Alex Jones Show - May 28, 2003


20030528_Wed_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 49 minutes

Words per Minute

172.63292

Word Count

29,221

Sentence Count

2,366

Misogynist Sentences

23

Hate Speech Sentences

37


Summary

On this episode of the Alex Jones Show, host Alex Jones is joined by three guests to discuss a wide variety of topics including: The War on Drugs, The Death Penalty, and the War on Crime. Guest Opinion: Guest Opinion, Principles of a New World Order.


Transcript

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00:00:18.000 Government cover-ups.
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00:00:21.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:23.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:27.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:32.000 Welcome, my friends.
00:00:34.000 Thanks for tuning into the show.
00:00:37.000 Welcome my friends, thanks for tuning into the show. It is already the 28th of May 2003.
00:00:44.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.
00:00:47.000 My websites are InfoWars.com, InfoWars.net, and PrisonPlanet.com, all being updated as we speak.
00:00:56.000 In fact, be sure to visit PrisonPlanet.com for the audio and video section, as well as the original commentary that's there, the legislation that's posted, and all the news articles from around the world so you can make your own decision about what's going on and happening.
00:01:13.000 Here's an article And it says, Guest Opinion, Principles of a New World Order.
00:01:20.000 We're going to get into that article.
00:01:22.000 Also, we need a multipolar world.
00:01:25.000 Russia, Chinese leaders say they want their own new world order.
00:01:30.000 Iran denies secret nuclear sites and Al-Qaeda links and says it's a pretext for war.
00:01:36.000 Something good happened in Colorado.
00:01:38.000 Governor Bill Owens okays.
00:01:42.000 Bill, barring use of Mexican ID cards because of massive pressure by the citizens.
00:01:47.000 But are there holes in the legislation?
00:01:50.000 Well, of course there are.
00:01:52.000 But it shows they're having to bend our will, the majority will, plus it's constitutional.
00:01:58.000 Also, DNA pinpoints Louisiana serial killer, police say.
00:02:02.000 And I have no doubt that this guy could be a serial killer.
00:02:05.000 The problem is, the next article Conviction tossed out on FBI lab misconduct.
00:02:10.000 They've been caught planning evidence, falsifying evidence, so you can't believe anything they do.
00:02:14.000 And you notice they didn't catch this guy in Louisiana who was up in Georgia.
00:02:19.000 They didn't catch him with the DNA evidence they demanded from people at checkpoints and door-to-door.
00:02:25.000 That was all part of training people to accept that.
00:02:27.000 Imagine a knock on the door, and they tell you, hey, give me your blood right now or you're going to jail.
00:02:35.000 No warrant, no nothing.
00:02:38.000 So, conviction overturned as a result of FBI misconduct.
00:02:41.000 How can you... See, that's the thing.
00:02:43.000 I'm for the death penalty, too.
00:02:45.000 I believe that a serial killer or whatever should be executed.
00:02:50.000 I mean, that's an eye for an eye.
00:02:52.000 That makes sense.
00:02:53.000 It's something that needs to be done, but you have the big criminals running the government.
00:02:58.000 How can you trust them to mete out the death penalty?
00:03:00.000 So, death penalty moratorium considered in North Carolina, a blue-collar town known for its Furniture factories, law and order, conservatism hardly seems the kind of place that would call for a moratorium on the death penalty, but people don't trust the government.
00:03:17.000 So how can you trust the government to hand out the death sentences?
00:03:20.000 I mean, certainly you're for the death penalty, most of you, so am I, but in Soviet Russia, would you be for Stalin handing out death sentences?
00:03:28.000 No, that's illegitimate.
00:03:29.000 So when you get a corrupt government and corrupt courts and corrupt FBI and you know they've been caught doing it, you know they've been caught running hit teams and running drugs, that's been confirmed, how do you then trust them to mete out so-called justice?
00:03:43.000 You can't.
00:03:44.000 It's an important issue.
00:03:45.000 Maybe we should discuss the death penalty.
00:03:47.000 I want to hear from you on the death penalty.
00:03:50.000 What do you think of this issue?
00:03:52.000 Do you understand where I'm going with this?
00:03:55.000 Look, it's like drugs.
00:03:56.000 I'm against drugs, okay?
00:03:58.000 Other than caffeine.
00:03:59.000 I do drink coffee.
00:04:00.000 But I think illegal drugs are bad news.
00:04:03.000 So are big pharmas.
00:04:04.000 Pharmacological over-the-counter and prescription garbage.
00:04:09.000 But at the same time, we're forced to decriminalize because the government ships the drugs in to create the crisis.
00:04:15.000 The bigger the war on drugs gets, the more drugs, the more people in prison.
00:04:18.000 That's a fact, people!
00:04:20.000 So do you understand that I'm against drugs but you can't be for having them be illegal because the government ships them in to create the crisis and that's a fact so what do you think about my take on that?
00:04:33.000 toll-free number to join us 1-800-259-9231.
00:04:40.000 I know this is an open format show and I don't usually go on particular topics, but I'd like to discuss these two
00:04:46.000 issues.
00:04:47.000 The drug war, the death penalty, auto scans of Texans' face, fingerprints rejected, an incredible propaganda lie out of the Houston Chronicle.
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00:08:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:08:34.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another live edition of the World Wide Broadcast.
00:08:40.000 I have Tom Flacco, who's written for WorldNetDaily, From the Wilderness, Newsmax and Arco News, Judicial Watch, joining us at about 12.45 Central Time, so about an hour and 30 minutes from now, and he'll be with us for the full third hour, but I wanted to have him on for part of the second hour.
00:09:04.000 Also, I have economist and best-selling author Michael Hager joining us at noon in about 51 minutes.
00:09:12.000 Uh, to talk about the economy and the dollar and what's happening to real estate and how this is all designed to consolidate wealth by the establishment that is not free market, that operates as an organized crime syndicate.
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00:09:33.000 I want to take calls on a bunch of subjects today.
00:09:36.000 They haven't found weapons of mass destruction, but don't worry, they're going to find some here pretty soon and say, see, we told you so.
00:09:44.000 I can see from what they're doing that's the propaganda that they're setting up.
00:09:49.000 That's the play they're running on us right now.
00:09:54.000 Also, they found this alleged serial killer, the Louisiana Serial Killer.
00:10:00.000 After doing door-to-door DNA checks and highway DNA checks, that didn't help, but they did catch him up in Georgia.
00:10:11.000 And everybody's saying, oh, look how great DNA is, but the government's been caught hundreds of times at state and federal level planting DNA evidence and sending innocent people to prison.
00:10:22.000 So, how can you trust DNA?
00:10:24.000 Yes, DNA is about 99.99%.
00:10:28.000 But, it's so easy to frame someone, it's so easy to claim that you have results that are not accurate.
00:10:34.000 We have the former head of the FBI, Crime Lab, who quit a few years ago, refusing to go along with it, and now they're having to throw out a lot of convictions.
00:10:44.000 So what do you do, what happens to law and order when the system itself is corrupt?
00:10:49.000 It came out a few months ago that in Boston, not only had the FBI in Boston, but it turned out nationwide used informants as hitmen, as drug dealers for them, and actually protected the Mafia system-wide in the FBI.
00:11:07.000 So how do you trust the FBI?
00:11:08.000 See, this is the point we're making here.
00:11:10.000 And I already said it, I'll say it again.
00:11:12.000 I am for the death penalty.
00:11:15.000 I believe that in a perfect world the death penalty is just.
00:11:18.000 I believe that a degenerate scumball like Jeffrey Dahmer needs to be executed.
00:11:26.000 But here's the problem.
00:11:28.000 You get people in governments like Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and Ho Chi Minh and Fidel Castro And Nero, and Caligula, and Titus, and they are the murderers.
00:11:43.000 They are the control freaks.
00:11:45.000 They are the sadists.
00:11:46.000 They run the state.
00:11:48.000 They hand out the death penalty.
00:11:49.000 So I obviously wouldn't be for the death penalty in the middle of Soviet Russia in 1955.
00:11:57.000 Obviously, I would say this government's illegitimate and they are not competent to run trials or to impanel juries, which of course they didn't have, and to carry out executions.
00:12:09.000 And so now we have a government that wants to start doing all these federal executions and has built all these federal execution centers, and I read the headline yesterday out of Reuters, U.S.
00:12:20.000 plans death camp.
00:12:21.000 This was first reported in the mail on Sunday in Australia, on Sunday.
00:12:26.000 And they say they want to set up an execution mill at Guantanamo Bay.
00:12:30.000 No juries, no judge, you can't face your accuser.
00:12:34.000 And some will say, oh well that's just for that group.
00:12:37.000 No, it's going to be for you too.
00:12:38.000 The definition of terrorism gets wider and wider and wider, as the Deputy Attorney General of California said in the Oakland Tribune last week.
00:12:45.000 Protesting a war on terror is aiding terrorists.
00:12:48.000 You can be arrested as a terrorist.
00:12:51.000 See, it's widening now.
00:12:54.000 And it doesn't scare me, it makes me angry, makes me want to fight this system and stand up against it.
00:13:00.000 So, understand, how do we then have a death penalty if we've got a government that cannot be trusted?
00:13:07.000 If we have a government that we know frames people and creates false evidence?
00:13:11.000 How can we have a drug war?
00:13:13.000 I'm against cocaine and heroin.
00:13:14.000 They're horrible, mind-destroying drugs, but you've got 10 million people on Prozac, over 10 million on Ritalin-type drugs, What are we going to do about that?
00:13:25.000 Those drugs kill more Americans every year, cause more side effects, more deaths.
00:13:29.000 Did you know those are the actual statistics?
00:13:32.000 Doctors kill more people in malpractice than all the illegal drugs do in this country.
00:13:37.000 So why do we have this drug war?
00:13:40.000 So, men in black uniforms have a pretext to break down your door, so the feds can give them, uh, the local police the seized money to federalize them, so the CIA can ship in the heroin and cocaine, so they can break down the society and cause more crime.
00:13:56.000 Nine out of ten robberies drug-related.
00:13:59.000 So again, I'm against drugs, but I know the government ships them in to create the crisis.
00:14:04.000 I'm for the death penalty, but we can't have a death penalty with this corrupt government.
00:14:08.000 You begin to figure out how things work.
00:14:10.000 I'm certainly for a state death penalty, but you need to have massive evidence to do it.
00:14:17.000 There need to be strong rules in place, but no, there should not be a federal death penalty, ladies and gentlemen.
00:14:23.000 It's unconstitutional.
00:14:25.000 It's dangerous.
00:14:26.000 You don't want a central government having that power.
00:14:29.000 Now that's my take on these issues, but this gets into the more intricate Systems that we're facing.
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00:16:03.000 Help us warn America.
00:16:05.000 Help us expose who's running the terror attacks and how the globalists are using it to scare us into submission.
00:16:13.000 But again, the toll-free number is 1-800-259-9231.
00:16:18.000 It is an open secret.
00:16:20.000 The government ships in the drugs, then lets your local police clean it up and militarize the system while they're at it.
00:16:27.000 It's clear the death penalty is good, but not when you have a criminal, bankrupt government.
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00:16:40.000 Jumping into some of the news, yesterday I read a Washington Post headline where it said
00:16:45.000 "Suited for Empire, the military victory in Iraq seems to have confirmed a new world order,
00:16:52.000 not since Rome has one nation loomed so large above the others."
00:16:56.000 Indeed the word "empire" has come out of the closet.
00:17:00.000 Respected analysts of both left and right are beginning to refer to the American Empire approvingly and the dominant narrative of the 21st century.
00:17:09.000 So it's now a pride issue.
00:17:11.000 Oh, we're an empire.
00:17:13.000 But that empire is going to abuse you more than anyone else.
00:17:17.000 Don't think that here in the heart of the new Reich, the Fourth Reich, here in the homeland kingdom, you're going to be safe.
00:17:25.000 They're going to take your pension funds, public policy.
00:17:28.000 They're going to take your 401k.
00:17:29.000 They're going to drive down your wages.
00:17:31.000 They're going to shut down more of your factories.
00:17:33.000 They're going to have federal retraining.
00:17:34.000 They're going to set up internal checkpoints, as they're already doing under the guise of the National Seat Belt Initiative.
00:17:40.000 They're going to build hardened checkpoints and tollbooths.
00:17:42.000 They're going to tax and trace and run your life.
00:17:44.000 They're going to put satellite boxes in your cars, already official.
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00:17:50.000 Your neighbors are going to be tattling and spying on you.
00:17:53.000 Protests won't be allowed unless you get special agreements.
00:17:57.000 It goes on and on.
00:17:58.000 This isn't a country we should be proud to live in.
00:18:01.000 We should change it.
00:18:02.000 We should move forward with the Bill of Rights and Constitution and make America better than it was, not worse than it was.
00:18:12.000 I hope you know where I'm going with this.
00:18:13.000 The California Aggie, and this of course is a college A college website says, after the fall of Berlin Wall, President George Herbert Walker Bush ushered in what he called the New World Order.
00:18:25.000 The former president followed up his statement by invading Panama and then going to war with Iraq in the first Persian Gulf War.
00:18:32.000 Like his father, President George W. Bush, is aggressively pursuing his New World Order.
00:18:36.000 See, I'm glad everybody's talking about the New World Order now.
00:18:40.000 So when the FBI's sitting there teaching their training manuals to police that say a New World Order doesn't exist, People are insane if they believe in it.
00:18:49.000 It says delusional.
00:18:50.000 The cops will go, wait a minute, I saw Tom Brokaw talk about it.
00:18:53.000 Well, wait a minute, it was in my newspaper.
00:18:56.000 Or maybe they won't.
00:18:56.000 Maybe they'll sit there and go, mm-hmm.
00:18:58.000 People are crazy if they talk about it.
00:19:01.000 Got an article here out of the Houston Chronicle.
00:19:03.000 It says, oh, Texas isn't gonna...
00:19:05.000 Thumb scan and face scan in the headline.
00:19:08.000 Later, in page two, they admit they already are, but it's a bizarre propaganda story.
00:19:13.000 It's this new tactic of denying what's already officially been going on for ten years in this state.
00:19:20.000 Ten years!
00:19:22.000 And they're denying it in the Houston Chronicle because people are waking up and getting upset about it.
00:19:27.000 Also, got a bunch of news about them not finding weapons of mass destruction.
00:19:31.000 Well, they did dig up an anthrax dump that was buried underground.
00:19:35.000 That's coming up.
00:19:36.000 Some good news.
00:19:37.000 Governor Bill Owens in Colorado.
00:19:39.000 Okays of Bill barring use of Mexican ID cards.
00:19:44.000 It's all coming up.
00:19:44.000 But your calls in the next segment.
00:19:50.000 1-800-259-9231.
00:19:51.000 Any of the issues I've mentioned.
00:19:53.000 What about the death penalty?
00:19:54.000 What about the drug war?
00:19:55.000 Do you see what I was saying with that?
00:19:57.000 It's not a left-right issue.
00:19:58.000 It's the corruption of the government systemically breaking down all of the societal functions of a wholesome system and replacing it with pure evil.
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00:24:06.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:24:19.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:24:25.000 I'm for the death penalty.
00:24:27.000 I believe it's a good thing to kill once a jury of the individual's peers have found them guilty of some horrible offense like murdering a child.
00:24:39.000 I believe that's natural and wholesome and the Bible says so.
00:24:43.000 But the problem is I don't think that Julius Caesar, Adolf Hitler, or George Bush ...are proper heads of a government and they're so corrupt they cannot be trusted to run a government that carries out executions or trials.
00:24:59.000 So, therefore, I'm against the death penalty.
00:25:01.000 And they make this a whole left-right debate and an issue, and obviously the communists don't want a death penalty when they're taking over a country, as General Bettencourt-Parton has said, because they want to be able to get their people out of jail, just like Bill Clinton gave the communist bombers the waiver right before he left office and pardoned them.
00:25:21.000 So it's the same system, just like the drug war.
00:25:23.000 I'm against drugs, but the government ships in to create the crisis.
00:25:26.000 The bigger the drug war, the more drugs.
00:25:29.000 So what do you think about these issues, or any other news items I've thrown out here today?
00:25:33.000 Mike in Florida, then Omar and others.
00:25:35.000 Mike, you're on the air.
00:25:36.000 Go ahead.
00:25:36.000 Alex, how are you doing today?
00:25:38.000 Fantastic, sir.
00:25:39.000 I really just want to kind of touch on the drug war.
00:25:43.000 Not necessarily the drugs themselves.
00:25:44.000 I agree with you that cocaine, heroin, crack, methamphetamines, I do agree with you that all those drugs are bad.
00:25:51.000 And all those drugs that you'll notice are synthetically made by humans.
00:25:55.000 Now, marijuana, I don't consider to be personally a drug, and I think that it's very important for people to understand that a lot of the drug laws, as they were put down, as time passed, were not really made to stop the drugs, but were made... Well, sir, let me stop you.
00:26:10.000 This whole line, and I agree with some of what you're going to say, and what you've said, but look.
00:26:16.000 Nightshade grows naturally.
00:26:18.000 It'll kill you if you eat it, too much of it.
00:26:22.000 Cyanide shows up naturally, and that'll kill you.
00:26:26.000 So this line that marijuana isn't a drug is a joke.
00:26:28.000 Also, the marijuana George Washington smoked, According to historical reports, you'd have to smoke about 10 pipe loads of it to even mellow yourself out.
00:26:39.000 The marijuana today is so strong, it's full of so much THC, that it's become a mild hallucinogen, and it turns a lot of kids into little deadbeats.
00:26:49.000 uh... so and obviously marijuana has incredible medical uh...
00:26:54.000 attributes chemotherapy folks to hold down their food for glaucoma i
00:26:58.000 think it should be used for medical purposes but please don't tell me that it's
00:27:03.000 not a drug i'm not going to argue with you on the fact that it's not a
00:27:08.000 drug i definitely agree with you that children and people of a
00:27:12.000 young age should not be smoking marijuana or doing any other drugs
00:27:15.000 for that matter Yeah, you just decriminalize it.
00:27:18.000 You don't make it legal, you decriminalize it.
00:27:20.000 You don't put a kid in juvenile hall because they were found with a marijuana cigarette and then have some gang member rape them and give them HIV.
00:27:29.000 Well, I agree with that.
00:27:30.000 My thing more than that is, I don't know, I recommend for all the viewers, all the listeners out there, buddy, is that everybody sees a documentary called Glass, narrated by Woody Harrelson, and it really points out in detail how the government used marijuana when it first started coming in with the Mexican immigrants.
00:27:48.000 Marijuana was really made more of a legal to discriminate against the immigrants.
00:27:52.000 Well, that's partially true, but have you seen the film, what is it, Weed?
00:27:57.000 I think I have.
00:27:58.000 Yeah, I think that's the one with Harrelson.
00:28:00.000 It's an excellent documentary.
00:28:01.000 Yes, that's the one I'm talking about, yes.
00:28:03.000 And like you're saying, I mean, through the fifties when heroin was becoming a scare, they attached marijuana to that.
00:28:11.000 And the more and more this goes on, it's more of a war.
00:28:13.000 They've turned what should be more of like a medical issue.
00:28:16.000 Well, sir, the reason they really hate marijuana and spend almost more money going after pot than they do cocaine and heroin is because that's a crop that's grown domestically that the CIA doesn't control.
00:28:26.000 They control heroin and cocaine.
00:28:28.000 They ship that trash in here and it makes me Uh, no.
00:28:32.000 wanna puke so i agree with you on the issues you are raised my details
00:28:37.000 uh... no uh... i want to go on a different part of our life i i i
00:28:41.000 think that the against the death penalty more just because the fact that we don't
00:28:45.000 see it as a detractor from violence
00:28:47.000 I could see it... Oh yes it is!
00:28:48.000 It is an incredible deterrent.
00:28:50.000 The death penalty is a good thing if it's done by the states or locally, not federally.
00:28:58.000 And now you can't believe anything this federal government hands down because of all the DNA fraud they've been involved in.
00:29:03.000 That's my point.
00:29:04.000 We've got to get rid of the federal death penalty because this government can't be trusted.
00:29:09.000 Yeah, I mean with the way the death penalty is set up now, I mean, I agree with you that the death penalty under circumstances is a good thing and can be used as a good thing, but the way that the government has the society set up now, I mean, black males, the way that the drugs are shipped in and the way that the police are set up, it's almost like it's The courts are so corrupt, and judges even admit this, and the government's been caught framing so many people that you can, again, folks, would you be for the death penalty in Stalin's Russia?
00:29:39.000 No!
00:29:39.000 Because Stalin's corrupt!
00:29:41.000 But we have a corrupt government, trying to set up that same system, and they can't be trusted.
00:29:46.000 Thanks for the call, I appreciate it.
00:29:48.000 And now they've reported, again, U.S.
00:29:50.000 death camp plan.
00:29:52.000 They're admitting they want to build death camps now.
00:29:54.000 Mainstream news.
00:29:55.000 Folks, we better stand up against this.
00:29:57.000 Now, we'll be right back.
00:30:00.000 We're on the march.
00:30:01.000 The empire's on the run.
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00:30:57.000 We're talking about... I got a bunch of other news about the War on Terror and the Second Amendment and the police state and the National ID Card and all the rest of it.
00:31:05.000 That's coming up.
00:31:05.000 And Michael Hager on the economy in about 27 minutes.
00:31:10.000 An economist, best-selling author.
00:31:12.000 And then I've got Tom Flacco, writer for World Net Daily, from the Wilderness Newsmax to come on to talk about the hearings.
00:31:18.000 He went to the 9-1-1 hearings.
00:31:20.000 Now evidence has come out.
00:31:22.000 The White House was on the phone with the FAA an hour before the hijackings even began and some type of weird coordination.
00:31:28.000 That's why Bush is scrambling to make everything that's already been public classified.
00:31:33.000 I mean, these smoking guns are getting so big.
00:31:36.000 These red flags are getting so huge that no one can avoid it or ignore it.
00:31:40.000 Well, that's coming up as well next hour, so stay with us.
00:31:45.000 Right now, we're talking about the death penalty.
00:31:48.000 I'm for the death penalty, but I'm not for a corrupt government like Adolf Hitler's government or Joseph Stalin's government administering it, and when our government gets caught planning DNA evidence, falsifying evidence, I then have to say that I am against having a federal death penalty because they cannot be trusted, their courts cannot be trusted, and now they want these warrantless arrests, you don't have a public trial, they have a military tribunal, they can execute citizens secretly.
00:32:16.000 And I talked about that out of Reuters, The Mail on Sunday, and other publications yesterday, U.S.
00:32:21.000 plans death camp was the headline.
00:32:25.000 So I am firmly against the federal death penalty and I don't think DNA evidence should be admissible because state and federal government has been caught planning evidence so many times.
00:32:35.000 Same thing with the drug war.
00:32:36.000 I'm against drugs.
00:32:37.000 They're legal drugs over the counter.
00:32:39.000 Stuff can be dangerous.
00:32:41.000 the prescription stuff's even worse, causes more carnage, statistics show, than illegal drugs.
00:32:45.000 But I'm against cocaine and heroin too. And the CIA ships it in, controls the cartels,
00:32:51.000 uses it to create crime, they then militarize and corrupt our police, so we've got to decriminalize.
00:32:56.000 The better the drug war, the more drugs. Omar in New York, and then Bob and others.
00:33:01.000 Omar, you're on the air, go ahead. Omar, I'm listening. But, uh, you know,
00:33:07.000 America is the most technologically advanced nation on the planet, yet we still engage in
00:33:13.000 barbarity and savagery.
00:33:15.000 You know, like, uh, I figure that you should take the criminals, once it's been proven that they're criminals, they done committed these vile acts or whatever, put them on the island with their own kind.
00:33:27.000 And, you know, never let them off.
00:33:30.000 You know, that's an idea that's been tried before.
00:33:34.000 And I certainly think that if someone is convicted, take these people and put them on an island, put the violent offenders together, let them enjoy their own type, their own type of Hades.
00:33:44.000 Exactly.
00:33:45.000 But do you see my point about when you have a corrupt government, you can't trust that government to carry out the death penalty?
00:33:51.000 Absolutely.
00:33:52.000 It's just like, you know, they think they're exempt from the same thing they want to put us under.
00:33:59.000 And then, like, the analogy you made about Caesar, when he washed his hand, you know, and put it back in the people's lap to kill Jesus.
00:34:08.000 Yeah, Pontius Pilate, you know.
00:34:10.000 Right, Pontius.
00:34:11.000 The same difference.
00:34:13.000 So, Roman governor, you got it.
00:34:14.000 Right, right.
00:34:17.000 So why should we become the thing that we hate?
00:34:20.000 That's where I'm at with it.
00:34:23.000 Absolutely.
00:34:24.000 Another thing I wanted to bring up, I heard something about, they said, uh... snipers and uh... on the east coast uh... they use the bush master two-two-three rifle and then they made another distinction when they said master bush three-two-two would that happen to be his lodge number or something like that?
00:34:47.000 well that was yes it is there was also a death's head skull and bones card left witnesses saw white men in white vans And under the Northwoods document, page 9, the U.S.
00:35:03.000 Government Terror Plan calls for sniper attacks in D.C.
00:35:07.000 and then even tells the Feds how to frame Patsy's.
00:35:12.000 And you've got Malvo with his eyes the size of saucers running around yelling, Matrix!
00:35:18.000 Matrix!
00:35:19.000 I mean, it's got mind control written all over it, which is an admitted government program.
00:35:25.000 And as usual, the other guy's a Gulf War vet, just like McVeigh.
00:35:28.000 So it's the same story over and over and over and over again, Omar.
00:35:34.000 We can't say for a fact what happened there, but we know what's happened with the other terror attacks.
00:35:38.000 Right.
00:35:39.000 And we know who has the motive as a political distraction.
00:35:41.000 We know who launched the anthrax attack.
00:35:44.000 That was the CIA.
00:35:46.000 And so these are the issues we have to face, but yeah, a lot of numerology, a lot of key things left at the scene, letting folks know where this came from.
00:35:54.000 Omar, thanks for the call.
00:35:55.000 Alright, have a good one.
00:35:56.000 Appreciate it, sir.
00:35:57.000 Bob in New York.
00:35:58.000 Bob, you're on the air.
00:35:59.000 Go ahead.
00:36:00.000 How you doing, Alex?
00:36:02.000 Fine, sir.
00:36:03.000 Hey, just like you, I am for the death penalty, except I kind of like change it a little bit for myself.
00:36:10.000 What I would call for is the death penalty for treason.
00:36:14.000 And in that I would include individuals that have been in government and gone to the corporate world, from the corporate world back into government.
00:36:26.000 If that makes any sense to you.
00:36:27.000 Well, I'll say this.
00:36:28.000 Again, when you talk about a federal level, a central government, it's dangerous to ever have a federal government that can carry out executions.
00:36:36.000 Period.
00:36:37.000 So, even if we convicted all these traitors that gave supercomputers to China and nuclear weapons systems to North Korea and others, I would not be for the death penalty after they were indicted and tried by a jury and convicted because Then we don't want to have our own government that carries out the things they do.
00:36:56.000 You see, you've got to guard the rights of trash to guard your own rights.
00:37:01.000 That's why I don't believe the federal government should have execution powers.
00:37:05.000 Not just because of the historical ramifications of an empire carrying out executions, but also because the federal government has been caught planting evidence and carrying out frauds.
00:37:16.000 Well, in terms of, like, the low-level death penalty, I have so many issues.
00:37:21.000 You know, you're exactly right when you say, you know, so many times the cops are under pressure to solve the case, and they call somebody out of the dregs of society and say, yeah, he did it.
00:37:32.000 And then later on, we find out, I mean, there's a reason why a Republican governor of, what is it, somewhere in the Midwest, just said, I'm going to stay all executions, because I can't trust the judicial system.
00:37:46.000 And the neocons get on the air and say that's wrong, that's evil, when they're not conservative at all.
00:37:52.000 And this is the point I continue to try to make, Bob.
00:37:56.000 Absolutely.
00:37:57.000 It's just a fine line.
00:37:59.000 You get so angry with what they're doing in terms of selling America down the river.
00:38:06.000 You wouldn't say that Joseph Stalin could have death penalty powers against the public, because Joseph Stalin's a thug.
00:38:12.000 What if we just tied it just to government officials?
00:38:17.000 Yeah, but then they would use that against each other, you see.
00:38:19.000 That's why we have a Constitution Bill of Rights, is to limit the scope and power of government.
00:38:23.000 We have a separation of powers, and we're losing that under Homeland Security, and they are taking those type of powers under themselves.
00:38:31.000 I appreciate the call, Bob.
00:38:33.000 More calls coming up here in a minute at 1-800-259-9231.
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00:38:35.000 Let me get into some more of this news.
00:38:37.000 Because there are so many important facets that we need to go over.
00:38:40.000 Iran denies secret nuclear sites.
00:38:41.000 let me get into some more of this news because there are so many important
00:38:50.000 facets that we need to go over. Iran denies secret nuclear sites, Al-Qaeda
00:39:00.000 links, this is out of Reuters.
00:39:03.000 Iran on Wednesday denied U.S.
00:39:04.000 allegations that it had secret atomic facilities or links with Al-Qaeda, and accused Washington of double standards in the war on terror.
00:39:11.000 U.S.
00:39:11.000 officials have increased pressure on Tehran in recent days, accusing it of taking insufficient steps to root out members of Al-Qaeda in Iran, who may have played a role in suicide bombings in Saudi Arabia earlier this month.
00:39:23.000 For those that don't know, Iran doesn't like Al-Qaeda.
00:39:25.000 It's a different branch.
00:39:26.000 They've been in fights with them.
00:39:29.000 And, uh, they know they're the CIA and have tried to keep them out.
00:39:32.000 It's just totally made up like the weapons of mass destruction claim.
00:39:35.000 Foreign Minister Spokesman Hamid Razi Assef ...said a handful of suspects were still being questioned and it was not yet clear whether they could include senior members of Osama Bin Laden's network who may have been known about Riyadh attacks.
00:39:48.000 White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said on Tuesday the arrest had not quelled U.S.
00:39:51.000 concerns that senior al-Qaeda members were still in Iran.
00:39:54.000 See, these convenient bombings of a former Carlyle Group company are admitted to this day CIA front.
00:40:00.000 The Times of London said those bombings a few weeks ago Now, oh, they may start propaganda broadcast.
00:40:05.000 Our government may take over radio and TV stations in Iran, start broadcasting in using aircraft.
00:40:13.000 I mean, they're getting ready, folks.
00:40:14.000 They're also targeting Damascus.
00:40:16.000 That is Syria.
00:40:18.000 Very serious situation.
00:40:21.000 Ask about Fleischer's comments.
00:40:23.000 Asif, turn the tables!
00:40:26.000 On the contrary, we believe America is not serious about fighting terrorism.
00:40:29.000 It adopts a double standard of policy in confronting them, which shows its indecision in dealing with terrorists, he told Reuters.
00:40:35.000 Iran has expressed concerns that the United States has not deftly dealt firmly with its main opposition threat, the Iraq-based People's Majahedeen Militia, despite the fact that it's listed as a terrorist organization by the State Department.
00:40:46.000 Yeah, to the contrary, our government has just hired them in a new Rumsfeld plan and given them amnesty to start attacking Iran!
00:40:54.000 But in the news the last two weeks, dozens of times, admitted!
00:40:59.000 Washington, which broke ties with Tehran shortly after the 1979 Islamic Revolution, has also accused Iran of interfering in neighboring Iraq, as leader Saddam Hussein was overthrown by U.S.-led forces last month.
00:41:09.000 Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in comments published on Tuesday, the United States would not allow Iraq's neighbors to revoke and remain in Iraq in Iran's image.
00:41:21.000 Senior U.S.
00:41:21.000 policy makers are due to hold a meeting in Iran on Thursday, with the Pentagon reportedly pushing for a tougher line, including actions to destabilize its critical rulers.
00:41:32.000 Thirty-four people, including eight Americans, died in the Saudi attacks on May 12, blamed by Washington on al-Qaeda.
00:41:39.000 So you got that situation.
00:41:40.000 Some good news here.
00:41:42.000 This is out of the Rocky Mountain News.
00:41:46.000 Owens okays bill barring use of Mexican ID cards.
00:41:49.000 Now he said he wouldn't do this six months ago.
00:41:51.000 He's doing it because 80 plus percent of Coloradans, including most Hispanics, want the borders shut, want illegals deported, want the infrastructure protected.
00:42:01.000 Owens okays bill barring use of Mexican ID cards.
00:42:04.000 Homeland Security cited in rejecting consulate papers.
00:42:07.000 Governor Bill Owens signed a controversial bill into law Friday that bars Colorado states and local government officials from recognizing the matricula identification cards now issued by Mexican consulates and Polish consulates and Nicaraguan consulates and now over a hundred consulates.
00:42:22.000 Owens defended the legislation, but he quickly disavowed himself from Representative Tom Tancredo's use of the photo of Mexican President Vicente Fox on a mock-out e-card to criticize their use.
00:42:31.000 President Fox is a friend of the governor, and they have met on a number of occasions and sat down at Hopkins Press Secretary for Owens.
00:42:39.000 Yeah, so, I mean, they got federal and state laws that illegals can't be in your state, but they won't arrest them as they mass and take all the jobs and march and protest and take over day labor sites.
00:42:51.000 So just because no one's going to sign this law, doesn't mean anything's going to be done.
00:42:55.000 You've got to continue to hold the fig to the fire.
00:42:58.000 So it's very important.
00:43:01.000 Some view it as anti-Hispanic.
00:43:02.000 See how they try to make it racial?
00:43:04.000 But 80 plus percent of Hispanics now in major polls want the borders controlled.
00:43:07.000 They're not dumb.
00:43:08.000 They're just as American as anybody else.
00:43:11.000 They know there's 400 plus million Latin Americans coming this way who will work for $2 an hour.
00:43:17.000 What's that going to do to our wages?
00:43:18.000 What's that going to do to our infrastructure?
00:43:20.000 What's that going to do to housing?
00:43:22.000 What's that going to do to sovereignty?
00:43:25.000 Again, some viewed it as anti-Hispanic.
00:43:26.000 On Friday, Mexico's U.S.
00:43:28.000 Ambassador Juan Jose Bremer fired off a letter to Tancredo calling his behavior neither acceptable nor honorable.
00:43:35.000 Tancredo said there was nothing anti-Hispanic about the proposition.
00:43:39.000 The dispute involves the growing use of the cards which are issued by Mexican consulates to their citizens.
00:43:44.000 Whether they are legal or illegal in this country, many banks and other businesses now recognize the cards for identification purposes.
00:43:49.000 It's a federal law, folks!
00:43:52.000 It's state laws.
00:43:54.000 If you try to... Folks, I live here in Texas.
00:43:56.000 I've been in Mexico many times.
00:43:58.000 If you look at a federali wrong, they'll knock your teeth out, torture you for a month, extort $50,000 out of your family.
00:44:06.000 They will shoot you.
00:44:07.000 They will confiscate your truck or van or car if they like it.
00:44:11.000 They'll put you in dirt floor cells.
00:44:13.000 They'll rape your wife.
00:44:15.000 They're about as corrupt as it gets.
00:44:17.000 It's almost like North Korea down there.
00:44:19.000 That's okay!
00:44:21.000 Oh, that's okay!
00:44:23.000 They'll beat you up and call you a gringo if you're white, but that's okay.
00:44:27.000 It's not a racial thing.
00:44:29.000 It is racial, or at least nationalistic with Mexico, but America is not supposed to defend its sovereignty.
00:44:37.000 Unbelievable!
00:44:39.000 DNA pinpoints Louisiana serial killer police say.
00:44:42.000 FBI and Louisiana police are searching for a 34-year-old man they say is identified by DNA as a serial killer who murdered five South Louisiana women from September 2001 through this March.
00:44:52.000 It says Derek Todd Lee, 34, of St.
00:44:55.000 Francisville, Louisiana, was charged with first-degree murder, aggravated rape, and a warrant obtained Monday by a federal and state task force.
00:45:04.000 He is to be considered armed and dangerous, Baton Rouge Police Chief Pat England said.
00:45:09.000 Lee was charged only in the most recent case, the rape and strangulation of Louisiana State University graduate student Carrie Yoder on March 3rd.
00:45:17.000 Baton Rouge Police Detective John Coulter, who obtained the warrants and the DNA samples taken by Yoder, case matched evidence from the murders of four other South Louisiana women.
00:45:28.000 Lee was charged after a 10-month DNA dragnet, which police sought and obtained DNA evidence from an estimated 1,000 South Louisiana men, compared it with evidence found at murder sites.
00:45:38.000 So see, now they need to have DNA dragnets where they, give me your DNA, give me your blood, or I'm arresting you.
00:45:47.000 At checkpoints and door-to-door, and according to the Louisiana papers, it was a lot more than that.
00:45:51.000 I think USA Today is wrong.
00:45:52.000 I think it was over 5,000 people were forcibly tested.
00:45:56.000 So, now this is happening, and here's the problem.
00:45:59.000 The guy may be guilty.
00:46:01.000 The problem is, we've got this.
00:46:03.000 Conviction tossed out.
00:46:04.000 FBI lab misconduct.
00:46:06.000 This is AP.
00:46:07.000 I'll tell you about that when we get back after this quick break.
00:46:10.000 And we'll go to more calls with Michael Hager, economist on the economy and best-selling author.
00:46:14.000 And then we've got Tom Flacco, who's been inside the hearings with shocking new 9-1-1 revelations that, believe me, you want to hear.
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00:51:52.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mark in Canada.
00:51:55.000 Mark, you're on the air.
00:51:56.000 Welcome, sir.
00:51:57.000 Hello, Alex.
00:51:58.000 How you doing?
00:51:59.000 Very well, sir.
00:52:00.000 What's on your mind today?
00:52:02.000 Well, I was at the automatic teller machine, the bank machine, the other day.
00:52:06.000 Yes.
00:52:07.000 Thinking about the cashless society control grid you always talk about.
00:52:11.000 And on a whim, I stuck my driver's license into the bank machine.
00:52:15.000 And it thought it was a bank card.
00:52:18.000 I went through, I picked my account.
00:52:20.000 I selected the amount I wanted.
00:52:21.000 I asked, uh, it asked me if I wanted a receipt.
00:52:24.000 I said yes.
00:52:25.000 And when I asked for the money, it told me that there was something wrong with it.
00:52:28.000 And, uh, that I should try another machine.
00:52:31.000 Yeah, they're already being set up.
00:52:33.000 There's a whole town in Canada where everybody thumb scans.
00:52:35.000 That was on MSNBC.
00:52:37.000 They've got all the stores to put it in.
00:52:39.000 Arlington, Texas is saying, it's not the law, but stores, quote, have to make you thumb scan.
00:52:44.000 They're putting them in.
00:52:47.000 There's a county outside Denver that's trying to do it.
00:52:49.000 People aren't going along with it.
00:52:51.000 And so, yeah, this is happening everywhere, sir.
00:52:53.000 Yeah, I tried it also down in Portland, Oregon.
00:52:56.000 It worked there, too.
00:52:57.000 Or it didn't work, but it did think it was a bank card.
00:53:00.000 Well, they're designed, sir, as national ID cards to buy and sell with them.
00:53:05.000 That's a federal admission.
00:53:06.000 So, yes, it must be going on in Canada, too.
00:53:09.000 Yeah, amazing.
00:53:11.000 One more note about something that's going on in Canada.
00:53:13.000 They're trying to foster this phony anti-Americanism.
00:53:18.000 We got some of these nitwit politicians out there calling George Bush a moron and other things.
00:53:24.000 Well, yeah, this is what the New World Order does.
00:53:27.000 It plays good cop bad cop and energizes the left and the socialist by his actions and then it also keeps the right in line while the whole agenda moves forward.
00:53:37.000 There's no difference in action, only in rhetoric.
00:53:39.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:53:40.000 While they synchronize our social services plans and plan to adopt a common currency.
00:53:46.000 That's it.
00:53:46.000 So, while they're using, they'll use anti-Americanism as if America did all this.
00:53:51.000 No, America's been hijacked by the New World Order.
00:53:53.000 So when you read a headline that says the U.S.
00:53:55.000 is going to attack these people, those people, the U.S.
00:53:57.000 has been hijacked, being used as the muscle for this New World Order.
00:54:00.000 Thanks a lot, Mark.
00:54:02.000 Wesley in Texas, you're on the air.
00:54:04.000 Wesley, welcome.
00:54:06.000 One of your staunchest supporters here in Houston.
00:54:09.000 I just wanted to let you know I was thrilled to see your comprehensive annual financial reports exposed.
00:54:15.000 uh... on uh... public access on channel seventeen at three p m memorial day while that was a good time to have it on and uh... i was really happy i wanted to also i wanted to say point out that jesus once said something about the death penalty said uh... who kills by the sword must be killed by the sword i think that's just purely a practical thing well my whole point is the death penalty Um, for really bad people is obviously a good thing, but you can't trust a corrupt government to carry this out.
00:54:47.000 That's the problem.
00:54:48.000 You're absolutely right.
00:54:49.000 After that, he said, who lead us into captivity.
00:54:52.000 Must be led into captivity.
00:54:54.000 And I think what he meant was, we're all condemned when we put people in prisons because it's wrong.
00:54:58.000 It diminishes human dignity.
00:55:00.000 The state should only have the power... Here's the problem.
00:55:02.000 Big prisons are factories for more crime.
00:55:05.000 And look at the facts.
00:55:06.000 The facts are here.
00:55:07.000 More crime, more prisons, more drugs.
00:55:09.000 And the bigger it gets, the more liberties we lose.
00:55:12.000 And now we're all treated like criminals.
00:55:13.000 I think the state should only have the power of death.
00:55:16.000 And I think it's like no quarter, no half measures.
00:55:19.000 If somebody's vile and wicked enough, Then you have to put them to death.
00:55:23.000 But when you put them in prison, all that does is create a situation where, oh, that's merciful, it's okay to put somebody in prison because they walked on the grass.
00:55:30.000 They put non-violent people in prison, they come out hardened thugs, it's a historical fact.
00:55:35.000 Exactly!
00:55:36.000 And I wanted to also recommend the Socratic method to you, because when you directly oppose somebody's argument, it causes their ego to puff up and cuts off the circulation to their brain.
00:55:49.000 Yeah, they think you're trying to put them down, so tell us about the Socratic Method.
00:55:52.000 Well, Joseph Chilton Pierce wrote a book called The Crack in the Cosmic Egg and Exploring the Crack in the Cosmic Egg.
00:55:58.000 And in it, he talked about an experiment that was done at a major university where they took people into a room and showed them a blurry picture and then slowly brought the picture into focus.
00:56:07.000 Well, when you argue with those people who are looking at the blurry picture, they will continue to see what they thought they saw.
00:56:15.000 But if you don't argue with them, they can recognize the truth.
00:56:18.000 It's amazing.
00:56:19.000 We'll be right back.
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00:56:50.000 Government cover-ups.
00:56:51.000 You want answers?
00:56:53.000 Well, so does he.
00:56:55.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:56:59.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:57:04.000 All right, folks.
00:57:15.000 We've got economist Michael Hager coming on.
00:57:18.000 Talk about the economy, obviously.
00:57:19.000 Then I've got Tom Flacco, who is a journalist, sat in on the whitewash hearings and some incredible new revelations on September 11th, coming up in about 45 minutes.
00:57:30.000 And we've got more of your calls here as well.
00:57:34.000 We were talking to Wesley in Texas.
00:57:35.000 He said he saw one of my videos on public access in Houston.
00:57:38.000 I want to thank the listeners that have done that all over the country.
00:57:42.000 He was making a point about psychological tests where if you try to force somebody to see something, they won't see it.
00:57:47.000 But if you let them find out for themselves, they're more accepting.
00:57:50.000 And I found that to be true.
00:57:53.000 Unless you really got a hard egg, as they say, who just wants to deny it, you've got to show them how they're threatened by the New World Order, and later they'll wake up on their own.
00:58:00.000 That's the point I've made.
00:58:01.000 Just because somebody laughs at you at the time you warn them, later they're going to run into the New World Order and remember what you said.
00:58:07.000 Finishing up real quick, Wesley in Houston, go ahead.
00:58:09.000 Theocratic method is just simply to ask leading questions gently.
00:58:14.000 And if you argue with somebody, the fact is you can actually induce hallucinations in these people.
00:58:20.000 They will continue to see Whatever it is that isn't really there.
00:58:24.000 I mean, really, it's cognitive dissonance.
00:58:26.000 It's so scary, they don't want to believe it.
00:58:29.000 There are too many laws.
00:58:30.000 I think we should just have one more law, and that being that nobody He's allowed to hurt anyone else unnecessarily, especially with the law.
00:58:38.000 Yeah, mutual aggression, Cruz.
00:58:39.000 Use the jury.
00:58:40.000 We have to have our juries back.
00:58:41.000 We've got to have our grand juries back that have been made into rubber stamps for the government.
00:58:44.000 Thanks for the call.
00:58:46.000 Good to hear from you.
00:58:46.000 You bet.
00:58:47.000 Let's talk to Don in Georgia.
00:58:50.000 Don, you're on the air.
00:58:51.000 Go ahead.
00:58:52.000 Welcome.
00:58:53.000 Yes, good afternoon, Alex.
00:58:54.000 How you doing?
00:58:55.000 Very well, very well, considering.
00:58:58.000 I just wanted to let you and your listeners know that I had a really weird visit yesterday.
00:59:04.000 In South Georgia, where I live, they've taken a portion of the Sheriff's Department from all the surrounding areas and kind of condensed them into one drug squad.
00:59:15.000 Yeah, multi-jurisdictional task force.
00:59:17.000 Exactly.
00:59:18.000 Well, I had some children over.
00:59:20.000 I'm watching for the summer and everything.
00:59:23.000 I had about seven or eight children here yesterday with my own.
00:59:29.000 And I was in the house fixing lunch and all of a sudden, you know, there was a helicopter, like, right there on top of our roof.
00:59:36.000 And I thought, well, you know, they're doing their, you know, nosy pass, and so no big deal.
00:59:42.000 Well, it didn't go away.
00:59:44.000 It stayed right there.
00:59:46.000 And so I went outside to see what was going on.
00:59:49.000 By the way, I want to make this point, and I'll hold you over if I have to.
00:59:52.000 They'll have a helicopter for five minutes over your house for a drug raid which endangers the officers.
00:59:57.000 It's like they're idiots or something.
00:59:58.000 Go ahead.
00:59:59.000 Oh, yeah.
00:59:59.000 This guy stayed right over my house.
01:00:02.000 The whole thing lasted over an hour.
01:00:04.000 The whole time.
01:00:05.000 We live on a farm, you know, in the country.
01:00:07.000 You can't see our road.
01:00:09.000 You can't see the road from our driveway.
01:00:11.000 You have to go down our driveway halfway and then you'll finally see our house.
01:00:14.000 So what happened next?
01:00:16.000 Well, so, you know, You know, the kids were saying, man, you could shoot that thing out of the air.
01:00:21.000 I said, no, and don't even talk like that.
01:00:23.000 I said, you know, half the time they can hear what you're saying.
01:00:25.000 I said, you don't have to worry about the guy in the sky.
01:00:27.000 You've got to worry about who's fixing to come down the road for reinforcements.
01:00:32.000 And sure enough, in just a little bit, here come two brand new, you know, dually crew cabs, and they were unmarked.
01:00:40.000 I mean, they were nice, shiny, chrome.
01:00:42.000 So what'd they do?
01:00:43.000 What'd they do?
01:00:45.000 They came down and they said we saw something suspicious from the air.
01:00:50.000 And I asked them if they had a warrant.
01:00:53.000 And they said no.
01:00:53.000 I said, well, you know, maybe this is where I should tell you all to leave if you don't have a warrant.
01:00:58.000 Or maybe I should say that's where I want my lawyer called or anything.
01:01:04.000 But my husband, who's recently passed away, knew the guy through his business and everything.
01:01:10.000 But I said, you know, Rex, I don't believe you're going to find anything here.
01:01:12.000 I said, I have nothing to hide.
01:01:14.000 So you all are welcome to look.
01:01:17.000 I wouldn't have done that.
01:01:18.000 See, that violates the Fourth Amendment.
01:01:20.000 Exactly.
01:01:20.000 It creates that perception.
01:01:22.000 So what happened next?
01:01:23.000 Well, what I wanted to go into is... Alright, well stay there.
01:01:25.000 Stay there.
01:01:26.000 I'll briefly let you finish on the other side.
01:01:28.000 But this is our new wondrous free country.
01:01:30.000 You even know them and they still... No!
01:01:33.000 No, it's not if you have anything to hide, let us look.
01:01:34.000 It's out of the Fourth Amendment.
01:01:35.000 My kids aren't going to grow up in a police state.
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01:04:50.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:04:56.000 Alright, for those that just joined us, Dawn's in Georgia.
01:04:59.000 Her husband just passed away.
01:05:01.000 It's the summer.
01:05:02.000 She's there at her home in the country.
01:05:05.000 Helicopter's over her house for an hour.
01:05:07.000 She's keeping some of the neighbor's children as well as hers.
01:05:10.000 And then two big, shiny, dark dually trucks pull up with the police.
01:05:15.000 They don't bother having a warrant.
01:05:17.000 They just say, we saw something suspicious.
01:05:20.000 And she makes the big mistake of saying, well, I don't have anything to hide.
01:05:23.000 Uh, well, they do, and it's a violation of the Fourth Amendment, one of the big laws, one of the, what America's all about.
01:05:29.000 What happened next, Don, when you said that?
01:05:31.000 Well, um, you know, the one guy, uh, that was the head of the squad, he kind of stayed there and talked to me the whole time I was talking about, you know, the United Nations and their laws and what's going on.
01:05:43.000 And I even went in the house and I said, you know, I said, I'm being courteous to you and we're neighbors.
01:05:48.000 And, you know, I would like you to do something for me.
01:05:51.000 Ma'am, how much land do you have?
01:05:53.000 70 acres.
01:05:54.000 Oh, this is all about your property.
01:05:56.000 Absolutely.
01:05:56.000 That's what I was going to say.
01:05:57.000 They had white trucks with dark windows, but do you know what was on the front of these?
01:06:02.000 Now, these trucks, Drug Squad couldn't have had them for more than two weeks.
01:06:06.000 They're brand new.
01:06:07.000 They used to have these black Blazers, but now they've got these white trucks.
01:06:11.000 But do you know what was on the front of each, on the license plate on each one of the trucks?
01:06:15.000 Was it the local land commissioner?
01:06:17.000 No, sir.
01:06:18.000 It was the Skull and Crossbones.
01:06:21.000 They were flying the Jolly Rogers on their front bumper stickers.
01:06:26.000 For those who don't know, the Nazis did that when men in black uniforms start wearing the Jolly Rogers.
01:06:31.000 Exactly, and that's what I told the guy.
01:06:34.000 I said, you know, I don't know if this is a subtle hint, or if you guys don't realize what's going on.
01:06:41.000 I said, but do you realize with your forfeiture and seizure laws, and then you're flying the Jolly Roger flag?
01:06:48.000 It's piracy!
01:06:49.000 Piracy!
01:06:50.000 Absolutely!
01:06:51.000 I said, don't you get the connection?
01:06:53.000 And I went in and I got your tape, 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, and I asked him, would he please watch it?
01:06:59.000 You know, I would give it to him.
01:07:00.000 I said, I just want you to have it.
01:07:01.000 I'm a good citizen, and I said, I want you to be a good officer.
01:07:05.000 And he wouldn't take it.
01:07:06.000 He read the back of it, and he said, no, I can't.
01:07:08.000 I can't.
01:07:09.000 What do you mean you can't?
01:07:10.000 So what are they doing?
01:07:11.000 You have them in your house?
01:07:12.000 No, I never let them in my house.
01:07:14.000 Good job.
01:07:15.000 Absolutely.
01:07:16.000 And I told them, since my husband's died, people have called DFACS on me, people have called the health department on me.
01:07:23.000 What's DFACS?
01:07:24.000 Department of Children and Family Services.
01:07:26.000 Of course!
01:07:26.000 This is the new... Folks, for those who don't know, this is the new America.
01:07:31.000 Let me stop you.
01:07:31.000 Let me stop you.
01:07:32.000 Let me stop you, Don.
01:07:33.000 This is the new America.
01:07:34.000 You got a widow on her 70 acres in Goonge wanting to get the property with skull and bones on their license plates.
01:07:42.000 And what's even worse is, now listen, They went back in the very back and I let, we've got about 30 acres in the back that's just all old natural timber with oak trees and on the edge of a pond and everything.
01:07:53.000 So we've let the Boy Scouts go out there and have camp outs and this, that and the other.
01:07:59.000 One of the officers came back and he said the other night, he said, there's something suspicious back there.
01:08:04.000 And I said, sir, I said, you know, can you tell me please what's suspicious?
01:08:07.000 You know, we make that available to our friends and their children.
01:08:11.000 And what was suspicious was the campground With two metal cans, one of them was an old gasoline can and the other one was an old denatured alcohol can.
01:08:22.000 That they'll use to put gas in if they can't start their bonfire out there.
01:08:28.000 Of course!
01:08:29.000 Let me stop you.
01:08:30.000 You heard about Eugene, Oregon, where they raid the end of the street in the neighborhood, don't find anything, go ahead and arrest people for a cooking timer and a bag of potting soil in their garden.
01:08:42.000 This is the new America.
01:08:43.000 Let me tell you why I knew it was about property.
01:08:48.000 Almost everybody I know that owns a couple hundred acres has had a SWAT team visit.
01:08:52.000 Yes.
01:08:53.000 And what they do is they come out looking for stuff.
01:08:55.000 The problem is in California they usually shoot you, then they get the land themselves.
01:09:00.000 They've been caught in news reports, this has been the mainstream news, before they raid you getting the land assessed for its value.
01:09:08.000 So we're only a few steps away from them killing you and taking your land.
01:09:12.000 So, he starts saying this is suspicious.
01:09:14.000 Did you bow up to this, this, this, this bullier of widows?
01:09:18.000 Yes, sir.
01:09:18.000 I said, I said, I wonder, you know, and I try to be cordial and I try to be polite.
01:09:23.000 But, but I'm with you.
01:09:24.000 That doesn't get you anywhere with these people.
01:09:27.000 Absolutely.
01:09:27.000 They're criminals.
01:09:28.000 But I told him, I said, well, I wonder if they went in your house, how much they would find that was suspicious.
01:09:35.000 I said, you know, this is just stuff that we normally use for cleaning supplies or we normally use for recreation.
01:09:42.000 But, um, what blew my mind was they're flying the pirate flag.
01:09:46.000 I mean, wake up, people.
01:09:47.000 Wait, this thug says this.
01:09:50.000 Uh, you should have said, hey, you're here on my property without a warrant, I'm being nice to you and you're looking for stuff to get me in trouble.
01:09:55.000 Right.
01:09:55.000 This is a, this is a free country, I can have a gasoline can where we have a bonfire on our own, 70 acres.
01:10:01.000 Now you get out of here, you thug.
01:10:03.000 Right.
01:10:04.000 Now what, you know what, we're so nice to these thugs, these criminals think they're okay.
01:10:07.000 It's like the rapist who rapes women and goes, oh they really like it.
01:10:11.000 Yeah.
01:10:11.000 No, we don't really like it and we're sick of it, you drug dealing filth.
01:10:15.000 So what happened next?
01:10:17.000 Well, um, you know, they were real nice and they said, you know, we appreciate your, you know, um, your cooperation.
01:10:22.000 Oh, they're trash.
01:10:23.000 And that's, that's what, you know, and I told the children, all the children were there and we had, see, I homeschool my children.
01:10:29.000 And they call DCF on you.
01:10:31.000 They're real nice.
01:10:31.000 Oh, absolutely.
01:10:32.000 But see, my children read better than their friends.
01:10:34.000 What do the child grabbing services do to you after your husband died?
01:10:37.000 By the way, the hospitals have tracking records of that.
01:10:40.000 They know when a woman's alone.
01:10:42.000 They attack like predators when you're weak.
01:10:44.000 They're child kidnapping trash!
01:10:46.000 But I have some run-ins with the IRS.
01:10:49.000 So I know a little bit about these, you know, these alphabet soup agencies.
01:10:53.000 You have lots of fun in this free country.
01:10:55.000 And I go out with my yellow pad.
01:10:58.000 And before they come in, I asked to see their identification and their, you know, their, um, you know, something as far as... You don't let them in your house, period.
01:11:08.000 So, so what happened?
01:11:10.000 So the guys got back in their trucks with their skull and crossbones and drove off.
01:11:14.000 And I told the children, I said, you know, years ago, those, because they flew the Jolly Roger flag, that meant that they didn't have to obey a law.
01:11:23.000 That meant that anything they could wrestle from you, by sword or by gun, was theirs.
01:11:28.000 And I said, you know, this is our police.
01:11:31.000 And you know, and it was it was really neat.
01:11:33.000 I mean, I think God was in it because there were all these children and these cops weren't nice.
01:11:38.000 You know, they were just like, you know, big, you know, like you say, big bullies, you know, just go, oh, we have a right beer.
01:11:44.000 They come out in the only way that you know that they're the law.
01:11:47.000 It's because they have their shiny badge and they have their goatee.
01:11:49.000 They're only a step away.
01:11:51.000 They're now recruiting illegals, criminals, you name it.
01:11:54.000 And they've caught them in California.
01:11:56.000 They're only a step away from walking you to the back of your house, blowing the back of your head off, and throwing down a bag of marijuana and taking your land and moving into it with their fat, stinking bellies.
01:12:09.000 Well, I want you to know he would not take your 9-11.
01:12:12.000 uh... the road to tyranny tape.
01:12:14.000 Cowardly criminal.
01:12:15.000 But I told them, I said, you know... And I'll say they're criminals because they're in a widow's house without a warrant, violating the Constitution, snooping around, they make me sick!
01:12:24.000 And of widows getting bullied with children by the IRS and by child grabbing services and by SWAT teams with skull and bones insignia, if you don't know that ain't America, people, there's something wrong with you!
01:12:37.000 I'm sorry, Don, I just am sick of it.
01:12:40.000 God bless you, I am too, and listen, You don't know how many people out here you've woke up.
01:12:44.000 I give your tapes away.
01:12:46.000 I want you to make a hundred copies and I want you to tell the neighbors that story and say we need you to make a hundred copies and for them to make a hundred copies let's have ten thousand copies of my video in that area so people know what they're dealing with.
01:12:59.000 Let's expose the criminals!
01:13:03.000 Well it makes me sick and like I said there were these big white shiny trucks and the only black beside their smoked out windows I'm telling you, it was the skull and crossbones on the front of their truck.
01:13:17.000 And I asked the guy, I said, is that supposed to be the new, you know, to serve and protect?
01:13:23.000 I said, is that supposed to give us the warm, safe feeling?
01:13:27.000 I said, you know... And what did this grease bag say?
01:13:31.000 Oh, you know, he was just doing his job, and they had something suspicious, and I said, well, where did you see something?
01:13:36.000 I would have said, answer the question!
01:13:38.000 Why do you have a Nazi symbol, a symbol of murder and mayhem and piracy, on your vehicle?!
01:13:45.000 You face it!
01:13:46.000 You answer the question, you weak-minded rat!
01:13:51.000 I wish I just had your... your grasp for what You know, what it means.
01:13:56.000 I mean, mine's pretty good compared to some of the people I know.
01:14:00.000 But I just admire people that can pull out from history the facts that you just can't describe.
01:14:06.000 When they start wearing black uniforms and skull and crossbones, look out!
01:14:10.000 Absolutely, you know.
01:14:10.000 Black ski masks.
01:14:12.000 Give me a break, folks.
01:14:13.000 It's about intimidation.
01:14:14.000 They're good guys.
01:14:15.000 It's about anonymity for their criminal activities.
01:14:17.000 Bank robbers.
01:14:18.000 Terrorists.
01:14:19.000 Thugs.
01:14:20.000 Child molesters.
01:14:21.000 Robbers.
01:14:22.000 Wear masks.
01:14:24.000 Don, if these thugs give you any problems, give me a call.
01:14:27.000 God bless you, sir.
01:14:28.000 I appreciate the call.
01:14:29.000 Alright, thank you.
01:14:31.000 Folks, if this doesn't make you mad, something's wrong with you.
01:14:33.000 And it happens all the time.
01:14:34.000 She's lucky they didn't spray machine gun fire into those children and plant a gun on her.
01:14:37.000 They do it all the time.
01:14:39.000 Makes me want to puke.
01:14:40.000 Ron in New York.
01:14:41.000 You're on the air.
01:14:42.000 Go ahead.
01:14:45.000 Hey, Ron.
01:14:45.000 Hi, Alex.
01:14:46.000 What's up?
01:14:47.000 I don't know.
01:14:47.000 I top a call like that.
01:14:48.000 That's some story.
01:14:51.000 I'll tell you one thing.
01:14:53.000 They were nice compared to most areas.
01:14:53.000 Are you kidding?
01:14:57.000 It was in the newspaper out in Eugene, Oregon.
01:15:00.000 A school teacher tried to leave.
01:15:01.000 They had the road blocked off and she said, you know, the rain had been going on for four hours.
01:15:05.000 Nothing was found.
01:15:05.000 She said, I need to back out and go to school.
01:15:07.000 Is that okay, officer?
01:15:08.000 I hadn't killed anybody in two weeks.
01:15:11.000 With a mask on, no insignia, and they still arrested the people's houses for cooking timers, for potting soil in their garden.
01:15:19.000 Well, I'm going to move on in a moment to my original comments.
01:15:22.000 But I'll say this, as far as that situation with that woman I just called, two things that stood out, very glaring.
01:15:22.000 Go ahead.
01:15:30.000 Hey, one of these individuals was somebody that she knew her husband conducted business with, so there was something of a friendship or an acquaintance there, and guess what?
01:15:38.000 Yeah, they knew they had 70 acres.
01:15:39.000 Hold on a second.
01:15:40.000 In the final analysis, when it boiled down to it, the fact that she knew that family and he was friends with them meant nothing to him.
01:15:49.000 Okay, people got to realize that.
01:15:51.000 These are not your friends any more than the rattlesnake you may keep as a domestic pet in an aquarium.
01:15:55.000 They train them!
01:15:57.000 Hold on, I'll let you finish.
01:15:58.000 They train them how to lie, how to make us feel good.
01:16:01.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:16:01.000 They train them as criminals.
01:16:03.000 They, they, that's true.
01:16:05.000 There is a certain degree of, uh, there is a certain degree of training there in something called verbal judo.
01:16:11.000 How to basically stroke people, that's a term that's used, in fact, to get what you want from them.
01:16:17.000 The second thing that came out is that criminals do to let a woman, to get a woman to let them in the car.
01:16:24.000 We talk their way into an apartment, right, and do something.
01:16:27.000 Hey baby, wanna take a... Hey child, I got some candy.
01:16:31.000 Want some candy?
01:16:33.000 They're criminals!
01:16:34.000 Stay there, I'll let you finish up and we'll go to Curtis in Louisiana and others.
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01:20:48.000 Alright, I'm angry.
01:20:50.000 Something about men in their black uniforms with their skull and bones.
01:20:55.000 Garbage.
01:20:58.000 Widows cornered with children.
01:21:01.000 And some, she's being nice to them, has some suspicions back there.
01:21:05.000 How do we get this land?
01:21:08.000 I'm gonna get it!
01:21:10.000 It's gonna be mine!
01:21:12.000 There was a story out north of Los Angeles and the Park Service kept trying to buy this guy's 400 plus acres.
01:21:20.000 It's family land.
01:21:22.000 He had no criminal record, a great member of the community, his wife out there, they lived.
01:21:27.000 They kept saying, you better sell it to us, you better sell it to us.
01:21:30.000 He refused, and police came out.
01:21:33.000 No drugs, no nothing, they just shot him dead.
01:21:36.000 And then the wife, the widow, fought him.
01:21:41.000 And the police, the evidence shows, witnesses saw police vehicles leaving, caught their house on fire, burned it down.
01:21:47.000 Last time I checked, they'd gotten the land.
01:21:49.000 So, she couldn't pay the property tax.
01:21:51.000 They'll get your land!
01:21:53.000 Cause they love you!
01:21:55.000 It's about fightin' Al-Qaeda!
01:21:59.000 You're not with Al-Qaeda, are ya?
01:22:04.000 We're just fightin' terror now, that's all we're doin'.
01:22:08.000 Let's go ahead now and take a call.
01:22:10.000 Let's go back to Ron in New York.
01:22:13.000 Let him finish up.
01:22:13.000 We're trying to make a point, Ron.
01:22:14.000 Go ahead.
01:22:15.000 Yeah.
01:22:15.000 As a matter of fact, I'm going to make several points real quick.
01:22:18.000 The last one is a cliched line that if you have nothing to hide, all right, then why would you fear a search?
01:22:23.000 Your response to that should always be, and if you know, in fact, I do have something worth hiding, Then you go to a judge and get a warrant.
01:22:31.000 And you say, I have children, I want to live in a free country, I don't trust you not to plant something with police records, you want this land, you go get a warrant, you follow the Constitution, our veterans have fought and died for, why are you walking on the graves of our veterans?
01:22:46.000 That's with reference to that.
01:22:48.000 Next thing I'm moving along to is, here in the city of New York, I've called you about this before, the police commissioner keeps making high-level appointments, and he keeps Drafting, I guess, or he keeps getting people from the intelligence community.
01:23:02.000 I think they used to call them spooks at one time.
01:23:04.000 Yeah, you got the Mossad people, you got former Mossad security, you got CIA people.
01:23:09.000 The CIA got left and right.
01:23:11.000 The NYPD, a local police department, is becoming saturated with former spooks from the intelligence community, in particular the CIA.
01:23:21.000 This place is going to be a substation for the CIA in another year or two.
01:23:25.000 It already has been.
01:23:25.000 L.A.
01:23:26.000 was their first major substation, totally run by the mid-60s by the CIA.
01:23:31.000 They started the SWAT teams, started it all there.
01:23:34.000 That's so they can more control the street market in narcotics and child slaves.
01:23:38.000 And nothing but continuous expansion growth of these joint task forces.
01:23:42.000 Joint Task Force, which means federal agents, local agents.
01:23:45.000 And they bust in a house, the old city worker has a heart attack, next day they're raiding a whole apartment complex, nothing found, no warrants, shoving little kids around at Machine Gun Point.
01:23:55.000 And it disappeared right off the radar screen very quick, over here in New York.
01:24:00.000 The third thing, are you familiar with something called the UN System of Accounting?
01:24:05.000 Well, not particularly under that term.
01:24:08.000 Unbelievable.
01:24:09.000 I was watching a documentary, and I remember this, about ten years ago, and it would only air once on PBS, and never again, in which they say that, at least at that time, you could go to the UN and see the volumes of this economic theory, that the UN, okay, enforces an economic system on each country that the system must conform and harmonize.
01:24:29.000 Sir, that's the OECD, the Organization of Economic OECD Cooperative Development, shut up during the Marshall Plan.
01:24:37.000 That's right.
01:24:37.000 And it says that the tax at the world level has to be 87%.
01:24:42.000 And if in fact you have a society that is not consumer-oriented or could be exploited in some way, even if the country is the most decent country on earth, you just don't meet those economic standards, You'll wind up having economic sanctions or embargoes placed against you.
01:24:56.000 Or a private bank invasion force.
01:24:58.000 Yeah, it's OECD.
01:25:00.000 They say the world taxation will be set at 85 to 87 percent.
01:25:02.000 Thanks for the call.
01:25:04.000 Total control.
01:25:05.000 Absolutely.
01:25:05.000 I'm fully aware of it.
01:25:06.000 Thank you.
01:25:06.000 I'm just coming to that term.
01:25:08.000 All right.
01:25:08.000 Let's talk to Curtis in Louisiana.
01:25:11.000 Go ahead, sir.
01:25:13.000 Alex, uh, I heard a disturbing, uh, radio broadcast today with Sam Donaldson.
01:25:18.000 They were talking about, uh, this female soldier who had got court-martialed for not taking the anthrax vaccine.
01:25:24.000 Uh, with smallpox and she was breastfeeding, that one?
01:25:27.000 Um, I caught it at the end.
01:25:31.000 Yeah, I don't know which one you're talking about.
01:25:32.000 They're mainly going after... Yeah, they say don't give the... The Bible says don't give it to breastfeeding women or pregnant women, but they're demanding and holding them down and injecting them.
01:25:40.000 Well, the thing that got me is one lady called in and was saying that her son was in and she said, well, if it means the safety of my son, you know, I might have, you know, deformed grandchildren, you know, but as long as it's the safety of my son.
01:25:56.000 And one guy was in there saying, well, you know, the military rule is you obey orders You obey him now, because if not, you know, um... I guess that means that Hitler was good then, and I guess the Nazis were good at just following orders.
01:26:12.000 Well, they were saying in Vietnam that they shot people for not obeying them, and he said she should have a dishonorable discharge.
01:26:19.000 And I hear the break, and I wanted to make a comment about the microchip, if that's okay.
01:26:22.000 Sure, real quick, and we got a guest coming up.
01:26:25.000 Stay there, my friend.
01:26:26.000 I'll let you finish up briefly.
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01:27:16.000 Tom Flacco is coming up in about 15 minutes.
01:27:20.000 Or even less than that, in about 12 minutes.
01:27:24.000 He sat in on the hearings that were public that Bush now wants to make classified.
01:27:28.000 Turns out the White House is on the phone with the FAA an hour before the hijackings even began, doing some weird operation.
01:27:35.000 The government was running a drill of flying hijacked jet airliners into buildings.
01:27:38.000 That's AP as well that morning from the CIA headquarters.
01:27:43.000 Just some of that nice stuff for you, your loving government, that's got the police in black uniforms wearing skull patches.
01:27:49.000 That's coming up.
01:27:51.000 Believe me, you don't want to miss this interview.
01:27:52.000 And I know we've got a lot of callers.
01:27:55.000 Real quick, because then I've got other guests on for just a few minutes.
01:27:58.000 Curtis, you wanted to finish your point.
01:28:00.000 Go ahead.
01:28:01.000 Yeah, this point is about the microchip.
01:28:04.000 As far as I understand it, if you take the microchip, then you have the mark of the beast.
01:28:10.000 Is that true?
01:28:13.000 It's up for debate, but this whole system, the biometric cashless society system, is a totally dehumanizing program.
01:28:23.000 It's the track and trace and tax you at a very high level.
01:28:26.000 For the world ID card system and it needs to be resisted.
01:28:29.000 But not according to Pat Robertson, the chip isn't a problem now.
01:28:32.000 Go ahead and take it.
01:28:33.000 But obviously, obviously it's bad news and a world government system wants you to take a chip to buy and sell.
01:28:38.000 They're promoting it in the news.
01:28:40.000 Shall we see where this is going?
01:28:42.000 Well, what I was thinking is that if it does say that in the Bible, that that's the mark of the beast, you can just say that because of your religious beliefs that you don't want to take it.
01:28:53.000 Oh yeah, and the FBI's training police that Christians are terrorists.
01:28:57.000 See, that's the problem.
01:29:00.000 Hey, Curtis, I appreciate the call.
01:29:01.000 Good points.
01:29:03.000 You bet.
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01:38:21.000 Okay, we're going to get Tom Flacco on now.
01:38:24.000 And to get into some really hardcore news, I just hope people take advantage of this special and this deal.
01:38:32.000 Now, Tom Flacco has written for dozens of major publications that I respect.
01:38:39.000 Scoop, World Net Daily, Newsmax, Narco News, Judicial Watch, His website is tomflocco.com.
01:38:52.000 I've been admiring his work for years.
01:38:55.000 He has been sitting in on the 9-1-1 White Wash Commission meetings.
01:39:01.000 I talked to him last night.
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01:39:05.000 Just in the last 12 hours, and the bombshell he dropped on me was amazing.
01:39:11.000 White House on the phone with the FAA finagling something right before the hijackings.
01:39:16.000 You add this with the CIA doing drills of flying planes into buildings that morning, right while it was happening.
01:39:20.000 That was the stand-down of NORAD.
01:39:23.000 You've got the public officials like Mayor Willie Browning told on to fly, Ashcroft not flying, admitted.
01:39:29.000 You add all this together with the hijackers with credit cards and homes and cars paid for by the FBI.
01:39:35.000 It starts getting really scary, folks.
01:39:37.000 Tom Flacco, who sat in on the hearings, great to have you on, sir.
01:39:41.000 Good to be with you, Alex.
01:39:42.000 You bet.
01:39:43.000 You were there, the top story.
01:39:45.000 Can you tell us what you, first off, about this FAA call from the White House?
01:39:51.000 Well, there are a number of conflicts of interest.
01:39:56.000 It's a little bit of an insider's club.
01:39:59.000 They looked to me like they were going to go after As I said, I just put up a brand new story that went up in the last hour, less than an hour.
01:40:08.000 It's called 9-11 Commission Testimony.
01:40:10.000 Too hot to be under oath.
01:40:12.000 All of this convoluted, confusing testimony, conflicted testimony, none of it was under oath.
01:40:18.000 And I literally discussed in the story a little bit about how I was treated.
01:40:24.000 I was brushed off.
01:40:25.000 I went up and I tried to, you know, I got in and I laid my head on the pillow, or actually it was late in the afternoon on Thursday.
01:40:31.000 And the real testimony started, you know, where we had government officials in the afternoon at one o'clock.
01:40:36.000 In the morning, you had Senators and Congressmen pontificating and basically sticking up for the families and calling for all, you know, the right things.
01:40:43.000 We need a full investigation and so forth.
01:40:46.000 But in the afternoon, it began to get... Basically, a bunch of theater at the first.
01:40:52.000 It was theater in the morning, exactly right.
01:40:54.000 Photo-op type of theater.
01:40:56.000 And in the afternoon, It started with Jane Garvey and, of course, there were problems with the timeline.
01:41:02.000 They started really hitting her with the timeline.
01:41:05.000 And really, on the surface, it looked like the commission members, there were ten commission members, three of them, by the way, had to recuse themselves because they represent airline companies who are being sued by the families, which, to me, should really even disqualify them.
01:41:23.000 Because, see, here's the problem.
01:41:24.000 what they're not saying is that they provide uh... at you know a conflict
01:41:29.000 here because they are able to uh... to conduct a to contact
01:41:34.000 through their partners and uh... in the in the other half of the case the
01:41:38.000 suits again i guess the victim families or with the victims are suing them
01:41:42.000 they prove can provide information flow uh... evidence information especially because it was it
01:41:48.000 under oath but also you
01:41:51.000 uh... have a lesson of the intelligence committee people who were in the first
01:41:54.000 whitewashing now still involved meeting with the head of pakistani intelligence
01:41:58.000 the week the week of nine one one
01:42:00.000 all the head of pakistani intelligence one hundred thousand dollars from
01:42:03.000 ahmad adda there there are exactly that's uh...
01:42:08.000 The story we did last week, Thursday or Friday, the damage control team testifies on Friday.
01:42:13.000 I think we put that out on Wednesday or Thursday.
01:42:18.000 The evidence that must be subpoenaed, in other words, this evidence is a must for us to get to the bottom of the military.
01:42:27.000 I know you've done a lot to cover, but right out of the gates, before the shower ends, you were telling me about the White House involved with the FAA before the hijackings?
01:42:35.000 Yes, we're still working on that story.
01:42:36.000 we're going to that uh... we're still working on that story and and uh...
01:42:40.000 uh... this this was a real but you know kind of a bit of a bombshell that they've
01:42:45.000 it i don't i think that regardless uh...
01:42:48.000 where you spend at the actual genesis the actual and and and
01:42:52.000 you know when the call was initiated But after Garvey's testimony, the public relations director, now Garvey has gone since to work for a law firm.
01:43:01.000 Tell them who Garvey is and tell them real quick about this FAA call.
01:43:04.000 Former head of the FAA on the morning of, you know, 9-11.
01:43:09.000 She was the FAA director.
01:43:11.000 And of course they have certain protocols, and the big issue was, you know, why did you wait so long to contact NORAD?
01:43:17.000 Well, when they did contact NORAD, there's some things that we're going to be reporting.
01:43:21.000 We've got some inside information.
01:43:23.000 As a matter of fact, there are any number of little stories that we're going to be getting into, none of which I've seen yet in the media anywhere.
01:43:30.000 uh... you know some of its takes a little bit of digging but
01:43:33.000 this this f_a_a_ uh... barbara was her name came up with starting to pass her business card was this
01:43:39.000 lady pester business courses
01:43:41.000 f_a_a_ p_r_ you know uh... director and you know uh... that the media
01:43:46.000 director so forth and so i walked out my schedule you know who are you to
01:43:49.000 start tell me well and we've got other information that uh...
01:43:53.000 you know that that uh... there were there were contacts uh...
01:43:57.000 and it happened before the uh... the penny the planes crashed
01:44:00.000 And I said, you're kidding me.
01:44:02.000 You were contacting other government officials?
01:44:04.000 Yes, we were involved with the Defense Department and NORAD and the White House, she said.
01:44:13.000 Now, I was standing there and we got this information and I corroborated this with another fellow, my co-founder, the guy that worked with me originally with Unanswered questions.
01:44:24.000 Kyle Hentz, you had the two of us on when we first started back in, you know, I basically... So think about this.
01:44:29.000 We've got them just walking around admitting, oh yeah, we were, we got the FAA and NORAD and the CIA, they're all doing something that morning before the hijackings.
01:44:38.000 Well, we asked them when this happened, when this phone, they call them teleconferences or phone bridges and so forth, and that was mentioned in the story, but they spun it a little differently the next day, but... Stay there.
01:44:48.000 I want to, I mean, you know, the meat and potatoes when we get back, Stay with me, I'm Alex Jones.
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01:48:15.000 Alright, we're talking to Tom Flacco, investigative journalist for some major publications, like Newsmax, World End Daily, Initial Watch.
01:48:24.000 And he's been there, and he's up there walking around, and there's people that are handing out business cards, trying to testify, I guess trying to get information to the whitewashing committee, Again, tell us who this lady is again, her name and what her possession is, and what she told you.
01:48:41.000 It was damage control.
01:48:44.000 Basically, she was trying to say there were other people involved.
01:48:48.000 Her name again?
01:48:50.000 Her name was Laura Brown.
01:48:51.000 Laura Brown.
01:48:54.000 It's a question of the next day.
01:48:57.000 We had called and we had tried to confirm all this.
01:49:01.000 Then the White House, by the time we called after dinner that night, I called individually, called on the phone on my cell and got her on her cell.
01:49:09.000 I said, well, now this happened.
01:49:11.000 She had told us earlier that, I said, when did this happen?
01:49:14.000 She said, well, we started all the phone calls minutes after we had ascertained that the first plane had been hijacked.
01:49:22.000 Now we're talking about as early as 8, 13 in the morning according to The two best timelines, that was when the flight controller, the first air traffic controller, said the plane was hijacked at 8.13.
01:49:34.000 So somewhere, the NORAD would say, and the other timelines, the government timelines, they try to compact and back it up because it makes them look better if it's not an hour, hour and a half over the period of the crash, because of what they were doing and the actions of high government officials during that period.
01:49:52.000 So when you have these actions going on for an hour and a half, It looks much worse than if it were going on for, say, half an hour.
01:49:59.000 Yeah, so Bush is leaving his hotel to go to the school, and they now admit he already, quote, knew a plane had hit a building, but now it turns out even before that they knew.
01:50:09.000 He was told seven different times by seven different individuals before he walked into the elementary school that the first plane had hit the tower.
01:50:22.000 That's important.
01:50:23.000 Yeah, that is important, because later he claimed that he learned there on television that was more theater.
01:50:28.000 In your face, America!
01:50:29.000 So what exactly did Laura Brown from the FAA have to say?
01:50:33.000 Well, by the time we got to nighttime, then she said, well, you know, it's not the way.
01:50:38.000 She wouldn't even talk about the way.
01:50:40.000 I'm not going to talk about that now.
01:50:41.000 What did she say earlier at the committee hearing?
01:50:44.000 She had said that basically there were phone conversations going on And I said, well, you know, I said, well, what about 813, 825, 820?
01:50:53.000 Yeah, somewhere in there.
01:50:56.000 I said, Laura, that was before any of the planes crashed.
01:50:58.000 That was before even the first plane had impacted the building.
01:51:01.000 So, conversations going on between who?
01:51:03.000 You said FAA and NORAD?
01:51:05.000 NORAD, Department of Defense, Rumsfeld and NORAD, Department of Defense, you know, the FAA, the White House.
01:51:14.000 I'm not sure whether the FBI and CIA were involved.
01:51:16.000 No, she said CIA.
01:51:17.000 Yes, she did.
01:51:18.000 Said CIA was involved.
01:51:20.000 And, you know, what happened was, by 8 o'clock that night, when we called back for more information to confirm and to further discuss it, she wouldn't talk about the White House and she wouldn't talk about the Times.
01:51:33.000 And she said, I'm going to send you a statement.
01:51:35.000 Wait for our statement.
01:51:36.000 In other words, she was back talking with Garvey.
01:51:39.000 And again, who is Laura Brown, for those that don't know her exact position?
01:51:44.000 She is the Public Relations Director for the FAA.
01:51:48.000 So what happens is you get something this big, there's always spillage.
01:51:52.000 How are they covering up the CIA, quote, running a drill that morning, applying hijacked jets into buildings?
01:52:00.000 Well, see, that was brought up.
01:52:01.000 You've heard of Amalgam Virgo?
01:52:05.000 Okay, that was what it was called.
01:52:06.000 There was also a National Guard program Mindy Kleinberg referred to, but there was literally a hijacking drill that was brought up by Benveniste.
01:52:17.000 And by the way, Richard Benveniste, if you look at the story on my site, TomFlacco.com, look on the brand new story that went up in the last 45 to 55 minutes.
01:52:27.000 And at the bottom of that, you'll see the words, conflict of interest.
01:52:30.000 And I really get into the major, and we can do this later on, of Richard Benvenista.
01:52:35.000 Stay there, Tom Blanco.
01:52:36.000 We'll get to this when we get by.
01:52:38.000 But think about this, folks.
01:52:41.000 Think about it.
01:52:42.000 And of course, that was the smoke screen to have the good people in ORAD stand down.
01:52:47.000 He just, oh, there's a hijacking drill going on, boys.
01:52:50.000 Sit down.
01:52:51.000 Sit down.
01:52:54.000 Are you prepared?
01:52:55.000 Seems that more terrorism on our soil is inevitable.
01:52:57.000 Chemical attacks, biological, nuclear, who knows for sure what dangers lie ahead for America.
01:53:02.000 Recent articles have pointed to vulnerability in our ability to-
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01:54:18.000 And he's been sitting in on the hearings and talking to people.
01:54:21.000 And there was an FAA PR spokesman, Laura Brown, there.
01:54:25.000 And he walked up to her.
01:54:26.000 She started going, oh yeah.
01:54:29.000 You know, 8.20 or whatever in the morning, right when the transponders got turned off, we were already in these phone trees with the Pentagon, the CIA, NORAD, the White House.
01:54:40.000 And so this is amazing.
01:54:42.000 Now, we also know the CIA was caught running drills of flying hijacked jet airliners in the buildings, starting at about 8.20 in the morning, according to the Associated Press.
01:54:50.000 So, this so happened, they were running a drill of these exact things happening.
01:54:54.000 That's how they could tell the military, stand down, it's just a drill.
01:54:56.000 When it happens, they say, shut up about it.
01:54:58.000 This is how you control a compartmentalized system.
01:55:03.000 Tom Blocko, continuing with what you said.
01:55:05.000 Later, you called her that night, and she's, hey, I'll send you a statement.
01:55:08.000 What happened next?
01:55:11.000 Tom?
01:55:11.000 What she said, now the statement says that it was, you know, the FAA and the, I think you've mentioned the CIA, it was the FAA Command Center, FAA Department of Defense.
01:55:28.000 You said the last segment CIA, Tom.
01:55:31.000 Um, Rumsfeld, the CIA was not mentioned at this time.
01:55:34.000 Earlier you said that someone mentioned the CIA.
01:55:37.000 Secret Service was mentioned and other government agencies.
01:55:42.000 She took out the White House and put in other government agencies.
01:55:45.000 Oh wait, you're talking about, let me just stop just so we're clear.
01:55:48.000 You're talking about the second statement didn't mention the CIA.
01:55:51.000 She did in person the first time.
01:55:53.000 The second, well, it would mention the CIA both times, the statement that I have here.
01:55:59.000 The White House was left out the second time and they changed the initiation of this phone bridge.
01:56:07.000 To be at the time, shortly thereafter, a few minutes after the first plane impacted the building, which would have been 838.
01:56:14.000 And NORAD tried to change the impacting of the first plane to about 843 or 845.
01:56:19.000 In other words, they kept, there was a lot of discrepancy.
01:56:23.000 Despite the fact that the news had it.
01:56:25.000 Oh yeah, 833.
01:56:26.000 Right, you can't change, you can't change the date.
01:56:29.000 It either crashed at a certain time or it didn't, you know, you can't.
01:56:32.000 You can't have two or three different times that it crashed.
01:56:34.000 Of course, the news just so happened to have their anchors standing in front of big glass windows with the World Trade Centers in the background, right after, you know, within seconds, just all perfectly scripted.
01:56:45.000 Yeah, because you see what happens here is that now, the problem, the whole thing, we're raising all kinds of problems here.
01:56:54.000 For them.
01:56:55.000 And there's a lot of journalists, there's news reporters starting to catch on to the story.
01:56:59.000 Some of us have been looking pretty hard at this for months and months and months.
01:57:03.000 And you can't snow people when you know the timeline, the facts, and you know certain things.
01:57:08.000 You can't say one thing when it just isn't going to fit.
01:57:11.000 And when you look at the fact that this was going on, it boils down to the fact that the commissioners are so conflicted.
01:57:21.000 They can ask so much, but they can't hone in.
01:57:26.000 I'm trying to nicely say to them, you know, hey, we need real good prosecutors, you need a lawyer, and you need someone who can really hone in.
01:57:33.000 Ben Venista was very, very good.
01:57:35.000 A guy who is unbelievably conflicted.
01:57:37.000 Well, it's obvious, Tom, it's a giant whitewash.
01:57:40.000 You've been in the hearings.
01:57:40.000 I want to hear what you saw, what you witnessed when we get back.
01:57:42.000 This is amazing information, and you've written some incredible reports at tompolaco.com or linked through folks at InfoWars.
01:57:50.000 Tom, stay right there.
01:57:52.000 We're going to have Tom for the next 55 minutes.
01:57:54.000 Appreciate him coming on.
01:57:55.000 I'm chomping at the bit here.
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02:02:09.000 Tom, continuing, you've been in the hearings.
02:02:10.000 What are the key points you want to cover and go over here today and this whole conflict of interest and this whitewashing board?
02:02:17.000 Tell us all about it.
02:02:17.000 Well, if we could just get a little run here.
02:02:19.000 I began to look at this thing and I said, this testimony, there's a prompt.
02:02:25.000 People were murmuring.
02:02:26.000 People were looking at each other.
02:02:27.000 There was little smirks and so forth.
02:02:31.000 There was disagreement in the timeline.
02:02:34.000 The commissioners would hone in, but they wouldn't go in for the kill.
02:02:37.000 They wouldn't entrap them to get the real You know, the real information and really prove it.
02:02:41.000 You know, the next morning I said, we've got to get this testimony sworn in, and there's just something that has to be said.
02:02:47.000 So I talked to a fellow by the name of Alvin Feldzenberg, F-E-L-Z-E-N-B-E-R-G.
02:02:52.000 He's the Communications Director for the Commission.
02:02:54.000 He's a former Heritage Foundation Fellow, and writing for the Weekly Standard, this is some of his background, so he's heavily tied in with the administration.
02:03:04.000 He's a neocon!
02:03:05.000 Well, that's about right.
02:03:08.000 You said it.
02:03:10.000 We will not be swearing in witnesses during any of the 9-11 hearings, public or private.
02:03:15.000 And I asked him, is this a wise decision, considering yesterday's hearings with Garvey, and he looked at me, and it conflicted, and there was a disagreement with the timeline, and so forth, and it was going to get worse.
02:03:26.000 It hadn't gotten to that point yet, because this was at the outset of the morning on Friday, and the best stuff was getting ready to start, and I was amazed with Garvey.
02:03:36.000 And Felsenberg required, he says, Congress has indicted individuals for false statements made under oath, and we don't think it's necessary, so no one's going to be sworn in.
02:03:45.000 Would you please sit down?
02:03:46.000 It was literally curt to me, you know?
02:03:49.000 And so, all right, okay, so I sat down, and, you know, we started to listen to the testimony, and the, one of the key things that, when Minetta came in, He started talking about, you know, agreeing with Garvey, you know, we didn't know anything about planes being used as weapons, you know, and then Tim Romer really got ticked off, and he, you know, he talks a good line.
02:04:12.000 We're going to see if he's going to push the subpoena of the President, the Vice President, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Myers, Arnold, all the key players that were, had strange actions at the exact time of the attack.
02:04:23.000 Now let me stop you, Tom, for a second.
02:04:25.000 Obviously it's a whitewash because who's on the committee in the conflicts of interest, But I have MSNBC here classified censoring the report about 9-1-1.
02:04:36.000 Bush officials are refusing to permit the release of matters already in the public domain.
02:04:40.000 I wrote about that.
02:04:41.000 And so they're panicking.
02:04:42.000 Obviously the White House is scared of something.
02:04:44.000 Are they scared that this thing is too much, is leaking out even in their whitewash?
02:04:49.000 Or what's happening?
02:04:50.000 It's coming out all over the place.
02:04:52.000 And this is one of the key things that happened.
02:04:54.000 We found out that I looked up and this guy, Felsenberg, said that we're only going to have 5 or 6, 4, 5 or 6 more public hearings and it's going to shut down.
02:05:04.000 That's a quote.
02:05:07.000 They're just going to have a few more public hearings and all of the private interviews, hundreds he says they're going to have, are going to also be unsworn, not under oath.
02:05:17.000 Keene kept saying we're finders of fact, not triers of fact.
02:05:22.000 Yeah, but what are you going to do when some of this stuff proves incompetence, negligence, likely criminal wrongdoing?
02:05:29.000 Who's going to prosecute these folks?
02:05:31.000 You know, and Jamie Gorelick... Well, they learned back in Iran-Contra that they can go to jail for lying.
02:05:37.000 Look at Admiral Poindexter, the new head of the Spy Division.
02:05:42.000 Now, you know all the players up one side and down the other.
02:05:45.000 Tell the folks who the key players are so when we hear these names we know what you're talking about.
02:05:47.000 Well, look at the Commission, you want to look for Jamie Gorelick.
02:05:50.000 Jamie Gorelick is the only female, and her conflict as a commissioner, she says, we're going to try our best, we don't need to swear him in.
02:05:58.000 Well, I looked up when I got home, my goodness, she serves on the CIA National Security Advisory Panel.
02:06:05.000 So she's tied in, she's on President Bush's Intelligence Review Panel.
02:06:10.000 And this is a commissioner!
02:06:12.000 Okay?
02:06:12.000 And this gives her a total tie.
02:06:16.000 Because she has time.
02:06:17.000 She can go talk to the lower food chain folks and say, these people know who's going to be subpoenaed.
02:06:23.000 They know when they're going to be subpoenaed.
02:06:25.000 They know the information flow that's going to occur in each of the various areas.
02:06:31.000 And they're closely tied into the very people that could be considered culpable.
02:06:36.000 The people that could be subpoenaed to testify.
02:06:39.000 And of course, they've even set that up so that they've got to get a 5-to-5 vote, 5 Democrats, 5 Republicans.
02:06:45.000 McCain says, we hope we can do this by consensus.
02:06:47.000 And not along political battle lines, and that's what's going to happen, because how are you going to get six votes out of ten to subpoena the President of the United States to say, you know, why won't you share what was in the intelligence briefings in July and August and the Phoenix Memo, all of which talked about the planes flying into buildings.
02:07:06.000 They talked about Arabs, scores and scores of Arabs taking flight lessons all over the country at the nation's civilian airports.
02:07:13.000 They talked about a number of other examples.
02:07:16.000 Well, at the World Economic Meeting they had in Italy months before, they had anti-aircraft guns on top.
02:07:23.000 There have been hundreds of news articles before September 11, 2001, where the media was reporting about plans to do this.
02:07:30.000 The Pentagon had had drills before in 2000 in November.
02:07:34.000 I mean, the list goes on and on.
02:07:36.000 But Alex, how do you I have two major problems that I'm pretty well-honed in on.
02:07:42.000 I've done a lot of reading about these and studying.
02:07:44.000 How do you justify, how can the President, how would he be able to justify his actions?
02:07:50.000 Because remember, he's five miles from the elementary school, and he's read all these briefings.
02:07:55.000 You know, planes flying into buildings, there's been... Tim Romer came up with about eight to ten prior examples, you know, of the The terrorist attacks and using planes, the Eiffel Tower story, all the different, he listed them all and it was just, we're shaking our heads, it was incredible.
02:08:09.000 In other words, he was saying that there's no way that you could not have known that this was going to be a problem.
02:08:15.000 And of course the CIA Newsweek had that headline, or it wasn't a, hey, they didn't use the right word, I used that headline.
02:08:22.000 You know, the attack is going to come, it will be a massive attack, it's already in preparation, it'll come without warning.
02:08:29.000 All this kind of stuff.
02:08:30.000 He's reading that, and then five miles before he goes to the elementary school, he gets a phone call saying, a plane has hit the tower.
02:08:38.000 And then he hears it again.
02:08:39.000 There's another call, and then more people tell him, and one more in the car.
02:08:43.000 When he gets out of the car, one of his aides rushes up to him.
02:08:45.000 This is all before he walks into the building.
02:08:47.000 So he walks into the building, starts talking with the kids, and he's already heard seven
02:08:53.000 times from seven people that a plane has hit the tower.
02:08:57.000 And then Andrew Clark comes in, a second plane's hit the tower.
02:09:01.000 Now we're not talking about a little apartment store or a store, apartment building or something
02:09:06.000 like that.
02:09:07.000 We're talking about the World Trade Center has been hit twice, and the look on his face,
02:09:11.000 you've seen the photos, you've probably got them in your videos.
02:09:16.000 continues to stay there I didn't know this.
02:09:18.000 You have to read the reports.
02:09:20.000 He stayed there for 15, 20, 25 minutes.
02:09:22.000 And he had to because then he had to be away from people so that people couldn't say, hey, shoot down the other planes.
02:09:29.000 Well, exactly.
02:09:30.000 Exactly right.
02:09:31.000 And so he's still there.
02:09:32.000 All the reporters had left the elementary classroom to cover the real story, the two planes hit the tower.
02:09:38.000 He's still in there chit-chatting, but at the same exact moment, At a time when the President of the United States is totally vulnerable.
02:09:47.000 Everybody in the world knows where he is because it's announced at the photo op.
02:09:50.000 He's there.
02:09:51.000 They know where he is.
02:09:52.000 At that moment, Vice President Cheney is being dragged by his elbows down into the basement to the PEOC Center.
02:09:58.000 That's the Presidential Emergency Operations Center.
02:10:01.000 PEOC, it's called.
02:10:02.000 And that's where they all met.
02:10:03.000 Minetta was down there.
02:10:05.000 Garvey, I think, was down there.
02:10:07.000 Members of the CIA, the generals, and so forth.
02:10:10.000 And Cheney.
02:10:11.000 And so you have these kind of strange things, but then, I've got some other information that I'm not going to, I'm working, still making some calls, and I'm on my source, I'm dealing with a, we have a source, and you're not going to go on the record, I don't think, so we're going to have to say it's the source here, and they just won't go on the record, but we know that there's strange things happening with Myers.
02:10:31.000 This is, you've got to remember, it's already been reported that General Myers spent a full hour incognito, and did not come out of his office with Max Cleland, His senatorial buddy at the time, until all the planes had crashed.
02:10:47.000 Their strange behavior.
02:10:48.000 But guess what?
02:10:49.000 Now, what about the meeting?
02:10:51.000 Alex, Alex, Max Cleland is on it.
02:10:52.000 Sir, Tom, Tom, what about the meeting in Nebraska with all these CEOs and then Bush flies into there and Warren Buffett?
02:11:01.000 I mean, what are these weird meetings they're having?
02:11:04.000 That I don't know about, but Max Cleland's on the commission.
02:11:07.000 Think about that.
02:11:09.000 In other words, Max Cleland has total access to all of the information flow, the military stand-down, who's going to be subpoenaed, when they're going to be subpoenaed, what people have said after they've been subpoenaed.
02:11:20.000 And this is a guy who is closely tied to Myers, who next to Bush was the key guy in the military stand-down.
02:11:29.000 And they're in a room locked up together.
02:11:32.000 Oh, it's incestuous.
02:11:34.000 And then they've got Gorelick for the CIA ties, okay?
02:11:38.000 And then I went on about, I mean, after you coming up on a break here, I've been told that the stuff with Richard Benvenista is incredible.
02:11:46.000 We'll talk about that when we get back, and tell us who this individual is.
02:11:50.000 Yeah.
02:11:51.000 Richard Benvenista?
02:11:52.000 Yeah, who is he?
02:11:53.000 Richard Benvenista is the former Watergate prosecutor.
02:11:57.000 He's got a number of other ties too.
02:11:59.000 He represented the world's most famous drug dealer, that's Barry Seal.
02:12:04.000 and uh... people on the commission so we got a guy who represent the most famous
02:12:07.000 drug deal in the world commission well that's a conflict or not
02:12:11.000 the giant c_i_a_ operation it's just it's it's it's what we're talking about here is a
02:12:18.000 lot of conflict and what it's all in town tom how do they
02:12:21.000 answer the thing of the uh... norad role of flying planes with the c_i_a_
02:12:26.000 flying planes in the buildings as it's happening that morning
02:12:28.000 the drill starting right when the real stuff actually have a lot of that's
02:12:31.000 incredible they they spot their way out of what you'll have to i'm
02:12:35.000 sure that information avail is available
02:12:37.000 One of the key things, one of the key things that was hit, that your listeners should be aware of, is that there were multiple planes.
02:12:46.000 At one time, 21 or 26 planes, I think it was either 21 or 26 planes were called, I think it was 21, were called hijacked.
02:12:53.000 And there was an order to shoot down every one of them.
02:12:56.000 And it was given by, well they didn't say, it was either Cheney or the President, and NORAD would not tell When, I need to tell you that answer, that was a critical thing.
02:13:06.000 When the plane was, when that order was given, because they kept that off the timeline too.
02:13:11.000 Yeah, later, just to make it look good to the military.
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02:17:53.000 We've got to expose the involvement and the prior knowledge of 9-1-1 or they're going to continue to carry this stuff out until all our liberties are destroyed.
02:18:01.000 The anthrax led back to the CIA and the Feds.
02:18:04.000 It goes on and on.
02:18:05.000 Other key areas of these hearings, what developed, what are some of the other things you saw during these hearings and more on the conflict of interest by the panel?
02:18:17.000 Yeah, the issue of the conflict of interest, With regard to Richard Benvenista, this is the kind of thing that's going on.
02:18:27.000 Benvenista represents Meyer, Brown, Rowe & Maul, which is a German international law firm.
02:18:33.000 Now remember, German international law firm.
02:18:34.000 You're going to catch this in a minute.
02:18:36.000 It's absolutely incredible.
02:18:38.000 This firm is the lead firm which represents United Airlines against the 9-11 victim families in the litigation in New York City in the District Court of Manhattan regarding the 9-11 suits for airplane negligence.
02:18:51.000 And after trying to turn it into an airplane negligence situation rather than the other issues of the military stand down, the insider trading, all the other issues that are also addressed here.
02:19:02.000 So the government investigator is working for the airlines?
02:19:07.000 Well, he's a partner for the law firm.
02:19:09.000 See, it gives him access.
02:19:11.000 He has access to all of the information, all of the subpoenas, who's going to subpoena, when they're going to subpoena, what they said when they were subpoenaed, all the interviews, all that information, and he's a partner in the firm that represents, and the way he said he's going to deal with it when we asked him is that all he's going to do is just not going to write any decisions about improving airport security.
02:19:32.000 But who the heck cares?
02:19:33.000 That's not the important thing, is he has access to all the other areas.
02:19:36.000 And the media calls this an independent commission.
02:19:39.000 It's a total conflict of interest.
02:19:42.000 He represented Barry Seale, and that makes your eyes raise.
02:19:47.000 A CIA coke runner.
02:19:49.000 Meyer Brown also is involved and represents the Bayer Corporation, which is the maker of Cipro, which fights anthrax.
02:20:00.000 Larry Klayman has... And Bayer also just got caught shipping known AIDS-tainted blood to the world, New York Times Monday.
02:20:08.000 The Bayer, um, Bayer makes Cipro, which fights anthrax, and of course the President was taking Cipro on the first day of the attack.
02:20:15.000 Almost 30 days prior before they even discovered anthrax on Capitol Hill.
02:20:20.000 And the White House Press Secretary slipped up and admitted that.
02:20:23.000 Yes, exactly, and Clayman's going after that information.
02:20:26.000 Meyer Brown, this is Benveniste's law firm, also has another partner named John P. Schmitz.
02:20:32.000 He was a 12-year deputy counsel to George H.W.
02:20:35.000 Bush during his vice presidency and presidency.
02:20:41.000 This gives, now, a partner in the firm The same firm as one of the Commission members.
02:20:48.000 Access right to the White House with discoveries, subpoenas, evidence, everything.
02:20:52.000 And it goes right to the top.
02:20:55.000 But Meyer Brown also represents Enron.
02:21:01.000 They also represent Deutsche Bank, knee-deep in the insider trading.
02:21:04.000 Are you seeing what's happening here?
02:21:06.000 You've got to realize that almost every one of these Commissioners is linked in with a key person who Is likely considered, you know, to have had potential prior knowledge, almost positively prior knowledge, of the attacks.
02:21:23.000 And that's why they don't want to... And they all stand to gain by setting up the military-industrial complex, takeover of America, invasion of all these countries, grabbing the oil, weapons sales, and political hay.
02:21:34.000 Alex, the only way you're going to stop this, because there's nobody on the Commission, all they're going to do is gather facts and issue a report.
02:21:40.000 If they have the most incredible negligence, criminal wrongdoing, they're going to do nothing about it.
02:21:46.000 The only way that this is going... we need to have literally an independent council To investigate this.
02:21:51.000 I never thought I'd say that word, but we need some... Yeah, but you know this so-called independent counsel would be like Starr, somebody who was on the law firm that was hunkered in Wampoa, the commie Chinese.
02:22:02.000 Then who are we going to get to do it except turn it back to Congress?
02:22:04.000 Hey, we just need to educate the public.
02:22:06.000 We need to keep suing the government like Stanley Hilton's doing.
02:22:11.000 We need to continue to just educate people so we all know the fraud.
02:22:16.000 I mean, look, you say independent investigators, sure, it would be good to have congressmen and women who weren't involved on this who were independent, maybe have 20 members, but that's not going to happen, is it?
02:22:29.000 Congressmen on the committee, you've got to remember, if George Bush releases the unredacted version of the July and August briefings, Which would show that he had prior knowledge.
02:22:42.000 Then he's also going to say, hey wait a minute, why are you going after me?
02:22:45.000 Because all these guys on the Senate and the House Intelligence Committee, they got most of this stuff too!
02:22:51.000 So they're all involved in it, but what I'm saying is, Tom, you know a independent investigator counsel isn't going to be independent.
02:22:59.000 They never are.
02:23:00.000 Of course, but we've got to get somebody to... Stay there.
02:23:03.000 How about Henry Kissinger?
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02:23:48.000 We've got people who represent folks like Barry Seale, the admitted CIA drug trafficker, who are in law firms that represent the airlines that are being sued by victims' families, who represent banks who are involved in insider trading.
02:24:06.000 We've got C.I.A.
02:24:08.000 people that are on the C.I.A.
02:24:10.000 board on the committee.
02:24:11.000 We've got generals.
02:24:13.000 We've got all... I mean, it's a sick joke, and that's why I made the joke there at the end of the segment last segment with Tom Flacco that, okay, well then let's just go ahead and appoint Henry Kissinger.
02:24:23.000 They already tried their independent council and it was hair Kissinger so I'm just saying yes it'd
02:24:31.000 be nice if there was some magic person who was independent.
02:24:33.000 That's not going to happen.
02:24:34.000 You won't even find a democrat to do it because they were all involved on this.
02:24:37.000 They all get power out of this.
02:24:39.000 They're all voting with Bush on homeland security and the Patriot Act and gun grabbing and Chuckie
02:24:43.000 Schumer loves Bush and Bush is hugging Daschle.
02:24:46.000 I mean in reality they're all together.
02:24:49.000 This is the government takeover.
02:24:51.000 They all get power out of it.
02:24:53.000 It's all happening right now.
02:24:54.000 Before we go back to Tom Flacco, who's just done incredible work.
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02:25:10.000 Bush now wants to make even the public hearings secret.
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02:28:29.000 Tom, you were there.
02:28:30.000 Any other key tidbits of stuff that leaked out in the testimony that freaked out the chairman?
02:28:35.000 I've heard they limited key witnesses to like three minutes, would tell them to shut up.
02:28:39.000 What happened there?
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02:28:41.000 Well, yeah.
02:28:43.000 And by the way, all my people are reading the stories on my site.
02:28:45.000 There is a direct link to Alex's show.
02:28:47.000 I found that the NORAD situation, the timeline was quite a bit different.
02:28:50.000 There were a lot of arguments.
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02:28:54.000 get right to your site i was like you tom and it stays up there for a sixty five days a year
02:28:59.000 yeah uh... there there are other issues that are there coming on i i am
02:29:03.000 i found that the that the norad situation the timeline was quite a bit
02:29:07.000 there was a lot of arguments that the the uh... uh...
02:29:11.000 uh... romer and who had a big problem with with uh...
02:29:15.000 with some of the issues particularly uh...
02:29:17.000 you know when the president that you know when the order to shoot down the
02:29:20.000 planes was given.
02:29:21.000 Because, you see, that becomes a, you know, that becomes a very, very critical, you know, part of the timeline.
02:29:28.000 It tells you when the President, you know, was really in charge, you know.
02:29:33.000 And so, you've got that issue, which is one that just has to be dealt with.
02:29:39.000 And they're going to turn it in.
02:29:41.000 They were so adamant about that, that they said, look, we want this turned in.
02:29:45.000 We want it turned in right away, but now that has not come out by the news.
02:29:48.000 We've got to wait for the next hearing, you know, and there's only going to be, you know, four, five, six more hearings.
02:29:54.000 Now Bush wants to make this classified.
02:29:56.000 Why do you think he's doing that?
02:29:57.000 Oh, he's got to because he could lose his presidency.
02:30:00.000 If the public finds out, in those July and August intelligence briefings, that he knew ahead of time, and God forbid if he was literally on the phone reacting before any of the planes crashed, because you know the planes weren't traveling full speed.
02:30:19.000 Benveniste said, why were you flying planes out of the neighborhood?
02:30:23.000 In other words, why were you scrambling jets from miles and miles away when you had Anacostia right across the river?
02:30:30.000 You know, you had the, what was the other base?
02:30:34.000 There's another base right there.
02:30:36.000 I can't think of it off the top of my head.
02:30:38.000 But the issue was that he was asking, why were you bringing in planes that you knew weren't going to get there in time, in other words?
02:30:48.000 And that was the whole part of the issue.
02:30:50.000 And you've got to remember, remember Benveniste's company, the law firm, Meyer Brown, also represents Enron.
02:30:59.000 You know, they also, Enron's got an office right there in Uzbekistan, which is right in the Caspian Sea Basin, where all the oil is.
02:31:09.000 Tom, you add to this the hijackers having their homes, cars, and credit cards paid for by the FBI, none of the hijackers still alive, people trained at U.S.
02:31:16.000 military bases, U.S.
02:31:19.000 troops massing in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, Bush having the launch orders on his desk to invade Afghanistan two days before 9-1-1, you add to this all these hundreds of other factors, public officials admitting they were told not to fly to New York that day, Well, you know what?
02:31:33.000 all this together than the motives of police statements being shut up the
02:31:37.000 borders still being wide open all of this you've got it all together it's obvious this is
02:31:42.000 a globalist who they talk well you know what uh... one of the things that
02:31:46.000 needs to be done there'd be the president of the united states if if he
02:31:49.000 doesn't come before the commission
02:31:52.000 and or somebody and and uh...
02:31:56.000 offer his testimony in front of
02:31:59.000 competent individual That's the key thing.
02:32:01.000 Because you need people like yourself.
02:32:03.000 There's a ton of us out there who know the questions.
02:32:05.000 You need a lawyer who can sit there and say, hey, this is what's got to be done.
02:32:10.000 You know, we've got to, we've got to, uh... Well, that's, that's, that's, you know, that's hoping for, you know, that's, it's just not going to happen.
02:32:18.000 It's grasping at straws.
02:32:20.000 Let's go ahead and take some calls, Tom.
02:32:22.000 John in Tennessee, thanks for holding her on the air, sir.
02:32:26.000 Yeah, instead of covering the 9-1-1 hearings, C-SPAN this week has been showing high school leadership sessions sponsored by Comcast, Grips Howard, AT&T, who are members of Bohemian Grove.
02:32:37.000 Very few replays, right.
02:32:40.000 I noticed that too.
02:32:41.000 And the U.S.
02:32:42.000 military always runs a war game at the same time it's making a first strike.
02:32:47.000 Attack, but usually it's not attacking the United States, it's attacking somebody else.
02:32:51.000 Well, I hope that people will send me the hearings on video because I have very little of it.
02:32:56.000 I'm asking listeners to get me any copies you've got.
02:33:00.000 I'd just like to tell a story that happened to me when I was in the Air Force in England in the 80s, when the U.S.
02:33:06.000 Air Force and Navy made a first strike attack on Libya.
02:33:09.000 They called it Operation El Dorado Canyon.
02:33:12.000 And we were in the middle of a week-long, routine NATO exercise Loading live weapons on all the aircraft.
02:33:19.000 We first learned of the invasion on TV that morning, on our way to work, and it was obviously a bait and switch to not only fake out the Libyans, but to fake out the British news media, and to fake out the U.S.
02:33:31.000 military members who, you know, wouldn't volunteer to kill a bunch of civilians while they slept in their homes.
02:33:38.000 And according to the Chief of Public Affairs of the U.S.
02:33:41.000 Marine Corps at the Pentagon, Dr. Stoney Merriman, Uh, who retired from the newspaper in Al Gore's hometown of Carthage.
02:33:49.000 Uh, he said U.S.
02:33:50.000 Special Forces actually rescued President Gaddafi as the U.S.
02:33:55.000 jets were closing in on the bombing runs, which ended up killing two U.S.
02:33:59.000 pilots.
02:34:01.000 Uh, so how many U.S.
02:34:02.000 pilots would have volunteered knowing the whole mission was fake?
02:34:06.000 And that's like 9-1-1.
02:34:07.000 Who's gonna volunteer for Pulling off 9-1-1 if they knew what was really going on, so they just lie to everybody with these fake exercises.
02:34:17.000 Yeah.
02:34:18.000 There's definitely a cover-up here.
02:34:21.000 The problem is, are the right people going to testify?
02:34:24.000 And we know who they are.
02:34:25.000 You've got Arnold that's got to testify, and I doubt they're going to call him the President.
02:34:32.000 Cheney, Rumsfeld, you know, the whole bunch.
02:34:35.000 Tenet, Ashcroft.
02:34:39.000 Mueller.
02:34:39.000 See, the problem is they're going to bring Mueller up.
02:34:42.000 He'll testify.
02:34:43.000 But Mueller has already lied to Ted Koppel on ABC during a rant concert.
02:34:48.000 And I already printed part of that interview from the television show.
02:34:53.000 So you've already got examples.
02:34:55.000 You've got to bring people underneath at the bottom of the food chain, work your way up, and get conflicted statements.
02:35:00.000 Look, we've just got to educate the public one person at a time of this Matrix-like lie.
02:35:05.000 We've got to do it or they're going to keep carrying out terror.
02:35:07.000 And I think people are waking up.
02:35:09.000 And to what's happening.
02:35:10.000 We've just got to keep pushing that way and totally discredit the system and all the things they're doing.
02:35:15.000 Anything else you want to add, John?
02:35:17.000 Didn't the Pentagon found C-SPAN?
02:35:21.000 Aren't they inventors of C-SPAN?
02:35:24.000 Well, I don't know.
02:35:25.000 There is a board of directors.
02:35:26.000 I know when we had our press conference on June the 10th last year, it's coming up on a year at the National Press Club that we launched Unanswered Questions and we were first working with that and we've researched the heck out of it.
02:35:38.000 More you're going to find, we've got to get accountability now.
02:35:41.000 There's plenty of research, but they wouldn't broadcast it.
02:35:45.000 It was a matter of course that C-SPAN broadcast everything at the National Press Club, for the reasons I had the press conference there.
02:35:52.000 We had all these speakers come in, and it was really first class.
02:35:56.000 We really tried hard, and C-SPAN didn't even come and cover the thing.
02:36:01.000 We found that there were board of directors.
02:36:05.000 That makes the decision, and somebody called up and said, we don't want this covered.
02:36:08.000 I'm sure that happened.
02:36:10.000 Because this thing was, they had innocuous things at the same time.
02:36:16.000 It just didn't make sense.
02:36:20.000 Absolutely, well it makes sense if you know they're terrorists.
02:36:22.000 Thanks for the call, John.
02:36:23.000 And you know this government's totally corrupted on our government.
02:36:26.000 Wyatt, Maryland.
02:36:27.000 Go ahead, Wyatt, you're on the air.
02:36:28.000 Go ahead, Wyatt, you're on the air.
02:36:34.000 Yeah.
02:36:34.000 Hello.
02:36:34.000 How are you doing, Alex?
02:36:35.000 Fine.
02:36:36.000 Okay.
02:36:38.000 Tom, there's a lot of things that is terrible.
02:36:41.000 Mary Schiavo, did you hear her?
02:36:43.000 She's a former Assistant Secretary of Transportation.
02:36:47.000 Well, I have mixed... I know inside things about that situation.
02:36:52.000 Tell us what you saw Mary Schiavo say.
02:36:57.000 Oh, well, what I heard her say was, first of all, as she was being introduced, they had already Preempted strike on her and said she only had a few minutes.
02:37:08.000 That she had prior engagements right after this timeline problems.
02:37:12.000 So she said that when she was introduced she gave her testimony in writing and then she said she'd like to summarize her testimony.
02:37:21.000 And it's for three minutes.
02:37:22.000 Now we're writing a story on the matter of fact it's already written.
02:37:27.000 Okay.
02:37:27.000 We're going to put it up this weekend and it will deal Very, very closely.
02:37:31.000 You want to watch my website?
02:37:33.000 Well, what did Mary Schiavo say?
02:37:35.000 Okay, well, this is what happened.
02:37:36.000 She started laying it out that, hey, we had, everyone had knowledge about the possibility of planes flying into buildings.
02:37:44.000 And as she kept going on, she really wasn't summarizing her story.
02:37:48.000 She was, she wanted to speak.
02:37:51.000 She wanted to lay things out, but then they interrupted her after about five minutes and said, your time is up.
02:37:57.000 And she was off.
02:37:58.000 But I think if you can get in touch with Mary Skiavo, you might have some information.
02:38:03.000 Also, I don't know the time of this, but the Washington Post ran a five-part series on the timeline of the entire incident with who knew what and where.
02:38:17.000 And that would be something to research, go back on to the Washington Post.
02:38:21.000 And find out, because there may be lots of conflicting evidence, because in the Washington Post article, it said that Dick Cheney gave the order to shoot the plane down in Pennsylvania.
02:38:34.000 Yeah, and again, that's later, at the end of the final plane, to look good for the military.
02:38:38.000 Sure, sure.
02:38:39.000 And also, one of the final things, Alex's video shows film footage from the French film crew of the first plane entering power, The South Tower.
02:38:53.000 Well, when the film crew, when they pan back, when they pull the camera back so you can see the building in its entirety, you can see something streak past.
02:39:04.000 Yeah, a white aircraft.
02:39:05.000 It's a jet.
02:39:06.000 It's a military jet.
02:39:08.000 And you can still frame it and catch it and see it.
02:39:11.000 Well, if that's the case, then they had jets in the air.
02:39:16.000 Well, yeah, there were jets in the air.
02:39:17.000 Yeah.
02:39:17.000 No, I mean, there were military jets right there as it happened.
02:39:21.000 Well, earlier Tom talked about how he talked to this Mrs. Brown, Laura Brown, the FAA PR lady, and she's like, oh yeah, you know, when the transponders were first off, we had the phone tree with the Pentagon.
02:39:37.000 And when she realized that, she said the White House was involved.
02:39:41.000 Right.
02:39:42.000 Then the whole thing changed, because when she says that this took place right after the first initial hijacking, You know, they noted that the hijacking started.
02:39:51.000 Well, then I said, wait a minute, that can't be, because if that happened, that means they were all talking before any of the planes even crashed.
02:39:59.000 Right.
02:39:59.000 And Jamie Gorelick, when she questions people, she formulates the question stating all the facts that she once answered with the yes or no.
02:40:12.000 I told you, she's CIA.
02:40:13.000 Yeah, I know she is.
02:40:15.000 But it's a whitewash.
02:40:17.000 Anytime anyone is not under oath, they should lie with abandon.
02:40:24.000 No, don't lie.
02:40:25.000 It's an independent commission.
02:40:29.000 We're going to have John Gotti and all the other mob bosses over the trial of low-level gangster.
02:40:36.000 It'll all be very good.
02:40:38.000 The whole thing is a RICO operation, Alex.
02:40:40.000 Yes, it is.
02:40:41.000 Good luck.
02:40:42.000 All right, thank you, Wyatt.
02:40:43.000 Tom, we've got a final segment, a few other calls on the other side of this quick break.
02:40:47.000 Any other key areas you want to hit on?
02:40:48.000 But, you know, I'm glad you've been there.
02:40:51.000 I want to tell you who the real chairman of the committee is.
02:40:53.000 Would you like to know?
02:40:53.000 Oh, sure.
02:40:54.000 OK.
02:40:56.000 Tell us now.
02:40:56.000 I'll tell you now.
02:40:57.000 OK, right.
02:40:57.000 Well, the real chairman of the committee, I believe, is Lee Hamilton.
02:41:02.000 As nice and as full of integrity as Tom Kane is, a nice guy.
02:41:07.000 You know what?
02:41:08.000 He's not up to speed in this, baby.
02:41:09.000 For those who don't know, we'll tell you who Lee Hamilton is when we get back and more about him.
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02:44:32.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
02:44:45.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:44:50.000 We fight the war for the Republic, a daily battle against the New World Order, the usurpers, the enemy combatants, the intelligence communities that work for the big central banks that are overthrowing America, shutting a police state.
02:45:03.000 Brzezinski, co-founder of the Trilateral Commission, said in his 1998 book that they needed a Pearl Harbor event, or a string of events, to unify the people of America behind the war for global empire and domination, and to set up a police state.
02:45:17.000 The Project for the American Century, the President's own think tank, with Cheney and Rumsfeld writing it, said that Saddam wasn't a threat, but they needed terror attacks as a pretext to invade.
02:45:26.000 Catastrophic events, terror attacks.
02:45:29.000 We have them, ladies and gentlemen.
02:45:30.000 We know the truth.
02:45:33.000 And we're going to fight the New World Order.
02:45:35.000 We're going to stand up against these people.
02:45:38.000 Now, this is the facts of the matter.
02:45:40.000 And so many people say, oh, there's been an investigation.
02:45:43.000 You know, they tried Henry Kissinger.
02:45:44.000 Why do you think they tried to put Henry Kissinger in there?
02:45:46.000 That had to be... They have to be delusional in their ivory towers to think that we would buy Henry Kissinger, Tom.
02:45:55.000 What do you think about the Henry Kissinger attempted appointment that they had, Tom?
02:46:00.000 I did a research on that.
02:46:01.000 I was going to write a story, but it wasn't that important.
02:46:04.000 Keane was appointed the very next day after.
02:46:07.000 In other words, Kissinger was just stuck up there as a straw man.
02:46:11.000 They knew they weren't going to take that, and then they had Keane, and he came up the next day.
02:46:16.000 But you were asking about what other folks... I think a key player to watch is the commander of NORAD on the day of the attack.
02:46:24.000 His name was Major General Larry Arnold.
02:46:27.000 I had some individual face-to-face with him that I'm going to be writing a story about coming up shortly.
02:46:33.000 I'm still working on that one, however.
02:46:35.000 But in his direct testimony on the attacks, he confirmed Minetta and Garvey saying, you know, we didn't know anything about planes being used as weapons and the whole concept was unavailable to us.
02:46:45.000 But yet, Keene and Hamilton didn't stop the commission and ask why, ask them whether the president had shared the intelligence documents about planes and buildings An Arab has taken lessons that the President hasn't.
02:47:01.000 Now what about the real unofficial chairman of the committee?
02:47:04.000 Tell us about this guy.
02:47:06.000 I believe it's Lee Hamilton because anytime the two of them stood together, Hamilton did all of the talking and Keene would just stand there.
02:47:13.000 He's a nice guy and I think he was picked because he's not up to speed.
02:47:16.000 By the time he gets up to speed, the commission will be over.
02:47:19.000 If you push me against a wall, Yeah, that's what I'd be saying.
02:47:25.000 And you've got to remember, Hamilton was the guy that was heavily involved in helping to cover up the Iran-Contra and BCCI scandal.
02:47:33.000 These people will ever be brought to justice, or is it that they're in control?
02:47:37.000 It's too horrible to believe what they've done, and so now they're just going to be able to carry out more of this and get total control of our lives.
02:47:43.000 Alex, there's not enough of us.
02:47:44.000 That's why I doubt it's going to happen.
02:47:46.000 They don't have anything set up to prosecute these people.
02:47:50.000 The only thing that would stop it is if we basically got in there and started lobbying like AIPAC and some of the other groups and go in there with busloads of people in the halls of Congress And literally sitting in the halls, civil disobedience, phoning, faxing, calling the offices... But then the CIA would just mail anthrax to the Capitol again and shut the whole Capitol down.
02:48:11.000 Yeah, and you'd have to shut down offices so people would realize this is what happened with Clinton when he was impeached.
02:48:18.000 What I'm saying is the feds would shut down the Capitol and we'd be doing that by mailing some more anthrax.
02:48:23.000 Yeah, they'll do anything.
02:48:27.000 It's very difficult.
02:48:29.000 I don't see it happening.
02:48:31.000 Alright, Tom Flacco, we'll have to get you back on.
02:48:33.000 Godspeed.
02:48:34.000 We'll watch your website for developments.
02:48:36.000 Thanks for coming on, bud.
02:48:37.000 Take care.
02:48:38.000 We'll be in touch.
02:48:39.000 God bless you.
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