Action4Canada - August 13, 2026


Homeschooling： The Best and Safest Choice with Doris Livingstone and Duane and Jilene Hay

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Doris Livingstone Dwayne Jolene Hay Steve Heather Votie Bauckham Billy Crone Duane Proverbs Jaleen
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00:00:00 That's the beautiful thing about home education is that you're developing and influencing,
00:00:05 you're the primary overseer of molding this child and raising them and protecting their mind and
00:00:11 guarding them and yet freeing them. And it's just beautiful to watch how children grow and develop.
00:00:18 And the other thing too is a lot of times we think, oh my goodness, my child's not reading
00:00:22 and they're in grade two. And I'm thinking, well, you know what? Children read from I think was
00:00:27 age four to age nine before they actually kind of flourish so what if they're seven and they're eight
00:00:33 and they're nine you know what if they're home and it's a safe place they're going to read they
00:00:38 will read and you know what if they were behind in a subject in grade eight you have grade nine
00:00:45 to catch up it's okay because you've got 13 years to get it all done and if they're really motivated
00:00:51 They can even be done a year early.
00:00:53 Two of my kids were done a year early.
00:01:01 Hello, Action for Canada friends.
00:01:03 We're so glad you've joined us after a week off.
00:01:06 A warm welcome to you.
00:01:08 We're so grateful to have you as a part of our community.
00:01:12 Doris Livingstone will be hosting tonight's show,
00:01:15 and our guest speakers are Dwayne and Jalene Hay.
00:01:18 The title of tonight's show is Homeschooling, the Best and Safest Choice.
00:01:25 It's Wednesday, August 12th, 2026, and this is the Empower Hour.
00:01:31 Here we are in the second week of August already, and a new school season will be starting in just a few short weeks.
00:01:38 We'd like to invite you to take a look at our Homeschool Revolution page,
00:01:42 where we provide help for those of you who are thinking of homeschooling your children this coming September,
00:01:48 whether you're a first-timer or a veteran. Our goal is to assist and support parents,
00:01:54 grandparents and guardians with powerful resources and solutions to counter the assault against our
00:02:01 children that is being committed by the government and education systems. We also provide support and
00:02:07 resources for those of you who will be keeping your children in the school system. Be sure to
00:02:12 head over to the Action for Canada website to take a look at the many resources available to you.
00:02:21 I'm so pleased to introduce you to tonight's host, Doris Livingstone.
00:02:26 Doris is Action for Canada's homeschool lead and a veteran homeschooling mom who began her homeschooling journey in 1995,
00:02:34 shortly after moving to Euclid, B.C. with her husband and three preschool children.
00:02:40 After her husband passed away while the children were still teenagers, Doris continued to homeschool as a single parent until graduation.
00:02:48 And now she's a passionate advocate of homeschooling, promoting it as an adventurous, exciting family life that is truly rewarding for everyone.
00:02:59 Before Doris comes on, I'd like to introduce tonight's guests.
00:03:03 i'm so pleased to introduce tonight's special guest speakers for the past 12 years while
00:03:10 operating a successful home business duane and jolene hay have faithfully homeschooled their
00:03:16 four children and will continue to do so until graduation tonight they're joining us to discuss
00:03:22 why they decided to homeschool some of the challenges they've had to deal with the many
00:03:27 blessings they've experienced and how homeschooling enables parents to tailor each child's education
00:03:34 to their unique learning style, cultivate strong character, develop a biblical worldview,
00:03:40 a healthy work ethic, critical thinking skills, meaningful friendships, and close family
00:03:46 relationships. Thank you, Heather. Thank you very much. And welcome, Dwayne and Jolene Hay.
00:03:53 and return of jolene i had you once on our on our uh webinars on a panel of homeschooling moms
00:04:01 and so it's great to have you both here today um tell us a little bit about how you got started
00:04:08 in homeschooling and uh you know how many years ago that would have been and how might have your
00:04:15 kids been and really what prompted you at the time to to get started a lot of people want to know how
00:04:21 people get started so we let's hear from what you have to say so okay so we started right from
00:04:28 kindergarten with our oldest avon who will be graduating this year so we have our first grad
00:04:33 coming up and um i think there was a lot of you know i definitely didn't come from a homeschooling
00:04:40 background um i was definitely of the camp where i thought homeschooled kids were weirdos you know
00:04:46 as a lot of us think, right? But there was a couple of things that kind of happened all at
00:04:52 the same time when we had our first daughter and we were kind of approaching school age.
00:04:56 And Duane was on the worship team at the church that we were at back in Red Deer. So we lived in
00:05:02 Alberta at the time. And there was one of the girls on the worship team who was homeschooled
00:05:08 and we're like, hey, she's actually like really cool. She's actually very talented and she's
00:05:13 doing amazing things at 16 years old that, you know, when most kids that age don't look an adult
00:05:19 in the eye, she's having these powerful conversations with adults. And we thought,
00:05:23 okay, well, this is, this is different. Not all homeschooled kids are weird. And so that was kind
00:05:27 of like the first little like nudge, the little seed planting, if you will. And then I remember
00:05:32 like we had, we were in a small group with, within our church and one of the moms there who, you know,
00:05:39 she had kids older than our kids and she was just kind of talking about the lifestyle that they had
00:05:46 and it was you know rush to get the kids up in the morning rush to get them to school
00:05:51 pack all the lunches then they get home from school and it's homework and activities and
00:05:55 then bed and then do it all again and I just thought like well when do you actually get to
00:05:59 spend time with your kids when do you get to actually be together because the thought of
00:06:03 just like sending my kids away for somebody else to do the majority of the raising just
00:06:08 didn't really sit well with me. So I think those were kind of the first little pieces that really
00:06:15 kind of opened up the door of the possibility of homeschooling. Yeah, I think I had a friend
00:06:23 who recommended I listen to a Votie Bauckham talk on homeschooling. So if you've never heard
00:06:31 Votie talk about homeschooling, and you're a Christian, go listen to his reasoning behind why
00:06:38 you should consider homeschooling your family. Just a really encouraging look at how God places
00:06:45 the responsibility of the parents for the education of their children.
00:06:50 He places that on us. And so that's not saying that you can't fulfill your role to be responsible
00:06:59 for your kid's education outside of homeschooling, but that homeschooling is maybe a better way to
00:07:06 kind of uh honor god in that responsibility he's put on us to be the mentors and leaders and
00:07:15 trainers and even spiritual guides for for our kids so that that was that votey talk was really
00:07:22 awesome too convicting yeah yeah i think it says in there like if you send your kids to caesar then
00:07:29 why would you expect them to come home with anything other than romans right so um that
00:07:34 was powerful right if we're if we're wanting to raise godly christian children for the kingdom
00:07:39 of god for his glory then i think we need to be the biggest influence into their lives and
00:07:45 homeschooling definitely opens that door to have that you know greatest chance to be effective in
00:07:50 that mission i i agree and i noticed kim put it in the chat the spelling for votey so if you
00:07:57 We want to thank you. Yeah. Then you guys can look it up there. So when you started,
00:08:05 most parents start with enthusiasm. They go to Walmart and they're buying new pencil crayons as
00:08:12 they, you know, everybody does at the school season. And then, you know, you start going,
00:08:16 I don't know if I'm cut out for this, but you're going to courageously go. And
00:08:20 at what point did you realize the struggle started happening and you're going either in the mind
00:08:29 about oh man you're second guessing yourself or is it like no we're doing this but yet you're
00:08:36 having either behavioral issues like with a child on a day or a pattern you see or I don't know just
00:08:42 the house is falling apart like what were some of the earliest challenges and in hindsight now
00:08:48 you look at going I'm glad we overcame some of those or we should have done a better job in you
00:08:55 know maybe one area where it's still showing up those kind of little things yes I mean picking
00:09:02 curriculum is always a overwhelming it's overwhelming because there's so many options
00:09:08 out there and each kid is so different and their learning styles are so different so it definitely
00:09:14 can be overwhelming and but it's a good problem like the homeschooling world is so heavily
00:09:20 resourced with so many options it's it's limitless but when you're just entering in it's a little
00:09:27 daunting yeah choose which path you're going to take I think also for us we didn't have anybody
00:09:33 really in our circle that was homeschooling we didn't have like we kind of didn't really have
00:09:38 a lot of friends with kids first of all and not really any of them that were homeschooling
00:09:42 And then when we when we actually started, I'm pretty sure we started kindergarten in BC. So we had to move in there, too. So we were kind of starting completely fresh. And one of the things that I did right away was try to plug into community in whatever way that I can and find the people that had kind of come before me, because there's so much to learn from asking questions of others who have gone before you.
00:10:05 you can learn about what's worked for them what didn't work um what like be encouraged when you're
00:10:12 having doubts right because of course those doubts will come in and and um make you question
00:10:18 everything that you're doing and um so definitely finding that community and i think i think 12 years
00:10:24 ago when we were getting started 12 13 years ago it definitely was a bit more challenging to find
00:10:29 that community for us especially in a new town but um yeah it's it's definitely one of the biggest
00:10:34 blessings that we have found over the years too, is, is finding that mentorship and yeah.
00:10:41 And it's great to see Action for Canada is kind of bridging the gap there and helping people
00:10:45 find what's in their community that they can get connected to. Um, one, I think early hurdle for me
00:10:52 was, um, this idea that homeschooling is supposed to look exactly like traditional school,
00:11:00 just at your home and so the way we you know put the child at the table the way we taught
00:11:06 sort of the the way we would structure the time that we would focus on the subject
00:11:12 kind of the level of sit still and pay attention that you're looking for from the kid
00:11:19 those kinds of things didn't really happen super easily with our first child and it was really
00:11:25 encouraging to have someone go like don't try to recreate a classroom environment when you're
00:11:30 homeschooling like you're homeschooling so it can be whatever you want and you can tailor it to the
00:11:36 child and um especially between kindergarten and grade three like the world's your oyster you can
00:11:43 teach math while you're going to the grocery store and doing your running your daily errands
00:11:48 And you don't need, you know, six hours a day to teach your kid, you know, for the first few years of homeschooling.
00:11:56 It's very much just do life together, go have experiences.
00:12:01 And once we kind of allowed that freedom to come in and that freedom to, hey, if you pick a curriculum and it's really not clicking and it's just a battle for you, they're not having fun.
00:12:13 There's a thousand other options out there.
00:12:15 go try something different or ask around see what's worked for other people so like
00:12:19 yeah year to year subject to subject child to child you have that customizability that you
00:12:26 should take advantage of and not feel like you're stuck in a box where you're standing up at the
00:12:30 whiteboard and writing stuff down and they should be sitting quietly in their chair paying attention
00:12:35 i totally relate to that and i would especially after lunch when the afternoon slump starts and
00:12:47 kicks in and most adults need their coffee and the kids kind of like start checking out too
00:12:53 and i would look at my kids and there's this glaze and i'm going they're done so yeah duane you are
00:13:00 right when they're very young, you can be done everything by noon. And yeah, the attention span
00:13:08 is very short, the younger they are. And depending on what it is, of course.
00:13:15 One of the phrases that was really big when I was homeschooling was delight-directed studies.
00:13:24 And what delights the heart is areas worth studying.
00:13:30 So my oldest, for example, loved horses.
00:13:33 My middle one was all about videos and cameras and pictures.
00:13:37 And my youngest was all about music.
00:13:39 And so I'll just go back to horses, for example.
00:13:43 She was about grade seven.
00:13:44 And I could tailor her writing assignment around some research she did on horses.
00:13:52 she could cover science we she started breeding miniature hamsters and so she started learning
00:14:01 gene coding and if you have this gene and this gene from this kind of hamsters you can create
00:14:06 these hamsters and then she started a little business and started selling these little mini
00:14:11 hamsters in our little town at the time and but it's what delighted her and it motivated her to
00:14:17 learn and so she's reading she's writing um you're covering your science some of it covered some math
00:14:29 and uh i really loved watching their light come on in their mind when you finally found the thing
00:14:39 that they love now for other kids it could be uh mechanics it could be um sports or hockey
00:14:48 or it could be um cooking um something that just ignites them and well that's what i loved about
00:14:55 tailoring their education is um finding something that just struck the heart i'm sure tell us tell
00:15:04 us a little bit about what you've noticed in your own kids you have four kids and i'm sure
00:15:09 Are they each uniquely different?
00:15:11 And how do you do that with your kids?
00:15:15 Yeah, it's a little bit different with each one.
00:15:19 It's, I think with our youngest, we're noticing out of all the kids,
00:15:24 he's probably the one who's kind of gravitated towards like the science stuff.
00:15:28 And he's our big reader, I would say, out of everybody,
00:15:32 where just reading is sort of his default.
00:15:34 and um he even from probably age five or six um he fell in love with a science book that was
00:15:41 um like an encyclopedia of the human body with like detailed layer by layer kind of like the
00:15:48 circulatory system the muscular system the skeletal system the digestive system so he's
00:15:54 just flipping through the pages and he's like i love my body book and like i'm gonna go read my
00:15:59 body book and couldn't get enough of it and so um it was interesting to to find ways to just
00:16:06 encourage him down the path of human anatomy and who knows where that where that might take him
00:16:11 um you know whereas uh i would say our our second youngest she is probably more of our
00:16:19 artistic one um so she's really into coloring drawing um making crafts you know even like
00:16:27 rainbow loom and uh she's getting into knitting and things like that and so seeing that develop
00:16:33 to the point where she's like getting into making blankets and things and so uh and then the older
00:16:39 two um you know it just gives them the freedom to like hey if you're interested in like small
00:16:46 engines grandpa's going to show you how to change the oil on the quad today kind of thing and and
00:16:51 they could do that together um or like wants to go out hunting let's grab the pellet gun and see
00:16:57 what you can find in the in the in the bush kind of thing and um yeah i don't know what would you
00:17:02 say well i would say um everything is a learning opportunity and you're right when you can find and
00:17:08 cater what um what you're doing and what they're passionate about that for sure makes life a whole
00:17:14 lot easier. And for our for our third, she's had a real struggle with learning to read and enjoying
00:17:22 it. And it's it's just like we butt heads all the time. It's been very challenging. And then this
00:17:27 year, we discovered a writing program that did just what you're talking about, where it gets them
00:17:32 to be super creative and to be able to just get be Yeah, just just it really light lit up that
00:17:39 creative spark in her. And all of a sudden she really likes writing and she struggled with
00:17:45 reading, but now we'll have an audio book playing for her while she's knitting. So she gets that
00:17:50 opportunity to be creative and working with her hands, which does well for her, but she's still
00:17:54 taking in a story, which my preference is still always for like an actual book as opposed to
00:18:02 anything audio or video, but it is definitely a good support, especially for those kids that you
00:18:06 have that may be struggling with it. And for her, we found even just like reading along with an
00:18:13 audio book has just brought her so much further ahead with her reading and spelling and everything
00:18:19 improves once they're starting to just see more of that. But I think in a lot of it, when you're
00:18:23 having kind of some of those struggles, it's like, give them time. And like, they'll catch up and just
00:18:29 keep supporting them and seeking those ways that work for that particular child. Because, yeah,
00:18:35 they unfortunately i've always said it would be so great if you had a baby and it was like baby
00:18:40 placenta and then a manual for your specific child but that's just not really the way that
00:18:45 it works so it's kind of like we have to um it's a lot of trial and error right and and really
00:18:51 i think yeah working with your individual child and their needs and yeah what they love
00:18:56 yeah um i know you talked about curriculum earlier and it can be overwhelming and uh
00:19:05 at the end folks i was i'm going to put out a link to our our website so that you can
00:19:11 um click on for information and curriculum seems to be very core in the summer as we prepare
00:19:20 august september and as we want to be ready for september and if it feels overwhelming
00:19:26 there are people with a lot of experience who who sell the curriculum and you can talk to them
00:19:32 and even better yet in in the new year and into the spring is when each province runs their
00:19:38 homeschool conventions and so with your experience Jalene you typically go to these conventions
00:19:45 what is your takeaway about how to sort of sift through curriculum or learning resources like all
00:19:54 of it yes okay so um first off I want to talk about the conventions because I think that those
00:19:59 are really important and to just address the fact that by the time these conventions come up it's
00:20:04 usually like April May is kind of when they seem to all pop up at that point in the year we've just
00:20:10 come through winter we're all a little done homeschooling and I promise you like every
00:20:14 single year I've been like what am I doing am I doing the right thing why am I here like have I
00:20:19 made a crucial mistake and then you go to these conferences and you're reminded this is why you
00:20:24 chose to homeschool this is what the work that you're doing is um leading to right and so for
00:20:30 me it's just like that soul-filling reminder that I'm like okay stick with it there's a reason for
00:20:35 it but yes at these at these conventions oftentimes you're there's just so much to sift through and so
00:20:42 um I still feel like in a lot of ways like now I feel like already four years like four kids later
00:20:50 and in our oldest in grade 12,
00:20:53 we're kind of just really starting to find some resources
00:20:56 that we really, really love.
00:20:58 And so we've had a lot of trial and error
00:21:00 and these conventions can absolutely be so overwhelming.
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00:23:52 To be able to kind of have some tools and resources to be able to understand what your kids
00:23:58 are needing and actually here's kind of an interesting thing that i did some people work
00:24:02 really really well if they have a support teacher that that can be really beneficial if you're
00:24:06 working with a support and they can help pick they can help pick curricular and make recommendations
00:24:10 for you but i actually um had kind of a weird techie experience now this is going to be weird
00:24:16 for homeschoolers i'm sure but we live in a world now where there is technology out there that can
00:24:20 really help us narrow things down so i actually did a couple of tests with one of my kids because
00:24:25 she has some learning challenges, and just a really unique brain. And for me, that was the
00:24:30 hardest part. And like, what do I do with this super unique brain? How do I get her to engage
00:24:34 in learning? What's going to work well for her? Because I don't want to spend money on all these
00:24:38 resources that I don't use, right? And so I actually put these tests through chat GPT. And
00:24:43 I was like, Hey, what would you do with this brain? These are the likes, these are the interests,
00:24:46 these are like, how do I work, help me sort through some curriculum. And it actually popped
00:24:51 up some really great resources and just kind of I can fine tune it again to be able to narrow down
00:24:57 things that really work but I use that as a resource this year and I found it very beneficial
00:25:02 because I found a math program that I had never heard of before that really does seem to suit
00:25:06 her specific brain and so yeah there's just today there's so many opportunities and resources and
00:25:13 ways of narrowing down what really works for your specific child so I find when going into
00:25:20 these conferences to have a list of what it is that you're looking for um because you can save
00:25:25 a lot of money at them with like shipping and and if you go to the Alberta conference which I usually
00:25:29 do then you're not paying the PST and actually I think sometimes it's not included on books but
00:25:34 anyways um yeah it's just a it can be overwhelming so going in with a list and being prepared is
00:25:39 helpful yeah I would agree with all of that I would go to a convention actually very excited
00:25:48 I'd go with some friends of mine, girlfriends who homeschooled in B.C., and we'd go and have a weekend there, and I'd come out recharged going, I know why I'm doing this.
00:26:00 One of the things I would encourage anybody starting, and even those who were in it, and particularly those even who perhaps pulled their child out from a school system, whether it's public or private,
00:26:15 and you're in that first and second year and you're wondering, like, I don't know about this
00:26:21 and you're feeling discouraged, just write down your reasons why you started and maybe have a
00:26:25 sticky note either on your fridge or on your mirror and look at that often. Because sometimes
00:26:32 you just need a little reminders like this is why we're doing what we're doing. And then get
00:26:38 yourself to a convention. Surround yourself with like-minded people. And again, at the link at the
00:26:44 I'll show you how to find your your provincial support groups and we got them like we have
00:26:50 chapters that with Action for Canada we have regional support groups and community homeschool
00:26:55 communities for kids and for for parents who connect and you can find new friend groups you
00:27:02 can find like-minded people surround yourself so that you can have conversations and share ideas
00:27:09 on on how to do certain either subjects or certain discipline issues that perhaps that might be
00:27:16 happening in the home and how do you overcome things and and just yeah have your people around
00:27:21 you that I think is really really important um to sort of go on day after day year after year
00:27:28 and then you look back and going wow I did another year and it really wasn't so bad you know um I'd
00:27:35 like to switch a little bit over to laying the foundation in the home for success, discipline
00:27:41 in the home. And what I mean by that is the disciplines of the home, the routines. So for
00:27:47 example, one of the routines I established at the morning was the dishwasher had to be emptied,
00:27:55 breakfast had to be, we had to finish eating it, everybody at once, we had to clean up the dishes,
00:28:02 the beds had to be made um if there was any sort of business call that had to happen that day
00:28:12 because we had home businesses as well I tried to do them either before nine or after three
00:28:18 if possible this is before cell phones so nowadays you can text um what kind of establishments do you
00:28:26 have in your home to sort of set the tone for the day? How do you make your breaks? How do you
00:28:33 resume school after lunch? Sort of what's important? We're probably a little more loose than what you
00:28:44 made it sound like your family does. And I think that's going to be a little different for every
00:28:50 family um what one thing i like about what you said is that when you're using the same place
00:28:57 that you live and you eat and you sleep and you relax and your schooling is all happening in the
00:29:02 same place having some semblance of organization cleanup everybody work together to kind of take
00:29:09 care of the space and set it up so that you can have some focus time for learning goes a really
00:29:15 long way as opposed to try to bring your learning on top of you know tv's running in the background
00:29:21 dishes are piled up in the sink it's just makes it tougher to tougher to focus and so um i would
00:29:27 say like our kids are really good at dishes by this point and and uh that has been a real big
00:29:34 thing that we can lean on them for and it's not always done with joy and glee but uh you know we
00:29:40 set the tone for this is a responsibility of a member of this family to help care for the space
00:29:45 at this point like everybody can cook their own food and stuff so you know like our our youngest
00:29:52 you know when he was probably six years old he could fry an egg and make some toast and get his
00:29:56 breakfast going kind of thing so having everybody I would say up and up and out of bed and getting
00:30:02 ready for the day getting breakfast done so that you know at least by say 9 9 30 we're getting
00:30:09 schooling started and then probably go for a couple hours and we call it a brain break that
00:30:17 will come at times where they'll just be like mom i need to take a break because that frustration
00:30:21 can pile up a little bit sometimes um and so little brain breaks so you might have like a
00:30:27 mini recess even before lunch and then come back and complete so we almost do it i would say by
00:30:33 subjects like yeah subject one brain break subject to break and then lunch break we'll say
00:30:40 i would also say the our days that go the best are the days that we start with um bible study
00:30:48 i think that those are our best days because it just kind of sets the tone we have a moment of
00:30:53 like um i think just family worship it's just it's i don't know it just sets the whole tone for the
00:30:58 the best day I think so the days that we do that seem to be the best days um and then oftentimes
00:31:05 what we'll do for breaks is um because I can't be with everybody all at once and there have been
00:31:10 times where we've done curriculum where it's like we're all learning together and that works really
00:31:14 well and I love those types of curriculums um but sometimes that's not what we're doing and it is
00:31:19 more individualized so I will have one person working on something independently and then I'm
00:31:23 working with another one one-on-one because some kids just need more guidance I guess in that
00:31:29 interaction with mom as they get older they tend to get a bit more independent with these types of 0.64
00:31:34 things so that like our oldest is super independent so she can just like we can trust her to just get
00:31:41 it all done and she's very disciplined with her with our studies our two middles would not would 0.98
00:31:48 be less that more hand holding there yeah holding with them so it just yeah it depends but um so
00:31:54 i'll just have them doing different things but we definitely have a rule like there's no screens
00:31:58 um other than if they're using a screen for a learning experience but there's no screens in
00:32:03 the mornings ever ever ever because their brains just turn to mush if that door even opens and so
00:32:09 yeah just kind of some and then yeah they get to play when this work is done right so yeah
00:32:18 Yeah, I just found that it so I like order in that I need to know where my stuff is. So like the scissor goes back in the drawer where the scissor goes. You know, certain things are just predictable, you can find them. And I found that if I had every room was a mess, I couldn't start school until something was resolved.
00:32:46 And one of the tips that I was told at a convention was try to keep one room in the house that's not full of toys and full of clutter, and so you're not stepping on everything.
00:33:00 Especially when you've got very young kids, they tend to just pick up a toy and drop it as they walk around the house, taking everything apart, right?
00:33:08 And that would be hard if you've got, let's say you're starting homeschooling and you've got a five or six year old and you're getting started and you've got a two or three year old dropping toys and you've got a nursing baby and you're exhausted and sleepy.
00:33:23 But.
00:33:25 Even those tiny little disciplines of just even creating one space for some people, the kitchen, you know, and not that everything has to be immaculate, but I don't know.
00:33:37 it's one of those little things if it helps that person if they're that kind of person and they're
00:33:41 wired like that then that i would set that tone and like you said jillian no screen time in the
00:33:47 morning that's something i would have done too yeah the amount of time and frustration you can
00:33:52 save by not having to look for a pencil or not having to look for your math book or not having
00:33:57 to find that textbook that you need to start the daily that can waste uh 15 20 minutes of like
00:34:03 whining and belly aching and foot dragging when it's just easy and so maybe maybe it could be on
00:34:10 us parents to make sure everything's put away at the end of the day and then once breakfast is done
00:34:16 and cleanup's happening you could go then bring out the stuff and set each person's station up
00:34:20 and go there's your books let's get going and yeah they can do it themselves they can do it
00:34:25 themselves and you can have a coffee while they get their stuff yes like i think one of the biggest
00:34:30 things is like I don't I don't want to raise kids that need me to do the things for them right like
00:34:35 I want to raise independent adults and good humans and so as much as we can um encourage them to be
00:34:43 responsible that's huge like I'm saying I see people making comments about making your bed
00:34:47 absolutely that's such a great like basic basic expectation like make your bed brush your teeth
00:34:54 um clean up your dishes you know yes it definitely does when the when the house isn't chaotic and
00:35:00 cluttered, it definitely makes for more clarity for the day for sure. Yeah. And it's interesting
00:35:07 because we don't consider that homeschooling because it's not directly like the school book
00:35:14 and the reading and the math and all that, but it's the whole child. And that's the beautiful
00:35:20 thing about home education is that you're developing and influencing, you're the primary
00:35:25 overseer of of molding this child and raising them and protecting their mind and guarding them
00:35:33 and yet freeing them and it's just beautiful to watch how children grow and develop and and the
00:35:40 other thing too is a lot of times we think oh my goodness my child's not reading and they're in
00:35:45 grade two and I'm thinking well you know what children read from I think was age four to age
00:35:52 nine before they actually kind of flourish so what if they're seven and they're eight and they're nine
00:35:57 you know what if they're home and it's a safe place they're going to read they will read and
00:36:03 you know what if they were behind in a subject in grade eight you have grade nine to catch up
00:36:10 it's okay because you've got 13 years to get it all done and if they're really motivated they can
00:36:18 even be done a year early two of my kids were done a year early and then they have a gap year
00:36:24 to do other things and which we'll get into shortly here as well um how can dads be involved
00:36:34 duane if you want to speak into that what's what how do you find your role in your homeschool
00:36:39 well um i think the first thing that comes to mind is that there it's a heavy burden to be
00:36:49 the parent who um initiates and sits with and walks through the um step-by-step of doing the
00:36:59 going through the resource that you're doing with each child each day which most of the time is
00:37:04 Jaleen. And there are times where she just gets burnt out, like there could be pushback from the
00:37:11 kids, like they don't want to do it today, or they're struggling with something in math, or,
00:37:16 you know, oh, do I have to do seven pages? I always only do four pages. Why do I have to do seven?
00:37:22 And so you can see why God made it such that you need, that it's ideal to have a wife and a husband,
00:37:33 a mother and a father because there are times where you need that that backup voice you need
00:37:38 that kind of voice of authority where i think god has gifted dads with just um sort of an
00:37:46 authoritative role where when when we step in and say like um if your mom says you're doing seven
00:37:52 pages it's seven pages so quit your belly aching and let's get to it sometimes like that's my role
00:37:59 to just come in and support and keep keep keep them focused keep the wheels moving keep us
00:38:04 going forward um and then there can be times where there's just like you know because of that
00:38:12 that sort of um reluctance to actually do the work there can be behavior stuff that crops up
00:38:20 and they're just so almost looking for like a negative attention outlet where they'll try to
00:38:26 push mom's buttons because anything but doing school even if that means getting in a fight
00:38:30 with mom and so it can be really helpful to to have dad there to say like that's my wife don't
00:38:37 talk to her like that get back to work kind of thing so it can be helpful to have that second
00:38:42 voice there um to be the disciplinarian and to keep things focused and then even just to like
00:38:50 i i always really um loved learning and thought i would teach kind of thing and i've done different
00:38:58 like i was a lifeguard and swim instructor for a while i was a flight instructor and taught
00:39:03 taught meteorology and and flying lessons and so i've taught different things along the way so
00:39:08 i enjoy taking things that i know and sharing them with other people and seeing them get it
00:39:14 and so it's it's fun sometimes to go okay you sit with him while he does his language arts
00:39:19 and i'll sit with her while she does her math and spend half an hour kind of dividing and
00:39:25 conquering like that um yeah i think the first things i can think of i think also he makes it
00:39:31 sound like he's a major disciplinarian which doris i'm sure you can imagine he's actually
00:39:36 super fun too so he also gets to be fun dad so he's not just like coming in with an iron rod he's
00:39:41 he's the fun dad and he teaches them a lot of life skills as well and so whether that's like
00:39:46 getting out there with the boys, especially like, okay, today we're going to learn how to mow the
00:39:49 lawn or we're going to learn how to do this or that, or we're going to go for a hike or, you know,
00:39:53 those kinds of adventure type of stuff too. I think he's really great for that type of stuff
00:39:58 or taking them up snowshoeing or whatever, those kinds of things. And then also I love it. I really
00:40:06 love it when Dwayne leads like the Bible study in the morning. I feel like the kids just take
00:40:11 so much, they listen so much better and it's just different when dad is speaking, right?
00:40:16 And so, um, yeah, it's definitely a partnership and there's sometimes where I'm kind of like,
00:40:20 you know what, I'll take the, I'll take the curriculum.
00:40:22 Cause I'm in a process of like working through this and I know where we're at and you might
00:40:26 not know how to quite teach it as well.
00:40:28 So I prefer sometimes if he does some of that other stuff, but, um, yeah, anyways, yeah,
00:40:36 it's good to have that balance to bounce off of each other where we need them.
00:40:39 And yeah.
00:40:40 And there is so much other stuff.
00:40:43 There is.
00:40:43 And if there's days where I'm away to like, he will be able to step in because we also have a business as well. And sometimes it requires some travel or I need to be away for certain periods. So he's great to step in and make sure everything gets done too. So yeah, when we lived in our little tourist town, come spring, you know, motivation for school starts waning. And that was predictable. And I got into a cycle by spring by April, end of April.
00:41:13 We were done school by noon on many days because tourism started and my kids, because they were already freed up and available, picked up the jobs after lunch.
00:41:25 And they work one day, two days a week at an after school, maybe after 12 type of a job.
00:41:33 and uh so you know they're starting to branch out into the next thing of um learning how to own a
00:41:41 job and how to um be responsible and be on time and so all those things we're teaching them when
00:41:48 they're young start to really become important as they become young adults and move into
00:41:57 the adulting years yeah so yeah did you want to speak to that well it just reminded me of
00:42:05 some of the young men i know who are tradesmen and you know they're they're say in their early
00:42:10 30s and they're a tile guy or they're a um plumber or an electrician or something like that and they
00:42:18 started apprenticing when they were 15 16 because they could get their schooling done in the morning
00:42:23 and then go to work with dad or go to work with uncle or grandpa or, you know, find someone who
00:42:28 would take them under their wing. So if there is like, you know, sort of a skill that a boy or
00:42:37 girl is interested in, they can look for a pathway to really dive into that. A lot of the first
00:42:42 homeschoolers that really piqued my interest were all musicians. And these were ones who
00:42:47 fell in love with their instrument in, you know, their early teens. And so by the time they were
00:42:52 18 they already had 10 000 hours on the violin or the keyboard or vocalist or guitar player kind of
00:42:59 thing and and we're just like well-rounded intelligent um kids who could carry on a great
00:43:06 conversation with any adult in any situation and and even though they were just you know 17 18 19
00:43:12 or whatever it kind of had that maturity of most 25 year olds kind of thing and i'm like if this
00:43:17 is what homeschooling kids can do and can put their time in instead of wasting eight hours a
00:43:23 day in a classroom and hanging out with everyone who's exactly the same age as them. And, you know,
00:43:30 just do the bare minimum until you graduate. That really piqued my interest on, yeah, what you might
00:43:36 be able to do as a homeschooler. Yeah. Yeah. Like going back to the things that delighted their
00:43:43 hearts when they were young is still interestingly the same thing that delights them now and they're
00:43:49 in their 30s and like so my middle child was into yeah um photography and and videos and pictures
00:44:00 and if I lost something she always knew where it was because it's like she knew where everything
00:44:04 was in the house and today well let's go back during her high school years I had asked one of
00:44:11 our local photographers to mentor her take her in once a week show her something or take her along
00:44:18 to a photo shoot she did weddings at the on the coast at the time and so my daughter would just
00:44:23 tag along and learn and so and today this is she's gone back to her first love now she's a
00:44:28 photographer so it's you you got to pay attention to those little things that just excites them and
00:44:35 I love watching that flourish in a child and they may have two or three things that they're really
00:44:41 loving. And so just sort of opening up the doors and the opportunities and the people in their
00:44:49 life that can build that, whether, like you said, a grandpa or an uncle, taking them along to a
00:44:55 work site or building something in the shed together, such great opportunities of learning
00:45:00 and building relationships at the same time. And one of the things that I would say too,
00:45:07 is that where homeschooling really shines is that I don't think that our kids need to be jackable
00:45:12 trades. Like they don't have to be mediocre at everything, or they don't have to be good at
00:45:15 everything. But if they are really good at this one particular area, like let's kind of direct
00:45:21 them that way and get them into a mentorship or get them trying out practical skills with this
00:45:27 specific talent that they have. And that's the beauty of homeschooling. You don't have to be
00:45:32 like by the time that they graduate they can be if the kid is excited about something and you know
00:45:37 where they're going they could be already like launched into a business right like our son who's
00:45:43 going into grade 10 right now he's like he's not my academic kid my first one is like i'm dogwood
00:45:48 all the way i want to go to university or college or do something like that after um but our son i'm
00:45:54 like i don't think that's his path right so i would love to just kind of cater more to like
00:45:59 he's probably going to be our business guy so let's focus on like what does it take to run a
00:46:02 business what does it take to what are you interested in let's start developing these
00:46:06 types of things right and so to be able to um to be able to have that flexibility to really hone in
00:46:12 on those skills and who they are going to be because I don't want my kids to like like how
00:46:17 many kids go through university and at the end of four or eight years they still don't know what
00:46:21 they're going to do right and not like not to get into like all of how terrible universities are and
00:46:27 stuff because that's a whole other topic but um yeah it's it's we have a lot more opportunity for
00:46:34 them um but yeah that's a benefit of homeschooling absolutely um as you're preparing your oldest for
00:46:44 post-secondary it sounds like um i i've got a few ideas of how people can enter uh universities
00:46:53 colleges um what are your what kind of things can parents do in the senior high years to prepare
00:47:01 them for that next level as a as a homeschool child how do they get into those places well
00:47:08 i she's doing a dogwood so getting in i think for her won't be an issue and even if you did
00:47:13 a traditional homeschooling and you didn't do the like bc and she she's done it through hcos and
00:47:20 she's done like more of a christian route which was super important to us like the whole secular
00:47:25 public education system was never on the table um so that won't be an issue my my concern with 0.83
00:47:33 going into that path is is she ready for that is she is she equipped to be able to handle what the
00:47:39 world is going to throw at her and so um focusing on her heart where she is with the lord and her
00:47:45 walk with the Lord, I think is the most important thing we can do with our kids and for our kids
00:47:50 to equip them as they, I mean, we want them to step out as independent adults. We want them to
00:47:56 walk into these situations and be able to stand firm with who they are in Christ, right? And so
00:48:04 for us, my heart for her, and she is like probably the most, if you think I am a strong independent
00:48:11 woman oh my goodness i am raising one as well so we kind of do not necessarily see eye to eye on
00:48:18 how this works but my heart for her would be to take some time in a i like she loves to travel
00:48:24 so i'm like well you want to travel let's do a overseas bible program for a year where you can
00:48:31 really come to term with faith on your own this is your first stepping out experience
00:48:35 out from under our wing but like have her grow her faith before she enters any kind of a
00:48:41 an institution of hopefully would have a Christian worldview to it because there's some
00:48:47 there's some scary ones so there's a lot of conversations there's a lot of prayer that
00:48:51 goes into this and but ultimately one day we're just going to have to like okay God like we've
00:48:57 done all that we can just yeah I pray that you just you know take our child and raise them up
00:49:04 to be the adult that you've intended them to be right so but but if you're asking like how how do
00:49:11 you plan on doing post-secondary education if you're homeschooling how how does one make that
00:49:16 happen um like you were explaining there is the there is the satisfy the requirements of the
00:49:22 curriculum and get enough credits get a high school diploma that's your kind of entrance into
00:49:28 the post-secondary education so you can do that through homeschooling that's that's really easy
00:49:33 to do um we have found our local homeschooling organization heritage christian online schools
00:49:40 is a very large organization in bc and there should be something like that in each province
00:49:45 where they can help um advise you that path then if you decided to be outside of that curriculum
00:49:54 and you're kind of going your own path and you have you know an 18 year old student who's been
00:49:58 homeschooled to grade 12 and but you don't have like a transcript or a um a traditional diploma
00:50:05 to apply to those schools with um what what we've been encouraged with by a lot of other
00:50:10 homeschooling families is that post-secondary there's great post-secondary institutions who
00:50:15 love homeschooling kids and love their their independent minds and they want to help you
00:50:20 find a pathway to get into their school so talk to that school and there's often like take a
00:50:25 semester where you just complete this math course this science course this language arts course and
00:50:31 now you've got your boxes checked so you can kind of enter into your first year of your university
00:50:36 program so there is that that kind of a plan where even you know me when I went into post-secondary
00:50:43 I still needed to kind of oh I need to up my math to this and I need to up my science to this in
00:50:48 order to enter into the program that I was taking so that's happening even with a lot of students
00:50:54 who do have a diploma you still need to do that that touch-up semester in your in your college
00:50:59 or university so I think using that same method even without a diploma is is possible yeah it is
00:51:05 actually possible because two of my three kids graduated without the provincial what do you call
00:51:15 diploma and so um but they were granted a homeschool equivalency certificate and um by by
00:51:24 the school that they were registered through now this is in bc each province is a little bit
00:51:29 different on what's required and what um sort of ways to graduate there are but other ways can be
00:51:40 creating a portfolio of all the things you've sort of covered and learned from grade 10 11 12
00:51:48 some provinces it might just be grade 11 12 some are grade 10 11 12 and then what my oldest did to
00:51:56 get herself this was about two years after high school she wanted to go to the local university 0.85
00:52:03 and she wrote them a letter because she was missing, I think, one course or something to
00:52:09 get in. So she wrote a letter convincing them why they needed her. And it worked.
00:52:18 Awesome.
00:52:19 And they let her in. Yeah. So you've got to think outside of the box and homeschooling
00:52:24 is like that already. You gather all your tools, you ask a lot of questions, you inquire, like,
00:52:30 let's say they want to go to university in, I don't know, New Brunswick or Ontario or something
00:52:36 like that. What are the requirements over there? And like you said, Dwayne, many schools
00:52:42 actually allot a percentage of space to allow homeschoolers into their schools because they
00:52:51 know they are self-directed learners. They have proven that they are passing and graduating at
00:52:59 at high level scores and they're great students and so the path has been laid and it's just a
00:53:08 matter of asking a lot of questions and at the end again I'll show you our link to those who
00:53:15 are watching right now as to how to find your provincial support your provincial group that
00:53:22 foundation of your province and from there you they have all the information on whether you're
00:53:29 looking for curriculum or how to graduate your child or how to get them into post-secondary
00:53:33 education another way is to start at a college level and then do two years of college and then
00:53:42 transfer all that into a university oftentimes people go to university these kids and they're
00:53:48 overwhelmed because it's another world and they're like this isn't what i want to do at all and so
00:53:54 i spent way more money at that level instead of just starting at a college level and then moving
00:54:01 in a direction because oftentimes you shift your your your path or your major a little bit this
00:54:08 way or you're going no that's it this is so not my thing i know i've experienced that twice
00:54:13 in my secondary journey and it's all part of the learning curve and so as parents it is
00:54:21 we we can help our kids a lot by guiding them in those senior years there
00:54:27 I want to talk real quick about single parenting before we wrap up many of you know my story my
00:54:36 husband was killed in a tragic accident when my kids were in junior high. And so I was left
00:54:43 trying to figure out how to homeschool my kids. And we had desired in the earliest years that
00:54:51 they would graduate from homeschooling. And so that was something that I was very passionate
00:54:57 about. And we did successfully graduate them all through home education. But part of what
00:55:07 motivated me was I had that underlying path and desire and knowledge to finish this journey we
00:55:18 were on because I to the core believed in my path and I had a network in place I had we didn't move
00:55:29 we just stayed where we lived because the network of other homeschooling families was already around
00:55:35 us and I called on many people to sort of help with some of the load and share the load of whether
00:55:45 it was the extracurricular stuff or it was the after-school activities or sports or whatever.
00:55:55 So a lot of parents came and helped me. But I think having that network as a single parent,
00:56:04 whether it's through divorce, death, or if you're in that limbo stage, you're going through a
00:56:12 journey and you are left with the children and nothing's resolved in your life yet but you still
00:56:16 believe in homeschooling have you heard of any successes in your current network of people
00:56:25 where you're seeing people thrive as single parents yeah absolutely and we um we're a part
00:56:33 of a co-op we're actually part of two co-ops this year and um one is new one we've done for a couple
00:56:38 of years and within that one that we've done for a couple years is last year two of our grads from
00:56:44 that program were raised by single moms and so I think like you said Doris having that community
00:56:49 is so important because you're not meant to be an island on this journey our kids thrive in
00:56:55 community and we like I thrive in community so being in a parent-led co-op for me and our kids
00:57:03 was extremely beneficial because you're, you're just kind of, you're, you're spreading out that
00:57:09 load. And especially as a single parent, being able to have other moms come along besides you
00:57:16 and just like, Hey, I need help today. Will you help me out? And I think that we have an opportunity
00:57:22 to serve one another and love one another and help like raise up our kids. And not just, I think so
00:57:29 many people kind of when they start out on this journey, they picture homeschooling or home
00:57:34 education as just this lonely thing or this isolated thing. And will my kids lack socialization?
00:57:40 And I just, it can be like that, but it doesn't have to be. That's a choice, right? And
00:57:46 sometimes it takes a lot more effort to find these types of communities. And if there isn't
00:57:51 one around you, then start one, because I promise there's other families that are not liking
00:57:56 what they're seeing happening in the system who desire to have their kids home but aren't sure
00:58:01 how to do it and to be able to spread it out like I don't I don't teach my kids science because we
00:58:06 do that at a co-op right so I don't feel like I have to do everything all on my own right to be
00:58:11 able to kind of spread that that out is is huge and it just takes that weight right off and yeah
00:58:17 so we've seen a lot of single moms and it's like it's a beautiful thing to be able to help support
00:58:22 those moms in raising up these kids and we do a lot of extracurricular things together as well
00:58:27 with whether it's a beach day or a field trip or whatever camping we do a camping trip every year
00:58:33 so these are kinds of things that are so good for the kids they're so good for for the families and
00:58:39 yeah I just want to encourage anyone who is a single parent looking to homeschool your kids
00:58:44 it is absolutely possible and I just encourage you yeah reach out find the resources find the
00:58:51 people and find your community yeah because there's there's also that pressure of they have
00:58:55 to work and so again thinking outside of the box is do you have to work the current job you're in
00:59:02 or is there another way to make income and you have you do have to work at it and you do have
00:59:09 to find how to find that place but and if it doesn't happen that first year and you're still
00:59:16 feeling strongly about homeschooling, I believe it will come together in its time when it's
00:59:22 supposed to happen. Can you talk a little bit about what a co-op is? Yeah, so a co-op would be
00:59:29 like a one day a week, two days a week. It depends on how you are running it or how it's being run
00:59:36 in your area. But for our particular one, we have, it's not a drop-off program. There are drop-off
00:59:43 programs where your kids are taught in kind of more like a school system method. But the way
00:59:49 that ours works is that there's a number of different families involved. Each one of the
00:59:53 parents teaches a class or two classes. We have a number of different classes set up. I think we've
00:59:58 got about 50 kids in our one co-op and it's kind of set into four different levels of classes.
01:00:06 And so they come through and the teachers come in and the parents come in and they teach a class
01:00:10 every day and um or yeah they teach one of the classes each mom teaches for one hour a day yeah
01:00:16 so it's really nice because the other seven hours the moms are hanging out with each other they're
01:00:21 talking they're asking each other questions they're praying together they're laughing they're
01:00:25 making making lunch for the kids to to break and eat so that's like the parent-led co-op model
01:00:31 one day a week um so even if you had to work full-time hours you might be able to work your
01:00:37 week out where you know ours is on a friday so say the job that you work might be monday to thursday
01:00:43 and saturday and then fridays you're a co-op sundays you're at church and have a day of rest
01:00:48 with your family so that's the parent land co-op there's um in our town there is a teacher co-op
01:00:55 that you you pay a bit say 700 bucks or 500 bucks a kid and teachers are hired to run the co-op so
01:01:03 it's a drop-off pickup program that is one day a week and in both co-op scenarios the parent-led
01:01:11 one there's very low very low cost like less than a hundred dollars a year but you are giving of
01:01:19 your time to the other students and the other families in exchange for that that environment
01:01:25 so there's those two co-op formats that you know if you're lucky you'll have one of those in your
01:01:33 area but like jolene said if there's not a parent led co-op start one up maybe like with three
01:01:38 families you might be able to teach you know an hour and a half a day or hour 45 a day and the
01:01:45 other moms do the same and then you've got a six hour day you know with three families and
01:01:50 everybody's having a great time and you're building community so it's not that hard to do
01:01:54 and it seems like every year it's sort of what what what's uh which which class do you want to
01:02:01 teach. Sometimes it's two moms on the same class. So the bar is very low. You get to tag team it
01:02:08 with another mom. And so it feels like the pressure's off you a little bit, I guess.
01:02:13 Says the guy who doesn't actually teach the classes, right? But it's funny.
01:02:16 He has stepped in. I taught art last year for the younger ones and he did great.
01:02:22 And we did a Bible class.
01:02:24 Yeah, we did do a Bible class. But the cool thing is like, it's your kids. It's your vision for what
01:02:31 their education looks like. And so you really have the opportunity to create something that works for
01:02:36 you and works for your family. So maybe that is just like, maybe if you are a single mom, maybe
01:02:41 you have something worked out where it's like you have another single mom and you teach one day and
01:02:45 she teaches the other day and you can kind of work in between there, right? So there's so much 0.54
01:02:49 flexibility that if you're just a little bit creative, if you have that vision, and I truly
01:02:54 believe that this is a desire that is in your heart. If you are praying to God to say like,
01:02:58 I want to homeschool my kids, make it happen. I, I honestly believe that that is a prayer that he
01:03:03 will answer because he sees your heart. He knows your, you love your child more than anybody in
01:03:09 the entire world. And, um, he wants to help you with that. Right. So I, I, you know, where there's
01:03:15 a will, there's a way, be creative. Don't ever say like, I can't do it. Right. As soon as you're
01:03:21 saying those things, that's, what's going to happen. So just, yeah, if just be creative,
01:03:25 be flexible um there's ways out there right and um don't do it alone tap into the resources that
01:03:31 you guys have for action for canada that's a great place to start and yeah we want to encourage you
01:03:37 all well that made me think of um you know how people don't have any trouble believing that
01:03:43 hey maybe we should eat you know when it comes to our diet maybe we should eat in a healthy way
01:03:48 like they would have ate you know thousands of years ago where it's very single ingredient based
01:03:54 foods and that seems like an easy concept to grasp but when it comes to homeschooling we're
01:04:01 just educating our kids the way thousands of generations of humans would have educated their
01:04:05 kids before the last couple hundred years of the modern education system so in the same way it's
01:04:10 like the caveman diet or whatever they would call that uh type of eating education yeah and
01:04:18 it's for education so um yeah yeah no that's really really good um i also wanted to just put
01:04:26 it out there too if um any of the our listeners are have a special needs child many of the
01:04:32 provinces are set up to have um resources available to homeschool families to help with that
01:04:39 And I know in B.C., where I live, if you enroll through, for example, HCOS or other schools, you can actually get provincial funding to help and get an educational assistant.
01:04:54 And then you can still have your child at home and you can still homeschool the other kids.
01:04:59 There are ways to do that as well.
01:05:01 And are you aware, Jolene, Dwayne, of any situations or any families who are tapping into those resources?
01:05:08 in your circle.
01:05:10 Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
01:05:10 Yeah.
01:05:11 Yeah.
01:05:11 Yeah.
01:05:12 Yeah.
01:05:13 So it is available too.
01:05:14 And just to encourage those who, let's say your child is autistic
01:05:20 or they've got some sort of learning disability,
01:05:22 to ask questions when you contact your provincial groups.
01:05:26 They will know what resources are available for you there.
01:05:32 Well, we're going to wrap it up.
01:05:33 Thank you so much.
01:05:35 Before I let you go, I'm just going to share my screen here.
01:05:38 and show people how to find our site here, actionforcanada.com.
01:05:48 I'm going to, that's our page, but how to find us.
01:05:52 I'm just going to take you back to, if you go to the toolbar at the top
01:05:58 where it says current issues, let's just say you're tapping into our website.
01:06:04 Right down here, homeschooling revolution.
01:06:06 Go there.
01:06:08 and right away it takes you find your provincial homeschool association
01:06:15 go there this is it for those of you getting started
01:06:18 and every province is listed here for example alberta it is an alphabetical order you want to
01:06:26 go to ahiaonline.com um in bc just open that up manitoba they're all there and uh you want to find
01:06:36 out get the answers to all your questions there let's hope my screen goes back
01:06:46 that's okay it doesn't i'm gonna go back
01:06:50 to the main page
01:06:55 below that you will see some webinars that we've done over the last couple of years
01:07:02 on homeschooling and on parenting so anything about homeschooling is in here there's one
01:07:09 we did on socialization and the statistics of how students fare as adults and as
01:07:19 how they do academically in school so there's some really great interviews in there with some
01:07:27 experts. Down below is the yearly provincial homeschool conventions. This will be updated
01:07:35 by early fall because most things don't start till, well, February is the first one in Saskatchewan,
01:07:42 but most of them are in the spring. So that'll get updated for 2027. And do plan to go to one
01:07:49 of those. And then legal resources. The Homeschool Legal Defense Association. I highly support them
01:07:57 and they are also the ones that are protecting your homeschool freedoms in Canada. They're the
01:08:04 ones that I want to say at least 35 years ago went to bat for homeschooling in Canada and
01:08:12 now paved the way
01:08:15 for freedom in our provinces
01:08:16 so if you have any legal
01:08:18 questions, any concerns
01:08:20 you want to reach out to
01:08:22 hslda.ca
01:08:24 and they also offer
01:08:26 homeschool support
01:08:28 and how to get started
01:08:30 they offer
01:08:31 advice, telephone over
01:08:34 the phone advice on how to get started
01:08:36 so they're another one
01:08:38 and
01:08:41 And, yeah, we'll just come out of that screen.
01:08:44 And I just want to thank Duane and Jolene Hay for being on today.
01:08:51 It's been absolutely fantastic.
01:08:53 Your wisdom, your insight, your experience, very valuable.
01:08:59 And so thank you again for being here today.
01:09:02 Thanks for having us.
01:09:05 You're welcome. 0.96
01:09:05 I will pass this off to Heather now. 0.98
01:09:10 And before we wrap up, Heather's got an introduction for next week's speaker.
01:09:16 We're looking forward to having Billy Crone join us next week.
01:09:20 He's a pastor, author, sought-after speaker, and the leader of Get a Life Ministries.
01:09:27 So be sure to join Tanya and Pastor Billy Crone on the Empower Hour next week.
01:09:33 Back to you, Doris.
01:09:35 Thank you, Heather.
01:09:37 And just to close, one of my favorite verses that I rely on, and you can apply this to homeschooling, Proverbs 3, 5 and 6,
01:09:47 Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.
01:09:51 In all your ways, acknowledge him and he will direct your path and he will direct your path.
01:09:56 and if you need to be encouraged
01:09:59 and you need advice
01:10:00 please reach out to me
01:10:03 at homeschooling at actionforcanada.ca
01:10:08 I'll be happy to reply to your email
01:10:11 or give you a call back
01:10:12 and if you need any direction
01:10:15 just reach out to us as well
01:10:16 so thanks everyone for being here today
01:10:19 and we'll see you again soon
01:10:21 bye bye
01:10:26 That's what I've got to say. Look at this crowd.
01:10:33 I'm going to thank God and God alone for the ground that I'm standing on.
01:10:44 I'm going to thank our founding fathers for giving their lives
01:10:51 and sacrificing so much for our freedom.
01:10:58 And I'm calling on you today.
01:11:01 Don't put them to shame.
01:11:03 Don't waste what they did.
01:11:05 We have guaranteed rights in this country.
01:11:16 We are putting chapters across the nation.
01:11:19 We are going to be in every town and every city, and we are going to build communities
01:11:26 within these communities of like-minded people who are actually going to care for one another
01:11:31 again and love on each other and give each other the help when they're down.
01:11:35 We are going to use the teams and the people that built within chapters to support our
01:11:41 businesses.
01:11:42 The government's actions are completely 100% unlawful.
01:11:49 Judgment will again be found on justice, and those with virtuous hearts will pursue it.
01:11:58 You have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness.
01:12:06 And then verse 23 comes along with a promise.
01:12:10 God says, He will turn the sins of evil people back on them.
01:12:15 he will destroy them for their sins
01:12:20 I take great comfort in that 0.98
01:12:23 because I serve a mighty living God
01:12:27 who has allowed us to go through this season of discomfort
01:12:33 because we as a nation have turned our backs on him
01:12:37 and we need to get right
01:12:39 so I am just going to thank you so much
01:12:43 I'm going to say God bless you and God bless Canada.
01:13:13 Thank you.
01:13:43 We'll see you next time.