Alex Jones Show - 20031215_Mon_Alex

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00:00:20.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:25.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:38.000 Hello, my friends.

00:00:40.000 Welcome to another live edition of the Alex Jones Show.

00:00:44.000 I'm chomping at the bit to comment on the supposed capture of Saddam Hussein.

00:00:50.000 I was in Houston, Texas Sunday morning after a successful showing of Road to Tyranny and John Carpenters.

00:00:55.000 They live at the local movie theater there.

00:00:58.000 Great seeing everybody.

00:00:59.000 And I got up that morning, turned on the television, something I rarely do these days, and they were announcing that they had captured the rat.

00:01:08.000 They had the ace in the hole.

00:01:12.000 They had captured Saddam Hussein the day before.

00:01:15.000 And they were announcing it to us.

00:01:18.000 The governor, the American governor of the territory, of the holding, was saying that we have done it.

00:01:27.000 And some Iraqi journalists, about ten of them, jumped up and started hooting and hollering and praising this development.

00:01:32.000 Of course, they didn't point out that if you don't have a pro-coalition news article, you get arrested and your paper gets shut down.

00:01:40.000 They said, look how spontaneous it is.

00:01:43.000 And they showed More spontaneous celebrations on the street.

00:01:46.000 10, 20 people jumping around.

00:01:48.000 Close shots, just like last time.

00:01:50.000 With a pull down of the statue that turned out to be Chalibis people in stage celebration events. 0.99

00:01:57.000 Though Saddam was a horrible thug, he was our thug. 0.98

00:02:00.000 That is, the globalist thug, I should say. 0.93

00:02:03.000 And there's been so many false reports of captures of other people, I thought we'd go over this today.

00:02:10.000 I don't know what to believe.

00:02:12.000 And we're going to open the phones up early in this hour and yes, we'll take dozens and dozens and dozens of calls today.

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00:02:22.000 What do you think is happening?

00:02:24.000 Your chance to respond.

00:02:25.000 I don't know.

00:02:26.000 I know this though.

00:02:28.000 That Saddam they showed during the war with the glasses was not Saddam. 0.52

00:02:33.000 The Israelis and Iranians and others looked at it and said that's not Saddam.

00:02:37.000 I could look at it and tell you it wasn't Saddam, though it was a better body double than the fat guy that they claim was Bin Laden two years ago.

00:02:44.000 Remember that video?

00:02:45.000 The fat guy in the dark room that looked nothing like Bin Laden?

00:02:48.000 Had a nose twice the size of Bin Laden's? 0.75

00:02:53.000 We know that was fake.

00:02:54.000 We know that the Pentagon has planted hundreds of fake letters from troops in newspapers with false signatures.

00:03:00.000 We know they've lied to us about mass graves and mobile weapons trucks and uranium from Niger.

00:03:07.000 We know that they've planted false news stories of impending terror to quote, create hysteria.

00:03:13.000 We know the Jessica Lynch story was a quote, fable.

00:03:17.000 So, I don't know.

00:03:19.000 I told you I thought Jessica Lynch's story stunk to high heaven the day after it happened.

00:03:23.000 Then we found out Jerry Bruckheimer produced it, and it was all lies, and now she has said that.

00:03:29.000 About three months after I said it.

00:03:32.000 And many others said it.

00:03:33.000 I don't know, okay?

00:03:34.000 I'm looking at this, I'm studying this, I've got my gut level understanding, which is usually about 98% accurate.

00:03:42.000 I am occasionally wrong, but I'll tell you what I think's going on in the next segment.

00:03:47.000 And you can bounce it off of me and I can hear what you have to say.

00:03:52.000 I've thought a lot about this.

00:03:53.000 I put my mind to it yesterday.

00:03:56.000 So it's going to be a big show lined up for you.

00:04:01.000 This is what the Israeli intelligence has to say, which doesn't even go along with Bush.

00:04:04.000 Interesting.

00:04:05.000 Indications are Saddam was being held prisoner.

00:04:09.000 That's from the Debka file and that's exactly what I thought as I was driving back from Houston listening to talk radio and the propaganda.

00:04:18.000 Thinking about it, I sat there for an hour eating breakfast in my hotel room, listening to what they were saying, what they were up to, what they were doing, and I came away with, that guy had been a prisoner.

00:04:29.000 And he was drugged.

00:04:30.000 I mean, you know when somebody's on drugs, he was on some type of depressant.

00:04:36.000 That was clear.

00:04:36.000 Looked like somebody hopped up on psychotropics as well, or lithium.

00:04:43.000 The Iranians are still saying that the U.S.

00:04:45.000 government flew them out.

00:04:47.000 We'll go over the history of Saddam, what I think happened.

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00:08:11.000 alex jones on the gcn radio network on the through friday from eleven to two central five nine

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00:08:22.000 on your host alex jones we have open phones on the broadcast today to discuss

00:08:28.000 all the news articles and and and different spins coming out concerning

00:08:34.000 Has he been captured?

00:08:36.000 Was he being held hostage by Republican Guard, paid off by the U.S.

00:08:40.000 government, which they admit they paid off the entire Republican Guard leadership?

00:08:44.000 Is this nothing more than a staged event?

00:08:47.000 Or have they really captured Saddam hiding in a rat hole, as they've said?

00:08:52.000 The ace in the hole?

00:08:55.000 Look, I can care less about Saddam Hussein.

00:08:59.000 The guy was a CIA assassin in 1954.

00:09:04.000 He was put in at the direction of the U.S.

00:09:06.000 government as the head of the Ba'ath security apparatus.

00:09:10.000 In the late 60s and the late 70s he became the Iraqi dictator.

00:09:14.000 He was funded by our government when he committed all of these atrocities.

00:09:18.000 I love how they talk about the atrocities he's committed.

00:09:21.000 I was watching CBS and ABC this weekend, yesterday, and they were saying He committed atrocities against the Iranians.

00:09:30.000 He viciously attacked them.

00:09:33.000 I'm thinking, yeah, under U.S. 0.99

00:09:35.000 government control and funding and orders, it's just so hypocritical. 0.90

00:09:40.000 And compared to North Korea, compared to China, that Bush just cut Taiwan loose to, compared to all these other people, compared to Russia, Saddam Hussein is nothing! 0.50

00:09:52.000 And I've had the former top CIA people on this show in the Reagan administration where they say Saddam did not nerve gas those Kurds.

00:09:59.000 It was the Iranians. 0.97

00:10:00.000 They did the blood test.

00:10:02.000 There were congressional hearings.

00:10:03.000 They were hit with cyanide gas, which was used by the Iranians, sold to them by the Soviets, not sarin or VX. 0.98

00:10:11.000 But Saddam is a thug. 0.85

00:10:13.000 Saddam did torture people. 0.97

00:10:15.000 I mean, Bush's speech about, there'll be no more secret police, there'll be no more torture.

00:10:22.000 They've set up Chalibi, the former lieutenant of the Shah, who was the number two man in the Iranian torture squads under the Shah.

00:10:31.000 That's admitted!

00:10:33.000 He's a convicted bank robber in Jordan, our ally.

00:10:37.000 They've been torturing people all over the country to death.

00:10:40.000 It's admitted! 0.70

00:10:43.000 And so they talk about the end of torture, and then I hear the news bragging, hmm, Saddam may get tortured, and I hear these people going, Saddam's such a thug, he tortured people, and five minutes later, yeah, let's torture him! 0.51

00:10:54.000 You're engaging in double-think out there.

00:10:57.000 It's like we've won the Super Bowl or something, and oh, this is a great victory, we've captured Saddam, let's not have any politics, let's savor this for the troops.

00:11:09.000 If you really cared about the troops, you'd get past Norman Rockwell images of Bush with the fake turkey presentations.

00:11:17.000 You know, not for eating, just for looking.

00:11:19.000 You would get past all that and get into real stuff like them not getting their pay, the troops going on food stamps, their families.

00:11:28.000 CPS grabbing their children while they're out of the country.

00:11:31.000 That's been coming up.

00:11:33.000 The deadly vaccines they're being given.

00:11:35.000 The smallpox, the anthrax, admittedly deadly.

00:11:38.000 The 1,900 times the safe depleted uranium level that our troops are breathing.

00:11:45.000 The first Gulf War troops were three times more likely to have deformed children, lung cancer, you name it.

00:11:50.000 A lot of it from the depleted uranium.

00:11:51.000 They hired Dr. Rook, the Army doctor, sent him over there to disprove it.

00:11:55.000 He resigned and said it's true, they've got radiation lesions and bleeding intestines, classical radiation sickness, bleeding gums.

00:12:04.000 And they use roughly ten times the level of depleted uranium in this Gulf War than they did in the last Gulf War.

00:12:11.000 And the same sicknesses are showing up now in Serbia, where they use this stuff. 1.00

00:12:16.000 And our troops are breathing it!

00:12:17.000 You may not care about the Iraqis, but I care about our troops, folks, and I care about the Iraqis, too.

00:12:24.000 So, folks, I've got to tell the story now to let you understand why I'm so frustrated.

00:12:31.000 I showed Road to Tyranny and Another film at the movie theater in Houston.

00:12:36.000 Great seeing everybody.

00:12:36.000 Big success.

00:12:38.000 And so I get up Sunday morning, and I'm eating breakfast in the hotel room.

00:12:44.000 And I turn on the news at like 9 o'clock, 8 o'clock in the morning, and there's Saddam captured.

00:12:50.000 And so I watch that for a few hours, leave, and I'm driving back to Austin, three and a half hours, listening to Houston talk radio, Austin talk radio, and San Antonio talk radio.

00:13:02.000 And briefly, Dallas.

00:13:03.000 I listen to three local shows and part of a syndicated show.

00:13:06.000 I call into three local shows on big, you know, 50,000 watt AMs.

00:13:14.000 I call into them and I say, well, I just want to point out that Bush cut Taiwan loose, and so they could be on their own violating our treaty with them.

00:13:21.000 China's a much greater threat, more abuse than Saddam ever thought of. 0.83

00:13:25.000 Why are we talking about Saddam as, quote, the next Hitler being captured?

00:13:30.000 But not talking about how our government funded and created him and they'd say, thanks for your opinion and hang up on me.

00:13:36.000 So I'd call back and I'd go, this is Kevin. 0.93

00:13:41.000 I think they ought to hang that piece of filth. 0.97

00:13:44.000 And I think we ought to arrest anybody that disagrees with Bush. 0.99

00:13:48.000 Sir, let us get you right on.

00:13:50.000 Let us get you right on.

00:13:52.000 And they would put me on the air and I'd suddenly switch back to my regular, you know, Alex Jones and I'd say, uh, I'd shift out of character.

00:13:58.000 I'd say, you know, we put Saddam in power and told him to invade Kuwait and told him to attack Iran and, uh, you know, he is a thug, but compared to all these other people, he's nothing.

00:14:08.000 And the PNAC documents say that they want, uh, you know, wanted to have terrorists excused to get the oil, that Saddam wasn't a threat.

00:14:15.000 Dick Cheney wrote that.

00:14:18.000 And the host would hang up on me and go, how dare you say you were for the President, or for this, and then come on and do that.

00:14:24.000 You lied!

00:14:25.000 But by them doing that, they showed they were censoring the calls.

00:14:30.000 And I would try to call in first, and get on, you know, telling them what I plan to talk about.

00:14:34.000 They're trying to stop the First Amendment. 1.00

00:14:36.000 So then I called in a local Austin station, after the President's namesake, LBJ, And I try to get on and they say, thanks for your opinion and hang up on me.

00:14:48.000 Don't put me on air.

00:14:50.000 And so then I call back and give them a fake name and tell them I just, you know, totally agree with the president.

00:14:55.000 I'm right on air.

00:14:57.000 And the host knew who I was and says, this is Alex Jones, isn't it?

00:15:00.000 Yeah, it's Alex Jones.

00:15:00.000 He hangs up on me and goes, look how dishonest you are calling in and saying, but again, they were showing that they were censoring the calls.

00:15:08.000 And then I called up, I think about six or seven of my friends here locally, had them all call into that local show.

00:15:15.000 And I instructed them to first call in and say that they were for exposing the government connection with Saddam.

00:15:24.000 They'd keep them on hold for 20 minutes, not go to them or hang up on them.

00:15:24.000 They wouldn't let them on.

00:15:29.000 And so I told them, OK, now call in and say you agree.

00:15:35.000 And of course they got right on.

00:15:37.000 Folks, think about this.

00:15:40.000 I mean, when you're listening to regular talk radio, that's what's going on.

00:15:45.000 And so only the people that thought it was like a major football victory or something, only the people that thought we just won the Super Bowl and, THIS IS SUCH A VICTORY!

00:15:54.000 Before I got home, I pulled in to get gas in South Austin.

00:15:57.000 People are walking out with cases of beer, people are giving each other high fives, and I go, so it's a celebration, YEAH BABY, WE'RE GONNA PARTY, YEAH!

00:16:07.000 And I was just going, WOAH!

00:16:11.000 So, and that's the way the media presented it.

00:16:14.000 Ooh, this really shows Bush was right about the war.

00:16:16.000 He captured Saddam. 0.91

00:16:17.000 What does that mean?

00:16:19.000 It means absolutely nothing.

00:16:22.000 So I haven't made up my mind from all the indicators of what's going on here, but I would suspect, in probability, we know that they flew the Taliban and Al Qaeda out of Afghanistan.

00:16:32.000 They worked with the CIA.

00:16:33.000 That was totally staged.

00:16:34.000 That's admitted.

00:16:35.000 We know they flew the Bin Ladens out on 9-11 and Bush Sr. 0.81

00:16:38.000 was meeting with the Senior Bin Laden in D.C.

00:16:40.000 and we know that the Pakistan Intelligence said he wired $100,000 to Ada was meeting with the House and Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman.

00:16:46.000 We know that was all staged.

00:16:48.000 They flew them out, too, out of this country.

00:16:51.000 144 of them, not just the 8,000 out of Afghanistan in the middle of that war.

00:16:55.000 That was totally staged.

00:16:57.000 So all this is happening.

00:16:59.000 We know all that, and then we know Rumsfeld got up before the war and said, we've paid off two groups of Republican Guard, only one more group to pay off.

00:17:07.000 This is press conferences, I have them on tape.

00:17:10.000 We have paid off two of the major army groups, only one more army group left.

00:17:15.000 And then after the war, Rumsfeld says, we never paid anybody off.

00:17:17.000 They fought to the fullest.

00:17:19.000 I never said that.

00:17:20.000 And he was in front of thousands of, you know, cameras and TVs, and no one called him on it.

00:17:26.000 And we know that they met with Republican Guard Generals.

00:17:29.000 We know they flew them out and paid them off.

00:17:32.000 That's now totally admitted.

00:17:35.000 And even the Israelis are saying, which I'm surprised by, they're saying it looks like Republican Guard were holding Saddam down in that pit.

00:17:43.000 That was more like a prison.

00:17:44.000 The Viet Cong used those on us. 0.98

00:17:46.000 It's a little man trap.

00:17:48.000 Dig a hole, line it, stick somebody down in it. 0.89

00:17:50.000 It's total control.

00:17:53.000 And it looks like they were keeping him on ice to then bring him out.

00:17:57.000 He looked drugged.

00:17:58.000 He looked like he'd been beat up.

00:18:00.000 He had swelling all over his face, which the Israelis point out, which I had noticed, like he's been beaten a lot the last few months.

00:18:07.000 Because when you've really been savagely beaten, all the bruising doesn't go away around the eyes.

00:18:12.000 There's still a general puffiness, a raise.

00:18:15.000 You can see some new scars on his face that weren't there.

00:18:19.000 And, uh, he looked like he was hopped up.

00:18:22.000 And, in fact, everybody was saying that.

00:18:23.000 Man, he looks like he's drugged!

00:18:27.000 So, you look at that, you know, I found out from a high-level Bush administration official that I cannot name, a lot of them live here in Austin, that on Air Force One, Bush Sr.

00:18:36.000 bragged that they've got bin Laden dead from kidney failure, part of an agreement with his family.

00:18:41.000 And I've been saying this for two years, plan to roll him out right about a month before the election.

00:18:51.000 And I don't know if this is the case.

00:18:54.000 But I don't know if they're trying to give me disinfo.

00:18:57.000 But this is classic.

00:18:59.000 And I said they can roll the weapons of mass destruction out right before the new year.

00:19:04.000 Right before the election.

00:19:06.000 Now this is a classic, classic, classic tactic.

00:19:09.000 But when we get back, we'll go over The Debka file that's on InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.

00:19:17.000 Indications are Saddam was being held prisoner.

00:19:19.000 His own people were trying to collect a $25 million reward.

00:19:26.000 That'll be their spin, of course.

00:19:29.000 Analysis capture has few initial gains other than poll increases.

00:19:32.000 We'll get to what Greg Powell has to say.

00:19:35.000 I want to go over the history of fake arrests.

00:19:41.000 Chemical Ali outlive death reports.

00:19:43.000 Captured Al Qaeda man was FBI spy.

00:19:46.000 Was mastermind really captured?

00:19:47.000 Mystery surrounds convenient arrest of Al Qaeda's mastermind by September 11th.

00:19:52.000 Pakistan accused of staging Bin Laden aid arrest.

00:19:56.000 There's hundreds of these on Prison Planet right now.

00:19:59.000 Mainstream news where they've done other staged events where it turns out the people they're arresting are really FBI or CIA.

00:20:06.000 We'll be back.

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00:24:08.000 Music Alright, coming up here in just a few minutes I'm going to

00:24:20.000 start going to your calls.

00:24:21.000 Manuel and Kevin and Paul and Dylan and Charles and everybody else is patiently holding, and I appreciate your patience.

00:24:28.000 As I said, we'll take a lot of calls on this situation today.

00:24:32.000 But when you think about the fake Jessica Lynch capture, rescue, the fake letters posted in the newspapers by the Pentagon, There's been like five cases where they bust Al Qaeda lieutenants and then they get caught secretly releasing them and paying them off because they're known CIA or FBI agents.

00:24:52.000 It's just totally staged.

00:24:53.000 They have staged arrests.

00:24:55.000 Well, we know that Saddam Hussein in 1954, when he was 19 years old, Was hired and taken to Cairo for two years for intensive assassination training.

00:25:08.000 He killed dozens of Iraqi officials.

00:25:11.000 He was vicious. 0.92

00:25:12.000 He was wounded in an unsuccessful attempt to kill the Iraqi president, though he did shoot him. 0.80

00:25:19.000 And I don't believe he killed the driver going from memory.

00:25:21.000 I've got the articles here in front of me.

00:25:23.000 And then he was put in as the new security chief in in in 68, 67.

00:25:28.000 Then in 76 he became Iraqi dictator.

00:25:31.000 They told him to attack Iran.

00:25:32.000 They told him go ahead and attack Kuwait. 0.92

00:25:34.000 He was always following orders.

00:25:36.000 He's nothing compared to China. 1.00

00:25:37.000 He's nothing compared.

00:25:40.000 Uh, to any of these people that our government is funding and training and never talking about them. 0.98

00:25:45.000 I mean, they kill Christians, take their organs in China. 0.99

00:25:48.000 You don't hear any big discussion of that. 0.98

00:25:50.000 But it's Saddam such a murderer, what he did to the Iranians! 0.99

00:25:55.000 He's so bad.

00:25:59.000 So, we don't know what to believe, but let me read this Debka File article and then we'll go to the loaded phone lines.

00:26:05.000 Indications are Saddam was being held prisoner.

00:26:08.000 A number of questions are raised by the incredible, bedraggled, tired, and crushed condition of this once savage dapper and pampered ruler who was discovered in a hole in the ground on Saturday, December 13th.

00:26:23.000 The length and state of his hair indicated it had not seen a barber or even a shampoo for several weeks.

00:26:29.000 The wild state of the beard indicated he had not shaved for the same period.

00:26:33.000 The hole dug in the floor of the cellar is a farm compound near Tikrit.

00:26:37.000 It was primitive indeed.

00:26:39.000 Six feet across and eight feet across with minimal sanitary arrangements.

00:26:44.000 A far cry from his opulent palaces.

00:26:47.000 Saddam looked beaten and hungry. 0.74

00:26:49.000 Detained with him were two unidentified men.

00:26:51.000 Two gay, eight-and-forty-seven assault Rifles and a pistol, none of which were used.

00:26:57.000 We've been told that, folks.

00:26:58.000 The hole was only one opening.

00:27:00.000 It was not only camouflaged with mud bricks.

00:27:03.000 It was also blocked.

00:27:04.000 He could not have climbed out with someone on the outside removing the covering.

00:27:09.000 And most important, the $750,000 and $100 notes were found with him, but no communications equipment of any kind, whether cell phone or even carrier pigeon, for contacting the outside world.

00:27:20.000 According to Debka file analysis, Analysts, these seven abnormalities point to one conclusion.

00:27:29.000 Saddam Hussein was not in hiding. 0.61

00:27:31.000 He was a prisoner.

00:27:32.000 That's exactly what I thought an hour into watching the news.

00:27:37.000 After his last audio tape message was delivered and aired on Al Arabiya TV on Sunday, November 16th, on the occasion of Ramadan, Saddam was seized, possibly with the convenience of his own men, and held in the hole in Adwar for three weeks or more, which could have accounted for his appearance and condition.

00:27:57.000 Meanwhile, his captors bargained for the 25 million prize the Americans promised for information leading to his capture, alive or dead.

00:28:04.000 The negotiators were Mediated by Jahal Tahmini's Kurdish P.U.K. 0.88

00:28:10.000 Militia.

00:28:11.000 These circumstances would explain the ex-ruler's docile, docility described by Lieutenant General Sanchez as resignation in the face of his capture by U.S.

00:28:22.000 forces.

00:28:23.000 He must have regarded them as his rescuers and would have greeted them with relief.

00:28:30.000 And from General Sanchez's evasive answers to questions on the $25 million bounty, it would be inferred that the Americans and Kurds took advantage of the negotiations with Saddam's abductors to move in close and capture him on their own account for three reasons.

00:28:43.000 And we'll go over those reasons later in the hour.

00:28:45.000 I want to come back and go to your calls.

00:28:48.000 And there's some spin in this article too, but yes.

00:28:50.000 I mean, the guy's been beat like a ball-headed stepchild.

00:28:55.000 The guy was hopped up on something.

00:28:57.000 They probably dropped some knockout gas in there five hours before.

00:29:01.000 They had a seven, eight hour timing.

00:29:03.000 They went in there, hauled him out, took him to the Baghdad airport, stuck him up there in front of everybody.

00:29:08.000 And then there's the question of body doubles, because they admit he had ten body doubles.

00:29:12.000 And I'll tell you, he looks like the real Saddam. 0.99

00:29:14.000 That guy they put up there with the glasses on TV, different bone structure, different nose, different lips, little chicken neck. 0.89

00:29:21.000 Saddam had a big old fat neck. 0.59

00:29:24.000 Uh, that was not Saddam Hussein, so we know there's body doubles mixed in here. 0.95

00:29:28.000 And Dan Rather had to respond to this.

00:29:29.000 We've tested his DNA, we've tested his teeth, it's him.

00:29:34.000 How did he know that just a few hours after they announced it?

00:29:36.000 They didn't.

00:29:37.000 There's no proof of that.

00:29:38.000 So, Dan Rather's trying to allay your concerns.

00:29:42.000 After all these staged arrests, after all this staged business, I don't know.

00:29:47.000 But I know this, we're being lied to about some of these facts.

00:29:50.000 We've been lied to about every fact in Iraq up to this.

00:29:53.000 Will this be a lot like all the others?

00:29:54.000 We'll find out.

00:29:55.000 Your call straight ahead.

00:29:59.000 We're on the march.

00:30:00.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:19.000 The DEVCO file that we have a link to on Infowars.com is made up of former and current Mossad and others.

00:33:25.000 That's why I'm very surprised To see them coming out and being honest with their analysis because it's exactly what I, the conclusion I came to about an hour into watching the footage Sunday morning of the disheveled, bedraggled, ace in the hole, cockroach in the hole.

00:33:45.000 Again, I'm no fan of Saddam Hussein.

00:33:48.000 The problem is it's like taking a lower demon and giving it unto Satan and thinking Satan is going to do something good.

00:33:54.000 And that's how the globalists make themselves look good.

00:33:56.000 They create a Hitler, they create a Lenin, they create a Mao, put them in power, and then tell us how good they are fighting them. 0.57

00:34:03.000 And it's a historical fact that they create all these people.

00:34:07.000 We're about to go to these loaded phone lines, but the Israelis are saying, look, this guy's been beat up.

00:34:11.000 He'd obviously, you know, been tortured.

00:34:14.000 He'd been held captive.

00:34:16.000 Folks, there were videotapes of Saddam out with guys with guns around him in different Iraq cities two or three weeks after the takeover.

00:34:25.000 He had no facial hair other than a mustache.

00:34:27.000 I looked at that beard.

00:34:29.000 It has to be at least six inches long in places.

00:34:31.000 The fastest a beard can grow is a little over a half inch a month.

00:34:35.000 We're just saying three quarters of an inch a month.

00:34:37.000 To make it, you know, impossible, it wouldn't be that long.

00:34:42.000 And again, he has CIA control over him going back to 1954 when he was an assassin.

00:34:47.000 We're going to go over that news today.

00:34:49.000 We have Ronald Reagan's chief CIA advisor, Ray McGovern, joining us in the next hour to take your calls.

00:34:56.000 Let's go to the calls now.

00:34:57.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Manuel in Pennsylvania.

00:35:00.000 Your chance to respond with what you think is going on.

00:35:02.000 Go ahead.

00:35:04.000 Alex, this one looks kind of sloppy.

00:35:06.000 Because when they threw him in there, You can see a specific, direct indication of manipulation and insertion of theatrics.

00:35:13.000 When they say that he had Mars Bars in there, the Red Planet, the God of War, that's a direct message there.

00:35:18.000 You see their intent for the theatrics, how they placed it.

00:35:22.000 And for those that doubt it, it sounds crazy.

00:35:24.000 It's like leaving the skull and bones card at the sniper scenes.

00:35:27.000 It's like on the one year anniversary of 9-11, the New York Lottery 9-11, the Chicago Mercantile 9-11.

00:35:37.000 Very bizarre.

00:35:37.000 I did see that.

00:35:39.000 That shows their intent for manipulation and insertion of theatrics.

00:35:44.000 Right there.

00:35:46.000 He did look like he was placed there.

00:35:47.000 It's obviously Saddam. 0.94

00:35:48.000 At first, my first reaction, before I turned on the TV, was, is it Saddam?

00:35:53.000 Then I said, you know what, it looks like it is Saddam, but was he placed in there? 0.89

00:35:56.000 Well, remember the guy with the little chicken neck and the mustache?

00:36:00.000 That was worse.

00:36:03.000 Well, they later had to admit that was one of his doubles.

00:36:06.000 The Israelis, the Egyptians, the Iranians said, that is not him.

00:36:09.000 And you could tell it wasn't him.

00:36:11.000 This looks like Saddam, folks. 0.94

00:36:12.000 Well, you know that Always the main ingredient in their little concoctions of stage events and manipulation is always hypocrisy, number one.

00:36:20.000 And two, is they rely on a lack of memory within the American psyche.

00:36:25.000 You're very familiar with that yourself.

00:36:27.000 We talk about it all the time.

00:36:28.000 People do not have a long, not even a long, a A minor short-term memory.

00:36:34.000 Well, this is being looked at, Manuel, like it's a football game.

00:36:37.000 Like, we just made a big touchdown.

00:36:40.000 I'll tell you, my family members, I was here on the couch listening to my shortwave when my father came down here.

00:36:45.000 It was, we got him, we got him, we won.

00:36:46.000 I said, who won?

00:36:47.000 He said, Bush won.

00:36:48.000 I said, what are you talking about?

00:36:49.000 Then we got Saddam. 0.96

00:36:50.000 I said, you know what?

00:36:51.000 What does that change in Iraq?

00:36:53.000 Does that change the situation?

00:36:54.000 How long has Saddam Hussein been contracted by the CIA?

00:36:58.000 How many lives are we losing?

00:36:59.000 Well, that's my point, is all these terrorists and dictators, they have to admit we're CIA!

00:37:04.000 Well, they still are!

00:37:05.000 And who will they put into power now?

00:37:07.000 And what changes here on the ground?

00:37:07.000 And what changes?

00:37:09.000 Do we have a First Amendment back?

00:37:11.000 No, we don't.

00:37:12.000 Do we get the second to keep that?

00:37:13.000 No, we don't.

00:37:14.000 Do they recognize our rights now?

00:37:16.000 Thanks for the call, Manuel.

00:37:16.000 No, they do not.

00:37:17.000 Good points.

00:37:18.000 And that's the point I was trying to make in Bush's speech at noon.

00:37:22.000 Or at 11.30 or whenever it was.

00:37:25.000 It was 11, excuse me.

00:37:26.000 He gets up there 11 Central.

00:37:29.000 Bush gets up there and says, no more secret police, no more torture chambers.

00:37:33.000 The guy they got running, Baghdad, Chalibi, was the second in command of the dreaded Iranian torture forces under the Shah. 0.81

00:37:41.000 Now that's admitted!

00:37:45.000 Our ally, it's not like it's serious saying, our ally Jordan is demanding they turn him over and they said no.

00:37:52.000 He is a convicted bank robber.

00:37:55.000 They've been torturing the daylights out of people.

00:37:57.000 They've hired most of the Ba'athists back. 1.00

00:38:00.000 Paid them off before the war even began.

00:38:02.000 That's admitted.

00:38:04.000 And folks, I don't think it's three weeks that the Iraqis had him in that hole trying to make a deal.

00:38:09.000 I think it's four or five months.

00:38:12.000 Okay? 0.99

00:38:13.000 If they didn't tell him he was getting on a plane to Russia, fly it out and fly that sucker right back. 0.99

00:38:19.000 And believe me, his face had puffy spots all over it from bruises months ago. 0.98

00:38:24.000 As the Israelis say, he clearly had been beaten up one side and down the other.

00:38:29.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Kevin in North Carolina.

00:38:31.000 Kevin, you're on the air.

00:38:32.000 Hey, how you doing, Alex?

00:38:33.000 Good.

00:38:34.000 Listen, I'm riding land with you on that Saddam. 0.97

00:38:37.000 About time to bring him up to the top of the hole with that Halliburton stuff coming out, won't it?

00:38:42.000 Yeah, Halliburton in no-bid contracts and overcharging the Pentagon.

00:38:47.000 $1.2 trillion missing in the last eight years from the Pentagon.

00:38:51.000 Let's just forget about that.

00:38:52.000 Let's talk about the big victory.

00:38:54.000 We got Saddam. 0.97

00:38:56.000 Well, not to jump subject with you, but how about this U.N.

00:38:59.000 thing in Macedonia where they're handing out lottery tickets to get you turning your weapons?

00:39:04.000 Uh, everywhere the U.N.

00:39:06.000 goes they confiscate the guns and our troops are getting good training doing it.

00:39:09.000 Yeah, well they said it won't, won't mostly collect because of course there ain't but 55 billion of them running around the world and uh, they were upset because they won't get nothing but mostly hunting guns and uh, right after that they said if you didn't turn it in you'd get 10, 15 years in prison.

00:39:24.000 Sounds like freedom.

00:39:26.000 Yeah, getting free every day.

00:39:28.000 Yeah, they could own guns in Iraq, but not in the countries where the globalists get their way.

00:39:33.000 Well, we're the last ones that's got them there about, so it's about time for them to start something.

00:39:37.000 This reminds me of Clinton's little deal back in there, you know.

00:39:40.000 I should have known we had trouble when he was up on there doing the Macarena, you know.

00:39:45.000 You know, same old stuff.

00:39:47.000 You can't get rid of these people.

00:39:48.000 They keep coming back, and I guess Lord Bush will be running if he loses.

00:39:52.000 What do you think about how I've tried to call into talk shows, and when I'm trying to expose this, they won't let me on the air? 1.00

00:40:00.000 Well, it's power with stupidity is all it is. 0.96

00:40:03.000 I try to work on them too, but I tell you... How do you get a board operator and a radio station to censor calls out that disagree? 0.99

00:40:11.000 Well, you threaten his job, Alex.

00:40:13.000 That's what you do.

00:40:14.000 That's how you get a lot of men to do a lot of things they wouldn't do. 0.95

00:40:17.000 But, I mean, I just hope the listeners realize that most of these stations, when you hear everybody buying this, that they're censoring the calls.

00:40:24.000 Thanks for the call.

00:40:25.000 Again, I had like five, six, I guess it was seven people call this one local station, and they wouldn't let them on the air.

00:40:32.000 And they're acting like that they are not censoring people.

00:40:38.000 That's one of the local stations here in Austin that I am not on.

00:40:41.000 So you just think about that, folks, when you're listening to that station.

00:40:44.000 Let's talk to Paul in New Jersey.

00:40:46.000 Paul, you're on the air.

00:40:47.000 Welcome.

00:40:48.000 Alex, I think the timing of this was uncanny, because the weather on the East Coast was bleak and horrible in the population centers in the United States.

00:41:00.000 And so everybody was at home.

00:41:03.000 And of course, they sprung it on an early Sunday morning, which makes it the perfect news time.

00:41:08.000 So they knew it was going to disseminate.

00:41:14.000 Well, also, right when Britain wants to back out of the war for power and oil and weapons sales, right when Bush is about to speak, two British entrants get bombed.

00:41:25.000 Every time they were denying that Saddam was with Al-Qaeda, bin Laden releases a tape saying, I'm with Saddam.

00:41:31.000 Every time Clinton gets caught with his pants down, then Lydon blows something up.

00:41:31.000 Yes.

00:41:35.000 And then now, with the Halliburton news, the plunging approval ratings, all the corruption coming out, they capture Saddam, a beaten and obviously drugged Saddam, in a hole in the ground.

00:41:47.000 Yeah, one thing about this too that I kind of am going to dread, because the one thing I would hope to get out of a man who's probably going to be given the death penalty, is I'd like to see his, like a testament, Or a quick autobiography of his put out by his jailors.

00:42:06.000 And you know this, they're not going to let this happen.

00:42:08.000 Because he would be able to explain exactly what him and Rumsfeld discussed back in 1983.

00:42:12.000 No, no, no.

00:42:13.000 About a week before he's killed, just like with the Patsy Lee Harvey McVeigh, he will admit to everything.

00:42:21.000 Yeah.

00:42:21.000 And it won't be on video, it'll be text.

00:42:24.000 And he will admit to everything.

00:42:24.000 Yeah.

00:42:27.000 Yeah, and of course having done it all on his own volition and never with any American intervention.

00:42:32.000 Yes, he'll say, I never worked with the CIA, I work with Al-Qaeda, I had lots of nuclear weapons, yeah.

00:42:41.000 Yeah, and also I targeted the Iranians with the chemical weapons on my own and I didn't need any satellite imagery. 0.96

00:42:48.000 Exactly, thank you for the call Paul, great points.

00:42:51.000 Dylan in Texas, thanks for holding sir.

00:42:53.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:42:54.000 Thanks for being of service today, and thanks for bringing us this information and opinions about Saddam.

00:42:59.000 Unfortunately, I feel... I'll tell you, I'm having a hard time today keeping my head above water, keeping my attitude right.

00:43:10.000 I'm a veteran.

00:43:12.000 A bunch of my friends of mine served about the time I did about a decade ago.

00:43:18.000 I was very fortunate.

00:43:20.000 Not to go to Iraq, one of my friends did, and the Marines.

00:43:27.000 And, you know, it's just like our media focuses on the lives of the rich and famous.

00:43:35.000 And we're so dumbed down that we focus on that, too.

00:43:39.000 And I appreciate you bringing this topic up, Alex, but it just shows how much we're all affected.

00:43:45.000 We have to focus on the lives of the rich and famous when There's, what is it, 1,000 times the safe and healthy amounts of radiation going on in Baghdad?

00:44:00.000 1,900 times. 1,900 times the safe level, dozens of news agencies, dozens of medical centers,

00:44:10.000 It is a fact.

00:44:11.000 The Army's own scientists went public and said this is killing our troops, killing the Iraqis.

00:44:17.000 It is deadly.

00:44:18.000 Our troops have tripled the rate of deformed children.

00:44:21.000 This is a fact.

00:44:23.000 But no, the good old boys won't discuss that while getting drunk, going, we got Saddam! 0.97

00:44:28.000 We got Saddam! 1.00

00:44:29.000 I saw people running out of the stores with cases of beer for the celebration.

00:44:34.000 They told us, celebrate tonight!

00:44:36.000 Oh, I know.

00:44:37.000 Celebrate America!

00:44:38.000 Get drunk while our troops die for the globalists! 0.95

00:44:41.000 Alex, I'm really trying to keep my attitude right when I'm speaking to people and really trying not to fly off the handle.

00:44:48.000 I'm really trying to talk intelligently because a lot of people, they just don't think about People who are serving right now, or the veterans.

00:44:56.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:44:57.000 Hey, I appreciate the call.

00:44:58.000 I mean, to them, caring about the troops is not caring if they're giving smallpox or anthrax shots, proving to make them sick, not caring if they're huffing depleted uranium.

00:45:07.000 Think of the crimes the globalists committed.

00:45:09.000 Three months ago, a BBC article came out We didn't know Project Shad went until 85.

00:45:15.000 We always thought it was suspended in late 1979.

00:45:17.000 It was declassified.

00:45:19.000 The British government admitted it.

00:45:21.000 In a joint exercise with the U.S.

00:45:22.000 as late as 85, they would have U.S. 0.76

00:45:24.000 and British troops stand out in a field, spray them with nerve gas.

00:45:27.000 Some would die on the spot.

00:45:29.000 Some would die a week later.

00:45:31.000 Some survived.

00:45:32.000 We're talking about hundreds of troops they killed.

00:45:35.000 Our government, killing our troops, knowing what it would do.

00:45:39.000 And it said no one's going to be charged because the porting down scientists followed U.S.

00:45:43.000 and British government orders.

00:45:45.000 No one's going to... You have a government that will nerve gas our own troops in a field. 0.98

00:45:50.000 They did dozens of these experiments.

00:45:52.000 We have a government who admits thousands of times releasing radiation, chemicals, biologicals over U.S.

00:45:57.000 cities.

00:45:59.000 They're doing it still today, folks.

00:46:01.000 This is all declassified.

00:46:02.000 We have an FBI that's been caught running the prostitutes, the drugs, the murder-for-hire all over the country, crime labs, federal and state and local, framing people.

00:46:11.000 It's all over the news every day.

00:46:14.000 Again, this is a criminal government.

00:46:16.000 That's the point.

00:46:17.000 It isn't the U.S. 0.96

00:46:18.000 government.

00:46:19.000 And you've got a bunch of compartmentalized people in the CIA, the FBI, and others that are good people that don't understand what the higher-ups are up to.

00:46:27.000 And the criminal mass is growing, getting bigger and more powerful.

00:46:30.000 And lying about more and more.

00:46:32.000 To the point of, we don't know what to believe anymore.

00:46:36.000 Everything they've said about Iraq has been a lie.

00:46:39.000 And I always say, let's give it time, let's look at it.

00:46:41.000 I don't know what happened with Saddam.

00:46:43.000 I don't know if he was flown out of the country, though they said he was.

00:46:46.000 I know they paid off the Republican Guard.

00:46:48.000 I know this guy was obviously being held prisoner.

00:46:50.000 It's obvious from all the indicators.

00:46:52.000 And again, the Mossad agrees with me.

00:46:54.000 How weird is that?

00:46:57.000 Again, what do you do?

00:46:59.000 What do you say?

00:47:00.000 Charles in California, thanks for holding her on the air, my friend.

00:47:03.000 Hey, how you doing?

00:47:04.000 I haven't talked to you in a while.

00:47:06.000 Good to hear from you, sir.

00:47:07.000 Welcome.

00:47:07.000 Yeah, listen, I don't watch mainstream TV anymore, so I haven't really seen the pictures or anything, but I probably tend to agree with what you say.

00:47:16.000 It's probably just a phony vote-getting thing, like, let's have a celebration, nothing else going on.

00:47:23.000 So, I don't really know too much about the Saddam thing.

00:47:26.000 I think it's... What are they going to do?

00:47:29.000 Draw and quarter the poor guy?

00:47:30.000 I mean, not that I have anything to say positive about him, but I mean... Let's be honest about Saddam Hussein. 0.98

00:47:40.000 He's a tough guy.

00:47:41.000 He climbed up the ranks. 0.98

00:47:44.000 He's a CIA killer. 0.99

00:47:46.000 He murdered communists. 1.00

00:47:47.000 He murdered their families. 1.00

00:47:49.000 He bombed them. 1.00

00:47:50.000 He stabbed them. 1.00

00:47:50.000 He shot them. 1.00

00:47:52.000 The estimates are that Saddam Hussein personally, with his own hands, killed over a hundred people for the U.S.

00:47:58.000 government.

00:47:59.000 Okay?

00:48:00.000 He was a secular, right-wing, anti-communist.

00:48:04.000 And our government put him in power and told him to attack Iran, which was funded by the Soviets. 0.55

00:48:09.000 We got the former deputy for Ronald Reagan, top CIA guy for Ronald Reagan coming out.

00:48:13.000 I'll tell you all this next hour.

00:48:16.000 And he did his job.

00:48:17.000 He followed his orders fighting communists.

00:48:19.000 They told him to invade Kuwait.

00:48:21.000 He did it.

00:48:22.000 And then all this happened.

00:48:24.000 No, I don't support Saddam Hussein. 1.00

00:48:25.000 He's a dangerous killer. 0.98

00:48:27.000 But compared to North Korea or China, that our government's armed into the teeth, he's nothing! 0.96

00:48:32.000 He's not a boogeyman!

00:48:34.000 Or what we're doing over there in Iraq, too.

00:48:36.000 What's the difference?

00:48:38.000 What's been going on over there?

00:48:40.000 All the reports you hear and stuff.

00:48:43.000 Innocent people getting slaughtered and that.

00:48:45.000 For what?

00:48:47.000 Also, I wanted to ask you, did you ever hear of Nassera before?

00:48:51.000 Yeah, it's not real.

00:48:54.000 No, it's a government propaganda piece that there's a secret bill that America's okay, and there's patriots, and Washington's already gotten rid of the Federal Reserve.

00:48:54.000 It isn't?

00:49:05.000 It is total propaganda to make people think everything's okay, as they set up martial law publicly.

00:49:11.000 Oh yeah, I just heard something about it.

00:49:13.000 I looked at their website, but I don't know what to draw on it.

00:49:16.000 I'm glad you know about it.

00:49:18.000 Also, did you know you're in David Icke's new book?

00:49:22.000 Are you familiar with David Icke at all?

00:49:24.000 Yes.

00:49:24.000 No, I didn't know.

00:49:25.000 I'm in the new book.

00:49:27.000 He mentioned your trip to the Bohemian Grove on page 308, and he also mentioned the video is available on Infowars.com.

00:49:36.000 Well, I appreciate that.

00:49:37.000 Thanks for the call, Charles.

00:49:39.000 Mark in Rhode Island.

00:49:40.000 Mark, you're on the air.

00:49:40.000 Go ahead.

00:49:43.000 Good to talk to you, Mark.

00:49:45.000 Great.

00:49:47.000 I was able to spend some time this weekend with my 14-year-old son and get him some weekends.

00:49:55.000 We turned the TV on in the morning and I saw Saddam was captured and whatnot.

00:50:00.000 I've been telling him a couple of years now about the NWO and about you.

00:50:05.000 Actually, I had him watch Online, your video of 9-1-1, the road to tyranny.

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00:50:13.000 Yeah, and also, there's a guy out here who put an access, on the access channel, yesterday, when we watched the whole video, I think it was your second Police State movie?

00:50:23.000 The takeover?

00:50:24.000 Yeah, the one where you showed the big thing in Seattle there.

00:50:29.000 How that was staged, yeah.

00:50:31.000 Yeah, yeah, and he watched the whole thing.

00:50:32.000 Good, I want to commend who's doing that.

00:50:34.000 And the other thing is, Alex, just this whole thing with Saddam.

00:50:39.000 You know, like you, I agree.

00:50:41.000 The guy is not a saint.

00:50:42.000 He's certainly not an angel by no means.

00:50:44.000 But the fact that he's been being paraded out there, all over the channel, all weekend, and even this morning and tonight.

00:50:52.000 Well, let's be honest.

00:50:53.000 Our government gives medals to all the other people for doing what he's done.

00:50:57.000 He followed his orders, he did what he was told to do, and then they They pulled the rug out from under him in 1990.

00:51:04.000 Stay there.

00:51:04.000 I'll let you finish up, Mark.

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00:57:15.000 Finishing up, Mark, go ahead.

00:57:16.000 Thank you, Brother Alex, I appreciate that.

00:57:19.000 So, like I was saying, going back to the mainstream media and You know how they're just parading him out there like a dog and pony show, talking about Saddam.

00:57:27.000 And, you know, the thought occurred to me, is this a Christmas present to the general public?

00:57:33.000 They even said that.

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00:57:38.000 And it's just ridiculous propaganda.

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00:58:05.000 The Crow now, and then I heard Dr. Dina Dell this weekend, well how would anybody not take a vaccine?

00:58:11.000 Because your own CDC admits a baby by the second round of shots has 160 times the safe level of mercury in their blood, that's why?

00:58:19.000 Amazing, and I just, you know, I know you're waking up the people, Alex, and a lot of people are, and I just pray that the people will wake up And that, you know, especially a lot of Christians.

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00:58:36.000 They think he's the answer to Bill Clinton when he's the continuation of Bill Clinton.

00:58:39.000 Thanks for the call.

00:58:41.000 Listen, folks. 1.00

00:58:42.000 Saddam is a thug. 1.00

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00:58:45.000 Okay?

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01:00:27.000 Is it Saddam Hussein they have in custody?

01:00:33.000 Had he been captured by loyal Republican Guard, controlled by the CIA, who we know were publicly paid off, and had he been held captive for weeks or months?

01:00:41.000 That's what the evidence is pointing towards.

01:00:45.000 Was Saddam flown out of Russia and flown back to Iraq?

01:00:48.000 Did he ever leave?

01:00:50.000 Is that the real Saddam? 0.58

01:00:51.000 Well, we know that the Saddam they showed us wearing the glasses on TV wasn't the real Saddam, that's admitted. 0.84

01:00:58.000 We know the government has staged hundreds of fake arrests, dozens of arrests where it turns out they're FBI and CIA.

01:01:05.000 They will arrest people multiple times and announce they've arrested them again, knowing we don't even have a memory for names, faces, or places.

01:01:14.000 We're taking a lot of calls today, tonight, this morning, depending on what time zone you're listening to us in.

01:01:19.000 We're getting your response to what you think's going on.

01:01:24.000 Another question, where will this Saddam individual be tried? 0.88

01:01:28.000 Will it be by the UN, the EU, by the Iraqi people?

01:01:32.000 They keep saying the Iraqi people.

01:01:33.000 That governing council is run by Mr. Chalibi, who was the Shah's number two torture expert in his secret police. 0.93

01:01:42.000 That's admitted.

01:01:43.000 So I guess Bush lied when he said the gone are the days of the secret police and the torture rooms.

01:01:49.000 Remember, Saddam was a globalist creation, being a CIA assassin as early as 1954, working for them right through 1990. 0.94

01:01:59.000 So, that's part of the discussion as well.

01:02:03.000 We'll get more into the tidbits of deception and manipulation by the Globalist and let you decide. 0.85

01:02:10.000 That's what we're doing here today is getting your take on this.

01:02:13.000 Bill in Wisconsin, then others.

01:02:16.000 Go ahead, Bill.

01:02:16.000 Yeah, Alex, I felt the whole thing was staged.

01:02:22.000 They seem to do these things on Sunday mornings, Monday mornings.

01:02:28.000 When there is a great deal of attention can be geared through the media.

01:02:33.000 Now the thing that interests me, I watched McLaughlin's report later on on Sunday, and that was taped before.

01:02:42.000 And the news was entirely different.

01:02:45.000 They went over Taiwan, and they went over the Al Gore endorsement of Howard Dean.

01:02:53.000 And I think what this did was completely take all of that Off the air so that people will not fix on that at all.

01:03:02.000 Now, I'm not in any way, shape, or form in favor of Gore or in favor of Howard Dean, but Howard Dean recently had made the statement that Bush may have been tipped off about 9-11 by the Saudis, and the Republicans were screaming about it.

01:03:22.000 How could anyone in a position of being the nominee of a major party make a statement like this, so

01:03:31.000 on and so forth.

01:03:33.000 And, you know, so that was blown off the air.

01:03:36.000 By the way, before I forget, you know, in that Tommy Frank cigar aficionado Marshall Law article,

01:03:42.000 he said we're quote, going to catch Saddam real soon, within a month or so, you'll see. 0.73

01:03:47.000 And another officer, and I have the Associated Press article, also said that on November, excuse me, December 3rd.

01:03:54.000 Right.

01:03:56.000 So, I mean, these guys love to brag, don't they?

01:03:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:01.000 But I thought that that was interesting.

01:04:04.000 Then Tim Russert, Okay, they bring out Lieberman, Joseph Lieberman, and he of course is ecstatic over all of this.

01:04:14.000 I'm the candidate that the Democrats have to nominate because I am in favor of getting rid of Saddam. 0.93

01:04:22.000 This is a great day, and so on and so forth.

01:04:25.000 I wouldn't be surprised that, you know, there's a little bit of a spat going on there within the Democrats.

01:04:33.000 Well, we know there is.

01:04:35.000 We know there is.

01:04:36.000 Thanks for the call.

01:04:37.000 Now, we know that Lieberman's hopping mad about his former candidate buddy not endorsing him. 0.98

01:04:44.000 It doesn't matter, they're all a bunch of snakes. 0.94

01:04:47.000 Thanks for the call, Bill.

01:04:49.000 Moses and John and Randy and Davey and everybody else, your calls are up next.

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01:08:01.000 Big Brother. Mainstream media. Government cover-ups.

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01:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

01:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:08:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:25.000 I was down in Houston this weekend showing 9-11 the road to tyranny. 0.81

01:08:30.000 And so I was in Houston Sunday morning when I learned the news of Saddam's supposed capture.

01:08:37.000 And then riding back in the car, I tried to call into, what, three or four different talk shows.

01:08:43.000 And if you wanted to talk about how Saddam worked for the U.S. 0.55

01:08:46.000 government, which is admitted congressional fact, right up until 1990, and still, the only people allowed to do business with him were Dick Cheney and a few other companies.

01:08:57.000 They were the only companies allowed in to do oil work, Saddam's only choice. 0.90

01:09:03.000 They wouldn't let me call into the shows.

01:09:04.000 They would screen me out.

01:09:05.000 I had friends try to call in.

01:09:07.000 I called people via my cell phone and said, call in, try to get in on here.

01:09:10.000 They wouldn't let them on.

01:09:11.000 So I was watching mass censorship by a Houston radio station, a San Antonio radio station, a well-known Austin radio station.

01:09:21.000 And then you'd have to use a fake name and say you love world government basically to get on the air.

01:09:26.000 Well, we don't do that here.

01:09:29.000 And as this develops, I know that there's more to this story than we're being told.

01:09:34.000 Again, the Israelis and the well-known Mossad publication Debka filed, full of former and current Israeli intelligence specialists, indications are Saddam was being held prisoner.

01:09:48.000 Now that's what I thought just by looking at him.

01:09:50.000 He'd obviously been beaten over a long period of time.

01:09:53.000 That pit he was supposedly in was obviously a prison.

01:09:56.000 A lot of people have used stuff like that in the past to hold our troops in Vietnam.

01:10:04.000 And I know our government had paid off the Republican Guard.

01:10:06.000 Probably had him since the end of the conflict and we're just waiting to release him.

01:10:11.000 Others are reporting that he was flown out of the country.

01:10:13.000 There's a lot of evidence to that.

01:10:15.000 We know that he has doubles.

01:10:17.000 We know that in the middle of the war that was a double on television.

01:10:21.000 So we don't know right now what to believe.

01:10:24.000 But I know this.

01:10:25.000 Saddam is nothing compared to China. 0.99

01:10:28.000 And you want to talk about bringing freedom to a region, how dare Bush change a 50 plus year treaty obligation to the tiny country of 30 million people of Taiwan.

01:10:40.000 But there's no discussion of that now.

01:10:41.000 No, no, no.

01:10:43.000 Are the troops breathing depleted uranium?

01:10:45.000 That doesn't matter.

01:10:45.000 So we'll go into more on indications are Saddam was being held prisoner.

01:10:50.000 And a huge prison planet section with AP and BBC and you name it news articles.

01:10:56.000 And we've got the fake terror arrest section.

01:10:59.000 Chemical Ali outlived death reports.

01:11:03.000 Captured Al-Qaeda Man Was FBI Spy?

01:11:06.000 Was Mastermind Really Captured?

01:11:09.000 Mystery Surrounds Convenient Arrest of Al-Qaeda Mastermind Behind September 11th.

01:11:14.000 Pakistan Accused of Staging Bin Laden Aid Arrest.

01:11:18.000 There's dozens of these articles.

01:11:19.000 Go read them for yourself!

01:11:20.000 So, this makes us question anything that the globalists do now.

01:11:25.000 The same military that planted hundreds of fake letters from troops in major newspapers.

01:11:31.000 The same people that staged the private lynch rescue that she called a fable.

01:11:36.000 Chemical Ali outlived death reports.

01:11:39.000 Chemical Ali, a mass killer, and one of the great survivors of Saddam Hussein's Iraq, even outlived reports of his own death.

01:11:46.000 It emerged yesterday when he was captured, was revealed.

01:11:51.000 And where is Chemical Ali?

01:11:52.000 We never saw him again.

01:11:54.000 Captured Al-Qaeda man was FBI spy, the American Al-Qaeda operative, unmasked last week as having planned to bring down the Brooklyn Bridge, was first detained in March, and has been used by the FBI for months as a double agent.

01:12:06.000 It was reported yesterday, and they always release these guys later.

01:12:09.000 Was Mastermind really captured?

01:12:12.000 In the theater of the absurd into which America's hunt for Al-Qaeda so often descends, the quote, arrest of Khalid Shaheed Mohammed is near to the Gilbert and Sullivan end of the repertory by this stage it looked like a case of whoops school of journalism a good story that just might be totally untrue and then it went on remember they caught Mohammed the other disheveled photo of him turned out that was totally staged he'd supposedly been killed a year before then they captured him two more times

01:12:47.000 They don't even use different names on us now.

01:12:50.000 And then whether it's a bombing in Indonesia or a bombing in the Philippines or a bombing in Israel, the CIA flies in, picks up the person after they confessed everything, pays them off and releases them.

01:13:02.000 It's staged!

01:13:05.000 Mystery surrounds convenient arrest of Al Qaeda mastermind behind September 11th.

01:13:08.000 The United States badly needed a big victory.

01:13:11.000 Again, the United States badly needed a big victory.

01:13:14.000 And it's Warren Al Qaeda to counter those critics who said that the violent and fanatically anti-Western network represents a far greater, more immediate threat to Americans than Iraq.

01:13:23.000 Another article of a fake arrest.

01:13:25.000 Pakistan accused of staging bin Laden.

01:13:27.000 Aid arrest.

01:13:29.000 A grainy video reporting to show the arrest of two Al Qaeda leaders.

01:13:33.000 It has now come out.

01:13:34.000 Was false.

01:13:37.000 It goes on, Pakistan's ISI breaks silence on Al-Qaeda captures, shows videos of raid.

01:13:43.000 Pakistan's secretive intelligence agency opened its door to foreign journalists Monday for an unprecedented multimedia briefing on the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

01:13:51.000 Again, turns out that was totally fake.

01:13:54.000 Khalid captured in conflict.

01:13:56.000 ISI shows faceless arrest tape.

01:13:59.000 There's another article here about confirmed Ramzi's bin al-Shabaab has not been captured and information surrounding the much-trembled arrest of al-Qaeda leader Ramzi bin al-Shabaab in Karachi has continued to be marred in controversy as eyewitnesses account has emerged that finally confirms earlier reports that his capture was a public relations ploy and that he is not in the hands of the Americans.

01:14:28.000 Then it goes on that no, he was in the hands and was released because he's CIA.

01:14:33.000 U.S.

01:14:34.000 Colonel unaware of Al-Qaeda arrest.

01:14:36.000 The commander of a brigade of the U.S.

01:14:37.000 Central Command said captured 74 suspected Al-Qaeda sympathizers Monday that he had no knowledge of any such arrest.

01:14:44.000 Turned out that was fake.

01:14:46.000 Folks, it goes on for seven pages.

01:14:51.000 The newest Bin Laden videotape they released earlier this year Uh, here it is.

01:14:55.000 Bin Laden video is compilation of repeats, says expert.

01:15:00.000 Bin Laden tape is old material.

01:15:02.000 Bin Laden's right-hand man, a new videotape, was arrested 18 months ago.

01:15:07.000 That's Fox News.

01:15:09.000 Uh, here's another section.

01:15:11.000 Endless fake terror alerts.

01:15:13.000 Where the White House has been caught ordering fake terror announcements.

01:15:16.000 Folks, are you starting to get an idea here?

01:15:19.000 of what I'm talking about.

01:15:20.000 Let's go back to calls and I'll get into the evidence that Saddam was being held captive and that they were keeping him on ice under Republican Guard control.

01:15:29.000 And that's why our troops had the whole area encircled for the last five months.

01:15:32.000 They were just there keeping the area under control.

01:15:36.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Moses in Texas.

01:15:41.000 Welcome, sir.

01:15:42.000 Whoa, buddy, whoa!

01:15:44.000 You're riling me up!

01:15:45.000 Now hold your horses!

01:15:47.000 Are you trying to say... I heard you in your commercial saying that world leaders involved in occult practices, and now you're saying that President Bush and that these leaders are working evil and doing stuff for evil?

01:16:03.000 Well, I just saw President Bush over there feeding the troops turkey!

01:16:07.000 And he was there on the banks of the Euphrates River, in Old Babylon, and he was preaching the gospel of Jesus right out of the Yale Bible, right there by Skull and Bones there, saying that Jesus says, kill your enemies, and if somebody hits you, fight them back more, and do unto others... Well, actually, General Boykin says that Bush is a disciple, is an actual emissary of God, and that this is a holy war.

01:16:34.000 But it is a holy war of the Skull and Bones God, not the God of the Bible. 0.67

01:16:40.000 Well, yeah, and another thing you got me riled up, you said that Saddam, now we know Saddam is evil, and you said that he had business deals with our government?

01:16:57.000 Excuse me, sir, but he had business deals with Cheney and Rumsfeld And George Sr.

01:17:04.000 and these guys, private business deals, it was all fair and square blood money, and it didn't have nothing to do with the government because they work for the International World Government of the Illuminati guys.

01:17:15.000 I saw that on 60 Minutes when they talked about Skull and Bones and how our beloved president belongs to that, and it's a big Christian group, and they all go in there, and it says, they even said, it's like Harry Potter meets Dracula.

01:17:27.000 Now, Dracula, that's just a nice bedtime story in Transylvania, Oh, and besides that, you messed up, because when you gave your movie, and you showed They Live, you forgot to show Fahrenheit 451, where they say, Stop telling us this stuff!

01:17:42.000 It's hurting me!

01:17:44.000 Alright, thank you for the call.

01:17:46.000 A very interesting call.

01:17:47.000 Where do you think, I want to hear predictions, where are they going to try the Saddam individual? 0.59

01:17:54.000 Where are they going to try him?

01:17:56.000 Is it going to be at the UN?

01:17:57.000 Is it going to be in Iraq?

01:17:59.000 Again, They claim it's an elected government.

01:18:02.000 No, it's not.

01:18:03.000 They were appointed.

01:18:04.000 All 300 plus were appointed by Bremer.

01:18:09.000 Now that's admitted!

01:18:11.000 But the Iraqi people are going to try him.

01:18:13.000 A tribunal of a bunch of former Shah torture technicians. 0.74

01:18:18.000 Again, just Saddam clones. 0.98

01:18:20.000 They're going to have a bunch of new Saddams trying an old Saddam. 1.00

01:18:24.000 What do you see happening?

01:18:25.000 What do you predict?

01:18:26.000 I think they're going to have a big show trial Yeah, I think the whole thing's a big sham.

01:18:40.000 I think he got out either by the... got flown out, or else he got out through that big underground tunnel.

01:18:46.000 Actually, when I looked at the pictures last night, and they only showed... it's a funny thing, they only showed it once.

01:18:50.000 They showed a still of his old picture, when they... you know, of him for real.

01:18:56.000 And if you notice on the old picture, the eyes are much bigger by the nose and then they get smaller as they go out towards the side of the face.

01:19:03.000 Now when you look at this body double there, that they had in jail there, his eyes are real small towards the nose and they get real big as you go out towards the side of the face.

01:19:13.000 Well I know this, I've looked at him and it looks more like Saddam and that admitted fake they had on TV during the bombardment, during the shock and awe, but Again, there's no telling what the truth is. 0.70

01:19:26.000 We've been lied to so much in the past, you know, with Jerry Bruckheimer involved in the productions, literally, that there's no telling.

01:19:34.000 Not only that, his demeanor didn't appear to be a Saddam essay.

01:19:38.000 I mean, the guy, you know, would have been more silent, more blunt.

01:19:42.000 Well, I know that beard was too long for somebody that had been in custody for even five, six months.

01:19:46.000 It's a fraud.

01:19:47.000 It's a fraud.

01:19:49.000 Well, I know this.

01:19:50.000 They could have taken real video of Saddam Because it's so short and edited it. 0.52

01:19:56.000 But then how are they going to do that at the show trial?

01:19:58.000 We'll be back.

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01:24:08.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:24:12.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

01:24:16.000 Alright, I've taken about ten calls.

01:24:17.000 That's not enough.

01:24:20.000 I want to start just rapid firing through calls and I'm going to put in some extra news that we've covered in the past about Saddam being flown out to safety.

01:24:28.000 These were from credible sources.

01:24:30.000 Then more from the Israeli intelligence saying it looks like he's been tortured, beat up, drugged.

01:24:34.000 That's what I thought when I saw him and it does look like a real Saddam to me. 0.99

01:24:38.000 At least better than that last bad body double which they admit was fake on television.

01:24:43.000 So remember, we've got body doubles flying around, we've got paid off Republican Guard by the CIA, that's admitted.

01:24:49.000 We've got all the lives that we've been told in the past.

01:24:52.000 I don't know what to believe right now.

01:24:55.000 But more will certainly come out as it develops.

01:24:57.000 Your calls have been very interesting.

01:24:58.000 Have a question or a comment.

01:25:00.000 If you disagree with me, you're welcome to call in on some issue 1-800-259-9231.

01:25:04.000 And when you hear somebody hang up, when I let somebody go, that's your chance to get in.

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01:25:14.000 Randy in Pennsylvania, go ahead.

01:25:18.000 Welcome.

01:25:18.000 Hey Alex.

01:25:19.000 A couple points here.

01:25:20.000 I remember the media saying that Saddam was a germ freak.

01:25:24.000 How could somebody like that be in that kind of condition?

01:25:28.000 I'm still sane.

01:25:29.000 Another thing is the American money with the brand new $100 bills.

01:25:32.000 Wouldn't that leave a trail in Iraq?

01:25:35.000 People like me having Canadian money on the run.

01:25:38.000 Well, actually, dollars are the main reserve currency there.

01:25:42.000 Now it's shifting over to Euros and even the old Saddam money, the old Iraq money, but it seems that the Ba'ath Party was running off dollars.

01:25:51.000 But remember, The Ba'ath Party is who's been put back into power. 0.96

01:25:56.000 They've been very quiet about that, but it is admitted the majority of those in power are high-level Ba'athists or former Shaw-era secret police.

01:26:07.000 Thanks for the call.

01:26:07.000 Great points, Randy.

01:26:10.000 Davey in Texas.

01:26:12.000 Go ahead, Davey.

01:26:12.000 I've got three things here real quick, Alex.

01:26:15.000 I'm in concurrence with your suspiciousness on this.

01:26:19.000 But one, Friday you had Congressman Ken Credo on.

01:26:23.000 Yes.

01:26:23.000 Y'all were talking about the invasion that's been going on.

01:26:26.000 The Mexican troops kidnapping American citizens, yes.

01:26:28.000 Right, exactly.

01:26:29.000 And he was supposed to be on Fox this Sunday morning and of course turned over to look and lo and behold, no talk about the invasion, but I do hear Red Dawn.

01:26:40.000 Is it that a nice name, Red Dawn, and we have a Red Dawn with General Eberhardt, the head of NORTHCOM, saying we're going to martial law, Frank saying it, and foreign troops smashing here publicly, and they name the operation Red Dawn.

01:26:54.000 Good job mentioning that.

01:26:55.000 Big red flag, but Alex, just about an hour ago, Bush had a press conference.

01:27:01.000 One of the reporters asked him about 9-1-1 and that uh... one of the democratic presidential

01:27:07.000 candidates allegedly has said that he had something to do or knew about nine one

01:27:13.000 one and uh... of course

01:27:15.000 a bush uh...

01:27:17.000 pause a little bit uh... listen to the guy talking in his ear and uh...

01:27:21.000 he he said uh... well that that's just absurd and the question was

01:27:26.000 did that amount the political hate speech and let me stop you

01:27:32.000 You're telling me that a reporter got up and somebody they're going to re-air this.

01:27:36.000 Please send me the press conference on C-SPAN, folks.

01:27:38.000 I'm begging you, somebody do it for me.

01:27:40.000 You're telling me, Davey, that Bush had another press conference.

01:27:44.000 We'll try to get it and air it.

01:27:46.000 You're telling me Bush had a press conference and that after he had the press conference, Or that during the press conference, somebody says, what about Dean saying you may have known about 9-11?

01:27:58.000 He pauses, talks to a handler, probably Rove or McClellan, and then he says, that's just absurd.

01:28:04.000 Now, number one, was the question, is that hate speech?

01:28:09.000 Correct.

01:28:10.000 That was the question.

01:28:11.000 I saw an article last week of, was it hate speech for Dean to do that?

01:28:16.000 Now they're using the leftist terms.

01:28:18.000 Thought crime.

01:28:19.000 What did Bush say about it being hate speech?

01:28:22.000 He said after a long pause that that was absurd, and the second part of the question was that his dad called and talked to him.

01:28:30.000 But what it pointed to most provocatively was the fact that this event, The Bush press conference itself was staged, just like everything else that they've done has been staged.

01:28:43.000 Well that thing in Baghdad...

01:28:45.000 Uh, where about no more than a dozen Iraqi journalists celebrate, well, yeah, they arrest you and shut down your radio, TV, or newspaper, if you even criticize anything that the occupation force is doing.

01:28:57.000 So, of course, they're going to have the hand, you know, hand-picked people cheering. 0.71

01:29:01.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

01:29:03.000 It's a staged event across the board, and I really respect your gut instincts, Alex.

01:29:09.000 They're right on the target so much of the time.

01:29:12.000 It's a real joy to watch.

01:29:14.000 Uh, finally, have you heard of the EMAT Group?

01:29:20.000 Uh, no.

01:29:21.000 In World Mag, it's www.worldmag.com.

01:29:26.000 Go down to the archives.

01:29:28.000 18 August, 01.

01:29:30.000 Flash traffic from Washington by Joel C. Rosenberg tells about the EMAT Group.

01:29:37.000 And what is the EMAC group?

01:29:39.000 Well, it's a group of billionaires who want to further the interests in the Middle East of a particular group of people that are in fact terrorists.

01:29:49.000 We'll be back.

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01:31:05.000 Mainstream press tells us we're having a stock market recovery.

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01:31:10.000 I heard the same thing.

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01:32:57.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.

01:33:08.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:33:15.000 We're gonna try to find an online version of the press conference that Bush gave about an hour ago

01:33:21.000 where he...

01:33:23.000 Let's ask the question about what do you think of Dean saying you could be covering up 9-11 or had prior knowledge?

01:33:29.000 Because that's solid gold.

01:33:30.000 We're going to try to air Bush's statement and then part of the press conference.

01:33:35.000 I guess George just download, record the whole thing.

01:33:38.000 I'm talking to the guy doing it.

01:33:39.000 I appreciate him doing it.

01:33:41.000 And then we'll play Bush's comments, then find the clip with the questioner, and we'll play that part of the press conference sometime next hour, if we can, because that is so important.

01:33:55.000 Of course, we've got all the satellite feeds, too.

01:33:57.000 I guarantee it's going to be re-aired on some of those feeds.

01:33:59.000 You can find it there.

01:34:01.000 It's important to have that.

01:34:02.000 I rarely play their propaganda, but if something like that comes out, I will.

01:34:07.000 I want to, again, continue with your chance to respond and get involved on air.

01:34:13.000 I do want you to know, though, that now we're all focused on Saddam Hussein and what this means, or where he'll be tried, or is it Saddam Hussein, or was he held captive by the Republican Guard or Bush?

01:34:26.000 We know the Republican Guard was paid off.

01:34:28.000 The Israelis are saying this now, which is unusual to have them saying something that doesn't go along with Bush.

01:34:34.000 But that's where my gut is.

01:34:37.000 on this and from the evidence we have.

01:34:40.000 While we're doing this, we're not talking about the dollar plunging further, we're not talking about the factory shutting down, we're not talking about police squad cars with will kick your bleeper now decaled on them in Bakersfield, California, or SWAT team raid drills on schools where they shoot kids in the face with paintballs, or have police dogs jump on them.

01:35:03.000 We're not talking about all the different New World Order stuff that's happening, the gun legislation in Congress, the open borders legislation, the Mexican troops kidnapping U.S.

01:35:13.000 citizens, killing federal officers.

01:35:16.000 We're not talking about that. 0.96

01:35:18.000 We're always too busy talking about Michael Jackson or whatever the newest big distraction is.

01:35:23.000 Now this Saddam thing is not a distraction if we look at it and learn from it. 0.99

01:35:28.000 I'm going to take some more calls and I'm going to get into the quotes of Tommy Franks and another officer saying, oh yeah, the last three weeks, we're about to capture Saddam.

01:35:37.000 You watch.

01:35:38.000 You watch.

01:35:39.000 Yeah, we're about to get him.

01:35:41.000 Yeah, I bet.

01:35:42.000 You said that with such confidence.

01:35:46.000 I wonder who is up next here out of all these callers.

01:35:50.000 I guess it would be Mike in New York, and then Joel, John, Julie, and Ralph and others.

01:35:56.000 Go ahead, you're on the air, Mike.

01:36:01.000 Or I guess you're not on the air, Mike.

01:36:02.000 You hung up.

01:36:04.000 Let's talk to Joel in Illinois.

01:36:06.000 Joel, you're on the air.

01:36:07.000 Welcome.

01:36:08.000 Hi, Alex.

01:36:08.000 Hello.

01:36:09.000 I don't know if you remember me.

01:36:10.000 I sent you the article from the New American about Bush saying the The war in Iraq was to boost the U.N.

01:36:18.000 Yes, I did get that.

01:36:19.000 And that's what I said again years ago.

01:36:21.000 This war will be to make the U.N. 0.73

01:36:23.000 look like a good cop while we play the part of bad cop.

01:36:26.000 Go ahead.

01:36:27.000 Which is why I predict that he has to have Saddam Hussein tried before the International Court of Justice in order to further legitimize the United Nations. 0.91

01:36:37.000 And then of course it'll come out that Saddam has been a CIA minion all along, which is admitted in congressional reports.

01:36:44.000 Unless they try to cover that up some kind of way.

01:36:48.000 I mean, look, they could have shot video of Saddam months ago, killed him, and then they'll try a body double and then he'll retire with a face job to the Cayman Islands.

01:36:56.000 You know, the same thing happened with McVeigh.

01:36:59.000 Mainstream reporters said his stomach was rising and falling as he was wheeled out.

01:37:06.000 This is a Pentagon that plants hundreds of fake newspaper articles in the papers with fake signatures from troops, the people that fake the Jessica Lynch rescue, the people that lie about weapons dossiers and mobile weapons trucks and mass graves.

01:37:20.000 They lie, they lie, they lie, so I can't believe a word they say, but I don't know what the truth is.

01:37:26.000 What do you think is going on?

01:37:30.000 I think that we have to Like the article said, we have to legitimize the United Nations.

01:37:37.000 In any way we can do that, that's what we're going to do.

01:37:43.000 And you're saying you don't want to legitimize them, you're saying Bush is doing it.

01:37:47.000 Right, right.

01:37:48.000 I care less for the United Nations.

01:37:50.000 Do you think this is really Saddam they have? 0.92

01:37:52.000 I think that it is for one reason.

01:37:58.000 Because they have to capture him.

01:38:01.000 If we let him keep, you know, if the story is that he's still on the run, then it just brings down the morale of the troops.

01:38:14.000 Also, where's Bin Laden?

01:38:17.000 See, I've been told they've got him on ice, they're going to roll him out before the election.

01:38:21.000 Right.

01:38:22.000 We'll see what happens.

01:38:23.000 Thanks for the call.

01:38:24.000 I appreciate that call and you joining us.

01:38:28.000 And by the way, this Bush administration person has told a bunch of Austinites this, so I'm not the only one that's been told this, so no reason to have me get run over by a truck.

01:38:39.000 By the way, another microbiologist, the one studying for a major university, studying the bizarre outbreaks on ships, On cruise ships, a van jumped a curb and smashed him up against the wall, ran over him and drove off.

01:38:57.000 Let me see, that's over 30 microbiologists involved in government programs or studying ways to treat this stuff that have been shot, killed, stabbed.

01:39:05.000 I think four or five of them have been run over by cars.

01:39:08.000 A couple have drowned in an inch of water.

01:39:11.000 Others bash their brains out and throw themselves off bridges or die in airlocks or slit their wrists out in fields with undigested pills in their stomach.

01:39:21.000 So, it's getting real serious.

01:39:23.000 I have the Houston Chronicle here in front of me.

01:39:26.000 Being a microbiologist studying bioweapons that are being released is very unhealthy.

01:39:31.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to John in Tennessee.

01:39:35.000 John, you're on the air.

01:39:36.000 Go ahead.

01:39:37.000 Talking about censored call-in shows, C-SPAN's Washington Journal seems to be a pentagon front.

01:39:45.000 You really have to lower your standards to watch it, but it's the only national TV call-in show.

01:39:50.000 I don't know if anybody really watches it to watch it, or if it's just propaganda people from the government who call in to do their little... No, I've, uh, for ten years I've been calling in.

01:40:00.000 I've probably gotten through ten times, once a year or so.

01:40:02.000 Uh, but, uh, now I've tried to get in, and when you tell them that something articulate, they will hang up on you.

01:40:09.000 Are you seeing a shift?

01:40:11.000 Well, I spent six hours yesterday speed dialing Washington Journal, but only got busy signals.

01:40:17.000 So I don't know, uh, If that's an indication of something or not.

01:40:22.000 They were talking about Hussein.

01:40:24.000 Everybody wanted Mr. Hussein tortured and executed.

01:40:28.000 They worshiped Bush and his Operation Red Dawn.

01:40:32.000 And I just wanted to say, regarding arresting leaders of mass destruction, the next step is to capture and arrest the man and the people behind the 9-1-1 massacre, which is a five-time convicted felon, George Bush Jr.

01:40:45.000 And we can now use the USA Patriot Act to torture him to death at Gitmo like we did to thousands of POWs in Afghanistan.

01:40:53.000 Alright, I don't agree with your statement and thanks for the call.

01:40:56.000 I wish no harm upon George W. Bush or Dick Cheney or anybody else in this administration.

01:41:02.000 They're high-level puppets.

01:41:04.000 Nothing more.

01:41:06.000 And I'm against the fact that they have tortured quite a few people to death.

01:41:10.000 At Guantanamo Bay and they're admittedly not even Al Qaeda or Taliban.

01:41:13.000 They're young men, old men. 0.93

01:41:14.000 They just randomly grabbed folks off the street to create that illusion while they flew 8,000 of the leaders out to safety.

01:41:22.000 And that's the facts.

01:41:23.000 And I understand that the caller was illustrating how it's wrong to do this.

01:41:30.000 And how it's wrong to have a policy like our government now has of assassinating leaders.

01:41:35.000 But you need to be careful how you talk because that could be interpreted differently.

01:41:41.000 No, I wish no harm upon Bill Clinton or George Bush or anybody else.

01:41:45.000 They're just puppets.

01:41:47.000 Let's talk to Julie in New England. 0.64

01:41:50.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

01:41:51.000 Hello, Alex.

01:41:52.000 Welcome.

01:41:53.000 Thank you.

01:41:54.000 I just wanted to say something.

01:41:55.000 My initial reaction when I saw this Saddam thing on TV was I fell on the bed laughing my head off. 0.99

01:42:03.000 I thought this was the funniest thing I'd seen yet.

01:42:05.000 Well, I fell on the bed and got very depressed.

01:42:09.000 I wanted to see what charade they were going to make out of this, right down to pulling the bugs out of his head.

01:42:14.000 I mean, that was really good.

01:42:16.000 I thought, wow, this is Hollywood at its best, you know?

01:42:20.000 And I thought it was kind of funny because I know they're up to something.

01:42:25.000 Well, that's the one image, too.

01:42:27.000 That's the one image, Julie, where they're not overtly humiliating him or belittling him, but it makes him look horrible, disheveled, with somebody in his mouth in the Arab world. 1.00

01:42:36.000 You know, that's a big no-no.

01:42:38.000 He could be going along with this, Alex.

01:42:40.000 It's just part of a charade, I think.

01:42:42.000 Well, Saddam Hussein was a CIA asset publicly from 1954 to 1990.

01:42:49.000 Now, I don't know about after, but I know that his Republican guard, Rumsfeld, bragged a week before the invasion began that he'd already paid off over two-thirds of their military.

01:42:59.000 Okay, and it's admitted that they met him and paid him off, and now the Israelis are saying from the evidence, and I agree, that it looks like that the Republican Guard and folks have been holding him for weeks, if not months, that he'd been tortured and all the rest of it.

01:43:12.000 This is totally staged, and that's why... Totally.

01:43:15.000 That's why Franks and other officers in the last month said, you watch, we're about to capture him.

01:43:23.000 Can I say something else here?

01:43:25.000 I wanted to know if you noticed if he looked a little too chubby to have been living in a hole for the last six months.

01:43:31.000 Well, that actually might make you chubby if you're getting fed okay while you're in custody.

01:43:36.000 Yeah, I thought he should look a lot more emaciated.

01:43:39.000 Well, he looked a little chubby because if you look, those were uneven swellings.

01:43:43.000 Looks like he's been beaten pretty bad.

01:43:45.000 And that's not what I'd say.

01:43:48.000 That's what the intelligence agency's looking at his face saying.

01:43:50.000 Yeah.

01:43:52.000 Okay, I just wanted to give you my opinion.

01:43:54.000 Hey, it's a really good point you made.

01:43:56.000 Anything else?

01:43:57.000 No, not right now Alex.

01:43:58.000 Thank you so much for everything you do.

01:44:00.000 Where do you think they'll try him?

01:44:02.000 At the UN?

01:44:04.000 Um, I don't know.

01:44:04.000 I think we just have to wait and see what's going to go on.

01:44:07.000 It should be good.

01:44:09.000 A UN-sanctioned trial with maybe a nine-member tribunal?

01:44:15.000 A nine-member judge, and I think three of them will be Iraqis, the rest will be from the UN, and they're going to have a big show trial, and who knows what will happen. 0.82

01:44:25.000 Thanks for the call.

01:44:26.000 Thanks.

01:44:27.000 You bet. 1.00

01:44:27.000 And I don't want to, you know, these idiots I hear on other talk stations, the ones that are allowed to get on air, not those of us that are exposing this, but the idiots, I shouldn't say that, the people that are blind, I'd like to hear from you at 1-800-259-9231. 1.00

01:44:43.000 Because you're saying, oh, the new Hitler's been captured in a bunker. 1.00

01:44:47.000 The new rat, you know, ace in the hole. 0.97

01:44:49.000 Oh, we got him. 0.99

01:44:51.000 Oh, man, he's so evil.

01:44:53.000 We're so good.

01:44:54.000 Number one, he's our creation, globalist creation, using our government.

01:44:58.000 Number two, this is very important, our government just changed 50 plus years of treaty and told Taiwan, you're on your own.

01:45:06.000 And I commend Limbaugh.

01:45:08.000 I heard him Friday actually admit this and say it was wrong.

01:45:11.000 He had to.

01:45:13.000 It's evil, folks.

01:45:15.000 I did hear Hannity saying it was okay.

01:45:18.000 Think about that. 0.95

01:45:20.000 China is worse than Hitler, folks. 0.99

01:45:22.000 It killed more people than Stalin. 0.98

01:45:24.000 Okay, so I don't want to hear it.

01:45:26.000 And the people they've hired to run Iraq are the former Shah torture people. 0.99

01:45:29.000 Torture experts. 0.93

01:45:31.000 It's disgusting.

01:45:34.000 Our government told him to attack Iran, told him to go ahead and go into Kuwait. 1.00

01:45:38.000 So when they talk about how he's evil for doing it, that means they're evil.

01:45:41.000 Don't you understand that?

01:45:44.000 Man, have a thinking process out there.

01:45:46.000 I know you're listening.

01:45:47.000 I wish you had the courage to call in.

01:45:49.000 1-800-259-9231.

01:45:50.000 See, we can defend our ideas here.

01:45:57.000 We can defend them here.

01:45:58.000 We don't have to screen the calls out.

01:46:00.000 No, we don't have to do that.

01:46:01.000 We're just here on all these AM and FM stations.

01:46:04.000 Rhode Island, L.A., Kansas City, Austin, Albuquerque, Denver, Colorado.

01:46:08.000 All over the place.

01:46:10.000 All over the place.

01:46:11.000 And you won't call in.

01:46:12.000 I know you can't get in, so let's try to get through more of these calls quickly.

01:46:17.000 Let's talk to Ralph in Rhode Island.

01:46:19.000 Ralph, you're on the air.

01:46:20.000 Go ahead.

01:46:21.000 Alex, you do a fine job.

01:46:22.000 Very, very good.

01:46:24.000 Ms.

01:46:24.000 Bill Cooper and The rest of you guys that do a good job.

01:46:28.000 Taiwan.

01:46:29.000 Very disgusted about that.

01:46:31.000 Very, very disgusted about that. 0.77

01:46:32.000 That's because you're a communist.

01:46:34.000 Oh, well, excuse me.

01:46:35.000 You're pro-gun, anti-communist.

01:46:36.000 You're a commie.

01:46:37.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:46:38.000 Gotta get in the Neocon thought process.

01:46:40.000 Should I start wearing red more often?

01:46:42.000 You will be a conservative then.

01:46:44.000 Um, listen.

01:46:44.000 Okay.

01:46:45.000 Red Dawn was a movie in the 80s.

01:46:47.000 Have you ever seen that?

01:46:49.000 Uh, yes.

01:46:50.000 I've seen Red Dawn.

01:46:51.000 Uh, I would tell people to check out Red Dawn and wag the dog.

01:46:55.000 Well, why would they call this Red Dawn when Red Dawn was the name of the communist operation in the movie?

01:47:01.000 I have no idea.

01:47:03.000 It's baffling me since I heard that.

01:47:06.000 And I'll tell you something, Dan Rather had a look on his face there on Thursday when he was talking about the new Murrow building.

01:47:13.000 I sent you an email about this.

01:47:15.000 And he looked like he was from outer space when he mentioned Timothy McVeigh.

01:47:21.000 He did, I'm telling you!

01:47:22.000 No, I saw Rather on Sunday and this was about, I don't know, 11.30, I'm about to leave my hotel, and he goes, no, folks, let me tell you, a lot of you were hearing, don't think it's really Saddam, but one of the body doubles, he certainly has those, but this is Saddam, this is him, this is him, so don't be saying that, and he looked like a deer in the headlights.

01:47:43.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:47:45.000 By the way, after 1991, there was a PBS special Uh, that only aired on a few of their stations that got censored, where Dan Rather got caught four days before the invasion doing a mock invasion newscast.

01:47:58.000 I remember that.

01:47:59.000 That was in total precision.

01:48:01.000 I remember that.

01:48:03.000 And it's come out that there was never a 48-hour ultimatum.

01:48:06.000 They were going in regardless.

01:48:07.000 It's all staged, folks.

01:48:10.000 This guy, like you said, I couldn't have said it any better, and I've talked to other people that listen to your program every day.

01:48:17.000 And they said he looked like he was on drugs or something.

01:48:21.000 He looked bewildered on Sunday morning.

01:48:23.000 He looked like... And to tell you the truth, Brokejaw looked like the same way.

01:48:28.000 He was bewildered.

01:48:30.000 Wait a minute, I thought this guy was down in Honolulu in some motel.

01:48:34.000 And they were taking care of him.

01:48:35.000 Thanks for the call.

01:48:37.000 Ralph, Frank in West Virginia.

01:48:38.000 Frank, you're on the air.

01:48:39.000 Your chance to talk.

01:48:40.000 Go ahead.

01:48:41.000 Hey, Alex.

01:48:43.000 Thank you for taking my call.

01:48:45.000 I just wanted to call Well, about today's holiday, I'm not sure if you mentioned this earlier because the reception is a little poor, but it's Bill of Rights Day.

01:48:55.000 Oh, yes!

01:48:55.000 You know, Aaron Zellman and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, he started this a handful of years back and seems to be catching on in a lot of Yeah, they have Bill of Rights Day and Bill of Rights meetings, and local Lawsonites each month go to the Capitol and have Bill of Rights rallies, and according to Bush, they're Al-Qaeda rallies.

01:49:23.000 Yes, yes.

01:49:25.000 Certainly terrorists are holding those.

01:49:27.000 There'll be no more secret police or torture rooms.

01:49:31.000 Yeah, right, Bush.

01:49:34.000 But I think it's a fine way at least to get people educated about it, give them an opportunity to bring it to their forefront.

01:49:40.000 A lot of people don't know what their freedoms are, and I think that's one good way of getting out the message.

01:49:47.000 Well listen, I want to ask you a question, Frank.

01:49:50.000 How can these people call into shows?

01:49:53.000 And after I finally got on the air, you know, by saying I love Bush, and then said no, our government put him in, told him to invade, gave him the weapons, the host goes, well that's true, but he's bad now, and the callers were calling in going, how dare him question on this day of celebration!

01:50:08.000 I mean, how can we know that Saddam followed the globalist orders?

01:50:13.000 It's all staged!

01:50:14.000 How did they sit there and celebrate this when they've handed over Taiwan to China?

01:50:20.000 It is, exactly, and it's all staged.

01:50:22.000 In fact, this morning I woke up to my clock radio and 7-something said, oh, we caught Saddam, and the soldier who caught him, anyhow, said compliments of George Bush or something along those lines, and I thought, Wow, sounds like Wag the Dog right there. 0.72

01:50:43.000 Something they made up.

01:50:45.000 It's amazing.

01:50:45.000 Thanks for the call.

01:50:47.000 Ace in the hole.

01:50:48.000 He's the Ace of Spades.

01:50:49.000 He's in the hole.

01:50:50.000 I mean, come on folks.

01:50:53.000 Come on.

01:50:56.000 We'll be back with more calls and a bunch of other news items.

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01:54:11.000 I want to go to Roger and Walt and Irving and David and Gene and everybody else.

01:54:19.000 I want to get back into indications are Saddam was being held prisoner from the Debka file, which is basically a Mossad intelligence agency news reporting outfit.

01:54:28.000 And I agree with what they're saying.

01:54:30.000 Also, we've posted a big Prison Planet section of where they've captured other people they quietly released later because they're CIA agents, almost the entire top echelon of Al Qaeda.

01:54:40.000 This is admitted, folks.

01:54:41.000 It's never turned into a big news story.

01:54:44.000 Also, they're interrogating Saddam, they claim, and he's saying some things.

01:54:48.000 I want to go over that.

01:54:49.000 Also, Iran continues to raise the secret deal claim.

01:54:53.000 This is out of Gulf News.

01:54:55.000 I'm digging around here for the... Well, here's Newsmax.

01:54:58.000 Saddam key an early CIA plot.

01:55:01.000 This is from April 11th this year.

01:55:03.000 A big article admitting his CIA control.

01:55:06.000 Another one here by a Western reporter interviewing top officers saying they did fly Saddam out.

01:55:13.000 LaHood, Hussein's capture imminent, U.S.

01:55:16.000 Representative Ray LaHood held his thumb and forefinger slightly apart and said, we're this close to capturing Saddam Hussein.

01:55:24.000 And this is out of the Associated Press, also out of the Pantagraph newspaper, and this was on December 2nd.

01:55:33.000 Once that's accomplished, Iraq resistance will fall apart, said the five-term Republican Congressman from Peoria, who serves on the House Intelligence Committee.

01:55:43.000 And also, in the December issue, and I've got it right here in the entire interview, is on InfoWars.com, General Tommy Franks told Cigar Aficionado, we are only days away from capturing Saddam.

01:55:57.000 Again, yeah, you got him in a hole, sitting there, out there guarding him in the middle of nowhere, you bet.

01:56:03.000 And that's not Alex Jones saying that, that's the Israelis, folks. 0.51

01:56:07.000 The guy has been beaten half to death, you can tell that.

01:56:10.000 Given him a few weeks for the bruises to go down, but not the puffiness.

01:56:13.000 He looked like he was drugged.

01:56:15.000 It's amazing, but again, your calls are coming up here in just a few minutes.

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02:00:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:16.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen.

02:00:19.000 We love freedom.

02:00:21.000 We believe that Bush cutting Taiwan loose, changing 50-plus years of treaties, is treachery.

02:00:27.000 We believe that Communist China is a hundred times worse than Saddam Hussein and has killed thousands of times more than Saddam Hussein did. 0.93

02:00:35.000 We know that Saddam Hussein was a CIA assassin from 1954, put into power in 1976, head of the Ba'ath Party security apparatus by the late sixties.

02:00:44.000 We know he was told to attack Iran and told to go ahead and invade Kuwait. 0.70

02:00:49.000 We know, ladies and gentlemen, that the media is now going how evil he was for attacking Iran when He was told to attack Iran by our government, and when talk show hosts are confronted with this, neocons are confronted, they will come right out and say, cutting Taiwan loose is good, Bush signing the assault weapons ban is good, Saddam's the ultimate evil, shut up, you're a liberal if you don't like it!

02:01:14.000 Campaign finance is good, open borders is good, no, it's not good!

02:01:18.000 And we're sick of it!

02:01:22.000 Now, we've got congressmen, generals, officers saying we're about to catch Saddam in the last three weeks. 0.82

02:01:28.000 They were all bragging.

02:01:30.000 A congressman two weeks ago, less than two weeks ago, twelve days ago, came out and said we are an inch from catching him.

02:01:37.000 And, uh, yeah, because they had him down in that hole just waiting to release him.

02:01:41.000 Question is, is it the real Saddam?

02:01:43.000 We know there's body doubles involved.

02:01:45.000 We know even Dan Rather had to respond to this.

02:01:47.000 We're taking a lot of calls.

02:01:49.000 I want to take 25 calls before this hour ends, and I want to hit at least 10 news stories in detail we haven't covered.

02:01:57.000 So we're going to move quickly to your calls right now.

02:02:00.000 Let's talk to Roger in Pennsylvania.

02:02:02.000 Go ahead.

02:02:03.000 Yes, thanks Alex.

02:02:04.000 To me, more important, if it somehow does turn out to be the real Saddam, more important than whatever contrived show trial they cook up is going to be how they're going to insulate him from any independent researchers like they did for Germany's Albert Spears.

02:02:20.000 Yeah, because he's totally in business with the Bushes, and even through 2001, only Dick Cheney's oil company was allowed to do business there.

02:02:28.000 Saddam could only buy from Halliburton.

02:02:30.000 Again, you talk about a staged event.

02:02:32.000 God bless.

02:02:33.000 Thanks for the call.

02:02:34.000 Good points.

02:02:35.000 Walton, Kansas City.

02:02:36.000 Welcome, sir.

02:02:37.000 Well, God bless you, Alex.

02:02:38.000 Great show.

02:02:39.000 Listen every day.

02:02:40.000 Tell you what, I wanted to make a point about this thing, the capture of Saddam, and I think it is somewhat a diversion.

02:02:49.000 However, it's good news, like I called in to the radio talk shows here locally, trying to get information out.

02:03:01.000 And I told them, I said, well, this is good news for everybody that loves freedom.

02:03:06.000 Our burgers are still wide open.

02:03:08.000 Boy, the first show I called Sunday, They just played me off, like, you know, well, you mean

02:03:15.000 free people, you know, shouldn't be able to come and go?

02:03:17.000 I said, no, no, no.

02:03:18.000 I said, we as free people can jump in our suburbans and go across the border and throw

02:03:23.000 our money away and drive right back across and go back home.

02:03:26.000 I said, what my concern is, is we could put, you know, these guys could, they could put

02:03:32.000 them in these Mexican style cowboy hats, cowboy boots and jeans and a t-shirt and they're

02:03:38.000 carrying, everybody's carrying something under their arm and if you're looking at them at

02:03:42.000 500 yards through a pair of binoculars, they're going to look just like another Mexican. 1.00

02:03:47.000 Well, that's the point.

02:03:48.000 I mean, how can the head of Homeland Security say we need to legalize all the illegals, but then we're going to have the government putting a microscope down our throats, into our lives, and it is good for the troops, closer to the end of this war, to have Saddam if it is Saddam, but they're just going to put an even worse dictatorship in! 0.81

02:04:05.000 Our government put Saddam in to begin with, and no one wants to discuss that! 0.99

02:04:09.000 Yeah, and you know, the point I was trying to bring up, Absolutely.

02:04:13.000 Thank you.

02:04:13.000 Thank you, Walt.

02:04:14.000 Gotta let you go.

02:04:15.000 Thank you, Irving, David, Gene and many others.

02:04:16.000 our borders still being wide open and I mentioned that they're putting fences around Afghanistan

02:04:16.000 You're up next.

02:04:22.000 and barbed wire around cities in Iraq and all, but yet our borders are still wide open.

02:04:31.000 We can't fence them all off.

02:04:32.000 Thank you Walt, gotta let you go.

02:04:34.000 Thank you Irving, David, Gene and many others.

02:04:36.000 You're up next.

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02:08:01.000 All right, folks.

02:08:05.000 We have the press conference that Bush gave.

02:08:09.000 Yeah.

02:08:10.000 At about 11.15 a couple hours ago.

02:08:13.000 And I have no idea if they're going to edit out the comments that a reporter brought up.

02:08:21.000 And we have confirmed those comments were made.

02:08:23.000 That presidential candidate Howard Dean says you could have had prior knowledge of 9-11.

02:08:28.000 And that Bush then paused and had to have his handlers tell him what to do.

02:08:31.000 That was off script. 0.94

02:08:33.000 And that he said that it was ridiculous, but that the reporter said it was hate speech. 0.61

02:08:36.000 We found Bush's speech in press conference.

02:08:40.000 We don't know if that part of the press conference is there.

02:08:42.000 We're listening to it, and that's probably coming up before the end of the show.

02:08:49.000 CNN is legendary, and others are legendary for editing these things up, but we did find a news story concerning it, so it was said.

02:08:57.000 It already has made news.

02:08:59.000 We got loaded phones.

02:09:00.000 I said I'm going to take a ton of calls.

02:09:01.000 I'm keeping the callers down to about a minute and a half apiece, so we can get everybody in.

02:09:06.000 Let's bang through five of them, then I'll hit another news story on Sedona, and I'll go back to five more calls.

02:09:12.000 Irving in Colorado.

02:09:13.000 Irving, you're on the air.

02:09:14.000 How are you doing, Alex?

02:09:14.000 Go ahead.

02:09:15.000 Thanks for this opportunity.

02:09:18.000 You're off the air here in Denver now, but I'm on the phone listening to you.

02:09:22.000 Oh, you're listening on the stations that carry the first two hours.

02:09:25.000 Right.

02:09:26.000 That ace in the hole thing, I used that already on a morning talk show here, but I would like for you to connect the dot.

02:09:33.000 If you can find out who came up with that whole Decker card analogy, you will know probably when they had him.

02:09:39.000 They claim that a lieutenant at the Pentagon thought it up.

02:09:44.000 Yeah.

02:09:45.000 But they lied about everything else.

02:09:46.000 We don't know if that's true.

02:09:48.000 He probably did.

02:09:49.000 And by the way, sir, we're not just on the four stations that carry the first two hours.

02:09:56.000 All three hours are carried by 1360.

02:09:59.000 1360 on AM?

02:10:00.000 Yes.

02:10:01.000 So we have more affiliates for you.

02:10:01.000 Oh, okay.

02:10:04.000 Oh, okay.

02:10:04.000 I was not listening to your 1060 here in Colorado.

02:10:07.000 Yeah, that's another great affiliate, but you can also listen on 1360 to all three hours.

02:10:11.000 Okay, I'll try to have that.

02:10:13.000 And that station, 1360 covers almost the whole state, goes into three other states.

02:10:18.000 And the reason I think Ace in the Hole was played, I had heard Friday that Bush darn near called Cheney a racketeer.

02:10:27.000 Uh, with this, uh, Halliburton, uh, uh, 61 million for gas.

02:10:32.000 You got to have an ace in the hole, little secret that nobody knows.

02:10:36.000 Well, let me tell you this.

02:10:38.000 Bush better watch out because I remember when Bobby Kennedy accused somebody of, uh, racketeering.

02:10:43.000 And that's all I have to say on this.

02:10:45.000 Let me, let me stop you because I've been out of pocket this weekend showing a film in Houston.

02:10:50.000 I know last week it broke real big that there was bid rigging.

02:10:53.000 Well, there were no bids allowed.

02:10:54.000 But even in the bills they were giving, which is normal procedure for defense contractors, that Halliburton on the oil and sales and the rest of it, overcharged by hundreds of millions.

02:11:05.000 Are you saying Bush was getting ready to cut Cheney loose last week?

02:11:09.000 It sure sounded like it.

02:11:10.000 What did he say?

02:11:11.000 It was on a broadcast here in Denver.

02:11:13.000 I haven't heard it since.

02:11:16.000 You heard Bush.

02:11:17.000 I heard Bush out of his mouth say that Halliburton, Cheney's company, is bordering on racketeering.

02:11:26.000 So, Bush was so worried about this story that he was beginning to try to even burn his buddies.

02:11:32.000 Thanks for the call.

02:11:33.000 I'll have to confirm that.

02:11:34.000 Folks, did you hear that?

02:11:34.000 Did you see that?

02:11:35.000 Did somebody email me that?

02:11:37.000 I have no doubt the callers, 95% of the time, are telling the truth.

02:11:40.000 I believe you, but I cannot confirm it.

02:11:43.000 I need to find out, Irving.

02:11:45.000 Thank you for the call.

02:11:46.000 Let's talk to David in Illinois.

02:11:48.000 David, you're on the air.

02:11:49.000 Yeah, I'm a recent listener to the show, and some of these things are so hard to believe, but if we're sticking with the Saddam story, if they captured him and it was just a setup, and they said that there was no radio equipment on him or around there, shouldn't they have planted that so as to say he is behind the resistance?

02:11:49.000 Go ahead.

02:12:11.000 Okay, this is a complex question, David.

02:12:15.000 Have you heard the background?

02:12:17.000 Now, let me just ask you, do you not know that Saddam was an admitted CIA asset until at least 1990?

02:12:23.000 I do believe that.

02:12:25.000 Well, that's admitted.

02:12:25.000 That's Congress.

02:12:26.000 That's Alphonse Tamado.

02:12:28.000 I mean, this is admitted.

02:12:29.000 We got Rumsfeld kissy-kissing in 1984 with him, literally sitting on his lap on a couch.

02:12:34.000 So he's a CIA agent operative that They decided to use us as a stooge to go into the Middle East?

02:12:40.000 Or is he like a rebellious agent?

02:12:42.000 Uh, exact... No, let's break it down.

02:12:45.000 Things went sour in 1989.

02:12:47.000 Do you remember BCCI?

02:12:51.000 I don't know.

02:12:52.000 I'm not familiar with that.

02:12:53.000 Clark Clifford, the engineer of the National Security Act, all these Bush people, all these top Democrats, members of Congress, involved in a giant group of banks running chemical, biological, drug money, money laundering, one of the biggest banks in the world.

02:13:08.000 It went down with major implications for Baker and Bush and all of them.

02:13:13.000 And the thing went bankrupt because Saddam refused to pay back over $30 billion to Bush.

02:13:22.000 That was 1989?

02:13:23.000 Okay.

02:13:23.000 Yes.

02:13:24.000 But Bush and them still acted like they were friends, and April Gillespie, the U.S.

02:13:27.000 Ambassador, went, and this is on video, I've got a really bad copy of this off the news, I wish somebody would ever see a better copy, send it to me folks.

02:13:34.000 But this is admitted, just type in, April Gillespie told Saddam to go ahead and invade Kuwait.

02:13:38.000 There'll be hundreds of AP articles and you name it about it.

02:13:42.000 This is six days before he rolled tanks into Kuwait.

02:13:45.000 Saddam was saying, look, I'm bankrupt money-wise for buying weapons from you and the Russians.

02:13:50.000 This is in the debate from the Iran-Iraq War.

02:13:52.000 I can't pay you the $30 billion back to BCCI.

02:13:56.000 He said, let me go into Kuwait.

02:13:58.000 That's where the major oil fields are at.

02:14:00.000 They're stealing my oil with horizontal drilling.

02:14:04.000 Uh, into our sweet crude.

02:14:05.000 He said, I'm going to go in and she smiles and says, we don't get involved in inter-Arab affairs.

02:14:10.000 We have a defense treaty with Iraq.

02:14:12.000 You are an ally.

02:14:14.000 We will not get involved.

02:14:15.000 And you think, and you think that, uh, let me, I'm telling you the history here.

02:14:19.000 Six days later, a giant battle group, and I understand he's attacked the Kurds under our orders, he's attacked Iran, a hundred and something thousand Iraqis died each year for eight years. 0.61

02:14:30.000 I mean, he did all this, he was trained by the CIA in 54, he killed Ba'athist leaders, he was put into power in the late 70s, but he worked for them all along. 0.93

02:14:40.000 He rolled in and suddenly was no longer Saddam Hussein, he was He was Saddam Hussein, which means basically pervert. 0.77

02:14:49.000 They changed his name in the media, didn't give him a way out, and did that.

02:14:53.000 I'm not defending him. 0.94

02:14:54.000 He's horrible. 0.96

02:14:55.000 But he's a low-level criminal compared to the rest of these people. 0.96

02:14:59.000 Okay, Iraq was the only country where you could have a Christian church on the street corner. 0.99

02:15:04.000 In Saudi Arabia, they'll knock your teeth out, grab a gold cross off you, blow your head off. 0.92

02:15:10.000 Right, I understand that. 1.00

02:15:11.000 Okay, yeah, a bunch of garbage. 0.98

02:15:14.000 Saddam bought, you know, church equipment, pianos. 0.99

02:15:18.000 Tariq Aziz, his number two guy, was a Christian.

02:15:21.000 Saddam, compared to everybody else in the Middle East, was the best guy there.

02:15:26.000 Okay, and he fought communists, he fought the Iranians, who are pretty bad folks, and look what he gets, okay? 1.00

02:15:33.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:15:34.000 Compared to China and North Korea and Iran and Syria, he is nothing! 0.99

02:15:40.000 Nothing!

02:15:41.000 Now, to answer your question, About what's happening now, is I'm saying this, we know there's Saddam body doubles, at least ten of them, they admit that guy with the glasses on was a fake, remember that?

02:15:52.000 Yeah, I mean that was on the news, and even when he was on the news they were saying it was fake.

02:15:56.000 And they admitted that the Fat Bin Laden tape was fake.

02:16:00.000 And now they admit the army planted hundreds of fake letters from troops in newspapers.

02:16:04.000 They admit the mobile weapons trucks were for pumping up balloons, and they knew that day one, but for months so we found mobile weapons trucks.

02:16:10.000 They've lied, lied, lied, lied, lied, Now they find Saddam in a hole in the ground, like a prisoner.

02:16:18.000 We don't know if the gun stuff's true, and I'm saying the Israeli intelligence people at Debka believe he had been captured by Republican guards, somebody for the ransom, and had been held for weeks or months.

02:16:28.000 And I'm saying from all the indicators, that looks accurate to me.

02:16:32.000 I don't know.

02:16:33.000 He was held captive by the United States military then?

02:16:37.000 Well, you notice they all converged on the Tikrit area and sat around there.

02:16:42.000 And took casualties there, but Saddam wasn't commanding anything from that spider hole, as they correctly call it. 0.86

02:16:48.000 That's what they call them in Vietnam, according to what I've read.

02:16:50.000 And it looks like his own... I'm sure you watched the news before the Gulf War, too.

02:16:57.000 Yeah.

02:16:58.000 Do you remember Rumsfeld giving multiple press conferences saying, don't worry, we've paid off the Republican Guard, we've paid off two major army groups in gold, they're going to give up, it's going to be easy, they don't like Saddam.

02:17:09.000 Remember that?

02:17:10.000 Well, I don't remember that, but I'm sure you've got it documented.

02:17:12.000 Yeah, I do.

02:17:13.000 And then after the war, he said, I never said that, they all thought, oh, we're so valiant.

02:17:13.000 I've got it on tape.

02:17:19.000 My point is, is that I believe from the evidence that if they didn't fly him out, which had come out earlier, that they've been holding him the whole time.

02:17:28.000 Buddy, that's a five, six month beard for somebody that has a fast growing beard.

02:17:32.000 That they held him the whole time as a hostage to opportunely bring him out at the right point.

02:17:32.000 Okay?

02:17:39.000 I don't know though.

02:17:40.000 I know we have a Pentagon and a media that's a bunch of liars and has lied about things just as big.

02:17:46.000 I know they've been caught lying.

02:17:48.000 I know now that there's weird stuff surrounding this.

02:17:50.000 I'm saying, what is probable?

02:17:53.000 You know Alex, I've only listened to a few episodes of your show, but I don't know if you can cover this question in its entirety, but if the Bushes are, you know, Satan-worshiping globalists, Just the implications of that, just to coordinate that, is the U.N. 0.72

02:18:07.000 and the United States conflicts that, you know, just to show is the... That's total... yeah, we'll look at the... The Cold War, I mean, was the Cold War, was there reality or we got competing globalists in there?

02:18:17.000 Oh man, you know, that's a ten hour question.

02:18:19.000 Yeah, I know, I know.

02:18:21.000 But I've covered that.

02:18:22.000 Let me break it down.

02:18:24.000 Lenin clearly was a globalist, that's admitted.

02:18:27.000 Stalin got control and broke away for a time.

02:18:31.000 By Khrushchev, they were back under our control.

02:18:34.000 By our control, I mean the globalists that run America.

02:18:36.000 The U.N.

02:18:37.000 is publicly controlled by the big banks that publicly own America.

02:18:41.000 They're playing the part of good cop not going into Iraq.

02:18:44.000 We go in, do the dirty work, take the blame.

02:18:46.000 The E.U.

02:18:47.000 is then shown as the savior, along with the U.N.

02:18:49.000 for the third world.

02:18:52.000 Now that, we have white papers on by the globalists.

02:18:55.000 See, remember for years they denied global government?

02:18:58.000 Now they say, will it be a UN world government or an American world government?

02:19:02.000 And we bypass discussion of not wanting world government.

02:19:05.000 To, okay, what type of world government will it be, David?

02:19:11.000 Yeah, I mean, this is international bankers, this is just for a show then.

02:19:15.000 Well yeah, well look at Bush's actions.

02:19:16.000 You know, he signed on to UNESCO at the UN.

02:19:19.000 He increased UN funding across the board.

02:19:21.000 He expanded the Department of Education and Department of Transportation.

02:19:25.000 He signed on to the UN treaties, except for a couple of them.

02:19:28.000 And then I wonder how Israel fits into this.

02:19:30.000 I mean, I gotta...

02:19:31.000 Israel is just a Middle Eastern base of all this. 0.99

02:19:35.000 I wouldn't say Israel's at the top of it. 0.93

02:19:37.000 Thanks for the call.

02:19:38.000 Now I spent more time with David because he was kind of skeptical.

02:19:42.000 I will if you disagree or are skeptical.

02:19:44.000 We're going to hammer through Gene and Alan and Dee and others when we get back.

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02:24:03.000 We've been lied to so many times when concerning Iraq that I don't know what to believe.

02:24:09.000 Now if you don't know what we've been lied to about, should I refresh your memory?

02:24:13.000 One of the biggest examples I keep giving is two months ago, hundreds of fake letters from troops with false signatures that they never read or never signed showing up in hundreds of newspapers.

02:24:25.000 The Pentagon is manipulating our news, okay?

02:24:28.000 Do you understand this, folks?

02:24:30.000 They lied to us about the weapons of mass destruction.

02:24:33.000 Don't worry, I'm sure they're going to pull those out right before the election.

02:24:37.000 I've been told they got Bin Laden on ice for rolling him out before the election. 0.90

02:24:42.000 Okay?

02:24:44.000 Let's go ahead and go to Gene in Colorado, and then Alan, Dee, and Curtis, and others.

02:24:51.000 You're on the air, Gene.

02:24:53.000 Oh, yes.

02:24:54.000 It's Gene in Kansas, Colorado.

02:24:56.000 We're right next door to Colorado, though.

02:24:57.000 That's okay.

02:24:59.000 Okay, meeting the question we want to ask all you callers.

02:25:01.000 I haven't heard anybody say anything on this yet.

02:25:05.000 When they captured Hussein, they were supposed to capture I think over $7,000 or something like that in American made money.

02:25:15.000 $700,000.

02:25:16.000 Yeah, $700,000.

02:25:18.000 What kind of business did he have there in the United States where he was making that kind of money from us?

02:25:23.000 Well, Saddam Hussein dealt in hundreds of billions of dollars a year.

02:25:28.000 The biggest oil exporter in the world until the Gulf War was Iraq.

02:25:34.000 And by taking that offline, predominantly, that helped boost world oil prices, which made BP and Amoco and Dutch Rochelle and Exxon Mobil a lot more money.

02:25:43.000 And so by them not shipping out a lot of oil now, that actually keeps prices higher and makes them money.

02:25:49.000 It's not just about shipping the oil, it's about controlling the oil and controlling the refineries here in the West.

02:25:57.000 But Saddam Hussein, they found tens of millions of dollars and euros and gold buried in each big palace.

02:26:06.000 So $700,000 compared to world leaders is like having a nickel in your pocket.

02:26:10.000 Oh, I see.

02:26:12.000 Okay, now, how could I get you to call me sometime?

02:26:16.000 I've got another one.

02:26:18.000 It ain't related with who's saying, but it's... Okay, I'll tell you what, sir.

02:26:22.000 I'm going to let you go, Gene, in Kansas.

02:26:25.000 I'm live on the air right now.

02:26:27.000 Anybody that wants to try to talk to me or my office can call us at 512-291-5750.

02:26:31.000 Allen in Ohio.

02:26:31.000 Allen, you're on the air.

02:26:32.000 Go ahead.

02:26:33.000 5750. Allen in Ohio. Allen, you're on the air. Go ahead.

02:26:37.000 Hello. Alex. I don't know if this is a disagreement or not, but I have a little bit of

02:26:44.000 different take on the the Saddam thing.

02:26:49.000 George Bush is being squeezed in relation to the dollar-euro scenario, and I think he's looking for a way to end this.

02:26:58.000 The Russians want us out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and he can't stand for oil to be priced in euros, which is what they're threatening him with.

02:27:10.000 and especially in election year.

02:27:12.000 You know, everybody wants to say that we went into Iraq

02:27:17.000 because Saddam Hussein threatened to buy oil in euros. Okay, the Russians are already starting it, 0.78

02:27:22.000 the Chinese are starting it, the Japanese have even placed some of their 0.53

02:27:25.000 purchases of T-bills now into euros.

02:27:29.000 And that's a red herring.

02:27:30.000 We have four, five, six-year-old PNAC documents written by the president's cabinet that wasn't in office at the time, but already formed, where they said we want the oil, we want an operation to attack Syria and Iran, we want it for weapons sales.

02:27:44.000 That's why we're going into Iraq. 0.95

02:27:46.000 We need a terrorist attack.

02:27:48.000 To get the people to accept it.

02:27:50.000 Once Saddam knew he was going to get invaded, once the troops started massing, he said he was going to dump dollars and go to Euros like everybody else is doing. 0.62

02:28:00.000 Bush doesn't care if the dollar drops.

02:28:02.000 Bush works for Europe.

02:28:03.000 Bush has his Treasury Secretary, Snow, out bad-mouthing the dollar, saying it's good for it to drop all over the world to the point where the Europeans are panicking, the low-level folks, not the bosses that own us, saying this is going to destroy America and destroy a trading partner.

02:28:19.000 They're talking about trying to freeze the euro, but the Rothschilds and others have said, no, we're not going to freeze the euro.

02:28:25.000 Yes, go ahead.

02:28:26.000 thirty-something percent higher than the dollar uh... we're gonna let it continue to rise

02:28:31.000 and so bush in the am what the dollar to go down i told people six seven years ago and that euro came out

02:28:36.000 the dollar was gonna drop

02:28:37.000 as the globalist on white paper said it thanks for the call great points alan

02:28:41.000 good questions d in west virginia here on the air

02:28:46.000 yes i had okay alec

02:28:48.000 there's got a problem all ago about uh...

02:28:52.000 uh... but she can talk to you with her military 0.96

02:28:57.000 because he cares Well, none of the troops got the turkey.

02:29:00.000 was high ranking, got the turkey.

02:29:03.000 Ones outside, if you'd watch Democracy Now!, they was feeding the ones outside C-Rations. 0.99

02:29:09.000 Or MREs, or whatever they're called.

02:29:12.000 Well, number one, none of the troops got the turkey.

02:29:15.000 They flew in an expert on prepared meals to make it look like they were going to feed

02:29:21.000 them that.

02:29:22.000 That was like a set piece on a television show.

02:29:25.000 No one was allowed to eat that turkey.

02:29:28.000 Hillary brought a turkey to Afghanistan, didn't let him have it. 0.99

02:29:32.000 And by the way, Neocon said it was bad when Hillary did it, which it was, but it's good when Bush does it.

02:29:37.000 It's bad when Clinton's against Taiwan, but it's good when Bush is against it.

02:29:41.000 Stay there.

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02:32:53.000 Alright folks, if you disagree with something I've said about the whole Saddam situation, if you've noticed a piece

02:33:09.000 of media propaganda that needs to be exposed, if you want to comment on anything we've been discussing here, we've

02:33:15.000 even got a line open right now for about ten seconds.

02:33:18.000 1-800-259-9231 that's 1-800-259-9231

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02:33:30.000 total propaganda presentation with the Saddam capture I'm no fan of Saddam.

02:33:36.000 But to compare him to Hitler is a joke.

02:33:39.000 When our government is wallowing at the feet of dictators and oligarchies and despotisms that make Saddam look like a choir boy.

02:33:48.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:33:50.000 Your chance to respond and get involved on air.

02:33:55.000 Let's go back to the calls.

02:33:56.000 Let's talk to Curtis in Louisiana.

02:33:58.000 Welcome.

02:33:58.000 You're on the air.

02:33:59.000 Hey Alex, I got three quick points for you.

02:34:03.000 The first one is that piece that she was talking about, about the invasion of Kuwait.

02:34:07.000 There's a little piece on the video called The One Iraqi People.

02:34:11.000 It's on informationclearinghouse.info.

02:34:15.000 The second point is the caller that called about the press conference this morning.

02:34:19.000 Bush was asked about the 9-11 thing and about what he thought about it and was it about hate speech?

02:34:27.000 He never answered the question.

02:34:29.000 He did pause for a few seconds and say it was absurd.

02:34:31.000 They also asked him about... And I'm probably a Fox reporter.

02:34:34.000 We now have the file and I guess we're going to try to... We're almost out of time.

02:34:39.000 It's a press conference.

02:34:40.000 We're probably going to air it tomorrow or maybe one of the other shows will air that.

02:34:45.000 But just amazing.

02:34:48.000 Oh, is it hate speech to say you had prior knowledge?

02:34:51.000 See where we're going?

02:34:52.000 Yeah, and also they also asked him Was it personal with him and Saddam because Saddam tried to murder his father?

02:34:59.000 And what did he think about it?

02:35:00.000 I can't remember what he said, but he seemed like he kind of got mad and I know he ended up saying good riddance to Saddam and you know, just stuff like that.

02:35:09.000 And I also wonder how is it possible that when they had the celebration when he was supposedly caught, where people could fire these automatic weapons, you know, in the air but then, you know, One minute it's okay to do it when you're celebrating, and then the next minute you get arrested for having it.

02:35:25.000 Well, you get arrested for having it, or you get shot.

02:35:27.000 They've been killing a bunch of people at weddings if they shoot their guns in the air.

02:35:31.000 Thanks for the call, Curtis.

02:35:32.000 Good to hear from you.

02:35:33.000 Kevin and Mass, you're on the air.

02:35:35.000 Go ahead, Kevin.

02:35:36.000 Hi, Alex.

02:35:37.000 The closest I can come to providing a call that disagrees is to say that, you know, I still, when I talk to my wife and some others, They'll say, you know, they don't want to believe this.

02:35:46.000 They won't say that I'm crazy anymore, because they know that, and they just are uncomfortable talking about it.

02:35:50.000 But today, you know, during this coverage of the alleged capture, I picked up my son's GI Joe, and I was kind of mimicking the thing, like, oh, here, we got him, you know?

02:36:01.000 And my wife, not only my wife was cracking up, but even my five-year-old son can see through this stuff.

02:36:05.000 If they keep up with this poor, you know, job on their propaganda, We're going to continue to grow.

02:36:14.000 This is great, I think, because they provide such a poor show that it makes it easy for our job to get the word out.

02:36:20.000 People are catching on.

02:36:22.000 They blew up Oklahoma City and Waco to marginalize folks who question the government, i.e. 0.89

02:36:26.000 make them like Timothy McVie, or they're crazy right-wingers, or those people who store arms are crazies. 0.91

02:36:33.000 This is what happens to them. 0.92

02:36:33.000 It's also a threat to those people. 0.92

02:36:36.000 Well, you notice it's also a big distraction with this Saddam thing. 0.94

02:36:39.000 We're not talking about Bush saying, we're going to cut Taiwan loose and change our treaty.

02:36:44.000 That doesn't seem to matter.

02:36:45.000 Or Ridge saying we're going to have open borders and legalize all illegals.

02:36:48.000 Or Bush is going to sign the assault weapons ban.

02:36:51.000 We're not discussing that.

02:36:52.000 Or Arnold's groping anymore.

02:36:55.000 No, now it's all Saddam, Saddam, Saddam, Saddam. 0.88

02:36:59.000 It's a hollow victory.

02:37:00.000 I don't think people are buying it.

02:37:04.000 Conan O'Brien used to do that when he had Bill Clinton, and he'd have his lips through there, and he'd say, oh, you know, he'd mock Clinton, and he'd say, I don't think they're still buying it, Mr. Clinton.

02:37:12.000 He'd say, oh, they're still buying it.

02:37:13.000 Well, I think that's where George is these days.

02:37:16.000 Thanks for the call.

02:37:16.000 I hear you.

02:37:17.000 There are a lot of idiots that buy it, but they put them on the radio and censor out those that disagree. 1.00

02:37:22.000 And I experienced that yesterday trying to call into talk shows, driving back to Austin from Houston. 1.00

02:37:26.000 But not our show.

02:37:27.000 We don't censor your calls, folks.

02:37:29.000 No, you can call right in.

02:37:31.000 Let's talk to...

02:37:34.000 Brian, where are you calling us from?

02:37:39.000 Hello?

02:37:40.000 Okay, it's Bruce in California.

02:37:41.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

02:37:42.000 Yeah.

02:37:44.000 I don't know if you noticed on the forum yet, on the Prison Planet forum, but there's a post on there about Saddam being a fake.

02:37:50.000 Pretty good points in there.

02:37:51.000 I don't know if you noticed back in August 2nd, 2003, CENTCOM had released pictures of what they thought Saddam would look like.

02:38:00.000 And they got about five pictures on there.

02:38:01.000 It looks like he's got, you know, the gray in the mustache, gray in the hair, and then a few with pictures of him with a beard.

02:38:09.000 The beard is very, very short.

02:38:10.000 So they're basically proposing that we believe that in four months, he grew this big, huge Santa Claus beard.

02:38:18.000 Well, that's the point that I've made, and I actually did some research this morning.

02:38:22.000 People have the fastest growing hair.

02:38:25.000 It's about a half inch a month.

02:38:26.000 Well, we say even if it was three quarters of an inch a month, it couldn't get to, in some areas, six inches long.

02:38:33.000 Right.

02:38:34.000 And as a matter of fact, I looked up a beard fact.

02:38:34.000 Exactly.

02:38:36.000 I saw a beard fact that said five inches a year.

02:38:39.000 It grows about five inches a year.

02:38:41.000 Another piece of information, I don't know if you caught this, but one was from Reuters, the other was from AP.

02:38:47.000 Uh, Saddam captured in Tikrit disguised and dusty.

02:38:51.000 I'll cut to the chase.

02:38:52.000 Soldiers tore off a false beard and took samples from the ousted dictator for DNA identity tests after digging down into a cellar.

02:39:01.000 And then you look at, that was from Reuters, if you look at Associated Press, it says, uh, let me see, oh, the, uh, said Saddam had a salt and peppered beard I don't know what happened, but I know it stinks to high heaven.

02:39:14.000 Thanks for the call.

02:39:15.000 I know we got a bunch of callers and I've lost track of who to go to next.

02:39:17.000 Who's up first?

02:39:19.000 Who in Colorado?

02:39:19.000 Gary in Colorado, you're on the air.

02:39:20.000 Hi there.

02:39:21.000 Good to talk to you, Gary.

02:39:22.000 totally different account. I don't know what happened but I know it stinks to high heaven.

02:39:26.000 Thanks for the call. I know we got a bunch of callers and I've lost track of who to go

02:39:29.000 to next. Who's up first? Who in Colorado? Gary in Colorado, you're on the air. Hi there.

02:39:36.000 Good to talk to you Gary. You too. I just had a quick comment about something that

02:39:42.000 stood out for me when I was watching coverage yesterday is the demonstrations in the streets

02:39:48.000 of Baghdad.

02:39:50.000 Close-up shots of Chalibi folks. 1.00

02:39:53.000 I saw some of the same people I saw at the falling statue, and they've got the ten reporters jumping up with glee.

02:39:59.000 Yeah, you're not allowed to be a reporter unless you agree with a globalist.

02:40:02.000 That's already been admitted, so of course they're going to have some lackeys there getting all excited.

02:40:08.000 Another interesting thing was they all had the same red banners and they all had the same exact same pictures that they were holding up.

02:40:15.000 Well yeah, it's the communists.

02:40:17.000 Remember last week they had a quote, protest, demonstration against the terrorists?

02:40:22.000 And it was all communists.

02:40:23.000 The communists are thanking us.

02:40:27.000 And again, I have no love for Saddam. 1.00

02:40:30.000 He's a piece of filth. 1.00

02:40:31.000 But he's our piece of filth. 1.00

02:40:32.000 He did what he was told to do. 0.99

02:40:34.000 He's nothing compared to China. 1.00

02:40:35.000 And Bush is talking about, we've gotten the new Hitler.

02:40:40.000 Everybody's getting drunk having celebrations last night. 0.99

02:40:43.000 I mean, it's ridiculous! 0.96

02:40:45.000 Absolutely. 0.97

02:40:46.000 That was my comment.

02:40:47.000 Thank you.

02:40:48.000 Thank you for the call.

02:40:50.000 Who's up next?

02:40:53.000 Roy in Ohio.

02:40:54.000 Go ahead.

02:40:55.000 Uh, the thing that got me was they, right away, they got the DNA sample.

02:41:00.000 I don't know how long it takes to take a DNA sample, but surely it's not five minutes.

02:41:05.000 Well, yeah, Dan Rather said that morning, yesterday morning.

02:41:07.000 He said, well, sure, it's him, DNA sample.

02:41:09.000 Yeah, that's what got me.

02:41:11.000 Well, I'd give a hundred of your tapes away, so that's all I have to say.

02:41:14.000 Thank you, over and out.

02:41:15.000 Hey, thank you for the call.

02:41:16.000 He's given a hundred of my videos out.

02:41:18.000 Get the videos, get the films, make copies, expose the lies.

02:41:22.000 Tim in Ohio, you're on the air.

02:41:24.000 Alex, how you doing?

02:41:25.000 Good.

02:41:26.000 We are so grateful for having a guy like you on the radio to tell these people they should listen to you and get With the program as to what's going on.

02:41:36.000 I was saying, you know, I hate to bring back Jessica Lynch up again after this.

02:41:39.000 But she said it's a fable.

02:41:41.000 Exactly.

02:41:42.000 All the little heroes said it.

02:41:43.000 Must be a secret Al Qaeda. 0.99

02:41:45.000 The day that it happened, I was telling everybody, this is a complete fabrication of the truth.

02:41:52.000 And no one wanted to believe me.

02:41:54.000 And then the day she comes out and says, oh, this wasn't true.

02:41:57.000 She said it was a fable.

02:41:59.000 And the Hispanic gentleman that actually killed all the Iraqis They told his family to shut up, and four of the special forces people that quote rescued her spoke up.

02:42:09.000 Now it's five, and they all got assassinated. 0.74

02:42:13.000 Killed.

02:42:14.000 Isn't that amazing, when you run in those circles.

02:42:18.000 I mean, we could go on the list as long, isn't it?

02:42:21.000 Wellstone. 0.97

02:42:22.000 The woman that sued Bush for raping her. 0.99

02:42:24.000 Carnicorn, yeah. 1.00

02:42:25.000 The woman that sued Bush for raping her. 0.97

02:42:27.000 I didn't know if she was telling the truth.

02:42:29.000 I ignored the story.

02:42:30.000 I mentioned it, but I said, I don't know if that's true.

02:42:33.000 And then, boom, she gets shot in the back of the head. 0.89

02:42:35.000 Suicide. 0.97

02:42:36.000 It's amazing how they can do that, huh?

02:42:38.000 Well, there's another microbiologist in Houston.

02:42:40.000 It's in the Houston Chronicle on Infowars.com.

02:42:43.000 A truck jumped the street.

02:42:45.000 A microbiologist, a chemist, ran over him.

02:42:49.000 Here's another thing about that, about people dying on the street like that.

02:42:52.000 We'll go back to Dr. Kelly over in Britain.

02:42:55.000 Another microbiologist had a portent down, slitting his wrist with undigested pills in his belly.

02:42:59.000 Now, if we have all of these TV cameras in London, or supposedly like we do, how come we didn't get a glimpse of any of him walking down the street?

02:43:09.000 Well, when the police finally showed up, they saw five men in black uniforms talk to them and then leave the scene, and then there's been no discussion of them.

02:43:17.000 Thanks for the call.

02:43:19.000 Good to hear from you, yes.

02:43:21.000 Who's up next now?

02:43:25.000 Okay, Jeremy in Indiana, go ahead.

02:43:28.000 Yes, I'd like, I was thinking about, I'd like to see, you say you've got videos of things on tape from news articles and such that you've seen, and not all of us have been fortunate enough to see that, and I was wondering if you could do for your next documentary, or one of them coming up, Iraq front to back with the whole thing.

02:43:46.000 I thought about doing that.

02:43:47.000 That's why I taped hundreds of hours of video.

02:43:50.000 That's why I've got thousands of news articles.

02:43:52.000 And yes, I have a small operation, but I have certainly thought about doing that.

02:43:57.000 All right.

02:43:58.000 Thank you very much.

02:43:59.000 Thank you for the call.

02:44:00.000 Miles in Texas.

02:44:01.000 Miles, you're on the air.

02:44:02.000 Go ahead.

02:44:03.000 Hello, Alex.

02:44:04.000 Yes.

02:44:05.000 Yes.

02:44:06.000 I'd just like to know how you would comment on this.

02:44:09.000 I'm wondering what this really means on the timeline.

02:44:14.000 What it could mean for the globalists?

02:44:16.000 Is this like a signal that we're even closer to a declaration of a police state here?

02:44:24.000 Are we closer to the CIA doing terrorist acts here?

02:44:29.000 What's your comment on this?

02:44:32.000 Yes, we're much closer.

02:44:33.000 It is a signal.

02:44:35.000 General Eberhardt telling the LA Times that martial law is good and troops on the streets are good and the Pentagon spying on us is good is a major indicator.

02:44:43.000 The same week in Cigar Aficionado to have Tommy Frank saying how this is the next step.

02:44:50.000 They have Asia Times saying it with the Pentagon documents.

02:44:53.000 They have the government saying we're about to be hit by bio-attacks.

02:44:56.000 We've got roundup camps ready.

02:44:58.000 That was the New York Times last Monday with RFID tags we'll have to wear.

02:45:03.000 Martial law is good, keeps you safe.

02:45:05.000 Yes, this is a massive acceleration towards the election.

02:45:09.000 And it's very, very serious.

02:45:11.000 And everybody kept saying George Bush is going to lose.

02:45:14.000 He's got his die-bold machines in.

02:45:16.000 It doesn't matter if he loses, he'll just get a Democrat who's the same person.

02:45:19.000 But they've already carried out terror attacks.

02:45:22.000 They're not going to stop unless enough of us expose that they are the terrorists.

02:45:29.000 Does that answer your question?

02:45:33.000 Alright, thank you for the call.

02:45:35.000 Who is up next now, Stephanie?

02:45:36.000 I got out of order.

02:45:39.000 Okay, well, you know what I'm going to do?

02:45:41.000 While you're getting all those calls straight here, I'll try to jam four or five more in, if you can get me their names and where they're calling from.

02:45:48.000 Before I do that...

02:45:50.000 Let me just hit some final top news stories for you.

02:45:54.000 On PrisonPlanet.com we have the articles where they killed Chemical Ali over and over and over again and confirmed his dead body and DNA and then captured him again. 0.59

02:46:03.000 Where they captured the top Al-Qaeda leaders.

02:46:06.000 The American Al-Qaeda operative unmasked last week as having planned to bring down the Brooklyn Bridge.

02:46:11.000 It turned out was an FBI asset and it was a staged event to create fear.

02:46:17.000 They have the capture of Khalid Shaheek Mohammed.

02:46:23.000 Turns out he had been captured two other times and been killed another time.

02:46:27.000 And there's a bunch of articles here of other countries where there's a big bombing in the Philippines, the CIA swoops in, gets the guy, turns out he's a CIA agent, on and on and on and on and on.

02:46:38.000 This is out of Debka file, which is basically Mossad.

02:46:41.000 Indications are Saddam was being held prisoner.

02:46:44.000 A number of questions are raised by the incredibly bedraggled, tired, and crushed condition of the once savage, dapper, and pampered ruler who was discovered in a hole in the ground on Saturday, December 13th.

02:46:57.000 The length and state of his hair indicated he had not seen a barber or even had a shampoo for several weeks.

02:47:04.000 Several weeks?

02:47:04.000 Again, yeah, it would take probably a year to grow a beard that long, conservatively.

02:47:09.000 The wild state of his beard indicated he had not shaved for the same period.

02:47:12.000 Uh, he didn't grow that in two weeks, Debka.

02:47:15.000 The hole dug in the floor of the cellar in the farm compound near Tikrit was primitive indeed.

02:47:19.000 Six foot across, eight foot across, and minimal sanitary arrangements a far cry from his opulent palaces.

02:47:26.000 Saddam looked beaten and hungry. 0.74

02:47:29.000 Detained with him were two unidentified men.

02:47:32.000 And they throw in the icky 47s.

02:47:33.000 We don't even know if that's true.

02:47:35.000 The hole had only one opening.

02:47:36.000 It was not only camouflaged with mud and bricks, it was also blocked.

02:47:40.000 He could not have climbed out without someone on the inside removing the covering.

02:47:45.000 And most important, the $750,000 and $100 notes was found with him, but no communications equipment of any kind, whether cell phone or even a carrier pigeon, or contacting the outside world.

02:47:57.000 According to Debka analysts, these seven anomalies point to one conclusion.

02:48:02.000 Saddam Hussein was not in hiding. 0.61

02:48:04.000 He was a prisoner.

02:48:06.000 After his last audio tape message was delivered and aired over Al Arabiya TV on Sunday, November 16th, on the occasion of Ramadan, Saddam was seized, possibly with the convenience of his own men, and held in that hole in Adwar for three weeks or more, which would have accounted for his appearance and condition.

02:48:24.000 Meanwhile, his captors bargained for the $25 million prize to the Americans, who promised for information leading to his capture, alive or dead.

02:48:31.000 The negotiators were mediated by Jahal Tawhini's Kurdish PUK militia.

02:48:38.000 These circumstances would explain the ex-ruler's docileness, described by Lieutenant General Sanchez as resignation in

02:48:45.000 the face of his capture by U.S. forces.

02:48:48.000 He must have regarded them as his rescuers and would have greeted them with relief.

02:48:52.000 From General Sanchez, Envision's answers to questions, 25 million bounty.

02:48:57.000 He evades them, it may be inferred the Americans and the Kurds took advantage of the negotiations with Saddam's

02:49:03.000 abductors to move in close and capture him on their own account for

02:49:06.000 And we have Tommy Frank saying we're about to capture him in the next few weeks,

02:49:06.000 three reasons.

02:49:10.000 and cigar aficionado, we have the congressman.

02:49:15.000 Coming out on December 3rd to the Associated Press and saying that they were about to capture him, quote, we're this close and showed his fingers up, you know, as an inch.

02:49:27.000 This is amazing that this type of stuff is going on.

02:49:31.000 And remember, it was reported by the Iranians, by British press on the ground, that Saddam was flown out of the country.

02:49:38.000 He had been offered an amnesty deal, which he then tried to take a month before they invaded.

02:49:43.000 Then Bush said, no, no amnesty.

02:49:45.000 That's on the record.

02:49:47.000 We know they paid off the Republican Guard before the invasion, so all of these indicators together shows that they probably captured him and stuck him in that hole for months and months and months and months and months and now released him.

02:50:04.000 So, very, very important.

02:50:05.000 An Iranian news agency, close to top conservative military figures, attributed the fall of Baghdad to a secret deal agreement between Saddam Hussein, Russia, and the U.S.

02:50:15.000 According to the Batztob Agency, 13 days after the start of the war, Saddam and Russian intelligence agency pledged to hand over Baghdad with minimal resistance to Allied forces, providing they spare the lives of Saddam and 100 of his closest relatives.

02:50:29.000 Did he come in to get amnesty and get grabbed and stuck in that hole?

02:50:33.000 We don't know.

02:50:34.000 Is that the real Sadam?

02:50:35.000 We know there's doubles.

02:50:36.000 We don't know.

02:50:37.000 It looks like him a lot better than the last guy they had on TV, which they admitted was a double.

02:50:43.000 We'll come back, jam a few final calls in and a few final pieces of news, and then I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:50:48.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2, and this network will continue to cover all this information.

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02:53:54.000 Alright folks, Ray McGovern is a 27 year veteran of the analysis section of the CIA at the highest levels for the

02:54:08.000 National Security Council.

02:54:09.000 He advised George Herbert Walker Bush, Ronald Reagan.

02:54:12.000 We've had him on many times.

02:54:13.000 He'll be joining us tomorrow in the third hour.

02:54:17.000 He's on with us just for a few minutes.

02:54:18.000 He runs an inner-city youth program and had an emergency.

02:54:21.000 Had to go deal with that today and had to cancel.

02:54:24.000 But he's here with us now.

02:54:26.000 And, uh, Mr. McGovern, you exposed that it was really the Iranians, and it's come out in congressional hearings, that nerve gas, that's a lie. 0.61

02:54:33.000 You've gone over all this in three minutes.

02:54:35.000 What do you think about this capture?

02:54:37.000 What do you think it means, and how can they allow him to have a real trial if many of his crimes, or what they call crimes, were committed with BCCI and the Bushes and others?

02:54:46.000 You have the floor.

02:54:47.000 Well, if it's, uh, thanks, Alex.

02:54:50.000 Uh, if it's a real trial, that is, if it's a real open and honest one, It will be incredibly embarrassing for the Bush administration because of the past support that this country has given to Saddam Hussein. 0.56

02:55:04.000 We pretty much put him up in business.

02:55:07.000 We didn't at all object when he used the gas against the Iranians and so forth.

02:55:13.000 So the important thing, Alex, is to make sure that the Any trial would be plausible.

02:55:20.000 That requires an international presence.

02:55:24.000 There are international ways to do this.

02:55:26.000 The U.S.

02:55:27.000 and the people it's put in place in Iraq decide to handle this exclusively without letting real participation from the international sector.

02:55:37.000 It's not going to be credible at all.

02:55:38.000 Well, they can't let Chalibi, the former torture expert for the Shaw, do it. 0.62

02:55:44.000 Bush says this is the end of torture, this is the end of secret police.

02:55:47.000 This looks like it's the beginning.

02:55:48.000 They're putting the Ba'athists back into power. 1.00

02:55:51.000 I mean, I don't think the U.N.

02:55:52.000 courts are that good, but compared to Chalibi or somebody, I mean, you can't appoint a counsel and then say that it's not a puppet for Bush.

02:56:01.000 So what do you see happening?

02:56:02.000 Exactly.

02:56:03.000 I see them between a rock and a hard place, because if they let a real trial go forward, they're going to have a lot of embarrassment.

02:56:11.000 If they don't let it go forward, they'll be all with suspicions.

02:56:14.000 The big question for me, Alex, is where are the weapons of mass destruction?

02:56:18.000 Now if anyone knows where the weapons of mass destruction are, I don't know if Satan does.

02:56:22.000 Well sir, you know a bunch of troops carrying some type of large explosives suddenly got sick and their lungs collapsed and liquefied.

02:56:31.000 It looked like chemical weapons exposure.

02:56:34.000 They've been hauling a lot of stuff around.

02:56:35.000 Couldn't they produce that?

02:56:37.000 Fake that?

02:56:37.000 They faked fake newspaper articles.

02:56:40.000 They've put out fake reports, fake Niger info.

02:56:43.000 I mean, I don't think Bush is beyond producing fake weapons of mass destruction right before the election.

02:56:49.000 Yeah, some people are very surprised that they've not done that already.

02:56:52.000 But they haven't.

02:56:54.000 And, you know, if you take a non-cynical look at this, and you give Bush the benefit of the doubt, which is really hard to do, but you say, Let's assume there were weapons of mass destruction there.

02:57:05.000 Well, where the heck are they?

02:57:08.000 Last time we had a chance to ask somebody who knew Saddam Hussein's sons, we fired ten anti-tank missiles into them.

02:57:15.000 Now we've got Saddam Hussein himself. 0.77

02:57:17.000 now we should be able to find out where i think he'll slip on a banana peel do you know well

02:57:22.000 that's uh...

02:57:23.000 entirely possible but the answer he'll give of course will be

02:57:26.000 there ain't none there haven't been none haven't been any

02:57:30.000 since the mid nineties while people are calling this a big victory and i'm no

02:57:33.000 fantasy domino you're not as well she worked in the white house during you know the big

02:57:37.000 period with him uh...

02:57:39.000 i mean how can they put him in prison but not put people in business with him

02:57:43.000 in prison well it's it's very different very difficult and they'll

02:57:47.000 have to work you know one of the major things here alex is what sort of

02:57:51.000 legality obtained here uh...

02:57:53.000 Are we an occupying power or are we a power that attacked this country and arrested its leader?

02:58:02.000 What sort of juridical right do we have to do anything?

02:58:06.000 Okay, Ray McGovern, we'll talk to you tomorrow.

02:58:08.000 Thanks for coming on the show and God bless.

02:58:10.000 Looking forward to it.

02:58:11.000 You bet.

02:58:12.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight central.

02:58:14.000 Be there back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:58:16.000 We're lining up a bunch of guests for you.

02:58:18.000 Sorry to all the callers, we don't have time to get to you, but we took about 40 calls today, so that was good.

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