Alex Jones Show - 20040109_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:23.000 Well, my friends, it's already Friday, the ninth day of 2004.

00:00:33.000 And we're going to be live for the next three hours.

00:00:35.000 Coming up in about 30 minutes, we have Glenn Spencer from American Patrol, the premier expert on the globalist plan to surrender to the new world order by getting rid of our borders.

00:00:47.000 Amnesty for all those that are here and anyone that ever gets here in perpetuity. 0.98

00:00:53.000 And then we've got Joel Skousen to talk about the latest developments with 9-11 and government-sponsored terror.

00:01:00.000 Of course, he's a former fighter pilot himself and will tell you how it's impossible for 19 hijackers to do what they did.

00:01:06.000 It'd be impossible for 19 fighter pilots to do it.

00:01:11.000 And then I've got Keith Parker from Texas Frontline coming on for 30 minutes and the third hour.

00:01:19.000 Got a popular local TV show, part of Ranch Rescue, that's been under attack.

00:01:23.000 Now to give you the Texas perspective on the end of the border and sovereignty.

00:01:28.000 In the last 30 minutes, the latest info on Saddam Hussein supposedly having cancer and some of his top minions being killed in U.S.

00:01:37.000 that is globalist custody.

00:01:39.000 we're just controlled by the parasite like we can't fall into the line at the window 0.62

00:02:14.000 I can hear someone knocking on the door.

00:02:19.000 There are voices in the street and the sound of running feet.

00:02:24.000 And they whisper the word, REVOLUTION.

00:02:30.000 There are men coming down from the valley.

00:02:35.000 There are tall ships flying off the coast.

00:02:41.000 And they carry the light in the dark of the night.

00:02:47.000 Like a whisper in the wind.

00:02:49.000 Evolution!

00:02:53.000 Bring my gun and a handful of silver.

00:02:59.000 By the sea we will gather for the fight.

00:03:04.000 It's been so many years, so many tears, we have lost once before, now we'll settle the score, when our cannons will

00:03:18.000 roar, revolution!

00:03:32.000 All right, folks, Alex Jones back live on When I got to the studio today I noticed the phone company was doing something with the different digital lines and there's no one from the phone company outside the office.

00:03:45.000 There's just a black wire strung running right along the side of my office.

00:03:50.000 So that's the connection up to Minnesota and the folks running the show and the satellite uplinks.

00:03:54.000 We'll see if we're able to have the show today and have Glenn Spencer on and To have Joel Skousen and Keith Parker and of course Paul Watson.

00:04:06.000 And if we keep having problems, I'm going to jump in the car and drive 80 miles an hour to the other studio.

00:04:12.000 This never happens once or twice a year and now it's happening and I'm beginning to think it's deliberate.

00:04:16.000 In fact, the British media caught it on tape about three years ago.

00:04:22.000 They were here in Austin and there were people that quote, didn't work for the phone company Continually in the big box down the road, every day when I went on the air.

00:04:32.000 So, one day I was running a song, I went on air, drove down and caught the guy in there.

00:04:37.000 Another time I had somebody walk up the side of the studio, and there was just a cut wire out there.

00:04:42.000 They just cut the digital line.

00:04:46.000 Oh, yeah, there's not a New World Order, folks.

00:04:49.000 There's no such thing as that.

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00:08:22.000 from the Hollywood stage, the Bush Ranch, I'm Alex Jones.

00:08:28.000 And again, we have Glenn Spencer from American Patrol to talk about Bush's high treason.

00:08:35.000 And the total capitulation to getting rid of our national sovereignty, that's what this is.

00:08:40.000 This giant, unlimited amnesty.

00:08:42.000 Then we have Joel Skousen to talk about September 11th, the latest developments in the police state.

00:08:48.000 Then we've got a local activist, good friend of mine, Keith Parker, host of a TV show, Texas Frontline, talking about the open border situation.

00:08:57.000 And the last 30 minutes of the show, Paul Joseph Watson with the latest developments on Princess Diana and a lot more.

00:09:07.000 Bush plans major space announcement.

00:09:09.000 Now, remember, he was going to announce this last month on the 100th anniversary of Kitty Hawk and the Wright Brothers, but for some reason didn't.

00:09:19.000 But now Bush to announce missions to Mars and the Moon.

00:09:23.000 Now, we already heard this once from the White House, so they may delay it again, but they're already making rumblings about it.

00:09:31.000 Also, Bush immigration plan borders on treason.

00:09:34.000 That's from Chuck Baldwin, one of our writers at PrisonPlanet.com, also a great talk show host in his own right.

00:09:40.000 It doesn't border on it, it is treason by the very definition, and we're all witnesses to it.

00:09:45.000 You've got to have two witnesses to treason.

00:09:47.000 We've got millions who saw that disgusting announcement he made two days ago.

00:09:52.000 White House wants U.N. 0.95

00:09:53.000 to return to Iraq.

00:09:55.000 Folks, I read The different news articles before the Iraq War, where it was all wink-wink with the United Nations.

00:10:04.000 We're going to go in, play the part of the bad cop, then you'll come in as the good cop later, and they'll thank you for occupation.

00:10:11.000 And that's exactly what they're now doing.

00:10:13.000 Again, Javier Solano, the former U.N.

00:10:17.000 chief, and then of course one of the chiefs there at the E.U.

00:10:20.000 is now one of their top ambassadors, said what about a month ago that, oh, I've already met with the White House officials, the E.U.

00:10:28.000 and the U.N.

00:10:28.000 will be taking over Iraq in the next year.

00:10:31.000 So we've got that.

00:10:32.000 Also, U.S.

00:10:33.000 military deaths in Iraq approach 500.

00:10:37.000 Chances of weapons of mass destruction find slipping.

00:10:40.000 Defense Minister Robert Hill says that.

00:10:43.000 Also, U.S.

00:10:44.000 military becoming desperate in Iraq.

00:10:47.000 Tactical evolution of tactical desperation, and the U.S.

00:10:52.000 begins huge Iraq forces switch.

00:10:54.000 They're rotating out a lot of the troops and rotating in new ones to breathe the 1,900 times safe levels of depleted uranium, and to have Shiites and Sunnis and everybody else taking hot shots at them, but hey! 0.79

00:11:07.000 You know, the President says, bring them on, you know, bring on the casualties.

00:11:13.000 Also, Powell says no smoking guns showing terrorist ties in Iraq.

00:11:17.000 But again, he always plays the good cop.

00:11:19.000 Later he'll come in and go, OK, it was true.

00:11:22.000 Here's the weapons of mass destruction.

00:11:24.000 I think that's still up their sleeve.

00:11:25.000 But don't worry, a man we can trust, a good person, about ten times last year came to Bush's aid in big television interviews saying he was right to invade Iraq, that there are weapons of mass destruction.

00:11:39.000 And this is somebody that never lies.

00:11:41.000 He's the guy that said I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky, and shook his finger at us.

00:11:46.000 And looked about as guilty as a cat with its arm in the fish tank.

00:11:53.000 He looked about as guilty as Bush when he said we will not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the September 11th attacks.

00:12:01.000 Yeah, you mean that your bosses did it?

00:12:04.000 Everybody's starting to find out about that, buddy.

00:12:06.000 You're in a lot of trouble.

00:12:07.000 But Clinton believes Iraq had weapons of mass destruction!

00:12:12.000 Yes, Clinton's out stumping for Bush again.

00:12:14.000 Hillary stumped for the war.

00:12:16.000 I told you, Democrats, if you like Bill Clinton, you should love George Bush.

00:12:21.000 Open borders, gun control, more regulation, biggest growth in government ever, signed on to UNESCO, supercomputers of communist China, doubled many of the program's funding for the Department of Education, Department of Transportation, The government has grown by 45% in the last three years.

00:12:38.000 It grew by 24% last year alone.

00:12:40.000 in the last three years. It grew by 24% last year alone. So the growth is accelerating.

00:12:47.000 The growth is accelerating.

00:12:52.000 I'm going to agree by what, 9% his first year?

00:12:55.000 I think they said 12 or 14%, I don't have the numbers in front of me, in 2000.

00:13:00.000 Folks, this is getting scary.

00:13:03.000 So a lot of the growth was when Clinton was leaving, then Bush comes in, it grows, and it grows even more.

00:13:08.000 The last three years, 40 plus percent growth in the size of the government.

00:13:13.000 Also, report Saddam Hussein has cancer!

00:13:18.000 Report, Saddam Hussein has cancer, and this was announced on some of the Asian television channels in Taiwan and other areas, and we did find a news article out of the Sophie Morning News.

00:13:30.000 Report, Saddam Hussein has cancer.

00:13:33.000 The al-Sadraki dictator, who is currently under custody with the coalition forces, suffers from cancer of lymph glands.

00:13:41.000 Oh, of course it's super fast and terminal.

00:13:44.000 Kuwaiti Al Na'ab Daily reads, citing an Iraq official, according to the Daily, the disease is in an advanced stage, so doctors predict the former dictator would probably live a couple of years more.

00:13:55.000 Doctors came out with the fatal diagnosis while making thorough medical checks of Saddam Hussein, and is captured near the hometown of Tikrit in December 2003.

00:14:05.000 Allegations of Saddam Hussein's illness appeared during the military campaign in Iraq last year, when one of his private doctors residing in Syria claimed that the former dictator suffered from cancer.

00:14:16.000 Oh, how convenient.

00:14:17.000 Just like in about a week and a half after the announcement Jack Ruby dropped dead from super-fast cancer.

00:14:23.000 Kind of like the Shah was fine and got flown into England and died real quick of that fast cancer. 0.86

00:14:29.000 But I'm sure he really does have it.

00:14:32.000 Yes, just a coincidence of course, of course it is.

00:14:36.000 Also, unofficial sources to Al-Bawaba, Saddam's presidential secretary, dies in U.S.

00:14:42.000 custody.

00:14:44.000 And there are many reports here of them killing people with electric shocks.

00:14:49.000 So powerful they're killing them, they're putting them into comas.

00:14:52.000 Hey, torture is in all the new dramas on TV. 0.50

00:14:55.000 It's chic.

00:14:56.000 It's like the latest hairstyle or clothing push.

00:15:03.000 It's just wonderful.

00:15:04.000 It's torture chic.

00:15:07.000 And it says Iraqi security officials contacted by Al-Bawaba declined to comment on the report but have not denied it either.

00:15:16.000 Al Tikriti was taken into custody on the 18th of June 2003.

00:15:22.000 Abeb Hammound was considered one of Saddam's closest aides and controlled access to the president.

00:15:28.000 He was said to have directed matters of state and handed down many of the Assad regime's orders.

00:15:34.000 Upon his capture, U.S.

00:15:35.000 authorities claimed Abeb Hammound possessed vital information about Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction.

00:15:42.000 Since his detention, reports in the Arabic press have claimed he was tortured by U.S.

00:15:47.000 investigators to pressure him to provide information on weapons development programs.

00:15:54.000 And this new photo released by Saddam, because it would be totally illegal to release a photo of a prisoner of war being beat up, so they accidentally released it.

00:16:03.000 Some soldier did, but everybody wanted to see it.

00:16:05.000 Saddam with a knee on his head and obvious pain down on the floor.

00:16:11.000 I had a phone company guy at my house the other day fixing one of the lines.

00:16:17.000 He saw my shirt and said, Axis of Evil with a picture of Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney.

00:16:22.000 He said, I'm glad they got Saddam. 1.00

00:16:24.000 I hope they feed him in a wood chipper.

00:16:28.000 I said, but wouldn't we become Saddam Hussein if we started feeding people into wood chippers? 1.00

00:16:33.000 By the way, that woodchipper story's not true.

00:16:35.000 The story about the babies in the incubator aren't true.

00:16:37.000 That's admitted, by the way.

00:16:39.000 A US PR firm just brought forward a fake witness and did that.

00:16:43.000 That's admitted, by the way.

00:16:46.000 So, I'm not defending Saddam Hussein.

00:16:48.000 He did brutal things.

00:16:49.000 He was trained in assassination torture from the age of 19 in 1954.

00:16:55.000 A very honored member of the New World Order.

00:16:58.000 Did a lot of good work for him.

00:17:01.000 There in Iraq, very bloodthirsty. 1.00

00:17:02.000 Attacked the Iranians under orders. 0.97

00:17:04.000 Went into Kuwait under the US saying, yeah, go ahead, we support you.

00:17:09.000 We're supposed to forget about all that, but the point here is, and it's very, very important that we understand this, is that most of what you're told about these guys is totally not true.

00:17:21.000 But, that doesn't seem to matter nowadays, does it?

00:17:25.000 I'm a liberal because I'm against open borders.

00:17:28.000 I'm a liberal because I'm for guns.

00:17:30.000 I would be a conservative if I wore a red armband and a Soviet Red Star on my cap.

00:17:37.000 And again, I'm not being sarcastic.

00:17:38.000 You know, if I had cut Taiwan loose, if I had changed a 53-year treaty with them, if I would have sold America out, I would be a wonderful person. 1.00

00:17:48.000 But I'm bad.

00:17:49.000 I'm for America.

00:17:50.000 And I'm for the facts, too, you know?

00:17:52.000 I'm not a hypocrite.

00:17:53.000 But again, that's a bad thing nowadays.

00:17:56.000 Southern Thailand's under martial law.

00:17:58.000 There's also a very scary development here.

00:18:01.000 You know, the U.N.' 's already basically running Canada's courts.

00:18:05.000 Well, now they are officially running the police and, yes, the courts in Guatemala.

00:18:14.000 Oh, but don't worry, the left's all behind it because it's to punish right-wingers.

00:18:18.000 Folks, it's all good cop, bad cop.

00:18:22.000 And they now are going to have their own little U.N.

00:18:27.000 communist-run, banker-funded, Inquisition in Guatemala.

00:18:34.000 The more things change, the more they stay the same.

00:18:37.000 But again, Southern Thailand under martial law, just as residents of Southern Thailand thought the New Year had come peacefully in spite of holiday terrorism alert, a series of coordinated terror attacks has prompted the government to impose martial law and has renewed fears of resurgent Islamic separatism in the region.

00:18:55.000 Now folks, in Thailand, in East Timor, which of course is a unit of this whole global system, a holding basically taken from Indonesia.

00:19:14.000 And in Indonesia proper, the government admittedly has been caught, over the last 50 years, blowing stuff up to blame it on their enemies and have crackdowns.

00:19:23.000 And the evidence is that's happening here again.

00:19:25.000 Al-Qaeda not behind Thai violence.

00:19:28.000 A wave of violence in mainly Muslim southern Thailand is inspired by money and nationalism and shows skin evidence that links to a wider network with some of Bin Laden's Al-Qaeda and it's Jehama Islamah, an Asian affiliate.

00:19:43.000 Folks, I haven't even scratched the surface here, and I want to get back into this Moon-Mars mission.

00:19:48.000 You thought it'd just be back to the Moon.

00:19:50.000 Well, now it's back to Mars.

00:19:51.000 We've never been there, so... I guess it's two Mars!

00:19:55.000 Back to the Moon!

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00:24:11.000 Again, we've got Spencer coming up about Bush's treason.

00:24:15.000 Imagine if Bill Clinton said all illegals will be legal in perpetuity, whoever's here, whoever gets here. 0.97

00:24:23.000 And then tried to say it's not amnesty, it's reform.

00:24:26.000 How the neocons would howl, but I've been listening to Last night I monitored while I was stuck in traffic through the TV studio and back. 0.73

00:24:36.000 I guess it was about an hour and a half in the car, I listened to a Hannity refeed, a Limbaugh refeed, some other stuff, and it was, yeah, this isn't too good, but he's just beating the Democrats, it's politics, man, he's cunning, and callers were calling in, going, yeah, actually, I gotta give it to Bush, this is a great idea, and I heard that idiot Clark Howard The financial guy, how wonderful this is and how good this will be for our economy. 0.67

00:25:04.000 Oh yeah, NAFTA and GATT and the 25 million illegals has been real good for the country. 1.00

00:25:09.000 Wages being driven down.

00:25:10.000 They talk about how they take jobs nobody wants.

00:25:12.000 It's because the illegals 5, 10 to a house or apartment, and folks believe me that's how it works, don't pay into the taxes, don't have the safety net, aren't invested, and What they do is they drive down the wages so no one who's part of the system or no one who is trying to be lower middle class can take those jobs and be successful. 0.94

00:25:40.000 And I've read the IMF World Bank plans.

00:25:41.000 I've read the Globalist documents.

00:25:43.000 I've read the Ford Foundation stuff that came out in the 70s in hearings about the big foundations.

00:25:49.000 The plan is to balkanize and turn America into a third world country and lower our standard of living. 0.95

00:25:54.000 That's what NAFTA and GATT and the EU and all of it's about.

00:25:57.000 I've heard them brag about it on NPR.

00:26:00.000 You know, we've got to lower our standard down to everybody else.

00:26:03.000 We've been living outside our means.

00:26:05.000 Yeah, we were living outside our means because it was a free country and it produced milk and honey. 0.70

00:26:10.000 Now the parasites of the elite have knocked down the gates to let the barbarians pour in to overflow and take over the middle class. 1.00

00:26:20.000 And Bush says it's for politics because the Hispanics want it. 0.99

00:26:23.000 The major polls, the vast majority of Hispanics are against it.

00:26:27.000 There are only a few poll points below blacks and whites.

00:26:32.000 And you know why? 1.00

00:26:32.000 Because they're not stupid. 1.00

00:26:35.000 They're smart. 0.99

00:26:37.000 I wish the yuppies were that smart.

00:26:38.000 They sit there and know that the illegals are working for three, four bucks an hour illegally. 0.83

00:26:42.000 They can't even get eight bucks.

00:26:46.000 It's unbelievable, folks.

00:26:48.000 But again, the spin is, ooh, great political move.

00:26:50.000 All the liberal papers, like the L.A.

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00:26:54.000 And you see, you've got a problem, folks, when the Democrats are praising Bush.

00:26:58.000 And like I said, Democrats, you should love Bush.

00:27:00.000 So Glenn Spencer's coming up.

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00:31:58.000 Some people know all about drinking and driving.

00:32:02.000 I I would often leave a bar and I remember going out to the car and I remember then winding up in bed at home, but I don't remember any of the middle, how I got there.

00:32:17.000 I know that at certain times I would simply use the center line as an aiming device with the ornament on the hood.

00:32:26.000 And just really aim the car, not actually seeing where I was going.

00:32:31.000 The real tragedy, of course, in a situation like that is not what you can do to yourself, but what you could do to someone who is either bicycling on the road or walking along the road.

00:32:44.000 In my case, I just simply often did not see them.

00:32:47.000 Some people don't decide how they're going to get home until they're incapable of making a responsible decision.

00:32:55.000 Are you one of them?

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00:33:05.000 I got a star on my car and one in my pocket It's not a country, a sovereign entity, unless it has borders.

00:33:14.000 the for the state on the highway patrol

00:33:27.000 a nation is not a nation is not a country

00:33:31.000 a sovereign entity unless it has borders i have lived my entire life in texas

00:33:37.000 my ancestors fought and died and are on the memorial

00:33:42.000 fighting the mexican dictator santa ana

00:33:48.000 And when you go to Mexico, if you look like you have money, in some of the tourist areas they leave you alone down south on the coast, but if you go down south over the Texas border, You'll be treated with hatred.

00:34:01.000 You'll be called names by the police. 0.99

00:34:04.000 They will rape your wife right in front of you. 1.00

00:34:06.000 They will beat you up. 1.00

00:34:08.000 They will take you to the jail.

00:34:09.000 They will extort hundreds of thousands of dollars out of you.

00:34:13.000 This is what they do.

00:34:14.000 In fact, almost everyone I know has been rousted, has been harried, has been fed on.

00:34:21.000 If you try to come to their country illegal, you're lucky if they don't kick your guts out. 1.00

00:34:25.000 But that's okay, that's loving and good.

00:34:27.000 You're not going to find the ACLU or the Southern Poverty Law Center going after the corrupt officials over there, or the narco-terrorists that the government controls. 0.95

00:34:39.000 No, it's not going to happen.

00:34:41.000 And we have over 25 million illegals in this country right now.

00:34:45.000 By the time they get their families here, it'll be 60 million.

00:34:48.000 We're talking in just the next few years.

00:34:51.000 California has fallen to this third world invasion.

00:34:55.000 We talk about Latin America all the time because that's 80% of the influx.

00:34:58.000 We've got the Russians, the Chinese, the Eastern Bloc, GM, Ford bring in the illegals who used to work in the Soviet weapons factories. 0.98

00:35:06.000 They now run and are in the majority of many plants building the cars here.

00:35:11.000 It's about the race to the bottom, sacrificing America on the altar of globalism.

00:35:15.000 And, you know, I've got the headlines here.

00:35:18.000 Bush actions border on treason.

00:35:20.000 No, they are treason.

00:35:21.000 Bun Spencer says it the best.

00:35:23.000 This is surrender to Mexico, but more than surrender to Mexico, to the UN and the globalist model where there are no borders, there is no sovereignty.

00:35:31.000 This is the Pan-American Union.

00:35:34.000 And there are hundreds and hundreds of millions of Latin Americans coming this way, tens of millions of new births each year.

00:35:41.000 Our government flies in the Somalis, flies in folks from all over the world to take jobs nobody wants. 1.00

00:35:50.000 Yeah, after people come in who will live ten to a house and drive down the wage, who are someone who's part of the system and pays taxes, can't afford it, you bet they don't want those jobs.

00:36:01.000 A meatpacker ten years ago got twenty bucks an hour, now they're lucky if they get seven or eight.

00:36:06.000 It's all illegals. 1.00

00:36:08.000 And it's not just the illegals, it's the prison labor we compete against.

00:36:11.000 So here to talk with us for the next 25 minutes about this high treason and how the neocons are trying to spin this, oh it's just political, is Glenn Spencer of AmericanPatrol.com, the premier organization, no compromise, telling it like it is.

00:36:29.000 Glenn, good to have you on.

00:36:30.000 Alex, good to talk to you again.

00:36:34.000 You know, we've been desensitized to this over the years, knowing that they were planning to... This isn't like the embassies of the past, where they just give amnesty to those that are here.

00:36:41.000 This is everybody in perpetuity.

00:36:44.000 But this is finally getting the dumbbells to wake up, but now the neocons, some of them, are trying to pacify them.

00:36:51.000 Give us the picture of what's going on.

00:36:55.000 Well, I think, you know, we saw it coming.

00:36:58.000 We saw the trial balloons drifting through the clouds.

00:37:03.000 Secretary of Homeland Security, Rich, a few weeks ago said that these people should be legalized.

00:37:10.000 We knew it was coming.

00:37:12.000 Actually, I knew it right after George Bush was elected.

00:37:17.000 When he said, we have to make, and this was in the newspapers, three years ago, this month, he said, we have to make migration safe and orderly.

00:37:28.000 When I read that, I knew we were all in trouble.

00:37:31.000 Since illegal immigration, It's already safe and orderly. 0.99

00:37:36.000 As I said at the time, he only could be talking about illegal immigration.

00:37:42.000 And that, at the time, three years ago, told me that George Bush was an open borders globalist, ready to sacrifice the country on the altar of globalism.

00:37:54.000 And I was right.

00:37:55.000 I've been warning the people about this.

00:37:57.000 Here it is.

00:37:58.000 President of the United States inviting Latino groups Principally Mexicans.

00:38:05.000 Into the White House.

00:38:07.000 Hundreds of them.

00:38:08.000 Into the White House, as he gave a speech day before yesterday, that he was essentially seeking to legalize all of these illegal aliens. 0.97

00:38:19.000 And then not only that, not only that, he said, we're going to reach out to the rest of the planet to match up willing employers with willing workers.

00:38:29.000 So the first is a general amnesty, and the second would turn america into a day labor center yeah it's gonna

00:38:39.000 get your t and destroying the middle class 0.95

00:38:41.000 Yes.

00:38:42.000 And again, they're saying they like the McCain bill.

00:38:46.000 That's all in there.

00:38:47.000 Bush, right before 9-11, had Fox at the White House saying, legalize all of them.

00:38:52.000 This plan's even bolder.

00:38:54.000 That's their answer.

00:38:55.000 Oh, you don't like the illegals?

00:38:56.000 Well, we'll just not make them illegal anymore.

00:38:58.000 And now they're going to set up these databases where they're going to import the people even faster.

00:39:07.000 And what we have been talking about, you and I have been talking about for years, is the Mexican conquest of the Southwest.

00:39:15.000 The conquest of Aztlan.

00:39:17.000 And their presidents say that.

00:39:19.000 Now, yes.

00:39:20.000 And if you don't believe it, here he is, here is the president of Mexico, saying just that.

00:39:28.000 I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders

00:39:38.000 and that Mexican migrants are an important, a very important part of it.

00:39:44.000 That was then President Ernesto Zedillo of Mexico, 1997, speaking in Chicago

00:39:52.000 before the National Council of La Raza, saying, I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation

00:39:59.000 extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important,

00:40:02.000 And that Mexican migrants are an important, a very important part of it.

00:40:06.000 Now Glenn, on top of this now, Mexico says they're going to send all their lobbyists in, to twist arms to do whatever to get Congress to do that, meddling in our internal affairs, firing lobbyists saying, get rid of your border, that is spies, that's KGB equivalent, but again it's hidden in plain view of foreign government.

00:40:26.000 Fox, when he came to Austin, when I bullhorned him and Shut down his press conference and speech a few months ago, gave an award to the police department for not following the federal law.

00:40:36.000 He said it, and gave an award to Wells Fargo, who is going to give them a national ID card that the banks and government are going to accept.

00:40:43.000 Now we've got banks issuing them ID cards, not just their own consulates in our country.

00:40:48.000 Imagine if you and I went down and tried to start a consulate in Mexico issuing Americans ID cards.

00:40:54.000 There's no question about it.

00:40:57.000 And not only that.

00:40:58.000 But what we have to understand, you know, we've been talking about this, but I was amazed that just a few seconds ago that popped up on the Internet is an article out of the New York Times International out of Mexico City.

00:41:15.000 And the headline of this article in the New York Times says, of gringos and old grudges, this land is their land.

00:41:24.000 And it goes in.

00:41:26.000 It says, in the United States, almost no one remembers the war that Americans fought against Mexico more than 150 years ago.

00:41:34.000 In Mexico, almost no one has forgotten.

00:41:38.000 They're saying in this New York Times article that the Mexicans believe this is their land.

00:41:44.000 Now, how crazy can it be that when the President of the United States brings in a group of people Who believe that the Southwest belongs to them.

00:41:56.000 And a Zogby poll of a year and a half ago proved it beyond shadow of a doubt.

00:42:02.000 Brings in a group of people who believe that part of the United States belongs to them.

00:42:07.000 And essentially says, you got it!

00:42:10.000 And it brings in people who are hostile to us.

00:42:14.000 Who believe this is their territory.

00:42:16.000 That we stole it from them.

00:42:17.000 He brings these people into our midst!

00:42:23.000 Now, Glenn, the neocons will say, OK, we don't like what Bush is doing, but it's just politics, leave him alone.

00:42:32.000 They won't go as far as stating the facts.

00:42:35.000 I live in Texas.

00:42:37.000 And, you know, they got, you know, the signs up that say, race this, race that, Raza this, Raza that.

00:42:43.000 You know, on the side of a Mexican food restaurant, an Aztec cutting out a white guy's heart. 0.66

00:42:46.000 You know, this is all real cute. 0.96

00:42:48.000 How about I go paint, you know, a Nazi cutting a brown person's heart out? 0.97

00:42:52.000 No, I wouldn't do that. 0.98

00:42:53.000 That's bad.

00:42:53.000 But again, this is acceptable.

00:42:56.000 To break up the country, the globalists are doing it, Bush is doing it, in perpetuity, and again, if anybody, and you work with Native Americans, that's how you started out, if anybody owns this land, it's Native Americans, Mexico didn't have anybody up here, and why would the Mexicans want to make this Mexico where they live in total tyranny? 0.89

00:43:16.000 They have absolutely no claim on this land.

00:43:18.000 Texas had become part of the Union for nine years.

00:43:21.000 That's why we fought the war of 1846 to 1848.

00:43:26.000 California originally was settled by Native Americans, who were referred to in the Treaty of Guadalupe that settled the war with Mexico as savages.

00:43:39.000 Mexicans never had any claim. 1.00

00:43:41.000 The Aztecs were never in that part of the country.

00:43:44.000 So that's all nonsense.

00:43:46.000 Well, my point is, Glenn, if Mexico's so good, why do they all want to come up here? 1.00

00:43:52.000 Well, the reason I'll tell you why they want to come up here is because their government is forcing them to come up here.

00:43:57.000 Basically, what this is a fight over is this.

00:44:00.000 Mexico is afraid that if they opened up their country to investment the way the United States is open to investment, that the gringos and others would eventually own everything. 0.99

00:44:11.000 And they're probably right.

00:44:14.000 So they don't want that.

00:44:15.000 So they restrict investment.

00:44:17.000 So what you've got is a tiny elite filling the peasants full of race consciousness, racism to control them, but the question is, why are the New York banks funding this Chicano Ku Klux Klan movement? 0.69

00:44:29.000 But let me finish the little point that I wanted to make.

00:44:33.000 So if Mexico were to be opened up to foreign investment, it would prosper.

00:44:38.000 They have natural resources.

00:44:40.000 They have oil.

00:44:41.000 They have beautiful beaches.

00:44:43.000 They have terrific natural resources, and if they were to be opened up to outside investment, they would prosper and they would not have illegal immigration.

00:44:54.000 But by closing Mexico down to outside investment, they gain two things.

00:44:59.000 These powerful families can run the country, plus they can send their people north, thereby occupying, reoccupying, or occupying the southwest.

00:45:12.000 Thereby, instead of us taking over them, they take over us.

00:45:16.000 That's the battle.

00:45:17.000 That's the war we are still in.

00:45:20.000 We're still in the Mexican War.

00:45:21.000 We're still involved in it.

00:45:23.000 But this time, instead of the American presidents and the people who lead this country fighting for our country, they are absolutely caving in and surrendering.

00:45:32.000 And for those that don't understand what Glenn's saying, it's all documented.

00:45:35.000 That's why they gave Mexicans dual citizenship, so they can vote on both sides.

00:45:39.000 They can send their people over, make them citizens, take over already four South Texas towns. 0.87

00:45:45.000 This is about a five-year-old story.

00:45:47.000 San Antonio Express News, 10-part story.

00:45:50.000 Fly the Mexican flag, you're not allowed to speak English in court proceedings, and nobody cares about that discrimination.

00:45:55.000 You're going to have the same corrupt cops, the same system, the shakedowns, the Mordido, all of it. 0.98

00:46:01.000 Absolutely.

00:46:02.000 You know, 1994, 2004 is the 10 year anniversary of NAFTA.

00:46:08.000 And in a survey, an analysis of the results of NAFTA, which we of course opposed, The World Bank!

00:46:15.000 The World Bank!

00:46:17.000 This is a middle-of-the-road, if not left-leaning organization. 0.79

00:46:22.000 The reason that NAFTA hasn't worked in Mexico is because it's so corrupt!

00:46:28.000 And this they say in public official documents. 0.99

00:46:32.000 And Mexico is corrupt. 1.00

00:46:33.000 It is a corrupt nation. 1.00

00:46:36.000 And it's like a cancer spreading north.

00:46:39.000 But Glenn, you didn't really answer my question, and you're the guy that's got the answers on this.

00:46:44.000 Why do a lot of the Mexican people, I'm not talking about citizens here, they're more aware than anybody, why do they, if they know their government's oppressive, want to shut up Mexico here and have nowhere to run?

00:46:58.000 Well, it's an interesting question.

00:47:00.000 And the only answer that I could come to was addressed in Andres Oppenheimer's book, They're bordering on chaos.

00:47:10.000 And that is, Mexico has never had immigration.

00:47:13.000 They've never been a melting pot.

00:47:15.000 They've never brought in new ideas.

00:47:17.000 And the one thing that ties the Mexicans together, that makes the Mexicans, is a common history.

00:47:24.000 And they say, once a Mexican, always a Mexican. 0.78

00:47:28.000 And one of the aspects of that history that stands out like nothing else is the war with the United States.

00:47:35.000 In essence, what they want to do is regain the glory of Mexico and regain the glory of their ancestors by reversing the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and making this the great and glorious Mexico that they think it should be.

00:47:51.000 But Spain just came in as an empire, took over some Indians, claimed some land.

00:47:56.000 France claimed parts of Texas.

00:47:58.000 France isn't saying this belongs to them.

00:48:00.000 Well, France ran Mexico for a while, you know. 0.54

00:48:03.000 But the French Emirs ran Mexico for a while. 0.82

00:48:07.000 You know, remember Cinco de Mayo was just a little skirmish.

00:48:12.000 They ultimately lost that war and lost it to the French.

00:48:17.000 Did you know that they allow Cinco de Mayo to be officially celebrated at UT but not the Texas Independence Day?

00:48:24.000 It's evil, they didn't allow it.

00:48:26.000 Absolutely.

00:48:29.000 This is the kind of insanity That took over Nazi Germany, except in reverse. 0.83

00:48:36.000 But if you want to destroy America, I mean, you know, it's a bunch of rich guys in New York and D.C.

00:48:43.000 Why do they want to do this?

00:48:44.000 To make us all serfs, I guess?

00:48:46.000 Well, you know, it's sort of imperialism.

00:48:48.000 People want to run the globe.

00:48:49.000 There's a lot of different motivations which are aligned like the stars to turn us into this mess that we're in.

00:48:57.000 But now that the debate is out in the open, now that the President has made this outrageous move, the media are forced to address it! 0.98

00:49:06.000 Now, the stupid thing that Bush did was to open this wound only days before he's going to go to Mexico, reopen it, and put salt in it! 0.72

00:49:17.000 So he's going to be in Mexico on Monday, and that's why, you know, basically, if I may say this, what Karl Rove has told the President, he's his political advisor, he says, All of the Democratic candidates are for amnesty. 0.99

00:49:29.000 Full amnesty.

00:49:31.000 So, you know, if you come out in favor of a so-called partial amnesty and help get the Hispanic vote, this is what Rove told him, the people have no place to go.

00:49:41.000 You know, conservatives, what are they going to do?

00:49:44.000 Vote for a Democrat?

00:49:45.000 There is no third party candidate this time.

00:49:47.000 They have no place to go.

00:49:49.000 So you can do anything you want.

00:49:52.000 So what, you know, the idea came forth that maybe since they're telling us we have no place to go, and when Bush goes to Mexico, we should go no place.

00:50:01.000 And that is, on Monday the 12th, we and other people are asking Americans not to buy anything.

00:50:08.000 Okay?

00:50:08.000 This isn't a long boycott.

00:50:10.000 It's just on Monday.

00:50:11.000 Don't buy anything.

00:50:12.000 Don't go to the store.

00:50:13.000 Do your shopping on Sunday or Tuesday, but just don't buy anything.

00:50:18.000 Don't go to the restaurant, don't go to the market, don't go to the movie.

00:50:20.000 I want to add, too, that that's the spin the neocons are putting out.

00:50:24.000 This is just political.

00:50:25.000 I've looked at the plan, you've looked at it.

00:50:26.000 As you said, total, complete, in perpetuity, amnesty, instantly, and bringing them in from other countries. 0.99

00:50:34.000 This has totally demoralized the Border Patrol.

00:50:39.000 Border Patrol people are saying, why do I even want to stop these people?

00:50:43.000 Well, hey, making them pick up trash the last three years has done it.

00:50:47.000 Why should I even go out to the border and risk my life, okay, out there with rattlesnakes and so forth, to stop these people when the President doesn't even want us to?

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00:54:02.000 This is the equivalent of a triter king, but again Bush is just a puppet. 0.82

00:54:13.000 Blasting holes in the wall and enemies pouring in, that's not enough.

00:54:17.000 He runs down and opens the drawbridge and tells the people inside the city, stand down.

00:54:24.000 The people running through screaming that they want our heads or our friends.

00:54:28.000 Mexico says they're going to take over, says they're going to do all this, and they've got the big banks in New York pushing all this.

00:54:34.000 Glenn Spencer, it's a great idea to not buy anything, to send a message on Monday, I will not do that, I'll be part of that big boycott.

00:54:40.000 Everybody out there should remember this and do this.

00:54:42.000 Yeah, just don't buy anything, just do it on Sunday and Monday.

00:54:45.000 It's not going to hurt anybody, it's all it'll do.

00:54:47.000 If we can get enough people to do it, just send a message.

00:54:51.000 You know, people say, hey, wait a minute, where is everybody?

00:54:53.000 It's not going to hurt anybody's pocketbook!

00:55:19.000 It's not going Now, we've been embarrassing the people down here.

00:55:22.000 What was it?

00:55:23.000 Last Friday night, one of our sensors went off.

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00:55:27.000 We went out with our infrared camera and videotaped ten people, just what our ground sensor said, coming into the United States.

00:55:36.000 They came within eight feet of our camera before they saw the little red light.

00:55:40.000 You can go on AmericanBorderPatrol.com and see the streaming video and listen to the report.

00:55:45.000 We're doing that more and more.

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00:55:53.000 We think we've shut down about three miles of the border because the Border Patrol doesn't want to be embarrassed.

00:55:59.000 With more money, we'll make that 10 miles, and then 50 miles, and then 100 miles.

00:56:04.000 Now, Glenn, that's a great idea, and you're doing a wonderful job, but look, if Bush gets his way, we're not even going to have a Border Patrol anymore.

00:56:12.000 Well, he says we've got to have a Border Patrol, but what we have to show the American people is that it is a joke, it is a sham that people are flooding across. 0.97

00:56:24.000 It's like Bill O'Reilly said last night, my gosh, If we do this and don't control the border in 10 years, we will not recognize this country.

00:56:33.000 In 10 years!

00:56:34.000 I mean, this is not a long time!

00:56:37.000 This is back to 1994.

00:56:39.000 Paul Craig Roberts, the famous author, with the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, went on the air the other day.

00:56:48.000 I mean, he's one of the most highly respected economists on the planet!

00:56:53.000 He said, in 20 years, America We'll be a third world country.

00:57:00.000 I think sooner than that.

00:57:01.000 I mean, we're going to be like Mexico. 0.97

00:57:03.000 Our dollars are going to drop down to below the peso.

00:57:07.000 You know, people forget that we've got about 9,000 nuclear weapons.

00:57:12.000 If we're taken over by the third world, they're going to own them! 1.00

00:57:18.000 It's absolutely incredible.

00:57:20.000 They're really doing it.

00:57:21.000 The globalists are killing America.

00:57:23.000 They'll destroy the planet because if these people come in, And take over the political structure of this country, and get control of those nuclear weapons, the planet will be destroyed! 0.73

00:57:37.000 Uh, Glenn, they've been shooting a lot of Border Patrol, killing a lot of people, the attacks, Ranch Rescue got shot at, it's getting bad, uh, you know, you talk about war in the streets, Ron Paul's talking about depression, uh, what do you see happening?

00:57:52.000 Well, as I say, if we don't do anything, The third world will take over this country faster than we realize. 1.00

00:58:00.000 They will come in, get the vote, put their people in, we will become destabilized, and the planet will be destroyed.

00:58:09.000 Okay?

00:58:09.000 Very quickly.

00:58:11.000 Now, short of that, short of that, you know, the people have to put up resistance.

00:58:16.000 They have to do it now.

00:58:17.000 This is not a drill.

00:58:19.000 This is the real thing.

00:58:20.000 This is the real country of the United States at stake.

00:58:23.000 And they don't only have to scream at their congressman, they have to run for office!

00:58:28.000 They have to stand up and say, I'm going to run for Congress, and I'm going to be running on a platform of closing the border.

00:58:33.000 I'm going to run for Chief of Police, and I'm going to run on the platform of... Alright, Glenn Spencer, thank you for your amazing work at AmericanPatrol.com.

00:58:42.000 Alright.

00:58:43.000 Hope folks visit it, hope to have you back on soon.

00:58:45.000 Thanks a lot.

00:58:45.000 You bet.

00:58:46.000 We'll be back, folks.

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01:00:01.000 You want answers?

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01:00:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:15.000 American Patrol just joined us and he's read the McCain bill and what Bush is pushing and his analysis is exactly on line with mine.

01:00:24.000 Blanket total amnesty for everyone here, anyone that ever gets here in perpetuity, and the federal government allowing corporations to pay to bring in their own labor forces Just, you know, no more of the special visas, just wide open, importing in the third world. 1.00

01:00:42.000 Six plus billion people, all wanting to come here.

01:00:46.000 They'll all come in, become citizens, pull the lever for gun control, pull the lever for tyranny. 0.69

01:00:51.000 They're used to cops shoving them around. 1.00

01:00:53.000 They're used to tyranny.

01:00:56.000 This is the globalist plan.

01:00:57.000 You're watching America die.

01:00:59.000 You're watching the government lower the shields, lower the drawbridge, And let the barbarians in by design to destroy America, then you'll have your EU and your New World Order. 0.98

01:01:11.000 And a lot of the neocons are making excuses for Bush.

01:01:13.000 Oh, he's just being political.

01:01:16.000 Folks, it's politically unpopular to do what he's doing in all the major polls.

01:01:20.000 The majority of Hispanics are against this.

01:01:23.000 They try to make it a racial issue, that is Bush does.

01:01:25.000 There is so much news.

01:01:27.000 We're joined by Joel Skousen.

01:01:29.000 Joel Skousen is a political scientist by training, specializing in philosophy and law and constitutional theory.

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01:01:49.000 And we're honored to have Joel Skousen on the show.

01:01:53.000 The website's joelskousen.com.

01:01:56.000 Talk about 9-11, the police state, the New World Order, the open borders, all of it.

01:02:00.000 Joel, good to have you on.

01:02:02.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:02:02.000 It's always good to be with you.

01:02:04.000 Let me get your take on the getting rid of the borders.

01:02:07.000 Well, I just wrote my latest world affairs brief coming out today called Amnesty by Stealth.

01:02:14.000 And it really isn't very stealthy, frankly, as you pointed out.

01:02:18.000 This is a very interesting case in the sense that even pragmatic Karl Rove, Bush's chief political adviser, gave strong warning to Bush that this is a dead political issue unless you call it by some other name.

01:02:39.000 And that's what went on in the White House.

01:02:41.000 They said, Yeah, we won't call this amnesty.

01:02:46.000 We'll just call it, you know, a temporary worker program.

01:02:49.000 But it's amnesty, whatever name you want to call it.

01:02:52.000 Well, it's the boldest amnesty ever seen.

01:02:55.000 The way this is written, it's not just who's here, it's whoever gets here.

01:02:59.000 Exactly.

01:03:00.000 It's an ongoing program.

01:03:02.000 For example, let me show you what... You know, he says, or at least the AP who commented and gave the government line said, this is supposed to tell the United States And get a handle on who's crossing the border.

01:03:15.000 Well, it doesn't do anything at all, except for those that are illegal.

01:03:18.000 Now, yes, they'll be on the rolls, and they can go pass freely.

01:03:22.000 But when you have a huge magnet like this, you're going to have tons more coming across the border, because they know all they've got to do is get a job, run down to the local INS, sign up for the Temporary Worker Program, and they're in scot-free.

01:03:34.000 And it's not temporary.

01:03:35.000 After three years, they automatically reissue it.

01:03:39.000 Yes, there's another aspect of that, too.

01:03:42.000 Bush is attempting to at least double the number of green cards that are going to be allowed.

01:03:49.000 They will be immediately eligible to apply for a green card as soon as they sign on to this temporary worker program.

01:03:57.000 So this is a seamless amnesty.

01:04:00.000 It's just a play on words.

01:04:02.000 But, you know, this shouldn't surprise us, as you know.

01:04:06.000 At least three months ago, Bush says he was going to push another amnesty, and it just got so much flack that he's had to rename it.

01:04:14.000 In fact, he had the audacity to say when he announced this, this is not an amnesty.

01:04:19.000 I mean, it's like the bigger the lie, the more effective it is, and conservatives are nodding their heads.

01:04:26.000 Yeah, Joel, Joel, this is not a radio show.

01:04:30.000 This is not a radio show, and you're not Joel Skelton, and I'm not Alex Jones, okay?

01:04:35.000 Hey, what are you, a conspiracy theorist?

01:04:36.000 Your name's not Joel, okay?

01:04:39.000 All right, we'll be back.

01:04:41.000 We'll get into 9-11 and a lot more.

01:04:44.000 There's so much happening.

01:04:45.000 I want to get your take, too, on this new moon mission and Mars mission.

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01:08:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:14.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen, already eight minutes and roughly 30 seconds into the second hour.

01:08:22.000 We're joined by Joel Skousen, a political scientist, expert in law and constitutional theory.

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01:08:50.000 For two years, he published a newsletter entitled, The World Affairs Brief, and served as a Senior Editor of Cogitations, a quarterly journal on law and government.

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01:09:09.000 And we'll spell that out for you a little bit later.

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01:09:16.000 Joel, we were talking about the border and talking about the end of America.

01:09:20.000 Why would the globalists want to do this?

01:09:22.000 But for those that just joined us, first off, what is the New World Order?

01:09:26.000 What is globalism?

01:09:27.000 And what will life be like once we get deeper into it?

01:09:32.000 Well, that's a big package of questions there.

01:09:35.000 Which do you want me to take first, Alex?

01:09:37.000 Take all three of them.

01:09:37.000 They're all interconnected.

01:09:40.000 Well, let's finish up the border issue before we go into the broader New World Order issues, because I think this is very crucial for people to understand the tactics that they're going to use.

01:09:51.000 You know, there's been a lot of hoopla about Homeland Security and Bush saying he's going to protect us, but there has been virtually no proposal whatsoever from this administration To close this border.

01:10:03.000 Now, they don't intend to, in my opinion.

01:10:06.000 What they do intend to do is continue to play the game of rhetoric.

01:10:10.000 Conservatives are particularly susceptible to this concept.

01:10:14.000 Give them a little bit of a promise, and they'll give you another three years until they finally start to say, hey, he never fulfilled that.

01:10:19.000 Let's press him again.

01:10:20.000 Then they give him another promise.

01:10:22.000 And pretty soon, eight or ten more years have passed with open borders, and all of a sudden, And I'm predicting this, that within 10 years, our Mexican-American, you know, will be such a large percentage. 0.99

01:10:35.000 They may not be a majority yet of this country, but virtually it will become impossible for any politician to get elected without kowtowing to that Latino minority, big minority. 1.00

01:10:48.000 They're already, of course, the biggest minority in the country.

01:10:51.000 And I think that's what the strategy is, is you want to continue to placate Harass, discuss, ad infinitum, until it's too late.

01:11:02.000 And I think Americans really need to draw a line on this proposal.

01:11:06.000 I know it's slick.

01:11:08.000 It's difficult to convince conservatives that this is really a ruse, because he says all the right words.

01:11:15.000 But believe me, if we don't quickly stop this, I don't think, you know, California may not even have a chance.

01:11:21.000 They've resurrected Proposition 187 to try to cut off benefits, although they've Stop trying to cut off the public school benefits.

01:11:29.000 That's a sacred cow now. 0.96

01:11:31.000 But I think within three or four more years, even California won't be able to pass an anti-immigration law of any sort, just because of the massive amount of influx of people.

01:11:42.000 I brought this question up to Glenn Spencer.

01:11:47.000 I mean, in the polls, the majority of Hispanics are against open borders, but the media frames it like it's something Hispanics want.

01:11:54.000 Oh, this is a good thing.

01:11:56.000 Of course, we always talk about Hispanics. 0.69

01:11:57.000 That's the majority of the illegals pouring in from Latin America.

01:12:00.000 Bush's deal will bring them in from all over the planet.

01:12:02.000 It doesn't matter.

01:12:04.000 How can somebody from Mexico want to make this like Mexico when they're trying to leave Mexico? 0.99

01:12:10.000 I mean, I guess it's just a pride issue of, well, maybe I'll be rich once we enslave these people.

01:12:18.000 Maybe that's the idea, kind of replicating that.

01:12:21.000 Maybe they can be the big bosses over slaves like they've done in Mexico. 0.85

01:12:27.000 Well, you know, I really don't think, you know, I'm fluent in Spanish, I know a lot of Mexican people, a lot of friends who have come across and become very good people here, and even fairly conservative, those that make some money become conservative, although they're hooked into the Republican image of conservatism, where it isn't truly protective of liberty anymore.

01:12:49.000 They really don't have a predatory instinct.

01:12:51.000 There are groups that do, of course, and you've talked about them, Spencer's talked about that, but these are mostly, I think, front groups for the globalist agenda, or there are some that are still working with the latent Marxist movement that's still under the surface here in the united states. Yeah, that's metro la raza,

01:13:12.000 exactly, it's a front, it's a new york madison avenue front of

01:13:16.000 the hispanics want open borders and it's all being run out of new york because the mexicans i've talked to aren't into 1.00

01:13:23.000 this whole larica and kista deal, so this is quite a setup. I think so,

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01:13:43.000 administration.

01:13:44.000 They have a regular roundtable where they discuss strategy about how to get through these pro-Mexican pieces of legislation across the American people.

01:13:53.000 And what they, and I'm embarrassed to say, living in Utah now, that they have a real yes-man congressional delegation, I mean, super patriotic, Pro-Republican delegation here in Utah that literally is used to carry water for this administration on every one of these pro-Mexican initiatives.

01:14:14.000 Well, Hatch wants Arnold to be able to be president, he said.

01:14:17.000 They want to be able to have a foreigner, foreign-born, be the president.

01:14:22.000 Yeah, you know, when this first came out, and I thought Hatch, and I know Senator Hatch, and whenever I talk to him, he says, oh, I'm just so busy, I just can't take any more projects on.

01:14:33.000 I keep trying to get him to do what's right as a long-term friend of the family, but he's clearly sold out to the other side.

01:14:41.000 You know, when he brought up this constitutional amendment about changing, I said, you know, there isn't any constituency for this.

01:14:47.000 Where do you get this?

01:14:48.000 You know, and of course, the administration wants it.

01:14:51.000 He's just carrying water.

01:14:52.000 This man has been promised, I believe, a seat on the Supreme Court if he continues to I don't know if they'll betray him like they did over the promise to run for president.

01:15:07.000 They let him run against George Bush, he didn't have a chance.

01:15:09.000 It was just a joke here in Utah to see Orrin Hatch going through the motions of trying to get the powers that be to fulfill his promise to him.

01:15:17.000 He still is faithful to them.

01:15:20.000 It's a real shame.

01:15:21.000 Absolutely.

01:15:22.000 Now, for those that just joined us, I don't want to get into 9-11 and fighter pilots' view on this and some of the evidence of what you think is coming up with new terror attacks, but for those that just joined us, what is the New World Order?

01:15:33.000 Well, the New World Order is, to be very, very frank, it is a globalist conspiracy to take down national sovereignty at any nation who wants to defend it.

01:15:46.000 Put all nations into a member state category.

01:15:51.000 They'll still be given the token title of sovereign states, but they won't be sovereign any more than states are sovereign in the federal framework of the United States Constitution.

01:16:01.000 And the process of the New World Order is, in fact, one of attempting to slowly talk people into losing their sovereignty.

01:16:13.000 And eventually, if that doesn't work, to create A future world war that will force people into it.

01:16:21.000 And I think that's what we're headed for sometime toward the end of this decade.

01:16:25.000 I agree with you.

01:16:26.000 Ron Paul says we're going to have a depression.

01:16:29.000 Bush passed much of Patriot Act 3 a few weeks ago.

01:16:32.000 Patriot Act 2 a few weeks ago.

01:16:36.000 And now there's discussions of the Victory Act 2, which is really Patriot Act 3.

01:16:41.000 I mean, Joel, I listened to a bunch of neocon talk radio yesterday, and it was, well, Bush, this is kind of bad, but he can't help it, and well, you wouldn't rather have the Democrats, would you?

01:16:52.000 Well, yeah, I mean, under Bill Clinton, he couldn't get away with this, because conservatives were awake and aware!

01:16:57.000 George Bush, bigger government, open borders, says he'll sign the assault weapons ban, campaign finance reform, protecting Bill Clinton, signing on to UNESCO.

01:17:06.000 I mean, you talk about water bears.

01:17:08.000 I mean, you know, what do you have to say about all these Rush Limbaughs? 1.00

01:17:12.000 You know, what's really interesting about the comments I get from conservatives in response to my newsletter each week is that, well, you know, Bush is anti-UN.

01:17:23.000 You know, he's really done us a great service, and it's not true at all.

01:17:27.000 You know, it's a very sophisticated game Bush is playing.

01:17:32.000 It's a very sophisticated strategy, and it's very difficult for many people to understand it, but let me see if I can't explain it.

01:17:39.000 Essentially, Bush has to do two things simultaneously.

01:17:43.000 He has to, first of all, antagonize the world against the United States in order to someday force people to switch their allegiance to the United States defending democracy, quote, to the New World Order defending, and that's what's happening.

01:17:59.000 For example, by taking this unilateral approach to foreign policy, the Bush administration is engendering a great deal of hate and discontent against the U.S.

01:18:07.000 Now, this will eventually be used by Russia and China to justify their striking America with a preemptive nuclear strike. 0.78

01:18:15.000 At some point, when they have to say, hey, somebody's got to stop this rogue nation rampaging to the world.

01:18:21.000 Then the world will see it as good.

01:18:23.000 They're playing the bad cop in Iraq. 0.82

01:18:26.000 Then the U.N.

01:18:26.000 comes in as the good cop, and here's the Washington Post.

01:18:28.000 White House wants the U.N. 0.97

01:18:29.000 to return to Iraq.

01:18:31.000 That's today.

01:18:32.000 Here's another one.

01:18:33.000 U.N.

01:18:33.000 and Guatemala sign landmark agreement and bid to curb illegal and secret groups.

01:18:37.000 The U.N.

01:18:38.000 is taking over the police forces of Guatemala.

01:18:41.000 Go ahead.

01:18:42.000 But it's true that The UN has been raised in the eyes of moderates and even liberal people because it's viewed as the only hope.

01:18:51.000 To put the Bush administration in their place, the U.S.

01:18:54.000 has looked upon as benevolent in Iraq, and it never has had a benevolent president in any country.

01:18:59.000 Well, Joe, the same thing, exactly, we'll talk about it when we get back, but the same thing with England.

01:19:05.000 They'll pass draconian laws, abuse the people, then the only recourse is the EU, and they'll actually give them good rulings.

01:19:12.000 Now the British people are starting to see the EU as the good guys.

01:19:15.000 That's right.

01:19:16.000 It's very, very slick.

01:19:18.000 Now, one thing I might also point out, and I'm probably the only one who's analyzed this this way, is there is a split within the New World Order.

01:19:25.000 Maybe we can talk about that after the break.

01:19:27.000 Sure, we will, Joel.

01:19:27.000 We're honored to have you.

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01:23:55.000 Coming up in the next segment we'll take your calls for Joel Scalston, the toll free number to join us on air.

01:24:04.000 is 800-259-9231. His website is joelskousen.com.

01:24:14.000 That's Joel, and then Skousen.

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01:24:21.000 Joel, you were talking about a split in the New World Order.

01:24:24.000 I'd imagine there's thousands of low-level splits with these criminals always fighting with each other, like different mafias do. 1.00

01:24:31.000 They just agree to keep the general public in the dark, but have wars with each other.

01:24:35.000 But you're talking about two major blocks.

01:24:38.000 Go ahead.

01:24:39.000 I am.

01:24:40.000 Before I answer that, let me just say I need to talk to you off air during the next break.

01:24:44.000 Sure.

01:24:46.000 There is, in my analysis, two major controlling powers that are attempting to take control of the New World Order.

01:24:55.000 One is the Anglo-American establishment, you know, that we're most familiar with, that we view traditionally as the New World Order, and they're the ones essentially in the driver's seat right now because they control the purse strings. 0.60

01:25:06.000 They control the World Bank, they control the Bank of International Settlements, most of the central banks, if not all of them, and so they're really in the driver's seat.

01:25:16.000 But there is another faction, and that is a Moscow-driven faction, which controls most of the European-based New World Order structure, including the EU.

01:25:28.000 Now you say, well, how could that be?

01:25:29.000 You know, these people are in NATO, they're anti-communist.

01:25:34.000 That's more on the surface.

01:25:35.000 In fact, once World War II ended, the Communist Party decided to go underground and run all of their operations through the Socialist International.

01:25:45.000 And that puts a different light on the subject.

01:25:47.000 If you look at the membership of the Socialist International, you will find that almost all leaders in Europe, major European nations, are members of the Socialist International.

01:25:59.000 And it breaches across into Latin America as well.

01:26:02.000 All of the presidents under the PRI that used to run Mexico until Vicente Fox were part of the Socialist International.

01:26:09.000 In other words, they were essentially under the control of Moscow.

01:26:14.000 So, what we have now is Vicente Fox got the other side of the New World Order, got its hand into Mexico through him.

01:26:23.000 Tony Blair's an interesting case.

01:26:25.000 I'm trying to analyze for your listeners which side of the New World Order faction are these leaders on.

01:26:32.000 Tony Blair is actually part of the Socialist International Moscow Marxist faction, but he is playing as a big ally of George Bush, and I think it's a little bit of a Trojan horse, the Moscow side trying to make inroads into the power structure of the Anglo-American establishment.

01:26:53.000 But you see, the Moscow side of the New World Order controls the U.N. 0.77

01:27:00.000 Security Council.

01:27:01.000 The U.S.

01:27:02.000 controls that, but it controls the General Assembly.

01:27:05.000 About 90% of the nations vote right down the Moscow party line.

01:27:10.000 So that's why the U.N.

01:27:12.000 continues to try to chip away at Security Council powers.

01:27:17.000 And that's very, very dangerous.

01:27:18.000 Right now, you know, western states have a, everybody's got a veto power, and even though the communists have a veto power, it does allow us to maintain some sovereignty.

01:27:28.000 But earlier, Joel, you said Bush, and this is clearly what's happening, is playing into this, building the UN up, actually legitimizing them.

01:27:37.000 Precisely, and that's why you don't find, despite their controversy, the so-called controversy with the UN, you never find the US Attempting to get out of the U.N.

01:27:46.000 or strengthen their position of sovereignty.

01:27:49.000 And they never used their veto, hardly at all.

01:27:51.000 See, Joel, you see this as two separate systems.

01:27:54.000 I see it as a left and right arm.

01:27:57.000 At the top of that pyramid, you've got the big central banks that need two sides to keep their criminal arms in line so one of the arms doesn't try to get ascension on its own.

01:28:07.000 But there's a difference.

01:28:08.000 There's still a difference, even though I agree that Your big central banks still continue to prop up Russia, they continue to help maintain this grand deception of the fall of the Soviet Union.

01:28:20.000 Nevertheless, I differ from the General Birx's side of view that, in fact my uncle began and promulgated this about the Anglo-American deception of controlling both sides of the political spectrum, including the communists, but it really isn't true.

01:28:35.000 They influence it.

01:28:36.000 They build it up for Hegelian purposes.

01:28:38.000 Well, that's what I just said.

01:28:39.000 Exactly.

01:28:40.000 I don't think it's a left and right arm.

01:28:42.000 I think the Russians are actually a separate predatory power. 0.98

01:28:45.000 And they intend to kill the West at some point. 0.93

01:28:49.000 Not to destroy it.

01:28:50.000 What I'm saying is the bankers need to have that threat to keep the Anglo-American establishment in line. 0.92

01:28:56.000 The top of the pyramid plays the two sides against each other.

01:28:59.000 Yes, but it's not a direct control.

01:29:01.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:29:02.000 No, I think they've lost control in many cases.

01:29:04.000 It's still in direct control, and they are inducing the Russians to someday strike, and the Russians are having... They're reluctant to. 0.56

01:29:12.000 They suspect a trap, and there is a trap being set.

01:29:15.000 Alright, when we get back, I want to briefly talk about, as a fighter pilot, what you were saying about September 11th.

01:29:21.000 That's very important, and get your response on that, and then we'll go to some calls.

01:29:25.000 We'll be right back, folks, and then we've got Heath Parker coming on from Texas Frontline to talk about the immigration situation, the end of the border, the capitulation of the globalists by Lord Bush, and then we'll also get to Paul Joseph Watson.

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01:33:14.000 Joel Skousen, I mean it's clear when the British Environment Minister, number three guy in the Blair government, Michael Meacher, goes public a few months ago and says that the globalists, that is, the Bushes, didn't carry out 9-11.

01:33:30.000 They certainly had knowledge of it and funded them.

01:33:33.000 Clearly, that is the left-wing side of the UN.

01:33:38.000 Again, that's why Europe has allowed all the facts that the military-industrial complex carried out 9-11 to come forward.

01:33:46.000 So I agree with you on that, but just in a few minutes, your analysis of 9-11, and then we'll start going to some polls.

01:33:55.000 Well, you know, one of the most interesting conundrums in the 9-11 is how do you get, if the Arabs were in fact the ones hijacking these airplanes, and that is still for doubt.

01:34:04.000 Now, there is virtually no confirmable evidence that the United States has given anywhere Of the true identity of Arabs, or if they were in fact on the planes.

01:34:13.000 We have been denied any video security footage of any Arabs walking aboard that airplane.

01:34:18.000 We've denied any of the lists.

01:34:21.000 Simply, we've been denied all of the conversations between the FAA and the pilots as the pilots would have declared an emergency about the hijacking.

01:34:29.000 Well now, nine of the hijackers have been found alive and dead.

01:34:33.000 And what's more interesting is, with the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the supposed mastermind, over nine months ago, the U.S.

01:34:41.000 has continued to leak supposed admissions of Mohammed that confirm the government position.

01:34:47.000 But what's very strange is, he has never made any statement, according to the U.S., About how they got their training.

01:34:54.000 We know they didn't get their training in these aircraft if they in fact were the Flyers and the Hijackers. 1.00

01:35:00.000 They didn't get their training in Cessnas.

01:35:01.000 I can tell you as a fighter pilot, it would be very, you know, I could probably handle one of those aircraft even never having flown it before.

01:35:11.000 But you have to have a tremendous amount of training.

01:35:13.000 And none of these people had any competency to be able to accomplish that.

01:35:17.000 So, either these flight training in the Cessna was simply a cover to be a lot to allow the story to go forward that this is how they got trained to cover for some of the middle eastern country aligned with the bush administration who who actually did the training or in fact they never were hijacked by these particular alright well let me throw something in the pot here uh... again obviously folks I've made two films written a book on 9-11 and only covered some of the evidence there's so many smoking guns it is a ledger or a story or a patsy fallback

01:35:51.000 That they were trained at those local flight schools, where they would get in the Cessnas and then jump out on the runway.

01:35:57.000 Which shows they couldn't fly, which then makes it more confusing that MSNBC, Pensacola News Journal, and this is admitted, that at least seven of the supposed hijackers were trained in a secret program in 1999 under the CIA at the Pensacola Naval Air Station in some type of secret operation.

01:36:17.000 Now, what do you say to them apples?

01:36:21.000 I'm just not sure.

01:36:23.000 I haven't seen any verifiable documentation about that claim.

01:36:31.000 I've read it.

01:36:32.000 I know what you're saying.

01:36:33.000 But they haven't given us any names, any other way to confirm that.

01:36:37.000 That would be highly unlikely.

01:36:38.000 I trained at Pensacola.

01:36:41.000 I know the facilities there.

01:36:42.000 I don't think that would have given them the training sufficient to do so.

01:36:46.000 They have an Arab-speaking flight school at Fort Worth that they could have flown in with government visas.

01:36:52.000 They didn't do it there either.

01:36:54.000 I still think that in order to do this, if they did have Arabs flying these things, and that's still in doubt, they were trained in full-sized aircraft, not simulators, in Libya, in Saudi Arabia, uh... not iraq

01:37:08.000 but perhaps a rant again here's the question why would the arabs 1.00

01:37:13.000 knowing this will bring down the wrath of the globalist do something like this

01:37:17.000 and then we've got the next time we need to air attacks for imperial mobilization we've got was a good results key

01:37:24.000 of a trilateral commission saying all this

01:37:27.000 We have the public officials being warned not to fly.

01:37:31.000 That's admitted.

01:37:32.000 We have Solomon Rushdie being warned not to fly.

01:37:35.000 Mayor Willie Brown.

01:37:36.000 We have all this.

01:37:37.000 We have the insider trading.

01:37:38.000 We have Bush Sr.

01:37:39.000 meeting with the head bin Laden that morning.

01:37:42.000 In DC, we have, excuse me, in New York, at the same time in DC we have General Mahmoud Ahmed for his week-long meeting with the CIA that morning having breakfast with the House and Senate Intelligence Chairman.

01:37:58.000 We have all of this, and again, that's just a small portion of it.

01:38:03.000 How does all that tie together?

01:38:05.000 In my opinion, there's only one who really could have benefited from this.

01:38:08.000 It certainly wouldn't have benefited the Muslim nations. 0.97

01:38:11.000 It would only have benefited an administration who had a globalist orientation, who wanted to set up agent provocateur incidents in order to justify the dismantling of U.S.

01:38:21.000 constitutional protections.

01:38:22.000 And that is exactly what has happened.

01:38:25.000 So, I'm pointing the finger at the Bush administration.

01:38:28.000 But more than just George Bush, because I believe he's a script reader, I think it goes higher than that.

01:38:33.000 It goes to the shadow government that has been working in the Clinton administration, the former Bush administration.

01:38:40.000 I don't believe Reagan was a knowing conspirator in that shadow government, but I think they controlled him through George Bush and other people.

01:38:47.000 Well, the historical record shows that.

01:38:49.000 Reagan was talking about getting rid of the IRS, saying there were scams, and then suddenly he gets shot and everything changes.

01:38:58.000 Uh, but at the same time, Joel, I mean, you've been in the, you know, higher levels of the Republican Party.

01:39:03.000 You're a prominent guy saying this.

01:39:04.000 A lot of others are talking about this.

01:39:06.000 But exactly, we see them setting up this high-tech police state in the aftermath of 9-11.

01:39:12.000 We see the borders still wide open.

01:39:14.000 And I know that the Globalists carried out, the Anglo-American Skull and Bones side of it, the Bohemian Grove Club side, carried out 9-11. 0.93

01:39:23.000 I know they told the men that carried this out that, well, we're doing this to get the people mobilized because they don't know we're about to have to have a war with Russia and China.

01:39:34.000 That's how they sold it to the men to carry this out.

01:39:37.000 But they have to know that their bosses are setting up their own command and control model here.

01:39:43.000 So, how do we reach out to the people who actually engineered this?

01:39:49.000 Well, I'm not so sure that they had, you know, that you can sell legitimate patriotic people on this.

01:39:55.000 You might use, I think it would be much more logical to say they used actual dark side operators. 0.73

01:40:02.000 The whole slew of these people in the CIA who know how to fly all the various aircraft, You know, there's rumors that this could have been done remote control.

01:40:11.000 I don't know of any legitimate military people who would have done these deeds, even if they were given an excuse that just too easy.

01:40:18.000 Well, Hitler found people to burn the Reichstag.

01:40:21.000 Hitler found people to kill the folks at the radio station.

01:40:24.000 Yeah, it only took two or three, though, to burn down the Reichstag.

01:40:27.000 Well, exactly, but...

01:40:30.000 I mean, they've always found... Yeah, but they're dark side operators. 0.99

01:40:35.000 They don't take legitimate military people.

01:40:39.000 Most of the soldiers in the Nazi period... Well, of course, I meant people in government.

01:40:45.000 But again, a lot of them are deluding themselves to do it.

01:40:48.000 Or are you saying these are just actual evil people?

01:40:50.000 Yeah, I'm saying they're actual evil people.

01:40:52.000 They're unprincipled people.

01:40:54.000 We know how the CIA uh... test people regularly see if they're capable of

01:40:58.000 coming into the dark side operations they uh... 0.98

01:41:01.000 send prostitutes to the hotel room they want to be a bit cheat on the white 1.00

01:41:05.000 uh... they'd need from one thing to another until they've proven by their 0.99

01:41:09.000 unprincipled behavior that they're capable of uh...

01:41:12.000 of this kind of level of corruption and insensitivity to conscience

01:41:16.000 It's a very real process.

01:41:18.000 But when I say get folks to come forward, I mean those in NORAD who heard the voice of Dick Cheney who took control of the shadow government.

01:41:25.000 That's now admitted.

01:41:26.000 They won't release the transcripts of what his voice was saying.

01:41:30.000 They had the quote, stand out of NORAD.

01:41:32.000 It is admitted that the CIA was running a drill of flying planes in the buildings in New York and DC that morning.

01:41:37.000 That's how they were able to order him to stand down.

01:41:41.000 And, you know, I've had emails from people who direct contact with the controllers at military airports that got the order to shut down the flight line and not let anyone take off to intercept these aircraft.

01:41:52.000 And Bob Dole's former chief of staff, Stanley Hilton, has, by the way, deposed a lot of those folks.

01:41:59.000 Yeah, as I say, we need to work on a list of that and get this thing really nailed down.

01:42:07.000 You know, it's a possibility of breaking this thing open if we can get some people on tape.

01:42:13.000 Absolutely.

01:42:16.000 Just a one minute answer on this and we'll go to the calls, folks.

01:42:18.000 I know you've been patient.

01:42:21.000 How do we stop it?

01:42:22.000 And be honest, do you think we can stop it, or at least get a stalemate, and not have them launch an even bigger terror attack, because it's clear 9-11 was only a primer for that imperial mobilization.

01:42:34.000 That's right.

01:42:35.000 We're guaranteed to have other high-profile attacks, and the proof that we don't have real terrorist cells in this country is we have no normal terrorism.

01:42:43.000 No car bombings, no suicide bombings, no electrical pylon bombings.

01:42:46.000 That's the easy stuff.

01:42:48.000 We have none of that.

01:42:49.000 That's the proof we don't have a real Al Qaeda. 0.56

01:42:52.000 It is a government terrorist operation in order to justify what we're doing.

01:42:56.000 Can we stop it?

01:42:57.000 I don't think so, frankly, Alex.

01:43:00.000 That doesn't mean that we have to stop fighting.

01:43:03.000 I think the only chance of ever breaking it loose, of course, is to expose the conspiracy word, which the media will not allow us to utter in mainstream sources, lest they laugh you off the stage.

01:43:16.000 Unfortunately, because of the lockdown control and the fact that they have over the news and information, even our internet access to people doesn't seem to be enough to break loose, enough to cause a change.

01:43:30.000 Even if we did start to break loose, I think they'd pull a similar thing to the JFK assassination.

01:43:35.000 They'll march out Walter Cronkite to debunk these theories, and they'll only pick the easy things to debunk.

01:43:41.000 And I'll do a public television special, and people will nod their head and say, oh yeah, they've got answers to these.

01:43:47.000 Because they know deep down we're lazy and don't want to stand and fight.

01:43:51.000 Yeah, that's the problem.

01:43:52.000 But Joel... But we've got to build a remnant of people who do know, because I don't think they'll take us all down.

01:43:58.000 And I think there will be in this next Third World War scenario, when they nuke this nation, it's not going to kill everybody.

01:44:06.000 It's probably only going to kill 20%.

01:44:08.000 Now that's horrendous.

01:44:09.000 Because I think they're only going to hit military targets.

01:44:12.000 But I think that there will be a loss of control for a period of time of this conspiracy, and I think it's potential to be able to mobilize a resistance if enough people can understand what the real threat is.

01:44:27.000 We are going to go to the calls, but also I've heard you make the good point that Well, going back, my point is, back when you're really fighting terrorism, you ignore it, you don't play it up, you don't create fear off of it, because that's what the terrorists want.

01:44:43.000 Again, showing that the government is, the control arms there, are behind the terrorism.

01:44:48.000 They do play it up.

01:44:50.000 They give us the definition of terrorism, scaring us for political or personal gain.

01:44:56.000 And you've gone over the fact that Al-Qaeda didn't supposedly exist until just a few years ago, and how it's supposedly this giant organization.

01:45:05.000 I mean, this is so transparent.

01:45:07.000 And so impotent.

01:45:11.000 This organization has Billions of dollars from Saudi Arabia, and yet it's so impotent that they can't do one normal terrorist attack. 0.91

01:45:18.000 You can't have it both ways.

01:45:20.000 Either it exists as the huge organization, or it doesn't.

01:45:24.000 And I say, it doesn't.

01:45:25.000 It's a small cadre.

01:45:27.000 It's a shell of an organization that's controlled at the top by the CIA.

01:45:33.000 And that's historically admitted, but the media likes to ignore that, Joel.

01:45:37.000 Yeah, you know, they claim they lost control.

01:45:39.000 Where's the proof?

01:45:40.000 In fact, we don't get anything about Al-Qaeda, except if it comes from U.S.

01:45:44.000 intelligence.

01:45:45.000 There's virtually no independent sources.

01:45:48.000 Even MI6, the British government, simply parrots what they get from the CIA.

01:45:54.000 And so do the European agencies.

01:45:56.000 Everybody's talking about Al-Qaeda.

01:45:57.000 Everybody's talking about this suspect has links to Al-Qaeda, but that's just a standard phrase.

01:46:02.000 There's virtually no proof.

01:46:04.000 Well, also, whether it's the Philippines or England or Israel, every time I see a terrorist attack and we go investigate it, it leads back to the government.

01:46:14.000 And again, the governments have the motives.

01:46:15.000 Yes, it is terrorism.

01:46:16.000 The terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedom.

01:46:19.000 That's why the New World Order attacked us! 0.73

01:46:21.000 To get rid of our freedom!

01:46:22.000 That's actually true!

01:46:23.000 Nice! 0.94

01:46:24.000 That's an interesting take on that subject.

01:46:25.000 I had not thought of that one.

01:46:26.000 Well, they love double meaning statements.

01:46:28.000 Let's go to the calls.

01:46:29.000 Mark in Minnesota.

01:46:31.000 You're on the air with Joel Skelson.

01:46:32.000 Go ahead.

01:46:33.000 Hey, how are you guys doing?

01:46:33.000 Hello?

01:46:35.000 Good, thank you.

01:46:36.000 Go ahead.

01:46:36.000 Semper Fi.

01:46:38.000 Semper Fi to you.

01:46:38.000 I was in the Marine Corps.

01:46:41.000 By the way, I don't know if you heard about one of the latest events with uh... that would indicate government involvement in 9-11 but uh... there was an Al-Qaeda tape that was uh... filmed, video produced, it was filmed of the World Trade Center attack which only the government was supposed to have and it ended up in the hands of Al-Qaeda.

01:47:03.000 That was all over uh... NBC, that was a few weeks ago.

01:47:06.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:47:07.000 Joel, did you see that?

01:47:08.000 No, I didn't.

01:47:09.000 Tell me what happened there.

01:47:11.000 uh... I guess it's my understanding it was they might have been like actually massaged Operatives.

01:47:18.000 And they filmed, they videotaped the World Trade Center attack as it happened.

01:47:24.000 That's not an urban legend, by the way.

01:47:26.000 It is admitted, they arrested those guys, they were Mossad, they went to the moving company, everything had been pulled out, and the owner was a well-known intelligence operative.

01:47:36.000 And the FBI seized the video footage, and it was all over mainstream news, NBC, and so forth.

01:47:47.000 Only the government was supposed to have this tape, and somehow it ended up in the hands of Al-Qaeda, and Al-Qaeda was playing the tape.

01:47:53.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:47:56.000 Isn't that interesting, Joel?

01:47:57.000 Yeah, it really is.

01:47:58.000 Of course, one must not lead to the conclusion, as some have, that 9-11 was an Israeli operation.

01:48:06.000 If the Mossad was involved, it's because they were, you know, there's a seamless relationship between the Mossad and the CIA.

01:48:12.000 Well, that's my point, is the FBI went on, the Deputy Director, a month after 9-11, two months after, actually, went on Fox News and said, we arrested 142 Israeli operatives who were shadowing Al-Qaeda.

01:48:26.000 We think they may have let this happen.

01:48:28.000 And I think there was some type of weird blackmail going on, you know, in international news, infighting.

01:48:33.000 And I pointed out, I said, okay, well, If you were following them and the rest of the Israelis a month before 9-11, that means that you knew, too. 0.78

01:48:43.000 But see, they don't think that we can think.

01:48:46.000 I mean, can Israel order NORAD to stand down, Joel?

01:48:50.000 Yeah, that's precisely the point.

01:48:52.000 But there is a seamless relationship between the Mossad and the CIA, so that it's indistinguishable.

01:48:56.000 You cannot say when the Mossad is involved that this is Israel.

01:49:00.000 This is just as much the U.S. 0.72

01:49:02.000 if the Mossad is involved.

01:49:03.000 Yeah, they're just different compartments of really the same operation.

01:49:06.000 But the other thing, I'm curious, what do you think the nexus is between Bush's Jobs for Illegal Aliens program and filling some of these police state apparatus jobs?

01:49:18.000 Oh yeah, they say, what, 20,000 of the troops over there aren't even U.S.

01:49:22.000 citizens in Iraq, in our contingent, and now they're saying, we'll join the military, we'll make you a citizen automatically, and filling the police forces with them, Joel?

01:49:35.000 Yeah, I think that there is a need to bring in more and larger troops that can fulfill dark side operations. 1.00

01:49:46.000 You know, the Americans, Who are in police forces, there is a fair amount of resistance against doing some of these operations.

01:49:53.000 For example, they've stopped really doing it.

01:49:54.000 In the 80s we had lots of whistleblowers coming out of the US military, flyboys, helicopter pilots who were flying drugs for the CIA and finally got tired of it and they all, you know, we have dozens of whistleblowers.

01:50:07.000 You know, you don't hardly ever hear any of those whistleblowers and that's because they're not using Normal, patriotic... That's right, they shifted back into MENA and using governors and local sheriffs and... Yeah, they're not doing that anymore.

01:50:18.000 Alex?

01:50:19.000 Yeah, I've got to let you go, Mark.

01:50:21.000 Thanks for the call.

01:50:21.000 We're going to come back and talk to Norm and others with Joel Skelson in our final segment.

01:50:25.000 Probably have a few calls in real quick.

01:50:27.000 But, yeah, this is all very, very serious.

01:50:30.000 And it's classic bringing in foreign forces. 0.97

01:50:32.000 I mean, the British did it twice with German mercenaries.

01:50:35.000 Did they not, Joel?

01:50:37.000 Yes, they certainly did.

01:50:38.000 They're back in the Revolutionary War.

01:50:40.000 Absolutely, and then again into the next century down on the southern coast.

01:50:45.000 Alright folks, we'll be right back with a couple more calls, then we'll go back into

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01:55:17.000 Yes, I've got two of the right people to ask this question.

01:55:19.000 I'll be real quick so someone else can talk.

01:55:23.000 This thing with the border crossings and the amnesty, etc.

01:55:26.000 I heard a man from Stanford Research Institute in the seventies, early eighties, stipulate that the futurists think was Texas would secede from the Union, Mexico would disappear, there would be a war, and I'm wondering if this would be the catalyst that might instigate that.

01:55:44.000 What do you people know?

01:55:45.000 Do you want me to respond to that?

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01:55:49.000 I don't believe Texas will secede from the Union.

01:55:53.000 I think that's a foregone scenario.

01:55:57.000 I do think they do intend to amalgamate the countries through this NAFTA Free Trade Area of the Americas.

01:56:04.000 This is setting the stage for Yeah, that is of course our political power.

01:56:09.000 That's publicly admitted, Norm.

01:56:11.000 I mean, they admit from Chile to Alaska, one giant body with its own currencies, but all marked to the same value with the same digital stamp on them.

01:56:23.000 I'll go and let someone else talk.

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01:56:27.000 Mike in Arizona.

01:56:28.000 You're on the air.

01:56:32.000 Go ahead, Mike.

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01:56:33.000 Hi, Joel and Alex.

01:56:36.000 Yes.

01:56:37.000 I'm curious.

01:56:38.000 We know that five of the six oligarchs, or maybe four out of five nowadays, of the oligarchs are Jewish and equally at home in Tel Aviv as they are in Moscow.

01:56:51.000 You speak of a Russian bloc pushing for the global government.

01:56:58.000 Does that coincide with the Zionist group headed up by people like Bronfen?

01:57:07.000 And Rothschild?

01:57:09.000 Who exactly are we talking about heading up this Moscow block?

01:57:14.000 Well, in my opinion, the oligarchs were the true hidden powers behind the throne in the Soviet era, who bequeathed themselves the riches of the Soviet state industries and then turned themselves into a mafia.

01:57:28.000 They're no more a mafia than the man on the moon in terms of an Italian-style mafia.

01:57:33.000 This is, in fact, You know, fronting for the Communist Party there in Russia.

01:57:38.000 Now, the fact that a large percentage of them are Jews should not, in my opinion, be interpreted as a Zionist, pro-Zionism conspiracy, because these people work against their Jewishness as much as anyone else does.

01:57:55.000 Well, it's now come out that a lot of Zionists actually supported Hitler.

01:57:59.000 That's correct.

01:58:00.000 And a lot of that was, you know, there's two sides of that.

01:58:03.000 One was a certain percentage of them wanted to drive the Jews from Europe.

01:58:07.000 They wouldn't leave their posh, wealthy lifestyles there and go to Israel, to drive them to Israel, execution to go forward. 0.78

01:58:17.000 But in any case, I think it's very important to understand that even though there's a high percentage of Jews in key positions in the New World Order, they're not there because of their Jewishness, but against against the concept of Zion. You think they're just going 0.99

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02:00:07.000 You look at the six oligarchs that supposedly run Russia, who are removed and replaced like chess pieces monthly, and five of the six aren't Jewish, And again, I'm not here defending Israel, I'm not defending any of these power blocs, but years ago I read a very well done history book, because I've read enough history to know it was accurate from other perspectives, about how the church and how the different royalty would learn that they like to have a small minority in control of certain industries so they could rob them of it routinely. 0.65

02:00:44.000 So what you have is this weird symbiotic relationship That's why you'll see Nazis at the table, you know, with the Rothschilds, hanging out together, setting up the Bilderberg Group, and engaging in eugenics, you know, putting the AIDS and the vaccines in Africa. 0.85

02:00:58.000 You know, if they're so multicultural, why are they, you know, getting rid of all these Asians and blacks and others? 1.00

02:01:04.000 And so what you have is, going back at least a thousand years, is this relationship where you have minions for the Dutch, the British, the German families, and the British are German, who have Jewish ex-checkers, or minions. 0.86

02:01:21.000 And that was because Jews knew how to read and write, and understood banking. 0.55

02:01:26.000 And that's how they early on got into those positions. 0.99

02:01:28.000 But, again, and the globalists will routinely cut loose their Jewish minions and allow them to be killed. 0.98

02:01:34.000 Joel, is that accurate to say? 0.99

02:01:36.000 Yeah, you know, I think it basically is.

02:01:38.000 I never have seen the powers that be allow a Jew to rise to the very top. 1.00

02:01:43.000 They've always been used as second level people.

02:01:46.000 They're very smart.

02:01:47.000 They're very controlling.

02:01:48.000 They have an elitist feeling.

02:01:50.000 These people that get involved with the New World Order, they like to control other people.

02:01:54.000 But they're used, essentially.

02:01:56.000 But I've never seen one of them actually operating on behalf of Israel in a benevolent sense.

02:02:01.000 They're working against any form of sovereignty and against any form of religious Jewry. 0.98

02:02:11.000 Well, look at the UN who is against Israel!

02:02:17.000 So, there you have it right there.

02:02:18.000 Let's take a few calls here.

02:02:20.000 Let's talk to Eric in Texas.

02:02:22.000 Go ahead, Eric.

02:02:23.000 Yes sir, Alex.

02:02:25.000 I'd like to make a comment.

02:02:25.000 I wanted to ask a question, but I want to make a comment on the Jews.

02:02:30.000 Many people don't realize the Turco-Finnish tribe actually co-opted the Jewish religion around the 10th century, and now a lot of people believe they're Israeli.

02:02:44.000 Well, and it's not just that group.

02:02:46.000 I mean, yeah, there's a lot of the top Jews are blonde-haired and blue-eyed, and there's actually a caste system in Israel where the folks that look like Palestinians, you know, are kind of looked down on.

02:02:54.000 They're not the, quote, high-blooded.

02:02:56.000 But I don't want to get off... I mean, I was talking about the New World Order here, and it goes back to this fetish of talking about this.

02:03:02.000 We just need to fight evil, folks, regardless of who's behind it.

02:03:06.000 Joel?

02:03:08.000 Well, you know, that's a big controversy.

02:03:12.000 There really is only evidence that the top tribal leaders converted to Judaism.

02:03:19.000 There really isn't any confirmable evidence that the entire people did, and that that became the Ashkenazi Jews of Eastern Europe.

02:03:28.000 So I still think that the jury's still out on that.

02:03:33.000 Certainly the Ashkenazi, or European Jews, You know, they're very intelligent, very savvy people, a lot of good people.

02:03:41.000 There's a lot of people who end up being controlling, turned to the left there.

02:03:44.000 They're much more leftist in orientation than the Sephardic Jews, which come from the more Middle Eastern backgrounds. 0.56

02:03:51.000 They tend to be the more right-wing, conservative Jews.

02:03:55.000 All right.

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02:03:58.000 I appreciate that.

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02:07:56.000 That's right, we're under attack.

02:07:58.000 Our sovereignty is under attack.

02:08:01.000 Our finances are under attack.

02:08:03.000 Our spirits, our hearts are under attack.

02:08:06.000 Our culture as Americans is being put in a wood chipper.

02:08:12.000 And we stand here on the precipice.

02:08:14.000 We have Lord Bush, the puppet nobody, neocon, doing what only a Judas Iscariot could do, get inside the conservative camp, neutralize you, to cut loose Taiwan, to call for totally open borders, blanket absolute complete amnesty, in perpetuity, all the other sellouts I can list, there's hundreds of them, protecting Bill Clinton, all of it.

02:08:41.000 Bill Clinton coming to his aid saying he's sure there's weapons of mass destruction.

02:08:45.000 Can't you see through this? 0.97

02:08:46.000 Aren't you sick of the garbage, the soft soap you're given to pacify you, the Hannity's and the Limbaugh's and the rest of them? 0.99

02:08:54.000 I mean, I want to vomit when I listen to it. 0.99

02:08:58.000 And then to tell you, it's not an amnesty, it's a reform.

02:09:01.000 Blanket, total amnesty, never before seen, in perpetuity, and they're going to pay to bring foreigners, not just from Latin America, which we're hemorrhaging to death from, but everywhere else, to drive down the wages, to bring in the foreign voting bloc, you name it. 0.99

02:09:16.000 I know we've got Diane and others that are Patiently holding.

02:09:21.000 Vince is holding and others are.

02:09:23.000 We'll get to you here in just a few minutes.

02:09:24.000 Stay with us.

02:09:25.000 The toll free number to join us on air is 800-259-9231.

02:09:27.000 And we're going to have Keith Parker riding shotgun with us along with Paul Watson here in about 23 minutes from England to give us his perspective on the open borders there where they're bringing in the illegals.

02:09:45.000 It looks like now the tunnel was built, and they admittedly allow thousands of illegals to pour across there each night.

02:09:53.000 The Red Cross has built a big bivouac center with tents and indoor buildings for the thousands of illegals to feed them and fund them, and they laugh about it, to literally invade England. 0.78

02:10:04.000 This was done by design, folks, to get rid of any sovereignty.

02:10:08.000 Any type of identity.

02:10:09.000 In Africa, they'll play one black tribe off against another. 0.97

02:10:12.000 In Ireland, Catholic against Protestant. 0.61

02:10:15.000 In the U.S., it's total balkanization from a hundred different angles.

02:10:19.000 The host of a popular, very informative TV show here in Austin is Keith Parker.

02:10:24.000 He's been on the show before.

02:10:26.000 Texas Frontline.

02:10:26.000 He's also been involved and interviewed a lot of great folks, hundreds of people from around the country on the immigration issue.

02:10:35.000 And he's very eloquent and to the point with what we're facing.

02:10:38.000 But to give you the Texas perspective is Keith Parker.

02:10:41.000 Keith, thanks for coming on the show.

02:10:42.000 Well, Alex, I appreciate you having me today.

02:10:44.000 You bet.

02:10:47.000 How'd you get into this, and over the years of studying this, where do you see it going, and what do you have to say about Bush totally opening the drawbridge and letting the enemy in, as they say they're the enemy, and at the same time telling us what a good job he's doing for us?

02:11:08.000 Well, as far as the first part goes, in relation to how I got into it, I simply noticed from the time I was a teenager, I'm 39 now, That over time it seemed as if there were more and more people coming in from Mexico and a number of other places here.

02:11:24.000 And I knew that they were here illegally.

02:11:28.000 And I asked myself, don't we have a law that says they're not supposed to do this?

02:11:35.000 And also, why do I have to obey the law if they don't?

02:11:41.000 Which is something that everyone should ask themselves as I speak.

02:11:45.000 George Bush is preparing to go and meet with Vicente Fox to discuss, and foist upon the American people, his amnesty in disguise.

02:11:56.000 He calls it a guest worker program.

02:11:58.000 But don't be fooled.

02:12:00.000 A more accurate term would be a gradualized amnesty.

02:12:06.000 Also, we need to take into consideration not only all the things that you've been talking about on your show, And by the way, I certainly appreciate the fact that you're getting this issue out there in front of people because you have a wide audience and it helps a great deal to have you out there hammering away at this day after day.

02:12:31.000 But in relation to George Bush, everything that you said is completely and totally accurate, Alex.

02:12:39.000 The Republican Party platform states in no uncertain terms that they are to uphold the law.

02:12:47.000 As per immigration, as well as everything else.

02:12:50.000 And yet, obviously, his actions speak much louder than his words, in that, at every opportunity, he seeks to aid and abet those who are in our country, in violation of our laws.

02:13:04.000 Furthermore, he not only tolerates, but encourages the meddling of Vicente Fox, the head of a foreign power, In our internal affairs.

02:13:15.000 We are in essence creating our own Palestinian problem. 1.00

02:13:21.000 It's amazing and Keith, the same politicians that support Israel building a wall won't let us build a wall.

02:13:30.000 The same politicians that build a wall around Afghanistan to control the drug trade won't let us have a wall. 0.92

02:13:37.000 And we're supposedly under this endless terror alert Status about to be hit any second if we don't give all our rights up.

02:13:43.000 But you talk about being above the law.

02:13:45.000 Foreigners who come here. 1.00

02:13:47.000 That's why no American. 0.99

02:13:48.000 You don't see a Hispanic, a black guy, a white guy anymore owning a gas station.

02:13:52.000 Why is it always from the Middle East or from India or China?

02:13:57.000 Because people from foreign countries get seven to ten years of no income tax to start a business. 0.97

02:14:04.000 That's right.

02:14:05.000 Folks, ask yourselves, why would the government do that?

02:14:08.000 Why would they say if you're a foreigner, you get something a citizen doesn't get?

02:14:13.000 It is meant to destroy the middle class. 0.94

02:14:15.000 It is meant to get control of you.

02:14:17.000 It is meant to bring the hordes here. 0.92

02:14:19.000 Now, I've been in third world countries.

02:14:21.000 It's horrible.

02:14:22.000 And we're starting to look like one in parts of Austin.

02:14:26.000 I mean, this is incredible.

02:14:28.000 And Vicente Fox came.

02:14:30.000 You were there, Keith, when we bullhorned him.

02:14:33.000 He came to Austin, Texas.

02:14:34.000 We shut down his speech. 0.69

02:14:36.000 And we had white folks, black folks, Hispanics out there yelling at him.

02:14:40.000 Everybody gets what's happening.

02:14:42.000 And here comes Vicente Fox giving awards to the police department for not following the federal law.

02:14:47.000 And to the big bank, Wells Fargo, for issuing them an ID card that's being accepted by police departments.

02:14:55.000 This is like a Soviet or a Nazi coming here during World War II or something, or during the Cold War with the Soviets, And lobbying our local governments to secede! 0.63

02:15:05.000 That's what's happening!

02:15:07.000 Secede to Mexico! 1.00

02:15:08.000 Go ahead.

02:15:09.000 Exactly, and I'm glad you brought up the point about the gas stations, the convenience stores, etc.

02:15:14.000 Because it goes well beyond that.

02:15:15.000 Americans are being forced to subsidize their own replacement.

02:15:22.000 You see, the problem with the American people, Alex, is that a lot of them still have a strong belief in the American dream.

02:15:28.000 They feel like if they work hard, That they should get a living wage in return for that, and that their children should in turn have certain opportunities, and that in general, that if they're willing to work, they should have a pretty good life.

02:15:42.000 But you see, that doesn't fit too well with corporate America or our overlords in Washington.

02:15:48.000 What they want are a servile, ignorant people who are willing to work for minimum wage or, in some cases, perhaps less. 0.89

02:15:58.000 Where are you going to find such people? 0.97

02:16:00.000 The third world.

02:16:01.000 Because there, there are no jobs, there are no opportunities.

02:16:05.000 So they're more than happy to come here and work for three, four, five dollars an hour.

02:16:09.000 Which is something Americans won't do. 0.89

02:16:11.000 Time and time again, we're told that Americans are lazy.

02:16:16.000 And that immigrants only take the jobs that Americans won't take. 0.97

02:16:20.000 Let me tell you something.

02:16:22.000 Many of the people I know work two jobs.

02:16:25.000 Just to make ends meet.

02:16:27.000 They're not getting rich.

02:16:28.000 They're not getting ahead.

02:16:29.000 They're doing well.

02:16:30.000 Keith, I have friends who have master's degrees and they work for a corporation making $24,000 a year with that job.

02:16:41.000 They're all about to be laid off.

02:16:42.000 They run out and get jobs bagging groceries.

02:16:45.000 And then they'll have another job where they'll start learning how to do plumbing. 0.99

02:16:50.000 They're working 70, 80 hours a week, meanwhile their children are playing violent video games, learning how to snort cocaine, learning how to buy condoms, which are being pushed by the schools.

02:17:01.000 I mean, this is sick!

02:17:03.000 Exactly, but I want to know why somebody from India gets no income tax for 7 to 10 years.

02:17:10.000 That is such discrimination!

02:17:12.000 But again, the news never talks about it, so nobody knows about it, Keith.

02:17:15.000 No, of course not, and the point being that any American that's willing to work 60, 70 hours a week just to make ends meet is not a lazy person.

02:17:24.000 That's a person with a strong work ethic, Alex.

02:17:28.000 More and more Americans all the time are adopting that ethic because they have no choice.

02:17:33.000 They've got to in order to survive.

02:17:36.000 See, Americans are not unwilling to do menial work, or dirty work, or work which may be regarded as unrewarding.

02:17:45.000 And here's the difference.

02:17:46.000 The illegals will live, ten people to a house, they don't pay the taxes, they're not invested, whereas a citizen cannot live on five, six, even eight dollars an hour. 0.97

02:17:56.000 That's right, because they are expected to obey the law, and to pay all the taxes, fines, and fees.

02:18:03.000 While obviously there's another set of rules... Did you know illegals hit people every day in Austin? 1.00

02:18:08.000 I've talked to the police.

02:18:10.000 They hit people, they kill people, they kill themselves, they get hurt, then they go to the hospital, get all the free treatment, and they didn't even have insurance, and nobody arrested them, and the next month they're back in a car, driving down the road drunk again.

02:18:22.000 In fact, I ought to move to Mexico, move back here, I have more rights, Keith.

02:18:26.000 Well, you have a good point, Alex.

02:18:28.000 Also, we need to look at things Like the H-1B visa program.

02:18:34.000 It's not simply a question now of illegal immigration, but of people being brought in from India and Pakistan and other places to take white collar jobs.

02:18:44.000 And by the way, this new new amnesty does accelerate that.

02:18:49.000 Yes, indeed it does.

02:18:51.000 And we're often told by people like Dell and Motorola, well, we cannot find American engineers to take these jobs.

02:18:57.000 There's not enough of them.

02:18:58.000 And yet you have men that used to work for Motorola.

02:19:02.000 Women that used to work for other computer companies who have many years, decades in some cases, of experience in engineering as regards to both software and hardware.

02:19:12.000 Well, they also use the illegals to leverage those workers, American workers, down. 0.83

02:19:15.000 I know engineers who've got two, three degrees who were making $100,000 a year, $80,000 a year, ten years ago.

02:19:23.000 Keith, they're working for $15 an hour now here in Austin.

02:19:26.000 You've got it.

02:19:30.000 What about the future generations?

02:19:31.000 How will they pay off college loans when they're going to get 15 bucks as an engineer?

02:19:35.000 College will be nothing more than a pipe dream if things continue the way they are.

02:19:39.000 That's right, Keith.

02:19:40.000 We'll be right back with more of your info and calls.

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02:24:19.000 Keith Parker, you're going to ride shotgun with us for the rest of the show if you can, but people are angry.

02:24:25.000 They're finally waking up to Bush, but I'm watching neocons on radio kind of go, well, it isn't good, but he has to do it for politics, and it's what Hispanics want. 0.89

02:24:35.000 I've got the polls.

02:24:36.000 I've got the new polls.

02:24:38.000 Hispanic Americans aren't for open borders. 0.99

02:24:41.000 They're not stupid either. 0.99

02:24:42.000 They know it destroys their jobs. 0.99

02:24:44.000 But look at this masterful spin they do.

02:24:47.000 Some people will hear that and think, oh gosh, this is a racial issue. 0.73

02:24:51.000 I better shut up about it.

02:24:53.000 We cannot allow that chilling effect to take place.

02:24:56.000 Do you agree with that, Keith?

02:24:59.000 Yes, I certainly do, Alex.

02:25:00.000 There are people, particularly on the open borders side of the issue, people who want the borders open, that want nothing more than to make this a racial issue.

02:25:10.000 However, the fact of the matter is this.

02:25:12.000 It's an American issue, and not a racial issue, because it affects everyone, regardless of their color, their religion, or their political creed.

02:25:19.000 But when Bush says he's doing this for Hispanic voters, that's like telling somebody you're giving them a disease, and here, I'm doing this because I care about you.

02:25:29.000 Folks shouldn't take that as a gift.

02:25:31.000 Beware the Trojan horse he's giving you.

02:25:34.000 And it's so obvious.

02:25:35.000 This is because the elite wants to drive down wages, bring in an uneducated mob to vote for gun control.

02:25:42.000 Yes, in fact, Alex, black people and Hispanic people arguably are hurt more by immigration than are white people.

02:25:52.000 And a lot of it has to do with the economic circumstances that they find themselves in.

02:25:56.000 educational level exactly you have those two groups exploding economically

02:26:01.000 got bigger numbers in the middle class every year but i even saw some even that clark howard financial guys

02:26:07.000 all for this said well this actually will hurt

02:26:10.000 the uh... the the uh... hispanic immigrants are here legally but that's 1.00

02:26:13.000 okay yet because everyone knows that when you have a surplus of

02:26:16.000 any commodity labor is a commodity

02:26:19.000 that the price of it is going to go down because it becomes a common start

02:26:23.000 It's everywhere.

02:26:24.000 You can get it whenever you want and get however much of it you want.

02:26:27.000 So, of course, wages are going to fall.

02:26:30.000 And that's what this is all about, at least in part.

02:26:33.000 Of course, it's about destroying sovereignty and further balkanization of our country.

02:26:38.000 That's it.

02:26:38.000 Let's take some calls.

02:26:39.000 Vincent, Indiana, you're on the air.

02:26:41.000 Go ahead.

02:26:42.000 Gentlemen, I just had a few comments about our economic situation here. 0.99

02:26:46.000 I think our economic policy is just so arrogant and it's delusional and it's moronic. 0.99

02:26:51.000 Well, it's looting. 1.00

02:26:52.000 The globalists are looting us.

02:26:54.000 The U.S.

02:26:55.000 dollar is falling in value.

02:26:56.000 It's going to be toilet paper soon.

02:26:58.000 We have the twin deficits, the trade deficit, the budget deficit.

02:27:01.000 We've got the social security insolvency.

02:27:04.000 And a lot of that is the illegal aliens.

02:27:06.000 California is bankrupt due to the $30 billion shortfall.

02:27:11.000 The illegal numbers are bigger than that in cost.

02:27:14.000 That's true.

02:27:15.000 It's a mess.

02:27:16.000 The only thing, California, the reason they have to address their problems right now is because they can't print dollar bills.

02:27:22.000 They can't print money.

02:27:24.000 They have to address their issue, but we just seem to print this money.

02:27:28.000 The United States is consuming all the savings of the world. 0.92

02:27:32.000 It's ridiculous.

02:27:33.000 I just don't see how this is going to end. 0.52

02:27:34.000 I think what's going to happen is that the next planned terrorist action is going to precipitate a financial accident that's going to be quite severe.

02:27:47.000 What's your insight into that?

02:27:49.000 Absolutely.

02:27:50.000 Look at what they do in third world countries. 1.00

02:27:52.000 Dictators will plunge the economy so they can consolidate.

02:27:56.000 The IMF documents say they want to cause depressions to get a police state in place.

02:28:02.000 That's the official World Bank secret documents from two years ago that they admit are accurate and real.

02:28:07.000 Keith, comments?

02:28:09.000 Well, that pretty much sums it up in a nutshell, Alex.

02:28:14.000 Obviously, the more chaos you can create, the more opportunity you can create.

02:28:18.000 And as I mentioned before in regards to balkanization and creating our own Palestinian problem, if you have a large population of people within your country who don't feel any particular affinity to that country other than perhaps an economic one, then they can be easily exploited and manipulated Particularly when they have a low educational level, as do the majority of illegal immigrants in this country. 0.98

02:28:43.000 They can be pandered to by, if not George Bush, then by Sante Fox, or perhaps a Democratic candidate, and manipulated into believing certain things which are advantageous for those in power.

02:28:59.000 We've seen it before in a lot of other countries across the globe, and we're seeing it here now.

02:29:06.000 Absolutely.

02:29:07.000 Good points, Vince.

02:29:08.000 We'll come back and talk to Diane, Bill, Ron, Eric, and others.

02:29:11.000 And we'll have Paul Watson on with us, my good buddy.

02:29:14.000 Webmasterofprisonplanet.com, my premier website, along with Infowars.com that my wife runs.

02:29:20.000 And he'll be here to talk about what immigration's done to England and some other news.

02:29:24.000 And we'll have Keith Parker on with us as well.

02:29:27.000 So stay with us.

02:29:28.000 A lot more in the final two segments.

02:29:31.000 Stay with us.

02:29:32.000 Stay the course.

02:29:34.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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02:29:50.000 Did you receive an inheritance?

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02:29:57.000 And you too can do this legally, lawfully, ethically, and morally.

02:30:01.000 But Jim, I signed a note promising to pay back the loan.

02:30:03.000 Isn't it wrong even if I could discharge the loan?

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02:33:04.000 Hey folks, Alex Jones here back live and you know that we're on ABC Clear Channel feeds.

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02:33:49.000 But at night, I'm only on Galaxy 9.

02:33:52.000 And that satellite is going all digital in about three hours.

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02:34:01.000 Most stations have made changes.

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02:34:28.000 But I'll give you an announcement here in the final segment on that.

02:34:32.000 But GCNlive.com for the other satellite frequencies, they're all right there for you.

02:34:37.000 Okay, there is so much to go over.

02:34:42.000 Mark, do we have Paul Watson?

02:34:45.000 Great, we're going to get Paul Joseph Watson on the line to talk about what they've done to England with the open borders and how it made the crime rate explode.

02:34:54.000 Then they used the fear from the crime rate exploding to, because the British weren't very well known for being criminals, common street thugs, but now they've got plenty of it. 0.98

02:35:06.000 Not with the drugs of every nation you can imagine.

02:35:09.000 There, we'll go over that.

02:35:11.000 You know, Keith Parker, this is a global model, isn't it?

02:35:16.000 It is.

02:35:17.000 It is applied to countries in Europe, as well as to countries here.

02:35:22.000 And there has been a huge backlash against this in Europe, as we've seen through the candidacies and the successes of people like Jean-Marie Le Pen, Yorg Haider and others there.

02:35:35.000 Of course, they're all portrayed as fascists because they're unwilling to go along in lockstep with the New World Order.

02:35:43.000 But, as far as I can tell, they represent people whose voices have not been heard in regards to what immigration is doing to their country. 0.90

02:35:53.000 And it's a little bit more difficult, I think, on the Europeans in some ways than it is on us, because their populations were, for the most part, largely homogenous, whereas America has had many people of

02:36:06.000 different races living in this country for a long, long time.

02:36:10.000 Therefore, they have a greater hurdle to get over accepting anyone who is not from their culture.

02:36:19.000 And also, there's really no debate.

02:36:20.000 That really is their land, their countries.

02:36:23.000 But these foreigners are coming in and saying, no, no, no, it's ours. 1.00

02:36:26.000 They've got their racial identity.

02:36:28.000 That's okay.

02:36:29.000 But then the people who are originally from the country aren't supposed to have their identities. 1.00

02:36:34.000 Think about that.

02:36:35.000 Let's bring Paul Joseph Watson up, who lives in a town right outside London.

02:36:40.000 To talk about what's happened, what the effects of illegal immigration and legal immigration have been in England.

02:36:46.000 Paul, thanks for coming on with us.

02:36:48.000 Always a pleasure, Alex.

02:36:50.000 What's it been like for England?

02:36:52.000 I know it's made your crime rate explode.

02:36:54.000 They then used the pressure from that to oppress the people.

02:36:57.000 And I know your polls show that the majority of the British people are against your open borders.

02:37:02.000 But the government says, we don't care.

02:37:04.000 Have some more illegals. 0.96

02:37:05.000 Tell us about it.

02:37:06.000 Well, yeah, this is the thing.

02:37:07.000 I mean, Tony Blair's immigration policy, you know, Tony Blair, the admitted socialist, exactly mirrors what George Bush is proposing now.

02:37:15.000 I mean, the Labour government came out about a year ago now and said the same thing, that more immigration would supposedly boost the UK economy.

02:37:24.000 So they went ahead and legalised all the illegals. 0.73

02:37:28.000 And what was the result?

02:37:30.000 Well, the economy got worse.

02:37:31.000 Taxes skyrocketed.

02:37:33.000 And, as you said, crime, sword and men.

02:37:36.000 Yeah, they all go on welfare, that's why the stock market, the taxes have to be raised because the deficit goes up.

02:37:44.000 Yeah, I mean, the welfare state in this country is already out of control anyway.

02:37:48.000 But then, the Home Secretary, David Blunkett, comes out and tells us to take a national ID card to fight illegal immigration.

02:37:57.000 So again, They create the problem and then offer the solution, which in every instance is more police state.

02:38:06.000 It's amazing.

02:38:08.000 Let's take a few calls here.

02:38:09.000 Let's talk to Diane in South Carolina. 1.00

02:38:12.000 Diane, thanks for holding patiently.

02:38:13.000 You're on the air.

02:38:16.000 Good to talk to you, Diane.

02:38:19.000 Hello, Alex.

02:38:20.000 Yes, go ahead.

02:38:21.000 I'm Elizabeth from Maryland.

02:38:23.000 I think there was a little goof up.

02:38:24.000 I never heard a name.

02:38:25.000 Okay, well, Diane probably hung up and you probably got back in there. 1.00

02:38:29.000 Go ahead.

02:38:29.000 Thank you.

02:38:31.000 I really appreciated something that today your show had a meeting of the greatest minds and good consciences and you really didn't fit Zephaniah 3 with prophets, light, and treacherous persons.

02:38:45.000 And I was kind of disturbed this morning, like a lot.

02:38:49.000 I heard John Loeffler on the Power Hour talking about in Nazi Germany that there were 14,000 clergy, and out of that only 4,000 stood up against the coming things of Hitler.

02:39:02.000 And then guess who came on after him?

02:39:04.000 Hal Lindsey!

02:39:06.000 And Hal Lindsey said that nobody but the Al-Qaeda was involved in 9-1-1, and there was no depleted uranium.

02:39:14.000 How about that, Alex?

02:39:16.000 Oh, so our government's not using depleted uranium in Iraq?

02:39:19.000 Yeah.

02:39:20.000 He actually said there's no depleted uranium.

02:39:23.000 Right, and then he went on, when they tried to clarify it for him, he said, well, if there is a problem like that, we should clean it up.

02:39:30.000 Well, then Joyce and Dave pointed out, you can't clean it up.

02:39:34.000 So, you know, I felt rather disheartened.

02:39:36.000 Years ago, my husband bought all these books, all these prophetic books, and I think the time is coming that we as Christians We have to use our sanity and our common sense to see who are the wolves and who are the sheep.

02:39:50.000 And I appreciate that your program had minds like Joel Skousen and like Keith Parker and like Paul Joseph Watson.

02:39:58.000 People that I believe are telling the truth, Alex, along with you.

02:40:02.000 Wow, well thank you so much for that call.

02:40:05.000 God bless.

02:40:05.000 You too.

02:40:07.000 Paul Watson, Keith Parker.

02:40:09.000 We have these neocon people, and I've even got Hal Lindsey books. 0.93

02:40:12.000 I mean, he's good on exposing the Satanists, he's good on talking about globalism, but then he'll tell you George Bush is good.

02:40:18.000 It's like Limbaugh telling us Bush is good.

02:40:21.000 I mean, that's where the sleight of hand takes place.

02:40:25.000 Comments to that?

02:40:27.000 Well, it's very clever, Alex, and not so subtle.

02:40:32.000 You have to remember that a great many Americans are They're frightened by a lot of the problems that confront this country, and they don't really know where to turn.

02:40:41.000 And if someone is propped up who appears to be a stalwart, honest, powerful leader figure, then they'll latch on to it.

02:40:53.000 Because, sadly, a lot of Americans, I'm afraid, don't possess the power for critical thinking.

02:40:59.000 And you have to consider, too, the role that immigration plays in this.

02:41:03.000 People are out there working, as I said before, 60-70 hours a week.

02:41:07.000 They've got kids to raise.

02:41:09.000 By the time they get home at the end of the week, their heads are spinning.

02:41:13.000 They can't think straight.

02:41:15.000 And some of them never have the time or the opportunity to sort these issues out.

02:41:19.000 A lot of people these days don't even know who the hell they are.

02:41:23.000 So, when you take these facts into account, it becomes at least somewhat more easy to understand how the neocons And their liberal cohorts are able to mislead people into thinking that those who rule over us from Washington are actually doing what's best for our people and our nation.

02:41:43.000 Hey, Paul, you got any comments on the neocon preachers telling us that God's will is to attack all these sovereign countries?

02:41:51.000 Well, yeah, I heard part of the interview that the caller referred to, and I mean, this is the thing, the neocon infestation of the country. 0.69

02:41:57.000 And, I mean, what is just as shocking as Bush legalising all the illegals is how these neocons have responded to it in the conservative media.

02:42:05.000 I mean, go to World Net Daily and Newsmax right now, what's the top headline?

02:42:10.000 It's Howard Dean said in 1996 that Hamas should take over from Yasser Arafat.

02:42:15.000 You know, Wesley Clark is pro-abortion.

02:42:17.000 Well, we know all this. 0.99

02:42:18.000 We already know that the Democrats are criminals.

02:42:21.000 Who cares when Bush and his bosses are basically splitting the throat of the country as we speak, and the neocons just won't face up to it.

02:42:30.000 Wow, that was well said, Paul.

02:42:33.000 Absolutely, Keith.

02:42:35.000 I agree with him.

02:42:36.000 I mean, hypocrisy is mind-bending, and I hesitate to use the word hypocrisy because somehow I think we need to come up with a stronger word to describe the action Of all of these people.

02:42:50.000 Perhaps hyper, hyper treachery, hyper hypocrisy.

02:42:55.000 Yes, whatever you please.

02:42:57.000 But they've taken the whole thing to completely and totally new levels.

02:43:02.000 Actually, hype isn't enough. 0.84

02:43:03.000 Warp hypocrisy.

02:43:05.000 Warp 10, speed of light hypocrisy. 0.93

02:43:08.000 Yes, it's like an onion. 0.74

02:43:09.000 Thermonuclear hypocrisy.

02:43:11.000 Right.

02:43:11.000 I mean, peel away one layer and there's a lie.

02:43:13.000 Peel that one away and there's another lie.

02:43:15.000 And it goes on, seemingly, forever.

02:43:19.000 And they seem to have no moral center.

02:43:22.000 They're complete and total pragmatists.

02:43:24.000 Well, they also get caught lying about everything, and then no one's ever punished for it.

02:43:28.000 Well, no, of course not, because after all, the people that ought to do the punishing are all bought and paid for.

02:43:33.000 There is no longer any system of checks and balances.

02:43:37.000 They're there in name only.

02:43:40.000 I tell you, it was humiliating, Keith.

02:43:41.000 You were there standing beside me when Fox drove by Our little protest we just started in about a day but it was about 50-60 folks and he pulls by into the governor's mansion, looks at us with total hate, jumps over his wife in the back of the limo, leans his head out,

02:43:58.000 Looks at us like a vampire or something, and then to have him giving awards to the city and people for selling out our sovereignty and not following the laws.

02:44:09.000 I mean, I was watching an enemy spy out in the open paying off our gatekeepers to lower the drawbridge.

02:44:17.000 Well, Alex, everything you do comes back to you, whether you're regular Joes like us or you happen to be a head of state.

02:44:24.000 Everything you do, good or bad, comes back around, and there is no escaping that.

02:44:28.000 Well, it came back around when he got to the back of the building and I shut down his speech with my bullhorn.

02:44:34.000 Well, that's true, but I'm thinking in more, I suppose, cosmic terms.

02:44:40.000 Yeah, final terms.

02:44:42.000 Yes, exactly.

02:44:44.000 Paul, comments to that?

02:44:45.000 Then I'm going to go to some more calls.

02:44:46.000 Well, it goes back to the whole neocon thing.

02:44:48.000 I mean, they have the same response to every socialist action that Bush runs through.

02:44:53.000 I mean, we've got the massive budget, the Medicare, the Medicaid, the biggest expansion of government ever, the selling out of Taiwan, the assault weapons ban, even down to blocking the arming of pilots, you know, kissing up to Putin, signing away the hundreds of millions of dollars to North Korea to build their nuclear reactors, and the neocon And that's the key word is MASSIVE ACCELERATION!

02:45:18.000 Let's talk to Bill in Texas, then Ron, Eric, and others.

02:45:20.000 the fact that bush is just accelerating the same agenda with the same policies

02:45:25.000 that bill clinton did before him so we just see the same endless march towards

02:45:30.000 globalism and destruction of sovereignty whether it's uh...

02:45:34.000 coming from republicans or democrats and that's the key word is massive

02:45:38.000 acceleration uh... let's talk to bill in texas and ron eric and others

02:45:45.000 go ahead bill i think we might have gotten a call scrambled a bit here

02:45:50.000 Bill, are you there?

02:45:55.000 We'll go to Bill.

02:45:56.000 I said we'll go to Bill, then we'll go to Ron, then we'll go to Eric.

02:45:59.000 Bill, go ahead.

02:46:01.000 Yeah, Alex, this isn't Bill.

02:46:03.000 Okay, fine.

02:46:04.000 You know what?

02:46:04.000 I'll just go to calls.

02:46:05.000 Just say what your name is and where you're calling from.

02:46:08.000 What's your name?

02:46:08.000 Where are you calling from?

02:46:09.000 Hi, Alex.

02:46:10.000 This is Mike from Rhode Island.

02:46:11.000 How are you?

02:46:12.000 Fine, sir.

02:46:13.000 How are you, Paul?

02:46:16.000 I can't remember the other guy's name, but Alex, real quick, I just wanted to echo what that lady you called a caller to ago about Joyce and Dave's program with Hal Lindsey.

02:46:28.000 I heard that program and they were very respectful of Mr. Lindsey and his books and I've read them too and all that, but I'll tell you, that's the ultimate deception and I think it's people like He may have it right biblically, and he may have it right on some of these prophecies he's been writing about, but he'll get on there. 0.81

02:46:49.000 He has a platform, he has a name, and then when they confront him about these things about Iraq and what's going on with Israel and all this stuff, he stands there and he says, oh no, the Muslims, they're evil, the fanatic Muslims, it's all their fault. 0.98

02:47:04.000 You know what I'm saying, Alex? 1.00

02:47:07.000 Oh yeah, they're the boogeyman.

02:47:10.000 And they influence a lot of Christians, and that's why a lot of Christians are deceived.

02:47:14.000 And I just thank God, you know, that for shows like you and Joyce and Dave that are out there.

02:47:19.000 And if you listen to the tone, you know, Hal's voice, I mean, he was incredulous.

02:47:23.000 He said, he said to Joyce and Dave, where are you getting your information?

02:47:29.000 Like, how dare you, you know, confront me with this?

02:47:32.000 This, this is not right.

02:47:33.000 And I, you know, I, I just, I can see through the lies, Alex, and I know a lot of your listeners can, and, uh, We're waking up and just keep the info war going, brother.

02:47:42.000 All right.

02:47:42.000 Thanks a lot.

02:47:43.000 I appreciate that call.

02:47:46.000 I want to know what's really going to happen in prophecy.

02:47:49.000 Pastor David J. Smith or Tex Mars, folks like that.

02:47:54.000 Let's go ahead and Well, I wonder who I should go to next.

02:48:00.000 I guess Ron in Oklahoma's next.

02:48:02.000 Ron in Oklahoma, then we'll go to Bill and Alki in Hawaii.

02:48:06.000 Ron, go ahead quickly.

02:48:08.000 Quickly, Al.

02:48:10.000 I have Paul Gorter out of chaos and Tech Bar's Circle of Entry.

02:48:16.000 You're 9-11, make the conceivable, please stage 2 and 3, Masters of Terror, Tate.

02:48:22.000 It's important for people to have this information, to be knowledgeable, to talk to other people about it.

02:48:26.000 I've passed out quite a few of your tapes.

02:48:29.000 They do make a difference, especially now that we've seen Bush going crazy, opening the borders.

02:48:35.000 But I'm starting to get some good responses from people.

02:48:38.000 but also real quick uh... on page three d today's or yesterday

02:48:44.000 january eighth daily oklahoma news ok dot com a p article that brighter technology companies defend

02:48:51.000 moving u s jobs overseas

02:48:54.000 businesses blind cool low research funding

02:48:57.000 i'd like to think about ten thousand of your list go to news ok dot com download this article and email it to

02:49:04.000 lou dobbs at the end dot com dot has been hammering really hard on

02:49:09.000 bush on on the That's because he knows it's popular.

02:49:11.000 He knows it's the right thing to do.

02:49:13.000 It'll get him ratings.

02:49:14.000 But, yeah, as if there's more technology and funding in these third-world countries. 0.69

02:49:21.000 This is so sick.

02:49:22.000 Gentlemen, comments on the high-tech jobs?

02:49:25.000 Well, Alex, you've talked many times about the H-1B visa program and the effect that it's had on a lot of businesses.

02:49:35.000 As far as them getting rid of Americans and bringing in other people that will do the work for a lower amount of money. 0.99

02:49:41.000 We've seen that right here where we live, in Austin, Texas, with companies like Dell and Motorola.

02:49:47.000 I mean, corporate America and federal government are simply not satisfied with bringing in people illegally from across the border to drive the wage scale down, to take things like construction jobs and other positions. 0.93

02:50:03.000 They're going great guns on pushing down the wages at the top of the scale.

02:50:08.000 It's actually a very old tactic, one that was created a long time ago by Antonio Gramsci, an Italian communist.

02:50:17.000 Pressure from above and pressure from below, and it leaves the working class Americans compressed in the middle, working their butts off for little or nothing. 0.96

02:50:27.000 Absolutely.

02:50:27.000 We'll come back and take two final calls and get final comments from Pete Parker, Paul Watson, Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com are the powerful websites.

02:50:36.000 We'll come back and talk to Bill and then Alki in Hawaii.

02:50:40.000 We'll be right back.

02:50:42.000 Please stay with us.

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02:54:24.000 Let us now go ahead and talk to Alki, I hope I'm pronouncing that right, from Hawaii, or Alki, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:54:33.000 Hello?

02:54:34.000 Yes, sir.

02:54:35.000 Oh, yeah, it's Alki. 0.99

02:54:37.000 Okay, welcome.

02:54:38.000 Yeah, first, when I was on hold, I was thinking about Hitler and Bush, right? 0.98

02:54:45.000 Yes.

02:54:45.000 Both of them, they like, they do bad things, but they're only following orders, right?

02:54:53.000 Uh, yes.

02:54:54.000 Yeah, and like, what the media's been able to do, Is they twist it, they make the masses focus on like Hitler or Bush, right?

02:55:03.000 And not on the people giving the orders.

02:55:06.000 That's just been, that's one thing I thought about.

02:55:09.000 Yeah, we should be focusing more on the IMF, the World Bank, the Council on Foreign Relations, the big corporations that are funding and pushing all this.

02:55:19.000 Paul Watson?

02:55:20.000 Well yeah, I mean it's like in this country where people harp on about Tony Blair's a poodle of George Bush.

02:55:26.000 Well, I point out that not really the case.

02:55:29.000 Both Tony Blair and George Bush are poodles of the New World Order.

02:55:33.000 I mean, you, Alex, said that even in the last few years of the Clinton administration, you just stopped focusing on Clinton and started focusing on the powers above him.

02:55:42.000 So, that's what we need to do to expose the real criminal element that we've got pulling the strings behind the scenes.

02:55:48.000 Yes, sir.

02:55:49.000 Anything else from Hawaii?

02:55:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:55:51.000 What I was thinking about is, like, The people telling Bush what to do.

02:55:55.000 They're not the top of the pyramid, no, right?

02:55:59.000 Uh, no.

02:56:03.000 So the people at the top of the pyramid, would you say they control Europe and America?

02:56:08.000 Yeah, but there are some different power shifts and sub-directorates, but they all have the same goal, total domination.

02:56:14.000 Thanks for the call.

02:56:15.000 And I'm sorry to Bill in Texas and a bunch of other callers, that's it for calls today.

02:56:19.000 Keith Parker, final comments real quick.

02:56:22.000 Well, something that I'd like to leave all your listeners with, Alex, is that guys like you and me and all the guests that you have on, we can all impart good information, but in the end, we're nothing more than catalysts at the most.

02:56:37.000 It's the people out there listening that actually do the work.

02:56:41.000 The ones that go around to their friends and their families and say, hey, something's wrong.

02:56:46.000 Things are not right.

02:56:47.000 This is what's happening, and this is what we can do about it.

02:56:51.000 In the end they're the ones who are going to provide solutions and I want to make sure they understand that even though the media in this nation and throughout the world works very very hard to create a pervasive sense of isolation and make them think That people who believe in the things that we talk about on these shows are nothing more than some kind of radical- We can break that hold, and we are going to break it for survival's sake.

02:57:19.000 Paul, you have a good weekend.

02:57:21.000 Keith, you have a great weekend.

02:57:22.000 Gentlemen, to both of you, thanks for coming on.

02:57:25.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:57:26.000 Thanks Paul.

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