Alex Jones Show - November 27, 2002


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Rep. Tom Tancredo joins me on the Alex Jones Show to discuss his upcoming primary challenge from Sen. Bob Smith, R-Illinois. We discuss the need for a border patrol bridge across the border with Mexico.

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00:00:00.000 Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:04.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.
00:00:10.000 Welcome back ladies and gentlemen as we blast out worldwide defending this constitutional republic from enemies foreign and domestic.
00:00:19.000 There are only a few congressmen that have a good voting record.
00:00:23.000 One of them is Ron Paul.
00:00:26.000 Of course, Bob Smith is one of the few good senators we've got, as you just heard, blocking the Republicans passing an incredible gun-grab bill that they passed out of the House two weeks ago.
00:00:36.000 We are now joined by Congressman Tom Tancredo of Colorado.
00:00:42.000 And he's going to need your help in the next election.
00:00:44.000 He beat his opponent, the Democrat, by 37 points.
00:00:49.000 A lot of Democrats voted for him, which outraged Lord Bush, according to a roll call newspaper here, also Newsmax.
00:00:56.000 GOP targets pro-border Tancredo.
00:00:58.000 Representative Tom Tancredo, the nation's most outspoken opponent of the invasion of illegal aliens, is being targeted for defeat, not by the Democrats, but by the GOP establishment.
00:01:08.000 Ron Paul's had the same problem.
00:01:09.000 It probably means he'll win by By 40 points next time, but we'll see.
00:01:14.000 Joining us, and I know he's very busy before they leave for the Thanksgiving recess, is the Congressman.
00:01:19.000 Welcome, sir.
00:01:20.000 For having me on.
00:01:22.000 I appreciate it.
00:01:23.000 Absolutely.
00:01:24.000 Sir, why is it every time somebody does the basic stuff for America, they get attacked by Lord Bush?
00:01:30.000 I think the problem is really a guy by the name of Karl Rove, to tell you the truth.
00:01:35.000 You know, Karl gets up every single day.
00:01:37.000 He's the political Watchdog in the White House.
00:01:40.000 And he says, you know, what do I do today to get my boss reelected?
00:01:46.000 And that's all he thinks about.
00:01:48.000 Probably that's all he should think about it.
00:01:49.000 That's, you know, what he's supposed to do.
00:01:51.000 But the reality is that he is, I think, a little more aggressive when it comes to, well, being willing to overlook what should be some basic policy principles that we should stand on, regardless of what happens politically.
00:02:08.000 And so, I really think he's much more of the problem than the President himself.
00:02:14.000 But, you know, this issue is one that I'm certainly not going to go away from, no matter what happens, no matter what they do, no matter if they're looking to try to run a primary against me, they're looking for people out here to actually run in a primary.
00:02:30.000 They know they probably cannot defeat me in a general election with a Democrat, but they are looking for somebody else to do it.
00:02:36.000 And I don't care if I have to fight a primary every two years.
00:02:39.000 I don't care what happens.
00:02:40.000 This issue is bigger than, you know, a bridge in my district or something like that to fight about.
00:02:45.000 This is the future of the country.
00:02:48.000 Well, it is.
00:02:48.000 I had Congressman-elect Gil Halva on yesterday, and he came right out and he said, I'm a member of MECHA.
00:02:56.000 I believe Texas to California belongs to Oslon. 1.00
00:03:00.000 He said that this is a reality, we've got to face it.
00:03:04.000 I said, well, we're getting Border Patrol shot, Forest Service officer killed, FBI agent's brains being bashed in, one in a coma.
00:03:12.000 I said, if I try to go across the border, Mexican troops will shoot me.
00:03:14.000 And he just said, well, that doesn't really matter.
00:03:17.000 I mean, this guy, sovereignty is being destroyed and the globalists want an open border.
00:03:23.000 Oh, absolutely they do.
00:03:25.000 Remember, I think I may have mentioned this last time I was on your show, but it's worth perhaps repeating.
00:03:30.000 When I was in Mexico, I was speaking to the then head of a newly created agency called the Ministry for Mexicans Living in the United States.
00:03:41.000 And the guy, his name is Juan Hernandez.
00:03:46.000 Mr. Hernandez is a citizen of Mexico and a citizen of the United States.
00:03:51.000 Born in Texas, he now, or was at the time anyway, sitting on the cabinet of a foreign government, Mexico.
00:03:59.000 And when we talked about this issue with him, he explained that part of his responsibility was to make sure that as many Mexican nationals came into the United States as possible.
00:04:09.000 Well, they're setting up offices in Houston, in Chicago, at an old train station.
00:04:14.000 This is a big operation.
00:04:15.000 It is a big operation.
00:04:16.000 And their purpose, I said, you know, what's What is it you're trying to accomplish?
00:04:20.000 And he says, well, you know, Congressman, it's pretty simple.
00:04:23.000 If we can get a large population of Mexican nationals living in the United States, it will influence your policy vis-a-vis Mexico. 0.87
00:04:31.000 And he said there is also the aspect of the money that they sent home, which is now 30% of the GDP in Mexico.
00:04:37.000 Can you imagine that?
00:04:39.000 30% of the GDP comes from Mexican nationals outside of Mexico sending money back home.
00:04:44.000 And then we've got these local political bosses that want to have racial politics, so they want the entire third world south of the border to come up here. 0.98
00:04:52.000 Yep.
00:04:53.000 Another 15 to 20 million births each year down there.
00:04:56.000 I mean... He went on to say, This is a direct quote that I always say is one of the most candid statements I've heard from a Mexican official.
00:05:09.000 He said, Congressman, it's not two countries, it's just a region.
00:05:16.000 Now, that was his honest assessment.
00:05:18.000 It is an assessment that is, by the way, held by many people in Mexico and even in the United States.
00:05:24.000 And that's the whole United Nations line.
00:05:26.000 That's right.
00:05:27.000 And Bush is just going along with this.
00:05:28.000 In fact, Gil Halva, who we had on yesterday, the new congressman from Arizona, he said, look, all we're doing is legalizing a reality.
00:05:36.000 He wants total, like, an amnesty.
00:05:38.000 Now Bush has said he wants amnesty.
00:05:41.000 How do we stop this?
00:05:42.000 Because we know, according to Gallup polls, 80% of Americans, 80 plus percent, want the borders controlled, want illegals deported.
00:05:49.000 Most Hispanics do as well.
00:05:51.000 They're trying to make it a racial issue.
00:05:52.000 It's not a racial issue.
00:05:54.000 How do we effectively force Congress to carry out the Constitution and the will of the people?
00:06:00.000 I'll tell you right now that I believe that we have, our caucus, the Immigration Reform Caucus, which I started several years ago, has grown to the point where we have become effective in doing one thing, and that is stopping the attempt Stopping the momentum heading toward open borders.
00:06:15.000 I cannot tell you that I have been able to reverse that, but I can tell you that I believe we have been able to stop it, and I think we will be able to stop it, because the majority, the last time we had a vote on this, A majority of Republicans in our conference voted with me to stop the amnesty.
00:06:31.000 Now, that was being pushed by the President of the United States!
00:06:35.000 You can imagine how much guts that took for, I mean, honest to God, for over 100 members of the Republican caucus to support our efforts to stop it.
00:06:44.000 I think we can.
00:06:45.000 Here's our danger.
00:06:47.000 Our danger isn't so much in the Congress, because honestly, I think we can stop The movement toward amnesty, but what's going to happen is that they are going to achieve it state-by-state, city-by-city, municipality-by-municipality, through the matricular card distribution.
00:07:03.000 Are you familiar with this?
00:07:05.000 Well, yeah.
00:07:05.000 Now they hand out the Mexican ID card.
00:07:07.000 About dozens of U.S.
00:07:08.000 cities from San Francisco to Houston are saying they will accept that.
00:07:11.000 Also, Houston Chronicle reported, along with Christian Science Monitor, that since 1996, the IRS issues tax ID numbers under any fictitious name.
00:07:20.000 With that, anybody, whether they're Russian, Mexican, or Chinese, can go and get a fake Social Security card, then get a bank account, then get welfare.
00:07:30.000 Here's the point, Congressman, I'm sure you've made, I know you've made this point.
00:07:33.000 They're telling Americans to accept military occupation, to accept NORTHCOM, and the Total Information Awareness Surveillance Network.
00:07:40.000 But at the same time, our borders are to be wide open and the government's handing out fake IDs.
00:07:45.000 Isn't that incredible?
00:07:46.000 It is not government.
00:07:47.000 This is the government of Mexico.
00:07:48.000 That's through their counselor office.
00:07:50.000 But through the IRS they also give them the tax identity.
00:07:52.000 You're right.
00:07:53.000 You're right.
00:07:53.000 That is absolutely accurate.
00:07:55.000 I'm telling you that this is the most bizarre system and situation I've ever seen in my life.
00:08:00.000 We're sending military people across the world to defend other borders.
00:08:04.000 We refuse to put them on our own.
00:08:05.000 We are fearful of actually stopping the flow of illegal immigrants into this country because the political ramifications of that might be harmful to some people. 0.64
00:08:15.000 I'll tell you right now that leaving this country vulnerable, as we are, Undeniably, there isn't a human being on the planet who doesn't understand the porous natures of our border and the danger that that poses.
00:08:31.000 And yet, and yet, even with that knowledge, We refuse to do anything significant to stop it.
00:08:37.000 I think that is honestly despicable.
00:08:39.000 I don't know any other word to describe it because you're looking at a situation where the federal government's primary responsibility, the one thing we are supposed to do, is to protect the lives and property of the people of the country. 0.56
00:08:51.000 All the other garbage we get involved with It's all extraneous.
00:08:54.000 Find me the Department of Education and the Constitution or the Health and Human Services. 0.87
00:08:59.000 None of it is there.
00:09:00.000 None of it do we need.
00:09:01.000 We need one thing, protect our borders, and we can't even, won't even do that.
00:09:06.000 Well, it's all getting radically expanded and it's only going to get worse.
00:09:11.000 We're going to be held hostage by these foreign groups that are here with their local political leaders who have a stake in expanding this. 1.00
00:09:17.000 The corporations want the lower wages.
00:09:20.000 This is coming to a head, though.
00:09:22.000 I mean, look, you won by 37 percent.
00:09:25.000 Roll Call reported that you were only one of ten other congressmen to win by this type of majority.
00:09:31.000 This shows that your view is actually popular, even with most immigrants who have now become citizens.
00:09:37.000 Isn't this about globalism, though, and merging us into one pan-American region?
00:09:41.000 You know, Bush said that.
00:09:43.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:09:44.000 It's called the free trade area of the Americas now.
00:09:48.000 And this is something that is designed to essentially eliminate the borders.
00:09:54.000 allow for the quote free flow of good services and people not to be you know hindered by such an
00:10:00.000 anachronistic concept as a border and you know even after 9-1-1 you think are there still people
00:10:06.000 on this planet who honestly believe that that aren't being chased around with somebody with a
00:10:11.000 net? I cannot believe that anyone in their right mind now thinks that borders aren't meaningful.
00:10:19.000 Well, you say that it seems crazy, but not if terrorism is just an excuse to get more control.
00:10:24.000 Let's take a quick call, Congressman Tom Tancredo.
00:10:27.000 John in Illinois, you're on the air with the Congressman.
00:10:29.000 Go ahead, quickly.
00:10:30.000 Thanks, Alex.
00:10:31.000 Briefly, I talked to my Kendall County Sheriff here in Illinois and told him about the border problem, and he kind of shrugged his shoulders and said, well, there's not really much we can do about it.
00:10:42.000 And that it's no big deal because we're all immigrants anyways.
00:10:46.000 How do I deal with a Republican sheriff like that?
00:10:49.000 Yeah, what do we do about this capitulation to the six and a half billion third world populations coming here, the 400 million from the south? 0.91
00:10:56.000 Well, you know, I don't know how long you have to talk to him to explain the real problems we face, but the reality is that we're all a nation of immigrants, but When our grandfathers came here, how many of them asked to have dual citizenship status?
00:11:12.000 How many of them said that the U.S.
00:11:12.000 For starters.
00:11:14.000 belongs to the Aztecs?
00:11:16.000 How many of them said they actually didn't even want to be part of America?
00:11:19.000 That they wanted to maintain their tongue, their language, and their political affiliation with their old country?
00:11:24.000 None of them.
00:11:25.000 Well, you know, 1% maybe?
00:11:27.000 But today, 6 million Americans living here right now with dual citizenship.
00:11:27.000 I don't know.
00:11:33.000 The idea that we tell people all of the time that their children should, if they come here with a different language, should retain that language.
00:11:41.000 Congressman, we've got a break.
00:11:42.000 I understand you're busy.
00:11:43.000 If you've got to go, you've got to go.
00:11:44.000 Can you stay with us for ten more minutes?
00:11:46.000 Yes, sir.
00:11:47.000 Alright, stay right there.
00:11:48.000 We'll be right back after this quick break with the Congressman.
00:11:48.000 Appreciate that.
00:11:51.000 If you'd like to get involved, 800-259-9231.
00:11:52.000 800-259-9231. Tom Jancredo joining us.
00:11:57.000 So we have our illustrious Republican Congress that passed HR 4757.
00:12:13.000 4757, Our Lady of Peace Act, the most draconian gun control bill since the 1968 Gun Control Act, and now this headline, GOP targets pro-borders, Tancredo.
00:12:25.000 Basics, ladies and gentlemen.
00:12:26.000 If you try to sneak into other countries, they will shoot you, especially Mexico. 0.99
00:12:32.000 And now we have Mexican troops shooting up Border Patrol vehicles on a weekly basis.
00:12:37.000 We have massive drug dealing, incredible corruption, an outbreak of hemorrhagic fever over the Texas border last week.
00:12:44.000 That's akin to Ebola.
00:12:46.000 Drug-resistant TB.
00:12:47.000 Russian mafia taking over Los Angeles.
00:12:50.000 Asian triads on the East and West Coast.
00:12:53.000 Where does it end?
00:12:54.000 And the media balkanizing everybody with this multiculturalism.
00:12:58.000 And that's the point you were trying to make, Congressman, in the last segment, was we do see a balkanization.
00:13:03.000 These people are not trying to go into the melting pot, are they?
00:13:06.000 They are not.
00:13:07.000 They do not come here for that reason, even.
00:13:09.000 They do not come here. 1.00
00:13:11.000 When you ask them, you know, we will talk to Border Patrol people and INS agents at length, and they'll say, you know, Most of these folks aren't coming here to be Americans.
00:13:22.000 They are coming here to get a job, get some money, eventually send it back home, maybe return, but the reality is they're not interested in becoming Americans. 0.71
00:13:31.000 And this is different.
00:13:33.000 This is not your father's immigration plan.
00:13:38.000 It is a new phenomenon.
00:13:40.000 And it's something that is going to destroy this country.
00:13:43.000 I say this over and over again.
00:13:45.000 That massive immigration into this country will determine not just what kind of country we are, that is, balkanized, divided, or united. 1.00
00:13:53.000 It will determine whether we will be a country at all.
00:13:55.000 And I believe that with all my heart, and I will therefore never surrender this fight.
00:14:00.000 And I don't care who my opposition is, and I don't care how powerful they are.
00:14:03.000 This is something that goes to the core of our existence and of our continued well-being.
00:14:09.000 Well, Congressman, you say it's political expediency, the Republicans and Democrats to do this, but look at the numbers.
00:14:15.000 You won by 37% over your opponent.
00:14:17.000 I've seen the polls.
00:14:19.000 I already mentioned them.
00:14:20.000 80 plus percent of Americans know this is a problem.
00:14:22.000 It goes across racial lines.
00:14:25.000 So it shows that it's actually an establishment move to balkanize, to subdivide, to divide and conquer this country.
00:14:33.000 Yes, and here's what they think, I believe.
00:14:36.000 You know, you have to say to yourself, why would people who ostensibly go out and ask for votes Why would they not understand what you just said?
00:14:50.000 80% of the people want some control over these borders.
00:14:53.000 Why wouldn't they vote that way?
00:14:55.000 And I'll tell you what I think is going on here.
00:14:59.000 For a lot of folks.
00:15:01.000 What I'm going to talk about now are people that don't necessarily have a hidden agenda.
00:15:08.000 They just want to get reelected.
00:15:09.000 and they think they can have it both ways. They can tander to an immigrant community for votes
00:15:14.000 while at the same time assuaging the concerns of the people who do bring this issue up because
00:15:21.000 they think, well you know it's not their number one issue.
00:15:24.000 It's down there three or four layers and as long as it's never presented to them as being the
00:15:30.000 number one issue white people will vote, they will ignore that constituency.
00:15:35.000 Well, I agree with you, but I listen to talk radio all over the country.
00:15:37.000 I've done 500 interviews in the last 14 months.
00:15:40.000 This is the number one issue.
00:15:41.000 I just wish that people, well, you know, somehow that's got to be communicated to the people who are running for office there.
00:15:46.000 It's the number one issue.
00:15:47.000 Then why would the guy that you just, um, I've forgotten his name, I'm sorry, the newly elected.
00:15:53.000 Bill Halver.
00:15:55.000 Halver.
00:15:56.000 Why, how in the world?
00:15:58.000 Is he from Southern Arizona?
00:15:59.000 Yes.
00:16:00.000 You know, this is amazing.
00:16:02.000 I went to visit a huge chunk of his district.
00:16:06.000 It is his new district.
00:16:08.000 I remember now.
00:16:09.000 It's been redistricted.
00:16:11.000 And the incumbent congressman who's still there, a Democrat, has simply lost that part.
00:16:18.000 This guy took it on.
00:16:20.000 But a big chunk of his district is an Indian reservation.
00:16:25.000 The Tona Autumn Indian Reservation.
00:16:28.000 Where they are begging for help.
00:16:31.000 Where 1,500 people a day come across the border.
00:16:32.000 And the newspapers in Mexico City use horrible racial terms towards the Indians.
00:16:38.000 Yes.
00:16:38.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:16:39.000 Let me tell you, Mexico has a caste system that would make ours look like a cakewalk. 1.00
00:16:46.000 Real quick, one quick call, Congressman, and we'll let you go here.
00:16:49.000 Wayne in Texas, you're on the air.
00:16:50.000 Go ahead.
00:16:52.000 Quickly, Wayne.
00:16:53.000 Go ahead, Wayne.
00:16:54.000 Hi, Alex.
00:16:56.000 Here's my question for the Congressman.
00:16:58.000 There's two issues that I think could galvanize public support.
00:17:01.000 That is, learning more about the criminal statistics about the murderers and rapists.
00:17:06.000 Half of Los Angeles County Jail illegals, yeah.
00:17:09.000 Exactly, but the media covers it up, the mainstream media.
00:17:13.000 And also, the money spent on housing, food stamps, and utility bills, or whatever, that comes out of our taxes... Let me get a quick comment from the Congressman, and then he's got to go and I'll hold you over, Wayne.
00:17:23.000 Congressman, a comment on that?
00:17:24.000 Well, the CIS, Center for Immigration Studies, go to their website.
00:17:29.000 They give you tons of great information on that.
00:17:31.000 Use it when you talk to your Congressman.
00:17:33.000 Send that information to them.
00:17:34.000 Have it in your hand when they're in front of you at a town meeting, and confront them.
00:17:38.000 Alright, Congressman, have a great Thanksgiving, and thank you for spending this time with us.
00:17:42.000 God bless you all.
00:17:43.000 God bless you.
00:17:43.000 We'll be right back, folks.
00:17:44.000 Stay with me.
00:17:45.000 All the callers, stay right there.