Chris Boyarsky of the Illinois Council Against Handgun violence joins host Alex Jones to discuss gun control and the proposed ban on all gun ads in newspapers and TV stations. He also explains why he supports the Our Lady of Peace Act, which would require all Americans to register their guns.
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00:00:30.000I know we've got a lot of callers here.
00:00:32.000You'll have a chance to get on the air here in just the next few minutes.
00:00:35.000I saw a story today, group attacks gun ads.
00:00:53.000And, uh, wow, this is very interesting.
00:00:55.000We have Chris Boyster, down-to-state director of the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence on the classified ads loophole, and he joins us from Illinois right now, where the mayor and the governor and others have said they want a total gun ban.
00:01:12.000Chris Boyster, good to have you on the show today.
00:01:33.000Yeah, isn't this a First Amendment violation and you're trying to...
00:01:38.000Really collude, or what I would call rocketeer, together to put pressure to get people to not take ads?
00:01:43.000No, this isn't... Let me give you a little bit of clarification on what the newspaper loophole is, and what we're trying to do is we're trying to ask newspapers such as the Eurojournal Star, and the press coverage that we held yesterday, to not run classified ads for guns from non-licensed federally firearm dealers.
00:02:02.000We're simply asking them to act responsible so that if they do conduct, if they do That'll be that.
00:02:12.000And that the guns do not get in the hands of the wrong people.
00:02:15.000But isn't that just a baby step towards what you call the gun show loophole?
00:02:19.000The way most of the state laws are written that have passed, I can't go over to my neighbor's house and show a gun to three people and sell it.
00:02:26.000It'll shut down flea markets, it'll do all this, and you're just trying to shut down the advertising of this.
00:02:32.000I mean, I've bought guns out of the newspaper before.
00:02:34.000Criminals are going to get guns, period.
00:02:36.000We shouldn't restrict the whole society because there's a few criminals out there.
00:02:40.000Sir, what we're really trying to do is make sure that a background check is being conducted.
00:02:46.000So you support the Our Lady of Peace Act that passed the House that Bush said he'll sign that registers all gun owners?
00:02:52.000What we're doing with this, with the newspaper loophole, is we're asking the newspaper, what we're doing is we're asking the corporations to act as corporate responsibility and Make sure that if they run classified ads for guns, that a background check is being conducted.
00:03:13.000If you look at the Benjamin Smith case that happened, Benjamin Smith tried to illegally purchase a gun for a dealer.
00:03:20.000It was found out that he was not eligible.
00:03:25.000Goes to the Peoria Journal-Star, he finds an ad for a gun, buys it illegally, goes out and commits crime with it.
00:03:32.000Yeah, but our issue here is requiring Our issue here is following the national campaign to close the newspaper loopholes required that if they run it, they run it through a licensure with a background check.
00:03:50.000As far as my organization, we don't have a stamp in the Our Lady of Peace Act and registration.
00:03:56.000We're not so convinced of registration.
00:03:59.000In Illinois we have the FOID card system here which requires people to get a FOID card Yeah, now old WWII veterans try to, you know, forget to re-up theirs and they get a SWAT team raid.
00:04:15.000You got special state police units that go after gun owners.
00:04:19.000You got house-to-house searches up there.
00:04:22.000Look, you can have these arguments all day that, oh, if it'll save one life, let's do it.
00:04:54.000The National Rifle Association and other organizations say.
00:04:57.000The law is the Second Amendment and the law says you will make no law restricting my gun ownership and the Federal Court just ruled they're going to ban most guns in California.
00:05:06.000I mean, I've read Handgun Control Incorporated's own policy papers.
00:05:15.000So, you know, that's an argument that's often used by the National Rifle Association and the pro-gun lobbyists, that we're out to get the guns, that they're out to get the guns.
00:05:23.000These are common-sense safety initiatives that make sure that... Andrew Cuomo, the head of HUD, said we're going to ban guns one bite at a time.
00:05:32.000The issue, I think you're getting off the issue here.
00:05:34.000No, the issue is you guys want my guns!
00:05:38.000We don't want guns to get in the hands of people, in the wrong hands of people who shouldn't have them.
00:05:43.000These are common, you know, every time, that's the issue.
00:06:02.000England now has the highest crime rate in the world after total gun man.
00:06:05.000We have, the United States of America, has the highest amount, and we have the highest, we have the highest amount of gun deaths than any other nation on the planet.
00:06:13.000You know, that professor Belisarius just got kicked out of the university.
00:06:17.000This is all a bunch of disinformation.
00:07:03.000Then it shifted into the second phase of Brady 1.
00:07:05.000Brady 2 was defeated, but still being implemented piecemeal.
00:07:09.000They started FBI NICS instant check system.
00:07:12.000Which we know, they've been keeping the records, they've been caught doing it.
00:07:15.000Now they admit, under our Lady of Peace Act, of the Republicans' past, you should love them, they're sworn to get our guns, so is the NRA, their loyal opposition.
00:07:22.000They have now said that it will register all gun owners, go after misdemeanor gun owners.
00:07:27.000California, New York Times, today is going to go after about 80% of the guns, saying they're now illegal.
00:07:32.000Anything semi-automatic, rifle or handgun, will now be illegal.
00:07:36.000The plan is, incrementally, to get this job done, and now it's happening, And we know what the plan is, and we've gone from 300,000 gun dealers to 24,000 gun dealers.
00:07:47.000There are whole cities on the west and east coast that don't have a single gun shop.
00:08:13.000Nine children die a day from gun violence in this nation.
00:08:17.000You count a child under 18, you mean eight gangbangers die a day?
00:08:21.000Nine children die a day in this nation.
00:08:25.000You mean eight gangbangers that police shoot die a day?
00:08:28.000Are you going to tell that to the mother whose innocent child was killed?
00:08:31.000That's right, I have told that to the mother's innocent child when I went out to face the 100 bureaucrat Marge, but you talked about gangbangers.
00:08:38.000You talked about gangbangers, but you said that there's something wrong with background checks.
00:08:42.000But a gangbanger who has a criminal record... Only criminals will have guns.
00:08:47.000I'm against all your gun control laws.
00:08:48.000They're all a violation of the Bill of Rights.
00:08:52.000Well, you're entitled to your beliefs.
00:08:55.000And that's what makes this nation great.
00:08:57.000I mean, what makes this nation great is that we're all entitled to believe different things.
00:09:49.000The culture is sick, we're degenerating into animals, and that's why I need more gun rights than ever to protect my family from the urban cesspools that socialist control freaks create.
00:10:01.000And you're talking about... Like Sarah Brady, our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.
00:10:09.000sarah brady chairman of anger control incorporated senator howard metz and mom
00:10:12.000the national educator january nineteen ninety four page three
00:10:19.000you talk of you right there to you that because our society is is is coming
00:10:27.000apart that that's what you even need more done
00:10:29.000The fact is that, and that's what the National Rifle Association and another in the program lobby have been very successful creating a fear in America.
00:10:52.000And see, that's one of the things that the National Rifle Association and the Pearl Gun Lobby is saying to some American people, is that they need guns to protect themselves.
00:11:05.000The truth is, is that if you bring your guns home, you're serious.
00:11:07.000Hey, if you're obsessed with rules like Chicago with a total gun ban for handguns, where you have the high crime rate, D.C., total gun ban, highest crime rate in the U.S.
00:11:18.000It's where the globalists run things that they have those problems.
00:11:21.000Okay, let's take a look at the city of Chicago, for instance.
00:11:24.000Alright, I'll stop running over you, but we gotta break.
00:12:39.000And don't forget, before we go back to our guests, our task of creating a Socialist America that will only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.
00:12:48.000Sarah Brady, Chairman of Hanger Control Incorporated, Senator Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator Magazine, January 94, page 3.
00:12:56.000So whether our guest has this mindset or not, this is where the big shots are leading us.
00:13:01.000You were telling us how safe we'll be with this system.
00:13:12.000And I think before the break you were talking about the city of Chicago.
00:13:17.000Let me give you an example of how the pro-gun lobby and the National Rifle Association work.
00:13:23.000You know, you talked about The city of Chicago did a program called Operation Gunsmoke, where they were trying to find out where the illegal guns are coming into the city.
00:13:34.000Yeah, I'm not even sure what you're talking about.
00:13:41.000Well, what they did was they went to undercover agents, went to gun dealers in suburban areas outside the city, and at some point went up to dealers and He even said that, without a FOID card, he even said that they were going to use the gun in the commission of the crime, and they were sold the gun!
00:14:04.000So the Illinois Legislature went after, as a result of that, went into a... introduced a legislation that would license dealers so that they would be regulated by and monitored by the Illinois State Police to make sure instances like that don't occur.
00:14:22.000And the National Rifle Association and the pro-gun lobby did everything in their power to stop it.
00:14:26.000By the way, the Illinois government wants the national gun records to be handed out to the other organizations like 100 Bureaucrat March and others.
00:16:47.000You know, I'm not going to be able to sit here and say probably anything to you or any of your listeners that are going to convince you that I think a lot of We're perceived as this evil empire that are coming to take your guns away.
00:17:01.000And I can sit here and talk to you until I'm blue in the face and tell you that that's not the case.