Alex Jones Show - 20031007_Tue_Alex

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00:00:13.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:17.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:19.000 You want answers?

00:00:20.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:21.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:26.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:33.000 Alex Jones, I'm Michael Corbin.

00:00:35.000 Alex is away on business and we'll be back and return to the airwaves on Thursday.

00:00:39.000 We've got quite a lineup for you today.

00:00:43.000 Get sat down and get ready, because we're going to take you on a tour through several different interesting things that are developing.

00:00:51.000 The first thing we're going to be talking about today, at the bottom of the hour, we're going to be joined by Pamela Hennessey.

00:00:56.000 She is the volunteer media coordinator for the Schindler family.

00:00:59.000 Now, some of you may not have heard of the Schindler family, but we're going to be talking about that.

00:01:05.000 Basically what the Schindler family saga is about is a woman lies in a state of coma in the hospital in Florida and the courts are attempting to have her tube removed which would essentially cause her to die.

00:01:20.000 Her family is fighting a very, very hard struggle to stop this action from taking place, and we were just informed today that Governor Jeb Bush in Florida has ordered a temporary stay, and that what they're trying to do, he actually filed a memorandum in support of preliminary injunction in the case of disabled Pinellas County woman, and we're going to talk about that with Pamela Hennessy at the bottom of the hour.

00:01:45.000 It's quite a story.

00:01:46.000 You know, it kind of reflects the attitude and the mindset of the people that are running this country today.

00:01:53.000 Who would have ever thought that the government would have the authority to decide whether you live or die?

00:02:02.000 But of course, as this plan to take control of all of our lives, as it continues to unfold, that is their goal.

00:02:10.000 That's one of their goals.

00:02:11.000 And one of the things you really need to be aware of is that For example, Terry Schiavo, who is the person that is lying this whole thing with the courts, the only reason that they want to disconnect her tube and cause her to die is because she's made herself vulnerable because of a $750,000 medical fund that she acquired via a medical malpractice lawsuit payable to her inheritor when she dies.

00:02:41.000 So, the inheritor is her husband.

00:02:43.000 So, essentially, her husband is capable of making the choices to do this, and the government is more than willing to step up to the plate and end this woman's life. 0.95

00:02:55.000 I think it's absolutely ridiculous, and we're going to talk about that.

00:02:59.000 Then, coming up at the top of the second hour, we're going to be joined by Paul, let me get to his name here, Paul Watson.

00:03:08.000 Joseph Watson.

00:03:09.000 Sorry about that.

00:03:10.000 Paul Joseph Watson is going to join us.

00:03:12.000 Out of Order.

00:03:14.000 He's got a book called Order Out of Chaos.

00:03:16.000 Elite Sponsored Terrorism in the New World Order.

00:03:18.000 Now, his book blows wide open the official story behind a multitude of both historical and modern day events.

00:03:26.000 Now, Paul Watson uses mainstream media reports to exhaustively document how governments are exploiting and even carrying out terrorist attacks to further their unified political agendas.

00:03:36.000 If you remember, yesterday we were joined by Paul David Collins, who was talking about state-sponsored terrorism.

00:03:42.000 Now, every reference article in Watson's book is available online, so you can cross-check the facts for yourself.

00:03:49.000 We're going to find out today when we talk to him how both the Clinton and Bush administrations protected Osama Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda network before September the 11th.

00:03:59.000 We're also going to find out about the highest levels of the U.S.

00:04:01.000 government were complicit in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

00:04:06.000 Many of the named 9-11 suicide hijackers are still alive.

00:04:11.000 And the real culprits have never been officially identified.

00:04:14.000 That's interesting.

00:04:15.000 British MI5 has infiltrated the IRA and they're carrying out terrorist attacks to maintain a divided Ireland.

00:04:22.000 We're also going to hear from him on chaos mongers who are arming tyrants worldwide as a pretext for endless war and empire building.

00:04:30.000 And of course, this is something that has been demonstrated numerous times in the mainstream press.

00:04:34.000 We're also going to talk about a despotic New World Order and how it's being constructed, how it threatens us all, and what we can do to stop it.

00:04:41.000 And of course, the other interesting thing, as I mentioned yesterday, we're going to be joined by Greg Pallast, who just released an article called Arnold's Enron Secret.

00:04:50.000 We're going to come to all of that, coming back from the break, and we'll get to that too.

00:04:55.000 You're going to like that story about Arnold, and of course we're going to be joined at some point today by Alex Jones, who is going to give us a special report.

00:05:01.000 Stay tuned, you're listening to the Alex Jones Show.

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00:08:13.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And returning today, sitting in for Alex is Michael Corbin.

00:08:20.000 I'm here with Michael Corbin.

00:08:22.000 Alex is away on business.

00:08:23.000 He will return on Thursday.

00:08:25.000 I'll be with you tomorrow as well.

00:08:26.000 And we're going to cover some very interesting topics between now and tomorrow.

00:08:30.000 And of course, when Alex returns, he will also continue bringing you breaking news and keeping you abreast of what's going on.

00:08:38.000 Now, as I mentioned, we're going to have Terri, Pamela Hennessey is going to join us at the bottom of the hour to talk about the case of Terri Schiavo. 1.00

00:08:45.000 And that's going to be very interesting.

00:08:47.000 And also, some of the things that are happening in the news today that you can find on www.infowars.com.

00:08:54.000 We're going to cover some of those real quick before we get to our guest.

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00:09:13.000 Now, coming off of the InfoWars.com site, there was an interesting story today.

00:09:17.000 There's actually several interesting stories, but the one that Particularly, I found interesting is Israel has gotten the green light from George Bush to strike Syria's terrorist base.

00:09:30.000 Now, this is kind of an interesting article because this comes off of the AP, but essentially what's going on here is that the Israeli warplanes attacked an Islamic Jihad training base deep in Syria for retaliation in a suicide bombing at a Haifa restaurant that killed 19 people.

00:09:47.000 Now, Israeli media said that it was the first Israeli attack on Syrian soil in more than two decades.

00:09:53.000 The strike, which occurred late Saturday or early Sunday, targeted the Ainshah Saheb camp about 10 miles northwest of Damascus, and that was according to Israeli officials.

00:10:04.000 The base was being used by several terrorist organizations, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, the army statement said.

00:10:11.000 Now, Syria has been warned more than once by the United States that it should close all of the facilities of the Islamic Jihad.

00:10:20.000 Apparently it has not done so, and it is their policy, the Israelis' policy, after what happened in Haifa, to go after Islamic Jihad wherever they are.

00:10:29.000 Well, the Syrian government has made no immediate response.

00:10:33.000 Now, speaking on the Al Jazeera television network, Abu Imad al-Rafai, an Islamic Jihad spokesman in Beirut, Lebanon, he denied that there were any Islamic Jihad bases in Syria.

00:10:43.000 Now, the interesting thing is that on April the 16th, 2001, Israeli warplanes blasted a Syrian radar station in Lebanon, where Syria is the main power broker, killing three Syrian soldiers.

00:10:55.000 That strike was the first in five years against the Syrian military, and came in retaliation for an attack by Syrian-backed guerrillas in which an Israeli soldier was killed.

00:11:05.000 Now, the interesting thing about this article is that, kind of in keeping with some of the ideas that I've been tracking, Syria is one more of those stepping stones before Iran, and then ultimately my belief is that the goal is to control the entire Middle East, Because when you get right down to it, our government, in conjunction with the Israeli government, desires to control the oil, because that would... You know, oil is one of those things that every nation in the world, no matter where you are, every nation in the world requires some form or derivative of oil.

00:11:43.000 And, you know, when you're talking about the New World Order and the people that are trying to take control of everything, it stands to reason that you would want to control one of the most important items on the planet, and that is oil.

00:11:57.000 With that control, you would be able to bring any nation to its knees, and control it economically and politically.

00:12:05.000 And I think that's kind of an interesting thing, because that is where I think a lot of this is going.

00:12:11.000 The other thing that was interesting, too, is Big Brother is now watching your children.

00:12:15.000 And we've got a couple of articles on Infowars.com you want to check out.

00:12:19.000 One of them is about security cameras that are watching Lee Lee School.

00:12:22.000 I think that's the proper way to pronounce it, I'm not sure.

00:12:25.000 But anyway, this is very interesting, because as you know, they will go to any extreme, any length.

00:12:33.000 to make sure that they get this uh... they get this plan into place uh... this comes this article comes from uh... uh... let's see here to the news press published by newspress dot com uh... and its security cameras that are watching the lee lee school this is the first high school uh... in collier with this system and uh... the article goes on to say that graffiti sprayers burglars and other criminals beware personally always preface uh... these kinds of actions with You know, a thing that is somewhat justifiable or makes you feel more comfortable with what they're doing.

00:13:08.000 The article says Big Brother is watching you at Lely High School.

00:13:11.000 He's also watching students moving from class to class, eating in the cafeteria, and hanging out in the courtyards.

00:13:18.000 The school just became the first in Collier County to install security cameras in hallways, the cafeteria courtyards, and around the outside of the school.

00:13:26.000 The system, with 30 cameras, cost $40,000, but school officials say it's worth it.

00:13:32.000 Yes, I am enthusiastic about the camera, said Ed Messer, Manager for District Safety and Security.

00:13:38.000 He says it's not a privacy issue anymore, it's a safety issue.

00:13:42.000 Of course.

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00:13:45.000 We can provide safety for you.

00:13:47.000 No longer about privacy.

00:13:48.000 Schools that are safer are smarter, and that's our job.

00:13:52.000 Again, that's a load.

00:13:53.000 Bob Friedland, assistant principal at Lely High School, can sit in his office and see what is happening all over his school.

00:14:00.000 Now, from his computer, he can zoom the cameras in and out, pan and tilt, and record the video.

00:14:05.000 Top school officials at the district level can do the same from the administration building.

00:14:09.000 There's also another article on Infowars.com that says, spying on your teens via satellite for $600.

00:14:16.000 Now, this is an interesting concept.

00:14:20.000 This is from Australia.

00:14:21.000 The tracking units to monitor children and teenagers are disguised as watches, mobile phones, and belts.

00:14:28.000 And they've hit Australia to the outrage of civil libertarians and parent groups.

00:14:32.000 Now, the latest in spy gadgets available in Australia are being marketed to anxious parents.

00:14:38.000 They include a computer device and software that can record email and chat room conversations, and a clothing spray that can tell if teens are having sex.

00:14:48.000 Australian company Internav's mobile phone sized global positioning system tracking device has emergency alarm button and software so parents can zoom in on a child's whereabouts using a home computer.

00:15:00.000 Now this device is going to cost $895.

00:15:02.000 Again, you know, these are examples of how silly things are getting, you know.

00:15:09.000 The other thing we're looking at too is Skull and Bones.

00:15:14.000 Now, there was a recent program on 60 Minutes about the Skull and Bones.

00:15:17.000 Alexander Robbins, I believe, was featured on that.

00:15:20.000 The Skull and Bones, as many of you probably know, is the Yale secret society that our president and his father and a lot of other social engineers have belonged to.

00:15:31.000 A lot of people suspect or believe that the Skull and Bones is like the center of the onion in some ways.

00:15:39.000 It provided the nexus for where these guys all got together and, you know, planning their takeover of the world.

00:15:46.000 It's interesting to note that a lot of interesting people have been members of Skull and Bones throughout the years, and even the history of it is kind of interesting to track.

00:15:57.000 Now, the other thing we're looking at, too.

00:16:03.000 Finally, somebody got wise to something that was going down in Florida.

00:16:07.000 The suicide webcast was killed.

00:16:08.000 Okay, this is the webcast of a concert by a Florida band.

00:16:12.000 Hell on earth that was supposed to occur this past Friday night and feature a live suicide did not happen.

00:16:19.000 And kind of along that same line, kind of illustrating how Hollywood is warping the minds of your children, there's a new movie out called Kill Bill.

00:16:27.000 Quentin Tarantino has been pushing the extreme violence to 12-year-old kids.

00:16:32.000 And this is sick. 0.60

00:16:35.000 It's very sick.

00:16:37.000 The film is Tarantino's first major film since Jackie Brown, six years ago.

00:16:41.000 And it tells the story of an elite assassin, played by Uma Thurman, who is on a mission of revenge against her former employer, Bill, played by David Carradine.

00:16:50.000 Now, Kill Bill is reported to be extremely gory, even for Tarantino, well known for his violent gangster flicks.

00:16:56.000 Uh, such as Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, as well as the shock horror vampire movie, From Dusk Till Dawn.

00:17:03.000 Now, at a press conference before the London premiere on Thursday, Tarantino said that over 100 gallons of fake blood had been used for the movie, and described how one fight scene in which Thurman dismembers 88 opponents with a Japanese sword took over eight weeks to shoot.

00:17:20.000 Uh, she says, uh, or Tarantino said that he wanted to think of every way he could for her to disband and put an end to her enemies.

00:17:29.000 Now, the director went on to talk about a gang rape scene in the movie, which he said was a sequence of hell of which he was very proud.

00:17:35.000 Now, seated next to Thurman and other stars in the film, Daryl Hannah and Julie Dreyfuss, Tarantino said Kill Bill was a feminist statement, a film about girl power.

00:17:46.000 Oh, God.

00:17:47.000 Thurman also told journalists that her favorite scenes were when she used her sword.

00:17:51.000 She says, I'm a very possessive person of my sword.

00:17:54.000 She became one with it, she earned it, and she has to learn the hard way how to handle that thing.

00:18:00.000 Well, Kill Bill is in two installments, with a second volume expected to be released next year.

00:18:04.000 Again, this is an example of, you know, how Hollywood is, you know, really got their sights set There's a dynamic here.

00:18:18.000 When they use violence, oftentimes they use sex and violence together.

00:18:23.000 People wonder why no one has any respect for women.

00:18:27.000 They wonder how come our children have a confusion about their sexuality.

00:18:32.000 And not only that, what's expected of them as boys and girls or as men and women, Because Hollywood sends out one message and then society dictates another.

00:18:41.000 You know, we've been talking, at times, we talk about moral relativism.

00:18:44.000 Well, if it's okay, if it's my truth, it's okay for me, I can do this.

00:18:49.000 And this is what the movies teach kids to believe.

00:18:51.000 And then, of course, when they go out and do that, you know, you end up with all kinds of horrendous, horrific things occurring as a result of this.

00:18:59.000 And if you ever wonder why your kids are confused, well, that's a big part of it.

00:19:03.000 Because Hollywood is trashing their minds.

00:19:06.000 Uh, and you know, that's something that parents have a responsibility to make sure that their kids are not filling their minds. 0.97

00:19:12.000 I mean, you put garbage in, you're going to get garbage out.

00:19:15.000 And Hollywood has taken a tremendous role. 0.99

00:19:18.000 And facilitating the deconstruction of your minds.

00:19:23.000 Not just kids, but also adults as well.

00:19:25.000 This is just another example of this.

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00:24:55.000 business out there with Arnold Schwarzenegger. We're going to hear from Greg Palast during

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00:25:09.000 Enron secret. That's going to be very interesting.

00:25:12.000 That's a nine billion dollar secret that he has and there's a lot at stake of course.

00:25:16.000 Nine billion dollars is a lot of money.

00:25:18.000 But anyway, coming up, as I mentioned earlier, at the bottom of the hour, we're going to be joined by Pamela Hennessey. 0.89

00:25:23.000 I want to read to you real quick a letter from Terry Schiavo's father, who has appealed, he's gotten injunctions to stop the feeding tube from being removed.

00:25:34.000 Judge Greer in Florida has ruled three separate times to have it removed.

00:25:38.000 It was clamped once.

00:25:40.000 For 60 hours.

00:25:41.000 I mean, this is the most heinous thing that I've ever heard.

00:25:45.000 This is, again, from Terry Schiavo's father.

00:25:47.000 Dear friends, in a trial initiated by Michael Schiavo, a verdict was issued by Circuit Court Judge George W. Greer on February 11, 2000.

00:25:57.000 Judge Greer granted authorization to stop feeding Terry.

00:26:00.000 Judge Greer's verdict will cause Terry to die in 10 to 14 days.

00:26:04.000 Terry will die of starvation.

00:26:05.000 Now, as I mentioned, this is an older letter, but the substance of what we are going to be talking about is contained in this.

00:26:11.000 Now, as Terry's father, I have been designated as spokesperson for the family, and more important, as a voice for Terry appealing to you to join us in our efforts to reverse this travesty of justice.

00:26:22.000 We have to save Terry's life.

00:26:24.000 Essentially, Terry has been sentenced to death.

00:26:27.000 We do not understand how, in a civilized society, that Terry's life was even put on trial.

00:26:33.000 Terry has not committed a felony or any crime.

00:26:36.000 Terry has not desecrated any commandment of God.

00:26:38.000 Terry has not violated any of society's laws.

00:26:42.000 Terry's only culpability is ironic.

00:26:44.000 She has made herself vulnerable because of a $750,000 medical fund that she acquired via a medical malpractice lawsuit payable to her inheritor when she dies.

00:26:55.000 Terry has no will.

00:26:56.000 The inheritor is her husband.

00:26:58.000 Now the precedence that Terry's trial and ensuing verdict establishes should frighten everyone.

00:27:03.000 Basically, any person that is impaired who cannot speak their mind is vulnerable to be legally executed. 1.00

00:27:10.000 In Terry's case, where money is the motivation, the risk increases substantially.

00:27:15.000 This ruling could potentially open the door to eventually include everyone who is a burden to his or her caretaker or a drain on the state.

00:27:25.000 The court's verdict endorses a current movement attempting to legalize euthanasia in the United States.

00:27:30.000 This is what this is really all about.

00:27:32.000 Now, after hearing Judge Greer's verdict, our family reacted with a variety of emotions.

00:27:36.000 The thought of our daughter's death by starvation is inexpressible.

00:27:39.000 There is also empathy for the parents and families of murder victims, particularly when the person guilty of committing the crime goes on trial and is acquitted due to dishonest testimony given by witnesses under an oath of God.

00:27:52.000 The frustration must be unbearable.

00:27:55.000 Now Terry's trial has attracted national media coverage.

00:27:58.000 People have responded from across the country offering their support.

00:28:01.000 There have been communications from people who also have family members impaired by brain damage and have recovered.

00:28:07.000 They relate scenarios where their family member was in the identical situation as Terry.

00:28:12.000 Like Terry, their child or sister would smile, laugh, cry, moan, show signs of recognition, and appear as if they were trying to speak.

00:28:20.000 In every case, the neurologist interpreted these actions as reflex.

00:28:24.000 In every case, the neurologist's prognosis indicated that there was absolutely no chance of recovery.

00:28:30.000 Remarkably, and contrary to the negative diagnosis, they report that there was recovery.

00:28:34.000 Most notable was a young man who walks daily, unassisted, on a treadmill, and a woman who, after 20 years, has fully recovered.

00:28:42.000 Now also, we have the recently publicized case of Patty White Bull, who recovered after 16 years, and Terry Wallace, who recovered after 19 years, in a condition similar to my daughter.

00:28:54.000 There is hope for Terri to recover.

00:28:56.000 She displays the exact characteristics as described by all the callers.

00:29:00.000 Her husband does not want anyone to believe that Terri is a living human being who consistently responds when stimulated.

00:29:06.000 He is well aware that he has denied Terri any opportunity to recover for the past 11 years.

00:29:11.000 Before we can concentrate on assisting Terri's recovery, the immediate priority is to stop Terri's execution.

00:29:17.000 We have to keep Terri alive.

00:29:19.000 We are dedicated to preserve Terri's life.

00:29:21.000 Terry does not deserve to have her precious life cut short.

00:29:25.000 Please help us.

00:29:27.000 We cannot do this alone.

00:29:28.000 Please join our family and make this a community effort to overturn this cruel verdict.

00:29:32.000 We must challenge this miscarriage of justice.

00:29:34.000 And indeed, we must.

00:29:36.000 And we are going to talk about it coming up next with Pamela Hennessey.

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00:33:41.000 get informed and stay informed okay Now, before we go to Pamela Hennessey, let's take a quick call.

00:33:46.000 We've got Paul calling in from New Jersey.

00:33:49.000 Good morning, good afternoon, Paul.

00:33:51.000 Hi, Michael.

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00:33:53.000 I just wanted to say that I don't believe there's any correlation that's really been proven between movie violence and real violence in a nation.

00:34:01.000 I do disagree with that because there has been a considerable amount of study on that.

00:34:07.000 I refer to Judith Riesman.

00:34:10.000 I don't know if Alex has had her on the program, but I've interviewed her.

00:34:14.000 She has spent a considerable amount of her life documenting the correlation between not only the You know, practical violence or violence that takes place in the world as a result of this.

00:34:28.000 But she's also documented chemical changes that occur to a person's brain by observing, watching this.

00:34:35.000 And there's also chemical changes that occur while watching pornography.

00:34:39.000 Now, Japan is a large consumer of violent films and even comic magazines for children.

00:34:39.000 Yeah.

00:34:46.000 Yeah.

00:34:46.000 And Japan has one of the lowest murder rates in the world.

00:34:50.000 Likewise, I think there are many countries throughout what would be considered a decadent Western nation, which have low murder rates, unless, of course, they start banning guns and generally importing third-world immigrants who generally perpetrate more of the crimes in Europe. 1.00

00:35:09.000 So I would contend, for most people and most kids, Watch a violent movie.

00:35:15.000 They're generally not going to commit acts of violence, and I don't think that happens frequently at all.

00:35:20.000 You know, Paul, I would say this.

00:35:21.000 I think the concern is legitimate, but I think the existing laws that restrict kids from seeing rated R movies are adequate.

00:35:28.000 I don't think that, you know, and I do believe that adults have the right to see violent movies.

00:35:33.000 Well, sure, you do, but here's the thing.

00:35:36.000 I would also concede that there may not be a direct Correlation.

00:35:41.000 But I think that the important factor to keep in mind is that when people watch extreme graphic violence, it does a couple of things.

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00:36:07.000 I appreciate your call.

00:36:08.000 Thank you very much.

00:36:09.000 We're going to move on to our guest, Pamela Hennessey. 0.99

00:36:13.000 Thank you very much again, Paul.

00:36:14.000 Okay, now, Pamela Hennessey is the volunteer media coordinator for the Schindler family.

00:36:22.000 I'm going to bring her on and have her discuss this quite heart-wrenching story about Terry Schiavo.

00:36:29.000 Without further ado, good morning, Pamela.

00:36:31.000 You're on with me.

00:36:32.000 How are you, Michael?

00:36:32.000 Hi there.

00:36:33.000 I'm doing good.

00:36:35.000 I read the letter from Terry's father.

00:36:35.000 Good.

00:36:39.000 Which was very touching, and you know, this is quite a story.

00:36:39.000 Right.

00:36:42.000 Give us a little background on this.

00:36:43.000 What happened to Terry, and what's going on right now with her?

00:36:47.000 Okay, there's quite a bit going on at the moment.

00:36:50.000 The thumbnail of the case is, in 1990, Terry collapsed.

00:36:54.000 He suffered a cardiac arrest.

00:36:57.000 The cause of which is still unknown.

00:37:00.000 Some media reports she had a heart attack, but that's not true.

00:37:04.000 In any event, during this collapse of this medical incident, oxygen was cut off to her brain for several minutes, and because of that, she suffered profound cognitive disability.

00:37:18.000 At that stage, Terry's husband, Michael Chivo, Uh, filed a medical malpractice suit.

00:37:26.000 He asked for $20 million.

00:37:28.000 He said he was, uh, he expected his wife to live 50 or more years.

00:37:34.000 The jury awarded him, uh, just over $1.5 million.

00:37:39.000 And, uh, as soon as he had the money in the bank, he entered a, a do not resuscitate order into Terry, Terry's chart.

00:37:46.000 He ceased any aggressive therapy for her.

00:37:48.000 He's not given her therapy in over 11 years.

00:37:52.000 And he petitioned the courts in 1998 to remove Terry's gastric tube.

00:37:58.000 Terry receives nutrition and hydration via a G-tube and removing that tube will cause her to die of dehydration and starvation over the course of 10 to 14 days.

00:38:13.000 Pamela, let me ask you this.

00:38:14.000 I inaccurately report that she's in a coma.

00:38:16.000 Is she in a coma?

00:38:19.000 Is she awake?

00:38:20.000 She's definitely awake.

00:38:24.000 Terry has periods of sleeping and wakefulness.

00:38:29.000 She has a vocabulary.

00:38:31.000 She says things like mummy and help me and pain. 0.99

00:38:34.000 She's actually very much aware.

00:38:42.000 The courts have found her to be in a persistent vegetative state, but there are 14 doctors On record now, and under penalty of perjury, who say she is not, Persistent Vegetative State, or PVS, is misdiagnosed 43% of the time.

00:38:59.000 Sure, yeah.

00:39:01.000 And no, so she's definitely very aware, but she does have profound brain damage, and she's not been given therapy or rehabilitation, so she's not But she's still a living human being, which is the most important, paramount fact here.

00:39:15.000 Absolutely.

00:39:16.000 She's a living human being.

00:39:17.000 Yes, she certainly is.

00:39:18.000 And the problem with this particular court case and what is going on in Judge Greer's court, Florida has a very solid definition of what TVS is.

00:39:31.000 And that is somebody who is completely unaware of their environment and completely unable to interact.

00:39:39.000 Well, Terri does interact. 1.00

00:39:41.000 You know, she tries to speak.

00:39:43.000 She follows commands.

00:39:45.000 And the danger part in all of this is that video evidence was submitted into the court and Judge Greer and doctors appointed by the husband in this case, the husband who wants Terri dead, said, well, you know, she's doing something, but it's not very consistent.

00:40:04.000 So they're kind of lowering the bar for people who are disabled.

00:40:09.000 Pamela, let me ask you this.

00:40:10.000 The reason I want to ask you this is because I'm going in a direction with this.

00:40:14.000 I think the audience should understand a couple of elements here.

00:40:18.000 How did you get involved with this kind of a case?

00:40:22.000 I actually, I had read about Terry's case in the newspapers for a couple of years.

00:40:29.000 And in what I read, I always heard that she was comatose, she was hopeless, she was a vegetable. 0.99

00:40:36.000 And then one day I heard on talk radio, I heard a host talking about the case, saying that she was not.

00:40:44.000 So I went to the website, I read the court documents, I saw photographs of her, and what I saw horrified me.

00:40:54.000 And so I got involved immediately and offered my help to the family to get the word out there that Unfortunately, what's been reported in the media is just not correct.

00:41:06.000 What I'm amazed at in our culture today is the, you know, this is a culture of death.

00:41:11.000 That's correct.

00:41:12.000 It's been described that way by religious leaders, and you know, the whole thing is basically about death.

00:41:18.000 I mean, that's all there is to it.

00:41:21.000 Myself, personally, I take compassion, like you do, with the idea that I don't think under any circumstance the government or any person has the right to decide whether a person who's disadvantaged incredibly in the state, to decide for that person whether that person should live or die.

00:41:40.000 Well, I agree with you a hundred percent, and it's funny that you open this segment you know mentioning that it's important for people to do

00:41:49.000 their homework and to find things out for themselves

00:41:53.000 if your listeners will do a google or yahoo search on that phrase

00:41:58.000 culture of death uh... they'll actually find a lot of articles and a lot of

00:42:02.000 information that will probably frighten them

00:42:05.000 the culture of death is is uh... a movement that i truly believe is afoot in this

00:42:10.000 country and other countries to solve

00:42:13.000 profound medical challenges by causing someone to die.

00:42:17.000 Yeah, and this is happening in, although it's happening in the Nordic countries.

00:42:23.000 I mean, they already have euthanasia.

00:42:26.000 And the problem is, is that although they give you the hype that it's very controlled, state controlled, it's very controlled, The fact of the matter is that now it's becoming too convenient for the doctors and the medical people to just, you know, go ahead and do it.

00:42:43.000 Well, that's part of the problem.

00:42:46.000 And a doctor, a physician, takes a Hippocratic oath.

00:42:50.000 And one of the first and most important points of that Hippocratic oath is that they will do no harm.

00:42:56.000 That's right.

00:42:57.000 And in a case like Terry Schiavo, This is not allowing a terminally ill patient who would die naturally anyway.

00:43:07.000 It's not a case of a patient like that denying medical treatment.

00:43:14.000 I mean, what we're talking about is food and water.

00:43:16.000 Yeah.

00:43:17.000 And Terry's not terminal.

00:43:19.000 So that certainly is part of the problem.

00:43:23.000 Another thing to consider During the year 1938 to 1939, the Third Reich initiated the T4 euthanasia program. 0.69

00:43:34.000 Right.

00:43:34.000 And they started off with profoundly disabled and handicapped and mentally impaired children.

00:43:43.000 And then it got a little easier to lower the bar, and a little bit easier to lower the bar.

00:43:47.000 Precisely.

00:43:48.000 And a lot of very important historians believe that that was sort of a stepping stone into what happened, into the Holocaust. 0.61

00:43:56.000 You know, that's an interesting thing you brought up because one of the things that I believe personally is that once, and this even kind of reflects back on the call that we had just a minute ago with Paul about violence and that type of thing, I think once you get to a point where you're so desensitized to the dignity and the value of human life, It just becomes easy to justify this action and that action.

00:44:21.000 We analyze the activities of global elites that are enslaving the planet with these crazy notions.

00:44:31.000 They're actually the purveyors of the culture of death, I believe, because their whole goal is to control and manage the population.

00:44:38.000 They don't want too many of us.

00:44:39.000 They don't want us to think for ourselves. 0.98

00:44:41.000 They want to make Sure, that when they say drop dead, you drop dead. 0.98

00:44:46.000 That's their goal.

00:44:48.000 But the thing is, is that how have we been maneuvered into this kind of a position to where we're even asked to make this decision?

00:44:56.000 That boggles my mind.

00:44:58.000 You know, I just couldn't do it.

00:44:59.000 I was asked personally to give a no resuscitation order on my grandmother.

00:45:05.000 I refused to do it and the doctor and the nurse were very indignant about it and I was just I was shocked I was I was in shock when they asked me to make that decision and I said absolutely not.

00:45:16.000 I hear both sides of the argument.

00:45:19.000 You were bringing up the Florida legislation to define the permanent vegetative state and all of these different things.

00:45:29.000 To me, my statement is, I don't care about all that.

00:45:33.000 That's not important.

00:45:34.000 What's important is you have a human life here.

00:45:36.000 That person has as much right to life as anybody else, and no one should have the authority or the ability to make that decision for me.

00:45:44.000 No, you're absolutely right, and the decision to withhold nutrition and hydration from Terry Schiavo is being based on a concept that there is a quality of life, and who Seriously, who is to judge what quality of life is?

00:46:00.000 You know, the argument could easily be made that Terry is never going to run a marathon, she may never get a position in Congress.

00:46:11.000 Well, neither am I. I mean, we're using the wrong things to define what life is.

00:46:18.000 Life is no longer an aware A human being, life is what you're able to accomplish. 0.94

00:46:24.000 And that's not correct.

00:46:26.000 Or if you're a burden on the state, as Terry's father so aptly points out in his letter, if you're a burden to the state, if you're any kind of a problem to anybody, you know, this is the interesting thing, too, about the insurance question, you know, the health insurance question.

00:46:38.000 They're maneuvering people into believing, you know, they scare the heck out of you.

00:46:43.000 The insurance, again, this is my personal belief, insurance companies have actually got control of the medical market because they have allowed these prices to go so far out of reach that people can't afford healthcare.

00:46:58.000 And the insurance companies gain control over your destiny, your health destiny, and your life.

00:47:03.000 Because now they're in a position to dictate to the doctors and the hospitals what will be paid for and what will not be paid for.

00:47:10.000 And inside of that equation is the question of whether or not, if you reach a certain plateau of economic burden on them, Well, guess what?

00:47:19.000 They may say, we're not paying anymore.

00:47:21.000 So they're either going to turn you out to the street or they're going to euthanize you.

00:47:21.000 Yeah.

00:47:24.000 Exactly.

00:47:25.000 And while you're going down that road, you might as well include pharmaceutical companies.

00:47:28.000 Absolutely.

00:47:29.000 It's all part of the same beast.

00:47:31.000 The funny thing on this particular case, well, it's not funny.

00:47:35.000 The peculiar thing on Terry's case, Terry has had, you know, all these doctors come forward and offer to treat her, free of charge.

00:47:43.000 And still the judge has said no.

00:47:46.000 Somebody can sit back and kind of look at that and say, why are they so eager for this woman to die? 0.94

00:47:52.000 And I think what they're trying to do is sort of lower the bar.

00:47:57.000 Make it easier for the next person to go.

00:47:59.000 And it's important to remember that Florida has got a very high elderly population.

00:48:04.000 You betcha.

00:48:06.000 Good many of them.

00:48:07.000 We're up against a break.

00:48:08.000 We'll come back after the break and continue this.

00:48:08.000 Hold on.

00:48:10.000 You're a very courageous woman and I applaud you.

00:48:13.000 1-800-259-9231 is our number.

00:48:16.000 We'll be right back with Pamela Hennessey. 0.84

00:48:17.000 I'm Michael Corbin.

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00:51:40.000 And I want to encourage everyone in the audience.

00:51:40.000 Pamela Hennessey is joining me.

00:51:47.000 two five nine nine two three one one eight hundred two five nine nine two three one pamela

00:51:51.000 hennessy is joining me and uh...

00:51:54.000 i want to uh... encourage everyone in the audience this is something i think

00:51:57.000 is very very important everybody in the audience should take up

00:52:01.000 because the pamela is fighting for They should contact the governor's office in Florida, Jeb Bush, who has, Terry will report here, filed a motion in court.

00:52:12.000 I'll have her describe it.

00:52:14.000 I would encourage everyone to let the governor of Florida know that we will not tolerate state-sponsored executions of this nature.

00:52:24.000 Pamela, what has Jeb Bush done recently?

00:52:26.000 Well, as of today, Mr. Bush has filed an amicus brief into the case.

00:52:32.000 Now, there's not a lot there that I can really comment about without being an attorney, but your listeners can.

00:52:39.000 It is a public record, it is a court document, and they can view that on our updates if they go to Terry's website, and that is terrysfight.org, T-E-R-R-I-S, fight.org.

00:52:53.000 And that's been posted as of today.

00:52:56.000 So if they want to read that.

00:52:59.000 Unfortunately, as I said, since I'm not an attorney, they're going to have to form their own opinion on it.

00:53:04.000 But that was filed as of today.

00:53:08.000 What do you encourage people to do?

00:53:09.000 Should we tell them to contact the governor's office in Florida to let them know that they're not going to tolerate this?

00:53:15.000 That they do not want to see this happen?

00:53:17.000 Well, they can do that.

00:53:19.000 And that is an important thing to do.

00:53:22.000 One thing that I would like to say to your listeners that they really should do, you know, we're talking about this culture of death, and I think over the past 20 or so years, you know, attorneys have tried to encourage their clients through family law to have an advance directive or a living will or some other medical proxy that should they become incapacitated, what they will and will not accept as medical treatment, Your listeners need to re-examine the documents that they have governing their health care, and they should also seek out a life support directive.

00:54:03.000 Now, the reason I say that is because, like Florida, a lot of states are adapting statutes that say food and water is life support, which is ridiculous.

00:54:15.000 You and I need food and water.

00:54:18.000 So, I would say to your listeners that they really need to examine that and talk to their attorneys, talk to their spouses and to their children about what their precise wishes are and make sure that it does get into writing.

00:54:35.000 Terry had no living will and no advance directive.

00:54:38.000 Her husband testified in court, you know, she told me back in the 80s she wouldn't want to be on life support.

00:54:44.000 Well, that was before.

00:54:47.000 The Florida statutes change to include food and water as life support.

00:54:50.000 So there could be no way she addressed that.

00:54:53.000 Pamela, real quick, about a minute. 0.97

00:54:55.000 Where's her husband in all of this right now?

00:54:57.000 Is he fighting you folks?

00:54:59.000 No, well, he's fighting in the court for the right to have her gastric tube clamped off and to allow her to die.

00:55:06.000 And that's a process that can take 10 to 14 days and she will suffer. 0.99

00:55:10.000 And he has pursued this.

00:55:13.000 A lot of people ask, why doesn't he get a divorce?

00:55:16.000 and and that remains a mystery or outside pamela thank you very much and you're a good

00:55:21.000 woman keep it up i mean uh... i know what you must be going through since got to be 0.99

00:55:25.000 very very hard dealing with uh...

00:55:27.000 dealing with the system in this in this uh... way and uh...

00:55:31.000 uh... you know i just hope that uh... that it all hands out best

00:55:34.000 Well, I do as well, and thank you for having us on.

00:55:36.000 Okay, thank you very much.

00:55:38.000 You take care, okay?

00:55:39.000 You too, thank you.

00:55:39.000 God bless.

00:55:40.000 Okay, that's it for this hour.

00:55:42.000 Stay tuned, there's more coming up on the Alex Jones Show.

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00:55:56.000 Paul Joseph Watson will be joining me at the top of the hour.

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00:56:59.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:57:04.000 And again, sitting in for Alex is my Michael Corbin.

00:57:07.000 Alex will return on Thursday.

00:57:08.000 I'm going to be with you tomorrow.

00:57:11.000 I'm really enjoying this.

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00:57:15.000 I love the audience.

00:57:17.000 A very fine audience and a very fine program.

00:57:20.000 Now, as I mentioned, we're going to be joined by Paul Joseph Watson here in just a moment.

00:57:25.000 He wrote a book called Order Out of Chaos, the elite-sponsored terrorism and the New World Order.

00:57:29.000 And this kind of reflects back to yesterday's program when we talked with Paul David Collins about his book, The Hidden Face of Terrorism, and how a lot of terrorism is actually state-sponsored.

00:57:41.000 And when you get down to doing the math, It kind of makes sense, you know, and that's kind of what we're going to be talking about today.

00:57:47.000 He's going to talk about how both Bush and Clinton, again, you know, another thing I believe is that the bipartisan issue is nothing more than a smokescreen.

00:57:56.000 We heard from a caller yesterday about the socialism, you know, how he thought it was, you know, well and good and all of that.

00:58:03.000 That is nothing more than the club.

00:58:06.000 Socialism is the club that they are going to use to keep us all into a state of compliance.

00:58:12.000 They're not socialists at all. 0.92

00:58:14.000 If they're anything, if you really wanted to describe them, they're fascists.

00:58:20.000 But their whole goal is to control the entire human resource, and that's not a word I hate.

00:58:25.000 You know, you notice you go to these big corporations now for jobs.

00:58:28.000 You are dealing with the human resource department.

00:58:32.000 What that essentially equates to is, just like the thing we were talking about with Pamela Hennessey, there is no dignity of life anymore.

00:58:38.000 There is no dignity of the individual.

00:58:40.000 You are nothing more to them than an economic unit of measurement.

00:58:45.000 And this is precisely what the New World Order is about. 0.59

00:58:47.000 It's an economic world order.

00:58:48.000 It is nothing more than a bunch of money-grabbing control freaks Who want to manage every aspect of your life, and control you, and get you to produce the things that they want as they live in paradise, if you will.

00:59:06.000 And, you know, personally it's a very repugnant, repulsive thought, because I'm not an economic unit of measurement.

00:59:14.000 I am a human being, and I am a productive human being, and I have a mind, and I think for myself.

00:59:20.000 Thank you very much.

00:59:22.000 Uh, so I don't want them telling me what to do.

00:59:24.000 I despise them telling me I have to wear a seatbelt.

00:59:27.000 Uh, you know, I get tired of being told what to do.

00:59:29.000 And if you ever wonder, at the end of the month when you get your paycheck and you look at all this money that flies out of your account, you start to figure it out when you start looking at where all this money goes.

00:59:39.000 Because, you know, the very reason why you can't afford anything anymore is because They have homogenized everything in business.

00:59:47.000 They've distilled it down to just a few select corporations that own everything, and the prices are fixed, and they're designed to keep you with your nose to the grindstone, and constantly just breaking your backs, working hard, so that you have nothing at the end of the month, but you've got to keep paying them.

01:00:07.000 And, you know, it's like a catch-22, and it just keeps on going, and it keeps on going.

01:00:14.000 But anyway, also I want to mention, too...

01:00:16.000 That my program is called A Closer Look.

01:00:19.000 It's aired on Saturday night on GCN, the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:23.000 And of course, GCN, in my estimation, is the world's authority on what's really happening in the world because they have brought together a lot of very, very controversial talk show hosts who are out there doing the work and digging up this stuff and bringing this stuff to you so you can be informed.

01:00:40.000 And my program and Alex's program tackle very similar issues, and we really do cover the bases.

01:00:48.000 A Closer Look airs on Saturday evening at 6 to 8 Mountain, 8 to 10 Eastern, and I encourage you to listen to that program as well.

01:00:55.000 My website, too, is www.4acloserlook, that's the number 4, acloserlook.com.

01:01:03.000 I encourage you to go check that out as well.

01:01:06.000 Now, as I mentioned, we're going to be joined by Paul Joseph Watson coming up after the break.

01:01:13.000 And also, Alex will join us briefly during this hour to bring us a special report from Los Angeles on the Arnold Schwarzenegger debacle.

01:01:21.000 And as I mentioned, we're going to hear later on in the third hour from Greg Palast, who has dug up Arnold's Enron secret.

01:01:28.000 You may be getting closer to finding out what really the game is all about.

01:01:31.000 There's a couple of planks to it.

01:01:33.000 We're getting zeroed in on it, so stay tuned.

01:01:35.000 There's a lot more to come on the Alex Jones Show.

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01:04:59.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:05:04.000 And again, sitting in for Alex is Michael Corbin, and Alex is away.

01:05:08.000 He is going to be updating us from Los Angeles, California this morning, or this afternoon, I should say, in just a little bit.

01:05:16.000 He's out there covering the Arnold Schwarzenegger gubernatorial recall effort, and Arnold's Buying to take over as governor of the state of California.

01:05:27.000 And as we're finding out, there may be other reasons for why this is occurring.

01:05:32.000 This may have been something that's been brewing for a couple of years.

01:05:36.000 It's kind of like an insurance policy, if you will.

01:05:38.000 We're going to find out all about that, too, as we'll be joined by Greg Pallas during the third hour.

01:05:43.000 We're getting our guest, Paul Joseph Watson, lined up.

01:05:46.000 And in the meantime, I want to invite you to go to www.infowars.com.

01:05:53.000 There is a whole litany of breaking stories concerning the New World Order, what's going on with it, and the whole thing.

01:06:01.000 What's really interesting, there's an article on there from AP about the FBI sending Hamas money in the late 1990s.

01:06:07.000 Now, again, We're going to be talking about state-sponsored terrorism and how this kind of thing occurs.

01:06:15.000 And this article kind of illustrates that, again, you know, there's been some strange things going on.

01:06:22.000 As I mentioned, Paul Joseph Watson talks about how the Clinton administration and the Bush administration were helping to finance Osama bin Laden.

01:06:33.000 Now, again, this is an AP article concerning the FBI.

01:06:38.000 While President Clinton was trying to broker an elusive peace between Israelis and Palestinians, the FBI was secretly funneling money to suspected Hamas figures to see if the militant group would use it for terrorist attacks.

01:06:50.000 Of course they're going to use it for terrorist attacks!

01:06:52.000 Wonder what the heck they thought they were going to use it for?

01:06:54.000 Ooh.

01:06:56.000 The counter-terrorism operation in 1998-99 was run out of the FBI's Phoenix office in cooperation with Israeli intelligence and was approved by Attorney General Janet Reno.

01:07:07.000 Several thousand dollars in US money was sent to suspected terror supporters during the operation as the FBI tried to track the flow of cash through terror organizations.

01:07:18.000 The FBI said in a rare acknowledgement of an undercover sting that never resulted in prosecution.

01:07:23.000 That's interesting too.

01:07:25.000 Quote, this was done in conjunction with permission from the Attorney General for an ongoing operation and Israeli authorities were aware of it.

01:07:33.000 Now, one of the FBI's key operatives, who has had a falling out with the Bureau, provided an account of the operation at a Friends Closed Immigration Court proceeding.

01:07:43.000 Arizona businessman Harry Allen testified he permitted the FBI to bug his home, his car, and his office, and he allowed his Muslim Foundation's activities in the Gaza Strip to be monitored by agents and arranged a peace meeting between major Palestinian activists and gained personal access to Yasser Arafat during more than four years of cooperation with the FBI.

01:08:05.000 Now, Ellen's FBI handler in the late 1990s was Kenneth Williams, an agent who later became famous for writing a pre-September the 11th memo to FBI headquarters, warning that there were Arab pilots training at U.S.

01:08:17.000 flight schools.

01:08:18.000 The warning went unheeded.

01:08:21.000 Well now, Ellen, a Muslim convert, testified that he was taking a trip to the Gaza Strip to bring doctors to the region in the summer of 1998, when Williams asked him to provide money to a Hamas figure.

01:08:32.000 You know, one thing as a sidebar to this, I interviewed a guy named John Loftus, who is an attorney, and he's worked in the intelligence agencies for many, many years.

01:08:43.000 One of the things that he said, and again this kind of goes back to what we're talking about, about, you know, what did the government know about the activities of these terrorists before September the 11th?

01:08:52.000 He was talking about, you know, that there's such things as intelligence blocks, where the agency like the FBI have These intelligence blocks and agents out in the street who might be doing their job, going out and digging up intelligence on these groups and things like that, may be legitimately trying to pursue these groups and find out what they're up to, but when they get the reports written and they submit their reports for any kind of prosecution or warrants or that type of thing, the upper echelons of the agency tell them, uh-uh, no, you back off of this thing or you back off of that thing.

01:09:26.000 And, you know, in a lot of ways, again, you know, who makes these kinds of decisions?

01:09:31.000 You know, who decides whether or not something should be pursued or not, and at what point is it justified that they are allowed to ignore something as paramount as that?

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01:09:58.000 going on with this our article here about the uh... f_b_i_ it ellen testified that the operation that he was involved

01:10:06.000 in uh... ended abruptly in nineteen ninety nine when he and

01:10:09.000 williams had a series of disagreements over the operation

01:10:12.000 and disputes that began when ellen angered the f_b_i_ by having an affair 0.99

01:10:16.000 with a chinese woman suspected of espionage Now, Clinton's National Security Advisor, Sandy Berger, said in an interview that the White House wasn't informed of the FBI activities, quote, we were not aware of any such operation, and that was according to Sandy Berger.

01:10:30.000 I wonder why they weren't aware of it.

01:10:33.000 Uh, FBI officials said that they tried to get Ellen to end the relationship and his work was terminated for failing to follow the rules.

01:10:40.000 Now, what goes on here is interesting, is that Melvin McDonald, who is the former U.S.

01:10:44.000 Attorney in Phoenix, who has championed Ellen's cause, said that the FBI's abrupt end of the investigation squandered an important intelligence opportunity.

01:10:52.000 Of course it did.

01:10:54.000 He, quote, he says, uh, Harry had been a tremendous resource to the Bureau.

01:10:57.000 We did not have that many people like him with connections like that to the Middle East.

01:11:01.000 Now, former State Intelligence Committee Chairman Dennis DeConcini, another Ellen supporter, said Ellen's work could have greatly assisted the FBI, but instead, you know, they've been busy turning their back to it to allow, to basically allow it to happen.

01:11:16.000 Anyway, check out InfoWars.com.

01:11:18.000 It's www.InfoWars.com.

01:11:21.000 Also, Congressional reports out now that says the terrorists could buy special equipment from the Pentagon.

01:11:27.000 Again, you know, another one of these Interesting stories that ABC News has provided that the GAO found that the Department of Defense has not attempted to determine who is buying some of these exotic weapons, biological weapons.

01:11:41.000 Let's see here.

01:11:44.000 According to a draft report, which came out by the General Accounting Office, which was obtained by ABC News, according to this report, which is due to be released today and discussed in a hearing of the House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Congress ordered the GAO, its investigative arm, to set up a phony company to see how easy it would be to buy surplus lab equipment from the Pentagon.

01:12:06.000 Now, using fake names, GAO investigators went to a website that sells Pentagon surplus and ordered items that were needed to produce bacteriological weapons, including evaporators, centrifuges, bacteriological incubators, and protective clothing.

01:12:25.000 So anybody can really walk in and buy it.

01:12:28.000 In its report, the GAO found that the Department of Defense has not attempted to determine who is buying excess biological equipment and how these items were being used.

01:12:37.000 Now, ladies and gentlemen, this is an example of how inefficient and how incapable the government is of protecting you from terrorists.

01:12:48.000 You know, I'm amazed.

01:12:50.000 That they actually could get you to believe that they can provide you safety and security from terrorism and from terrorist activities.

01:12:58.000 They cannot do it.

01:12:59.000 One thing, too, to keep in mind is over in Israel.

01:13:03.000 And this kind of harkens back to the idea that they're taking our liberties and they're couching it in the war on terrorism.

01:13:09.000 But you look at Israel, which is a virtual police state.

01:13:12.000 Sure.

01:13:13.000 You know, they may not have had a plane hijacked in a long, long time, but nevertheless, they're still having bombs going off in Israel, killing lots and lots of people, and there's nothing that they can do to stop it.

01:13:26.000 The same thing applies here.

01:13:27.000 I mean, this ABC News report illustrates that there is no way that the government is able to protect you from terrorism, from anything like that.

01:13:37.000 You have a responsibility to your families, You have a responsibility to your communities to be responsible and take care of the things that you take care of.

01:13:48.000 Defending your family, defending your property, and taking care of your own.

01:13:53.000 And that should not be left to the government to do, because the government cannot do it.

01:13:56.000 It's not an efficient system, nor is it possible to do.

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01:14:07.000 As I mentioned, coming up a little bit later on in the bottom of the hour today, Alex Jones is going to be joining us from Los Angeles to give us a special report.

01:14:15.000 On his observation of what's going on out there in California, where Governor Gray Davis is in the recall effort to recall Governor Gray Davis.

01:14:25.000 There's two things that we were talking about yesterday, and that is, we're going to talk with Greg Powell today about his discovery of Arnold's Enron secret.

01:14:34.000 But more importantly, the election is coming up.

01:14:37.000 You know, it's my belief from just observing what's going on out there, it's my belief that one of the things that they're trying to do is they're going to get Schwarzenegger in a position to assure that California, and we know they've got Florida sewed up because of the fiasco that took place back in 2000, they want to assure that they have California and Florida, which are two very, very important states, uh... to uh... to bush

01:15:00.000 uh... for getting reelected and uh... you one of the things that may be occurring out

01:15:04.000 here is is they're getting uh... their their ducks in a row if you will

01:15:08.000 in advance uh... of the election which is going to take place

01:15:12.000 uh... you know next year but uh...

01:15:14.000 the interesting thing about this whole thing is uh... what palaces discovered

01:15:17.000 about uh... this nine billion dollar uh...

01:15:22.000 the asker with and ron and how important it might be

01:15:26.000 that uh... are will be elected because apparently are old attended

01:15:31.000 A meeting on May 17, 2001 at the Peninsula Hotel in Los Angeles, where he and Enron Chieftain Kenneth Way met with convicted stock swindler Mike Milken, and Alex mentioned Milken yesterday.

01:15:46.000 Well, the deal is that there's been a suit filed by California, the state of California, by none other than Cruz Bustamante, demanding that the $9 billion in profits that were taken out by the oil companies during that fiasco back in the late 90s and in the early 2000s, demanding that that $9 billion be refunded to the state of California.

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01:21:02.000 We've got some callers.

01:21:04.000 And I'm Michael Corbin, sitting in for Alex Jones, who is going to join us at the bottom of the hour to give us an update, a special report from Los Angeles, California.

01:21:12.000 And we're looking forward to that.

01:21:13.000 Let's go ahead and go to the phones.

01:21:15.000 Paul's calling in from New Jersey.

01:21:16.000 Good morning or good afternoon, Paul, depending on where you are.

01:21:19.000 New Jersey, you're on the afternoon.

01:21:20.000 Good afternoon.

01:21:24.000 I have to make a disagreement with you.

01:21:26.000 When you say that there's nothing the government can do about it, sure there is.

01:21:32.000 I haven't talked to you, I haven't talked to Alex before.

01:21:35.000 But I have to make a disagreement with you.

01:21:38.000 Okay.

01:21:39.000 And when you say that there's nothing that the government can do about it, sure there

01:21:42.000 is.

01:21:43.000 They're stuck doing it.

01:21:44.000 They're the ones that are doing it.

01:21:45.000 And not only that, they can close up the borders, stop interfering with other people, and so 0.74

01:21:52.000 There's a lot of things they could do.

01:21:54.000 You're darn right.

01:21:54.000 Go ahead, Charlie, go ahead.

01:21:56.000 But we've got to stop old New World Order government, and that's what they're going to do, interfering with other people.

01:22:03.000 I mean, they say Saddam Hussein is a dictator.

01:22:05.000 Well, he's mild compared to what we've got.

01:22:08.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:22:10.000 So, I mean, there's a lot they can do about it.

01:22:16.000 Well, I should say, the government stopped doing what they were supposed to do and they're doing what they're not supposed to do now.

01:22:23.000 way but saying you know uh... we got a threat of a terrorism yeah

01:22:27.000 from our own government that's where the threat is well i should say

01:22:30.000 the government stopped doing what they were supposed to do and they're doing

01:22:33.000 what they're not supposed to do now yeah well they're the ones behind it all

01:22:39.000 yeah that's right, they're definitely, common sense talk they might

01:22:43.000 they're not closing the borders up right no they're not, everybody's blowing over

01:22:47.000 and they're not concerned about their family being terrorized are they?

01:22:51.000 no but you know the thing is, doesn't that tell you that they're the ones that are doing it

01:22:55.000 of course, they're not concerned They're not concerned about us anymore.

01:22:59.000 They want to deconstruct our society.

01:23:01.000 They're not even concerned about themselves being terrorized because they're the ones that are doing it.

01:23:06.000 That's right.

01:23:07.000 That's why they're not closing up the borders.

01:23:08.000 Common sense tells you that.

01:23:11.000 Sure, and the thing is that there's a couple of things that are going on here when they do this.

01:23:16.000 Number one, they're not maintaining the integrity of American culture.

01:23:21.000 They're not facilitating or not providing the reason for coming to America in the first place.

01:23:28.000 Because, face it, we're a melting pot.

01:23:30.000 We were a melting pot.

01:23:32.000 But you came to America because America was America. 0.61

01:23:35.000 And it was free from the tyranny and oppression that they were experiencing in their countries.

01:23:40.000 And the problem is that now we're letting all these folks in.

01:23:44.000 Number one, we don't know who's here.

01:23:46.000 The terrorists are here, and we don't know what they're doing.

01:23:49.000 The second thing of it is that they don't adhere to American values and cultures.

01:23:54.000 So there's nothing organized or anything about it.

01:23:57.000 It's a complete desecration of our culture.

01:24:01.000 Well, you know, bin Laden and al-Qaeda is George Bush's Bush crime family, buddy.

01:24:07.000 That's right, that's right.

01:24:08.000 And they set it all up.

01:24:10.000 They're going to keep doing it.

01:24:13.000 Yeah, they're going to keep doing it until they're done.

01:24:15.000 The only way we're going to change this country, I'll tell you, the only way we're going to change it is people in this country are going to demand people ballot.

01:24:22.000 Well, that's one way, but I mentioned yesterday one of the things that's going to, the only way I see that this is going to be reversed is for every person in the United States and around the world to get back to what is right and get back to, you know, the basics and think right, because Until that happens, until we get over our greediness and our material, you know, we cannot be totally materialistic and hope to succeed as a culture or as a people.

01:24:48.000 It just will not happen.

01:24:50.000 You're not going to get anybody in there to do the right thing unless you get paper ballots.

01:24:54.000 Well, you've got to get people in there that understand that they're there at the behest of the people, not at the behest of the corporations or the ruling elite.

01:25:06.000 That's the problem.

01:25:07.000 The paper ballots will help get the right people in there, but you've got to vote for the right people to start with.

01:25:12.000 You've got to educate the people.

01:25:15.000 Jeff Buchanan won up in New Hampshire because they had paper ballots.

01:25:21.000 What's happened to him?

01:25:22.000 Well, he's a losing case now.

01:25:26.000 I don't know what he's up to.

01:25:28.000 Something's happened to him.

01:25:29.000 I mean, I've seen him kind of change over the years.

01:25:31.000 He's kind of gotten soft.

01:25:32.000 He's changed, yeah.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, he's gotten soft.

01:25:35.000 Yeah, but the thing is, you know, everybody criticized Kennedy.

01:25:42.000 Kennedy was the only one that was trying to do the right thing. 0.79

01:25:46.000 He was going to try to change this whole I know he was mixed up with, you know, his old man was the one behind all that garbage anyway.

01:25:56.000 If you don't get paper ballots in, you know what happened in South Carolina here?

01:26:02.000 I don't know if you heard Attorney General Charlie Condon.

01:26:06.000 Charlie, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but we've got to move on.

01:26:07.000 We've got to take a break, okay?

01:26:09.000 Thanks for calling.

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01:27:27.000 Now, let's go ahead and go back to the phones.

01:27:30.000 We talked to Charlie in South Carolina.

01:27:31.000 Let's go to Warren in Colorado.

01:27:33.000 Good afternoon, Warren.

01:27:33.000 You're on the air.

01:27:34.000 Yeah, nice to hear you.

01:27:36.000 I'm 1360 out of Johnstown.

01:27:42.000 We get a better signal out here in Northeast Colorado.

01:27:45.000 Oh, okay.

01:27:46.000 I'm just down the street from you, actually.

01:27:48.000 I'm in Denver.

01:27:49.000 Oh, cool!

01:27:50.000 Alright, what was your website again?

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01:28:00.000 Okay, I've got it.

01:28:03.000 You've been all over the... You've touched on a lot of things today.

01:28:08.000 Yeah.

01:28:09.000 I'll tell you what, that Arnold Schwarzenegger thing, it's incredible how far this country has gone.

01:28:18.000 We used to just discount a person like that.

01:28:24.000 I can't wait for Alex to come on and give us an update.

01:28:27.000 He's with us now.

01:28:28.000 We're going to go to him as soon as I'm done on the call with you.

01:28:33.000 Keep up the good work, and we'll talk to you later.

01:28:35.000 Alright, thanks for calling.

01:28:36.000 Okay, and as promised, Alex Jones is on with us from Los Angeles, California.

01:28:41.000 Good morning, Alex. How you doing?

01:28:43.000 Great, Michael. Just to give you an update, I mean, obviously everybody knows as much about this race as we do

01:28:50.000 from watching the news, at least on the surface.

01:28:52.000 But it's obvious that they're focusing on the sexual allegations, just like they did with Bill Clinton.

01:28:57.000 Sure.

01:28:58.000 Instead of focusing on the real meat and potato issues.

01:29:00.000 Now I'm not saying it's okay what Arnold's done when you've got over 20 women saying this where their smokers fire as he admits.

01:29:06.000 and the obviously the guys out of control animal i mean this is more than

01:29:09.000 just groping uh... from his allegations that he hasn't uh...

01:29:13.000 uh... denied it in fact they now have a new term for him uh... the

01:29:18.000 apology later i believe that the uh...

01:29:21.000 i think it's a new term but just like the monica lewinsky 1.00

01:29:26.000 these are serious issues but they pale in significance compared

01:29:30.000 to the sellout of missile secrets to china right in the clinton death list the rest of it

01:29:35.000 Well, the same thing with Arnold.

01:29:36.000 For every 100 mentions in the local press or the national press of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Uh, and, uh, what he's done with women.

01:29:45.000 There might be one mention of, oh, the Hitler allegation.

01:29:47.000 Well, the guy said in two separate magazine interviews that he wanted to be a dictator.

01:29:53.000 He said in a book proposal that he wanted to be a dictator and worshipped at Nuremberg like Hitler, and then he admired Hitler.

01:30:00.000 This is on the record.

01:30:02.000 Then you add to that his dad being the Gestapo officer and police chief, hanging out with Kurt Voltheim, the high-level Nazi, former head of the UN campaigning for him in 1986, when confronted by reporters saying, I don't care about the Nazi stuff with Kurt, I love him.

01:30:19.000 Then you add to that all the other things he's doing, open borders, anti-gun.

01:30:24.000 That's a whole other story of how the so-called neocons are falling after themselves, worshipping Arnold.

01:30:31.000 But to have them in the news focusing on, oh, these allegations with the sex with the women, it's much more serious to have the comments where he wants to be a dictator, he wants to be worshipped by crowds at Nuremberg, he admires Hitler. 0.62

01:30:46.000 So really that's, I'm sure that now from watching it and from being here on the ground, that that's the diversion, that's the distraction, because he couldn't survive having to say, oh well, I don't know why I said I loved Hitler. 0.99

01:30:59.000 Uh, but he can't survive all the sexual garbage. 0.96

01:31:02.000 And they're saying on the news, they've got Democrats up there going, well, Bill Clinton did this, and so what if Arnold did it? 0.99

01:31:07.000 We've got to just accept it.

01:31:09.000 So also, morally, they're lowering the bar a whole other level.

01:31:12.000 And I would predict today that Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to be elected.

01:31:17.000 of the big reasons is a lot of the state has the Diebold touchscreen voting system, and

01:31:23.000 Diebold was caught in the 2002 election manipulating votes right here in California.

01:31:29.000 And Diebold and others are doing everything they can to keep this story under wraps, but

01:31:32.000 at prisonplanet.com and infowars.com we have a touchscreen electronic voting fraud section

01:31:38.000 that really proves that all of this is going on.

01:31:40.000 But I would predict, and it's not a hard prediction to make, that on the one way or another we'll

01:31:45.000 end up the apologidator, or however you want to say it, will be the next governor here

01:31:52.000 in the fifth largest economy in the world.

01:31:55.000 Then you've got Orrin Hatch, who admitted to the Associated Press that there's a Republican and a Democrat version of a bill to start the repeal of the 22nd Amendment to the U.S.

01:32:04.000 Constitution so that Arnold can run for President.

01:32:09.000 So they've got big plans for Arnold Schwarzenegger, and now they've lowered the bar even further You can pose in the gay pornomags, you can be anti-family, anti-gun, pro-open border, you can say you want to be a dictator, you admire Adolf Hitler, you want to be worshipped like Adolf Hitler was worshipped in Nuremberg, with the mass totally shutting off the thinking process is what Arnold basically said. 0.55

01:32:32.000 You can say all of this.

01:32:33.000 You can be involved in all this.

01:32:35.000 You can smoke pot on video. 0.74

01:32:37.000 You can be a steroid addict. 1.00

01:32:40.000 You can have one of the dirtiest mouths out there. 1.00

01:32:44.000 And the neocons will love you. 0.98

01:32:45.000 But if you're a real conservative, a real patriot, a real Christian, you'll be called a devil worshipper by the Pat Robertsons of the world who say that forced abortion and fantasy is a good thing in China.

01:32:55.000 So they're really scrambling the terms now, today, and there's a conditioning process going on where they go, well, the bar's been lowered, this is just no big deal, you know, all these women coming out and saying this.

01:33:07.000 You know, Alex, granted, and the observation is very accurate, the sexual scandal, you know, from a political standpoint, with everything that's come before Arnold, is a very manageable scandal that doesn't really detract necessarily from the candidate.

01:33:25.000 What do you see at a deeper level?

01:33:28.000 What do you see is the real appeal of Arnold for the governor of California?

01:33:34.000 Well, it's fluff.

01:33:36.000 It's hype.

01:33:37.000 I mean, the World Bank and IMF have said in their own documents that whenever they come in and blow out an economy and consolidate it, which is where they get their power from, they print the money.

01:33:50.000 Everything's about getting us overextended, getting control of us.

01:33:54.000 That they will just put in different puppet leaders to take the blame.

01:33:58.000 A few years ago, in the last year, in Argentina, they had, what, six different leaders in about a six-month period, every month bringing a new one in, blaming him, as they took the bank accounts, as the economy fell apart, as the World Bank took control of the water supplies, the natural resources.

01:34:17.000 the roads, the telephones, basically the whole thing went into receivership of the IMF and World Bank

01:34:22.000 and so they come in and the IMF and World Bank take control of the government

01:34:26.000 they call it the IMF riot Then when there's no food, people go even more crazy.

01:34:31.000 Then they have to call the army out to quote, restore order.

01:34:34.000 This is all by design.

01:34:35.000 They want things to race all the way to the bottom, like they've done in Iraq and many other countries, like they've done in Serbia, like they're doing in Argentina.

01:34:42.000 Just with the economics, not with the military.

01:34:45.000 And then after they've been able to do that, they can then come in and totally rebuild the entire economy with 100% ownership of the New World Order.

01:34:53.000 So, it's the same thing with Arnold or Bustamante.

01:34:57.000 Or any of these people, you put in the establishment candidate with the left flavor or the right wing flavor, but the actual actions are identical, just the rhetoric might be slightly different.

01:35:10.000 And so Arnold is perfect for this Hollywood surface culture because he is a total and complete puppy.

01:35:19.000 He looks like a robot when he's out there walking around with little kids, you know, children for Arnold.

01:35:25.000 Liberal women for Arnold. 0.99

01:35:27.000 Mothers for Arnold.

01:35:28.000 I mean, the whole thing is staged with a pack of goons around him, protecting him like the game show host was protected in The Running Man.

01:35:36.000 So Arnold is the epitome.

01:35:39.000 He is the future man if the New World Order continues to succeed.

01:35:43.000 We're going to have these puppets in every region of the country.

01:35:46.000 They're nothing more than just little titular heads for the centralized federal government.

01:35:50.000 So Arnold isn't a solution.

01:35:54.000 He's just a bunch of hype.

01:35:56.000 We'll just give them bread and circus. 1.00

01:35:57.000 We'll just give them a bunch of hype instead of real substance.

01:36:02.000 Instead of somebody like a McClintock, who by the way is not perfect, but at least is pro-gun and wants to control the border.

01:36:09.000 I mean, this is a great example for the globalists and the media of how they can sell socialism and big government and Nazism and perverted garbage at every level and still make it palatable and sell it to the people.

01:36:23.000 So this is also a test for the population of will they buy this type of bondage.

01:36:29.000 I think the answer is, at least out here in California, The propagandas work quite nicely on them.

01:36:35.000 Yeah.

01:36:35.000 You know, on Infowars.com, you have an article on there about the Nazis in W's closet.

01:36:41.000 This is kind of an example, too, of the kinds of people that he surrounds himself with, and these guys are about their own unified agenda to take over things.

01:36:53.000 Greg Palast is coming up in the next hour to talk about his discovery of the Enron secret, Arnold's Enron secret, which may Have something to do with why it was so important to get Arnold in as governor because of this nine billion dollar profit.

01:37:07.000 Nine or ten billion dollar profit that was taken by the oil companies.

01:37:10.000 One of George Bush's favorite games to play. 0.88

01:37:14.000 Yeah, it's incredibly disgusting.

01:37:16.000 I have to watch when the news go, bring me the broom!

01:37:19.000 Bring me the broom! 0.99

01:37:20.000 We're going to sweep Davis out!

01:37:22.000 No more special interest!

01:37:24.000 No more money in Sacramento!

01:37:27.000 What you've been doing is wrong!

01:37:29.000 And the people are sick and tired of it!

01:37:32.000 We're going to deal with it!

01:37:34.000 I've got plenty of money!

01:37:36.000 I don't need no more money!

01:37:37.000 Yeah, like, power people don't want more power. 0.73

01:37:39.000 And then we know from months ago, and again it's in the article I wrote back on On September 3rd, actually, I wrote the article the week before that.

01:37:46.000 It took me a while to write it.

01:37:47.000 And I mean, I had mainstream news articles then about Arnold in some smoky room in Beverly Hills Hotel hanging out with the Enron chief and Michael Milken, the junk bond dealer, the felon, and they're all in there.

01:38:01.000 I mean, Arnold's involved in all this.

01:38:03.000 Arnold is a really serious, quote, businessman in all these backroom deals.

01:38:07.000 He's connected to all these different people.

01:38:09.000 So you're going to see a further milking and raiding of the state if they tell people, there's no more money, we're in debt.

01:38:15.000 You're going to have to, you know, we're going to raise all these taxes.

01:38:17.000 We're going to have a car tax.

01:38:18.000 We're going to have 14 other taxes.

01:38:20.000 And then they suck the conservatives in to go, OK, how are we going to pay for it?

01:38:23.000 When in trinity, look at the comprehensive annual financial reports, the double set of books that states, counties, and cities have, these guys have plenty of money.

01:38:30.000 So again, it's just about a process of Buffalo and California with a spectacle, a smokescreen, and they're accepting all this.

01:38:36.000 And there's Arnold going, we're going to stop this corruption.

01:38:39.000 It's absolutely horrible.

01:38:42.000 I want to do something about it.

01:38:44.000 It's just terrible.

01:38:45.000 And he's more intimately involved with Enron and with Bush and his cronies that did it than Governor Davis, who, by the way, was involved in the scam with him as well, according to the Sacramento Bee.

01:38:56.000 A couple years ago, I saw the articles where he would buy Power for the state at $137 a megawatt and sell it back to the power providers for a dollar.

01:39:04.000 So I mean, you know, Davis is dirty too, but I mean, just to have one of the chief demons up there going, we're going to deal with this, this is absolutely terrible.

01:39:14.000 You're good to me, you're going to have real, honorable, good work from everybody.

01:39:19.000 Bring me the broom! 0.99

01:39:20.000 Bring me the broom! 0.99

01:39:21.000 We're going to sweep Davis out of here!

01:39:24.000 And it's total bread and circus work.

01:39:26.000 I mean, it's like going to a hockey game or something where we all have stacks of t-shirts throwing out the bread, you know, in the circus and some heavy metal band going, we're not gonna take it.

01:39:37.000 No, we ain't gonna take it.

01:39:40.000 We're not going to take it anymore.

01:39:44.000 It's just total, again, people want the sugar-coated cyanide pill, and they're going to get it.

01:39:49.000 They're going to get it, right.

01:39:50.000 And they're going to wonder why we don't have jobs and why all these new taxes are going up.

01:39:53.000 California is the model for the rest of the country, and this is a beta test for bigger things for Arnold Labor.

01:39:59.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:40:00.000 That's right.

01:40:00.000 You know, I'm going to cast a movie called Take California.

01:40:03.000 I'm going to cast you as the lead actor in it, okay?

01:40:05.000 Bring me the broom! 0.99

01:40:06.000 Bring me the broom! 0.99

01:40:09.000 Let me just tell you something, Michael.

01:40:12.000 It's so honored to be on your broadcast.

01:40:14.000 We are going to end corruption in California.

01:40:16.000 I can't wait.

01:40:17.000 Let me tell you, don't worry about me.

01:40:19.000 I'm working with Enron to keep the regulation going, to keep the scam going into the tens of billions.

01:40:26.000 That's right.

01:40:31.000 Listen, listen.

01:40:34.000 I apologize for that too.

01:40:35.000 I'm the apologinator.

01:40:38.000 That's right.

01:40:41.000 You want to take some calls?

01:40:44.000 Sure, just one or two, because I've got to go out here and cover this story, and I've also got some meetings over here as we fight the New World Order, ladies and gentlemen.

01:40:51.000 Okay, let's do that.

01:40:51.000 We've only got a couple minutes in this segment anyway.

01:40:54.000 Let's take a call from Bill in Arkansas.

01:40:55.000 Good afternoon, Bill.

01:40:56.000 You're on with Alex Jones.

01:40:58.000 Bring me the boom! 0.97

01:40:59.000 Oh, man, well, I'm trying to keep rolling on the ground out here, but I'm talking like Arnold.

01:41:04.000 I swear to God, I just like him. 0.65

01:41:05.000 He does a darn good job at it. 0.70

01:41:09.000 I'm going to get all your property. 0.56

01:41:10.000 You're going to have car taxes, bans on guns, open borders, ha ha!

01:41:15.000 Well, I tell you what, Alex, he fit right in.

01:41:18.000 Help people like him out there.

01:41:19.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:41:21.000 I was calling, I might be a little bit off beat, but you're talking about open borders and the Patriot Act and what is it, Homeland Security?

01:41:29.000 Homeland Security.

01:41:31.000 Yeah, Homeland Security.

01:41:32.000 You know, big thing there.

01:41:34.000 Yeah.

01:41:34.000 Well, I work for the Department of Emergency Management.

01:41:38.000 I was part of the Sheriff's Association.

01:41:41.000 I worked for FEMA.

01:41:43.000 Man, this ain't nothing but a big bunch of bulls.

01:41:45.000 Ain't nothing there to grab people's freedom away from them and using it for a good excuse.

01:41:50.000 Well, you see, we've got to take your freedom to keep you safe.

01:41:54.000 I learned this in Austria.

01:41:55.000 We had another great Austrian leader who did what he had to for the people.

01:42:00.000 For the people of Nazi... I'm in California. 0.96

01:42:05.000 Well, you know, I sat around here You know, the country here a while back was on the Orange State Alert.

01:42:11.000 I got a call in from Little Rock.

01:42:13.000 We're on the Orange State Alert, you know, and everything.

01:42:16.000 Didn't get me excited.

01:42:17.000 I knew that was going to happen.

01:42:19.000 Well, it's all starting to go under federal control.

01:42:22.000 And, I mean, it even came out last year.

01:42:25.000 This was admitted by the White House.

01:42:26.000 They were, quote, scripting terror alerts for political gain, ordering the CIA and FBI to put out fake terror assessments to, quote, create hysteria.

01:42:34.000 That's the White House memo.

01:42:36.000 Create hysteria.

01:42:36.000 Now, Michael Corbin or Alex Jones are Well, I'm not a big fan of Bush, that's for sure.

01:42:47.000 You're not a fan of gun control on borders?

01:42:52.000 Well, you're a liberal, you know.

01:42:54.000 No, I'm not a fan of gun control at all.

01:42:57.000 Open borders, let's talk about open borders.

01:42:59.000 I live in the state of Arkansas where chicken plants are at.

01:43:03.000 I mean, you know, the little old town I live in is about 3,000.

01:43:07.000 I think about a thousand of them are illegal immigrants working in a chicken plant, you know?

01:43:11.000 Well, and you see the government lets these big corporations create these felonies,

01:43:15.000 and then the little companies go out of business because, number one, the INS will raid them if they've got two illegals 0.99

01:43:20.000 working there, and they just can't compete against this.

01:43:25.000 And so again, the IMF World Bank plan is to get rid of the middle class.

01:43:30.000 And that's what's happening here.

01:43:31.000 Disarm us, repossess our way of life, get us dependent, get us into the system, either our welfare or the criminal justice system, or into big pharma and the psychological Uh, you know, scams that are run by the psychiatrists and the psychologists, uh, get you somehow adjudicated to have some type of problem, financially, criminally, mentally, get you into their system.

01:43:55.000 So I would take a caller you don't like the new gun bill they've got in the Senate sponsored by Republicans and Democrats that'll, if you've ever had a misdemeanor, you won't be able to own a gun, it'll register all gun owners, you don't like that, you feel like that's conservative.

01:44:08.000 No, I don't like it.

01:44:09.000 I'll tell you what, Bush, a lot of people here in Arkansas voted for him because they thought he wasn't a gun grabber.

01:44:16.000 Well, he's going to grab guns just like everybody else.

01:44:19.000 Hey Bill, we've got to move on.

01:44:20.000 We're about out of time.

01:44:21.000 Thanks for the call.

01:44:22.000 Hey Alex, listen, are you going to give us an update tomorrow?

01:44:25.000 Absolutely.

01:44:26.000 I will give you an update tomorrow.

01:44:27.000 And Michael, you're doing a great job.

01:44:28.000 I appreciate you pulling in for the show.

01:44:30.000 And I hope that folks will visit InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:44:34.000 And I hope they'll get the new book by Paul Watson, Order Out of Chaos.

01:44:37.000 I hope they'll get Police State 3, Total Enslavement.

01:44:40.000 Okay, Alex.

01:44:41.000 Thanks a lot.

01:44:41.000 as well, they'll get the videos and get them out to everybody and expose the system, pull

01:44:47.000 the curtain back, and that's what we're doing here in California, working on getting the

01:44:53.000 films out in a bigger and better way to defeat the globalists.

01:44:55.000 Okay, Alex, thanks a lot.

01:44:56.000 We'll talk to you later.

01:44:57.000 Okay, that's it.

01:44:59.000 We'll be right back after this.

01:45:00.000 Stay tuned.

01:45:01.000 I'm Michael Corbin filling in for Alex Jones.

01:45:03.000 We'll be right back.

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01:48:57.000 Anyway, let's take a call before we get to the Great Palace, of course, is going to be joining me at the beginning of the next hour, but let's take a call.

01:49:05.000 Brad is calling in from Illinois.

01:49:06.000 Good afternoon, Brad.

01:49:07.000 You're on the air.

01:49:07.000 Yeah, I thought you were going to say, fighting for truth, justice, and the American way there for a second.

01:49:12.000 Yeah, well, that's essentially what it is.

01:49:14.000 That's right.

01:49:15.000 I wanted a few callers back.

01:49:17.000 I think you were talking about this Homeland Security and Patriot Act and all the tightening down that's going on right now.

01:49:24.000 I wanted to let the listeners know that this tightening down stuff really started in the mid-80s, just since 9-11.

01:49:36.000 Everybody's got a focal point on it, but I remember in the mid-80s, like 85 or 86, all the federal courts And the big cities started putting in the metal detectors and the high security.

01:49:49.000 And then some of the bigger cities that could afford it started putting it in all their state and city buildings.

01:49:55.000 And this was in the 80s when things were, you know, back to the way they were normally.

01:50:00.000 And you had to wonder, I used to ask myself, well, who are they protecting themselves from?

01:50:04.000 There were no terrorists running around back then.

01:50:06.000 They were protecting themselves from us!

01:50:08.000 And you know, that's right.

01:50:09.000 And you know, Brad, the thing is, is that, and you bring up a really good point.

01:50:13.000 This all occurred in very subtle ways and it was always predicated upon one lone gun nut or somebody that did something that got them, they were able to whip the public into a frenzy to start accepting us.

01:50:26.000 I remember here in the Denver area.

01:50:28.000 There was a woman that was getting a divorce, filed for the divorce, her husband came into the courtroom, shot her dead, and immediately the media jumped on it, we've got to have this, we've got to have that, and as a result of that they've got all these protections and securities in place for this one incident.

01:50:45.000 But I'm like you, you know, I'm not a terrorist, you know, and who are these laws really construed against?

01:50:51.000 It's us.

01:50:52.000 Absolutely, and then the other thing I wanted to bring up is A caller back or so was talking about the paper ballot.

01:50:58.000 You know, we all know these voting things are a sham.

01:51:01.000 But you know, I have to kind of agree with Lysander Spooner, the writer back in the 1800s, where he basically said that a secret ballot doesn't do anything but create a secret government.

01:51:15.000 And I have to agree with him on that.

01:51:16.000 I mean, I've argued with people here locally when they have these sham referendums.

01:51:21.000 That's right.

01:51:21.000 to get money for the schools or whatever, basically it's nothing more than legalized

01:51:27.000 burglary or robbery.

01:51:29.000 And I've often said, "Hey, you people who are voting for this, stick your hands in my

01:51:33.000 pocket.

01:51:34.000 Your names ought to be out there in public to see who is actually stealing from who." 0.51

01:51:39.000 That's right.

01:51:40.000 Absolutely.

01:51:41.000 So that's basically all I wanted to say.

01:51:42.000 Yeah, I enjoy your show on Saturday.

01:51:45.000 I've never called in, but maybe some night I will.

01:51:47.000 Well, I appreciate it.

01:51:48.000 Okay, bye.

01:51:48.000 Well, keep listening, okay?

01:51:50.000 Again, thanks, Brad, in Illinois.

01:51:52.000 Okay, coming up, I mentioned we have Greg Fallis joining us at the top of the hour.

01:51:56.000 Greg is going to be talking about his investigation into Arnold Schwarzenegger and we're going to find out about his nine billion dollar dirty little secret with such luminaries as Kenneth Wei from Enron and Mike Milken, the convicted junk bond dealer.

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01:52:17.000 I'm Michael Corbin, sitting in for Alex Jones, who will return on Thursday.

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01:53:37.000 And again, I'm Michael Corbin, sitting in for the Away on Business, Alex Jones.

01:53:41.000 And as you've heard the last couple of days, he's been providing updates, special reports from Los Angeles, covering the Arnold Schwarzenegger Devacol, if you want to call it that, which it certainly is.

01:53:51.000 It's a circus, as Alex has described.

01:53:55.000 And the fix is in, and they are... they just continue, they just keep going at trying to raid, you know, the state and rid it of the corruption, only to replace it with a much more corrupt system.

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01:54:24.000 It's kind of interesting when Alex was talking about Schwarzenegger and his Austrian connections and his love of Hitler.

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01:54:35.000 When Adolf Hitler needed money, who did he call? 0.82

01:54:39.000 Well, he called George Bush's granddaddy and he was, you know, a lot of times people don't realize what's happened in the past and how much it affects what is happening now.

01:54:52.000 And again, you've got to stay informed because you begin to realize, you start connecting the dots and you start seeing where all this stuff goes.

01:54:59.000 I interviewed a gentleman on my program on A Closer Look, his name is Carlo Calvi, the son of the deceased Vatican banker Roberto Calvi.

01:55:08.000 And, you know, Calvi was big in the Vatican Bank scandal.

01:55:14.000 Of course, the Bushes and his relative families, they seem to have a propensity for scams.

01:55:22.000 Peter Bruton wrote an excellent book on George Bush Sr.

01:55:26.000 and the Iran-Contra scams and all that.

01:55:29.000 Those people raided billions and billions and billions of dollars from innocent people in the United States from savings and loans.

01:55:36.000 And, according to Calvi, the Bush family apparently does have some leanings toward Nazism and Fascism, because Calvi reported a meeting between Michele Sindona, who was a mafia guy in Italy, and a guy named Phil Guarino, here in the United States.

01:55:55.000 Now, Guarino, if you do some research on Guarino, He was a big campaign fundraiser for the Republican Party, going back to Ronald Reagan and George Bush, and mysteriously he kind of disappeared from the scene during the campaign of George W. Bush.

01:56:10.000 My estimation was it was kind of a form of damage control because they didn't want this question to come up.

01:56:16.000 But you know, there are the connections there, and it's undoubtedly I mean, it's as obvious as the noses on our faces that what they're doing is this police state activity with Tom Ridge and the Homeland Security Act and all of these things with Poindexter, with Total Information Awareness, etc., etc.

01:56:36.000 These guys are hell-bent On completely taking away all of our liberties and robbing us of our ability to think for ourselves, to protect our families and our property, and to enslave us in a total police state.

01:56:50.000 And what I just mentioned real quick too, Alex Jones' latest video, Police State 3, is a must-have video that you can get by calling 1-888 Uh, 253-3139-888, 253-3139, or InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:57:09.000 PreState 3 is, the subtitle is, Total Enslavement.

01:57:13.000 And he will demonstrate how this plan of theirs is well, well underway.

01:57:18.000 And we can't afford to be sleeping at the switch here right now, because things are really reaching a critical mass.

01:57:24.000 Uh, the next presidential election is coming up next year.

01:57:27.000 It's going to be interesting to see how this all pans out.

01:57:30.000 The hope is, as we've been talking on the program, the hope is that if we get informed and we know what's going on, we can use our vote and our voice to put a stop to this and end this totalitarian regime that's on the horizon.

01:57:44.000 One other thing too, Argentina, which Alex brought up, they're under a constitutional dictatorship.

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02:02:05.000 Just relax, sir.

02:02:06.000 It's not sir, it's ma'am!

02:02:08.000 Please hurry, it's hot in here!

02:02:10.000 According to Admiral Poindexter's database, Right.

02:02:12.000 have you at the Monsanto Mart on 2nd Street. Right. I have a live shot of you from the

02:02:17.000 Neo-Constar observation blimp in your hair reel. I'm an old lady. Alright sir, looks

02:02:22.000 like you have no outstanding warrants so you're not under vehicular detention. But it looks

02:02:26.000 like you have some outstanding parking tickets in two counties. We'll need you to slide your

02:02:32.000 national ID card for deduction before we can release you from the car. Slide it through

02:02:37.000 the Neo-Constar console now.

02:02:39.000 But I can't find it.

02:02:41.000 I'm looking everywhere.

02:02:42.000 I can't find my national ID card.

02:02:44.000 Sir, I'm going to send a Homeland Security helicopter there right now to check you out.

02:02:49.000 You have a 99.2% chance of being a terrorist.

02:02:52.000 Would you like the in-car lethal injection right now, or would you prefer to wait for the agents?

02:02:57.000 Okay.

02:02:59.000 I'll take the lethal injection, please.

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02:03:07.000 This is Michael Corbin from A Closer Look.

02:03:10.000 Does this scenario seem far-fetched or on the horizon?

02:03:13.000 Well, we may experience this level of government control if we don't stand up today and take back our God-given freedoms that have been taken in the name of the war on terrorism.

02:03:22.000 The number you have reached, 9-1-1, has been changed to a non-published number.

02:03:30.000 We are the Borg.

02:03:31.000 You will be assimilated. 0.88

02:03:33.000 Resistance is futile.

02:03:35.000 Yeah, right.

02:03:40.000 Yeah, right is right.

02:03:43.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:03:43.000 I'm Michael Corbin, sitting in for Alex Jones, who will return on Thursday.

02:03:49.000 Let's take a quick call, and then we're going to go to our guest, Greg Pallast.

02:03:53.000 We've got a caller from Michigan.

02:03:54.000 Good afternoon, you're on the air.

02:03:57.000 Yes.

02:03:59.000 Dave?

02:03:59.000 Yes, I have this problem with Gregory Pallast.

02:04:03.000 I think that You know, he's done a lot of very, very useful work.

02:04:07.000 He leaked the information about the W1999 document.

02:04:13.000 You know, he has done a lot of good things, but this is a person who has lionized Gray Davis.

02:04:20.000 Gray Davis has done more damage to California and this country than any governor could conceivably have done.

02:04:27.000 He's been all about eliminating the borders, basically creating one magnificent region

02:04:34.000 with Mexico, as he said, gun-grabbing, land-grabbing, and everything else.

02:04:39.000 He's recently passed a whole lot of really terrible legislation to curry favor with his

02:04:47.000 bosses so that he can stay in power.

02:04:49.000 My stomach really gets turned at the... I appreciate the focus on Arnold Schwarzenegger

02:04:58.000 and all of his problems, but I think we need to look at who these other people are, Bustamante

02:05:03.000 and Gray Davis.

02:05:05.000 They have to be gotten rid of.

02:05:09.000 Read about what a great man he is, fighting corruption.

02:05:12.000 I've read Greg Palast's articles to that effect.

02:05:15.000 So I think he should be challenged on those things.

02:05:18.000 Well, we'll talk to him about it.

02:05:19.000 You know, the thing is though, he is entitled to his opinion, and of course you are entitled to yours.

02:05:24.000 The idea is that everybody has their particular angle and viewpoint on things.

02:05:29.000 Well, his angle doesn't hold water.

02:05:30.000 He has done these things and he has...

02:05:33.000 dramatically assaulted the sovereignty of this country and the rights of the

02:05:37.000 people of california and he set a precedent that will be followed by for

02:05:40.000 the rest of us very short i don't know if i go that strong Why not?

02:05:44.000 Well, just listen to your language.

02:05:46.000 I mean, your language makes it sound like he's a devil or something.

02:05:49.000 I think that Gray Davis is.

02:05:49.000 He's not.

02:05:51.000 And I think that anyone that can support those things is totally against the principles of this country.

02:05:56.000 And I think that should be highlighted here.

02:05:58.000 Well, sure.

02:05:59.000 And of course, if Californians get Schwarzenegger, it's going to be worse than the previous.

02:06:05.000 I think it will be.

02:06:05.000 I don't think it will be different.

02:06:07.000 I think it will be the same.

02:06:09.000 Either way.

02:06:10.000 But I think that Gray Davis needs to be held accountable.

02:06:13.000 Your guest needs to be challenged on those things, and in support of Greg Davis.

02:06:17.000 Okay, well we'll ask him about that.

02:06:18.000 Alright, thank you.

02:06:19.000 Alright Dave, thanks for the call.

02:06:21.000 We're going to be getting Greg on here in just a moment.

02:06:25.000 Real quick, to update you on what he is going to be talking about, there is, apparently

02:06:31.000 he has been given documentation that discusses the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger was in

02:06:38.000 a meeting on May 17, 2001 at the Peninsula Hotel in Los Angeles, which you heard Alex

02:06:45.000 This meeting was attended By Enron Chieftain Kenneth Ley and convicted stock swindler Mike Milken.

02:06:53.000 Now, what is interesting about this is that Bustamante had planned, Davis, Grey Davis and Bustamante had planned to make Enron and other power pirates, then ravaging California, pay back the $9 billion in illicit profits that they carried off.

02:07:08.000 Now, here's the story, and we're going to talk about it with Greg, is the story that Arnold Schwarzenegger does not want you to hear, and that is that the biggest single threat to Ken Flay and the Electricity Lords is a private lawsuit that was filed last year under California's unique civil code provision, 17-200, which is the Unfair Business Practices Act.

02:07:28.000 This litigation heading to trial now in Los Angeles would make the power companies return the nine billion dollars that they filched from California electricity and gas customers.

02:07:40.000 Okay, so when we get Greg on, he's going to talk about this because this is a very paramount thing because if Schwarzenegger is elected, this whole thing could go away and those guys would get to keep the nine billion dollars that they stole out of the pockets of the Californians.

02:07:55.000 And we're going to take a call now.

02:07:57.000 We've got someone calling from Oklahoma.

02:07:58.000 What was the name again?

02:08:00.000 Ron?

02:08:00.000 Ron, we've got you on.

02:08:01.000 You're on the air.

02:08:05.000 I heard you talking a minute ago.

02:08:08.000 About Germany and suggesting that your listeners should read more history, I was going to suggest that they try to find a copy of William H. Shire's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, or possibly Shire's Rise and Fall of Adolf Hitler.

02:08:24.000 There are so many similarities to what happened in Nazi Germany and what's going on now.

02:08:33.000 The Reichstag fire, I'm here in Oklahoma City.

02:08:36.000 Shortly after the bombing, I was calling it the Reichstag bombing.

02:08:40.000 But Hitler's speech before the Reichstag after the fire in 1933, when he called for the Enabling Act, that was almost word for word George Bush's speech.

02:08:54.000 Makes you kind of wonder where they're getting their material for his speeches, right?

02:08:59.000 It was absolutely scary.

02:09:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:09:02.000 You know, I've always been fascinated by World War II and read a lot about it.

02:09:08.000 And when these things started happening, it just struck a chord immediately.

02:09:13.000 And everything, just lights came on.

02:09:17.000 You know, it's interesting because one of the things that also precipitated Hitler's power, coming to power in Germany, was the fact that he used the street thugs to terrorize the citizens. 0.59

02:09:31.000 The S.A.? ?

02:09:32.000 Yeah, and one of the things we're seeing now, you know, a few callers back mentioned the fact that there were certain things that were occurring in the 80s that were a lot more subtle, that were kind of paving the road to where we are today.

02:09:48.000 One of those things too that I observed was the proliferation of gang members.

02:09:53.000 And not only just proliferation of gang members, but the well-armored and well-funded gang groups out of California that eventually have populated a lot of the major cities in the United States.

02:10:08.000 And when you look at what's going on down on the street level, It makes you kind of wonder where they got their money, where they got their guns, and you know, the drug business.

02:10:18.000 Right, we even have it here in Oklahoma.

02:10:22.000 Yeah, and the cops act like, well we can't clean these guys up because there's too many of them.

02:10:27.000 But, you know, the problem is that if they really wanted to put a stop to it, they could.

02:10:31.000 But they don't, because they're being told to lay off.

02:10:33.000 Because those kinds of investigations would lead to some interesting places, as Gary Webb noted in a series of articles that he did for the San Jose Mercury News, when he discovered the CIA's involvement in funding some of these gangs with drugs and weapons.

02:10:50.000 My lady friend managed an apartment complex here in the city back in the 80s. 0.97

02:10:57.000 Yeah.

02:10:58.000 And there was a really bad, bad drug problem.

02:11:00.000 Really bad.

02:11:01.000 Couldn't get anybody to do anything.

02:11:03.000 Yeah.

02:11:04.000 Finally got one DEA guy interested.

02:11:09.000 And the city police wouldn't do anything.

02:11:11.000 And the only way I got the DEA interested was to tell them that there were white college kids from OU coming in on the weekend.

02:11:19.000 But otherwise, when it was just black, everybody looked the other way.

02:11:25.000 Yeah.

02:11:27.000 See, the thing is that we're going to have street violence erupting.

02:11:31.000 We're going to have violence erupting right on the streets.

02:11:33.000 And what's going to happen is you're going to have the guy come riding in on a white horse, and he will take care of the problem.

02:11:41.000 And then, of course, we will be beholden to him, and everybody will live happily ever after.

02:11:46.000 Right.

02:11:46.000 I was listening to your guest yesterday, and he was absolutely fascinating.

02:11:51.000 Which one, yesterday?

02:11:52.000 Yeah.

02:11:53.000 Paul David Collins?

02:11:54.000 Right, right.

02:11:55.000 Yeah, he's done a lot of research on this stuff, and you know, one of the things that, when we were talking about, you know, being informed and reading books and things like that, I highly encourage the audience also, if you can get a copy of Painted Black by Carl Rashke.

02:12:09.000 This book was written in 1990, so it's a little bit hard to get, but Painted Black kind of outlines the aesthetics of terror, what Rashke, who's a comparative religion professor at DU in Denver here, He outlines this thing about what he calls the Aesthetics of Terror, and it's kind of a history of terrorism.

02:12:27.000 And he kind of lays down the groundwork, too, to illustrate that not only is terrorism and Satanism walking hand in hand, but they are one and the same.

02:12:37.000 In other words, they are tools that are utilized by control freaks who want to gain control of large masses of people.

02:12:47.000 Thanks for the call.

02:12:48.000 We've got to move on.

02:12:49.000 Coming up, we've got Great Palace, so stay tuned.

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02:17:22.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:17:26.000 And again, filling in for Alex Jones, I'm Michael Corbin.

02:17:29.000 Alex will return on Thursday, and our number today is 1-800-259-9231.

02:17:32.000 Again, that number is 1-800-259-9231.

02:17:32.000 259-9231. Again, that number is 1-800-259-9231. Now we're moving on to my guest, who is, he's

02:17:42.000 been called "twisted" by Katherine Harris in Florida.

02:17:46.000 Uh, the White House says, we hate that, and I can't complete the, uh, the sentence, but you can imagine, we hate that.

02:17:53.000 Uh, S-O-B, I guess you could use that word. 1.00

02:17:55.000 But anyway, and also, as you've heard, uh, one of our callers, uh, takes exception with his stance on Gray Davis.

02:18:00.000 But, as they say, variety is the spice of life.

02:18:04.000 I say, controversy is the spice of life.

02:18:08.000 It's a pleasure to welcome to the program Gregg Pallast, author of The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.

02:18:13.000 Gregg, welcome to the program.

02:18:15.000 Hey, Michael, glad to be with you.

02:18:17.000 Good to interview you again.

02:18:19.000 Take your best shot!

02:18:22.000 Well, you know what?

02:18:23.000 We're going to focus today on this discovery that you've written about, about Arnold Schwarzenegger's dirty little Enron secret.

02:18:32.000 I mean, it's not so secretive.

02:18:34.000 Not anymore.

02:18:35.000 Yeah, well, right.

02:18:37.000 Uh, the, uh, the governator there, um, met secretly in a hotel room with Ken Lay, the, uh, the mastermind of Enron.

02:18:49.000 Yeah.

02:18:50.000 And, uh, Mike Milken, the convicted stock swindler, and a few other luminaries of the dark world.

02:18:59.000 Yeah.

02:19:00.000 And, uh, this is in the middle of what we call the California energy crisis, the middle of the California energy Swindle about Ken Lay and his power company cronies ripping off the state.

02:19:13.000 And the whole discussion was about undercutting the investigations by the state and federal government.

02:19:23.000 Now, back in May of 2001, they didn't know who they could put up against Gray Davis as governor.

02:19:30.000 Mainly, they were concerned about his lieutenant governor.

02:19:34.000 A guy named Cruz Bustamante is actually on the ballot now, probably the number one challenger to Schwarzenegger, it's just a recall win.

02:19:41.000 He had filed a lawsuit a month before the meeting, which was demanding $9 billion back from these power pirates, and stands a very good chance of succeeding, unless of course a governor of the state steps in and gets in the way, and that's kind of a The purpose of the meeting was to get rid of the short circuit lawsuit.

02:20:06.000 And they didn't have a crystal ball.

02:20:08.000 Some people said, I don't want people misreading what I've uncovered.

02:20:11.000 They're not saying, let's start a recall and put up Arnie.

02:20:14.000 What they did is, because that was the guy named Issa that started that, they said, we have to go up against Davis, undercut him.

02:20:22.000 Stop these investigations.

02:20:24.000 And they had not only Schwarzenegger, but they had Reardon, who was the mayor of Los Angeles, who they thought might be the candidate for governor.

02:20:34.000 So they didn't know which of these guys were going to step in, but they, you know, the idea is to have, hey, have all the politicians in their pocket.

02:20:41.000 You know, it's cheap.

02:20:43.000 You don't know which one's going to run or work out, right?

02:20:46.000 Yeah.

02:20:47.000 That's the same thing.

02:20:49.000 So it's a con.

02:20:52.000 It was part of the continuing, what's continuing on, it's part of the continuing story of the power pirates ripping off the public.

02:21:00.000 It's still happening in Texas, it's happening all over the place.

02:21:03.000 Yeah, right, well it is.

02:21:04.000 Now, you know, given the fact that these guys, including Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is probably par excellence in this department, given the fact that a lot of these guys give new meaning to skeletons in the closet, let's look inside of Bustamante's closet.

02:21:18.000 What's in there?

02:21:19.000 Well, yeah, you know, one thing, I don't want people to get charmed, get the idea that I've fallen in love with some politicians of any party.

02:21:29.000 Not for me, right.

02:21:31.000 That doesn't happen.

02:21:32.000 In fact, yesterday I was viciously, I mean, I was like, I gotta tell you, I was viciously attacked yesterday for saying unkind things about my senator, Hillary Rodham.

02:21:44.000 Hillary the Rod.

02:21:45.000 Yeah.

02:21:46.000 And you know, but what do you want me to do?

02:21:47.000 I'm an investigative reporter.

02:21:48.000 For those who don't know, I'm an investigative reporter for BBC television.

02:21:51.000 Yeah.

02:21:52.000 And for the Guardian Papers of Britain, which are probably the most influential in the world, and certainly my news program is maybe the most widely seen in the world.

02:22:01.000 But I'm pretty much locked out of the U.S.

02:22:04.000 media.

02:22:04.000 I kind of bounce off the electronic wall, except when, you know, Alex Jones gives me an opening.

02:22:10.000 And I just, you know, I tend to go after those in power.

02:22:14.000 That's what an investigative reporter does. 1.00

02:22:15.000 So when the Clintons were in power, I made them very unhappy, apparently, quite unhappy.

02:22:21.000 Well, you know, I've always measured my effectiveness and success by the things that are said nasty toward me, you know, like being called an SOB.

02:22:30.000 I tend to look at somebody and say, thank you, because I'm doing my job.

02:22:33.000 Yeah, you know, I mean, my other view is like, the interesting thing about Bustamante, where my problem comes in with him.

02:22:40.000 Hold that, Greg, because we'll take that when we come back from the break.

02:22:45.000 1-800-259-9231 is our number.

02:22:46.000 Greg Palast is my guest.

02:22:46.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:22:48.000 We're going to talk about Arnold's and Ron's secrets, coming back from the break.

02:22:53.000 Stay tuned.

02:22:53.000 There's more to come on the Alex Jones Show.

02:22:55.000 I'm Michael Corbin.

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02:23:39.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:23:45.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:23:51.000 And again, I'm Michael Corbin, sitting in for Alex Jones, who will return on Thursday, and he will be continuing the InfoWars fight.

02:23:59.000 Our number is 1-800-259-9231.

02:24:00.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:24:00.000 Joining me is Greg Pallast, and we're talking about his latest article.

02:24:01.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:24:06.000 Joining me is Greg Pallast, and we're talking about his latest article.

02:24:11.000 Was it released yesterday, Greg, on Arnold's little secret Enron secret?

02:24:15.000 That come out yesterday?

02:24:16.000 Yes, and actually over the weekend, it was Friday night that they came out.

02:24:22.000 I just got these documents, internal Enron memos.

02:24:25.000 It added to some material that was already out there.

02:24:27.000 I do want to give some credit to the San Francisco Chronicle, which first learned of the secret meeting, but they didn't seem to have any information on why they would be meeting, and that required understanding, getting a little more info.

02:24:39.000 One, the memo saying that they clearly wanted to undercut Davis.

02:24:44.000 The other is that the state suit, which was the real threat to these guys, because California has an unusual law called the Unfair Business Practices Act, in which if you're ripped off by a series of corporations, You can sue.

02:25:00.000 It's unique to that state.

02:25:04.000 And I've done similar litigation.

02:25:05.000 In fact, I won a case, a $4 billion case, against a company in Long Island under statutes in New York.

02:25:14.000 And, by the way, talking about both parties being on the... Well, see, there's really only one party, Michael.

02:25:20.000 It's called, what I call, Hesba Shaquel, which is the party of the cash. 0.99

02:25:27.000 And in New York, I had this little Democrat, so-called Democrat, named Mario Cuomo, the great liberal hero.

02:25:35.000 He stepped in on a case.

02:25:38.000 And save the power company from a $4 billion payment.

02:25:43.000 In one case, in one coast, it's the governator.

02:25:47.000 On the other coast, it's the Democrats.

02:25:49.000 I don't want to say it's one party or the other, because it isn't.

02:25:51.000 It just flows into one thing.

02:25:53.000 I mean, it's the whoredom of the cash party. 1.00

02:25:55.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:25:56.000 And that's one of the problems.

02:25:57.000 So I don't want people to think that this is some type of partisan investigation.

02:26:02.000 I mean, I should say I am, but it's a bipartisan investigation.

02:26:06.000 So we've got both the governator and then we also have the copy of New York Politico's Democrat, Cuomo, doing the same.

02:26:18.000 Actually, he actually did the game.

02:26:20.000 He actually saved a company.

02:26:21.000 He was in position.

02:26:22.000 These guys lost the racketeering case.

02:26:26.000 He actually stepped into a federal case to save a group of racketeers.

02:26:33.000 And he gave, right now, our dear liberal leader, in case people wonder whatever happened to Mario Cuomo?

02:26:40.000 Yeah.

02:26:41.000 You know, I mean, he's a Where Are They Now personality.

02:26:46.000 What he's doing now, he gave a no-bid, big fat no-bid legal contract to a law firm named Wilkie Farr Gallagher.

02:26:54.000 Today, he is at Wilkie Farr Gallagher.

02:26:57.000 So I just want you, the taxpayers in New York, to know that their money went to Good purpose, to make sure that Mario Cuomo continued to live in the style to which he'd become accustomed at your expense.

02:27:09.000 The lap of luxury, yes.

02:27:12.000 You know, I don't want anyone to think, well, oh, he's out to get Arnold because he's out to help the Democrats.

02:27:19.000 No, it doesn't matter.

02:27:23.000 It's the same game.

02:27:24.000 Sure it is.

02:27:26.000 On the other hand, I have to say, Bustamante did the right thing by bringing that lawsuit He seems to be a bit afraid of it, because he certainly doesn't like to shout about it, but I think that, you know, clearly it just brought down firepower on his head, corporate money boys that really went after him.

02:27:42.000 And don't forget, the energy crisis started under a guy named Bill Clinton.

02:27:48.000 The year 2000 was the Clinton presidency, and Clinton While Davis is drowning, Davis is getting absolutely pounded politically because of the power prices rising.

02:28:03.000 Clinton didn't act on that until December, until after the election.

02:28:12.000 I mean, he waited.

02:28:13.000 California's drowning, and he didn't take any action until December of that year.

02:28:17.000 He waited until the hemorrhage was well-established, and then he acted.

02:28:20.000 Oh, yeah.

02:28:20.000 I mean, he didn't care.

02:28:21.000 You know, look, and you have to look at another thing.

02:28:23.000 Uh-oh, they won't... I guess people won't like this one.

02:28:27.000 One of the reasons seems to be a great prejudice toward power companies in the Clinton administration, which may have to do with the fact that Hillary Rodham represented one of the big, giant power companies ripping off California.

02:28:40.000 Out of Little Rock, Arkansas, enter G International.

02:28:43.000 Isn't that interesting?

02:28:44.000 Isn't that interesting?

02:28:45.000 But, you know, I mean, I'm not saying that there's a direct connection.

02:28:48.000 I'm not saying that the Clintons are influenced by money.

02:28:52.000 It just looks that way.

02:28:54.000 You know, I don't know what to tell you.

02:28:56.000 You know, it's like, and you can see that, by the way, in the book, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, I don't want, that's very important that people understand that I have a chapter, by the way, a new chapter, which is in the edition out now, called California Riemann, Deregulation and the Power Pirates, the real story there, and it tells about Hillary and her connections, and it tells about Enron and the connections, of course, deep into the Bush family.

02:29:25.000 These guys have been plugged in, and I know they're kind of plugged in, but this has been going on for a long time.

02:29:35.000 Yeah, I mean, you have to understand, Enron was a kind of, you know, Bush creation to some extent.

02:29:40.000 The Bush family, they grew up together politically.

02:29:44.000 The corporation really was established in about 19... it was only established around 1986 out of Houston Natural Gas, and it was the creation of deregulation, which really started with Governor Bush out of Texas.

02:29:58.000 Now, deregulation first caught on in California under Pete Wilson.

02:30:03.000 Now, there's a Republican there, and so it mixes up under Pete Wilson.

02:30:08.000 But these are Texas power companies.

02:30:10.000 Enron, TXU, which is Texas Utilities, Reliant, which is the alias for Houston Industries, Southern Company, Entergy, Hillary's company.

02:30:24.000 We're basically dickering among themselves about how to divide up the market.

02:30:29.000 And I saw them just rip off one nation after another.

02:30:32.000 They came to America late, as you'll see in the book.

02:30:35.000 I mean, they were behind.

02:30:36.000 They gave some emphasis to the coup d'etat in Pakistan, which is how we end up with a berserker, maniac, Mosul fanatic military dictator in Pakistan. 0.74

02:30:46.000 Who is, by the way, now our ally. 0.72

02:30:48.000 I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea just because I said someone's a berserker with a weapon.

02:30:55.000 The guy has nuclear weapons.

02:30:56.000 We don't need to send in inspectors in Pakistan because the guy, the dictator there, exploded his bomb on national television.

02:31:07.000 So, you have to understand, these power pirates have been operating worldwide.

02:31:12.000 They didn't just show up in California one day.

02:31:16.000 They start out in Texas, but then they move to England, Brazil, Pakistan, leaving broken bones and bought-off politicians in their wake, and then they ended up in California. 0.89

02:31:26.000 In empty piggy banks.

02:31:27.000 That's right.

02:31:28.000 And so they picked up, you know...

02:31:29.000 To them, you know, Schwarzenegger was not, I wouldn't say, their creation.

02:31:32.000 They just jumped on, grabbed on, and funded the, you know, the Frankenstein.

02:31:38.000 I say, you know, in this whole equation, he's probably a bit player that, you know, he's a bit player and he's willing to roll over for cash.

02:31:47.000 His lines are all scripted.

02:31:48.000 He seems to believe this stuff, you know, but on the other hand, it's very clear when he's not scripted that he doesn't quite know what to do.

02:31:57.000 And, you know, people are voting They seem to be attracted to this guy because they see this larger-than-life guy on the screen.

02:32:03.000 Well, if you like fictional characters, then why don't you write in Spider-Man?

02:32:07.000 Or Mickey Mouse!

02:32:07.000 He's never been an intro.

02:32:08.000 He's never touched anyone behind except for his web, and then it's only the bad guy.

02:32:13.000 Now, let's talk about this.

02:32:16.000 After they've looted or robbed the consumers in California of $9 billion, how does Arnold fit into this equation in Bustamante, and what are the dynamics of this game?

02:32:25.000 It gets really complicated.

02:32:27.000 All our schemes tend to be kind of complicated.

02:32:29.000 They've got a problem in that Enron, because it imploded, all this garbage came out.

02:32:35.000 In fact, if you want it, you don't have to be a great investigative reporter to get some of this stuff.

02:32:39.000 The bankruptcy courts have required that internal Enron documents be posted on the web.

02:32:45.000 Really?

02:32:45.000 Out of Texas, that's right.

02:32:48.000 What you'll find is that all the games and schemes are laid bare.

02:32:55.000 They would falsely schedule power.

02:32:57.000 They had these colorful names for playing the market, like Get Shorty and Death Star, but basically they would You know, lie about what they were selling and not selling.

02:33:08.000 They would sell power that didn't exist.

02:33:10.000 There's all these ways to fake out the market.

02:33:13.000 When that didn't work, they would simply meet in hotel rooms and divide up the market and figure who pays what.

02:33:18.000 It wasn't just Enron, by the way.

02:33:19.000 Like, corporations like El Paso, which, you know, they would shut down gas going into power plants.

02:33:29.000 The power plants would shut down and they'd sell the big electricity from their other plant and make a killing in a single day.

02:33:37.000 You know that big blackout they had in California a couple of years ago?

02:33:39.000 Yeah.

02:33:39.000 Is that somehow related to this maybe?

02:33:41.000 Absolutely.

02:33:41.000 It was 100% related to it.

02:33:43.000 Because what they were doing is that they were playing games with the market.

02:33:45.000 For example, in one case, Enron Corporation sold 500 megawatts of power.

02:33:52.000 That's a huge amount of power.

02:33:54.000 Right.

02:33:56.000 Which they said, which they bid.

02:33:57.000 They had this goofy bidding system, which was like a fixed casino.

02:34:01.000 But they had this goofy bidding system.

02:34:03.000 Enron wins the bid to send 500 megawatts of power into California.

02:34:07.000 But it goes over a line that can only handle 1515 megawatts of power.

02:34:13.000 Now if you try to pour a gallon of gasoline into a thimble, it's going to go all over the place.

02:34:18.000 Right.

02:34:19.000 And it doesn't work.

02:34:20.000 So the power engineers in California said, oh my God!

02:34:24.000 If that stuff goes over the line, one, the lines will evaporate.

02:34:28.000 Literally, they'll vaporize if you do that.

02:34:30.000 Or at least they'll trip and everything will go dark.

02:34:33.000 So we can't get the power there.

02:34:35.000 So we better... We'll pay anything, absolutely anything, to get power in from other sources.

02:34:41.000 And prices went up 10,000% in an hour.

02:34:45.000 And, of course, Enron and their cronies were there to sell it to them.

02:34:49.000 That's the type of games that were played.

02:34:50.000 And when they played it one too many times, what happened was that We used to have an old system that was regulated, you know, people complained about regulation, but you know, basically you had a bunch of engineers that would say, we need so much electricity over here from those plants over there.

02:35:04.000 This time it's like these wacky bidding systems, and these guys knew that you couldn't get, you know, you can't run power in two directions at the same time, you can't, you know, and they would figure out the physical glitches in the system until finally, you know, a few times it just went kablooey.

02:35:21.000 Yeah.

02:35:23.000 Let me do this.

02:35:24.000 Our wires are burning up here.

02:35:25.000 Okay.

02:35:26.000 Julie from Ohio would like to get on here. 1.00

02:35:29.000 Good afternoon, Julie.

02:35:29.000 You're on with my guest, Greg Pallast.

02:35:31.000 Hi, Greg.

02:35:32.000 I'm in Rhode Island.

02:35:33.000 I've actually heard you on Jack Blood's show at WARL.

02:35:36.000 Oh, great.

02:35:37.000 You had a good interview there, and I haven't looked up your book yet, but I will.

02:35:41.000 Okay.

02:35:41.000 You sound like a fascinating person.

02:35:43.000 Please continue to tell us the truth and uncover all this stuff, because we peons like to know what's going on.

02:35:50.000 Well, you're not a peon.

02:35:52.000 You're still a voter until they computerize the voting systems.

02:35:55.000 Your votes still count.

02:35:56.000 That's coming soon.

02:35:58.000 I just want to make a quick announcement and I'll get off the line.

02:36:01.000 It has nothing to do with Greg or anything like that, but tonight in Rhode Island, in Providence at the City Hall, People are going to come out and repeal the Patriot Act in Providence.

02:36:13.000 Wonderful!

02:36:13.000 Well, then that means that there are real patriots in Providence.

02:36:18.000 Well, you know, we're trying to do what we can.

02:36:21.000 As I try to explain to people, I'm a mother of three, your baby doesn't come out running out of you.

02:36:28.000 You have to teach it how to walk and take baby steps.

02:36:31.000 So hopefully four states and 400 cities have done this, and hopefully the federal government will get the idea.

02:36:37.000 That's right.

02:36:38.000 And on newtowards.com, by the way, too, there's another city that's getting ready to do it.

02:36:42.000 So it's starting to catch on.

02:36:44.000 I think people are starting to see.

02:36:45.000 They're peeling back the veil, and they're seeing that there's a monster back there.

02:36:49.000 Yeah, well, in fact, actually, one thing you'll find out in my book, because I have, as Alex has noted, In fact, today Michael Morris' film comes out about the connection between the Bush and the Bin Laden family, which is triggered by my research for BBC television.

02:37:04.000 And I just, in fact, won an award for that this week from something called Project Censored.

02:37:09.000 The California State University's journalism school gives out awards for the most important stories not reported in the United States about the connection between the Bushes and the Bin Laden.

02:37:19.000 But here's a good connection for you.

02:37:21.000 The firm that did that computer fix Of knocking off thousands of legal voters in Florida and handing the race to the Bushes in Florida in 2000.

02:37:31.000 They are now the number one contractor for homeland security.

02:37:37.000 They are keeping billions of records.

02:37:39.000 I know they've admitted to me 16 billion records that they're keeping on American homeland security.

02:37:46.000 Is that Choice Point?

02:37:47.000 Choice Point out of Atlanta and these guys are ...are raking it in.

02:37:52.000 And by the way, remember, there was all those headlines last month which seemed to have just kind of drifted away about this guy Grasso at the New York Stock Exchange, given a salary of $160 million.

02:38:04.000 But no one asked why.

02:38:05.000 They just said it was obscene.

02:38:07.000 But what was the point of the obscenity?

02:38:09.000 The obscenity was proposed by a board member of the exchange named Ken Langone.

02:38:16.000 Langone was the guy who was being charged With security fraud.

02:38:22.000 And giving money to his crony Grasso was a way of protecting himself.

02:38:26.000 Who is Langone?

02:38:27.000 That, his company, is Choice Point.

02:38:30.000 His company is the company that's the big winner.

02:38:33.000 And the term, big winner in the War on Terror, I got from Forbes Magazine.

02:38:39.000 They say, who's the big winner in the War on Terror?

02:38:41.000 Choice Point.

02:38:42.000 And these are the guys that fixed the election.

02:38:45.000 These are the guys that are fixing the New York Stock Exchange.

02:38:48.000 These are the guys that have records on Americans.

02:38:52.000 You know, and that's one question I have for you.

02:38:54.000 When did we become the suspects?

02:38:56.000 We had 19 hijackers, not one American citizen.

02:39:00.000 Why are American citizens on the suspect list?

02:39:03.000 We're all suffering for it, too.

02:39:04.000 Let's move on.

02:39:05.000 We've got a caller, Jeff, calling in from Texas.

02:39:07.000 Good afternoon, Jeff.

02:39:08.000 You're on with my guest.

02:39:10.000 Hey guys, you guys are doing a great job today.

02:39:11.000 I appreciate it.

02:39:12.000 Thanks, Jeff.

02:39:13.000 Listen, I'm calling from Austin, Texas, and I know Alex, and I have a cable television show just like he does.

02:39:22.000 And I know you're going to be in for the Green Festival this weekend.

02:39:24.000 I know you're speaking on Sunday.

02:39:26.000 I'll be in Saturday night through Monday morning in Austin.

02:39:30.000 Oh, well, that's what I was going to ask you.

02:39:31.000 Our show is live on Monday night, so maybe you could call... You better call my office and not hang up poor Michael here with that request, okay?

02:39:41.000 Always contact Greg.

02:39:43.000 Anyone can, by the way, go to gregpalace.com and see these nasty BBC television programs that are just too difficult to show on American TV or read this material.

02:39:53.000 Obviously, you can read the book, but it does have a contact, Greg.

02:39:58.000 So, if you have some comments or complaints, please do that.

02:40:02.000 I will do that today.

02:40:04.000 Also, I wanted to ask you just real quick, it's kind of off-subject, but how did you get a hold of that document, W1999I, and I'll hang up and listen now.

02:40:09.000 Okay, people are wondering what that is.

02:40:10.000 document that w_ one nine nine nine i and i'll all hang up a look at that

02:40:14.000 okay i think that the or what if people are wondering what that is uh...

02:40:17.000 document uh... of one ninety nine i uh... that the designation for national security

02:40:24.000 The secret FBI document, which I've published at least a hunk of it in my book, I want to get all of it up on my website, but it is a document which indicates that there was a prior request to investigate two members of the Bin Laden family in the U.S.

02:40:43.000 and FBI agents were not released to do so until September 13, 2001.

02:40:51.000 And that document was dropped on BBC television researchers by disgruntled agents.

02:41:00.000 Well, I can't really say that's exactly what happened.

02:41:02.000 Here's exactly what happened. 0.93

02:41:03.000 Agents came in to talk to our team and they said, asked some dumb questions about, I don't know, what the heck.

02:41:11.000 Greg, can I interrupt you? 0.95

02:41:13.000 We've got to take a break.

02:41:14.000 Okay.

02:41:14.000 I'm going to work you over for the last part, okay?

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02:44:50.000 We're on the homestretch here of the Alex Jones Show for today.

02:44:57.000 Greg Palast is my guest.

02:44:59.000 Greg, I want to ask you real quick, if I could, what happens here if Arnold is elected governor in Florida with this $9 billion problem?

02:45:06.000 Well, I think he'll be elected in California this time, Florida next time.

02:45:10.000 He's in Florida.

02:45:12.000 If Arnold is elected governor, what happens is that he's assented to this idea of undercutting the investigation.

02:45:21.000 The state has demanded $9 billion from the Bush administration.

02:45:27.000 That is, that the Bush administration order the power pirates to return the $9 billion that they stole.

02:45:33.000 The federal government realizing that, in fact, that's their job, what's called the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.

02:45:41.000 It's job is to be the police.

02:45:45.000 They've got the evidence on these guys, but rather than simply demand that they return the money, the feds have said under Bush's guidance, and by the way, the head of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, a guy named Woods, was personally proposed to Bush by Ken Lay.

02:46:03.000 He's saying that the power companies can get off the hook by settling the case by paying like one to two cents on the dollar.

02:46:11.000 That's it!

02:46:12.000 Now if that happened, if that happened, the only thing that could stop it is if the governor of California jumps in and says he will not put up with it and joins with the lieutenant governor in court.

02:46:28.000 Saying this will not stand and let the court case go ahead if otherwise what happens is the judge in California in the civil litigation I know it's complicated, but that's how these things work.

02:46:40.000 The civil litigation won't have much choice but to say, the federal government has stepped in, the elected governor of the state has no complaint, case dismissed.

02:46:50.000 I think that's the way it's heading, and that's the danger.

02:46:53.000 I've tried to reach Arnold to say whether he's really going to go along with this scheme, and the only thing that happened is that some woman confronted him with my article and said, are you in bed with Ken Lay?

02:47:08.000 And his response was, well, literally, I'm not making this up, he did this in Bakersfield Saturday.

02:47:15.000 Well, I wasn't in bed with you! 1.00

02:47:19.000 Obviously!

02:47:20.000 So, you know, that's the answer so far.

02:47:27.000 But, you know, we'll see what happens.

02:47:30.000 I don't think there's much chance of getting back the $9 billion then, as a practical matter.

02:47:36.000 The Ken Lays guys in there at the federal level, with Bush's approval, they'll have the governorship of California.

02:47:44.000 And Bustamante also, don't forget, Bustamante is a politician like anyone else.

02:47:49.000 He sees which way the wind blows, and he might just scamper away and say, well, it's not worth fighting anyway.

02:47:54.000 He just keeps on going, and it will keep on going until people start putting their foot down and saying, no more.

02:48:00.000 No more, exactly.

02:48:01.000 And like I say, you have to say no more, not just the Republicans, it's not just the Schwarzeneggers, it's the Cuomos of this planet, too. 0.60

02:48:10.000 And when the public, like this woman calling from Rhode Island, steps in and says, well, you know, you may think of us as peons, but in fact, we ultimately have the vote.

02:48:18.000 We're not going to put up with it, and we're going to stand by people who stand by us.

02:48:24.000 And like I say, that's the key thing.

02:48:27.000 Because unfortunately, both parties have been money poisoned on this one.

02:48:31.000 Absolutely.

02:48:32.000 Greg, we're out of time.

02:48:34.000 Okay, well great, Michael.

02:48:35.000 I'm really glad to be with you.

02:48:37.000 Well, same here.

02:48:37.000 And thank you very much for coming on the program and informing us about this whole debacle in California.

02:48:42.000 It's interesting.

02:48:43.000 Well, we'll be in touch.

02:48:45.000 Again, that was Greg Pallast.

02:48:46.000 His website is www.gregpallast.com.

02:48:50.000 And that's it for us today.

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02:48:56.000 And I've got an interesting lineup for you tomorrow as well.

02:48:58.000 We're going to kind of look more closely at the aesthetics of terror.

02:49:02.000 Jimmy Rothstein, James Rothstein, is going to join me on the program to talk about some of the stuff that he did as a retired New York City police detective.

02:49:10.000 And working on the Son of Sam case, among other things.

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