Alex Jones Show - 20031212_Fri_Alex

00:00:04.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

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00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:16.000 and now live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Good afternoon, good morning, good evening, depending on what time zone you're listening to us in

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00:00:39.000 It is It is 12-12-03.

00:00:44.000 12-12-03, the 12th day of December 2003.

00:00:48.000 It is Friday, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:50.000 And I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:00:52.000 We have two guests coming up today in the third hour.

00:00:54.000 Congressman Tom Tancredo from Colorado.

00:00:58.000 One of the best voting records in Congress, especially on the open border issue.

00:01:03.000 And now we have Bush admitting, yes, Ridge was actually opening a new front, a new salvo, on Tuesday when he told a gathering in Miami that we need to find a way to legalize all the illegals.

00:01:20.000 Getting rid of our sovereignty, paying Social Security to illegals, accepting any fake ID card. 1.00

00:01:25.000 This is your Homeland Security head.

00:01:27.000 And now Bush says, yeah, we're going to head with amnesty!

00:01:29.000 And the assault weapons ban, and cutting Taiwan loose, and everything else you can imagine.

00:01:37.000 The conservative Supreme Court says they love campaign finance reform, the brainchild of Hillary Clinton and others.

00:01:44.000 Bush signed on to.

00:01:45.000 That's happened to this week.

00:01:47.000 In the next hour, we've got the author of the Phoenix Project, written back in 1990, been following it for decades, the CIA assassination squads, breaking some new big stories.

00:01:57.000 He'll be joining us in the next hour.

00:02:01.000 Big show lined up for you.

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00:02:26.000 Congress pushes for larger military.

00:02:30.000 Members of Congress from both parties are pushing for the first significant increase in the size of active-duty military in 16 years, despite resistance from the Pentagon.

00:02:39.000 Yeah, right, from the Pentagon.

00:02:41.000 And they're way under recruiting numbers, even after 9-11.

00:02:45.000 And they got their national draft coming up.

00:02:47.000 That's the USA Today.

00:02:49.000 We'll get to that.

00:02:49.000 Also, Iraq Army walks out over pay.

00:02:53.000 Our own troops aren't being paid, but now the local forces aren't being paid either.

00:02:59.000 Soldiers in Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction protection, nor will they ever get it.

00:03:05.000 Care less about the troops, folks.

00:03:07.000 All those contracts have to go to Halliburton and others.

00:03:09.000 Speaking of that, Pentagon finds Halliburton overcharged.

00:03:12.000 Oh, yes.

00:03:14.000 Scamming.

00:03:15.000 And the numbers are in the tens of billions of dollars.

00:03:20.000 And no bids are allowed.

00:03:21.000 Only Bechtel, Halliburton, and DynCorp are allowed to get the money.

00:03:26.000 War profiteering right out in the open by those in the administration.

00:03:30.000 Again, it's conservative just like cutting Taiwan loose, or campaign finance reform, or resigning the assault weapons ban.

00:03:36.000 I'm a liberal because I'm against all that.

00:03:38.000 I'm for Taiwan.

00:03:39.000 I'm a communist.

00:03:40.000 I'm pro-gun.

00:03:41.000 I'm a liberal.

00:03:42.000 It goes on and on.

00:03:43.000 I'm being serious here now.

00:03:44.000 This is what you are as neocon conservatives as you help destroy America.

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00:03:50.000 intelligence, North Korea using internet to indoctrinate the masses.

00:03:53.000 See, the internet must be controlled.

00:03:55.000 North Korea uses it.

00:03:57.000 Yeah, and Rumsfeld gives them reactors, but that's okay.

00:04:00.000 Phoenix School, first to install face scanners.

00:04:03.000 Oh! 0.60

00:04:04.000 Thumb scanners to eat, face scanners walking around, scanning your faces for a good reason, of course.

00:04:12.000 Cameras in the bathrooms and showers.

00:04:15.000 Mondo Quake in Pacific Northwest.

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00:04:21.000 Also, flu forces some public schools to close.

00:04:26.000 UK may ban antidepressants for children.

00:04:28.000 They admit it's causing massive suicides.

00:04:30.000 They knew that in 1983 when they approved Prozac.

00:04:34.000 Also, from Declan McCullough, the big writer for major publications.

00:04:39.000 How to delete your child's DNA from databank.

00:04:42.000 Oh, you didn't know that all your children are in a DNA databank?

00:04:45.000 Yes, you are!

00:04:48.000 Yes, it's not a blood test of your child when they're born.

00:04:51.000 It's going into a state and federal international databases.

00:04:56.000 That, too, when we get back.

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00:08:18.000 It's Open Line Friday.

00:08:20.000 Any issue, news item you'd like to discuss, you disagree with me, you agree with me, you have a question, a comment, 1-800-259-9231.

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00:08:38.000 Now, I'm kind of in a catch-22 here, because a lot of stations don't carry the first five-minute segment, but I still do it, because it's the real news.

00:08:49.000 I always want to recap what's coming up, but Congress pushes for larger military, Iraq Army walks out over pay, soldiers in Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction protection, Pentagon finds Halliburton overcharged them, uh, yeah, no kidding, war profiteering, major scamming, computer crimes unit makes first arrest, 20 years in prison for spamming, Phoenix school first to install face scanners.

00:09:16.000 Giant earthquake brewing under Pacific Northwest.

00:09:20.000 Flu forces some public schools to close.

00:09:22.000 UK may ban antidepressants for children.

00:09:26.000 Did you know that all of your children in the last 20 plus years, it's actually 30 plus years, have been put in a federal database.

00:09:40.000 A federal database.

00:09:43.000 I was thinking that Prozac has been authorized for 20 years, since 1983, and I have the trials here in front of me, where they knew it was causing a massive level of suicides, but the FDA, the same folks that approved genetically modified garbage and fluoride in the water, they went ahead and said that Prozac was a good thing.

00:10:06.000 But getting back to blood samples of your children, how to delete your child's DNA from a data bank?

00:10:13.000 And this is from Polly Techbot, or the website of Declan McCullough, who writes for Wired Magazine, CNET, The Washington Post, you name it.

00:10:24.000 I'm going to get him on the show next week.

00:10:27.000 I'm trying to get him on today, but guaranteed next week to talk about this, because I've been focusing on it for years.

00:10:34.000 And by the way, in the next hour we have the author of the Phoenix Project about CIA assassin squads.

00:10:40.000 He's also a reporter with some late breaking news on the hit teams.

00:10:45.000 ...that are being fashionalized in the media, being made trendy.

00:10:49.000 In the third hour, we have Congressman Tom Tancredo talk about Governor Ridge, who wants totally open borders and blanket amnesty, and Bush has now announced that, yes, that is the official plan.

00:11:01.000 Well, we already knew that, but it's a restatement of it, so the congressman from Colorado in the third hour.

00:11:06.000 But, uh, Politech, how to delete your child's DNA?

00:11:13.000 From the state data bank.

00:11:15.000 This article explains how to delete it from a state data bank, but not from the federal data banks.

00:11:23.000 I'm going to get Declan and the person's story that he posted on about this next week.

00:11:31.000 Also, tax protester wins one over the U.S.

00:11:34.000 government, but they don't care.

00:11:35.000 They go ahead and keep him in jail despite that.

00:11:39.000 Also, a net out of control.

00:11:41.000 Unthinkable how the internet could become a tool of corporate and government power based on updates now in the works.

00:11:48.000 Censoring out all alternative news and information.

00:11:52.000 Shutting down anything that criticizes the government in any way.

00:11:55.000 It's already begun.

00:11:56.000 We've already told you about this.

00:11:58.000 MSNBC.

00:12:01.000 That's MSNBC.

00:12:06.000 There's a lot of interesting news and information coming up here on the show today that, well, I haven't even gotten to yet, like this one.

00:12:14.000 I already mentioned it, but here's from the Washington Times.

00:12:16.000 White House verifies Immigration Review that they're searching for a way to legalize all illegals in the country.

00:12:23.000 And again, Tom Ridge, time to legalize the illegals. 0.94

00:12:28.000 Also, terrorist acts organized by Russian secret services.

00:12:33.000 Yesterday it was the British admitting right out in the open that they were bombing stuff to blame it on their enemies.

00:12:38.000 And an anti-Bush drawing called Hate Speech and removed from a museum in California.

00:12:45.000 And I'm looking at a picture of the painting and it's Bush standing on top of a grave or beside a grave that talks about freedom must die and it blames Bush in the text under it for carrying out 9-11.

00:13:05.000 So that's hate speech and must be removed here in the good old U.S.

00:13:11.000 of A. Mental health experts call sniper defendant brainwashed.

00:13:15.000 They say he's been under some type of brainwashing.

00:13:18.000 Yeah, no kidding.

00:13:21.000 If you think Charlie Manson could brainwash people, what do you think the government can do?

00:13:28.000 So that's just some of the news that's coming up today.

00:13:31.000 Let me go ahead and get into this DNA database story first, because that's obviously very, very, very important and affects everybody.

00:13:41.000 And about six years ago, I saw a federal report A listener emailed me a congressional reauthorization package for hundreds of millions of dollars to maintain the national DNA database held on everyone in this country.

00:14:06.000 And that's been going on for roughly, well we're going to go into the 33rd year in the new year.

00:14:14.000 These states are mandated, it's not even a law, but if they get their state health department funding, which goes on down to the county, then they have to take three ampules of blood from the heel of your newborn baby.

00:14:34.000 And it is true that the county takes the blood and puts it on a splotch test and tests for blood diseases.

00:14:42.000 It's an inexpensive test and the hospital could do it, but they don't.

00:14:48.000 33 years ago, these states came to the local hospitals with the health department and said, here's a new health department regulation.

00:14:56.000 You were to take three ampoules of blood and no longer do the blood testing here at your hospital.

00:15:04.000 And the hospital said, sure, we follow whatever your guidelines are.

00:15:09.000 And it's not a law, it's the guidelines.

00:15:12.000 And so they started giving the ampoules of blood to the county health department.

00:15:18.000 Now why did the county need three jiggers of blood? 0.68

00:15:22.000 Why did they need three capsules, three ampoules, three packets of your child's blood?

00:15:31.000 I have the official federal document from the reauthorization six years ago.

00:15:38.000 They reauthorize funding every year for it.

00:15:41.000 They take the blood and one goes to the county for testing, another goes to the state, and another goes to the federal government.

00:15:55.000 And about 30 years ago, from England to Canada to Australia to New Zealand, what I call the echelon group of countries, they all do things in the same order, under the same names in many cases.

00:16:06.000 In the last year, we've had a congressman on from Virginia about the subject.

00:16:10.000 He's against it.

00:16:12.000 I have read out of the Sunday Morning Herald where they had the Bali bombing that killed all those Australians.

00:16:19.000 Right when Australia didn't want to get in the war, why a nightclub full of them gets blown up, killing on Al-Qaeda for the war effort.

00:16:26.000 Good old CIA, I mean Al-Qaeda.

00:16:28.000 And they said in the news, guess what?

00:16:31.000 Guess what?

00:16:32.000 Everybody under about 32 We have your blood in this Australian national database and so we can use it to identify the bodies! 0.99

00:16:47.000 And then at the bottom of the article it said, oh and there's a discussion of using it for all crimes now and having a national DNA database it would save so many people.

00:16:58.000 It would catch so many criminals.

00:17:01.000 We've got the blood we've just been keeping.

00:17:04.000 Just so happens we've got it.

00:17:07.000 Same thing here in the U.S.

00:17:09.000 You realize how big a deal this is?

00:17:12.000 They start the National DNA Database 30 plus years ago, all over the western world, or the echelon group of countries as I call them, and you tell your doctor, I don't want you taking the blood and sending it off to the feds.

00:17:25.000 Well, it's mandated.

00:17:26.000 What's your problem?

00:17:27.000 Should I call CPS in here?

00:17:28.000 That's what they do.

00:17:30.000 Tell them, go, well just do the blood test here, I'll pay for it.

00:17:32.000 No, no, no.

00:17:34.000 The feds pay for this and this is mandated and blah blah blah.

00:17:39.000 Think about this, folks.

00:17:41.000 Parents with children born in the state of Michigan.

00:17:44.000 This is from Declan McCullough's website.

00:17:46.000 Again, a writer for CNET News, Washington Post, Wired Magazine.

00:17:51.000 Parents with children born in the state of Michigan can request that their children's blood samples be destroyed.

00:17:58.000 When our son, Dylan, was born at the University of Michigan Hospital, the blood sample was taken without parental consent and over my explicit objections.

00:18:06.000 Two techs who work for the state drew the blood sample, placed five drops on the top of a carefully marked card, and left without giving us discharge instructions.

00:18:17.000 Uh, or left without speaking to anyone else.

00:18:20.000 Several doctors came in ahead of the techs, began giving us discharge instructions at the time the sample was taken, and Trouble reading the small print.

00:18:29.000 And they stood in my way as I tried to approach Dylan.

00:18:33.000 They couldn't understand how I would mind that a blood sample was being gathered by the state.

00:18:38.000 Merely saying that it's required by law and that it doesn't hurt too much, they later gave me several pamphlets explaining the importance of newborn screening.

00:18:49.000 Indeed it is, but I can ask my doctor to do it myself.

00:18:53.000 Exactly.

00:18:54.000 I spoke with Harry Hawkins of the Michigan Department of Community Health, who assured me that the samples were kept at an undisclosed warehouse Which was locked behind a chain link fence and that they would be destroyed after 21 years.

00:19:08.000 However, he agreed to destroy the sample and both parents requested it.

00:19:13.000 His mother and I sent Harry Hawkins a letter stating, please destroy all samples of our son's blood.

00:19:20.000 If any identifying data such as DNA fingerprint has been obtained from the sample, please destroy that data also.

00:19:27.000 And then there's all the required details below.

00:19:29.000 I later received a notarized form indicating that the blood sample had been destroyed and witnessed.

00:19:35.000 There was no mention of any DNA information, but I have no reason to believe that they gathered any, so I don't intend to pursue the matter further.

00:19:43.000 Well, you're naive, Harry C. Hawkins, in the story.

00:19:47.000 That's okay, at least you're concerned.

00:19:50.000 That's just the state blood, buddy.

00:19:52.000 There's three ampules.

00:19:55.000 One is in an international database publicly.

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00:24:05.000 But let's walk through this.

00:24:08.000 You have a Fourth Amendment.

00:24:10.000 They have to have a warrant to come into your house and take one of your magazines, or take some of your files, or take your silverware, or to test your carpet, or to look in your basement for marijuana plant.

00:24:32.000 But, when your baby's born, the doctors just sit there, the nurses just sit there sucking ampules of blood out, sending it off to a federal slash international database, it's stored in a state database, the health department does destroy the sample, they actually do the blood test.

00:24:51.000 Why is the health department doing the blood test?

00:24:53.000 It started 30 plus years ago to get them into your life, as an excuse to get a hold of the blood, federally funded.

00:25:00.000 This is admitted!

00:25:02.000 This is admitted!

00:25:04.000 Stealing your child's blood and putting it in a DNA database.

00:25:07.000 Now, what can they do with that?

00:25:10.000 Well, they can do medical experiments with it.

00:25:14.000 They admit that some of these samples have been bought by big pharmacological companies.

00:25:19.000 And there's been a Supreme Court ruling, a Ninth Circuit court ruling as well that I've seen the last few years, where they rule that Medical institutions can sell your blood samples, and that if an institution, if a scientific firm makes a breakthrough with a protein or a gene in your blood, you don't own it, they own it.

00:25:36.000 Did you know that?

00:25:38.000 Oh, so they steal your blood and sell it.

00:25:41.000 You know, hospitals all over the country have been caught stealing people's corneas.

00:25:47.000 Stealing their skin, even though they said, I'm not an organ donor.

00:25:52.000 But these are dead people!

00:25:54.000 What about stealing living people's blood and your DNA?

00:25:59.000 And then you have an FBI crime lab that's been caught framing hundreds and hundreds of people.

00:26:05.000 The Houston crime lab has been caught framing thousands of people, over 2,000, according to the Houston Chronicle.

00:26:11.000 And the police chief?

00:26:12.000 We have Tulea, Texas, where they frame 56 people. 0.86

00:26:15.000 No drugs, no paraphernalia found.

00:26:17.000 They get 20 to 90 years in prison.

00:26:19.000 Again, you've all heard about these cases.

00:26:21.000 The FBI in Boston running murder-for-hire operations, imprisoning innocent people so their guilty hitmen would go free.

00:26:31.000 And so this group is going to have all our blood.

00:26:35.000 Folks, they have my blood.

00:26:37.000 I'm under 33 years old.

00:26:40.000 They have my blood.

00:26:43.000 They have your children's blood, they have your grandchildren's blood, and they didn't ask for it.

00:26:48.000 They put it in a legal database.

00:26:51.000 They engage in a open conspiracy, ordering the health departments, if they want federal funds, to get your blood and mail it off to them.

00:27:02.000 And it's in Canada, it's England, it's Australia, it's the US, it's New Zealand.

00:27:07.000 The five countries that do everything Have the same programs, the same operations.

00:27:12.000 We're the Echelon Group of Nations.

00:27:14.000 I say Echelon because I first noted that all these countries do the same thing in the same order with Echelon back in the 60's and it's right through to today.

00:27:23.000 We have Head Start, they have Smart Start in England.

00:27:27.000 They have Great Start in Australia. 0.98

00:27:30.000 It's ridiculous, folks! 0.98

00:27:31.000 It's the same social planning, the same program! 0.97

00:27:36.000 Then they announce it to you.

00:27:38.000 We need to, if you ever get arrested for a parking ticket or whatever, even get ticketed, we want to take your blood or your cheek swab for a DNA database.

00:27:47.000 They're starting all this now, see?

00:27:50.000 Getting you ready for it.

00:27:51.000 Congress is about to pass the law.

00:27:55.000 Even if you're not convicted or indicted, they put you in the DNA database.

00:27:58.000 They've already got the DNA database.

00:28:00.000 They're just getting you ready for it.

00:28:03.000 Legalizing their criminality.

00:28:06.000 But it's still illegal what they're doing, taking your baby's blood.

00:28:10.000 I don't want to spend all day on this, but does this outrage anybody?

00:28:14.000 Uh, we'll, uh, come back and talk to, uh, all the great callers that are patiently holding.

00:28:21.000 And then we'll get into Congress pushes for larger military and the draft.

00:28:25.000 Iraq Army walkout overpaid.

00:28:28.000 Soldiers in Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction protection.

00:28:31.000 Pentagon finds Halliburton overcharged them, engaging a massive criminal enterprise.

00:28:36.000 Anybody else should go to prison, but don't worry, they'll go after Martha Stewart for you. 1.00

00:28:40.000 Make you feel like they're doing something.

00:28:43.000 Computer Crimes Unit makes first arrest in Virginia.

00:28:46.000 20 years in prison for sending out spam.

00:28:49.000 That's the Associated Press.

00:28:52.000 That's just some of what we got.

00:28:54.000 Face scanners going in the schools.

00:28:56.000 Already got cameras in the showers and bathrooms.

00:28:58.000 Bottles will go all the way!

00:29:02.000 And you're saying, Alex, you mention every day in the last month how they put cameras in the bathrooms in schools.

00:29:06.000 Folks, do you realize how evil that is?

00:29:09.000 How un-American that is?

00:29:10.000 That's Soviet Union on steroids! 1.00

00:29:15.000 And I got stacks of these articles today, just all out in the open, every article, how good it is!

00:29:20.000 How wonderful!

00:29:22.000 It's so good!

00:29:25.000 Again, Congressman Tom Zancredo.

00:29:28.000 Bob Bush wanted to get rid of our borders completely in the third hour.

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00:33:06.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:09.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire...

00:33:13.000 So, the government is quietly erasing the Fourth, the Fifth, the Tenth, the First, the Second Amendment, the Seventh,

00:33:20.000 the Ninth, the Third.

00:33:22.000 They're getting rid of the whole Bill of Rights, and for 30 plus years they've been taking blood samples from your

00:33:27.000 children and putting them in a federal, now an international, database.

00:33:32.000 A DNA database.

00:33:34.000 To come in your house and to look for drugs or whatever, they gotta have a warrant.

00:33:40.000 Or to come in your business and get records, they gotta have a warrant.

00:33:43.000 To take a bean out of a bag of beans in your pantry, they have to have a warrant.

00:33:52.000 To take a speck of dust off the floor, they have to have a warrant.

00:33:55.000 But not to take your child's blood, they illegally take it and do this, and it's an admitted fact, and the average person has no idea about this.

00:34:06.000 But more and more news stories come out about it as the government goes, yeah, we have it, we ought to just make it a national DNA database.

00:34:14.000 They did it all along, folks. 0.96

00:34:16.000 Now they think you're dumb enough to accept this. 0.94

00:34:19.000 And the FBI and local police all over the country have been caught framing everybody up one side and down the other with fake DNA and the rest of it. 0.96

00:34:27.000 Planting blood, taking blood from suspects, and going and planting it at the scene.

00:34:31.000 They don't have to do that with this new DNA database, folks.

00:34:35.000 Do you understand they've been caught doing it?

00:34:39.000 What an illustration of how outrageous this is.

00:34:41.000 You know, it's like pulling up to your house and criminals have got a van out front loading your TV sets and DVD players and computers and jewelry up in the back and you run over and go, what are you doing?

00:34:53.000 I'm calling the police and they go, hey buddy, back off!

00:34:56.000 Why are you acting so upset?

00:34:57.000 What's wrong with you?

00:34:58.000 Are you some kind of extremist? 0.99

00:35:00.000 I bet if a criminal calmly said that to you, a lot of Americans would go, huh? 0.97

00:35:04.000 Who are you?

00:35:06.000 You'd at least be off balance.

00:35:08.000 That's what they do.

00:35:09.000 You got a problem with the government putting cameras in hundreds of school districts' bathrooms?

00:35:15.000 You got a problem with us having the borders wide open?

00:35:19.000 You got a problem with us cutting Taiwan loose? 0.95

00:35:23.000 You got a problem with police wearing black ski masks and driving armored vehicles and dressing up in Darth Vader outfits?

00:35:30.000 You got a problem with the army hiring convicted felons and illegal aliens?

00:35:35.000 You got a problem with the troops breathing depleted uranium at 1,900 times safe levels?

00:35:42.000 Army doctors admit?

00:35:43.000 You're weird.

00:35:45.000 Weirdos are against that.

00:35:48.000 Strange people who might have al-Qaeda leanings.

00:35:55.000 We never said it wouldn't be used against terrorism.

00:35:59.000 It's just that you didn't look at the definition of terrorism, they say.

00:36:03.000 Topless bars, county commissioners in bid rigging for zoning, pot dealers.

00:36:10.000 We're going to use it for everything now.

00:36:14.000 This is what they're doing, but a new article from Declan McCullough, a posting from Declan McCullough, again, writer for CNET News, Wired Magazine, about, yeah, you call up the Michigan Health Department, they admit they're keeping your baby's blood for decades and decades, but forget that database, it's the federal one, folks!

00:36:30.000 They take three ampules of blood!

00:36:34.000 And no one's really talking about this.

00:36:36.000 The last few years since I started pushing it, I've seen a few news stories about it, But, just, it's such an illustration of, you know, you go, you have a child, you talk to the doctors, you say, do the blood test here.

00:36:53.000 But it's mandated.

00:36:54.000 But it's a DNA database.

00:36:56.000 But it's mandated.

00:36:57.000 Well, do the test here.

00:36:59.000 No, it goes to the government. 0.99

00:37:01.000 It's all color of law, like all of this trash. 0.94

00:37:04.000 And if we just accept it, it'll become like the driver's license. 0.81

00:37:07.000 Did you know you didn't have to have a driver's license in this country?

00:37:10.000 The Supreme Court ruled in 1918 that the general and regular conveyance, you don't have to have a license, but at that time it was a horse and buggy.

00:37:19.000 You still don't need a license to have a horse and buggy going down the highway.

00:37:22.000 Did you know that?

00:37:24.000 But still the unusual conveyance is the automobile.

00:37:28.000 It's all color of law.

00:37:30.000 You know, they just told us, it's a privilege to drive, and we go, okay, privilege to drive.

00:37:34.000 Now they're saying it's a privilege to own a gun.

00:37:37.000 And more and more people are going, OK, it's a privilege.

00:37:39.000 And the gun magazines are going, well, having a registration of gun owners early isn't an infringement.

00:37:45.000 We need to be a little more reasonable.

00:37:50.000 And Josh Sugarman of Violence Policy Center bragged.

00:37:52.000 He said, look, we got your children in the public schools.

00:37:55.000 I'll never forget that March 25, 2001 article in the States where Josh Sugarman said, look, we got your kids.

00:38:02.000 We're going to ban your guns.

00:38:06.000 You know, it's just real funny, isn't it?

00:38:10.000 And you got cops driving around all over the place that think they're enforcing the law, and doing their job, and you guys don't even know what the Bill of Rights is.

00:38:19.000 But you know what?

00:38:19.000 The police know a lot more than the general public.

00:38:23.000 Again, over two-thirds of university professors, administrators, students, don't know what the First Amendment is in a major survey.

00:38:32.000 But they'll have a debate with me about how, you know, how the country works and how America operates.

00:38:40.000 Oh boy.

00:38:42.000 You know, I wouldn't argue with a professional umpire about the rules of baseball.

00:38:46.000 And so until you studied baseball a little bit, don't argue with them.

00:38:49.000 Well, you can argue with me, but what scares me is, is that you don't know how to argue.

00:38:54.000 You don't have any facts.

00:38:55.000 I'm talking about the yuppies that'll occasionally corner me at the grocery store and laugh at me. 0.98

00:39:00.000 Oh, you're that black helicopter kook. 1.00

00:39:02.000 You think the government's corrupt. 1.00

00:39:03.000 Ha ha ha!

00:39:05.000 And I'll say, well, actually, history shows that governments really have been dangerous.

00:39:08.000 We should watch them.

00:39:10.000 The founding fathers.

00:39:11.000 And they'll just laugh at me.

00:39:14.000 And it's their own little form of, you know, mental Tiddlywinks is a better term for it, but I won't use it.

00:39:21.000 It's their own little form of mental ring-around-the-rosie, running around in circles, just feeling good, laughing at me.

00:39:29.000 And I'm, like, desperately trying to get them out of quicksand, and they're laughing at me. 0.91

00:39:33.000 It's disgusting!

00:39:35.000 But again, that's the vast, vast, vast, vast, vast, vast, vast minority. 0.85

00:39:41.000 I mean, here I am on my own syndicated show.

00:39:43.000 Dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of AM and FM stations.

00:39:47.000 We're on in L.A.

00:39:48.000 right now.

00:39:49.000 We're on in Rhode Island.

00:39:50.000 You know, just points of the compass there.

00:39:52.000 East and West.

00:39:54.000 Affiliates all in between.

00:39:56.000 And I sit here going, call me!

00:39:57.000 Disagree with me!

00:39:58.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:40:02.000 Years ago, people would call and do it.

00:40:04.000 I could load the phones with it.

00:40:05.000 They don't call anymore.

00:40:06.000 They know it's all true.

00:40:07.000 They heard me say the Supreme Court was following the U.N.' 's orders six, seven, eight, nine years ago.

00:40:11.000 Now they're in USA Today, AP, Washington Post, Nightly News.

00:40:16.000 We follow the U.N.' 's orders now.

00:40:20.000 That's global government, boys and girls.

00:40:24.000 But still, I find that some professionals, the yuppies, they feel like they're part of the establishment.

00:40:29.000 They will defend it like ants.

00:40:32.000 Defending their anthill.

00:40:35.000 And I don't know what to say to you people driving along in your cars right now.

00:40:40.000 Don't laugh about what I'm saying.

00:40:42.000 You know deep down it's true.

00:40:44.000 That's why you're afraid to have a real debate with me.

00:40:48.000 Come on, what am I saying that isn't true?

00:40:49.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:40:51.000 Let's talk to Cindy in South Carolina, then Bill and others.

00:40:55.000 Let's talk to Cindy in South Carolina, then Bill and others.

00:41:00.000 Go ahead.

00:41:01.000 Hi, Alex.

00:41:02.000 Hi Alex.

00:41:03.000 Hello.

00:41:04.000 My son is connected with the 4th Infantry.

00:41:07.000 Okay.

00:41:09.000 I agree with a lot of what you have to say about Bush.

00:41:12.000 I actually wrote an anti-Bush poem that I submitted to your website.

00:41:20.000 Are you still there?

00:41:24.000 I think you've got call waiting or something cutting in on you.

00:41:27.000 Are you there?

00:41:28.000 Yeah, we get thousands of emails.

00:41:30.000 If we didn't post it, send it again to tipsandinfowars.com.

00:41:34.000 Tips?

00:41:35.000 Tips.

00:41:36.000 Tipsandinfowars.com.

00:41:37.000 Okay.

00:41:38.000 And say, Alex says post this poem.

00:41:41.000 Okay, I wanted to let you know that I did receive communication from my son in Baghdad.

00:41:47.000 And he was talking about the house-to-house raids that they were doing in Tikrit.

00:41:52.000 Yes.

00:41:54.000 And how they were publicizing over here that they found all these weapons, they rounded up all these weapons.

00:42:00.000 He said they rounded up a couple of guns and they weren't even, they didn't even have ammunition to go with the guns.

00:42:06.000 He said he was frustrated because his unit is finding no weapons of mass destruction over there.

00:42:12.000 Oh, but they hold AK-47s up on the news and say, there's the weapon of mass destruction.

00:42:16.000 We're taking their guns.

00:42:18.000 Exactly.

00:42:19.000 And by the way now, you can't own a gun under our government, but under Saddam, you can walk right into a gun shop and buy guns. 0.82

00:42:26.000 Right.

00:42:27.000 Saddam could stand around with 10,000 people around him with AK-47s and no one was shooting.

00:42:33.000 Yeah, and he was frustrated because that big news story came out over here about how the morale was suffering in the troops.

00:42:41.000 And so he said that his unit was ordered not to speak to the press.

00:42:46.000 And he said, Mom, I thought we were fighting for the freedom of the Iraqi people.

00:42:50.000 And he said, they're trying to take away our own freedom of speech, and they won't let us talk about what's really going on over here.

00:42:55.000 Well, Cindy, they have ordered, according to the Associated Press, the Iraqi governorship to not report with their health department Numbers of dead civilians from starvation, bombs, you name it.

00:43:10.000 And so that's the freedom we're bringing.

00:43:12.000 Before we heard about the million and a half dead Iraqis from the sanctions, now we won't hear about it.

00:43:18.000 Out of sight, out of mind.

00:43:20.000 Of course. 0.94

00:43:21.000 And, you know, it makes me sick to listen to these conservative people like Sean Hannity on the radio kissing Bush's butt and talking about how great it is and how we went to this war for a good cause. 0.92

00:43:34.000 And nobody's willing to publicize what our own soldiers are saying. 0.95

00:43:38.000 Don't play Hannity's game.

00:43:39.000 He's a shill to keep the border open, to make you feel good while he gets our guns.

00:43:44.000 According to Hannity's political paradigm, he is a Marxist-Leninist.

00:43:50.000 No, I'm serious!

00:43:51.000 The major Canadian papers, major US papers, have reported that the 4th Communist International, Congressman Ron Paul gave a speech on this, survives in the administration and is running the administration.

00:44:03.000 I don't care how nuts that sounds, that is Ron Paul in the floor of the House, in a 47 minute speech, that is the Canada Post, that is, type, type into a search engine, the ghost of Trotsky walks the halls of the White House.

00:44:20.000 Okay.

00:44:21.000 The Communist Fourth International has taken control of the government.

00:44:28.000 I believe it.

00:44:30.000 And you don't think once the commies got in control, they would turn all over the banks and the money.

00:44:34.000 They want all the power and control for themselves.

00:44:36.000 Communism doesn't exist.

00:44:38.000 Communism, fascism, socialism, it's all command and control.

00:44:41.000 But the people that were communist fourth internationalists, the top people, the heads of it.

00:44:47.000 Crystal's daddy was the head of it.

00:44:48.000 Apertrovsky was killed in Mexico with an axe.

00:44:51.000 A hatchet, excuse me.

00:44:53.000 They are the brainchild of that.

00:45:00.000 Truth is stranger than fiction, Cindy.

00:45:02.000 What else is your son saying in the 4th Infantry?

00:45:07.000 He wants information on what we're hearing over here, because he says what we're hearing over here is not the truth.

00:45:13.000 They're not finding these massive caches of weapons.

00:45:17.000 There are no weapons of mass destruction.

00:45:19.000 uh... that they are they're being ordered not to speak up about what

00:45:23.000 morale like and what's going on over there now i'm glad you thought he'd lost total he said i don't

00:45:28.000 know what my government camp for anymore

00:45:31.000 he said they were thickened by the fact that we were looking at sending

00:45:34.000 troops into nigeria

00:45:36.000 uh...

00:45:38.000 that he thought you know we were coming he's beginning to speak

00:45:41.000 that this is all about oil revenue Well, your son better worry about the 1,900 times over the safe level depleted uranium.

00:45:49.000 That's the Army's own doctor who quit over it.

00:45:51.000 Yeah.

00:45:52.000 Their own head of it.

00:45:54.000 Thanks for the call, and we're sad for your son.

00:45:57.000 Depleted uranium.

00:46:00.000 Yummy.

00:46:02.000 Bill in Ohio, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:46:05.000 Yes, sir.

00:46:05.000 Hello?

00:46:06.000 You were talking a few moments ago about the government taking the blood samples from youngsters.

00:46:13.000 Is it totally just newborns that they're trying to do that from, or are they using whatever other sources they can to get as much as they can from the general populace?

00:46:23.000 I don't know about that.

00:46:25.000 The federal documents on every one under 33 years of age is in a federal database.

00:46:31.000 Well, about seven or eight years ago, I I made an application to an insurance company.

00:46:38.000 I jumped ship from a company that I had hospital insurance with.

00:46:41.000 They went through several premium increases that I thought were too high, so I found another company.

00:46:47.000 I figured I could get a better deal.

00:46:50.000 Before they would sign me up, they sent a nurse around to my home one day. 0.96

00:46:56.000 Called up, made an appointment, said when was I going to be there?

00:46:58.000 Yeah, they're testing for drugs and nicotine.

00:47:00.000 Well, is that all it is?

00:47:02.000 Well, that's what they say.

00:47:03.000 Again, I don't have federal documents on the insurance.

00:47:05.000 She drew enough blood out of my arm to start a bank account for Dracula. 0.99

00:47:09.000 And I was scratching my head wondering what it was for.

00:47:13.000 But... They didn't tell you?

00:47:14.000 No, it's... I've got life insurance.

00:47:16.000 It's for... It's to make sure you're not smoking cigarettes, to make sure you're not, you know, Drunk when they come do it to make sure you're not on cocaine.

00:47:29.000 I know there's a DNA database, we have the documents, the news articles, on the children, on everybody born.

00:47:36.000 I don't know, I know that some hospitals have been caught selling blood samples Two genetic engineering firms, when they come out with patents, they've been sued on stuff they got from the blood, and the Supreme Court and another federal court have ruled, you don't own your own blood.

00:47:52.000 So I know that sometimes they're selling it.

00:47:55.000 I don't know about your case.

00:47:57.000 I do know about the case of newborns.

00:47:59.000 I kind of wondered about that.

00:48:01.000 Something else too, that real quickly, I have in the last week or two, I try usually if I don't get to hear the program in the During the daytime, I try to catch it at night on the rebroadcast,

00:48:15.000 or else sometimes if you're on live.

00:48:17.000 And I've noticed that I think it's 6890, and also I've found it at 5085.

00:48:27.000 And for the last week or two, I have not been able to pull in those nighttime frequencies.

00:48:35.000 Is that due to the sunspot interference?

00:48:38.000 Look, I don't know what's going on.

00:48:40.000 I mean, it's coming in better during the day now and worse at night.

00:48:43.000 Yeah, I'm hearing it fine now at 90, 91, 20 I think.

00:48:47.000 93, 20.

00:48:48.000 93, 20, yeah.

00:48:51.000 But at night, there's a lot of hissing and static and a noise that cuts in and out.

00:48:59.000 It sounds like My electric shaver running.

00:49:01.000 Yeah, I'm sorry, we'll try to look into that.

00:49:04.000 Thanks for the call, Bill.

00:49:05.000 Mike in Virginia.

00:49:06.000 Mike, you're on the air.

00:49:07.000 Go ahead.

00:49:09.000 Good to talk to you, Mike.

00:49:11.000 Good to talk to you, buddy.

00:49:12.000 I got a couple quick points maybe you can relate on.

00:49:17.000 The first one is, a friend of mine and I down here in Virginia, we put your bumper stickers up in, I call them non-inclusive places, you know where they I don't put them on the front of signs, but I'll put them on the back of stop signs and I'll hand them out.

00:49:33.000 We've even had business cards made up with InfoWars.com on it saying that it's documented and we hand them out.

00:49:42.000 Maybe your listeners might mention sometime where they learned about InfoWars.com from that we might develop a scenario that is more effective and we could You know, put more of that out there, whether it's like my friend does the videos, he copies them and we hand them out.

00:50:04.000 I learned about you years ago on shortwave when you first came on.

00:50:07.000 I was a shortwave listener and I've been listening to you now for Oh, five plus years, I guess.

00:50:13.000 Well, I mean, we get the feedback.

00:50:15.000 AM FM stations, places where I've been on as a guest, is one of the biggest.

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00:50:21.000 And a lot of it is people making copies of the videos and handing them out to people.

00:50:25.000 That's probably about 30% of it.

00:50:28.000 You were on AM here at one time, and that station was quickly bought out.

00:50:34.000 You know, they went to a format that... I've probably been on a hundred stations that get bought.

00:50:39.000 It's kind of an inside joke, but if you want to sell your station for more, put me on for a year and you'll suddenly get millions more for it.

00:50:45.000 Yeah, it's probably more than a joke.

00:50:47.000 And the other point was, you know, when I... Tell you what, stay there.

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00:50:52.000 Stay there, Mike.

00:50:54.000 Then Laura in Alabama and others, we got some guests coming on as well.

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00:54:11.000 We've had our tolerances raised to corruption.

00:54:14.000 Again, if Bill Clinton tried to cut Taiwan loose and change the policy of defending them and being pro-independence, it would have been, oh, how dare him?

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00:54:59.000 Oh no, we don't have criminals running things, folks. 0.99

00:55:03.000 And it's just like, well, Bush is a good conservative.

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00:57:22.000 He had one more question.

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00:57:34.000 Let's go ahead and let Mike in Virginia finish up.

00:57:37.000 You had one more question.

00:57:38.000 Go ahead, Mike.

00:57:39.000 Actually, it was just kind of a point maybe to help your listeners also.

00:57:42.000 I live here in the Navy area, Norfolk, Virginia, and when I engage in conversations with people, a lot of them in the military, you know, they're nice people per se, and I generally, you know, discuss world events.

00:57:55.000 I start with, well, how many wars have we been in since World War II?

00:57:59.000 And while they're trying to figure out that answer, I just ask them, well, how many have we won?

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01:00:16.000 All right, my friends.

01:00:18.000 Already into the second hour of this global transmission.

01:00:22.000 Defending liberty, resisting tyranny.

01:00:25.000 In the third hour of this show, we've got Congressman Tom Tancredo coming on to talk about Bush and Homeland Security dictator Ridge saying, hey, total legalization.

01:00:38.000 The White House now made it official yesterday.

01:00:40.000 Yeah, we want total legalization of all illegals. 0.90

01:00:43.000 Pan-American Union, you name it.

01:00:45.000 Did we mention gun control is conservative?

01:00:48.000 Big four guns is communism. 0.97

01:00:50.000 It's basically what it's come to in this country if you're a filthy neocon.

01:00:54.000 Coming up, we're going to get into CIA assassination squads with one of the premier experts, Douglas Valentine, and that's in the next segment.

01:01:04.000 Right now, let's go back to the calls.

01:01:07.000 Let's talk to Laura in Alabama, then Robert, Stan, and others.

01:01:11.000 Laura, you're on the air.

01:01:13.000 Hello.

01:01:14.000 Yes, I'm presently involved to some extent with the Second Amendment Committee with Bernadine Smith.

01:01:20.000 Yes.

01:01:21.000 And her website is libertygunrights.com.

01:01:23.000 You can download a bunch of material in there, and a lot of it can be mailed to the state legislatures in your own state, the governor, the secretary of state, and the state attorney general.

01:01:33.000 I need to get Bernadine Smith back on.

01:01:35.000 She's a great lady.

01:01:37.000 She probably explained some of this on many of her shows.

01:01:41.000 One of the articles is how our government was taken over, and a lot of material on unconstitutional federal activities, and the ability of the states to override the federal government.

01:01:51.000 And it's acts and state preemption.

01:01:54.000 There's a lot of material.

01:01:55.000 Hey, what do you think of the NRA lawyer arguing last month that all guns should be registered and not allowed to leave the house?

01:02:04.000 Well, that was part of that act they tried to pass earlier in the year, the Holt Act.

01:02:11.000 HR 124, it was very similar to that.

01:02:13.000 But you know, the NRA is for total gun registration in a federal lawsuit.

01:02:18.000 That sounds real conservative.

01:02:20.000 Yes, it's kind of scary.

01:02:22.000 What do you think about them keeping a DNA database on every baby when they're born, taking blood and giving it to the feds? 0.70

01:02:27.000 That's now admitted.

01:02:28.000 Illegally, they've been doing it.

01:02:30.000 Well, again, it's unconstitutional and they override everything. 0.96

01:02:37.000 They're absolute criminals.

01:02:41.000 I don't know if it's too late to mail this material out and get the congressman and the governor to say, we're not going to take this anymore.

01:02:51.000 It's never too late to fight back against tyranny.

01:02:54.000 If people like you and Bernadine Smith and myself and others weren't out there fighting, we'd be in a lot worse trouble right now.

01:03:00.000 I think the states have to take united action on their own, individual states, to correct the problem.

01:03:05.000 One state may be ahead of another, and Tennessee is ahead of Alabama.

01:03:09.000 And, uh, we're working on Georgia and Florida right now.

01:03:11.000 There's some people down there they have to work within their own state.

01:03:15.000 Each state has to work... The people that are in each state have to work with their own, uh, legislators.

01:03:21.000 We need to repeal gun laws, not have more of them passed. 0.58

01:03:26.000 That's right, and the Second Amendment should, uh, cancel out anything that comes I agree with you. 0.94

01:03:35.000 Thanks for the call, Laura.

01:03:37.000 Robert, you're on the air.

01:03:38.000 Where are you calling from?

01:03:39.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

01:03:41.000 I'm calling from Denver.

01:03:43.000 I've got your DVD, 911.

01:03:43.000 Thank you.

01:03:48.000 One hour, seven minutes into the movie, you can actually see the blast and detonation of World Trade No.

01:03:56.000 2.

01:03:57.000 You can actually see it.

01:03:58.000 Freeze frame it and see the inside explosion that brings the building down.

01:04:03.000 Yeah, a lot of folks have pointed that out.

01:04:05.000 That was a supposed video no one had seen.

01:04:07.000 It's in the film.

01:04:08.000 I've never seen that, Alex, ever.

01:04:10.000 We were taping that day and caught that.

01:04:12.000 I have never seen that before anywhere and it's unequivocal proof that you've got them.

01:04:20.000 That's all I can... I mean, you've got them.

01:04:22.000 You can actually see the blast go off inside the building from the inside out and then the towers collapse.

01:04:28.000 Um, I also know you're going to have Tann Clayto coming up here, and um... Hey, I tell you what, stay there Robert.

01:04:35.000 I'm getting my guest on now, but he can hold just a second.

01:04:37.000 I'm going to let you come back and finish up.

01:04:39.000 And we'll go to calls early in this hour with our guest.

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01:08:24.000 Got a guest coming up a little bit later in this hour about the CIA and assassination squads.

01:08:28.000 Right now, let's go back to Robert in California, in Colorado.

01:08:31.000 Boy, I'm kind of off today.

01:08:33.000 In Denver, talking about an hour and seven minutes in the road to tyranny.

01:08:40.000 You can see the blast going off symmetrically down the building.

01:08:45.000 And a lot of people have seen the video on Road to Tyranny and the video that was on the news.

01:08:49.000 You can clearly see the blast points, the explosions going off down at the seismographs.

01:08:54.000 Pick that up.

01:08:55.000 And if you're saying, oh no, the jet fuel did it.

01:08:57.000 Well, the firefighters said the fires were almost out.

01:09:00.000 They were up there in the floors that were hit by the aircraft.

01:09:03.000 Bush declared national security on that, ordered him not to talk.

01:09:06.000 That's been in the New York Daily News.

01:09:07.000 Grabbed the audio traffic tapes, not before a transcript was released of the radio transmissions, the emergency transmission transcripts, with the firefighter saying there were bombs in there, and then reporting that explosions were going off.

01:09:23.000 So, what about Building 7?

01:09:25.000 It wasn't even hit by an aircraft.

01:09:27.000 But it collapsed.

01:09:29.000 But while we're getting our guest on, let's let Robert in Colorado finish up.

01:09:33.000 Go ahead, Robert.

01:09:34.000 Yes, like I've reiterated, you can see it crystal clear as day.

01:09:39.000 You can see a massive explosion.

01:09:41.000 The building is smoldering, basically.

01:09:43.000 It's just smoldering.

01:09:44.000 Black smoke coming out.

01:09:45.000 Not a lot.

01:09:46.000 All of a sudden, there's a massive orange fireball and the building just comes down.

01:09:51.000 It's about one or two seconds.

01:09:53.000 If you're showing it tomorrow, freeze frame it.

01:09:55.000 Everybody will get a good look at that one.

01:09:57.000 And totally kind of shocked me.

01:09:59.000 I've been looking at it for the last couple of hours yesterday and I couldn't believe it.

01:10:03.000 Well, I hope you'll make copies of Road to Tyranny and hand it out to folks.

01:10:07.000 Sure.

01:10:08.000 I mean, people have got to wake up.

01:10:10.000 This is just unbelievable.

01:10:13.000 Also, I know you're having Congressman Tan Credo on here, and I have some major problems with the Congressman.

01:10:19.000 Um, when he's going against the illegal aliens, but then he did a telethon for them, a fundraiser for an illegal alien family and raised them a quarter of a million dollars for a child's opera.

01:10:31.000 See, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but I'm in Denver.

01:10:33.000 Yeah, I was aware of it.

01:10:34.000 I, uh, I'm just, I just think he's a total fake and a phony and he's trying to get reelected any way he can now because he's on the clear channel network plugging for himself saying, oh, I made a terrible mistake.

01:10:45.000 Well, if you're making mistakes like that, Congressman, we don't need you in office.

01:10:50.000 We need people that are serious about this country.

01:10:53.000 Let me get in before you, Alex, real quick.

01:10:56.000 I look at his legislation that he puts in.

01:10:58.000 It's a lot of school legislation, like the lockdown you just saw in South Carolina.

01:11:02.000 He's promoting that kind of school legislation after Columbine.

01:11:07.000 That's all he's really done.

01:11:09.000 And I don't like what he's doing.

01:11:11.000 I think for him to come on this radio show is kind of a shill, and he really needs to explain to you and the listeners what he is exactly doing. 0.84

01:11:19.000 Well, I suggest this.

01:11:20.000 I suggest you call back when he's on with us.

01:11:23.000 I mean, I just want, if I'm not able to, just ask him a couple tough questions, like why he did a fundraiser and raised a fundraiser for an illegal alien for some organs.

01:11:23.000 Okay.

01:11:34.000 But here's the point.

01:11:35.000 It's a human being.

01:11:37.000 The problem is that we have open borders, driving down the wages, NAFTA, GATT, and now Bush wants to totally legalize all of them.

01:11:45.000 And I know Bush has put Tancredo on his political hit list, like he did Senator Bob Smith and Ron Paul.

01:11:51.000 That's a good sign for Tom Tancredo that Bush is after him.

01:11:55.000 Okay, granted that.

01:11:56.000 I still want to know what he's doing, though, about this.

01:12:00.000 Because you've highlighted the fact that you have Mexican troops coming into the country kidnapping people.

01:12:06.000 We're going to talk about that.

01:12:07.000 What are these Senators in Texas and Arizona and New Mexico doing?

01:12:10.000 I don't understand what's going on here and why nobody in politics is doing anything about it.

01:12:16.000 Well I thought about doing a broadcast in front of the Mexican Consulate next week concerning the kidnapping of five American citizens by Mexican troops and the news media almost completely ignoring it.

01:12:26.000 Thanks for the call.

01:12:27.000 Thank you very much.

01:12:28.000 And by the way, they came across our border to do it.

01:12:30.000 They kill federal police all the time, state police, border patrol.

01:12:35.000 They kill forestry service agents. 0.99

01:12:37.000 They kidnap, they rape, they kill. 1.00

01:12:39.000 I mean, the Mexican troops are notoriously corrupt narco-terrorists. 0.96

01:12:44.000 And that article is out of the Associated Press.

01:12:47.000 They're in Arizona.

01:12:48.000 They've been killing people.

01:12:49.000 They come across the border in Texas, kidnap people.

01:12:52.000 It's out of control.

01:12:53.000 Alright, I know we got a lot of callers.

01:12:54.000 Your calls are coming up a little bit later in this hour, so stay with us.

01:12:57.000 Douglas Valentine has written a bunch of books.

01:13:00.000 Douglas Valentine is an author, researcher, investigator, consultant, critic, and poet.

01:13:05.000 And he is joining us.

01:13:08.000 And back in 1990, he wrote the book, The Phoenix Project.

01:13:11.000 And he has some new breaking news on CIA assassin teams.

01:13:15.000 And we've seen the media He's preparing the ground, softening us up on shows like 24, where the CIA torture leader, played by Keither Sutherland, tortures and kills everybody, and he's such a good guy because he does it.

01:13:28.000 On the show Threat Matrix, torture is on every episode.

01:13:30.000 Torture is now a new American value.

01:13:33.000 Assassination squads are loving.

01:13:35.000 If you're a drug dealer, you're arrested for terrorism, your children are taken.

01:13:39.000 All over the media, all over the culture, they're selling this to us, and they're torturing people in Afghanistan and Iraq, at Guantanamo Bay, they're torturing them to death.

01:13:47.000 This is all admitted, they fly into Egypt, and other countries for torture, and it is pure evil. 0.95

01:13:53.000 Our government took Joseph Mingla in, he helped train the CIA in torture, helped set up what is the School of America today, Klaus Barbie dealt drugs for them, Bardo Ron Braun ran our missiles, but joining us is Douglas Valentine. 0.54

01:14:07.000 Douglas, thanks for coming on the show.

01:14:08.000 Well, you're very welcome, and thank you for inviting me on.

01:14:12.000 Tell us a little bit about yourself and your background, as I would call you a great journalist, and what the CIA's up to with hit teams, and how this is being sold now, coming out in the open with the American people.

01:14:25.000 Okay, just quickly, I wrote my first book about my father, who was a prisoner of war in World War II at a Japanese camp, and so I got to learn About the harsh realities of war, a soldier fighting the Japanese in World War II learned all about that, and being a prisoner of the Japanese, he was in an extraordinary situation, and he survived.

01:14:55.000 He came out with a feeling of affinity more with Vietnam veterans.

01:15:04.000 Which he developed over the years with World War II veterans, because his experience as a prisoner of war in a Japanese camp wasn't something that he could talk about.

01:15:16.000 And I got interested, after I wrote that book about my father being a prisoner of war, I got interested in, well, what really happened in Vietnam?

01:15:24.000 What was it really all about?

01:15:27.000 What were the secret operations that went on?

01:15:31.000 And I started poking around, and I went to a veterans hospital in New Hampshire where I live, and I asked the director, well, do you have any Vietnam veterans here who are involved in secret operations?

01:15:42.000 And he said, I got a guy who was in the Phoenix program, and I had never heard about that.

01:15:48.000 And I asked if I could interview the guy, and he said he'd set it up, but the guy wouldn't talk to me.

01:15:55.000 He was afraid that if he talked to me about being in Phoenix, that the government would take away his veterans' benefits.

01:16:01.000 And that got me really interested.

01:16:02.000 I mean, why would a... And this guy's been in Special Forces.

01:16:06.000 Why would a vet... Why are veterans, why were veterans, people who were in the Army and fought for the country, so afraid about telling the truth about this Phoenix program thing?

01:16:15.000 Well, let me just stop you for a second.

01:16:17.000 I can't say much about this on air because it involves family.

01:16:22.000 And you know Admiral Moore went public about the nerve gas on the carriers dropped by the jets.

01:16:27.000 If our troops were captured they would just nerve gas them?

01:16:31.000 That's right.

01:16:32.000 But I've talked to people, family, who were in Vietnam, on missions into Laos, and watching other missions going on, that they witnessed, where they were told to put on their gas masks, where they were Operation Sawdust, dusting, and I can't say much more about that.

01:16:53.000 You know what Moore said on the record, but go ahead.

01:16:56.000 Well, what we're doing is, what's happening, and it's been happening since the Vietnam War, Is through this operations like the Phoenix Program, in which the CIA sent soldiers, U.S.

01:17:08.000 Army soldiers, out into the field to assassinate civilians.

01:17:13.000 Okay, that's what the Phoenix Program was about.

01:17:16.000 It was created by the CIA in 1967, and it was run by the CIA by itself for the first two years, but in 1969 they started bringing in regular soldiers.

01:17:29.000 And the job was to go out and to assassinate the civilians who were leading the insurgency.

01:17:36.000 Now, one congressman likened it to Lincoln sending soldiers into the South to assassinate the mayors of Macon, Georgia, and all the other cities.

01:17:48.000 I mean, you know, assassinating politicians in time of war, which is what the Germans did in France and stuff, is a war crime. 0.56

01:17:56.000 All right, and the whole Phoenix Program concept is based on the idea that the only way you can really destroy your enemy is capacity to fight it, to go out and kill the civilians who are leading the insurgency or whatever.

01:18:15.000 Now, this is what they're proposing.

01:18:17.000 This is what Rumsfeld supposedly has just proposed to start doing in Iraq.

01:18:23.000 Well, we know they've always been doing it.

01:18:26.000 And now they're putting barbed wire around whole towns.

01:18:32.000 Yeah, and these are things that are being done by soldiers.

01:18:34.000 Now, since Vietnam, what's been happening is we've been creating a culture, and you hit the nail right on the head when you said torture and assassination are becoming de rigueur.

01:18:49.000 You know, I mean, it's like It's like chic now to be a torturer or an assassin.

01:18:54.000 Slowly, over the last 20-30 years, the American population has been propagandized to believe that it's okay for us to go out and do these things.

01:19:07.000 And my point in writing this book about the Phoenix Program and trying to wake people up about it is that what happens is that the average soldiers who get 19, 20, 21-year-old boys And now girls, who get caught up in this stuff, and they're like, are sent into Iraq, and they're told to put bombed wire around villages, and put bullets on the heads of civilians, and demolish their homes, and to assassinate them in the middle of the night.

01:19:35.000 This is gonna screw them up for the rest of their lives!

01:19:39.000 When they come out of the military, and they come back home, Stay there, sir. 0.72

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01:24:05.000 We're talking about the nature of evil.

01:24:08.000 But to be more to the point, how they twist the minds of well-meaning men and now women in the military.

01:24:16.000 And our guest is Douglas Valentine.

01:24:17.000 He's an expert on the Phoenix Project and government torture and the twisting of our government and our people.

01:24:25.000 And he got into studying torture and this stuff because he wrote a book about his father who was a prisoner of war in a Japanese prison camp, and they were extremely brutal, but I guess by American standards now, it's a patriotic, loving, good thing to do what they did.

01:24:39.000 Of course, I'm being sarcastic, and he mentioned before the break, these people are coming home.

01:24:44.000 Remember, four members of a Delta Force unit came back from Afghanistan?

01:24:50.000 Came home and murdered their wives?

01:24:55.000 Uh, I guess if you're against murdering the wives, you're for Al-Qaeda. 1.00

01:24:58.000 I mean, this is kind of where the whole mindset goes.

01:25:01.000 And, uh, they're finding either the sociopaths or the psychopaths or the well-meaning Dudley Do-Rights to do this, who then break down later in life.

01:25:10.000 Uh, and we've had a lot of calls to this show by a lot of people on the street.

01:25:16.000 If you were involved in Phoenix Project or other projects, you want to get involved on air, or you know people who were, or you saw this in Vietnam, or some of the other covert actions in Latin America, 1-800-259-9231.

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01:25:32.000 And our guest's website is douglasvalentine.com.

01:25:40.000 DouglasValentine.com.

01:25:41.000 We have a link to his website at InfoWars.com.

01:25:46.000 Douglas, continuing with a point that you were making, go ahead.

01:25:50.000 Okay.

01:25:51.000 I wrote a book, this book called The Phoenix Program, in 1990.

01:25:56.000 And the last few sentences in my introduction, This book is about terror and its role in political warfare.

01:26:05.000 It will show how, as successive American governments sink deeper and deeper into the vortex of covert operations to combat terrorism and communist insurgencies, the American people gradually lose touch with the democratic ideals that once defined their national self-concept.

01:26:25.000 This book asks, what happens when Phoenix comes home to Roots?

01:26:29.000 Well, guess what, Alex?

01:26:31.000 Phoenix has come home, in a big way, and the Bush regime has now said that the Phoenix program, which is this idea of going out and assassinating civilians, not soldiers, but the civilians that we don't like, It's going to be the main weapon in the global war on terrorism.

01:26:51.000 Well, they've also said they're getting rid of Posse Common Tautus, the head of NORTHCOM.

01:26:54.000 General Eberhardt has said this.

01:26:56.000 Well, that's what I'm saying to you.

01:26:58.000 Phoenix is coming home to roost, as you see, because they're using this phony war on terrorism.

01:27:04.000 They're going around the world and they're creating enemies.

01:27:06.000 Out of thin air.

01:27:07.000 Well, Douglas, I have a London Guardian yesterday where MI5 has now been caught red-handed carrying out most of the bombings in England to blame it on their enemies.

01:27:17.000 You know, take the movie The Quiet American, where they're blowing stuff up to blame it on their enemies.

01:27:21.000 This is their favorite tactic.

01:27:23.000 I wrote an article about, a review about, you know, when the movie came out, The Quiet American was one of my favorite books, and for the people who don't know, it was the CIA in 1954 that was Setting off bombs in Saigon and blaming it on the Communists so that the military could come in and intervene.

01:27:43.000 And it's not just MI5, I mean, this is the thing that the CIA does best.

01:27:47.000 By the way, did you know the government pressured the makers of that to cut some scenes out?

01:27:51.000 I wonder what was cut out.

01:27:53.000 Yeah, well, they got their point across, thank God.

01:27:56.000 You know, and there's a lot of pressure.

01:27:58.000 And here, every book, it's hard, it's really incredibly hard for writers and journalists nowadays to tell the truth, because the CIA, through the Homeland

01:28:10.000 Security apparatus, has wormed its way into the film industry and the book industry, and

01:28:18.000 every avenue that Americans once had of expressing their individuality is now being

01:28:30.000 censored.

01:28:32.000 It's all part of the Phoenix program concept.

01:28:36.000 Doug, a month ago, hundreds of fake news articles, letters from troops, posted with false signatures in newspapers.

01:28:44.000 That's the CIA engaging in domestic propaganda.

01:28:47.000 It's called psychological warfare.

01:28:47.000 That's right.

01:28:50.000 Black operations. 0.92

01:28:51.000 And we're succumbing so deeply into it, and yet Most people are buying it.

01:28:58.000 It's a bill of goods.

01:28:59.000 But if you look at, you know, most of your listeners probably aren't buying it, but most Americans are buying it lock, stock, and barrel.

01:29:09.000 And what do you do to overcome it?

01:29:11.000 How can you overcome it?

01:29:12.000 Because every day, the government's getting more and more powerful, and the individual society It's losing more and more rights to fight back.

01:29:23.000 Uh, Doug, wasn't it, uh, Phoenix where they had the old zoo, using it to torture people?

01:29:29.000 Uh, they started that right in 1954.

01:29:31.000 That was even before, that was even before being... Well, let's talk about, let's talk about torture.

01:29:37.000 It was bad when Joseph Mingala did it, but it's good when we do it.

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01:33:07.000 It was bad when Saddam Hussein would torture people.

01:33:10.000 It's bad when Joseph Mingala does it, or Stalin, or Mao Zedong, or Pol Pot, or Fidel Castro.

01:33:17.000 But it's good when we do it.

01:33:19.000 It's a new virtue.

01:33:21.000 I've got articles.

01:33:22.000 Terrorism and the war on terrorism.

01:33:25.000 Torture, the new virtue.

01:33:27.000 Law enforcement magazines before 9-11.

01:33:30.000 Well, maybe torture's needed.

01:33:32.000 Yeah, let's legitimize its use.

01:33:35.000 Corrupt police for many years have tortured people for confessions, and now it's just becoming part of our culture, the mass twisting of our minds.

01:33:44.000 But another example is a lot of your major metropolitan police departments, starting with LA and New York in the 60s, were taken over by the CIA.

01:33:53.000 Did you know that?

01:33:54.000 Oh, that's admitted now.

01:33:55.000 And they'll have former CIA guys, former FBI, becoming most of our sheriffs and county judges.

01:34:01.000 They're taking over quietly. 0.99

01:34:04.000 And then they deal drugs on the side and run the whores. 1.00

01:34:08.000 It's organized crime! 0.97

01:34:10.000 Like the FBI running the hit squads all over the country, framing innocent people.

01:34:16.000 Jagger Hoover saying there is no Lacosa Nostra, there's no mafia.

01:34:19.000 Yeah, because he was the head of it.

01:34:21.000 Now, for listeners that want to talk about this, people that were involved in this, people that have points they want to add, or questions they have for Douglas Valentine, we're going to take your calls here in a few minutes on this live Friday edition 1-800-259-9231.

01:34:33.000 Does it upset you?

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01:34:34.000 two five nine ninety two thirty one

01:34:38.000 that's one eight hundred two five nine nine two three one does it upset you how many newscasts you see where they

01:34:44.000 promote torture you know in my film police state three total enslavement

01:34:48.000 dot dot i have some little news clips where they're going well we

01:34:52.000 are torturing people uh... but

01:34:54.000 how about torturing their children This, I mean, it's getting... Well, the Soviets did this, but they did it underground, quietly. 0.76

01:35:04.000 Now we just announce it.

01:35:06.000 What's happened to us?

01:35:08.000 We've lost touch with our identity as people who once The one thing that once made America great is that people thought they could get a fair shake here.

01:35:18.000 They ran away from despotic countries where they were under the heel of dictators and they didn't have a vote or whatever, and they came to the United States because they thought they could get a fair shake here.

01:35:30.000 And even if they were, you know, for a first generation or two, you know, laughed at because they had an Italian accent or something, eventually they got into, you know, and they became part of American society, and it was worth

01:35:46.000 But all that started to change when we created the CIA.

01:35:46.000 it.

01:35:50.000 And the CIA, like you said, and I've got to admit, you're the most knowledgeable talk show host I've ever had an

01:35:56.000 interview with.

01:35:56.000 When the CIA actually took over organized crime, and what you had was the intelligence and security agencies of the

01:36:04.000 United States government using the mafia and organized crime to carry out its agenda

01:36:13.000 on behalf of the ruling wealthy elite.

01:36:16.000 Because you've got to remember that the CIA has its bosses too, and their names are people like Rockefeller and Mellon

01:36:24.000 and Morgan and all the really wealthy people.

01:36:26.000 Yeah, it was founded out of the Ivy League.

01:36:28.000 That's right. Okay, well, it started becoming this whole idea that you could...

01:36:34.000 Torture people and it was okay.

01:36:36.000 That became institutionalized in the Phoenix program.

01:36:40.000 The Phoenix program in Vietnam was based on two foundation stones.

01:36:44.000 Well, let's go back to the zoo and the torture, because that's a foundation stone.

01:36:48.000 Well, that was something that the CIA... Yeah, I mean, there was a zoo in Saigon, and they had in one of the administrative buildings there a basement.

01:36:59.000 And because they wanted... That's where the CIA initially carried out Well, in league with the secret police who work for the DM, that's where they carried out their secret interrogation so that nobody would know what was going on.

01:37:15.000 I mean, the whole thing has to be done in secret.

01:37:18.000 You pick somebody up in the middle of the night, you know, you scarf them up, you take them to one of these places, you work them over until he rats out his friends or he becomes a double agent, or he dies!

01:37:30.000 Okay?

01:37:31.000 But then, that place wasn't big enough.

01:37:34.000 To handle everybody that they were scarfing up.

01:37:37.000 So, starting in 1964, what the CIA did was it built a secret interrogation center in every province in Vietnam, and there were 44 provinces, and they were like a state in the United States.

01:37:50.000 And as a footnote, you can be sure the same thing's going on right now in the United States, through FEMA and the CIA.

01:37:56.000 They're building their own secret interrogation centers right here.

01:38:00.000 But anyway, Those province interrogation centers were staffed by CIA officers, and they were one of the foundation stones of the Phoenix program.

01:38:11.000 That's where people were brought to be interrogated, and then, based on the information that they got out of these people, they would send out the hit teams, and the hit teams were the other foundation stones.

01:38:23.000 Okay.

01:38:26.000 In 1971, a really tough congressman from California named Pete McCloskey went to Vietnam.

01:38:33.000 McCloskey had been in the Korean War, and he barged his way into one of these CIA interrogation centers, and some tough CIA guy tried to intimidate McCloskey, and McCloskey just laughed at him.

01:38:45.000 You know, he'd been in combat, and he didn't care.

01:38:47.000 Anyway, and that's when the truth came tumbling out about these interrogation centers that

01:38:53.000 the CIA had set up all over South Vietnam, and which of course they're setting up all 0.99

01:38:58.000 over Iraq, and Afghanistan, and everywhere else.

01:39:02.000 And at the time, McCloskey held congressional hearings in 1971, and he said that what the

01:39:08.000 CIA was doing violated the Geneva Convention, which guarantees civilians due process during

01:39:18.000 time of law.

01:39:19.000 And now the enemy combatant Patriot Act 1 and 2, Victory Act 1 and 2, which whether it's

01:39:24.000 passed or not, it's all being implemented, the only passed piece of legislation.

01:39:27.000 That's right! Not only are we taking away due process rights for...

01:39:32.000 And when Hirsch came out with his article last week in the New Yorker that the Phoenix program is going to be

01:39:38.000 implemented in Iraq, that's what they've done. They've decided to take away due 0.97

01:39:44.000 process for half the people, if not all the people, in Iraq.

01:39:48.000 But see, now, also, if you notice the nomenclature, everybody, the governments attacking and fighting aren't

01:39:55.000 enemy forces, they're now terrorists, so, oh, they're under the new

01:39:59.000 definition, they're lower than human, they're subhuman in Iraq, we had them... 1.00

01:40:04.000 Uh, killing a bunch of people, but in Afghanistan, they'd pack thousands in containers, half would die from supplication, they'd line them up and shoot them, 3,000, 2,000 at a time. 0.75

01:40:13.000 They admit they've got interrogation centers, they're bringing dead bodies out every week.

01:40:18.000 Oh, they committed suicide!

01:40:19.000 I mean, this is amazing!

01:40:21.000 And in Vietnam, anybody was a terrorist who ended up on the CIA's Phoenix blacklist.

01:40:26.000 Now, that could be, if you were a policeman, or you had a friend who was a policeman, It could be your neighbor because his dog was pissing on your yard.

01:40:35.000 You know, all of a sudden, you're mad at him, so you become an informant and you tell the police, well, yeah, my neighbor's a terrorist.

01:40:42.000 So his name goes on the blacklist, and boom, he's gone.

01:40:46.000 Hey, Doug, Doug, I'm not mad at you.

01:40:48.000 I've read some of your research in one of your books.

01:40:48.000 You're a great guy.

01:40:50.000 You're wonderful, but we have a lot of homeschoolers that listen, a lot of Christian stations.

01:40:54.000 I'm curious.

01:40:54.000 I want to tell you and all the listeners, Uh, let's, let's, let's be very, we're addressing thousands of school children.

01:41:01.000 I know, I'm not mad at you, we just gotta be careful there.

01:41:04.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

01:41:05.000 No, no, no, that's fine sir, I apologize for even having to gripe at you.

01:41:08.000 But listen, uh, fast forwarding through the history of this now, through today, because I want to go to some calls.

01:41:18.000 Fast-forwarding through the history, so we have this in Vietnam, McCloskey comes in and complains, shoves the thugs aside, comes back, talks about the Geneva Convention, fast-forwarding the day.

01:41:28.000 The CIA completely countered his arguments by saying that the Geneva Conventions only

01:41:35.000 apply to sentencing for crimes, and they don't prohibit a state from interning civilians

01:41:42.000 or subjecting them to emergency detention when such measures are necessary for the security

01:41:48.000 or safety of the state.

01:41:49.000 So as long as you just, as soon as you, fast forward, as soon as you declare a global war

01:41:55.000 on terror, you're in effect eliminating due process for everybody.

01:42:03.000 Yeah, we're now under martial law.

01:42:04.000 It's what degree... We're now under martial law, that's right.

01:42:06.000 It's what degree of it is are we under.

01:42:09.000 Did you see the LA Times article two weeks ago with General Eberhardt, the head of North Common Colorado Springs?

01:42:15.000 We were on the radio, by the way.

01:42:16.000 And he said, well, we are under the extraordinary definition right now, which is full military control.

01:42:23.000 So we're under extraordinary.

01:42:24.000 There's three levels.

01:42:26.000 Temporary, extreme, and extraordinary.

01:42:29.000 We're now under extraordinary.

01:42:31.000 Yeah, well, and as soon as we have the next incident, and whether it's a Ferran, you know, breakout in a subway, or it's another bombing somewhere, and this next event, whatever it is, is preordained.

01:42:48.000 It's going to happen.

01:42:49.000 And that's what's next.

01:42:50.000 It's going to happen as sure as the sun's going to come up tomorrow.

01:42:53.000 We're going to go to the next level.

01:42:55.000 And Tommy Franks already said, we're only one step away from martial law in this country.

01:43:01.000 Well I will say, you're a very knowledgeable guest, because again, you're one step ahead of me with that.

01:43:07.000 Everywhere they're now acclimating us.

01:43:09.000 We even have the news media memos saying, acclimate folks to martial law.

01:43:14.000 It's a good thing.

01:43:15.000 Oh yeah, sure.

01:43:18.000 Like, we should give up our freedom?

01:43:21.000 And that's a good thing?

01:43:22.000 I don't think so.

01:43:24.000 We won't be America anymore if we give up our freedom.

01:43:27.000 And we've already given up a lot of it, and we're not really the America that our fathers and mothers lived in, that's for sure.

01:43:34.000 All right, let's take some calls.

01:43:35.000 We'll get more into this, sir.

01:43:36.000 I'm honored to have you, Douglas Valentine.

01:43:38.000 We'll have to even have you back on in the future.

01:43:40.000 We'll go to Scott in Hawaii, Patrick, Texas, Roy, Michigan, Albert, Colorado, and others.

01:43:46.000 Scott in Hawaii, you're on the air.

01:43:47.000 Go ahead.

01:43:48.000 Hey Alex, how are you doing today?

01:43:49.000 I'm pretty good.

01:43:51.000 I don't mean to digress from what you and your guest are discussing, but Alex, I've got a question for you.

01:43:58.000 When was the last time you tried to fly, you know, cross-country to another state, you know, obviously in a plane, you know, and get a ticket?

01:44:06.000 My point is, and please forgive me, because I love what you're doing, but my first inclination is, how do we know you're not working from the inside for these people?

01:44:19.000 I'm serious.

01:44:20.000 No, no, that's fine, but how does that tie into flying on planes?

01:44:24.000 Because they wouldn't allow you to travel.

01:44:27.000 Because you'd be on the terror watch list, and you would be denied your rights for travel.

01:44:35.000 Sir, you've made an accusation, or you've questioned something, so let me answer you, okay?

01:44:42.000 Please, please.

01:44:42.000 Okay, stay there, Scott.

01:44:45.000 In Hawaii.

01:44:46.000 I flew to L.A.

01:44:47.000 a couple months ago.

01:44:49.000 And I am totally left alone by the establishment.

01:44:52.000 I'm pulled over by APD.

01:44:54.000 When they see it's Alex Jones, they say, get out of here and walk away.

01:45:01.000 They let me fly.

01:45:02.000 They do not let Green Party officials fly.

01:45:05.000 They do not let some of the anti-war demonstrators fly.

01:45:08.000 And then they got sued over it.

01:45:09.000 They quit doing that about six months ago, as far as I know.

01:45:13.000 Now, to answer your question, The way you know if somebody's a Fed is, this is what they do.

01:45:18.000 Now let me just tell you what they do, because I've studied COINTELPRO.

01:45:21.000 I have been the victim of it years ago.

01:45:23.000 I have stopped provocateurs at rallies and demonstrations against the Fortune 500, against land grabs.

01:45:29.000 I've been at right-wing, left-wing demonstrations.

01:45:32.000 If it's something I agree with, I'll go demonstrate.

01:45:34.000 Now let me tell you something.

01:45:35.000 Now listen carefully.

01:45:36.000 Okay?

01:45:36.000 And I've made films about this.

01:45:38.000 And Doug, I appreciate you holding while I digress over this.

01:45:41.000 And then you can comment.

01:45:43.000 It's a very important question.

01:45:45.000 A government agent or provocateur will sow seeds of distrust saying everyone's an operative.

01:45:51.000 A government operative will want everyone to sneak around in the dark, will try to sow paranoia, will try to get you to call for violence.

01:45:59.000 We'll try to get you to call for, it's time to start shooting.

01:46:03.000 That's what a Fed will say.

01:46:05.000 A Fed doesn't get on the air for nine years.

01:46:05.000 Okay?

01:46:09.000 Let me finish.

01:46:11.000 A Fed doesn't get on the air for nine years, make powerful films, Exposing the terrorism of the military-industrial complex, doesn't do thousands of radio interviews on other stations, doesn't tell people that they have to be leaders, and to take over the grassroots, and to remove the electronic voting machines, and to say no to the vaccines, and to eat organic food.

01:46:35.000 Feds, and if you look at all the stings they've done, because it always comes out after they do it, they sneak around stirring up distrust, Getting people to build pipe bombs so they can bust them. 0.96

01:46:48.000 A Fed doesn't get on an alternative radio network and tell people to fight the corruption and to get involved and that you have power and that you can affect change.

01:47:01.000 Okay?

01:47:02.000 Does that answer your question?

01:47:03.000 And here's something else.

01:47:04.000 We're all on one list.

01:47:05.000 You ever subscribed to a gun magazine?

01:47:07.000 Ever subscribed to High Times?

01:47:09.000 Ever subscribed to a gardening magazine?

01:47:12.000 Ever subscribed to a Baptist publication?

01:47:16.000 To a Quaker publication?

01:47:18.000 Ever subscribed to alternative energy publications?

01:47:22.000 Ever did anything?

01:47:24.000 Have any military training?

01:47:26.000 You're on a list.

01:47:27.000 And here's the point.

01:47:29.000 We're waking up the police.

01:47:30.000 We're waking up the military.

01:47:32.000 We're waking up the firefighters.

01:47:33.000 They're refusing 99 plus percent to take a smallpox shot.

01:47:36.000 We're waking up their enforcers.

01:47:39.000 We're in the info war.

01:47:40.000 They better watch it, because they're the criminals running this.

01:47:43.000 Now, go ahead and comment on that, Doug, if you want.

01:47:47.000 Well, sure.

01:47:49.000 The people who are spreading, the people who are the provocateurs are the people in the mainstream media.

01:47:56.000 They're the ones that are The agents who are spreading propaganda.

01:48:01.000 It's not independent people like yourself who are speaking out.

01:48:05.000 And I should also add that the government can create as many blacklists as it wants, but the people still have the power.

01:48:15.000 And we still have the ability to organize ourselves and to change the government and to bring this country back.

01:48:24.000 To its ideals.

01:48:25.000 To what it really could be, and to make it into an ideal place once again.

01:48:32.000 This thing is just beginning, and the people are just beginning to fight back.

01:48:36.000 Well, Doug, they've been claiming that, you know, telling us echelons, listening to everything you're doing.

01:48:41.000 It has the power to listen.

01:48:42.000 They don't have, if they had 10 million people, to go actually listen to what you're saying.

01:48:47.000 So they're announcing it as a chilling effect to try to scare you folks, okay?

01:48:52.000 But yeah, if you dress up in camo, run out in the woods, and hang around with a guy that calls himself the Commander, chances are he's an FBI agent.

01:48:59.000 But if you're at the City Council, fighting the Patriot Act, wearing a suit and tie, marching down the street, it is totally... Go ahead, Scott.

01:49:08.000 Alex, like I said, I mean, I've only been listening for maybe a month and a half now, and I am just Overwhelmed at all the evidence.

01:49:16.000 Like I said, I've never just heard anyone plain ask you that question.

01:49:20.000 Yeah, but regardless if I'm a fed or not, which I'm not, you need to be a leader and stop making excuses to fight the New World Order.

01:49:26.000 Thanks for the call, Scott. 0.96

01:49:28.000 Okay, it's an important question, it's an annoying question, it's a stupid question if you really understand this stuff. 0.75

01:49:33.000 Well, look, everybody has a First Amendment right to free speech. 0.99

01:49:37.000 So people have a right to ask stupid questions. 0.99

01:49:40.000 I mean, I say it's important because it needs to be answered, but at the same time, to even question me for that is stupid, because it's so obvious that it's not the case. 1.00

01:49:48.000 Patrick in Texas, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:49:50.000 Yes, Alex, you mentioned about South America.

01:49:53.000 I lived down there from 68 to 72, and there was a Roman, there was an American there that was selling drugs, so they flew them back on X-15. 0.99

01:50:01.000 And another thing is, there's a...

01:50:04.000 We're each doctor by the name of Dr. Milton, who is passing out electric shock treatment to all kinds of people.

01:50:10.000 I was walking down the steps, next thing I know, everything's black, and I wake up, and a man in the station with pills and soap, and that's it.

01:50:17.000 Well, there's a lot of, uh, the CIA did a lot of kidnapping and medical testing.

01:50:21.000 The founder of the American Psychological Association in Canada ran a huge CIA brainwashing operation.

01:50:28.000 Ewing Cameron, uh, correct, uh, Doug?

01:50:30.000 That's right, Cameron.

01:50:32.000 They had Dr. Rommel down there who came to where I live at in this town and I told him he was wanted by South American Law and they just, I don't like what you said about Dr. Rommel.

01:50:42.000 And then they grabbed you and did that.

01:50:43.000 Okay, thanks for the call Patrick.

01:50:45.000 Roy and Albert and others are up next with our guest when we get back.

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01:53:50.000 ♪♪♪ You know, I've tried to not run over Mr. Valentine five or

01:54:02.000 six times today, but I've just done it because I had to make comments on

01:54:05.000 what he was saying I totally agree with everything he's been discussing.

01:54:09.000 He's very well informed, more than I am in some areas.

01:54:12.000 Reading over all the work he's done, he's an amazing individual.

01:54:14.000 We'll have to have him back up for two hours at some point.

01:54:18.000 We've got loaded phone lines here.

01:54:20.000 I've got Congressman Tom Tancredo scheduled in 10 minutes.

01:54:23.000 I'll have to hold the guest over for five minutes into the next hour if he can do it.

01:54:27.000 We've got loaded phones here for him.

01:54:29.000 I want to try to jam some of these calls in.

01:54:31.000 But Doug, before we plug your book and go to these calls, I do want to remind listeners, I'm

01:54:35.000 going to be in Houston, Texas tomorrow from 6 PM.

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01:54:49.000 I'm going to show 9-11 Road to Tyranny, take questions and answers, give a speech, and of course show the Uh, Rowdy, Rowdy Piper, uh, film, uh, that you don't want to miss.

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01:55:05.000 So please be there in Houston tomorrow.

01:55:07.000 Go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com to get my films or to get the books I've written and the books I've published.

01:55:13.000 Mr. Valentine, what books would you recommend for folks and how do they get them?

01:55:17.000 planet dot com or one eight eight eight two five three

01:55:22.000 three one three nine that's a day day

01:55:25.000 two five three three one three nine

01:55:28.000 uh... before we go to roy albert and barney on a cram all of the inner before

01:55:31.000 we end this uh... interview uh... mister valentine now what books would you recommend

01:55:36.000 for folks and how they get them

01:55:38.000 uh... it's regarding what uh... well you're a lot of books but regarding uh... you

01:55:44.000 know well you've We've obviously got the Phoenix program booked.

01:55:46.000 You've written some other books, too.

01:55:48.000 Well, my first book, The Hotel Proclamation, about my father, if people want to know what it was really like for a person to have been a Japanese prisoner of camp, that's my first book, and my favorite book.

01:56:03.000 The Phoenix Program book, of course, actually predicted everything that's happening today.

01:56:12.000 I highly recommend that, and I have a book coming out in the spring.

01:56:16.000 It's my latest book, and it's coming out in May, and it's called The Strength of the Wolf, and it's about the Bureau of Narcotics.

01:56:24.000 It's a non-fiction book, and it's about the organization that preceded the DEA.

01:56:30.000 It existed from 1930 to 1968, and it explains, this book explains how the intelligence and security agencies of the United States government law enforcement. Well it also had the same director from

01:56:46.000 its founding until it shut down and he was a real piece of work.

01:56:49.000 Harry Hinslinger from 1930 to 1962 was the commissioner of the Bureau of Narcotics. He was married to Andrew Mellon's

01:56:59.000 niece.

01:57:00.000 Andrew Mellon, of course, was one of the wealthiest men in the country.

01:57:03.000 And again, to boil it down, I haven't read your book, it's not out yet, but the establishment had people cutting in on their drug supplying of legal drugs, laudam and other stuff, opium, so they made it illegal to militarize things, to make it illegal and to get higher black market profits.

01:57:19.000 You really, really have an incredible breadth of knowledge.

01:57:23.000 Oh, please don't dip your head.

01:57:24.000 I just know what they're up to.

01:57:26.000 Hey, let's take a call here.

01:57:28.000 Roy in Michigan.

01:57:29.000 You're on the air with our guest, Douglas Valentine.

01:57:32.000 Yeah, Alex.

01:57:33.000 Yes.

01:57:34.000 That accusation about you being an agent, that's an accusation that I get a lot also.

01:57:41.000 Well, that's the kind of thing you get from agents.

01:57:43.000 I'm not saying that guy was an agent, but that's the type of stuff agents say.

01:57:48.000 See, the thing of it is that maybe you don't even understand it.

01:57:51.000 But the fact is, as well as an information war, this is also a spirit war.

01:57:57.000 And, see, those that are walking in fear are the ones who are the vulnerable ones, the ones that the government is going to be picking up.

01:58:08.000 Well, I've got to agree that I've found that if I don't care if police arrest me or beat me, they don't do it.

01:58:14.000 The person that cowers gets beaten.

01:58:16.000 That comes from the scripture.

01:58:17.000 It says a man who tries to save his life will lose his life, and a man who is willing to lose his life will find his life.

01:58:26.000 Okay, I'll tell you what, we've got five more minutes with our guest.

01:58:28.000 I also want to tell folks about the website, DouglasValentine.com.

01:58:32.000 Learn more about the publisher and the books there.

01:58:34.000 Can you stay with us for five more minutes, Doug?

01:58:37.000 I'd be honored to.

01:58:38.000 Okay, we'll be right back, and then stay there, Roy.

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02:00:00.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:06.000 All right, folks.

02:00:07.000 In about eight minutes, we'll have Congressman Tom Tancredo joining us to talk about the open border situation, while Ridge says give up all of our liberties doesn't make much sense unless you're the terrorist.

02:00:18.000 And I'm going to have to have our guest, Douglas Valentine, back up.

02:00:20.000 He's the author of several books.

02:00:22.000 One of them, The Phoenix Program.

02:00:24.000 His website's DouglasValentine.com.

02:00:27.000 Links at InfoWars.com.

02:00:28.000 Roy, finish up real quick because I want to get Albert and Barney and folks in here real quick.

02:00:33.000 Yeah, I just wanted you to know that it's the Lord who has protected you.

02:00:39.000 That's where your protection is coming from.

02:00:41.000 This is why they're not able to do anything to you.

02:00:45.000 It took me a long time to catch on to that's what was happening with me.

02:00:49.000 Because the threats were there.

02:00:53.000 I know the people that creep around fighting this are the ones that get smashed.

02:00:57.000 If you're going to get in a fight, you might as well go in full throttle all the way.

02:01:02.000 Defending my family is worth it.

02:01:04.000 I don't even think about it.

02:01:05.000 It's not even a courage issue.

02:01:07.000 I'm so disgusted by these people.

02:01:09.000 There's not even a question of fighting them.

02:01:11.000 Doug, has that been your personal experience?

02:01:13.000 Absolutely.

02:01:14.000 And if you're not intimidated, then you win.

02:01:19.000 Then you're not afraid.

02:01:19.000 Really?

02:01:21.000 You're not up there with anxiety at night.

02:01:24.000 Here's an analogy.

02:01:25.000 You are who you are.

02:01:26.000 Here's an analogy.

02:01:27.000 We have two chihuahuas. 0.73

02:01:29.000 A three-pounder, an eight-pounder, and we have a big, full-size Boston Terrier.

02:01:35.000 The small chihuahua is the boss.

02:01:39.000 Because it thinks it's the boss.

02:01:42.000 And that's how we should all behave.

02:01:44.000 Great point, Doug, and thanks, Roy.

02:01:47.000 Albert in Colorado.

02:01:48.000 Albert, go ahead.

02:01:49.000 Thanks for holding her on the air.

02:01:51.000 Hello.

02:01:51.000 Yes.

02:01:53.000 I don't know much about the Phoenix program, but the way I heard the story, they were killing South Vietnamese that they expected would resist the Communist takeover.

02:02:06.000 Have you heard anything?

02:02:07.000 Do you have any information about that?

02:02:10.000 Comments to that, Doug.

02:02:13.000 That they were killing Vietnamese who were going to resist the Communist takeover?

02:02:19.000 Yes, that's what I heard was the purpose of the Phoenix Program.

02:02:23.000 Well, the stated purpose of the Phoenix Program was to kill the people who supported the Communists, but what happened was the Communists infiltrated the program and started putting the names of loyal citizens on the blacklist, so Everybody started getting killed.

02:02:39.000 Yeah, that's the problem with a system like this.

02:02:41.000 You can't rely on torture.

02:02:43.000 You can't rely on those that will do the torturing.

02:02:46.000 And if I'm correct from what I've read, Doug, if somebody in the South Vietnamese government didn't like a business competitor, they just put their name on the list.

02:02:56.000 Same thing happened in Nazi Germany.

02:02:57.000 If they wanted your good-looking wife, they'd say you were a communist. 1.00

02:03:00.000 And the same thing is happening in Iraq, because Americans aren't Iraqis, and they can't go undercover And create agent nets as undercover agents. 0.78

02:03:09.000 So they have to rely on Iraqis and the people that the CIA is hiring right now in Iraq as its agent force.

02:03:17.000 Former Ba'athists. 1.00

02:03:18.000 For Saddam Hussein's torturers.

02:03:20.000 Yeah, former Ba'athists. 1.00

02:03:21.000 Well, look at Chalibi, the head guy in Baghdad.

02:03:24.000 He was a torture guy for the Shah. 0.99

02:03:26.000 And these people are being touted on ABC, CBS, and the New York Times as our saviors.

02:03:33.000 These are the people who are going to win the war for us.

02:03:35.000 Just like we hired the Nazis after World War II, now we're doing the same thing all over again. 0.93

02:03:41.000 And the point is, it's totally unnecessary.

02:03:44.000 If what you're doing is honest, and if what you're doing is God-fearing and correct, you have no reason to resort to torture, to assassination, or any other criminal activity.

02:03:58.000 If what you're doing is right, you can stand up and you can do whatever you have to do in the full light of day.

02:04:05.000 Absolutely.

02:04:06.000 I'm sorry to Barney and John and others.

02:04:06.000 Thanks, Albert.

02:04:08.000 We'll get to your calls.

02:04:10.000 Dan Credo's only on for 20 minutes if you want to hold, folks, but Tom Dan Credo, the Congressman, is coming up.

02:04:14.000 Douglas Valentine, incredible breadth of knowledge.

02:04:16.000 I hope to have you back on the show and have my producer call you and set you back up for two hours next week if you want to do it.

02:04:23.000 I'd love to.

02:04:24.000 Thank you very much.

02:04:25.000 Okay, and just douglasvalentine.com for details on one of the books, The Phoenix Program, and thanks for coming on, sir.

02:04:32.000 Thank you for having me.

02:04:33.000 You bet.

02:04:34.000 Okay, we'll be back as we continue the crusade against evil hooks with the great American Congressman Tom Tancredo.

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02:07:59.000 Alright folks!

02:08:02.000 Shh! 0.97

02:08:03.000 you We're back live, and we just got a call from Congressman Tom Tancredo's staff, who are great folks.

02:08:09.000 We've had him on about ten times over the last two years.

02:08:11.000 He's stuck in a hearing right now.

02:08:13.000 He should be out in the next five, ten minutes.

02:08:15.000 We will have Congressman Tom Tancredo on to talk about Governor Ridge, saying, hey, let's legalize all the illegals. 0.88

02:08:21.000 That's a quote, folks.

02:08:22.000 Legalize all of them, and now the Bush White House has said, well, yeah, it's official.

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02:08:46.000 And so that developed as well.

02:08:48.000 I've got a bunch of key news we're about to get to.

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02:08:56.000 Let's go ahead and talk to John in Tennessee.

02:08:58.000 John, go ahead.

02:08:59.000 I've worked with several people who claim to be serial killers for special forces in Vietnam and all the wars since, with body counts over 50, just like Governor Ventura.

02:09:11.000 According to CIA Director, I believe it was Bill Colby, to U.S.

02:09:14.000 Congress, the phoenix program murdered sixty thousand of our allies

02:09:18.000 in south vietnam uh... by the way governor ventura about three months ago i

02:09:25.000 saw the transcript of it

02:09:27.000 uh... on the official one news site but uh... not uh... i didn't see the video everybody called

02:09:32.000 about it i would found the transcript

02:09:34.000 governor and i read the transcript on air but paraphrasing it

02:09:37.000 on jay leno's tonight show he said and this is paraphrasing

02:09:42.000 he said you know i did a lot of things a lot of things i thought were for the

02:09:46.000 country but the three tours i was in vietnam as a navy seal

02:09:50.000 And let me tell you something, Jay.

02:09:52.000 It was all a lie.

02:09:54.000 It was a fraud.

02:09:55.000 We killed a lot of people with what I did in the Phoenix program.

02:09:59.000 We lost a lot of good people on our side, and it's a fraud.

02:10:03.000 9-11's a fraud. 0.87

02:10:05.000 All this care is a fraud.

02:10:06.000 Did you hear about that?

02:10:08.000 I'd like to see that transcript.

02:10:10.000 I read it on air.

02:10:11.000 It was about two or three months ago.

02:10:12.000 I wish somebody sent me a video of that.

02:10:14.000 We got a bunch of calls.

02:10:15.000 I went online, found the transcript of it.

02:10:18.000 It was a news article about it.

02:10:19.000 He indeed said that.

02:10:21.000 And he got upset, supposedly.

02:10:22.000 He said, visibly agitated, jumped out of his seat, was leaning over at Jay Leno.

02:10:27.000 I wonder why he'd do that.

02:10:28.000 Well, these people are traumatized, and there's tens of thousands of them all around us.

02:10:33.000 And they'll talk to anybody who's willing to listen to them.

02:10:36.000 Most people just will not listen to them or they block it out and say, such things can't be true, they must be making it up.

02:10:43.000 But these people are willing to talk and go into great detail about what they did because that's the only way they can clear their conscience and keep their sanity.

02:10:52.000 Well, I mean, I don't want to say too much about it.

02:10:54.000 The family member I have was not involved in nerve gassing himself, but he was on missions into Laos where this stuff was going on, and it just calmly... and this came out three years ago in the tailwind story on CNN.

02:11:08.000 Admiral Moore talked about it.

02:11:09.000 He's a great guy, the former chairman and joint chief of staff.

02:11:12.000 you know the jets the helicopters drop in the nerve gas if they captured our

02:11:15.000 people they just nerve gasm or they'd nerve gasm the troops which is illegal to do

02:11:21.000 but here i am driving along with a family member and they just oh yeah

02:11:24.000 you know just start talking about it well there's a colonel now i can't remember his name but he's

02:11:29.000 talking about how he's the guy that was supposedly the bad guy in apocalypse

02:11:34.000 now with martin sheen and he said that

02:11:37.000 the pentagon would would literally try to kill thousands of american soldiers 0.95

02:11:41.000 at one time by sending in a larger force of american soldiers to kill 0.80

02:11:45.000 the americans if they participate in the phoenix program properly

02:11:51.000 So this wasn't just against the South Vietnamese, our allies, this was against the American soldiers.

02:11:58.000 Now last year on a commercial airline flight from Portland, Oregon to Dallas, Texas, I coincidentally was assigned a seat next to a family member of an Oregon state police officer.

02:12:09.000 This was the daughter of a state trooper and he was also a military police officer recalled from retirement to go into the new Gulf War.

02:12:16.000 They basically wouldn't let him out of retirement.

02:12:19.000 Let me stop you, let me stop you. 0.85

02:12:22.000 That is official, by the way, listeners.

02:12:25.000 People who have been out for 15 years, they get recalled, it's basically a draft, and then they have a stipulation, even when you sign up for a two-year or three-year sign-up with any force, any of the armed services, there's an open-ended contract to keep you in for upwards of 20 years, and they're now doing that!

02:12:43.000 People want out, they're saying no!

02:12:45.000 Well, she admitted that the Oregon police bragged that they have death camps in the National Forest of Oregon, where they currently take people to be murdered and then buried in secret. 0.84

02:12:56.000 Now, they tried to play it up like, oh, this was, you know, a bad criminal and we couldn't catch him with the law, so we had to take him out and shoot him.

02:13:03.000 Well, LA had that 25 years ago with that assassination team that got caught.

02:13:08.000 That's admitted.

02:13:09.000 But here's the deal.

02:13:11.000 We have Senator Menace Yes.

02:13:13.000 of oregon that committee chairman and this bill is on a four-shot comets in

02:13:17.000 police state three total enslavement it says in a row rather over and over again john did you

02:13:22.000 know shows it's sad

02:13:24.000 anyone blocking traffic in one protest block traffic or doorway

02:13:28.000 everyone in the protest will be given life in prison in a forced

02:13:33.000 labor forest camp It says, forced labor forest camp.

02:13:39.000 Then I have the county commissioner on about the camps the feds built in Washington.

02:13:43.000 Remember that?

02:13:44.000 And there was even a local TV newscast about it.

02:13:47.000 I'm not trying to scare you folks, but this is really happening.

02:13:51.000 Well, since I'm a veteran, I was able to confirm a lot of what she said.

02:13:54.000 And the fact that she was a stripper only verified her inside knowledge of gangsters and organized crime, since strip clubs are notorious for laundering profits from drug dealers who own the strip clubs.

02:14:05.000 In other words, they're mid-level distributors for the CIA.

02:14:10.000 Think about how disgusting that is, though.

02:14:12.000 So she was bragging about the death camps. 0.90

02:14:14.000 How wonderful.

02:14:14.000 Yes!

02:14:15.000 Oh, yes!

02:14:16.000 And I kind of questioned whether that was a coincidental assignment.

02:14:22.000 Well, it probably was, sir.

02:14:24.000 Don't ever think you're that important.

02:14:26.000 I don't think I'm that important.

02:14:27.000 But listen, let me tell you something.

02:14:31.000 It's like when I walk in the Brooksville Police Department and a woman runs from behind the counter yelling, I want martial law! 0.99

02:14:37.000 Line them up and shoot them! 1.00

02:14:38.000 It's a mental illness. 1.00

02:14:40.000 It's a nest of these people. 0.98

02:14:42.000 Well, a second example occurred in Knoxville, Tennessee.

02:14:42.000 Well, sure.

02:14:45.000 I did work as a citizen investigator pro bono on a murder case of an informant for the U.S.

02:14:51.000 Drug Enforcement Administration.

02:14:53.000 We did get a conviction for murder and later on kidnapping.

02:14:56.000 Then the DA fired the prosecutor after a 17-year career, and the killer was released three years before his first parole date.

02:15:04.000 The killer, the two-time convicted killer, now works inside the DA's office as a paid informant, uh, narcing on a few of his, uh, customers.

02:15:12.000 Well, the FBI's been caught coast-to-coast running the hitch and putting innocent people in prison.

02:15:16.000 Thanks for the call.

02:15:18.000 John in Ohio.

02:15:19.000 Go ahead.

02:15:19.000 John, you're on the air.

02:15:20.000 Yes, I was just reading an article on the World Socialist website about how the media has, about two months ago, started this campaign to justify concentration camps and terror and assassination of people.

02:15:34.000 Yeah, that was posted last week on InfoWars.

02:15:37.000 The inside memo is about start warming people up for martial law.

02:15:41.000 Yeah, this article was pointing out that as much as the government is responsible, the New York Times, the Washington Post, Jim Hoagland, Max Boot and others are being trotted out all over the media.

02:15:53.000 The New York Times have been advocating torture as the method for crushing the insurgency.

02:15:58.000 They're bringing out this old Vietnam phoenix assassination program. 0.97

02:16:03.000 This Max Boot was quoted in the New York Times of reprising the phoenix assassination program.

02:16:11.000 The rationalization for it that was used during the Vietnam War that the guerrillas used the idea of the Uh, uh, idea that they had to be up by and from the people and swim among the sea of the people.

02:16:23.000 So, uh, the, uh, turn that around and say that the sea of the people have to be killed, have to be assassinated, have to be, uh, tortured and terrorized and to, uh, uh, stop supporting the, uh, the insurgents and- Which, by the way, they know will backfire.

02:16:37.000 The plan is to send the leftists in the UN in as the saviors.

02:16:41.000 Thanks for the call.

02:16:42.000 I- Muhammad in Colorado, you're on the air.

02:16:45.000 Go ahead, Muhammad. 1.00

02:16:46.000 Hey Mr. Jones, how are you?

02:16:48.000 Fine.

02:16:49.000 Hey guys, you know that gentleman who called from Hawaii saying that you're an agent?

02:16:54.000 Somebody who is from Afghanistan knows who Taliban Al-Qaeda is.

02:16:59.000 I can assure that caller what you're saying is 110% true.

02:17:05.000 You know, it is amazing.

02:17:07.000 It's just people, you know, I drive a taxi here in Colorado and Denver.

02:17:12.000 I try to let people know about your website.

02:17:15.000 I've ordered your videos.

02:17:16.000 I can't wait to get them.

02:17:17.000 I don't mind dishing out.

02:17:19.000 I mean, I take about 50 to 70 people a day in my taxi, and I don't mind dishing out five bucks a tape and just letting people know, you know, guy, I'm a naturalized citizen.

02:17:30.000 I love this country.

02:17:30.000 I fell in love with the constitution of this country.

02:17:32.000 I read something that Thomas Jefferson told all of us long time ago, Mr. Jones, is that never allow financial institutions to overtake your government.

02:17:42.000 And that's what we have allowed.

02:17:43.000 And he also gave the antidote of love.

02:17:46.000 Has that ever happened?

02:17:47.000 He said, rise up and revolt.

02:17:48.000 I know that's asking for violence.

02:17:50.000 Well, let me stop you, Mohammed. 1.00

02:17:52.000 That's what they did in the 70s and 80s, is they created the terror teams, they created the Taliban, they created the Al-Qaeda, they still control them, and now they're oppressing the people, putting the warlords in charge, and now they want to turn America into Afghanistan, turn America into Iraq.

02:18:08.000 We can't let that happen, can we?

02:18:10.000 No, we cannot.

02:18:11.000 This is the last frontier.

02:18:13.000 I'm serious.

02:18:14.000 I hate to start.

02:18:15.000 Make it sound like some western movie name, but this is the last frontier. 0.77

02:18:19.000 We're the last defense against these sons of a beast.

02:18:23.000 A globalist, because if we don't do anything, I'm going to tell you something, Afghanistan, you know, I tell this to everybody, Mr. Jones, Afghanistan, the Soviets, we had this monarchy king, the Soviets fought the people around him when he realized too late, because he was a nationalist, he loved Afghanistan, it was too late.

02:18:40.000 The Soviets came in with 200,000 soldiers in 1979, not a single shot was fired.

02:18:45.000 Because he bought, and if people think that cannot happen in America, I think they live in a fantasy land.

02:18:51.000 They will.

02:18:51.000 Well, the military, General Eberhardt at NORTHCOM there in Colorado says they're going to go to martial law.

02:18:58.000 Frank says it.

02:18:59.000 They're all just doing it like, oh, it's a good idea to be under a military dictatorship.

02:19:04.000 And God bless you, Mohamed.

02:19:05.000 Mohamed, I'm going to put you on hold. 1.00

02:19:07.000 I want to talk to you.

02:19:08.000 During the break about your great work waking folks up in the taxi cab, and I want to get the statistics from you on how many people are waking up to that.

02:19:17.000 Thanks for the call.

02:19:18.000 I'm going to come back, cover news.

02:19:20.000 Congress pushes for larger military.

02:19:22.000 Iraq Army walking out over pay.

02:19:24.000 Soldiers in Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction protection.

02:19:28.000 Halliburton Pentagon found out they're cheating on the bids they're putting in.

02:19:33.000 Not even the bids.

02:19:33.000 There's no bids on the bills they're putting in.

02:19:35.000 That's all coming up.

02:19:37.000 And we've got Tom Tancredo scheduled.

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02:23:42.000 Waging war on corruption. Alex Jones on the GCN radio network.

02:23:56.000 Alright, Larry in Kentucky and others, we'll get to you coming up in the next segment.

02:24:02.000 And again, Tom Tancredo's never done this to us before, but I know he's in a committee meeting, it must be an important vote or something, so he should be on, they said by now, but we're calling his office right now, trying to get him onto that meeting.

02:24:16.000 White House verifies immigration review.

02:24:18.000 The New York Times is reporting on this.

02:24:21.000 So is the Washington Times.

02:24:23.000 The White House yesterday said a new immigration review is underway that could lead to amnesty for millions of illegal aliens living and working in the United States.

02:24:31.000 Confirmation of the review came during the White House briefing just two days after Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge So during a town hall meeting at Miami, that the government had to quote, afford some kind of legal status to the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens in the country.

02:24:47.000 Oh, isn't that nice?

02:24:48.000 And they've taken thousands of border patrol off, that's the actual numbers, 2,000 off the southern border alone, going to be air marshals paying them more, they're even lower in the pay of border patrol to drive folks out of there, and Tom Ridge timed to legalize illegals He wants to, quote, come to grips with it and somehow legalize all these illegal aliens.

02:25:10.000 But we've got to have the government sticking a microscope down our throat, watching us. 0.84

02:25:16.000 It's ridiculous. 0.52

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02:25:22.000 Congress pushes for larger military.

02:25:25.000 Members of Congress from both parties are pushing for the first significant increase in the size of the Al Qaeda military in 16 years.

02:25:34.000 Call-ups of part-time troops from the Army National Guard and the Army Reserve to fill the ranks in Iraq have intensified the bipartisan sentiment that the Pentagon doesn't have enough troops to fight an extended war on terrorism while keeping enough well-rested, well-trained troops ready for an emergency.

02:25:51.000 But the Pentagon, it says, doesn't want that.

02:25:54.000 No, they want to drive our troops into submission, have them break down from fatigue, and further erode the offensive nature of the military, to roll that into the EU, and then send the UN into Iraq as the savior.

02:26:07.000 And, uh, what was that, my dear?

02:26:10.000 Oh, we do have the illustrious guest who we drug out of a committee meeting.

02:26:15.000 I hope it wasn't too important.

02:26:16.000 I hope the meeting's over now.

02:26:18.000 Tom Tancredo is what happened for this segment and the next segment.

02:26:22.000 And that was the news I was just covering.

02:26:24.000 White House is back with its amnesty plan that they were promoting on the steps of the White House two weeks before 9-11 with Vicente Fox in the henhouse.

02:26:34.000 And we've got Mexican troops kidnapping U.S.

02:26:36.000 citizens on our side of the border.

02:26:38.000 To bring us up to speed on this is the premier congressman from Colorado, fighting this issue of sovereignty.

02:26:46.000 Congressman, good to have you on.

02:26:47.000 Good to be on, thank you very much.

02:26:49.000 You bet.

02:26:50.000 What committee meeting were you in?

02:26:52.000 It was a water hearing here in Colorado.

02:26:54.000 Let me tell you, you know, who was it that President Roosevelt, somebody said, out here in the West anyway, You know, whiskeys for drinking and waters for fighting.

02:27:05.000 And believe me, it's a very volatile topic, just about as volatile as immigration.

02:27:13.000 Well, also, Mexico's been stealing water from Texas and New Mexico. 0.96

02:27:17.000 That's exactly right.

02:27:18.000 They have not abided by the pact.

02:27:20.000 They have been taking far more water than the pact allows.

02:27:24.000 And of course, it's a good example.

02:27:27.000 If that had happened, With a state.

02:27:30.000 If Colorado were in that situation, there would be, of course, recourse.

02:27:35.000 You'd go to court and there would be some decision made and somebody would be able to actually bring some closure to it.

02:27:43.000 But because it's Mexico, nobody wants to do anything about it for fear that it would affect other issues. 1.00

02:27:48.000 And that goes to show you just how difficult it is to deal with issues like immigration with Mexico.

02:27:54.000 When people are petrified to talk about it, uh... the problems that exist on our borders

02:28:01.000 and and not just on the borders but internally as a result of

02:28:05.000 having porous borders and yet the people are afraid like even

02:28:09.000 even the secretary of homeland security is ready to throw in the

02:28:14.000 towel because he's fearful of the political consequences of not doing so

02:28:18.000 Political consequences?

02:28:20.000 Eighty-two percent of Hispanics want the borders shut.

02:28:22.000 Eighty-seven to eighty-nine percent of all of the groups averaged in.

02:28:27.000 This is an extremely popular and constitutional issue.

02:28:31.000 You got elected with what?

02:28:32.000 Sixteen percent of the vote?

02:28:33.000 Sixty-what?

02:28:34.000 Almost sixty-nine percent, yeah.

02:28:36.000 Almost 70%.

02:28:36.000 So what are they afraid of?

02:28:38.000 They're corporate backers that want all the slave labor? 0.97

02:28:41.000 Yes, sir.

02:28:42.000 That is exactly what it is.

02:28:45.000 It is the issue of cheap labor.

02:28:48.000 That is what is driving and fueling this thing.

02:28:51.000 Well, on the Democrat side, they know that the influx of massive numbers of immigrants, both legal and illegal, mean potential voters for Democrats.

02:29:00.000 On the Republican side, They look at the same phenomena, and they think of it as a massive number of cheap laborers.

02:29:07.000 And so, that's why you can have 70% of the American public demanding some sort of reform, but nothing happening in the Congress.

02:29:16.000 It is because the convergence of those two points of view in the parties that control our government.

02:29:22.000 I'll tell you what, Congressman, do one more segment with us, quick three-minute break, and we'll be back with Congressman Tom Tancredo if his cell doesn't cut out.

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02:32:41.000 All right, Congressman Tom Tancredo is our guest and I've got a few central questions

02:33:05.000 for the Congressman.

02:33:07.000 First off, Bush, I wouldn't say is throwing in the towel, or Red isn't throwing in the towel, Congressman, because right before 9-11 when you were saying terrorists could attack us with the borders, Bush is with Fox saying open the borders, it's the free trade area of the Americas, Pan American Union, New World Order, And now Ridge says we've got to legalize them.

02:33:26.000 Well, 800 cities have already done it, accepting these fake matricula cards.

02:33:30.000 I've had the leader of the Colorado Senate on, Congressman, who had his staff go out and get four of these cards, one person, under different names.

02:33:38.000 You've documented this.

02:33:39.000 You've defended the Republic.

02:33:40.000 You've done your duty.

02:33:42.000 So what do we do about Bush, who's already said you're targeted by the neocons in human events and in roll call because they don't like you because you're a real conservative.

02:33:51.000 What do you say to that?

02:33:53.000 I say, come and try!

02:33:56.000 Come on and try!

02:33:57.000 You just do what you need to do to the White House and anybody else.

02:34:02.000 Look, when I take an oath of office, every two years, if I'm lucky enough to be elected to the Congress of the United States, and I'm down on the floor of the House, I put my hand up in the air and I take an oath.

02:34:14.000 And you know that that oath is not to the President of the United States, and it is not to the party, it is to the Constitution.

02:34:22.000 And I'll tell you right now, that that oath means more to me than any allegiance that I have, which I do have, both to the President and the Republican Party.

02:34:31.000 But I have a greater allegiance to the Constitution in this country.

02:34:34.000 So I don't care what anyone does as a result of my devotion to that cause, I will do exactly what I'm doing.

02:34:42.000 I do put my life in God's hands.

02:34:42.000 And you know what?

02:34:47.000 I say, you know, as long as I do what I believe I should do and what I think he wants me to do on this planet, then that's the only one I'm really accountable to.

02:34:56.000 Well, Congressman, what do we do when the Republican and the Democratic parties ignore the Constitution, ignore our security, ignore our sovereignty, ignore the will of the people, And they're getting rid of the border right now, as you've said.

02:35:10.000 Mexico says it belongs to them.

02:35:12.000 That's being funded out of New York.

02:35:13.000 What do we do?

02:35:15.000 How do we stop this from happening?

02:35:18.000 I'm telling you that I have seen now, in the last maybe six, eight months, a momentum shift.

02:35:25.000 Alex, I guarantee you that if you wouldn't have been doing what you're doing, and the other talk show hosts around this country that care, and the internet wasn't there, and Fox News, I guarantee you by now we would have already had a complete and total amnesty, we would have had a formal change in terms of the way in which our borders are constructed, and that has been stopped.

02:35:49.000 And not only has it been stopped, but I get the distinct impression that this is This total thing is moving more in our direction.

02:35:58.000 So the best defense is a good offense, the Bushes are now, because they're in trouble, are trying to throw it back in our face and get the momentum by trying to call for amnesty again?

02:36:08.000 Well, I'll tell you that the, that balloon I think that they set up there, and I don't know, I still don't know right now, it's hard for me to believe that that was a purposeful I'm going to really float this idea that as the Secretary of Homeland Security, as an agenda item for this administration, that we're going to have amnesty.

02:36:29.000 I have the impression, after reading it, in fact it came about in a series of questions after he spoke, that I think he He actually blew it.

02:36:38.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:36:40.000 Congressman, I appreciate you giving him the benefit of the doubt, but you're back in the district.

02:36:46.000 I won't blame you if you didn't read the White House statement today, published in the Washington Times.

02:36:51.000 The White House came out in a press conference.

02:36:53.000 McClellan said, yes, we are going to reissue the amnesty call.

02:36:58.000 That was this morning.

02:36:59.000 Ah, no, you're right.

02:37:00.000 I did not see that.

02:37:01.000 And maybe he forced him into making that I'm glad, because you know what?

02:37:07.000 Now that we know that's where they're coming from, we can establish what we're going to do about it.

02:37:12.000 And I guarantee you, they're not going to be able to get that through the House.

02:37:16.000 Now, the Senate, that's a bunch of wimps. 0.91

02:37:17.000 I wouldn't for a moment try to predict what they would do, except to probably cave in.

02:37:22.000 But on the House side right now, we've got some stalwarts.

02:37:26.000 One is the Chairman of the Immigration Subcommittee.

02:37:30.000 Mr. Hosteller.

02:37:31.000 And I'll tell you right now, they're not going to get an amnesty bill passed him.

02:37:34.000 I don't think they're going to get one passed Mr. Sensenbrenner.

02:37:37.000 And I'd be surprised even if the Speaker of the House would agree to have a bill come up like that because he knows what happened the last time.

02:37:45.000 When that happened, they brought one up, it damn near tore our conference apart.

02:37:49.000 Okay, here's the problem, Congressman.

02:37:51.000 You know it better than I do.

02:37:53.000 By fiat, the states and the counties and the cities are setting up day labor sites, public housing.

02:37:59.000 They're accepting the matricular cards.

02:38:03.000 They are going ahead and just legalizing it without Congress even doing it.

02:38:08.000 You got Hatch wanting to give the illegals all this welfare money and tuition.

02:38:13.000 We've got all these different things happening.

02:38:15.000 We had Fox here a couple weeks ago.

02:38:17.000 I protested him in Texas.

02:38:19.000 He gave an award to the Austin Police Department for violating federal law and refusing to arrest illegals. 0.96

02:38:25.000 Illegals don't get arrested when they have automobile accidents without driver's license, but I would be. 1.00

02:38:30.000 They are better than I am.

02:38:32.000 They have more rights than I do.

02:38:34.000 Two questions.

02:38:35.000 Why do they have more rights than I do?

02:38:37.000 Why are the Republicans enabling them?

02:38:38.000 And then number two, how do we criminally prosecute city leaders that violate federal law because it is racketeering?

02:38:48.000 Oh, brother.

02:38:50.000 Those are two great questions.

02:38:51.000 Why is it that these people who are achieving greater rights, not only in the area you just described, but let me point out something else.

02:39:03.000 There are two groups of people in this country that have access to all of the health care benefits they need, regardless of whether or not they're able to pay for them.

02:39:15.000 And there are only two groups.

02:39:17.000 One are prisoners and the other are illegal aliens. 0.75

02:39:23.000 And our veterans are waiting two months to get health care.

02:39:25.000 I visited a detention center where, and in fact I've been to two or three now, detention centers for illegal immigrants.

02:39:33.000 There are specialists on staff, health care professionals.

02:39:37.000 You get a dental exam when you come in.

02:39:41.000 And all of your dental work taken care of.

02:39:43.000 Then you can get an MRI.

02:39:46.000 I saw the MRI machine inside a detention center.

02:39:50.000 You can have these folks go through and if they come up with cancer, they're sent to an oncologist.

02:39:57.000 I guarantee you that I have people in my district who do not have the same access to healthcare that we provide both prisoners Well, Congressman, I have a friend who had to sell his car to pay his $4,000 MRI bill.

02:40:14.000 Oh, what's going on with Hatch?

02:40:16.000 Oh man, I'll tell ya, it does drive you nuts.

02:40:18.000 citizenship, sneak back into the country, get put into a detention center, and you can get it taken care of.

02:40:23.000 Oh, what's going on with Hatch?

02:40:27.000 Oh man, I'll tell you, it does drive you nuts, but I also mean it when I tell you I believe there is some momentum on

02:40:33.000 our side. I do. All we can do is what we can do.

02:40:36.000 You know, Alex, the fact is that every single person in America is charged with, you know, some responsibility in this effort.

02:40:45.000 And what an individual can do around the water cooler at work, the way they vote, when they are confronting a city council person, or the President of the United States asking for their vote, what you do is you say, what are you going to do about This problem with immigration in this country. 0.51

02:41:00.000 And don't just say illegal immigration.

02:41:03.000 Because, I'll tell you right now, the problem is immigration, both legal and illegal. 0.99

02:41:07.000 Well, they're going to make it all legal, so we better start talking about legal now.

02:41:10.000 Exactly.

02:41:11.000 That's exactly what will happen.

02:41:12.000 If you just simply say, well, if the problem is with illegal immigration, I'm all for immigration, but illegal, they will simply say, fine, everybody coming into the country is here legally.

02:41:22.000 So that's the end of that.

02:41:23.000 And I'll tell you, as long as you've got a country that is mired in what I call the cult of multiculturalism, that

02:41:29.000 tells people when they come here they should not in fact become part of the American mosaic, that they

02:41:35.000 should stay separate, keep separate language, keep even their political affiliation

02:41:39.000 to another country, then immigration period is a problem.

02:41:43.000 Yeah, it's total balkanization, divide and conquer, and again, you've said that so eloquently, Congressman.

02:41:50.000 So again, we need to prosecute city officials who are in sedition.

02:41:57.000 They gave awards to the APD for not enforcing federal law.

02:42:02.000 It was in the newspaper!

02:42:04.000 My goodness.

02:42:08.000 Unfortunately, most of the federal law on this issue has no penalty.

02:42:13.000 It's just simply on the book.

02:42:15.000 There's no penalty that is meted out to anybody for violating it.

02:42:19.000 You know, there's a law that says that no state or local government can impede the flow of information from the INS or to the old INS.

02:42:27.000 But of course, Houston is flagrantly violating that law.

02:42:32.000 Cities, there must be 400 cities in this nation that are doing that.

02:42:36.000 It's 800, 400 cities is about another 400 towns, yeah.

02:42:39.000 Towns, okay, so you got 800 communities in the United States of America flagrantly violating that federal law.

02:42:46.000 I went to the floor of the House and tried to add an amendment to it, the Homeland Security Act, saying that any city doing that couldn't apply for any funds.

02:42:54.000 I mean, trying to put some sort of, you know, Well, Congressman, it goes deeper.

02:43:04.000 You may not be aware of this one.

02:43:06.000 Let me throw this out at you.

02:43:07.000 I have a friend who manages one of the biggest apartment complexes in Austin.

02:43:12.000 She was sent to the big corporate meeting.

02:43:14.000 It's the biggest management company in the country.

02:43:19.000 Golf courses, hotels, apartments.

02:43:21.000 She was sent to the big corporate meeting in Dallas and she was told if it's illegals, let them be 10 to a two-bedroom. 1.00

02:43:27.000 If it's a citizen, No sir, I wasn't. 0.67

02:43:29.000 out or fine them. Now why are even the corporations, and now understand this corporation quietly

02:43:36.000 just made a third of their housing, that is within a unit, a third of it government housing,

02:43:41.000 but they're not going to tell the tenants you're now moving into quasi-governmental

02:43:44.000 housing and the feds, they said, have told us to let the illegals in. Number one, were 0.94

02:43:49.000 you aware of that? No sir, I wasn't. I had never heard of that. I'm not telling you,

02:43:57.000 This conversation is making me even more upset than I was when I started it.

02:44:04.000 Also, you said something on the lead-in that I heard, something about Mexican Army Mexican military kidnapping American citizens or something?

02:44:13.000 What was that about?

02:44:14.000 You didn't... Oh!

02:44:15.000 Yeah, Associated Press, Newsmax, last week, South Texas, a family of five, about six miles over the border.

02:44:24.000 They were shooting at rabbits with .22s.

02:44:26.000 Mexican troops came across, kidnapped five of them.

02:44:29.000 Now, it came out last week, they kidnapped them November 24th.

02:44:32.000 They released four of them.

02:44:33.000 We're still holding one of them.

02:44:35.000 And I was going to mention to you, I've seen one AP article, one Newsmax article, nothing else.

02:44:41.000 I'm going to try to dig that out, it's here in the stack.

02:44:44.000 These are American citizens, and one of them is presently being held, and they were taken from the United States of America?

02:44:50.000 Yeah, you were even quoted in the Newsmax story as, Tancredo, since there's been 181 incursions like this.

02:44:56.000 But they pulled that out of a separate story, you know what I mean?

02:44:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:45:00.000 But there has been so little reporting that even you... No, I never heard that.

02:45:07.000 Yes, sir.

02:45:08.000 And of course you talk about FBI being shot, Border Patrol being shot, Forest Service.

02:45:15.000 You have exposed that with this new thing happening.

02:45:17.000 What do you say?

02:45:19.000 Well, first of all, I'm going to try to get the Secretary of State on the phone.

02:45:24.000 You know what we need?

02:45:27.000 I keep saying that every time I call, like if I call the Department of State and I say, I need to talk to somebody about a problem in Afghanistan.

02:45:36.000 They always say, well, you have to talk to somebody on the Afghan desk.

02:45:39.000 Well, you know what I'm going to call over for and ask for somebody on the American desk at the State Department, because I need somebody at the State Department that's actually on our side.

02:45:48.000 And we do not have that.

02:45:50.000 But I'm going to, as soon as I get back to my office, I'm going to try to get a call through to the secretary of state and i want him

02:45:57.000 coming but the hell is going on

02:45:59.000 with this particular case will then congressman i pointed out a week ago in

02:46:03.000 this first broke that no one was talking about on the news only again newsmax a p

02:46:07.000 i think we're on a daily follow an article about it but that there have been so many of those instances

02:46:12.000 uh... i mean i'm here in june and some you know if some right wingers

02:46:16.000 fault one of these illegals in the nose it would be you know dateline nbc

02:46:22.000 sixty minutes but mexican troops are engaged in carnage in machine gunning

02:46:26.000 every week down there and and and it's not even in our news

02:46:30.000 And in the article, it said that Newsmax and the AP kept calling the FBI and they will not make a comment.

02:46:38.000 They don't even care!

02:46:40.000 Well, we will dig something out of them.

02:46:42.000 I guarantee it.

02:46:43.000 We'll dig something out of them on this.

02:46:45.000 And I will continue to do it until they make a statement, until we get some... I have never heard of this particular thing, and you say that this happens a lot, but we've never had it where an American citizen was actually kidnapped from the United States by the Mexican military before.

02:47:01.000 That's a new one to me.

02:47:02.000 But believe me, I swear to you, that we will follow up on that one, too.

02:47:06.000 Well, I figure we need to see you on Fox News tonight.

02:47:08.000 This is a major story, and I bet if you call them, they'll pull the article up.

02:47:12.000 I bet you can go right on there and do it.

02:47:13.000 Well, I'm going to be on Fox over the weekend, I know, and if possible, I will add this to the discussion.

02:47:21.000 Well, I'll tell you what, I know listeners can email it to you quicker than I can, or I can send it this afternoon.

02:47:27.000 Where do we send these articles?

02:47:30.000 Um, let's see.

02:47:32.000 The best way to do it, you can fax it.

02:47:36.000 Are they faxable or just only in electronic?

02:47:38.000 Well, I'm just ashamed because I said last week I need to call Tancredo and I said I'm sure he knows and none of us told you and we fell down on this.

02:47:46.000 Folks, shame on all of us.

02:47:48.000 Yeah, the fax is great.

02:47:49.000 Folks, I want you to fax it to him.

02:47:50.000 The AP and the Newsmax right now.

02:47:53.000 What's that fax number?

02:47:54.000 I'm getting it out.

02:47:55.000 I'm setting up the light here in just a second.

02:47:58.000 It is District Office 720... 720... 283... 283... 9776.

02:48:02.000 I guarantee you we will go after this.

02:48:08.000 I guarantee it.

02:48:10.000 Well, as you've said, it's an important call.

02:48:12.000 I can't guarantee that I can get him out, but I will do something about this.

02:48:16.000 Well, Congressman, it shows how important it is that we contact you and others because it does count to call Congress.

02:48:23.000 I mean, you guys are so busy.

02:48:24.000 You're in your districts right now.

02:48:25.000 You know, you didn't... I mean, and I can't blame you.

02:48:28.000 I mean, the newshounds know this, but the White House said today that, yeah, they are calling for amnesty. 1.00

02:48:32.000 See, I mean, this news just isn't getting out.

02:48:35.000 Well, and it's been... I've been in that hearing ever since about 8 o'clock this morning.

02:48:39.000 Oh, no, I'm not blaming you.

02:48:40.000 I understand.

02:48:40.000 It's our job to inform you.

02:48:43.000 Well, you're doing a good job.

02:48:48.000 I will also try to get that.

02:48:50.000 Should I have that apartment manager, she's afraid to lose her job, should I have her call your office and tell your office what this corporate group told her? 1.00

02:48:57.000 her? Absolutely, and I'm going to give you a number for that too, and anybody else that's

02:49:01.000 listening, it's 720-283-9772 and ask for Charles. Alright, 720-283-9772 and Congressman, I want

02:49:17.000 to thank you for coming on while I've been ranting and raving, but we're all feeling

02:49:21.000 We're sick of it, and I know you're sick of it.

02:49:24.000 We appreciate your anger when you're on television.

02:49:27.000 You know, I read a quote by a guy I don't necessarily like very much because of his politics, but it is true. 0.99

02:49:35.000 He was a senator from Arkansas, Dale Bumpers, I think, and he said, I heard they were interviewing him.

02:49:44.000 He said, what's the thing about being retired?

02:49:46.000 How do you like it? 0.99

02:49:47.000 He said, well, I was sitting at home the other day reading about this damn Bush tax cut, he said, and I just hate it. 0.97

02:49:52.000 And I told my wife, I don't know if I'm more frustrated by being here and reading about this and knowing I can't do anything about it or being in Congress and reading about it and knowing I can't do anything about it. 0.98

02:50:03.000 So, believe me, I feel exactly the same way many times.

02:50:06.000 Oh, man.

02:50:08.000 All right, folks.

02:50:09.000 We'll send him everything you've got on the kidnapping.

02:50:13.000 And how many times this year have they shot up Border Patrol vehicles, Congressman?

02:50:17.000 Well, let's see.

02:50:18.000 This year, I think we have had maybe So far, maybe a hundred instances where they've come across the line.

02:50:25.000 I do not know how many specifically were shot or fired at.

02:50:28.000 Not that many, thank God.

02:50:30.000 But they've come over over a hundred times where they've mixed military, have come into the United States of America.

02:50:36.000 I know over almost 300 times in the last five years.

02:50:39.000 Congressman, thank you for joining us.

02:50:41.000 Godspeed.

02:50:41.000 God bless.

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Alex Jones Show - December 12, 2003

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