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00:00:42.000 It's already Thursday, the 29th of May, 2003.

00:00:47.000 I'm Alex Jones.

00:00:48.000 And I was wrong yesterday.

00:00:50.000 I said Michael Hager, The Economist, was coming on yesterday.

00:00:52.000 It was today.

00:00:53.000 I wrote it down wrong in the book, so that's coming up in the second hour to talk about the economy, the dollar, where things are going in the future.

00:01:00.000 He's a best-selling author and an expert.

00:01:02.000 He's done some incredible forecasting.

00:01:05.000 We have another guest coming on in Alabama and Georgia and other states in the South.

00:01:13.000 They're having massive military checkpoints for the last three years in a row.

00:01:17.000 Now, I've caught some of these on video here in Texas, but now they're routing the highway off the road, the cars, into the National Guard Armory.

00:01:28.000 They are ransacking vehicles, literally foaming at the mouth.

00:01:33.000 We have seen this over and over and over again, and we've got a guest coming on to talk about that, coming up in about 30 minutes.

00:01:43.000 This is what the National Seat Belt Use Initiative was all about that Bill Clinton funded with billions of dollars a year in 98.

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00:02:03.000 So training you, there is no posse comitatus law against troops on the streets.

00:02:08.000 It was going on before 9-1-1 and they said in their own government policy reports that they needed terror attacks to get the public to accept this.

00:02:18.000 So that's coming up.

00:02:20.000 Also, evidence is pouring out now that The Iraq report, the documents they got from Saddam, 8,000 plus pages have been cut out, now we're finding out they rewrote portions of that, rewrote other dossiers, total and complete lying fraud, in your face! 0.58

00:02:41.000 Another article here out of Ohio.

00:02:43.000 Students will scan for meals.

00:02:45.000 They say cash and cash registers are outdated.

00:02:48.000 So are meal tickets.

00:02:49.000 If you want food, you've got to enroll and thumb scan.

00:02:52.000 And yes, if your parents forget and don't put money in the credit card system, Child Protective Services will be called on you.

00:03:02.000 And I have the Pentagon saying they want to know what we watch, who we talk to, what we eat.

00:03:07.000 We'll all swipe national ID cards to buy and sell very soon.

00:03:11.000 It's already unfolding.

00:03:13.000 And this is simply training the youth for this total information awareness network system.

00:03:21.000 So that's coming up as well.

00:03:23.000 Folks, it's just, I've never seen such tyranny.

00:03:25.000 It's just, it's in high gear.

00:03:28.000 Also, durable orders drop, renews economic fears, Supreme Court ruling increases federal power, CIA, truck trailers in Iraq, had bioweapons labs, they're trying to say that now.

00:03:40.000 Also, I heard Joyce Riley yesterday talk about a report that we covered a few years ago, but I think it's important to bring it back.

00:03:48.000 And I actually went and didn't just get the news article, we dug out the actual National Security Council slash CIA report.

00:03:57.000 We're posting this on InfoWars.com right now.

00:04:01.000 Brazil launches inquiry into U.S.

00:04:04.000 population activities and it was a sponsored program using IMF World Bank money to forcibly sterilize half the women in Brazil and 13 other countries.

00:04:18.000 They say 10, and you read into it, it's actually 13.

00:04:21.000 So, that's coming up.

00:04:23.000 Your government forced sterilizations through the vaccines, through other systems, admitted with Henry Kissinger and others involved.

00:04:32.000 We have the actual 30-page report here.

00:04:35.000 It's all coming up.

00:04:38.000 Al-Qaeda warns of threat to water supply.

00:04:40.000 When you hear Al-Qaeda, that means CIA.

00:04:42.000 They're going to get you unless you give all your rights up to them, and then still they're going to get you.

00:04:46.000 Canada's SARS quarantine spreads a suburban high school.

00:04:50.000 U.S.

00:04:50.000 plans extended stay in Iraq, report says.

00:04:53.000 A bunch of the so-called bombing suspects are dying in custody, so, you know, they weren't good patsies.

00:05:00.000 The torture didn't work, so they went ahead and took them out.

00:05:02.000 It's all coming up.

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00:08:09.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:20.000 We talk about real issues that affect you and your family.

00:08:23.000 We expose the architecture of the New World Order.

00:08:28.000 The dark citadels of control being built at every level of our society.

00:08:34.000 The mindset of the globalists, their own policy reports, their own statements, their own publications.

00:08:42.000 We expose their crimes that are blaring and are legion.

00:08:48.000 I do this Monday through Friday from 11 a.m.

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00:09:00.000 until 4 a.m.

00:09:03.000 And my friends, again we have a guest coming up in about 23 minutes.

00:09:09.000 I have video of military checkpoints, helicopters, troops searching vehicles from back in 1999 on video in my film, The Takeover.

00:09:20.000 We know that the government's been getting rid of the law that bars them from doing this, Posse Comitatus.

00:09:27.000 And now in Georgia and Alabama and other areas, they set up giant military checkpoints and they route traffic off the road through the National Guard armories.

00:09:37.000 They search the vehicles.

00:09:39.000 This is the new America, which we've got a guest coming up about that.

00:09:43.000 Then I have Michael Hager coming on today.

00:09:45.000 It wasn't yesterday.

00:09:45.000 It's today, The Economist, to talk about the economy, obviously.

00:09:50.000 And we're going to have wide-open phones.

00:09:53.000 I heard Joyce Riley talking about the report out of Brazil yesterday, so I went and got the actual document.

00:10:00.000 We're posting it on InfoWars.com right now.

00:10:04.000 Of course, this has been out for years, but I think it's important to remind people of it.

00:10:09.000 She reminded me when I heard her show yesterday morning.

00:10:13.000 And I have the actual report put out by the National Security Agency and the CIA, Population and National Security, 30-page report where Dr. Kissinger and others talk about exterminating half of the third world's population through birth control, forced sterilization, and it's been going on since the mid-70s, tens of billions of dollars of your tax money to do it, And, uh, my friends, it's just amazing.

00:10:42.000 Here's the headline.

00:10:42.000 Brazil launches inquiry into U.S.

00:10:44.000 population activities.

00:10:46.000 Billions sterilized to meet U.S.

00:10:48.000 policy objectives.

00:10:50.000 The U.S.-sponsored program that resulted in the sterilization of nearly half of Brazil's women has prompted a formal congressional inquiry sponsored by more than 165 legislators from every political party that is represented in the Brazilian legislature.

00:11:03.000 The investigation has ignited after information about a secret U.S.

00:11:08.000 National Security Council memorandum on American population control objectives in developing countries was published in the Journal of Brazil and other major newspapers in early May.

00:11:22.000 Now, again, this goes back to the early 90s.

00:11:24.000 We have the 30-page report directly off the Library of Congress.

00:11:29.000 You can link through at Infowars.com and read it.

00:11:34.000 And it goes on to say the U.S.

00:11:35.000 foreign policy document officially known as National Security Study Memorandum 200 or NSSM 200 detailed a plan to target 13 large developing nations with intensive efforts to promote population policies that would allow the U.S.

00:11:50.000 to run massive birth control and sterilization projects in those countries.

00:11:56.000 And in Brazil alone, 44% of women were sterilized.

00:12:00.000 Brazil, the study said, was placed on the list of 13 target nations, because it clearly dominates the continent of South America demographically, and its population was projected to equal that of the United States by the turn of the century.

00:12:13.000 This and the report, which was jointly prepared for the National Security Council in 1974 by Central Intelligence Agency and the Departments of State and Defense, And the Agency for International Development.

00:12:24.000 This is what the Army does, folks.

00:12:26.000 Taking over your life.

00:12:27.000 Suggest a growing power status for Brazil and Latin America and on the world scene over the next 25 years.

00:12:34.000 The NSC report listed 12 other nations whose growth could give them increased political influence and which were also to be targeted under the International Population Program.

00:12:43.000 Those are Nigeria, Egypt, Ethiopia, Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, Bangladesh, India, Thailand, the Philippines, Mexico, and Colombia.

00:12:52.000 The document, which is over 200 pages in length, was written after a proposed World Population Plan of Action was denounced by large numbers of African and Latin American nations by the Vatican.

00:13:03.000 During the UN Population Conference held in Bucharest in 1974, the formerly classified Strategically Strategy document was approved as an integral part of American foreign policy in 1975 by Brent Scrocroft, who served as then-President Gerald Forrest's Secretary Advisor.

00:13:21.000 And it says he occupies the same office, of course, in the first Bush administration.

00:13:25.000 Reports about the document as well as about the Brazilian inquiry have since appeared in every part of Brazil and throughout Central and South America.

00:13:35.000 And the report goes on to say that they wanted a sterilization of half the women in the country And it goes on and on and on.

00:13:45.000 Brazil's Ministry of Health, which had begun an investigation of the sterilization program before the American Population Strategy documents were disclosed, has revealed that 44% of all Brazilian women between the ages of 14 and 55 have been permanently sterilized.

00:13:57.000 The older women apparently had the operation done when the program started nearly two decades ago.

00:14:03.000 News reports charge that many of these women underwent the operation without their knowledge or consent. 0.82

00:14:08.000 Of course, the UN is involved in this too and was part of the forced sterilization of tens of millions of men who were castrated over the last 30 years in India under UN funding.

00:14:21.000 And it goes on and on and on and on and on.

00:14:25.000 So this is the mindset.

00:14:26.000 So you go ahead and take your vaccines, America.

00:14:30.000 People wonder why the male sperm count is down by 76% as of 2000.

00:14:35.000 I haven't seen the numbers in 2001 yet or 2002.

00:14:38.000 They come out years after.

00:14:41.000 Europe's sperm count is down by 80 plus percent.

00:14:46.000 I know dozens of women that are friends of the family who are healthy, who don't use drugs, who are 30 years old, who cannot have children. 0.74

00:14:55.000 Europe's population in some cities is off by 50%.

00:14:59.000 Overall, in the next 30 years, Europe will lose about 40% of its population.

00:15:05.000 Whole cities are ghost towns now in Germany and France and England.

00:15:09.000 They're replacing them with immigrants from the third world. 1.00

00:15:12.000 So you can see what the policies have done.

00:15:14.000 It's not just in Africa and Latin America.

00:15:16.000 So you go ahead and take your tetanus shot.

00:15:19.000 You go ahead and give your daughter that tetanus shot and you wonder why she can't give you grandchildren 15, 20 years from now.

00:15:25.000 Okay, no grandchildren for you!

00:15:27.000 No grandchildren for you! 0.99

00:15:31.000 And by the way, the 30-page report goes in to details of how to do this.

00:15:41.000 They're doing it through vaccines, through forced sterilization, and a lot of the contraceptives they implant in people through the big parenting so-called centers.

00:15:51.000 They're sterilizing people.

00:15:53.000 You are totally insane if you take anything from the medical establishment, if you believe anything they do or say. 1.00

00:16:00.000 You are nuts! 1.00

00:16:01.000 You are off your rocker! 1.00

00:16:04.000 Again, last week I read all the mainstream news articles about five times more likely to have autism or brain damage from MMR. 0.96

00:16:12.000 They found cancer viruses, bizarre synthetic hormones that sterilize all this garbage in the vaccines.

00:16:22.000 They admit the anthrax shots they gave the troops made a bunch of them die or become ill.

00:16:26.000 They admit the plant had been ordered shut down.

00:16:28.000 But they didn't care.

00:16:29.000 They're still injecting.

00:16:31.000 It goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

00:16:39.000 Yes, it's horrifying.

00:16:41.000 Yes, it's terrifying.

00:16:42.000 Why don't we start telling the truth? 0.89

00:16:44.000 Why don't we stand up and say no to all this trash and do it now?

00:16:49.000 There's another article, a newer one. 0.67

00:16:51.000 The government has taken two hundred billion dollars of your tax money backing up IMF and World Bank loans to the dictators of the third world who were ordered not to pay back the loans.

00:17:06.000 Then they signed deals for forced sterilization and inoculation programs to carry this out.

00:17:14.000 This is another National Security Memorandum mainstream, but they're counting on you not to read it.

00:17:20.000 Little known agency for international development project seeks to turn block corporate assets into birth control funds.

00:17:26.000 The U.S.

00:17:26.000 government has contracted with a large accounting firm, this is from 1992 folks, to negotiate the release of up to 200 billion in block corporate assets located in developing countries and to buy off massive, that's a quote from the document, amounts of foreign debt in exchange for capital to extend the U.S.

00:17:41.000 population program.

00:17:44.000 The effort, which was launched in 91 under President Bush, Theoretically produced billions of dollars which would be funneled into secretive activities to compel the use of birth control by millions of people in the developing world, including sterilization.

00:17:57.000 The first contracts were in the billions.

00:18:00.000 And it goes on here to explain how they do it and guess who the accounting firm is that did the deal.

00:18:10.000 Deloitte and Touche, again tied in with Enron and others.

00:18:14.000 And Arthur Anderson.

00:18:16.000 I mean, it just never ends, folks.

00:18:18.000 It never ends.

00:18:20.000 By the way, population growth is now massively slowing.

00:18:24.000 The West is dying.

00:18:28.000 It's incredible.

00:18:29.000 It is absolutely incredible.

00:18:32.000 So, I told my webmaster to post this.

00:18:35.000 It's being posted.

00:18:37.000 May already be posted.

00:18:38.000 Population and National Security, the 30-page report by the CIA.

00:18:43.000 This is mainstream.

00:18:46.000 Hear that?

00:18:48.000 Right here, ladies and gentlemen.

00:18:50.000 And then you can read the news articles out of Brazil and other countries.

00:18:53.000 This is your loving government.

00:18:56.000 You go ahead and care about them.

00:18:57.000 You go ahead and do whatever they say.

00:18:59.000 Okay?

00:18:59.000 They're going to take good care of you.

00:19:03.000 Got some interesting articles here today.

00:19:05.000 Bomb suspect dies in custody.

00:19:07.000 London Guardian.

00:19:08.000 The man who allegedly organized suicide bombings that killed 43 in Casablanca 12 days ago has died in police custody, officials said.

00:19:14.000 This is the death of Abdullah Mousabata.

00:19:19.000 Was blamed on heart and liver problems.

00:19:22.000 Oh, it says he died while they were interrogating him, but it's all accidental.

00:19:28.000 Yeah, just like Lee Harvey Oswald got gunned down being let out in the parking garage.

00:19:32.000 Got to get rid of the patsies. 0.80

00:19:34.000 Pentagon Report, New Guantanamo suicide attempts. 0.94

00:19:37.000 That brings the number up to 27.

00:19:39.000 And there's been some deaths too.

00:19:41.000 And General Baucus, the head of the camp, resigned saying he wouldn't torture 12-year-olds.

00:19:47.000 That doesn't seem to matter.

00:19:48.000 They've got a new general and the article in Reuters on Monday.

00:19:53.000 Death camps.

00:19:54.000 U.S.

00:19:54.000 announces death camps.

00:19:56.000 Nothing like freedom.

00:19:57.000 Death camps.

00:19:58.000 Doesn't scare me.

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00:25:04.000 We could not wait any longer.

00:25:06.000 The government is setting a precedent To produce vaccines at just a few plants, companies that own the military industrial complex, that are owned by the big banks, they are sterilizing us and brain damaging us, changing our DNA, in a massive program of eugenics, and we have their own documents! 0.86

00:25:28.000 For the love of humanity, I pray that you will wake up And that you will face the horror and together we can spread the word and save America!

00:25:43.000 But ignorance is holding up this scaffolding of evil.

00:25:47.000 The average doctor giving you the shot is mandated by the AMA.

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00:25:55.000 The AMA says it's good.

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00:25:58.000 The AMA is a corporate body owned by the military-industrial complex.

00:26:03.000 And it's compartmentalization!

00:26:05.000 Only the people working at the vaccine plants at the higher levels, only a few hundred, know what they're doing, and they're all CIA! 0.71

00:26:18.000 Many of them are Nazis, ladies and gentlemen, literally!

00:26:24.000 We are under attack, ladies and gentlemen, and you've got to face the facts!

00:26:30.000 The head of the University of, uh...

00:26:33.000 University of Illinois scientists medical school went public about the vaccines with the cancer viruses and all the trash.

00:26:40.000 More people are standing up and saying the world is round not flat.

00:26:46.000 The problem is they're going to carry out more terror and they're going to say you got to take all these injections.

00:26:52.000 Thank the good Lord above that The mass of doctors and police and firemen refused the smallpox shot.

00:27:01.000 They were going to then have them forcibly inject you.

00:27:04.000 They passed the law, but it's an illegitimate criminal law.

00:27:09.000 We are not going to take their injections, so now I'm reading hundreds of reports a month where they're moving to engineer the vaccines into the food supply. 0.69

00:27:18.000 They're already trying to ship pharmacological corn, pharmacological ...beets, pharmacological rutabaga, pharmacological all this stuff, to Africa with the trash in it!

00:27:35.000 And Africa is dying in mass, panicking, refusing the food. 0.98

00:27:41.000 Everything is just bonkers, ladies and gentlemen.

00:27:44.000 We are under massive attack.

00:27:48.000 By what can only be described as pit of Hades, say, panic forces.

00:27:57.000 I mean, it just freaks me out every day to do this show.

00:28:00.000 I cannot believe how insane things have gotten.

00:28:03.000 And the stuff I forget about.

00:28:05.000 I mean, I had forgotten about the policy report that's been public for over a decade, where they said they want to sterilize half the women in 13 third world countries, and now they did it, they carried it out. 0.57

00:28:19.000 And to have this published report, where they talk about forced sterilizations, and to have all these articles that just... Oh, how do you deal with it?

00:28:29.000 I don't know!

00:28:29.000 But I'm glad I know the truth.

00:28:33.000 I'm just glad I know the truth.

00:28:34.000 I'm glad I'm aware of what's happening, and I'm glad that more of you are waking up every day, because this is just insane.

00:28:41.000 This is totally out of control at every level.

00:28:45.000 What they're setting up is so horrible, America.

00:28:49.000 What they're doing to this country makes me so mad.

00:28:51.000 I mean, look at this article.

00:28:52.000 I've been warning you now for four years about this since we first learned of it in Pennsylvania.

00:28:57.000 This is out of Ohio.

00:28:59.000 Texas schools, dozens of school districts in Texas alone are doing it.

00:29:03.000 Thousands total worldwide from England to the U.S.

00:29:06.000 Students will scan for meals.

00:29:08.000 This is out of the Beacon Journal.

00:29:11.000 Students will scan for meals.

00:29:13.000 Akron students will be fingerprinted beginning this fall.

00:29:15.000 Identify them in school lunch lines.

00:29:17.000 After a lengthy debate, a school board members voted 5-2 Tuesday to spend $700,000 on a controversial modernization cafeteria system that's, by the way, federally funded.

00:29:27.000 Board members Rebecca Himenbaugh and Mary Stomer voted no, mirroring the concerns of parents about the cost of privacy issue involving the fingerprinting of students.

00:29:37.000 I don't believe that any parent or student has ever had the expectation that in order to go through the lunch line or to buy a cookie or carton of milk, They or their children would be requested to be fingerprinted first.

00:29:50.000 Said him, Baugh.

00:29:51.000 He says she'll probably refuse to have her three children in Akron schools fingerprinted.

00:29:54.000 The school says we're getting rid of the cash registers.

00:29:57.000 You're gonna do it!

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00:31:30.000 It's been going on since before 9-1-1, and during the click it or ticket system, the Army directed people into the National Guard armory.

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00:33:49.000 Now, we're joined by Bill McFaulin, and he's done a couple other interviews, I'm told,

00:33:55.000 and he lives in Alabama, and I've gotten a bunch of other calls from listeners in the last week

00:33:59.000 since they had the click of their ticket, checkpoints, about military involved in checkpoints

00:34:05.000 from Vermont to South Texas, from California to New York, from Florida to Alabama.

00:34:13.000 And here it is!

00:34:16.000 I have video of this in the takeover, them searching vehicles, part of the highway shut down.

00:34:20.000 In Police State 2000, I have the highway shut down.

00:34:23.000 In the Road to Tyranny, I interview a Marine who in 88 was kicking down gun dealers' doors in a police uniform.

00:34:30.000 Never been in the police as a military SWAT team guy.

00:34:35.000 They've been getting rid of posse comitatus quietly for a long time.

00:34:39.000 Now they shut down highways, shunt traffic into a National Guard armory off the side of the road in Alabama.

00:34:44.000 Search your vehicle, helicopters in the air, has nothing to do with seatbelts.

00:34:50.000 The federal plan, the National Seatbelt Use Initiative plan, part three of the four-part plan, we have the documents in Police State 2000, says that the seatbelt check is the excuse to search your vehicle and to train people to accept internal checkpoints and tolls.

00:35:09.000 And thus, they now have seen, quote, citizen volunteers out at these.

00:35:13.000 Folks, this is horrible.

00:35:15.000 This is worse than Russia, what they're setting up. 1.00

00:35:18.000 This is totally un-American. 0.88

00:35:21.000 And joining me is Bill McFaulin.

00:35:24.000 Bill, tell us exactly what you saw, because I've been getting a lot of calls on this issue in the last week.

00:35:30.000 Tell us exactly what you witnessed.

00:35:32.000 You say you witnessed this years ago.

00:35:33.000 We heard about it years ago.

00:35:35.000 Absolutely, and I moved to Alabama three years ago, and U.S.

00:35:40.000 331 goes north to south through the middle of Alabama down to the Florida coast in the Destin Fort Walton Beach area.

00:35:50.000 The roadblocks have occurred roughly 40 miles south of Montgomery, Alabama in the town of Brantley.

00:35:58.000 They have a huge National Guard armory that sits off to the right side of U.S.

00:36:02.000 331 going north.

00:36:05.000 By the way, folks, this is a round-up drill.

00:36:07.000 Go ahead.

00:36:08.000 Yes, Lee.

00:36:09.000 Two years ago, I was coming back from Montgomery, pulling a 16-foot trailer full of pipe, and we saw a hand-painted sign.

00:36:20.000 My neighbor was 76 years old at the time and was with me to take a day trip to get away from home.

00:36:26.000 We noticed a hand-painted, five-by-five plywood sign that was placed beside the highway.

00:36:35.000 And it was white with black hand-painted letters that was done with a paintbrush.

00:36:40.000 And it said, Roadblock Ahead.

00:36:42.000 We looked at it and both commented it must be a high school prank.

00:36:46.000 It must be high school kids doing something.

00:36:50.000 It was not professionally done.

00:36:52.000 A few hundred yards past that was another sign that said, Roadblock Just Ahead.

00:36:59.000 Rounded a curve and there were several state, federal, police officers, vehicles.

00:37:09.000 Many of the people were armed with M-16s.

00:37:11.000 They had a black helicopter circling overhead with an M-60 machine gun stuck out the door.

00:37:18.000 And they were systematically stopping cars and trucks.

00:37:23.000 The car in front of me had an elderly couple that appeared to be in their late 70s, early 80s.

00:37:28.000 Both had white hair.

00:37:30.000 They were driving a white new Volvo.

00:37:33.000 They were pulled over and made to get out of their vehicle.

00:37:38.000 The traffic was stopped on 331 South at this time.

00:37:41.000 And it was rather sobering to see all of the federal people as well as state and local that were taking part in this.

00:37:50.000 You also mentioned National Guard.

00:37:52.000 And there were National Guard people there with M-16s.

00:37:57.000 We were allowed to pass through, although we drove very, very slowly after the stop.

00:38:02.000 Yeah, they just randomly pick cars out.

00:38:05.000 They stop the Volvo with the old people. 1.00

00:38:07.000 They stop the Volvo with a very old couple in it, and as we drove slowly past them... Those who don't know, they will have CIA...

00:38:15.000 FEMA operators, the type listeners you've seen in the road to tyranny, in Kansas City teaching a classroom of police that quote, Christians, founding fathers are terrorists, so what if they have to die? 0.54

00:38:25.000 We have the training manuals, constitutionalist homeschoolers, and you look conservative!

00:38:30.000 We've seen these happen.

00:38:31.000 If you've got a giant turbine on your head, you speed through.

00:38:35.000 The FEMA directors on the ground will direct the young troops and the police to go after Middle America. 0.95

00:38:43.000 This is training them.

00:38:45.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:38:47.000 Yes, the troops and the police officers looked inside my vehicle as we were driving at two to three miles per hour through the checkpoint.

00:38:57.000 They were lined up in the median of the highway, as well as on the shoulder, looking inside vehicles and deciding who was to get stopped.

00:39:06.000 Now in Police State 2000, we have the video of I-35 shut down for 15, 20 miles, an hour and a half to get through it.

00:39:12.000 Cars going one mile an hour.

00:39:14.000 Cars everywhere.

00:39:15.000 People have been arrested all over the sides of the highway.

00:39:17.000 Giant spotlights beaming it in your face.

00:39:21.000 This was during the day, though, was it not?

00:39:23.000 Yes, it was.

00:39:23.000 Okay, please continue.

00:39:24.000 This is 11 o'clock in the morning, and they had several sheriff's deputies posted on approach roads for at least five miles past the checkpoint that was scrutinizing and looking Now they have these all over the country, they claim they're a seatbelt check, but did you hear me mention that the federal funding of this, billions of billions a year, is to federalize police and train them, there is no fourth amendment?

00:39:53.000 What occurred this previous Saturday during the Memorial Day weekend occurred at the same location.

00:39:59.000 Now describe from the witnesses and the people, because I've been getting calls from people who were eyewitnesses but are afraid to come on, what happened at the National Guard Armory this time?

00:40:09.000 Yes, most of the people who are afraid to come on, they're getting Social Security checks, They're getting retirement checks and they do not want to jeopardize their livelihood.

00:40:19.000 So this is our free country.

00:40:20.000 You go through an army checkpoint, you're afraid to talk about it.

00:40:23.000 That's the freedom of America.

00:40:24.000 Go ahead.

00:40:25.000 Yes it is.

00:40:26.000 This was occurring on all traffic going 331 North, Saturday morning, 11 o'clock in the morning.

00:40:33.000 My neighbors were coming south out of Montgomery.

00:40:36.000 uh... at that time they were not stopping any beach traffic coming south because quite honestly they could not there were thousands of cars going to the beach uh... on three thirty one south so they were stopping the sparse traffic going north and they were pulling everyone into the national guard armory parking lot which is quite large uh... and they had state troopers they had national guard they had local sheriff deputies and city police and uh... they were all looking in the cars searching some vehicles And checking driver's licenses and checking driver's licenses of individuals, I am told, who were not even driving automobiles, but were just passengers.

00:41:17.000 Oh, but the average person, it's about seatbelts, now the EAS FEMA alert system has nothing to do with Amber Alert, is now flashing, report illegal guns, report terrorists, uh, click it or ticket.

00:41:29.000 This is, this is the new America. 0.79

00:41:32.000 Uh, what was going on with helicopters this time?

00:41:35.000 They did have a helicopter circling overhead and that seems to be normal for all the checkpoints.

00:41:45.000 You saw the heavy machine gun hanging out the window two years ago.

00:41:50.000 That is correct.

00:41:51.000 The neighbors who were driving down did not see the machine guns hanging out the windows, but they did see the helicopter.

00:42:01.000 Helicopters are overhead in case they have a vehicle that decides to turn around and not go through the checkpoint.

00:42:08.000 So I guess the Army's gonna then shoot at you.

00:42:10.000 I mean, what's the point of the M60?

00:42:12.000 Well, you know, that's what I thought two years ago when I saw the black helicopter with absolutely no markings on it whatsoever and an M60 machine gun hanging out the window, is what if somebody decided not to stop?

00:42:23.000 Were they going to shoot you off the highway?

00:42:27.000 And I know that this is going on because I I do the health segment on radio several times a month.

00:42:33.000 Many people call me very concerned on a regular basis with checkpoints like you described going on all over the country.

00:42:41.000 We're seeing facilities, and I don't know if you are aware of the huge facilities that are being built along I-10 in Alabama on into Florida and then I-75 south to Orlando.

00:42:54.000 These are facilities that have at least 15, 20 acres.

00:42:59.000 Newsmax reported that one, three, one million man camps are being built.

00:43:05.000 They have a federal purchase order.

00:43:07.000 These are facilities that would first resemble a weigh station that is on, that they have a little off ramp going off where the 18 wheelers get weighed and then get right back on the interstate.

00:43:20.000 However, these facilities have A half a mile of concrete scattered around on the facility, several buildings, towers, radio telecommunications, satellite and everything, one on either side of the interstate.

00:43:36.000 Those are just pick-up centers, and they've got helicopters that fly undesirables to FEMA camps. 0.79

00:43:40.000 Well, you know, they have the facility there that can hold at least a couple thousand cars at any one time at those facilities, and they're being built all along Uh, the Florida Turnpike.

00:43:52.000 Did anybody ask them, uh, what does this have to do with click it or ticket?

00:43:58.000 You know, it's the company, the country's supposedly strapped for money and, um, the states, uh, are crying that they don't have any tax dollars and yet we see Billions of dollars being spent on these facilities that are going up.

00:44:10.000 Sorry, it's the National Seat Belt Initiative.

00:44:12.000 It's $4 billion a year.

00:44:14.000 It started out at $2.4 billion.

00:44:16.000 I have the federal plans and it says internal check points that will be funded by tolls.

00:44:25.000 Which means they'll start placing tolls on federal interstates to support their... They already have in Kansas and Missouri and other areas.

00:44:33.000 Sir, let me read you an article out, because people think this is about stopping terrorists.

00:44:37.000 This is out of the Tribune Review, Pittsburgh Tribune Review.

00:44:40.000 Greensburg police stop immigrants.

00:44:42.000 A wrong turn on a truck of illegal immigrants into a seat belt awareness checkpoint in Greensburg on Monday.

00:44:46.000 But after an hour-long detainment, police let them go.

00:44:49.000 A police officer handing out ticket flyers to drivers on North Main Street near Cabin Hill Drive noticed two men, later determined to be Mexicans, sitting in the front seat of a truck, were not wearing seat belts.

00:44:59.000 They were told to pull over.

00:45:01.000 A search of the truck found five other Mexican men lying side-by-side in the back, concealed by hidden windows.

00:45:05.000 Two women were riding behind the front seats. 1.00

00:45:07.000 None of them spoke English.

00:45:09.000 Turned out that all of them but one were illegals.

00:45:12.000 It was a coyote.

00:45:14.000 The police chief called and the feds, the new US Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration that got rid of the IRS, said it wasn't interested in getting involved and ordered them to release them.

00:45:24.000 The police chief says that 1,262 vehicles were searched, hundreds were arrested and fined and feed, but only citizens, illegals were ordered to be released by the feds.

00:45:35.000 So, isn't that nice?

00:45:37.000 Isn't that nice?

00:45:38.000 Had nothing to do with seatbelts, they were searching vehicles, but if you're a felon, you go through.

00:45:43.000 Well, look at the NAFTA agreement where the broken down tractor-trailer rigs can come across the border from Mexico and run all the way to Canada.

00:45:53.000 And I'm told... By the way, they're turning over and exploding and smashing every day on I-35 in Texas.

00:45:59.000 It's like a death trap driving down it.

00:46:01.000 Coming back from Kansas, we saw a Mexican truck overturned, smashed into 50 pieces with another 18-wheeler.

00:46:08.000 You see them driving with their tires, the rubber flying off of them.

00:46:11.000 Well sure, I'm told... And the brand new American rigs are pulled over being harassed by military police.

00:46:17.000 I'm told that the Mexican Truck drivers cannot be fined under NAFTA.

00:46:22.000 They cannot be, no.

00:46:23.000 And they can run their products from Mexico all the way to Canada.

00:46:27.000 You know, I manufacture nutritional products and I am having a very difficult time even getting my products into Canada right now.

00:46:36.000 Canadian Customs are holding my products as long as 45-50 days.

00:46:40.000 Same thing with my videos.

00:46:43.000 Just holding them and we're having a difficult time getting products to the doctors.

00:46:48.000 Anything else?

00:46:49.000 What else happened?

00:46:51.000 Any other key areas of stuff that developed during these loving military Nazi checkpoints? 0.73

00:46:56.000 The people who are calling me tell me that they have witnessed the same scenarios in rural areas of Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, and I'm sure that as time goes on I'll be getting more phone calls.

00:47:14.000 And these people are very, most of the people that call me are in their 70s, very concerned about their health and welfare with these checkpoints.

00:47:24.000 And it is a concern and I tell each and every person, carry some survival gear in your car.

00:47:30.000 Don't just have it in your house.

00:47:32.000 Carry water, carry some survival gear in case you get In one of these situations where you're stuck there for several hours a day.

00:47:39.000 They have said that if there is one attack, they're going to shut down all the cities, lock everything down.

00:47:45.000 Folks, when they go to Red Alert, you'll have only a few hours to get out of your city.

00:47:49.000 And they're going to lock it.

00:47:50.000 This is martial law, folks.

00:47:51.000 This is military dictatorship coup d'etat.

00:47:55.000 We have the federal plan.

00:47:56.000 Does this disgust you, Bill?

00:47:58.000 Yes, it does.

00:48:00.000 Anything else you'd like to add?

00:48:02.000 I would like to add that I'm sure you've told your listeners a thousand times.

00:48:08.000 Please stop procrastinating and start preparing.

00:48:12.000 It's never too late.

00:48:13.000 You're never going to get finished because I've been preparing for 10 years.

00:48:16.000 I certainly never will be finished.

00:48:18.000 But you've got to have a starting point and you've got to start getting things together.

00:48:22.000 All right, Bill McFallon, a witness of this multiple years.

00:48:26.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:48:27.000 Take care, my friend.

00:48:28.000 Thank you.

00:48:29.000 I'll be back with a bunch of news.

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00:51:31.000 Yes, I'm hysterical, folks.

00:51:35.000 Yes, I'm hysterical folks. I saw the federal plans to put hardened checkpoints with goons.

00:51:47.000 It said they're going to have the new Citizen AmeriCorps at the checkpoints.

00:51:50.000 You heard callers yesterday and I do have the news reports of volunteers out helping search the cars, getting us all involved.

00:51:57.000 Cameras are going up on all the roads, everywhere, rural areas.

00:52:03.000 And the border stays wide open and the feds order, Homeland Security orders, illegals released.

00:52:07.000 They are untouchable.

00:52:10.000 And what is the ACL doing?

00:52:13.000 ACLU.

00:52:13.000 They're saying, I've got the report here from the AP, We're very angry.

00:52:17.000 They're stopping illegals. 0.94

00:52:18.000 They're targeting illegals.

00:52:21.000 These checkpoints are racist and need to be targeted on everyone.

00:52:24.000 It's being done to everyone but the illegals. 0.99

00:52:28.000 This is incredible!

00:52:31.000 And I just read the Tribune Review article about the out of Pittsburgh and I've got dozens of other reports I've seen the last week on this subject.

00:52:37.000 I mean, it's just out of control.

00:52:40.000 And then I read this article, students will scan for meals.

00:52:43.000 The school board woman said, I do not believe that any parent or student has ever had the expectation in order to go through a lunch line or to buy a cookie or carton of milk that they or their children would have to be first fingerprinted, said Heming Bob, who says she will probably refuse to have her three children in the Akron schools fingerprinted.

00:53:04.000 But now they're saying they may not allow packed lunches.

00:53:07.000 For safety, and they may inspect their food to make sure.

00:53:11.000 CPS will be involved if it's not nutritious.

00:53:15.000 Same schools that put all the junk food vending machines in.

00:53:19.000 The state-of-the-art futuristic technology is only being used in one other Ohio school district, Garfield Heights.

00:53:25.000 The system will replace the mail ticket method that has been used in Akron Middle School and cafeterias for nearly two decades.

00:53:30.000 It will not be used, at least initially, in elementary schools.

00:53:34.000 Students' fingerprints will be put into a scanner that will make a template of binary numbers corresponding with the unique swirls and arcs of each print.

00:53:42.000 And then it says here, that I think we're in the 21st century, said board member Linda Kersker.

00:53:48.000 We need to move forward, not backward.

00:53:50.000 And then they say that the cash register and cash is outmoded.

00:53:54.000 And with one touch, this will bring convenience and security.

00:53:58.000 No-ho-ho-ho! 1.00

00:53:59.000 I mean, come on, man!

00:54:03.000 Imagine, 20 years ago, making some 1984 movie, or Brave New World movie, you know, a THX 1138 type film, where the kids, imagine a future movie, imagine if they'd have made America with a K, with Christopher Stopperson, and where the communists take over, and imagine the movie, the kids having to thumb scan to get food, you'd have been, oh, that'll never happen, imagine that nightmare future!

00:54:24.000 And now, there are dozens of school districts that we know of in Texas that are doing it, it's happening in England to get library books, to get food, Oh, man!

00:54:35.000 I mean, come on!

00:54:38.000 And simultaneously it's going in the driver's license facilities, the banks, the grocery stores people, from Kansas to New York to Texas.

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00:57:06.000 Did you ever think you'd open up the newswire on Reuters and read U.S.

00:57:11.000 announces death camps?

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00:57:31.000 Do you ever think you'd hear announcements of hover drones to watch our cities?

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00:57:47.000 Do you ever think you'd see FEMA saying Christians and gun owners are terrorists?

00:57:51.000 Well, it's fact. 0.95

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00:58:45.000 Grant in Minnesota.

00:58:48.000 Grant, you're on the air worldwide.

00:58:52.000 Speaking of out of control, I was recently just surrounded by the military on an unsigned search warrant looking for bombs and explosives.

00:59:02.000 I'm raising... I was lured away from the court by activists on false charges.

00:59:07.000 And while I was there, I have Siberian tigers on my property.

00:59:12.000 While I was there, the military surrounded the place.

00:59:15.000 As they were confiscating my tiger cub, the military were high-fiving each other and laughing.

00:59:25.000 Was this in the newspaper?

00:59:27.000 No.

00:59:27.000 We need to call the newspaper.

00:59:29.000 That's very newsworthy.

00:59:30.000 So they decided you couldn't have these Siberian tigers.

00:59:34.000 They've been stealing people's wildlife on a lot of ranches and farms, even here in Texas.

00:59:41.000 What type of army showed up to steal your goods?

00:59:44.000 It looked like the bomb squads in the military.

00:59:46.000 They had green with ski masks.

00:59:49.000 A lot of them had sniper rifles.

00:59:51.000 I'd say there were at least 30 of them.

00:59:54.000 And they showed up with fish and wildlife or BLM?

00:59:58.000 I'm not sure.

00:59:59.000 I'm supposed to be protected by U.S.

01:00:01.000 Code Title 28 Endangered Species Act.

01:00:04.000 So what exactly happened to you, sir?

01:00:06.000 Describe what developed.

01:00:09.000 Activists were... All they have to do is say somebody got scratched and they'll come in and all somebody has to do is lie to the police.

01:00:18.000 And this girl lied in court Five times on the stand. 1.00

01:00:21.000 So it was a endangered species grabber went and lied in court?

01:00:26.000 Yes.

01:00:27.000 I know, I've seen those stories in the press.

01:00:29.000 And so what happened?

01:00:30.000 The troops hit you and hit you hard?

01:00:32.000 Took my guns, found no explosives, confiscated the tiger. 0.99

01:00:36.000 Now a judge has just ordered it to be put to death.

01:00:40.000 And I can send you a copy of that.

01:00:42.000 Yeah, send that to me.

01:00:43.000 I'll have you as a guest.

01:00:44.000 You should send that to the local news.

01:00:45.000 What did this happen in Loving, Minnesota?

01:00:47.000 Seven miles south of Red Wing.

01:00:50.000 Minnesota, about an hour south of the Twin Cities.

01:00:53.000 And it's going on on a nationwide scale.

01:00:55.000 No, I know.

01:00:56.000 I've seen them all over the place.

01:00:57.000 People that have lions and tigers and have them on their property and, you know, big 20-foot fences.

01:01:01.000 They just show up and say, you can't have these at Machine Gun Point.

01:01:04.000 No warrants, no nothing.

01:01:05.000 Exactly.

01:01:07.000 On a nationwide scale through fake, false fraud, zoning, and public nuisance charges.

01:01:14.000 I want to hear more about this.

01:01:15.000 So they were high-fiving.

01:01:16.000 And my dad was a police officer for 30 years.

01:01:19.000 Oh, they could care less.

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01:04:52.000 Monday through Friday, 11 to 2 central and back from 9 to midnight, I'm here live.

01:04:58.000 Folks, I have to tell you, every indicator of a police state, every indicator of a tyranny, of a despotism is now upon us and I mean, I know people personally out in the country, no criminal record, veterans, old people, SWAT teams raid them, point guns at them, search around, tear stuff up, walk out of their house.

01:05:22.000 It's a sick joke!

01:05:24.000 And then we talk about this in the news, all these checkpoints and pulling people off the road in the National Guard armories.

01:05:30.000 Our whole society is just imploding.

01:05:33.000 And then I hear about people who have exotic game or exotic animals on their ranches or farms.

01:05:39.000 And the environmental groups show up with the police, SWAT teams shove you around, take your wildlife, which you're legally and lawfully allowed to have.

01:05:48.000 Just everybody's being harassed and that's what Grant Minnesota was telling us about.

01:05:52.000 The Army showed up with a SWAT team and took his Siberian tigers and they said put them to death.

01:05:58.000 The judge ordered that.

01:06:00.000 And so this is the new America.

01:06:01.000 He said the troops were giving each other high fives.

01:06:04.000 What did you say to these guys when this happened to you?

01:06:09.000 They just screwed over the wrong guy.

01:06:13.000 Well, I'm... Look, I mean, why were they high-fiving each other?

01:06:16.000 Because I've seen it when they shove an old woman down into a fire ant bed, tell her to sit there in it as the ants crawl over.

01:06:22.000 They'll then do high-fives and, like, do weird monkey behavior.

01:06:26.000 They're not out fighting foreign troops, they're just shoving people around. 0.88

01:06:30.000 It's horrible thugism.

01:06:32.000 So what exactly... What'd they do?

01:06:34.000 How long were they at your farm?

01:06:36.000 Well, they were here for four hours, and when I got back from court...

01:06:40.000 I couldn't get near my driveway.

01:06:41.000 They had about 40 vehicles in the way.

01:06:43.000 So, let me get this straight.

01:06:44.000 You went to court because of a complaint?

01:06:46.000 On false charges.

01:06:47.000 Okay, I understand, but you were at court, you know, going through the judicial process, and then hold on, and then while you were gone, they raided you?

01:06:55.000 Exactly.

01:06:56.000 They had the place surrounded.

01:06:57.000 By the way, in California, when you go turn in your SKS, which they run TV ads saying turn them in, almost everybody gets held at gunpoint at the police station, then they tear your house apart for bringing in the gun they said turn in.

01:07:11.000 So this is all part of the new America. 0.68

01:07:12.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:07:13.000 And all the investigators were laughing as they left, and I had a brand new Satellite 800 Grundig, and it doesn't work no more after they left.

01:07:23.000 They also destroyed one of my surveillance systems.

01:07:26.000 It no longer works.

01:07:29.000 And as they were torturing the tiger on a ten-foot pole with a wire around its neck as they were duct-taping it, the militaries were high-fiving each other and laughing.

01:07:40.000 And a zoo would have taken that Siberian tiger and what, paid you 50 grand?

01:07:44.000 They're going extinct in Siberia and now they're trying to... No, no, just the San Antonio Zoo and it said that it's a very rare type of cat.

01:07:54.000 And I believe the same thing happened in the 30s and 40s.

01:07:57.000 They had it down to 25 tigers in the wild.

01:08:02.000 And so you've got this out at your farm.

01:08:05.000 They show up, and they were high-fiving.

01:08:07.000 What did you say to them?

01:08:08.000 Did you say, this is wrong?

01:08:09.000 I said, what's going on?

01:08:12.000 Why do you have so many people here?

01:08:13.000 Are you sure you've got enough guys here?

01:08:16.000 And my dad was an investigator in Minneapolis for 30 years.

01:08:19.000 He was in the military for 46 years.

01:08:23.000 He fought in Iwo Jima, in Korea, and they have me surrounded.

01:08:27.000 So I've watched the police go from totally helping the community in the 60s and 70s to Thirty years later, it's totally backwards and they're attacking everyone.

01:08:37.000 Well, sir, now you say that, and we're going to go to Ann in Louisiana and John and Bill and others, but tell me, now, you say they confiscated your guns.

01:08:51.000 What did they say that was for?

01:08:53.000 They didn't.

01:08:54.000 Well, earlier you said they took your guns.

01:08:57.000 They took my guns and all my paperwork.

01:09:00.000 But you said they didn't.

01:09:00.000 What does that mean?

01:09:02.000 They did?

01:09:02.000 You're saying they did, so what happened?

01:09:05.000 So they, they uh, so I'm uh, I'm in the process of getting all the charges dropped.

01:09:11.000 No, no, there's been no uh, nobody's committed a crime.

01:09:15.000 Have you gotten your guns back?

01:09:17.000 No, not yet.

01:09:18.000 How many guns did they take?

01:09:20.000 Three.

01:09:21.000 Did they have a warrant?

01:09:23.000 Uh, unsigned warrant.

01:09:24.000 Oh yeah, just a blank sheet of paper, you know.

01:09:26.000 But all that was for was bombs and explosives and paperwork.

01:09:29.000 No guns?

01:09:29.000 Bombs and explosives.

01:09:30.000 They were investigating a terrorist.

01:09:32.000 Exactly.

01:09:33.000 By the way, now when you hear about any type of case, anything, it's called terrorism and the Deputy Attorney General Mike Van Winkle in California said that protesting is now going to be terrorist.

01:09:43.000 I have the I have the Oakland Tribune here.

01:09:46.000 He says because that aids terrorists to protest the war.

01:09:49.000 So this is the new America. 0.70

01:09:50.000 Well, sir, get me some documentation.

01:09:52.000 Hold the newspapers.

01:09:53.000 Tell them about it.

01:09:54.000 Somebody will write a story in your area.

01:09:56.000 Do I mail that to where I order your videotapes?

01:09:59.000 Yeah, just write it to Alex Jones at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas 78704.

01:10:06.000 I'll mail the copy of the judge's decision.

01:10:09.000 Yeah, you need to call all the newspapers and tell them about this.

01:10:12.000 They've been attacking us in the media.

01:10:14.000 All negative.

01:10:14.000 They won't help.

01:10:16.000 Will you send me the articles please?

01:10:18.000 Yes.

01:10:20.000 What did the media say?

01:10:20.000 That you were an evil terrorist?

01:10:23.000 They can't answer one of my questions.

01:10:25.000 My sister has mailed them two sheets full of questions and they can't answer one.

01:10:30.000 But they say in the newspaper articles I won't answer their calls.

01:10:34.000 Oh yeah, that's a favored tactic.

01:10:36.000 Thank you for the call.

01:10:37.000 Send me the articles.

01:10:38.000 Very important, sir.

01:10:39.000 And your information.

01:10:40.000 We'll have you on as a guest, and we'll give the phone numbers out.

01:10:42.000 Find out who the thugs were that came to your house.

01:10:45.000 It's like every day now, we get these calls, whether it's a widow or some guy on a farm or Eugene, Oregon, where the schoolteacher comes out and says, can I go to school?

01:10:54.000 You know, they have the street block.

01:10:55.000 I didn't kill anybody in two weeks.

01:10:57.000 That's what they said to her.

01:10:59.000 Let's talk to John, or no, Ron in New York, and then Bill and others.

01:11:03.000 Ron, go ahead.

01:11:04.000 Hi, Alex.

01:11:05.000 Alex, this thing with the Akron School District is the most in-your-face outrage.

01:11:11.000 Oh, they make the kids thumb scan, no cash allowed, yeah.

01:11:14.000 That's right.

01:11:14.000 It's happening everywhere.

01:11:15.000 And you know what gets to me, really?

01:11:17.000 I gotta say that.

01:11:18.000 I am more disgusted at the type of response that's being reported by parents.

01:11:24.000 They say things like, well, I'll give them a bagged lunch.

01:11:27.000 That's not an appropriate response to this type of thing.

01:11:30.000 What they should be doing is organizing to raise hell Get those school board members removed from their positions.

01:11:37.000 Protest.

01:11:38.000 Well, the school spent $700,000 on it.

01:11:43.000 It is admitted total information awareness.

01:11:46.000 I've got a Pentagon article where they say they quote, want to know what you eat, how you sleep, what you watch, what you look at, what you do.

01:11:54.000 This is it.

01:11:55.000 Your children thumb scanning to get food.

01:11:58.000 That raises great suspicion.

01:11:59.000 Why would a school district want to spend that amount of money to implement what's really an unnecessary system like this?

01:12:04.000 Let me tell you about some of the school districts in Texas.

01:12:06.000 They have fences with a bar facing in.

01:12:09.000 The children wear ID cards with their social security number in a barcode.

01:12:13.000 They are searched on a weekly basis.

01:12:15.000 There are police with black combat boots marching up and down the halls.

01:12:21.000 They have been caught right here in Texas molesting the children.

01:12:25.000 There are CPS people, they do monthly interviews with all the children, asking about mommy and daddy so they can set CPS on them.

01:12:32.000 We are already in a Soviet system, but the news doesn't report on it, and so the average person doesn't know, or it happens to them, and they think, oh, it's just me.

01:12:41.000 Well, any community, and in the case of Akron, it is being reported, the community that's under siege like that, the parents in that area, It's time now for them to act like men and women.

01:12:51.000 Get together and organize and fight this. 0.91

01:12:53.000 Because the damn fact of the matter is that there is no reason for this other than something nefarious. 0.98

01:12:59.000 There's something completely nefarious about wanting to fingerprint a kid so he can get some cookies and some milk. 0.99

01:13:04.000 No cash allowed!

01:13:07.000 That's right.

01:13:08.000 They want to eliminate that.

01:13:09.000 And then you have the school board. 0.95

01:13:11.000 Petty little tyrants.

01:13:12.000 The school board.

01:13:14.000 So this is a federal plan.

01:13:16.000 They're putting them in banks, grocery stores, the DPS, Department of Public Safety.

01:13:25.000 Yeah, safety in your state, really federalized, is getting the template, the face scan, the thumb scan for the system.

01:13:31.000 It's happening, sir!

01:13:32.000 It's happening right now!

01:13:34.000 I know that it is, and I'm pretty certain that they're using all these little indirect methods with very, very poor excuses as cover stories.

01:13:42.000 I'm pretty certain I have the Pentagon Plan in 1968.

01:13:47.000 Well, it's being implemented here because there's no justification for taking down the fingerprints of a child in order to get some lunch.

01:13:54.000 And when that school board member made a statement to the effect that we've got to go forward into the future, who the heck is that member to determine what the people in Akron, Ohio have to do with their children To go forward into an Orwellian future.

01:14:07.000 Sir, they are now fining and arresting parents in Germany and England if they refused to open their mouths to the dentist.

01:14:13.000 They are doing so in Ohio, in Pennsylvania.

01:14:17.000 They take five-year-olds and do genital checks.

01:14:20.000 They caught a lesbo ring doing it in one area. 1.00

01:14:23.000 You all heard about that.

01:14:25.000 I know that the schools have been turned into sort of penitentiaries.

01:14:29.000 And this has been going on for a while.

01:14:31.000 I saw reports, and this was on mainstream TV remarkably, Of a school somewhere in Georgia where they have kids lined up.

01:14:37.000 I mean, they look more like victims in a concentration camp and they have the police go up and down with a dog and sniff them.

01:14:43.000 Could you imagine having a young mind having to be educated in that kind of environment?

01:14:47.000 They're training them for checkpoints.

01:14:48.000 They're training them to thumbstand.

01:14:49.000 They're breaking their will.

01:14:50.000 That's what they're trying to do.

01:14:51.000 They're breaking their will to have any self-respect.

01:14:54.000 And now they're trying to shut down the homeschools.

01:14:57.000 Yeah, that's another thing.

01:14:58.000 That's right.

01:14:59.000 In California, they're going after homeschooling with a vengeance.

01:15:02.000 Oh, they're just saying it's illegal.

01:15:03.000 Haven't even passed a law.

01:15:04.000 They just say, you can't do it.

01:15:06.000 Sir, sir, they're now... I have a clip of the newscast in Police State 3 Total Enslavement where they announce on CBS, in Travis County, you are now guilty until proven innocent.

01:15:16.000 And it says you must leave jail.

01:15:18.000 You must sign a form agreeing that you are a criminal.

01:15:21.000 And in the newscast, they admit people that get arrested for not having a seat belt, which they now do to everybody here, They say, in the newscast, you must sign a form that you are a drug dealer, family violence, a criminal, and many people then sign the form and have their kids seized the next day for being taken in for parking tickets!

01:15:39.000 It's in the newscast!

01:15:42.000 And while Mike Hanson, my cameraman, four years ago, he went to jail for refusing a search, of his car and they portrayed him and said sign it and began doing the pressure points under his neck and then when he got the surveillance camera tape five minutes was missing by the way this is in the uh... houston chronicle today remember when they used homeland security to go out to the legislators when they left yeah that the democratic legislators yeah it turns out that the dps fema command center the tape the five minutes with audio and video uh... where the speaker was in there giving orders that five minutes malfunctioned

01:16:17.000 It just happened to be that five minutes.

01:16:19.000 Of course!

01:16:19.000 How more obvious can they make it?

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01:20:43.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:20:51.000 One of my friends, an army veteran, no criminal record, a contractor, has a little successful contracting company, pull him over to checkpoint, demand to search his car, he says no, they pull him out, beat him up, and he was torn up pretty bad, big guy, didn't even resist them, and then we went to court, and they put through all this trouble, subpoenaed the videotape, and right when it shows them dragging him out of the car, the videotape cuts for two minutes.

01:21:20.000 Now, when Mike got tortured, we got the surveillance camera tape.

01:21:24.000 It's Mike standing there, being booked in, and they walk over with a piece of paper, and then suddenly you see Mike calmly talking, and then all of a sudden you see four or five more jail guards walk up and the tape goes bleep for about five minutes.

01:21:37.000 And then I got this article here, I'm trying to dig it out of the stack, posted it on InfoWars.com, and it says here in the article that, oh, Uh, here it is.

01:21:48.000 This is, uh, this is Houston Chronicle.

01:21:51.000 Malfunction blame for gap on DPS tape.

01:21:54.000 The Texas State Police officials on Monday blamed a faulty duplication machine for a five-hour, five-hour, excuse me, gap in the Capitol security tape that was given to a House Commerce investigating how authorities handled the Democratic walkout.

01:22:06.000 Now, it's been confirmed that they called out Homeland Security and federalized the matter, uh, and they were using the signs, flashing, look for the Democrats, you know, about terrorism, see?

01:22:16.000 I thought it was for missing kids. I don't know if people are trying to run out the clock so we're not in town

01:22:21.000 anymore or if it's just incompetence.

01:22:23.000 Either one, it's bothersome that Representative Kevin Bailey, Chairman of the House General Investigation

01:22:28.000 Committee, Bailey's committee is looking into how the Texas Department

01:22:30.000 of Public Safety coordinated its search for 55 missing legislators on May 12th.

01:22:34.000 Whether anyone associated with the U.S. House, Majority Leader Tom DeLay, helped direct the search.

01:22:38.000 It came on our news that a bunch of the leaders of the House were running around in the FEMA Command Center, Joint

01:22:46.000 DPS Center, the controls, the takeover, radio and TV stations and billboards

01:22:51.000 and everything.

01:22:52.000 I mean, it's just insane.

01:22:53.000 So, it's, see, cameras, yeah, they could be a good thing, but no, because evil people run them.

01:23:00.000 DNA testing, oh yeah, it's 100%, but they get caught running frauds all the time, see?

01:23:05.000 Let's talk to Bill in Alaska.

01:23:07.000 Bill, you're on the air.

01:23:08.000 Welcome, sir.

01:23:09.000 Yes, sir.

01:23:10.000 Alex, how are you today?

01:23:11.000 I am just... This stuff is just out of control.

01:23:15.000 I understand.

01:23:18.000 I'd like to try to encapsulate this for these folks that might be listening.

01:23:24.000 You know, a fascist government, their whole motivation is power for profit and profit for power.

01:23:35.000 If people look up the definition of fascism, they'll find out we have a fascist government.

01:23:40.000 And the only way that these people can compete against the world economy based on slave labor is to enslave us.

01:23:48.000 Is to make us slaves, that's it.

01:23:50.000 And now the biggest part of our economy is prisons, and people getting twenty-something cents an hour in those prisons taking your jobs, people, and you go, good, make them prisoners work, okay?

01:23:59.000 Well, that's the way it's working up here in Alaska.

01:24:04.000 If they have a contract going and need some heavy equipment operators.

01:24:10.000 Rather than paying them scale, they'll find out who's behind in their child support or something like that and get them to work for five dollars a day instead of union scale.

01:24:18.000 That's it.

01:24:18.000 The people mopping the floors at the jails and the city buildings?

01:24:21.000 Yes, sir.

01:24:22.000 Or people on a... See, then when they get... Look, you get arrested for no seatbelt, not having your insurance on you, parking tickets now, they take you, they say sign it, you get into these classes that cost over a thousand dollars, and then they say, okay, you also have to go do community service.

01:24:38.000 That's it?

01:24:39.000 Yes, sir.

01:24:41.000 You know, Alex, what I see here is that, if you remember right, it was just a handful of Assyrians that came down there and took the Jews into Babylonian captivity.

01:24:54.000 And I prayed about it and asked God, I said, what's the deal here?

01:24:57.000 There were enough people to rise up and throw this yoke off. 0.80

01:25:03.000 God showed me that they had no righteousness.

01:25:06.000 That's it!

01:25:06.000 You can't have righteous indignation about what's going on if you have no righteous foundations to push from.

01:25:15.000 And that's pretty much all I wanted to say, but it's the American people's fault. 0.90

01:25:19.000 The repercussions for their sin is built right into the Yeah, I don't think we can have 50 million abortions and God isn't going to punish us.

01:25:29.000 You're right, brother.

01:25:30.000 I just beg God for forgiveness.

01:25:31.000 I'll let you.

01:25:32.000 Let's go, Alex.

01:25:33.000 Thank you, sir.

01:25:34.000 Thank you, my friend.

01:25:35.000 Absolutely on target.

01:25:36.000 Larry, Louisiana, you're on the air.

01:25:38.000 Go ahead.

01:25:41.000 Go ahead.

01:25:42.000 Hi.

01:25:43.000 Hi, Alex.

01:25:43.000 I was listening to the news out of Baton Rouge last night, and it was a lead story and a trailing story I'm going to go over real quick.

01:25:49.000 You've heard the lead story.

01:25:50.000 It was a female soldier was found guilty for not following orders at Fort Drum New York, she refused to take the anthrax shot, citing later in life health reasons, found guilty.

01:26:02.000 So now, get this, she's going to Leavenworth and or dishonorable discharge. 0.94

01:26:06.000 Trailing story, a company called Gentek Has just stopped, gone up 37% today because the Food and Drug Administration has authorized human trials of the anthrax shot.

01:26:20.000 Oh yeah, the feds say they're going to forcibly inject us with dozens of vaccines. 0.75

01:26:24.000 So those GIs are less than human, they're not even as good as any pig, just give them a shot. 1.00

01:26:30.000 Absolutely! 1.00

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01:27:20.000 I love America.

01:27:21.000 America's about freedom and liberty and that's all disappearing.

01:27:25.000 They're on the news saying torture's good.

01:27:28.000 They're on the news saying a police state is good.

01:27:31.000 They're on the news and then is it any surprise police will torture you for a traffic citation once they get you to the jail?

01:27:38.000 Is it any surprise they've got military running checkpoints now around the country?

01:27:42.000 Is it any surprise kids are being searched every week at school and having a thumb scan to get food?

01:27:48.000 The new economy, the number one part of the economy, according to Forbes, is prisons now.

01:27:53.000 And prison labor that competes against you.

01:27:57.000 And conservatives haven't thought this out, folks.

01:28:00.000 They say, oh good, make them prisoners work. 0.97

01:28:02.000 They're taking your jobs, people.

01:28:06.000 This is the new America, getting you into the system. 0.85

01:28:10.000 They just say, here, plea bargain.

01:28:11.000 They don't even tell you it's a plea bargain.

01:28:12.000 They say, sign here.

01:28:14.000 Wave your rights!

01:28:15.000 It's happening.

01:28:15.000 We're about to go to Michael Hagan, an economist, and get into more of the calls.

01:28:19.000 I got a bunch of other news I haven't even covered yet.

01:28:21.000 I want to remind the listeners that I produced nine full-length feature documentary films.

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01:28:42.000 You get it out to everyone in your area.

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01:29:52.000 Or just write to me, Alex Jones at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas 78704.

01:30:04.000 Again, that's 888-253-3139, or infowars.com or the mailing address.

01:30:10.000 You want to do something about this?

01:30:12.000 You've got to wake people up to the plan.

01:30:14.000 Not just where they see pieces of what's happening, they need to see the whole thing to understand it.

01:30:20.000 You better stand up and speak out in your area and stand up against this federalization, the multi-jurisdictional task forces, the checkpoints, the FEMA takeover of the media, for the Amber Alert, all of it.

01:30:30.000 You better do it now.

01:30:33.000 Michael Haga is a best-selling author, economist, worked for some of the big Fortune 500 companies.

01:30:38.000 And he joins us now.

01:30:39.000 We appreciate him coming back on the show.

01:30:41.000 We've seen a plunging in the dollar.

01:30:42.000 They're obviously manipulating markets, having it go up and down.

01:30:46.000 The Treasury bad-mouthing the dollar on purpose.

01:30:49.000 We have durable good orders down, sales down, shutdown of factories across the board by design.

01:30:57.000 Michael Hager, why?

01:30:59.000 You've done some incredible forecasting five years ago, what's now happening.

01:31:03.000 What is the New World Order?

01:31:05.000 What is their model?

01:31:06.000 And what is their plan?

01:31:07.000 How are we going to stop them, Michael?

01:31:10.000 Boy, that's a mouthful.

01:31:15.000 Alex, the New World Order is all about power.

01:31:20.000 And you know, when I first started doing radio and writing books, my background has always been the traditional American way.

01:31:31.000 I mean, I went, I was prosecutor for a while, went to Baylor University Law School, working on my MBA at the same time.

01:31:38.000 You know, when I graduated from law school, I thought I was going to do great things.

01:31:44.000 And you were talking, before we get into the economic side of this, about prisons and factories and things when I began as a prosecutor fresh out of law school what you're saying is true in our federal system specifically every prison I shouldn't say every prison but almost all minimum or even the maximum security prisons across the country on the federal side

01:32:16.000 Have these commercial factories attached to them.

01:32:20.000 And private profits by people in the current administration.

01:32:24.000 Yeah, the inmates, they're now called, gosh, what is it?

01:32:30.000 Not guests, anyway, they're not inmates anymore.

01:32:35.000 They work in these factories, and they can be anything from companies making clothing to signs.

01:32:43.000 It used to be license plates, but many, many products.

01:32:46.000 And the residents, that's what they are now, not inmates.

01:32:50.000 The residents are paid up to, I believe it's 20 cents an hour.

01:32:57.000 And that money goes into their commissary fund and they can use their hourly wages to buy things from the commissary.

01:33:06.000 So they make 20 cents an hour to produce products.

01:33:09.000 that are then, and we're paying, we're subsidizing to keep these people in prison.

01:33:13.000 And then just like sharecropping, the same private company that has the contract of the prison sells them the Doritos for $2.

01:33:20.000 Yeah, but then the products that the prisoners make, that the residents make, are sold in the open market for less The same type of products can be anything, jeans, anything that you see on consumer shelves.

01:33:35.000 A lot of stores like Walmart and different things, they buy these products because they can buy them cheaply and sell them and make a good profit.

01:33:44.000 So, the industry makes a good, you know, it's a money maker for, I should say, the federal government.

01:33:52.000 They're subsidized by the federal government, but a lot of them are private industry companies.

01:33:58.000 So they're sweetheart deals.

01:34:00.000 But how does a real private company compete with that?

01:34:03.000 They can't do it.

01:34:04.000 And so they all dive into the private prison market.

01:34:07.000 Yeah.

01:34:08.000 So the fastest growing industry in America today is the prison industry.

01:34:13.000 Scary.

01:34:13.000 Well, Forbes says it's now the biggest as of two years ago.

01:34:16.000 Yeah, it is.

01:34:17.000 Well, it's fastest growing.

01:34:18.000 And it is.

01:34:19.000 It's a huge.

01:34:20.000 And it is an industry.

01:34:22.000 We don't lock up big-time drug dealers.

01:34:25.000 We lock up small-time drug users.

01:34:27.000 Well, I've seen the statistics.

01:34:29.000 They'll release a murderer after four and a half years for some little pothead who was caught with an ounce of marijuana.

01:34:35.000 He gets five years and works the whole time.

01:34:37.000 Sure.

01:34:38.000 I mean, we don't go after the big fish in America.

01:34:42.000 We go after the little fish.

01:34:44.000 And especially the big fish that have money and political connections.

01:34:48.000 They can do anything they want.

01:34:49.000 We have become a land of lawlessness.

01:34:51.000 We're the little guys that are locked up.

01:34:53.000 The predators go after weak people.

01:34:55.000 If you're a talk show host, battling them, they leave you alone. 0.99

01:34:58.000 They go after ignorant people that don't know their rights, Michael. 0.98

01:35:01.000 Yeah, they do. 1.00

01:35:02.000 They do.

01:35:03.000 And it's scary.

01:35:03.000 And our rights are disappearing.

01:35:05.000 And I am honestly... When I first started all this, Alex, I thought people like you were crazy.

01:35:13.000 But you're not.

01:35:15.000 And people like me need to wake up.

01:35:18.000 Because the country, our rights are disappearing.

01:35:22.000 We are being slowly taken over through the financial sector, which really controls Congress, the White House, everything.

01:35:34.000 Everything is based on economics.

01:35:37.000 And that is the key to this, quote, New World Order.

01:35:41.000 And in the New World Order, These prison systems could become a way of life for each and every one of us.

01:35:49.000 And theoretically, they already are.

01:35:50.000 Look, most people are deeply in debt.

01:35:53.000 They don't own their homes.

01:35:54.000 They pay a mortgage to a bank.

01:35:56.000 So they're basically renting, but they think they have a vested interest.

01:36:02.000 They don't own their cars.

01:36:04.000 They're making payments to another lending company.

01:36:07.000 You know, they don't even own their land because the state can come and seize it if you don't pay your taxes.

01:36:13.000 So really, we don't own anything in America anymore.

01:36:17.000 We are working for the, what, the country store?

01:36:21.000 Like in the old days, you worked for a mining company, you went to the... I owe my soul to the company store!

01:36:27.000 Yeah, and we're paying taxes that we really legally don't have to pay, but if you don't pay them, they'll come after you, if you have anything to come after.

01:36:40.000 Your rights, as you said, have been eroded.

01:36:43.000 We have become a police state.

01:36:46.000 And it all comes right back down to the financial structure.

01:36:51.000 And the financial structure is the Federal Reserve.

01:36:55.000 And the Federal Reserve is part of the international banking community.

01:36:59.000 And the most powerful man in America is Alan Greenspan.

01:37:03.000 He controls the President.

01:37:05.000 He controls our lives daily, hourly, The Fed has a license to steal.

01:37:16.000 Well, it's the Viceroy for the big central banks of the world, as you've said.

01:37:20.000 We also need to add here that they've designed a financial system where you cannot pay the debts, but there is a vortex created that is designed to totally consolidate.

01:37:30.000 They don't care about our standard of life, do they?

01:37:32.000 No.

01:37:33.000 Look, we talk about people like Saddam Hussein, who we put in power, by the way. 0.97

01:37:41.000 Uh... raping the country. 0.93

01:37:43.000 Well, go to Washington. 1.00

01:37:45.000 Our leaders are raping the country.

01:37:48.000 They are living like, you know, princes and kings and the rest of us have become indentured servants.

01:37:55.000 And they give themselves immunity from the very things they put on us.

01:38:00.000 Oh yeah.

01:38:01.000 And if people understood, legally, Washington D.C.

01:38:08.000 should have no power outside of Washington, D.C.

01:38:14.000 That's why we have a separation of powers and states' rights.

01:38:17.000 But through this little-known thing called the Interstate Commerce Clause, the federal government owns the one-inch strip of land between each boundary of each state through this thing called the Interstate Commerce Clause.

01:38:34.000 And they've utilized that clause To slowly take over everything from transportation, to banking, to, you know, labor laws, to prisons, to everything.

01:38:49.000 And is it constitutional?

01:38:51.000 Well, there's a huge question of whether that is even constitutional.

01:38:55.000 But we don't understand history.

01:38:59.000 We don't understand the Constitution.

01:39:01.000 We, the people.

01:39:03.000 And so, our leaders who have Basically been corrupted through the financial system.

01:39:14.000 Go along with this.

01:39:16.000 Hey, if somebody came up to you, Alex, and they said, look, anything you want, you can have if you play the game.

01:39:26.000 Well, I've already been told that.

01:39:28.000 Yeah.

01:39:31.000 Most people will say, OK, You know, it's like the story of a guy that comes up to a gal and says, you know, would you go to bed with me for a million dollars?

01:39:42.000 And she thinks a minute and says, yeah.

01:39:46.000 And then he says, how about a dollar?

01:39:48.000 And she says, no, what do you think I am?

01:39:49.000 And he says, we've already decided what you are.

01:39:52.000 You know, we're just negotiating on the price here.

01:39:56.000 And that's what our politicians have done.

01:39:59.000 And I don't fault them because Power, ultimate power corrupts, and it corrupts absolutely.

01:40:09.000 Let me read you a story to talk about this, how they're going to net us all in the system.

01:40:13.000 Okay.

01:40:15.000 This is New York's Hometown Connection Daily News, New York Daily News.

01:40:19.000 Ticket for what?

01:40:20.000 Almost anything, even feeding birds draws a summons.

01:40:24.000 Ella and Sarage Schultman were ticketed for blocking their driveway, their own driveway.

01:40:31.000 Alexander Orts, uh... was ticketed for improperly binding newspapers to be recycled in his front yard uh... this is the black license plate frame that came with your car illegal fifty five dollar fine taking up two seats on a train fifty dollars feeding pigeons in the park fifty dollars used to be that cops wouldn't bother writing a ticket for a minor obscure infractions but with the city hurting for money ordinary citizens suddenly are finding themselves

01:41:00.000 Shelling out hard-earned cash to pay fines for things they didn't even know were against the law.

01:41:06.000 And it goes on to say the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association charges the city has a ticket quota and that there's more pressure than ever to cops to write summons.

01:41:15.000 The city denies the charges.

01:41:17.000 They claim it's for money.

01:41:18.000 Well, we know the states actually have their comprehensive annual financial reports, their double set of books.

01:41:23.000 They have plenty of money for all their checkpoints, the rest of it.

01:41:26.000 They're claiming, oh, we can't fill the potholes, we're going to lay cops off unless you stop everybody.

01:41:30.000 We're going to lay school teachers off unless you follow what we say.

01:41:33.000 It's a pressurization process to get them to follow the orders.

01:41:37.000 But now, here in Austin, this has been on our news.

01:41:40.000 Not wearing a seatbelt, arrested.

01:41:41.000 When you go to the jail, it's been on the news, they say, sign this form, you can't see a lawyer until you do it, 90% of people sign it, and Mr. Hage it says, you agree to all these criminal charges, you agree to classes, you agree to a, uh, to probation, and did you know that in some of the schools now, the public schools, half the kids are on probation for missing a day of class?

01:42:03.000 I mean, sir, it's already happening, it's worse than you may know.

01:42:07.000 Oh, no.

01:42:08.000 I understand everything that's taking place.

01:42:10.000 Well, not everything, but lots of what's taking place.

01:42:12.000 You are a prosecutor, but what is that called where you go to jail for not paying five parking tickets?

01:42:17.000 It's been on the news.

01:42:19.000 And they say, sign this form saying that you're involved in drugs, family violence, all this stuff.

01:42:23.000 Then CPS comes to your house, takes your kids, and says, you signed a form saying you did this.

01:42:28.000 Yeah.

01:42:29.000 Well, it's called nolo contendere.

01:42:31.000 In other words, you're saying, I'm not guilty.

01:42:35.000 You're saying, I don't admit or deny my guilt, but when you sign it, you're really admitting guilt.

01:42:40.000 People don't understand it.

01:42:41.000 Yeah, well, it's not even a no contest now.

01:42:42.000 They've changed that in Austin.

01:42:44.000 Oh, have they really?

01:42:45.000 No, it says, I am guilty, but they're deferring prosecution if I take these classes, and it's got all this fine print, and then they sick the social services on you.

01:42:54.000 Sure.

01:42:55.000 Take your kids, you know, and then your rights are infringed and people don't realize what it does to them down the road.

01:43:02.000 It is scary, Alex, and again, It comes back to the financial structure.

01:43:10.000 We have been sold out in America.

01:43:14.000 And it's hard for me to fathom this.

01:43:16.000 Again, I've always been a traditional American who believed in the system.

01:43:23.000 And as I began researching it, it's just awesome.

01:43:27.000 And I've been fortunate in my life to be in positions where I've met people in power.

01:43:33.000 Including Alan Greenspan and Ben S. Barneke, you know, the Fed, one of the Fed board members here who is an inflation hawk, really.

01:43:45.000 He loves inflation.

01:43:46.000 So does Alan Greenspan.

01:43:48.000 But the bottom line is this.

01:43:51.000 We, we the people, sold our souls to have creature comforts.

01:44:00.000 And now we've become very lazy.

01:44:03.000 And we don't want those comforts to be disturbed.

01:44:07.000 So we turn a blind eye to everything.

01:44:09.000 We say, it doesn't matter, it doesn't affect me.

01:44:13.000 It's kind of like a recession is when your neighbor's unemployed, a depression is when you're unemployed.

01:44:20.000 Well, more and more people now are being thrown into this depression that has been created by the Fed.

01:44:28.000 But since the majority are not faced with this situation yet, They continue to turn a blind eye.

01:44:35.000 We've had psychological warfare against the American people for so long that they've lost, I think they've lost the ability to even reason.

01:44:47.000 And so we've become controlled people.

01:44:52.000 Stay there, Michael Hagan.

01:44:53.000 It's great to have you on.

01:44:53.000 I want to talk about the plunging dollar.

01:44:55.000 I want to get your advice on the economy.

01:44:57.000 Talk about some of your best-selling books as well that forecast all this.

01:44:59.000 It's all coming up.

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01:48:17.000 During the break I was talking to Michael Hager, who was a prosecutor, best-selling author, of course,

01:48:22.000 work with some of the major big corporations out there.

01:48:24.000 [MUSIC PLAYING]

01:48:25.000 Yeah, I saw this from the inside.

01:48:26.000 I was telling him about how, in Austin now, many of the public schools, half the kids, there's a school with like 1,200 kids we looked at, over 500, had criminal charges against them.

01:48:36.000 If you're late to class three times, that counts as an unexcused absence.

01:48:39.000 Criminal charges are filed.

01:48:41.000 I mean, that's hundreds of thousands of dollars right there over the years in just these schools alone.

01:48:46.000 We have this happening.

01:48:48.000 And, uh, I was talking to you, Michael.

01:48:51.000 You were saying, oh, that you were familiar with such things.

01:48:53.000 And you said you knew things that would scare me to death.

01:48:55.000 Can you describe those things to me?

01:48:56.000 Then I want to talk about the dollar and all this other stuff.

01:49:00.000 Well, just that there are... There is so much corruption, Alex, in the legal system that it has become absolutely unbelievable.

01:49:14.000 Predatory.

01:49:15.000 Yeah, it is.

01:49:16.000 If you have money, you're above the law.

01:49:19.000 If you don't have any money, you're going to pay.

01:49:22.000 And the rich can do whatever they want.

01:49:27.000 You know, look at O.J.

01:49:29.000 Simpson, on and on and on.

01:49:32.000 The most outlandish things are acceptable.

01:49:36.000 But if you're a little guy, if you're part of the Joe and Jane or John and Jane six-pack, as the politicians refer to us as, you better watch out.

01:49:47.000 So, there is no justice in America for the average person.

01:49:53.000 There is no security in America for the average person.

01:49:57.000 There will be no retirement plan for the average American working today.

01:50:03.000 There will be no social security.

01:50:06.000 99% of all pension plans are unfunded.

01:50:10.000 And they said they're changing it, quote, on CNN so that you do not own your pension fund.

01:50:15.000 You don't.

01:50:16.000 You have no vested interest in Social Security.

01:50:19.000 They can cancel that tomorrow.

01:50:22.000 You're expected to pay into it, but there's no contract.

01:50:25.000 So it could be canceled tomorrow.

01:50:27.000 They just announced veterans above 65 who are promised lifetime health care aren't getting it.

01:50:31.000 Are not getting it.

01:50:32.000 And isn't it interesting that all these things are being announced while the President is asking our troops to continue going into other countries in harm's way And their spouses left at home are existing on food stamps.

01:50:47.000 And have CPS grabbing their kids.

01:50:49.000 Yeah, and they're being exposed to all of these neurological agents.

01:50:55.000 It is a travesty and a tragedy.

01:50:58.000 But again, it's been mind warfare.

01:51:01.000 But I do have a little bit of hope for the future, Alex.

01:51:05.000 And here's the reason.

01:51:08.000 The Federal Reserve has been in power in this country Since inception back in 1913, they changed the banking system.

01:51:17.000 You have mega wealthy people that control nations that control the world.

01:51:24.000 It's an interlocking structure.

01:51:27.000 The American Fed has its counterparts in other countries.

01:51:32.000 But worldwide right now, you see the Fed, the Fed can only exist through inflation.

01:51:39.000 And over the years, that's why salaries have gone up and the cost of living has gone up.

01:51:44.000 Because the Fed creates the illusion of prosperity.

01:51:48.000 Because eggs and milk stay the same price, but a $15,000 car 8 years ago was $35,000.

01:51:54.000 Right.

01:51:55.000 But the people are pacified because every year they're getting a wage increase.

01:52:00.000 So they don't notice that everything is really outpacing their wage increase.

01:52:04.000 So what's the good news for you in this hour?

01:52:06.000 Well, the good news is this.

01:52:08.000 The Fed is scared to death for the first time since 1913.

01:52:12.000 Well, actually in the 30s it almost killed them too.

01:52:15.000 Well, I've said this.

01:52:16.000 They are pushing so hard right now because they're in trouble.

01:52:21.000 They are in major trouble worldwide and it is a thing called deflation.

01:52:27.000 And it means that the Fed can continue to print money and push credit, but who can afford it?

01:52:37.000 Stay there, Michael Hague.

01:52:38.000 A second hour coming up.

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01:53:37.000 We're talking to a counselor, if you'd call it attorney in the modern system.

01:53:44.000 Best-selling author, prosecutor, economist Michael Hager.

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01:53:56.000 I got a bunch of other news I haven't gotten to yet as well.

01:53:58.000 two three one eight hundred two five nine nine two three one i got a

01:54:02.000 bunch of other news i haven't gotten to yet as well you want to stay with

01:54:07.000 us michael when i found out how evil the globalists were when

01:54:10.000 i saw their own policy reports of how they want to sterilize us and dumb us down

01:54:14.000 they know we're not going to read their policy reports that is but a small

01:54:16.000 fracture of the public I see them setting up a textbook dictatorship, but I do see a massive awakening taking place.

01:54:23.000 And the globalists' own greed, bankrupting all the third world countries, no one can plug into it anymore.

01:54:28.000 They're creating a collapse.

01:54:30.000 But you say that actually endangers them.

01:54:32.000 How does Secretary Snowe bad-mouthing the dollar, how does all this tie in together? 1.00

01:54:38.000 Why are they driving down the dollar right now?

01:54:40.000 Alright.

01:54:42.000 The dollar's been high for a long time.

01:54:45.000 That means that it is harder for people to purchase American-made goods, which there aren't that many anymore, overseas.

01:54:54.000 But it was good because it made Investing by foreigners in America, very attractive.

01:55:02.000 Because then they have dollars, they have dollars and they can buy cheap goods to fill the Walmart shelves, but now they've shut down the factory so we don't have jobs to buy those goods, and now they're even going to kill the dollar so we can't buy those goods.

01:55:14.000 Well, if they kill the dollar, theoretically, And you have to remember, Greenspan and company operate in theoretical, it's double speak and it's so bizarre you wouldn't even understand it.

01:55:28.000 I mean, I've met Alan Greenspan and he's an amazing individual, but by forcing down the value of the dollar, theoretically American-made products become cheaper and so More money will buy American products.

01:55:48.000 Yeah, maybe in 10 years if we redevelop industry, but they're going in the opposite direction.

01:55:52.000 Well, but here's the Achilles heel.

01:55:57.000 China's currency is tied to the dollar.

01:56:00.000 And we have our main balance of payment deficit with China.

01:56:05.000 So, as the dollar falls, so does the Chinese currency.

01:56:10.000 And so it's a no-win situation.

01:56:12.000 The rest of the world theoretically benefits, and theoretically America will ultimately benefit.

01:56:19.000 Am I right in saying that a 25% reduction in the value of the dollars, supposedly creating more buying of American products, isn't real because it's still that 25% doesn't compensate for the slave state in China, the no environmental laws, the no workers' compensation. 0.87

01:56:35.000 Right.

01:56:35.000 It just doesn't work.

01:56:37.000 No, it doesn't work.

01:56:38.000 But they're hoping to force the dollar down in hopes of stimulating short-term the U.S.

01:56:44.000 economy.

01:56:44.000 It doesn't make sense, but that's how it works in macroeconomic theory.

01:56:50.000 So they're forcing it down.

01:56:52.000 But the reason that these guys are finally scared to death, Alex, is central banks creating credit out of nothing.

01:57:03.000 And remember, even our dollar is nothing more than a promise to pay.

01:57:06.000 It's not pegged to anything.

01:57:07.000 It's totally fiat.

01:57:08.000 Yeah, it's a fiat currency.

01:57:10.000 It's worthless.

01:57:11.000 It costs the Fed 2.5 cents to print every bill, whether it be a dollar bill or a thousand dollar bill.

01:57:20.000 So, they're making a killing.

01:57:23.000 But, the credit, there's very little actual currency.

01:57:30.000 Most of it's just credit.

01:57:33.000 Again, we don't own anything.

01:57:34.000 We just borrow to buy things.

01:57:37.000 We pledge tomorrow's labor to get those benefits today.

01:57:43.000 And it was a good system as long as we had inflation because everything kept going up and you could borrow cheaply today and pay it off with cheaper dollars tomorrow.

01:57:55.000 But here's the killer for the Fed, and it's got them scared to death.

01:57:59.000 Yeah, that's the killer. When we get back, Michael Hager, honored to have you.

01:58:03.000 Great economist, folks. Tell you about his books as well.

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02:01:26.000 We're talking about the doublespeak of the private run-for-profit Federal Reserve Central Bank.

02:01:31.000 Why did Treasury Secretary O'Neill badmouth the dollar two years ago?

02:01:35.000 Well, Davos, Switzerland, Economic Forum almost four years ago said that they wanted to empower the euro, make it look good, to get everybody behind that, then say, oh, we've got to have this Pan-American Union to match the euro, when in truth the same people own the stock in the central banks.

02:01:52.000 It is a European monopoly, with the Rockefellers owning some of it.

02:01:56.000 And now they're bad-mouthing the dollar.

02:01:58.000 Treasury Secretary Snowe, the new Treasury Secretary, is bad-mouthing the dollar, saying it needs to go down further.

02:02:03.000 It's now gone to, what, $1.20, and then back down to $1.12 against the dollar from just $0.90 of the dollar.

02:02:09.000 So we're in between $0.15 and $0.30 down, depending on how it fluctuates.

02:02:14.000 They're obviously making products from currency speculation.

02:02:17.000 George Soros is running around enjoying himself.

02:02:20.000 Uh, but, uh, so we're trying to cut through the propaganda and find out what's happening with Michael Haga, economist, prosecutor, lawyer, best-selling author, who, and I really trust his forecasting, read some of his books three or four years ago, and it's all happened, unfortunately, as he said it would.

02:02:33.000 We're really in a depression at many levels right now, but they're just not announcing that to you.

02:02:37.000 The price-earnings ratios are still out of control.

02:02:39.000 The debt is at record levels in every sector.

02:02:42.000 And Michael Hager was telling us why they're in deep trouble right now, or is it part of a greater design to implode things and bring in a crisis of military proportions?

02:02:51.000 Why are they bad-mouthing the dollar?

02:02:53.000 What are they afraid of?

02:02:54.000 Deflation?

02:02:54.000 Tell us about that, Michael Hager.

02:02:59.000 Break that down for us, sir.

02:03:01.000 Chris, we have a guest on, Michael Hager.

02:03:03.000 Okay, first, we're going to see more terrorism in the United States, because they need more diversion.

02:03:11.000 And most of the terrorism has come internally, as I believe you know.

02:03:15.000 It's all part of the plan.

02:03:17.000 By internally, you mean the establishment's carrying it out?

02:03:20.000 Yeah.

02:03:21.000 Yeah, and we're going to see some technology unleashed that's going to scare us all half to death.

02:03:27.000 So, keep that in mind.

02:03:29.000 We're going to see some of the new technology to bring down buildings and different things that is going to be absolutely mind-boggling.

02:03:38.000 But this will all be done by your government, courtesy of your government, to keep your attention diverted from what's really taking place, i.e.

02:03:47.000 the bankrupting of America.

02:03:49.000 Now, we're in a deflationary trend worldwide.

02:03:54.000 This has the central bank scared to death.

02:03:59.000 The only way they can get people to borrow money, and can expand credit, and get them more deeply in debt, is to have inflation.

02:04:06.000 In other words, they convince you to borrow money today, and then as your salary goes up next year, you can repay today's debt with cheaper dollars.

02:04:14.000 And people have done that for years.

02:04:16.000 So slowly, you know, we have inflated our way to prosperity.

02:04:23.000 But there's a downside.

02:04:26.000 Look at it this way.

02:04:27.000 Worldwide, central banks can continue to create prosperity out of fiat currencies and credit, as long as you have an ever-expanding pool of borrowers.

02:04:38.000 Then you create a bankruptcy law that says, okay, if you get maxed out, we'll let you bankrupt out and start over.

02:04:46.000 But we will ingrain in people that bankruptcy is a terrible thing to do from a moral standpoint, so most people will never do it.

02:04:54.000 So, we grew up with this scenario for, what, 50 years.

02:04:58.000 But in the last five years, people began to look at bankruptcy as not being a moral no-no.

02:05:06.000 They said, hey, let's just do it.

02:05:07.000 Everybody else is doing it.

02:05:08.000 Well, that scared the Fed.

02:05:10.000 So the Fed began putting pressure on Congress to tighten up the bankruptcy laws.

02:05:14.000 Let's don't let these people walk away from this.

02:05:17.000 So, right as the world is now deflating, and people are heavily in debt, And the pool of borrowers needed to continue to inflate and create this false prosperity is declining.

02:05:30.000 The Fed's caught in a predicament here.

02:05:34.000 Because if you borrow money today, say you go out and buy a new car, they're saying new cars at 0% financing for five years.

02:05:43.000 But if suddenly we're having deflation, In other words, your salary begins to fall, which it's doing.

02:05:51.000 Look at the airline industry.

02:05:54.000 American Airlines employees were just given a 17% wage and salary cut.

02:06:02.000 In their new contract.

02:06:03.000 It's happening in every industry.

02:06:05.000 This is like getting somebody strung out on heroin and then reducing the size of their drug allotment.

02:06:10.000 They'll go into shock.

02:06:12.000 Yeah, and that's what's happening.

02:06:14.000 How do you repay that debt today that you borrow?

02:06:17.000 Say you borrow $10,000 today, but suddenly your salary is going downhill.

02:06:21.000 Well, even if you're borrowing at a zero interest rate, you're paying 10% or whatever your salary is going down.

02:06:29.000 So you're paying a real interest rate.

02:06:32.000 But as we deflate, the borrowers begin to lose their assets through foreclosures.

02:06:39.000 And it's very interesting, and bankruptcies and all these things, and it is very interesting that the bankruptcy laws are being tightened right at this point in time.

02:06:48.000 That is part of the plan as well.

02:06:50.000 You're not going to be able to walk away from your debts.

02:06:53.000 You're going to become an indentured servant to your lender.

02:06:58.000 And like Argentina, they'll use the national ID card, that's your driver's license, folks, they just didn't tell you, to then put supplemental credits on there.

02:07:06.000 You go to federal retraining, it's federally controlled, but it's a private corporation.

02:07:10.000 I watched Ridge a year and a half ago on TV at a Homeland Security meeting, where they even passed it, saying they're going to have troops in the factories, police, we're going to work for the government, but the profit goes to private corporations.

02:07:22.000 I mean, this is textbook Soviet Union. 0.88

02:07:24.000 It is.

02:07:25.000 And think about it.

02:07:26.000 More people work for the government today, be it state or federal.

02:07:30.000 Then work for the private sector.

02:07:32.000 And so now they'll let you declare bankruptcy, but you'll be an indentured servant to them on a five-year contract, having to work for them on a supplemental job, and they'll own a stake in your house and control it, thus turning everything into public housing.

02:07:44.000 That's right.

02:07:45.000 So you further give up a lot of your rights, Alex.

02:07:48.000 And it's here, we just don't realize.

02:07:51.000 So they couldn't get us on welfare, get us into the criminal justice system, they'll now just bankrupt us and get us into the debtors' prison.

02:07:59.000 Well, they're going to come out with a new economic system.

02:08:03.000 And it's going to be amazing to watch the implementation of this.

02:08:05.000 Now, we're going to get the new currency this next year again.

02:08:09.000 Remember, we just got the new currency.

02:08:10.000 Trading us for changes.

02:08:12.000 The Federal Reserve Policy Report said they'll be able to devalue it off the RFID chips that are in the money.

02:08:17.000 Yeah.

02:08:18.000 And it'll be totally traceable and trackable.

02:08:21.000 In other words, if you've got a little lucrative business running off the side somewhere in cash, Forget it.

02:08:28.000 Not going to happen anymore.

02:08:29.000 They're going to know everything you do.

02:08:31.000 So, the new currency is just like having a debit card.

02:08:38.000 There will be no privacy.

02:08:41.000 So, people laugh.

02:08:42.000 They say, that'll never happen.

02:08:44.000 Well, it's already here.

02:08:46.000 And we better wake up and smell the roses here, because We're in the ninth inning of this game.

02:08:54.000 Now, whether it goes into overtime, I don't know.

02:08:56.000 None of us know.

02:08:58.000 But we have a bankrupted nation.

02:09:00.000 We have a morally bankrupted people.

02:09:03.000 We have police being trained that torture's good, wearing black ski masks and skull patches.

02:09:08.000 Well, and we have even armed forces now that At this Desert Palm testing thing, they ask a question.

02:09:19.000 Will you fire on American citizens if you've done confiscation?

02:09:22.000 And they will.

02:09:23.000 Oh, I have video of them doing it in Police Day 2000.

02:09:25.000 Let me read you an article.

02:09:26.000 Okay.

02:09:27.000 It's by Jim Wolf.

02:09:28.000 It's a Reuters story.

02:09:29.000 Pentagon seeks to sort and store lifetime experiences.

02:09:33.000 This is LifeLog, part of Total Information Awareness Network, today.

02:09:37.000 The Pentagon is shopping for ways to capture everything a person sees, says, and hears as part of a project it says is meant to help create smarter robots.

02:09:45.000 Now wait, they admit the DARPA plan is to track and trace us, but oh, now it's about another program because they got in trouble over it.

02:09:52.000 The projected system called LifeLog would suck in all of a subject's experiences from phone numbers, dialed, emails viewed, every breath taken, step up, and place gone.

02:10:03.000 And it says, the idea to index the material and make patterns easily retrievable in order to make machines think more like people.

02:10:08.000 Now wait, a month ago they said that the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, or DARPA, the Pentagon's total information awareness, was about watching us for police state.

02:10:17.000 Now it's, oh it's, we couldn't get the funding so it's a robot program.

02:10:21.000 And it says the Pentagon's cradle of revolutionary technologies is sponsoring a competition to bring out proposals for setting up such a system.

02:10:28.000 DARPA announces this.

02:10:29.000 I got the article five years ago where they put microphones up in Austin, hundreds of them, and DARPA did it.

02:10:37.000 The face scanning cameras are DARPA, the ID cards are controlled, and the standards are issued by DARPA.

02:10:42.000 The thumb scanners are going in the grocery stores, in the schools.

02:10:45.000 This is it, right here.

02:10:46.000 Yeah, it is.

02:10:47.000 And it's fascinating, but it's also frightening.

02:10:52.000 And what's frightening to me is that the American people still seem to be pretty much in the dark.

02:10:58.000 Well, when you said they're going to watch everything we do, I mean, there it is right there.

02:11:00.000 Let's take some calls.

02:11:02.000 John, Louisiana, you're on the air with Michael Hager.

02:11:04.000 Go ahead.

02:11:05.000 Yes, good afternoon, Alex and Mike.

02:11:07.000 It's a great pleasure to hear you again, Mike.

02:11:09.000 Mike, I think a few of us understand that the government, the federal budget, only includes 80% of the total spending.

02:11:15.000 That 20% of the money being spent is done on a black budget for the CIA and other things.

02:11:22.000 Now, we also know that the Washington Times is the only major newspaper in the country that's supporting the Bushy regime.

02:11:29.000 That and their magazine Insight.

02:11:31.000 Well, that's a staged deal.

02:11:32.000 Let me add something, Hager.

02:11:33.000 What about the $1 trillion missing in the last 8 years from the Pentagon they just calmly announced?

02:11:38.000 Yeah, I mean, it's amazing.

02:11:41.000 And actually, John, it's like 35% of the real spending is off budget.

02:11:46.000 Now, listen to this.

02:11:48.000 Sun Mooney, who owns The Washington Times, is subsidizing most of the televangelist celebrities.

02:11:58.000 Now, he's doing this in various ways.

02:12:01.000 Now, is it possible that the CIA is funneling huge amounts of money into Mooney because Mooney is losing money on every one of his businesses that he runs?

02:12:11.000 How does that grab you?

02:12:12.000 It wouldn't surprise me, and look at it this way too, John. 0.99

02:12:17.000 Again, our preachers are corrupt. 0.95

02:12:19.000 They don't realize it. 0.70

02:12:21.000 Most churches are 501c3 non-profit organizations.

02:12:26.000 They're licensed by the state, not by God.

02:12:30.000 If you make contributions to your church, Those are reported if the church is a non-profit to the IRS, who then compares those totals against your tax return.

02:12:42.000 But yet, the government knows everything you give to your church if you're attending a non-profit church.

02:12:48.000 And yet, we can't have a copy of the Ten Commandments in a courthouse.

02:12:52.000 Because there's supposed to be separation of church and state.

02:12:56.000 The CIA is subsidizing the Christian conservative movement.

02:12:59.000 Well, I don't know about Mooney, but I do know that there's a film out about the preachers.

02:13:05.000 A lot of them are government operatives.

02:13:06.000 Thanks for the call.

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02:17:30.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Steve in Ohio.

02:17:32.000 You're on the air with our guest, Michael Hager.

02:17:33.000 Go ahead, Steve.

02:17:34.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

02:17:35.000 Good afternoon, Mr. Hager.

02:17:37.000 Mr. Hager, I first started listening to you back around 1992, 1993 on the American Freedom Network.

02:17:44.000 Uh-huh.

02:17:45.000 And I listened to you religiously back then.

02:17:46.000 I was working in a bank myself, handling the mutual funds and annuities and other insurance products for the bank.

02:17:53.000 Yeah, I took your advice.

02:17:55.000 I got out of the market when the Dow Jones was setting at 3300, and I bought $410-$15 gold, and I'm still waiting for my gold to come back, and the market's been to 11.6 and back and forth.

02:18:06.000 I bought a few of your books, and I put them up on my bookcase.

02:18:10.000 They're right beside my copies of The Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey.

02:18:15.000 You said in that book that you were a little bit premature.

02:18:18.000 I guess you were about seven or eight years on the peak of the market.

02:18:23.000 What I'm hearing you say today, Mr. Haggett, with all due respect, is anybody that reads Alex Jones's InfoWars.net or InfoWars.com and stays impressed with the current mainstream publications and stuff.

02:18:37.000 I'm not hearing anything new out of you, Mr. Haggett.

02:18:39.000 I'm still waiting for the $3,000 to $5,000 gold.

02:18:41.000 Well, have you been watching gold?

02:18:46.000 Yeah, I've been watching it.

02:18:47.000 I've been watching it for the last nine years, you know.

02:18:49.000 Well, I haven't recommended it that far back.

02:18:52.000 Oh, yeah, you were on American Freedom.

02:18:53.000 Now, I've listened to you religiously back then and would call into your talk shows.

02:18:57.000 Well, didn't they start in 1995?

02:18:58.000 What, the...

02:19:02.000 Me?

02:19:03.000 Yeah, I wasn't even back on the air back then.

02:19:06.000 Oh yeah, you were.

02:19:06.000 American Freedom Administration, I guess.

02:19:08.000 Well, sir, I believe that organization started in 95.

02:19:10.000 I'm not saying you're... Well, they changed their name in 95.

02:19:12.000 They used to be something else.

02:19:14.000 I forget what it was.

02:19:15.000 Okay, well let me just tell you something.

02:19:17.000 Uh, we, the Davos Switzerland people said they were going to plunge the dollar almost four years ago.

02:19:22.000 Right, I understand.

02:19:24.000 Well, I've been saying... I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying, Mr. Jones.

02:19:27.000 You've been right on the money for some time now.

02:19:29.000 Okay, well, well... I'm just saying Mr. Hague is just a parrot.

02:19:32.000 He's, he's, he's... Well, okay, well let me say this, okay, because he's our guest and you can say you disagree with him and please no name-calling.

02:19:39.000 Let me just, because I'm not going to censor you, let me say this right now.

02:19:42.000 The PE ratios in the mid-90s were, what, 30 to 1?

02:19:48.000 They hit 40 to 50 to 1, 60 to 1 on some of the stocks.

02:19:52.000 Now, that was insane there.

02:19:53.000 The bubble did get a lot bigger than most people thought it could, and then it did plunge.

02:19:57.000 The advice I got from Hager three or four years ago, with the few stocks I had, was get out then, when it was at 11,000, and I made a little bit of profit, because I didn't own very many stocks.

02:20:06.000 He was saying, get out back.

02:20:07.000 All I know is I did good Oh, sure.

02:20:12.000 his advice. Now certainly nobody's got a crystal ball, but what I'm telling you is, is that

02:20:17.000 when we sit here and we look at this, the market is a fraud, was a fraud, is still a fraud.

02:20:23.000 Now it's like trying to guess on what the roulette wheel's going to do, but Mr. Hagan,

02:20:29.000 would you like to respond to what he just said? Oh sure.

02:20:31.000 You know, we have been premature, and nobody expected the Dow to crest at 11, 7, 12.

02:20:38.000 Well, you said that a month ago when you were on without him calling in.

02:20:42.000 Yeah, and I kept saying when I was on the radio that it was time to begin unloading stocks, but we were still in some stocks.

02:20:52.000 And we did very well.

02:20:53.000 Four years ago is when I told people, get out of this market completely.

02:20:58.000 That's when you wrote the crash book.

02:20:59.000 Yeah, and we did, and we made money, and guess what?

02:21:04.000 The Dow dropped back down to, what, 72.86?

02:21:07.000 Now, there's been a modest rebound, but we're three years into a great bust, and people are still believing in the promise of a boom.

02:21:17.000 What is the average 401k down by, like, 60%?

02:21:19.000 Some are down by 90%?

02:21:20.000 Some are down, yeah, 90.

02:21:20.000 Some have gone completely under.

02:21:27.000 So, you can sit there and believe in all of this, or you can prepare.

02:21:32.000 Alright, let Steve respond to that, or John, excuse me.

02:21:37.000 Go ahead, John.

02:21:39.000 I'm still Steve.

02:21:41.000 I agree, I've been prepared for some time now, and continue to prepare.

02:21:46.000 We've got a lot to prepare for.

02:21:48.000 Well, you hear Mr. Hage, he's not even recommending stocks or anything.

02:21:51.000 Well no, he hasn't been for some time.

02:21:53.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:21:55.000 Today he's correct.

02:21:58.000 Would you rather Lou Dobbs five years ago tell you how great Enron is?

02:22:02.000 No.

02:22:05.000 Well, you know that he may not have foreseen also the Federal Reserve, and they've been sued over this, artificially depressing the price of gold by making large sales amongst their own banks at incredibly reduced prices.

02:22:15.000 See, I mean... I'm not impugning your information, Alex.

02:22:18.000 Don't misunderstand what I'm saying.

02:22:20.000 No, you can if you want.

02:22:21.000 I'm just saying... Mr. Hage, any comments to the gold situation?

02:22:26.000 Well, I'll clear off and wait for somebody else.

02:22:28.000 Thank you, Steve.

02:22:30.000 Gold is telling us That the Fed is trying desperately to inflate.

02:22:37.000 But it is telling us that deflation is coming.

02:22:41.000 And that means that these currencies will collapse.

02:22:46.000 Well, I mean, look at the Euro.

02:22:47.000 Partially gold back.

02:22:48.000 Look at the DNR.

02:22:49.000 Yeah, anything with gold in it is going up.

02:22:52.000 And gold is telling us what's coming.

02:22:54.000 All right.

02:22:55.000 Mr. Haga, I know you're supposed to go now, but stay with us another five minutes, because I want to go to John in New York.

02:22:59.000 All right.

02:22:59.000 A few others.

02:23:00.000 He can respond also to what Steve was saying.

02:23:02.000 We'll be right back.

02:23:03.000 Thanks for being with us.

02:23:06.000 We're on the march.

02:23:07.000 The empire's on the run.

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02:23:55.000 I'm just going to keep Michael Hague on for another 5 minutes or so to talk to John in New York.

02:23:59.000 Then I'll take some of the other calls and get into some of the other news I haven't covered yet.

02:24:02.000 Stay with us.

02:24:03.000 But Mr. Hague, Any other comments about these markets and the insanity, and also more about your meeting you had with Greenspan, because we said we were going to talk about that, and then how do folks get your books, what books would you recommend?

02:24:18.000 Well, let me just say one other thing to Steve here, too.

02:24:22.000 The first book that I wrote, the title is On the Brink, How to Survive the Coming Great Depression, developing between 1993 and the year 2000.

02:24:34.000 And 2000 was the peak in the stock market.

02:24:38.000 And we did recommend getting rid of some stocks, maybe too early.

02:24:43.000 But I think we've been right on track.

02:24:45.000 So maybe, you know, maybe Steve wants to go back through and read those books again.

02:24:50.000 A lot of people Richard Lamb, former governor of Colorado is good friend of mine wrote, you know, prologue in the book, I've had a lot of people that are also very prominent that did not think we would be able

02:25:07.000 to inflate to these levels.

02:25:09.000 And so yeah, we were premature in a few areas, but I feel like we've been pretty, pretty right

02:25:16.000 on down the line. Pretty correct. So anyway, now what was your question again, Alex?

02:25:21.000 Well, I was just saying, you also, again, have talked to Greenspan and you've talked to these

02:25:30.000 I wanted to hear more about that.

02:25:31.000 This was interesting.

02:25:34.000 On the 13th and 14th of May, I was fortunate to be in Washington, D.C.

02:25:41.000 I went to the National Economist Club in Washington, and Alan Greenspan was there.

02:25:47.000 He gave a talk on the economy.

02:25:51.000 And it was very interesting, and I got to talk to him after this meeting.

02:25:56.000 And he stated, gosh, clear back in November 20, let's see, the last meeting was, the prior meeting was November 21, 2002.

02:26:04.000 And he said at that meeting, with inflation rates now quite low in the United States, some have expressed concern that we may soon face a new problem, the danger of deflation or falling prices.

02:26:20.000 This concern is not purely hypothetical.

02:26:23.000 It's brought home to us whenever we read newspaper reports about Japan, where what seems to be a relatively moderate deflation, a decline in consumer prices about 1% a year, has been associated with years of painfully slow growth, rising joblessness, apparently intractable financial problems in the banking and corporate sectors, and it goes on and on.

02:26:48.000 He does.

02:26:49.000 Now, that was on November 21.

02:26:51.000 At that previous meeting, he said, could it happen in America?

02:26:57.000 It is possible, but not probable.

02:27:03.000 Now, at the May 13 and 14 meeting at the National Economist Club, Greenspan said, it is not only probable, it is very possible.

02:27:19.000 That we are going to have deflation in America.

02:27:23.000 Well, he was on the news saying that, too.

02:27:25.000 Well, I asked him later, what do you actually believe is going to happen here?

02:27:32.000 And he said, we are very concerned about deflation.

02:27:36.000 We, you know, can the central bank lose control?

02:27:40.000 Could we go into a very severe period of contracting falling prices?

02:27:47.000 Well, how then?

02:27:48.000 It's already happening in real estate.

02:27:50.000 Yeah.

02:27:51.000 I mean, Austin's the hottest real estate market in the country, they say, per capita, and the prices are plunging here.

02:27:57.000 Yeah, and they are here as well.

02:28:00.000 So, the man is very concerned, and I said, do you think deflation really is going to envelop America?

02:28:06.000 And he said, yes.

02:28:07.000 Alright, let's take a call.

02:28:08.000 Let's talk to John in New York.

02:28:10.000 John, last caller from Michael Hager.

02:28:11.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:28:12.000 Yeah, Mr. Jones.

02:28:15.000 Protecting Mr. Hager, as you did from the last caller, was noble of you, but we read his book.

02:28:22.000 I'm calling you from the Economics Department at Syracuse University, up here in Syracuse, New York.

02:28:27.000 Some of my students have read Mr. Hager's book had used it as a reference.

02:28:32.000 Mr. Hager needs to go back to read his book, Mr. Jones.

02:28:36.000 Here's the point you're missing.

02:28:38.000 Here's the point he's missing.

02:28:40.000 The lawsuit that's going on in New Orleans right now, Mr. Hager, about gold and intrinsic value, and the manipulation of the gold market, which you touched on many times in the past, because I've listened to you speak also.

02:28:55.000 Here's the thing, that all this gold that Greenspan needs, and desperately wants, because at one time Greenspan wanted to back the money with gold.

02:29:06.000 Yeah, I've got an essay you wrote in 1968.

02:29:09.000 Right, it backed away from his own ideas.

02:29:12.000 These ideas are going to come to the forefront again, because instead of deflation, if you look at it real, real close, the economy is retracting Because at the same time, transportation, Mr. Hager, is civilization.

02:29:28.000 Roger Kipling said that, by the way.

02:29:30.000 And transportation is forcing the economy to retract.

02:29:36.000 Because the price of fuel is driving everything in a different direction than it was before.

02:29:41.000 Well, what you're saying is that we have massive inflation on key items, and we said that on the cars, on the fuel, Let me give you an example, Mr. Jones.

02:29:51.000 Mr. Jones, let me give you a great example.

02:29:53.000 40 octane diesel, right now, 40 octane diesel, in New York, is as much as 94 octane low-lead gasoline.

02:30:05.000 That's a paradigm shift in the economy.

02:30:08.000 I've had students bring that to my attention, that we are suffering a paradigm shift in economics where the first time the trucking industry is having to pay as much for diesel as the guy who drives the hot rod who burns 94 octane gas.

02:30:23.000 And the heating oil.

02:30:25.000 Explain that to me! 0.99

02:30:26.000 Well, yeah, it's stupid because it's cheaper to produce diesel. 0.99

02:30:31.000 Mr. Haig, any comments? 0.98

02:30:32.000 Well, the paradigm shift is going to come in the future.

02:30:35.000 You know, we're in this war for oil.

02:30:43.000 But the paradigm shift in the future is going to be a new vehicle of fueling.

02:30:51.000 We're getting away from the oil-driven economies in the coming future to a whole different type of fuel, which even Bush has talked about, the fuel cells.

02:31:02.000 Do you speculate, Mr. Hager, what it's going to be?

02:31:04.000 Do you think we're going to go to methane, hydrogen, or are we going to go to plutonium?

02:31:08.000 You know, I don't know.

02:31:09.000 That's the key.

02:31:12.000 Uh, but that will be the paradigm shift.

02:31:15.000 I can't tell you which way we're going to shift there.

02:31:18.000 Why is distilled gasoline at 94 octane cost as much as non-distilled diesel fuel at 40 octane?

02:31:25.000 Well, sir, it's a scam they're running.

02:31:27.000 Sure it is.

02:31:28.000 Everything is a scam to you, Mr. Jones.

02:31:31.000 Something's got to be legit.

02:31:32.000 The boys that are calling the shots have got to tell us what's going on.

02:31:35.000 Hey, wait a minute.

02:31:36.000 Hold on.

02:31:36.000 You need to settle down a little bit, number one, sir.

02:31:38.000 You need to settle down just a little bit and let me talk.

02:31:41.000 Now, look.

02:31:43.000 Exxon and Mobil, Exxon Mobil, BP, Dutch Rochelle, they're all posting record profits.

02:31:50.000 Their own Project for an American Century written by Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz says the invasion of Iraq is to grab oil and to have a military base to invade Syria and Iran.

02:32:01.000 So I go with what they say.

02:32:02.000 You say everything's a scam they say the president slash his cabinet

02:32:09.000 says in nineteen ninety nine in published reports

02:32:13.000 at project for america century dot org that is about oil

02:32:17.000 that's about grabbing those reserves and it's about controlling those reserves

02:32:20.000 so they can jack up prices so they can hold back iraq reserves

02:32:25.000 use that until saudi arabia you play ball with us are we shut you down 0.99

02:32:30.000 so that i think you always been fighting well that's what we said when we first

02:32:35.000 Okay, they claim there isn't inflation, but on key issues, like automobiles and fuel, it's going up.

02:32:42.000 But then at the same time, they're going to de-inflate many sectors of the economy where you cannot physically then have the money to go and buy those more expensive items or pay yourself out of the debt by the increase in your pay each year.

02:32:55.000 So they're manipulating things.

02:32:57.000 They're squeezing you.

02:32:58.000 They're having more fines, more fees, more checkpoints, more arrests.

02:33:02.000 At a hundred levels, they're turning up the heat while removing the capacity to pay.

02:33:06.000 Can't you understand?

02:33:07.000 Hold on, hold on.

02:33:08.000 Can't you understand that they increase the price of essentials, okay, while decreasing the overall worth of the currency and what's your pay?

02:33:16.000 Take Argentina, okay?

02:33:18.000 They blow out the economy, grab people's bank accounts, and then triple the price of water and heating oil overnight to cause pressure.

02:33:26.000 They call it the IMF riot.

02:33:27.000 I've had Greg Powles on.

02:33:29.000 They engineer riots and looting.

02:33:31.000 Then there's a police state crackdown, then they put in one of their client governments.

02:33:35.000 Michael Hagan, am I accurate on this?

02:33:37.000 I believe you're very accurate, Alex.

02:33:39.000 And the paradigm shift in the future, right now, there is a battle taking place.

02:33:46.000 The central banks can only have control through inflation.

02:33:49.000 And inflation is good for the oil industry and everything else because they're taking more of your disposable dollars.

02:33:57.000 But the battle is between the inflationists, the credit markets, those in control of the financial markets, and the people who are running out of the ability to be able to borrow at any price.

02:34:16.000 Sounds like a right-wing attack dog.

02:34:18.000 Anything else you want to add, Johnny?

02:34:19.000 What are you getting at?

02:34:20.000 You say Mr. Haggis should read his own book, and then you come out and agree with us that they're doing it, and then you say it's not a scam.

02:34:26.000 What do you think, John?

02:34:28.000 Well, I don't think it's a scam for one reason.

02:34:30.000 Oh, okay.

02:34:30.000 And you better hear me out on this one.

02:34:33.000 It's not a scam because if anybody was to talk about supply and demand, and whoever's dog that is, please be quiet.

02:34:41.000 Is that supply and demand at these moments if you go to the Wall Street Journal and read the supply of oil that's available it's at record levels yet the fuel that's being distilled at the refinery level Once it gets there, it's being manipulated.

02:35:02.000 Is that a scam, Mr. Jones?

02:35:03.000 I'm gonna stop you John. Is that a scam Mr. Jones? Hold on!

02:35:07.000 This is insane what I just heard.

02:35:10.000 You just said they're manipulating

02:35:13.000 uh... they're at record production levels they just opened back up the Iraqi oil

02:35:17.000 and then you say the prices are more but it's not a scam?

02:35:21.000 Of course it isn't.

02:35:23.000 Oh, it's not a scam for profit and they have more oil?

02:35:26.000 If all Americans believe that these guys are always running a scam, then there's no consensus, Mr. Jones.

02:35:34.000 That means that they do whatever they feel like.

02:35:37.000 John, come on.

02:35:40.000 Splash some water on your face.

02:35:41.000 Thanks for the call.

02:35:43.000 Michael Hager, that was nuts what I just heard.

02:35:45.000 He said... Look, look.

02:35:49.000 People are... and part of the paradigm shift here, Alex, is this.

02:35:53.000 And this is one of the things that I went through, and I'll say this to both Steve and John, when you grow up and you attend traditional universities and you get all these degrees and you go to work for these corporations, and we helped build Columbia HCA, which is now HCA, the world's largest health care organization.

02:36:11.000 I believed in these things, but the people at the top, which is what I managed to rise to, become, I guess, insulated from The people that provide the means to build everything.

02:36:28.000 In their ivory towers, they can't see what it's doing to the villagers.

02:36:30.000 No, and so you're sitting there figuring out ways to line your own pockets.

02:36:35.000 But Michael, how could he say there's more oil, which is true, and it gets to the refineries and we pay record amounts, and then say that's not a scam when they're posting record profits?

02:36:48.000 I mean, I don't understand what he just said.

02:36:50.000 Well, he totally contradicted himself.

02:36:52.000 Because it is a scam when you're taking more of the disposable income of the people.

02:36:59.000 And you have a bigger supply and it costs more.

02:37:03.000 Yeah.

02:37:03.000 A bigger supply means price goes down.

02:37:06.000 Why are they teaching at this guy's school if he doesn't understand that?

02:37:09.000 Well, look, economists today are econometricians.

02:37:15.000 They plug everything in computer-generated models.

02:37:19.000 They're more attuned to a statistician or a math major, because nobody understands history.

02:37:27.000 So, they leave out the historical equation, and the politics, and the people... But I mean, I told him, Michael, I said, we have the White House, constituted a cabinet, during the election, before that, in 96, they funded the Project for an American Century, they wrote policy reports, 1999-2000, saying it was about oil, Saying it was about a military economy, and then he calls and he says, oh, we won't have any consensus if you say that.

02:37:53.000 I didn't say it!

02:37:53.000 The President did!

02:37:55.000 Yeah.

02:37:56.000 So... What do you say to these people?

02:38:00.000 I don't know, Alex.

02:38:01.000 It's like Jeffrey Dahmer admitting he has the bodies in the refrigerator, and they go, oh no, we don't want to say he did this.

02:38:06.000 Yeah.

02:38:07.000 Yeah.

02:38:08.000 Alright, how do folks get your book?

02:38:10.000 What books would you recommend?

02:38:12.000 Well, they can read After the Crash, How to Survive the Coming Great Depression, I believe you can get it online now.

02:38:19.000 The small publisher was bought out.

02:38:21.000 I've got some new books coming out from a major publishing house in New York, and they took over all the rights.

02:38:27.000 So they're going to be bringing these things back out.

02:38:30.000 So I don't know what, just go online or your bookstores and see.

02:38:34.000 It depends on what the publishers do, I suppose.

02:38:39.000 But Alex, the bottom line is this.

02:38:43.000 I'm not here to sell books.

02:38:45.000 I could care less.

02:38:48.000 You know, I've got a good life.

02:38:50.000 But the American people had better wake up.

02:38:54.000 And it is scary.

02:38:56.000 And when I first started talking about these issues, it was the result of years of learning and observing and going back and studying history.

02:39:07.000 And it was a shock. 0.95

02:39:09.000 And when I first heard people like yourself, I thought, these people are crazy.

02:39:14.000 But Any radical idea or any idea that is contrary to what we've been taught is radical. 0.99

02:39:23.000 Yeah, we shouldn't have black people as slaves. 0.89

02:39:25.000 That was radical in 1800. 0.97

02:39:26.000 Yeah.

02:39:27.000 The world is round.

02:39:28.000 That was radical in 1620.

02:39:30.000 And the fact that we're talking about America ending as we know it is radical.

02:39:38.000 But right before our eyes, it's unfolding.

02:39:41.000 You read their policy reports, they say they're going to do it, Michael.

02:39:43.000 Yeah, they are.

02:39:45.000 And they're doing it every day, and they're doing it through our schools, and through our churches, and through our financial organizations, and even through health care.

02:39:53.000 Well, Michael, I've had you on about five, six times over the years, a few times the last few months.

02:39:56.000 I've never heard callers like this, and it was... The last guy was totally incoherent, and it sounded like frustration and anger just at the system itself spilling over in hysteria is what it sounded like to me.

02:40:09.000 Well, it doesn't bother me.

02:40:11.000 You know, you can... Well, no, it scares me for them.

02:40:13.000 I don't understand.

02:40:14.000 That was La La Land when I was just hearing.

02:40:16.000 Yeah.

02:40:17.000 And this guy says he is a professor.

02:40:21.000 Well, good luck to the students.

02:40:25.000 I don't know what sort of... He doesn't know why there's more oil, but it costs more.

02:40:30.000 Yeah.

02:40:31.000 But then he says, you know, it's not a scam as they post record profits and say it's about record profits.

02:40:37.000 And we have confessions, we have the market, we have the facts, and then he says, uh, I don't know anymore, Michael.

02:40:42.000 But you're wrong.

02:40:43.000 He says you're wrong.

02:40:44.000 So, uh, look.

02:40:47.000 The markets are telling us what's coming, Alex.

02:40:50.000 And people, you know, four years ago I told people, get out of these markets.

02:40:54.000 Not ten years ago.

02:40:56.000 And everybody laughed.

02:40:58.000 But today, their 401Ks are down anywhere from 40 to 90, 99, even some are gone completely.

02:41:06.000 The market's rebounded.

02:41:08.000 It's a slight rebound in a bear market.

02:41:11.000 We are entering into something... Well, if you look at the graph, it's going straight down over the last three years.

02:41:16.000 Yeah.

02:41:16.000 Well, and the smart money is moving into gold.

02:41:21.000 I've never really been a gold bug.

02:41:23.000 I believe in gold, but I'm not a fanatic about it.

02:41:26.000 All right.

02:41:26.000 Michael Hager, thank you so much for coming on.

02:41:27.000 Next time you're on, I won't keep you on an hour and a half.

02:41:30.000 All right.

02:41:30.000 I really appreciate you coming on.

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02:48:18.000 Continuing, it's now come out that there were fake reports put out by both governments in England and the U.S., officials Explodes key weapons of mass destruction claim.

02:48:28.000 Downing Street dockered a dossier on Iraq's weapons program to make it sexier according to senior British official who claims intelligence services were unhappy with the assertion that Saddam's weapons of mass destruction were ready for use within 45 minutes.

02:48:40.000 It goes on and on.

02:48:41.000 The Iraq weapons dossier that was released by the Iraqis, 8,000 pages were taken out.

02:48:45.000 More info on that being fake.

02:48:48.000 There's an article here about Ari Fleischer's press conference.

02:48:51.000 He just did another one.

02:48:53.000 Wow.

02:48:53.000 He's just going to drop it.

02:48:55.000 They said, "Are you going to go after Bush for not, you know, why won't Bush go after

02:48:59.000 Clinton for pardon, Gage?"

02:49:01.000 And he says, "The President is looking forwards, not backwards, and I would highly recommend

02:49:05.000 that you do that as well." 0.67

02:49:08.000 Wow.

02:49:09.000 He's just going to drop it.

02:49:12.000 It's just dropped right.

02:49:13.000 If you're asking traditional questions, you know the appropriate people to ask.

02:49:17.000 So, they're not going to go after Clinton for pardoning cocaine dealers and money launderers.

02:49:21.000 That's your conservatism.

02:49:22.000 See you back tonight, 9 to midnight, back tomorrow.

02:49:26.000 Ted Pike's monumental new video, Why the Mideast Bleeds, exposes the two main causes of international Arab terrorism. 1.00

02:49:33.000 First, a century of Zionist abuses and atrocity against Palestinians.

Alex Jones Show - May 29, 2003

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