Alex Jones Show - 20021128_Agras_Alex

00:00:00.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:10.000 Environmentalists target SUVs with stickers.

00:00:13.000 A Boulder environmentalist told 7 News Tuesday that he put stickers on SUVs to remind the vehicle's owners that they are polluting the air.

00:00:22.000 We had on a guest a year ago that started this.

00:00:25.000 The man identified only as Drew, but we've got him on with us, Drew Agras.

00:00:30.000 Said that he puts bumper stickers with the words, I don't care about the air on parked SUVs.

00:00:34.000 Well, we're on in Boulder.

00:00:36.000 So I guess you can tune into the show there.

00:00:39.000 This practice is a growing trend, both locally and nationally, 7 News reported.

00:00:43.000 And it goes on.

00:00:45.000 Basically, it's labeling cars with owners that I believe really don't care about the air because they've gone and spent a couple thousand dollars on something that pollutes more and is less fuel efficient than other cars, Drew said.

00:00:57.000 We're joined by Drew Agras.

00:01:00.000 And Drew, thanks for joining us today, sir.

00:01:02.000 Thanks very much, Alex.

00:01:04.000 Let me first tell you where I stand, okay?

00:01:07.000 Go ahead.

00:01:08.000 I care about the environment, okay?

00:01:10.000 And I I'm really concerned about the new Scientist article about the Texas company Prote-Gene that put AIDS vaccine and Hepatitis B vaccine and three other nasty things in a corn plant where the corn grows this.

00:01:25.000 The corn kernels have this in them.

00:01:27.000 It's now spread into at least three states.

00:01:30.000 They're now saying they're putting cancer into cows and pigs to make them grow faster and mutate to create new developments.

00:01:37.000 Those have even pro people that are for genetic engineering out of control.

00:01:41.000 This has got them freaked out.

00:01:43.000 But I don't really hear the environmental groups doing something about that.

00:01:46.000 Here in Austin, I see them grabbing farms and ranches with the city and the big corporations, Nature Conservancy, Sierra Club, Audubon Society.

00:01:54.000 I've been to their smart growth conferences.

00:01:55.000 It's all bankers up there.

00:01:57.000 Bank of America, Citibank, all these groups.

00:01:59.000 It just seems like a pretext to attack private property.

00:02:04.000 SUVs putting out a little bit more pollution, and by the way, they've raised air standards.

00:02:08.000 The government even admits it's now much cleaner than it was a decade ago, or 50 years ago, for that matter.

00:02:15.000 It seems like you're polishing silverware on the Titanic and vandalizing cars.

00:02:21.000 Your comments to that?

00:02:23.000 Well, that's a good point.

00:02:24.000 I mean, there's a lot of causes out there for the environment, and I certainly can't fight all of them, and there might even be better causes out there, but SUVs are a problem nowadays, and that's something I feel strongly about.

00:02:35.000 Well, my family has a ranch we've had since 1830, thousands of acres.

00:02:39.000 A lot of it's swamp land.

00:02:41.000 I have a Tahoe four-wheel drive.

00:02:44.000 Should I have to have a special license because I used it?

00:02:47.000 I mean, shouldn't I be able to have an SUV because I go into... but even if I didn't, even if I was driving on the highway, shouldn't I be able to buy whatever car I want?

00:02:56.000 That's a well-used argument.

00:02:58.000 Of course, we live in America and we have all sorts of rights, and if something's for sale, of course you have the right to buy it.

00:03:04.000 I don't argue that.

00:03:06.000 So what, you're just trying to get the people to think about it and not have SUVs, sir?

00:03:11.000 Yeah, I think the main point here is that there's two Problems with SUVs here, there's two actions against us and the environment.

00:03:20.000 One is the government, which hasn't raised standards for light trucks and SUVs in the last 15 years.

00:03:26.000 And the other would be the auto industry itself, which really just sells SUVs as a sort of a sexy, powerful, safe, The feds have raised eight times in the last decade, twice in the last year, general overall emissions.

00:03:47.000 And states in conglomerates and regional governments, totally illegal, are coming up with their own taxing schemes about that.

00:03:54.000 I'm telling you that Kyoto and the rest of it are being rammed through by the oil companies So they can just jack up oil prices and sell us a plentiful commodity by artificially restricting the amount of it, just like the Bureau does with its diamond monopoly.

00:04:10.000 And I'm telling you, you're being used.

00:04:11.000 Have you ever been to a Smart Growth Conference?

00:04:13.000 A Smart Growth Conference?

00:04:14.000 No, I haven't.

00:04:16.000 Okay, what organizations are you a member of, Drew?

00:04:20.000 Actually, the only organization about this particular problem is my website itself.

00:04:26.000 And tell us about that.

00:04:29.000 Basically trying to promote a little bit more education about SUVs and traffic patterns and transportation itself as compared to the either misinformation or lack of information that the auto industry actually gives us.

00:04:42.000 That is, I don't care about the air.

00:04:45.000 That's right.

00:04:47.000 Now, when you said that pollution standards have increased over the last couple of years, that's only a very specific and small amount of pollution of actually the emissions controls have increased.

00:04:58.000 And that is smog-emitting pollutants have actually decreased, or the standards have been increased in the last couple of years.

00:05:04.000 But when it comes to CO2, which is the main global warming factor, they say, say the scientists are 90%... Drew, I'm not here to divide people.

00:05:13.000 Right. 0.93

00:05:14.000 I'm not here to attack you and call you an environmentalist, you wacko. 1.00

00:05:17.000 That's fine. 0.53

00:05:17.000 No, I'm not here to call you that, but I want you to listen to me. 0.53

00:05:20.000 Go ahead.

00:05:21.000 I've been to the Smart Growth Conferences.

00:05:23.000 I've made films.

00:05:25.000 I've been involved.

00:05:26.000 I've seen it.

00:05:26.000 And let me tell you again, That if you will just go to the major environmental group websites, they're all run by Monsanto and ExxonMobil and the rest of them, and Dutch Rochelle, that basically finances the National Geographic propaganda land grab channel.

00:05:43.000 The NRA supports the CARA bill to grab $47 billion of private land.

00:05:47.000 So the very people I'm sure that you don't like are the very people that are really Trojan horses pushing this whole movement.

00:05:55.000 Now they're saying major universities, major studies, people that did believe in global warming, now they're saying we're entering global cooling.

00:06:04.000 The Earth has cycles, and you know a volcano.

00:06:08.000 This is admitted.

00:06:08.000 Mount St.

00:06:09.000 Helens put out more emissions than the whole U.S.

00:06:12.000 did for the whole decade of the 80s.

00:06:14.000 Now, that's the government's own numbers.

00:06:16.000 Now, how do you answer that, and why are you so obsessed with restricting mobility?

00:06:20.000 You said traffic patterns.

00:06:22.000 You call that smart growth, don't you?

00:06:24.000 Actually, I shouldn't have said traffic patterns, but really more trends in buying SUVs, for instance, or light trucks.

00:06:30.000 Back in 1975, after the oil crisis, about 20% of cars sold were light trucks, and that was mostly farmers and other industries.

00:06:38.000 Today, it's just past 50% of all new cars are SUVs and light trucks.

00:06:44.000 Now, that says a lot.

00:06:45.000 I mean, even if you say that fuel standards have increased and emissions have decreased, The trends in buying have dramatically changed.

00:06:52.000 We are using another 8 million barrels of oil a day than we were in the 70s.

00:06:57.000 Now, I've studied this.

00:06:58.000 What I'm trying to explain to you is they are now putting cancer viruses in the cows to make them produce more milk.

00:07:06.000 I have the New Scientist here in front of me.

00:07:08.000 I have the Times of London here in front of me.

00:07:11.000 They are putting HIV experimental vaccine in corn, sir.

00:07:15.000 That makes SUV stuff not even on the radar.

00:07:21.000 I agree.

00:07:22.000 That's an incredibly weird scientific report.

00:07:25.000 I haven't heard it and it sounds terrible.

00:07:27.000 I agree with you.

00:07:28.000 Let me read it to you then, since you're here.

00:07:30.000 No, that's Putin brings back Soviet Red Star. 0.93

00:07:33.000 Visa's issued to 105 terrorist watch list.

00:07:35.000 No, Los Angeles prosecutors won't file charges in remaining Rampart cases.

00:07:39.000 No, that's...

00:07:40.000 Italian doctor says clone baby due January.

00:07:42.000 No, that's all coming up.

00:07:43.000 Hold on.

00:07:44.000 Hurdles remain for arming airline pilots.

00:07:46.000 Hmm.

00:07:46.000 Oh, here it is.

00:07:47.000 This is the London Observer.

00:07:49.000 Also, Tom's won it on this.

00:07:51.000 Researchers have developed a technique to speed evolution by inserting human cancer genes, cancer-causing genes, into animals and plants.

00:07:59.000 Scientists condemn new gene technique.

00:08:00.000 Hundreds of mutant breeds, which would normally take nature millennia to produce, will be developed in months by the method known as hyper-mutation ability.

00:08:08.000 But the technique designed to improve production of new animal and crop breeds has shocked many scientists and environmentalists.

00:08:13.000 Some say the process could result in organisms and human cancer causing genes being released into the environment.

00:08:18.000 Others worry that attempts to accelerate evolution could be dangerous.

00:08:21.000 however it's creator of the u_s_-based company more photo tag

00:08:24.000 should all be arrested so that could be valuable to drug and agriculture companies

00:08:28.000 hanging up all the isolate highly profitable breed drought-resistant plant or

00:08:32.000 milk rich cows details of the methods were pressed

00:08:36.000 uh... passed by the observer last week by a senior british researcher working on

00:08:40.000 one of europe's largest biotech corporations although a keen supporter of

00:08:43.000 g_m_ technology the scientist was dismayed to learn about morphotech's

00:08:47.000 plans after his directors launched a sales tour of Europe.

00:08:51.000 He said, what would happen if the organism containing such a dangerous gene escaped?

00:08:55.000 What if a gene got into the food chain?

00:08:56.000 Some people could suffer fatal reactions.

00:08:58.000 Now, the FDA has authorized full release of this open air.

00:09:02.000 Let me read to you the open air test of this, then I'll get your response.

00:09:06.000 And you'll stop this SUV business if you really care about the environment.

00:09:09.000 This is the new scientist, GM crop mishaps unite friends and foes.

00:09:15.000 Goes on to report mysterious pharmacological GM crop goes wrong in the US.

00:09:19.000 Texas based company ProteiGene has been given authorization for the transmittable, according

00:09:28.000 to GSDM records, ProteiGene has received 85 test permits for experimental open air trials

00:09:34.000 of pharmacological GM crops and chemical crops for planting in at least 96 locations.

00:09:39.000 It's now spread to three states into soybean crops that they don't even own, by the way.

00:09:44.000 Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota.

00:09:46.000 AIDS vaccine, this is what's in the corn.

00:09:48.000 Age Vaccine GP120, a glycoprotein, blood clotting agent, artopine, tri-spin, digestive enzyme that can cause the use in leather tanning or produce insulin, industrial adhesive, lax case, an enzyme derived from fungus, other pharmacological GM crops are poorly grown by proteogen, include experimental oral vaccines for hepatitis B and for a pig disease, transmittable gastrotricitis, according to USDA records.

00:10:13.000 Now, you still worried about SUVs?

00:10:15.000 Yes, I am.

00:10:16.000 I think there's a lot of problems in the environment today, and I think that you have a very interesting case there that we should be looking into some farming policies.

00:10:24.000 Now, there's problems everywhere.

00:10:25.000 There's farming policies, there's transmittal of cancer-causing chemicals, all sorts of stuff, but I maintain that there's not one thing that we should fight against.

00:10:37.000 I think there's many.

00:10:37.000 Yeah, but you notice, there you are in Boulder involving the environment.

00:10:41.000 You notice you knew all about the evil SUVs.

00:10:45.000 Which aren't causing a problem.

00:10:46.000 I've looked at the scientific data from all sides.

00:10:48.000 But you feel good about that, because the news has given you some issue of no significance to attack mobility and freedom of movement and all this, and property rights, and the roads we paid for.

00:10:58.000 But you don't know about mass wickedness, do you?

00:11:02.000 Mass wickedness?

00:11:03.000 Yeah, that's what this is. 1.00

00:11:04.000 This is cancer garbage. 1.00

00:11:06.000 This is mass evil, buddy. 1.00

00:11:08.000 This is late night horror science fiction flick.

00:11:11.000 Yeah, I'd sort of argue that the auto industry as a whole represents a mass wickedness against our environment with SUVs as well.

00:11:19.000 Well, I've heard the environmental group say they want to ban our cars and have satellite tracker boxes to tax us when we drive.

00:11:25.000 Have you heard of that?

00:11:26.000 Yeah, I don't go that far.

00:11:27.000 I really don't believe we need to restrict our freedom for transportation at all.

00:11:30.000 Well, that's the U.S. 0.87

00:11:31.000 government plan starting in 2005.

00:11:33.000 And I wouldn't support that at all.

00:11:35.000 Alright, I've been running over you.

00:11:36.000 I want to get some more comments from you on the other side.

00:11:38.000 Please stay with us.

00:11:41.000 Unbelievable. 0.90

00:11:42.000 And then we hear the phony conservatives say, oh, look at these environmentalist wackos. 0.96

00:11:46.000 Now, this is a dangerous movement, folks, controlled by the very groups that are decrying them.

00:11:51.000 In a political dialectic of dog and pony show, we cut through that to the real issues that affect all of us.

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00:12:24.000 Welcome back, I'm Alex Jones.

00:12:26.000 The websites are InfoWars.com, InfoWars.net, JonesReport.com, and now CruisinPlanet.com.

00:12:34.000 We're talking to Drew Agras, environmentalist who goes around sticking bumper stickers on people's cars.

00:12:42.000 What do the bumper stickers say that you stick on SUVs, Drew?

00:12:46.000 Uh, yeah, actually we have quite a number of stickers.

00:12:48.000 I don't actually do the tagging of cars myself, but there's a National network of people who do some of the stickers say I don't care about the air That's the the original sticker.

00:12:59.000 So well, you know, I thought that they're placed on SUVs in order to Make the owner who has to peel it off.

00:13:07.000 Think about what they're actually doing.

00:13:09.000 Well, I've I've never been a vandal but once I saw a million mommy and 100 Bureaucrat March sticker on a car and I couldn't help myself, no.

00:13:17.000 But I guess you're for disarming the American people, too.

00:13:20.000 Are you for gun control?

00:13:23.000 Actually, I am, yes.

00:13:25.000 See, I don't think you're a bad person, Drew, but you need to figure out a few things.

00:13:29.000 You notice the cops are wearing black uniforms and ski masks now?

00:13:32.000 Have you noticed that they're keeping tabs on people like you in Boulder, in Denver, illegal police files?

00:13:39.000 Sure you heard about that, right?

00:13:40.000 Oh yeah, sure.

00:13:41.000 Well, why do you want to disarm me, then, when they're building giant prison camps everywhere?

00:13:45.000 Well, actually, you know, I guess I'd actually be for gun control in the... because of the lack of education with using guns.

00:13:54.000 I think if they had a better program... Because some people do something wrong, let's punish everybody.

00:13:59.000 You see, you need to become an American and a constitutionalist.

00:14:03.000 I agree with you that people should have the right to have guns if they know how to use them better.

00:14:08.000 Somebody, you know, a child here in Colorado died the other day because they found a gun.

00:14:13.000 His brother found a gun on a nightstand.

00:14:15.000 Twelve times the number of children died here in automobile accidents.

00:14:18.000 Right.

00:14:18.000 Three times the number of children died here drowning.

00:14:21.000 We're going to ban swimming pools, ban lakes, ban ponds?

00:14:23.000 What do you think about safety belt laws?

00:14:25.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:14:26.000 Let me tell you something.

00:14:27.000 Once they go after something, they destroy it, and the plan of this government is to totally disarm the American people.

00:14:32.000 Let's take a call.

00:14:33.000 Who's up first here, Mark?

00:14:36.000 Cody in West Virginia.

00:14:38.000 You're on the air, Cody, with our guest, Drew.

00:14:41.000 How you guys doing?

00:14:43.000 Yeah, they say there's like over 700 times doctors that killed people on mishaps and stuff, and there are gun accidents.

00:14:53.000 Yeah, that's the actual Justice Department numbers.

00:14:54.000 Yeah, and with the SUVs, you also got to consider when you're using SUVs and pickup trucks, You're also carrying, people are also carrying bigger loads, loads that can't be carried in cars.

00:15:11.000 There are also loads that would take three cars.

00:15:14.000 Most of the people that have SUVs have got, hold on, have got three or four children.

00:15:19.000 They've got to put all the baseballs and basketballs and hockey gear in the back.

00:15:24.000 I mean, look.

00:15:26.000 I'd like to comment on that, actually.

00:15:28.000 Let me tell you something.

00:15:29.000 You want to get involved in regulating our lives, and it's wrong, and you're serving the very globalists you think you're fighting.

00:15:35.000 Actually, we definitely ask people to not tag pickup trucks, which are used in agriculture and construction, not tag anything that has a company logo on the side of the truck.

00:15:46.000 You're absolutely right, Cody, that many SUVs or light trucks are used for industry and farming, and that's something that we don't fight against.

00:15:53.000 But if you hang out on the street corner and watch what's driving by, it's mostly Single people driving huge excursions. 1.00

00:16:00.000 And I'm going to make a film about this.

00:16:02.000 In Austin they put 16 face scanning cameras per bus.

00:16:06.000 Over half the buses have no one on them at any time.

00:16:09.000 They block lanes of traffic.

00:16:10.000 They belt black smoke.

00:16:12.000 This is just the bus companies of the big corrupt metro systems wanting to go after our cars.

00:16:17.000 They've said it.

00:16:18.000 The Wall Street Journal reported the smart growth movement wants to slow the speed of traffic to the speed of a horse and buggy.

00:16:24.000 Yeah, and I know people out in rural areas are using SUVs and stuff more efficiently.

00:16:29.000 Well, it doesn't matter.

00:16:30.000 It's not people's business.

00:16:32.000 It's not people's business what we drive and what we do.

00:16:35.000 Now they want to tax fast food.

00:16:37.000 Are you for taxing fast food?

00:16:39.000 I never heard of that.

00:16:40.000 No, I'm not.

00:16:40.000 You haven't heard the Department of Agriculture wants to start taxing foods that are too fattening aren't good for us?

00:16:46.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:16:47.000 Here in Virginia, they're taxing meals and stuff at restaurants.

00:16:53.000 They got two taxes on that.

00:16:56.000 It's out of control.

00:16:57.000 It's out of control.

00:16:58.000 The Kyoto Protocol is about taxing our fuel for the United Nations criminal system.

00:17:03.000 I guess you probably think the UN is good too, right Drew?

00:17:07.000 That's a different subject.

00:17:09.000 You need to educate yourself Drew.

00:17:12.000 Let me ask you a final question.

00:17:14.000 You are polishing silverware on the deck of the Titanic.

00:17:19.000 Shouldn't you get concerned when pointing out the genetic engineering?

00:17:23.000 Maybe I should create a website about that as well.

00:17:25.000 Hey Alex, can I say something about that genetic engineering thing?

00:17:29.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:17:30.000 With the genetic engineering and the cancer agents that are in milks and stuff that they're selling now, dairy products, Uh, we gotta clarify that this isn't your average small farmer and working farmer.

00:17:41.000 No, they're infecting the... These are corporation farms.

00:17:44.000 The globalists are infecting the whole food chain on purpose so they can then come in and regulate it.

00:17:49.000 Uh, last word, Drew, what'd you want to say?

00:17:50.000 I was just gonna say that, um, you know, the government is there for a purpose and I wonder what your opinion that purpose is for if it's not for the protection of our citizens.

00:18:00.000 Protection?

00:18:01.000 No, no, no.

00:18:01.000 The government is not there and the courts have ruled that they have no duty to protect us.

00:18:05.000 They're there to feed on us as a criminal organization.

00:18:08.000 This is an unconstitutional government.

00:18:09.000 Wake up!

Alex Jones Show - November 28, 2002

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