Pastor Andrew DeBartolo of Encounter Choice Church in Kingston, Ontario joins me to talk about Bill C-4, a bill that could see a pastor who counsel someone who believes they are a different gender than their physical body.
00:00:00.000After much prayer, Andrew felt the Lord calling them to step out in faith to start a new life-changing church
00:00:08.620that would hold fast to the gospel of Christ and preach the good news boldly in Kingston.
00:00:17.080Desiring the church to be independent, though not isolated,
00:00:21.580Andrew sought help and disciplineship in church planting from five stone churches plants, strengthens and renews local churches.
00:00:35.460Encounter Choice had its first public worship service on Sunday, January 10, 2016 at their church, located at 1201 Division Street, Unit 14.
00:00:48.320Please welcome Andrew DeBartolo, pastor.
00:00:58.180I was just about to say, you've told them where to come find me now.
00:01:06.600So I don't know how many of you are familiar with Bill C-4.
00:01:12.060Bill C-4 was passed in the Senate in January of 2021, sorry, in December of 2021.
00:01:20.380And in January of 2022, it received royal assent, which basically means it is now law in Canada and has been for just about a year.
00:01:29.440Bill C-4 basically says that anyone, like a pastor, for example,
00:01:33.720who would try to counsel someone and say to them, listen, I know that you might feel that you're a gender different than your physical body,
00:06:26.780And so we completely support not only Barry, and it's been great to hear more about Shannon's story as well and the work that he's doing.
00:06:35.040I'm going to connect him with some guys as well in Ottawa.
00:06:38.260But the reason why we support and stand behind this isn't because, oh yeah, we're just going to vote the right guys in and we're going to...
00:06:44.900No, it's because what we're seeing here is an attack on the very image of God in boys and in girls.
00:06:51.740And we're destroying them physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
00:06:55.840And so my hope, and as I said earlier today, the only hope really, the only change really is not just vote the right guy, pass the right piece of legislation.
00:07:08.840The goal is, and what we would call not just the judges that are in there, but legislators, lawmakers, those who support and encourage this great evil,
00:07:18.680that they would repent of this great evil.
00:07:22.240That they would turn from abusing and harming our kids, which is what they're doing, and that they would stop it.
00:07:28.140That they would honor the Constitution they're supposed to uphold, which has, again, first and foremost, the supremacy of God and the rule of law.
00:07:37.400A clear understanding of how God has designed the world to work.
00:07:41.600And so my encouragement to all of us is to not only know that, but don't be afraid to say that.
00:07:48.520The reality is, in many instances, yeah, you're going to have people like Barry, or like friends of mine,
00:07:54.640who by saying the wrong things will find themselves on the other end of court proceedings.
00:07:59.460Okay, there's a consequence that comes from saying that which is true,
00:08:04.840for actually trying to fight for and defend the rights and the protections of children who are innocent and who are victims in all of this.
00:08:14.200And so don't be afraid, even as Max said, don't be silenced.