Alex Jones Show - 20031120_McClellen_Alex

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00:00:15.000 We're now 33 minutes into the first hour of this show, blasting out coast to coast on the AM and FM dial and at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:00:25.000 I'm coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas.

00:00:27.000 Coming up this weekend is the 40th anniversary of the assassination of one of our greatest presidents, John F. Kennedy.

00:00:35.000 Later, of course, his brother and Martin Luther King were killed in the evidence shows by the same gaggle of individuals in the military-industrial complex.

00:00:43.000 The father of the White House Press Secretary, who himself was a lawyer to LBJ from right here in Texas, is Barr McClellan.

00:00:52.000 And he is joining us from New York today, and he's got a new book out.

00:00:56.000 We're honored, so honored, to have him spend some time with us from his hotel room in New York City.

00:01:04.000 Barr, good to have you on the show, sir.

00:01:06.000 I'm honored to join you.

00:01:07.000 Thank you.

00:01:08.000 Absolutely.

00:01:09.000 I'm kind of down here in your old stomping ground of Austin.

00:01:12.000 Yeah, I did do a lot of stomping around there over the years.

00:01:15.000 College on the way through to heading for Houston back in 1982.

00:01:20.000 Sir, tell us a little bit about yourself, your relation.

00:01:23.000 I mean, I have the Associated Press, the Washington Post here, the bombshell you dropped about a month ago about LBJ and the assassination of JFK.

00:01:32.000 I've had LBJ's former mistress on.

00:01:34.000 I've had a lot of the witnesses on.

00:01:35.000 Their stories all are identical to yours.

00:01:39.000 Can you first tell us a little bit about yourself and then why you've gone public?

00:01:43.000 Sure.

00:01:43.000 I was an attorney in Austin for many years with the Clark Thomas Law Firm and we did the representation for Lyndon Johnson.

00:01:51.000 Clark was the only man he believed Lyndon Johnson trusted and Don Thomas was the business attorney.

00:01:57.000 I was an attorney with them and did a lot of work in that area from 1966 until Johnson's death and even afterwards it continued.

00:02:05.000 I left the firm in 1978 over an ethical dispute, have since moved on and am now finishing up this book.

00:02:13.000 The book is finished, it's out, and I'm telling the story.

00:02:19.000 Now, let's go over what the book covers.

00:02:24.000 Your book, according to press reports, I have not gotten the book yet, though I was told a copy has been sent to me by your publicist.

00:02:32.000 The bombshell that you've dropped is that LBJ had bragged to people that he was behind the assassination.

00:02:40.000 Well, he knew that there was an assassination.

00:02:42.000 He never himself said that he was behind the assassination of John Kennedy.

00:02:47.000 uh... in the law firm and there was plenty of talk along those lines and the

00:02:50.000 word i first heard in nineteen sixty six was that uh...

00:02:54.000 that park was behind the assassination and later this was confirmed in the

00:02:58.000 Well obviously there's a lot of people, I'm talking about that whole power structure, the meeting in Dallas the night before, we've had the witnesses on who said that he bragged that, you know, he'll never bother me again, he'll be dead tomorrow, but go over who Mr. Clark is for those that don't know.

00:03:14.000 Clark was known as the boss of Texas as early as 1949.

00:03:19.000 He practiced law there and had a deal with the judges where the judges would either rule for him in close cases, which meant all cases, and if he wanted to talk to him, he always had access.

00:03:30.000 In turn, he took care of them with benefits of all kinds in all sorts of different ways.

00:03:35.000 He was practicing law in Austin as early as 1934.

00:03:38.000 It's a little known fact that he joined the Army in 1942.

00:03:44.000 When the war was going badly for us, he was stealing money from the quartermaster, for which he was kicked out of the army.

00:03:51.000 Somehow he survived that and gained the power he had.

00:03:54.000 This power continued, and the book has exhibits laying this out, with Johnson saying, you're the only man I trust.

00:04:01.000 I have, you know, deeply indebted to you.

00:04:04.000 But the main thing it shows is how they had a conspiracy as early as 1949, where in Clark's own handwriting he says, we're going to take care of this man for good.

00:04:14.000 And we have this death problem that we got to go along with and Johnson the next day writes back and said we know the risk you're taking and we'll see that you're protected.

00:04:21.000 It lays out that the basic arrangement they had up through past the assassination and that's really the heart of the book.

00:04:29.000 68 exhibits all showing what went on during the Johnson-Clark years and taking through to the fingerprints that put one of Johnson's hitman, Mack Wallace, on the sixth floor in Dallas, and the cover-up, which is also part of the crime.

00:04:44.000 68 exhibits tell the story.

00:04:47.000 Well, again, we're talking to Barr McClellan.

00:04:49.000 His son, of course, is the White House Press Secretary right now as well, and that's caused quite a furor in the press.

00:04:56.000 Barr, I mean, specifically, and again, folks really should get the book, but specifically, The evidence of, and how this evidence surfaced, obviously as LBJ's lawyer, for you, how this surfaced and exactly what they were doing, how the operation was carried out from the evidence you have.

00:05:17.000 Well, what I have shows Johnson's involvement in a crime where a federal agent was murdered on June 3rd of 1961.

00:05:23.000 The grand jury looked into the crime a number of years later and would have indicted Johnson for that murder.

00:05:30.000 The point there was Johnson in 1960 had all the motivations to be president.

00:05:34.000 He'd been de facto president, but had lost out to this young upstart named John Kennedy.

00:05:40.000 Johnson was also in trouble with this murder.

00:05:43.000 He was facing serious problems.

00:05:44.000 Can we have particulars of the murder, please?

00:05:46.000 Yes, the particulars are Billy Solestas had been working with the Department of Agriculture, getting a lot of money.

00:05:53.000 Some of that money was going to Johnson.

00:05:55.000 But he'd gotten in trouble, he, Estes, and the Henry Marshall was investigating the financing.

00:06:01.000 They sent, they, Johnson and Estes sent Mack Wallace, who had killed before for Johnson, to visit Henry Marshall, and on June 3rd, 1961, up in Robertson County, Marshall was killed.

00:06:15.000 He was beat up, carbon monoxide poison was apparently tried, and then he was shot five times in the side with a bolt-action rifle.

00:06:23.000 Because of Clark's control of the justice system, in fact, the ruling was suicide.

00:06:28.000 That was reversed by the grand jury later, and they would have indicted Johnson if he'd still been around.

00:06:33.000 Now the hitman you just talked about, I remember his name being brought up by LBJ's mistress as well, about how he was constantly around him, how if somebody went out with this guy's girlfriend, he'd go after them, just incredible.

00:06:47.000 Well, he was there, but he was kept pretty much undercover.

00:06:50.000 He was sent out to California to give him perfect cover and brought back as needed.

00:06:54.000 He always had a phone number in Dallas where he could be reached.

00:06:57.000 And he was tied very closely to the assassination by an eyewitness who was supposed to be one of the other patsies in the assassination.

00:07:08.000 He wrote a book that came out on what Lloyd Factor saw of Mack Wallace on the sixth floor.

00:07:12.000 We got the fingerprint putting Mack Wallace on the sixth floor.

00:07:15.000 And as you mentioned, Madeline Brown said he was there and Billy Solis said he was there.

00:07:20.000 So we have eyewitnesses, we have fingerprints, and we have a crime scene that shows how it was done.

00:07:25.000 Now, Madeline Brown is the mistress at the party with all the big Texas elite, some of the East Coast elite, basically a planning meeting with LBJ there. 0.98

00:07:36.000 Basically what it boiled down to, when the power structure gets together, they are above it all, and they really don't have to get into the details, but they knew what was going on, and they were behind Johnson, Clark, Wallace, and that happened that day before.

00:07:54.000 Right when the assassination took place, how long did it take you to become aware as LBJ's lawyer of all this going on?

00:08:01.000 Well, I was mentioned first to me in 66.

00:08:03.000 I really didn't believe it at the time.

00:08:05.000 In 73, it was pretty well confirmed to me by Don Thomas.

00:08:08.000 I think it was a good bit of denial on my part.

00:08:11.000 Now, tell folks who Don Thomas is.

00:08:12.000 Don Thomas was the business lawyer for Lyndon Johnson and knew as much about the business as anyone.

00:08:17.000 He was the other partner with Clark.

00:08:20.000 They were the two men, really, that took care of Johnson's affairs.

00:08:23.000 From the people you talked to who were there at the party and the things that, I mean, any particulars you'd like to bring forward for the listeners?

00:08:30.000 No, I wasn't there.

00:08:31.000 I have a good idea of how it was done because Clark had this way of talking insider knowledge and he would give out the information that something really big was going to happen and he had the support of the people for what that was.

00:08:44.000 There was no specific saying of how it was going to be carried out.

00:08:48.000 But as insiders knowledge, he's good at doing that.

00:08:51.000 That's what Brown said.

00:08:52.000 She said they were all just laughing and giggling and saying, boy, we're on the high road now.

00:08:57.000 He won't bother us after tomorrow.

00:08:58.000 Ha ha ha.

00:08:59.000 There was a great deal of pleasure.

00:09:01.000 There were many people who were very unhappy with John Kennedy and were looking forward to seeing him gone.

00:09:08.000 And then now it's even coming out, I'm told, I haven't seen it yet, on the new Discovery Channel and History Channel shows they're airing, with them bragging that, you know, going over the radio, we got him, we got him, right after they blew his head off.

00:09:20.000 These things were all reported and have been there and they are on the History Channel.

00:09:24.000 It's got a three-part series on the men who killed Kennedy and that's all being presented.

00:09:28.000 Now, I haven't seen that report yet.

00:09:31.000 I mean, obviously, everybody's calling me about it and telling me about it.

00:09:34.000 Have you seen it?

00:09:36.000 Well, I was taped for a good part of it for a couple of days.

00:09:39.000 I have not seen it myself because it started while we were up here on a press conference and I just haven't picked it up yet.

00:09:45.000 Now, I know the feeling of being so busy you can't even watch TV.

00:09:47.000 I'm gonna try to watch it tonight.

00:09:49.000 I'm told it's re-airing.

00:09:50.000 Look, this is such a big story.

00:09:52.000 You're right, you know, on the inside of all this.

00:09:54.000 And again, you're quoted in the press as saying that you talked to people in and around Johnson and were saying, oh yeah, he talked about it.

00:10:02.000 What do the listeners need to know and why is this story so important?

00:10:05.000 Well, as laid out in the book, Johnson really got things started when he turned over the Secret Service policy manual for the protection of the President, Ed Clark, while he was still Vice President.

00:10:15.000 In effect, he gave him the master plan for protecting the President.

00:10:20.000 That got Clark started.

00:10:22.000 He could bring Wallace back into the picture.

00:10:24.000 Wallace, we know, through other witnesses, recruited shooters to do the job, including Oswald.

00:10:31.000 We've traced Oswald into the Clark camp through three different sources, and we know that Wallace and Oswald had a practice shot to General Edwin Walker up in Dallas in March of that year.

00:10:45.000 So all this has been traced back and presented and takes us right up to the assassination day itself, where the crime scene, once you analyze it, and knowing this conspiracy was behind it, you see exactly what happened.

00:10:57.000 And I've laid that out in the book, of course.

00:10:59.000 And for those listening to us, from the evidence you have, what happened that day in a nutshell?

00:11:05.000 What happened was Wallace showed up with Oswald.

00:11:11.000 Oswald took the first shot.

00:11:13.000 Wallace took the second shot, Oswald got in a third shot, and a man was over on the Grassing Knoll area, and he took the fatal shot.

00:11:22.000 We know how Wallace got away because we know how Oswald got away.

00:11:25.000 Wallace was ready to leave in an instant, and he did.

00:11:28.000 Oswald saw he'd been duped, he'd become a patsy all of a sudden, and he took off the same way.

00:11:33.000 Now, I've been told by former NSA people, by Brown, the mistress, and by others, and I have the Dallas Times Herald photo of them taking him into custody, We know he was behind the knoll.

00:11:43.000 From your research, was it Harrelson who took the headshot?

00:11:47.000 We have not been able to make that identification yet.

00:11:51.000 We have several good suspects, but we don't have the kind of evidence we have for Wallace where we've got fingerprints and eyewitnesses that were there.

00:11:59.000 So we haven't made that identification yet.

00:12:01.000 I hope the book will bring out some people.

00:12:04.000 Who can help?

00:12:05.000 And we are seeing some of that happen right now.

00:12:07.000 We are getting people coming through.

00:12:09.000 I know Harrelson will not give interviews, Father Woody Harrelson.

00:12:13.000 He's in federal prison for killing a judge at 400 yards with a .243.

00:12:17.000 That's right, and he is inaccessible as far as I know.

00:12:22.000 Well, he's kept his mouth shut and his family's been certainly rewarded.

00:12:26.000 It's all just absolutely amazing.

00:12:29.000 Sir, we're talking to Barb McClellan.

00:12:33.000 He is a former lawyer, personal lawyer for LBJ.

00:12:37.000 His son is the White House Press Secretary right now.

00:12:40.000 Sir, you've got incredible courage coming forward.

00:12:43.000 Number one, have you been threatened in conjunction with this exposé?

00:12:47.000 And number two, why is this all coming out now with the History Channel and Discovery Channel and huge exposés coming right out with LBJ being involved?

00:12:56.000 I mean, this is amazing!

00:12:59.000 Well, it is.

00:12:59.000 And to answer the first question, I haven't been threatened, but a couple of people working with me have had at least some questionable events come up.

00:13:07.000 As far as why it's coming out now, of course the 40th anniversary is one big reason.

00:13:12.000 I wasn't able to get it all together and present it in book form until now, but I first started talking about it in 1984 when I put it in an affidavit in Texas courts and it's been around for that long.

00:13:25.000 It took until 1992 when I had an agent that was interested in the book.

00:13:29.000 We had to do a lot of research to get the prints together, to get all the other exhibits that are in the book.

00:13:34.000 And then we had to present it to the government and that was really the toughest time I had because this is going on in the real world and I had to let the Kennedy family know that this had been done and that we were bringing it out.

00:13:45.000 We had to do that.

00:13:47.000 What did the Kennedy family say to you?

00:13:49.000 Well, we didn't expect an answer.

00:13:50.000 They typically don't.

00:13:53.000 It was a courtesy more than anything.

00:13:55.000 We've had since a call indicating that what went on in Dallas is correct from the Kennedy side of the family.

00:14:01.000 Well, I'm told that JFK Jr.

00:14:03.000 was about to use his magazine to expose this.

00:14:05.000 Have you heard that?

00:14:06.000 I've heard it, but I don't know anything about that.

00:14:09.000 I just don't know.

00:14:11.000 I understand.

00:14:13.000 Obviously, the Warren Commission, the Congress, they all work together with the President to cover this up, to take away the car, to have it refurbished.

00:14:25.000 Uh, you know, to have it rebuilt, to have all the bullet holes covered up.

00:14:27.000 I mean, the cover-up goes on and on.

00:14:29.000 So how does this tie in to the military-industrial complex?

00:14:33.000 Well, what it ties into is a cover-up that was set in place immediately.

00:14:37.000 It started with the first meeting of the Warren Commission.

00:14:39.000 It started with J. Edgar Hoover when he assured everyone there was one lone nut.

00:14:44.000 And some of that's in the book, showing how Clark's hand is there, keeping Ruby quiet and making sure the FBI didn't get investigated for its mistakes.

00:14:53.000 How this all ties in is at the time there was this general feeling that John Kennedy was trying too hard to compromise things with the Soviet Union.

00:15:01.000 There were strong people who wanted to keep up a strong defense and not show any signs of weakness.

00:15:07.000 General L.L.

00:15:08.000 Emmet, sir, was fired by Kennedy when he wanted to carry out terrorist attacks to be blamed on Cuba.

00:15:14.000 And this was all going on and there was a lot of unhappiness.

00:15:17.000 And you've got to remember now, Big Oil had Plenty of money, and a lot of that had gone into the military-industrial complex.

00:15:23.000 And Big Oil did not like John Kennedy.

00:15:26.000 While they were willing to work closely with Lyndon Johnson, I mean, after all, he'd been their lobbyist on the floor of the Senate while he was there, they were really unhappy with John Kennedy.

00:15:35.000 So when Clark talks to him about having to do something there, he got support.

00:15:41.000 Well, you focus in a lot on Clark, but I mean, again, obviously he's just one of those super gophers on the ground.

00:15:47.000 No, he was the top man.

00:15:48.000 He was what was called in some quarters a super lawyer.

00:15:50.000 He was the boss of Texas, according to Reader's Digest, as early as 49.

00:15:54.000 He was running the state.

00:15:55.000 And he had the trust of these men in power, and he could bring them together and keep them together and make sure the cover-up worked.

00:16:03.000 Well, by super gopher, I mean kind of Henry Kissinger to the elite.

00:16:06.000 It really was, and when you say elite, you're really talking the elite.

00:16:10.000 These were the top guys, and you very seldom get to see how they really operated.

00:16:14.000 Well, let's name them.

00:16:14.000 Hunt and... Well, you had Big Oil in Dallas, and Big Oil there was Clint Marcus and himself, and you had Hunt, and you had a couple others.

00:16:23.000 DB, Dry Hole Bird, he was called, and he owned the Texas School Book Depository.

00:16:30.000 Fort Worth picked up a few.

00:16:32.000 These men were the men who were multi-millionaires in the 50s and became billionaires in the 60s under Johnson's helping them out.

00:16:38.000 So they got their money.

00:16:41.000 They were happy.

00:16:42.000 And these were the guys.

00:16:44.000 You can also pick up the Military Industrial Complex in Dallas.

00:16:47.000 Like I say, it was pretty well financed, that big oil.

00:16:50.000 And then you can go down to Houston and see the other friends that Johnson had down there.

00:16:54.000 And you can follow Clark as he talks to these different groups, and that's laid out in the book.

00:16:59.000 How do folks get the book and the name of the book?

00:17:02.000 It's available about everywhere.

00:17:04.000 The name of the book is Blood, Money, and Power.

00:17:06.000 How LBJ Killed JFK.

00:17:09.000 And you can get it on the net also.

00:17:12.000 Well, sir, I know you're very busy.

00:17:14.000 Can you stay with us a little bit longer?

00:17:16.000 I'd be glad to.

00:17:17.000 Fantastic.

00:17:17.000 Do you have an idea how long you can stay with us?

00:17:20.000 I think another 30 minutes or so, so far away.

00:17:24.000 Well, that's great.

00:17:25.000 Let's come back and get into some more evidence and whatever key issues you'd like to cover.

00:17:29.000 And then I'd like to open the phones up, because we have listeners from upstate New York to California to Austin, Texas, who would like to talk with you.

00:17:37.000 Is taking calls okay?

00:17:39.000 All right, folks, your chance to talk to Barr McClellan, an incredible individual, LBJ's personal lawyer, father of the White House Press Secretary.

00:17:50.000 I mean, he's risked a lot going public here, and this is incredible info.

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00:18:52.000 Now, coming up in the next 20 minutes, you know, he's going to be with us for this segment, then 20 minutes into the next hour, Next hour, we'll go straight to the loaded phone lines that instantly filled when we gave the number out to talk to Barr McClellan, personal lawyer to LBJ, blowing the whistle about the elements in and out of the government assassinating him 40 years ago.

00:19:13.000 Well, just a few days short of 40 years ago.

00:19:17.000 Barr, when I mentioned to you that the military-industrial complex, LL Limitzer, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff, had a terror plan, I have the ABC News, the Baltimore Sun, articles where, and this came out before 9-11, that there was a U.S.

00:19:34.000 government plan to hijack jets and crash them, bomb D.C., commit sniper attacks, blow up ships, blame it on Cuba as a pretext to start World War III.

00:19:42.000 Now that's mainstream news.

00:19:44.000 It says that Lemitzer became enraged at Kennedy.

00:19:46.000 He fired him.

00:19:47.000 Now even Frontline on PBS admits that's why Kennedy wanted to get rid of the CIA, get us out of Vietnam.

00:19:54.000 He'd been a hawk before that, correct me if I'm wrong, And when I mentioned government-sponsored terror, you said that's right.

00:20:02.000 Can you elaborate on your understanding of this, or are you aware of Northwood's?

00:20:06.000 No, I'm not.

00:20:07.000 And one big reason is that some of that evidence is still being withheld.

00:20:11.000 That's one of the key questions that we still have ongoing right now, is we need to get this evidence out.

00:20:16.000 Yesterday at a press conference at the National Press Club, I made another strong call for that.

00:20:20.000 There's a lot of that going on now.

00:20:22.000 But the details are there, and we need to see them.

00:20:26.000 I can't tell you what they are because I haven't seen them.

00:20:28.000 And my different approach here is I knew what was going on back home, back in Austin, Texas, where the national media and the rest of the public didn't really know what was happening.

00:20:39.000 The military and their activities that you just mentioned are not something I'm familiar enough with to comment on.

00:20:45.000 I understand, but in your years of research, have you come upon those links?

00:20:48.000 Because I'm telling you, there's so many documents, there's a lot I haven't seen, a lot of this is public, and I guess you just haven't come across it yet.

00:20:55.000 Well, I know there's a lot out there, but like I say, some of these key ones, like the Special Committee to Advise the President, those records just haven't been disclosed.

00:21:07.000 I'm just telling you, though, that we know that there were arguments that the Joint Chiefs were mad at him.

00:21:12.000 We know that happened.

00:21:13.000 You're saying the particulars of those meetings are still secret.

00:21:16.000 Yes, but we do know that, oh yes, there was this real unhappiness with John Kennedy on the part of the power structure that had been so happy with Dwight Eisenhower.

00:21:25.000 He, John Kennedy, was trying to make peace.

00:21:28.000 He was promoting it in several important ways.

00:21:31.000 The military didn't like it, but the people that really backed the military, these power structures, were opposed to it also.

00:21:41.000 They deal in a very subtle way with life and they know the fundamentals that they want to see there.

00:21:47.000 They don't have to worry so much about Vietnam as they have to worry about being really prepared to fight any fight and being ready to do it.

00:21:56.000 Well, absolutely.

00:21:58.000 I will, during another break, get your mailing address.

00:22:00.000 I'm going to send you Northwoods and ABC and Baltimore Sun, but I have the document, sir, where they wanted Kennedy to blow up ships, blow up planes, and blame it on Cuba.

00:22:10.000 That is now public, sir.

00:22:11.000 Very good.

00:22:13.000 Will that be helpful?

00:22:14.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:14.000 I think this all fits into what I can tell you was going on in this inner sanctum where Johnson and Clark would meet out at the LBJ Ranch in a very secluded place where they could talk.

00:22:26.000 Privately, and not be overheard, not a chance.

00:22:29.000 Unbelievable.

00:22:30.000 This is such an incredible interview, Mr. McClellan.

00:22:32.000 We're so honored to have you.

00:22:33.000 We're going to break here for one minute, come back and go straight to calls, and anytime you want to jump in with an issue or a piece of information, do it, sir.

00:22:42.000 We're going to have you again for another 20 minutes into the next hour.

00:22:46.000 Two more segments, folks, and we'll go straight to your calls, and we get back.

00:22:49.000 Again, the name of the book, sir?

00:22:51.000 The name of the book is Blood, Money, and Power.

00:22:54.000 How LBJ Killed JFK, and I've got to get you one. 0.87

00:22:57.000 Blood, money, and power.

00:22:58.000 I'm told your publicist is sending you one, sir.

00:23:00.000 We'll be right back with the second hour.

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00:23:41.000 We've got answers.

00:23:42.000 We've got Mar McClellan.

00:23:44.000 Personal lawyer to LBJ for many years.

00:23:48.000 Based right here in Austin, Texas.

00:23:50.000 He's up in New York right now.

00:23:53.000 And he has written a new book, and we're going to tell you about that, Blood, Money, and Power, How LBJ Killed JFK.

00:24:01.000 He's got all the evidence.

00:24:02.000 It's all put in a document form.

00:24:06.000 He's presenting a case.

00:24:08.000 He's getting great reviews.

00:24:09.000 And all the eyewitnesses, all the information, how they did it.

00:24:13.000 And this totally jives with all of the mistress and the military people I've had on, and all of it over the years, my ten years on the air.

00:24:26.000 And as promised, we're going to go to your calls now.

00:24:28.000 This is breaking on the History Channel, a three-hour special, The Men Who Killed Kennedy, coming right out with it.

00:24:34.000 It's at the 40th anniversary.

00:24:36.000 It's heartening.

00:24:37.000 But I guess they had to allow some of this to come out because 80 plus percent of Americans believe the government had a hand in killing Kennedy.

00:24:43.000 Are you ready to go to calls, Barr?

00:24:44.000 Calls.

00:24:47.000 Absolutely.

00:24:48.000 Let's go to Ron in Oklahoma.

00:24:50.000 Ron, go ahead.

00:24:51.000 Alex?

00:24:51.000 Yes?

00:24:52.000 I want to thank your guests.

00:24:53.000 I was 17 years old at the time of the Kennedy assassination.

00:24:56.000 I thought this was going to be one of these age-old, endless mysteries.

00:25:01.000 It would never be solved.

00:25:02.000 The mass media, the network, has been covering this up for years.

00:25:06.000 I didn't think we'd ever know the truth.

00:25:09.000 Sunday night, I saw the three segments on the History Channel.

00:25:12.000 They are unbelievable, mind-blowing, and I'm sure the book must be a lot more informative than the History Channel series because you could never put this information all in a TV program or a movie.

00:25:30.000 It is absolutely unbelievable, and I would tell your listeners, they need to see the History Channel series, and they need to get the book if they want to find out what really happened.

00:25:42.000 So you've seen the series, and I just saw it at the TV studio on my own TV show last night, about 10 minutes of it.

00:25:47.000 Everybody's freaking out over it.

00:25:49.000 What does it cover?

00:25:52.000 Alex, it was so long, it was unbelievable.

00:25:54.000 It started out with Oswald's mystery.

00:25:59.000 Who was with him in New Orleans.

00:26:04.000 She covered Oswald's tie-in with the CIA.

00:26:08.000 Oswald's early tie-in with Jack Ruby.

00:26:12.000 How they compounded a cancer virus that was supposedly going to be used against Castro, which I suspect was eventually used on Jack Ruby. 0.57

00:26:22.000 There was an interview later in another part with a He had a doctor who had been a second-year medical student at Parkland Hospital.

00:26:32.000 The day of the assassination, he was actually leaning up against the presidential limousine, talking to some friends, and noticed a bullet hole in the windshield.

00:26:43.000 The bullet hole was from the front to the rear, broken out on the back side, the inside of the car.

00:26:51.000 Let me get some comments from our guest on what you're saying.

00:26:54.000 Well, what he's talking about, of course, is what is on the History Channel.

00:26:57.000 Nigel Turner prepared that.

00:26:58.000 I had a lot of tape on that, and I have not seen it yet.

00:27:02.000 But what he's pulled together is what the research community in Texas and others has known, and we've been able to make this case.

00:27:12.000 And Michael Turner is able to present it, so it's really, I'm sure, really worth watching.

00:27:17.000 Are you going to be in Dallas?

00:27:18.000 There are so many elements involved that you have to look at all of them, like a jury's going to look at a case and just see how it does all fit together.

00:27:25.000 Are you going to be in Dallas on Saturday?

00:27:27.000 No.

00:27:27.000 In fact, my son is getting married, so I'm going to be at a wedding ceremony.

00:27:34.000 Is that your son, the press secretary?

00:27:36.000 That's the one.

00:27:38.000 Wow.

00:27:39.000 Okay.

00:27:39.000 Well, thanks for the call, Ron.

00:27:41.000 We'll come back and go to Barney in Maryland, Ann in Texas, John in Ohio, Scott in West Virginia, and others.

00:27:49.000 Now, we need some West Coast calls.

00:27:50.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:27:51.000 Quick break.

00:27:51.000 Long segment coming up.

00:27:52.000 Final segment with our guest.

00:27:57.000 Callers, be quick.

00:27:58.000 Have a comment or question for our guest.

00:28:00.000 I want to get as many of you in as possible to cover as many angles of this as possible.

00:28:04.000 I'm Alex Jones.

00:28:05.000 The website's InfoWars.com.

00:28:06.000 We're talking to Barr McClellan, personal lawyer to LBJ, exposing the assassination of Kennedy in his new book.

00:28:17.000 This communications radio network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.

00:28:21.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

00:28:26.000 Again, folks, we're talking to the author of a new book who's in the History Channel, The Men Who Killed Kennedy documentary.

00:28:33.000 He's Barb McClellan, son, of course, of the White House Press Secretary.

00:28:36.000 This has gotten international attention in hundreds of major papers.

00:28:39.000 He's written a new book that's now available, Blood, Money, and Power, LBJ Killed JFK.

00:28:46.000 And it was released last month by Hanover House, 464 pages, 24.95.

00:28:49.000 I hope you get it.

00:28:51.000 I'm going to talk to the publisher for my bookstore.

00:28:54.000 I think I want to I think I want to carry that on the website.

00:28:56.000 This is really important.

00:28:58.000 I can't wait to get my complimentary copy.

00:29:01.000 This is amazing.

00:29:01.000 Now, let's go right back to the calls.

00:29:05.000 Barney in Maryland, you're on the air with our guest.

00:29:08.000 Go ahead, Barney.

00:29:09.000 Okay, how you doing?

00:29:10.000 Fine.

00:29:10.000 I wanted to ask Mr. McClellan, if he has ever read the book, A Texan Looks at Lyndon.

00:29:17.000 Indeed I have.

00:29:19.000 Old Jay Everett Haley was on the right track then.

00:29:22.000 No one had the evidence that was going on behind the attorney-client privilege and they couldn't get it.

00:29:27.000 That book laid out what a ruthless man Johnson was.

00:29:31.000 Who wrote the three-part series?

00:29:33.000 I read those about 15 years ago about how even when he was in southwest Texas, As a student, he ran things with bribery and coercion.

00:29:41.000 He was basically the dean there as a student.

00:29:43.000 That was Robert Caro.

00:29:44.000 He's got those three series out.

00:29:46.000 He's coming out with a couple more.

00:29:47.000 He's writing a very good, detailed story of the Johnson career.

00:29:51.000 So, would I be safe to say that Johnson was basically a gangster, an instinctive gangster?

00:29:58.000 It seemed to be.

00:29:58.000 He would have been a juvenile delinquent by today's standards in his growing up years, and he never changed.

00:30:03.000 He remained ruthless to the end.

00:30:06.000 Ruthless till the end.

00:30:08.000 Anything else, Barney?

00:30:10.000 Well, no, I just wanted to say that it'd be good if all those books could be republished.

00:30:16.000 Of course, Mr. Barr probably brought it all up to date.

00:30:20.000 All right, thanks for the call.

00:30:21.000 Well, we know the truth.

00:30:22.000 We know what happened.

00:30:23.000 They killed him.

00:30:24.000 They killed Kennedy. 0.71

00:30:24.000 The government did. 0.71

00:30:25.000 Let's talk to Ann in Texas. 0.97

00:30:27.000 Ann, you're on the air.

00:30:28.000 Go ahead.

00:30:29.000 Yes, I became very curious about Mr. McClellan's book when I read a silly review in the Austin American-Statesman that he was publishing it. 0.93

00:30:36.000 And, of course, they put the book down silly.

00:30:38.000 And I got on the waiting list right away because I have about every book there is about Alice Texas.

00:30:42.000 That's where I spent my childhood.

00:30:45.000 My father, and it was very eerie when I read the chapter about Ballot Box 13, my father was one of the veterans that went there after World War II.

00:30:53.000 They all had become friends over at Seabees when they worked with the Seabees at Rebuilding Pearl Harbor.

00:30:58.000 So when they came back, they settled in Alice and started building.

00:31:02.000 And my father, the chapter, I'm giving authenticity to Mr. McClellan because it is accurate what he says in the book.

00:31:11.000 You're saying you grew up there, you knew about the Good Old Boy Network?

00:31:13.000 We moved there in the late 50s after an attorney who helped these veterans kind of organize.

00:31:20.000 I think his name was Buddy Floyd.

00:31:22.000 And his son was killed in his garage one Christmas.

00:31:26.000 And they felt like that the boy and the father looked so much alike that when the boy came in late that night the assassin got him mixed up.

00:31:33.000 For those that don't know inside Texas politics, sir, would you like to comment on what he's saying?

00:31:39.000 And what Ann is saying is right.

00:31:40.000 There were several veterans that went to Alice and they were a real thorn in Johnson's side.

00:31:45.000 They were heroic and more than one of them was killed.

00:31:49.000 For those that don't know why, why were they heroic?

00:31:51.000 What happened?

00:31:51.000 They went in to fight the corruption that George Parr, a close friend of Lyndon Johnson's, was running down in South Texas at the time.

00:31:59.000 They were fighting just boss hog oppression. 0.86

00:32:01.000 They really wanted to clean up the political system, and then they get stuck in the middle of the 1948 election that Lyndon Johnson steals by voting 202 dead people after the election was over.

00:32:12.000 And that's now admitted.

00:32:14.000 Oh, that's generally known, and what I have brought to the whole story here is that Don Thomas was the man who went down and voted the 202 dead men.

00:32:22.000 And then people that stood up against the corruption got blasted.

00:32:25.000 And they did indeed, and what Ann was talking about, Her parents were brave people doing what they did, and there were killings.

00:32:34.000 There were killings.

00:32:35.000 Okay, Ann, thank you.

00:32:38.000 She's impressed with the book, and she lived it.

00:32:40.000 John in Ohio.

00:32:41.000 John, you're on the air.

00:32:42.000 Go ahead.

00:32:43.000 Yes, there's a key individual, Ronald Fletcher Prouty, who wrote the book Secret Team, and he was the chief liaison officer between military intelligence and the CIA.

00:32:55.000 And he says that the CIA did kill Kennedy for all the reasons you mentioned, that he was going to leave Vietnam, he was going to normalize relations with Cuba, he was going to destroy the CIA in his own words, he said he was going to... A thousand pieces.

00:33:09.000 Yes, and send it to the wind.

00:33:11.000 Uh, an interesting thing, but an interesting treatment that he got.

00:33:15.000 He was the Mr. X, incidentally, in the JFK movie by Oliver Stone.

00:33:21.000 I've talked to Novel Stone, all of them.

00:33:24.000 Go ahead.

00:33:24.000 Right.

00:33:25.000 When he was set up on the Jim Bohannon, on that wretched Jim Bohannon program, Let's get a comment from our guest about Fletcher Brody.

00:33:35.000 One more point if I may.

00:33:36.000 she was uh... uh... well-mannered turned into his usual fluttery that's your dimensional to them and then uh... center them

00:33:43.000 cut them off program was going to comment on what i have to know what your party

00:33:47.000 what one more one more point of primary

00:33:49.000 the uh... the the role of the media uh... in this i think is really shown by

00:33:54.000 uh...

00:33:54.000 the fact that one of the major researchers mark lane dot is c i a

00:33:59.000 uh... freedom information act uh... dot c a highly uh...

00:34:02.000 center but it said that the uh... chief

00:34:05.000 John, what John is saying is accurate.

00:34:06.000 There's still this cover-up going on.

00:34:07.000 I'm having trouble getting the book out.

00:34:09.000 of their agents and assets throughout the media, the New York Times, Washington Post,

00:34:13.000 the networks to fear.

00:34:14.000 I've got to let you go.

00:34:15.000 Come here.

00:34:16.000 I've got to let you go.

00:34:17.000 Comments, Mr. McClellan.

00:34:18.000 What John is saying is accurate.

00:34:21.000 There's still this cover-up going on.

00:34:22.000 I'm having trouble getting the book out.

00:34:24.000 We're running into censorship here and there.

00:34:26.000 Some suggesting don't buy the book.

00:34:28.000 I say the quick answer to it is get the book and find out what's going on.

00:34:31.000 It's still happening.

00:34:32.000 Well, look, there's too many good men and women that are willing to stand up like you've done, Mr. McClellan.

00:34:37.000 And again, look at the polls.

00:34:39.000 Eighty-plus percent know there's a cover-up, know the government was involved.

00:34:42.000 So again, this is a good case point example that if we just keep exposing evil, that finally it will be brought down.

00:34:49.000 But it is awful hard.

00:34:50.000 The New York Times today is carrying a big article about all those shows that are going on, and they all say there was a lone nut.

00:34:56.000 And you just can't fool most of the people, you know, most of the time.

00:35:00.000 And that's what they're trying to do.

00:35:01.000 And it's not working.

00:35:02.000 Eighty percent say they're dead wrong.

00:35:05.000 And yet they pass it off as the only truth there is.

00:35:07.000 Well, now with this History Channel special in your book, it's going to be 90 percent, I predict.

00:35:12.000 I mean, they can keep their lies going.

00:35:13.000 It's not going to work.

00:35:14.000 They're losing all credibility.

00:35:16.000 Scott in West Virginia, you're on the air.

00:35:17.000 Go ahead.

00:35:20.000 Go ahead, Scott.

00:35:22.000 Thank you both gentlemen.

00:35:23.000 An observation and a question.

00:35:25.000 I think that all the reasons for his killing are true, but if we look at it bigger, they've called it a military coup.

00:35:32.000 But I think Kennedy, what they were really afraid of, was a real president with the people behind them.

00:35:38.000 Yeah, he was getting rid of the Federal Reserve notes.

00:35:40.000 Correct.

00:35:40.000 And they would have lost the takeover that started in the 30s.

00:35:44.000 So it wasn't a coup in the 60s, it was reinforcing the... It was a counter-revolution.

00:35:49.000 Correct.

00:35:50.000 My question is, I've seen several pictures with George Bush Sr.

00:35:54.000 looking like he was in Dallas with Johnson nearby.

00:35:56.000 And I was wondering what George Bush Sr.' 's role in this is.

00:35:59.000 Well, we know he was a gofer for the big oil men.

00:36:01.000 We know he was already CIA at that time.

00:36:03.000 They had Cuban operations named after his wife.

00:36:06.000 Comment, Scott.

00:36:10.000 I have not seen anything of George Bush in this.

00:36:13.000 What I have seen is that he did start a two-party system in Texas that was really important.

00:36:18.000 But I can't comment on that.

00:36:19.000 I don't have any good information.

00:36:21.000 Yeah, I don't expect you to.

00:36:22.000 I've seen photos the day of the, supposedly the day of the execution, where Bush was standing behind Johnson and to his left in the photo, and he had such a smug grin on his face.

00:36:34.000 Okay, Scott, I really appreciate that call.

00:36:38.000 Let's talk to Brad in Illinois.

00:36:40.000 Brad, you're on the air.

00:36:41.000 Go ahead.

00:36:42.000 Yeah, Alex, I want to thank you so much for having Barr on your show.

00:36:46.000 I saw him on the Jesse Ventura Show a while back.

00:36:49.000 I'm going to get your book.

00:36:51.000 And I've just been enthralled in this since the day I saw Oswald get killed by Jack Ruby on live TV that morning with my father.

00:36:59.000 My dad telling me that Johnson did it.

00:37:01.000 I just couldn't believe it and now it seems like it's coming true.

00:37:04.000 Yeah, your daddy knew.

00:37:05.000 That's a good question.

00:37:07.000 The killing of Oswald, any key info on that for us, sir?

00:37:11.000 Yeah, the main thing is that Ruby had the connections there and he was brought in to do just what he did.

00:37:16.000 They had to silence Oswald.

00:37:18.000 He was what he said he was.

00:37:20.000 I think so.

00:37:20.000 and he'd been abandoned really on the sixth floor.

00:37:23.000 How would that get Ruby to do that to his wife? 1.00

00:37:25.000 Did he already know he had cancer or why did he do that?

00:37:27.000 No, the cancer seems to develop later.

00:37:29.000 I wish I had better information on that to say with more assurance,

00:37:32.000 but he was available and he was put to good use.

00:37:35.000 And we know what happened, and it's in the book where Clark, one of his best friends, Joe Tonahill, is named Ruby's

00:37:43.000 lawyer, and they tell Tonahill, the lawyer, to make sure Ruby doesn't 1.00

00:37:47.000 talk.

00:37:48.000 You know, watching that film of Jack Ruby killing him, the police obviously were ready for it.

00:37:53.000 They brace him, they hold him up.

00:37:55.000 I mean, that was an execution.

00:37:56.000 I mean, your take on it?

00:37:58.000 Well, I can't really tell you for sure on that.

00:38:01.000 My main inquiry was to put together the good, hard facts on what happened on the sixth floor, but what you're saying is certainly possible, and I sure don't rule it out.

00:38:11.000 Yep.

00:38:12.000 Yep.

00:38:13.000 Did you ever research or look at the book High Treason?

00:38:16.000 Yes, I did.

00:38:17.000 Yeah, that book, I got that and that really got me going.

00:38:20.000 And the last question, I'll get out of here.

00:38:23.000 What is your take on the book that came out in 1996 by this truck driver, Ray Tex Brown,

00:38:28.000 where he is called Broken Silence, where he basically says in his book also that it was

00:38:33.000 Lyndon Baines Johnson that called him up on a pay phone and told him to not remember any

00:38:40.000 of his dealings with training Ruby and Oswald and the others in the shooting range.

00:38:47.000 Brad, I'm sorry, I have not seen that book.

00:38:49.000 I have heard about a lot of them, but that one I missed.

00:38:52.000 You're saying one thing is right, and that was everybody knew LBJ was behind it.

00:38:56.000 That's what I'm hearing from everyone, and I'm able to show you how.

00:38:59.000 Is your book going to finally do something?

00:39:01.000 Is it going to finally bring this out?

00:39:05.000 My big hope, of course, is that it will.

00:39:07.000 We've got to get some more records.

00:39:09.000 I'm angling to set up a forum to have this really discussed.

00:39:13.000 We know where the evidence is.

00:39:15.000 We just need it produced, and what I can tell you is there.

00:39:18.000 Show it to us.

00:39:19.000 Thank you, Brad.

00:39:21.000 It really seems like the dam is breaking.

00:39:24.000 I wanted to talk about the press conference yesterday, how that went.

00:39:28.000 I know you probably need to leave.

00:39:30.000 Can you do five more minutes with us?

00:39:31.000 Sure, sure.

00:39:32.000 Okay, great.

00:39:33.000 We're going to have a quick little break here.

00:39:34.000 We'll come back.

00:39:35.000 It's a short little five minute segment.

00:39:37.000 We'll talk about the press conference and as the media Some of the media seems to be telling the truth, others seem the same old, you know, ha ha ha, it was a loan nut, anybody that doesn't think that's crazy, I want to talk about that in our little final bonus segment with our guest and maybe jam one or two calls in if we have time.

00:39:54.000 Bar McClellan is our guest in the book that I suggest all of you get, Blood, Money, and Power, How LBJ Killed JFK, and released last month by Hanover House, 464 pages.

00:40:07.000 The bookstore's near you, or if it isn't, demand it.

00:40:09.000 We'll be back.

00:40:10.000 The website's n4wars.com.

00:40:12.000 Our final segment with our guest when we get back.

00:40:17.000 Hello folks.

00:40:19.000 . . .

00:40:35.000 All right, my friends, we're talking to Bar McClellan, judge's personal attorney.

00:40:41.000 He's written a new book about, well, blood, money, and power.

00:40:45.000 How LBJ Killed JFK.

00:40:48.000 And the dam has broken on this story, as it will on all the other examples of government crime, if people are willing to stand up.

00:40:56.000 I know we have loaded phones, we only have time for a few of these, but I wanted to No, I haven't, and it's been surprising that nothing at all has come out of them.

00:41:02.000 The book's been out a while, and also they've known what I've been saying since 98 for sure, and probably 84.

00:41:07.000 her little mafia here in austin about what she thinks about your book

00:41:10.000 no i haven't and that's been surprising that nothing at all has come out of them

00:41:14.000 the books that while and also they've known what i've been playing since

00:41:17.000 ninety eight for sure and uh... probably eighty four that quiet

00:41:23.000 but here from can't get a talk up

00:41:26.000 Well, he can listen out on the FM out there in Radio Free Fredericksburg right by her little ranch.

00:41:33.000 So, we want to say hi to her.

00:41:36.000 Interesting lady. 1.00

00:41:37.000 A great match for LBJ, let me tell you, from what I know about her. 1.00

00:41:42.000 What about the press conference?

00:41:43.000 How did that go?

00:41:43.000 It went real well.

00:41:44.000 We had good attendance.

00:41:45.000 A lot of the foreign press was there, and we're getting a real interest over there where they understand from their own experience how this can happen.

00:41:53.000 Over here, the accepted wisdom is we just don't have a banana republic.

00:41:58.000 We're a strong democracy.

00:41:59.000 In fact, we have exactly that from what happened back in 1963 and we need to face up to it and do something about it.

00:42:07.000 We have a banana republic, not a free society.

00:42:10.000 That was what it was back in 1963.

00:42:12.000 I know that for sure.

00:42:13.000 I can't tell you now because to know these things you have to be, what I said earlier, a super lawyer.

00:42:18.000 A guy really on top.

00:42:19.000 A guy like Ed Clark could be and you can see it all then.

00:42:24.000 Let's take a couple calls real quick.

00:42:27.000 How was the press responding to you during the press conference?

00:42:29.000 Oh, very good.

00:42:31.000 I was shocked when I finished up.

00:42:32.000 I went for about an hour.

00:42:33.000 I got applause from them.

00:42:35.000 Wow.

00:42:35.000 It's going to be on C-SPAN, too, over the weekend.

00:42:38.000 Oh, please, folks, take that and send it to me.

00:42:41.000 John in Colorado.

00:42:42.000 Go ahead, real quick.

00:42:43.000 Yes, very quick.

00:42:44.000 Can you hear me?

00:42:45.000 Yes.

00:42:46.000 Very, very quickly.

00:42:47.000 The reason why I called, I believe, partly for the reason why John F. Kennedy was murdered, Is for the same reason that Abraham Lincoln was murdered.

00:42:56.000 Partly.

00:42:57.000 And that is, they both were involved with currencies.

00:43:01.000 Lincoln with the Greenback, and Kennedy with the U.S.

00:43:04.000 Treasury note.

00:43:05.000 Well, he reissued the Greenback.

00:43:07.000 He was going to issue $45 billion, he issued $5 billion, little $5 dollar bills.

00:43:11.000 Nowhere on it does it say, Federal Reserve Note.

00:43:14.000 Right.

00:43:14.000 Any comments to that?

00:43:15.000 Thanks for the call, John.

00:43:16.000 Any comments?

00:43:17.000 The power structure likes it the old way, and they don't like change, and they do a lot to make sure that things don't change.

00:43:23.000 They're very happy in their world.

00:43:25.000 Mike in Arizona, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:43:30.000 Mike, go ahead.

00:43:32.000 How do you, Mr. McClellan, how do you reconcile, and I'm not saying there's any distinction because I haven't read your book yet, your findings with Gregory Douglas, who wrote the Regicide, who basically pointed out He was basically using the records of a deceased head of covert operations for the CIA who indicated that Kennedy had been leaking

00:44:00.000 secret documents to uh... to the soviet union both perhaps uh... kennedy and his brother robert kennedy told the soviets you better back off because the military may get rid of me and go to war with you we know he did that uh... mister mcclellan yeah mike and mike's uh... looking into uh... what's really at the heart of this thing and you gotta see it from where i could see it and that was from the deep inside from behind the lawyer client privilege and what i'm telling you is how it all came together at the very top The top of the power structure said it's okay for John Kennedy to go.

00:44:35.000 He's causing too much trouble for us.

00:44:37.000 All right.

00:44:37.000 Thank you, Mike.

00:44:39.000 Joe in Montana, go ahead.

00:44:40.000 You're on the air.

00:44:41.000 Last caller for our guest.

00:44:42.000 Hello, Alex and Barb.

00:44:44.000 I've been watching that History Channel thing and saw your segment on it, or at least one of them.

00:44:49.000 It was very impressive.

00:44:51.000 And they are using your voice, as I think, to do some of their promos on the series.

00:44:58.000 I think that it's very good this is coming out, but I think that my concern is that it can't be allowed to stop here.

00:45:06.000 And you've alluded to the fact that the power structures are there, and I'm convinced, I think we all know that they're still there.

00:45:14.000 Absolutely.

00:45:15.000 have different people gather more powerful and more out of control now

00:45:18.000 they were forty years ago absolutely and and i think uh...

00:45:22.000 bar that we'd need to find a way and perhaps you could be interested in helping

00:45:27.000 contribute to that to bring it up today

00:45:30.000 and to tear the cover off of these uh... power structures and power centers that

00:45:35.000 Okay, that's it.

00:45:36.000 I want to get his comment on that.

00:45:37.000 Thank you.

00:45:38.000 And in the book, my last chapter is devoted to the reforms we need to cure just what you're talking about.

00:45:43.000 And there are some big steps that can be taken.

00:45:45.000 And we can do them and become that powerful democracy and that great people that we really are.

00:45:50.000 We need to get our constitutional republic back.

00:45:53.000 And I appreciate you having the courage to do this.

00:45:57.000 I really appreciate you coming on the show.

00:45:59.000 Barr McClellan and the new book, Blood, Money and Power.

00:46:04.000 Can we get you back up on the show in the near future?

00:46:06.000 Alex, you've got a great show.

00:46:08.000 Let's see what happens in the next week or so and do it again.

00:46:11.000 Thank you.

00:46:12.000 Thank you.

00:46:12.000 Take care.

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00:54:29.000 I thank Yahweh for using me as a vessel, as I have prayed so many times, to help use me as a tool, to shape me, to craft me, to focus me, and I pray God do that in your life.

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00:54:46.000 Amen.

00:54:47.000 Alright, let's take some calls.

00:54:50.000 Let's go ahead and talk to George in Texas.

00:54:53.000 George, you're on the air.

00:54:53.000 Go ahead.

00:54:54.000 Can you hear me, Alex?

00:54:55.000 Yes, I can.

00:54:57.000 Very good.

00:54:57.000 Thank you for having your guest on.

00:55:00.000 I have two quick points.

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