Alex Jones Show - 20040112_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 Alright, my friends.

00:00:25.000 It's Monday, the 12th of January, 2003.

00:00:30.000 They're claiming that over the weekend they found several dozen small chemical warhead mortars buried under a road in southern Iraq.

00:00:42.000 Now, that could be true.

00:00:43.000 We know Saddam was sold masses of chemical and biological weapons in the precursors as well, by the Russians, by the US.

00:00:50.000 We know that there are hundreds of confirmed sites, that is, declared sites, The country was littered with chemical and biological weapon sites.

00:01:00.000 More chemical than biological.

00:01:03.000 And many times during the war and after the war, the globalists would go into one of these declared sites and say, look, we found sarin gas or World War I style mustard gas.

00:01:15.000 We have proven there's weapons of mass destruction.

00:01:18.000 And then the news would quietly the next day retract it and say, OK, it was a declared site.

00:01:24.000 Understand, they don't just have to find weapons of mass destruction.

00:01:29.000 OK, they have to find weapons of mass destruction that was not declared.

00:01:33.000 I mean, the UN ran around that country for 12 years after the war blowing up declared chemical weapons or any type of equipment that could make chemical weapons or even make precursors to chemical weapons.

00:01:47.000 That's why Iraq wasn't even allowed to have a chemical industry to make fertilizer or anything.

00:01:51.000 Did you know that?

00:01:53.000 They had to buy everything from the West or from outside of their country.

00:01:59.000 But now they're saying they found some weapons of mass destruction, but they're not really heralding it in the newspapers and on television that I've seen.

00:02:07.000 Meanwhile Blair is saying, Blair admits weapons of mass destruction may never be found.

00:02:13.000 But he said a few months ago that he would resign if they were not found.

00:02:17.000 He stated his position as the Prime Minister on it.

00:02:24.000 So try to figure that out.

00:02:25.000 And then again last week he said that Uh, with the Dr. David Kelly inquiry, that if anything bad came out there, uh, he would resign.

00:02:35.000 But, again, as bad stuff's already come out, why hasn't he resigned?

00:02:39.000 i mean that stuff came out about tony blair and and and the death of our david kelly

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00:03:42.000 From the head of the train Without the renegade

00:03:50.000 Lord knows where we'd be Well, continuing here, my friends, also there's a story

00:04:04.000 here where a woman in Massachusetts went to buy her 10-year-old son a flight simulator program.

00:04:12.000 We've all played these on our personal computers, at least most of us have.

00:04:16.000 They're sold everywhere.

00:04:17.000 Went to just buy a normal little video game and The store clerk said, well I went ahead and called Homeland

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00:04:23.000 She didn't say anything suspicious, but I did.

00:04:26.000 And they're commending the store Staples, big office supply, and I guess they sell video

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00:04:41.000 Well, they said she was a homeschooler.

00:04:43.000 That was the main suspicion, but she didn't say anything suspicious.

00:04:46.000 But you know, we have the footage in the documents where the FBI says that homeschoolers are potential terrorists.

00:04:52.000 Yeah, anybody who isn't part of this corrupt system.

00:04:55.000 So we'll get to that as well.

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00:08:03.000 alex jones on the gcn radio network i love america

00:08:15.000 I love this country.

00:08:16.000 I love my family.

00:08:18.000 I don't like sitting here with front row seats to the deconstruction of our constitutional republic, our borders, our families, our Second Amendment.

00:08:31.000 I can't stand the fact that the IMF, the World Bank, the World Trade Organization, the UN have more control over our economy, our states, our counties, our cities.

00:08:41.000 Then the American people do.

00:08:43.000 Then Congress does.

00:08:46.000 Because Congress has been signing away their authority to the President, who then signs away his authority and treaties, whether it's Bill Clinton or George W. Bush, unto the United Nations.

00:08:58.000 I'm sure you all heard about the 60 Minutes program last night.

00:09:01.000 I actually tuned in to watch it.

00:09:03.000 It was a whitewash.

00:09:04.000 They announced the horror, the truth, that we already knew That day one, in the White House, the Treasury Secretary, John Dickerson, is now reporting that the Treasury Secretary, Paul O'Neill, said that, oh yeah, the plan was all along to invade Iraq, to attack Iraq.

00:09:30.000 And they're all, oh, this is an incredible development, but then 60 Minutes makes a couple of excuses for it, and says some nice things about Bush, and oh, well, it's really no big deal.

00:09:39.000 That's what they do.

00:09:40.000 They take incredibly damaging evidence of premeditated lying and warmongering and imperial fascism, and they transmute it over into, oh, it's no big deal, by having 60 Minutes calmly report on it like it's a side issue.

00:10:01.000 Well, forget what Paul O'Neill has to say.

00:10:05.000 We have Dick Cheney.

00:10:06.000 We have George Bush.

00:10:08.000 We have his brother, Jeb Bush.

00:10:11.000 We have Paul Wolfowitz.

00:10:13.000 We have Secretary of Defense.

00:10:16.000 Rumsfeld.

00:10:17.000 We have them all.

00:10:19.000 In dozens and dozens and dozens.

00:10:20.000 There are several hundred.

00:10:22.000 PNAC reports, and I've probably read or scanned through about 60 or 70 of them.

00:10:27.000 I've spent many hours reading PNAC documents.

00:10:30.000 Every time I find some new indescribable horror, we'll post a link to the PNAC document from PNAC's own website, Project for a New American Century, and then we'll watch it in the next few days and weeks develop into major news stories.

00:10:46.000 Because the mainstream media, the Associated Press, Reuters, Gannett News Service, Knight Ridder, are so lazy, I have to go out and write an analysis of Patriot Act.

00:10:55.000 I have to go out and find subsections of bills.

00:10:59.000 You as listeners do that.

00:11:01.000 Time and time again you'll see it on the so-called alternative media six months, two years, five years before you see it in the mainstream news.

00:11:11.000 So what is PNAC?

00:11:12.000 It was Bush's kind of exploratory presidential committee that was formed in 1997 that wrote some of its most chilling forecasts and wishes and plans in 2000.

00:11:31.000 And in Rebuilding America's Defenses, written by Cheney and Rumsfeld, different documents on the PNAC website are collaborative efforts by different members of this administration and surrounding think tanks, phony neocon think tanks.

00:11:50.000 And they say, word for word, Saddam is not a threat, but he is a convenient pretext To get the oil and to use Iraq as a new military base of operations to go into Syria and Iran. 0.76

00:12:04.000 So when we get up on the air and say they were planning the war before 9-11, that they were planning the war before they even got into office, when we say that they wanted to use terrorism to scare us into accepting that, it's not our opinion!

00:12:20.000 That's where my frustration comes from on this show.

00:12:24.000 Everything I talk about, well, 98% of what I talk about is admitted, documented, public fact.

00:12:32.000 I don't care how looney tunes it sounds, later, especially long time listeners, know it always comes out.

00:12:40.000 That isn't the mainstream news, because all I'm going off of is legislation, government white papers, what globalists are communicating in amongst themselves.

00:12:49.000 I spend four or five hours a day researching their activities.

00:12:55.000 New York, discussing the case for the Iraq War in an interview with Times White House correspondent John Dickerson, former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, who sat on the National Security Council, says the focus was on Saddam from the early days of the administration.

00:13:11.000 He offers the most skeptical view of the case for war.

00:13:15.000 Ever put forward by a top administration official in the 23 months I was there, I never saw anything that I could characterize as evidence of weapons of mass destruction.

00:13:25.000 He told time, there were allegations and assertions by people, but I've been around a hell of a long time and I know the difference between evidence and assertions and illusions or allusions and Conclusions that one could draw from a set of assumptions.

00:13:44.000 To me, there is a difference between real evidence and everything else.

00:13:50.000 And I never saw anything in the intelligence that I could characterize as real evidence times new issue will be on newsstands Monday.

00:13:58.000 So, instead of just going directly to the PNAC documents, Written by almost everyone in the White House, including the President and his brother and the Vice President and the head of the Defense Department.

00:14:11.000 Instead of going right to their own confessions that they published, there's no questions about this!

00:14:20.000 It'd be like if I committed some grisly murder and I shot video of it and uh...

00:14:26.000 I wrote down my confession and put it in an envelope and mailed it to police, and then police said, well we're not going to arrest Mr. Jones even though we have the videos of this and his signed confession.

00:14:36.000 We're going to go ask the mailman who does his route in another part of the city if he saw Mr. Jones commit this murder.

00:14:48.000 Now, that's an interesting analogy, but that's how ridiculous this is.

00:14:52.000 See, by focusing in on O'Neal, they can say, this is the guy that made the markets in Brazil plunge. 0.65

00:15:00.000 This is the guy that caused the stock market to go down when he made comments.

00:15:04.000 This is the guy that went to Africa and was hanging out with Bono from U2. 0.87

00:15:10.000 Man, this guy's a quack.

00:15:12.000 Don't listen to John O'Neill.

00:15:14.000 He's just got sour grapes because Dick Cheney called him up and said, I want you to resign.

00:15:20.000 And that's what the neocons, I heard them this weekend on Talk Radio, were saying.

00:15:24.000 Well, hey, neocons!

00:15:26.000 Why don't you just go to the confessions of the president, of the vice president, of his cabinet?

00:15:36.000 They don't just talk about Saddam isn't a threat, but he's a convenient pretext to get the oil and attack the neighbors and use Iraq as a base. 0.92

00:15:44.000 I mean, it says that, folks.

00:15:46.000 That's a paraphrase, but I mean, it's almost identical.

00:15:48.000 I'm going from memory here.

00:15:49.000 You can just type that into a search engine and you'll find hundreds of articles about it.

00:15:53.000 And that's just the 2000 document.

00:15:55.000 Go read it for yourself.

00:15:56.000 Rebuilding America's Defenses, 2000.

00:15:59.000 What else is in that document?

00:16:02.000 Dick Cheney talks about maybe we need to legitimize the use, he doesn't say maybe, he says we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bio-weapons and legitimize their use in the media.

00:16:15.000 Race-specific bio-weapons, I mean what a little jewel that is! 1.00

00:16:21.000 Can you imagine if you or I got on the radio or wrote a news article about how maybe we should develop race-specific bioweapons and legitimize their use? 0.82

00:16:30.000 I would expect I'd have the FBI... Mr. Jones, get out here! 0.96

00:16:35.000 We got questions for you!

00:16:36.000 We're knocking down the door!

00:16:36.000 Get out here!

00:16:38.000 See, if we had a real FBI, that's who they'd be after.

00:16:42.000 But no, we're not saying that.

00:16:43.000 We're not writing that.

00:16:44.000 We're not doing that.

00:16:45.000 We're fighting against that.

00:16:47.000 But the Vice President says we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bioweapons with the public.

00:16:55.000 Do you know what a race-specific bioweapon is? 0.89

00:16:58.000 I know most of you do.

00:16:59.000 It's a bioweapon that kills certain races of people. 0.98

00:17:06.000 Again, I mean, that's so big, that's so evil, that's so out of control, so overt, I don't have words to describe it.

00:17:14.000 Maybe you want to comment on it.

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00:17:25.000 this whole o'neill saying is not vindication for this show another

00:17:29.000 broadcast okay we don't need medication

00:17:33.000 We have the signed confessions of these people from their own battle plans, which they haven't tried to hide, because they know the media is on their side.

00:17:42.000 But so much of this PNAC news has come out that they are allowing this O'Neal story to come forward, and I have no doubt it is sour grapes, and he is telling the truth.

00:17:51.000 Not because I think O'Neal's a good guy, but because I already have the documents.

00:17:56.000 And so now the neocons, the Rush Limbaugh's of the world, can attack O'Neill and say it's just sour grapes.

00:18:04.000 And go, oh, the big O, you know, didn't like being bullied. 0.97

00:18:07.000 You know, what a wimp.

00:18:09.000 You know, he didn't agree with Bush's tax cuts. 0.97

00:18:12.000 He's a liberal.

00:18:13.000 This is how the left is getting at us.

00:18:13.000 See?

00:18:16.000 On and on and on.

00:18:17.000 It's a joke.

00:18:19.000 And so it will descend down into those types of debates.

00:18:27.000 And try to get in one of these neocon shows.

00:18:29.000 Try to get into the show and talk about PNAC.

00:18:31.000 They'll screen you off the air.

00:18:34.000 If it's a national show, you're not going to get on.

00:18:36.000 If it's a local show, probably you won't be able to get on.

00:18:39.000 It'll all just be O'Neill, sour grapes, and now when anybody talks about the White House's plan to attack Iraq before they even got into office, it'll be, oh, that's just from that O'Neill, you've got sour grapes.

00:18:54.000 This is how their propaganda works.

00:18:56.000 The news will focus in on evidence that cannot be totally proven while ignoring a sea of real, smoking gun, red flag, incontrovertible documentation.

00:19:09.000 And so that's the reality.

00:19:10.000 It's like cops going into Jeffrey Dahmer's house and ignoring the refrigerator full of body parts, looking at it, closing it, and saying, you can go free, sir.

00:19:19.000 I don't see any evidence of what your neighbor says about you.

00:19:25.000 So the police are focusing on the neighbor of Jeffrey Dahmer instead of going into his refrigerator.

00:19:31.000 Well, we've been into the refrigerator of the White House.

00:19:34.000 We know the horrors that are in there.

00:19:37.000 It's on the record.

00:19:39.000 Okay.

00:19:40.000 Now you can comment on that if you like.

00:19:43.000 There's more on O'Neal.

00:19:44.000 More stuff O'Neal talked about that is a little more important.

00:19:48.000 Fribs find chemical weapons in Iraq, they're now claiming.

00:19:50.000 We'll go over that.

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00:24:08.000 And then, troops find chemical weapons in Iraq.

00:24:14.000 Bush sought way to invade Iraq even before election.

00:24:18.000 Border Council calls Bush plan slap in the face.

00:24:22.000 Errant email shames RFID backer.

00:24:26.000 They were asking Catherine Albrecht, the lady fighting the Tracker Chips, one of the leading fighters of that control system, they accidentally sent her an email because they've been contacting her for a bio.

00:24:39.000 One of the people from the big RFID company that works for Gillette had sent her an email she'd sent to someone inside the corporation, accidentally sent her whole bundle of emails to her about ways to destroy her.

00:24:55.000 Oh, they're trying to dig dirt up on her. 1.00

00:24:57.000 Oh, RFID, such a sweet, nice thing.

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00:25:19.000 Also, working in plain sight, out of the San Diego Union Tribune, even they admit that there's almost zero enforcement of illegal aliens working inside major corporations.

00:25:31.000 And it says that since four or five months ago, when they raided and arrested 300 at Walmart, there have been no other arrests nationwide.

00:25:41.000 That was simply a staged event.

00:25:45.000 And much more.

00:25:46.000 Amendment to CCB would detain UK citizens without trial.

00:25:50.000 They're now passing martial law provisions and legislations in England.

00:25:57.000 And a lot more.

00:25:59.000 There's also a reward issued in the hit-and-run murder of a chemist and microbiologist who was killed in that medical center last month.

00:26:10.000 Obviously, a murder for hire.

00:26:12.000 They ran over him and then backed back over him, jumping the sidewalk. 0.97

00:26:17.000 So that's part of what's coming up as well.

00:26:20.000 But right now, let's talk to Art in Kansas City.

00:26:23.000 Art, you're on the air.

00:26:24.000 Go ahead.

00:26:25.000 Hello, Alex.

00:26:26.000 I just wanted to remind you that they've had race-specific bioweapons for at least 50 years. 0.96

00:26:32.000 Don't you remember the Tuskegee experiment?

00:26:35.000 For those that don't know about that, why don't you tell them?

00:26:38.000 Well, it was a specific strain of, I believe, syphilis that was introduced to the black population.

00:26:44.000 And it was done at the government funding and request in order to see how severe it would become, if it would become terminal, and to see how rapidly it would spread.

00:26:56.000 Now, when the government first got caught doing that, they said, oh, we just didn't give black men treatment in a study over 45 years, and we did let them spread it. 1.00

00:27:06.000 But now it's come out that, yes indeed, they were giving black men syphilis, and then not giving them treatment, To study this disease.

00:27:17.000 It's sort of like the Hepatitis B vaccine they released out of the U.S.

00:27:23.000 weapons lab in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and New York that surprisingly was given to the gay male population about the same time AIDS broke out. 0.81

00:27:33.000 And by the way, we have the government documents, official stuff, where they engineered the AIDS virus. 0.61

00:27:39.000 That is not debatable.

00:27:41.000 That is documented historical fact.

00:27:44.000 And for those who just joined us, Dick Cheney in one of the PNAC documents said we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bioweapons.

00:27:54.000 How can they write documents like that and then not have it be a major media issue?

00:27:59.000 It's been in the London Guardian, for my knowledge, and that's it.

00:28:03.000 I haven't seen it anywhere else, Alex, but I appreciate you bringing it out.

00:28:07.000 God bless you and God bless America.

00:28:09.000 God bless you, my friend, and understand, it's not just, oh, it's just the London Guardian saying it.

00:28:15.000 I went to the PNAC document.

00:28:17.000 It is there.

00:28:18.000 They say it.

00:28:19.000 It's documented fact, but only the London Guardian has written an article about it.

00:28:25.000 Ask yourself that question, why?

00:28:27.000 Joe in New York, go ahead.

00:28:28.000 Hey, Alex, just in case your listeners are not aware of this, There's a woman, because I know you mentioned it a few times, but just to state my statement, I'd just like to reiterate a little bit.

00:28:39.000 There's a woman, Ellen Mariani, that's actually suing the Bush administration because she lost her husband in the 9-11 event. 0.90

00:28:46.000 And David Chippis, which is also an attorney in Washington, D.C., happened to receive, I believe, federal documents claiming that the Bush administration knew several weeks before the 9-11 event, and he tried He was calling the Bush administration on the phone and basically he was stonewalled.

00:29:05.000 Yeah, we had David Chippers on the show.

00:29:07.000 My question is, how come you don't hear anything about David Chippers getting in contact with Ellen Mariani?

00:29:07.000 Right.

00:29:16.000 Oh, he has.

00:29:18.000 Yeah, all these folks have been talking.

00:29:20.000 Look.

00:29:22.000 Okay, in late 2000 and...

00:29:26.000 I'd like to hold on, Alex.

00:29:27.000 I'd like to hold on.

00:29:28.000 Yeah, sure.

00:29:29.000 Sure, stay there.

00:29:30.000 In late 2002, David Shippers, Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch, FBI agent Robert Wright, stood up the National Press Club and said, we were going to have a press conference, but we can't.

00:29:42.000 Here's a letter from the Justice Department saying we'll be arrested if we tell you what we know.

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00:34:09.000 Okay, before I go back to Joe and Charles and Mark and Jim and others, last week I mentioned The fact that Bush is scheduled on Wednesday, now he was scheduled last month on the 100th anniversary of powered flight to announce it.

00:34:29.000 He suspended that announcement for the time being, but they're saying yet again in the Associated Press that Bush, this Wednesday, is going to announce a new moon mission, going back to the moon, and a first time mission by human beings to Mars.

00:34:48.000 I guess trying to relive the announcements of John F. Kennedy.

00:34:54.000 So, if listeners want to comment on this, we really haven't had a discussion of it.

00:34:58.000 I've read a few articles about it.

00:35:00.000 I find it very interesting.

00:35:01.000 I'd like to get your take on it and what you think about it.

00:35:03.000 Is it a good idea?

00:35:04.000 A bad idea?

00:35:06.000 Why do you think Bush is scheduled to do this?

00:35:08.000 What do you think of NASA?

00:35:10.000 And of course, I've got my own comments.

00:35:12.000 We've got Paul Watson joining us in about an hour.

00:35:15.000 and uh... he'll be with us for thirty minutes or more with a report and uh... then the last thirty minutes of the show we got jack foot from a ranch rescue coming on that's the group that goes down and documents the open borders and tries to protect people's ranches from the thousands in some cases per ranch per week of illegals that are trespassing and vandalizing and robbing and raping and killing in some cases including border patrol agents even killing them forestry agents uh... you name it They were shot at by Mexican troops and this made headlines in a few papers around the country but didn't get the attention it should.

00:35:49.000 We covered it here and we'll be going over that with Jack Foote as well.

00:35:55.000 Also, Paul O'Neill, the Treasury Secretary, in a new book says Bush planned to go into Iraq, day one, when he first got to the White House.

00:36:04.000 And we had Bush during the campaign, and when he first got into office, saying, we'll never go into these countries, I'm against going into foreign lands.

00:36:11.000 Bill Clinton was bad because he did that, I'll never do it.

00:36:15.000 Then Bush said, oh, we're now going to do this because of 9-11, I'm changing my mind.

00:36:19.000 And folks said, well, that's fair, he's trying to protect us.

00:36:23.000 Folks, it was all premeditated.

00:36:25.000 Their own PNAC documents from 2000 said, terrorism is needed to get the people behind invading a host of countries.

00:36:33.000 And they listed 63.

00:36:34.000 With Iraq, Syria, and Iran, 1, 2, and 3.

00:36:40.000 Then Somalia, number 4. 0.71

00:36:42.000 Libya, number 5.

00:36:44.000 Perhaps even Egypt.

00:36:46.000 It goes on and on.

00:36:47.000 North Korea, China.

00:36:50.000 And that's why they've got the draft being lined back up and the draft boards being set up again three months ago.

00:36:58.000 So I'd also like to discuss this.

00:36:59.000 I've got a bunch of Second Amendment news, more on the open borders and Bush trying to totally surrender and capitulate to the invaders and we'll be going over that.

00:37:10.000 But Joe in New York, only had about a minute in the last segment so I'm bringing him back up, he mentioned Some of the widows of 9-11 victims, one in particular, saying Bush was behind it, the documents coming out, and he was saying, why hasn't David Shippers done more on this?

00:37:28.000 The man that impeached Bill Clinton, brought down the mob in Chicago, we had him on two weeks after 9-11, he'd been on the record, saying terrorists are going to attack New York, I know how, he tried to warn the White House, they wouldn't talk to him, tried to warn Ashcroft, and the answer, why you don't hear from Shippers now, Is Shippers and Larry Kleiman of Judicial Watch and FBI agent Robert Wright who had evidence ten times more damning than Kathleen Rowley.

00:37:54.000 We're told, you'll be arrested if you talk anymore about any of this and what you know.

00:38:00.000 They held the letters up at the National Press Club and the FBI just started crying and saying, I love America, I didn't know it was this bad, I can't tell you, and then Clayman shoves them aside and says, all I can say is, the Bush's vacation with the Bin Ladens. 0.97

00:38:16.000 Okay, and they all had tears in their eyes.

00:38:18.000 So, they know what we know.

00:38:21.000 Let's go back to Joe.

00:38:23.000 Joe, go ahead.

00:38:24.000 Yeah, but Alex, how can they actually enforce that?

00:38:26.000 Because there is really no law that, you know, can actually prosecute them if they do an illegal act.

00:38:33.000 Because it's unlawfully to begin with.

00:38:35.000 Any law that they try to say is a law that's unlawful isn't a law, so they really can't prosecute them and put them in jail.

00:38:41.000 Well, they shouldn't be able to use the Patriot Act to go after Rush Limbaugh or dope smokers.

00:38:47.000 But they are doing it, sir.

00:38:47.000 Exactly.

00:38:51.000 I know if I had that evidence, which I do, I'm going to talk about it.

00:38:55.000 But these guys did go far, did speak out, did get involved, and Robert Wright, the senior FBI agent, started crying.

00:39:04.000 And he said, The evidence I have is much more serious than Kathleen Rowley.

00:39:09.000 It's eyewitness stuff.

00:39:10.000 We tried to stop the terrorists.

00:39:12.000 We were told we couldn't.

00:39:13.000 That's all I can say.

00:39:14.000 He goes, you wouldn't believe it if I told you.

00:39:16.000 He started crying.

00:39:18.000 And he said, why are they saying Rowley's a hero on the front cover of Time Magazine?

00:39:25.000 He said this, but I'm being threatened with arrest.

00:39:29.000 He started crying. 0.99

00:39:31.000 Well, that's just ridiculous. 0.92

00:39:33.000 The other comment I want to make real quick is you mentioned something about biological racial weapons. 0.91

00:39:38.000 That's nothing really new.

00:39:39.000 I mean, how many times have you heard in the media about ectinic cleansing?

00:39:43.000 It's just another word, Alex.

00:39:45.000 Same thing that's been going on for so many years. 0.98

00:39:47.000 Yeah, that's what different tribes do to each other, but the point is, we know Joseph Mingula, the Nazi doctor, the scientist, was working on ways, bio-weapons, to kill all Jews. 0.83

00:40:00.000 Major mind control and things like that.

00:40:02.000 Major mind control, and he was hired by the CIA, protected, brought over here.

00:40:06.000 That's even admitted on the History Channel.

00:40:07.000 But, Dick Cheney comes out and says we need to legitimize, this is a quote, we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bioweapons in theater operations in the next century.

00:40:21.000 This was in 2000.

00:40:22.000 Okay, well it was released in 2000, it had been written in late 99.

00:40:25.000 So, Again, why isn't that a major news item?

00:40:30.000 We have the Vice President talking about ethnic cleansing weapons.

00:40:38.000 Joe?

00:40:39.000 Are you asking me a question?

00:40:40.000 Yes, I'm asking you a question.

00:40:41.000 I'm sorry.

00:40:42.000 Can you just repeat that question again?

00:40:44.000 I'm asking you, how does it affect you to know that Dick Cheney wrote this in a public document and it's not a major news issue?

00:40:55.000 Well, it affects me a lot, but I mean as far as, you know... Alright, thanks for the call.

00:41:04.000 Thanks for the call.

00:41:05.000 I appreciate it, Joe.

00:41:06.000 Mark in Minnesota, go ahead.

00:41:11.000 Okay, we'll go to Charles in California first.

00:41:13.000 Charles, go ahead.

00:41:14.000 Hello.

00:41:15.000 Yes.

00:41:16.000 I just wanted to say a few things about this immigration bill.

00:41:21.000 It looks pretty bad from here.

00:41:21.000 Yes.

00:41:23.000 I mean, this place is already crawling with illegal aliens everywhere you look, and I'm wondering what's going to be the change in procedure at the borders of, say, in San Diego now, where they legitimately have guards trying to keep people out.

00:41:39.000 Are they just going to close those down, or what?

00:41:42.000 Okay, I've read two bills that Bush is saying they're considering.

00:41:48.000 Okay, the bills that are already introduced, one by John McCain, what John McCain says in the bill is what Bush has proposed, so that's what they're going with.

00:41:58.000 And both the bills I've seen are very similar, but basically this is what happens.

00:42:02.000 They're going to be online job referral websites, you know, the type of sites we've all gone to.

00:42:09.000 Right.

00:42:09.000 Okay?

00:42:10.000 But they're going to be for people in India, Mexico, China, Russia, every country in the world.

00:42:18.000 Now, companies will sell, and this is what's being discussed, will, and they already do this with the HP visas, they will sell, just for a few dollars in some cases, access to these websites that will then give the illegals a printout saying that there is a job prospect for them.

00:42:44.000 Then with that piece of paper, see, we already have 800 plus cities accepting matricula cards issued by Chile, Mexico, Poland, and dozens of other countries, okay?

00:42:55.000 You come in, this fake ID is accepted by cities, police, banks, everybody.

00:43:00.000 Now we have, to answer your question, Wells Fargo getting an award from Vicente Fox two months ago in Austin for saying that they're going to issue a new smart card With the illegals face and Wells Fargo ID number, and cities are saying, the same cities that are saying they'll accept matricula, consular cards, from the country's consulate, they make an ID and then we accept it, not one of our IDs, now you're going to have banks issuing ID cards.

00:43:31.000 This is already happening.

00:43:32.000 They're already handing out the awards for this.

00:43:35.000 Fox is up here thanking them for doing it in Austin.

00:43:38.000 Now you're going to have these job search websites issuing a piece of paper saying you've got a job or a prospect to interview for it if you come to the US.

00:43:51.000 Bush is saying with that piece of paper, that is the equivalent of a visa to fly in, walk in, come through the border crossing.

00:44:01.000 So yes, basically they're saying they're going to get rid of the Border Patrol and simply have it for a drug sweet point where they search your vehicle.

00:44:09.000 Okay, so this isn't just total legalization of whoever's here, it's also total legalization of whoever gets here.

00:44:17.000 But to get to the crossing, you will either show a Wells Fargo bank card issued in Mexico, or you will show a matricula consular card that Mexico issues for $23 to anybody that wants one.

00:44:29.000 Or you show the printout showing you have a prospective job opportunity.

00:44:36.000 Well, I read in David Icke's book that it said that the reason why the borders aren't being pursued is because all the drugs are coming through there and they don't want those people to be stopped.

00:44:46.000 Well, again, that's a part of it.

00:44:48.000 I'd say maybe 10% of it.

00:44:50.000 It's about driving down the wages Well, they've already done that.

00:44:54.000 They've already done the wages thing.

00:44:56.000 And another thing... Well, sir, if you think it's going to drop, if you think it's going to drop now, high-tech layoffs are going to get seven times worse over the next four years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

00:45:08.000 Well, I was listening to that Ranch Rescue guy on the National Alliance show, and it's like pathetic that the government Won't even help these poor people that are volunteering to try to keep these people out. 0.94

00:45:22.000 It's like a dam bursting on their private property, and the government doesn't help them at all. 0.83

00:45:28.000 They're asking for donations, which, you know, is pretty pathetic if that's the kind of border we have. 0.81

00:45:37.000 I think that's in Texas.

00:45:38.000 Alright, well thank you for the call.

00:45:40.000 I know Jack Foote, and Jack Foote is no... I've talked to him many times on the phone.

00:45:45.000 He's not a racist.

00:45:47.000 And I would imagine he didn't know what show he was going on if he went on the National Alliance show.

00:45:52.000 I mean, the National Alliance, you know, brings up real issues like the open border, but then the media can point their cameras at them, who also have a Nazi philosophy, and then discredit trying to control the borders.

00:46:04.000 And boy, that is the wrong direction to go to.

00:46:06.000 We'll ask Jack about that when he gets on the show, if he did indeed do that interview.

00:46:14.000 But I guess I'd be interviewed by anybody.

00:46:16.000 I've been interviewed by the leftists.

00:46:17.000 I've been interviewed by the right-wingers.

00:46:19.000 I've been interviewed by the foreign countries.

00:46:21.000 I just want to talk to people and try to turn them to my way of thinking.

00:46:24.000 But a very interesting call there, Charles.

00:46:29.000 Before we go to Mark and Jim and Rich and others, I hate to repeat stuff, but a lot of times I hear my show and rebroadcast on the weekend.

00:46:40.000 I'm not that clear on things.

00:46:41.000 You understand Bush is going to legalize anybody who's here, anybody that ever gets here, and they're going to allow companies to pay to bring people here at an accelerated rate, it's already happening, and that they'll accept a piece of paper saying you've got a job interview as a new visa as a way to get you into the country. 0.58

00:47:02.000 All of this While at the same time they're telling us, give up your liberties, we're going to scan and watch and listen to everything you do and put cameras up in all your neighborhoods because the terrorists are going to get us.

00:47:17.000 Meanwhile, private companies can issue ID cards that are accepted by the cities, most of the cities.

00:47:24.000 I mean, can I go start a company and issue ID cards?

00:47:27.000 No, I'd be arrested.

00:47:29.000 And I should be.

00:47:30.000 But if I was a big fat cat Wells Fargo doing this for the Globalist, it'd be just fine.

00:47:38.000 I mean, Vicente Fox came to Austin and gave an award to the APD for not following the federal law and for not arresting illegal aliens.

00:47:50.000 That was in our newspaper, on the news.

00:47:52.000 He gave a speech at the Capitol thanking them for this.

00:47:57.000 And gave awards to the police department.

00:47:59.000 Can you imagine if I went to Mexico and gave their police an award for not following the law?

00:48:08.000 I'd be arrested. 0.99

00:48:09.000 Well, what are you, crazy? 0.92

00:48:12.000 Imagine if I went down to Mexico and I said, here's an award for not asking for ID cards of Americans and not asking for passports and letting Americans come down here and do whatever they want. 0.96

00:48:24.000 I'd be a laughingstock behind bars.

00:48:27.000 But it happens here, and it's, oh, it's a good thing! 0.95

00:48:30.000 See how all this ridiculous, out-of-control stuff is just right out in the open? 0.91

00:48:37.000 It's just right out in the open! 0.92

00:48:39.000 A foreign head of state, here, lobbying our state, giving awards, thanking our state for not following the law.

00:48:46.000 That is an enemy attack!

00:48:49.000 That is a usurper! 0.92

00:48:52.000 That's amazing!

00:48:54.000 And Bush is in Mexico right now with Vicente Fox steamrolling the deal to get rid of our borders.

00:49:03.000 And understand, folks, you can't get a telemarketing job, you can't get a customer service job.

00:49:08.000 I was watching 60 Minutes last night, not just a Paul O'Neill announcement about Bush planning to go into Iraq from the first days of being in office, contrary to his public speeches at the time.

00:49:20.000 But then I saw a show about immigration, and it was actually kind of, you know, happy-go-lucky. 0.99

00:49:25.000 You know, it's a good thing.

00:49:27.000 Well, there's these call centers in India, and now you're more often, when you call for customer service, to talk to somebody in India who's been trained to sound like an American than you'll be talking to a citizen.

00:49:40.000 And, oh, this is a good thing, and, man, it's wonderful, and it gives you cheaper prices.

00:49:45.000 They even talked about something that I'd reported on, but it's hard to believe, that most of the 50 states, when you call about your welfare benefits, The person that decides if you get more welfare, you're talking to somebody in India.

00:50:00.000 Now folks, there should be a law.

00:50:02.000 We're going to have this big government bureaucracy.

00:50:05.000 Okay, which is bad enough.

00:50:06.000 It's just dependent.

00:50:08.000 At least the people on the other end of the phone at the welfare center, at least some of that money should go into the US economy with government jobs.

00:50:17.000 I mean, I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's better than it going to India. 1.00

00:50:23.000 And they're laying off government jobs here, folks. 0.86

00:50:26.000 And they're going to India.

00:50:27.000 I mean, we're not even... Folks, for a long time, people in government thought, well, I'll be safe.

00:50:33.000 No, you won't.

00:50:34.000 You're not even going to be safe with a government job.

00:50:38.000 And yes, it's true.

00:50:39.000 They're now doing telemarketing out of prisons.

00:50:42.000 That's a big booming industry.

00:50:44.000 Prisoners, Indians, but not law-abiding citizens. 1.00

00:50:48.000 Again, illegal aliens come here, they get their green card, even if they're illegal, and they get 7 to 10 years tax exemption to open a business. 0.91

00:50:57.000 Why don't citizens get that?

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00:54:10.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

00:54:14.000 I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.

00:54:19.000 Alright, my friends.

00:54:20.000 We're about to go back to Mark and Rick and Howard and Maggie and others that are patiently holding the toll-free number to join us.

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00:54:33.000 Coming up, Blair admits weapons of mass destruction may never be found.

00:54:39.000 And this report's from two days ago, but that's the same day that the headline read, troops find chemical weapons in Iraq.

00:54:49.000 Dozens of mortar rounds containing chemical weapons have been found buried under a road in southern Iraq.

00:54:55.000 It was revealed last night.

00:54:58.000 Test of suspicious liquid that were leaking from the shells found that it was a form of blister gas, which include mustard gas.

00:55:06.000 Now, that's not a weapon of mass destruction by the real definition.

00:55:12.000 It's a World War I style weapon, but can we even believe this announcement?

00:55:18.000 Well, I tend to believe it because we know that's something Saddam made a lot of. 1.00

00:55:22.000 And again, there were hundreds of declared sites that don't count around Iraq.

00:55:28.000 And it's pretty easy to go to one of these sites, get these mortar rounds, and bury them, and then, oh, discover them.

00:55:37.000 I mean, how do you find mortar shells buried under a road by accident in a giant country, you know, a lot bigger than the size of Texas?

00:55:47.000 But again, we know Saddam has weapons of mass destruction.

00:55:50.000 That was never debatable.

00:55:51.000 It was undeclared weapons of mass destruction, and many times in the past, They will send out their inspectors, they will go to a site that's already been inspected, announce they found new weapons of mass destruction, and then quietly retract it two days later in the back of the paper, saying, oh, that was a site we'd already looked at.

00:56:10.000 But again, it creates this subconscious belief that they're telling us the truth.

00:56:14.000 I don't know what to think of this, though, because they're not making a big deal of it in the media.

00:56:20.000 So we'll get back into that and of course your calls here in just a few minutes.

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01:00:02.000 You want answers?

01:00:03.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:15.000 Alright, my friends, we're now into Hour 2 of this 12th day of January 04.

01:00:23.000 We've got Paul Joseph Watson to talk about the Moon and Mars missions to be announced and to get his analysis on that.

01:00:33.000 The latest developments with the Princess Diana murder.

01:00:35.000 There have been new developments.

01:00:38.000 Also this announcement that they found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

01:00:43.000 Dozens and dozens of mustard gas.

01:00:46.000 Mortar shells, also some of the new police state developments.

01:00:50.000 But I want to get through five or six calls that I've been holding.

01:00:53.000 Let's go to you quick with your question or your comment.

01:00:55.000 Mark in Minnesota, you're on the air.

01:00:57.000 Go ahead.

01:00:58.000 Alex, how are you doing?

01:00:59.000 Good, sir.

01:00:59.000 The Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program back running on all cylinders again.

01:01:03.000 A $245 million contract that BioPort just received.

01:01:10.000 And I've got a new report here from other scientists saying it's a dangerous vaccine.

01:01:16.000 Now what's interesting, Alex, is you notice that it was resumed on Wednesday when Bush announced his big Jobs for Legal Aliens program.

01:01:27.000 And so everybody, I've been talking to people, everybody seems to think the anthrax vaccine immunization program was halted.

01:01:34.000 And it's not going on right now.

01:01:36.000 A federal judge said this is not approved for humans

01:01:41.000 you can't make troops take an experimental vaccine. Now it's been experimental for fourteen

01:01:46.000 years they've been giving it. So Bush says

01:01:50.000 I want the courts to overturn that and they wouldn't so within four days he told the FDA

01:01:59.000 okay go ahead and They wouldn't approve it for 14 years, and four days later, they approve it, and it's back in the troops.

01:02:06.000 In fact, what's interesting, the statute that that decision was based on, in fact, I have a copy of those statutes on my site.

01:02:14.000 Is that okay if I give that to you?

01:02:16.000 Sure, what's your website?

01:02:16.000 It's noanthraxvaccine, all one word, noanthraxvaccine.net.

01:02:22.000 actually i think that the board of the clinton wrote a one three oh one three nine a boy who was which is a

01:02:28.000 repetition of the statute and they're constructed so loosely that really

01:02:33.000 it gives the government the flexibility to come into compliance with the the law

01:02:37.000 on the matter what it does that by fiat uh... it pretty much it says well uh... you know the

01:02:42.000 government can't force troops to take a criminal shot

01:02:46.000 the president signed a waiver unless of course the FDA says it's okay.

01:02:50.000 And Bush wouldn't do... Clinton had the evil nerve to sign that order. 0.98

01:02:56.000 Bush wouldn't reissue it.

01:02:57.000 He just told his FDA, which is the sneaky way of doing it, you go ahead and approve that.

01:03:02.000 Think about... Now the President... Hey folks, you want a new heart medication that's not approved?

01:03:07.000 Just ask Bush to say it's approved.

01:03:08.000 Thanks for the call.

01:03:10.000 Think about the danger, the dictatorial power of that.

01:03:14.000 Bush is now a doctor.

01:03:15.000 Bush told the FDA to approve a drug, a vaccine they wouldn't approve for 14 years, that admittedly has killed a bunch of troops and made a lot of others sick.

01:03:25.000 That makes me very angry.

01:03:27.000 Let's talk to Rick in Tennessee.

01:03:31.000 Hello, Alex.

01:03:31.000 Go ahead.

01:03:32.000 Thanks for taking my call.

01:03:33.000 You bet.

01:03:34.000 Listen, in reference to the new space missions we're having, wasn't it the report from Iron Mountain that talked about disposing some of the population through vaccines and keeping them diverted with unobtainable space-based missions?

01:03:52.000 Yes, and they admit that much of NASA, about 80% of it, is secret.

01:03:57.000 Most of it is military, so they can use the funds for a Mars mission, a Moon mission, and really use that, most of that money, for clandestine black budget operations.

01:04:09.000 It's a very evil organization.

01:04:13.000 That's all I had to say.

01:04:14.000 All right, good points.

01:04:15.000 And yes, Bush is scheduled.

01:04:18.000 Now he was scheduled to do it last month.

01:04:20.000 Didn't do it on the 100th anniversary of powered flight.

01:04:23.000 Bush is scheduled Wednesday to announce we're going back to the moon and to Mars for the first time.

01:04:30.000 What do you think about that?

01:04:32.000 Because we covered it but we didn't discuss it.

01:04:34.000 It's a big deal.

01:04:36.000 We'll come back and we'll go to Howard and Maggie and Spencer and others.

01:04:41.000 Then I'm going to hit some more of the news and we're getting Paul Watson on.

01:04:44.000 Then we've got folks from Ranch Rescue coming on to talk about getting shot at by Mexican troops.

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01:07:49.000 Big Brother. New York City. New York City. New York City.

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01:08:00.000 Government cover-ups.

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01:08:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:17.000 In just the last decade, hundreds of prominent people from the Pope, Two weeks ago, to the President's father, George Herbert Walker Bush, to the heads of academia, mass media, German chancellors, British prime ministers have called for world government, world taxation, world regulation, world disarmament of the people, gun confiscation.

01:08:49.000 But still, The so-called liberals and the so-called conservatives that dominate our media, the neo-con-hordes, claim there's no such thing as world government.

01:09:00.000 So let me read four or five famous world government quotes, then we'll go to Howard and Maggie and Spencer and others.

01:09:08.000 This is David Rockefeller.

01:09:10.000 But this present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and independent world order might be built, will not be open for long.

01:09:20.000 Already, there are powerful forces at work that threaten to destroy all our hopes and efforts to erect an enduring structure of global interdependence.

01:09:29.000 David Rockefeller speaking at the Business Council for the United Nations, September 14th, 1994.

01:09:34.000 The next century In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete.

01:09:42.000 All states will recognize a single global authority.

01:09:45.000 National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all.

01:09:49.000 Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, was quoted in Time Magazine July 20th, 1992.

01:09:56.000 We shall have world government whether you like it or not.

01:10:02.000 By conquest or consent.

01:10:05.000 Statement by Council on Foreign Relations member James Warburg to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17, 1950.

01:10:14.000 Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.

01:10:22.000 Sarah Brady, Chairman of Handgun Control, to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, the National Educator, January 94, page 3.

01:10:32.000 That was set on the floor of the Senate, by the way, on C-SPAN.

01:10:36.000 When we got organized as a country, and we wrote a fairly radical constitution, with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans, and so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom.

01:10:48.000 When personal freedom is being abused, you have to move to limit it.

01:10:51.000 That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities.

01:11:02.000 President Clinton, March 22, 1994, MTV's Enough is Enough.

01:11:07.000 We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.

01:11:12.000 President Bill Clinton, USA Today, March 11, 1993, page 2A.

01:11:17.000 The last quote I'm going to read here, whatever the price of the Chinese revolution, listen carefully, whatever the price of the Chinese revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose mass mind control.

01:11:38.000 The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history, David Rockefeller's statement in 73 about Mao Zedong, New York Times, August 10, 1973.

01:11:53.000 And this is really the last one.

01:11:55.000 The truth of the matter is that you do have those standby provisions, and the statutory emergency plans are there, where you could, in the name of stopping terrorism, apprehend, invoke the military, and arrest Americans and hold them in detention camps, U.S.

01:12:09.000 Representative Henry Gonzalez, August 29th, 1994.

01:12:14.000 By the way, I have that video clip of him saying that, and Senate hearings about concentration camps, In the film, The Takeover.

01:12:25.000 That's about three minutes of that two-hour, five-minute film.

01:12:29.000 Just to give you an idea of what's in these videos.

01:12:31.000 But think about David Rockefeller saying, for Mao's obituary, writing an obituary for his beloved Mao, who he made so much money with, that, oh, he did such a good job.

01:12:45.000 Mao killed 50 million people.

01:12:49.000 The Communist Chinese admit that. 0.67

01:12:51.000 50 million!

01:12:52.000 That is tens of millions more than Adolf Hitler, the highest estimates of how many people he killed.

01:13:00.000 That's counting Jews, Germans, Russians, everybody who got killed due to Hitler's activities.

01:13:05.000 It's conservatively 25 million or so.

01:13:09.000 Mao kills 50 million, and they just out in the open, oh Mao so good. 0.88

01:13:15.000 And this is who runs the Trilateral Commission, who runs the CFR.

01:13:19.000 Okay, let's go back to calls.

01:13:21.000 Let's talk to Howard in Missouri, then we'll go to Maggie and others.

01:13:25.000 Howard, welcome.

01:13:26.000 Yes, sir, Alex.

01:13:28.000 I hope the name of Colin McMillan is never forgotten.

01:13:31.000 It's going to be just like Vince Foster because, you know, he lived right over by Area 51 over there.

01:13:36.000 He had several thousand acres and he was, of course, the appointee to Secretary of Navy by President Bush.

01:13:42.000 And I just think Mr. Bush is making a big mistake by pandering to the people that killed Colin McMillan, I don't

01:13:49.000 believe he committed suicide.

01:13:50.000 Okay, okay, for those that aren't in your mind, that don't know what you know, that don't know what I know,

01:13:55.000 give them a little background. Tell them what you're talking about.

01:13:58.000 Well, of course, he was appointed by President Bush, and then he said he committed suicide, Mr. McMillan,

01:14:06.000 and he was appointed Secretary of Navy. And I'll tell you the God's truth, my personal opinion,

01:14:11.000 if you look at Secretary of Navy now, and who's in charge of Nassau, you'll see the same family tree.

01:14:16.000 It all has to do with Fabian Socialism.

01:14:19.000 And I think, of course, Mr. Bush is being run by the Communists. 0.84

01:14:23.000 And I can tell you something else.

01:14:25.000 I told people in Austin, Texas, they was going to kill four of Bush's people before Cohen McMillan was, well, they said he committed suicide.

01:14:33.000 But if you call over to the security over in Austin, Texas, You'll find out I told him that they were going to kill four of Bush's men, and I don't know how many people that killed, you know, in Washington, D.C., but Bush's men pushed around, and if he thinks that he can, you know, come up with this Mars program and just forget about Colin McMillan, I'm not going to forget about it.

01:14:56.000 That's all I'm going to say about it.

01:14:57.000 Okay, thanks for the call.

01:14:58.000 For those that just joined us, Colin McMillan, this is on the record, had had cancer, he had beaten the cancer.

01:15:08.000 And he had fought it.

01:15:10.000 And then he gets appointed the head of the Navy and then blows his head off.

01:15:16.000 And that was last year, middle of last year.

01:15:20.000 I don't know if that was an assassination.

01:15:22.000 It may not have been.

01:15:23.000 I mean, the guy on the record was a Bush minion.

01:15:26.000 He had had cancer.

01:15:28.000 He'd gotten cancer again.

01:15:30.000 So that points towards the fact that he really could have committed suicide.

01:15:34.000 Now, when you get somebody like Mr. Baxter, who blows his head off in his underwear two blocks from his house, and had just bought a new boat and a new mortgage on a house, and was about to testify against Enron executives, that looks like murder.

01:15:51.000 The head, Arthur Anderson, accountant.

01:15:55.000 His decomposing body was found three weeks dead outside Denver, in the woods, in his car.

01:16:02.000 He'd shot himself in the head, supposedly.

01:16:05.000 That, again, looks like a murder. 0.97

01:16:09.000 We know that the woman who was suing Bush, claiming that he had raped her.

01:16:14.000 I read the news articles, there had been just a few mainstream articles.

01:16:18.000 I said, I don't know if that's true or not.

01:16:20.000 Then she shot herself twice in the head. 0.99

01:16:23.000 So that adds credibility.

01:16:24.000 She might have been telling the truth.

01:16:26.000 Or she could have committed suicide. 0.99

01:16:27.000 But when you start seeing a pattern of this, it leans towards a political assassination.

01:16:34.000 But look, the Bush administration has no need to get rid of their own people because most of them are on board.

01:16:43.000 O'Neal, for some reason, was a little more big government style and didn't want to cut taxes.

01:16:50.000 If you're going to cut taxes, you have to cut government programs.

01:16:54.000 And there was some fighting between O'Neal and Bush, and now O'Neal is out there speaking out against Bush, while trying to spin it that he isn't.

01:17:04.000 More double-speak.

01:17:07.000 Again, I don't like to speculate.

01:17:09.000 I just don't like to speculate, and I don't know if they murdered the Secretary of the Navy.

01:17:15.000 He was becoming the Secretary of the Navy.

01:17:16.000 I know Clinton did have Some admirals taken out, or at least those behind Clinton did.

01:17:22.000 There were clearly some murders of high-level military officials in the first few years of the Clinton White House.

01:17:30.000 Especially when Clinton started coming out with his new presidential decision directives to have the nuclear forces stand down.

01:17:39.000 There were quite a few officers that died suddenly when that was announced.

01:17:43.000 I guess they weren't going to go along with it.

01:17:45.000 Let's talk to Maggie in Texas. 1.00

01:17:47.000 Maggie, you're on the air.

01:17:48.000 Welcome.

01:17:49.000 Hi, Alex.

01:17:51.000 Your earlier mention of offshore call centers reminded me of this.

01:17:56.000 About two or three months ago, no more, there was a little item very briefly in the news about how Dell Computer was pulling back a few hundred of its jobs in Bangalore to the United States because of Complaints from its corporate customers, which is most of them, about, quote, thick accents and scripted responses.

01:18:20.000 And this was on NPR one day, and I pulled up a couple of Google documents pertaining to it also.

01:18:28.000 It said something to the effect that corporate customers who have had to call Bangalore for their computer questions will now have them answered by personnel in Texas, Tennessee, and I think it was Idaho.

01:18:43.000 Okay, for those that just joined us, the majority, already the majority of customer service calls, including when you call for your welfare check, that's even admitted.

01:18:54.000 Government contracts going to India.

01:18:57.000 You're talking to someone in India, and yeah, they teach them how to not have a thick accent just with certain terms and phrases.

01:19:05.000 They don't even know what you're talking about.

01:19:07.000 I've called customer service issues before, and I began screaming at them saying, get me an American. 1.00

01:19:12.000 And yeah, it's always somebody from India. 0.91

01:19:14.000 They don't know what they're talking about.

01:19:16.000 And we should all complain.

01:19:18.000 We should all say, I'm sending this computer back.

01:19:21.000 I'm sending this telephone back.

01:19:22.000 I'm sending back this piece of equipment.

01:19:24.000 If you don't give me an American right now! 0.94

01:19:28.000 Alex, my further question... Hey, stay there.

01:19:30.000 Stay there, Maggie.

01:19:32.000 I want to finish up with you.

01:19:33.000 You're making some good points.

01:19:35.000 The majority of the telemarketing and customer service calls are in India.

01:19:43.000 And the state welfare agencies are starting to all contract with India.

01:19:48.000 That should be illegal!

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01:24:02.000 Again, let me boil this down.

01:24:08.000 There have been laws that if there's going to be a weapons contract, or a welfare contract, or a construction contract, you have to give it to American companies.

01:24:21.000 But then most of our companies became international and built their divisions in Europe or Latin America or Asia, and so they've changed all those laws.

01:24:31.000 And now, Most of the states, when you call for your welfare check, this was on 60 Minutes last night, I had read articles about this, most of them, the calls go to India.

01:24:43.000 You're calling About your welfare check or your social security, whatever, and you're talking to somebody who can barely speak English, and they showed it on television last night, who are reading off scripts.

01:24:54.000 They're taught how to sound more Western off simple scripts.

01:25:00.000 I help you.

01:25:01.000 So your computer's not working well.

01:25:02.000 Well, let me try to go through this with you.

01:25:05.000 It's all staged.

01:25:07.000 And I've been on the phone with these people And, uh, they'll sound okay at first, and after five minutes of trying to fix a computer problem, they're, uh, cutting out into, you know, Hindu or whatever. 0.99

01:25:18.000 And I won't be too mean to them, I'll just say, get me an American.

01:25:22.000 Excuse me, sir, we are here to help.

01:25:24.000 Get me somebody who understands me.

01:25:26.000 Transfer me now.

01:25:28.000 And they will transfer you, and they will transfer you to a call center in the U.S.

01:25:34.000 So it's simple.

01:25:34.000 We all start demanding to talk to a call center in the U.S.

01:25:38.000 We refuse to talk to somebody who is obviously not from this country. 1.00

01:25:43.000 Understand, folks, we pay taxes, they build a big government, and then we don't even get to work for the government.

01:25:50.000 Now it goes to a foreign country.

01:25:52.000 That should be illegal.

01:25:54.000 Let's go back to Maggie.

01:25:55.000 Maggie, go ahead. 0.83

01:25:56.000 Oh, you just taught me a few things, Alex.

01:25:58.000 When I last called Sony for some help, I could actually hear the person typing on his own keyboard and bringing up the same pages of the same guidebook that I had failed to understand.

01:26:12.000 But getting back to Dello quickly, The idea of an international corporation like Dell even responding to a complaint

01:26:24.000 Well, they're phasing them out.

01:26:25.000 startling and that it could be reported to and i'm just wondering if there any

01:26:29.000 way of packing to find out whether they actually did what they said they were

01:26:33.000 going to do because my impression is that one jobs go away they just don't come back well they're phasing

01:26:39.000 them out were were at the crossroads of biometrics the crossroads of our

01:26:44.000 five d the crossroads of the surveillance grid

01:26:47.000 were at the crossroads of the police state We're at the crossroads of electronic voting.

01:26:52.000 We've got a chance to boycott all this and back it off.

01:26:56.000 But this is a small window of opportunity and many times when I call customer service on an issue and I'm talking to somebody in India I demand that they transfer me to a call center in the U.S. 0.96

01:27:12.000 every time they do it.

01:27:13.000 So what they're doing is what you just mentioned.

01:27:16.000 For corporate customers and others, they've still got people that know what they're talking about here, and you will get transferred back to the United States.

01:27:25.000 Oh, okay.

01:27:26.000 One more thing, quickly.

01:27:28.000 I remember when Dell first announced with pride that they were going to dark all better than that or not about five years ago maybe

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01:27:47.000 they'll at the game or a cost-effective that that it does kind of people regardless of a private company

01:27:52.000 wants to do that it's a free country

01:27:55.000 But we should not buy their products, we should demand better service.

01:27:58.000 But, when the government does it, no, you keep the money here in America.

01:28:03.000 Hey, thanks for the call.

01:28:06.000 And folks, I've been mentioning this a lot lately because it's something that's kind of, I've known about it for years, but I never really talk about it.

01:28:13.000 There are two different federal laws.

01:28:16.000 And why do you think it's foreigners who own all the gas stations? 0.74

01:28:19.000 All the hotels?

01:28:21.000 Because citizens, whether you're black or white or hispanic or whatever, you can't compete against them. 1.00

01:28:28.000 Why can't you compete?

01:28:29.000 It's not because they're so hardworking.

01:28:31.000 I mean, folks, listen, talk about discrimination. 0.53

01:28:35.000 I mean, I know how blacks feel when only whites own the big businesses. 1.00

01:28:39.000 I've never seen a hotel that wasn't owned by Indians. 0.70

01:28:44.000 And this is in the last ten years.

01:28:46.000 And I'm not against Indians.

01:28:47.000 My point is, how can they do that?

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01:29:12.000 Why did the government do that? 0.54

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01:29:16.000 Why would the government give foreigners the incentive to come here and get no taxes for seven to ten years, depending on what federal program they follow?

01:29:28.000 Why, why, why?

01:29:30.000 No one's addressed that.

01:29:31.000 We know why.

01:29:32.000 To get rid of the middle class. 1.00

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01:33:04.000 Alright, for the loaded phones, we're going to get to everybody here in just a few minutes.

01:33:08.000 We're going to have Paul Watson with us for the next hour, then I've got Ranch Rescue coming on.

01:33:12.000 Talk about the Mexican troops shooting at their organization.

01:33:16.000 They've been shooting at the Border Patrol, killing members of the Border Patrol, forest agents, you name it.

01:33:23.000 But Paul Watson, I don't know if you were just listening, but I was talking about how they've had this law for, I think, about 15 years here in the U.S.

01:33:35.000 And if you didn't know about this, folks, you should check it out.

01:33:38.000 Where for 7 to 10 years, foreigners, for opening a new business, only foreigners get this, get, in many cases, a decade of tax exemption.

01:33:49.000 No one can compete against that.

01:33:52.000 You try not paying your taxes for ten years, folks, and see what they do to you!

01:33:57.000 You see, but you're not a foreigner. 0.92

01:33:59.000 Why, Paul Watson, would the government do something like that?

01:34:04.000 Well, obviously, it's to... we know the agenda to destroy the economy and jobs in the country, but you were talking about the coal centers which are being farmed out to all these different countries.

01:34:15.000 I actually had a friend tell me that he called up BET, which is the biggest telephone provider in this country, And what most people don't know is that it's company policy with these call centres in India, for example, that the person that answers your call cannot actually, under company policy, tell you their name.

01:34:35.000 And they're ordered to create fake names which sound British.

01:34:39.000 And it came out in the London Guardian that they're actually trained as to what's going on in the soap operas in Britain and what the weather's like so it can appear As if you're actually calling within the country, and it's also... They even showed that last night.

01:34:55.000 They watch Hollywood movies, they watch the soap operas, they teach them how to... and then to lie to you to go, oh yes, I'm in England, I'm in the U.S.

01:35:06.000 This was saying the U.S. 0.68

01:35:07.000 last night.

01:35:08.000 Oh, that's... I mean, again, look at the deception of that.

01:35:11.000 And it's also actually, my friend asked this particular person which company they worked for, or which subsidiary, and they said that they were ordered by the company not to divulge that information.

01:35:23.000 So not only can they not tell you their real name, they can't even tell you who they're working for.

01:35:29.000 And you're supposed to give them your social security numbers, your credit card numbers, they've got all your data, folks.

01:35:37.000 And then you can't get any data on them.

01:35:39.000 So yeah, it's all about knowing everything that we're doing.

01:35:42.000 And yet when you try to get some help from these people, it's all company policy not to divulge anything whatsoever.

01:35:50.000 It's amazing.

01:35:51.000 Paul, I want to run through about ten articles, get your take on them, then I want to go to some calls and get into more news into the next hour.

01:35:58.000 Troops find chemical weapons in Iraq.

01:36:00.000 Dozens of mortar rounds containing chemical weapons have been found buried under a road in southern Iraq.

01:36:06.000 It was revealed last night.

01:36:08.000 This is on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:36:11.000 Test of a suspicious liquid that was leaking from the shells found that it was a form of blister gas, which include mustard gas, Deposed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was supposed to have destroyed all chemical weapons, but it is thought that the munitions had been buried for at least 10 years and might date back to the Iran-Iraq War, which ended in 1998.

01:36:30.000 Danish soldiers discovered a cache of 36 120mm mortar rounds buried 45 miles south of the town of Amara, not far from Basra, on Friday.

01:36:43.000 Paul, your response to this?

01:36:46.000 Well, I mean, ridiculous saying that Iraq hadn't declared them because even before the war started, Iraq produced this 12,000 page dossier on what weapons they had and which ones the UN had destroyed.

01:37:00.000 The government tore out 8,000 pages and said, look, there's evidence missing, they're lying.

01:37:05.000 So we know what's going on there.

01:37:07.000 But I mean, I mean, it's obvious that this isn't any kind of smoking gun proof, otherwise it would be all over the headline news.

01:37:14.000 By the way, the 12,000 pages the Iraqis were smart enough to send other copies of the press, when they thought only two copies were at the UN building, US Special Forces Raided the building, grabbed the documents, excised them, then released them.

01:37:30.000 Then when people got other copies, there were the documents of U.S.

01:37:33.000 companies, including the Bushes, selling Saddam the weapons.

01:37:37.000 Think about that!

01:37:38.000 And that came out in the mainstream German media.

01:37:41.000 I mean, Kofi Annan admitted that that raid had taken place, and yet he wasn't concerned about doing anything about it.

01:37:47.000 Well, I mean, what it serves to do with these little stories coming out about, you know, so-called weapons of mass destruction, or mass distraction, as Tony Blair calls them, is it subtly buries in the mind of the casual observer that the whole WMD premise was true, because they don't see What we report, which are the later retractions, where the mobile biotrucks turn out to be for blowing up helium balloons and were sold by the British, and the biological factories which actually turn out to be bakeries, etc.

01:38:23.000 I mean, we've even got Colin Powell, we've got the videotape of Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice in early 2001 saying that Saddam had disarmed and was no threat.

01:38:35.000 So it's just one thing on top of another.

01:38:37.000 What do you make of Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill talking about Bush having a plan to attack Iraq day one in the White House and the media focusing in on that but ignoring the PNAC documents which are from the President?

01:38:50.000 Well, I basically knew that it was a whitewash as soon as it came out.

01:38:54.000 I've barely posted anything on it because we already proved that the war was planned years in advance over and over again.

01:39:00.000 I mean, on top of the PNAC documents which stated, as you mentioned, that Saddam was just a pretext to invade in September 2000 was the most one that got most coverage in the media. On top of that we

01:39:14.000 have the March 2001 documents from the Cheney Energy Task Force which laid out

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01:39:32.000 I mean Judicial Watch got these documents which were originally written in

01:39:37.000 March 2001 and so with this O'Neill thing I mean we got the Drudge Report

01:39:42.000 posting his comments from a year ago where he says he would never criticize the

01:39:46.000 Bush administration then. Yeah what they do is they have O'Neill bring this out

01:39:51.000 with a weak argument, tear it apart and try to put the whole thing to

01:39:55.000 Yeah, that's exactly what it's about.

01:39:55.000 bed.

01:39:56.000 It's about debunking O'Neill to debunk the whole argument.

01:40:00.000 But what's more interesting, which only received attention in one media report, was Also O'Neill's comments about the fact that Bush would conduct policy meetings like a deaf man.

01:40:12.000 He would basically never say anything and just sit there nodding.

01:40:15.000 So again, emphasizing the point that Bush is just a figurehead and he's not really running anything, basically.

01:40:23.000 And that's something the media doesn't want to report because then they can focus this big left-wing juggernaut onto the distraction of Bush-hating when targeting Bush really won't change anything.

01:40:36.000 Exactly.

01:40:36.000 I mean, Bush, Clinton, they're just front men, just puppets.

01:40:40.000 Paul, there is so much news here, and let's get into the latest Diana developments.

01:40:47.000 I mean, it's clear they murdered her.

01:40:49.000 She was pregnant with, you know, this Arab's child. 0.99

01:40:54.000 She said, they're going to kill me in a fake automobile accident. 0.98

01:40:57.000 That indeed happened.

01:40:58.000 There's been new developments.

01:41:00.000 Well, the developments a few days ago came from London Times mainly, who reported that Scotland Yard, which is the biggest metropolitan police force in London, had been brought into the Diana investigation to, quote, dismiss the conspiracy theories.

01:41:19.000 Now, according to the media, They are listing all the evidence that we talk about which is proven as conspiracy theory so in effect what they're saying is that Scotland Yard are getting involved to cover up the evidence so on the back of that we had it out of the Observer yesterday

01:41:38.000 The note that Diana wrote saying that Charles was going to kill her in a car crash was actually written a couple of years before it was claimed.

01:41:46.000 Now obviously, I mean, that's part of the dismissal process, but even if that was true, we have Another story out today out of the London Mirror where Diana had another car crash in 1995 when her brakes failed.

01:42:01.000 Fortunately at the time it was only a minor crash so she wasn't injured but her brakes failed in a different car crash in 1995 so throughout the whole period it's obvious that somebody was trying to kill her before finally succeeding in 1997 and then London Times also reported that the blood samples, and I mean, we knew this, but now they're just admitting it, the blood samples of the driver, Henri Paul, who was supposedly drunk at the time, were switched with somebody else, proving the official story that he was drunk to be Paul.

01:42:32.000 Now, we covered this years ago, and just about a month ago, you talked about this on air, and now here it is, mainstream news.

01:42:39.000 But of course they said it was just an accident and we shouldn't worry about it.

01:42:43.000 Just like the cameras turned off minutes before the crash in the tunnel and turned towards the wall on accident, just like the car was stolen and then returned, detailed days before, just like all of this stuff.

01:42:57.000 And it also came out that they're going to re-examine the Mercedes which was involved in the crash.

01:43:05.000 And as you mentioned, before the crash, the Mercedes which changed and was a different model to the one they'd been using earlier in the day.

01:43:13.000 Now, on top of that, we have the Queen's former coroner, who works for her, coming out and saying, oh, I saw the body, she wasn't pregnant. 0.90

01:43:25.000 Yeah, which is obviously yet another part of this dismissal process, which they publicly announced.

01:43:30.000 And I mean, we had Diana two days before she died saying, I've got a big announcement in two days.

01:43:36.000 And I mean, the people who were, you know, intimately involved with Diana said she was pregnant as well.

01:43:42.000 I mean, it's one lie after another at the moment.

01:43:45.000 They're doing exactly what I predicted, which was to admit these so-called conspiracy theories, as they call them, but then try and whitewash them to bury the whole process.

01:43:57.000 And the same thing's going on with O'Neill right now.

01:44:01.000 The Mars mission, Bush is going to announce it supposedly in two days.

01:44:04.000 He's already cancelled one announcement last month.

01:44:08.000 But he's supposedly going to announce a new moon mission, a new Mars mission.

01:44:12.000 What do you think about that?

01:44:14.000 Well, it's obvious that partly it's a PR stunt in the Kennedy vein, which you mentioned earlier, to A. Dern Bush's re-election, but I think it goes a lot further than that.

01:44:24.000 NASA itself is not an independent organization devoted to, you know, peacefully exploring space.

01:44:32.000 It's basically a criminal arm of the government because most of the funds don't go into space exploration.

01:44:37.000 That's why, I mean, we've got NASA involved with the brain scanners at Boston Logan Airport.

01:44:43.000 So, I mean, we've got to focus on militarization of space at the moment, and that was actually in the PNAC document.

01:44:52.000 And if you look at the Space Shuttle Program itself, it's 90% controlled by private military contractors, and it was actually Clinton that began that process back in 96, when he gave Boeing and Lockheed Martin basically free reign to... Yeah, I know about 80, it's 80 plus percent of the missions are Classified.

01:45:14.000 And so they've been spending this classified black budget on things like the Aurora project, which is basically an advanced space plane.

01:45:24.000 And on top of that, as soon as they got into power, the Bush administration began appointing directors of NASA from the military sector.

01:45:33.000 So in the PNAC documents, we've got what they call full spectrum dominance, which is basically And this was leaked middle of last year.

01:45:43.000 It's about creating a military empire in space with the idea of claiming ownership of near-Earth space and not allowing any other countries to gain access.

01:45:53.000 And so, with this black budget, this is what I think is what this whole new mission is about.

01:45:59.000 It's about funneling the money into these Aurora space planes.

01:46:04.000 I mean, this mission's publicly stated that they will have the ability to destroy any satellites put into orbit by other nations.

01:46:13.000 And then on top of that we've got the Lunar Base, which they've also been talking about.

01:46:19.000 And again, it's stated in PNAC that they need a lunar base to act as a military outpost.

01:46:25.000 So they're basically going to pair up the space treaty and have this all set in motion by 2014.

01:46:31.000 So it's nothing to do with exploring space, it's about militarizing space.

01:46:36.000 And people's tax dollars are basically going to fund the New World Order's next colony, their next empire, which they've announced will be in space.

01:46:47.000 And that's what we'd all read from the documents over the last few decades.

01:46:50.000 That's exactly their plan.

01:46:53.000 And they're also going to have these big platforms in space, these battle stations.

01:46:58.000 Folks, this isn't Alex Jones saying this, this is the government.

01:47:01.000 With particle beams, you name it, where they can just fry people individually on the surface of the Earth.

01:47:10.000 That's going to be nice, and a new ground-penetrating radar arrays in space to look through our walls, not just take photos of us.

01:47:19.000 Very, very scary stuff.

01:47:20.000 A few calls and we'll get back into news.

01:47:22.000 There's a bunch of it here, folks.

01:47:23.000 That's just a small tidbit.

01:47:25.000 Let's talk to Spencer in Ohio, then Chris, Dan, Richard.

01:47:32.000 Thanks for taking my call, Alex.

01:47:37.000 Which gas stations should I start boycotting to keep the Bush empire from getting any richer?

01:47:44.000 Secondly, what does your guest think when America burned their Beatle albums?

01:47:49.000 And if he knows what a poly-orp is.

01:47:52.000 Alright, thanks for the call.

01:47:54.000 Let me just comment on that first question.

01:47:58.000 The Bushes are a high-level servant management family.

01:48:02.000 They do own some oil companies and some stock.

01:48:05.000 They're worth tens of billions of dollars.

01:48:08.000 They hide their wealth.

01:48:10.000 But they're just puppets, so there's really no way to boycott the Bushes.

01:48:14.000 You want to boycott the Bushes, fight prison labor, Uh, these private prisons, that's what they're really, they invest their money mainly there.

01:48:21.000 It's one of their biggest investments.

01:48:23.000 Uh, and then I guess the other comment about Beatles albums was being sarcastic, because Paul's British. 0.60

01:48:29.000 And then the third question is, I've known what a poly-orp, or whatever he said is, but I can't place it.

01:48:36.000 Uh, go ahead Paul.

01:48:37.000 I have no idea what a polyorb is, but even with the Beatles thing, it is interesting.

01:48:43.000 Obviously we have no agreement with John Lennon's religious or philosophical doctrines, but it is a fact that the man who killed him was trained at the School of the Americas, which was a CIA, basically, assassination program.

01:49:02.000 It's obvious that, I mean, John Lennon was killed because at the time he was becoming politically active.

01:49:07.000 He started, yeah, he got out of all his liberalism and occult stuff and started writing songs, and I've got a CD of them, about the New World Order, you Satanist, you kill the children.

01:49:18.000 I mean, these songs are, it sounds like Eyes Wide Shut, folks.

01:49:22.000 And then this guy who admittedly had been part of a CIA program, and that's admitted, walks up and shoots him.

01:49:29.000 Yes, I mean, at the time he was becoming a threat because before with the whole Hari Krishna, you know, peace hippie movement, they left him alone because that wasn't a threat because it was all, I mean, the LSD was brought in by the government in the first place and that was all set up, but when he started to focus on actually, you know, changing something and getting really involved, that's when he became too much of a threat for them to tolerate, so that's why he was taken out.

01:49:58.000 Absolutely.

01:49:58.000 We're going to break and come back and get into more news and calls.

01:50:03.000 So Chris and Dan and everybody, stay there.

01:50:05.000 Paul's going to be with us into the next hour, so will you, hopefully.

01:50:05.000 We're going to get to you.

01:50:09.000 And I want to get into some of this other news.

01:50:11.000 Blair admits weapons of mass destruction may never be found.

01:50:14.000 I thought he'd resign if they didn't find them.

01:50:18.000 Also, report all flyers to be assigned threat ranking.

01:50:22.000 This is the CAPS2 system.

01:50:24.000 You're going to have this to have a job anywhere.

01:50:27.000 U.S.

01:50:27.000 Army College attacks Bush terror policy.

01:50:31.000 More than 500 U.S.

01:50:32.000 soldiers killed in Iraq, says the Pentagon.

01:50:34.000 Vaccine-linked Gulf War syndrome.

01:50:37.000 News of Australia.

01:50:39.000 And a bunch of other news.

01:50:42.000 Again, we haven't even scratched the surface.

01:50:44.000 It's all very important and it's coming up on the other side of this quick break.

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01:54:07.000 George Bush on national television shortly after 9-11.

01:54:13.000 George Bush said the war on terror would last a hundred years.

01:54:16.000 Others have said two, three generations.

01:54:18.000 Here's the BBC.

01:54:21.000 Terror war could last 50 years.

01:54:23.000 And of course the big complex that's built up around it won't let it go away in 50 years.

01:54:27.000 They'll provide more terror.

01:54:29.000 It's like the drug war.

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01:54:33.000 Not just the profits, but the police state, and the prison industry, and the corruption of the police, they get out of it.

01:54:40.000 Well, it's the same thing with the War on Terror.

01:54:42.000 They engage in the terror, they then get the business out of it.

01:54:46.000 The War on Terror could last up to 50 years, a senior UK intelligence officer has warned, speaking at a US government-sponsored conference in Las Vegas, Superintendent Stuart Harrison, offered a rare insight into the intelligence community.

01:55:00.000 We'll get more into that in the next hour.

01:55:02.000 Paul, your comments on this issue?

01:55:05.000 Well yeah, we have Bush saying 100 years, we've got BBC saying 50 years today.

01:55:09.000 But I mean, this is a UK expert saying this, and you just have to ask yourself, who needs the terror?

01:55:16.000 I mean, at the moment we've got The British government trying to push this civil contingencies bill and we've got the ID card on the racks as well.

01:55:27.000 And we've got Rudolph Giuliani heading up, selling this to the states and counties, making tens of millions of dollars a year off the terror.

01:55:35.000 That's his payoff for keeping his mouth shut.

01:55:38.000 And in Britain it's all permissible that we have this endless war on terror because basically this country's been under a state of emergency since September 11 officially.

01:55:49.000 Also, also now, they're saying you've passed the 4 million mark of government surveillance cameras and they're announcing they're going to add even more!

01:55:58.000 Yeah, the 4 million number itself and that was in the Independent yesterday, or today, Big Brother Britain 2004.

01:56:09.000 They're saying 4.1, 4.2 million.

01:56:12.000 There's actually probably that amount of cameras just in London alone because that's where they're taking the figures from.

01:56:19.000 We've had reports before which say 10, 15 million and now they've got programs to put them in areas of natural wilderness to keep out people trying to start forest fires.

01:56:31.000 Yeah, and now here it's, oh, to stop junk dumping.

01:56:34.000 All the woods in Austin are going to have cameras and microphones.

01:56:39.000 Again, this is right out of 1984.

01:56:42.000 Yeah, three years ago the British government announced a £70 million programme, which is about $150 million to put cameras in the trees in every single natural wilderness area.

01:56:55.000 And now it gets worse.

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02:00:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:07.000 Well, our last hour was a great hour of radio.

02:00:11.000 We probably covered 20 different important news items exposing the criminal activities of the global elite.

02:00:17.000 Took a lot of calls.

02:00:18.000 We've got Paul Watson who comes on at least once a week because I respect his great analysis and I agree with what he's saying.

02:00:26.000 We've also got some of the folks that got shot at by Mexican troops coming on the show here in about 30 minutes.

02:00:33.000 We've got a lot of people holding.

02:00:34.000 Let's get about 5 or 6 calls out of the way, then we'll go right back into about 10 other important news reports here while we still have Paul Watson.

02:00:43.000 Let's talk to Chris in Tennessee.

02:00:45.000 Go ahead.

02:00:45.000 You're on the air.

02:00:46.000 Hello Alex.

02:00:47.000 Hello Paul.

02:00:48.000 I wanted to talk about Social Security.

02:00:50.000 Three years ago I broke my back.

02:00:52.000 I had three neurosurgeons all say that I needed another back operation and also another operation in my neck.

02:00:58.000 And these calls that I make to the Social Security office, they must go to India because I went to a hearing and continually get jerked around from Social Security for a disability claim.

02:01:09.000 But three neurosurgeons say that I do need both surgeries and I am disabled.

02:01:15.000 And I'm very upset at the fact that George Bush wants to give Social Security to illegal immigrants and Mexicans, who are us hard-working Americans, who are unable to work, have been jerked around for years, and I know there's tens of thousands of people in the audience right now hearing this.

02:01:30.000 So what I did today, after I heard that the calls were being given to India, I told this person on the telephone that I wanted a direct letter from the Commissioner, her name is Barthart, to say that this call was answered and I want my request

02:01:46.000 requested.

02:01:47.000 And just in this morning's Australian newspaper, there are 670,000 people that are disabled and there's an

02:01:55.000 outsourcing agency that are forcing these people to get jobs.

02:01:58.000 And this agency is going to get $6,000 per person that gives these people a minimum wage job.

02:02:04.000 Well, yeah, that's how the corporate welfare works. 0.99

02:02:06.000 They get all the money and then people who have broken backs don't get any of it.

02:02:10.000 And then if you're a foreigner, you come here and you get a decade of tax exemption, 0.78

02:02:14.000 why don't citizens get that?

02:02:16.000 It's designed to get rid of the middle class, drive down our wages, get all of us on welfare. 0.98

02:02:22.000 Or in the criminal justice system.

02:02:23.000 Paul Watson?

02:02:24.000 Well, it boils down to the fact that it's nothing more than slave labour like the swept shops in India. 1.00

02:02:31.000 It's not just exploiting and bringing down the country in America.

02:02:35.000 It's exploiting via what is slave labour on the wages that they get when this outsourcing takes place.

02:02:44.000 Yes, well if you people are in the same situation as I am, make that phone call and tell me you want a letter from the Commissioner of what the status is on your claim and why you're getting jerked around also.

02:03:03.000 Alright, thanks for the call.

02:03:05.000 Let's talk to Dan in Illinois.

02:03:08.000 Dan, go ahead.

02:03:09.000 How you doing there, Alex?

02:03:10.000 You know, this all proves one thing.

02:03:12.000 You just can't give corporations that type of freedom.

02:03:16.000 I mean, this can't be trusted.

02:03:17.000 I mean, there's no laws against this, but... This is... No, you don't regulate the corporations.

02:03:22.000 What you do is, you keep the government so small, it can't start giving them corporate welfare, and even if they take over the government, the government's not big enough to control our lives.

02:03:33.000 Do you understand that?

02:03:34.000 Well, here's the thing.

02:03:35.000 If the people are not demanding the government to control the corporations, then the corporations will demand that the government control us.

02:03:41.000 That's what's happened.

02:03:42.000 So, the Founding Fathers said, you stop that by having a small government, then they even seize control, or a dictator seizes control, or a corporate oligarchy seizes control of the levers of power.

02:03:54.000 The levers of power are so small, they can't take over your life.

02:03:58.000 So instead, they're expanding the levers of control, because they have taken over.

02:04:02.000 I mean, the fact that they're allowed to just export so many things, I mean, there should be regulation.

02:04:08.000 But see, they already run the government, so when you give them regulation, they're going to use that selectively against you.

02:04:15.000 Of course.

02:04:16.000 One more thing, did you see that the Jewish people, some organizations, they say, anybody but Bush?

02:04:25.000 Well, yeah, there's a lot of diverse groups that don't like Bush.

02:04:28.000 Yeah, I mean, it kind of surprised me, though.

02:04:30.000 70% against.

02:04:33.000 Well, yeah.

02:04:36.000 That's not one monolithic block.

02:04:37.000 No group is.

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02:07:48.000 alex jones on the gcn radio network Thank you.

02:07:55.000 Paul Watson, my guest.

02:07:59.000 Again, I'm Alex Jones.

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02:08:07.000 Paul, we need to talk about the false left-right paradigm, the false political spectrum of left and right, because We were just talking to Dan in Illinois, and we'll go to these other calls.

02:08:18.000 Dan in Illinois was saying, well, hey, you know, these corporations are so corrupt, using the government to control us, we've got to pass regulations to control them.

02:08:29.000 But understand the fallacy of that.

02:08:31.000 You don't have the lobbyists.

02:08:32.000 You don't have the payoff money.

02:08:34.000 You don't have your people controlling the government, staffing the government.

02:08:39.000 So if you try to get the government to pass regulations, they'll go, OK, and they'll pass more regulations for you.

02:08:45.000 The only way to stop These big corrupt corporations that are organized crime syndicates, not free market, is to restrict the size of state, local, federal, international government because those are the mechanisms of control.

02:08:59.000 This should make perfect sense, but I was explaining that to Dan and he still, I don't think, completely got it.

02:09:06.000 Look, that's what the Founding Fathers said.

02:09:09.000 The real political spectrum isn't left and right.

02:09:11.000 You know, the extreme of the left Is police, giant prisons, control, regulation, socialism, communism.

02:09:18.000 The extreme of the right in the false spectrum is fascism.

02:09:21.000 Police in black uniforms, huge prisons, command and control, regulation, a small group running everything.

02:09:27.000 It's the same system with different window dressing.

02:09:31.000 And we weren't taught that spectrum, that false spectrum, until a hundred years ago.

02:09:36.000 And now the Democrats think, oh yeah, the evil corporations, let's grow the size of government to regulate them.

02:09:42.000 you know falling into that traffic conservative say all no government bad

02:09:47.000 corporations good will the corporations are bad because they're part of the

02:09:50.000 government the big ones are running the government uh... can you boil that down for folks paul

02:09:55.000 well what people basically need to understand that we advocate

02:10:00.000 uh... limited government obviously and free market capitalism as it was

02:10:04.000 supposedly intended by the founding fathers Not what we've got today, which is monopoly capitalism.

02:10:11.000 And yet, most of the left wing don't realise that monopoly capitalism is basically the merging of corporations and government.

02:10:18.000 So then, They see capitalism itself as the enemy, so they run to socialism and big government as the answer.

02:10:26.000 When people call for this sort of thing, I mean you can take this back 100, 150 years with the Rockefeller Standard Oil, when people finally found out that it was a monopoly capitalist system that was being set up, Rockefeller just devolved all the standard oil, the

02:10:44.000 National Standard Oil Corporation into regional sub-sectors, but yet it was still owned by

02:10:49.000 the same people.

02:10:50.000 So we have to understand that monopoly capitalism is the merging of corporations and government

02:10:55.000 and that free market capitalism with an emphasis on small business ownership and limited government

02:11:02.000 is the fairest, not perfect, no system ever is, but it's the fairest system that we should

02:11:08.000 it'll back towards that it was exactly that I mean, the Meaning Well Liberals, I don't mean they're cynical controllers, they think, oh, you stop the evil corporations with big government, when the corporations are lobbying for big government.

02:11:25.000 Who's up next, Stephanie? 0.57

02:11:29.000 Okay, Richard in Kentucky, you're on the air, then we'll go to Stacy and others.

02:11:33.000 Yeah, Alex, good to hear your show.

02:11:38.000 I remember back last March when the shock and awe campaign started in Iraq.

02:11:46.000 I heard a lot of people say, let's bomb them into the Stone Age.

02:11:49.000 Well, Stone Age really sticks in my mind if you look at what's going on in California.

02:11:54.000 There's people being attacked by mountain lions.

02:11:57.000 And all they have to fight with is rocks.

02:11:59.000 For you guys to think about that.

02:12:01.000 Yeah, they eat children and women, smaller folks, every year. 0.96

02:12:06.000 Yeah, and that ain't the first time.

02:12:09.000 And the sicko wildlife people that are being funded by the government to devalue human life and to get us into compact cities, they say you shouldn't be encroaching on their territory! 0.96

02:12:19.000 Yeah, really.

02:12:20.000 Pumas, mountain lions, rock cats, whatever you want to call them, are not even threatened, folks.

02:12:27.000 I have seen two or three of them, no, four of them, in East Texas deer hunting.

02:12:33.000 If I see one in my yard, I'll have a 12-gauge loaded up before you say George W. Bush.

02:12:41.000 So, you know, here we are not supposed to have any guns, and guns are evil and all this and that, but, you know, what are you supposed to do, throw rocks at it?

02:12:49.000 They've even had black bears killing people now.

02:12:52.000 They didn't used to do that, but now they're not afraid of us.

02:12:55.000 Sure, yeah.

02:12:56.000 They associate people with food.

02:12:58.000 You're a goner.

02:12:59.000 And that always happens in these eastern states or these western states where they've taken and basically domesticated everybody.

02:13:08.000 Puma doesn't show its face around here.

02:13:11.000 They sneak around.

02:13:14.000 And believe me, the times I saw them, it was just for a second or two, and by the time I'd get my rifle up, they'd be gone.

02:13:20.000 Yeah, I hear that.

02:13:23.000 One time I was walking down a path in the middle of the day, hog hunting, one in spring, wasn't even deer season, a huge red wolf jumped out right in front of me.

02:13:32.000 Yeah.

02:13:33.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:13:34.000 They've got to protect them too, you know.

02:13:36.000 Yeah.

02:13:37.000 Alright, thanks for the call.

02:13:39.000 Paul, you've got it over in Europe now, where you have to play with your pig every day, give it a new toy.

02:13:45.000 In these pens, what is all that about?

02:13:50.000 Well, obviously it's about, I mean, the emphasis on animal rights is going on, coming straight out of the government and the big funders of this environmental movement, at the same time where we're losing all our human rights.

02:14:02.000 I mean, the biggest reaction I get from the left-wingers out there that do listen to us is when I post a story which debunks the global warming situation.

02:14:12.000 I mean, we had a story out on the weekend that it's the coldest in the North East for like 20 years or so.

02:14:19.000 And then we have stories which say, oh, it's the hottest day in 20 years, therefore proving global warming.

02:14:25.000 Well, no.

02:14:26.000 That only proves that it was actually hotter 20 years ago.

02:14:29.000 So again, there is some global warming, but it's due to natural sun cycles.

02:14:33.000 And again, when I try to emphasize this, that it's just a big left-wing, UN-funded, global, neo-feudalist propaganda.

02:14:43.000 Yeah, it's the excuse to start a world energy tax.

02:14:47.000 And the fact is, and this is consistent throughout all the studies, that at least 46% of the entire Earth's surface has never been encroached on by any humans.

02:14:58.000 And so, the assumption that we're, you know, spreading the cities everywhere and tearing down the trees, it's a complete fallacy.

02:15:05.000 Well, there are more trees now in the U.S.

02:15:08.000 than there were 100 years ago.

02:15:09.000 Yeah, and 46% of the Earth is completely untouched, so again, it's a lie.

02:15:15.000 I want to get back briefly because we got cut short and we'll get more calls.

02:15:18.000 This BBC article, terror war could last 50 years and bigger than imagined.

02:15:25.000 They just say it's never going to end, there's going to be lots of new terrorists attacking us and the answer is just give all our rights up.

02:15:31.000 Well that makes sense.

02:15:33.000 If the war on drugs gets bigger and there's more drugs on the streets, well now the war on terror gets bigger, there's going to be more terror.

02:15:40.000 I mean they don't want their business to go away, do they?

02:15:43.000 Well, the shift that you will probably see is that they will move into the situation in Israel where they have, you know, a suicide bombing every couple of weeks and so that gives them the necessary permanent state of emergency which is what the UK government are calling for and calling to Yeah, let's go over that.

02:16:04.000 This came out about three months ago.

02:16:06.000 Now they're still trying to pass it.

02:16:08.000 The Queen has been out there promoting it.

02:16:10.000 And there's a new headline today.

02:16:12.000 Amendment to CCB Bill would detain UK citizens without trial.

02:16:15.000 came out about three months ago now they're still trying to pass it the

02:16:18.000 queen has been uh... out there 1.00

02:16:21.000 uh... promoting it and there's a new uh... headline today amendment to ccd

02:16:26.000 bill would detain u k so this is without trial what to talk

02:16:30.000 about that well again it's just a case of them uh... announcing

02:16:34.000 something after the fact that they've already been doing it

02:16:36.000 I mean, there are already British citizens imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay, and so it's basically a recipe for dictatorship, and the British government badly needs a terrorist attack not only to push through this, along with the Well, there's also been discussions of not allowing a referendum in England on the Euro.

02:16:54.000 flagging approval ratings so he can then call the referendum on the introduction

02:16:59.000 of the euro and have any possibility of winning it. So it's a big rallying call

02:17:04.000 as happened with Bush immediately after 9-11. Well there's also been discussions of not

02:17:09.000 allowing a referendum in England on the euro. They didn't allow referendums in the other

02:17:14.000 member states. Well they're not, they say they're not allowing it because obviously

02:17:19.000 at the moment they can't win it but you look at the referendums in the other countries like

02:17:23.000 Ireland for example, if there actually is a referendum and the population votes no,

02:17:29.000 all that they do is have another referendum two years later when they...

02:17:32.000 They wouldn't allow a referendum in France or Germany where the majority of the folks were against it.

02:17:37.000 I mean, if our government wants to do what we want, then why don't they give us a choice?

02:17:41.000 The majority of Americans are against the free trade area of the Americas, which is the same thing for this hemisphere.

02:17:47.000 But you notice they're not going to let us vote on that either.

02:17:49.000 Yes, even if you take their false paradigm of democracy, which is what the majority want, they're not even following that level of politics.

02:17:58.000 It's not even a democracy.

02:18:00.000 The Republic went and now it's not even a democracy either.

02:18:04.000 Also, there's a big move to get rid of juries in your country.

02:18:08.000 They're talking about that here.

02:18:09.000 There's been some new developments there.

02:18:11.000 The reason we talk about England so much, folks, is in some cases they're a few years ahead of us and we're ahead of them.

02:18:16.000 It's the exact same managers and model for New Zealand, Australia, Canada, U.S.

02:18:22.000 and England.

02:18:22.000 We're all under the same system.

02:18:25.000 And the British government is attempting to do all this on the basis that our constitution isn't written.

02:18:32.000 It evolves from custom law and the Magna Carta.

02:18:35.000 So, the Blair government has been enacting constitutional reform via press release, basically.

02:18:42.000 And they, as you mentioned with the juries, they came out and said that they want to also abolish the Lords.

02:18:47.000 And they only want to abolish the Lords because it mainly consists of sort of traditional right-wing Yeah, they don't want to give up the sovereignty of England.

02:18:58.000 Yeah, and the Lords are obviously pro-jury rights, and so the government needs to abolish the Lords before it can abolish the jury system. 0.73

02:19:09.000 Unbelievable.

02:19:10.000 We'll break and come back and take some more calls and get into three or four other important little tidbits here, like report all flyers to be assigned threat ranking.

02:19:20.000 And this is going to be for your jobs, for your driver's license.

02:19:23.000 It starts there, but it's admittedly, I've seen Ridge say it, for everything.

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02:19:28.000 What level of rights you have.

02:19:31.000 Talk about discrimination.

02:19:33.000 Army College attacks Bush terror policy.

02:19:33.000 Also, U.S.

02:19:36.000 We'll talk about that as well.

02:19:38.000 Then we'll go to the border and discuss the invasion.

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02:24:07.000 We're about to go to Stacy in Delaware and West in Colorado and others, but Paul Watson, I kind of cut you short there at the end of the last hour when you were describing Order Out of Chaos, the book I published, the book you wrote.

02:24:19.000 It's such an amazing book.

02:24:21.000 People really need to have this book, and for those that just joined us, Describe what's in Order Out of Chaos and why folks should get it.

02:24:30.000 Well, I mean, why people should get it?

02:24:32.000 I mean, personally, I've had two separate instances where I've given the book to people who've been in the military 20 years and initially disagreed with everything I said.

02:24:42.000 They read the book and then apologized to me.

02:24:45.000 And then now they're actually getting involved themselves.

02:24:49.000 So I've found that it is a vital Keystone to waking people up to what's going on.

02:24:55.000 Well, Paul, people ask me, you know.

02:24:57.000 How do 90% of those that see your videos wake up?

02:25:01.000 Because we don't engage in conspiracy theories.

02:25:03.000 The truth is out there.

02:25:05.000 The globalists have been caught doing everything they do.

02:25:07.000 It's such a big conspiracy that, yes, they get caught.

02:25:11.000 They leave tracks.

02:25:12.000 It's public.

02:25:13.000 This program is public.

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02:25:19.000 We have a chance.

02:25:21.000 And, yes, these are some of the best tools we've got, Paul.

02:25:24.000 Well, I mean, people just don't understand the pace of the evidence of which comes out every single day.

02:25:30.000 We have several smoking guns on different issues which either confirm what we said in the past or, you know, get ahead of us and actually confirm new things that we didn't know.

02:25:40.000 And so people don't understand the pace of the cover-up because, I mean, they've lied so many times.

02:25:46.000 It's like the old saying, If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember everything.

02:25:50.000 They've lied so many times that they're slipping up and not being able to cover up a lot of things because there are so many bases to cover that it's just not possible for some of the truth to get out.

02:26:02.000 It's amazing. 0.93

02:26:02.000 I mean, they're just absolute criminals on fire, doing every evil thing you can imagine, running around, looting all of our countries. 0.93

02:26:12.000 I mean, they really have reached the looting phase. 0.97

02:26:14.000 They're just going wild.

02:26:17.000 You'd think they'd be good at lying after doing it so often, but we got the reverse of that.

02:26:23.000 We had the Bremer thing where he was in a public interview dismissing evidence that they'd found weapons of mass destruction labs in Iraq, and then blushing and stuttering when the interviewer told him that Tony Blair was saying it.

02:26:37.000 So these people have lied so often that it's becoming difficult to layer each lie on top of the next and they're becoming forgetful and making all these errors which we're able to pick up on.

02:26:47.000 Absolutely.

02:26:48.000 So, order out of chaos in just a minute nutshell because then I'm going to Stacey.

02:26:53.000 In a minute nutshell, what do folks get when they, what will they learn in this book?

02:26:58.000 Well, I'll start by giving a brief overview of this Hegelian dialectic, because obviously a lot of that's been covered in the past.

02:27:05.000 I tried to stick to issues which have not received that much attention in previous books and videos, like the British intelligence MI5 bombings, which only came out in dribs and drabs, so I brought them all together and did a chapter on that, and then we've got the uh... bombing of north korea the arming of iraq and

02:27:23.000 help and the chaos mongers all men invade these countries 1.00

02:27:27.000 three chapters on nine eleven which basically i mean that that that's the spine of the

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02:27:34.000 and then then the whole left right thing that we were talking about

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02:27:51.000 Stacy in Delaware, thanks for holding her on the air.

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02:27:58.000 present one dot com uh... stacy in delaware thanks for holding her on the air

02:28:03.000 i like them i just wanted to comment about the foreigners that come in

02:28:07.000 and they're able to start businesses and then they have a

02:28:10.000 tax-free issues Actually, my husband and I were in a Dunkin Donuts and the guy that owned it was Indian. 0.95

02:28:19.000 My husband got to talking to him and he was actually very forthright about it.

02:28:24.000 They come here, they start a business and then once their time is up they go back to their country and another member from their family comes here and starts, you know, Yeah, number one, they get the 7 to 10 year exemption depending on which program they decide to take.

02:28:38.000 And then, I was about to add that earlier, good point, I've talked to them, then they sell it to a family member, they come and get 10 more years of tax exemption.

02:28:47.000 That's why folks, that's discrimination against citizens!

02:28:52.000 Why would they do something like that?

02:28:54.000 It is such a sterling example of how much they hate the American people.

02:29:03.000 So we're paying for them to come here to make money to send it home.

02:29:07.000 It's not even spent here.

02:29:08.000 They've set up an economic climate where it's impossible, regardless of what color you are, to be an American citizen and stay in the middle class.

02:29:16.000 They also use the 40 plus percent profit they get above anybody else to leapfrog it into other businesses to set up monopolies.

02:29:25.000 Tell you what, Paul Watson, I've got other guests coming up, but I wanted to hold you over one more second to talk about one or two other issues, so stay there.

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02:32:03.000 Isn't it wrong even if I could discharge the loan?

02:32:05.000 Doris, I felt the same way until I took the time to learn the truth about money and banking.

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02:32:31.000 Go to www.eliminatemortgages.com slash liberty.

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02:32:38.000 It's www.eliminatemortgages.com slash liberty.

02:32:45.000 Terrorists!

02:32:49.000 Waging war on corruption.

02:32:52.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:32:57.000 I should have told Stacy and Delaware in a hole.

02:32:59.000 I wanted to hear more of the story.

02:33:01.000 How they go into the Dunkin Donuts and talk to the man from India.

02:33:05.000 He brags, yeah, I don't have to pay taxes for 10 years and I just go back to my country and have another family member come take over the business and they don't pay taxes for 10 years.

02:33:13.000 And again, the average person, this has been going on for decades, doesn't even know about this because 60 Minutes isn't going to tell you.

02:33:20.000 Dan Rather isn't going to tell you.

02:33:21.000 It's just a quiet little secret.

02:33:23.000 Why would they do that and why would a citizen not get that?

02:33:27.000 It's designed to bring the third world here. 1.00

02:33:30.000 It's designed to displace any existing middle-class structure.

02:33:36.000 And look at it!

02:33:38.000 Foreigners, whether they're Polish, or Russian, or German, the majority is Indians, because they're really good at it, own, and here in Austin, I'd say they own about, let's be conservative, 90% of the gas stations, 95%, I'd have to say 98%, I've never seen a motel in Austin not owned by Indians.

02:33:59.000 But again, no one ever asked why that is.

02:34:02.000 No one ever wondered why that was. 0.99

02:34:04.000 Because they're not stupid. 0.99

02:34:05.000 I don't blame them. 1.00

02:34:06.000 They don't have to pay taxes.

02:34:08.000 They get to have a little bit lower rate.

02:34:10.000 They get to have more money for investment.

02:34:13.000 They get to run their competition out of business.

02:34:15.000 I've been on road trips across the country.

02:34:17.000 I've never seen a hotel, a motel, that's not a big chain, and even the big chains, again, are individually franchised owned.

02:34:27.000 I've never seen I've never seen a motel that wasn't owned by folks from a foreign country.

02:34:36.000 Most of the time it's India. 1.00

02:34:38.000 And how did that happen?

02:34:39.000 Overnight.

02:34:41.000 Again, this is something we never discuss and it is massive discrimination against citizens.

02:34:47.000 Paul Watson, final comments on this and then one other article and then we're going to go to Jack Foote.

02:34:53.000 Well, I mean, the key word is invasion.

02:34:55.000 The key word is not race, because if it was Chinese, Russians, whatever, it doesn't matter.

02:35:00.000 The key word is invasion because when you boil it down, it's no different than going into Iraq and taking over their economy. 0.97

02:35:08.000 It's the same process, and it boils down to an invasion of a country, and that's exactly what it is. 0.87

02:35:14.000 And they have set up a climate Where they give more welfare, more funding, more everything to illegals and legals of any type, while citizens are put under more and more pressure, folks.

02:35:26.000 So we need to make this an issue.

02:35:28.000 We need to point this out.

02:35:30.000 Two final articles, then we're going to go to Jack Foote.

02:35:32.000 I'm going to let you go, and I appreciate you coming on, Paul.

02:35:34.000 Then we'll go to Wes and Ron and others with our next guest.

02:35:39.000 Justices refused a review case on security and 9-11 detentions.

02:35:43.000 The Supreme Court refused money to consider whether the government properly withheld names and other details about hundreds of foreigners detained in the weeks and months after the September 11th attacks.

02:35:52.000 The High Court turned down a request to review the secrecy surrounding detainees.

02:35:56.000 Nearly all Arabs or Muslims were picked up in the United States following the attacks of the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

02:36:03.000 And the Washington Study Center, critical of Bush administration response to 9-11, sued to learn the names and other basic information.

02:36:11.000 But the Supreme Court says, no, we're not going to let that come out, Paul.

02:36:16.000 Well, yeah, it's the same thing going on in Britain with the detainees without trial.

02:36:21.000 And I mean, even though in this country most of them get released anyway, it's about creating this false paradigm that there are terrorists running around everyone's backyard.

02:36:30.000 And I mean, they will try and shut these things up.

02:36:33.000 Came out in a Toronto store that they tried to buy off the 9-11 victims to sign legal forms where they wouldn't ask the government about prior knowledge or anything related to that.

02:36:44.000 Yeah, the headline was, victims refuse bribe.

02:36:47.000 Yeah, that's what it was.

02:36:48.000 It was a government bribe not to file lawsuits on the fact that the government carried out the attack.

02:36:53.000 Alright, here's another one out of NBC5.

02:36:56.000 Report, all flyers to be assigned threat ranking.

02:37:01.000 Volunteering personal information would shorten the security wait.

02:37:06.000 They admit, this is the CAPS 2 system, you've got bad credit, you're going to get more of a search and may not be able to fly.

02:37:13.000 And I've seen Ridge about a year and a half ago on C-SPAN say, to have a job, you're going to have to have an OK security rating on your driver's license, which is really the national ID card, Paul.

02:37:24.000 Yeah, and it's all being centralised into the national ID card.

02:37:27.000 And I can tell people through personal experience that even if you've been involved in a civil routine court case, not criminal, or even if you've got an unpaid parking ticket, or I mean they've even had Absolutely, but the borders are going to be wide open and we're going to accept any fake matricula card, you name it.

02:37:47.000 It's a fraud.

02:37:48.000 all this within the airport so that they can then shift it onto the streets.

02:37:52.000 It's all a giant theater beta test basically.

02:37:55.000 Absolutely, but the borders are going to be wide open and we're going to accept any fake

02:37:59.000 matricula card, you name it.

02:38:01.000 It's a fraud.

02:38:02.000 Paul Watson, thanks for spending an hour with us and look forward to having you back on

02:38:05.000 next Monday.

02:38:06.000 Okay, thanks Alex.

02:38:07.000 I bless my friend.

02:38:09.000 Let's shift gears now to Jack Foote.

02:38:11.000 He's the founder of Ranch Rescue.

02:38:13.000 Jack, good to have you on the show.

02:38:15.000 Good to be back, sir.

02:38:16.000 Thank you for the opportunity.

02:38:17.000 You bet.

02:38:17.000 We'll have you on in the future for a little bit longer.

02:38:20.000 For those who don't know what Ranch Rescue is, describe the organization, what you do, and we'll get into the Mexican troops firing at your members.

02:38:27.000 Briefly, Ranch Rescue is a private property rights advocate.

02:38:31.000 And everything we're going to talk about today is available to your listeners on our website at www.ranchrescue.com.

02:38:40.000 We are conducting Phase 2 of Operation Thunderbird here on Private Ranch in Cochise County, Arizona.

02:38:48.000 Your listeners may recall that Cochise County, Arizona is the number one illegal border crossing point into the United States and has been for the past five years.

02:38:58.000 On December 20th, our volunteers were conducting a reconnaissance patrol in the southern part of our host's land, which is right up next to the border road.

02:39:07.000 Mexican troops, armed and in uniforms, OD Green uniforms and OD Green Kevlar helmets, crossed onto our host's property and were challenged, verbally, by our reconnaissance team.

02:39:21.000 The Mexican troops, there was about ten of them we estimate, we know for certain there were two in the lead with AK-47 and RPK machine guns.

02:39:30.000 The rest of them retreated back into the wood line, and after they got themselves into a concealed position, they fired on our volunteers.

02:39:36.000 Unfortunately, none of our volunteers were hit, and our volunteers, to their credit, exercised remarkable restraint.

02:39:43.000 And not firing back and giving away their position.

02:39:45.000 Now, that did make the Associated Press a news match, but the average person hasn't heard about it.

02:39:50.000 They cover it up when federal officers are being routinely killed, Border Patrol, FBI, Forestry Service people.

02:39:57.000 They've shot up dozens and dozens of vehicles.

02:39:59.000 Tom Tancredo, the Congressman, says there's been over 190 episodes of this in the last two years that he knows of.

02:40:06.000 He didn't even know about U.S.

02:40:07.000 citizens three miles over the border being kidnapped.

02:40:10.000 In December by Mexican troops for absolutely no reason.

02:40:14.000 They're bringing the drugs across.

02:40:17.000 What did the police and others do once you reported this?

02:40:21.000 The silence is deafening every time you try to report something like this.

02:40:26.000 So we gave up trying to report these incidents a long time ago.

02:40:30.000 We don't dial 9-1-1 out here because quite frankly it's a waste of time.

02:40:34.000 We are next door neighbors to the largest Border Patrol Station in the nation.

02:40:39.000 I am standing outside looking at it right now.

02:40:42.000 It's a multi-million dollar facility.

02:40:42.000 It is enormous.

02:40:44.000 It is so huge it has its own water tower.

02:40:47.000 This is a small city.

02:40:49.000 Our property is directly adjacent to their back fence.

02:40:53.000 I am literally a 30 second drive away from the largest Border Patrol Station in the nation.

02:40:57.000 If they cannot keep the military troops from a foreign nation off of our property, then the only other choice is either putting troops on the border ourselves, Or we do it ourselves with volunteers here on this property. 0.80

02:41:09.000 That's what you do.

02:41:09.000 You go to private property that have giant footpaths and garbage everywhere where the illegals pour across.

02:41:15.000 They rob. 1.00

02:41:15.000 They rape. 1.00

02:41:16.000 They kill people. 1.00

02:41:17.000 They break equipment.

02:41:18.000 They kill farm animals.

02:41:20.000 These are what our national government now refers to as future foreign guest workers.

02:41:26.000 And they are coming across just in the last 72 hours.

02:41:29.000 I'm looking at one of our guys in the observation tower right now.

02:41:32.000 Just in the last 72 hours, we have seen A dramatic increase in the numbers of criminal border crossers coming across our property.

02:41:41.000 Well, that's because they've been, and the Mexican papers say, hey, we're taking over.

02:41:45.000 The New York Times on Friday said this land is our land and said, hey, don't complain, this is really Mexico.

02:41:52.000 Even our own government says yes.

02:41:55.000 It's amazing.

02:41:56.000 Now, I know you've done a lot of radio interviews.

02:42:00.000 I heard one of your listeners earlier ask about my interview on National Alliance.

02:42:04.000 Yes, I was about to bring that up.

02:42:06.000 For the record, I am very aware, and I was aware before I did this interview, of the controversy that would happen from me being on this particular source.

02:42:15.000 However, I was also interviewed by Hal Turner a couple of years ago, and on that same day, I was interviewed by CNN.

02:42:21.000 I know more subscribe to the Hal Turner's viewpoint than I do the Ted Turner's viewpoint.

02:42:27.000 These people are offering me an opportunity to get the message out, and I took it.

02:42:32.000 Sir, you must have gotten a call then because it's not that big of a deal.

02:42:37.000 I mean, I said I'll be interviewed by the German press, the Chinese press, you know, the right-wing press, you know, whoever, to get the word out about being shot at by Mexican troops.

02:42:46.000 Everybody needs to know.

02:42:47.000 I mean, it's like Paul Revere Probably didn't agree with some of the people.

02:42:51.000 He was riding by their house, yelling to arms to arms, the Redcoats are coming.

02:42:55.000 So I see what you were saying.

02:42:56.000 I just want to make it clear that later the media, you need to make clear on record, can take that and go, oh look, he's involved with that.

02:43:03.000 Right.

02:43:03.000 That's exactly what they love to do, is try to, you know, they've tried to mix the issue of sovereignty in with that.

02:43:11.000 Well, what we're seeing is that every time they throw up this charge of racism, it is thrown up for the express purpose.

02:43:18.000 Of diverting public attention from the real issue of crime on private property.

02:43:22.000 Well, that's exactly what's happening. 0.96

02:43:24.000 I mean, Mexico, the government is racist. 0.97

02:43:28.000 Public newspapers saying, throw the gringos out. 1.00

02:43:31.000 But that's supposed to be cute, and it's not acceptable.

02:43:34.000 I've had a standing offer for the past three and a half years to publicly debate anyone about what we do within Rats Rescue, what we stand for, and who we are.

02:43:42.000 One of our chief detractors, Isabel Garcia, who's a local personality here in southeastern Arizona, has gone out of her way to make an accusation against us as being racist. 0.95

02:43:53.000 She showed up here at our ranch, at our front gate with a group of protesters on the same day that we already had a video crew from the Univision television network, the Spanish language network.

02:44:05.000 This television crew went to the front gate and told Ms. 0.96

02:44:07.000 Garcia, Jackfoot will debate you at the front gate on camera right now.

02:44:12.000 And she said no and she left. 0.64

02:44:15.000 They run away and they make Wild accusations, but they cannot back those up with valid arguments.

02:44:23.000 Well, I know that's the case, and I know that we're always talking about Mexico, because that's the majority, but it's just as bad from India or Russia or anywhere else. 1.00

02:44:31.000 We're losing this country, we're losing our wages, and we cannot assimilate this mass this fast, and now Bush is going to legalize all of them. 1.00

02:44:40.000 So, what are your guys going to do the next time Mexican troops shoot at them?

02:44:43.000 I know if Mexican troops were shooting at me, I know what I'd do. 0.99

02:44:46.000 Well, like I said, I commend the individual patrol team leader for his discretion and his restraint, and it was his call to make.

02:44:53.000 As the person in charge at the moment on the ground.

02:44:57.000 However, this came about because we had a standing policy of challenging them and warning them with the intent of placing them under citizen's arrest and then turning them over to law enforcement.

02:45:07.000 Since we now know that if we challenge them, we'll be shot at, we're not going to give them any warning next time.

02:45:12.000 The next time that armed, uniformed, foreign, military terrorist troops are encountered on this property, We will open fire on them.

02:45:20.000 We will not warn them.

02:45:21.000 Now folks, I think that's a radical statement that shows how neutered we've all become.

02:45:26.000 It's private property.

02:45:28.000 It's being invaded by foreign troops.

02:45:30.000 If anybody was on your property, especially armed, you have every right to defend yourself with lethal force.

02:45:37.000 Now that's just the law in Texas.

02:45:38.000 It's the law in Arizona.

02:45:39.000 It's been a law nationwide.

02:45:41.000 Now they're trying to get rid of it in many of the controlled eastern and west coast states.

02:45:45.000 Under state law, we may not use or threaten to use deadly force unless it's first used or threatened to be used against us.

02:45:51.000 On the case of civilian criminals, that means they have to point a weapon at you.

02:45:54.000 Now, did you make the police come out and do a report?

02:45:57.000 Not for this particular incident.

02:45:58.000 There was no point to it.

02:45:59.000 We didn't have any physical evidence, except some very scared looks on the faces of our volunteers who had been fired upon.

02:46:05.000 That would have been a minute late to time.

02:46:08.000 But it's not like this isn't happening.

02:46:09.000 We have them running over fences, chasing Border Patrol seven miles, and shooting their vehicles full of holes, and killing people. 0.54

02:46:18.000 Right.

02:46:18.000 We'll be happy to call Sheriff of the County and bring him out here just as soon as we've got something physical to show him.

02:46:24.000 Now we either will capture these criminal terrorists vertically or we will capture them horizontally.

02:46:30.000 Why do you think they shot at you?

02:46:33.000 Because they can.

02:46:34.000 Because they know that if they, even if they hit one of us, if they commit a murder inside the United States, They can run back into Mexico, and Mexico will never extradite them to face either the life or the death penalty.

02:46:45.000 And then it makes it, also there's a government, and this has been out there, I've talked to one of the top Border Patrol people here in Texas, he's one of my dad's patients.

02:46:53.000 Now he said, oh yeah, there's a $200,000 bounty on Border Patrol.

02:46:58.000 But Bush is down there, Bush is down there in a love fest with Vicente Fox right now.

02:47:03.000 Our volunteers are better equipped and better deployed than the Border Patrol itself.

02:47:09.000 We have highly different rules of engagement when it comes to armed, uniformed, foreign military troops.

02:47:15.000 Rules of engagement are much different than those for civilians.

02:47:18.000 We know some of the local folks have detained tens of thousands on their ranches, and we know that there's Simcox Group, we know that there's American Patrol out there documenting all this.

02:47:31.000 How many people that are trespassing on one ranch have you guys put under citizen's arrest and called the police?

02:47:37.000 Most of the folks who come across here are just your simple illegal border crossers.

02:47:42.000 They don't represent a threat because they're not armed.

02:47:44.000 The last group that we encountered was a group of five.

02:47:47.000 We simply gave them food and water and evicted them from the property and told them not to come back.

02:47:51.000 Yeah, and now you've got Morris Dees suing you, right?

02:47:54.000 Well, Morris Dees is suing me and the current owner of the ranch that I'm sitting on, Casey Nethercott.

02:47:59.000 But those stem from an incident that occurred in Texas, not here in Arizona.

02:48:03.000 The owner, by the way, is still sitting in And by the way, there was a French national reporter there, you guys, and this was on tape, the reporter caught it, took photos, this was in the French News, gave them blankets, helped them, said go on down the road, don't trespass again, and it looks like that was a staged deal, suddenly the police show up, this was what, four or five months ago, and this guy's still in jail?

02:48:32.000 Yeah, well, he was arrested a second time from It's kind of complicated, not to bore your listeners, but basically he was free on bail.

02:48:40.000 He was here in Arizona at his new place.

02:48:42.000 And false statement was filed by the prosecutor in Jim Hogg County, Texas.

02:48:49.000 Rudy Gutierrez perjured himself by filing false charges with the FBI.

02:48:52.000 He wrote them a letter saying Casey did this, that, and the other thing.

02:48:55.000 The feds then took that information and placed Casey under arrest here in Arizona.

02:49:00.000 And when they went back to Mr. Gutierrez and asked him to testify, he refused to.

02:49:05.000 Subsequently, all federal charges against Mr. Netticott had to be dropped, because the federal authorities realized that Mr. Gutierrez, the assistant district attorney... By the way, this is the same South Texas where four towns fly the Mexican flag, not the American flag, and do not allow English in-court proceedings.

02:49:23.000 Right.

02:49:23.000 Now, this is, in the particular case of Jim Hogg County, in the town of Hebronville, this is a county government that is really nothing more than an organized criminal enterprise Disguised itself and masquerading as a legitimate government.

02:49:38.000 They earned the name, Texas Taliban. 0.91

02:49:41.000 Alright, Jack Foote, give folks the website.

02:49:44.000 I'm going to get you back on in the future for a full hour so we can take calls.

02:49:47.000 What's the website again?

02:49:49.000 The website address is www.ranchrescue.com.

02:49:52.000 The phone number here at Camp Thunderbird is 520-364-3966.

02:49:59.000 And we are asking folks to come as volunteers and to send us donations.

02:50:04.000 Alright, well thanks a lot for coming on the show, Jack.

02:50:06.000 Thank you again, sir.

02:50:07.000 Much appreciated.

02:50:08.000 You bet.

02:50:08.000 And I've checked out the whole story they're telling.

02:50:11.000 I mean, there was a national French reporter from AFP.

02:50:15.000 That's their Associated Press there.

02:50:18.000 And they go out, stop a couple people, they're cold, they give them some blankets, say, don't come back on this property.

02:50:28.000 And luckily there was a French reporter there.

02:50:29.000 This was all caught on tape and with photos.

02:50:34.000 And good thing the French reporter was still there when the police came and arrested him for assaulting him.

02:50:38.000 I mean, it's nuts.

02:50:40.000 But Mexican troops kill federal officers? 0.77

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02:53:52.000 Wes in Colorado, you're on the air.

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02:54:25.000 Well that works really well in areas where we have AM and FM affiliates.

02:54:29.000 And certainly folks can always listen over the internet or shortwave.

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02:54:35.000 And this show is only one small part of the solution against this tyranny.

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02:54:40.000 Another thing is community fairs when they have those.

02:54:43.000 You can always rent a table and have download pages that people can be there and handouts also to people for free.

02:54:51.000 Another thing I wanted to mention was you mentioned about Bush.

02:54:55.000 Recently, I saw WWE had a wrestling I think it's a biblical reference.

02:54:59.000 I believe it is too.

02:54:59.000 Just a little odd.

02:55:00.000 John 316?

02:55:02.000 In the background, they're panning through the crowd of soldiers watching the wrestling.

02:55:06.000 And there's two or three guys holding up a sign that says, Bush 316.

02:55:14.000 Okay, and what does that mean?

02:55:16.000 I think it's a biblical reference.

02:55:18.000 I believe it is too.

02:55:20.000 Just a little odd.

02:55:22.000 John 316?

02:55:24.000 But it was actually Bush 316.

02:55:28.000 Or is it Romans?

02:55:30.000 It's John 3.16.

02:55:34.000 And what does John 3.16 say?

02:55:36.000 I think it's the way to know the Father is through the Son.

02:55:43.000 Something like that.

02:55:44.000 Oh, yeah.

02:55:46.000 Alright, thanks for the call, Wes.

02:55:48.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:55:49.000 That was it.

02:55:50.000 Okay, thank you, sir.

02:55:51.000 Ron in Oklahoma.

02:55:53.000 Ron, go ahead.

02:55:54.000 God's beloved world that He gave His only begotten Son.

02:55:57.000 I think that's done, 316.

02:55:59.000 But anyway, Alex, what I was going to say first off is people need to get your tapes, your 9-11 prerequisites.

02:56:08.000 Let people know what happened at Oklahoma City, 9-11, some of the others.

02:56:12.000 Get them copied and get them out.

02:56:14.000 Paul Watson's book, Order Out of Chaos, and Tex Marr's book, Circle of Entry, are the icing on the cake.

02:56:20.000 They really give you an inside understanding and knowledge of what's going on so you can talk to other people and explain it.

02:56:27.000 But anyway, what I called about was, I see this Moon Mars trip as a diversion and as a payoff to the Lockheed Martin and other defense contractors.

02:56:38.000 A diversion to keep the people from thinking about what's going on now, the immigration, the bad economy, Iraq, and whatever. 0.96

02:56:50.000 I don't see anything of substance to it.

02:56:52.000 Yeah, they cover up one big story with another.

02:56:54.000 They announce the Saddam thing, and he signs the Patriot Act, too. 0.80

02:56:57.000 He goes to Mexico to announce the end of the border, and then he's going to come back the next day and announce a moon-Mars mission, which will get all the attention.

02:57:05.000 Yeah, that's what they're doing.

02:57:07.000 Well, here in Oklahoma City, in George Bush's America, we've had a record year for bankruptcies.

02:57:12.000 We even had a prominent businessman robbing a bank last week.

02:57:16.000 He couldn't afford to make his payroll and pay his employees.

02:57:19.000 Older people robbing banks apparently to pay for their prescription bills. 0.99

02:57:23.000 And now the FDA says they're going to block importation of Canadian drugs.

02:57:30.000 More of Bush's payoffs to the pharmaceutical companies.

02:57:34.000 I hear you, Ron.

02:57:34.000 I gotta let you go.

02:57:35.000 Great points.

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