Alex Jones Show - December 07, 2002


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Chris Boyarsky of the Illinois Council Against Handgun violence joins host Alex Jones to discuss gun control and the proposed ban on all gun ads in newspapers and TV stations. He also explains why he supports the Our Lady of Peace Act, which would require all Americans to register their guns.

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00:00:01.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:11.000 Waging war on corruption, crashing the lives of disinformation.
00:00:16.000 Last hour we had a London Telegraph columnist on who was arrested for saying that rural communities should have the same rights as other minorities.
00:00:23.000 In this country, they're passing thought crimes legislation as well.
00:00:26.000 Republicans are greedily signing it, out-punting Clinton.
00:00:30.000 I know we've got a lot of callers here.
00:00:32.000 You'll have a chance to get on the air here in just the next few minutes.
00:00:35.000 I saw a story today, group attacks gun ads.
00:00:38.000 This is out of the PJ Star newspaper.
00:00:41.000 Organization says newspapers should police themselves on firearm sales.
00:00:46.000 There's also been a move to pass laws nationwide banning gun ads.
00:00:50.000 In print, and even on television.
00:00:53.000 And, uh, wow, this is very interesting.
00:00:55.000 We have Chris Boyster, down-to-state director of the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence on the classified ads loophole, and he joins us from Illinois right now, where the mayor and the governor and others have said they want a total gun ban.
00:01:12.000 Chris Boyster, good to have you on the show today.
00:01:16.000 We have Mr. Boyster.
00:01:18.000 Is he still there?
00:01:21.000 Uh, we're trying to bring him up, maybe we had a difficulty or something.
00:01:25.000 Uh, Mr. Boister, are you... Hello?
00:01:27.000 Yes, good to get you on.
00:01:29.000 Good afternoon, how are ya?
00:01:30.000 Fantastic, sorry about that difficulty.
00:01:32.000 Uh, no problem.
00:01:33.000 Yeah, isn't this a First Amendment violation and you're trying to...
00:01:38.000 Really collude, or what I would call rocketeer, together to put pressure to get people to not take ads?
00:01:43.000 No, this isn't... Let me give you a little bit of clarification on what the newspaper loophole is, and what we're trying to do is we're trying to ask newspapers such as the Eurojournal Star, and the press coverage that we held yesterday, to not run classified ads for guns from non-licensed federally firearm dealers.
00:02:02.000 We're simply asking them to act responsible so that if they do conduct, if they do That'll be that.
00:02:10.000 The background check is conducted.
00:02:12.000 And that the guns do not get in the hands of the wrong people.
00:02:15.000 But isn't that just a baby step towards what you call the gun show loophole?
00:02:19.000 The way most of the state laws are written that have passed, I can't go over to my neighbor's house and show a gun to three people and sell it.
00:02:26.000 It'll shut down flea markets, it'll do all this, and you're just trying to shut down the advertising of this.
00:02:32.000 I mean, I've bought guns out of the newspaper before.
00:02:34.000 Criminals are going to get guns, period. 0.98
00:02:36.000 We shouldn't restrict the whole society because there's a few criminals out there.
00:02:40.000 Sir, what we're really trying to do is make sure that a background check is being conducted.
00:02:44.000 Simple.
00:02:45.000 That's simple.
00:02:46.000 So you support the Our Lady of Peace Act that passed the House that Bush said he'll sign that registers all gun owners?
00:02:52.000 What we're doing with this, with the newspaper loophole, is we're asking the newspaper, what we're doing is we're asking the corporations to act as corporate responsibility and Make sure that if they run classified ads for guns, that a background check is being conducted.
00:03:13.000 If you look at the Benjamin Smith case that happened, Benjamin Smith tried to illegally purchase a gun for a dealer.
00:03:20.000 It was found out that he was not eligible.
00:03:23.000 He was rejected for sale.
00:03:25.000 Goes to the Peoria Journal-Star, he finds an ad for a gun, buys it illegally, goes out and commits crime with it.
00:03:32.000 Yeah, but our issue here is requiring Our issue here is following the national campaign to close the newspaper loopholes required that if they run it, they run it through a licensure with a background check.
00:03:47.000 Let me just add something.
00:03:49.000 Let me go back to your question.
00:03:50.000 As far as my organization, we don't have a stamp in the Our Lady of Peace Act and registration.
00:03:56.000 We're not so convinced of registration.
00:03:59.000 In Illinois we have the FOID card system here which requires people to get a FOID card Yeah, now old WWII veterans try to, you know, forget to re-up theirs and they get a SWAT team raid. 0.53
00:04:15.000 You got special state police units that go after gun owners.
00:04:19.000 You got house-to-house searches up there.
00:04:22.000 Look, you can have these arguments all day that, oh, if it'll save one life, let's do it.
00:04:27.000 Where does that end?
00:04:28.000 I mean, cars kill more than guns.
00:04:29.000 People drowning in pools kill more.
00:04:31.000 But people who are... You mentioned cars.
00:04:37.000 Registration laws have improved.
00:04:39.000 Seatbelt laws. 0.98
00:04:40.000 Then why not this and blah blah blah.
00:04:42.000 Seatbelt laws have been proven to save lives. 1.00
00:04:44.000 Yeah.
00:04:45.000 And now they're going to have military checkpoints out to make sure we're wearing our seatbelts.
00:04:49.000 But seatbelts save lives.
00:04:52.000 I mean, that's enforcement of the law.
00:04:52.000 Yeah.
00:04:54.000 The National Rifle Association and other organizations say.
00:04:57.000 The law is the Second Amendment and the law says you will make no law restricting my gun ownership and the Federal Court just ruled they're going to ban most guns in California.
00:05:06.000 I mean, I've read Handgun Control Incorporated's own policy papers.
00:05:09.000 They're on air.
00:05:10.000 They want to take my guns, all my guns.
00:05:12.000 Hitler was for gun control. 0.98
00:05:15.000 So, you know, that's an argument that's often used by the National Rifle Association and the pro-gun lobbyists, that we're out to get the guns, that they're out to get the guns.
00:05:23.000 These are common-sense safety initiatives that make sure that... Andrew Cuomo, the head of HUD, said we're going to ban guns one bite at a time.
00:05:32.000 The issue, I think you're getting off the issue here.
00:05:34.000 No, the issue is you guys want my guns!
00:05:38.000 We don't want guns to get in the hands of people, in the wrong hands of people who shouldn't have them.
00:05:43.000 These are common, you know, every time, that's the issue.
00:05:45.000 You're going to take away my guns.
00:05:49.000 Worldwide, gun control leads to registration, confiscation, extermination.
00:05:54.000 That's historical facts.
00:05:55.000 We have the highest amount of of gun deaths than any other civilization in the world.
00:06:01.000 That's not true anymore.
00:06:02.000 England now has the highest crime rate in the world after total gun man. 0.86
00:06:05.000 We have, the United States of America, has the highest amount, and we have the highest, we have the highest amount of gun deaths than any other nation on the planet.
00:06:13.000 You know, that professor Belisarius just got kicked out of the university.
00:06:17.000 This is all a bunch of disinformation.
00:06:19.000 Maybe you believe it, but, uh, sorry.
00:06:22.000 Well, let me tell you.
00:06:25.000 The point of the newspaper loophole... Let me go back to the newspaper loophole, which was our original discussion.
00:06:33.000 This has nothing to do with creating a law or anything.
00:06:35.000 This is just simply asking corporations to not place classified ads for guns from a non-licensed dealer.
00:06:48.000 So a background check can be conducted.
00:06:50.000 Let me ask you a question.
00:06:51.000 What's wrong with conducting a background check to make sure that a criminal doesn't get a job?
00:06:54.000 Okay, let me tell you.
00:06:55.000 You want me to tell you?
00:06:56.000 You want me to tell you?
00:06:57.000 Okay, you can tell me, because I know you're going to tell me.
00:06:59.000 Okay, Brady 1 started out, five day waiting period.
00:07:02.000 Sheriff does the background check.
00:07:03.000 Then it shifted into the second phase of Brady 1.
00:07:05.000 Brady 2 was defeated, but still being implemented piecemeal.
00:07:09.000 They started FBI NICS instant check system.
00:07:12.000 Which we know, they've been keeping the records, they've been caught doing it.
00:07:15.000 Now they admit, under our Lady of Peace Act, of the Republicans' past, you should love them, they're sworn to get our guns, so is the NRA, their loyal opposition.
00:07:22.000 They have now said that it will register all gun owners, go after misdemeanor gun owners.
00:07:27.000 California, New York Times, today is going to go after about 80% of the guns, saying they're now illegal.
00:07:32.000 Anything semi-automatic, rifle or handgun, will now be illegal.
00:07:36.000 The plan is, incrementally, to get this job done, and now it's happening, And we know what the plan is, and we've gone from 300,000 gun dealers to 24,000 gun dealers.
00:07:47.000 There are whole cities on the west and east coast that don't have a single gun shop.
00:07:51.000 BATF is harassing them.
00:07:53.000 I have the quote here by the head of Handgun Control Inc.
00:07:59.000 Saying that we must completely disarm the American people.
00:08:01.000 That was out of the National Educator Magazine.
00:08:03.000 She was proud of herself, Sarah Brady.
00:08:06.000 Who, by the way, has her own concealed carry permit.
00:08:08.000 So does Barbara Boxer.
00:08:09.000 So does your mayor in Chicago.
00:08:12.000 Now, how do you answer that?
00:08:13.000 Nine children die a day from gun violence in this nation.
00:08:17.000 You count a child under 18, you mean eight gangbangers die a day?
00:08:21.000 Nine children die a day in this nation.
00:08:25.000 You mean eight gangbangers that police shoot die a day?
00:08:28.000 Are you going to tell that to the mother whose innocent child was killed?
00:08:31.000 That's right, I have told that to the mother's innocent child when I went out to face the 100 bureaucrat Marge, but you talked about gangbangers.
00:08:38.000 You talked about gangbangers, but you said that there's something wrong with background checks.
00:08:42.000 But a gangbanger who has a criminal record... Only criminals will have guns.
00:08:47.000 I'm against all your gun control laws.
00:08:48.000 They're all a violation of the Bill of Rights.
00:08:52.000 Well, you're entitled to your beliefs.
00:08:55.000 And that's what makes this nation great.
00:08:57.000 I mean, what makes this nation great is that we're all entitled to believe different things.
00:09:00.000 And we're all entitled.
00:09:02.000 But the mission of my organization and other organizations like mine is to reduce death and injury that's associated with gun violence.
00:09:09.000 Let me read this to you.
00:09:09.000 But let me finish my comment.
00:09:13.000 The issue of the day, it's always this, oh, you know, you're going to take away my rights, you're coming to get my guns.
00:09:22.000 Say that if you want, and believe that if you must.
00:09:24.000 Your story doesn't work.
00:09:26.000 It's all over the newspapers.
00:09:27.000 Nine children die in this nation a day from gun violence.
00:09:30.000 Nine children.
00:09:32.000 Gangbangers.
00:09:32.000 That's not true.
00:09:34.000 I don't consider 18 and 17 year old drug dealers children.
00:09:38.000 Well, what do you consider a three-year-old to ride on the street with their Hot Wheels and they get caught up in a car accident?
00:09:47.000 Is that a gang name?
00:09:49.000 The culture is sick, we're degenerating into animals, and that's why I need more gun rights than ever to protect my family from the urban cesspools that socialist control freaks create.
00:10:01.000 And you're talking about... Like Sarah Brady, our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.
00:10:09.000 sarah brady chairman of anger control incorporated senator howard metz and mom
00:10:12.000 the national educator january nineteen ninety four page three
00:10:19.000 you talk of you right there to you that because our society is is is coming
00:10:27.000 apart that that's what you even need more done
00:10:29.000 The fact is that, and that's what the National Rifle Association and another in the program lobby have been very successful creating a fear in America.
00:10:37.000 Everybody had guns.
00:10:38.000 Don't try the Michael Moore tactic.
00:10:40.000 Everybody had guns.
00:10:43.000 More guns in the fifties and our crime rate was much lower.
00:10:47.000 Guns don't cause crime, my friend!
00:10:52.000 And see, that's one of the things that the National Rifle Association and the Pearl Gun Lobby is saying to some American people, is that they need guns to protect themselves.
00:11:02.000 And if people believe that, so be it.
00:11:05.000 The truth is, is that if you bring your guns home, you're serious.
00:11:07.000 Hey, if you're obsessed with rules like Chicago with a total gun ban for handguns, where you have the high crime rate, D.C., total gun ban, highest crime rate in the U.S.
00:11:18.000 It's where the globalists run things that they have those problems.
00:11:21.000 Okay, let's take a look at the city of Chicago, for instance.
00:11:24.000 Alright, I'll stop running over you, but we gotta break.
00:11:26.000 Just stay with us.
00:11:26.000 I'll let you give out your website.
00:11:28.000 Will you stay with us five more minutes?
00:11:30.000 Uh, yeah, I can.
00:11:31.000 Alright, you're a nice guy.
00:11:33.000 You still won't get my guns.
00:11:35.000 You know, the war started in 1776 when they came for our guns.
00:11:40.000 We will defend the Republic from enemies foreign and domestic.
00:11:42.000 Why don't they deport all the illegals pouring in with their machine guns? 1.00
00:11:46.000 Now that isn't going to happen.
00:11:47.000 Lord Bush wants your guns so bad he can taste it.
00:11:50.000 The NRA has sworn to destroy the Second Amendment.
00:11:53.000 We're smart here.
00:11:54.000 We understand the true paradigm.
00:11:55.000 We're not going to get fooled.
00:11:56.000 We'll be right back.
00:11:58.000 [Music]
00:12:05.000 The phones are loaded with people that want to talk our gas.
00:12:08.000 I just want to point out that throughout history, every time they've registered guns, they've confiscated them.
00:12:14.000 Worldwide, big corporations are giving massive amounts of money to the gun control groups.
00:12:20.000 But despite that, in the U.S., we've been having some victories against these organized systems, these created groups out there.
00:12:32.000 We got the million moms who lose their Tax-free operation there from the major hospital in San Francisco. 1.00
00:12:38.000 There's secret operation there.
00:12:39.000 And don't forget, before we go back to our guests, our task of creating a Socialist America that will only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.
00:12:48.000 Sarah Brady, Chairman of Hanger Control Incorporated, Senator Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator Magazine, January 94, page 3.
00:12:56.000 So whether our guest has this mindset or not, this is where the big shots are leading us.
00:13:01.000 You were telling us how safe we'll be with this system.
00:13:05.000 Please continue, Chris Boyster.
00:13:08.000 Yeah, how are you?
00:13:10.000 Thanks for having me back.
00:13:12.000 And I think before the break you were talking about the city of Chicago.
00:13:17.000 Let me give you an example of how the pro-gun lobby and the National Rifle Association work.
00:13:23.000 You know, you talked about The city of Chicago did a program called Operation Gunsmoke, where they were trying to find out where the illegal guns are coming into the city.
00:13:34.000 Yeah, I'm not even sure what you're talking about.
00:13:37.000 Pardon me?
00:13:38.000 Yeah, loving knock and talk.
00:13:39.000 What guns do you have?
00:13:41.000 Well, what they did was they went to undercover agents, went to gun dealers in suburban areas outside the city, and at some point went up to dealers and He even said that, without a FOID card, he even said that they were going to use the gun in the commission of the crime, and they were sold the gun!
00:14:04.000 So the Illinois Legislature went after, as a result of that, went into a... introduced a legislation that would license dealers so that they would be regulated by and monitored by the Illinois State Police to make sure instances like that don't occur.
00:14:22.000 And the National Rifle Association and the pro-gun lobby did everything in their power to stop it.
00:14:26.000 By the way, the Illinois government wants the national gun records to be handed out to the other organizations like 100 Bureaucrat March and others.
00:14:39.000 Just incredible.
00:14:40.000 What's your website for your organization?
00:14:44.000 www.ichv.org Let's talk to some callers.
00:14:49.000 Russ in North Carolina, you're on with Mr. Boister.
00:14:52.000 Go ahead, Russ, go ahead.
00:14:56.000 Got Eddie here.
00:14:56.000 All right, Russ.
00:14:57.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.
00:14:59.000 Eddie?
00:15:00.000 Oh, boy.
00:15:01.000 You got Eddie?
00:15:02.000 Okay, Eddie, go ahead.
00:15:03.000 All right, Mr. Boister?
00:15:05.000 Yes, I can barely hear Eddie.
00:15:07.000 Well, Alex, do you intend to file a message to him with a question?
00:15:10.000 Eddie!
00:15:11.000 Well, just talk right into your telephone.
00:15:13.000 I'm talking as loud as I can, Alex.
00:15:16.000 How many people die playing high school sports each year, Mr. Boyster?
00:15:21.000 Uh, I don't have the answer to that.
00:15:22.000 I don't know.
00:15:23.000 Now, you gave a reference to a person in Illinois that tried to or attempted to buy a firearm illegally from a licensed dealer?
00:15:31.000 And they, as a result of the background check, the system worked and he wasn't able to purchase the gun.
00:15:36.000 Is that not in itself a crime?
00:15:39.000 Was the man prosecuted?
00:15:41.000 Yes, he was.
00:15:42.000 I believe the dealer was prosecuted.
00:15:43.000 No, not the dealer!
00:15:46.000 The person that attempted to illegally buy a firearm, was he not prosecuted?
00:15:52.000 No, I don't believe so.
00:15:53.000 He should have been prosecuted.
00:15:56.000 Why did you not take action against the county prosecutor to enforce the federal law?
00:16:01.000 Look, I agree with you.
00:16:02.000 If someone breaks the law... I agree with you.
00:16:07.000 In that situation, if someone breaks the law, the law should be enforced.
00:16:12.000 But you did not force it upon the person that committed a federal crime by trying to illegally purchase a firearm!
00:16:21.000 And guess what, sir?
00:16:22.000 I'm going to agree with you.
00:16:24.000 If someone commits a crime...
00:16:27.000 They should be prosecuted.
00:16:29.000 That's not the argument of the day.
00:16:31.000 That's the argument of the day!
00:16:33.000 If you don't nip the crime in the bud, it will continue forever!
00:16:38.000 Am I going to be able to say anything to you that... Sure, go ahead.
00:16:42.000 Appreciate the call, Eddie.
00:16:42.000 Hold on a second.
00:16:43.000 Go ahead.
00:16:46.000 And thank you.
00:16:47.000 You know, I'm not going to be able to sit here and say probably anything to you or any of your listeners that are going to convince you that I think a lot of We're perceived as this evil empire that are coming to take your guns away.
00:17:01.000 And I can sit here and talk to you until I'm blue in the face and tell you that that's not the case.
00:17:07.000 And you're not going to believe me.
00:17:08.000 And that's not going to be the fact of the matter.
00:17:10.000 That's like a camouflaged aircraft coming into our city attacking telling us we're not an enemy.
00:17:15.000 Have you ever heard me sit here and say that you don't have a gun?
00:17:20.000 Have I said that at one time in my conversation?
00:17:23.000 Look, I'm not saying that smaller organizations aren't dupes, okay?
00:17:27.000 Have you ever heard anybody in the... I'm saying the big org... I just read Brady!
00:17:33.000 Well, I don't know the contents of the entire... I'll tell you what, do you want to stay with us or do you want to leave us?
00:17:38.000 I've really got to go, but I appreciate the opportunity to... Thanks for joining me, and remember, we will defend this republic.
00:17:45.000 Bye-bye.