Alex Jones Show - 20040106_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother, mainstream media, government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Alright, my friends.

00:00:32.000 Big, big show lined up for you on this 6th of January, 2004, Tuesday edition.

00:00:41.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:42.000 The websites are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, and they've both been updated for you today.

00:00:50.000 We've got three separate guests coming on the show.

00:00:54.000 In the third hour, we have Dr. Kilner, John F. Kilner, And he is the head of the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity talking about the New Jersey move to legalize cloning embryos for industrialized use, how this ties into other countries that are racing to do it as well.

00:01:13.000 We'll be discussing Cloning, coming up in 30 minutes, James Bovard, author of Terrorism and Tyranny, Trampling Freedom, Justice, and Peace, to Rid the World of Evil, and six other books.

00:01:25.000 He's a frequent contributor to the American Spectator, Investors Business Daily, and has also written for the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, Newsweek, and many other publications, and we have his article posted as one of the headlines on InfoWars.com.

00:01:39.000 Quarantining dissent.

00:01:40.000 I read part of this story on air yesterday.

00:01:42.000 How the Secret Service Protects Bush from Free Speech.

00:01:47.000 Destroying the First Amendment.

00:01:48.000 And by the way, he's a conservative exposing that, ladies and gentlemen.

00:01:53.000 So that's coming up as well.

00:01:55.000 And in the middle of the next hour, we've got Paul Joseph Watson from the United Kingdom joining us.

00:02:01.000 He joins us once a week at least to be discussing What's happening with the Princess Diana case?

00:02:08.000 I was driving along early this morning, listening to AP Network News, and they said, could one of the members of the British royal family have killed Diana?

00:02:18.000 She said that it was a royal in a letter planning to kill her in an automobile accident.

00:02:22.000 Now, we talked about this months and months and months ago, and have been talking about how she was murdered since she was killed in the late 1990s and 97, but to hear it on mainstream news was certainly interesting.

00:02:34.000 It's like I walked into a Barnes & Noble This weekend, and saw Barr McClellan's book, and it said there is the subtitle, how JFK was killed by LBJ, or excuse me, how LBJ killed JFK.

00:02:54.000 So more and more of this coming out, and so we'll have Paul Watson on to talk about the murder of Princess Diana, the latest developments there, and a bunch of other Important news.

00:03:09.000 The New York Times has a story, and I've laid out what Neighborhood Watch is going to be doing.

00:03:15.000 But here's the New York Times admitting it.

00:03:18.000 Again, I've read the federal documents, but now to have the New York Times reporting it, they're going to have three people in the country Paid by Homeland Security.

00:03:26.000 Three people paid to watch a bank of cameras via their computer screen for up to eight hours a day.

00:03:34.000 Private citizens.

00:03:35.000 They're going to hire hundreds of thousands of people to monitor all these cameras in your neighborhoods and at your schools and I guess in the schools as well and report back to Homeland Security.

00:03:48.000 And also they'll have volunteers from Neighborhood Watch doing this as well.

00:03:55.000 So you're wondering how they're going to use all those cameras and have somebody on the other end of them.

00:04:01.000 But the story gets even weirder.

00:04:04.000 It says that they're going to put fake images of terrorists onto video camera feeds from around the country to keep all of us on our toes.

00:04:14.000 So people in these little tattletale internet rooms Are going to see terrorists scaling walls and planting bombs just to keep them on their toes.

00:04:27.000 Now again, how many terrorist events have we really had?

00:04:29.000 But see, this heightens the virtual reality effect of, oh, we're all under attack, give your rights up.

00:04:36.000 That's why they have all these anti-terror drills for years before 9-11, getting us ready for the terror attacks, preparing us, creating the instinctive illusion that it's an everyday, commonplace occurrence.

00:04:51.000 There's so much other news, folks.

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00:07:58.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:05.000 on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:07.000 Thanks for watching!

00:08:10.000 This broadcast is all about liberty and freedom.

00:08:14.000 It's about getting your minds outside the box, seeing the big picture.

00:08:18.000 Throughout history, powerful elites have sought to control and dumb down and continually expand the level of slavery that the populations they own are under.

00:08:32.000 We have a parasitic elite known as the New World Order, globalist, internationalist, and they are setting up a system of Neo, that is, New Serfdom, Feudalism, Slavery, Tyranny, Despotism.

00:08:48.000 And whether it's Republican talk show hosts or Democrats, liberals or conservatives, in Washington it's only labels.

00:08:57.000 When it comes to open borders, gun control, more regulation, more loss of liberty, they're all racing ahead to destroy this country.

00:09:06.000 And it makes me angry, and it makes a lot of people angry.

00:09:09.000 And the climate out there right now, from the general public, is that people don't trust this government.

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00:09:27.000 But the problem is, the Peter Jennings, the Dan Rathers, the Bill O'Reilly's, the Rush Limbaugh's of the world keep them in the dark and create this illusion that we're all going along with it, or they distract us with petty issues of little or no significance.

00:09:46.000 Let me race through the news because we've got a guest coming on, James Bovard, who writes for the American Spectator and Investors Business Daily and many other publications about quarantining dissent, how the Secret Service protects Bush from free speech.

00:10:03.000 Very important.

00:10:03.000 Then we've got Paul Watson coming on about the assassination of Diana, the new developments there.

00:10:08.000 Not new for us, but now it's in the mainstream media.

00:10:11.000 And we'll also get into cloning in the third hour with Dr. John F. Kilner, the head of the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity.

00:10:20.000 He's the president of that center, and he's also on the president's bioethics board.

00:10:25.000 Three separate great guests for you and of course Open Phones here on the show.

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00:10:36.000 Homeland Security Neighborhood Watch.

00:10:37.000 nine two three one that's one eight hundred

00:10:41.000 two five nine ninety two thirty one

00:10:45.000 homeland security neighborhood watch

00:10:50.000 and it says the roughly forty seven thousand strategic facilities

00:10:56.000 are vulnerable to terrorist attack.

00:11:00.000 Security is either too expensive or impractical.

00:11:04.000 With U.S.

00:11:05.000 Home Guard, webcams installed around the facilities send images every five seconds to a central processing center.

00:11:11.000 These pictures are then enhanced and sent out to spotters who observe from home computers around the country.

00:11:18.000 If someone looks amiss, a spotter alerts The Processing Center, a sequence of confirmation leads, if necessary, to the involvement of local authorities.

00:11:31.000 This is out of the New York Times, and it says, and again, I've heard Ridge announce this, I've read federal documents where they were planning this, I've seen it on C-SPAN.

00:11:39.000 I hadn't seen it in a big, major paper, though, that they're going to, well, let's say your high school student wants to graduate from school.

00:11:47.000 Well, under Secure Corps, Division of AmeriCorps, and the TIPS program, They're going to have to serve the last two years of high school in picking up trash, in warrant service, helping at checkpoints, doing environmental work, that is brainwashing people into feudalism, and yes, monitoring security cams from their home computer.

00:12:08.000 That's how you get your hours.

00:12:10.000 I've seen it proposed.

00:12:12.000 They've got the new national drafts.

00:12:13.000 They've got, what, eleven different versions in the House and Senate.

00:12:18.000 They've got six different versions in the Senate.

00:12:21.000 Five different versions that I've seen in the house.

00:12:25.000 And in several of those versions, 18 to 49 you'll have to serve, but most of us will have to serve domestically.

00:12:32.000 And it's from literal public works projects, digging ditches, tattling on neighbors, being support groups for police.

00:12:41.000 I mean, this is literally East Germany, folks.

00:12:45.000 And here it is in the New York Times.

00:12:47.000 By Matthew Bernsinski saying that, oh, companies like Priceline and others want to work with the federal government to hire out, for $8 to $10 an hour, thousands and thousands of employees that will monitor the 47,000 strategic facilities.

00:13:07.000 Now, what are strategic?

00:13:08.000 Power plants, chemical plants, police stations, federal buildings, courthouses, schools.

00:13:14.000 And this is where they're putting all the cameras up.

00:13:16.000 And there are already over a million and a half cameras that the government has.

00:13:20.000 In fact, most of you, I've been all over the country, and I know here in Texas that now the smallest towns will have dozens of cameras at all the big four-way stops, even cameras on big poles rotating around with telephoto lenses in neighborhoods.

00:13:37.000 Within 200-300 yards of my house, there are over 50 cameras, and I live in the edge of Austin.

00:13:45.000 I live in southwest Austin, and there are cameras everywhere.

00:13:48.000 I'm up here at John Stattmiller's studio today because they're doing some work on my studio, and just driving up here to Round Rock, I saw dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of cameras.

00:14:01.000 They've got them at four-way stops.

00:14:03.000 They've got them in the neighborhoods.

00:14:04.000 They're all over the place, and these admittedly Admittedly, are going to be watching the American people, and they're going to have these neighborhood watch programs, paid employees, high school juniors and seniors, old ladies, people under the new National Compulsory Service Act, and again, National Compulsory Service folks, involved in this.

00:14:29.000 Think about it.

00:14:30.000 But what gets crazier in this article is, it says that To make sure the spotters are doing their job.

00:14:40.000 They're going to have fake images on the video screens.

00:14:43.000 That's how good this technology's gotten.

00:14:44.000 You talk about fake newscasts and fake events on television, we know they have that technology for decades.

00:14:50.000 Now it's gotten so cheap and inexpensive, they can have images of people scaling walls, planting bombs, sneaking around to make sure the people tasked with watching the computer screens are notifying local police the instant they see something amiss.

00:15:09.000 Let's say would-be saboteur is scaling a fence, this is from the New York Times, in the middle of the night at a reservoir in northern New Jersey.

00:15:16.000 Motion detectors and infrared technology sense the intruder and software at the data processing center instantly enhances the image adding red dots to highlight where the heat or motion was detected.

00:15:26.000 A spotter at home in Albany say received the image and suspecting something is up immediately alerts the data center which then automatically sends up to 20 more photos from cameras around the trespass location to a second group of spotters in the second group confirms the alert supervisor the data center review all the footage and can demand through loudspeakers again this is 1984 folks and they already have the telescreens TV screens hooked up to cameras in England and they shout orders at you okay and they have computers that shout orders at you through loudspeakers placed on each camera

00:16:01.000 Then the intruder identifies himself.

00:16:03.000 If the intruder's answer seems suspect, supervisors, telephone, local law enforcement, the whole process can take less than 30 seconds.

00:16:10.000 Can you think of hundreds of thousands, and I admit it's going to start with tens of thousands, of do-gooders, and little old ladies, and 17-year-old kids, and all the control freaks in your neighborhood, looking at these cameras, and you're walking your dog in the vacant lot, You know, behind the school, and all of a sudden the speaker's going, what are you doing?

00:16:32.000 What are you doing out here?

00:16:33.000 See, it gets us all involved in this program of control freak behavior.

00:16:38.000 But it's worse.

00:16:39.000 It says, dummy shots of intruders are randomly inserted into images to make sure spotters are not asleep at the switch.

00:16:45.000 And the images they see are selected from thousands of different sites around the country, so no one knows for sure where the site that he or she is observing is located.

00:16:55.000 With each frame, the spotters, who will be paid $18 an hour, are asked, do you see a person or vehicle in this image?

00:17:01.000 Yes, no, not sure.

00:17:03.000 So see, I don't want to get too complex here, but I know you're a smart audience.

00:17:06.000 They're moving towards this information technology third, fourth wave system, where there's not going to be any jobs as checkout counters, bank tellers, no real factory jobs.

00:17:18.000 Everything is going to be prison guards or security guards.

00:17:21.000 Or police officers, or tattletale squads of bureaucrats.

00:17:26.000 And they're going to shift the economy over to, there'll be lots of jobs watching computers, watching TV screens fed to the computers, and yelling at people over telescreens.

00:17:38.000 A TV screen hooked to a camera, with a bullhorn, shouting orders at you, with tens of thousands of control freaks all over the country asking what you're doing, calling the police if you do anything.

00:17:48.000 Are you starting to get an idea of the type of country, the type of world, the type of system we're all going to be living in?

00:17:56.000 I hope you're thinking for yourselves out there.

00:17:58.000 I hope you realize how serious this is.

00:18:03.000 And the article has more, and it's on Infowars.com, it's on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:18:11.000 I saw an article out of the Associated Press in New Jersey about a month after 9-11, And it said that the federal government in FEMA had already gotten hundreds of neighborhood watch programs to go under federal control.

00:18:24.000 And the APR, a reporter, went to a meeting and he described old ladies, old men, young people from the neighborhood.

00:18:32.000 And they were saying, you look for women with baby carriages.

00:18:35.000 You look for a priest.

00:18:36.000 You look for people that look normal.

00:18:39.000 You don't look for Muslims. 1.00

00:18:40.000 No, no, no. 0.89

00:18:41.000 And by the way, terrorism isn't just, you know, blowing stuff up.

00:18:45.000 It's illegal guns.

00:18:45.000 It's drug dealing.

00:18:47.000 It's spanking a child. 1.00

00:18:49.000 It's all crime. 0.85

00:18:51.000 See?

00:18:52.000 And all these new laws they're passing.

00:18:54.000 Can you imagine this?

00:18:56.000 And they're setting it up.

00:18:58.000 They're setting it up.

00:19:00.000 They didn't put that camera in your neighborhood.

00:19:03.000 They didn't put it in that rural community you live in for no reason.

00:19:07.000 And all the cameras, I even saw this on C-SPAN one morning, they had the head of the transportation department on and they were showing camera shots around the country from neighborhoods and highways and, oh yeah, we can all look at it here at the federal offices and this is going to be used for law enforcement too.

00:19:23.000 Folks, that was before 9-11.

00:19:26.000 So all those cameras they put in, they're not for traffic, they're not for That was the excuse.

00:19:30.000 They're for face scanning you.

00:19:32.000 They're for ordering you around.

00:19:34.000 They're for watching you.

00:19:35.000 And they're going to put little control freaks, do-gooders, in the seats. 0.99

00:19:41.000 And everything's an act of terrorism.

00:19:44.000 Alright, we get back.

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00:24:19.000 I talk a lot on this show about the cashless society control grid.

00:24:24.000 The entire bottom two-thirds of the Austin American Statesman, the paper here in Austin, Says new security for foreigners visiting U.S.

00:24:36.000 and there's a huge photo of a person thumb scanning and finger scanning.

00:24:41.000 Below that there is a huge photo of dozens of people lined up, thumb scanning and face scanning.

00:24:50.000 And it says security check requires photo fingerprint to enter for foreigners.

00:24:55.000 And all over the country, I've seen the headlines for other major papers.

00:24:58.000 It's, oh, you have to thumbprint and face scan.

00:25:01.000 Oh, it's just for those foreigners. 1.00

00:25:03.000 Further conditioning us.

00:25:04.000 But wait a minute, Texans. 0.71

00:25:07.000 When this goes for people living in 41 other states, 42 states do this.

00:25:11.000 You were doing this years ago.

00:25:12.000 You were thumb scanning and doing a digital photo, a face scan.

00:25:15.000 So see, it isn't just for the foreigners.

00:25:18.000 And now, did you know that they signed a deal late last year Worldwide and hundreds of countries signed on to the UN to start this thumbprinting and face scanning when anyone enters a foreign country.

00:25:30.000 This is a world identification system that goes into a world identity database.

00:25:34.000 So when you get off the plane in England or when you get off the plane in Brazil, they're going to face scan and fingerprint you.

00:25:41.000 My parents went on a cruise two years ago and there was the customs department there Retina scanning them and thumbprinting them and giving them their ID for the trip.

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00:26:11.000 How many people know that?

00:26:13.000 How many people know that hundreds and hundreds of cities have passed laws against smoking in bars and restaurants and now on the streets because it's a U.N.

00:26:20.000 treaty?

00:26:21.000 That's admitted!

00:26:22.000 But you tell the average person that they can't believe it.

00:26:25.000 Yeah, the feds sign a treaty with the U.N.

00:26:29.000 and then they tell the states, local cities, you want your funding, pass this law.

00:26:33.000 That's how it works with the transportation funds.

00:26:35.000 You want your highway funds?

00:26:37.000 Then pay for half the federal cameras we're going to put in.

00:26:40.000 But don't worry, you can use them too and Oh, the citizens can have access to them to look at the traffic, and oh, now the citizens can have access to them to the neighborhoods, and oh, now we're going to draft you and make your citizens spend a few hours a day on Tattletail Watch watching their computer screens, and you better pay attention because we've got computer simulations on the video of terrorists attacking, and if you don't call the police, you're going to get in trouble.

00:27:05.000 I just read the New York Times, folks.

00:27:07.000 That's what they're doing here.

00:27:10.000 But the average person, the psychology here is, it's just for them foreigners. 1.00

00:27:13.000 I remember when they put thumb scanners in in Texas in 1993.

00:27:16.000 Clinton signed the executive order and they put them in by 94.

00:27:21.000 And Lamar Smith, a supposed conservative, oh this is to stop illegals. 0.99

00:27:25.000 Then they gave the illegals a waiver where they didn't even have to show ID to get an ID.

00:27:29.000 And now Bush wants to give them all legal status except their matricula cards and it's a sick joke folks.

00:27:35.000 If I wanted to change my name to Vladimir Verovosky or Putin, I could go down and get three or four social security numbers, get four or five different IDs, get different bank accounts, never pay my bills, scam whoever I wanted.

00:27:48.000 If I wanted to call myself Jorge Gonzales, I could go do it.

00:27:52.000 But because I'm Alex Jones and an American citizen, I don't have any rights. 0.98

00:27:56.000 I'm a pathetic slave.

00:27:59.000 This is about you and your family taxing you with a new national sales tax that's really an international sales tax and you've got to swipe the card even when you pay cash so we all pay our fair share and of course it'll be amortized out over the year and there'll be different charges for how much money you make and so we'll have to swipe our card to make sure it goes into our file and what's the big deal you know everything you do is transparent. 0.95

00:28:25.000 This isn't freedom folks.

00:28:27.000 Then I've got this, Europost, new all-time high against the dollar.

00:28:31.000 Oh my goodness, the Europost to a new high against the dollar.

00:28:35.000 Tuesday, rising above U.S.

00:28:38.000 Above that, for the first time in a continuing rally paced by concerns about the U.S.

00:28:38.000 127.

00:28:43.000 budget and trade deficits.

00:28:45.000 I thought trade deficits were good.

00:28:47.000 I thought NASDAQ were good.

00:28:49.000 Europe's 12-nation currency brought about $1.2708 in morning European trading, spiking as high as $1.2725.

00:28:57.000 On Monday, the euro peaked at $1.2681, and again today it's peaked at $1.2708.

00:29:03.000 Market analysts have linked the dollar's weakness to the U.S.

00:29:05.000 deficits, lower U.S.

00:29:07.000 interest rates compared to the European Union that make investing in dollar denominations' assets less attractive, and fears of terrorist attacks in the U.S.

00:29:15.000 Neither the U.S. 0.68

00:29:16.000 Central Bank or the European Central Bank Uh, have indicated readiness to intervene in the currency markets to prop up the greenback.

00:29:23.000 But I talk to the average American, they don't even know.

00:29:27.000 I go, you know the dollar's devalued now by about 40%.

00:29:29.000 Well, you've heard about, you know, how the peso's worthless, right?

00:29:29.000 Huh?

00:29:34.000 Huh?

00:29:35.000 What?

00:29:35.000 Huh?

00:29:36.000 Hey man, did you see that football game?

00:29:39.000 Man, I like it.

00:29:41.000 I'm tough.

00:29:42.000 I drink a lot of beer.

00:29:44.000 Sir, we're losing our Second Amendment.

00:29:45.000 Who's there?

00:29:47.000 Who's there?

00:29:47.000 Who?

00:29:48.000 We'll be back.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

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00:33:00.000 I love the cliche that it's not about left and right, it's about right and wrong, and it is.

00:33:17.000 Whether it's Bill Clinton or George Bush in office, we're losing our liberties, and the borders are more open than ever.

00:33:23.000 Alex Jones here, folks.

00:33:24.000 We're 33 minutes and 25 seconds into this first hour of the show.

00:33:30.000 We've got Paul Joseph Watson joining us from the United Kingdom in the next hour to talk about the new developments with the murder of Princess Diana, who was pregnant.

00:33:39.000 We've known that for years, but now it's mainstream headlines.

00:33:41.000 Then in the third hour, I have Dr. Kilner, Dr. John F. Kilner, the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity.

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00:33:56.000 Here in a minute or two, we're about to go to our first guest, James Bovard, who I've read many of his articles here on air.

00:34:02.000 Author of Terrorism and Tyranny, Trampling Freedom, Justice, and Peace to Rid the World of Evil, and six other books.

00:34:08.000 He's a frequent contributor to the American Spectator, Investors Business Daily, and has also written for the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the Washington Post, Newsweek, and many other publications.

00:34:17.000 Bovard will be discussing his excellent article that's posted on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, Quarantining Dissent.

00:34:25.000 I read part of that article yesterday, How Secret Service Protects Bush from Free Speech.

00:34:30.000 Now, Clinton started this And I've been at demonstrations where the President isn't even involved, and where Democrats and Republicans will quarantine you a half mile, a mile away, they'll put a fence up around you, barricades, threaten to crack your skull if you leave them, and of course the news is a mile away and you're never on the news.

00:34:48.000 I remember the good old days when you got to go scream at who you didn't like from the side of the road, but well, you know, we're like Russia or China now. 0.69

00:34:55.000 So that's coming up here in just a few minutes with the man who wrote a detailed article about this dangerous un-American trend. 0.67

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00:37:00.000 All that evil men and tyrants need to flourish is that good men and women do nothing.

00:37:04.000 All right, joining us, and I'm honored to have him, he's a great researcher and writer, is James Bovard in the article, Quarantining Dissent.

00:37:12.000 And James, good to have you on the show.

00:37:14.000 Hey, thanks for having me on.

00:37:15.000 I appreciate that.

00:37:16.000 You bet.

00:37:17.000 You know, I even heard Drudge a few weeks ago on the air during the stuff in Miami with the World Trade Organization and the free trade area of the Americas trying to push that through, going, these people weren't doing anything.

00:37:31.000 They're quarantining them a mile or two away.

00:37:34.000 They're beating them up.

00:37:36.000 He goes, I want to be able to go out and protest as a conservative.

00:37:39.000 And we saw Bill Clinton try stuff like this.

00:37:42.000 But it's getting institutionalized, as I said, even locally, they do this, to maybe 20 protesters, like we've got leprosy.

00:37:51.000 What's happening?

00:37:52.000 Well, it's amazing how much further the Bush administration has pushed the standards for this kind of thing, because especially, I mean, this happened, I think, sometimes, perhaps in isolated cases under Clinton, but with Bush it seems to be becoming systematic, where you've got the Secret Service going to a place where Bush is going to speak, the Secret Service goes there ahead of time, And in your article, can we go over that?

00:38:14.000 Because I covered some of it yesterday.

00:38:16.000 you know those for protesters usually go far away from where the president

00:38:20.000 speaking in far away from the view of the media and the uh...

00:38:23.000 the so-called preach free speech filter used to quarantine people who

00:38:27.000 oppose bush's policies

00:38:30.000 and in your article can we go over that because i cover some of it yesterday i

00:38:33.000 mean we have admitted cases where they go in and say uh... people who don't like bush don't let him get on the

00:38:39.000 side of the road quarantine them we have cases where people that have

00:38:43.000 signs of a pro-bush are left there.

00:38:45.000 In fact, the DPS four years ago, when he was governor, lost a lawsuit because people that were pro-Bush were left there.

00:38:54.000 In fact, people even staged this.

00:38:55.000 Folks that were against Bush went and said, we're for Bush.

00:38:57.000 They were allowed to stay.

00:38:58.000 Those that were quietly standing there with signs against Bush were arrested just for standing on a public sidewalk by the governor's mansion.

00:39:05.000 They lost several hundred thousand dollar lawsuits.

00:39:08.000 Can you go over that?

00:39:10.000 This is a case in Texas, when Bush was governor of Texas?

00:39:16.000 Yes, well I wasn't saying over that particular case.

00:39:19.000 No, but I'm sitting here and my ear is perked up because I had not heard about that.

00:39:23.000 That sounds like a fascinating case, and it sounds like it's part and parcel of what the Secret Service is doing now.

00:39:29.000 That'll be in your LexisNexis, it was in the Dallas Morning News and Austin American Statesman.

00:39:33.000 Okay, fine, I will pluck that up.

00:39:36.000 You know, what has happened in many places, for instance, what happened in Labor Day 2002, George Bush was going out to give a speech close to Pittsburgh, and there was a retired steel worker, 65 years old, Bill Neal, was there to greet him, holding up a sign saying that the Bush family must surely love the poor since they made so many of us.

00:39:57.000 Well, it turned out that the cops, the local police, at Secret Service's behest, had set up a designated free speech zone Which was on a baseball field, surrounded by a chain-link fence, a third of a mile from where Bush was speaking.

00:40:10.000 And so the cops told this bill, Neil, this retired steel worker, he had to go there, and he said that he wouldn't do it.

00:40:17.000 And he apparently argued with a cop, and from what he said later, it was the cops that he had to arrest him, and the cop said, so how old are you?

00:40:24.000 And Neil says, I'm 65 years old.

00:40:27.000 And at that point, There have been cases where people are miles and miles away in some city park.

00:40:31.000 uh... sixty five-year-old still workers holding up a sign but the uh... but the police were apparently under a lot of

00:40:38.000 pressure from the secret service to clear the area of people that were

00:40:41.000 not supporting bush's policies now they're been cases where people are miles and

00:40:46.000 miles away in some city park

00:40:48.000 and this case uh... it was a way where you couldn't even see the president's

00:40:52.000 route but the folks that loved him were allowed to stand there worshipping

00:40:55.000 uh... him i mean that sounds like something again out of east germany or

00:40:58.000 something uh... i don't know if the east germans were quite that brazen 0.99

00:41:02.000 in some ways probably not

00:41:04.000 But the thing that fascinates me is to see how little controversy there has been over these kind of policies, because this is such a brazen trampling of the First Amendment, Americans' right of freedom of speech, and there have been some local And state judges, which have said that, which have struck down the arrest charges against some of these demonstrators.

00:41:24.000 But there's a federal case that we're supposed to be getting a decision any time out of South Carolina by a federal magistrate.

00:41:31.000 And this is a case that was prosecuted by Ashcroft's Justice Department.

00:41:37.000 There was a single guy there, a 54-year-old guy, holding up a sign saying, no war for oil, when Bush visited in October 2002 in South Carolina.

00:41:47.000 And the police there, under Secret Service orders, had set up a free speech zone half a mile from the airport hangar where Bush was speaking.

00:41:56.000 And Brett Bersi was amidst hundreds of people carrying pro-Bush signs, but the police singled him out and told him he had to leave, you know, and go to the free speech zone.

00:42:06.000 Bersi said no.

00:42:06.000 He was arrested.

00:42:08.000 And shortly thereafter, the cops there dropped the charge against him, but the feds came in and filed a charge against him.

00:42:15.000 So now he's being charged with a federal offense.

00:42:18.000 And, uh, his trial was in November, and they were supposed to make a fast decision, but they haven't done it.

00:42:23.000 So, uh, and some people were saying the Justice Department might be trying to set a precedent in a very conservative state like South Carolina, which it can then use against demonstrators across the country.

00:42:33.000 Well, folks, I mean, understand, these are admitted cases where you got a retiree standing there with a sign, and the Justice Department comes and arrests him and charges him.

00:42:42.000 I mean, this is getting more and more insane right out in the open.

00:42:46.000 Sir, did you hear about, and I can pull up the details here, did you hear about Bush when he went to some of those African countries?

00:42:51.000 They would arrest thousands and put them in sports stadiums just because they didn't want a news camera showing Bush driving through slums and they would bulldoze the wreckage?

00:43:02.000 I had not heard that, no.

00:43:04.000 Now, I will try to pull that up here on the internet, but it was in the BBC and this is happening all over the place.

00:43:11.000 I mean, they have the Fortune 500 rally We had a rally against it a few years ago here in Austin.

00:43:16.000 There were conservatives, liberals out there against it.

00:43:18.000 Only about 400 of us.

00:43:20.000 And they made us stay about a quarter mile away and block the road and threatened to arrest us and had police trying to provocateur.

00:43:28.000 This is, again, I don't know if the listeners realize how serious this is.

00:43:33.000 Yeah, and you know, the folks who are being quarantined are not violent protesters i mean that they're just in the

00:43:43.000 most cases of typical americans who who oppose

00:43:46.000 some of bush policies uh... like the war in iraq and other things

00:43:50.000 but these are not folks who are opposing a threat to the president's safety i mean

00:43:54.000 it's an entirely different principle the secret service has a right

00:43:57.000 protect the uh... protect the president's safety but it doesn't make

00:44:00.000 any sense to assume that people carrying up a a pro bush stein

00:44:04.000 would not be more of a threat than people with an anti-bush side but i want

00:44:06.000 folks to understand bush wasn't down in miami and they had these these protest

00:44:11.000 zones uh... but and i've been in advance

00:44:15.000 where it's conservatives protesting liberals protesting doesn't matter

00:44:19.000 They will hurt us as well.

00:44:21.000 When Vicente Fox came to Austin, we were protesting across the street from the governor's mansion, and we tried to go around the governor's mansion, two streets down on a public street, and the police just walked up and said, no, you can't go down there and protest where they're facing the back of the governor's mansion, and this was just a few months ago, And I literally had to go down two more streets and go around.

00:44:47.000 Police came over and tried to stop us, but the whole crowd was coming.

00:44:50.000 They just went ahead and didn't stop us.

00:44:53.000 But how do they get cops to think their job is arresting or stopping people from standing on public streets?

00:45:02.000 Well, good question.

00:45:04.000 My impression is that there are some law enforcement officers who are not willing to go out and arrest people simply holding up a sign or people making a peaceful protest, but there's a lot of others who will do it.

00:45:15.000 So, I mean, part of it is that there's so much deference being given to the president, to the federal government, and to the Secret Service.

00:45:24.000 And there are many people in law enforcement who don't understand that the Bill of Rights Is a higher authority.

00:45:33.000 than the orders of the Secret Service or the orders or the wishes of President Bush.

00:45:37.000 Here, here.

00:45:37.000 Did you hear about Portland last year?

00:45:39.000 And I saw the local news video where they herded about 3,000 people about a mile away from the hotel where he was staying.

00:45:48.000 They kept them a mile away.

00:45:50.000 And there were people in wheelchairs, folks with toddlers.

00:45:53.000 And the police just opened fire.

00:45:55.000 They herded them all together.

00:45:56.000 Then they opened fire, wouldn't let them escape, ran right up and sprayed a baby right in the face with mace. 0.99

00:46:02.000 And the father said, how dare you?

00:46:04.000 He said, you shouldn't bring a child to this demonstration.

00:46:04.000 It's my child.

00:46:07.000 Did you hear about that?

00:46:09.000 I don't think I heard about the Portland case.

00:46:11.000 I've heard about some similar cases where the cops were very, very aggressive and, you know, well, very aggressive in cases where people were not violent.

00:46:20.000 I mean, it's just, it's amazing this stuff has not created more protest across the political spectrum.

00:46:26.000 Conservatives, liberals, radicals, even moderates should be concerned about these kind of things.

00:46:32.000 I wonder if the American Spectator will let you write an article about this for it?

00:46:38.000 Well, the thing that's interesting is, this is a story which I originally did for the American Conservative, Pat McKeown's magazine, and they were very good to work with on this, but the American Spectator, I guess, is not hitting these kind of issues right now, shall we say.

00:46:54.000 Well, a lot of people aren't.

00:46:56.000 You know, Rush Limbaugh wouldn't talk about the Patriot Act until they started using some provisions to go after his medical records, and that's been in the news.

00:47:03.000 That is rather ironic now, isn't it?

00:47:05.000 You know, better late than never to understand the danger of government power.

00:47:09.000 And now he's actually saying on the radio that it's a conspiracy, but he didn't ever believe in government conspiracies before.

00:47:15.000 Well, it's going to be fascinating to see how that plays out.

00:47:19.000 I'm going to be curious to see what evidence that they actually have.

00:47:22.000 From some of the things which Limbaugh has kind of admitted, I mean, he's someone who was in favor of very vigorous enforcement of these laws, and I don't think there should be an exemption for a multi-millionaire radio host in these laws.

00:47:38.000 Well, that's the amazing thing, is I've heard the guy say, if somebody's caught with pot, throw them under the jail. 1.00

00:47:43.000 Ha, ha, ha, you idiot dopers! 1.00

00:47:46.000 And then he's on something a hundred times stronger, taking levels of a drug that literally, folks, Taking a hundred of those a day would kill an elephant. 1.00

00:47:53.000 He had to really build the dust sub. 0.96

00:47:55.000 And I actually feel sorry for Rush, but yeah, it's very hypocritical.

00:48:00.000 Yeah, I mean, and I've been surprised that there's not been more of a backlash against him, but maybe that will come as time goes on.

00:48:08.000 Oh, where's the backlash for Bush saying he wants total legalization of any illegal that can get here?

00:48:14.000 Yeah, is the White House going to make an announcement on that today?

00:48:17.000 Yeah, they're scheduled to just say, and I've read the law that Bush says he likes, the model law is McCain's law, and it says if you get here, you're legalized for three years.

00:48:33.000 I guess that's conservative.

00:48:35.000 I guess Mao Zedong is conservative now.

00:48:36.000 You know, it is so funny.

00:48:40.000 I'm doing some research now.

00:48:42.000 I'm looking at a number of other areas.

00:48:44.000 Well, you know, it's interesting as far as crowd control and the Patriot Act.

00:48:48.000 I've got a new book out called Terrorism and Tyranny, in which I walk through the Patriot Act and some of the ways that the Bush administration has tried to suspend parts of the Bill of Rights, and to see the type of doctrines, to see what Ashcroft says in public, to see what Bush says in public.

00:49:03.000 It's amazing how much power these folks are grabbing and how little resistance they've had from Congress.

00:49:08.000 They've had almost no effective resistance from Congress.

00:49:10.000 no oversight well you talked about how they got this fifty five-year-old

00:49:16.000 uh...

00:49:16.000 you know i would assign they're charging him with a federal crime for having a sign

00:49:21.000 in a massive bush supporters and i'll probably get a conviction

00:49:25.000 they'll probably put him in prison and then i guess if i'm ever out protesting

00:49:28.000 anywhere uh... i'll go to federal prison

00:49:30.000 I guess that's the new freedom, is to go to federal prison for having a sign.

00:49:35.000 I don't know if this guy is going to be convicted, or if he's convicted, if he'll go to prison.

00:49:39.000 But they're prosecuting him.

00:49:41.000 Right, right.

00:49:41.000 Which is bizarre.

00:49:42.000 Which is completely bizarre.

00:49:45.000 It would have been different if he had been caught, you know, one mile from the President with a concealed weapon and he was talking about an attempted assault.

00:49:54.000 Something like that would have been different.

00:49:56.000 But he had a sign.

00:49:57.000 He had a No War for Oil sign.

00:50:00.000 This is not a deadly weapon.

00:50:02.000 I don't know, though.

00:50:03.000 Did you see the Oakland Tribune article early last year?

00:50:07.000 I was digging through my files and saw it two days ago and fell over.

00:50:10.000 I forgot I even covered it.

00:50:13.000 Mike Van Winkle, the Assistant Attorney General of that state, said, this is a war on terror, and war protesters may need to be arrested, because by protesting the war, they're aiding terrorists.

00:50:24.000 Now, that's a quote, sir.

00:50:27.000 I know that sounds insane, but what you're saying sounds nuts, but we have the White House saying it.

00:50:32.000 What do you think about them apples?

00:50:33.000 Well, yeah, it's interesting seeing the statements by Mike Van Winkle from the Oakland Tribune.

00:50:39.000 Oh, you saw that?

00:50:40.000 Yes, yes, and I had that in the American Conservative version of the article.

00:50:45.000 I don't know if the San Francisco Chronicle used that.

00:50:48.000 Stay there, no, the Chronicle I don't think did.

00:50:51.000 Amazing, wow, so you did see that.

00:50:52.000 Folks, it's really happening.

00:50:55.000 You protest, you're with Al-Qaeda. 0.52

00:50:57.000 I mean, that's a Democrat.

00:50:58.000 We'll be right back with our guest.

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00:54:04.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

00:54:11.000 You know, it sounds crazy when I say that Mike Van Winkle, a Democrat, said,

00:54:22.000 Oh, we can shoot with rubber bullets or attack protesters even if they're peaceful because...

00:54:29.000 We can arrest whoever we want, because if you're protesting the war, you're aiding Al-Qaeda. 0.88

00:54:35.000 When we talk about them arresting 65 and 55 year old steel workers and charging one of them for having a sign, Uh, federally going after him.

00:54:44.000 I mean, this is really happening here in the good old USA.

00:54:48.000 It's not America anymore if we can't stand on the street corner.

00:54:51.000 Now, they tried years ago saying you gotta have a permit.

00:54:53.000 That's not true.

00:54:53.000 A permit to take over the street, to have a parade, not to have a protest on any public sidewalk or street you want.

00:55:01.000 And I'm telling you, the next time Bush is coming to Texas, I'm going out to protest, and I'm gonna have a sign, and I'm gonna get on the public street.

00:55:08.000 If they want to arrest me, that's fine.

00:55:09.000 I'm gonna sue them.

00:55:10.000 And again, I guess they don't care, they just use our money to fight us with.

00:55:13.000 Where do you see this going, James Bovard?

00:55:16.000 Well, I don't know, but it's certainly very worrying.

00:55:20.000 It is a question of how many people speak up and protest this.

00:55:23.000 How many people recognize the government is acting out of control here?

00:55:27.000 The government's got no right to be doing this kind of stuff?

00:55:30.000 So far, I mean, Congress has done nothing on this.

00:55:35.000 Congress has not had any hearings on this.

00:55:38.000 There's been a smattering of stuff in the papers on this.

00:55:41.000 There's been one or two things on TV, but by and large, the feds are getting away with this.

00:55:46.000 Why would Van Winkle say something like that?

00:55:48.000 You know, it's a typical law.

00:55:55.000 It is a mindset which is not unusual in law enforcement to assume that anybody who's out there protesting is anti-Gummard or anti-American or whatever.

00:56:05.000 I mean, there are many policemen who don't have that mindset, but this is something which I've run across a number of times.

00:56:12.000 Well, that's called tyranny. 0.60

00:56:14.000 Well, it's certainly overreaching massively, but the thing that's nice about some of Van Winkle's comments is they are so bizarre that they're comical, and it's always great to make people laugh at these characters.

00:56:27.000 Yeah, it's so bizarre, but I'm sure you heard about the head of the Judiciary Committee Up in Oregon, who says if one protester blocks traffic, all protesters get life in prison in a forest labor camp?

00:56:39.000 Uh, you know, it does, you know... Did you see that bill by Senator Menace?

00:56:46.000 Yes, yes.

00:56:47.000 It was, you know, it was kind of... You really wonder if, you know, there's someone who forgot to take his medicine that day.

00:56:54.000 I mean, James, we're talking about forest labor camps now in mainstream bills.

00:57:00.000 Well, it was one bill, it didn't go anyplace, but it's certainly amazing that he would even propose that.

00:57:06.000 It was stunning.

00:57:07.000 Well, he's the chairman!

00:57:10.000 I'm totally freaked out, and I want to get a copy of your book from your publisher, and get you back on.

00:57:16.000 That's Terrorism and Tyranny, Trampling Freedom, Justice and Peace, to Rid the World of Evil.

00:57:21.000 And that's exactly, last week, what Richard Perle said. 0.98

00:57:24.000 We've got to attack all these countries, maybe even France, because they're evil. 0.76

00:57:29.000 Well, you know, that is something which I take personally, being of French descent, though, you know, about 400 years ago, I always say the best thing that ever happened to my family was being kicked out of France for being Huguenots. 0.98

00:57:42.000 But still, I mean, all this anti-French sentiment that Richard Perle and other people have been stirring up, it's insane!

00:57:47.000 Hey, they helped start this country!

00:57:49.000 They haven't attacked us twice like England! 1.00

00:57:52.000 That's true.

00:57:53.000 I mean, I'm Alsatian.

00:57:53.000 And I'm not.

00:57:54.000 I'm German-French on my mom's side, but I'm just getting sick of this.

00:57:57.000 Well, look, James Bovard, I really appreciate you coming on the show, and I want to have you back on in the future and a great job.

00:58:04.000 Where can folks read some of your latest columns?

00:58:07.000 Well, I've got a website, jimbovard.com.

00:58:11.000 B-O-V-A-R-D. 1.00

00:58:12.000 And I've got a lot of stuff there, and stuff's popping up in a lot of different places, and hopefully it's going to pop up some more.

00:58:18.000 JimBovard.com.

00:58:20.000 We've got a link to the San Francisco Chronicle article you wrote a few days ago.

00:58:24.000 Yes, I've got a link to that.

00:58:26.000 I've got a link to a lot of stories that have been published recently there.

00:58:30.000 All right, sir.

00:58:30.000 Thanks for coming on, and God bless.

00:58:33.000 Oh, boy.

00:58:34.000 Well, you heard about the Forest Labor Camps.

00:58:36.000 You heard about arresting protesters because we're terrorists, and they are arresting them and charging them as terrorists.

00:58:41.000 You heard it, 55-year-old men.

00:58:43.000 We'll be back with your calls and a lot more in the second hour, so stay with us.

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01:00:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:15.000 I tell you, if you missed that last hour, it was absolutely incredible.

01:00:23.000 There I had James Bovard, who is a well-known conservative slash libertarian.

01:00:31.000 Rights for the American Spectator, Rights for Pat Buchanan's Magazine, Investor Business Daily, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, Newsweek.

01:00:40.000 James Bovard, folks, saying he can't believe how bad it's gotten.

01:00:45.000 They're arresting 65- and 55-year-old steel workers for holding up a sign amongst thousands of Bush supporters that says, no blood for oil.

01:00:55.000 And they arrest you and charge you from the Justice Department under terrorism clauses.

01:01:01.000 I mentioned Mike Van Winkle last year, the Assistant Attorney General of California, a Democrat, saying, we're arresting the protesters because protesting the war is an act of terror and we may shoot them. 0.94

01:01:16.000 He actually said, we can shoot them, beat them, doesn't matter if they're peaceful. 0.95

01:01:20.000 Folks, he said this in a TV interview. 0.99

01:01:22.000 It was all over the news.

01:01:24.000 And I didn't know that Bovar knew about that.

01:01:26.000 He mentioned it.

01:01:27.000 It was in his article, but I guess not in the exercise when I read the mainstream news.

01:01:32.000 And we know, I talk about forest labor camps, and he goes, oh yeah, those forest labor camps, yeah, yeah.

01:01:37.000 You know, I mean, we're living in the Twilight Zone.

01:01:40.000 Bush is for open borders, gun control, he's conservative, we're liberal because we're against it.

01:01:45.000 You know, if you're against Hitler, you're a Nazi. 0.66

01:01:48.000 If you're against Stalin, you're a Communist.

01:01:49.000 I mean, and I'm not being sarcastic here.

01:01:51.000 It's gotten that crazy.

01:01:53.000 He talked about how most conservatives out there just love it.

01:01:55.000 They think, well, this is the new conservatism.

01:01:57.000 Good, arrest anybody that protests the war.

01:02:02.000 We're talking about peaceful protesters here, folks.

01:02:06.000 This is unbelievable.

01:02:07.000 Absolutely unbelievable.

01:02:08.000 There's so much more news coming up.

01:02:10.000 We've got Paul Watson here in about 30 minutes to talk about, admittedly now in the media, the government killing Princess Diana, how she was pregnant and the rest of it in her note listing one of the British Royal Family members as planning to kill her in a fake car accident months before she was killed.

01:02:28.000 That's coming up, and just a bunch of other insane news that's all mainstream, telling you how wonderful all the tyranny is.

01:02:33.000 Right now, let's talk to Rob in Wyoming.

01:02:35.000 Rob, you're on the air.

01:02:36.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:02:38.000 I didn't hear that normal sound that comes on the air.

01:02:38.000 Hey, Alex.

01:02:41.000 Listen, I've got something I think it's important to tell you.

01:02:45.000 I've seen these unmarked helicopters before, and I'd heard of them before.

01:02:50.000 After 9-11, I'd watch the skies.

01:02:51.000 I'd see the NATO star on some of them, going way low and stuff.

01:02:57.000 And it's admitted, NITO aircraft, F-16s and AWACS and others are in our skies.

01:03:02.000 It's all part of the freedom.

01:03:03.000 Right.

01:03:03.000 And since then I've seen flying in tandem in broad daylight and stuff.

01:03:07.000 Nobody cares.

01:03:09.000 Okay, now, last couple days I've been using the internet, chat room, just normal chat rooms, talking to people in other countries, right?

01:03:18.000 France, Britain, Pakistan. 0.91

01:03:22.000 And just being normal, but when the subject comes up, talking about it.

01:03:26.000 Pointing out Mahmoud Ahmad, the ISI chief, meeting with Porter Goss and Phil Graham, the heads of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, on the morning of 9-11, eating breakfast with them in Washington, D.C.

01:03:41.000 Pointing it out, saying it flat out to them and letting them know that this is going to affect them and us and everybody.

01:03:49.000 And they don't like that very much, I guess, because for the last two days, I got to where I didn't bother with these Aircraft going over anymore.

01:03:57.000 Usually it was this Life Flight plane, supposedly doing training missions, I guess.

01:04:02.000 Or training flights, you know.

01:04:03.000 They're flying three or four times a day all over the place.

01:04:07.000 But, it has to be training.

01:04:08.000 It can't be that many medical emergencies.

01:04:10.000 But anyway.

01:04:11.000 So, every once in a while, you'd see an unmarked one instead of the Life Flight.

01:04:16.000 So, last couple days I've heard this horrendous noise.

01:04:20.000 This one really low flying one yesterday when I started doing this on the chat rooms.

01:04:25.000 And I didn't go out to look at it, but today it was so loud and so low.

01:04:30.000 Well, sir, I mean, to say they're doing that to you because you're on a chat room is a... I mean, they're doing it to everybody.

01:04:36.000 Rob, Rob, Rob, I can be in a hotel room in California and there's helicopters scanning houses flying around.

01:04:43.000 I mean, it happens to my house.

01:04:45.000 It happens when I'm, you know, at a restaurant in South Austin, North Austin.

01:04:49.000 We'll talk more about this.

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01:08:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:16.000 Alright, my friends, we have Dr. John F. Kilner.

01:08:20.000 Coming on, the President of the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity to talk about cloning.

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01:08:37.000 Also, we got Paul Watson here in about 25 minutes to talk about the latest Princess Diana information.

01:08:43.000 You know, our caller, Rob, He's saying he has unmarked helicopters perpetually flying around his house, flying over his house.

01:08:51.000 And, you know, could it be because he's fighting the New World Order?

01:08:54.000 And it certainly could be.

01:08:55.000 But statistically, I've talked to hundreds of people who don't even know about this, who have helicopters hovering over their house.

01:09:01.000 Here in Austin, government-owned Cessnas with ground-penetrating radar admittedly fly grid patterns over the city, looking right through our walls with the ground-penetrating radar, recording what's in your house, the details, the floor plan, the layout.

01:09:15.000 It's part of this big spatial network that Homeland Security already had set up under DARPA, but has now announced.

01:09:20.000 They've got digital photos of the front and back of all your houses.

01:09:24.000 They've got this all laid into computers.

01:09:27.000 And it happens to everybody!

01:09:28.000 This is part of the new free country, is helicopters and planes and foreign aircraft, admittedly, just flying around.

01:09:35.000 And, you know, people mention foreign troops.

01:09:37.000 The BBC reported a few months ago several Eastern Bloc countries Ukraine, you name it, running checkpoints in northern Scotland, pulling families out of cars, shoving men to the ground with guns in their heads.

01:09:54.000 They were panicked, people freaking out.

01:09:56.000 We've had that happen here with foreign troops.

01:09:57.000 It's always a drill, and we're sorry.

01:09:59.000 It's part of acclimation.

01:10:01.000 So when it really happens, we hesitate, and, oh, that's happened before.

01:10:06.000 So your local police will hesitate, and, oh, it's just a drill.

01:10:09.000 You know, almost every town in the country has had drills where troops practice taking over the city hall.

01:10:13.000 I mean, I've been to dozens of them right here in Texas.

01:10:15.000 Foreign troops, police chiefs admitting it.

01:10:17.000 Well, the check troops are here, and some police chiefs throw them out.

01:10:21.000 Well, they tried to bribe me.

01:10:22.000 That's a San Antonio police chief.

01:10:24.000 That's in Police State 2000.

01:10:26.000 But to say that they have the infrastructure or the people, let's take my website.

01:10:30.000 It gets, I don't know, 5 to 10 million hits a month, you know, depending on what month it is.

01:10:36.000 Prisonplanet.com gets the same.

01:10:38.000 Infowars.com does.

01:10:41.000 Millions of individual people.

01:10:42.000 Do they have planes to all visit everybody that goes online or does something?

01:10:46.000 Again, that's part of the illusion.

01:10:48.000 The truth is, most of the troops, most of the military, most of the police are starting to wake up and are on our side.

01:10:54.000 99% of them said no to the smallpox shot.

01:10:57.000 Ninety-nine plus percent.

01:10:59.000 In major polls, now they had a major poll just came out where 91% of police are pro-Second Amendment, but they're ordered to carry out these unconstitutional orders.

01:11:08.000 So my point is we shouldn't be afraid.

01:11:10.000 Yeah, they announce Echelon can listen to all of us and they're listening to all our phones and tracking us and doing all this.

01:11:15.000 Yeah, they have the power to do that, but they don't have the infrastructure or the people to follow it up or do something with it.

01:11:22.000 That's why the New York Times article I read in the first hour is so important.

01:11:26.000 Where, under the new national draft, to graduate from high school, or some will be paid, you will, a few hours a day, watch your computer screen that will feed you shots of power plants and schools and other things around the country, and if you see suspicious activity, you yell at them over loudspeakers.

01:11:46.000 This is the New York Times, getting us all involved in the tattletailing and the telescreen that was shout orders at Winston.

01:11:52.000 He's walking down the street not doing something right.

01:11:54.000 What are you doing?

01:11:56.000 Are you a terrorist?

01:11:57.000 Are you with Goldstein, which is Al-Qaeda? 0.89

01:11:57.000 Are you suspicious? 0.89

01:12:00.000 Stand there!

01:12:01.000 We're going to have some guards come interview you.

01:12:03.000 I mean, it's literally that.

01:12:05.000 Rob, go ahead.

01:12:07.000 I'm going to be interviewing them, I hope to be.

01:12:10.000 They've got some things to answer, too.

01:12:13.000 I'm going to be watching them.

01:12:15.000 What's in your area?

01:12:17.000 Let me say this.

01:12:18.000 I'm in Mills, Wyoming, which is just on the northwest side of Casper, the biggest city in Wyoming.

01:12:25.000 I hope they do it again, because I've got a digital movie camera now, and I'll just photograph it all and the relationship to the rest of the house and so on.

01:12:36.000 That way, I'm sick of these people denying that this is going on, or they'll even acknowledge it is, but it's perfectly understandable.

01:12:43.000 Let me ask you a question. 0.98

01:12:44.000 Oh yeah, you're crazy to ask. 0.88

01:12:46.000 The Sheriff's saying these masked men are coming to town, but don't worry about them. 0.69

01:12:50.000 It's okay.

01:12:52.000 I gave them permission to.

01:12:53.000 Well, let me ask you a question.

01:12:55.000 I've talked to former SWAT team people.

01:12:58.000 One of them works at the airport now.

01:12:59.000 He's a retired Vietnam veteran sniper in Vietnam.

01:13:02.000 He was the head of the SWAT team.

01:13:03.000 I've talked to others.

01:13:07.000 Many times, they would be told, go raid this house.

01:13:09.000 They'd bust in.

01:13:11.000 It'd be generally some old retiree. 0.98

01:13:13.000 There'd be four or five fish tanks and maybe some plants.

01:13:18.000 And they were using too much power.

01:13:20.000 They have computer programs that the city does, the police department does, that, okay, two people live here, and the average for this size house, it's using too much power, and just on that, you get a SWAT team rating.

01:13:32.000 And they said many times, more often than not, sometimes they bust down a door, Nobody would be home.

01:13:39.000 They wouldn't find anything.

01:13:40.000 They would just leave.

01:13:41.000 Not even file a report.

01:13:43.000 No, I'm not kidding.

01:13:44.000 So, this is the new freedom in America.

01:13:48.000 You've got a home business.

01:13:49.000 Too many computers running.

01:13:50.000 Too much power use.

01:13:51.000 You might get a SWAT team raider.

01:13:52.000 You've got some lights that are real bright in your house.

01:13:56.000 Well, those show up on the infrared.

01:13:57.000 We've got to raid you.

01:13:58.000 See, it's all part of this freedom, Rob.

01:14:00.000 Well, you know, and you make a good point and it makes sense.

01:14:03.000 It's very possible that it's just an indoctrination for the whole city.

01:14:09.000 Yeah, everything is getting us used to being droned and scanned and camera'd.

01:14:13.000 Did you hear me read where they're going to have tattletale squads watching all the cameras and shouting at you on bullhorns from cameras?

01:14:21.000 I think that's what they want to have, but I don't think we're going to stand for that.

01:14:25.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:14:26.000 I think it's to stop terrorists.

01:14:29.000 The terrorists attacked and we gotta... I think it's breaking up and I think one of the best tools of all is the internet and especially going into chat rooms talking with average people.

01:14:38.000 A lot of Americans, of course.

01:14:40.000 All over the world.

01:14:42.000 God bless you.

01:14:42.000 Keep it up.

01:14:43.000 Take care, man.

01:14:44.000 You bet.

01:14:44.000 We'll go to more calls here in just a minute.

01:14:45.000 I want to cover a couple other articles.

01:14:46.000 If you want to join us on air, we'll take calls up until Watson's on.

01:14:50.000 And with Watson here in about 15 minutes, 20 minutes.

01:14:52.000 I'll also mention that the Euro is now at $1.27 plus against the dollar.

01:14:52.000 1-800-259-9231.

01:14:56.000 I mean, folks, this is getting insane.

01:14:58.000 Again, a year and a half ago, the Euro was at 90 cents.

01:15:01.000 three one also mentioned that the euro is now at a dollar twenty

01:15:05.000 seven plus against the dollar

01:15:07.000 i mean folks this is getting insane uh... again a year and a half ago the euro was a nice

01:15:12.000 answer down a dollar twenty seven plus

01:15:15.000 and uh... the whole world's talking about our economy's folding right now in

01:15:19.000 our news is everything is wonderful everything is good this time i get is

01:15:22.000 up don't matter that they are record bankruptcies one hundred and sixty five

01:15:26.000 one million six hundred and fifty plus thousand for club uh... bankruptcies record foreclosures all of it

01:15:33.000 just don't worry about that everything's fine a weakening dollars good

01:15:37.000 a It's just amazing, folks.

01:15:41.000 So that's happening.

01:15:42.000 New York Gold hits 15-year high in first O4 session.

01:15:46.000 Gold futures traded above the 425 an ounce for the first time in more than 15 years in New York Monday, extending its watershed rally on the first trading day of O4 as investors continued to diversify out of the beleaguered dollar.

01:16:03.000 Beleaguered?

01:16:03.000 I thought it was good the Treasury Secretary said to have a bad dollar.

01:16:07.000 Yeah, it was good for Mexico to have a weak peso.

01:16:09.000 What's wrong with you people?

01:16:10.000 Other precious metals surge as well, but gold is considered a form of currency and is seen as a hard alternative to the greenback.

01:16:17.000 It built last year's 20% gain as the dollar hit a new low against the soaring euro.

01:16:23.000 So you have a devalued dollar, and so of course you're going to have a stock market that's up.

01:16:29.000 It takes more of those devalued dollars to buy U.S.

01:16:32.000 stocks.

01:16:34.000 Do you understand that, folks?

01:16:36.000 That's what's really going on here.

01:16:38.000 And it's absolutely amazing.

01:16:40.000 Again, coming up, Diana Death Plot Royal Named. 0.61

01:16:44.000 The senior member of the royal family who Princess Diana believed was plotting to kill her in a car crash has been named.

01:16:50.000 I mean, she says in letters and videotapes.

01:16:53.000 By the way, the videotapes were seized by Prince Philip.

01:16:57.000 A few months ago, out of her safe.

01:16:59.000 They didn't know it was there.

01:17:00.000 Found out in MI5, dropped by and got those.

01:17:02.000 We'll be seeing those videos, but she said that a member of the Roll family was going to kill her in a fake car accident.

01:17:08.000 Well, now they've named that Royal.

01:17:11.000 We'll be talking about that with Watson.

01:17:13.000 Diana's allegation was made in a letter written ten months before she died.

01:17:16.000 It was written in another letter two months before.

01:17:19.000 In a Paris car crash in 97 and was included in a book by her former butler, Paul Burrell, last year.

01:17:26.000 But don't worry, the Roll family is now calling for an inquest.

01:17:28.000 It's like Janet Reno appoints John Danford to investigate her on Waco, and we all call him independent.

01:17:35.000 It's like Bush, with his appointed committee, with his former business partners and others, all on it, and this is independent.

01:17:43.000 It's like Herman Goering being hired to investigate Hitler.

01:17:47.000 Oh, it's incredible.

01:17:52.000 We'll be going, again, more into that.

01:17:54.000 Also, Bush grabs new power for FBI.

01:17:57.000 There's finally a few articles that, oh, Patriot Act II was really passed.

01:18:01.000 While the nation was distracted last month by images of Saddam Hussein's spider hole and the dental exam, President Bush was quietly signing a law, a new bill, that gives the FBI increased surveillance powers, a lot more than that, and dramatically expands the reach of the USA Patriot Act.

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01:19:17.000 Blair makes surprise visit to Iraq.

01:19:19.000 This is ABC News of Australia.

01:19:21.000 And he slipped up and said, Freudian slip, he said that we're talking about weapons of mass distraction.

01:19:29.000 He said that.

01:19:30.000 We'll get into that too.

01:19:32.000 Blair's Freudian slip betrays terror scams.

01:19:35.000 And Iraq police chief says U.S.

01:19:39.000 Army gunned down a family knowingly.

01:19:43.000 Conservative Simmer is spending mushrooms under bush?

01:19:46.000 Well, that is conservatism!

01:19:48.000 This is all coming up, plus suddenly Rush Limbaugh is concerned about conspiracies.

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01:24:05.000 You know, I'm just sitting here loving this country and my family watching it turn into a giant prison system.

01:24:12.000 And we're trying to wake folks up, desperately.

01:24:15.000 Let's talk to Chris in Colorado on a cell phone.

01:24:18.000 Go ahead, Chris.

01:24:19.000 I'm a new listener, about six months, and I wanted to make a comment about a question you asked yesterday, referring to the cat and cow disease.

01:24:19.000 Yes, sir.

01:24:30.000 You said they had discovered it before, Why were they making it public now?

01:24:35.000 And maybe this is kind of a simplistic view, but right now, or before they announced this mad cow, beef prices, live beef prices in the United States were as high as they've probably ever been.

01:24:52.000 And I really think that they're trying to break the producer.

01:24:56.000 And they couldn't Well, no, that's what a lot of experts are saying, and Big Agra did this, and they can survive the shake-up, but the small ranchers and farmers are going to have big problems.

01:25:06.000 They put all this in the food, they disease the cattle, which is a small minority of them, the bee's pretty safe, folks, then they come in with regulation, microchips, federal control, and that's exactly what's happening.

01:25:17.000 So, we can see that happening.

01:25:19.000 So, yes, we know it was there, we know they covered it up, And we know that that is now coming out because they feel like it, because the technology is now up to the point for them to put this in.

01:25:28.000 Yeah, like I say, maybe that was just a small view on my part, but I really thought that was the reason that they announced it now, so they could bring the beef prices back down.

01:25:41.000 They're not going to allow the producer to make money.

01:25:44.000 If the producers all go broke, which is happening on a regular basis, When you control the food supply in this country, you control the people.

01:25:54.000 Well, sir, we can barely afford, and I'm talking about my family in East Texas, my father's side of the family, that I'm very close to.

01:26:02.000 We can barely afford to put new fences in, and we've got to because they're falling down.

01:26:07.000 And we pay the taxes, we put in the fences, and with these prices up, we were going to be able to get all the new fences done in a whole section of the ranch.

01:26:17.000 It's a large ranch, you know, Spanish-era ranch.

01:26:19.000 And you're right.

01:26:20.000 Now, we may not be able to.

01:26:22.000 This is really going to hurt my family.

01:26:24.000 And I'm so mad at Big Agra, I'm mad at them for everything they're doing. 0.61

01:26:27.000 Right, right.

01:26:28.000 And, you know, the sad part, I think, is the general public blame the farmers for the prices in the grocery stores.

01:26:36.000 And it's not the farmer.

01:26:38.000 The farmers, you know, wheat prices are comparable to what they were 80 years ago.

01:26:46.000 I don't have the numbers in front of me, but what is it, for a bushel of corn or something, the farmer will get like five cents or something, and then by the time they sell it to you at the store, you know, the box of cereal is, you know, seven dollars, five dollars.

01:27:02.000 I mean, yeah, the markup is incredible.

01:27:05.000 Yes, exactly.

01:27:06.000 I think, I haven't looked recently, but I think last time I had looked, wheat prices to the farmer We're probably in the $2.75 to $3.00 range per bushel.

01:27:18.000 That's 60 pounds of wheat in a bushel.

01:27:21.000 Okay, then I'm thinking of a smaller number.

01:27:23.000 Again, I said I don't have the numbers in front of me.

01:27:25.000 But the ratio, I've seen it in the news over the years, the ratio is the big producer makes a couple dollars.

01:27:33.000 And the farmer that actually produced it only makes a few cents.

01:27:36.000 I don't have those numbers in front of me.

01:27:37.000 You're exactly right.

01:27:38.000 And that's why the small farmer is going broke today.

01:27:42.000 And I'm seeing it right and left.

01:27:44.000 I try to do some farming myself, but I've got to hold down another job.

01:27:48.000 And I honestly believe, and I had this argument with an employer that I had, and he just couldn't see this.

01:27:59.000 When they control the food, they're going to control the people.

01:28:03.000 Well, that's the first thing Stalin and Mao did.

01:28:05.000 Thanks for the call.

01:28:07.000 Really great points.

01:28:08.000 Bill in New Jersey, then Ann and Paula and others.

01:28:12.000 Go ahead, Bill.

01:28:13.000 Yeah, a really good thing people can do right now is start planting trees all around your property, any kind of apple or fruit producing or food, nut trees, stuff like that, you know.

01:28:26.000 Uh, very good job you've done as far as reporting, you know, different stories and stuff like that.

01:28:32.000 But the thing that really bothers me the most, aside from living in New Jersey and having, uh, feeling everything, you know, you talk about, we have here, you know, tenfold, uh, a lot harder, you know, hitting on us.

01:28:47.000 Sid Kaspersen, your state FEMA liaison, said under a red alert, you can't leave your house or you'll be an enemy combatant.

01:28:53.000 You want to talk about helicopter traffic like right outside my house, but you know, the encouraging thing is a lot of times like I kind of get down, you know, listening to you, like just giving the news, not really your fault, but you know, it kind of bumps me out.

01:29:09.000 But the encouraging thing is that the people that are flying these helicopters and they're out there, whatever they're doing, you know, it's music to their ears.

01:29:18.000 When they hear your show, Alex, and you know, the different things that you talk about, And the stuff that I say, all put together, you know, they're really on our side.

01:29:29.000 And, you know, the bad guys... No, you're right.

01:29:31.000 You're right.

01:29:31.000 Most of them are.

01:29:32.000 They're upset.

01:29:33.000 People in government don't like this.

01:29:35.000 That's why we have to be the leaders, stand up and say no, then it makes it easier for them to join us.

01:29:40.000 Amazing points.

01:29:43.000 We're on the march.

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01:31:00.000 Late summer 2002, I heard the same thing.

01:31:04.000 Late summer 2001, you heard the same thing.

01:31:07.000 The Dow Jones Industrial Average, currently trading in a 93 to 9400 range, is down 7% from two years ago.

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01:33:04.000 Alright, Anne and Paula and Jerry and Ed and others will get to your calls here in just a few minutes after Watson gets to his first story with Princess Diana murder.

01:33:13.000 Paul Watson, bringing you up here on the air.

01:33:17.000 Before we get into the Princess Diana story, you're the author of Order Out of Chaos, Elite Sponsored Terror, and the New World Order.

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01:33:41.000 Why should folks get your new book?

01:33:43.000 Well, as you said, Alex, I don't mean I'm being getting all sorts of flack, calling me a conspiracy theorist and everything, but that's the point.

01:33:51.000 The book itself has roughly around 30 documented sources for each chapter.

01:33:58.000 We list them at the bottom of every page where you can find exactly what I'm talking about with the hyperlink to the mainstream article.

01:34:05.000 So, I mean, I gave it recently to a family member who was in the military who disagreed completely with what I said initially.

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01:36:37.000 Paul, let's talk about Uh, the Diana situation.

01:36:41.000 For our listeners, it's nothing new.

01:36:43.000 We knew three, four years ago she was pregnant. 0.88

01:36:45.000 We knew they had her killed.

01:36:46.000 We knew she talked to friends and family about this.

01:36:49.000 But now it's all come out with the latest developments, and they're now saying that they know the name of the royal, uh, that had been blacked out in the media, uh, that, uh, she was saying was gonna have her killed in a fake auto accident, and that's exactly what happened!

01:37:02.000 Then you have all the other evidence.

01:37:03.000 Go over it for us.

01:37:05.000 Well, yeah, the update on Diana, as both inquests on her death and Dodi Fayed's death are actually just started today, is that the man who Diana named as being behind a plot to kill her by means of a car crash has been revealed to be Prince Charles.

01:37:21.000 Now, we've been through the evidence in a previous interview, and that's in the Prison Planet audio archive.

01:37:27.000 Anyone can listen to it.

01:37:29.000 But the incessant drumbeat in the British media today is, oh, will the inquest prove the conspiracy theories to be true?

01:37:36.000 And it's not a conspiracy theory that the journalists saw a flash of light in the tunnel before the crash.

01:37:43.000 It's not a conspiracy theory that the journey to the hospital took 70 minutes and the ambulance passed two hospitals on the way.

01:37:51.000 And they made her stay there at the crash site for an hour and 20 minutes.

01:37:54.000 Yeah, and it's not a conspiracy theory that the car itself was driving in the opposite direction to Dodi's apartment, which was the initial, you know, where they were supposed to be.

01:38:06.000 It's not a conspiracy theory that the CCTV cameras were turned towards the wall.

01:38:10.000 And they now admit that the driver did indeed work for British Intelligence.

01:38:15.000 Yeah, and that came out in a documentary on Channel 5, which is one of the big channels in Britain, that Henri Paul was an MI6 informant.

01:38:24.000 Thousands of pounds in his bank account, and he'd been working with them in the past, and the tunnel itself was crawling with MI6.

01:38:33.000 And the cameras turned off minutes before by accident and turned towards the wall.

01:38:38.000 And the crash scene itself was not preserved.

01:38:41.000 It was sprayed clean immediately after.

01:38:43.000 And now it's come out that the senior police officer in France saw the medical reports, which confirmed that Diana was pregnant at the time of the crash.

01:38:53.000 Diana herself told the press days before her death that she would have a big announcement to make, and this is obviously why her body was immediately embalmed after she died, because the use of formaldehyde made it impossible to tell if she was pregnant, so that's why they used the formaldehyde.

01:39:13.000 And now they're going to perhaps dig the body up, and of course the uterus will be cut out. 1.00

01:39:17.000 Yeah, set for more cover-ups, and it came out In the middle of December that Dodie and Diane, I mean we already knew this, but it was confirmed that they were both under surveillance by MI5 and the NSA.

01:39:32.000 And as I said, the tunnel was crawling with those agents.

01:39:34.000 Now the inquest which is taking place after six years, obviously normally an inquest into somebody's death is conducted within six months, but the inquest itself is chaired by somebody called Sir John Stevens, who the government appointed, and you mentioned Earlier about Reno pointing, you know, her own person to investigate herself.

01:39:57.000 Well, Sir John Stevens was also appointed by the government to whitewash MI5 involvement in Irish Republican terrorism in Northern Ireland.

01:40:08.000 He basically said that it was a mistake that MI5 had an agent within the Omar bomb squad helping the terrorists.

01:40:14.000 So, I mean, as with the Hutton inquiry into David Kelly's death, what I'd see happening is that they will confirm All of the evidence we've presented regarding Diana will then bury it within hundreds of pages of firm transcripts, and the media will deliberately ignore it.

01:40:32.000 And now, I mean, look, we have Princess Diana saying, they're going to kill me in a fake car accident, Prince Charles is.

01:40:39.000 And then that happens.

01:40:40.000 I mean, come on!

01:40:41.000 Well, I mean, that's the thing.

01:40:43.000 We've got, again, this incessant drumbeat of, oh, will the conspiracy theories be proved true?

01:40:50.000 This is evidence, and when you tie it with motive, you know, the path was laid clear for Charles to remarry.

01:40:56.000 Also, the car got stolen a week before, had the computer taken out, a new computer put in, and then his return cleaned and detailed?

01:41:04.000 I mean, normally, for a governor or a state rep or anybody, if their car gets stolen, returned clean, you then have a major investigation.

01:41:11.000 Is there something in that car?

01:41:12.000 Yeah, I mean, the car itself after the crash was Impounded on a, you know, securely guarded facility under a giant tarp and nobody's allowed to go anywhere near it.

01:41:23.000 And I mean, the same thing will happen with the Hutton Inquiry.

01:41:27.000 It will come out that, you know, Kelly bled to death and there was no blood at the scene.

01:41:33.000 Apparently there were, you know, men in jumpsuits around his body before they found him.

01:41:37.000 And yet the media was more interested in the fact that his wife was selling the family estate.

01:41:42.000 With the Diana Inquest, a similar thing will happen.

01:41:44.000 They'll basically put the truth in plain view, but then spin it to look like something else.

01:41:49.000 So, our job is just to stick to the facts and present them as they are.

01:41:55.000 What are people saying on the ground?

01:41:57.000 I've seen polls where 75% of the British people believe that Prince Charles had her whacked.

01:42:02.000 Where are the numbers now?

01:42:04.000 Are there any new polls from last month?

01:42:06.000 I haven't seen any new polls, but yeah, as you said, the initial polls, 80-90 percent, and even immediately after her death, the polls were already 60-70 percent.

01:42:16.000 So all this new evidence is just, you know, convincing people to a greater extent.

01:42:22.000 But of course, nothing will happen to Prince Charles.

01:42:24.000 There's now the rape charges with the little Illuminati fund they like to have with the servants.

01:42:32.000 But I guess, where is that going?

01:42:34.000 Yeah, that's the thing, that the rape case involving Charles completely disappeared out of the public view.

01:42:41.000 And of course that woman that alleged that Bush raped her in Houston, Houston Chronicle said she shot herself in the back of the head a couple times, but hey, it's a suicide, Paul.

01:42:51.000 Yeah, and in fact...

01:42:52.000 One of the witnesses to Diana's crash, who was driving a white Fiat Uno, who went on to prove that he had nothing to do with the crash, but that was the patsy that they were attempting to blame it all on.

01:43:03.000 He later turned up dead after being burnt out in his car, and there was no sufficient explanation behind that.

01:43:10.000 Just a burnt-up skeleton in a car, but probably dropped a cigarette or something.

01:43:15.000 Yeah.

01:43:16.000 Again, it's just like the Kennedy assassination.

01:43:18.000 All the witnesses that can say what happened are taken out.

01:43:24.000 Amazing.

01:43:25.000 Yeah, I know if I witnessed some type of government assassination, I'd probably move to New Zealand and change my name.

01:43:32.000 Well, I mean, that's the first thing.

01:43:35.000 One of the journalists, the first person to actually inspect the crash scene and see that it was Diana.

01:43:42.000 I mean, he went to the police station to tell them that, you know, Diana had been killed in a car crash or was still alive at that point.

01:43:49.000 And the police immediately arrested him and held him in detention for almost a day.

01:43:55.000 And then he was forced to sign a deposition saying that basically he'd revoked everything that he'd just said.

01:44:00.000 So again, eliminate the witnesses if you're trying to successfully orchestrate a cover-up.

01:44:06.000 They do it every time.

01:44:08.000 But it is coming out now.

01:44:10.000 We have to ask ourselves why.

01:44:13.000 Well, obviously the public pressure for an inquest has been so great because it's been six years that the government are having to whitewash it, basically.

01:44:24.000 And it does serve as a distraction, as we were mentioning, to the Prince Charles rape case, because as soon as that broke in the headlines, this letter was released from Paul Burrell saying that Diana predicted her own death.

01:44:39.000 They interchange these sort of things to distract from each other, I'm sure.

01:44:42.000 Now, the media was admitting that somebody got raped there in the royal household, and that was admitted.

01:44:47.000 Then when it came out that Charles was doing it, that disappeared.

01:44:50.000 What's the details of that?

01:44:51.000 Well, it was actually Charles' servant.

01:44:55.000 Apparently one of the porters at Buckingham Palace walked in to find Charles in bed with his servant, basically.

01:45:03.000 And the media couldn't report that it was Charles for a very long time, even though everyone knew it was Charles from day one.

01:45:10.000 And then the media came out and said that the witness to what happened was a drug addict and a drunkard.

01:45:17.000 So every time you take the witness, you either take them out physically or you assassinate the character.

01:45:23.000 But why do we first hear of it as rape between servants, then it turns into Charles, then it disappears?

01:45:30.000 Yeah, I mean, they interchange the things, they change the evidence, and then they focus the media attention on something else, even if it's within the same, you know, sphere.

01:45:40.000 So, we see that tactic over and over again.

01:45:42.000 Let's take some calls.

01:45:44.000 Let's talk to Anne in Ohio, then Paula, Jerry and Ed and others.

01:45:48.000 Anne, go ahead. 1.00

01:45:49.000 Hi, Alex.

01:45:50.000 Yes.

01:45:51.000 Yes.

01:45:51.000 Hey, I'm calling because I'm really upset about this illegal immigration thing that the Bush administration is pushing.

01:45:58.000 And at one point, I had heard a real high poll number stating how the Americans felt that over 70% of the Americans wanted... The Gallup poll showed 80 in the high 80s.

01:46:11.000 My memory's been failing me today.

01:46:12.000 It was 87, 89% when you average Hispanics, whites and blacks and Asians together or against open borders.

01:46:18.000 Yes, well, that was what I was wondering.

01:46:19.000 That was a Gallup poll.

01:46:20.000 They've got Zogbies in the high 70s, high 80s. 1.00

01:46:23.000 There's a bunch of different polls, but on average, even Hispanics when they're polled

01:46:26.000 are in the low 80s, want the borders shut, but then they make it a racial issue of, oh,

01:46:31.000 you're a racist. 0.92

01:46:32.000 No, we don't want our wages dropping. 0.75

01:46:34.000 We don't want to be a third-world country. 1.00

01:46:36.000 We can't take the whole world on us.

01:46:38.000 Go ahead.

01:46:39.000 Yes, well, that was what I was wondering.

01:46:41.000 I wanted to know a reference for that number so that I could, you know, argue with my brother

01:46:47.000 about that.

01:46:48.000 I just type in, majority of Americans want more immigration control into the search engine,

01:46:55.000 and a bunch of polls should pop up.

01:46:57.000 Okay, how about the trial in Fort Worth, Texas that's going on this week?

01:47:01.000 Are you familiar with that?

01:47:03.000 Yeah, Dixon Cannon, Arrow Custom Plastics refused to withhold because it makes him an indentured servant to do the work without being paid to collect taxes.

01:47:10.000 And that trial is going on right now, and John Stettmiller is up there testifying on behalf of Sim Cannon in it.

01:47:18.000 Okay, I just didn't know if you were aware of that.

01:47:20.000 And the other thing I wanted to say is I got the Berkey Light right before Christmas, and we love it, and I got three of your tapes, and I handed them out before Thanksgiving, and I got them back New Year's Eve, and I can only imagine how many times they were copied.

01:47:34.000 So, we're doing our best here in Ohio.

01:47:39.000 God bless you and thanks for that.

01:47:39.000 Awesome.

01:47:41.000 I appreciate you taking action there, Ann.

01:47:44.000 Paul, I mean, how transparent is this?

01:47:46.000 They say we've got to put a magnifying glass down your nose, down your throat.

01:47:49.000 Everything you do is going to be watched.

01:47:51.000 We're going to have all these volunteers watching the surveillance cameras, shouting at you on bullhorns mounted to them if you look suspicious.

01:47:57.000 But we're going to legalize anybody that can get here.

01:48:00.000 Well yeah, we got the article on Prison Planet today from the Washington Times.

01:48:05.000 Bush will propose plan on illegals.

01:48:07.000 President Bush will propose sweeping changes that would allow a portion, and it's basically all of them, of the 8 million illegal aliens in the country to move towards legal status.

01:48:18.000 But I've read the bill.

01:48:19.000 It says if you get here, you're legal for three years, then you go file another form, get another three years.

01:48:25.000 Yeah, and at the same time they're crowing on about how terrorist cells are operating within the country.

01:48:31.000 Well, I mean, this is basically going to legalize them all.

01:48:34.000 Add it to the record budget, the biggest expansion of the federal government we've ever seen.

01:48:41.000 Grown by what, 24% last year?

01:48:43.000 24%, yeah.

01:48:44.000 We've had several articles on that in the past few days.

01:48:48.000 And it's basically tantamount to a socialist agenda which dwarfs anything that Clinton did.

01:48:55.000 We've got all these conservatives worshipping Bush when he's blatantly not following any kind of conservative agenda.

01:49:04.000 It's incredible, Paul.

01:49:05.000 Let's take a call.

01:49:06.000 Let's talk to Paula in Texas. 0.94

01:49:08.000 Go ahead, Paula.

01:49:09.000 Yeah, Alex, I had a couple of things to talk to you about.

01:49:12.000 The first one is my husband.

01:49:15.000 He works over here in Houston.

01:49:18.000 And a man that he works with, his brother, works for Ford.

01:49:22.000 And he said that he went into a meeting with the high-ups at the Ford and they had made a 10-cylinder engine that could get 30 miles to the gallon.

01:49:31.000 Well, when they submitted it, the government said, no, we don't want it.

01:49:35.000 We don't want something that will get that many miles per gallon.

01:49:38.000 They just gave a tax exemption where if you buy a 6,000 pound SUV, it's a total tax exemption.

01:49:45.000 I have no problem cutting any tax, and I like SUVs.

01:49:48.000 I drive a Tahoe.

01:49:49.000 But my point is, is that yeah, folks, my wife's got a Volkswagen that's four-cylinder, and I don't want to say I've had it up to 130 miles an hour.

01:49:57.000 I wouldn't drive like that.

01:49:59.000 But the point is, is they got new technologies, which they put in this car.

01:50:03.000 This little Passat she's got, It's a four-cylinder, folks, and the speedometer goes to 160, and I have no doubt it goes that fast.

01:50:10.000 And the thing, it's incredible gas mileage.

01:50:12.000 A little four-cylinder turbo.

01:50:14.000 Yes, they've got six cylinders that'll pull more than a modern ten-cylinder.

01:50:20.000 So I have no doubt that's there.

01:50:22.000 You should have your husband call me. 0.82

01:50:23.000 Okay.

01:50:24.000 Actually, he just walked out of the other room, but also, my husband and I, we go on to a program on computer called PalTalk, and it's an audio chat room.

01:50:35.000 And he opened his own room about three nights ago, and we've been playing the audio of your movies in the chat room.

01:50:42.000 Tell you what, stay there, because I want to get Paul Watson to comment on advanced technologies being suppressed, so we keep using more oil, and get some other callers.

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01:53:50.000 Alright folks, Paul Watson is going to be staying with us for about five minutes in

01:54:00.000 the next hour. Then I've got this doctor coming on the show, Dr. John F. Kilner. He's going

01:54:07.000 to be talking about cloning and how, well, they're just changing the names around again

01:54:11.000 and calling it stem cell research when it's the industrialized cloning of embryos for

01:54:16.000 use by the medical field and others.

01:54:20.000 We've got loaded phones here and we'll go to calls during Kilner and you can bring up any subject you want.

01:54:25.000 It'll all end up coming back to the same thing, the New World Order. 0.73

01:54:28.000 But I want to try to finish up with Paula and Jerry and Ed and I guess Wayne and Adam and just a bunch of other people, Warren and others that are patiently holding.

01:54:40.000 Paula, you were saying your husband works for Ford.

01:54:43.000 Sounds like in a management position down in Houston and they're saying that They got a 10-cylinder engine, he's in the meeting, that gets better gas mileage than a, sounds like a 6-cylinder, and they're not going to let that come out on the market?

01:54:58.000 No, it's not my husband, it's a man that he works with, his brother.

01:55:01.000 Okay, well I was confused by what you said.

01:55:03.000 Yeah, they said no, they didn't want it out because it takes away from their tax money.

01:55:08.000 So, they didn't want something that gets that good of gas mileage in a big car like that.

01:55:12.000 They like the gas doublers. 0.99

01:55:14.000 But, my husband and I opened a room on a program called PalTalk, And we've been airing your videos through audio over these rooms.

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01:55:28.000 This is the fourth day.

01:55:29.000 We opened it in the Christianity section.

01:55:32.000 Because we want the Christians to start realizing what's going on and what they're being taught is not exactly what they think. 0.60

01:55:38.000 And what happened?

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01:55:41.000 They moved it from the Christianity section to the Social Issues section.

01:55:45.000 But when they moved it, we had 57 people in our room.

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01:55:55.000 We were number one on the Christianity section for two hours.

01:55:59.000 We'll see.

01:56:00.000 I mean, this show is routinely number one on Shotcast out of 3,000.

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01:56:18.000 I mean, they're a success right there, but they do everything they can so folks can hear this show.

01:56:22.000 Thanks for the call.

01:56:23.000 Paul Watson comments to what she was just saying about, I mean, that's a great example of taking action.

01:56:27.000 Imagine if everybody like her went out and did that. 0.98

01:56:30.000 That's wonderful.

01:56:31.000 Well yeah, but what you can do as well is put Alex's videos on Kazaa so people can download them from that, because that's got tens of millions of users.

01:56:40.000 But regards to the fuel situation that she was talking about, I've got a book which carries a popular science article from 1922 which talks about the invention of a 300 miles on a gallon of oil.

01:56:57.000 Now, I don't know what that is now, because I don't drive, but at the time it was 10 times the mileage possible for the present-day motor engine in 1922.

01:57:07.000 So, just imagine what they've got now.

01:57:08.000 I mean, it's this dichotomy, this lie, this public facade of technology basically going backwards.

01:57:15.000 I mean, we had the Wright Brothers in 1903, 60 years later, the moon landing, and now China's talking about You know, maybe, possibly, they'll send a probe to the moon in 2020.

01:57:28.000 So it appears, at least on the superficial level, that technology is going backwards again.

01:57:34.000 Whereas these devices are being invented and basically kept suppressed because it challenges the monopoly.

01:57:41.000 So that's what we've got going on there.

01:57:43.000 Absolutely.

01:57:45.000 That's a really great point, Paul.

01:57:46.000 Let's talk to Jerry in Florida.

01:57:49.000 Go ahead, Jerry.

01:57:51.000 Yes.

01:57:52.000 All right.

01:57:52.000 Actually, hi Alex.

01:57:54.000 Hello.

01:57:55.000 I'm actually in Idaho, and I'd like to wish you and all your listeners a safe and free, particularly free, New Year.

01:58:02.000 And I've got your videos, and I've been listening to you for over a number of years, and I really like what you're doing.

01:58:07.000 I think you're doing God's work without a doubt.

01:58:10.000 And I'd like to comment a little bit about what we all see, a lot of your listeners and a lot of your guests.

01:58:15.000 I'll tell you what, let me put you on hold and we'll let you go with us into the third hour, Jerry, in Idaho.

01:58:21.000 And you can tell us what you think.

01:58:23.000 You know, what we all see, where it's all going.

01:58:26.000 And then we'll try to get to Ed in there and then Warren and Adam and Simon and others are probably going to have to hold into the interview with the doctor about cloning.

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02:00:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:08.000 All right, folks.

02:00:08.000 As usual, this will be a jam-packed third hour of global transmission.

02:00:14.000 We've got Dr. John F. Kilner coming on the show to talk about, well, mass production of clones.

02:00:20.000 Bet you didn't know that was going on.

02:00:22.000 New Jersey moving to let them start cloning embryos and using them in an industrial capacity.

02:00:27.000 And, of course, we'll get to all your calls and a ton of other news.

02:00:30.000 We're talking to Paul Watson.

02:00:31.000 The webmaster for my website, PrisonPlanet.com.

02:00:34.000 Let's go back to the calls, try to get as many in as possible.

02:00:37.000 Let us talk to Jerry in Idaho, let him finish up.

02:00:41.000 You were making some comments, Jerry, go ahead.

02:00:44.000 Yes, sir, Alex.

02:00:45.000 I would like to comment on what we see.

02:00:47.000 What we see is a manifestation of an organization.

02:00:50.000 The New World Order, I think people have a general concept that this is out there, it's not a tangible thing, there's no real steering hand behind this, and yet When you really analyze it, you can see that there is a steering hand.

02:01:02.000 It's involved with politics.

02:01:03.000 It's involved with finance.

02:01:05.000 It's involved with our schools in America.

02:01:08.000 It's involved with my religion, which is the Catholic religion.

02:01:11.000 And I know you've had some people on, and you have some listeners that are very anti-Catholic.

02:01:16.000 There's a facet in my church, the Catholic Church, which is steering my church as well, and has been for a long time.

02:01:21.000 Well, I'm not anti-Catholic, I'm not anti-Protestant, I'm not anti-Jew, I'm not anti-anything.

02:01:25.000 I know that.

02:01:26.000 I'm against corrupt people controlling different groups.

02:01:29.000 Well, the group that is controlling this uses the motto of the gentleman who wrote the book Order Out of Chaos, or Ordo.

02:01:38.000 Oh, yeah, the Illuminati.

02:01:39.000 Well, Illuminati is a branch, actually, of this group.

02:01:43.000 The group is Freemasonry.

02:01:45.000 Yeah, but again, Freemasonry is the same way. 1.00

02:01:47.000 Most of them are useful idiots at the bottom. 1.00

02:01:49.000 Absolutely. 1.00

02:01:50.000 The first three degrees of Blue Lodge, you get to the 30th degree, 31st, 32nd, 33rd, then you realize... Well, you can't even hardly get a job now in England if you're not a Mason.

02:01:59.000 You can't get convicted of a crime if you're a Mason.

02:02:02.000 It's big news in England.

02:02:03.000 It's kind of broken out in England.

02:02:05.000 What goes on here is now mainstream there in the news.

02:02:07.000 Paul, talk about it.

02:02:09.000 Well, yeah, as you said, every time you raise the subject of Freemasonry, all the lower-level Masons come out and say, well, how is this being kept hidden from me?

02:02:18.000 But it's the upper echelons.

02:02:19.000 In this country, you cannot get a job as a judge if you are not a member of the Freemasons.

02:02:26.000 That's a minute!

02:02:28.000 Yeah, Grand Lodge in England, and Grand Orient is the Communist branch, which is actually out of France.

02:02:32.000 I think what we're seeing on a global scale, and this has occurred for hundreds and hundreds of years now, Is that it's a conflict between French Grand Orient Freemasonry, which is the Communist end, and the Grand Lodge in Britain, which is the Geist end, or the Merovingian.

02:02:45.000 You know about the Merovingian?

02:02:47.000 Yeah, and you know, that's kind of what Mel Gibson says in Conspiracy Theory, where they're talking about who runs the New World Order on the bush.

02:02:52.000 But even at the higher levels, they're on the same team.

02:02:55.000 They're all on the same goal, which is a One World Order, a One World Currency, forsaking complete forsakement of civil rights or state sovereignty, individual sovereignty.

02:02:55.000 Absolutely.

02:03:06.000 And they're pushing us all in that direction constantly.

02:03:08.000 They say the soldier dies, but the battle continues.

02:03:11.000 There's an interesting book.

02:03:12.000 Have you heard of the writer John Daniel?

02:03:15.000 No, I haven't.

02:03:16.000 He wrote a series of three books in 1994 called Scarlet and the Beast.

02:03:22.000 They're out of print.

02:03:22.000 They're very difficult to obtain.

02:03:23.000 He has a website.

02:03:24.000 Can I plug it?

02:03:25.000 Oh, I actually have the Scarlet and the Beast book.

02:03:28.000 I never read it.

02:03:29.000 Yeah, what's the website?

02:03:30.000 It's ScarletOnTheBeast.com.

02:03:32.000 Okay, listen, I've got to let you go.

02:03:34.000 Just one more website for your listeners.

02:03:36.000 I have no affiliation with John Daniel.

02:03:37.000 I know, sir, but we're up against a break.

02:03:39.000 Sure, go ahead.

02:03:40.000 It's FreemasonryWatch.org.

02:03:45.000 Okay, thank you.

02:03:45.000 Thank you.

02:03:46.000 I really appreciate it.

02:03:47.000 You can call me back another day.

02:03:48.000 We don't have a bunch of guests on.

02:03:49.000 We can give the callers longer.

02:03:51.000 Tom, I want to try to get one more in now.

02:03:53.000 We can't do that.

02:03:54.000 Paul Watson, I want to thank you for coming on the show in the last 45 seconds.

02:03:58.000 Anything else you want to add?

02:04:00.000 Well, yeah, basically, the sides are basically polarizing.

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02:04:18.000 People's rational minds have been so fried by television that their only recourse is to openly worship the tyranny.

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02:04:33.000 So we've got this polarization where either you're awake or you're completely asleep.

02:04:38.000 We'll see you back here live next week.

02:04:38.000 Great points.

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02:07:56.000 Our guest is the President For the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity, John F. Kilner, PhD, is President of the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity in Bannockburn, Illinois, and Franklin Foreman Chair of Ethics at Trinity International University in Deerfield, Illinois, author of numerous articles in medical, public health, legal, religious, and ethics journals.

02:08:20.000 He has written or edited 12 books, Does God Need Our Help?, cloning, assisted suicide, and other challenges in bioethics,

02:08:28.000 cutting edge bioethics, a Christian exploration of technologies and trends, and many other books.

02:08:34.000 We have a link to their great website, cdhd.org.

02:08:39.000 And before joining the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity, Dr. Kellner was senior associate at the Park Ridge Center

02:08:46.000 for the Study of Health, Faith, and Ethics, and an adjunct faculty member of the Northwestern

02:08:50.000 University Medical School, both in Chicago.

02:08:53.000 Prior to his move to the Chicago area, he was an associate professor for social and medical ethics

02:08:57.000 at Asbury Theological Seminary.

02:09:00.000 He directed the ethics and grand programs at the University of Kentucky Medical Center, taught medical ethics as an adjunct professor at the University of Kentucky, and served as a hospital ethics person for the St.

02:09:12.000 Joseph Hospital Lexington, Kentucky.

02:09:15.000 After completing a BA degree at Yale University, he earned another degree from From Harvard, he also has an A.M.

02:09:25.000 Ph.D.

02:09:26.000 with distinction in religious ethics as an emphasis in bioethics from Harvard University.

02:09:31.000 There he received the Newcomb, Danforth, Eisenhower, Dekarma, goes on and on.

02:09:37.000 Folks, he is an expert on bioethics.

02:09:39.000 And why does this affect you?

02:09:41.000 Why does this matter to you?

02:09:43.000 Well, we've had Wesley Smith from the Wall Street Journal on.

02:09:47.000 Listing the names of people who are begging for water and food, who are paralyzed, neck down, being killed.

02:09:53.000 Okay?

02:09:54.000 They call that a vegetable.

02:09:57.000 Please help me, give me water.

02:09:58.000 Or the Terri Schiavo case.

02:09:59.000 She's not in a coma, but they're going to kill her anyways. 1.00

02:10:03.000 We've got all this happening, but what does it mean to have the clones?

02:10:07.000 And now the industrialization of embryos, and now he was just telling me during the break, when we first got him on, about Discussions of doing this through birth.

02:10:17.000 That sounds crazy, but everything's crazy nowadays.

02:10:21.000 Doctor, thank you so much for coming on the show.

02:10:23.000 It's great to be with you.

02:10:25.000 For the layperson out there who never really thought about cloning, or it's still some kind of science fiction thing in the back of their mind, go over bioethics, what we're facing, and how this ties into cloning.

02:10:38.000 Absolutely.

02:10:38.000 Well, right now we're learning so much about how human cells and human bodies work and as a result of that

02:10:46.000 uh... we're learning about uh... certain special kinds of cells uh... called stem

02:10:50.000 cells that can be very uh... very productive and effective in

02:10:55.000 developing new treatments

02:10:57.000 and we're learning about how to uh... duplicate cells copy cells produce

02:11:02.000 you know people are familiar with dolly the sheep you know that we call on the

02:11:05.000 sheep and we've done this with many other kinds of animals and the technology appears to be a

02:11:12.000 technology that should work in human beings now people have already

02:11:19.000 been cloned a lot of people don't realize this

02:11:21.000 in the early cell stages now those developed only

02:11:25.000 partway through the embryonic stage and then they died so we haven't had

02:11:31.000 born human clones but we've been able to

02:11:34.000 produce clones that have just developed to a certain point.

02:11:38.000 Now, did they die or were they killed?

02:11:41.000 Because I had read that they terminate the embryos at a certain level.

02:11:45.000 Right, yeah.

02:11:46.000 Well, the research plan that they developed required them to kill them before they reached the point at which they could be implanted.

02:11:55.000 In a woman's womb. 1.00

02:11:58.000 But in this case, they just technologically didn't develop even that far.

02:12:03.000 And so we really haven't demonstrated that we could do anything like give birth to a clone yet.

02:12:09.000 But because we've been able to start the process and because we can do it in animals, there's no reason scientifically to really think that it can't happen.

02:12:17.000 So that's why the law now and public policy and public debates are starting to say, well, It sounds pretty feasible.

02:12:25.000 We better start talking about the ethics of this.

02:12:28.000 What's OK and what's not OK?

02:12:31.000 So that's where we're at right now.

02:12:32.000 And so what was in the news just recently was this law passed in New Jersey, you know, where they said, sure, we're going to allow cloning and we're going to allow the clone to develop through the embryonic stage, through the fetal stage, all the way to birth.

02:12:50.000 And the law amazingly says, and even through the newborn stage, and we're not going to put any restrictions on this in place and saying it's illegal to do this.

02:13:00.000 Well for those that we just, I mean we can't just blaze over that incredible statement you just made and I've got the news articles here where it states what you just said.

02:13:10.000 We're talking now About allowing them to bring a clone to term, and then after that, in the development for medical parts.

02:13:18.000 So I guess it's going to be like a Frank Herbert book, where you've got these tanks with these humanoids growing in it. 0.99

02:13:23.000 I mean, I'm not saying that's what they're doing, but you just said they legalized that.

02:13:27.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:13:28.000 It's very explicit.

02:13:29.000 They say that you can produce, through cloning, these human beings.

02:13:34.000 You can let them develop as embryos.

02:13:36.000 You can develop all the way through the fetal stage. 0.99

02:13:37.000 So women can be carrying Uh, these clones and then it says that you can, uh, uh, kill them, abort them, take their parts. 0.99

02:13:48.000 And it says, although it puts in place saying, well, you can't actually make big profits off this. 0.82

02:13:55.000 Oh, what it says you can do is get reasonable payment for doing this.

02:14:01.000 And it includes all the costs of storage, transplantation, implantation, All sorts of things, but there's no fixed rate.

02:14:09.000 But what is this?

02:14:10.000 I mean, I've got an Associated Press article here where it has that quote you just gave from the law.

02:14:15.000 They're saying that they can bring it past birth?

02:14:17.000 What on earth does that mean?

02:14:19.000 That's a really good question, because it says they not only can bring it through the fetal stage, that would by definition be all the way up to birth, but also through the newborn stage.

02:14:30.000 Now what does that mean?

02:14:32.000 I mean, if language means anything, a stage is a period of time That's saying you can do this for a period of time, even after birth.

02:14:43.000 And what should give us real pause here, this is in New Jersey, that's the home of Princeton University, and their most well-known bioethics person, Peter Singer, is advocating that we should be able to kill newborn babies If they don't measure up... Well, not just newborns.

02:15:02.000 I've seen him say 18 months to 2 years.

02:15:04.000 Well, yeah, exactly.

02:15:05.000 It goes beyond that.

02:15:07.000 Well, I mean, that's reasonable. 0.98

02:15:09.000 What's wrong with killing newborn babies? 0.97

02:15:11.000 It's no big deal. 0.97

02:15:13.000 Let's go ahead and take the clone out and put it in a tank and grow it up bigger and add You know, buds of other organs and grow those off the clones.

02:15:22.000 You know, I've read in the BBC where this is being proposed, they could grow humanoids larger in utero in cows and get more parts.

02:15:30.000 Hey, what's the big deal?

02:15:31.000 Maybe we can, you know, in the age of feeding irradiated beef to school children, let's just go light years past that.

02:15:36.000 Maybe we'll put humans on the store shelf.

02:15:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:15:40.000 What this notion of even going past the newborn stage, what this should, the red flag this should raise for us.

02:15:46.000 Is that this isn't about any reasonable definitions of when you have a human being or not.

02:15:52.000 What this is really about is saying in the interest of doing whatever we want to do scientifically and economically, we're going to potentially run roughshod over any protections for Particularly the weakest and most vulnerable human being.

02:16:11.000 There has to be a wake-up call for us.

02:16:13.000 Well, Dr. Kellner, I mean, I could yell, I could scream, I could pull my hair out, I could say a bunch of horrible words here, and that wouldn't be abnormal.

02:16:21.000 I don't know if listeners realize that they're saying, we're going to clone right through to birth and after.

02:16:27.000 That means they're going to do weird experiments.

02:16:29.000 And these people aren't going to have any rights.

02:16:31.000 They just decided they're not human beings. 1.00

02:16:33.000 They don't have a soul, and we're going to kill them if we feel like it. 1.00

02:16:36.000 I mean, this is like the worst science fiction movie I could imagine. 1.00

02:16:40.000 Absolutely.

02:16:41.000 And, you know, it's bad enough when it's in the womb. 0.96

02:16:47.000 But when people think of abortion, usually they just think of, oh, you know, very difficult and rough cases.

02:16:52.000 What we're talking about here is actually women being contracted to uh... tip for there to be lab experiments to clone these 1.00

02:17:01.000 embryos than with them women contracting to carry 1.00

02:17:05.000 these fetuses in the womb bbp these young at the human being 0.74

02:17:10.000 are being intentionally created in order to be met dismembered and the parts then used for

02:17:15.000 experimentation and so when david rockefeller bill gates and i'm saying is

02:17:19.000 hypothetically uh... you know it's reasonable for their endowment

02:17:22.000 You know, it costs five million dollars.

02:17:24.000 Well, you can pay seven and he gets his own little clone grown and quietly gets his new replacement organs and new DNA treatments and it's just real, you know.

02:17:33.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:17:36.000 And I'll tell you, doctor, this is all going to be legalized.

02:17:38.000 It's all going to be done because the elite wants it.

02:17:42.000 So how do we stop it?

02:17:43.000 What do we do?

02:17:43.000 How do we get the average ball game fan who doesn't even know what the Bill of Rights is to care about this?

02:17:48.000 Right, exactly.

02:17:50.000 Yeah, I think that public awareness of the big issues involved here are absolutely key, because I think when it gets to the level of like this New Jersey bill, it's presented to the legislature there as, you know, are you for or against scientific progress?

02:18:09.000 Well, I mean, that's silly.

02:18:10.000 You know, it's created here as a stereotype of either you're for economic well-being and scientific progress, Or you're against it?

02:18:19.000 Well, that's not what this is about.

02:18:20.000 Well, that'd be like Joseph Mingelis saying, hey, so I'm sewing two Jewish children together. 0.91

02:18:27.000 What are you complaining about?

02:18:28.000 Are you against progress?

02:18:29.000 And the problem here is that there are some very exciting developments taking place in the whole biotech medical arena.

02:18:29.000 Right, exactly.

02:18:38.000 For example, as I was mentioning before, stem cell research, for which cloning is, you know, they want to use it because then you can tailor stem cells to genetically match Well, stem cell research is not an all-or-nothing sort of thing.

02:18:54.000 In much of what's going on in biotech research, you can achieve many, if not all, of the wonderful benefits that are out there, but you can either do it by cutting corners ethically and creating tremendous risks to human beings and society in the process, or you can do it in an ethical way.

02:19:12.000 That's what we have to be standing up for.

02:19:14.000 Well, Doctor, I've read they can just suck Your own fat out of you, and it turns out, on average, to be better than baby parts. 0.99

02:19:21.000 Well, exactly.

02:19:23.000 And the counterpart to that in terms of stem cell research is that all of our bodies have supplies of stem cells in them.

02:19:31.000 And we can either get stem cells from already developed human bodies and get them just like, you know, blood donations, or we can take human embryos and cut them up into their pieces.

02:19:42.000 Stay there, Doctor.

02:19:43.000 We'll be right back.

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02:23:50.000 Alright folks, coming up in the next segment I'll get to all these callers that have been holding and a bunch of

02:23:56.000 other news we haven't covered yet.

02:23:57.000 But right now we're talking to John F. Kilner, doctor, PhD, and we've got hyperlinks to all the news stories, Associated

02:24:05.000 Press, you name it.

02:24:06.000 Where they just calmly announce, oh there's a new cloning law in New Jersey passed.

02:24:10.000 Well, it says that they can, you know, have somebody grow a clone up to birth, and then after that, do things with it.

02:24:18.000 So it's saying that they don't have any rights, that it's not a human, that they can... I mean, this is... I can't believe this, Doctor.

02:24:25.000 It's amazing how fast this has advanced, actually, even just in the course of the last three or four years.

02:24:34.000 It's something that I think most people really don't realize.

02:24:39.000 I mean, it is absolutely essential that people get informed On what's happening, because I think for many people's mind, this is just science fiction.

02:24:48.000 You know, this is just way out there somewhere, rather than something that we're actually making decisions on now as to what we're going to allow and what we're not going to allow.

02:24:58.000 Well, I think the term is sleep at the wheel.

02:25:00.000 I mean, I'm mad at the American people because, I mean, I'm not that smart and I know what's going on.

02:25:06.000 They had a major study of 339 universities and What was it, 65% of the administrators and students didn't know what the First Amendment was?

02:25:16.000 I mean, I'm scared here, because this is amazing.

02:25:22.000 I mean, we're going to take our very humanity and allow them to grow humans like tomatoes and then do whatever they want with them?

02:25:28.000 Right, exactly.

02:25:29.000 Exactly.

02:25:32.000 It's just amazing.

02:25:33.000 I mean, the significance of what we're talking about.

02:25:36.000 I mean, certainly there are a lot of issues that are out there that are important, but I think certain issues rise to the top.

02:25:42.000 In a certain period of time in history, because you're making decisions that are going to chart the course that are going to affect the human race all the way indefinitely into the future.

02:25:52.000 And these bioethical questions are right there, right now.

02:25:57.000 I mean, it's going to be in the next few years that the course that we take on all of these issues that we're talking about right now, and there are many... I mean, right behind this wave of biotech issues is a whole nother That's why we are working around the clock, full time here at the Center for Bioethics and Human Dignity.

02:26:22.000 One of our biggest efforts right now is to get this information out on our CBHD.org website, to get the information out.

02:26:33.000 Just to give you a sense of The visibility, I mean, when you do a search, an internet search on Google or Yahoo or whatever, there's like a million sites that come up related to bioethics.

02:26:44.000 But the cbhd.org site comes up on the first screen every time, and it's because we put a ton of information on there.

02:26:53.000 But that's where the battle is right now.

02:26:54.000 People have to get informed.

02:26:56.000 It's not that the information's not there.

02:26:58.000 We have to recognize that this is not science fiction.

02:27:00.000 It's not out there in the field.

02:27:01.000 Well, Doctor, they should have you address the Governor's Conference two years ago instead of Peter Singer. 0.98

02:27:06.000 I mean, Peter Singer needs to be in a loony bin, but his ideas, and the ideas of Princeton that brought him there, of let's just kill babies after they're born. 0.99

02:27:16.000 I mean, that seems to be what the establishment really wants, regardless of the ignorant public. 0.98

02:27:21.000 When you ask them about this, it's obviously against what they're doing, but still sees it as some type of science fiction.

02:27:27.000 I want to briefly go back over this new law, because that's so important.

02:27:31.000 Restate that for folks.

02:27:32.000 They're saying that they're not just going to clone humans, but that they're going to continue on with stuff after they're born.

02:27:38.000 Well, the New Jersey law says you can produce clones at the egg and embryo stage, and then They can continue to develop. 0.94

02:27:48.000 What they're doing is saying, okay, how long can they continue to develop and we can just kill them, cut them up, use them for body pieces before there's any problem with that?

02:27:57.000 And it says, well, that can continue on through the embryo stage, through the fetus stage, which goes all the way up till birth, and through the newborn stage. 0.91

02:28:07.000 Now what does that mean?

02:28:09.000 Through the newborn stage?

02:28:11.000 Well it's obvious and you talk about stem cells and I get it from fat tissue and how I've seen the studies it even works better in many cases.

02:28:19.000 They want to use wombs. 1.00

02:28:21.000 They want to create clones.

02:28:22.000 I read the studies.

02:28:23.000 They want to create larger artificial wombs out of fetuses and babies. 0.94

02:28:30.000 And they want to create these big clusters where they can grow a hundred livers on one clone.

02:28:35.000 They want to industrialize this. 0.95

02:28:37.000 This is totally sick!

02:28:38.000 Yeah, it really is commercializing human beings, commercializing the human body.

02:28:45.000 That's just a direction that we should never go.

02:28:47.000 I mean, there's property, there's things that are subject to buying and selling, and then there are certain things, human beings, that have a dignity unto themselves.

02:28:58.000 Well, that's it!

02:28:58.000 How could you work at one of these places with human beings around you in tanks?

02:29:03.000 Right, exactly.

02:29:03.000 Right.

02:29:04.000 I mean, it's just we're losing the distinction.

02:29:07.000 Between people.

02:29:10.000 I think the term is we're going to hell in a handbasket.

02:29:13.000 CBHD.org CBHD.org, link through at Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.

02:29:21.000 Sir, I sure hope folks will go read your writing and your organization's writings and I just want to thank you for coming on.

02:29:27.000 Happy to be with you.

02:29:28.000 I'm going to let you go, but when we get back I'm going to plug your book, okay?

02:29:33.000 Thanks for coming on, Doctor.

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02:32:53.000 I was kind of ranting over the doctor there at the end, trying to end that segment, and

02:32:58.000 I appreciate Dr. John F. Kilner coming on.

02:33:01.000 You know, I read those news articles last few days, mainstream news out of New Jersey.

02:33:05.000 It was, oh, there's a debate about it.

02:33:08.000 Some of the religious right doesn't like it, so it lets you grow the clone up and give birth to it, or grow it in a tank and then use it for body parts or keep it alive.

02:33:17.000 I mean, what's the big deal?

02:33:21.000 It's like you tell people that Dimecore got caught kidnapping 200,000 women and children.

02:33:25.000 They just go, huh, what's that?

02:33:25.000 That's admitted!

02:33:29.000 You hear about Kobe Bryant?

02:33:30.000 That's really important.

02:33:33.000 Do you realize how evil this is?

02:33:35.000 Do you realize how out of control things are?

02:33:37.000 It is probably the end of the world.

02:33:41.000 I cannot imagine. 1.00

02:33:42.000 We have turned into just evil scum. 1.00

02:33:45.000 Lazy, stupid morons. 1.00

02:33:48.000 But what about the large portion of us that are good, decent, half-decent? 1.00

02:33:53.000 I'm not perfect.

02:33:54.000 People who just... My humanity, my soul screams when I... Look at this!

02:34:00.000 I'm sick of evil! 0.67

02:34:01.000 I'm tired of you old people getting away with what they do! 1.00

02:34:03.000 I'm about to go to Warren and Joe and Carl and everybody, I promise, in just a few minutes.

02:34:09.000 I do want to plug Dr. John F. Kilner's books.

02:34:13.000 One of them is, uh, Does God Need Our Help?

02:34:15.000 Cloning, Assisted Suicide, and other Challenges in bioethics, cutting-edge bioethics, the Christian exploration of technologies and trends, who lives, who dies, ethical criteria and patient selection.

02:34:27.000 This is some highbrow stuff and he's a really smart guy and a good guy and a Christian and I hope you'll support the CBHD.org.

02:34:37.000 Also, you know, while we're sorting out the problems at my little studio in South Austin, I've been doing my show here at John Stattmiller's studio and I'm very I'm thankful for that.

02:34:46.000 They didn't ask me to do this, but I want to plug it.

02:34:48.000 They got some of the best shortwave radios, Sangean radios, cheaper than you'll find them at Radio Shack.

02:34:55.000 I bought two shortwave radios from John.

02:34:58.000 He buys them in bulk and sells them cheaper than anybody I've found, high quality.

02:35:01.000 I bought two from him.

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02:35:07.000 They got great shortwave radios.

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02:36:23.000 Why do you think it is that you hear that fresh air will kill bacteria?

02:36:26.000 Why do we get more colds and flus during the winter?

02:36:29.000 Because we're inside more.

02:36:31.000 We have the doors shut.

02:36:33.000 Why do you think a piece of steel out in a field will rust and rot?

02:36:37.000 from the oxygen.

02:36:38.000 It's powerful.

02:36:38.000 It's corrosive to microorganisms, folks.

02:36:43.000 Well, why do you think, then, that piece of steel won't rust in 50 years in your house?

02:36:48.000 Because there's not air, oxygen, running across it.

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02:36:53.000 Okay?

02:36:54.000 And I have one of these in my house I got from John.

02:36:56.000 You need to have one.

02:36:57.000 There's one running right here in the room with me.

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02:37:21.000 It is so, so incredibly important that folks call here to the office.

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02:37:33.000 I would ask Sandra.

02:37:34.000 Sandra, what number is best for me to give out?

02:37:37.000 Because I always use the local number here to call you guys.

02:37:40.000 I know there's the 877-605-9200 number, and that's the number for the Aeronizer or the shortwave radios.

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02:38:27.000 Okay, let's go to the calls.

02:38:29.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to Warren in Colorado.

02:38:33.000 Warren, you get the prize for holding.

02:38:35.000 Thank you.

02:38:35.000 Go ahead.

02:38:36.000 Okay, thanks.

02:38:38.000 I'd like to make a quick comment or a point on the 450 calves that are being eliminated in Washington, I guess it is.

02:38:45.000 Sure.

02:38:47.000 The article I read was that it's actually the bull calves, the 450 bull calves that were being eliminated.

02:38:55.000 And that doesn't make sense at all because it's the heifer calves, it's the dairy Dairy farmers save and bring up to replace their old cows.

02:39:04.000 Well, I have an AP article here.

02:39:05.000 Let me read it.

02:39:06.000 USDA to kill 450 calves in Mad Cow Scare.

02:39:10.000 U.S.

02:39:11.000 agriculture officials have decided to kill 450 calves in the Washington state herd.

02:39:15.000 That includes the offspring of the cow diagnosed with mad cow disease.

02:39:19.000 And it says also, DeHaven said USDA officials would visit Mexico to discuss that country's ban on American beef products.

02:39:25.000 Mexico was among more than 30 countries which halted U.S.

02:39:28.000 beef imports last month after scientists diagnosed the first case of mad cow disease in the U.S.

02:39:33.000 And it says the herd that is to be destroyed is one of three under quarantine in Washington because of ties to the infected cow, a six-and-a-half-year-old Holstein dairy animal.

02:39:41.000 That's the black and white cows.

02:39:43.000 The other herds include cows that have calves from the same Alberta farm as the sick one.

02:39:50.000 So it doesn't say here if it's male or female calves.

02:39:54.000 It just says it's the herd.

02:39:56.000 Yeah, on the Dish Network, we get the Reuters News, and it actually said bull calves, and I think I might call and see.

02:40:01.000 Well, that makes absolutely no sense. 0.99

02:40:03.000 If you're going to kill a herd, you kill all of them. 1.00

02:40:05.000 Yeah, that's exactly right. 0.99

02:40:06.000 I couldn't believe that I read just bull calves.

02:40:06.000 That's the point.

02:40:10.000 But there's a Montana cattle slaughterhouse that they slaughter 30 cattle a month, and they supply it to local restaurants and so on.

02:40:22.000 And this guy got railroaded out by the USDA.

02:40:25.000 Because he couldn't handle all the demand for his slaughterhouse.

02:40:29.000 Yeah, what happens is they target the small beef or poultry or pork producer that's doing a good job.

02:40:35.000 The regulators harass, and I have friends that are involved in environmental groups, the good ones that go out and look at these places.

02:40:41.000 They want you to come and look.

02:40:43.000 These organic farms are so much cleaner, so much better, and they get harassed.

02:40:48.000 You've got the nail on the head, and I'll try to dig up that article on January 4th in the Denver Post.

02:40:53.000 Some gal did a real good job of reporting. 1.00

02:40:55.000 1,500 violations and a plant down the street got shut down for two buddy

02:40:59.000 So you're making a great point You've got the nail on the head and I'll try to dig up that

02:41:04.000 article on January 4th in the Denver Post Some gal did a real good job of reporting. So they went 1.00

02:41:09.000 after a good beef producer. Absolutely Oh.

02:41:13.000 But they're going to feed irradiated, literally, rotten meat to your children. 0.99

02:41:17.000 They're going to irradiate it.

02:41:18.000 And don't worry.

02:41:19.000 Oh yeah, what about the toxins from the bacteria, folks?

02:41:22.000 They're going to feed your children irradiated food. 1.00

02:41:24.000 Yeah, this ConAgra here in Colorado is unbelievable.

02:41:28.000 They've recently switched to Swift Foods.

02:41:32.000 You know, I studied business ethics, and I think it was a waste of time, you know, compared to what your guest did, bioethics.

02:41:39.000 Yeah, what do you think about them?

02:41:40.000 They're going to grow the clones up to full size, take them out of the womb, and then hook them up to stuff and grow a bunch of things on them.

02:41:46.000 How's that?

02:41:46.000 That sounds real nice.

02:41:48.000 Well, it's, you know, there's no soul there.

02:41:50.000 There's no, there's no, you know, it sounds nice, but Believe me, they're probably going to do it for other reasons.

02:41:57.000 It sounds nice!

02:41:58.000 We're going to clone humans and then use them for parts?

02:42:01.000 Yeah.

02:42:02.000 Thanks for the call.

02:42:03.000 Okay.

02:42:03.000 This is amazing.

02:42:04.000 Let's talk to Joe in New York.

02:42:06.000 Joe and then Carl.

02:42:07.000 Go ahead, Joe.

02:42:10.000 Joe, go ahead.

02:42:12.000 Do we have Joe there?

02:42:13.000 Can you hear me?

02:42:14.000 All right, very good.

02:42:14.000 Yes, sir.

02:42:16.000 Are you aware that there was some U.S.

02:42:18.000 fighter jets following a commercial airline Just recently?

02:42:22.000 Yes, I was actually checking that online and there have been over a dozen, about 13 different cases of them claiming terrorists were on planes.

02:42:31.000 No, no, no, Alex.

02:42:32.000 I know right now.

02:42:33.000 I know.

02:42:33.000 What I'm saying is that these have all been fake alerts in the past.

02:42:37.000 Okay, yeah, but they were saying that there was a possible terrorist suspect on a plane coming from France, that there was two fighter jets following the plane and it was going to land in Ohio.

02:42:51.000 Then MSNBC retracted the information and they said something like, uh, the woman was taken off the plane before it took off.

02:42:58.000 She had, like, a leather jacket.

02:42:59.000 It was a motorcycle jacket with wires in it.

02:43:02.000 Listen to this, Alex.

02:43:03.000 They said it was a motorcycle jacket that you can plug into, like, your motorcycle to warm yourself while you're riding.

02:43:11.000 In other words, they took her off the plane because she had, like, wires in her leather jacket that was, I guess, it was almost like one of those, like, electric blankets.

02:43:19.000 But it was a leather riding jacket.

02:43:21.000 So she was pulled off the plane.

02:43:24.000 They retracted the whole story that there was a suspect on there.

02:43:27.000 And then guess what?

02:43:27.000 She was off the plane.

02:43:28.000 They put her on another flight to go somewhere. 0.95

02:43:30.000 But that's what I was saying to you up front is they'll put a fake terror name into something, pull a five-year-old child off, and for two days announce we stopped the terrorists, and then there's a quiet retraction.

02:43:41.000 Okay, it wasn't true.

02:43:43.000 Yeah, right.

02:43:43.000 That's my point.

02:43:44.000 I mean, we never heard of... I heard you say that before.

02:43:48.000 You were making those comments before, yeah?

02:43:50.000 Yeah, so it's just total and complete fear-mongering.

02:43:55.000 Alright, here's the other thing.

02:43:56.000 I wanted to see if you thought this was a coincidence.

02:43:59.000 I took out a dollar bill the other day, and I'm looking on the back of it.

02:44:04.000 And it's kind of funny that it has an all-seeing eye and a pyramid.

02:44:07.000 Meantime, there's no... It's kind of funny it says New World Order under it, yeah.

02:44:11.000 Well, I got a lot of things... Don't cut me off here, because I want to make a few points.

02:44:14.000 Because last time I called up, I've been calling a few times, and you cut me short.

02:44:17.000 But I want to make a point to you.

02:44:20.000 If you go to the back of a dollar bill, and if you can do this, Alex, if you have a one-dollar bill, it'll be pretty amazing, because I don't think you've ever seen this before.

02:44:27.000 You have one on you?

02:44:28.000 Sir, let me just say number one.

02:44:30.000 On average, I have callers on longer than other talk show hosts do.

02:44:33.000 And you already made a point, and I'm not fighting with you, but please don't imply that I'm cutting you short.

02:44:38.000 You're on the air right now.

02:44:39.000 No, no, no.

02:44:40.000 Let me just finish up real quick.

02:44:41.000 Okay, well you're asking if I've got a dollar bill on me.

02:44:43.000 Yes, I have a dollar bill.

02:44:44.000 Alright, if you draw a line from the A in annuit, if you look on top it says annuit coeptis, and on the bottom it says novus ordo seclorum, which means announcing the birth of a new world order in Latin.

02:44:55.000 If you draw a line, a horizontal line, from the A in annuit, Yes.

02:44:55.000 Yes.

02:45:00.000 to the after correct this is straight line right up right underneath a little

02:45:03.000 little pyramid with the art yes and then you draw a line

02:45:06.000 when they have to collect this to the second all in ordo

02:45:11.000 and then back up from the second orwin ordo to the a and and you would you

02:45:15.000 make it upside down triangle and then if you outline the triangle that the ready there

02:45:20.000 that that's already on the dot dollar and you look at all the point

02:45:23.000 Yeah, and it makes the star of Solomon.

02:45:25.000 No, Alex, Alex, look.

02:45:28.000 Look at it.

02:45:29.000 You have the M in cyclorum.

02:45:31.000 You have the A in annuit.

02:45:32.000 You have the S in coeptis.

02:45:33.000 You have the second O in ordo, and the N in novus, which spells Mason.

02:45:39.000 Perfectly, symmetrically, right in your face.

02:45:44.000 That is not a coincidence.

02:45:45.000 And then if you look right over the eagle, you have the same symbol.

02:45:50.000 Did you connect all the dots with all the little stars?

02:45:52.000 Yeah, I know.

02:45:53.000 It's all symbolism.

02:45:54.000 And yes, I had seen that before.

02:45:55.000 Now, did you see where it spells Mason?

02:45:58.000 I've seen this online before.

02:45:58.000 Yes, sir.

02:45:59.000 I've seen this pointed out.

02:46:00.000 Yes.

02:46:02.000 Unbelievable.

02:46:03.000 And there's also an owl on the front of the dollar bill.

02:46:08.000 Yeah, he's peeking up over the one dollar bill.

02:46:10.000 Alright, well, thanks for your time, Alex.

02:46:10.000 Exactly.

02:46:13.000 You have a great day.

02:46:14.000 Hey, I appreciate it.

02:46:15.000 Absolutely, sir.

02:46:16.000 No, it's not like the stuff in The Money's Hidden.

02:46:17.000 I mean, it says New World Order on the back with an all-seeing-eye pyramid, like Total Information Awareness Network.

02:46:23.000 I mean, it's New World Order, folks.

02:46:25.000 I've got hundreds of news articles with presidents and prime ministers and the pope and everybody calling for world government.

02:46:30.000 I mean, it's not like it's a conspiracy theory.

02:46:34.000 That's really going on.

02:46:36.000 You're absolutely right.

02:46:37.000 Let me just cover the article he mentioned.

02:46:39.000 Report.

02:46:39.000 Terrorist suspect landing at Cincinnati Airport.

02:46:42.000 There are reports of a fighter jet escorting a jet into Cincinnati Northern Kentucky Airport.

02:46:46.000 The plane is Delta Flight 043.

02:46:50.000 And it left Paris at 11.20 AM.

02:46:55.000 And it says the flight is said to be of interest.

02:46:57.000 According to reports, a woman was removed from the flight before it took off from Paris.

02:47:01.000 Charles de Gaulle International Airport.

02:47:03.000 Because she had an electronic device that was causing some suspicion. 1.00

02:47:06.000 The idiots had never seen a leather jacket you plug into the lighter. 1.00

02:47:10.000 They sell those everywhere. 1.00

02:47:11.000 The plane will be held in an area after, from the terminal when it lands, and then, uh, there's another article here posting, yeah, saying it was a false alarm.

02:47:21.000 So a flight from Paris is escorted by jets to land in Cincinnati.

02:47:25.000 So they get her off the plane, but, uh, just terrorists are everywhere, folks.

02:47:30.000 We're so lucky they're taking our rights away and arresting Anyone that holds up a sign protesting Bush.

02:47:36.000 The Justice Department is now charging people for protesting.

02:47:39.000 It's wonderful.

02:47:40.000 But the border's going to be wide open and everything's going to be happily ever after from there.

02:47:44.000 Thanks for the call, sir.

02:47:46.000 I'm glad to take your call.

02:47:47.000 I don't censor people.

02:47:48.000 If you actually time how long I keep a caller on and how much they talk, because I've done this.

02:47:53.000 I've listened to my rebroadcast before and I've sat there with a watch on my arm and watched it.

02:47:57.000 A caller usually gets to talk about two and a half minutes.

02:48:00.000 And then I'll talk about two and a half minutes with him.

02:48:02.000 Because I like to talk, too.

02:48:03.000 You know, I like to jump in and add something.

02:48:06.000 And I could do like other talk show hosts.

02:48:08.000 I could have you on about an average of 45 seconds.

02:48:11.000 That's about the average.

02:48:12.000 The consultants even tell you to do that.

02:48:14.000 45 seconds, maybe a minute, and they cut you right off.

02:48:17.000 Maybe we'll just start cutting folks off.

02:48:18.000 It's about 45 seconds.

02:48:20.000 And then they can complain that Alex cuts people off.

02:48:22.000 Because that's not what I do.

02:48:23.000 That's not what I do.

02:48:25.000 Okay?

02:48:26.000 Let's go ahead.

02:48:28.000 It's a good point you made, sir.

02:48:29.000 Thanks for making that point.

02:48:31.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Carl in D.C.

02:48:36.000 and then Ed in Pennsylvania.

02:48:38.000 Carl, thanks for holding.

02:48:38.000 Go ahead.

02:48:39.000 Hey Alex, how are you doing?

02:48:41.000 Great, sir.

02:48:42.000 I just wanted to say greetings from the Police State Capitol.

02:48:47.000 I wanted to invite everybody down to see the Capitol building and the White House before it's too late.

02:48:53.000 There's a seven or eight foot wall approximately around the Capitol.

02:48:57.000 They've blocked off the White House in about a two block radius.

02:49:02.000 That's happened months and months.

02:49:04.000 And I've talked to family who's been in D.C.

02:49:06.000 recently.

02:49:07.000 If you try to videotape Lincoln, guards will run up and begin screaming at you.

02:49:13.000 Video cameras anywhere in the city, they freak out.

02:49:16.000 As if you're evil, you might be a terrorist.

02:49:18.000 As if terrorists couldn't get pictures of the monuments.

02:49:21.000 They're training us how to be slaves.

02:49:24.000 But it's for your safety, right?

02:49:27.000 But the border stays wide open.

02:49:30.000 Yeah, and you also got to be sure to side-step the gray uniformed police that kind of look like something out of World War II Nazi Germany, but of course that's for your safety, too.

02:49:41.000 They're everywhere.

02:49:42.000 I mean, it is unbelievable how many... I can tell you, from May of 2003 to current, today, right now, eight months later, the number of police, it's increased by a factor of ten.

02:49:59.000 Easily.

02:49:59.000 And they've always got to hire more, and then they've got to have more reasons to, you know, to arrest you for any reason, why everything's terrorism now.

02:50:07.000 Isn't it great?

02:50:08.000 Don't you feel safe now?

02:50:09.000 The question is, what is it they have planned that's so horrible, they know we're going to resist?

02:50:14.000 See, why are they gearing up?

02:50:17.000 Well, okay, can I come back after the break?

02:50:20.000 Sure, sure, but I'm asking you, why do you think that?

02:50:23.000 Why do I think?

02:50:24.000 To keep everybody under control, just like, uh, Out to Germany. 0.88

02:50:28.000 Exactly, but why are they gearing up so quickly? What fun do they have planned for us? Think about that.

02:50:34.000 Think about that. We'll put you on hold and I'll give you about 30 seconds on the other side.

02:50:38.000 Then I've got to go to Ed and a few others and a few final news stories. Stay with us, folks.

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02:53:55.000 The more liberty you give up, the more tyranny you're going to be living under.

02:53:58.000 All right, let's let a couple callers finish real quick.

02:54:02.000 Go ahead, Carl in D.C., and finish your point.

02:54:05.000 Okay.

02:54:05.000 Well, I just wanted to say that I found God, I guess, about a year ago, but I'm feeling really angry and depressed, and I guess you've never really gotten a call like this, but it's hard to be positive.

02:54:19.000 It's hard to keep a positive Hey, at least you have a mission.

02:54:24.000 At least you know the truth.

02:54:26.000 Imagine being back in darkness, not knowing what's going on, having the wool over your eyes.

02:54:31.000 Now you have a mission to warn others.

02:54:34.000 You know, it's depressing to pull up and see your house on fire, but you can stand there and be depressed, you can run in and save your family.

02:54:40.000 So we're trying to save this country. 0.97

02:54:42.000 We've all got a job, and you won't be depressed once you take that anger and put it into taking action one day at a time, a little bit at a time, unlocking people's minds, standing up to this evil, and bringing these corrupt pieces of garbage to justice. 0.95

02:54:57.000 Roger that.

02:54:58.000 And you remind me of the judges in the Old Testament.

02:55:03.000 Once I read that, boy, that put a whole new outlook on things.

02:55:07.000 Absolutely.

02:55:08.000 God bless you, and I appreciate your call, sir.

02:55:10.000 Good to hear from you.

02:55:11.000 Let's let Ed in Pennsylvania be our tail gunner, because I've got a few final news articles here.

02:55:15.000 Go ahead, Ed.

02:55:16.000 Hi, brother Alex.

02:55:18.000 I just wanted to call and say that, man, just read parts of the Bible that deal with faith, and that's all you can do, really.

02:55:25.000 But I wanted to have one... I come up with a lot of... I'm in contact with a lot of people from the public, and the people in the public, and the public in general, and I have I drove a young kid, about 15, the other kid was 16, I was taking them to a private military school, and I asked them what they learned in school, and they went through the whole thing, geometry, math, you know, science, everything, and all the subjects except for history.

02:55:50.000 And I asked them, I said, well what, don't you have history?

02:55:52.000 He says, oh no, that's an elective.

02:55:55.000 And I almost ran off the street, I couldn't believe it.

02:56:00.000 Well of course!

02:56:01.000 History is an elective.

02:56:05.000 It's absolutely amazing what they're teaching these kids.

02:56:08.000 And this is a private... I'm sure it's probably about maybe $15,000 a year to send these kids to this private military school.

02:56:16.000 It's a military school.

02:56:18.000 And they're not even teaching... It's an elective.

02:56:23.000 It's amazing.

02:56:25.000 I mean, I can't... Back when I was a mandatory when I was going to school, that you had to learn And I guarantee you, if 10% of the parents of those children said, we want it to be mandatory, it would be.

02:56:40.000 Then the next step would be, make sure it's good history, not globalist garbage.

02:56:44.000 Thanks for the call. 0.87

02:56:45.000 You're welcome.

02:56:46.000 Good to hear from you.

02:56:46.000 We're almost out of time for this show.

02:56:48.000 We'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight central.

02:56:50.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2 central during the day as well.

02:56:55.000 And we'll let that caller go.

02:56:57.000 Thank you.

02:56:58.000 There is just so much I wanted to get to.

02:57:00.000 Again, Tony Blair, folks, got caught in a speech saying, weapons of mass distraction, and it's made headlines.

02:57:09.000 That little slip of the tongue.

02:57:11.000 There was a bunch of other news we didn't get to, but we had three great guests on, and I'll cover some of this news I didn't get to, like Rush Limbaugh now believes in conspiracy theories.

02:57:20.000 Tomorrow, along with all the other news that would have stacked up by then, we've got a lot of other great guests coming up this week and a lot of key info.

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