coercion threats manipulation blackmail they're 1.00

07:04:49.860 in just in different ways i mean you threaten a woman's family she'll do just about anything

07:04:53.860 so well well well i i think they're compromisable in that way i do agree with that like um who comes to

07:05:02.340 mind is pam bondy pam bondy um do you do you think she needs blackmail to go that's kind of maybe the

07:05:09.460 question is do you think pam bondy or you know who's that this other um habiba ali or whatever 1.00

07:05:16.660 her name is she just got named the us elena haba elena haba yeah there we go so uh she just got named

07:05:24.260 u.s attorney uh right so do you think they they need the level of of uh you know blackmail and coercion

07:05:34.180 that men do or do you think they're happy to go along with the program that's kind of the question

07:05:40.020 that's that's what i get out of uh elena habib habibi and uh and pam bondy

07:05:51.300 they're establishment players i mean they're establishment players i mean you have to

07:05:56.020 i mean and i think it's situational i mean i'm obviously making generalizations and payment broad

07:06:00.580 strokes but there's um it's situational to not every not every single person within every single

07:06:06.820 influential position united states especially the federal level it's a huge bureaucracy is

07:06:12.260 automatically immediately corrupted um in every way shape and form but a lot of there's just a lot

07:06:19.220 of corruption within the federal bureaucracy and even at the state level so yeah you live in a very

07:06:25.060 corrupt society it's a very people are very corruptible you know we live in an age of we have

07:06:31.140 multiple decades of very advanced knowledge of very sophisticated psychological manipulation and control

07:06:39.540 tactics that the government develops at a tremendous cost and that's turned inward you know the

07:06:46.660 psychological operations and just various uh blackmail coercion and control operations to control

07:06:53.700 people people so yeah we live in a very controlled environment where the people that you get in

07:06:59.540 these positions they're just often controlled it's it's less of an if it's to to what degree by whom

07:07:04.900 and for you know so it's it's it's just almost the varying degrees of severity of control but um yeah

07:07:10.980 there's there's a lot of corruption yeah yeah and uh most people don't want to know about it right

07:07:17.700 most people want to want to think that you know this uh this operation is uh there's white hats and black

07:07:25.460 hats in there and i think there may be some truth to that uh but the uh the scale and especially the public

07:07:35.060 figures of all of this uh it's not as um spy versus spy as as people want to make it out to be it's it's uh

07:07:45.300 uh almost just uh completely uh completely you know uh subverted i mean and i just think back to

07:07:55.460 the the founding fathers yeah was there corruption was there interest uh in you know going with a

07:08:04.660 larger government a federal government with a lot of centralized power versus you know state uh disbursement

07:08:13.140 of power and and keeping states rights um supreme etc um but ultimately we're just dealing with the

07:08:22.340 maturity of of which sides won out and what that means in in a government it's it's not an easy

07:08:31.700 unwind and it's not like there's this key that people are gonna you know like a epstein files that

07:08:39.220 if we expose this then everything will come together and be clear and we'll get freedom and

07:08:45.700 you know then the federal reserve will be taken down i mean it's much more complex and matured

07:08:51.860 and kind of established in a in an entrenched bureaucracy that is going to be uprooting of it

07:08:58.980 is not going to be comfortable i would say like it won't be comfortable to uproot all of

07:09:04.100 the you know current established bureaucracy and just be you know move on next year it's going to

07:09:10.740 take uh it's either going to take a very long and painful time or it's going to be quick and painful

07:09:17.620 uh but it's going to be painful nonetheless i think and i wonder what uh what dr vril um if you're

07:09:25.060 following along with this dr vril did you want to uh jump in there i want to jump in but i don't

07:09:31.780 want to change the subject of something you're already on track with

07:09:38.660 now i think i think the epstein um book is kind of closed on this right now um ultimately

07:09:46.100 a short topic because i i just don't i don't think there's anything new uh to be honest about it just

07:09:52.420 um you know some clamoring on the timeline but yeah what do you got i just wanted to go back to

07:09:59.300 something you mentioned about 10 minutes ago it seemed like it was a slow news day friday

07:10:04.100 and actually the thing i want to jump in on was was actually today has a really big news day

07:10:11.140 as it pertains to the you know the jewish brainwashing leveraging the uh the mass media 0.98

07:10:19.220 so skydance got the approval for the acquisition of paramount via fcc and the federal approval

07:10:27.460 means basically that the torch that the jews have i mean that they they own paramount now

07:10:34.580 and paramount owns like i don't know i'd have to reference a gtb flyer to see

07:10:39.780 all the media properties that paramount controls that everybody watches in the country

07:10:45.060 but basically you know sumner redstone had you know the massive jewish hand on the media helm and then he

07:10:53.700 transitioned that to his cretin little daughter goblin sherry redstone or i guess as they call it shari 0.68

07:11:03.300 and now the uh the helm has been patched from sumner to sherry to uh david ellison larry ellison's son 0.93

07:11:11.700 so as of today we have a brand new generation at the helm of jewish controlled mass media brainwashing 0.97

07:11:18.420 and uh as jews do they completely fucked over all their shareholders and they're going to dilute 0.99

07:11:25.060 everybody did you say skydance do you mean bike dance no dude skydance uh what what what the movie 0.96

07:11:34.500 studio yeah david ellison's the ceo they just took it over today yeah i mean these things always change

07:11:42.100 hands and they always keep it within jewish control the media apparatus is firmly under jewish control 0.96

07:11:48.900 so they're not they were never going to sell one of these giant media conglomerates to a not to a

07:11:55.860 gentile so yeah it's just going to change hands from one powerful jewish you know uh family or dynasty 1.00

07:12:03.220 to another so yeah that's that wasn't wait wait larry ellison's uh he's he's like a conservative guy

07:12:10.100 though so that's he he he's still he's still come on come on i thought there's good jews there's good

07:12:16.500 jews i mean you could argue i mean he's more of a right-wing technocrat jew um if there's such a

07:12:23.620 thing but yeah no he's still you know he he's he's above party politics i mean he operates at a level

07:12:29.220 that sort of supersedes you know is the type of guy that could like you know buy small nation states with

07:12:34.420 his yeah net worth so yeah i mean that's to be expected like i don't debate i don't debate that

07:12:40.980 a jew would take over another jew and that's not news but i think when one of the largest media 0.81

07:12:46.100 properties in the world passes the baton to a new generation and it gets federal approval today

07:12:51.620 that would warrant a footnote i agree yeah these things happen all the time i mean at&t sold off uh

07:12:58.660 you know their media to you know uh warner brothers they sold off warner brothers it spun it

07:13:04.340 off into warner brothers discovery that's headed up by you guessed it david zaslov a jew so it's just

07:13:11.620 it's it's younger jew replacing older jew so yeah it's i don't know if it's going to change anything

07:13:19.220 it's still it's still jewish media dominance is that's the unfortunate part is it's uh it's jewish media 0.96

07:13:26.340 man that's that's what that is succession yeah i mean and uh it does lead to a broader question right

07:13:36.420 whether or not this um this holds right the uh the the jewish influence and i call it influence as

07:13:48.420 opposed to like power that the jewish influence through these apparatus apparatus has 0.91

07:13:56.660 has been exposed it's not it's not wielding the power that it used to right the the box office

07:14:04.900 the the propaganda it's it's failing at a level that is um is is cataclysmic i would call it it's

07:14:16.180 and i don't think i'm being hyperbolic there that the ability for them to control the narrative

07:14:22.260 is is steadily weakened uh i don't know if they're making any money at all in hollywood right now right

07:14:32.340 so it's a big deal for something to to pass hands and get approved especially going to larry ellison

07:14:39.780 right what it was what does larry ellison and his family offer this company um as leadership right

07:14:49.300 maybe the ability to um leverage finance through oracle through larry ellison himself i mean it's not

07:15:01.300 insignificant that this guy is interested in a in a massive project like that but

07:15:09.060 it's still is is it salvageable and is it just going to be used to lose money while they

07:15:16.660 uh try to distract and subvert as the ship goes down the sinking of the titanic i don't know

07:15:23.620 it's it's worth keeping an eye on though marco what do you got i you know i think that uh mr radio

07:15:30.580 and dr vril you know both have valid points uh you know but i i'm not sure that just transferring

07:15:37.620 you know something from one ripoff to another is going to change the way you know that we think about

07:15:43.620 it right so you know i think our best bet is we all know mainstream media is fuckery i'm not supposed

07:15:51.700 to curse on here i'm sorry i'm working on that we know that mainstream media is what it is and we

07:15:57.060 know that online media is kind of what's changing the world so you know my only my only point would

07:16:03.700 would be that uh just handing something from one ripoff to another uh probably doesn't change very

07:16:10.340 much so thanks for letting me share yeah i kind of i kind of agree to that it's significant to keep

07:16:19.140 an eye on the moving parts on the chessboard but you know the uh if we're looking at pieces on the

07:16:27.700 chessboard and you know who's who's taking and and and grabbing the uh this the the places

07:16:39.460 you know there's there's a it's not in the favor of the the folks who've been uh running and and really

07:16:49.780 and i'll i'll i'll reference a rob schneider speaking of uh of hollywood right rob schneider 0.88

07:16:57.220 um he's a he's a right-wing jew right he's a he's a trump supporter uh he gets a lot of crap from it 0.66

07:17:03.860 from his uh his liberal buddies i don't know how adam sandler feels about it i know they're pretty close

07:17:10.740 in the past but rob schneider is like you know don't be mad at jews guys you know we're not all the

07:17:16.580 same whatever and it's the reality is uh rob that racially you're if you're a jew you're middle

07:17:25.380 eastern and i'm sorry but i think we can conclude after thousands of years of trying that it's not a

07:17:35.620 working relationship and and you can't stay here so the ultimately what you know this is going to

07:17:44.740 have to crumble and and they're not they're not winning they've siphoned off and and parasitized

07:17:52.500 as much as they can to the point that they're at now and and the distractions really and this is why i

07:18:00.020 think it's important for us to have conversations as white people and understand what the what the 0.80

07:18:05.380 game plan is because they want to distract you oh israel's bad jews are bad so palestinians let's 1.00

07:18:11.380 support the palestinians look what the jews are doing to palestinians wave the palestinian flag 1.00

07:18:16.100 oh look at what you know it's and it's just distraction after distraction after distraction

07:18:20.820 when the reality is like what arval is doing which is a uh which he's gotten and and is utilizing

07:18:34.180 the attention for his benefit and and that is to secure a small existence for white people 0.78

07:18:43.780 and a future for their children right just a small slice and they and so these are the things that are

07:18:50.100 important right you know he doesn't need to take a side against israel or geopolitics he's he's got

07:18:58.180 to get down into the like he's doing return to the land dig into the soil make it their own and then

07:19:04.580 defend legally against the uh the attack uh and and utilize the media weaponize their own uh tactics it's

07:19:13.780 it's very uh it's very telling that he's getting media wins here that sky news you know posted an

07:19:24.100 article and then retracts the article because it makes him look good and they tried their best but

07:19:30.340 this is not where we're at anymore we're not at a place where you know people are worried about being

07:19:36.340 called white supremacists it's it's no longer uh a a threat because look when you take everything and

07:19:45.300 they say this like nothing's more dangerous than a man with nothing to lose well we've got nothing to

07:19:52.260 lose at this point because it's either make the make the choice and do something or it's all gone anyway

07:20:01.940 right so those of us who have uh a bit of of something to invest time experience money and

07:20:12.100 are putting that toward a cause this is this is next steps and and it's and it's you know we're the

07:20:20.100 ones who can bear the burden of this and so this is you know just changing the focus from from politics

07:20:25.940 and epstein back to you know what we're doing on the ground and and how we're networking and and the

07:20:32.580 talking points that we're able to get out there and the support that we're able to give when we can

07:20:37.380 give it um you know boosting i think arval just a heads up guys uh arval is asking for a boost on one

07:20:45.460 of his posts so if you do uh actually i'll go find it and uh get it out here um it's it's not

07:20:53.540 and and ready i'd like to hear from you what he's asking for is to help him boost the idea that

07:21:01.460 that that uh return to the land and the organization isn't trying to create a white world

07:21:09.860 they're they're supporting segregation is basically the premise that they're going on i think it's a

07:21:16.020 good premise a good arguing point what it he arval to his credit i think um has become a

07:21:22.660 solid spokesman for rttl i mean it's if you look at the way he frames the criticism i'd say this um

07:21:30.260 the way that he responds to the criticism if you watch that sky news which was some pretentious

07:21:36.660 british journalist with a clear agenda if you watch that sky news it was an attempt at a hit piece

07:21:43.140 like in the clearest sense and you know the hypocrisy is just i think more than people

07:21:47.540 can stomach because there was just a year or two ago that that black only um uh land acquisition in

07:21:57.140 georgia which you know no surprise didn't go anywhere i think it was a bunch of nox that put up a couple 1.00

07:22:03.300 campers never built the structure no nothing went nowhere not surprising but i i think um i i i think

07:22:10.980 that rtt is well as is rttl is winning the the the in the court of public opinion the information war

07:22:18.180 i mean they're definitely winning i i think arval's you know pretty pretty philosophical guy pretty well

07:22:23.780 read and well researched guy and um yeah i think he keeps it simple and it's hard to dispute and i think

07:22:32.500 the only it's very telling people the way that they react rttl it's usually non-white foreign nationals 0.87

07:22:39.940 that have come here and they a lot of times some of the most vocal people are the ones that are

07:22:43.940 successful because they're the ones that see the highest risk it's it's the it's the indian national 1.00

07:22:49.300 it's the educated foreign nationals they're probably the biggest opposition i think the low-grade 1.00

07:22:54.100 opposition from like low-level like eco-terrorists and activists it's really it's going to be interesting

07:23:01.700 to see because there's a lot of enemies of this um but i i think that the hypocrisy and the double

07:23:07.140 standards are going to be insurmountable for these people i i don't i i see rttl being

07:23:12.980 successful and weathering this this pr because if the old adage that all publicity is good publicity

07:23:19.380 holds true they're getting a lot of free media a lot of free press as they say yeah and um and i

07:23:27.300 think i think arval you know navigates this stuff for i don't believe that he has kind of formal media

07:23:32.340 training i would almost guarantee he doesn't but he does have practical media training from

07:23:37.700 doing content himself so he's no slouch he's done formal media uh at least on the content creation

07:23:44.420 side which kind of gets you to get your rhetoric and your talking points and you're organizing your

07:23:48.740 thoughts and he's just a smart guy so i mean that's all to say he he's a smart well-read well-researched

07:23:55.300 intelligent guy so i think he's well equipped to handle this and um i mean i don't envy being his

07:24:02.500 position of being the front man for this extremely controversial organization that's getting all this

07:24:07.700 theoretically negative press and all this unwanted attention but i gotta think that those guys peter

07:24:14.020 searcy and and and arval were prepared for this because this was unavoidable at some point if they

07:24:19.540 were going to want to scale this get the word out make it widely known and really have it be a

07:24:23.780 true a quantifiable financial success um this was something that was always going to come so i gotta

07:24:30.420 think these guys around him that are well equipped to deal with this adversity yeah they gained they

07:24:36.340 gained out this uh this response kind of what they were going to get back and and uh it's it's this uh

07:24:43.540 post i put up in the nest actually i'm gonna um revise this he wants uh he's asking for likes on this

07:24:52.420 post i'm gonna put it up here uh out of here um it's a response a reply that he put on to

07:25:01.220 the daily sneed a daily sneed is like i guess um um how big they got 120 000 followers so just

07:25:09.060 the news organization and so uh the daily steed did a little spotlight on uh on this kind of taking nbc

07:25:19.380 news clips and um and uh doing a a little piece on what they're doing one of the things that is

07:25:31.060 interesting with the daily sneed is they start with the return to the land project in ozarks and then

07:25:38.500 their second post is a referral to what the uh these black real estate developers building a black

07:25:47.060 owned micro home community in college park georgia right so um and i don't know how that project's

07:25:56.260 going i i kind of remember hearing something recently it's not going well over there um but

07:26:02.020 you know i think it's worth taking a look at but the the daily sneed is positioning this as hey fairs

07:26:08.180 fair you know this is this is happening here and this is happening there uh and giving i think a pretty

07:26:16.180 fair rundown but our vol is asking uh for for help getting this uh this as many likes as possible so

07:26:23.780 that it can be the first uh the first reply on this thread and it says return to the land supports

07:26:32.260 the right of all groups to form intentional communities around the identities they value

07:26:37.620 i'm happy to talk with any critics about our association and its goals it's not wrong to

07:26:42.420 live among your own people so like you said radio he's his his framing and his his grounding

07:26:48.740 um of these ideas is um is is pretty strong and pretty sound and and these are good talking points

07:27:00.100 that you can yeah you can sit on and again to uh to what we talk about here these are these are a

07:27:06.020 means to uh to have a normie conversation uh around the water cooler saying hey why not just let them do

07:27:15.460 it you know it's it's uh it's normalizing uh the idea that that we're allowed to uh to segregate and be

07:27:24.420 a part of communities we want to be a part of without having to just throw in random token uh negroids 0.82

07:27:32.420 and mongoloids and asiatics and so forth so it is doing very well not just as an organization but

07:27:44.100 it's doing well in the information war really good stuff to see yeah marco go ahead

07:27:50.980 look um you know this one brother um from the previous uh session of white excellence radio said

07:28:00.420 you know they're they're never gonna you know own anything or take care of anything and so i just

07:28:08.100 kind of wanted to share you know i'm an alabama redneck man and so you know the saying down there

07:28:14.340 is this you could give a you give what you could give uh spooks a whole a whole city and within five

07:28:20.820 years the white man will have it back right they they can't manage their way out of a paper bag

07:28:25.860 and so um you know it's it's a it's a fact man i mean everything in birmingham that has been handed 0.98

07:28:33.940 over is just shit and that's the only profanity i'm going to use in this one so thank you for letting 0.75

07:28:40.900 me share no worries and i mean when you got it when when it fits you know use it um it is true right and 0.97

07:28:50.740 they there's been other people who say similar things like you know you throw you throw uh a

07:28:57.860 bunch of white people onto a desert island and in a decade it'll be the best place on earth to live 1.00

07:29:05.700 right it's like we we know it's not it's not bigoted it's not racist to say this this is this is what we

07:29:13.460 do and we own it and we have shared and we've shared too much and we've shared too often and we

07:29:20.500 shared without expectation uh except for that they would appreciate it except that they would uh

07:29:28.740 assimilate to it except that they would care for it but they don't know how to do that right they

07:29:33.620 don't even know how to change the battery in their smoke alarm so you can't expect much from these people

07:29:42.340 and and uh it's it's not racist to uh to notice patterns i mean oprah winfrey's uh smoke alarm chirps

07:29:52.900 this is this is just a thing um yeah it's gold mask go ahead what's up bros hope you all are well

07:30:02.500 good uh good conversation um radio i think radio is hit on something that's very important to realize

07:30:09.620 or something that occurred to me watching the uh coverage of rttl it definitely seems like this

07:30:18.020 was gamed out and uh intentionally the the the the response to the media coverage to the attention that

07:30:29.140 started with this reddit thing that was going on has been to lean into it has been to take advantage of

07:30:35.380 the signal boost and to build mind share momentum and it's absolutely it's so phenomenal to see that

07:30:44.980 because it has always been for years it has been scramble you know cya me your culpa i'm not racist

07:30:55.060 we're not racist blah blah blah but they clearly had this messaging crafted beforehand ready to go

07:31:03.780 they caught that wave and they're surfing it right now and sears kudos extremely well done

07:31:12.340 i got a little bit of a break before i go back uh back to the uh slave pit here so i'm gonna stick

07:31:18.980 around but i i think that's uh it's really cool so kudos to all those guys and i'm very impressed

07:31:24.420 it's excellent and it's good to see you brothers and sisters yeah likewise missed you uh today at the

07:31:30.340 white power lunch hour because uh the boers took over so you know yeah thanks for jumping in 0.98

07:31:36.980 absolutely man yeah it's

07:31:43.700 what they're doing is is very good it's very excellent it's it's two in a row and they've both

07:31:49.460 proven to be uh rather um profitable right to to stand and say yeah uh i don't care right shiloh hendrick

07:32:00.980 shiloh hendricks uh and and uh arval here uh taking that strategy and um and receiving love look

07:32:11.780 we know um austin austin metcalf's dad jeff uh you know he bent the knee he went that route we still

07:32:23.780 gave for austin metcalf right that's that no no small amount over five almost six hundred thousand

07:32:30.980 dollars um that was a shift right and we were giving for austin you know we we you know said he's our son

07:32:39.860 now um and we we took ownership of that and then you know then shiloh hendricks came along and she 1.00

07:32:48.100 came along just at the right time just on the tail end of that austin metcalf and now our ball is coming

07:32:54.180 on and and look you know there's there's different reasons people are going to give and different

07:32:59.620 things that people are going to give for but um and let's check how our balls doing but our balls 1.00

07:33:06.260 not uh he's he's getting um he's getting good funding from this this is this is not uh a small

07:33:17.940 thing i mean it's one person donated 35 000 to their legal fund uh right now um his uh his uh money

07:33:29.220 raised on help arval grow rttl is at eighty thousand dollars um this this has put arval into the

07:33:37.540 position to face this entire project full time without having to work a second job right and balance

07:33:46.740 these things you know this is given fuel to that fire and um and this is no small feat eighty thousand

07:33:54.580 dollars almost on that and then thirty five that's over a hundred thousand dollars raised

07:33:59.060 in what a few weeks um over him um you know standing on it and the other part of this too it's not just

07:34:09.300 the money it's it's the moral support from us from others and as opposed to you you know bending the

07:34:18.420 knee and taking crumbs and then getting chastised for your weakness right and chastised for being a 0.95

07:34:26.340 fool for being chastised for not knowing what time it is and and uh and we chastise jeff metcalf 0.99

07:34:34.900 because jet metcalf jeff metcalf is a fool and and he he he failed his son and and that's shame shame 0.99

07:34:44.420 upon him and shame upon his name so like you know this is this is a part of it too we're we're standing 0.99

07:34:52.740 strong with our with stiff necks and straight backs with our with our people that's what we're doing

07:35:00.660 now and and we you know the the voices all across you know when when uh you're hearing this on the

07:35:08.660 internet and where they attempt to manufacture consent and control the narrative and we're saying

07:35:17.140 no there's nothing wrong with what he's doing what he's doing is uh extremely based um and we support

07:35:23.780 it and we're going to give more and you have people giving more they're like i've given i've given some

07:35:29.300 i'm gonna give some more so uh it it certainly is uh is encouraging go ahead school there's there's like

07:35:37.060 an aesthetic sense to this too man it's great it's wild because the uh austin metcalf total chad young

07:35:45.140 man silo hendrix pretty skinny blonde mom arval total chad like it's it's good compare this this stuff to

07:35:56.020 that the the mass signal boost on pine sap over here who's some like weird doe face looking and

07:36:03.380 basically i mean i would i would make fun of him a lot more but i'm not gonna but he's like it's it's

07:36:09.220 like the aesthetic sense too is like i have to hand it to the rttl guys it's like you see them walking

07:36:15.140 around the properties they're in shape they're working they're doing this stuff and it's life

07:36:20.420 affirming and you look at like the other kind of what we've been relying over much on which does have

07:36:26.660 a place and that would be uh you know the the podcast or the propaganda creation and stuff

07:36:32.660 like that which does have its place but it's it's it's uh kind of like a passive activity you're

07:36:37.460 sitting in front of a camera maybe like talking doing some you know showing clips something like

07:36:43.140 that it's cool but the uh the absolute aesthetic sense of like normal good white folks is really like

07:36:53.060 they're slamming it out of the park like arval and his guys are slamming it out of the park right now

07:36:57.140 and uh i'm so happy to see it and it's at this point another reason for the signal boost a potential

07:37:02.420 reason i think is that the there there's a leapfrog over this if they went from uh obscurity to general

07:37:12.500 awareness and then there was um let's just say some backlash from the enemy you know it would

07:37:20.100 have been easy to gloss it over sweep it under the rug with the signal boost you have millions of

07:37:26.580 our people across the globe who are now looking at rttl and they're saying this is excellent and

07:37:32.340 this is wonderful and they've been exposed to what they're doing and they are looking at arval and

07:37:37.540 talking with arval here online so if the state tries any of their dirty little tricks or dirty big

07:37:45.140 tricks if they try any of their dirty big tricks they are going to have millions of men furious to

07:37:52.340 the point where it would be a very dire situation for them and i think that's excellent and i would

07:37:58.740 just say and then let's get to these hands i know marco and phil get we'll get him in here in a second

07:38:03.140 is that you know arval has risen to the occasion so you know i think that he wasn't extremely well

07:38:09.460 known outside of say our circles and our information diet and the you know the kind of the nationalist

07:38:15.860 ecosystem he's gone mainstream now and i think there's some i think skull mask is on to something

07:38:22.420 there's a level of sort of protection amongst the herd is that the response has been really

07:38:28.260 overwhelmingly positive from obviously from our side but um you know kind of leaning into the

07:38:34.020 controversy is is really the right move and he takes you know big media onto the property um he's

07:38:41.300 in the he's in the comments responding to naysayers and people with questions like legitimate questions

07:38:47.860 like some of these guys are responding with a very thoughtful commentary on rttl and on arval and

07:38:54.820 he gets in there and he has a thoughtful uh comparable discussion with them so i think i've been

07:39:01.060 kind of pleasantly impressed with uh the way that he's handled himself and uh you know typical white 1.00

07:39:07.460 man behavior but like you know he doesn't get overly emotional um ever so yeah i think i think he's

07:39:14.340 really risen the occasion and uh i'm i'm here for it it's it's it's good to see you know the the white 0.72

07:39:21.060 man win and um i think that they're gonna be pretty well insulated from i i mean i don't i i think they're

07:39:28.180 going to be you know as long as it's really the state i mean it's really state and federal those

07:39:31.620 are the two main uh oppositional forces that could potentially put a dent in progress in what they're

07:39:37.620 doing uh but when you do this this this is this speaks to proper planning and execution and having

07:39:44.260 the proper liability shields and legal frameworks and knowing your state and federal laws and doing

07:39:51.620 things by the book and then you're you're not easily uh shut down and i i can't stress enough on the

07:39:58.100 hypocrisy piece piece is that you have these uh formal communities whether it's these gaber hoods 0.56

07:40:05.300 whether it's little china little italy um these exist all over the place with did you call them gaber 0.98

07:40:12.100 hoods yeah man the gaber hoods yeah i mean like a literal dens of faggotry um so it's like if that's 1.00

07:40:19.140 acceptable this is this is uh this is this is not like an obscure abstract sort of comparison it's 0.98

07:40:26.900 a direct one-to-one comparison if those things are okay if you know jewish occupied brooklyn is okay

07:40:34.660 and these intentional jewish communities are okay why wouldn't a white european ancestry a european

07:40:42.580 ancestry focused community be it's the exact same thing so i i think the hypocrisy is just going to

07:40:49.380 be insurmountable you just you can't understate that you can't get past that that that's that's

07:40:54.580 the trump card of that's that's what's going to i think tie a lot of these potential legal challenges

07:41:00.500 into knots because that's going to be very easy to defend in court be like if if what we're doing is

07:41:07.060 not okay here's a list of 25 directly applicable immediately comparable 100 one-to-one comparison

07:41:15.060 things that are that uh subsets and subgroups that are advocacy groups and intentional communities

07:41:21.380 and organizations that are doing the exact same thing so therefore you would have to conclude if

07:41:26.980 justin if justice within the judicial system is indeed blind there is no other conclusion that can

07:41:32.500 be drawn that those are not okay there's there's no other conclusion that can be drawn it's

07:41:36.340 simply impossible and and that's why um you know there's not a lot of strong opposition and

07:41:42.420 actually it's just criticism around the edges and it's just sniping and snarky uh bad faith passive

07:41:48.820 aggressive commentary uh because it's really what they're doing is bulletproof and it's legal and

07:41:53.780 it's lawful and it's awesome you know hail those guys and it's moral and it's ethical and it's it's

07:41:59.380 winning on a lot of fronts this is good um yeah so uh marco you had your hand up it went down

07:42:04.820 i just wanted to see if you wanted to get in there no i i had a uh a white power grand slam

07:42:11.940 but um you know that was three or four speakers ago so i'm kind of out of context now so i'll just

07:42:18.020 stand well we like that you have your powder dried there and uh and you're ready for that we'll we'll

07:42:22.740 come back around to that i look forward to uh to to a marco white power grand slam here i think we're

07:42:28.340 all pretty excited to to hear um yeah another one of those if we can all right let's get that phil

07:42:34.580 harvey uh phil welcome hello welcome welcome white power by the way um just gotta i just got a uh

07:42:43.700 weird question and i have been noticing uh certain things have been surfacing around the internet as

07:42:49.460 far as far as religion if that's okay we if i can question that you can question religion all you

07:42:56.100 want but here on white excellence radio and 1488 radio uh we feel like uh religion has uh really um a weak

07:43:06.900 uh position in our collective victory uh in and uh we don't we don't care really about it radio what do

07:43:16.420 you think do we care anything about religion i think i'm somewhat curious as to what his takes

07:43:23.060 going to be yeah i mean we're not going to want to have an over overly theological discussion here and

07:43:26.900 go down the religion the religion rabbit hole uh you know there there's the space i can point you to

07:43:31.460 cq radio it's exclusively it's all religion all the time and uh that that's a good place to get your

07:43:37.620 religion fixed i think if we can kind of keep it surface level practical applicable and directly

07:43:42.740 uh yeah if you have a question that can help us point you in the right direction i think we'd be

07:43:48.180 happy to do that if that's kind of where we're landing go ahead from what you said it's actually a

07:43:53.220 perfect one um so i've been noticing i guess there was like an episode on south park where they're

07:44:00.020 reintroducing religion into schools and i want your question uh i want your intake on that do you believe

07:44:07.940 that religion should belong into the public school systems knowing that the church never pays taxes

07:44:14.660 and the state should just have more just have control on the public school systems i got an answer for

07:44:21.140 that so i i grew up christian um and i didn't really like a lot of the folks i grew up with in the

07:44:29.220 churches felt like they were uh either queer weak or uh hypocritical and and uh it was kind of a 0.50

07:44:38.180 disgusting environment what uh shaped my somewhat shaped my worldview so i i grew up not liking the

07:44:45.460 evangelizing uh in schools that i saw uh and then 2020 happened and um they and what was exposed as

07:44:56.340 going on in our schools i realized well they have religion in there already um and the form of woke uh

07:45:06.500 sodomy and uh all that goes along with that so i kind of like don't care uh personally at this point

07:45:14.260 whether it's one religion or the other um but what i would like is i would like the ability to uh to

07:45:23.460 take the money that is for the schools for my child and take it where i want to go uh if if they're going

07:45:31.780 to give in in california our kids get it's about twenty thousand it's a little more than twenty thousand

07:45:38.340 dollars per year per kid and i would like to take that money and put it toward a school of my choice

07:45:46.500 instead of them saying either you go to our public school garbage system um because i could care less

07:45:55.220 really if there's religion in there or not um yeah that's my take i mean that's just well here's the

07:46:03.460 thing that we um i've been having a little debate trouble with because they felt like i said that we

07:46:10.180 shouldn't bring it because it just protects everybody else's interests of religion choices

07:46:16.260 regardless of the way we view it um and that's why the private school system is being held is to

07:46:22.260 literally protect their interests and it's not like eliminating nobody's freedom it's it's literally

07:46:29.700 just bouncing out so like because you're if you were in a room full of like different religion and um

07:46:37.140 beliefs well you know that would just be a muddy situation when you think about it i guess in a

07:46:44.740 way well yeah you can't you you can't you know churches themselves can't agree much on religion even

07:46:53.540 within churches and denominations um this is a historical fact among pretty much all the religions so it would

07:47:03.780 take away from the actual education uh if there was religion in schools uh but you know would you

07:47:12.500 agree there phil the bigger issue is that there's a non-white in the school like there's a an african 1.00

07:47:20.180 kid or a mexican kid would would you agree that's that's a worse problem um i guess in context uh it could 0.99

07:47:30.500 get segregated a little more to where you know if if sounds like we we lost you there phil but i'll

07:47:42.100 just i'll just finish on this i think you know just maybe we can move on from it um unless uh some of

07:47:48.900 our other speakers want to you know take a swipe at this too but if if my kid is at a school with a

07:47:55.380 non-white uh you know i i don't think that he's getting the proper education anyway uh just period

07:48:02.820 and so that's that would be my first desire to fix that is to do some segregation uh before trying to

07:48:10.420 fix anything else academically or spiritually within the schools i'd have to get to uh a place of

07:48:17.060 segregation are you back with us i think phil had to drop here uh arian or marco if you want to you

07:48:27.460 want to dive in on that topic it's not a huge topic but you know if you have a position on religion

07:48:33.140 in schools go ahead uh you know not as much as uh religion as um you know uh so the mother of my

07:48:42.580 sons my wife she's a good old white alabama girl and uh here in florida what we experience every time 1.00

07:48:51.940 and you'll be proudly met though so i'm not using any profanity you know what happens every time is

07:48:57.540 that uh they bring these spooks in uh or they bring these uh browns in and they go well we're not gonna 0.99

07:49:05.620 so we'll they'll ask them are you are you practicing english in your household and they'll say no

07:49:10.580 right and so these are the kids that are always sitting at the principals in front of the principal's

07:49:17.300 office they're always sitting there they're occupying all the resources you know the the white children 1.00

07:49:24.820 do not get you know what they need from these administrative resources because of these other

07:49:32.100 people so i'm just telling you i we know it to be a fact and uh even in florida where ron desantis is

07:49:40.260 pretty much got stuff rolling man so uh i just wanted to share that thank you

07:49:48.260 yeah thanks marco yeah it it deludes the entire system and and uh it's bloated bureaucratic 0.92

07:49:55.220 administrative and the children are getting the shit into the stick so it's it's uh it's a it's a 0.91

07:50:01.780 it's a topic all its own without introducing uh religion into it but arian if you want to jump 0.99

07:50:08.420 back on the other topic uh regarding rttl or what you got go ahead yeah how's it going guys white power

07:50:16.420 i was just gonna bring up uh i wanted to actually run a space sometime this weekend myself i was planning

07:50:22.900 on reading on heroes hero worship and the heroic in history by thomas carlisle if anybody wanted to

07:50:29.300 join me i don't know when that's going to be but i wanted to mention that and then on top of this

07:50:35.460 i watched this episode of south park and it is pretty revealing the real subject matter has to do with

07:50:43.700 trump um the the religion in schools is just kind of one part of it the real subject matter of that

07:50:50.340 episode is how we've let this despot of a child molester billionaire take the hearts and minds of 0.97

07:50:57.860 the average american today and it is silly and regardless of what people say south park is 0.94

07:51:05.140 right on the money they they know exactly what the zeitgeist is these dudes are brilliant they're

07:51:10.580 brilliant comedians they're brilliant writers they have they've had their whole structure for that

07:51:15.700 show down for 20 years at this point they know exactly what they're doing and the whole thing 0.99

07:51:21.540 that they're saying is how the you guys can let this disgusting sexually despicable weirdo take your 0.99

07:51:32.420 hearts and minds with false promises how how did you let this happen and that's and and in reality the the 0.97

07:51:40.020 the problem that you see is really in cartman cartman is faced with this identity crisis he doesn't

07:51:45.380 know what to do anymore and uh that's kind of really the the main point is how did we let this 0.98

07:51:51.220 fucking trump come along and convince our average everyday white americans that he was the way the 0.99

07:51:57.060 light and the the word uh the obviously we don't need christianity or any other religion in our schools 0.99

07:52:04.340 we need our kids to learn how to fucking build things invent things work hard be good to each other 0.99

07:52:11.140 think about the future honor their ancestors that's the shit we need to worry about it 1.00

07:52:16.740 it doesn't matter if you're a christian a pagan a fucking muslim we none of that has anything to 1.00

07:52:21.300 do with the schools our schools are to educate our children on how to educate their children and 0.99

07:52:26.020 everything other than that is all just nonsense uh i i really appreciate you guys letting me have the

07:52:30.420 time to speak thank you yeah agreed arian it makes you wonder some head-scratching uh things and and

07:52:46.900 what i what you brought to mind for me uh is that a lot of these maga people are looking for a racial 0.99

07:52:54.980 kumbaya too right they're they're looking for like yeah we want to get rid of these mexicans we want to 1.00

07:53:00.900 get rid of these um illegals but they're really looking for a um a racial kumbaya like yeah but the 1.00

07:53:11.620 rest of us because we wave the flag or we have quote unquote american values etc uh we can all just keep

07:53:19.220 going along the way it was let's go back to the 1990s and uh try to reset from there or something

07:53:25.780 like that which you know is it misses uh the bigger point there holy diver oh sorry academic agent calls

07:53:33.780 that french print fresh prince america he actually refers to that 90s america is like a a thing that the

07:53:40.500 republicans are trying to get back to so that's funny you said that yeah it is it's fresh prince america

07:53:45.140 i've been um you know a little bit vocal about you know my my perception now looking back at how we

07:53:51.780 got here 90s really was like uh this this uh peak living really uh it was a lot of southern california

07:54:03.860 music a lot of uh you know utopian ideals like uh and you introduced uh death row records snoop dog

07:54:15.060 uh ice cube there was a lot of the uh gangster rap it uh glamorized it it made it kind of and

07:54:24.020 and when you know it was all like that was all homosexual too there's a lot of homosexuality going 0.57

07:54:30.260 on in there but that's the side of the point um just just to get back to his question i think um

07:54:36.420 that's that's scream bros question phil or whatever yeah this is a simple matter of church and state i i think

07:54:42.900 it's you know the public schools are public institutions and i don't i think south park

07:54:49.460 has an agenda they are leftist libertarian types like they're left of center uh trey parker is like

07:54:57.780 a band fag and matt stone's a jew so are they brilliant you know guys they're also anti-religion 0.96

07:55:05.700 it's worth noting this is not in my opinion this is objective analysis if you know anything about those guys 0.93

07:55:10.500 um they had a hugely successful broadway musical called the book of mormon which just made fun of

07:55:16.900 mormons say what you've been about mormonism it's the most ethnically homogenous you know religions that 0.91

07:55:23.300 the united states has you know apparently i think it's a lot of people don't realize that mormons are

07:55:28.980 like pretty you know they're they're very insular and they're almost amish-esque in the fact that

07:55:35.940 they're extremely white so i wouldn't maybe i wouldn't over play that i mean actually i wouldn't

07:55:42.660 under i wouldn't downplay that the fact that they don't have an agenda they're they're always gonna

07:55:47.860 uh criticize conservatism and they're always gonna take and trey parker was mormon yeah so so they're

07:55:54.580 obviously so they're gonna gatekeep that a bit i think it's pretty rudimentary i think that they do

07:56:00.100 really highbrow kind of satire but it's still juvenile i mean like if you're still on if i'm

07:56:05.380 just completely honest about it if you're still kind of getting mind blown by like the plot twists

07:56:10.660 and the satire and the sarcasm of south park past 20 you know you're probably like a 90 to 100 iq guy

07:56:18.900 like like you like i'm just being honest like you are not a 150 160 guy like under any circumstances

07:56:25.780 like you're just not so it's it's one of these things where i think you know if you don't grow out

07:56:30.580 of that um just hyper formulaic satirical cartoon stuff um i i think um you know you should probably

07:56:40.100 read you know some like philosophy or something because uh these guys are not philosophers they're

07:56:45.300 they're they're culture critics and they have an agenda and they work for a jewish media conglomerate

07:56:52.180 and they're edgy but i mean they're selectively edgy yeah you know they're green-lighted from the

07:56:58.420 establishment i mean there's no way to get around that yeah and they'll only get so edgy on race and

07:57:02.980 religion and culture and society and dunking on donald trump right now is extremely easy and and trumpism

07:57:08.740 is just a bridge to nationalism so trump trump was never the solution he just sort of lit the fire of

07:57:16.020 uh of a base that was already there so the i think ultimately trump whether you like it or not

07:57:22.260 did nationalism a tremendous service because he showed he he trumpism is a death nail in conservatism 0.94

07:57:29.620 so this is this is you know write this fucking down boys trump in the end will have done us a tremendous 0.99

07:57:34.980 service and done us a tremendous favor if for no other reason it's the end of the line of conservatism 0.99

07:57:42.340 of multiracial conservatism forced integration conservatism uh so that's that's what that's

07:57:48.820 what it's going to be i mean like the the floodgates are open i mean he was the first that trumpism will

07:57:54.260 ever be is you know populism which is like the the one of the gayest things ever so it's really at the 0.73

07:58:02.500 end of the day trump was the final sequential order of really proving to any you know sort of sub-60

07:58:11.540 american you know white male that conservatism is dead and and they're trying to resurrect

07:58:17.540 conservatism like turning point usa uh you know all of these kosher conservative media outlets they're

07:58:24.100 trying to catch up it's very obvious they're playing catch up and they're trying to gatekeep

07:58:30.180 and they're trying to ideologically and narrative control the arguments of no way conservatism can still

07:58:35.220 solve for this no way the cat's out of the bag and i don't think that would have happened without

07:58:40.260 the perceived trump revolution in 1516 which fizzled out so fast and it was proven very quickly that

07:58:48.020 establishment republican party politics has no answers to our modern solutions well i wonder what

07:58:54.900 that does for the conservative christian paradigm as well because those have been attached at the hip

07:59:02.260 for a long time and i wonder this this will be a fragmentation as opposed to simply just an

07:59:10.740 abandonment of all things conservative right there's going to be a fragmentation here and it's

07:59:16.420 interesting um you know on the religious side how that will go i did want to make a note because i i i

07:59:23.620 do uh ask and and uh encourage our white brothers uh on the christian side to uh take stock of their

07:59:33.540 church and you brought up mormonism and uh there there was brought to my attention there's a a church

07:59:39.700 in missouri of all places called uh church of israel um it's it's a christian identity church right

07:59:48.100 um but it's good to see an establishment i'm not going to throw shade at this group uh they're at

07:59:54.740 least exclusionary uh you know on principles it's an offshoot of the latter-day saints that's why i bring

08:00:02.740 it up to you know to your mormon point this this is still alive um and it's good to see i give them

08:00:10.580 a thumbs up for a place to start here because at least it's racial right and then take it from there but

08:00:18.020 at least it's holding on to the racial tenets that uh mormonism started with it's ci it's not our you

08:00:24.900 know it's not the greatest thing i don't think uh in terms of what they truly believe about europeans

08:00:30.740 but at least they're uh they're exclusionary so wanted to bring that up church of israel.org

08:00:37.300 i think is their uh website but uh yeah did you want to uh get anything else on that radio or you

08:00:44.980 want to go to hand we can get these hands pass around yeah mark mark uh marco and then diver let's

08:00:50.500 go i think mr uh diver was before me sir let's go uh diver go ahead oh yeah i was going back to like

08:00:58.020 uh thanks a lot marco back to what you were talking about bringing religion back to school i say no i'm a

08:01:03.940 christian but like i just raised two daughters i got three daughters my last one's in high school right now

08:01:09.460 what they really need to do with our educational system what they really need to do with our high

08:01:15.460 schools is teach these young teenagers life skills teach them how to balance a checkbook teach them how

08:01:22.340 to grocery shop teach them how to you know get money and balance i mean just when they get out my

08:01:27.620 daughters got out they had no idea i had to teach them i have to teach them these things basic life

08:01:32.740 skills like how to uh just do common things like call up and get car insurance call up and start a

08:01:39.780 bank account uh go find a job put in applications you know the high high school when they get into 0.65

08:01:45.540 like junior sophomore senior they don't do shit they go in they do their time they get out the 0.93

08:01:50.980 teachers quit teaching and you know i look at other you know you know societies i look at like the 0.99

08:01:56.820 amish i look at other people that you know they go to an eighth grade level and then they put their

08:02:00.580 children to work they teach the girls how to cook clean take care and they teach the boys how to hunt 0.89

08:02:06.260 fish work take care of a farm i mean i i don't know i just i look at like there's a lot more to

08:02:12.260 our educational system that's messed up by teaching these kids just basic life skills versus anywhere

08:02:18.180 near bringing religion back i mean that that that's that's not you know because then all they're going

08:02:21.940 to do with religion if they bring it back is just jew it up and make it about the jews so i mean

08:02:26.740 i'm a christian and i say keep it out that's that's i mean that was a few minutes ago on that

08:02:30.740 but that's where i wanted to talk yeah no yeah thanks for going back there yeah i'm happy to hear

08:02:35.620 from others on that because i think that's an important point if you if you look at the discussions

08:02:40.100 of of religion online i i don't think of anything that could be more confusing or distracting in a in a

08:02:49.540 school environment than having that thrown in there while they're trying to learn you know i i like the

08:02:56.100 basics you know uh reading writing arithmetic like use some science and go yeah also bring back the

08:03:02.660 bellamy salute so yeah religion's the last thing that public schools need that's not the solution 0.93

08:03:08.180 to really anything yeah organized religion within public schools there's so many other

08:03:13.220 bigger priorities i mean that that entire the 14 words right in the bellamy salute give me those things

08:03:19.380 and then you know segregation really if we're just we get down to brass tacks about it is the most

08:03:26.500 important thing one could do is is segregation is get to back to a pre-segregationist uh public school

08:03:33.540 system so there's nothing more important than that um and having kind of freedom of association within a

08:03:39.140 public school system nothing is even remotely close to that so i i'm kind of indifferent to it i don't see

08:03:44.580 the value add and it's not really a problem and all it is is a controversial lightning rock topic it

08:03:49.940 just gives something for these various power factions to complain about and kvetch about 0.73

08:03:55.540 um but it's it's i don't see it as really being um necessary in public schools right now there's

08:04:00.820 way bigger things that public schools need to deal with

08:04:03.620 you know i probably graduated high school relatively recently as compared to the most

08:04:18.020 of you guys and i would agree with diver once you hit sophomore year i really believe that the

08:04:26.660 children should be asked they they are they're given these tests to see you know what they're good

08:04:33.300 at uh and and they're but the schooling isn't affected by that i really do believe that in

08:04:40.260 sophomore year children should be moved into some sort of a trade or you know if you're smart enough 1.00

08:04:46.900 to go to college then get your ass to college get out of here and the rest of you dumb fucks you're 1.00

08:04:50.980 gonna sit here and learn how to fucking nail boards together but uh and i'm one of those dumb 1.00

08:04:56.100 fucks that nails boards together so nobody feel bad about that i uh i've i've felt that way for a long 0.99

08:05:01.540 time i really did believe that my last two years in high school were a waste of my time 0.96

08:05:06.500 and i fear that for my child and if your children this is no i'm gonna yeah i just don't know man

08:05:16.660 i'll leave it there

08:05:19.780 no i i i feel you i've got a 10 and 12 year old and we're looking at the next you know substantial

08:05:24.820 years of their lives and and sending them through the meat grinder of the uh what we call the education

08:05:31.700 system is is not uh you know not mandatory you know we're looking at this from a uh a one-on-one

08:05:42.580 individual basis on what's good for the kid uh and pretending that you know they have to go through

08:05:47.700 that and go to college um it it doesn't make sense anymore especially with the tools and the abilities

08:05:54.100 that we have in uh in allowing kids to uh to hone their skills what they're naturally good at i have

08:06:01.860 two kids that are very different in uh their skill sets very different in their interests and being able

08:06:07.940 to utilize that to springboard them into something that will get them ahead in life uh and move them

08:06:14.580 toward you know uniting passion with uh with uh their ability to perform is kind of you know

08:06:22.420 those are the things that i'm thinking about there is a schooling system isn't there that's kind of

08:06:26.820 based on this and it was invented by a jewish man so a lot of people have a stigma about it but there is

08:06:31.620 a schooling system that's a lot like what we're talking about i i can't remember the name of it but

08:06:36.660 yeah let's uh let's get to tungsten um holy diver and think go ahead tungsten

08:06:47.300 so yeah with regards to the scholastic system the one thing that i haven't heard and i'm sure you

08:06:52.740 guys would concur is that we've gotten away with teaching civics so here's where i'm going with this

08:06:59.300 is from the junior and senior year on the the individual should be taught the systems that

08:07:07.860 are operating at our governmental level so that way when they emerge as an adult they are well

08:07:15.700 adjusted and understand the expectations the laws and the requirements so they're not 0.98

08:07:22.180 bumbling idiots when they when they emerging and don't know how to navigate this is a fundamental 0.65

08:07:28.100 issue i know that it's since i got out of high school it's really fallen away um to date you 0.99

08:07:36.180 guys can guess at how old i am but it was taught in my day though it was nominal i had to um bolster

08:07:42.740 my understanding of that and and i continue to that doing that to this day but i think that's the one

08:07:47.540 of the number one things that should be taught in school so that way our citizenry are equipped

08:07:52.500 for being adults and contributing members of society

08:07:58.100 yeah diver yeah it's like i mean i remember when i was in high school it was a long time ago

08:08:07.940 but i see my kids you know going through it right now i see them they're bored it's like they're getting

08:08:13.300 they're getting no challenges they they had they turned to have to turn to social medias and mtv well

08:08:18.740 it's not mtv anymore that's what in my generation but they they go to these different avenues and different

08:08:23.300 ways to be influenced because they're not getting the information they need at school it's like i

08:08:27.380 tell my daughter watch this documentary watch that you know and she watched when she's like i got way

08:08:32.260 more out of that than i anything i learned at school and i was like exactly i was like sometimes

08:08:36.340 i tell her if she wants to know things she's gonna have to do her own research and i don't have an own

08:08:41.300 you know a certain topic or something so i try to encourage my daughters to do that but you know that

08:08:46.580 she tells me that you know then when she goes to school i'm like what'd you learn today every day

08:08:50.820 she comes in what'd you learn today she's like why do you ask me that i said because i'm curious

08:08:54.820 of what she learned she says nothing like i don't remember i don't you know and if it's she's going

08:09:00.340 through the routine of getting up going to school going through everything and not learning nothing

08:09:04.020 not retaining nothing what are these schools really teaching our kids you know

08:09:07.300 still love the jew yeah yeah it's all getting them prepared for that big history lesson on 1.00

08:09:18.500 schindler's list it's all the preparation for the big rug pull it's a rug pull i think go ahead

08:09:29.140 so um i was just wondering if uh you are all familiar with the quadrivium and the trivium

08:09:36.980 and if you are how you feel about it i was kind of hoping i'd see skulls and of course some of our

08:09:41.780 more esoteric boys but uh basically it was a curriculum from the renaissance that um a lot of

08:09:51.460 homeschoolers today will use i actually bought them several many years ago now when my nieces and

08:10:00.420 nephews were young and my sister was uh considering homeschooling um it has pretty well integrated like

08:10:10.580 math music and astronomy are all integrated with one another in almost a pythagorean

08:10:16.100 kind of way and then it then the quad uh the trivium is um logic rhetoric and grammar

08:10:26.180 anyway i'll you gotta answer me i i've heard of that um i'm not familiar with intimately familiar

08:10:31.540 with that but i i have heard of it um like in the abstract if you got any information on that

08:10:37.860 throat throw that up because that sounds interesting all right all right i mean it'd be easy to for

08:10:43.220 anybody to find well i'll just i'll give some i'll give some personal on that uh as far as the trivium

08:10:51.780 goes uh my boys go to a school that focuses on that exact uh a lot or um grammar logic and rhetoric in

08:11:01.780 that order is um the way that they work it and um and what's so i i went to uh a uh i was homeschooled

08:11:13.380 then went to a christian school then went to public school for high school and so i've got a uh you know

08:11:19.540 a diverse background in all of you know what is education i guess but um this is you know this is

08:11:27.540 fairly new to me the the grammar logic and rhetoric um it's it's it's phenomenal uh because it teaches

08:11:37.620 the kids about um uh the the persuasion right um arguing from the pathos the ethos and the logos um

08:11:49.780 it's it's a far i i think a far greater system so uh thanks for bringing that up think that's

08:11:56.820 that's what i think uh school is meant to do right it's it's not it's not meant to t it's not the uh

08:12:05.540 the rockefeller school of of uh cashiers and and uh you know assembly line workers right it's it's a

08:12:15.220 it's developing thinkers uh demanding that people understand uh what they're saying why they're saying

08:12:22.740 and how they're using the ideas and concepts uh so uh i was introduced to it the uh uh the natural law

08:12:31.780 institute i went out and visited those guys at one of their conferences and they are they're all about

08:12:37.700 it so that you know and i had a crash course in that uh and personally and i came away just a better

08:12:45.380 person just by familiarizing myself with grammar logic and rhetoric and how the three interplay

08:12:51.460 and it introduced me to to looking at the differences and disambiguating between nation

08:12:57.540 state and country i mean it was as easy as that you know the fact that we're missing that and that's not 0.95

08:13:02.820 in the public school system just tells you it's probably because uh the non-whites can't grasp it 1.00

08:13:08.820 so they have to remove it in order for everybody to be able to learn the the the uh the subject

08:13:15.220 matter which brings us back to segregation right but yeah trivium it definitely a good one and then 0.99

08:13:20.980 you said quad quadrium quadrium uh it's trivium and quadrivium quadrivium is the three yeah the

08:13:30.820 quadrivium i don't remember what the fourth is i just remember mathematics um astronomy and music because

08:13:37.780 i was i was i was very like taken aback by how how well integrated they were with one another in the

08:13:47.700 curriculum uh you know they're basically you're teaching all three at the same time yeah yeah just

08:13:55.700 just the uh just the holistic view of that and how you know those different concepts can work together

08:14:02.900 there there's a bit of that at at the school uh that my kids go to actually that the way that they

08:14:08.820 design their curriculum uh has that at least a um an awareness and acknowledgement of that if not

08:14:18.180 like full-throated integration on the the quadrivium uh aspect of it because we've had that conversation

08:14:25.940 with them uh they're i mean there's schools out there again um you know they they're few and far

08:14:32.500 between uh rusty uh go ahead yeah i was i was um agreeing with some of the stuff for sure that tungsten had

08:14:42.580 said and these the kids needing to know how to navigate the systems of government whether it be

08:14:55.220 at the county clerk's office the city hall etc right and all of that very important something i was never

08:15:03.700 taught and learned over the years slowly and um but wish i had known it and and uh another thing is

08:15:14.900 comprehension it seems i don't know how you quite teach that but many people lack high comprehension it

08:15:24.020 seems and maybe that just comes with iq i'm not sure um i only finished the 10th grade and took my ged

08:15:35.140 and i've done other stuff though i've done college courses and different things on my own and just uh

08:15:40.660 but a lot of self-study and different stuff and have an ability to retain information one of the things

08:15:47.060 i've noticed i have a younger girlfriend uh fiancee and just the other day one of the things i've and

08:15:53.860 and i i've noticed i have to always tell she'll ask me certain i'm like google it have some curiosity

08:16:01.140 have some uh there's no drive to for some of these people it seems and then i have another friend he's a

08:16:09.940 younger friend also he's he's young he's in his 20s and he doesn't know and he's very smart very smart

08:16:18.260 technology holy crap this guy he's a little computer genius this guy like uh can write code and all kinds

08:16:24.260 of knows a lot of stuff about uh computers i i have no clue about but then when it comes to other realms

08:16:32.100 of life knows very little about certain things and it's all it's always curious to me how little some

08:16:40.900 of these the younger and i and i attribute it to like what the hell are these schools teaching and um

08:16:48.500 it is curious to me and uh but i think comprehension and and i'm just yeah navigating systems and actual like

08:17:00.340 real life at a certain point and then i think also another important thing is

08:17:07.140 different really playing into more of like learning the individual and how they learn different

08:17:14.340 individuals learn different ways um i learn a lot through hands-on and i all read and then i also i

08:17:23.220 like he i like it's like a multi-comprehensive uh learning and and i put myself through the paces of

08:17:32.100 uh everything from reading about it to then applying it and and doing it and and hands-on experience

08:17:39.780 whereas other people might learn differently i learn extremely well that way and i can do it on my own

08:17:44.980 and i think playing into that on people's end of end and what they're good at in playing into that

08:17:52.980 right like what they're naturally inclined as these as individuals are would really help and this school 0.91

08:18:01.620 cookie cutter shit it really is just like that you know what was meant that rockefeller like we're 0.94

08:18:08.100 gonna create little factory workers and it's not really working for a lot of these kids i feel like 0.98

08:18:14.180 like and that's that i'm ending it there

08:18:21.780 yeah uh yeah i agree with a lot of that um shoot there was there was one point that you brought up i

08:18:30.020 wanted to uh tap in i'll get back around to it uh arian go ahead

08:18:34.100 well you guys got to me too quick because i was actually still researching what i was looking into but

08:18:49.220 in general i was gonna bring up kind of what rusty was talking about there is a specific school for

08:18:56.260 this i i can't remember the name of it but at at like 10th grade they take the student and they

08:19:03.860 they basically turn them into a trade school and they move them on into a they're not just waking up

08:19:11.860 and doing the average classes that a normal kid would be doing they're focusing on accredited

08:19:18.740 college courses at a high school level and there is a school that already does this and i just i can't

08:19:25.620 find or think of the name of it and that's all i wanted to bring up thank you we have one in our

08:19:30.420 town it's called a vocational school they get there they can graduate from yeah vocational is for trades

08:19:36.980 there's even one that's for for even people that go into stem and stuff it's and it's named after a

08:19:42.980 jewish man that's why people are they're actually usually typically very against it just based on

08:19:48.580 the fact that it was a jewish man who started it but

08:20:08.420 is marco speaking i can't hear him

08:20:12.980 i was not i was trying to keep my microphone muted

08:20:29.060 all right yeah i was just on uh running a message online so uh with that um

08:20:36.980 i'm not sure about that school you're talking about nothing comes to mind to me

08:20:43.300 but there you know there there is different ways of learning uh to rusty's point and knowing that

08:20:49.780 and being able to do that across uh you know the different kids uh that's not what's you know

08:20:56.820 what's happening like they don't the the public school system is and i know this from just inside

08:21:04.500 baseball um they they care about attendance because attendance gets them money

08:21:12.980 that's what they care about uh they don't care about the education of the of the kids

08:21:18.900 um the school system all of the administrators um and this is in and even what would be considered

08:21:27.460 like high quality uh public schools in california they care about attendance and they care about taking

08:21:34.580 credit for high performing students uh to rusty's point like there's high performing students that

08:21:41.220 do well in classroom environments and it's naturally going to uh succeed they're going to excel uh they

08:21:48.580 have the the proper uh environment at home they're smart kids so uh they get you know

08:21:56.740 they get 4.9 uh gpas somehow right um you know it was for it was 4.0 when i was a kid now they're getting

08:22:06.740 4.9 uh and the this school system um loves nothing more than taking credit for those kids and appreciating

08:22:18.660 those kids and and uh and pretending that they're the reason why those kids excelled um and you put

08:22:25.860 that kid in oh i remember what i was going to talk about with rusty's point you put that kid in a in a

08:22:31.380 in a different environment um and they're going to um either way one of the things that i learned

08:22:40.420 from 2020 which really i think put the nail in the coffin for the public school system uh and it's it's

08:22:50.980 pretense that it's that it is anything more than uh glorified daycare uh is that the kids

08:23:00.820 weren't doing more than like 45 to 90 minutes of academic work uh in elementary school you know 0.97

08:23:10.340 that the amount of work they were actually doing in an eight-hour day was was just pathetic and you

08:23:17.380 could see that once people got onto zoom calls right once school became a zoom thing and you actually

08:23:24.180 got to see what was going on you realize there's nothing going on here like they can literally do

08:23:31.140 the 45 to an hour worth of of homework and then go play and build forts um you know build legos

08:23:40.020 and do other things that interest them uh and and accomplish all of that like i said i was a

08:23:47.380 i was a homeschooled kid until eighth grade and it had an impact on my social skills like i didn't know

08:23:56.020 how to navigate the streets as it were right um i was uh thrown into it in the midst of my puberty and

08:24:05.060 told to figure it out and so it was an interesting arc for me but looking back i didn't lose anything

08:24:14.180 from from socialization you know the the the thing i would say i lost the most at was long-term

08:24:23.540 childhood relationships growing up with with kids in the same age not the socialization part but the

08:24:30.100 actual friendship and relationship part is is what i you know missed out on for the most part

08:24:36.980 um and that's easy fix for sort of societies neighborhoods collectives making lifelong

08:24:44.660 relationships between you know kids is actually pretty easy the homework part is pretty easy and

08:24:51.220 the entire education system as it is uh is largely unnecessary within a white environment it's it is 1.00

08:24:59.700 built uh for brownoid communism uh as an institution for my from my opinion um but that's that's what 0.94

08:25:07.940 that's what i noticed rusty you were talking about just uh you know the you know the the youth

08:25:13.860 heal the of it all um and so they're not even doing any homework they're just they're they're just

08:25:20.020 daycare and it's it's pretty nonsense actually so uh rusty get back in there we'll go tungsten uh

08:25:26.020 arian good yeah and uh and then there's the the other factor of just um and this i can personally

08:25:35.140 relate to is children who grow up in dysfunctional homes and it really affects them so that is an

08:25:44.660 issue that is hard to get around and while the social aspect was never a problem and not really

08:25:52.900 and like i had different learning disabilities which is another thing but it wasn't because i lacked uh

08:25:59.780 iq interestingly enough i could sit at a paper and i would not write the paper i could sit there for

08:26:08.420 hours sometimes and maybe get a sentence down but i could do math i could do all this very simple like

08:26:16.500 technical stuff that was very straightforward but when it came to certain things i would shut down

08:26:23.460 and that plays into a lot of stuff so having and this goes to just you know as far as white people and

08:26:32.180 and families and having strong families that aren't like uh during very certain times of a child's life

08:26:43.540 which is any of it really as they're developing mine was right at puberty we'll say when my parents were

08:26:50.660 going through arguments divorce alcoholic households with uh different substances possibly uh which was

08:27:00.420 clear later to me um there's quite a bit of things going on between yelling and uh screaming and not me

08:27:11.140 and just a lot of a lot of stuff so this affects children greatly and the way they function

08:27:19.860 in schools and even their interactions averaging like me myself averaging probably two fights a year

08:27:28.180 from the third grade till every year now all of that affects children

08:27:37.780 greatly and for me i could not talk about these things like for the longest time i would especially

08:27:45.140 i said like this was all bottled up never talked about and i and given counseling and wouldn't talk

08:27:53.940 to even counselors sometimes we would just sit they this was during school hours i had to see sometimes

08:28:00.260 a counselor for an hour a day and we would sit there and i would not do anything like i would they would

08:28:09.700 try to talk to me it would be very superficial my answers would not do it i had to do adhd testing

08:28:18.660 didn't quite um test out for it hit many markers of it but was one short for them of the criteria

08:28:28.100 and also would just refuse to ever take any medication so but all and i would still to this day say i'd never

08:28:35.540 needed the medication so worked out just fine for me and uh my brother was on medication and things have

08:28:44.820 not worked out as great for him as he was a child and it seemed to have stunted his growth i think also

08:28:51.380 the riddle and i don't know what that is about but it it seems to be there he's much smaller than me and

08:28:59.140 my brother uh my half brother my half brother's a bigger guy and uh i'm i'm quite a bit bigger than

08:29:07.860 my uh my my half brother is my the oldest brother my other brother who's the smaller guy is he's an

08:29:16.340 older than me and and he and the other thing was is i think it was also because of the riddle and he

08:29:22.980 wouldn't eat as much and so that this is just uh i know it's a little off topic but i just i think

08:29:29.460 it's important that we have strong family households that that that facilitate a good learning environment

08:29:41.380 which i think touches on what kind of mythos said you know this this because he mentioned how some of

08:29:47.380 these kids will have they they they do well in school because they have all of these things that facilitate

08:29:55.300 them and because they have a strong learning environment and all of this stuff and then there's kids

08:30:01.860 who don't and that is another big factor because i think there's a lot of households like that these days

08:30:08.660 we're going to invoice you for the therapy session rusty thanks for sharing um let's let's keep i'm

08:30:17.780 just kidding i i'm just sorry i i couldn't resist i couldn't resist no no he's on to something it's

08:30:23.220 he's not wrong he's hitting on some important stuff so thanks for sharing there rusty um what

08:30:28.100 you got hands mythos i i'm not sure yeah let's go to richie welcome richie our friend from uh ireland

08:30:34.900 brother go ahead hi guys um good to fucking talk to you it's been been a while i see a good friend 0.84

08:30:43.380 jack uh down in listener section um uh where uh we obviously uh come come from the same cloth even 0.88

08:30:51.940 though we're from different uh sides of the religious divide we still have a common uh thread which is

08:30:59.460 protection of our people uh our white uh heritage and european uh brothers but how dare you richie

08:31:07.620 we're around here we settle the religious dispute first so stay on topic here i'm just kidding

08:31:15.940 i'm just kidding good man good man 14 words brother go ahead oh no no i hear i guess no i get that

08:31:23.060 i'm here that was something else was on my mind i just want to bring it up and i i just want me to

08:31:28.420 say obviously there's a big debate going on at the minute uh about about the table talks and who

08:31:34.820 belongs to who but was was he was he a christian or was he a pagan or was he anti-abrahamic religions

08:31:43.700 and this is a big controversial thing right now um and i think all of these things are determined by

08:31:49.860 biases and people's own positions i would like to hear somebody uh who isn't and i know a lot of you

08:31:57.860 uh you know uh do interviews and stuff that i i i i meant to listen earlier on with carl because

08:32:03.540 carl is a fucking legend and his his knowledge is unsurpassed but it just seems that anyone who's a 0.97

08:32:11.300 christian will refuse to believe that aleph hitler was was uh was anything other than a christian um 0.99

08:32:20.260 anyone who doesn't believe in the abrahamic christian belief system refuses to believe that

08:32:26.500 he was like it just seems to be that everyone's is uh influenced by their own personal belief system

08:32:32.980 which yeah you know if you're talking about religion then i think that is a something which

08:32:37.780 is it's a hot topic at this point in time but anyway i'm going to park that because that wasn't what i

08:32:43.620 uh jumped in for but was just when you mentioned religion that was uh obviously something which is

08:32:48.900 which is uh going on right now and i think keith woods uh was the one that pretty pretty much uh

08:32:55.540 kicked that off and him and justin bart don't see idea which i would love to see a debate between

08:33:01.460 those two but uh keith woods uh he doesn't want to uh involve himself with that which tells more about

08:33:08.500 him than justin because i would more align with justin's side not necessarily on his uh his uh

08:33:15.220 theological position but on his uh political position because keith woods has tried to go into the

08:33:22.900 side that co-opted his political party and that's under litigation it's it's getting to the end of it

08:33:30.820 right now but uh keith woods is on the wrong side of that and uh as that plays out you'll see how that

08:33:37.060 uh how that works itself out and uh against the side that keith woods has taken but uh sorry i

08:33:45.060 wanted to bring uh the point i was trying to make or the reason i put my hand up is um so obviously it's

08:33:52.980 uh the whole trump epstein shamanigans blah blah um i just listened there recently like like uh the very

08:34:02.100 like the number one content creator i think online um he is our guy he is 14 words he's he is he's

08:34:11.540 against you his power he talks about this he's very erudite he's very articulate he's very high

08:34:16.820 iq knowledgeable and entertaining and some kind of funny is devastating like that i don't think anyone

08:34:23.060 would say a bad word about him i don't think anyone could say that devon stack is wrong on this that and

08:34:28.420 the other he goes all over the place and i talked about so many different issues sometimes it's a

08:34:33.300 bit sort of comical whimsical trivial and sometimes it goes deep deep digging into certain issues which

08:34:40.260 is uh which is really important uh and he is our guy 100 um i would refute anyone who disagrees with that

08:34:49.620 but obviously um looking into that over the last couple of weeks that took across an interview with

08:34:55.460 darrell cooper uh that was it was it was great like i i i don't want to downplay it i think it was

08:35:03.300 amazing the fact that it even took place to begin with and obviously you know most people who are on

08:35:09.060 our side of these things have been aware of this for a long time and we know you know most of this you

08:35:14.900 know if you've read you know one nation under blackmail by whitney webb if you've been listening to

08:35:19.460 anything with ryan dawson over the last 10 years you you're aware of this and who's but who's involved

08:35:25.540 what's going on and what's behind us you know um obviously it's an irish guy martin dylan who wrote

08:35:32.980 a book alongside gordon thomas about israel super spy uh which involves gillian maxwell's father robert

08:35:40.420 maxwell so you know and these are things i've obviously been aware of like i'm in my mid 40s so i've been

08:35:46.420 aware of this stuff for a long time i've read these books many years ago and i'm glad to see a lot of

08:35:51.380 people catching up but i'm sure there's a lot of other people on this network who are on the same

08:35:56.500 you know pathway as me or pointing that journey as i am they're not new to this so it's great that we're

08:36:03.220 all kind of seeing this play out in the public sphere but um if anyone hasn't seen this uh recently uh

08:36:12.900 devin stark has just done a new like he's i think it was in wednesday past he's uh so he's done a

08:36:19.620 breakdown of the interview with donald cooper and uh tucker cousin and i would suggest everyone who uh

08:36:29.460 who's interested in learning about the epstein thing uh should should focus on that because what what

08:36:35.860 what devin does which i just listened to recently he really introduces a lot of things you maybe

08:36:44.020 wouldn't ordinarily think about uh and like obviously tucker carson is he's he's a wasp he's old school

08:36:51.540 old money part of the big you know swanson family you know he's he's he's a multi multi-millionaire

08:36:57.620 his father's voice of america caa you're crazy off topic man i'm sorry i can't oh i i'm sorry i i

08:37:05.380 didn't even know why it was all i didn't know what the topic was listen man it's grand i just wanted to

08:37:10.260 introduce you to that aspect of the new conversation if you want to switch gears and go to somebody else

08:37:17.780 then that's okay it's your call what do you want to know what to expect there uh we got to know what

08:37:27.540 to expect there with you richie um you know it's usually a uh a meandering walk through the irish

08:37:35.380 countryside you know i'll say um no no no no listen man if you want to go do if you want me to face my

08:37:42.100 position and my thought then let me do it or if you want to go to something else then obviously no go go

08:37:47.300 go ahead and land it yeah we'll do let's do another 60 seconds go ahead and land that um i enjoy it i

08:37:52.820 enjoy listening go ahead okay that's all i need um uh so so yeah he's uh so uh the uh he goes deep

08:38:02.820 into you know talk across his background into the fact that he was part of that network cia voice of

08:38:08.020 america he's he's part of this controlled opposition gatekeeper network and he is uh the fact that even

08:38:15.300 darl cooper's there and he avoids a donald trump question he avoids he avoids by and large the

08:38:21.620 jewish question unless he can't avoid it by the fact that robert maxwell doesn't miss that agent but

08:38:26.900 he doesn't connect all the dots about bill barr doesn't take thoughts about you know um hexf and all

08:38:32.580 these uh jewish networks he just they somehow uh pretend that these things aren't important um but i would

08:38:40.580 also advise anyone who is really interested in the trump uh epstein network uh to listen to this uh i

08:38:49.380 think this weekend there's going to be an interview with uh with ryan dawson and darl cooper and i think

08:38:56.260 it's going to be a long really deep dive into the whole history background networks of the mega group and uh

08:39:03.460 uh uh uh and epstein and obviously people like uh you know the fucking the the whole the whole network 0.86

08:39:13.140 can entail with um the the house that epstein got in new york and you know the les wexler yeah all

08:39:23.940 these people but uh yeah listen that's what i wanted to say if anyone's interested just uh just keep your eyes

08:39:29.220 open because i think it's gonna happen it's gonna drop this weekend so anyway guys thanks for the mic uh

08:39:33.540 for sorry for uh switching gears and changing directions but uh listen it's always good to talk to you so

08:39:39.540 yeah always always good to hear from you uh uh richie we need it we need to keep in touch

08:39:45.220 thanks for keeping in touch with what's going on over here you know the uh that's seen things

08:39:49.700 it's a global thing there's a lot of attention being that we in america uh are the big big

08:39:55.540 boy on the block militarily politically industrially uh can i just say one one thing as well because

08:40:04.500 this is connected so i've been reading a book there's a book come out there recently and i've

08:40:08.420 been i'm sort of three quarters of the way through it and it's uh so trump this is a book which is it

08:40:13.460 so it was a care home in ireland which was used as a honeypot trap for all these kids were abused

08:40:20.980 sexually abused and raped and um one of them lives in texas right now uh he this was in 1980s

08:40:30.340 late 70s and 80s games richard care k-double-r you could google's name and look onto uh videos and

08:40:37.220 you'll see some of his testimonies he i i've seen photographs of him and he uh he was taking there

08:40:45.540 was photographs of him in venice in italy with uh trump's mentor uh roy care roy cohen sorry roy cohen

08:40:54.180 yeah so roy cohen raped this kid in the early 1980s in venice in italy uh and uh so this isn't like

08:41:04.420 this is a pretty epstein obviously but this these kind of black bale rings have been happening for

08:41:10.020 decades and it only it not only happened in america but it happened in england it happened in ireland

08:41:16.420 and some of these kids and one of them from ireland who now lives in texas richard care look if you're

08:41:22.820 interested look up his name he was raped by not only uh louis mountbatten who was queen's cousin uh

08:41:30.500 morris oldfield who was head of mi5 but he's also trafficked out to uh roy cohen who covered in venice

08:41:38.180 in italy and raped them as well and richie where where is this from a book you're reading you said

08:41:44.500 yes yeah interesting yeah i'll send you links if you want but i would say just type in his name 0.91

08:41:51.460 richard richard care i i dropped uh radio a link uh a few a few months ago um about uh a guy who was

08:42:00.180 doing interviews with him but he hadn't heard of him uh hopperman hopperman report but anyway guys

08:42:05.700 listening it's uh straight talkies thanks for the mic and obviously i'll talk to you too richie

08:42:10.260 yeah yeah thanks man yeah the the network the political blackmail network is is not just america

08:42:18.340 i mean it's it's a it's a worldwide operation and uh like you said a little honeypot here a little

08:42:24.260 honeypot there i mean this is it goes unspoken uh in most of the time um because uh apparently

08:42:33.220 everything's centered around uh the u.s but yeah uh arian go ahead

08:42:40.900 hey how's it going guys i wanted to actually speak to rusty to a point i i really do agree with

08:42:50.260 the educational system being completely i graduated in 2010 so it wasn't that long ago but it was still

08:42:59.780 pretty recently and everything was peachy you know peachy dory or hunky dory it was all great

08:43:06.820 but we saw it everybody then could see that everything started getting a little weird

08:43:12.260 and at the time we all kind of laughed it off my point is what i want to ask i actually want to ask a

08:43:18.900 question i have a man that works with me he is my boss's son he is 35 years old he dropped out in

08:43:29.780 ninth grade i think he might have gotten through ninth grade pretty almost just about ninth grade in

08:43:35.540 the united states but he dropped out and he decided to become a full-time construction worker with his

08:43:43.380 father who run is a general constructor that's a weird way of saying it he he is a general contractor

08:43:52.980 and i would say that he does have a lot to to learn when it comes to the white problem he's in a way he

08:44:03.780 because he worked for his father and he has like a silver spoon somewhere in him he doesn't understand

08:44:10.900 where we're coming from but at the same time he has ended up better off than me most people he does

08:44:18.580 have he owns two homes he he is a white nationalist he just doesn't even know it yet because he hasn't 0.91

08:44:26.900 had to deal with the the problems he's he's just been given everything but he's a racist white man so my

08:44:33.220 question is is it better for us to maybe even take on some type of a neo feudalism with our children uh

08:44:41.940 start businesses and and bring our children into the trade or are we going to allow the zog controlled 1.00

08:44:51.140 system that we have now to raise our children and hope for the best that's my question thanks

08:44:56.180 yeah it's a good and existential question about our future uh you know the the way that they're

08:45:06.740 raised the way that they're schooled is the way that they're going to make bonds and be uh united going

08:45:13.620 forward now i i graduated about a decade high school a decade before you did um all of this missed me

08:45:22.020 uh completely uh completely so when i when i found out um there was sjw's it was already like 2016 i'd

08:45:32.420 never heard of them before uh and then all of a sudden this whole thing just exploded on me i was like

08:45:36.980 what the fuck is happening uh but it it happened because of the education system right it happened 0.94

08:45:44.180 because they groomed these people from a young age through the education system out the education system 0.99

08:45:50.340 back into the education system as educators uh and for in california uh there's you know it's just a

08:45:59.300 communist organization the education system here is a communist organization uh from top to bottom

08:46:05.620 every every print pre pretense of it so um yeah what we're not going to be able to survive a

08:46:14.980 a and and pretend like we're going to re-educate them after they come back from college just hope for

08:46:21.700 the best and then we'll just try to make like i know families torn apart like really just solid uh

08:46:28.740 good-hearted you know republican right conservative because that's you know they they at least thought

08:46:35.940 they had family values uh but they had no idea sending their kids off to arizona state university would turn 0.99

08:46:44.100 them into a woke psychopath right and then they come home like what the fuck is going on um 0.95

08:46:52.340 and so yeah either we fix it um and we and which is to make a parallel i mean there's no i was i was 0.98

08:47:01.620 listening to uh to the boer cast and the one thing that did stick out to me uh from dr mike to to it

08:47:08.740 um is that you don't fix it you just build a new one uh you you just don't fix it uh there's no there's

08:47:20.500 no fixing it and i i take that to heart i think he's right about that um and and i he was talking

08:47:27.380 about political organizations but school districts political organizations all of it like operating like

08:47:35.380 what do they have to offer that the the actual buildings themselves like that's it the teachers

08:47:40.980 the school books um in all of the the miscellaneous stuff can all just be replaced um the buildings are

08:47:51.140 like you know the the only thing of substantive value uh and even those the way that they're they're

08:47:58.180 designed are more like in in many cases they're like mini prisons uh and institutionalized um you

08:48:06.900 know warped now i mean the the era before in the past hundred years maybe go back a hundred years

08:48:17.620 maybe even 70 years 80 years 90 years those schools at least had character right you were you walked into

08:48:26.340 you go to like princeton you go to uh some of these other uh old schools and you you actually have a

08:48:34.340 sense of of greatness right as something to aspire to something to uh embody and and you know and and

08:48:43.540 fill in and become a great and you have it's just it's a totally different environment than what these uh

08:48:52.180 uh these schools are now which is and i've heard i haven't looked deeply into this but i've heard

08:48:58.660 they're designed by the same people who designed the prisons right the architects uh are the same

08:49:03.940 same architects to design both um so there's really not much to salvage right building the new

08:49:09.380 is is where it goes and and one of my favorite quotes is from uh buckminster fuller it is that uh you

08:49:16.900 you never change a thing by fighting the existing reality uh you know hint hint wink wink nod nod to

08:49:24.420 the uh religious folks you never change anything by fighting the existing reality to change a thing

08:49:29.700 build a new model that makes the old model obsolete and that's where we're at i mean we're at we're at

08:49:35.620 the stage of building new um i think across the board so i'm happy to hear other uh other folks uh

08:49:42.100 opinions on that i'd like to say that that's a beautiful sentiment thank you mythos yeah no yeah

08:49:48.260 no problem i mean i have kids i mean i you know this is this is near and dear to my heart is how

08:49:52.740 we're raising this and then my grandkids i put a lot you know i know we all put a lot of thought into

08:49:57.700 this stuff so yeah uh tungsten and it's not hard like i said like this is not hard it's just about 0.91

08:50:03.540 collectivizing you got but we come off they they treat us like we're fucking evil well yeah because they're 0.78

08:50:10.740 commies right because they're commies yeah they're they're they're ardent commies so anything that's 0.93

08:50:15.780 not ardent commie is is actually evil it actually is the essence of evil if that's if that relates

08:50:26.260 yeah could you imagine i mean you homeschool your kids i i could just imagine all the evil things

08:50:30.900 you're teaching them uh while homeschooling their kids i like this this is the attitude

08:50:35.460 they have right it's so crazy it's so cringe too um tungsten go ahead

08:50:40.740 okay so i'll sew some of this together and in that uh yes the public school system is

08:50:50.020 basically meant to program your children to uh a certain agenda um and that agenda is not

08:50:58.180 an agenda in which we hear by and by um want for our children so that's one thing to arian's question

08:51:06.580 i do believe i don't know if you want to call it neo-feudalism but having built businesses that are

08:51:14.660 that sustain intergenerationally and contribute to energy intergenerational wealth not just financial

08:51:22.500 um is important moreover the uh elders should have um an understanding

08:51:31.540 um to administrate through like nepotism of so-called in-group preference so that way

08:51:43.060 our kin our kind are able to um function and sustain families independently as was alluded to by mythos

08:51:54.420 um parallel and not being um fully reliant on systems that we've seen end up coming back to haunt

08:52:03.140 us so if you have your for example you have a business whatever kind of business and you say

08:52:09.300 something you probably people probably heard me say this and you say something that's contract

08:52:12.340 confrontational you're not going to be worried about losing your job i mean we've i've said this

08:52:17.620 before recently with the jubilee case i'm not going to go into it but had and this is what i'd recommend

08:52:23.060 to anybody if you want to become outspoken you should have measures in place so you're not going to

08:52:28.180 have your life turned upside down and i would encourage more across the board assistance to

08:52:34.340 our kind and folk to make sure that that doesn't happen so that's those factors and going forward i think

08:52:42.420 we really need to keep in mind

08:52:44.020 yeah it's it's a good thing to be aware of i agree about the uh the you know planning ahead of time

08:52:57.540 uh putting in contingency plans mitigations things like that when you're going to go in or go out and

08:53:06.260 uh take a stand right no at least at least be playing chess which is to be three moves ahead

08:53:13.860 right if if you're not five moves ahead at least be three moves ahead um on the chess board to know

08:53:20.980 okay this is what's going to happen then this is going to happen then that's going to happen and

08:53:24.900 how am i going to respond to each of those situations the thing that i think i you and you'll

08:53:33.300 probably agree you're sensible a lot of sensible people but the idea of insurance um creates

08:53:42.900 recklessness and even even fraud right having an insurance plan for white people um who uh who put

08:53:52.420 themselves into positions where they they are to be harmed right shiloh hendrix was not an insurance

08:54:02.820 plan she she wasn't even as far as we know she wasn't even in danger of losing a job right she was just 1.00

08:54:10.260 a woman who flipped off uh a foreigner and and said nigger nigger nigger i mean it was it was a complete 0.98

08:54:19.060 meme situation to just throw out the uh um just to draw the sword right but the and and our ball is a 0.68

08:54:34.740 little different too right but having a an insurance plan so when somebody like a pine sap goes out and

08:54:43.060 says i'm a fascist oh now i lost my job it's like we actually do hold white men and this is the

08:54:50.740 difference this is a lot of people complained about shiloh hendrix um getting all this money for what she 1.00

08:54:56.500 did when we have guys who are doing arguably more important work who are largely ignored is is we do we

08:55:05.140 we we ask our men to be more responsible we we don't want insurance plans um for

08:55:13.300 for people who are dressing up like rabbis and going into uh synagogues or whatever what have you

08:55:21.780 and and asking about circumcision like we we actually do have a sense of

08:55:28.660 uh a responsibility and purpose about what we're doing and it makes it harder for some guys i think

08:55:37.460 our ball is doing an exceptional job exploiting his situation and i say exploiting in a good way

08:55:44.260 exploiting his situation uh but you hear people want to you know create these contingency plans for guys

08:55:51.620 it's it's if if it can be gamed it'll be gamed right the system is always designed for some gaming

08:56:01.300 and if it can be gamed it will be gamed and you saw that with the with the guy who helped uh shiloh

08:56:07.460 hendrix the he he called uh his his passenger a nigger uh and he's like oh i lost my uber job 0.99

08:56:16.580 i need money it's like yeah yeah we saw what you did there um but we're not gonna we're not funding

08:56:22.900 that and so there there is um when it when it does happen i think organizations can support guys who are

08:56:32.660 going to go out and do something and go here's what's going to happen this guy's going to go out

08:56:38.020 he's going to make this stir he's going to lose opportunities lose jobs but we have a job for him i

08:56:44.260 think that speaks to what you're talking about we we have a parallel economy where he's not going to

08:56:49.380 lose opportunity and be shit out of luck we don't need to go fund me because we have a built

08:56:56.180 uh network of of a parallel economy that helps mitigate his circumstances right and it's not

08:57:05.140 gamed it's not freebies it's not free money it's not gibbs it's don't worry you can get another job

08:57:12.020 we got plenty of jobs over here right you can still be of service you'll work you didn't become

08:57:17.300 a welfare recipient right we're not we're not asking our our strong men to go out there and and

08:57:24.260 take pro-white action and then become welfare recipients like this is not uh the aryan way 0.99

08:57:30.340 right the area way is building the infrastructure that says yeah you can go out and do whatever the

08:57:34.100 you want if it's if it's something that you show good character and a moral aptitude then we got

08:57:41.060 yeah we got jobs for you that's plenty of jobs for you and you will just move you over here and uh

08:57:46.180 and you and we are gonna be you know right there to have your back so it is something that it's a

08:57:51.700 it's a really good thought experiment to flesh out on how to operate those um those circumstances and 0.98

08:57:59.540 and how to do that in a meaningful way to get you know we want the adl to look like an idiot right i mean 0.90

08:58:05.620 we we want the adl to go out there and try and we want to know three steps ahead what the adl is going 0.97

08:58:11.140 to do put them in a position to fall into our trap and this is this is what we want to do um it just

08:58:17.700 it just takes the uh the certain concerted effort to put it down on paper game it out know the know

08:58:24.660 the contingencies know the uh the uh the way things can roll one way the other which what could happen in

08:58:32.340 in this situation that situation and gain those out so we have always a response that favors us

08:58:38.900 in all of that and and again i'll say our ball is doing just that he probably him and his team

08:58:43.700 probably put a lot of thought into the way this was going to happen and they did it themselves but

08:58:47.860 they're like yeah and while we're while we're famous might as well tell everybody that you can

08:58:52.580 donate to us as well that's not there's nothing wrong with that either so yeah i think what you

08:58:57.540 you want to have anything on that tungsten well i would concur i think there needs to be discretion

08:59:05.860 and responsibility and the way you outline that's important we don't want people to uh spur and be

08:59:11.620 reckless and then it it becomes a liability for the greater movement no doubt um and and yes i would

08:59:18.900 concur i think uh our ball and our ttl are really moving the overton window and this will be

08:59:26.100 a pivotal moment as this goes forward for us to see in particular what the fourth amendment affords

08:59:33.780 for us which i think is something we should we should certainly lean on so to that yeah i think

08:59:39.140 you you've done well to describe the circumstances yeah we need more of that a hundred percent so uh

08:59:46.740 we'll go arian um think and then richie yeah as far as going going against the grain we are we are seen as

08:59:55.460 evil i think that that really needs to be stated we are seen as the evil bad guys we are the the the

09:00:02.580 mean evil nazis and we have to state our facts we have to state our facts we cannot allow browbeating

09:00:13.620 and misinterpretation everything that comes against us in our points we're sitting here in these spaces so

09:00:20.740 that we can learn our talking points everybody has their reason for it but the real reason we're here

09:00:25.780 is so that we can learn everybody else's talking points so that when we come across other white

09:00:30.180 people in the wild we can actually express to them the actual reasons why we believe the things we do

09:00:36.100 why we have come to these conclusions our conclusions are 100 percent based on fact that's it we are the

09:00:44.900 factual party anything besides that it gets it's just lost in the weeds we can get on the theology

09:00:53.380 we can get on the economics it goes we can spend hours going down those rabbit holes but what really

09:01:00.340 matters is our facts and our children as long as we're sticking to the facts and our children we

09:01:05.380 cannot fail it doesn't matter if we're calming it and this is a weird this this might be a bad

09:01:10.740 interpretation on some people's part but to me it does not matter if we're muslim if we're christian

09:01:16.340 if we're pagan as long as we are a white collective that understands that we have to stick together as

09:01:21.700 white people we will win thank you yeah i concur man if if somebody's 14 words and they can show that

09:01:30.420 like your ideology and things it'll shake out i mean if you're if you're like oh i'm 14 words and then

09:01:36.820 you know we suss out that you are you know that that's a little bit about you know ht's in in a

09:01:43.460 a bit of a constant attack over the fact that he told a uh i think it was a latter-day saint it was a

09:01:51.220 mormon guy who said he would hide um non-whites in his church and ht went like well we'll have to come 0.99

09:01:59.940 and kill you then and then it's like oh and she wants to kill white people right it's it's we we 0.99

09:02:06.180 we actually to be pro-white to be 14 words means you're not gonna do that and if we find out that 0.99

09:02:12.900 you're you claim 14 words and then you're like yeah i'm 14 words except uh except my employees

09:02:18.740 right my employees can say oh i'm 14 words except my tenant who's not white can he's cool right because

09:02:24.580 he's you know come on guys it's like no you're either you know that that stuff all falls out in the

09:02:30.420 wash the the the bigger picture to me is getting people on the same page to acknowledge the 14 words

09:02:36.340 and go yeah actually the 14 words is where i start and where i finish and we can easily assess um

09:02:44.260 deviation i mean this is not hard to assess deviation uh what is hard to assess is uh sometimes is actual

09:02:52.420 genetics uh that's sometimes harder to assess than deviation from uh what's important but that's kind of

09:02:59.060 goes hand in hand like what if if your genetics are are off and you're claiming to be 14 words 0.99

09:03:05.540 you know they're you know you good for them if they've come to our side and they say fuck my race 0.98

09:03:12.500 good for them yeah well i mean i mean i'm even talking about like a court like 70s like actually 0.99

09:03:17.780 a quarter like non-white but they appear white and they're like 14 words and we're like okay kind of

09:03:23.780 like maybe i don't know i don't know about this person well yes eventually they're gonna have to

09:03:28.900 put their money where their mouth is and and there there's where action comes into play and and sometimes

09:03:34.420 you can assess and sometimes you have to take what you know you got to take what uh appearances or what

09:03:40.660 people's words are and go okay but if you see deviation from the philosophy of the 14 words in exceptions

09:03:47.540 then those are pretty easy and those are for me like a non-starter that's why like nick fuentes is

09:03:53.620 a non-starter for that reason ideologically he's not 14 words at all and he's a he's a

09:03:59.620 fucking mudblood yeah he's a mudblood and he's not 14 words if he was 14 words then the 79 percent 0.99

09:04:06.420 um european blood that he has that i've seen his dna the 79 percent blood would would be something we 0.99

09:04:13.460 could like okay it's pretty fucking close and he's 14 words as fuck so i think we can give this guy a 0.95

09:04:19.060 pass but he's not and so it doesn't even matter if he is a hundred percent he's like yeah i'm a hundred 0.96

09:04:25.700 percent european and uh white people are the best and also here's my buddy kanye it's like what the 0.97

09:04:32.180 fuck are you talking about like this is this is a non-starter there is a synthesis between race and 0.97

09:04:38.500 politics and and to confuse it is childish yeah it it does it and it always comes out in the wash 0.99

09:04:46.180 i'm very confident about that that's why when people are are claiming this or that about people

09:04:50.500 like i'm watching their moves and i'm watching their politics and i'm and i'm being very very

09:04:55.620 you know closely monitoring how people perform in real life and all you got to do is cross that line

09:05:03.620 uh and you you're going to take a ding right and uh and and and i and i agree we and we play this 0.99

09:05:10.580 game like the internet doesn't matter the fuck it doesn't like come on let's be real i'm going to 0.97

09:05:16.820 forget what i had to say because you've be entered so far 0.98

09:05:21.540 go see go ahead get in there brother all right let me see if i can recover my thoughts here i wanted to

09:05:28.020 put a little bit of a spin on something i said earlier but first i want to say um a parasite uh

09:05:36.740 by its very nature is going to aid because there's just no way out of that uh the other thing was about

09:05:44.740 shiloh and that situation so i'd like to view these things a very high level in terms of capital flow

09:05:53.060 uh in the case of shiloh she was in inside the white control volume so the capital didn't leave

09:06:03.380 our people whereas the grifter who had attached herself to her uh would technically be outside of

09:06:11.940 the control volume that is white so that would be capital flowing outside unfortunately we're in

09:06:18.820 we're in a situation where the system has been designed to extract capital from from us from

09:06:26.340 our control volume and take it into the jewish what would be the biggest coup would be if we could flip 1.00

09:06:35.300 that situation so that it wouldn't matter that you have a spurt out there uh collecting money as long

09:06:44.260 as it stayed inside our control uh and what so the biggest thing would be to have currency i think

09:06:53.300 how we get there i don't know but i just want to throw that out there i'll land thanks guys yeah no

09:06:58.740 nice nice sweet and to the point and that's that would be you know that's a part of my mind circulates

09:07:05.380 around this this question and uh and that's when we get into more of a dry bits and bytes conversation

09:07:13.380 over crypto and what it means and how it's useful um the other thing about it is a little more juicy

09:07:19.300 because it is it already has uh a utility is is having a bank uh you know being able to run our own

09:07:28.420 bank uh is um is a potential means to an end or at least maybe uh maybe a bridge from here to currency

09:07:37.860 uh you know but those are those are you're right about that uh and also um you know having our own

09:07:47.220 gifts and go that is our own right so it's like when when people are using our services people can

09:07:56.420 already trust that we're holding some accountability to those who are using the system to actually vet out

09:08:04.340 where the money's going and keeping it racially pure so there's again back to your point right no

09:08:10.500 leakage on on the the system uh these are all network uh potentials and and really obligations that we

09:08:20.340 have uh and you know a bank uh i think there's i know there's there's state and federal uh um credit unions

09:08:34.820 there's actual banks there's different there's different uh mechanisms uh that i'm not completely

09:08:41.300 familiar with on how we could use something like that for a national um um opportunity or whether these

09:08:52.020 things are have to be local state by state uh those are also things just as we as we kind of figure

09:08:59.060 stuff out to consider uh but no that's that's the the principle of what you brought up of of establishing

09:09:06.180 a resistance to leakage or parasitism is a fundamental framework we we must establish uh it's all 14 words uh

09:09:18.020 congruent and uh it's it's a must uh tungsten go ahead

09:09:29.060 tungsten you there

09:09:36.500 all right all right uh just since we're having a moment a brief break uh 1488 radio uh 14 words we

09:09:50.180 must secure the existence of our people in the future for white children because the beauty of 1.00

09:09:55.140 the white aryan woman must not perish from the earth and this is a must uh it also doesn't mean

09:10:01.700 we have to like each other never said anything about that uh we're just gonna have to uh get along

09:10:07.540 uh to uh make it happen so you know um buckle up your heart strings um and uh to that end if you would

09:10:17.620 that'd be great if uh you could repost the show right now we've got 40 minutes left of the show

09:10:25.060 uh but it would be nice just to keep the the show out there uh keep it on radars you never know who drops

09:10:32.820 in and how they stick so that would be great if you could do that um as well as uh give the host

09:10:41.700 a uh a follow the host account a follow set your uh your notifications to on so that when uh the

09:10:50.020 shows come on um we can uh make that happen uh arian if you uh if you want um i know you had planned to do

09:10:58.580 uh do a uh show this week and uh we have opportunities with white excellence radio to uh

09:11:06.260 for uh potential hosts and co-hosts of shows uh we are interested in talking to people about what

09:11:14.260 they want to uh want to do if it aligns with white excellence and uh in the 14 words we are certainly

09:11:22.900 interested in how we can uh you know benefit each other in sharing what we have and what we've built

09:11:30.340 um and the content that uh you're bringing so yeah arian to feel free to uh to you can go into dms talk

09:11:38.100 about what you're doing and if we want to you know participate together in that um the tungsten are you

09:11:44.660 back yet uh i know your hands up but maybe it's just yeah yeah i'm here yeah did you did you hear what

09:11:51.620 uh think baits was um was mentioning about uh the money system and currency and the banking

09:12:00.580 yeah i i did hear some of that i'm very much a fan of uh exploring you know to the degree that we

09:12:06.740 can credit unions etc um we look at our adversary who's getting interest-free loans i mean it's just

09:12:14.260 it's astonishing so um i myself i'm not an expert in the field but i'm sure there's someone within our

09:12:20.500 our purview that or probably more than one that could help us along with this i'm very much

09:12:25.940 interested in that um what i wanted to talk about if we unless we've moved on is briefly because i

09:12:31.700 don't believe the margins are quite clear and that is you very um rightly elucidated uh a certain

09:12:39.540 someone that's in the 79 percentile without naming names but let's just use this metric like so so and so

09:12:46.340 that is 79 percent uh white um and they do happen to um uh affirm the 14 words uh as opposed to the

09:12:58.500 example that was given earlier is that a margin that we're comfortable with because i don't believe

09:13:04.900 that's really clear and there's some people that are are falling into in and around that mark that

09:13:11.460 are kind of uncertain that they're welcome in our sphere

09:13:16.340 well there's there's a little range um and i think i'll just be very as loose as possible with

09:13:24.820 it but i would say the range genetically comes in from about 25 i'm going to be very broad with this

09:13:36.180 so i don't agree with it but i think that uh even looking back at uh germany and the uh the nuremberg

09:13:44.260 laws 25 percent non-white up and above um that's what i would say most people um not most people what i'd

09:13:54.980 say is that would be like the low end uh if if there is one i would keep it much tighter than that if i was

09:14:02.580 just to wave a magic wand um at one eighth non-white is the is the maximum i would consider um and then

09:14:14.180 kind of you know go up from there it's it's a bit of a spectrum but here's here's another one and i'll

09:14:19.540 speak for white reich who has not joined us today but and uh i think uh frank's uh frank da silva

09:14:26.180 also uh has used this phrase is that if it looks white it acts white and it fights white then it's

09:14:35.860 acceptable and and that's another you know another metric that nick fuentes fails um is because he

09:14:45.300 doesn't fight white which is uh on two parts one he's a bit limp wristed two uh he has non-whites

09:14:52.900 among his uh fighting corps as it were so there's there's kind of those things um but i would say

09:15:00.740 like maximum i would say like his 25 it really depends on what that is to you if it's like 25

09:15:07.140 percent african or jew or something like that um it's you know it just it becomes the case by case

09:15:17.940 which is why i kind of on the on the front end of it if it looks white it acts white and it fights white

09:15:23.780 then we'll go ahead and run with it and then if if it's 14 words aligned if uh if the person is 14

09:15:32.020 words aligned and is supporting uh the security of our existence and a future for white children 0.98

09:15:39.700 then um then we go you know ahead and march forward and after we secure that and we secure our place

09:15:50.500 then we can purity spiral a little bit further right and uh and then we have the the other moves but

09:15:57.700 uh you know with 25 is there anybody you know who's like more than 25 percent um and is uh

09:16:07.540 is uh concerned

09:16:11.860 no not personally i just in my circles are a little bit tighter i i just i find this conversation

09:16:19.540 fascinating um there are acquaintances that i'm aware of but not anyone in my um yeah gotcha

09:16:26.820 yeah yeah that's a pretty loose one right the 25 is pretty loose but i think it covers

09:16:34.340 the looks white acts like fights white i think you're i think you're spot on i i certainly use 0.85

09:16:39.460 those metrics um elucidated in the nuremberg laws um interestingly is they the germans referenced some of the

09:16:49.380 um uh policies that were existing in america when they started to outline

09:16:56.500 those um that is in terms of the eugenics and stuff like that we were actually much stricter

09:17:03.540 um than they were it's kind of interesting to studies but to your finally to your point about

09:17:10.980 in the future uh after we've secured the existence um and that we could then be more um choosy

09:17:19.700 shall we say um and i think that's something that we can do through genetics positive eugenics in the

09:17:25.780 future and then we could just select for as you um said to get even more pure down the line but again

09:17:33.300 i think as the immediate uh requirements i think are pretty spot on thanks yeah yeah no i i appreciate it

09:17:42.340 it and i'm a i'm nordic and germanic and you know six foot three you know 195 stature like i'm i'm fairly

09:17:53.540 you know you know stereotypical nordic um overall and so i don't have any qualms really you know but

09:18:05.620 i know that there are those italians i know italians greeks you know especially if they're

09:18:13.300 they're more swarthy or olive skin there has been discussions and and they hear things you have these

09:18:19.380 nordic supremacists and i get it you know they they they like to keep to their own and i don't think

09:18:24.500 anything's wrong with that from a a purity standpoint they want to keep it pure but we have a common

09:18:31.540 a common cause and if i look through history and i see that the european continent was defended

09:18:40.420 in large part by those uh you know more you know less less blue-eyed blonde hair uh mediterranean whites

09:18:51.620 not that they didn't have any blue-eyed blonde hair because they definitely did but they we were defended

09:18:57.140 you know from the hordes by them for centuries i i can't i would never exclude them from being a part

09:19:06.100 of our folk and and having their own place in the world uh the white world being able to especially 0.58

09:19:12.420 the greeks and the romans what they did to uh you know to bring civilization to where it is germany

09:19:19.940 obviously uh look to rome as an a beacon of of civilization and uh and uh um something to uh to

09:19:28.580 embody as a as prestige so there's a lot there um and i think you know i i think 14 words is the first

09:19:37.860 step and if you can be 14 words obviously myron gains could be 14 words all he wants and it'll never

09:19:44.020 work but he's not he's he's not 14 words but you know and you'll rarely rarely have that actually

09:19:50.420 they'll always equivocate on the 14 words so before i go too long let's get back to think

09:19:56.260 um and then we'll go involuntary and back to arian 1.00

09:20:04.500 okay so i've been trying to develop a uh rubric with regards to this and you know i'm kind of

09:20:13.540 trying to sort out some game theory and maybe you guys can help me rip on it a little bit

09:20:18.260 um it does the the looks white acts white fights white kind of is a good mantra but it doesn't

09:20:26.180 capture everything um i definitely know of even hapless that um they're fighting a pretty good fight

09:20:36.660 uh you have to understand their psychology they're they're stuck

09:20:44.500 um and a lot of them look like say they're like there's one girl i'm following

09:20:48.980 who's she's uh dominican uh she's getting a white guy so you know that i'm him uh and um she hates 1.00

09:21:00.260 haitians so she abuses the haitians regularly she claims to be a pagan uh i see her out there

09:21:08.340 i mean being being braver than most white men probably so the question is what do we do with 0.89

09:21:17.700 these people um because she clearly doesn't want to live uh in black culture and she's not trying to 1.00

09:21:26.020 replicate it so um i would say that there's two categories here there's you're a white person

09:21:34.740 and then you're protected right uh and to be protected there are rules uh and the number one

09:21:43.220 rule is that you never ever behave in a way that is counter to the well-being of white people period

09:21:50.740 uh and that's that's pretty much what i got

09:21:57.300 i i have some things to add on to that and i appreciate you uh you stretching the the window

09:22:02.420 here on that um involuntary go ahead hey yeah i was just gonna add in my two cents me personally i

09:22:10.100 my cutoff limit is 95 percent um and the reason for that is because i've seen a lot of dna tests

09:22:16.820 over the years from friends and various people and among people that i would classify as white

09:22:23.780 which are which i'm i'm pretty uh i'm not like a nordicist or anything like i would i'd be a pretty

09:22:30.340 broad in that category but everybody i've seen has been over 95 percent white i've never nobody's ever

09:22:36.500 come back with like some mysterious hidden you know non-white dna so for me personally like even like 0.65

09:22:46.180 more like sore these other italians have been over 95 percent white so for me i think we don't really 0.93

09:22:51.780 have to make too many accommodations as far as like octoroons or anything like that but that's just my

09:22:57.540 opinion that's it no it's a valid opinion i think uh this is it'll be an ongoing conversation uh especially

09:23:09.060 if we are successful at anything at all uh this will definitely be an ongoing conversation arian go ahead

09:23:16.180 i'm not gonna lie i just started arguing with my girlfriend so uh go ahead and skip me

09:23:25.540 that happens to me sometimes too so you're in good company

09:23:28.500 um my wife uh but yeah um so yeah circling me back i did have some things on what think brought up here

09:23:37.060 is that um is that what to do with with uh certain people who might um and and and i guess this would

09:23:48.020 kind of travel into an interesting area where you know it's not a group of nons who are allies but a

09:23:55.860 single infiltrator or somebody who is useful in certain areas who earns something in return right

09:24:06.420 right and it's it there is uh and again i'll go back to my favorite thing to do is like rug pulled

09:24:12.660 on whites so there might be a rug pull in there somewhere but in the meantime just kind of fleshing

09:24:19.140 out the uh the the theory the hypothesis on it um it could be you know where you know the the easy

09:24:29.940 the easiest thing to deal with um is the citizenship element uh it's a piece of paper you sign it and

09:24:40.900 all of the non-whites are no longer citizens it's back to you know something you know white uh and and 0.96

09:24:48.020 no one else has citizenship rights which means you can't own anything you don't have you know there's a

09:24:54.100 a lot of of privileges to go along with citizenship you don't get etc and i and their minimum somebody

09:25:01.060 who was non-white is going to fall into that category there there i i wouldn't you know that

09:25:05.860 maybe they could have a little bit extra maybe they could be you know helped out in a different way

09:25:11.300 but as far as citizenship goes there would be no um um no negotiation on the line there so that's

09:25:21.940 kind of where i would fall think in terms of of what you know that that person could do like there

09:25:28.580 you know if in my world if i had a wand you know all nons non-citizens no no natal rights you can't 0.99

09:25:38.100 reproduce you in and and and i'm you know they so that would be another aspect i would not be comfortable

09:25:45.140 with a non-white in in my country reproducing right they'd have to just go somewhere else 1.00

09:25:53.380 and we could facilitate that go if you were a help to us if you were like supportive of 14 words and you

09:26:00.100 you were playing any significant part whatsoever sure let's give you a let's give you um a care

09:26:07.060 package and send you on your way that what do you think about that think

09:26:10.660 so um i mean i would be fine with that uh other than i would take it to maybe to a second order in

09:26:24.420 that the demographic warfare that's been perpetrated upon is it's being perpetrated upon white rooms

09:26:31.540 um sperm is cheap so i would like in the case of there's multiple cases but uh in the case of this

09:26:41.940 dominican girl uh you have to think of it like he he her husband could still have white kids right uh

09:26:52.500 uh i think and we can hardly hear you i think is this is this happening for everybody i can't hear

09:27:04.660 you no he's roboting for me this is roboting pretty bad yeah that's the memory i'm probably gonna have

09:27:12.580 to out can you hear me now it's a little bit better it's a little spotty still but it's it's a little

09:27:19.620 better why don't you go ahead and try to finish that up um so so the next generation would be

09:27:29.140 half again not right uh and if you do that for enough generations then so the way i'm saying it is

09:27:38.420 it's like instead of the browning of america you're doing the whiting of america you understand what

09:27:44.260 i'm saying so there's no their argument falls apart actually you know they oh we're we want

09:27:52.900 diversity because basically we want everybody to be a uniform mocha well why did we have to be

09:27:58.260 a uniform mocha how about we be a uniform white because that's that's the culture you're trying to come 0.99

09:28:04.100 to so it's obviously the superior culture right superior yeah yeah so uh what i would say is you're not

09:28:13.780 allowed to invite you your presence is not an invitation for infinite nods to come in right so

09:28:20.740 that's that's no you're how that's what you think because you're no longer operating uh in

09:28:30.420 in the best interests of uh white people so you can't be we can't be we can't be putting any resources

09:28:36.660 um and so just keep going if you keep following that line that eventually we do get to a place

09:28:45.940 that's more uh homogenous which is the goal i don't want it to be homogenous black which is the way black 1.00

09:28:53.620 people look at it and the way marches look at it oh we're gonna we're gonna have them i want either one

09:29:00.340 of them and there is there's no um more arguments for them to set to claim that if we go to modernity

09:29:09.460 that it should be or black and that that's what that's how i'm doing i think it was tough it was

09:29:18.820 tough uh i'll be honest uh the roboting was pretty bad but i think we got the gist of that

09:29:24.740 i think so um yeah the the yeah i think i think it's fair i don't i don't want to spiral on that

09:29:34.740 because there's a lot to unpack there in in terms of i think it's a good element to think about when we

09:29:41.220 do uh maybe a game theory session on something like that on how we would deal with that uh post

09:29:49.460 victory i mean this is really post victory um post sovereignty post supremacy um um you know uh

09:29:59.700 thought so um in terms of uh of projecting and cutting to the chase without getting into a lot of those

09:30:10.660 little you know more unique nuances um you know uh we'll we'll kind of pull it back there um richie

09:30:20.020 uh are you following the conversation here what do you got no uh uh no i'm not following conversation

09:30:26.660 i was glitching the fox so uh i was gonna introduce a different topic so um if you want to continue

09:30:35.140 uh your own yeah we'll can yeah i think we'll continue this uh okay yeah i'll come

09:30:40.660 yeah i'll come back i'll come back yeah yeah of course yeah we just uh we have 19 minutes left in

09:30:46.980 the show today um friday uh gonna launch off into uh our weekend here uh meet some people irl do some

09:30:56.660 things um that are uh white power so i won't be able to stick around um so we'll finish

09:31:06.100 yeah let me just say quickly is anything related to uh what was taking place with uh methi hassan

09:31:14.340 because i was glitching when i dropped out because i couldn't continue the conversation but uh whenever

09:31:19.620 meet hassan and i just wanted to ask you about you whether or not you even knew who that guy was

09:31:25.380 meet hassan who did these uh interviews with these guys and go i'm i'm i'm a i'm a nationalist i'm a i'm a

09:31:31.620 a fascist uh and then they get destroyed because they weren't you know up to the the debate uh

09:31:39.700 whereas i i don't know if you know who that guy is and i was just trying to tell you who he was

09:31:44.740 because i'm i'm familiar with him because i'm from from uh this part of the world um if you want to

09:31:50.820 know then i'll tell you but if you want to go on and continue the conversation in a different direction

09:31:55.060 okay yeah no let's let's uh hang on right there because you know i'd like to to pick at that here

09:32:00.980 a little bit so yeah hang on right there i just want to kind of open it up and and flesh out um

09:32:07.140 what is uh left on on the idea of of racial acceptance versus racial purity uh and and involuntary

09:32:18.020 celery uh you know came in there there's people who are higher uh than the 95 percent in terms of what

09:32:28.580 they demand as as purity um this is where it gets kind of you know interesting like i i can follow my

09:32:39.700 my my parents i have my lineages back to when my family on both sides landed in the united states of

09:32:48.180 america all right so i can i can follow that genetic line all the way back and you know it's it's all 100

09:32:57.140 percent uh you know european now i take a dna test and it shows up like 97 or 98 european something like

09:33:08.740 that okay well where's this two percent coming from what's what is this even and how like it's it gets

09:33:16.020 you know and again and then it goes back to what do we trust these dna tests and then how are we really

09:33:21.220 measuring uh what is 95 percent versus and that's kind of where i i am my autism starts to malfunction

09:33:31.700 and like i start doing the whole uh r2d2 frizz out right by in and i might my circuits just start

09:33:40.180 exploding um because how do we figure this out and and when somebody is is more like like a nick

09:33:48.900 fuentes he's got like three point something percent sub-saharan african um okay i mean that's that's what the

09:33:56.100 dna test says okay we're just gonna take it on his word again the politics flesh itself out for us we

09:34:02.180 don't even need to know his dna because his politics are brown so it's you know in terms of of how pure

09:34:10.100 we can get like i love these people who are like i am a hundred percent it's like okay well you know how

09:34:17.380 far back can you go and what does that look like it does become um a problem um to to try to pinpoint

09:34:27.220 and get completely autistic about it which i would love to do but even with my own i like yeah i see

09:34:33.220 where i'm from and what where's the measuring stick actually and yeah and that's the thing like how low 0.99

09:34:42.260 is the bar like your fucking white congratulations it almost becomes a bit of a circle jerk and it's 1.00

09:34:50.100 it's like it doesn't really prove a whole lot like if you're dumb and swarthy like i don't give a 1.00

09:34:57.300 fuck what your fucking dna test said but like you know what i mean like if you're still like mediocre 0.99

09:35:03.620 and swarthy you showing me a piece of paper does it make you less mediocre and swarthy you know what i 1.00

09:35:11.780 mean like yeah yeah this this cookie crumbles both ways and it's it's there's so i i know involuntary has

09:35:19.220 the high mark on this um at 95 and he's got his hand up i want to go to him to kind of let let him air

09:35:25.620 that out because um i i like this side of the conversation i like the high side better than the

09:35:32.420 low side uh to be honest just because it gets more it gets more technical so i yeah celery go ahead

09:35:41.620 okay sorry yeah hang on there richie hang on there yeah i've never looked into the methodology that

09:35:49.460 these websites dna test sites use um so i can't vouch for their credibility although just just based on

09:35:57.140 what i've seen it appears to be pretty accurate um however you know so i i just use the current

09:36:05.140 the current tech as like a rule of thumb but i would like to see in the future uh you know when

09:36:10.740 we have you know our own institutions countries whatever you know obviously we could get our

09:36:16.580 own scientists to like perfect the methodology and get it exact um however you know i've always been

09:36:23.940 kind of a fan of these dna tests just because my test just so happened to come back a hundred percent

09:36:29.620 white which is fairly uncommon from what i've seen but you know i i totally leave open the the

09:36:37.300 it's it's very probable that um you know people with like two percent this or that there's probably

09:36:43.460 a lot of inaccuracies there yeah i would just add i had an aspiration at one point just wasn't

09:36:48.740 important enough to to like hit all of them and almost do like like a mean median average situation

09:36:55.140 um and get it from because yeah you're right the methodology is proprietary um and closed source

09:37:02.500 so i think if it was open source i would be a little bit more trusting of it but these companies

09:37:07.700 have been busted putting in bunk um sort of uh erroneous uh percentages of non-white admixture

09:37:16.020 so to what mythos was just saying about fuenteses that's literally a case in point like if you're

09:37:21.460 why even like it's just so sus if you're like 0.02 percent like a fraction of one percent sub-saharan

09:37:29.860 like what is the methodology here it just it kind of um it sours me the credibility um of the entire

09:37:36.980 thing so i wish there was a trustworthy company with some sort of open source kind of protocol or

09:37:41.700 methodology that could be trusted um but until we have that it's just um you know and then you know

09:37:48.260 like the chain of custody the it's easily forged it just doesn't hold up in court like if it was done

09:37:53.860 in some sort of controlled and consistent way i place more stock in it um but something i post in

09:37:59.780 his dna like it's so eat like if you know anything about like basic tech it's just so easily uh easily

09:38:07.700 forged you know what i mean it's it's just um i put a lot more stock in putting eyes on a guy like that

09:38:14.500 that i can see and not to be like overly rudimentary and boomer about it um but again like if the dna

09:38:20.740 results don't match the guy i don't give a fuck so like if you if it matches i'll put more stock into 0.85

09:38:26.100 it if i look at the ancestry and it checks out the physiognomy and the percentages and the ratios

09:38:30.820 past the smell test i'll put a quite a bit of stock in it but i've seen these things where it does not

09:38:35.460 match the guy and it maybe i'm just being jaded i probably am and i'm you know i'm you know smart and

09:38:41.940 man enough to admit that um but i think it's just it's been used and abused and usually the guys

09:38:49.060 loudest and the proudest about it are um the least impressive i've noticed there's almost yeah yeah

09:38:54.020 yeah yeah uh in the end we're going to go back to measuring noses and hands so you know ultimately

09:39:00.820 let's go yeah ultimately everybody's getting on the train the box car um so well no with that with

09:39:08.980 that said i wanted to ask a question since we have some people who have at least a you know some

09:39:13.460 sense of what's going on scientifically on these things i got my dna uh tested by 23 and me right

09:39:21.140 this is a long time ago uh i wouldn't do that with them today i'd look for somebody else i don't know

09:39:25.460 if i'd be able to do it at all but i i did that with them got my uh my test results back and then i was

09:39:33.460 able to download those test results and then upload them to my true ancestry.com which my true ancestry.com

09:39:41.860 if you're familiar it'll go through and do uh like a um an ancient relative uh analysis it will go

09:39:50.260 through like castles you may have been um affiliated with tartans right if anybody's familiar with the uh

09:39:58.260 tartan uh that heraldry um all the all the things that our ancestors have done in the past and and

09:40:06.420 built they they actually map out that whole thing right and and that's where you know my my ancestry on

09:40:12.740 that on that platform it goes okay you have some you know your your ancestors were norwegian vikings

09:40:20.660 they were swedish vikings they were dutch vikings and it goes through all of these different layers and

09:40:25.940 says okay here's and and it maps it out in a different way so what my question is you know is

09:40:33.060 are we sus about the test itself and the the results or are we just sus about how they measure

09:40:40.500 it and taking that dna download to another company and letting them assess the same data is that

09:40:47.780 trustworthy uh again i'm my mind looks like who i am like i don't have any worries about that but i'm

09:40:55.620 just i'm just i'm just speaking in in general to the methodology or the um the science of

09:41:03.620 of analyzing the dna is are we trusting that process at all either would be my question

09:41:11.140 yeah i have to go irl calls but i would agree um that we want to be considerate of many factors

09:41:26.900 obviously there we see a lot of discrepancy maybe not a lot but enough to cause question within the um

09:41:34.660 genetic testing and until we have a better you know bearing on who's doing the the testing i think

09:41:41.140 we can't lean too much on that so with that being said you got to look at the person it does help to

09:41:46.740 analyze the genetics um and then you look into these other avenues that um you you mentioned mythos to get

09:41:52.980 a better idea and and i think that's that's kind of the way forward you have many different facets that

09:41:58.660 you hope hopefully come to a better conclusion um in the end so thanks for the time guys be well yeah

09:42:05.140 it was great thanks for hanging out tunks appreciate your your contribution

09:42:08.900 uh yeah yeah yeah mythos i'm just going to say very quickly and i mean it's just for you guys

09:42:20.020 especially in the united states who have probably only been introduced to uh maybe hassan so he's

09:42:26.820 the guy that does kind of you know uh charter kirk style interviews and that's what i would describe

09:42:32.420 him as he's like a left-wing version of charter kirk like a like a foreigner version of charter kirk

09:42:38.900 or he's trying to you know do these gotchas and uh and he's obviously very articulate he's very

09:42:46.100 he's an intelligent guy um people in america probably that's the first time they've ever experienced him

09:42:51.540 but he's been around block a long time many years he's uh he's always on uh what's called bbc question

09:43:00.020 time in which there's like a political kind of debate he's uh he's been he was the editor of a like a

09:43:08.100 magazine called the new statesman which uh in american terms if you're familiar with left-wing

09:43:14.500 magazines be uh the nation so uh so he's been uh and he was editor of that for years and and then he

09:43:22.660 went to al jazeera he's uh so like he's a he's a cuck uh muslim want to be kind of just he's so 0.93

09:43:34.180 engraved here that with his own importance but he isn't telling the guy so he takes down the low-hanging

09:43:39.860 fruit and that's what you saw whenever he was debating these people uh in this round table thing

09:43:46.260 where people i haven't seen much of that before but he obviously was more intelligent he could

09:43:51.780 destroy people unless and he wouldn't debate anyone with a high aq someone who knew the stuff that could

09:43:58.900 actually debate him with any kind of veracity uh and fortitude but yeah and i think we're all up to 0.98

09:44:06.900 speed on that um on uh metty hassan yeah i mean he's he's uh he's a a guard just a garbage uh you 0.89

09:44:16.180 know a garbage person he was fired from uh msnbc you know how bad do you have to be to be fired from uh

09:44:24.340 msnbc so there you go yeah he doesn't he doesn't have a great track record um we no we actually uh richie we 0.91

09:44:31.940 had two of the guys who were on that jubilee show with metty hassan we had them on yesterday uh and we

09:44:40.180 we really got an inside look at um at uh what goes on and and uh from the contestants perspective uh you

09:44:51.300 know what that all felt like and looked like so it was it was a pretty good show okay well i didn't i

09:44:58.420 didn't i didn't hear that or listen to it i just saw just obviously the you know just eclipse and

09:45:03.060 different things so do you know how he just you know came out on top and he was you know oh why

09:45:08.660 why is why is immigration a bad thing and stuff and i think he came out you know being superior if

09:45:14.340 Charlie Kirk going interviewing you know uh college students you know obviously he's going to win

09:45:19.380 because he's all the talking points and whenever things are going to be raised he knows exactly how to

09:45:25.140 respond to them yeah well i think i think yeah and to to those guys credit who uh who went up there

09:45:31.540 and debated him they actually uh came out you know with points on the board as yeah yeah as as bad as

09:45:42.900 like metty hassan is and was in his composure and decorum during that debate uh they actually got

09:45:51.380 some points on the board and um and that were uh yeah and actually uh were able to uh you know hold

09:46:01.700 their own uh it was it was actually um impressive and they're they're both impressive guys they were

09:46:06.260 both uh on our show uh here yesterday uh really smart uh and articulate folks um one of them that was on

09:46:16.020 our show yesterday was just 19 years old uh you know very very impressive very steeped in his in

09:46:23.060 his uh positions his education about what's going on so all together uh but the thing is okay this

09:46:30.660 this guy's been doing this for a long time so he knew how to either not answer question or re-divert

09:46:38.580 the question or yeah no he did that yeah he did that a bunch of times it was really frustrating just

09:46:45.380 being uh being uh just watching it yeah if if the person he was he was debating would would say no

09:46:53.300 hold on let's stick to the original question whereas they allowed him to divert it to a different

09:46:59.620 direction in order to go oh so you're a fascist okay so uh and just instead of continuing on the

09:47:06.580 point and people having either the confidence or the yeah we yeah we really did uh yeah we did a

09:47:12.660 really deep dive on this um yesterday because we had those guys on yeah yeah but we yeah we appreciate

09:47:19.300 it and all this was discussed yesterday i don't want to rehash too much of it but you're you're not

09:47:23.700 wrong in any of that that's that was uh you know really the topic of the show yesterday it was really

09:47:28.500 great i was just here just before i leave here i'll just say be careful because there will be

09:47:33.860 there will be a numism guy who will come your way and uh his name will be majid nawaz um yeah yeah i

09:47:41.620 know that i know that name yeah i know who that is so so he's part of that tommy robinson kind of

09:47:47.780 forgave uh they were part of the club club foundation um i i guarantee he'll come your way very soon

09:47:55.140 uh and he will be uh he's going to be posted out as a this new ex-islamicist and he's going to be

09:48:03.860 oh well we're all part of this new network but uh just be careful because i think he's going to come

09:48:08.820 your way very soon but anyway guys appreciate it appreciate you yeah absolutely bye bye all right

09:48:16.180 we'll talk to you later uh honky get in there and i think you probably wanted to talk about uh purity

09:48:21.780 spiraling and genetics uh but if i'm wrong uh whatever you want to talk about we'll close it

09:48:26.260 out oh man you're right uh can you hear me okay yeah it's perfect okay cool uh no i'm glad you

09:48:32.340 mentioned that slide that was actually brought to my attention um a couple weeks ago and i downloaded

09:48:37.620 my data put in there um i was going to try to look into them and vet them first but uh you mentioned it

09:48:44.980 um you said you did that was there anything kind of groundbreaking because i hear it takes like

09:48:49.300 you know archaeological dna and kind of ties into those uh you know uh battle sites castles all

09:48:55.140 that were you impressed by it at all or was it a waste of time well because i'm i'm nordic uh for

09:49:01.540 the most part and german um you know i didn't get any scottish um um i didn't get any scottish uh uh

09:49:11.940 what do they call those um yeah i just i just said the word i can't think of it um but the yeah the

09:49:21.860 tartans right i didn't i didn't have yeah we didn't build castles right um you know i knew my history

09:49:28.820 pretty well already so it wasn't anything surprising it was pretty much what i knew but it was interesting

09:49:35.860 and it was af it was affirming because you know what i knew is is i'm my ancestors were the vikings

09:49:42.260 this is where you know my great great uh or no my great grandfather uh you know came from sweden uh

09:49:49.860 it was kind of cool to see that you know that and to see them pick apart that genetics and and tie it into

09:49:57.860 the dutch uh and the the um norwegian um uh vikings and so forth so it was it was helpful i spent

09:50:09.940 i think eighty dollars getting the upgrade so that it would do a deeper dive it's not the free one's

09:50:16.580 not great you know it's the you know it you know to get like some further um features with all of it it

09:50:25.540 it is going to cost a bit just a heads up but i i it was worth it i would do it again definitely

09:50:31.620 pay the 80 bucks to get um the certain level that i had and it was it was nice for what it's worth

09:50:40.340 donald trump has just arrived in scotland for five days his mother miriam mcleod is from the outer sky so

09:50:46.740 uh trump has a historic connection trump has just arrived in scotland he's spending five days there

09:50:52.900 he's playing golf blah blah and all those courses you can hey richie you can keep him 0.99

09:51:00.180 yeah oh fuck off uh you know what you don't want to send back more than anything is that 0.99

09:51:06.900 rosie o'donnell is in ireland and uh ellen degenerates is england in england and 1.00

09:51:15.860 everybody wants to get rid of them obviously yeah

09:51:19.380 yeah thanks richie yeah trump for five days in scotland uh if you're if you've got scotty

09:51:25.860 heritage uh just just be ashamed of the fact that he's there uh and but the thing is all the left 0.52

09:51:32.100 wing fuckers are against him as well which just and this is a very contrived plan but it's uh yeah 0.90

09:51:39.780 for different reasons but anyway guys thank you yeah thanks richie yeah a honky um

09:51:44.580 um that that's kind of it i i i there's not too much more groundbreaking stuff but if if you have

09:51:51.380 like english um or scottish ancestry i think it'd be very interesting french ancestry i think that

09:51:59.780 that site provides a lot of information very cool stuff we just we built ships right and then they broke

09:52:05.860 and then they we you know we burned them so there's not a whole lot that i get to uh draw from

09:52:11.940 um that still stands or anything but it's a good site i i promote it 100 i'm just glad to get

09:52:18.740 someone's feedback on it because i just heard about it so i appreciate it y'all yeah i i heard about it

09:52:25.940 word of mouth as well from somebody that i trust to uh do the right research so you know there's that

09:52:32.900 but yeah cool and it didn't take long it i mean it was it was a bit to i have them you know do the

09:52:39.060 upload and everything uh but it didn't take that long so all together it was a it was a nice experience

09:52:48.420 i would do it again but with that uh with that said uh we are past the hour here um

09:52:57.860 we are going to close down 1488 radio uh we thank you all for joining us today this week it's been a

09:53:04.500 great week uh we hope you have a great weekend um our uh our prayers and and hopes uh for white

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