Alex Jones Show - November 28, 2002


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A mock bioterrorism drill at a high school in Arizona left children crying and fainting because of the stress of getting tetanus shots. The drill was carried out by the Arizona Department of Public Safety and included a mock antibiotic delivery truck and a machine gun.

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00:00:01.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:00:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:15.000 One of the many provisions of Homeland Security that interfaces with the USA Patriot Act, H.R.
00:00:24.000 3162, I suggest you go read the legislation.
00:00:28.000 Is section 76 of Homeland Security forced inoculation and of course blanket protection for all the pharmaceutical companies on any subject.
00:00:40.000 We'll get into that, my friends, and now they've announced they're going to go ahead and vaccinate 10 million Americans now with the experimental vaccine.
00:00:48.000 Half the Air Force is now quitting, according to CBS News, over the anthrax shot, which has been admitted to cause major health problems.
00:00:56.000 That's coming up, mainstream news from the Associated Press and the Times of London today for you.
00:01:01.000 Here's the headline.
00:01:02.000 The Arizona Republic bottlenecks Verizon, mock a tug, bioterror event checks readiness for high school.
00:01:08.000 Officers with assault rifles and paramedics armed with hypodermic needles invaded Mesa's Westwood High School on Thursday.
00:01:15.000 Says that the children passed out, fainted.
00:01:18.000 It was a military drill all over the city and they gave them tetanus shots.
00:01:23.000 Joining us is Mary Comelli, Deputy Chief of Mesa Fire Department, who took part in the, I guess you couldn't call it an exercise, it was real shots.
00:01:34.000 Mary Comelli, thank you for joining me, Deputy Chief.
00:01:37.000 Hi Alex, thanks for having me on.
00:01:38.000 You bet!
00:01:39.000 So, tell us all about it.
00:01:41.000 Okay, what this was, was we decided All these kids were needing tetanus shots anyway.
00:01:46.000 There's over 3,000 students that needed this tetanus shot by January of 2003 in order to be allowed to go back to school.
00:01:54.000 We decided that we would, since we had to give them these shots, we would incorporate a drill into this shot.
00:01:59.000 Now it says in the Arizona Republic, tell me if they're wrong.
00:02:02.000 On the major paper for the state, that they didn't know they were going to get the shots.
00:02:08.000 Some of them were crying and fainting and the men had the machine guns and it was very scary.
00:02:13.000 No, no.
00:02:14.000 The students all knew.
00:02:15.000 We actually had the Mesa Public School System actually sent out a consent form.
00:02:19.000 All of these students knew they were getting a shot.
00:02:21.000 But it said it was going to happen in January.
00:02:25.000 And they thought it was coming in January.
00:02:27.000 It says they cried and fainted.
00:02:30.000 I got the article on InfoWars.com because the machine gun scared them with the shots.
00:02:34.000 Yeah, no, actually there were two parts to this drill and I think there was some confusion there.
00:02:38.000 The morning part, they knew they were getting a shot that day.
00:02:40.000 And it was the regular anxiety of getting a shot that caused them to, who had student passed out, very much anxiety of getting a shot.
00:02:49.000 They all knew they were getting a shot.
00:02:50.000 Their parents signed a consent form that they would be getting the shot that day.
00:02:54.000 The drill was for all of us.
00:02:56.000 That was for the healthcare professionals, the firefighters, the county health, the Mesa Public Schools, to see how quickly we could get through getting these tetanus shots.
00:03:04.000 Now the Arizona Daily Star says the military was involved.
00:03:07.000 How were they involved?
00:03:08.000 Okay, in the afternoon portion of the drill, the morning part was immunizing 3,000 students throughout the city.
00:03:14.000 So they all were aware they were getting the shots.
00:03:15.000 We did that portion.
00:03:17.000 The afternoon portion of the drill is where we were doing like a mock antibiotic pill dispensing.
00:03:22.000 We had over 200 volunteers come in.
00:03:25.000 And the county was overseeing this project where we had people come in, had to give their medical history to pharmacists and things like that to see which antibiotics they should be given for a possible anthrax type of exposure.
00:03:35.000 Now I heard Walmart's been helping in these drills in Texas and other areas.
00:03:39.000 They hand out jelly beans as if they were the antibiotics.
00:03:42.000 What did you do in this case?
00:03:43.000 What we did was we had actual just empty pill bottles.
00:03:46.000 They were marked with a certain antibiotic on the outside.
00:03:49.000 It was just an empty pill bottle.
00:03:50.000 What the military did was they were the ones that transported these pills that came down from Tucson, and they just did a mock as to how they would actually transport this medication and protect it.
00:03:59.000 So it was military standing by this vehicle that had all the medications inside.
00:04:03.000 Well, you say the children were fainting and crying because of the shots, and I certainly remember getting shots when I was young, and sometimes I would get a little upset, but certainly I can buy that part.
00:04:12.000 But, you know, I've made a film called The Road to Tyranny.
00:04:16.000 And I have video of these drills, one up in Detroit where a cop actually had a gun loaded and shot a child in the face, but that was a side issue.
00:04:25.000 And the children, this is a separate issue up there, there's a bunch of clips from around the country, they start crying because the men in black uniforms with the guns scares them and they would practice loading them on buses as part of a FEMA controlled drill according to the Associated Press in the film.
00:04:42.000 Now, I know they have other programs there in town, the school lockdowns and the drills, so I don't know if we can say they were crying just because of the shots.
00:04:50.000 It also concerns the children to have the men with the guns.
00:04:54.000 You know what, though, Alex, just to let you know, that was two parts of the drills.
00:04:57.000 The first part with the shots had nothing to do with the guns.
00:04:59.000 The medications came in in the afternoon where the kids were not.
00:05:03.000 part of that girl what a johnson jonathan uh... side narrative so he was
00:05:07.000 there the writer of this article is on a public says all the people who saw a lot of the paramedics are not
00:05:13.000 very needles invaded mason's bus with high school on thursday
00:05:16.000 how was the school he was attending uh... what have you heard about the plans to forcibly inoculate
00:05:21.000 in our population
00:05:23.000 uh... no did you think that i had a hard population
00:05:28.000 Yeah, go to whitehouse.gov.
00:05:30.000 That's the president's website.
00:05:32.000 I'm sure you know that.
00:05:33.000 That's the president's website for those that don't know.
00:05:35.000 It's the White House.
00:05:36.000 You can link on Homeland Security legislation he just signed two days ago.
00:05:39.000 Right.
00:05:40.000 And section 76 is for forced inoculations for the mere threat of bioterrorism.
00:05:45.000 Have you heard that you as a firefighter are going to be getting a mandatory smallpox injection?
00:05:50.000 No, not yet.
00:05:52.000 I don't want to just say that.
00:05:54.000 Let me just read you the article. The U.S. is about to start vaccinating millions for smallpox.
00:05:58.000 London Guardian, up to 10 million U.S. health workers, police officers and firefighters are
00:06:02.000 to be vaccinated against smallpox, according to a Bush administration official. Half a million
00:06:06.000 health workers will be vaccinated in the next few weeks against the possibility of a bioterror attack,
00:06:10.000 according to the report.
00:06:11.000 President Bush is expected to announce shortly the plan to carry out the rolling smallpox vaccination program seen in the television news reported yesterday.
00:06:18.000 The Department of Health and Human Services has asked all 50 states to submit a mass vaccination plan by December 1st for the use of actual smallpox vaccine.
00:06:25.000 It goes on to say they're going to vaccinate all the firefighters and police in the country.
00:06:28.000 Are you aware, ma'am, this is an experimental vaccine they admit will cause death and illnesses in some?
00:06:33.000 Yeah, this is the first I've heard of that.
00:06:36.000 Well, now, because you sound like a really nice lady, and I love firefighters.
00:06:41.000 I've got a lot of firefighters in the family, and I think you guys are great.
00:06:45.000 But let me warn you, will you please go to InfoWars.com after this interview and read the mainstream news articles about half the Air Force quitting now over the anthrax shot?
00:06:54.000 Yeah, sure.
00:06:59.000 I'm sure you've heard about some of the problems they have with the anthrax shot.
00:07:02.000 Uh-huh.
00:07:02.000 Well, I just don't want our firefighters... I mean, you guys are going to be used as mashed guinea pigs for this smallpox shot.
00:07:09.000 Right.
00:07:10.000 And I've had doctors on the show in the 60s with the last smallpox outbreaks in this country, only 13% of those that were infected died and they were generally old or sick and did not get treatment quickly.
00:07:23.000 Only 32% die in the third world where they have no sewage or antibiotics.
00:07:28.000 I just don't see why they want to vaccinate everybody.
00:07:32.000 Well, we'll have to look into that.
00:07:34.000 That's the first I heard of it today.
00:07:35.000 Well, I mean, you don't have to just do whatever they tell you to do.
00:07:40.000 You have rights.
00:07:41.000 You're a citizen.
00:07:42.000 You're not in the military.
00:07:43.000 You don't have to follow these orders.
00:07:44.000 You're not under Article 88.
00:07:48.000 So what type of response have you gotten in the community to the bioterror event?
00:07:55.000 Very positive, actually, because we're showing how to get prepared.
00:07:58.000 I think the confusion here was that there were two parts of the drill that were put together.
00:08:02.000 They were two separate drills.
00:08:04.000 It wasn't like any children were at gunpoint, anything like that.
00:08:07.000 That had nothing to do with the kids getting immunized.
00:08:09.000 That came later in the day with them transporting medication, antibiotics, and they were simulating all that.
00:08:14.000 It all happened at the school, but the morning was with the kids, and the afternoon was with 200 volunteers that knew just what was going on.
00:08:20.000 I think that part maybe got a little Confused, but the drill overall was very well for us, and the drill was for us, firefighters, county health officials, Mississippi Public Schools, to work together.
00:08:31.000 So if we did have something that we had to do, like mass immunizations or just a mass type of bioterrorism attack, we're that much more prepared to deal with it.
00:08:40.000 Well, tabletop exercises, was this the first that you had been involved with with the federal government?
00:08:46.000 You know, we've done tabletop all along, Alex.
00:08:48.000 This is the first time we actually did like hands-on with people coming in and giving their medications or And we do immunizations all year, too.
00:08:55.000 It's the first time we made it into a drill for us.
00:08:57.000 Our firefighters do immunizations all year.
00:08:59.000 I'm sure you heard about Denver two years ago with an operation, Controlled Mayhem, is what it was dubbed.
00:09:07.000 I had a city councilwoman on from Denver. 1.00
00:09:09.000 They practiced rounding people up, putting them in the sports stadium.
00:09:12.000 It was unannounced for about six hours.
00:09:14.000 They thought it was a real attack.
00:09:16.000 We had similar events here in Austin.
00:09:19.000 We had a fake nuclear spill they announced was real for six hours.
00:09:22.000 Called out the military.
00:09:23.000 We had eight separate fake bio-attacks.
00:09:25.000 I have video of all that in the road to Taring.
00:09:28.000 Then they had one north of Austin in a town called Belton.
00:09:30.000 And I pull up, the Army walks up, Marines walk up and say, what are you doing here?
00:09:34.000 I said, well, I'm here to videotape this in downtown Belton.
00:09:37.000 They then blew up two cars.
00:09:39.000 The mayor announced a real attack and then later retracted it.
00:09:42.000 I wonder why, have you heard the feds talk about, I know they didn't do this in your case, but in some of these drills they don't tell the public at first to gauge the response.
00:09:51.000 Yeah, I didn't know they did it to that extent without people being aware of the drill.
00:09:56.000 Everybody that was in our drill in the afternoon knew they were going to be in a drill.
00:09:59.000 Have you heard of the Urban Warfare Training Ops, where they call the troops in and they don't warn the people that they're going to be attacking a building they've covertly leased?
00:10:07.000 Have you heard of those?
00:10:08.000 I've heard of those at times.
00:10:10.000 I wonder why they would do something where they don't warn you and then a thousand troops show up.
00:10:14.000 I don't understand that.
00:10:16.000 Likely I do.
00:10:17.000 Right.
00:10:18.000 I can probably only speculate, Alex.
00:10:21.000 As to why they do that, just so it's as realistic as possible for the ones that are being put through the drill, I guess.
00:10:27.000 For the training purposes.
00:10:28.000 We're talking to Mary Camelli, Deputy Chief of Mesa Fire Department.
00:10:32.000 Will you be doing more of these exercises?
00:10:36.000 You know, we're going to evaluate this one and see, just kind of see where bottlenecks were, where things were that we can improve on for next time.
00:10:44.000 We continue doing tabletops and we will continue doing tabletops.
00:10:47.000 We don't always have the opportunity to do hands-on like on this opportunity of giving these students their tetanus shots, which is what they needed anyway in two months.
00:10:55.000 So we'll see how it goes and evaluate this last drill and see when and if we'll put on another one.
00:11:01.000 It was a good experience for all the health care providers that were involved in this one.
00:11:04.000 But interfacing with the military and the federal government?
00:11:09.000 Right, actually that was the DPS officers that came in and brought the medications in.
00:11:14.000 So, that was a good experience for all of us to see how that operation took place.
00:11:18.000 Well, just a side issue.
00:11:19.000 I should have a police public spokesman person on for this, but have you heard about knock and talk there in Mesa?
00:11:28.000 Nope.
00:11:29.000 Can't say I have.
00:11:30.000 What is that?
00:11:31.000 Well, that's where they go to your door and just ask you about your guns.
00:11:34.000 You haven't heard about that?
00:11:35.000 No.
00:11:35.000 Because Mesa's doing that.
00:11:37.000 Yeah, that would probably be a question for the police department.
00:11:39.000 So is Fresno and Los Angeles and Dallas, Texas.
00:11:45.000 Yeah, most people in law enforcement, peace officers, firefighters, are good people.
00:11:52.000 And I think you guys are being led around.
00:11:55.000 These urban warfare training drills, these unannounced ones that you have heard of, I have video of them, they terrorize the public.
00:12:01.000 All of this is part of a conditioning process.
00:12:04.000 to take the forced vaccinations that are in Section 76 as part of a larger plan to set a precedent
00:12:10.000 to take our bodily fluids when they wish, to take DNA databases to vaccinate us when they wish.
00:12:15.000 They're giving total liability protection to the vaccine makers and I would advise you,
00:12:20.000 please, for your own health, to please research what I've said at InfoWars.com and find out
00:12:27.000 just how dangerous many of these vaccines, these experimental vaccines,
00:12:32.000 anthrax, smallpox, and others are that are being foisted upon you.
00:12:37.000 You do not have to take those injections and believe me, if you get health problems from it, tens of thousands of troops did after the Gulf War, you won't be given any treatment.
00:12:47.000 Well, I'll definitely look into that.
00:12:49.000 I appreciate that information.
00:12:51.000 Well, I appreciate you doing this, and I appreciate you coming on the show.
00:12:55.000 Again, Deputy Chief of the Mesa Fire Department.
00:13:00.000 Take care, Mary.
00:13:01.000 All right.
00:13:01.000 You too.
00:13:02.000 Talk to you later.
00:13:03.000 Bye-bye.
00:13:03.000 Bye.
00:13:04.000 That right there is why this country is gone.
00:13:07.000 That is a nice lady, that is a good person who believes in America, and if I'd have just said in her face, hey, the government's a CIA terror group, this is mass takeover, she wouldn't have listened.
00:13:19.000 I'd have to just hope she goes and reads, oh, half the Air Force is quitting. 0.98
00:13:23.000 Oh, I guess they're not patriots.
00:13:25.000 Uh, no.
00:13:25.000 They've seen their family members die.
00:13:27.000 They have seen the mass death.
00:13:29.000 40 plus thousand dead U.S.
00:13:30.000 troops, according to a Senate report.
00:13:32.000 40,000 dead!
00:13:34.000 And what did the Associated Press report last Monday?
00:13:38.000 U.S.
00:13:38.000 Court of Appeals, highest court of appeals in D.C., second highest court in the land, has now announced no more health care for World War II and Korean War veterans and Vietnam veterans.
00:13:50.000 No more health care.
00:13:51.000 No more health care.
00:13:53.000 No more health care if you're over 65 right when you need it. 0.86
00:14:00.000 I don't even have time to read all these articles.
00:14:01.000 I got three more guests coming up and we got a bunch of callers here.
00:14:05.000 We got a whole bunch of callers.