Adin Live - December 01, 2021Why STREAMING is Very Depressing...
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Summary
In this episode, Patrick talks about the current state of live streaming and how it affects the future of the industry. He also talks about some of the biggest streaming companies in the world and how they have a hand in ruining the gaming community.
Transcript
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Chow is being soft. I'm not gonna lie. I was being soft.
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I don't give a **** if you guys spamming now. I don't care. I don't care, chat.
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Because guess what? At the end of the day, I'm going to do whatever I want to do.
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A 12-year-old little army of toxic losers literally...
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Oh, this is like all the streamers. It's like a little mini-documentary for streamers.
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Dude, you guys are spamming Sui in his chat, too?
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They're literally putting Sui in my ****, too, bro. Like, I feel you, dude.
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Literally, stop spamming. You ruined the chat, bro.
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Put your account on private, but the head is about to get toxic!
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Live streaming has always had a culture of toxicity.
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Twitch, being the largest platform for live streaming, grew 83% in 2020 because of everyone
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stuck at home. Other live streaming platforms had big growth during this time as well.
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Funny story, Chad. Only the OGs are going to know. I used to stream with Facebook, Chad. Before I
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was a partner on Twitch, I streamed with Facebook. They offered me a crazy deal for my size. I think
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I was averaging 200 viewers and they offered me, I think, five bands a month, which is really good
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for me at that time, coming right out of high school. Pretty dope. Thought I'd let you guys
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know. Facebook offers bags, but I'm never signing to Facebook. So let you guys know
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right now, they could offer me 10 fucking mil and I'm saying no.
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Streamers have become millionaires during this time, but in order to make those millions,
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Why are you guys saying cap? I swear to my life, if Facebook says, hey, here's $10 million,
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here's $10 million. It's going to ruin, Chad, it's going to literally ruin my community. You guys
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will literally look at me as like a sellout. Okay. I'm not going to have fun streaming anymore.
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Like, bro, I'm not doing that, bro. Why would I do that? I don't need to.
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...have to make. My name is Patrick CC. Make sure you're drinking water while you're watching this
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video. I got Gatorade, bro. I got Gatorade. In 2021, Aiden Ross and iShowSpeed became two of
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the biggest streamers on the internet. By the way, Speed streams on YouTube. Both streamers have
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somewhat similar styles, being an average guy, streaming and chatting to their audience in their
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bedroom, while occasionally playing video games or reacting to other content. Also, a big part of Aiden,
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Speed, and many other streamers' content is reading TTS messages. TTS stands for text-to-speech,
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and it's when viewers can pay a certain amount of money, and a robot voice will read their message
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they type to the streamer and to the audience. I'm going to turn TTS back on, Chad. $5 TTS,
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XMission1 donates. No longer $10, it's $5 to talk.
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So what's all the hype about? Well, things can get out of control pretty quickly.
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Okay, so maybe right off the bat you're thinking this is fake, like they're playing some sort of
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character. And I might agree with you, but honestly, I don't know. Because a lot of the
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times, it seems like these creators are being controlled by their chat.
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Why am I not loved by my own chat? Oh, this is when I was going through it, Chad.
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This is when I was in New York, going through it. I'm going to keep it a buck. No more of this
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shit. Don't call me a puppet. Stop it. Do not call me a puppet. You guys know. Guys, admit I've
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gotten better. I've literally gotten better this past since I... Bro, stop, bro. Since my hair's been
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green, I got better. Bro, y'all are on my dick, bro. Bro, it just makes me like not want to
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fucking stream. You were just filming L's when I was reacting to this NBA video that seemed very
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interesting. But it can get even worse. You would imagine that most of the people watching these
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streamers are fans. So why would they do this to someone that they like? Well, simply because it
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gets a reaction. Whether it's from the creator or other people in the chat. Kind of like that kid
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who was in your class and would always talk back to the teacher and say rude things. And three people
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would laugh, but everyone else thinks this kid is so fucking annoying. Thousands of those
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kids are in live stream chats. But it seems like these streamers want that toxicity in
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their chats. Take this streamer by the name of Deller, for example. He will stream for hours
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and leave the text-to-speech on, knowing damn well the messages are going to be extremely
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Someone wandered into our safe space. Sometimes I put Cheeto dust on my grandma.
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Dude! Mods! Mods! Mods! Mods! Mods! Mods! Mods!
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My step-sister has such a tight little- This is unfiltered, unmodded harassment. And it can be prevented
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to some degree. Specific words or sayings can be banned from people being able to type them.
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You ever have friends with Armenians or have any friends with them?
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Have you ever been friends with an Armenian before? To be honest, I don't even know what
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that is. Is that an ethnicity? Honestly, is that a type of person? Like what is an Armenian?
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I don't know what that is. There are thousands of commenters partaking in this toxic behavior.
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If you sat there and tried to ban everyone, you'd lose all your viewers. However, it seems like
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these streamers are willing to put up with this because one, it's making them money,
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and two, people are sharing it on social media, which is making them more poppin',
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driving viewers up, and ultimately making them more money.
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So Aiden, Speed, and other streamers have allowed the chat to make fun of them and bully them,
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Alright, let's get one thing fucking straight. You guys do not bully me, bro, in any way.
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In any way, shape, or form, you do not fucking bully me.
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You do not boss me around and push me around and shit. I swear to God you don't.
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I swear to God you do not. You do not bully me, bro.
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...or through TTS, because whether you love them or actually don't like them,
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it's always funny to see someone freak out through a computer screen.
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It's not just these two. Pretty much all live streamers have to deal with keyboard warriors to some degree.
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It just depends on how you handle it. Some people handle it and it's-
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Also, I didn't even say congratulations to Ludwig on the big move, bro.
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Again, guys, I'm still going to be remaining with Twitch. I love Twitch.
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I don't know what's happening with this platform and shit.
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Nah, but Twitch, I love you. No matter what, I'm sticking with you, baby boy.
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I almost just leaked my DMs in that edge, baby.
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If you go to Twitter, bro, this Twitch page, bro, they follow like every partnered streamer.
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I feel like Twitch, the platform itself, does not like me, bro, sometimes.
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They follow every other streamer you guys can literally-
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Like, everyone that's a part of the Poggers community, they literally love and follow.
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And they even like said, congrats Ludwig on your moving shit.
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And again, without Twitch, I wouldn't be able to have met you guys.
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It makes it a lot easier for those who don't have enough to give to you.
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You're a great guy and I appreciate what you do for the community.
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I got you with the Twitch Prime sub when my other one expires.
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Again, um, uh, and again, yeah, I know, I know YouTube followed me.
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Ziaz and Blue used to react to him all the time.
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He's a dope rapper and would love to see him on stream.
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Is chapping toxic towards my friends that I choose to play with?
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I jerked off to Naomi RN would rate the content 10 out of 10.
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I just want to say I lost a lot of respect for you after the MILF coin gambling with Philz
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and the fake arrest, et cetera, but recently been loving the streams.
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I feel like it would be kind of like fucked up to call him on some shit like, yo, where
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If I'm gonna talk to Rice, it's gonna be off stream.
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But I'm glad that you guys are having fun watching me again.
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Me and my friends are playing, so I just ask that you guys respect how we want to play.
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Now, when you handle it in a nice way, that's not fun to watch.
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It's like I'm listening to my friend's mom discipline me and I don't want to hear that
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But when you get angry and start screaming, yeah, that's the good stuff.
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Hey, Aiden, I'm trying to get my music big and be on your stream someday.
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Consistently raging is obviously going to encourage people to push the streamer's limits
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So it seems like many streamers allow this to happen because it makes their community
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Now, remember, for the most part, chat will copy the behavior of the streamer.
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The only problem is he might not be in the mood for that.
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It's kind of like speed and many other streamers are okay with toxicity as long as it's when
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Every single one, even the one that people that people that tweet at me and say ratio
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I pray that you guys experience what I experienced, bro.
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At the end of the day, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want to do.
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I guess the only real way to combat this is to just set the precedent that you aren't
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Like from day one, you have to be kind of like the dictator.
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Communities are about sharing and working together and collaboration.
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So when you build a toxic community and they want you to bully someone on the internet
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today, but you don't want to, now you're the one that's going to get bullied because
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And again, you could argue that these freak outs aren't even real.
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They just have rage moments because the viewers like it.
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And the chat thinks they have the control, but it's really the streamer who's giving them
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what they want, making the streamer in control the whole time, which would be even more of
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Also, let me make this clear because it isn't obvious.
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As a streamer myself, I know that about 70 to 80% of the people watching are not typing
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The overwhelming majority of the people who watch streamers don't participate in chat.
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Hold on, how many of you guys do not use the chat?
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Like, for example, you're watching on your TV, just take five seconds and put me.
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I feel like a lot of you guys are just, see, I'm seeing, see it says first time chat.
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Also get really mad when their favorite streamers being controlled or freaking out at the keyboard
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That's like if you're watching a movie and one guy won't stop talking.
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So the manager comes in and stops the whole movie just to deal with that one person.
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It's a little different, but you get what I'm saying there because the streamer doesn't
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They can only gauge it based on what they read in the comments.
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So if they see a wall of L's, that's only 15% of the people.
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Maybe the rest of the people actually like what they're doing.
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Like, for example, a thousand people could really just be putting L's, but there's like
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Aiden is a great example of a person who openly welcomed the toxicity from the chat because
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Actually liked being the butt of the joke while he was rising to the star he is now.
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When he was hanging out with rappers, he allowed them to kind of pick on him.
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But when he did this live stream with Blueface, it went a little too far.
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It was on every rap media outlet, all over TikTok and YouTube.
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It arguably got him to Rolling Loud and in various Lyrical Lemonade music videos.
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Just a little bit of bullying ultimately allowed him to shine brighter than ever.
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There's only so much you can deal with before you need to take a break.
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He's talked about quitting streaming multiple times and I'm not sure if this is clickbait
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You guys know how fucking upset and depressed I was.
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I was literally gonna trick myself into a mental asylum.
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Not asylum, but like, you know what I'm saying.
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People push iShowSpeed to his limits, which end up with him crying on stream or crying
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Shaking out of pure frustration and anger over the way his chat treats him.
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Unfortunately for Speed, this won't stop happening unless he stops encouraging that
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I mean at some point you gotta say enough is enough.
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Almost all streamers do have that breaking point.
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The point where they cannot allow this negativity or toxicity to control them anymore.
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Most of the time their viewership drops when they either take a break or make it obvious
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It's not like they fall off or lose all our viewers.
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I remember when I used to let that shit get to me, Aiden fell off and shit.
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That strong core fanbase has already been built.
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Which makes it seem like encouraging toxic behavior, allowing yourself to get bullied-
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Freaking out and raging often and getting pushed to your limits while your sanity is almost
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completely lost is the ultimate live streamer marketing strategy.
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Then when you wheel it back, mature a bit I guess, and make it very obvious that you aren't
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allowing the chat to be toxic anymore, all of these keyboard demons go away because they
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And you end up with a very stable, consistent, positive community that wants to see you have-
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A large enough community to live off of and have a stable live streaming career.
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Either that, or live streaming will just actually make you go insane.