Alex Jones Show - 20031126_Schindler_Alex

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00:00:23.000 Coming up, folks, on the show today, here in the third hour, World AIDS deaths, infections at new heights, and the global government is behind that, my friends.

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00:00:48.000 For those that just joined us or are tuning in for the first time, you'd have to be hiding under a rock to not have heard about the Terri Schindler Shivo case.

00:00:57.000 She's a lady who's not in a coma, not in a vegetative state, who could have been rehabilitated according to her own doctors.

00:01:05.000 Her husband, who's since common law married and has children with another woman, has not allowed her to have the medical settlement, has not allowed her to have any rehabilitation.

00:01:16.000 They then pulled their feeding tube for what, seven plus days, which would kill most people.

00:01:24.000 The legislature moved and passed a law so the governor could have the tube reinserted.

00:01:29.000 Now it's in the courts.

00:01:31.000 And the whole pro-death, euthanasia crowd has shown up in mass trying to push through legislation and court cases, fighting on multiple fronts to kill Terry.

00:01:44.000 But this case isn't about Terry and Terry's fight.

00:01:46.000 Terrysfight.org has video clips and a lot of the news stories there.

00:01:51.000 It's not just about her.

00:01:52.000 I mean, we've had Wall Street Journal writer Wesley Smith on, listing the names of people in Florida, among other states, where they beg for food and water, but the bioethics boards say, well, we're not going to allow you to have food and water, and they kill you.

00:02:04.000 This is on the record.

00:02:05.000 People who are talking.

00:02:07.000 Very dangerous precedent that's being set.

00:02:15.000 I want to go ahead and bring Bob Schindler, father of Terry on the show, to give us the latest developments.

00:02:22.000 Bob, thanks for coming on.

00:02:23.000 Thank you for having me.

00:02:26.000 For folks that don't know about this case, can you just recap in the next two minutes for them, then we'll come back and give them the latest developments.

00:02:35.000 Well, essentially what's happening, you pretty much described it.

00:02:40.000 My daughter was displayed to the court as being in a persistent vegetative state.

00:02:48.000 Can you talk right into your telephone for me please?

00:02:51.000 Yeah, I said my daughter was portrayed to the court as being in a persistent vegetative state and the court was also told that Terry orally made an end-of-life death wish and from that she was Essentially found, I guess, guilty by the court and ordered to be executed.

00:03:20.000 Ordered to be executed by dehydration, one of the most painful deaths known by medical science on the record.

00:03:27.000 You can't kill an axe murderer like this, but you can kill somebody's daughter like this, a human being.

00:03:32.000 You know, it's really tragic what's happening in Florida and the courts now have lined up against the Governor and the legislature, because they had passed this law, it's called Harry's Law, to prevent her starvation.

00:03:53.000 And of course feel that the government is now intervening in an area where they don't belong, essentially.

00:04:00.000 So you've got yourself a real good dogfight going on here, and it's turned political as well.

00:04:07.000 And that's the sorry part about where Terry's kind of got lost in the shuffle.

00:04:10.000 And you've got rock bands showing up who are going to have live suicides on stage.

00:04:15.000 They think it's all great.

00:04:16.000 You've got the band Hell on Earth.

00:04:18.000 You've got the Hemlock Society running around.

00:04:21.000 I mean, it is a disgusting spectacle.

00:04:23.000 But we have forced the news to stop saying she's in a coma.

00:04:27.000 That at least is good.

00:04:28.000 Well, yeah, finally, and that happened because of the videos that we got out there that prove that Perry is not in any type of coma or persistent vegetative state.

00:04:41.000 The other thing that we're trying to convey to people is her wishes.

00:04:44.000 There were no such wishes.

00:04:46.000 It was all hearsay coming from her husband.

00:04:50.000 And members of his family... Stay there, Bob.

00:04:53.000 We'll get into some of the new reports that have come out.

00:04:56.000 And we'll take calls as well.

00:04:57.000 Stay with us.

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00:05:14.000 Folks, all over Western Europe, Northern Europe, and England, they're now killing people who don't even want to be killed.

00:05:22.000 Here in the United States, believe it or not, and in the Wall Street Journal and other major publications, if somebody has said that they do not want to be resuscitated, or do not want medical care, then the bioethics board will take over later when they're paralyzed neck down, begging audibly, may I please have food, may I please have water, There are hundreds of people whose names we know they have killed who are begging for food and water.

00:05:50.000 They are setting the precedent to get rid of the old of the infirm. 1.00

00:05:54.000 The news tried to basically lie about Perry Schiavo and say that she was in a coma.

00:05:58.000 Then the video showed her following the balloon, smiling, trying to sit up.

00:06:04.000 Uh, her doctors, going back over many years, said that she could have been rehabilitated.

00:06:08.000 A few years ago, she was able to even eat food, but then all rehabilitation was denied to her.

00:06:13.000 Her estranged husband, who has children and is, uh, has a common-law marriage, uh, told people that he wanted to take care of her.

00:06:20.000 Oh, just sign rights over to me.

00:06:22.000 The family believed him and did it.

00:06:24.000 And we have Bob Schindler, the father of Terry Chabot.

00:06:28.000 And of course, this was a national case.

00:06:30.000 It's still big headlines.

00:06:32.000 We were covering it long before it was big news.

00:06:35.000 The governor, after seven days of her being denied water and food in her feeding tube, Uh, the legislature moved and passed Terry's law allowing him to block it.

00:06:45.000 He didn't even need that law to begin with, folks.

00:06:47.000 Now the courts are moving to remove the feeding tube again. 0.74

00:06:50.000 If you'd like to talk to Bob Schindler, have any questions or comments, you've called here asking me questions about it.

00:06:55.000 If you'd like to talk to him, the toll-free number is 1-800-259-9231.

00:06:58.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:07:00.000 Here's Bob Schindler, an expert on the case, the father of this young lady, who has been in a living hell, not being given treatment when she has infections.

00:07:15.000 Michael Schiavo refuses to give her care, refuses to release the million-plus dollars they got in a settlement to her.

00:07:25.000 Uh, the original medical report showed that she had trauma, uh, when she came into the hospital, broken bones, though they claimed it was a heart attack.

00:07:32.000 Uh, again, joining us is Bob Schindler.

00:07:34.000 Uh, Bob, there's an article here out of the Palm Beach Post today, Bush too late on Schiavo.

00:07:39.000 The case of Terry Schiavo, Governor Bush continues to put the state where it does not belong and continues to show that his intervention is more about politics than Miss Schiavo's welfare.

00:07:49.000 And it's a disgusting article saying, oh, it's doing her a favor to get rid of her. 1.00

00:07:56.000 Your comments, sir.

00:07:58.000 Well, that all goes along with what I mentioned before, that this is termed political.

00:08:05.000 And the other part of it is you have the people who are advocating illegal euthanasia in the state of Florida.

00:08:15.000 And Harry's case is really the trial balloon.

00:08:18.000 Bob, I hate to keep having to stop you.

00:08:20.000 Put the phone right up to your mouth for me, please.

00:08:22.000 Yes.

00:08:22.000 Can you hear better now?

00:08:23.000 Yes, I can.

00:08:24.000 Go ahead.

00:08:25.000 Harry's case is like the trial balloon, and all these different organizations that are advocates of euthanasia have banded together to try and get the state to legalize that, and it's just a suicide.

00:08:44.000 Well, the government of the state, which is Governor Bush, they recognize, I believe, what's happening, and they're doing their darndest to offset these efforts.

00:08:56.000 But it's just a tragic thing that what's happened to Terry over the years is tragic, and it just continues, it seems, every day.

00:09:07.000 Bob Schindler, a father of Terry Schiavo, where is the case right now?

00:09:11.000 What's going on in the courts?

00:09:13.000 Well, in the circuit court, there's a Judge Baird, his name is, in the 6th District Circuit Court, who is going to hear the Terry's law, and already came out and said beforehand that he believes it's unconstitutional, and that will happen sometime in the near future.

00:09:39.000 He'll make that declaration.

00:09:41.000 And hopefully we'll have an opportunity, or the governor's people will have an opportunity to appeal that in the appellate court.

00:09:50.000 But the attorney for Schiavo is asking that the court make this ruling without any hearings and just declare it unconstitutional and remove Tyrese Feedington.

00:10:04.000 That's what they'd like to see happen.

00:10:06.000 Now, there have been some rulings.

00:10:09.000 Where is it in the process?

00:10:10.000 How long until they rule and then possibly pull her feeding tube? 1.00

00:10:15.000 Well, see, this judge could rule, we thought, almost any day, this Judge Baird.

00:10:22.000 And hopefully we will, the Governor's people will have an opportunity to appeal that in the appellate court, but what they're trying to do is to waive the appeal process. 0.87

00:10:36.000 Boy, this is ludicrous.

00:10:37.000 Now, there's been a lot of bizarre activity here.

00:10:41.000 Michael Shivo, the husband, brought your daughter in to the hospital, and now the medical reports have come out she had broken bones.

00:10:51.000 They then said it was a heart attack from a mineral deficiency.

00:10:58.000 And he came in and got you guys to sign over custody to him so he could, quote, streamline things.

00:11:05.000 Then they had a malpractice suit and won over a million dollars.

00:11:12.000 And he went to school to, quote, be a nurse because he wanted to take care of her for the rest of his life.

00:11:17.000 Then he denied the most basic care.

00:11:19.000 This is so important.

00:11:21.000 This is on the record.

00:11:22.000 He refused Uh, to allow her to have any type of therapy, though they were already feeding her, she was being rehabilitated, she was eating, folks, in her mouth, eating jello, eating food.

00:11:32.000 This is on the record.

00:11:34.000 Now there's this new disgusting twist in the media.

00:11:36.000 Here it is out of this editorial without a signature to it, as usual, by the Palm Beach Post.

00:11:42.000 So this is the feeling of the paper.

00:11:44.000 A report in the St.

00:11:45.000 Petersburg Times suggested that Terry Shiloh's parents, Mary and Bob Schindler, split with her son-in-law because they wanted ten thousand

00:11:52.000 dollars from the three hundred thousand that went to him

00:11:55.000 with a malpractice award the daughter's case another seven hundred thousand is gone

00:12:00.000 her care very shadows not not life and exploration

00:12:05.000 uh... linger exploitation linger on i mean you talk about uh... uh...

00:12:13.000 bad behavior that's that's michael covered this case i've reached our research and i've read

00:12:18.000 hundreds of articles on it and uh... you guys have the doctors and others on your side

00:12:24.000 and uh... what what i mean uh... you might want to investigate legal action

00:12:28.000 Petersburg Times.

00:12:30.000 Well, what they're doing is, they're putting a spin on this thing to take the attention away from, you know, the husband and Terry.

00:12:39.000 There's evidence that is surfacing almost daily that indicates that he was responsible for Terry's collapse and hopefully that at some point in time he'll be prosecuted for that.

00:12:53.000 Now, sir, according to the Associated Press, you've spent your entire retirement, hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers.

00:13:00.000 You love your daughter.

00:13:00.000 You're there, you know, all the time.

00:13:03.000 You've got Catholic priests that come and try to visit her all the time. 0.89

00:13:06.000 A lot of times, Michael won't let them come in, and then they refuse last rites when they have the feeding tube pulled a month ago.

00:13:14.000 And imagine the nerve of them trying to say, you wanted $10,000 and that's why you split with Michael.

00:13:21.000 Why did you really split with Michael?

00:13:22.000 Well, it was strictly for Terry's care.

00:13:26.000 Just prior to the malpractice, he had made commitments that he was going to do certain things for Terry to get her rehabilitated.

00:13:35.000 And as soon as that money came in, he actually reneged on everything and attempted to end her life by not treating her for An infection.

00:13:44.000 He had a urinary tract infection, and he gave orders not to treat her for that.

00:13:51.000 And also, for ten years, hasn't allowed her teeth to be brushed.

00:13:55.000 Well, he's done absolutely nothing for her.

00:13:57.000 She's been in a warehouse, in nursing homes, and so for the last three, four years, they put her in a hospice because we don't belong in there.

00:14:07.000 And in there, all she's getting is just, she's being bathed and kept No claim by the caretakers, but she's limited to visitation.

00:14:19.000 She's isolated from the public, hasn't been outside for almost three years.

00:14:23.000 And she's in a 10 by 12 room.

00:14:26.000 And there's police now that have been there for a month and a half in front of her room.

00:14:30.000 There's police outside of the hospital facility.

00:14:34.000 And we have to get clearance to go in to the police.

00:14:38.000 So any day now the judge could say pull the feeding tube.

00:14:42.000 Have you heard from the governor what he will do to counter that or if anything?

00:14:46.000 I don't know other than the fact that from what I'm reading is that they have filed objections to what this judge is doing.

00:14:57.000 They tried to have him removed from the case and also the venue to have that transferred up into the county where the governor resides.

00:15:08.000 But it just, it appears from this end of it that these courts are doing as they please.

00:15:15.000 And they're just, you know, they're on the bench and they're rewriting the laws.

00:15:21.000 And they're just uncontrolled.

00:15:28.000 What is Michael Schiavo doing?

00:15:29.000 I know he was on Larry King Live.

00:15:32.000 What's he been up to now?

00:15:34.000 Well, we really don't know.

00:15:35.000 We don't see him.

00:15:37.000 We visit Terry almost on a daily basis and we haven't seen him in quite some time.

00:15:44.000 He has his mistress and he has two children by the mistress and he's really going along with his life.

00:15:52.000 He keeps claiming that Well, I'll tell you what, Bob, we're going to break and if folks want to respond to this or have any questions or comments for you, it's 1-800-259-9231.

00:16:02.000 The Schindler case, folks want to know where it was right now.

00:16:11.000 And they could pull her tube any time, folks.

00:16:14.000 And then we'll have to sit there and watch her start dying again. 1.00

00:16:17.000 A lot of people die after five, six days.

00:16:19.000 She survived, what, seven plus days with no water.

00:16:24.000 That was amazing in and of itself, wasn't it, Bob?

00:16:27.000 Yeah, that's the second time now that they've stopped their feeding.

00:16:30.000 Because it was stopped in 2001, in April.

00:16:35.000 Well, I want to talk about Terri's condition, too, when we get back, Bob, and take some calls, you know, when you're with her, how she's doing.

00:16:44.000 And if you want to see video clips of her, this person's puzzling in a comma, and now admit that's not true in the media, go to terrisfight.org or it's on prisonplanet.com as well.

00:16:54.000 We've got all the clips right there as well for you.

00:16:57.000 We'll be right back, folks.

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00:17:02.000 Welcome back, folks.

00:17:30.000 Coming up, I've got news on the Second Amendment, news on the economy, the war on, well, free countries that's going on under the guise of war on terror, what's happening with AIDS in Africa, a very serious issue.

00:17:42.000 We're talking to Bob Schindler.

00:17:46.000 We'll watch this case through to the end.

00:17:48.000 I hope that they'll allow her to have rehabilitation and to be taken care of.

00:17:52.000 But we are an aging population.

00:17:56.000 And they're trying to set the precedent to kill whoever they want, whenever they want.

00:18:01.000 Bob Schindler, let's take some calls.

00:18:04.000 Let's talk to Rodney in Texas.

00:18:06.000 Rodney, you're on the air.

00:18:07.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:18:08.000 Yes, thank you for taking my call today, Alex, and also Mr. Schindler.

00:18:14.000 First of all, I want to start off by saying that I've been praying for God to extend a special portion of His Holy Spirit out to your daughter.

00:18:24.000 And the family so that they can remain strong, because it's been a very, very trying situation.

00:18:31.000 And I just want to say that, before I ask you about a comment I heard you make earlier, I was interested in a statement you made earlier.

00:18:43.000 You said that a number of groups had banded together in opposition to keeping Terry alive.

00:18:55.000 And I read that the ACLU was one of those groups.

00:19:01.000 And Alex, I wanted you to elaborate on this.

00:19:05.000 Recently, wasn't the ACLU one of the groups who protested the human rights violations down there in Miami?

00:19:14.000 And would you also like to comment on whether or not you think that that agency is kind of two-faced?

00:19:22.000 Well, what the ACLU does is they pick up some good things like the Patriot Act, they write the resolutions so they're weak, they go out and create bad case law, they defend rights that don't exist, and they will say it's a human right to be killed by the government, and so the ACLU overall is full of good people, but at the top it's very, very bad.

00:19:46.000 I mean, I had the local ACLU head Ruth Epstein walked up to me at the Patriot Act meeting, and she means well, she's a useful idiot, and she said, well I agree with you on the Bill of Rights except for the Second Amendment, it's not an individual right. 0.61

00:20:00.000 And I got into an argument with her, I just said, oh forget it! 1.00

00:20:03.000 So a lot of them are just useful idiot liberals, and they think, oh, right to die. 1.00

00:20:07.000 It's not right to die. 1.00

00:20:08.000 It's the right for the government to call somebody a vegetable that isn't a vegetable.

00:20:13.000 Bob Schindler, comments on the ACLU.

00:20:15.000 Well, we were surprised that they actually came in support of Terry Poston.

00:20:23.000 We thought they would be coming in support of Terry.

00:20:26.000 And nevertheless, I mentioned organizations.

00:20:30.000 You have the Hemlock Organization as well.

00:20:33.000 That more than likely is funding a lot of the expenses that they're incurring, or adversaries are incurring.

00:20:40.000 And I also, in my opinion, and I say it's my opinion, that this is termed political, you have your newspapers who are anti-Bush, and they're coming out now, forgetting the consequences of what can happen to Terry, but they're opposing Bush.

00:21:00.000 And see, that's the problem with the leftists.

00:21:02.000 They're opposed to the Bushes for all the wrong reasons.

00:21:05.000 And if Bill Clinton was doing something that was wrong, they'd be all for it. 1.00

00:21:07.000 So, they're a bunch of political whores. 1.00

00:21:10.000 Thanks for the call, Rodney. 0.99

00:21:11.000 And, you know, you mentioned Bill Clinton.

00:21:12.000 If you recall, Bill Clinton's philosophy was to accuse the accuser.

00:21:18.000 Whenever he got himself in trouble, the person that bore witness to that was always vilified.

00:21:25.000 And that's the same thing that's happening to us now through some of the media.

00:21:30.000 They're attacking our family.

00:21:32.000 We're insane for what we're doing.

00:21:39.000 Let's make another call.

00:21:42.000 It's despicable.

00:21:44.000 John in New York.

00:21:45.000 John, you're on the air.

00:21:46.000 Go ahead.

00:21:47.000 Yeah, I have a couple comments.

00:21:49.000 One is, if you go and you sign a contract, you usually have within 72 hours to rescind your signature.

00:21:56.000 That's the law.

00:21:58.000 Also, if they've committed a fraud or somebody fraudulently coerced you into signing a contract, you have a right to break their contract.

00:22:08.000 Clearly, Michael Schiavo has been derelict in his duty as her guardian.

00:22:14.000 Clearly, he held out false reasons for all of this.

00:22:18.000 Clearly, he should lose his guardianship.

00:22:20.000 How does that happen, Bob Schindler?

00:22:22.000 Well, it doesn't.

00:22:23.000 Well, it should happen.

00:22:24.000 But the particular judge that we're in front of has, I think, denied, we tried to remove him I think four times as guardian, and the judge continues to deny that.

00:22:36.000 And there's no way to appeal that?

00:22:40.000 We haven't appealed that I don't believe in the appellate court.

00:22:43.000 Uh, but I know through this one particular judge... Well, maybe you need to appeal it on up the ladder.

00:22:48.000 Yeah, I'm not sure of that.

00:22:50.000 I'll tell you what, we'll come back and take a couple more calls from Bob Schindler, then I'll shift gears into other important news as well.

00:22:56.000 This affects us all, folks.

00:22:58.000 They're setting a precedent to kill us.

00:23:03.000 We're on the march.

00:23:04.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:23:31.000 We're about to finish up with John, Tim, and Jacob, and then that's going to be it for the discussion of Terry Schiavo.

00:23:39.000 And again, folks, if you study this case, there is so many nuances to it, so many lies, so much media corruption.

00:23:47.000 Just the stuff that happened with Larry King Live, how he gave Michael Schiavo about three times the time on the air that he was going to give the Schindlers, the parents.

00:23:58.000 Whatever happened with that, Bob?

00:24:01.000 That was rescheduled to sometime in the future.

00:24:04.000 And we're not sure exactly when we'll make that appearance.

00:24:09.000 But Michael Schiavo, he got plenty of uninterrupted time, didn't he?

00:24:14.000 Yeah, well, he sure did.

00:24:15.000 He had the full hour, I believe, on that show.

00:24:19.000 Most of that, they don't really talk about the facts in Harry's case.

00:24:26.000 And it's a smokescreen.

00:24:29.000 As I said, they're coming after our family, and anything to take Terry out of focus. 1.00

00:24:35.000 Yeah, it's all right to die, right to die. 1.00

00:24:38.000 Hey, if she wants to die, let her die. 1.00

00:24:41.000 And then they never show the video, or they don't talk about the facts of the case. 0.99

00:24:46.000 It's, again, keeping the people in ignorance.

00:24:48.000 Well, they don't want to talk about Terry.

00:24:50.000 And unfortunately, she doesn't have any type of therapy.

00:24:56.000 It's just, you know, that's just so cruel is what it is, what's happened, or what...

00:25:02.000 Has been permitted to happen to her.

00:25:03.000 Now, John in New York raises a good point.

00:25:06.000 I mean, can't you start the appeal process to get Michael Schiavo to lose his guardianship?

00:25:15.000 I mean, he's with this other woman with two children, pregnant again, has refused any type of rehabilitation at the protesting of doctors.

00:25:24.000 I mean, isn't that enough to get him removed?

00:25:26.000 There's a case in front of Judge Greer.

00:25:31.000 Uh, to have him remove his guardianship.

00:25:35.000 And that was filed in January of 2002.

00:25:37.000 And the judge is just starting, just recently, has started to discuss that case.

00:25:45.000 But it sat, you know, in front of him for the better part of two years.

00:25:49.000 What about filing complaints using the system's own tools against it?

00:25:53.000 Finding complaints of where she's not being properly cared for and filing those with the Health and Human Services.

00:26:00.000 Yeah, there was a complaint filed with an agency that is looking into these complaints.

00:26:07.000 So basically, you've been doing everything right as a father would.

00:26:11.000 John raises a good point.

00:26:12.000 John in New York, anything else?

00:26:14.000 To clarify, more specifically, the fact that he was coerced into signing the contract Under the pretenses that the guy was going to provide care, which was a lie, was a fraud.

00:26:30.000 And that alone should nullify the contract.

00:26:33.000 Also, you could probably get a psychiatrist, obviously to be honest, to say that your daughter had just gone into this horrible state and that you were in no position just days after to be signing away your rights, and that was done under duress.

00:26:51.000 That's all in front of Judge Greer in the 6th District, that's what.

00:26:57.000 And as I mentioned, there is a petition in front of the judge or a motion to remove Terry's husband.

00:27:06.000 But if he doesn't act on that in a certain period, can't it automatically go to appeal?

00:27:10.000 I don't know.

00:27:11.000 I really don't know.

00:27:13.000 Anything else, John? 0.99

00:27:15.000 I'd just say that the scumbag, I had to face him and that situation happened to me. 0.99

00:27:22.000 I'd make sure the guy doesn't live to spend the money. 1.00

00:27:25.000 That's all I gotta say.

00:27:26.000 Alright, we hope that there's no harm upon anybody here, folks.

00:27:31.000 This is a non-violent show, and I've always said that for defense, yes, it's good.

00:27:37.000 For any offensive activities, it's bad.

00:27:39.000 That plays into their hands.

00:27:41.000 We wish no harm upon Michael Cockroach Schiavo.

00:27:46.000 Any comments to that, Bob?

00:27:48.000 Well, again, our main area, we're not here to And that's good news for not just Terry, but everybody.

00:27:57.000 We've got to expose.

00:27:59.000 and getting the proper attention that she deserves.

00:28:02.000 And I might mention that people, there's a grassroots movement out there now

00:28:06.000 where people are starting to wear the ribbons and they're putting lights in their windows for Terry.

00:28:11.000 And that's good news for not just Terry, but everybody.

00:28:14.000 We've got to expose, again, for people who don't know, they're killing people who are begging for food and water.

00:28:20.000 Please give me water.

00:28:22.000 We've listed the names.

00:28:24.000 This is going on.

00:28:26.000 Let's talk to Tim in Canada.

00:28:28.000 Tim, you're on the air.

00:28:28.000 Go ahead.

00:28:29.000 Hi, Alex, and hi, Bob.

00:28:31.000 Hi, Tim.

00:28:32.000 Bob, I've been watching, you know, this, well, since it first became news, and listening to this show, it's been news for a long time, and I was going to ask you the question, you know, at what point you might take the law into your own hands, but I'm not going to ask you that question.

00:28:47.000 I just would suggest that there might come a point in time when you might have to get a group of people and get her out of that hospice.

00:28:52.000 Take the matter into your own hands.

00:28:54.000 I'm not suggesting violence, but, uh...

00:28:57.000 Well, that is defensive, and I understand people's outrage, and I'm not saying that it's not founded in decent humanity.

00:29:06.000 I'm just looking at this as a chess board, how to save this dear woman.

00:29:10.000 But that question, Bob, I don't expect you to answer it, but I know it's gone through your mind.

00:29:17.000 That's why they've got armed police at considerable expense guarding her to make sure nobody can get to her. 0.99

00:29:25.000 It was a scary set, really.

00:29:26.000 There's been numbers, and I say numbers, of people that have made that suggestion.

00:29:32.000 As a matter of fact, there were people that were coming And do that facility, do such a thing, and we plead with them not to.

00:29:40.000 Yeah, probably provocateurs.

00:29:42.000 Well, we were concerned that... You'd have been in handcuffs within 10 seconds of saying yes.

00:29:46.000 Well, it's not only that... Get down on the ground, Schindler! 0.98

00:29:49.000 You're going down!

00:29:49.000 Get down on the ground!

00:29:50.000 You would have had guys pull guns on you the instant you agreed.

00:29:54.000 Well, we were concerned that, you know, the people who were out there, and we've had a vigil there for the past six weeks, where people have been in front of that facility, and we don't want anyone to be harmed.

00:30:04.000 Yeah, that plays into their hands, but next time they pull the tube and it looks like she's going to die, what was it like watching her over seven plus days being denied water, Bob?

00:30:14.000 Well, I don't even want to get into that.

00:30:16.000 It was just horrible.

00:30:20.000 Torture, I would imagine.

00:30:21.000 Well, I can't imagine.

00:30:23.000 And Shivo's mistress mother was one of the matrons that was there inside the room, literally guarding Perry against that belief.

00:30:34.000 Two woman matrons that were there, and his future mother-in-law was one of them. 1.00

00:30:39.000 So imagine the wife, paralyzed from the top of the shoulders down, looking around fully conscious while the mistress' mother is there.

00:30:52.000 This is unbelievable.

00:30:54.000 It's like a Shakespearean tragedy.

00:30:56.000 Well, it's sick.

00:30:58.000 The mentality of these people, it's sick that they can and watch a murder take place.

00:31:06.000 Okay, Tim, thanks for the call.

00:31:08.000 Fine points.

00:31:09.000 Jacob in Oklahoma, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:31:12.000 Yeah, hello Alex and Bob.

00:31:15.000 Hello, Jacob.

00:31:17.000 You know, I haven't heard any real program for her healing.

00:31:26.000 You need to get her on north pole magnets. 1.00

00:31:28.000 You need to get her on a north pole magnetic cap and get her on natural food. 1.00

00:31:33.000 Oh, I know the natural food will certainly help.

00:31:35.000 They won't allow her.

00:31:37.000 She was eating food eight, nine years ago, and then they refused it.

00:31:41.000 The doctors became quite angry, Bob.

00:31:43.000 Yeah, there are a number of doctors who have volunteered pro bono to treat Terry.

00:31:51.000 Doctors who have been successful treating patients like Terry, they have recovered.

00:31:57.000 We don't expect Terry to be 100% ever, but we do expect her to recover to the point Where she can re-enter and lead a useful life.

00:32:09.000 Well, it's like a line from that movie, The Quiet American, where the guy's son's dying of polio and he says, I don't care if he's crippled, I just don't want him to die!

00:32:18.000 Well, I think she deserves a chance and that's what's been motivating us all these years.

00:32:25.000 She deserves an opportunity to get some type of care to help her and she's never had that.

00:32:32.000 You're in the room with the mistress mommy. 0.95

00:32:35.000 How do you control yourself?

00:32:37.000 I won't go there either.

00:32:39.000 It's just a feeling of nausea how she could promote this.

00:32:49.000 The thing is that her daughter is going to be marrying this guy and if you believe in I don't think I'd be that anxious to be participating in something like this.

00:33:00.000 Well, I know you reap what you sow.

00:33:02.000 Well, exactly.

00:33:03.000 And if it were harm, I think that God has a way of... Well, I'll tell you, the people involved in this have been busy, you know, digging a hole straight to Hades so they just can, you know, do one more little scoop and fall right in when they die.

00:33:19.000 Well, it's just something that they're directly violating, I think, the will of God.

00:33:24.000 At some point in time, they're going to pay the piper.

00:33:28.000 Jacob, anything else?

00:33:30.000 Well, that North Pole magnetic cap would really do her some good.

00:33:34.000 I'd like to get her up to the North Pole.

00:33:36.000 In fact, the Canada tried to pass a resolution to allow Perry to immigrate to Canada.

00:33:45.000 I don't know if you're aware of that.

00:33:48.000 Oh, yes, I was aware of that.

00:33:49.000 Yeah, they had that.

00:33:50.000 Unfortunately, it did not go through, but they wanted to make her a Canadian citizen.

00:33:57.000 It's totally disgusting and it's happening to people in hospital beds all over the country.

00:34:02.000 Thanks for the call, Jacob.

00:34:03.000 Bob Schindler, the website terrysfight.org, links to it at infowars.com and prisonplanet.com.

00:34:10.000 We'll have you back on as this develops, hopefully for the better, my friend.

00:34:13.000 Well, I hope so, and I thank you again for having me one of all your listeners.

00:34:18.000 Keep praying for Terry.

00:34:19.000 Yes.

00:34:23.000 Yeah, things will work out the way they should.

00:34:24.000 All right, thank you.

00:34:26.000 Thank you very much.

00:34:27.000 Take care, my friend.

00:34:27.000 We'll be praying for you, as you said.

Alex Jones Show - November 26, 2003

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