On this 25th of August 2003 edition of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones is on the radio countering John Ashcroft's latest lies about the Patriot Act and the Victory Act, and Judge Roy Moore in Alabama is in danger of being kicked off the bench. Meanwhile, the Associated Press is gearing up for a massive protest against the Ashcroft Patriot Act.
00:00:44.000On this 25th of August 2003 edition, I was on the radio this morning out west where Ashcroft is out telling more and larger lies about the Patriot Act 1 and 2 and the Victory Act.
00:01:01.000I was on local talk radio stations countering the chief liar of the Justice Department.
00:01:12.000And coming up in the second hour, we're going to have Tim Barrons on from KJSL Radio to play a clip, long clip, by long, about five minutes long, of John Ashcroft on national television lying about Patriot Act 1, 2, and now 3 with the Victory Act.
00:01:34.000And so we're going to play the clip, then we're going to go through and cut it to pieces and expose the particular lies of Attorney General John Ashcroft with Tim Behrens in the next hour.
00:01:46.000In this hour, I want to talk about Judge Roy Moore, Alabama.
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00:09:04.000In the next hour I do have Tim Barrons from 6.30am KJSL in St. Louis.
00:09:12.000Louis, Missouri, a station that during the day covers four states, but only 50 times.
00:09:19.000He's coming on the show to play this clip of Ashcroft.
00:09:26.000I mean, everything he says is a total lie.
00:09:28.000We're going to air it in the next hour and then analyze it, break it apart, here on the air with Tim Barron, who's a great talk show host and patriot in his own right.
00:09:39.000Now, this morning I was on K-Talk, a great station in Salt Lake City, Utah.
00:09:49.000Talking about how the conservatives are there in mass protesting against the unpatriotic Patriot Act.
00:09:57.000And here's the headline out of the Associated Press.
00:10:02.000Protesters gearing up for Ashcroft's Patriot Act tour.
00:10:08.000And it says civil liberties advocates are organizing protests to greet U.S.
00:10:11.000Attorney General John Ashcroft when he arrives in Utah on Monday to speak to local police And prosecutors about the USA Patriot Act.
00:10:19.000The article goes on to report that Attorney General John Ashcroft's visit Monday is expected to draw protests.
00:10:27.000Ashcroft's hitting 18 cities in three weeks to gain support for the Patriot Act.
00:10:31.000His visit is not open to the public, but it'll bring out many who strongly oppose the act.
00:10:37.000Now folks, we have the article from last week where they have staged town halls with government employees and then cops behind Ashcroft who've been ordered to salute him.
00:10:47.000And then the news shows it as if these are town halls and everyone loves it.
00:11:45.000The people are very emotional about this issue.
00:11:52.000I think it's disgusting and very pathetic that we need The Attorney General of the United States to come out here spending taxpayer dollars to spread propaganda and to attempt to brainwash local law enforcement into supporting this
00:13:19.000And this morning, another report came out that there's been over a hundred different uh... governmental jurisdiction across the country that
00:13:28.000have come out officially in opposition to the patriot act
00:13:32.000when was the last time that ever occurred, Alex?
00:13:35.000it's now three states and over four hundred cities The news continues to report old numbers of two states and 140 cities and towns.
00:13:43.000Well, maybe that's where I got that because it was on a CBS affiliate that I heard that from, so... Well, they're definitely... Now, Sheriff Mack, you're out there in the crowd right now?
00:14:47.000These are just common, ordinary, everyday Americans that are out here protesting this unconstitutional tyranny that is very akin to King Edward the Longshanks.
00:15:04.000Well, Sheriff Mack, I know it's been a long journey from you from patrol officer to sheriff to patriot leader, but It is heartening to see this massive response against Ashcroft.
00:15:16.000What do you think about the nature of the staged town hall meetings, which is now coming out that it's staged?
00:15:23.000Well, you know, that's typical federal government engineering and manufacturing.
00:15:29.000I mean, they have, they're the best at that.
00:15:32.000You know, it's all, it's all wag the dog type engineering.
00:15:39.000And it shouldn't surprise anybody that that's what's going on.
00:15:43.000And, uh, you know, Iscroft is a very good little boy for the, uh, Jeanne Bush administration.
00:16:26.000No, there's not any part of it that is.
00:16:28.000It's simply a fulfillment of the warrants Ben Franklin, who said not to ever surrender freedom for supposed security.
00:16:40.000And that's exactly what we've been doing ever since 9-11, which adds a great deal to the theories and the conjecture that the federal government Well, Sheriff Mack, I've got the article here.
00:17:13.000And this is on PrisonPlanet.com being posted on InfoWars.com right now.
00:17:17.000In India, that Musarraf and the Bushes met and decided not to capture Bin Laden so they could keep this thing going on and on, quote, in the name of not destabilizing Pakistan.
00:17:29.000Why aren't they after Bin Laden anymore?
00:17:32.000Well, you see, he's an old family friend and they just can't destroy this wonderful relationship they have going on of mutt and jiff, cat and mouse.
00:17:42.000And Bush knows that the more he stays on top of that, the more his popularity will stay intact.
00:17:53.000So his business partner, Bin Laden, is a great boogeyman?
00:18:00.000And I think it would hurt him if they actually were able to put an end to all of this.
00:18:05.000But, you know, when you have Bush pushing Uh, the Attorney General of the country to propagandize and to brainwash local law enforcement and to try to get their support for this act.
00:18:18.000Uh, you know something's wrong and you have to go much deeper than what you're seeing on the surface.
00:18:24.000Now, Sheriff Mack, his Imperial shuttle has landed.
00:18:29.000How long until he's coming into his hotel or his speech?
00:18:33.000Can you give us the itinerary for Salt Lake City?
00:18:37.000Yeah, well I talked to a member of the media who is about the only group here that knows the exact schedule and he said that Ashcroft is supposed to be inside the Little America Motel At 1045, which is going to be just about 25 minutes from now.
00:18:56.000And you're there protesting and demonstrating right now?
00:19:00.000Oh yes, and there's lots of signs all over the place.
00:19:05.000Most of them are like, the Patriot Act is unpatriotic.
00:19:09.000Another guy has sacrificing liberty for security is a fool's bargain.
00:19:13.000which I just mentioned to you a little while ago. Well Sheriff Mack, I want to really, I appreciate
00:19:19.000you calling into the show. Can you at say 10 35 or 10 Let's do that.
00:19:24.000call back in about 10 minutes we can continue this discussion on air yeah
00:19:29.000when Ashcroft drives by we can all hear the response of the crowd okay yeah
00:19:35.000let's do that I'll have my assistant here Andy make sure that he keeps that
00:19:41.000schedule with you well I want to thank Andy for all he's done as well getting
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00:24:18.000Our one-month teacher, Vice Royce Leggetts, is now out on the West Coast, there in the mountainous regions, trying to sell the good conservative people of Utah and Idaho on tyranny and on enslavement.
00:24:37.000And we're going to be getting into the Patriot Act II and Victory Act and Ashcroft's big propaganda tour in the next hour with Tim Behrens from KJSL in St.
00:24:48.000And we'll talk about this staged whirlwind tour.
00:24:52.000And Ashcroft, some cars just pulled into the hotel there, but they don't think that's it.
00:24:56.000We've got folks there on scene that will give us more information as it develops.
00:24:59.000And I've just got a bunch of other news we're going to be getting to.
00:25:01.000I already mentioned the news article Uh, reporting here, this is out of major Indian papers, confirmed information that the Pakistan government and the U.S.
00:25:11.000government ensured that bin Laden was not captured.
00:25:15.000And they claim when they got caught doing this, oh, cause that would stir up the Muslims.
00:25:37.000We've got people from the ACLU, Libertarians, Conservative Republicans, people with signs.
00:25:43.000We had some folks from the SWAT team show up with video cameras.
00:25:47.000I'm sure they were videotaping all of us for their face recognition software so they'll know when to come and get us.
00:25:53.000To protest their tyranny that they say isn't taking place, the SWAT team showed up?
00:25:58.000We had, I saw four officers, sergeants from the Salt Lake City Police Department in full tack gear with a gas mask hanging around their neck in their little pouches.
00:26:08.000One of them had a camcorder and he was going through the crowd videotaping some of the more radical looking protesters.
00:26:45.000Well, God bless you and God bless K-Talk out there for doing a great job.
00:26:49.000And again, I've been on a lot of shows this morning in different areas on Ashcroft's itinerary.
00:26:53.000What do you think of him not allowing the public into the so-called town halls they're broadcasting on regional TV?
00:26:59.000Well, I guess it's private property and the hotel has the right to allow who they will.
00:27:03.000But personally, I find it unsavory and I wonder what Harry Ashcroft has to hide from the people.
00:27:10.000But they've said that his town halls are not open to the public.
00:27:13.000These have been, and are going to be, staged events with fake questions, government employees.
00:27:19.000Folks, that's like the Running Man or something.
00:27:23.000Oh yes sir, if the mainstream media would have broadcast these protesters out here, maybe more people would wake up and investigate Ashcroft's lies to the American people.
00:27:34.000But as you said, it's going to be a staged event.
00:27:36.000He's wrapped himself in a flag and surrounded himself with local law enforcement.
00:27:41.000And my question is how many of these law enforcement came voluntarily and how many of them ordered to come here today?
00:27:45.000Well, they admit they were under federal funding.
00:27:48.000That was in the AP last week to show up, to salute him, to give this staged view.
00:27:52.000And now you've got goons in the combat boots and the Kurtzel helmets stalking you.
00:27:59.000You're just lucky they're not wearing the black ski mask.
00:29:12.000Went up there with a shotgun and killed him.
00:29:15.000I don't understand all this cowardice by police.
00:29:19.000I've heard a lot of cops making excuses for the cops at Columbine, and I don't know how you do that.
00:29:24.000Sitting there while people bleed to death for four hours.
00:29:26.000But notice in Chicago, they got a total gun ban on handguns.
00:29:30.000This guy was a convicted felon, aggravated felon.
00:29:34.000He was a little gang member punk, and he was causing problems at work, so they fired him.
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00:30:32.000remember that a few months ago we posted the bill on info wars dot com
00:30:47.000that a few months ago senator menace that's his name the head of the judiciary
00:30:50.000committee in oregon tried to pass a law that if one person blocks
00:30:54.000traffic the entire protest it's life in prison in a forced labor camp
00:30:58.000It actually said labor camp, forest labor camp, life in prison.
00:31:03.000Having a gun on your possession without committing a crime, life in prison and a labor camp.
00:31:09.000Swapping music on the internet, life in a forced labor camp.
00:31:14.000States are passing similar laws all over the place that if you sue a public official, prison time.
00:31:22.000They try to tell these folks, you can't protest without a permit, you gotta pay.
00:31:27.000Well, that's for having a parade where you block traffic, folks.
00:31:31.000You don't need a permit to protest or demonstrate.
00:31:33.000There's a whole bunch of federal and state rulings.
00:31:35.000But again, these cops would love nothing more than to beat these people over the head like they've done in many other cities.
00:31:41.000They'd love nothing more than to take your guns, take your houses, take your wives, put you in their prisons, and make you their slaves.
00:31:49.000There's more criminals in law enforcement than there are outside of law enforcement, on average.
00:31:54.000And I'm tired of them there, uh, protecting Ashcroft like somebody was going to do something to this little low-level... this, uh, this nobody.
00:32:06.000Uh, let's go back to Bob there in Salt Lake City, or Bo, excuse me, in Salt Lake City, who just walked over.
00:33:22.000You say the Führer is actually going to drive by?
00:33:24.000I understand that someone said that he's going to make some kind of appearance.
00:33:29.000And so we're moving our protest... Oh, wait, wait.
00:33:32.000Here in the free country, you're on the public street, on the sidewalk, but the cops are...
00:33:37.000What are they, walking towards you with their gloves right now?
00:33:40.000No, no sir, I haven't seen any police officers out right now, but I'm on the north end of the hotel.
00:33:46.000You just said that you were just talking to someone, you said they were wearing black helmets and everything.
00:33:50.000No, no, no, not black helmets, they're wearing their, the rest of their tactical gear though, their large load-bearing vests with all their gizmos attached to them, large white stripes to police, you know?
00:34:06.000I'm moving over to the west side of the building.
00:34:10.000So are the police telling you to do that?
00:34:13.000The protest is moving voluntarily because we're under the impression, oh we've been told, that Ashcroft is going to make some kind of appearance.
00:34:21.000So he's going to come out and address you, huh?
00:34:33.000I mean, we've been seeing him all over the news, all over regional news, national news, saying Patriot Act doesn't take your rights, saying Patriot Act 2 is needed.
00:34:42.000This guy said there was no Patriot Act 2, and now his victory act, the possession of one marijuana cigarette, life in prison.
00:34:51.000So this is how you stop the terrorist when it's the government shipping it in.
00:34:59.000What type of lies are you expecting, Bob?
00:35:03.000I'm expecting the same old rhetoric, Mr. Jones.
00:35:09.000If you don't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
00:35:15.000You know, I win our compliance to the Patriot Act by reminding us that we have nothing to fear because we're not yet domestic terrorists.
00:35:23.000But then again, the definition of terrorism is any action that endangers human life that's a violation of any federal or state law.
00:35:29.000And the Justice Department in the Washington Times, by Frank J. Murray, headline titled, Patriot Act casts wide net.
00:35:35.000They have the actual quotes before Congress of the spokesman for the Justice Department saying it will be used in all crimes, all misdemeanors, against all citizens in non-terror related cases.
00:35:47.000Cases that have nothing to do with terror.
00:35:48.000And that's the reason that we're having this protest today.
00:35:51.000Honestly, Mr. Jones, I don't think that we can influence Heinrich Himmler's own self at all, but hopefully we can influence some of these cars that pass by.
00:36:01.000We've been getting some good support, and I hope that these people will do a little more investigation on their own.
00:36:50.000Just like in Russia or Germany, they're gonna have a staged town hall meeting, folks.
00:36:57.000A staged people... Think about how that's tyranny right there!
00:37:03.000My honest concern is that this might, this protest, or maybe the one in Boise might turn out to be another Reichstag fire, you know?
00:37:11.000I'm afraid that some rabble-riders might show up and give the media an excuse to cover it and say those that do oppose the Patriot Act are terrorists.
00:37:22.000Oh, you mean have a provocateur action where some Klan guy shows up and all the cameras show him?
00:38:05.000Sir, we need you and Sheriff, or Sheriff Max to come to Arkansas and run for Governor.
00:38:11.000Well, they're putting in the electronic touch screens that they admit were fraud based, so I don't know about that.
00:38:17.000What I called for, is this Justice Brown in Alabama?
00:38:24.000I don't know if you saw his news clips where he was on the news, but I watched them and they're all, uh, when he says something, you know, he doesn't, he doesn't make it clear and plain.
00:38:34.000Like, for instance, he said, uh, uh, he is, um, not going to, um, uh, oh Lord, what was he saying?
00:40:57.000I mean, I think it's important to question, but I see evidence and good fruits in Judge Roy Moore.
00:41:04.000Back to Sheriff Richard Mack there, outside the Little America Hotel in Salt Lake City, where people across the political spectrum are protesting the liar, the would-be destroyer of America, John Ashcroft.
00:41:28.000The activity outside is getting a little bit busier.
00:41:33.000Alex, knowing Executive Protection, like I know Executive Protection and the law enforcement community, they've already sneaked him in.
00:41:44.000I saw three different Of the black Suburbans, you know, the black Suburbans with the darkened glass, and I'm pretty sure he came in one of those in the back door.
00:41:56.000There was another decoy that was in a limousine that was escorted by three or four different law enforcement vehicles, and I believe he is already in the hotel.
00:42:07.000I don't believe we're going to be able to yell at him as he goes in, and I think law enforcement purposely He's loved so much as a gun grabbing, open border promoting, church seizing, anti-10 commandment devil.
00:42:27.000He's loved so much that they have to sneak him in.
00:42:32.000Uh, Sheriff Mack, I hear the media is pretty much ignoring you guys.
00:44:25.000Why is it the media calling him on his lying?
00:44:27.000Sheriff Mac, you've got to demand you call him on his lies!
00:44:32.000Yeah, well that's true, and Alex, when you consider the fact that this is all about the Constitution, if you don't have a media that has ever read the Constitution, how are they ever going to know how to report on these types of pertinent freedom issues?
00:45:13.000You know, this really is one of the last ditch efforts from the federal government, Alex.
00:45:21.000If we don't stand now, and if we don't do more than just talk, then we're going to lose.
00:45:27.000Well, it shows how desperate they are, Sheriff Mack, that he's having to do this road show to take his lie on the road.
00:45:35.000What does that say about the forces of freedom, the anti-terror forces of the Patriots?
00:45:42.000Well, it serves a great deal, and the Attorney General of the United States is out propagandizing to support unconstitutional acts that are destroying the Second Amendment, that destroy the entire Bill of Rights, except maybe for the third, where it talks about quartering troops.
00:45:58.000Other than that, it's a complete destruction of the Bill of Rights and everything the Founding Fathers stood for.
00:46:28.000Well, Sheriff Mack, what's his itinerary now?
00:46:31.000He's supposed to have a staged town hall meeting that the public's not allowed into, where government bureaucrats sit in the crowd and cops sit behind him for staged events.
00:46:54.000I was getting reprimanded by a local officer because I wasn't standing on the curb.
00:47:01.000Oh, you were being... Well, what did he say to you?
00:47:04.000He was just telling me to get back and I got back and then he came up to me and told me to get farther back which was exactly six inches different from where I was before.
00:47:14.000So they're basically like attack dogs making sure you stand right where they say and then there's an added pleasure after you submit re-smearing your face in it.
00:47:26.000Well, yeah, I think he was hoping to get you some footage for your next police state video.
00:47:32.000Well, I'm begging folks to send me all this footage.
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00:52:38.000But the ones they have on these particular duties or details get into this mindless group think, Sheriff Mack, how are the police behaving?
00:52:46.000I mean, I've seen them where you submit to them, then they come after you again.
00:53:55.000But then, I would say for the most part that the officers have behaved themselves pretty well.
00:54:02.000Well yeah, in Portland, they ran up and sprayed babies in baby carriages, admittedly, and the head cop was seen on tape saying, attack the media!
00:54:46.000When is he going to have his stage town hall meeting?
00:54:48.000Well, he's having a meeting right now with law enforcement.
00:54:53.000The meeting he is having is not with the public.
00:54:57.000An elite group of law enforcement officials.
00:55:00.000Oh, that sounds... that sounds... the executive branch comes into a city and meets with law enforcement officials, not the other elected officials?
00:55:12.000No, this is not public officials or elected officials.
00:55:16.000It's just the law enforcement community And of course, that's who they want on their side.
00:55:22.000They want all the Nuremberg officers jumping on board.
00:55:27.000Now, is the media allowed in this meeting?
00:56:01.000We had one guy that was out on the road and a cop just came by and did his siren at him.
00:56:07.000And he jumped out of the road and that ended that.
00:56:11.000Oh good, I'm glad he jumped quick when the folks in Cuba... What would we do if we didn't have all these cops here taking care of us, Alex?
00:56:19.000Well, hey, don't put you in a FEMA camp.
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00:57:18.000I'm going to try to get out with the binoculars.
00:57:20.000Well, my dad with the telescope tonight, it's been kind of cloudy the last few days.
00:57:25.000I haven't been able to do it, but that's something you might want to do.
00:57:27.000Just a side issue, kind of interesting.
00:57:29.000It certainly is a lot bigger than I've ever seen it in my short life.
00:57:32.000It looks like it's a lot bigger than Jupiter appears normally.
00:57:36.000Normally, Mars is a tiny red dot or pink dot.
00:57:40.000Just as an interesting side note, I was looking at my atomic clock and it said 826.
00:57:46.000And I was thinking, wow, interesting little tidbit.
00:57:51.000Colonel Craig Roberts is coming up here in about five minutes, and I really am going to throw news articles out at him and get his response and his take on him.
00:58:00.000Right now, let's go to Eric in Connecticut.
00:58:07.000You know, I was listening over the weekend to Matt Drudge, Sunday night, and he was actually talking about The RFID tracker chips in the cars in England.
00:58:16.000And I thought to myself, wow, it's actually interesting that a neocon is finally coming to the party, albeit very late.
00:58:23.000But I wanted to actually make a request.
00:58:25.000You have mentioned earlier that you were in the line for a contract for a very lucrative amount of money if you would give up the crusade quote-unquote and there are a lot of listeners out there myself included who basically thought guys like Limbaugh and Hannity and these other people were the bee's knees and I mean I hungrily listened to Limbaugh for years and years and years and finally September 11th happened and I saw your video 9-11 the road to tyranny and I have to be honest when I first saw it I kind of thought hmm
00:58:58.000A lot of this stuff's a little off the beam, but then I researched it.
00:59:34.000Limbaugh's so trusted as a neocon Judas goat that he's left alone probably.
00:59:40.000But he goes to all the top globalist meetings and is in with them.
00:59:45.000A Hannity or the ilk, look sir, I mean, it's come out that the talk show hosts get orders.
00:59:56.000I've talked to a lot of other talk show hosts that just stay where they're at and are being threatened to be fired because they're not worshipping the New World Order.
01:00:03.000They've got a few token people, but I mean, folks want me to... These meetings I had now five years ago, five years ago, and you know, I've talked to other groups too, and they've always approached to me.
01:00:17.000I mean, I told them it was in confidence, and I had to even go into these discussions, had to sign non-disclosure agreements, and frankly, I wouldn't talk about it even if I hadn't, because, you know, I don't go into a meeting and then, you know, give details of it.
01:00:32.000But no, I mean, this is how they operate.
01:00:34.000They traffic in the souls of men, as the Bible says, and I was told point blank, Those that haven't been told about this, that you want to be on this crusade, or do you want to be a star?
01:00:47.000And we'll pay a million bucks, which is Trump changed these people.
01:00:55.000I mean, I talked to the local radio station in my area, and I guess they're owned by, I don't know if it's Clear Channel or who, and I talked to the local guy, it's WSUB out of Groton, and I said, look, I said, there's a good show on Alex Jones out of Austin, Texas.
01:01:08.000You might want to think about running his show.
01:01:10.000And I talked with him briefly on the phone, and I got sort of a ho-hummer response, and I never really heard anything from him again.
01:01:16.000And I think that they're owned by a larger conglomerate.
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01:05:24.000Joining us is best-selling author, Army Colonel, he was a Marine Corps Sniper in Vietnam, Craig Roberts.
01:05:30.000He's an expert on the New World Order.
01:05:32.000And we had about an hour-long conversation last night, it'll probably go longer than this interview, on the phone about the New World Order and what it's doing right now.
01:05:43.000Craig, good to have you back on the show.
01:06:18.000That means we'll never see an end to terror.
01:06:21.000As a military man, in the Marines in Vietnam, then in the Army, and in Army Intelligence, and as a police officer, and as an expert on the New World Order, Address torture, Camp X-Ray, the Patriot Act, and everything we see happening.
01:06:33.000Well, you know, Alex, it's really amazing how much history swings its pendulum every 20 years or 30 years or so.
01:06:42.000Because if we go back in time, look at the French when they set up Devil's Island off the coast of South America.
01:06:48.000And back in the 1800s and even after the turn of the century up into the 1920s or 30s, they were still using an island as far away as they could get from home so that they could ship people off there and relatives wouldn't have any contact with them, you couldn't check on them, you didn't know what happened to them, and there was no way for them to escape and get home.
01:07:07.000Now we see something like this popping up at Guantanamo, that becomes extremely chilling In its own right, for taking anybody except military prisoners, and the problem I've got with this as a police officer, is what is a military prisoner now, under all these new laws that they've just generated out of thin air, under this Homeland Defense Act and all this other nonsense that they've come up with, with this super overreaction, with a giant codified set of statutes waiting to be passed prior to 9-11.
01:07:35.000So we get this Blurring between the jurisdiction of the civilian law enforcement and the jurisdiction of the military and with the federal government bridging the gap with a set of laws that no one read.
01:07:49.000And all of a sudden, what is a military prisoner?
01:07:52.000You can be one now, I can be one, because all they have to do is change your designation, change your status from one into terrorist.
01:08:00.000Whatever it is, all they have to do is say, well you're a terrorist, you're a cyber terrorist, you're a propaganda terrorist, you're a radio terrorist.
01:08:40.000They could go after Roy Moore for religious terrorism, or why can't they go after the judge that's making him move the Ten Commandments for religious terrorism?
01:08:58.000treaty they're trying to pass that says that if you incite someone, now you don't even have to say fire in a theater or go kill this person, now it's you incited it and that's going to be terrorism.
01:09:10.000Well, you know, this goes back to the, you know, we've passed laws through the years that should have never been on the books.
01:09:16.000One of them is conspiracy before the fact.
01:09:19.000In other words, two or more people get together and they talk about a crime.
01:09:23.000Now, they may decide later on that none of them is going to do it.
01:09:26.000You know, you and I decide we're going to go rob the local liquor store, then all of a sudden we say, nah, we don't want to do that because we don't want to go to jail.
01:09:32.000But somebody overheard us talking about it, okay?
01:09:36.000There are some states where you can be arrested for that on a felony, for criminal conspiracy to plan a crime.
01:09:41.000Well, now there are states who draw a picture of a gun saying that was a premeditated, it's thought crime.
01:09:48.000Yeah, and that's where we're getting right now is we're going to 1984, To the thought crimes and the thought police.
01:09:56.000We never thought it would happen in this country.
01:09:59.000The Constitution has provisions in there specifically to protect us against this and they just throw it out the window.
01:10:05.000What we found out is there are four branches of government.
01:10:08.000There's the executive, the legislative, the judicial, and the bureaucracy.
01:10:12.000The bureaucracy goes on forever and it's this giant amoeba that eats its young.
01:10:16.000And what it does is it creates laws, regulations, and sub-institutions.
01:10:21.000Now, a sub-institution is, okay, they create Homeland Defense.
01:10:24.000Then Homeland Defense turns around and if they get enough money in the budget, they create institutions under them that don't fall under anybody else's purview, and then they give them Power to go out and do things by regulation or by rules such as the EPA, such as the Department of the Interior.
01:10:39.000That's what's so scary about this biggest federal agency, one in twelve employees under it, the others controlled by it, and all the big universities are now shifting to make a large portion of their curriculum to be homeland security.
01:10:52.000You know now they're going to list everything as terrorism.
01:10:55.000Now they've officially admitted it in the Victory Act.
01:10:57.000It was in the first Patriot Act under Section 802.
01:11:00.000I mean, they're gonna supply the terror, period, to legitimize this giant bureaucracy.
01:11:06.000And it's no different than what's happened all the way back to Roman times and Greek times.
01:11:11.000All you have to do is inflame the minds of the general population with an event, And then capitalize upon that by saying, we're here to save you, and this is how we're going to have to do it.
01:11:20.000And yes, you're going to have to lose a little bit of liberty, a little bit of freedom, but it's for your own good, it's for your own security, and that's exactly what they're doing now, and they've been doing it for the last couple of years.
01:11:28.000And the problem is, our public school system has thrown all of that history out the window a long time ago, so the younger generations don't know about it.
01:11:36.000And if guys like you and me don't educate people on this, The younger generation who's going to replace us some day is going to go right along with it like a malleable clay.
01:11:50.000If you would just tell friends and family about this show, about Craig's books, about my books, about my films, about our websites, riflewarrior.com, infowars.com, if you would help us and really get out there Uh, and, and, and try to recruit people to reality to come out of this matrix-like system.
01:12:10.000If you don't make it a big focus of your life, folks, you're gonna lose liberty, you're gonna lose freedom.
01:12:15.000And the Founding Fathers said this, they said, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
01:12:19.000And this whole line that Ashcroft has been saying, you know, give your liberty up to protect liberty.
01:12:24.000I mean, that's an oxymoron, or give your liberty up for security.
01:12:28.000Colonel, do we get security out of giving up liberty?
01:12:53.000So you have to be able to protect yourself and your family.
01:12:56.000Then your friends and neighbors have to join together so you can protect your community.
01:13:00.000We do that with our local police, our local volunteer services.
01:13:03.000Then we have to worry about protecting our state because each state is an individual
01:13:08.000entity and we do that with the state police, the National Guard and so on.
01:13:12.000Then we worry about protecting the country, but since we can't, you and I can't really do anything about it, we pay the government to do it for us.
01:13:19.000We hire an army with our tax money, and they are supposed to protect our borders first.
01:13:24.000That is first and primary to protect the borders.
01:13:27.000You want Homeland Defense, then stop the immigration problem by putting troops on the borders.
01:13:49.000That's where we need the military, but instead we send them to 272 places all over the world, and in places we never heard of or care about.
01:13:56.000Bosnia, Herzegovina, Kosovo... By the way, Craig, they're covering up the numbers of dead.
01:14:04.000I mean, there are reputable reports that the numbers of dead are a lot higher.
01:14:09.000Well, I'd have to be real careful in that area, because I have been in investigations on that before, where you have agent provocateurs saying they lost 40 people that day, and come to find out they lost 4, and somebody wanted to add a zero.
01:14:26.000And here's the problem we've got, is we've got families who are going to be missing loved ones, and they're going to report this someplace along the line.
01:14:35.000But, you know, we can't discredit it either, because here's the fact.
01:14:39.000We're not getting timely information, say, from Iraq.
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01:21:35.000armed forces being utilized to take these areas, We have significantly taken a section of the Middle East and left one part out, and that is Iran.
01:21:48.000Because Iran sits right in the middle of all those places.
01:21:52.000We started at the East, we went to the North, we went to the West, and we already had the South, which is the Persian Gulf.
01:21:57.000It's a pond for one of the American fleets.
01:22:14.000Now, that a few months ago, during the Iraq War, at the end of it, that the CIA got the students going.
01:22:21.000Oh yeah, and let's go back to Mosaddeh.
01:22:25.000If people get my book, The Medusafile, and go into the original seizure of Iran, we just sent a handful of CIA agents in, they stirred up a revolution, and they overthrew a guy named Mosaddeh, who was the head of Iran at the time, and he did it for a conglomerate of American interest plus British Petroleum.
01:22:42.000British Petroleum had a huge interest in the place, but we wanted the oil and we wanted
01:22:46.000to keep control of it over British Petroleum, who had it at the time, and by throwing out
01:22:56.000And by the way, one of the Shah's captains who ran tortures is a Chalibi.
01:23:02.000This guy is convicted of stealing $300 million from the ally, the Jordanians.
01:23:07.000He's now setting up his own little mafia organization, uh, there in Baghdad.
01:23:11.000And when the Jordanians asked for him to be released, uh, uh, the, uh, Interpol said no.
01:23:17.000Well, you know, if you back up again and look at what happened as soon as the Shah got in, well, he had to have a secret police himself, so he set up the Savak.
01:23:37.000See, you could do that to take care, because you wanted the Shah to stay in there because you had the Russians up north, and we wanted the Iranian border well secured against the Russians.
01:23:44.000And so American corporations went in and built giant radar stations and checkpoints and stuff all along the Iranian border.
01:23:51.000And then we had, of course, all the arms deals and so on that went on over there.
01:23:57.000But eventually, they had to do away with the Shah.
01:24:03.000But we had the revolution that happened during the Carter regime.
01:24:07.000And out goes the Shah, in comes the Ayatollahs, in comes the very people who subjugate the citizenry of Iran under a thumb of tyranny like they've never seen before.
01:24:19.000Now when you do that, what you do is you compress a political spring.
01:24:23.000You can only push it so far before that spring is going to spring back at you.
01:24:29.000A lot of times they have controlled springs.
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01:27:28.000We're about to go to Dan and Bob and Kevin and others that are patiently holding and I hope that Colonel Roberts can stay with us into the next hour as well.
01:27:37.000I want to, in a few minutes, talk to Colonel Roberts about an Associated Press article, an AFP article, several others, headline, Idealistic Philippine Rebellion Leaders Claim Moral Victory, where it turns out that you had U.S.
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01:28:11.000We're going to get Colonel Roberts' response and analysis of it.
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01:33:15.000I've read One Shot One Kill, Medusafile, Sniper Looks at Dealey Plaza, but Craig, Colonel, Before we get into this article here out of AFP and the Associated Press about the Philippine military not going along with government-sponsored terror, you talk about how ten years ago you'd go deer hunting and there'd be thirty guys and maybe two of you knew about the New World Order.
01:33:38.000You say now the majority know about it or are concerned.
01:33:59.000And just in a nutshell, what is the New World Order master plan?
01:34:03.000What would the world look like if the New World Order had all its way?
01:34:07.000Well, they've almost got it right now.
01:34:09.000To answer the last question first, there are certain things that have to be done for the NWO scumbags to have what they want, and they've done most of it.
01:34:20.000Now, one of the things they have to do, of course, is disarm the population.
01:34:25.000The entire world Basically, he's been disarmed with the exception of a few ragtags running around with AK-47s here and there that are totally insignificant, uncontrollable, or in locations that we don't care about anyway.
01:34:36.000But as far as major populations, we've lost Australia, we've lost England, we've lost Europe, and we've lost Canada.
01:34:43.000And we're next, you know, and they're doing everything they can.
01:34:45.000They know they can't just have everybody just stack arms, so what they're doing is they're legislating things away a little bit at a time.
01:34:53.000Now that's, you know, we can go into that in great detail any time you want.
01:34:56.000But the next thing they have to do is they have to destroy faith.
01:35:02.000They have to destroy our belief that we have to answer for what we do in this world.
01:35:08.000And if they can do that, and that's what communists did, they found out that what they had to do is they had to replace God with government.
01:35:15.000And God doesn't take care of you, government does.
01:35:17.000Don't answer to God, but you have to answer to government.
01:35:19.000In fact, we don't even want you talking to God.
01:35:35.000A communist is a socialist with a gun.
01:35:37.000But a socialist will go in and they will legislate out little pieces of your house until you have nothing left but one room.
01:35:47.000And we do that here by taking the Ten Commandments out, by no prayer at ball games, by creating a myth of Yeah, I just read about a city council that would say a prayer.
01:36:05.000We've got to stop putting up with all these socialists.
01:36:08.000Well, what they've done is they've created a myth in our minds, and even some of my friends that know better are starting to say, Uh, separation of church and state.
01:36:16.000I have to keep jumping up and saying, guys, there is no separation of church and state.
01:36:34.000Because once you get up to the globalist level, it matters not if you're Republican or Democrat.
01:36:38.000Well, that's what I keep trying to get through to these neocons, but Craig, Jumping forward here, the police you talk to, you say they're waking up.
01:36:51.000It's some of the people that five years ago that I would talk to, and they'd look at me with this blank stare like, what in the world are you talking about?
01:36:57.000I'm now receiving email from, and they're sending me articles about New World Order activities, and they all have their own agendas.
01:37:04.000They all have their own areas of concern, and you know, a lot of police officers, their big thing is they like to be able to go out and shoot or go hunting.
01:37:11.000They don't want anybody messing with their Second Amendment rights.
01:37:13.000But then other friends I've got in other areas are concerned about the First Amendment rights, and the freedom of religion, and the freedom of speech rights.
01:37:19.000But where before, they said, well, they can't do that.
01:37:53.000And we're also seeing destruction of morals.
01:37:55.000You know, once you destroy religion and you replace God with government and you take away The fact that if you're bad, you're going to go to hell.
01:38:04.000Take that factor out of everything, you know?
01:38:06.000Then we're going to go to destroying our morals, and we do that with... Well, it's moral relativism.
01:38:10.000Well, yeah, we're torturing him, but it's okay, because our government's good.
01:38:14.000Or, yeah, we're taking this farmer's land, but everybody needs it.
01:38:22.000You know, if you can flood the world with pornography and stuff like that, and make it where the kids can get to this stuff, it follows the Rothschild plan.
01:38:30.000And this is the point I was trying to get to.
01:38:32.000If you destroy and rewrite the value system, if you destroy the morals, if you put, you know, homosexuality is a verboten thing to even talk about, and you promote it, and you can do all of these things that have always been bad in the past, but now they're good, and good is bad, Then what we've done is we've taken and reshaped the mind of the people to where they will accept just about anything.
01:39:04.000You're not conservative if you don't take microchips.
01:39:07.000Yeah, and I don't know how in the world anybody can go along with that that has any uh... knowledge of the bible when it got all these christian leaders out saying the chips good now well and and uh... you know they're they're neochristians
01:39:20.000So, you know, there's so many areas we can go in this direction, but if you go to the Kills on my book and get about halfway through it, I go into the Rothschild Plan, it's in 1773, and it said you have to destroy and corrupt the youth of all nations, you have to destroy morals, you have to get rid of God.
01:39:37.000It goes right down the line, and those things came up later as the Ten Planks of Communism, and now they're in this country being implemented by our own Congress, who passes laws without even reading the things.
01:40:41.000Okay, what I got was one of my federal guys, who's really up to speed on all the stuff
01:40:47.000we're talking about, emailed me a radar imagery from the National Oceanic and Space Administration
01:40:55.000or whatever it is, Atmospheric Administration.
01:40:57.000It was taken just before the blackout and it shows a massive EMT burst right over Long
01:41:03.000Island, northern Long Island and southeastern New York.
01:41:07.000To the exclusion of everything else in the country, here's this one giant area that just
01:41:10.000lit up on radar, which happened just right at the beginning of the blackout, which would
01:41:16.000have sent a huge power surge all the way up the grid to Canada and over to the Great Lakes,
01:41:21.000which would have blown transformers and shut down portions of the grid.
01:41:24.000Now, anytime you shut down just portions of the grid, automatically the rest of the grid
01:41:28.000wants to come in and switch in and take over to feed those areas.
01:41:32.000But when you have too many of them, then they in turn shut down because they can't handle the overload.
01:41:37.000And instead of destroying the system and burning up and blowing their own transformers and costing a lot of money, they just go into shutdown mode.
01:42:02.000It could have shut down the same way if you'd have done this over San Francisco or Los Angeles.
01:42:06.000Then you've got, interestingly enough, Alex, you're lucky because you've got the Texas
01:42:10.000The Texas power grid is only Texas and eastern New Mexico, which is a very... Let's see, their answer is link them all up together now so this doesn't happen again when the electricians I've talked to and engineers say that's the last thing you want to do.
01:42:23.000Absolutely the last thing you want to do.
01:42:38.000And I think everybody out there that's listening, if they've got email, they've had, you know, 50 to 200 of these stupid things coming in saying, open the attachment and all that stuff.
01:42:47.000And I'll tell you how to fix that in a minute.
01:42:49.000But the thing about this, we talked about this last night, and who could have written something like this that could shut down the internet email system so effectively for a length of time and then self-destruct?
01:42:59.000The average hacker out here isn't probably going to be able to do it, but the Red Chinese Army, who we sold all kinds of computer secrets to during the Clinton administration, has a... They've had newspaper announcements every year saying, ordering their college students to attack us.
01:43:14.000Right, and they have a cyber warfare division just to try to shut down our computer systems.
01:43:20.000Now, if you can shut down the email system, why can't you write a virus to shut down the computer switching systems?
01:43:25.000They're all interlocked, and it wouldn't be that hard if you could shut down the computers and fool the computers.
01:43:47.000I want to lead up to the Wackenhut contract that Guantanamo Bay But I've been a Christian for over 40 years and only God put me in a position to work at a Wackenhut facility in California.
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01:48:23.000And Wackenhut, you know, is just an offshoot of things like the Pinkertons, where the government hires private thugs to do their bidding, like we've seen in the formation of the West of this nation.
01:48:36.000Dan and California, anything else you wanted to add before we go to Bob, Kevin and others?
01:48:42.000Yeah, the term starts in October and we were given notice that, for any correctional officer, by this coming Friday, to give notice to the warrant if we'd want to go down there.
01:48:54.000But it's limited, they don't allow families, it's just really they want single persons or you'd need both.
01:49:00.000You know sir, this will be a job as a concentration camp guard.
01:49:04.000They are killing people and torturing people to death at that base.
01:50:09.000My video of the takeover, local newscast, Seattle, and it shows the FEMA camp, and they say, standpoint, FEMA camp, we're going to put the protesters in it.
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01:50:37.000Interestingly enough, when I was in Hawaii two years ago, I was told that there is no prisons in Hawaii that keep prisoners that they subcontract with the state of Texas.
01:50:46.000And that you get all the Hawaiian felons down there and Hawaii just pays you.
01:54:23.000So, we'll be discussing this with Colonel Roberts, because he's done a lot of study of the Philippines, interesting things that are happening there.
01:54:29.000And just a bunch of other news reports.
01:54:31.000Right now, let's go back to the calls.
01:55:17.000Well, you can trace that all the way back to Edward Lansdale in the Philippines before the Vietnam War and during the Vietnam War.
01:55:24.000You can trace it down to South America when a lot of the South American dictator's security forces were trained there.
01:55:31.000What happens is they create a school, then all of a sudden there's little tentacles that branch out into other areas and say, oh, by the way, while you're here, let me tell you what else you can do.
01:55:40.000Uh, and then sometimes it just gets out of hand, and I think School of the Americas went that way with a lot of these alleged right-wing dictators that some of them turned out left-wing dictators later on, but that's beside the point.
01:55:52.000Yeah, we saw that back especially in the 60s.
01:55:56.000If you really want to read about some interesting things, look up General Edward Lansdale.
01:56:00.000The guy's the first two- or three-star general that ever surfaced that only had one row of combat ribbons.
01:56:05.000And I don't even think they were combat.
01:56:07.000I think they were for, like, hanging out at the Officer's Club or something.
01:56:11.000He fomented more revolutions than you could shake a stick at.
01:56:14.000He's even been linked to the Kennedy assassination.
01:56:16.000He was involved in the assassination of the Diem brothers over in Vietnam back in about 1962 or 1963.
01:56:25.000And he's one example, but he was highly involved in the Philippines and the formation of the intelligence services and the death squads and the hit squads back in the 1960s.
01:56:36.000And since then, we've never lost a grip on that situation over there.
01:56:44.000The comment I wanted to make was, now we're seeing them talk about torture and stuff in this country, and what's happening is the biblical principle, what you reap, what you sow.
01:56:55.000And also one comment on Guantanamo Bay.
01:56:58.000The reason they're using that down there is the Constitution does not apply because it's out there.
01:57:03.000Well, yeah, they're saying it's under admiralty.
01:57:05.000In fact, they even said that in the Riddlings.
01:57:06.000Well, this isn't military and this isn't civilian.
01:57:10.000This is admiralty under our enemy combatant designation.
01:57:16.000Right, and that's all I have, so God bless you folks.
01:57:22.000That's a great point you made, Colonel, because I meant to say that last hour and never did, that they're doing it there because it's outside the U.S., it's kind of in this territorial jurisdiction.
01:57:33.000Right, and you can go even further because you have to designate the difference between military law and admiralty law.
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02:01:45.000I originally called to talk about the Dallas Police Force, but I'll get to that in a second.
02:01:52.000I guess if your previous caller was going to be the guy turning the ovens on in Guantanamo Bay, I guess my brother is going to be the train driver.
02:02:41.000If this is going to be a civil airline transport contract to haul prisoners in, is there any information in this MPEG file that you've got showing where they're flying from?
02:03:01.000Uh, he lives here in Dallas, in Austin, in Dallas.
02:03:04.000And I know your brother, you know, he's the pilot.
02:03:06.000I don't want to get into too much detail.
02:03:08.000I'm not going to, no, I'm not going to say what airline he flies for or anything.
02:03:10.000But, but, I mean, so it's a big, big business where the Lister's calling in to get the camp jobs at the ovens and then your brother's going to be flying people in.
02:03:19.000I mean, he's basically, being an airline pilot, you're basically a federal employee.
02:03:22.000I mean, uh, you know, you can't rock the boat too much.
02:03:25.000I wanted to say, I've read the Somalia book, the Robert Taz and the One Shot One Kill.
02:03:31.000He is an excellent writer and he's somebody that has credibility from the military that can bridge this gap, you know, where someone would be called a conspiracy nut or whatever and not have any credibility.
02:03:44.000One thing I noticed that, you know, until about a week ago, they kept saying, well, the death toll since hostilities ended in Iraq is at 50.
02:03:52.000We've had 10 killed this week, and today I saw they came out and said it's 138.
02:03:57.000So it's jumped from about 50 to 138 in a weekend.
02:04:00.000Also, all the government websites said all combat activities have ended, and then now they've changed them all, and news articles have all changed to major Colonel, we've confirmed this.
02:04:12.000They're actually going back, not just to government sites now, but newspapers and changing that.
02:04:17.000What does it mean when retroactively newspapers start getting edited?
02:04:24.000If you look at Operation Mockingbird, where the CIA controls the media anyway, they have to be able to go along with the government program because you have to control the minds of the people, and you do that by rewriting history.
02:04:36.000Well, that's right out of the Ministry of Truth in Winston.
02:04:40.000I don't know if you know about this, but in March I filmed a CIA and CFR steering committee
02:05:15.000Kevin shot that footage, uh, there at the, there at the meeting, and it is just chilling, chilling stuff, and he talked about World War IV, then a month later it was on CNN, big headline, Woolsey says we're in World War IV, but, yeah, they sit around and brag with news cameras, That we've got to lie to the people and can't let them know what we're doing.
02:05:41.000That's going to be a historic document.
02:05:43.000Why are they so arrogant, Colonel, that they can just publicly brag in front of ten news cameras that, yeah, we're going to lie to the people and this will never be on the news as they look at the news cameras?
02:05:52.000Well, you know, I think if they think they have a handle on the whole situation, it's not going to be changed now.
02:05:57.000And a lot of them are getting a little bit reckless.
02:06:01.000Which is good, because it shows stupidity on their part, because not all of us are dumb down to the point where we don't see this stuff anymore.
02:06:11.000I think it's human nature that you get cocky and you get overconfident.
02:06:16.000You know, you see it in sports where one team goes out and they've won five games in a row and they know that this team's not going to be a challenge and they get beat because they get overconfident.
02:06:24.000But these people, they start announcing things ahead and a lot of times they'll do that just to see what kind of play they get.
02:06:48.000Colonel Roberts, Anne-Marie Slaughter did a two-hour presentation two nights before this particular meeting, and I've got the handout from it.
02:06:55.000The name of her lecture was A New World Order.
02:06:59.000And they're all just clapping and laughing and patting each other on the back.
02:07:03.000We've just got to get to a point where we can tell people these things and they don't forget when they go to sleep and they go, You know, oh wow, you know, that was weird.
02:07:35.000A black man, there was a complete purge of the upper echelon of the Dallas Police Force, which I mean, you know, maybe it's not such a bad thing since they're probably one of the most corrupt departments in the world.
02:08:00.000Last week, Giuliani and Associates were in town.
02:08:03.000pitching to the city council how they can come in and run the Dallas Police Department like they did in New York and clean it up uh... you know, this also?
02:08:12.000Oh yeah, Giuliani's a definite CIA guy.
02:08:14.000He's going around selling them on the anti-terror, no civil liberties, no freedoms model.
02:08:20.000Colonel, comments on how they're covertly federalizing cities?
02:08:23.000And the FBI is taking charge of the department also.
02:09:27.000They don't know that this is happening.
02:09:30.000There is a national organization of chiefs of police That of major cities that do everything they can to convince mayors to hire very liberal or very socialist or very politically correct New World Order type police chiefs.
02:09:44.000And when you hire a police chief, the reflection of the department is whatever his vision is, so to speak, or whatever his agenda is.
02:09:53.000And I have seen this happen all over the country.
02:09:55.000I've seen it happen in our own department here in Tulsa.
02:09:57.000uh... where they we had a a guy that was in my academy class ended up becoming
02:10:02.000his good guy and I like him but he was very socialist very globalist and he
02:10:06.000became chief of police and the next thing we knew the whole department was uh... was ending up with all kinds
02:10:13.000of decisions that were shoving us into the KGB mentality
02:10:17.000uh... and this is happening in different cities around the country
02:10:20.000Now, when they can't do that, or when something else goes astray, what they do is they say, gee, it's such a disaster, we're going to have to fire this guy, we've got to have help, and we're going to have to go outside the department to get help, and we're going to have to go here, and we're going to have to go there, and they end up bringing in federal authorities to take over in the interim.
02:10:38.000I mean, this has happened in other states as well, especially up north.
02:10:41.000Now, what happens at that point, As you get the FBI that comes in, let's say, and they put their idea of the way this department ought to be run, and what they do is they come in with new policies and procedures, they come in with new... And they say, 50 of your officers are now going to be watching the evil right-wingers.
02:10:59.000Oh yeah, they can create sub-task force in different units and reorganize the whole department into whatever image they want, and at that point it becomes nothing but a clone of the federal government.
02:11:08.000And here's another thing that's happening, we're seeing what's known as cross-deputization and cross-commissioning.
02:11:13.000That means I'm out here on the streets and they call me into squad meeting and say, this is agent so-and-so from the federal government and we're going to now make you a federal officer as well as a city and state officer.
02:11:25.000You are now going to have two commissions so that you can be task-forced to help on joint task forces to deal with drugs or deal with whatever.
02:11:36.000Because once you've done that, once you cross-deputize everybody across the country, you have created a national police force that, above all, is answerable to the Department of Justice.
02:11:44.000And that's what FEMA has on their badges is National Police Force.
02:11:48.000And once you get to answering to the Department of Justice, you answer to whoever the head of the Department of Justice is, which means you answer also to the President of the United States.
02:11:58.000Yeah, all it does is make the police chief the city governor.
02:12:23.000And the feds come in and teach you how to not just shoot some innocent kid in the butt, but here, we'll burn down a church and kill everybody inside and make it look good.
02:12:30.000We'll teach you how to be real professionals.
02:12:33.000Well, the thing that goes beyond that...
02:12:37.000Is what happens when all of a sudden they say, we have a national emergency, you are now operating all as federal agents.
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02:17:34.000Yes sir, I was up there for about three nights and four or five days and I just came back to Mobile to get a break and pass the baton to some other Christians and I wanted to bring you on a little update on what's going on if I may.
02:17:50.000Supreme Court Let me see if I can get everything in order here.
02:17:56.000Chief Justice Roy Moore found out he was suspended by the eight other Supreme Court Justices on CNN News and he was never served and the other eight won't even let him in his office to get his personal items.
02:18:11.000A counter lawsuit has been filed Kelly McGinley and some others, and I believe you know her.
02:18:19.000She has www.retakingamerica.com in Mobile.
02:18:23.000I believe you've been interviewed on her program before in Mobile.
02:18:56.000Thank you, Bush, for appointing all these judges, and this one that's going after more.
02:19:00.000And thank you for Bohemian Grove, and thank you for open borders and gun control, and thank you for being a neocon.
02:19:06.000Let me get comments from Colonel Roberts about this.
02:19:10.000Well, you know, it goes back to what we were talking about in the beginning that they have established a system where they put people on the bench who are going to do everything they can to legislate law from the bench instead of just uphold the law and judge the law.
02:19:23.000What they're doing is they're creating law from the bench.
02:19:25.000Yeah, I mean, they're saying police can run warrantless checkpoints.
02:19:28.000I mean, that's a total violation of the Fourth Amendment.
02:20:37.000I just wanted to bring up something that Colonel Roberts mentioned about the SoBig virus.
02:20:44.000That was going through and it's kind of a red herring there because it's a really simple virus that probably any first year university student that coded I've been working in IT for about eight years and it's it's pretty interesting because if people wanted to get real malicious Uh, you wouldn't even be reading about it.
02:21:04.000It'd be so stealthy that, you know, they would take over your computer and you wouldn't know about it.
02:21:09.000Well, that's the kind of stuff the government's got, and I think Roberts is talking about the scale of it, but go ahead and be specific.
02:21:17.000That the, uh, it's kind of, you know, people shouldn't look at this as, you know, a, uh, you know, a malicious attack by, you know, government or by a, you know, uh, terrorist organization.
02:21:31.000But really more like a kid sitting in his room.
02:21:36.000All I was saying is I've read the Chinese newspapers, not somebody saying the Chinese said it.
02:21:42.000I've read the Chinese newspapers where they, and supposedly our friends folks, where they say we're the big enemy and they order their college students to launch hack attacks on America.
02:21:55.000I think what Craig was saying is that's one of the big culprits of a lot of the mischief we see.
02:22:02.000Yeah, and I can't agree that some kid in high school can do this because I've been in computers for 20 years and I can't do it.
02:22:11.000Yeah, I've been in eight, and I could... Well, that may be.
02:22:13.000You've had a lot of classes on programming stuff, but what I'm saying is it cost us over $10 billion a day and lost business through the internet because of this virus, and the government isn't doing anything about it.
02:22:25.000They're not trying to track down who did it.
02:23:59.000And go ahead, caller, you were raising the point of this virus not originating from some government.
02:24:11.000Yeah, and it definitely kind of takes people's You know, attention away from real issues like what's going on in Alabama, California right now and stuff like that.
02:24:38.000The easiest way to fix it, I would go to Symantec.com and they have a removal tool.
02:24:45.000Go ahead and change the registry settings and kill the virus and wipe it off your hard drive.
02:24:52.000Well, that's if it's on your hard drive.
02:24:53.000The problem is, it's not on my hard drive because I clean it every day and I get over 200 emails a day with this junk on it to open the attachment.
02:25:01.000And this has been going on for two weeks.
02:25:02.000Now, this is coming from... and it also takes my email address and sends it all over the internet making me look like I'm sending it and I have a virus when I don't.
02:26:52.000It's a big French newspaper, news service.
02:26:54.000Disgruntled rebel Philippine troops claimed a moral victory Monday despite being forced to return Dejected to barracks after their failed military uprising in central Manila, the young, battle-tested and idealistic military officers and enlisted men reluctantly agreed to end their 22-hour siege and be court-martialed after the authorities agreed to consider demands for a probe into allegations of military and government corruption.
02:27:23.000We were ready to die, but give up for the sake of our comrades in the military and the interest of the people and the country.
02:27:30.00031-year-old Navy officer Antonio Trinales, the self-styled leader of the group, said, we have already planted the seeds we will just have to bite the bullet and roll with the punches.
02:27:43.000This is our significant contribution to the country.
02:27:46.000Folks, they could get life in prison or executed.
02:27:49.000He said he and his 300-odd men ended their occupation of an upscale apartment and shopping complex in the financial center after intense negotiations with the government, opposition, and military officials.
02:28:03.000In the end, sources close to the negotiations said the key figures of the mutiny, whose average age was 27 years old, were largely influenced by colleagues from their alma mater, the Philippine Military Academy, where they belonged to a class renowned for its brilliance and idealism.
02:28:17.000Armed Forces of the Philippines Chief of Staff, General Narisco Abilla, agreed he would create a special panel to study the complaints raised by the young officers against President Glorio Arroyo's administration in the military.
02:28:33.000And it goes on to say, Tremnilis, who spoke to Arroyo about his grievances before the revolt, sounded dejected in a local television interview.
02:28:46.000And he says, uh, these reforms will not come in my lifetime, he said in a defeat in his voice.
02:28:52.000Canales had documented the irregularities in the Philippines military in a controversial thesis he submitted for a master's degree at the University of Philippines last year.
02:29:03.000Eugene Gonzalez, another rebel leader, military officer in revolt, was a reminder of the country's leaders to serve with sincerity, adding that his group was prepared to face the music for its action.
02:29:19.000They accuse the military leadership of selling arms to rebels from the country's biggest separatist Muslim group, the Islamic Liberation Front, or MILF, the communist guerrilla force of New People's Army, and the notorious Abu Sayyaf Kingpin.
02:29:37.000The mutineers also, who colleagues say also hold a sterling combat record, said they had come across recovered ammunition from captured rebel camps with markings DND, Department of National Defense, Arsenal.
02:29:51.000These bullets are some of the same ones that are killing our fellow soldiers in the field.
02:29:55.000Complained Captain Renardo Gambila, another core leader of the siege.
02:29:59.000The ministry is also accused Defense Secretary Angelo Reyes, the military intelligence chief, of masterminding bombings against civilian targets in the southern Philippines in a bid to declare the MILF a terrorist group and eventually get more U.S.
02:30:15.000They also accused the military leadership of planning bombings in Manila in a bid to extend O'Reilly's stay in power through martial law.
02:30:23.000They will also do this through bombings in Metro Milan, which they will blame on other groups, said Gambielena.
02:30:30.000Excuse me, Gambalala, citing the recent escape of self-confessed Indonesian terrorist father Rahman Al-Ghortez as essential to his operation.
02:30:42.000Now, I've got about 10 articles on this.
02:30:57.000I can't babble through all this in the interest of time, but Colonel Roberts, I mean, how many times do we have to catch Mossad, MI6, CIA blowing stuff up?
02:31:07.000I mean, it's just so obvious what they're doing.
02:31:10.000Well, and it is, and it's not the first time.
02:31:13.000And it's probably going to continue on because it's kind of a modus operandi for anybody in the intelligence segment to be able to initiate an action so that they can have a counteraction to it.
02:31:25.000So they can justify spending more money or bringing in more troops.
02:31:28.000And this whole thing is pointing toward us putting American forces back into the Philippines.
02:31:33.000And we've been there several times before.
02:32:27.000I think it was in Manila or near Manila.
02:32:30.000Uh, he's in a van and a gorilla's come up and I can't remember if they shot him into a bomb in the van or what it was, but anyway, he was assassinated over there because he was starting to make waves on this very connection that, hey, there's a problem here.
02:32:43.000We got people inside the Philippine government who are supplying the rebels, who are supplying
02:32:48.000the different Islamic factions and so on like that.
02:32:51.000Now we take it a step further and we look at the Oklahoma City bombing.
02:32:54.000We've got Abu Sayyaf involved in that because I've got a file from the Philippine government
02:32:59.000that shows that Nichols and McVeigh, especially Nichols, went to the Philippines several times,
02:33:06.000Now, who he met with Abu Sayyaf, and we've discussed this in the past, he met with Ramzi
02:33:12.000yosef who's later than one of the world trade center bombers
02:33:15.000He met with a guy named Mohammed Wali Khan, who was Osama Bin Laden's left-hand man.
02:33:21.000And he met with a guy named Edwin Angelis.
02:33:22.000Now, this is where the point I'm trying to make now is Edwin Angelis was the second commander of Abu Sayyaf, but Edwin Angelis was a member of the Philippine Secret Intelligence Service.
02:33:57.000If you can stir up the people against an organization or against a government, then you can either take over the organization or the government by using the people.
02:34:13.000So now you've got Philippine military personnel who are saying, you know, we found out that we're supplying the enemy and we're blowing up our own stuff and we're not putting up with it anymore.
02:34:23.000It's about time we had a little discussion with this government at that point.
02:34:26.000And that's where the insurrection came from.
02:34:29.000And then they gave themselves up to be put in prison for the rest of their lives.
02:34:35.000And they'll probably be killed in prison by communists who are openly working for the government.
02:34:40.000I mean, I've had leftist anarchists Who aren't, again, anarchists at all.
02:34:44.000Walk over to me at a rally, admit they work for the feds, and say that we can kill you anytime we want.
02:34:51.000Yeah, that... they, uh... Sometimes they get a little brazen.
02:34:56.000I understand, but my point is, is that these so-called leftists out in the streets, who are against the wars and all this, they're there to make anti-war look stupid.
02:35:06.000They're there to control the debate and make the left look like it's good.
02:35:09.000Oh yeah, and what we're seeing though is all of this stuff, it doesn't matter whether it's right wing or left wing, it's all going in the same direction right now, and it's all being controlled by the globalists for one purpose, and that is to pull all of this stuff together to accomplish their little new world order scenario.
02:35:25.000Well it's simple, there's going to be more and more bombings, more and more terror, and the problem gets bigger and bigger, with more controls over our lives, and now everything's going to be a terrorist action, It's just an excuse for the government to run our lives.
02:35:40.000And when you go to the Goolie Gawker Pilago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn and you start looking at it, we're seeing a blueprint that was done there happening here now.
02:35:48.000The next step is going to be terrorizing the population so badly that we're afraid to leave our houses.
02:36:26.000And the key is we're being more vocal, we're being more active, more people are waking up.
02:36:32.000You talk about how you go to the deer camp and ten years ago two cops out of 30 knew, now almost all of you know.
02:36:37.000Don't you see it that we have a good chance if folks are active of standing up and not being cowed into submission and defeating this?
02:36:46.000I think it's happening more and more every day.
02:36:48.000But it only happens because we keep gas in our tanks.
02:36:51.000You know, the day we quit talking, the day we quit having these radio shows and publishing these books and doing these videos, and the day we quit doing the seminars and traveling and just decide, I'm just going to pass the torch on to somebody else, I'm going to kick back in my lawn chair.
02:37:05.000Yeah, folks, they spend a lot of time figuring out how to counter real patriots.
02:37:48.000But the problem is, Americans are a different breed of cat.
02:37:52.000We don't fall in the same groove as the other people who line up in a row and turn in their guns because somebody said... Well, that's why we're more violent.
02:37:57.000That's why we have more... I mean, there's problems on that, but there's also pluses to ban a bunch of wild folks from all over the place.
02:38:41.000I put my head on the chopping block all the time.
02:38:43.000You know, I... Yeah, Carl, in Vietnam, when you were out there as a sniper, I mean, I mean, it's not, you know, the general's going to save me back in the command bunker.
02:38:59.000We need the people on the street to educate the guy standing next to them.
02:39:02.000And say, look... Well, look, ten years ago I was in college hearing how evil America was, and I got sick of hearing their anti-gun, anti-family garbage, and I got on this path.
02:39:11.000You, uh, you know, fifteen, twenty years ago began investigating it.
02:40:30.000Yeah, I think he's a wonderful speaker.
02:40:33.000And, Alex, if you could ever speak with him on your show, I'm sure we'd all be delighted to hear it.
02:40:40.000I'd like to thank you, Alex, for bringing up that commercial that ran a few years ago with the guy in the overcoat filling his pockets and walking out and being stopped to have his receipt handed to him.
02:40:49.000I'd forgotten completely about that, and I appreciate you reminding me of that.
02:40:54.000Well, that's what the self-checkout is with the RFID.
02:40:57.000It's admitted to get rid of all the checkers.
02:41:00.000And then, like you said, they weren't selling anything except that they're putting forth this image of things to come.
02:41:07.000Alex, the one thing I wanted to ask you, My dad, his name was David Waters, and he was from Austin, Texas, where you're at, and he killed Madeleine Murray O'Hare, and I've read as much as I could about that case, and is there anything that I should know that maybe you'd be privy to from being from that area?
02:41:25.000Because I know it was covered more thoroughly in Austin.
02:41:28.000You're going to have to stay there, Darren, because I'll talk to you on the other side.
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02:44:55.000But, I mean, the whole battle of Marie O'Hare case and how she was supposedly killed and then all that investigation went along, I don't know what to make of it.
02:45:27.000It struck me as strange that a perfectly healthy man would just suddenly... Yeah, that whole case was, they were out there at that ranch for months.
02:45:39.000And just the way that the whole thing was being reported, it was very, very interesting.
02:45:50.000Yeah, he was in Leavenworth, struck deathly ill, all of a sudden they shift him off to North Carolina to their federal cancer brig or whatever they've got.
02:46:01.000Well, I know they do a lot of bio and chemical testing on prisoners and people, and that's admitted.
02:46:06.000They did it to troops, even in the mid-80s in England, killing our troops knowingly.
02:46:13.000Colonel Roberts, can you speak to that?
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