Adin Live - December 01, 2021


Why STREAMING is Very Depressing...


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Length

17 minutes

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Word count

3,514

Sentence count

360

Harmful content

Misogyny

9

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Hate speech

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Summary

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In this episode, Patrick talks about the current state of live streaming and how it affects the future of the industry. He also talks about some of the biggest streaming companies in the world and how they have a hand in ruining the gaming community.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Chow is being soft. I'm not gonna lie. I was being soft.
00:00:03.480 I don't give a **** if you guys spamming now. I don't care. I don't care, chat.
00:00:06.560 Because guess what? At the end of the day, I'm going to do whatever I want to do.
00:00:09.200 The toxic life of a full streamer.
00:00:14.700 Uh, chat was being toxic towards toast.
00:00:17.440 A 12-year-old little army of toxic losers literally...
00:00:21.440 Oh, this is like all the streamers. It's like a little mini-documentary for streamers.
00:00:24.940 Am I in this chat? Am I in this video?
00:00:26.940 Stop spamming. You ruined the chat, bro.
00:00:30.000 Put your account on...
00:00:31.380 Bro, no way!
00:00:32.320 Dude, you guys are spamming Sui in his chat, too?
00:00:35.220 Most, I feel you, bro. I feel you.
00:00:37.240 They're literally putting Sui in my ****, too, bro. Like, I feel you, dude.
00:00:40.720 Literally, stop spamming. You ruined the chat, bro.
00:00:44.580 Put your account on private, but the head is about to get toxic!
00:00:54.160 Live streaming has always had a culture of toxicity.
00:00:57.380 Whether it's coming from the streamer...
00:00:58.980 Suck my... 1.00
00:01:00.240 You ugly-ass bitch! 1.00
00:01:01.360 Ha ha ha ha ha!
00:01:02.880 Fuck the f*** bitch! 1.00
00:01:03.880 You're so f***ing stupid.
00:01:04.940 Yo.
00:01:05.820 For the audience.
00:01:07.240 Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.
00:01:15.300 It's a fire video.
00:01:16.060 Die! Die! Die! Die!
00:01:18.800 Love you, speed.
00:01:20.020 Just f***ing die!
00:01:22.440 What the f***?
00:01:23.040 Twitch, being the largest platform for live streaming, grew 83% in 2020 because of everyone
00:01:50.240 stuck at home. Other live streaming platforms had big growth during this time as well.
00:01:56.720 Funny story, Chad. Only the OGs are going to know. I used to stream with Facebook, Chad. Before I
00:02:00.700 was a partner on Twitch, I streamed with Facebook. They offered me a crazy deal for my size. I think
00:02:05.460 I was averaging 200 viewers and they offered me, I think, five bands a month, which is really good
00:02:08.780 for me at that time, coming right out of high school. Pretty dope. Thought I'd let you guys
00:02:14.360 know. Facebook offers bags, but I'm never signing to Facebook. So let you guys know
00:02:20.180 right now, they could offer me 10 fucking mil and I'm saying no.
00:02:23.560 Streamers have become millionaires during this time, but in order to make those millions,
00:02:28.220 there's a bit of a sacrifice they have.
00:02:31.380 Why are you guys saying cap? I swear to my life, if Facebook says, hey, here's $10 million,
00:02:37.040 here's $10 million. It's going to ruin, Chad, it's going to literally ruin my community. You guys
00:02:45.060 will literally look at me as like a sellout. Okay. I'm not going to have fun streaming anymore.
00:02:48.640 Like, bro, I'm not doing that, bro. Why would I do that? I don't need to.
00:02:53.020 ...have to make. My name is Patrick CC. Make sure you're drinking water while you're watching this
00:02:57.000 video. I got Gatorade, bro. I got Gatorade. In 2021, Aiden Ross and iShowSpeed became two of
00:03:01.420 the biggest streamers on the internet. By the way, Speed streams on YouTube. Both streamers have
00:03:05.720 somewhat similar styles, being an average guy, streaming and chatting to their audience in their
00:03:10.700 bedroom, while occasionally playing video games or reacting to other content. Also, a big part of Aiden,
00:03:16.100 Speed, and many other streamers' content is reading TTS messages. TTS stands for text-to-speech,
00:03:22.100 and it's when viewers can pay a certain amount of money, and a robot voice will read their message
00:03:26.220 they type to the streamer and to the audience. I'm going to turn TTS back on, Chad. $5 TTS,
00:03:31.440 XMission1 donates. No longer $10, it's $5 to talk.
00:03:33.820 So what's all the hype about? Well, things can get out of control pretty quickly.
00:03:41.820 Okay, so maybe right off the bat you're thinking this is fake, like they're playing some sort of
00:03:45.840 character. And I might agree with you, but honestly, I don't know. Because a lot of the
00:03:50.840 times, it seems like these creators are being controlled by their chat.
00:03:53.720 Why am I not loved by my own chat? Oh, this is when I was going through it, Chad.
00:03:59.100 This is when I was in New York, going through it. I'm going to keep it a buck. No more of this
00:04:03.840 shit. Don't call me a puppet. Stop it. Do not call me a puppet. You guys know. Guys, admit I've
00:04:09.380 gotten better. I've literally gotten better this past since I... Bro, stop, bro. Since my hair's been
00:04:13.440 green, I got better. Bro, y'all are on my dick, bro. Bro, it just makes me like not want to
00:04:18.000 fucking stream. You were just filming L's when I was reacting to this NBA video that seemed very
00:04:22.400 interesting. But it can get even worse. You would imagine that most of the people watching these
00:04:34.360 streamers are fans. So why would they do this to someone that they like? Well, simply because it
00:04:39.280 gets a reaction. Whether it's from the creator or other people in the chat. Kind of like that kid
00:04:43.880 who was in your class and would always talk back to the teacher and say rude things. And three people
00:04:48.800 would laugh, but everyone else thinks this kid is so fucking annoying. Thousands of those
00:04:52.680 kids are in live stream chats. But it seems like these streamers want that toxicity in
00:04:57.220 their chats. Take this streamer by the name of Deller, for example. He will stream for hours
00:05:01.620 and leave the text-to-speech on, knowing damn well the messages are going to be extremely
00:05:05.820 toxic, racist, and out of control. 0.53
00:05:08.620 Someone wandered into our safe space. Sometimes I put Cheeto dust on my grandma.
00:05:13.620 Dude! Mods! Mods! Mods! Mods! Mods! Mods! Mods!
00:05:18.620 My step-sister has such a tight little- This is unfiltered, unmodded harassment. And it can be prevented 0.93
00:05:26.780 to some degree. Specific words or sayings can be banned from people being able to type them.
00:05:31.780 You ever have friends with Armenians or have any friends with them? 1.00
00:05:33.780 Have you ever been friends with an Armenian before? To be honest, I don't even know what
00:05:38.780 that is. Is that an ethnicity? Honestly, is that a type of person? Like what is an Armenian?
00:05:45.780 I don't know what that is. There are thousands of commenters partaking in this toxic behavior.
00:05:51.780 If you sat there and tried to ban everyone, you'd lose all your viewers. However, it seems like
00:05:56.400 these streamers are willing to put up with this because one, it's making them money,
00:06:00.400 and two, people are sharing it on social media, which is making them more poppin',
00:06:04.400 driving viewers up, and ultimately making them more money.
00:06:10.400 So Aiden, Speed, and other streamers have allowed the chat to make fun of them and bully them,
00:06:15.400 whether it's through the chat-
00:06:16.400 Alright, let's get one thing fucking straight. You guys do not bully me, bro, in any way.
00:06:21.400 In any way, shape, or form, you do not fucking bully me.
00:06:24.400 You do not boss me around and push me around and shit. I swear to God you don't.
00:06:28.400 I swear to God you do not. You do not bully me, bro.
00:06:32.400 ...or through TTS, because whether you love them or actually don't like them,
00:06:36.400 it's always funny to see someone freak out through a computer screen.
00:06:41.400 Yes, that is Speed barking when he gets angry.
00:06:44.400 It's not just these two. Pretty much all live streamers have to deal with keyboard warriors to some degree.
00:06:48.400 It just depends on how you handle it. Some people handle it and it's-
00:06:50.400 Also, I didn't even say congratulations to Ludwig on the big move, bro.
00:06:54.400 Again, guys, I'm still going to be remaining with Twitch. I love Twitch.
00:06:56.400 I don't know what's happening with this platform and shit.
00:06:58.400 They need to offer me at least 50 mil to stay.
00:07:00.400 I'm kidding, imagine.
00:07:02.400 Nah, but Twitch, I love you. No matter what, I'm sticking with you, baby boy.
00:07:06.400 Purple till I die.
00:07:08.400 Twitch chat, because I noticed something.
00:07:10.400 If you go to Twitter, right?
00:07:12.400 Let me show you guys right now.
00:07:14.400 I almost just leaked my DMs in that edge, baby.
00:07:18.400 If you go to Twitter, bro, this Twitch page, bro, they follow like every partnered streamer.
00:07:23.400 They do not fuck with me, bro.
00:07:24.400 Like, they actually do not fuck with me.
00:07:26.400 I don't understand it, bro.
00:07:27.400 I don't get it.
00:07:28.400 I feel like Twitch, the platform itself, does not like me, bro, sometimes.
00:07:31.400 I swear to God.
00:07:32.400 They follow every other streamer you guys can literally-
00:07:34.400 Like, everyone that's a part of the Poggers community, they literally love and follow.
00:07:37.400 And they even like said, congrats Ludwig on your moving shit.
00:07:40.400 Uh, I don't get it.
00:07:42.400 I don't know.
00:07:43.400 Um.
00:07:44.400 Your hairline is fuck puppet.
00:07:46.400 Huh?
00:07:47.400 Fuck you.
00:07:49.400 Um, and again, bro, it's just, I don't know.
00:07:51.400 Nah, it's not L Twitch.
00:07:53.400 It's just, I feel like I'm not liked.
00:07:55.400 But it's okay.
00:07:56.400 Again, I love you guys.
00:07:57.400 As long as I have you guys.
00:07:58.400 And again, without Twitch, I wouldn't be able to have met you guys.
00:08:01.400 So, I have you guys.
00:08:02.400 That's all that matters, right?
00:08:03.400 The YouTube CEO follows you?
00:08:05.400 I know.
00:08:06.400 I know.
00:08:07.400 I know.
00:08:08.400 I'm glad you put the TTS to $5.
00:08:09.400 It makes it a lot easier for those who don't have enough to give to you.
00:08:12.400 You're a great guy and I appreciate what you do for the community.
00:08:15.400 Hey man, I love you.
00:08:16.400 Keep it up, bro.
00:08:17.400 I got you with the Twitch Prime sub when my other one expires.
00:08:20.400 Thank you.
00:08:21.400 Thank you.
00:08:22.400 Thank you.
00:08:23.400 Again, um, uh, and again, yeah, I know, I know YouTube followed me.
00:08:26.400 The CEO followed me.
00:08:27.400 Would you ever get Montana of 300 on stream?
00:08:30.400 Ziaz and Blue used to react to him all the time.
00:08:33.400 Yeah.
00:08:34.400 He's a dope rapper and would love to see him on stream.
00:08:36.400 We'll see.
00:08:37.400 We'll see.
00:08:38.400 In a very pleasant and respectable way.
00:08:39.400 Is chapping toxic towards my friends that I choose to play with?
00:08:44.400 Mmm.
00:08:45.400 Over a video game?
00:08:47.400 The fact is guys.
00:08:48.400 I jerked off to Naomi RN would rate the content 10 out of 10. 0.99
00:08:53.400 Sorry.
00:08:54.400 What did you say?
00:08:55.400 Um.
00:09:04.400 Not gonna lie.
00:09:05.400 I jerked off to Naomi. 0.94
00:09:06.400 I would rate it 10 out of 10.
00:09:07.400 Bro, like my thing is this.
00:09:09.400 I just want to say I lost a lot of respect for you after the MILF coin gambling with Philz 1.00
00:09:13.400 and the fake arrest, et cetera, but recently been loving the streams.
00:09:16.400 Glad you went back to our old ways.
00:09:18.400 Also, we want Rice come back.
00:09:19.400 Can you call him, please?
00:09:21.400 I've tried calling Rice.
00:09:22.400 Uh.
00:09:23.400 I feel like it would be kind of like fucked up to call him on some shit like, yo, where
00:09:26.400 you at?
00:09:27.400 Uh.
00:09:28.400 If I'm gonna talk to Rice, it's gonna be off stream.
00:09:29.400 And that's just how it is, bro.
00:09:30.400 But I'm glad that you guys are having fun watching me again.
00:09:32.400 Cause I'm definitely having fun.
00:09:33.400 I don't know if you guys can literally tell.
00:09:35.400 I'm gonna keep saying it, bro.
00:09:36.400 I've never had this much fun streaming.
00:09:38.400 Being this big.
00:09:39.400 And uh.
00:09:40.400 I don't know what it is, bro.
00:09:41.400 Like I, I'm just genuinely happy.
00:09:42.400 You could see.
00:09:43.400 I have a nice fucking smile on my face.
00:09:45.400 I don't let you pussies bully me anymore. 1.00
00:09:47.400 And I just have fun doing what I have to do.
00:09:49.400 So.
00:09:50.400 Me and my friends are playing, so I just ask that you guys respect how we want to play.
00:09:54.400 Now, when you handle it in a nice way, that's not fun to watch.
00:09:58.400 I mean, come on.
00:09:59.400 Nobody wants to be taught a lesson.
00:10:01.400 It's like I'm listening to my friend's mom discipline me and I don't want to hear that
00:10:04.400 shit.
00:10:05.400 But when you get angry and start screaming, yeah, that's the good stuff.
00:10:08.400 I don't care, man.
00:10:09.400 I don't want to break it.
00:10:10.400 I don't want to break it.
00:10:11.400 I don't want to break it.
00:10:12.400 I don't want to break it.
00:10:13.400 I don't want to break it.
00:10:14.400 I don't want to break it.
00:10:15.400 Hey, Aiden, I'm trying to get my music big and be on your stream someday.
00:10:17.400 Check out Astoyza or Apple Music or Spotify.
00:10:20.400 I just dropped an album called Angel Pie.
00:10:23.400 Consistently raging is obviously going to encourage people to push the streamer's limits
00:10:27.400 and try to get them to freak out.
00:10:29.400 Anyone can notice that.
00:10:30.400 So it seems like many streamers allow this to happen because it makes their community
00:10:34.400 happy.
00:10:35.400 What the fuck?
00:10:36.400 Their suffering makes other people happy.
00:10:37.400 Tyler's a goat.
00:10:38.400 Now, remember, for the most part, chat will copy the behavior of the streamer.
00:10:41.400 Who is that?
00:10:42.400 He's not to your mouth.
00:10:45.400 I'm criticizing.
00:10:47.400 Hey, hey, hey.
00:10:48.400 Shut the fuck up. 1.00
00:10:49.400 Shut your ass up. 0.76
00:10:51.400 So speed does this to other people.
00:10:53.400 The chat will inevitably do it back to him.
00:10:55.400 The only problem is he might not be in the mood for that.
00:10:58.400 It's kind of like speed and many other streamers are okay with toxicity as long as it's when
00:11:08.400 they decide.
00:11:09.400 Every single one, even the one that people that people that tweet at me and say ratio
00:11:14.400 and soft and Elden and all this.
00:11:17.400 I pray that you guys experience what I experienced, bro.
00:11:20.400 But when the chat.
00:11:21.400 I'm not going to lie, bro.
00:11:23.400 I don't even know what the fuck.
00:11:24.400 I remember that.
00:11:25.400 I got to watch the whole clip.
00:11:26.400 What the fuck?
00:11:27.400 Does.
00:11:28.400 That's when they freak out.
00:11:30.400 I was being soft.
00:11:31.400 I'm not going to lie.
00:11:32.400 I was being soft.
00:11:33.400 I don't give a fuck if you guys.
00:11:35.400 I don't care.
00:11:36.400 I don't care, chat.
00:11:37.400 Because guess what?
00:11:38.400 At the end of the day, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want to do.
00:11:40.400 Yeah.
00:11:41.400 I guess the only real way to combat this is to just set the precedent that you aren't
00:11:44.400 taking any from the chat.
00:11:46.400 Like from day one, you have to be kind of like the dictator.
00:11:48.400 I'm doing what I want.
00:11:50.400 And if you don't like it, then leave.
00:11:53.400 But that doesn't make for a strong community.
00:11:56.400 Communities are about sharing and working together and collaboration.
00:11:59.400 So when you build a toxic community and they want you to bully someone on the internet
00:12:04.400 today, but you don't want to, now you're the one that's going to get bullied because
00:12:08.400 they need to let off some steam.
00:12:09.400 And again, you could argue that these freak outs aren't even real.
00:12:12.400 Maybe some streamers actually don't care.
00:12:14.400 They just have rage moments because the viewers like it.
00:12:17.400 And the chat thinks they have the control, but it's really the streamer who's giving them
00:12:20.400 what they want, making the streamer in control the whole time, which would be even more of
00:12:24.400 a 600 IQ growth strategy.
00:12:26.400 Also, let me make this clear because it isn't obvious.
00:12:29.400 There's a difference between viewers and chat.
00:12:31.400 As a streamer myself, I know that about 70 to 80% of the people watching are not typing
00:12:35.400 in the chat.
00:12:36.400 The overwhelming majority of the people who watch streamers don't participate in chat.
00:12:40.400 I'd be willing to bet that most viewers-
00:12:42.400 Hold on, how many of you guys do not use the chat?
00:12:44.400 Put me in the chat right now.
00:12:45.400 Like, for example, you're watching on your TV, just take five seconds and put me.
00:12:48.400 I think it is true.
00:12:49.400 I feel like a lot of you guys are just, see, I'm seeing, see it says first time chat.
00:12:52.400 See, see, I don't know if it pops up for me.
00:12:55.400 Like, look, watch.
00:12:56.400 It's saying first time chat.
00:12:57.400 See, look at this shit.
00:12:58.400 First time chat.
00:12:59.400 First time chat.
00:13:00.400 See what I'm saying?
00:13:04.400 Hmm.
00:13:05.400 Really interesting.
00:13:06.400 Also get really mad when their favorite streamers being controlled or freaking out at the keyboard
00:13:11.400 warriors.
00:13:12.400 That's like if you're watching a movie and one guy won't stop talking.
00:13:15.400 So the manager comes in and stops the whole movie just to deal with that one person.
00:13:19.400 All right.
00:13:20.400 It's a little different, but you get what I'm saying there because the streamer doesn't
00:13:22.400 know how the viewers are feeling.
00:13:24.400 They can only gauge it based on what they read in the comments.
00:13:27.400 So if they see a wall of L's, that's only 15% of the people.
00:13:30.400 Maybe the rest of the people actually like what they're doing.
00:13:33.400 That's what these things start to wait.
00:13:35.400 That used to be this chat, bro.
00:13:36.400 Do you guys remember how fucking bad it was?
00:13:38.400 Like I'm talking like June, July.
00:13:40.400 That's how bad it was, bro.
00:13:42.400 That's how bad it was.
00:13:43.400 Like, for example, a thousand people could really just be putting L's, but there's like
00:13:48.400 literally 45,000 people.
00:13:49.400 So like, it just, bro, that's still a lot.
00:13:51.400 You guys get what I'm saying.
00:13:53.400 A heavily on a streamer.
00:13:55.400 Aiden is a great example of a person who openly welcomed the toxicity from the chat because
00:13:59.400 of the financial gain and popularity.
00:14:01.400 All right.
00:14:02.400 I think he actually.
00:14:03.400 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:14:04.400 What are you trying to say?
00:14:05.400 I sell myself.
00:14:06.400 Actually liked being the butt of the joke while he was rising to the star he is now.
00:14:11.400 When he was hanging out with rappers, he allowed them to kind of pick on him.
00:14:14.400 And in a charismatic way, he shrugged it off.
00:14:17.400 But when he did this live stream with Blueface, it went a little too far.
00:14:26.400 Even DDG had to tell him.
00:14:28.400 You didn't help me out.
00:14:30.400 I'm not supposed to help you.
00:14:31.400 Why?
00:14:32.400 You a grown ass man.
00:14:34.400 Bro!
00:14:35.400 You was not existing in your stream.
00:14:38.400 You gotta stand up for yourself.
00:14:39.400 You can't be there with you all the time.
00:14:40.400 That's what I'm saying, bro.
00:14:41.400 You gotta be a man, like. 0.97
00:14:43.400 But that stream went mega viral.
00:14:45.400 It was on every rap media outlet, all over TikTok and YouTube.
00:14:49.400 It arguably got him to Rolling Loud and in various Lyrical Lemonade music videos.
00:14:54.400 Just a little bit of bullying ultimately allowed him to shine brighter than ever.
00:14:58.400 But again, this takes a toll on you.
00:14:59.400 Now we see a more real side of him.
00:15:01.400 There's only so much you can deal with before you need to take a break.
00:15:03.400 Doesn't matter how much money you're making.
00:15:05.400 He's talked about quitting streaming multiple times and I'm not sure if this is clickbait
00:15:09.400 or not.
00:15:10.400 And it seems like every other week.
00:15:11.400 No, I swear to God I wasn't.
00:15:12.400 I swear to God I wasn't.
00:15:13.400 You guys know how fucking upset and depressed I was.
00:15:15.400 I was literally gonna trick myself into a mental asylum.
00:15:16.400 I really was.
00:15:17.400 Not asylum, but like, you know what I'm saying.
00:15:19.400 Like a little break from reality.
00:15:20.400 Someone said you Illuminati guys.
00:15:22.400 You're weird as fuck.
00:15:23.400 People push iShowSpeed to his limits, which end up with him crying on stream or crying
00:15:28.400 in a video.
00:15:29.400 Shaking out of pure frustration and anger over the way his chat treats him.
00:15:32.400 Unfortunately for Speed, this won't stop happening unless he stops encouraging that
00:15:37.400 behavior.
00:15:38.400 And also partaking in that behavior.
00:15:40.400 I mean at some point you gotta say enough is enough.
00:15:42.400 Almost all streamers do have that breaking point.
00:15:44.400 The point where they cannot allow this negativity or toxicity to control them anymore.
00:15:48.400 Most of the time their viewership drops when they either take a break or make it obvious
00:15:52.400 they won't be dealing with it anymore.
00:15:53.400 It's not like they fall off or lose all our viewers.
00:15:56.400 They still have a huge-
00:15:57.400 Like you guys are weird bro.
00:15:59.400 I remember when I used to let that shit get to me, Aiden fell off and shit.
00:16:01.400 You're weird, you're weird, you're weird.
00:16:03.400 Fanbase.
00:16:04.400 That strong core fanbase has already been built.
00:16:06.400 And the monetary benefits from that-
00:16:08.400 I built it!
00:16:09.400 Which makes it seem like encouraging toxic behavior, allowing yourself to get bullied-
00:16:13.400 You know what I actually did?
00:16:14.400 I did.
00:16:15.400 I did fall off.
00:16:16.400 Bro my chat is so much better like this too.
00:16:18.400 Thank God I fell off.
00:16:19.400 Thank God I'm fucking irrelevant.
00:16:21.400 Thank God.
00:16:22.400 Holy shit I needed it.
00:16:24.400 Speed!
00:16:26.400 Freaking out and raging often and getting pushed to your limits while your sanity is almost
00:16:31.400 completely lost is the ultimate live streamer marketing strategy.
00:16:35.400 Then when you wheel it back, mature a bit I guess, and make it very obvious that you aren't
00:16:40.400 allowing the chat to be toxic anymore, all of these keyboard demons go away because they
00:16:44.400 can't control you anymore.
00:16:45.400 And you end up with a very stable, consistent, positive community that wants to see you have-
00:16:50.400 I remember when Cammy did my makeup.
00:16:51.400 That was- that was fun.
00:16:53.400 Happy and successful.
00:16:54.400 A large enough community to live off of and have a stable live streaming career.
00:16:58.400 That's me!
00:16:59.400 Either that, or live streaming will just actually make you go insane.
00:17:01.400 On God.
00:17:02.400 You let me know.
00:17:03.400 On God.
00:17:04.400 You let me know.