In this episode of the Alex Jones Show, host Alex Jones talks about the Bush administration's immigration reform plan, which includes a massive amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants. Also, former National Rifle Association board member Neil Knox joins the show to discuss gun control.
00:00:34.000It's the seventh day of this new year, January 7th, 2004.
00:00:41.000Websites are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:00:47.000Coming up in the next hour, we have Neil Knox, former NRA board member.
00:00:55.000In an October 2693 profile, the Wall Street Journal said Neil Knox is likely to have a greater impact on the rapidly escalating firefight over gun control than any other individual in America.
00:01:07.000He's one of the no-compromise old line people that used to be in the NRA at the higher levels.
00:01:13.000Now it's basically A gun-grabbing Judas Goat extravaganza.
00:02:46.000But this is different because it's in perpetuity.
00:02:48.000It changes the law where it's not just an amnesty for those that are here.
00:02:53.000Okay, and by the way, there's not 8 million, there's over 25 million, and then by the way, all their family can come here.
00:02:59.000But that doesn't matter, they don't have to bring their family now, because if their family gets here, gets across the border, they are legal for 3 years, and then after 3 years, they're totally legalized and given a green card.
00:03:13.000And Bush says this is his solution, oh, you've got your finger cut off here, let me chop your arm off.
00:03:37.000This headline that we've seen in the New York Times, the Washington Times, The Associated Press, Reuters, it's all the same opening line, looking to draw more Hispanics behind his re-election bid.
00:03:49.00082% of Hispanics in major polls want the borders shut and illegals deported.
00:03:52.000Every Hispanic I've talked to who's an American citizen, and most of those that are immigrants as well, don't want more illegals.
00:04:00.000They're not stupid, but again, they're creating this illusion that all Hispanics want this, and some are starting to buy it and go, yeah, yeah, you're against Hispanics if you don't want an open border.
00:04:10.000Hey, I'm not against Russians, I'm not against Mexicans, I'm not against Chinese.
00:04:14.000There's over 6 billion people, they all want to come here.
00:04:18.000We're now right up at 300 million, and that's just off some of the latest census numbers, folks.
00:04:25.000Most of the illegals don't go out and talk to the census taker, okay?
00:04:30.000A lot of estimates are we're at actually 325 million people.
00:04:37.000So we'll go over this, and you thought NAFTA and GATT were bad.
00:04:40.000You thought the tens of millions of illegals were bad.
00:04:54.000They'll also make up the military and be our prison guards.
00:04:56.000Oh, I have the mainstream news articles.
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00:08:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:08:25.000I had James Bovard, a well-known conservative columnist who's written for the New York Times, the Washington Times, American Spectator, They don't want his articles, though.
00:08:39.000Articles where you go out with a sign amongst 500, 1,000 Bush supporters, and you say, no blood for oil, and they come over and arrest you and charge you with federal crimes.
00:08:52.000And Mr. Bovard said, you know, I can't imagine that they're doing this, and he says, I can't imagine that a judge will convict The latest 55-year-old man that they arrested and have criminally charged.
00:09:10.000And they admit he was standing in a big crowd of people on the side of the road.
00:09:13.000And they all had Bush-supporting signs.
00:09:16.000They had held back the protesters out of view of the media and the President.
00:09:20.000He went with his sign and just said, I'm going to stand here with it.
00:10:12.000And said, well, you're only going to have to pay a $500 fine, but then repudiated him and said, you know, how dare you think that you can go protest?
00:10:25.000So I have that article, and I want to get Bovard back on, because he said, well, I can't believe they're arresting people all over the country, and I can't believe they're criminally charging, you know, 65-year-old steelworkers and, you know, grabbing 55-year-old people and just standing there with signs.
00:10:41.000Then I pointed out that the Dallas Morning News and Austin American Statesman have both reported that the state lost three lawsuits.
00:10:50.000This was about five years ago, four and a half years ago.
00:10:53.000Bush was governor, and if you stood anywhere on the streets around the governor's mansion across the street from the Capitol, these are main avenues in Austin, Texas.
00:11:03.000They're on the corner of 11th and Lavaca, or anywhere around there, they would come over and arrest you.
00:11:11.000And I have been out there protesting before.
00:11:14.000And, you know, protesting against gun grabbing and other stuff that was going on.
00:11:19.000And Bush wanting open borders here in Texas and trying to do that.
00:11:24.000And I had state police walk over and APD walk over and say, we're going to arrest you if you don't leave.
00:11:28.000And I'd say, hey, go ahead and arrest me.
00:11:35.000And I'd say, I know you've been arresting a lot of people, but please, I want to sue you.
00:11:39.000And they'd back off from me, but others.
00:11:42.000In fact, one of the big suits they lost was a bunch of handicapped folks who were out there protesting, and they arrested a bunch of old ladies in wheelchairs, loaded a paddy wagon with them, and that was just one of the lawsuits.
00:11:57.000They had to pay $100,000 a piece out to each of the old people.
00:12:00.000A couple of them were old ladies of those that sued and won.
00:12:04.000And they were on the sidewalk, not blocking traffic, sitting there with signs about the state budget.
00:12:18.000And when it really got obvious, here in Austin, when I worked for KJFK, one of the hosts who was on before me, Shannon Burke, he said, To one of the interns, he said, I want you to go down there with a sign that says, I like Bush.
00:12:38.000And they sent somebody down there with an audio recorder and a video camera as well across the street to tape all this.
00:12:44.000And the intern, I ought to call Shannon and get her name and have her on.
00:12:48.000It was in the Dallas Morning News, as I said.
00:12:50.000And she went and stood with the sign, I like Bush, during another protest of about 15 people against the death penalty.
00:12:57.000Pops came, arrested every one of them.
00:12:59.000She was standing among them, didn't say a word, just held her sign.
00:13:53.000My press pass is the First Amendment, buddy.
00:13:56.000A press pass is for a private institution who only allows certain members of the media in.
00:14:02.000Do you understand that a press pass is for a football game or a opera or a theater show where you can't have a million people claiming their press.
00:14:10.000Press passes were started about a hundred years ago because a lot of folks were saying they were press going to paid events.
00:14:17.000You don't need any press pass to walk down the street with a video camera.
00:14:21.000You don't need any permit to march or rally.
00:14:25.000You gotta have a permit to block traffic.
00:14:28.000You don't have to have any permit to be on a public sidewalk.
00:14:32.000And these are the laws, these are the precedents, this is the Constitution.
00:14:36.000But the cops, the average police officer out there, and I don't dislike you, I'm just angry at your ignorance, has been told our policy is, arrest anybody on the street with a sign, take anybody to jail that's doing this, but when they lost all those lawsuits downtown, at the Capitol, now suddenly in this city we don't see as much of that.
00:14:56.000Though Mike Hanson, who does some camera work for me, got a call that one of our listeners, they wanted to search his car and have his ID and all that, and he said no.
00:15:03.000Mike goes out to the scene, they're taking him to jail.
00:15:06.000Mike's about 70 feet away in a parking lot videotaping.
00:15:29.000You want to have helicopters looking through our walls and cameras on the street corners and cameras in the school bathrooms, but we're not supposed to have our cameras?
00:15:40.000And by the way, I see articles every week where people will be at a county courthouse As a college student with blonde hair and blue eyes, you're really in trouble if you've got dark skin.
00:15:51.000But all the time, white-bred Americans will be out there for a school report.
00:18:29.000And Vicente Fox came to Austin a couple months ago.
00:18:32.000And he gave an award to the police department for ignoring the federal law.
00:18:36.000Gave awards to the Wells Fargo because they issue a debit card that is accepted as ID by other banks and the Austin Police Department and hundreds of other cities.
00:18:47.000We're not just going to have the government issuing ID cards.
00:18:49.000Private corporations will issue their smart cards and that will be accepted, but not for you.
00:18:55.000I have watched illegal aliens with no ID, unable to speak Spanish.
00:19:00.000I've sat there in line with my wife, who does speak Spanish, and I have sat there and she has told me what they're saying and they are there with no paperwork and a Spanish-speaking teller comes up and gives them a bank account.
00:19:13.000I told you about the lady I know who runs the biggest apartment complex in Austin for the biggest company in the country, management company.
00:19:20.000They went to a big Dallas meeting last Christmas and they were told Illegals, you can let 10 be to a two-bedroom.
00:19:27.000But citizens, you fine them and kick them out.
00:19:30.000They said we are covertly government housing now, but no one is to know that one-third of our properties are government housing.
00:19:37.000That means one-third inside properties.
00:19:40.000And that we've been told by the feds to let the illegals do whatever they want.
00:19:43.000This is designed to destroy the middle class.
00:19:46.000Why do you think they give double tuition to illegals in several western states?
00:19:50.000Why do you think they give No income taxes for seven years for any foreigner.
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00:24:05.000Monday through Friday from 11am until 2pm Central Standard Time we do this show. There's
00:24:12.000a lot of propaganda surrounding Bush's quote immigration reform.
00:24:18.000you Number one, the word reform is not properly understood by the general public.
00:24:24.000Reform simply means to change the shape of.
00:24:26.000But we think of the word reform as a good thing.
00:24:44.000That's their reform and restricting non-profit organizations like Gun Owners of America and others 60 days before elections being able to go on talk shows and tell you how members of Congress voted.
00:24:56.000Oh, that sounds real good, violating the First Amendment.
00:24:59.000People said, oh, the courts will never uphold that.
00:25:39.000All I'm saying is we don't have a Republican Party in this country.
00:25:42.000People go, well, Bush is better than Gore.
00:25:44.000No, because conservatives would be awake and watchful and mistrusting of government, which the Founding Fathers said we should always be, regardless of who's in office, if we had Al Gore in office.
00:26:02.000But not Bush, because it's conservative.
00:26:07.000Bush proposing immigration reform for millions, and it says that in addition, those outside the country, not just people that are already here, but those outside the country wanting to work for the United States will be able to sign up for jobs that most Americans don't want.
00:26:41.000And we're not just competing against the illegals, we're competing against the prisons too!
00:26:46.000We've read the stories where, you know, a prison will set up a private industry and then there'll be four companies that were private hiring more people there in the city and it takes Seattle and four of them go out of business.
00:26:59.000All of them go out of business and now the prison gets all the business with a private company running the business and the prisoners get twenty cents an hour.
00:27:09.000Starting to get this and depending on which federal law they use, they get seven to ten years.
00:27:16.000Did you know that whether they're from Pakistan, or Russia, or Germany, or mainly Latin America, or any of these countries, ask them, go to one of these stores.
00:27:26.000You wonder why all the stores are owned by foreigners?
00:27:30.000Owned by people who can't speak English everywhere you go, 90% of them?
00:27:33.000Because they don't have to pay income taxes for 7 to 10 years!
00:28:39.000So, I hope you enjoy this, and I want you to remember what the economy was like today, ten years from now, as the illegals become legals and pour in and vote and take your guns and take your private property and ratchet up the taxes and vote in our new democracy for satellite tracking and taxation.
00:29:00.000I just, and the illegals, they won't mind, you know, once they're legal, swiping their card for the National Sales Tax.
00:29:05.000It's all going to be so much fun being slaves.
00:29:08.000I'm not trying to be negative here, I'm just stating the facts.
00:29:12.000I know it's not as important as Pete Rose.
00:29:17.000I know it's not as important as any of this ridiculous garbage.
00:29:20.000I know it's not as important as Colby Bryant.
00:29:24.000You know, yesterday we had one of the top bioethics folks on.
00:29:27.000We read part of the bill on air where New Jersey legalized taking clones to term, having the surrogate mothers give birth to them, keeping the babies alive and using them for body parts outside the womb.
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00:33:30.000The Wall Street Journal said Neil Knox is likely to have A greater impact on the rapidly escalating firefight over gun control than any other individual in America.
00:33:55.000It's like putting blacks back into slavery and calling it reform.
00:34:01.000just like his campaign finance reform it's not a reform in a good way
00:34:06.000also again uh... mercy found guilty fine five hundred dollars
00:34:11.000the feds prosecuted him they were trying to get uh... up to six months in federal prison a five thousand
00:34:17.000dollar fine But instead, he got a $500 fine for standing amongst hundreds of Bush supporters on a public street with a sign saying, no blood for oil.
00:34:27.000So again, the courts say, yeah, you can't stand on the street with a sign.
00:34:58.000Blair says I'll take Britain into the Euro by 2007.
00:35:02.000Before we go to our guest, Michael Rivero with WhatReallyHappened.com, an amazing website, one of the biggest alternative sites on the internet.
00:35:12.000Number one, if you want to wake people up and have a great tool to share the information we cover on this show with people, it's wonderful.
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00:37:36.000Mr. Rivero is a case point example of how just an average person can take action and reach millions of people.
00:37:44.000Michael, good to have you on the show.
00:37:46.000Thank you for having me on the show this morning, Alex, and obviously a lot of the material that I have in my site is linking to InfoWars.com.
00:37:54.000Well, I just want to say that you've done so much wonderful work over the years, and again, I go back to that.
00:38:02.000We really can stand up against this, can't we?
00:38:05.000Yes, we absolutely can, and I think the most important thing about websites such as yours and mine, and increasingly more and more every day, ...is that we've broken the information monopoly of the mainstream media.
00:38:16.000People are now able to find information that the TV networks and the major newspapers would just assume that they not see.
00:38:23.000And in a lot of ways, these modern blogging websites are very similar to what was called the Samizdat in the old USSR, which was a network not of computers, but of fax machines that passed around stories from machine to machine.
00:38:40.000Which basically exposed the corruptions and deceptions of the government and ultimately was a major contributor to the collapse of the former Soviet Union.
00:38:47.000Now, the globalists count on us only dealing in the now, not having a long-term memory as Winston talks about in 1984.
00:38:55.000But by showing the progression of their lives, by showing the patterns of their corruption, by taking regionalized news that never gets out of certain regions and bring it all to one place, we are very accurate at even predicting future events.
00:39:51.000And now, Michael, they're just phasing out history altogether.
00:39:54.000Yes, it is being very much de-emphasized in terms of more indoctrination about current politics.
00:40:01.000And whole sections of history which are really meaningful for what we're going through right now are simply not being taught in the schools at all.
00:40:08.000Michael, how did you get involved in this?
00:40:09.000You know, as a case point example for those out there that are saying, oh, what can I do?
00:40:15.000Well, believe it or not, it was almost by accident and this coming March will be the 10th anniversary of my website.
00:40:22.000And it all started back with the death of White House Deputy Counsel Vincent Foster.
00:40:27.000And I really was not involved politically at the time, but my day job, I work in motion picture and TV special effects, and I happened to see the photograph that was leaked by the White House to Reuters News, showing Foster's hand with the gun.
00:40:40.000And the instant I looked at it, I knew it was a staged shot, because there were so many problems wrong with it.
00:40:47.000So I grabbed a copy of it, and I put it up on a sub-page on my then-at-the-time business website, saying there is something funny going on here.
00:40:54.000And the next thing I knew, We were getting death threats in the middle of the night, and there was a serious amount of career-wrecking going on around Hollywood to basically bury me, much as the way the FBI had buried Gene Seberg and others during the 60s.
00:41:10.000Did you know that when I go out to L.A.
00:41:11.000and I meet with famous people, and I'll talk about it on the air, my name, and I'm just a little guy, all the big execs know who I am, they all talk about me, they walk up to me in restaurants and know who I am.
00:41:22.000They really know who we are, don't they?
00:41:26.000There's kind of a situation where a lot of them really do admire and support what you're doing and what I'm doing and what others are doing, but they can't really say it in front of others because they're never sure how it might come back to negatively impact their own business dealings and their own career.
00:41:42.000And for people who've spent their entire lives to try and get to the positions where they're in, that's a lot for them to risk.
00:41:50.000They may say privately to you one thing and then publicly something else, but there's a lot more support there than you might think.
00:41:58.000And under Bush, they've even got dossiers going around.
00:42:01.000They've got Karl Rove and Lionel Chetwin admittedly managing the media, paying them funds for what I call propaganda placement.
00:42:09.000Not product placement, but placing propaganda in the TV shows.
00:42:14.000And I even had Lionel Chetwin threaten me in a stage bathroom on the Conspiracy Zone set.
00:42:22.000Yes, there's a tremendous amount of pressure being applied right now because ultimately the government cannot control the Internet.
00:42:30.000All they can control is the movies and TV and networks because of FCC and a lot of existing influence.
00:42:37.000So they're pushing it as hard as they can to try and counter what is coming out over the Internet.
00:42:41.000And I think what is really laughable is this new U.S.S.
00:42:46.000Liberty event that is being staged by the State Department, and I use the word staged because it's obviously in response to the revelations by one of the investigators of the original U.S.S.
00:42:57.000Liberty investigation that LBJ ordered them to conclude it was an accident, even though the evidence pointed to something else.
00:43:05.000government feels that they have to put up this little dog and pony show with a retired bankruptcy judge who is neither an investigator nor a scientist, uh... at the keynote speaker now for those who don't know
00:43:15.000on prison planet dot com right now of course what really happened dot com
00:43:19.000uh... we have the news article about the state department to quote you know put
00:43:25.000this is your of the jerusalem post u s plans conference on u s s
00:43:29.000liberty incident i've had the people on the ship on a bad the admirals
00:43:33.000on i've had the people on who were told
00:43:36.000uh... you know cover this up uh... they've been it's clear
00:43:40.000And people even talked to McNamara on the phone, on ships, on spy bases, and were told, you keep this quiet, you shut this down.
00:43:50.000As the planes were being launched, one of the admirals was refusing to turn them back, and it's clear, and correct me if I'm wrong, Michael, that this was the White House with Israel, together, planning to sink that ship to blame it on Egypt.
00:44:05.000That seems to be the most obvious conclusion.
00:44:08.000One issue that keeps coming up over and over again for those who keep saying, oh, it was just an accident, is if Israel attacked the USS Liberty thinking it was an Egyptian ship and a legitimate target of war, then why did they attack it using unmarked ships and planes?
00:44:24.000When, if it was a legitimate attack during time of war, they could have just gone ahead with their regular marked aircraft and boats for the attack.
00:44:31.000Obviously, the only reason to use unmarked ships and planes is to put the blame for the attack on a third party.
00:44:35.000Well, I've read papers out of Israel where pilots and others have admitted that they were told to attack the ship and knew what it was.
00:45:25.000Yes, and it's getting completely out of control, and I think we're coming to the point where there's going to be not only a crisis in this country, I think there may even be a crisis within Israel itself, because there's actually more people are moving away from Israel than moving to it.
00:45:45.000Why did the Likud party, and we've had Barry Hamish and others on, folks, why did the hardliners in Israel kill Yishak Rabin?
00:45:55.000Well, this is an area in which I'm probably less qualified to answer than some of your other guests, but it does appear that it was an attempt to simply remove a potential competitor who was standing in the way of Ariel Sharon's rise to power.
00:46:14.000In just a few minutes, your synopsis of September 11th and the ensuing police state.
00:46:22.000Well, I think it's very obvious if you go back and look at the foreign press, the United States was already announcing to other nations a plan to invade Afghanistan in October 2001, and they were making this announcement as early as March of 2001.
00:46:36.000So, when 9-11 happened, it happened at exactly the right moment to anger the American people into support of the invasion of Afghanistan, which was already in progress.
00:46:47.000And Bush had the launch orders on his desk two days before.
00:46:50.000The troops en masse, this was all done with precision.
00:46:54.000It was all ready to go when it happened.
00:46:57.000And it is, in light of some of the revelations that have come out about the original Pearl Harbor, following the declassification of certain documents in 1994, It is appropriate to call 9-11 the new Pearl Harbor, because both of them were deceptions designed to goad the U.S.
00:47:11.000into a war they otherwise would not have supported.
00:47:14.000Now let me throw something else in here.
00:47:23.000Now, as a young child, I went there and saw the midget sub sunk that morning before the attack even began.
00:47:28.000Now it's come out that three others were sunk at the gate of the harbor that morning, and the ships and people were still told to stand down.
00:47:44.000There's a book out called Day of Deceit by Commander Robert B. Stinnett, which is a wonderful expose of the Pearl Harbor deception.
00:47:51.000And since I live here in Hawaii, I've been able to actually go around and confirm a great deal of the material that is in that book.
00:47:57.000Most notably, that the Japanese fleet was broadcasting on their radios all the time.
00:48:02.000They were not maintaining radio silence, and their transmitters were so powerful that the passenger ship, SS Lure Line, picked them up, and their radio operator gave a log of the intercepts to the U.S.
00:48:14.000Navy here in Pearl Harbor two days before the attack.
00:48:17.000And that record has now, of course, completely vanished.
00:48:20.000But it is a complete myth and deception to say that the fleet was maintaining radio silence.
00:48:27.000So back to September 11th, I kind of diverted you off of that.
00:48:33.000It's not an urban legend that the Otago Instant Messenger company, I have the Jerusalem Post on this and others, or ROTS as well, did tell their employees not to go to work.
00:48:43.000It is a fact that Mayor Willie Brown was told not to fly to New York.
00:48:46.000It is a fact the Joint Chiefs of Staff were told not to go to D.C.
00:48:51.000This is all on the record, but all of these hundreds of points have just kind of receded back into the background.
00:48:58.000Your take on that and also this new whitewash commission.
00:49:02.000Well, my take on that is, along with the other information, of course, it's come out that Willie Brown got his warning not to fly that day directly from Condoleezza Rice's office.
00:49:11.000So that puts the line of inside information right into the White House itself.
00:49:16.000There was also one other event which seems to have escaped a lot of notice, and that is that many of the key executives of businesses operating in the World Trade Center had been invited to a special breakfast.
00:49:27.000uh... that was uh... conducted uh... in uh... i think it exactly where the last got a u s military base warren buffett yeah that was that that was the one i was talking about so a lot of those key players were invited away from the building by the way that's the associated press i'm sorry that's the associated press on that go ahead uh... i think what is key to understand is that there are clear signs of frame ups going on in u.s.
00:49:52.000terror attacks And I think we want to start with skipping off to one side a moment to the anthrax letters case, which everybody was all screaming about Stephen Hatfield and going back and forth and the FBI was haranguing him and harassing him and tore up his girlfriend's apartment and they even drained a pond near his home and found absolutely nothing.
00:50:12.000Meanwhile, the Hartford Courant reported that there was actually a suspect that security systems had caught going in where the anthrax was being stored, but the FBI has never bothered to investigate him.
00:50:24.000The key point is that... And of course, this guy's an Israeli.
00:50:29.000I don't know if he's specifically an Israeli citizen, but... In the articles I've seen, and this is mainstream stuff, he's got Mossad connections.
00:50:36.000That very well may be the case, but the point is that regardless of whether it's Dr. Zak or Dr. Hatfield, those letters that were included with the anthrax proved that somebody was trying to frame Arab Muslims for terror attacks in the U.S.
00:50:49.000Now, with that hard proof of that, we go back to September 11th, and we start- Stay there, Michael Rivero.
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00:54:50.000This kind of deception has been going on for a very, very long time, and the reason it works is because your average citizen wants to believe that they are brave and courageous and can stand up to a government that's gone corrupt.
00:55:02.000But the reality is, they aren't, and they don't even want to admit that to themselves.
00:55:07.000So, all propaganda really does is give people who don't want to think about what's going on an excuse not to think about what's going on.
00:55:15.000That's why you have people 40 years after the fact with all that's come out, you still have people clinging to the Warren Report because they don't want to have to admit that the government itself was behind John Kennedy's assassination, because then they'd have to do something about it.
00:55:29.000And the instant they know the government is doing something wrong and then decide not to do something about it, Then they have to stop thinking of themselves as being brave and courageous and standing up for truth and honesty.
00:55:39.000You know, you crystallize that down in just a few words, and I try to elaborate on it, but that's it.
00:55:44.000This propaganda is good because it makes it easy.
00:55:47.000It makes it, you know, oh, it's just for this group or that group, but you know, it's so skillfully done where it plays to our laziness and our fear.
00:55:54.000That's exactly right, and yet it will not withstand careful scrutiny, and it's not designed to.
00:55:59.000Propaganda is really just that lie that most people will be comfortable with.
00:56:05.000So, will Vladimir Putin, will Tony Blair, will any of these people be brought to justice for acts of terrorism?
00:56:11.000Well, only if they make a really bad mistake to where the public simply cannot avoid confronting the reality of what's been going on.
00:56:19.000And every once in a while that does happen.
00:56:21.000It happened in the United States in 1776.
00:56:23.000It happened in France during their revolution.
00:56:26.000Where the people who were in charge just made one mistake too many, and the people said, okay, we can't pretend that this is not the way the world is right now, and we've got to do something about it.
00:56:38.000What do you see happening in this new year?
00:56:40.000More terror attacks, or have we done a good enough job so far of exposing them to back them off from doing big domestic events?
00:56:47.000Well, I'm hoping the latter, because the one thing that will prevent more staged terror events is if the perpetrators think that there's a real chance That they could be exposed, that people will not believe the fall guy, the scapegoat, and there has been a lot of fragmentation, if you will, of the existing cover-up.
00:57:07.000Robert Mueller, the head of the FBI, has actually admitted there is no real evidence that links the named 9-11 suspects to the actual crime.
00:57:15.000And more and more, as I said, people are becoming aware that we really don't know who was on those planes, only who we're supposed to blame for it.
00:57:23.000Well, also, every person that's a supposed enemy terrorist, like Bin Laden or Saddam, no one has connections to them like the Bushes.
00:57:33.000And there was that incident in Palestine about three months ago where they busted an Al-Qaeda cell and realized they had actually picked up a bunch of Mossad agents.
00:57:42.000And by the way, that's the Jerusalem Post and the Haraj.
00:57:49.000Yeah, that was covered pretty much everywhere, but then it was very quickly downplayed, much as the Carl Cameron story on Fox News, the four-part series about the Israeli spiring.
00:57:59.000They don't even deny this stuff, though.
00:58:01.000It's like, well, let's not talk about that.
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01:00:49.000That's how Hitler was able to attack Poland.
01:00:51.000You know, the Germans didn't just buy what Hitler was saying, oh, let's attack Poland tomorrow.
01:00:56.000No, it's not taught in history, but it is in the encyclopedia, is that Hitler attacked his own radio station, his own military relay station, had the people killed, left some uniforms laying around, and announced, oh, we've been attacked, we've been attacked by the evil Poles.
01:01:36.000What are other key issues we should be aware of?
01:01:40.000Well, the key issues that we have to keep in mind is there is no question but what the government is lying to the American people to further their agenda of war and conquest.
01:01:51.000There never were any weapons of mass destruction that were a threat to the United States in Iraq.
01:01:57.000Some of the earlier videotapes of Osama bin Laden turned out to be completely fake, and it is very telling that with these latest audiotapes of osama that uh... the u k is simply saying we
01:02:11.000assume it's really him although we're not going to say that it is
01:02:14.000and the c i a is now hedging their bets by saying it's likely it is him
01:02:18.000because i think they're tired of being embarrassed by saying oh yes it's a
01:02:21.000pharma and then having some expert somewhere else in the world
01:02:24.000conclusively prove that it wasn't Also about three months ago they released a quote new tape on the news and two days later quietly okay it was edited old tapes together.
01:02:34.000We have a Pentagon that plants fake letters from troops and newspapers about how much they love the war.
01:02:41.000The Pentagon Office of Strategic Information admittedly lying to us and we can't believe a word they say.
01:02:46.000We absolutely cannot and the important thing to keep in mind right now is that the burden of proof ...has shifted from the public to the government.
01:02:55.000The government is now obligated to prove every claim they make.
01:02:58.000They can't just simply stand there and say, you will believe what we say because we're the government and we're here to help you.
01:03:04.000And this applies to just about every aspect of the relationship between the government and the people.
01:03:11.000Only a fool would go on listening to the government and giving them the benefit of the doubt.
01:03:15.000From now on, everything must be viewed with a tremendous amount of suspicion In terms of who is benefiting, what the government is attempting to do, certainly we're continuing to see the same kind of propaganda campaigns against Libya and Syria and Iran that we were seeing leading up to the war in Iraq.
01:03:32.000Well, whatever happened with Jessica Lynch?
01:03:34.000They admit that's a fable, and they still release the Made for TV movie and there's no discussion of it.
01:03:39.000Absolutely, and even Jessica Lynch herself was saying, you know, this is not what I remember.
01:03:45.000It's all packaging, and I think part of it may be that Bush and his neocon advisors are sitting on the top of several layers of mid-managers who don't want to share with them just how bad it's really getting out here in the heartland.
01:04:00.000Bush says he doesn't even read the newspaper.
01:04:02.000I think that's a very telling comment.
01:04:04.000I think Bush and his neocon buddies may be living inside an artificial bubble where they really think this is all working.
01:04:13.000And they're telling him that there are armies there that don't really exist and everything to keep him happy.
01:04:19.000But I think probably there's a layer of people between the White House and the rest of the world that are simply saying, boy, if we tell them how bad things are going, we're going to lose our jobs.
01:04:27.000So let's just tell them that everything's fine and that everybody believes Jessica Lynch and everybody believes Syria is nasty and the rest of it.
01:04:34.000And when it finally breaks through, it's probably going to be a very uncomfortable moment.
01:04:39.000We'll hear when you think that's going to happen, and I respect your opinion on it.
01:04:43.000Michael Rivera, WhatReallyHappened.com, in our final segment with him.
01:04:47.000Then we're going to take a call or two for him when we get back, and we'll then go to Neil Knox.
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01:08:09.000I want to take one or two calls here in a second.
01:08:13.000But, Mike, you know, I was posing that question as we went into the break, and can you answer that for us?
01:08:25.000Could you refresh my memory which question that was?
01:08:28.000Well, just, you know, you were talking about them living in these ivory towers and this bad thing, you know, this explosion, this geometric awakening to the tyranny and the lies being quite an event, and when do you see that happening, if it happens, or how will it happen, or will it be more of the globalist system falling apart with a whimper not a bang?
01:08:52.000Well, I'm hoping it'll be with a whimper rather than a bang, because, you know, I'm opposed to violence and bloodshed.
01:09:22.000economy in such tremendous difficulty, I think we may see The economic system collapsed before too much longer, and that will pull the government down with it.
01:09:32.000Now Mike, that's really scary because Congressman Ron Paul says the exact same thing, and it's in my film Matrix of Evil.
01:09:39.000He says they're in these ivory towers, there's going to be a depression, and that we're in deep trouble, and we don't think of this giant system falling apart, but it really could happen.
01:09:56.000We have a stock market which has lost a lot of credibility because of the Enron scandal.
01:10:01.000We have a nation which, starting 30 years ago, pretty much turned its back on the manufacturing ability, and we just started licensing our technology to other countries, which then manufactured it and sold it back to us.
01:10:14.000And the third, of course, is because of that, we have this incredible balance of trade problem of a billion and a half dollars per day.
01:10:21.000And between all three of them, there is really no way to prop up the dollar.
01:10:26.000And one of the reasons given for this grab for Middle Eastern oil was to turn oil from an imported to an exported product to demand dollars to be paid for it, thereby literally supporting the US dollar with oil rather than with gold.
01:10:41.000Now, I mean, it's like when you spray cockroaches with poison, they start mating, basically.
01:10:54.000It seems like America's turned into that gas station bathroom, and the people in the system are just trying to make all the money they can.
01:11:01.000I really do see that starting to happen.
01:11:04.000I've had a quote on my website for many years now that the last official act of any government is to loot the nation.
01:11:11.000And I do believe that we are starting to see that right now with this rampant corporate looting of their own companies, and they're being allowed to just go ahead and do that as long as they kick something back to the politicians.
01:11:23.000I mean, we have Kenneth Lay walking around a free man with all the billions he took from his employees and investors, while at the same time we've got Tommy Chong in jail for selling a pipe.
01:11:33.000And that pretty much tells you just how seriously skewed out of balance the whole society has become.
01:11:37.000Tommy Chong put his name on a website selling Well, the point is that he didn't take money from people who weren't willing to give it to him, as opposed to Ken Lay, who just swindled billions and billions of dollars.
01:11:50.000Exactly, but I mean, they're even using the Patriot Act on Lord Limbaugh now.
01:11:54.000They're using it on topless bars and county commissioners.
01:11:59.000Oh yes, it's gone completely out of control, and all the assurances that we were told that this was only to fight terror Definitely that was another one of the lies.
01:12:06.000Have you thought that, and this is what they say, that they're actually designing this implosion to make us a third world country?
01:12:11.000That's why they're setting up the police state when the middle class finally realizes it?
01:12:15.000I think that this police state is so that as they go on raising taxes and taking more money out of us that we no longer have the right to say no.
01:12:23.000And did you hear about the now a federal court ruling where, yeah, you can't stand in a group of Bush supporters on a street with a sign that's against Bush?
01:12:31.000Yeah, that's a pretty scary development.
01:12:34.000Our rights to free speech are basically being eroded away.
01:13:22.000First of all, Bush is going to dump a lot of printed paper on the nation to make the economy look good going into the election.
01:13:28.000The other thing is to look at those companies whose stock are doing well and seeing if they're really based on manufacturing profits or if it's just more creative bookkeeping like we had with Enron to run up the stock prices and personal bonuses.
01:13:40.000And then, oh, we're safe because they're going after Martha, who's a minnow compared to a whale, and the dollars he valued by 40-plus percent.
01:13:47.000It takes more of those dollars to buy that same stock.
01:13:50.000We actually have a net loss in the stock market.
01:13:52.000Mike Rivero, I want to get you back on the show.
01:14:25.000The stock market going back up, I mean, it's very, very dangerous.
01:14:31.000And I told you, for two years, before the stock market really started going down in mid-2000, I said, hey, remember when it was up a couple thousand points above what it is now?
01:14:44.000I said, folks, you need to get out now.
01:14:46.000And I had a lot of Dellionaires and other local folks that had Dell stock worth a million bucks or whatever.
01:14:52.000You know, just people that worked there.
01:15:20.000Oil stocks have been up because of what's happening.
01:15:23.000But the global has started something new here that we haven't seen since the depression.
01:15:28.000Now they'll take a real company that has real assets, they'll transfer the assets out the back door quietly, blow out the company and say there are no assets, and defraud the shareholders.
01:15:55.000So certainly to take some of those green Federal Reserve notes, the cotton, I say paper, they're really cotton, to take those pieces of cloth, thin cloth, And put it into stock, you know, is certainly there's more value there than just having the money.
01:16:12.000I would say have some stock, have some gold, have some silver, pay down those debts, have a couple acres you can retreat to of biological weapons released.
01:16:25.000So, I mean, I would just tell people to diversify, but a lot of these companies aren't really making anything, and it is creative bookkeeping.
01:16:33.000The other question is, do you want to own stock in IBM?
01:16:39.000They're in the biometrics, they're in the slave grids, they're in the face scanning cameras, they're in the implantable microchips, they're in the human genome project, owning half of it.
01:16:50.000I mean, you want to know one of the few companies that will be left at the end of all this, it's going to be IBM.
01:16:57.000I wouldn't buy stock, you know, in, you know, if Adolf Hitler owned a company, I wouldn't buy stock in it, even, you know, in 1936, even if I knew my stock would quadruple or quintuple.
01:17:08.000I'm not going to be involved with Adolf Hitler.
01:17:11.000And, uh, by the way, IBM did help Hitler, and that's why they put the tattoos on the slaves in the camps.
01:17:17.000That was an IBM International Business Machine number.
01:17:21.000They decide off the machines with IBM technicians how much to feed somebody for their weight and age or whether to kill them in the slave camps.
01:17:59.000And of course, the IBM folks are the family that owns it and runs it, are the heads of the bohemian grove at the highest level They're right up there with David Rockefeller and just a couple others, the Dutch Roll family, the British Royal family and of course the Rothschilds.
01:18:18.000But folks don't talk enough about IBM so I thought I'd throw that out there at you just so you would be aware of its activities.
01:18:29.000We'll break and come back and take calls.
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01:24:38.000As I understand it, the history of our own American Revolution at that point in time, 30% were very patriotic and wanted liberty, 30% were indifferent, and 30%, of course, remained loyal to the crown.
01:24:50.000Meaning 60% essentially were cowardly, they wanted to stay with the status quo, would do nothing.
01:24:55.000And 30% were very determined to have liberty.
01:24:58.000Well, it was actually about 2% started the war, 5% won it, but yeah, about a third were supportive.
01:25:04.000Bottom line is, majorities are always cowardly, because it's just the nature of human beings, and it's the very committed minority, sizable, something in the 30-some-odd percent range is sizable, but a minority, that usually brings about the affirmative change in any society.
01:25:21.000And I think that eventually was going to have to happen here.
01:25:25.000What happened today with the Bush administration is pretty much, I think, the final flag, if you will, or the last straw to indicate that these people do not have the interest of the American people, the citizens of the United States of America.
01:25:40.000And for those who don't know, it's total legalization in perpetuity of anybody that wants to come here, and the government will even be a job locator for those in third world countries and help them get here.
01:25:51.000Alex, I think it would be better set If we were to say, it is total displacement of the Native American population by a corrupt government that wants to destroy this society and this country as we have historically known it.
01:26:22.000to try and fight the American Patriots.
01:26:24.000We now have our own, well, we now have this government.
01:26:27.000Yeah, they're desperately pouring in a giant mass of third world people, and the majority of Hispanics are against this happening, but the news keeps saying Bush is doing it to make Hispanics happy.
01:26:39.000When they all know, the focus groups know, the polls are 80 plus percent of Hispanics are against this.
01:26:44.000But it isn't just the, you know, Latin America's the majority, that's why we talk about Latin America so much, it's all these other countries.
01:26:50.000Well, that's a nice cover story, but the reality is Bush is probably doing this to help out transnational financial and banking interests, you know, who want to turn this place into nothing more than a slave factory.
01:27:29.000We've been giving lists of websites and stuff.
01:27:31.000And it's obviously having an effect to the point that now the public libraries, as well as university libraries, now have people, they have to log on and enter their name and a special number.
01:27:45.000So basically they can monitor Who is watching what, and people now have to self-censor themselves, and it's becoming a real problem in regards to getting information across.
01:27:56.000You should get a group together, an organization, and stand against that, and sue!
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01:33:35.000And, you know, who is the Firearms Coalition?
01:33:37.000Well, we'll talk about that, because there's not just Jews for the Preservation of Firearms, a great organization, or Gunners of America, another wonderful group, with Larry Pratt.
01:33:47.000There's also the Firearms Coalition, and Neil Knox, again, in a profile in the Wall Street Journal, said that Neil Knox is likely to have a greater impact on the rapidly escalating firefight over gun control than any other individual in America.
01:34:02.000And of course, he has been the founder and editor of Gun Week, editor and publisher of Hand Loader and Rifle Magazines, and executive director of the NRA, ILA, following a member's rights revolt at the 1977 NRA convention in Cincinnati.
01:34:22.000Since 84, he has worked as a writer and lobbyist, supported by people who believe, as he does, that the Second Amendment is about the fundamental right to defend self, family, home, country.
01:34:33.000If we had a bunch of Neil Knox's at the NRA, we'd be repealing gun laws, not talking about Bush getting ready to reauthorize the assault weapons ban.
01:34:43.000Neil Knox, good to have you on the show, sir.
01:35:02.000I used to be a newspaper man down in the great state of Texas, in North Texas, Vernon, Wichita Falls.
01:35:10.000Then I went to Sydney, Ohio to start Gun Week back in 1966.
01:35:15.000At that time, I had been writing for some of the gun magazines.
01:35:19.000I had what I believe was the first footnoted scholarly type article on Whether or not gun laws actually reduce crime, because I was chopping down what Tom Dodd was saying then.
01:35:35.000But I started lobbying the Hill back in the summer of 1966 and I have been at it ever
01:35:44.000I didn't want to bore anybody with a long life tenure, but during the time that I was
01:36:01.000the Island Director, which was from 1978 to 1982, that was a year after the Cincinnati
01:36:08.000Reform, the so-called member revolt, which I played a significant role in that.
01:36:16.000We put Harlan Carter in as the one that was on the board and a former Executive Director of ILA, we felt that he would do the best job and he talked me into coming back to D.C.
01:37:28.000And it was a scary thought, but it did work.
01:37:34.000During my four and a quarter years that I was in there, not one federal gun law was passed and we started out with an anti-gun majority in the House, particularly, and in the Senate.
01:37:52.000They were all Democratic-controlled, Democratic Party-controlled.
01:38:16.000Now back then they were a little more honest about their plans to disarm us.
01:38:19.000Now they use mislabeling in this creeping death format.
01:38:24.000But I'm very interested that back in 1977, the NRA convention in Cincinnati, how you had that members revolt.
01:38:32.000How do we engineer one of those today?
01:38:34.000Because the NRA and its magazine and its publications will not tell its members that Bush has said And the Associated Press that he's going to reauthorize the assault weapons ban, no matter what's tacked onto it.
01:38:54.000Well, I didn't see the, no matter what is tacked onto it.
01:38:58.000What has happened is Scott McClellan, who was then deputy and is now the full-time press secretary for Mr. Bush, He said, in answer to a question, that they did support, as he had supported in the 2000 campaign, the re-enactment.
01:39:22.000And I don't think they've gone beyond simple re-enactment.
01:39:33.000I want to keep it off his desk so that he doesn't Have the opportunity to do it.
01:39:39.000He has done nothing, I guarantee you, that I know of, to push it.
01:39:43.000And this has been causing the people over on the other side to scream madly.
01:39:48.000I don't like the fact that he's where he is.
01:39:51.000At the same time, he hasn't been out there pushing for it.
01:39:56.000And I think that if we all keep putting the pressure on the White House, he won't.
01:40:05.000Well, I don't have the articles in front of me, but I've had quite a few guests on and Pratt and others, and we've gone over the statements and they have been asked, well, you know, if they bring you this bill and it's got stuff added to it, what are you going to do?
01:40:20.000And they say, well, we support the reenactment.
01:40:23.000And, you know, that sounds to me like they're saying they're going to authorize it.
01:40:28.000And they've said that they will re-authorize what's already there that's bad enough.
01:40:34.000I mean, look, most politicians that are pro-gun get re-elected, what is it, 86% in the 2000 election, I saw the numbers.
01:40:43.000It's constitutional, it's what the people want, we've been winning the fight for the minds of the people.
01:40:50.000I mean, how do we get that law repealed or not get it re-enacted?
01:40:58.000All we have to do is let that thing die.
01:41:00.000Now, Tom DeLay has said that he would not call that bill to the floor.
01:41:09.000What's bothered me is that the other side is going to do their best, and I've seen some internal memos from the other side where they were talking about working with certain senators, that they want to put The Quote Assault Weapon Band, mechanically identical to the one that my dad, who's 91 years old, last year when he busted a nice 10 point buck about 70 miles north of you up near Lampassus.
01:41:44.000he used a a browning b a r beautiful uh... putting rifle
01:41:50.000that is gas operated magazine fed semi-automatic with the debt
01:41:55.000with a box magazine detachable box mag
01:42:00.000that is what they call an assault weapon and if they could they would ban them all to quote diane feinstein
01:42:38.000And I must say that the administration has been helpful to us in a lot of ways.
01:42:44.000I was irritated with them back in the fall when they did not help us on one that The Office of Personnel Management had given a contract to Andrew McKelvey, the guy that came up with this mislabeling that you're talking about.
01:43:01.000McKelvey's group is so-called Americans for Gun Safety.
01:43:18.000I don't know how much he gives each year to it, but that mislabeling business of his is the one that says now we're going to talk about gun safety instead of gun control, that kind of thing.
01:43:34.000Now, those people plan to try to add the so-called assault weapon ban to S-659, which is the It's like if I go and buy a Louisville Slugger and kill somebody with it, you don't go after me, you sue Louisville Slugger.
01:43:53.000from being sued for the criminal misuse of their products, which is just stupid that
01:44:04.000Yeah, it's like if I go and buy a Louisville Slugger and kill somebody with it, you don't
01:44:09.000go after me, you sue Louisville Slugger.
01:44:13.000That's their weird notion. That's one of the big fights of the year.
01:44:17.000Now, NRA has been pushing that one since 1998.
01:44:22.000They have called that their top priority, and I was more than a little concerned, oh, let's say a little over a year ago, when I first started hearing this noise about combining those two.
01:44:45.000And for those that don't know, that would bring massive California-style so-called safety regulatory control over gun manufacturers, you know, like they do with a lot of other industries.
01:44:58.000And then with that, they'd be able to ban guns outright by declaring them unsafe.
01:45:04.000Well, you're talking about the Consumer Product Safety Commission stuff, which You're right about what they want to do and what it would do, but the one I'm talking about... I've read articles where they're going to try to attach that to a bill.
01:45:17.000Oh, they absolutely, they've been trying to do it ever since 1974 when they first rolled it out.
01:45:23.000Okay, let me cover a few other issues here real quick with you, Neil.
01:45:58.000How do we force the Republicans that have the Supreme Court, the House, the Senate, and the Executive to start repealing and dismantling gun control that has made Chicago the most dangerous city in the country?
01:46:13.000Well, in answer to all those questions, I don't know.
01:46:19.000But I do know that you cannot do it by patting a Republican on the head just because he's a Republican and saying, there, there, that's okay, go ahead and vote against us once in a while and we won't object.
01:47:19.000And right there in the great state of Texas, I remember in Austin, statesman American a couple of years ago bragging about Project Exile version in Texas, they said that This one old boy that had been hammered had no previous criminal record, but he had possessed a gun while he was under a restraining order.
01:47:49.000In the great state of Texas, a restraining order in a divorce.
01:48:23.000wants to ban all the guns they say we can ban every gun we want it's not an
01:48:26.000individual right and the supreme court says yeah yeah we're gonna let that
01:48:30.000ruling stand now this is our republican court again neil again i wouldn't call
01:48:36.000it a republican court i'm not that fond of it okay so i'm not that fond of all
01:48:41.000republican don't misunderstand but the reichert the judge in the ninth circuit
01:48:48.000wrote that that opinion which uh all he had to do is say we affirm what we've
01:48:56.000said before But he wanted to get his licks in, and he took a slap in his opinion at the Fifth Circuit Emerson case decision that you were talking about.
01:49:07.000And in his case, they went up to the Supremes.
01:49:44.000These things that, that they just turned the constitution on its head.
01:49:49.000I don't want this court considering the second amendment.
01:49:53.000And I was not pleased with the severe case because it was a real bad case technically to bring that case up.
01:50:02.000They, uh, the most people don't realize that, uh, Here you're dealing with a state law, and the state law in California is far worse even than the federal law.
01:50:19.000It's really nasty, and they're saying that that, quote, assault weapon law would have to be found, first of all, to be a violation of the Second Amendment and applicable to the states.
01:50:32.000See, the Second Amendment has never been held I understand.
01:50:36.000They can use the Tenth Amendment when they want to destroy our liberties, and then ignore the Tenth Amendment when they're federalizing.
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01:57:20.000I don't know what the whole solution is.
01:57:22.000I do know this, though, that a lot of those people that came into the U.S.
01:57:28.000out of Cuba and out of Mexico and out of Puerto Rico, San Salvador, where they didn't have the guns or else wanted guns, And they did not have them and did want them.
01:57:44.000Those people can be brought over to our side of the fence because they've seen the bad side.
01:57:52.000This is an area that I don't claim to be an expert in.
01:57:58.000I know a little bit about it because my stepmother's father Absolutely, but we don't have a government and a state government that will teach these people that.
01:58:09.000but he was a good citizen as we'd ever hoped to find.
01:58:16.000Absolutely, but we don't have a government and a state government that will teach these
01:58:24.000people that. Now they're filling them full of New World Order.
01:58:29.000I want to keep you with us another 15 minutes or so if you'd do that.
01:58:32.000I've got a bunch of other legislative questions for you, and we want to take some calls as well.
01:58:37.000We'll be back with Neal Knox in the third hour.
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02:00:28.000They stopped gun control during one of the biggest pushes ever.
02:00:31.000And he's been an outspoken critic of the compromisers at the NRA.
02:00:38.000And he's got a couple great magazines and a lot of great info at his website, neilknox.com.
02:00:43.000He has a real Second Amendment organization that I suggest folks support, Firearms Coalition.
02:00:50.000And I do want to go to some calls now, Mr. Knox, but then before you leave us, I do want to talk about the coalition and how people can get involved, perhaps even myself, because I support any real Second Amendment organization because that right is so important.
02:01:05.000In just a minute or so, what is the Second Amendment and why is it important?
02:01:14.000The Second Amendment is fundamental to Our other rights.
02:01:19.000It's the muscle behind the First Amendment.
02:01:25.000With the exception of the Middle East, which I don't begin to understand, there is no case of a totalitarian dictatorship that has existed where the people had the right to own firearms.
02:01:38.000Now there are places where we didn't yet have a dictatorship, but we've got a socialist government We've got total control of the people, even in England, where they have very restrictive laws and it's getting much worse very quickly.
02:01:55.000But it's an insurance policy for us to have that, and that's exactly why the Founding Fathers made sure that that pre-existing right continued to exist.
02:02:10.000Let's talk about, if you don't mind, before we jump to calls, Let's talk about a couple of things that people can do right now, things that are coming up that are positive, that are where we are on the offense.
02:02:26.000One of them is a section of, it was originally the Representative Todd Tearch's amendment to the Justice Department funding bill.
02:02:42.000The TRD Amendment was put into the Omnibus Crime Act, which is going to be the first item up when Senate gets back January 20.
02:02:54.000That has a block of reforms in there that Sarah Brady's screaming about, saying that's going to weaken the BATF.
02:03:02.000Parts of it, the very good, strong parts of that, We're knocked out in the conference committee by a Republican congressman who happens to be my congressman.
02:03:37.000Amendment would have stopped some of the foolishness that BATF has been doing that's really severe, but there's other things in it that are important to all gun owners.
02:03:49.000One thing about it is when they passed the so-called instant check, the law said that those records were to be destroyed.
02:03:57.000If I buy a gun or you buy a gun through a dealer that is supposed to be destroyed, and the intent was, I know it was their intent.
02:04:53.000Actually, I found a way to eliminate my mortgage without bankruptcy and without the need of going to court.
02:04:58.000And you too can do this legally, lawfully, ethically, and morally.
02:05:01.000But Jim, I signed a note promising to pay back the loan.
02:05:04.000Isn't it wrong even if I could discharge the loan?
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02:05:37.000Just the way it sounds and there's an S after mortgage.
02:10:09.000So if we can make that apply in the district, and there will be a knock-down-drag-out fight on this, if we can overturn that law by passing H.R.
02:10:22.0003193, it's going to greatly help our position When the time comes to apply the Second Amendment to the states.
02:10:30.000Now those two bills are up and moving, and those are things that people need to be looking at right now.
02:11:02.000I just wonder, when you bring up Tom DeLay, I sort of shake a little bit, because this man, from my understanding, you check this out, he voted for No Child Left Behind.
02:11:10.000This is the biggest educational mandate that we've ever had in the country.
02:11:15.000And it's going to work on the states, and there's a part of it, which I wish you would look at, H.R.
02:11:20.0001078, it's the American History and Civics Education Act.
02:11:24.000Mr. Bush is pushing this wildly, because it fits in with the goals of UNESCO, which he pushes into, which basically destroys the family.
02:11:32.000And the last message I got from the Education Department, they want the Children's Guard to be the education part, and grow the children's faith in the education of our country, not in their guard.
02:11:44.000They're running to my territory when they go to that.
02:11:48.0001078 would have children questioning their gun rights.
02:11:53.000So, you know, when you open up a big bandwagon, like with No Child Left Behind, and then you blame it on the Democrats later, when they go after all your gun rights, when you educate the children in it, and you use Tom DeLay and George Bush pushing it, and I'd like to say that I understand that he also redistricted, reset up Ron Paul's district, the best friend we have on this gun rights, and a lot of other things.
02:12:19.000who uh... make it harder for one called when i think you were jane appreciate
02:12:23.000the call what and that is to take the last thing she said they targeted senator bob smith got him out they said they're
02:12:28.000gonna go after tomtank readout this is republicans
02:12:31.000every written ron paul's district uh...
02:12:35.000why do we see the neocons in washington going after real conservatives neil
02:12:49.000not be loved of the people of paris He's not, he doesn't play the game with him, and this is why I love him.
02:12:57.000Back in 1970, no, in 1976, when Ron Paul was in Congress before, he was the only one that was standing up there trying to get the Congress to vote on killing this D.C.
02:13:12.000gunman that's been with us for these 30 years almost, and the one that we're trying to Knock out now.
02:14:34.000I understand where you're coming from, Alex, but I'm beginning to think that you're doing some good.
02:14:41.000I think you're actually getting through, and With your guests like Neil and more and more people like him are speaking out on your program and other programs, and I'm thinking the message is starting to get through a little bit that people are starting to wake up.
02:15:54.000I own six of the rifles that are on that ban list.
02:15:58.000Now, I have approximately 25 magazines for every one of those rifles, and the price of the magazines was fairly cheap.
02:16:05.000And from what I understand, there's like a 20-year supply still out there.
02:16:08.000So I can't understand why the law was passed in the first place.
02:16:12.000But I would like to see if, uh, Neal thinks the main battle will be in the Senate, because the House, uh, members are already leaning toward a no vote if DeLay's trying to block it.
02:16:24.000And the reason I ask this is I'm looking at an article dated 1604 saying that Senator Russ Feingold is now leaning against not voting for the ban.
02:18:12.000It's mostly been reporting on mainstream newspapers, things like the Drudge Report, saying that he supports it.
02:18:20.000Well, yeah, I mean, I have the thing that he's going to announce it in his meeting Monday with Fox, but everybody keeps saying he's going to announce it today.
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02:25:09.000Well, first of all, the only thing that an NRA voting member can do, such as this man, The only thing that he can do is to vote in the director elections and to support those of us who, on occasion, try to amend bylaws by mail.
02:25:32.000See, what happened in Cincinnati, we could, at that time, amend the bylaws at the annual meeting by a vote of the members.
02:25:40.000Powers that be in there, I put an end to that.
02:25:45.000It's very limited now, what a member can do.
02:25:49.000But that is the only thing I can say to do.
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02:27:32.000Here's why we can't give our guns to a gangster government.
02:27:34.000In Tennessee, three weeks ago, the Patriot Act and Homeland Security's TIPS program were used in a DUI case.
02:27:41.000The Wing Commander of the Air National Guard Base in Knoxville was stalked by the citizen-informant truck driver of the Highway Watch Program.
02:27:50.000The police declared that he had not been drinking and was not speeding, yet they arrested him and then forced him to take a fake blood alcohol test.
02:27:57.000The score was .38, but every DUI lawyer knows those tests cannot test for alcohol.
02:28:03.000So it was some kind of medical condition, but not diabetes, so maybe Gulf War vaccines.
02:28:10.000Uh, now this guy's been locked up in the loony bin rehab for three weeks, which is a psych ward like Rush Limbaugh.
02:28:16.000If he gets out, he will then be arrested, according to the sheriff on TV, and the D.A.
02:28:22.000can never drop charges against innocent people or they're going to get sued for false arrest.
02:28:26.000I'll tell you what, John, I'm going to put you on hold and talk about this after the break.
02:28:36.000What are some of the other contact points for you, or some of the info you're putting out?
02:28:40.000Well, I put out a newsletter called the Hardcore Report, and anyone that contributes to what I'm doing, and the main thing that Firearms Coalition is, it's a coalition of Groups around the country, the activist groups on the ground, that's where the real power of the gun lobby is.
02:29:02.000It's the people down there who cast the votes, who talk to their congressmen and to their state reps.
02:29:08.000Okay, how do folks get in touch with you and get the hardcore newsletter?
02:29:12.000Well, they can look on Webline and it's got the address there, but it's Post Office Box 3313 Manassas.
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02:32:57.000I'm not going to have any time to take any other calls after John in Tennessee because I want to get back into some of the main headlines and then some of the news we haven't gotten to yet here in the last 27, 26 minutes of this worldwide broadcast.
02:33:11.000John, you called in last week or two weeks ago about an Air Force officer who they grabbed and tested and said he was drunk and And that they were using the local tips program that's been implemented nationwide to the truck drivers.
02:33:27.000But really, if you email me the article, I missed it.
02:33:31.000But for those of us that don't know what's going on, can you explain this to us?
02:33:36.000John Keenan, he's the wing commander, the highest ranking commander at McGee-Tyson Airport, the 134th Air Refueling Wing, which is a Tennessee Air National Guard base.
02:33:47.000He commanded troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.
02:33:50.000Now he can't be trusted to drive the speed limit down the interstate.
02:33:54.000So, uh, you know, he was minding his own business.
02:33:57.000I don't know if this is the tips program or if they, uh, targeted him on the tips program with an informant because they reported an informant tracking down the highway and called police.
02:34:09.000Maybe he found a billion dollar pallet of heroin coming back from Afghanistan on his tankers.
02:34:42.000Yeah, they seized $130,000 cash, a $100,000 vehicle, and even though they admitted no crime was alleged or anything, so it's now illegal to drive across any state without crossing state lines while carrying over $3,000 cash.
02:35:01.000So crooked cops are loving this Patriot Act because they can seize anything and do anything, and on cops on TV they had a A cop arrested a guy because he held a brick and accused him of terrorism.
02:35:15.000As far as guns, I wanted to ask Mr. Knox if he knew about the Battle of Athens, Tennessee, where 100 World War II vets opened fire on a sheriff's jail to get the ballot boxes back.
02:35:26.000And the sheriff fled and Congress awarded the vets a big pat on the back.
02:35:31.000So guns can be useful in certain situations if you have to make a citizen's arrest.
02:35:36.000Which is what they did on the Christmas show.
02:35:38.000You know, I've read about that story, and that's a true story.
02:37:59.000There's three ways or four ways you can make an arrest.
02:38:02.000If they block one area, you go to the other.
02:38:03.000You can write a letter to the Grand Jury Foreman That's the answer!
02:38:10.000That's one of the... Go over the four ways, go ahead.
02:38:12.000Well, you can write a letter to the Grand Jury Foreman, you've got to find the address, and then just, you know, stealth, go in there and write the letter and get it to them however you can.
02:38:23.000Or you can go to what they call here a judicial commissioner, which is like a magistrate, and you're supposed to... the DA tries to vet the applications, but you don't have to go through that.
02:38:33.000You just need to do a full Detailed letter and affidavit where to the truthfulness.
02:38:40.000Use videotapes, use audiotapes, use photographs.
02:38:45.000Get your dates and times and witnesses down.
02:38:47.000And study the pattern jury instructions so you know what the elements are.
02:39:19.000They had to back off, but the cops were so funny because they were crying.
02:39:23.000They said, we're all going to be afraid of arresting anybody now.
02:39:25.000We're afraid to arrest anybody because they can follow Criminal charges, they should go to Internal Affairs first, which of course, like you said... Well, you can always file criminal charges.
02:39:34.000To say that people are above the law, when you're a public servant, you're even, you're under greater scrutiny.
02:39:40.000Well, most of them are breaking the law anyway, like traffic tickets or civil matters that they want you to plead guilty.
02:40:00.000They started in that cesspool that is New York City.
02:40:04.000Yeah, we could... I mean, big cities could have their front doors open.
02:40:09.000Big cities would have a sheriff with maybe 50 deputies.
02:40:14.000But we got more and more cops, we got more and more crime, more and more private prisons owned by the military industrial complex.
02:40:22.000And it's always, we need more, we need more, we need more!
02:40:25.000You got more to give you tickets, more to bust in your door, looking for drugs that the government shipped in to begin with, more to get you into their clutches and make you plea bargains so you can build widgets in some private prison.
02:40:39.000Alright, I want to go into the news here.
02:41:55.000And none of us are going to save the world by ourselves, but together we can affect change and You know, come out on the side of the good guys.
02:42:04.000And to that aim, if you want to do more than just talk about it, you want to have evidence, professionally produced evidence, documenting the long train of abuses and criminal activities of this global crime syndicate, and that's what it is, a big commission, a mafia commission, a syndicate, Instead of mafia captains over each city, it's globalist families over each country.
02:42:29.000They literally meet in their big committee of 300.
02:42:32.000They have their managers in the CFR and Trilateral Commission.
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02:45:04.000So not just legalize everybody that is here, Uh, but in addition, those outside the country waiting to work in the United States, wanting to work in the United States, would be able to sign into a computer system.
02:45:16.000Employers would first have to show the jobs cannot be filled by Americans.
02:45:20.000Oh, I'm sure the employers want to pay an American eight dollars.
02:45:23.000and i'll go get an illegal is now legal who uh...
02:45:26.000uh... who shun the types of menial labor jobs and immigrants take
02:45:30.000well-consumed rids of driven the wages down so cheap you can't live and pay
02:45:34.000your taxes on it you can't live in player taxes on four dollars an hour
02:45:38.000many people plan even look lower than that so big pay raise for mexico getting
02:45:43.000twenty five cents maybe an hour of their lucky and they all live you know
02:45:47.000ten fifteen to a little house and uh... don't pay the taxes
02:45:52.000and uh... it doesn't help them it doesn't help citizens doesn't help
02:45:55.000anybody but the big fat bankers so it doesn't just legalize everybody that's here or can
02:46:02.000ever get here it also helps people get here
02:46:05.000so uh... we also yesterday with james bovard
02:46:25.000He was in a... He refused to be at the baseball field out of view a third of a mile away with a fence around it for the designated free speech zone where no one could see any of the media.
02:46:40.000And the Secret Service told the police, and they're doing this everywhere, to arrest him.
02:47:45.000Magistrate Bristow Marchette acknowledged Bersie was not a threat to Bush during the President's October 24, 2002 visit to Columbia, but the judge dismissed Bersie's free speech defense and ruled the protester had no right to be as close to Bush as Bersie wanted to in his efforts to show That some South Carolinians oppose his plan to attack Iraq.
02:48:12.000Bush was pulling into the hotel, and people were being held back across the street.
02:48:18.000A bunch of frothing, gun-grabbing neocons who want open borders were worshipping him.
02:48:23.000Worshipping the growth of big government, and Mr. Bursey stood in the crowd with his sign that said, no blood for oil, and was singled out and arrested.
02:48:31.000Again, when President Bush travels around the United States, the Secret Service visits the location ahead of time and orders local police to set up free speech zones or protest zones where people opposed to Bush policies are quarantined.
02:48:45.000And it goes on to describe how they openly, they've got police interviewed here.
02:48:48.000They just walk over and say, okay, anybody with a sign against Bush, kick them out or arrest them.
02:49:12.000This is out of Netvisen TV, official TV in Norway.
02:49:17.000Sources at the German Intelligence Bureau claim that CIA misinformed them about the alleged planned terror action in Hamburg December 30th.
02:49:26.000Anwar al-Islam was accused of being behind the attempt.
02:49:29.000According to information provided to TV2 by German intelligence, they are convinced the CIA information was wrong, and they allegedly fear that American authorities planted the information.
02:49:42.000Oh no, they just plant fake letters from troops in newspapers saying how much they love the war.
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02:54:10.000China to drop martial law 15 years after Tiananmen crackdown report.
02:54:14.000China will strike the term martial law from its constitution during an upcoming legislative session 15 years after military crackdown on unarmed pro-democracy protesters.
02:54:24.000Oh, it's like Miami and Seattle in Tiananmen Square.
02:54:28.000According to the Oriental Outlook Weekly, the Constitutional Amendment will strip the strong committee of the National People's Congress of the power to declare martial law, and instead it empowered it to call a state of emergency.
02:54:42.000Like General Eberhardt, we're not going to have martial law, but we are in a state of emergency.
02:54:46.000Or Tommy Franks, well, martial law, but you know, it's kind of a good thing there.
02:54:52.000This is out of BBC, talking about civil emergencies.
02:54:57.000Civil Contingencies Bill gives UK government dictatorial powers.
02:55:03.000Planned new powers for dealing with a major terrorist attack and other big emergencies are unveiled on Wednesday.
02:55:10.000Ministers have already published drafts of the new laws, which were criticized by an influential committee of members of Parliament and peers for putting human rights at risk.
02:55:18.000They fear that unless the Civil Contingencies Bill contains suitable constraints, its powers could be abused by a future government.
02:55:25.000And it admits they can arrest people, put them in quote rest and relaxation camps, you name it.
02:55:32.000Civil rights campaigners want the new powers to be more strictly defined.
02:55:35.000The government published its draft legislation last June to give members of parliament and peers the chance to examine legislation before it was debated in parliament.
02:55:44.000The Queen's speech included a promise to put the plans in the law.
02:55:48.000Parliamentary committees set up to look at the plans said they had potentially dangerous flaws.
02:55:54.000The measures are aimed at shaking up legislation that dates back to the 20s, giving ministers all new powers they need to tackle a wide range of incidents ranging from foot and mouth to an attack on the internet.
02:56:06.000The draft plans include enabling the government to rush through temporary legislation without prior parliamentary approval, with authorities having new powers to declare a regional state of emergency.
02:56:16.000The police would get new powers to evacuate danger areas in the event of a catastrophic event.
02:56:22.000The definition of emergency would also be extended to encompass emergency situations affecting national security, human welfare, the environment, and potential political, administrative, or economic stability.
02:56:34.000And it goes on saying it's a dictatorship.
02:56:36.000But you know, dictatorships needed when the terrorists are attacking Blair, I'll take Britain into the Euro by 07.
02:56:47.000Despite the fact that 80 plus percent don't want to give up their sovereignty, it's going to happen.
02:56:52.000Tony Blair has set a stage for 07 to take Britain into the Euro, and wants the government to agree to public pledge to secure membership by that date.
02:57:01.000You're not going to have a vote now, referendum, we're just going to do it.
02:57:06.000Doesn't matter what you want, it's for your safety of course.
02:57:10.000Big surprise, Diana not pregnant at death, says Queen's man.
02:57:15.000The Queen's coroner went in there and dug the body up and says Princess Diana was not pregnant when she died.
02:57:21.000A former royal coroner says, apparently ruling out one of the rumors that was swirled around.
02:57:29.000Folks, she had told people she was pregnant.
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