Alex Jones Live from Austin, Texas on the 2nd of September, 2003, with Carol Buwe, Bev Harris, and Alex Jones himself. Topics covered include: - 9/11 and the cover-up of the attacks on the United States on September 11th, 2003. - World War II in Iraq and Afghanistan. - Al Qaeda and other terrorist attacks in the Middle East and North Africa. - Why is the U.S. government covering up the truth about the attacks? - Who is responsible for the attacks in D.C. and New York? - Is it the CIA, the FBI, the Joint Improvised Explosive Device (JIED) Plant, or something else?
00:01:23.000We're going to have open phones today.
00:01:24.000We have several great guests coming on.
00:01:27.000We have the lady who bought up the deception dollars that have the websites printed on them that expose the government for being involved in September 11th, Elements of the Government.
00:01:40.000We have Carol Buwe, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, joining us and then in the third hour we have Bev Harris who was on our show a few months ago exposing Diebold and other electronic touchscreen voting systems for being designed for fraud, being designed to steal elections, and since she's been on the show and other shows, the story has broken in the mainstream news
00:02:10.000Top computer programmers and experts have looked at the different voting machine companies.
00:02:29.000Everything the globalists do now is right out in the open in our face.
00:02:35.000And I've written a detailed, I don't know, five-page analysis of Arnold Schwarzenegger and the recall election, and it won't be posted today, it'll be posted tomorrow, but I'm going to make myself take some time out today and read this whole thing on air, so that's coming up as well, and just a bunch of other news.
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00:08:25.000It is Tuesday, the 2nd of September 2003.
00:08:27.000There have been new bombings and Troops getting radiation sickness, and they're selling out all the jobs, and the economy's imploding, and they tell you the economy's getting better.
00:08:40.000Just all different sorts of interesting things happening, and we're going to cover them all here on the show.
00:08:48.000On the broadcast today, we have Carol Bouvier coming on, who came up with the idea for the Deception Dollars.
00:08:55.000Over two million of these have been printed.
00:08:56.000They expose the government, that is, the criminal elements of the government, that carried out September 11th.
00:09:02.000Then in the third hour, I have Bev Harris of BlackBoxVoting.com, and she is a market analyst, a lady who's involved in exposing corruption in big corporations.
00:09:14.000I mean, she's a big dog in this, an expert on corruption.
00:09:18.000Who discovered that the electronic voting machines are designed for fraud, are designed to be electronically accessed covertly.
00:09:27.000And since she was on the show a few months ago, breaking this story, it has been all over the major newspapers, from the Houston Chronicle to the Denver Post to the Sacramento Bee, I mean, I've seen it in hundreds of papers.
00:09:44.000As they just calmly announced, oh yeah, the companies didn't tell us that there was wireless connections built in.
00:09:50.000Oh, they didn't tell us that computer programmers said this thing's designed to defraud voters.
00:09:56.000Meanwhile, we have the League of Women Voters out campaigning that no one be allowed to have a record of how they voted, that the feds take over the elections, Bush and Chuckie Schumer have passed legislation to do just that.
00:10:10.000So that's some of the news that's going to be coming up here on the show.
00:10:17.000And you know, I know we've already talked about this quite a bit, but it's horrible.
00:10:22.000And when they come back and die, they'll just calmly announce, okay, the DE was bad for them, but it won't be a big news issue, and they'll keep using depleted uranium.
00:10:32.000This is out of the Drugs Report, and it's up on InfoWars.com.
00:10:37.000It says, paper, dangerously high levels of radiation measured around Baghdad.
00:10:42.000Soldiers and civilians in Iraq face a hellish Scenario.
00:10:48.000Soldiers and civilians in Iraq face a health crime bomb after dangerously high levels of radiation were measured around Baghdad.
00:10:58.000Levels between 1,000 and 1,900 times higher than normal were recorded at four sites around the Iraq capital where depleted uranium, DU, munitions have been used across wide areas.
00:11:13.000Experts estimate that Britain and the U.S.
00:11:16.000used 1,100 to 2,200 tons of armor-piercing shells made of DU during the attacks on Iraq forces.
00:11:26.000The figure eclipsed by the 375 tons used in the 1991 Gulf War.
00:11:34.000Unlike the largely desert-based conflict, most of the rounds fired in March and April were in heavily residential areas.
00:11:43.000Yes, in the 5,000-year-old communities on the Titus Euphrates, they say the radiation won't go away for hundreds of millions of years.
00:11:56.000And, by the way, I've heard all the neocon, socialist, gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting liars all over talk radio and TV and in the paper telling you that it's a liberal lie To say that DU's bad, and that DU's good, and that it's no big deal, and that it won't hurt you.
00:12:17.000Folks, the Army in 91 hired a top scientist who was a hawk, Rook, Dr. Rook, and sent him over there to disprove the claims that it was bad, that the depleted uranium was bad.
00:12:34.000And he resigned and said this stuff is deadly, people have lesions on their skin, in their lungs, and now 12 years later they've done major studies, major governments, major institutions, and people have cancer from it.
00:13:35.000So that's what's happened now, and the troops are in a lot of trouble.
00:13:39.000But hey, people are going to put yellow ribbons around their trees, and they're going to have, I support the troop stickers on their cars, and they're driving along listening to the Ocons right now, and they'll argue with you at the health club, or, you know, at church, they'll go, do you like bad?
00:14:17.000that's quite a bit three hundred seventy five times uh... now there's one thousand one hundred
00:14:23.000two thousand two hundred times i mean no one really knows used
00:14:29.000shot into all their major cities all that and when it hits armor plate concrete or whatever
00:14:35.000it burns into a gas of highly heated radiation and then settles
00:14:44.000And it's all the big historical sites and big palaces and the streets.
00:14:49.000It's all the centers of the cities blasted out with one thousand to two thousand plus tons Tons, folks!
00:15:01.000You know how many Abrams tank shells and how many jet machine gun rounds that is that they fire out of the F-18s and the A-10s and all the rest of it?
00:15:16.000Because in the Gulf War, it was just a few of the Abrams tank shells and the Vulcan gun and the A-10.
00:15:23.000The Bradley fighting vehicles are shooting DU rounds, and even I've heard, I've read, they had some of the Humvees mounted with machine guns that shoot DU, because you can take a tank out with that.
00:17:12.000Guess who's tracking you by cell phone?
00:17:14.000Article out of ZUNet admitting, OK, the Feds are using your cell phones to listen to you and track and trace you and you're on Star and your television set.
00:18:44.000And it turns out that right after the first plane was flown in, we had the White House and Cheney and everybody in control of NORAD and of the FAA and all these other federal agencies, as we told you beforehand, that's come out actually in the hearings and they're about to shut up and kick everybody out of the hearing.
00:19:04.000We had guests on last year about that, but that's one of the things the President doesn't want to release is the transcripts of that.
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00:24:58.000And I do intend to air some of the speech on the show later this week, and I know that some of the other hosts are planning to air some of the speech, like John Stattmiller, and on the Saturday show I do with him, we plan to air the speech in its entirety.
00:25:12.000But Ron Paul said in his speech that was talking about the Patriot Act, the war, and on the neocons, because I walked up to Congressman Paul who, before he gave his speech, I just finished mine, And they had that guy up there about to introduce him, Randall, who put the whole deal on.
00:26:19.000He told that crowd and 50 cameras then.
00:26:25.000When I say 50 cameras, I mean independent cameras.
00:26:30.000My two video cameras, a bunch of other video cameras, everybody had video cameras.
00:26:34.000It was an incredible speech he gave, very informative.
00:26:38.000Some of the other speeches that were given, I'm told by the viewers that it was the best speech I've ever given, and I think it's obviously one of my better ones.
00:26:44.000But here's Ron Paul, and by the way, the media have been contacted about this.
00:26:52.000Now you'd think a congressman coming to town, while Ashcroft's doing this national propaganda tour, telling us how good it is, to have the congressman from Central Texas, and his district goes all the way into South Texas, to have him there, Speaking out, calling Ashcroft a liar, giving the evidence of it, talking about the police state, talking about the war.
00:27:12.000You know, to have this big crowd of liberals, conservatives, you name it, folks.
00:27:16.000There were people there with purple hair and, you know, old Baptist ministers.
00:27:23.000You'd think that that was newsworthy, and there was no mainstream news there other than some small-town newspapers.
00:27:30.000And so, shame on the Austin American-Statesmen and the Houston Chronicle and the rest of them.
00:27:35.000But there was, by the way, Sunday and Saturday and Monday and now today in Texas papers, lots of editorials and Ashcroft telling us how good the Patriot Act is and how you're an evil communist if you say it isn't.
00:27:51.000But there's Ron Paul and I'm watching him give this speech and he says that there is a new world order, it's taking over, there is a global conspiracy.
00:28:01.000I mean, he came right out and said it.
00:28:03.000And then he said, we're going to have a depression.
00:28:05.000And he said, this thing's designed to give us a depression.
00:28:08.000And that's why they're setting up this whole police status for the depression.
00:28:13.000Everything I've told you, it was like Alex Jones was up there talking.
00:28:19.000So I tell you, I mean, Ron Paul's really turning the heat up on the globalists.
00:28:23.000He came out and talked about how the war was phony, the evidence of that, the lies.
00:28:29.000He talked about What the Patriot Act and Homeland Security really does.
00:28:33.000And people being secretly arrested and disappearing into the night.
00:28:37.000But he also said we're winning this counter-revolution.
00:28:41.000People are waking up at a level he's never seen before.
00:28:44.000That the crowds are bigger than he's ever seen before.
00:28:47.000That the response he's getting is overwhelmingly positive.
00:28:52.000And that's to Ron Paul going 180 degrees in the opposite direction from what Congress is doing.
00:28:59.000They're ignoring the will of the people on abortion, open borders, and gun control, and liberties, and freedoms, everything!
00:29:07.000But the scary thing is, Ron Paul said, we're going to have a depression.
00:29:12.000And then he's surprised things are still holding together like they are.
00:29:16.000Because we have a 40 plus trillion dollar debt.
00:29:21.000It's not a trillion dollars, it's not 500 billion dollars, it is a 43.
00:29:27.000And they're just putting the change to you right now, hoping you don't resist, hoping you don't speak up, hoping you don't get involved.
00:29:46.000Because folks, the government's going to pose as our saviors when they activate the depression, issue national ID cards, and put everyone on welfare.
00:29:55.000And by the way, they're going to take the middle class as well.
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00:30:37.000I got a star on my car and one on my chest, a gun on my hip and the right to rest.
00:30:44.000I'm the guy who's the boss on this highway, so watch out what you're doing when you're driving my way.
00:30:50.000If you break the law, you'll hear from me, I know.
00:30:53.000I know I'm a-workin' for the state on the highway patrol.
00:30:57.000Folks, Ron Paul doesn't make a lot of predictions.
00:31:04.000And to hear the congressman get up before a crowd of people and say the good news is America's waking up.
00:31:13.000There's a coalition of liberals and conservatives that are waking up that the Republicans and Democrats are sold out to the New World Order.
00:31:22.000And the good news is folks are waking up, and the good news is there's going to be a depression that's going to destroy the government, and that out of this crisis they're trying to create, we're actually going to win.
00:31:38.000It was very scary, the speech he gave here in Austin, Texas on Saturday.
00:31:47.000But that's exactly what Ron Paul had to say to All the people that were in attendance there at the meeting.
00:32:28.000One of the folks then during the question and answer said, so we're going to have a New World Order, you know, can you talk about the global conspiracy?
00:32:36.000You know, the men that run the New World Order?
00:32:40.000And Ron Paul said, well, I'm not going to talk about the individuals that run it.
00:32:44.000It's hard to identify exactly who's in control of it, but there is a global conspiracy for one world government, and there are people who publicly promote it and push for it in the media and academia and in government and banking.
00:32:58.000So what's happening is, the New World Order is so far along now, That you can't deny its existence anymore.
00:33:05.000It's like trying to deny that the sun comes out in the morning, or that the moon comes out in the evening, or that, you know, that you've got a tree in your backyard.
00:33:15.000And everybody says, well, you do have that tree right there.
00:33:20.000But then I look at the news, how they're saying that if you think the outsourcing of high-tech jobs is bad now, they're going to increase it sevenfold on purpose.
00:33:31.000And the news article says it's the New World Order, get used to it.
00:33:35.000You open the paper up and the Republican Party is outsourcing its campaign fundraising jobs to India.
00:33:41.000So when you get a call, it's an English-speaking person in India.
00:33:48.000And now Bush is creating a new job czar, economy czar, who's going to make you have an ID card to have a job.
00:33:56.000Gonna send you to the new fascist system where the corporation has governmental power over you at work and the military and homeland security will be in all the factories and... It's pure fascism, folks!
00:34:09.000They socialize things to get you addicted to government.
00:34:13.000Then after you're addicted to government and on the dole, after you're domesticated, they close the gate, load you in the wagon and take you to the glue factory.
00:34:23.000You're like an old horse in an animal farm.
00:34:59.000And as they're sucking us dry, they're going to blame it on outside forces.
00:35:02.000Give up more rights, don't struggle, and you're going to be okay.
00:35:05.000Whereas we could grab the spider, pull it off of us, it's perched up on us, telling us, it's got a tentacle into the body politics ear, up into the cerebral cortex, Controlling us, telling us don't, don't resist, submit, submit while it sucks us dry, while it insanguinates us.
00:35:55.000Because I don't even... It's not in my world.
00:36:00.000I mean, that's done in a cynical fashion so your daughters go out and buy their music, so your sons go out and buy their music, and it's allowed to go on by the establishment and Sumner Redstone and Viacom because they don't want the middle class breeding.
00:36:16.000They don't want the people that that music targets, the middle class, having children.
00:37:49.000And by the way, on their way down, they bounced off another big stack at my feet and kind of flew off that and I have like papers all over my feet.
00:39:12.000By the grace of God, in late 2001, They caught four Israelis in a car full of classified diagrams of nuclear power plants and dams with explosives.
00:39:26.000They took them into custody in order to release them.
00:39:47.000Yeah, even these, by and large, goon-like police are still stopping their bosses over and over again.
00:39:55.000We gave two of your videos, the last two, to what we hope is a sympathetic ear in the Clear Creek County government.
00:40:04.000Based on the conversation I had with her at the laundromat, she sounded a little set aside herself.
00:40:13.000She's been working there for 30 years and she knows some of the stuff that's been going on.
00:40:16.000She didn't really I can't specifically talk about it, but I'm hoping this video brings her to her senses and puts her foot down before it's all over.
00:40:28.000If the government bureaucrats, who aren't all evil, and the cops who aren't all evil, will wake up and realize how they've been incrementally brainwashed, if they will just do that, Then the system, the globalists, can't get it over on us.
00:40:44.000That's why they've got to come out on the news and say, torture's good now, torture's a virtue, microchips under the skin are good, okay, the Supreme Court's going to follow what the U.N.
00:40:54.000says from now on, okay, you know, that's why they've got to do this, to try to get us to think it's all normal.
00:41:17.000I was at a toy store this weekend with my wife, buying a gift for one of her nieces.
00:41:25.000And we go in the toy store, and I began to point out to my lovely, intelligent wife, I said, look at this, my dear.
00:41:32.000Every toy, Global Peacekeeper toys, You know, the G.I.
00:41:36.000Joe toys, we saw the Lego World City, the surveillance truck where you look through people's walls and there's little fold-outs of that where you look through people's walls and surveil them.
00:42:28.000Well, so the children are all growing up now, whether it's Lego toys, you know, a little man that has a hateful look, or whether it's a global peacekeeper, or all of it.
00:42:37.000It's UN symbols, global city, world city, mean faces, and everybody else has got nice faces!
00:43:56.000And a young man, probably 13, walks over and says, Carl Rove, because I went into how Carl Rove has ordered the media to follow all orders and the feds are paying for scripts to be written with all these messages.
00:45:42.000Well, I mean, I walked the show probably 50 times when I came home from school when I wasn't playing baseball or soccer or something, but the point is, remember Cobra?
00:45:52.000He wore a black ski mask, a black uniform, he screamed Cobra, he drove a black armored vehicle?
00:45:57.000No, I haven't been too much into police or the military.
00:46:00.000Well, here in Austin, let me tell you, the SWAT team in Travis County wears a black uniform, wears a black ski mask, He wears a black helmet and has Cobra patches that are the forward-facing Cobra, the Cobra Commander emblem, and they drive a black armored vehicle.
00:46:15.000So they just so happen to be the personification of Cobra Commander.
00:46:20.000The kids, you watch these shows, the villains are always cooler.
00:46:29.000The bad guys, there's more bad guy stuff being sold than good guys.
00:46:34.000So my point is, the kids are imprinting psychologically on the bad guys, okay?
00:46:39.000Yeah, well I was 10 years old and I was mugged while two Denver police officers had their arms folded and were talking about coffee and donuts by four other kids that were bigger than me and they thought it was business as usual.
00:46:53.000They didn't interfere at all or just basically sat there and laughed about it.
00:47:00.000And that's the point I'm trying to make here.
00:47:03.000Is that, you see, watch a show like L.A.
00:47:07.000Law or any of those shows, every show I tune into, they're torturing somebody to get answers, but it's good.
00:47:14.000See, so the good guys are mean, and they make mean faces, they beat people, they wear black uniforms, but, then they add, but that's good, see?
00:47:36.000They sell it to you as if it's the rebel thing to do.
00:47:38.000Explain to your children the rebel thing to do is to stand up for decency, and honor, and what's good, and to have courage, and to go against the flow of evil.
00:47:49.000And I'm telling you, you sell that message to young people.
00:47:52.000The biggest viewers I have, the biggest listeners I have in Austin, on TV and radio, are young people.
00:47:58.000Go to one of my events, it's young people.
00:48:00.000That doesn't happen with many other patriot leaders.
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00:51:21.000one eight eight eight two five three three one three nine that's a day to
00:51:27.000five three three one three nine joining us talk about the suction dollars
00:51:47.000It's really just the story of an activist having a massive effect from just microscopic grassroots level of holding a sign up protesting the war and government prior knowledge of September 11th and involvement to reaching millions of people in just a few months.
00:52:04.000And we'll also get into the topical news of the day because she studies all that and is very informative on those issues.
00:52:11.000And then we've got the lady on who exposes corporate fraud, done it professionally for many years, to talk about electronic voting and how it's just broken all over the mainstream news that it is fraud-based, and how the head Republican guy who runs Diebold, one of the top elections companies, Promise Republicans in this memo that I'm going to deliver you the votes, don't worry.
00:52:38.000I mean, we might as well just have confessions here of this stuff.
00:52:42.000This stuff, again, it's just all off the charts.
00:52:45.000Before I go to Doug and Barney and others that are patiently holding, bomb attack on Baghdad police station.
00:52:53.000Two huge explosions were heard today in central Baghdad in what appeared to be a car bomb attack on a police station.
00:52:59.000Al Jazeera reported that as many as 10 people were injured and many cars destroyed when the bombs went off in a park near the Al-Razzafa police station.
00:53:08.000The explosion started a large fire and sent a cloud of black smoke into the sky at the police station.
00:53:14.000Near the interior ministry, it was not seriously damaged.
00:53:17.000Local resident, Diya Karim, However, told Reuters and his agency he saw no wounded policemen taken away.
00:53:25.000Now, I can see a police station getting bombed, being the government.
00:53:29.000That is, being the old Iraqi government, or Baathist, or somebody who were for that.
00:53:34.000But I cannot see, over the weekend, or last Friday, the sheik, the Ayatollah, who got killed.
00:53:44.000I mean, this guy was in Iran for, like, 20 years.
00:53:48.000In absentia, and then came back to the country, and then suddenly he gets blown up in a mosque, in one of the holiest Shia sites, and then they claim that other Shiites did it.
00:54:18.000I mean, it's just... But again, they know the average American out there has no idea about the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, where Iraq's located.
00:54:25.000You know, any of that, so they just believe it.
00:54:29.000Oh yeah, sure, it's like last week they said, okay, we did put out false information about weapons of mass destruction, the White House said, Saddam planted it.
00:54:38.000Oh yes, Saddam would plant false evidence of weapons of mass destruction so he would be taken over.
00:54:53.000They know all about baseball and football, all about how to look good, all how to pick up women at bars, but not about politics.
00:55:02.000World affairs, it's like trying to talk to Somebody who's deaf, dumb, and blind, I guess, into the issues.
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00:58:08.000It's quite obvious that Dixie Monti of Budapest, the same people that murdered Kennedy, did this, and it was, you know, for the point of establishing this new world order, this global fascist state.
00:58:18.000And the other people that were calling him before me, it was really amazing.
00:58:21.000If they were actual callers, I would kind of doubt it, because, okay, they said things like, well, you know, your vote should count as many dollars in tax that you pay, that's how many votes you should have, and just, like, crazy things.
00:59:04.000I hope we get through this, but we're probably going to lose a few more people and, you know, hopefully now, um, you know, we're certainly, this coming depression is probably going to make the first one look like a picnic.
00:59:16.000Isn't that scary to have Ron Paul saying we're going to have a depression?
00:59:19.000Oh yeah, you know, he is one of the, maybe, shining patriots that we have.
00:59:34.000I mean, really, if you don't have, you know, because these pieces of cotton with green ink on it, I mean, they're worth, each one is worth, what, maybe two cents.
00:59:41.000It costs two cents to make a one-dollar bill or a hundred-dollar bill.
00:59:45.000So, um, you know... Well, they say with all the security features it's four cents, but... Well, um, and, uh, real briefly, I mean, all the aspects of the 9-11 story have, you know, circumstantially been proven to be a total lie.
00:59:58.000I've mentioned, I'll just mention this one thing before, you know, I've called before, I'm a pilot, and I knew things about air traffic control and the thing that just ended the story for me immediately was that these planes, you know, if you're on instrument control, you have a dialogue with ATC and at first, if you stop talking to them, you're intercepted.
01:00:15.000Not only did they stop talking, they turned off their transponder.
01:00:18.000Four transponders turn off an hour before the first plane crashes in, no planes are scrambled, turns out the White House took control of NORAD hours before.
01:00:29.000And really, you know, the transponder, that is just the smoke and mirror.
01:00:31.000That's just a I mean, look, if someone's invading your country, you don't expect them to be broadcasting the signal.
01:00:41.000NORAD sees everything that's going on.
01:00:43.000So, I mean, the idea that, oh, well, they turned off the transponder, we couldn't see them, is just that lunacy.
01:00:48.000I mean, you know... No, no, I mean, there's the radar blip, tracked with a number, and then all of a sudden the transponder turns off, you radio, hey, your transponder's off, you okay?
01:01:01.000Every plane, especially big ones, in that corridor especially, most controlled airspace in the world, folks, right there in DC, New York.
01:01:09.000Planes, four planes, turned their transponders off.
01:01:12.000Well, they've already got the plane numbered as a blip flying.
01:01:17.000The Payne Stewart story, I made a little webpage right after 9-11, the Payne Stewart story used to be all over the place and I downloaded some stories from major news outlets.
01:01:25.000A lot of those have disappeared off the web.
01:01:28.000Oh yeah, out of the memory hole there.
01:01:30.000Well, Pat Stewart was intercepted in 15 minutes, had jets around him in 18, but let's not talk about that.
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01:05:13.000We've got Beth Harris, who has been exposing corporate fraud for decades.
01:05:18.000She's hired by Fortune 500 companies to do it.
01:05:21.000She found out that almost all the electronic machine companies are owned by Republicans, Senators, you name it, connected to the National Security Agency and the FBI and CIA, the Dixie Mafia we were just talking about.
01:05:35.000They have electronic transmitters inside of them, wireless internet connections.
01:05:40.000They try to keep this information from being released to the public.
01:05:44.000They try to say, oh, it's proprietary, it's private, you can't look inside the box.
01:05:48.000The League of Women Voters is pushing, socialists that they are for the bankers, to not allow any record of how you vote nationwide.
01:05:55.000They're trying to block a bill by Congressman Holt to make it to where there is a record of how you vote, a paper ballot that's generated by the electronic machine at least.
01:06:08.000I know we've got Michael and Barney and Mike and others that are holding.
01:06:12.000Your calls are coming up here real quick.
01:06:14.000Because we've got a guest on who can talk about all the issues.
01:06:16.000I've had a chance to talk to her last week and I'm familiar with her work.
01:06:19.000Very knowledgeable and activist in the San Francisco area who reaches out to the conservatives, the liberals, the greens, the libertarians, the Christians.
01:06:28.000Everybody, as Ron Paul said this weekend in his speech, that wants liberty and freedom and to fight the New World Order.
01:06:34.000And she's a great example of how you can take one person who is active And reach millions of people.
01:06:42.000This is what I've done in the last 10 years.
01:06:45.000Now on all these AM and FM stations, shortwave internet, my films, the work I've done just because I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and got involved.
01:06:55.000And there's millions of people that are smarter than I am, who have more intelligence and more drive and more zeal and more leadership than I have, than Carol Brugier has, who need to get involved in this fight.
01:07:09.000And Ron Paul said that again this weekend.
01:07:11.000We've got to have more leaders, more people involved, more organizations, more groups, Truly putting out the information from more angles to give us a clearer view of what we're facing.
01:08:04.000Tell us about yourself, how you got involved and have had such an incredible contribution to the fight against the corrupt world criminals that we're fighting.
01:08:15.000Well about 10 years ago I saw the film JFK and I was deeply disturbed by it so I went to the library and started doing research on the CIA and I was just horrified to find out about the drug running and the terrorism that the CIA was perpetuating in third world countries.
01:08:33.000So I was outraged it was my government I felt it was my responsibility to do something about it and I became active Then, and for 10 years I've been working for peace and justice issues.
01:08:45.000And since I'm out in California, where the left is so strong, I have, you know, worked with the progressive movement a lot.
01:08:53.000But at the same time, because I knew, I've been open to all sorts of information, and I think it was 1993, 1994, I found out about the banking system, the Federal Reserve, and I worked on changing the monetary system.
01:09:10.000And changing our whole global economy, which is a war economy.
01:09:14.000So I've been, you know, just very, very active promoting community currencies, local currencies, trying to break the big lies and the big myths about... And that's what disgusts me about the phony left, is you've got all these well-meaning people led by corrupt corporate spin-men and women that pose as, you know, progressive liberals or whatever, And you've got the left saying, big government to counter the corporations, when the corporations want that big government, want that centralized control to enslave us all.
01:09:48.000A lot of the people now on the west coast, the east coast, the liberals here in Austin that I know, Are saying, I'm not a liberal, don't call me that.
01:09:56.000I'm a freedom lover and I see them breaking out of the shell and growing and learning about the Federal Reserve and learning about the UN and IMF and World Bank.
01:10:05.000And that has got the establishment absolutely panicked.
01:10:10.000Yeah, one of the groups that I've worked with, Global Exchange, they are part of the 50 Years is Enough campaign against the World Bank and the IMF.
01:10:18.000And so I've been going to, we mobilized against Seattle, against the World Trade Organization there.
01:10:26.000I was in New York protesting the World Economic Forum in January 2002.
01:10:30.000I also went to Brazil for the World Social Forum where there were Thousands of people from hundreds of different countries, all opposed to the IMF, the World Bank, and the World Trade Organization.
01:10:42.000And so that's why the globalists are panicking, because their own big government movements now have woken up to the scam, and of course more and more conservatives are waking up as well.
01:10:53.000Right, and I think too that 9-11 was a desperate bid of the global elite to maintain power using their traditional methods of war and terrorism.
01:11:05.000And it was just before the big international mobilization that was supposed to happen.
01:11:09.000And I was planning on going to it, to Washington DC, to protest the IMF, the World Bank.
01:11:14.000We were going to surround the White House.
01:11:16.000And then when, after September 11th, they cancel the meetings, they cancel the protests.
01:11:21.000And now they're walling off the White House.
01:11:23.000They're going to make all of downtown D.C.
01:11:27.000Now worldwide governments say you can't protest because that aids the terrorists.
01:11:33.000Even the Deputy Attorney General, Mike Van Winkle, in California, of the so-called Liberal Gray Davis, showing there's no difference, He came right out and said in the Oakland Tribune a few months ago that protesting may be illegal in the future because protesting hurts the war and that aids terrorists.
01:11:53.000And one thing, because I've been out in the streets demonstrating, I know my rights and I think it's very important for everyone to get out in the streets to find out what's going on because there's a huge difference between what is reported in the mainstream press and what's going on at a grassroots level.
01:12:56.000Well, the way to reach people is through art and through graphics.
01:13:02.000And Blaine Mahan, who designed the Deception Dollar, he did that wonderful photo with Hitler And the Reichstag fire and Bush and the World Trade Center in the background and said, if history repeats, would we notice?
01:13:16.000And I think that is the best historical parallel to the time that we're in.
01:13:22.000I think what we're seeing right now is definitely the rise of the Fourth Reich.
01:13:25.000And so I used that image and he did these beautiful satirical movie posters all around the September 11th theme.
01:13:34.000Those images, I used them on my flyers, my handouts, and then he had designed the front of the Deception Dollar.
01:13:39.000I said, oh, Blaine, if you could do the back, we could pass them out at the big anti-war march that's coming up.
01:13:46.000And so he designed the back, and we passed out 10,000 of them so quickly that we needed to print more.
01:13:58.000So then we printed a million, and they've been so popular, so well-received by people on the street, it's really had a huge impact in the field of consciousness.
01:14:09.000That's why InfoWars.com is now carrying the fifth generation of the Deception Dollar in a couple weeks.
01:14:15.000We've ordered a bunch of the sixth generation.
01:14:18.000They're not out yet, and I was honored to see InfoWars.com It all comes from just, you know, with a card table on the sidewalk where people give you a dollar and they take your information or they buy a magazine.
01:14:28.000and thanks to all the folks that have distributed these and carried these and that have bought
01:14:47.000And then I started getting, you know, War and Freedom and a few books.
01:14:52.000And it's from the -- people are so hungry for this information.
01:14:54.000You can't get it in the stores, you can't find it online, you can't get it in libraries, and that's what has helped for our printing.
01:15:03.000The other thing that we did, too, when... I actually thought we could stop the war in Iraq.
01:15:10.000I thought if we could expose 9-11, we could stop this Bush regime, and I felt I'm somewhat betrayed by the movement that I felt a part of, the anti-corporate globalization movement, because when we marched on our Senators in January 2002 to demand an investigation of 9-11, and I actually did get National Lawyers Guild, Global Exchange, Peace Action, a lot of human rights peace organizations to demand the investigation.
01:15:47.000Soon afterwards, Bush and Cheney said, let's limit the investigation to basically why the CIA failed and how we can justify our budget to increase the CIA and prevent future terrorist attacks.
01:15:59.000But the parameters of the inquiry were so limited And they were, of course, the heads of the House and the Senate Intelligence Oversight Committee.
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01:21:04.000I want to talk about the depleted uranium, which we've been talking about all along, which is now in the mainstream news, but not a big enough story.
01:21:10.000I want to talk about all these ongoing bombings.
01:21:12.000I want to get into the whole police state and some of the news that's just now coming out today.
01:21:21.000And we're also about to go to Michael in Texas, and Barney in Maryland, and others that have been holding for quite a while.
01:21:29.000If you'd like to join us on air, on basically any issue, because it's all affected by the Globalist Crime Syndicate, 1-800-259-9231.
01:21:36.000Carol, you've got several different great websites.
01:21:41.000One is deceptiondollar.com, one is communitycurrency.org.
01:21:46.000What are some of the sites you'd like folks to visit?
01:21:49.000Well, I think the top three on 9-11 is Mike Rupert's site, and Michelle Chastodowsky's site, globalresearch.canada, and COPVCIA.
01:22:02.000Also, the Center for Cooperative Research has Paul Thompson's amazing timeline.
01:22:41.000I must say, too, that I'm hoping to organize a big conference with films and bringing all the researchers together to put together all the pieces of the puzzle in the future.
01:22:52.000In fact, hopefully the proceeds from the Deception Dollar Run will help to sponsor a big conference.
01:22:58.000Well, by the way, in San Francisco, you have aired the amazing work of the Guerrilla News Network.
01:23:03.000I know they featured some of my information in their...
01:23:09.000And that showing, that was just when the war broke out and we, Deception Dollars were in high demand and we managed to raise like $10,000 in less than a month.
01:23:19.000So we rented this beautiful, gorgeous theater right in the civic center, right in the heart of San Francisco, and in less than three weeks we showed Aftermath, we had Mike Rupert, Peter Dale Scott, Riva Antin, and Barry Swicker, who did The Great Deception, which was the first televised challenge through the official narrative.
01:23:46.000And we had huge movie posters just plastered all over San Francisco, and the mainstream press tried to completely ignore it.
01:23:54.000Well, it's like yesterday, or a few days ago, we had Ron Paul, conservatives, liberals, libertarians, all together, saying the government carried out these attacks, talking about the war, talking about how a depression's coming, all the different speakers on different issues, and the media totally ignored it.
01:24:13.000Let's take a quick call, these folks have been holding a while.
01:24:16.000Mike in Texas, go ahead, you're on the air, thanks.
01:24:19.000Alex, I love your show and your website, I got two points.
01:24:22.000I think you need to put the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto on your website so people know what it is.
01:24:29.000I've also shown... And we do have that.
01:24:31.000We have the comparison between the Communist Manifesto and between the Bill of Rights and compare what system we're really living under in America today.
01:24:39.000Because one of the planks going on right now is the deindustrialization of America and I've talked to people about it.
01:25:32.000Which is, yeah, looking at skull and bones and how the global elite finance the communists and the fascists and the Nazis and everybody.
01:25:40.000They like to control both sides, which you articulate so well.
01:25:44.000And the publisher of that, he's coming out with a new book too this fall called Fleshing Out Skull and Bones, which looks at, you know, we have the American chapter doing all this horrible stuff, but It's part of a global problem.
01:25:59.000German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt said in his own book, Men and Powers, that there is a German arm of Skull and Bones, but it's actually the original arm, and that controls Bush and others today.
01:27:30.000That's because they're front men, they're puppets.
01:27:33.000For this evilarchy, this group of corrupt plutocrats that serve large central banks, that print the money, that finance and control the governments out of zeros and ones they create in computers.
01:27:49.000Then when the third world can't pay back debts that were never designed to be paid back, they tell them, fine, sterilize half your women, forcibly, and you can have debt forgiveness.
01:27:59.000And they call that a friendly thing to do.
01:28:14.000Michael Chossudovsky has brought that out.
01:28:15.000We brought that out here on this show.
01:28:18.000This stuff is all public, but they know that the mainstream media is never going to talk about it, because they own it!
01:28:23.000So it comes down to people like Alex Jones, Harold Brouillet, John Doe out there, Susie Q listening out there right now, to educate yourself on this and to become a leader.
01:28:34.000We're about to go to more of your calls here in just a second.
01:28:36.000The total free number to join us on air is 1-800-259-9231.
01:28:48.000Carol, you were trying to make a point before we hit that last break.
01:28:51.000We're having a rally and a march on Saturday in San Francisco from the Panhandle to the 5th annual 9-11 Power to the Peaceful concert, which is the free concert with Michael Franchi and Spearhead.
01:29:03.000And we're meeting at the Panhandle going up Baker down Haight Street.
01:29:07.000And the theme of our rally is Impeach the Terrorists.
01:29:11.000And I think it behooves us as Americans to rein in our own government and show some responsibility, because if we don't take care of this terrible regime in Washington D.C., we might get help from the Russians and the Chinese and the French and who knows who, but I think it behooves us to try to do it in a peaceful manner, and that means public education and just massive organizing and a lot of
01:29:35.000pressure on public officials and also on the press.
01:29:59.000saying they're against the war was theater so they could play the part of the good cop and then use America as basically the bulldog to carry out their dirty work.
01:30:09.000So, I mean, globally, this New World Order is about using different factions of its system to take over and then tell the people that the other faction is the good guy.
01:31:04.000i even take that away from the globalist You talk about propaganda, we always say, we're over there attacking those poor third world people, or we're doing this.
01:31:40.000Well, listen, let me ask you a question.
01:31:43.000How many people in the traditional left wing now understand things are more serious than they thought, understand their Democrat party is controlled by the same criminals, and understand that we're about to go into total martial law if they don't get their heads out of the sand?
01:31:57.000There's a crazy sort of diversity amongst the left.
01:32:01.000I think a lot of them are still in denial.
01:32:03.000That's one of the good things about showing the films.
01:32:06.000We're reaching more and more people, average people, as well as the left.
01:32:11.000The gatekeepers, I don't know if you've seen the questions.net, which looks at the left gatekeepers.
01:32:18.000The established left, the big left, they're still fighting tooth and nail.
01:32:26.000They never looked at Oklahoma City, the first World Trade Center bombing, and I think it's a deliberate way to keep right and left apart, to keep right and left fighting each other.
01:32:35.000Well, they're busy defending George Bush.
01:32:36.000I mean, you watch the so-called liberal media, it's a George Bush worship fest.
01:32:40.000Well, that's not the progressive movement out here.
01:32:51.000The main message from the grassroots is restore democracy, impeach George Bush.
01:32:56.000Yeah, but you've got to know though, so-called democracy, they can say take everybody's land and 51% says so, or we're going to put all the Arabs in the camps, the majority of people want it.
01:33:48.000What they do do is, they go, oh look, we're taking these immigrants' rights so that the average right-wing person thinks, oh good, it's just for them.
01:33:56.000And that's where I agree with you, is that that's that Nazi-style propaganda of, oh it's just for the guys with the turbans, it's not for us.
01:34:05.000us when in reality I've got the footage of what FEMA's training right now. It is for
01:34:11.000white America and I just hope some of the racists in white America understand I've seen
01:34:16.000the training manuals. It is for you. Right, right, exactly.
01:34:21.000And we have to be completely in solidarity with all the people who are unjustifiably
01:34:26.000Especially doing the 9-11 research, you realize that all those alleged hijackers, those all were U.S.
01:34:37.000It's absurd to believe in this huge lie, this giant myth that there's just these radical Islamic fanatics who hate America because we have You know, blah, blah, blah.
01:35:46.000It couldn't have happened without military assistance.
01:35:49.000And a friend of mine wrote a book called Understanding Special Operations Interviews with Fletcher Prouty, who played Mr. X in the Oliver Stone JFK film and was the military assistant to the CIA, basically.
01:36:02.000And he says, the fingerprints of special operations is what doesn't happen.
01:36:06.000And when you know that no planes were scrambled, They had so much time before the Pentagon was attacked and... Hours.
01:36:14.000Yeah, it's just obvious at that point that... I have a feeling though that... And then Moses got lying saying that he found out during the little goat story, but it turns out he knew before he left the hotel.
01:37:03.000Or maybe it was just too complex for them to get away with it.
01:37:06.000I was about to say, for folks out there, you've got to turn your thinking process off to understand this.
01:37:11.000Shifting gears, and I will go to these calls in just a second, Barney and others.
01:37:14.000Shifting gears for just a second, Carol, they claim that Iran was probably behind it, that other Muslims were behind killing this Ayatollah who'd been in Iran for 20 years.
01:37:25.000That would be like Hitler in 1933 coming out and saying, don't vote for Hitler.
01:37:31.000Or that's like cutting your own nose off.
01:37:33.000But they know people don't know the details, or even where Iraq is.
01:37:36.000Because, on a map, they tell us it was probably Iran or Muslims that killed this Ayatollah.
01:37:42.000Why would... Muslims don't blow up their own mosque, number one.
01:37:45.000Number two, Iran doesn't kill their own man.
01:37:48.000Well, you look at what happened in Afghanistan in the 70s, when Zbigniew Brzezinski said, OK, let's arm the Mujahideen.
01:37:55.000I think, basically, they created a Muslim terrorist threat to replace the communist threat, because they're getting closer and closer to the so-called communists.
01:38:04.000And with our huge military budget, we have to have a credible enemy.
01:38:08.000And the only way to get a credible enemy is to create one, fund it, arm it, train it, assist it, and that's what they did.
01:38:14.000But they just don't like Americans to be aware that they're funding training and assisting all the terrorists.
01:38:54.000Dr. Rook, who they hired in 91 to go disprove DEU as being dangerous, resigned and said, the big army scientist, this is killing our troops, it's dangerous.
01:39:03.000Now they've got lesions, lung problems, they've tested the blood of Australians and British troops.
01:39:09.000Now, this is from the Drudge Report and the London Guardian and a bunch of other articles.
01:40:13.000And then you also have the horrific birth defects.
01:40:16.000So you want to keep pregnant women as far away as possible.
01:40:19.000Which, by the way, Albright admitted that 500,000 Iraqi kids were killed, and that was back in 97, in the last, you know, nine years of it.
01:41:57.000And as far as this crisis goes, I'd like to see it come about.
01:42:01.000I think we've got plenty of people and this gradualism is getting to be too much.
01:42:06.000If we don't get something going soon, all our material things and everything will be gone.
01:42:11.000Well, that's the plan of NAFTA and GATT, is to get rid of the middle class, bring us to our knees, force us onto welfare, and a private, corporatized system.
01:42:20.000Socialism leads to corporatism, not to communism.
01:42:47.000My mentor was a man named Bill Moyer, without an S, who wrote a book called Doing Democracy, The Eight Stages of Social Movement.
01:42:57.000He can map out the existing paradigm and how all social movements have to go through these different phases in order to affect change.
01:43:05.000He looks at the longer picture, the longer view, and how The evolution of civilizations and where we are at right now is like this amazing crash where the existing institutions are losing all their credibility.
01:43:23.000Right, and what we're trying to nurture is sort of like an emerging paradigm of a society which is peaceful, that respects life, that is cooperative, and hopefully, to me, What I want to do is I want to redirect all the human and intellectual resources from war and means of controlling and killing vast numbers of people on the planet to nurturing life and having healthy relationships between people and planet.
01:43:54.000So I think we're at this extremely critical Period.
01:44:00.000And what we do individually and collectively is going to determine whether we're going to be one of the extinct species or whether we can even make it.
01:44:08.000Well, the Globulus would rather destroy everything than lose their control.
01:44:26.000We've got links to that on InfoWars.com, and InfoWars.com is now carrying the Deception Dollars, and we're going to have the sixth series in soon.
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01:50:39.000I need some advice. I need help. I have a sister who has a master's degree, works for a big global corporation,
01:50:49.000kind of sees everything that's kind of going on but refuses to do any studying.
01:50:54.000Just recently she had a carpal tunnel injury because she's banging away on that computer a million miles a minute.
01:51:01.000That led to a rare illness after she had her surgery on it called RSD, which actually can kill you.
01:51:08.000And her issue that's coming up is she's saying it's almost like a police state because now her company has to have access to You know, obviously, through all this pain issues, she got very depressed and went to a psychologist or psychiatrist, you know, to deal with these issues.
01:51:27.000Yeah, they tell you, go to that, then they use that to not give you treatment.
01:51:30.000Look, they would tell troops after the Gulf War, you want treatment?
01:51:33.000Sign this to go to a shrink, then we'll give you treatment.
01:51:36.000Now, the shrink would say, you're crazy, as the guy literally was melting in the chair, and then he'd leave, they'd bury him a month later, and they'd say he was mentally ill.
01:51:44.000How do you get across to a person that sees the fraud, but yet I hate to call your sister this, but she's very intelligent, but they trained her like a dog.
01:51:55.000So as they beat her to death, she will whimper and cry and beg and thinking she's done something wrong.
01:54:19.000Okay, yeah, they're designed for fraud, but they didn't mean it.
01:54:22.000We're going to go ahead and use it anyways.
01:54:24.000And the League of Women Voters is saying you shouldn't be able to Check into what the voting machine companies are doing, and they're lobbying that there not be any paper ballot attached to the touchscreen system.
01:55:15.000There's been some new developments on this touchscreen voting.
01:55:17.000Real quick, Bob, finish up your question you had in the last hour.
01:55:20.000Well, the last few years, Alex, what I've noticed on the nightly news, CBS, ABC, and NBC, is they continue to keep bringing up this issue of identity theft.
01:55:35.000They've said, well, we have to thumb scan, we have to face scan.
01:55:38.000It seems like every month they have some kind of article in the nightly news about, oh, identity theft is growing, it's growing, it's terrible.
01:56:27.000Now again, they've said, creeps are going to be in all the factories, your jobs, you'll all have to give urine tests to work anywhere, checkpoints, hardened checkpoints.
01:56:35.000This was all planned and prepared by the military during Clinton administration and it all continued to expand under Bush.
01:56:42.000And then they claim it's for after the terror.
01:57:09.000They've been training the tribs to take your guns and they first got to get you used to seeing them.
01:57:15.000In my film, The Road to Tyranny, I have a Marine Corps officer who in 1989 was kicking down gun dealers' homes, doors, and taking them to jail with the BATF in the 1980s.
01:57:30.000You know, I try to tell people what's going on, you know, and they'll look at you and say, oh, you need to be in a psycho ward or you're crazy, you know.
01:57:37.000But even if they see the troops, now they'll say, yeah, troops is good.
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02:02:23.000This is the same government that says 1,900 times the so-called safe level of DU for our troops to breathe is good, but they want you to not be able to buy that vitamin C. And by the way, Europe's already done this, by the way.
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02:02:48.000Cleveland's big newspaper, Voting Machine Controversy, Columbus.
02:02:52.000The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a fundraising letter that he is committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.
02:03:04.000The August 14th letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Incorporated, who has become active in re-election effort for President Bush, prompted Democrats this week to question the proprietary And, uh, of allowing O'Dell Company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.
02:03:25.000O'Dell, it goes on, attended a strategy powwow with wealthy Bush benefactors known as the Rangers and Pioneers, and it goes on and on.
02:03:35.000She said she was breaking the major news because she's a lady who's been hired by Fortune 500 companies to expose corporate corruption in their own systems.
02:03:44.000They found Diebold and other big companies.
02:03:45.000They looked at the source code of Diebold and others.
02:05:13.000And AP Wire, by the way, is picking up this stuff, but what is really a problem is, now usually when the AP Wire service picks it up, it gets into 50 to 200 newspapers, but the main newspapers are Blacking out the AP Wire stories on this stuff.
02:05:28.000So we've got some press that are doing their job.
02:05:31.000Or they take it and say, there's been a few problems, don't worry, the feds are going to fix you.
02:05:35.000Oh no, no, this is really interesting.
02:05:37.000But yeah, we've got stuff to break and I guess what we'll do is we'll break it here and then people can watch for it in the news in the next few months as they have.
02:05:48.000Yeah, one of the things that I was I found absolutely stunning was of course, well we've known that the Diebold executives have been a major
02:05:58.000Major political folks behind the Bush administration.
02:06:02.000It's not just Wally O'Dell, it's also W.H.
02:06:05.000Timkin, who is another director from Diebold.
02:06:07.000Now, understand that Bush has only about a hundred pioneers.
02:06:11.000The Bush pioneers are the group that kind of meets behind the scenes and are the powerhouse political strategists and fundraisers for George W. Bush.
02:06:21.000Two of the hundred Bush pioneers run Diebold.
02:06:56.000Now, by the way, for those that don't know, last time you were on a few months ago, and now it's broken, I mean, Baltimore Sun, you name it, Austin American Statesman, everything you said here on the show, that it's got wireless connections to the boxes they didn't tell anybody about, there's these three different levels of codes, hundreds of top programmers looked at it and agreed with your programmers, information, that these things are designed for backdoor
02:07:47.000They're saying, no, we want a paper ballot, we are not throwing away the evidence, and what's happened is I believe what we need to do now is start looking at the contributions to these organizations because I'll betcha that they went to the head of the League of Women Voters and to a couple other organizations and made hefty contributions.
02:08:08.000I also just found out today, now we are starting to get into the civil rights community with this, and they're implying that the civil rights community is behind this no paper trail voting.
02:08:49.000They were the League of Women Voters who happens to be a member and a couple
02:08:53.000of labor unions who happened to be a member.
02:08:55.000Okay, for folks that are missing what you're saying, that is.
02:08:58.000The establishment, the three voting machine companies, all CIA, government, senator connections, I mean, just unbelievable.
02:09:05.000With all the code source and all this, you know, corruption going on, that these are designed for this, they claim, oh yeah, well, the minorities want it, so you're racist and you're against it, which is just their classic tactic.
02:09:17.000But I would also add to this that we've only in a few cases have we seen attempts at censorship of this show and others.
02:09:24.000And when they were putting in electronic touchscreens last year, and we confronted them and exposed it, we had actual threats, phone calls, attempts at censorship on this issue by quote, members of the media here in Austin that are steering this and that were steering this into place.
02:09:40.000So this is very important to them because they know this means total control and domination.
02:09:48.000And I will tell you this, I have had six, count them, six investigative reporters for huge news outlets who have called me and privately told me that they have been lobbying to cover this story and they have been told by their management that they are not to cover it.
02:10:11.000Major papers have had to admit, they just calmly go, yeah, these things are built for fraud, totally designed, owned by the government, and weird shadowy gribs, and your vote doesn't count?
02:10:21.000And now on top of it, six major investigative journalists call you and say, I'm not allowed to report on this.
02:10:27.000Right, and it's so funny because they'll say, please keep sending me this stuff, and I wish I could break this, because there's something to break.
02:10:33.000I could get a Pulitzer out of this, you know?
02:10:36.000And they're like, but, you know, I'm not, Every time I put my proposal forward, it's not getting taken up on.
02:11:00.000And it's not the producers that are killing it.
02:11:02.000It's getting killed at management level.
02:11:04.000Well, right here in Austin, right here in Austin, Bev Harris, Danita Dubois, the county clerk, She got caught in 98 with the paper ballots, double counting ballot boxes, breaking safety seals, falsifying signatures.
02:11:16.000That was in the paper, but the state board said it was, quote, an accident.
02:11:20.000In the middle of the night at 2am, her good friend that was losing suddenly was winning.
02:11:25.000This all comes out, and now she's the one pushing the touch screens.
02:11:53.000My publisher, David Allen from Black Box Voting, he runs Plan 9 Publishing, he managed to get into this and it was actually quite funny because they had all this supposed security around their teleconference, but he actually dialed in and he signed in with his own name and no one asked him who he was.
02:12:11.000So he sat there and transcribed this meeting.
02:12:15.000And this meeting, which was between, understand, it was an insider meeting.
02:12:20.000What they were discussing, among other things, was can Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, defense contractors, you know, can they help us with our PR problem now, like they helped get the HAVA bill through?
02:12:34.000The HAVA bill is the bill that requires that we buy all these new touchscreen machines.
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02:17:29.000that's the game just dropped a major bombshell on us.
02:17:35.000The news you reported here a few months ago is now top story in a lot of big newspapers, but they never made it onto the nightly television news where most people get their propaganda.
02:17:46.000We talked to the head of Caspian, the group that exposes the whole cashless society and what's happening with the tracking there, about the secret meetings with the biometric consortium, the RFID consortium, With Governor Ridge of quote, making us take it in the name of fighting terrorism, we know that Lockheed Martin and others are involved in funding domestic propaganda operations.
02:18:17.000You're telling me the military industrial complex that in this discussion group, this closed Secret Conference!
02:18:29.000That you guys got into, Beth Harris, that they were discussing using the military-industrial complex to smash opposition to this.
02:18:38.000Please tell us, please give us the details.
02:18:41.000Yes, what happened is they set up, okay, well as we all know, we've been getting a lot of press for the problems and part of that comes from, well all of it comes from, the fact that we were able to find the cache of Diebold files, the Diebold voting machine files, 40,000 files they left on a website.
02:18:58.000We were able to analyze those and find how incredibly flawed they were and that indeed they do appear to be set up just specifically to allow backdoor entrance into manipulating the vote.
02:19:10.000Well, that's made the papers and of course now the industry has kind of a black eye and they're trying to think of any way they can to get out of offering a paper trail.
02:19:20.000A paper trail, voter verified ballots, that just means you look at the ballot and it's kept in a ballot box like we've been doing since the beginning of time.
02:19:32.000So, the industry had a meeting to figure out what to do about this PR fiasco.
02:19:38.000In the meeting, it was set up, by the way, very inappropriately by the election center, which is supposed to represent the voters and the people, set up a meeting with a lobbyist and the vendor to deal with this PR problem.
02:19:52.000The lobbyist that was running the meeting was the ITAA.
02:19:56.000It's a series of initials that stands for a bunch of things.
02:20:00.000Suffice it to say, it's very tightly connected to another bunch of initials, SAIC, which is a big Pentagon contractor.
02:20:13.000Let me draw this loop for you, and I'm sorry to have to come up with things with initials, but the military likes to do things with initials.
02:20:22.000Diebold's software is exposed to be flawed.
02:20:25.000They then get the state of Maryland and the state of Ohio to request a supposed independent investigation of Diebold's security.
02:20:34.000They commission a group called SAIC to do the supposedly independent evaluation of Diebold's voting machine security.
02:20:42.000The SAIC is mainly a Pentagon contractor.
02:20:46.000It's sort of like a mercenary version of the CIA in much of what it does.
02:20:50.000It's like a corrupt five-time convicted felon who is the informant who they then call in to testify against you in court and you can't bring up the fact that it's a convicted felon with charges against him and if they don't testify they're going to jail.
02:21:07.000So it's some government owned and run quasi-public private group.
02:21:11.000Oh, it's a private group that does C.I.A.
02:21:15.000It does surveillance and it does all kinds of things like that.
02:21:18.000Oh, what a nice group to tell us Diebold is good!
02:21:20.000Yeah, it's basically a mercenary C.I.A.
02:21:23.000that does other things too, but their job is to come up with the report on Diebold.
02:21:29.000Except their senior vice president is the director for the I.T.A.A., which is in there saying they're going to lobby to whitewash this whole thing.
02:21:40.000The supposedly independent Pentagon contractor, who's supposed to do an independent evaluation of Diebold security, they're tied to the lobbying group that is promising to whitewash this thing.
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02:23:52.000My friends, I want you to understand the magnitude of this.
02:23:59.000In my Our own life here in Austin, the people running this system have threatened us, tried to keep this information from going on the air.
02:24:08.000They've got the local media involved on the board of this, profiting from it.
02:24:16.000And then you look at it nationally, they have all these top computer programmers look at just one of the companies' software and it's designed with secret back doors and wireless connections and you've got The government and the CIA, we talked about this months ago when she was on the show, Bev Harris.
02:24:36.000All of this, and then now you find out that there's a PR campaign to use the Defense Department's money and the private defense contractor's money to lobby and propagandize to suppress the people and the media that is starting to learn of this.
02:24:51.000And they're counting on you going, oh Martha, they'd never steal the election, they'd never have a fraud set up like that.
02:25:03.000Bev Harris, what else came out in this secret meeting that you guys were able to get in on between the lobbyists, the vendors, the military-industrial complex folks?
02:25:17.000A good bit of discussion about well we want to make sure the media never finds out about this and I have to say that the folks that were listening in were having a really hard time not saying anything because they did sign in under their own name.
02:25:29.000What happened is they had everybody sign in and say who they were but everybody called in at once and they kind of just I guess didn't pay attention, because there was also a reporter from the Beacon Journal in Akron.
02:25:40.000Oh, so now it's not just... We kicked off a few people and said, you know, go on in and see what you can hear, and that's exactly what happened.
02:25:47.000But yeah, there was a good bit of conversation about, well, we'd better check in with antitrust regulations, and we don't want anyone talking about collusion and things like this.
02:25:58.000Now, understand that any industry can set up a lobbying thing.
02:26:03.000And in setting such a thing up, they would certainly want to discuss antitrust issues.
02:26:10.000What was very unusual about this is this.
02:26:12.000Now, if you're an industry, and you're legit, and you're setting up a lobbying thing, The group of people from the industry would get together, they would probably interview a few lobbyist firms.
02:26:25.000What happened is the lobbying firm shows up and says, we need money by Friday.
02:26:31.000And they said, you know, don't want to say the term knife in the back, but you know, those who are not members, well, if they get into trouble, it looks like they would want to become members.
02:26:59.000And if they get away with taking our elections away and let the CIA run it, I mean, folks, you're going to lose your Second Amendment, your borders, and they're going to say, well, it's a democracy, you voted for it, didn't you?
02:27:12.000That's why they want to get us away from a republic, because even if they control the voting machines, a republic would still have the Bill of Rights, not in a pure democracy.
02:27:21.000Now, Bev Harris, for those that just joined us, you've got an incredible track record yourself.
02:27:26.000Tell us a little bit about Bev Harris, and then let's go back into some more of this.
02:27:29.000Well, I don't know why I ended up with this thing, frankly.
02:27:35.000I ran a PR agency, but I've been a writer for many years.
02:27:39.000And in the course of my writing career, I did a lot of work on financial fraud stuff, and so I had a pretty good idea of how people do shenanigans like this.
02:28:11.000Right, that was one of the first things that clued me in.
02:28:13.000It was like, my gosh, you have a guy, at that time it was in October, and he was running for office.
02:28:18.000He had an election in a month, and he's running for office, and he's got ownership, and his campaign finance director was the main owner of the company that's counting all his votes.
02:28:28.000And it was not disclosed on his disclosure document.
02:28:31.000And so, I thought, well, we've got a problem.
02:28:34.000By the way, Bev, the polls, we have the articles, showed him way behind.
02:28:40.000Now, Hagel was ahead in the polls, but he He still had anomalies in the type of win that he did.
02:28:48.000Wait, I've got some of the articles, and last time you were on with us you were going over that, that some of the polls showed Hagel way behind and that it was a big up step.
02:28:55.000Oh, I think that was Cleland that we're talking about.
02:28:57.000Yeah, there were some situations like that.
02:28:59.000Cleland was ahead in the polls, and that was Georgia.
02:29:03.000Georgia had actually six upsets that did not match the polls.
02:29:07.000And Georgia used all these unauditable touch screens.
02:29:34.000And so, yes, you know, Matolka figured that Hagel has a bit of an advantage there.
02:29:40.000But what was odd was that Hagel won demographic groups that always go Democrat.
02:29:46.000He won the black areas of Omaha, you know?
02:29:48.000I mean, and it was not really to be expected.
02:29:51.000And then he comes forward and he starts bragging on his website that he won with the biggest margin in history.
02:29:57.000Well, you know, 85% of his votes were counted by his own machine.
02:30:02.000So then his opponent, Charlie Matelka, who's a candidate, he had standing for a recount.
02:30:08.000And because the margin wasn't close, he couldn't get an automatic recount funded by the state.
02:30:15.000But you can get a recount if you're a candidate if you pay for it.
02:30:19.000So he said, OK, I'm going to pay for it.
02:30:20.000Now let's look at these ballots that my opponent ran through his own machine.
02:30:26.000And the state of Nebraska, if you can believe it, said, well, you can pay for the recount, but all we will do is run the ballot through Hagel's machines again.
02:30:36.000We have no provision in the law to let you look at the actual ballots that were used.
02:30:40.000Now, that was back with the hybrid ballots, where it's an electronic machine, you feed... Right, that's the option we have.
02:30:45.000...the scan-tron styles, and that's what we've been caught with fraud.
02:30:48.000I mean, they've been caught with fraud in Austin with those, and the same people running the fraud have now put in the touchscreens and threatened folks that talk about it.
02:30:58.000There's a reason they want these touch screens so desperately, and that is because I think Florida scared the heck out of them.
02:31:04.000While everyone was talking about punch cards, my theory on Florida is the thing that really put fear into these people is the optical scans.
02:31:14.000Diebold optical scans counted 40% of Florida in the year 2000.
02:31:20.000Now, if they had hand-counted every single one of those Diebold optical scans immediately after the election, statewide, I think some things would have come out that would have been impossible to deny.
02:31:32.000Well, we have election after election, Bev Harris, where voter news services would tell us who had won, and the next day we found out a whole state went different than what they said.
02:31:44.000And you always, again, have these weird CIA companies and senators and people involved.
02:31:51.000Yeah, the people involved are just wrong.
02:31:55.000And then, we've got a situation now, now this is kind of how I see things, and this is speculative, so we'll label it, Dev Harris' speculation, okay?
02:32:06.000But here's what I'm seeing it shake down to.
02:32:09.000We have the defense industry who was pushing the move toward unauditable voting, toward getting rid of the paper trail.
02:32:17.000That we know from the meeting, because they came right out and said it.
02:32:20.000And number one, why is the Defense Department, and then private There's a military industrial complex around it that Eisenhower warned us would try to overthrow the country.
02:32:44.000They have been involved through making voting machines, they're involved in the voter registration system, and they're involved in a new thing now.
02:32:51.000Now here's what I see coming down the pipe.
02:33:33.000What Vote Here does is they create a software program with cryptography that is supposed to verify our vote as voters, so we don't need paper.
02:33:45.000And then everybody, of course, will sign off on this.
02:33:47.000You know, the defense contractors and the Homeland Security and they'll say, oh, yes, this is bulletproof.
02:33:53.000You have to trust it if it's got a vote here inside it, you see.
02:33:57.000And so I think what it's aiming toward is you're going to see a move unless we're and we're doing some pretty good work here to Uh, get the right questions asked, so it may be more difficult than they expected.
02:34:10.000You're gonna see a move, though, to try to switch again and say, okay, well the voters insist on a voter-verified paper ballot.
02:34:58.000And it will go in these voting machines and be the new gold standard so that we should just trust them and we know we never again need a paper ballot.
02:35:05.000Well, Bev Harris, let me stop you for just a minute.
02:35:08.000Let me stop, because this is just bombshell after bombshell, and I'm begging the listeners, you know who we are, just like the Catherine Albrecht interview that you did a transcript of, I'm begging you, do the transcript, get it to Paul Watson, we'll get it up on PrisonPlanet.com, up on InfoWars.com, so we don't have to wait four months or three months for this to show up in the mainstream media with a spin on it, and we'll put links, of course, to BlackBoxVoting.com and have all that there for folks, so we can get it out to everybody.
02:35:36.000The key here is, Bev, were you aware of the folks over at NoCards, the involved Catherine Albrecht, she went to the meetings and then they got off one of the websites that had a back door in it, the documents with the RFID tracker chips they want to replace the barcode with, and the secret meeting with Walmart and Dr. Gamble.
02:36:00.000Yeah, with Homeland Security talking about how to neutralize us, how to neutralize opposition, I mean, and how to get the military-industrial complex involved.
02:36:34.000I knew that there was a Vote Here situation and that there was defense people involved in that, but I couldn't quite figure out what Vote Here did until this meeting.
02:36:42.000But when we heard, and they were, I'm telling you, there was like two paragraphs of conversation about the defense industry and how it had pushed HAVA bill through and how maybe they could come in and help us now.
02:36:55.000By the way, there's two websites with this, but blackboxvoting.com does have the transcript on it.
02:37:01.000It's not a complete transcript and it does have my publisher's fairly opinionated notes along with it.
02:37:16.000We've already caught them that the voting machines are a fraud.
02:37:19.000We've got the League of Women Voters saying we don't want a paper ballot or a record.
02:37:23.000We've got all this other police state stuff going on.
02:37:28.000And then you guys get into one of these little secret meetings, and you've got the plain dealer Cleveland newspaper person hearing all this.
02:38:07.000Okay, what we have to do is we have to do this and this, but the bottom line is I've tried really hard not to read, and I did, you know, label just now.
02:38:15.000Speculation is speculation with what I'm talking about, but this stuff is fact.
02:38:55.000If they control the government, the government's going to give them more awards for more weapons, but also the private defense contractors are getting into private prisons.
02:39:03.000Homeland Security security operations, the face scanning cameras, the biometrics, all of it, the RFIDs.
02:39:13.000I mean, they're going to build a giant prison for us.
02:39:18.000This is a late night science fiction horror movie from the 1980s.
02:39:22.000You know, the one thing we have going for us is that when you have all that data and they crunch all those things, Eventually, it comes down to a human who has to go to his boss and say, I think we should look into so-and-so.
02:39:35.000Now, this is a very bad thing because we can assume they're going to look into a lot of people that are very inappropriate.
02:39:41.000But, in the bottom line is, some human has to eventually look at all that data.
02:39:46.000So, it's extremely inappropriate that they're collecting it.
02:39:49.000But, I have to say, I sometimes kind of smile and think, what in the world do they think people...
02:39:54.000At some point, if you do surveillance on all these people, I can tell you, if they were doing surveillance on the six telephone lines that I have in my office and house, they would have to listen to five teenagers discussing their boyfriends and their nails.
02:40:08.000At some point, some poor schmo is going to have to actually go through all this stuff and decide what's important.
02:40:18.000I think that may be the thing that saves us at some point, because they won't get the... Well, no, it's true.
02:40:22.000The reason they're announcing Echelon is watching this and you don't have any rights is a chilling effect.
02:40:28.000They don't have the personnel, even with the computers, to do anything with this.
02:40:31.000We're on the march, they're on the run, but... So they'll get a couple of key people that they can use as a public example.
02:40:37.000But, Bev, they're still putting in the systems, no matter how much fraud comes out.
02:40:44.000It's getting to the point where we need to... I'm saying we are at Boston Tea Party stage, okay?
02:40:51.000This is really sad because we are getting quite a few little emails putting us on notice that are looking into it is putting us into legal jeopardy.
02:41:03.000And I look at that as the Boston Tea Party.
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02:46:00.000There's going to be a link that he posts.
02:46:02.000He's going to post the rig-a-vote kit, which is using actual files from Diebold.
02:46:06.000What he has been doing is put it on a CD, he's taking it around and visiting his newspaper officer's editors and saying, let me put this on your computer, we're going to walk through this together.
02:46:15.000I'll show you how to rig your own election.
02:46:17.000and here and and now this is not designed to show people how to read
02:46:21.000election it's designed to show newspaper editors the back doors into the system
02:46:25.000he said he is routinely picking up jog off the floor they cannot believe what they're seeing and in his
02:46:32.000kit which he's which will be with a link will be posted to and I'm like gonna
02:46:36.000encourage people to grab it quick because you know it'll get all the sample for those who don't know
02:47:05.000Now, one of the things he found, though, was he found an actual, he found a smoking gun.
02:47:10.000He found an actual file of actual votes for San Luis Obispo County, California, that is, let's just say, a problem.
02:47:19.000Now, you know what they're supposed to do.
02:47:22.000All the precincts vote, they close down the polls, they tally up the precincts.
02:47:27.000Somebody explain why there's a file that was left on the Debold FTP site where they tallied up the votes from all 51 precincts in that county at 3.31 in the afternoon and it can only have been done via wireless electronic means.
02:47:43.000Because otherwise they would have had to shut down all 51 polling places and plug in a modem.
02:49:00.000Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com 1-888-253-3139 The kind of people that'll do stuff like this have got some really nasty stuff planned, folks.
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