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00:00:31.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

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00:00:34.000 It's already Tuesday, the 11th day of November 2003.

00:00:37.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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00:00:43.000 Welcome ladies and gentlemen, welcome.

00:00:50.000 It's already Tuesday, the 11th day of November 2003.

00:00:54.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host will be live for the next three hours.

00:00:58.000 We have Tito Howard, who was on board the USS Liberty back in 1968 when the ship came

00:01:06.000 under attack and we're going to be talking about the film he made several years ago,

00:01:11.000 loss of liberty.

00:01:13.000 In the past we've had former Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Moore and others on.

00:01:17.000 I'm going to be getting Captain Boston on the show later this week.

00:01:20.000 We're going to do several hours on this because it's now come out in the mainstream news People at the highest levels of the Pentagon face-to-face when LBJ and McNamara covered up the fact that the Israelis intentionally attacked the USS Liberty.

00:01:39.000 And I've talked over the years to dozens of the survivors on air, and they agree that the U.S.

00:01:46.000 government was in control of that ship, ordering the Israelis to attack it, to sink it, to blame it on Egypt.

00:01:53.000 This has now come out, mainstream news, so we'll be going over that in the second hour of the show.

00:02:01.000 So stay with us and tell your friends and family to tune in.

00:02:05.000 I got a call this morning from a friend and he was saying, Alex, I need specifics on this partial birth abortion ban not being really a ban of the procedure.

00:02:17.000 And so I looked around for a few minutes, found a couple of the news articles.

00:02:21.000 We're going to post them, if they're not already posted, on InfoWars.com.

00:02:25.000 And I guess it's really open for debate.

00:02:28.000 And so I'm not the medical expert on partial birth abortion, so I'm going to have the national right-to-life groups on the show.

00:02:36.000 I'm going to have the people on, the groups on, that are saying this isn't a real ban of partial birth abortion.

00:02:44.000 A lot of people want to say that Bush is this big Christian conservative.

00:02:48.000 Well, I know what's not debatable.

00:02:50.000 The guy signed on to UNESCO, the UN which pushes abortion. 0.56

00:02:55.000 He increased funding to UNESCO.

00:02:58.000 I know that Bush is a member of Skull and Bones, the Bohemian Grove.

00:03:01.000 I know he clapped to summon the demon at the Shinto Shrine in Tokyo.

00:03:06.000 I know that he has Muslim prayer meetings.

00:03:10.000 I know that the guy is deeply into the occult.

00:03:16.000 And still people deny that and say, well, it's debatable.

00:03:21.000 Maybe he's just having fun at Skull and Bones.

00:03:24.000 Maybe he's just having fun at the Bohemian Grove.

00:03:27.000 There's a lot of denial out there about the type of individual that George W. Bush is, but this is debatable.

00:03:35.000 Whether it's a ban on partial birth abortions.

00:03:38.000 So I'm gonna, as I said, I'd set up guests on the USS Liberty.

00:03:41.000 Give me a few days, I'll set up the National Right to Life Organization Foundation.

00:03:46.000 I'll get on the show.

00:03:48.000 In fact, I've already emailed him this morning.

00:03:49.000 David Brownlow of News With Views, who I've seen write great articles in the past, who says that the partial birth abortion ban is a fraud.

00:04:00.000 And I'll get on a couple of the other conservative writers that have said the same thing, and then we'll let you listen and decide.

00:04:05.000 Because, I mean, again, it depends on what the word is, is means.

00:04:10.000 You know, it's more of this doublespeak.

00:04:12.000 And Bush had to do something, because the Republicans have the legislature, the executive, the judicial.

00:04:19.000 I mean, we see this Republican-controlled Supreme Court saying that sodomy is A-OK.

00:04:26.000 Maybe you're in denial about that, too.

00:04:29.000 I don't know.

00:04:30.000 Those points aren't debatable, though.

00:04:32.000 This is debatable about the partial birth abortion ban, because it's all done in lawyer-speak, and it's up to the discretion, really, of the doctors, and now they've got the courts piling in on the debate.

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00:08:03.000 It is Tuesday, the 11th day of November 2003.

00:08:05.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:08:06.000 do it today from his central texas command center deep behind enemy

00:08:14.000 lines the information war continues

00:08:17.000 it's alex jones and the gcn radio network it is tuesday the eleventh day of november two thousand and

00:08:27.000 three i'm your host alex jones thanks for joining us today

00:08:31.000 we have tito howard who's been at the head of the liberty committee the group that has admiral more and

00:08:38.000 several other admirals dozens of captains

00:08:41.000 uh... many of the uh... victims who were on board the u s s liberty

00:08:47.000 And it happened June 8, 1967.

00:08:47.000 I said June 8, 1968.

00:08:48.000 And it happened June 8th, 1967. I said June 8th, 1968. I'm bad on dates, but here's the article right in front of me.

00:08:59.000 And it has now come out that Captain Ward Boston, the senior legal counsel for the Navy's Court of Inquiry into

00:09:05.000 the attack on the Liberty, his statement was read by Rear Admiral Merlin Starling, a

00:09:11.000 former judge advocate general of the Navy, following her portions of what was read.

00:09:16.000 And we covered this yesterday about how LBJ ordered them This is now on the record, as we told you years ago, but here it is on the record, to lie, even though they knew that it was a deliberate attack by the Israelis on that spy ship, that they were ordered to lie about it.

00:09:33.000 And also on Veterans Day, Bush is cutting benefits.

00:09:38.000 They announced that yesterday.

00:09:40.000 Two veterans, veterans of the Gulf War, they're quote, taking their disability checks to quote, pay for the new war in Iraq.

00:09:49.000 A mother of seven is being ordered back to Iraq despite the fact that she may lose custody of her children.

00:09:59.000 It looks like the depleted uranium levels are even higher than we first were hearing about in the mainstream media.

00:10:05.000 They're higher than 1,900 times.

00:10:08.000 So we'll talk about supporting the veterans here on the show as well.

00:10:12.000 And I can think of no better way to honor the veterans than to tell the truth of what happened to some of the folks, including the Congressional Medal of Honor winner, the captain of the USS Liberty back in 1967.

00:10:23.000 And this is now on the record, no debating it.

00:10:28.000 I've been criticized for having the crew of the USS Liberty on, for having Admiral Thomas Moore on, I've been criticized for having Tito Howard on, why the History Channel says the attack on the Liberty was an accident, how dare I say this?

00:10:44.000 You know, I can't help it if I have the actual victims, the actual heroes on the show.

00:10:48.000 I can't help it if the Jewish newspapers admit it and the Israeli pilots admitted it and didn't want to attack the ship.

00:10:54.000 I can't help it if LBJ had the fighter aircraft turned back.

00:10:57.000 I can't help it if it fits in with the Northwoods plan.

00:11:00.000 I can't help the facts.

00:11:03.000 I can't.

00:11:03.000 You know, I do my best here, Monday through Friday, from 11 to 2 and back from 9 to midnight, to tell the truth.

00:11:10.000 You know, I got up here Just a few days after the Jessica Lynch story came out and serious questions began to surface, and I said, looks like a fraud.

00:11:19.000 Then we found out Jerry Bruckheimer, the big Hollywood producer and director, was involved in scripting it.

00:11:24.000 That was admitted by the BBC.

00:11:27.000 Now a bunch of people involved with the case have turned up dead.

00:11:33.000 People who have been blowing the whistle on the fact that the Jesse Lynch story wasn't true.

00:11:37.000 Oh, by the way, the woman that filed the rape charge, the 38-year-old woman that filed the rape charge against George W. Bush, the Houston Chronicle did report that she died of a gunshot wound to the head a couple weeks ago.

00:11:51.000 We just learned of this.

00:11:53.000 I have the Houston Chronicle article here in the stack today, and that's being posted on InfoWars.com as well.

00:12:01.000 I stayed away from that case.

00:12:03.000 I've mentioned it two or three times.

00:12:04.000 I said, I don't know if it's true.

00:12:06.000 Any wacko could claim this.

00:12:09.000 You know, this type of stuff happens.

00:12:11.000 We don't know.

00:12:11.000 She could be telling the truth.

00:12:14.000 But now she's dead.

00:12:17.000 Wow.

00:12:17.000 Kind of like the guy that wrote Fortunate Son about Bush and cocaine use.

00:12:23.000 Ending up dead in an Arkansas bathtub, Arkansas hotel bathtub.

00:12:27.000 We also have a few weeks to go and the transcript of this from CNN is on InfoWars.com, being posted right alongside the Houston Chronicle obituary.

00:12:37.000 Barbara Bush, the matriarch of the family, has gone public saying, if you criticize my family, my children, my husband, you're dead!

00:12:54.000 So what do you think about that?

00:12:56.000 Just a lot of death swirling around.

00:13:00.000 Now I remember about two days after the Patriot Act passed, even before Ron Paul had made statements on the subject, I went and got the bill.

00:13:07.000 I read almost the entire bill.

00:13:09.000 I spent hours and hours and hours Over two nights reading it, I wrote an analysis that's still posted on the site of Patriot Act 1, where I said it has secret warrantless searches, it will be used against the general public, it will violate your rights at every level.

00:13:29.000 Well, I got a lot of criticism for that one, too, and they said, no, it's only to stop the Muslims, it's only to stop the terrorists, it's only to stop the foreigners.

00:13:37.000 And I said, Section 802 says it's for any action that endangers human life that's a violation of any federal or state law.

00:13:44.000 And now the Las Vegas Review-Journal, the Associated Press, the Washington Times, ABC News, they've all been reporting it's being used for marijuana, family violence, Check writing, hot check writing, sending emails, spams.

00:14:01.000 It's being used across the board.

00:14:03.000 And the Las Vegas Review-Journal, with one of the worst cases I've seen, is using it.

00:14:08.000 The Las Vegas Review-Journal is reporting on the feds using it to go after a topless bar owner they think paid off a county commissioner for favorable zoning changes.

00:14:22.000 I'm no fan of the topless bars or that type of lifestyle, but my point here is that it has nothing to do with terrorism.

00:14:30.000 And here it is for you.

00:14:32.000 Now, I throw all that out there because I've gotten a few emails and a few phone calls by good folks asking, Alex, where's the articles, where's the proof that this isn't a ban on partial birth abortion that took place a couple weeks ago and that Bush signed into law?

00:14:51.000 Where's the proof?

00:14:52.000 And so, what I'm going to do is, I'm going to have David Brownlow of News With Views On, and I've read his articles over the last few years and found them to be very accurate, very insightful.

00:15:04.000 And I saw a couple other articles by some pro-life groups saying, well, this isn't strong enough, but it's a start.

00:15:10.000 And Mr. Brownlow says the partial birth abortion ban is a fraud, is a scam.

00:15:14.000 So I'm going to get Mr. Brownlow up, and I'm going to get some of the big pro-life groups that we've supported and had on the show On and we'll have a discussion about this and I guess I'll try to make up my mind and I guess you can try to make up your mind.

00:15:29.000 I will reserve judgment and say that I'm not totally sure that there was a ban on partial birth abortion or that there wasn't a ban on partial birth abortion because questions have been raised and I don't have definitive answers.

00:15:46.000 I've read the bill.

00:15:48.000 I need to print the bill again.

00:15:49.000 I need to read it again.

00:15:51.000 It's going to take hours, and it's going to take a while to set up these guests, but we will have a two-hour show.

00:15:58.000 We'll do two-thirds of a show.

00:15:59.000 We'll do two hours of a broadcast, and longer if need be.

00:16:03.000 We'll do several shows if need be.

00:16:06.000 On this subject, we'll take your calls from folks in the pro-life movement, like myself.

00:16:10.000 I've been in it for about eight years.

00:16:13.000 Not as long as a lot of people and we will we will come to a consensus here on this broadcast Let me right now though read the David Brownlow article of September 25th 2003 Okay, so this is from a couple weeks ago after 30 years.

00:16:33.000 There's the headline the partial birth abortion scam and After 30 years of empty promises by pro-life leaders in the U.S.

00:16:40.000 Congress, it came as no surprise that they would pass a completely meaningless ban on a barbaric and indefensible method of child killing known as the Parfle-Birch abortion.

00:16:50.000 Partial birth abortion.

00:16:52.000 Senate Bill S.

00:16:53.000 3 and House Bill H.R.

00:16:55.000 760 provide ironclad proof that it is impossible to spend decades voting for the lesser of two evils and end up with anything but evil.

00:17:04.000 It does look like the Senate and the House will work out the language in their respective bills and send it on for the President Bush to sign it.

00:17:13.000 Unfortunately, there appears to be no argument on the key wording of the actual ban.

00:17:18.000 Now again, I have read the bill from this point on.

00:17:21.000 I don't know if they changed it right before Bush signed it, right before it finally passed.

00:17:27.000 We'll find out.

00:17:28.000 Both of the bills allow a doctor to kill a child during the very process of birth until In the case of the head first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother.

00:17:41.000 Or in the case of a breech presentation, the child should be killed before any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside of the body of the mother.

00:17:50.000 Actual text of S3 and HR 760 in quotes.

00:17:54.000 This is not a ban.

00:17:56.000 Those are targeting coordinates. 0.99

00:17:57.000 Plain and simple, the abortionists may be cunning, but they are certainly not stupid. 0.91

00:18:01.000 This will not even slow them down. 0.89

00:18:04.000 A law that only protects a child in the last ten seconds of a nine-month pregnancy is a total fraud.

00:18:09.000 It is hard to imagine how anyone could even write a law that would provide fewer restrictions on the legal killing of a human being.

00:18:16.000 As such, it is highly unlikely that even one child will be saved.

00:18:22.000 Using the language of this ban.

00:18:24.000 In a somewhat stunning setback for the cause of the unborn, while the pro-life members of the U.S.

00:18:28.000 House managed to simply pass a meaningless piece of pro-life legislation, the pro-life members of the U.S.

00:18:33.000 Senate have taken betrayal to a whole new level.

00:18:36.000 Most in the pro-life community chose to ignore the poison that was slipped into Section 4 of the March 2003 Senate version of the ban as part of S.

00:18:47.000 348 Republicans and 16 Democrats voted to approve the sense of the Senate concerning Roe v. Wade, which says, findings the Senate finds that abortion has been a legal and constitutionally protected medical procedure throughout the United States since the Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S.

00:19:08.000 113, 1973.

00:19:08.000 And two, it goes, the 1973 Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade established constitutionally based limits on the power of states to restrict the right of a woman to choose to terminate a pregnancy.

00:19:21.000 B. Sense of the Senate in the sense of the Senate that the decision of the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S.

00:19:29.000 113, 1973 was appropriate and secures an important constitutional right.

00:19:33.000 And two of part B, such decision should not be overturned.

00:19:39.000 And it says every Republican senator who ever told us they were pro-life is simply amazing.

00:19:45.000 Now, look.

00:19:47.000 The point here is, while we're all celebrating how Christian and good Bush is, the point is, you still have, and you can't debate this, late term, third trimester, nine months, abortions going on, that needs to be banned, not just pulling the baby's head out and killing it.

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00:24:11.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:24:18.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:23.000 I've got a giant stack of really important news here, a bunch of phone calls.

00:24:29.000 So I want to hurry, but I want to spend a little bit more time here from this article that I was babbling through by

00:24:36.000 David Brownloeb from News With Views.

00:24:39.000 And again, it's up on InfoWars.com right now.

00:24:43.000 And I agree with these points he makes.

00:24:46.000 This bill needs to die for a number of reasons, and he goes on.

00:24:50.000 It is a complete fraud. 0.78

00:24:51.000 It won't save any lives.

00:24:52.000 The signatures of the pro-life Republicans who voted to reaffirm Roe v. Wade will permanently stay in the Congressional record.

00:24:58.000 He's talking about the sense of the Senate statement that a bunch of Republicans signed on to reaffirming Roe v. Wade.

00:25:04.000 Four, it will give political cover to the phony pro-lifers in Congress.

00:25:08.000 Hey, I'm pro-life.

00:25:08.000 I voted for the ban.

00:25:10.000 Five, it will give the Congress an excuse not to pass a real pro-life bill, such as Article 3 reversal of Roe v. Wade, Or the inclusion of the unborn in the Fifth Amendment definition of a person.

00:25:20.000 It will give comfort to pro-lifers that something is being done to save children, when in fact nothing is being done.

00:25:26.000 Millions will continue to die when the bill is passed.

00:25:30.000 And again, the bill was passed.

00:25:32.000 But I'm gonna have this guy on, and I'm gonna have some of the good pro-life groups on, and we'll... I mean, it obviously does something.

00:25:40.000 It means they can't, you know, suck the baby's brains out and crush its skull. 0.91

00:25:47.000 It limits much of the partial birth abortion procedure, but again, as this writer says, in the last few minutes of a nine-month process, to be able to kill a baby that can be adopted right there on the spot in the last trimester is totally insane and totally wicked.

00:26:09.000 And I'm hearing a lot of people celebrate how great Bush is and what a wonderful job he did and how, you know, we should just thank God for him.

00:26:17.000 Folks, I thank God for all the pro-lifers that have gone to jail, all the people that have protested and demonstrated and written letters and contributed money and supported radio stations that speak out against this abomination.

00:26:29.000 I mean, look at George Bush's wife out there promoting Roe v. Wade. 1.00

00:26:34.000 We need to understand that the battle has just begun on this subject.

00:26:39.000 But I'm going to get to the bottom of this, and if I'm wrong in saying that they haven't really banned partial birth abortion, if these other writers are wrong in saying that, then we're going to find out.

00:26:48.000 I mean, I occasionally am wrong about things.

00:26:51.000 I hope, I pray, That they've really banned partial birth abortion.

00:26:55.000 But from the other articles I've read on this subject, from what doctors have been saying, is the abortionists are just going to kill the baby up in the womb and take it out of the woman's body. 0.72

00:27:08.000 And so, yes, one of the more grisly forms of abortion may have been restricted if the socialists are defeated with what these wicked federal courts are doing. 0.90

00:27:19.000 But to To say, oh, we've had this great victory.

00:27:23.000 Look how good George Bush is.

00:27:25.000 The Republicans have the Supreme Court.

00:27:28.000 The Republicans have the governorships.

00:27:30.000 The Republicans have the legislatures.

00:27:33.000 They have the House and the Senate.

00:27:35.000 They have the executive.

00:27:36.000 We need to repeal Roe v. Wade.

00:27:39.000 And look, we're not a democracy.

00:27:40.000 We're a republic.

00:27:42.000 The numbers on abortion have shifted.

00:27:44.000 Now the majority of men and women, the vast majority, what is it, 68% of women and 72% going from memory of men are now against abortion, period.

00:27:55.000 So we have the majority, but it's just like illegal immigration.

00:27:58.000 80 plus percent of Americans are against open borders and all these illegal aliens, but you see the Republicans and the Democrats moving forward with it. 0.86

00:28:08.000 So again, you're welcome to call in on this subject.

00:28:12.000 I'm going to have to spend some time tonight going back over the bill and again I'm going to set up some guests on this subject and we're going to have a debate about it.

00:28:20.000 Now, I haven't made my mind up because reading this legalese is complex.

00:28:27.000 But I lean towards what David Brownlow of News With Views and what others have said that it's a scam.

00:28:34.000 But again, if I'm wrong, praise God!

00:28:36.000 That would be a wonderful thing.

00:28:39.000 But, uh, I don't disagree with his points about how this is a psychological sab that, oh, they can't kill the baby outside the womb now.

00:28:47.000 Isn't that great?

00:28:47.000 They can just kill the baby inside the womb.

00:28:50.000 Oh, George Bush is such a good Christian conservative. 0.94

00:28:54.000 Now, let me tell you about some of the news that's coming up, then we'll go to these calls.

00:28:56.000 Police to question Bishop over gay cure comment.

00:29:01.000 The Bishop, uh, Reverend Peter Orster, Bishop of Chester, will be questioned by the Constabulary after the force received a complaint about his comments in a local newspaper last week.

00:29:17.000 He said that we should reach out to homosexuals, try to wake them up, try to reform them, and they've already arrested BBC reporters and others for doing this.

00:29:25.000 Now they want to take him into custody for questioning, decide if he should be charged, and they're consulting with the Scotland Yard Diversity Unit.

00:29:33.000 Now folks, talk about mind control.

00:29:35.000 Talk about thought crimes.

00:29:37.000 This is it.

00:29:38.000 So we'll get into that and a bunch of what they're doing to the troops on Veterans Day and your calls all on the other side.

00:29:45.000 But for those that have read the bill, for those that have seen the debates, do you think this was a ban on partial birth abortion?

00:29:53.000 Is it a ban on late-term abortion?

00:29:55.000 We'll talk about it on the other side.

00:29:57.000 Stay with us.

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00:33:38.000 You know, folks, I just have a bad feeling overall, and I've learned to follow my discernment, not just the evidence in front of me, about this so-called partial birth abortion ban.

00:33:48.000 We're going to get to the bottom of this and find out what it actually does.

00:33:52.000 But from the reading of it, they can still kill the baby up in the birth canal, and they just can't pull its head out and suck its brains out and kill it if any part of it has come out of the womb.

00:34:08.000 Now, again, I just have news articles that quote the subsections.

00:34:11.000 I don't have the bill in front of me today, but I am going to re-read it and go over it and, as I said, have some guests on about this subject.

00:34:19.000 But overall, this worship of the Republican Party and this defense of George Bush and all these neocons saying, oh look, he signed this, he's good now, we knew it all along, he's a good Christian.

00:34:35.000 I know that's a fraud.

00:34:37.000 I know he says he's going to sign that assault weapons ban.

00:34:40.000 I know he's for blanket amnesty and open borders.

00:34:43.000 I know he signed on to UNESCO.

00:34:45.000 I know he's expanded the size of the federal government.

00:34:48.000 I know he signed the Patriot Act and wants to sign Patriot Act too.

00:34:52.000 And I know they're using that against the American people.

00:34:55.000 And I know they've got the Pentagon lying in our media and sending out fake letters that weren't signed by the soldiers about how much they love the war.

00:35:04.000 And I know they're not allowing bids for the reconstruction of Iraq.

00:35:08.000 I know that legions, you know, the fruits of the New World Order are all around us, whether it's Bill Clinton or George W. Bush.

00:35:16.000 And I'm not going to be sucked into all this partisanship.

00:35:18.000 You know, Al Gore comes out a few days ago and says, George Bush has got us marching towards 1984 in an Orwellian society.

00:35:27.000 And CNS News rightfully points out that, wait a minute, the Patriot Act is part of a 10-year plan that Al Gore publicly called for.

00:35:35.000 Why Bill Clinton tried to pass many of the subsections that are in Patriot Act 1 and 2.

00:35:43.000 And Al Gore, when he was a senator, was there supporting John Ashcroft on similar legislation.

00:35:51.000 So just see what happens as conservatives, good people, see Al Gore come out against something.

00:35:56.000 And so, oh, the Patriot Act must be good!

00:35:58.000 You know, I was listening, before I go to these calls and much other news, I was listening to talk radio this morning, a local talk show.

00:36:05.000 I listened to ten minutes.

00:36:07.000 I was driving to the office supply store to buy some more paper to print these articles.

00:36:13.000 And I listened about 10 minutes, and I heard an ad for 24 tonight about biological attack.

00:36:19.000 You know, the government has to take all your rights away.

00:36:21.000 Beaver Sutherland, we're gonna get hit by bio-weapons. 0.91

00:36:24.000 Next ad, OnStar keeps you safe, unlocks your car.

00:36:29.000 Or if you're stranded, they save you with satellite tracking.

00:36:32.000 Next ad, tonight on KI.

00:36:36.000 The children on drugs want to rob you.

00:36:39.000 What they're doing to fight juvenile crime.

00:36:43.000 You're not safe.

00:36:44.000 Only the police can save you.

00:36:46.000 Then they come back and the show is talking about how good the Patriot Act is.

00:36:52.000 It's wall-to-wall propaganda in the ads, in the TV shows, in the radio shows, in the newspapers, everywhere.

00:37:03.000 And we try to decipher all of this.

00:37:05.000 We try to find out what's really going on, what's really happening.

00:37:11.000 And that's the job of this show.

00:37:12.000 We're trying to get people to think for themselves.

00:37:18.000 Now again, coming up, police to question Bishop over gay juror comment.

00:37:22.000 You're not allowed to criticize homosexuals, even use the word homosexual, in England.

00:37:27.000 And we reposted the BBC article from last year where they arrested the big BBC host of the Rural Affairs Show, a man and his dog, where he walks around the countryside with his dog.

00:37:37.000 Kind of a rural affairs program, that's what it's called.

00:37:41.000 We had him on the show.

00:37:43.000 He just said rural communities have served the same rights as Muslims and homosexuals, and Scotland Yard Diversity Unit had him arrested for the word homosexual. 0.67

00:37:52.000 They said that's hateful!

00:37:54.000 Like, let me cover this Bishop article now, then I'll go to Brock, Wes, Dean and others.

00:37:59.000 Policed a questioned Bishop over gay cure comment.

00:38:02.000 Notice they say gay, can't say the word homosexual.

00:38:04.000 This is out of the London Independent.

00:38:08.000 A bishop who called on homosexuals to seek medical help to change their sexuality is to be interviewed by police.

00:38:16.000 The retired Reverend Peter Foster, Bishop of Chester, will be questioned by Cheshire Constabulary after the force received a complaint about his comments in a local newspaper last week.

00:38:28.000 The Anglican Bishop, who opposed both the A consecration of the openly gay, can't use the scientific word, homosexual.

00:38:36.000 That's illegal in England.

00:38:37.000 Gene Robinson, as Bishop of New Hampshire, in the U.S., and the proposed appointment of canon Geoffrey John, a cabinet, a celibate, homosexual, as Bishop of Reading, said he would encourage gay people to try reorientation. 0.55

00:38:55.000 He said, some people who are primarily homosexual can reintegrate themselves.

00:39:00.000 He added, I would not set myself up as a medical specialist on the subject.

00:39:04.000 That is in the area of psychiatric health.

00:39:07.000 He didn't even say it was wrong! 0.63

00:39:09.000 And it is true that most homosexuals can shift back into being a heterosexual. 1.00

00:39:13.000 Cheshire Police confirmed yesterday that they plan to speak to the Bishop.

00:39:18.000 Assistant Chief Constable Grim Gerhard ...said, we are aware of the article put in the Cheshire Chronicle, or Chester Chronicle, excuse me, and have received a complaint.

00:39:30.000 He continued, we will examine the issues raised in the complaint and will speak to the reporter and the Bishop of Chester before considering any further action.

00:39:40.000 A spokesman said the force would send a copy of the article to the Crown Prosecution Service to see if an offense had been committed.

00:39:48.000 Now again, they arrested the BBC guy, quote, took him into custody for questioning.

00:39:53.000 It looks like that's going to happen here.

00:39:55.000 The Bishop's comments to the Chester Chronicle came as the Church of England faces the prospect of a worldwide schism over the consecration of Bishop Robinson, which was bitterly opposed by the Anglicans in developing countries.

00:40:09.000 His comments also follow a study at Columbia University in New York, which suggests some homosexuals can become predominantly heterosexual through psychotherapy.

00:40:19.000 The study was based on interviews with 200 men and women who said their sexual preferences had been changed by therapy often provided by religious organizations.

00:40:31.000 So this guy doesn't even criticize it when the Bible says it's bad.

00:40:35.000 Doesn't even criticize it.

00:40:37.000 He says, well, maybe we can try to get folks to reintegrate into being heterosexuals. 0.53

00:40:42.000 And for that, oh, you've got to come in for questioning at the police department.

00:40:46.000 And the article goes on from there.

00:40:48.000 I don't have time to read any more.

00:40:49.000 It's on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.

00:40:55.000 And on InfoWars.com, we have posted the BBC article where they arrested the BBC reporter.

00:41:03.000 And the Scotland Yard is quoted in there as saying, he used the word homosexual.

00:41:08.000 That is unacceptable.

00:41:09.000 That is illegal.

00:41:11.000 They have the head of the Scotland Yard Diversity Union.

00:41:14.000 They're having hate crime raids on people that said something to someone in the street.

00:41:20.000 Meanwhile, there's record gun deaths, stabbing deaths, muggings, three and a half million cameras in the country, total police state, and the police are out focusing on what you said or what you did. 0.86

00:41:33.000 And it's not just criticizing homosexuals. 0.69

00:41:37.000 There have been ministers who've been fired, or arrested, or fined because they called the EU criminal, or they criticized the European Union.

00:41:44.000 And our Supreme Court, our dear Republican Court, along with their willing accomplices, the Democrats, have said on the record they're going to follow the rulings of the UN.

00:41:55.000 The only member on the record against it is Scalia.

00:42:00.000 That's the only person not making these statements about following the UN's orders.

00:42:06.000 All right, let's go to Brock in Canada.

00:42:08.000 Brock, you're on the air.

00:42:08.000 Go ahead.

00:42:09.000 Hello, Alex.

00:42:10.000 Welcome.

00:42:11.000 I wanted to sort of take us down an example of, you know, in this country we have a terrible justice system, you know, where people can, you know, mug and break and enter and get off scot-free.

00:42:30.000 And I'm just wondering, with this terrible lack of justice, is there a Judas Goat leading us somewhere? 0.52

00:42:37.000 Like, is there going to be New World Order laws that are going to come in where, you know, people are going to have to pay for certain crimes, or are they going to let the break and enter criminals off and just demonize others?

00:42:53.000 California and England are models.

00:42:56.000 So is Australia.

00:42:57.000 I read the article last Friday.

00:43:00.000 And it said it.

00:43:01.000 Out of the Sunday Morning Herald, an activist sent an email to the government, to the U.S.

00:43:07.000 Consulate, protesting the Iraq War, and it said he didn't threaten anybody, it's just illegal to demonstrate or to organize or to protest now in Australia.

00:43:17.000 Now folks, that's what they said.

00:43:20.000 That's the law.

00:43:21.000 Four years after taking the guns.

00:43:24.000 In England, you get taken into custody, you get questioned, you get arrested, you get indicted.

00:43:29.000 They've had, according to the BBC, articles about 200 homes raided in one night for hate comments.

00:43:37.000 So they arrest an average person for making a comment, or allegedly making a comment, a comment that isn't even inflammatory, a comment that's covered under free speech.

00:43:46.000 But then they go out and get prominent people as well to create the chilling effect.

00:43:51.000 So, sir, I have trouble getting books and videos into your country.

00:43:55.000 They won't even let conservative speakers come up there and speak in your country.

00:44:00.000 Canada is so controlled.

00:44:02.000 So we already have the New World Order laws. 0.75

00:44:04.000 Governor Mark Schweiker of Pennsylvania According to CNS News, the Associated Press, passed a law that if preachers read out of the Old Testament comments that are against homosexuals, they can be held liable criminally or civilly.

00:44:19.000 So this is happening everywhere.

00:44:21.000 A guy was arrested in Utah for calling someone the N-word.

00:44:25.000 I don't agree with calling someone the N-word, though the black man was assaulting his wife and called him racial terms towards white people.

00:44:33.000 But in front of the crowd, when the reporter was being choked by the black coach, the woman's husband ran over and called him a name back, and he was arrested, and she lost her job, according to the Boisean newspaper, according to WorldNetDaily. 0.74

00:44:49.000 Well, it seems that, you know, I see here, you know, violent young punks, and they over and over just get revolving door through the The courts and yet you can be arrested for calling someone a homosexual.

00:45:06.000 Do you see the laws still remaining lax where old people can be beaten up and home invaded?

00:45:15.000 Or do you think they'll come down on that, too, in a New World Order?

00:45:18.000 Well, you're in Canada, and we've read the articles where if you defend yourself in your home, they'll indict you, release the criminal.

00:45:24.000 Look at all the cases with the farmers, and even Harrison the beetle, and there was some woman who was being stabbed, and the husband stabbed the intruder.

00:45:34.000 He got indicted.

00:45:36.000 The police questioned Harrison, who's dead now, but when they were attacking his wife and stabbing him, his wife finally hit him over the head with a lamp and they questioned her considering an indictment.

00:45:49.000 I mean, this is the insanity, but this is about training us to accept abuse.

00:45:53.000 And so the statistics are out there.

00:45:57.000 Non-violent offenders stay in longer than violent offenders because they make better Wackenhut workers, private prison workers.

00:46:05.000 Violent offenders are released to continue to create the crisis.

00:46:09.000 Yes, well I believe that.

00:46:11.000 My other question was going to be, is the New World Order behind schedule?

00:46:16.000 I kind of think it is.

00:46:18.000 It is way behind.

00:46:19.000 We've had a lot of victories, and we need to celebrate those victories.

00:46:23.000 But we haven't won the war against the Patriot Act.

00:46:26.000 We haven't won the war against abortion. 0.78

00:46:29.000 And a lot of these are just surface victories, but at least they're having to respond to us.

00:46:35.000 Thanks for the call.

00:46:36.000 That's the key.

00:46:37.000 Weston, Tennessee, you're on the air.

00:46:38.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:46:40.000 Pretty good.

00:46:41.000 What did you research?

00:46:42.000 Now that I can give extract my size 14 foot for my mouth. I'd like to say me a culpa for that

00:46:48.000 That mistake I made yesterday. You were really right on the button. I researched the heck out of that

00:46:54.000 What did you research? I forget the call the Liberty I Was I was questioning why Israel would want to? 0.97

00:47:02.000 Try to drag us into a war against the G Egypt when they seem to be doing so well on their own. Yeah 1.00

00:47:08.000 Israel, and again, I get attacked by the ADL, I get attacked by the Nazis.

00:47:13.000 I mean, there are a bunch of websites, you know, saying I'm a Mossad agent. 0.95

00:47:16.000 It's totally ridiculous.

00:47:17.000 And yeah, I'm an Easter Bunny, too, and a Chinese jet pilot. 0.93

00:47:20.000 But the point here is, Israel didn't control that ship.

00:47:24.000 Israel didn't turn back the fighter jets.

00:47:26.000 Israel wasn't shipping the weapons to Israel.

00:47:29.000 Israel was following orders, and that doesn't defend them. 0.94

00:47:33.000 Israel was being used as the proxy to attack our ship.

00:47:37.000 Yeah, I mean, that was perfectly clear from the research I did yesterday.

00:47:42.000 Well, I mean, this stuff's in the Associated Press now.

00:47:45.000 It's not a secret anymore.

00:47:47.000 I just wanted to say that You know, when we talk about partial birth abortion, or abortion even in the first trimester, when you stop and think that a country whose very first words in its declaration of independence include life, liberty, and so forth,

00:48:11.000 That without life, you can forget about liberty in the pursuit of happiness.

00:48:14.000 Well, I mean, it's like the media saying that Terri Schiavo was a vegetable when she wasn't.

00:48:21.000 When she wasn't, absolutely.

00:48:22.000 So, I mean, it's the same thing.

00:48:24.000 But all I'm saying is, people I respect are saying this isn't a real ban, that it just restricts the way they can do a partial birth abortion.

00:48:32.000 I don't know.

00:48:33.000 I'm going to find out the answers, and I hope it's a real ban.

00:48:37.000 You know what, Alex, no matter where the heck it takes, That's what I'm saying.

00:48:41.000 When we stoop to the level of turning a chamber... It's a compromise!

00:48:45.000 The Republicans control everything!

00:48:46.000 Where is the ban on Roe v. Wade?

00:48:48.000 I want it now, and I don't want to hear that it's politically unpopular.

00:48:52.000 The death crowd's gonna vote for the Democrats regardless of what we do, and the majority of Americans are now against abortion.

00:48:58.000 We've been winning this fight, and we're right down to the goal line.

00:49:01.000 Let's go ahead and run it up the middle and win this thing! 0.50

00:49:04.000 Absolutely.

00:49:05.000 I mean, I stand behind you 100%.

00:49:07.000 That's what I'm saying. 0.92

00:49:08.000 This whole thing stinks because we're all thanking George Bush for saying you can't kill the baby out of the womb.

00:49:14.000 Let's get a ban at least on third trimester. 1.00

00:49:19.000 Now if Bush did that, I have to tell you, that right there would be wonderful.

00:49:27.000 It would also make me almost believe he was a Christian, but I'm not buying it. 0.87

00:49:30.000 You know, you've said that many... Well, I get criticized for saying he's a member of the Grove, and I don't have proofs at the Grove when there's a hundred news articles from the Washington Times and the San Francisco Chronicle with him getting off a jet going in there.

00:49:42.000 Well, I mean, you were there.

00:49:44.000 People?

00:49:44.000 Well, I didn't get video of his face!

00:49:47.000 Well, excuse me, so what?

00:49:48.000 You know, I trust you.

00:49:51.000 Wait a minute, a week later when I got back, they announced on CNN that he picked Dick Cheney at the Grove!

00:49:58.000 Oh, I see. 0.98

00:49:59.000 It's ridiculous. 0.82

00:50:00.000 They admit he goes to the Grove. 0.97

00:50:02.000 They admit he's stolen bones.

00:50:03.000 But still, there's this denial.

00:50:05.000 This is a stronghold of Christianity.

00:50:08.000 I'm sorry.

00:50:08.000 You know, you can walk the walk.

00:50:10.000 I mean, you can talk the talk.

00:50:12.000 But unless you walk the walk, you don't have me convinced.

00:50:16.000 Well, my point is, even if you're not a Christian, you should be against abortion. 0.67

00:50:19.000 Well, sure.

00:50:20.000 Absolutely.

00:50:21.000 It's murder, no matter which way you look at it.

00:50:24.000 And see, now it's euthanasia, now it's eugenics, now it's, see, it's all the other stuff that comes with it. 0.74

00:50:32.000 Yeah, all these names, but you know what?

00:50:34.000 Alex, the day that women start bearing chickens is when I'll accept that abortion's okay. 1.00

00:50:40.000 I mean, what are they trying to convince us that that is growing in that woman's body? 0.97

00:50:45.000 Well, it's amazing and... It's a human being for Pete's sake.

00:50:49.000 It's just a small human being, but it's a human being and if you leave it the heck alone, eventually in nine months you're going to have a big human being.

00:50:57.000 Well, my point is, with partial birth abortion or late term abortion, you can adopt those babies.

00:51:02.000 It needs to be illegal.

00:51:03.000 That's where we start.

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00:54:21.000 Hi Dean and others, your calls are coming up here in just a few minutes.

00:54:24.000 Then we've got Tito Howard coming on the show from the USS Liberty, one of the survivors.

00:54:31.000 Later in the week we've got Captain Ward Boston, the Senior Legal Counsel, who was face-to-face with LBJ when he told him You cover this up, and they've now talked about this in press conferences, on the record, got a bunch of people coming up, we're going to do several shows on this, and again, several shows on what really happened with the partial birth abortion ban.

00:54:53.000 Does it really change anything of substance, or does it just give different targeting coordinates to the murderers, to the abortionists, there at the abortuaries?

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00:56:39.000 Dean in Canada, another call from Canada, go ahead.

00:56:42.000 Hi Alex, I spoke to you the other day, thank you very much for your answer.

00:56:47.000 Bohemian Grove, who are the thousand people that are watching and how did you get in?

00:56:52.000 And after that, I have another question for you.

00:56:56.000 Well, in my video, when you called a couple weeks ago, I asked you, have you seen the video, and you said you hadn't seen Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove, but the first hour of the two-hour and five-minute film is flying there with the British media covering my infiltration, how we snuck in, maps of the grove, video of us sneaking in, but I basically climbed on my hands and knees across fallen trees through a swamp-like moat they dug out, Uh, up over a, uh, fence into the parking area.

00:57:29.000 Then I posed as a Grove member and climbed on one of the shuttle buses that took me into the 2,700 acre Redwood Grove.

00:57:37.000 And, uh, who were the thousand people?

00:57:39.000 Well, the member list has been public and it's posted.

00:57:43.000 At the Sonoma County Free Press Group has been protesting it for 22 years and it's the heads of major banks, governors, Hollywood people, who's who of the elite basically, Bilderberg Group members, CFR members, Trilateral Commission members, that's who goes to the Grove.

00:58:00.000 Wow, that's amazing that there are actually, you know, there's at least a thousand people out there.

00:58:06.000 Yeah, the number total of memberships is about 1,400.

00:58:12.000 Switch topics now.

00:58:14.000 Everyone that's educating us about, you know, the Illuminati, New World Order, etc., etc., is always doing it in contrast with Christianity, which puts Christianity in a favorable... Well, what does that say about Christianity, that we're the people fighting the New World Order?

00:58:31.000 I'm not sure what it says, but that's one thing I wanted to talk to you about.

00:58:36.000 Well, you know what?

00:58:37.000 I've got Tito.

00:58:39.000 We've got Howard coming on the show, but we'll get him on in about five minutes.

00:58:42.000 Stay there, and I'll try to answer your question when we start the next hour, but I'm not exactly sure what your question is specifically.

00:58:49.000 But we'll talk about it on the other side.

00:58:51.000 I'm talking about real Christians, certainly the establishment Christians are telling us George Bush is basically the second coming.

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00:59:27.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:28.000 Again, I feel I just need to state this again.

00:59:32.000 The Las Vegas Review-Journal has got members of the U.S.

00:59:35.000 gcn radio network live from austin texas

00:59:41.000 alex jones you know i feel like i think this type of thing in the las

00:59:47.000 vegas review journal has got members of the u s senate members of the

00:59:52.000 legislature talking about how they're now using the patriot act against

00:59:56.000 county commissioners against hopeless bars

00:59:58.000 in zoning corruption cases Peace.

01:00:02.000 So again, see we told you so.

01:00:05.000 I told you that over two years ago when I read the Patriot Act.

01:00:08.000 We're all terrorists, from misdemeanors to felonies.

01:00:12.000 If you're suspected of committing any crime, you have no rights under the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.

01:00:18.000 And I'm going to get into more of the Patriot Act in a third hour and a ton of other news I haven't even gotten to.

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01:00:32.000 This is all mainstream news.

01:00:34.000 A bunch of horrible news of how they're treating the veterans on Veterans Day.

01:00:38.000 In the next segment, we're going to have Tito Howard, who made the Loss of Liberty film, who's one of the head folks with the Liberty Alliance, along with Captain Ward Boston, who's coming on later this week, dropping the bombshell that LBJ told them!

01:00:56.000 Here to cover up that Israel intentionally attacked this ship and tried to sink it and strafe the lifeboats, try to blame it on Egypt.

01:01:04.000 But again, the Pentagon was in control of that with LBJ.

01:01:07.000 This has now come to light, as we told you years ago it was, from all the evidence.

01:01:12.000 That's coming up.

01:01:13.000 But Dean in Canada, he called a couple weeks ago or was it last week and said, asked questions about the Bohemian Grove video and Again, there's just so many mainstream news articles out there.

01:01:26.000 They admit the Grove's real.

01:01:27.000 The world leaders go there.

01:01:29.000 Helmut Schmidt, in his own book, Men and Powers, German Chancellor, before Helmut Kohl, said that, I'm a member of the Trilateral Commission, CFR.

01:01:37.000 I love the Druid rituals we do at the Bohemian Grove with the presidents.

01:01:42.000 I got video of the ritual.

01:01:42.000 I snuck in there.

01:01:44.000 The Grove admits on national television, on the Trio Network, that I indeed did get this video.

01:01:49.000 It's a real story.

01:01:51.000 And Dean keeps bringing that up and asking questions, which I think is important.

01:01:57.000 Are you doubting what I'm saying, Dean?

01:01:57.000 Why?

01:02:03.000 I became a little bit suspicious because the video wasn't clear, to tell you the truth.

01:02:08.000 Now, you said you haven't seen the video.

01:02:10.000 You haven't seen my video.

01:02:12.000 Yeah, no, I'm sorry.

01:02:13.000 What you posted on the net wasn't clear, I should say.

01:02:18.000 Well, there's a lot of other clear video streams on the web.

01:02:21.000 Some of our streams aren't the clearest.

01:02:23.000 You might search around.

01:02:24.000 I mean, we're not masters of the whole, what they call, video cleaning for the web.

01:02:28.000 But, again, you just keep saying that wasn't clear.

01:02:32.000 Have you researched mainstream news articles?

01:02:35.000 Type in Bohemian Grove, hundreds will pop up in your search engine.

01:02:38.000 Have you researched the Grove?

01:02:40.000 I was just going to ask you that next.

01:02:42.000 Where can I go to do that, but if that's all that it takes... You go to a major search engine, you type in Bohemian Grove, George Bush.

01:02:49.000 That's amazing.

01:02:50.000 You go to a major search engine, you type in Skull and Bones, George Bush.

01:02:54.000 I've seen that.

01:02:55.000 That I have seen.

01:02:56.000 I've actually watched video on that.

01:02:57.000 Of course, not with his face, but you know, other videos of Skull and Bones.

01:03:01.000 No, because they don't take their black hoods off.

01:03:03.000 That's right.

01:03:04.000 You know, like the SWAT teams.

01:03:05.000 You go, show us their faces.

01:03:07.000 When we go into court about a SWAT team blowing a child in half, they go, well, what was the badge number?

01:03:07.000 Yeah.

01:03:13.000 Well, whose face was it?

01:03:16.000 And then we have a little problem, like bank robbers do.

01:03:19.000 Okay, can I get back into the issue of Christianity now?

01:03:22.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:03:24.000 I've been raised Pentecostal.

01:03:26.000 Let me just get right to the point here, and I don't mean for this to be offensive in any way, believe me, but I think that, you know, The way that I was raised was about the most controlling way anybody could possibly be raised.

01:03:38.000 Now, everything that's being said, I, you know, I love the information that people like you bring out, but I can't, I can't fully hop on board with it all because of the contrast that is always there with Christianity being the, I don't know... Well, look, I'm not asking you to hop on board. 0.91

01:03:54.000 You should investigate what we're talking about and do what you feel is right, okay?

01:04:00.000 I mean it's real simple and your parents loved you and didn't want you to end up in prison or on heroin probably.

01:04:08.000 They were probably scared to death of the world getting you and destroying you.

01:04:16.000 Thanks for the call.

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01:07:31.000 Alright, over the years we've had filmmaker Tito Howard on who is an investigative reporter

01:07:45.000 and made the film, Loss of Liberty.

01:07:46.000 We've had with Mr. Howard on some of the survivors of the USS Liberty and he's really been a focal point in getting a lot of the victims, the heroes together concerning this subject.

01:08:03.000 And now that a new book came out propagandizing about how it was a big accident by Israel on June 8, 1967 to attack the USS Liberty in international waters and torpedo it and napalm it and white phosphor it and shoot it with cannons and strafe the lifeboats for hours.

01:08:23.000 And when this new book came out, whitewashing it, Captain Ward Boston, who we're getting on the show later this week, Senior Legal Counsel for the Navy's Court of Inquiry into the attack on the Liberty, his statement was read by Rear Admiral Merlin, starring a former Judge Advocate General of the Navy, following her portions of what he said.

01:08:44.000 We'll go over that.

01:08:47.000 And he also talks about how he was there with LBJ and McNamara, and told to cover up the fact that Israel attacked the ship on purpose.

01:08:56.000 And again, we've talked to a lot of the survivors on the show.

01:08:58.000 We're setting them back up for the show to go over this later this week.

01:09:04.000 It's clear that the U.S.

01:09:05.000 government was in control of that ship, knew it was going to happen, and wanted to be sunk, turned the fighter jets back when the ship called for help, because they wanted that ship to sink, all aboard to be killed, to blame it on Egypt!

01:09:18.000 And we've had the pilots, some of the Israeli pilots have gone public and said that they knew it was an American flag.

01:09:23.000 They radioed back three times and said it's an American ship.

01:09:26.000 We're ordered to still attack it.

01:09:29.000 Once the people finally were rescued and got on board the aircraft carrier, an admiral talked to them and said, if you ever tell anybody what happened, you'll be arrested or worse.

01:09:39.000 And joining us is the documentary filmmaker Tito Howard, who again is lining up for us a bunch of folks.

01:09:46.000 We've had Admiral Moore on before, we've had a bunch of the people on board the ship on the show, but we're going to be having more of them up this week.

01:09:53.000 But somebody who's very articulate, done some of the best research is Tito Howard, this investigative journalist and the maker of The Loss of Liberty.

01:10:00.000 Thanks for coming on the show, Tito.

01:10:02.000 Oh, I don't know what you left for me to talk about.

01:10:05.000 It's good to be back on with you, Alex.

01:10:08.000 It's great to have you here, and any word yet on what day this week we're going to be able to have some more of the folks on?

01:10:14.000 Well, I'm going to be meeting the admirals tomorrow afternoon and let them know what's happening.

01:10:19.000 These are fighters, but they're older fighters, and I just need to coordinate things smoothly for them.

01:10:26.000 But you and I will talk about it later this afternoon, perhaps.

01:10:29.000 What about, absolutely, what about the Captain Boston?

01:10:33.000 Oh yes, I think he's critical to this now.

01:10:36.000 He's the news thing.

01:10:37.000 We organized a thing on Capitol Hill at the Rayburn Building as the guest of Congressman John Conyers of Michigan.

01:10:46.000 And we met in the Gold Room in the Rayburn Building.

01:10:51.000 And at that press conference, there was only two.

01:10:54.000 I normally introduce them, but I wanted this just to be the American Navy and the pro-Israeli lobby.

01:11:01.000 And it worked.

01:11:03.000 Moorer was terrific.

01:11:04.000 91 years old and I filmed it.

01:11:07.000 I'll have some copies ready by Thursday.

01:11:09.000 I'll send you out one, because it's powerful.

01:11:12.000 And then having a former Judge Advocate General of the Navy, who also had very close, insightful knowledge of the liberty thing, who went on to become the Chief Navy Lawyer to the Secretary of the Navy.

01:11:33.000 That's where Admiral Merlin's starring.

01:11:35.000 That's right.

01:11:36.000 And this man speaks in a very clear, strong voice.

01:11:41.000 And him reading Captain Boston's affidavit, we got him to sign it in the form of an affidavit.

01:11:50.000 And this is what made it newsworthy.

01:11:52.000 I knew we had scored when Associated Press on their webpage had this 36-year-old story under Latest News.

01:12:02.000 And Ward Boston is the reason for that.

01:12:04.000 Here's a guy who kept silent for 36 years and now he says that that court was ordered by President Johnson and Secretary McNamara to come up with a mistaken identity.

01:12:15.000 Now I've got an AP, I've got a Washington Post, I've got a Newsmax article here.

01:12:20.000 According to his quotes, that he was there in the room with Johnson and McNamara, telling him, you cover this up.

01:12:31.000 That is massive.

01:12:32.000 It is massive, yeah.

01:12:33.000 And Isaac Kidd had indicated to some other people, some crew members and others, you know, that it should be investigated more.

01:12:41.000 I think it haunted him.

01:12:43.000 He wound up a four-star admiral and was generally well-liked.

01:12:47.000 I think that was the one stain on him.

01:12:50.000 And, you know, his father was a great American sailor who was killed on the Arizona at Pearl Harbor in 1941.

01:12:58.000 And so, I mean, there's so much historicity into this, but Moore raised some very important things that were not in the actual documents.

01:13:08.000 We put together a thing of the findings.

01:13:11.000 These were 12 separate findings that all of the people on this commission signed.

01:13:18.000 With the exception of Ray Davis, he died on September 3rd.

01:13:22.000 He was a four-star Marine General and very critical on some of the findings and other things that we put together.

01:13:29.000 Now Tito Howard, I want to make it clear when I do make a mistake, I'm the first to admit it.

01:13:29.000 We miss him.

01:13:34.000 It's probably been a year since I had you and some of the victims on.

01:13:37.000 You were not on board the ship.

01:13:38.000 You're the investigative journalist we've had.

01:13:40.000 I don't know.

01:13:41.000 I've probably done five shows on this.

01:13:43.000 I've probably had a dozen people on over the last three or four years.

01:13:46.000 Good.

01:13:47.000 On this subject, I want to make that clear earlier.

01:13:49.000 But again, later this week, we're going to do probably two hours on this and have several of the survivors on.

01:13:55.000 And we've had, again, quite a few over the years.

01:13:57.000 But to hear their first-hand stories of being napalmed and white phosphorus and torpedoed For those that just joined us, before we get into the findings and what Captain Boston has said on the record, for those that just joined us, what happened to the USS Liberty in 1967?

01:14:16.000 Well, the Liberty was our best intelligence ship.

01:14:20.000 Probably the best in the world.

01:14:23.000 It had a moon-bounce dish on the back, on a tall structure.

01:14:26.000 structure had eight forty foot uh... whip antennas totally uh... different

01:14:34.000 uh... with his topside configuration any ship in the world and this was perfect weather

01:14:40.000 the liberty was under the surveillance of israeli aircraft thirteen different

01:14:44.000 times starting at six in the morning and stopping shortly after

01:14:48.000 noon on the eighth of june and a little after two o'clock about two oh five the

01:14:54.000 liberty was attacked by a total of

01:14:57.000 at least twelve israeli uh... unmarked aircraft The only time that I know of where Israeli forces used unmarked aircraft in any of their wars, but they did on the Liberty, which certainly helps to indicate what kind of an attack it was.

01:15:15.000 Now, the Liberty was pounded for about 25 minutes by these planes.

01:15:21.000 there were probably eight barrage three east at the time one of the better combat

01:15:26.000 aircraft in the world the second was also french built the super mister slower

01:15:32.000 but a much heavier bomb loaded with the super misters at dropped at least six containers

01:15:37.000 of napalm and and the white phosphorus an additional thing of white phosphorus on the

01:15:42.000 ship and larry weaver one of the survivors who lives now in california

01:15:47.000 still has to wear white gloves with a phosphorus burns on his hand

01:15:51.000 an outrageous attack and then the motor torpedo boats arrived

01:15:56.000 at about two thirty seven if memory serves me correct and they

01:16:03.000 uh... fired six torpedoes at the liberty Only one hit, and that was, you know, this is the Israeli Army and Navy that was very, very highly rated.

01:16:14.000 The Air Force had done an incredibly powerful job on wiping out the Egyptian Air Force on the ground on The morning of June the 5th. 0.94

01:16:25.000 So the Liberty then, while the air attack was going on, the attacking Israeli aircraft were jamming all five of our American emergency radio signals.

01:16:38.000 But the crew, incredibly brave, able crew, and of course there's always some that panic under attack situations.

01:16:45.000 Most of these guys had not seen panic.

01:16:48.000 I mean, had not seen combat.

01:16:50.000 The main players in it were absolute heroes.

01:16:56.000 George Golden down in the engine room, Captain McGonigal on the bridge, and people like Smitty That was a 30 foot hole, correct, through both sides of the torpedo?

01:17:12.000 40 by 42 feet.

01:17:14.000 Oh, 42 feet, excuse me.

01:17:15.000 Yeah, and only one of them hit, and the interesting thing about that is... Wasn't there 700 cannon holes, too?

01:17:21.000 No, there were 821 cannon and missile holes and over 3,000 holes by armored piercing .50 caliber machine gun bullets.

01:17:34.000 Okay, my memory wasn't serving, but you said the interesting part about the torpedo.

01:17:37.000 Yeah.

01:17:37.000 Go ahead.

01:17:38.000 This is why I think that if there ever was divine intervention, this is a good example of it.

01:17:46.000 Here, the crack Israeli military misses in perfect weather on a 460 foot long ship, misses with five.

01:17:54.000 The one that does hit, it's one of the ribs that holds the superstructure together.

01:18:00.000 And otherwise it would have gone into the ship, exploded, probably blown the ship in half.

01:18:07.000 And so hitting the rib, and if anyone had hit even another rib or anywhere else, the ship would have gone down.

01:18:13.000 It's a miracle it survived.

01:18:15.000 And we need to think of the geopolitical inference of that, too, because if the Liberty had survived, the Israelis would still be in control of the entire Sinai Peninsula. 0.74

01:18:31.000 Uh, which would have created serious, uh, problems in addition to the ones that are going on.

01:18:36.000 Now, from having you guys on last time, you all agreed, going from memory here, correct me if I'm wrong, that it was to be blamed on Egypt.

01:18:44.000 Sure.

01:18:45.000 And again, it was the grace of God that that didn't happen because that would have been World War III with the Russians. 0.85

01:18:50.000 Well, I'm not sure if the Russians would have gambled, but they were getting concerned because they were getting embarrassed.

01:18:56.000 And Syria and Egypt were two Arab countries where they had, you know, some influence.

01:19:03.000 But we have to remember that just six years after this war in 1967, that the... Stay there, we'll continue to cover this, to get in the latest developments and take calls.

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01:23:26.000 It's been researching this for years and made a great film, The Loss of Liberty.

01:23:34.000 I'll tell you how to get it later.

01:23:36.000 We're also going to open the phones up later in this hour.

01:23:39.000 The toll free number to join us 1-800-259-9231.

01:23:44.000 Later this week we're going to have some of the survivors back on the show and hopefully

01:23:50.000 some of the admirals that we haven't had on.

01:23:53.000 We've had Admiral Moore on, as well as Captain Boston, who was involved in the cover-up in the whitewash for Johnson, and his first hand in the Oval Office testimony that he's now signed in an affidavit.

01:24:06.000 That's why the media cannot ignore it.

01:24:09.000 You know, Howard, there's so many facets to this.

01:24:11.000 I mean, after the attack took place, we're going to get back into the attack.

01:24:15.000 You have the cover-up.

01:24:16.000 You have the people being told you'll be arrested if you tell anybody about this.

01:24:19.000 You have the secret ceremony giving the captain the Congressional Medal of Honor.

01:24:24.000 And then you have people being attacked by the mainstream media, whoever brought up these issues.

01:24:29.000 It's got to really feel good to you and the survivors of the USS Liberty, the heroes, that now the evidence, bombshell evidence, factual evidence, from so many high-level officers has now come forward.

01:24:43.000 And so I want to fast forward to where this is going, what's going to happen now.

01:24:52.000 Going from two events.

01:24:53.000 We had the one in the Rayburn building on the 22nd of October.

01:24:58.000 And that's what got the AP story, UPI story.

01:25:03.000 It was in a lot of newspapers and picked up by a lot of radio talk shows.

01:25:09.000 But it's still alive.

01:25:10.000 And the approach by the pro-Israeli lobby has been to ignore it to death.

01:25:16.000 But they are really scared of this story.

01:25:19.000 because if there ever is investigation to be very clear that this was premeditated and deliberate

01:25:25.000 and as admiral more said very strong voice this is uh...

01:25:31.000 annex chairman of our joint chiefs of staff probably the greatest

01:25:35.000 living american and we should why would is that why would our government put israel's

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01:25:43.000 somebody gonna have to answer that order all that but one of these days well look

01:25:46.000 we know the u s government the british government the chinese government they

01:25:50.000 do bad things and it's okay to criticize them when you get it israel 1.00

01:25:54.000 they try to paint anybody as you know a wicked devil who does this but they're

01:25:58.000 gonna have trouble with all these heroes and after they've engaged in this cover

01:26:03.000 But again, expanding this discussion, it's obvious the U.S.

01:26:06.000 government had taken control of that ship, the presidency had, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, it's obvious they turned the jets back, and from past discussions, would you agree, Tito, that it's clear that they wanted that ship to go down, this was part of a larger plan, to have the pretext to blame it on Egypt?

01:26:23.000 I think that that's true, and one of the real evidences of that is that The Israelis attacked the ship with unmarked planes.

01:26:34.000 The people on board the Liberty, being pounded from all these different directions, couldn't see any insignia or national identification.

01:26:43.000 So if the Liberty didn't know, how did Washington know to force the recall of a plane sent to help Americans in trouble?

01:26:52.000 And after the heroes on board the USS Liberty, and there were many, The first American hero not on board was Joe Tully, the skipper of the Saratoga.

01:27:04.000 We had two large carriers with the Sixth Fleet in 1967, the Saratoga and the American.

01:27:10.000 And they immediately launched.

01:27:12.000 By immediately, I mean within eight or nine minutes from getting the call through from the Liberty.

01:27:17.000 And the Liberty guys, the radio men, Rocky Sturman, Terry Albartier, and others, there were some really smart people.

01:27:27.000 That figured out that the attacking Israeli aircraft were jamming all five of the emergency American signals.

01:27:37.000 But that when they were firing missiles, they had to cut the thing that was jamming it, because it would have prematurely triggered the missiles.

01:27:47.000 It was in that little tiny window that they got through to the Saratoga, and later to the America, and the Saratoga launched.

01:27:56.000 And those planes were called back, although the Liberty was still under attack, and that's when the second great hero, not counting the men on the ship, Admiral Larry Geiss, who was the carrier division commander, not in tactical command of the Sixth Fleet, that was Admiral Martin, but he would not go along with the order to recall.

01:28:17.000 And so first, McNamara called me, and we just got this interview.

01:28:25.000 With a Mr. Hart who was in Port Laodi, Morocco, and had the responsibility to connect and keep on the line Secretary McNamara and Carrier Division Commander Geiss.

01:28:37.000 And Geiss was refusing to recall the planes because he said, but the Liberty's still under attack.

01:28:43.000 If the attack stops, we'll recall them. 0.96

01:28:45.000 And McNamara insisted.

01:28:50.000 Geist just wouldn't go for it, and McNamara said, we're not going to war over a bunch of dead sailors.

01:28:56.000 Imagine how that would play in the Navy.

01:28:58.000 McNamara needs to be arrested right now.

01:29:00.000 It's outrageous. 1.00

01:29:01.000 He's an absolute piece of trash. 1.00

01:29:03.000 These are new developments with Tito Howard. 1.00

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01:32:27.000 Thank you.

01:32:30.000 Again, my friends, we've had Tito Howard, investigative journalist, researcher, and many of the victims, the heroes of the USS Liberty dastardly attack of 1967, during the Six Day War, on the show.

01:32:46.000 We're going to do a couple more hours on this later this week with Some of the admirals and captains and others that have been blowing the whistle and some of the survivors.

01:32:54.000 I want to get a bunch of these folks on and we're setting it up right now.

01:32:59.000 But there have now been new developments.

01:33:06.000 And in these new developments, We don't just have the evidence of the unmarked planes attacking and then strafing the people and the lifeboats in the water and the assault helicopters coming with the special forces to finish off the job and finally turning back.

01:33:22.000 Now we have the radio operator connecting McNamara's phone call in with one of the admirals who was refusing to turn back the aircraft.

01:33:33.000 We also have Captain Boston who was in the White House During the whitewash when LBJ and McNamara said, cover this up.

01:33:42.000 Tito Howard, let's continue with these new revelations.

01:33:46.000 Where are you left off?

01:33:47.000 Recapping that and then continuing it.

01:33:50.000 This is an amazing development.

01:33:52.000 Oh, it is indeed.

01:33:54.000 I'm sorry, Alex.

01:33:55.000 The one thing is that didn't happen in the White House.

01:33:57.000 It happened in Malta, in Naples.

01:34:01.000 It happened on board the Liberty.

01:34:03.000 The livery from the 8th to the 13th was limping at 5 knots to get the maul to get in the dry dock and get, you know, repaired.

01:34:13.000 And that's when he had those contacts with, you know, Admiral Kidd, who was the president of the Navy Board of Inquiry.

01:34:24.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:34:26.000 Well, I'm mixing two different instances together.

01:34:30.000 Because we got caught off in the break.

01:34:32.000 You were talking, Tito Howard, you were discussing the radio transmission during the attack from McNamara to the Admiral.

01:34:42.000 Yeah, Larry Geist, the carry division commander.

01:34:45.000 And it's interesting because Geist never did agree to do that from McNamara, and the commander in the field, he doesn't agree with an order, has the right to ask the next higher up, well after the Secretary of Defense, it's the President.

01:35:00.000 And that's when Johnson got on and also got mad with Geis, and he yelled at him, he says, I don't care if the ship sinks and we lose all hands, we're not going to embarrass our ally Israel.

01:35:12.000 Alright, let me stop you right there, because we got interrupted by a break.

01:35:15.000 I want you to start back over.

01:35:17.000 This is so important, Tito.

01:35:18.000 It is.

01:35:19.000 With the ships under attack, the radio operators figure out that they're being jammed, but that they have to turn off the powerful jamming transmission to fire their missiles, because that could interfere with it.

01:35:32.000 Let's start over from there.

01:35:33.000 They get the distress signal out.

01:35:35.000 What happens next?

01:35:36.000 Okay, Joe Tully, the skipper of the Saratoga, launches.

01:35:41.000 And Don Engin was the skipper of the America.

01:35:44.000 He was Captain Engin in those days.

01:35:46.000 He retired as a two-star admin.

01:35:49.000 I knew him when he was the director of the Air and Space Museum in Washington.

01:35:52.000 Very bright guy.

01:35:54.000 But he had it wrong on Liberty, and I just slowly turned him in the first three meetings we had.

01:35:59.000 And I was going to do an interview with him on August 8th, a couple of years ago, and he was killed in a glider crash in Nevada three weeks before.

01:36:10.000 Anyway, let me get back to the other, because the breaking thing is important.

01:36:13.000 Here is Ward Boston, who had an exemplary career in the Judge Advocate General Corps, and we have Merlin Starring, the only other high Navy legal official, who was the Chief Legal Officer for Admiral John Sidney McCain, Jr., the Commander-in-Chief of U.S.

01:36:34.000 Navy Europe, which encompassed the Mediterranean.

01:36:37.000 He's the senator's father.

01:36:40.000 Yeah, that's John McCain's daddy.

01:36:41.000 That's right.

01:36:42.000 John Sidney McCain, Jr.

01:36:43.000 So he was a great admiral in a lot of ways, but he got caught up in the political thing here.

01:36:49.000 And, you know, trying to cover up.

01:36:51.000 And my favorite line in my film I wrote at 3 o'clock in the morning, in the doctor Richard Kiefer, who was an incredibly tough and brave man in 1967.

01:37:05.000 The ability to get that much power on a ship and have the ship survive just spoiled a lot of people's plans.

01:37:17.000 But now we have, oh wait, the line I was going to give, because it's a powerful line, and I wrote it at three in the morning, and what the line was, never before in American military history has a military board of inquiry Nor the eyewitness testimony of American military, and taking on faith the word of their attackers.

01:37:39.000 And Dr. Kiefer delivers it in the film, I think, very well.

01:37:43.000 So, we've got a lot of things, but now to get back toward Boston, let me just read, if you'll give me a couple of minutes to read, just a couple of quotes from this affidavit, which is the news-breaking thing.

01:38:00.000 I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of mistaken identity despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

01:38:18.000 So, and he says, it is important for the American people to know that it is clear that Israel is responsible for deliberately attacking an American ship and murdering American sailors. 0.86

01:38:30.000 And so, you know, incredible breakthrough that this guy would say this 36 years later.

01:38:38.000 And a pro-Israeli retired Navy captain, Jay Crystal, wrote this book, which is a total whitewash and infuriated this guy.

01:38:49.000 I saw Captain Boston back in February, and I have him on film saying these things.

01:38:56.000 So, I mean, we'll save it for posterity.

01:38:59.000 And to have the man who was in London at the time, and the Chief Navy Legal Advisor to Admiral McCain, to come out and read it and talk about how he was taken out of the whole loop of judicial review, which is almost unheard of in the Navy, because, in his words, he was having serious problems with the evidentiary support of the findings of fact of the uh... findings of fact

01:39:30.000 of the navy board of inquiry that's powerful stuff and we did that on capitol hill

01:39:36.000 in the the main congressional office building

01:39:40.000 and then uh... last wednesday admiral starring in i uh... spoke to the exchange club in washington dc in the u

01:39:47.000 s senate and they're all admirals and and and generals of that that

01:39:51.000 i met in that group

01:39:53.000 so we have some real momentum and i'm glad alex that that you're picking it up with the

01:39:57.000 with the same insightful coverage that that you did before

01:40:01.000 before.

01:40:02.000 And I think we, and your people should, the ones that don't have a copy of the film, just write to Liberty Alliance, Box 663, Front Royal, Virginia, 22630.

01:40:15.000 They're $25 a piece, but they're $50 for three.

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01:40:24.000 And then you get the findings, and there's also the 20 most commonly asked questions

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01:40:33.000 I would also recommend that people, because ultimately we're going to have to win this information battle in the trenches, which means American Legion posts, VFW posts, Veterans for Peace, and get them committed.

01:40:49.000 This is a story a long time ago.

01:40:52.000 When Admiral Starring and I spoke at the Exchange Club on Capitol Hill last Wednesday, it was amazing to me.

01:40:59.000 I'm standing up there talking to these people.

01:41:01.000 They're believing us because it's blessed by Admiral Moore, and they all know who he is, and he's greatly admired by all military people that I've talked to.

01:41:10.000 And here's Merlin Starring in XJAG, and they're reading the thing from Captain Boston.

01:41:15.000 So they believed it, but they didn't know the truth.

01:41:18.000 I'm talking about admirals, you know?

01:41:20.000 It's amazing.

01:41:21.000 How this cover-up has worked so well for so long with the complete complicity of the American media.

01:41:27.000 Now, Tito Howard, we're going to give that address out again before this hour ends.

01:41:31.000 Folks, get ready with a pen and paper for that. 1.00

01:41:33.000 It's a great film.

01:41:34.000 We've aired it here locally on cable more than a dozen times.

01:41:37.000 It's one of the most popular, popularly requested items that we do air here routinely on Time Warner, Cable Channel 10 and 16.

01:41:48.000 Before we go to Darren and Mike and others that are patiently holding, and the toll-free number to join us is 1-800-259-9231.

01:41:53.000 1-800-259-9231. We got interrupted by that break 12 minutes ago and that was so important what you

01:42:03.000 were getting into with the gentleman relaying the call, listening to the call from McNamara

01:42:10.000 and then LBJ getting on the phone during the attack telling the Admiral you turn that second

01:42:16.000 group of planes back.

01:42:18.000 Can you recap that and go over that?

01:42:20.000 Because you were still talking when we hit the break.

01:42:21.000 Yes, because it is a critical part of the story and the part that has more in some of these admirals most upset.

01:42:31.000 Let's use Admiral Moore's words.

01:42:33.000 He said, those sailors and marines, there were three marines on Liberty, two of them were killed.

01:42:37.000 He said, those sailors and marines deserved our best defense.

01:42:41.000 And we gave them no defense.

01:42:44.000 That's powerful for the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

01:42:51.000 Well, we lost his phone line.

01:42:54.000 And that happens sometimes.

01:42:56.000 Are you back Tito?

01:42:59.000 We're going to get him back.

01:43:01.000 That happens a lot with these type of interviews.

01:43:05.000 Oh boy.

01:43:06.000 And let me just read what Captain Boston... The most stunning revelation was a statement by Captain Ward Boston, the Senior Legal Counsel for the Navy's Court of Inquiry into the attack on Liberty.

01:43:19.000 This statement was read by Rear Admiral Merlin Starring, a former Judge Advocate General of the Navy, following reportions of what he read.

01:43:27.000 This is right next door to the Capitol.

01:43:29.000 The late Admiral Isaac Kidd and I were given only one week to gather evidence for the Navy's official investigation.

01:43:36.000 Despite the short amount of time we were given, we gathered a vast amount of evidence, including hours of heartbreaking testimony from the young survivors.

01:43:43.000 The evidence was clear.

01:43:44.000 Both Admiral Kidd and I believe with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew.

01:43:53.000 I am certain that the Israeli pilots that undertook the attack, as well as their superiors who had ordered the attack, were aware the ship was American.

01:44:01.000 I saw our flag, which was visibly identified.

01:44:04.000 The ship is American, riddled with bullet holes, and heard testimony that made it clear that the Israelis intended that there be no survivors.

01:44:11.000 Not only did the Israelis attack the ship for over two hours with napalm, gunfire, and hundreds of rockets and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats with machine guns, three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt to save the crew, a war crime.

01:44:26.000 After saying he was moved to speak out after the book titled The Liberty Incident by Jay Kristol, he described it as an attempt to whitewash the facts.

01:44:34.000 He then dropped a bombshell saying, I have first-hand knowledge from many personnel.

01:44:40.000 Again, I have first-hand knowledge from many personal conversations with Admiral Kidd, President Lyndon Johnson, and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara personally ordered him to cover up the true facts and conclude that the attack was a case of mistaken identity despite overwhelming evidence.

01:44:55.000 To the contrary, Again, LBJ also rescinded an order to send carrier-based fighter planes that were only 15 minutes away to defend the liberty.

01:45:03.000 Now we've got Mr. Tito, Tito Howard, the filmmaker researcher back on.

01:45:09.000 Tito, Let's get this out again.

01:45:12.000 During the attack, McNamara, LBJ, on the phone with the Admiral, out there in the Mediterranean, from Washington, and you have witnesses that were transferring the call, listening to it in Navy Intelligence.

01:45:24.000 You have these witnesses.

01:45:25.000 I have it on film, even.

01:45:27.000 You have it on film, even?

01:45:29.000 In February, I'm going to be putting together a new version of the film with Captain Boston.

01:45:35.000 And this man, Hart... Repeat what Hart heard McNamara and LBJ say about that ship.

01:45:46.000 He only heard the conversation between McNamara and Larry Geiss.

01:45:50.000 Geiss is the real hero in all of this.

01:45:52.000 He and Joe Tully of the Saratoga.

01:45:55.000 What conversation was it where LBJ says, I don't care... That was later because Admiral Geiss, the Carrier Division Commander, Had to write the challenge in order to the next higher up.

01:46:06.000 That's when Lyndon Johnson got on the phone.

01:46:08.000 Okay, let's make this clear then.

01:46:09.000 Go through that chain of events, please.

01:46:11.000 Okay, the first contact went through Fort Lauderdale, because that handled from the Pentagon where McNamara was.

01:46:19.000 So then Johnson came through and that was routed some other way, so the same person did not hear both conversations.

01:46:28.000 That conversation was told to David Lewis, who is the The Chief American Intelligence Officer on board Liberty, that was our most sophisticated intelligence ship, and he had two-thirds of the people on board Liberty were intelligence people, mostly Navy, but three Marines and one civilian, and so they were, let's see, you've got the first conversation

01:47:00.000 We have the guy on film who did that.

01:47:02.000 The second conversation, David Lewis was Commander Lewis at the time, and the Chief Intelligence Officer.

01:47:11.000 He was the highest ranking of the most seriously wounded, which were medevaced on the morning of the 9th from the Liberty, about 830 to 9 o'clock, to the America, which they had more doctors and Although Dr. Kiefer was still going, the man had badly damaged legs, 11 pieces of shrapnel in his abdomen, which he kept together with a life jacket.

01:47:36.000 The man stood on those legs and operated for 28 hours, and nobody's ever heard of him until our film.

01:47:42.000 Anyway, then Johnson calls him, but through another routing, and it was Larry Geist telling this to David Lewis, and so it was David Lewis who waited until Admiral Geist died, and then he told that.

01:48:00.000 And so that's the second.

01:48:02.000 In that conversation, Johnson was getting mad at this guy because he was refusing the President of the United States, who was trying to recall the planes.

01:48:11.000 Although, how the hell did we know that it was Israelis at that time? 0.87

01:48:15.000 You know, with unmarked planes.

01:48:16.000 The Liberty didn't know it.

01:48:17.000 And they're saying, we're not going to embarrass our ally.

01:48:20.000 He said, I don't care if the ship sinks and we lose all hands.

01:48:20.000 That's right.

01:48:24.000 We're not going to war and embarrass an ally.

01:48:27.000 I mean, it's outrageous!

01:48:28.000 You know, it's like his Gulf of Toc and Vietnam stuff, and just as deadly on a smaller scale. 0.98

01:48:35.000 I mean, there were 70% casualties on the Liberties, the most decorated crew in the history of the United States.

01:48:41.000 And the guys themselves have been battered all these years, the government turned their back on them, they were incredible heroes at the time, and, you know, they're on, some of them have a heavy antidepressant drug, some of them even drink, I mean, it's terrible what's happened to these Great American heroes and uh... I've worked closely with him for a long time and uh... it's it's difficult it's very difficult and you have to understand things from their perspective.

01:49:09.000 Now going back to the first conversation with McNamara calling back the aircraft again how did that take place?

01:49:14.000 uh... no McNamara uh... that was the first conversation because Larry Geiss had also launched well this time we already have twelve planes and four A-4 You know, Gasoline equipped the A-4's, because it was very far away in combat.

01:49:34.000 Yeah, that's fine.

01:49:36.000 So he, McNamara, was trying to get Larry Geist to recall him, and Geist never did agree to do it.

01:49:45.000 He insisted on speaking to President Johnson, he was the next tire up.

01:49:49.000 And even he was arguing with Johnson after that.

01:49:52.000 Johnson said, I don't care, you know, if the ship sinks, we lose all hands.

01:49:56.000 He's not really embarrassed.

01:49:57.000 I mean, look at this.

01:49:58.000 We've got the President and the Defense Secretary managing this as the ship's under attack and the ship doesn't get aid until the next morning.

01:50:06.000 That's correct.

01:50:07.000 When we come back, I want to go to Darren and Mike and others that are patiently holding.

01:50:13.000 And I want to go over the machine gunning of the live boats.

01:50:15.000 That's important.

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01:53:47.000 Because in Operation Northwoods, the 1962 plan by L.L.

01:53:52.000 Lemitzer, it calls for blowing up U.S. 0.98

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01:54:09.000 We saw the Gulf of Tonkin.

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01:57:40.000 Okay, it is the Liberty Alliance, Box 663, Front Royal, Virginia.

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01:58:54.000 All right, my friends, we've got Tito Howard, the documentary filmmaker, investigative journalist, Ph.D.

01:59:01.000 in modern military affairs and history.

01:59:05.000 And later this week, we're going to have Captain Boston, who was involved with the cover-up under orders from LBJ and others, coming on.

01:59:14.000 We're going to line up some admirals and hopefully some of the survivors that we've had on in years past.

01:59:18.000 Now it's broken big news because such big guns in government are telling the truth about it.

01:59:25.000 And again, Tito Howard, kicking off this investigative report, because we're going to do several of these this week, is joining us.

01:59:32.000 We've got loaded phone lines, a lot of patient listeners.

01:59:37.000 1967, during the Six Day War, June 8th, 1967, over a dozen Israeli fighter bombers, six attack torpedo boats, Attacked the ship, but by the grace of God it didn't sink.

01:59:51.000 Most highly decorated, highest number of casualties in U.S.

01:59:56.000 history for any one ship in one attack.

01:59:59.000 The captain was given the Congressional Medal of Honor in secret.

02:00:02.000 And now the cover-up's coming out.

02:00:04.000 But the bigger cover-up is that the U.S.

02:00:06.000 government controlled that ship, meant to sink it, to blame it on Egypt.

02:00:10.000 And I've talked to the survivors, Tito Howard, the admirals on the show.

02:00:14.000 I've been talking about this for four or five years, I guess.

02:00:16.000 They agree this is part of a New World Order takeover system, basically government-sponsored terrorism.

02:00:22.000 It's the same M.O.

02:00:23.000 over and over again.

02:00:24.000 Tito, you ready to go to some of these calls?

02:00:27.000 Great.

02:00:28.000 Let's talk to Darren in Colorado.

02:00:28.000 Let's do it.

02:00:30.000 Darren, you're on the air.

02:00:31.000 Go ahead.

02:00:32.000 Thank you, sir.

02:00:33.000 You bet.

02:00:34.000 I'd like to wish you both a wonderful day, and it's a privilege to be here with you.

02:00:38.000 I am usually in lockstep with the views you espouse, Alex, but I've got to take issue with this one.

02:00:46.000 My rudimentary knowledge of the attack on the USS Liberty is that it was our highest technologically advanced surveillance ship of the day.

02:00:57.000 And what they were doing were monitoring the Israeli Army's communications and they were beaming those to the Arab assailants against Israel.

02:01:09.000 That's just not true.

02:01:10.000 That's just not true.

02:01:12.000 Liberty was there to monitor everything in the Middle East.

02:01:16.000 We were not taking sides in the conflict, certainly not openly.

02:01:21.000 There is strong Feelings that there are people inside our government that help set the liberty up.

02:01:28.000 As Alex had mentioned.

02:01:29.000 But this argument has been used a lot to denigrate the argument of this brave crew.

02:01:35.000 Well let me ask the caller a question.

02:01:37.000 Tito, let me ask the caller a question.

02:01:39.000 So is it good that they didn't allow the planes to go defendant?

02:01:44.000 Is it good they strafed the lifeboats in the water?

02:01:47.000 Because they were quote, helping the Arabs?

02:01:52.000 my understanding so now americans come second okay i got my understanding

02:01:56.000 is that the israelis hand was forced because they needed to knock that ship out

02:02:03.000 And their only aim was to disable its monitoring capability, not to sink it, not to kill America.

02:02:10.000 That's why you shoot it with a torpedo and blow a 42-foot hole in it and have thousands of cannon holes?

02:02:15.000 And a two-hour and 15-minute attack.

02:02:18.000 And then I guess strifing the lifeboats is to stop them from using a ham radio to warn the Arabs. 0.99

02:02:22.000 I mean, even this heart-string-tugging rehashment of all the survivors, just the fact that there are all these survivors, I think it's important for this gentleman to understand that on the 8th of June, all the fighting was done.

02:02:36.000 man what do you want to have a seventy percent casualties man and we never

02:02:41.000 uh... you know but i think it's important

02:02:43.000 uh... for this gentleman to understand this is set on the eighth of june

02:02:49.000 all the fighting was done the israelis had won the war actually by the evening

02:02:53.000 of the six and they had

02:02:56.000 they realized that if you took all of the arab military from

02:03:01.000 morocco to kuwait At that point in history, they could defeat him. 0.99

02:03:05.000 But they did not yet have the Golan Heights.

02:03:09.000 I tell you what, stay there, Darren, okay?

02:03:12.000 Are you there, buddy?

02:03:13.000 Okay, Darren, don't hang up.

02:03:16.000 I want to talk to you on the other side.

02:03:19.000 I mean, you talk about psychological gymnastics to make excuses for this.

02:03:25.000 But I guess you're not saying that the Liberty wasn't intentionally attacked.

02:03:28.000 Now it's because their hands were tied.

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02:06:55.000 Alright, later this week, we have a bunch of the survivors of the USS Liberty.

02:07:00.000 We have some of the officers involved in the cover-up under Johnson's orders.

02:07:04.000 We talked to him.

02:07:07.000 And all these years, we have a filmmaker, Tito Howard, been researching this for years, on with us, Law Celebrity Filmmaker.

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02:07:15.000 All these years, oh no, Israel didn't know, it was a mistake, it's a conspiracy theory to say that.

02:07:20.000 Now the people involved in the cover-up have gone forward with incredible honor.

02:07:24.000 And so this caller, Darren, says, well, the Israelis had their hand forced, as the war was ending, to go ahead and try to sink this ship.

02:07:33.000 No, they didn't try to sink it, I guess that's why they strafed the lifeboats.

02:07:37.000 I mean, I have no... the psychological gymnastics of rationalizing this, you know, it's like rationalizing Bill Clinton bombing Oklahoma City, or the connections with the U.S.

02:07:48.000 government and Al-Qaeda.

02:07:49.000 I mean, we've had Israeli writers on to talk about the Israeli government killing Yitzhak Rabin, I guess.

02:07:55.000 You know, I mean, can Israel do something wrong? 0.80

02:07:57.000 You know, I've focused mainly on the U.S.

02:07:59.000 government using Israel to do this, to expand the war into Egypt, which they wanted to do. 0.58

02:08:04.000 That's what the evidence shows.

02:08:05.000 But, Darren, to have you here defending this atrocity and saying, oh, that's why there wasn't that many casualties, when it's record casualties, and talking about heartstrings here, and the Admiral threatening the sailors on board the ship, keep your mouth shut or you're going to prison.

02:08:20.000 Go ahead, defend yourself, Darren.

02:08:22.000 I'm amazed by your statements.

02:08:27.000 Well, we may have lost Darren, but let me just say this.

02:08:30.000 Well, hold on.

02:08:31.000 Is Darren not there?

02:08:32.000 I'm right here.

02:08:33.000 Talk.

02:08:33.000 Go ahead, Darren.

02:08:34.000 The Jews, when you do the mass, should have lost that war. 1.00

02:08:37.000 They did everything they had to do to win, and even to this day, it's a miracle they overcame the numbers they were up against.

02:08:44.000 So LBJ's saying, I don't care if they all die, so what?

02:08:47.000 That's a good thing?

02:08:49.000 They needed to do what they had to do.

02:08:51.000 There was no military Necessity for the Israelis to do anything... Wait a minute, I thought it was an accident! 0.95

02:08:58.000 Hold on! 0.98

02:08:59.000 Israel always said it was an accident!

02:08:59.000 Hold on!

02:09:01.000 Are you saying they're lying?

02:09:03.000 I'm saying that both governments sought to let this thing stay underneath a rug.

02:09:08.000 Well, why didn't they just pull the ship out? 0.98

02:09:10.000 That's ridiculous! 0.91

02:09:11.000 The White House knew it was Israel attacking it. 0.97

02:09:13.000 Why didn't they just pull the ship out of there?

02:09:15.000 They wanted to sink that ship to blame it on Egypt!

02:09:15.000 That's the President!

02:09:19.000 The Americans were helping the Arabs. 0.91

02:09:20.000 That's what that ship was doing.

02:09:22.000 I've talked to people.

02:09:22.000 No, that's not true.

02:09:23.000 We were shipping them, shipping the Israelis all the weapons. 1.00

02:09:26.000 That's insane!

02:09:27.000 Well, we weren't sending that many weapons at that time.

02:09:30.000 They're mostly dependent on French weapons.

02:09:32.000 But it is very true that we knew that there would be an Israeli victory. 0.96

02:09:39.000 It wasn't a surprise.

02:09:40.000 And they wiped out 80% of the Egyptian Air Force on the ground.

02:09:44.000 The same numbers that we lost at Pearl.

02:09:47.000 With a non-carrier Pacific Fleet.

02:09:49.000 We lost 80%.

02:09:50.000 The war was over, except that the Israelis wanted the Golan Heights and all of the West Bank, which they took. 0.88

02:10:00.000 I am by no means a scholar on this subject.

02:10:03.000 Well, don't pick up on Israeli spin, because they're the best in the world at it.

02:10:08.000 The truth is that that was premeditated and deliberate, and I came upon this very honestly Because I was told that by Admiral Thomas Moore in 1975, that it was a premeditated and deliberate attack, and that it was five months after he stepped down from being Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

02:10:28.000 When I first... In my film... Darryl, have you seen the film?

02:10:32.000 What film?

02:10:33.000 My film, The Laws of Liberty.

02:10:35.000 No sir, I have not.

02:10:36.000 Well, you should order a copy of the film and then present the argument.

02:10:40.000 I've got Arlie Burke in there.

02:10:41.000 You remember the USS Cole?

02:10:43.000 that was attacked by terrorists in yemen in october of two thousand yes sir that

02:10:47.000 was one of twelve rd ebert class of destroyers that's how big a man

02:10:52.000 he was to the navy in this country and he calls it an act of war in a deliberate attack

02:10:57.000 i've got six medal of honor heroes in that film general ray davis uh... four star

02:11:02.000 marine general medal of honor from the chosen reservoir Tito, let me ask this question.

02:11:07.000 Because it's admitted that the Israelis strafed with the gunboats the life rafts.

02:11:12.000 Why'd they do that?

02:11:13.000 No, the gunboats did, not the airplanes.

02:11:15.000 I mean they said gunboats.

02:11:16.000 Yes, yes.

02:11:17.000 Why?

02:11:18.000 Well, because they didn't want any survivors.

02:11:21.000 That's why later on there were two large Israeli helicopters and one of the crew members took a photo of one of them and I had the thing blown up and that's when we discovered That it was first attacked by the Israeli Air Force, then by the Israeli Navy.

02:11:37.000 These two helicopters were Israeli Army commando helicopters.

02:11:42.000 Had 18 heavily armed men on it.

02:11:44.000 They were sent there to finish it off.

02:11:47.000 Why did they turn back?

02:11:49.000 Because they picked up that American forces were finally on the way.

02:11:53.000 It wasn't true, but it worked.

02:11:55.000 It's an absolute miracle that that ship survived.

02:11:58.000 And the problem in the Middle East As far as the American people is concerned, is that there is absolutely no causal relationship, no cause and effect for the things that Israel does. 0.52

02:12:11.000 We just passed the 20th anniversary of 243 marines, later 268 total, some dying from wounds, in Beirut, Lebanon.

02:12:22.000 Our marines would not have even been there if the Israelis had not lied to our government, saying they were going to go 20 kilometers into southern lebanon and they said they would not go to beirut 0.93

02:12:33.000 they went to beirut in arab capital

02:12:36.000 i don't want to divert off into other subjects we know but it's the same

02:12:40.000 thing let me just stop you we got a bunch of calls to you i really appreciate you

02:12:43.000 uh... darren any final comments when i first

02:12:48.000 sought to educate myself on this subject i listened to talk radio and i called a couple

02:12:52.000 prominent radio talk shows and i found it to be such a contentious issue that they wouldn't

02:12:58.000 allow the the format on the air the subject matter on the air

02:13:01.000 When I was able to get people to engage me on it, my main references come from a writer named John Loftus.

02:13:09.000 John who?

02:13:09.000 John Loftus.

02:13:11.000 And he wrote a book called... Well, sir, all we're doing is going off the admirals, and the captain of the ship, and the witnesses, and what's admitted.

02:13:19.000 And I appreciate the call.

02:13:20.000 We gotta go to other callers.

02:13:21.000 I just... You need to get informed, sir.

02:13:23.000 Order the film.

02:13:24.000 Look, I'll criticize Germany, I'll criticize England, I'll criticize the U.S.

02:13:28.000 government, I'll criticize Israel, I'll criticize anybody that does something wrong.

02:13:32.000 I stand up against evil activities.

02:13:34.000 And this was evil, leaving our men out there to die, and the real culprits here, even bigger than Israel, is LBJ and that turkey McNamara, and all the rest of them. 0.63

02:13:43.000 Now let's go to Mike in Arizona.

02:13:46.000 Mike, you're on the air, go ahead.

02:13:48.000 Yeah, hi Mr. Howard, Alex.

02:13:50.000 You know, I was just amazed listening to the former apologist for Israel, but you know, sadly, I think much of what he was saying comes right out of the pulpit of many of the evangelical churches in this country.

02:14:06.000 This Israel worship is what it amounts to that says that we must bless Israel by turning a blind eye to every crime they commit. 0.99

02:14:18.000 And I don't think that's what the Bible teaches, and I know it doesn't teach that.

02:14:23.000 Well, I mean, that's what Jesus was doing when he was there criticizing the corruption of the establishment.

02:14:27.000 I mean, all these governments.

02:14:29.000 The Bible says the devil has the whole world in his sway.

02:14:32.000 And I mean, you know, I mean, let's go off the Bible. 0.96

02:14:35.000 If the Antichrist is going to go take over Israel, we're going to be told to worship the Antichrist? 0.68

02:14:39.000 I mean, this is ridiculous, but my whole point here is we have the facts of the USS Liberty, and people are still in denial about government-sponsored terrorism.

02:14:48.000 Yeah, for him to suggest that.

02:14:50.000 Well, look at how many survivors there were.

02:14:53.000 Only two-thirds of them had injuries or were killed.

02:14:56.000 It's like saying, look at all the Jewish survivors from World War II.

02:15:01.000 Well, there couldn't have been any atrocities committed against the Jews.

02:15:05.000 No, it's just as callous as that is.

02:15:08.000 But let me ask you, there are a couple of serious questions I have.

02:15:12.000 At what stage of the Arab-Israeli War was the attack on the Liberty?

02:15:16.000 Was it toward the beginning of the war?

02:15:18.000 Oh, no, the beginning of the war.

02:15:21.000 It was the wee hours of June the 5th.

02:15:23.000 The Israelis attacked in force.

02:15:26.000 The Egyptians had been told earlier that day that there would not be a war, so they were sort of relaxed, and the Israelis knew it. 0.94

02:15:34.000 The Israelis claimed that the Israelis had moved armor and infantry out of the Sinai into the Negev desert.

02:15:42.000 It was a lie.

02:15:44.000 And nobody's challenged that except some in the UN, but certainly not in our government.

02:15:48.000 So they, under the guise of that excuse, wiped out 80% of the Egyptian Air Force.

02:15:55.000 At that point, the war was really over.

02:15:57.000 They had to do some clean-up stuff.

02:16:00.000 If you remember, the genesis of the 1967 war had to do with the closing of the Gulf of Aqaba through the Straits of Tehran near Sharm el-Sheikh.

02:16:09.000 And Yutant, who was then the UN guy, I ordered under Nasser's thing, Nasser wanted to pull back, I think it was 20 kilometers or whatever it was, and we told him, no, just take them out of Sinai, and that laid the groundwork.

02:16:25.000 So, we do not have very clean hands in that, and one has to remember that six years later, we were helping Israel so much that the Arabs made an oil embargo against us and Western Europe and everybody else.

02:16:43.000 And it destroyed literally thousands of American companies.

02:16:48.000 We've got to move on.

02:16:49.000 Anything else there, Mike?

02:16:51.000 Yeah, Alex, by the way, our policy changed dramatically when Kennedy was assassinated and Johnson took over.

02:16:57.000 Absolutely.

02:16:58.000 Suddenly it opened up wide.

02:17:00.000 From white to black.

02:17:01.000 Did Israel ever fly combat missions against any of the Arab states without identification markings?

02:17:07.000 Never that I know of, except in this case.

02:17:10.000 Just this case.

02:17:11.000 That's my understanding.

02:17:12.000 And the Joint Chiefs of Staff had taken specific control of that ship weeks before this happened and had it parked out there under their control.

02:17:21.000 Correct, Tito?

02:17:22.000 That's correct, and there were three messages that were sent by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to the Liberty, and this is part of what Alex was referring to earlier, the setup of the Liberty.

02:17:37.000 The Joint Chiefs of Staff was trying to get the Liberty to move further offshore, because it was getting through some of its intelligence in Tel Aviv and some other places, that the Israelis were contemplating an attack on the Liberty.

02:17:50.000 But all three of those messages got misrouted.

02:17:53.000 One went to Port Laioti in Morocco, one went to Crete, and one went to Subic Bay, our big Navy base at that time in the Philippines.

02:18:01.000 None of them reached the liberty until after the attack.

02:18:03.000 That's outrageous.

02:18:04.000 We gotta break.

02:18:05.000 It's obvious, folks.

02:18:07.000 Again, get past Israel, get past all this stuff. 1.00

02:18:10.000 The United States government was doing this and controlling this.

02:18:14.000 Do you understand that?

02:18:17.000 To blame it on Egypt to expand the war.

02:18:21.000 The Northwoods plan being activated.

02:18:24.000 That's exactly what the Northwoods plan calls for sinking a ship and blaming it on someone.

02:18:30.000 We'll be back with more calls.

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02:22:26.000 Evil is evil.

02:22:44.000 And government-sponsored terror is the norm, not the exception.

02:22:48.000 And the evidence is crystal clear and hardcore that the Israeli and U.S. 0.78

02:22:53.000 governments were trying to sink that ship to blame it on Egypt. 0.96

02:22:58.000 And, I mean, it just shows the, frankly, the delusional nature with that caller, Darren, earlier.

02:23:05.000 Darren, I'm not your enemy.

02:23:06.000 I mean, you sounded like a nice guy.

02:23:08.000 You know, saying, well, you know, they just wanted to break the antennas and shows the low level of casualties.

02:23:15.000 It's record casualties for a single ship.

02:23:18.000 I mean, it just, everything you said goes against the facts here.

02:23:23.000 We're talking to Tito Howard, filmmaker.

02:23:24.000 We're going to have some of the survivors on later this week with Tito.

02:23:27.000 Elizabeth and Marilyn, you're on the air.

02:23:29.000 Go ahead.

02:23:30.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:23:31.000 This is really four-star radio investigative journalism, and I'm very grateful to you and Tito Howard.

02:23:38.000 I look forward to the continuing series.

02:23:40.000 If you recall, about three weeks ago, I phoned you that I was going to start a radio show on 840 WKDI in Annapolis.

02:23:49.000 And it's on Fridays for a half hour after your show.

02:23:52.000 One of our great affiliates, God bless him, go ahead.

02:23:54.000 Yes, and I think that you've inspired me quite a bit that this is the same wheel of evil that you've described there in the way you said that the precedents were set for the future provocateur and terrorism incidents, and like the Northwoods plan, and I think it's almost like a perfect closure today, Alex.

02:24:14.000 Here's the U.S.

02:24:15.000 Liberty, and I'm going to On Veterans Day, I'm going to ask people to write to Ron Paul and the Liberty Committee and to all other legislators and fax them and telephone them.

02:24:28.000 And the reason is, the latest understandings that I have on the Universal National Service Act, not just the draft, and the bill is H.R.

02:24:37.000 163 in the House, And in the Senate it is 89.

02:24:41.000 That's 163 HR and Senate 89.

02:24:44.000 Now that's accurate.

02:24:45.000 I have that in Police State 3.

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02:24:52.000 Tito Howard comments to what she's saying.

02:24:55.000 Well, I'm very interested in what the lady said.

02:24:59.000 And the only chance to get the truth out against a very powerful Of course, like the pro-Israeli lobby in this country, is through radio programs, community access television, because the mainstream media just won't be nudged.

02:25:17.000 We had a breakthrough meeting on Capitol Hill, followed by another meeting at an important group, the exchange club in the U.S.

02:25:28.000 Senate.

02:25:31.000 You know, the mainstream newspapers have not picked it up.

02:25:35.000 op-ed pieces, there should be debates, there should be all this stuff, but we are so committed

02:25:42.000 to the interests of Israel that we tend not to pay much attention to our own interests

02:25:51.000 and what the tremendous cost...

02:25:52.000 On Veterans Day, we've got witnesses, high-level officers, saying, Johnson said, I don't care if they all die.

02:25:58.000 That's wrong, folks.

02:26:00.000 troops come first.

02:26:00.000 U.S.

02:26:02.000 And again, this is our own government carrying out Northwoods.

02:26:05.000 Thanks for the call, Elizabeth.

02:26:06.000 Could I add one more thing?

02:26:08.000 Real quick, there's other calls.

02:26:09.000 Great, I think the rubber is meeting the road, that if we don't complain now, we are not going to have our liberties, because the only reason we won't have, we won't have any armed forces, it'll be to maintain internal order here, as part of the UN Peace Force.

02:26:24.000 That's it, thanks for the call, and notice the symbology, the USS Liberty attacked, And today we see government-sponsored terror being used as a way to attack our real liberties.

02:26:37.000 It's out of control.

02:26:38.000 Alex, that's why I named the film, The Loss of Liberty, because it means both.

02:26:44.000 We're going to plug after this break real quick.

02:26:46.000 I've got to get the video again.

02:26:47.000 Peter in Florida, you're on the air.

02:26:49.000 And then Roger, that's it for calls.

02:26:50.000 Go ahead, Peter.

02:26:51.000 Yeah, hi Alex.

02:26:52.000 I've got a question for Howard.

02:26:53.000 On the 15 hours after the attack, that none of our fleet out there went to help him or rescue him?

02:27:00.000 I believe there was one Russian ship that pulled up and asked if they wanted assistance and they said no.

02:27:05.000 That's correct.

02:27:07.000 Was there any radio communication going on during that 15 hours, like calling for help?

02:27:11.000 Well, there was communication after the attack was finally called off at about 4.27.

02:27:18.000 So it was a 2 hour and 15 minute attack.

02:27:24.000 And of course those Russians wanted that secret transmission system. 0.83

02:27:28.000 Yeah, and Russian trawlers also track the Liberty all the way to Malta, hoping to get some papers or stuff floating by them.

02:27:36.000 Maybe a status report on the condition of the ship, so they would know how to play it out later or something.

02:27:42.000 On May 14th, a bunch of admirals went down to Washington, D.C.

02:27:48.000 for a news conference to try to address the Congress, to put the pressure on.

02:27:54.000 Do you remember that?

02:27:55.000 May 14th?

02:27:58.000 Yeah, May 14th of last year, I think.

02:28:01.000 Oh no, I know what that was.

02:28:02.000 No, that was our announcement that the film was done in the formulation of the Liberty Alliance with Moore as the chairman.

02:28:11.000 That was done in the Army-Navy Club and well attended.

02:28:16.000 We got a break again.

02:28:17.000 Do a few more minutes with Tito.

02:28:18.000 Take a final call from Roger.

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02:31:53.000 Arguing the money is now needed for Iraq's reconstruction.

02:31:56.000 you That's from London Guardian.

02:32:00.000 Also, mystery illness causing major U.S.

02:32:02.000 troop casualties.

02:32:03.000 Army orders Mother of Seven back to duty in Iraq.

02:32:07.000 Not enough troops for Veterans Day parades today.

02:32:11.000 Also, martial law to be declared in London.

02:32:14.000 No one's allowed to protest Lord Bush when he comes to town.

02:32:19.000 That's good news.

02:32:22.000 Jessica Lynch to be supposedly naked in Hustler Magazine.

02:32:27.000 So that's just classic.

02:32:30.000 It's a lot of key stuff coming up here in about 5-10 minutes.

02:32:34.000 I appreciate Cheeto Howard coming on.

02:32:36.000 It's been an interesting show.

02:32:38.000 We're going to have him back up with some of the officers involved in the whitewash that have now gone public because of their conscience and some of the survivors later this week, Thursday or Friday.

02:32:46.000 We should have another two hours on it.

02:32:48.000 But again, I'm no enemy of Israel, folks.

02:32:50.000 I'm no enemy of Germany, of England, of the U.S.

02:32:53.000 government.

02:32:53.000 They're bad people.

02:32:54.000 Tearing out acts of terror against their own citizens to blame it on foreign enemies is a pretext for war.

02:33:00.000 You better start figuring this out, folks.

02:33:03.000 That's what we're focusing on.

02:33:04.000 Before we go to a final call, Tito, any other key points you want to add here?

02:33:09.000 Well, I think that we need to really harness the momentum coming out of these admirals and Navy JAG officers that have stepped up after all this time, and we need to Give very strong support for this crew that's somehow kept up the fight all these years.

02:33:29.000 That according to an earlier caller, needed to go ahead and die.

02:33:32.000 Well that's outrageous. 0.95

02:33:34.000 People have been rain washed, so they're very sympathetic to anything the Israelis do.

02:33:39.000 And the comment about the evangelicals is unfortunately true. 0.99

02:33:43.000 And I know some, and they're awfully good people, some very good citizens.

02:33:47.000 But on this issue, it's very, very dangerous for the future of this country and Israel. 0.90

02:33:53.000 Well, look...

02:33:54.000 And certainly for Jerusalem.

02:33:55.000 Well, look, DynCorp, a U.S. company, nothing to do with Israel, got caught kidnapping 200,000

02:34:01.000 women and children, and along with the U.S. government.

02:34:05.000 government and the U.N.

02:34:06.000 And that's mainstream news.

02:34:08.000 Then I cover what 60 Minutes has Israel having these big slave brothels of kidnapped women and children. 0.90

02:34:14.000 I've exposed Saudi Arabia too.

02:34:16.000 Why is it okay when I expose Saudi Arabia or Bosnia or Dyncor? 0.99

02:34:20.000 But I talk about Israel.

02:34:21.000 Oh no, they can't do anything wrong!

02:34:23.000 I know, it's outrageous.

02:34:25.000 It's like they're above the law and that's what's happened here.

02:34:28.000 We live in a society that's democratic and based on the rule of law.

02:34:32.000 and we place the israelis above the law there's a lot of it

02:34:36.000 it many instances and proofs of that but i think the most blatant is the is the attack on the

02:34:41.000 liberty well it's like uh...

02:34:44.000 Arnold Schwarzenegger says he loves Hitler and the Simon Wiesenthal Center endorses him

02:34:44.000 Absolutely.

02:34:48.000 and then you're a Nazi if you're against Nazis.

02:34:51.000 I mean, I'm not going to sit here and put up with this. 0.85

02:34:55.000 It's like when Israel said we'll kill U.S. citizens without a trial in the U.S. and the

02:34:59.000 FBI says no comment.

02:35:01.000 That's Reuters, folks.

02:35:02.000 It's absolutely bad.

02:35:03.000 It's awful, really.

02:35:04.000 But it's the same thing with the Liberty.

02:35:05.000 But again, it's bigger than Israel from all the evidence and the survivors and the people

02:35:10.000 have agreed.

02:35:11.000 government was orchestrating this.

02:35:13.000 Final call, Roger in Pennsylvania, you're on the air, go ahead.

02:35:17.000 Yes, thanks gentlemen, and just before my real question, I just wanted to respond to Darren in this vein, and it seems to me that the purpose for Israel was just to disrupt the intelligence-gathering ability. 0.67

02:35:34.000 Of course, assuming, not assuming that would have been a valid objective in advancing Israel's interests, of course, that, I'm guessing, could have been, was accomplished a quarter of the way into the attack, with no need to sink the ship otherwise. 0.53

02:35:51.000 Is that a pretty valid surmise?

02:35:53.000 Well, no, no, that's true, but I mean, there's a lot more to it than that.

02:35:57.000 But I mean, the assumption that the Israelis had to knock out the Liberty for The ongoing war and the safety of Israel is just not true.

02:36:10.000 The war was over.

02:36:11.000 The Israelis had won the war, but there were three reasons, in my view, that the Israelis attacked the liberty, and that there was some complicity with our government at the highest level.

02:36:23.000 I take it no one's ever argued that America would have been in a position of providing information to anyone other than Israel anyway?

02:36:31.000 Well, there is that, but we would not do anything that would harm Israel's interests, because we had agreed to the Israeli attack on Egypt because we had bought the Israeli argument that Nasser was the key to bringing communism to North Africa and the Middle East, which was not true, but that was what was believed.

02:36:52.000 Tito, days before, days before, you've got Uh, the message is to pull the ship out of there, and then those messages are rerouted, and then LBJ could have, anytime he wanted to, called that ship back, but they didn't.

02:37:08.000 They had the planes all painted up, they covered up the insignias, the whole thing was a setup.

02:37:14.000 Yeah, no, it is outrageous, and it needs to be fully investigated.

02:37:18.000 We don't call for a congressional investigation.

02:37:24.000 It was taken away from the Navy in 67.

02:37:27.000 By the political maneuverings of LBJ.

02:37:29.000 But go over the three points of why... Okay, alright, in this order.

02:37:34.000 The Israelis knew that they'd won the war by the 6th of June.

02:37:39.000 The fly in the ointment for them taking the Golan Heights and all the West Bank was the Liberty. 0.64

02:37:44.000 That was a very strong reason for the attack.

02:37:47.000 They wanted to get it out of the way.

02:37:49.000 If they could sink it, kill all the survivors, blame it on Egypt, then the second reason would come in. 0.76

02:37:55.000 If you remember Eleven years prior to that, under the cover of the Hungarian Revolution in 1956, the Israelis, with military and diplomatic help from the English and the French, attacked Egypt.

02:38:10.000 The Israelis had gone all the way to the east bank of the canal.

02:38:17.000 The United States was not even involved in the decision, we weren't even told about it, but Eisenhower was president.

02:38:24.000 This was an election year, but he was furious.

02:38:27.000 He sailed part of the 6th fleet between the English fleet and the Egyptian coastline to get the message, and he ordered the Israelis out of Sinai.

02:38:36.000 They refused, and their propaganda machine kicked up here, but Eisenhower was a man of great courage, and he insisted that they get out, threatened to Cut off all aid?

02:38:47.000 We're out of time.

02:38:49.000 Obviously sink the ship as a pretext to go into Egypt and expand the war.

02:38:52.000 Okay, yeah, but the argument here is, and it is very clear, is that in 1956 they were forced out of the Sinai because of world public opinion and American political pressure.

02:39:06.000 Now, if the Liberty sank with the loss of all hands and it was blamed on Egypt, number one, it would have been believed And number two, there wouldn't have been any world public opinion against, and there certainly wouldn't have been any American political pressure.

02:39:22.000 And the Israelis would still be in Sinai. 0.96

02:39:25.000 They'd still be in Sinai, and that's what Northwood says.

02:39:29.000 It says, by blowing up ships, it will cause a helpful wave of indignation to blame on our enemies.

02:39:36.000 So, we understand, and that is so central.

02:39:39.000 So that's the two points.

02:39:40.000 What's the third point?

02:39:40.000 Okay, now, you have the three.

02:39:45.000 You have to understand the situation of where everything was in 1963.

02:39:51.000 The Israelis wanted to build the greater Israel, Golan Heights, Sinai, West Bank, and all of those things, and if they could bring The United States, even into the war from a subjective sense of resupply and so on.

02:40:18.000 Looks like the Lusitania.

02:40:20.000 Similar, similar.

02:40:26.000 If one looks at all of the preparation that went into this, and we have to remember that this decision had to be made very high up at the time.

02:40:35.000 Levi Eshkol was the Prime Minister.

02:40:37.000 And within an hour of the attack going, we already have LBJ knowing all the details.

02:40:42.000 And ordering us back, although nobody could know it was Israelis, so somebody here had to be involved, had to be people around LBJ.

02:40:50.000 And Alex, just one other comment, if I might.

02:40:53.000 We have to remember that at that time, you had Walter Rostow, who was Chief of Staff and Chief Security Guy, a big Zionist, and his brother, Eugene Rostow, who later was head of American negotiations with the Russians on disarmament. 0.91

02:41:13.000 Eugene Rostow was Undersecretary of State and in charge of the Mideast Desk in the State Department.

02:41:21.000 Okay, I got to end it there.

02:41:23.000 Thanks for the call, Roger.

02:41:24.000 Tito and Howard are going to be back on with some of the officers and some of the survivors.

02:41:29.000 You can line up three or four of them if you want.

02:41:32.000 I'm going to try and set it up for Thursday and Friday.

02:41:37.000 I'm meeting with the Admirals tomorrow.

02:41:40.000 Once I know how that's going, then I'll call Captain Boston.

02:41:43.000 We'll get you some people Thursday, Friday, Monday latest.

02:41:47.000 We'll coordinate that with you, but call me if you would.

02:41:52.000 Tomorrow evening or early Thursday morning.

02:41:56.000 We'll just go ahead when you talk to them, find out what's good for them.

02:41:58.000 Go ahead and try to set them up for Thursday or Friday from noon central on.

02:42:02.000 We'll do two hours on it.

02:42:04.000 And one more time, that mailing address for folks that want to get a copy of Loss of Liberty.

02:42:09.000 Okay, it's box... First, it's Liberty Alliance.

02:42:13.000 This is the Chairman's Admiral Moore.

02:42:15.000 It was sent to the Liberty Alliance Box 663.

02:42:20.000 Front Royal, two words.

02:42:22.000 Virginia, that's the capital of the Shenandoah, Front Royal Virginia, 22630.

02:42:29.000 It's $25 for a single copy, $50 for three.

02:42:33.000 Make the check payable to Howard Films.

02:42:37.000 Howard Films.

02:42:39.000 Tito, thanks for coming on the show.

02:42:40.000 All right.

02:42:40.000 Thank you, Alex, for the opportunity.

02:42:42.000 You bet.

02:42:43.000 I appreciate it.

02:42:44.000 And if some of that sounded a little helter-skelter, folks, it's just so many facts, so many witnesses, so many documents, so many different angles here.

02:42:54.000 But this is what I do.

02:42:55.000 I expose government-sponsored terror.

02:42:57.000 And our government clearly was operating under Operation Northwoods.

02:43:01.000 It's exactly what's in there.

02:43:04.000 The sniper attacks, the hijacked jets, all of it.

02:43:08.000 Gulf of Tonkin.

02:43:10.000 Hitler did it with attacking his own radio men on the Polish border and then blaming it on Poland.

02:43:15.000 I mean, it's what these governments do!

02:43:19.000 And I don't care what government you are! 0.98

02:43:21.000 You start killing American citizens and killing our troops, I'm gonna expose you! 1.00

02:43:25.000 You killed Yashak Rabin, we expose that! 0.99

02:43:29.000 They don't want the Jewish people being free. 1.00

02:43:31.000 They don't want the Palestinians being free. 1.00

02:43:33.000 The New World Order runs America.

02:43:35.000 They run Israel. 0.94

02:43:36.000 They run everybody. 0.98

02:43:37.000 And they're a bunch of Satanists. 0.86

02:43:38.000 They're not Jews. 0.98

02:43:39.000 They're not Germans. 0.97

02:43:40.000 They're not Easter bunnies. 1.00

02:43:42.000 They're evil people! 1.00

02:43:44.000 They're evil people! 0.98

02:43:46.000 And we've got to come together and say no to this.

02:43:48.000 And on Veteran Day, on Veterans Day of all days, To have somebody who sounded like a nice guy, believing he was saying the right thing.

02:43:57.000 He didn't sound like a bad person, going, well, this just had to happen to our troops.

02:44:01.000 It's sick!

02:44:02.000 It's insane!

02:44:03.000 It's nuts!

02:44:05.000 I appreciate her holding the last 12 minutes, and then in the final segment, I'm going to hit some really key new stuff about what's happening to veterans right now.

02:44:13.000 But before we do that, Debbie, thanks for holding New Millennium Concepts.

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02:44:27.000 How are you doing, Alex?

02:44:29.000 Pretty good.

02:44:30.000 Good.

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02:54:01.000 Look at this. 0.80

02:54:01.000 Ludicrous EU official ready to ban yogurt. 0.80

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02:54:13.000 Another article here, they're talking about bringing in for questioning, possibly indicting a bishop because he said that people could reform themselves and not be homosexual.

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02:54:36.000 Argument that money was now needed for Iraq's reconstruction, veterans' lawyers said yesterday.

02:54:42.000 Well, I guess, you know, the troops are traitors if they ask for their money.

02:54:46.000 Again, they're traitors if they don't, you know, take their shirts off so enemy troops can shoot them easier. 0.63

02:54:51.000 You know, this is the new patriotism. 0.90

02:54:54.000 A mystery illness causing major U.S.

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02:55:07.000 We're going to have James talk around about that.

02:55:10.000 Army orders a mother of seven back to duty in Iraq despite the fact she may lose custody of her children because her husband's in the military too.

02:55:21.000 They say they don't care.

02:55:22.000 He's been ordered back on that plane and flying out of the country.

02:55:26.000 Another article here out of the Washington Post.

02:55:28.000 Not enough troops for Veterans Day parades, even as thousands of U.S.

02:55:31.000 troops are stationed in war zones abroad in 160 countries.

02:55:35.000 Plans for Veterans Day parades across the country are being scaled back or scrapped.

02:55:38.000 No problem.

02:55:39.000 Not enough troops.

02:55:40.000 Tanks are humvees to wow the patriotic crowds.

02:55:44.000 With a large number of active and reserve units called up, a lot of them would normally be available, but they're not available.

02:55:50.000 See how serious this is?

02:55:53.000 And they are basically declaring martial law for three days in London.

02:55:57.000 When Bush travels there, you're not going to be able to protest in most of the city.

02:56:02.000 And again, they'd like to do that here.

02:56:03.000 It could be like Mexico where they don't allow protest.

02:56:06.000 Also, a plan for UN to run the internet will be shelved.

02:56:09.000 Financial Times of London, an attempt by developing countries to put management of the internet under the United Nations auspices, is likely to be shelved.

02:56:16.000 Next month's World Information Summit in Geneva, but the issue is now firmly on the International Agenda Summit, sources say.

02:56:22.000 And that's taxation of the net, they already control the IP addresses.

02:56:27.000 Jessica's Hustled, a skin mag, playing yesterday.

02:56:31.000 It has pictures of Iraq POW Jessica Lynch frolicking, topless, with male soldiers before she went off to war.

02:56:38.000 And, uh, spokesman for the 20-year-old Army Private, the subject of Sunday's TV movie.

02:56:43.000 Leave it to hustler Larry Flint to do something like this, said Paul Bogards of Alfred Trump Publisher.

02:56:50.000 I am a soldier.

02:56:51.000 Boy, we're out of time.

02:56:53.000 Jets, within minutes, intercepted a plane that strayed close to D.C.

02:56:57.000 in the White House.

02:56:58.000 Why were they told to stand down for over an hour on September 11th?

02:57:01.000 This is out of the Associated Press.

02:57:05.000 We're out of time, folks.

02:57:06.000 I'll be back tomorrow, 11 to 2 Central, during the day, and of course, here at night, 9 to midnight Central Standard Time.

02:57:14.000 Don't forget that new clip of Police State 3 for free, 10 minutes long, is on InfoWars.com.

02:57:23.000 Nuclear reactors provide economical energy, but would you be prepared during an accident?

Alex Jones Show - November 11, 2003

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