Alex Jones Live from Austin Texas on the 26th of August, 2003. Hosted by Alex Jones and Colonel Craig Roberts. Topics covered include: Japan upgrades their biometric ID database, Hawaii wants to force other kids into their cultural schools, the U.S. is building a prison camp for terror suspects, and more!
00:00:52.000Welcome back to another live edition of the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:55.000It's already Tuesday, the 26th of August, 2003.
00:00:58.000We're going to be live for the next three hours.
00:01:02.000We have Colonel Craig Roberts coming on to talk about the latest events in the world, the bombings, the economy, the oil prices, Terrorism, big terrorism on the horizon, and a bunch of other key issues.
00:01:41.000All over the world, they're moving to a centralized, biometrically accessed ID card.
00:01:47.000It admittedly is being called a world ID card, but the general public has no idea of its existence as it's being implemented.
00:01:59.000It's the same thing with the satellite tracking and taxation of cell phones and cards.
00:02:04.000The first you'll know of it is when they announce it's the law.
00:02:09.000As they've been laying the infrastructure for years.
00:02:11.000And of course, when they announce it to you, which they've done now in Germany, England, Canada, and parts of the U.S., it will be for some emergency that just appeared, and then no one will put two and two together that it was set up six, seven, eight years ago.
00:02:54.000They want to force other kids into the Hawaiian cultural schools by the aboriginal tribes that are left.
00:03:04.000They're saying it's racist that the Hawaiians want to keep their culture.
00:03:08.000See, the New World Order is about destroying everybody's culture.
00:03:14.000And replacing it with an MTV, Nike, Tennessee Pepsi commercial of enslavement and death and SWAT teams blowing your guts all over the wall.
00:03:33.000They're pouring concrete, putting in execution centers.
00:03:36.000And they say that the camp will exist and expand, quote, it should exist as long as the global war on terrorism is ongoing, if it helps our nation and our allies win, said Camp Commander Major General Jeffrey Miller.
00:03:51.000We are exceptionally good at developing intelligence that will help defeat the scourge of terrorism.
00:03:56.000Of course, the former head of the camp, General Rick Buck, has resigned, refusing to torture the teenagers there who have nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or the CIA.
00:04:05.000A lot of news on protests from Cleveland to Salt Lake City to Boise yesterday.
00:04:13.000Photos of it are being posted on InfoWars.com.
00:04:17.000We'll tell you about some of what some of the signs said.
00:04:21.000And trying to pull left-right paradigm on us, they have Janet Reno come out and criticize Ashcroft.
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00:08:34.000We're now 8 minutes and 30 seconds into this first hour of the Worldwide Tuesday Broadcast.
00:08:43.000toll-free number to join us on air is 800-259-9231.
00:08:56.000And we're going to be taking your calls early in this hour on any of the news items that we're about to bring up,
00:09:03.000or any news story that you would like to discuss.
00:09:08.000Now, I'm sure all of you saw the news last night.
00:09:13.000I only watched a few minutes of television and did see that they were promoting that Ashcroft is out saying, pass my new Patriot Act, pass my Victory Act.
00:09:27.000If you don't do this, terrorists are going to get you.
00:09:29.000You've got to pass this legislation to protect liberty now.
00:09:34.000It's not give up liberty for security, which Ashcroft has said about 150 times, along with every other bureaucrat in Homeland Security and the Justice Department.
00:09:43.000Now it's give up liberty to protect liberty.
00:09:48.000And I wanted to read just a sickening editorial by Newsmax, who really has shown their neocon colors.
00:10:33.000The immediate point at issue is one of several proposals to make a mid-course correction in the Patriot Act.
00:10:40.000He says the fight involves, in addition to the left, Heated internal warfare within the President's constituency, the conservative movement consists of libertarians and the security-minded.
00:10:54.000Some who value both are troubled by a feeling they must make a decision not unlike choosing between one's mother and one's father.
00:11:04.000Others continue as the Patriot Act presents no such dilemma.
00:11:13.000Approved by a vote of 309 to 118 majority in late July, the measure prohibits enforcement of the Patriot Act's provision that authorizes the government to conduct a criminal investigation without notifying the suspect that the property has been searched.
00:11:29.000And they go on to attack the conservatives that have gotten this repealed in the House.
00:11:37.000Of course, it'll go nowhere in the New World Order Senate.
00:11:41.000The article goes on and on, but I mean, you heard it.
00:12:10.000Well, Bush is for open borders, but he doesn't mean enter.
00:12:13.000Well, he has said he'll sign the assault weapons ban, but he's got to compromise.
00:12:18.000Well, he did sign campaign finance reform restricting the First Amendment, but again, he's got to work with the Democrats.
00:12:24.000Well, he did give some supercomputers to China, a lot more than Clinton did, but, you know, he's got bad advisors.
00:12:32.000Well, he is against arming all the pilots and Barbara Boxer's for it, but, you know, she's just playing politics.
00:12:39.000Well, Arnold Schwarzenegger is for abortion and gun control, but we're supporting him and selling lots of garbage with his face on it.
00:12:51.000And you see this from WorldNet, Daily News, Max, all these groups.
00:12:56.000And they're out there just selling to the neocons, the mindless, happy-go-lucky listeners of Sean Hannity and Limbaugh that don't know we're losing everything, that don't know America's being totally destroyed right now.
00:13:10.000They don't understand what George Bush is that didn't hear Ron Paul's speech, where Bush's cabinet says it's about world government, says it's about big government, says it's about socialism, says it's about taking your rights, where they say they're for abortion, where they say they're for Machiavellian politics.
00:14:49.000So, you're going to get everything taken from me.
00:14:51.000Your pension funds, your economy, your children's futures, your guns, your sovereignty, your borders, your liberties, your Bill of Rights, the bedrock of America, the Ten Commandments.
00:16:48.000I noticed we had our Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld down here in San Antonio.
00:16:54.000I think it was this morning, and he was out at Laughlin, which is a closed base, and once again, they want to have complete control of the crowd.
00:17:05.000That way, you know, if anybody speaks up, they can be court-martialed and be taken care of, just like, you know, what happened yesterday, where we were listening to the deal with Ashcroft.
00:17:20.000And the police were shoving folks around, getting in their face.
00:18:18.000Remember when he tried to get into the debate?
00:18:22.000And, uh, he was listed in the TV Guide on the News at the debate, but Republicans and Democrats just told cops, hey, uh, arrest him.
00:18:30.000They drove him to a crack, uh, park, literally, folks, the most dangerous area of that city, threw him out an hour away from his car on the side of the road.
00:18:40.000So, that's your new America, where they have staged meetings with staged government employees in plain clothes, with cops and troops behind them, and then they say on the news, look at the town hall.
00:18:52.000Well, they're able to ask questions, but I'm sure they know what the questions are, and your career can take a real bad turn for the worse if you don't ask the right question that you're supposed to ask.
00:19:05.000Well, I mean, everybody knows that when you get government bureaucrats and cops in a, you know, they sneak Ashcroft into a hotel, he has a meeting for an hour, a photo op leaves, this is all, they've admitted that they ordered police to stand behind him and salute.
00:19:23.000A memo went out that when he comes to your town, you have the bureaucrats in there, that's all who's allowed to be there.
00:19:30.000But look, I've got like ten articles today where it says a lot of troops have died, more than, you know, died during the war, since the end of major military operations, and everywhere that's been changed, Bush said, military operations.
00:19:45.000And we have a link on PrisonPlanet.com Chuck, where it shows where the White House websites everywhere has changed it from military operations to major military operations, this shows incredible control.
00:19:59.000And I hope people realize this means we're not going into freedom.
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00:24:32.000We've got Colonel Craig Roberts joining us in the next hour to talk about world events and give us his unique perspective on that.
00:24:42.000Let me go ahead and launch into some of the other news.
00:24:44.000I already mentioned this earlier, but it's important to focus a little bit more on it.
00:24:49.000Deficit could top $500 billion in 2004.
00:24:52.000This is out of MSNBC pessimistic analysis.
00:24:57.000From Congressional Budget Office, the Congressional Budget Office Tuesday forecast a federal budget deficit of $480 billion, you know, for a record shortfall that many in Congress say could go even higher, posing problems for President Bush as he seeks re-election.
00:25:14.000Folks, major economists at major universities a few months ago came out with the numbers, it was in the Dallas Morning News and other publications, that we have a 43 trillion dollar, trillion dollar debt.
00:27:06.000And remember, General Rick Baucus, the head of the base, last year, did my film, Masters of Terror, resigned refusing to be part of the torture.
00:27:19.000General Rick Baucus resigned refusing to be part of Camp X-Ray.
00:27:26.000He said, I will not be part of the torture.
00:27:29.000And he gave interviews up in Rhode Island on the radio, it was in the Associated Press, New York Daily News.
00:27:34.000You never heard about it again, and they have a new general there who doesn't mind.
00:27:37.000The hastily erected Camp Delta for enemy combatants.
00:27:40.000Remember Section 802, anyone that engages in actions that are dangerous to human life, that violate federal or state law, any federal or state law, get an enemy combatant designation.
00:27:50.000And now they're saying that marijuana cigarettes is an act of terror.
00:27:53.000I have the Victory Act right here in front of me.
00:27:57.000The hastily erected Camp Delta enemy combatants will make a significant leap towards permanence with a previously undisclosed fifth phase, the last phase was execution chambers, that will be hard-sided and take a year to build, the Herald has learned.
00:28:14.000Workers are also retrofitting a makeshift courtroom in case some of the 660 detainees from 42 countries, most of them suspected Al Qaeda members or Taliban soldiers captured in Afghanistan, are tried before a military commission.
00:28:32.000literally pouring concrete around its controversial policy of indefinitely
00:28:36.000holding alleged terrorists and supporters in legal limbo without
00:28:41.000prisoner of war rights. Oh yeah, no Bill of Rights, no prisoner of war rights, no
00:28:46.000nothing. This is what the Germans and the Japanese did and we do it now. But you
00:28:51.000saw what happened on 9/11, we're gonna do it now! We will not forget! Well, we won't forget how the hijackers are
00:29:01.000trained at US military bases, how the federal government funded them, how most of them are still alive, confirmed on the record, how the government ordered NORAD to stand down.
00:29:10.000We won't forget who's in business with the bin Ladens.
00:29:14.000We won't forget the facts of how they've used us for a police state while leaving the borders wide open.
00:29:20.000We won't forget that now 8,000 Taliban and Al Qaeda were flown out to safety as part of that stage war in Afghanistan.
00:29:28.000Out to safety in Pakistan with an order to leave him alone.
00:29:31.000And all the colonels and people that have sung the record, they were ordered not to stop Al Qaeda.
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00:31:47.000And now they're building on the Camp X-Ray.
00:31:51.000They admit building an execution area in the Kangaroo Court.
00:31:58.000And it says, That, quote, the development suggests the Bush administration is literally pouring concrete around the controversial policy of indefinitely holding alleged terrorists and supporters in legal limbo without prisoner of war rights.
00:32:14.000This should exist as long as the global war on terrorism is ongoing, if it helps our nation and our allies win, said Camp Commander Major General Jeffrey Miller, who replaced Rick Baucus, the former general who, quote, refused to torture people.
00:32:27.000And set on the record, this isn't Taliban or Al-Qaeda at this base.
00:33:44.000Undermines the stability of the Geneva Convention.
00:33:48.000What about the Bill of Rights, when instead the existing legal system could be modified to meet intelligence security needs?
00:33:55.000But calls to change the approach seem increasingly moot as workers throw up even more durable structures, also including dormitory housing for 2,000 soldiers there, though there's not 2,000 soldiers.
00:34:25.000Got the whole setup there, and again, there's no bid contracts.
00:34:33.000The contractor is Kellogg, Brown & Root.
00:34:35.000It's a subsidiary of Vice President Dick Cheney's former company, Texas-based Halliburton.
00:34:39.000And by the way, they build the re-education centers at the airport in Baghdad and other areas, and you've got to wear an RFID badge or bracelet to have a job anywhere.
00:34:49.000According to the Associated Press, you get $20 a month.
00:34:52.000And there are Associated Press articles and photos we posted of hundreds of men being loaded with hoods over their heads in the backs of trucks.
00:35:26.000and uh... the government admits that it is called an interrogation facility an
00:35:30.000execution facility It is interesting they chose to frame it as an interrogation facility, quote.
00:35:35.000Patton said, does it become the camp to house the people who are the subject of a more intensive interrogation or whose cooperation they haven't been able to obtain?
00:35:45.000Patton also said the news of the commitment to a level of permanence we haven't seen up until now likely means the analysis of detainee releases has been wrong.
00:35:56.000Some commentators have said the military may have decided to draw down the numbers held there, but instead they're building on for 2,000 more.
00:36:05.00064 have been released and four transferred to Saudi Arabia for continued detention to Major John Smith, a military spokesman.
00:36:22.000And again, they say that these facilities are going to be built all over U.S.
00:36:26.000protectorates or possessions or bases, and anyone will be held there for drug possession now.
00:36:32.000Drug possession is an act of terror and will be sent to camps, but again, the government's been caught shipping it in and then creating a crisis.
00:36:41.000When you're idiot teenagers, dumb enough to start dealing some, they'll be shipped off to a camp and they admit they're going to build factories onto these.
00:37:06.000Yeah, Kmart's, uh, and, uh, they have these giant, uh, Big Brother TV screens, it looks like to me, big giant screen above the customer service desk, and you can see yourself on it, like a big surveillance thing.
00:37:19.000And I was wondering, uh, would it do any good to call up the contact management and say, hey, you know, I object to this, uh, this is, uh, some kind of, uh, you know... That's like asking, you've heard the story of the A little gazelle who wanted to go across the African River.
00:38:26.000Sounds like your phone's having a problem there.
00:38:30.000But Warren, when they show you at Walmart and Target and Kmart and all the rest of it, when they show yourself on surveillance camera, that's in case you haven't consciously realized you're being surveilled.
00:38:46.000And that's also to acclimate you, yes, at a higher level to being surveilled.
00:38:55.000Now let's go ahead and talk to Clyde in Colorado.
00:39:05.000I did ask, let's say, Home Depot manager last Friday about, did he have any or did he know in the future of any biometric devices and or RFID chips that were going to be in any of his products or currently any of them?
00:39:48.000Well, no, I mean, I'm not like, oh, I do.
00:39:49.000I'm smart, but let me just tell folks.
00:39:53.000There are so many mainstream RFID articles put out by the RFID Journal, which admits that it was founded by the RFID Consortium, is funded almost exclusively by the RFID industry, the Fortune 500, and Homeland Security.
00:40:07.000They have said Home Depot, Walmart, Procter & Gamble, Target, I mean it's hundreds of companies, Kraft, Gillette, Michelin, I mean, we've listed hundreds of them here.
00:40:23.000And the plan is to tear out all cash registers that are, that have a person at them, and so you're not even, this is admitted, sir, this is admitted four years ago, when I learned of it.
00:40:36.000Tex Mars wrote a book six years ago called Project Lucent, he wrote it in 95, published it in 96, so six years ago published, called Lucent.
00:40:48.000By the way, we offer that now at Infowars.com, but the point is...
00:40:52.000This is old, and it was publicly announced that, did you see the IBM commercial that ran for a couple years, a few years ago, where the guy looks like he's stealing, he's really cool, he's good looking, he's wearing a leather jacket, he's kind of the icon type, he's cramming goods in his shirt, you think he's stealing, but he's so bold, you know, you marvel at his boldness because we're timid and cowardly, we've been engineered that way, he walks through, good looking girls look at him with desire, my, he's a good little thief, Then all of a sudden, the security guard runs up and says, sir, sir, sir.
00:41:24.000He's walking out the front door, and he turns around calmly, and you go, how dare him?
00:42:33.000They're going to ban farmers' markets.
00:42:35.000Uh, that is, you'll have to go through, weigh your stuff, there'll be a government bureaucrat there with an added tax to pay for them to be there, and then everything will have to be put through, uh, their scales, their systems, quote, so a terrorist doesn't attack us through the food supply.
00:42:51.000You'll have to have a special ID card to have a job anywhere connected to food, ranching, farming, in restaurants, in grocery stores, and of course transportation, you'll have to have it, that's already started.
00:43:03.000The entire factories, oh that's key infrastructure, bridges, government jobs, any job.
00:43:10.000Well Alex, it makes me wonder when they're going to ban even having home gardens.
00:43:14.000I've wondered about that for a lot of years.
00:44:18.000they will scream for people to be put in camps, they will worship police
00:44:22.000daughters will be given to the local gestapo uh... it'll be cheerleaders all over TV, troops in black
00:44:28.000ski masks at the super bowl there'll be open prayers to them
00:44:32.000uh... it will then ensue, then there'll be about a ten year period after that
00:44:36.000while they're killing the third world then the mass attacks will begin in the major cities
00:44:40.000and the extermination programs there and uh... that's what we're facing
00:44:43.000Well, are there any other ministries besides End Times that are kind of following what's going on or trying to alert people to?
00:44:49.000I've wondered about, you know, because there just is no information available from certainly not local churches and I haven't heard a single word on any of the national ministries.
00:45:37.000And they'll call for you to be killed in a concentration camp because you don't worship Jesus when he returns.
00:45:42.000See, the Antichrist is going to be Jesus, and they're going to bow down to him, and then these Christians, that's who's going to be leading you to the guillotines.
00:45:50.000Well, you know, I think sometimes... Knowing the global leader loves Jesus and Buddha, cut his head off for Jesus!
00:45:55.000You know, I think in my experience with dealing with Christians and non-Christians, and even a few atheists, I've had more trouble talking to Christians about anything about what's going on.
00:46:39.000You know, people just tune in, they're like, this guy's nuts.
00:46:41.000In my film Road to Tyranny, I have the Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, the big papers in Australia, declassified government plan to sterilize and kill people with race-specific viruses and bacteria.
00:46:56.000Jane's Weapons Dictionary admits they have this.
00:47:02.000We have Henry Kissinger's signature on a CIA plan in 1973 to order the third world, this was transmitted officially and carried out, to sterilize after women forcibly.
00:47:12.000The official globalist statements by the Ted Turners, the Jacques Cousteau's, the Prince Phillips, are they want to kill 95 to 80 percent of us.
00:47:19.000These are in published books, you know, like if I was an animal by Prince Philip, His Royal Highness.
00:47:32.000And when I tell you the Victory Act says if you got one marijuana cigarette you can get put in a concentration camp, it actually says that, folks.
00:47:39.000It says all terrorism clauses apply for any possession of drugs of any type.
00:47:45.000Of controlled substances, including your prescriptions that weren't in the bottle that you just took in your lunch box in your little pill case.
00:47:58.000The globalists want the live extension technologies for themselves.
00:48:01.000So if you want to stop the control grid being put in, when you see them pull out four or five of the checkout lanes and put out self-serve, You've got to understand, the admitted plan is to then tear out all the checkout lanes and make you check yourself out.
00:48:20.000They're now at grocery stores in Texas and New York and Kansas and all over in California putting in the thumb scanners at the self-serve systems.
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00:51:53.000number one they don't have enough people people to serve him
00:51:57.000for enough useful idiots who believe in the cause of the woman think they're good
00:52:02.000I mean, they don't have enough personnel that are willing to torture some Afghan 15-year-old kid to death.
00:52:09.000They don't have enough doctors who are willing to do the The sophisticated suffocation system they have where they paralyze you from the neck down with drugs and then burn your heart and lungs off when you don't answer the questions properly with an MRI hooked up to your brain that supposedly detects if you're lying or not.
00:52:30.000And see, that's why they take thousands of people who are totally innocent to different camps in Jordan, and in Egypt, and in Saudi Arabia, and Turkey, and then to Camp X-Ray.
00:52:43.000And that's why they have the troops carry out the torture.
00:52:46.000Putting a hood over somebody's head, hanging them by their arms for a day or two, off and on, not feeding them, having them in cages for two years with mosquitoes biting them, and rats all over them.
00:52:58.000Stuff the Vietnamese did to our troops.
00:53:01.000And our troops now just think, well, this isn't torture.
00:53:04.000The base commander said it's not torture to tie somebody up with their legs up under their knees for two days, which is, by the way, one of the worst forms of torture.
00:53:47.000See, it's the mass warping of the mind.
00:53:50.000And so you go into the grocery store, you go into the bank, you go into wherever, and notice there's less and less tellers, less and less checkout people.
00:53:58.000And you notice there's big lines at the Home Depot or at the Walmart.
00:54:04.000They want to talk to somebody at the checkout line.
00:54:06.000Plus, they instinctively understand it by going to the checkout line that has a person that keeps the economy going by having an individual there having a job.
00:54:17.000But it isn't about... it's about not needing you now.
00:54:19.000It's about getting you out of the factories, getting you off the farms, getting you dependent on government to go work in government jobs or to have government money simply put on a card.
00:54:31.000See, the globalists control the resources.
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00:57:19.000I'm going to try to get out with the binoculars.
00:57:21.000My dad with the telescope tonight has been kind of cloudy the last few days.
00:57:26.000I haven't been able to do it, but that's something you might want to do.
00:57:28.000Just a side issue, kind of interesting.
00:57:30.000It certainly is a lot bigger than I've ever seen it in my short life.
00:57:33.000It looks like it's a lot bigger than Jupiter appears normally.
00:57:37.000Normally Mars is a tiny red dot or pink dot.
00:57:41.000Just as an interesting side note, I was looking at my atomic clock and it said 826.
00:57:47.000And I was thinking, wow, interesting little tidbit.
00:57:52.000Colonel Craig Roberts is coming up here in about five minutes, and I really am going to throw news articles out at him and get his response and his take on him.
00:58:01.000Right now, let's go to Eric in Connecticut.
00:58:08.000You know, I was listening over the weekend to Matt Drudge, Sunday night, and he was actually talking about The RFID tracker chips in the cars in England.
00:58:17.000And I thought to myself, wow, it's actually interesting that a neocon is finally coming to the party, albeit very late.
00:58:24.000But I wanted to actually make a request.
00:58:26.000You have mentioned earlier that you were in the line for a contract for a very lucrative amount of money if you would give up the crusade.
00:58:36.000And there are a lot of listeners out there, myself included, who basically thought guys like Limbaugh and Hannity and these other people We're the bee's knees.
00:58:45.000And I mean, I hungrily listened to Limbaugh for years and years and years.
00:59:34.000Limbaugh's so trusted as a neocon Judas goat that he's left alone probably.
00:59:42.000But he goes to all the top globalist meetings and is in with them.
00:59:45.000A Hannity or the ilk, look sir, I mean it's come out that It's come out the talk show hosts get orders.
00:59:57.000I've talked to a lot of other talk show hosts that just stay where they're at and are being threatened to be fired because they're not worshipping the New World Order.
01:00:04.000They've got a few token people, but I mean, folks want me to, you know, these meetings I had now five years ago, five years ago, and you know, I've talked to other groups too, and they've always approached to me.
01:00:18.000I mean, I told them it was in confidence, and I had to even go into these discussions, had to sign non-disclosure agreements, and frankly, I wouldn't talk about it even if I hadn't, because, you know, I don't go into a meeting and then, you know, give details of it.
01:00:33.000But no, I mean, this is how they operate.
01:00:36.000They traffic in the souls of men, as the Bible says, and I was told point-blank For those that haven't been told about this, that you want to be on this crusade, or do you want to be a star, and we'll pay a million bucks, which is Trump changed these people.
01:00:56.000I mean, I talked to the local radio station in my area, and I guess they're owned by, I don't know if it's Clear Channel or who, and I talked to the local guy, it's WSUB out of Groton, and I said, look, I said, there's a good show on Alex Jones out of Austin, Texas, you might want to think about running his show.
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01:05:43.000Craig, good to have you back on the show.
01:06:19.000That means we'll never see an end to terror.
01:06:21.000As a military man in the Marines in Vietnam, then in the Army and in Army Intelligence, and as a police officer and as an expert on the New World Order, address torture, Camp X-Ray, the Patriot Act, and everything we see happening.
01:06:34.000Well, you know, Alex, it's really amazing how much history Swings its pendulum every 20 years or 30 years or so.
01:06:43.000Because if we go back in time, look at the French when they set up Devil's Island off the coast of South America.
01:06:49.000And back in the 1800s and even after the turn of the century up into the 1920s or 30s, they were still using an island as far away as they could get from home so that they could ship people off there and relatives wouldn't have any contact with them.
01:07:04.000You didn't know what happened to them.
01:07:06.000And there's no way for them to escape and get home.
01:07:08.000Now we see something like this popping up at Guantanamo.
01:07:10.000That becomes extremely chilling in its own right for taking anybody except military prisoners.
01:07:16.000And the problem I've got with this as a police officer is what is a military prisoner now under all these new laws that they've just generated out of thin air under this Homeland Defense Act and all this other nonsense that they've come up with, with this super overreaction, with a giant codified set of statutes waiting to be passed prior to 9-11.
01:07:36.000So we get this blurring between the jurisdiction of the civilian law enforcement and the jurisdiction of the military and with the federal government bridging the gap with a set of laws that no one read.
01:07:50.000And all of a sudden, what is a military prisoner?
01:07:53.000You can be one now, I can be one, because all they have to do is change your designation, change your status from, you know, one into terrorist.
01:08:01.000Whatever it is, all they have to do is say, well, you're a terrorist, you're a cyber terrorist, you're a propaganda terrorist, you're a radio terrorist, I don't know, you know?
01:08:09.000Well, the states are passing Uh, laws that are carbon copies, in some cases worse.
01:08:16.000In Wisconsin, they're arresting people who sue public officials, calling it, quote, paper terrorism.
01:08:21.000Uh, they're trying to pass laws in Oregon, where if one protester blocks traffic, everyone gets life in prison.
01:08:27.000And it says in a, quote, forest labor camp.
01:08:30.000I mean, this stuff's so crazy, the average person, I don't think, can believe it when we're sitting here talking about it.
01:08:36.000Well, it's gonna get worse, because all they have to do is keep adding to the list.
01:08:41.000They could go after Roy Moore for religious terrorism, or why can't they go after the judge that's making him move the Ten Commandments for religious terrorism?
01:08:59.000treaty they're trying to pass that says that if you incite someone, now you don't even have to say, fire in a theater or go kill this person, now it's you incited it and that's going to be terrorism.
01:09:11.000Well, you know, this goes back to the, you know, we've passed laws through the years That should have never been on the books.
01:09:17.000One of them is conspiracy before the fact.
01:09:20.000In other words, two or more people get together and they talk about a crime.
01:09:24.000Now, they may decide later on that none of them's going to do it.
01:09:27.000You know, you and I decide we're going to go rob the local liquor store, then all of a sudden we say, nah, we don't want to do that, because we don't want to go to jail.
01:09:33.000But somebody overheard us talking about it, okay?
01:09:36.000There are some states where you can be arrested for that on a felony, for criminal conspiracy to plan a crime.
01:09:42.000Well, now there are STDs who draw a picture of a gun saying that was a premeditated, it's thought crime.
01:09:49.000Yeah, and that's where we're getting right now, is we're going to 1984, To the Thought Crimes and the Thought Police.
01:09:57.000We never thought it would happen in this country.
01:10:00.000The Constitution has provisions in there specifically to protect us against this and they just throw it out the window.
01:10:06.000What we found out is there are four branches of government.
01:10:09.000There's the executive, the legislative, the judicial, and the bureaucracy.
01:10:13.000The bureaucracy goes on forever, and it's this giant amoeba that eats its young.
01:10:17.000And what it does is it creates laws, regulations, and sub-institutions.
01:10:21.000Now, sub-institution is, okay, they create Homeland Defense.
01:10:25.000Then Homeland Defense turns around, and if they get enough money in the budget, they create institutions under them that don't fall under anybody else's purview, and then they give them Power to go out and do things by regulation, or by rules, such as the EPA, such as the Department of the Interior.
01:10:40.000That's what's so scary about this biggest federal agency, 1 in 12 employees under it, the others controlled by it, and all the big universities are now shifting to make a large portion of their curriculum to be Homeland Security.
01:10:53.000You know now they're going to list everything as terrorism.
01:10:56.000Now they've officially admitted it in the Victory Act.
01:10:58.000It was in the first Patriot Act under Section 802.
01:11:01.000I mean, they're gonna supply the terror, period, to legitimize this giant bureaucracy.
01:11:07.000And it's no different than what's happened all the way back to Roman times and Greek times.
01:11:12.000All you have to do is inflame the minds of the general population with an event, and then capitalize upon that by saying, we're here to save you, and this is how we're going to have to do it.
01:11:21.000And yes, you're going to have to lose a little bit of liberty, a little bit of freedom, but it's for your own good, it's for your own security, and that's exactly what they're doing now, and they've been doing it for the last couple of years.
01:11:29.000And the problem is, our public school system has thrown all of that history out the window a long time ago, so the younger generations don't know about it.
01:11:37.000And if guys like you and me don't educate people on this, the younger generation who's going to replace us some day is going to go right along with it like malleable clay.
01:11:51.000If you would just tell friends and family about this show, about Craig's books, about my books, about my films, about our websites, riflewarrior.com, infowars.com, if you would help us and really get out there and try to recruit people to reality, to come out of this Matrix-like system, if you don't make it a big focus of your life, folks, you're gonna lose liberty, you're gonna lose freedom.
01:12:16.000And the Founding Fathers said this, they said, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
01:12:20.000And this whole line that Ashcroft has been saying, you know, give your liberty up to protect liberty.
01:12:25.000I mean, that's an oxymoron, or give your liberty up for security.
01:12:29.000Colonel, do we get security out of giving up liberty?
01:12:43.000And it starts at the borders, too, and both of those are under attack.
01:12:46.000Well, we move up from your own property.
01:12:48.000You have to be able to secure yourself, just like a pioneer on the frontier in the old days couldn't count on the cavalry ever getting there in time.
01:12:54.000So you have to be able to protect yourself and your family.
01:12:57.000Then your friends and neighbors have to join together so you can protect your community.
01:13:01.000We do that with our local police, our local volunteer services.
01:13:04.000Then we have to worry about protecting our state because each state is an individual entity And we do that with the State Police, the National Guard, and so on.
01:13:13.000Then we worry about protecting the country, but since we can't, you and I can't really do anything about it, we pay the government to do it for us.
01:13:20.000We hire an army with our tax money, and they are supposed to protect our borders first.
01:13:25.000That is first and primary to protect the borders.
01:13:28.000You want Homeland Defense, then stop the immigration problem by putting troops on the borders.
01:13:51.000But instead, we send them to 272 places all over the world and in places we never heard of or care about.
01:13:57.000uh... bosnia her goes to be enough uh... close to vote
01:14:01.000uh... and so i'm going to break their they're covering up the numbers of dead
01:14:05.000i mean there are reputable reports of the numbers of debt or a lot higher
01:14:10.000but it it's i would have to i'd have to be real careful on in that
01:14:15.000area because i have i have been investigations on that before
01:14:18.000where you have uh... agent brockett or sandpaper layoffs forty people that day
01:14:23.000and come to find out they lost and somebody wanted to add a zero.
01:14:27.000And here's the problem we've got, is we've got families who are going to be missing loved ones, and they're going to report this someplace along the line.
01:14:36.000But, you know, we can't discredit it either.
01:14:39.000Because, here's the fact, we're not getting timely information, say from Iraq.
01:15:06.000They're not getting any of these packages these people are putting together and sending over.
01:15:09.000They're sitting in warehouses someplace.
01:15:10.000So if they're not getting information going that way, we're not getting information coming back either.
01:15:16.000That's scary when you can't get a package of the troops and they had told them that you know when you get Baghdad you come home but I read the army reports before the war they said it was a five-year occupation I can't believe people bought that propaganda that they could just go subdue 21 million people and then leave them alone.
01:15:36.000Well, it's going to be a permanent occupation in the sense that we're not going to give up that place.
01:15:41.000We're not going to give up the oil fields.
01:15:43.000But the big thing is we want to be able to control the strategic area.
01:15:48.000And as we talked yesterday, let's outline this real quick so everybody can look at this in perspective.
01:15:53.000We started in the East with Pakistan, and they're kind of a semi-ally, depending, they're malleable.
01:15:58.000The New World Order guys in government use them for whatever they want to.
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01:21:36.000armed forces being utilized to take these areas, we have significantly taken a section of the Middle East and left one part out, and that is Iran.
01:21:49.000Because Iran sits right in the middle of all those places.
01:21:52.000We started at the East, we went to the North, we went to the West, and we already had the South, which is the Persian Gulf.
01:21:58.000It's a pond for one of the American fleets.
01:22:13.000And they admit Now, that a few months ago, during the Iraq War, at the end of it, that the CIA got the students going.
01:22:22.000Oh yeah, and let's go back to Mosaddeh.
01:22:25.000If people get my book, The Medusafile, and go into the original seizure of Iran, we just sent a handful of CIA agents in, they stirred up a revolution, and they overthrew a guy named Mosaddeh, who was the head of Iran at the time, and they did it for a conglomerate of American interest plus British petroleum.
01:22:43.000British Petroleum had a huge interest in the place, but we wanted the oil and we wanted
01:22:47.000to keep control of it over British Petroleum, who had it at the time, and by throwing out
01:22:52.000most of the day, we got the oil fields.
01:22:54.000Then we turn around and we install the Shah.
01:22:57.000And by the way, one of the Shah's captains who ran tortures is a Chalibi.
01:23:03.000This guy is convicted of stealing $300 million from the ally, the Jordanians.
01:23:07.000He's now setting up his own little mafia organization there in Baghdad, and when the Jordanians asked for him to be released, the Interpol said no.
01:23:18.000Well, you know, if you back up again and look at what happened as soon as the Shah got in, well, he had to have a secret police himself, so he set up the Savak.
01:23:38.000So you could do that to take care because you wanted the Shah to stay in there because you had the Russians up north and we wanted the Iranian border well secured against the Russians.
01:23:45.000And so American corporations went in and built giant radar stations and checkpoints and stuff all along the Iranian border.
01:23:52.000And then we had, of course, all the arms deals and so on that went on over there.
01:23:57.000But eventually, they had to do away with the Shah.
01:24:04.000But we had the revolution that happened during the Carter regime, and out goes the Shah, in comes the Ayatollahs, in comes the very people who subjugate the citizenry of Iran.
01:24:18.000Under a thumb of purity like they've never seen before.
01:24:20.000Now when you do that, what you do is you compress a political spring.
01:24:24.000You can only push it so far before that spring is going to spring back at you.
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01:27:38.000I want to, in a few minutes, talk to Colonel Roberts about an Associated Press article, an AFP article, several others.
01:27:45.000Headline, Idealistic Philippine Rebellion Leaders Claim Moral Victory.
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01:33:16.000I've read One Shot, One Kill, Medusafile, Sniper Looks at Ely Plaza, but Craig, Colonel, Before we get into this article here out of AFP and the Associated Press about the Philippine military not going along with government-sponsored terror, you talk about how ten years ago you'd go deer hunting and there'd be thirty guys and maybe two of you knew about the New World Order.
01:33:39.000You say now the majority know about it or are concerned.
01:34:00.000And just in a nutshell, what is the New World Order master plan?
01:34:04.000What would the world look like if the New World Order had all its way?
01:34:07.000Well, they've almost got it right now.
01:34:10.000To answer the last question first, there are certain things that have to be done for the NWO scumbags to have what they want, and they've done most of it.
01:34:21.000Now, one of the things they have to do, of course, is disarm the population.
01:34:26.000The entire world, basically, has been disarmed with the exception of a few ragtags running around with AK-47s here and there that are totally insignificant, uncontrollable, or in locations that we don't care about anyway.
01:34:37.000But as far as major populations, We've lost Australia, we've lost England, we've lost Europe, and we've lost Canada, and we're next.
01:35:03.000They have to destroy our belief that we have to answer for what we do in this world.
01:35:09.000And if they can do that, and that's what communists did, they found out that what they had to do is they had to replace God with government.
01:35:16.000And God doesn't take care of you, government does.
01:35:18.000Don't answer to God, but you have to answer to government.
01:35:20.000In fact, we don't even want you talking to God.
01:35:36.000A communist is a socialist with a gun.
01:35:38.000But a socialist will go in and they will legislate out little pieces of your house until you have nothing left but one room.
01:35:48.000And we do that here by taking the Ten Commandments out, by no prayer at ball games, by creating a myth of... Yeah, I just read about a city council that would say a prayer.
01:36:06.000We've got to stop putting up with all these socialists.
01:36:09.000Well, what they've done is they've created a myth in our minds, and even some of my friends that know better are starting to say, Uh, separation of church and state.
01:36:17.000I have to keep jumping up and saying, guys, there is no separation of church and state.
01:36:35.000Because once you get up to the globalist level, it matters not if you're Republican or Democrat.
01:36:38.000Well, that's what I keep trying to get through to these neocons, but Craig, Jumping forward here, the police you talk to, you say they're waking up.
01:36:50.000Well, it's funny that some of the people that five years ago that I would talk to and they'd look at me with this blank stare like, what in the world are you talking about?
01:36:58.000I'm now receiving email from and they're sending me articles about New World Order activities and And they all have their own agendas.
01:37:05.000They all have their own areas of concern.
01:37:07.000And you know, a lot of police officers, their big thing is they like to be able to go out and shoot or go hunting.
01:37:11.000They don't want anybody messing with their Second Amendment rights.
01:37:14.000But then the other friends I've got in other areas are concerned about the First Amendment rights, and the freedom of religion, and the freedom of speech rights.
01:37:20.000But where before, they said, well, they can't do that.
01:37:56.000You know, once you destroy religion and you replace God with government and you take away The fact that if you're bad, you're going to go to hell.
01:38:05.000Take that factor out of everything, you know?
01:38:07.000Then we're going to go to destroying our morals, and we do that with... Well, it's moral relativism.
01:38:11.000Well, yeah, we're torturing him, but it's okay, because our government's good.
01:38:15.000Or, yeah, we're taking this farmer's land, but everybody needs it.
01:38:23.000You know, if you can flood the world with pornography and stuff like that, and make it where the kids can get to this stuff, It follows the Rothschild plan, and this is the point I was trying to get to.
01:38:33.000If you destroy and rewrite the value system, if you destroy the morals, if you put, you know, homosexuality is a verboten thing to even talk about, and you promote it, and you can do all of these things that have always been bad in the past, but now they're good, and good is bad, Then what we've done is we've taken and reshaped the mind of the people to where they will accept just about anything.
01:39:05.000You're not conservative if you don't take microchips.
01:39:07.000Yeah, and I don't know how in the world anybody can go along with that that has any uh... knowledge of the bible when it got all these christian leaders out saying the chips good now well and and uh... you know they're they're neochristians
01:39:22.000I mean, there's so many areas we can go in this direction, but if you go to the Kills on my book and get about halfway through it, I go into the Rothschild Plan that's in 1773, and it said, you have to destroy and corrupt the youth of all nations, you have to destroy morals, you have to get rid of God, it goes right down the line, and those things came up later as the Ten Planks of Communism, and now they're in this country being implemented by our own Congress, who passes laws without even reading the things.
01:39:58.000And FLAC is where they send something up to scare everybody, they pass a bunch of new regulations and laws, and then it goes away, but we've still got the regulations and laws.
01:40:06.000Case in point, what happened to SARS, Alex?
01:40:09.000Well, it's going to be back, but they had to pass laws to quarantine you.
01:40:12.000Well, it's going to be back, but they had to pass laws to quarantine you.
01:40:16.000Oh, they got the laws passed, but what happened to the disease?
01:40:19.000We had the power outage, now Chuckie Schumer says nationalized power grid.
01:40:23.000Oh, by the way, I did email you that website we talked about last night.
01:40:42.000Okay, what I got was one of my federal guys, who's really up to speed on all the stuff we're talking about, emailed me a radar imagery From the National Oceanic and Space Administration, or whatever it is, Atmospheric Administration, and it was taken just before the blackout, and it shows a massive EMP burst right over Long Island, the northern Long Island in southeastern New York.
01:41:08.000To the exclusion of everything else in the country, here's this one giant area that just lit up on radar, which happened just right at the beginning of the blackout, which would have sent a huge power surge all the way up the grid to Canada and over to the Great Lakes.
01:41:21.000Which would have blown transformers and shut down portions of the grid.
01:41:25.000Now anytime you shut down just portions of the grid, automatically the rest of the grid wants to come in and switch in and take over to feed those areas.
01:41:33.000But when you have too many of them, then they in turn shut down because they can't handle the overload.
01:41:37.000And instead of destroying the system and burning up and blowing their own transformers and costing a lot of money, they just go into shutdown mode.
01:41:44.000They went all the way from the East Coast to one-fourth of the entire, what we call, the Northeast Power Grid.
01:41:52.000Now, the Northeast Power Grid, interestingly enough, goes all the way to the Rocky Mountains, comes all the way down to the Red River in Southern Oklahoma.
01:41:59.000You've got the Western Power Grid west of the Rockies.
01:42:02.000It could have shut down the same way if you'd have done this over San Francisco or Los Angeles.
01:42:06.000And then you've got, interesting enough Alex, you're lucky because you've got the Texas power grid.
01:42:11.000The Texas power grid is only Texas and eastern New Mexico, which is a very... But see, their answer is link them all up together now so this doesn't happen again when the electricians I've talked to and engineers say that's the last thing you want to do.
01:42:24.000Absolutely the last thing you want to do.
01:42:26.000Now, we've got this so big virus going around in everybody's email.
01:42:31.000And it's been so successful, it's jammed up everybody's email.
01:42:34.000And by the way, if we get a chance, I'll tell you how to stop it today.
01:42:37.000I just found out this morning, and I think everybody out there that's listening, if they've got email, they've had, you know, 50 to 200 of these stupid things coming in saying, open the attachment and all that stuff, and I'll tell you how to fix that in a minute.
01:42:49.000But the thing about this, we talked about this last night, and who could have written something like this that could shut down the internet email system so effectively for a length of time and then self-destruct?
01:43:00.000The average hacker out here isn't probably going to be able to do it, but the Red Chinese Army We sold all kinds of computer secrets to during the Clinton administration.
01:43:08.000They've had newspaper announcements every year saying ordering their college students to attack us.
01:43:14.000Right, and they have a cyber warfare division just to try to shut down our computer systems.
01:43:20.000Now if you can shut down the email system, why can't you write a virus to shut down the computer switching systems?
01:43:48.000I want to lead up to a Wackenhut contract with Guantanamo Bay.
01:43:52.000But I've been a Christian for over 40 years, and only God put me in a position I work at a Wagon Hut facility in California and I've been there only five, not even five months, but I was working at McDonnell Douglas.
01:44:10.000I was laid off at Boeing, three years unemployed, and now desperate for a job I end up at Wagon Hut.
01:44:18.000And just this past week I heard news that Wagon Hut officially received a contract at Guantanamo Bay.
01:44:26.000And that contract is with Homeland Security Department, and they're hiring people at 50% higher wages than what we're getting here in California.
01:44:35.000Yeah, they're building 2,000 new beds in stockade type, Auschwitz style.
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01:48:24.000And Wackenhut, you know, is just an offshoot of things like the Pinkertons, where the government hires private thugs to do their bidding, like we've seen in the formation of the West of this nation.
01:48:37.000Dan in California, anything else you wanted to add before we go to Bob, Kevin, and others?
01:48:41.000Yeah, well I can add that the term starts in October and we were given notice that for any correctional officer by this coming Friday to give notice to a warrant if we want to go down there.
01:48:55.000But it's limited, they don't allow families, it's just the Really?
01:49:15.000You might go servitor in the death camp.
01:49:18.000Of course, if you criticize it, you might independent.
01:49:20.000Yeah, but I know the Lords are going to be with me down there, but I've got other things that I have here to deal with, too.
01:49:28.000Uh, but I just can't see, how can Homeland Security be in charge, if they're only homeland within our own borders, why do they have anything contract outside of our borders?
01:50:09.000My video of the takeover, local newscast, Seattle, and it shows the FEMA camp, and they say, Sam Point, FEMA camp, we're going to put the protesters in it.
01:50:32.000But there is no overwatch if you're on an island someplace.
01:50:35.000And we could set up a high-powered lens and take photos.
01:50:38.000Interestingly enough, when I was in Hawaii two years ago, I was told that there is no prisons in Hawaii that keep prisoners that they subcontract with the state of Texas.
01:50:47.000And that you get all the Hawaiian felons down there and Hawaii just pays you.
01:50:51.000uh... yet how why uh... the hot the hawaiian islands are basically a military
01:50:57.000camp uh... huddle who is always under martial law
01:51:00.000uh... pearl harbors near all the military bases are there are so that's
01:51:04.000pretty much a military community absolutely dan please call me
01:51:09.000after your tour in the uh... camp okay well i don't think i'm going to
01:51:13.000okay we'll go to our site uh... go ahead
01:51:16.000uh... pop up apostle paul is that alex jones of that day you know and we're not
01:51:21.000so they the government like a new translation said you know And he was writing to the church, and that's the church leaders, and I just wanted to get that in, because I couldn't call in last time.
01:54:23.000So, we'll be discussing this with Colonel Roberts, because he's done a lot of study of the Philippines, interesting things that are happening there, and just a bunch of other news reports.
01:54:31.000Right now, let's go back to the calls.
01:55:21.000Well, you can trace that all the way back to Edward Lansdale in the Philippines, before the Vietnam War, and during the Vietnam War.
01:55:28.000You can trace it down to South America, when a lot of the South American dictator's security forces were trained there.
01:55:35.000What happens is they create a school, then all of a sudden there's little tentacles that branch out into other areas and say, oh, by the way, while you're here, let me tell you what else you can do.
01:55:44.000And then sometimes it just gets out of hand, and I think School of the Americas went that way with a lot of these These alleged right-wing dictators that some of them turned out left-wing dictators later on, but that's beside the point.
01:55:55.000Yeah, we saw that back especially in the 60s.
01:55:59.000If you really want to read about some interesting things, look up General Edward Lansdale.
01:56:04.000The guy's the first two or three-star general that ever surfaced that only had one row of combat ribbons.
01:57:24.000That's a great point you made, Colonel, because I meant to say that last hour never did, that they're doing it there because it's outside the U.S., it's kind of in this territorial jurisdiction.
01:57:35.000Right, and you can go even further because you have to designate the difference between military law and admiralty law.
01:57:43.000Military law has to do with the Army, and I guess the Air Force would fall under that But the Admiralty Law is Navy and Marine Corps, and it goes to the Law of the High Seas, which is totally different.
01:57:53.000And it's like every naval base is just like a ship.
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02:01:26.000Okay, let's talk to Kevin then we'll cover this news about the Philippines and government-sponsored terror
02:01:34.000Then we'll shift gears and go to Willie and Joe and Darren and others.
02:01:46.000I originally called up to talk about the Dallas Police Force, but I'll get to that in a second.
02:01:53.000I guess if your previous caller was going to be the guy turning the ovens on in Guantanamo Bay, I guess my brother is going to be the train driver.
02:02:42.000If this is going to be a civil airline transport contract to haul prisoners in, is there any information in this MPEG file that you've got showing where they're flying from?
02:03:02.000He lives here in Dallas, in Austin, and I know your brother, he's the pilot, I don't want to get into too much detail.
02:03:09.000I'm not going to say what airline he flies for or anything.
02:03:12.000So it's a big business where the loafer's calling in to get the camp jobs at the ovens, and then your brother's going to be flying people in?
02:03:20.000I mean, he's basically, being an airline pilot, you're basically a federal employee.
02:03:23.000I mean, you can't rock the boat too much.
02:03:26.000I wanted to say, I've read the Somalia book that Roberts has and the One Shot One Kill.
02:03:32.000He is an excellent writer and he's somebody that has credibility from the military that can bridge this gap, you know, where someone would be called a conspiracy nut or whatever and not have any credibility.
02:03:45.000One thing I noticed that, you know, until about a week ago, they kept saying, well, the death toll since hostilities ended in Iraq is at 50.
02:03:55.000Today I saw they came out and said it's 138, so it's jumped from about 50 to 138 in a weekend.
02:04:02.000Also, all the government websites said all combat activities have ended, and then now they've changed them all, and news articles have all changed to major.
02:04:11.000Well, Kay Bailey Hutchison yesterday... Colonel, Colonel, we've confirmed this.
02:04:14.000They're actually going back, not just to government sites now, but newspapers and changing that.
02:04:18.000What does it mean when retroactively newspapers start getting edited?
02:04:25.000If you look at Operation Mockingbird, where the CIA controls the media anyway, they have to be able to go along with the government program because you have to control the minds of the people, and you do that by rewriting history.
02:04:37.000Well, that's right out of the Ministry of Truth in Winston.
02:04:41.000uh... i don't know if you can go back to the uh... i a m march i filmed a uh...
02:04:46.000the i_a_a_ and c_f_r_ steering committee at u_p_ law school this is world war four
02:04:51.000will be in there and philip bob it on the continuity of government panels and
02:04:55.000leo graw your there were conferred muslims in camps and it doesn't really matter muslims
02:05:00.000it can be just one group that's out of favor just to get that
02:05:03.000the president started that it starts flowing but
02:05:06.000uh... you know had a mary slaughtered from princeton saying you know we can't tell the american public that iraq the
02:05:11.000base of operations that they go to iran and syria
02:05:14.000and they are not iraqis They'd never stand for it.
02:05:16.000Kevin shot that footage there at the meeting, and it is just chilling, chilling stuff.
02:05:25.000And he talked about World War IV, then a month later it was on CNN, big headline, Woolsey says we're in World War IV.
02:05:31.000But yeah, they sit around and brag with news cameras.
02:05:34.000That we've got to lie to the people and can't let them know what we're doing.
02:05:42.000That's going to be a historic document.
02:05:44.000Why are they so arrogant, Colonel, that they can just publicly brag in front of ten news cameras that, yeah, we're going to lie to the people and this will never be on the news as they look at the news cameras?
02:05:54.000Well, you know, I think that they think they have a handle on the whole situation that's not going to be changed now.
02:05:59.000And a lot of them are getting a little bit reckless.
02:06:03.000Which is good because it shows stupidity on their part because not all of us are dumb down to the point where we don't see this stuff.
02:06:12.000I think it's human nature that you get cocky and you get overconfident.
02:06:17.000You see it in sports where one team goes out, they've won five games in a row and they know that this team is not going to be a challenge and they get beat because they get overconfident.
02:06:26.000But these people, they start announcing things ahead, and a lot of times they'll do that just to see what kind of play they get.
02:07:00.000And they're all just clapping and laughing and patting each other on the back.
02:07:04.000But we've just got to get to a point where we can tell people these things and they don't forget when they go to sleep and they go, you know, oh wow, you know, that was weird.
02:07:31.000They put in this police chief, bumped him up over everyone's head, I think he was a patrol officer, a black man, there was a complete purge of the upper echelon of the Dallas police force, which I mean, you know, maybe it's not such a bad thing since they're probably one of the most corrupt departments in the world, but the fallout was predictable.
02:08:02.000Last week, Giuliani and Associates were in town pitching to the City Council how they can come in and run the Dallas Police Department like they did New York.
02:08:10.000and clean it up, you know, this also...
02:08:13.000Oh yeah, Giuliani's a definite CIA guy.
02:08:15.000He's going around selling them on the anti-terror, no civil liberties, no freedoms model.
02:08:21.000Colonel comments on how they're covertly federalizing cities.
02:08:24.000And the FBI is taking charge of the department also.
02:08:27.000And I'll stop. Thank you very much, guys.
02:09:29.000They don't know that this is happening.
02:09:31.000There is a national organization of chiefs of police That of major cities that do everything they can to convince mayors to hire very liberal or very socialist or very politically correct New World Order type police chiefs.
02:09:46.000And when you hire a police chief, the reflection of the department is whatever his vision is, so to speak, or whatever his agenda is.
02:09:55.000And I have seen this happen all over the country.
02:09:57.000I've seen it happen in our own department here in Tulsa.
02:09:59.000uh... where they we had a a guy that was in my academy class ended up becoming
02:10:04.000his is good guy i like him but he but he was a very socialist very globalist and
02:10:08.000he became the chief of police the next thing we knew the whole department was uh... was reef
02:10:13.000with was ending up with all kinds of decisions that were shoving us into
02:10:17.000the k_g_b_ mentality uh... and this is happening in in different cities around
02:10:40.000I mean, this has happened in other states as well, especially up north.
02:10:43.000Now what happens at that point is you get the FBI that comes in, let's say.
02:10:48.000And they put their idea of the way this department ought to be running.
02:10:52.000What they do is they come in with new policies and procedures, they come in with new... And they say 50 of your officers are now going to be watching the evil right-wingers.
02:11:01.000Oh yeah, they can create sub-task force in different units and reorganize the whole department into whatever image they want.
02:11:06.000And at that point it becomes nothing but a clone of the federal government.
02:11:10.000And here's another thing that's happening.
02:11:11.000We're seeing what's known as cross-deputization and cross-commissioning.
02:11:15.000That means I'm out here on the streets and they call me into squad meeting and say this is agent so-and-so from the federal government and we're going to now make you a federal officer as well as a city and state officer.
02:11:27.000You are now going to have two commissions so that you can be task forced to help on joint uh... task forces to deal with drugs or deal with uh... there's no reason there's no reason to do that no there's no because what you've done that once you cross deputize everybody across the country you have created a national police force that above all is answerable to the department of justice and that's what FEMA has on their badges is national police force that's right and and and once you get to answering to the department of justice you answer to whoever the uh... head of the department of justice is which means you answer also to the president of the united states
02:12:00.000And because he works for the President.
02:12:02.000So in your chain of command, it jumps from out of your local jurisdiction under your second badge.
02:12:09.000Yeah, all it does is make the police chief the city governor.
02:12:25.000And the feds come in and teach you how to not just shoot some innocent kid in the butt, but here, we'll burn down a church and kill everybody inside and make it look good.
02:12:32.000We'll teach you how to be real professionals.
02:12:35.000Well, you know, the thing that goes beyond that is what happens when all of a sudden they say, we have a national emergency, you are now operating all as federal agents.
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02:17:35.000Yes sir, I was up there for about three nights and four or five days and I just came back to Mobile to get a break and pass the baton to some other Christians and I wanted to bring you on a little update on what's going on if I may.
02:17:52.000Supreme Court, let me see if I can get everything in order here, Chief Justice Roy Moore found out he was suspended by the eight other state Supreme Court Justices on CNN News and he was never served and the other eight won't even let him in his office to get his personal items.
02:18:12.000A counter lawsuit has been filed Kelly McGinley and some others, and I believe you know her.
02:18:20.000She has www.retakingamerica.com in Mobile.
02:18:23.000I believe you've been interviewed on her program before in Mobile.
02:18:57.000Thank you, Bush, for appointing all these judges, and this one that's going after more.
02:19:01.000And thank you for Bohemian Grove, and thank you for open borders and gun control, and thank you for being a neocon.
02:19:07.000Let me get comments from Colonel Roberts about this.
02:19:11.000Well, you know, it goes back to what we were talking about in the beginning, that they have established a system where they've put people on the bench who are going to do everything they can to legislate law from the bench instead of just uphold the law and judge the law.
02:19:24.000What they're doing is they're creating law from the bench.
02:19:26.000Yeah, I mean, they're saying police can run warrantless checkpoints.
02:19:29.000I mean, that's a total violation of the Fourth Amendment.
02:20:38.000I just wanted to bring up something that Colonel Roberts mentioned about the SoBig virus.
02:20:45.000That was going through and it's kind of a red herring there because it's a really simple virus that probably any first-year university student that coded.
02:20:56.000I've been working in IT for about eight years and it's pretty interesting because if people wanted to get real malicious, you wouldn't even be reading about it.
02:21:06.000It'd be so stealthy that Well, that's the kind of stuff the government's got, and I think Roberts is talking about the scale of it, but go ahead and be specific, exactly what are you saying?
02:21:21.000People shouldn't look at this as a malicious attack by a government or by a terrorist organization.
02:21:32.000But really more like a kid sitting in his room.
02:21:37.000All I was saying is I've read the Chinese newspapers, not somebody saying the Chinese said it.
02:21:43.000I've read the Chinese newspapers where they, and supposedly our friends folks, where they say we're the big enemy and they order their college students to launch hack attacks on America.
02:21:56.000I think what Craig was saying is that's one of the big culprits of a lot of the mischief we see.
02:22:15.000You've had a lot of classes on programming and stuff, but what I'm saying is it cost us over ten billion dollars a day and lost business through the internet because of this virus and the government isn't doing anything about it.
02:22:26.000They're not trying to track down who did it.
02:24:10.000Yeah and it just to me it kind of takes people's You know, attention away from real issues like what's going on in Alabama, California right now and stuff like that.
02:24:37.000The easiest way to fix it, I would go to Symantec.com and they have a removal tool.
02:24:43.000Go ahead and change the registry settings and kill the virus and wipe it off your hard drive.
02:24:51.000Well, that's if it's on your hard drive.
02:24:52.000The problem is, it's not on my hard drive because I clean it every day and I get over 200 emails a day with this junk on it to open the attachment.
02:24:59.000And this has been going on for two weeks.
02:25:01.000Now, this is coming from, and it also takes my email address and sends it all over the internet making me look like I'm sending it and I have a virus when I don't.
02:25:12.000And I can only address the Outlook Express is what I use.
02:25:20.000You can go to Tools, go to the Tools at the top in the Outlook Express when you've got your email program open, and then you go from the Tools tab, you go to Message Rules, then you go to Mail, and you're not going to remember this, but just know it's there.
02:25:35.000Then Mail Rules, it's just following the progression down until you can click on the rule description, and you can edit in there, you can type in a line that says, I don't want any more email that says, open the attachment, or I don't want any more email that says, RE your application, or RE thank you, or RE your details.
02:25:55.000You know, all of these things that it's using over and over again.
02:25:57.000And you can go to Symantec, and you can go to McAfee, and you can get a list of all of these subject headers.
02:26:02.000You can type them in there, and from now on, it will weed those out automatically and throw them in the trash.
02:26:06.000And it's also a good idea to do that, because that's a common tactic that almost all email viruses use.
02:26:51.000It's a big French newspaper, news service.
02:26:53.000Disgruntled rebel Philippine troops claimed a moral victory Monday despite being forced to return, dejected to barracks after their failed military uprising in central Manila.
02:27:06.000The young, battle-tested and idealistic military officers and enlisted men reluctantly agreed to end their 22-hour siege and be court-martialed under the authority's degree to consider demands for a probe into allegations of military and government corruption.
02:27:22.000We were ready to die, but give up for the sake of our comrades in the military and the interest of the people and the country.
02:27:29.00031-year-old Navy officer Antonio Trinales, the self-styled leader of the group, said, we have already planted the seeds.
02:27:36.000We will just have to bite the bullet and roll with the punches.
02:27:42.000This is our significant contribution to the country.
02:27:45.000Folks, they could get life in prison or executed.
02:27:48.000He said he and his 300-odd men ended their occupation of an upscale apartment and shopping complex in the financial center after intense negotiations with the government, opposition, and military officials.
02:28:02.000In the end, sources close to the negotiations said the key figures of the mutiny, whose average age was 27 years old, were largely influenced by colleagues from their alma mater, the Philippine Military Academy, where they belonged to a class renowned for its brilliance and idealism.
02:28:16.000Armed Forces of the Philippines Chief of Staff, General Narisco Abilla, agreed he would create a special panel to study the complaints raised by the young officers against President Glorio Arroyo's administration in the military.
02:28:34.000It goes on to say, Tremnilis, who spoke to Arroyo about his grievances before the revolt, sounded dejected in a local television interview.
02:28:45.000And he says, uh, these reforms will not come in my lifetime, he said in a defeat in his voice.
02:28:51.000Cornelis had documented the irregularities in the Philippines military in a controversial thesis he submitted for a master's degree at the University of Philippines last year.
02:29:02.000Eugene Gonzalez, another rebel leader, military officer in revolt, was a reminder of the country's leaders to serve with sincerity, adding that his group was prepared to face the music for its action.
02:29:18.000They accuse the military leadership of selling arms to rebels from the country's biggest separatist Muslim group, the Islamic Liberation Front, or MILF, the communist guerrilla force of New People's Army, and the notorious Abu Sayyaf Kingpin.
02:29:36.000The mutineers also who colleagues say also hold a sterling combat record said they had come across recovered ammunition from captured rebel camps with markings DND Department of National Defense arsenal.
02:29:50.000These bullets are some of the same ones that are killing our fellow soldiers in the field, complained Captain Renardo Gambila, another Corps leader of the siege.
02:29:58.000The Ministry has also accused Defense Secretary Angelo Reyes and Military Intelligence Chief of masterminding bombings against civilian targets.
02:30:06.000In the southern Philippines in a bid to declare the MILF a terrorist group and eventually get more U.S.
02:30:39.000as essential to his operation i've got about ten articles on this
02:30:42.000it gets worse they caught a u_s_ spy blowing stuff up in the
02:30:46.000u_s_ government came and got him and i it caught him red-handed doing it some of the security
02:30:51.000troops of caught uh... other intelligence agency people planning bombs
02:30:55.000that's just the beginning I can't babble through all this in the interest of time, but Colonel Roberts, I mean, how many times do we have to catch Mossad, MI6, CIA blowing stuff up?
02:31:06.000I mean, it's just so obvious what they're doing.
02:31:09.000Well, and it is, and it's not the first time.
02:31:12.000And it's probably going to continue on because it's kind of a modus operandi for anybody in the intelligence segment to be able to initiate an action so that they can have a counteraction to it.
02:31:23.000So they can justify spending more money or bringing in more troops.
02:31:27.000And this whole thing is pointing toward us putting American forces back into the Philippines.
02:31:32.000And we've been there several times before.
02:32:25.000I think it was in Manila or near Manila.
02:32:28.000He's in a van, and a gorilla's come up, and I can't remember if they shot him or threw a bomb in the van or what it was, but anyway, he was assassinated over there because he was starting to make waves on this very connection that, hey, there's a problem here.
02:32:41.000We got people inside the Philippine government who are supplying the rebels, who are supplying the different Islamic factions and so on.
02:32:50.000Now, we take it a step further and we look at the Oklahoma City bombing.
02:32:53.000We've got Abu Sayyaf involved in that because I've got a file from the Philippine government that shows that Nichols and McVeigh, especially Nichols, went to the Philippines several times, met with Abu Sayyaf.
02:33:05.000Now, who he met with Abu Sayyaf, and we've discussed this in the past, He met with Ramsey Yosef, who was later one of the World Trade Center bombers.
02:33:14.000He met with a guy named Mohammed Wali Khan, who was Osama Bin Laden's left-hand man.
02:33:19.000And he met with a guy named Edwin Angeles.
02:33:21.000Now this is where the point I'm trying to make now is Edwin Angeles was the second commander of Abu Sayyaf, but Edwin Angeles was a member of the Philippine Secret Intelligence Service.
02:33:55.000If you can stir up the people against an organization or against a government, then you can either take over the organization or the government by using the people.
02:34:12.000So now you've got Philippine military personnel who are saying, you know, we found out that we're supplying the enemy and we're blowing up our own stuff and we're not putting up with it anymore.
02:34:21.000It's about time we had a little discussion with this government at Bandit Point, and that's where the insurrection came from.
02:34:28.000And then they gave themselves up to be put in prison for the rest of their lives.
02:34:34.000And they'll probably be killed in prison by communists who are openly working for the government.
02:34:38.000I mean, I've had leftist anarchists Who aren't, again, anarchists at all.
02:34:43.000Walk over to me at a rally, admit they work for the feds, and say that we can kill you anytime we want.
02:34:49.000Yeah, that, they, uh, sometimes they get a little brazen.
02:34:54.000I understand, but my point is, is that these so-called leftists out in the streets, who are against the wars and all this, they're there to make anti-war look stupid.
02:35:04.000They're there to control the debate and make the left look like it's good.
02:35:09.000And what we're seeing, though, is all of this stuff.
02:35:11.000It doesn't matter whether it's right-wing or left-wing, it's all going in the same direction right now, and it's all being controlled by the globalists for one purpose, and that is to pull all of this stuff together to accomplish their little new world order scenario.
02:35:25.000There's going to be more and more bombings, more and more terror, and the government gets bigger and bigger with more controls over our lives, and now everything's going to be a terrorist action, and it's just the excuse for the government to run our lives.
02:35:37.000Well, there's the next step, and when you go to the Gulag Acapulago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn and you start looking at it, we're seeing a blueprint that was done there happening here now.
02:35:47.000The next step is going to be terrorizing the population so badly that we're afraid to leave our houses.
02:36:24.000We're not Cuba, and the key is we're being more vocal, we're being more active, more people are waking up.
02:36:30.000You talk about how you go to the deer camp and ten years ago two cops out of thirty knew, now almost all of you know.
02:36:36.000Don't you see it that we have a good chance if folks are active of standing up and not being cowed into submission and defeating this?
02:36:44.000I think it's happening more and more every day, but it only happens because we keep gas in our tanks.
02:36:50.000You know, the day we quit talking, the day we quit having these radio shows and publishing these books and doing these videos, and the day we quit doing the seminars and traveling, and just decide, I'm just going to pass the torch on to somebody else, I'm going to kick back in my lawn chair.
02:37:04.000Yeah, folks, they spend a lot of time figuring out how to counter real patriots.
02:38:40.000I put my head on a chopping block all the time.
02:38:42.000You know, I... Yeah, Carl, in Vietnam, when you were out there as a sniper, I mean, I mean, it's not, you know, the general's going to save me back in the command bunker.
02:38:57.000We need the people on the street to educate the guy standing next to them.
02:39:01.000Well look, ten years ago I was in college here and how evil America was, and I got sick of hearing their anti-gun, anti-family garbage, and I got on this path.
02:39:09.000You, you know, fifteen, twenty years ago began investigating it.
02:39:17.000There are people more articulate, more intelligent, with more resources than us.
02:39:22.000And I'm telling you, if you don't get involved, folks, we're going to lose it all.
02:39:26.000The globalists are the sickest, most ruthless Synthesis of wickedness I have ever even tried to study or imagine and it's their nature and you better stop being naive and you better admit that there is a devil because that's the devil's biggest trick is convincing the world he didn't exist.
02:39:44.000That's how Ted Bundy got women in that Volkswagen.
02:39:48.000There's two kinds of people in the world folks and that's meat eaters and grass eaters and you've got to figure out which one you are because the meat eaters eat the grass eaters.
02:39:55.000And there's two types of birds, eagles and ostriches.
02:39:58.000And if you're not an eagle, you've got your head in the sand and somebody's going to come along and tick what's sticking up.
02:40:29.000Yeah, I think he's a wonderful speaker.
02:40:32.000And Alex, if you could ever speak with him on your show, I'm sure we'd all be delighted to hear it.
02:40:39.000I'd like to thank you, Alex, for bringing up that commercial that ran a few years ago with the guy in the overcoat filling his pockets and walking out and being stopped to have his receipt handed to him.
02:40:51.000And I appreciate you reminding me of that.
02:40:53.000Well, that's what the self-checkout is with the RFID.
02:40:57.000It's admitted to get rid of all the checkers.
02:40:59.000And then, like you said, they weren't selling anything except that they're putting forth this image of things to come.
02:41:07.000Alex, the one thing I wanted to ask you, my dad, his name was David Waters, and he was from Austin, Texas, where you're at.
02:41:15.000And he killed Madeleine Marie O'Hare, and I've read as much as I could about that case, and is there anything that I should know that maybe you'd be privy to from being from that area?
02:41:24.000Because I know it was covered more thoroughly in Austin.
02:41:27.000You're going to have to stay there, Darren, because I'll talk to you on the other side.
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02:44:50.000I'll try to sift through and find it and get in touch with you.
02:44:53.000But, I mean, the whole Madeleine Marie O'Hair case and how she was supposedly killed and then all that investigation went along, I don't know what to make of it.
02:45:25.000It struck me as strange that a perfectly healthy man would just suddenly... Yeah, that whole case was, they were out there at that ranch for months.